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Enter Jeb and Hil

T he Floridian clod seeking to don the mantle of Millard Fillmore made an amazing foreign policy speech at an economic conference in Berlin last week. Inveighing against Russian President Vladimir Putin, he gave a very vivid impression of a man who has no idea what he is talking about.

Russia must respect the sovereignty of all of its neighbors. And who can doubt that Russia will do what it pleases if its aggression goes unanswered?”

Jeb Bush was averring elliptically to the failed state formerly known as Ukraine, trying to put over the shopworn story that Russia was needlessly making war on its neighbor (and former province).

Bush called for increased clarity on what type of sanctions would be imposed on the country if Prime Minister Vladimir Putin does not back down against a united international front…. ‘I don’t think we should be reacting to bad behavior [Bush said]. By being clear what the consequences of “bad behavior” is in advance, I think we will deter the kind of aggression that we fear from Russia. But always reacting, and giving the sense we’re reacting in a tepid fashion, only enables the bad behavior of Putin.’”

Note, by the way, that here is yet another scion of the Bush clan who was inexplicably brought up speaking Ebonics: “What the consequences… is?” Say what?

Ukraine became a failed state due to a coup d’état engineered by Barack Obama’s state department. US policy wonks did not like the prospect of Ukraine joining Russia’s regional trade group called the Eurasian Customs Union instead of tilting toward NATO and the European Union. So, we paid for and enabled a coalition of crypto-fascists to rout the duly elected president. One of the first acts of the US-backed new regime was to declare punishment of Russian language speakers, and so the predominately Russian-speaking people in eastern Ukraine revolted. Russia reacted to all this instability by seizing the Crimean peninsula, which had been part of Russia proper both before and through the Soviet chapter of history. The Crimea contained Russia’s only warm water seaports and naval bases. What morons in the US government ever thought Russia would surrender those assets to a newly-failed neighbor state?

Was Vladimir Putin acting irresponsibly in this case? The opposite would be a much more logical conclusion. And what interest does the United States have in Ukraine? Surely no more than Russia would have in Texas. And when else in the entire history of the USA all the way back to George Washington did any government official declare Ukraine to be America’s business? Answer: Never. Reason: we have no legitimate interests in that corner of the world. So why in the early 21st century are we making this such a sore spot in our foreign relations? Because our waning influence in the world, in turn a product of our foolish inattention to our own economic problems and failing polity at home, is driving America batshit crazy.

The rest of the world sees this for exactly what it is, friends, former friends, and adversaries alike. I wonder what the Germans thought of Jeb’s intemperate and idiotic speech. Eyes must have rolled in the meeting hall. After all, Russia is their natural major trading partner. How do US-orchestrated economic sanctions against Russia work in their interest? Answer: they don’t. The Germans have been making a lot of discreet noises the past year about dissociating from America’s stupid program of antagonizing Russia. Perhaps Jeb’s jingoistic utterances in Berlin will finally push them over the line.

Meanwhile, Hillary (no last name required) steps out of the starting gate this week, too, pretending to be the incarnation of Robin Hood, as if she would ever shut down the financial rackets that have at once impoverished the former middle-class and enriched grifter opportunists such as Hillary herself. Her event on Roosevelt Island, New York City, looked like unintentional self-satire, as if it were staged by the late-great director Robert Altman for one of his wacky political movies. Hillary’s handlers missed one touch though: a cape would have gone nicely with that electrifying blue pant-suit. As for the speech itself, a bigger bundle of platitudes and insincerities has not been served up since the heyday of Nixon. As the politicians are so fond of saying these days, make no mistake, Hillary is the New Nixon.

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495 Responses to “Enter Jeb and Hil”

  1. dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 9:26 am #

    Is this the words of a man who repects national soverignty?

    “Russia must respect the sovereignty of all of its neighbors. And who can doubt that Russia will do what it pleases if its aggression goes unanswered?”

    • Daphne DeMuir June 15, 2015 at 9:32 am #

      It leaves one speechless (and covering our eyes and ears) that Bush and Clinton are it for then next two miserable years. I poke my head out only when Bernie speaks.

      • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 9:35 am #

        the duplicity of their remarks is sickening. Talking “soverighnty” while threatening (name the candidate for $1,000,000) or talking populism while taking millions$ (name the other candidate for $1).

        • hj0934 June 15, 2015 at 10:12 pm #

          Oh Danny Boy, English is crying from your abuse 🙂

          • dannyboy June 16, 2015 at 11:51 am #

            isn’t it expected to be casual on a blog Comments board? Let me know, if you have a moment.

      • shotho June 15, 2015 at 10:21 am #

        Keep it covered for Bernie, uncover it for Rand.

        • lsjogren June 15, 2015 at 12:50 pm #

          Rand Paul is a fool at the other extreme. He and Bush are the two sides of the same coin.

          • Therian June 15, 2015 at 4:33 pm #

            Rand Paul is a guy who pretends to be a libertarian but then issues missives about how we need to fight ISIS militarily yesterday, if not sooner. Just proves to me that each generation is getting dumber (his dad Ron is far more circumspect and less self-contradictory).

            Bernie Sanders actually seems like a much more straight ahead guy than anyone running for the Oval Office. He also has one of the lowest net worths of anyone in any positioning in government in the USA. He’s not any corporation’s bitch.

          • outsider June 15, 2015 at 8:23 pm #

            Therian – Sanders will make minced meat out of Hillary in the debates if he’s allowed to. The Clinton machine will find a way to shut him down.

      • Therian June 15, 2015 at 4:36 pm #

        To me, the prospect of a Bush/Clinton race represents the US death spiral more than any other indicator. You have a guy in bed with the defense industry running against a longtime Wall Street snake posing as a champion of the little guy. Sanders is one of maybe a handful of politicos nationwide to whom I pay any attention at all.

      • BrownieCarlisle June 16, 2015 at 9:52 am #

        Hear, hear. A consistent message, year after year. The stink of controversy follows Hillary anywhere she goes. Smoke ‘n’ fire, baby. Bernie won’t best her for the nomination. She’s spent decades collecting favors and won’t be undersold. I have to give her this: persistence. Stalin saying, “Never, never, never give up.” is not quite as inspiring, though, is it?

    • SteveO June 15, 2015 at 9:37 am #

      You beat me to it!

      The hypocrisy of that statement, from the bother of the war criminal who invaded Iraq at the behest of a group of profiteers, boggles the mind.

    • K-Dog June 15, 2015 at 9:54 am #

      How soon America forgets. No surprise there. Jeb learned that big two dollar word from his brother, who is alleged to be the dimmer of our two royal bulbs.

      Bush Speech on Tribal Sovereignty

      “Tribal Sovereignty Means That. It’s Sovereign”

    • BrownieCarlisle June 16, 2015 at 9:55 am #

      Hear, hear. A consistent message, year after year. The stink of controversy follows Hillary anywhere she goes. Smoke ‘n’ fire, baby. Bernie won’t best her for the nomination. She’s spent decades collecting favors and won’t be undersold. I have to give her this: persistence. Stalin saying, “Never, never, never give up.” is not quite as inspiring, though, is it?

  2. dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 9:28 am #

    Is this a threat from a man who respects national sovereignty?

    “By being clear what the consequences of “bad behavior” is in advance, I think we will deter the kind of aggression that we fear from Russia.”

  3. davidreese2 June 15, 2015 at 9:34 am #

    Must we endure the likes of Jeb and Hil until the next Presidential election? God help us!

    • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 9:37 am #

      We will be enduring one of them for 9-10 years. My theory of Presidential elections is that the second most corrupt candidate always wins.

      So, all we need to do is identify the most corrupt candidate. That’s what all these Presidential politics are about.

      • SteveO June 15, 2015 at 9:40 am #

        Assuming for a moment that Hillary wins, Jeb will crawl out from under his rock 8 years from now for his turn in the rotating dynasty.

        We’re stuck with these people until the collapse.

      • Htruth June 15, 2015 at 9:45 am #

        Both parties serve the same master: https://youtu.be/urNJ0RhHh1U

        • sprezzatura June 15, 2015 at 7:26 pm #

          43 minutes of droning monotone? Long empty pauses? Disconnected ramblings? 114 views? Can you learn how to edit audio? Make an effort, throw in some video.

        • Semi-Employed White Guy June 15, 2015 at 9:22 pm #

          More likely is the scenario where there is no “collapse”. Just a long, slow, excruciating abyssal slide. At which point there won’t be many people talking on blogs about issues like this. Just a large mestizo third world population all over North America, hunting and gathering whatever food they can.

    • Majella June 15, 2015 at 6:07 pm #

      You’re worried about the next two years, when it’s only a crappy dog-n-pony show? What about the 4 years (probably 8!) AFTER that?

      Also, I note with some amusement that Bush the Third is going with “Jeb 2016” – wise, no mention of the Bush name, like Hillary and Sting, Madonna and Cher…oh, I despair.

  4. K-Dog June 15, 2015 at 9:38 am #

    “Russia must respect the sovereignty of all of its neighbors. And who can doubt that Russia will do what it pleases if its aggression goes unanswered?”

    Oh yeah, and everybody here can do your part. As Tom Tomorrow sez!

    Everyone here can do their part for the red, white, and blue. And in the case of Janos heavy emphasis will be on the white.

    • Neon Vincent June 15, 2015 at 9:58 am #

      Hi, K-Dog! I know you have your hypotheses about some of the people who comment here, including our resident racist vampire, but I’m not sure you’re right about him. On the other hand, there are real paid government disinformation agents, and they’re Putin’s hackers and trolls. I’m sure the subject of today’s essay will have them register here, if they haven’t already, to fill the comment section with pro-Russian responses. To them, I say Putin’s a brony riding his little pony.

      • K-Dog June 15, 2015 at 10:08 am #

        I wasn’t really wasn’t wanting to point a paw at anyone in particular but I admit to not being able to resist a cheap shot at our resident racist vampire. A vampire who by this time has an iron clad alibi anyway. My comment might vex a few real government disinformation agents but I don’t expect any more consequences beyond my cell phone getting a mind of its own for a while again while it goes through its battery charge twice as fast as usual. AGAIN!

        • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 12:59 pm #

          “Resident Racist Vampire” – brilliant!

          The last post from this RRV accuses me of anti-gentile posts. Some of my best friends are of the Gentile Persuasion.

      • Neon Vincent June 15, 2015 at 10:17 am #

        Oh, bugger, I screwed up that last link. For all of those reading this at the Internet Research Agency in St. Petersburg, it’s Putin’s a brony riding his little pony. Neener, all you nekulturny trolls!

        While I’m here, I’ll share an item that bears on both the presidential contest and Ukraine, a poll conducted last year showed that Darth Vader had higher favorability ratings than any of the potential candidates, including Hillary Clinton, who had the highest ratings at the time (Jeb’s were well behind hers in negative territory). I thought people shouldn’t laugh too hard. Someone claiming to be the Dark Lord of the Sith was running for President of Ukraine at the time. He was disqualified. Too bad. Even a fake Darth Vader would have done a better job than the people running the country now and the story would have been more fun than all the carnage that actually happened during the past year-and-a-half.

        • K-Dog June 15, 2015 at 10:58 am #

          Darth Vader would be more honest. A funny thought but I’ll try not to laugh too hard. You already made me laugh so hard that I almost peed myself when you said:

          “I’m sure the subject of today’s essay will have them register here, if they haven’t already.

          You’re funny, like ‘they‘ just figured out to fill the essentially unmoderated CFN collapse centric blog with fluff and chaff for the first time now. Which by implication says that for years the chatter here has been as clean as a virgin’s vajayjay. Excuse me while I roll on the floor laughing again.


          • Neon Vincent June 15, 2015 at 5:00 pm #

            Glad to have amused you, even if it was only half-intentionally. Sometimes, I even try to be funny. On a more serious note, as Fan of Entropy pointed out below, I’m sure at least a few people who support Putin, whether for patriotism or profit, have been here all along. I just don’t think this blog is as high on their list as the major metropolitan newspapers, Reddit, or even LiveJournal, which is the most popular blogging platform in Russia. More discussion of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine here might attract their attention.

            I missed your comment about us doing our part for the red, white, and blue when you made a joke about the white part. I actually did something like that when I posted about Flag Day yesterday. The drum and bugle corps fans and alumni on Facebook loved it!

            Also, yesterday was the finale of this season of Game of Thrones. I attempted to be deliberately funny by sharing Game of Thrones drinking game, drink, and music to mark the event. Too bad the series is over for this year!

          • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 5:06 pm #

            the ‘white part’ is the best part

            maybe it’s my individual sense of humor

        • abbybwood June 15, 2015 at 6:10 pm #

          Anybody remember the tie-eating past president of Georgia, Sakashvlli?

          Well he has proven his Neo-con credentials and has been flown in from NYC to be the new head of Odessa in Ukraine!!!:


          Bush and Clinton MUST realize the facts behind the Ukraine coup. There is zero possibility that they have not been informed of the speeches Victoria Nuland has given in Kiev to Chevron executives. They must know that an American citizen named Jaresko was brought in and given Ukrainian citizenship so she could become their new finance minister. She has her own shady past.

          If they know all this and more then they are flat out LIARS and propagandists and need to be called out on their sh*t!


          • abbybwood June 15, 2015 at 6:18 pm #

            Here is a promo for a new documentary that was shown at Cannes, “Humans Live Here” regarding Kiev’s war against Russian speaking Eastern Ukrainians:


          • abbybwood June 15, 2015 at 8:01 pm #

            Here is NeoCon Victoria Nuland (wife of NeoCon Robert Kagan) giving her Ukraine Chevron speech where she boasts of the U.S. spending five billion dollars to usher out Yanokovich:


            And to be clear. Hillary Clinton’s fingerprints are all over this as Secretary of State.

            Putin must have really pissed her off after she declared the “re-set”.

            And just before Kerry fell off his bike and broke his leg didn’t he go somewhere for a private four hour meeting with Putin??

            I wonder if Edward Snowden’s name came up?

            That must be quite a thorn in Obama’s and Kerry’s and Hillary’s and McCain’s and Graham’s collective side, eh?!

            When they see Snowden doing amusing interviews with John Oliver and when they see Snowden in his cozy Moscow apartment with his girlfriend making spaghetti instead of gloating over him being tortured like Chelsea Manning was, that must just make the whole lot want to tear out their hair and spit nails into the wind.

            Poor things….

      • Fan of Entropy June 15, 2015 at 11:16 am #

        I’m sure that there are trolls here (and elsewhere) having rubles deposited into their accounts, but there are some legit criticisms to be made vis a vis Western hypocrisy in the situation unfolding in Ukraine in the last couple of years.

        I’m no pro-Russian, but JHK does make some rather salient points with respect to poking the bear.

        • abbybwood June 15, 2015 at 6:26 pm #

          Here is the criminal past president of Georgia who Neocon Victoria Nuland and Co. brought in to rule over Odessa, Ukraine as he eats his TIE (you just cannot make this stuff up):


    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 2:38 pm #

      And you actually believe that the United States is for the White Race? Even though they’re bringing in Non-Whites by the millions every year, both legal and illegal? While legal European Immigrants have to jump thru all kinds of hoops? And every Non-White off the boat goes to the front of the line for jobs, education, etc? While Whites born here go to the back?

      Defend your ridiculous hypothesis. And in so doing find anyplace where I’ve ever defended this regime. Whites lost control of America when it was ceded to the Bankers in 1913.

      Face it: you believe the same things as the Elite to by and large. They’re for depopulation too. But they may not agree with your ideas of who gets “depopulated”. You say you’re one of the good whites? Really? What have you done for Blacks? How many are living in your home?

      • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 5:08 pm #

        again with the Black and White?

  5. Fan of Entropy June 15, 2015 at 9:48 am #

    As despicable and vile Jeb Bush’s ideals are, and as dangerous and internationally unstable a Bush III administration would be, at least ol’ Jeb is sticking to his ideology. He’s an ass, but a reasonably consistent ass.

    Hillary, on the other hand, never fails to stick a finger to the wind before waxing about topic X or Y. She has no real convictions, or so it would seem… I’m sure she’s a lovely person, one-on-one, as most people are, but she comes across as so insincere and calculating as to stand for nothing.

    It’s no coincidence that the first time I encountered the word ‘triangulate’, it was in reference to the Clintons in 1998-99. True story.

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    • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 9:53 am #

      consistency is the hobgoblin…

      • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 2:41 pm #

        foolish consistency. Consistency per se is the mark of well integrated minds. If the NAACP isn’t racist, then neither would a NAAWP. Look at the Jews: they advocate for their own with a passion. Is that racist, danny?

        • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 5:12 pm #

          Judism is a religion

          A race is different

          You are confusing yourself with your hatred.

          Plus that last comment about a bankers conspiracy to undermine whites is a bit paranoid, doncha’ think?

          got any one left to blame for you personal condition? It’s tiresome hearing you bring out the same conspiritors.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 7:07 pm #

            Wrong. The criterion for residency in Israel is being of Jewish blood. Most Jews are either Atheists or Agnostics. Jews are a people, a culture, an ethne first and foremost.

            Are you an observant Jew, Danny?

          • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 8:06 pm #


            I practice the Jewish religion.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2015 at 12:08 am #

            Ok. So do you consider Jews who practice Buddhism (Jubus) not to be Jews anymore? Of course not. You’re either being dumb or disingenuous. You’re not that dumb so it becomes a question of honesty and character.

          • dannyboy June 16, 2015 at 8:59 am #


            I recently posted my admiration for Leonard Cohen’s practice of Buddhism. You attacked me for that.

            Now you attack me for not admiring Jews who practice Buddhism.

            Clearly you just want to attack. You deserve the National Socialists. fits like an electrode on a confused mind.

    • lsjogren June 15, 2015 at 12:53 pm #

      That’s Hillary’s biggest virtue. She believes in nothing. Thus, when up against the wall, she might very well abandon ideological nonsense and go with her own self interest by siding with the people.

      • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 1:01 pm #

        perhaps we can all agree then that this presidential election is a psychodrama of sociopathic behavior.

        then we can enjoy the theater.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2015 at 2:56 pm #

          So the existence of Jewish Buddhists proves that Judaism isn’t primarily a religion. Cohen still identifies as Jewish and you still accept him as such.

          • dannyboy June 16, 2015 at 3:30 pm #


            Jews can accept philosophies and complement their life. I, for one find a lot f value in aspects of Santana Dharma.

            You, on the other hand reject everything.

            Think you might be missing something?

            Is hate really your only philosophy?

      • Helen Highwater June 15, 2015 at 1:29 pm #

        If she is going to go with her self-interest, she’ll side with the money, not with the people.

        • Fan of Entropy June 15, 2015 at 2:31 pm #


        • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 2:42 pm #

          And so she does. First thing you’ve ever said that I agree with I think.

  6. DrTomSchmidt June 15, 2015 at 9:48 am #

    Did anyone pay attention to the Holy Roman Emperor after, say, 1300? We have bigger problems than who will wield the Presidential power of a failing state. Imagine if Nazi Germany, in its last years, had had nuclear weapons.

    Welcome to the 21st Century. I’m sure the Germans and other Europeans like that nuclear umbrella controlled by Moscow.

    • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 9:55 am #


      but the leader of the nuke is important. To continue your analogy:

      It was the leader of Nazi Germany who led their mischief (hurting German most of all countries).

    • AKlein June 15, 2015 at 9:58 am #

      Imagine in the United States had had nuclear weapons toward the end of WW II. Oh, wait, it did! And what did it do? It used them. Hmmm. So much for the moral high ground, Herr Doktor.

      • DrTomSchmidt June 15, 2015 at 8:19 pm #

        That in a war we had basically won, Too, AKlein. Despicable act, and that isn’t my judgment but that of real warriors at the time.

        We will soon be at the point where the U.S. President cannot project power by conventional force. He might even get us into a war we are losing. When that happens, I don’t think we’re likely to have a person with the restraint to keep from using them. Ford, Carter, and Reagan strike me as decently moral men, but each President since has plumbed new depths of depravity.

        It makes having a sane protector with a nuke umbrella that much more important. 100 years ago German capital was making Russia the fastest-growing pre-WW1 European economy. Those two countries had a bad century. I suspect, as JHK has pointed out, that our increasingly distracted statecraft will get them back on track.

        • outsider June 16, 2015 at 5:22 am #

          When the USSR fell, GHWB (not much as POTUS, but miles better than his idiot oldest son) promised not to move NATO one inch further east. Gorbachev was naïve enough not to get it in writing, a mistake that will haunt him until his dying breath. Clinton promptly broke the handshake deal as he laughed at the drunk Yeltsen behind his back., If Washington had kept its word (which isn’t worth much these days), we would not be in the pickle we have orchestrated for ourselves in Ukraine, which was none of our business to begin with.

        • elysianfield June 18, 2015 at 5:53 pm #

          Despicable act, and that isn’t my judgment but that of real warriors at the time.

          Well, Dr. Tom, that is weapons-grade bullshit. My father was a Glider pilot during WWII…all major jumps, as well as first group into D-Day. Told me more than once that after VE day he was to return to the states to train for the invasion of Japan…where the US military figured one million dead soldiers, airman and marines would occur. Very happy the war ended by ANY means. You are a revisionist of the worst sort…unless the Dr stands for Don’t read (much).

  7. AKlein June 15, 2015 at 9:52 am #

    Looks like we’re going to get all the President we deserve, again. Two non-entity poseurs. Why can’t we get some real candidates with real ideas and who focus on real problems? Someone like a Robert Reich, or a Bernie Sanders. What we do get is fools who just can’t wait to be at the controls of “empire”.
    Move on, move on. Nothing to look at here…

    • chipshot June 15, 2015 at 12:44 pm #

      Your wish has been granted.
      We don’t just have a candidate like a Bernie Sanders,
      we have Bernie himself.

      He is the closest thing to a solution we’ve had in
      national politics in ages, perhaps ever.

      That people are willing to write him off b/c
      he can’t win is mis-guided, self-defeating
      and the ultimate in self-fulfilling prophecies.

      The time has never been more ripe, nor the circumstances
      better aligned, for the biggest political upset in history.

      • outsider June 16, 2015 at 5:34 am #

        Hillary doesn’t wear well and is just plain unlikeable to millions. Proof of that came in ’08 when an unknown black freshman Senator named Obama came from nowhere to beat her. The same could happen again this time, but I doubt if Sanders is the man. Too far Left. Too bad Warren decided not to run, as millions of feminists demand a woman – ANY woman – as long as she is not a republican. If the inevitable candidate is dislodged again, at least we won’t have Hillary to kick around again in ’20. Or will we?

      • outsider June 16, 2015 at 5:44 am #

        Hillary is just plain unlikeable to millions, who would not vote for her under any circumstances. An unknown black freshman senator with a suspicious name came from nowhere to beat the inevitable candidate in ’08. The same could happen again this time, but Sanders is not the man. Too far Left. Unfortunately, but very fortunate for Hil, Warren decided not to run, as millions of feminists demand a woman this time, ANY woman, as long as she is not republican, of course. If Hillary is again not nominated this time, at least we won’t have her to kick around again in ’20. Or will we?

        • outsider June 16, 2015 at 5:45 am #

          Sorry for the duplicate comment. Not intended.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 2:45 pm #

      Reich is a Bilderberger. Big Labor sold out long ago – actually supporting illegal immigrants who destroy any chance for the American Worker to have a good life.

      • hineshammer June 15, 2015 at 4:00 pm #

        Plus he’s a Joo. Am I right? Huh? Huh?

        • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2015 at 12:12 am #

          Oh Hiney, calm down. Lots of Jews are Bilderbergers, and many are not. I don’t know if they dominate that august body or not. Certainly Globalists must have their factions too. The Brezinskites are mad at the Jews for not being team players and having an Israel first mentality. This is what queered Stalin on them as well.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2015 at 12:13 am #

            Let me reverse that: Lots of Bilderbergers are Jews.

          • outsider June 16, 2015 at 5:58 am #

            I’m reading a book by Leonard Glick (also Jewish) entitled “Marked in your Flesh,” which is a condemnation of circumcision. He wrote that German Reform Jews in the 19th Century were against Jews having their own country, thinking that they should assimilate within their native lands. Many throughout the centuries have believed that circumcision is at the root of anti-Semitism. Freud thought so too.

          • dannyboy June 16, 2015 at 9:03 am #


            Circumcision brings the women. Forget the theories.

            Make love, not war

          • dannyboy June 16, 2015 at 9:05 am #


            “Lots of Jews are Bilderbergers”


            “Lots of Bilderbergers are Jews.”

            befuddled much?

          • elysianfield June 18, 2015 at 5:56 pm #

            circumcision is at the root

            Uh, precisely.

      • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 5:17 pm #


        correction, Robert Reich is Jewish. He is American. He is white.

        Jewish is a religion.

        Caucasian is a racial category.

        Let’s try to keep our hate straight. You wouldn’t want to start ranting about Whites and their Conspiracies.

    • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 10:42 am #


      There is a tenuous, at best, causal relationship between Citizen voting and Presidents. That part is theater for your benefit.

      It is the “empire” that makes that decision. And we ain’t in it, we are only working FOR it.

  8. Being There June 15, 2015 at 9:56 am #

    Good post JHK,

    F U and the machine you rode in with!

    Non of these PR in Chiefs have much to say about anything.
    They’re being run by Neocons and Neoliberals and that’s what’s behind all these global machinations in lieu of a Nation State that isn’t interested in being a nation state with a social contract with the people. They only have eyes for big money interests and serve them well.

    Happy Anniversary Magna Carta—6/15/1215 remember that? That’s all about the western civilization and the rule of law. Don’t see anything like that here anymore.

    Mr. Bush’s foreign policy consultant is non other than Wolfowitz, welcome to the new Bushy just like the old Bushy.

    Mr. Obama’s team consists of Neocons as well. Neocons and Neoliberals run with both teams: thus the very successful duopoly. Better than the commies cuz we have 2 parties not one. But you’ll only get one set of monoculture approaches toward all issues and they’re not thinking of us.

    Hillary is a victim of her own success in the global economics and military arena. She can’t say a word against the TPP cuz she is the TPP. She’ll be bringing in the banksters yet again….oh boy next time they’ll just do the negative interest rates, destroy currency and take your money from the bank. It’s gonna be fun, fun, fun….and the billionaire class—spending money on research for eternal life.—oh and building giant bomb shelters to live in for a year. Then what???

    Yesterday I ran across a video showing someone in the Ukrainian govt. warning of US NGO meddling in their affairs and setting up workshops to show coup participants how to use social media for create a consensus for democratically elected leadership—-yup, folks we’re all about the democracy ya, know.

    So I understand that our NATO friends are doing naval maneuvers in the Baltic sea. Hope ya know nuclear fallout doesn’t obey boundaries.

    In the meantime the big message yesterday is how were are the leaders in Nat gas and oil production in the world, meaning of course that the Europeans can ditch Russia and depend on their ole friends, the Americans for all their energy needs.

    Let’s put the kibosh on the pipeline that will lead to Russia, cuz we won’t allow competition—real capitalists we are too.

    This election should be a disaster as usual with all the sloganeering and jingoism and phoney political religion too.

    At this point I’m not even going to watch…..

    • Being There June 15, 2015 at 10:18 am #

      Sorry, I meant to write

      the overthrow of the democratically elected leadership—-yup, folks we’re all about the democracy ya, know.

    • ozone June 15, 2015 at 10:27 am #

      AK and BT,
      I think we have to realize that “the voters” see their security issues everywhere and in all aspects of life. (Now who could have possibly been spreading that meme on very thickly for the last 20 years, hmm?)
      So, whichever candidate can promise them continuum and security is the one who they’ll cast their sacred ballot for.

      Now as to whether these candidates are beginning to believe their own bullshit or not… that would likely be the most terrifying insight yet to be uncovered!

      …And, before anyone asks, yes, these are the finest persons (in both statecraft and compassion for the common man) that we can scare up in the entire territory of The United States of America. Let *that* sink in for a second or two. 😉

      • Being There June 15, 2015 at 10:47 am #

        As my favorite high school history teacher explained. When you see your country opting for a “benign” dictator for security, you know it’s over.

        • ozone June 15, 2015 at 11:10 am #

          Very good then. At least we know right where we stand.

          Tangentially, I wonder if the ‘defense’ industry is making any money these days? (If not, I hope that the taxpayers can help fill their poor-boxes.)


          Huh, how ’bout that? Who authorized this anyway? I couldn’t possibly be duly-elected representatives of the voters, could it?

          • ozone June 15, 2015 at 11:11 am #

            “It” couldn’t be (etc.)

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 2:47 pm #

      Are you willing to swear fealty to a Lord, either you husband or someone stronger, with men at arms at his command? No? Then stop talking about the Magna Carta.

    • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 5:21 pm #

      “At this point I’m not even going to watch…..”

      This is a resolution that I have forgne time and again.

      Most recently, I determined not to watch the Bruce Jenner thang. Dnotcha’ know, that ends up on my favorite social commentator’s blog.

      I determined to avoid Jeb/ Hillary.

      Dnotcha’ know, that ends up on my favorite social commentator’s blog.

      droppin’ out ain’t easy to do

  9. newworld June 15, 2015 at 10:03 am #

    Hillary will win versus Bush, the old “the most important election in history” line is worn and done.

    Anyway foreign intervention will turn into a fiasco. That industry and it is an industry consists mostly of right wingers staffing its vast entangling organizations, but they were just sold out by the few left wingers who wangled into power over the years.

    Just enough came in to destroy their computer security, so when the next war starts all those paycheck patriots will get new sets of Ginsu knives sent to them and their CC statements will be charged for vast sums to some pornography website, good.

  10. malthuss June 15, 2015 at 10:37 am #

    How old is she? 67.5
    a 74 year old president?

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    • shabbaranks June 15, 2015 at 11:00 am #

      She’s had a stroke too.

      Send money to Bernie Sanders’ campaign, even if only $1. I am. He’s going to win the Iowa primary and then the New Hampshire primary. Take a look at the Democratic primary schedule…..it doesn’t favor Hillary Clinton.

      Or send money to Rand Paul for that matter.

    • HARM June 15, 2015 at 12:35 pm #

      I’m not a fan of HRC, but bringing up her age is ridiculous. Reagan was 70 when he took office, and already suffering from symptoms of dementia when he left office at 78. An, no, Hillary did not have a stroke (urban legend started by Republicans), unless someone’s noticed a speech impediment of limp that no one else has recently.

      • shabbaranks June 17, 2015 at 6:05 pm #

        Actually age is material to who ever becomes president, particularly since you cited Reagan’s obvious impairment in his 70s, the age bracket almost all of a Hillary presidency would in fact occupy. Neurologists and family members have commented that during the 1984 presidential debate against Mondale, Reagan displayed behavior that evinced a possible onset of Alzheimer’s. Ergo, you made the case well.

        Hillary did have a brain trauma episode when she, by her own admission, fainted and suffered a concussion. During this time, her health was examined by doctors who found a blood clot in the space between her skull and brain. The clot was not predicted to result in neurological damage and she was expected to fully recover, and based upon the totality of her public appearances she has indeed recovered.

        She essentially risked a cerebral thrombosis, and my remark about a stroke is predicated upon a diagnosis of an cerebral thrombosis that is often preceded by a transient ischemic attack, or TIA, sometimes called a “mini-stroke.” In a TIA, blood flow is temporarily interrupted, causing short-lived stroke-like symptoms. Hence she may not really have “fainted” at all, but had a TIA episode, and then suffered a concussion when her head struck an object or the floor as she fell. The “fainting” explanation would be a standard non-expert, layman’s description of the event they witnessed, which in fact was not at all what medically had occurred, i.e. not fainting but TIA.

        As a part of the treatment regimen prescribed by her physician, she wore shaded glasses for a short period and now wears glasses with a Fresnel prism which an absolute 100% indicator for her suffering from double vision. No one would wear such glasses for anything else.

        Both of the prescribed treatments are empiric (beneficial by means of experience) and expectant (directed toward relief of untoward symptoms, leaving cure of the disease to natural forces). They are within the range of treatment provided to stroke victims. Ergo, it is highly likely Clinton suffered a TIA and subsequent concussion that left her suffering from double vision.

        PS1 – She won’t release her medical records. No surprise there.
        PS2 – She would be 74 less than 9 months into a second term.
        PS3 – 24% of women who have a stroke have a second stroke within five years. The lifetime risk of stroke in women is about 20% to begin with.
        PS4 – Hillary mentioned in her email server dissembling that she withheld emails about “yoga scheduling”. No doubt that among other things prescribed by her doctor such as an aspirin regimen, she is practicing yoga as means of coping with possible hypertension (haven’t seen the medical records, can’t say that she suffers from it), stress (comes with the job of president) and physical inactivity (her weight is indicative of that). So we know she is doing the right thing there by doing yoga to relieve stress and improve flexibility.

        Age is fundamental to leadership, both for the tyros and the more mature among us.

  11. Lawfish June 15, 2015 at 10:38 am #

    It’s quite a choice we get on election day these days. Would you like to be shot or stabbed?

    • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 11:19 am #

      “Everybody Knows” written by Leonard Cohen, describes how the game is fixed (Hat Tip to the poster (and you know who you are) that made the reco. I am sure that Janos will attack anyone (especially a Jew) who could listen to a Jewish singer, but I’ll just suffer his crazy.

      My Theory is the the shot by gun or stabbed by knife choice is by desiggn. How else could they get us to “vote” for the second worst and believe in voting?

      • Lawfish June 15, 2015 at 2:34 pm #

        I no longer believe in voting, at least Democrat or Republican. I refuse to vote for either, other than in local elections. At the state and federal level, they are, as Lewis Black described, “a bowl of shit sitting in front of a mirror.”

      • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 4:22 pm #

        Leonard Cohen, huh? Edgy stuff. Some people get that feeling of victimization and rebellion when they listen to Rap, Death Metal, or Punk. You get it from Leonard Cohen. Very telling. I’m sure it makes you feel the same as when your mother wouldn’t let you grow your hair past your collar.

        • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 5:25 pm #

          my mother would’t cut my hair for years, when I was young. She loved my curls.

          Is it possible to to be wrong about everything?

          I guess you’ll show us how it’s done.

          (and Leonard Cohen is quite popular with women. Another group you hate).

          He is empowering with his Buddhism and his artistry.

          You, not so much.

  12. ozone June 15, 2015 at 10:45 am #

    On the recent and rather stunning disconnects from geopolitical reality from one of the most successful pandering putzes vying for the Oval Throne, JHK sez:

    “The rest of the world sees this for exactly what it is, friends, former friends, and adversaries alike. I wonder what the Germans thought of Jeb’s intemperate and idiotic speech. Eyes must have rolled in the meeting hall.”

    It would be enlightening to have some footage of the crowd listening to these blundering bloviations; yep, I’d pay to see that!

    Certainly, “eyes must have rolled”, accompanied by a freezing cramp in the guts, indicating that the listener has just heard the most recent iteration of “The Big Lie”, that led to the complete destruction of the Fatherland not so very long ago…

    I ask again: Do ‘these people’ [scrambling for positions of power and very little actual work; delegation folks, delegation] believe their own BS, or is it just for the consumption of the lumpenprole who really don’t know any better?

  13. beantownbill. June 15, 2015 at 10:55 am #

    So what else is new?

  14. sooty June 15, 2015 at 11:00 am #

    Two words: Bernie Sanders.

    As a Vermont resident (can’t say I’m a Vermonter b/c my great-greats weren’t) I have lived in the comfort that Senator Bernie would vote for the environment and for the people. He’s unwavering in his care for veterans, his opposition to shady trade deals like TPP, and he has been speaking about climate change for years.

    He’s not slick and managed. He’s the real deal.

    • beantownbill. June 15, 2015 at 11:34 am #

      Do you really believe he stands a chance in Hell of winning? The bottom line is who’s gonna win. Do you think voting is worthwhile? What ultimate meaning does it have to vote for a candidate who’ll get a few percent of the vote? You’ll think you did your duty as an American blessed with the ability to vote, but the 90% or so of the rest of the public will think of him as a joke, and by 2017 won’t remember him. Not that I dislike him, but really, let’s be realistic.

      • chipshot June 15, 2015 at 12:36 pm #

        So we should vote, but only for candidates backed by big money?

        • beantownbill. June 15, 2015 at 7:26 pm #

          Uh, I think you missed my whole point:

          TPTB won’t let anyone they don’t want, win. And they don’t like Bernie, so he won’t win. Why even bother voting, it’s a waste of time. A small percentage of non-mainstream voters won’t change anything – change begins at a much more fundamental level. If Bernie starts to make any headway, the MSM will destroy him. Or maybe he is a plant, kind of like our current, hope and change president.

          I’m not saying there’s a conspiracy, but rather a confluence of opinions among those powerful enough to effect change.

      • HARM June 15, 2015 at 12:39 pm #

        It’s this type of so-called “realism” by voters that prevents anyone good from winning in this country. Until we reject the mindset of the evil of two lessers, nothing will get better. Voting for candidates you don’t like because they are “electable” (translation: bough off) is futile and hopeless as a strategy.

        Broaden your mind a little. Others may even follow.

        • beantownbill. June 15, 2015 at 7:29 pm #

          I am the furthest one can realistically be from the mainstream. I never said I would vote for the lesser of two evils. That concept disgusts me.

      • abbybwood June 15, 2015 at 6:45 pm #

        Sanders is serving as a lemming herder for his good friend Hillary.

        His job is to get all the progressive suckers in line then when he comes up short to hand them all over to Hillary at the convention as the red, white and blue balloons fall from the ceiling.

        Bernie will be there holding hands with Bill and Hill as throngs of stupid women shed tears of joy over the possibility of their precious “glass ceiling” finally breaking.

        Only they will wake up after the Inauguration Ball is over only to realize they were suckered again by another Neo CON who sounds more like Margaret Thatcher or Jeanne Kirkpatrick than Elizabeth Warren.

        Never give a sucker an even break, eh?

        • beantownbill. June 15, 2015 at 7:31 pm #

          My sentiments exactly.

    • Being There June 15, 2015 at 12:23 pm #

      I think Bernie’s the only one out there that has a platform we can work with. I will certainly vote for him in the primary. If he looses that, I might not vote for the first time in my life.

      • beantownbill. June 15, 2015 at 7:32 pm #

        Now you’re talking!

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 2:51 pm #

      Is he an Israeli citizen? If so, isn’t that a conflict of interest?

      • hineshammer June 15, 2015 at 4:14 pm #

        He’s not. He is a US citizen and only a US citizen, but I’m sure you’ll believe what you want.

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  15. wayfarer June 15, 2015 at 11:05 am #

    Do we have one political party, and two rhetorics? A form of fascism?

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    • Being There June 15, 2015 at 12:25 pm #

      Yes. Our success was that the commies had one party and we have the two-headed hydra commonly known as Dems and Reps. Neither party represents the people who elected them, but the people who pay their way.

      The system is unredeemable in this form.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 2:53 pm #

      No. We have Plutocracy, rule by the rich. The word you’re looking for is either Totalitarian or Oligarchy – two negatives that might describe a Plutocracy. Fascism, either negative or positive, is rule of the State over the Corporations. We obviously have the opposite. See the Arch Druid’s three articles on Fascism is you want to know more.

  16. djc June 15, 2015 at 11:07 am #

    When one looks at the current list of presidential candidates, with the exception of Sanders and Paul, a sense of utter hopelessness arises. If this is the best we can do we are truly doomed.

  17. zekesdad June 15, 2015 at 11:12 am #

    James; What is it with your seeming admiration of a murderous thug like Vladimir Putin? If you were living in Moscow posting all these rants against the powers that be on your website, you would have been eliminated long ago like so many other journalists there. You’re the only columnist I’ve read that thinks that we overthrew a duly elected leader in Ukraine. The fact is, Viktor Yanukovich was a Putin stooge put in power in a rigged election. The people of Ukraine rose up when he tried to move closer to Russia and overthrew him. Maybe they got some help from us. If so, good! I guess you’re OK with Putin’s grabbing chunks of Georgia, and wouldn’t mind if they took back eastern Germany too. While were at it, let’s let Mexico take back the U.S. Southwest, and Germany have Alsace Lorraine?
    What business do we have in Ukraine? Well, for starters we and the Allies won World War II, and have (except for Russia) kept order there for the last 70 years, or at least until Obama and Bush blinked and let Putin out of his cage. There is also the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances which the U.S., the U.K., and Russia signed. It was a promise to guarantee Ukraine’s sovereignty in exchange for giving up their nuclear weapons. It was, I believe that any nuclear armed nation has done that, and I now doubt that any other would be so foolish. I wouldn’t expect someone like Putin to honor an agreement, but now Obama’s shown that we can’t be trusted to keep our word either. Just the thing to take our country’s prestige down a notch.

    • Helen Highwater June 15, 2015 at 11:18 am #

      I see you have totally bought into the propaganda being fed to you by your government and the mainstream media. Try a few different sources, why don’t you.

    • beantownbill. June 15, 2015 at 11:44 am #

      Putin is not a good guy, and I don’t think JHK admires him as a person. Jim’s point is that we have no business getting involved in Ukraine’s affairs, whereas Ukraine is on Russia’s border and thus has a more legitimate interest to Russia.

      • Being There June 15, 2015 at 12:21 pm #

        You don’t have to like anything about Putin to know that what we’re doing is wrong not to mention dangerous.

        • beantownbill. June 15, 2015 at 7:34 pm #


      • elysianfield June 15, 2015 at 4:43 pm #

        Putin is not a good guy

        We don’t have to think he is a good guy,..the Russians have to…and, by all accounts, they do.

      • leaveland June 18, 2015 at 9:13 pm #

        I think Putin is a good guy. Skillfully brushing aside US attempts to goad them into WW3, with all that means to Russians and the world. Accepting humiliation and taking a punches from the bully. Willing to talk and negotiate with wretched individuals for the sake of peace, when he could vaporize them. Choosing peace rather than war. Good guy.

    • lostinspace June 15, 2015 at 1:21 pm #

      You don’t credit the Russians as being allies, remember Stalingrad. They kept peace in their own way just like Sadam did. Look how that worked out for us. Iraq I mean.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 2:56 pm #

      NATO – North ATLANTIC Treaty Organization. What is an Atlantic or Western European alliance doing in Eastern Europe? America wants to ring the Soviet Union with missiles is what. Russia not going to allow that. It was and is Putin’s Cuban Missile Crisis – and he has been Magnificent.

      • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 5:28 pm #


        Someone you admire!

        And Magnificent at that!

    • Therian June 15, 2015 at 5:32 pm #

      Yeah God knows that the ghosts of all the dead Panamanians, Vietnamese, Iraqis, Libyans, Koreans, Somalians, and Serbians are whispering in their kin’s ears about how America is such a pacific and “non-murderous” nation full of really swell guys. Do guys like you ever consider the antipodes of your points of view to see if they make any sense at all?

      At least Putin has the guts to murder people in the plain light of day instead of from 10,000 feet as if real people were fictional video game characters.

      • beantownbill. June 15, 2015 at 7:38 pm #

        Murder, whether at 10,000 feet or in plain sight is just plain evil, and I don’t admire anyone who does so.

        • seawolf77 June 16, 2015 at 9:17 am #

          I think he is referring to Americans bombing 3rd world countries back to the stone age.

  18. swmnguy June 15, 2015 at 11:13 am #

    Really, they’re stuck. The real issues of this election can’t be spoken out loud. Our system of corporate finance capitalism, now metastasized to a global level, is collapsing. This shouldn’t have come as a surprise to anyone. The past 30 years of US policy has been a series of ad hoc responses to the collapse of this system. The collapse of this system has been clearly visible and anticipated for well over a century, and those who predicted it have been tarred as “Marxists” and dismissed with facile gestures.

    Well, yes. Marx remains the economist who has come closest to nailing it when it comes to finance capitalism. Every other theorist has been reacting to Marx’s work, trying to come up with an alternate theory that works. Their theories don’t work, and those theorists resort to objections about State Intervention, Cronyism, and all the various reasons finance capitalism doesn’t work. Marx’s understanding of what our system has become includes all of these easily foreseen factors. Those factors are inevitable consequences of the mounting failure of the finance system; not causes of it.

    Too bad Marx was such a horse-bleep political theorist, and had such a rosy view of human nature.

    Our system requires infinite growth. It’s based on money lent at interest. Why would anyone take out a loan today that requires paying back more money tomorrow and next year? Only because they think they will have that more money then. Only because they think their own economy will expand. At the largest level, that requires unlimited energy, resources, markets, and money. We live on a finite planet. Of the 4 inputs, only money can be made unlimited, and that only by making it abstract.

    So our system has hit its easily-understood limits, and all we’ve been doing for 30+ years is pretending we don’t know this, while stalling and temporizing while the elites do what they can to consolidate their current advantage and protect it into the inevitable transition to whatever our next economic system will turn out to be. They system isn’t collapsing because of the corruption; the corruption, cronyism, market-rigging and everything else are responses to the ongoing collapse; attempts to wring out the last droplets of power and wealth before everyone else catches on and the system openly stops working.

    This affects Foreign Policy as well. Unspoken in the MSM are the reasons for US involvement in Ukraine, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, and the rest. Short answer: to control the global flow of energy. The US doesn’t have the personnel or inclination to simply occupy all the sources of energy and trade routes that energy has to traverse, but instead is using proxies and intentionally-created violence and chaos to prevent any potential rival from having any control over their sources of energy.

    The enemies are Russia, China, and the EU. Look at an atlas. Where is the US fighting the “War on Terror?” Around the perimeters of those identified rivals.

    Read Zbigniew Brzezinski’s “The Grand Chessboard.” It was published in 1996 so it’s a little dated. It’s only about 130 pages. It’s written in a fairly turgid, uninspired voice, but it doesn’t keep any secrets. In a paragraph the notion that America shouldn’t aspire to global Empire is disposed of, and the rest of the book is about how the US should proceed to conquer, coerce, co-opt and dominate Eurasia.

    That’s the issue facing the USA. How to control global energy and therefore any potential rivals to US global Empire, while maintaining our status as the only country that can exert military force anywhere on the globe at any time without cooperation; and how to do it before and as our economic system implodes.

    No wonder Hillary and JEB and the other cretins, demagogues, pimps and sociopaths can’t talk about anything that makes any damned sense. They can’t talk about the one single over-riding issue that faces America today, so nothing else they talk about will be the least bit relevant.

    • ozone June 15, 2015 at 11:39 am #

      I do believe you’ve outlined the very kernel of the matter! Well done.
      Guess it’s, “the geopolitical reality that dare not speak its name”.
      (If ‘the voters’ only knew…. or cared.)

      • swmnguy June 15, 2015 at 12:07 pm #

        Thanks. In defense of my fellows in the species “Boobus Americanus,” it’s very hard to see events as they happen in our lives with the clarity one can achieve from several hundred years’ remove, in a history text. Normalcy Bias, the assumption that things will continue as they have recently, plays a part.

        Concerns about how one will pay next month’s rent take precedence, and it’s hard to see how the US sponsorship of IS ties in to why one works all the time at multiple crappy jobs and still can’t get ahead, and a half-gallon of ice cream is now 48 oz., and a routine physical exam costs $900 if you don’t have health insurance but nothing more than your premium payment if you do have health insurance (But if your premium for just yourself is $250 a month, which isn’t improbable, and all you ever do is an annual physical, that physical costs you $3000).

        But it is actually all connected, within a couple of steps.

        And it is “the geopolitical reality that dare not speak its name”. When this becomes apparent and inescapable, people are going to freak out. Once they’re done freaking out, we can pull ourselves together and come up with the next (imperfect) system to use. But once people start thinking of the next system, they’re certainly not going to keep putting stock in the current system. Our current Elites want to keep us putting stock in the current system as long as possible, while they grab everything that is or isn’t nailed down, take the best seats in the first lifeboats, and do what they can to take as much useful stuff with them into the foundation of the next system.

        Besides, did you hear about the crazy NAACP lady who’s pretending she’s black when she’s not because that way she fits into the Identity Politics narrative in a more linear and telegenic way? And how are we going to define “black” and “white” in America anyway? Do we need charts? Does 1/16 or 1/32 blood do it? Is “White” Finnish, or Portuguese?

        See, we’ve got some serious stuff to take care of; stuff that affects our lives, instead of all this politics mumbo-jumbo. And besides, somebody mentioned a Marx other than Harpo, Chico and Groucho, so I stopped listening because Freedom.

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        • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 3:04 pm #

          Marxism is International and completely accepts the premise of infinite growth industrialism. Thus it has been called State Capitalism. Can you try harder? There are alternative economists out there who would meet our needs and your idealism better. Read Jack London for example – an American National Socialist.

          Whites have been raised to hate themselves so they want out. Enter the blonde Rachael Dolzeal and Elizabeth Warren. Instead of (just) condemning them, why not condemn the system that drives them to do such things?

          • hineshammer June 15, 2015 at 4:21 pm #

            Rachel, not Rachael. Dolezal, not Dolzeal.

          • swmnguy June 15, 2015 at 4:56 pm #

            The infinite growth I’m talking about has nothing to do with industrialism and everything to do with Finance. Infinite growth is only required when what is considered Money is actually debt at interest. Without the necessity of annual inflation to cover the carrying costs of debt, it’s possible to do just fine in a steady-state economy that meets people’s needs, adjusted for population growth. That isn’t what we have, which is why we require infinite growth.

            As for white people, a few definitions are in order.

            Beyond that, I don’t know anyone who would call themselves “white” who hate themselves. That’s the same argument certain members of the elite in the nation-state of Israel use against people whose ancestors have been considered “Jewish,” who are opposed to the policies of the current elites in control of the nation-state called “Israel.”

            As a person who would consider myself “white,” I am capable of applying the moral standards I apply to others to myself and my ancestors as well. There are those who would call that “self-hatred.” No, I don’t hate myself. I do hate moral relativism, however. That’s one reason (of many) I am not interested in “Identity Politics.” Definitions are crucial, and I define myself and my interests in ways other than my ancestry and apparent skin color.

          • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 5:29 pm #

            Whites hate whites in your reckoning.

            Is it all just hate?

          • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2015 at 12:18 am #

            So why did they pretend to be something else then? Self hatred of pure practicality? And shouldn’t we be alarmed at either or both? Is the System so geared against Whites now that they have to do this?

          • dannyboy June 16, 2015 at 9:22 am #


            What does Elizabeth Warren have to do with whites hating themselves and wanting out?

            I can’t even follow your rambling posts. I can only assume that you start ranting and then plug in a hated person, hated group, hated religion, hated ethnicity… (as you say “etc”)

    • Being There June 15, 2015 at 12:19 pm #

      Good post.

      I don’t totally agree with you on the capitalist and Marxist models, though.
      Although Marx challenged the rentier wealth system, I think it’s unrealistic to think there won’t be those who have the incentive to make money over others. That’s just baked into the cake when it comes to the human species. Advantages of some over others will always be a driving factor and it can lead to something good, but only if kept in check.

      I think what we had with FDR with the mixed economy and protections against unbridled greed was successful, but new economic models that are not based on unlimited growth are out there and should be explored.

      Developing local economies should take precedence over global. Balances between the stock market and main street was what we once had and have to achieve again.
      The whole monoculture global system based on bubblized stocks, real estate and financial manipulations, never ending war not to mention agriculture based on a monoculture crop are killers in every way.

      Public sectors on both local and larger levels are the cheaper alternative to everything being privatized.
      We had both private and public and it worked.

      We blew the economy on the cold war, though and that’s when they started raiding ss., We also ran into peak oil as JHK explains, but that was our bigger downfall than the economic system at that point.

      I think we had the best of both worlds and we blew it. Everything else is just destructive behavior leading to collapse or worse.

      Yes we have the duopoly and MSM who won’t discuss anything outside of the fantasy that this is the country we used to know. They pulled a quiet coup years ago and the nation state is no longer able to act as a governing body.

      John Connolly before his death told Gerald Celente that if the American people knew what they did, there would be a revolution, but hey he was rather cryptic and didn’t say exactly what they did, but it’s pretty obvious I don’t think he had to.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 3:08 pm #

        Well said in a general sense. We need a mixed economy. There is no getting rid of Capitalism – it is life for some people. And who doesn’t like a good deal or the creativity profit can bring to bear? But the negatives are horrendous when not controlled.

        Yes we had a brief interlude of sanity. It couldn’t last because it was never intended to. The Rulers had other ideas. The Socialism was Marxist and therefore Internationalist and thus Anti-White, Western, Male, American, etc. Look at Sinn Fein: they’re giving away Ireland to Non-Whites. They were always Marxists and never for Ireland and the Irish people per se.

        • AKlein June 15, 2015 at 3:59 pm #

          Janos, I’m not so sure your assertions regarding Marxism, at least as Marx envisioned it, are accurate. For one thing, Marx reviled the “lumpenproletariat”, so often the darlings of modern socialists. Marx’s “workers” are really the middle class, the productive population who make their money with their labor and their genuine creativity, not through rents and financial artifices.
          Incidentally, one of my favorite Marxist philosophies is that all capital comes from the backs of the workers.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 7:15 pm #

            Good point. Marx didn’t like Blacks or Jews either, despite his own Jewish blood (not religion). Some say his forbears were Rabbis even.

            I’ve always heard he hated the petty bourgeois, the small businessman and shop keeper. He loved bigness and centralization. But there are a number of Marx’s apparently. His collected works run to something like 60 bound volumes and you can find what you look for – either the savagery of the proletariat’s revenge against the owners or some pretty nice humanism: In the future there will not be Farmers but Men farming.

        • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 5:33 pm #

          “Socialism was Marxist and therefore Internationalist and thus Anti-White, Western, Male, American, etc.”

          what’s in the “etc.”?
          more groups that Socialists hate?

          I’m not feeling your humanity, Janos

      • swmnguy June 15, 2015 at 4:58 pm #

        “Being There”: Your comments about human nature are why I said Marx was a lousy political philosopher and took a rosy view of human nature. What he was good at was recognizing how finance capitalism worked, and how it would fail and why. The particulars of the failure aren’t as important as the fact that the math just doesn’t work.

  19. schvitzatura June 15, 2015 at 11:19 am #


  20. beantownbill. June 15, 2015 at 11:19 am #

    Let’s see:

    Neolibs = Mostly Democrats = Increasing entitlements for social programs and ignoring the Constitution = destroying the middle class.

    Neocons = Mostly Republicans = Increasing entitlements (but for banks and corporations) and ignoring the Constitution = destroying the middle class.

    Therefore Democrats = Republicans, and it makes no difference who gets to be president.

    Either way, no national plans for dealing with resource depletion (energy, soil, water, etc.) and environmental spoiling. Do I have this right? I’m so confused.

    P.S. I’m starting a gambling pool. Is anyone willing to bet the exact time of Janos’ first anti-black or anti-Jewish posting today? The winner gets a prize tbd.

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    • Being There June 15, 2015 at 11:50 am #


      Neoliberalism means free markets with no barriers to entry (tariffs) or regulations.
      Anything that govt. does to get in the way of making the most amount of money is verboten. Anything in the public sphere must be privatized with of course funds from the govt….they hate govt for us, but love govt for the money for themselves. They fail to see that what they want isn’t capitalism at all.

      Both Dems and Reps adhere to this with few exceptions. This what they learned in school and they think it’s the way of the world and gives the US hegemons a way of feeding off the public infrastructure of other countries.

      Neocon is the opposite of conservativism. It believes in intervention around the world for global hegemony in military and financial arenas. Not at all similar to real Conservatives like Pat Buchanan.

      Again it’s the no-competition with US unipolar hegemony.

      Neither of these neos mean what people think they mean—most likely by design so they can capture more people unawares.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 3:12 pm #

        Yes. As Rothschild (the current one) said, Resources must be de-coupled from the nations in which they reside. Countries per se are caput. Corporations are the new countries! Such an improvement?

        • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 5:34 pm #

          Rothschild said that to you?

          or maybe you got the quote from some anti-Jewish hater.

      • beantownbill. June 15, 2015 at 7:44 pm #

        Thank you for pointing this out.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 3:19 pm #

      Now, now Bill! As Joe Sobran said, We’d be thrilled with dual loyalty. I think you have that much anyway.

  21. Helen Highwater June 15, 2015 at 11:24 am #

    And in today’s news: “A plan by Washington to station tanks and heavy weapons in NATO states on Russia’s border would be the most aggressive U.S. act since the Cold War, and Moscow would retaliate by beefing up its own forces, a Russian defense official said on Monday.

    The United States is offering to store military equipment on allies’ territory in eastern Europe, a proposal aimed at reassuring governments worried that after the conflict in Ukraine, they could be the Kremlin’s next target.

    Poland and the Baltic states, where officials say privately they have been frustrated the NATO alliance has not taken more decisive steps to deter Russia, welcomed the decision by Washington to take the lead.

    But others in the region were more cautious, fearing their countries could be caught in the middle of a new arms race between Russia and the United States.

    “If heavy U.S. military equipment, including tanks, artillery batteries and other equipment really does turn up in countries in eastern Europe and the Baltics, that will be the most aggressive step by the Pentagon and NATO since the Cold War,” Russian defense ministry official General Yuri Yakubov said.

    “Russia will have no option but to build up its forces and resources on the Western strategic front,” Interfax news agency quoted him as saying.” (Reuters)

    As a Canadian, I was horrified when our government jumped up and down and cheered when the democratically-elected government of Ukraine was deposed in a coup d’etat. I’ll bet they wouldn’t like it so much if it happened here. Canada is even sending “trainers” (meaning troops) to Ukraine. I don’t know whether the US told the Canadian Prime Minister to do it or if he is just insane too. But it sure looks like somebody would love to see a war between Russia and “the West”.

    • Being There June 15, 2015 at 11:40 am #

      Cold war 2.0 stands to be far more dangerous than the first. Sooner or later it will be more obvious that we have no economy and we’re doing the same to Europe.
      The Germans are even having their BMW factories set up in China and China makes our military vehicles and hardware cuz the model of the CEOs making money over any other concern trumps basic logic.

      Hmmmm what could possibly go wrong…

      The term crazy just doesn’t really cover it, does it?

    • Helen Highwater June 15, 2015 at 1:35 pm #

      And another interesting article about Ukraine: https://consortiumnews.com/2015/06/12/u-s-house-admits-nazi-role-in-ukraine/

  22. toughbretts June 15, 2015 at 11:47 am #

    “Bush clan who was inexplicably brought up speaking Ebonics”

    Good one.

    • Beryl of Oyl June 15, 2015 at 1:31 pm #

      I liked it too.
      I have a theory that the Common Core was invented so that the rest of us will be as dumb as some of these oligarchs who went to private schools are.

  23. capt spaulding June 15, 2015 at 11:48 am #

    Much like the Titanic, The wealthy have all the lifeboats while the poor folks (Irish Immigrants if I remember correctly) are held at gunpoint by the crew and forced to remain in steerage which is where their kind belongs anyway.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 3:17 pm #

      Jeb raves about the superiority of the Mexican people to White Americans. The Elite want to elect a new people – a less intelligent more docile one.

      In the old West, the cattle used were Long Horns who also had long legs and could fend for themselves against weather and predators. But they were dangerous to work with dem horns and that fierce temperament. So once they didn’t need them anymore they got rid of them in favor of more docile breeds. Same is happening now in America.

      • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 5:36 pm #

        “The Elite want to elect a new people – a less intelligent more docile one.”


  24. toughbretts June 15, 2015 at 11:52 am #

    Jeb, a modern day cabeza de vaca, literally.

  25. seawolf77 June 15, 2015 at 11:55 am #

    Jack and Jill went up the hillTo fetch a pail of water.Jack fell down and broke his crown,And Jill came tumbling after.

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    • capt spaulding June 15, 2015 at 4:18 pm #

      Then up Jack got, and he did trot, as fast as he could caper. To widow Dobb, who patched his knob, with vinegar and brown paper.

  26. rollie June 15, 2015 at 11:56 am #

    Hahaha…. “Say what?” How fitting that his name is Jeb, too. Ol’ Jeb gwine tell ya what da consequences is!!

    Doubly ironic considering that as a lifelong rich-fuck, he has never had to face any consequences… or at least none of any “consequence.”

  27. norecovery June 15, 2015 at 12:37 pm #

    We should know by now Jeb and Hillary are merely actors performing in the kabuki show. The policies are determined behind the scenes by the wealthiest and most powerful people whose army of minions working in think tanks and other institutions write the propaganda scripts and figure out the strategies. At the top of that pyramid are the Western banksters and oligarchs. They know full well the implications of the Russia-China economic and military alliance, which threatens to undermine the hegemonic US-EU house of cards. The new BRICS financial cooperation already has attracted many other productive nations to its anti-dollar system that is based on real productivity and value, instead of the West’s manipulated chimera of economic growth based largely on arms sales and exploitation of someone else’s resources. These vain attempts by Western mass media (including the Guardian) to paint Russia and Putin as the devil’s threat to world peace, only demonstrate the desperation of the failing influence and power of these Western banksters and oligarchs, who are competing with the more efficient powers in the east to grab the planet’s remaining resources in this last gasp of industrial civilization.

  28. LLPete June 15, 2015 at 12:55 pm #

    Jeb was supposed to be the smart one. W set a pretty low bar but man, Jeb comes across as a real dullard.

    • malthuss June 15, 2015 at 1:12 pm #

      Does that mean, ‘Hillary is Smart’? [we know she is immoral].

      • Beryl of Oyl June 15, 2015 at 1:32 pm #

        Smarter than Jeb. That’s not saying much.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 3:22 pm #

      Yeah I’m a bit surprised though I haven’t really followed the man. He looks a lot smarter and more dignified than George Jr. I naturally assumed he was. But he’s stumbling already. Of course it doesn’t take much to be smarter and more dignified than George Bush Jr….

      • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 5:38 pm #

        his mother didn’t want him to run for President.

        Tells you something.

    • seawolf77 June 16, 2015 at 9:03 am #

      In a room full of dim bulbs, a match can appear bright.

  29. Smoky Joe June 15, 2015 at 12:58 pm #

    Jim, it’s not about Ukraine. All the posturing is really about Poland and the Baltic States. Putin seems to want the latter back in his camp, but neither they nor Poland have any historical rationale to be part of Mother Russia, save after the Hitler/Stalin pact.

    Gregor Dallas’ book 1945 shows clearly how Stalin set a policy or expansion and buffers. The latter is actually a reasonable goal in a neighborhood as dangerous as Eastern Europe or the Balkans, even if his and his henchmen used means that were despicable.

    We’d abandon NATO at our peril. I just hope it is clear to Putin that meddling in Poland or the Baltic nations would mean war. That is the currency he, and Stalin, understood very well. Of course, meddling in the Ukraine may lead to exactly what we do not want: Russian meddling in the new NATO nations.

    • Helen Highwater June 15, 2015 at 1:39 pm #

      Could you please explain what exactly Putin has done that indicates that he wants the Baltic states back in “his camp”? And by the way, NATO went against the agreement not to encroach on Russia’s borders. You might find this article interesting: http://fpif.org/crimea-just-whos-encroaching/

  30. islander800 June 15, 2015 at 1:13 pm #

    Talking about the inevitability of having to choose between Hillbillary and whomever the chosen one is from the Republican Clown Bus, I personally can’t wait until the New Hampshire primary. That’ll be when the smug self-entitled Hillary gets her butt handed to her (now that’s a scary sight!) by Bernie from neighbouring Vermont. The whore of Wall Street won’t know what hit her, and the whole dynamics of the Democratic primary process will flip in an instant. People should recall that it was the dismal results in New Hampshire that led LBJ to make his shocking announcement that he would not seek, and would not accept, the Democratic nomination for a second presidential term.

    As for Jebb pontificating on the risks of Russian “aggression” going unanswered, just look at the results of American foreign aggression going unanswered for the last decade: that would be the likes of Jebb flapping his gums about starting WW III.

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    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 3:25 pm #

      No it wont work – he doesn’t have the visibility and the word socialist will scare away too many. Put Warren against Hillary: mano a mano, woman against woman, Freddie against Jason – place your bets. That’s the ticket. On that note: Sanders would make a great veep.

      • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 5:39 pm #

        “Put Warren against Hillary: mano a mano, woman against woman”

        some gender confusion?

  31. ralphm June 15, 2015 at 1:42 pm #

    #HillaryistheNewNixon , eh?

  32. CrusherMuldoon June 15, 2015 at 1:43 pm #

    This man will give Hill sleepless nights and will be the White Knight Bearing The Cross of Gold: http://www.chafee2016.com/

  33. Beryl of Oyl June 15, 2015 at 1:45 pm #

    A young (male) friend of mine told me that he supports Hillary over the other candidates. When I asked why, he said that the other candidates are just as bad, and they are all male, so why not finally have a woman president?
    If my only choices were Hillary and Jeb, that would be a reason not to vote at all, as they are two sides of the same coin.
    I wish Bernie Sanders wouldn’t make remarks about deodorant choices and hungry kids. I am really tired of hearing about kids that I’m starving. Sorry.

  34. volodya June 15, 2015 at 1:51 pm #

    Two lousy kleptocracies, one with oil, one without.

    Mr. Kunstler is right that Ukraine is a failed state. But IMO it was a failed state long before Yanukovich buzzed off. And, IMO, it failed not because of any machination by the US War Department …er … State Department, but rather because of the decades long predation by Ukrainian oligarchs, the eyes wide-shut complicity of Ukraine’s own intelligentsia, the somnolence of Ukraine’s own people, not to mention decades of calamitous communist despotism. And also because of a lot of messing about by Russia.

    Remember all those little green men that went marching into Crimea, all with no insignia, but bearing Russian made weaponry? Ukrainians stood there helpless. No greater measure of failure than that. I already told you my opinion but you get to decide, was it a failed state by that time or did Russian interference and invasion push it over the brink?

    IMO the US has not got the reach. The US just isn’t that competent. I mean, even at the peak of US power, the US couldn’t even extract that sweaty Latin lover less than a hundred miles off-shore. And look at the disastrous record of misreads and misfires by American foreign policy “experts”.

    And I just don’t see Ukrainians as so amenable to manipulation no matter the mutterings and suitcases of money from US operatives. Local conditions and decades of plunder and misrule are enough to account for the barricade-burning, brick-tossing, bullet-fest that the Maidan became. No need to conjure up surreptitious “engineering” by lurking Americans. Yeah, no doubt there were CIA spooks behind the curtains. But I doubt their efficacy.

    Yeah, I know, I know, NATO expansion. Right to Russia’s doorstep. If the Russians were smart, which I also have serious doubts about, they should have welcomed NATO expansion. With open arms. With parades, speeches and exuberant celebration. Why? More imperial over-reach, more financial millstones for an already disastrously indebted US government. All of this to Russian long-term advantage. Plus, NATO is a paper tiger, unable, unwilling, full of free-riders. Biggest joke going.

    If the US foreign policy establishment were smart, and I have even more serious doubts about that, they would hand Ukraine to Russia – and not only Ukraine but Greece also – wrapped in a bow. Two bows. Two ticking economic and societal time-bombs ready to blow. Let Putin worry about them.

    • Being There June 15, 2015 at 2:37 pm #

      Putin doesn’t want either basket cases, trust me.
      He is smart and yes, sadly regardless of where the sentiments might be, the US NGOs did do their dirty work for the coup. $5billion later and Cargill, The gas co. Burisma Holdings where Hunter Biden is now on board literally is an expression of the soft power behind our interests.

      As I said earlier we’ve been crowing about being the new oil and gas giant for what audience? I believe the Europeans. Let’s see what happens when we have to furnish them with all their energy needs next winter.
      I have a title for that: The Winter of European discontent.

    • Helen Highwater June 15, 2015 at 2:44 pm #

      Yanukovych didn’t exactly “buzz off”, he was told he’d be assassinated if he didn’t leave Ukraine. I guess you missed the Nuland conversation about “our man Yats”.

      • volodya June 15, 2015 at 3:24 pm #

        Our man Yats? Nuland can say what she likes, talk being exceedingly cheap.

        Some phone calls between self important Americans don’t count for much. It doesn’t mean that foreigners do what they’re told. Foreigners most often have their own agenda and do what they like which I would say accounts for much of the miscalculation and disaster that characterizes American foreign policy.

        I would say that, after every foreign misadventure, US foreign policy people sat there slack-jawed not having a clue what to do.

        Assassination? Of Yanukovich? Americans over-estimate their own power much more than foreigners over-estimate it but I think it would have been highly unlikely. Putin would have felt compelled to hit back. As we’ve seen, Putin has no problem killing opponents be they overseas or domestic. No, I think Yanukovich was afraid but I think it wasn’t Americans he was afraid of.

        See, if I was a betting man, I wouldn’t put a lot of money on Nuland’s pronouncements. Ukraine, after all, is a long way from US shores.

        Russia, on the other hand, is close by. And Putin, as the authoritarian leader of that place, is a different thing altogether.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 3:29 pm #

      Helpless? They were cheering. The East is Russian as Mr Kunstler said. The partisans asked the Russians to come in. It may not be a viable country. Remember, Huntington’s cultural line bisects Ukraine. The West is traditionally Catholic and looks to the West. The East is Orthodox and looks to the East. Different Civilizations. The answer is – Obvious! That’s not to say it will be done of course. Too much Ego on both sides.

  35. FincaInTheMountains June 15, 2015 at 2:04 pm #

    If you look into the essence of the problems between US and Russia, they are always simple and straightforward.

    There is a group of bandits, who used to live at the expense of others.

    There is a group of worker bees, who for a time were forced to endure the brazen extortion by the gangsters. But as time passed, and worker bees got muscles, making the advantage of the bandits in power not quite evident. And worker bees naturally refused to pay tribute.

    What bandits are to do? There are three ways. Try to intimidate, try to force-prove their right to extortion or make their own honest living. The latter is unacceptable for ideological and psychological reasons; the second is scary because you never know how it will end. So there remains first.

    And that is what we are witnessing today. Demonization of Russia takes place not with the aim to convince anyone in their own right, but to mute their own fears of the inevitable(that they’ll have to make their own honest living). And of course there is a faint hope that it’ll work.

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  36. walkabout June 15, 2015 at 2:06 pm #

    I live in Europe. Spain, to be exact.

    If tomorrow a Russian tank drives down my street I’ll get the shotgun and stop it myself.

    In the meantime, can you tell me how to get rid of those Americans which snoop our phones, email and internet?


    • FincaInTheMountains June 15, 2015 at 2:09 pm #

      I’ll tell you a top Russian military secret: a bibi gun works a hell lot better on Russian tanks than a shotgun.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 3:31 pm #

      Yes, Franco fought the Communists – who were supported by the West. Franco didn’t like Hitler (different kinds of Fascism) but no one else would help him. Yet he triumphed in the end. One of the few times in the 20th Century that the good guys won.

      • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 5:41 pm #

        “the good guys won”

        for once, i’m speechless.

        don’t worry about me though.

        you have more important pronouncements to make

    • K-Dog June 15, 2015 at 4:18 pm #

      Those who snoop do more than snoop if they know that you know they are there. For instance I had to make this comment from a different I.P. addy since my home browser was blocked today after my third comment.

      I’ll be crossing my paws with baited dog breath to see if this gets posted. Was my I.P. banned or my username? I am one key press away from finding out!

      • K-Dog June 15, 2015 at 9:39 pm #

        Tried to comment on my comment earlier (some hours ago) just to say Hurray! Hurray! I made it!

        But when I posted the above comment I was instantly banned just like the first time today.

  37. Tangoo June 15, 2015 at 2:31 pm #

    Jim, when you talk about Ukraine and Russia you are really talking out of your ass. Sometimes you write some good stuff, so please stick to your knowledge core and stop the speculation. I could ask for specific sources for your conjecture but I’d never get it – because it doesn’t exist.

    Again Jim, you can have truly original and inspiring thoughts. And you can be totally full of shit like this week (which is just Orlov regurgitation). My sense is you’re putting less time into your blog thoughts than you did in the past.

    • Helen Highwater June 15, 2015 at 11:55 pm #

      Apparently you would rather believe the propaganda being fed to you by the government and the mainstream media than listen to Jim and Dmitry and many others tell the truth about what happened in Ukraine.

      • Tangoo June 21, 2015 at 5:10 pm #

        Apparently you would rather believe the propaganda being fed to you by the Russian government, the Putin controlled media, and listen to Dmitry and Jim than do what is difficult and study both sides of the issue and free yourself from the obvious bias on both sides,

        This is not a question of picking the proper propaganda, This is your problem of not understanding that both sides are feeding you propaganda. Study history (very important but much too difficult for you, yes?), read alternatives to mainstream anything (Jim and Dmitry are mainstream), then we can talk seriously.

        Am I a Republican or a Democrat? That is a good analogy for what I’m trying to tell you Helen. Give it some thought, and give your black or white brain some shades of grey.

      • Tangoo June 21, 2015 at 6:11 pm #

        And Helen, what the hell do you know about Russians and Ukrainians? I live in a former Soviet satellite and see Russians and Ukrainians every single f***ing day. The Ukrainians are the low wage workers, and the Russians are the ones, like I saw yesterday that paid with a 500 euro bill for 10 euro worth of vegetables from a local shop, with the cash. Which they stole, and we all know it, it is not a secret here. There is a hotel being renovated 10 minutes walk from my flat by Russians for Russians that want 1200 euro a night. No other tourist would pay that price for that hotel so far from the city center. It just a place for Russians to surrounded by the gaudiness they love.

        The fact is Helen you get your limited information from Orlov and Kunstler. Come on over here and see what happened when a former Russian controlled country joined the EU. It’s called prosperity. There is almost no corruption (ever tried to cross the border into Kaliningrad? You better have a gift for the border guards or you’ll get your car torn apart and sit there for 24 hours waiting) and life is 1000 times better than in Ukraine. THAT’S WHY UKRAINIANS COME HERE, capisce?

        Putin is former KGB, probably the richest man in the world, and a mere mafia chieftain who knows when his time is up he may die a mysterious death.

        I know Russians, and I know Ukrainians, so forget the politics and the propaganda and do your own thinking. But yeah, that’s hard, right?

  38. seawolf77 June 15, 2015 at 2:50 pm #

    On 11/22/63 unbeknownst to us at the time, America traded a Kennedy dynasty with a Bush dynasty. We went from glamorous, beautiful and sophisticated to dull, ugly and inane in a millisecond. We’ve all been bushwhacked. Can anyone tell how these incredibly ordinary people wound up leading this country?

    • abbybwood June 15, 2015 at 7:36 pm #

      Ummm….Skull and Bones??

      JFK did try to warn us about “Secret Societies” I believe at his American University speech? YouTube.

    • ozone June 15, 2015 at 8:05 pm #

      Not positive, but I’ll give it whirl, informed by historical consistencies and preferred tactics:
      Venality; intrigue; bribery; deceit; psychopathy; and last, but far from least – bold and bloody murder in the plain light of day.

      May the sins of the fathers (at the last) be visited upon the sons, instead of their millions of victims, and may they meet their fates at the hands of the evil forces they themselves have unleashed upon an unsuspecting world.

      • ZrCrypDiK June 15, 2015 at 8:40 pm #

        “May the sins of the fathers (at the last) be visited”

        Quite the hopeful personage – not quite the pessimist I had in mind. I know, forming virtuality, so (in/non[sp?])succinctly…

        The mantra chants on – whether one hears it or not is inconsequential… The trees are gone – take one long last look at the Saharan Desert. We botched the forest clearcut/slash-and-burn thangy bigtime. All that CO2 could have been easily sequestered into the forests with exponential species diversity…

      • seawolf77 June 16, 2015 at 9:07 am #

        The sins of the father were visited on the son. JFK JR is dead too, 39 years old I think. Didn’t even make it as long as his Dad.

  39. Kevin Lee June 15, 2015 at 3:06 pm #

    Give Jeb a break, he’s just parroting the myth that most Americans have already swallowed hook, line, and sinker. The bigger question is: Is he toeing the party line because he really believes it, or because he knows that the oligarchs who have selected him and Hillary to be our “choice” in 2016 will throw him under the bus and pick someone else to take his place if he speaks the truth?

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 3:37 pm #

      No, he’s a leader. Most Americans don’t believe that we should be replaced by Mexicans, but that’s what he’s pushing. When Americans becomes officially bilingual, and millions of English speaking civil servants are out of a job because they aren’t fluent in Spanish, then they will wake up. Far too late of course. No? It happened in Quebec in regards to being bilingual in French and English.

      In other words, Liberals are the least aware – because the most conditioned – of all Americans. And since Government Workers are among the most Liberal, they are among the most deluded, far below blue color Americans in sensing the current danger posed by immigration. It’s also their bread and butter – and that’s the corruption factor. Of course Jeb’s corruption factor is the Republican cheap labor side.

      • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 5:44 pm #


        Hate immigration too?

        Let me know what you are for

        Like in America

        • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 7:21 pm #

          You think we need more? Most people on this site disagree with you. The jobs aren’t there, Danny. And we need a moratorium to assimilate the ones we have. We have a massive case of indigestion right now. A bad wind is arising…

      • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 6:20 pm #

        “Government workers…are among the most deluded.”

        Janos help me out here. Are Government workers worse than Mexicans in this post? Oftentimes you put your have on several groups in one post. Hard to decipher the ranking.

        Please provide Janos’ Hierarchy of Hate, so we have a scorecard.

        Think Maslow, but group hate and self-hate, rather than progressive needs and self- actualization.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 7:23 pm #

          Well that would be comparing apples and oranges. If Mexicans become the Government workers, then we can compare them as a group with say White or Black ones – assuming any of these are left once America becomes bilingual.

          See how much fun clarity intellectual clarity can be? I am Socrates and you, the slave boy.

          • dannyboy June 15, 2015 at 8:38 pm #


            Mexican-Americans have been Government workers for a very long tome. They perform their jobs satisfactorily. Stop creating this Boogieman who is coming to get you.

            That is your own fear.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 7:28 pm #

          Maslow used to struggle with feelings of hatred towards his Christian students around Christmas time. What stage was that? Certainly not Self Actualization.

          I’ve had many peak experiences. Outwardly I’m a Thrall becoming a Carl but inwardly a Carl becoming a Jarl. I’m using the old tripartite European system. The Aryan or Hindu system takes the highest Caste and divides it into two, the Brahmin priest/intellectual and the Ksyatria, warrior/lord.

          • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 11:27 am #

            hey Carl, or Jarl, or jonos, or…

            I must have missed the piece of misinformation that you posted (again). So, just so you get enough insight into your confused existence to begin to change, here is the correction:

            The Indian System of Dharma does define roles in order for Society to function harmoniously. But you got them wrong.

            The mistake you make is in attributing a social hierarchy to family Dharmas. This ‘heirarchy thang’ is the creation of your divided mind, in which you have subordinated yourself.

            These roles were intended to complement each other, to allow for social harmony, but I guess that you just can’t live with that concept.

            Keep hating, it grows on you.

          • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 12:53 pm #

            Wow, I missed this one!

            Now you are REALLY shitting through your keyboard, Janos.

            “I’ve had many peak experiences.”

            but Janos, you must know by now that your Approach to Truth Through Hate isn’t working. Take a look at your life.

  40. bob June 15, 2015 at 4:14 pm #

    Well done JHK. I am note prone to smiling let alone laughing ,but this whole situation you so insightfully expose has the potential of great black humour.

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  41. tssmith55 June 15, 2015 at 4:14 pm #

    I’ve always thought that foreign policy is conducted on many levels; or at least it should be. One is for public consumption, the others more “behind the scenes”.

    In this case, I could imagine J. Bush’s people going to A. Merkel’s people (or maybe even Putin’s people) and saying: “Look, he’s going to give a public address in Berlin, and he’s going to say a lot of stupid-sounding things. He has to do this for his people, and financial supporters back home, but he doesn’t really mean it.”

    Or am I ascribing too much intelligence to Bush and “his team”?

  42. Kevvia Knack June 15, 2015 at 4:30 pm #

    Good God. How does anyone in the Bush family have the nerve to run for President after the mess ‘W” created in Iraq? No shame, ppssht…..boggles the mind!!!! Ickk!!.

    • peakfuture June 15, 2015 at 5:24 pm #

      These folks have no shame, that’s why. They are practically a different species. Then again – think of those who are on reality TV – no shame either.

      I keep asking people ‘Who do *you* want to run for president?’, rather than ‘Who will you vote for?’ If enough people think that there are other choices, maybe that will goad a decent candidate to come forward, or for people to think that a third way is possible.

      As far as the Russian debacle, has anyone in the collapsenik world disagreed as the underlying view that JHK (and Dmitry Orlov) have put forth (we shouldn’t be involved)?

      Speaking of Dmitry, (although many of you who read here probably read Club Orlov, since they are close on the collapsenik graph http://www.resilience.org/stories/2014-01-15/charting-collapseniks) you should know Dmitry needs an engine: https://life.indiegogo.com/fundraisers/a-new-engine-for-my-boat

  43. Zoltar June 15, 2015 at 5:06 pm #

    The prospect of having a Clinton vs Bush campaign for the next two years, and either of them as our next nominal president, reminds us why regime change in ancient times traditionally included hunting down every member of the family that could be identified and impaling them on pikes, to remind supporters that those times are over.

    In our own era, in addition to at the very least deporting – under threat of death if they should ever again set foot in this country – every person named either Bush or Clinton, prudence would have required tearing up all shrubbery from American yards, as well as proscribing the mention of the man who first scaled Mount Everest.

    For want of these sorts of enlightened policies we now find ourselves living in the world’s largest banana republic – a land so benighted that voters can only apprehend the idea of pulling a lever next to a name they’ve seen in office before.

    I suggest that someone – perhaps one of my fellow Clusterfuck Nation readers – legally change their name to “Notbush Notclinton.” I predict that person, regardless of his or her personality or attainments, would be elected in a landslide. In fact, I hereby pledge my vote to that candidate.

    But if any of your relatives should run for President after your term of office has expired, I will personally reach for my torch and pitchfork.

  44. FincaInTheMountains June 15, 2015 at 5:20 pm #

    “We’d abandon NATO at our peril. I just hope it is clear to Putin that meddling in Poland or the Baltic nations would mean war.” — Joe

    I doubt that it will mean shit. American army is capable only for punitive colonial expeditions against a bunch of technologically backward aborigines, and even there it manages to screw everything up.

    • peakfuture June 15, 2015 at 5:55 pm #

      The fact that the US had some trouble with Yugoslavia (they did manage to shoot down an F-117) is telling. Going to war with Russia in their own backyard would be insanity, but nobody said the folks in charge were sane.

      I highly recommend Gary Brecher on this sort of stuff (The War Nerd).

      Two pieces that are worth reading:


      and about our capabilities in general…


      • ZrCrypDiK June 15, 2015 at 7:00 pm #

        Haha, “noyce!”

        That war nerd is kinda funny, ironic, and sarcastic. Pardon my duplicity/redundancy here. No more need to discuss Russia, really. The thing is, you’ll never hear MSM talk about how the Ukraine has something on the order of 20 nuclear power plants (isn’t that where Chernobyl is located?).

        Hillary and Jeb sound just like the Beverly Hillbillies, perhaps because that’s EXACTLY who they are. Lucky douches who inherited or accidentally discovered some wellspring (fountain of youth/gold-silver wishes/Vannevar investing in the Nazi’s WWII/etc). And (they are) surprisingly sub-par candidates, for the course (well, Hillary whuz the brains behind Bill his entire candidacy).

        I figure Bernie debates will at least get “her” to posit an opinion on real issues for a change, rather than hiding from opining a single fracking thang (what does she *think*). And if Bernie loses the primary, I will have to go with the Green Party (Jill?).

        BTW, Zoltan’s post was quite schizophrenically enlightening!

  45. FincaInTheMountains June 15, 2015 at 5:36 pm #

    Anglo Saxons and their Magna Carta

    The Magna Carta extorted from Richard’s successor King John in 1215 had nothing to do with political liberties in the modern sense, but protected the license of marauding feudal barons against the central monarchy.

    The enforcement machinery of the Magna Carta permitted the barons lawfully to wage war upon the King in case their grievances were not settled. Since civil war and private warfare were by far the greatest curses of society at that time, England was held hostage to parasitical feudal overlords that a more centralized (or “absolute”) monarchy might have mitigated.

    The barons, whose sociopathic prerogatives were anchored in the Magna Carta by a license for civil war, were easily the most reactionary element in English society, and were susceptible to easy manipulation by Venice, which had now conquered Byzantium and was approaching the apogee of its power.


    A perfect map for modern oligarchy. Enjoy the anniversary.

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    • Frankiti June 15, 2015 at 6:44 pm #

      get your own blog… buffoon in benidorm

  46. nsa June 15, 2015 at 5:47 pm #

    Here in Ft. Meade, we have decided to dust off the Mackinder Doctrine of 1904. The Brits failed because they relied almost exclusively on sea power…we will NOT make that mistake. To control the Island World (Eurasia) it is necessary to control the Heartland (Russia). We already control eastern Europe…the next step is to thrust our Joohadis directly into the central Asian republics, splitting the Heartland asunder and complete the unfinished business of fracturing what is left of the USSR. To control the Heartland is to control the Island World which is to control the globe. Full spectrum dominance of every aspect of human existence achieving the power of a god. Some of you will think we here in Ft. Meade are insane……..

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 7:31 pm #

      Yes, the Dalek Empire will expand throughout all places and all times – and then on to other Island Universes.

  47. FincaInTheMountains June 15, 2015 at 6:10 pm #

    Given that the amount of tactical nuclear weapons at Russian disposal by order of magnitude exceeds that of all NATO countries combined, the necessity to push the border from Leningrad in the Baltic region is not very pressing for Russia, and the Baltic republics could quietly go to hell and all nightmares of Estonian president have no relationship to the confrontation between Russia and NATO.

    But the need for a pre-emptive strike against the group of potential enemy concentrated in the vicinity of your borders could be very real and legitimate, and is described in great details in any textbook on military history. And placing heavy weapons on the borders of another state is called provocation which a preemptive strike is designed to block.

    And in order to make a preemptive strike, it is necessary to concentrate in the vicinity of the same border, but on the other side, the forces exceeding that of the enemy, and I hope that it will be Armata and T-96 tanks, but not Iskanders, because Iskanders cannot wait for the tanks to cross the border, and no doubt will destroy the enemy group within 5 minutes after first dozen tanks will start their motors.

    At all that concerns not just the Baltic States, but all around the perimeter of European front line, and the new NATO members will have the opportunity to learn that the NATO membership is not a guarantee to avoid a severe punishment.

  48. Buck Stud June 15, 2015 at 6:47 pm #

    Actually, Nixon was a decent Republican in many ways and on many issues. Compared to the Klowns the GOP currently features, Nixon would be positively sterling.

    Of course the party of Ted Cruz, S Walker et al would declare Nixon a “librul”.

    Put another way, I’ll vote for Nixon this time around because the GOP lunatics certainly won’t be withholding their vote on election day.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2015 at 7:42 pm #

      Think of it in terms of process. If Nixon was around now, he’d be voting like Ted Cruz does. And the reverse is also true. As it is, the “nuts” build on what Nixon did – such as “opening” China (in reality America was opened to Chinese goods and China opened to American factories – an all around disaster for the American people)

  49. Pucker June 15, 2015 at 6:53 pm #

    “…is driving America batshit crazy.”

    America is batshit crazy.

    Read “Battlefield America”. It’s a “Must Read”.

    They’re now militarizing local police forces in the US, absorbing them into the US military by giving them surplus US military hardware, including assault rifles, Humvees, tanks, drones. As make-work government programs to justify continuing DHS funding, local police departments now routinely deploy military-style SWAT teams for routine police activities.

    They’re basically merging local police forces into the US military creating a standing army on US soil, precisely what the Founding Fathers inveighed against. Insane….

    • seawolf77 June 16, 2015 at 9:12 am #

      When the populace is armed, you must be better armed.

  50. Pucker June 15, 2015 at 7:11 pm #

    According to the book “Clinton Cash”, as part of the Clinton Foundation’s “Relief Effort” to help earthquake devastated Haiti, Bill and Hillary were instrumental in using US taxpayer money to build a sweatshop garment factory in Haiti operated by a Korean garment manufacturer. The Koreans got duty-free access to the US market. Clinton crony corporations got lucrative no bid US government infrastructure and temporary housing contracts for defective buildings in Haiti. Bill Clinton got huge speaking fees. The Haitians got Fucked.

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    • seawolf77 June 16, 2015 at 9:11 am #

      Beware of philanthropists bearing gifts.

  51. Buck Stud June 15, 2015 at 7:37 pm #

    Too bad Bernie Sanders is not electable because he really would be good for this country. And why do I say he’s not electable? Because we are a nation of dumb shits, truth be told.

    Case in point: Yesterday, on a very hot afternoon I witnessed a traffic jam of people waiting in endless car lines in order to go to an amusement park. Does anybody really believe morons such as these even know who Bernie Sanders is or what he is espousing?

    I predict that Hillary will win because women are going to vote for her big time: it’s “their time” is the line of reasoning, although it goes far beyond reason and enters a visceral place more akin to ‘women’s intuition’.

    Anyway, Bernie Sanders is an American Hero. Read how he speaks the truth about the cancer of our society:


    • ZrCrypDiK June 15, 2015 at 8:59 pm #

      “I predict that Hillary will win because women are going to vote for her big time”

      Ain’t that the truth. And as Janos said last week, 50% of them are on anti-psychotics/anti-depressants (bipolar/depression), and have moved from the ‘narcissist’ realm smack-dab into *sociopathy*.

      What emotions? Heh – Janos pointed that one out to me. Fsk’n racist turd. 🙂

      I’ll still vote for Jill if Bernie gets “dogged.”

      • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2015 at 12:27 am #

        Jill Stein? Again? How many Jews are running? Why not Harriet Myers? Or even Judge Judy? Imagine they are all chasing you down the street, with you in your pyjamas.

        I think I the report said a quarter of American women are on psych meds. I extrapolated and said another quarter should be. Thanks for assuming I was right. Don’t hate me for being right – or beautiful. That is simply the first duty of a National Socialist.

    • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2015 at 1:13 am #

      He’s also a Vermont Yankee, with deep roots in New England, roots that go all the way back to the Plymouth Colony.

      You can tell by the accent.

      I heard him make an impromptu speech once in Warren, VT, imploring Vermont to secede from the ‘fascist United States’.

      Just the kind of forward thinking we want in the White House, not a lot different from the guy in there now.


      • malthuss June 16, 2015 at 10:52 pm #

        Is BS an ‘open borders anti American’?
        He bloviates on NPR w Thom Hartmann.

  52. BackRowHeckler June 15, 2015 at 9:19 pm #

    Jim, pretty good ‘summing up’ of events in Ukraine. Honestly, I
    hadn’t been able to make much sense of what was going on over there. Still, I don’t think the Russians are the good guys here, either. Its Real Politik at play; there are no good guys, just power.

    i see that the Russians and Chinese have cracked some kind of code Snowden was carrying with him and are now able to identify British and american agents and assets operating in those countries. If Snowden wasn’t a Russian agent to begin with, all hope of him ever returning here are gone, ‘specially if these agents are targeted for murder or persecution. He’s being debriefed by the FSB every single day in moscow, every single waking hour belongs to Russian intelligence. Depending on how much damage has been done, and if our disputes with Russia turn hot, Snpwden might go down as the worst traitor the US ever produced.

    As for Bush and Clinton, like Hollywood, we just keep recycling the past, no new ideas, even the actors are the same. Its hard to believe in a nation of 315 million this is the best we can do, specially at a time when real ledership and new ideas are whats needed.


  53. Dumbedup June 15, 2015 at 9:58 pm #

    Jesus, this is getting pathetic. Who are these idiots pandering to? Are there really that many people out there who do not see the truth about our so-called two party system? There’s no real difference between Hillary and Jeb. They are just the figureheads for two camps vying for the same outcome. Force the world to accept the export of our financialization empire to artificially maintain the demand for dollars just a little while longer. One does it by catering to our baser instincts pretending to carry the mantle of small government conservatism and traditional family values (anti-gay and anti-abortion) and the other does it with neo-liberal mumbo jumbo pretending to be in favor of equality and justice. It amazes me that they can both lie and how many people will fall right in line.

    • capt spaulding June 16, 2015 at 8:39 am #

      Quite right, Dumbedup. Some people know what is going on, but the question is, is it enough? We’ll know more about whats going to happen when the Koch brothers have decided how it will be. I’m repeating myself, but it’s worth repeating. After the Republicans came very close to destroying the country, we kicked them out. Now here we are 8 years later, and they’re knocking on the door again with the same bullshit ideas. They never stopped and they never will. But don’,t worry, this time it will be different.

  54. Pucker June 15, 2015 at 11:28 pm #

    We may be in an avalanche situation wherein people start to say: “See, it’s keeps snowing on the mountain, but we’re still ok! What are all of these Doomer Cassandra’s worried about?!”

  55. Q. Shtik June 15, 2015 at 11:35 pm #

    Hey Buck Stud,

    Cat got your tongue?

    Yesterday at 3:45PM (last week’s thread) you wrote a comment mentioning Scott Walker, etc. I replied to that post at 9:33PM. Did you see it and, if so, what are your thoughts.

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    • Buck Stud June 15, 2015 at 11:44 pm #

      Hey Q,

      I’ll take a look at it tomorrow sometime and get back with you…too tired now.

  56. Pucker June 15, 2015 at 11:44 pm #


  57. Pucker June 16, 2015 at 1:02 am #

    George W. bush, Jr., like his dad, went to Philips Andover. Jeb went to Philips Exeter.

  58. Pucker June 16, 2015 at 2:04 am #

    In the recording of his last speech to his congregation in Jonestown, Reverend Jones was so fucked up on pharmaceutical drugs that he spoke with a lisp as he exhorted his mostly negro followers to commit “Revolutionary Thoo-i-thide.”

  59. Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2015 at 3:16 am #

    People vote with their feet – or their boats. Immigrating to Europe is a vote for White Supremacy. Who are we to disappoint the Brown and Blacks by letting them rule us? They already had self rule – that’s what they’re running from.


    • dannyboy June 16, 2015 at 6:31 am #


      What does your ranting have to do with Kunstler’s essay?

      You know, don’t you, that you are a Commentor on Kunstler’s blog. This is not The Daily Stormer. Get a grip!

      here’s the latest from your fav:

      “Bombala on Black Africans are Genetically Closer to Bonobos Than to White Humans”


      • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2015 at 3:19 pm #

        What’s wrong with that? I haven’t read it yet but many have pointed out that Blacks are as different from us as wolves are from dogs and more different than Chimps are from Bonobos – even though these can interbreed with each other and produce viable offspring. Thus Black or Ethiopian Jews will be the end of your Race unless you stop them.

        • dannyboy June 16, 2015 at 3:37 pm #


          I am now preparing to appeal to Kunstler’s better nature. I expect you will be gone, or I will. I will not continue in a forum that you belong to. I expect that there are many here who feel the same way.

          • elysianfield June 16, 2015 at 9:26 pm #

            My way or the Highway? Oh Dannyboy, I suggest you show a bit of tolerance…you sound like a book-burner. Revel in the diversity…who amongst the readership wants a steady diet of Politically-correct pabulum? The pipes, the pipes are callin’….

          • dannyboy June 16, 2015 at 9:44 pm #

            you have opened my eyes. you and Janos.

          • malthuss June 16, 2015 at 10:54 pm #

            And? If you go, so?

          • dannyboy June 17, 2015 at 2:28 pm #

            Then you will have encouraged Janos to continue disrupting Kunstler’s site with his links to The Daily Stormer and the like.

            Then you will enable Janos to continue his racist rants, posing as scientific evidence that Blacks will be the end of my race (I interpret this to mean Caucasion Race, but, with Janos it might have something to do with the Jewish religion.

            Just read the thread, it’s not long. You will see why allowing anything goes is not freedom, but in this case, a race (get it?) to the bottom.

          • elysianfield June 18, 2015 at 6:30 pm #

            Well, Dannyboy, we are mostly adults on this site, and can form our own opinions. I think you fear and loath Janos, as he does not fit your comfortable perception of a Nazi as an inarticulate, jack-booted thug, who could not, with his immediate family, field a full set of dentures. You hold your Jewish heritage closely, and that is fine, but you will have to address Janos, who’s intelligence you cannot dismiss…and who’s ability to express himself on the written page far surpasses your own. Step up the rhetoric a notch, and defend your beliefs, instead of calling for his (metaphorical) execution.

          • dannyboy June 18, 2015 at 7:28 pm #


            You admiration for Janos speaks volumes.

            You, not so well.

            He (and you by association) respond with Nazi Rhetoric to every post.

            This is eloquence?

            or spewed hatred intended to close down every comment. Go hijack another blog.

          • elysianfield June 19, 2015 at 10:44 am #

            You want someone removed from this site because he removes you from your comfort zone. Janos pushes your buttons, and gets the desired response. Do I admire Janos? I don’t know him. Do I respect his ability with the written word, the, classical references? Yes. Would I like to be able to write as well? Yes. Am I a National Socialist? No. I also enjoy Fincal’s posts. Am I a Russian Nationalist or a Communist? No. You use the term “hate” as a weapon, it is very easy to marginalize one who is a “hater”…he or she can be dismissed without argument. Oh, by the way, I am Jewish by lineage but I don’t embrace the culture.

          • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 12:28 pm #


            No, I want someone removed from this site because the are destructive to humans.

            Janos pushes hate.

            You are welcome to choose Jewish culture or not. That is the strength inherent.

            Keep enabling Janos, that’s your best of what you have..
            I prefer to enjoy my fellow humans.

  60. BackRowHeckler June 16, 2015 at 4:26 am #

    Is it still ok to talk about petroleum on this site, ha?

    Read an article this week in WSJ claiming world oil consumption is coming up against 94 million bpd, and producers are not having any trouble meeting demand. Indeed, since TLE was published in 2005 the world has burned up over 300 billion barrels of oil. The article also predicted that demand will rise to 120 million bpd by 2040. (2040 is the benchmark year now, like 2000 was decades ago, like “New York will be under water by 2000”, or “Snow will be a thing of the past by 2000”, “There will be mass starvation by 2000” etc. Now all that stuff is going to happen bt 2040.)


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    • seawolf77 June 16, 2015 at 9:05 am #

      It’s like getting the documents for JFK, just keep pushing it back.

    • Being There June 16, 2015 at 9:11 am #

      Yes, The US is crowing about being the biggest oil and gas producer in the world. Yes in order to keep the Europeans in line they are saying that we can replace Russia and will deliver on furnishing their every energy need.
      What will the North American continent look like….that is if we could possibly fulfill that promise?

      • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2015 at 11:17 am #

        BT, we are near the top as far as pumping oil, this is true.

        But we still only produce a little over 1/2 half of what we need to keep this place going at current consumption rates.


  61. Pucker June 16, 2015 at 7:11 am #

    The US government is totalitarian. Its influence reaches into everything. Its influence is total. It influences education, the media, the economy, our emails, our churches, our telephone conversations. Its power is unlimited.

    • Being There June 16, 2015 at 9:08 am #

      Surprisingly Pope Francis sees this and is making it loud and clear.

      What I’m hoping is even the elite know that what’s happening has no future. Let’s hope they want to undo the damages peacefully.

  62. Being There June 16, 2015 at 9:22 am #

    Here’s a very simple fact.

    Hillary and Obama and the rest of the Globalists in both parties cannot possibly protect the interest of the American labor force in both blue and white collar jobs for one reason and one reason only.

    You simply can’t be a Neoliberal and a progressive at the same time!

    Globalist Neoliberals means–free and unfettered trade with no tariffs— on incoming goods and no regulations.

    You can’t believe this and extol the rights of workers in a given nation state. (even Adam Smith of the “Invisible Hand of the market knew this)

    Ideas working at cross purposes and they never meet.

    You can promise them anything on the political pulpit, but you will give them serfdom….

    • dannyboy June 16, 2015 at 9:28 am #

      They talk liberal but act neoliberal.

      That is the deception I began the Comments with.

      lies, damn lies.

    • Therian June 16, 2015 at 9:59 am #

      In using the “We have to vote this in or we’ll collapse” scare tactic, it seems that it’s perpetually going to be 2008 when “We have to bail out the bankers” was the falsehood du jour. Everything that the globalists want that’s in danger of not being enacted is catastrophized.

      The irony, of course, is that the real catastrophes are the constant fear mongering of politicians when you don’t save inept members of their “caste” because those “caste” members are the titans of various industries who’ve gotten obscenely rich by being incompetent.

      “Too big to fail” doesn’t just mean bailouts but RAISES for the inept. Meanwhile, I doubt that ordinary people fear for their jobs more than now. They’re feet are held to the fire.

      • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2015 at 11:11 am #

        ‘Big Fear’ suddenly in CT about impending job losses.

        Last week huge and arbitrary taxes suddenly levied on ‘business and industry’, destabilizing the whole system. Governor has a veto proof (Democratic) majority, in fact got elected hammering business as ‘greedy and insensitive’. Now insurance giants like Aetna and Cigna targets of hostile take over attempts by out of state companies, Colt filing bankruptcy, UTC cutting loose Sikorsky helo, GE clearing out, and that’s just for starters.

        More casinos are being built even tho casinos have been losing money for years. State heavily into gambling, and now marijuana. All they have to do now is start pimping out young girls and they’ll have a perfect trifecta on vice, anything to keep the massive welfare state operating awhile longer, and most importantly, remain in power as far into the future as possible.

        Last night a body found lying in the middle of the street on Albany Avenue in Hartford, full of bullet holes. This in a state where 1st graders have been expelled from school for drawing a picture in art class of a gun.

        Civilization is in full retreat, here in the Constitution State.


        • malthuss June 16, 2015 at 10:55 pm #

          What about moving? Why stay?

          • BackRowHeckler June 17, 2015 at 7:31 am #

            Malthus, we bought a place in northern New Mexico earlier in the year; some of the family is there now. Have to hold on to this place however, we’ve been here many generations and it can’t be this generation that lets it slip away, specially for political reasons.

            There’s always hope that things might turn around here too, tho right now that’s looking pretty unlikely. At some point this welfare state will become untenable, like the dinosaur that puts on too much bulk and can no longer move, so just dies on the spot.


        • Therian June 16, 2015 at 10:59 pm #

          I see the largest welfare state as the one that was put in place in the Great Recession of 2008 to allow inept bankers, financiers, and auto execs to keep their jobs. That was the beginning of the largest fund transfer in world history as the inflation-adjusted wages of Americans have dropped by a whopping 9% since 2007 according to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis. Despite this, the number of US billionaires is going hyperbolic.

          Since most goods producing industries are increasingly moving to China, India, and other countries, the USA is left with high tech (which is about 90% total bullshit), casinos, the financial services industry (which is suffering from diminished trading volumes), and the “real estate-industrial” complex. The USA is playing a kind of shell game where we keep pimping these industries in rotation to give the appearance of “economic activity”.

          Of course, there is still the problem that corporations, corrupt or inessential or not, give people jobs. To that end, states like CA, OR, and CT that have punitive attitudes about corporations end up “winning” philosophical arguments that chase companies to TX and AZ and FL and the jobs leave too.

          • BackRowHeckler June 17, 2015 at 7:23 am #

            Therian your last paragraph pretty much nails it.

            I’m reminded of what Orwell said about the coal mines in the north of England (in the 1920s), and the destructive effect they had on the environment and on the people who worked in them, to paraphrase, “The only thing worse than working in these coal mines is not having any coal mines to work in.”

            These industries and corporations in trouble now in the past have backed the progressive policies of the current Governor, or at least have given the appearance of doing so.

            When the rubber meets the road, tho, and it affects the bottom line, they’re outa here!


          • Therian June 17, 2015 at 2:16 pm #

            To BRH because one flaw of this blog is that only a certain number of “replies” are allowed until no “reply” button appears below a person’s post. Yup, Orwell was right. However, I hope you read the other two paragraphs of my post as well as that last paragraph.

            As long as corporations don’t suckle at the public teat as they did after the Great Recession, I don’t have a philosophical bias against them. However, they do just that and have for a very long time. This form of socialism keeps bad management entrenched and ultimately reduces our competitiveness.

        • malthuss June 17, 2015 at 10:31 am #

          Knives? You mentioned Knives?

          From ‘Zero Hedge’,

          Knife Regulation Arrives: This Is The US Government, Hard At Work
          Submitted by Tyler Durden on 06/16/2015 – 23:22

          S. 1315 would allow people to possess knives in states where they are illegal if the person is travelling to and from states where the knife is legal, if the knife is secured, or if the knife is a safety blade designed for cutting seatbelts. Based on information provided by the Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission, etc………………

      • volodya June 16, 2015 at 12:29 pm #

        The Druid, on his blog, has been outlining what he sees as a multi-stage process of collapse that he distills from his reading of history and current events. The rationale being that history may not repeat but it sure does rhyme.

        So, it’s not rocket science. Reasonable people would conclude, just from looking around, that what we have now can’t go on. It has got to end. But reasonable people may differ as to HOW this ends.

        So, how do you figure this ends? Long term, shambolic dissolution a la Druid? Or out-of-the-blue black swan calamity?

  63. FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2015 at 9:52 am #

    Hillary Clinton in her speech that officially started her election campaign, said the following:

    «People all over the world have asked me: „How could you and President Obama work together after you fought so hard against each other in that long campaign?“ Now, that is an understandable question considering that in many places, if you lose an election you could get imprisoned or exiled — even killed — not hired as Secretary of State»

    In contrast to the enthusiastic fans of Hillary Clinton, supporting her in one of the best parks in New York, those who support her with concrete actions, both in Middle East as well as in the European theater of operations, interpreted these words as an alternative to her victorious election campaign.

    Many of them are thinking that the electric chair, prison and exile may be the price that they will have to pay for their execution of her orders, against the orders of President Obama.

    These thoughts have visited Hillary Clinton’s supporters as a result of such an impressive start of her election campaign, especially considering that the main problem of US foreign policy in recent years has been the weakening of the Institution of US Presidency, and direct doubts that the US President controls the US foreign policy.

    For example, the president of the United States prohibits the export of weapons to Ukraine, and it is still there. President of the United States offers to restart relations with Russia and unfortunate results of such “reset” we are seeing now in the Ukraine. Or the US president refused to provide arms to Syrian rebels, who are at the same time Islamic State militants and not only do they get weapons from armories in Libya captured by Islamists, but also captures several thousand American armored vehicles and many other heavy weapons in Mosul.

    And the first step to the restoration of the authority of the United States in the world is the need to restore the Institution of US Presidency in its entirety.

    In particular, the need for world politics to exit from the nosedive it recently found itself in involves adopting at least some treaties and contracts, which in turn implies negotiations between United States and those who Hillary Clinton announced as outcasts deprived of the soul.

    And what can be negotiated with the State whose foreign policy is put up for auction and it run by the “invisible hand of the market”?

    And at this stage, the matter has gone so far that unless President Obama or his successor conducts exemplary purges of apparatus, even including sending people to electric chair or hard prison terms there will be no other means to get US officials to carry out orders of the President.

    However, in the event that Hillary Clinton becomes next US President everybody will rush to fulfill her orders, remembering the fate of the enemies of the First Lady of the United States in the 90s.

    But, firstly, such a delightful bloodless restoration of state discipline would be extremely short-lived, and, secondly, it is unlikely, as the elite of the United States is clearly not satisfied with the choice between the electric chair and a dozen years in the Nuclear Fallout shelters, the choice that was presented to them by Hillary Clinton in the park of Franklin Delano Roosevelt.


  64. Tree Hugger June 16, 2015 at 10:40 am #

    “Russia must respect the sovereignty of all of its neighbors. And who can doubt that Russia will do what it pleases if its aggression goes unanswered” – Jeb

    The fact that these over-the-top hypocritical, Orwellian, and absurd rants can be spewed by our “leaders” without a *lot* laughter and ridicule amazes me. I’ve lost count of how many countries the U.S. has either destroyed, helped destroy, supported a coup, or otherwise rejected their sovereignty.
    The worst part, is that recent U.S. aggression has been “justified” by an absurd and impossible fairy tale conspiracy myth. 9-11 was not masterminded by a man living in a cave thousands of miles away or carried out by nine alcohol drinking, stripper fondling, coke snorting devote Muslims with box cutters. They could not have shut down NORAD or rigged WTC7 and the twin towers with nanothermite.
    9-11 was the “New Pearl Harbor” desired by the Bush regime. We need to bring that monumental government fraud and crime to light in order to stop what’s following it..
    JHK, I was surprised to see you write that Russia “seized” Crimea. I was under the impression that the Crimean People overwhelmingly voted to become part of Russia again. Is that wrong?

    • Being There June 16, 2015 at 10:52 am #

      You are right about all you posed. Crimea is Russia and is populated by Russians that’s why they voted to remain Russia.

      Oddly I was watching Morning Joe and even Zbigniew said that Crimea was Russia’s southern port and we should let them keep it.

      I guess the Cops of the World arbitrate everything on earth, so we decree that Russia can keep it’s southern port. How big of us.

      • Therian June 17, 2015 at 9:20 pm #

        I’ve been chuckling about Crimea since that dust-up happened. Crimea was Russia for about 1000 years out of the last 1050. The Soviet Union made Crimea part of the Ukraine when the Ukraine was USSR so it made little difference which country it belonged to.

        After all is said and done after 70 years after WWII, the world’s true imperialists are the USA. Can there be any doubt? The list of countries we’ve invaded and/or bombed is truly incredible but here ’tis from the top of my head: 1) Iraq, 2) Bosnia/Serbia, 3) Panama, 4) Grenada, 5) Vietnam, 6) Laos, 7) Cambodia, 8) Korea, 9) Libya, 10) Nigeria (limited excursions against rebel factions threatening oil fields), and 11) Afghanistan. Forgive me if I’ve forgotten one or two.

        As a young man, I bought all of the jingoistic rhetoric that came out of Washington to back up all these forays, most of which was “liberation speak”. There isn’t a country on earth that can approach this number of invasions and/or bombings. No wonder we’re so damned broke!! And when we had problems with Assad in Syria, even the Democrats like Schumer were lobbying to go in there and bomb them as well.

        Disdain for the USA in Europe, I can assure you, has never been worse than it is now. Little wonder that Germany is quietly edging toward doing business in yuan and rubles. The demise of King Dollar is a question of when, not if. Many of our alliances, like that with the House of Saud, are ridiculously hypocritical given how repressive that regime is. Remember when our soldiers amassed in Saudi weren’t allowed to have a beer because of Saudi laws?

        Our isolation between two oceans used to be a huge benefit but it also means we’re farther than anyone else from our meaningful allies. The USA … is Gomorrah.

  65. Q. Shtik June 16, 2015 at 12:25 pm #

    as a lifelong rich-fuck – Rollie


    Rollie, in your world is everyone who is rich a “rich-fuck”?

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  66. saharasergei June 16, 2015 at 1:09 pm #

    Millard Fillmore? That’s an insult to the thirteenth President. Fillmore probably accomplished more in a term of just under three years than most two-full-term Presidents after Eisenhower accomplished in eight. One historian said that Fillmore might have been judged as a great President had he served in a different time, but he had the bad luck of serving as President in the early 1850s and is counted as mediocre because of what he DIDN’T and COULDN’T accomplish. I count on Hillary or Jeb to be more mediocre even in the best of times.

  67. Q. Shtik June 16, 2015 at 1:17 pm #

    I practice the Jewish religion. – dannyboy


    Out of curiosity, at what level of orthodoxy, or non-orthodoxy do you practice the Jewish religion?

    For example: Can you, or do you, eat bacon and eggs with no qualms? What about in the presence of other Jews?

    Or are you on the other end of the spectrum? You won’t flip a light switch after sundown on Friday’s. You own a Sabbath-ready refrigerator. (For those who may not know, this type fridge is programmed with a timer for all Sabbaths so that when the door is opened on the Sabbath the interior light does not turn on.) You pre-tear toilet tissue prior to the start of the Sabbath. Each of the above and many many more actions are done to avoid the admonition against working on the Sabbath. Yes, fellow non-Jews, tearing off some toilet paper to wipe your ass on the Sabbath is a no-no. What about the Mikvah (sp?). Does your wife go to the Mikvah at the required times/intervals? And what about the Eruv, usually a wire run around an entire community representative of a wall which if cut or broken restricts Jews from certain activities? Do you give a hoot whether the Eruv is broken?

    • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2015 at 3:11 pm #

      They also use Shabbos Goys (Sabbath Dirt – nice, eh?) to do these things for them. I heard a rumor that Colin Powell comes from Shabbos Goys.

      On the plus side (for them) such discipline can be admirable. And they really do use the time to strengthen family and community ties – something we could benefit from. I watched some Hasids coming out of their Synagogue in Brookline, Ma. Completely at peace, not hurrying to their cars but calmly strolling to their homes within walking distance – like lions. They were where they wanted to be and with whom they wanted to be.

      Admiring the Enemy is an Aryan trait, though others, such as the American Indians were capable of it as well. The Enemy doesn’t cease to be the Enemy of course.

      • dannyboy June 16, 2015 at 3:44 pm #


        Our families are our treasure. We walk together on Shabbos to enjoy each other.

        I don’t envy you.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2015 at 10:50 pm #

          That’s what I just said. I admire your people in some ways. It’s Jews who can’t admire their enemies at all.

          Colin Powell is a tool. He was used (and made into a fool) during the WMD debate in the Iraq debacle.

          Is he a Shabbos Goy then? Can he speak Yiddish?

      • dannyboy June 16, 2015 at 4:07 pm #


        I grew up with Colin Powell (in The Bronx).

        You can’t lick his shoes hater.

    • dannyboy June 16, 2015 at 3:42 pm #

      I’m a vegetarian who lives in the most expensive neighborhood in NYC with an Eruv.

      You are THE ONLY PERSON NOT WELCOME. We are decent here. No hate towards other races is encouraged. Kinda shits up your mind.

  68. Q. Shtik June 16, 2015 at 1:37 pm #


    I’d like to clear up a loose end from last week’s thread…and this time I’ll be direct.

    Are you either a female or a gay male?

    Of course, if you feel answering honestly would somehow impair your anonymity, don’t respond.

  69. Q. Shtik June 16, 2015 at 2:22 pm #

    I’m surprised no one yet has mentioned that an hour or so ago Donald Trump announced he’s running for president. This man with an unquenchable ego is such an ass. He cannot speak without throwing in a brag line every minute or two. Too bad. It is such a turn off to normal human beings.

    But even so, he is a more powerful and charismatic speaker than the weak and fawning Jeb. Yesterday Jeb was preparing to speak before an obviously hand-selected audience. I looked up from my computer monitor to my muted TV and Jeb had just arrived at the podium. The hand-selected crowd was cheering wildly. For a good two or three minutes the crowd cheered. I read Jeb’s lips saying “thank you” several times as he smiled, hunched his shoulders slightly and cocked his head self-deprecatingly to one side. How sickening.

    That was all I needed to see to know that I could never vote for this man…just as I knew within one minute of watching Bill Clinton speak back in the ’90s, I could never vote for him. The biting of the lower lip, which I guess was supposed to convey great sincerity, was the killer.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2015 at 3:15 pm #

      Trump’s an ass – with great ideas. No one else is willing to talk about our abysmal trade deficit with China. The tariff is a Nation Builder. Lack of them is a Nation destroyer. My question: Can he be trusted? Gigantic Ego could be accepted if he had integrity. But of course such Ego tends to work against integrity – though it is no bar to intellectual brilliance per se.

      A meme is spreading like wild fire: October 20th it all falls down. The World adopts the Yuan as the reserve currency. What have you heard and what do you think?

      • dannyboy June 16, 2015 at 3:45 pm #

        I’ve heard from many others here that you are poisoning the site.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2015 at 10:53 pm #

          Are you Orthodox then? What do you think of Dersh going to Orgy Island with Epstein and Clinton?

          Epstein’s sex slave (blonde and beautiful) said he didn’t want any Black sex slaves. A discriminating “gentleman”.

          • malthuss June 16, 2015 at 10:59 pm #

            Thats a bias, not racism.

          • dannyboy June 18, 2015 at 10:39 am #

            For Janos, EVERYTHING IS RACE. He harps on Jewish race.

            It is misguided but simplistic, that we he can judge a person by their racial characteristics.

            It is the most primitive of a hate systems. Hating and fearing someone because they come from another part of the word.

            Imagine primitive seeing and fearing their first person they’ve encountered from a different part of the world. That’s Janos, it’s just that he’s formed his mind that way. Can’t even see a human as a person.

            I have suggested that he keep out of humanity. Might help him.

      • elysianfield June 16, 2015 at 9:10 pm #

        I understand that one of the lynch-pins of the dollar’s continuing hegemony is the deal struck between Nixon and the House of Saud, that being oil to be sold by the Saudi’s for dollars exclusively, in exchange for the US guaranteeing Saudi borders, relatively unlimited sales of arms, and a further guarantee that the US would guarantee the Saud family’s reign. I would expect the dollar to remain the reserve currency until Saudi Arabia reneges or until Saudi oil becomes a secondary source for the majority of the industrialized world.

        The short answer to your question is that the smart money will know with ample time to adjust…the unwashed…not so much….

        • malthuss June 17, 2015 at 10:33 am #

          Adam Smith [not the AS from the 1700s] has a few books,
          ‘Money’ and one about OPEC, written in the 1970s.
          Maybe ‘Paper Money’?
          The wealth transfer.

          • elysianfield June 17, 2015 at 11:07 am #

            “Adam Smith” wrote “Paper Money” and “The Money Game”, amongst others. I have read them both several times and would recommend them as informative and enjoyable.

    • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2015 at 4:21 pm #

      Hey Q, what’s your opinion of Scott Walker?

      Recently found out he never graduated from college, a plus IMO, would be the first Pres. since Truman to have that honor.

      After Truman left political life he went back home, drove around Independence, Mo in an old Ford Sedan, visiting neighbors and buying ice cream cones, no big $$$ foundations, no $500,000 speeches, no private aircraft, no limos.

      (Can somebody tell me why the biggest Global Warming Pols have the biggest private jets, and always arrive in a Limo with tinted windows?)


      • malthuss June 16, 2015 at 11:00 pm #

        And the Obamas will fly in private jets and sneer at people.

        I CHING

  70. meargen June 16, 2015 at 3:26 pm #

    I was listening to Craig Hulett on Coast to Coast a couple of months ago. He’s a security advisor, and said that the presidential choices were decided years ago. He predicts the race will be between Hilary and Jeb Bush, and also predicts Hilary is slated to lose. He said she’s just got too much baggage.
    Also, he said ‘if Bush gets elected, the country will blow up,’ and says the government is prepared for that by stockpiling ammo.
    Also, Craig said the next banking crisis will involve no more bail outs. It will be a bail in…that is, peoples assets, savings, and pensions will be confiscated to make up for any losses.

    It’s always funny about Hilary (and Bill). Everyone goes on about their corruption and taking moola from foreign governments, but no one ever mentions the number of people who died connected with the Clintons. Remember all the ‘suicides’ and ‘accidental deaths’ when they were in office? It’s downright dangerous getting close to those two.
    But a lot of you voted for them, and a lot of people just love them. It’s like in the BBC series I CLAUDIUS, where Tiberius, after listening to Caligula, gleefully decides to make him his successor.
    ‘Rome deserves you,’ he smiles.
    As for Bush, he registered as an Hispanic at one time. There really is no subtlety anymore about where the leadership wants to take us.

    Russia? It’s really none of our business, and I fear countries like Poland trying to suck up to NATO in order to wrangle benefits. The Neocons can’t wait to go to war. They tried to drum it up with Iran, but after years in Iraq and Afghanistan, the public is tapped out.
    The war party…Neocons, military brass and contractors, and the percentage of flag wavers they can talk into fighting the wars…seem to want a war somewhere. Aside from war and movies, I can’t think of any other products we export.

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    • malthuss June 16, 2015 at 11:01 pm #

      Also, he said ‘if Bush gets elected, the country will blow up,’ and says the government is prepared for that by stockpiling ammo.

      When there is no bread at the circus, things will blow up.

  71. FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2015 at 5:41 pm #

    Did the Queen of Chaos, Hillary Clinton, almost provoke the Japanese-Russian war?

    Taking the words of Obama “Don’t do stupid shit policy” personally, Hillary Clinton drew attention to the fact that, firstly, the US president is not very delighted with her activity as Secretary of State. Secondly, the fact that she got the job as a result of the election deal and, accordingly, during the first term of Obama defined US foreign policy independently, without regard for the opinion of the US President.

    In 2011 Hillary nearly provoked a war between Russia and Japan, and only the earthquake, the tsunami and the accident at the nuclear power plant “Fukushima” saved the poor Japanese people from the consequences of her appeal to take the Kuril Islands away from Russia by military force with the full military support of the United States.

  72. nsa June 16, 2015 at 6:33 pm #

    TokeUpTommie subjected you to a burst of GayBonics….which is the answer to your question……..

  73. Pucker June 16, 2015 at 7:03 pm #

    I wonder if it’s possible to have a situation in which US government power generally becomes totalitarian in that it reaches into all corners of American life and even influences people’s emails, conversations, and family and personal relationships, but that US government power is so diffuse that no one ultimately is in charge and no one is responsible? In effect, the US government becomes akin to a pathological serial killer who has multiple conflicting voices in his head?

  74. Pucker June 16, 2015 at 7:08 pm #

    “We need to give more power to the US government in order to protect black people from white people.”

    “We need to give more power to the US government and militarized local police in order to protect us from the rampaging, rioting black horde.”

    “We need to give more power to the US government in order for women to be equal with men.”

    “We need to give more power to the US government so that gays, lesbians, and transgenders can be equal.”

    “We need to give more power to the US government in order to protect us from the evil terrorists.”

  75. Tango Smurfen June 17, 2015 at 12:49 am #

    Did the american colonies have the right to revolt against their legal goverment?
    The ukrainians revolted against a corrupt president. Ukrain is poor because of corruption and of no other reason.

    Was the American revolution a coup de etat directed by the king of France?
    Was the french revolution a coup de etat directed by George Washington (and his agent Layfaytte?)

    Hitler started war because he had given himself the right to protect all germans living abroad and to conquer all land they lived at. Hitler wanted nothing more than to retake what used to be Germany and the land that was won in WWI. Why was he not left alone?

    Putler is the greatest danger to peace and prosperity in the world. His core values are corruption and crime. Do you seriusly suggest that the people of Ukrain (and the rest of Europe) silently goes in under serfdom under this man. (Serfs are the same as slavery but serfs can not be sold away from their master)

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    • Janos Skorenzy June 17, 2015 at 3:26 am #

      Well said. But it must be said that He coveted the lands of the Slavs even beyond the German sphere established by the Prussians.

      • Tango Smurfen June 17, 2015 at 7:31 am #

        Hitler wanted nothing more than the Sudetenland.
        Putler wants nothing more than Crimea
        Hitler went on to demand Danzig
        Putler goes on to demand Mariopol

        Hitler claimed the right to start war to protect germans outside Germany and bein them Heim ins Reich
        Putler claimed the right to start war to protect russian who lives outside of Russia and being them Heim ins Reich

        • AKlein June 17, 2015 at 8:41 am #

          Sie ist keine Schandtat, eigenes Volk zu beschützen.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 17, 2015 at 1:55 pm #

          Oh no, they wanted far more. They needed “lebensraum”. Also the Godlike Aryan Race began deep in Asia. They (We?) needed to go there and find them or at least live there too – just as Jews “needed” to go back to Palestine. The Slavs were going to be Slaves in their own lands.

          Likewise, Eastern Europe has legitimate fears about Putin – who evidently wants to reestablish the Soviet Union. Russian White Nationalists can’t stand him because he doesn’t really value Russia and Russians per se. He wants to merge them with Asia as per the theories of Dugin – a Rasputin type madman.

          But being in the Russian Sphere might be better than becoming part of the EU – and being forced to accept millions of Blacks and Muslims. Nothing is worse than that. Hopefully these countries can find a middle path between the Super Power, one where the retain their own sovereignty, culture, and ethnic dominance.

        • Therian June 18, 2015 at 5:44 am #

          Hilarious. We’ve invaded/bombed ELEVEN countries in the postwar era and ten of those eleven were from the late 1960s ’til today. The ten after Korea I’ve listed above but they are: 1) Vietnam, 2) Laos, 3) Cambodia, 4) Grenada, 5) Panama, 6) Afghanistan, 7) Iraq, 8) Libya, 9) Bosnia/Serbia, and 10) Nigeria (surgical strikes against rebels threatening oil fields).

          The USSR and then Russia invaded Afghanistan and Crimea. And you’re speaking of “Putler”. Wow, this kind of jingoism is sophistry of the highest order.

  76. Janos Skorenzy June 17, 2015 at 3:21 am #


    Adios America. You blew it – believing people who hated you and mocking your own native Elite in favor of the vicious aliens amongst you.

  77. outsider June 17, 2015 at 5:25 am #

    To Mr. Kunstler: I read your well written rants weekly, have read several of your books, and enjoy many of the often very witty comments from your loyal readers. Just a humble suggestion, which no doubt you’ve heard before. If you’d add a thumbs up – thumbs down feature, it would make them more interesting and enlightening. I’d like to see where Janos stacks up.

    • dannyboy June 17, 2015 at 4:27 pm #

      as always, janos will interpret the avalanche of ‘thumbs down’ as an attack on the Caucasian Race. That’s the modus operandi that he hides behind to justify his hate spewing.

      But if someone else gets ‘thumbs up’…it’s a Conspiracy.

      • malthuss June 17, 2015 at 5:26 pm #

        You have taken it upon yourself to oppose Janos.
        How white of you.

        • dannyboy June 17, 2015 at 6:46 pm #

          I oppose a person named Janos.

          He (and you with this remark) hate groups and can’t see past that racism (and Jew-hating) to see the person.

  78. FincaInTheMountains June 17, 2015 at 5:44 am #

    “Putler is the greatest danger to peace and prosperity in the world. His core values are corruption and crime.” — Tango

    The US policy in Russia in the 90s, the policy of plunder and theft and corruption, has not only been recognized within Russian society, but also created a hard link “American liberalism equals theft and corruption.” For this reason, the US policy towards Russia (as in the US, apparently, people are not very aware), suffers from rigid internal contradictions. On the one hand, they demand of liberal reforms, on the other hand, by virtue of the general principles of democracy, support of such reforms by Russian society. And the Russian society, due to the experience of the last 25 years, considers the liberalism as corruption and theft, which it firmly opposes.

    The US has no chance of changing this attitude to their policy on the part of Russian society, unless they condemn their own team, which established corruption (through privatization) in Russia. If Larry Summers is not convicted for grand theft in Russia, since everyone who was involved in the privatization process, know that Minister of State Property Anatoly Chubais carried suitcases full of cash to Larry Summers, it is impossible to change the societal attitude.

    And until such time all arguments on “combating corruption” emanating from the United States will be considered as blatant lies and hypocrisy.

    • Tango Smurfen June 17, 2015 at 7:26 am #

      USA is suffering from corruption.
      That is little help for people in Ukrain who is fighting to build up their own society.

      Putin was appointet as president by Jeltsin because Putin was known for protecting the former Mayor of St Petersburg who was accused of corruption. Putin has made a carreer by being pro corruption.

      • FincaInTheMountains June 17, 2015 at 7:35 am #

        “USA is suffering from corruption”

        quod erat demonstrandum

  79. FincaInTheMountains June 17, 2015 at 6:31 am #

    Generally, corruption – this is very bad. There is only one thing that is even worse – when corrupt officials are beginning to “fight against corruption” for corrupt purposes. And we all see the results of such fight against corruption for the levers of power in Kiev. And for a quarter-century the United States was covering and supporting corruption, up until the time they decided to use their own corrupted allies as a sacrifice, a ram for rocking the world’s situation.

    However, more important is that the US not only cares about everyone, but everyone else start to care about US. So, the other day when the “Kaspersky Lab”, which defused a new and very expensive combat-ready computer virus, a proposal was made to start international investigation on the role of the “unnamed state” in the spread of computer viruses and launching of cyber-attacks through the “vulnerability” of Microsoft operating system.

    Coup in Kiev and war crimes in Donbass also could be a subject of international trial. And also, no doubt, not only Islamic State terrorist crimes will be investigated by the international community, but also the facts of complicity by certain state, creating the favorable conditions for and even the direct supply of the terrorist forces.

    And while we are at it, the International community could also investigate what happened to the film taken by American astronauts on the Moon as well as the fate of missing 900 pounds of lunar soil.

    No, I am not saying that Americans did not fly to the Moon, but only made a movie. But all of these scientific and cultural artifacts are the heritage of humanity, and its disappearance without a trace is our common loss. And the investigation will show.

  80. malthuss June 17, 2015 at 10:35 am #

    Kind of a follow up to Bruce Gender.

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    • elysianfield June 17, 2015 at 11:18 am #

      Well, it certainly is a “man bites dog” type of story….

      • Janos Skorenzy June 17, 2015 at 2:04 pm #

        Al contraire, it is illuminating in the highest degree. Dolezal was and is too alive to accept the 2nd class citizenship America holds out for Whites. She rejected the penitential role of caring for other races that her Missionary Parents taught her. The tone of her voice in the interview said it all: I’ve never identified as White – with her voice dripping with contempt as she said the word White.

        She’s being absolutely vicious to her parents, not only rejecting them but getting her own adopted brother to reject them as racists. But I see it as their own karma coming back to them. They taught her these values I assume – the values of submission and being part of a defeated race, one that must do penance for being not only historically evil, but intrinsically. PC Theology merges with Christian Theology about Man’s (Whites) fallen nature.. She’s far too alive or “vibrant” to accept such a life for herself. So since she can’t beat the Blacks, she decided to “be” them.

        • elysianfield June 17, 2015 at 4:10 pm #

          Well, “Man bites dog” in that the story is atypical…most everyone( even Elizabeth Warren) would proudly claim an Indian Heritage…I can’t remember hearing of a single example of another race, other than Black, proudly claiming a percentage of Black, or African blood…In my 69 years, this is a first.

          • dannyboy June 17, 2015 at 4:43 pm #

            No need to convince Janos that The Most Important Event in The World is Rachael Dolezal.

            Gets right to Race. He’ll get his teeth into the inferiority of the Black Race and the persecution of the Caucasian Race.

            I mean…whites persecuted; must be a Jewish Conspiracy!

          • malthuss June 17, 2015 at 5:25 pm #

            A Jewish gay guy.

            Lou Reed – I Wanna Be Black Lyrics | MetroLyrics.com


          • dannyboy June 17, 2015 at 6:51 pm #

            More lies, and damned lies.

            Leonard Cohen is heterosexual AND QUITE A LADIES MAN. Women love him.

            His song lyrics are poetic; sometimes takes a few years to compose. He’s only recorded 13 albums because the music is so uniquely his own.

            Hate him for being Jewish? Then don’t listen to his recordings and stop the lies, disparagement, and hate rant.

          • dannyboy June 17, 2015 at 7:12 pm #



            an antidote to hate links. Insight

          • Janos Skorenzy June 17, 2015 at 9:36 pm #

            I don’t hate Leonard Cohen. I like some of his stuff that I’ve heard, but I’ve only heard the hits. I don’t like his stuff enough to check out the rest. What was the song about Lemons in the morning with a woman’s name in the title? Suzanne? Beautiful.

            I more of a Bob Dylan type of guy. Now there’s a Jewish Bard. I love 60’s folk rock. Apropos of nothing except to annoy you: He once said he would crawl across the face of the Earth to kiss the feet of Maharaj Ji – a pudgy Hindu teenager. Later he became a Christian and may still be one. He’s had many visions and insights about Christ and the Devil. You too can be saved, Danny. But you have to renounce Talmudism.

            Anyway, you’ve already taken Manhattan. Next you’ll take Brazil.

          • dannyboy June 18, 2015 at 6:56 am #


            Don’t tell me to renounce the Talmud, hater.

            The Talmud educates man on how to live with others. It is a guide to bettering the world. Same message in the Vedas (which, it sounds like you abhor). Same in the Bible.

            You’re hating doesn;t even merit great literature. For you Mein Kamph says it all.

  81. wpa--ccc June 17, 2015 at 4:07 pm #

    Enter Jeb and Hil…. And the Donald. The Republican clown car now has a driver and he tells whoppers. Trump’s speech announcing he is running contained a number of false and misleading statements on the economy, trade, health care and terrorism:

    Trump claimed that economic growth has “never” been below zero until last quarter’s drop, which is far from true. It has been below zero 42 times since 1946.

    He said “there are no jobs” to be had. In fact, there were 5.4 million job openings recorded at the end of April, the most in 15 years.

    He said the “real” unemployment rate is “anywhere from 18 to 20 percent” and “maybe even 21 percent.” We see no factual basis for this opinion.

    He boasted he would have blocked new Ford plants in Mexico by threatening to impose a 35 percent tax on vehicles and parts made in Mexico and shipped to the U.S. But only Congress can impose taxes and such a tax would violate the North American Free Trade Agreement.

    Trump claimed the five Taliban leaders exchanged for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl “are now back on the battlefield trying to kill us.” But all five remain in Qatar, where they continue to be monitored and are subject to a travel ban, according to the State Department.

    He also made the misleading claim that health care premium costs are going “up 29, 39, 49 and even 55 percent.” He’s talking about some proposed rate increases on the individual market that still need regulatory approval. There are also proposed rate decreases or single-digit increases that did not have to be submitted for review.

    • Reagan June 18, 2015 at 7:24 am #

      Most media is/will push the message that Trump has no political experience. If everything you say is true, that he has lied about all of the above, then he is obviously a great politician. Time to get on board the Trump bandwagon.

      On a serious note, could he do any worse than any of the “experience” politicians (both parties) who have sent this once-great nation into the auto junkyard?

  82. BackRowHeckler June 17, 2015 at 6:07 pm #

    Therian, read your above, earlier post, thanks for the comeback.

    Also, keep on with those ‘inside baseball’ posts about Silicon Valley, which I find very interesting.


    • Therian June 18, 2015 at 5:51 am #

      Will do, BRH!! The longer I stay in Palo Alto, the more amazed I am at the truly surrealistic greed that permeates the place. And this town is two-thirds Democratic. I thought Democrats were the party of the “little guy”? At least the Republicans are honest about their money grubbing. Here in Greedville people can vote for Democrats and then turn around and shake small retailers down for $15/sq. ft. rents and residential tenants for $3500 for 800 square foot apartments that have absolutely no amenities whatsoever.

      I’ll be moving before 2016 but I’ll keep commenting on this sublimely nutty area until I leave.

  83. MisterDarling June 18, 2015 at 3:01 am #

    It’s interesting when people who seem to know better discuss people who don’t – and as if those people mattered. That’s all I’m interested in saying about the Empire of Fake and it’s machinations at this late date…

    Back in the Realm of the Relevant, there was this:


    Relevant in the sense that containerized freight by ship has “collapsed”… (see the following post).

  84. MisterDarling June 18, 2015 at 3:07 am #

    This is what’s happening to the “12,000-mile supply-line”;


    Based on the evidence above (SCFI) and the Baltic Dry Index (BDI), we can fairly say that global trade has ‘collapsed’.

    Oh, and don’t forget the announcement that “6,000” retail locations are set to close in the US & Canada.

    If this doesn’t signal the arrival of 2nd-Stage Collapse (Commercial Sector) nothing does…

    Be Aware.


    • Therian June 18, 2015 at 5:57 am #

      The BDI is an especially crucial indicator of global shipping activity. Of course, the reporting bureaus of the US government continue to play these “shell games” to try to make it appear that we have a vibrant economy. It’s impossible to have a vibrant economy when the median, inflation-adjusted wage has fallen 9% since the start of the great recession and this stat comes from the St. Louis Fed.

      That’s why I think of it as wry humor when an announcement of increased consumer spending is made. What does that mean aside from newly increasing consumer debt?

  85. FincaInTheMountains June 18, 2015 at 7:59 am #

    “Hence the two scenarios, the probability of each I do not presume to assess:

    1. The IMF is forced under US completely: the speed with which the world is approaching a massive conflict will increase many times

    2. Lagarde and its allies retain control of the IMF: the low-intensity hybrid conflict continues.” — me

    It looks like scenario #1 is in play: US takes total control over IMF:

    IMF Says It Will Continue Lending To Ukraine Even After A Default – that is despite IMF’s own long established rules.

    At the same time probability of Greek default increases: it is in the interests of US who wants to weaken EU as much as possible to take over its industry using TTIP.

    Also, no chance for Chinese yuan joining the IMF’s SDR currency basket.

    No deal: the speed with which the world is approaching a massive conflict will increase many times

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  86. FincaInTheMountains June 18, 2015 at 8:40 am #

    Time to dig out skeletons from American closet?

    The Major General of Justice Vladimir Markin, the head of Russian Investigative committee, in his recent article published in “Izvestia” made not such subtle hint that Russian intelligence possesses some revealing materials regarding many American endeavors, starting from American manned Moon program, which is a cornerstone of current supposed US technological superiority.


    It is long speculated in Russian Internet that the Soviet Union covered for Americans the actual results of the Apollo flights, due to some deal between US and USSR struck back in late 1960s.

    If the current tensions will continue to increase with the speed they currently do, the “conspiracy theorists” all over the world might have a hell of a time soon.

  87. FincaInTheMountains June 18, 2015 at 9:50 am #

    The head of Russian largest bank (VTB) told about the arrest of Russian accounts in France

    Law enforcement agencies of France seized the accounts of Russian companies in the French branch of VTB, said the head of the State Bank, Andrei Kostin. According to him, the accounts of Russian diplomatic missions are also under arrest.


    This is not about money, after all Russia could seize in return much bigger French property in Russia. Potentially we are seeing pre-war escalation of the conflict.

  88. Q. Shtik June 18, 2015 at 11:02 am #

    Of course, the reporting bureaus of the US government continue to play these “shell games” to try to make it appear that we have a vibrant economy. – Therian


    Beside the slide in the BDI (Baltic Dry Index) pull up a one year chart of stock symbol ISH (International Shipholding Corp). It’ll take your breath away.

    And yet…….the DOW is up 180 as we speak and some company I never heard of till an hour ago — FitBit — just did an IPO at $20/shr and the first trade out of the box was at $31+.

    When does the implosion take place?

    • Therian June 18, 2015 at 12:14 pm #

      It’s now up over 200 but has still gone nowhere year-to-date. The linked article above (Volodya’s) has about five shipping indices, all at collapse points.

      However, as alluded to in that article, these all time lows represent a smooth decline since 2008. The enormous increase in money supply worldwide is masking absolute deadness in the economy by kiting the stock market. Yet MV, “monetary velocity”, is also lower now than at the bottom in 2009.

      In a sense the “implosion” has already taken place. Middle class purchasing power is eroding rapidly and new entrants into the lower middle and lower classes are expanding. So much for Krugman’s theory that money printing would save us. What it is doing effectively is stringing out the “implosion” so that it’s ramp instead of a cliff.

  89. Q. Shtik June 18, 2015 at 11:18 am #

    Trump claimed that economic growth has “never” been below zero until last quarter’s drop, which is far from true. It has been below zero 42 times since 1946. – wpa–ccc


    I did not hear ALL of Trump’s speech. I stumbled into it some where in the middle. From the portion that I DID hear I would say your statement above, wpa, is not accurate and, in fact, what Trump actually said is even worse. He is a slipshod speaker. The Times called his speech “meandering.” I concur.

    What I heard Trump say (several times) is that “the GDP is below zero.” He didn’t say the growth in the GDP which he obviously meant but, as I said, he is a slipshod speaker.

    And being the ass that he is he took several opportunities to tell us he is very rich and that he is not bragging.

    • Therian June 18, 2015 at 12:19 pm #

      Trump is one of the most egotistical men in US political history. You’d think the guy fed widows and orphans the way he goes on about his greatness. For God’s sake, he’s a casino guy!! The TV show “The Apprentice” had him as the show “god” who hired and fired apprentice entrepreneurs. Yet he has gone bankrupt at least three times!!

      Kerry has been called a “haircut in search of a brain” but I think that applies far more to Mr. Trump. I used to the Kiyosaki had the market on self admiration cornered but he’s a piker compared to “the Donald”.

  90. Q. Shtik June 18, 2015 at 11:51 am #

    For Janos, EVERYTHING IS RACE. He harps on Jewish race. – dannyboy


    Janos, of course, hates the Jews HOWEVER he has often praised them for their ability to maintain a high degree of racial purity. He wishes Whites could do half as well.

    What are your feelings, danny, on Jewish racial purity? Would you be OK with Jews mixing racially to a much higher degree than they currently do? What about you, personally, if you were not already married? Could you date or marry a Queen Latifah or a Michelle Obama?

    BTW, you never gave me a straight answer as to where you place yourself on the Jewish orthodoxy spectrum.

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    • dannyboy June 18, 2015 at 12:32 pm #


      Yes, I am married (for 40 years). I did marry a Jewish girl; so I guess I did maintain the Jewish Tradition.

      There is a misconception on this site, where Race and Religion are used interchangeability. It leads to a lot of confusion. As for my religion, I respect the tradition that I was raised in and see no reason to change. I do believe, however that others can choose to change to another religion if they prefer. So, I’m clearly not Orthodox.

      I’m more of a person who enjoys his own religion and respects other religious belief and practices of other people. Janos has me down for hating Gentiles????? Another of his antisemitic beliefs.

      Hope this helps.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2015 at 2:22 pm #

        The commentarial part of the Talmud make clear that Gentiles are not human. Their souls come from the lower spheres and their only function is at best to serve the Jews. Judaism become more racist as the centuries passed: the Old Testament was bad enough, the Mishna worse, the Gemara worse again. And later works like the Toldoth Yeshu and The Tanya, simply abominable.

        Of course the smartest Jews know that Jews aren’t a racially pure people, but the Orthodox don’t get that. They should since even the Old Testament shows a lot of conversion going on. Even Danny, who is reasonable intelligent, doesn’t get how the Ethiopian Jews are a genetic disaster for Israel. The primitive part of his brain just reacts: They’re Jews. And Jews are good!

        In Talmudic Literature there are occasion allowances made for “good” Gentiles having a place in the world to come. Good means serving the Jews. And that’s the definition of good as well It’s kind of like Christians who think their dogs will make it because of them.

        Even Jehovah is shown studying the Talmud and being bested in argument by the Rabbis. Thus the Old Religion, the Judaism of the Prophets, is just a shell that hides the new Babylonian Religion of Talmudism that developed during the Babylonian Captivity. Christ condemned the Pharisee Sect as a corrupt tradition of men. And for that he was killed. Thus Christianity is the heir to the Old religion of the Prophets and not the so called Judaism of the Talmud.

        Just today a Catholic Church was burned in Israel by the Jews – or perhaps Muslims pretending to be. Hebrew writing against false gods was found on a wall inside. Obviously a sect that teaches than non Jews aren’t people isn’t going to facilitate peace in the world. Here’s a good book by a mainstream scholar that discusses the slander of Jesus in the Talmud. He is seen as asorcerer and seducer.


        • dannyboy June 18, 2015 at 7:33 pm #

          A Nazi expert on the Talmud, enlightens a Jew on the ‘fine points’ as the Nazi pontificates on. And on. And on.

          Kinda’ like Goebbels.

          • malthuss June 19, 2015 at 1:36 am #

            Up thread I had mentioned — Lou Reed [Rabinowitz?].

            He was gay. And a weirdo, druggie, who later found some happiness in Buddhism, if I recall right.

          • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 8:00 pm #


            I did reply. My post missed being adjacent to your as others got between us.

            I always reply to each post that I read.


    • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2015 at 2:06 pm #

      The inner structure of German National Socialism and Zionism are in fact very similar. And since Zionism came first, we might even postulate that it was an influence in the development OF National Socialism. Both emphasize a Homeland for racially pure people. Nay more: they cooperated closely in the effort to repatriate Jews to Palestine. The outbreak of open war closed down the operation and of course now Jews deny it, but it is a historical fact. Google Transfer Agreement.

      Fascist Theory could accept Zionism as Fascism for Jews but the favor is not returned. Jews see themselves as infinitely special and can’t stand that everyone else doesn’t agree with them on that. How dare anyone see themselves as special instead.

      Care, Consideration, Empathy, Compassion – Jews realized that these are all limited psychological resources. And make no mistake: they want as much of ours that they can get. Anything left over should go to their dark skinned allies. What’s left for ourselves? Nothing hopefully.

      • dannyboy June 18, 2015 at 4:31 pm #


        The Talmud is the law to Jews. It describes Creation and man’s place in it. Man’s place is to respect the laws and help each other in the human desire to know God.

        Christianity is an Abrahamic Religion. Who was Abraham?

        “Just today a Catholic Church was burned in Israel by the Jews – or perhaps Muslims pretending to be.” – Janos
        I don’t even know how to reply to this kind of misinformation.

        I expect that the majority of the Posters on this site ‘know you’. I get that from the description of you as the Resident Vampire Racist.

        I only engage with you, while others won’t, because it is my duty as a good Jew and as a human being to help.

        • elysianfield June 18, 2015 at 6:42 pm #

          “I don’t even know how to reply to this kind of misinformation.”

          Quote your sources in rebuttal, and give references….

          • dannyboy June 18, 2015 at 7:49 pm #

            Janos claimed that: “Just today a Catholic Church was burned in Israel by the Jews – or perhaps Muslims pretending to be.”

            I replied that “I don’t even know how to reply to this kind of misinformation.”

            Now you challenge me to ” Quote your sources in rebuttal, and give references….”


            You are asking me to provide alibies for all Jews and all Muslims. Give me a hint of your requirements to uphold the innocence of the Jews. Or is Janos’ accusation proof enough?

          • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2015 at 8:29 pm #

            The Hate that never dies.


            Now consider, if Danny lied about this, what else is he’s lying about? Can he be believed about anything. Sorry Dan, you walked right into it. You must be in finance, diamonds, or shoe repair – a lawyer you’re not. I mean surely you knew that I’m smart enough to link an article? I didn’t even need to – it’s in the news today. You must be a Hasid, totally out of touch with the greater world.

          • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 12:39 pm #

            Our Resident Hater has pronounced that “The Hate that never dies.”. Well finally he speaks from his expertise!

            Hate Expert continues: “Now consider, if Danny lied about this, what else is he’s lying about? Can he be believed about anything. Sorry Dan, you walked right into it. You must be in finance, diamonds, or shoe repair – a lawyer you’re not. I mean surely you knew that I’m smart enough to link an article? I didn’t even need to – it’s in the news today. You must be a Hasid, totally out of touch with the greater world.”

            now there is NOT ONE WORD OF TRUTH in Janos’ RANT. I don’t lie, that’s Janos’ specialty.

            Janos’ choice for my career is WRONG. (again)

            so…I must be a Hasid.

            is he just fucked up, or does he have some kinda’ agenda.

            only Janos knows for sure

            unless he’s fucked up and therefore lost even to himself.

            That explanation would explain everything.

            I think I gotta’ stop treating Janos like he’s got an agenda, and assume he’s just another fucked up ranting nutter. That does fit better with his behavior.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2015 at 8:38 pm #

          Who was Abraham? A Man from Ur whom God spoke to. God told him that his descendants would be more numerous than the grains of sands on the beach (the Jews) and more numerous than the stars in the heavens (Christians).

          Most Jews say that that both the Jews and Judaism began beneath Mt Sinai where Moses was given the revelation. Before that the door in to joining the Chosen People was far more open than afterwards. Anyway, that point is up for debate – one could take Abraham as the Father of the Jews too I suppose.

          Like you, I accept the Vedic Revelation as well. God has many Sons. And the Vedic Revelation was for Aryans, not Semites.

          • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 12:43 pm #


            Just stop with the Jewish scholarship, it’s not your strong suit (hating is).

            The Vedic COGNITIONS are for all men.

            Moses was the one with REVELATIONS.

            How do you get it ALL wrong?

    • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 9:49 am #


      Yes, Lou Reed is Jewish. Yes, was gay. I don’t know anything about his Buddhist Studies, but do think it awfully prejudiced to select individuals to make demeaning remarks about an entire religion.

      If it helps: the Conversation was about Leonard Cohen, a practicing Buddhist. You may have confused the two Jews. Seems to be happening a lot here.

      If you listen to Cohen’s performance of “Born in Chains” on his “Popular Problems” album, you will soon realize that he knows God. Not so bad for a Jew.

      • malthuss June 19, 2015 at 10:53 am #

        ‘Not so bad for a Jew.’.
        LC is not a jew –in that I assume he doesnt go to a temple.
        He went to Ramesh Balsekar instead.

        • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 11:35 am #

          This, from another scholar of Judiasm: If you aren’t attending Temple regularly for Services then you are not a Jew.

          Is this how your religion works?

  91. wpa--ccc June 18, 2015 at 4:00 pm #

    Could Trump be the cornpone dictator JHK has been prophesying? JHK says there will NEVER be an economic recovery. Trump says the America dream is DEAD.

    So many comments on CFN seem to agree with Trump that Mexico is sending us their worst rapists, unskilled, takers… feeding into CFN racism and paranoia.

    Trump has a 100% guaranteed military solution to ISIL, and many on CFN also think it is our resposibility to intervene militarily.

    I think CFN may have its candidate now. If Trump would only make it official, like 90 other Republicans have done, by filling out the FEC form 2. There are now 401 candidates for president. Donald Trump’s name is not among them, as of this moment.

    But filling out FEC Form 2 would make Trump legally liable for all his bullshit claims about having money. He can wave around his own piece of paper and make claims about being a multi-billionare… but that is not the same as swearing to his net assets under oath. That Trump has not done.

    Trump is not yet legally a candidate, and won’t be until he fills out the legally binding FEC form. Until then it is all ego- aggrandizement, a publicity campaign, not a serious political campaign.


  92. BackRowHeckler June 18, 2015 at 4:09 pm #

    Its an odd thing, whenever a large company in this state announces a substantial layoff, immediately local news organizations report on how many jobs were ‘created’ this month, and how much lower the unemployment rate has fallen. It never fails.

    Good News! School is out, and if you were worried the kids in Hartford wouldn’t eat during the summer, since school provides breakfast, lunch and supper, don’t fret, All 3 meals will be provided in numerous locations thru out the city beginning today. Mom and dad, Madre y Padre, you don’t have to feed your own kids, the government will do it for you! All 3 meals! give you more time to watch TV, drink, smoke crack, and make more kids you cannot or will not take care of.

    An estimated 25% of Hartford is illegal, and beginning July 1 they will be issued City ID cards, which, among other things, will allow them to sign up for the full menu of social services. Article claims the word is out in Mexico and Central America and prospective ‘immigrants’ are requesting they be brought directly to Hartford, where everything is free.


    • malthuss June 19, 2015 at 1:37 am #


  93. ozone June 18, 2015 at 7:49 pm #

    Alrighty then (ahem),
    Read this and then see if you can make a small guess at how we might have arrived at Jeb and Hil as the absolutely bestest, most viable-est candidates you ever did lay eyes upon in the history of America and the universe:


    What’s that? Because *who* said so?

    It’s time to call bullshit on the whole magilla; no institution with brand recognition can be trusted to tell us anything that’s not heavily laden with a self-serving agenda.

    Chris Hedges sez:
    “The corporate state seeks to get us to participate in the political charade of choreographed elections. It seeks to make us play by its rules. Our corporate media, flush with the dollars from political advertising, fills the airwaves with the ridiculous and the trivial. Candidates, pollsters, political strategists, pundits and celebrity journalists provide endless loops of banal and absurd “political” chatter, all of it a grotesque form of anti-politics. We will be bombarded with this propaganda, largely centered on the manufactured personalities of candidates, for many months. Tune it out. It means nothing.”

    He goes on (at length), but since most commenters at this time of week are too invested in crumbs from the elite’s banquet table, it’s really not worth mentioning here.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2015 at 8:50 pm #

      Don’t be impertinent.

      • malthuss June 19, 2015 at 1:39 am #

        I – or perhaps We – know how you luv to argue, cajole, discuss etcetcetc BUT could you ignore Danny boy?

        Lot of work scrolling past the discussion.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2015 at 4:04 am #

          He wont leave me alone – plus it’s fun bouncing him off the floor and to see him careening into walls. Thus he serves me by giving me exercise and also as a teaching device for my many readers here.

          • Therian June 19, 2015 at 6:54 am #

            Good attitude, Janos. I don’t know why seemingly every blog has an obsessive-compulsive whose mission in life is to hound one poster but it’s a common phenomenon. Of course, there are MANY here who hound you for your audacity in loving your own ethnicity, a “privilege” accorded only to people of non-European descent by the multiculti liberals. God knows that they’ve fried you in Hell so many times for that “sin” that they’ve run out of Crisco but none so relentlessly as Dannyboy.

            Worry not, Janos. Some of us here merely shrug our shoulders at the self-preening, self-loathing libtards. These days I greet their attitudes laconically because after saying the obvious so many times, one grows weary. Of course, I agree with the libtards about issues like corporate accountability but sometimes I wonder if such partial reinforcement of them is in their, or my, best interests.

          • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 9:55 am #

            You boys with your persecution complex are a riot, but nutty. Your MO is to insult and demean every other Race and religion and then hide behind your Paranoia.

            Claiming that “I don’t know why seemingly every blog has an obsessive-compulsive whose mission in life is to hound one poster but it’s a common phenomenon.” is the highest form of denial. OF COURSE PEOPLE ON EVERY BLOG WILL OBJECT TO YOU HATE SPEWING.

            I guess your little group is huddling together for consolation. Kinda’ like a circle jerk.

          • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 10:16 am #


            sounds a little delusional, doncha’ think?

            Like echos of Hitler.

    • ozone June 18, 2015 at 9:26 pm #

      …Consider this a personal peccadillo of mine, but I’ve never been disposed to taking advice or labeling of any kind from what appear to be pathological, serial trolls.
      I know, it’s backward; perhaps even a sign of unreasonable mistrust, but there it is.

      • beantownbill. June 18, 2015 at 10:44 pm #

        When you breathe air, you are not only inhaling atmospheric gasses, you are inhaling other particulate matter, i.e., dust and pollution. It seems very little in this world is pure. Therefore, one ought to expect that even this blog, which has many thoughtful comments, would include some expression of human garbage.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2015 at 4:15 am #

          That is exactly the Kabbalistic Doctrine – expressed via scientific metaphor. Gentile Souls come from the lower spheres and are of the nature of filth and darkness. Congratulations.

          • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 10:14 am #

            Also a self-proclaimed expert on Kabbalah!

            a fuckin’ Renaissance Man…

            …in his own mind.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2015 at 2:47 pm #

            I notice you didn’t contradict what I said though.

          • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 8:03 pm #

            k janos

            I HEREBY CONTRADICT Janos.

            Feel better now?

            Still need more rejection?

            I’ts insatiable.

        • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 10:22 am #

          beantown bill,

          Your argument has merit, when describing air. But when humans are involved, a passive acceptance of toxic thought is not-so-benign.

          Tolerating diverse thoughts and different people is to be recommended. Tolerating the bad acts of individuals is not true-by-extension. There are good reasons that murder is not accepted, even though a human act.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2015 at 10:46 pm #

        Yes, unreasonable mistrust. If I was working for the Government, I wouldn’t be putting forth White Nationalist memes. They obviously wouldn’t want that. Obviously such workers are given certain talking points and parameters. They can’t just say anything for any reason. Think about it, will ya?

        • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 10:25 am #


          i expect that you can work for no organization, governments included. Thus your association with White Nationalism.

          See, everybody needs somebody…even nazis.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2015 at 2:59 pm #

            Sounds like it would make a great Leonard Cohen song. Call Len and let’s make it happen. There’s a great Jewish restaurant in Scranton we could meet at – the Matzo soup is to die for.

          • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 8:05 pm #

            neither Mr Cohen care to dine with you.

            We decline your invitation.

            But will eat the soup and not think a thought of you.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 20, 2015 at 5:10 pm #

            Liar! You will never have Matzo soup again without thinking of Me.

            Krishna says in Bhagavad Gita, The four Castes are not arbitrary social designations, but rather they were made by Me and must be preserved intact.

            Since Krishna is speaking directly, the Gita is considered Smriti or Divinely revealed scripture. The Me is the Divine Self, the “Before Abraham I Am” of Christ. Krishna is the Christ of India just as Christ is the Krishna of Christianity.

            The Jews rejected their own Avatar! So we took Him instead, thus becoming the new Chosen People of the West.

          • dannyboy June 21, 2015 at 7:24 am #


            Once again you accuse me of lying, and then proceed to spout rants filled with lies and hate.

            I do not eat matzo ball soup, as I am, as I previously exclaimed, a vegetarian, and matzo ball soup is chicken soup with balls of matzo (much like your own).

            The remainder of your post is Janos’ view of Jewish religion. Once again, I prefer to receive my Jewish scholarship elsewhere, for obvious reasons.

            What I will comment however, is that your loyal following seems to be enthralled by your knowledge. Me and every other thoughtful person…not so much.

    • Being There June 19, 2015 at 9:14 am #

      The elite need the show pony elections to prove to the world we are a democracy and a capitalist economy.

      We are neither and more and more people have caught on.

      After the tragic expenditure on these races that go on for a year and a half without real governance during and afterwards, I’m afraid this is utterly unsustainable and just entertainment with no discussion on any of the challenges we face and believe you me we are inundated with challenges that we won’t survive.

      Maybe these elite understand we’re not going to be able to meet any of the challenges and are going for their own brand of unwinding while garnering as much wealth and resources before it collapses.

      I don’t know what they think, but my guess is that after WWII we created an environment here in the US manufactured by Disney to create a reality that blocked the horrors of the depression and genocide from out children and at each step of the way we’re making sure that nothing of substance is ever discussed nor are our challenges ever dealt with.

      That’s why it can’t go on. That’s why we’re over.
      There can’t be leadership in Fantasy Land.

      • malthuss June 19, 2015 at 10:55 am #

        pony or phoney?

      • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2015 at 2:54 pm #

        I’m sure you’d look adorable in mouse ears. Why not don them and use the garnered attention for your political activism? Do they still allow tables outside the White House? Maybe Wage could join you and keep you company – but she has to wear mouse ears too.

    • beantownbill. June 18, 2015 at 11:07 pm #

      Did you notice that the House passed the fast track TPP, and now it is going to the Senate for confirmation? I expected this, but was struck by the lack of mention of this very important piece of legislation by the MSM.

  94. Q. Shtik June 18, 2015 at 10:46 pm #

    I’ve never been disposed to taking advice or labeling of any kind from what appear to be pathological, serial trolls. – Ozone


    Although you have done just that right ^here^ by labeling Janos a pathological, serial troll.

    But that’s OK, labels are good. They cut to the chase so we don’t have to endlessly define our terms when everyone already knows what we’re talking about. We all know what a drunk is and don’t need euphemisms like substance abuser.

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    • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2015 at 4:11 am #

      I’m the bad guy for mentioning that Jews set fire to an ancient Catholic Church. The Jews that did it are fine. They’re Jews after all – above any moral laws that govern the rest of us. This is the attitude enjoined by the Talmud relative to Non-Jews. And as you can see, the attitude, if not the doctrine, has survived the transition into secularity that so many Jews have taken.

      • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 10:00 am #

        brought to you by the Resident Racist Vampire (hat tip!) and self-proclaimed Talmudic Scholar.

        can’t make this shit up!

      • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2015 at 2:08 pm #

        Just to be clear: Not all Jews are like this or feel this way. Truly rational and secularized Jews do not approve of such attitudes or evil behaviors. Israel has far more dissent, self criticism, and protest within in its own borders than Jews seem to allow themselves here in America. I once read an editorial in The Nation where a Socialist Jew condemned the Neo Con Jews for their betrayal of the Enlightenment. But this message never seems to make it to popular culture at least not that I’ve seen.

    • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 10:29 am #


      I knew that Janos is a “a pathological, serial troll.”, but the news of his drinking is helpful. I guess between that and his living in fear of his own and his mother’s terror of his own father (who he, in some conflicted way, adores with ‘ancestor worship’) I see what’s gone wrong. And for how many generations.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2015 at 2:10 pm #

        Where did I start drinking? Please give the time stamp of the post so I can find out too.

      • Q. Shtik June 19, 2015 at 2:50 pm #

        I knew that Janos is a “a pathological, serial troll.”, but the news of his drinking is helpful. – dannyboy


        Danny, I think you have missed the point completely…and probably on purpose.

        The point was about labels. I don’t subscribe to the label “a pathological, serial troll” applied surreptitiously by Ozone to Janos and I have no idea of Janos’s drinking habits.

        My mention of “drunk” vs “substance abuser” was meant to highlight the PC tendency in recent years to take the sting out of all labels…e.g certain people at one time were called “homosexuals,” now they are “gay” and “hermaphrodites” are now said to be “intersex.”

        More bizarre to me was Ozone becoming visibly pissed off that I made an assumption from the manner of speech of another commenter that that commenter was either “female” or “gay male.” I guess in Ozone’s world it’s not right to make assumptions and apply such heinous labels as “female.”

  95. FincaInTheMountains June 19, 2015 at 4:48 am #

    Hot summer in Texas

    In July, several southern US states (Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada, Utah and Colorado) will host unprecedented large-scale exercises “Jade Helm”.

    These exercises are unprecedented both in duration (8 weeks), and the scope of the participants. Army Special Forces “Green Berets”, “Navy SEALs” and the Airborne Special Forces of the 82nd Airborne Division. In total 1,200 people will participate, not counting the support and logistics. According to rumors the exercises will also involve military units of the FBI.

    So, what is so special about these exercises? There are a few things that require us to pay close attention to this event.

    Firstly, the topics of these exercises are alarming. They will imitate the suppression of the rebellion in the south and southwest of the United States that found themselves in the hands of the separatists. Equally alarming is the fact that the exercises are mainly held outside the territory of military bases, that is, in the areas populated with ordinary civilians.

    Former Texas Governor Rick Perry Texans ridiculed concerns about these exercises. But the acting governor Greg Abbott took to the “Jade Helm” with the utmost seriousness. And he even ordered the Texas State Guard to carefully observe the actions of the participating troops.

    But that all could be considered just a little American entertainment, if not for a few more disturbing coincidences.

    We all know about extremely tense confrontation between the Bushes and Clintons (Rockefellers) clans in the US policy. The confrontation, which is not only based on the competition of political clans for a place on Olympus, but also fundamentally different visions of the future of the United States. Thus in 2016, the year both clans come clashing again, in an irreconcilable struggle for a place in the White House. While the primary is not held in any of the parties, there is little doubt that the main struggle is between Hillary Clinton (the Rockefellers), and Jeb Bush. And the result of this fight is totally unpredictable. And its consequences are very high degree of probability can lead to a decline of the loser clan.

    It is hardly by chance that almost all the states involved in the exercise are the root area of the Bush voters. Exercises can serve as an excellent tool of intimidation. You never know what can happen during exercises. A missile or a drone could easily fly off course. After all Texas has always been quite critical of the authorities in Washington. And it is almost the only US state that could exit from the Union only by internal decision of the State authorities.

    But the most interesting news came a few days ago. By decree of the Governor Texas withdraws from Fed banks its gold and silver. For that purpose storage in Texas is urgently being built. The main holders of precious metals are the two pension funds belonging to the University of Texas and state teachers’ pension fund. The amount of their total metal possession is not disclosed.

    The main reason for removal of the gold and silver from the Federal Reserve banks is distrust of banks, which could lease metals deposited with them with uncertain chances of return.

    If you bring all the information together, it forms quite an interesting picture. Opposing political clans a year before the election demonstrates possibility of confrontation by non-political means. Moreover, each side shows not only the willingness but also the ability to defend their own point of view before the opponent. And choosing the moment for tough confrontation may not be too coincidental.

    The departing Obama administration is in a limbo. By and large, it does not belong to any of these clans, and therefore is not only weak, but also very convenient to take the blame for any disastrous results of the confrontation.

    Only God knows what will come out of it. It may very well just end with demonstration of power and intentions. And then we all could laugh at the fears. But there is other option, including secession of the southern states from the rest of the United States. Moreover, under certain conditions, this option could be acceptable to both Bushes, receiving their personal and quite resource-rich fiefdom, and the Rockefellers, getting rid of a dangerous competitor.

  96. FincaInTheMountains June 19, 2015 at 6:49 am #

    “Trump’s an ass – with great ideas” — Janos

    Trump as new Perot 1992: Gather anti-establishment dupes into a campaign-Disorient them on main issue – Lead them into desert-Dump them.

    US jobs were shipped overseas by Wall Street elite – but demagogue Trump blames China Mexico – Protecting big US banks that own him.

    Con man and Wall Street’s latest pied piper!


    • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2015 at 2:22 pm #

      Yes, a new angle on the tragedy. After decades of ignoring the truth, get the absolutely wrong guy to stand up and speak the truth. Who can trust him? I might still vote for him – hoping against hope, whistling past the graveyard. It’s kill or cure at this point. I don’t believe he will do most of the things he says and perhaps not any. But none of the other candidates will do anything either – and they’re proud of it.

  97. Pucker June 19, 2015 at 7:10 am #

    I’m going to sit in the tanning salon for a few hours, and then I’m going to apply for a job with the NAACP.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2015 at 2:25 pm #

      I have an old girlfriend who has attained a high position in Washington DC. Looking at her on facebook, I swear she is looking very brown these days. I wouldn’t put it past her to spend a lot of time in tanning booths in order to look as ethnic as possible.

  98. FincaInTheMountains June 19, 2015 at 7:15 am #

    For Clinton the destruction of Russia as the main obstacle to color revolutions is a priority, and the process of permanent color revolution is a Moloch to which she is willing to sacrifice the national interests of the United States, just as Trotsky in the 1920’s was ready to sacrifice national interests of Russia in the name of permanent Communist revolution.

    • ozone June 19, 2015 at 8:18 am #

      Here, you’re pondering a *consequence* of a Bush or Clinton selection. (All well and good, IMO.) I believe that it’s just as important to ponder how consent is manufactured so that we arrive at this [non]choice. The media keeps insisting that they’re the only ‘serious’ and ‘viable’ candidates. What are the mechanisms by which we are forced into this diabolical cattle-chute?
      As I said, before the “conversation” veered into self-referential piffle:
      It’s time to call bullshit on the whole magilla; no institution with brand recognition can be trusted to tell us anything that’s not heavily laden with a self-serving agenda.

  99. Pucker June 19, 2015 at 7:43 am #

    Rachel Dolezal scammed the negroes.

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  100. Buck Stud June 19, 2015 at 7:59 am #

    Since I’m somewhat of an authority on the dimple in the spirit and the wrinkle in the psyche, take a look at these two photos and ponder the thought that “spirit”, evil or otherwise, is indeed capable of transcending the everyday corporeal with a certain ineffable penetrative efficiency; the incorporeal, if you will:



    Yeah, it’s “him” alright. Again.

    • Buck Stud June 19, 2015 at 8:02 am #

      wrong second link; here is the correct one for Dylan Mengele:


      • dannyboy June 19, 2015 at 10:02 am #

        does he run with janos’ posse?

      • Q. Shtik June 19, 2015 at 1:37 pm #

        Well Buck, you’re a professional artist and I’m not. Obviously you see something in these two pics that completely escapes me.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2015 at 1:54 pm #

      No the page boy or bowl haircut is the giveaway for mental illness or at least complete un hip nerdiness at this point. I just watched “The Warlord” with Charlton Heston. He could pull it off. As could someone like Oliver Cromwell. But now anyone who sports it is copying the Beetles – and their “cool” was very time or phase specific. They stopped wearing their hair that way but their worst fans never did.

      The Subconscious betrays people and makes fools of sinners. This is the law. I worked with mental patients and saw this. One guy used to walk around all day holding his pants so they didn’t fall down. If you offered him a belt he would have felt that it was too much trouble to put on. Far better to act like someone out of a comic strip all day. Likewise sporting the bowl. It broadcasts that the unfortunate is a fool – and in this case, a dangerous one.

  101. wpa--ccc June 19, 2015 at 8:22 am #

    In a short time Sen. Bernie Sanders’ support has grown to 31%

    Sanders could be our next president. If Sanders is not nominated, Clinton cannot win without those 31% … and growing, who support Sanders

    • Q. Shtik June 19, 2015 at 2:07 pm #

      Sanders could be our next president.


      Yeah, he could be but he won’t be.

  102. Buck Stud June 19, 2015 at 8:43 am #


    You can cite the injustice of an “uneducated” union worker with a better retirement that an educated former defense industry worker on one hand, and then belie that consternation by casting your POTUS vote for a former college dropout whose political goal in life seems to be grinding an axe with educational unions.

    IOW, the arguments, one way or another (including my own) are very self serving and ‘decontextualized’. Maybe a better way is to look at bigger picture.

    For instance, how do you situate and sustain the “whole” of society when certain political ideologues are intent on elevating component aspects above the integrity of “The Whole”: ‘We are a Nation of rugged individualists’ or ‘by thine own bootstraps’ or ‘evil collectivism’ etc, etc, etc.

    All of these considerations will take one far back into the annals of philosophy and into territory that will assuredly contradict one’s personal belief system with the devastating insight of the omni-directional vantage point if its an honest search spurred by integrity and not ideological debate points.

    Maybe we should start with the modern day GOP’s vision of what constitutes a nation/society and how that harmonizes with the necessity of “The Whole” which is a requirement for a nation. We will see one on one hand that when it comes to the defense industry and military ventures the GOP calls for ‘one Nation indivisible’; and when it comes to any sort of “social and economic security’ for it’s citizens on the other, the GOP rolls out the rugged individualist’ by thy own bootstrap meme.

    We will also see assertions that union wages are ‘unsustainable’ on one hand, while calling for more tax breaks for the likes of the Koch brothers on the other along with turning a blind eye to corporations hiding billions and billions of dollars in off shore tax havens.

    It would be a twisted journey of inquiry that seeks to ‘seek the straight thru the curved’ all the while realizing that human beings natural proclivity results in the ‘curved thru the straight’.

    But go far back enough and we will read that Limbaugh et al are basically parroting Tharymachus’ ‘unjust argument so artfully refuted by Socrates many, many years ago.

    Most of all we will see, IMO, that the modern day GOP platform is irrational and incoherent and inevitably leads to dissolution/entropy as the parts inevitable break away from the whole.

    Of course I could very well be full of shit–perhaps I haven’t searched deeply enough yet– so please feel free to set me on a more insightful path.

    • Q. Shtik June 19, 2015 at 2:03 pm #

      Buck, I can see you’re having a good time with all this philosophizing but let’s just keep it simple.

      For starters, if you posted 10 male pics and one was Scott Walker I couldn’t tell you which was him. Nor, I think, have I ever listened to him speak so I don’t even know his voice. Rest assured I am not voting for Walker or for anyone else for that matter. I am repulsed by politicians, politics and even more so by political junkies.

      The point of my response to your post the other day was to remind you what happens when unions become too powerful. I am absolutely delighted that my wife’s father and mother were able to live the good life even though it was far beyond the lifestyle of virtually all other non-UAW people of similar education and holding similar low level labor positions. And I am not complaining about my own pension…I am glad to have it. I am merely pointing out the illogical disparity.

  103. Pucker June 19, 2015 at 9:25 am #

    Obama scammed the negroes.

  104. FincaInTheMountains June 19, 2015 at 10:51 am #

    “What are the mechanisms by which we are forced into this diabolical cattle-chute?” == Ozone

    I am surprised you are asking me that question. For 20 years living in States out of which 15 I was a legal citizen with voting rights, I voted exactly zero times: I didn’t give a sh*t about politics, was busy with my professional carrier and only started to be interested in politics when I was already living on the Island (I have not left US for political, criminal, or economic reasons, just got fed up).

    But I believe that the mechanisms of herding the cattle are simple:

    1. Media, Media and Media
    2. Within 15 – 20 % rigging of the vote with various mechanisms – rigged electronic voting machines, busing the voters, you name it.

    “Here, you’re pondering a *consequence* of a Bush or Clinton selection.” — Ozone

    Well, I wouldn’t vote for neither of them, but after studying Hillary’s track record on both American and Russian Internet, I just sincerely convinced that she is going to be a nightmare for all of us.

    Listen, I do not work for Russian intelligence and do not have access to any classified information, just making up my own mind from the materials I could discover on public Internet. My advantage is I am scanning both Russian and American

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    • ozone June 19, 2015 at 6:20 pm #

      ” I do not work for Russian intelligence and do not have access to any classified information, just making up my own mind from the materials I could discover on public Internet. My advantage is I am scanning both Russian and American.”

      That very perspective would be why I asked your opinion… so, thanks, I do appreciate it.

  105. wpa--ccc June 19, 2015 at 11:09 am #

    The pro-segregation, pro-race war, anti-women, anti-gay, anti-immigrant and anti-multicultural sentiment expressed weekly on CFN … with JHK’s blessing … leads directly to murders of Blacks, Sikhs, and anyone else considered “Other.”

    Consistent white nationalist messages of hate and intolerance result in massacres … massacres which are praised by Janos, who admires white supremacists with the “courage” to bomb little girls in Black churches and massacre Blacks in Bible study groups.

  106. nsa June 19, 2015 at 12:22 pm #

    WIGGERS UNITE TO DEFEAT THE COMMON ENEMY: WHITEY. Rachel D. could be your first prez candidate…… locking up the chick, lezzie, wigger, white guilt vote…and with the addition of a sombrero could take the beaner vote also. She has more balls than the present crop of frauds (including precious Bernie)…..and a lot more smarts. WIGGERS UNITE…..YOU HAVE ONLY YOUR WHITENESS TO LOSE.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2015 at 2:01 pm #

      Yes, she has lady balls like no other. She landing on her feet and running with the trans-racial paradigm football. If we have gender queer or gender fluid, why the hell not race queer or fluid?

      As Q reminds us, think of the business benefits to tanning salons and spray tan companies. Hell, why not call the stuff Race Queer Spray? I seem to really like saying hell all of a sudden. Maybe cuz that’s where we’re goin’? Correction: that’s where all y’all goin’. I’m plannin’ on meetin’ my Stormy Llewellyn on God’s Golden Shore.

      • Q. Shtik June 19, 2015 at 7:44 pm #

        As Q reminds us, think of the business benefits to tanning salons and spray tan companies. – Janos


        Date and time, please, when I issued this reminder.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2015 at 9:05 pm #

          Well perhaps more of something you might have said, could have said, or would have said if I hadn’t saved you the trouble.

  107. hortonz June 19, 2015 at 2:22 pm #

    Has American politics become divorced from any and all reality again? In the same week that a mentally unbalanced white male opens fire in a black church in South Carolina, killing several people, the leading Republican presidential candidate has nothing better to add to the national discourse but tired old Cold War rhetoric? And why is the left so keen to ignore the sad truth that leads so many young males in America to commit horrific crimes? Do they have nothing better to do than stoke the fires of racial conflict? Why can’t they be honest and admit that too many boys are growing up into dangerous young men? Maybe it’s because they would have to take a hard look at the American family in all its’ dysfunction and conclude that all of the progressive political movements of the past half-century have done nothing, nada, to address the real cause of America’s current dysfunction: too may young males, white and black, growing up without a father in the home. The single mother doesn’t have the time or energy to give these boys the kind of attention they deserve. They grow up thinking the world doesn’t give a damn about them and all of the resentment and anger finds its’ expression in violence. Kuddos to JHK for pointing out how empty and meaningless all the “family values” propaganda coming from the Republicans and Democrats really is.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2015 at 2:42 pm #

      On a game reserve in Africa, the workers starting finding dead rhinos, killed by crushing. They were puzzled since the rhino has no natural enemies – lions might kill a baby but they leave the adults alone. They set up cameras and found that adolescent male elephants were chasing rhinos, knocking them over, and then crushing them to death. All the mature males had been killed for their ivory and the adolescents didn’t know how to be without male modeling. They introduced a mature male into the herd and the behavior stopped.

      • malthuss June 19, 2015 at 5:14 pm #

        Oh you wily Coyote. You know so much.

        Why are you not rich?

        Are Rhinos naturally killers of Elephants?

        • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2015 at 9:08 pm #

          Ah, is that not not the real question! Rhinos and Elephants are both apex herbivores who typically just ignore each other as far as I know.

          • BackRowHeckler June 19, 2015 at 9:35 pm #

            Hippos, Rhinos and elephants, all three, are being wiped put by poachers with Kilasknikov rifles. By mid century they’ll be gone, for the most part.

            Its a real tragedy.

            China is calling the shots in Black Africa now. If Africans think they had it bad when Europeans were in charge they ain’t seen nothing yet. China will squeeze that place dry, then chuck it aside, like a hollowed out watermelon.


  108. Pucker June 19, 2015 at 8:35 pm #

    Rachel D’s tanning salon dark skin has as much in common with slavery as American negro dark skin today. And Rachel D’s white skin has as much in common with antebellum white oppression of slaves as Caucasian white skin today.

  109. Pucker June 19, 2015 at 8:40 pm #

    The Black moral entitlement and white guilt paradigm is a huge scam.

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  110. Pucker June 19, 2015 at 9:22 pm #

    People will pretend in order to get shit. They’ll pretend that one group of people is evil in order to get some benefit. Or, they’ll act crazy in order to get the “Crazy Check”. Similarly, they’ll pretend that nothing is wrong in order to avoid trouble.

  111. Pucker June 19, 2015 at 9:37 pm #

    The chameleon, Rachel Dolezal, is a reflection of society.

    The Era of Pretense:


  112. Pucker June 19, 2015 at 9:40 pm #


  113. PeteAtomic June 19, 2015 at 9:46 pm #

    Now that an actual reality TV show ‘star’ has shown up, the race for the Exec. can officially begin, since that’s in essence what the presidential race has become.

  114. wpa--ccc June 19, 2015 at 10:24 pm #

    wpa–ccc in 2015: Sanders could be our next president.

    Q.Shtik in 2015: Yeah, he could be but he won’t be.

    Asoka in 2007: Obama could be our next president.

    CFN CW in 2007: yeah, he could be but he won’t be.

    I am smarter than Asoka … and Bernie Sanders has much more experience, including balancing budgets, than Obama did in 2007.

    Sanders was also underestimated in previous elections …yet he won.

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    • Q. Shtik June 19, 2015 at 10:48 pm #

      For both of Obama’s campaigns I predicted at least a year in advance, in writing (to my brother and to this blog), that he would win. In both cases the key was a news photo of a post-speech Obama and his mostly female audience. They were in a state of rapture. Men are much less likely to go into a state of rapture.

    • BackRowHeckler June 20, 2015 at 12:45 am #

      What’s his campaign slogan?

      “Free Sh-t for Everybody, let somebody else pay for it”

      Now there’s a winner!


  115. FincaInTheMountains June 20, 2015 at 5:51 am #

    US is in hysteria because of Russian nuclear rearmament

    By 2020 Americans could be left without land-based nuclear missiles

    Putin announced that during 2015 Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will acquire 40 new intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) capable of breaking through any missile defense system.

    The reaction of Western politicians was immediate: US Secretary of State John Kerry expressed his concern about this statement. NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg even called it unacceptable and dangerous and placed Islamic State and Russia in a row as the main threats for the alliance. White House through Josh Ernest, called such a approach as “an unnecessary and unconstructive,” and even expressed doubts about the feasibility of plans due to economic difficulties because of the economic sanctions against Russia. He also did not rule out retaliatory measures.

    In fact, in 2014 Russian strategic nuclear forces have received 38 ICBMs, 22 of them are the latest RC-24 “Yars” in the mobile version, and 16 – P-30 “Bulava, which could be launched from nuclear submarine” Yury Dolgoruky ” of Project 955 “Borey”. This has been reiterated at the official level, as well as manufacturing plans for 2015, not much has changed.

    Note that the rate of production of new ICBMs has grown substantially since 2011, when it was produced 12 or more RS-24 per year. Prior to that, from 1997 to 2011, was delivered 78 ICBMs “Topol-M”, equipped, in contrast to “Yars”, with 3 to 4 separable warheads, that is, on average, no more than 6 -7 missiles per year.

    What is the cause of hysteria?

    It is likely that US enthusiastically waited the moment when Russian strategic deterrent forces will be ruined: This scenario was not seemed so unreal just 10 years ago.

    What’s more – the Americans for a long time did not produce new ICBMs: the Minuteman III silo missile is not produced since 1978 (the youngest missile is 37 years old) and Marine Trident II – since 2007 (the youngest missile is 8 years old). What’s even more interesting that there are no concrete plans for the resumption of production or the development of new ICBM in the US, although the Minuteman, which has been repeatedly extended after upgrades, will expire by 2020. In fact, the US may lose land-based capable strategic nuclear forces in 5 years.

  116. FincaInTheMountains June 20, 2015 at 7:59 am #

    Saudi Arabia wants to buy Russian nuclear reactors for $100 billion

    Saudi Arabia announced plans to build 16 nuclear reactors, said the head of “Rosatom” Sergey Kiriyenko in an interview with “Russia 24”.

    The total cost of construction, he said, could reach $100 billion.

    Russia and Saudi Arabia on Thursday signed an intergovernmental agreement on cooperation in the field of nuclear energy, which describes the main points of possible cooperation. However, the parties have not signed any contract yet. according to “Interfax”

    May be we should start talking about NuclearRuble instead of PetroDollar

  117. progress4what June 20, 2015 at 12:40 pm #

    “Meanwhile, Hillary (no last name required) steps out of the starting gate this week, too, pretending to be the incarnation of Robin Hood, as if she would ever shut down the financial rackets that have at once impoverished the former middle-class and enriched grifter opportunists such as Hillary herself.” – jhk –

    and this –

    “The rest of the world sees this for exactly what it is, friends, former friends, and adversaries alike. I wonder what the Germans thought of Jeb’s intemperate and idiotic speech. Eyes must have rolled in the meeting hall. After all, Russia is their natural major trading partner. How do US-orchestrated economic sanctions against Russia work in their interest?” – jhk –

    Both are well worth repeating at the tail end of this discussion thread. The US has always been fairly tightly insular, and now we appear to be circling into a vortex that cuts off all external logic. I suppose this was to be expected, and serves us right, collectively.

    It is not going to make for a pleasant future for most of us, however.

  118. progress4what June 20, 2015 at 1:06 pm #

    JHK – as I point out almost weekly – this comment software is unworthy of your readership. I just read through this week’s comments. The freestanding one’s are OK, but once the linked comments start, it’s often difficult to understand who is talking to whom. And I know that a lot of unique ideas are being marooned unseen – when posted later among Monday’s and Tuesday’s posts.
    Oh well. Too bad, so sad.


    To Q and beantown, bt, and several others, regarding NOT voting as a method of ………..

    I don’t get it. And I’m not trolling the issue, I swear! Not voting is a method of …. ? what exactly?

    Expressing yourself? please.

    Expressing displeasure with the system? Like “it” cares? PLEASE!

    And sure – Hill vs. Jeb is a contrived choice. But there are races down the ballot that are not yet so contrived – where it might be important to vote and understand a couple of local issues.

    If I didn’t know better I’d think Q and BTB were engaged in a deliberate conspiracy to discourage thinking political outliers (like the CFN readership) from ever again engaging in the political process except through online bitching.

    ‘Cause online bitching is so very productive, don’cha’know?

    I always suggest voting for the more important local races and ballot initiatives. Then – if you feel like you’re not being … *whatevertthehell* …. you can write in MICKY CLUSTERFUCKING MOUSE for President – in all caps like that, ideally.

    Now, that’s making a statement. If enough people made a statement like that it might jar something loose. Not voting is not a statement. Not voting is just stupid, IMO. (with all due respect 😉 )

    Somebody show me where I’m wrong. Please.

    • progress4what June 20, 2015 at 1:54 pm #

      “one’s” should be “ones”

      This particular linked comment system is great for corrections, not so great for anything else, im(h, of course)o.


  119. progress4what June 20, 2015 at 1:11 pm #

    And by the way, dannyboy. You have an obvious fear of the free expression of ideas. It’s not at all becoming to whatever you claim to represent.

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    • dannyboy June 21, 2015 at 7:29 am #


      I am in love with the free expression of ideas.

      It is hate-mongering, Race-spewing and the resultant call to desecrate that I oppose.

      You love THAT stuff?

  120. FincaInTheMountains June 20, 2015 at 2:52 pm #

    Some serious pre-election passions flared up in South Carolina

    Republican Congressman from South Carolina Lindsey Graham announced his participation in the US presidential campaign. On his decision to run 59-year-old senator announced speaking to supporters in his state.

    A day earlier, before the tragic events, the state was visited by Hillary Rodham Clinton. But her main Republican rival Jeb Bush had to cancel his visit in view of the tragic events.

    Among victims of the shooting of the parishioners of the African Methodist Episcopal Church was Clementa Pinckney, senator of the upper chamber of the Legislative Assembly of South Carolina from Democratic Party.

    The tragic event in the Church bears all signs of a professional assassination of a prominent politician of the Democratic Party during the election campaign, disguised as a murder motivated by racial hatred.

    Having trained in the killing of unwanted Ukrainian politicians, spin doctors have decided to transfer the Ukrainian “innovative technologies” of voter intimidation to the United States.

  121. Janos Skorenzy June 20, 2015 at 5:02 pm #


    Were you a friend of Pat?

  122. Q. Shtik June 20, 2015 at 5:11 pm #

    Not voting is a method of …. ? what exactly? – Prog


    Of not wasting my time.

    BTW, I don’t think I have ever suggested on this blog that others do as I do (i.e. not vote). People seem to get a sense of local and national camaraderie, so that is a good thing…I guess. But when the election is all over, far less than half the people are happy with the results, no matter who wins.

  123. nsa June 20, 2015 at 9:00 pm #

    Stalin’s dictum should be updated: “the people who cast votes don’t decide elections, the people who program the voting machines do”. Remember the election where West Palm Beach voted 98% for Pat Buchanan? That was a little joke instigated by our voting machine manipulation group here in Ft. Meade. Even Pat got a chuckle out of it……….

  124. malthuss June 20, 2015 at 9:49 pm #

    Does Soros own the machines? Via some European company.

    I recall reading that.


    Fact Check: Does George Soros Own an Overseas …
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    Sep 18, 2012 – Editor’s Note: This is the first in a series of investigative articles documenting who owns the electronic hardware and software used

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    • BackRowHeckler June 20, 2015 at 10:04 pm #

      Hold on a minute^

      The only Evil Billionaires round these parts are the Koch bros., font of everything bad, from climate change to White Privilege. Soros motives, conversely, are as pure as the driven snow, (as they used to say)

      Get with the program, Malthus.


  125. FincaInTheMountains June 21, 2015 at 3:34 am #

    Migrants from ruined African countries (including those ruined with France participation) stand along the road and attack cars and trucks stuck in a traffic jam. Unhappy French have nowhere to go – ahead is an accident, nobody could move forward or backward. You have to sit in the cabin and hope that two police officers will be able to keep in check crowd of several hundred black looters:


    • Janos Skorenzy June 21, 2015 at 4:16 am #

      Exactly. What is wrong with Whites that they allow their Civilization to be savaged by these savages? They add nothing and take so much. There’s a great video showing drunken Black African “students” insulting Russians and getting beaten for it. That’s the way, the only thing they understand.

      • dannyboy June 21, 2015 at 7:34 am #


        I don’t know why you want Blacks beaten at every opportunity, but you glee in their beatings disgusts me.

        Know anything but hate and violent retribution?

        • Janos Skorenzy June 21, 2015 at 3:32 pm #

          Yeah well so much for the young Rabbinical Student who ran the wrong way during the Crown Heights affair and was done to death by the Black Mob. Or the young Rabbi who had acid thrown in his face when the Blacks were ethnically cleansing the Jews (and some Irish) from Roxbury, Massachusetts.

          I seem to care more for your people than you do sometimes. Remember, you all look White to Blacks. And yes, you have done so much for them, but gratitude isn’t big among Blacks. Jews were the shop keepers in Roxbury – and that always burns Blacks, showing up their indolence. They did the same thing to the Hindu shop keepers in East Africa saying they wanted the shops for themselves. Very few of the shops were kept going, most being left vacant or becoming bars.

          How many Whites and Jews have been assaulted, robbed, raped, and murdered since the Blacks came north!

          • dannyboy June 21, 2015 at 4:06 pm #


            You trying to recruit me with you hate mongering?

            You will have more success with you ill-informed jerk-offs.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 21, 2015 at 3:41 pm #

          Never forget your beloved dead, Danny. Never forget the name Yankel Rosenbaum, killed by Sharpton’s Thugs – all the more poignant since Sharpton is a confidant of Obama and frequent visitor to the White House.


          • dannyboy June 21, 2015 at 4:10 pm #


            Still recruiting!

            Try your circle-jerkers who think your line of hatred is eloquent.

            They’re so stupid that they listen to you lecture on Brahmanism and think you brilliant. You are just plain wrong and nutty, but I guess that to the ill-informed it sounds brilliant.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 21, 2015 at 4:36 pm #

            He hates us more than he loves his own people! This is hatred indeed, is it not?

          • dannyboy June 21, 2015 at 7:40 pm #


            My life is generally filled with love.

            This experience of you is aberrant.

            You can soon go back to your shit unchallenged, as I have no interest in spending much time with your hate. Not love

            You deserve yourself. (you enjoy the doctrine of karma, don’t you?) You lose every way.

            Light and Love,

  126. FincaInTheMountains June 21, 2015 at 8:20 am #

    “What is wrong with Whites that they allow their Civilization to be savaged by these savages? ” — Janos

    The root of this evil is a desire by “developed” Nations and their elites to liberate the natural resources of the “developing” Nations from living on top of them local population.

    And that goes not by skin color or ethnicity. Red-skinned American Indians were exterminated with enviable Anglo Saxon efficiency, as well as currently we see happening with white-skinned South-East Ukrainians who have the impudence to live on top of rich shale gas deposits.

    Apparently, current informational-ideological space does not allow simply eliminating Libyans after successfully eliminating highly organized and functioning Libyan State by France and other NATO countries, and “liberated” population has all rights to do anything to survive, including overrunning their “liberator” habitats.

    • FincaInTheMountains June 21, 2015 at 8:25 am #

      And yes, please, do not forget to send your monthly $14.95 monthly check to your favorite charity to feed hungry African children, you, motherf*krs.

      • FincaInTheMountains June 21, 2015 at 8:30 am #

        Sorry, I should’ve not said that, it’s that Janos just sometimes gets under my skin.

        • BackRowHeckler June 21, 2015 at 11:26 am #

          Hey Fincain did the Russians exterminate anybody “with enviable efficiency”? I’m thinking of the so called ‘Kulaks’ 1931-1935. Robert Conquest claims in ‘Harvest of Sorrow’ about 8 million of them were exterminated “with enviable efficiency. How about it?


  127. wpa--ccc June 21, 2015 at 8:45 am #



    Some on CFN may be able to appreciate Heinberg’s realist and optimistic view our post-peak oil future. I felt encouraged to take action. The response we need is a grassroots movement of individuals taking personal responsibility for the management of resources in small communities.

    • VCS June 21, 2015 at 11:34 am #

      At your suggestion I read some reviews of Afterburn, then Heinberg’s introduction to the book (“Museletter 275” on his website). Looks excellent — balanced perspective — reasons for hope, but a new Dark Age if we are not careful and lucky. Certainly no cornucopian bullshit.
      I just ordered a copy. Thank you!

  128. FincaInTheMountains June 21, 2015 at 9:09 am #

    PR-managers of the Fed finally managed to invent one good news story about US economy: 10-dollar bill will have a woman image.

    Apparently, monthly rants on raising the interest rates cannot be repeated indefinitely. At some point, enthusiastic audience begins to suspect that the interest rate will not be raised in the foreseeable future due to objective economic reasons: rising interest rates would mean increased payments back to producing countries with positive trade balance, which really do not deserve it due to their inferior “developing” status.

  129. FincaInTheMountains June 21, 2015 at 9:55 am #

    WP: Russian official wants to investigate whether U.S. moon landings actually happened

    The increasingly tense relationship between the United States and Russia might be about to face a new challenge: a Russian investigation into American moon landings.

    In an op-ed published by Russian newspaper Izvestia on Tuesday, Vladimir Markin, a spokesman for the government’s official Investigative Committee, argued that such an investigation could reveal new insights into the historical space journeys.

    “We are not contending that they did not fly [to the moon], and simply made a film about it. But all of these scientific — or perhaps cultural — artifacts are part of the legacy of humanity, and their disappearance without a trace is our common loss. An investigation will reveal what happened,” Markin wrote, according to the Moscow Times translation.

    The op-ed is unlikely to raise worries among NASA officials. In 2009, NASA itself admitted that it had erased the original video recordings of the first moon landing among 200,000 other tapes in order to save money, according to Reuters.

    However, NASA has since restored copies of the landing, using recordings from other sources such as CBS News. The organization says that due to restoration efforts, the recordings’ quality is superior to the original one that has gone missing.

    So, why is Investigative Committee member Markin speculating about conspiracy theories surrounding U.S. moon landings that happened decades ago?


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  130. progress4what June 21, 2015 at 10:01 am #

    “Of not wasting my time.” – q, on voting –

    You’re retired, right? Doesn’t your state have early voting? Doesn’t your state have a system of mail-in absentee ballots? Come on, man – you could vote in less that five minutes of half-hearted effort. You have another reason, I believe, deeply held and unstated. The reason is also illogical, which should drive you bonkers until you bring it out in the open and discuss it.

    BTB and a few others – I’d still like to hear your defense of non-voting as a strategy for —- ? —–

    And Happy Father’s Day – to those who claim the title.

    • progress4what June 21, 2015 at 10:04 am #

      Make that “those who deserve the title.” Anybody can claim anything in the logic vortex that the US has become.

      Is Bruce Jenner still a Father? What’s he doing today? Will “Caitlyn” Jenner now celebrate Mother’s Day? Also? Instead?

      What a mess.

      • BackRowHeckler June 21, 2015 at 11:17 am #

        Good questions, all.

        My guess is the whole Jenner saga, having served its purpose, will be fading to black pretty soon, and by the time his TV show gets half way thru its run everyone will be pretty sick of the whole subject, Jenner, Kardashians, Freaks, transvestites, queers, all of it.

        Transvestites all by themselves don’t have the numbers to form any lasting political movement, but are a convenient prop for west and east coast lefties to undermine what remains of middle America. Around here the ‘transgender community’, in an unlikely alliance, has teamed up with the ‘Black lives matter’ movement, joining them in marches, mostly stopping traffic and causing chaos in Hartford, which says alot.


        • Janos Skorenzy June 21, 2015 at 3:46 pm #

          You’re reading it all wrong. Everyone is going to be encouraged to become “gender queer” or “gender fluid”. This is a MASSIVE initiative by the Elite. They are Occultists and want to create the Divine Androgyne or Adam Kadmon here on Earth – a blasphemy that is really the worship of Baphomet.

        • Buck Stud June 21, 2015 at 5:45 pm #

          “Transvestites all by themselves don’t have the numbers to form any lasting political movement, but are a convenient prop for west and east coast lefties to undermine what remains of middle America. ”

          Yes of course–it’s the coastal lefties who have been engineering the systematic economic stratification of America that has been the true demise of “middle America’!

          Leave it to BRH to ignore the far more pernicious effects of GOP/Right wing economic policy on middle class America and instead grope for the ‘transvestite/lefty’ cause.

          • BackRowHeckler June 21, 2015 at 11:49 pm #

            Economic stratification?

            How about bringing in 70 million 3rd world immigrants in a half century, competing for jobs with native born Americans? do you think that caused any ‘economic stratification?


      • Janos Skorenzy June 21, 2015 at 4:01 pm #

        Remember, the lesser of two (or more in the case of the primaries) evil is still evil. Thus the System has been moved to the dark side, slowly at first but now in almost free fall.

        Here’s real explanation of the transformation of Bruce Jenner into a Cult figure.


  131. BackRowHeckler June 21, 2015 at 11:50 am #

    Well, it continues.

    As terrible as events in Charleston were, last nite 10 shot in Detroit at a basketball court, and 9 shot in Philly at a kids birthday party.

    Maybe 2015 is the year the center ceases to hold, and the US falls apart, who knows.

    Its going to be one helluva summer, that much is clear, and today is the first day of summer.


    • malthuss June 21, 2015 at 12:09 pm #

      Only Black lives matter, if they are killed by YT.

  132. nsa June 21, 2015 at 12:08 pm #

    Reason magazine, a very tame libertarian rag (logo: free minds and free markets), is not quite so free anymore. As a psyops experiment we here in Ft. Meade had one of our flunky fed courts issue subpoenas for the names and email addresses of several Reason site commenters. We have since discovered that most commenters at Reason display less courage than the average house cat, as most of the anti-statist rhetoric has now disappeared…..some so fearful they flipped from libertarian to outright lefty do-gooder exceeding the views of even asoka….er wpa. This may give some pause to several of the commenters at this site…..

  133. FincaInTheMountains June 21, 2015 at 12:49 pm #

    “Hey Fincain did the Russians exterminate anybody “with enviable efficiency”? I’m thinking of the so called ‘Kulaks’ 1931-1935.” — brh

    In total during collectivization process of 1930s 381,026 families (1,803,392 persons) were sent to special settlements. Total number of kulaks in places of settlement by the end of the process was 1,421,380 people. The fate of remaining 382,012 persons is unknown. However, that does not mean that they all perished – a lot could’ve escaped during resettlement.

    Now you are welcome to estimate how many American Indians were exterminated. You could start your research right here: “The Great California Genocide” http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/08/15/567667/-The-Great-California-Genocide

    • Janos Skorenzy June 21, 2015 at 3:52 pm #

      Even PC Wikipedia says 7 to 10 million. Nice try, Commie.


      • FincaInTheMountains June 21, 2015 at 6:06 pm #

        Janos, your blind hatred of Jews and Blacks is starting to affect your reasoning -We are not talking about “Holodomor” (Great Famine in USSR), but the results of “collectivization” and prosecution of Kulaks.

        Or would you rather throw in the mix people who died during 2 World Wars?

        • Janos Skorenzy June 21, 2015 at 7:19 pm #

          What’s the difference? The deaths resulted from the persecution and collectivization of the Ukrainian farmers. The Holodomor refers to them. Obviously Russian farmers were also persecuted and collectivized too – thus the total death toll is far, far higher. You are playing with these things to minimize the death toll of White Christians at the hands of Communists and Jews.

  134. Q. Shtik June 21, 2015 at 3:23 pm #

    You’re retired, right? Doesn’t your state have early voting? – Prog


    There is so much more involved in “not wasting my time” than the actual time to go to my polling station (under 5 minutes) and vote. I don’t have the time nor inclination to give every Tom, Dick and Hillary my full attention for up to two years as though I thought they were as deserving as they think they are of my attention.

    As a matter of fact the very fact that I am responding to your question is wasting not only MY time but yours and others who may be reading this. It (this response) will have no bearing on anything by this time tomorrow, or sooner.

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  135. FincaInTheMountains June 21, 2015 at 3:39 pm #

    Madness of the Printing Press

    Course for world domination and maintaining the status as the sole superpower has lost its unequivocal appeal to sane patriots in USA, especially after they have once climbed up the gaping heights only to cause irreparable damage to US technosphere, sending the better parts of it off to China, and experience the serious consequences of the madness of the printing press, triggered by the dotcom boom of the 90s. One of these consequences is the current economic crisis, which is the “crisis of overproduction”, in this case – the overproduction of dollars and debts, which dollars are used to pay for.

    The dotcom boom “happened” during the presidency of Bill Clinton, and the Dow Jones index then rose 5 times in 4 years (i.e. by 400%, although the real economy has been growing at 3-4% per year), making US to resort to the printing press to provide cash equivalent for increased valuations of US companies. That gave rise to a bubble of mortgage lending when dot-com businesses collapsed and the “extra” dollars streamed into real estate.

    Therefore, it was the Clinton administration (but now it should be clear who is the real man and the president in the family) responsible for the consequences of the madness of the printing press.

    Accordingly, the only threat to the United States today are the politicians in the United States, which can be carried away by false analogies with the past, not realizing that after the experience of the damned 90s the temperature of the cold war could rather quickly heat up to several million degrees.


  136. Janos Skorenzy June 21, 2015 at 4:20 pm #

    As you all can see, I am deeply versed in Lore of the Enemy. Go thou and do likewise.

    Is this Lore a Lure for the unwary? It could be if your heart is not pure. Most of you will be protected by your somewhat pedestrian natures (compared to mine). No offence – after all the Earth is sacred too.

    In the Dybbik, one of the most beautiful love stories ever written, the protagonist delves into forbidden Kabbalistic knowledge and destroys his life in an effort to get a rich girl betrothed to another. But the Rebbe reveals that they had been promised to each other, and that a great force was behind his attempt – and that the father of the girl was at great fault for keeping them apart and driving the boy to desperate measures.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 21, 2015 at 4:33 pm #

      Questioned by the Rebbe, the Father admits that the boy (now dead and a Dybbik possessing his daughter) had dined at his table for a time (wealthy Jews used to put up poor students). The Rebbe asked if he had done or said anything to offend the boy. The father thought and finally in consternation admitted that boy was the son of an old friend from his youth. When they were both still poor they had prayed during the High Holy Days that their children intermarry so that the families always be close. Heaven answered their prayers and gave one a boy and the other a girl. The two men had drifted apart, one prospering and one not. The father admitted that he had never asked the poor boy any questions about himself and that at some level, he had known who he was and snubbed him – a most terrible crime against heaven. In despair, the boy had turned to the Book of the Angel Ratziel and its forbidden magic to attain his heart’s desire.

  137. FincaInTheMountains June 21, 2015 at 5:34 pm #

    Mystical meteorological factor of Russian winter

    In the Western world there is an idiomatic expression «Russian winter». This expression does not mean skiing or sledding, but an attempt to cover up mistakes in the planning of military incursions by Western armies into Russia and their subsequent failure. These systematic failures, of course, cannot be explained only by a weather factor, however simple list of cases of “Russian Winter” makes you wonder, especially that such “incompetent” generals had to cover their mistakes as Swedish king Karl XII, nicknamed Swedish Alexander the Great, Napoleon and Hitler.

    Charles XII commanded the strongest army in Europe and before his defeat in Russia managed to defeat the army of Denmark, Saxony and Poland. And he was able to inflict a heavy defeat to the Russian army of Peter the Great at Narva. But when his troops invaded Russia in 1708, and an unsuccessful siege of Smolensk forced him to spend the winter in Ukraine, this winter was the coldest in Europe in 30 years, so that even the salt water in the Gulf of Venice had frozen. As a result, 50,000th army of Charles XII lost from frost and related diseases up to third of its members, and that in a few months, no doubt, contributed to the victory of Peter the Great near Poltava.

    The Battle of Poltava, not only marked the end of the army of Charles XII, but also the Swedish Empire as the European superpower that put to its knees the whole Catholic Europe. It turned Russia into a major factor in geopolitics and militant Sweden, whose army was responsible for the deaths of up to 3 million in Russia in the Time of Troubles, and to 7 million in Germany during the 30 years of war, “Russian Winter” of 1708 turned into a traditionally neutral country.

    Leadership talent of Napoleon Bonaparte does not require evidence. But the invasion of the “great army” of Napoleon into Russia, of course, is of interest from mystical-meteorological point of view. The historical and geopolitical importance of the War of 1812 catches ones imagination. The French Revolution was a continuation of a series of revolutions in Europe and the Napoleonic Wars, modernizing continental Europe, have led to antagonistic conflict with the leader of a previous wave of modernization – the Anglo-Saxon elite of Britain and the United States. This conflict and the failure of Alexander the First of Russia to join the continental blockade of Britain was the cause of the invasion of Napoleon’s “great army” into Russia.

    The defeat of this army was the result of the courage of Russian troops at Borodino and Maloyaroslavets, but the complete destruction of this army was largely determined by a truly exceptional cold winter of 1812. If Napoleon had come from Russia as a head of shabby but real army, the unification of Western Europe, the UK and the US would very likely have happened at the beginning of the XIX century. With all the ensuing consequences for Russia and the rest of the world. Especially considering the mysterious circumstances surrounding the death of Emperor Paul the First of Russia and widespread of “Decembrists” secret societies. In any case, the possibility of Russian troops march to Paris could have been excluded.

    It is completely superfluous to comment of world historic significance of the Battle of Moscow in 1941 for Russia and the rest of humanity. At best, Nazi Europe would be exposed to the atomic bombing, and what would happen in the event of a complete victory of Hitler, one does not want to even think. It should be noted that on 4 December 1941, when Moscow was hit by forty-degree frost(-40 by Fahrenheit) and before the Nazi invincible army fighting with exhausted and poorly armed militias, stopped at the 3 hour tank ride to virtually unprotected Moscow, mystical meteorological factor showed itself fully.

    The next day began a counter-offensive of the Red Army, and two days later the Supreme Commander Stalin declared: “Our cause is just – we will win”, – practically repeating the words of St. Alexander Nevsky “The power of God is not in the force, but in the truth”. Then again Russia had to endure the shame of retreat to Volga, but a year later signed the surrender of general Paulus at Stalingrad, and after three and a half years, Field Marshal Keitel signed the act of unconditional surrender of Germany in Berlin. But it was after December 4, 1941 after Guderian tanks were unable to start their engines, and the 3 hours that separated them from Moscow, will forever remain in history.

    Indeed, the geopolitical stakes of the war of 08.08.08 were very high. After the cessation of gas supplies to Western Europe on Jan. 7 2009, losses of “Gazprom” in the context of the global economic crisis and falling oil prices became catastrophic. Moreover, the EU was clearly not willing to delve into the reasons for the termination of supplies and even the participation of observers in the monitoring of transit through Ukraine was very doubtful. But temperatures in the South-Western Europe dropped to -13 Fahrenheit and the EU observers rapidly started to work.

    Documented evidence of failure in the Ukrainian transit of gas had confirmed force majeure declared by “Gazprom”, and excluded the possibility of lawsuits, which makes further economic blockade of Russia only in the perspective of the fall in oil prices. But New York was hit by cold, unseen since the days of 1979, and the fall in oil prices has stopped. The coldest night of the year was the night of 16 to 17 January, and on the same day, Yulia Tymoshenko, the P.M. of Ukraine, signed the act on the resumption of transit.

    Two more interesting facts in this discourse

    April 17, 2010 the Icelandic volcano prevented the arrival of NATO leaders at the funeral of the Polish leaders who were killed in a plane crash in Russia. These funerals were to turn into a powerful anti-Russian demonstration in the prologue to the beginning of the construction of missile defense system in Poland. But the volcanic ash made it impossible to fly aircraft at the time of the funeral, and none of the European leaders could arrive.

    On February 18, 2011 State Department officials said they do not recognize the sovereignty of Russia over the Kuril Islands and are ready to support Japan’s claim to them. Japan shortly before it began to hint at the possibility of military solution of the issue. A March 11 earthquake occurred in Japan, followed by a terrible tsunami and the accident at the nuclear power plant “Fukushima”. Apparently, not only the “Gods of Winter” help Russia.


    • Janos Skorenzy June 21, 2015 at 7:33 pm #

      Great storms played havoc with the Mongolian invasion of Japan and the Spanish invasion of England. God willed otherwise. Likewise, Global Warming conferences have been deviled by heavy, early snow storms. One in London was in November in a high, heavily windowed conference hall. How embarrassing for the stooges inside.

    • elysianfield June 21, 2015 at 9:04 pm #

      “Gott mit du?”

      • FincaInTheMountains June 22, 2015 at 5:42 am #

        It is very likely that in Fukushima affair God had a little helping hand from Russian submarine fleet.

        However, there is a version that it was a botched US operation: they tried to hit Kuril Islands and missed.

        US started experiments in creating artificial tsunami in 1942, well before there were nuclear explosive devices. And nuclear power plant provides an excellent cover for any possible radioactive traces in the ocean.

  138. Buck Stud June 21, 2015 at 5:36 pm #

    One of the results of that murderous White Nationalist creep/asshole’s rampage will be far greater scrutiny of White Nationalist websites and the people who manage and post on those sites.

    Of course Dylan Mengele–and the website operators/posters–probably didn’t or couldn’t consider that result so great is/was the hate blinding these types.

    A perverse paradox indeed. Not only did D Mengele murder the innocent, but he aimed a bullet straight at the heart of the seminal source that spawned and nurtured his hate and proclivity for violence.

    Enjoy the white hot spotlight as they say: ‘White on White’ will take on a whole new meaning in the aftermath of this tragic event

    • Janos Skorenzy June 21, 2015 at 7:26 pm #

      Did you feel such passion when that Black murdered the Greek American family? No. Or when Black Jihadist John Lee Malvo and his adopted son killed about nine Whites? No.

      Face it Buck: you aren’t neutral. You identify with Blacks and not with Whites. You are part of a group that doesn’t include you as a member. And you can’t wait for the persecution of Whites to begin. Sick, sick, sick.

      • Buck Stud June 21, 2015 at 10:58 pm #

        Face it Janos: your extrapolations are ridiculous. As if I really can’t wait “for the persecution of Whites to begin.”

        What a drama queen you’ve become as of late…for a while there you were engaging in some nuanced and subtle thinking but the barbarian/reptilian aspect is reasserting itself again.

        Or maybe I’m just not watching enough Fess Parker/Daniel Boone reruns or throwing axes into trees.

  139. Buck Stud June 21, 2015 at 6:20 pm #


    I don’t disagree that unions/members have, in some instances, succumbed to base human nature and focused far more on the hand reaching out for reward than both hands engaging in righteous toil. We all know the type: the lazy apathetic worker who milks the system with unwarranted and continual workers comp claims etc,etc, etc and hides behind union protection while doing so. The unethical one might say

    But who else to save the day but the Right Wing Savior who now has a pretext with which to slash all wages and benefits to the bone for Main Street America in order to restore economic responsibility.

    As Kant asserted it’s fundamentally irrational–ultimately for both individuals and society– to do the wrong thing even if it promises momentary short term reward for certain individuals within the greater whole.

    But the ‘greater whole’/collectivism has been demonized by the right wing. Except of course when war’draft time comes around and then suddenly–miraculously!–it’s all for one and one for all.

    Of course a tree needs to be pruned of dead useless branches but instead of following nature, the right wing seeks to support gilded leaves of gold shimmering from the top perches with hollowed out trunks. IOW, not very fucking smart, or at least from a long term, rational perspective.

    As opposed to Nature who in her wisdom has ‘thickened’ that region where a branch inevitable breaks away. Just go look at any branch: a branch attaches more often than not on the convex side– or the side of ‘fullness and expansion’–while the concave side is often a subtle curve that engenders the ability for branches and boughs to ‘strive for the sunlight’. The concave curve side of a branch is countered by the expansion and fullness of the convex side and no more so that where a branch will inevitably break away

    To analogize with the current meme of the right wing, no side of a branch should be bestowed with ‘fullness’; all sides of the lower and middle sections must be thinned and pruned: “Cutbacks” and “Austerity” are the necessary cure!. But not for the ‘ top leaves’ of course. They will and must receive exceptional nourishment until they too no longer have any structural support beneath them.

    And the true reality is they’re ‘not to big to fail’ but too small to support themselves when the winds of a financial crisis of their own making start to swirl.

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    • Q. Shtik June 21, 2015 at 8:12 pm #

      I failed to mention it before but my f-I-l was a terrific worker both on the job and around the house. His home was meticulously maintained. He was rather contemptuous of people with time on their hands to read books.

  140. progress4what June 21, 2015 at 8:10 pm #

    “As a matter of fact the very fact that I am responding to your question is wasting not only MY time but yours and others who may be reading this. It (this response) will have no bearing on anything by this time tomorrow, or sooner.” – q –

    Q, you sound depressed. You OK?
    And your reply will have a bearing on how I feel about not voting.
    Not voting is wrong.
    The more intelligent and analytical one is, the worse not voting becomes. You should vote, Q.

    WPA, Buck, and millions of people who have IQ’s less than 90 will reliably vote for the likes of Hillary or Jeb because….crap.

    Bad thing. Very bad thing. No wonder the West is dying.

  141. FincaInTheMountains November 1, 2015 at 1:56 am #

    Kogalymavia was flying a beat up Airbus
    Very briefly check of the history of incidents with this aircraft gave the following result.
    According to , crashed aircraft was previously operated by Lebanese airline MEA and flew under the registration number F-OHMP.
    Search for that aircraft incident in the accident database gives a description of the incident by 2001 at the Cairo airport.

  142. FincaInTheMountains November 1, 2015 at 1:57 am #

    Kogalymavia was flying a beat up Airbus
    Very briefly check of the history of incidents with this aircraft gave the following result.
    According to airfleets dot net, crashed aircraft was previously operated by Lebanese airline MEA and flew under the registration number F-OHMP.
    Search for that aircraft incident in the accident database gives a description of the incident by 2001 at the Cairo airport.


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