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Well, first, why? Why allow this nitwit to stage an ersatz impeachment only to see it fail? Perhaps to cancel the Jacobin menace metastasizing in the Democratic Party and get on with the business of winning the 2020 elections — with old-school candidates hand-picked to end-run the gang of fantasists currently on display. The House Speaker must sniff the odor of failure in the wind. Joe Biden, smiling cretinously, blunders through the primary venues with a big red “L” plastered on his forehead, often uncertain of what state he’s landed in, or what direction to face the camera. Everybody over twelve in this land knows that his kid Hunter was on the grift in Ukraine, plain and simple, and that Joe assisted in the operation. Color him toast.

Elizabeth Warren has been caught lying very publicly twice now, first as a phony Cherokee Indian (for career advancement in academia), and lately claiming falsely that she was canned from a teaching job years ago for being pregnant (with a 2007 tape of her out telling a contradictory story). Of course, that’s just the cherry-on-top of her dazzlingly unsound policy proposals to bankrupt the nation. Doesn’t look like she can reel it all back in and pretend to be a credible person in time for a full-on campaign.

Bernie Sanders has not completely lost his appeal for the collectivist demographic. The heart attack barely broke his stride. His line of bullshit remains consistent: 20th century nanny-state “solutions” for the problem of a sunsetting industrial economy. The perception out there remains that the unearned riches of the rentier class can be rationally harvested to support the floundering multitudes. There is scant recognition that a Bernie program would only hasten that setting sun and vaporize all those figmentatious rentier riches lodged in the janky financial markets, leaving everybody equally high, dry, and bankrupt. Note: Bernie raised his hand along with everybody else on the debate platform to give free medical care to border jumpers, and it’s all on tape, too, like the Liz Warren vapor trail. Guess how that will play in the reddish states. Finally, how many of us really want a president that looks and acts like your ninth-grade math teacher?

The rest of the field comprises just so many horses that ain’t gonna finish, not even the saintly Mayor Pete of South bend, IN. The other mayor, Michael Bloomberg stepped up to the plate last week and has already racked up an 0-and-2 count. (Only in France do mayors get to be president.) So, guess who that leaves? Self-style gutsy woman Hillary Rodham Clinton, ready and willing to saddle up and reclaim her lost entitlement to rule the land. What has she been actually doing up in her Chappaqua fortress-of-solitude lo these 36 months of defeat and exile besides pretending to write that gutsy woman book? Exactly how much influence does she still exert in the party, and throughout the multitudinous worm-holes of the Deep State? How much more — more than the three-year RussiaGate hoax — is she behind in the effort to drive the US population toward psychosis and submission?

My own sense of things is that she still influences quite a bit — though that might come to a screeching halt when indictments rain down against a large cast of characters associated with the previous governing regime, herself included. After all, she did pay for foreign interference in the 2016 election. For starters think: Christopher Steele, British national, former MI6 employee, before you even start sorting through the sundry Ukrainians recently revealed as “meddlers” via the awkward “whistleblower” affair.

Which brings us back to Rep. Adam Schiff and his monkeyshines in the star chamber of his personal devising. Now that the show goes public, will he haul many of the same characters back into the witness chair to spin out his engineered narrative, without any cross examination allowed, or other felicities of due process? Someone ought to advise him that playing the Robespierre role tends toward an unhappy ending for the player. Especially when Mr. Jordan of Ohio, newly-seated on the Intel Committee, starts barking out points-of-order. I’m even half-wondering if Mr. Durham, the federal attorney, has not already measured up bills of indictment for Mr. Schiff himself, for the phony CIA agent “whistleblower” Eric Ciaramella, the pre-wired IC Inspector General Michael Atkinson, US chargé d’affaires for Ukraine Bill Taylor, and the spectacularly seditious Colonel Vindman, whose antics stand out in this latest coup attempt against the elected president. And then what kind of bag does that leave Ms. Pelosi holding?

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702 Responses to “Death Throes of a Party”

  1. DEFCON1 November 11, 2019 at 10:06 am #

    Used to look forward to Jim’s column every week (then twice per as the trump Klown Kar got rolling)

    Now it is like watching a favorite dog get run over by a bus over and over again. Same old tired reminders that the ghastly trump was “elected” and so he should be revered and considered to be untouchable. That and the schoolkid jabs at Shiff – very low-rent Jim.

    Keep playing to the cheap seats.

    • rackslope November 11, 2019 at 10:27 am #

      Wow. A bleat from a blue ribbon sheep. An honor. I think.

      • Beryl of Oyl November 11, 2019 at 10:39 am #

        Sounds like we are supposed to give Schiff respect, but not the president, doesn’t it?
        How does that work?

    • Epicur November 11, 2019 at 10:34 am #

      “…and so he should be revered and considered to be untouchable. ”

      Ye do err. It is not the Golem that is revered, but the process by which he attained the office.

      Whether or not the Constitution is sufficient for governance of the nation we have become is a legitimate question. Those who pull at its loose threads may yet unravel the entire fabric.

      Interesting times.

      • Majella November 11, 2019 at 7:03 pm #

        Quite right, Epicur.

        By the same token, the Impeachment process is a Constitutional Instrument to be used when, as Franklin himself said, an official has “rendered himself obnoxious”.

        The current GOP position is very confusing. Firstly, it objected to closed hearings (such as a Special Counsel/Prosecutor would undertake, but Barr refused to investigate the allegations, hence House Committees took up the responsibility).

        Then they voted AGAINST open hearings; now Lindsay Graham refuses to ‘read the testimony’ transcripts; some plonker stands up in the House calling the investigation “Soviet-style” – which I thought was a most unfortunate analogy, given recent history. (Then, pop! JHK is using the same talking point in today’s missive.)

        All the ‘No quid pro quo’ rhetoric has morphed into ‘okay, there was a quid pro quo but we do that all the time’;

        Then ‘the President was just pursuing foreign policy objectives’ when in fact he was pursuing his OWN political objectives and had deployed Ghoulani along with his very own Igor & Boris henchmen to ‘get it done’ for Trump.

        Last I heard from Lindsay Graham, the Whistleblower MUST be produced if there’s to be any legitimacy in the Inquiry, but all the points made in the Whistleblower’s report have been corroborated again and again.

        Apparently, though, the witnesses called to the Inquiry have been, to a man&woman, naught but pathological Never Trumpers and they have all lied through their teeth.

        Oh, please. Apply Occam’s razor.

        In any case, according to all the hyper-critics in here and on Fox Opinions, the whole thing is going to blow up in the Dems’ face. If that’s the case, why get so upset? Let it run its course, and be vindicated. Surely, that would be the preferred outcome for all the rabid Dem-loathers?

        If this whole schmozzle does explode, then yay! You were right! You told us so! Nya-nya-nya!

        And that occurs and if ANY (even one) of these named Democrat schemers are indicted or otherwise called to account by the DOJ, then I’ll take my hat off and admit to being wrong, publicly in here.

        • Majella November 11, 2019 at 7:39 pm #

          And yesterday’s classic defense by Lindsay Graham – basically, the Trump administration is too incompetent to have been able to manage to organize a quid pro quo:


          Then again, Graham’s opinion is pretty fluid!


        • Nightowl November 12, 2019 at 11:42 am #

          I.Where is the quid pro quo? We have the transcript of the call and the Ukrainian PM himself publicly stated he was not pressured. Your whistleblower is a fantasist who was not on the call and has no concrete evidence whatsoever for his claims.

          II. You had a special counsel. He ended up finding no evidence for crimes that could result in a charge. Then he ended up delivering a drooling mess of a testimony that has gone down as one of the most embarassing climaxes to a political scandal in US history.

          The fact that you return again and again only to embarass yourself is beyond parody. You even got the date for a photo wrong in the previous thread, and it was shown in 3 different locations in your own sad article.

          You are my favorite of our resident fantasists.

          • benr November 13, 2019 at 5:33 pm #

            It is so odd how Majella calls anything she does not believe a conspiracy theory and yet she falls for her own special brand of cognitive dissonance in that over and over the anti-Trump moment is shown to be liars and she still clings to the belief that if one more accusation is slung it will somehow stick.

            No proof in Russiagate and yet the guilty party is Hildabeast and Oblamer.

            No proof in Ukrainegate and yet the obvious person who played that game was quid pro joe and that dog won’t hunt biden.
            What next?

    • Figaro November 11, 2019 at 10:49 am #

      As the rancid odor of a party gone rotten to the bone grows
      more nauseating by the minute, why should anyone be surprised
      that Mr. Kunstler should express such opinions? The big surprise
      is that after 3 years of non-stop insults, a never-Trumper should have the gall to object to anyone being “jabbed”. Very low-rent indeed.

    • draupnir November 11, 2019 at 11:00 am #

      You’re sounding particularly bitter today, DEFCON1. Is it because you realize that with the possible exception of Tulsi Gabbard, there isn’t really a viable candidate in that herd of mediocrity currently offering themselves up as potential nominees? Of course, the DNC will never allow her nomination.

      Don’t forget, enough people to get him elected preferred the ghastly Trump to the even more despicable Hillary Clinton. I look forward to her throwing her hat in the ring. She is apparently either a glutton for humiliation or delusional (I suspect that latter). I hope she gets her party’s nomination so we can finally prove beyond a reasonable doubt, even to her, that the last election wasn’t a fluke. We really do dislike her even more than that buffoon.

      • DrTomSchmidt November 11, 2019 at 11:14 am #

        Trump is the weakest Presidential candidate in my memory… except for the one who lost to him.

        • Epicur November 11, 2019 at 11:36 am #

          Mencken seems prophetic: “As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
          ? H.L. Mencken

        • Walter B November 11, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

          Donald Trump is strong to be able to take all that they have dealt him, but yes, weak in being able to effect change. At least he is not murdering scum and until some other party can offer us anything more than a shitty choice well, we have no choice. How come the dems hate old white men, yet continue to put them up as candidates? What’s up with that?

      • abbybwood November 11, 2019 at 11:16 am #


        Especially after Pelosi allows Schiff to do a televised indictment with no right for the Republicans to cross-examine or call witnesses.

        There is an organization that has called the winner of the presidential election right since Nixon.

        They have already called it for Trump in a “landslide”.

        Schiff and his fellow Democrats all took an oath to “preserve, protect and defend The Constitution” and with this game of charades they are playing to the world Wednesday with their coup attempt I predict this will be their fatal mistake.

        I will NOT be watching. Their un-Constitutional antics should be boycotted.

        • Majella November 12, 2019 at 2:14 am #

          Which particular oracle is this one?

        • Nightowl November 13, 2019 at 5:39 am #

          It is political theater for the low-IQ crowd, designed to give the appearance of impeaching the President.

      • Goodwalkspoiled November 11, 2019 at 5:17 pm #

        Indeed, no matter how ghastly, gross, lewd, and crude Frankenstein can be, he is far and away better than the wicked witch. No doubt about that.

    • sprawlcapital November 11, 2019 at 11:07 am #

      So, Decon,it’s hard to believe isn’t it, that your office building, the Pentagon, is now something like 76 years old.

      Can you tell us what it’s like to work there? Do you have your own office, or, as the quality of your writing would indicate, are you a lowly cubicle-dweller? In, shall we say, a low rent section.

      And above all I want to know, how does it benefit your employer, the Department of Defense, for you to post this comment here?

      • sprawlcapital November 11, 2019 at 11:43 am #

        I apologize for omitting the space after the comma in the first line, above.

        On the subject of spaces, Kesa Anna could save a lot of work by not hitting the space bar BEFORE commas and other marks of punctuation. Also, there is no need for her putting a space between every line she types. (I hope I’m using the correct pronoun, Kesa.)

        • BackRowHeckler November 11, 2019 at 6:10 pm #

          Dude, that crazy punctuation is part of the charm.

    • K-Dog November 11, 2019 at 11:11 am #

      Now it is like watching a favorite dog get run over by a bus over and over again

      Sometimes I feel that way too. The masturbation of American governance is bromidic. It cultivates the insentient and dull. Most important, none of it matters. It amounts to arranging deck chairs on a sinking ship and that is not what adults should be doing with their time.

      This is not pandering to the cheap seats: The perception out there remains that the unearned riches of the rentier class can be rationally harvested to support the floundering multitudes. There is scant recognition that a Bernie program would only hasten that setting sun and vaporize all those figmentatious rentier riches lodged in the janky financial markets, leaving everybody equally high, dry, and bankrupt.

      That is exclusive members only shit. Truth is not cheap, it costs the tellers of it quite a bit. Morons make it so. As it goes though I’ll blow this noise up and point out the ‘leaving everybody equally high, dry, and bankrupt. is a cheap trick that tries to make you feel like you are ‘one of them’ when you are not. You are not even close to being one of them, most of you anyway. The truth is they hurt people and need to go.

      Leave the entitled high and dry but leave me out of it. I am not a rentier. Rentiers are ruining the world and the only way people on earth have any future is if we get some 11th month Thermidor action going on to put some limits on the cultivated selfishness rampant across the land.


      • draupnir November 11, 2019 at 12:08 pm #

        I would not oppose ending generational wealth. The fortunes accumulated in this fashion are beyond obscene. Instead of income tax, confiscate all estates.

        • K-Dog November 11, 2019 at 12:24 pm #

          Fortunes accumulated in this fashion have destroyed all notions of cogent reality.

          • BackRowHeckler November 11, 2019 at 1:56 pm #

            Sometimes family fortunes dissipate all by themselves. The Vanderbuilts are an example. Once the wealthiest family in America they are now decidedly middle class. Another example is the poet Slater Brown; his great grandfather was America’s first industrialist and the wealthist man in New England but by the time Stater came along the money was gone.


          • BackRowHeckler November 11, 2019 at 2:21 pm #

            Have you ever seen the film ‘Grey Gardens’?

          • Majella November 11, 2019 at 5:20 pm #

            An old saying of my grandfather was “Shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations”.

            This has been attributed to Andrew Carnegie, I think. My granddad was also from Dunfermline so it may have a longer history.

          • SpeedyBB November 16, 2019 at 6:17 am #

            BRH – William S. Burroughs.

            His curse was that he could not dispel the notion that he grew up a Trustifarian whereas in fact his family had no access whatsoever to the Burroughs Adding Machine money.

            Being a junkie, criminal & pervert made things no easier for the writer.

            Fortunes built on, on the other hand, are also interesting: Howard Hughes inherited a sizable sum from the machine tool-inventor dad and went on to pile that into a vast empire.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 11, 2019 at 11:48 am #

      So which of the D Losers do you intend to vote for? Your own L is visible on your cyber forehead too btw.

    • Walter B November 11, 2019 at 12:55 pm #

      My little dog Spot got hit by a car, hubba, hubba, hubba, hubba, hubba.

      Put his guts in a box and put him in a drawer, hubba, hubba, hubba, hubba, hubba.

      Cause I’m a happy boy, I’m a happy boy,
      Ain’t it great when things are going your way, hey, heyl


    • HapMan November 11, 2019 at 1:30 pm #

      Agreed, DEFCON1. I have been following Jim’s work for years, I was enthralled by his original thinking and sharp writing, and I am now sad to see him digging deeper and deeper into this conspiracist rabbit hole.

      For those of his (barely hanging in there) readers who don’t get most of our “information” from Fox News, YouTube, the internet and old X-Files reruns, maybe he can devote one of his future columns to explaining his view of the proper role for Congressional oversight over the executive branch, and more specifically the proper response of Congress to the evidence that Trump withheld Congressionally-mandated aid from a country in the middle of war pending that country’s commitment to investigate his primary political opponent (and former US VP) and associated nutty theories about servers?

      • Epicur November 11, 2019 at 2:06 pm #

        “…Trump withheld Congressionally-mandated aid…”

        Mandated or authorized? There is a significant difference. I will admit that I do not know which, but I would be surprised if it was “mandated”. I’ve rarely seen it mandated and I have been in charge of contracting jobs for the State Department.

      • lbs November 11, 2019 at 2:22 pm #

        What’s wrong with getting news from Youtubers? Sure there’s a lot of crap out there but platforms like that are the only place you will find any independent thinkers. What’s your idea of journalism- the swill that comes from clownhouses like CNN and The New York Times?

        • HapMan November 11, 2019 at 3:10 pm #

          lbs, I value independent thinking and was drawn to Kunstler’s work in part because he was an independent and big thinker on the subject of a number of topics including urban planning, architecture and peak oil. I didn’t always agree with him, but he had something new and important to say.

          However, unlike much of YouTube “news” sources, Jim actually uses his real name, he has been involved publicly with identified forums, and thus he has had a reputation to protect. I hope he is taking a hard look at some of the dead-ender fringe types he is attracting to his site with his current preoccupation with conspiracy thinking.

          The NY Times or any other newspaper, magazine, TV network or other news org of note employs people who make mistakes and have biases, but we know who owns those outlets, we know the names of the people who report for them, and they have reputations and thus standards that they apply, however imperfectly. So everyone has some basis for how much reliability to ascribe to them.

          YouTube has no standards, no filters, no guardrails, no transparency, no accountability. Approach at your own risk.

          • Nightowl November 13, 2019 at 5:48 am #

            “Reputations, standards”

            Koi-gate, MLK-bustgate, Knob-creek/Syriagate, Wiretapgate, Russian-Collusiongate, Two-scoopsgate, ABC-Epstein-Coverupgate, Crowd-sizegate, NEPatriots-gate …

            Just off the top of my head.

            The problem might be your IQ.

          • Majella November 14, 2019 at 12:45 am #

            So, everything is a ‘trumped up’ conspiracy…except the issues you hold dear, in which cases FFvCS is a paragon of virtue, basically infallible. Sheesh.

          • Nightowl November 14, 2019 at 3:34 am #

            Maj deploys the non-sequitur.

            She will never forget the Kurdish lives needlessly lost in the hellish firefight at Knob Creek, KY.

          • benr November 14, 2019 at 9:50 am #

            Buyer beware ingest news cycles at ones own risk of looking like an ignorant fool.

            Nothing new here.
            Look at the absolute stark difference between the progressive spin machine verses the rights spin machines.
            Which side at least as far as Trump goes has been more deficient in the reality of what passes for truth?

            So far Progressive opinion has been flat out wrong and proven so for three years straight. Not just mistaken but actually using fabricated factoids to go after Donald J. Trump.
            They started with the impeachment calls the day he was sworn in.
            Just that alone is enough to make HONEST people question what is going on.

            That is the question at hand the way the DNC is going about this is going to make this country that much more divided and ungovernable but maybe that is the point. We have zero in common with the progressive aka communist movement and most of the issues they push are stupid and divisive.
            Gender Politics
            Free shit politics to the gimme class.
            No borders
            No one held accountable…accept the Donald of course.
            shred the first and second amendment but of course burning the flag is just fine.

            I’m sure I missed a few of their rotten plank platform grifting country destroying talking points.

            This inquiry is a joke I watched a good hour of it and then turned on cnn for an hour after that I turned on Fox for an hour and the narrative is 100% out of phase.
            What I saw was a dishonest scripted display of an entitled class of people angry that Donald does things his way and ignored them but nothing approaching the level of impeachment.
            The Democrat’s are again trying to change language to suit their objectives the term bribery was not about our country bribing other nations officials but about foreign powers bribing our officials!


          • HapMan November 14, 2019 at 1:20 pm #

            I watched much of the same hearing you did. What I saw in William Taylor was the best our country has to offer – a combat veteran, a man who undoubtedly could have made millions in the private sector over the course of his career who instead has dedicated his life to serving our country, and a man of conscience, testifying, under oath and at penalty of perjury, and facing the wrath and denigration of this president and his followers, as to the facts as he understands them. He came across to me as unambiguously honest and credible.

            I don’t see how anyone who considers himself a patriotic American or even just a decent person could tear him down.

          • Nightowl November 15, 2019 at 5:06 am #

            I watched, too. This part was epic.


            Perhaps it is time for an IQ test.

      • Majella November 11, 2019 at 5:24 pm #


        Yes, the Kool-Aid appears to have been downed. JHK is starting to sound exactly like the GOP talking points.

        The current rules for Impeachment process are those set down in 2015 by the GOP led House, and signed off by Cryin’ John Boehner himself.

        So what’s the problem with the process?

        • HapMan November 11, 2019 at 9:49 pm #

          Majella, I have to admit that I have only recently started checking in with this blog again after a multiyear hiatus so I’m unclear about how he got from there to here, but it hasn’t escaped me that Jim focuses primarily on attacking the process and the motivations of Democrats/officials from a conspiracy-theory perspective and only passingly if at all on the substance of Trump’s conduct or the legitimate role for Congress in all of this. There is obviously an audience and an internet ecosystem for this stuff, but it is pandering to the cheap seats, as DEFCON1 said, and I’m not sure what the purpose is of a blog that recycles talking points from Fox News primetime programming and Trump’s Twitter feed.

          Meanwhile, the lead editorial in the Economist magazine last week was about the Aramco IPO and specifically referred (dismissively) to peak oil. Here’s hoping that Jim leaves the political conspiracymongering to the Russian troll farms and their unwitting US affiliates and gets back to some of the things that made him worth paying attention to in the first place.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 2:19 am #

            Yes, you’re correct in that the focus is SOLELY on the egregious sins of the DNC. I feels like Trump & the cultists get a free ride from him. I have no love of the Democratic Party and also see it’s sins, particularly the low-handed way it dispatched Bernie in 2016. But it would be a relief if from time to time Trump’s outrageously blatant lying bullshit was called out.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 2:21 am #

            Please excuse the greengrocer’s apostrophe!

    • Nightowl November 12, 2019 at 4:31 am #

      In other words, a giant truthslap to your face.

      • Majella November 14, 2019 at 12:46 am #

        You still at it?

        • Nightowl November 14, 2019 at 3:40 am #

          Slapping you around?


          • Majella November 14, 2019 at 3:48 pm #

            Missed again.

          • benr November 14, 2019 at 5:20 pm #

            That was not her face shame on you!

          • Nightowl November 15, 2019 at 5:35 am #


    • Buckminster Fievre November 12, 2019 at 9:59 am #

      Sadly, I have to agree with you and HapMan.

      Once upon a time, I was a regular reader here. Then, as Mr. Kunstler’s rants became weirder and wilder after November 2016, I still checked in every few months just to see what other wacky ideas were circulating in the Ether.

      Nowadays, I might check in two or three times a year to see if, by chance, Mr. Kunstler has recovered even some of his former lucidity and wit. But even that’s apparently not worth my time anymore.

      Thanks again, Mr. Kunstler, for “Geography of Nowhere,” and for the “World Made by Hand” series. You had a heck of a run by any measure.

      • sprawlcapital November 12, 2019 at 4:03 pm #


        You are engaged here in a form of gaslighting. You know gaslighting, an attempt to make someone feel that they are going insane. Your calm, patronizing tone. Your use of words associated with mental health. Words like recover and lucidity. It’s all there.

        This is a heck of a good try, Bucky, but it won’t work, not on me or on anyone else reading this.

    • EvelynV November 12, 2019 at 7:34 pm #

      With you all the way Defcon, JHK has lost his perspective. Republicans have done their best to make constitutional law meaningless e.g. starting wars in the ME, blocking SCOTUS appointments, embracing the most heinous politician of our time despite excoriating him when they thought they had a choice of 20 better candidates to choose from, paying no attention to emolument violations, etc. A few years ago JHK urged this readers to regard the republican party as the party that destroyed America and now he’s as hypocritical as the repubicans themselves. He’s become a major disappointment. For years I looked forward to his Monday blog and now it’s like witnessing the downhill slide of a cherished daughter who has become a drug addicted whore.

      • benr November 13, 2019 at 5:40 pm #

        Pot meet kettle this coming from one of the most delusional idiots on this board.

        • HapMan November 13, 2019 at 6:18 pm #

          benr, don’t be so hard on yourself.

          • benr November 13, 2019 at 8:51 pm #

            Reading comprehension deficit flows proudly in your comment.
            I see we have another delusional fool among us.
            Welcome please chime in with your nonsense.

          • Majella November 14, 2019 at 12:50 am #

            Wow – full-tilt GOP talking point denial mode! You go, benr!

        • EvelynV November 14, 2019 at 5:43 am #

          Bentover I agree with you 100%, this coming from one of the most insightful observers of you on this board.

      • cc rider November 14, 2019 at 10:44 am #

        Sounds like you need to quit coming to CFN then Ms. EvelynV.

        But you can’t. Deep down you looooooooove having your mind and emotions violated by high testosterone count manly men. Just like deep down most women, after a shot or two of their favorite adult beverage, will admit that they like sex which is at least a “little bit rapey”. Oh yeah. That’s why ‘Fifty Shades of Gray” was such a hit book with womenfolk.

        JHK being a “major disappointment” is really kinda exciting for you actually. Which of course confuses you. So you post something akin to “Me Too!! Me Too!! I’ve been violated!!”

        But again…..in reality…..you LOVE it!

        • EvelynV November 14, 2019 at 11:17 am #

          You are a strange duck cc rider. Most people who post do a better job than you of keeping the monsters of their ids hidden.

          If your ideas aren’t to justify raping someone already, they suggest what’s on you mind in the future. You are a scary guy.

          • cc rider November 15, 2019 at 9:54 am #

            Raping women has never been on my mind. I have never mistreated a girl or a women, and I never will.

            I find the current mindset of the modern ‘Murican woman, the “Me Too” type woman, to be quite scary. It was this that I was trying to get across because I suspect that you are of that mindset. But I could be wrong and I do wish that I hadn’t have made the reply that I did.

            But yes, I probably am a “strange duck”. Scary? Nah. But it don’t matter because you and I will never meet or know one another in real life.

      • volodya November 14, 2019 at 12:08 pm #

        Evelyn, without question, Republicans are as guilty as sin on a great many things, in broad terms, for selling out their country for the benefit of a favored few. The unavoidable problem is the political alternative, the Democrats being foursquare in favor of the same policies as their supposed Republican opponents as evidenced by the Clinton and Obama presidencies. 

        It’s not an optical illusion, Bill was a continuation of Bush Sr, similarly, Obama was Dubya’s third term with the added accomplishment of creating an ulcer on the coast of Africa that bleeds refugees into the Mediterranean.
        For all the adulation for Obama, he was like the rest, he kowtowed to the received wisdom of the Blob, as it’s called, which most heinously misjudged and fucked up everything they touched since 1945. And, not least, he saved Wall Street by providing uncountable billions to save their worthless asses while giving short shrift to uncounted millions of families ruined by Manhattan’s predations. 

        You can’t make this shit up, he hired a Wall Street banker as his chief of staff, he appointed a Wall Street lawyer, who made a fortune defending Wall Street banks, as head of a regulatory agency whose ostensible purpose was to police those same banks. Kinda like appointing a mafia consigliere as head of a commission to eradicate organized crime. Your reasonable prediction would be for a time of prosperity for those same gangs. 

        Say what you like about Republicans, and you won’t get much argument from me. But you won’t get far if you clean out the rat’s nest in the basement and ignore the one in the garage. 

        • benr November 14, 2019 at 12:36 pm #

          Or as I like to say,

          Republicans bad Democrats far worse.

  2. Beryl of Oyl November 11, 2019 at 10:24 am #

    “The perception out there remains that the unearned riches of the rentier class can be rationally harvested to support the floundering multitudes”.
    This line is very important.

    • K-Dog November 11, 2019 at 11:21 am #

      It hit you too! A significant truth. Dare we say it could have implications for the Green New Deal?

      But a rational harvest is a good idea on its own merits. Any ghost of a meritocracy depends on it and why does everyone always want to give the entitled rich more than what they already have. It is as if everyone was molested as kids and is forever acting out their pain, sharing it with you.

    • K-Dog November 11, 2019 at 11:23 am #

      And flounder? I don’t want to.

    • hmuller November 11, 2019 at 11:23 am #

      So true Beryl. If the wealthy all had to sell their inflated assets to pay Bernie’s taxes, to whom would they sell? We would quickly learn that what we imagined to be “wealth” was blue smoke and mirrors founded upon the price paid by the most recent “greater fool”.

      • Epicur November 11, 2019 at 11:47 am #

        “We would quickly learn that what we imagined to be “wealth” was blue smoke and mirrors founded upon the price paid by the most recent “greater fool”.”

        Hear, hear…

      • volodya November 11, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

        Couldn’t have said it better.

    • fugeguy November 11, 2019 at 12:08 pm #

      Yes indeed.

      The belief that paper promissory notes written against digital assets can be “harvested” is funny.

      Soon we will find that the collateral is worthless or wholly inadequate to fund current operations let alone some new envisioned boondoggle expansion of liability.

      It will be an interesting day-“exchanging zeros for ghosts” so to speak. Nothing for nothing…leaves?

    • Sean Coleman November 12, 2019 at 8:57 am #

      There is also the word “rationally” in the phrase “can be rationally harvested”. Any wealth they could find would be irrationally used surely.

  3. Epicur November 11, 2019 at 10:27 am #

    I love reading your stuff Mr. Kunstler. While I have little hope that justice will in some small way prevail, I can dream while I read.

  4. BC_EE November 11, 2019 at 10:29 am #

    How the fck is Vendman seditious? You’ve lost it Kunstler.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 11, 2019 at 10:36 am #

      No, he hasn’t lost it. He’s found it.
      Vendman IS seditious.
      The evidence is there if you want to see it.

    • Epicur November 11, 2019 at 10:45 am #

      Mr. Vindman’s professed motive for his actions was that Mr. Trump was undermining America’s foreign policy, but legally AMERICAN foreign policy is Mr. Trump’s responsibility.

      WHOSE foreign policy was Mr. Vindman therefore “protecting?”

      Acting as an adversary to Mr. Trump’s foreign policy is seditious.

      • Q. Shtik November 11, 2019 at 3:04 pm #

        Mr. Vindman – Epicur


        The 2 commenters before you spelled the Lt Colonel’s name wrong. You spelled it right. Thank you.

    • Nightowl November 12, 2019 at 4:34 am #

      All of these mysterious new posters this week.

      All with the same narrative. The Brockian horde has been dispatched.

      • Majella November 14, 2019 at 12:52 am #

        Oh! Great! Another conspiracy! Let’s go donkey-deep on this brand-new ‘attack from the left’. It’ll give us something newish to discuss.

        • benr November 14, 2019 at 9:54 am #


          Odd that its always a conspiracy theory unless it aligns with your errant belief system?

          You could stand to do some honest reflection.

          • Majella November 14, 2019 at 3:52 pm #

            Likewise, I’m sure.

      • benr November 14, 2019 at 9:52 am #

        Odd huh.

  5. malthuss November 11, 2019 at 10:31 am #

    Donald trump has tweeted, ‘Liddle’–he knows about Schiffs involvement in pedophilia, Id guess.

    There are several talks on you tube by researchers, the Standard Hotel. etc.
    Oh, the Standard has a movie, little kids eating pizza.
    hiding in plain sight.

    And they found a barrel of muric? acid at the standard,

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    • sprawlcapital November 11, 2019 at 11:53 am #

      It’s a chemical nomenclature thing. Muriatic acid is another name for hydrochloric acid. Strong stuff.

      • stelmosfire November 11, 2019 at 1:36 pm #

        It ain’t that bad. Your stomach is full of the stuff. Almost 1%. Works wonders for your digestion.

        • sprawlcapital November 11, 2019 at 7:14 pm #

          Stomach acid,1% hydrochloric (HCl), is very dilute. Concentrated HCl is typically 36% by mass. It is very dangerous, giving off fumes which will damage the lungs if inhaled. I made the mistake once of working with concentrated HCl in an open room, without the protection of a fume hood. This is something you do not want to repeat. It gave me a hint of what a poison gas attack might have been like in World War I.

          Needless to say, concentrated HCl will injure or destroy any tissue with which it comes in contact.

    • Majella November 14, 2019 at 12:52 am #

      “Trump tweeted…” a smear. What’s new?

    • Majella November 14, 2019 at 12:53 am #

      Nightowl – no demand for ‘evidence’ that Scaife is a paedophile?

  6. snarkmatic9000 November 11, 2019 at 10:32 am #

    Once and for all, protestations notwithstanding, JHK reveals, perhaps unintentionally, that he really is actually a GG of G supporter in his heart. When troglodytes like Jordan of OH are held up as exemplars of justice-seeking, something is drastically amiss.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 11, 2019 at 10:40 am #

      Hmm. Sounds like Mr. Kunstler is right over the target. He’s catching flak.

    • So many liars November 11, 2019 at 10:44 am #

      A person doesn’t have to be a Trump supporter to be dismayed by the treachery of the Resistance. Maybe JHK is simply a patriotic American who doesn’t want his country further fractured by those who still can’t accept the results of the last election.

      • benr November 11, 2019 at 11:12 am #

        And yet I would bet money Howard does not watch Fox news how ever you should a little bit of perspective would really help you.

      • Nightowl November 12, 2019 at 4:37 am #

        The McResistance.

        Corporate backed.

        So raw, so anti-establishment.

    • DrTomSchmidt November 11, 2019 at 11:18 am #

      There’s the depressing thought tied up with impeachment: the Dems do not think they can defeat the most-despised President in history. Else why worry about impeaching a man who is fewer than 365 days from electoral defeat?

      • draupnir November 11, 2019 at 12:14 pm #

        That was my impression as well. I suspect the true polling numbers they are looking at are abysmal and this impeachment attempt is an act of desperation.

        • messianicdruid November 11, 2019 at 4:05 pm #

          They should impeach him. Then he can run as an independent which would teach the fookers what being an american really means. He’d probably get 70 % of the electorate by then. But if he gets this L emergency hung around his neck it will take another 8 years for most folks to realize the last 100 years serving the Beast fron Jekyl Island have been like Jacob serving Edom.

          Find a Rock and start carrying it everywhere you live .

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  7. Beryl of Oyl November 11, 2019 at 10:33 am #

    Liz’ lies- when she told the Indian legend, that was a relatively ‘normal’ lie, the kind people do when they have something to gain from not telling the truth.
    What gets forgotten is the tale she told to back up that fib. The one about how one of her own grandparents was such a bigot, that even a rumor that his prospective daughter in law might have a smidgeon of Indian blood was enough to make him forbid his son to marry her.
    That’s a Hillary-size, epic whopper.

    • DrTomSchmidt November 11, 2019 at 11:19 am #

      Yeah,I’d forgotten that one.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 11, 2019 at 11:55 am #

      Think there could have been an America without such race pride? It is the Foundation of any Civilization, along with “Cult”. Put them together and you get Culture.

      A People who don’t believe in themselves will be pushed aside by those that do.

    • Sacker of Cities November 11, 2019 at 12:14 pm #

      And I think that lie was about some people living in Oklahoma when half the state has American Indian blood in them (I am from Oklahoma and do have American Indian blood). When I read that the first time I just about snorted by beer through my nose.

      That lie is a real tell about a person’s mental health.

      • messianicdruid November 11, 2019 at 10:22 pm #

        The people I live near claimed the land between the mountains and the Great River and between the Mizzou and the arkanza. They were given some of the richest oil land on the planet and thanks to the wisdom of one elder that did not divide it up so the white folks could buy it up. Others fought wars for the bankers out east and lost it to treaties whi ch were forgotten. Some invite me to go back to Europe.
        But I was born here, makes me more native than any. Many generations of my blood kin been buried here, we are staying.

  8. venuspluto67 November 11, 2019 at 10:40 am #

    Not a fan of the pseudo-impeachment Ghost Dance, but screeds such as this one make me think you’ve pretty much gone and switched parties on us. I guess it doesn’t much matter, as I suspect the DNC will just force Joe Biden or maybe even Hillary Clinton down our throats next year, as you suggest, and after that, I don’t see myself really caring much anymore. :-/

    • rackslope November 11, 2019 at 10:50 am #

      You’d rather go down with the ship, eh? Only admirable if you’re the captain.

      • venuspluto67 November 11, 2019 at 11:15 am #

        Well, perhaps I should at least give Jim credit for not finding a way to work his animus towards transgender people into this morning’s polemic. Though perhaps he had a Biden-esque “senior moment” and simply forgot to tick off that particular item on the checklist.

        The “Vote Blue No Matter Who” crowd would probably accuse me of being one of the rats abandoning the proverbial sinking ship for not voting for Biden or Clinton, which I probably wouldn’t. I foresee myself voting a straight Libertarian-ticket the way I did in 2016, and then probably again for every election (who knows how many more of those there will be) after that. If I vote at all.

        {/cue Leonard Cohen’s “Everybody Knows” }

        • beantownbill. November 11, 2019 at 11:47 am #

          Don’t vote. The election is just theatre to determine which party gets our loot, not that there is much left. I hope you’ve been saving up your money rigorously to pay off your share of the $50+ trillion dollars we’re responsible for.

          Actually, I haven’t voted since 1968 because I refuse to contribute to our raping. The proof of the pudding and all that proves how effective voting is.

          • draupnir November 11, 2019 at 12:17 pm #

            Odious debt. I spend every cent.

          • Robert White November 11, 2019 at 1:37 pm #

            You get points for not participating in the raping & pillaging, beantownbill.


    • Epicur November 11, 2019 at 11:08 am #

      “… screeds such as this one make me think you’ve pretty much gone and switched parties on us.”

      And then there is the question of whether some people have left the party or the party has left them?

    • abbybwood November 11, 2019 at 11:29 am #

      There is ZERO chance Biden will be the nominee.

      Soros is hacking Liawatha and therefore SHE will be Hillary 2.0 even if Bernie sweeps New Hampshire, Iowa And Super Tuesday.

      The corrupt DNC and their Superdelegates already have their marching orders.

      The P.C. police have decided that the glass ceiling MUST be broken in 2020!

      • venuspluto67 November 11, 2019 at 12:12 pm #

        Huh. I shall have to google this “Liawatha” of which you speak.

      • hmuller November 11, 2019 at 2:53 pm #

        Liawatha is one name. I call her “Dances With Super Pacs”.

    • James Howard Kunstler November 11, 2019 at 11:31 am #

      Venuspluto67 — I remain a registered Democrat, while I deplore the current composition and aims of the party. If I get the opportunity to vote against all that, I will be pleased to do it. — JHK Admin

      • venuspluto67 November 11, 2019 at 12:32 pm #

        {/shrugs} Well, I tend to think that how you actually vote accounts for more than what you’re “registered” as, whatever that means (my unfamiliarity likely because we don’t have this registering in Wisconsin).

        So I guess that would make me some kind of weird Democrat-Libertarian hybrid. There have been stranger things under the sun. 🙂

      • PeteAtomic November 12, 2019 at 6:22 pm #

        It’s as dead as JFK.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 11, 2019 at 11:57 am #

      Here it is: the Old either/or mentality that has us trapped like flies on glue. Of course you don’t care – you should have stopped caring decades ago and started supporting independents and third parties.

      • venuspluto67 November 11, 2019 at 12:11 pm #

        Actually, I stopped caring in 2016, but when the social-dem wing of the party came out in favor of marijuana legalization in very-late 2017, I decided to pretend to care for a little while longer. These days wouldn’t be such a bad time for the preferred anti-anxiolytic of my youth to become legal, as much as I increasingly doubt this will ever happen in Wisconsin (Tavern League Country).

        Yeah, I’m of two minds about everything these days. I blame my natal Mars in Libra! 😉

        • Q. Shtik November 11, 2019 at 3:32 pm #

          I blame my natal Mars in Libra! – venuspluto67


          Those born with Mars in Libra in their natal chart are of course balanced and caring, however, there is an edge to their behavior, one that turns … etc. etc.

          I begin to lose all respect for people who believe in this astrology BS…………… and that includes Janos.

  9. robert magill November 11, 2019 at 10:40 am #


    You seem riled the Donald cannot match predecessor #1. Our former Sniper-in Chief. A wedding party offed before lunch, daily.

    Or his number two, who needed an adding machine to tally a days work of gore. That Trump won’t hunt! Damn.

    • Nightowl November 13, 2019 at 9:30 am #

      Much more than that. Research Operation Timber Sycamore. And read the associated declassed DNI report.

      A merry band of “moderate” Salafists and ex-Al-Quaida pillaging its way across Syria for the neolibs. Also known as ISIS.

  10. newworld November 11, 2019 at 10:42 am #

    Good theory, we on the Right get fed failure theater on a regular schedule, so enjoy your sandwich there Progressives.

    And progressives enjoy your Oliver North but without any of his virtues of love of country, Vindman does his best to squeeze into his costume, and then make bold Daily Show pronouncements about Americans.

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  11. Minnie Van Horne November 11, 2019 at 10:44 am #

    The fact that Ukraine has likely been used, and continues to be used, as a gigantic cash machine for Joe Biden & Son Inc., for John Kerry & Son Inc, and for a host of other brand-name Swamp kakistocrats, regardless of party affiliation, must give pause to Ms. Pelosi. Would she really crave having all this soiled and stinking laundry displayed to the slackjawed masses during the primary season?

    • Epicur November 11, 2019 at 11:02 am #

      “Would she really crave having all this soiled and stinking laundry displayed to the slackjawed masses during the primary season?”

      Whatever happens, I think she (and we) can count on the MSM to provide, or at least attempt to provide, a smokescreen and deodorant obscure the sight and smell.

    • rackslope November 11, 2019 at 11:15 am #

      Yes. And it’s likely not just Ukraine. Just think of the entire foreign aid schtick. Perhaps the whole thing is just a kickback system. Puts a new spin on all those “wars” we’ve been in. And all that disaster relief money we give so readily in our name.

      • abbybwood November 11, 2019 at 11:51 am #

        Wasn’t it Obama who dangled the IMF money to Ecuador so they would kick Assange out of their London Embassy? Might have been Trump.

        Quid pro quo’s are done all the time! Sanctions are a quid pro quo!

        Do as we say and the sanctions will go away.

        • pokercat November 11, 2019 at 12:58 pm #

          It was extortion, plain and simple.

          Most states define extortion as the gaining of property or money by almost any kind of force or threat of violence, property damage, harm to reputation, or unfavorable government action. … If any method of interstate commerce is used in the extortion, it can be a federal crime.

          The President committing extortion for personal gain is unacceptable and impeachable as he cannot be indicted and tried in a court of law.

          Of course you can rationalize any thing if you have become part of the cult, a true believer, as many here seem to be. If so, then welcome King Donald the First of His Name.

          • messianicdruid November 11, 2019 at 10:29 pm #

            Okay, so you are saying – when Obama, Biden, Clinton, are convicted of Treason you will support the death penalty for each of them.

            Cause the won’t be in office [ above the law ] . Right?

          • benr November 12, 2019 at 11:40 am #

            Wow you have drunk deep of the TDS cool aid.
            What did President Trump gain from asking Ukraine to look into the Bidens corruption?
            Mind you we have a treaty with them for just such occasions!
            You suffer from not my guy syndrome if the above only applies to going after Trump.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 3:31 pm #

            “What did President Trump gain from asking Ukraine to look into the Bidens corruption?”

            In the end, he gained nothing of value to him. This is due to the incompetence of Ghouliani & his henchmen, and the push-back by level-minded people who could see the criminality in his actions. These people have been testifying for the last few weeks and now you’ll get to see it on TV for yourself. You be the judge – as if that’ll make any difference. \

            You accuse pokercat of ‘not my guy syndrome’ yet you fail to see that you have the exact problem you accuse him of, only without the ‘not’.

          • benr November 12, 2019 at 6:00 pm #

            More to the point I see exactly what he did.
            He asked a pointed question as to why the Ukrainian government called off the last investigation and suggested they should start it back up.
            You know the one regarding Hunter Biden son of Joe Biden famously bragged about killing with a billion dollars at stake in aid.

            Until Joe Biden is in jail for the following I don’t care what Trump does.


          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 8:59 pm #


            Old news, and misconstrued. Why are you so fixated on Obama, Hillary, Biden et al? You’ll give yourself an ulcer (and it won’t make a blind bit of difference to them…)

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 9:09 pm #

            You can believe facts or just double-down on debunked conspiracy theories.

            For example, what was the name of the prosecutor Biden had fired? Why did he ask for his firing? What other European nations also wanted him fired?

            Are you aware that this pressure was brought to bear on the previous administration, prior to the that saw Zelenskyy put into office?

            okay – the facts are:

            > the prosecutor was under pressure because he had NOT been pursuing significant cases of corruption, despite it being his job. Ultimately, he was accepting back-handers to stay off cases.

            > all foreign relations is basically a ‘quid pro quo’. That’s how it’s ALWAYS worked. In this case, the Quid side of the equation was the US Government along with Britain, France & Germany – they ALL wanted this rat gone.

            > as Pokeercat explained, very succinctly, in Trump’s case, he was NOT acting on behalf of the US Government. He was acting to further his own political position and in the process compromised a large number of ethical patriotic people, who said – “Screw this!”

            FFS!!! Even John Bolton could see how wrong & wrongheaded it all was. If you’ve lost John “I’ve never seen a war I didn’t like” Bolton, you are really over the guardrail.

          • Nightowl November 13, 2019 at 9:33 am #

            Maj, hitting the red zone again.

            What is the criminality in questioning a previous investigation initiated by the Ukraine itself, prior to Trump’s presidency?

            Be sure to highlight the crime and back with evidence for your nutbar claim.

            You have yet to do so even once.

          • Majella November 14, 2019 at 1:01 am #

            ‘FFS’ = “hitting the red zone”? Ok, now I know what constitutes an ’emotional outburst I guess.

            Your banal question deliberately avoids the point. As to evidence, let’s watch C-Span for a couple of weeks.

          • Majella November 14, 2019 at 1:03 am #

            “Nutbar claim” Which claim was nutbar? I don’t just make this stuff up, but you don’t have any confidence in the sources I use.

          • Majella November 14, 2019 at 1:05 am #

            Nightowl – you’re slipping into a deep hole of cultist belief. I know you can’t see it but it’s sticks out like dog’s bal to me and the the rest who aren’t RWNJs.

          • Nightowl November 14, 2019 at 3:43 am #

            Yes, provide evidence for your nutbar claim that the President committed a crime.

          • cc rider November 14, 2019 at 11:10 am #

            Nightowl I guess you didn’t get the memo. A new crime has been determined by the current House Intelligence Committee as chaired by Liddle Adam Schiff.

            The crime is conducting diplomacy using irregular channels.

            In other words, using channels not approved by the CIA. The CIA is the real ruler of the country. Apparently Trump didn’t get THAT memo. Or threw it away. Which is more likely.

            But……as Upchuck Schumer said…..”Don’t fuck with the Intelligence Boyz”. (Paraphrased)

        • Majella November 14, 2019 at 1:06 am #

          ‘Dog’s balls’…

          • benr November 14, 2019 at 1:37 pm #

            Answer: What the saint of mother hood licks?
            Just spit balling here at the low hanging fruit!

    • 100th Avatar November 11, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

      you mean the same slack-jawed dimwits that believe “electing” sociopathic lawyers biannually is going to make their lives better?

    • Sacker of Cities November 11, 2019 at 12:19 pm #

      Let us not forget, while the US was supplying Ukraine over a $1 billion dollars in aid, what country donated the most money to the Clinton Foundation. If you guested the Ukraine Ding, Ding, Ding! You won the prize. The poorest country in Europe was the biggest country donating to the Clinton Foundation. $10 million. From US taxpayers pockets to Hillary and Bill’s nest egg and all the time Uncle Joe was supervising. I do not need to know any more than that to know this was one large corrupt cesspool which had all the Dems feeding in it.

    • BackRowHeckler November 11, 2019 at 2:16 pm #

      Whitey Bulger’s son is in on it too.

      Well, goddammit, the endless lines of coke, the high end hookers, bottles of Champaign and 50 ft motor yachts that make up the ‘Season’ on Martha’s Vineyard … you got to pay for that sh#t somehow … it ain’t paying for itself for krissake.


    • Nightowl November 12, 2019 at 4:43 am #

      Iraq, too. Read up on Biden’s brother. Grift runs in the family.

  12. newworld November 11, 2019 at 10:47 am #

    You progressives do know the Cherokee Princess shtick is what poor no hope whites brandish as they buy yet another Dream Catcher?

    It is so socially pathetic that us other Deplorables cannot even mock the Wannabee Cherokees out of a sense of human decency.

  13. jrbergsten November 11, 2019 at 10:48 am #

    Here’s my theory…

    – Nobody expects Trump to lose.

    – Nobody expects impeachment to actually force Trump out.

    – Purpose of impeachment is solely to take Democrat players off the board based on introduced evidence.

    – Hilary’s continuing nonsensical pronouncements puts her back in the news cycle and public eye.

    – These all clear the path for Hillary to run “to save the country.”

    – Hillary has no expectation (and perhaps no desire) of winning but this gives her a period of prosecution immunity and most importantly

    – Fills her coffers from the same dupes that kissed up and paid for expected future influence the last time around which is the sole point of the exercise.

    – Meanwhile the lawyers on all sides continue to rake it in.

    In other words, all about money as per usual.

    Can’t imagine any of the pros being unaware of this. Everyone likes a good con.

    • So many liars November 11, 2019 at 10:52 am #


      Would absolutely LOVE to see Barr arrest her on stage at a presidential debate!!! They would have to cancel the election because there would be no contest.

    • rackslope November 11, 2019 at 11:03 am #

      I like it. Why do the libtards on this site, our “intellectual betters”, never come up with good hypotheses like this?

      • sprawlcapital November 11, 2019 at 12:31 pm #


        A better word would be “hypothetical,” IMHO.

    • Sacker of Cities November 11, 2019 at 12:23 pm #

      Received a picture of Hillary at one of her book signings and magnified it. Jeeez she looks like death warmed over. Now maybe you have seen one, but I have not seen a picture or video of Hillary standing on her dumbo legs. Can she stand? Is she attempting to do an FDR. I bet that women could not walk 100 feet without assistance.

  14. Beryl of Oyl November 11, 2019 at 10:52 am #

    It isn’t Donald Trump.
    The Democrats fixed it so nobody but Hillary could get in there, and the Republicans were set on aiding this by running yet another Bush as the other choice.
    Donald Trump disrupted their plan. Nobody else could have done it.
    He has also disrupted their revenue stream.
    Why are the old guard Democrats so stinking rich, as the gap between the 1% and the rest of us widened?
    Oprah told us Zero was The One. He wasn’t, and she quit talking about it.
    Diane Feinstein had a Chicom spy in her employ. Who was working for whom?
    Chuckie had a Pakistani spy working for him.
    The same guy and his family worked for the DNC. Why does no one talk about this?
    It isn’t about Donald Trump.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 11, 2019 at 12:03 pm #

      Meanwhile the Republicans (including Don Jr) are getting stomped all around America on the college circuit. Crowds of real Conservative kids keep asking about the Wall and how serving Israel makes America great. All the Dan Crenshaws can do is sputter and rave about how they are communists. Last night Don Jr and Co fled without even taking questions – after raving about how the Left refuses to debate.

      The Republican Party is dying too – or at least dividing. At long last a real alternative is appearing and ironically the Trumps aren’t part of it though Himself did help give it birth.

    • abbybwood November 11, 2019 at 12:05 pm #

      Don’t forget about the Awan brothers and their spying on half of Congress’ laptops via the corrupt harlot Debbie Wasserman Schultz!

      Funny how their criminal case just went poof! just like Epstein’s.

      From a federal charge of pedophilia to a dropped charge of prostitution! Not a bad deal!

      • Nightowl November 12, 2019 at 10:54 am #

        Ah, yes. The Awan brothers. I’d wager none of the TDS-stage-11 cases have even heard the name. Mockingbird Media in full effect.


        • Majella November 12, 2019 at 4:53 pm #

          “Shahid Imran Awan[1] (born 1980) is a Pakistani-American information technology worker. From 2004 to 2017, he worked as a shared employee for Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives.

          In July 2017, he was arrested on bank fraud charges as part of a federal investigation. After an 18-month investigation into alleged misconduct involving congressional computer equipment,[2] during which Awan was subject to conspiracy theories involving espionage, in July 2018 the investigation cleared him of such accusations.[2] On July 3, 2018, Awan pleaded guilty to making a false representation on a home equity line of credit application.[3] On August 21, 2018, U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan said the government’s investigation had found these conspiracies to be baseless, and sentenced Awan to time served and three months of supervision.[4][5]”

          The salient part:

          “After an 18-month investigation into alleged misconduct involving congressional computer equipment,[2] during which Awan was subject to conspiracy theories involving espionage, in July 2018 the investigation cleared him of such accusations.”

          I guess there’s just no legal power that Nightowl will accept as authority unless it concludes after investigation, that which he himself has concluded, without investigation. I’m guessing the judge involved had..what’s that elusive substance..? Ah. Yes. Evidence.

          • Nightowl November 13, 2019 at 5:28 am #

            What claim did I make?

            Provide a detailed reply and include concrete evidence.

          • Majella November 13, 2019 at 5:12 pm #

            You claimed:

            “none of the TDS-stage-11 cases have even heard the name”


            You also imply that

            “U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan said the government’s investigation had found these conspiracies to be baseless”

            is mistaken, hence my remark about what authority you may or may not accept.

          • Majella November 14, 2019 at 1:11 am #

            Oh look! A ‘Kali tragus’!

        • Nightowl November 14, 2019 at 3:39 am #

          No, Maj, that isn’t what I typed.

          You edited the quote to make it a claim.

          I am not you. I am far too smart. 🙂

          • Majella November 14, 2019 at 4:10 pm #

            Edited. Okay.

            Your full statement (including the claim) was:

            “Ah, yes. The Awan brothers. I’d wager none of the TDS-stage-11 cases have even heard the name. Mockingbird Media in full effect.”

            What’s different?

          • Nightowl November 15, 2019 at 5:09 am #

            There is no concrete statement of fact.

            I can teach you to think, Maj. It involves moving away from emotional outbursts.

          • GreenAlba November 15, 2019 at 7:17 am #

            Interesting, Nightowl.

            Others trying the same would be accused of weaselly sophistry, perhaps? I guess it depends who you are.

          • Nightowl November 15, 2019 at 8:47 am #

            No one else has altered a quote of mine to date.

            So, no.

          • GreenAlba November 15, 2019 at 2:21 pm #

            I meant your use of ‘I’d wager…[etc.] Mockingbird Media in full effect.”

            Then claiming it wasn’t a statement of fact. Well, no, but…

            And you even blamed your non-fact on the Mockingbird Media.

            Not that I’m taking their part, but neatly done, nevertheless.

  15. Robert White November 11, 2019 at 10:55 am #

    Republicans & Democrats all are corrupt & thieving criminals with state backing to be career criminals. The Duck is a career criminal that is POTUS due to Deutsche Bank and the loans they bought The Duck et al. with.

    Bloomberg is a vote splitter Republican that is attempting to shore up support for the Neoconservatives that have always supported his financial largesse. Bloomberg is ensuring that Warren will not attain power.

    Bloomberg is duplicitous & Janus-faced.


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    • rackslope November 11, 2019 at 11:08 am #

      “Career criminal”? GGG IS President because of loans? You actually have a reader following?

      • Robert White November 11, 2019 at 12:37 pm #

        No American businessman owes more money to Deutsche Bank than The Duck does. No tax returns were forthcoming from the current POTUS whereas all others have released their tax returns prior to attaining candidate status for electoral purposes. The Duck has fought due process over the release of his tax returns because they will obviously inform voters diligently vis-à-vis the veracity of The Duck’s claims about his net worth.

        If Deutsche Bank ever released details of The Duck’s current account deficit borrowing to maintain solvency they would in turn be releasing their own financial insolvency to the business community & associated speculators interested in shorting their stock.

        GE is the same Ponzi as Deutsche but on a smaller scale.

        The Duck’s tax returns will be a major election issue forward into 2020.


    • Nightowl November 12, 2019 at 4:47 am #

      What are the crimes? Provide concrete evidence for your claims.

  16. newworld November 11, 2019 at 10:58 am #

    This could also be one of the last gasps of white Democratic pols, except as outright explicit bag men for the Woke coalition of New Colonizers from far off foreign lands. See the various articles about Asian immigrants in the Blue Hives.

    • DrTomSchmidt November 11, 2019 at 11:23 am #

      I welcome the end of white Democratic politicians. AOC ALL of them out of office.

      • K-Dog November 11, 2019 at 11:31 am #

        Fine. Just don’t delude yourself into thinking any of their replacements will be better. Clues are as rare as virgins in America.

        • newworld November 11, 2019 at 11:59 am #

          Of course not, the New Colonizers won’t even be able to keep indoor plumbing for themselves much less us New Serfs.

          Right now the White Progressives virtue signal about this or that issue, they even pretend the New Colonizers want an end to climate change.

          Word of advice for my White Progressive friends we white connedservatives cannot save you much longer. You can whip us with your rhetoric of “sexist, racist and homophobic.”, but soon the bell tolls for you.

          • fugeguy November 11, 2019 at 12:24 pm #

            You are dead on which hurts me to say. My liberal social leaning has always been painful for me. Hard to be pro choice (all my life) when the litmus test for the policy is, to be kind, borderline pro infanticide.

            But hey, I must love lost causes because I am also a fiscal conservative, spend less than you make and invest the surplus in things that can increase future returns. What a quaint concept in MMT America…

            “Girls will be boys, and boys will be girls
            It’s a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world”

            And all this s3it will continue until it doesn’t. We are at terminal velocity. The boom shall be epic and make interesting reading should there be any left to write about it.

            “In the sound of the bell of the Gion temple echoes the impermanence of all things. … The proud ones do not last long, but vanish like a spring night’s dream. And the mighty ones, too, will perish like dust before the wind.”

          • K-Dog November 11, 2019 at 1:48 pm #


            I don’t know why but that little ditty witty reminded me of a passage from a Charles Bukowski book.

            Going downtown to the DMV or another such lie and Chinaski passes an LA hooker. (Bukowski was before the internet.) Chinaski mind says not today sister or something like that as Henry goes by. Money is tight and Henry has none for any of that.

            The DVM business or whatever done and on his way home Henery is stopped in traffic as an LA policeman beats the shit out of a young man in an intersection in front of him. Henry watches as the young man’s face is ground into the pavement over and over again. The original offense appears to have been jaywalking after which a smart-assed comment had been made.

            Bystanders are speechless. Henry Chinaski rattled, grabs the steering wheel of his car in a tight white fingered grip. The music on his car radio sounds like it is under water and far away.

            Almost home Henry parks. The hooker is still on her corner. The beating has put Henery’s mind in a different place. His now outlook changed he walks up and says fifty. (Again this is before the internet.) Together they quietly walk to his apartment.

            You made me remember that somehow. The impermanence of all things being at terminal velocity perhaps?

          • BackRowHeckler November 11, 2019 at 2:05 pm #

            Bukowski ended up buying himself a BMW, drove all over LA Coubty in it. Many people didn’t like him for that, thought he should’ve remained holed up drunk in some LA flophouse.

          • fugeguy November 11, 2019 at 3:09 pm #

            Charles Bukowski I have not read too much of his stuff. May have to change that.

          • K-Dog November 12, 2019 at 7:06 am #

            I remember in an interview he said he hated being taken to everyones’ dive bars. He lived as a drunk for decades but when his ship came in he had been in enough dark watering holes and wanted other stuff in the time he had left.

  17. PeteAtomic November 11, 2019 at 11:00 am #

    Thanks Jim.

    Something is very much in common with the players in this story: secret & not so secret CIA agents inside the White House, State Dept. bureaucrats & overseas officials, military “advisers” to sub components of various bureaus & agencies; these people all work for the interests for the permanent national security state.

    The Deep State has come out of the closet like some monster out of a child’s nightmares. Its goal: to continue the grand project of econo-military intervention & control throughout the world. Trump has been disrupting that, to the deep chagrin of the spooks & arms manufacturers alike.

    • oilie November 11, 2019 at 11:17 am #

      Au contraire, GG of G has given the arms merchants more money than they even had the nerve to request. But you are correct that the deep state came out of the closet to oppose GG of G at every turn, The question is whether Barr and Durham are capable of excising this cancer.

      • rackslope November 11, 2019 at 11:25 am #

        Yes. GGG is duplicitous at almost every juncture of note. It frustrates the hopeful vision of him being our savior against the globalists. It perpetuates the notion he’s a player in the biggest con.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 11, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

      Trump is Deep State. Business as usual. Keep America strong to serve the Corporations and Israel. More immigrants, always more! As long as they are “legal”. Promise the Base an end to the madness, then ignore them once you get in, talking about Black and Hispanic job figures. Sending the National Guard to the border to stand around and string a bit of wire. Defending the border is actually Illegal for the armed forces you see. Obama did the same dumb stunt.

  18. SW November 11, 2019 at 11:00 am #

    When impeachment proceedings began against Nixon the public trust in government was 65 to 70%. According to polls, public trust is in the low teens for Congress and this has been true for over a decade. Most people correctly see this as a corrupt system that doesn’t care if you have decent health care, a marginal standard of living or protection from predatory banks/credit cards. They’re living with the consequences that our “elected officials” would rather attend cocktail parties than do their job and they’re sick of all the posturing. Bernie inspired people b/c he seemed genuinely angry over the dismal prospects most Americans face and he wanted to do something about it. But it’s over for the Democrats — they switched from beer to champagne and they’re not about to go back.

    • abbybwood November 11, 2019 at 12:17 pm #

      When Bernie kissed Hillary’s ring after she and the DNC screwed him and his millions of supporters I knew it was all just “a work”.

      • SW November 11, 2019 at 12:30 pm #

        I don’t know what he was thinking — probably that Hillary was “the lesser of two evils” or maybe “the devil we know.” I wish he’d run as a third party candidate from the beginning but we can’t turn back history. Both parties are shams and it would have been a good time to introduce an alternative.

      • draupnir November 11, 2019 at 12:33 pm #

        He benefited nicely from that, if you recall.

        • BackRowHeckler November 11, 2019 at 2:07 pm #

          Yeah, he got that nice vacation house on Lake Champlain out of it. Sometimes we have to make sacrifices and weigh our options.


          • Majella November 11, 2019 at 4:32 pm #

            Brh – please, explain how the summer house purchase is in any way related to Hillary getting the nomination and his choice to endorse her?

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 2:27 am #


          • benr November 12, 2019 at 11:43 am #


            luLZ As if you don’t know.
            Crickets are what you should be eating or playing.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 3:33 pm #

            benr – no, I don’t know. here’s an opportunity to enlighten me…unless of course it’s just the conspiracy-theory-rumour-mill sort of garbage that you absorb through your skin?

          • benr November 12, 2019 at 7:08 pm #

            Hah that is rich considering the non-stop deranged tripe you spew progressive political theatre central.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 9:17 pm #

            “Hah that is rich considering the non-stop deranged tripe you spew progressive political theatre central.”

            Again with the deep & meaningful, well-thought-out logical ripostes that will leave me lost for words. Great stuff, there, benr.

            But I sense your frustration level is beginning to rise…eventually, your head will explode and all the stuporous RWNJ gunk will be gone. You’ll have some room to take on some new ideas.

            What a great day that’ll be for you, and probably for everyone who knows you.

          • benr November 13, 2019 at 5:55 pm #


            Wrong on all counts sunshine.
            Keep trying eventually you might get something right.
            Oh who are we kidding.

          • Majella November 14, 2019 at 1:54 am #

            Benr- simple denial is not an answer. You’re losing the tiny shreds of credibility you started with a couple of years ago.

  19. PeteAtomic November 11, 2019 at 11:02 am #

    I’d like to now how many democrat politicians are being paid by CIA front companies (?)

    • Nightowl November 12, 2019 at 4:56 am #

      There was a list of journos working with the DNC and CIA over at Wikileaks. Was quite helpful.

      Based on that alone, it is safe to assume that they are all compromised, as they all clearly march in lockstep, mouthing the same conspiracies and getting caught in the same lies.

      Tulsi may be the exception, but it’s difficult to say if her occasional truth spasms are legit or simply used for shock value, since the automatons don’t expect to hear such utterances.

      • PeteAtomic November 12, 2019 at 11:27 am #

        good to know! I’ll have to check that out.

  20. davidreese2 November 11, 2019 at 11:11 am #

    I’m a Bernie supporter myself, though I doubt he can get elected.

    Tulsi Gabbard is the only one who seems possibly electable. And the Democratic Party is doing everything they can to prevent her from getting the nomination.

    Haven’t they learned anything from 2016?

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    • abbybwood November 11, 2019 at 1:41 pm #

      Reminds me of the saying (Voltaire?): “Find out who it is you cannot criticize and I will show you who rules you”.

      In the case of Tulsi trying to cut the nose off the military industrial complex and their financiers (the Democrats in her case), obviously it is the Intell state and the military who are calling the foreign policy shots.

  21. K-Dog November 11, 2019 at 11:29 am #

    If Trump is still around to run against Warren he can sing:

    ‘Three wheels on my wagon. but I’m still rolling along. The Cherokee is after me; but I’m singing a happy tune!

    All together now…….

    • K-Dog November 11, 2019 at 11:38 am #


      Here is one version.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 11, 2019 at 12:08 pm #

      Don’t forget Cherokee Nation.

      Although I wear a shirt and tie
      I’m still part Red Man deep inside.

      • K-Dog November 11, 2019 at 12:20 pm #

        So proud to live …………..

        • Robert White November 11, 2019 at 1:22 pm #

          And lie………..?


      • stelmosfire November 11, 2019 at 2:30 pm #

        My Senator Lizzies theme song.



        She is so full of shit.

        • Nightowl November 12, 2019 at 5:01 am #

          The best was the “Cherokee” recipie she submitted to a cookbook.

          Claimed it was an old family recipie, passed down through generations. Someone researched it and found it was stolen verbatim from a famous French chef.

          Only a sociopath stacks lies about such mundane bullshit.

          • benr November 12, 2019 at 11:45 am #

            Ok while I think lil lizzie is a joke and a pathological liar she is a politician and it just seems to go with the lot of them and the worst of them is typically running under the Democrat banner.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 3:35 pm #

            I thought ‘pathological liar’ had become a required qualification to be POTUS, benr, at least based on most recent evidence…

  22. volodya November 11, 2019 at 11:31 am #

    What kind of bag? Bag? 

    Pelosi will be pulling an ox-cart full of steaming turds, all excreted by Deep State insiders, all for the purpose of fertilizing that fantastical field of dreams, variously called collusion or meddling or hacking, many of which would ostensibly be subject to the investigative spades of law enforcement given the malodor emanating from Nancy’s wagon. 

    I’ve said it before, that the Deep State will studiously ignore whatever Pelosi is pulling, no matter the cargo, no matter the stink. If past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior, given that the FBI managed to overlook elephantine piles of shit left sitting in plain view by Hillary, I would say there is no chance they’ll seriously entertain the notion of raining down indictments on the Deep State-Democrat malefactors infesting Washington swamp-ways, no matter the most in-your-face sedition, regardless of the most spectacularly corrupt schemes. 

    No chance, given that they passed on what to you and me looks like obstruction and the most obviously intentional criminal negligence, plus pay-to-play schemes involving huge sums handed over by the dastardly Russkis that Trump is supposedly in league with.

    Nope, if you’re looking for cozy relationships between Americans and vodka swilling steppe-dwellers, look to Washington Democrats and their families. The Bidens are neck deep, same with the Podestas, Bill had some handsome pay-days for sharing his nuggets of wisdom with good-fellas of the Slavic persuasion and oh yes, there was his mega-buck slush-fund. Yep, cleanliness in next to godliness as they say and all was clean, clean, clean, as antiseptic as a jug of Clorox. So say the Feds and if they say so it must be so.  

    Here’s the vory v zakone initiation scene in Eastern Promises: 

    The life story of these “thieves in law” or, as wiki calls them, “criminal dignitaries”, is written on their bodies as tattoos. 

    Everybody over the age of twelve knows that Hunter was in on the grift? Of course they do. So what? 

    Republican Party voters called bullshit on Republican Part pieties, calling them unfit for people with any semblance of sense or reason. 

    But, in my view, the average Democrat voter isn’t as advanced in his reasoning skills. Democrat voters, especially of the Hispanic or Black or non-White in general, are still in the thrall of the un-real. They still think the Democratic Party really, truly gives a shit about them. Sadly, they’ve yet to awake. How long it takes is anybody’s guess. 

    • Janos Skorenzy November 11, 2019 at 12:20 pm #

      Three kinds: brown, douche, and scum.

  23. trypillian November 11, 2019 at 11:59 am #

    Madame Pelosi wanted to grab the twins but got fallopian tubes instead.

  24. beantownbill. November 11, 2019 at 12:00 pm #

    The closest I could get to voting is for Tulsi. Unfortunately, I won’t because her Medicare-for-all proposal would bring down the country faster than it’s already failing.; and because the Dems won’t allow her to win. However, whose face would you want to see staring out at you on the tv every day, Hillary, Bernie, Trump or Tulsi?

    • abbybwood November 11, 2019 at 12:27 pm #

      My last rancid memory of The Queen was when she got busted for the illegal server and was forced to do a presser.

      Some intrepid reporter said, “Is it true you wiped that server?”

      Then Her Majesty said, “You mean, like with a cloth??!”

      Icky Wicky knows what Icky Wicky did even though Icky Wicky will never admit it (except maybe with leaked emails she never thought the public would read).

      Bleach bit anyone? No thanks. She already did that.

      • Nightowl November 12, 2019 at 5:03 am #


        But her emails.


    • stelmosfire November 11, 2019 at 2:44 pm #

      Hey Bill , JHK mentions Bernie and his resemblance to a ninth grade math teacher. I had a ninth grade math teacher. She was 25 and a recent college grad. Legs like a giraffe and long red hair. I was in love. I would act up to see if I could get detention. Unfortunately she was on to my tricks. Haha. I kinda kicked ass in algebra and calc. after that year.

    • Majella November 11, 2019 at 8:50 pm #

      What’s all this constant negativity about M4A?

      The current p.a. spend on healthcare (including private medical insurance premiums) is $3.5 trillion or 18% of GDP.

      Bernie’s plan is costed at $3.4 trillion p.a. Simple maths shows a net saving of $100 billion per year.

      The UK, Australia, Canada and Germany range from 6.93% to 10.17% of GDP. Seems to me that a decent public option will save the country a huge amount of money.


      • volodya November 12, 2019 at 9:58 am #

        If you don’t know what you’re doing, one thing you can do is you can look around to see what others are doing. Or you can ask them nicely.

        This simple notion however is beyond the capacity of the American intelligentsia, who, when busily digging the country’s grave, never stop to re-consider.

        As you say, there are numerous examples world-wide of systems that not only work well but are massively less expensive. Just look at the countries you mention plus maybe the Scandinavian countries.

        It’s not that it can’t be done, it’s that it won’t be done. Are both parties in the pockets of drug companies? No question. Do they do the bidding of health insurers? Of course.

        The system will never be reformed, the system will crash and burn, as will the financial system. Wisdom, foresight and forbearance, as we can see, is for wimps.

        • Majella November 12, 2019 at 3:39 pm #

          Your pessimism is probably well-founded.

          Even if, by some weird alignment of the planets, Bernie were to prevail, the push-back from the vested interests would likely confound any plan to get things changed, given the way the American government is structured.

          No-one can get anything actually DONE anymore.

  25. Flash in the Pan November 11, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

    Pelosi is The Bag

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  26. 4014HAMPHEDGE November 11, 2019 at 12:31 pm #

    Our house voted for Bernie in the last election, an honest man vs. the modern Jezebel. Original Jezebel, after 20 years of murders and havoc was finally eaten by dogs, and we anticipate how Hillary’s end fits the Biblical Ahab/Jezebel template.

    The Clintons ruled over 2 decades of drastic American culture change, finally stalled by a modern Jehu. Donald Trump is not a Godly man; Donald J. is God’s man raised up at the right time in American history. As was Jehu in the lexicon of Israel.

    Jimbo’s comment on Bernie as 9th grade math teacher brought to mind our 9th grade math teacher: He was a WWII veteran, 8th USAAF- flew Liberator Bombers in 1943. Over Ploesti…..look it up Memories of his lost flyer comrades still brought tears to his eyes. And ours.

    • messianicdruid November 11, 2019 at 3:24 pm #

      I thought he was talking about Warren.

      • messianicdruid November 11, 2019 at 3:25 pm #

        But, obviously she knows nothing about math.

    • stelmosfire November 11, 2019 at 4:20 pm #

      4014, My first Deputy Chief at the Firehouse was a Liberator pilot in WWII . Shot down and spent a couple years as a guest of Göring. After the war he was a crop duster and crashed into a motel in the Iowa somewhere. Busted face and a nose like a cauliflower. Man the stories. I was a young snot-nosed FF and he treated me as such.You do what I tell you because I say so. I learned a lot from that guy. If he could see the fire service as it is now I think he would flip.

    • Nightowl November 12, 2019 at 5:04 am #

      An honest man would have refused to support her.

  27. 100th Avatar November 11, 2019 at 12:38 pm #

    Yawn. This is the last gasp of the entrenched elite of a political party (the democrats) fully aware that the era of white privilege is at an end.

    The last chance for old white career politicians to have a shot at the title. The geezer squad of Bernie, Hillary, Fauxcahontas, Pelosi, and Biden made a deal with the devil and they want one more reprieve.

    One last go.

    They courted, embraced, and absorbed wokesterdom, extreme political correctness, victimization, and a particularly American brand of socialism to get votes and to get power.

    There are a few white folks that imagine themselves on the fringe of whiteness, like Buttygag. I may be white, but I’m also gay.. another victim class, a person off-colored.

    The only way these clowns can herd the cats of their party is to show how despite being white, and old, is that they’re victims, and if not victims, they at least feel the pain of the struggle.

    And fine, if you’re not buying that… I’ll give you free shit.
    Loan amnesty
    Immigration amnesty
    Free healthcare

    It’s all rather undignified, and hilarious.

    Crazy people make me laugh.

    With the world seemingly at an end, I cannot think of a better way to go out.

    Thank you.

    • Robert White November 11, 2019 at 1:16 pm #

      Free shit is as American as apple pie & baseball, man. Don’t knock free shit. When I went to the curb to take the garbage out last week I found two feet of brand new 3/4″ threaded rod & an unopened brand new pack of expensive floor tiles that I can use for flooring in my basement workroom.

      I live in Multi-Family units where brand new products are chucked into the trash pile every week. Everything from new air compressors to high end wooden antiques are chucked into the trash weekly in today’s society. Waste from the commercial sector & residential sector is mind bogglingly far too great to be sustained.

      The Long Emergency should include mountains of garbage IMHO.


      • K-Dog November 11, 2019 at 1:55 pm #

        Two feet of brand new 3/4? threaded rod is a score for sure!

      • stelmosfire November 11, 2019 at 2:59 pm #

        RW, Scavenge is my middle name. It drives my wife nuts. RRR, is the name of the game. I picked up a pressure washer yesterday at the curb with a good Honda 5HP vertical shaft engine. Stripped the engine off, got it running, and already dumped on eBay for 75 bucks. It’ll be in the wind to OK tomorrow for reuse. I truly can not believe the stuff that people throw away.

        • BackRowHeckler November 11, 2019 at 3:40 pm #

          Hey RIP I made enough $$$ on a scrapping run a few weeks ago to cover all Turkey Shoots between now and Thanksgiving. My wife says my truck is an eyesore it’s an embarrassment to have around. But I put it to good use,

          Incidentally, women folk have been in Europe for past 2 months, electric bill, water bill and gas for cars cut by 2/3. Conclusion: it’s the women in America burning up the energy and heating up the planet. Warm day, AC on full bore. Cool day: heat cranked up to the max. Hot showers, 15 minutes long. If I suggest maybe they should back off just a little bit, I’m a bully, a killjoy and a no good S.O.B.


          • fugeguy November 11, 2019 at 4:01 pm #

            BRH, you are right on the energy front. Plus 2 loads of laundry per week becomes 10.

            But it is what is…if you got a good one keep her. Harder and harder to fins ones that aren’t crazy and entitled. Not that most men are not getting the same way.

          • stelmosfire November 11, 2019 at 5:04 pm #

            Fugeguy, I caught a good one.I’ve been married 37 years. Strong Northern Italian blue eyed genetics.And boy can she cook. Strong willed but so am I . We disagree but that’s part of the fun. Me 6’3″ she 5′ 3″ And she can kick my ass all day long! Don’t mess with a hot-head Italian!

          • Janos Skorenzy November 12, 2019 at 3:20 am #

            An endless charade of talk like this has lead to women actually believing they are stronger than men. Your wife may be fine but the new breed is utterly credulous and uneducable. Any man who doesn’t echo what the TV says is a devil.

        • Robert White November 11, 2019 at 5:13 pm #

          Excellent find, stelmosfire. A perfectly good running Honda engine does not belong in the landfill. You deserve the $75.00 for having the brains to disassemble the pressure washer and then sell the motor on eBay. Heck, the Environmental Movement owes you a salute too.

          Greta cannot burn holes in your back now, eh.



    • lbs November 11, 2019 at 2:33 pm #

      One thing you’ve got to grant the progressive wokesters. Innovation. They offer a new brand of dystopia that has no historic precedent. Third reich, North Korea, China, Venezuela – none match the brand new version of hell on earth the progressive offer us. It might be easier to persuade the public of the menace they represent if one could point to a historic precedent. But there is none. Of course, there is a lot that those previous authoritarian regimes shared in common with what today’s progressives seek. But there’s really no example to poi n to that’s a great match.

  28. lbs November 11, 2019 at 2:40 pm #

    I wonder why establishment lapdogs like Defcon bother to preach on threads like this? It’s like political bumper stickers. I’ve been tempted to put a bumper sticker on my car along the lines of “Why would I vote for someone recommended by a total stranger who for all I know may be a total scumbag?”

    • lbs November 11, 2019 at 2:54 pm #

      That one’s too long-winded though.

      Here’s my upgraded bumper sticker:

      “I don’t care who you’re voting for”

      • lbs November 11, 2019 at 2:56 pm #

        I won’t sport that one though because I don’t want the kindly elderly couple that lives in the house next door who put up a Trump lawn sign back in 2016 to think that I’m targeting them.

      • EvelynV November 13, 2019 at 4:52 am #

        Why should anyone care what you care about? If you sport any kind of bumper sticker it means you overrate yourself.

    • Majella November 11, 2019 at 8:17 pm #


      We like to give you something to yell at.

      Maybe you’d prefer a pure echo chamber, where you all compete to outdo each other in how much you worship FFvCS? That’d be pretty fecking boring…

  29. messianicdruid November 11, 2019 at 3:17 pm #

    “…lodged in the janky financial markets, leaving everybody equally high, dry, and bankrupt.”

    Sounds to me like a Jubilee. All debts cancelled, since there is no ‘money’s to pay them. Everyone bankrupt, on equal ground, if you are able to defend it or nobody else wants it.

    A big cave in Mizzou might be nice…

  30. fugeguy November 11, 2019 at 3:58 pm #

    On a different note-


    Angry pro-Morales residents clashed with police and set up barricades–some lit up in flames–to block roads leading to the country’s main airport. A large mural near the airport read: “Evo: the people need you.””

    Scuttlebutt is that the usual fingerprints are all over this…

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  31. Pucker November 11, 2019 at 5:18 pm #

    Would you behead blokes with a big sword if it was a good job with paid holidays and benefits, and you didn’t have to sit in an office cubicle?

    Warren Pollock….


  32. Pucker November 11, 2019 at 6:44 pm #

    Does Pete Buttigieg feel “kinship” with Bill Cosby? Why is it that Homosexuals hang out in the closet? Why not on the basement or the attic? Some of them hang out in the Suzhou shopping district public toilet….

    DJ Judd
    Nov 10
    I asked Pete Buttigieg if he feels kinship w/ the marginalized from his time in the closet: “I don’t want to pretend that I know the experience of people who’ve been through something very different me” but “I’d like to think it makes me more conscious what a lot of people feel.”

  33. KesaAnna November 11, 2019 at 6:45 pm #

    ” THEN realize that those cultures, who never ever heard of God, or JuJu, or whatever, developed rules for mutual benefit… ”

    What I realize is that until cheap gasoline and even cheaper coal came along , pretty much that entire statement , in any era , any culture , would have been considered bat shit crazy.

    Oh , you had characters like Frederick ” The Great ” , and his boy – toy Voltaire ……

    Well , he was King of Prussia.

    I notice , though , that his own bullshit “witty” comments at table would not have been tolerated at any other table —-

    — in his own Kingdom .

    — per his own policies.

    You have your Kim Kardashian’s in any age , and the rules don’t apply the same to them.

    Except , typically , even then , they amount to scarce more than wanna – be Bohemian posers.

    As I just alluded to , Freddie , himself , imposed a rather draconian Lutheranism.

    It would seem , maybe , that he didn’t believe , or disbelieve ( ?? ) his own shit ?

    So much for your particular brand of reason and sense , at least until you became more affluent than is prudent.

    Though not for long.

    Even now you are hardly any sort of majority.

    But , hey , go right ahead and pretend otherwise.

    So much the better .

    • Majella November 11, 2019 at 8:38 pm #

      What are you on?

      I guess you’re right – my Kiwi educamacation must have been horribly deficient because that reads as complete twaddle to me.

      Either that or it’s extremely high-level stable-genius shit there…

      • BackRowHeckler November 11, 2019 at 8:44 pm #

        It’s the latter. Read it closely.

        • Majella November 11, 2019 at 9:05 pm #

          *whoosh) over my head. You’re welcome to it, you clever man, you.

          • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 5:32 am #

            Kesa could read out the telephone directory, Majella, and brh would hear Dostoevsky.

            “What I realize is that until cheap gasoline and even cheaper coal came along , pretty much that entire statement , in any era , any culture , would have been considered bat shit crazy.”

            What I realise is that if you’d mentioned ‘germs’ they’d have thought exactly the same thing. And yet…

            But what would I know? I’m a fuckin’ reptile? 🙂

      • Robert White November 12, 2019 at 8:09 pm #

        KesaAnna is on a creativity rant much akin to Pucker’s creative rants about Star-Trek characters and up-to-date script writing. One needs to follow artists closely as BRH advises in his infinite wisdom.


        • Majella November 14, 2019 at 1:16 am #

          That’s generous! Pucker makes me laugh, Kesha makes me grind my teeth.

  34. sunburstsoldier November 11, 2019 at 7:25 pm #

    For those of a more philosophical bent here is my take on what constitutes morality:

    To live for something ‘higher’ than the Self (God, family, country) is moral. Conversely, to live for something ‘lower’ than the Self (money, power, fame) is immoral. Why? To live for something higher than the Self lifts the Self to a higher dimension, the Self participates in this higher sphere and gains enhanced value and purpose thereby. This is expressed biblically as “those who receive a prophet as a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward”. On the other hand, to live for something less than the Self degrades the Self and lowers its value. Thus through the pursuit of money, power, or fame as ends in themselves the Self is literally corrupted and ‘brought low’.

    This is why I argue there are but two choices we can make in life: to ascend towards the ‘Light’ (morality) or descend into ‘darkness’ (immorality). ‘Light’ and ‘dark’ are thus, in this context, symbols for morality and immortality respectively.

    • Majella November 11, 2019 at 8:28 pm #


      That is the most succinct explanation of ‘morality/good’ & ‘immorality/bad’ I’ve ever come across. I couldn’t agree more wholeheartedly.

      I also note you haven’t invoked some supernatural being in this post and it’s my view that morality doesn’t require a higher/judgmental force.

      ‘Ethics is about what you do when nobody is looking’

      • KesaAnna November 11, 2019 at 9:38 pm #

        I also note you haven’t invoked some supernatural being in this post and it’s my view that morality doesn’t require a higher/judgmental force.

        Except that he did .

        The Prophets did not represent themselves , nor an unspecified …..something , like a ” force “.

        • Majella November 12, 2019 at 2:35 am #

          ‘as expressed biblically’ is not an invocation of a deity. He simply used a quote from an entirely human-constructed source.

      • sunburstsoldier November 12, 2019 at 4:19 am #

        ‘Ethics is about what you do when nobody is looking’

        I agree wholeheartedly Magella…

        • sunburstsoldier November 12, 2019 at 4:35 am #

          We do the right thing because it is the right thing, not as a consequence of some external force or compulsion…

        • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 5:34 am #

          Me too. We have the beginnings of a club.

    • toktomi November 11, 2019 at 11:04 pm #


      May I offer that you offer not philosophy but quite simply more tired dogma.

      Morality cannot possibly be a universally accepted set of righteous truths and behavioral mandates.

      Morality can only be a personal code of conduct, unique to each individual.

      Your definition apparently works for you. Revel in it. It is yours and yours alone [THANKFULLY].

      I love your dichotomy of life choices. Does its simplicity reflect your philosophical complexity?

      You realize, don’t you, that if you smear that stuff all over yourself and then dare to go out into public, somebody is going to stick their nose up at you.


      • Janos Skorenzy November 12, 2019 at 12:04 am #

        If it feels good, do it? Nothing great can come from a crap code like that but social breakdown.

        • sunburstsoldier November 12, 2019 at 4:21 am #


          • sunburstsoldier November 12, 2019 at 4:45 am #

            The relativistic worldview, that there are no absolute standards of right or wrong, prevents us from achieving consensus and thus leads us over the cliff as a Society. The real challenge philosophically is determining what those standards are, and how agreement upon them can be attained…

          • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 6:53 am #

            “The real challenge philosophically is determining what those standards are, and how agreement upon them can be attained…”

            Exactly, sunburst. And those disagreements, as some seem to forget, exist as much among the religious as beyond. It was easier to avoid the issue when everything read to you in church was in Latin, which was only understood by the educated – and there weren’t that many of them around, even among the priesthood. The whole of Europe for a long time listened in church to words of which they had not the slightest understanding.

            No wonder people were executed for translating the Bible by the Holy Joes who had the power..

            The story of William Tyndale is a sobering one. It has been estimated that over 80% of the King James’ Bible is based on Tyndale’s work, yet he was strangled to death, then burned at the stake, for heresy.

          • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 1:52 pm #

            I also agree with Toktomi.

            The basic morals that need to be agreed upon by society are the remit of politics. Others are nobody else’s business.

            I’ve always liked Bernard Crick’s definition of politics:

            “Politics are the public actions of free men; freedom is privacy from public actions.”

            To the degree that it does not follow this, what pertains is not politics, according to that view.

            I also liked:

            “Totalitarian rule marks the sharpest contrast imaginable with political rule, and ideological thinking is an explicit and direct challenge to political thinking.”

            In the same vein…

        • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 5:35 am #

          “If it feels good, do it? ”

          No. You appear to have forgotten about reason.

        • toktomi November 12, 2019 at 11:55 pm #

          @Janos et.al.

          Phuque! I love the simple mind.

          Morality is not about relativism or doing your own thing at the expense of entire Universe.

          And it sure as hell is not about pretending that there is any form of consensus or even widespread agreement on what is “RIGHT”. Phuque of dear, folks, we can’t even agree not to KILL. Likewise, it sure as hell is not about what any of you self righteous plumb-bobs proclaim it to be.

          It is, in fact, about logic. It is about a personal commitment to resolving cognitive contradictions [ie logic]. It is about aspiring to nice, to what each individual views as worthwhile to the overall good for all of us. IT IS ABOUT ATTEMPTING TO PURSUE A LIFE COURSE THAT ULTIMATELY IS A NET POSITIVE TO THE ELECTRON FLOW. And that process of moral aspiration is uniquely personal to every single individual soul on board.

          Lastly, I am tired at my old age of hearing the hackneyed, old, destructive dogma from what I consider to be morally corrupt plumb-bobs who are in a constant state of using what they proclaim to be the truth as weapons of control of others.

          But here’s the real thing about morality that no plumb-bob will ever figure out and why I grow more weary of tiny minds every day. Since I know nothing, I could be wrong.


    • messianicdruid November 12, 2019 at 10:51 am #

      To put away that which is not you and to embrace that which is you ?us ?.

  35. Pucker November 11, 2019 at 7:34 pm #

    Do you remember that episode of Star Trek in which the Overton Window was closing fast, and they had to get their ideas out fast before they were trapped forever in Politically Correct Orthodoxy and mediocrity? Spock saved-the-day by threatening to rip Scotty’s balls off if Scotty didn’t ram rod the warp drive engines and risk imploding the Universe.

    “Dominion” is a good book. It’s a “Hoot’n Annie”. At the end of the book, Holland basically says that the political and social movements of today including the “Woke” phenomenon are quasi-religious rehashed Christian hysteria. This is ironic in that “Christianity” itself, to some extent, may have been reconfigured Roman and early European paganism. The historic religious hysteria seems uniquely “Female” as women tend to be swept away by emotion. The aborting of the kids is very weird…. Holland does not mention abortion, but he does talk about the #MeToo Movement. Free Bill Cosby!

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    • hmuller November 11, 2019 at 9:50 pm #

      I remember when TNG Enterprise visited the planet of the unisexuals and Riker fell in love with one of them. “It” aspired to a female identity; and that was close enough for him. Later, Riker launched an unauthorized mission to rescue “her” from reprogramming but got there too late.

      Best line. The alien says: “Tell me about your sexual organs, Commander Riker.” Very direct.

      • PeteAtomic November 12, 2019 at 8:13 am #

        ha, yeah that was a good one

  36. malthuss November 11, 2019 at 7:37 pm #

    What about over night banking repo crisis?

  37. Pucker November 11, 2019 at 7:41 pm #

    Whatever happened to Ruth Bader Ginsburg? Didn’t they remove part of her lung?

  38. malthuss November 11, 2019 at 7:44 pm #


    Libtard professor attacks woman at Proud Boys get together, a female MMA fighter took her to the ground and held her for police.

    God what the woman says is so funny, claims to be a professor and jabbers on that she cant breathe.

    • Nightowl November 12, 2019 at 5:11 am #

      Best moment:

      “I am a professor!”

      Jeebus save us.

  39. capt spaulding November 11, 2019 at 7:59 pm #

    Donald Trump spent Veteran’s Day reminiscing about the military service he would have performed in Vietnam if he had not received a deferment because of his bone spurs. “I would have at least been awarded a Bronze Star, with a V for Valor,” he said. “There would have been plenty of instances where a man with tool steel balls like me would have stepped in and saved the day by taking out the enemy and carrying back my wounded comrades. Deeds like that, which would have resulted in VFW Posts all over the country being named after me. At this point, I’m content to just sit back and let the love from the men who would have been in my platoon, wash over me. This is a special day for me every year.”

    • Majella November 11, 2019 at 8:35 pm #

      Ha! It took me a couple of seconds to figure it was irony. I mean, it WOULD NOT surprise me at all if FFvCS did say/tweet that. He may yet…!

    • BackRowHeckler November 11, 2019 at 8:41 pm #

      He never said anything like that. The President was very respectful today.

      Quite a few presidents who were Commander in Chief during wartime never served in the military, Polk, Lincoln, Wilson, and FDR come to mind. But the President Trump most resembles — and admires — was one of the few real combat veterans we’ve had as president, Andrew Jackson.

      I’m not sure what your point is. I’m almost hoping a Dem wins in 2020; when things start going bad — as they most assuredly will — it’ll be our turn … we’ve seen how it’s done… our turn to grind up the new lefty pres into fine dust.


      • Majella November 11, 2019 at 9:10 pm #

        “Polk, Lincoln, Wilson, and FDR” – did any of them dodge a draft through misrepresentation?

        • Majella November 12, 2019 at 2:51 am #

          More crickets.

          • BackRowHeckler November 12, 2019 at 5:05 am #

            Can you even vote here, Majella?

            I mean legally?

            Not a mail in vote with a fake SS#?

          • Nightowl November 12, 2019 at 5:12 am #

            I give you permission to use tumbleweeds.

            We all know you wanted to.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 11:28 am #

            I’m a legal alien, brh. Residency.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 11:29 am #

            And still no answer.

        • benr November 12, 2019 at 5:06 pm #

          Misrepresentation how is an actual health issue a misrepresentation?
          One can be deemed 4f for something as minor as bee allergies!

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 9:26 pm #

            Right, It’s in the records:


            “In an interview with The New York Times last month, Mr. Trump said the bone spurs had been “temporary” — a “minor” malady that had not had a meaningful impact on him. He said he had visited a doctor who provided him a letter for draft officials, who granted him the medical exemption. He could not remember the doctor’s name.”

            Given his serial & pervasive duplicity and his father’s ‘connections’, I call bullshit.

            You believe just anything that FFvCS throws out at you, and adamantly disbelieve, by default, anything you don’t like. SIgns of cultism, much?

          • Nightowl November 13, 2019 at 5:56 am #

            So, condensed the story is:

            Trump went to a doctor who gave him a medical exemption from serving in the military.

            Somewhere in China, a sack of rice tips over.

          • Majella November 14, 2019 at 1:50 am #

            So, condensed, a shamelessly pathetic bullshit story to avoid a civic duty is utilised, and and somewhere in China a sack of rice tipped over.

            I await the tiresome demand for evidence. There isn’t any but ‘you just know it’s true’.

          • Nightowl November 14, 2019 at 7:54 am #

            The doctor’s note literally is the evidence of the medical exemption.

            Reelz not feelz.

        • cc rider November 14, 2019 at 11:38 am #

          The answer is ‘No’.

          Not sure Polk was ever subject to a draft though. Same for Lincoln and Wilson too, now that I think about it. But, I don’t think any of them would have dodged a draft through misrepresentation.

          We’ve had three Presidents now who in one way or another dodged the Vietnam War draft. BTW.

  40. Majella November 11, 2019 at 8:14 pm #

    Digestible climate science video for SSL (et al):


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    • K-Dog November 12, 2019 at 7:32 am #

      Pretty good. I like his point about the Egyptian pyramids, Were their no television nobody would be thinking aliens built them at all.

      Another interesting perspective is that if you were living in the 70s’ you might have been enlightened enough to come across the Exxon conclusion that doubling the CO2 would mean 2 to 3 degrees of warming. It would be easy to tell yourself.

      Doubling and only two or three degrees. A href=”https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F3d%2F65%2Ff5%2F3d65f51b4a4ba7944602ef60b7135bba.jpg&f=1&nofb=1″>Whats the big deal

      And if we get half way there and find we are in deep doo-doo from feedback loops and a biosphere that turns out to be way more sensitive than people imagined to temperature change we will just stop burning gas.


      • K-Dog November 12, 2019 at 7:53 am #

        That link is messed up, this one works:

        Two or three degrees, what’s the big deal?“>

      • capt spaulding November 12, 2019 at 7:06 pm #

        Actually K-Dog, people have connected aliens with the pyramids before. There was a theory going around that the pyramids were dead giant Republicans buried with the tops of their heads sticking out of the ground.

  41. Pucker November 11, 2019 at 8:52 pm #

    Beto O’Rourke
    Thinking about the women and men who’ve served this country in uniform and then continue to serve America as veterans. At a moment that we risk being defined by our differences, you show what it means to come together in common cause, putting country first.

    • Pucker November 11, 2019 at 8:53 pm #

      Beto puts women before men in his message….

  42. Walter B November 11, 2019 at 9:09 pm #

    To our illustrious host,

    There may be some that fault and deride you for adopting the attitude that the democratic party appears to be in its death throws, but anyone who could do so is really not anyone whose opinion is worth a damn in the first place. You and I and many who hang out here are all old enough to recall what the party stood for, how it acted and what it did or did not do for the system to be totally disgruntled and disgusted with what it has degraded into today. Will it recover or revert to something of value? Of course not, nothing that degrades ever does. The only real shame is that the only other party of power, the republicans, well they lost all usefulness long ago. I cannot even recall a candidate of value to be honest with you, although Abe Lincoln, despised as he may very well be these days, certainly represented the high water mark, at least IMHO.

    And so as we go on as a nation, every day, every month, every year shall bring further evidence that the very concept of a government of the people, by the people, for the people might very well have been a pleasant dream for primitive colonists fed up with dominance by a decrepit, foreign monarch, but in the end, what they wanted and created was simply not workable. Certainly not with the insertion of technology, pornography, and endless entertainment and of course, limitless debt. Somebody stick a fork in it for it is done.

    • Walter B November 11, 2019 at 9:32 pm #

      Wait a second! Teddy Roosevelt was a republican wasn’t he? I always associated him with the bull Moose party so I may have overlooked another possible valued republican.

    • capt spaulding November 12, 2019 at 7:54 pm #

      I agree with you, Mr.B, both of our parties have degenerated into corrupt organisations where legislation is bought and paid for on a daily basis. My parents and grandparents came from a time when the Democrats actually worked on behalf of the working man and his family, but sadly, those days are gone. As far as the Republicans go, they have always been the party of the wealthy, so they didn’t have far to descend. What has puzzled me, is how they managed to convince working class people that they were on their side.

      I know it started with Ronald Reagan, and they’ve been able to keep it going ever since. They know how to work the long con, and that’s a fact. If you had told my parents or grandparents that Republicans were on the side of the workers, they would have laughed in your face, and rightfully so.

      Either way, looking at the current situation, I don’t see much hope for the blue collar guys, and I have told my kids so as well. With the coming revolution in AI, and robotics, we’re gonna be looking at a completely different world. Throw in climate change, and the problems that will come with it as well, and the future doesn’t look very promising. I’m doing what I can to try & prepare my kids for the coming shitstorm, but really it’s a flip of the coin as far as how things will work out. The one thing I do know, however, is that the wealthy will do better than the rest of us.

  43. KesaAnna November 11, 2019 at 9:18 pm #

    ” Not sure why two wrongs make a right, ”

    Since I didn’t write such , I wouldn’t know.

    ” And I made no comment about the DDR, as far as I remember. ”

    I didn’t say you did.

    “even though you reserved some contempt for the escapees too, from your moral high horse, as I remember.. ”

    I didn’t say that either as I recall. As I remember , my observation was more along the lines of ;

    in the East German case you call them flights to freedom , and the persons involved heroes and such .

    In the case of your own countries though , you call them ungrateful wretches , undesirable anyway , and traitors.

    ( Rather just like East Germany did. )

    The last one is often a really cute touch.

    Not uncommonly , your countries ( rather like East Germany )

    Call those who tell you to your face that they dislike you , and tell you forthrightly that they want to join the other team ; Traitors.

    But you give medals to people who stab you in the back , pretend to be your friend when they are not , and BRAG about lieing to you.

    ” Kesa, ma’am, you appear to have misunderstood my use of the word ‘dominatrix’, ”

    I didn’t even consider it.

    You are a dogged and , indeed , skilled , sophist .

    But rather often lately , you tip over into the plain absurd , so that , believe it or not , I’m embarrassed for you .

    And it is tedious.

    And the subject never appealed to me . BDSM ?

    It strikes me generally and typically as tacky , grossly – overblown , stilted somehow.

    So , like I said , I didn’t even consider it.

    ” which is understandable. ”

    Good , I suppose ?

    As for myself , I cannot imagine the significance or relevance of it , and of no particular interest.

    ” I would slip in an apology there for the ambiguity were it not for your unfortunate personality. ”

    A person willing , and seeing nothing peculiar or exceptional , in telling their daughter that in a brief time it will be as if her grandmother never existed , doesn’t exist , and that her life amounted to , amounts to , nothing —

    — no, I don’t suppose you would actually say that , not that it matters . It is the plain implication of what you assert, I’m not particularly bright , but that was plain enough when I was fucking eight years old. —

    Any sort of apology from such a person would not be the least meaningful. Josef Mengele did less. He only tortured and killed people. You would erase people , and meaning , and it does not seem to bother you in the slightest.

    And yet you claim to empathize , in a context where it clearly could not have any import ?

    Apologize ?? To what end in a future you posit won’t exist ?

    Utter gibberish !

    ” It referred to the way brh worships you and your rather abrasive tongue …”

    Relevance ??

    You don’t even like me , and given the way you talk to him , it is hard to credit the claim that you like him either.

    And why he would think you did like him , I likewise cannot imagine.

    In any case , what the Hell does this have to do with anything ?

    ” … and the way elyisianfield does the same but with a bit of sexual innuendo added in for good measure, implying he’d enjoy a good tongue lashing. ”

    Where police are concerned ; Well , he might like me , or he might not like me . That’s an unknown.

    It could be known , sure.

    He lays down the gun , he disavows the badge.

    Now we are something like equals.

    Now it’s maybe a good bet he is on the level.

    He refuses ?

    Well, no , that does not PROVE the case against.

    But it sure is a damn strong evidence indicating a negative.

    So , certainly in that case , like and dislike are completely irrelevant.

    ” You think I’d INVITE one or your diatribes? Really? ”

    I wouldn’t know.

    Well, I haven’t kept an exact accounting , but over the past two or three weeks you have addressed me three or four times directly in circumstances where I did not address or mention you , or invite you in , and did not reply.

    And yesterday , I was replying to statements you made regarding , or at least referencing , me.

    But then that is hardly the first occasion when you have implied , or flat asserted , a provably false chronology.

    ( Provable — it’s the same blog , they are hanging out here anyway, they could look it up. no need whatever to take my word for it. )

    • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 7:15 am #

      I neither like you nor dislike you, Kesa. You’re a name on a blog. For all I know you could be of the same status as you have on occasion suspected Janos.

      But, assuming, as I do, that you are real, and your stories are real, I feel sorry that you had to do whatever you had to do that you’d rather not have had to. If you don’t regret it, it doesn’t matter and my sympathy isn’t required. It isn’t required anyway, obviously. I also wish you had been able to find work that you enjoyed, didn’t feel was morally demeaning (like the job in the lawyer’s office or the one where in the hospital where there was nothing to do) and that paid a decent wage. Your situation is unusual. You are the child of engineers (and not a millennial), yet a job that you find bearable seems to elude you. Perhaps that is just because of the rarety of such jobs where you live. But I don’t live in the US and, as you rightly point out, the situations are different.

      I wish that were not the case, whatever you think. But I don’t respect anyone who can’t cope with another person’s inability to believe what they believe. There is something wrong with that.

      Reality does not change because of what we believe. What matters to you – and to anyone in the situations you like to describe – is that you believe there is a heaven. If there isn’t you will never know. Most people do not deny the social or psychological usefulness of religious belief. Even Dmitry Orlov’s at it these days. Perhaps he’ll turn into a deathbed Christian, like Constantine.

      “A person willing , and seeing nothing peculiar or exceptional , in telling their daughter that in a brief time it will be as if her grandmother never existed , doesn’t exist , and that her life amounted to , amounts to , nothing —”

      I have told no child, either mine or anyone else’s, any such thing, and never would. And my mother’s life did not amount to nothing, regardless of whether she was right or I was. You are way less honest than you think. But then you presume a lot.

      • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 7:26 am #

        This is a website for thinking adults, exchanging ideas, and your Torquemada complex is your own problem.

        • PeteAtomic November 12, 2019 at 11:24 am #

          wow, Torquemada… now that’s a name I haven’t heard for a long time!

          • capt spaulding November 12, 2019 at 8:00 pm #

            Hey Hey Hey-It’s the Auto-De- Fe

          • Majella November 13, 2019 at 3:40 am #

            ‘No-one expects The Spanish Inquisition!!!’

      • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 7:30 am #

        I told you already that when my mother died, I arranged her funeral. I chose my favourite hymns. We ended by singing the beautiful ‘The Lord bless thee and keep thee’, normally reserved for baptisms in the Church of Scotland. You are clever, but also clueless.

      • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 9:31 am #

        And I find myself wondering what kind of person you were before you were a Christian. There are some things about your trajectory that are unsurprising and not at all uncommon. I see parallels with some other, much more harmful trajectories. But I’ll keep those to myself.

        I guess if SSL is allowed to surmise about my supposed unconscious spiritual struggles, I am allowed the same mental meanderings. And yet, probably not.

      • SoftStarLight November 12, 2019 at 10:13 am #

        Stop playing the victim card and meander all you want. I think it is laughable actually. For the most part no matter who you argue with you are treated with respect here. The same cannot be said for me. Not that it matters other than in pointing out that you are not a victim. Neither am I. But in general, don’t you like mental meanderings?

        • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 12:39 pm #

          I’m not playing the victim card – I wasn’t talking to you, SSL, but merely using the comparison. What was in my mind was something Kesa said an age ago, which I vaguely remember was about the patronising attitude she saw in anyone intellectually observing the reasons for religious belief down the centuries rather than just, you know, embracing the truth of it. So I was anticipating and deflecting that particular criticism by pointing out that being told you aren’t even aware of your own ‘spiritual struggles’ is pretty patronising, coming from those on the other side. No victimhood. Just a parry.

          “Have you ever been told that you never had an original thought in your entire life?”

          Maybe that’s worse than being called a whore, reptile and child molester, I wouldn’t know. 🙂

          It certainly is the school of hard knocks on here, isn’t it? The reptile thing just makes me inwardly grin now. You have to own it, as with some other epithets!

          Das grüne Reptil

          • benr November 12, 2019 at 5:19 pm #

            Is there such a thing as an original thought?
            Ponder what that actually means!
            Out of the hundreds of billions of humans that have lived before no one has thought that exact thought.
            Is that really such an insult?
            Reptile everyone has a reptilian side so naw not really an insult.

            Whore provides a service considering its the true first profession not really an insult per se since we all whore ourselves out in some manner.

            Now Child molestor in the modern sense of the word is a pretty good insult just don’t consider Islam or most of India in that actual insult as they marry them off really young by western standards.

          • GreenAlba November 13, 2019 at 6:28 am #


            For someone who has berated posters for ad hominems lobbed in his direction, that’s pretty neat.

            But I suppose one should be grateful for the minor indulgence of considering it significant to call someone a child molester when they’ve never molested a child, even aurally.

            You guys are good at showing your true colours, I’ll give you that.

          • Q. Shtik November 13, 2019 at 1:20 pm #

            For someone who has berated posters for ad hominems – GA


            Here’s one for anyone it fits:

            “Thou paltry shitten varlet” by Francois Rabelais

          • Majella November 13, 2019 at 5:20 pm #

            Nice, Q.

            I then looked up:


            The VERY FIRST one in the Best 50 List is this:

            “A most notable coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.”

            I guess we all know at least ONE of those.

          • GreenAlba November 13, 2019 at 8:22 pm #

            ““Thou paltry shitten varlet” by Francois Rabelais – Q

            Not everyone can aspire to such rudeness that their name becomes used adjectivally. 🙂

        • EvelynV November 14, 2019 at 5:53 am #

          SSL, don’t be absurd.

          Of course GA is treated with respect.

          Of course you are not.

          Props to you for having enough self awareness to recognize those facts. Do you have sufficient self awareness to appreciate the aptness of those facts?

          • benr November 14, 2019 at 12:43 pm #

            As if anyone gives a rip about what you think or say.
            Disrespectful shrew at best unless someone is in lockstep with your ridiculous belief system.

      • SoftStarLight November 12, 2019 at 10:17 am #

        Have you ever been told that you never had an original thought in your entire life?

        • messianicdruid November 12, 2019 at 11:17 am #

          No, but I myself suspected it. “Plagarism is the essence of culture.” The purpose of reading is in guessing the motivations for the words we read. When you find gems you ponder them, polish them and eventually set them in your crown. The leather cord tying it together is your own gumption [ or curiosity ]. Culture is worth keeping, those who dont, build on mud.

          • SoftStarLight November 12, 2019 at 11:40 am #

            Thank you. That is actually a very profound statement! One I wouldn’t have thought of myself. But now I have another gem of wisdom!

          • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 12:40 pm #

            “No, but I myself suspected it. “Plagarism is the essence of culture.””

            I think there is some truth in that, MD.

            Reminds me of that saying that there are only a dozen basic plots for stories. Or whatever the modest number is. Might even be seven.

          • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 12:42 pm #

            “Plagarism is the essence of culture.”

            And since imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, people in a shared culture are basically just patting each other on the back. 🙂

          • GreenAlba November 15, 2019 at 8:42 am #

            Scotland, with its schizophrenic ‘Scottish cringe’ and ‘Scottish breenge’, has its own version.


            “Here’s tae us; wha’s like us? Gey few, and they’re a’ deid.”

            (“Here’s to us; who is as good as us? Damn few, and they’re all dead” – a classic, traditional Scottish toast showing drunken sentimentality at its very best.”)

        • Majella November 12, 2019 at 3:45 pm #

          I seem to recall telling YOU that once. Did it hurt? If so, I’m sorry.

    • Majella November 12, 2019 at 8:37 am #

      “ but over the past two or three weeks you have addressed me three or four times directly in circumstances where I did not address or mention you , or invite you in…”

      What’s this ‘invite you in’ bullshit? That’s a Janos/SSL complaint, like they think it’s a private communication.

      As GA states above, your issues are your own. If you don’t want a response or reaction, don’t publicise them.

      • SoftStarLight November 12, 2019 at 9:13 am #

        You should practice tact and grace. You have it within you, particularly your alter ego has it a bit more than you my dear manifestation, I mean Majella. God is so much more than the simplistic duality of Light and Dark. And communication is so much more complex than what you affect to believe it to be. If you don’t understand those times in which two individuals are talking to one another versus when individuals are speaking to wider audiences, well then, I would say your schooling in the arts of communicating, manners and pleasantries are deeply wanting. Even waitresses who have no dignity understand these things sweetie ;-).

        • Majella November 12, 2019 at 9:24 am #


          No matter how you it ‘spin’, this a public forum. If you have something private to say, don’t say it here, and don’t expect some ‘polite’ indulgence from me.

          And there you go again, psychoanalysing me. You only embarrass yourself with the drippy religious tripe.

          • SoftStarLight November 12, 2019 at 9:43 am #

            Patience is a virtue my Southern Hemisphere friend. Nothing about anything private was mentioned. Simply that there are times in which two individuals are speaking to each other within a thread. Sometimes, about things only they understand. And whether it is a public space or not has no bearing on what I stated above. So when someone says they were not addressing you or speaking to you, or that you are not really a part of the conversation, they have that right as well. Your argument reminds me of people who allow their dogs to relieve themselves anywhere, even in neighbors yards and driveways. After all lawns or lawns right, just like screens or screens right? I think you understand discernment.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 11:06 am #

            Like I said, don’t expect some sort of indulgence.

          • SoftStarLight November 12, 2019 at 11:38 am #

            Well then I shan’t indulge you lol!

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 3:48 pm #

            I really hadn’t noticed you indulging me in any way SSL, though perhaps you mean when you say things that indicate I’m unable to know my own mind, and that, really, if I would ONLY LOOK AT MYSELF, I’d see I’m a god-deluded white supremacist…like you.

    • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 9:56 am #

      “You don’t even like me , and given the way you talk to him , it is hard to credit the claim that you like him either.

      And why he would think you did like him , I likewise cannot imagine.

      In any case , what the Hell does this have to do with anything ?”

      For the last, nothing much, except that brh was telling me to lighten up, but you are the least light person on here and he would never dream of telling you the same, since he sees you as Kesa Fyodorovna. Which is fine, but it amused me.

      I do not recall saying that I never respond to your posts. Sometimes I do, including recently – but about issues or ideas in them. I most definitely would not invite a diatribe by deliberately attempting to insult you by making snide remarks about the profession you keep telling us about. What you did for a living is neither here nor there to me, since you chose it quite clinically, from what you say. I’m only sorry you had to if you are too.

      As regards brh, his views on climate change, intransigeant as they are, drive me nuts in their irrationality. Likewise a number of incredibly one-sided views of my country. And he does periodically send personal barbs my way, full of confrontation about this or that issue. But if I were to find myself in the US, for some unknown reason, I could probably think of at least half a dozen people on here – also just names on a blog – with whom I’d be happy to spend an hour or two over a drink, out of very benign curiosity and normal human friendliness. And brh would be one of them. I didn’t always think that. And on a bad day I still don’t. He seems to be fairly tolerant of me too, in a similar manner. And his domestic set-up with the Spanish ladies sounds fun.

      Others, who sometimes mirror his views, nevertheless do not tempt me to do the same. With yourself, a view from a distance of about 50 yards might satisfy any curiosity. But there isn’t much. Way too scary.
      My parents put the fear of God in me for my young years, but you’re way worse.

      • GreenAlba November 14, 2019 at 6:38 am #

        I should mention also that brh comes with a personal recommendation to me from ozone for his character! That has value, rightly or wrongly, in my eyes.

  44. sprawlcapital November 11, 2019 at 9:52 pm #

    I know, weather is not climate, and I am not an AGW denier, but I have to admit I find it reassuring that we are about to set records for cold, not heat, this evening. It’s predicted to be 0 deg. F by 7 am, here in Des Moines. That’s 32 degrees of frost, as Jack London would state it.

    Fossil fuel is keeping our house warm. I’m glad that to light the gas burner in our furnace, I need only set the thermostat higher. I don’t have to attempt to build a fire when my fingers are too numb from cold to pick up a match.

    • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 7:21 am #

      “but I have to admit I find it reassuring that we are about to set records for cold, not heat, this evening. ”

      Just as well you are not in Queensland or New South Wales, sprawlcapital. I heard last night that 600 schools had had to be closed.


      More records…last summer was Australia’s hottest on record.

      Ten years ago I read a post by an Australian who was buying property for his grandchildren in the UK, looking ahead. Wise man. There will be a climate exodus from parts of Oz too, in due course, not just Guatemala and the like.

      • SoftStarLight November 12, 2019 at 9:15 am #

        Hmmm, quite a bit of focus on the Australasian lands here recently. I wonder what is occurring in Scotland lol?

        • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 9:59 am #

          Nothing much. The biblical flooding is in Yorkshire at the moment. But I consider them my compatriots too.

          Not sure what your point is.

          • SoftStarLight November 12, 2019 at 10:11 am #

            I was just curious that’s all.

          • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 12:58 pm #

            It’s been on the news. Both the floods in Yorkshire and the extreme wildfires amid the prolonged drought in Queensland and NSW. The last time I remember hearing that much about Queensland was the biblical floods a few years ago. And so it goes.

            That’s all. And a good friend of mine (the one from Paris) was visiting her brother in Scunthorpe, near Doncaster, one of the badly flooded towns.

            A propos of nothing, Scunthorpe (which is as prosaic a town as it sounds) finds itself unfortunately blanked sometimes in internet searches, because of its unfortunate spelling. The things you learn on here…

            It’s just had some good luck, though, as its yet-again-dying steel industry has just been bought by some relatively small Chinese outfit, so the jobs are safe for another season. It’s a town with not much else to offer in the way of work, like Sunderland, which has the Nissan factory.

            People who go on about Brexit as if post-EU Britain was going to be some kind of nationalist economic powerhouse, would do well to remember who we have to thank for a lot of the jobs. That’s why I see economic sovereignty for the UK as one of those unicorn rainbow farts.

            Sorry, digressed there.

      • benr November 12, 2019 at 5:23 pm #

        And yet watching Naked and Afraid I see even in the tropics people freezing their asses off.
        Same as it ever was….same as it ever was…same as it ever was.


  45. KesaAnna November 11, 2019 at 10:24 pm #

    ” So what’s the problem with the process? ”

    with the possible exceptions of Carter and Ford ( ? ) every president since Nixon has been through this circus.

    Near 50 years of an episode of , ” The People’s Court ” .

    ( The People’s Court is a faux court TV show. )

    And it’s not two guys in an office , it’s hundreds of lawyers , and not the 500 – dollar – an hour kind of lawyer either.

    I suppose some would say that justice shouldn’t have a price tag ,

    but I suppose it might be sadly amusing to see them explain that , face to face , to the person who will starve to death on account of it.

    On a personal note , I think this absolute obsession with a single public official is down – right unhealthy.

    It may not be dictatorship or Absolutism in the letter of the law , but it certainly already is in spirit.

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  46. toktomi November 11, 2019 at 11:19 pm #


    Geez, James, American national politics and politicians.?.

    Is there anything less important or less interesting in the world? I mean, you could take any headline from RT and expound on it with your savoir flare for literary expression. It would be a treat. Or possibly, you could speak to the interminable acts of American imperialism and aggression being suffered terribly around the world. Anything remotely believable would be better than the farcical and nonsensical theatre of national politics.

    On second thought, never mind.


  47. malthuss November 12, 2019 at 12:43 am #

    James Kottak used to drum with heavy metal band The Scorpions of “Rock You Like a Hurricane” fame after he was unceremoniously booted out—and mind you, heavy-metal boots are not only hard, they’re very pointy—a few years back for being a lush.
    He now drums with the band Kingdom Come, which is a little sad when you consider that he’s in his fifties and that there’s not much “metal” about arthritis.

    He recently tweeted that he felt modern advertisements were pushing an agenda of miscegenation that reflected nothing he’d ever seen out here in the real world with his bloodshot eyes:
    You know I am sick of every other commercial having inter racial couples…this is not reality. It is Hollywood shoving it down our throat. I don’t have one friend or friends who live in this category…just saying

    It’s a good point. The advertising industry pushes “the swirl” in everything, not only when it comes to portraying couples. Have you ever hung around with “the guys” on a Sunday afternoon watching football, eating guacamole, and drinking beer? Did your group ever include that one black guy you see in all the commercials

    • Pucker November 12, 2019 at 1:22 am #

      I don’t have any Nigerian friends.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 12, 2019 at 1:48 am #

        What about friends from Niger? Or Lesbos?

        Can one use the word “Nigger” to distinguish a person from Niger from a Nigerian? Or perhaps Niggerian as a compromise?

        • Majella November 12, 2019 at 2:41 am #

          Why pretend you give a toss? You managed to slip in a ‘nigger’ (without the quote marks) a couple of threads back. Why not just speak as plainly all the time? What holds you back?

          • Janos Skorenzy November 12, 2019 at 3:14 am #

            You are a coarse person, far more so than me. In your mind, it is always nigger, nigger, nigger.

            A student once asked his teacher what to mediate on. The Teacher replied anything, anything except monkeys. Of course the student could think of nothing else. Thus it is with you, the consumate anti-racist racist.

            Note her careful use of the protective talisman, the “quotation marks”!

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 8:09 am #

            What an arrogant pseudo-intellectual twat you are.

            Your racism – you wear it proudly! Why don’t you just go all out and use the words here that you no doubt use in your head, and, quite likely, when discussing your bizarre attitudes & beliefs with your huge cohort (maybe three?) of like-minded bigots at your weekly basement meetings of ‘Nazis R Us’

          • HapMan November 12, 2019 at 8:18 am #

            Majella – This guy is deranged. Why bother?

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 8:25 am #

            ‘ Note her careful use of the protective talisman, the “quotation marks”!’

            Ha! I WAS quoting you, hence quotation marks. You’re simply not as clever as you tell yourself, Jesuit education notwithstanding.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 8:27 am #

            Hap man -good question…but from time to time it does one good to call him out for what he is.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 8:29 am #

            Protective quotation marks? What are these?

            ‘ Can one use the word “Nigger” to distinguish a person from Niger from a Nigerian? ’

          • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 9:00 am #

            One can call one of them a Nigerian and the other a Nigerien (with some attempt at the French pronunciation), as is accepted practice.



          • messianicdruid November 12, 2019 at 9:23 am #

            Your use of quotation mark’s is niggardly.

          • SoftStarLight November 12, 2019 at 9:25 am #

            So much concern for a word. A word of Niggers for Niggers at this point. But if one was truly concerned for a people they might expend all of their efforts on those people. Perhaps that is the journey needed here for those who hold themselves up as if they are bastions of freedom from the inbuilt instincts of racial discrimination and in-group preferences. Majella you should be a Secular Missionary in Africa. I could see that as being a potentially rewarding role for you. Or you could direct those efforts to your native? Maori.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 11:10 am #

            Messi – do I dare call out the Greengrocer’s Apostrophe?

            SSL – your patronising tone is only eclipsed by your singular lack of an ability to make any sense.

          • messianicdruid November 12, 2019 at 11:34 am #

            “Messi – do I dare call out the Greengrocer’s Apostrophe?”

            I could hardly say, “Your use of quotations is niggardly.” You know, the stuff you like. Marked red.

          • SoftStarLight November 12, 2019 at 11:36 am #

            You say that but I know it makes perfect sense to you. Why must you fight with me so much when I am trying to be nice to you. You think friendship is always cupcakes and glitter swirls? When my friend wants to let me know she is concerned she doesn’t tell me how wonderful I am. She tells me that I am out of my mind (during that particular moment only of course). I am just trying to say that it seems you must but your heart where your mind is. I apologize if I have upset you.

          • SoftStarLight November 12, 2019 at 11:38 am #

            put your heart…

          • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

            “I could hardly say, “Your use of quotations is niggardly.””

            Majella just meant you could have said ‘your use of quotation marks is niggardly’, without making your use of apostrophes greengrocer-ly. 🙂

          • Q. Shtik November 12, 2019 at 2:25 pm #

            A student once asked his teacher what to mediate on. – Janos


            mediate: verb
            intervene between people in a dispute in order to bring about an agreement or reconciliation.

            So Janos, was this some kind of a law class?

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 3:57 pm #


            ‘You say that but I know it makes perfect sense to you.”

            See? There you go again…telling me that I DON’T believe what I say.

            To be completely & utterly honest, SSL, with regard to that particular post I was responding to:

            The first 3 sentences really don’t make any sense in any language. Read it again, if you dare.

            The rest of it is patronizing claptrap.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 8:01 pm #


            You COULD also have correctly said:

            “Your use of the quotation mark’s niggardly.”

          • toktomi November 13, 2019 at 12:15 am #


            I do agree with your assessment, not that my agreement means a damn thing.

            I would offer a thought.

            Every living creature is dedicated to self first and then less so to each shell outward. Offspring are self.

            It is not that any of us are not “ist”. All of us along with all creatures are “ist’s” in every form possible.

            The condition should not be a basis for shame or self-loathing as in the some newest liberal horse shit because…

            it is not what we are that defines us; it is what we do with what we are that we must answer for.

            “How could anyone submit a handwritten resumé for such a prestigious job? I am dismissing this person out of hand.” Had it been solely my decision we would have missed a great opportunity in hiring this person who turned out to be so very amazing and talented.

            Yes, there are pigs hereabouts who tiptoe around the rim of propriety as they attempt to foist their emotional foibles off to affect negative responses towards entire groups of people. I enjoy that you call them out to answer for what they do with who they are.

            jes my op

      • malthuss November 12, 2019 at 10:27 am #

        not sure what you are implying.

    • sprawlcapital November 12, 2019 at 11:49 am #

      The advertising industry pushes “the swirl” . . .
      The food court at Costco also pushes the swirl. It’s frozen yogurt in chocolate and vanilla, swirled together, It’s a delicacy for deplorables, like me.

  48. Pucker November 12, 2019 at 1:12 am #

    Would you you behead people with a big huge sword if it was a good job and offered paid holidays and good benefits?

    Those Corrections Officers jobs suck as they only pay $9 bucks an hour. But you can supplement your income by helping prisoners smuggle drugs into the prison.

    Warren Pollock….


    • stelmosfire November 12, 2019 at 7:14 am #

      Puck Imma gonna haf to dwell on dat 1 for awhile. As far as corrections guys go my ass is big ‘nuf for a brick of crack! Haha crack!

    • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 8:50 am #

      “Would you you behead people with a big huge sword if it was a good job and offered paid holidays and good benefits?”

      It used to be a very respectable profession. Wasn’t a renowned one brought in specially from France to dispatch Anne Boleyn in expert fashion?

      You got tips too, from the victim, in the hope of a quick clean demise. Unlike that of poor Mary Queen of Scots who had to suffer two bungled attempts to remove her head before the third time lucky. Although I think that was an axe.

      Rumour had it yer man from France distracted Anne for a split second and had her head off before she could say ‘zut, alors…’.

      • malthuss November 12, 2019 at 10:28 am #


        A derrick is the platform the executioner stood on.

      • capt spaulding November 12, 2019 at 8:15 pm #

        At one time, executioners were allowed to have sex with the females, after their execution. Presumably because no woman would sleep with them. It gives a whole new consideration to the expression “Getting some head.”

        • GreenAlba November 13, 2019 at 7:00 am #

          Also reminds me of some creepy medical-student humour I was told about a long time ago. Necrophilia = stab on a slab.

          But yuk!

          But wasn’t Henry VIII just such a sweetie, being so thoughtful about his wife’s last minutes, when he could just have got someone from Yellow Pages?

          • benr November 14, 2019 at 12:45 pm #

            New meaning to having a cold one?

  49. Janos Skorenzy November 12, 2019 at 1:42 am #

    The Media finally admits the reality of Groyper War.


    • Janos Skorenzy November 12, 2019 at 3:16 am #

      But how can you understand the groyper war without understanding groyper?


      • Majella November 12, 2019 at 8:13 am #

        Ah, thanks! Now I have a mental image to associate with you. Bufonid indeed!

        • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 8:31 am #

          It looks quite like Farage!

          Talking of which, there were some noteworthy Trumpkins around at Halloween.


          Probably some Boris versions as well, but Trump’s easier.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 8:45 am #

            Brilliant, especially the Screaming Trumpkin’

        • SoftStarLight November 12, 2019 at 9:29 am #

          Wow, do you also have the same hairstyle as Alba?

          • SoftStarLight November 13, 2019 at 1:52 am #

            This was overmuch and I did say this because I was on a tiny little tear this morning – sorry.

          • SoftStarLight November 13, 2019 at 1:54 am #

            Oh well, yesterday morning lol. You know what I mean.

          • GreenAlba November 13, 2019 at 7:06 am #

            We reptilia do not have hair, SSL. I know you weren’t allowed too much zoology, but you must have picked that much up.

          • Majella November 13, 2019 at 9:42 am #

            I believe she was referring me, GA. I actually sport a NUMBER 1 all over. Much less hassle.

          • benr November 14, 2019 at 1:05 pm #


            Don’t pat your own back to much as Geckos have hair!
            Granted it’s not called hair and it’s on their feet but it is hair soooooo.


  50. Iananna November 12, 2019 at 3:32 am #

    It is passing strange that a country of 300M+ with presumably 100M+ qualified (native born, non felon) cannot come up with prez candidates other than the usual suspects, 70+ millionaires.
    How did that come to pass?

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    • stelmosfire November 12, 2019 at 7:25 am #

      Money rules. Hence no new parties. I suspect that several posters on this site with common sense would make good candidates. I I nominate JHK. A new party , “The Clusterfucks” has a ring to it with a badger as a growlin’ sumbitch logo. Or maybe The” Fukin’ Numpties” for GA’s approval.with a scone and a cuppa.

      • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 7:39 am #

        We have a longstanding (since the 80s I think) political party here called the Monster Raving Loony Party. You can look it up on Wiki, St E. I don’t know where they get the money for the deposits they’ve been losing since the year dot (although if I read the article I’m sure I could find out!).

        • Majella November 12, 2019 at 8:18 am #

          The Monster Raving Loony Party is a seriously necessary part of a sound(ish) democracy.

          New Zealand has The McGillicuddy Serious Party, Australia The Sun Ripened Warm Tomato Party…and on it goes!


          • stelmosfire November 12, 2019 at 8:21 am #

            Walter B seems like a sane fella. I sorta like his thinkin’.

          • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 8:21 am #

            Absolutely, Majella. It’s a bit like hanging a rosette on a pig and presenting it for election. It makes a point. 🙂

          • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 8:24 am #

            “Walter B seems like a sane fella. I sorta like his thinkin’.”

            Well, he seems honest, St E. ‘Just’ getting that in our election candidates would be a wonderful pipedream, no matter what their differences of view.

          • stelmosfire November 12, 2019 at 8:25 am #

            My local reps are elected by a popularity contest. They are asses as far as I am concerned.

          • stelmosfire November 12, 2019 at 8:30 am #

            I would run but my feathers run the wrong way.

          • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 8:41 am #

            “My local reps are elected by a popularity contest. They are asses as far as I am concerned.”

            That’s how we got a bunch of (f’n) numpties commissioning a tram system in Edinburgh whose tribulations, years of delay and multiplication of the cost became a national joke. None of them thought it might be an idea to pay for the services of an engineering consultant who actually might know what they were talking about, to talk to the German contractor, instead of leaving it to jumped-up social workers.

            We may laugh at ‘experts’, but they can actually save you money in the long run.

            I recall reading in Tom Bowers’ excellent book about Branson that when he created Virgin Trains (which recently, but not now, ran the East Coast line from here to London) that he was asked some simple question about diesel and electric trains and had no clue what the person was talking about. Even the Woolly Jumper lets people who know what they’re doing do the actual work. Squirrelling money away in tax havens not being a skill you can transfer to anything publicly useful.

  51. SoftStarLight November 12, 2019 at 9:36 am #

    In my view, Light and Dark, Day and Night were designed by the same Creator. Both have a time and space, a rhyme and a reason. Without one, what is the other really? The opposites give meaning to each other and to everything else. This is not to say that a Path of Light should not be sought after. Clearly Life requires Light. But to think that a Path to Light does not have some darkness within it may not be a complete view of Reality IMHO. Thus Christ seeks those that are in Darkness. He said Himself He did not come to call the Righteous. With Him the Last is First. Translation: He helps you to understand all the Gray in between, and to navigate it successfully. Not all paths are the same but all do become very narrow if they arrive at the Light. Some are isolated despite themselves and their efforts. As has been noted before, the Lord chastises those He loves.

    • Majella November 12, 2019 at 11:13 am #

      Yes, and no many people know that!

      • SoftStarLight November 12, 2019 at 11:33 am #

        Do you mean, “Yes, and not many people know that!”? Or do you mean that most people already know that? Now see, right here words matter lol!

        • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 1:16 pm #

          “Do you mean, “Yes, and not many people know that!”? ”

          Perhaps Majella was reverting to the vernacular Scots English of her antecedents, SSL. That’s exactly how Billy Connolly would have said it. 🙂

          But it was probably a typo…

          • SoftStarLight November 13, 2019 at 1:40 am #

            Ah yes, I figured it was a simple typo. But a reversion to an ancestral dialect is excusable too :-).

      • Majella November 12, 2019 at 4:00 pm #

        I missed the ‘t’ on ‘not’, and intended it to be read with a Michale Caine accent.

        It’s also intended to reference FFvCS who is often spouting information he’s just learned as if ‘not many people know that’ Lincoln was a Republican and ‘who knew healthcare was so complicated?”

        • SoftStarLight November 13, 2019 at 1:43 am #

          Really? I would never have gotten that reference. That’s somewhat esoteric no?

          • Majella November 13, 2019 at 9:39 am #

            No, just failed sarcasm…

    • PeteAtomic November 12, 2019 at 11:19 am #

      fuckin’ A you’re deep on a Tuesday morning! lols 🙂 ha

      • SoftStarLight November 12, 2019 at 11:31 am #

        Yes, but not every Tuesday lol ;-).

        • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 1:38 pm #

          The spirit bloweth where it listeth… and probably when as well.

    • messianicdruid November 12, 2019 at 11:40 am #

      When we have good government after eons of bad government, we will appreciate it.

      • SoftStarLight November 13, 2019 at 1:33 am #


    • Janos Skorenzy November 12, 2019 at 12:39 pm #

      Light or God IS. It doesn’t depend on the darkness in any way, shape, or form. The darkness or darknesses of the various levels of manifestation, are simply the absence of light; the darker the level, the further away from the Light.

      So to the extent we are created beings, we are involved in darkness to one degree or another. Thus the Path involves looking for the glimmers and moving towards them and away from the Stygian darkness and definitely away from Darkness – or the path of those who have chosen Satan and his Angels.

      The darkness isn’t evil per se, since it was created by God. It is simply his play, the wave out of the ocean that will fall back in good time. But the Darkness is Evil since it has chosen to remain separate. Most of us are in the middle: small good, small evil, small light, small life. But since you seek the Caps, you should be clear that the Goal or Sumum Bonum is not just more of the path thereto.

      Some (like you!) have said God is beyond Light as well. So in those systems, He created the Light and the Darkness together, one impossible without the other. One Good and partaking of His Being, and one bereft for the most part. Of course, He seems Dark to us being beyond Light. So in these systems, the Darkness itself becomes a symbol of God. All very confusing to the uninitiated since it conflicts with the other way of describing, but clear to those who can See. Even giving directions to the grocery store can be given in any number of ways: by the traffic lights, how many streets, the name of the streets, how long it will take, etc.

      To be alive means one will die. It seems all so evil, but it is simply the nature of manifestation. Decay is inherent in all compound things as Buddha said. So how can that be evil, though of course it is very unpleasant. Life will not die, though. We must seek Life so that when we die, we don’t Die.

      • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 1:29 pm #

        “To be alive means one will die. It seems all so evil…”

        No, it just seems so… biological.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 12, 2019 at 1:38 pm #

          So hopeless in other words. You think you are your meat body, worm food, and nothing more. Now that’s tragic. Your Green Religion offers you no salvation whatsoever. The only immortality you get is for your ashes (or whatever) to become part of a potted plant or a tree. And that will happen regardless of what you do or don’t do, sooner or later.

        • SoftStarLight November 13, 2019 at 1:32 am #

          Yes biological, ok, but surely one doesn’t say at a loved one’s euology, “Well biology took grandpa. Such are the cycles of biology.” The dead are mourned by all who loved them. To them, Death can seem to be a real Evil right? And so to the people who have passed. Why must Life be taken from them? It’s human to see the negative as Evil. Especially when it comes to issues like Life and Death.

        • GreenAlba November 13, 2019 at 7:37 am #

          Girls and boys

          I could just say ‘lighten up’.

          That would be simpler than pointing out yet again the devious and manipulative nonsense spouted by the religious when they insist that any wish to improve or maintain anything human, including most specifically our precarious habitat, must be a religion.

          For most of my green years (which equate to pretty much all my adult years), I was also religious. Only very small minds need the ‘either/or’.

          At none of the funerals of my relatives which I organised did anyone, including me, say ‘well biology took Mum/Aunt Betty’.

          But nor was any evil involved in their passing, which was entirely natural.

          I sat beside my aunt for every possible minute of the three weeks I waited while she died of a stroke. My mother had looked after her for six years while she (my aunt) deterioriated with dementia. I has stayed beside my mother’s bed, in the Stroke Unit, for the 10 days it took her to die, and I knew my mother would have been distraught to think of her sister dying on her own only weeks later, so I sat beside her too for the duration, job be damned (they were kind, in the event, regarding my dual and rather long family absence).

          Someone asked me if I minded the minister coming in to say a prayer and I said of course not. I cried more for my aunt, reduced to looking like a little dying bird, than I had even for my mother, while he said his prayer. And yet even by that time I didn’t share his belief in any of it. Ritual and poetry help people, especially if they resonate nostalgically with the beliefs of their childhood. You do not impress me when either you or Kesa affects to know about other people’s intimate lives from the high horse of your presumption.

      • Majella November 12, 2019 at 4:16 pm #

        Or there’s THIS perspective:


      • sunburstsoldier November 12, 2019 at 9:08 pm #

        “Light or God IS. It doesn’t depend on the darkness in any way, shape, or form. The darkness or darknesses of the various levels of manifestation, are simply the absence of light; the darker the level, the further away from the Light.”

        I agree Janos. Light IS. Darkness, on the other hand, exists only if we choose it to be so. We, not God, make Darkness real (or at least lend it the appearance of reality) by the choices we make in life. Yet at the same time the potential to choose Darkness must always be present for us to choose Light in its stead. In this sense we can say Darkness is an inevitable byproduct of Light. God, being Light, could not create Darkness, nor, within the finite bounds of time and space, could he prevent the potential for Darkness to be.

        • Q. Shtik November 13, 2019 at 12:48 am #

          Umm, yeah, right.

      • SoftStarLight November 13, 2019 at 12:56 am #

        You’re right. There isn’t any sense in being satisfied in making it halfway through the tunnel when more effort can get you all the way out into the Daylight, and the fresh air, and the birds chirping and all. Sometimes when its nighttime, having just a tiny little light can be a lifesaver. So much better even, is the light of Day. Its always possible to be and to do better. Thank you.

    • sunburstsoldier November 12, 2019 at 7:14 pm #

      I pretty much agree with you SSL. We need the Dark in order to CHOOSE the Light. It is through consistently choosing Light over Darkness that we advance through this world in a progressive direction. In fact it can be said the act of consistently choosing Light over Darkness is the underlying purpose of the earthly incarnation. It is how we “become ‘perfect’ as our Heavenly Father is perfect”…

      • SoftStarLight November 13, 2019 at 1:12 am #

        Yes, sort of the idea that our existence in this realm is a test or series of tests to see where our souls stand in the balances. Do you believe in reincarnation? I mean, the Eastern idea of reincarnation rather than the Western notion of resurrection. I ask because some believe our path to God may take the work of many lifetimes and I was curious what your thoughts on the matter are.

        • sunburstsoldier November 13, 2019 at 9:30 am #

          Reincarnation in the sense that we return repeatedly to the earthly existence no. Our time in this ‘vale of tears’ is but once, and serves as but the first step in a Long Journey of endless progression through spheres of ever-increasing glory and wonder. To be perfect as our Heavenly Father is perfect is attained only through a developmental process which takes age upon age to unfold. Nor do we make this Journey alone. In this vast cosmos wherein our small, seemingly insignificant planet whirls through the darkness, there are innumerable worlds with inhabitants much like ourselves, although many have attained a much higher level of evolutionary advancement. The wonders which the Father of All has in store for those who choose Light consistently over Darkness is truly beyond human imagination. I believe Jesus has words to this effect somewhere in the New Testament…

          • Majella November 14, 2019 at 1:25 am #

            Pretty succinct explanation, sbs.

            Not mention of ‘salvation’ or a necessity to believe this progression? It occurs regardless?

  52. BackRowHeckler November 12, 2019 at 10:05 am #

    Here’s an alarming development: in the Bay area, San Fran and Oakland, vagrants are setting each other’s belongings — and each other — on fire. We’re not talking about a few bums down on skid row, no, we are talking about thousands of people living rough on the streets. Apparently District Attorneys refuse to prosecute any crimes at all so they have reached a state where anything goes and civilization has came to an end. On the other hand I saw a recent interview with the San Fran mayor — a black woman– who stated things are going well in the city and any criticism is the result of racism and hatred.

    How can you argue with that assessment? Just don’t believe your own lying eyes, that’s all.


    • SoftStarLight November 12, 2019 at 11:43 am #

      Very good point Brh. Sometimes negotiations are impossible. Eventually all avenues of negotiation and discussion will be exhausted IMHO. We are already there but many people think everything is business as usual.

    • PeteAtomic November 12, 2019 at 5:30 pm #

      “vagrants are setting each other’s belongings — and each other — on fire. ”

      ..the San Fran DA won’t be prosecuting public urination, so at least they have a solution

      who needs the fire dept??

  53. BackRowHeckler November 12, 2019 at 10:28 am #

    New Englanders — and JHK right over the border — brace yourself for frigid air coming in from the arctic north the first blast of the season. Got a delivery of 250 gallons of heating oil this morning, life giving, warmth creating, oil. Without that, and shipments of natgas gas thru intercontinental pipelines, how could anybody possibly live in this north country in winter? Cut down the trees and burn them up? That would probably last about 3 days. In fact this state was effectively deforested by 1870 and trees didn’t start coming back until anthracite coal began arriving by rail from mines in Pennsylvania. Solar panels wouldn’t work to good today because it’s raining, soon to be sleeting. There is talk of creating Peoples Commissions to end use of fossil fuels by force, overriding state power, an emergency measure to save the planet. I envision mobil Commissars with armed escorts roaming rural areas in the state, kicking in aunt Jennie’s doors and shutting down oil and gas burning furnaces, shooting people who resist the reasonable and necessary ‘Climate Emergency’ measures.


    • PeteAtomic November 12, 2019 at 11:12 am #

      well you’ve nailed it there BRH. There are no real alternatives for heating our homes then the bones & detritus of the ancient dead.

      thorium nuclear reactors? maybe.. I’m all for the ‘all of the above’ approach of using all/every form of energy. but solar ain’t gonna cut it by itself.. and maybe future buildings will be outfitted with their own solar panels, windmills AND natural gas heat.. I don’t know..

    • SoftStarLight November 12, 2019 at 11:45 am #

      What you describe is literally what Little Debbie was calling for! By the way, here in good ole south Louisiana we are expecting a low temperature of 25F tonight. I am not feeling the warmth today but I am sure I am just not seeing the whole picture :-).

      • Janos Skorenzy November 12, 2019 at 12:47 pm #

        Wish I was there to groyp you and keep you warm.

        • PeteAtomic November 12, 2019 at 5:27 pm #


          is that another word for snuggle?

          forget it.. I’m not sure if I wanna know LOL

          • capt spaulding November 12, 2019 at 8:20 pm #

            Nope. If Janos said it, it means he wants to put you in a crematorium.

          • GreenAlba November 13, 2019 at 7:46 am #

            Haha, Capt S

            I thought groyp meant being groped by a gentile.

        • SoftStarLight November 13, 2019 at 2:09 am #


      • GreenAlba November 13, 2019 at 7:44 am #

        “I am not feeling the warmth today but I am sure I am just not seeing the whole picture :-).”

        The rest of the picture is that it is November.

    • sprawlcapital November 12, 2019 at 1:14 pm #

      brh–The temp did not drop quite as low as predicted last night–it was plus 2 F, not zero. Still, that was a new record low for the date.

      As I said up thread, I am so glad that I am able to light the gas burner in our furnace by simply turning up the thermostat on the wall in our dining room, rather than trying to build a fire when my fingers are so numb from cold that I am not able to pick up a match.

      • sprawlcapital November 12, 2019 at 1:24 pm #

        Reporting from the Sprawl Capital of the world, Des Moines, Iowa USA. Here every acre of sprawl development destroys an acre of the best land on earth. As the baseball player asked in the movie Field of Dreams, “Is this Heaven?” To which Kevin Costner replied, “No, it’s Iowa.”

        • BackRowHeckler November 12, 2019 at 2:45 pm #

          I did read your post upstream, SC.

          Nothing like central heat for comfort, convenience and reliability. I like the woodstove too but I wouldn’t want to depend on it.

          Its disturbing in the extreme to read your reports as to what’s happening with Iowa farmland, as you say, possibly the best farmland in the world. Once its paved over, forget about it, it’s gone. Just this week I noticed on a beautiful stretch of road along the Farmington River, in a valley with ledge on one side and pristine river on the other, which I thought was safe from entropic suburban development, they’re blasting thru the granite ledge with dynamite to make room for … what, not sure yet. McMansions, apt buildings? We’ll find out pretty soon. No matter how slow the economy is there always loans to build McMansions.


    • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 1:34 pm #

      “Without that, and shipments of natgas gas thru intercontinental pipelines, how could anybody possibly live in this north country in winter? Cut down the trees and burn them up? That would probably last about 3 days. ”

      Isn’t that what this website is basically about? Climate change or no climate change? Who will you blame when you haven’t got Greta, brh? 🙂

      • BackRowHeckler November 12, 2019 at 5:00 pm #

        I’ve thought about that GA.

        Greta doesn’t mean much, and she will soon fade. (At some point we’ll learn who backed her, promoted her, what the agenda was etc)

        The difference between what JHK was saying in Too Much Magic and TLE, and the message we are getting from Climate Strike and Greta Thornburg seems to be … the latter is indicating an easy transition can be made from a petroleum based economy, to an economy that is ‘carbon free’, just pull the plug from the coal fire powered plant and plug into a bank of windmills, and it will be a seamless transition, we will carry on our merry way. Jim says no, when the oil and natgas stop flowing there will be catastrophic human dislocation, these commodities can never be replaced in a way to carry on ‘the project of civilization’ as we have known it.

        You are not going to run a city like Chicago or Cleveland on ‘renewables’. If you tried the result would be a huge die off and social and economic collapse. By not recognizing that fact I believe climateprotesters in the streets of London and NY are being dishonest and misleading the general public. Also their agenda is not real clear but it may have something to do with creating enough hysteria to access pension funds in the US and western Europe.


        • malthuss November 12, 2019 at 5:09 pm #

          Agenda 2030.

          Smokescreen. Get people on board. I dont remember the 1930s USA but I assume many died from no heat, no medicines, etc.

          This is a similar plan to 3rd world USA and depopulate the world.
          USAs population is skyrocketing, obviously.

        • Majella November 14, 2019 at 1:26 am #

          Greta who?

          • Q. Shtik November 14, 2019 at 11:43 am #


        • GreenAlba November 14, 2019 at 10:47 am #


          You pay a lot more attention to Greta et al. than I do (and yet I can spell her surname!). Not that I wish them any harm in their endeavours, since awareness needs to be broadened.

          But I agree she/they will soon be tomorrow’s fish and chip papers, as we used to say here, before less disposable wrappings took over.

          I quite agree there are a lot of things you can’t run on renewables – and that it takes fossil fuels to create the renewables infrastructure, but it still makes sense, re both issues (AGW and coming fossil-fuel penury) to leverage the available oil that we have left to use renewables where we can.

          Look at what they do in places like Dubai. The more functions you turn over to renewables, the more oil is left for longer for those uses that are less negotiable, like people whose only alternative is oil for heating.

          Same if people like me don’t insist on a personal car when we can manage without one. It leaves more space on the roads and more fuel for those who can’t.

          • GreenAlba November 14, 2019 at 10:50 am #

            And I don’t think most of the young protesters are being intentionally dishonest about what’s possible. They’re just not as well read as we are on the nitty gritty. 🙂

            I wish the late Professor Mackay were still here. People like that who don’t deny the problem, but know the limitations are what we badly need on prime-time TV.

  54. Elrond Hubbard November 12, 2019 at 10:52 am #

    Donald Trump Jr walks out of Triggered book launch after heckling – from supporters
    Event at University of California is cut short amid anger at his refusal to take questions from the audience


    “Donald Trump Jr ventured on to the University of California’s overwhelmingly liberal Los Angeles campus on Sunday, hoping to prove what he had just argued in his book – that a hate-filled American left was hell-bent on silencing him and anyone else who supported the Trump presidency.

    “But the appearance backfired when his own supporters, diehard Make America Great Again conservatives, raised their voices most loudly in protest and ended up drowning him out barely 20 minutes into an event scheduled to last two hours.

    “The audience was angry that Trump Jr and his girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, would not take questions. The loud shouts of ‘USA! USA!’ that greeted Trump when he first appeared on the stage of a university lecture hall to promote his book Triggered: How The Left Thrives on Hate and Wants to Silence Us quickly morphed into even louder, openly hostile chants of ‘Q and A! Q and A!’

    “The 450-strong audience had just been told they would not be allowed to ask questions, ‘due to time constraints’.”

    Trump supporters rebel when it becomes clear what the ruling family actually thinks of them.

    • PeteAtomic November 12, 2019 at 11:18 am #

      As Tim Pool points out Comrade Hubbard, it’s more complicated then that:

      but whatever, use your illusions, buddy 🙂

    • SoftStarLight November 12, 2019 at 11:54 am #

      Janos already posted this. His points were more salient because he understands. You can’t understand us. His supporters are rebelling because there is no Wall and there is only more immigration and globalization. All things that he ran against. We are angry that he has given the Globalists and Zionists seats at the table and kicked his diehards and those that would have had his back on anything to the streets. I don’t care what you think about me. What have you done for me?

      • Janos Skorenzy November 12, 2019 at 12:44 pm #

        We are all Groypers now. Toads unite! Put away you frog nature and take to the Land! Then take the Land!

        • GreenAlba November 12, 2019 at 1:36 pm #

          “First we take Manhattan…”

          • Janos Skorenzy November 12, 2019 at 1:53 pm #

            I was just thinking that as I scrolled near. I’m beginning to like his music more. And you are heating up as you draw nigh unto the Fire. Even dull iron heats up and becomes like fire when near. Be careful or you’ll have a Pauline experience, losing your iron Saul nature and become even as I am.

          • capt spaulding November 12, 2019 at 8:25 pm #

            “The Bronx and Staten Island too.”

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 8:48 pm #

            Lol – Capt…you’re surely taking the piss!?!

            The first line to YOUR number is “We’ll take Manhattan…”

            While St Leonard wasn’t an NYC denizen, I’m sure he appreciated Richard Rodgers on a number of levels.

          • GreenAlba November 13, 2019 at 8:02 am #

            “Be careful or you’ll have a Pauline experience, losing your iron Saul nature and become even as I am.”

            I’ve had my Damascene* experience. It just happened that we crossed paths going in the opposite direction. You may yet follow my path, young man (that’s relative, BTW). Never presume.

            *I’ve even walked down The Street Called Straight’ a few times. 🙂

        • SoftStarLight November 13, 2019 at 2:14 am #

          Lol toads unite. I pray this is the catalyst for real change. I can’t stop daydreaming of us taking the Land!

      • Majella November 12, 2019 at 4:41 pm #

        SSL –

        I believe he thinks you’re ‘deplorable’ and he never intended to do ANYTHING for you or your cohort.

        It was a scam. He never intended to actually turn the campaign into a Presidency. It was just a huge marketing ploy, funded by the little people, to further boost his ‘brand’ and ego.

        Did you buy a MAGA hat? A MAGA tee-shirt? Attend one of his joke rallies? You must (should!) be feeling really played.

        • benr November 12, 2019 at 5:34 pm #

          No worse than any other politician before brand Trump.
          At least he put the argument into the discussions!
          Of course its arguments you hate being put into the discussion.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 6:56 pm #

            That makes no sense. Please clarify your meaning.

            Also, while you’re at it, please provide the information on Bernie’s scandalous lakefront ‘mansion’.

          • benr November 12, 2019 at 7:13 pm #

            Do your own research of course it might require you to absorb reality you would rather ignore.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 7:21 pm #

            I’ve been looking, and can’t find anything scandalous OR to do with the DNC. You seem to be implying that it was some sort of ‘pay-off’.

            So far, just a couple of Fox articles taking the piss that Bernie’s now “a millionaire” – that’s it.

            All the public information about the property indicates that it’s worth around $600K (not exactly a Hamptons or Martha’s Vineyard sort of summer house). So, if it WAS a pay-off for endorsing Hillary, then you’re right – he’s an idiot, and the backhander should have been 8 figures (God knows, she can afford it).


          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 7:23 pm #

            “…it might require you to absorb reality you would rather ignore”

            Jeez – even for you, benr, with your low standards, that is real cognitive dissonance right there.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 8:44 pm #

            …and you still haven’t explained what this gobbledygook was intended to mean:

            “At least he put the argument into the discussions!
            Of course its arguments you hate being put into the discussion.”

          • Nightowl November 13, 2019 at 9:57 am #

            Our resident cat lady is now doing to benr what I do to her every thread, even going so far as to repeatedly sub my “tumbleweeds” taunt for “crickets.”

            The cognitive dissonance is now too much, and she has deluded herself to the point where she must project her own faults onto others. But not to me, of course. No, no.

            You can end the torment, Maj. All you have to do is back up just one of your half-baked emotional outbursts.

            Just one.

          • Majella November 13, 2019 at 4:59 pm #

            “Our resident cat lady is now doing to benr what I do to her every thread, even going so far as to repeatedly sub my “tumbleweeds” taunt for “crickets.”

            What you do to me every thread? Huh? You mostly sit in the corner & toss third-person snide remarks, usually touting how much more clever you are (…than anyone else in here, for sure!)

            “The cognitive dissonance is now too much, and she has deluded herself to the point where she must project her own faults onto others. But not to me, of course. No, no.”


            “You can end the torment, Maj. All you have to do is back up just one of your half-baked emotional outbursts.

            Just one.”

            Emotional outbursts? Hmm. Deflection is always a useful tactic, I guess. Why don’t you go pick one of these ’emotional outbursts’ for me? Explain why it is ’emotional’ & an ‘outburst’

    • messianicdruid November 12, 2019 at 12:12 pm #

      Groyper questions ?

    • Janos Skorenzy November 12, 2019 at 12:52 pm #

      Kimberly Guilfoyle (sp?), his girlfriend and a veteran of the Fox Short Skirt Brigade, called the hecklers “Members of ISIS”. Talk about utter confusion. Oh well, she was never the brightest bulb on the tree though she may have worn the shortest skirt. If she’s able to snag Don JR, it will definitely be a step up for her.

      Sad. I had high hopes for Don Jr as well as Trump himself. But Jr just seems like another entitled Republican Asshole, lacking Trump’s bovine charm, street smarts and ability to put away junk food.

      • SoftStarLight November 13, 2019 at 2:22 am #

        Will Eric stay on track with Dad and Jr.? He has an opportunity to chart a new course and potentially take the mantle with the Groyper War going on. I know, a long shot, but Hope lives.

        • Majella November 14, 2019 at 1:30 am #

          Hope away….

  55. JustSaying November 12, 2019 at 11:45 am #

    Aptly put.

    Just how would this “impeachment” hold up in the Senate where they can call and cross-examine witnesses? Or do they really think they can force GGG to resign like Nixon?

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    • Majella November 12, 2019 at 4:34 pm #

      Let’s wait & see.

      If this process is the sham/hoax/travesty the RWNJ cohort purports it to be then it will surely fail and the braying Trumpsters can all celebrate their glorious defeat of ‘The Evil Forces Ranged Against Us’.

      So, embrace it! You’re looking at bragging rights for the foreseeable future!

      • benr November 12, 2019 at 5:37 pm #

        No all I see is a further destruction of how things should be when the spoiled brats don’t get their way.
        Temper tantrums, foot kicking, sky screaming, crying and all around ridiculous behavior.

        • Majella November 12, 2019 at 5:43 pm #

          Um…hard to discern who you’re actually referring to there, benr. Sure sounds like the Disaffected Deplorables at DJTJ’s “book” promotion Q&A.

          • benr November 12, 2019 at 7:17 pm #

            Further proof of your profound ignorance.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 8:37 pm #

            Pithy. And meaningless.

        • Majella November 12, 2019 at 5:50 pm #

          “.. how things should be…”.

          Entirely a matter of personal opinion. Mine is as valid as yours.

          “…the spoiled brats don’t get their way.”

          Who are these spoiled brats? I thought it was the evil, all-pervading ‘deep state’ that is running this show?

          “Temper tantrums, foot kicking, sky screaming, crying and all around ridiculous behavior.”

          This sounds like an extract from the memoirs of various ex-White House staffers, describing a typical day in the Oval Office, once the Executive Time is over.

  56. Janos Skorenzy November 12, 2019 at 1:43 pm #

    The Words of Andrew Anglin anent the Teachings of Groypism and the Teacher, Nick Fuentes, a young White Hispanic. I, Janos, endorse these Words.

    The Leader Represents the Agenda

    In this war, we’ve decided our own leader.

    The leader of the Groyper movement is someone who has shown his leadership skills already, even while he is only a lad. More importantly, he has an absolutely clear and coherent vision of what a movement should look like that you can either accept or reject, without being confused as to what we’re talking about.

    •America is for the Americans
    •White Americans and white identity are the cultural and social foundations of America
    •America is a Christian nation, and the moral values inherent in Christianity make up the core of our identity
    •Organized Jewry wields a huge amount of power in America, on every level of society, and they use their power almost entirely for the purpose of harming this country
    •Immigration should be shut down completely and immediately, and we need to start using legal means to remove nonwhites from the country, as well as boost the white birthrate
    •We need to cut all entanglements with the nation of Israel, including cutting foreign aid to them, and cutting military support for their insane Middle East domination project

    There is more, but those are the basics.

    And it’s certainly all stuff I can sign off on.

    Without a leader, anyone can go up there and say “I’m the leader of the Groypers, and here’s my plan – which is also your plan, because I’m your leader!”

    No good.

    Just to be Clear

    I am not proclaiming Nick Fuentes Eternal Aryan Fuhrer of the Fourth Reich. I am simply saying that we are in the middle of a thing right now – this war on Conservatism, Inc. – and he is the leader of that thing.

    He may or may not go on to be the leader of much bigger and better things. Time will tell. He’s only 21 years old.

    But for now, for this war we are waging against all of these establishment traitors who are trying to destroy America, Nick is the leader, and all of us – myself included – should let him lead this battle and follow his direction.

    Janos: One of their Prophets, the vicious Anti-White Noel Ignatiev, has just died. He died seeing his Vision of White Genocide beginning to come apart. How apropos and beautiful. Meanwhile our Prophets are young and full of Divine Fire.

    • PeteAtomic November 12, 2019 at 6:53 pm #

      I lose you at “organized jewry” ?

      is it like organized jewelry?

      like you wanna get the diamonds and the rubies and the emeralds segregated from each other?

      that’s what I do!


      • Janos Skorenzy November 12, 2019 at 7:19 pm #

        Yes, you people are often the jewelers. How funny is that? The Rabbis of the Talmud advise: Get into profitable work that isn’t too hard if you can. Yous too their advice to heart. And you’re good at it too. So good that you’re driving us to extinction.

        Whites are Diamonds in the Rough, in need of Eugenics to polish us up. And that is what you don’t want – equals.

      • malthuss November 12, 2019 at 10:45 pm #

        DNA, okay? Cellular org

    • SoftStarLight November 13, 2019 at 2:34 am #

      This is so exciting!!!! Everything we have dreamed of in a political platform. Maybe the death of Noel Ignatiev is a premonition of a major social/cultural change.

  57. Janos Skorenzy November 12, 2019 at 2:56 pm #

    Demonic new attack on the 2nd Amendment – going after the gun manufacturers for “reckless advertising” of the AR-15, the long rifle of today’s American Patriot.


    Imagine going after car makers for the foolish use of their products or for reckless advertising.

    • 100th Avatar November 12, 2019 at 4:17 pm #

      Remington knew what they were doing. They knew who they were courting.

      At least the hedge fund, uh.. I mean private equity venture, that now owns them did, and does.

      This is what happens when the tacit knowledge hewed over generations and centuries goes by the wayside.

      The responsibility. The respect for the product. The respect for the culture. Out the window.

      Need those earning statements. Need those sales figures. Up and up. Better return. Every quarter. Dial that marketing in. Lure that audience. Like a tight group at center-mass.

      What they like? Dew, video games, 1st person shooters? Pitch it.
      Tactical. Survival. Bug-out. Body counts.

      This ain’t the 60’s. It ain’t about hunting ducks with grandad. Idyllic magazine spreads with white tails.

      That sex don’t sell these days.

      • BackRowHeckler November 12, 2019 at 4:25 pm #

        Need those earnings? Remington has been in bankruptcy for awhile.

        • 100th Avatar November 12, 2019 at 4:34 pm #

          No. They were.
          The debt.

          You do know how vulture capitalism works, no?

          • BackRowHeckler November 12, 2019 at 5:14 pm #

            How does vulture socialism work?

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 5:53 pm #

            Who took the biggest haircut? I’m guessing the Pension Fund.

          • 100th Avatar November 12, 2019 at 6:13 pm #

            Well played Majella.

            We call them institutional investors. Less sting.

          • Majella November 12, 2019 at 7:02 pm #


            No…I was referring to the actual pension find of all employees of Remington, present & past (but not yet dead).

            I assume, like so many other boondoggles (viz. Enron, Ford, GM et al), all their contributions were invested solely in Remington shares. The favorite ‘sweetmeat’ of the likes of Paul Singer.


          • 100th Avatar November 12, 2019 at 8:26 pm #

            Yes, we also call them institutional investors.

            Reuters 2018:
            Remington will exit bankruptcy as soon as this month, with some of its creditors, including JPMorgan Chase & Co(JPM.N) and Franklin Advisors, taking ownership stakes in the company in exchange for forgiving debt. Cerberus Capital Management L.P., Remington’s current private equity owner, will give up its equity in the restructuring.

            The company confirmed in a statement that its expects to emerge from bankruptcy before the end of May.

            Remington will then have a new Asset Based Loan (ABL) facility of $193 million, the proceeds of which will refinance the existing ABL facility in full.

            “I’m satisfied there’s sufficient creditor support to win confirmation,” Judge Brendan Shannon said in U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the District of Delaware. Remington filed a so-called pre-packaged bankruptcy, meaning it had largely won the support of its creditors before it filed in court.

            Remington’s creditor committee, composed of a representative for its pension and plaintiffs in cases against the company for gun injuries and deaths, supported the bankruptcy plan, an attorney for the group told Shannon.

            “I want to especially thank our dedicated employees spread across the United States that have remained focused on Remington throughout this process” said Chief Executive Anthony Acitelli.

            Reuters yesterday:
            Minneapolis-based Whitebox refinanced a $193 million loan to Remington that had been provided by seven banks, according to the sources. Many of the banks have been under pressure from their customers and some politicians to sever ties with the gun industry.

            Remington, the maker of an AR-15-style semi-automatic rifle used in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting of six adults and 20 children in 2012, filed for bankruptcy in 2017 amid declining gun sales. It exited bankruptcy last year, but still faces a lawsuit from the families of the Sandy Hook victims in the U.S. Supreme Court over its role as a gun manufacturer.

            Whitebox’s investment in Remington illustrates how some hedge funds, whose investors include pension funds, financial institutions and high-net-worth individuals, do not share the same reputational concerns as many banks. It also underscores the emergence of hedge funds as “shadow banks,” replacing traditional lenders to companies.

            “Given the baggage of these particular loans for banks that are public companies, it is an invitation to hedge funds to get in and relieve the bank of an asset they don’t really want to hold,” said Campbell Harvey, a professor finance at Duke University. “A hedge fund is a private entity, it doesn’t need to answer to public shareholders.”

            Whitebox, which was a creditor of Remington before it filed for bankruptcy, first stepped in to replace Bank of America Corp as a lender last year, according to the sources.

            The bank had vowed it would stop financing “military-style” weapons during Remington’s bankruptcy, after a former student of a Parkland, Florida, high school massacred 17 people with an assault rifle in February 2018.

            Whitebox bought Bank of America’s $43.2 million portion of a $193 million asset-backed loan to Remington at a discount to its face value, one of the sources said. That left six other banks still participating in the loan.

            Whitebox doubled down on its investment this spring, helping Remington refinance the asset-backed loan, the sources said. The loan, which Remington arranged as part of its bankruptcy last year, had a three-year maturity, and it is not clear why Remington pursued the refinancing.

          • Majella November 13, 2019 at 4:03 am #

            I’m sure you’re right, but I’m guessing that Old Joe who ran Despatch for 30 years, faithfully plugging $$ into his Remington company pension fund month after month, had NO IDEA he was an ‘institutional investor’.

            His haircut would have probably ruined him , or at least his long-anticipated retirement years. His missus probably still hops tables at the diner and Old Joe works weekends at the local Walmart, as a greeter and collecting shopping carts in the 5 sq mile parking lot, for $7.25 an hour, when he should be fishing on a Minnesota lake.

        • Majella November 13, 2019 at 4:05 am #

          .There ain’t no jutice’

    • BackRowHeckler November 12, 2019 at 4:24 pm #

      This is puzzling because the suit pertains to Adam Lanza’s use of a Remington at Sandy Hook School. Problem is, whatever way Remington marketed that gun had nothing to do with Lanza, as he did not buy it, his mother bought it, and he stole it from from his mother.

      Wait till there is an accident in Ford’s new 800 bhp Mustang, or Dodge’s new 860 hp Challenger. That should be BIG moneymaker, maybe enough to put the companies out of business.


      • 100th Avatar November 12, 2019 at 4:38 pm #

        Cars are built for driving.
        They were invented for driving.
        Evolved with driving as the goal
        From .A to .B
        Quicker, more efficiently, more bodies.
        Expressly for driving.

        Guns are built for killing.
        They were invented to kill.
        Evolved to kill
        Quicker, more efficiently, more bodies.
        Expressly for killing.

        This is a foolish argument.
        As it is a fallacy.

        • beantownbill. November 12, 2019 at 5:06 pm #

          So if I wanted to manufacture and sell my guns, why bother? Any victim, if alive, or their surviving family, could sue me. Why even bother with these machinations? Wouldn’t it just be more effective to eliminate the 2nd amendment and ban all guns? And while we’re at it, let’s call a constitutional convention and re-write the whole constitution to fit today’s world. Of course, suing doesn’t mean the plaintiff wins; that’s to be determined.

          Guns aren’t necessarily for killing. Many people just like to target practice – without any desire to shoot someone.

          • 100th Avatar November 12, 2019 at 5:13 pm #

            But guns were not created for target practice
            as cars were not invented to mow down crowds.

          • BackRowHeckler November 12, 2019 at 5:13 pm #

            True enough Bill.

            I go shooting all the time, never had the urge to shoot anybody.

            Incidentally, nice to hear from you again. Hope you are well.


          • 100th Avatar November 12, 2019 at 5:42 pm #

            This argument is also specious.
            How are you marketing the guns you are manufacturing?

            An early dawn morning riverside in the mist with grandpa, a steaming thermos, and your 870 wingmaster over your shoulder?

            A silhouetted buck on a crest in a forested wonderland?

            Or is it “mancards” being called-in, “justice for all’ with special operator looking models.. “controlling your destiny” with a tacticool call of duty vibe.

            These aren’t for hunters or bottle plinkers.

            These are for insecure people and wannabe people.

            a simple 1960’s era black rifle masquerading as a war machine.
            Cutting-edge killing.

            Marketing is allusion. It is control through suggestion.

          • 100th Avatar November 12, 2019 at 6:22 pm #

            I’ve been shooting my entire life.
            And trained.
            Also to not shoot ANYbody.
            But to stop the “threat”.
            In training curriculum it is important to dehumanize.
            Not in that way, but this way:
            You are not killing people.
            You are stopping a threat.
            Not shooting in chest, but “center mass”.

            It was shown that the humanizing of targets creates a momentary delay, a split-second hesitation. This is deadly.
            It is also instinctual.
            Most people do not want to kill other people.
            Or at least will give some pause before attempting to.
            This has to go.
            And the training changed. From targets to scenarios to nomenclature.

            Easy. You’re trained. Muscle-memory.
            To not kill people, but to shoot center mass at targets. “The targets”. The “tangos”.
            Muscle-memory erases that pause.
            Synapses trained to fire without thought.
            Once the thought is gone, you can enter realistic scenarios. Smooth is fast, and unthinking is the smoothest.

          • elysianfield November 12, 2019 at 6:53 pm #

            “I go shooting all the time, never had the urge to shoot anybody”

            Neither have I the desire to shoot anyone…but choking the shit out of someone is entirely another matter.

          • Tate November 12, 2019 at 9:30 pm #


            You’re so shmart.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 13, 2019 at 3:12 am #

            I didn’t bring up the Jews because you appeared, rather the two events coincided. It’s simply your karma to be here when this discussion occurs – and to be defeated in debate by the Non-Jews who know about their subjugation and resent it.

            Glad you are on the side of the 2nd Amendment though. It’s not going to be the Bolshevik Revolution cake walk this time. Not here.

        • BackRowHeckler November 12, 2019 at 5:09 pm #

          The suit is not about the guns themselves, but the marketing of them.

          Remington is America’s oldest company, est. 1813, and this action could put them under.

          • elysianfield November 14, 2019 at 7:22 pm #

            “The suit is not about the guns themselves, but the marketing of them. ”

            Would that that be the case, but sadly no. It is just another of 1000 cuts administered to the 2A. It is warfare by other means…the result, the hoped for result, is a damaging blow to gun ownership.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 12, 2019 at 7:13 pm #

          Life (capital L intended) contains both life and death. Traveling pertains to life but often incurs death. Killing pertains to death but often preserves life (as in the shooter’s or shooters’ nation).

          See my above epistle. You’re failing at Philosophy because you don’t love Wisdom – which is what Philosophy is. The Founders knew better – as did the Founders of Israel. And since you revere the latter, I think you know better too and are just putting on the dog as it were.

          • 100th Avatar November 12, 2019 at 8:09 pm #

            Blah Blah Blah all I see are literary pretensions cloaked in misfitting aphorisms.
            AKA I can’t make a point, or better yet, dispute one, but I can carry on in my pseudo-intellectual speak and dismiss the point and throw in some other unfounded allegations, deflect, change the argument blah blah blah ain’t I eloquent, and poetic.
            You’re just a dog humping a leg. Funny, and a bit pathetic at the same time.

          • malthuss November 12, 2019 at 10:31 pm #

            No, Fake Avatar, you project.

          • GreenAlba November 13, 2019 at 8:15 am #

            Nah, I’d say Avatar just saw the fake emperor in his birthday suit.

            Sprinkling starting caps around the place adds nothing.

            Nothing plus nothing still equals nothing.

  58. malthuss November 12, 2019 at 5:06 pm #

    Ignatiev was an American author and historian. He was best known for his work on race and social class and for his call to abolish “whiteness”. Ignatiev was the co-founder of the New Abolitionist Society and co-editor of the journal Race Traitor, which promoted the idea that “treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity”.Wikipe

  59. Tate November 12, 2019 at 5:53 pm #

    I have been trying to remove myself from this incestuous comment section( & I will eventually) but I cannot help but acknowledge talent where due, & this post from Counter-Currents Publishing by a writer calling himself ‘Nicholas Jeelvy’ is instructive of what we face as a ‘nation.’ Apologies to those of you who might be insensible to the references in the article. (Jeelvy’s essay is not designed for Boomers.) But if you really try, you might get the gist of it. Janos (& possible SSL) probably will get the gist of it without much effort. I notice that Ann Coulter has disavowed Orange Man. Good.

    “Groyping Don Jr. by Nicholas Jeelvy:

    “America First is the name of the game. An American nationalist movement has arisen to counter the conservative dog and pony show. If Orange Man chooses to side with American nationalists, he will be given an opportunity to remake the remains of the American empire into a nation. If, however, he chooses poorly, and hitches his wagon to Conservative Inc.’s train to oblivion, he will be devoured, chewed, and spat out by the swamp he set out to drain. Personnel is policy, and judging from those the Trump administration has chosen, their policy is the policy of Conservative Inc.”

    PS: I tried to respond, Elysian Fields, to your comment over the weekend thread but was prevented. Oh well, the idea of Michael Bloomberg as some kind of ‘White Knight’ is ludicrous. The term “white knight’ by the way is a verbal expression used by the Dissident Right to refer to something entirely different to JHK’s post, LOL. Yes, we really are two different nations.

    • malthuss November 12, 2019 at 10:34 pm #

      Then Michael Bloomberg as ‘Jewish Knight’ is luscious.

    • malthuss November 12, 2019 at 10:51 pm #

      Trying to go but cant stop posting, like Beans.

    • messianicdruid November 13, 2019 at 9:43 am #

      We do not need another president [ one who presides in the office of another ] we need the King.

      We will overcome.

  60. elysianfield November 12, 2019 at 7:30 pm #

    Well, ladies and germs;

    A consideration.

    Last week, Kesa was intimating that there was a better system of societal control than the police/courts/jails paradigm. I asked her for what she might consider as a suitable (workable) alternative that she could develop and defend.

    Rather than endure the (inevitable) silence, I could make an argument for another system. It is unproven. It is untoward in the minds of the average person. It is fraught with issues. BUT it might work at some level.

    The Godless Communists…the “Heathen Chinee” are implementing a system of social control by means of social scoring…ubiquitous, full coverage 24/7 observation, coupled with Artificial Intelligence, is scoring every Chinese citizen, scoring them by whatever metric the government designs, and then…people with low social scores are sanctioned. No public transportation…driving privileges revoked…credit outright denied or at exorbitant cost…ATM’s unavailable…maybe even utilities and other costs of living boosted.

    There will be, of course, police and military to further sanction those not chastened. And, consider, the Design of the paradigm might be entirely evil in it’s overall effect, real or intended…it is a grand social experiment.

    Due to the availability of current technology, this allows for a new method of maintaining civility that never before was possible…with a series of sanctions, over a long period of time, the human animal might learn to mitigate his more base instincts…and life might then become a bit more enjoyable…perhaps even a return to civility.

    OR NOT.

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    • malthuss November 12, 2019 at 10:47 pm #

      killing off millions of female babies and fetuses was not enough.
      Look at the overlords, if things continue this way.

    • stelmosfire November 13, 2019 at 10:08 am #

      Well EF, they don’t have a 2nd amendment in their Bill of Rights. Come to think of it, They probably don’t have a Bill of Rights.

  61. Majella November 12, 2019 at 8:12 pm #

    Go Tulsi.


    • Walter B November 13, 2019 at 8:52 am #

      Anyone who takes the time to listen to Major Gabbard and has any ability at all to comprehend what she says and how she says it has to be impressed. I told you guys she was good. In fact, she is so good that if she were to get elected I would bet that she would quickly get the Dealey Plaza special. I love her anyway.

      • Walter B November 13, 2019 at 8:54 am #

        Oh, I forgot to add, has anyone noticed that the loonie leftist communists in her party ignore her and promote old white men instead? Go figure that one out.

      • Nightowl November 13, 2019 at 10:20 am #

        You should look into her voting record


        Some positive things, but quite honestly, she very much looks to be a creature of the system who is looking to lure independents (with leanings in either direction) in.

        Check out her financial backing as well.


        She is not (yet) a hot prospect, so her backing is minimal, which further clouds the picture.

        • Walter B November 13, 2019 at 5:44 pm #

          Not perfection to be sure, but a marked improvement if you ask me. One of the sad realities that I see at my level is that the 30 and 40 somethings have no understanding or ability to compromise. I have always voted against our municipal tax cap bank as I despise the very concept. However, two years ago I made a deal with my “committeeman appointed to act as Mayor”, that if he would back my debt payoff plan, I would vote for his tax cap bank. It was going to pass anyway, but when I voted to pass it, he was surprised and asked why I voted for it this time. I told him I made a deal, a compromise. I do not thing he understood nor does he still. He (they) are my way or the highway fools. Nothing ever gets accomplished with that mentality, just look at DC.

          • Nightowl November 14, 2019 at 3:47 am #

            Well, we will see. I would still consider voting for her at this point, and I have not voted in years.

    • sprawlcapital November 13, 2019 at 2:32 pm #


      This is a very interesting video. I now have a much better understanding of the origin and functioning of the Petrodollar, and of US policy towards Saudi Arabia.

      We may never, as a country, be loved throughout the world, but if we want to stop being hated, we need to reform our foreign policy. That means foreign policy must be part of every political debate. Which countries do we include–and which do we exclude–among our friends?

      Because foreign policy determines the uses to which we put our military. Since the Second World War, those uses have increasingly been disasters and wars without end.

      • Walter B November 13, 2019 at 5:46 pm #

        Just as importantly, our sale of the tools of war require paying customers and the last I heard, this part of the US economy comprises 60% of the total. The MIC IS our economy. Shades of the Arms of Krupp.

        • Majella November 13, 2019 at 6:34 pm #

          Walter B

          The US Government often lends the capital to purchase the weapons, or in many cases, such as Ukraine over the last 6 plus years, it’s written off as ‘Aid’.

  62. BackRowHeckler November 12, 2019 at 8:15 pm #

    Gonna be a frosty night.

    I can’t remember it ever being this cold in November.

    I’m anxious to see if Jane Fonda — Hanoi Jane — wil be out on the Capital steps for her ‘Fire drill friday’ protest this week. An old lady like that, I hope she bundles up.


    • malthuss November 12, 2019 at 10:35 pm #

      1200 farmers lose their farms in 3 years
      2 farms a day lost in Wisconsin


      • malthuss November 12, 2019 at 10:36 pm #

        youtube comment

        Hi Jeremiah, i live in Argentina and work for IBM here, i lived in the US in the 90´s when i was a kid. Anyway here in South America shit is really going down, Brasil is bad, Chile just exploded, Bolivia´s president just resigned, and those are the 3 best economies here down south. Argentina is fuckted, but its been like that for decades, we have a yearly inflation that´s over 50%. Its sad but we are used to corrupt goverment fucking us and stealling all our wealth since i have memorie and i´m 38. I live in an RV and work from home, dont have a credit card and still live paycheck by paycheck. got no debt and looking for the way to buy silver at the very best. Keep educating man! Thanks

      • sprawlcapital November 13, 2019 at 1:34 pm #


        There has been talk here about eliminating generational wealth by means of an inheritance tax. There needs to be an exemption made in any such tax structure to allow family farms to stay in the family.

        Here in Iowa the average value of an acre of land is around $7300 There was a time, up until the 1950s, when a family farm was a quarter section, 160 acres, or less, and families made a good living. Now farms are much larger. A reasonable size farm is now a section, that is, one square mile, or 640 acres. The value of that land is about $4.6 million.

        Allowing for buildings and machinery, I would suggest a cap of $6 million on the taxable portion of farm estates. There would have to be a requirement that the heirs actually farm the land for a reasonable number of years. If they sold out, hired a manager, or let a renter farm the land, their inheritance would be taxed away. I want to see actual family farms, operated by the family, protected..

        • sprawlcapital November 13, 2019 at 1:49 pm #

          That $7300 per acre is for farmland. Developers pay much more.

        • GreenAlba November 14, 2019 at 9:40 am #


          We’ve had inheritance tax for a long time, and agricultural relief as a natural part of it.


          Simple list there of what totally escapes tax (most of it) and what doesn’t.

          And you don’t pay inheritance tax on small inheritances otherwise. When my mother died, her house and whatever was in the bank wasn’t worth enough to hit the threshold (about £250K at the time, 13 years ago). I believe it’s now £475K for a main residence, £150K less for a non-main residence.

          On the other hand, a bit of creative, but legal accounting ensures that the wealthier often don’t have to pay much of it either, through trust funds and the like, for their grandchildren’s private schooling and university education.

          I’ve always thought it was a fairly benign tax, as it’s hitting a windfall, not something the recipient worked for themselves, on the whole, even for modest inheritances.

          • GreenAlba November 14, 2019 at 1:39 pm #

            It’s not the tax that most people fear these days – it’s their equity going to a nursing home.

          • sprawlcapital November 14, 2019 at 11:28 pm #

            Thanks, Alba, for the comments on estate taxes in the UK.

            As for nursing homes, not only is the cost excessive, pray that you die before having to be placed in one.

        • benr November 14, 2019 at 1:14 pm #

          More communist bullshit stealing wealth that has already been taxed.

          Don’t get me wrong here I am not from money and the money my family had was stolen by other family members and not passed on.

          With that said how ridiculous is it for people to talk about taking money that is not theirs to take? What ever money I have left should go to my children and their children not some faceless government that will just blow it on the lazy or entitled?

          How is this even up for discussion?

          • GreenAlba November 14, 2019 at 1:46 pm #

            “How is this even up for discussion?”

            First amendment? 🙂

            Re ‘wealth that has already been taxed’, I don’t know how it works over your way, but here payments towards your pension when you’re working are given tax relief throughout your entire working life, so a lot of what pensioners are getting got a tax break already. And individuals here pay no income tax on anything under £11,500 ($14,812) pa. So for the poorer pensioners that’s a pretty good deal.

            Socialism, eh, what a nightmare.

    • stelmosfire November 13, 2019 at 10:19 am #

      Marlin, ye of short memory. Last Thanksgiving (Nov 22, 2018) The temp maxed out at 19 degrees at Bradley with a 25 knot NW wind. I sorta keep track of the weather. Believe me it was colder than the proverbial Witches Tit! Damn straight its cold today. My wife nagged me into finally firing up the ol’ steam boiler.It’s 100 years old. Cast iron and made down the road at HB Smith. I hate to burn oil.

      • BackRowHeckler November 13, 2019 at 10:28 am #

        HP Smith

        Made stuff that last 100 years, like my Winchester Model 1894 manufactured in 1912.

        Was that company in Westfield? Springfield?

        Speaking of Westfield, S&W and Savage got to be a little bit nervous about yesterday’s SC ruling regarding Remington, could affect all gun makers.


        • stelmosfire November 13, 2019 at 10:58 am #

          They were in Westfield, The foundry was shuttered and then torn down years ago. Also there was a Plainville Casting foundry in Westfield where I worked in 74-75.Now also shuttered. I was underage and used a fake ID to get a job there. I was making $4.65 an hour when the minimum wage was a $1.60. Plus we were on piece-work. 2nd shift so when I got out of school I was right into the foundry. I was Mr. moneybags compared to my friends.

          • stelmosfire November 13, 2019 at 11:07 am #

            I was grinding castings on a 24″ wheel at 1750 rpm Mostly for Sargeant door closures and Fafnir pillow blocks. We worked fast to get good piece-work rate. I still have the scars on my knuckles to show for it. Ain’t nothing like leaning into a grinding wheel turning at 120 mph with all your weight and slipping into it. I’m surprised I still have all my fingers.

          • stelmosfire November 13, 2019 at 11:09 am #

            Ah, those were the days. Child labor. Charles Dickens would be proud.

  63. malthuss November 12, 2019 at 10:50 pm #

    I saw the cover of a recent TIME Magazine. declaring,


    [Or, Peons, accept becoming turd world via influx of low IQ peoples]

    • malthuss November 12, 2019 at 11:04 pm #

      Notice no mention of Israels wall by TIMEs cover.

      • BackRowHeckler November 13, 2019 at 10:35 am #

        Malth, in the consummate novel about 3rd world migration, The Camp of the Saints’, Israel is overrun just like all other civilized countries in the Western World.

        In reality tho I can see Israel holding out longer than say, France, Belgium or Sweden.


    • Walter B November 13, 2019 at 8:42 am #

      Jihad by Hijrah, an acceptable practice by those who believe and the driving force behind the Crusades way back when:


      I have nothing against anyone who believes in anything as far as “religion” goes. I am NO-phobe of any of anyone either. It is simply a case of when an armed, violent piece of human garbage decides that I have to be made to believe as they do or die, well then it’s game on. Sometimes a human being has to stand and fight, or drop to their knees and be murdered. You choose your fate, let me choose mine. Unfortunately, a corrupt non-functioning society and government will be little to no value in this regard. The lawyers may save themselves, but it will be at our expense.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 13, 2019 at 12:52 pm #

        Hear then you from Cincinatus: Standing before the seated Romans, he picked up a small stick and then broke it. Then he picked up a dozen small sticks, tied them together and then tried to break them. He could not. Thus it is with man. The individual alone is very weak, but with his brothers, he and they are strong. This bundle of tied sticks or “fasces” is thus the symbol of Fascism. The arrows at either end symbolize looking into both the past and future, the one for inspiration and the other for preparation. In a word, Continuity.

        Is all this alien to you? Then you don’t know America as well as you think. Early America was replete with Fascist symbolism (the Eagle, the sheaves of Wheat, etc Surely you didn’t think Bible alone contains Western Civilization, did you?). It is simply part of the Wisdom of our People. In any case, your get off my lawn nationalism isn’t going to cut it against what is coming – not even if times a million. Men must act together or be cut down apart.

        • Walter B November 13, 2019 at 5:36 pm #

          I ride at the head of an entire Township Skorenzy. Can you even muster a single squad? Are you in the arena or merely a lone spectator? Tell us more of what you bring to battle brother, so that we might know what we can expect from you when the need arises, please.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 13, 2019 at 5:42 pm #

            Will they fight together or merely die alone on their lawns or in their houses?

            Early Americans had big lawns: Boston Common and Lexington Green come to mind. Don’t let the Jews teach you their version of American History – they have distorted it and us for their own purposes.

          • Walter B November 13, 2019 at 5:48 pm #

            You have avoided the question. What do you bring to the battle besides your mouth?

          • Walter B November 13, 2019 at 10:23 pm #

            OK, fine, your mouth is all you have. That can be utilized for the cause, no doubt. Gulp!

          • Janos Skorenzy November 13, 2019 at 11:28 pm #

            You have avoided the question by making it personal? As always, Why?

            Back to the original question: Do you think a man alone, even a great man, is strong against an alien group? There is a right answer here. Cincinatus had it and used the sticks to show it.

            If things go South, I’ll meet you in the Camps along with all the other dissidents and warriors. News flash: both the Muslims and the Western Deep State consider fighting with “your mouth” (mind in other words), very, very formidable and dangerous. The Russian and Chinese Communists? Ditto. The Sword without the Pen fails. And yes, the lack of respect for the Mind is one reason Patriots lost America. Too much emphasis on brawn and bravado? Absolutely. Is brawn bad? Of course not? But bravado? Yes, it tends to get in the way, and definitely tends to put brawn over brains.

            And yes, the Pen without the Sword will fail as well. I’ll give you that. But in my defense, I never said otherwise. Now back to that Lawn…..

          • benr November 14, 2019 at 1:19 pm #


            A smart man or people do not reveal what they have before conflict instead they bring full force at the start of hostilities.

      • SoftStarLight November 14, 2019 at 9:25 am #

        You have nothing against anything as far as religion goes? Then you embrace Islamic Jihad. At least that is what it would seem. In reality this cannot be true. You state that you will fight to defend yourself. Well, Islamic Jihadis believe it is their duty to eliminate non-Muslims. If you fight them you are going against their religious beliefs and not being respectful. Are do you plan on converting? This is a very frightening line of thought….

        • GreenAlba November 14, 2019 at 9:52 am #

          “If you fight them you are going against their religious beliefs and not being respectful. ”

          It is not against their religious beliefs either for Walter to fight them or for them to fight Walter. It’s all part of the narrative. Dispatching them early to enjoy their 72 virgins might be mighty respectful, from their point of view.

          It’s difficult to fight death cults – they revel in it.

          • benr November 14, 2019 at 1:19 pm #

            Indeed and they are a death cult we are in complete agreement.

          • GreenAlba November 14, 2019 at 2:11 pm #

            It’s one of the downsides we ‘fuckin’ reptiles’ have noticed about obsessive belief in an afterlife.

            They wouldn’t get nearly as many recruits for their murderous jaunts if they thought what you see is what you get. Nor for all the centuries of murderous jaunts (same for Crusader types) undertaken for no other overt reason than belief in an afterlife. In fact that was how ‘indulgences’ started – men being offered less time in ‘purgatory’ in exchange for going to fight the benighted Muslim. They could have done with a few more ‘fuckin’ reptiles’ themselves, on both sides.

            But what would I know?

  64. Janos Skorenzy November 13, 2019 at 2:58 am #

    The process of being forced out is starting again. Evil never sleeps.

    SSL: Eric is the conventional brother, lacking the charisma of Ivanka and Don Jr. Nothing will come from him unless he is struck by Lightening. He is record as calling White Nationalists, “scum”.

    Pete Moss: The Jews have hundreds of interlocking agencies and organizations that work on their behalf – local, city, state, national, and international. They are the most organized people on Earth. Needless to say, you denial of this Fact is fatuous. But more: a weapon since you can’t stand the idea of Whites having even ONE organization of their own that works FOR them and no one else. Niggardly doesn’t even begin to describe you….

    • SoftStarLight November 13, 2019 at 12:33 pm #

      Then Groyper it is for sure! I am finished with Orange Man and any hopes surrounding his clan. He is bad news like all the Zionists and non-White Whites at his table.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 13, 2019 at 5:36 pm #

        The Groyp welcomes you with a collective groyp.

        The Groyp that can be groyped is not the Eternal Groyp. Please remember to remember and forget to forget this.

      • Majella November 13, 2019 at 5:38 pm #

        SSL: “I am finished with Orange Man and any hopes surrounding his clan. ”


        But to what new ‘Wagon of Disappointment’ are you hitching your horse?

        • SoftStarLight November 14, 2019 at 9:19 am #

          Wagon of Disappointment? I am going to go toward the Light and stop looking back. I’m ready now. What about you?

  65. Janos Skorenzy November 13, 2019 at 3:04 am #

    I defeated 100 quite readily. Not because I’m necessarily smarter, but simply because the the Truth is on my side. Why is the Truth so biased? It’s not. I’m kidding. I did the opposite: I put myself on its Side. So naturally my argument is better not because I’m a better debater, but because I’m speaking the Truth and arguing for IT.

    Oh that, 100 darkly mutters, shaking his head angrily. Meanwhile Q looks for small morsels to pick up and consume. His Truth is truth, or what Ramakrishna called rice and banana knowledge.

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    • Majella November 13, 2019 at 4:08 am #

      Delusions of grandeur, much?

      • capt spaulding November 13, 2019 at 8:10 am #

        I don’t think it’s delusions of grandeur, Majella, it’s because he’s such a masterdebater.

        • SoftStarLight November 13, 2019 at 12:31 pm #

          It’s not funny and I don’t like it.

          • Majella November 13, 2019 at 4:24 pm #

            It’s hilarious.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 13, 2019 at 5:32 pm #

          You can always be trusted to get things wrong, Cap. You are a true Tard.

    • 100th Avatar November 13, 2019 at 8:34 am #

      I don’t have a dog, but have witnessed.
      When the leg is pulled away in disgust and pity but the dog keeps
      thrusting away into air into the void?
      Still intent with its endeavor. In a brief moment you witness its mind overcome its instinct. Awareness.
      Yeah. Vlad is like that.

    • Majella November 13, 2019 at 9:12 am #

      That one, though, is right out of the box…he’s taking on Finca’s role Resident Fruitcake.

      • stelmosfire November 13, 2019 at 12:08 pm #

        Speakin’ of farm in the mountains. Where the heck did that crazy Russkie go? He’s probably holed up with that crazy assed Spidy guy that was here years ago.Or maybe on the roof of the mud hut with Assoaker.

        • stelmosfire November 13, 2019 at 12:13 pm #

          At least Vlad is consistent. He’s been around here as long as I can remember and that is a coon’s age.
          And I don’t mean that in a bad way

          • Majella November 13, 2019 at 4:26 pm #

            Speaking of “where are they now?” does anyone know what Ol’ Scratch is up to?

        • BackRowHeckler November 13, 2019 at 2:34 pm #

          RIP he was part of internet group in St Pete Russia, trolls thousands of sites thru out the world. I’m thinking Jim cut him off.

          • stelmosfire November 13, 2019 at 3:29 pm #

            Perhaps you are correct. He said he was in the mountains of Central America if I recall although I may be incorrect. Fact is he totally disappeared, So WTF, I find it hard to believe that his long winded posts were total bullshit. St Pete. sum bitch. Leningrad was a Nazi killing zone during WWII.

          • Majella November 13, 2019 at 5:40 pm #


            “So WTF, I find it hard to believe that his long winded posts were total bullshit.”

            I ask out of genuine interest, what elements of his screeds (and screeds & screeds!) struck you as potentially verifiable?

          • benr November 13, 2019 at 5:58 pm #

            Or the Clintons caught up with him.

          • Majella November 13, 2019 at 6:28 pm #

            Ah. Add one to the Clinton Murder List, then?

            That trope is so old, benr. Give it up.

          • GreenAlba November 14, 2019 at 10:00 am #

            “I find it hard to believe that his long winded posts were total bullshit”

            The bits about the UK were, factually speaking, utter tripe (the monarchy, City of London and so on). Which led me to assume that an unquantifiable (by me) percentage of the rest of it might be similarly er…creative, even though his historical knowledge was far beyond mine.

  66. BackRowHeckler November 13, 2019 at 10:20 am #

    Oh great!

    As if things couldn’t get any worse in the City by the Bay …

    The newly elected DA is named Chesa Boudin, son of Weather Underground terrorists who murdered 2 police officers in the 70s. Odd thing, he used his connection to the Weathermen, as well as his service to Hugo Chavez’ revolutionary govt in Venezuela, as resume enhancers in his campaign. It was a successful strategy. But the crux of his campaign was against the SFPD. At his election party last week, there was a chorus of celebratory chants, the most prominent “F#kk the Police”.

    In a city that leads the nation in car breakins, stolen cars, vandalism, shoplifting, squalid filthy diseased streets and muggings, Boudin vows to prosecute “Corporate Landlords” and ICE agents.

    It doesn’t appear conditions will be improving in SF anytime soon, probably best to stay away. And hopefully this sort of thing can be confined to Cal and other lefty controlled, dying cities thru out the US.


    • elysianfield November 13, 2019 at 12:30 pm #

      “The newly elected DA is named Chesa Boudin, son of Weather Underground terrorists who murdered 2 police officers in the 70s.”


      Sweet Kathy B,
      Unrepentant Maiost,
      Why have you not died?

      • elysianfield November 13, 2019 at 12:31 pm #


        • elysianfield November 13, 2019 at 12:37 pm #

          Jesus, did I screw that post up…my apologies;

          Sweet Kathy Boudin
          Unrepentant Maoist,
          Why have you not died?

          It is early here on the left coast…I’m still finishing my coffee…54F outside, a promise of rain in a few days.

          • stelmosfire November 13, 2019 at 12:55 pm #

            You need the rain. . 54F that’s goddamn balmy. Saranac Lake NY at 1 PM. 16 degrees with a breeze. Going to 4 degrees this evening. Yikes. Our host better throw another log on the fire.

      • BackRowHeckler November 13, 2019 at 2:43 pm #

        Hey E.

        It gets even better. The victory chant “F#kk the Police” was led by an elected member of the SF city council.

        This chap Chesa Boudin was raised by Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn after his parents were sent to prison for murder. One thing that came out of this election is how close Ayers was with Obama thru Obama’s 8 years in office. Ayers wasn’t just some guy down the street, they were close and intimate friends. Apparently this was common knowledge but the media didn’t report it, lying, mendascious, deceitful partisan POS that they are.


        • benr November 13, 2019 at 9:00 pm #

          Yep Obama started his terrible foray into politics in Bill Ayers living room!
          Says a lot about just how stupid the people that voted for Barry really were and still are.

        • elysianfield November 13, 2019 at 11:08 pm #

          I don’t know what is going to happen in San Francisco…but I DO know that the San Francisco Police Department is an entity unto themselves. Very Old, entrenched, hidebound, a bit corrupt, not given to sucking up to transient power. I expect that if they are bitten, that they will bite back.

          The above is totally unsupported save my 50 year old memory.

          I could be wrong.

    • Uncle Bob November 13, 2019 at 10:37 pm #

      Problem is, that kind of thing is common throughout the US. Gone are normal standards of conduct, replaced by neo-Jacobin cant. Not far from here, in the People’s Republic of Ithaca, sits a mayor who thinks it wise to have government-provided places for heroin addicts to shoot up. I expect it to soon become a mini-Frisco. And they’re fanning out into the rural areas and small towns, complimenting them for their kind people and bucolic scenery, while aiming to overrun us with their fucking Bolshevism.

      I wasn’t a fan of Trump, but I also loathe the Clintons. What has tipped things for me is the Left’s attempts to eliminate due process, views opposing the Left, property rights, and the right to self-defense, all with an eye toward upending our institutions including the Constitution and the rule of law. Trump is an unlikely guardian of America, but at least he isn’t trying to turn the NKVD loose on the Americans the way the Dems are.

      • BackRowHeckler November 14, 2019 at 6:54 am #

        You said it, brother!

      • benr November 14, 2019 at 1:23 pm #

        And there is the exact reason for my rather tepid support of our dear tangerine tornado.

        Obi Wan Kenobi you are our only hope.

  67. BackRowHeckler November 13, 2019 at 11:30 am #

    Sure it’s cold out there today, but the air is crisp and clean, sky a deep, deep blue, and the sun still radiating a little warmth if you can maneuver directly underneath it. It’s a good day to be alive.


    • stelmosfire November 13, 2019 at 12:16 pm #

      Ditto! I’m stayin’ indoors and hoping the wind will take care of the leaves.

    • SoftStarLight November 13, 2019 at 12:36 pm #

      It was 23 here this morning! The coldest morning we have had since 1911. But on the flip side, the sky is definitely a beautiful crystal clear blue! Sure is cold for November.

      • GreenAlba November 14, 2019 at 10:07 am #

        It’s nippy here too, SSL.

        But we should both be grateful we’re not in Queensland, or NSW, or Yorkshire…

        …or now Venice…


        You never seem to mention events like this proactively. Are they not routinely covered in your international news? Genuine question, not being snarky.

  68. SoftStarLight November 13, 2019 at 12:45 pm #

    And I’ve always liked the name Vlad. Vlad Tepes, the national folk hero of Romania basically singlehandedly saved his native lands from being conquered by the Muslim Turks. He savagely took down his opposition. Yes, he was brutal and many say cruel. But did you know during that time, crime and chaos essentially disappeared from society. Allegedly, he had a golden chalice placed in the middle of a town square. The rule was that anyone could drink from the cup (I guess sipping behind each other wasn’t seen as gross in the middle ages?), but the cup could never leave the square. As many as 60,000 people allegedly lived in the town but no one ever took the golden chalice. So his actions created safety and security. And I am sure many many people talked smack about him then like they do today. But many Romanians still consider him to be a hero and savior of the nation.

    • stelmosfire November 13, 2019 at 1:04 pm #

      So my daughter worked with a Romanian gal. Can i say gal? We had a Halloween storm in 2011, Knocked out the power for 7 days. Her friend could not figure why the utilities were not underground. In her country everything was underground said she. Buried equals no tree or storm damage. Seems like a no-brainer to me. In my town they just redid a bunch of roads. put the wires on poles. Asinine.

      • stelmosfire November 13, 2019 at 1:08 pm #

        I figure P,G,&E should think about burying there high voltage lines. No wires ,no fires.Sure it would cost but there are definite benefits. I am surprised the people don’t demand it.

        • benr November 13, 2019 at 8:58 pm #

          Earthquakes make burying cable problematic.

      • SoftStarLight November 13, 2019 at 1:53 pm #

        Wow! And you would think we would be ahead of Romania in said underground utilities! No PC Points subtracted so it looks like gal is an A OK word. At least for me. Now somebody else may go off the rails if you say it….You never know!

        • GreenAlba November 14, 2019 at 10:16 am #

          You clearly don’t mean me since I have used it a few times in relation to myself. I wonder who you mean? I refer to my three student friends I still meet up with, along with myself, as The Golden Girls.

          ‘Gal’ already allows for irony, so no-one cares, I’d have thought.

          And ‘girls’ is already used ironically and informally, as in ‘girls on this side, boys on that side’, even when referring to the middle aged.

          Talking non-ironically about a 25-year-old ‘girl’ would be bizarre, in a newspaper for instance. But women go out on ‘girls’ nights’ all the time. People need to chill.

          • benr November 14, 2019 at 1:24 pm #

            People need to seriously chill out.

    • 100th Avatar November 13, 2019 at 1:41 pm #

      Vlad was exposed, repeatedly, for posting under various Avatars and aliases, but this is just plain sloppy.
      Too obvious Vlad

      • SoftStarLight November 13, 2019 at 1:48 pm #

        LOL, ok Av