Clusterfuck Nation
For your reading pleasure Mondays and Fridays
Support this blog by visiting Jim’s Patreon Page
NEW: A New Video Message From Your Blogger JHK
The only trouble with the conspiracy theory that hundreds of prominent and powerful people wanted Jeffrey Epstein dead is that Jeffrey Epstein might have wanted Jeffrey Epstein dead even more than they did. But that’s mere conjecture. His mind is beyond being read. Of course, the evidence of his alleged crimes didn’t die — the “meticulous” records he kept live on, along with the names of Mr. Epstein’s patrons, clients, marks, however you might classify the celebs drawn into the pulsating estrogenic bubble of his life, humming that old tune “Thank Heaven for Little Girls….”
I’m a little surprised that Attorney General William Barr didn’t have a heart attack upon learning the news. With Mr. Barr already fully engaged cleaning up the mighty mess in the Department of Justice, the FBI, and elsewhere — considerably aggravated by Robert Mueller’s bungled operations — another stink bomb leaves federal law enforcement beskunked, bothered, and bewildered. And now the FBI is being sent into investigate? That’s rich. America’s Deep State looks like a re-make of that marvelous 2018 movie The Death of Stalin, a fabulous burlesque of people in high places acting like dishonorable idiots.
The Federal Bureau of Prisons has some ‘splainin’ to do, and they didn’t bother doing much of that on Sunday after the news came out. They failed entirely at every critical point of responsibility for keeping the DOJ’s number one criminal suspect alive: took him off suicide watch a week after he tried to off himself (if that‘s what it was); failed to keep him on observation; failed to provide a cell-mate who might have alerted the guards; and failed to deploy viable video cameras to record the doings in his cell.
That’s a pretty sensational fail. You really can’t blame the public for feeling a little paranoid about the rot at the center of government. The death of Mr. Epstein may be a turning point in the public’s willingness to swallow any more official bullshit. A great many Americans — those who don’t rely on Rachel Maddow and The New York Times to do their reality testing for them — already must be impatient with the (so far) utter lack of accountability among officials implicated in that other Keystone Kops episode, the RussiaGate fiasco.
Like the sordid case of Jeffrey Epstein, RussiaGate was an affair with the tentacles of Hillary Clinton entangled through it. It was an astounding feat of legerdemain that Mr. Mueller managed to spend two years investigating the matter, and then put out 400-plus pages of a report, without ever noticing that Mrs. Clinton’s chief campaign oppo ops contractor, Glenn Simpson, was the originator of the whole thing. It may have been a too-fine point for the moiling multitudes in Flyover-land, but surely some of the spellbound Muellerites among the coastal thinking class were taken aback when the Great Man fumbled it so abysmally in his recent performance before the House Intelligence Committee.
Jeffrey Epstein is the first character in this multi-thread melodrama to turn up dead suspiciously — if you don’t count the unresolved murder of DNC employee Seth Rich, the possible conduit of those now-legendary DNC emails to Wikileaks. Rich was found on a Washington DC sidewalk with two bullets in his back and his wallet and cell phone both still on his person at the murder scene. The allegations connecting Seth Rich to the DNC email “leak” are supposedly “debunked,” only with no evidence, really, one way or the other, just the say-so of interested parties. It is often averred that Julian Assange could answer that riddle definitively, but Mr. Assange has not played that card (and Mr. Mueller never interviewed him).
In any case, Mr. Epstein’s supposed suicide has rocked the establishment again. The shock was palpable across the news-scape yesterday in the dearth of information the media managed to scare up in the first twenty-four hours about the most obvious questions. As I write, there’s still no “definitive” cause-of-death from the New York City medical examiner. What might they be looking for? Signs of a struggle, suggesting that Mr. E’s suicide was assisted, shall we say? Chemical analysis of his blood? Who knows what’s holding back the info? And even if foul play can’t be demonstrated, the fishy incident spreads ever more odium across US officialdom.
Meanwhile, any number of disgraced federal officials, whose misdeeds are richly documented in the public record, remain on the loose. Andrew McCabe, Bruce, Ohr, Peter Strzok, James Comey, John Brennan, James Clapper, and many more — once the cream of the upper echelons of federal authority! The Epstein debacle puts more pressure on William Barr, John Durham, and Michael Horowitz to get on with their jobs. All these unresolved mysteries give Americans a reason to want to arm themselves against a recklessly rogue and sinister government.
This blog is sponsored this week by McAlvany ICA. To learn more visit: //icagoldcompany.com/
Previously Unpublished!
From the Jeff Greenaway Series
New Paintings by JHK 2016 — 2017
Great Summer Reading… JHK’s Hippie Novel!
“Simply the best novel about the 1960s.”
Read the first chapter here (click) on Patreon
Buy the book at Amazon or click on the cover below
or get autographed copies from Battenkill Books
Now in Paperback !
Only Seven Bucks!
JHK’s Three-Act Play
A log mansion in the Adirondack Mountains…
A big family on the run…
A nation in peril…
Other Books by JHK
The World Made By Hand Series:
Book 1: |
Book 2: |
   |
|
Book 3: |
Book 4: |
|
|
 |
 |
  |
|
Support this blog by visiting Jim’s Patreon Page
This blog is sponsored this week by Vaulted, an online mobile web app for investing in allocated and deliverable physical gold. To learn more visit:Kunstler.com/vaulted
New Paintings from the 2022 Season
Barrel Racers, Cambridge, NY
Other Books by JHK
The World Made By Hand Series:
| Book 1: |
Book 2: |
Book 3: |
Book 4: |
|
|
|
|
|
|
The reactions to the Epstein “suicide” are almost as telling as the event itself. It shows nothing less than a complete loss of faith in existing institutions, which is a classic symptom of civilization decline. See https://darkageprep.com/2019/08/11/too-dangerous-to-live/ for more on this topic.
Jeff lives [in Israel?]
Mossad?
What about his accomplice, with the funny name?
What about his accomplice, with the funny name? – Malthuss
===========
I assume you mean Ghislaine Maxwell? Yeah, it’s a first name you don’t hear every day. Coincidentally it’s the name of my wife’s best bud. She’s a mulatto. Daughter of a French woman and a black man (American).
“The reactions to the Epstein “suicide” are almost as telling as the event itself. ”
True. So many have a sense of the unraveling, just waiting to see what comes next. The current situation is so bizarre that there is not so much a feeling of fear for what’s next as a “get on with it” kind of feeling.
It’s right out of the Godfather. Follow the money and bank accounts of the guards, and wait for someone to live large. Then, unravel the yarn.
Of course there might be a few more suicides and mysterious car fires along the way.
My God, everything is so corrupted by money in the US (ain’t capitalism grand)? This could go Hong Kong, at any time. All someone has to do is take out a few Mountain Dew bottling plants after shooting up some Walmarts. Trumptards will react and here we go, Martial Law and Emergency Decrees, say around 2020? (Just to keep someone out of jail).
Any guards involved will be dead in 90 days. Probably shot at a deserted intersection like before. No way Bill and Hillary would chance being exposed!
No one hates the Clintons more than i do. But I suspect this hit was ordered at a much higher level.
Hundreds of elitists were at risk of exposure. And we may stil have Epstein’s journal entries. Sure that helps, But without live witness testimony, it’s just a bunch of names written in a book – not legal proof of anything.
Your narrative is a gross mischaracterization of reality.
Tell me are Antifa Trump supporters?
Are the Neo-Nazi white power types Trump supporters?
The answer to both is a firm hell no.
Just who routinely engages in violence as a way to over throw the establishment?
At least in this country it appears to be anarchists and leftist in the form or Socialist and Communists.
You must be new to conspiracy theories. The guards will simply end up dead in a short time.
Oh yeah, and as for the Trumptards comment, GFY, moron.
Don’t go for the ad hominem, simply destroy his Shareblue narrative with facts.
Like the fact that Virginia G’s recently released testimony from the initial Epstein trial contains multiple passages that she never heard of or saw Trump with any of Epstein’s girls, nor was he ever at the island or any of Eppy’s compounds. Then point out Trump banned Epstein from his properties after an alleged assault by Epstein. Then point out that Trump’s DOJ has been quietly pursuing child trafficking cases in a rate previously unheard of.
Then proceed to ask the goblin about Bill Clinton, Tony Podesta, and co.
@nightowl
Pretty sure the NPC calling itself Paulo is a piss poor rendition of AI driven detritus.
Notice it drives by splatters fecal matter in the form of nonsense and anti-trumpster dumpster dredging’s and moves on.
“My God, everything is so corrupted by money in the US (ain’t capitalism grand)?”
This isn’t capitalism. This is fascism.
Find that weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq yet which the US violated the Geneva Conventions to start a war over?
Figure out what brought down WTC build number SEVEN yet?
*Shrug* – I think we’ve hit the breaking point where even the average joe is going to realize that their government is about as truthful as the USSR was back in 1985. We’ve been in 20 MISERABLE years of this.
Hi, John. I read your entry and, while I don’t have anything to say about Epstein’s death except “good riddance,” I do about another point your brought up: “They no longer believe that the political process is fair and honest – vote fraud, gerrymandering, foreign interference, courts overruling voters, etc.” That list doesn’t even include the ability of bad actors to use big data derived from social media, particularly Facebook, to manipulate voters. That’s the subject of at least two documentaries, “The Facebook Dilemma” on “Frontline,” which has been nominated for two News and Documentary Emmy Awards, and the Netflix documentary “The Great Hack,” which explores how online data affects public opinion focusing on the Cambridge Analytica scandal. Who needs Russian interference when a British company will do the job?
Nothing to say about the death of a billion butterflies being more important than the death of one man? I’m not a Utilitarian, that is a shallow self serving philosophy; but perhaps I’ll make an exception. Epstein’s life was not worth a billion times the life of a Monarch Butterfly.
A serious question. But if you want a good laugh, re-read this line:
“
The death of Mr. Epstein may be a turning point in the public’s willingness to swallow any more official bullshit.
That made me laugh so hard I had to pee.
Did you find a fire hydrant? LOL.
Just in time.
Well isn’t it a bit silly to believe that people are going to care about the deaths of a billion monarch butterflies if they don’t care about what did or did not happen to Epstein?
People care. The thought of this choad living large in seclusion in a faraway place is driving people to distraction.
He paid one of the guards to bring in a rope. That’s an expensive piece of rope!
Neonicotinoid Toxicity will be discovered as the ultimate cause. Neonicotinoid pesticides are killing ‘pollinators’ across the land in record numbers. Epstein must not have been aware of the danger enough to Beeware of the danger. As a pollinator he was highly susceptible.
The handshake!
I’m sure it will be one of the ultimate causes. I live in a rural area with no use of neonicotinoid pesticides as far as I can tell. If it is still occurring, it is declining. Nonetheless, when our village received its first 4G cellular antenna a couple of years ago, the pollinators in my yard disappeared, but we still had them in our main field not too far away. This year they were gone. The smart meter rollout hit our area, and now there are seven smart meters facing our field at short distances.
In one corner of the field, I still see cabbage butterflies and bees busy working over a catnip bush. That bush is the furthest from the smart meters and has its view of the nearest one blocked by at least 5 meters of thick foliage from hydrangea bushes. A catnip plant within view of the meter will get visited occasionally by a butterfly. The broccoli near our greenhouse, which is heavily affected by the meters remains completely untouched by the cabbage butterflies.
We had a very poor yield of blueberries near one of the smart meters.
The other day, my husband put out pieces of a rotting watermelon near two of the smart meters (10 meters away). In years past in August, this would have attracted various butterflies, several hornet species and giant beetles. This year, nothing at all! Except a small variety of fly, there are no insects attracted to that watermelon. Not even ants.
In March/April of this year the crows and kites that had been residing adjacent to our field all left. I hear the familiar call of one of the crows in the distance from time to time, but day after day I monitor that field. One day a month ago, one kite came back, and then an hour or so later left again. For a while we still had wagtails around the greenhouse, then they left too. Now we still have barn swallows. They have a major nesting site out of range of the nearest smart meters. Sparrows and starlings used to nest around the houses near our field, but no longer do. They show up in hungry mobs and raid our field from time to time. All the farmers have had trouble with them.
In Japan, this technological rollout is resulting in a major loss of habitat for birds accustomed to being around humans. I go into the city and see not a single bird. A temple with very loud cicadas in past years had no cicadas.
There is good news and bad news to this. The bad news is according to the technofabulists, the Internet is forever and ever, hallelujah, amen. Ssergorp the Unstoppable demands living sacrifices. The good news is they’re wrong: Peak Resources will come to the rescue, and unlike with chemicals that can persists for ages, once these things do get turned off, the damage will cease, and then pockets of these creatures that have somehow been spared this scourge can start repopulating the landscape once more. Our idiotic use of destructive chemicals will probably cease at roughly the same time.
But until then, we may lose quite a few important species, possibly even our own.
Hint, hint?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp7FkLBRpKg
I heard they found him dead from suicide, with two bullets in the back of his head.
After having read histories of previous empires which collapsed what a strange experience to be a citizen of just such an empire in the present day. To witness some of the tell-tale signs which before seemed just a fascinating read now occurs to a man as a visceral nightmare. May God help us all.
I’ve wondered for years what a resident of Rome, about the year 400, must have been thinking, before the sack (which wasn’t that bad, actually) of the city in 410, when the rulers of the Empire, then in Ravenna or Milan, decided to sacrifice the interests of Roman Citizens to preserve their privileges. It’s grim to contemplate but also freeing: they don’t care about us, so why obey them? Their power becomes increasingly thin.
Life in the Western Empire actually improved from about the year 400 to about the year 650: with Christianization, you had increasing populations and increasing commerce. All that ended when trade with the East was cut off by the Rise of Mohammed; details, for the curious, in the book Mohammed and Charlemagne.
So to would our civilization flourish without a parasitic class of Elites who destroy the Nation for the idols of Power and Profits.
Are you being rhetorical or facetious?
rhetorical
I should add that England really did enter a dark age with the collapse of Rome, whichhad destroyed the native economy and governance.
Life flourished with Christianization. Exactly. The alternative is indeed grim to contemplate Dr Tom.
To use Pitirim Sorokin’s words, a sensate age yielded to a ideate age. Roman Civilization ran out of rich neighbors it could conquer, and its underlying religious viewpoint was unable to sustain it. The future belongs to those who show up for it, and Rome had declining birth rates.
We’ve been a sensate civilization since about 1500, and It has worked wonders in material plenty. The fact is that no Westernized population is replacing itself: it’s future isn’t showing up. Mormons, Trad Catholics, Orthodox Jews, Amish might well own the future, as they’re the groups showing up for it.
Them, and millions of immigrants to the USA.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=XJ&most_recent_year_desc=true
Countries like Argentina are still around 2.3 births per woman, while US is around 1.7
It’s interesting to see the decline for pretty much all countries since 1960
Interesting also, in terms of the widespread paranoia on the matter, that Muslim birthrates are falling too, except where women are oppressed and uneducated:
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/11/muslim-overpopulation-myth/545318/
For exactly the same reasons that they plummet elsewhere – the negative correlation between birth rates and (a) prosperity and (b) number of years of education.
If you want to increase the birth rate among your own people, go Taliban and take your daughters out of school.
It’s amazing how few know about the influence of Christianity on Western Civilization. Why do I have the feeling that its influence in the next dark age would not be nearly so beneficial? However, there will have to be something to unify and it won’t be either the Democrat or Republican parties.
Race and Culture.
I wonder is the barbarian migrations consisted of people who did the jobs “Romans didn’t want to do”. Like soldiering,perhaps?
RIB, maybe that’s why the left is for unfettered immigration, to fight the civil war for them.
In the later Roman Empire, many of the legions consisted of non-Roman soldiers
“The adoption by the 4th-century army of barbarian (especially Germanic) dress, customs and culture, suggesting enhanced barbarian influence. For example, Roman army units adopted mock barbarian names e.g. Cornuti = “horned ones”, a reference to the German custom of attaching horns to their helmets, and the barritus, a German warcry. Long hair became fashionable, especially in the palatini regiments, where barbarian-born recruits were numerous.[195]”
from Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Roman_army#Recruitment
How about Ghengis Kahn, when did he show up?
His cavalry, millions strong and armed with those deadly short bows, must’ve been a wet blanket thrown over any european festivities.
I know he only got as far as Hungary, but still …
Brh
It was reported on this AM that guards had not been doing the mandated 30 minute safety checks on Epstein the days just prior and during the day he was found dead.
I’ve worked in similar environments, and staff not performing safety checks is highly irregular. At the minimum, it’s negligent behavior which you would have been disciplined for– and what makes everyday negligent behavior implausible in this case was the high profile of the dead man.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-checked-for-hours-apparent-suicide
correction there.. safety checks had not been performed for “hours before death”.. which is still negligent behavior. Furthermore, his cell mate had been removed Friday.
If Epstein was suicidal, he was given the opportunity with these actions by the prison. So, it’d be interesting to find out what the FBI interviews of the staff would reveal, if anything.
Interesting perspective. I found the removal of the cell mate to be the most interesting part of the story. Hear no evil, see no evil. These irregularities only serve to feed the out of control rumor mills. Is this perhaps the desired outcome?
Ann Coulter believed the arrest of Epstein in New York was not a serious attempt at prosecution, but to see whether it could be tied (in some of the public’s minds) to Donald Trump, through his pick of Labor Secretary.
They couldn’t make any stronger connection, although they tried.
Right now it’s being spread around the internet that Donald Trump had Epstein killed, so you can see that the death benefitted more than a few people.
Yes and I believe you will see an amazing amount of energy expended by the media, the late night comedy shows, and any Hollywood celebrity willing to make it to the cameras to pin anything and everything surrounding this case to DJT. Russiagate didn’t work so maybe an Epsteingate will? Typically nothing sticks to Teflon Don though so we will see. I think since there are already so many very mainstream doubts about the official narrative that it will be difficult to isolate all of the blame to him but I guess we will see.
I’m pro-Trump. But even I am wondering: if Trump and Barr wanted Epstein to live, why were they so negligent and lackadaisical about his safety? They are not stupid and naive.men.
Of course, I could start a conspiracy theory. Epstein did not die, but Trump & company want everyone to think that he did. At a later date they will pull him out of hiding to testify. This is a more satisfying variant on the ‘living happily ever after in Israel theory’. We want him to testify, not enjoy a long carefree retirement.
When Acosta was being vetted for the Labor Secretary job he was asked if his decision on the Epstein matter would be a problem and Acosta said, “I was told not to be concerned about Epstein because he belonged to Intelligence.”
When Acosta was asked recently to elucidate on that he said, “No comment.”
I can’t help but wonder if anyone in Congress investigating Epstein’s untimely death (cough) will ask about what exactly Intelligence was up to with Epstein. Because we know for sure no one in the FBI will go there.
Arkancide
Never before have we seen a piece of official ‘news’ so instantly and widely disbelieved, as the alleged ‘suicide’ of Jeffrey Epstein in USA federal custody … ZeroHedge even ballyhooing how fake and impossible it is
The connections of US Attorney General William Barr and his father to Epstein are remarkable … Barr and his father both having been CIA-intel agency officers too
Bill Barr’s father Donald Barr, was born Jewish & converted to Roman Catholicisim. Don Barr worked for the CIA predecessor OSS during WW2, then became a school headmaster … who hired Jeffrey Epstein for his first job, to teach teen boys & girls at the posh NYC Dalton School, 1973-75
Donald Barr, it turns out, was fascinated by sexual enslavement as much as Jeffrey Epstein, and at the same time Barr hired Epstein, he published a fantasy novel about such eros slavery, ‘Space Relations’, still available on the web
Also during that same time, Don Barr’s son, young William Barr, was a CIA officer, 1973-77, the CIA supporting Bill Barr whilst he went to night law school, Barr working under George H W Bush toward the end of that time
When not in government helping out the CIA – including when Bill Barr became Attorney General for his CIA boss, George HW Bush during 1991-93, Bill Barr worked for the Kirland & Ellis law firm … one of the clients of which, was Jeffrey Epstein
Gordon Duff of Veterans Today, says flat-out that, with the Epstein blackmail files in the hands of Ghislaine Maxwell, the daughter of ‘Israeli super-spy Robert Maxwell’, that the “massive blackmail files … more than 2000 names … [including] on Trump, led Attorney General William Barr, working with his lifelong partners at the CIA and Israeli intelligence, to get Epstein to safety” ,,, Jeffrey landing in Tel Aviv, the Epstein ‘suicide’ having been cover for a ‘Mossad jailbreak’ run by the intel boys
The distinguished anti-Semites of the Kunstler blog just got a reinforcement.
No reinforcement, he seems to have just laid out some facts, and trusts each to come to their own conclusions? Am I wrong?
The key “fact” in his timeline is false. Donald Barr was not even at the school when Epstein came on board. The entire post is based off of talking points from the “Daily Beast.” And we all know the “Daily Beast” would never lie to us.
Even if Don Barr had left the school, it shows that both Epstein and the Barr family were neck deep in the same exclusive, elitist club. They were brothers in arms against all us unwashed deplorable useless eaters.
To implicate a government in actions that serve their interests, is in no way anti-Semitic.
By using that term in your comment, shows the weakness of your argument.
Had Brabantian said all those F*(king J&*s in Israel are responsible and must held accountable for this, I would agree with your comment.
IMHO, the leadership of Israel is not, and has never acted in the best interest of the “Jewish” Semitic people. The leadership of Israel, is not moral, just or deserving of any respect.
Criticizing them is NOT anti Semitic.
The ideological kitchen of Hillary Clinton is working overtime generating all sorts of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories regarding Epstein’s “suicide”, influencing all kinds of people as a red rag waved in front of a bull’s nose.
No wander, Hillary is an old “mortal friend” of Israel, since the Oslo agreements.
Would that be the same anti-Semitic Hillary who married off her only child to a Jew?
I hope you all know that the “birther” conspiracy against President Obama was cooked up in the same Hillary’s kitchen and forced on Donald Trump to spread under the threat of hurting his real estate business in New York.
Sorry though. He was a Kenyan. That is how he saw himself whether it was official or not. Home is where the Heart is.
Link?
DrTS,
Here’s a starter:
https://www.coreysdigs.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Obama-file-with-exhibits-watermark.pdf
Make of it what you will.
Really? I thought it was one of Roger Ailes’ nasty little plots.
“The Loudest Voice”
Actually Mr. Fincaln is correct. during the Dem Primaries in 2008 the Hillary campaign was the first to bring up Obama’s eligibility to be President due to questions over where he was born. They didn’t push it too hard and let it go pretty quickly. McCain was encouraged by some to use it in the general election against Obama, but he declined.
Just like criticizing blacks is not racist? Try to get away with that one
A very appropriate and important point! They create “untouchables” to punish us, and many of us fall for it. But not anymore!
Nice. Thanks for the sitrep. Appreciated.
RA
Interesting info! I found it incomprehensible how AG Barr could be so incompetent in protecting and surveiling the jailed Epstein. Let’s see how quickly they cremate “the body”.
Jews are rarely cremated and he should have been buried by sunset yesterday or today at the latest.
Not sure if his body will be released to his brother Mark for burial?
Now that Baden is in on the caper with the autopsy (hired by Epstein’s lawyers) plus considering toxicology results take four to six weeks to come back, the quick report the MSM need may be slow coming.
If he was given “a noose on a bun” for his meals it might have caused a cumulative and lethal level of poison to cause renal failure etc.
At any rate, if he IS dead, it looks like they might want to keep him under wraps until all the tests are conclusive.
I’m not sure Epstein and family are very observant of Orthodox Jewish burial practices.
…Jeffrey landing in Tel Aviv…
Completely possible.
…Jeffrey landing in the City of London is even more plausible…
Name me Israeli politicians implicated in the pedofhile sect.
Former Israeli PM Ehud Barack. Though he says he never met any girls. Did he meet boys?
Israeli Politician Ehud Barak Often Crashed at Epstein Apartment Building, Neighbors Say Residents of a building owned by Jeffrey Epstein’s brother say the former Israeli prime minister was a frequent guest when he was in New York.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-israeli-politician-ehud-barak-often-crashed-at-his-manhattan-apartment-neighbors-say
Israel’s Ehud Barak: I Visited Epstein’s Island But Never Met Any Girls
https://www.thedailybeast.com/israels-ehud-barak-i-visited-epsteins-island-but-never-…
I clicked on the Daily Beast article and it is already gone!!!!!
And they revile us as “conspiracy theorists” just because we notice the cover-ups, the lies, the censorship, and all the MSM bull shit!
If they were better at this then we wouldn’t have any “conspiracies” to discuss. I only wonder though if they actually want all of the conspiracies flying around? After all, it helps them since there is no truth that will be known. It’s just as bad as having no information at all really.
SSL, I think the globalist elite are the authors of some conspiracy theories. They love to sew confusion, dissension, and watch us chasing our tails around like crazed canines! (No offense K-Dog.)
The challenge is separating the wheat from the chaff.
I think you’re probably right about that. While we are all busy looking for clues they are busy executing their schemes. They are getting very bold though and once they take our guns away they will be able to do everything right out in the open and not be challenged.
Maybe that link is faulty…here it is:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-israeli-politician-ehud-barak-often-crashed-at-his-manhattan-apartment-neighbors-say
..and the second one failed too:
try https://www.thedailybeast.com/israels-ehud-barak-i-visited-epsteins-island-but-never-met-any-girls
None taken.
Yet.
One of my favorite Dershowitz story’s from the blonde sex slave Guiffre was when she was 14 and was ordered to give Dershowitz a BJ in the back of the limo while Epstein and Ghislaine watched. This took place on the way to Dershowtz’house in Massachusetts. To the home where presumably his wife was waiting to have “great sex” as Dershowitz claims they do. A lot!
Bravo. He walked right into that one. The arrogance of underestimating one’s opponent.
Very interesting post. At the end of it all these people are all connected by family relationships, schools and social circles. There is no way to get around it. Therefore the self interests cannot be discounted and neither can the lengths they would go to, to keep bad publicity and exposure at bay. The sad reality is that we will really never know what happened and 50 years from now some people will believe that Epstein lived out the rest of his years lounging on a beach outside the InterContinental David Tel Aviv.
You really didn’t need to open your mouth for us to know what you were going to say.
Oh is that the case??!! I didn’t say it was true or real. I suggested that we would never really know the truth so people will fill in the gaps for themselves.
Neither do you, Fin. Leave SSL alone you big bully. You want a second opinion? OK you’re crazy, too!
hehe tank you!!!
SSL is right in stating that we can never know the truth, which is a damned shame. I do believe she realizes that the absolute ultimate danger that Mr. Epstein posed once incarcerated made killing him off the only logical way for them to go. Much too dangerous to bail him out and hide him somewhere, dead is safest.
Yes I think its abundantly clear that Epstein needed to disappear for the sakes of many big and important people. There was no way he was going to live to tell the tale. Now that could be figurative or literal at this point but who could know that other than those directly involved?
We’ll probably never know, but it’s possible. High level agents must have absolute loyalty. And at that level, that means being loyal to them as well. Some have said that a body double may have been used for the corpse. Jeff may already being enjoying the famed brothels of Tel Aviv, plush with girls trafficked from Russia and Eastern Europe.
In any case, believing in Conspiracies is eminently rational since that is the way the world works. The Founding Fathers were Conspirators after all. Conspiracy Theories are variable, some good and many bad. The Bad flourish since there is now way to prove or disprove except the test of commonsense and internal consistency. Dismissing all Conspiracy Theory and thus Conspiracy itself is just plain silly.
Hillary called rumours about her failing health “conspiracy theories”, right before she collapsed in public.
I love how they try to make people feel guilty or just idiotic by labeling every little question or dismissal of official narratives as a conspiracy. They would like to make the label Conspiracy Theorist as scary and life altering as Racist. They are very expert at manipulating language and communication for their benefit.
Things are much easier for them now since Obama legalized domestic propaganda right before he left office.
This act paved the way for “accountability journalism,” also known as lying.
Did he now? I was unaware! Was that a law that was passed or some sort of new regulation?
Look up Obama and the Smith-Mundt Act. One of his last actions in office was to legalize domestic propaganda.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/planting-stories-in-the-press-lifting-of-us-propaganda-ban-gives-new-meaning-to-old-song/237493/
Anyone who dismisses conspiracy theories is hopefully naive. Of course there are conspiracies.
ZeroHedge even ballyhooing how fake and impossible it is
Is Zerohedge mainstream? Why would you expect otherwise from them?
Anyone who believes Epstein committed suicide would probably believe John F Kennedy blew his own brains out.
You have all the answers? Awesome! Was the first alleged suicide also a bona fide suicide? Or was that all faked?
Well it does seem a bit outrageous no? There are so many strange things surrounding it all I don’t blame anyone for conjecture.
It’s both outrageous and suspicious. But it seems more likely that someone helped him commit suicide. Assisted suicide.
For it to be murder (against his will), one would have to explain what that first attempt was all about. It never happened? It was a botched murder attempt? He wanted to die the first time but not the second?
Correct me if I’m wrong. But the first attempt was never fully explained to the public. Many questions were left unanswered
I suspect this Epstein death story will very quickly fade away; and we’ll never have some very pertinent questions answered. The MSM, the yapping lapdogs of the deep state, will never speak of this again.
No wander – Finc
===========
I guess I shouldn’t say hahaha since English isn’t Finc’s first language.
But the first attempt was never fully explained to the public. Many questions were left unanswered – hmuller
===========
What needs explanation? There were marks on his neck. He tried to strangle himself. Duh!
Rumor has it that Epstein told people that in the first incident he was attacked by someone and called a pedo, a not unlikely occurrence.
“Someone” ? Couldn’t the jail authorities narrow that down a little more?
My favorite part is that the cameras also happened to malfunction.
That could be the case. Unfortunately we have to gossip because there isn’t anything else to go on. Maybe it was assisted suicide?
Yes that first alleged suicide is my “reasonable doubt” that the second was murder.
It’s hard to choke oneself to death with one’s bare hands. Because once you are unconscious the chocking stops and one will probably recover. See the problem?
I’m still waiting for them to tell us about the Las Vegas shooter. If he had been a White Nationalist they would have told us, right? So that can be ruled out. They never denied ISIS taking responsibility either. There were also rumors that his Filipino girlfriend had Federal connections. His choice of target was very interesting – Red State Americans.
The whole thing wasn’t gracefully dropped down the memory hold but rather thrown like a fast ball.
And wasn’t Saudi ruling Prince Mohammed bin Salman in Las Vegas at the time? Odd coincidence?
Wait a minute. I thought the girlfriend was cleared by the FBI before the spoke with her.
A lot of luggage to get up into a hotel room with nobody noticing.
I thought hotel workers gossiped about the guests’ doings, especially someone showing up with a conspicuous amount of stuff.
And of course one of the more widely circulated rumors about that case is that it does tie back to ISIS and thus the very reason that no additional information has really been released about the incident. We wouldn’t want to generate any more anti-Muslim sentiment in this already hopelessly racist society now would we? Islam is definitely a religion of peace and all.
He had two suicides?
Yes if we believe the official narrative, there was a failed suicide attempt, followed by a successful one. The first one casts doubt on the second one being murder.
You believe the first time he tried to choke himself to death?
Nope! I’m saying that IF we believe it was a suicide attempt, THEN it creates doubt that the second attempt was murder.
My turn. If the first attempt was a murder attempt and not a suicide attempt, then why would Epstein remain silent about it? He talked with prison officials, psychiatrists, his legal team, etc. Why not mention, “OMG! Someone tried to kill me!”? Are you suggesting everyone is in on this? His lawyer? The chief psychologist? Everyone?
Excsot,
I’m just trying to find the answers in a world where I’m not so sure the media always tells us the truth. Here is what Fox news is saying in a story published today
Link: https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epstein-timeline-death
“JULY 23 — FIRST POSSIBLE SUICIDE ATTEMPT
Epstein is found nearly unconscious in his jail cell with injuries to his neck, law enforcement sources told the New York Post at the time. It was unclear whether the injuries were self-inflicted, either as the result of a legitimate suicide attempt or a cry for help, or if Epstein had been assaulted by another inmate. Though officials reportedly believed the incident to be a suicide attempt, they could not rule out a potential attack.
Epstein is not transferred to a hospital and remains at the correctional center, Politico reported at the time.”
Somebody explain to me why it’s unclear if the injuries are self inflicted or the result of an inmate assault. Did they let the inmates wander unsupervised and unobserved in and out of Epstein’s cell, so that anybody could attack Epstein at any time? No guards around to see anything. This makes no sense to me.
Admittedly, all I know about prison I learned by watching “Orange is the New Black”. And perhaps a women’s minimum security facility is very different. Mostly, I watched it in hopes of a soapy shower fight scene. But I digress.
Continuing on. Maybe the Fox story is implying that Epstein’s cellmate, the muscle bound bad cop Tartaglione tried to choke him to death. My question – why couldn’t the jail authorities determine whether or not that was the case?
Tartaglione’s lawyer of course paints him as the hero who saved Epstein from committing suicide. Yeah well, consider the source.
I have no idea what Epstein said to his lawyers or the prison psychiatrist or the prison staff or anyone else. If you know, please share.
>>> I have no idea what Epstein said to his lawyers or the prison psychiatrist or the prison staff or anyone else. If you know, please share.
No one knows! And that’s what’s fueling conspiracy theories. What was Epstein’s explanation for what happened? Seriously, can we stop the Trump bashing and whites… bad! long enough to get some straightforward answers to some very basic questions? We promise you can return to your Russian conspiracy impeach Trump white supremacist viral epidemic plague whatever just as soon as you do your damn jobs and give us some answers. Damn the media sucks.
Watch and see what happens to Epstein’s accomplices, like Sarah Kellen and Ghislaine Maxwell, amongst others. They all must be in real fear for their lives at this point.
What kind of mysterious fate awaits them? hmmm
On a certain level you kinda want them to be for what they allegedly did right? But will they truly pay a price for what they did? Not likely at the hands of those they abused but I could be very wrong. More likely as you sort of imply here, they will be disappeared by those who just want to cover up what they have done.
If I transfer $1,000,000 to your account will you bring me a few pieces of nylon?
Money … no way…How about,
A stranger some how ends up in Epstein’s block.
Walks over to guard and says to the guard, “Hey there, look at my phone, I see you have a few children.”
Shows him live video of his kids sleeping.
“You want to see them again? Leave me with Jeff alone for 15.”
“Thanks”
Very plausible, taking loved ones hostages is a time-honored tradition of the Black Project Hillary is heading.
Prison officials were not unaware that the world was watching and that they’d better get this one right. Yet – everyone went out for a beer at the same time? Oh yeah – and we discovered that some janitor left the lens cover on the observation camera that night.
The Deep State’s narrative management strategy: Day 1: “Apparent suicide.” (no details) Day 2: “Suicide” (no explanation) Day 3: “Any other narrative is a conspiracy theory.”
As Sherlock Holmes observed, “Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.” Former inmates who know that cell better than any journalist have made it clear that Epstein could not possibly have committed suicide in there.
With that possibility eliminated, the only explanation that does not insult our intelligence is assassination. Epstein was in a position to demolish the lives of a significant number of the world’s most powerful men. Any one of them is in a position to bring immense money and political clout to bear upon this problem and has agents whose job is to manage such things.
The official narrative is as half-assed and insulting as the 911 story. Let them begin by explaining in complete detail, the means by which Epstein managed to kill himself. If it was poison, we may never know whether he bribed people to bring it in or if it was Mossad or some other agent, but at least the story won’t blow up our bullshit detectors.
The official narrative is as half-assed and insulting as the 911 story
You are mistaken, my friend. It is hundreds of times more half-assed and insulting.
Something really went wrong.
“Something really went wrong.”
Kameraden Finc!
Sooo…Russia’s new wonder weapons are battle ready? Putin seems to be rattling sabers just as did Messrs. Hitler and Co. regarding new weapons that would turn the tide of history.
Consider the unfortunate test results of the “petrel”, or as NATO calls it “Skyfall”, or as we have described it “flying Chernobyl”. Atomic rocket engines…a failure of the new Post-Soviet-Man, perhaps?
Or, as Russians are fond of believing, wreckers and sabotage?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49319160
At the beginning of the Epstein’s “suicide” panic in mass-Media, the pro-Clinton media let slip that 7 years ago, Epstein was blacklisted in all Trump casinos and stopped being allowed to go there after he attacked an underage girl in one of the casinos.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/10/trump-retweets-epstein-conspiracy-theories-1456305
And they indirectly confirmed the reports of anti-Clinton bloggers that the first case of Epstein, as a result of which the latter became a registered pedophile, having served 13 months in prison, was initiated by Trump precisely after this incident, and Trump made quite significant efforts and contributed no less significant funds.
And I will add to this the artistic truth, based on stylistic analysis and very, very indirect signs that this youngster, who was attacked by Epstein, was a relative of Trump and this incident occurred after Trump refused to participate in the outrages ala Eyes Wide Shut
Norway mosque attack suspect ‘inspired by Christchurch and El Paso shootings’
Online posts by Philip Manshaus praising other white extremist attacks emerge
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/11/norway-mosque-attack-suspect-may-have-been-inspired-by-christchurch-and-el-paso-shootings
“The suspected gunman in an attack on a mosque in Norway on Saturday was inspired by recent white extremist attacks in New Zealand and the US, online posts suggest.
“Police in Norway have so far only said the attack in Baerum, a town 20km from Oslo, the capital, will be investigated as a possible act of terrorism.
“In messages posted on the day of the attack, Philip Manshaus, a 21-year-old man who has been named by local media as the main suspect, described himself as ‘chosen’ by ‘Saint [Brenton] Tarrant’, the gunman who killed 51 people at mosques in New Zealand in March.
“‘My time is up, I was chosen by Saint Tarrant after all … We can’t let this continue, you gotta bump the race war threat in real life … it’s been fun,’ one post reads.
“In a meme also posted by Manshaus, three rightwing extremists suspected of being responsible for other attacks this year are depicted and praised as heroes of the white nationalist movement.
“Tarrant is described as having ‘addressed the Muslim problem’ while Patrick Crusius, who has been charged with the attack in El Paso, Texas, in which 22 people died, is praised for ‘fighting to reclaim his country’.
“A third attacker suspected of killing a woman during a Passover celebration at a synagogue in California in April is also praised, alongside antisemitic abuse.
“The evidence of posts supporting the actions of the three suspects will fuel fears that a ‘cascade’ of rightwing extremist attacks is gathering supporters around the world.”
—
There are other currents taking place in the ongoing deterioration, not just the Airborne Toxic Event that is (was) Jeffrey Epstein. It’s increasingly clear that the propaganda of the deed has taken hold on the far right, and keeps racking up scores. We can thank our lucky stars that this particular übermensch only managed to injure one person, a fearsome 75-year-old man at worship, but killed no one. But he sure cited all the obvious precedents for his act of terror.
When will you acknowledge all the crimes, rapes, and murders perpetrated by the recent Mid-Eastern and African refugees flooding into Scandinavia?
I’m certainly not excusing any crimes. But you make it sound like all this happened out of the blue and unprovoked. Those parasitic people are destroying European culture and the standard of living, without so much as a “thank you for all the welfare”. No, they show their gratitude by harassing women, raping little boys,vandalizing cars, etc
Crime morphs seamlessly into War, does it not? Be it in Mexico or now in Europe. Or soon perhaps into the United States. Maybe it’s time to review your Theory of Just War? Unless you are a pacifist and don’t have one.
Surely the Tree is thirsty for the Blood of Tyrants and Patriots, don’t you think? The Left has never taken an oath of Pacifism, has it? You’d never know that from Elrond’s superior attitude of course.
I have a friend living in Norway. He has to attend classes with immigrants.
He says the immigrants hate the Norwegians, and the Norwegians hate them right back.
He also says Oslo has a housing shortage.
So why keep importing more and more people?
Cheap labor to care for aging native population? Because their socialism isn’t really solvent? And they can’t afford to pay fair market value for “shit jobs”?
>>> Cheap labor to care for aging native population? Because their socialism isn’t really solvent? And they can’t afford to pay fair market value for “shit jobs”?
Probably not. Actually, Norway compares very FAVORABLY to the USA, as I think you’ll agree. JDH
“When it comes to quality of life, there are few countries that can supersede America in terms of luxury, comfort and overall well-being. Not even Canada or Britain exceeds the United States in quality of life. However, Norway, an oil-rich country situated in the Scandinavian Peninsula, undeniably outstrips the American standard of living.
The United States has a lower per capita GDP than Norway with a GDP of 51,749 compared to 99,558, respectively, and is also home to one of the most pressing income distribution gaps in any industrialized nation, surpassed in income inequality by only Russia and Mexico.
Due to America’s cavernous income inequality, the poorest 38% of Norwegians are better off than the poorest 38% of Americans despite an overall lower average per capita GDP. According to Syracuse University professor Timothy Smeeding, the United States relies heavily on the markets to an extent that social safety nets are neglected, unlike Norway, which focuses more resources on providing aid to the poor.
This is not to say that America completely disregards its poor. To clarify, the United States has initiated its portion of socially-oriented acts, such as its attempt to reform the welfare system during the past two decades.
However, while the number of individuals on welfare was reduced from 5 million to slightly over 2 million, the welfare poor were downgraded into the working poor. Although welfare reform was rooted in good intentions, the lack of government safety nets defeated the purpose of the entire act.
Although the discovery of oil on the land in 1969 had transformed Norway, more than just an abundance of the valued natural resource buttresses Norway’s economy. Norway’s success has been attributed to what many call the “Norwegian Model”– a model of running a welfare state in which resources are carefully monitored, preserved and kept up-to-date.
While the United States ranks among one of the wealthiest nations in the world, it has stayed remiss in establishing social safety nets, particularly for the less economically-advantaged subsection of the population. Due to the lack of social safety nets, America hosts one of the largest global income inequality gaps, and is ultimately surpassed by the tiny welfare state of Norway in terms of quality of life.”
“It’s money that matters in the USA!”
>>> Due to the lack of social safety nets, America hosts one of the largest global income inequality gaps,
You’re conflating two very different concepts. America has myriad social safety nets, from Social Security and Medicare to Medicaid, SNAP and HUD. Not to mention a progressive tax.
So to claim that “the lack of social safety nets” leads to “income inequality” just doesn’t compute. Frankly, it wouldn’t even make sense if we didn’t have social safety nets.
Income equality arises from the fact that labor markets don’t value all jobs as being equal in worth. It’s not something that requires “solving”—anymore than gaps in intelligence, beauty, or athleticism requires solving. Embrace the diversity. That includes diverse incomes.
As for Norway’s success, I’d attribute it less to socialism, and more to Norway’s racial and cultural homogeneity. It is surely easier to govern when there’s a shared culture, and race issues don’t consume all available bandwidth.
They want to replace White People. Period. Making everything into Economics is simply idiotic. And wrong since the immigrants are net takers not producers.
LOL I see you are still struggling mightily with your inner White Nationalist. You even view those you have disdain for as ubermensch! With everything going on in the world and this is what you post? Stop it already! It is time to embrace that which you love and obsess over. Stop fighting it.
I wish they could gather up all those refugees in Scandinavia and send them to live in Elrond’s hometown. Poetic justice.
“It was them! The refugees made me do it! The migrants made me do it! The n-words made me do it! The Jews made me do it!”
Motive for the crime, baby.
So you aren’t saying we can’t bring them to your house I notice….
Me: *does a sarcasm*
SoftStarLight: *whoosh*
Wow I just never thought you would use the language of the wicked that’s all.
Good concept or meme. A very useful approach.
Last I checked, the copycat effect is not limited to the “far right”.
Meanwhile, let’s look at some other “patterned” crimes that happened in the same time frame…
Car Bomb Kills 3 U.N. Staff Members Outside a Benghazi Mall
Student found stabbed to death in West Bank terror attack; manhunt launched
Germany: Iraqi migrant arrested for attempted rape of a 13-year-old girl at swimming pool
To paraphrase Elrond, it’s increasingly clear that the propaganda of previous deeds by Muslims and migrants keeps racking up scores as well.
Exscotticus, even though you linked to the Wikipedia article, you seem unclear on the concept of ‘copycat’.
Regarding the current string of right-wing terror attacks, there’s a clear and well-documented trail of evidence whereby each of these pieces of shit posts online, citing their predecessors by name, praising their actions, and vowing to emulate them, which they then proceed to do.
– The article I posted above lists the predecessors that the alleged Norway mosque shooter wanted to emulate.
– 27 minutes before the El Paso terror attack, the alleged shooter posted a message on 8chan expressing support for and inspiration by the Christchurch mosque massacre.
– When the Poway/San Diego synagogue terror attack occurred (remember that one? Amazing how they all blur together), once again the shooter preceded the attack with an online posting which specifically cited both the infamous Christchurch massacre and a previous shooting at a synagogue in Pittsburgh.
Need I go on? This is the very definition of ‘copycat crime’ and the pattern is happening now, in real time. Do you have the honesty to admit that? Or have you already stopped reading this post, because you lack the guts to face how wrong you are?
Each of the crimes you linked to is quite heinous. But without even reading past the headlines, I will bet you real money there is no such link between them. Guilt by association (the alleged perpetrators all being Muslim) is not evidence. Demonstrate that each one modelled their behaviour on the one previous, as the right-wing terrorists have done, or slink away.
Yes, you are not here to debate and review evidence. You are here to be RIGHT.
I 2nd that.
Bravo. On a roll!
High fives :-)!!!!
Elrond, what is your point? That right wing white people are violent and dangerous?
If I gathered last week’s 100 most egregious crimes by people of color against white people, would it change you view of the world.
Not a bit, I’m sure.
So why do you bombard us with these news clips? Are we supposed to feel guilty about crimes by someone who happens to be white? Or are you signalling your moral superiority as a white person, wracked with guilt and shame?
You are beginning to resemble a Green Alba copycat. Proving the correctness of a worldview and life philosophy via a few news clips.
Guess what. There are news clips to support every philosophy and prove every point.
Oh come on, Green makes salient points on a fairly regular basis, while Elrond is our in-house NPC. There is no comparison.
The following story took place in Germany in late July when an Eritrean guest of the German people shoved an 8 year old boy to his death in front of a train.
And you know what, Elrond? I don’t give a pig’s anus whether the man acted in a “copycat manner” or was the greatest example of “original Muslim thinking”.
“A child has died after a man pushed him and his mother in front on an incoming high-speed train at Frankfurt’s main station, police said.
Witnesses reportedly saw a man dressed in dark clothes shove the pair onto the tracks as an InterCity Express train pulled into the station in the German city on Monday morning.
The mother, 40, was able to pull herself away from the train but her eight-year-old son was hit and suffered fatal injuries, police spokeswoman Isabell Neumann said.
The 40-year-old suspect, who is Eritrean, then apparently tried unsuccessfully to push another person onto the track.
He fled the scene with passers-by in pursuit and was arrested near the station.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-child-pushed-train-killed-dies-platform-frankfurt-station-a9025271.html
Nightowl, you are correct and I expect to get a terrible Scotish flogging later for my hasty and ill-considered comparison. But she has in the past battered me with news clippings (as if that’s ever going to change my mind, LOL).
No, you come on Night Towel. She is Grundy, a School Marm. But yes, it seems more natural because it is a feminine role. Elrond is a male school marm. How horrible is that?
They both cherry pick stats and info to sustain the same grotesque narrative. These two could finish each other’s sentences. It’s a matter of style as I said above. He grates more….
Tell it to someone who cares, Oberfeldwebel.
Whooo, Elrond, dude, you are WIDE AWOKE!!!
>>> But without even reading past the headlines, I will bet you real money there is no such link between them.
I didn’t claim these three crimes are linked to each other. I didn’t claim that they’re “copycat crimes”. I claimed—and it’s right there in black and white—that these are other examples of “patterned” crimes. This is broader category that subsumes copycat crimes.
But your claim that Islamic terrorst attacks don’t qualify as copycat crimes seems to be at odds with the term’s usage. For example…
Isis celebration over the London attack is a dance of defeat
It is possible Khalid Masood, the 52-year-old who killed four in London last week, was responding directly to Adnani’s call, perhaps relayed through social media. It is equally likely he was inspired by the example of earlier attacks. The “copycat effect” in terrorism is powerful.
You see, Elrond, when Muslims reads about other Muslims who are praised as heroes of Islam for blowing shit up, it encourages more of the same. Or did you think the common Islamoterrorist cry of “Alluhu Akbar!” was just some strange coincidence?
I agree, ExScot. But since the MSM does not label Muslim crimes as “copy cat”, Elrond will claim they are not until hell freezes over. Sure, hundreds of Muslims all got the idea independently to strap on explosives and become suicide bombers – no copy catting there.
Just as by definition there can never be a hate crime by people of color against whites. The MSM will never label it that way, hence the Elronds of the world will deny the existence of such crimes. They are no more possible than ‘dry water’..
With the ability to destroy the elite here and abroad (even Wokesters have yet to add a P for Pedophile to their LGBTQ alphabet soup), Jeffrey Epstein was the most dangerous man on earth. Now he’s dead under highly unusual circumstances. Draw your own conclusions.
My high octane speculation is that it was “arranged” for the prison to be “incompetent”. This is all just too convenient.
So no one really had to murder him and make it look like a suicide. Just arrange to give him the means to actually do it himself. The prison will take the heat, but the pre-arranged agreement was to insure no one at the prison gets reprimanded too heavily. More of a “tsk tsk, that was really bad guys. Shame on you!” Then maybe firing one or two people and having the prison operate with “great extra regulatory oversight” until this all blows over.
Pass him something that puts him into a deep sleep. Lean on the Prison Doctor to declare him dead. Exchange bodies at the morgue or en route. Get Jeff on the plane. Have his slippers and robe ready as well as nubiles. Jeff may not be able to wait until landing in Tel Aviv. It’s been a week or two after all.
It’s bad for us but good for them. Keeps up morale. Our Credit is their Debit. The Goyim duped again!
Busy schedule of cosmetic surgeries for Epstein in the coming months. The ‘corpse’ we saw on the gurney was in all likelihood a meticulously reproduced dummy. But they forgot the pallor that a dead body would presumably have.
Update:
Latest photos show the pallor of death. FIF?
Soooooo….someone comes up to you on your way home, a total stranger. Sez, “how’s the family Joe”. “Who the hell are you?” “Joe, I need your help.” “Get outta my face dude”. “Joe, Joe, you can help me or maybe something happens to a family member. Say an accident in the subway.”
Guess where Joe works? Any rewards are cash only. Joe is owned. But, no one cares about the Jew pedophile. No one really cares about the girls. Leonard Cohen got it right with EVERYBODY KNOWS. Why give a damn?
The list of potential owners is vast.
What would you do?
Americans accept the corruption. As long as they get their share of the loot they are ok with whatever it takes to get it to them. If you think I am wrong, ask yourself the question, “Where is the outrage?” There you go, there is the proof – no outrage, only acceptance. It is the NIMBY principle, Not In My Backyard, which includes the mantra of “I only care about myself, everybody else can go to hell”. The programming is now complete, all we have to do is be patient and wait.
Or people still have to make ends meet and so their focus is on that rather than people they know are always committing crimes and getting away with murder. Sometimes you have to fight battles worth fighting for. Many have already been lost.
Outrage is way overused today. We are supposed to be outraged about any event depending on personal taste. I figure late term abortion ought to be an outrage item and popular. Nope. I think our society is too numb to really get too worked up.
Best to remember the “golden rule”. It is why Soros has so much clout.
Care and Concern are limited. Scare Resources. We only have so much. If you are driven to care about Minorities and Ilegals, you will have none left for your own People.
The Ruling Class knows this. Ordinary People don’t. They understand human nature. We don’t. And yeah, add to this the stress of making a living in a very competitive Capitalist society, and the numbness is explained. Endless crime, both actual and entertainment, complete the picture.
Yeah, the Ruling Class has been doing this for a very long time and they are well aware of human instincts and behavior. These are the same instincts and behaviors that ordinary people are taught to ignore completely, or even worse, that such instincts and behaviors are evil and must be deprogrammed.
I say, I say…..I’m plumb outraged that ‘outrage’ is way overused today!
“And you don’t believe we’re on the eve of destruction.”
“Starting all over again is gonna be rough…
We lost what we had, that’s what hurt us so bad
It set us back a thousand years”
And a symphony of destruction it will be….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfpgpf6QVnI
I’m only surprised that anyone’s surprised at how this turned out. Epstein’s death was assured the moment he was arrested. A story of malfeasance and incompetence will be trotted out and people of a suitably low rank will be scapegoated, fired/retired, and bought off and/or murdered later to remain quiet, but no one should doubt for a second what went on here. An agent of the deep state fell into the cross hairs of opposing deep state interests, who then did what deep state interests always do under such circumstances: eliminate the problem permanently.
Although I could easily be persuaded by the Mossad / plane to Israel arguments above, as well. But I think it’s more likely he’s dead, his usefulness now expired with all this publicity. One thing’s for sure, this was no routine suicide.
Excellent source of Epstein documents here, including downloadable flight logs and other stuff. This site is a treasure trove of background information in general on many topics:
https://www.coreysdigs.com/the-file-drawer/
Thank you for sharing the link Ol’ Scratch. You know, I can’t tell you how many people said something like, “He’ll be dead in no time” when Epstein went behind bars to start off with.
Whoever had August 10 in the betting pool must have cleaned up.
No doubt, right!!! I wish just once, just once, that I would have the winning numbers, or date, in this particular case :-).
Although I could easily be persuaded by the Mossad / plane to Israel arguments
Nobody doubted your persuasiveness in that department.
Nor your pro-Zionist denials, I’m sure.
Isn’t Epstein Barr a disease of some kind?
Their reach is far and wide.
I find the timing odd. Who exactly orchestrated his arrest and why?
That seems to be question of questions here. Rest assured this was no routine sting operation.
“and/or murdered later to remain quiet”
Nick O Demus,
…I am waiting for the other shoe to drop….
Yes. There will be more bodies, although I doubt we’ll hear about most of them.
Epstein possibly was a triple agent, working for the USA, Israel and Saudi Arabia (he held a Saudi passport)
He also put in humint intel work for France, Switzerland and the UK
Such people are useful, and valuable
The man got around
Im wondering where his $550 million came from tho, considering nobody ever saw him work at any job.
Brh
They are beta testing new ideas every day. Once they hit on something mildly acceptable the story will disappear outside of talk of online “conspiracy theorists.”
8/10/2019 “…the day the music died.” – Don McClean
But wait! The levee isn’t dry yet!
I always thought Seth was killed not for what he had already leaked, but because after the wikileaks came out, and Seth was pinpointed as the likely source, someone knew exactly what he could still put out there.
The “authorities” had so much trouble calling this a homicide.
When there has been no robbery, as in nothing was taken, there is never a justification for calling it such.
Mr. Barr was shocked, shocked I tell you, upon learning of Epstein’s demise.
Why was he so shocked?
Noted psychic Ann Coulter had already issued an alert:
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1154256310457786368
You remember Ann, she’s the one they wouldn’t allow to speak at UC Berkeley, because of “safety”. But who was the head of that university system, and what was her job before that?
Anyway, they couldn’t guarantee that a college professor might take umbrage and start hitting attendees with a bicycle lock, so Annie was cancelled.
JN?
Several people responding to the tweet actually called it exactly as it happened too. A surveillance malfunction/mishap would occur, etc.,
Yes that pattern being that the seemingly impossible occurs and there is, naturally, no way for anyone to verify the ridiculous story Fake News puts out.
People are saying that Epstein’s death makes no difference to the prosecution of these crimes.
Even with tapes, the case needs the cooperation of the young women involved.
I believe there is a thing called “best evidence”, but I’m no lawyer.
This crime is especially heinous because the victims were not your mere “underage” victims, but very young children, really.
If you have an old tape with a thirteen year old in it, and that person is in her twenties now, you really need her testimony that yes, that’s her.
After that disingenuous, to say the least, statement from the US Attorney, in which he neglected to even say he was sorry they didn’t protect the subject so he could be brought to justice, or reassure the women that even though the entirety of the system had deliberately allowed this to occur, he was somehow going to keep them safe, I don’t see how this is going anywhere.
Epstein’s “suicide” protects the big names associated with this crime, and they are still very much out there, walking around.
They live. We sleep.
That’s ridiculous. Very young children? These were adolescents, past menarche, with secondary sexual characteristics fully developed. Physically, they were sexually mature. Technically, children are persons who haven’t sprouted body hair or grown breasts. Since these were lower class girls, as little as 50 to 60 years ago a lot of them would have already been married and mothers by the age these girls got involved with Epstein. My daughter went to high school with a married woman who was pregnant with her third child at eighteen. One of my best friends was married in our senior year. Don’t believe for a second that they didn’t see benefits accruing to them from cooperation. I’m not hearing any of them claiming forcible rape.
Pederasty, chasing teens for sex.
Where were their parents and what did they know?
I believe pederasty refers to a relationship between an adult male and an adolescent boy, which was considered natural and encouraged in ancient Greece, by the way—a sort of mentor relationship with benefits. I’m not sure what it’s called in the case of an adult male and an adolescent girl. I don’t believe there is a name for it, because it was not considered remarkable until quite recently. Women in their teens are at their most fertile. We evolved that way, so men are hard-wired to prefer them young. By the time most women these days in Western Civilization are thinking of starting a family, their fertility has dropped by a marked amount.
u r rite
“Women in their teens are at their most fertile. We evolved that way, so men are hard-wired to prefer them young. By the time most women these days”
Women reach maximum fertility, on average, around 21:
https://institutomarques.com/en/news/news-2017/the-5-stages-of-womens-fertile-life/
The most fertile period is 21-28, with fertility starting to decline around 30/32.
And childbirth itself isn’t ideal for teenagers, from a physiological point of view, just because they’re capable of becoming pregnant.
So we’ll have to find another reason than evolutionary advantage for men fancying 15-year-old girls.
Green Alba, there wasn’t even an abstract. That’s not a scientific study, and I know the difference. That link led to an institution geared to assist women with reproductive issues. I’d want to see the hard data rather than some comforting blah, blah, blah geared to sooth anxious and not very knowledgeable women.
draupnir
I don’t imagine Wikipedia has any vested interest, and they say female fertility peaks in the early and mid-20s. Most of the information available online generally concentrates on the other end of the spectrum, for obvious reasons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_and_female_fertility
But it’s not worth getting into a deep debate about.
It was an experienced district nurse (and neighbour/friend) who told me, when I was having my first at age 28 (and had just been in a waiting room at the hospital with an 18-year-old!) that teenagers have more problems giving birth because their bodies aren’t physiologically ready to the extent they would be in their 20s.
This UN info. confirms that ‘Complications from pregnancy and childbirth are the leading cause of death among adolescent girls.
https://www.unfpa.org/adolescent-pregnancy
Further:
Adolescent pregnancy is generally not the result of a deliberate choice – these girls often have little say over decisions affecting their lives. Rather, early pregnancy is a consequence of little or no access to school, information or health care.
Just because people used to do things a particular way when girls had little real choice doesn’t mean it was the best way to do things, even from the point of view of their bodies.
draupnir, you wrote:
” I’m not sure what it’s called in the case of an adult male and an adolescent girl. I don’t believe there is a name for it,”
Where I live they call it “Statutory Rape”.
By the way, the prophet Mohammed married his wife Aisha when she was 6, but waited until she was 9 to consummate the marriage. (What a Prince!). Criticize that behavior in some places and you’ll provoke a riot.
SSl –I don’t know why you would think these girls had any sort of stable home life.
SSL
You have to wonder where the fathers of some of these girls were, and why weren’t they looking out for their daughters?
I can imagine if anybody tried to bull any Epstien bullh#t with my own sisters back in the day they would’ve been filled full of holes, my father and uncles being the protective sort.
Brh
Yes, I realize that there are many broken homes and situations and its just sad. Their are so many parents not really engaged in their kids lives for all sorts of reasons, not always directly intentional either. But the effects are just the same. And I do understand your sentiments Brh. I would never have gotten away with being away from home long enough to get into real trouble. My parents were pretty strict in that way and my dad was very protective. Of course you know how it goes. At times I really hated it and was so embarassed and this and that. But now I look back and am very thankful, appreciative and grateful. The world can be a very cruel and mean place.
Where, oh where, are the women of Hollywood?
I seem to remember, Candice Bergin, speaking in serious tones about believing “these women”, to some asshole from the MSM, regarding the Kavanaugh allegations.
Well two of those women were proven certifiably looney liars right off the bat, and the “two front doors” one had many, many holes in that tale.
Where is Candice’s outrage that these women will not get justice?
Where is the #MeToo brigade?
Bunch of Front Holes. Trump promised to sue his tormentors but of course never did. It would have looked very bad indeed. He knew he’s never win in the Court of Public Opinion, whatever the facts of the case.
The Women of Sodom live again.
#MeToo is not real. That was never about anything but political and social blackmail. When accusations are not made up completely out of thin air of course. And some accusations even when proven real don’t matter if you are one of those women that don’t really matter (i.e. don’t think right) or if the man is indispensable to the Elite.
Yes, as with the handsome Bill Clinton, the “Big Dog”. Or the oh so urbane pedophile, Roman Polanski. Or the murderous Ted Kennedy. What about Mary Jo, “Ladies”?
#metoo
Was really about getting orange man bad and if it took down some of the favorite sons it was worth it.
As you can see when it failed to get O.M.B it fizzled out.
To be fair, it started with Rose McGowan and Weinstein. The “movement” was used out of convenience to attack Trump as well, but RM always struck me as the honest sort.
The whole thing became somewhat of a joke, ofc, but it wasn’t at the start. And Weinstein was exposed, which certainly woke up a lot of the low-IQ set.
bergEn
I understand. For me its like a cabinet door that is just randomly left ajar.
“For What It’s Worth”
There’s something happening here
But what it is ain’t exactly clear
There’s a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it’s time we stop
Children, what’s that sound?
Everybody look – what’s going down?
There’s battle lines being drawn
Nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong
Young people speaking’ their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
It’s time we stop
Hey, what’s that sound?
Everybody look – what’s going down?
What a field day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly saying, “hooray for our side”
It’s time we stop
Hey, what’s that sound?
Everybody look – what’s going down?
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid
Step out of line, the men come and take you away
Stills – 1967
Arkancided during the Sabbath ?
Who knows if he is really dead. Remember Enron founder Ken Lay. You can pay off anybody.
I doubt that people, like me, ordinary everyday schmucks, will EVER know the truth about what happened here …
Jefferey Epstein was the most important Federal material witness in my living memory. Any “explanation” at this point will sound like bullshit to me.
https://soundcloud.com/daniel-sullivan-505714723/little-saigon-report-144-epstein-is-dead
I think most of us feel like you do Dr. Freckles. I think I might be ready for a prescription if you have happy pills because I am tired of knowing that there are people who can do whatever they want and I am freakin afraid just to post my opinions online.
“…eliminate the problem permanently.“ —Ol Scratch
How did that work out for the Romans? Kill him and the problem goes away? People will forget?
That is the mistake of materialists who believe in violence … who think killing the body is a solution that makes the “problem” go away.
Comparing Jeffrey Epstein to Jesus Christ is a bit of a stretch. LOL
Killing a noble idea is different than killing a star witness; the former may be difficult; the latter often works. At least, it has for the mob.
“That is the mistake of materialists who believe in violence … who think killing the body is a solution that makes the “problem” go away.”
PK,
…Yeah….tell that to Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby…any serious problem revolving around Kennedy’s death soon went away…unless you think idle patter represents a problem… Life without parole is a problem…death penalty is a problem.
Continued talk of a conspiracy 60+ years after the fact is no problem….
“Having the body” is important in legal cases, both in terms of being a witness or in terms of being the body (dead). Forget the Latin. No doubt you will inform me.
Cospiracy theory or theorist, an old CIA term used to discredit and marginalize bona fide critics of the Warren Commission, sure has gone mainstream with its prolific use today. Kind of like the common usage of the Deep State.
One of the first known American conspiracy theorists was Honest Abe Lincoln, who didn’t buy Zachary Taylor’s account of an unprovoked attacked by Mexicans in Brownsville during his excursion into Mexico. President james Polk used this false flag as an excus to go to war with Mexico in 1848. Mexico’s crime: banning slavery in 1821. Well it got us California and all that gold in 1849. Can you America without Surfin USA?
One last sidenote: The man, who gave Jeffry Epsein his first job as a physics and math teacher at Dalton School, a private prep in New York City, was none other than Donald Barr, father of USAG William Barr. BTW, Jeffry did not have a college degree or teaching credentials.
Oh what a tangled web….
Good stuff!
I found it a little shocking that former senator George Mitchell has been named by the plaintiff as one of the sexual abusing buddies of Epstein. He appears to be the epitome of the squeaky clean guy.
Hey, he likes them young, what can you say?
“He appears to be the epitome of the squeaky clean guy.”
Most of them do, until they don’t viz Mark Sanford.
Our host seems certain that all those involved in the Mueller-Clinton conspiracy will face justice, but it seems to me equally likely, especially in the wake of Epstein’s convenient death, that one way or another there will be no prosecution.
That’s what it said to me too – loud and clear.
It will be either a prosecution of the Clinton with her Flying Monkeys or a nuclear war, there is simply no other alternative.
With this latest information, that AG Barr and father are closely affiliated with the tribe / CIA, I find it increasingly UNLIKELY that anyone in the Clinton’s orbit will face anything at all like justice, deserved or not..
It is unusual that AG Barr and pere are both CIA and quasi-tribe. That J. Epstein, also of the tribe, with no college diploma, worked for Don Barr at the prestigious Dalton school as a mathematics instructor. That Barr came out of nowhere to be AG AGAIN, after publically auditioning for the role. That AG Barr is head of the DOJ and the BOP while all this goes down and makes a point of articulating how “pissed-off” he is.
I know “they” say, in a scam, “you cannot layer on the BS too thickly,” but this may be too cute by half, but I may be wrong.
Private schools are not required to have degreed teachers, are they?
maybe JE opffered special ed classes for the employees.
Apparently Epstein was a talented musician and had a genius level IQ. Malth, you don’t amass a $550 million fortune by being stupid. It looks like he let his sexual proclivities get the best of him.
Brh
BRH, That seems absolutely correct. No doubt, he was brilliant in mathematics and finance.
According to EO Young, the national president of the Council of Prison Locals C-33, said that Epstein’s case highlighted a grim reality for the MCC’s prison guards.
“We can’t ever stop anyone who is persistent on killing themselves,” Young said. “The only thing the bureau can do is delay that.”
That grim reality is a byproduct of the fact that the Trump Administration had implemented a hiring freeze for the federal bureau of prisons.
“All this was caused by the administration,” Young said.
So it’s Trump’s fault that the prison guards either let Epstein kill himself or let someone kill Epstein. Got it. Trump’s fault, just like the hurricanes and mass shootings.
New York Rumors
What happens in connection with Epstein’s “suicide” simply doesn’t pass through any gates. For my 30 years in the USA I have not seen an information campaign of such force.
Even if Epstein’s suicide is recognized as murder, and not just murder, but murder according to the hashtag “#ClintonBodyCount” that the US president has re-twitted, this still cannot explain the intensity of the information that in one way or another related to Epstein’s “suicide”.
Half of the article in the Yahoo News feed is devoted to this topic, with the second half discussing topics such as missile technology tests by North Korea, three mass shootings of Americans and the related attempt to cancel the Second Amendment to the US Constitution and take away from the Americans their favorite AK-47.
Moreover, the last phrase is the key in this post, in which I have to voice the rumors so idiotic that under normal circumstances I would have thrown them into the trash, not really bothering with their reliability.
But according to one of these rumors, the House of Representatives is preparing to vote on the law in the very near future, which will deprive Americans not only of the right to buy weapons, but also allow the government to take away the weapons that they already have, including what they received from their parents as an inheritance.
In my opinion, this is so impossible that I did not even discuss it, but yesterday I return home, turn on the video recorder and in one of Sunday’s political programs I see the adviser to President Conway and I hear how she rejects just such a version of the bill precisely because it lies on the president’s desk as the most likely.
And complete with this idiocy, which is a guaranteed way to transfer the US civil war from a cold stage to a hot, there was a response of one of the Clintonoids to a story about a relative of Trump who was attacked by Jeffrey Epstein ten years ago.
After exchanging glances with his like-minded bodies, he told me that then the casino guards thoroughly beat Epstein up and he sued Trump for a lot of billions of dollars.
And the Democrats are demanding Trump’s tax return because taking into account Epstein’s lawsuit for a busted kidney, Trump is bankrupt!
And that is precisely why he ordered Epstein to be killed, which will lead him to impeachment, which the US Senate will confirm!!!
Is there any evidence Epstein ever filed such a lawsuit against Trump, much less won a settlement? I’ve never heard anything about it before. And civil lawsuits like that are a matter of public record, not some state secret.
I am bringing that story up as an example of another idiotic “conspiracy theory”.
See my post below:
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/he-did-what/#comment-435324
Another opinion from a guy with pretty good credentials:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Pieczenik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3zrc-8_Bsk
Thanks for posting the link to the video Ol’ Scratch. Notice the “glitch” at 1:10?
Quite a provocative video, but it aligns nicely with what we know about these kind of CIA honeypot operations and how they’re typically resolved. Epstein was no doubt a just front man and a stooge, notable mostly for his charm and grace with these elite pols and celebrities. Hard to say whether he’s still alive or not, but the arrest and suicide story is no doubt a ruse to fuel rampant public speculation, no doubt fueled by further CIA disinformation tactics in the aftermath to further fan the flames. At this point in the game they’re actively encouraging conspiracy theories, as they know the explanations for the now rampant and ubiquitous false flag operations we’re seeing everyday don’t hold water. But they also know that’s a huge advantage, as the goal now is to simply sow confusion and dissension among the populace.
There is speculation that Epstein is now in the witness protection program and singing like a canary. I find this interesting because of the picture that accompanied one story where, body on a stretcher, but with the face uncovered as if it was so people could be sure he was dead.
The political & financial elite of the USA & Israel most assuredly wanted him silenced forever. The ‘suicide’ claptrap is just that, it’s claptrap. More aptly he was suicided/murdered/offed/dirt napped/snuffed out/exterminated with extreme prejudice.
Kind of like Apocalypse Now where the intel guy tells the Captain to get rid of the guy in the woods that thinks they are grocery boys running errands for the political masters in drag.
J. Edgar Hoover was the first to master the end game play for the playbook.
RW
Earlier, a commenter pointed out the suspicious connections between William Barr, his father Donald Barr, and Jeffery Epstein. I have checked these assertions via Wickepedia and they appear to be true. I will list them here with sources.
William Barr worked in the CIA as a China analyst from 1973 to 1977.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Barr
His father Donald Barr, Served in the OSS during World War 2. He was headmaster of the Dalton School from 1964 to 1974, during which time he hired Jeffery Epstein as a math teacher, despite Epstein being a 20 year old college dropout.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Barr
Donald Barr wrote a a science fiction novel, “Space Relations” which largely deals with sex slavery.
https://medium.com/@cshechtwriter/donald-barr-wrote-a-book-3023a94a0edc
https://www.amazon.com/Space-relations-slightly-gothic-interplanetary/dp/0860000249
Make of this what you will. These do seem like rather odd coincidences however.
People do seem to forget, Mr. K included, that AG Barr is about as deep in the deep state as one can get. I expect nothing substantively hopeful or good to come from him.
There is an Op-Ed piece in today’s NYT titled Banning Assault Weapons Works written (allegedly) by Joe Biden. I doubt it. I think Joe was invited to write something but had a staffer do it and then had another trusted confidant read it to see if it would pass muster with Joe. The reader told Joe, “Yeah, I think it’s OK to go out under your name.” And so it did.
Who’s got time to write essays? There’s hands to shake and babies to kiss.
And little girls to nuzzle. Oh Joe!
And freshly orphaned babies to hold.
Well Joe does have a tendency to plagiarize ya know.
Just in from the New York AP office 4:40 PM — New York Medical Examiner responsible for the Jeffry Epstein autopsy report, is killed in a botched convenience store robbery. 4:40 PM 8/13/2019
4:40 PM 8/13/2019 – stelmo
==========
OK, you had me there for a minute. That last time and date, being tomorrow, means your post is a joke, sort of.
Well Q, feel free to post possible outcomes about how this thing will finally shake out…If it ever does. I would not hold my breath! Especially at your age.! ;0)
You joke, but it would not surprise me if people close to this case started dropping dead from various causes. We must live in a universe filled with remarkable coincidences since conspiracies are all debunked.
its not 4 – 1 today.
fooled ya.
Maybe Epstein figured out the game was up, wanted to commit suicide, and found a way to do it. For him, The Big Sleep was preferable to 15 or 20 years in Colorado Supermax.
Rip, you must have responded to many suicides in yor career.
Brh
Yes I have, the successful ones are pretty easy calls . Dead, no transport. The idiots that blotch it are the problem. We had an old timer that tried the shotgun in the mouth trick. Well he survived but with about 2/3rds of his face left. Pain in the ass call but was good for a fucked-up story.
Idiot probably used #7 1/2 birdshot, shoulda used #4 turkey load.
Now there’s a case of “too soon old, too late smart”.
That #4 turkey load is a good all around shell for many purposes.
Ma Barker preferred that load for her Browning A5 semi auto. Now that was a sweet shotgun, John Browning’s masterpiece.
Brh
I’ll never forget Shelly Winters as Ma Barker in that movie she did. Citing Ma Barker’s favorite caliber bullets is telling in that I would bet petro-dollars to donuts that you are a long gun owner.
RW
Shelly Winters playing Ma Barker – excellent casting. LOL
“Browning A5 semi auto.”
BRH,
I know a guy who owns half a dozen of the things. Why, I myself, for years, used an A5 “Sweet 16” for crow hunting …had many triples.
I am becoming increasingly annoyed by nearly everything I read. The problem is a failure to define terms. For example: no one ever defines the difference between a white nationalist and a white supremacist. The terms are used interchangeably from one sentence to the next.* But are they as fungible as pennies from the penny stamping machine at the mint? I don’t think so.
*See today’s NYT Op-Ed article titled “What Changed in Charlottesville.”
The mother of all terms in need of precise definition is/are:
.race
.racism
.racist
I have a theory (which I can’t prove) that if you went back to the first dictionary definitions of these words you would find that they did not carry a pejorative sense.
1 casualty in Charlottesville,
Phew!!!
What a massacre!!!
Brh
I see it as a business opportunity, selling “Quik Clot” to convenience and liquor stores.
NEW YORK TIMES. 8-11 FRONT PAGE
NYT bemoans the White nationalism in Sweden–aka sewer den.
You know that failure to define is intentional I assume? It works because most people don’t understand the concept of defining your terms. As if the same words mean the same thing to different people. Without knowing or consenting, you have imbibed some of my Teaching.
With you a white nationalist has zero to do with racism!
I would like to comment a little outside of this particular case and point a few things out.
Our government lied us into a war in Iraq. We know this because of the Downing Street Memos and Scott Ritter, and that there was a complete lack of evidence and nobody was held accountable for “accidentally” starting a war in Iraq over a non existent weapons of mass destruction program. In fact, people were fired from both the news and the intelligence agencies when they (foolishly) pointed out that the Bush administration was “likely” incorrect .
Our government lied to us about why it was bombing Libya. Remember that? Supposedly it was to “prevent a humanitarian crisis” – well it was left in civil war, with slavery markets operating.
Our government lied us into Syria. What would Assad’s motivation be to use chemical weapons against the civilian population there? What would be his strategy doing that? He was setup, those were false flags. The ONE WEAPON that would give the US an excuse to bomb Syria was used, maybe.
How’s that Venezuelan coup going? Juan Guaido have a lot of popular support? That was another lie.
Our government is lying every now and then about Iran. When Iran was supposedly blowing up a Japanese tanker ship, that was HEADED to Iran, Shinzo Abe, the Japanese PM, was in Iran meeting the PM there. That was another lie.
Afghanistan is filled with lies. Do you know that back in 2001, Afghanistan produced about 5% of the world’s supply of opium, and now produces over 80% of the world’s supply – and this was done ALL UNDER US military occupation. Oh, and the US just happens to have an opioid epidemic..
Then we had 2 1/2 years of “Russia hacked our election!!!” and “Trump is a Russian Stooge!!”. 30 months of that.
Finally, what appears to be a pedophile who very well may have worked for an intelligence agency to get politicians and business leaders in compromising position with child RAPE victims gets arrested, and appears to have been done away with in prison.
And now, FINALLY people are starting not to believe the official bullshit. I wonder if any of you know what it’s like to be in an insane world for 18 years, before the rest of the people you’re surrounded with, FINALLY notice it? It’s been extremely lonely here, 18 years.
I wonder how you will react when the full scale of criminality of your government is finally exposed to you? Once you see what is actually going on, you don’t go back to your lala land of denial and gullibility. You never will.
You are absolutely correct about the corrupt, lying scum of a government that America has and has had for a very long time now. I know that I cannot change it, but I denounce the lies and the corruption and I fight the only way that I can, at the small. local level. If judgment is leveled upon this once great nation and the crap that hits the fan falls on everyone, including me, I will be able to say that I denounced the evil and fought in the only way that I knew how to fight it. I hope it works, wish me luck.
RWicks, you forgot to mention 9/11.
I’ve been with you since requesting a discharge from the USAF during the Vietnam War for political reasons and getting it, under honorable conditions.
I see this schtick about WMD and Iraq all the time.
Yet just a little bit of actual research reveals there was WMD found in Iraq and the means to make hundreds of tons of WMD.
With the chemicals found a gas used in wwI could have been made.
There was also 500 tons of Yellow cake shipped off to Canada,
Further some old war heads were found to contain wmd as well.
So none means zero and that is not the truth some where found.
I know it’s a favorite talking point from the arm chair warriors but at the time only a hand full of people were saying don’t do it don’t go in and now people still talking about it use it for political virtue signaling.
As far as Afghanistan it also has huge amounts of natural gas, oil and rare earth minerals as well as a major pipeline running through it.
benr
“I know it’s a favorite talking point from the arm chair warriors but at the time only a hand full of people were saying don’t do it don’t go in and now people still talking about it use it for political virtue signaling.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2765041.stm
“Hundreds of thousands of people have taken to the streets of London to voice their opposition to military action against Iraq.
Police said it was the UK’s biggest ever demonstration with at least 750,000 taking part, although organisers put the figure closer to two million.
“There were also anti-war gatherings in Glasgow and Belfast – all part of a worldwide weekend of protest with hundreds of rallies and marches in up to 60 countries.
I’d say that was a bit more than a handful of people, benr.
The expression ‘virtue signalling’ does mean something, but it is somewhat overused as an knee-jerk insult.
Let me rephrase that then people that are in positions of power that mattered at the time.
Better?
Better, but I think you’re still limiting yourself in terms of other countries than your own. The EU countries almost all were against it, and France was labelled a country of ‘cheese-eating surrender monkeys’ for its pains.
Besides the UK, Poland was the only EU country supporting the US position.
And around the world, there was a massive amount of opposition from national governments:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governmental_positions_on_the_Iraq_War_prior_to_the_2003_invasion_of_Iraq
The Johnson government is about to get us into a similar position again, with Trump able to reap the benefit of
the UK being prised away from the influence of the EU and sucked more closely into the sphere of the US. Seeing John Bolton visiting hasn’t reassured me.
Our post-Brexit future won’t be and never was just about trade. This is about geopolitical alignments and I fear we may pay dearly for the decision in ways that those who voted for it had no clue or intention.
And yes the term virtue signaling is an insult to everyone’s intelligence and is meant as an insult.
It’s insulting that people feel the need to show everyone how superior they are because they must show what they believe on their sleeve!
This is a perfect example of the stupidity of which I post.
https://www.amazon.com/SignsOfJustice-We-Believe-Yard-Sign/dp/B06XQDXG63/ref=asc_df_B06XQDXG63/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=216741068566&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8373058146212295956&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1014218&hvtargid=pla-350953389328&psc=1
I was referring to the knee-jerk use of the term to discredit opponents, in a context like the Iraq war. Those of us who opposed it fiercely at the time are not and were not virtue signallers and neither were those who had the courage to oppose it in Parliament either.
These signs are all over my neighborhood. It makes me kind of nauseous.
@ga
I can’t speak to other countries nor do I really care what other countries think about the actions of the US.
What is good for you may not be what is good for we the people.
The Iraq war was bad inmost contexts but eliminating Saddam and more important his two insane sons was not all bad.
What was bad is it takes a real bastard to keep Iraq under control and used as a foil against Iran.
benr
It’s unfortunate that you don’t care what people think of your actions. Sometimes it’s worth listening to what other people have to say.
You could have dealt entirely differently with Iraq – deposed Saddam and taken a more mature and educated view of the situation, but that wasn’t Bush’s way. A minute fraction of what you spent killing hundreds of thousands of people would have paid salaries to the Iraqi security forces, fed their families and got them on your side, and kept the water and the electricity running (which would have got pretty much all the population on your side.
But there was more money to be made by Halliburton and co. by killing people.
And this whole ‘for/to/of we the people’ thing is irritating, if I may mention it. You don’t hear people saying ‘ do that for we‘, do you? It’s ‘to <us the flippin’ people’. If you’re going to be exceptionalists, let’s see some basic grammar.
*for* us… in this case.
@ga
I don’t expect you to understand why I phrased it the way I did as I don’t know the wording in England’s founding documents,
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
benr:
“…promote the general Welfare…”
It’s been a Yyyyyuge fail on THAT score, huh.
So, benr, seeing one of these signs makes you feel INFERIOR, huh? Does the 1st Amendment bite the dust for you?
I know why you wrote it that way, benr.
But ‘We the people’ in that sentence is the subject of the sentence. If you use ‘we the people’ as the object of the sentence, it just makes you, the people, sound illiterate.
The AG’s after-the-fact outrage rings hollow to me. Given the clear danger that Epstein could be murdered or commit suicide, and given the horrible reputation of the correctional center for corruption, couldn’t Barr have demanded a special, 24/7 detail to guard his cell, answerable directly to him? The “overworked and understaffed” claim is an insulting red herring.
Barr is playing a role for the PTBs. He’s doing his best acting job. Probably will not be Oscar worthy when all said and done. But, it’ll probably do enough to TCB, then retire with that golden deep state parachute.
Yes. He initially recused himself, only to reverse the decision the next day. Was that after ‘further instruction’?
Thanks for the thumbs up, Brh. Since it was such a late post, I thought I would put it up again. Yes, my own creation on the Dinocars theme.
CRUDE AWAKENING
The Dinocars are still gulping from the Black Lagoons
Drinking them down ’till the last teaspoon
Tasting dead life that was there for the taking
The Dinocars came alive with the great Crude Awakening
On today’s topic, I can only ask, was it self erasure or a rash rubout?
Yeah TS, Dutch Schultz, Legs Diamond, Frankie Yale, Mayor Jimmy Walker (Beau James), hard core Damon Runyon New Yorkers who knew what a real rubout was and participated personally in more than a few, would laugh at this penny ante bullsh#t. No smokin tommy guns, no ckalk lines on the pavement, no spent brass tinkling onto the pavement, no hot lead slamming into Ford super 8 sedans … forgetaboutit, you call that a hit?
Brh
BRH,
Why no mention of Frank Nitti? You got something against Italians?
Nah, I’ve got nothing against anybody.
I’m just interested more in prohibition era gangsters, which pre dated by a few years the Italian mafias domination of organized crime in NYC. Italians were around then, but Irish and Jewish gangsters were big players too.
E, during your days as a police officer in the Bay Area, did you ever come across a Tommy Gun, or take one off the street?
Brh
“did you ever come across a Tommy Gun,”
BRH,
During the infamous ambush at 103’d and Eades, several Black Panthers used Automatic weapons to shoot up a police unit and one of the officers (name of Bouchard, as I recall). Weapons used? Stolen M-16 military Auto rifle, and an M-3 “Grease gun”, also stolen and fully auto…it was recovered after a looong chase of 103 blocks on the Nimitz, almost the full length Oakland. The Panthers also had hand grenades, and were throwing them at the pursuit vehicles.
“Tommy Guns” were somewhat unwieldy, cumbersome and heavy…I have owned 6 of them over the years…an interesting curio, but not my first choice in a sporty situation.
A couple of the alternative media reporters interviewed different blokes who had either worked or who had done time in the Manhattan prison where Epstein died. Both emphatically said: “There’s no Fuck’n way Epstein committed suicide in that place.”
We have a criminal government run by a bunch of peadophiles.
Jimmy Dore on Epstein….
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SoFIzKyMmZQ
Former MCC Inmate Says Epstein Suicide Was ‘Impossible’
A former inmate at lower Manhattan’s Metropolitan Correctional Center who spent several months in the prison’s notorious 9 South special housing unit for high-profile prisoners told the New York Post that it would have been ‘impossible’ for millionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein to have killed himself.
“There’s no way that man could have killed himself. I’ve done too much time in those units. It’s an impossibility,” said the former inmate, adding “Between the floor and the ceiling is like eight or nine feet. There’s no way for you to connect to anything.”
“You have sheets, but they’re paper level, not strong enough. He was 200 pounds — it would never happen.”
“They don’t give you enough in there that could successfully create an instrument of death. You want to write a letter, they give you rubber pens and maybe once a week a piece of paper,” and that there’s nothing hard or metal provided.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-11/former-mcc-inmate-says-its-impossible-epstein-have-killed-himself
red scarf suicides.
bourdain
kate spade
chester bennington
chris cornell
etc
okie dokie. No red scarf involved with Epstein. Nor pink, blue, yellow, etc….
Thanks for the reminder though. (BTW….I’ve always had suspicions about Bourdain’s suicide. But can’t prove it. And I didn’t care about the guy anyway. Was never a fan).
Travis,
Somewhere I saw this;
I was surprised at Epstein’s suicide…though not as surprised as Epstein, I imagine….
I read about Epstein and his pedophilia and I am disgusted.
I think of all the Elites and others who profit from activities like his pedophilia. I also think of all the other activities that are occurring in the US under the leadership of many other folks who are making huge profits from drugs and trafficking. This country is sick.
The coverup with the assassination is sickening. The idiots on MSNBC are already trying to tie Trump to the assassination. They prove again they are insane. We are going to see a massive campaign by the media to protect the Left elites that are running away from the Epstein situation as fast as possible.
How the heck did this country get s-o-o biased to the Left that they are so confident of vindication, not just from Epstein’s death, but from the activities he represented. It is almost at the point that the Deep State is The Democratic Party.
Trump threw Epstein out of his circle years ago. Why? Be cause he assaulted a young woman on Trump property. So they cannot get Trump directly as an associate of Epstein. So instead Idiot Joe tries to blame the suicide on Barr and Trump. It is bullshit!
The corruption in this government is under attack now. The public will soon find out if justice will be done against the scum that have allowed these activities to go on over the years, no decades.
Want someone to blame? Try the Playboy advisor and Hefner’s influence in the fifties and on, That is how long ago this started. And all he did was expose the feelings that were here in the first place.
It is irreversible. The next leaders of the immorality set are moving into place now to replace Epstein and El Chapo.
He was not a pedophile, as far as I can tell.
No he wasn’t a pedophile. He seemed to like older teens, but I’m sure he did a few younger and mid teens as well over the years. Basically had Bill Clinton’s same tastes.
If he had clients who preferred children I’m sure he hooked them up. But mostly he trafficked teens.
JohnAZ, if the deep state got to Epstein, it indicates negligence at the very least by Barr and Trump. They should have put him into some safe place they controlled. The more I learn about the long time deep state loyal payer AG Barr – the less I trust him.
What did the Godfather say? “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.” Trump has surrounded himself with traitors and enemies; maybe not such a good idea after all.
Zero Hedge reports Epstein’s lawyers got him off suicide watch.
Let me get this straight, just so I’m not operating under incorrect premises:
A man who has “intimate” (har har) knowledge of the sordid behaviors of our supposed “better” leaders, was incarcerated and obligated to testify under oath, had a recent history of suicidal behavior, and who’s court records have just been unsealed, and who’s testimony could implicate all sorts of “important and influential people” is found dead of “suicide” in a Federal prison under NYC jurisdiction?
And this is a coincidence?
I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but Jesus H, Christ.
No, I also don’t post here often but sometimes I just have to contribute.
I would only suggest to revise the statement that you made as to Mr. Epstein’s “history of suicidal behavior”, to state instead that he had been previously “alleged” to have attempted suicide while incarcerated, though never proven. It is my experience both personal and anecdotal, that the extremely wealthy and the overly narcissistic not only NEVER take their own lives, but they in fact will do absolutely anything possible to extend their questionable existences even one more minute. One reason that this is usually the case is that once they are dead they will give up the good times forever, but another, and more important IMHO, is that they are seriously concerned that eternal judgment is not a myth.
Good points, Walter. Thanks!
Even my wife is calling horse manure on the narrative.
So if she is calling BS then a majority of the country probably is as well.
Oh, I’d also like clarification on another topic that I can’t seem to get elsewhere. Correct me if I’m wrong:
If I don’t feel guilty for being white, then I’m a white supremacist and therefore racist.
If I prefer to associate with those who share my (white?) values then I’m not “woke” and thereby a racist, correct?
If I don’t recognize my “white privilege*” then I am automatically “not woke” and also thereby racist?
And If I don’t acknowledge my “white privilege” in a dominant white, quasi-European culture, then I also tacitly approve of anything and everything my “race” has done and am therefore proud of my race which makes me both a white supremacist and a racist and I’m back to square one.
Like I said, I’m getting confused.
-Bob
*Nevermind that in a culture like say, Japan, I wouldn’t have “white privilege” and would immediately be pegged as gaijin and appropriately marked as “outsider”.
Bob, please refer to AOC’s tweets for the latest in your racial medical condition.
Wow…those tweets. What a shrill, sanctimonious harpy.
I bet she’s a hoot at parties.
Hmm. That’s what you consider ‘shrill’? The fact is that you’re so one-eyed about virtually everything, that anything anyone y that disagrees with your perspective will be shouted down.
Bob you haven’t made it there just yet. If you are White then you are inherently racist. You need say no more. Its in the DNA so you can’t redeem yourself. You will always be wicked. In order to begin the path to absolution you will need to be cleansed of your supremacy and privilege. And this means we need all your stuff for reparation purposes plus we reserve the right to deprive you of your rights as we see fit at any given time. Any questions?
All you need to know is that anyone spewing forth the nonsense you have just typed about is just crazy.
Who cares what they think!
Reprint of my post of November 27, 2018, which I think adequately describes the current multiple theories of Epstein’s “suicide”
Conspirology: Russia, USA, Israel. Religious factor
First of all, the question arises of how pygmy Israel got into this company of the great powers, Israel, which even on the map of the Middle East can hardly be seen?
To answer this question, let me start by clarifying the concept of conspiracy:
For the last 300 years, the powers that be have experienced the bitter lessons of the “color” revolutions, which did not go as they planned, convinced them that after inventing printing press, it is impossible to control the spread of information and controlled chaos is constantly transforming into ordinary chaos, the only way out of which is traditional society.
And, having refused direct control, they had to invent other methods of political control (soft power?) And conspiracy theories occupied an honorable place in it. Their essence is that if the manipulation becomes obvious, then in advance, 3000 theories are instantly invented and published, exposing these manipulations in the most distorted, delusional manner, and publishing the truth by association instantly turns up on the bookshelf under the name “Delirium of a gray gelding”.
Full text at https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/murphys-law-to-the-rescue/#comment-383025
A lot of people believe the TV story that Epstein committed suicide.
The Society is going sadomasochistic dominant submissive tot..Ali..tarian. People believe unbelievable shit because that is what the TV says. And they don’t really believe it. They’re being dishonest. I’d try to get out of there. That’s Mao/ Stalin/ Na…zi level crazy. There could be a blood bath.
Wait. So you are saying lots of people believe Epstein committed suicide, but not really? It actually seems like the majority of people believe he was killed or that he is still alive. But I could be living in a bubble.
They’re just pretending.
“Good news! It’s not a “conspiracy theory” anymore. The media finally understand that government policies affect demographics and that demography matters.”
[In his latest analysis, columnist Gregory Hood at American Renaissance breaks down for us the hypocrisy of the far left mouthpieces at the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Atlantic magazine, Bloomberg News, the AP, the BBC, & Vox.
The human rights group American Renaissance has made the same argument about the United States for decades contra radical levellers like pkrugman/deetrump & Elrond Huppert, who aren’t even Americans.]
“The Indian-controlled portion of Kashmir, known as Jammu and Kashmir (J&K), is the only majority-Muslim state in Hindu India. When India became independent in 1947, Article 370 of its constitution granted special rights to J&K so that it could maintain a Muslim majority.”
“On August 5, India revoked Article 370, to the dismay of most American media. Hindus, they warned, might take over!
Vox’s Alex Ward, for example, noted that Article 375 barred people outside the state from buying property, and was written to ‘prevent India’s majority-Hindu population from moving into Jammu and Kashmir and displacing the Muslims who live there.’ Mr. Ward warned there could be ‘ethnic cleansing.’ In another piece, Mr. Ward wrote that some believe ‘Hindus will flock to the region to push out the Muslims once and for all.’”
“Suggesting that loss of local population control could lead to ‘ethnic cleansing’ sounds like an unhinged conspiracy theory. Mr. Ward himself, in a piece praising Pete Buttigieg’s plan to combat ‘white extremism,’ said the idea ‘that white people are being replaced’ is a ‘white nationalist’ idea promoted by murderers such as the Christchurch shooter.”
“What’s wrong with revoking Article 370? Shouldn’t all Indians be able to buy property in their own country? Preventing ‘outsiders’ from buying property sounds like restrictive covenants to me.
Mr. Ward or some ‘extremism expert’ should tell the Muslim Kashmiris that there is no ‘us’ or ‘them,’ and that diversity will soon be their greatest strength.”
more at…
https://www.amren.com/commentary/2019/08/kashmir-suddenly-the-left-understands-the-great-replacement/
Oh really? Hmmm ok, so suddenly just overnight apparently Ethnocentrism is good and possibly something to fight for. Do they think their biases will go unnoticed I wonder or do they really care if they are noticed or not? I’m thinking that they have lost all restraint and don’t care about anything else but the agenda now.
Pathologist and Fox News Contributor Michael Baden Hired by Jeffrey Epstein’s Team to Observe Autopsy
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/pathologist-fox-news-contributor-michael-161356228.html
From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Baden
Baden was the chief medical examiner of the City of New York from 1978 to 1979. He was chairman of the House Select Committee on Assassinations’ Forensic Pathology Panel that investigated the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
Baden maintains a private forensic pathology consulting practice. He has been a consulting or lead pathologist and an expert witness on a number of other high-profile cases and investigations. He testified at the trial of O. J. Simpson, at Sergeant Evan Vela’s court martial, and at Phil Spector’s murder trial. He has been hired to conduct private autopsies in a number of cases, including the shooting of Michael Brown and the deaths of New England Patriots football player Aaron Hernandez and civil rights lawyer and politician Chokwe Lumumba.
The people are so brain dead and dishonest that they choose what to believe on the basis of emotion and what is convenient. It could go very crazy…mass grave crazy…. I’d try to get out of there.
“I believe that this bloke deserved to be shot in the back of the head beside the roadside because it’s cold, and I needed his warm coat.”
People are Fuck’n Nuts….
Nightcrawler
Get out of where?
The United States….
There is speculation that Epstein is now in the witness protection program and singing like a canary == The Freeholder
Highly likely?
If we throw away all idiotic conspiracy theories, what remains is a competition between the Clinton team, who wanted to eliminate an absolutely crucial witness and the Trump team who desperately needed to make Epstein cooperate with the prosecution – we are talking National Security of the highest order, since it was definitely the sect of the pedophiles who arranged the fire on Losharik and unsuccessful attempt on the live of President Putin.
First move was made by the Clinton team, which almost cost Epstein his life, and made him more susceptible to the prosecution’s offer, which probably included some more mild accommodations for the rest of his life than federal maximum security prison.
After he agreed to cooperate with the prosecution and supplied first batch of evidence, the Trump team transferred Epstein to special witness protection program after staging a second assassination attempt, and now has an upper hand in the game, including opportunity to mercilessly troll Clintons with #ClintonBodyCount.
I hope you are right on that.
He Did What?
http://chasingthesquirrel.com/pics/maga_epstein.png
There have been enumerable disparaging names/terms for dark skinned people who originated from Africa. At first they were referred to as Negroes but that quickly morphed into niggers… probably the most politically incorrect term in any language on earth. I can’t imagine that the term Paki among the Brits has nearly the negative sense to it.
There are probably dozens of disparaging terms that have come and gone (jigaboo, brillohead, spear chucker, spade, etc.) since nigger was essentially outlawed. There was a constant search for a term that could be used in public to identify these people (dare I say these people?) without upsetting them. ‘Blacks’ was the most logical but somehow ‘African American’ became the somewhat officially correct term of the media. Yet ‘blacks’ and ‘African Americans’ is being used about 50-50, almost interchangeably. But still the people who these terms are meant to identify remained on edge and unsatisfied.
There’s another term that’s been around awhile but it never seemed to catch on until very recently when the four female politicians calling themselves “the Squad” emerged with great fanfare. I refer, of course, to “people of color.”
I would love to get a count on how many times ‘people of color’ has been used in all publications vs blacks, African Americans and Negroes just since these four women invented themselves as the Squad. The term is ubiquitous and, to me, sooooooo annoying.
One of the forbidden terms from yesteryear was “colored people.” Theoretically this term would apply to any person with skin color ranging from light tan to black as the ace of spades. Anyone except “white” Caucasians, very few of whom are literally white. But, no, the term was only used in reference to people of African descent. I imagine a South Korean manicurist, much less a dentist, would be appalled to be called a ‘colored person.’ At any rate the term ‘colored people,’ or worse yet, ‘colored folks‘ fell by the wayside or, more accurately, was thrown under the bus.
I have written about this ‘colored people’ vs ‘people of color’ issue before. I STILL don’t get it. How can ‘people of color’ be totally politically correct while ‘colored people’ is totally offensive.
I would like someone with a flair for linguistics, perhaps Green Alba, to explain this to me. And for a second opinion I would turn to Asoka Krugman.
Colorful People?
I know you did not ask me but I don’t give a rats ass. The answer is obvious.
‘people of color’
Note people comes first. People (the group you are in) is INCLUDING people who have color.
‘colored people’
The word colored comes first this time. The emphasis is reversed. Color is used to EXCLUDE people this time. Color is more important than people here.
Linguistically brains are hardwired to generate the right grammar depending on a situation being inclusive or exclusive. Differences between people are just differences, and both statements are factually correct and consistent. But culture defines systems based on arbitrary value assignments between people to create groups. Groups to express power relationships. Engineered to maintain existing power relationships and social order, different grammatical forms are available to be applied to the native language of a speaker.
Just because a word comes first, that doesn’t mean it’s more important in a sentence. English is structured so that modifiers generally come before the nouns they modify. ‘People of Color’ don’t have a Labeling problem; they have a Being problem. Being black in America means being opposed to America.
They see themselves in terms of opposition to their White environment. That’s what “White Privilege” is in their minds, the fact that they are not easily assimilated into White society, even after 65 years of establishment effort, & they feel (perhaps justifiably) resentful about it. In order for White Privilege to vanish, every single White in America must be brainwashed into believing without question things which are very doubtful. How likely is that?
I’m tired of the term “white people”. We should insist on being called “people of pinkish tint”. And I want a whole new set of pronouns just for us. When I think of some, I’ll get back to you.
Don’t forget “people with freckles” as a minority in their own right.
Oh yes, the much maligned “unwanted, red-headed step-children” of history.
But many Big Dem Pols speak of their own ‘White Privilige’. What gives? Are they simply virtue signalling, trolling for votes? Why bother? They already have the black and hispanic vote sewed up. Why grovel and publicly debase yourself when, politically, it is not necessary?
Brh
why not? ever see the term, ‘virtue signalling?’.
I AM MORE VIRTUOUS THAT THOSE OTHER RICH WHITES.
it is pretty fucking likely. To support white privilege America has been brainwashed into believing without question a Santa bag of things that are fucking bat shit crazy. How likely is that to happen, to believe crazy shit? Look around. It has already happened a million times over so likely-hood is 100%.
To be embedded in culture, any culture, a certain insanity is needed to survive. The oppressed must learn to oppress themselves since daily hard repression is energy intensive and not needed. Oppressors want compliance with as little maintenance as possible. They have better things to do. Like fuck teenagers.
I see, so you’re saying what we believe is a mass delusion, & our rock-bottom beliefs can be manipulated any way TPTB want them to be for a “just & more verdant world” to use a phrase I hear often on PBS. That they are making a mighty effort is in no doubt. That they will succeed can be summarized with,
dream on, mad dog.
Rock bottom beliefs are hard to find.
“If you want servants, perhaps you can perceive it in your best interests to terrorize others into serving you. This is as true for terrorizing women as it is for children as it is for the poor as it is for nonwhites as it is for nonhumans as it is for any others to be enslaved.”
A woman I have heard only needs a beating a year to keep her in line. Do you know if this is true Tate?
Quotes without attribution? Are you just quoting yourself? I see, legend-in-his-own-mind sort of thing.
“Are you just quoting yourself?”
Took me five seconds to confirm that the answer is no. Try it.
No. Their color is their self identity. They’ve made that abundantly obvious. And P of C broadens it into being a coalition against Whites. It’s much broader than “CP” which just meant Blacks.
Kdog falls here, babbling in PC jargon while I in contrast get to the pith, the kernel of things.
The bee makes a lot of noise outside the flower but once inside she becomes quiet as she gorges on the nectar. Kdog never enters in, “content” to buzz outside….
Tate is right: they’ll never be Americans nor do they wish to be. Thus they are only legal or nominal Americans or Americans in name only. The spirit saves but the letter killeth (St Paul). And when the Law serves the latter instead of the former, the Nation or Culture is doomed.
Thus they are only legal or nominal Americans or Americans in name only.
Your mental refinement shows. American through and through. My random jargon could never hope to tower to such intellectual heights. You show an ability to manipulate the abstract that I can only dream of.
No doubt you will agree that since men do not get pregnant maternity leave is totally unfair.
There it is. P of C broadens it into a coalition against Whites. That’s the sum & substance of the term.
The answer is obvious. – Dog
===========
Frankly Dog, your explanation has shed little light for me. Would you favor saying Harvard is loaded with ‘people of smarts?’
That the blind cannot see is my problem why?
Only because I must share their world but I don’t have to share your false values. I feel good enough about myself I don’t have to pretend to believe a foolishness that economically selected groups selects for intelligence at the same time when daily evidence supports the exact opposite conclusion. To think Harvard is loaded with people of smarts any more than a Cow-Polly is something that is not true and could not possibly be true.
You disagree, prove it. Intelligence is a secondary consideration to economic background. Simple logic suggests the process then must select for well connected stupidity but simple logic won’t get you by. To get buy you choose to believe nonsense and support by acquiescence, the injustice that lie was erected to support.
Writing ‘your explanation has shed little light for me’ is a clever trick. It got you two more paragraphs. 🙂
To think Harvard is loaded with people of smarts any more than a Cow-Polly is something that is not true and could not possibly be true. – Dog
=========
^This^ sentence tells me you have completely missed my point. My point has to do with your apparent preference for placing adjectives AFTER the nouns they modify. It has nothing to do with Harvard’s reputation (whether deserved or undeserved) for containing lots of smart people or people of smarts.
That the blind cannot see is my problem why? – Dog
==========
What is the purpose of ^this^ convoluted sentence structure? “Why is it my problem that the blind cannot see?” would be so much simpler.
BTW, despite the smiley face at the end it is fairly obvious that my long comment about the term ‘people of color’ has angered you and I don’t understand why.
I thought Noo Yawk Jews talk like that. Maybe it comes from Yiddish grammatical structure adapted to English.
Intelligence is highly correlated to economic success.
Ah, in other words you are setting the table. Got it!
All dogs eat.
It’s psychological. The salient principle is that Whites must be kept of balance. Always wrong in other words. So once Whites bow down to one politically correct term it must be changed so they’re wrong again.
Q,
I should not be telling stories on myself…but;
One day my partner and I rolled up to a Safeway Grocery store located close to the Berkley border in upper West Oakland. The armed store security (this was in 1970…armed…security…) had made a citizen’s arrest on a shoplifter. It was my partner’s turn to do the paperwork, and as he was doing so, he was repeatedly interrupted by the security guard, who was obviously Polynesian, or Hawaiian. The security guard was making a pest of himself, trying to tell my partner, (almost 20 years on the force) how to write the paper.
When the prisoner was secured by another unit and removed to the jail, my partner got into the car and was laughing. I asked him why, and he told me that on the paperwork, he listed the security guard, the lead witness and arresting citizen, as…”colored”…it seemed hilarious at the time….
Why hasn’t anyone mentioned it yet? Is it a secret? Is the topic taboo? The confabulations are underway and conspiracy theories abound, from the outlandish to the outrageous.
Was it the Clintons? Was the pope so outraged that he colluded with some cardinal, or some bishop in the New York archdiocese? Was it an angry, jealous janitor who never got enough sex? Oh, wait a minute, maybe it was Trump together with Barr. You know, that Barr is no bar magnet for chicks. And Trump nailed a lot of nymphs.
Okay, okay, enough beating around the bush. Hmmm, maybe I shouldn’t use that expression. The ultimate cause of all of this, what got Epstein erased eventually, is the Power of Pussy. Nay, nay, hold your tongue and give thought to the Source.
Think about it. You’re rich, powerful, driven, and you want what many men crave but will never have. Pussy galore. No, not the band or that Bond girl.
And you’re such a high achiever that you hanker for the hymen, that hallowed prize that comes before the honey pot. You can never get enough around your insatiable shaft. You would die for it and you, Epstein, did. So, in that way, he killed himself, even if by other hand.
You say he was weak? Yes, weak before the Power.
They must have both. Scylla And Charybdis. Many have fallen beneath the Power. First with mighty thrust and spear, then prostrate and limp with fear.
How far from the Lover, these men, dreaming of Priapus!
The first ever hymn to the hymen. Long over due. No doubt do overs are possible now with modern surgery. Might be important in some parts of the world.
That’s good, hymn to the hymen.
‘Hey meester, you want my seester, she’s a virgin again, uh, I mean she’s a virgin. You can have meester, good young koochie.’
You’ve heard of the asbestos related disease “Mesothelioma”.
When I was in Korea the ladies had a disease called “Me so horny”
Me so hawney.
And…the link;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BlpecFVIq8
The prosecutorial teams were mustered, now robbed of their prize.
“Glib jocks quiz nymph to vex dwarf.” A pangram.
Does anyone have the link to the Epstein court documents? Thank you
https://www.coreysdigs.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/U-S-v-Jeffrey-Epstein-Indictment.pdf
https://www.coreysdigs.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/U-S-v-Jeffrey-Epstein-Indictment.pdf
https://www.coreysdigs.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Giuffre-unseal.pdf
Depositions wouldn’t load for me, but you can try it:
https://www.coreysdigs.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/epstein_depositions.pdf
thanks bud
https://nypost.com/2019/08/13/why-was-jeffrey-epsteins-death-on-4chan-before-it-became-public/
Uh oh
Police captain shot in New Haven after engaging suspect in a fierce gun battle outside Yale University. He is alive.
Suspect is on the lam, described as having a goatee and Rastafarian dreadlocks. Apparently there is a related fatality as well, suspect, police captain and DOA all being community members.
What a downer. Spirits were soaring on Sunday when 200,000 Puerto Ricans showed up for the Puerto Rican Day parade. “Pride was on display” according to the local news.
Ok then, as long as its not ‘white pride’ it is perfectly acceptable, encouraged even.
And just yesterday, at city hall, aldermen and immigration ‘advocates’ announced plans for New Haven to declare itself a sanctuary city for peoples from the whole world. Everybody is welcome! Its already a sanctuary city but this is something new, a wide open city like Amsterdam in the 17th century.
Brh
Let me know how much violence occurs at parade.
Knife fights?
” Rastafarian”
BRH,
Do you know what “Rastafarian” means”
Haile Selassie (once the demi-god ruler of Ethiopia)… actual given name at birth was…”Ras Tafari” (or some derivation)
So a Rastafarian is a follower of….
The only problem is, state resources are limited.
There isn’t much money available to support hordes of people coming in “from the whole 3rd world”.
The numbers just don’t add up. Whitey is stretched to the limit supporting the people who are already here “from the whole 3rd world.”
Brh
The argument goes that the more people we have the more brains there will be figuring out how to do more with less. The end result will be a world with lots of people but more stuff to go around and more space for everybody being the end result. Mars and stars my bitches. Don’t let a little starvation get in your way.
It is called magic, so have faith! Remember there are systems of math where 2 + 2 is not 4 so if anybody really gets into your shit tell them you learned your stuff doing Ayahuasca in the Jungles of South America and that you are a disciple of Terence McKenna. Then watch them blink and then say something else to them quick.
This is America, you don’t have to put up with sanity. It is your right. Learn to befuddle and confuse like everyone else.
So then you are definitely against unlimited immigration?
https://youtu.be/fFnOfpIJL0M
‘Somewhere, somehow, somebody
Must have kicked you around some
Who knows, maybe you were kidnapped
Tied up, taken away, and held for ransom
‘Homo Corporatus’ is the dominate species on this planet. Being the dominate species means you are not constrained to adapt, and thus, in Darwinian justice, exist in frail vulnerability to change. And change is the one constant engine driving events. We were never intended to inhabit an eternal ‘locus parenti’ on this planet. The key to survival is sharing…sharing this intended Eden’s creatures with the gift of life. Sharing habitat. Sharing with compassion. Do not be a victim of yourself.
So are you saying that humans need to intentionally remove themselves from the top of the food chain?
No, it’s YOU who’s saying that.
Op-Ed: Why I resigned as an immigration judge
By Ilyce Shugall
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2019-08-03/immigration-court-judge-asylum-trump-policies
“I have been an immigration lawyer dedicated to fairness and due process for immigrants my entire career. In 2015, convinced that my 18 years of experience as an advocate would make me a good immigration judge, I applied for the job.
“Most immigration judges are former attorneys from the chief counsel’s office of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, former assistant U.S. attorneys or former attorneys from other federal government agencies. Former advocates are appointed less frequently, but I believed in the importance of having judges from varied backgrounds on the bench and therefore applied.
“I made it through the application and vetting process and was appointed to the bench in September 2017. I resigned this March because I could no longer in good conscience work as an immigration judge in the Trump administration.
“… [N]othing prepared me for the unprecedented, unfair and unworkable policies the Trump administration imposed on the courts and the immigration process. … In 2018, Atty. Gen. Jeff Sessions and the director of the Executive Office for Immigration Review, which oversees the immigration courts, began imposing quotas and performance metrics that affected the day-to-day function and independence of the judges. We were notified that all judges were expected to complete 700 cases a year to receive a satisfactory performance review. EOIR also published performance metrics for the judges that established specific timelines for adjudication of cases and motions. …
“My colleagues and I felt the impact of the case quotas on our ability to render correct and well-reasoned decisions. My calendar was fully booked with cases through 2021. The judges in San Francisco, where I served, were told we could not schedule any cases in 2022 until our calendars showed that three cases were scheduled every day through the end of 2021. …
“This meant that the judges were forced to schedule at least two cases in one time slot (there being two slots a day) — regardless of whether it was possible to hear two cases in such a short time frame or whether this would allow a judge to consider fully the merits of each case, which often involved determining life or death issues. …
“Shortly after we were told to hear three cases a day, we were also told we could not schedule interpreters for two different languages in each of the morning or afternoon sessions. We were told we needed to match languages or pair English-language cases with other languages, though we had no tools to assist us in coordinating languages.
“The impact of these administrative policies, while bad on judges’ morale and workloads, was worse for the immigrants appearing at court. The pressure to complete cases made me less patient and less able to uphold the constitutional protections required to properly adjudicate cases.”
—
Emphasis added. That last sentence should chill every American. The rule of law is not something that’s nice to have; it’s the critical difference between freedom and tyranny. The Fourth Amendment is already a dead letter, especially within the jurisdiction of Customs and Border Patrol — 100 miles inward from the border, which covers nearly 2 out of 3 people in the USA.
If you value your freedom, you should be calling for your government to fund and hire judges, and ensure they have the resources to adjudicate immigrant cases properly. Problems like this may start at the periphery, but they spread to the core in time. When taking shortcuts with the rule of law becomes the norm, sooner or later someone you care about (or you yourself) are going to get cut as well.
Elrond reminds me of my tenth grade French teacher. I didn’t like him much and he didn’t like me either lol. I felt like he specifically tried to create problems and issues. First he made me move from the back of the room to the front of the room right in front of his desk which made me so mad I made sure to roll my eyes at him every day which I know was rude and bad but I just couldn’t get over it. Then he would call me out in class and correct me for every little thing and he was just always trying to embarrass me is how I took it. Then it all went to the next level when he accused me of abusing hall pass privileges. It was kinda true though. I always needed to get out of there and would ask for the hall pass. Then one day I guess I may have been gone for a little too long and stupid me was down the hall from the class room leaving a little note on a bulletin board for someone ;-). And that is when he stepped out into the hallway and saw me and told me to get back to class. Next stop was the principal’s office where he accused me of lying, a bad attitude, and “behavioral problems” and do you know he was able to get me suspended in house for three days. Yeah, in house suspension was sitting in basically what seemed like a broom closet and completing assignments all day on an old computer. One of my friends was so sweet she would sneak in and give me pixie sticks to cheer me up. I kinda liked not having to go to his class and even joked like gee maybe I should get suspended more. And then soon enough, I was right back in that class again.
🙂 Why does NONE of that story surprise me, SSL?
Interesting Elrond, but unfortunately, from my experience, theoretical wonderfulness is not something that can ever be had in a “legal system”. I have spent most of my adult life working with lawyers and judges and have even appointed our municipal judge in my day. It is all political and the judges are all political and some of them work for the left and some for the right, but they all report to a “higher authority” than the people of “the law”.
Recently I met a new friend’s wife who is an immigration lawyer in Newark, NJ. Most of her clients, she told me, were illegals who were caught in criminal activities. Her role, which she is very good and successful at, is working with federal agencies like the FBI to place these people in employment positions just like the movie, “Catch Me If You Can”, where they can work, pay taxes, make a lot of money, and do a better job than some green college kid can do.
There will be no correction, no coming back, no New and Fair systems of government anywhere, they are all too old and too corrupt. Only fools like me continue to fight it all at the small local level and we are not even sure why we do it sometimes. Perhaps because selling out or dreaming just does not cut it for us.
You understand something the vast majority don’t understand yet, Walter: “There will be no correction, no coming back, no New and Fair systems of government anywhere, they are all too old and too corrupt.”
And further, we’re not voting our way out of this. The demographics paint a depressing picture, but folks, closing your eyes won’t change a thing.
Not, I’ll not, carrion comfort, Despair, not feast on thee;
Not untwist — slack they may be — these last strands of man
In me ór, most weary, cry I can no more. I can;
Can something, hope, wish day come, not choose not to be.
— Gerard Manley Hopkins
It’s a true and living prophet of despair you are, Tate. Carrion comfort indeed. In fairness, JHK’s blog sure is the place for you.
That’s a wonderful poem, one of those college anthology poems.
Many of us have paradoxically grown somehow ‘younger’ as we’ve aged physically, giving up the old delusions that we learned in college.
“Ah, but I was so much older then,
I’m younger than that now.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGEIMCWob3U
Or simply a prophet of Truth. You deny the truth it seems Elrond. After all the facts are simple and real. You can hope all you want and yes hope is a good thing, a great things sometimes. But see, blind hope is sort of like blind faith. You know how bad blind faith is now don’t you? I think you may have mentioned how bad it is before? But anyway, what is your hope? Maybe you have more hope in the systems that exist because they tend to favor and validate your viewpoints? Either way it is very true that demographics are destiny and all the current ways of doing things are ultimately unsustainable economically, culturally, politically, etc.
Have you seen this series by the Anatomically Correct Banana about the destruction of Portland, Maine by Catholic Charities and their Tribal allies?
The picture in part 3 is priceless: A Somali holding a sign threatening to leave, “Don’t make us seek refuge elsewhere”.
https://theanatomicallycorrectbanana.com/home/2019/8/10/the-way-life-should-be-vol-iii-with-palms-outstretched
I’ve been following that. The Anatomically Correct Banana is a very good, nay great source of insight into what ails this people.
Walter
What a clear headed post that was.
From somebody based in reality, in the trenches trying to make things work for people on a practical level. No platitudes or BS.
Not a dilettante (like myself, for example)
BRH
>>> This meant that the judges were forced to schedule at least two cases in one time slot (there being two slots a day)
So basically this guy is whining because they wanted him to adjudicate four cases per day?! This isn’t the OJ trial; these are migrants who must show compelling evidence of a “well-founded fear of persecution”. For example, is this person a journalist who wrote articles critical of the regime and received multiple death threats? Were family members executed in cold blood? Stuff like that. Not, “I like to be in America! OK by me in America! Everything free in America!” That doesn’t count, Elrond.
Exscotticus, not sure if you’re lazy or lacking in reading comprehension, but it clearly says three cases per day, not four. I even bolded it. The judges have to double up one out of every two time slots.
And you also reinforce my point, and Judge Shugall’s point, of how dangerous it is to make due process optional. Because of how worked up you get about immigration, you spend your energy criticizing me while cutting your government the very slack that it’ll be tying around your own neck later. Tell me I’m wrong.
>>> Exscotticus, not sure if you’re lazy or lacking in reading comprehension
Right back at you. It says…
>>> This meant that the judges were forced to schedule at least two cases in one time slot (there being two slots a day)
2 x 2 = what Elrond?
I never said make due process optional; I said due process doesn’t require a months-long OJ trial for every migrant. Four per day should be easy. That’s two hours per not counting breaks.
Ever go to traffic court? And sit there all day and watch all the cases? I have. Most are over before they even begin. Here’s how it works: your word versus cop’s word—you lose. That accounts for nearly all the cases.
And from what I’ve read, most migrants present no compelling evidence of a qualifying “well-founded fear of persecution”.
Exscotticus, the effort it costs to get this simple idea across exceeds any likely benefit, but nonetheless I feel compelled.
Per the article, the immigration judges have two time slots per day for hearing cases. The former attorney general, Mr. Sessions, required of the judges that they schedule three cases per day, and fit them into two time slots. 2 x 2 is irrelevant, because it’s not math — the number three was handed down by the attorney general’s office. I know this because I read the article, and understood it.
If someone aspires to have their opinions taken seriously, it behooves them to master such simple facts before making public proclamations. At this point it’s not about the number, it’s about whether you still want to save face. The way to do that is to just take the point, in silence. If you go on complaining about it, you simply make yourself look more the fool.
Finally, my point about due process stands. Erosion of due process is a step on the path to dispensing with due process altogether. Insisting on due process in all circumstances is the best way of taking your own freedom seriously.
>>> Per the article, the immigration judges have two time slots per day for hearing cases.
Elrond, the article says, “three cases were scheduled every day through the end of 2021”. It doesn’t say that Sessions demanded judges take one time slot and divide it in half. The judges could have dispensed with this arbitrary “two time slots per day” and just declared that there will now be “three time slots per day”. If we reasonably assume that each time slot is of equal length, then each case would have consumed 33.3% of the day. But that’s not what happened. Instead, these judges decided to take one of their time slots and divide it in half. So, in the course of a day, one lucky trial would get 50%, and the other two would get 25% each. That’s on the judges—not the AG.
These judges created an artificial crisis by arbitrarily choosing to apportion time the way they did. Moreover, they’ve proven that they can fit two cases into one slot, which means they can do it for the other slot as well.
>>> Insisting on due process in all circumstances is the best way of taking your own freedom seriously.
Show us where there’s a guaranteed 50%-of-the-day time slot for a traffic offense. Do you think traffic court handles just two cases per judge per day?! Obviously some cases merit 5 minutes, while other cases might merit 5 days. It all rather depends on the merits of the case, yes?
Here’s what we do know: Most asylum cases don’t qualify, and over one-third of migrants released while awaiting trial never return. So while you’ve shown amble concern for migrants that are allegedly not getting their due process rights, you’ve shown no concern whatsoever over migrants abusing this process to achieve entry into the country. It’s an incredible injustice that so many migrants are scamming the system and literally changing the demographics of the nation. Sorry but until that’s resolved, due process rights must be adjusted accordingly.
And you find it not at all weird that we have to worry about due process for someone that doesn’t even belong here? Treat someone humanely and decently absolutely. Due process rights? Please! That is for citizens. If you don’t belong here I can’t see any other option but to get you right to that border and put you on the other side. If you operated your personal household the way you expect us too (clearly you never post much about Canada) you would be flat broke and would probably have random Central Americans and Muslims all over your house and no idea who was or was not there. Oh and yes I did make the comparison though I already know that you will say such a comparison is completely out of hand and untenable.
“Due process rights? Please! That is for citizens. If you don’t belong here I can’t see any other option but to get you right to that border and put you on the other side. “
I think you can possibly take that view once you’ve relieved yourself of your obligations under international law, by withdrawing from international refugee protocols by which you are currently bound (and I realise you would be happily do that, but you can’t pre-empt it, so that’s what you should be pushing for if that’s what you want).
It works both ways, of course. And none of us knows what the future will bring for our children.
And you don’t need to ask me if I oppose unlimited immigration and open borders because I’ve told you that a dozen times.
*would happily*
That’s good advice Alba. Next question for all candidates. Do you support the withdrawal of the US from all international refugee and migration pacts/treaties? Yes, the tables could easily turn on us since nothing is a guarantee you are right. Who do you believe would take us in? Mexico wouldn’t. Canada won’t. I bet borders would become super important and protected to the death if millions of White Americans or maybe White Scots were suddenly searching for a new home.
GreenAlba, I’m perfectly happy with the USA meeting its International treaty obligations and providing these migrants with their due process rights.
All five minutes of it.
” I bet borders would become super important and protected to the death if millions of White Americans or maybe White Scots were suddenly searching for a new home.”
Borders are already super important, as far as I’m concerned. I see no conflict whatever between secure borders and a humane asylum policy.
‘White Scots’?! I don’t think you’ll find Scotland withdrawing itself from its international obligations. You must do as you choose, but it will have repercussions beyond asylum, I imagine.
What do you mean exactly regarding repercussions beyond asylum? Surely its possible to pick and choose what international treaties we want to follow? Or are you saying that if the US doesn’t live up to its commitments regarding refugee resettlement then other countries may become less cooperative with the US on other issues in response?
I’m simply saying it will change who you are as a nation and how you are perceived among other civilised nations. I don’t have a crystal ball, so I don’t know how that would pan out and in what ways.
We all have an opinion of China based on the way it behaves, which we mostly don’t admire. Nobody much trusts them. Just as an example (not a direct comparison because the issues are different).
Like I said, I see no conflict between having strong borders and a humane asylum system. The bit in between is mostly administration.
Exscotticus thinks the admin should be limited to five minutes per person because he puts more emphasis on ‘process’ than on ‘due’, but it’s still an administrative problem. And if it’s proving costly, because so many people see you as their saviour, then perhaps we should direct some UN charity in your direction, in the way that might happen in a country hit by a standard tsunami. If migration is a global problem, then the solutions, or at least responsibilities, should at least partly be global, perhaps.
Although I know you hate the word ‘global’, obviously.
If only we could get the CO2 emissions from your consumption to stay within your borders and only affect your country, then a lot of people would be happy. Perhaps you could arrange that, in the interests of nationalism? But I suspect you are quite happy for those borders to be entirely open.
>>> Exscotticus thinks the admin should be limited to five minutes per person because he puts more emphasis on ‘process’ than on ‘due’
No, GreenAlba, I think it should be limited because, statistically speaking, the majority have no case, and claim asylum as if entering a free raffle or lottery. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain by lying. Many are released into the USA while their “case” is adjudicated, at which time they ignore the summons to return and join the ranks of illegals.
Of the 2,498,375 aliens the United States permitted to remain free pending trial over the last 20 years, 37.3 percent of this number — 918,098 — never came to court.
It’s an insane process that’s leading to cultural genocide.
“Of the 2,498,375 aliens the United States permitted to remain free pending trial over the last 20 years, 37.3 percent of this number — 918,098 — never came to court.”
Maybe they met your ilk and decided to head home after all.
People of color my ass. I’m a proud Guinea-Wop-Dago American of Italian ancestry . At the end of the summer after being outside most every day I’m darker than Lena Horne ever was. Am I a person of color?
Are you more proud of being an American or of being of Italian descent or are both qualities equal in your mind?
He reject the concept of race. Thinks it’s just skin color. So with his suntan he’s just as Hispanic as a Hispanic or as Black as a light skinned Mulatto.
Goofy stuff from an otherwise smart guy.
Ah ok I see. For a moment I was thinking he was trying to get special rights (people of color rights) for being Italian. It is strange to me that with all that we have learned about DNA that indicates that the most slightest of variations can create real differences between people and then of course species, etc., that people would believe that race as we understand it is unimportant. It’s critically important based on what we have learned it seems to me. Notice too how the same people will emphasize the sameness of DNA. Like, oh well we are 98% genetically related to chimpanzees so look how similar we are to them. Well yes, this is true in one way. But that 2% makes all the difference in the world so shouldn’t that be considered important?
Yes, it’s as if one was charting a course in a Starship and then planning to hibernate for the hundred years it takes to get there. If one was a fraction of a millimeter off in the setting (if done that way) or one/thousandth off in one’s calculations, you would end up millions of miles or even light years away from one’s proposed destination.
It’s the same with the genetic code or genotype. A small change at that level leads to a big change in the phenotype or the level of expression.
Given the nature of the Bell Curve which describes the range of IQ: a small change in the mean (the top of the Bell) leads to far fewer people of great ability, with IQs in the 130’s and above. This will be exactly the result of mixing with even light skinned Hispanics. In other words, the no big deal is actually a very big deal since any Civilization depends on people like that, ultimately for its very existence and prosperity.
Wow that’s a very interesting analogy and sums up a complex topic with ease. After you put it like that I can really see how its as serious as life and death.
Vlad, where the fuck did I ever say I rejected the concept of race? I’m white Caucasian I suppose. Grandparents from the Alps in the north of Italy whatever that tells ya. Sometimes I really can’t figure where you are coming from.
A little story. Around 1980, during the States push for affirmative employment some state arsehole came poking around the firehouse asking to see how many Hispanics we had on the payroll. Well we had two, A Garcia and a Rodriguez. Thing was they were white as snowflakes 1st generation Spaniards. He met them and they talked his ear off in Spanish. Real Spanish not that PR shit talk. State inspector was satisfied and signed off on the city. Question for you. Were Garcia and Rodriguez White or Hispanic?
I remember you saying as much. That you don’t see race, boasting of your non-White friends. This kind of vacillating is very common btw. At least you’re not a committed Non-Racist or Anti-White White. Glad to have you aboard – at least for today!
Didn’t know that. It’s the American Creed, which is very powerful, thus excusable. My last sifu told us that he was told to go to the back of the bus, growing up in the South — he was Sicilian. He thought it was funny. His politics were right of Attila the Hun. Those who are secure in their heritage belong to us in the end.
I’m an American, born and raised an American. I just stated that my ancestry is Italian. That really has nothing to do with my nationality.
Gotchya, it makes sense that you are proud of your heritage as you should be. But in the greater scheme of things that is what is wrong with our “melting pot”. I am not saying that about you or your beliefs particularly, but there are so many people with dual loyalties that it is undermining the social fabric of our country. I noticed when I had to go to Baton Rouge the other day that all of the newly arrived Hispanic illegals (sorry but I just assume they are because so many really are) fly their countries flags on the rearview mirrors. In the stores I hear them happily speaking Spanish. Why should I be made to feel like a stranger in the country I was born in and that my family has lived in for centuries?
“Why should I be made to feel like a stranger in the country I was born in and that my family has lived in for centuries?”
Is that what the native Indians said, as they died?
Yes, we conquered them. Woe to the Vanquished!
“Yes, we conquered them. Woe to the Vanquished!”
Is that from the Sermon on the Mount or the Ten Commandments? I forget.
SSL
You nailed it! I do not understand people here calling them selves hyphenated names. We are Americans, tied to the flag, the anthem and the liberty given to us by our Founding Fathers.
If someone wants to be a Black, go where the Blacks are, Africa. I will guarantee you won’t like it. If you want to be a Mexican, go home to Mexico.
This is America. Act like it. Those two athletes need to have their medals stripped and thrown off the team. Someone needs to tell them what being an American is all about.
The worst are Progressive wealthy white elitists that populate the Democratic Party. They need to go to hell!
Thank you John. In a true nation there is no hyphenation. A Nation is actually a family, but the modern idea of the nation-state is of course very far off from that reality. And yes, in a nation that adheres rigidly to Civic Nationalist policies there can be no hyphens or multiple loyalties. Of course as you know, it would be best to align Nation with Race. But one step at a time and a time for everything. In our current predicament I do view most White Elites, among others, as being dangerous to our collective survival as you do.
Italy? Sorry dude that’s Europe. Europe is white. White is bad.
Like Rosanna Arquette, you must publicly denounce your whiteness. Something along the lines of. “I’m sorry I was born white and privileged. It disgusts me. And I feel so much shame.”
Like actress Eva Longoria, so proud of her mestizo heritage. DNA 25% non White.
” Am I a person of color?”
Saint,
Permit me…I cannot help myself…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R9Qiej-Tqo
I’m reading a book called Hitler’s Secret Army, an account of traitors, spies and saboteurs in the UK during WW2.
You won’t be surprised to know that a fair number of the British aristocracy were out and out traitors, fully on board with the Nazi agenda, actively conspiring and working against the Allied war effort.
Neither will you be surprised to find out that there were two tiers of justice and penalties for such behavior. People low down on the societal totem pole were interned, imprisoned and hanged for such stuff, their aristocratic betters brought in for tea and a gentlemanly discussion, their school ties and prestige and title and social position getting them off.
That this stuff isn’t cricket old boy shouldn’t have required a lot of elaboration, that it was delusional besides should have been obvious. Counter-factual history of course is as the name suggests, but there’s good ole common sense to consider, the idea of the Nazis having a lot of time for the toffs, the lords and ladies keeping their positions and privileges in a National Socialist regime downright laughable given the number of loyal Germans needing rewards for risking their lives. Those estates and country houses would have been irresistible, those bank accounts equally so, just begging to be divvied up.
What’s this got to do with anything? Just this, history may not repeat but it sure does rhyme.
They’re already setting the template for the all the multitudinous Russiagate frauds and malfeasances by letting Comey off the hook, declining to prosecute for his revealing memos with classified information. That they should have been so solicitous with Flynn but that’s neither here nor there.
The British aristocrats were societal and ruling class insiders and as such got special dispensation. So it will be with many if not all American Deep State ruling class insiders who did their patriotic duty, putting themselves at risk of prosecution by bending and breaking laws to get that charlatan Trump off the podium. It was selflessness and self-sacrifice, ya see, not anything sinister nor, heaven forfend, criminal behind all this. That’s what the narrative will be.
If necessary, legal justifications and reasoning and worm-holes will be conjured. They’ll say things like “insufficient evidence”, they’ll say there was “no criminal intent”, or they’ll say there was honest belief that Putin had tilted election results and that Trump himself was bent. Purity of mind and motive in other words. See, if you really try you can come up with all sorts of stuff.
As to Epstein, sometimes things are exactly what they look like, so tell me, what does this look like? Does this look like a rub-out? This was an exceedingly convenient death given the number of wealthy and connected people the deceased partied with.
The American ruling class may let one another off the hook but it showed its debility by conducting a years long sham investigation into sloppily and laughably concocted allegations of Russian collusion and after all that time and money coming up goose-eggs, the target of their malice walking off unharmed.
The American msm did likewise spending who knows how much energy trying to whip up fervor for Trump’s resignation. Didn’t work, didn’t happen, Trump is still stinkin’ up the joint.
Powerful foreign rivals take the measure of the United States peerage, but so do people at home in the lower rungs of American society. This is a social order that wobbles, the American aristocracy showing daily its its weakness, its delusion, it’s incapacity for decision-making.
They tried mightily, or maybe not so mightily. Trump is still there. They may not prosecute the malefactors, those being people like themselves, of the same class. But, in the end, the malefactors failed. That is where it’s at. Trump still rules.
Of course not. Do you blame them for trying to save England from the Globalists? Far sighted people on both sides of the Channel and the Atlantic saw what was coming even back then. You (plural) have all but destroyed us, but you will share our fate. That’s the part you don’t get.
Of course you conflate their patriotic Elite with our Globalist Elite – as if rebellion is the main thing – and not what one is rebelling against. You’re all for Patriotism now – now that you are in control. Jerry Rubin and Abbie Hoffman would understand perfectly of course.
Pulling the old switcheroo, adepts abound in this comment section. Was Hitler in fact the reincarnation of Haman, of Amalek, of Esau? Facts have nothing to do with it. Yes, he was, heh-heh.
Hitler was a mentally ill, short Austrian artists that learned in WW1 to hate the Allies that humiliated his homeland. He was a drug addicted narcissist that acquired power by pulling off early successes inside Germany and the early parts of the war. He scared off the cowards of 1938 with his brazen behavior. He totally believed in himself and would not listen to folks more knowledgeable than he was. That is what eventually destroyed him.
He almost got into a artist’s school after the war, but he could not draw the human form, so he was rejected. Could be part of the problem.
Well you know there is that whole issue of great thinkers being close to almost crazy by nature. It’s something to do with creativity and intellectual capacity that can make one seem insane to those around them. From everything I have read he seemed to be very intelligent with great foresight and he was able to persuade and convince obviously. Brazen? Not sure about you but I like that. Sure there is a time and a place and people make mistakes but I just don’t see him as the evil wicked man that he has been made out to be. They say that history is written by the conquerors. So yeah of course the Allies were totally awesome and correct. And then after we defeated Germany new enemies popped up just like that and the reasons for war continued. By the way, Stalin killed like over a hundred million people but it is always Hitler Hitler Hitler. Why?
Easy SSL
Because he lost. Stalin was a bigger SOB than Hitler was.
Mein Kampf included his plan for the eradication of large parts of European people for the purpose of resettlement by the chosen Germanic peoples.
Sidebar
During the Middle Ages, Christians were not supposed to practice usury, ie the charging of interest with money changing. The Jewish folks had no prohibition against it and became the bankers of Europe. I would imagine Hitler did not appreciate so much fiscal power in that group and did something about it, in his mind. It is what happens when a society becomes too secular and forgets about its morality. Kinda like the US today.
usury, ie the charging of interest with money changing. – JAZ
===========
John, your definition of usury is off a touch. Usury is the practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interest.
Lending money without interest is charity, which is fine in charitable circumstances. I lent my daughter a chunk of money to help pay off her mortgage faster and she paid it back to me without interest. Because she’s family I took the hit in terms of the opportunity cost.
Why would anyone do that for a non-charitable cause?
Muslims have to have special mortgages because they get their knickers in a twist about the perfectly normal fact of opportunity cost as well. Someone’s got to absorb it, in the absence of entirely charitable lending.
I’m not an economist, clearly, but some things are just common sense.
“I’m not an economist, clearly, but some things are just common sense.”
Alba,
I believe that charging interest on a loan is contraindicated by the Islamic religion.
…it does not have to conform with common sense;
In fact, being based on religious edict, it doesn’t have to make sense at all….
I don’t think we’re disagreeing on that, are we, EF? I was pretty much saying their view defies common sense.
One of the few occasions I agree with Green Alba. Nobody’s going to lend money at zero interest… well, at least not in a sane world. It appears money is being lent out now at not only zero interest rates but at negative interest rates. Sum ting wong.
SSL on Hitler:
“… people make mistakes but I just don’t see him as the evil wicked man that he has been made out to be.”
Wow. You’ve really been scoffing Janos’ Kool-AId, huh.
“One of the few occasions I agree with Green Alba. ”
Gawd, Tate, I hope a puppy didn’t die somewhere. 🙂
Was he mentally ill? That’s ‘problematic.’ “Hitler” is whoever you want him to be. “Hitler” is a projection of the zeitgeist. What scares the Tribe is that “Hitler” could be your next-door neighbor. Hitler is just the expression of what’s “bad for the Jews.”
JohnAZ,
Yes Christians were above money grubbing so they left this dirty practice to the low level Jews. It was a low status job meant for the peasants. Money was dirty, so let the dirty Jews handle it. Dirty money, dirty Jews. All in the same.
This ended up backfiring as over time, Jews became really good with money.
Yes, exactly. Whoever controls the banks controls everything. Our problem is that we participate in the dirty system and thus allow ourselves to be controlled in this way. Germany tried to get out from under the thumb of the international bankers and abracadabra WWII. Removing the international bankers from power and dismantling the international financial system is necessary to regaining our freedom as a distinct people. As it is their agenda is dependent upon our defeat.
“Money was dirty, so let the dirty Jews handle it. ”
Some would say typical Christian hypocrisy.
And the Jews were barred from other occupations, by those same hypocritical Christians, so they had fewer options.
And the biggest hypocrisy of all (unless they were just completely devoid of brain cells) was that the reason they hated the Jews was because the Jews, according to the myth, killed Christ. And yet if Christ hadn’t been killed there wouldn’t be such a thing as Christianity. No cross, no sacrifice, no redemption.
Stupidity or hypocrisy? Maybe both.
“Money was dirty, so let the dirty Jews handle it. ”
So in a society where they just used conch shells as a medium of exchange, were conch shells dirty?
Humans are strange creatures.
“Of course not. Do you blame them for trying to save England from the Globalists? Far sighted people on both sides of the Channel and the Atlantic saw what was coming even back then. “
Utter nonsense, Janos. The reason the aristos welcomed the fascists was because old money was beginning to be replaced by new and they felt threatened. They were interested in keeping their status – they didn’t give a flying f**k about ‘saving England’, except for the kind of England (and Empire) that benefited them. Not that there weren’t aspiring fascists up and down society.
Viscount Rothermere was cheering them on in the Daily Mail:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-exqe4yL4CrU/We4QYJWjiZI/AAAAAAAABwQ/0Vswn19zZ9orUxTOUDE9iS8hyiKLr6uUwCLcBGAs/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/Rothermere%2B-%2BHurrah%2Bfor%2Bthe%2BBlackshirts%2521.jpg
GA
Just a question.
The Royals are from German ancestry from way back. In WW1&2, any feeling of conflict of interests?
JAZ
Well, Edward VIII and his American missus were major fans of Hitler, weren’t they? But he was sent off to the Bahamas when his Nazi sympathies were suspected, where he could do no harm.
We have to remember that ‘German’ and ‘Nazi’ weren’t synonymous, of course, so just having German ancestry didn’t make anyone necessarily pro-Nazi. Hitler wasn’t to everyone’s taste in the German aristocracy either – or indeed in the armed forces.
But I think it was difficult for some of Queen Victoria’s descendants to find themselves on opposing sides, especially for the first war. But they were in different countries and remained loyal to those, as far as I know.
And the Windsors had chosen to be Windsors, rather than the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, specifically because their German ancestry irked people during WWI.
Why nonsense? Old money has always been threatened by new money. Was it any different before WWII? Throughout the 19th century? The answer is no, they saw something different.
I have read that after WWI the old money lost so many of its heirs that there was actually a power shift because of lack of those to continue the lines. I shall have to revisit that and see if there is more of interest there.
The British aristocracy was threatened by the process of collapse of a rigid class system beginning after the first world war and saw fascism as a way of reinstating and/or maintaining that class system. The class system in the UK was in no real danger before that time.
Weren’t they already being ruined by property taxes as per the show Downton Abbey?
You turned against your own best people! Of course they sided with those who admired them. And no man admired the British Aristocracy more than Hitler. Churchill despised his own Class and Nation – eager to create a place in the New Order. Smart? Sure. Admirable? You have to ask?
“You turned against your own best people! ”
You mean the inbreds that Volodya talks about? Mostly you’re talking about the descendants of the Norman robber barons.
Utter nonsense, Janos. The reason the aristos welcomed the fascists was because old money was beginning to be replaced by new and they felt threatened. == GreenAlba
You nailed it, GreenAlba!
British, opposite to Americans, very well knew what Hitler was, but after the war they made a deal with the devil, being threatened by mighty American businesses that have not experienced the difficulties of the war on their territory.
They allowed the Nazi Bormann money to be legalized in their transnational corporations, which eventually lead to the erosion of the British society.
Taxes!
Bernie and Liz are going to tax the hell out of the rich and are going to give that capital to all of us middle class folks in the form of forgiven loans and free healthcare.
People, you are not that stupid.
The Elite are going to hire lawyers and get out of the taxes, or they are going to be ex patriots. You, the middle class, are going to pay those taxes or the deficit will just be added to the Debt.
These Democratic jerks are bullshitting all of us to get into power period. Do not be a sucker.
Is anybody so naïve, so stupid JohnAZ that they really think that those who rule ever pay even close to their “fair share” or even any share at all? Does any one believe that anything could ever force them to pay for the system that they already and totally own and control? Sure they have to divert some of the take to pay for those that keep the serfs in line and prevent uprisings, but certainly they have the power and the control to take all that they want and more.
Even in times where uprising can be manufactured to take down small groups of the uber-wealthy elite, power is always returned to where it gravitates to and that is the greedy bastards at the top.
Many call Faith a dream, a lie, or a great manipulation, but I assure you all that there can be no peace and no true value or gain playing in the system that those who here rule set up for us. Work the system while you can, do not fall for the carrot on the stick and find true peace and value where it really and where it always was.
And
Never ever vote for a Liberal that is trying to take away even more from all of us.
Tax the rich my butt!
>>> People, you are not that stupid.
Do you how they first sold income tax? Yep—we’ll tax the rich! And they did. And then they taxed everyone…
Sadly, people are that stupid.
JohnAZ
The key impost tat is being proposed if 1/10th of a penny on every dollar of speculative financial transactions – i.e. Wall Street. That’s an exquisitely tiny amount on any transaction and is significantly less than the brokerage (commission for being the ‘bag man’) the transactor is charged. This is not uncommon – in 2011 there were 40 countries that made use of FTT, together raising $38 billion. If these ‘elites’ want to participate in the market, then even being an ex-pat won’t allow them to escape such a tax. Of course, given historical experience in the US, they would lobby hard for favorable ‘exemptions’ and given the blatant corruption in Washington DC, they’d possibly succeed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_transaction_tax
Capital gains are already taxed. It’s 15% for most, and 20% for the big dogs. The brokers who live off the transaction fees pay income tax at even higher rates. Everyone is already being taxed, and at a greater rate than the traditional “tithe” of yore.
What you want is yet another tax on top of existing taxes. You basically want to plunder wealth. All this does is encourage investors to go elsewhere.
Exactly where would they (you & me?) go?
Also, you don’t understand how the FTT system works. In other jurisdictions, there’s a quid pro quo with an offsetting in personal income tax on the lower 50% (or so) of withholding tax payers (probably you), which would surely be welcomed?
Much of the ‘Capital gains’ in the US is A DISGUISE for what most other places would call income, through the ‘carried interest’ rort.
I’ve suggested it before, but go read any of David Cat Johnston’s trilogy:
‘Perfectly Legal’
‘Free Lunch’ and
‘The Fine Print’ if you want to understand just how colander-like the US Tax Code is for those earning over $250,000. It’s an embarrassing joke, especially when you get to the ACTUALLY WEALTHY.
>>> Much of the ‘Capital gains’ in the US is A DISGUISE for what most other places would call income
No doubt the wealthy can live entirely off capital gains. So what? They’re still investing their excess wealth and taking risk. It’s nothing like a steady paycheck.
You either understand the value of such capital or not. You either want to encourage people to invest or not. You don’t encourage it by plundering it for your social welfare agenda.
Based on your defense of the wealthy & their ability to disguise actual income as ‘capital gains’ (& pay half the proper rate of tax on it), I’m guessing you’re in the 99% percentile (top1%) end of the income spectrum, right?
Now, that’s a household income of $421,000 (outside of Connecticut, where it rises to $700,000).
At the $421,000, you’d be paying approx. $137,000, an average of 32.5%.
in the 2012 election, Mitt Romney’s (very limited) tax information relief showed he paid 14.3%. Aren’t you aggrieved that you don’t have the same opportunities to screw the system over, or do you APPLAUD a multi-billionaire who minimizes taxes as ‘smart’? Even though he made an obscene fortune off the GM bailaout in 2008/09 AND shipped thousands of jobs offshore once he’d (Bain Capital) collected his ‘bounty’?
I just don’t get why you people vote so stunningly against your own best interests!
>>> Based on your defense of the wealthy & their ability to disguise actual income as ‘capital gains’
There’s no “disguise” or anything sinister or illegal. Our tax laws are designed to encourage investment. Do you not see the social benefits of getting those with wealth to willingly invest it and not hoard it or use black markets? How do you think people get loans for cars and homes and to start their own businesses? How do you think corporations get loans to innovate and grow? Has no one ever explained this to you at school? So sad. So sad you were taught nothing but eat-the-rich and hate-whitey…
Tens of millions of average Americans invest their wealth. They will live off that when they retire. Sinister?
>>> in the 2012 election, Mitt Romney’s (very limited) tax information relief showed he paid 14.3%. Aren’t you aggrieved
No—assuming it’s legit. If Romney invested his wealth and incurred losses, then he would likely pay less than the expected 15% for capital gains.
Romney is a job creator. How many jobs have you created? All you know how to do is raid and plunder wealth. You have no idea how to create it.
>>> I just don’t get why you people vote so stunningly against your own best interests!
How is it in our best interests to have Lefties take our wealth by force for their favored groups and pet projects? Here’s what happens when idiots and not markets call the shots…
Obama clean energy loans leave taxpayers in $2.2 billion hole
Thanks, Obama!
I said nothing against investment, only that the appropriate level of tax is often avoided by these ‘job-creators’ (that’s a laugh, too).
“Bain’s management of Cambridge Industries was chronicled in a June story in The New York Times, which noted that Bain reaped over $10 million from the plastic manufacturer even as it went through bankruptcy, wiping out some of the other investors. According to a 2008 Detroit Free Press story, which is only available for purchase, Cambridge’s bankruptcy meant more than 1,000 workers lost their jobs.”
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gm-bailed-out-bain-capital-romney-profits_n_2069034
Off topic but I find this graphic of interest
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranking-the-top-100-websites-in-the-world/
Oh Canada’s contribution? No 8. PORNHUB which I think if the site was not blocked in China would be No. 1 above the whole bunch of them. Everyone knows Al Gore invented the internet. The internet was invented for PORN. I saw it on the news.
Russian footprint in Epstein’s “suicide”
The scandal surrounding Epstein continues to gain momentum and now its size is beginning to conform to my hypothesis that Epstein’s arrest is a rein that Trump threw over the US intelligence community after it organized a series of sabotages in Russia, including the fire on Losharik, which was an assassination attempt on Vladimir Putin.
The most interesting thing is that the dead Epstein caused a greater panic in the camp of the Democrats than the living. In any case, the nonsense that the democratic media carry today, trying to link Trump to Epstein, is more delusional than the nonsense of yesterday.
Moreover, this nonsense is chaotic in nature, as if Hillary hadn’t sent regular directives to the media today, and every TV presenter, following yesterday’s directives, corrects them in connection with the newly discovered circumstances to the best of his wits.
With one exception, yesterday’s Joe Scarborough tweeted that the Russians were behind Epstein’s death.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/joe-scarborough-epsteins-suicide-is-russian
It seems that this tweet was not another provocation on the topic “Russians are always to blame for everything,” and that Joe accidentally heard something not intended for the ears of propagandists and let slip, and now the propaganda machine is carefully erasing the consequences of his slip.
Joe Scarborough never hid the fact that by virtue of his marriage to the daughter of Zbigniew Brzezinski, he was admitted to narrower circles than the rest of his ilk, but in this case he was clearly frightened and was trying in every possible way to belittle the significance of this circumstance.
https://twitter.com/TPMLiveWire/status/1160930815037124609
And all this makes me assume that reports that Epstein is alive and well, but that he was transferred to a witness protection program, after staging his suicide, is the most likely explanation for objective reality, including the dead Epstein’s ability to cause more panic among democrats, than Epstein alive.
But then the videos that I initially took humorously began to disappear from YouTube, including the video about the aforementioned tweet of Joe Scarborough.
And yesterday, weighed down by thoughts about the reasons for the disappearance of several videos that I listened to the day before yesterday, including the video that Joe Scarborough’s wife, Mika Brzezinski, at the suggestion of her mother, the granddaughter of the Czechoslovak President Benes, became a member of one of the ritual satanic masses, I turn on the TV and stumble upon Andrei Malakhov (37:25), who, in connection with the July 27 killing of a Russian girl who apparently participated in Epstein’s events, announces the performance of a famous Russian pimp, whose name was mentioned not only quite officially in the case of Mikhail Prokhorov’s arrest related to the provision of pimp services to high-ranking pedophiles in Courchevel, but also in the disappeared video, where it was described as a supplier of live goods for Epstein, and, as I understand it, girls from Russia in these masses were going through tests much worse than Mika Brzezinski, and it was the video of these tests that were found on the computer of Huma Abedin by FBI agents, after being presented to the FBI Director Comey, that forced the latter to resume the Hillary Clinton case ten days before the 2016 election, which actually determined their result, according to the aforementioned Bastinda, great and terrible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEhhenaIwm8
Brzezinski,- that monster.
I’m still waiting for AOC to blame Epstein’s death on climate change.
She did: Trump + Russians = Climate Change in World Politics.
Name something ‘climate change’ isn’t responsible for.
REPATHA THE HEART MED
I saw a TV or you tube commercial for Repatha, a useless and ineffective drug for treating high cholesterol.
The ad shows a fat-bellied dad, a land whale,[with a padded shirt?]
at a wedding, bellying up to the buffet table to increase his girth,
telling us about how he takes Repatha.
the wedding of his mudshark daughter.
I know the commercial you mean. I was so nonplussed by the coal burning that I didn’t notice what the drug was.
It’s real function is to turn men into fat cucks who give their daughters to Negroes.
fat cucks who give their daughters to Negroes – Janos
============
Google Negro. It will tell you the term is Dated and Offensive.
Like I said yesterday, for the next little while we are stuck with People of Color.
Repatha opens the heart. Helps you to say POC and not the other offensive terms I like to say. I need Repatha!
If only I could be Alba and Elrond’s agent! I’d have them in a commercial with Alba doing the talking and Elrond just doing that special smile that pc males do. The scene would be at their daughter’s wedding to a Black. She’d say how Elrond had trouble accepting it until he started on Repatha. If Elrond isn’t fat enough he can wear a fat suit. We could make so much money together but they rebuff me at every turn!
Some dipstick came to our front door back in the 60s and, in the course of pushing whatever he was pushing, said to my mother, ‘but would you want your daughter to marry a black man?’.
My mother was a simple soul, a dyed-in-the-wool conservative and the antithesis of ‘wokeness’, but she simply answered that there were a whole lot of white men she wouldn’t want her daughter to marry.
Seems as sensible an answer now as it was then.
Your mother knew not to stir up controversy. Also, not to get drawn in by a flim-flam man selling encyclopedia sets. Britannica? Thus, she put up a stiff resistance to the cheeky whelp. Also, she probably secretly feared that you might indeed marry a black man, hence her avoidance of a direct answer.
Tate
You persist in being led by your ideological nose.
The guy wasn’t selling anything other than political ideology. Racism, that is.
And I wasn’t there – my mother told me afterwards.
Also there was no controversy to avoid. There wasn’t anyone else there except her Christian conscience, which didn’t include racism as its bedrock.
You have no idea what my mother ‘probably’ thought because she was the antithesis of everything you stand for.
Phew! The situation is heating up in Hong Kong.
I think a crackdown will be coming soon.
The trick for Xi is to turn the screws on Hong Kong without any iconic, embarrasing photos like a lone protester standing in front of a tank from leaking out, which would be bad for Brand China. Expect the PLA to be more discreet this time, and to better control the flow of information, if that’s possible in this age of smartphones.
Brh
And now, kids, is time for your homework!
I want you all tonight rent a movie “Eyes Wide Shut” and watch that probably best piece of cinematography in the last 30 years.
Tomorrow, you’ll have to take a test on your comprehending of current events based on that movie, specifically answer the question:
What was the profession in “real life” of the leader of the lodge presented in Stanley Kubrick’s masterpiece?
One of the Clintons?
So its come out now that that there was ‘screaming and shrieking’ coming from Epstein’s cell the morning of his death:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-death-shrieking-heard-jail-cell-morning-he-died-metropolitan-correctional-center/
..and also there were 2 people responsible for Epstein that AM. One correctional officer who was filling in for another, and a “non-correctional officer”
?? WTF
you can not simply for a federal facility without an enormous amount of vetting, particularly any secured federal base/prison, etc. No way. So who is the 2nd person, a hitman??
*you can not simply work for* .. correction there
Metropolitan is federal?
yep, its overseen by the Bureau of Prisons.
Thanks! Somebody got some ‘splainin’ to do
NEW HAMPSHIRE
Bernie Sanders: 21%
Joe Biden: 15%
Elizabeth Warren: 12%
Pete Buttigieg: 8%
Kamala Harris: 7%
Little Jane
Breadline Bernie’s got the ‘Keeper of the Crypt’ contest sewed up,
The one qualification is you have to be born in the 1930s.
The 1930s for krissake!
Old Sleepy Joe doesn’t make the cut.
Brh
Sleepy Joe will be in “a place for dad” before the election rolls around!
Bernie Sanders is the only candidate who beats Trump by 8 points in a one on one general election race. That is well outside the margin of error. Trump, having started a trade war which has hit us consumers hard with the Trump tax. China is determined to win this trade war and we will be the ones to pay the Trump trade tax.
It will probably be another interesting election.
I am not hit hard by anything from China. I don’t believe or hear from anybody from my neighbors, or even my state that China is hitting anybody hard.
? maybe. We’ll see.
What about those farmers? Know where the $15 Billion bailout came from? Hint: it wasn’t China paying, just like Mexico never paid a prso for the wall that never got built. We have Obama’s fence.
Iowa Farmers Stick With Trump Despite Trade War
In any case, I don’t think Iowa farmers are calling the shots as far as Trump is concerned. He’s not going to lose his primary, and they’re not going to vote for someone who supports taxpayer-funded healthcare for illegals. Double-dealing flip-flopper Sanders is desperately trying to claim he’s against open borders, yet he promises open borders in all but name.
Not yet, anyway. even Trump accidentally admitted, yesterday, that the tariffs DO affect American consumers.
Sure they will. Eventually. As a nation we’re addicted to cheap imports, all made possible by cheap labor and unequal labor laws.
Since when is breaking an addiction painless?
As someone who constantly professes to be a world citizen helping the plight of the unfortunate and so on, I’m amazed you want to perpetuate a system that encourages child labor, slave labor, unsafe working conditions, etc.
CFNers, you need to quit posting about you know who! I’ve polished off nearly a pint of Wild Turkey, shot after shot; I’m under the table typing this … send help!
Brh
“I’ve polished off nearly a pint of Wild Turkey”
lightweight 🙂
That’s what I thought. A pint? shit what is it noon time?
This is 108 proof, top shelf,
Not the 80 proof, which is for wusses.
I’ve heard that Hitler was a crack shot with a Mosin-Nagant until he was a runner and got wounded.
Rip you have no mercy.
The warden, Lamine N’ Diaye, and two guards are being removed.
Somalian? Senegalese? WTF!
Bechufuckinanaland?
maybe he was the second “non-correctional officer” at the time of Epstein’s death.
I wouldn’t be shocked by that, LOL
Teenage girls go to remote part of Moroccan Mountains (much like where the two female hikers were raped and murdered) to build a ROAD – the dream of all teenage girls. They’re just as tough as any man after all. Like any teenage girls might in the summer, they began to build the ROAD dressed in shorts.
https://www.rt.com/news/466230-belgian-girls-morocco-beheading-threats/
One government official, without overtly sympathizing with the Threats, said, Since when do European Construction Workers work in shorts? What utter foolishness on all levels. Apparently most of the girls are still there. What kind of parents would approve something like this?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1475855/off-grid-parents-whose-child-weed-live-on-this-morning-beg-strangers-for-100k-to-fund-their-hippy-lifestyle/
those type of ppl
Pete
Reminds me of Paul Theroux’s book ‘Mosquito Coast’
Another (fictional) family who traveled to C America in search of utopia. It never ends up good, in the case of the family you site most likely Gringos chopped up by natives and fed to the crocs.
Brh
You got to feel sorry for those little ones tho.
They’ve never been vaccinated, and the parents want to bring them to live in a disease infested jungle.
Brh
yep
watched a related vid there about another family of “free range” kids.. the mom is completely disinterested about her unschooled kids learning anything whatsoever.. algebra.. who needs it? all the history of the world.. for what? … Fitzgerald, Hemingway.. why wouldya wanna read that?
LOL
Here’s a reasonably long ‘town hall’ style interview with Marianne Williamson. Say what you like and poo-poo her crappy poll numbers, she has some seriously good things to say, for those who will bother hearing her.
Okay, all you sad, angry, twisted right-wing haters…have at it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz767MmCKqc
Angry, twisted left wingers have it in for her too.
She’s making other Dem candidates look bad, and that can’t stand.
Bth
They do not need any help at all looking bad.
Majella
I think your Right wingers you are addressing are all united in one objective, to block the oncoming rush of neo liberal takeover that is happening in the country being supported by international forces, and the decline of moral compass that the country is experiencing. If Williamson would renounce the Liberal nuts that have almost taken over, she would be listened to. I believe from listening to her in the debates she does not like the underhanded Progressives any more than we, the Right side, do. This should be interesting this next year.
JohnAZ
First, apologies for ‘Okay, all you sad, angry, twisted right-wing haters…have at it!’ which was intended to be tongue-in-cheek but came across as plain wankerish.
As to this perceived onslaught against all you et al hold dear, in my view, you’re worried about a paper tiger. There’s a vociferous but ultimately tiny group making a lot of noise, but the electorate won’t fall for the extremists.
There really are common-sense, not-deluded people in the Centre and left of centre who support an agenda that is NOT ‘radical’ but would bring the US into a fairer place. M4A, low cost (if not costless) tertiary education and a tax system that doesn’t soak the poorer 95% of the population while enabling the richest to get every more obscenely wealthy – these are really NOT radical policies and poll after poll shows these policies have become mainstream. 2020 will tell the tale.
Majella
Here is the problem in a nutshell.
There is no money for all the projects. This country is built on a house of cards of phony finances. I think our financial sector I’d currently over 40% of the GDP. That is insane. The Dems are buying votes. None of the big ideas are going to happen. Obama got O care through, and it has been weeping dollars ever since. So take all the promises both sides are talking about and put them on the shelf. There is no money to pay for anything new.
The debt is the big problem. The Boomers are retiring. SS is going to be strapped for awhile. Pensions are underfunded. These are two huge repositories of the National Debt, otherwise known as the bond market. Look at the bond yields. The Fed cannot keep the yields up. Bonds cost more as a consequence. Pretty soon, Boomers are going to start cashing in bonds, pensions are going to cash in bonds, SS is going to start cashing in bonds, etc. The creditor nation is going to erupt.
And there is no wealth to back anything up, as we have been generating phony baloney money without wealth backup for three generations now.
So whatever is being promised by the Left or Right, it is phony. If you want to buy their BS, have at it. I am counting on no help.
JAZ,
>>> Here is the problem in a nutshell. There is no money for all the projects.
All the more reason to stop corporate welfare and tax giveaways to the wealthy, no? Maybe it’s time for some serious trimming of the MICC military budget, as I don’t see much good that it does. Maybe we could funnel that money into M4A and shoring-up SS? It is certainly better than sending it down the rat hole, it’s current destination.
Maybe it’s time to stop private profits and socialized losses? I am ALL for private profits…. it’s the socialized loses I have a problem with. And no, it was not Obama, who gave $700 Billion to bail out Wall $t, that was GW Bush, he, who also gave us the endless wars on terrorism along with help from the Dems, no doubt.
The conservative track record indicates that their policies are not a panacea for us anymore than the lefts. Also, it is really hard to argue for a “moral compass” with a popular right-wing leader like GGG, is it not? He never was a choirboy, you’ll have to agree, and he has been a divisive SOB, no?
Look at this and tell me in what ways he’s wrong:
https://youtu.be/q0dQAUb22WA
Does she believe in healthcare for undocumented immigrants, also called illegals? Like the rest of the nuts? if so she’s a nut just like them and just like you.
If so, that would be in addition to the 500 billion in reparations she wants Whites to give Blacks. As if that would be the end of it and they wouldn’t be back for more in no time.
Ah – there you go, you nasty little fascist. GFY!
No it is a valid point. She does want reparations for Blacks which whether you agree with that or not will be a very costly endeavor. Therefore it is very pertinent to wonder if she will also provide free healthcare for illegals because that is another bank breaking proposition.
Janos – Who gives a shit? She has no chance of getting elected. I suggested the video because she actually makes a lot of sense. She’s not a corporate shill like Biden & Harris or Trump, is all.
Janos,
I suppose it’s better to let the illegals get sick as dogs as they wash our dishes, cook our food, watch our kids, clean our houses and work in our nursing homes? Is that what you prefer? How about all the money the illegals pour into social security (upwards of $13 Billion per year) with ZERO benefits and sales taxes. What about all the “stuff” they buy from American companies.
If the republicans core constituency, the wealthy and corporate America, wanted illegal immigration stopped, it would have been stopped decades ago. Face it, the Right is simply playing the “base” for fools. They have been talking this “immigration is bad” hog wash for decades now, but SOMEHOW, they can’t seem to get it done, even when they control all the levers of government as in GGG’s first two years.
I might also note, as an aside, that they sing the same tune about the federal debt, since Reagan’s time, and… well you know the scam there. We hate the debt, but, BUT somehow when the Repubs are in power, it only grows astronomically. I know, strange, but true…
We really, REALLY want to stop illegal immigration AND reduce the debt, but funny how it only gets worse. Go figure? No. don’t figure! Stop being such complete suckers, as you’ve been had! Besides, the immigration and debt horses left the barn a long time ago. Stop all of the immigration, legal or otherwise, and it is still not going to be a majority white country in a few short years, nor is the debt EVER going to be repaid. GET OVER IT, for your own and try to wise up.
So it’s too late? Ok, tell me this: When it wasn’t too late, where you in favor of trying to save Traditional America? Or did you deny there was even was an immigration problem (both legal and illegal)? Or did you secretly know, but pretended you didn’t – because you hated America? Which is it Hynes?
Many went from denying there was a problem straight to “It’s too late” – without ever having a stage in the middle. Needless to say, such people are fools or worse.
Janos,
Actually, 25 – 35 years ago, I didn’t think much about immigration either way. I was busy trying to make as much money as I could. It didn’t seem germane at the time, but I was probably remiss. For the record, I wish only the best for America and her citizens.
Tell me something if they are illegal they do not have a Social security number ergo they are not paying taxes nor are the putting into the SS system and if they do and are they have stolen someone SS number and are causing that person huge issues.
How do semi intelligent people continue to pander these lies much less believe them?
Further we are to believe the amount if ILLEGAL aliens has not grown from the 10-20 million number in the last thirty years?
Hog wash we have at least 40 million ILLEGALs running all over the land!
They use power, water, streets, food, housing and all the other assorted things that it takes to live in America what if those 40 million were not here?
How would that affect the price of EVERYTHING they are no longer using and straining.
Don’t you claim these ‘illegals’ vote (multi-vote, even) in droves?
How can they register to vote without being citizens?
I suspect that the US governance model in which the media and the US electorate are responsible for holding the “Leadership” accountable may have gone terribly awry when they reinvented themselves not as watchdogs over authority, but rather as advocates for various Social Justice Warrior causes, so that now they are not guardians of truth and honest governance, but rather cheerleaders and advocates of often underhanded, dishonest Saul Alinsky “Any Means Neceassary” tactics, such that governance now consists of rackets and is generally a cesspool. Once the society starts trying to purge mainstream “White” Western Civilization and starts advocating for LGBTQ Hedonism and pedophilia, it’s probably game over?
Why is it that Bill Clinton flew 26 times on Epstein’s Lolita Express and was a frequenter of Epstein’s bizarre pedophile sex Temple and that this is not a problem for the media or for people generally? Something is very, very wrong with this society. At least, Hy Tyler had won the Iron Cross twice for bravery. What about our “Leaders”? Look at these people! Something is very wrong.
you sad, angry, twisted right-wing haters…have at it! == Majella
Low-rating CNN Chris “Fredo” Cuomo goes ballistic:
Fredo! Fredo!! Fredo!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hnRtV5PJnY
‘Fredo-Gate’ Blows Up In Social Media After CNN Chris Cuomo’s Rant Over Heckler’s Comment
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/08/13/fredo-cnn-chris-cuomo-rant/
Cuomo acts very thin skinned and insecure
I think that Hy Tyler was awarded the Iron Cross (Second Class) twice as a stretcher bearer carrying wounded men off the battlefield under heavy enemy fire during WWI. I wonder if Bill Clinton or any of our “Leaders” would do that? Pete Buttigieg got sent to Afghanistan for 6 months and appears to have been interrogating prisoners at a black site at Bahgram Airbase. Pete speaks Farsi. Pete seems to have gotten-the-Hell outta there as soon as possible to return stateside and promptly changed his enlistment status so that that wouldn’t happen again. Pete says that the biggest lesson that he learned in Afghanistan is the importance of trusting your life in the hands of an LGBTQ Transgender soldier. They’re all insane….
Whoopi Goldberg wants to kill all of the White People. Why do they call her “Whoopi”? Would you name your kid “Whoopi”? Doesn’t “Whoopi” refer to the act of “Making Whoopi”? They’re all insane….
“Whoopi Cushion”?
She did what? She stopped campaigning for two weeks. Tulsi Gabbard has just one qualifying poll. She needs three more polls and the commander in chief has her doing military exercises for two weeks? Is this a conspiracy against Tulsi?
Ridpatha: the Cure for White Nationalism. Rid the pathology. Since White are the problem, the solution is – obvious!
This is stronger than Repatha. This is a final solution. But one gets you ready for the other. You learn to smile a lot and rub your belly.
bah,
don’t be so craven, Janos
the “whites” or “Caucasians” or “white Caucasians” or whatever..
won’t be distinguished as a race
ha ha
won’t be extinguished as a race
Freudian slip there maybe
ha ha
You’re not exercising your beast enough.
maybe not! lol
The worst example of the Media acting as a Cheerleader for Authority and showing their True Colors is when they turned their backs on fellow journalist Julian Assange. They blamed Assange for sinking Hillary when Assange published emails that amongst others showed Hillary admitting that she has a public persona to fool the voters and a private persona for the corporate donors. They got mad at Assange because Hillary was better for the LGBTQ weirdo’s. It’s almost painful to see the candidates knowingly and willfully promising healthcare, etc. that they have no hope and no intention of delivering.
J. Assange, a journalist? A “publisher” of sorts, perhaps, but certainly not a journalist and hardly a neutral observer at any rate. Journalists, as all writers, are required to write, not simply disseminate. More of a gadfly or muckraker I would say. Some of his early “work” was probably useful, in that it showed evil and dirty deeds committed by the MICC, which can always use some sunlight.
The last several years he seems to have been co-opted by his Russian friends and was decidedly one-sided. Also, his feces smearing at the Ecuadorian embassy didn’t seem like a very nice way to treat one’s hosts, but maybe it simply indicated his mental decline, I don’t know.
The doctor stuck his finger up my butthole yesterday to check my prostate. Holy Jesus! That Gay Thang is definitely not my cup of tea. I don’t know how Pete and Chaz Buttigieg can get off on that? I think that if you were a cabin boy on a Royal Navy ship and some drunken British sailors came at you, you’d probably want to grab their nuts in your hands and crush them to defend yourself? I think that Indian women recommend carrying a small bag of chili powder to rub on their nuts if they’re attacked by Indian or Paki rapists. I guess that you could carry the chili powder in a small plastic bag and then break the bag with your finger nail?
“That Gay Thang is definitely not my cup of tea. I don’t know how Pete and Chaz Buttigieg can get off on that? “
Well if you want the simple anatomical answer to your musings, Pucker, it’s not rocket science. The ano-rectal area is full of sensitive nerve endings. I speak not from personal experience but from medical science.
But it does lead me on to the point I’ve mentioned before, which is that anal sex is extensively practised in the heterosexual community, led by its phenomenal popularity on heterosexual porn sites (again, I am quoting from the literature…). Popularity with men, that is, principally, but in a ‘more blessed to give than to receive’ kinda way).
Now, given that you don’t find it any fun, let’s just surmise that those gals taking it up the jacksie on the interwebz don’t necessarily find it any more fun than you would – in fact let’s consider that (a) they have smaller rectums, (b) they have to deal with larger than normal male members and (c) that I actually heard one such ex-practitioner – or rather ‘recipient’ testify that she had to take incredibly strong painkillers in order to pretend for the cameras that she was enjoying it. (Said painkillers weren’t quite enough for the several anal fissures that she also suffered and had to have mended, of course, all in the cause of satisfactory heterosexual male masturbation).
And finally, it seems that about 30% of homosexual men don’t even like anal sex.
Let’s just settle for the conclusion that it’s not really a ‘Gay Thang’ any more. And that MEN are rather fond of anal sex. Because new thangs (and tighter thangs) get the fellas turned on
I hope that doesn’t make any snowflakes melt. If so, medical publishing wouldn’t be for you.
That’s so gross Alba. Can’t some comments just be left alone without a huge essay about the gory details. And I am sorry but I don’t feel sorry for someone who says something like, “let me go ahead and take some pain pills so I can take all of this in without crying or screaming in pain but I definitely want to get on camera and get paid and all so poor me I suffer so much.”
And somewhere in Louisiana, a snowflake melts.
As it would.
Just as well you didn’t decide to be a doctor or a nurse,SSL. They’d have had to pick you up of the floor. But generally I find that knowledge is better than ignorance and if it stopped people talking nonsense it might be helpful.
I did feel sorry for the girl. She went into ahem…modelling, at 18 and by 19 was a porn actress. The TV programme involved taking three British male porn aficionados to Los Angeles to see what went on behind the scenes. By the end of the programme they’d all decided to eschew further porn use. Which they probably did for about a week.
But this is what I mean about taking advantage of young women (even ones technically of age) before they really know what they’re doing or what the consequences will be. At 27 she just wanted to be like everyone else and have a husband and family. But none of those men who were happy to use her as a prop were interested in having her as a partner. Men can be like that. So, yes, I felt sorry for her. Not everyone in the profession is like her, but she elicited my sympathy. Many of the hard-nosed ones don’t.
You probably shouldn’t read the ‘Illusion of Love’ chapter in Chris Hedges’ ‘Empire of Illusion’. Enough snow has melted in Louisiana.
It’s interesting though, how different people’s moral universes operate.
Some can’t cope with a bit of prosaic human biology but they’re happy to send millions of people of another tribe ‘back’ to a continent they’ve never even been to and know nothing about, with no compunction whatever.
A good Key opens many locks. But a good Lock only opens to one key. A Man wants a blank page to write on – virgin parchment you might say, parchment that has been in locked drawer.
That’s not say other locks or parchment don’t have their uses of course.
You need to download my thoughts and take a long walk around Loch Lomond. Make it a mini-break. You may come back a changed woman.
“A good Key opens many locks. But a good Lock only opens to one key.”
D’you know, if I have to read that bit of revolting hypocrisy from you one more time I might just throw up.
” A Man wants a blank page to write on – virgin parchment you might say, parchment that has been in locked drawer.”
Then he can take his hyper-hypocrisy and f**k right off. Why would I give a flying one what male hypocrisy ‘wants’?
That’s not say other locks or parchment don’t have their uses of course.
Like I said. See above.
“You need to download my thoughts and take a long walk around Loch Lomond. Make it a mini-break. You may come back a changed woman.”
Your thoughts need to be downloaded into a waste-disposal unit where they belong.
Alba,
A bit of a doctor joke to tell your husband;
A guy is getting his yearly physical. The doctor finishes the other tests and then tells the guy to drop his pants and bend over the examining table, as he will now check the patient’s prostate. The doctor tells the patient, ” Don’t worry…getting an erection is not abnormal during this procedure.” The guy thinks a minute and tells the doctor that he’s not getting an erection, and the doctor replies, “yes, but I am”….
Alba,
The doctor joke not appreciated? How about a lawyer (barrister) joke? I will even Anglicize the language for your convenience.
A bloke walks into the local pub, sits himself down at the counter and loudly exclaims “All barristers are arseholes!
The counterman says “OY! Do not use such language in this establishment.”
The bloke replies “Why Not? What are you, a barrister?
“No” the counterman replies “I’m an Arsehole!”
That one is slightly better, EF!
Re the previous one, I recall my husband recounting what was possibly an apocryphal tale that allegedly happened back in the days when young medics could amuse themselves without being struck off as they would today.
A doctor was examining a patient’s prostate, while resting his spare hand on the patient’s shoulder. Then a second medic comes surreptitiously in and places his own hand on the other shoulder…
Doctor humour. Don’t believe it myself 🙂
Too much information.
My comment was intended for Pucker’s personal medical procedure descriptions and analysis.
Thank you Green Alba for the medical perspective. It does appear, that buggering, may not be a gay thang ‘t all, but more of a male, dingly dangly, thang.
It would seem that the principle deciding factor, as far as “enjoyment” goes, would be, who is pitching and who is catching, but I may be wrong, not having had any experience on defense or offense in this particular, peculiar sport.
I think it works both ways to at least some extent, JDH, but I think I’d rather think about something else now. 🙂
Agreed, GA! ?
What do you think about Climate Change?
This bloke says that it’s basically game over in ten years because climate change will result in severe disruption to agricultural.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9MQGRI8N48
“because climate change will result in severe disruption to agricultural.”
And in severe disruption to normal sentence construction, it would seem. 🙂
Aryanism reflects in a modern way the ethos of Paganism. It is a movement and view of the world that is fundamentally anti-materialistic and timeless. It challenges the unnatural and distorted values present in our times. It is a practical alchemy of human matter, of masses and will. National Socialism reached to the Shadow of the European soul that had been repressed over the course of a century of Materialism, Liberalism, Rationalism and Cosmopolitanism. It sought to bring balance back to a world that had been made lop-sided with the inversion of Nature, and of instinct. Here it restores that healthy vitality – that physical exuberance and acceptance of our physical nature – which Christianity suppressed and distorted, to the detriment of the Aryan psyche. Through the manifestation of Aryanism, the race and German culture was given a new path, something which they had hidden inside themselves all the time. They only needed someone to show them this path and to lead them through.
Occultism, as Carl G. Jung understood, strives to represent our suppressed ‘Dark’ side, our instinctive unconscious. Jung tried to understand National Socialism as a modern re-birth of this suppressed ‘Dark’ or instinctive side: a re-birth, in Jung’s words, of Wotanism or Odinism. The truth, however, is that National Socialism represents the wholeness itself – it does not represent just what has become described as the ‘Dark’, ‘Shadow’, instinctive, or unconscious aspect of our Aryan nature simply because this aspect does not, or rather should not, exist by itself. Real Aryanism is the path towards Wholeness. It is both the Light and the Dark, it reflects instinctive nature, both unconscious, and consciousness. It is rational and irrational similarly, both collective and individual. Any attempts to describe Aryanism as an opposite, as one sided, is simply wrong. As such it arose from the depth of the collective racial soul, as it is the answer to the search of that which is perfection.
‘We cannot possibly get beyond our present level of culture unless we receive a powerful impetus from our primitive roots. But we shall receive it only if we go back beyond our cultural level, thus giving the suppressed primitive man in ourselves a chance to develop. … We need some new foundations. We must dig down to the primitive in us, for only out of the conflict between civilised man and the Germanic barbarian will there come what we need: a new experience of god.’
– Carl G. Jung
from blog of the Black Order, Blood, symbol of the Soul
JS: What can I say? They are correct. Christianity alone cannot save us now. Too cut off from nature. Too individualistic. It doesn’t value us in, as, and of Ourselves. It doesn’t value The Blood. The Vampire legends are just this suppressed and demonized Truth: Esta la Vida. It is the Life!
Finca – I’ve been waiting for your take on the nuclear cock-up yesterday in the White Sea (?).
As I understand it, it was most likely a new nuclear propulsion system that went haywire…?
Right now 2 nuclear reactors are on a barge and being towed 4000 miles across the Arctic Ocean. Once on station they will be used to power up oil and natgas mining operations Russia is conducting at the bottom of the sea.
I hope there are no icebergs floating about.
Brh
Yes, I read about that a few weeks back. I’m just curious about the missile test cock-up that resulted in the nuclear accident near Severodvinsk.
There’s been so very little in the ‘news’ about it, so I’m expecting Finca will have more ‘information’ and can relate it back to some medieval-era Machiavellian subterfuge of the Red/White/Black protagonists…
Perhaps it’s where the Glowing Orange protagonists make their entrance in Series Five. 🙂
“It doesn’t value us in, as, and of Ourselves”
What does ‘It doesn’t value us of ourselves’ mean?
If Christianity can’t help you, maybe this could:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oxford-Guide-Plain-English-Martin/dp/0199558507
That Aryan mystic stuff can get mighty wordy.
I understand what you mean when you say that we need something that is from us, about us and for us. Christianity provides a framework but doesn’t address our needs as a people since the principles therein apply to humanity as a whole. We do need something that brings us together again as a real people that doesn’t discount our identity and our history.
Are you happy Alba? Your prophecy has been fulfilled. I did give in.
“I understand what you mean when you say that we need something that is from us, about us and for us. “
Not quite what Monsieur said, but we could write his posts ourselves really, so it doesn’t matter too much at this stage that he has a taste for flowery – and occasionally inappropriate – multi-prepositions that serve no purpose other than literary self-aggrandisement.
I’m not sure why you’d think that your choice would make me happy. If I had to choose between a person of your tender years going with Christianity or obsessive tribalism, I’d go for the Christianity, whether the metaphysical or the non-metaphysical variety.
Seen from the inside or the outside, it seems to me that the aim of metaphysical Christianity is to save your ‘immortal soul’, not to prolong the existence – or superiority – of your particular tribe (which may well be – and clearly is for you – an important aim, but it has no connection with the imperatives of Christianity, as you both seem to be figuring out).
But I suppose it’s something at least that the two of you have finally worked your way to the obvious point that I could have told you years ago – that the two things are largely incompatible – or at the very least largely unrelated.
And I don’t mean that you should remotely feel any shame for being white – I certainly don’t – just that the whole tribal obsession thing doesn’t sit well with your proclaimed religious beliefs. You’re going to have some soul-searching to do as your life proceeds, to figure out which imperative will be manipulated to serve the other, but then soul searching is par for the course for those of us who don’t settle for Cheetos and TV. Good luck.
I think this largely confirms what becomes obvious from a lifetime’s observation – that the kind of Christianity an individual embraces mostly reflects the person they are or were going to be without the Christianity. Kind, gentle Christians would be kind and gentle even if they were not Christians. Harsh, authoritarian Christians would be harsh authoritarians even if they’d never heard of Christianity.
An observation not limited to me.
I still don’t per se see these two perspectives as irreconcilable though. Christianity does provide a good framework but just that there needs to be something else that addresses our tribe directly. I know you don’t support tribalism, but the people who are in power do. They rely on people like you and me not accessing our instincts in this area. That way we remain largely compliant to the devastating policies that they are implementing that will do us all in except for them.