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I never subscribed to the nostrums of Marxism, but old Karl sure had a point when he said, “All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.” Is that exactly where we’re at, or what?
The hologram of capital that was not really there dissolves before our eyes. That capital, you understand, was our notion of how wealthy we used to be, like, five minutes ago. And now the capital, the money, the mojo of modern life is going-going-gone. The hologram was projected by a fantastically hypercomplex hologram machine jerry-rigged with frauds, swindles, and false promises to pay tomorrow for that proverbial hamburger today. The people running it left the robots in charge and went off to frolic with the likes of Jeffrey Epstein, speaking of the profane. Then, the hologram machine broke and the iridescent image just plumb flickered out.
Now, under the shadow of the corona virus, everybody has been sent home to wait and see what happens next, hostages to the flat-screen, where the cable networks show little besides a non-stop real-time horror movie called The End of Your Future. It’s hard to keep morale up when you realize that all the usual conveyer belts of stuff you need to keep going are breaking down. It’s not hard to imagine fights, sure to come, over that dwindling stuff, which we will struggle heroically to allocate because we are really not all bad. Goodness abides, even in that America we managed to so deeply profane. Let’s hope there’s enough of it.
When these convulsions are over, we’ll have to reorganize those real conditions of life very differently in North America. There will still be considerable capital, but not the hocus-pocus Wall Street kind. There will be a lot of places with good-enough soil left – or at least soil that can be nursed back to health – to grow food. There are plenty of well-watered places. We have a marvelous system of navigable rivers, all outfitted with canals connecting them. (The Erie and Champlain Canals that connect the Hudson River estuary to the Great Lakes and the St. Lawrence have been kept in immaculate condition, by some miracle of forethought.) Our ancestors moved most of their stuff that way, and so can we.
We have plenty of human capital: strong backs and agile minds. They just have to be reconditioned off their addictions to canned entertainments, drugs, and the Faustian raptures of techno-narcissism – in other words, we need to get real. Real means recognizing that we’ve crossed over into a new chapter of the human project and that it requires different behavior (the relations with our kind old Karl Marx spoke of.) Mostly that means readjusting our attention back to the people and the place around us, while expecting a whole lot less from distant institutions far away. Gawd knows there is enough to do, if we can get our minds right.
I doubt that the federal government as we know it can survive its own desperate measures to re-ignite the hologram of rehypothecated promises to pay back all the debt gone bad. Its adjunct, the Federal Reserve, is desperately trying to do just that this morning by promising to buy everything and anything that the markets are puking up before the open. If that seems to do the trick, the ecstatic rush may not last very long. I can say no more about that for the moment because I discovered about five minutes ago that the Internet is down here and I’m going to have to go looking for it now somewhere else nearby to put this blog up.
When I realized the web was down, and the phone wasn’t working, I turned on the TV to see if that was out too. It was. The real-time horror movie I mentioned above (the cable news) wasn’t even available, which rather darkened my outlook instantly. Did something blow up out there? I confess, I’ve had intimations lately that I am suddenly living in the prequel to my own World Made by Hand novels, which, for those unacquainted with them, are about the collapse of our economy and modern life with it. Believe me, it’s not especially comforting or satisfying, even to me, who anticipated the now-unfolding situation in great detail. As it happened, the cell phone was working, at least. I made some calls and learned that the world was still up-and-running. In the immortal words of Leon Spinks, the morning has been a bit “freaky-deaky.”
I have relocated to a friend’s house in another part of the village, so I can get this blog up a half hour late. I’ll add an addendum later today….
Update: The Internet came back on here around 2:00p.m. No storm or anything…though it’s snowing now.
By late afternoon, a middling crumble in the equities. Gold and silver are zooming back up. The congressional Democrats are trying to jam one deal-killer after another into the “relief” bill on purpose to make sure the picture gets worse so as to deep-six Mr. Trump. The net effect is more uncertainty and a greater loss of trust in our government’s competence per se. Chuck and Nancy just look like they’re trying out a new, subtler form of sedition. Tomorrow will no doubt bring on more congressional Chinese fire drills. I suppose everyone in the money world thought if there was going to be a rally, it would start today. Wrong, alas…. The beat goes on and the beat-down with it.
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So with Great Depression 2.0 nearly upon us, can we get some ideas of jobs or skills you should start learning to actually have a job or money income coming in?
I have been thinking repair, but a lot of people just would rather buy new Chinese trash.
If you can’t buy Chinese goods, repairing is an option. Learning any skill now might be difficult, though, in quarantine. Maybe watching basic DIY videos to get you started.
Also, getting a ham license might be useful. People will want to communicate, and if our hyper-connectedness goes, that will be important.
Radios, check. License, nope, who cares? FCC ? Just listening will tell ya what’s going on just don’t get caught transmitting.
Not smart enough to pass the Technician’s license, I see.
Golly, hain’t no way weez kin pass dat durn test.
Huh?.. .—-. …- . / –. — – / .- / .-.. .. -.-. . -. … . / — — .-. — -. .-.-.- / .— ..- … – / … .- -.– .. -. –. / -.– — ..- / -.. — -. .—-. – / -. . . -.. / — -. . / – — / .-.. .. … – . -. !
Come on Elmo! Translate for us. (The Google machine can’t do it, as the ‘…’ are not midline, I’m guessing)
It needs spaces between the letters.
I attended a “repair cafe” at my local library last year.
The libraries have been switching from keepers of knowledge to providers of social services and entertainment, but this affair was actually useful, it did pass along knowledge.
The heroes of the event all appeared to be white men, but they are the ones who volunteered, so I guess an exception to PC was in order.
I had an item I could have fixed myself, but lacked the proper tool.
As it turns out, many of the volunteers owned the necessary tool, but hadn’t brought it with them.
Not a problem, they showed me how to do it myself without it.
I believe this was part of a nationwide or even international movement.
Some subjects of “Fix & Repair” have more leverage. The “Rails To Trail program has preserved thousands of miles of railway corridor, some of which runs through food production districts, or nearby manufacturing/warehousing. facilities. Nearly ALL US military bases past & present were served by rail spur to on-base warehousing & shop buildings.
In one of the “Jurassic Park” sequels, taker a look at the rails in the pavement, in the shop building in which the expedition vehicles are being readied. These are still extant Mare Island Shipyard assets.
Fix & Repair of most needed/essential railway corridor can be accomplished by re-commissioned US Army/Guard Railway Transportation Battalion units, as demonstrated in the Ft. Eustis VA template. Private individual & corporate funding will make these existential US railway lines viable & become Famine Hedge requisites as truck food distribution falters.
Simple formula suggests public ownership of the track and right-of way; operators of the rolling stock and personnel are corporate entities. Individuals with foresight and financial ability (be light on your feet) should contact “American Short Line Regional Railroad Association” for information on partnerships and corridor appropriate for this new era rail construction.
A larger view of railway corridor past and present may be obtained from the Mike Walker Publishing spv.co,uk Railway Atlas Map book series with all-time maps of North American Railway corridor. Determining rail corridor into food production districts may be difficult in places where corporate agriculture has obliterated original rights of way, making some lines simply not feasible on original footprint.
First baby step to begin shift to larger rail share of food distribution is a strategic detail: disperse container handling tractors enroute rail mains, enabling container handling at smaller communities and places once having boxcar spurs. Assessing railway track manufacturing facilities like the Bethlehem rolling mill in Steelton PA, essential in the effort. China is not our friend, and we must make our own strategic parts, pieces, pharmaceuticals and photovoltaics. Deal with it.
Christopher Swan in San Francisco has developed template for stand alone economic units, communities off-grid and using renewables to produce power for homes and business, with electricity available for transportation and potable water production. Kitchen Gardens included!
No, China is not our friend.
Virginia short line railroads can apply for grants. I am not sure if the grants are for existing lines or new lines. Check out the Virginia Dept. of Rail and Public Transportation.
ANY worthwhile videos on gardens, water management?
ANY of the regular folks who comment can you do a bi weekly class on how to garden, etc? I work in the emergency dept and they tell me a wave is still coming by end of week. JHK was right, long supply lines, in my inner burb here in western NY we have many small family farm that were replaced, now empty mini malls.
As an inveterate repairer (even when it costs more than buying a replacement – stubborn, me!) of almost anything until chips became ubiquitous, I have noticed that the older an item, from cars & clocks to white goods & plumbing, the more fun is to be had.
Needless to say, modern ‘stuff’ lasts only a fraction of the time almost anything manufactured pre80s which is good because the modern crap is rarely worth fixing.
mending, canning, growing, fixing, cobbling, recycling, sewing, knitting, fishing, building, cutting, hunting,
I was getting to the point where I knew I was going to have to start sewing my own clothing, or at least altering them.
I quickly realized that I’m going to have a hard time. I don’t see well enough for anything other than simple mending.
I’m sorry! that makes it tough..
that’s a great opportunity to trade what you can do with a neighbor or a friend, or with the community.. maybe you can mend things for them, while they sew things for you..
We get old.
Hi Beryl of Oyl,
Could you have cataracts? Mine creeped up on me so gradually, I didn’t notice until I was running around like Mr. Magoo. After a double surgery, my eyes are fantastic. Even though I still need reading glasses, I can do anything I did forty years ago.
Possibly, thanks. I think it’s just me being overdue for an eye appointment, and relying on old reading glasses.
I was about to make an appointment. For weeks. Now my eye doctor isn’t taking appointments.
How do you make money with this though?
time to get creative with the resources you have at hand..
for me I have access to a private apple orchard, just one example.. so I could make & sell cider
I was thinking about that today
or you could process venison into damn good venison sausage & steaks out there..
another example
Money is always made the same way throughout history. There are a few rules to make money.
#1 Buy low & sell high.
#2 Rentier Income stream. [see Hudson]
#3 Never give a sucker an even break. [see W.C. Fields]
#4 There is a sucker born every minute. [see P.T. Barnum]
#5 Utilize Warren Buffett’s Used Cigar Stock Philosophy.
[see Oracle of Omaha]
RW
mending, canning, growing, fixing, cobbling, recycling, sewing, knitting, fishing, building, cutting, hunting
weaving, fiddling
there ya go wpa
I’ll start a bar selling cider and you can stop by and fiddle for everybody 🙂
brewing, distilling
Check. My entire basement is a brewery/distillery. When they shut down the liquor stores, I’ll be in very high demand.
Sharpening. Ever tried cutting with a dull handsaw, scissors, or knife?
Nobody Listened: https://youtu.be/qY1N9o5LYjw
Repair, yes. Where is that online course on how to be a quantum mechanic when I need it? Perhaps I can learn to draw.
Most of the Chinese shit is built is such a way it can’t be repaired and has to be bought new. No China no stuff. Good agricultural land and plenty of it. Really? Without fertilizer American land won’t be able to feed all the American people but without fracking there is no fertilizer.
As far as viruses go, COVID is too much of a wimp to change the game. A virus that is more serious about killing people is needed for a game changer. Bernie had a lot of the right stuff but likely not enough of it because Bernie thought we could do away with fracking and he is wrong about that. Biden and Trump have none of the right stuff at all. That leaves me to free the world from the orange scourge. KDFP.
COVID is a good excuse to put the fan a little closer to the flying dung. Those that control the crisis benefit best. I really think the panic has more to do with Russia sabotaging OPEC, throwing the world’s biggest spanner into the grandest Pnozi ever. Putin is said to have seen an incipient panic in a very unprepared America as a chance to screw us over with emphatic prejudice. Thus I am more inclined to think it was a natural occurrence rather than deliberate.
Plumbing. Everybody will need a plumber at some point whether for upkeep or a new housing start.
Phyllis Schlafly and Lou Dobbs had a love child. It’s name is the queen James Howard Kunstler.
Get yourself a windup AM/FM/Weather radio, Jim. If the power went out, I’d check that first, to see if something really bad happened.
I thought my local ‘net connection flaked out as well for a bit – that would have really put me in a bind.
I’d recommend the really early portables (with simple transistors & uncluttered circuit boards) which always had SW & MW.
These can be run from a 6V bike battery without an adaptor.
FM needs much more power to broadcast and has a much smaller range which might be OK for small communities with an excess of hydro power but SW/MW can reach across the continent or world, weather permitting.
You can kill me if you want, but that’s the only way you’ll pry my salad slicer and my cheese doodles from my cold, dead hands.
LOL are you just saying that to be funny? For some reason I seriously doubt you even own a salad slicer. And I bet you don’t eat cheese doodles either!
SoftStar, never mind developing skills, you desperately need to develop a sense of humour or your lockdown experience is going to be unbearable.
Well I was trying to be funny in my own way but I guess it didn’t come across the way I had hoped. I’ll work on my skills and sense of humor Father.
Who knew the Long Emergency would be a virus and who knew we would all become socialists!
Reality is a simulation and a mental construct and it is about to collapse! It’s just too strange to digest.
mexican flu versus kung flu- Jim was pretty close.
Read World made by Hand. The Long Emergency in that book was started by a pandemic. Socialism never takes off at all, localization starts instead because the government really does not have the capability to take care of the situation.
We cannot even produce enough PPE to protect our health care workers. The GD Congress cannot even produce a plan to re-energize the economy or even to support people out of work.
The Deep State is hopefully dying. I hope they become the victim of the Fourth Turning Crisis going on now. The Crisis is not just the virus, it will continue in the form of a government that does not have a clue what to do. Millennials should be happy in the knowledge that their midlife power base will take over during the ensuing High where the world will be very different.
I used to make a “joke” that Medicare and Social Security will never have the financial issues predicted because our pollution was going to wipe out the elders through cancer and other diseases.
No one is laughing at that “joke” anymore, including me.
“The Deep State is hopefully dying. I hope they become the victim of the Fourth Turning Crisis going on now. ”
There’s a fundamental unfairness in the arrangements we’ve made. Young, poorer, working people have been idled to save the lives of old, richer, non working people (in theory, if it actually works, that is; we do know we’ve tanked the economy) If you thought you heard OK, Boomer, a lot before, expect the defrauded young to get even more vicious, as the bonds we issue to save those older lives burden THEIR future and economy.
In the meantime, there’s an even bigger crisis that isn’t generational. I work for two places that will keep paying me as I work from home, while the place-dependent file for unemployment. I expect to have those positions for at least a year. So this crisis is going to make me better off versus the poorer people who will be fired, just as it’s going to make all those useless bureaucrats at CDC and the Fed and larded throughout the government better off.
There was an article in 2016 about “the protected and the unprotected.” The unprotected just took another blow. Expect trouble.
Right on Doc, on the Boomers. Kids calling it the “Boomer Remover”. Who can blame them?
They’re the ones that’ll have to pay for the party, and they know it. The Boomers timed it just such, that they’ll all be gone when the check comes.
Kids are pissed, because they weren’t even invited – just told, “You have to work hard, sacrifice & pick yourself up by your bootstraps”.
Isn’t the key determinant of being a sociopath, lack of empathy?
So are you a “real” doctor?
I assume not, or you’d be too busy and not sitting behind a keyboard right now.
Doctor of Science. We were fostering better conditions for humanity when medical doctors were doing things like bleeding George Washington to death.
You might investigate whether medical doctors had any positive influence on patients health before the invention of antibiotics.
That’s not to denigrate surgeons, of course. As Taleb points out, those guys’ interventions led to a situation: if you’d been a surgeon long enough, enough of your patients must have survived to keep you in business. Not so the regular medical doctors.
Well my wife is, in Family & Internal Medicine. She puts on her 3M-7500 mask with P100 filters every morning and hopes that she won’t get sick after seeing patients all day long, regardless of the extreme cautions she’s taking… it’s just a bit removed from leeches these days.
and I’d like to imaginethat she is having a positive influence on her patient’s health. At 71 she still does so every day.
What “Science” btw?
@Dr.TomSchmidt – yep, smallpox should still be among us. if not for those durn doctors of medicine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61V6mK5WwJg
Good for your wife. Properly armed with scientific knowledge, like that produced by men like Pasteur and Koch And Lister, doctors can do a lot to prevent bacterial contamination. State of the art is ever-evolving, of course.
I have no doubt that if she is compassionate, caring, and truly believes she is helping patients, then she is actually helping patients, regardless of her treatments. The placebo effect is strong.
Are you familiar with this NEJM story?
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa013259
I wouldn’t have expected a placebo effect in surgery, but there it is.
I agree, but it isn’t the boomers who are responsible for this. It is government and other institutions who have made these draconian decisions. They, of course, are well protected.
A good read – Generation of Sociopaths: How the Baby Boomers Betrayed America, by Bruce Cannon Gibney
Um, what generation are people like Donald Trump and Bill Clinton? For 28 years we’ve had nominal
Boomer Presidents. (Obama might be more of an Xer, but was born during the 46-64 Boom.)
The over-60 crowd has made the call to sacrifice the economy and the freedoms of the young to try to save older lives; recent figures from NYC show the majority of deaths there are in the over-75 age group, while 45-74 comprises the rest. NO ONE under 45 has died from the disease in NYC.
So, no, the boomers aren’t responsible. But the elite running this country, all of whom are late Silents and early Boomers (and old) ARE responsible. I hope they’re right about the course they’ve taken.
Did you really think unregulated capitalism could be the law of the land all the way down? Capitalism as we know it is too inefficient to deal with the existential challenges before us. Capitalism is a jungle law and as it turns out, our rain forest is gone. We have no jungle any more and a more appropriate form of social organization is needed.
Without national health care the social contracts necessary to make a world made by hand work don’t exist. Without social safety nets people can’t be expected to stay home or make any of the other many sacrifices that will be demanded of the American people in the future. Likely the near future.
New reciprocal arrangements must be forged. KDFP.
Social Capitalist, eh? That means closes borders and mono-racial communities for the most part. It takes a People to raise a Village to raised a Child. And the Child is the Father to the Man – and to be a good one needs a Father.
It takes a village to raise a village idiot too, Janos.
RW
Naw the village idiot just shows up and starts insulting people that’s how it has always worked.
Of all the Disasters that could have changed the vector of American life this has to be the easiest one. While I would never say JHK is wrong. His ideas about the weakness of Americas long supply chains. In regards to food supply lines they have proven to be quite strong . here in western New York we have been inconvinced but nothing major. I believe JHK is right about the long supply chains from China. I hope we will start making more of our consumer items here in America like we used to.
But we are only really at the beginning of this episode you know. In other words, you haven’t seen anything yet.
The crowds are not yet mobs.
Exactly, SSL, we are just beginning. Tell me in 6 weeks or 6 months if your store shelves are full, Teddyboy.
I’m in a lock down state. Before long it may be the whole country. Essential workers are allowed out of their homes to go to work. People who work in hospitals, law enforcement, power plants. Maybe they’ll eat and sleep at work to avoid bringing the virus home to the family. But does this include all the food processing plants and slaughterhouses?
Pharmacies are open. Does that mean they will continue to have all the medicines people need?. I would guess not.
Grocery stores are open, but will they be well stocked? Will the inventory be covered with viruses someone inadvertently spread?
When will it be safe to lift home quarantine? Will issuing limitless new money really fill store shelves or just drive up prices?
Many questions yet to be resolved.
Yes, we have a stay at home order here as well. My friend’s husband works for one of the plants here as a planner and they have asked him to basically live at the plant for now until further notice!
If the virus was as virulent as they would have us believe, the supermarket workers in my city would be home sick by now.
Give it some time. And in the meanwhile disinfect all of the packages you bring into your home.
Kind of like the nervous and frightened Donner party before they started eating each other.
Of course they tried to eat their two Indian guides first who were wily enough to escape.
Probably just their projection since the Indians WERE cannibals. The Donner Party did eat their dead though. Maybe that’s what you’re thinking of.
They say Rugby players eat their dead. Less waste that way.
Our biggest problem right now, I think, is governments overstepping their authority and their areas of expertise.
For instance, someone in Pennsylvania, I think it was, decided it would be a good idea to shut down all the truck stops, at the same time truckers were working harder than ever to keep everyone in groceries and other necessities.
Then there is that Cuomo doofus, who by the way intends to be the Democrat’s nominee, who didn’t just ban plastic bags, he put a tax on paper bags, forcing people to bring possibly dirty bags into the supermarket, where the workers are already worried about staying healthy.
I heard New Jersey suspended their bag ban.
Yes, charge people for paper bags. Trees being a renewable resource…but make people use cloth bags.
And the charge goes into state coffers.
Beryl, in my city, it is an illegal or unnamed tax. If it had been on the ballot, as a tax, it would not have passed.
If you are using multi-use bags, don’t forget to wash them.
What do you Beryl wrap you stinking crotch in plastic before you go into stores?
Change your panties first if you are wearing a dress or pants. I’ve never seen a bag yet dirtier than what covers up most people’s naughty bits.
You are a fucking airhead.
You lost me. How did we get from grocery bags to Beryl’s naughty parts?
Whoa! Panty-diving, are we?
Actually Evelyn the cloth bags get dirty really fast and most people don’t think to wash them.
The move from paper to plastic bags was dumb and the move from plastic to you got to bring them was even more dumb.
Instead we should go back to paper bags a renewable resource loved as book covers by school kids the world over.
Plastic as we know it has also changed there are edible types of biodegrading plastic now but instead the progressive idiots put no thought into anything. At least in California that outright ban morphed into an even sturdier 10 cent option that I now see everywhere blowing down the street and wrapping homeless peoples poop in the downtown areas.
Yep they crap in the bag and just leave it where it falls.
The law of unintended consequences is never thought about when Liberal and progressive weenies start pushing their agenda on the rest of us.
National security risks have been sent out for thirty years about offshoring our ability to produce goods. I remember all the idiots saying that we are passing the manufacturing stage and moving on to a service economy.
The “not loyal to the US” corporations are largely responsible for the empty shelves. Here in Arizona, we have empty shelves. Also responsible are the climate change environmentalists who wanted to move “dirty” industries somewhere else. Well folks, you got what is happening coming.
The most complex living organism is being humbled by the simplest form of pseudo-life. All the attributes that “make us human” are blowing up in our face.
What did you expect was going to happen when Reagan started the off-shore scam,come to Washington he brayed let us show you how to move your jobs out of the country and fatten your bottom line, we even changed the tax laws just for you, now park your ill-gotten gains into off-shore accounts and by-pass the tax man.And thus we end up with 74% of GDP coming from the service sector.!!!
Love to see the actual poroof that STARTED under Ronnie.
I suspect you are are off by a factor of Japanese made trinkets just after World War 2.
Yep that ship started in the 50’s and ramped up in the 60’s.
Nice try blaming the gipper.
JohnAZ
“Also responsible are the climate change environmentalists who wanted to move “dirty” industries somewhere else. ”
You made this accusation already, and I responded to it. I’d rather you’d given reasons why my response wasn’t satisfactory than just blithely repeat the accusation.
So…
(1) Please give dates when these climate change environmentalists started this action.
(2) Please explain the mechanism whereby moving a polluting manufacturing plant from a higher-regulation developed economy to a low-regulation, ‘dirtier’ economy lowers CO2 emissions globally.
(3) Please cite as many ‘climate change environmentalists’ as you can explaining that industrial plants need to be transferred to ‘dirty’ economies in order to lower global CO2 emissions.
I’m not saying there are no people who are entirely that dumb, but it would be good to see those citations.
If there aren’t any, I have to say I’m surprised at your rather ‘dirty’ attack on ‘climate change environmentalists’, JohnAZ. There are other more honest criticisms you might wish to level at them.
We destroyed the know-how in adaptive supply chains. During WW2, 10% of US gdp was manufactured in NYC alone. That complex, innovative, interconnected ecosystem was destroyed; the rail yards paved over to put up Trump Place.
It’s doubtful we will rebuild that culture soon. I hope we can.
It is always dangerous to pull shit out of your ass and come here pretending you have a brain. There might be a dog about who will see through your bull. And Teddyboy you are pretending.
Initially the supply chains are strong but after a week things rapidly go to shit. In some places in the country that week is just starting and in other places weakness will not yet show. It has not yet been long enough.
How do I know. Because I read the whole thing.
Catastrophic Shocks Through Complex Socio-Economic Systems: A Pandemic Perspective – David Korowicz ( <– pdf )
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5ba7a97cb91449215ec18448/t/5ba7be67652deafcd6fcec61/1537719912500/Catastrophic-shock-pandemic2.pdf
It should work this time.
I perused the article, but didn’t read it in detail. It seems to me we could divine the effects that will occur just by using logic, although not the specific numbers.
Beryl does it all the time.
How thoughtful of you ladies to use this medium to talk with each other and in such nice and pleasant terms. You raise the level of discourse to a higher level.
Thanks for being there as long as possible, Jim. After that connection is lost, I’ll still have your books.
I was relieved to see that he wasn’t laid up with the virus.
https://www.nola.com/news/coronavirus/article_bdc4e802-6b90-11ea-a747-832e94bc7f56.html
How many weeks were we told that really this was only a concern basically for the elderly and those with “underlying conditions”? And why were we told that?
The article says they don’t know why she died yet.
We were told that because that’s what the statistics showed at the time, but those in charge were also recommending procedures that assumed everyone, young and old, could catch the virus.
That’s true, but it is hard to imagine that she didn’t die from the infection. Especially considering that she was considered to be in good health. They should have told people that really anyone is susceptible to the virus. But they focused so much on telling people that it was mainly an elderly concern and that 80% of cases are mild that I think people still are not really taking it seriously.
I’m taking it about as seriously as I take the flu.
We see younger people thought to be in good health drop dead every day, it just usually doesn’t make national headlines.
Normalcy bias and normie thinking ok. This isn’t the flu.
This isn’t the flu. All the more reason to quit comparing it to the Spanish Influenza.
I agree!
SSL – it is the people who don’t take it seriously who will ultimately be the reason it is serious.
Don’t be so quick to jump on that bandwagon.
SSL, I agree with you, they did focus on the elderly. A lot of people aren’t taking it seriously unfortunately. I live in California and the beach traffic on Saturday was the worst I have ever seen. And you are right, it’s definitely not the flu:(
She worked at a health clinic. It’s likely she got a greater dose (inoculum) of the stuff. A large inoculum can overcome even a healthy young person’s immune system.
This could be the case. I actually heard that as well somewhere but I don’t recall the source at this point.
Better question: how do we know that any of the postmortems alleging death by CV are actually true or not? Or the statistics they allegedly get rolled up into?
Well from that perspective we really don’t know much at all. I mean when you are trusting others for information. But I guess that is all we have to go on until it either hits really close to home or fails to. If it fails to materialize for most people then we will have an answer. And if it hits real close to home then we will have an answer. Its kinda scary because it seems like that is living literally by trial and error!
HIPPA is helpful to those wishing to obfuscate. They can invoke rules of “patient privacy” for purposes of scaring people to death.
Why is patient privacy, which is just a regulation, sacrosanct, while our Constitutional freedoms can be revoked at the whim of a local government official?
I find it interesting, we heard in the MSM about a “health care worker” with the Kung Flu, who returned to NYC, but no worries, this anonymous woman “knows how to self-quarantine”.
But then we hear, by NAME, of some poor guy in Westchester who is extremely sick with the virus, and that is used to lock down everybody and everything within a certain radius.
The woman returning from Iran has disappeared from the media.
I think it is because they wanted to keep the borders open and business going for as long as possible. That is why we are in the position we are in now, or at least it is a big reason.
Trust others for information?
That is why everyone in this country hates everyone else. The coverage of this virus shows what a bunch of conniving aholes the MSM really is. Our political situation, where the government does not even function anymore, is a direct result of all the news sources.
That is a very good observation.
The government doesn’t function because it is run by Republican fools whose only goal is re-election. And because they are beholden to the billionaire class and Wall Street. You have the best government that money can buy.
Democrats are better, but not by much – this is bipartisan corruption and incompetence.
I think you rather overstate the power and influence of the media – government is totally mucking up its coronavirus response despite the glare of media attention – not because of it. And with whom are they conniving?
Maybe we shouldn’t have elections, just a Soviet, who would appoint the head of the Party as Supreme Leader. Comrade.
Brh
@cargill
Here we go again with your gross opinion parading as fact.
You don’t have a clue how American government works.
Yet here you are yet again spewing partisan rhetoric as fact.
GTFO
Even worse you attempt to say the media is not as bad as it is. Clearly stumping for one side or the other and worse the far more inept and corrupt side known as the Democrat party (at least for now) is doing everything they can to ram through pork, green new deal bullshit and things that don’t matter.
Everything is about politics and optics with right now there top candidate being super corrupt, bumbling and demented.
Do yourself a favor and quit proving what most on here already know your an idiot when it comes to American politics.
Oooh … I see my favourite pet troll is back, and he’s so cute when he’s angry, isn’t he?
But he really should have learnt by now that all the abuse in the world is just water of this old duck’s back, and it just makes him look kinda childish.
@cardill
And yet nothing but more nonsense in response.
Whoops who is the troll and more to the point who looks like a fool?
Why of course you do and you know it.
Stop with the chirping BS already.
Your operation sock puppet nonsense is so see through so tell me is the pay check cut directly from OSF?
How many other names do you use and how many other sites do you put false crap on?
SSL,
Reading through comments, your state of fear seems over the top to me.
There are some very good and more balanced articles to read.
I think the state of lockdown is unsustainable and a society-wrecking level event. Worse therefore than the virus.
Very good reports on vitamin C (liposomal and very high and frequent dosing) and melatonin to prevent the cytokine storm.
I could very well be over the top with this issue. But I prefer to air on the side of paranoid when there is a potential pathogen tearing through the populace. The lockdown toll vs the virus toll remains to be seen. I imagine both or devastating. In Italy right now despite the lock down the new cases and deaths just keep rising.
I’ve said the same thing to her for the past three weeks, Sophia
Very good reports on vitamin C (liposomal and very high and frequent dosing) and melatonin to prevent the cytokine storm.
I think you should cite sources when you say such things – unmediated and unsupported “medical” stories need careful handling.
And yes – the economic destruction seems way too disproportionate perhaps, but it is still early days … and any level of mayhem is possible with a brand new coronavirus for which we have no immunity, treatment, or vaccine yet.
A 3% mortality rate for half the population gets you a body count of five million.
IOW, oranges and sunshine
Just like our friend Akfomo said at the outstart.
“Just like our friend Akfomo said at the outstart.”
BRH,
Well, Mofo would also have you keep Kosher…no more shrimp for you!
Last night made a shrimp chow mein with pan fried noodles…Oh Mother!
Is there such a thing as an expert?
Listen to folks that do not talk through their egos! That eliminates just about every “journalist” in the MSM.
I listen to a lot of non mainstream sources. Like Mr. K right here for instance.
Cargill,
At the time I read the articles, I wasn’t knowing I would need them for this blog. It’s a good point, though. But seeing the fear, I thought I would give people a couple of ideas that they can look into for themselves. In China, they are giving IV vitamin C with reportedly good results, and it sure does make sense. Liposomal C is much better absorbed. I know of one woman, not in the best of health, who managed her corona with oral liposomal C but took quite a lot. The article on melatonin I read was quite thorough, but I’d have to really think where I found it. OK, here it is:
https://www.evolutamente.it/covid-19-pneumonia-inflammasomes-the-melatonin-connection/
Something for doubters
https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000007045579/coronavirus-italy-doctors-lombardy-hospitals-video.html
The NYTs? Really?
@…
Some people don’t understamd the times are hyper partisan and part of the faux news problem.
As long as the written word is not political it might be worth reading.
I don’t find the NYT to be excessively partisan (I’m an online subscriber) – but I do find it rather conservative, particularly in the way it bends over backwards to be balanced (so to speak).
I particularly dislike the way it supports Trump – or if not directly supporting him, paints over all the cracks of his lunatic reign … giving him a legitimacy he hasn’t earned and doesn’t deserve.
And they’re pretty quick ti highlight any missteps by the Democrats.
@cartroll
Its all a matter of perspective and your simple response proves your perspective is very flowed.
You appear to be left of Karl Marx.
I recall a crusty old businessman I worked for in the weekends & vacations while in high school.
His view of experts was this:
“Ha! ‘X’ is the unknown quantity and a ‘spurt’ is just a drip under pressure.”
Watching Land O’ Lakes Beth Ford
https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2020/03/19/land-o-lakes-ceo-beth-ford-coronavirus-food-supply.cnn-business/video/playlists/business-coronavirus/
Food supply is good, food distribution is challenging right now. Labor is another issue, as immigrant labor is slowing down. So, will the people becoming unemployed now, become ag workers? We will see.
As the mayor of a small West New Jersey municipality I find myself interacting on almost constant basis either on the phone, by email or Facebook and sometimes even in person with our county and state government staff. I have not found one of us who are running the shows out here that does not believe firmly that this entire facade has not been put in place to provide cover for the inevitable financial/economic collapse. In every community there are people that can take charge and get things done. Right now and for the foreseeable future pretty much all of those people are going to be handcuffed by the procedures that we are all forced to adhere to and by direct interference of our daily operations that those over us have placed upon us.
It is my personal opinion and that of many others that this is all a manufactured cover for the inevitable collapse so that those who are responsible for the destruction of it all can divert the blame to a virus that does not have to worry about being re-elected. Good luck everybody.
Oh and by the way I am hearing more and more about that pesky, dirty “cash” being a problem and taxpayers not being able to make their quarterly tax payments. How do you think these issuees will be resolved? Yup I can’t wait.
Yep. This is the ideal time to push for a totally cashless society. I’d pretty much bank on it. Provided our bank accounts are left standing, of course. I’d say the odds for that are no better than 50/50 at this point.
I hear much the same.
Yes, there is a virus. We have seen other disease scares come and go, depending on the whims of the politicians pushing them.
Ebola was going to kill us all. We saw a major theatrical production of a doctor afflicted with the illness, returning to the US for treatment, wearing a moon suit. My God, this was serious!
Then a couple of overreactive governors decided that maybe, in light of the seriousness of the situation, and the fact that a returning health worker infected with Ebola traipsed all over NYC at his own discretion, some kind of quarantine might be in order.
They detained one nurse at the airport, trying to decide what to do with her.
Boy was she enraged. Cuomo and Christie got smacked down over that one. All of a sudden Ebola became no big deal, Americans were ignorant hysterics for thinking so.
This is in my opinion, coup #3 against the president who threatens the very lucrative rackets of a great number of our now elderly racketeering politicians.
Yep. And when you look at most of the organizations involved, they are global in nature. Same set of Open Society fraudsters making a 3rd attempt.
Yup! I hope and wish that some one out there is already starting an investigation on who really started all of this and who is going to benefit from it. If it is a conspiracy, the guilty parties should by lined up and shot!
Yes, cui bono?
Nightowl,
Which would mean, if you’re right, that the entire set of global govt goons are in on it. Could it be?
Oh it be!
Don’t forget that other disease of the apocalypse, MadCow disease, Beryl
We may eventually get to JHK’s bucolic world made by hand.
But meanwhile, I think the Powers That Be are trying to institute a new authoritarian system along the lines of one world government with one world currency, involving a government-corporate merger.
The private owners of the Federal Reserve and all other private central banks around the world are now creating unlimited money on their computers to buy the world.
How clever of them to crash the system using virus. It provides a way to make paper notes unwanted due to perceived contamination. They can introduce an international digital currency, easily tracked, totally controlled. Gold and silver may be confiscated and outlawed in private hands with a death penalty for hiding any.
These evil bastards always have plausible reasons for instituting tyrannical solutions which accord with their agenda. It’s a pity so many otherwise intelligent people believe their propaganda and go along like brain dead zombies. Witness 9-11
And the Boston Marathon bombing !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A5vfyFyptQ
That attempt to make Americans hate Islam did not go as planned. An unconscious realization that it was a false flag must have caused disinterest from the consequent cognitive dissonance.
The friend being murdered in cold blood by the FBI was more than a hint but by then I already knew for sure. But unlike the Boston Bombing COVID is no false flag. It is the real thing and too bad things can’t go better with it. KDFP
The medical people I have talked to and watched online have zero concerns about the mortality rates from this event. We have an elderly couple that returned from Italy on pretty much the last plane in and are quarantined at home. From their first hand experience in that country I was told that yes the schools were closed down, but everyone followed with party time and large social events and that was how the spread got so bad. Italy also has a much greater percentage of older people than we do with far less medical facilities. The steps America has quickly taken will probably minimize the spread. The economic impact? It will be devastating at home right now.
Not either/or. It can be a real virus having real – albeit totally overblown – effects and still be a government sponsored bio-terror false flag event. We’ll see in time.
There are 2 kinds of false flag. 1) Nobody died, the whole thing was a “hollywood production”. 2) People died, the damage was real, but the wrong people were blamed
Both kinds can be used to further an agenda. I think COVID-19 is #2, very real and deadly. 9-11 and the Boston marathon bombing were also #2 type false flags. Something can be “the real thing” , i.e. deadly; and at the same time a false flag (misdirected blame).
hmuller,
Welcome to the club! It’s always nice to meet fellow members!
I think COVID-19 is #2, very real and deadly. 9-11 and the Boston marathon bombing were also #2 type false flags. Something can be “the real thing” , i.e. deadly; and at the same time a false flag (misdirected blame).
So three questions naturally arise:
1. Who or what is the cause of COVID-19?
2. Who or what caused 9/11?
3. Who or what caused the Boston Bombing?
I know the answers to these questions … I’m just very interested in how you have diverted from the known universe.
Cargill, since I’m living in the looney tunes universe, there is nothing I can say to you which will make a bit of difference. Cheers.
Cargill “knows the answers to those questions.”
Hahahahahahaha!
Please answer such people that card swipe machines are not clean either.
What is the statistical probability of catching the crud from an infected keypad? There are some modes of transmission which would not be effective enough to really worry about I’ll say. Keypads are one of them, in general I’ll say. In general because someone will invent a scenario to show my statement to be totally unreasonable or try to. They could succeed because I know I would be able to do it.
But if I drive into an empty gas station in the middle of the night to buy gas and I swipe a card at the gas pump I am not going to worry about the pump being infected. I’m going to take reasonable precautions and live my life. I am not going obsessive-compulsive and let fear turn me into a crazy germophobe. KDFP
Totally disagree. Anything in public with frequent touching would be a prime cause of spread. Doorknobs, handles, railings, drinking fountains. From the keypad one touches one’s face and other things. A gas pump swipe is actually different than what I am envisioning. I am envisioning the usual keypad at which millions of people buy their coffee and pay for groceries every day. You punch in your pin. You touch everything around. And this type o f touch transmission is by far the most common way to transmit it, not people face to face. It is not truly airborne, but droplet.
In Australia almost all cards are contactless (pay-wave), and a PIN is not required for amounts below the store limit. I can’t remember the last time I had to use my PIN in a public place. We are quite close to being cashless, and using less cards too, with smartphones.
Soon the chip will be implanted on the back of your hand. Rejoice Carguile, your Master is near, nay at the very door!
“with smartphones”
Cargill,
Can the smartphones be used to squash those pesky funnel spiders?
Thanks for checking in, Walt.
The MTA in NYC is going to collapse with no riders but continuing expenses. 20-30% of people will not have the cash to pay property taxes, assuming unemployment goes that high.
Debt jubilee is coming. All those debts were created against reasonable cash flows, now destroyed by TPTB. Try to enforce a mortgage against a house bought 2 months ago, before the 30% asset write down of the last month. That house is now underwater. Either jungle mail as the banks eat the loss, or massive inflation to destroy the value of existing debts. Probably the latter.
Dr, You are assuming the goal here is to help ordinary people – as opposed to creating a world where the bankers own everything. Debt slavery for the masses has always been a prime component of the agenda.
But even if somehow all debt were forgiven, tomorrow the bankers would be busy creating more debt under the new currency.
Absolutely, a reset includes a “haircut” along with heavier chains of increased debt.
I’ve read through reviews of the bailout. The airlines, which spent 46bln buying back stock over he last 10 years, will get much more. They’re trying the same thing as 2008. It might work, for a while.
Eventually, people walk away, or emigrate. In the Byzantine Empire, when usurious debt became oppressive, Islam happened to come along in all the lands of North Africa. People could free themselves from debt by adhering to the new religion, and a whole region, Christian for hundreds of years, was lost forever.
So where do we go that’s beyond the reach of globalist vampires?
The latest proposed bail-outs are money printing to infinity and can only crash the entire system like Zimbabwe or Venezuela.
Dr, You are assuming the goal here is to help ordinary people – as opposed to creating a world where the bankers own everything.
Banks don’t want to own anything … they can’t make any money from a quiet building, a fallow farm, a neglected house, or a stalled car. Such assets are liabilities. They make money by lending money – not be foreclosure.
Debt slavery for the masses has always been a prime component of the agenda.
They are businesses – they have a business model suited to the industry they operate within … not sure that is an “agenda”
In any case, everything that has made you you was based on hard work and debt … by your father, grandfather, and so on. The capacity to access affordable and reliable credit has taken us from the Stone Age to wealthy civilisations.
But some people jump at shadows out of habit.
I must admit Cargill, I didn’t think that a left-winger like yourself loved the banking industry so much. But since you are so well informed and i am such a lunatic, I’ll just excuse myself.
I don’t love banks – they’re a business like many others – and I dispute the fact that they want to own everything, for the reasons I outlined.
They want a factory humming with a successful business, with the owners paying for a line of credit. They don’t want the building.
Who legally owns a business is not my key point. Imagine a restaurant owner who is barely scraping by because he borrowed money from the Soprano’s and the interest payments to them is eating up all his profits. Tony is perfectly happy to let the man’s name sit on the title or deed to the property, so long as he gets to scim off the profits. Banks work much the same way.
Along a similar line, in America the bottom 20% of the population have no net worth. In fact, they are per capita $6,000 in debt. How did they get in debt? Buying farms, businesses, apartment houses, and other income producing assets? Of course not. They were enticed into credit card debt buying consumer products. They spend their lives paying the banks 20% interest per annum and never manage to pay off the debt. This is by design. Yes they are weak and foolish. But banks want debt slaves for life. They can’t own people legally, and they certainly don’t want to take legal possession of poor people’s threadbare crap. They want a never ending income stream.
Poor people pay twice over for every material thing they have. So don’t tell me the banks are the hero’s who enabled them to have stuff and lifted them from the stone age.
And don’t presume to tell me about my family history! I’m 65 and have never taken out a loan or had a credit card. I only keep a debit card to buy stuff online. My immigrant parents and extended family had nothing to begin with and so had to borrow money for mortgages and cars. We are beyond that now. Once you’ve accumulated enough capital, you can become your own bank.
And by the way this is not the time to keep your wealth in fiat money in the bank. The wise will know what I’m saying. I’ve spent the last few years laying up supplies for hard times. And accordingly, I’ve been mocked as a nut case. I’m getting less mockery now, by people who may need a meal one day.
So go ahead, mock away, Cargill. I have accumulated what I need to better weather the storm. And it’s not about keeping myself alive; I’ve lived my life. It’s about helping the young people of my extended family survive what comes.
They spend their lives paying the banks 20% interest per annum and never manage to pay off the debt. This is by design. Yes they are weak and foolish. But banks want debt slaves for life.
We pay off all our credit cards in full every month – we pay no interest at all, and no annual fees. A friend of mine who works for a big national bank says customers like us are referred to as “scabs”. Charming, eh.
Hmuller and many others in your tribe – you people use ‘love’ & ‘hate’ way too much and way too easily when you’re denigrating a dissenting POV. It just takes the power out of the words when you want to use them for REAL emotions.
Maj, it’s just a Manichean kind of world to me.
Doc, “jungle” mail, probably a typo, but also may have been a Freudian slip. There will be plenty of events worthy of jungle as an adjective. Just wait and see…
Nah, autocorrect. But it could be unintentionally prescient.
Black unemployment was actually getting very low, providing some sort of living. Now? I haven’t even considered the racial aspect of this shut down, but blacks and Hispanics are a younger population than the older whites we’ve shut down the economy to save.
That’s unsavory.
We have another Dr Tom Dooley on our hands.
Interseting tweet from Catherine Austin Fitts @TheSolariReport on 3/22/20
“Slave trade was outlawed because the London banks were losing money – no ability to track and claim collateral. However, if you chip humans, you can return to global slave trade. Collateralize digital currency with humans – keep the gold for yourself” https://home.solari.com/book-review-the-half-has-never-been-told/
I like her, she even will mention chemtrails.
BUT with robotics, workers are not needed by the billionaires.
Her thinking isnt far reaching enough, its 20 year ago mode.
You’re probalby right! With accelerating advances in automation and AI, a paradigm shift is assuredly underway. The economic and government systems that served as the backbone of the Industrial Age and the so-calledInformation Age are on life-support. In the near future, besides blue collar jobs, many high paying white collar jobs will be eliminated as well. For instance, AI can read MRI’s expotentially faster and with more accuracy than a radiologist. Pop some specs into a program andAI designs a building thereby eliminating the need for an engineer. Heck, AI might become so masterful and powerful that it will deem humans as being no longer necessay including vulgarian billionaires! Is it too late to go back to the good ol’ days?
Mechanical Engineering Technicians & Robotics Technicians are no longer required, eh
Take it up with the masters bringing us AI! In the end AI will probably build and maintain their own robots w/o input from humans! Silicon-based AI can think, reason and learn just like their carbon based brethern! They can also go insane!
Oh Bucky, I hope you’re being facetious.
My son, an EE, works deep in the bowels of the beast designing the processor chips for the AI in autonomous vehicles, etc. He says that these machines are simply super-duper data processors; that there is nothing even remotely approaching “thinking” in the human sense, self-reasoning, or ‘sentience’ in even the most powerful systems.
He says that notions like you’ve expressed are fantasy nonsense cooked up by ignorant techno-utopian types that know nothing of what “AI Technology” really amounts to. Self-replicating? Seriously?
Well Farmer Mac we will just have to wait and see, won’t we? When I was using a payphone back in the 60’s to call my girlie becasue I didn’t want to be within earshot of Ma and Pa, I never imagined a small hand-held device w/o a cord that could make a call from anywhere, order a pizza, pay for coffee, find directions with a street grid and my posiion on Earth geotagged and keep track of my daily steps. All I knowis that silcon-based ntelligence can’t be any crazier than carbon-based humans.
In the interim, let’s all borrow some money and buy something we don’t need that satiates our ego to keep the world’s economy going. Tomorrow will always look like yesterday!
Walter, you’re Mayor now? Last we knew you were a mere councilman. Congratulations. Well, that explain you not being too active on this blog of late; you must be busy as all getout.
Brh
Especially since the two left for us to remove are utilizing the national politic game book to disrupt and divert the attention of the mob. We have a new attorney and a new auditor and it will not be much longer that they can fight the new administration.
Wonderful to read some good news, Walter.
Be the first Jersey Mayor to legalize marijuana, Walt.
Do it for the taxation & municipal coffers plus small business health.
Just say yes to marijuana legalization, Walt.
You will thank me when everyone in NYC thinks you are a great mayor for doing it.
P.S. I ran for mayor twice and lost twice too.
RW
I have not found one of us who are running the shows out here that does not believe firmly that this entire facade has not been put in place to provide cover for the inevitable financial/economic collapse.
Beware of sentences with “not” in them three times! Are you sawing that all the worker bees out there in West New Jersey believe the virus lock-down is a cover for the collapse of the economic system?
If so – wow – that’s a lot of paranoia | conspiracy in one neat package. Firstly – explain to me why an economy in trouble would wish to worsen it? And if you don’t adhere to the virus protocols, then a lot of people (more than there need be) are going to die.
Societal and financial reset minus a few million useless eaters. (The over-heated economy was about to tank either way.) New all digital currency with bank accounts adjusted (downward!) accordingly. Draconian “safety and security measures” added in just for fun. Really now, this is not that hard. This is 9-11 Part Deux, “The Whole Fucking Shooting Match.” When it comes to paranoia, you can never possibly be paranoid enough! Can’t do it!
What’s the weather like at the Idaho compound?
Really – you’re way over-thinking it, and sinking into a morass.
The puppets in the government, and even in your version of the “deep state”, are so incompetent, disunited, and suspicious that they cannot manage a piss-up in a brewery, let alone orchestrate a “societal and financial reset minus a few million useless eaters.”
Even the Goldman Sachs and the captains of Corporate America ain’t that smart … they’re only there because nearly all of them were born on third base. I(n fact the whole country was – you really should have done a lot better, you know.
Wash your hands regularly, keep your social distance and we’ll get through. We’re all in this together.
Congratulations, Cargill. You have been successfully programmed by the globalist world media to believe “the party line” on apparently every topic out there. It used to be that left-wingers were suspicious of the establishment. Now you are the establishment, even though you pretend so hard not to be.
Be rebellious, question authority – all authority, not just the scary orange man (who actually has almost no authority).
It was SUCH a bubble. There didn’t seem to be any way to back down out of it. Then, an excuse appears that no one can blame on the Fed, who might even look like heroes in their attempt to print us out of this.
It’s no conspiracy when they boast “never let a crisis go to waste.” I think the virus is overblown, but it’s not a figment of my imagination and it has caused deaths. The economic destruction covers the deflation of the bubble.
Sorry Cargill but we all ARE following the precautionary measures prescribed even though they are far less restrictive than they would be for a simple influenza pandemic. The reaction is grossly overblown by all accounts. Take for example the travel restriction put in place by Trenton which call for “Statewide Stay at Home Order, Closure of All Non-Essential Retail Businesses”, yet the exceptions allow for everyone to do pretty much everything anyway.
Yes gyms, tattoo and nail parlors as well as large scale entertainment and sporting events are banned, but travel into urban areas and back is totally ok. It is all very strange indeed.
Walter,
May I be the first online to address you as; Hizzoner?
Shouldn’t that be “Uronner”?
Majella,
He is a mayor, not a judge. He WILL, of course, be judged….
Perhaps harshly.
Perhaps not.
Correction: I reconfirmed with the teenagers at the dinner table last night. They are taught in their high school prep school that there are 59 different genders, not 57. I apologize for the confusion. Thank you.
This is no time for making me laugh. 69 genders.
Has a nice ring to it, don’t ya think?
Freaky-Deaky….
LOL.
We are so simple- 2 genders and easy visual identification. There is a third involving a genetic defect but @ less than 1% meh.
The ones with the defects eventually know what they are without anybody telling them, too.
I wonder-
How much of the gender confusion stems from a society of children and their adults who are so strung out on drugs, they cannot tell the difference many more.
They are taught in their high school prep school that there are 59 different genders, not 57. – Puck
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There is a disconnect somewhere. I got a letter from the Census folks a few days ago. It gave me a code to use at a web site to fill out the info for any persons living at my address. There is only the wife and me so it’s pretty simple. After filling in names the first actual question is to identify your ‘Gender.’ To my great surprise there are only two choices, Male and Female.
There must be some kind of mistake on the forms. Or maybe the Census dept didn’t get the message there are 59 genders now. At any rate Liz Warren is busy in the Senate rectifying the situation, and new census forms will be mailed promptly.
Brh
And the You tube ads for Census celebrate Muslims, non Whites, etc etc….Whites not needed.
Q.
Could it have asked…”gender assigned at birth”?
No, I don’t think so.
This woman has a Make UP!! channel on You Tube.
She is in Graduate school with 120k in debt.
And she wants an expensive wedding.
YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY!!!! WAKE UP!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y00kGzx7scQ&t=432s
I’d be focusing on the burgeoning weight problem, if I was her. She’s too young to be that pudgy. No wedding cake for her!
ha ha LOL!
zucchini chocolate cake for you!
I really think the cause of a lot of that is some of the ingredients they put in processed foods today.
Doctor Atkins was right about he role of the low fat diet in obesity, but IMO it goes beyond that.
I think high fructose corn syrup plays a major role. I also think that’s why we have been seeing diatribes against “sugar” in the media, while omitting the fact that these “sweetened beverages” they are trying to force consumers to stop consuming, don’t contain what we call sugar at all.
There’s a documentary called King Corn by two men who got interested in the corn agribusiness after hearing someone had analyzed our food consumption patterns are said 70% of what we ate was corn-based. They thought this was crazy and set about to prove it wrong and ended up with evidence it was true. From corn syrup in everything to all the corn that’s fed to cows, hogs and chickens, our primary food was corn.
ya that’s right
safe to say I seriously doubt she’ll ever be able to pay off that 120K in debt now.. or most anybody else for that matter..
Since the wide spread use of plastic for everything (and the added bonus of air miles, cash back, etc.) money has an unreal aspect to it. A couple of months I went cash only except for utilities and spent a lot less. Credit card use exploded in the US in the eighties and nineties and guess where most of those amazing offers came from? Delaware — home of Senator Biden, Friend to Credit Card Companies.
All these kids racking up debt live in LaLa land about the realities of credit cards and student loan debt peonage.
Biden played a major role in the student loan debt carve-out to the bankruptcy reforms.
If you had enough income to qualify for a high credit card limit, you could charge tuition on a credit card, and then wipe that debt out through bankruptcy if you later became insolvent through financial reversals due to one of the government created crashes.
Bu if you took out loans, you could lose everything, but still owe that debt.
Doesn’t sound right to me.
There have been studies about how people spend and does having cash or cash in large or small bills effect spending.
BUT SHE WANTS A LAVISH WEDDING.
She has 100s? of make up tutorials…maybe she should have gone to Beauty School.
She still has a ways to go to challenge Triggly Puff, out in Amherst. Remember her?
“It’s hard to keep morale up when you realize that all the usual conveyer belts of stuff you need to keep going are breaking down. It’s not hard to imagine fights, sure to come, over that dwindling stuff, which we will struggle heroically to allocate because we are really not all bad. Goodness abides, even in that America we managed to so deeply profane. Let’s hope there’s enough of it.”
I must admit on a local level people are well behaved in this rural area.
So far everyone is being helpful and no issues.
I fear now that days are starting to run into weeks, what will happen when it becomes months?
Only time will tell as there is no doubt a tension in the air building.
Very glad to be on my remote farm in in Ohio and not the suburbs of Chicago. Talking with my peeps there the tension is heavier and building faster…
Face guy
Isn’t the tension in and around Chi always heavy, so far in 2020 nearly 500 people shot, 85 dead. I mean, how much worse can it get? You would think, day after day, week after week of carnage, anybody who could be shot, has been shot. But no, new candidates keep stepping up.
Brh
Any one notice that Chicago does not need the virus to have a lethal epidemic.
In Baltimore the National Guard has been deployed to tamp down the gunplay, free up at least a few beds for Covid-19 sufferers … this after last week 8 people got shot in one night.
Brh
They’re deployed all over the state, awaiting nationalization.
Continuity of Government bunkers.
It won’t sit well with the hoi polloi when the White House, cabinet secretaries, Joint Chiefs, Chuck, Nancy, and Mitch suddenly disappear from TV screens.
Probably starting from a higher baseline of crazy does not help.
I see this as a reset as we were going off a societal norm cliff. The cause of course was the PC kumbaya theme from our fellow Americans pushing socialism . They have been projecting this over the past 50 years until it reached a crescendo levels. Hey! so it makes them feel good but the results affect the rest of us badly. I think your right Jim about many things. Your right on with the 1,500 mile Caser salad, trains that can go 80 mph and run on time and the suburbanization that turned into exurbs destroying country life and where small farming once thrived. Be happy to see people realize how fragile life can be. We all need to be more self sufficient on all levels from the home, town, city and the nation
Gotta pull a Q here: it’s “you’re right” contracted from “you are right”, not “your right” as in “the right belongs to you”.
Also, it’s the ‘3500 mile Caesar Salad’ shipped overnight air from the central valley of California to the east coast every day.
Otherwise a bunch of good observations, especially the last sentence.
People are just mostly waiting for it to all return to “normal”. Except that some are panicking and it’s hard to know what they will be after. The TP, masks, wipes and hand sanitizers I figured they’d be after. But freezers? I just moved into a new(to me) house and wanted to buy a freezer. Forget it. They are gone nationally and out here there are insane numbers waiting on them all as they are backlogged. I had no idea this would be such a hot item but evidently people want to be able to buy frozen meals, pizza etc. and stash them away. Me, I was looking for a way to freeze the garden produce. Guess I’ll be canning and drying……
It sure does feel like the prequel to your “World Made By Hand” books though Jim. and we haven’t even had a EMP or pole shift yet. Or grand solar minimum. Stay tuned……… more “fun” to come.
It’s hard to find an appliance made in America. I would guess those freezers coming from overseas (especially China) have stopped coming. So I imagine the freezer situation will not get better anytime soon.
Of course, in a few months we may not have the electricity to run them or the surplus groceries to stock them. My sister uses an old, broken freezer as a secure food pantry which bugs and mice can’t get into. So there’s always that use.
Gets interesting if there is not a return to normal in a few months. Maybe or maybe not at this point. But if we get into August heat with things still being FUBAR social unrest will commence…
It isn’t interesting enough for you all ready? How people are reacting is fascinating and things will not being going back to normal, ever. A new equilibrium will for a while be reached. But normal as you knew it will never be.
Slowly then all at once. Don’t be so impatient.
On some occasions we see eye to eye, K-Dog. I also believe there is no going back. A new world will emerge. I doubt very much it will be a better one.
Even if the COVID-19 virus were a giant farce (and I don’t think it’s a farce), the measures taken in reaction to it are enough to usher in a New World Order with tyranny and injustice for all.
yup
Since the gyms are closed I discovered that PowerBlock adjustable dumbbells are all sold out.
Somehow, that makes sense. Good for them I say, because they make a very high-value, space-saving product that helps millions stay fit.
Their adjustable dumbbells are perfect for a home gym unless you are the type of person that absolutely has to work to failure and drop them or intentionally slam them on the ground.
Hey Mountain Gal,
Canning and dehydrating are great choices since they are ‘energy-free storage’ once completed. Think root cellar as well and very important: lacto-fermentation. Warm season power outages can quickly ruin whole freezer loads of food — our freezers are in an unheated building so winter outages are not much of a threat. And the longer you store in a freezer, the more costly the food becomes.
Check out: The Art Of Fermentation
And: href=”https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Dehydrator-Cookbook-Including-Just-Add-Water/dp/0811713385/ref=sr_1_3?crid=6WCYFLP9SAEG&dchild=1&keywords=the+ultimate+dehydrator+cookbook&qid=1585017058&sprefix=the+ultimate+dehy%2Caps%2C263&sr=8-3″>The Ultimate Dehydrator Cookbook and others like it.
Damn, I hate it when I screw up a link. Try again:
The Ultimate Dehydrator Cookbook and others like it.
This has been an outsized response to a conventional pandemic. Whether this response is intentional for some grand purpose, or our people and leadership continuing to just keep doing stupid shit is anyone’s guess.
I think half of it is just the desire by so many people to have their turn at feeling important. A low IQ and a desire the be the narc are a dangerous combination.
I think half of it is just the desire by so many people to pass the buck because they like the POTHUS don’t have mental horsepower to understand what is going on. KDFP
POTHUS? President of the Honky United States?
Beryl of oink
You’ve certainly been the exemplar of what drivel flows as the result of low IQ
“Conventional pandemic”??? What IS the appropriate response to a “conventional pandemic”, pray tell?
Excellent post, per usual, Mr. K, especially considering your local conditions up there this morning. Yes indeed, the tendency to interpret such events as portents of even greater disasters to come is now well inculcated in us as individuals, as well as the larger herd in general.
Things are mostly still fairly routine out west here. I’m now on a work from home schedule that allows me the freedom to come into the office as I see fit for my more arduous tasks, a freedom I’m taking advantage of this morning. Best of both worlds so far for me. The grocery store mobs have thinned out again and the gas pumps still work too. Not to mention the bank cards. Local hospital seems to be doing just fine too. And that’s pretty much the limit to my day to day human interactions, even in the best of times, so I can’t find much to complain about just yet.
Some general observations I’m noticing already that have me scratching my head a little bit:
The continued rolling out of celebrities to advise us that they or someone they know has the dreaded CV, but they’re doing just fine, thanks for asking. Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson reported this morning that they are recovering just fine, but that we should all be taking this VERY seriously. Likewise, Big Ben Rothlesberger – resplendent in his mountain man birds nest beard and Dumb and Dumberer scraggly haircut – felt free to share similar sentiments, coming shortly on the heels of last weeks announcement by Sean Payton that he too had the virus, but of course was much too tough to be seriously laid low by it. There seems to be a trend emerging there. I’ve seen no reported cases yet where celebrities were seriously inconvenienced by CV at all. But perhaps they’re just special in that area too.
Likewise, I’ve seen to tragic personal interest stories out there at all yet about individuals and/or families and even communities devastated by the virus. I know it’s still early yet, but where is our normally hyperactive press in reporting all this. Even assuming this is all a giant psyop to take the markets down and crash the economy and/or the dollar, wouldn’t stories like that greatly increase the public’s already overblown fears and aid the cause? That one seems a bit queer to me. But perhaps the press is just all in lockdown too.
And finally, all of this hysteria remains somewhat oddly out of step with observed conditions on the ground here in the Land of Enchantment. Yes, we’re just a poor western state who’s normally weeks or even months out of step with national trends, but everything remains just fine here so far. Even so, the rather large local concern I work for has well above normal foreign and domestic travel levels among a rather large employee base (~10K) made up of contractors, regular employees, vendors, etc. If anyone in our fair state should have seen a major CV outbreak by now, it would be us. Not happenin’ so far. But perhaps it’s coming.
On the other hand, financial hysteria abounds, and I’ll take it on faith that the ongoing market meltdown we’re seeing is indeed real, or as least as real as such things can be in the minds of the “wealth holders,” anyway. That too seems oddly out of step with the actual toll the virus may or may not be actually taking.
But anyway, I’m old now, stubborn and bitchy as hell, and not inclined to believe much of anything I’m told by anyone anymore, so there’s that too. What are you gonna do? Probably die within the next 10 years or so, in my case. Maybe even sooner. Certainly won’t be a tragedy, no matter what the cause.
It sounds like you are suffering from normalcy bias. Which is very normal. I freaked out last week about too many people who are going through the normalcy bias. But then I realized it is just human nature.
I might have normalcy bias, but I’m certainly not suffering from it. But I’m beginning to suspect that just the opposite is true. I think we’re going to find out in another month or so that all of this is being seriously overblown. It goes without saying that there will be an agenda behind that effort. I’ll leave it at that for now.
How can you say that when US deaths in the last 24 hours have gone up by 100. 25% in one day. Every COVID death is a tragedy and in the last day America has has 100 separate tragedies. In the infection derby America is in third place having beat out Spain. We had been neck and neck. In 10 days America will be #1 when we smoke past Italy because we have a POTHUS who does not know what to do.
Many don’t worry be happy comments are becoming exponentially meaningless here. KDFP
Let me ask you something K-Dog.According to the CDC,the 2018-2019 flu season lasted 21 weeks. This information was found on Google :
CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza (Table 1). The number of influenza-associated illnesses that occurred last season was similar to the estimated number of influenza-associated illnesses during the 2012–2013 influenza season when an estimated 34 million people had symptomatic influenza illness
35.5 million infections over 21 weeks In round numbers that’s 1.7 million infections per week. 16.5 million people going to health care providers over 21 weeks in round numbers In round numbers, that’s 790,000 per week. 496,000 were hospitalized. In round numbers, that’s 24,000 per week. 34,200 people died in 21 weeks In round numbers that’s 1650 people at week. Aren’t you being bit over dramatic with your rhetoric?
By all means, worry. Just not about the virus, which is hardly a “tragedy.” The concerning action is elsewhere. By the way, this is MUCH bigger than our Clown POTUS. FOCUS DOG, don’t be distracted by all the sticks being thrown about!
K, no one here seems to have a clue about SARS CoV2, which is the correct medical name for the virus. I’m a retired Biologist. The problem is very serious and real and it’s chiefly due to the characteristics of this virus’s “serial interval”… yes, go ahead people, look it up and actually learn something about virology, also the complete lack of latent immunity in the population (hence the term “novel”), and this virus’s extremely potent infectiousness. So many ignorant comments and idiot conspiracy theories here, but they ignore the real facts at their (and other’s) peril.
the gist of it is, there is not much you can do. There are supposed to be pandemics every few decades.
Snark
Will its potency fade after awhile?
BRH: at a point somewhere “herd immunity” will eventually begin to develop, and by that time a great deal of damage will have been done. Take this seriously. The need for isolation is critical, the economic effect will just have to be swallowed and dealt with later… that part is not my baliwick! But to think this is some sort of conspiracy or needless fear mongering is just plain crazy!! And it can make me crazy when I read some comments here. All we can do is get through it, try to minimize the damage, which could be life-altering, and help each other out however we can.
Leadership!!!!!!!!!
If only it would be broadcast by the mainstream media…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7eVF7NgMQs
“Will its potency fade after awhile?”
BRH,
…mine did….
Ellipsis
You are obviously a neighbor. I think we, being in relatively lower population density areas are not as affected by shortages, yet.
Found a six pack of TP today! Things are looking up!
I’m thinking the TP shortage might have been engineered to scare the populace.
There was plenty around here, we started hearing reports of empty shelves in random locations, and then people ran out and bought extra.
Yep, add the run on TP to one of my decidedly curious observations above.
No San Diego is out of TP you have to get lucky to hit a store right after a delivery or its hit or miss.
We got lucky twice in a period of two weeks so are stocked up for at least two weeks but after that its shower and then clean the shower time.
Beryl of oink
the things you think are worth about a pound of shit.
Anyone following you around needs lots of TP
As always I mean this in a nice way.
she clearly is a complete ignoramus, like so many here.
What is your problem?? Why do you keep making such nasty comments? Fully unprovoked. You should be banned from this board.
That last comment was to Evelyn.
No it wasn’t. I don’t suffer fools gladly. Before going into the “halls of academia” I worked in Public and Environmental Health for Baltimore/ State of MD Dept of Health in Epidemiology and Pathology for 8 years. I’m far more qualified to comment on this subject than anyone here, and I will not tolerate spreading of dis-information or the kind of speculative lunacy being spread around here, no apologies from me. Deal with it.
False information at this time can lead to morbidity, and I will do my best to contradict it.
To make it perfectly clear: my comments were directed to the conspiratorial and completely evidence-free statements being promulgated by B of O.
To paraphrase BG: “extremism in the defense of truth is no vice”.
There are a few videos floating around where media outlets were caught emptying shelves here in Europen grocery stores in order to produce more fear porn.
The TP narrative was obviously media engineered, and is one of my favorites to date. Up there with Trump getting “two scoops of ice cream while his guests get one.”
If there is one thing I have learned over these past 3.5 years, it is that the masses are far less intelligent than I could have ever imagined.
“The TP narrative was obviously media engineered”
And your data base of evidence for that statement is?
“the masses are far less intelligent than I could ever have imagined.”
And clearly you are one of them.
Because no one would panic about toilet paper were it not for the media inducing said panic.
It is probably the last thing one would need in a true emergency.
Try harder, Mr. Scientist.
Nope, sorry James, your timing is still way off. This is all still scripted staged and coordinated. We’ll be making all time highs in the markets by the end of this year and at least for a decade beyond.
By the end of the year, possibly. In ten years? Depends on what the denomination will be. It certainly won’t be the US dollar as we know it today.
Well, I expect US markets will be trading in US dollars. I also expect the US dollar to continue to be the strongest currency on the globe. And so the best returns will always be had in the US.
This sort of rhetoric proves you’re completely deluded.
And Wall Street may have more plans for us too. This is from the WSJ and the remarks in parentheses are a writer named Mike Whitney. The Fed wants the keys to the safe to pick who does or does not get bailed out.
“The Federal Reserve, Treasury Department and banking regulators deserve congratulations for their bold, necessary actions to provide liquidity to the U.S. financial system amid the coronavirus crisis. But more remains to be done. We thus recommend: (1) immediate congressional action …. to authorize the Treasury to use the Exchange Stabilization Fund to guarantee prime money-market funds, (2) regulatory action to effect temporary reductions in bank capital and liquidity requirements… (NOTE–So now the banks don’t need to hold capital against their loans?) .. additional Fed lending to banks and nonbanks….(Note -by “nonbanks”, does the author mean underwater hedge funds?)…
We recommend that the Fed take further actions as lender of last resort. First, it should re-establish the Term Auction Facility, used in the 2008 crisis, allowing depository institutions to borrow against a broad range of collateral at an auction price (Note–They want to drop the requirement for good Triple A collateral.) … Second, it should consider further exercising its Section 13(3) authority to provide additional liquidity to nonbanks, potentially including purchases of corporate debt through a special-purpose vehicle” (“Do More to Avert a Liquidity Crisis”, Wall Street Journal )
This hysteria does “seem oddly out of step with observed conditions” where I live too. Here’s a Nobel laureate’s take on the virus:
“Levitt] blames the media for causing unnecessary panic by focusing on the relentless increase in the cumulative number of cases and spotlighting celebrities who contract the virus. By contrast, the flu has sickened 36 million Americans since September and killed an estimated 22,000, according to the CDC, but those deaths are largely unreported.
He fears the public health measures that have shut down large swaths of the economy could cause their own health catastrophe, as lost jobs lead to poverty and hopelessness. Time and again, researchers have seen that suicide rates go up when the economy spirals down. “The real situation is not as nearly as terrible as they make it out to be,” he said…”
Here’s the article from LA Times:
https://news.yahoo.com/why-nobel-laureate-predicts-quicker-210318391.html
Thanks, SW. Good information.
“That doesn’t mean complacency is acceptable. Levitt said the social-distancing mandates are critical — particularly the ban on large gatherings — because the virus is so new that the population has no immunity to it and a vaccine is still many months away.”
Michael Levitt
2008 all over again, albeit on steroids this time. At least now we know how it’s going to play out. Although, collapse later remains an option, of course.
Ellipsis, I thought so too, except in fast forward. The run up to 2008 was about a year of housing prices going up, up, up! Every day new median prices were reported, creating panic and anxiety. The average house price is 400,000! The next day, the average house price is 450,00!
Then, BLAM, market crash uncovering all kinds of nefarious and rotten practices. Then the bailouts….which most Americans said NO too, but that did not matter.
Now it feels the same, but intensified. I am guessing the public would not buy it a second time, there are many of us that remember the first time, so they had to come up with a new crisis in which to enact stimulus bills, and create money out of nothing. The hype around numbers, seem the same strategy used in 2008. 100 New COVID-19 Cases! COVID-19 cases doubled overnight in NYC! 20,000 cases in the US!
It feels the same.
This place is filled with black hearts who for a kibble will ignore the exponential function. KDFP
Rest assured, it will not ignore us.
It looks like the Corona infection has ignored the exponential function lately. By your fear mongering the mainland China should be a charnel house by now
I have my money on April 5th when the D’s roll out a new narrative about ending the draconian Potemkin lockdowns and that Marshall Trump’s martial law is grounds for a new impeachment, I’m not joking.
Have you seen what constitutes the D-party’s voting base? Half have zero impulse control and the other half have mental illnesses which frankly will cause an epic meltdown under stress. Can the D-party mob bosses control that crowd with lockdown narrative forever? Not a chance.
The familiar expression, “Circle the wagons!” We-l-l-l-l, essentially, doesn’t that imply that an “inside” demographic must be protected from the external? OK, so where goes that bland sentiment proclaimed on yard signs “No human is illegal”? So to push the point I’ll post again what I posted as comment to Jim’s Friday blog statement.
Considering that the US medical delivery system is already overwhelmed by the Covid-19 plague, and with predictions only of a worsening state, here’s my proposal for the DNC and all of its army of virtue signally “wokesters” (open borders crowd) demanding that ICE’s detention centers free into our society all held illegal aliens on basis that the crowded conditions within those centers add to the detainees’ chance of contagion: SIGN A DOCUMENT expressing that in event of medical emergency due to Covid-19 infection, you decline medical intervention for self and family members so that the medical system will be that much relieved of the additional burden of entitling illegal aliens for treatment.
That reminds me. there was a case of a “polio-like” illness afflicting children a while back, which just happened to coincide with one of those border assaults, where people coming in were allowed to move around the country.
Polio is communicable, but there was no national crackdown at that time. We had a different president.
I was very surprised at that time, to find out there was a little boy in a local hospital afflicted with what his parent called polio. Nothing at all in the news, I only happened to hear about it on social media. At first I thought maybe the person claiming to have a sick child was making it up. Then I saw people, real, verifiable residents, who said they knew the family.
So, the MSM and the government will elevate or deep-six public health concerns based on political value, in my experience.
That was largely covered up Beryl, for obvious political reasons. To even mention it was to invite charges of racism and xenophobia. I know Lowell, Mass. was hit pretty hard, and very young children in NJ and Colorado died from it. (Basically anywhere unaccompanied immigrant children from Central America were sent and placed in public schools) It was an unnamed disease, but its effects were similar to polio and meningitis. The media acted just the opposite as to how they are responding to covid 19.
Brh
Leprosy, TB, ad nauseum.
On a positive note, great to hear about the canals being kept up. In Illinois the upkeep of D-voter dependonistas was found to be too expensive and shoveling money to road contractors too lucrative. Our canals look like mosquito breeding pools.
But wait, there’s more. There were more than a few canal companies operating in New York State. Until the coming of the railroads there were several canals in operation or under construction in the Finger Lakes region and elsewhere on the Southern Tier. For example there was the canal that followed the Keuka Lake Outlet between Penn Yan and Dresden on the Seneca Lake. In the early 19th century the farms near the Finger Lakes were faced with the problem of agricultural surplus with no markets. If you could get your produce to one of the nearby large bodies of water, you could get it to the Erie canal or even south to the Susquehanna River via the Chemung. Had the railroads come later or agriculture started earlier, Upstate New York would be laced with canals. With some strong backs and agile minds some of these canals could be resurrected if need be.
Isn’t the Erie Canal still open, and used (on a limited basis)?
Yes, a lot of it is still operational. It’s an attraction for pleasure boaters. And there is still some limited commercial traffic.
That’s amazing, 200 or so years old and still operating. Dug with picks and shovels, laid out by surveyors with transoms, designed by civil engineers with pencils and notepads. At one time we really knew how to build things IMHO.
Irish slaves built the Erie Canal. Funny the canal should come up.
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llness was a constant concern for the contractors and the laborers. Swampy stagnant waters brought with it malaria infested mosquitoes. Poor hygiene habits would contribute to the spread of cholera throughout the canal project and the surrounding populated areas. An observer to the canal construction in 1839 wrote: “Laboring from day to day in low lands and stagnant water, human life has proved to be very short. Out of 1500 laboring men employed on the canal, 1000 died during this past year of over-exertion and the diseases incident to the climate, fever and ague and bilious weather.”
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KDFP
The Panama Canal was almost stopped with Yellow Fever. Walter Reed saved that effort.
Thanks K-dog for pointing that out, highlighting the fact that in the industrializing north before the civil war so much of the workforce was — except for not actually being chattel — held in the equivalent of a bondage by fear of family starving if income ended. If history hadn’t been made a political prisoner — even back then — of partisan narrative more common would be knowledge that the north before the civil war was constantly being racked with violent protest against the abolitionist because the influx of escaped slaves (brought in via the “underground railroad”) were means of employers undercutting wage floor while, like the coastal elitist of today, got to virtue signal their opposition to slavery.
That’s why many men simply abandoned family to become frontiersmen. As much as Harriett Beecher Stowe generalized southern plantation owners as evil (Simon Legree) on average their disposition toward labor was hardly different than that of northern employers.
Yep. Used to take trips family trips there as a kid. As a kid, I was amazed by the lock system and the fact that you could watch it in action there.
James,that second paragraph perfectly summarizes the whole shebang,well done. Meantime I’ve had a good laugh watching my wifes facebook feed exploding with whether it’s raaaaaysisssss to call it the Chinese flu ! I so wanted to point out the civilized way those wet markets work, you know like torturing the animals prior to killing them ’cause they taste better or something. That includes dogs and cats. These same people would likely turn you in if you let your mutt ride in the back of your pickup.
Well and first off who the hell wants to eat soup with a literal full fledged bat sitting in it? And you are literally supposed to eat the bat like chicken. And from what I saw it is left with the fur still on it!
Oh, how nasty! Gordon Ramsay of Hell’s Kitchen wouldn’t touch that with a ten foot spatula.
Lol! And can you imagine how many f bombs he would drop in a minute seeing such a sight!?
And with all this mandated “social distancing” couples may soon need 10 ft spatula’s for foreplay.
Every hunter I know trys to kill their prey as quickly as possible because the adrenalin surge throws the flavor of the meat off.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/why-scared-animals-taste-worse
Poor lil guys.
“I doubt that the federal government as we know it can survive its own desperate measures to re-ignite the hologram of rehypothecated promises to pay back all the debt gone bad.”
Very good, Jim, very good. You are starting to get to me, tho’ I am still not convinced we will roll all the way back to Jacksonian America. For one thing, the insanity of this here ape that is us, is way, way beyond self-repair. I reckon we will be regulated – or eliminated, if need be – by good auntie Gaia. It’s just simply that the addiction to modern life is little more complex than, say, the one to crack cocaine; it has to do with who we are and where we came from, which almost no-one pays any attention these days. People will always dream of a better future, that which comes after blood, toil, sweat and tears have been expended. The woke nuttiness of the Left comes from a sense of entitlement entirely divorced from effort, from getting attention by simply acting ignorant and anti-social. The obscene misanthropy, pathological self-promotion and hoarding on the Right perfectly complements it. Neither can even imagine a liveable future that the other side would consent to. Hell, Laura Ingraham’s two guests on Fox News late last week advocated that Trump halve capital gains tax as an emergency measure to get the economy going again. I kid you not. And yet, it is what it is, and neither COVID-19 nor bubonic plague will not change the psycho-social methods of selecting leaders and elites among us. A revolution can replace the Girondin by the Jacobins, and the Directoire by Napoleon, but eventually the Bourbons would return. It’s in our genes. We are hierarchical animals even where the Zeitgeist dictates that the top dogs talk like passionate egalitarians and pretend they care what happens to the hoi polloi.
Soloview for VP. KDFP
Out of 1500 laboring men employed on the canal, 1000 died during this past year of over-exertion and the diseases incident to the climate, fever and ague and bilious weather.”
2 of 3 died that year..indentured ‘servants?’
Well said. The Law of the Conservation of Evil. Only the values of the variables change, not the variables themselves. Thus we still have niggers, but now they’re White Men.
Personally it matter quite a lot to me and should to other White Men. Certainly this Law does not imply that all men are actually equal or deserve to be treated the same. Superficially it may seem so, but the ideas have no connection to each other.
I live just a mile and a quarter from a large airport, with the landing pattern directly over my condo, and I haven seen ANY planes for two days.
Did you see the story about the Chinese woman working for Biogen, but who didn’t attend a conference whose attendees later spread the Wuhan Flu all ver the place, got on a plane despite being sick, and returned to China despite facing prison for doing so?
There were contradictory claims made that she was refused testing.
Doesn’t it seem like this story should get more media attention than whether some dipshit in the entertainment field got tested but is asymptomatic?
Especially when there is some basis for thinking that perhaps this virus was deliberately inflicted.
Why would someone with no symptoms get tested, anyway?
“some basis for thinking that perhaps this virus was deliberately inflicted.”
There you go again…thinking?…evidently a process with which you, malthuss, and most here, actually, are entirely unfamiliar.
“Why would someone with no symptoms get tested, anyway?”
Jesus, do the conspiracies here ever end??
Ever heard of asymptomatic transmission of disease???
A number of healthcare workers have been so infected with SARS CoV2 (the real name for this virus) so far.
Calm down Snark. Conspiracy is real. Not all theories are equally good, but some are simple FACT – like the “Theory of Gravity.” The disease is real, but someone may have released it on purpose. Can you disprove this? There is evidence, even if not conclusive.
Look out, here comes the big brain.
His first salvo? Label everything conspiracy and promote narratives spoon fed to him by the McMedia.
Lay it out for us, Snarkster!
I think that the bailout money should go mainly to the wage earners in this country. The government says that consumer spending is 70% of the economy, that should show you where most of the money needs to go. Businesses like Goldman Sachs, who just gave their president a 23 million payout, are standing right in line for their handouts. This after buying back their stock in order to increase the payouts to their investors, instead of salting some away for a rainy day, like I do.
It looks to me like they are expecting a repeat of 2008, when the govt. bailed out all of those losers when their businesses tanked. I remember that at the time they were getting bailed out, they kept on handing out bonuses to their top executives. There’s no embarrassing these people. Remember, the goal is to privatize the profits, and socialize the losses. In other words: let John Q Public foot the bill for bailing out these whales yet again. I’ve stopped eating bat sandwiches. Just doing what I can to help out.
As unfair as it seems, not bailing out the TBTF entities just multiplies the problems. Give the working class all the money does nothing except put off the inevitable running out of microeconomic capital. Imagine the shutting down of all those bad old corporations, and the millions of jobs that will go down with them. Then we will have the progressives dream, all the folks dependent on the government for their income. Big problem, the government has no source for all that money if the TBTF folks are not paying taxes and thus neither are the working folks.
The greatest magical act is how to give money to all those working folks when there is no source for governmental revenue.
I imagine you would give the money to Joe Lunchbox being the same as when you give it out to the TBTF boys. Private citizens pay taxes too. Sounds like what you are saying is: Give bailout money to the corporations, and they’ll use some of it (but not all of it) to pay back the govt in taxes. What’s the difference between the folks being dependent on the government for their income, and the corporations being dependent on the government for their income?
Don’t forget, Trickle Down Economics is called Horse and Sparrow Economics. The theory being that if you feed enough oats to the horse, some will pass through for the sparrows. Need I say that we are the sparrows?
No I said that every level needs the bailouts. Isolation to one level will accomplish nothing.
TBTF entities are not the only means to generate wealth. When they keel over, the demand for goods and services will remain. The big question is what will replace them in a world made by hand. Or perhaps the more pressing question is how do we get there from here? If we take a Marxian* approach to the problem we see that the crux is the siphoning of surplus value into the capital stream. Those who generate wealth by their labor are deprived of capital by expropriation of surplus value. The effect is to keep the working class poor while capital accumulates among the few capitalists at the top. You’ll notice the working class does not build Walmarts, but is forced to shop at them because of stagnant wages. While we’re on the topic of Walmart, remember the wages of its workers are subsidized by public welfare benefits. When Walmart enters a market, local retailers struggle or go out of business. When globalism fails and the Walmarts go away, what then? The wealth that could have capitalized local business has been lost. There are ways around this problem, but most Unitedstatesians have been indoctrinated to find them distasteful.
*Marxian – a more pragmatic, bread and butter Marxist versus a doctrinaire approach to Marx’s analysis of capitalism.
More people need to pay attention to Economists Richard Wolff and Michael Hudson, but they won’t.
The problems come about during the transition phase. Won’t be an easy turnover at all.
JohnAZ
It’s not the corporations, many of them huge conglomerates of smaller businesses that have been hoovered up by Big Brands and who do all the employing that is the problem being referred to here – it’s the fecking banksters. Breaking up those huge hedge-fund/casino enterprises would be a positive thing for the entire planet.
Any corporation that needs bailout money should have to accept government control of its operations. The most direct way to accomplish that is to have the government own a voting majority of the shares, or at least a controlling interest. A quid pro quo. No more loans from the government. No corporation has to accept that deal. They’re free to go into reorganization in bankruptcy court if that’s what they choose & let the creditors get stiffed. But if they choose to come hat in hand to the government for bailout money, they have to cede control to the government in their day to day operations & their board of directors. If the executives & board of a corporation can’t act responsibly in the public interest, if they burden the corporation with debt for the sole purpose of stock buybacks, they don’t deserve bonuses & other perks when they get in trouble & can’t repay the debt.
I’ve heard some speculation that this round of bailouts will be the first step towards nationalization.
Nationalization? Just the opposite, me thinks.
Yes, so far all they’ve nationalized is their losses. This speculation also comes from NWO fear mongers, so take it with a grain of salt.
The Corporations are the Government. Plutocracy. Watch the old version of “Rollerball”. But even they bow before the International Bankers or nascent World Government. They know who controls “money” and who creates it out of nothing in imitation of God. Indeed, have you noticed the hush in the Great Banks? They are Temples to this God.
This is what I’ talking about right here:
Can you believe these ungrateful SOBs! I hope the government calls the bluff of this MF’er.
Ah. In other words, Nationalise the bastards. Gee…isn’t that a little bit like Communism?
Call it what you want. “ism’s” get in the way of practical solutions. And we’re not talking about complete ownership. [face-palm]
Wish I still had my Royal manual typewriter. Got so nobody knew how to fix them. Replacement ribbons were scarce. One of those babies and a Heidelberg Platen Press converted to water-driven power source and you could be the future’s William Randolph Hearst.
Time to be adults
https://youtu.be/-6CKWa3hBWs
I think I used to buy weed from this guy.
NO more almond guys….
🙂
almond milk lol
Don’t laugh, that’s what my daughter and her female army of yoga fanatics drink. I tried to choke some down once. No go. You can’t use it in coffee either.
I’ve made chocolate “milk” out of it.. it wasn’t bad
nutty flavor
Wow. Sobering.
Thank you for that.
I have a friend who runs a small local high speed internet service which provides connections for the city and county offices. He received a letter from DHS informing him that because his business supports critical infrastructure, he will be exempt from any curfews or fuel rationing. That raises the question, when do I get my ration book? Or maybe I should see if he’ll hire me so I don’t need one.
Is this the way to fight a pandemic in a Western Democracy?
pahttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/newsus/the-virus-can-be-stopped-but-only-with-harsh-steps-experts-say/ar-BB11yi2a?ocid=spartannt
Think what would have happened if the PTB in the Middle Ages had forced everyone to kill all the rats and cultivate the cats.
They operated with little knowledge and winged their responses according to the “smarts” of the day, the church. The people eventually rejected the church as omnipotent and the Middle Ages ended.
Exactly what scares the hell out of the Ayatollahs in Iran. When the folks no longer fear the power of their religious sect, their reign will end along with the power of Shia fanaticism.
Think what would have happened if the PTB in the Middle Ages had forced everyone to kill all the rats and cultivate the cats.
And the human population might have bloomed, 8-50 billion, then the die off.
Plagues and wars cull the herd, so to speak. Hence the human race is still here.
It wasn’t known what caused Bubonic plague until 1897. After the Black Death period apparently the plague never really went away but recurred decade after decade, at times on a large scale, killing tens of thousands in short periods, like in London in 1515, and 1666.
Brh
I recommend checking out Gail Tverberg’s latest post, where she analyzes the COVID situation with the same analytic depth and common sense that the brings to energy issues.
My tentative take is that it appears COVID has a death rate around 1% of those infected if–a big if–severe cases can be properly treated. Otherwise, add an additional 2 to 4%. Because COVID is so infectious, and the cat’s already out of the bag in spite of belated measures to isolate individuals and groups, it’s likely 50% of Americans will be infected. At that point, the population begins to develop herd immunity.
I think the U.S. has around 360 million people. 50% of that is 180 million. 3% of untreated severe cases can lead to an additional 5.4 million deaths, beyond the 1.8 million.
Even though widespread infection is inevitable, can our isolation measures at least slow it down enough that our hospitals have a fighting chance of handling the case load? A study back in early March (forget where, sorry) estimated that you’d need a 10-year lockdown to achieve this, assuming you could somehow keep mask production, etc. going.
Never mind 10 years. The modern economy would shatter within 6 months or less. Along with crippling our ability to treat the severe COVID cases, a wrecked economy will result in huge casualties for all the reasons that readers of this blog are well aware.
Absent a miracle cure, most of the severe cases will not have the benefit of ventilators, etc, whether or not the economy can get started again. (They may have a somewhat better chance if more people are allowed to start making things again.) So if we want to minimize total deaths, we need to relax the stay-in-place. There’s a big difference between fooling around with jiggering the claims to wealth, and actually making wealth (or growing it).
On caveat: We don’t know how mutable this virus is, or whether it may come to attack our children. Keeping them away from school may continue to be a good idea. And maybe the young set can use these next few months to gain wisdom and skills not normally imparted by the schools. Maybe mom and dad can take the time to sit them down and explain how they got into their careers, what day-to-day life was actually like for them at the workplace, and what skills turned out to be crucial to their success, and how much or little their schooling had to do with that.
Maybe it’s an opportunity for jus to experiment with caloric restriction and intermittent fasting, while increasing the nutritive content of what we do eat. (Speaking just for myself, I found that when doing aerobics first thing in the morning , my body was happy to burn the fat around my waist rather than urging me to ingest carbs. Fat can be asubstantial money belt, though not a particularly health one.) Maybe it’s an opportunity to see if meditation and focus can increase our tolerance for heat and cold. (That sure helped when I was in Michigan.)
To our college age readers: Just because many colleges disappear doesn’t mean that there aren’t better, cheaper ways for you to leave the basement, move elsewhere and have fun with your peers. What about co-ed “lodges” where like-minded people study a craft, combining on-line learning with practical experience. What about “makers’ lodges” where you have simple living arrangements combined with cool workshops? Just a thought.
Gail is ignorant about this. Sam Mitchell interviewed Gail and several other experts. Only Gail said the virus should run it’s course. That is an ignorant point of view. It show a bare bones understanding of epidemiology but that is all.
1). Slowing the infection prevents the health care system from being overloaded giving infected people a better chance of survival.
2). Slowing the infection allows time for a virus to be developed and for treatment to be refined.
See Sam’s series here. I have watched them all and Derrick Jenson will be the last interview which should get posted today.
KDFP
But pretty much we all agree the infection is good for the planet. But if it happens to you it sucks.
There is no should. The virus will run its course no matter what we think the best option is. Attempting to significantly slow it will collapse the entire economic system – the plan from the start – and make everything else – including dealing with the virus itself – worse. A classic dilemma. The fact that Gail often disagrees with the so-called “experts” is her strongest trait.
You are right. If the plague lasts a short time then flattening the curve will help health care. If it does not abate or hits multiple times, nothing will help. I think Trump believes this is the case and does not want to sacrifice the economy to do little to fight the disease.
A real contest developing inside the administration.
OI think Trump’s probably right in that sense, although it remains to be seen whether the economy can be saved at all at this point.
Refuse people treatment?
There’ll be an army of personal injury lawyers in the lobby, taking names and signing people up.
Lawsuits will be coming thick and fast.
“Flattening the curve” may not be the best approach. More people will suffer if the economy collapses. It’s a matter of costs vs. benefits. One thing is certain: a doubling of cases every 4 days will mean tens of millions by the middle of April. The healthcare system can practice triage so as not to become overwhelmed. Yes, many will not receive care, but them’s the breaks. (This will likely require martial law to put the nation on a war footing.) Under this scenario, herd immunity will come much sooner than dragging this thing out. Critical supplies such as masks, nitrile gloves, hand sanitizers & wipes must be prioritized in this war effort.
So to summarize:
Activate the Defense Production Act,
Get the nation open for business immediately. Remove the lockdown orders, let people go to work, gatherings, events & lift the stay-at-home advisories. More people will come down with the illness quicker, but those who have to practice greater caution will have the means to do so. People over 60 should be refused treatment at clinics & hospitals for cold & flu symptoms.
Did you mean allow time for a vaccine to be developed in number 2?
I’m leaving this forum for a while. No longer interested in the braying that is going on.
The general tone today is one of a whole lot of people whistling past the graveyard.
You better be ready for what’s on the way.
Don’t! You are hearing the results of impossible decision making, decision making without data to back it up. AKA, shooting from the hip.
An old movie line is
I did it because I had a hunch. We are in that realm today!
We disagree a lot, but I take in your viewpoint which has good points at times.
where will you go?
Ev,
A break might do you good…your posts have become a bit…strident. Take care. Stay safe.
Enjoy the spectacle.
Who’s going to insult us now, and tell us to “shut your yap!”
Seems like an easy enough role to fill. Tell me, would the preferred candidate have to wear a wig if natural growing hair was an issue?
It would be a good idea to take some moments of introspection to get past all the bitterness and hate I’ve seen from you today. It’s coming from somewhere, and it’s really not about Beryl.
This is just a reset. Long overdue. The strong and intelligent will survive, the weak and stupid… not so much. Just another blip on our historical time-track of civilization. Life will continue to go on (until something actually exterminates the human race, such as: meteor, ice age, sun burns out, etc.).
K dog
How much of the destruction of the world economy can happen before someone says, it is causing more damage than the virus itself? Do you have an answer for this. If so, please let the idiots in DC know, because they do not have a clue.
Reports this morning say that China is restarting their economy in spite of a slight uptick in cases due to immigrants coming home there. Apple restarting was mentioned.
If the economy is allowed to fail, many more deaths are going to happen from shortages, fights, disease than from the virus itself.
So where is the breaking point?
Trump’s quote: We cannot allow the cure to be worse than the disease.
The Senate is at its partisan best today. The Dems are trying to stick their agenda items onto the relief bill, political blackmail. Why not? It has always worked in the past. McConnell called them out on it this morning and Schumer did not deny it. Dems are playing with fire!
Just a comment. There has to be a certain percentage of the population that when they have gotten the virus and their immune systems block out re-infection, that the number of available hosts just dries up. Same effect as social distancing. Maybe that is what stops flus and other epidemics. We can’t even get a straight answer on whether this bug activates the immune response sufficiently to prevent re-infection. My guess, from the China and S. Korean experiences, that the immune starvation scenario may be correct. Hope so.
Could be that flattening curve exercise is a waste of time, that China totally socially isolating itself fairly quickly is what stopped it there.
Flattening the curve Voluntarily may actually be counterproductive when a significant part of the population ignores the threat. I have noticed Cuomo getting more pissed off at the youngsters everyday.
The only real answer may be to let it burn itself out.
Noticed a lot of folks starting to question whether someone is creating this situation. .???
The answer is to have a proactive attitude instead of the reactive attitude which has characterized American political action so far. A staged plan on bringing the economy down and back up should be worked out know because science gives us the knowledge of how this thing will progress. The decision to deliberately turn things off and bring them back on line in a staged matter is a lot different than what is happening now which is nothing more than random reactionary chaos.
Get essential services operating so food is in the stores and get a testing program in place so our economy can come back on line. When people get tested positive they go home with pay till they become noninfectious.
This shit is not rocket science. People are making it out to be way too hard.
Phone surveillance can identify lists of people to test based on contacts with other known exposed people. Make the deep state do something good.
should be worked out now
Are you ready for this?
I agree with you 100%. The problem as you said it is trying to get the Deep State to do anything. The biggest con job in human history. My hope for Trump is that he would be able to “drain the swamp”. He does not seem to have the wherewithal to get the job even started. His worst enemies though have been in his own party. Mission impossible?
Well, especially since they were almost certainly behind this in the first place. Although, a good cover up after the fact always plays well in the plausible deniability PR department. Trump might mean well, but his “Drain the Swamp” line was always just meaningless campaign drivel. The Swamp swallows little minnows like Trump whole all the time with nary a burp. He paid his money and he’s getting his ride. And then some!
If he really tried to do anything, he’d be found with a pillow on his face, sleeping forever like poor Nino Scalia.
Better to die a hero than live as a servant to evil bastards.
Right K-Dog … planning & organisation is crucial, and so far the US looks like a total shit-show. Cuomo is getting lots of air-time and ‘looking presidential’ and Bernie Sanders has real & specific policy indicative, just not enough airtime. Biden is a zombie and Himself is exactly what I’d expected him to be – useless, venal & downright dangerous.
The NZ govt has put the whole country in a 4 week lock down, with essential services only running, including supermarkets, and significant cash made available to employers (4.2% of GDP so far) to allow people to still be paid).
True, it’s a small place – population about the size of Minnesota and GDP about equal to New Mexico – so not so hard to accomplish. Fortunately, it doesn’t rely on imported food and manufactures all its own TP from scratch!) but from what I can see, the government is managing the expectations of the populace extremely well, AND is letting the scientists run the medical side, without constantly contradicting or undermining the expert advice.
so the US national debt is what… 24-25 Trillion USD..
Gov’t arguing to spend 1-2 Trillion USD..
so… at this point it’s all monopoly money, right?
who gives a fuck.. one trillion, two trillion, 5 trillion?
its nuts…
You are right! The meaning of money is – who knows? The three traditional reasons for money are going away.
As I pointed out last week, it’s always good as butt wipe in a pinch, as long as you remember not to flush it.
Money is a means of control over the population.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/nobel-laureate-why-coronavirus-crisis-may-be-over-sooner-than-you-think?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro
Who’s going to argue with a Nobel Laureate?
Somebody else with a brain?
I hope Michael Levitt gets it and croaks.
But since it is no big deal he won’t mind me saying that.
Dog, Dog! You’re being a real problem barker today. Do we have to go back to your old friend the shock collar again?
Karl Marx was an asshole.
I don’t say that because I heard it from some pundit. I took socialist perspective courses at a very left-leaning University way back in the late 70s. We read Engels, cover to cover and discussed it all in great depth. My first serious boyfriend was an avowed Marxist. Probably still is.
As they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day. That will mean everyone, even those you may detest, whether Trump or Marx, is capable of making insightful and deeply valid points. So Marx and Engels were right about “the conditions of the working class”. Mostly right in some observations regarding runaway “capitalism” though their “mistake” was in getting near the truth, but then veering away, because the full truth was not good for their brand. The real problem is not “capitalism”, it’s greed. One of the Seven Deadlies. Same as it always has been. it’s a supreme understatement to say this is not News. Just a restatement of the obvious, the same hard-wired human condition that has always been, but this time stopping with humanity, not taking that leap to god. (fuck you Kierkegaard)
Humanity becomes its own god. This, IMO, is the real enduring appeal of Marx. We are stardust, we are golden, and we’ve got to get ourselves back to the garden. Not God, god is the problem, man is the solution. Spirit, Hegelian or otherwise, so freeing, so fun. But what is the so-nebulous spirit? just a feeling, an opinion. But One will never suffice, and so the Mob is born of necessity. So sayeth the king of all bitter, preachy, self-aggrandizing current and former journalists and pundits Karl Marx. A guy whose father worried about his son, not getting a “real job” but basically sitting in his basement writing about how the world should be reorganized. And, the world unsurprisingly should be reorganized around…(wait for it)…guys like Karl Marx. Does this scenario sound at all familiar.
Bottom line: fuck God, fuck the Hero’s Journey, fuck all of culture that came before me, I’m not dealing with any of it. Clean slate, me at the top. (same old same old – human succumbs to urge to play god)
I understand what JHK was doing here, but personally, I don’t think that in today’s environment people are well-served in seeing any nod to Marx, of any type, or in any context. Put in colorful terms, you can’t twist the devil’s words so that he serves the Lord. For those yearning to lose their shit, I do not mean that literally, I am not saying Marx = Satan. Though Marx’ pronouncements do serve satanic worldviews in that God is removed from the equation, as is free will, and humans themselves are put in God’s place (as ultimate authority). And then maintain that place with brute force and oppression. Imagine.
And as always, thanks to JHK for being one of the few intelligent people on the Internet.
Yes, when the West lost God, it lost its way.
In the midst of a global pandemic I’m curious why you came here to have a Karl Marx rant?
Shelter in place anxiety?
If a Corporations does not maximize profit and the quest for profit, namely greed, it can be sued by its shareholders.
The Deadly Sin is built into the very fabric of Capitalism. You got close but then “veered” so as to miss the mark, also known as sin.
Google “Third Way”, the apex that reconciles individualism and collectivism into a higher third. Socialism per se, is just an uneasy midpoint in a tug of war.
Note: The Far East always understood this. Outwardly they made themselves over in our image, but they always knew the public and private spheres could not be absolutely separated, that one must lead in the dance and that the Man must be the Government.
British law followed the man on the Clapham omnibus as he was the best measure of opinion for the era given he was a man about town taking public transportation due to his reasonableness as a person in society. British law did not follow the wealthy man taking private transportation as he was not a good arbiter of what the public thought.
British rule with a gold backed financial system was the best that could be achieved IMHO.
RW
Uh oh… More shit again! Make sure to close the lid before flushing and/or bag it securely if it comes to that!
“Prolonged presence of SARS-CoV-2 viral RNA in faecal samples” [The Lancet]. “Our data suggest the possibility of extended duration of viral shedding in faeces, for nearly 5 weeks after the patients’ respiratory samples tested negative for SARS-CoV-2 RNA. Although knowledge about the viability of SARS-CoV-2 is limited,1 the virus could remain viable in the environment for days, which could lead to faecal–oral transmission, as seen with severe acute respiratory virus CoV and Middle East respiratory syndrome CoV.2 Therefore, routine stool sample testing with real-time RT-PCR is highly recommended after the clearance of viral RNA in a patient’s respiratory samples. Strict precautions to prevent transmission should be taken for patients who are in hospital or self-quarantined if their faecal samples test positive.”
You know it could be that as the virus mutates in situ it might make copies that attach to gut cells ( nausea) or muscle cells ( aches and pains) or even nerve cells (headaches). I have heard some of the people that recovered say that the gut related stuff was the last to go.
This virus concerns me mostly because it may lead into the next, then the next with each one being more deadly. That is why, at whatever cost, mankind needs to find away to kill virus cells in situ. Not a vaccine. Vaccines are too hit or miss.
Homosexuals and Kinky Straights, Achtung!
” faecal–oral transmission…”
UPI reports that Andy Cohen has tested positive for CV…test for AIDS not mentioned.
Go figure….
How are things in China. If you want to go here you go.
https://youtu.be/MR-m2vnpEmM
How are things in China. If you want to know here you go.
Mandatory 14 day quarantine and if you go to China and they put you up at $1500 a night. You pay.
And if you can’t pay, they harvest your body part? LOL
Some pretty nice Chinese legs on display there in the background. Me likey. Didn’t note a whole lot of panic going on, either.
DOUBLE WHAMMY MEETS FREAKY DEAKY
You wouldn’t have thought so, but two momentous, earth shaking events have taken place within just the last four years, events linked by laxative, you might say.
First was the election of Donald Trump, with the first ‘draft of Dulcolax glugged by the Gods’, or so thought the Dems, but not near as potent as the second. Like Muhammed Ali, Trump shook up the world, upset the global order of things. It seemed that his re-election was almost a certainty with the economy humming along and his poll numbers rising. In spite of their never ending coup attempt, the Dems couldn’t take him down, and the world shake up would continue, but in ways no one could imagine.
Second was the Corona virus. As Jim has so colorfully, or maybe so colorectally stated, the now second draft of Dulcolax taken by the Gods is showering the world with shit so mercilessly that we are witnessing an extremely rare event, Diarrhea of the Deities.
So now it looks like Trump may finally be gone. A double dose of Dulcolax, years apart. It put Trump into office, and now it just might shit him out.
p.s. Spinks beat Ali in the first fight, lost the second.
What scares me is the dogma as well as the persons that will potentially take his place.
Nope. I think Trump will likely come out of this just fine. As fine as any politician can in the current environment anyway. He’s currently tacking well to the left of the Dems on populist issues, so at this point there’s no reason for them to even bother to show up. It remains to be seen if there will be a government left for him to be elected president of, however. They might have to hold a big yard sale and then finally just let the Chinese, Russians, and whoever else shows up have everything that’s left after that. Might be some good bargains to be had, provided you’re lucky enough to be holding any still functioning currency!
Trump is fucked.
Waiting to see what will happen in two weeks is already known to be the action of a fool and that can’t be changed. It already came out of the Orange Piehole.
Trump is a walking zombie.
If Trump got it and in his recovery aquired empathy that would be very good.
acquired
He’s not f#kked. Was Lincoln f#kkd after the Union lost the Battle of Fredrickburg? Yes, but he recovered.
Brh
No, the level of Trump incompetence has gotten too extreme. There is no recovery from this. People are going to die in larger numbers every day now. For years oligarchic excess was tolerated. Bellies were full and health was good. Now things have changed and the orange parasite will be expelled.
JHK:
“The congressional Democrats are trying to jam one deal-killer after another into the “relief” bill on purpose to make sure the picture gets worse so as to deep-six Mr. Trump. The net effect is more uncertainty and a greater loss of trust in our government’s competence per se.”
Are you KIDDING? The GOP is all about supporting the Banks, Wall St, and all the ‘deep state’ cronies to fund stock buy-backs and bonuses. While the Dems are hardly being ‘cornucopious’ towards the middle & working classes, they are NOT so stupid as to support the hilarious ‘bailout’ bill put up by the Senate.
So we do nothing instead. Good move! I am sure the public will appreciate a government that is incapable of governing.
I’m scanning through the Dem’s 1119 page “Take Responsibility for Workers and Families Act”, 100 pages in and so far I’ve only seen additional funding for government agencies, including the “New Markets Venture Capital Program”. If there’s anything in there for struggling citizens, it’s starting to look like an afterthought.
Some welcome perspective…
No, there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that Covid-19 is the deadliest global pandemic humankind has ever faced, and that we have no choice but to cancel everything, confine everyone inside their home, wreck the entire global economy, force working class people even further into debt, pour trillions into the investment banks, cancel elections, censor the Internet, and otherwise implement a global police state.
But what if it wasn’t? Just hypothetically. What if this wasn’t the deadliest global pandemic humankind has ever faced? (I’m just posing the question as a thought experiment, so please don’t report me to the WHO, or the CDC, or FEMA, or whoever.) What if this new coronavirus was just another coronavirus like all the other coronaviruses that people die from (or with) all the time? What if the fact that this one is “new” didn’t really mean all that much, or possibly anything at all, because coronaviruses are always mutating, and every year there are a lot of new variants?
Relax, OK? I know this one is different, and totally unlike anything ever encountered by virologists in the history of virology. Remember, this is just a thought experiment. These are just hypothetical questions.
Here’s another hypothetical question. What if all the scary statistics we’ve been seeing (e.g., the death rates, the explosion of “cases,” etc.) weren’t unquestionable scientific facts, but rather, were, like other statistics, based on things like sample groups, and dependent on a host of factors and variables, which you kind of need to know to make sense of anything?
Say, for example, you tested everyone that died of acute respiratory failure on a given day in your Italian hospital, and you discovered that, let’s say, five of those patients had been infected with Covid-19. So you feed that number to the WHO, and they add it to the “total deaths” count, regardless of whether the folks who died had terminal cancer, or heart disease, or had also been infected with the common flu, or some other type of coronavirus. That would probably skew your “death” count, wouldn’t it?
Or, say you wanted to test for the virus to keep track of all the “active cases” and generate an infection rate, but you can’t test hundreds of millions of people, because no one has that many tests So, you test everyone who turns up sick, or thinks they’re sick and demands to be tested, or who touched someone sick who you already tested (though you’re not even sure that your test is accurate) and you come up with, let’s say, ten positive results. So you feed that number to the WHO, and they add it to the “active cases” count, regardless of the fact that everyone knows the real number is likely twenty times higher.
OK, so now you take your “active cases” number and your “total deaths” number and you do the math (keeping in mind that your “total deaths” include those cancer and heart failure people), and you end up grossly underestimating your “infection rate” and “active cases,” and grossly overestimating your “death rate” and the number of “total deaths.”
Just hypothetically, you understand. I am not suggesting this is actually happening. I certainly don’t want to get censored by Facebook (or accidentally censored by some totally innocuous technical glitch) for posting “Covid misinformation,” or tempt the Wikipedia “editors” to rush back to my Wikipedia page and label me a dangerous “conspiracy theorist” … or, you know, get myself preventatively quarantined.
It probably won’t come to that anyway, i.e., rounding up “infected persons,” “possibly infected persons,” and “disruptive” and “uncooperative persons,” and quarantining us in, like, “camps,” or wherever. All this state of emergency stuff, the suspension of our civil rights, the manipulation of facts and figures, the muzzling of dissent, the illegal surveillance, governments legislating by decree, the soldiers, the quarantines, and all the rest of it … all these measures are temporary, and are being taken for our own good, and purely out of an “abundance of caution.”
I mean, it’s not like the global capitalist empire was right in the middle of a War on Populism (a war that it has been losing up to now) and wanted to take this opportunity to crank up some disaster capitalism, terrorize the global public into a frenzy of selfish and irrational panic, and just flex its muscles to remind everybody what could happen if we all keep screwing around by voting for “populists,” tearing up Paris, leaving the European Union, and otherwise interfering with the forward march of global capitalism.
No, it certainly isn’t like that. It is an actual plague that is probably going to kill you and your entire family if you don’t do exactly what you’re told. So, forget this little thought experiment, and prepare yourself for global lockdown. It probably won’t be so bad … unless they decide they need to run the part of exercise where it goes on too long, and people get squirrelly, and start rebelling, and looting, and otherwise not cooperating, and the military is eventually forced to deploy those Urban Unrest Suppression Vehicles, and those Anti-Domestic-Terror Forces, and …
OK, I’m getting all worked up again. I’d better take my pills and get back to Facebook. Oh, and … I should probably check up on Idris! And see if Berlin has gone to “Level 3,” in which case I’ll need to find whatever online application I need to fill out in order to leave my house.
https://consentfactory.org/2020/03/18/covid-19-global-lockdown/
The pro-Chinese fascist agitprop officers at CNN & MSNBC have been feverish this last week with anti-Trump, racist identarian/SJW fanaticism..read an article recently on MSNBC about how “white supremacists” have been plotting using coronavirus.. and how “racist” it is to call this the Wuhan Virus, or Chinese Virus.. at CNN there is an article on how maybe “Sinophobia” will lead to US downfall..
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/22/opinions/sinophobia-coronavirus-response-liu/index.html
You can’t make this shit up… you guys don’t understand.. the Kungflu ain’t from China, and if you believe that you are a racist.. it was probably all angry white people who cooked it up in Trump’s America..
Don’t know about any of the racist hysteria. I try to tune that out altogether. But the virus almost certainly did come out Ft. Detrick, MD, before it traveled to China via Canada. Trump likely had nothing to do with any of it whatsoever, this being a straight up deep state operation like 9-11. Precise goals yet unknown, but the broad strokes are not hard to figure out.
Don’t know what the significance of this is, but out of the 11 Asoka Virus deaths so far in Ct, 1 over 90 years old, 8 over 80, 1 at 79, and one man 50 years old who also had cancer. Draw your own conclusions.
Brh
Significance and conclusion, hmmmm.
How many deaths were there last week?
That’s 11 total as of tonight.
If anybody needs TP Trump does. Trump is full of shit. I am listening to the Trump Chump show now. His daily news conference. The ignorance he has shown is sufficient to have a 7th grader repeat a grade.
This republican government needs to go. They don’t understand this pandemic and the problem for them is A FUCK OF A LOT OF PEOPLE DO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. Time for Trumptopia to end.
K-Dog for president.
K-Dog
What’s your platform?
It will have to differ from Sanders or Warren’s platform, because they both were recently put up for scrutiny, and found wanting. Even Dems rejected their progressive agenda; in a general election they would have been trounced.
Brh
Universal health care and a commitment to full employment. $15.00 an hour minimum wage. End the military industrial control of government and close overseas bases but not all of them. Nationalize fracking and create a new department of energy that will force transition to fossil fuel alternatives. Close the borders to anyone who whats to just ‘show up’. Force localization of industry and restructure the globalist experiment so it represents the needs of people and not oligarchs. Put people and families first while encouraging small families via tax benefits. So as to avoid the necessity of stopping all pesticide use an aggressive curtailment of unnecessary use combined with pesticide free zones to preserve the biosphere while pesticide free agricultural practices are adopted to get the nation through the transition. Establish a department of sustainability. Put an end to student loans.
Bernie will be an advisor. I don’t care where Liz goes but she won’t be working for me. She can’t be trusted.
Dog’s platform
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The problem is, you believe human nature is different than it is.
Whom will you chose for VP? Elrond is Canadian, Cargill is Australian, Majella is a New Zealander, Green Alba a Scottish lass, and Evelyn has all those court ordered anger management classes to attend.
Cornell West
Cornel West. I had one to many l’s.
He was in at least one of the Matrix movies. Smart guy, terrible teeth, be sure to work on that.
National dental care is part of universal heath care. Your money ain’t worth nothing and your grills is for free.
So sad he’s been too poor all these years to get dental work.
A person should be able to smile. It’s part of being human.
So sad he’s been too poor all these years to get dental work. – hmuller
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The big gap is his trade mark, his brand.
Here’s an odd headline from ZeroHedge;
David Tepper: “My Balls Are In My Jockstrap,” As Stocks Could Drop Another 15%
For those who don’t quite know how to interpret that, the article provides a helpful explanation.
“A fan of colorful language, during the decade-plus post-crisis bull market that ended only recently, Tepper developed a catchphrase: going ‘balls to the wall’ when betting on record market gains.
Now, he says, his “balls” are resting in his jockstrap.
“Sometimes you hear me say “Balls To The Wall….Well, now, they are in my jockstrap,” Tepper said.”
Presumably, Mr Tepper will inform the public if the day arrives when his balls are once more outside their proper restraints and swinging at the walls.
He already made that announcement when he bought the Panthers and a soccer team. Like Cramer, he is playing with the house’s money. Ackman cried on CNBC too day ago, now he’s buy,buy,buy. A huge bear market rally is possible, and soon ,so they will be praised.
Reality getting ready to set in. A friend said he had three orders cancellled today. Another potential buyer cancelled today. His friend had his family’s salon shut down today. Six more unemployed. Brother-in-law sent employees home today and having orders cancelled.
Hope in one hand, and shi”……..(no, the story changes this time. Finding enough food to make you take a shit will be a luxuary.) Govt. cheese, please.
Seriously, There are probably 20 million out of work today. Government mules will pull the cart. Stay out of debt. Crickets……….
Speaking of bear market rallies. People remember that in the fall of 1929 the US stock market crashed. But few remember that it recouped half those losses DEC 1929 thru APR 1930. With benefit of hindsight they call that a bull trap. The downward trend then resumed resulting in an 89% decline peak to trough (summer 1932).
Of course, back then they didn’t have a pandemic shutting down business, so now is arguably a worse time. We are nowhere near a bottom in stocks. Proven guru Charles Nenner is predicting DOW 5000 by the end of 2021 (and years of dreary low levels thereafter). There’s no V shaped recovery this time.
Has the viral infection reached your neighborhood? Two doors down and across the street, mid sixties, semi-retired, guitarist part time. Local man known in the community. Our local beaches were open until yesterday. Thousands of spring breakers have moved through our community during the exposure and incubation period.
all who have the “we must save the money” seem to have missed two foundational points
The poor will always be with us
You cannot serve two masters
ask not for whom the bells toll
“Perchance he for whom this bell tolls may be so ill, as that he knows not it tolls for him; and perchance I may think myself so much better than I am, as that they who are about me, and see my state, may have caused it to toll for me, and I know not that.” 17th Century
My prayer tonight is that we may all be stricken with a severe case of empathy, a strain of which is incurable.
Well there it is. It’s not real until it crawls up your ass. Oh there will be many who rue the day they downplayed this virus. The nurses at that nursing home said they were all stunned by its lethality. 24 hours it took you out. Trump was spewing more happy talk today. Said we’re causing more harm with the economy shut down. People are going to start killing themselves. Boy he wants the good ole days back. Stock market at records. Ancient history. Now it’s just the V word. New York has 500 ventilators and they need 30,000. Oh this is going to get ugly.
It is going to get very ugly. Trump does not know what he is supposed to do at the end of two weeks. This means the two weeks will be wasted but the economy will still be wrecked. Wrecked for nothing. Yet America still will not think to pick up a pitchfork. KDFP
That chicken smells delicious. Oh, it’s my own hand that’s cooking. It’s no longer attached to my body. The cannibals must have given me something for the pain. Or else I’m in shock. It’s gonna really start hurting any minute now…..
“My prayer tonight is that we may all be stricken with a severe case of empathy, a strain of which is incurable.”
Wm,
I’m sorry to say that empathy can be cured…it can be beaten out of you.
Again, I’m sorry.
Remember poor Winston’s, “Do it to Julia”. What horror. Ultimately the only way to be completely moral is to become a Saint.
Nicholas Owen, “Little John”, was a tiny man but a gifted craftsman. He built hideaways for Priests hiding from the English authorities when Catholicism was outlawed. He was betrayed and entered into his passion. Tortured for two days, he never gave up the whereabouts of any of his hidden chambers or any priests who might be within them. Finally tiring of their fruitless sport, they put him to death.
Saint Martyr Nicholas Owen, pray for us.
Strangely I am feeling a little lighter, almost happier, as Reality starts to intrude. I seem to get the flu every 10 years or so and I’m due. I’ve never worried about the flu killing me and I’m not looking forward to that first dry cough and feeling a little hot… but I am appreciating more “solidarity?” with my fellow humans. I’ve been feeling I was in a Sixth Sense movie…..
I may feel it too, but Trump still can’t be my daddy.
I would not even want him as a funny uncle.
This point in time marks a juncture in terms of your writing, Jim. Not many writers ever attain vindication in their lifetime, but I, for one, think that this COVID-19 Zombie Social Distancing Apocalypse is most certain to cause the proverbial straw to break Wall Street’s proverbial back.
Trump is claiming that this will not render main street business dead and that the economy will come back again much as Fuld thought he could hold out another trading day.
I grasp your thesis vis-à-vis a world made by hand to the extent of nomadic survivalist themed living, but I can’t envision a return to Edwardian agriculture due to the obvious fallout that will manifest from the new world disorder of nomadic living which will be protracted chaos IMHO.
I love how you are actually a real visionary futurist like Alvin Toffler, Huxley, et cetera. And I fully relate to you when you mention the fearful realization of the future your have perceived coming true as this VOIVID-19 writes the future on the wall of Western civilization before our eyes.
Existentially, I think we are really in for a long drawn out protracted really messy decoupling that will foster reactionary Hobbesian Brute fascistic era of mayhem. Much of the world will be destroyed via thermonuclear hot conflagration which will render possible futures moot due to nuclear winter.
I can’t envision a world made by hand without the nuclear winter. You still have that hope thingy, eh. The obverse of capitalistic growth on orders of magnitudes of monetary heroin asset inflation has a corollary of deflation and a greater depression than the Great Depression which translates into nihilism without the irrational exuberance, or credit facilities brought about by organized capital.
Capital will, and must be, confiscated & aggregated for the greater good of the whole in a raging anarchistic environ. Order arranged via nationalism is being bandied about by Paul Craig Roberts & Stockman right now.
Communism is the only way to go when honest arbiter capitalism morphs into ruined casino capitalism rife with frauds on top of frauds piled to precariousness.
You are kind of like a Shaman like myself, Jim. I can understand the weight of the stress behind the vision of a likely future, or failure to find one in the midst of deflation of USD and Fractional Reserve Banking empire.
Keep well & stay isolated. Listen to Marc Lipsitch at Harvard for protocol & forward guidance. He is the top USA professor IMHO.
Cheers, Robert
Sure, there wasn’t any fraud in the Soviet Union, and in Cuba, China and Venezuela everything is on the level. No ‘fraud upon fraud’ in those communist utopias.
I know, l know, this time it will be different. This time around it will be tenured Marxist bullshitters and true believers from Harvard and Princeton setting up the gulags, not some ignorant former peasants from Kiev.
Trump made clear Monday his preference to open the country back up for business regardless of what doctors say.
Peter Hitchens, the good brother, agrees with Tate: Let Nature and Nature’s God sort it out. Let them die. Otherwise, the proposed Cure will be the End of us as a Civilization.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8138675/PETER-HITCHENS-shutting-Britain-REALLY-right-answer.html
SSL on the other hand, wants to cherish human life. Is this not Woman’s Glory? And is not God in love with His creations, Eternity with the productions of time (Blake)?
Both are valid. What is the Higher Third here? I’m afraid I cannot see it, at least not yet. They seem mutually exclusive. I’m not used to not knowing, but to honor the question until you do is the Path to Knowledge.
What utter tripe.
No it isn’t! It is a vexing problem that is tearing our society apart if you would spend the time to consider it. We have to continue to work so that we may eat. But then we must protect the ones we love from the invisible menace as well. Finding balance between the two is what we must do unless as Janos says there is some third and better way. Do you not have a more coherent thought on the matter?
She’s such a destructive person, but because there’s so many like here, she thinks she’s normal.
Put Maj and I in a room with a traditional Maori: He and I would be agreeing on all the basics in no time – talking over her head. She would be utterly amazed. She’d have nothing to add because we wouldn’t share her premises or her, ours.
Traditional people simply don’t see the world the way vicious Liberals do. That Liberals worship the non-Whites ones doesn’t change this. They worship them but don’t listen to them.
Majella is one of those faux Maori, she probably doesn’t even have any of the traditional tattoos applied in the traditional manner, i.e. with excruciating pain.
More utter tripe.
Listen to me gentlemen. I do not support Trump, but he is going to win.
You liberals understand everything but human psychology. I know, because I’m one of you.
In times of turmoil, you need a strong leader. Trump still projects the aura of strong leadership, and none of the Democratic candidates do. Therefore, Trump will win.
You liberals are too much in the modern world. You believe in the perfectibility, the progress of things. I don’t. We humans are basically the same old walking chimps banding together and hurling spears at each other.
I don’t buy it. Trump is pulling the biggest public boner in human history and you who claim to be an opponent is saying he is still going to win. Get real. It is possible Trump may win. People really might be that stupid. But the thing is, we crossed 100 extra dead a day yesterday. Every day the number dead a day will grow.
This ain’t no disco. This isn’t fooling around. This is not life on a Reality TV show. People are going to die and their loved ones are going to figure out Trump was only ever playing them.
Trump is a sociopath who would let a million die rather than declare martial law for a few months because declaring martial law won’t get him reelected. It would only defeat the virus. Trump is killing people for a strong economy that will re-elect him. To get re-elected the golden narcissist will let a million extra die.
I wish I was making this up. I’m not.
KDFP
But have you been paying attention to the DNC front runner?
Biden is a mess and barely knows where he is now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xy5uJKrjo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA-GoeFGyIc
Time to put this old guy in a home.
Here are some numbers for you. 36 million flue cases with 22,000 deaths VS 40,000 Covid 19 cases with 500 deaths to date, Give or take with the latest figures. Duh
Long pawnshops and brothels. Massive unemployment. You just got your last paycheck. Watch Craigslist. People getting ready to unload everything. A farm equipment auction last week had $80,000 tractors selling for $29,000. Watch the price of used Harley Davidsons, too. Another great indicator.
Ride on.
“Long pawnshops and brothels”
Vinnie,
I’ve owned a pawnshop, but not a brothel. I heard that the brothel is a better business;
“…You got it…you sell it, and you STILL got it! Such a deal!”
That’s the way a usufruct works. Now there’s a word one might expect to read in a JHK essay!
Al,
Well, usufruct requires no destruction…there must be SOME wear and tear…maybe IRS would allow a depletion allowance?
You have an interesting background, E.
You appear to be what used to be known as a ‘racontuer’.
C’est proche mon brave mais tu l’as raté, il s’ecrit <>
Close brh, but the word is spelled ‘raconteur’.
How is the Pawn business?
Malthuss,
When I carried the license, the State allowed you to make a decent living, albeit a heavily regulated one. We were audited every year by the State Division of Banks. Interest allowed equated to 3% simple interest per month. Loans were for a 6 month period, with an automatic extension, if the customer paid the accrued interest before default. No customer could be loaned an aggregate of more than $5000. Loans of over $100 required a registered letter sent before default.
All reasonable laws. After I sold the business, the State rescinded usury laws, and many shops became predatory. Glad I’m no longer involved.
There were only 12 shops in the state when I was in operation…me and two others in the whole of Southern Oregon.
Harley as a company has been in a long down slide.
otherwise
check what Health Official posted,
https://www.teaparty247.org/ny-health-officials-told-residents-to-gather-for-chinese-new-year-in-defiance-of-coronavirus-that-ended-well/
Journal of the Plague Year. 23 Mar 2020
One trip to the Cancer Center on Friday. New policy does not allow ANY visitors or caregivers in the building…only patients. Dropped wife off an then on to Wally World (I know I was to avoid the place, but habits die hard). Interesting observation…eggs, paper products, mostly gone. The meat section, however, had empty bins in their center coolers filled with…cucumbers and pineapples…heard later that some meat packing companies are closed, hence empty shelves.
On, then to Cash and Carry, the wholesale provider to restaurants in the area. 50 lb bags of flour mostly absent. ZERO beans, of any type, same for rice. Buddy there told me that trucks are arriving daily for re-supply, but items ordered are not necessarily delivered…they get what they get…the distributors are running thin in certain areas.
Hospital visit on Monday…this AM. Was advised that hospital was closed and to enter at the Emergency Room for the appointment. Wrong information, hospital open for business and no masks being worn. Wound nurse stated that the cases of the CV in Coos County remain at zero…agreed that lack of testing probably is driving THAT statistic.
Heard from a truck driver that Washington State has removed downtime hours from the truckers who supply food to the supermarkets…drive as many hours as able, and I understood that the weight limits of the trucks are being overlooked. Both seem reasonable, under the circumstances.
Phone instructions for the hospital visit tomorrow, the large regional hospital in Coos Bay. Advised that, from this date, only patients are to be allowed in the facility…no relatives, caregivers, visitors of any stripe remain in the parking lot…again, makes sense.
Will rain here for the next week…peaches are blooming, and the bees will not fly in the rain…. Peas have been planted, asparagus is coming up and being eaten…tomato seeds planted in their flats. We are in full compliance with self-quarantine protocol…very easy to do as long as hospital visits are not mandated.
Fox news reports that there are increasing incidents of people failing to observe basic CV guidelines. Police in New York becoming more…proactive towards scoff-laws and the socially irresponsible. Police being sent to small home gatherings where parties and social gatherings are evident. Warnings issued…for now. Washington State and Florida and New York were mentioned.
NY official says hug a chinese,
https://www.teaparty247.org/ny-health-officials-told-residents-to-gather-for-chinese-new-year-in-defiance-of-coronavirus-that-ended-well/
A very meaningful event, I hope everything will go well happy wheels
How does the virus spread?
Truckers.
18 wheelers
How do I know? I just went to look at the map.
Click here to see the map.
You can see the little red dots from new cases are following interstates. The dots line up. In time the above pattern will be lost as cases spread evenly across the land but right now there is a very clear pattern. First COVID flew in landing at multiple locations. Once in it found its way into interstate trucking and spread across the land. The cross contamination between the airline and trucking industries likely happened at airports.
Somebody tell Trump (LOL).
KDFP
Yes, starve people to death. That will stop the plague. KDFP
Those fucking people! They’re THE WORST!
“Truckers.
18 wheelers”
Dog,
Movement of personal vehicles along the big slabs will also contribute to the spread. What is seemingly indigenous to the trucking industry is the transport of dead hookers….
Truckers aren’t flying in and out of airports. That would mostly be tourists, business men, sales reps, etc. When they land, they would most likely travel by interstate routes. Somebody tell K-Dog. (LOL)
By late afternoon, a middling crumble in the equities. Gold and silver are zooming back up. The congressional Democrats are trying to jam one deal-killer after another into the “relief” bill on purpose to make sure the picture gets worse so as to deep-six Mr. Trump.
I think it’s the Republicans that are playing politics.
This is supposed to be a relief package for working families – not a corporate bailout to save the wealth of fat-cat CEOs and wealthy stockholders.
In the Global Financial Crisis, most of the bailout welfare went to save banks and their stockholders – it most definitely did NOT go to assist the homeowners who faced foreclosure and mammoth financial disaster.
Not one fraudulent GFC banker lost their bonus – let alone went to jail. Hopefully the Democrats have learnt from the errors of 2008-09 – and at last they are playing hard-ball for once.
The money must go to where it’s needed most – to the unemployed and the under-employed, and to a million SMALL businesses – not to the already wealthy of Wall Street – just because they donate to Republican lawmakers.
Here’s a hint. Stop thinking in terms of left and right. This exists several levels above all that petty partisan nonsense. You’re doing their dirty work for them!
What conspiracy mumbo-jumbo are you shill for this time?
Are we going down the Deep State path, or is it Wall Street … or maybe you’re thinking about good old George Soros, and all them “International Globalists”? Or are we jumping all the usual suspects and heading straight to the Illuminati?
All the mockery you spew out won’t change the fact that you are an ignorant, rude, horse’s ass, Cargill!
Speak of rude, ignorant horse’s arses:
hmuller
March 25, 2020 at 5:20 pm #
Majella is one of those faux Maori, she probably doesn’t even have any of the traditional tattoos applied in the traditional manner, i.e. with excruciating pain.
I’m not a Maori, hmuller. I have no ‘tau moko’ but a good friend – a Mari – of mine does. It was, according to him, not excruciatingly painful.
Janis (and your small cohort of White ‘Separatists’) – it appears the NZ Government ( not dysfunctional!) has heard about how ‘diversity’ pisses you off. It has published this PAA especially for your annoyance. Please count how many Maori appear?
https://youtu.be/HhWSouRJF14
Extra credit to anyone who can name the last guy (who advises against TP scoring…
It’s extremely quiet around here Maj – too quiet – where have all the Seppos gone – have they succumbed to the Chinese thing?
Lol@ ‘seppos’ my Australian uncle explained that one to me. I wonder who’ll be first to ask what it means???
Where have all the Seppos gone,
Long time passing….
Where have all the Seppos gone,
Long time ago…
Where have all the Seppos gone,
Trump’s Corona’s picked them every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn…?
…
Why are you here? Why not return to NZ, where they have a ‘functional government’?
BRH:
Seppo….
Well we all know Aussie love sticking a long straw in the Seppo and sucking out all the decomposing clingers before the honey wagon comes along and takes all your treats.
The sewage holders ain’t Americans per say just the far left leaning scum be they American or other.
@etal
“There still will be”…
Oh, for fuck sake, James, there will be NOTHING unless you’re in the top rated tens of thousands or in the selected hundreds of thousands of servants. Thermodynamics.
I am impressed.
An entire industrialized human society being lowered on silk.
All this way so far
And hardly a whimper.
I cannot begin to grasp all the complexities,
so amazingly orchestrated.
Fucking Awesome
But not a single heartbeat among them all.
I get tickled to imagine what black swans may await her royal highness when the poles shift.
~toktomi~
I always imagined a static plan – ah don know wy.
This thing is dynamic, probably in multiple dimensions but for sure in time. Note the adjustment in the timing of the passage of the relief bill by Congress – brought to you by a faux partisan disagreement on details.
That had me stumped with my static old brain. Couldn’t figure out the crazy script. 🙂 It ain’t a script; it’s an algorithm.
Amazing, this thing
And sad for an old Neanderthal.
~toktomi~
No takers? Taika Waititi…the guy who saved that Star Trek series shitshow.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taika_Waititi
Oops. Not Star Trek…that Star Wars spin-off.
The Mandylorian…
A seppo is a Maori Fag?
Australian ‘rhyming slang’ Seppo is short for Septic Tank = Yank
Here’s Ann Coulter on the Chinee and globalism:
https://www.havasunews.com/opinion/ann-coulter-what-globalism-got-us-cheap-tvs-expensive-flu/article_12e580ae-6ccb-11ea-b2a0-ebabdea1f134.html
Help, I’m tangled up with these Chinee rats and I can’t get free!
Who off shored all the shit in the first place? Ask not for whom the globalist bell tolls, it tolls for our asses. Thanks globalists, can we have another? Globalists: Why, thanks for asking. YES. YOU. CAN!
Who off shored all the shit in the first place?
Why it was us … we all wanted cheap TVs, cheap shoes, cheap everything. Can’t blame Obama for that one … look in a mirror.
Bull shit. When prices went down due to globalization, so did wages. Not to mention the disappearing job market. Bring manufacturing back to the USA.
IMPEACH TRUMP NOW!
For not using the DPA. If he opens things up, other remedies are available.
Sure wish you folks would make up your mind.
Six months ago Trump was a fascist and was going to become a dictator after he took over the US.
Now, you berate him for not wanting to give ultimate power to the government.
No, he keeps the power to himself when he should be spending it on the public good. He is using the tragedy for his own purposes.
Trump needs to go. TNTG
I think that 80% of the population has to get infected to build up herd immunity, which is about 250 million people. The hospitalization rate for the virus is 20%, so that’s about 50 million. There are only about 1 million hospital beds in the US. Maybe keep everyone locked down for 18 months to give the virus time to weaken naturally? But it may actually strengthen in the next wave in the Fall, like the Spanish Flu. There are many parallels to the Spanish Flu of 1918.
This experience will reveal the true nature of people and society.
Or, it might not. Either way, the lockdown is paranoia gone viral. The internet fueled, MSM moderated, speculation and hysteria is the real problem here.
Herd immunity means you starve the virus for more hosts. Painful, but with the lack of intelligence apparent now, it may be the pandemic ender.
Pucker, you come up with some funny stuff but could you please refrain from ignorant speculations. Your speculations are more contagious than COVID and could give people wrong ideas. Please remember that relative to you most people are mentally challenged.
I think sufficient herd immunity exists at 60%, not 80% but how about we find out. I did:
“Experts estimate between 40% to 70% of the population will need to be immune to halt its rapid spread.”
Trump is talking about herd immunity because he is a turd. Turd immunity.
Turd immunity will be achieved when sufficient inaction by Trump to game the crisis to his own advantage infects the populous to a sufficient level to stop the spread of the virus.
Wall Street defined the ethos, Puck. It’s kill, or be killed, last I checked, man.
RW
Do you remember the one-holer toilet in the Men’s restroom in the passenger waiting room of the Guangzhou train station that had to accommodate thousands of daily passengers? The one-holer toilet was so overwhelmed that there was shit everywhere and the train station management just threw-in-the-towel and let the water overflow onto the floor in a desperate hope that the shit and piss would get carried away down the auxiliary sewage system.
This may be analogous to the US hospital system confronting a tidal wave of Covid 19 virus patients because of the obtuse, nincumpoop Americans who won’t change their thinking and behavior in order to slow down the spread of the virus?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tXgBj-UWSx8
A nice shit story first thing in the morning is always nice. Thanks, Puck!
The battle lines are drawn and the sides are beginning to dig in:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/24/trumps-push-to-shorten-the-coronavirus-shutdown-proves-the-captain-is-flying-blind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_hD9ddeGhE
Lockdown fever is appearing more and more to be the whole point in all this CV hysteria. Crash the economy in yet another transparently thin ploy to smear Trump and elect real life Walking Dead Zombie Creepy Joe Biden. Of course there’s considerable other benefits as well…
Of course there’s the still emerging Chinese hysteria as well. Strangely, no mention of Deep State involvement in this mess at all. Wonder why that is? Guess I’ll just have to read better news sources, as per my usual.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/what-are-the-wet-markets-coronavirus
I’ll be waiting for that shoe to drop as soon as the lockdown fever subsides. So many boogeymen under so many beds these days! Oh fucking my, what WILL we do? We need a HERO! Who will be our HERO?
You all have fun, now, hear? I’m going out and live a perfectly normal day today, albeit with the added pleasure of working from home. Thanks, hysterics!
Ellipsis, I looked at your links. That link from Fox news if you look at the third picture the vendor has an apron on with the picture of a dog named Keith on it. Very strange. I think it is her menu. K-Dog better stay in his dog house!
Sequestered in place. I am not going anywhere. Thanks for the heads up.
Yeah, looks like it was added on. Why would a Chinee have a picture of a dog on his vest, much less a dog named Keith? A shot across your bow if ever there were.
Good news everyone. Tom and Rita are doing just fine, thank you very much. From Tom:
“Hey folks. Good News: One week after testing Positive, in self-isolation, the symptoms are much the same. No fever but the blahs,” Hanks wrote on both Twitter and Instagram at the time. “Folding the laundry and doing the dishes leads to a nap on the couch. Bad news: My wife @ritawilson has won 6 straight hands of Gin Rummy and leads by 201 points.”
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tom-hanks-gives-2-weeks-124320373.html
You may all return to your regularly schedule panicking now. And by all means, watch out for them blahs!
201..the number of the Bill Gates-John Hopkins ‘run thru’—he is hiding in plain sight. Pizza Tom.
According to Time Magazine:
https://time.com/5610878/2018-2019-flu-season/
2018-2019 Flu Deaths: 42.9 million infected. 61,200 deaths Death %= 1.4%
Johns Hopkins ConVid-19 figures ; 7:41 AM EDT 3/24/2020:
46,450 reported cases 593 deaths Death % 1.3%
Attack Sub will be regularly posting this
Good sleuthing, AS
It puts things in perspective.
Anybody who reads pirate books from The BookBarn is aces in my books, BRH
You’ve got a decimal point in the wrong place: 61,200 deaths out of 42.9M infected is 0.14%.
Though I also agree with you that COVID ain’t all it’s cracked up to be.
Hey Attack Sub, your cipherin’ needs work. 42.9 million infected with 61,200 mortality is actually .14%. One tenth of the mortality of the Asoka flu.
The Trump ‘Hate-O-Meter’ is overheating under the strain of K’Dog’s barrage of over the top, apocalyptic posts. Rivits are popping out … blue smoke appears … scoured bearings screeching … watchout, its gonna blow!!!
10! 10! 10! Hate-O-Meter spits out a stream of old style computer punch cards, all with the score of 10, 10, 10 … its breaking down, overwhelmed by hate … can’t take anymore, it’ll have to be shut down for now, and sent out for repair.
Brh
that’s good!
Funny got a chuckle out of me.
It got a chuckle out of me. I’ll not rest on my laurels. The murderous idiot needs to go.
Pull the plug out of the wall outlet and then stick it back in to see if it reboots, BRH.
RW
China is still basically Locked Down. Compare the quarantine measures in China to those now in place in the US.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lb-zyqacN0
In Ct, the Governor shut down businesses that are not ‘Essential Services’. The problem is, everything except barbershop, nail salons and bars, has been designated as an essential service.
Brh
Yep! I heard that they are finally going to lift the lockdown order on Wuhan on April 8. After four days of no new cases, there was a new case reported in Wuhan yesterday, according to the CCP.
That is EXACTLY what the government has done. After the 2013 fiasco (furlough due to budget) magically, everyone has become essential! Therefore, during a shut down, basically all that shuts down is the National Parks which is quite sad indeed. The government is certainly the sickest, most corrupt and manipulative of all.
The failure of Western Civ?
So, assuming you’re running after you’re nominated and serving after you win, KDOG, I have the following questions:
1) What sacred book will you place your right hand on when you’re sworn in?
2) How thick will the bulletproof lectern that you’ll be behind be?
3) Who will do the estimating of your inaugural crowd size?
4) When do you anticipate your first “pot summit”
5) Got any plans to make a global wide American Apology tour?
6) Got a first Lady, Man, Partner, Hand?
7) Assassinated or Impeached?
When do you anticipate your first pot summit? 🙂
That is definitely a critically important question.
1) The Bible. I’ll respect tradition and I’m fine with JC.
2) 6 inch bank vault steel.
3) The doom crowd is about 30K strong in the whole country. That is far less than 1% and only half of them will come to my inauguration. The rest of the nation prefers bread and games so I’ll have inaugurations crowds made up using deep fakes before the election.
4) The swearing-in ceremony.
5) My country right or wrong. That part does not change. What kind of pussy would make an apology tour? Not me. I’ll apologize for stuff I did but not for what I did not approve of doing in the first place. I’ll make dickweeds grovel an apologize to me.
6) Mrs. Dog loves me very much when she is not pissed at me and thinking about divorce. She has been thinking about divorce for 40 years. I suspect that nonsense will stop when she gets to work re-decorating the White House. You will like the changes.
7) Likely blown up. Here one minute gone the next. I hope I can do some good before I am gone. The thought of blinking out is strange.
There was a Prepper who made a YouTube video about all of the practical uses of storing whiskey and other grain alcohols. All of the practical uses involved drinking it. His only caveat was that it may not be a good idea to store grain alcohol if you’re an alcoholic. What could go wrong?
🙂
It seems that some of you CFNers may enjoy my previous Guangzhou train station shit story. So here’s another one….
What was the biggest pile of shit that you’ve ever seen, apart from trips to the Zoo and the RussiaGate and the Meuller Investigation?
The biggest pile of shit that I’ve ever seen was that huge pile of crap the size of a bowling ball placed on the floor right next to the squat toilet in the Hong Hom Train Station in Hong Kong. It had the apparent consistency of black tar or Tootsie Roll and emitted a horrible, dull, stultifying, choking smell that literally gagged me and forced me to promptly egress the Men’s restroom.
LOL what the hell!!?? Did an elephant get into that train station lol?? You and your experiences!!
let’s not…..
There is a lot of credible reporting that China isn’t over the Kungflu yet. There are advantages being a power elite in a fascist country, like kicking out foreign journalists, and restricting the freedom of speech.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/life-after-lockdown-has-china-really-beaten-coronavirus
The pro-fascist CNN takes what the Chinese gov’t reports on face value:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/asia/coronavirus-wuhan-lockdown-lifted-intl-hnk/index.html
the last line seals the deal:
“As a Wuhan resident, I feel the risk is still high. What if there is an imported case? We’ll have to stay home again,” he said.
LOL.. they don’t need any imported cases, as the Kungflu is still alive and well in Wuhan
I agree. China reported 78 new cases yesterday. I don’t believe those numbers anyhow but it is marked increase from their usual 30 or 40 or so cases they have been throwing up there for the last two weeks. They also say that most of the cases are from foreigners. But I would have to disagree that CNN is pro-fascist. They support and work for global government. That is Communism.
The story behind the story is pretty interesting.. the Chinese gov’t kicked out WashPo, NYT, and the WSJ after the WSJ published a piece about “racially discriminatory” policies in China (LOL!).. is the CIA using wokesterism as a tool to create division inside China? hmmm.. idk. It sure has worked in this country though..
https://www.wsj.com/articles/news-publishers-urge-china-to-allow-reporters-to-remain-during-coronavirus-pandemic-11585052541?mod=hp_lead_pos3
KDFP
True fact in the banter SSL.
Cases of ‘foreigners’ bringing COVID back to China turn out to be Chinese citizens returning to China. They are reported as foreigners but their names are all Chinese. Chinese media pushes people to think COVID is a conspiracy by western powers to rid the world of the yellow peril. ‘Foreigners’ are just part of the toolbox.
Where would they get the idea that COVID is a western plot?
Practically China has arrested the infection but eliminating it completely may be impossible and a state of permanent vigilance is necessary. The reason is this virus is not a bioweapon and it is naturally zoonotic. A zoonotic virus is more dangerous than a bioweapon as far as elimination of it goes. A good bioweapon (oxymoron )would be targeted against people and could not jump into an animal and hide out to return later.
Here’s another one…
Jiang Zemin had this bizarre fascination with public toilets. Whenever he visited Western countries, he always paid particular attention to ascertaining the latest, and most advanced, Western shitter technology. I read in the book about Stalin that Molotov had a similar fixation with Western bathrooms.
They don’t seem to know what they’re dealing with? The US may become like Italy? During the 1918 Spanish Flu, the US media tried to bury the story of the Spanish Flu and to play down the severity of the pandemic. The public lost confidence in the media and the government because of the huge gulf between what the US media was saying about the pandemic and what the people were seeing with their own eyes.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pIPhMioPaeY
History needs to repeat!
KDFP
Thank you for this Pucker. It is nice to see someone else who sees the immorality and stupidly of Trump as clearly as I do. Trump is a sociopath as evil as a serial killer incapable of anything but penury considerations. Trump Needs To Go.
TNTG
K-Dog for president!
RW
Trump has decided that he’s not going to listen to what the doctors say re: grappling with the Covid 19 virus. He’ll instead follow the advice of Wall Street. What could go wrong?
Nothing can go wrong. Trump is covered. Trump is planning to convene a summit of Televangelists to cast the demon out if the Wall Street fix does not work. Cash Luna will not be invited to the summit of course. Only American Preachers can cast the demon out. We need a great thing so it has to be them.
You want cases of countries lying about their CONVID-19 Cases:
As of 10 AM EDT according to Johns Hopkins:
!
Australia: 2,044 cases 8 deaths. ROFLMFAO
New Zealand: 155 cases 0 Deaths OMFG!
Canada: 2,088 cases : 25 deaths. Whiskey Tango Foxtrott!
And what do those three countries have in common (apart from being members of the Commonwealth)? They are rich Western nations that care for their citizens, and have a national single-desk health scheme.
The low death rates are impressive.
Lies all lies made up statistics
Lies all lies made up statistics
Evidence for this?
The stats from those three countries are about as believable as the lies coming from China. You’re fortunate in Australian,comrade. You have plenty of barren, burned out space provided by the arsonist loons in your country to bury your dead.
You old cherry picker you.
You forgot Europe, the home of socialized medicine that thanks to the insufficiency of their systems never stood a chance.
I, for one, want an answer to why Italy and Iran and now NY State have become epicenters for the spread.
My guess, airline hubs from Everywhere. Airports, trains and ships are the Petri dishes.
Attacksub
These three countries are also amongst the lowest on the ‘corruption index’. (NZ – No.1, Australia & Canada,12th=)
Just because you don’t like a FACT, that’s no excuse to go full-blown MAGA on said FACT.
And then double-down on it later in the thread! How old are you? Why do you only believe what your Misleader-in-Chief tells you?
Why do you believe anything you post?
Most of what you post and appear to believe defies common sense,
Poor old benr, struggling with reality & punctuation.
None of the above how ever you do suffer from comprehension deficit.
A note to BRH,
You mentioned the model 19 S&W as a possible choice. This is not the weapon for you. The Model 19 is a mid-sized frame .357 of about the same weight and configuration of the model15, but with a bit heavier barrel.
Bad choice.
A man of your sensibilities and taste, a man who probably owns or at least fantasizes about Dodge Big Block 300+ HP fire breathing monsters…this type of man requires nothing less than the BIG IRON…an N frame model. A “Highway Patrolman” model, or perhaps upgrade to the well polished model 27…. 44 ounces of blue steel. The man who owns one is a man to be reckoned with…and admired by men and women alike. The “weak sisters” who carry the model 19 are know to defer to strong women, and squat when they pee.
Get the “hog leg”…you will not be disappointed.
And…the link;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_28
LoL
Good advice E., but that’s a little more gun than I’m looking for right now.
I’m assuming you carried something similar as a young police officer in Oakland.
I have a Silverado right now, which I don’t drive much, just on fishing trips, and buy a new Chevy sedan every few years. You’d probably be surprised to learn that more often than not I drive my wife’s Volvo to work 3 nights a week. This is Connecticut, after all.
Brh
El, I checked your link for the 28. Nice iron. Made about 10 miles from me. I see “The Highway Patrolman” was issued to a number of state police departments. When I was a kid I believe the state cops had a height requirement. 6 feet? Now, not so much. I met a Mass trooper on the Pike. She was maybe 5′ 2″ . A liability in a Berkshire bar brawl. Handle a “Hog leg” , yea right.
Only six shots? Who cares, pistol whip the sonbitch’
Saint,
Back then, six seemed enough…still does, in my dotage. We rarely shot anyone in Oakland in the late 60’s…the weapon was usually used as a negative incentive…occasionally a club.
Yes, I carried a (rare) 5″ Highway Patrolman on duty. When hired on, you could only find model 19’s available (Vietnam War), traded a model 24 for the Highway Patrolman, and never looked back.
Wish I had the model 24 back, however.
That’s the thing. How many guns have we sold or traded away, and spend the test of our lives kicking ourselves in the ass over it.
As a pawn shop owner you must have seen some nice pieces come thru your store.
Brh
“As a pawn shop owner you must have seen some nice pieces come thru your store.”
BRH,
…you got no idea…. When I sold the business and retired in…1985, I had 1000 used guns on the shelves for sale. In pawn, there were several hundred more. Grants Pass, Oregon, in the late 70’s evinced a large gun culture…hunting and collecting.
Oh shit! Just when we thought it couldn’t get any worse.
*** FNN EXCLUSIVE ***
In Wake of Corona Virus Lethal Blahs Epidemic Emerges
Epidemiologists are now reporting a new and even more frightening threat to western civilization emerging from the shadows of the Covid19 pandemic. In what is being referred to as a “human buzz saw,” a lethal Blahs pandemic is now ravaging assisted living care facilities, hospitals, and locked down upscale homes throughout the west, in what is already being termed a much deeper threat to the western lifestyle than the Covid19 virus itself.
Noted WHO epidemiologist Summ Dumm Phuc weighed in emerging pandemic in his somewhat broken English: “This bad! Reery, reery bad! Why you stand there! Run for rives, foows!” Through a translator he later added: “We don’t have a complete handle on this yet, but our preliminary estimates are several million – perhaps tens of millions – undiagnosed world-wide dead and dying already, with exponentially increasing figures from there. It’s one thing to die from a virus that merely takes you out physically, but a threat that takes away your willingness to stay home and watch shitty reruns on TV and join in internet hysteria? That’s some truly existential shit now, and threatens everything our civilization holds near and dear. It’s not unfair to say that the living will truly envy the dead if this really takes hold!”
[Warning: Tear-jerking story of tragic human loss follows] The residents of the Geezers-R-Us assisted living care facility in Swampwater FL are still in mourning, after the recent tragic loss of 112 year old resident Charlie Stenchfield. After shrugging off the Covid19 virus with nary a peep earlier in the month, the cagey supercentenarian – largely blind and deaf with an advanced case of Alzheimers and completely confined to a motorized wheelchair – slipped into an advanced case of Ennui after the recent Covid19 lockdown, before rapidly succumbing altogether from a rapid onset case of the Blahs following a marathon binge watching session of I Love Lucy and The Golden Girls. “Old Charlie was the most vital and engaging 112 year old largely blind and deaf advanced Alzheimer’s patient who was completely confined to a motorized wheel chair I’ve ever met,” said recent caretaker Agnes Funkhouser. “He laughingly referred to Covid19 as ‘Old Pussies’ Disease’, which always got a laugh from the facility crowd, even as they saw their ranks thinned by several dozen due to the pandemic.”
Long-time 96 year old friend and fellow resident Hubert McGillicuddy reminisced about his old friend: “Charlie was a man’s man! I remember when Charlie first moved 35 years ago like it was yesterday. He had recently bought the entire Geezers-R-Us chain after a long and tremendously successful entrepreneurial career in geezer supplies. Walkers, oxygen supplies, heart monitors, wheelchairs, table games, CPAP – he was pushing CPAP a full twenty years before the mainstream medical community caught on to it – the whole nine yards. A real visionary! There was talk that he was mobbed up, but the Charlie I knew was much too tough to settle for sharing his spoils with any pretty boy mobsters. The first thing he did was raise the rates on all the old birds and toss the losers out on their asses. Personally, in many cases! Then he moved all the 60 and 70 year old hotties he could find – and he really had an eye for Geezer flesh! – to liven things up! Which he did until the day he died. I have to say, he was the most vibrant 65 pound, 112 year old, who was largely blind and deaf with advanced Alzheimer’s and completely confined to a motorized wheelchair that I’ve ever met. A real tiger to the very end!”
Charlie leaves behind (living or dead) a total of 8-10 wives (many undocumented), countless girlfriends, approximately 15-25 children, untold number of grand, great grand, and great, great grandchildren. He will definitely be missed.
Jeez, you must be really bored staying at home.
Yes, but no Blahs in sight, yet.
I knew a woman once who said that boredom is dangerous – that you could die from it. It’s similar to the Korean belief that if you go to sleep in a room with a fan on, you might not wake up. The fan suck the air out somehow.
As of 12;07 PM According to John Hopkins:
46,805 cases. 593 deaths : 1.3% death rate
I thought all these statistics were lies, Attacksub. So, are they UNDERexaggeraitng or OVERexaggerating?
No, the only under exaggerations are from Canada New Zealand and Australia
What an utter dipshit you are.
Did you post that while gazing in a mirror at your old wizened shrinking image?
Cargill, since I’m living in the looney tunes universe, there is nothing I can say to you which will make a bit of difference. Cheers.
Repeating unsupported (and unsupportable) conspiracy theory gossip and scuttlebut seems to be the house style around here.
Have we had anything on Chemtrails or Fluoridation this week?
As opposed the MSM agitprop you’re lapping up uncritically? Give it a rest.
I lap up nothing uncritically comrade … I’ve been a media critic all my adult life – and in fact lectured in the subject at university (yes one of those pampered academics).
I find the NYT pretty staid and conservative, and it gives the Golden Globe much more slack than the clown warrants. The Washington Post has a bit more mongrel about it, but it is still fairly reserved.
CNN I watch a lot – but not uncritically, never. Fox is unwatchable – it’s just dreadful.
Cargill. You certainly display an academic’s incapacity to think outside the “Overton Window”. But in contrast to yourself, American scholars craft plausible, albeit specious, arguments to further their views. You simply fling insults scooped up from the gutter. Perhaps your connection to academia is more in line with emptying the trash cans, wiping the boards, and mopping the floors at night.
Nobody ever talks seriously about chemtrails or fluoridation on this board.
Is anybody else here a little suspicious of commenters who purport to be from Australia and New Zeeland, but are so heavily invested in American partisan politics?
“Purport” ? Give it rest, Marlin.
Come on Majella you drongo. I you know your a piker, leave the seppos alone. …–..– /…– ..- — —… /– –.. —–.–.–/.–.–.- – / — Dumb bunny
A doctor ruins his career.
https://youtu.be/LT8Ssj_wuns
Fauci attended Regis High School in New York City where he graduated in 1958. He then enrolled at the College of the Holy Cross where he received a BS in classics in 1962. Fauci then went on to attend Cornell University Medical College where he graduated first in his class with an M.D. in 1966. He then completed an internship and residency at The New York Hospital-Cornell Medical Center. Fauci ruined his career in 2020 when he violated the Hippocratic Oath by defending Donald Trump’s genocidal removal of American citizenry to preserve tax cuts for the rich.
Trump says opposite things in the same breath and his beguiled supporters don’t notice. People who have spent entire lifetimes studying disease are ignored. Their objections Trumped by the bullshit of a buffon. The mettle of men is tested and much is found wanting.
“Beguiled”?? Befuddled, more like, K-Dog
Just throwing this out here for funsies. Not trying to start anything, honest.
The Ontario government has ordered all non-essential businesses to shut down as of midnight tonight. Naturally, they had to provide a list of what’s considered an essential business.
Fun fact: Cannabis stores and cannabis producers are considered essential businesses (along with beer, wine and liquor stores).
https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.news.ontario.ca/opo/en/2020/03/list-of-essential-workplaces-2.html
Not a joke, it’s item #4 on the list. Take care of yourselves, y’all.
As Huxley said, Reality is something that most people can only take in small quantities. You should know that Elrond….
No joke Elron is right. I just got a text saying Uncle Ike’s in White Center is open and that they are an essential business. And proud of it I am sure.
Get INDICA something that will give you good couch-lock so you won’t want to, or be capable of, going anywhere. You won’t catch the crud or pass it on that way. Avoid a SATIVA unless you want to clean your house.
Canada and WA must be following the same experts.
I’ll bet Justin Trudeau couldn’t pas a piss test. Just a vibe I get.
https://cis.org/Rush/Refugees-Are-Being-Resettled-Despite-Outbreak
Nothing is more important. Like after the Fort Hood shooting by a Muslim, the General said, At least we still have the Diversity. Indeed General, indeed.
The Spice (the vibrancy!) must flow.
https://freewestmedia.com/2020/03/22/germany-still-welcomes-asylum-seekers-despite-covid-19/
All travel banned except for these disease vectors. They can go wherever they want. It’s almost like they’re the Citizens and Europeans are simply “mensch material” or human in name only.
OMG
627 nuovi deceduti con coronavirus, non per coronavirus.”
627 new deaths with coronavirus, not from coronavirus.
THAT’S one hell of a precision. Why was it edited out almost immediately? Oh, I think we ALL know why.
Numbers are being cooked so that anyone who dies is tested, and if coronavirus is present, the person is counted as a CORONAVIRUS DEATH, even if they died from cancer, or a head injury, or… seasonal H1N1 flu. Remember, in the U.S., in an average flu season year, 150 people die EVERY DAY from seasonal flu. But that’s different. That’s a different sort of dead – the sort that doesn’t matter.
Here is an Italian pundit pointing this up – of the 627 that died that day, the Italian I.S.S. (Instituto Superiore di Sanità) freely admitted that only TWELVE – 12 – a dozen – died FROM coronavirus. The other 615 all died from something else.
“The media are reporting that today 627 people died from coronavirus. The I.S.S. has explained that only 12 people had no other pathologies. To attribute all the deaths to the virus is not only false and unscientific. It’s more than that. It is psychological terrorism.”
Ann Barnhardt. How many will die as a result of the wrecked economy? And the increasing crackdown by the New World Order?
The last paragraph was by me. The rest is from Anne. Anne’s site is Barnhardt Biz.
Janos
Boy, if this is true, what a condemnation of whoever is behind this travesty. If total deaths are being all counted as Coronavirus deaths, what are the real mortality rates? If Corona is comparable to the flu in reality, that knowledge would be really detrimental to the folks trying to shut the world down.
here
https://www.teaparty247.org/ny-health-officials-told-residents-to-gather-for-chinese-new-year-in-defiance-of-coronavirus-that-ended-well/
Honestly, I was suspicious of Ann’s take before. I honestly am not sure what to think at this point. But the other two articles you posted above regarding the fact that we are still resettling refugees in the midst of the pandemic just goes to show that nothing at all and whatsoever stops the Globalists from doing what the Globalists want to do. So it is within the realm of possibility that the Globalists could be intentionally attempting to sink the world’s national economies. What a better way of attempting to forge a world order once the dust settles?
Ann loves the RCChurch but mocks Chemtrails.
She isnt the best. No wonder she was cleaning homes to make money.
Janos,
BBC reports a priest ill with the CV gave his respirator over to a younger patient…the priest died. The story is humbling…almost brought tears to my eyes. I know Sainthood is out of the question, but he should be honored by the church in some way.
Humanity at it’s finest.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52015969
If someone has cancer & contracts CV, & dies, what killed that patient?
If someone has HIV & contracts CV, & dies, what killed that patient?
If someone has COPD & contracts CV, & dies, what killed that patient?
The virus may be the final nail in the coffin, but it will be only one of the nails.
It’s dishonest to panic the populace by implying that CV by itself killed these patients. It certainly seems as though there’s an agenda afoot for panicking the public to accept measures of government control that it wouldn’t have accepted otherwise, such as are found in the democratic emergency spending bill.
Tate,
If your dog gets run over by a Buick, did the accident kill him or did he die of exsanguination?
I’ll have to consult my nephew the exsanguinist.
The battle lines are being drawn. How far are we going to isolate before we destroy the economy or drive everyone, especially the youngsters, crazy? The divisions in the task team are obvious. Who is right?
China is currently opening up , and a slight uptick in cases has occurred, which they blame on incoming Chinese folks returning home.
One very important point, let’s say we destroy the economy by isolating for 3 plus months. We save from death a very small part of the country by isolating. Is the surviving world worth the cost? Like living in a post-apocalyptic world.
One idea being bandied about is to protect the folks in danger by continuing isolation for them. Let the “kids” get back to living life normally and opening up the economy. For them, it is less than the flu.
What the heck, they have been ignoring the 15 day plan anyway, put them to work.
If Janos’ info above is correct, the fear factor will disappear overnight.
According to reports, if you can believe them, there are plenty of 20-40 year olds that need ventilators and ICU with this. It sounds like you already wrote that out of the equation so already I’m not sure you have an accurate picture of the situation, if any of us do. China is also not really opening up. Hundreds of millions are actually still in quarantine, including Wuhan, where supposedly a new case was reported today after five days of no new testing. Dr. Martenson at Peak Prosperity says that China’s numbers have always been totally bogus and based on anecdotal evidence leaking out of China, it appears China still has problems. Why can’t we be more like South Korea, Hong Kong, and Singapore where everyone is wearing a mask and so people feel safer getting out and about? I think our society is too selfish to adopt simple adaptive behaviors that would allow us to be around each other but not infect each other until we know what we need to know about this SARS virus.
Don’t you know yet? The virus loses its powers once the 2020 election has passed.
Until then, it’s maximum economic damage, baby!
Watch this & comment please.
https://youtu.be/LnlehXz7dRs
10 million to 20 million dead if no quarantine and hospitals are overwhelmed…. I don’t know? Nursing homes wiped out…. Maybe no one would notice except for the hospital and nursing home staff and the garbage pickup? Blokes collapse in the bar from “Cytokine Storm” and people just keep on drinking and partying? It’s possible, I guess… Weird society….
Gold is up about $120. today, in USA.
All time highs in other countries.
Does anyone know the gold market and where it shall go?
Whoa! $120 in 1 day!
JHK has mentioned the Comex and the dumping of a years
production [paper] in seconds to suppress.
All time high [not inflation adjusted] in various countries.
and
https://www.teaparty247.org/ny-health-officials-told-residents-to-gather-for-chinese-new-year-in-defiance-of-coronavirus-that-ended-well/
Heard Cuomo’s very frustrated presser this AM
He wants 30000 more ventilators as the epidemic runs away in NY State. He is going to get 4000 from current stores including 2000 in federal stock piles. He can bitch at DC all he wants, you cannot send what does not exist. He of course blames DC for killing 26000 people. Typical!
He also said the doubling time is three days now. Why? All the mitigation schemes are failing. Why? What is the real percentage of people self-isolating? How many virus parties are going on here? What is the infection path that is defeating the plans? Why did China have success but Italy, Iran and now NY are failing? These are questions I do not hear anyone addressing.
Why NY and NYC? I understand the frustration but the current level of equipment in the country will not help much if the infection rate continues.
I do not believe the numbers from China…show me aerial photos of China, smoke from factories not crematories and biz as usual.
I dunno, I kinda like Gov. Cuomo now. He seems to really care about his people. He appears to have a take charge attitude. I began to wonder last night if New York State could annex Louisiana. If we had never moved our manufacturing overseas I bet we could make all the ventilators we need.
I agree, SSL. Cuomo is taking charge, being honest, leading, empathetic, and acting PRESIDENTIAL.
JAZ, forming that start up yet to compete making masks and ventilators? It’s capitalism, I know you can do it. Just think of the demand, the profits!
leaving babies to be harvested and get adrenochrome from is evil.
period, baby.
CT bullshit.
“He also said the doubling time is three days now. Why? All the mitigation schemes are failing. Why? What is the real percentage of people self-isolating? How many virus parties are going on here? What is the infection path that is defeating the plans?
John,
Because many Americans are privilege-besotted sons of bitches, without a shred of social conscience or responsibility.
Majella has no answer for the Third Way. She is swimming in the three D’s, none of which is a river: Denial, Deceit, & Delusion.
The fact is the economy is like a living organism. It must keep moving to stay alive. Do we want to deliberately kill the economy, the organism that keeps us alive? No, we don’t. That’s what happened during the Great Depression, the economy was practiced on by quack economists & millions died unnecessarily as a result. The quacks of that era killed the economy as surely as George Washington was killed by excessive blood-letting by his quack doctors after he caught a common cold.
We have to sacrifice a few extremely old codgers & a few immune-compromised, those already at death’s door, in order to save the rest. If we don’t, then entire segments of the economy will die, & we will be in the deep doo-doo, as GHWB used to say.
How do we do this? Here are some suggestions:
1) Order everybody back to work & school immediately. Lift all quarantines & closures in order to “steepen the curve” & introduce herd immunity as quickly as possible.
2) At the same time, continue to educate the public in common-sense behaviors like social distancing to the greatest extent possible; hand-washing, wearing masks & gloves if available. Hire people to go around disinfecting surfaces like handrails, light switches, etc. This will allow the populace to become inoculated with smaller doses of the virus & thus allow their systems to adjust to it more gradually, thus necessitating fewer hospital visits.
3) Arrest & prosecute these slimy profiteers who are buying up/hoarding/reselling hygiene supplies (many are in collusion with the truck-drivers who deliver these supplies to the stores.)
4) Mobilize the mass production of these critical supplies by government order. This is already happening.
5) A form of triage at hospitals & clinics. No one gets in over the age of 70 who is showing signs severe respiratory distress or who is already immune-compromised. They will have to stay at home. These folks can be prescribed drugs remotely over the internet & self-quarantine at home. We have to protect our healthcare system from becoming deluged with cases.
6) Lock the borders down tight. No one gets in, no exceptions. Foreign aliens bring in not only more cases of the China virus, but also other exotic diseases that we don’t need to deal with at the moment.
7) If the democrats in Congress insist on undermining Trump’s mandate to govern, the president should declare martial law & take the measures necessary without consultation with Pelosi, Schumer & the rest of that pack of rats.
If we don’t do these things right away, much of the economy will die off, & it won’t be brought back to life for a generation.
Ok, well I just want to let you know that number 1 completely terrifies me ok. I know what you are trying to do but OMG! Otherwise it all sounds like good commonsense things that must be done. I especially agree that right now it would be totally awesome if everyone could wear masks and gloves in public. A major part of this problem is lack of real clear and indisputable information on the virus and the uncertainty is what is driving the hysteria.
The “organism” will die if the lockdown continues for much longer. It has to do with mass psychology, the public mood. Once expectations & attitudes change, they cannot easily be changed back to the status quo ante. A new equilibrium will take effect. Some will say this is the beginning of the Long Emergency predicted by JHK & will applaud it. Be careful what you wish for.
what lockdown in NYC?
https://www.teaparty247.org/ny-health-officials-told-residents-to-gather-for-chinese-new-year-in-defiance-of-coronavirus-that-ended-well/
Yes, & number 2 needs a lot of work as well. I was at the store yesterday buying some eggs. I was sorting through the eggs looking for cracked ones. All of a sudden, catching me unawares, this idiot is breathing right off my left shoulder saying “Whacha doin’? Oh, I see whatcha doin'” By the time I look up, he’s waddling off to his cart. I have a slow fuse, but got to thinking about it later in the evening. If I’d been on my toes, I would have planted my elbow firmly under his chin.
Also got some eggs yesterday. Got back to the storage freezer and got a couple of dozen. Plenty of eggs, but the shelves were empty. Goose egg.
Anyway, I began to wonder about the pilfering that may be going on behind the scenes by store employees. Soon, they may find it necessary to survive.
SSL
Just how much of the economy do you want to see go into the garbage before we release the in home directives. Everyone seems to think that this is going to go away in a few weeks. Plan B pessimists in the government are planning on 18 months. 18 months from now, we will remember the 1930’s fondly.
BTW, the 1930’s. The Fourth Turning theory says that history repeats every 80 to 100 years. Hmm, 90 years since the last Depression war crisis.
Tate
I have no idea what statement of mine you could be referring to. Please elucidate, as I get no actual connection between your attack and the content of your post.
As to the rest of your post, what a dark & basically selfish attitude. Do you REALLY believe the economy would do BETTER, as an ocean of bodies started to litter the streets?
You also think it’s “old codgers’ but that isn’t so. It’s more heavily in the plus-60, smokers or otherwise compromised, but it’s just as effective on plenty in all age groups above 25 plus.
You’re a heartless bastard and this “solution” you promote along with nut-jobs like Glenn Beck is disgraceful and would NOT lead to the outcome you’re expecting anyway. How idiotic.
shape of things to come–
https://baltimorefishbowl.com/stories/maryland-national-guard-arrives-in-baltimore-to-respond-to-coronavirus/
If the lessons of the 1918 Spanish Flu have any bearing on the present, then there are likely to be numerous highly-touted vaccines, but they are unlikely to be effective.
Yes the same thing happened with AIDS. Only AZT made it out of the fray.
On my website I have a 3/24 update. My British Doc. has clear instructions on how to end the virus spread. In America the pandemic can be contained but not with Trump in charge. A link to video is at the update.
https://chasingthesquirrel.com/
How did the 1918 flu epidemic end? Just burn itself out?
It ended in a grave above the Nth parallel / permafrosty and was resurrected.
here, my dear,
Inside the Swift, Deadly History of the Spanish Flu Pandemic
[Search domain http://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/magazine/2018/03-04/history-spanish-flu-pandemic/%5D https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/magazine/2018/03-04/history-spanish-flu-pandemic/
In 1997 the samples taken by Johan Hultin from the woman found in the frozen mass grave in Brevig Mission added to scientists’ knowledge as to how flu viruses mutate and spread.
How an Alaska village grave led to a Spanish flu …
[Search domain http://www.adn.com/alaska-news/science/2020/03/22/how-an-alaska-village-grave-led-to-a-spanish-flu-breakthrough/%5D https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/science/2020/03/22/how-an-alaska-village-grave-led-to-a-spanish-flu-breakthrough/
Samples taken from preserved bodies buried in permafrost helped develop a vaccine for the Spanish flu. How an Alaska village grave led to a Spanish flu breakthrough – Anchorage Daily News Skip to …
When the crisis in Italy was beginning, the Mayor of Florence instituted a “hug a Chinese tourist” campaign, because apparently some Italians weren’t happy about them being there.
Who was right, the Mayor and the dupes who went all with this? Or the people who wanted the Chinese tourists gone or not let in?
Elrond? Jello? Evie “Comacho” Lynn? Galaxy Brain Alba?
I’ll guess the popularity of that sentiment has surged right along with the virus.
What is happening in Italy.
https://youtu.be/lX-G6zKMajk
And this is what your Trump is giving you.
We’ve seen this kind of mania in you before. I advise rest, work, and sattiva. Those more energetic types of pot are not for you at this stage in your recovery. Try fasting from this site for a day.
Janis
I’d have responded to your query had you not addressed me in moronic fashion.
In the absence of respect on your part I’m afraid I can only advise you to FRO.
Janos is just sad nobody is hugging him 🙁
Where is the hug-an-aryan campaign???
Yes, Janis. FRO.
FRO? As in Afro? Do Maoris have fros? I know they have competition as to who can make the fiercest and weirdest faces. Real high level stuff, jello.
When this thing inevitably blows over in a few weeks, as it absolutely will, Trump’s lock on reelection will be completely secure.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/24/coronavirus-stimulus-trump-pushes-return-to-work-as-kudlow-predicts-economic-rebound.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-strategy/index.html
Finally, a leader who’s not afraid to actually lead. What a fuckin’ concept!
https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/psychiatrist-on-trump-s-dangerous-response-to-coronavirus-crisis-79587909614
I can’t give clicks to fake news sites, so please fill me in — does the psychiatrist cover psychosomatic or immune-system-related effects of fear porn?
This strategy of a diet of oranges, in addition to a few daily ‘Screwdrivers’ (orange juice and vodka) seems to be working; nobody on the homestead got Asoka Virus yet.
The women here weren’t taking this pandemic too seriously until the local mall shut down. Now it’s a serious matter. They sprang into action, visiting grocery stores all over the valley, then commenced making chicken soup, Basque style. A little spicey, but just the thing for the Days of Plague.
Brh
“This strategy of a diet of oranges, in addition to a few daily ‘Screwdrivers’ (orange juice and vodka) seems to be working; nobody on the homestead got Asoka Virus yet.”
Have you been in contact with anyone with the virus, brh?
If not, what do you mean?
That’s just the thing, GA. How would I know?
My point exactly, brh.
Once you know you’ve been in close contact with a virus sufferer, get back to us about the effectiveness of prophylactic orange therapy.
GA, I’m assuming everyone is infected. The fact that we don’t have it is proof enough for me that screwdrivers and oranges are effective in warding off this Asoka Virus.
In the new world, a bartender who can mix a good screwdriver will be invaluable. He’ll be able to write his own ticket.
Brh
It has to work better than our Big Orange therapy. How is Bombshell holding out?
I guess he’s doing his best, having prevaricated earlier. Health Secretary, ‘Matt the App’ is a useless twit with the wrong kind of PPE from Oxford (popular degree, alongside Law, for our MPs). .
We are following italy with a two week delay. Next two weeks will be the tsunami. Matt ‘Handjob’ will continue to try to procure enough PPE for health workers. Says he’s ‘on to it’. Hmmm…
I’m curious if we will see a tidal wave of infections. My county has 24 confirmed out of 470,000 people. Everything is shut down. My wife and daughter laid off. I’ll get by. I am watching old camcorder videos which I have not seen since 1992.
https://www.teaparty247.org/ny-health-officials-told-residents-to-gather-for-chinese-new-year-in-defiance-of-coronavirus-that-ended-well/
ask the NY expert.
StElmo
I haven’t done the maths, but a health expert here said each infected person here seems to be infecting an average of 2.5 other people (some say 3). If you can even halve that exposure to 1.25 on average you’ll have infected only 15 new people by the end of 30 days. But if you don’t and you stick with 2.5 you’ve got 406 infected people from one original person.
Like I said, not my calculations – maybe if boredom gets worse I’ll check.
GA, “maybe if boredom gets worse I’ll check”
Now that school is not in session it might be a good time to practice your ciphers.
First problem what is $2,000,000,000,000.00 divided by 7,500,000,000? the amount that the USA is about to dump on the world economy for every person on the planet. Let the good times roll!
You are literally seeing Republicans, led by Donald Trump, abandoning the most vulnerable Americans to death. You’re seeing it happen right before your eyes.
That’s a little melodramatic, isn’t it K-Dog?
Get ahold of yourself, man.
A presidential candidate needs to keep a cool head.
If it is your moma is it too dramatic for you?
Far from it being melodramatic without adequate health care some areas could see a 20% mortality rate.
You don’t think so? Check out Italy.
BigData at work. If you go to the MAP and zoom in east of the Mississippi you can see big data at work. To understand consider this.
Biff pulled his rig under the canopy and began filling her up with diesel. Walking into the store the little sleigh-bell on the door-frame announced his entrance. A couple of hot dogs and a big plastic cup of iced colored water Biff walked to the counter with his purchase. He watched the breasts of the store clerk jiggle as she turned to face him.
‘How is your day going’ he said.
Fine, how’s yours?’ she said as she rung up the items and took his card. She bent close to check the out of state ID in his wallet against the card. Handing it back and pointing to the customer keypad she said.
‘Eight twenty nine’
Biff swiped the card and entered a code.
Handing Biff his receipt the clerk said,
‘Thank you, have a nice day’ Biff replied
‘You too’
And Biff was gone.
Susan got off work an hour an hour and a half later and felt fine for four days. She rents a trailer across the tracks on the other side of town. The town which appears as a dot smack in the middle of an interstate on the MAP.
Conspiracy theory, you decide. Zoom in and out on the map. Pearls on a string.
What I mean by Big Data is the infection city data point was matched to a city which is shown with a major traffic artery going through it. At this time cities too far from major traffic arteries are so less affected that the map shows how the virus was transmitted. The clarity of the relationship will soon not be apparent as the virus spreads evenly from where it has been seeded.
Twenty percent mortality rate???
Maybe 20% of those admitted to the ICU. Not of the general population. Stop being an alarmist, kdog.
Yes, and Tate is cheerleading it. Despicable.
Majella, you’re cheerleading the destruction of this country. Beyond despicable.
Am I? How so, precisely?
Black man vs. Orange man.
https://qz.com/africa/1824465/coronavirus-malawi-with-no-cases-declares-national-disaster/?utm_source=YPL&yptr=yahoo
Does Orange man come from Orangutans?
“Malawi has plenty of experience dealing with public health crisis given the high HIV incidence in the country over the last few decades. It still has one of the highest HIV prevalences in the world despite the impressive progress the country has made in recent years. There are concerns in medical community that HIV carriers could be particularly vulnerable to the coronavirus. South Africa, which has the world’s largest HIV positive population, is taking key steps to protect this group.”
These countries have made good progress with teaching abstinence. In contrast, the NGOs led by radical feminist white women preach the use of condoms because everybody has to be sexually liberated, don’t you know. LOL. When they regress back to their natural condition of promiscuity, the AIDS cases spike.
When they regress back to their natural condition of promiscuity, the AIDS cases spike.
The AIDS epidemic was launched by the hyper-promiscuity and commercialised sex scheme among the mostly white gay males of New York. I wouldn’t be throwing too many stones in the direction of Malawi, comrade.
the NGOs led by radical feminist white women preach the use of condoms
Your criticism is hysterical – abstinence doesn’t work, but condoms do.
Abstinence is proven to work. Of course, condoms technically work. No one disputes that. But we’re talking two completely different categories of prevention. Perversely, condoms actually encourage the spread of disease by instilling greater confidence in users. It’s something like moral hazard, but I can’t recall the name offhand. Insurers have a name for this phenomenon. It’s basically a false sense of confidence leading to riskier behaviors.
But you’re right about the AIDS epidemic being pretty much an exclusively Gay phenomenon in the developed world, the nexus New York City, something Gay activists tried to hide from the public in order to gain sympathy & financial support by pretending the entire American middle-class was at risk.
Blacks are more promiscuous than other races. This is a product of subtle racial differences at the hormonal level as well as broad-based cultural differences between whites & the various Bantu tribes of sub-Saharan Africa, having to do with polygamy vs. monogamy.
Also, they have coarser pubic hair than whites & asians. This promotes the spread of AIDS. (This isn’t something I made up, btw. I was told this myself by black Africans a couple of decades ago while on a visit.)
“It’s something like moral hazard, but I can’t recall the name offhand. Insurers have a name for this phenomenon. It’s basically a false sense of confidence leading to riskier behaviors.”
Yeah..it’s called “Trumpism”
It’s called Risk compensation.
“Blacks are more promiscuous than other races…”
Tate,
I might agree that some black cultures do not sanction those who are promiscuous.
How do you mean “sanction?”
Tate,
Disapprove, or socially obstruct.
“I might agree that some black cultures do not sanction those who are promiscuous.” — ef
Do you agree that American blacks are more promiscuous?
Tate
Well, many of them are, but probably not all.
You do realize that the natural condition of humanity in general is promiscuity. That’s why civilization was invented, to modulate that impulse. But the White community does civilization better than the other racial communities, with the possible exception of the East Asians (Chinese, Japanese, & Koreans). In any event, they do it differently. Shame cultures instead of guilt cultures. External instead of internal.
Two flights of fantasy today:
1. The Dow rises 2110 points (11%), in the belief (so it’s claimed) that the two-trillion-dollar stimulus package might pass – a completely artificial lifeline in a sea of economic recession;
2. The Golden Globe said it will be “over” by Easter (18 days) … the man is a lunatic and a clown … thank goodness there are quite a few sensible state governors, and experts like Dr Fauci.
Where did he say that? Burden of proof is on you.
Last rambling “interview” on Fox News … it’s a soften-up for the lifting of restrictions in another week. It’s total madness – and every epidemiologist knows it.
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/03/24/us/24reuters-health-coronavirus-trump-easter.html
It’s a site that I can’t access. But the headline said “Trump would love to see businesses reopen by Easter.” It should be obvious with anyone with half a functioning brain that that’s totally different than he said the coronavirus “will be over” by Easter.
Have anything else?
Nope, Trump’s right. We’re very fortunate to have a genius in charge of the country in these trying times.
Go watch his daily ‘smoke & mirrors’ show for today.
Tate:
“It’s a site that I can’t access.”
Huh? Been banned from the NYT? What did you have to do to deserve that?
Identical in meaning in Trump World … I would have thought you would have known that.
But anyway – it’s just a prelude to sacrificing the health protocols so that he can be re-elected. He knows that when he stops being president, he spends his life in jail, or he spends it fighting the threat of jail. Sad.
Here is today presser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7LWF3Hj-eg&feature=em-lbrm
“Trump would love to see businesses reopen by Easter.” – Tate
============
In addition, Dr Fauci said that Easter was the president’s aspirational goal.
That was a NYT headline, Q-tip. Not my quote.
In his press conference today, the one that is going on now. Now a lying bitch is talking. I can’t be nice. The ignorance is MURDEROUS.
We are being set up for the Trump police state. Now a bald headed Santa Clause is pretending he has presents to pass out. $6 trillion dollars.
Big Orange is back is pretending he has presents to pass out now. All the kids get hooked up. Boeing, The Cruse Lines, Airlines, Trump properties. I’m sure the list goes on.
KDFP
Let’s see yesterday you were upset because he was not using the emergency powers to build equipment. Today you are bitching about Trump police state. .??
https://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status
Go To Chinese New Years Party…hug a chinese.
The end of Identity politics. Everybody, regardless of ethnicity, is now a threat to everyone else. Hate will not count anymore, everyone is going to avoid contacting everyone else. Millennials are going to get through this in good shape, they contact each other through their phones. Contact people are going to suffer though, until herd immunity cancels out the fear of contact. Maybe never?
Trump, the virus, the Deep State, a worthless Congress, an advancing millennial generation, meaningless elections, (yes, meaningless),
We are ripe for the Fourth turning.
And Democrats pound salt.
S O R O S
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/24/george-soros-democrat-pac-rolls-out-anti-trump-coronavirus-ads/
Good for him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7Uf5QppA18
KDFP Equipment is shipped for the worst at the same time Trump things sequester at home should go on a bit longer. Trump prepares for a police state with a lot of dead people.
KDFP I could not spell ‘Trump thinks’ the first time and it is not easy now. Trump irresponsibility and misrepresentation reigns. The lying sack of shit makes me wants to puke.
Trump is an IDIOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KDFP I can’t believe I made it to the end of the press conference. We are doomed.
Larry Kudlow Does Bad Math Bailout Ripoff: https://youtu.be/nUZnWT3wKbs
Is that who the bald headed Santa Claus was, Larry Kudlow. Former TV host, crackerjack economist and Trumps feel-good bean counting puppet. Americans get a Christmas stocking and American industry, the 1% get presents under the tree.
Hey everybody:
More for them and less for you. But really, this time it is also up to you.
Just heard Himself saying at his daily smoke & mirrors show that he’s “pleased that we are reaching the end of our historic battle with this invisible enemy”…WTF? Is he really THAT clueless?
It is all about him. The world, Trump’s world revolves around him. He does not see you unless you are about him. If you are not about Trump he gets rid of you. And yes, people really do let him be this clueless. He manipulates and is another kind of invisible enemy. – KDFP
Why would KDFP be any different. Your incredible holier than now attitude indicate that you in the position of president would be no different. Then we would have KD haters.
K Dog, for God’s sake, get hold of yourself. This Covid19 situation has put you over the deep end. You used to be pretty level headed, before about a week and a half ago. Almost by yourself you overloaded the Trump Hate-O-Meter; I took it to the local mechanic and he’s working on it now … he just shook his head when he saw what condition it was in.
Relax, my friend. The end of the world is not here.
brh
K Dog, for God’s sake, get hold of yourself. This Covid19 situation has put you over the deep end. You used to be pretty level headed, before about a week and a half ago.
K-Dog was gettin’ pretty darn jealous of the fact that I was providing clarity of analysis and purity of vision! Losing a monopoly can be painful, but it’s the nature of the world.
Anyway there’s enough room in the lifeboat for the clear-eyed and level-headed anti-trumpers … we’re all in this together … only have to hold out until November!
News to me.
K-Dog clicks his stopwatch and looks at the time, then he looks at Cargill’s timestamp. Saying to himself, that did not take long at all. Then K-Dog wonders if Cargill knows that he has been hanging around here for 15 years and really does not care if it is 15 more years or 15 more seconds. Of course he would know that, but that does not jive with jumping the gun. The five eyes are getting desperate it seems.
jibe
Thank you ‘Q’
Or the mask has dropped. Seasonal flu fear porn on steroids.
They’re all Capitalists, Communists or Socialists. In other words, all on the same materialistic line. They are all obsessed with making money and the normalcy bias that supports that – against human well being, be it physical or spiritual.
Anybody else would have made similar mistakes to those which Trump made, at least in all probability.
Putting politics aside for a moment.
A big question is being formulated now. How do we maintain a health care system that is adequate for a pandemic so that required resources are available when another virus strikes? How do we justify maintaining capacities that are ten times what is normal? Our system before Coronavirus was understaffed by all disciplines, MDs, nurses, PTs, Rts, you name it. Care was not the greatest.
The socialized medicine countries were notorious for long lead times on elective therapies before the crisis. They are failing badly where population densities are high. A large difference is the mortality rates in Italy for instance at over 4 percent compared to total US which is 1.2% as of today. Even in the US, NYState is high, along with the Western Coast. Coronavirus is a definite enemy of the urban scene.
Socialized medicine will never be the answer to this quandary. Even with the slight pad that capitalistic medicines gives, it is not an answer to the overage requirement that these viruses present.
So what do we do to maintain a “fat” health care system? I have no idea. Right now, when the crisis ends this time, what do we do?
Reminds me of the end of WW2, when they scrapped all the weapons that were built to fight the war. Are we going to scrap all the new hospitals, MDs, nurses, equipment that will be built during this crisis. Or how do we finance a much higher level of health manning on an ongoing basis.
Cuomo is attacking the Feds for not sending him ventilators PDQ. My question for him is why didn’t NY State have sufficient ventilators in place to handle a crisis. And why should NY be pulling vents from the rest of the country as their numbers climb.
Our society, world wise, sucks when crises occur.
KDFP, what would you do to solve this. Stop Trump hating for a second and answer what you would do to maintain ten times the capacity of health care in between crises.
One suggestion, if I may, would be to stop Trump from getting rid of the panel set up by Obama to deal specifically with pandemics. But of course it’s too late for that, isn’t it?
KDFP That is not need if there is a rapid response team that handles an outbreak as soon as it is detected. The thing that Trump should be putting together now. Infrastructure to deal with a community outbreak while letting economic activity continue. It is not Rocket Science but doctors have to be in charge and everybody has to get fed. So I’m sorry but I can’t stop. If Trump could self isolate and let the adults in the room take charge it would be a very good thing but his ego can’t let that happen. Trump should be ordering a national lock-down. He should have done it the same time Italy did. I would have. Please don’t try and trick me into doing the impossible again. ten times the capacity of health care in between crises would be 20 hospital beds / 1000 and we only need 5.
We could have 5 with less cost than now with National Health Care implemented.
KDFP
Italy is in worse shape than anybody. What did a lockdown do for them? And their vaunted National Health System is collapsing under the pressure.
Italy’s stats are grabbled. Deaths are almost entirely old folks, just like everywhere else.
Stop Trump hating for a second and answer what you would do to maintain ten times the capacity of health care in between crises. – JohnAZ
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Here, let me handle that question.
Create salt domes down near the Strategic Oil Reserve. Fill one with umpteen thousands of ventilators, another with surgical masks, another with hand sanitizer, and a giant one with toilet paper. 🙂
JAZ
Trump hating is what this is all about. Lefties are absolutely giddy as to the opportunity that has been presented to them.
Putting politics aside for a moment.
Where did you do this? The entire post was political – and not just the tired repetitive blast at a national health scheme.
For those who have banned capital punishment, they generally find it abhorrent and barbaric … while those are still have it support it much more. Same with a national health scheme – when you have one, and live your life under such a scheme, you tend to be a very strong supporter of it.
I think health is like water and air … it is so critical that it should never be privatised – I recall Mark Twain was adamant about that: “Whiskey is for drinking, water is for fighting over”.
But as to the main question – how can health systems be fat enough to deal with crises – it’s just a question of politics and priorities … charge everyone who earns over say $30,000 2.5% levy each year – you have the money required.
Do people want to pay 2.5% of their income to have free universal health care for life? I think most people would, particularly if they got to chance to experience it in places like Australia … it’s a sign of civilisation in my view.
Gross incompetence. Not the sharpest pencils in the box….
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zIp8DxCdoBo
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/breaking_news/article-8147765/Greta-Thunberg-says-coronavirus-isolating-father.html
Greta is probably fine. But she can’t stand being left out of anything.
Would anybody go to a crowded church to make Trump happy? Even a diehard, dyed in the wool, drank all the kool-aid and asked for more, forever always Trumper? i bet BRH wouldn’t go, or NO, or E, or JHK. All of you talk a good game, but when it stops being a game and your life is at risk- not so much- aye there’s a term for it… what could it be… something about fair weather….a fair weather Trumper. Trump asked you to his rallies, he asked you for his vote, he asked you to suspend your disbelief on Russia, his taxes, his sexual assaults, his penis. But now he’s asking you to risk your life. Like he said, it kind of just snuck up on us.
A pint of Bukoff Vodka, a half dozen oranges, sure, I’ll go to church. That Asoka Virus won’t know what hit it.
Vodka, oranges and sunshine is what will be saving humanity IMHO.
And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
Go ahead and partake of her sins. New York has become a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/
“kings of the earth have committed fornication with her”
LB,
Oh, that reminds me…The BBC this AM reports that Bonnie Prince Charles tested POZ for the CV.
Hear that he and Epstein were buds….
I don’t go to rallies. I keep relatively quiet around low-IQ types and speak with my vote.
I also live in Germany now, so going to a rally would be quite difficult.
Shall I shit or get off the pot?
Wipe it down when you are done.
There ‘s even a nobody Lt Governor from Texas saying it. “If it’s risking my life to save this great economy that Americans love, for their children and grandchildren, I’m all in.” Gotta have those kids in the equation to shame people into it. What a tool. He’s a Snap On. The best tool out there.
“He’s a Snap On. The best tool out there.”
LB,
You’ve touched a nerve. The Old Pawnbroker (Me) has seen tons of tools…every manufacturer. Snap On tools are OK, finely polished, strong enough, but very overpriced. As I am also a machinist and mechanic (diesel), I can tell you that I prefer older Craftsman tools…every bit as good (at half the price) and with a better replacement guarantee.
I’ve owned hundreds of Snap On wrenches and ratchets…and I never saw a 3/8″ Snap On ratchet that worked. Never.
What I REALLY like to see are Plumb tools…made in the 40’s and 50’s…indestructible.
Had a guy that worked as a gofer in a wrecking yard…used to come by and I would trade him a few Snap On wrenches for… 5 gallon pails of wheel weights. Think about it.
“Five gallon pail of wheel weights”
Loading your own, E?
Of course.
Our major cities look like that city in “The Devil’s Advocate” at the end when Mary Ann kills herself and Kevin finally realizes who he’s up against. “Easter with full churches. It would be beautiful, a beautiful time, a beautiful timeline. Wouldn’t that be beautiful?” People will be dying for this guy before it’s over. When they come right out and ask you, flowery and tempting, to lay down your life for the great leader, they have some dark plans for all of us.
Sounds like you’re given that vodka-orange-sunshine panacea a real good nudge. And did you see the crazy happy-clapper preacher down in the bayou … he had a thousand rubes a-cryin and a-hollerin and a-huggin and gargling in tongues … it was coronavirus party-time.
You are one fucking crazy country, I’ll give you that!
Any rubes in Australia, or is everybody sophisticated and eclectic?
Gargyle, why don’t you open your mouth & spew more effluvia from your high perch.
Sophisticated argument there comrade … really well done.
Do you read & reflect upon what you write here, comrade, before you hit submit? Sophisticated argument indeed. The effluvia seeks its own level. Pot kettle.
Sure, we got plenty – they go by the general name of “bogans”. Here is a typical Aussie scene:
https://nnimgt-a.akamaihd.net/transform/v1/crop/frm/37XVDVf6PKNXt4CyKSGfnwf/8b159557-0da3-4a48-a515-d631ee874294.jpg/r0_542_4974_3316_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg
Not sure there are any so dumb that they would vote for Trump, but they are definitely from the shallow end of the gene pool!
I don’t know Cargill they look like decent people to me. You appear to be a little arrogant and condescending, my friend. Those folks in that pic would fit right in in the small towns around here, at beer festivals, stock car races, pick up softball games, turkey shoots, Ham shoots, bass fishing, the rifle and pistol range … not so much at the Liz Warren Intersectional LBGT center at Nelson Mandela Hall down at Yale.
Brh
Cargill ” the shallow end of the gene pool!”
Well that would be me. Unfortunately these poor “bogans” don’t have shit for rights. I bet everyone of them would like to be able to buy a decent legal firearm without jumping through a shitload of hoops. I am from Massatwoshits and believe me I have jumped through said hoops.
As some have pointed out your douchebaggery knows zero boundaries.
someones opinion on Gold price,
The spot prices are becoming meaningless.
Spot gold closed at $1620 after coming close to $1700, and now its down $11.40 as I write this (what a joke)
Meanwhile the last five 1 ounce gold bullion sales on Ebay were from $1800 to $1885.
Silver closed at $14.45, yet one ounce silver eagles are selling for ~$25 on Ebay. Meanwhile the FED is backstopping everything, MM, government bonds, corporate paper, corporate bonds and probably stock too – QE to infinity. Even if they can reflate the markets they are doing it with OUR money,
OUR sweat equity is being diluted. We are being fleeced of purchasing power
Why are you so worried about mere money at this time of national catastrophe – have you no dignity sir? (Modern translation – are you a complete and utter fuckwit?).
National catastrophe.
LOL. Moar mellowdrama!
melodrama
Mobile phone fingers. Who cares.
Complete and utter @#$#$wit would be you Cargill.
Oranges buck up the immune system, and viruses react to sunshine like vampires. And no living creature including viruses can make it thru a Bukoff Vodka bath. I think a half pint can be had for less than $5.Mix yourself a screwdriver on the rocks CFNers, and drink to the health of all of us.
I read Albert Camus’ The Plague years ago, in college, but can’t remember much about it. I think I’ll order a copy.There’s something about French authors — Celine, Genet, Camus, Baudelaire, Jean Raispail, Sartre — they rub your nose in your own mortality, like it or not, even the titles ‘Death on the Installment Plan’, ‘No Exit’, The ‘Plague’… don’t suggest a cheerful reading experience.Our friends in Cannes tell us the Film Festival has been cancelled, and if the police catch you in the street without a pass its a 1500 Euro fine, if convicted.They don’t f#kk around in France, an order is an order.
brh
No yellow jackets in the streets. That is convenient. Macron should be twitching in ecstasy.
Nobody in the streets except looters from NAfrica in Marseilles and Paris.
Would they loot my store if I put an M1 Garand in their face? I doubt it. The M1 pulled the Frenchies assses from the fire in ’44. Of course a tool like the M1 is probably forbidden by the Vichy.
Funny RIP, when Frenchies visit here, young and old, they want to do 2 things: go 4 wheeling up in the state forest, and break out the Winchester rifles and Colt revolvers for a trip to the range. The Stetson has to be dug out, and a favorite pic sent back to Cannes and Barritz is them with a Colt six shooter strapped on, cradling a Winchester Model 1892, and wearing a cowboy hat.
Marlin: “go 4 wheeling up in the state forest, and break out the Winchester rifles and Colt revolvers for a trip to the range.”
And a good time was had by all. I think people around the world are jealous of our freedoms. Sure we have problems but I consider myself lucky to have been born in the USA. Also I love Stetsons. I have a 4X beaver I picked up in Danbury in ’77. One of my favorites, holes and everything. 43 years old and still kickin’. People rag on me when I wear it. In ’82 I was wearing it in a blizzard plowing snow in an open top ’48 Power Wagon for the FD. Low man in the snow. The Chief was watching out the engine bay and told my Deputy Chief ” Tell that God Damn hippy to take that f+++++g hat off! True story.
BRH,
Reminds me. Worked as a consultant for a small business taken public in the early ’90’s. We had the usual gaggle of investment types out to our Oregon location for a due diligence…all young guys from DH Blair. Took them out into the woods and let them shoot machine guns…I supplied five or six for the soiree…pic’s taken, a good time had by all. I think the line-up included a Thompson M1A1, and Uzi, an M16, and a BAR, as I recall…maybe a few more.
RIP, I could see you in a Stetson, looking like the Marlboro Man, or Steven Stills when he sang “Somethings happening here”.
E. I’m assuming you were consulting on security issues. I’ve never had the privilege of being in the presence of a Thompson. What I wouldn’t give to operate one.
But I hzve seen Warren Zevon’s video ‘Tommy the headless gunner’
Brh
Freaky, we have an online map and we can watch the epidemic spread. Never has the world known so much and America acted so poorly. My fellow citizens this is a dark day. I hold out my hands to you. Let there be a purification. A cleansing and a commitment to new ways. Nature demands it. She speaks. — KDFP
I hold out my paws to you.
https://youtu.be/LKo9fiBH5GA
Conor McGregor urges Irish leaders to act now and lockdown the country as coronavirus spreads.
A new graph at K-Dogs website says why.
K-Dog’s website (mine )
Perhaps a new morning ritual is in order, K-Dog.
Standing with feet together and hands clasped chest high in the praying mantis position, face the morning sun (I realize this can be a problem in Seattle, but face east anyway), and repeat nine times slowly and mindfully:
Things will be OK. I’m NOT going to die from the Corona Virus. This TOO shall pass.
And it will.
Now the economic aftermath on the other hand? You might want to give that some thought during the rest of the day. That’s likely to be with us a bit longer…
Isn’t that positive-thinking new-agey hocus pocus more of a Californian thang, ellipsis?
At least brh’s oranges will do you some good generally. 🙂
I take plenty of Vitamin C already. Have for going on 40 years now.
And if positive-thinking hocus pocus works for high-level infections you might as well give it a go for the economy as well. After all they keep telling us markets are all about … confidence.
Positive-thinking hocus pocus worked right up to 2008.
Good points. Markets ARE about confidence, but of course that confidence skyrockets when you know you’re manipulating them from the inside. “Market people” are all about passing off their risk to the rubes, of course. Which reminds me, I need top go pull all the rest of my paltry 401K contributions. Let the employer waste their money on that shit.
That would be a fucking stupid thing to do. This shit could kill me. I am old enough and my blood type is A+. I’m walking COVID food and you tell me I’m not going to die form it. How would you know that. How could you know that.
Trump delays a national lock down and the socialist transformation needed to get people working again. Take a look at the new graph on my website. Every day Trump delays means more people will die.
The 25th Amendment formally outlines the transition of power if the president is unable or unfit to serve.
KDFP
“That would be a fucking stupid thing to do. This shit could kill me. I am old enough and my blood type is A+. I’m walking COVID food….”
KDFP? Yer talkin’ me out of it….
I would think you’d be getting the fuck out of Seattle for the time being at least.
No I’m following the advice of people who have spent all their fucking lives studying disease.
Today expect a lot of fucking in my comments because I am mad as hell and I’m not going to take it any more. The Emperor is naked and ignores the only science that he has to control this epidemic. Trump thinks money is more important than people and at this point anybody who supports him is an evil fuck.
The science says he is wrong and for you to ignore the science MAKES YOU COMPLICIT.
I’m not a religious man in the conventional sense but I wish you would all burn for your sins. You bring pain on the world because you are all t0o lazy to read think and discuss.
I obviously don’t care for your opinion if you support Trump. But that is not enough. I also don’t care for your opinion if you don’t support Trump and are not doing anything to try and change things. If you are smart and don’t do anything that still makes you a zero and you can go fuck yourself because you are complicit with murder.
I’m writing my congressman demanding impeachment for incompetence now. Please do the same.
KDFFP
You know what the double ‘F’ is for.
https://chasingthesquirrel.com/assets/pics/voxGraph.png
Take a look at this graph. Every day Trump goes off singing in the rain or saying it is a beautiful day will mean more dead.
Understand the graph and you know why Trump must go. I did not make the graph so if you can’t understand it you are stupid and far more than I am.
Seriously.
Give it up, it did not work last time. Why? Because the people surrounding him that would have to execute the amendment are crazier than he is.
Oh man you are funny.
A riot of hilarity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80M4vlbnlHU
project new dawn
Followed him until he got to Trump. Not that I necessarily disagree, but I’m still not sure which side Trump sits on in all this. Might not even matter. If this is a unified globalist deep state thing, whoever’s president won’t matter at all. Probably won’t be the last pandemic scare either, since they’ve now proven that these things are easy as pie to execute. No telling how many super bugs they’ve got on file.
His analysis is good for the most part, but then he launches into the inevitable sales pitch. Too bad…
He is a salesman.
Word!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/congress-closing-nearly-2-trillion-122126952.html
A one time payment of 1200 dollars to every individual. This is bullshit. Stop being niggardly. We want 1200 a month as a social credit a la the Yang Plan. We are stockholder/citizens in the American Corporation. Stop treating us like temps and migrant workers.
Freeze rents and food prices. The Capitalists won’t like it. They don’t have to – they only have to comply or leave. Set up shop in Somalia why don’t you?
Competition? Still there but not at the level of the Jungle or big fish eating the little fish. Sorry BRH. He’s read Upton Sinclair’s “The Jungle”, Orwell, Dos Passon, Jack London and other classics, but what has he learned? Nothing.
People will still compete for luxuries and status – like even having a job. That’s how few there are going to be soon, what to speak of a “good job” or career.
Dos Passos not Passon.
niggardly. the N word variant. Oh my.
Nice sentiments. We shall soon see if Trump is up to the task of fending off the greedy capitalist bastards. I’m cautiously optimistic, but mostly for the short term only. Big capital always plays the long game. They’ll make temporary concessions to save face and then come back like slavering wolves just as soon as things begin to uptick again. And of course if Biden manages to get elected… Fuhget about it!
People will still compete for luxuries and status – like even having a job. That’s how few there are going to be soon, what to speak of a “good job” or career.
Yes, but for now you have a bell to ring and rounds to make. It is not a hard job and the work isn’t quite here yet. But dead there will be. You want to be professional so for now consider it a one time thing. Practice the moves.
Bring out your dead.
Freeze rents and food prices. The Capitalists won’t like it. They don’t have to – they only have to comply or leave. – Janos
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How many times must I remind you…….. rent and price controls from on high NEVER WORK! You always imagine there is some strong benevolent dictator who everyone will obey. It doesn’t work that way. It goes against human nature.
“The don’t work” – for whom don’t they work? They work fine for renters. They don’t work for the Capitalist class, your class who live to make obscene profit.
What’s your address? I’ll send you some brochures about Somalia and Afghanistan. Very little government to get in the way of Profit. But brings lots of Security. Little government means little police. You only keep what you can hold.
Have you read Indian (dot) Political Philosophy? They call it the Law of the Fish – their version of the Law of the Jungle. That’s all the Market is or can ever be, left to itself. But we intend to turn wolves into dogs; to cultivate the Jungle and make it bloom for Civilization. Far too much lattitude has been given to primitives like you.
But we intend to turn wolves into dogs; to cultivate the Jungle and make it bloom for Civilization. – Janos
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Listen to yourself. You ACTUALLY believe you can change human nature. How foolish of you.
I’m kind of going from dog to wolf myself.
That’s fine too. The Bible talks about beating swords into plowshares and plowshares into swords. We only hear about the former because the NWO has conquered the Churches. But both are valid at the right time.
for whom don’t they work? They work fine for renters. – Janos
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Oh really? Recall back to 1971. In August that year Nixon ‘closed the gold window’ and took various other actions (wage and price controls). Renters were forbidden to raise rents.
It happened that at that very time my employer wanted me to move back to NJ from Connecticut where I had lived for 2 years in Branford and had an office in Hamden. I started to search for an apartment in central Jersey. I reminded the rental office lady that under Nixon’s new edict she was not allowed to increase the rent on the just-vacated unit that I was proposing to rent. With great indignation she said “If you think we are going to rent that unit for the same amount as the prior tenant your *expletive* crazy!”
And that’s exactly what happened. They raised the rent and I paid it. The law of supply and demand will ultimately thwart the best laid plans of dictators.
They pass laws for show and then don’t enforce them. Like this one. Like the toothless resolutions to close the border. Overstay your Visa in India and watch the sleepy Civil Servants, both bureaucrats and police, become wide awake and attain an almost Germanic efficiency. They are Patriots and serious about protecting their Nation, the Land that they Love. Under Modi, they have gained even more power since National Socialism empowers such things.
O Q, you are wrong again! Stop universalizing your own limited experience in a deeply corrupt and dying society.
CV seems to have a real preference for NYC of all places, over and above the vast concentration of human carrion food occupying the place even. Funny that 9-11 was centered there as well. NYC seems to have a real persecution complex, doesn’t it? Add that to the growing list of things that are mighty queer about all this.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/airline-news/2020/03/24/new-york-travelers-told-self-quarantine-coronavirus-covid-19/2913222001/
Fourteen day self-quarantine before travel? Umm… Why not cut off travel out of NYC altogether? Close the fucking airports for commercial travel, maybe? Seems like a fairly large disconnect there for a state so proudly trumpeting that it’s in total lockdown mode…
Anyway. Beautiful early spring day out west here yesterday. Highs near 60, crystal clear blue skies, and nary a CV case in sight. Talked to the lady down the street who works records up at the hospital. ZERO cases reported thus far, with life proceeding in pretty much a normal fashion, other than the mandatory business closures. As an added bonus, I get to skip an upcoming totally unnecessary doctor’s appointment so that we don’t unnecessarily overburden the local medical system, which is currently showing no signs whatsoever of being unburdened. Another plus. The local hiking, running, golfing, and biking communities are having a field day with their time “at home,” evidently interpreting the rules of work from home quite liberally in their favor. A paid spring every day exercise break – what’s not to love? The fact that we don’t live in NYC or Seattle I guess. Not that I would ever consider that in my worst nightmares, even under normal conditions.
The true nature of people and society will be revealed.
“Albert Camus wrote, “What’s true of all the evils in the world is true of plague as well. It helps men to rise above themselves.”
“But as Camus knew, evil and crises do not make all men rise above themselves. Crises only make them discover themselves. And some discover a less inspiring humanity. As the crest of the wave that broke over Philadelphia began its sweep across the rest of the country, it was accompanied by the same terror that had silenced the streets there. Most men and women sacrificed and risked their lives only for those they loved most deeply: a child, a wife, a husband. Others, loving chiefly themselves, fled in terror even from them.“
John M. Barry
The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History
I believe it. Maybe this is a divine test?
No divine test. This is stupidity at work. I understand why your mind or any mind would go in the direction of thinking this is divine. It is after all, a beautiful fucking day. You want order in the universe and the crack in bunny-hopping feel good fantasy caused by out of control ignorant narcissism is a threat to your fantasy.
People have spent entire lives preparing for a pandemic and Trump ignores them all. This will have very dire consequences.
https://chasingthesquirrel.com/assets/pics/voxGraph.png
As you will know if you understand this graph.
KDFFP
The true nature of people and society will be revealed. – Pucker
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I’ve been meaning to thank you for posting all these excerpts from The Great Influenza. By happenstance I read the whole book just before this C-Virus thing hit. It is so apropos to our current situation.
The sentences “Most men and women sacrificed and risked their lives only for those they loved most deeply: a child, a wife, a husband. Others, loving chiefly themselves, fled in terror even from them.” say a lot about human nature, which socialists like Janos, K-Dog and other wishful thinkers on this board refuse to understand.
But there are better men who see the Nation as their family – or their Race. Or even Humanity.
That you don’t is clear. So sorry about that!
But there are better men who see the Nation as their family – or their Race. Or even Humanity. – Janos
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And these ‘better men’ I take it are those who would like to change human nature? Good luck wit dat.
Wrong. They simply won’t let inferior men destroy society and themselves. Thus they take the dangerous toy, that the ordinary man has no right to, away. Who recognizes human nature for what it is?
We do.
The Chinese took 2 separate swabs from Matt. One swab was a WuFlu test. I wonder what the second swab was for? A DNA test? The second swab gave Matt the WuFlu? The 14 day “Quarantine” could potentially be a lab experiment? Matt could be a big foreign mouse? They’re always using prisoners to test stuff, even in the US.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nsGjNMdCg3Y&t=658s
Good point. My sources say that the Chinese and Russia immediately recognized this as a US bio-terror attack. Russia of course locked down immediately and is largely virus free. China did what they could to contain everything on-site, but then set about re-exporting the virus to whence it came. Not that that was hard at all, with the US being completely “open for business” at the time. It remains to be seen whether Trump was read in on any of this, or whether he was just an unwitting dupe. Perhaps even a likely target. In that case, probably Sanders as well, as he was still contending when all of this was getting started. My guess is Trump was in the dark no matter what; plausible deniability, loose lips, and all that. No sense taking the chance with any of that, just as Shrub was at least initially kept in the dark about 9-11. Cheney handled all that.
A bioweapon that decimates friend and foe alike is not a very good weapon. Calling it a bio-weapon is exactly what Xi Jinping wants you to do.
The Holy Grail is to create a bioweapon that can wipe out the population of a large city, but burn out quickly so that it does not blow back and hit your own population. The Comm…munist Chinese will attempt to develop such a weapon because (a) the foreigners are working on it, and you have to copy the foreigners; and (b) the successful development of such a bioweapon would prove the superiority of the Chinese system and the Chinese race.
It’s like one of the Peter Seller’s movies….
Bullshit. If your goal was to induce panic in your own population, put them in lockdown, crash the financial markets, get another bailout, and pass some more favorable big capital laws, it’s ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching, all the way down. The people have ALWAYS been irrelevant, in case you’re forgotten 9-11 already. Add that to the list of upsides. To reinforce who’s in charge and just exactly what they’ll do to those who oppose them. Think bigger Dog!
Your not looking at this from the correct perspective.
100 years to Americans is forever to the Chinese nothing who typically look and plan for the next 100 years.
Losing 500,000,000 Chinese just means you have 1,000,000,000 still to play with.
Lose 500,000,000 Americans game over that’s all of America Canada, and Mexico and yes we are all North Americans.
Or it would be all of South America and a good portion of Central America.
depopulation of all 4 races? Deep state weapon?
I ask as questions.
Well obviously it means that there is a vaccine that this Faction have already taken. They will sell the vaccine to the World once it has fulfilled its mission of destruction.
Yeah, and that doesn’t mean Trump in all probability. This is coming from the UN Faction, the Satanist/Illuminati. Not the Zio-Masonics.
Russia has over 600 cases and growing.
who sent it to China? deep state? CIA?
Per communist propaganda.
Neither government is trust worthy but China LIES about everything to save face.
My money is on Wuhan market as epicenter or on the outside accidental release from Chinese biolab.
My guess is Trump was in the dark no matter what; plausible deniability, loose lips, and all that. No sense taking the chance with any of that, just as Shrub was at least initially kept in the dark about 9-11. Cheney handled all that.
LOL. It’s one of the most entertaining aspects of this forum … the fruitloop conspiracy theories – and the people who believe them … and write about them over and over. Really really trying hard to make them come true I guess.
And was Obama born in Indonesia or Kenya … I’m getting mixed messages!
Obama stated his muslim faith and his wife, Michael.
his words.
Source?
@majella
Egads you really don’t know anything do you.
Its all on youtube go look for it.
Kenya. Don’t be dense. If not, why did he get financial aid only given to foreign students?
Use your mind. Stop letting it rust.
Obama being born outside of the US is irrelevant at this time even if true.
He did how ever live in Indonesia and said so in dreams of my father that aspect is not even up for debate.
Again you troll and not very well my question is why?
For that OSF paycheck?
Just trying to gauge the level of nuttiness here.
By SIL and BIL who live in Maryland and worked in DC only watched Fox News, and were absolute believers in the Trump birther nonsense about Obama. These were intelligent people, who had developed a gross version of reality.
They were professionals, Republicans, and worked for the deep state – but their minds were like those of children.
The same with 9-11 conspiracy fruit-loops, and those who feel compelled to believe that COVID-19 is a deliberate biowarfare event (whether US or Chinese).
I’m not a troll – just because I state opinions that you don’t like – and anyway, people have such suspicious minds that they troll themselves … they don’t need any assistance from me.
@cartroll
You should do some research into what the cold case posse came up with the results are pretty surprising well not really but it does show the level of how far people and the media will go to cover up the truth coming out.
Once you see things for the way they really are then the conspiracy theories don’t seem as nutty as they used to in the end the truth is often harder to discern and weirder then many of the made up things.
While viruses that make the leap from animals to humans tend to start out as “mild”, as they adapt to the human body they often become more lethal in the second wave. This was the trajectory of the Spanish Flu in 1918. But, over time, viruses naturally tend to evolve toward a mean level of lethality which society generally considers acceptable. Eventually, after millions of people die, the Covid 19 virus will likely evolve towards the mean. Alternatively, like the Spanish Flu of 1918, it could evolve into a much more lethal strain as it adapts to the human body and strikes in a second wave in the Fall wreaking horrifying devastation on society. Alternatively, the psychos in government could deliberately engineer it into a more lethal strain?
All the psychos in government are doing is pretending we don’t have a problem and that they will get medical care no matter what the fuck happens.
https://youtu.be/maSKs_8pvyo
She shares my opine.
The “Good News” (apart from Jesus) is that most of the politicians are over 60 years of age.
The not so good news is that they have already all been vaccinated.
Youch you just rocketed straight to Alex Jones level right on past coast to coast.
Good News
Puck,
Said by Amy Schumer…
Woman asked her if she had heard “the Good News…have you found Jesus?” Amy replied …”Have you heard the bad news? We found him….”
Why not? Apparently none of them ever actually get sick.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/europe/prince-charles-coronavirus-gbr-intl/index.html
Question for anybody. I do not know the answer. If all the COVID virusi could be brought together in one place. A beaker jar for instance. How much would all the virusi together weigh? Would it be less than 10 pounds. Less than the weight of one person. Ten tons.
I’ll go with door number one.
Virusi? I’m thinking Virus=Viri. Octopus= Octopi, Hippopotomus=Hippopotomi,
Back to my spelling lessons now.
School days, school days
Dear old Golden Rule days
‘Reading and ‘riting and ‘rithmetic
Taught to the tune of the hick’ry stick
You were my queen in calico
I was your bashful, barefoot beau
And you wrote on my slate, “I Love You, Joe”
When we were a couple o’ kids
Actually ‘virus’ has no plural in Latin. Medically speaking, you just get ‘virus’ on your face.
If you absolutely have to use a plural, it has to be the English form ‘viruses’.
https://www.grammar-monster.com/plurals/plural_of_virus.htm
Thank you all for setting me straight.
I guess the Varusi are the space aliens I wish would land on the White House lawn and put thing right.
If you absolutely have to use a plural, it has to be the English form ‘viruses’. – GA
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I think Saint Elmo, coming up with Viri, is just having fun with words. It’s like, when, about a year ago someone on this board called the commenters here a bunch of doofuses and I suggested the term should be doofi.
correction:
coming up with Virusi
Someone else who shall remain nameless came up with ‘viri’ in all seriousness in a previous thread. Just trying to help. 🙂
Remember the 12th Monkey? Agents from the future went back to try and stop the Madman who released the Toxin.
During the Battle of Kurukshetra, at its height, Hanuman jumped off Arjuna’s flag and entered into the fray as well. Not sure how this relates, but I was moved to relate this.
Oh now I’ve got it: Hanuman IS a Monkey, the 12th!
I had a strange looking Cat that I called Hanuman. She was small and very muscular and dense. When sitting down, she formed a Pyramid shape. Such was my love for her, that at times it seemed like the world was emanating from her form.
Trump Hate-O-Meter is back up and running. It wasn’t easy. Steam punk technicians are few and far between.
Stand by.
Cargill, Elrond, Majella and any member of the former British Empire … from here on in your posts will be rated on the Trump Hate-O-Meter.
K-Dog, you are a special case.
Lefties, resume Hate. Go!
Brh
Well Backrow, I read that HITLER was a bad man. HITLER was a hater. HITLER wanted to rule the world! Three shots of turkey outta getcha’ goin’ for the day!
Hitler stated what his goals were clearly in Mein Kampf. He wanted the Germanic groups in Europe to have vast amounts of land to purify the Master Race. He wanted to kill everyone else and replace them. He had a good start before somebody finally stopped him.
He should have left YT and the Jews alone and gone to Africa. He would have reached his goal [s].
” He wanted to kill everyone else and replace them”
John,
I don’t believe that he mentioned killing anyone…he would displace them. If you can reference a passage in Mein Kampf suggesting otherwise, I would like to see it.
Thank you, Eli. Boobus Americanus needs to be cut back on a regular basis. What a noxious weed!
That does bring up an important point: Who is going to give us back the Lands that were stolen from us? And the ones that are being stolen from Us right now? Oh, they don’t matter because we don’t? And were supposed to accept a Global Authority that thinks this way?
Ok RIP, but Wild Turkey has been replaced by Bukoff Vodka. We usually stick to the Hemingway Rule round these parts (no drinks before noon) but here goes.
BRH
You are correct about the source of the hate in this country.
We have a small group of alt-right folks that generate hate, but the vast majority of hate stems from all the minor ethnic groups directed at the white majority, who to a large degree does not give a damn enough to hate anybody.
The Democratic Party has corralled this minority hatred aimed at the white majority to enrich its power base. Right now, a backlash is happening to reject their pandering as the minorities are figuring out that the Dems really do not care about them. I hope they are afraid. They sure have not put much effort into developing legitimate candidates for office.
Ironically it is the Obama administration doing nothing for anybody but Wall Street that started it.
Yeah, how many actual Klan members are there in the United States? About 50, and half of those are undercover FBI agents.
…and the other half ATF agents…..
And to steal an image from William Gayley Simpson’s “Which Way Western Man”: Unless you are pushing forward on the line of Scrimmage, you will be pushed back.
We’re doomed because you and the rest of the Normies and Muggles don’t get that. You’ve accepted the alien media that vilifies any White who advocates for his Team. So we will be pushed back and back over our own end zone again and again until we perish from the Earth.
Meanwhile cutthroat individual and corporate pushing are not only tolerated but lauded. So the most aggressive Whites join those teams and get rewarded as INDIVIDUALS even as their race and nations die.
There is so much more I would have to say about your comment but just don’t have the mental energy today….. so just let me say nice football metaphor and ‘Might Makes Right’.
“Lefties, resume Hate. Go!”
ha ha, too good too good
KDFP
Thank you BRH. I do deserve special consideration. My objection to Trump has to do with hard science and not opinion. It has to do with:
EPIDEMIOLOGY – The branch of medical science that deals with the incidence, distribution, and control of disease in a population.
Something Big Orange don’t know shit about.
Why should he? He was a real estate developer.
I guess that’s the one thing he hasn’t claimed to be the world’s greatest expert in – well, at least, not yet. Here’s the OTHER things he knows more about than anybody, or almost anybody (if he’s got NigIQwl in mind at the time)
https://youtu.be/5GqJna9hpTE
Oh, wait! No, he DOESS know more than the doctors!
https://youtu.be/2QF4TihwFT4
Sen. Hassan (DNH)
Anti Trump stupid statement of the AM.
We cannot have an economy with out having health, aimed at Trump wanting to start opening up the country by Easter.
Uh, try the opposite statement.
We cannot have a health care system without an economy.
Cuomo wants all the high tech vents to NY, rightfully so. However, our economy has not produced the 30000 vents that he wants and probably will need. Trump is not responsible for people dying, no one is to blame here except the damn virus.
BTW, there is a small hantavirus outbreak in China with 32 folks being tested. This is starting to sound very suspicious.
There has to be a point of economy reduction that we cannot go beyond, with the result being catastrophe.
BTW, the Dem view that all the money will go to the poor instead of the companies will produce exactly zero more vents.
As long as there are people there will be an economy. The economy is only existent because of the people. So actually, keeping the populace healthy is paramount for a society that wants a healthy economy. Right? Trump actually is responsible John. He should have ended all international flights and closed the borders in January. He did not want to do that. And none of the bureaucrats did. Because they only cared about the economy. And so here we are. And the testing fiasco. If the CDC had its act together in January we could have been doing proactive testing to prevent spread. There is a lot of things that could have been done.
Come on, SSL. You are grasping at anti-Trump straws.
Trump closed the border to the Asia on January 29. He was attacked for being racist and xenophobic. Same thing happened when the European ban was put into place.
The testing situation was done to us by a government that made no investment into the possibility of a virus attack. Bill Gates warned of the possibility in 2015, OBama’s time, and no one paid attention. Last year a group did a study of what would happen if a pandemic hit, they were also ignored by both sides of the aisle. So here we are.
If it makes you feel better, blame Trump, he can handle it. But the real culprits are in the Deep State and their ignoring the potential situation. I do not remember a great Democratic, or Progressive upsurge of interest in building vents, masks or gowns last year or in 2015. Beware of hindsight, it is useless. I notice there is almost no one who is saying that we need to keep the build up in place once the plague abates.
I am glad someone is using their head over the economy. The health care system will evaporate with no economy to finance it. Then what? Where are all the vents going to come from if there is no source of resources or capital to build them?
My point with Trump is that he seems a little too focused on the money end of this thing. I do understand your point about the economy. I am not just brushing that aside because obviously people need to earn a living. And I agree with you that the incompetence and/or willful ignorance is systemwide in the government. A lot of heads really need to roll (I always like that analogy :-P). I do agree that we should maintain and build up our supplies even after this pestilence passes since we know at some point there will be another one. And I am in full support of bringing all of our manufacturing back home and producing what we need right here. That way we never get into a situation where we are dependent on someone else to help us when we are down.
Trump is focused on the economic impact? Thank God someone is. The Senate finally passed the relief bill which may just save our collective butts.
But he is racist and xenophobic.
I thought the beginning of all wisdom was to call a thing by its real name. Am I wrong?
Just a believer in what the MSM wants you to think.
If you were KDFP successful and they started on you, how would you handle that group of clods?
With ease.
A visitor asked a Spartan why he wasn’t working in his fields. He said, We take care of ourselves. That’s why we even have the fields in the first place.
The slaves were working his fields. Now we have machines and don’t need slaves or employees. So are we all going to be Spartan Lords now? Not if John can help it: he wants us all to be outdated farm equipment rusting in the rain and dying out on the streets.
“outdated farm equipment ”
Janos,
I’ve heard the term used to describe…former slaves.
I would not use the term myself…forget I ever mentioned it….
Here is your Teacher. Accepting his lower class status and crudity is your first test. Here is the reason that the Aryan Brotherhood triumphed in California prisons and put an end to the Black reign of terror there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3POj1PXE4
He’s out now and is a self help guru for the lower class. What’s a burpee btw? Some kind of exericise, evidently. He swears by them.
So for those of you who don’t believe it’s a real thing. One of my cousins who went to New Orleans for Mardi Gras (eye rolls) started feeling bad early this week with fever and a sore throat. She got tested for the flu and the test came back negative so her doctor said she needed to get tested for coronavirus. She did the drive thru test in Baton Rouge but is probably not going to get the test results until the end of the week. So in the meantime she is confined to her room and isn’t directly interacting with her husband or kids until she has more answers. I’m worried they may have it too. But guess what. If you have no obvious symptoms, no test for you! Everybody was saying I was a loon for saying Mardi Gras should have been cancelled, and now not so much. I just think watching too many horror movies made me become somewhat of a prepper lol. Plus duh! Being in a tightly packed crowd of nasties is never a good thing.
SSL, it astounds me that the DHS with an annual budget of 52 Billion dollars would not prepare for an epidemic like this. It was not a matter of if it would occur, but when it would happen. How about some foresight by these well compensated people. Just one tenth of that annual budget would have provided 500,000 vents. It is not like they would spoil. They could be stored for years. And that is 1/10th of their budget for 1 year. Didn’t these people ever watch “The Andromeda Strain” or “Contagion”,
Nope, not an issue. The real issue is the desire of the Deep State to spend everything they can on social and defense, guns and butter. They would never spend the money to build thousands of vents, masks, gowns etc. to put into storage in case we have an epidemic someday. Watch and see, the buildup that is happening now will be liquidated as the costs of maintaining them builds up.
The main goal of the CDC all these years it turns out was fighting racism and obesity. That’s where all the money went.
I know! Honestly, I am real shocked and disappointed at how much we aren’t ready for this. You are right! Anyone should have been able to see that a pandemic could happen at any point. Especially with so many people around the world crowding into nasty cities. And we give so many billions and billions to foreign countries and governments and weird research programs. That money should have been spent right here on things we actually need!
We have no weapons against the virus. Why haven’t we spent billions on the vaccine lab in Texas that had their funding cut after the SARS and Swine flu epidemics.
There is a really good question.
What is different today? Why is SARS 2 having so much attention paid to it where the last few epidemics were largely ignored? Is there an agenda here, could it be that the Anti-Trump movement is inspiring a desire to destroy “his economy”, a la Bill Maher.
Prince Charles has Covid 19. The Queen is being monitored.
Poor Charles. However, there is a video showing him on March 12 with a group of people shaking hands and definitely not staying six feet apart. Does everyone have to thumb their noses at the isolation rules.
Hantavirus showing up in China.
Dr. Mark Siegel announced last night that studies on the structure of the virus dismiss the possibility of it being manufactured, it is natural selection.
Maybe the Elites aren’t worried as much because they will get the best healthcare in the world if they do get sick? But we agree. We should have continued research on getting vaccines for coronaviruses like SARS made because they say that the “experts” knew that another SARS-like virus would come along any day.
We need to kill viruses in situ. Per the conspiracy folks, (I am one definitely ), killing viruses would remove a tool of the PTB.
Ever see the movie “Outbreak”. Remember Donald Sutherland’s character? He was going to incinerate a town to protect a bio-weapon.
Vaccines are secondary, a preventive. We need to kill these suckers!
The quintessential Weak Man. His sons disregarded him in favor of their globalist mother, Diane of the Ephesians. Looking for a strong woman to take her place, poor Harry ended up with a Black social climber.
Diane of the Ephesians – Janos
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You come up with these off-the-wall arcane references, sounding very erudite and leave us and our Google app to figure out what you’re getting at. You set it all up so that in your last line you could beef about Harry marrying a black woman. I do agree, however, that your assessment that she’s a social climber is correct (as I gather from things I’ve read)…
But, hey, who knows, maybe she’s unbelievable between the sheets and ‘once you go black, etc. etc.’
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Public health and national security experts shake their heads when President Donald Trump says the coronavirus “came out of nowhere” and “blindsided the world.”
They’ve been warning about the next pandemic for years and criticized the Trump administration’s decision in 2018 to dismantle a National Security Council directorate at the White House charged with preparing for when, not if, another pandemic would hit the nation.
“It would be nice if the office was still there,” Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institute of Health, told Congress this week. “I wouldn’t necessarily characterize it as a mistake (to eliminate the unit). I would say we worked very well with that office.”
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Q: I have no doubt but that she is a Tigress in the sack. Poor Harry. He had beautiful blondes but perhaps they just lay still thinking of England and how much booty they were going to be marrying into. More fool them. They should have let their bodies groove to the that of the Prince of Cats.
Contagion’s technical advisor has stated the movie was created as a warning, not entertainment.
Ignorance of the keep your distance rules is the cause of the epidemic’s rapid spread. Feel bad for your cousin. People thumbing their noses at the requested isolation procedures is forcing governments to lockdown and enforce the rules. Folks are literally bringing this onto themselves by not following the rules.
“Folks are literally bringing this onto themselves by not following the rules.
…privilege-besotted sons of bitches….
Nope, just indicator of the stupidification of America.
El, my wife went through the chemo stuff in 2014. keep yours safe and secure if you can. I carry a 32 oz spray bottle of 91 % iso alcohol everywhere I go. I spray everything and save the super market wipes. I spray them down and reuse them.
I was afraid this shit would come a knockin’ and I have quite a lot of 91%. Also the local liquor store has a large amount of 190 proof grain alcohol. First time I have seen it front and center,
Saint,
Thanks for the heads-up. We remain in deep quarantine, save when hospital bound. I understand the hazard. Thanks again.
You rock. Tell us more about this Horror known as the Mardi Gras.
“Plus duh! Being in a tightly packed crowd of nasties is never a good thing.”
sorry to hear about your family! that’s scary..
New Orleans has gotta be one of the dirtiest big cities I’ve been to in the US.. it’s gross
So I see that the stimulus package will add $600 a week to each and every unemployment check through July You can be sure that anyone who’s still in business will make damn sure that their production prices will rise accordingly. Just wait and see what groceries will be costing in a two months. Meanwhile, those on Social Security receive zero, ip, nada.I guess that’s only fair,huh
Went the the market this AM. Already started!
Like Gomer Pyle said..Surprise Surprise Surprise
when have food prices not risen?
Back in 1970, someone could eat on $1 a day.
Get a course in economics under your belt
But wages have not risen in proportion. What kind of society allows something like that? Only a very poor “Housewife” or Frau, economics being defined as the art of the House.
Physician, heal thyself.
fool. Ive taken Economics, Business, etc. It is mostly BS.
inflation is not going away.
Maybe Greta T. can be in the class when she is out of quarantine.
when have food prices not risen? – malthuss
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It was approximately 1968 and I was auditing a store in Atlantic City. I had a meal (lunch or dinner? I forget) in the Knife and Fork Inn, which I came to find out was an upscale restaurant that had a fine reputation extending back to 1912. I had coffee with my meal and when the bill came I was astonished and pissed that they had charged me $0.25. I had never paid more than $0.10 up till then. And what do we pay today?
AND IF IT WAS A SILVER DIME NOW WORTH AT LEAST $3.
malth, if you could find a silver dime it would be worth about a buck.
http://www.coinflation.com/
Irony rules the world.
The blue zones, the urbanized areas of the country, both coasts, Colorado, New Mexico, Illinois have been spending the last three years fighting Trump in all the ways you can think of.
Sanctuary cities.
Open borders
Ignoring homelessness, mental illness,
Increasing taxes to support illegals and MS13 gangs
Allowing minority criminals to get away with it
Fostering drug culture
Arming the cops to the teeth while allowing criminal elements to take over
Climate change over all
Etc!
So it is the Blue urbanized zones that are getting clobbered by the virus and the lack of preparedness to face it. Of course, the very dense populated are going to spread the disease faster. Of course, the Blue zones, under the control of the Democratic Party have been negligent in having health resources available for epidemic viruses. The Blues and hopefully the Democrats are going to take it in the arse over this absolute fiasco.
Get off Trump’s butt, he was handed a total fiasco to handle a situation like this by generations of really stupid politicians in the Deep State.
Cuomo admitted this AM that huh, I guess there are no more vents to be had. No s**t, Sherlock. He is cruising closer and closer to Trump every day.
Well said. The fecklessness of these People is simply beyond belief. They want to rub our noses in diversity and get revenge at the cost of their own safety and health.
So let’s do a quick roundup of the Fake Nooz greatest hits so far.
We have MLK-bustgate, Koigate, Crowdgate, Two-scoopsgate, Ukrainegate, Russian-Troofgate … and now, for your reading enjoyment, I present to you
Fishtankcleanergate:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/fake-news-hacks-claim-man-died-after-ingesting-chloroquine-because-of-trump-leaves-out-the-fact-he-actually-drank-fish-tank-cleaner/
Drumpf is killing people!
Trump drinks from aquariums? Is that his secret of eternal youth and virility? Melania is not enough!
No excuse for her. She came from Europe so I assume she had a decent education. Better than here anyway and that is a very reasonable assumption. She should know better and has the ability not to give Trump any trim until he grows a brain cell about all this.
She has no excuse.
Shaking my head over this one.
The guy and his wife heard that chloroquinine cured the virus. Somewhere he found out that The ingredient was in aquarium debris and algae killer. So when he and his wife got symptomatic, someone had to tell him aquarium treatment would cure them. Go find that person. Any way he took the equivalent of 21/2 days dose of the chloroquine dose. He lasted 30 minutes and she is in critical care.
The proper dosage is currently being experimented with around the country, especially in NY State. I sure hope it works.
See. Now if he took a dose of vodka with an OJ chaser, not chloroquine, he’d be on the road to recovery, not in critical care and close to death.
HE died, she is in CC.
Your close but not there.
Tonic water has quinin in it can’t kill yourself drinking a gallon of that with gin a day.
Also supplement it with zinc vitamins.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/03/forty_percent_of_hospitalizations_for_coronavirus_arent_old_people.html
Did they release a more potent strain here? Or has it just mutated in the dark corridors, the trash filled valleys called American streets among the sub-human descendants of the Great Race who dwell there?
Anglin thinks it’s because Americans are fat – unlike most of the world.
No it is a case of you accepting the first data as fact despite the virus being new and nobody knowing a lot about it. Its behavior is surprising epidemiologists in its ability to preferentially spread rapidly in certain groups. Many things about the virus are not yet known. It is difficult to keep an open mind but that is what must be done.
What is known and what the American public is too stupid to know is that Trump is doing everything wrong. It is already in the history books. There is no need to wait for a verdict. Trumps behavior ignores well established science.
If you are over 60 please try and curse him with your last words if it comes to that. If you are 40’ish and are one who gets it bad enough to be admitted to an ICU; it is more likely than not that you will have the opportunity to damn Trump to hell with last words.
People are going to die unnecessarily. People used to call that manslaughter at least. Why does big orange daddy get a pass?
KDFP
KDFP
How is KDFP going to pull ventilators out of his butt. They do not exist, Cuomo finally admitted that today. If you want to assail someone about the non existence of equipment, clobber the last thirty years of the Deep State.
I hope all of you are drinking your healthful screwdrivers. Everybody has to pitch in if we’re going to win this fight.
Mixologist … now there’s a career with a future.
Spend a little extra money, buy Tito’s Handmade Vodka, (and I’m reading off the label now):
“Crafted in an old fashioned Pot Still by America’s Original Microdistillery”
AUSTIN ? TEXAS
OK, the word is getting out. The local package store guy is a Spaniard; he likes it when we come in because he can talk back and forth with the in laws. We explained to him about the medicinal characteristics of Vodka and OJ — screwdrivers — and he was interested, said he might try to find a way to advertise it as such, like an old time elixir from the travelling medicine show. So far it’s the only thing I’ve heard of as both preventative and a cure. Who has something better? I can see him standing out front of his store atop a barrel, hawking vials of vodka at $2 a shot to passersby. “All ailments cured, all injuries healed, all fears allayed”. Good for what ails ya.
Brh
If you are ailing but can’t feel it, are you still ailing?
Probably. Of course a “happy mind” is a most potent weapon in the arsenal of healing. Conviviality.
Yeah that’s basically what Henry James said.
Excuse me, that’s William James, Henry’s psychologist brother.
“The greatest discovery of my generation is that a man can alter his life by altering his attitude.”– William James, c1900
“Pessimism leads to weakness, optimism to power.” — William James
cool quote
Optimism also leads to financial crashes,unfortunately.
And to designing living arrangements based on oil that you think is going to last forever.
Thankfully we have orange juice!
And vodka…
Realism includes both pessimism (if things are bad or going bad and cannot be reversed) and optimism (if things are good or can be made so). Thus at its best, it is simply Wisdom.
A really outstanding statement.
Plan B optimists work well, plan on the worst scenario and be pleased when things work out better.
We need a bunch of them in our governments. If the Deep State had listened to its own study last year, we would have been much better off. On this one, everybody in DC is at fault.
I think rather than a really outstanding statement, it’s what over here would be called a statement of the bleedin’ obvious.
Well, America loves the Will aspect of Reality. And sometimes people overestimate how bad things are, or are not willing or able to put forth the effort to turn them around. America loves such rags to riches or heroic effort stories.
But yes, there are times that one must simply retreat or run. Even whole armies or even a Nation or Civilization. Canute ordered the tide to go back, but it did not.
Policy must be made not on projected super efforts on the part of Heroes, but on average efforts on the part of the average person. Perhaps one could then ask more of them now and then if circumstances warrant and be surprised at what a contented people are willing and able to give.
Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJSyGlmT3lk
gotta say too, BRH.. great spelling, etc. after what.. 5 hours of vodka drinking??
hear hear, man
Very good, BRH!
Our Gauleiter, Herr Walz here in Minnesota just issued a “stay at home” suggestion.. not really an order yet..
“critical industry” includes liquor stores. I’m serious. You can still go to the liquor store in Minnesota during a pandemic. If I still drank, I’d be overjoyed about that, now not really. At least maybe less intoxicated driving out there, we’ll see.
“acceptable” activities not covered by this “suggestion/order”: fishing
so. I don’t see how life changes here at all! 🙂
everybody normally stays at least 6 feet away from each other.. and if you can still go to get a 12 of Miller & throw a line in the water then I don’t see the big deal
Aren’t the lakes still frozen over up there in Minn., PA?
I want “our” Pete back. What is his take on all this? Paranoia is often simply a heightened state of awareness.
I’m a half full type of guy there, Janos…. and while I’m thinking of it.. shit! so are you!.. especially with all the South Shall Rise Again schtick you enjoy going on about..
🙂
speaking of paranoia..
..and for 50 points there Janos.. which album from 1981 by the Kinks featured the song, Destroyer.. with the line.. “Paranoia they destroy ya” ???
🙂
You are not Clan, not Of the Body. I’ve got the special glasses that allow me to SEE. Pete is a brother, albeit a greatly erring one.
yes, indeed BRH
that’s what augers are for lol
I’m thinking of the 90s movie ‘Grumpy Old Men’, with Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau (and Ann Margret), old guys out ice fishing on frozen lake in Minnesota, haha.
oh yea..good movie
Ann Margret was a sultry vixen in that one! 😉
Ann-Margret.
Whichever way you spell it, she was sweet.
With a $51.67 BILLION dollar budget…
http://www.got-truth.com/docs/With%20a%2051%20billion%20dollar%20budget.pdf
K-Dog
You asked how Boris was performing (at least I presume you meant Boris).
Here’s how Boris is performing:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-boris-johnson-medical-equipment-eu-brexit-a9424631.html
Leading a country short of all coronavirus equipment, Boris turned down an offer to join in an EU emergency bulk buy, to which we were entitled during the transition period.
Not just Brexshit, but Brexshit that will kill people.
Thanks. I think you might feel like me. I was raised to believe that being a politician meant that you were a public servant. That you had a real job to serve the public and you got paid for it. And like a clerk in a store or an auto mechanic you were supposed to do what the job demanded. Serve the public. But I was raised in another galaxy in a future far far away. Not here that is for sure.
KDFP
I wonder, GA, how many vents are existent around the world. Or other equipment? What is the lead time to manufacture all these devices, or PPE or even toilet paper? If we order a vent now, how long before it shows up?
I watch Cuomo and Trump’s group every day. All the recommendations being ignored by enough people to spread the virus like wild fire. Today we hear that Wealthy New Yorkers are fleeing NYC like crazy. The Group says that they all need to quarantine themselves where they go for 14 days. Yeah, right! DeSantis is trying to block Florida immigrants from NY.
The problem with the continuing increasing infection rates is not Trump’s fault, not Cuomo’s, not Pence’s, not Fauci’s, not Schumer’s, or Pelosi’s, or Boris’ or China’s. It is the fault of the general population not being able to follow simple rules and regulations. Even the millennials are putting the blame on GenZ, as we watch their stupidity on the beaches.
BTW, today’s data has shown that 50% of the newer infections are in people under 45 and they are starting to die. Wake up kids!
JohnAZ
Both Trump and Boris, from where I’m standing, let too many people get infected before they took it seriously enough. If they didn’t take it seriously enough, why would you expect everyone else to? ‘Leader’ either means something or it doesn’t. And our blond berk fancies himself Churchillian.
Of course at this point people are responsible for doing their bit to flatten the curve, but there is NO excuse for turning down an offer that means all your European neighbours are getting ventilators and other equipment faster than you when you have far less of everything than you’re going to need.
Meanwhile some NHS staff are wearing their kids science goggles. What he did was a disgrace.
Incidentally, for the minimisers, a 21-year-old woman with no underlying health conditions has just died over here.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52041709
Yeah, we are getting 50% occurrence under age 45 and deaths are occurring now. Gen Zer tonight tweeting an apology for beach parties. Too late!.
You are blaming failure of leadership on the people. That is despicable.
Failure of common sense enough blame to go around to include we the people.
An Enemy of America fall to Corvid.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2020-03-24/obit-coronavirus-maurice-berger-63-curator-covid-19-complications
Or was he just old and sick?
age 81
Terrence McNally, one of America’s great playwrights whose prolific career included winning Tony Awards for the plays “Love! Valour! Compassion!” and “Master Class” and the musicals “Ragtime” and “Kiss of the Spider Woman,” has died of complications from the coronavirus. He was 81.
McNally died Tuesday at Sarasota Memorial Hospital in Sarasota, Florida, according to representative Matt Polk. McNally was a lung cancer survivor who lived with chronic inflammatory lung disease.
His plays and musicals explored how people connect — or fail to. With wit and thoughtfulness, he tackled the strains in families, war, and relationships and probed the spark and costs of creativity. He was an openly gay writer who wrote about homophobia, love and AIDS.
“I like to work with people who are a lot more talented and smarter than me, who make fewer mistakes than I do, and who can call me out when I do something lazy,” he told LA Stage Times in 2013. “A lot of people stop learning in life, and that’s their tragedy.”
The English words “economy” and “economics” can be traced back to the Greek word ????????? (i.e. “household management”), a composite word derived from ????? (“house;household;home”) and ???? (“manage; distribute;to deal out;dispense”) by way of ????????? (“household management”).
Wiki, bitches.
They spent $6 Trillion to fight “Terrorists”, but they couldn’t spend a few hundred million to stockpile N95 masks.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u3YrI37pltM
Yup, that about says it. Also, supporting illegal immigrants, of all nationalities. Building the wall would’ve been a drop in the bucket compared to what we have spent.
We need to stockpile PPE, hospitals, nurses, all forms of health care personnel, if the goal is superb real time service and adequate emergency capability.
I wonder who we can find to fund this effort after the Corona fiasco.
Our Deep State would rather play war!
ppe?
Personal protection equipment
Gowns, face masks , eye shields, or in critical areas body suits
You think the Wall would have saved you from Covid19?
No, just made funds available. Do I think anyone would have spent it wisely? Nah!
“fight “Terrorists”
Puck,
Some asshole was arrested for terrorism this date for coughing on in-store produce and claiming he was CV infected. Think it was in New York.
Wednesday and it is almost to 900 comments here. That is a lot and even more surprising is that very little of it is cut and paste. That is unusual. A lot of chaff has been thrown up to break up chains of dissent. That is why I see so many comments.
Trumps mental illness moves him further from reality every day. Trump can’t understand that it is not all about money. It is not in Trump to understand life in any other way than by penury considerations. Trumps mental horsepower is confined by the limits of narcissism ego and elite privilege. Trump is without compassion and empathy who ignores the limits that science would put on his behavior because that would contravene his notion of being center in the universe.
Every day there is not a full lock-down means more people will get sick. This graph show you. It is in the fucking math.
https://chasingthesquirrel.com/assets/pics/voxGraph.png
Yes it is at my website under the Connor McGregor video. Connor gets it. I wish you did too. KDFP
This graph shows you.
Ah “full lockdown”, there it is.
Too bad Chairman Mao isn’t here to enforce full lockdown, and an enthusiastic ‘Red Guard’, available to build and staff the camps for the Comrade Citizens who offer even the mildest of criticism of the state of ‘Full Lockdown’.
Brh
wow
great website bud!
well organized
Absinthe – The Green Fairy
Absinthe is traditionally served by pouring it into a glass over which a special spoon is suspended. A sugar lump is placed on the perforated spoon, and cold water is trickled through it to sweeten and dilute the absinthe. The water renders absinthe a milky green color. The ritual is an essential part of the drink, which is also known as ‘la fée verte’, or ‘the green fairy’ in French. Drink it at your own risk – in the words of Oscar Wilde:
“After the first glass of absinthe you see things as you wish they were. After the second you see them as they are not. Finally you see things as they really are, and that is the most horrible thing in the world.”
JS: If BRH is going to resort to using a chemical advantage, I am forced to do the same. But nonetheless, It is thru Will alone that my mind is set in motion. The fairy will merely be an aid. I am off to procure some.
Time weighs heavily on the hands of Immortals. Not wild about Wilde as per the shameful use to which he put his immortality, but the Brother could really lay down some good lines now and then as the above shows.
Trump wants to save the economy in time for the election and significant growth in the mortuary industry may just do it.
If we were being attracted by a foreign power nobody would be talking about the economy. A war department would understand they have to fix it and get to work.
Attempting to maintain business as usual is unconscionable narcissistic and childish.
I heard Trump had a conference with God to time the virus onset to make his election more likely.
That statement is about as absurd as most of yours.
UK has removed the Wuhan virus from the HCID list, due to a low mortality rate.
See my post at the bottom.
You are a victim of fear porn, TDS, or both.
Phew!
You’re playing with dynamite there, Vlad, absinthe … sure Oscar Wilde partook, and Baudelaire, and Hemingway … but they were Gods. Vodka is one thing, about 80 proof, but absinthe, good God man! For mere mortals? 100 proof, and it causes hallucinations! I thought absinthe had been banned decades ago, ever since it drove Zelda Fitzgerald into fits of madness, and Lost Generation poet Harry Crosby shot himself and his mistress at the Ritz Hilton in Manhattan in 1929.
Brh
Ah, couldn’t find it. The store was utterly paranoid and very busy, with every having to stay six feet away from everyone else or they’d be closed down. Really? Many stores are very relaxed with no worrying about it. In any case, I didn’t see it and there was no one to ask for help: the other person was out on the street holding people in line out there.
I settled for Canadian Whiskey. But I will get some soon. It’s legal in the Northwest. It’s not 100 proof, at least not typically. And the hallucinations may have been propaganda. Or else they made it very differently back then, with some of the “herbs” accentuated.
“with some of the “herbs” accentuated”
Janos,
Wormwood, as I recall.
Wormwood is ‘Chernobyl’ in Russian…
A lot more than just wormwood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absinthe
“Wormwood” is the name of a star in Revelation 8:10-11: “The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch….
Myth most of those people were also playing with heroin at the same time.
I have a nice bottle of Absinth with the sugar cube holder and a way to drip water over the sugar into a glass.
Fun stuff.
Alcohol. You guys, don’t you know bud will get you through this better? The new ‘Biden’ strain really cleans your clock or so I have heard. Pleasant confusion and as as long as you are high on it you believe everything Trump says. The shit makes you into a stupid moron just like everyone else. Get ‘Biden’ and for a little while you won’t be upset.
For one thing, K-Dog, Janos doesn’t support Trump.
But at least he’s cool about, not raving hysterically about what a moron the guy is all the time.
And I haven’t seen him comment on Biden one way or another.
about it
For two things alcohol is also inappropriate because you can get through times of no money easier than you can get through times of no weed.
I resent ‘hysterical raving’ go fuck yourself.
C’mon K-Dog, you need to have a thicker skin than that if you’re running for the highest office in the land.
That was pretty uncool.
No I don’t. The buck stops here. As president I won’t take bullshit or suffer fools. Taking care of business and setting limits is more important than what you think.
“The new ‘Biden’ strain’
ha!
oh yeah, that one.. forgetfulness, confusion, loss of thought..and…and… well…..
you know the thing!!
😉
A great idea. Just as many Leftists like to drink and have their own bars, etc, some Conservatives like to smoke. Surely they should organize and put out a thusly named “strain” of bud intellectual lite.
Note to Janos: look up Harry Crosby, 1899-1929, somebody with your sensibilities might appreciate.
Well, what do you know? No crisis goes to waste.
Cuomo (D)(1): “Could a ‘Draft Cuomo’ Movement Be in the Democrats’ Future?” [National Review]. “It’s not out of the question if Biden keeps looking out of touch and irrelevant. Democrats are publicly talking about “contingency options” for their July convention in Milwaukee in case the coronavirus persists in being a public-health threat. But privately, some are also talking about needing a Plan B if Joe Biden, their nominee apparent, continues to flounder. Some Democrats are openly talking up New York governor Andrew Cuomo, whose profile has soared during the crisis, as a Biden stand-in. Yesterday, a Draft Cuomo 2020 account on Twitter announced that ‘Times have changed & we need Gov. Cuomo to be the nominee. Our next POTUS must be one w/an ability to lead thru this crisis.’ Charles Pierce, the politics blogger for Esquire magazine, wrote a piece headlined ‘With Two Words, Andrew Cuomo Established Himself as the Leader This Country Needs Now.’ He enthused that Cuomo’s news conference last Friday ‘essentially (shutting) down the economy of his state . . . was a master class in leveling with the public.’” • Charlie Pierce, Schwärmer. What a shame.
Cuomo (D)(2): “Andrew Cuomo shows how to lead during the coronavirus crisis” [Editorial Board, WaPo]. “[New York’s] needs — for equipment, hospital beds, personnel and expertise — are as daunting as the scale of the outbreak. So is its need for effective, tough-minded, compassionate leadership. Fortunately, that is what Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo has been providing. When the pandemic’s history is written, there will be long chapters detailing the mistakes made by leaders. Some of those, inevitably, will be Mr. Cuomo’s. But what’s notable is what he is getting right as a communicator, priority-setter, admonisher and empathetic voice of reason.” • Sounds like an endorsement, to me (and nobody’s floating Cuomo’s name for VP, either.) Can it possibly be that these buffoons didn’t know Joe Biden’s condition when they foisted him on the voters? Or, worse, they did? I must say, I’m enjoying the picture of Obama taking Biden aside and telling him that he’s done. But holy moley, what an election season….
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2020/03/200pm-water-cooler-3-25-2020.html
Dems definitely need to ditch Biden.
What none of us want to see, in a Biden-Trump debate, is a repeat of Admiral Stockdale’s performance in the ’92 VP debate. Biden seems to be deteriorating before our very eyes. He’d be more prepared than Stockdale was but there’s still the matter of alzheimers setting in.
Brh
That is for sure. Biden has not stepped up to the plate and shown himself to be less competent than even Trump. This is a serious criticism because Biden is the Democratic cause célèbre and if Biden wanted to show leadership he could get all the media he wants. So where is he? No excuse. At least Bernie has the excuse that he can lead all he wants but the media ignores him anyway. The media does not ignore Biden. Biden has been MIA and it is time for a courts martial. — KDFP
Utter comedy aside, Cuomo has the face of a Halloween mask, even after the Fake Nooz adjusts for color and contrast.
No chance against Trump, who is a master of the only medium that matters in the clown show that passes for the electoral process.
People are still starving in Africa,
https://www.breitbart.com/news/who-will-feed-us-viral-shutdown-hits-n-africas-precarious-workers/
https://www.voanews.com/science-health/coronavirus-outbreak/india-shuts-down-taj-mahal-ramps-measures-control-coronavirus
https://youtu.be/Pg99vyhbdIw
Watch this and if you have any doubts that COVID should be taken far more seriously than it being taken you are crazy.
Life Care Center Of Kirkland
than it is being taken
All it convinced me of after watching the whole thing is that it should NOT be taken all that seriously. I believe this China virus should be taken somewhat seriously, but this video wasn’t convincing at all.
1) all those who died were nursing home residents in their 80s.
2) all the staff being interviewed were weepy females.
I’d go after you for # 2) but I’ll leave that job to GA. I noted though that they were not weepy at all. They are in shock. For weeks they were working around the clock and were overwhelmed. Far from making them weepy that has flattened their emotions.
I am going after you for #1) you got that WRONG. The first to die were in their 80’s. Then the deaths got younger.
Exactly how old do people have to be before you consider them useless.
Fair enough, they were overwhelmed. But let’s admit it, that’s not a very convincing video. Extremely old people dying in a nursing home is not a very persuasive scenario that the whole population is at risk.
Age implies greater health risks. But it’s not strictly-speaking a question of age, it’s a question of the heroic efforts that have to be made to keep someone alive. There are trade-offs. It’s not for me to answer your question. Medical personnel make these decisions as they become necessary on an ad hoc basis, but with guidelines. When they have a “code” situation, they are exposing themselves to all sorts of bodily fluids so maybe in this pandemic their efforts become less “heroic” — with fewer personnel involved, for example.
Bottom line, hard choices are going to have to be made in the coming weeks & months. Everyone can’t be saved.
Addendum: Eveyone can’t be saved because the health care system has to be saved.
The amazing thing is Trump still does not think he has to do anything! KDFP
ppe? –malthuss
Personal Protective Equipment
Looks like the Ds and the Rs finally found something they can marginally agree on:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/politics/cnntv-nancy-pelosi-stimulus-bill/index.html
So nice to see them playing nice again.
Although there appears to be a few dissenters in the ranks:
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/25/21194278/lindsey-graham-coronavirus-stimulus
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/25/coronavirus-money-senate-bill-would-be-terrible-for-new-york-cuomo-says.html
What’re ya gonna do?
Go to work, get sick and die. What are you going to do?
The main threatened group are retired and hopefully staying at home.
The carriers are younger folks who were told early on that the virus is not dangerous to them and they have not isolated themselves. From what I have seen, opening things up to younger folks may not change much of anything.
It doesn’t matter if a threatened group is sequestered if the rest of society isn’t managing the infection. In time the virus will find its way into sequestered groups. It is also ignorant to think all retired can stay at home. Some elderly don’t even have a home. I do not mean you. You said hopefully.
A makeshift morgue has been set up outside a hospital in Manhattan, New York, to deal with a rising number of coronavirus deaths in the city.
move on nothing to see here
GET BACK TO WORK
A Feasability Study – Outer Limits episode 29
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The abductees now realize they’re trapped with no chance of ever returning home. They come to accept the fact that their lives are over. Full submission to the Magainoids cannot protect them from inadvertent infection. All that’s left is defiance and the will to protect the rest of humanity. Forming a circle, they willfully contract the disease from one of their own party, making it clear that mankind will choose death over slavery on Magainos.
‘
That theme appears to have been lifted from Eric Blair’s opus, when subversives were alleged to mingle with the sub class in order to become catch syphilis just so they could infect BigBrother.
LA is in lockdown, but how do you lock down 100,000 homeless people?
I was thinking they could be rounded up and herded into the new stadium where the LA Rams play, provided services and generally taken care of. There’s a lot more infections than Covid19 in that crowd.
Its ‘The Day of the Locust’ in LA. The setting for the original Day of the Locust was also in LA.
Brh
yep.. considering the hepatitis/HIV junkie population there, the Kungflu is gonna put wipe alot of those ppl out
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52000173
Harvey Weinstein also infected. Is this a strike against the Chinese and their allies, the Zio-Masonics by the Black Venetians or European Illuminati and their Satanist allies?
One Black guy I talked to said Russia did it. We didn’t because we’re allied with the Chinese. He presented a logical case, but didn’t seem to realize that that didn’t mean it was actual. Light skinned: a full blood wouldn’t have argued it or couldn’t have: he would have just yelled it over and over again.
Who are the Black Venetians? You mean like Othello?
No, like the Black Prince of Wales. Evil!
In terms of skin tone, almost everyone is black compared to me – except albinos. The Irish called the Danes and Normans the Black Invaders – very dark compared to the Swedish and Norwegian invaders.
And yet they themselves use the term “black Irish” refering to attitude, usually contrarian or obstreperous, not hue.
Yet we call the dark haired and eyed Paleo-Atlantid Irish, “the Black Irish”.
The Red Headed Neanderthals were the first Irishmen, first in after the ice melted.
Nope had to do with jet black hair.
“Black Irish” was used to describe someone with blue-black hair, blue eyes, and pale white skin.
More seriously – google it. As a masterful man, you should know about it. They were at the Game of Money Manipulation before the Rothschilds.
Here to get you started:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62hwjoEO_Gs
Fascinating. So that’s how ballet was invented. At 17:00, what recent jailhouse “suicide” comes to mind?
Light skinned: a full blood wouldn’t have argued it or couldn’t have: he would have just yelled it over and over again.
You really are an insult to pond scum … but I shan’t feed the troll.
Like Canute you shout at the incoming tide. Abos are the dumbest and ugliest of all – as you well know. You can’t stand a White Man who knows the Truth about the Races. Because we come out very well in comparison.
Being such a dumb bunny MAGA white child who knows absolutely nothing about anything … you miss the whole point of the Canute story … he sat out there and watched the tide come in – in order to tell his people that he was not a god and could not hold back the tide.
In fact you’re such a dumb-ass you’re embarrassing … there should be at least SOME moderation on here to make sure you’re squashed like a bug. Anyway – you provide entertainment – like a fool at court.
Every black guy in the world could run rings around you – plus they are MUCH better lovers … which is why you hate them of course.
There is some moderation, if Janos or I piss JHK off enough he lets us know. Consider the possibility that Janos could be black as coal and is just here to yank your chain. He might even wear green. Things are not always what they seem.
Consider the possibility that Janos could be black as coal and is just here to yank your chain.
Sure – I’m always wary of that, and DFTT, but still sometimes you’re gotta stand up for what is right. Anyway – outside of that, all his reasoning is ridiculous. Too much moonshine for sure. Impure alcohol will always do it to ya.
That’s not very nice. Why are you so afraid of Us that you want to eliminate us?
The movie The Hunt has been released here. Don’t know about Australia. You will enjoy it very much.
Canute ordered the Tide to go back but it wouldn’t listen. Similarly, you can huff and puff all you want, but it won’t change the fact of racial inequality. More and more people are awakening to the Lie that you have devoted your life to.
As per your example I should have pointed out. You don’t believe in it any more than I do, right?
Cargill, pay attention.
Janos is not MAGA!
Apparently you think anyone not carrying around Mao’s Little Red Book is MAGA.
Canute ordered the Tide to go back but it wouldn’t listen.
Precisely … to demonstrate clearly to his fawning i\minions that he was just a man and not a god. Read your history, comrade.
“Every black guy in the world could run rings around you – plus they are MUCH better lovers …”
Cargill;
THAT statement evinces more racial stereotyping than anything Janos ever has offered.
Jesus….
You noticed that too, ef? Hahahaha. Don’t you get it, ef? They don’t really believe any of it.
ef: per our discussion in the earlier thread about black promiscuity.
But a good ten points below Asians, including (Deccan) Indians.
“plus they are MUCH better lovers…” — Gargyle
Revealing.
Is Gargyle a lady?
At another site, a ‘woman’ posted a professional photo of herself. A GREAT beauty. and she would post about basketball, the Lakers, her man is Black so she knows about driving while Black.
She was a fake. a woman, maybe, but not the one in the photo.
TATE–“plus they are MUCH better lovers…” Black women can be great in bed.
I hadn’t considered that, we’re so inundated by TV advertising with the image of the all-powerful black buck dominating the white woman mandingo-style. But of course they come in both sexes. So yeah maybe Gargyle has some black cooze on the down-low.
Various theories,
Israel did it to start WW3.
USA did it to wreck China.
China did it to depopulate its useless [or soon to be useless] old people.
any other stabs at who dunnit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK1Yq-jVWHY
The Democrats may have done it.
https://www.wvwnews.net/content/index.php?/news_story/chutzpah_adl_wants_a_federal_bailout.html
Chutzpah is best defined by the traditional description: One who kills their parents and then pleads for clemency on account of being an orphan..
Draft coming back right on schedule. Men have failed to win any wars. We need an all female army. This will help reduce the population too. Immigrant women will carry “us” forwards on the power of their wombs. Their wombs will be our tombs.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/24/service-commission-propose-women-sign-draft/
It is only a study. I don’t see it happening. Having a draft is contrary to privatization of resources. There would be one less piece of the pie to distribute as a political favor.
@JHK
James, do they ever crack you up and break you down into belly laughter?
This is the craziest bunch of clueless mutha phuquas I have ever witnessed – makin’ me laugh.
~toktomi~
UK removes Wuhan virus from list of high consequence infectious diseases due to low mortality rate.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid
“Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall) …”
Are the mice here ready to admit this has been media fear porn?
Team Open Society fails to get Drumpf for the 3rd time.
Ok, but is it that narrow? Just to get Trump? Dr Berger says that they knew the Global Economy was going to crash and they decided to do a reset, avoiding blame and getting to stay in power thereby.
No, probably not. The globalist blood suckers can also use it to buy up assets at fire sale prices, while getting their OS friendly puppets across the EU and Asia to test out and implement new mechanisms for control ala China. They also shift the frame of societal consciousness in the process.
The virus is real just like the seasonal flu is real, but the response is IMO a means to other ends.
Dr John Bergman (not Berger)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=onrWLT6XYKk&feature=emb_logo
“that narrow? Just to get Trump? Dr Berger says that they knew the Global Economy was going to crash and they decided to do a reset…”
Janos,
I disagree with the premise. It is bond-villain-stroking-a-white-cat level of conspiracy that rarely occurs in real life.
Human avarice and stupidity is a better bet.
They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall) …”
Do the British – seriously – believe the numbers coming out of Wuhan? Are they really that incredulous, or are they that desperate for a good-news story that there is light at the end of some tunnel?
They are being ridiculous. No Chinese figures can be taken as is.
You are being ridiculous. China is at war with the pathogen just as much as anyone. If you think all they do is lie then you are racist.
Too many doctors are involved. A grand conspiracy could not be maintained. Doctors get together they are going to talk shop and there is nothing anybody can do to stop that. Besides you want them to talk. Someday it might save your life.
If you think all they do is lie then you are racist.
No – you’re wrong. Nothing to do with race … I think the US Administration lies all the time too, and they are basically white like me.
I think the Chinese Government lies all the time because I think it lies all the time – not a racial issue comrade.
Maybe they don’t lie all the time but they sure do lie pretty often.
You like to throw the “racist” epithet around. Chris Martensen doesn’t believe the Chicoms are telling the truth about their numbers. Is he racist?
You yourself said that blood type matters. Was this a strike by the Type O’s against the A’s and B’s?
You’ve literally just stated the opposite of what is in the document.
The initial fear was based on the figures available in the “early stages of the outbreak,” which would have been largely based on Chinese data.
They specifically state that as things have evolved (meaning other data sets are available from other places) the outlook has changed.
It kills 80 year olds, like a relatively normal strain of the flu can and does.
Drumpf lives on. Whatever will you do, grabbler?
Did you mean “Are they really that (in)credulous“?
It would really be nice if people gave a flying fuck.
Trump wants the churches filled at Easter. So we can watch him stick his finger in holy water and watch it sizzle I’l guess. I don’t think many people are going to be wanting to go to church when 10,000 people a day are dying from COVID.
When do you think CONVID-19 will reach the death toll in these seasons “Mr. President.”?
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2010-2011.html
10,000 per day huh? You’re a fucking fear mongering loser, “Kunt Dog.
“10,000 per day huh? You’re a fucking fear mongering loser, “Kunt Dog.”
The art of the polemic at it’s finest.
1k a day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O97qUn4N-ec
So we can watch him stick his finger in holy water and watch it sizzle – K-Dog
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Has Trump been to church anytime since he was inaugurated? I don’t recall even one news clip of him in church. I wish a reporter would ask him if he believes Christ is ACTUALLY the ‘son of God’ and rose from the dead on Easter Day. If the answer is yes, yes and yes, follow up by asking if he thinks God is angry with him for poking Stormy Daniels….. or for stiffing his contractors.
OK, we probably have at most 100 people that regularly post here. Most of them are old f@@@s I believe. Who will be the first virus victim?
Victim? What the fuck is a Victim?
HAHAHAHAHA Pardon Moi you Frenchies out there.
Victim did not look right. I guess it is the correct word. My booboo.
If it’s me that blows my whole OJ/Vodka screwdriver theory. I’ll be headed up to your place to lift a few gallons of that 190 proof grain alcohol you been hoarding.
A few shots of that firewater will set things right. Can it be mixed with cranberry juice?
Brh
Andromeda strain be damned how ever I do like drinking but not that kind of fire water.
Ha! Do you remember the old coot in Andromeda Strain was drinking Sterno? Yuck!
I remember an old chief on one of my ships drinking hair tonic. He just needed a drink is all.
Not worried about it at all.
Who will be the first victim?
Let’s hope it’s the ones who ‘just know’ they’re going to a better place. They’ve got nothing to lose and everything to gain, from their point of view, so should be happy if they find themselves at the head of the queue. Non?
And they’d be doing a fine Christian thing by leaving the rest of us, who aren’t going to be joining the angels, a few more years of the only life we have.
They wouldn’t be ‘victims’, they’d be the ‘chosen’. 🙂
In fact I hope no-one on here gets it, even the ones who resort to vile insults when someone disagrees with them or comes from a different philosophical place
We’ll file that under the category:
KILL ALL THE CHRISTIANS FIRST. LET THEIR GOD SORT THEM OUT.
Spare the Comrades.
Does that about nail it?
Not at all. Left to ‘God’, in my tongue-in-cheek ‘proposition’, he’d take the non-Christians first and chuck them to their destiny with a gleeful ‘well ye ken the noo!’
https://www.friendsofeurope.org/insights/brexit-voters-ye-ken-the-noo/
For the translation…
No, brh, I was merely making a lighthearted suggestion that you good Christian folks might even choose to be the ‘chosen’, since you claim to prefer what is coming to this vale of tears.
There’s probably endless vodka and orange there too, plus that other tipple you mention frequently. And delicious tapas.
Or the other take is that true Christians (there are very few) simply may help their neighbors out more than others. Like say going to get groceries for their elderly neighbors who understandably don’t want to get out in the middle of the pandemic.
SSL –
the behaviour you describe is not exclusive to Christians. Good job, as there so few of you).
One needn’t hold theistic views of any kind to love one another, or to Treat others as one would like to be treated. That’s called humanitarianism
Well yes that is true. But Jesus started the Golden Rule.
” But Jesus started the Golden Rule.”
SSL,
Well, I will accept that he codified the concept.”
Yeah, I think I got the order of that wrong didn’t I. Was it Socrates who actually spoke of the Golden Rule first?
The Silver rule may have preceded it: Do not do unto others what you would not have them do unto you.
This is found in Ancient Babylon and China. It certainly protects us from a lot of busy bodies who think they know what other people need. Scrooge paid his taxes and minded his own business – an asset to society in this at least.
The Golden Rule is higher, but people should be accomplished at the level of the Silver Rule first.
Wow! I didn’t even know there was a Silver Rule!
I think every major religion has a Golden Rule.
Even Zorasters had a golden rule.
They all pretty much say the same thing.
And they’d be doing a fine Christian thing by leaving the rest of us, who aren’t going to be joining the angels, a few more years of the only life we have. – GA
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Plus it would free up a ventilator.
HAH! And I guess the Atheists planned very poorly since they are basically in charge of the government and their the ones who have also been involved in shipping all of our production overseas for years and otherwise ravaging the public coffers for their pet projects and PC sensibilities. Maybe the atheists need to free up the ventilators. I can’t believe you sometimes!!!!
Reagan was a professing Christian; Thatcher was a professing Christian. And Donald Trump was a professing Christian when he gave the contracts for his luxury products to Mexico, Guatemala, China and Bangladesh. And other countries I don’t recall – at least two.
And both Bush and Blair were professing Christians when they took us into an illegal war in Iraq, in Bush’s case also attempting to amalgamate Iraq in people’s minds with 9/11.
Blair started out as an Anglican, then after his war he converted to join his missus in Catholicism. No matter what self-justification came out of his mealy mouth, the man had a conscience problem after selling his soul and his country to Bush. I never saw a man age so quickly after it was done. He’s done well out of it in any case. I expect he feels forgiven and blessed at this stage.
He and his wife are among the most venally greedy people walking the earth. Praise the Lord.
Forgiven by ‘God’ that is. He wants to be forgiven by the British people and it’s never going to happen.
“… a better place.”
Alba,
I just want to go where the good dogs go….
Hmm… No surprise here, looks like Boeing’s got it’s hand out for some stimulus money, after gross mismanagement and shameless profit taking over the past several years (decades?) have put them on the verge of bankruptcy. But what’s this? They’re still too proud to beg, putting conditions on any money they proudly take. Some really big cojones on display here, as the locals over here are wont to say. Massively big cojones! Don’t they also still do most of their assembly work in Seattle, one the major hot spots for CV? That’s pretty interesting too.
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(CNN) Boeing, which recently asked lawmakers for a massive financial aid package to prop up its industry, could qualify for a special $17 billion slice of the proposed $2 trillion stimulus package.
It’s not clear, however, whether the company would actually take the funds.
The aerospace giant is among the companies that would qualify for the government-backed loans reserved “for businesses critical to maintaining national security,” and the only one that has made it clear that it needs the assistance.
The company is intricately linked to both the US government and the nation’s economy. It is the country’s largest exporter, is a major government contractor, and consistently ranks among the top 10 companies lobbying federal officials, with millions spent annually. The company has also come under scrutiny from lawmakers and the Federal Aviation Administration after two fatal 737 MAX crashes killed 346 people and internal documents showed the company mocked and belittled its regulators.
Boeing said in a statement shortly after the Senate passed the stimulus package that the company’s “top priority is to protect our workforce and support our extensive supply chain, and the [Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security] Act will help provide adequate measures to help address the pandemic.”
The company also said it was “forgoing pay for our CEO and board chairman, suspending our dividend until further notice, and extending our existing pause of any share repurchasing until further notice.”
Boeing said last week that “a minimum of $60 billion” in public and private loans is necessary “to manage the pressure on the aviation sector and the economy as a whole.” It said it would share “much of any liquidity support to Boeing” with its vast network of suppliers.
Then, CEO David Calhoun suggested Tuesday that the company would turn down federal assistance if it meant US taxpayers would essentially become stockholders in the company. That approach was used to support banks and automakers during the 2008 recession — and the government ultimately sold its stake later for billions of dollars in profit.
“I don’t have a need for an equity stake,” Calhoun said in an interview on Fox Business. If the government demands stake in the company in exchange for the loan guarantees, he said the company will “just look at all the other options, and there are plenty of them.”
“If you attach too many things to it, of course you take a different course,” he said.
Boeing did not respond to a request for comment from CNN on Wednesday evening.
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/politics/boeing-bailout/index.html
I remember when Boeing announced that the 787 was going to be final assembled in Seattle but would be modularized and most of the manufacturing activity would be conducted by offshore sub contractors. My reaction was”Are you kidding me. These bozos are done”. They have been going down ever since.
The idea of sub contracting work was really popular at the time. A bunch of rebellious youth probably brought the theory out of their MBA programs from our lovely higher education system. Anyway, the major problem here is that to the sub contractor, there is no real ownership to the parts they build for Boeing. They are just another customer. They will follow the specs, no improvements, no innovation. To Boeing, no learning curve. It infects Boeing with a specsmanship, who cares attitude. Their jobs depend on blame games with contractors instead of making the products better. We end up making compromises that endanger the safety of customers instead of making improvements to eliminate the problem in the first place. What you end up with is a fleet of 737s sitting on the ground with a management that does not have a clue what to do about it.
Sorta like socialism! Not ironic that Boeing is located in Seattle where it has been infected with socialists from the area, a known Progressive empire.
Boeing did commit the mortal sin of business. They turned a winner into a loser. Spectacularly. And for no good reason. It was time for a new plane. The 737 is like 60 years old. The decision to put the engine above the wing was so colossally stupid it boggles the mind. The worst design decision since Adam and Eve. That was what sunk Boeing, not this drivel you wrote. GE Aircraft Engines did the same thing in Evendale and it worked beautifully, and Cincinnati is not exactly a bastion of liberalism.
Buy tinfoil shares!Reminds me of one of the Shuttle astronauts, preChallenger, who opined that it took courage to be sitting atop several thousand tonnes of high explosive and liquid oxygen which had been assembled by myriad lowest bidders.
And right on time, the “blame China” Greek chorus begins. How much you wanna bet that this fuels a new hot war with China as the new “Face of Terrorism” in the aftermath of CV? Although you can be sure that they’ll find a way to drag Russia into it as well, because Russia. Comforting to know that the beat goes on, no matter what else is going on. Read this considering that a basic modus operandi of the Borg is to accuse its enemies of what it, itself, is doing; this all begins to come into perfect focus. Wall to wall useful idiots in the lying MSM, indeed!
Yes, Blame China for the Virus
A bungled response in Western countries is no reason to take the heat off China. If China had a different government, the world could have been spared this terrible pandemic.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/25/blame-china-and-xi-jinping-for-coronavirus-pandemic/
So I am a little perplexed that you don’t feel China is to blame for the virus. I mean, most of the “experts” agree that it originated from China. Whether it is natural or manmade we will never know probably. And the bungled response in the West? Well, the Western Elites have already been responsible for killing their own people and replacing them so bungled responses are probably baked in. I would say they are half assed rather than bungled. They are very clearly more concerned about their stock portfolios and billion dollar businesses than they are the lives and wellbeing of the population. Your take on this whole episode has shaken me to the core as I thought you would be looking at this from a different angle. But who knows? Maybe your angle is the right one. Time will tell. Maybe.
The blame game. SSL, recognize that this is the prime directive of the polity of the world. Power people, by their nature, compete with each other. Affiliators love each other and find ways to compete in a friendly fashion, achievers compete with improving things, but power folks compete with each other. Hence the popularity of the blame game.
These national leaders compete with each other at their level. It has cost millions of lives over the centuries as they compete. Whose fault is that? Why do we follow these ahole power people into the gates of hell.
Once the virus passes, if it does, the blame game will be the center of what the Deep State occupies itself.
Who is really to blame for this global debacle?
If the conspiracy folks are correct and somebody did start this virus, that entity is to blame as should be exposed and summarily punished, by the world.
This will certainly never happen. Why? Because if it is true, it is one or more of the global power club that is the culprit. The good old boys club will never hit one of their own.
So the politicians will banter back and forth for a number of years until something bigger comes up, doing what they do so well, generating BS on paper that no one ever reads, accomplishing nothing and worrying how to get re-elected.
So who is at fault here, who should be blamed.
The people of the world for enduring the shenanigans of the power club. This has been the fate of the human race since the first alpha human precursor took over the tribe.
So ultimately what you are saying is that it doesn’t matter in the end how or where the virus came from. It is almost as if it is every person for themselves. Since our governments are filled with these cliques of Elites it is no wonder the response seems so disheveled. And see that is why Janos is right about this. The power people need to be reigned in by a government that actually does operate for the people and the nation. These cliques need to be broken up and subjugated to the people and the nation. Until we can honestly break this cycle that your are referring to then we are going to repeat the mistakes of the past.
JohnAZ – you do pretty fair job of throwing “blame” around…conversely, I cannot recall any occasion when I have “blamed” anything on anyone, aside from Himself, perhaps.
It’s said that the US is country of great personal responsibility. It must be true, judging by the lawyer population, whose sole purpose is find SOMEONE (anyone, even) who is responsible for your tragedy.
For a measly 30-40%, of course…
So if you are feeling so important today consider the humble Honeybee.I saw one yesterday. She was probably an early riser.
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/what-is-it-like-to-be-a-bee?utm_source=pocket-newtab
Neat article! I saw a honeybee yesterday feeding on clovers. Can you believe they have hair coming out of their eyes?! Such a strange looking creature up close huh. But yet so important to the food chain. God is so amazing.
We may have another virus, this new one involving a jump from rats to humans in Shaanxi Province, China called the “Hantavirus” ?????. Apparently, it causes hemorrhaging.
“Hantavirus (a family deadly rodent-borne viruses) responsible for hemorrhagic fever with renal syndrome or cardiopulmonary syndrome
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MnoIewUnek0
I think you like to torment me :-). You know I’ve already started worrying about the Hantavirus lol. But I promised myself yesterday that I’m not going to carried away with this. What will be will be.
Viruses tend to naturally mix inside of human cells. You have a Covid 19 virus that is extremely contagious but asymptomatic in about half of all cases. And you have the Hantavirus that can jump from rats to humans but ordinarily cannot jump from human to human. They could mix inside of human cells? Hantavirus can cause horrifying hemorrhaging.
Like Ebola.
Puck,
The Hantavirus is regularly found in the “four corners” area of our Southwest. Read Laurie Garrett’s “The Coming Plague”
Prairie dogs. Cases every year.
Hantavirus isn’t that contagious as far as we know. You actually have to get it from a rodent. It isn’t contagious between people. you have to be around rat droppings or kick up or breathe the dust from rat droppings or handling a rat.
Speaking of rats, can a young girl catch the Hantavirus from creepy Uncle Joe when when he nuzzles her curly locks?
Did the Left release Corona to unseat Trump? Another theory.
Did the Left release Corona to unseat Trump? Another theory.
This thing probably isn’t doing Trump any harm – notwithstanding his murderous bungling of the response.
Why the questions. The evidence is that it is natural and in the face of a panic why do you feed the flames? A week from now there could be 500 dead a day. There is no particular reason why sociopathic narcissists would be targeted any more than anyone else. There is the possibility however remote that Trump would show competency and leadership instead of self-serving exploits. Would a covid-terrorist risk that? If so they won’t be hard to find. They will all be blood type O.
1k a day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O97qUn4N-ec
As Camus says, in the face of Evil, All will be Revealed….
RALPH DROLLINGER, a minister who leads a weekly Bible study group for President Donald Trump’s cabinet, released a new interpretation of the coronavirus pandemic this week, arguing that the crisis represents an act of God’s judgment.
The coronavirus, Drollinger argues in two blog posts and a rambling Bible study guide published in the past few days, is a form of God’s wrath upon nations, but not one as severe as the floods described in the Old Testament or the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
“Relative to the coronavirus pandemic crisis, this is not God’s abandonment wrath nor His cataclysmic wrath, rather it is sowing and reaping wrath,” wrote Drollinger. “A biblically astute evaluation of the situation strongly suggests that America and other countries of the world are reaping what China has sown due to their leaders’ recklessness and lack of candor and transparency.”
A biblically astute evaluation of the situation …
Now there is the oxymoron of the year. Thank god for atheists!
Age old baloney! If God intended for us to be decimated by his wrath through disease, why give us the brain power to defeat the diseases. Do we honestly believe that God is our enemy? God is much more interested in our motivations.
Habakkuk 3:4-6
His radiance was like the sunlight; rays flashed from His hand, where His power is hidden. Plague went before Him, and pestilence followed in His steps. He stood and measured the earth; He looked and startled the nations; the ancient mountains crumbled; the perpetual hills collapsed. His ways are everlasting.
What should be the ethnicity, gender, and nationality of the new Marvel Comics Supervillain called “Virus Man”?
Virus Man uses Millennials and Generation Z who harbor resentment and hatred of Baby Boomers and their diminished Life Expectations to spread the “Boomer Remover” Covid 19 virus.
Avatars
God creates the cosmos, puts the laws of physics into place to guide its development, the solar system develops, earth cools down enough to retain water. Life happens and evolves to the point that humanoids happen. God says, I will give you the ability to reason and a conscience to manage this marvelous world.
Man has been a disaster ever since. By not using his God given attributes to overcome his animal nature, Man creates his own hell on earth. Right now, most of the world’s problems stem from us not being able to control procreation. Including the increasing virulence of disease attacks.
“In the Beginning, God created Man. And Man was Bored.”
God creates the cosmos, puts the laws of physics into place to guide its development, the solar system develops, earth cools down enough to retain water. Life happens …
The trouble with bible-bashers is they can’t explain who created god. The infinity of the universe (or possibly multiverse) is a thing of wonder and intrigue for us to contemplate and research.
You don’t need a dude with a white beard in the mix … surplus to requirements … it’s wondrous enough on its own.
God has no beard. We have no idea what God looks like, he is spirit. We do not even have the capability to conceive of anything with the majesty of God. You have an adversarial relationship with the Creator, too bad for you.
In your spare time, look up mirror universes. Fascinating read.
Then picture spiritualism, the Transfiguration and the Ascension.
I bet you still believe in Santa Claus … might as well.
What happens when it mutates. It could change boomer remover into an all purpose cleaner.
Coronavirus: Briton, 21, with no apparent pre-existing health conditions dies after contracting COVID-19
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Over the past two weeks, there have been more cases of younger people getting the disease.
Lock-Down now. The probability of mutation is in direct proportion to the number infected.
You are 100% correct!
Did you see a minister in Louisiana is refusing to shut down his church and wants all his congregation to attend services? Just like that Moonie in S. Korea that later apologized.
Could be that the various forms the virus takes as it spreads is adapting to more robust immune responses? This is one of the deadliest examples of the stupidity of post adolescence. I’m not going to do what I am told, just because.
Glenn Beck said he was willing to die to save the economy. Other Mormon and Capitalist types are saying similar things.
It’s an unreasonable position in my perspective. There is nothing wrong with trying to protect all members of our families. Older people are actually very valuable to the community because of their wisdom and skills that can be taught. There are ways to continue working without spreading the virus. At the store I go to most often all the employees are wearing masks and gloves. They disinfect the surfaces often and if you shop in there for a while you see them doing so, sometimes twice. So there is a way to keep things going and also keep people safe but it is as if the thought leaders only give one or two options and it is so ridiculous.
Just back from a recon patrol. Plenty of TP in the store. Employees wearing gloves. I asked how often they change them. Answer: a couple times a day. What a joke. I told them they should change them every time they touch something. obviously that is not going to happen. On a bright note I picked up a 4 lb. bag of oranges for 99 cents and a 7 lb cantaloupe from Guatemala for 99 cents. Ain’t no way you can grow, pick, pack, truck 3000 miles, unpack, stock and sell a 7 lb. cantaloupe for 99 cents. Kinda like selling gasoline for $1.69. Drill a 15,000 foot well. Frack, pump ,truck,refine,truck again, pump again. well how long can this last?
Man, I’m good. I guesstimated the melon weighed 7 lbs.Actually it was 6 lb 2 oz. i weighed it cause I’m kinda anal about that stuff.
16.16 cents a pound
A better deal than the penny candy at the corner store
stelmosfire, where are you?
Malth asks”Where are you?” I could tell you but that would blow my OPSEC.If you would peruse the comments I already told you where I was.
If Glenn Beck said that, I might reconsider. But I’m more with SSL. There are ways to do both. We’ll have to try.
Reading about Bill Gates a lot lately. His philanthropy has been centered on infectious disease for a long time. He has been a repository of disease data and consequent opinion. His only problem is that he still thinks it is the government that has to fix the problem. Seattle socialism must come from drinking out of the Puget Sound.
The government is a source of money, period. And direction. Right now the various governments are powerless against the epidemic. Why? They can provide education and direction but individual responsibility to avoid personal contact is what will stop the plague.
Our drive toward socialism during the last thirty years has removed much of the individual nature of our society. Should we be surprised by the response right now?
Bill would make a great manager of an effort against the disease front, and not just Corona virus. He needs the power at Federal level.
But the solutions are research and individual “smarts”.
Our drive toward socialism during the last thirty years has removed much of the individual nature of our society. Should we be surprised by the response right now?
It’s actually the other way … the drive to a harsher form of dog-eat-dog capitalism (along with extreme cultural conservatism) was kick-started around Thatcher-Reagan, and hasn’t abated since.
Conservative media has also been in the ascendency (Fox News, plus everything else owned by Murdoch), plus all manner of “think tanks” and “research units” and “policy centres” funded by the billionaire class of the extreme right – Koch brothers.
The Federalist Society is a cult – it has been recruiting and brain-washing lawyers for, and now provides judges everywhere. The Supreme Court has been corrupted by the confirmation of Gorsuch and Kavanaugh. Democracy has been corrupted by gerrymander and voter suppression.
Socialism is in retreat comrade, and the world is worse off. However the crisis is actually resulting in more good stuff happening – some more caring, more working together, more unselfishness, more understanding of what is important.
And all despite the repugnant Golden Globe and the Republican senate, who continue to be the traitors they are.
Socialism is in retreat comrade, and the world is worse off.
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How so comrade tavarish?
actually all you gotta ask is
How so tovarish??
since tovarish is comrade
Da, tavarish comrade, only I have a sable hat and you don’t.
How so comrade tavarish?
In every way possible, digger (Aussie version of tavarish) – the nasty brutish individualism and hyper-consumerist fantasies of late capitalism. What do you think JHK is talking about week after week? At least when he’s not diving down conspiracy rabbit-holes.
Hmm,..nasty brutish individualism.. hyper-consumerist fantasies
You should remember these words when the Chinese bury you alive for having tested positive for the corona virus. Or when they dump you dead in a ditch you dug as a grave for thinking the wrong thoughts and eating too much food, you and 200 million other useless eaters. Now how’s my shrimp on that barbie?
Like Russia Trutherism, right Cargill?
Even in the midst of global pandemic, the US deep state crackdown cranks up to even more dizzying heights. This after tightening sanctions even tighter on Iran, also conveniently targeted by the pandemic. Think these motherfuckers don’t take socialism (and any recalcitrant capitalist states as well) pretty damn seriously? Coming soon to a locale near you!
https://www.foxnews.com/world/venezuelan-president-maduro-drug-trafficking-doj
Good! Most Excellent!
The Vatican Medusa and its serpent tentacles, be it Communism Socialism Jihadism Khameneism Satanic Progressivism …, are beaten down by the invisible and not so invisible hand of God.
With the Jesuit Vatican takeover of Protestantism, the Children Of The Prophets, the authors and creators of America in the name and spirit of the Hebrew Prophets, have turned their back on the Vatican serpents and returned to their origins, embracing Capitalism Evangelism and the Light of Zion!
And just to add to it, your Commie Chinese handlers should be tried and executed under the Nuremberg War Crimes for mass murder cultural genocide and live organ harvesting.
“They wouldn’t be ‘victims’, they’d be the ‘chosen’.”
That was probably my major red-pilling. 2012.
‘When Victims Rule’
Duckduckgo it. PDF available free on the intertubes.
The Dow is up 22 % in two days. Somebody is pullin’ in some serious jing during this fiasco. I smell a bear trap.
Apparently the corona virus kills one’s sense of smell, so that one becomes confused between sniffing a bear trap and a bull trap.
So did Finca go to the mountains yet??
🙂
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/25/dhs-briefing-nyc-morgues-near-capacity-148259
Bet they’re almost always near capacity. The Hoax can be easily perpetrated because Civilization has become a desperate affair of eternally exhausted people and always overflowing trash barrels. It’s hard to begin with, but it can be attained as Europe and East Asia showed. But when you bring in massive numbers of immigrants who aren’t needed and/or offshore your industrial base with subsequent massive unemployment, the collapse begins. Add it the undermining of social norms via the media, with subsequent massive single motherhood and children being raised by the same, and the Disaster is upon you.
Still trying to find the Higher Third. Anglin has ruled it a hoax and I’m leaning more in that direction right now. The swings are becoming smaller as I zero in on the Truth.
1k a day..estimated deaths from CV..see my link above.
How many from the Cancer virus? Where is the link for that?
and/or offshore your base…NOT and or..AND.
Anglin has ruled it a hoax..Which Anglin? links?
Every Election Year has a Disease. Facts
SARS 2004
AVAIAN 2008
SWINE 2010
MERS 2012
EBOLA 2014
ZIKA 2016
EBOLA 2018
Chinese Wuhan virus\CORONA 2020
Chinese incrementalism? Drip drip drip?
237 deaths today. Left car acccidents in the dust. 80,000 infected. Pretty soon it’ll be 0…NOT. Oh well. Trump is like that broke clock- everyone just waits and waits and waits for him to be right through some sort of accident or natural event. It never happens. It’ll go down in history as “Broke Clock Syndrome,” where people just wait and wait and it never comes. Trump is never right about anything and now people’s lives are on the line. Talk about a recipe for disaster.
People’s temple, Solar Temple, Maga Rally.
Blind obedience death and mega-maniacal cult leaders. It was in front of us all the time. The emperor is as naked as the day that Trump was born yet his drivel continues to beguile.
“Twump is never wight about anythinnnng!”
LOL.
Trump Hate-O-Meter score
Laundrymat blues: 6
K-Dog: 3
C’mon boys, you can do better.
This steampunk Hate-O-Meter machine is working fine. I spent the afternoon oiling it up and polishing the brass, and there’s plenty of brass. Bring on the hate!
Brh
Is it right twice a day too?
It’s right all the time my friend.
You can’t fool the Hate-O-Meter.
. Trump is never right about anything?
He’s made a mistake. He wants people to go to church. That may be his Waterloo Anybody with a lick of sense inside their head would sit at home and drink a cup of coffee.
No mistake, you have not figured it out yet. Few people have. I only figured it out this morning myself. The understanding rolled over me like a breaking wave on the shore of a surging sea.
If you were in a risk group and you heard your advisor telling you that an infection would rage until herd immunity was produced you would want everyone to get sick but you if you were an sociopathic, narcissistic, asshole. Trump wants everyone to get COVID so he does not have to get it and die. Trump would prefer you die. Everyone around him is tested and certified so to not infect the Elite Trump ass.
It is not about saving the economy. It is about getting the herd immunity up high enough so old rich boomers can buy isolation until the infection can’t be maintained in the population and naturally dies out. When COVID dies out and a vaccine is developed the rich boomer will have triumphed.
And at the end of the day it is going to be the 0.5% instead of the 1.0% percent unless you elect K-Dog POTHUS so I can straighten the Trump mess out.
Latest polls.
Trump is doing a good job of handling the virus epidemic.
60%
You are in the minority!!
Actually it’s 49%. He still can’t break 50%. But it is 49 to 43. Smallest rally around a sitting president during a crisis in history.
No, you are wrong. The latest polls show his approval rating regarding handling the epidemic is 60%.
He is going to crush the opposition this year.
Per the Gallup poll, the only honest poll.
If that 60% is correct, JohnAZ, then there’s no hope for America.
This would mean that its own population has drunk deep of the Misleader-in-Chief’s Kool-Aid if it truly believes in the majority that Himself is ‘handling the virus epidemic’ at all, let alone managing it WELL.
I think K-Dog’s blinding flash of insight is very likely accurate, especially that the 1% elite will survive until the vaccine comes online.
I shudder to think how much it’ll cost Americans, but I know it’ll be free in all the places that have single-payer health systems.
Free my butt. Also, very limited. Why are Europe’s mortality rates so high? 4 to 5 times ours.
Because they are a week ahead of us on the exponential curve and death is a function of the infection rate delayed in time. Their infected have had longer to recover or die and many of our infected will yet die. This by itself will skew the numbers but the other reason is that the health care system in Europe is overloaded.
German is comparable to the US. Germany has the best health care in the world. German has more ability to care for the surge than any other country. America has fewer hospital beds than Italy and will soon overload.
Now look at them yo-yo’s that’s the way you do it
You play a dancing nurse on the MTV
We gotta install respirators tubes
Custom intubation
We gotta move these respirators
We gotta move these new N-95s
That little golden boy got his own jet airplane
That little golden boy he’s millionaire
We gotta install respirators tubes
Custom intubation
We gotta move these respirators
We gotta move these new N-95s
Like NZ?
At any rate Majella, single payer health — represented by Warren and Sanders — was put up for a vote. It was shot down — by democrats.
Free at point if use.
NZ – cost for admission to intensive care for 10 days? $0.00.
Cost in the US? It will vary, but probably an average of $100,000, of which the blighted victim will have to pay a hefty deductible – possibly $10,000.
That’s how insured people get financially screwed.
The uninsured, IF they can even get treatment will wind up in bankruptcy.
JohnAZ
Which Gallup Poll were YOU reading?
I googled “Trump Approval Ratings” and the first page that comes up is
https://news.gallup.com/poll/298313/president-trump-job-approval-rating.aspx
Have a look – the headline is:
“President Trump’s Job Approval Rating Up to 49%”
Your wishful, magical thinking will not change the facts.
‘All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Gallup poll March 13-22
Overall approval 49%. Tied for the highest yet.
Approval of his handling the virus epidemic. 60%
Disapproval 38%
GOP 94% approval
Independents 60% approval
Democrats 27% approval
Not wishful thinking on my part, but a nightmare on yours!!!
Quit spreading fake news, no wait, maybe CNN will have a job for you!
Google Trump 60% approval to get the poll.
I don’t care if it is 100%. Stupid is as stupid does.
Exactly -as I said, that ‘approva;=l’ rating says more about the polled population because they couldn’t have got it more wrong.
My pole is bigger than your’ssssssssssss. Hahahahahaha.
Could very well be! Ha!
Better to be impaled on a poll than a pole.
83000 cases in the US. This is one time that I wish we weren’t no. 1.
Just heard a report about DeBlasio encouraging NYC folks to go out on the town, go to the movies, right at the beginning of the epidemic there. I do not blame him, I do not like hind sight, he was trying to get the folks to help the economy. I do take exception to him a week later trying to foist the blame the Feds, esp. Trump for the surge in NYC. This man is an idiot and a threat to every New Yorker.
BTW, New York cases at over 37000, the US over 82000. 45% of US cases in one state. I think someone should figure out why, and punish the guilty.
Also, why is the largest percentage of cases in California in Northern California?
I’m confused. All that info is out there. It landed in airports and was spread via the interstates. You can see it being spread along the freeways in real time on the John Hopkins map right now. That is what is happening. The guilty? Cognitive dissonance currently prevents the guilty from being perceived. KDFP
Too bad Merica can’t read and write anymore. Idiocracy came early. Brawndo Has What Plants Crave! These are the times we are living in.
John’s Hopkins
Hell, at Johns Hopkins they’re busy treating gunshot wounds from gang wars on the streets of Baltimore. On a single night last week 8 people shot. Not many resources left at John’s Hopkins for anything else.
Now look at them yo-yo’s that’s the way you do it
You play a dancing nurse on the MTV
We gotta install respirators tubes
Custom intubation
We gotta move these respirators
We gotta move these new N-95s
That little golden boy got his own jet airplane
That little golden boy he’s millionaire
We gotta install respirators tubes
Custom intubation
We gotta move these respirators
We gotta move these new N-95s
My nephew – who lives not far from Baltimore and works in DC is named John Hopkins … which is nice. Even though he’s a total Seppo, he was actually born in good old Alice Springs – a child of the American spy-base there.
K dog
Our illustrious leaders have failed us here. Dems, GOPers, medical experts everywhere. At first, they played hands off in January, Wrong! Then Trump shut off China on Jan. 29., right! Then the haters called him racist and xenophobic for cutting off China, wrong! Then we minimized the situation for a month allowing folks to come in through the East Coast, wrong! Trump next cut off Europe right! Then the racist BS stated up again, wrong. By this time, it was too late. Mr. Corona was here to stay and run its course.
Just like China in December and January, just like Italy in January and February, just like Iran.
Not surprising the map showing movement down the thoroughfares, no wonder NYC is the focus, it was exposed the longest to the onslaught from overseas. Louisiana is on a surge, watch Florida, DeSantis was too late.
Oops! Checked up on California. Actually, the LA area has twice as many cases as the San Francisco area.
LAX got it in and it silently spread. Earlier SF was way ahead on the map but that is because the spread in LA had not yet been known.
John,
Tough to tell since LA stopped testing the majority of symptomatic cases.
JAZ,
The corona virus fear mongering will go down in history as one of the biggest coordinated gov mafia frauds to manipulate economies and stock markets, suppress dissent, and push mandated “medicine” that is designed to mass poison people with heavy metals directly into their blood, destroy their health their nervous system and their capacity to think. The fear of the “invisible enemy” is a tool for forcing people to accept measures they never would otherwise. You are being taken by the Vatican gov mafia and its commie subsidiaries.
I for one do not believe this just happened. I also believe that the PTB are busily covering their asses.
The Universe Spreading to Infinity
https://youtu.be/d_ldz_VSkiM
Uh uh
Buy tinfoil shares!
Also, why is the largest percentage of cases in California in Northern California?
All the hippies live there … they’re not clean people.
And would you describe yourself as a Metrosexual?
Pun for the day.
A grenade thrown into a kitchen in France would result in,
Linoleum Blownapart.
Moronold Dump
I, for one, think this is clever. I appreciate this kind of stuff.
Q: What do you call a landfill next to a cemetery.
A: A Moron-old Dump
( it needed the dash )
Malthus
Jeremiah Babe sounding particularly pessimistic.
Seems like he’s hit the panic button.
Brh
Still, nice and sunny down in Palm Springs where he podcasts from.
Hey this vodka and OJ regimen seems to be working, OJ to boost the immune system, vodka to kill the virus. Nobody here sick or even unwell. I’m gonna have to patent this … can you buy pre mixed screwdrivers? The secret is in how much vodka to add, not too much, but just enough.
Brh
There’s such a thing as too much vodka?
No!
Look at the vodka soaked nation of Russia, only 450 cases of Covid-19 out of a nation of 140 million people.
There’s scientific evidence if there ever was any.
Brh
That’s partly because so many of their old men (old men seem particularly susceptible to the virus) have already drunk themselves to death, being likewise more susceptible to vodka.
Italian grandpas not so much, so they’ve been around to boost the statistics.
I’m guessing you chose woodwork over science, brh. 🙂
You should have done both.
And you don’t know how many cases there are – only how many
declared and tested cases there are.
Alba,
Yup.
Boris and his Health Minister just tested POZ. BBC this AM.
But to answer your question Iananna, one doesn’t want to make the cure worse than the disease … there’s always the liver to think about.
The Hate-O-Meter is powered up by a 5 hp Briggs and Stratton engine, pull start, takes leaded gas only. Unleaded gas or ethanol would choke it off. Lot of brass and heavy guage steel, this baby is old school.
Its fired up now, c’mon, let’s have some over the top, hateful posts to rate, the kind that ascribe to the president every dirty and underhanded motive imaginable. FYI, nobody has scored a perfect 10 yet, but I remain hopeful.
Brh
The good Dr Fauci stated clearly on the CNN “town hall” with the delicious Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper that the proposed Trumpian Plan – low, mid, high risk counties can have different lock-down regimens – is exactly the opposite of what we should do.
The experts say that the current low-case counties is precisely where you have the most testing and the most isolation and contact-tracing … to keep the numbers low. Doh!
The good doctor is in a very difficult position – he works for the dumbest boss in America no contest, and the stakes for America could not be higher. Overall – he walks the tightrope very well.
the delicious Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper? lol ok.
I hope he does not mean finger licking good.
Given Deborah Birx’s CV (Obama’s UN Ambassador for HIV etc) and now Pence ‘s response coordinator for the White House Coronavirus Task Force, it is amazing watching her standing on one side as Pence on tuther side gazes adoringly at the Orange Oaf blathering.
It must be agony.
I hope I at least score a seven.
Be careful, if you score a 10 the Secret Service will be checking to see if you have been sequestering in place and this is not a good time to be phone-stalked by Homeland Security. They show up to your destinations before you do because they know where you are going. You have been there before and they know your routine. Now every time they show up before you do it is potential exposure to the virus. You don’t want that.
Once I too was warned, stay on the path, I ignored it and was pushed into the swamp. It took a long time to crawl out. I can’t say it was fun but at least when I was gang-stalked I did not have to worry about catching the plague from the ‘concerned’ community of homeland security employees. Now history repeats but I am not the same dog. It is only a rhyme. — KDFP
” Lot of brass and heavy guage steel,”
BRH,
Well, Aluminum and aluminum castings, and a bit of cast Iron in the very old ones. Rebuilt tons of them years ago. Still have a dozen or so older ones on the place. Real early ones are magneto driven.
Supertrump Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro on Thursday exempted churches from coronavirus lock-downs by classifying religious activity as an essential service like weed and booze. Bozo heeded requests from evangelical dumfucks who want to lead their flocks to slaughter. — KDFP
People just keep finding excuses to violate the isolation that would stop the virus. These people ordaining violations are criminal.
What’s happening in Venezuela — paradise on earth?
With American aggression on pause I hope they can get some of the medicines they need in past the sanctions.
Well, there are plenty of Chinese in Venezuela, and they’re not only bringing Covid-19 into the country … and what medicines are there to countervail this virus anyway … other than vodka?
DoJ has just indicted Maduro for trying to swamp the US with cocaine.
What’s that old saw about supply & demand upon which the myth of exceptionalism and the one essential nation was, allegedly, built?
I’ve reached a catharsis. No matter what the reality is, people are going to believe what they want to. And no matter what happens ultimately, people will believe what they want to. Just as in all things, everyone has an opinion, a perspective. And so there is simply no way to forge a collective effort on any large scale for an extended period of time. Especially now when distrust in governments and social institutions is so pervasive. There is no consensus on reality. And so any response is likely to be chaotic and ineffective and thus history thoroughly repeats itself. We are no different than we were in the middle ages than we were in the stone ages. And so there really is nothing new under the sun.
Very good, Now in the renewal and restoration phase of your purification you understand that a man or woman can have their reality shaken to its very core. Cherished beliefs are smashed to bits. Yet a phoenix rises and never after can the same man or woman travel the familiar path. All roads become new.. People resist change so tolerance for it is an acquired skill worthy of much pride.
Don’t care for the consensus of fools even if they are like trees in a forest that reaches to the horizon. Your consensus even with a novice attempt to open your mind eclipses the reality of the common herd. Two attempts and you eclipse yourself.
Reality is there for those that seek it but know reality is not a matter of consensus unless it is the consensus of the choir that is your voice.
And so now Trump is saying he had this great conversation with Xi. And he has much respect for Xi!? And he ain’t gonna call it the China virus anymore?! And he says China knows a lot about the virus and how to handle it. Really? So who is the boss then?
Very good. Now you understand not to believe his faux sincerity.
Vlad & Xi are partners so know how best to massage the Orange Oaf, the Id of America.
Reports of there being a Super Ego are not reliable, as evidence is scant to non-existent.
And everybody knows that the Plague is coming
Everybody knows that it’s moving fast
Everybody knows that the naked man and woman
Are just a shining artifact of the past
Everybody knows the scene is dead
But there’s gonna be a meter on your bed
That will disclose
What everybody knows
K-Dog I hope you’re paying Leonard Cohen a small royalty for lifting his lyrics and parodying them.
Ozone, incidentally, covered that song, sounds (and looks) like the late country singer from Florida, John Anderson. Ozone’s version sounds better than the original.
Brh
parody is a fine line wrt copyright and infringement on.
a song title is not copyright able.
not sure about parodies.
heck The Verve paid the Rolling Stones for a sample and Allen Klein still sued and AK [the crook] won.
Oops, excuse me, John Anderson is still with us. My mistake.
The governments chosen response is to start limitless and ceaseless bailouts in an attempt to reinflate the everything bubble. This will likely wreck our economy, shrink the Middle Class, and destroy the Dollar as a currency unit. The meek shall inherit the earth.
Saint,
Whadda’ you gonna do with your $1200? Back in 2008 when we all received $500 (A taxable event, remember) I bought a 9N Ford tractor…had a few dollars left over.
This time? Who knows. Maybe diesel, if it is $2.00 a gallon or less.
E.
I notice on Craigslist, all of a sudden, tons of stuff up for sale, above and beyond the usual bric-a-brac. Tractors, yes, also many HD motorcycles, tools, appliances … it’s a fire sale, EVERYTHING MUST GO!
I’m still hankering for that Model 19, but, I notice I could get 2 Taurus for the price of one S&W … what’s your opinion of Taurus?
Brh
So, BoJo’s got it. The question is will anyone really notice? Before the CV crisis, he self-isolated a lot of the time anyway.
I wonder if he’s infected the Chief Medical Officer and the Chief Scientific Officer, who’ve become a bit like a pair of epaulettes on his shoulders.
I wonder if BoJo will read this to pass the time…
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/millions-to-need-food-aid-in-days-as-virus-exposes-uk-supply
And remember afterwards when he’s wittering about those trade deals with countries on the other side of the world which are supposed to (as if…) replace the arrangements we have with our near neighbours.
Heck your people let my people starve, as they exported food from Eire.
The Scots? Really? In any case, malthuss, it most certainly wasn’t ‘the people’.
On the other hand, if you’re after the Shoehorn of the Year Award, you’re most welcome to it.
Eire is very happily exporting food itself now. Sadly its agricultural sector is going take a significant hit from Brexit, in which it had no say. Flippin’ Englanders again – what can you do?
Alba,
They can do what they are going to do…sell to the indigenous population. God know they are forced to eat offal such as Haggis….
Haggis in Eire?
They already sell to the indigenous population. Just as our farmers do. Just as your farmers do. They all depend on exports as well to keep their head above water and to help with the balance of trade. Granted that situation will change in the long run, once they can’t. All the more reason for the UK to quit this delusional nonsense about amazing trade deals with faraway countries.