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Is it so, as some wags say, that industry no longer makes money; only finance does? That’s been the operating theory for much of the West lately. Of course, that invites the question: what then is finance supposed to finance… that is, put money into? Why… industry, of course, and in the broadest sense of the word: the production of goods… goods being things that have value (that’s what’s good about them). How quaint! But most of the industry that used to be here has gone to other lands.

What about all that money (capital) flowing into technology: Facebook, Google, Amazon? Hmmmm. What does Facebook produce, besides conflict between its users? Okay, it harvests data about them to sell to advertisers. And what are the advertisers advertising? Their products. Who produces the products? Mostly those people in other lands. Facebook users, then, are increasingly not employed, at least not in the production of goods. Perhaps in services like nursing, trucking, garbage pickup, food prep, police, firemen, prison guards, government bureaucracy (is that a service or a dis-service?) and et cetera.

Anyway, those service people are being fired left-and-right now because they refuse to be coerced into taking a vaccine that was never properly tested and has many scary side-effects. By the way, as of Sunday, the “newspaper-of-record” (The New York Times) finally had to come clean, after months of whistling past the graveyard, and admit what the public already knows: mRNA vaccines are dangerous:

While we’re on the subject, what does Google produce? Supposedly, answers to questions, plus, like Facebook, it harvests information about the people who ask the questions and then sells the info, blah blah. And whutabout Amazon? Don’t they sell a lot of products? Yeah, mostly produced by those people in other lands. What Amazon really produces is a phenomenal amount of motion — trucks going hither and thither, at increasing cost now as the price of gasoline and diesel fuel shoots up. To me, that looks like a problem for Amazon’s business model. Another problem is the growing number of people without gainful employment who have little money to buy stuff from Amazon, wherever it comes from.

That last problem has been papered-over for two years by “helicopter money” from the federal government — direct payment to the people for doing nothing, producing neither goods nor services. This has been an impressive trick. The money comes from nowhere and for nothing. The trick is based on simple accounting fraud. The second law of thermodynamics, a.k.a. entropy, suggests that eventually this process will degrade the value of the money (or “money”) issued by the fraudsters.

The hand in play for the moment is the spending legislation proposed by “Joe Biden.” It would generate a whole helluva lot more helicopter money from nowhere for nothing, and would theoretically keep the game going a little bit longer — except the process will only generate more unwanted entropy, causing decay in the value of that “money” and canceling the desired effect of spreading it around. That’s called inflation. If the value of money drops hard and fast, that is called hyperinflation. It would be politically and socially devastating, and probably lead to the downfall of the government. The net effect would be a nation bankrupt at all levels and that will segue into an epic economic depression.

If the legislation doesn’t get passed, the USA will perhaps skip the hyperinflationary intermezzo and move straight into a deflationary depression, which is what you get when nobody has any money. When that happens, especially in a system with money actually based on debt-creation, debts do not get paid (mortgages, car payments, credit cards, perhaps even coupons on US Treasury bonds), and when debts are not paid, money disappears. Poof! No money! It’s a vicious cycle. The more money disappears the more money keeps disappearing. None of this bodes well for the winter ahead.

Add to that the growing breakdown in global trade operations. Even many of those goods produced in other lands aren’t making it to the docks, and the reduced flow of goods that happened to already land on the docks can’t get unloaded and delivered to its various destinations because of disruptions in the US trucking sector. To some degree, those disruptions are caused by bonehead government regulations, especially in California, where most of the stuff from Asia lands. The bonehead regulations (like, outlawing trucks more than three years old) can be thought of as typical government “dis-services.”

Now add to that the rising cost of oil, natural gas, and coal — the global economy’s primary resources — and disruptions in the industries that produce these vital resources and you’ve got another layer of disorder being introduced into the system (entropy again). For the moment, government propaganda tries to divert your attention to a possible shortage of Christmas presents as the nation’s main concern. Don’t be fooled. It’s more about total systemic economic breakdown, as in US citizens having no heat and no food. Also, no gasoline and no parts for fixing broken cars (and trucks).

Do you suppose the capital markets will keep rising as all this spins out? I would suppose that the capital markets will lose 80 to 90 percent of their value when all is said and done. The fabled “One Percent” will finally feel the pain that was previously distributed among the rest of us. Don’t make the mistake of thinking the One Percent can control the situation. They are mere Wizards of Oz, barfing into their laptops. If working-from-home wasn’t a thing, they’d be jumping out of windows on Wall Street.

It’s a grim outlook, I admit, but you could see it coming over the horizon from a thousand miles away. Where I differ from other observers is that I doubt that any sort of extreme government surveillance state can be imposed on the public under these conditions. The people will be too pissed-off and, anyway, the current regime will be broke and out of mojo — possibly to the degree that it has to be shoved aside. “Let’s Go Brandon” is serious business. It’s the end of something.

In the background lurks this virus thing, and the insane vaccination program it prompted. We know that people have been harmed by the vaccinations, but not how many people altogether will be affected moving forward. The possibility, though, is for a nation both broke and sick struggling to get through a dark passage of history. Stay nimble, stay local, stay reality-based, be helpful, be honest, be brave, and be kind to each other. We’ll get through it.

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1,553 Responses to “Chilling Bigly”

  1. Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 9:50 am #

    The *Biden regime wants to crash our entire financial system.

    • malthuss November 1, 2021 at 9:52 am #

      why the *?

      • Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 9:58 am #

        It isn’t Joe Biden making the decisions.

        When he is allowed to do his own thing, he makes Mussolini jokes in Rome.

        • Walter B November 1, 2021 at 10:32 am #

          Clearly Jerky Joe is lucky if he can continue to control his basic bodily function, and the skuttlebutt out of the Vatican that he cannot even do that. Far too many American consumers have been programmed to believe only what they see on a magic screen, and only then when it comes from a source that they choose to be believable, based on their emotions of course.

          I think that everybody knows that the real rulers are hidden behind the curtain, and those of who were witness to the job they did on Jack Kennedy understand who they actually are. Names are not important because they change, the intent, however is always the same more for them, less for you, soon to become all for them and none for you.

          Those of us who grew up in the NY/NJ areas in the 50’s and 60’s remember how organized crime groups and families once battled the government and each other in the streets of our cities for profit and control. Those of us who paid attention observed the slow morphing from illegal to legal as profits earned by the illegal drug trade and the marriage of the government and the mob was consummated in 1963 after a courtship in Cuba began the romance.

          Some day if I get the time I would like to find the place where Allen Dulles is entombed so that I pay him a visit and water the flowers on his grave with a few recycled Narragansett’s, damn his eyes!

          • Troy Skaggs November 1, 2021 at 11:25 am #

            What remains of Dulles corporeal reality can be visited at Green Mount Cemetary, Baltimore, Maryland. Unfortunately, his spiritual presence is breathing quite successfully within the body politic. I pray for the day when this sickness meets it’s just conclusion.

          • oswegatchie November 1, 2021 at 2:24 pm #

            They still make that brew? I remember it coming in a black crate with a case in it back in the late 70’s in upstate NY. The crate was refundable. $4.99.

          • oswegatchie November 1, 2021 at 2:28 pm #

            That 4.99 was for the beer. I think the crate was actually more valuable.

          • BackRowHeckler November 1, 2021 at 3:55 pm #

            “Hi Neighbor, Have a ‘Gansett”

            Official beer of the Boston Red Sox back in the Jimmy Foxx/Ted William’s days.

          • Walter B November 1, 2021 at 5:40 pm #

            Yes it is produced at one of the nation’s oldest breweries, it is the beer of Captain Quint, and it sells for $5.99 for a 16 ounce six-pack. Since I am not awarded any special accolades or prizes for spending more on future bladder discharges, it’s my brew too! “Howdy Neighbor!”

        • Islander November 1, 2021 at 10:34 am #

          Great Corona Ausschuss session 76 has Chris Martenson (last segment) with a similar message.

          Of course Jim has been sendng this message for a long time. Martenson puts his own spin on it.

          You can use scare quos to convey the unreal “Biden” presence/apparition/hologram.

        • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 11:08 am #

          Pretty sure the mulatto mafia (Soetero, Rice, Jarrett, Lynch) are relaying orders from the WEF and/or CCP with Klain and Psaki along for the ride.

          Basement Joe is just there to catch flak.

          • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 2:09 pm #

            Also what I think. I would love to see who actually runs/owns Vanguard too. They run the whole show.

          • Uncle Bob November 1, 2021 at 11:08 pm #

            “Also what I think. I would love to see who actually runs/owns Vanguard too. They run the whole show.”

            Mary, don’t forget BlackRock, whose hirelings infest Wall Street, the White House, Capitol Hill, and foreign governments. They are said to control well over half the world’s financial assets. Where they got those assets, and who owns BlackRock, is probably related to Vanguard and other financial houses.

          • malthuss November 1, 2021 at 11:44 pm #

            camel is half rican

    • malthuss November 1, 2021 at 9:53 am #

      the crash is inevitable. joe or no.

      Perhaps Joes job is to swing it so the billionaires get even richer.

      • Perimetr November 1, 2021 at 10:17 am #

        “We’ll get through it.”

        You mean some of us will get through it.

        • malthuss November 1, 2021 at 10:23 am #

          some will get thru, if you say so, margin man.

          • Perimetr November 1, 2021 at 5:53 pm #

            just taking a malthusian outlook lol

        • Alfred November 1, 2021 at 5:38 pm #

          Yeah, that’s a hard one to swallow.

          My vision of two weeks without food or energy distribution includes empty shell casings and a crushed bag of chips, with a herd of hungry zombies at the door.

          Tell me I’m wrong…

          • Bilejones November 1, 2021 at 8:16 pm #

            Those who come through the collapse best will be those who own physical assets in their own possession.

            To maintain that possession some of the physical assets will be measured in grains.

        • tresho November 1, 2021 at 6:13 pm #

          You mean some of us will get through it.
          None gets out of here alive. As always, our question remains: What do we do in the meantime?

      • chimayred November 1, 2021 at 12:29 pm #

        with what? bitcoin, shares of stock in companies that make nothing, and inflated fiat money?

    • bluedog November 1, 2021 at 10:00 am #

      If he did, it would be the one thing he could possibly do for the country that would be of any value as the casino has to come down sooner or later, how can anyone even consider this financial system as anything but a rip off of the working class to benefit the few.

      • shotho November 1, 2021 at 10:09 am #

        But, as said above the one percent won’t escape the collapse and they do not control as much or as tightly as we seem to think they do. Mr. K has written a profound comment here. I might question timelines and a vanishing dollar might be one of the few financial things left with any value (due to its scarcity), but otherwise we should pay careful attention to everything said here; especially the idea that there is no ultimate reason to despair.

        • Hereward the Woke November 1, 2021 at 10:23 am #

          Shotho: Agree. The One Percent think their nuclear proof boltholes in NZ are going to save them. They won’t. Jim’s final advice is the best way to go. Stay local, stay human, stay sane.

          • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 11:11 am #

            They’ll be lucky to make it to their private jets.

            They’ll be lucky to have avgas available for their private jets.

            They’ll be lucky their jets were properly maintained after the competent mechanics are retired, fired, or dead from forced jabs.

          • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 11:54 am #

            Rumor has that the Elite can access a very big hidey-hole from the Denver airport. So if they can make it there in their private jets, they are home free.

            I suspect keeping those jets in good repair and fueled up would be a high priority right about now.

          • chimayred November 1, 2021 at 12:32 pm #

            Are you from NZ? I’m not. But I spent 6 mo there. NZ is a woke nation; the last people with balls there have recently been forced to give up their AR15’s and the only ones with balls are the All Blacks and they’re being woke.

            NZ doesn’t allow anyone to use it as a bolthole. It’s ridiculously difficult to get residency or citizenship for most people. I’m sure you can buy a place there and camp out, but if I remember correctly you can’t stay there indefinitely. Believe me, I’ve tried. Now I’m sure a couple billionaires making timely bribes may slip through, but at least one has tried that and been rousted.

            Their boltholes are in the Berkshires, Bozeman, Martha’s Vineyard, etc. Plus they think they’re above it all.

          • Trean November 1, 2021 at 1:41 pm #

            You can purchase residency in NZ with a $10 million NZD investment in the NZ government approved scheme. It’s exactly what many billionaires have done. They need to spend, if my memory serves me correctly, 88 days there in the first 2 years as well.
            Anyone who doesn’t think that such people have capable security staff who’s function it is to ensure secure fuel and food supplies for both aircraft and yachts is living in a cave.

          • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 1:43 pm #


            Pretty sure NZ will let you buy your way into residency and citizenship.

            As ’80s WWF stalwart The Million Dollar Man always said,

            “Everybody’s got a PRICE!”

          • oswegatchie November 1, 2021 at 2:33 pm #

            Is it possible some of the not-yet-retired competent mechanics may suddenly become selectively incompetent, at least temporarily?

          • tresho November 1, 2021 at 6:17 pm #

            “Anyone who doesn’t think that such people have capable security staff who’s function it is…,” Roman emperors in their day had a small army of capable security staff. Now and then the staff demonstrated their capability by killing their master and appointing another. If you’re going to “think” then think it all the way through using what you know (particularly, know about human nature).

          • tresho November 1, 2021 at 6:19 pm #

            Plus they think they’re above it all. I got a big kick out of NPR earnestly telling its true believers the details about “Let’s Go Brandon”. Some are so far above it all they have little idea of what is happening around them.

        • SpeedyBB November 1, 2021 at 4:38 pm #

          Shotho – over the years I have mostly been a lurker here; learned a whole lot from all you fart smellers in the process. Oops I mean smart fellers.

          One question that continually intrigues (bothers) me: apart from its established role as a medium for the hydrocarbons business, aka the so-called “petrodollar”, is the only thing maintaining its global role as a reserve currency the painfully obvious lack of any alternative?

          Feeble attempts have been made to structure one, and while the notion of a solid gold-backed Yuan looks good on the surface, when you consider the trustworthiness and predictability of just WHO is behind said Yuan a certain spirit of CAVEAT EMPTOR comes into play. What is to stop Beijing from declaring unilaterally someday “Sure, you can have bullion for those Yuan, but the way things are at the moment you only get 20% of its face value. Take it or leave it, Buster.”

          Does the obvious absence of any alternative not inspire the naked arrogance and recklessness of the Washington mafia, in its endless and thoughtless creation of value from vapor?

          Digital currencies are (as has been amply exposed in these learned columns) basically a joke and an invitation to all manner of swindle and fraud. Or paralysis and breakdown. I try to puzzle this matter out, as an interested observer, watching those who detest Uncle Sam and his lethal expeditions around the globe continue to buy and sell in greenbacks.

          Am I missing something here? We all seem to be in agreement that it will come to tears sooner than later, but as long as humans do business, some sort of medium will be necessary. I can’t see the Swiss saying “We’ll swap you four million cuckoo clocks and ten tons of our finest cheese for that tanker of crude”.

          • Paula D November 1, 2021 at 5:04 pm #

            I think you’re right. They are smug in their arrogance of having the world’s reserve currency “What else you gonna do, sucker?”
            The US also control the BIS, which we can see when they slap sanctions on some uppity country and its citizens. The whole world plays along, even if it is to their detriment, like Germany is doing with North Stream.
            China is powerful enough now to move past that, for instance, buying oil from Iran even though the USA has sternly forbidden it.
            The US also controls the Mighty Wurlitzer of propaganda (h/t Frank Wisner) that allows them to cover the world with whatever “news” they want spread.
            Hence, the worldwide coverage of the evilness of China.
            We saw that when Saddam Hussein tried to sell oil in Euros and when Ghaddafi tried to sell oil in dinars.

          • tresho November 1, 2021 at 6:21 pm #

            “Am I missing something here?” Much of the gold thought to exist is imaginary and can’t actually be used for anything besides tall tales.

        • anmariwakaranai November 1, 2021 at 8:15 pm #

          No reason to despair

        • anmariwakaranai November 1, 2021 at 8:16 pm #

          Cause for hope then.

    • ThorsHammer November 1, 2021 at 1:41 pm #

      Seems that our Host has wandered into the most risky of all forms of prediction—- predictions about the future. And compounded his exposure by resorting to logic and reference to actual facts.

      Were it not for his perfect record of failure of past predictions I’d be really worried.

      Remember Y2 K!!

      • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 5:13 pm #

        His previous predictions were not wrong; they were early.

    • Phillyboy November 2, 2021 at 10:20 am #

      At the end of the day, this fiasco finishes when and only when. the lenders figure out that they will not be repaid. Now, one would think such confidence would easily wane but if you look at Japan, which has been at this game since 1989, has a debt problem that dwarfs ours and an aging population, we could be in this mess for much longer than any of the pundits think.

  2. malthuss November 1, 2021 at 9:51 am #



    And 7 billion did not die from wu flu.

    • cbeard November 1, 2021 at 12:44 pm #

      No mention of the use of Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquin, etc. on the Extra, Extra READ IT NOW.

  3. Walter B November 1, 2021 at 9:53 am #

    America and Americans appear to have place absolutely ALL of their concept of value in the worthless green paper of fiat currency at the cost of losing all of their concept of value in the things that are absolutely essential to human life such as air, waters, and food. As the fabricated supply line interruptions grow more intense, the one good thing that is going to come out of that ploy is that Americans will be forced to realize the value of food. It is a good thing that so many water buffalos out there are stocked up on the lard that will sustain them once the panties go bare, so maybe there will be a silver lining to this story as in Thinner.

    Of course, they have already limited our access to the most important item that supports human life as in AIR, with soggy facebags limiting the amount of oxygen available to the lungs while increasing the amount of CO2 being breathed but Facebaggers aren’t really smart enough to figured that out. Our EMT’s are very busy these days peeling those that pass out behind the wheel off of the guard rails, and shuttling those in “respiratory distress” down to the local ER where they can pick up a case of Crowbait Fever if they don’t watch out.

    Oh well there is a good side to the depopulation agenda you know. Inthe end there will be a lot less dimwitted assholes out here and it might very well wind up as a better, more productive place.

    • Walter B November 1, 2021 at 9:55 am #

      Wow, I really messed up on that one, but I suppose that the panties, as well as the pantries will be going bare.

      • PeteAtomic November 1, 2021 at 10:00 am #

        ha ha

        I don’t mind the panties going bare. that’s just fine to me! lol

        • Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 10:20 am #

          I thought they were going threadbare from people wearing them on their faces. I couldn’t figure out how the lard was going to help that.

          • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 10:38 am #


        • Hereward the Woke November 1, 2021 at 10:24 am #

          Ha! I think Jill Biden knows all about that one!

          • Islander November 1, 2021 at 10:37 am #

            Sniffer in Chief

        • oswegatchie November 1, 2021 at 2:55 pm #

          Do you really want to see the water buffalo remove their panties? Please rethink that Pete!

          • tresho November 1, 2021 at 6:24 pm #

            see the water buffalo remove their panties — a natural form of birth control. Instead of saying “no” just say “YUCK”

      • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 10:37 am #

        Freudian slip?

        • pranah November 1, 2021 at 11:20 am #

          Freudian panty, more like.

          • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 11:23 am #


    • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 10:39 am #

      Well said, Walter B. If, after all this, people still don’t get what to value in life, I don’t know what to tell ’em.

      But I’m sure coming times will be a pretty big wake-up call.

  4. debt November 1, 2021 at 9:54 am #

    “Predictions are hard to make. Especially about the future.”

    – Yogi Berra

    • malthuss November 1, 2021 at 9:56 am #

      only when one is not psychic.

      or does not have an insider. I was reading wiki about jim bakker and he shared a cell with larouche. he found that lydon got mail daily that had the future news and it was accurate.

  5. malthuss November 1, 2021 at 9:54 am #

    MSNBC wonders that all important topic, what is a people of color?

    Heckler and Beans, this is in Boston, the gal who is euro-arab.

    running for office.

    >The question of whether Arab Americans should identify as people of color extends to the Arab American community itself.

    Nuha E. Muntasser, who describes herself as an Muslim Arab American or Muslim Libyan American, said she cringes whenever she has to check the box for “white” instead of being given the option of identifying as North African or Middle Eastern.

    “I do not identify as white and it’s frustrating when I have to identify as that,” she said.

    The choice is all the more discouraging because many Arab Americans don’t share the same experience as white Americans, she said. That sense of otherness can be even more pronounced among Arab or Muslim American women who wear the hijab, she said.

    “People like me, we have to prove our Americanness,” said the 26-year-old, who lives in Sudbury, 45 miles west of Boston, and serves on the town’s Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Committee.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 10:25 am #

      She could identify as a former American who went back to whatever hellhole she or her parents fled, only to bring their disgusting backward headrag wearing ways ways with them. That would solve her identity issues.

      • Cactus Girl November 1, 2021 at 2:29 pm #

        Hear hear!

      • Bilejones November 1, 2021 at 8:21 pm #

        We need to give these people their own Thanksgiving day.

        It would be the day they give heartfelt thanks to White people for creating countries that are worth living in rather than their natal hellholes.

    • Islander November 1, 2021 at 10:39 am #

      If she is frustrated about proving her American-ness but wants a special box to check. These two ideas do not compute.

      Just check “white” and stop bitching.

      You have free choice here and no one is forcing to check any box at all. ASAIK.

      • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 11:13 am #

        She’s just mad she doesn’t get extra Wokemon points when she checks that box.

      • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 11:22 am #

        Imagine having an emotional breakdown over ticking a box on a form.

        Shows you how weak people have become. Those are the types who won’t be weathering the coming storm very well.

    • MisterBimmler November 1, 2021 at 10:44 am #

      I cringe when I can’t tick a box for ‘Celto-Iberian’ since ‘White’ is now a term of opprobrium.

      • Ishabaka November 1, 2021 at 11:09 am #

        As a side note – I’ve lived in several countries, and the supposedly color-blind USA is the only one where you have to indicate your race on EVERY single form you fill out. EVERY ONE.

        • butter56 November 1, 2021 at 11:43 am #

          As Teddy Roosevelt said , “if call yourself an american but you call yourself something else also, you are not really an American.”

        • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 12:03 pm #

          I totally agree, Ishabaka. Why must we check a box for race? Is it anybody’s business? They don’t ask you for your religion or sexual orientation. Nor should they.

        • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 12:09 pm #


        • SvrzoH November 1, 2021 at 12:29 pm #

          It is not unusual that momentum carried from the top post would get you: If you do not like it, leave and make sure that door…oh, wait, you’re good.

        • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 12:49 pm #

          And if you were born here, and hate everything about it, in what sense are you an American in anything but the most nominal or technical sense?

          It’s not enough.

          • tresho November 1, 2021 at 6:28 pm #

            Narcissism and arrogance taken to extremes tends to be joined toward a hatred of almost everyone else. In that sense, victims of such are not even human.

    • chimayred November 1, 2021 at 12:38 pm #

      well as we all know this stuff is BS. We’re all mutts to some degree; we owe this to Kennedy/Johnson/Nixon who decided to stratify us with imagined ethnicities, paving the way for this hyphenated balkanized nation.
      My sister (100% American, 98.5% ashkenazic jew) married a Russian. Russian russian, as in “from Russia”. Their daughter has blue eyes and blonde hair.

      Russia being in Asia, it strikes me…why can’t she put down Asian-American when she applies for college scholarships?

      My former colleague is married to a beautiful Tunisian woman, who basically looks caucasian. Tunisia being on the Mediterranean, well, all of the Mediterranean african countries have been sprinkled with European sperm and ova for millenia. Can she call herself African American?
      Similar nonsense goes on and on and on.

      • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 12:53 pm #

        The races differ profoundly. Move the populations of Haiti and Iceland to each others lands. Within a generation, the intelligent and hard working Nordic/Celts (the Vikings took Irish slaves to wife) would turn Haiti into a paradise. On the other hand, within five years the Haitian Blacks would be extinct.

        So no, it matters. Nothing matters more in fact.

      • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 1:47 pm #

        Europeans colonized North Africa for 130 years.

        There are many North Africans with a little European heritage in them.

      • UN OUT OF USA November 1, 2021 at 2:32 pm #

        Chimayred, I have friends in a similar situation. They came here from South Africa and gained citizenship over time. They’re white. When they enrolled their kids in school in California, they checked the African American box and the school went nuts. They were told they couldn’t do that! That is for blacks only. WTF?. These people are true African Americans, much more so than some born-here-in-the-USA-black who couldn’t even find Africa on a map of the world! Go figure.

      • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 2:42 pm #

        You mean the Hart-Cellar Act? Nice try.

        • malthuss November 1, 2021 at 11:47 pm #


    • abbybwood November 1, 2021 at 2:05 pm #

      I identify as Gypsy (my ancestry test said so) but there’s no “Gypsy” box for me to check.

    • Jo-G November 1, 2021 at 3:13 pm #

      Any one can check any box on those race/ethnicity questions he or she wants to. The only penalty might be is if you gain some financial advantage by doing so and even then… I looked at longitudinal data on a population of U. S. students and many of those from the mid-east or Brazil changed their check box as it suited their taste or applications for financial aide, I don’t really know their motivations for switching their race/ethnicity from form to form. Many of us have met students who applied for financial aide under multiple check boxes- hispanic for one grant, asian-american pacific islander for another, black for another. Recently their has been a box for “Multi” on some forms. Even when someone catches you obviously lying by using DNA for example or comparing multiple forms what is the penalty? At first I liked Elizabeth Warren with her concern for the average citizen and the Pocahontas stuff didn’t bother me at all- it was funny. Affirmative Action might disappear if all whites checked black or hispanic or asian.

    • Warren November 1, 2021 at 4:31 pm #

      My ex mother in law was a direct descendant of the Edmund Rice, the founder of Sudbury. If he could see it now he’d probably puke his guts out.

      • malthuss November 1, 2021 at 11:47 pm #

        is sudsbury a beer?

    • Not_GeorgeT November 2, 2021 at 3:10 am #

      Sudbury. Not a low rent district.

    • Gonga Din November 2, 2021 at 6:55 am #

      Nobody has it worse than us Scythians.

    • Amman November 4, 2021 at 4:30 am #

      She cannot go/emigrate into a foreign country and assume to be entitled. Just doesn’t make sense.

  6. PeteAtomic November 1, 2021 at 9:59 am #

    “Stay nimble, stay local, stay reality-based, be helpful, be honest, be brave, and be kind to each other. We’ll get through it.”

    Yep. Great reminder, Jim.
    Life is struggle.

    I’d also add, stay sober. You will need a clear mind. The booze & drugs aren’t your friends. They just add another layer of murky film over this already clouded reality.

    • debt November 1, 2021 at 10:12 am #

      What about my double-shot? And the accompanying boostah?

      • butter56 November 1, 2021 at 10:29 am #

        Surely, one old fashion at sunset won’t hurt anything

    • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 11:52 am #

      Great point, Pete. I have recently quit smoking weed myself.

      I ran out. I went to the Wiid store but they now segregate. No VaxPass, no entry.

      I went to order online. Password doesn’t work.

      Reset password. eMail does not arrive.

      I go another weed store (Lucid) NOD (North of Dewdney) where you can call in an order on your phone and have the product brought to you in their parking lot. “We stopped doing that 3 weeks ago,” the Big tatted guy with some sort of bone in his nose informed me.

      God’s telling me something.

      I quit alcohol in April 2020. I quit weed in October 2021.

      Those days are gone. Crutches.

      I have never been considered “nimble” but I will be slightly nimbler.

      God bless.

      • butter56 November 1, 2021 at 12:07 pm #

        You’re tougher than i am. I cant even quit pasta.

        • SvrzoH November 1, 2021 at 12:42 pm #

          Recent posts of his are tell-tell sign of withdraws mess.

          • crudgemudgeon November 1, 2021 at 9:25 pm #

            Yeah, OG been edgy lately. I remember 30 years ago when I quit getting stupid, everything and everyone passed me off.

      • elysianfield November 1, 2021 at 12:19 pm #

        “God’s telling me something.”

        Obviously, he is telling you that you are addicted to the marihuanas….


      • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 12:55 pm #

        You should have at least taken the bone in his nose as a trophy as you shouted, How dare you?

      • Night Owl November 1, 2021 at 3:40 pm #


        Do you get the sense that anyone in Canada means to do anything about the WEF Young Leader and psychopath leading you into the 4th Rei… I meain Industrial Revolution?

        From the outside, Canada seems to be only a step or two behind Australia, where they are no confiscating property and raiding the bank accounts of the “unvaxed.”

  7. NickelthroweR November 1, 2021 at 10:01 am #


    How much longer can the Amazon business model work if we are unable to maintain our delivery fleet? After all, people are waiting months for replacement parts for their cars and vehicles are in such demand that 3-year-old used vehicles are selling for more than when they were new. BTW, this is also true of farm machinery as used tractors are bringing in tens of thousands of dollars more used as they were new.

    As the system continues to break down, the final outrage will be when everyone between the ages of 18 and 40 is flogged into the fields and mines to work by hand to keep us from starving and freezing. It will have to be that way as the machine stops.

    • malthuss November 1, 2021 at 10:20 am #

      mexican slaves

      • Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 10:41 am #

        The old Wells Fargo wagons. Only they will be kind of a rickshaw.

        They already make those guys run.

      • NickelthroweR November 1, 2021 at 12:21 pm #

        We won’t get that lucky. The last time I checked, it takes quite a bit of infrastructure to manufacture a drone that can move a 30lb package and it takes a functioning electrical grid to keep such drones charged up.

        The ai race isn’t going to be won here in the USA – no chance in hell. True ai is still a decade or more away and I do not believe we have the will to make the singularity happen. I’ll believe that when we go back to the Moon.

        When the day comes that anyone under 40 is dragged into the fields to work, you can bet that the migrants will have returned home. If only we had a wall to keep them in. . . . . .

        • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 1:50 pm #


          You need commodity and specialized electronic parts from dozens of different vendors.

          You need high quality electric motors that can handle severe duty.

          You need rugged plastics to resist weather and UV.

          You need quality copper wire to minimize the electrical losses between the battery and the motors.

          Etc, etc…

    • Ishabaka November 1, 2021 at 11:11 am #

      I had to go to two stores yesterday to find D-cell batteries. D-cell batteries! And I bought the last pack in stock at the second store.
      Francis Joe Biden and Pete (“What, me worry? I’m on maternity leave!”) Buttigieg are doing a swell job.

      • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 12:17 pm #

        Buy rechargeable batteries in various sizes and a universal battery recharger, preferably one you can plug into a solar panel as well as the wall. (Who knows if the electricity will continue uninterrupted.)

        You won’t have enough power to cook food or heat the house. But you can power small electronic devices to play DVD’s, music, games, etc.

        Everyone needs diversion entertainment for the apocalypse. Maybe consider having some board games, jigsaw & crossword puzzles, dominos, cards, chess & checker sets, etc – low tech stuff that will work under any conditions.

        • Trean November 1, 2021 at 1:49 pm #

          I agree, in fact when the Covid drama kicked off I foresaw a lot of this and upped our solar capacity and added a battery bank. We also stored plenty of rechargeable batteries, chargers, food(both long term and medium term), certain vehicle spares and installed two nee 500 gal fuel storage tanks ( we use diesel). We also trebled our heating oil capacity as it was literally dirt cheap when the oil prices fell.

        • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 1:51 pm #

          Barnes and Noble have a pretty good board game section.

          They are marginally better than Amazon.

    • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 11:16 am #

      Modern techno-industrial society dies without diesel fuel and engines.

      It is known.

      Used tractors are skyrocketing in value because farmers have realized they can repair them and keep them running indefinitely without the expensive special tools and software updates from John Deere.

      I think there is a market in hacking JD’s specialized tools, but one has to be a fairly talented programmer to make a go of it.

      • Paula D November 1, 2021 at 12:01 pm #

        Farmers prefer the newer ones with the air conditioned cabs to the old ones in which they have their faces and airways choked with dust and chaff.
        But it has gotten ridiculous. I had a farmer tell me that those big ol’ harvesters cost a million dollars. The farmers can’t afford them OR fix them, so they lease them.
        And a lot of them also lease the land, which they sold off to pay debts a long time ago and now belongs to hedge or sovereign wealth funds.
        I grew organic soybeans one year and I was out in the garden trying to harvest them, scratching up my fingers, right as the farmer next door was harvesting 10 acres of GMO soybeans.
        He got done first.
        We are screwed

        • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 12:29 pm #

          That’s why 80% of the population once worked the land. Without powered machinery, growing food is damn labor intensive. Something to look forward to?

    • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 11:57 am #

      If we rely on 18 to 40 y.o. to work by hand to keep us from starving, we’re fucked!

      • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 12:33 pm #

        I know some young people who would descend into something resembling heroin withdrawal if they couldn’t text each other anymore.

        Retraining those fingers from texting to picking beans – possible but it won’t be smooth and easy.

        • NickelthroweR November 1, 2021 at 1:13 pm #

          This is why I added in “flogging”. History shows us that we have no problem drafting young people into wars that benefit them in no way. Just wait until the fuel runs out. The millennials and gen Z will be dragged kicking and screaming into the fields and mines. I’m certain that, just like with the military, the punishment for abandoning your “post” will be death. It will be the Killing Fields all over again.

          • Cactus Girl November 1, 2021 at 2:39 pm #

            I guess they’ll kill all us old folks.

  8. teddyboy46 November 1, 2021 at 10:04 am #

    What eludes many people is the the Chinese Communist Party has already conquered America. They control our education system from K-university. Our government at all levels and our military. Now they are crashing our economy. BTW with electronic voting they now control our elections.

    Trump getting elected was a classic tortoise and hare. The CCP never believed he could win against Their bought and paid for canadaite Hillary. So they waited until it was to late to stop it.

    In 2020 they were prepared no one like Trump would ever get elected again. The only way we can be saved is if the Chinese economy collapses first.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 10:16 am #

      In 2020, for some reason, President Trump was persuaded to follow the Chinese model for combating the ‘ro.

      The ventilators, the masks, telling people they had to stay inside, all that nonsense came from the CCP.

      • Hereward the Woke November 1, 2021 at 10:30 am #

        And the fool is still pushing the Jab! If elections mean anything anymore (I know, I know..), he’s not the guy to take us forward.

        • Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 10:44 am #

          When you think about it, which elected officials aren’t pushing it?

          They may say “free choice”, but there’s only one man really fighting to stop it, and even DeSantis still endorses the damn shots.

          Republicans in Florida shot down his vaccine mandate ban.

        • chimayred November 1, 2021 at 12:41 pm #

          no he’s not; he’s playing both sides; he’s telling us how he was able to get a vaccine out, which is quite an accomplishment, but knows it is controversial enough that he’s saying it shouldn’t be mandatory. Same thing I’d say if I was president. In fact, I’m saying the same thing. If Trump isn’t the guy to take us forward (and he’s not because the executive doesn’t take us forward or backward. The legislature(s), courts, bureaucracies, and woke corporations and media do). BUt Trump is the only guy in my 66 years who I felt really gave a shit about me and not business as usual.

          • Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 1:04 pm #

            He’s the one who came in with the plan to prevent just the sort of worries with the supply chain that we are seeing now.

            So many people fail to realize how much opposition he faced from even his own party.

            I really believe there was a deliberate attempt to get him to trash his whole record over the damn covid.

            Who brought on those lying liars, Birx and Fauci, and who persuaded him to keep them around? Who did not vet them, or knew what they were and hired them anyway?

            The evidence points to someone on Pence’s staff. Why was responsibility delegated to a former Homeland Security official? We were talking about a disease.

          • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 1:55 pm #

            One of the things Trump really got right was noticing our supply chain woes, especially on the defense side.

            The report he commissioned in 2017 was excellent.

            It went nowhere.

        • abbybwood November 1, 2021 at 3:13 pm #

          Trump did an interview with Judge Jeanine at Mara Lago this past weekend.

          He is still saying the jabs are wonderful but doesn’t think they should be mandated.

          He has gotten half-way in his thinking. Now he needs to sit down with some serious scientists, researchers and doctors and learn about how the jabs “work”, the damages and deaths they are causing and their potential future consequences.

          Maybe then he will start whistling a different tune.

          • Socrates-Detroit November 1, 2021 at 3:58 pm #

            “….we’ve got a vaccine coming…. it’s gonna be a great vaccine!”

            President Trump

            That’s not easy to walk back.

            But what is really difficult is that the proportion of the public that is concerned and unvaxxed is too small, and shrinking daily.

            Telling the vaxxed that they made a bad choice and took a big risk, albeit unintentionally, just can’t be said right now if you want votes.

            Perhaps in the future, if our worse fears are realized and confirmed by so much anecdotal and official data, that it’s undeniable.

            That’s one reason that the government is going all out to force as many people as possible to get vaccinated now, before so much bad news gets out they can no longer control it

          • abbybwood November 1, 2021 at 4:35 pm #

            Here is the interview:


    • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 11:20 am #

      Pretty much.

      I believe this was all discussed in the 1999 book, “Unrestricted Warfare.”

      General MacArthur was absolutely right about China.

      You would not even need to nuke them.

      A massed cruise missile strike on the Three Gorges Dam would collapse them immediately.

      • oswegatchie November 1, 2021 at 3:24 pm #

        How many factories making crappy toys, gifts, and Christmas decorations are below that 3 Gorges Dam? Please, please, think about the children Christmas morning without their Chinese presents!

        • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 5:55 pm #


          High-end estimates of the damage caused by a Three Gorges collapse peg the Chinese loss of industrial capacity in the 30-40% range.

    • workingclasshero November 1, 2021 at 12:41 pm #

      TB46 sounds like the cpc infiltrated your imagination to great effect.The cpc is more nationalist then socialist maoist and at least they fight to keep control of their own financial sysyem from the wall st rothchild drones.

    • crudgemudgeon November 1, 2021 at 9:35 pm #

      it seems that way. First Bezos buys WAPO to diss DJT. Bozos and CCP are partners. Eventually we get the CCP virus, Democrats push the mailed in illegitimate ballots, BINGO, we get China Joe. They own the factories we depend on and the people who make our laws and control our media.

  9. fattigmann November 1, 2021 at 10:06 am #

    God bless JHK.

    • anmariwakaranai November 1, 2021 at 11:50 am #


  10. neurodoc November 1, 2021 at 10:07 am #

    ‘The possibility, though, is for a nation both broke and sick struggling to get through a dark passage of history.’

    I’m reading a tome entitled ‘Medicine in the Dark Ages.’ Mainly out of pure interest but also possibly as a guide for practicing medicine without any so called ‘high tech.’ As i read it, it a rather shocking to read the background story which is one of loss of central authority control, loss of consensus ‘money,’ and loss of faith in Greek and Roman medicine (and culture), all in the context of vast numbers with illnesses, bacterial, viral and otherwise (tho they didn’t know what those things were).

    We seem to circling the drain toward Dark Age 2. And no one in charge has a clue, or even gives a shit.

    • Hereward the Woke November 1, 2021 at 10:26 am #

      Neurodoc: if it was written today, it would be titled “Darkness in the medical age”. How did the medical profession sink this low?

      • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 12:37 pm #

        People are always bad mouthing leeches. But I hear they were very effective in treating hemorrhoids.

        • Hereward the Woke November 1, 2021 at 4:33 pm #

          Hmuller: Yes, back then, leeches were Public Enema Number 1

      • chimayred November 1, 2021 at 12:49 pm #

        66 year old doc with 37 years of practice. Here’s how. Medical schools jumped on board with diversity in the 70’s. Having a diverse student body was more important than packing your class with competent overrepresented Jews and Asians. At the same time, with more women coming in (my class was half women), while they are certainly competent, many of them didn’t want to pursue the standard high energy type A private practice model. They decided after a while they wanted kids. So they enabled creation of a part time employed market, which enabled the profit motive to dominate. Throughput, turnaround, profit, shareholders, etc. Similarly, at the same time, organized medicine (not the docs; the AMA and state medical societies) in conjunction with the financial pressures from payers (medicare, Aetna, Kaiser) created a system which expected and got compliance. Both (well, all 57) genders of medical students were raised and trained in this compliant fascist (private ownership but central control) system. Hence, they don’t realize it, but their clinical decisions are decided by panels at insurance companies, their behavior AND medical decisions are governed by an alphabet soup of NGO’s; HIPAA, CMMS, FDA, EMTALA, MQSA, utilization review, case management, corporate compliance, JCAHO, etc. So, many older docs, like myself, are horrified at this, but the new compliant PC woke physician is just following orders. CDC, CNN, state medical society and FDA say it’s safe? It’s safe. No critical thinking involved.

        BTW, the comments about women ruining medicine? Didn’t come from me. They came from a female colleague and dear friend of mine who left medicine after 10 years to become a chef.

        • JohnAZ November 1, 2021 at 1:44 pm #

          Cookbook medicine, is it taught in medical school or is it a consequence of the medicine, pharm, insurance plots?

        • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 3:42 pm #

          Yeah, women did it, not the model that was created for them. Why was that model created? Because women have oh so much power and say? Since when? We can’t even keep the trannies out of our bathrooms.

        • Hereward the Woke November 1, 2021 at 4:34 pm #

          Chimayred: You realise you’re taking your life into your hands here…. 🙂 BTW, Good beer!

        • Anthea November 1, 2021 at 5:07 pm #

          Maybe we are not thinking of the same thing when you mention “the standard high energy type A private practice model.”

          The general practitioners I recall from my 1950s childhood had quite the laid-back job. They might occasionally have a full waiting room, but their days were a leisurely parade of cuts, eczema, tummy aches, ear infections, pink eye, asthma, coughs, splinter extractions, warts, bee stings, hemorrhoids, and similar minor ailments. These all had “cookbook” treatments: a couple of stitches, antibiotics, and a bandage. Perhaps a tetanus shot. Most of these illnesses or mishaps could be treated with equal or better success with “granny remedies”–if granny knew what she was doing.

          If I remember right, GPs in the old days even kept rather short hours.

          • tresho November 1, 2021 at 6:38 pm #

            in the old days collapsing from ventricular fibrillation was the same as dropping dead. Acute myocardial infarction and stroke treatment were both treated about the same as a bad case of the flu. If you were sleeping in your bed & a bat bit you, hardly anyone knew you might come with rabies. Things were so much different then.

          • anmariwakaranai November 1, 2021 at 9:29 pm #

            You forget hospital rounds,house visits, & midnight call outs.

        • Anthea November 1, 2021 at 5:22 pm #

          Most of the problems with modern medical practice can be traced to the “cookbook” medicine imposed (probably) mainly by insurance companies and the AMA and the boards of healing arts: “Our way or the highway.” Except it’s call “flowchart” medicine. More and more, even veterinarians practice “medicine” the same way.

          I think you’d be a little hard-pressed to say that women had anything to do with this. It’s just more corporatism and centralized control. And if you practice medicine any other way, the Board of Healing Arts will find a way to revoke your license.

          We use to have a very fine natural practitioner, who was also a medical doctor, in my area. He treated almost all ailments with various herbal and natural medications and treatments. He had a HUGE practice. I used to take my kids to him. One daughter was cured of psoriasis almost overnight by an herbal combination. Pink eye was treated with castor oil–or a castor-oil pack, if it was far advanced. The guy was a miracle-worker, so the Board of Healing Arts took away his license. (As a side note, women didn’t do that either.)

          The bottom line here is that medicine has gone to shit because doctors are not ALLOWED to practice medicine. Instead, they are forced by “the system” to pursue a series of worthless and often deleterious treatments that usually accomplish nothing, which is the objective.

          • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 5:58 pm #


            There is a long list of herbs and other natural supplements the FDA want to ban because they jeopardize Big Pharma profits.

        • Paula D November 1, 2021 at 7:20 pm #

          I would disagree that women wanting children forced the entire medical-industrial complex to accommodate them.
          I think it was money. If you look at higher education you will see the same thing. The ratio of administration to actual productive staff is similarly skewed and it skyrocketed from the 90s on until today.
          Also, Kaiser was organized differently than other medical practices. Kaiser doctors were treated like heretics by the AMA, back in the day, for participating in a HMO instead of individual for-profit medicine.
          Once Medicare and Medicaid were instituted, unscrupulous doctors and hospitals realized that they were cash cows that could be milked, much like the military-industrial complex, in which unscrupulous merchants of death milk the government for cost-plus WMDs.
          The government and the insurance companies fought back in the case of the medical-industrial complex, and the war of money was on, leading to massive bureaucracies on both sides.
          Eventually doctors could no longer afford the time and money needed for small-scale skirmishing and decided doctors-for-hire was the easier way to go.
          This made management even more powerful, and their decrees had to be followed by all employees.
          The protocols can now be dictated to the entire country’s medical systems, and everyone must comply, or lose that sweet, sweet Medicare money.
          And now the drug companies are using the government as their pushers. No street drug pusher ever had such a sweet deal as having the entire apparatus of the US state forcing people to take unwanted drugs.

          • MaryQueen November 3, 2021 at 10:07 pm #

            Excellently stated, Paula.

        • malthuss November 1, 2021 at 11:51 pm #

          First-there were not that many Yellows in USA in 1970.

          Second–the push was only 20-24 year olds should get in.

          Third–I was told a certain group was favored.

          women dont make use of the MD license that they got, experts should have known that from similar drop outs in PT and Nursing.

    • Loneranger November 1, 2021 at 10:30 am #

      I have, and have had, a clue for a decade. I have been a voice in the wilderness trying to inform my family and friends to prepare. And their response is…”Shut up! I don’t want to hear it!” Well, RIP, dear friends. Oh, wait…who’s that knocking at my door?

      • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 12:40 pm #

        We are told don’t be someone who says “I told you so”. But I’m not that big. After years of being mocked and ridiculed, called crazy, weird, stupid, and every name in the book… Hell Yes! I’m going to say “I told you so”. I’m entitled to at least that.

    • Islander November 1, 2021 at 11:00 am #

      Hygiene was far better in the High Middle Ages than a lot of people think, at least in towns and cities where there were communal baths, and families would go there once a week or so. I have seen old prints etc. that showed this. My source is Norbert Elias, “The History of Manners.” But I can’t cite a page number because my books are in storage.

      Here is a revisionist account of washing in the Medieval period:

      Most Westerners and esp. Americans think one needs a shower or a bathtub to stay clean and they just expect to have this amenity, and endless running hot water. I can tell you that when I was living in Munich in the 1970s in a rented room that was part of a large apartment converted to separate rooms, each room had a sink, and German students washed every day. There was one “real” bathroom, with a pay-for-hot-water meter, for a weekly bath.

      Same in London, in hundreds of thousands of bed-sits, except no full bathroom. Also, many apartments had only a kitchen sink. One went to one of the baths that were located throughout London, where one paid the bath lady for a changing room with a wooden bench and clean towels supplied.


      Hygiene took a hit in the latter Medieval period, and the Protestant reformation, as folk became more prudish and the baths, more a site for licentiousness.
      The use of “Dark Ages” is kind of misleading in a number of ways.

      • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 11:22 am #

        On the flip side, Westerners enormously overrate Muslim hygiene.

        In the restroom, they don’t use soap, they don’t use warm water, and they wipe with their left hand.

        Bathing and laundering among them are infrequent at best.

        • malthuss November 1, 2021 at 11:52 pm #


          warm wawa is useless and hot doesnt kill germs.

      • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 12:14 pm #

        What a fun read – thanks.

      • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 12:47 pm #

        I have long suspected that Jewish ritual laws requiring frequent trips to the “Mikveh” was all just a trick to get people to wash. Too bad no soap was mentioned. Maybe we’ll find those lost verses in a cave one day.

      • SvrzoH November 1, 2021 at 1:00 pm #

        I’d stayed at “Golden West” hotel, built in 1906 in San Diego downtown, in early 90-es and before the grand renovation. Small room with sink only and the bathrooms with showers “way down the hallway”. Got my drift?

        • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 5:28 pm #

          Are you saying you peed in the sink?

          • SvrzoH November 1, 2021 at 6:09 pm #

            It was one night stay and I felt more comfortable with the common sinks “down the hallway”.
            However, I am certain that it has been done multiple times in past almost 90 years of it’s existence.

        • Islander November 4, 2021 at 10:21 pm #

          “Got my drift?”

          No, actually,
          You sound like a nervous Nelly. Of course I was never in the Golden West.

          But generations of travelers have stayed in “pensions/penzione/Pensionen” etc in Europe and in genuine B&Bs in Britain (not Airbnb type thing) and made do with a sink in the room, toilet down the hall, ditto, shower/bath room (separate). People bring a robe to throw on and their bath kit to take with them. Often it is a small family business. This may all have changed in the meantime; I haven’t been traveling in Europe for a while. But it used to be SOP. The expectation of a private bathroom and the horror at the prospect of not having one and of using the same toilet or bathing room as others is kind of an American thing.

      • Night Owl November 1, 2021 at 3:44 pm #

        Interesting. I have also read that the diet of the average Medieval peasant was far more nutritious and varied than what many of us eat today.

        • malthuss November 1, 2021 at 11:53 pm #

          Tell that to the Irish, nimrod.

          • Night Owl November 2, 2021 at 3:29 am #

            “It is certainly much healthier than the diet of processed foods many of us eat today.

            ‘The meat stews (beef and mutton) with leafy vegetables (cabbage, leek) would have provided protein and fibre and important vitamins and the dairy products (butter and ‘green’ cheeses) would also have provided protein and other important nutrients.

            ‘It is certainly much healthier than the diet of processed foods many of us eat today.

            ‘The meat stews (beef and mutton) with leafy vegetables (cabbage, leek) would have provided protein and fibre and important vitamins and the dairy products (butter and ‘green’ cheeses) would also have provided protein and other important nutrients.”

            Sounds like they had more than Lucky Charms available, professor.

      • Anthea November 1, 2021 at 5:37 pm #

        In the US in the 1970s, there were still many “residential hotels,” where the shared bathroom was down the hall. I lived in a couple of them for short periods in my youth.

        You can also bathe quite effectively by washing and rinsing in a couple of gallons of warm water, using the old “pitcher and bowl” method. I’ve done this quite a few times, when the pipes were frozen. It can be viewed as almost luxurious. I’ve also bathed outdoors (at night and concealed by a lot of shrubbery) using a 50-gallon garden pool for a bathtub. This was when our town was in the process of putting in city water, and I was in the process of re-plumbing the whole house. Bathing under the stars is also quite luxurious, in its own way: scented soaps, fluffy towels, night sounds, moonlight and winking stars.

        • JTinMD November 2, 2021 at 10:08 am #

          Mom almost never took a shower or a bath, but she was very clean and smelled nice too! She said she washed every day by way of a “sponge bath.” I had always had a daily shower until I hit my 60’s. Now, like Mom, I use the sponge bath method. No lie — it’s way better!

    • JohnAZ November 1, 2021 at 1:40 pm #

      It is amazing to me that throughout human history, we have found substances that plants and animals manufacture to protect themselves helps humans cure disease. Lots of effort today trying to find newer antibiotics as the bacteria are catching up to us,

      ?? How come the same effort has not been put into virus control??

      • Anthea November 1, 2021 at 5:49 pm #

        There are quite a few herbal antivirals–as well as herbal antibiotics. I know from experience that you can cure chickenpox with echinacea, and I know of one woman who cured her shingles with it. Echinacea is also excellent for UTIs and toothaches/infections. IMHO it should be prescribed as a prophylactic against infection before and after dental work is done. You probably shouldn’t skip the dental work, but it is so effective that one can be tempted to. (“My teeth don’t hurt anymore, and the infection is gone.”) Most people using echinacea try to skimp on the dose. I know a lot of people who use echinacea for a lot of things, but they always try to skimp on the dose, so I am always having to tell them that, for any very advanced dental infection, you need to take about six capsules four times a day. They never listen.

        My point is that many highly effective herbal/natural remedies are ignored by modern medicine. Why is the kid with chickenpox untreated, when there is a cure? (Also probably true of shingles, which is the same virus.)

  11. Nigel Tufnel November 1, 2021 at 10:08 am #

    The supply chain issue was designed and is being used to lay blame for the economic collapse on the great unvaxxed. They have choreographed this thing to a T. I can’t help but admire it in a way, they seem to have thought of everything.
    About all we can do at this point is shoot for self reliance – grow our own food, make our own meds, learn primitive building methods, and self defense, bring manufacturing of actual goods.

    • Islander November 1, 2021 at 11:01 am #

      According to Whitney Webb, in her segment of the Corona Ausschuss’s Session 76, there is evidence that this whole thing was planned for at least 10 years.

      • Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 11:32 am #

        They wanted to pull it off with SARS, but that virus just petered out too quickly.

        • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 12:16 pm #

          They also didn’t have as good a propaganda apparatus in place, and I’m guessing they didn’t have the wherewithal to just print money in the trillions as they do now.

          • Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 12:30 pm #

            People weren’t getting “news” on their cell phones yet.

      • Anthea November 1, 2021 at 5:50 pm #

        For sure.

    • JohnAZ November 1, 2021 at 2:00 pm #

      In other words, retreat to the nineteenth century.

      It will be extremely painful, but the first step to resurrecting US productivity is to fire every single corporation that manufactures outside of the US, every one. Let the outcry of consumer demand bring back local manufacturing. With the Deep State in power, nationally, that would be very difficult as all their nests are feathered by globalist masters including the corporations. Destruction of the Deep State is needed before things will swing back to the US. The American public is showing, with its voting record, how far down the gimme path it really is. It does not want to have to work, it just wants to go to the store or internet to get things. Juvenile, isn’t it!!!

      No. 2 is closing the border! The entry of so many gimmes just worsens the situation.

      No. 3 is stopping the student loan program. Put half the universities out of business. Let merit count. Stop the babysitting. Remember JHKs statement in TLE that society only requires an eighth grade education, everything beyond is baby sitting. The lack of intelligence the last two generations are showing is proof positive of JHKs prediction. The higher in education we go, the dumber we get.

  12. Penelope Dreadful November 1, 2021 at 10:08 am #

    I am not sure that we will “get through it” unless that means simply “continuing to breathe.” It looks to me like big organizations, whether business or government, have to collapse if the required cure is too big a pill to swallow, metaphorically speaking. Think Sears, and Chiang Shek’s China, and Baltimore. There are too many vested interests in keeping the offshore thing going.

    • malthuss November 1, 2021 at 10:25 am #

      I am not sure that we will “get through it”

      thanks …I agree. I dont feel optimism.

      • JTinMD November 2, 2021 at 10:21 am #

        I’ve been optimistic and pessimistic in turns since about ten years ago. For the last few months, I think I would say I’m amused. Soon I’ll be frustrated and angry cuz the BULLSHIT still obtains. I just wish we would get it over with. Collapse already! After collapse, my natural pessimism should return. I despise all this namby pamby BULLSHIT!

  13. Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 10:12 am #

    I’d like to share a fiction post by someone called Ishmael. The sad part is, this is true for so many of our young men, it was bad enough before the Covid scamdemic.

    In many instances they don’t even know what hit them, they only wish it would stop, but it doesn’t, it just gets worse.

    Early January, 2020
    Jerex19 played his favorite online video game. He had to work tomorrow, sure, but who cared if he was a little tired? His job at a grocery store was bull**** anyway. He turned the volume down at 10 like he and his two roommates agreed to.

    One day he would take a big trip, but he wasn’t sure exactly where he wanted to go and didn’t have money saved up anyway. Maybe he’d get another job this summer, but for now this one was ok.


    • anmariwakaranai November 1, 2021 at 12:16 pm #

      That was something B, thnx

    • JC Penny November 1, 2021 at 7:03 pm #

      Word of caution. TG does not accept counter-argument. Fascist. Be warned.

  14. Murph November 1, 2021 at 10:13 am #

    I’m cautiously optimistic that the truth is breaking out and setting us free. As noted, “Let’s Go Brandon” may be one of several watershed moments. Meanwhile, the MSM has been forced to trickle-out and indirectly cop to previously verboten facts: Note how they slow-played the reversal on the Wuhan lab leak position, then slowly acknowledged that the vaccinated can still spread the virus, and now are creepingly admitting that the vaccines cause damage. This shows that the powers-that-be aren’t ultimately that powerful.

    And regarding vaccine damage, isn’t it odd that the first acknowledged victim group is young, mature males–the strongest and fittest humans? Logically, how could the vaccine damage that population but not be expected to harm older/weaker demographics?

    • Hereward the Woke November 1, 2021 at 10:29 am #

      Murph: I see that too. As JKH says, when even garbage like the UK Guardian and the NYT are printing the truth now and then, there is health. FFS, the BBC in Britain is even quoting the Lancet medical journal which say that jabbed and purebloods have the same viral load. Whatever next? Boris Johnson praising Ivermectin!

    • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 1:04 pm #

      Maybe he’ll change his name to Brandon. And then it will be revealed that his name was always Brandon, with Joe just as a nickname.

    • JohnAZ November 1, 2021 at 2:06 pm #

      I note that the term cardiac myopathy is used. What exactly is happening to these young men they are investigating.

      Immune system self damage

      Viral attack on the heart?

      ADE lowering of self defenses

      Coronary artery disease?

      Heart muscle deterioration?

      Just once, I wish someone would release info that means something. Could it be a cover up?

      • anmariwakaranai November 1, 2021 at 9:50 pm #

        No med expertise here but myocarditus is I believe inflamation of the heart, maybe infection. Itus means infection in latin I think. Post trauma the scarring is incurable. Thats the danger long term.

        One thing my usual sources say is, hawthorn for the heart.

        • JTinMD November 2, 2021 at 10:29 am #

          Myocarditis, also known as inflammatory cardiomyopathy, is inflammation of the heart muscle.” Wikipedia.

          The suffix, itis, means inflammation, as in arthritis.

          • anmariwakaranai November 3, 2021 at 9:59 am #

            Thnx jt

  15. Penelope Dreadful November 1, 2021 at 10:30 am #

    OH! And I wonder if we will ever get the straight poop about why Biden’s meeting with the Pope was delayed??? 🙂

    • Hereward the Woke November 1, 2021 at 10:32 am #

      PD: my guess is that Biden was off his head and bergoglio pulled the plug. After all, he’s a deep stater in a dress and doesn’t want his side being shown up for the psychopathic clowns they are by an extended senior moment from Biden.

      • Penelope Dreadful November 1, 2021 at 10:40 am #

        I have read that Biden had a “Howdy, Doody!” moment, if you know what I mean. That happens a lot with older people and I would never tease an old person, or anybody, if they had a problem like that. Particularly in public. But who knows if that is true or not.

        • Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 10:46 am #

          The thing is, if it were anyone but Biden, we’d know it wasn’t true.

        • Islander November 1, 2021 at 1:01 pm #

          What is a “Howdy Doody” moment?

          I read somewhere that the White Hose I mean House pulled the plug.

          But in any case the Pope and the WH are probably on the same side.

          Wasn’t Jill Biden actually the babysitter?

      • tresho November 1, 2021 at 6:45 pm #

        I imagine Biden asked the Pope if he really s–ts in the woods.

        • JTinMD November 2, 2021 at 10:32 am #

          How can the Pope have any credibility while hosting a drooling baby killer???

    • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 11:07 am #


      • WilbursHuman November 1, 2021 at 11:27 am #

        If they were full or not…………???

        (Couldn’t resist)

      • Penelope Dreadful November 1, 2021 at 11:33 am #

        Ouch! Good one!

    • anmariwakaranai November 1, 2021 at 12:21 pm #

      I think Biden met the guy who is going to sit on st Peters throne next.
      The peace maker. The antichrist.
      St Malachi said Bergolio would be the last pope 1000 years ago.

      • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 12:53 pm #

        He called him “Mark the Roman”. Not sure of how he fits that label.

        • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 1:06 pm #

          I think it was Peter the Roman.

          • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 5:38 pm #

            My mistake. You are correct.

            Some people say that Benedict number 16’s resignation isn’t really legal. And since he’s still alive at 94, he’s still the real Pope. So maybe Francis doesn’t count; and we haven’t seen Peter the Roman yet

            By the way Francis is the first Jesuit Pope. I’ve heard from some people who think he’s a Franciscan because of his name. Very tricky, those Jesuits.

        • anmariwakaranai November 1, 2021 at 9:53 pm #

          Peter the Roman. Bergs family emmigrated from Italy to Argentina.

          • anmariwakaranai November 1, 2021 at 9:55 pm #

            Muller, there was and is a rule, no Jesuit may ever be pope. I think that rule is Jesuit though, so it may be superceded by the Roman or Vatican curia.

          • hmuller November 2, 2021 at 10:51 am #

            I’ve heard of that rule. But there is no doubt that Pope Francis was a Jesuit. So the rule has been broken.

            Here’s some Pope trivia.

            John the19th was Pope from 19 APR 1024 until 20 OCT 1032.

            The next Pope to take the name John was John the 21st who served 08 SEP 1276 until 20 MAY 1277.

            What happened to John the 20th? Did such a Pope never exist and the Vatican historians lost count? Or was there a Pope John the 20th erased from the history books?

          • anmariwakaranai November 2, 2021 at 3:06 pm #

            Don’t know muller. I just read Malachi

      • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 1:08 pm #

        Yes, war is the natural state of Man. Anyone who raves about Universal Peace is talking about world government and the tyranny that implies. Everything you have came from our victory over the Indians. Praise the Conquerors!

  16. OldManGravel November 1, 2021 at 10:31 am #

    Love your posts, James. That said, American manufacturing is far from dead. I recruit and recently lost my job with a SaaS (software as a scam) company due to a PE baked sale/ Went back into manufacturing and it’s a breath of fresh air. I know where all the good people have been hiding since W was occupant, maybe even further back than that. We’re busy. Lots of people have had it with Big Tech and want to build something “real” (their word, not mine). I’m heartened. These folks couldn’t give a damn about pronouns, mandates, etc. If fact, they’re doing their best to work around all the snowflake bullshit. They’re serious people doing serious work. It will become apparent to all soon enough. Those who have hitched their star to the Big Tech Orgasmic Money Printing Fantasy are in for a real shock. Reversion to the mean, bitchez.

    • Hereward the Woke November 1, 2021 at 10:34 am #

      If you think US manufacturing is in trouble, try the UK. We have a finance industry that makes Wall Streets look like an Amish bank, and all we produce apart from that are postcards of the Queen and cream teas. Well, at least we got our fishing grounds back from the frogs.

      • chimayred November 1, 2021 at 12:59 pm #

        thank you for one of the most entertaining and concise posts I’ve ever read. Having been to the UK numerous times I can say it’s become more of an embarrassment to common sense than the US, as you imply. The only reason to go is history, architecture, and scenery. Oh, and Real Ale. You’ve done something right.

        • Islander November 1, 2021 at 1:13 pm #

          I love the English countryside, with all of the Bronze Age tumuli, fantastic hiking and views. Back in the day I hiked over the Downs and walked right up to and into Stone Henge. I will never forget the experience of seeing Stone Henge in the distance and approaching it on foot over the track in the Downs. Small tumuli all over the place in the fields of sheep. Slept in sleeping bags in the West Kennet Long Barrow grave. Can’t do any of that anymore, but you can still visit Amesbury, walk the Ridgeway, etc.

          One can crisscross the whole British Isles on foot on incredible walking trails.

          But now, it’s a job to even get into the country in one piece. And probably, out again. The country’s leaders have gone mad, and the UK is likely going to be in serious trouble this winter. All the wrong energy and other decisions.

          • beantownbill. November 1, 2021 at 4:48 pm #

            When I went to England, I traveled a lot by bus. I remember taking a bus into the countryside and walking to Stonehenge. Seeing it off in the distance was quite the sight. The vibe there was quite otherworldly.

            When I was walking in London I came across a woman carrying 2 big shopping bags. As I was walking by, she stopped me and asked if I, a total stranger, could carry the bags across the street for her, which I did.

            Can you ever imagine that happening today?

          • Rulo Deschamps November 1, 2021 at 5:53 pm #

            Beantown, Islander,

            I’ve only been to London a couple of times. What I remember the most about it, besides the incredible architecture and museums, is the drunken, random violence. Summer, winter, the streets after dark were dangerous, loaded with menace. Packs of lads swilling lager from cans, looking for trouble, vandalizing, throwing up and pissing in public. Very angry and frustrated. Saw many street fights, some really not “fights” really, just a pack kicking the shit out of someone unconscious on the ground.

            Had to be very careful. I was alone.

            All the European capitals have that repressed rage boiling under the surface. Even Athens! But the countryside is a different story, calmer, wiser. Volunteered at a farm in Greece for a while, and saw nothing of the sort, on the contrary, friendly, genial locals who’d be happy to share the retsina.

            Perhaps the big cities corrupt and degrade.

          • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 6:25 pm #

            Which side? The natives are enraged because they have no future since their leaders sold them out to Islam.

            The Muslims are enraged because they’re not in control yet and thus are practicing an early from of Jihad.

          • anmariwakaranai November 1, 2021 at 10:06 pm #

            Rulo, you know the Greeks poisoned their wine with pine resin to get rid of an invading army? Restina, is skata bitchez.
            But think. Maybe that pine resin can help us with something…

            And those lads were fine young cannibals, the violent ones.
            I think there were two gangs, back in the day. Maybe skas and…..help us out here Alba

        • Night Owl November 1, 2021 at 3:45 pm #

          Rochefort 10!

        • Hereward the Woke November 1, 2021 at 4:39 pm #

          Tx, Chimayred. History, architecture, scenery and Real Ale. Those are definitely the best of Britain. It’s as if we exhausted ourselves in 1940 and nothing in reserve.

          • JTinMD November 2, 2021 at 10:40 am #

            Did Rolls and Bentley move offshore? Do they still have a decent wool industry? Guinness is still there, right?

          • Night Owl November 2, 2021 at 4:37 pm #

            Rolls and Bently have been under BMW and Volkswagen AG ownership, respectively, for quite a few years now.

    • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 10:51 am #

      This is exactly what Catherine Austin Fitts was talking about in the interview I saw with her yesterday (w/Joseph Mercola). She said that people are catching on that working in tech, etc is bullshit and soul crushing and are getting creative on how to make a living. She said she new some high-level execs who quit Wall St. and started a high end cleaning company. Some do the cleaning themselves, they enjoy it more than working on Wall St.

      This is my dilemma right now, as I left my job in (barfy) education. Education is finished. It’s been destroyed.

      I’d rather work on a farm than go back to the techie land but that’s my best-paid experience. But, I am going to see how creative I can get about work going forward. Your comment is heartening in that it sounds like a lot of people are of like mind.

      • SW November 1, 2021 at 11:33 am #

        Mary — Many years ago I read a book Your Money or Your Life that lays out a plan to stop work as early in your life as possible without living in poverty — frugal, but not stingy or mean. I can’t say the authors would be overwhelmingly proud of me but it did help bring me back to reality in regards to my work and how to handle finances.
        I’m not saying you need it as much as I did, it’s just a bit of information to pass on 🙂

        • elysianfield November 1, 2021 at 12:29 pm #

          “Many years ago I read a book Your Money or Your Life that lays out a plan to stop work as early in your life as possible without living in poverty — frugal, but not stingy or mean.”

          I never read nor heard of the book, but that is what I did…retired at 39…same as my father. Spent my “retirement” on various avocations…learned to be a competent machinist, auto mechanic, and built two houses…upscale ones.

          The Saint will understand this…most firefighters are semi-retired at the job, with second and third vocations on their prodigious “off time”…I was always envious.

          • SW November 1, 2021 at 1:59 pm #

            Good for you! I mean that sincerely. My brother retired from stressful tech jobs at 57 and he and his wife moved to the country and lived on a sort-of farm. But Tom was happy and drove the local school kids to sporting events and volunteered with an organization called CASA which helps kids in the foster care system have an advocate.

            He built his own house too and loved doing it. I hope with the change that’s coming to America (probably the world) more and more people will discover talents they didn’t know they had and become machinists, home builders, mechanics and gardeners, just like you and Tom did.

          • Rulo Deschamps November 1, 2021 at 5:38 pm #

            “Rico no es el que mas tiene, sino el que menos necesita” – The rich man is not he who has the most, but he who needs the least”

        • UN OUT OF USA November 1, 2021 at 2:52 pm #

          SW, same here. I read an article once that espoused if you wanted to retire early, to focus not so much about your income during retirement, but your SPENDING. It taught me to pay off all my debts, including mortgage (took my wife and I 7 years of concentrated effort but we did it) and auto loans. Finally no debt. So then I tested how little we really needed to live on. Tried doing it for 6 months and once I was comfortable that we would be comfortable, I retired. That was 3 years ago now and it was the best decision I ever made. Life is wonderful now (just don’t jab me bro!).

          • anmariwakaranai November 3, 2021 at 12:19 pm #

            Hey Rulo, what was that Diogenes said to Alexander?

        • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 3:47 pm #

          Very helpful, and I appreciate it. I’m doing a lot of thinking and researching with regard to sustainable living and finding the right community, and I can use all the help I can get!

          • Hereward the Woke November 1, 2021 at 4:43 pm #

            It hasn’t all been bad news with the China flu hysteria. For one thing, it’s taught us how crazy and unnecessary some of our lifestyle choices were back when things were “normal”. Do we really need to go to restaurants, the cinema, on big holidays, or have that big new car? And why should we give our money to them anyway when they are either happy to enforce the stupid rules or too scared to fight? I’ll never forgive the pols for this vaxx apartheid, but it has made me realign my priorities.

          • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 6:26 pm #

            Completely agree, Hereward. I was already figuring out I didn’t need any of those things (and had already largely removed them from my life). That’s how I figured out I didn’t need the ‘city life’ any more. And then I figured that cities will be very dangerous soon. Now, I’d like to live out in the country, rather than even the suburbs, where I am.

          • Islander November 4, 2021 at 10:30 pm #

            Hereward—Well, I do enjoy going to the cinema. We have a pretty good film society here, and I appreciate being able to see lots of good stuff—foreign films, documentaries, some first-run features, “serious” animated films, also the Metropolitan Opera and the Bolshoi Ballet etc. on the big screen.

            It is important to have a few things to do to get out of the house. Not good to sit at home all the time and rely on the box for any entertainment. Even with the current covid insanity there are a few things to do around here to get out and about.

      • JohnAZ November 1, 2021 at 2:23 pm #


        High Tech IS BS.

        The reason?

        People throughout history built things, for each other. Grew things for each other. Things were done to make life more comfortable for each other.

        With High Tech, that stopped. High Tech has essentially contributed nothing to humanity. Talk on a cell phone? I could talk on a pay or home phone and for a lot less money. Use Maps? Use maps. The worst is email, that has destroyed legitimate communication and any form of etiquette between people. Last, let’s get rid of cursive writing, one of the most individual things a person possesses.

        Computers and the internet may the the advent of the AntiChrist, the times of tribulation. We are now finding out what the HighTech parasites have stolen from us.

        Ourselves, our own identities, our individuality, as we become a password to society, The mark of the beast.

        • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 3:49 pm #

          I’m a techie, and I could not agree more. I’ve been with computers since before PCs were invented, and I’m a natural with them. But I liked them when they did make life easier. They don’t any more. And I’ve ceased being amazed at any virtual reality stuff. Nature is 1000x more fascinating to me.

          I like to refer to myself now as sort of a modern day Luddite.

          Luddites were not anti-technology, they were against the misuse of it.

        • Hereward the Woke November 1, 2021 at 4:47 pm #

          Spot on, John. It’s amazing to think that we had none of this only 30 years ago. How did we survive? This struggle isn’t just about preserving liberty; it’s also about preserving what it means to be human.

        • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 6:23 pm #


          You make many good points.

          Personally, I feel that humanity surpassed the optimum level of technology 15 or 20 years ago and that much of what has happened since then has gone in some very wrong, very harmful directions.

        • tresho November 1, 2021 at 6:53 pm #

          I could talk on a pay or home phone and for a lot less money. A regular land line would cost me about 50% more than I am paying per year to Republic Wireless for cell & limited online data. Granted I still have to buy a smart phone that works on their system. I dumped my land line because 90+% of the calls I was getting were spam.

      • malthuss November 1, 2021 at 11:56 pm #


  17. stelmosfire November 1, 2021 at 10:33 am #

    Not to be antediluvian or anything, but I just picked another 10-12 lb Hen-of- Woods. Sweet Jesus that ‘shrom smells sweet. Well maybe not sweet Smells like the Earth. The world can burn for all I care. My family, (a bunch of edumactaed assholes) can’t even change the oil in their cars. I am in a suburban area but the forest is all around me. One just has to open their eyes to see the bounty.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 10:47 am #

      This has been a good season for mushrooms. Very damp.

    • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 10:52 am #

      That’s one big-ass ‘shroom!

    • Islander November 4, 2021 at 10:32 pm #

      It turns out that hen of the woods is a different fungus from chicken of the woods. The latter is also choice—not sure whether considered as choice as hen of the woods.

  18. butter56 November 1, 2021 at 10:33 am #

    It seems to me the price of gas and the chip shortage is part of the Democratic agenda. Limiting the use of gasoline and gasoline engines is part of their climate plan. After all micro chips do not need to be shipped across the pacific. You could fly a billion of them from Taiwan to Detroit on a 747.

    • stelmosfire November 1, 2021 at 10:47 am #

      747’s came out around 1970. 50 years ago. I remember gym class on the track at my Junior High school watching the big Boeing’s float through the sky. They were in development. That was right after Apollo went to the moon. ’69. We had a 12,000 ft. runway not to far away from my town. They were training 747 pilots with touch-and-goes all day long. 50 Years!! let that sink in. We still use that tech. I drive a car driven a reciprocating engine fueled by petrol. Carl Benz 1885. 136 years ago. Let that sink in.

      • stelmosfire November 1, 2021 at 10:50 am #

        Computers, meh. The realities of thermodynamics are a slap in the face to mankind’s grandeur.

      • Ishabaka November 1, 2021 at 11:15 am #

        Reverse Flynn-Effect. We could not equal those accomplishments today.

        • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 2:02 pm #

          On the civil engineering side, I doubt 2021 America could build the Mackinac Bridge.

      • Paula D November 1, 2021 at 12:09 pm #

        #metoo! I remember being in gym class and seeing this giant plane fly over. Must have been a 747.
        I stopped and stared with my mouth open, and everyone else in class stopped and stared also.
        We had never seen such a thing.
        And now Americans think they are entitled to keep flying forever. What a shock for the young’uns to have to go back to the days when flying somewhere was not a thing.

      • Paula D November 1, 2021 at 12:11 pm #

        I remember the first time my dad’s friend flew somewhere on a plane.
        We all got dressed up and went down to LA International to see him off.
        It was a big deal, just like when my aunt and cousin went to Hawaii and we all got dressed up and went to the ship to see them off.
        There was no such thing as “flying to Hawaii”. If you could afford it, (which no one else could in my circles) you took a ship

        • WilbursHuman November 1, 2021 at 1:02 pm #

          You are “tellin your Age” there lady !!!!!!

          I remember the exact same thing .

          Even got the pictures (Real ones tooo) to prove it

          • Paula D November 1, 2021 at 2:50 pm #

            Yep, I’m old and glad of it.
            I feel sorry for the young’uns. I’m guessing they won’t make it to old age.

        • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 3:54 pm #

          I remember going to the airport to pick people up, and see them off. It was a BIG deal. And so exciting.

          • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 5:50 pm #

            Last time I went to the airport I was frisked, de-belted, made shoe less, and treated like a prisoner of war. Some fat TSA guy screamed at me because my toiletries were in a zip lock gallon bag instead of a quart bag. I haven’t flown since.

            My America is gone.

          • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 6:28 pm #

            Same. I hate the airport now. I am going to assume I will never fly again, and that doesn’t disappoint me.

      • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 1:13 pm #

        But could you catch a fly with your chopsticks? Or see the rings of Saturn with your naked eye? The Japanese Pilots could – at first. Later they couldn’t even land, no need. Later still, they couldn’t even make it to the American ships to crash into them. Entropy.

        • stelmosfire November 1, 2021 at 3:15 pm #

          C’mon Vlad ,the rings of Saturn with the naked eye? I swallow some of your shit but you have gone too far. I seriously doubt that claim. I’ m calling bullshit on that one..

          • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 5:52 pm #

            Next, he’ll claim he can see Uranus.

          • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 6:27 pm #

            I doubt it too, but that’s what I heard.

        • tresho November 1, 2021 at 6:55 pm #

          Or see the rings of Saturn with your naked eye? I have found I can fit all the visible universe through the pupil of eye, so there.

          • stelmosfire November 1, 2021 at 9:18 pm #

            I have found I can fit all the visible universe through the pupil of my eye, so there.

            Yeah, that’s true.

        • anmariwakaranai November 1, 2021 at 10:49 pm #

          One of my teachers in Japan was a failed young Kami Kaze pilot in WWII. When they got word they all simultaniously crashed, he went down in the ocean and lived.
          He was not happy about it. He talked a lot, I understood less than a tenth.

      • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 2:01 pm #

        Don’t forget the Concorde.

        No, it was not perfect, but the ability to fly dozens of passengers from NYC to Paris in less than 3 hours is one of man’s all-time great feats.

        I regret not saving my money in my undergrad days to take at least one trip on that beauty.

        • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 3:55 pm #

          I remember that! What happened to it?

          • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 6:31 pm #

            It wasn’t really a money-maker, and it was hurt by the 9/11 slump and the high-profile crash in July 2000.

            Eventually, it was determined that subsonic flight was more profitable for the airlines for a variety of reasons.

            The narrow body of the Concorde severely limited space, and thus luxury, which left the extreme speed as the only real attraction of the aircraft.


          • stelmosfire November 1, 2021 at 9:23 pm #

            There is an A-380 from the UAE that flyies over my house at 38,000 ft. most days a week.headed to Dulles. UAE- 231. It stopped for a year with the “VID but it’s back now. I can’t imagine who is on that sum-bitch.

          • Bilejones November 2, 2021 at 1:17 pm #

            A lot of opposition to noise.

      • SpeedyBB November 2, 2021 at 8:34 am #


        Bertha Benz – best commercial ever

  19. Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 10:36 am #

    Quite some time ago, on this very site, the topic of gun control (I believe) was raised.

    I was sharply criticized for my spirited defense of gun owners I know, as the kind of self-reliant, caring Americans who would be the first to step up and not only offer to help, bu be able to help, in an emergency.

    It was un-PC to support the 2A.

    Well guess what? My gun-totin’ friends also know things like how to put up your vegetables, how to grow them, how to repair your own vehicles, all things that I could use help with from someone more experienced.

    Heck, I even have a kid who just learned to weld, in my circle.


    • Penelope Dreadful November 1, 2021 at 10:43 am #

      If you think about it. we live in more dangerous times than the settlers did back during the Indian Wars time. At least back then as the country moved West, so did the potential for a Hostile Indian attack on say, New York City or Baltimore. Now however, there are thousands of savages in those cities, and they have guns, firewater, and fancy tennis shoes instead of moccasins. We need to be well-armed now more than ever, wherever we are in the country.

      • Blackbird November 1, 2021 at 12:00 pm #

        We are the Indians now.

        The government has upgraded from Gatling guns, we haven’t.

        • chimayred November 1, 2021 at 12:56 pm #

          doesn’st matter. They don’t have enough tanks, jets and personnel to quell us. If the Afghans could hold their own against us and the Soviets, we can do the same thing.

          • WilbursHuman November 1, 2021 at 1:04 pm #

            “doesn’st matter. They don’t have enough tanks, jets and personnel to quell us. If the Afghans could hold their own against us and the Soviets, we can do the same thing”.

            this right here X’s 1000

          • Paula D November 1, 2021 at 1:16 pm #

            They didn’t, though.
            The US armed the mujahadeen with advanced weapons in the 80s, or they wouldn’t have gotten very far against the Soviets.
            And the Taliban lost quickly in 2001, when the US attacked them.
            The reason they won in 2021 was because they spent 20 years organizing, getting the different tribes to agree on the one goal of getting the US out of their country.
            They didn’t win by fighting, they won by organizing.

          • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 1:17 pm #

            The Deplorables are the only real Americans. The rest are doomed and damned.

          • WilbursHuman November 1, 2021 at 1:27 pm #

            @ Paula……….

            Did you ever read where they used big, heavy balls,

            Tied together with a cable and shot out of a make-shift cannon…

            At the soviet Helicopters ……..

            Does amazing things to the areo dynamics

            Of the blades when they got tangled up in them

            Lot to be said too, about fighting on your own ground………

            We never did uproot them out of their “own ground”

          • WilbursHuman November 1, 2021 at 1:30 pm #


            I would dare say, If you asked some Marine, sitting in a wheel chair…….

            After loosing both legs from some home-made bomb…..

            If they didn’t win against us,

            The story might be different.

          • Paula D November 1, 2021 at 2:53 pm #

            No, wilbur, I hadn’t heard that. How do you make a makeshift cannon?
            Asking for a friend.

          • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 3:56 pm #

            Well…. they have DARPA. 😉

          • abbybwood November 1, 2021 at 4:05 pm #

            Half the military would join the people to fight for The Constitution and the other half are Woke, confused fools.

          • stelmosfire November 1, 2021 at 5:25 pm #

            Wilbur. that was called chainshot, mostly used against masted ships, although it does tend to do wonders on massed troops. Grapeshot is cool also as was proved in the Napoleonic wars. I feel bad when I pop a squirrel. I would be called a pussy. I have seen death and the dead. I actually feel worse when I see a dead dog than a human. I know. I’m a POS. Sue me.

          • WilbursHuman November 1, 2021 at 5:59 pm #

            “I have seen death and the dead. I actually feel worse when I see a dead dog than a human. I know. I’m a POS. Sue me””

            never ever Mister !!!!!!!

            been there, done it, did my turn as an EMT. Handled my share too……..

            The young man that hit me head on in “96”, dampened my enthusiasm for it……..

            Doin CPR on my father the following year, killed any desire to continue.

            Do anything you want to me , i’ll handle it………..

            Harm my dogs…………

            Hell, Is comin to breakfast

          • tresho November 1, 2021 at 6:57 pm #

            we can do the same thing Only after we learn how to die in the quantities Afghans have been dying in.

          • Paula D November 2, 2021 at 8:08 pm #

            Have you noticed, Tresho, that the media treats the vax casualties in the US about the same as the Afghan casualties of the last 20 years?
            They either ignore them, deny them, or treat them as acceptable collateral damage.

    • Blackbird November 1, 2021 at 12:06 pm #

      Most gun owners also have roots. They know the land. They know their neighbors. They know how to put meat on the table. Down the road a few miles in the gun-fearing suburbs, most of that knowledge has gone extinct.

      • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 2:53 pm #

        Howdy neighbor. I’m going to couch surf across America using Greyhound. I’ll get a pass….

        What’s your address?

        • stelmosfire November 2, 2021 at 9:01 am #

          Vlad, My address? Um ,OK

          S. Fire
          7:62 Say Hello Rd
          Tomylittle, Fren, 00BB

        • Blackbird November 2, 2021 at 7:41 pm #

          Does Greyhound have couches now?

          You’ll have to switch to Indian Trails in Detroit. After that it’s all curbside stops – no station, no restroom, no nothin’. I’m not sure the stop up here even has a curb. Gotta wear a mask too, I don’t see that working out well. If you manage to make it onto the bus at the Flint stop (hour and twenty minute wait, in the cold, in Flint…), post a comment here and I guess maybe I’ll head into town and see who gets off the bus.

          My tales of tatted, pierced, overly-armed anarchist potheads kinda fired up your enthusiasm for the frozen wastelands, didn’t it?

      • Bilejones November 2, 2021 at 1:14 pm #

        I think the dividing line might be those who hit the floor when they hear gunshots and those who think, that’ll be Fred. hope he gets that coyote.(Might become a selection criteria on Zillow.)
        My 76 year old recently widowed neighbor was complaining about how the girls don’t get together at the range the way they used to.

        • stelmosfire November 3, 2021 at 10:29 am #

          My kind of women.

    • butter56 November 1, 2021 at 1:13 pm #

      I think attitudes about guns have changed on this site in recent years. We are living in more dangerous times than the Wild West. A month ago, i was in Wyoming visiting my daughter. We went to some Oregon trail sites. It said that the danger from Indians was overblown and that some wagon trains never saw an Indian their entire journey. Hunger, thirst and disease was more of a danger.

      • JohnAZ November 1, 2021 at 2:30 pm #

        Cholera killed many, camping in sites where the previous wagon train camped and the one before. The rivers were chock full of cholera bacteria.

      • Paula D November 1, 2021 at 2:56 pm #

        It always cracks me up when I see people walking around, or sitting in meetings, with their ubiquitous water bottles (it also pisses me off, of course, because of the waste).
        I think ”Your frigging ancestors walked across 2,000 miles of desert and mountains and you can’t sit through an hour meeting without “hydration”?
        What a bunch of wimps.

        • stelmosfire November 1, 2021 at 9:30 pm #

          Fukin’ eh!

  20. E. H. Hail November 1, 2021 at 10:50 am #

    Kunstler wrote: “In the background lurks this virus thing, and the insane vaccination program it prompted.”

    How did the Corona-Panic debacle happen? It’s the question of our time. Much of the main body of commentary in this post follows from it, at the least greatly exacerbating many of the current problems and causing many of them outright.

    One approach to this question is to ask: Who pushed the Corona-Panic? Why? Who set the narrative, policed it, and enforced it?

    • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 10:57 am #

      It was engineered at every level for years and years. Down to the smallest detail. 2009 was a dry run, didn’t take. AIDs was a dry run, that’s still going on.

      Lots of predictive programming, mind-fuckery, mass hypnotism and fearmongering is how they pulled it off. But it doesn’t work on everyone. They took a gamble that it would work on most.

      • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 11:28 am #

        2009 failed because they didn’t have the smartphone saturation social media brainwashing tools in wide enough use on the youth side and they didn’t have the cheap, 85″, 4K smart flatscreens in play on the older folks.

        • JohnAZ November 1, 2021 at 2:34 pm #


          They did not have Trump in the WH that they had to get rid of at all costs. Hence Pence, Fauci, Birx and the threat flames they lit and fanned. The main threat was the damage done in the realm of the nursing homes, especially in New York.

          It was entirely political.

          • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 6:34 pm #

            Agree to slightly disagree!

            I still think the tools I mentioned are a significant factor in the current mess, but I do agree with you that Trump’s presence in the WH provided incredible motivation for the opposition to push the pandemic narrative.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 11:04 am #

      After I get my copy of Alex Berenson’s new book, I’ll let you know if those questions are answered in it.

      Jordan Schachtel has done some writing on how we came to follow China’s plan.

      • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 1:20 pm #

        Wrong guy for that. He denies any conspiracy. He’s good on details of course.

        • Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 1:43 pm #

          Which guy? Alex?

          As for the conspiracy, I do not believe everyone involved was in on each and every aspect of the conspiracy, as I believe what we had was really a matrix of various little conspiracies.

          What’s bizarre to me is that so many people still believe in various tools employed by the conspirators, no matter how many times they are shown that the conspirators themselves don’t believe in masking, etc.

    • WilbursHuman November 1, 2021 at 1:10 pm #

      This fellow answers your questions quite well……….


      I posted this a month or so ago, but its way more than relevant right now

    • Night Owl November 1, 2021 at 3:46 pm #

      The World Economic Forum.

      And it is far from over.

    • abbybwood November 1, 2021 at 4:09 pm #

      Fauci, Schwab and the Deep State?

  21. fugeguy November 1, 2021 at 10:55 am #


    Announcer: And now, A Fireside Chat, with President Jimmy Carter.

    [ dissolve to President Jimmy Carter, dressed in sweatshirt marked “Jimmy” as he smilingly pedals an exercise bike attached to a pair of methane tanks ]
    President Jimmy Carter: Good evening, everybody! On many occasions, I’ve — I’ve used symbolic acts to communicate with you. Because I’m aware of symbolism. And, tonight, to symvolize my determination to implement the Carter Energy Program. I’m personally, at this moment, generating all the electricity necessary… to transmit this television broadcast to you! And, you know, there’s enough energy left over to run this electric hot comb. [ he pulls the device out of the bike’s basket, runs it through his hair and smiles ]

    Rosalynn Carter: Jimmy! It’s, uh, my turn to power the broadcast now!

    President Jimmy Carter: Okay. Ready to make the switch, Rosalynn?

    Rosalynn Carter: Okay, now! I’m ready! [ she starts hopping up and down ] 1! 2! 3!

    [ Jimmy jumps off one end of the exercise bike, as Rosalynn jumps onto it from the other side. The screen flickers as she pedals quick enough to match Jimmy’s speed. ]
    President Jimmy Carter: Good work, honey!

    Rosalynn Carter: Thank you, Sugar!

    President Jimmy Carter: Almost lost it there!

    • fugeguy November 1, 2021 at 10:56 am #

      President Jimmy Carter: Almost lost it there!

      2021 and clearly the “almost” part no longer applies.

      • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 6:07 pm #

        Jimmy Carter, 97 years old, 40 years out of office. That’s got to be the record for ex-Presidents.

        And now we’re back to 13% CPI inflation. Seems like the good old days with Jimmy all over again.

        • fugeguy November 4, 2021 at 8:00 am #

          Still more coherent then P. Joe I suspect.

        • Q. Shtik November 4, 2021 at 12:14 pm #

          And now we’re back to 13% CPI inflation. – hmuller


          Have you got a source for that CPI figure?

  22. Ishabaka November 1, 2021 at 10:59 am #

    Anyone notice the NYT piece was written by “Brandon”?

    • abbybwood November 1, 2021 at 4:13 pm #

      I would love to read that!

  23. MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 11:03 am #

    Excellent article today, James. Thank you!

    I am hoping to get through this winter hunkered down with all my stocked-up provisions. I hope I’m in a part of the country that doesn’t shut down electricity or gas heat this winter. I have no idea what to expect.

    I would not want to be in a big city right now, that is for sure. Who knows what will happen? When I lived in LA, back in the early 2000s, they were already doing rolling brown-outs and black-outs. And NYC has had their share, too. And that was in prosperous times.

    It is gonna be a rocky road. Community is of the utmost importance, that is for sure.

    “Let’s Go, Brandon” has really started something, alright.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 11:10 am #

      NYC already had that never really explained major outage in 2003. Once they got caught in a lie (lightning) about how it happened, there was no reason to accept the final explanation, if if it made sense. Which it did not.

      It was some kind of test.

      • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 12:17 pm #

        Yes. I don’t believe there are many accidents. I think they are usually dry runs.

        • Night Owl November 1, 2021 at 3:49 pm #

          IMO, they are testing grids everywhere. My Internet at the house is usually rock solid. Or it was until this year. Every two weeks or so we have a few days where all kinds of strange DNS-related stuff occurs.

          It coincides nicely with the many warnings we have received from the head Bond villain and Covid hoax field marshall and his criminal friends in DAVOS.

          • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 6:35 pm #

            Good point re: internet. Mine’s also worse than it was years ago.

          • Night Owl November 1, 2021 at 7:55 pm #

            Ours isn’t just worse, it goes down 15-20 times a day over the course of several days every two weeks or so.

            Full on outage. Highly unusual.

  24. scoubidou123 November 1, 2021 at 11:07 am #

    There is a better example of a financial second law of thermodynamics.

    In 1970, a handful of countries, the western world plus Japan, had crafted the rare combination of very many things, institutional and cultural, from the creation of science and technology, freedom of expression, freedom of property, independent judiciary, high trust among citizens, education, respect for authority, dedication to family and children, delaying gratification in the expectation of a better future for you and your children etc that would allow a prosperity unseen in the history of mankind. But that unnatural island of hot (rich) temperatures in the backdrop of a much poorer (cold) wider world, that was the result of boundaries and borders, was not to last. Very many forces came into being to even out the temperatures. From what used to be the right came financial and economic globalization, that offshored and shipped abroad entire industries, impoverishing cities and entire regions – but hey, there is a lot of profit to be made arbitraging labour in a global scale. From what used to be the left came demographic globalization, mass immigration from the third world, pouring Somalis into Minneapolis. Both processes will continue until thermodynamics has run its course, temperatures have evened out, and Detroit is no better off than Port-au-Prince.

    • rainmaker November 1, 2021 at 11:18 am #

      Port-au-Prince will be better off than Detroit, Scoubi, Port-au-Prince is not a frozen hell in the winter.

    • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 1:40 pm #

      There ya go. We didn’t value what we had – or ourselves. Putting all of faith in “Capitalism” or greed. The Rich were the heroes. Everyone wanted to be a one of them. So if its good for them, it must be good for us. They must know what they’re doing, right? So why not ship all of our jobs overseas – and even more amazingly, then bring in alien workers to under-cut our own people?

      They still don’t get it as witness Sean Hannity giving Tucker a hard time for criticizing the Corporations for being the enforcement arm of the Covidian State.

      The answer? Socialism. Marxist and International? No National – which includes private ownership and businesses.

    • JohnAZ November 1, 2021 at 2:39 pm #


      Creation is the opposite of entropy. Creation happens and continues to maturity, then entropy entrees and tears things down to “death”.

      Could it be that the Founding Fathers creation, the United States, with its Constitution is a creation that is entering its final stages of entropy?

      Like every other empire in history?

      • Hereward the Woke November 1, 2021 at 4:52 pm #

        JohnAZ: all the signs are there. If we come back from this in one piece, it will be our greatest achievement. I don’t think we will. That’s not necessarily a terrible outcome: we may devolve into smaller but more functional entities.

    • SpeedyBB November 3, 2021 at 5:33 am #

      I would like to borrow this quote and highlight it in my social media. Makes eminent sense.

      • scoubidou123 November 3, 2021 at 3:16 pm #


        It’s not a closed club. Since then, several countries have joined, Taiwan, South Korea, China and we tend to forget that in 1960s they were poorer than Africa.

        But very many others have not.

  25. Rodster November 1, 2021 at 11:10 am #

    Jim’s Monday blog post should have been titled: “Uh Huh”.

  26. docmartin November 1, 2021 at 11:11 am #

    If we eliminate coal mines where will the canary croak?

    • anmariwakaranai November 1, 2021 at 12:55 pm #

      Canary died in a banksters trunk
      On the eve of the 10th of september

    • JohnAZ November 1, 2021 at 2:41 pm #

      If we eliminate coal mines, where will heat and fuel come from when Peak Oil hits?

  27. Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 11:22 am #

    Here’s a link to lists of lists people are assembling on various scamdemic/lockdown articles:


  28. Amman November 1, 2021 at 11:33 am #

    “Stay nimble, stay local, stay reality-based, be helpful, be honest, be brave, and be kind to each other. We’ll get through it.” – JHK

    • elysianfield November 1, 2021 at 12:35 pm #

      “Stay nimble, stay local, stay reality-based, be helpful, be honest, be brave, and be kind to each other. We’ll get through it.”

      And if that doesn’t work for you? Try mobile and hostile….

  29. Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 11:45 am #

    The more the narrative falls apart, the more they try to ramp up the fear again.

    Does Jen Psaki actually have a virus? She said she was revealing her ‘positive test’ out of an abundance of transparency or something. I also noticed she was careful to state that she had worn a mask and kept six feet distance from the president.

    Why? Why still endorse things you know did not work?

    No one will ask her to revisit her statement about a pandemic of the unvaccinated, or Joe’s lie about if you get the vaccine you won’t get Covid.

    The Let’s Go Brandon chant is not so much about Joe Biden, as it is mockery of the lying MSM that keeps covering for him.

    I wonder if Psaki just wanted to avoid being overseas and out of a controlled environment with her senile boss.

    • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 12:22 pm #

      “Let’s Go, Brandon” is a way for everyone to register their outrage and disgust at not just Biden but the entire tyrannical cabal in charge, who are really running the show. And as we see, it went mega-viral.

      Which means the average person is very unhappy with the state of things. Which shows me that a lot of people are waking up.

      It was funny – I got a text from that kid who was a crisis actor in that Florida shooting false flag – the one that tried to start a pillow company to put the “My Pillow” guy out of business but failed. David Hogg. So he’s shilling for the Democrap party, and texts me begging for money for some candidate or other (Dem of course) and I responded “Let’s Go, Brandon.”

      That phrase is coming in super handy for me.

      • Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 12:38 pm #

        If that Hogg kid is so brilliant, since everybody knew the shooter was about to explode, why didn’t he do something to prevent it?

        He had a whole organization ready to go, suspiciously fast, after the fact.

        • Paula D November 1, 2021 at 1:20 pm #

          Yep. Somehow a few grieving teenagers managed to organize hundreds of anti-gun rallies in multiple cities throughout the country, in only two weeks, complete with signs and banners, bands and singers, sound equipment, park permits, and millions of people showing up.
          Too bad he couldn’t make pillows.

          • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 4:47 pm #

            I read (but am not positive if it’s true, because google won’t let you find these things anymore) that Hogg was not even a student at the time of the shooting.

            And yeah, isn’t it funny how they managed to pull off all those coordinated anti-gun rallies?

          • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 4:49 pm #

            Watching the process (on Twatter) of him bragging he was going to put “My Pillow” out of business, to the end where he gave up, was pretty hilarious.

          • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 6:25 pm #

            David Hogg was rewarded with admission to Harvard in fall 2019 with an SAT score of 1270, shockingly low for Harvard.
            The quote below provides some perspective on standards.

            “The school consistently takes SAT composite scores down to 1460 on a 1600 scale, below which admission should be considered a reach. We estimate some students could be accepted with SAT’s as low as 1400. The estimated average SAT composite for admitted freshman is 1520 out of 1600.”

          • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 6:38 pm #

            @hmuller, yep, the dad is connected. I think, if memory serves, to the CIA.

        • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 1:43 pm #

          There’s a great picture of him, the bald lesbian, and a few others all together a few days after the shooting, smiling joyfully. This was their ship and they were ready for it.

          • malthuss November 2, 2021 at 12:00 am #

            link pls

      • Blackbird November 2, 2021 at 7:53 pm #

        Gotta admit I’m disappointed that the “Let’s Go Brandon!” comment I left on Jussie Trudeau’s YouTube only got 3 upvotes – but at least my YouTube channel is still up – for now…

    • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 2:07 pm #

      Psaki is just taking the opportunity to virtue signal to the psyop’s benefit before going on vacay.

      Her fellow Karens and the soy’d up numales will devour the signaling like Pez candy.

    • Islander November 1, 2021 at 3:41 pm #

      Sure looks to me like a tactical move from Knight Jen—2 vertical, 1 horizontal.

      Goose the domestic covid PR.

      Avoid lots of PR traps in Glasgow—potentially even journalists who ask real questions.

  30. Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 11:57 am #

    China suddenly decided to pull a major Covid stunt, after all this time.

    They locked thousands of people in Shanghai Disneyland until they could all be tested, after one woman from another province tested positive.

    Since the vaccines that form the basis for the passports don’t do anything but maybe harm you, I imagine this is what we can expect, from here on out, once they get the passports installed.

    Hazmat suits and everything.


    • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 12:24 pm #

      They want to set up a structure like this, by which at any given time, you can be locked up or out, or starved, if you don’t do whatever they tell you to do.

      This is why N.O. and I have been saying for months that if we get to the vaxx pass stage, we are done for.

      • Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 12:42 pm #

        One elected official is trying to prevent it. A handful of other are attempting lame imitations of what he’s attempting.

        Most Republicans are pretending that private businesses just up and decided that they really need a way to determine whether customers are all up to date on their shots, and God forbid they interfere with the rights of business.

      • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 2:09 pm #

        Keeping people off-balance and confused is a key tool for breaking down people’s minds and remolding them in the desired fashion.

        This op also serves as a signal to their co-travellers in the West to begin ramping hysteria as cold n’ flu season arrives.

    • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 2:21 pm #

      Heh, they tested 33k people.

      Funny how that number 33 keeps showing up.

      Even funnier is that all tests were negative.

      Something really doesn’t add up here…

  31. SW November 1, 2021 at 12:04 pm #

    In addition to corrupting the money supply, setting us up for some kind of debacle that Congress ineptly will “handle”, there’s a concerted effort to create anger and division among people. I lived in Austin 17 years near this Synagog and never once was there any trouble. All this has happened in only the last couple of weeks — right before a city election.

    “Last night around 9pm some of you may have heard extra loud sirens in the area. Unfortunately, the Austin Fire Department had to respond to an arson fire set in front of the Congregation Beth Israel synagogue doors at Shoal Creek and 38th Street. As far as reports say no one was injured and there was no major damage to the building. They are still investigating and do not know who did this.

    This incident follows several acts of hate that have taken place in the Austin area over the last week at Anderson High School and an anti Semitic sign displayed twice over the Far West bridge at MoPac by a white supremacist group who traveled to Austin. ”

    “…..white supremacist group who traveled to Austin”

    My guess is these are the same people or belong to the same group that magically appears and creates chaos and destruction across the country. One time they’re antifa, the next time they’re white supremacists, whatever they’re paid to do. Who’s paying them?

    • Paula D November 1, 2021 at 12:16 pm #

      I agree. We had no riots this summer. Why?
      And now, when needed, we get “white supremacists”.
      I agree, they are most likely the same people, just labeled differently.

      • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 2:20 pm #

        Socialist Jack London wrestled with his loyalties to his People and to International Marxism. They demanded he choose the Revolution and some nebulous brotherhood of man. He chose his own People instead. He never renounced socialism though, only communism.

        • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 6:28 pm #

          Who exactly were his People?

          • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 9:26 pm #

            Google his picture.

          • malthuss November 2, 2021 at 12:02 am #


          • hmuller November 2, 2021 at 11:03 am #

            Let’s see. White people, male people, wavy haired people, secretly gay people, lactose intolerant people, uncircumcised people, happy people, big headed people, straight nosed people, alcoholically inclined people, dog loving people, big tie wearing people.

            Should I keep guessing?

    • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 12:26 pm #

      I don’t believe that any of these ‘hate crimes’ are anything but false flags.

      They want to keep us divided as much as possible so that we don’t rise up collectively against them. It’s been working for too long, but people are catching on.

    • BackRowHeckler November 1, 2021 at 1:04 pm #

      I would guess Soros.

      • SW November 1, 2021 at 1:37 pm #

        He seems to be everywhere sowing seeds to destabilize cities. Some of his DAs hold office in Chicago, LA, St. Louis, Philadelphia and probably others I don’t know about. No need to repeat the exploding murder rate in Chicago that the mayor and DA do nothing about.

        “Kim Foxx, the state’s attorney for Cook County and darling of MSNBC, has managed to increase murders in Chicago to astounding levels even at a time when we’re all getting used to astounding crime figures. Nationwide in 2020, murder and non-negligent manslaughter were up 29.4%, according to the FBI. That’s more than double the previous record of 1968, when murders increased by 12.7%.”

        Foxx is a Soros-funded DA.

        Here’s the article:


        • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 2:21 pm #

          He’s started installing county sheriffs as well.

          That’s really bad.

    • JohnAZ November 1, 2021 at 2:47 pm #

      Same outfit that is paying for the election of all the Black, unqualified, Woke city officials that are destroying the major cities today. All the criminal punks no longer fear authority, because there isn’t any.

      Do you think that maybe it is all leading up to Blacks being the cities in the future? What a buildup for a race war!

      • SW November 1, 2021 at 3:59 pm #

        If that’s the plan, then the plan is to abandon them eventually. All this race-blame that’s been ginned up, I believe, has been done cynically and has zero to do with actually helping minorities have more productive lives and opportunities.

    • Islander November 1, 2021 at 3:43 pm #


      Amerikan Frei Korps.

      • Islander November 1, 2021 at 3:45 pm #

        Create disruptions in public spaces and blare out propaganda about “keeping people safe” until militia or national guard called in to “preserve order.”

  32. O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 12:10 pm #

    The man has an incredible ability to connect the dots and serve up a tasty verbal dish twice a week.

    God bless Mr K indeed!


    I disagree with his dot-connecting on this though:

    Where I differ from other observers is that I doubt that any sort of extreme government surveillance state can be imposed on the public under these conditions. The people will be too pissed-off and, anyway, the current regime will be broke and out of mojo — possibly to the degree that it has to be shoved aside. “Let’s Go Brandon” is serious business. It’s the end of something.

    I Believe that they did not start something that they can’t finish. Just because we can’t see their plan does not mean that the 1% of the 1% does not have a plan. They do. Other shoes will drop.

    They know what they are doing.

    • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 12:32 pm #

      Note: I say the 1% of the 1% because that is more accurate.

      I was in the 1% a decade ago. I remember thinking, “I’ll bet I am the only 1%er protesting the 1%ers here [in Zucotti Park].”

      While my annual income of ~$350,000/year at the time did, indeed, place me in the top percentile, Bill Gates wasn’t calling me up to pick my brain for ideas.

      In fact, at $350,000/year, I was pretty small potatoes even within my own Canadian bank (BMO).

      The bottom of the 1% can lease nicer SUVs, stay at the Better resorts on the Mayan Riviera and not bat an eye at zeroing MasterCard each month.

      But clout? Shit. Small potatoes.

      Even the men & women at BMO making 2x and 3x what I was making were not off to meetings at Davos or Bohemian Grove.

      It is the top 1% of the top 1% that runs this planet. At the bottom of the top 1%, I was still just a cog in their machine and no more.

      • SW November 1, 2021 at 3:52 pm #

        I hope you saved some of that money or you’ll be serving martinis on Gates new solar 1 billion $ yacht. 🙂

        • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 7:26 pm #

          I did save much … but then crooked lawyers extorted it from me.

          Sad but True.

          I’m “Just along for the ride” now.

          • SW November 1, 2021 at 9:39 pm #

            Crooked — lawyers….(you repeat yourself).

            I imagine there are some honest ones but like so many other professions and the people who practice them, they seem to become rarer and rarer. I went through a probate one time and after the depositions and court appearances, etc. there was quite literally nothing left. And the lawyer admitted that she knew from the beginning it was a complete waste of time but said nothing until the resources ran out. Fortunetly that happened really fast.

    • SW November 1, 2021 at 2:12 pm #

      All this data collecting is not just to sell us junk we don’t need or catch criminals but to have the evidence at their fingertips if a person who crosses them too aggressively becomes a threat. In the not distant future, expressing an opinion can and will be classified as a hate crime if twisted the right way.

      Orwell saw this aspect coming — thinking, or God forbid, saying — that men are better at math than women has already lost people their jobs. Questioning vaccines, the myth of multi genders, and plenty of other subjects deemed sacred is just the beginning.

    • Socrates-Detroit November 1, 2021 at 4:27 pm #

      I look forward to this blog! It never disappoints, always good, often exceptional, like today’s!

      That said, like OG, I’m not sure I agree about the “regime being out of Mojo”.

      I think they can tolerate a high amount of anarchy (eg Detroit/Baltimore inner city chaos and others) and still control people and functions that matter. I think they are fast and furiously trying to implement their “Matrix” so it cannot be reversed. This COVID-19 and especially the shots are the Trojan Horse.

      And yet… if, as JHK seems to imply, the US PTB implode and America devolves, that would seem to comport with the absence of America as a player in major future world events….

  33. Paula D November 1, 2021 at 12:24 pm #

    Yeah, as George the Lesser also pointed out, this sucker is going down.
    I always rejected the “they are killing us all!!!!” hysteria for the last 50 years, since the population went from 3 billion to 7+ billion in that same period of “genocide”. Worst Genocide Ever.
    I figured that TPTB prefer great masses of desperate people to exploit.
    But now? They don’t need THAT many, ffs.
    But how to wipe out a few billion people without empowering the survivors? The Black Death freed the surviving peasants of Europe, and made them quite uppity.
    I think that’s where the surveillance system and the police state, complete with the fusion centers, comes in.
    But that all relies on electricity. What a dilemma. Will they be able to pull it off? Inquiring minds want to know.
    I wonder about the overdoses. As the US pulled out of Afghanistan there went the heroin supply. So what are the junkies ODing on? Whatever it is, it seems effective. Is that the solution for the streets full of young people nodding off?
    Today my water is coming out with air in it. I have running water piped to my house by the city. I guess I should have put in a well. But most people with wells around here rely on electricity to pump it.
    We’re just not used to doing on our own.
    We’re headed for hard times.

    • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 12:30 pm #

      Yeah we are headed for hard times.

      I also wondered how the PTB are going to run their techno-feudal global plantation, given the upcoming scarcity of the machinery they would need in order to implement it.

      Even if they could squeak it out – they couldn’t afford to replace anything that broke or was destroyed, not for long. The resources simply won’t be there.

      Maybe the techno-feudalism threat itself is a red herring or smokescreen. After all, they’ve been pretty public about it.

      • BackRowHeckler November 1, 2021 at 12:55 pm #

        I remember when US Steel was sold, and the new owners– a hedge fund — began shutting down the mills. The fund Director, quote “Our job is to make money, not make steel.”

        Meanwhile in Glasgow, Captain Planet is negotiating with UN lizards whether you’ll be paying $12 per gallon or $15 per gallon for No. 2 heating oil this winter. Captain Planet is holding out for $15 to show how serious Biden is about holding down global temps 1.5°C by 2100.

        The whole lot of them will be dining on caviar and drinking champagne while they cook up plans to reduce earth’s human population and the best way to do it so nobody catches on. Driving up the cost of home heating (natgas and Kerosene) in Northern regions in winter is a good start.

        • WilbursHuman November 1, 2021 at 1:18 pm #

          back when the largest steel mill in the world, was in Buffalo………

          We could make things like this.


          We have fallen, a long ways

          • BackRowHeckler November 1, 2021 at 2:54 pm #

            Is that from the Baldwin Plant, Wilbur?

          • WilbursHuman November 1, 2021 at 4:34 pm #

            Lima Loco Works BRH, Lima Ohio.

            The same plant, the first Sherman rolled out of in WW2

            the same plant where, they would lift 3 and 4 hundred ton Locomotives

            And carry them twenty feet in the air, from one end of the plant to the other

            Yep, we are screwed

        • JohnAZ November 1, 2021 at 2:51 pm #

          Maybe Ol’ Joe should volunteer for the euthanasia squads.

      • toktomi November 1, 2021 at 2:26 pm #


        PTB being the global ruling elite not the corporate errand boys?

        How they gonna do it? I have pondered this for a couple of decades.
        Downsizing [miniturizing] industrial society [now underway] for their very exclusive longer term survival seems like an infinitely complex trick. But I can only conclude that is what they have indeed planned and is now playing out.

        None of us will told, I reckon.


        • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 8:28 pm #

          The PTB = ruling elite AND their corporate errand boys. They all make up the system.

      • Islander November 1, 2021 at 3:47 pm #

        I am for work horses.

        And donkeys and mules.

        • Paula D November 1, 2021 at 5:32 pm #

          Awhile back, people in the UK were scandalized to find out that horse meat was being sold as beef.
          Why did that happen?
          Because in order for Romania to join the EU they had to switch from horses and mules to fossil fuel-powered machines, so they sold off their animals, and in the wonders of capitalism people found a way to make a profit by selling it to supermarkets in the UK.
          Why was that a demand? I forget what year it was, but we were well into post-peak oil times. It was insane to turn people who still farmed with animals into people dependent on fossil fuels.
          But we are not ruled by sane people.

      • thirdcoastlegend November 1, 2021 at 6:48 pm #


        I tend to agree that the supply chain issues and eventual currency collapse will preclude the global digital medico-financial-sociopolitical control grid they want to implement.

        Rather than build back better, I believe we are going to balkanize back better.

    • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 12:33 pm #

      Re: your well, hmmm.

      People out here relied on wells forever. A lot of people have them. This summer, we got that drought, and a lot of them dried up. So they had no water. Some people had to move because there was no one to dig their wells deeper – they were booked out over a year!

      Then they shut off the irrigation aquifers a month early, so that impacted people who used that water. I guess the west might be less sustainable than the rest of the country at this point.

      • Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 12:47 pm #

        I need electricity to run the pump that keeps my basement from filling up with water.

        The street just around the corner used to have a bridge over it.

        • tresho November 1, 2021 at 7:07 pm #

          They do sell 12 VDC powered pumps that will suck water out of basements while the battery lasts. They do sell pumps powered by water pressure that will suck water out of basements while there is still adequate pressure in city water lines. I supposed there are even human pumps available, but you probably have to get them from China.

      • Paula D November 1, 2021 at 1:26 pm #

        Oh, yeah, back to the water wars of the 19th century, but with millions more people.
        How’s that going to work out?
        My uncle lived in a valley in Utah. Everyone knew where the water came from and that it was scarce.
        I remember him getting up a 3am to turn on his water when it was his turn to use it. I wondered why they couldn’t let him turn it on in the day, but maybe it was to stop evaporation.
        To go over the mountain to the “big” city of Provo was an all-day process, because the single road was rutted and you had to go about 15 mph.
        Now I hear that they built a multi-lane highway to Provo and that valley of tiny towns (100 population in that town) has boomed with people commuting over the mountain to the NSA data center they built in Provo. I remember going by Provo on Amtrak and I could not believe the sprawl. Mile after mile of McMansions had been built for the little Eichmann spies.
        All of that relies on water also. So how are they managing?
        I have no idea, but I doubt it is sustainable.

        • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 2:01 pm #


          Here’s an inspiring figure, an example of the point I was trying to make. As you said, this ardent Unionist was vehemently against open borders. And as I said, he was also against the Marxist Communists, saying that the IWW were Communists and “Look what the Bolsheviks did to the workers in Russia”. Why would we want that here?

          Was he a Socialist? Maybe, not sure. But he was absolutely against the Communists or “the Left”. But of course, funded as they were by the banks, the Left triumphed in this ideological battle.

          • BackRowHeckler November 1, 2021 at 2:49 pm #

            Big Bill Haywood would beg to differ. Big Bill is buried in the Kremlin Wall.

          • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 2:56 pm #

            Paul Robeson too? He did the best Old Man River of anybody, now or then. But he fell for the lies even though he was smart.

        • Rulo Deschamps November 1, 2021 at 5:31 pm #

          Paula, yes. Water is key. The most necessary resource.

        • tresho November 1, 2021 at 7:10 pm #

          It’s not sustainable in the West. Read Reisner’s “Cadillac Desert” for details.

      • Islander November 1, 2021 at 3:51 pm #

        I grew up with a well.

        In dry summers the well went dry.

        We had to bring in gallons of drinking water from a nearby farmer, 1/2 mile away. The same guy who plowed us out with his tractor when we got snowed in.

        Since we didn’t bathe very often anyhow, the well going dry wasn’t too great a hardship. My mother didn’t care much for housework, so we just made sandwiches and went—that is, walked—to the beach. Had cookout for dinner.

        • Paula D November 1, 2021 at 5:35 pm #

          My co-worker grew up with a cistern. They were allowed one shower a week.
          She told me that when she hit her teenaged years, she would long for Saturday to come, to wash her greasy hair. She said it never occurred to her to wish for running water, just Saturday, which shows how you get used to whatever circumstances you grow up in.

          • Anthea November 2, 2021 at 1:00 am #

            My little town didn’t get city water until 10-12 years ago. Everyone had a cistern and hauled water, or paid to have it hauled. At the time, my household was me and three teenage girls, but I never skimped on showers unless the situation was dire–such as in winter when the roads were bad and I worried that the water trucks wouldn’t be able to get to me. But we did skimp on flushing as much as possible, and developed a lot of oddball habits for conserving water.

            I also used to lie awake on cold nights listening for the pump to cycle on and off. If the pump ran continually because of frozen pipes, you were going to burn up your pump, so it was imperative to unplug the pump if it didn’t cycle off.

            I didn’t realize how stressful all this was until we got city water–all the worrying about the pump and the water level in the cistern.

          • Paula D November 2, 2021 at 2:12 pm #

            You paid to have water put in the cistern? Is that what you’re saying?
            I think they relied on rain water.

          • Islander November 4, 2021 at 10:41 pm #

            That is really crazy. Meanwhile back in the day (pardon my overuse of this phrase, but I may well be WAY behind the curve) there was a serious movement in Britain for using work horses instead of tractors. Reverting back to the use of big ol’ workhorses. Kind of like ‘real ale.” I can’t recall the name of this movement. And the arguments for doing so were pretty good. But of course you have to take care of your team of horses—and know how to drive them and use them for different farm tasks. But they have heart, and like to work. There are a number of breeds.


          • Islander November 4, 2021 at 10:48 pm #

            Paula D:

            We also had a cistern. The pump was down in a valley—obviously that is where the water was, underground. It pumped the water up to a cistern (a large container or well of some kind with a roof over it) that was on a hillside in the woods above our farmhouse, and the water flowed to the house via gravity. Sometimes the pump conked out and my father had to go down to the valley to fiddle with it. We were allowed to go pretty much anywhere on our own, but we were *strictly* forbidden to go anywhere near that cistern—for fear that someone could fall in if playing around.

        • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 5:57 pm #

          Sounds rather dreamy for a kid!

          • tresho November 1, 2021 at 7:11 pm #

            My mother grew up about 100 yards from the shoreline of Lake Michigan. Bathing frequently no issue when the water was warm enough.

        • malthuss November 3, 2021 at 12:22 am #

          What state n county?

    • anmariwakaranai November 1, 2021 at 1:07 pm #

      If tjere is a river nearby, you can siphon using garden hoses. I have a water filter set by, the kind they use in africa.

      • Rulo Deschamps November 1, 2021 at 5:30 pm #


        rainbarrels collecting from every roof – basic. A hand cranked pump for the well – a good investment. And they are still made in the US! The cast iron kind, like grandma used to have. More expensive every month. Wisconsin-made.

        No water – no life.

        • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 5:58 pm #

          And yet, I believe in CA water collection in barrels is illegal! How insane is that?

          • Paula D November 1, 2021 at 7:40 pm #

            It’s not, that is one of those urban myths. It is illegal in most western states to divert rivers and streams or steal water by digging a pond. Back to the water wars and all that.

          • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 8:33 pm #

            Ah! Good to know. Wow, and so many Los Angeleans believe it.

          • malthuss November 3, 2021 at 12:23 am #

            colorado, yes illegal

          • Paula D November 3, 2021 at 1:57 pm #

            Malthus, maybe you would be more educated if you actually looked at the link.
            “Most states have shifted their laws in favor of private rainwater harvesting. Colorado, the state with arguably the strictest rainwater harvesting laws, passed a bill in 2016 allowing for the collection of rainwater with a 110-gallon maximum capacity.”

        • anmariwakaranai November 1, 2021 at 11:31 pm #

          Rulo, I have a hydrologist in the family that says, don’t drink rainwater. No matter what. A little sparse on details though. I am gonna ask a few more questions and get back to you on that.
          But for watering, cleaning, flushing, absolutely! Roof catchers. Yup
          And I long for those old cast iron pumps.

          • Islander November 3, 2021 at 1:21 pm #

            typo alert:

            It was pumped up to the cistern from our well.

            As for collecting water in rainbarrels, water that is allowed to sit will of course be discovered by many organisms.

            In Bermuda, rainwater and cisterns are the only source of water.

        • Anthea November 2, 2021 at 1:09 am #

          I’ve done the rain-barrel gambit, with the water diverted to the cistern. It is a huge PITA, as the barrels (and the cistern) must be regularly and thoroughly cleaned. You would not believe how dirty they get.

          Usually when you pump out your cistern to clean it, you discover quite a bit of aquatic life down there, snakes and frogs and such. The bottom of a cistern is a very lonesome place. You need a ladder to get down in there, and a drop light, because it is dark. (Loop the cord of the drop light around a rung of the ladder because there is always about three inches of water at the bottom of a cistern after you pump it out. (The submersible pump doesn’t get it all.) You will be standing in that water, and you wouldn’t want the drop light to fall in the water.

          I could go on, but I won’t.

          • Islander November 3, 2021 at 1:18 pm #


            I grew up drinking water from a cistern.
            It pumped up the cistern from our well, then was fed into the house via gravity.

            Everyone who visited remarked on how delicious the water was. As a child I thought this was weird. I assumed that all water was the same, and had no taste.

            Tell that to the beer makers! They know better. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budweiser_Budvar_Brewery

        • anmariwakaranai November 3, 2021 at 12:27 pm #

          Further to the no rainwater for drinking comment I made….
          The hydrologist is unavailable for comment. But, a few years ago, when I brought it up, it was shut down so immediately and with such vehemence that it reminds me now of my reaction to the quackzine.

          So, this makes me think a couple of things. Said hydrologist is fully on board with the outlawing of private water collectioñ, or, there is some toxin so virulent in the upper atmosphere it must be gassed off prior to (water) consumption. Or both.

          • anmariwakaranai November 3, 2021 at 3:01 pm #

            Remember after Chernobyl how they kept out of the rain or wore borax coated rain gear? Go get some borax, wash your weather gear in it, in the rinse cycle.

  34. mitchellc November 1, 2021 at 12:44 pm #

    While thinkers did in fact initiate the plan, there was never any guarantee that it would actually work.

    So, why do it? Simple, it’s like Butch and Sundance jumping from the cliff down into the river below: they didn’t have a choice.

    Thinkers of all stripes, from our own JK, some of his merry band of followers, to pragmatic leaders and associated psychopaths, have all long known the score.

    But being able to add 2+2 doesn’t actually mean that any particular plan will succeed. As statisticians will tell you, success/failure is an entirely different event.

    Yes, they will try all means of control, but as Jim noted, it ain’t gonna happen. Do they have a plan B? Of course, but please note that all subsidiary plans are *reactive*, hence increasingly unlikely to succeed.

    That means Mad Max will indeed be the likely outcome. Possibly nukes. Let’s just hope any exchange is regional between secondary players.

    For anyone interested in who wins (assuming they are not nuked), consider why GB was the first to industrialize. Maybe because steam engines required coal, and Albion is literally a solid coal island?

    So, who’s got the goods? Maybe the 3rd Rome?

    • toktomi November 1, 2021 at 2:15 pm #


      A small bunch of us [bunch of ill-informed dreamers and doomers] gamed this all up during the early 2000’s.

      I cannot imagine that many walked away with such an optimistic viewpoint as you have briefly summarized here.

      But like Perry Arnett once wrote way back in those early days:
      “It will be in no one’s best interest to factually report the reality of the decline of fossil fuels once it begins in earnest.”, least of all, perhaps, for those who fancy escaping to unpopulated niches.

      The path to hope is paved with maybe stones.
      Think not of one’s opinions as knowledge; it is a trap.


      • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 4:38 pm #

        Think not of one’s opinions as knowledge; it is a trap.

        You are so full of shit, Tiktok. My word!

        We know the difference between Facts & Opinions, you pompous prick.

        You assume superior intellect, knowledge and experience when Really you are Just another asshole spouting crap.

        In my humble opinion, of course.


        You’d be Better served to respect those you belittle and seek clarity on their thoughts but your m.o. is to attack and ridicule in your infantile attempts at disproving your own insecurities.


        I am now off to purchase protein-rich whey powder … and lots of it!

    • Rulo Deschamps November 1, 2021 at 5:27 pm #

      India-Pakistan is my bet for “regional, secondary players” nuclear exchange.

      • Paula D November 1, 2021 at 5:38 pm #

        We came really close a couple of years ago.
        Thank goodness for that soccer player in charge of Pakistan, because Modi is nuts.

      • SpeedyBB November 4, 2021 at 10:55 am #

        India-Pakistan, Rulo? Not a bad bet, I’d wager. There is a great deal of sore feelings on both sides there, and for all we know the Pakistani army, the only lid on the boiling mess that is that “country”, is being infiltrated by the Islamic nutcases. That bunch is not characterized by long-term thinking, and would simply take pleasure in giving the hated Hindus next door a taste of nuclear hotfoot. That they themselves would suffer much more devastation is not really a concern of theirs.

        Fanatics being fanatics, I refer the reader to this [admittedly disputed] quote by the late and unlamented Ayatollah Khomeini: “We do not worship Iran, we worship Allah. For patriotism is another name for paganism. I say let this land [Iran] burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world.”

        Now how precisely Islam is supposed to triumph when the world is awash in fire is not detailed. However, as they say “It’s the feeling that counts”.

  35. MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 1, 2021 at 12:44 pm #

    Stay nimble, stay local, stay reality-based, be helpful, be honest, be brave, and be kind to each other. We’ll get through it.

    And be actively learning all the things you never thought you’d need to learn in modern society.

    When things tank (and tank hard)…In a flash, plumbers, auto mechanics, welders, gunsmiths, maintenance engineers (know how to fix an industrial boiler, anyone?) and woodworkers will be considered high society.

    The person with twenty chickens in his backyard will be a local hero. Mennonite farmer’s markets will sell out daily. People who know how to procure/process game, knowledgable mushroomers, people who know how to process and filter water properly, and folks who can make breads and prepare all kinds of raw foods (butter, salted meats, cheeses, wines, anyone?) into edible products will be hailed. Doctors with their own equipment and knowledge of how to procure/prepare medicines besides just “ordering them” will be royalty again.

    Libraries will be overrun…valuable information on paper. What a concept.

    And no one will give a shit about the current suburban royalty: the financial planners, the guy that owns an insurance company, the owner of the local Arby’s franchise, or the instant wonders of Netflix. Some small-town mayors and city councils will be very helpful….big city bureacrats will be on their asses and instantly forgotten.

    (Note: I know there are plenty of folks out there, many on this board, that can do one or more of the things listed above…but variety of knowledge will be key.)

    I, like most, know how to do a few things..but, also like most, I am as yet woefully unnprepared for a societal collapse. Off to the library!

    • chimayred November 1, 2021 at 12:50 pm #

      damn right!

    • BackRowHeckler November 1, 2021 at 1:00 pm #

      It’s hard to find a gunsmith around here, and this is exactly where tinkerers likeJohn Marlin, Tyler Henry, Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson, Sam Colt, Christain Sharps, and dozens of others started it all off.

      • Islander November 1, 2021 at 4:28 pm #

        New England was hard-scrabble. Soil was poor. You had to come up with something else to survive. Have ideas and turn them into products.

        Which is why New Englanders were some of the most inventive, adventurous, and business-savvy lot in the colonies—later, nation.

        • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 6:38 pm #

          I read New England is more forested now than at the time of the Civil War. Many of those rocky, small family farms disappeared when cheaper food from the Mid-west could be brought in by railroad.

    • BackRowHeckler November 1, 2021 at 1:12 pm #

      I don’t know Mango, this huge Caring and Sharing WELFARE STATE seems unassailable. It appears to have a lock on everything, even language — similar to how the Soviet State was perceived around say, 1983.

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 1, 2021 at 2:14 pm #

        Lol, well I didn’t say it would actually work in most cases…just that those people will have value, and those who feed directly from the teat of (only) modernity will be rendered useless unless they figure out something to make them viable.

        • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 2:57 pm #

          rendered useless
          – Mr M

          useless eaters
          – Henry Kissinger

          I’m starving!
          – The useless

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 1, 2021 at 8:00 pm #

            Remind me to never ask a question of what you write again…as apparently there is never an end to the ear-flicking from then on.

            As I mentioned, I was once married to a woman that found silghts in nearly everything anyone said to her. It’s that old familiar feeling!

          • SpeedyBB November 4, 2021 at 11:05 am #

            I first came across the phrase “useless eaters” in the David Irving biography of Goebbels (“unnütze Esser” in German). I had no idea it would become such a popular contemporary meme in English.

            The way the Nazis used the phrase, it meant “someone disabled and incapable of work or contributing to the common welfare of society”. The handicapped, mental defectives – all of no use to the Reich, and thus destined to go the way of the dodo.

            Today it refers to just about anybody the rulers have no use for, which in fact means just about everybody.

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 1, 2021 at 2:20 pm #

        Perhaps I could clarify by saying the people that have valuable knowledge and skills will be hailed…by the very small circle of others to whom they allow access to their trades/wares.

        I’d imagine most would try to disappear as much as possible.

        • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 3:05 pm #

          That is the predicament. If is very difficult to produce even small amounts of food without hordes of starving zombies discoverying your operation and picking it clean like a chicken bone.

          Of course, this is all under the assumption that there is some form of Freedom left while they have an app for that.

          “You will own nothing and work long, painful hours as instructed. Fuck your happiness. Your happiness is deader than your great-great grandpa.”

          • Paula D November 2, 2021 at 2:17 pm #

            The hordes of zombies have no clue where food comes from. They think it comes from stores.
            Also, they are unbelievably lazy. No way they will walk to the country to get the food they have no idea is produced there.

    • anmariwakaranai November 1, 2021 at 1:13 pm #

      For the transition. Protein to store now.
      White vinegar, salt, eggs.
      Your dishwasher can sterilize your canning jars and sealing lids.
      Boil eggs hard. Peel.
      Boil vinegar hard, add salt. A lot.
      Put eggs in hot jars, pour over vinegar solution, lid.
      Set aside jars that pop.
      Eat jars that don’t pop inside a month.
      I keep mine in the fridge for the time being, to extend shelf life.

      • toktomi November 1, 2021 at 2:00 pm #


        In my myopically channeled ways, emotions, and views over these last 21 years, canning is a massively space and weight intensive means of caching nutrients and calories, practical perhaps only if one is blessed with lots of remote storage spaces.

        May I suggest for the less fortunate among us, beans and fresh bugs.


        • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 2:31 pm #

          May God please spare me from catching and eating bugs to survive.

          Billy Gates can go … fly a kite.


          I’m off to Old Fashioned Foods today. I will buy a few massive containers of whey powder for protein. A scoop of that powder will be barter gold for trade with those down to eating grass-hoppers and crickets, imho.

          • rainmaker November 1, 2021 at 2:51 pm #

            I watched some survival show several years ago. The host was out in the desert for a couple of days, trying to survive on whatever he could find. He chased grasshoppers, and caught enough to skewer and roast over a campfire, for a small inadequate meal. He explained that if you didn’t cook ’em, you could get a tapeworm. Anyway, during on his outing, he had to climb a tree, to avoid a herd of Javelinas. I’m thinking, to hell with grasshoppers, get some BBQ!

          • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 3:11 pm #

            Eating meat is how we rose to the top of the food chain. There are other ways to consume protein but nothing compares to animal flesh.

          • toktomi November 1, 2021 at 3:12 pm #


            Musings about barter in a future grid down scenario have been long been a staple of the doomer class. Personally, been that, done there.

            Care to add some insights that might lend any credibility to your views? Specifically, what would possess anyone to trade away calories and nutrients? – salt, on a very limited basis, perhaps.’

            I must confess, OG, I am not at all interested in your seemingly ill-formed opinions on longer term survival. I’m merely secretly tempted by the opportunity to tease you down one of your well-beaten paths of self contradiction.

            You can begin by describing the scenario where you are standing around with buckets of whey surrounded by starving bug eaters.
            “Oh, boys, where are all the white women?”
            “Oh, boys, we gonna eat his nasty ass self or his whey first?”


          • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 3:56 pm #

            Care to add some insights that might lend any credibility to your views? Specifically, what would possess anyone to trade away calories and nutrients?

            Why … the exact same reason as every other transaction for millenia, Tiktok: Supply & Demand.

            “Man does not live by bread alone.”

            I would trade calories and nutrients if I had a surplus (which I am purchasing today). So would you, you arrogant, pompous, presumptive mental midget.

            your seemingly ill-formed opinions on longer term survival.

            I never mentioned “longer[-]term survival.” You did while being continually so very condescending in your strawman building and Bad assumption that you are smarter than me when it’s not even close.

            You can begin by describing the scenario where you are standing around with buckets of whey surrounded by starving bug eaters.

            I never said that I’d be “standing around with buckets of whey” but you argue in a series of lameass strawmen. FYI – It is tiresome and doubly so with your arrogance.

            My scenario starts with the simple premise that, in a crisis, having Supply is Good while having Demand is Bad. I would rather, in the Fall of 2021, have more protein-rich whey powder and less bank digits on account (pardon the pun) of my expectations for the future because I Believe that bank digits will be useless while I know that protein-rich whey powder will keep people both alive and away from starving canalbolism.

            Ain’t nobody going to eat bank digits, Tiktok. Never have. Never will. We all know that.

            Yes, security will be a major issue. Yes, I will only survive this mess via the grace of God. But having supplies is WAY Better than not having supplies. D’uh!

            Quite simple, Really.


            You keep assuming that I am Wrong. People have done that my whole life while I kept being repeatedly being Right over and over and over again. TruStory

          • tresho November 1, 2021 at 7:21 pm #

            he had to climb a tree, to avoid a herd of Javelinas. Javelinas will bear grudges if you kill part of their group. I read a fascinating story about a couple of javelina hunters in Texas who drove a pickup into the bush to kill javelinas. They killed a few with their rifles. The javelinas banded together and rushed the hunters. The hunters hid in the pickup, shot as many javelinas as they had bullets, but they ran out of ammo. The remaining javelinas couldn’t get to the hunters, but they did succeed in destroying all the rubber in all the truck’s tires. It was a very long time before the javelinas lost interest & left the area.

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 1, 2021 at 8:06 pm #

            OG – “…Tiktok…”

            OG – “…you arrogant, pompous, presumptive mental midget.”

            (The guy who accuses others of ad homs on a daily basis.)

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 1, 2021 at 8:24 pm #

            OG – I never said that I’d be “standing around with buckets of whey” but you argue in a series of lameass strawmen.

            You said you were going to the store load up on buckets of whey.

            I do not believe you understand what a strawman argument is.

            toktomi merely added the words “standing around”…that is called exaggeration, not a strawman.

            Strawman would be something like if he had said, “Whey protein powder? So you’re saying you support the horrible working conditions in China where that whey powder is packaged?”

            def: “…giving the impression of refuting an argument, whereas the real subject of the argument was not addressed or refuted, but instead replaced with a new and often false one.”

            Per usual, I don’t wake up each morning to to bust your balls, but you do enough of it that you deserve to be called on it once in a while.

            Enjoy your night, my friend!

            (that last statement ^^^ was not a strawman, just to clarify)

          • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 8:43 pm #

            @toktomi, thanks for being the first commenter to make me spew chardonnay on my keyboard tonight – hahahahaha!

          • Paula D November 1, 2021 at 9:07 pm #

            That’s what I was thinking, Tresho. Barbecue javelins?
            You and what army?

          • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 11:33 pm #

            @Mr M – I reply to your strawman / exaggeration confusion with a new thread downstream. Cheers!

        • malthuss November 2, 2021 at 12:06 am #

          I stopped making home pickles and kraut.
          too much work and spoilage.

          • anmariwakaranai November 2, 2021 at 12:42 am #

            Try the japanese way, quick pickles
            Super ez, super quick

      • SvrzoH November 1, 2021 at 3:03 pm #

        Thanks anm.
        Visual of the poem that one can actually eat.

        • anmariwakaranai November 2, 2021 at 12:40 am #

          You are welcome Svr!

      • Rulo Deschamps November 1, 2021 at 4:51 pm #


        thank you for that. Love pickled eggs. I’ll try it.

        One way I make the eggs last for a later day is to share them with others. True, some may take them now and have nothing to offer in the future. But some will. Things I can’t even think of right now.

        Keeping a small flock now (about 15 birds, incl a couple roosters) as I don’t need much and we’re not doing markets. But we can make chicks any time we want to, inclubator or broody hen. Only reason I keep the damn roosters that wake me up way before the sun’s up!

        A few hens are a must as part of a self sufficient lifestyle. Of course there’s no need for a male for egg production, and even in an urban setting, most can get away with hens only. Complaints are usually caused by roosters, hens are not very loud.

        • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 6:47 pm #

          If you have more than one rooster, don’t they fight all the time? Or do they eventually work out their issues, sort of like prison convicts?

          • Rulo Deschamps November 1, 2021 at 7:06 pm #

            Not if they grow up together.

            They sort out the pecking order early.

            They fight to the death if you introduce a new full grown one.

            I’m sure there’s a lesson there.

        • anmariwakaranai November 2, 2021 at 12:47 am #

          Up here people loan out their roosters so most chicken farms don’t suffer the wake up call.
          But Rulo, that rooster is waking you up for lauds, or matins, or one of the ‘hours’.

          • anmariwakaranai November 2, 2021 at 12:47 am #

            Add dill for more flavour flave

      • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 9:53 pm #

        How much: Water, vinegar, and salt?

        • anmariwakaranai November 2, 2021 at 12:48 am #

          NO WATER.
          i just eyeball the rest. A big handful of salt for a gallon of vinegar

      • Anthea November 2, 2021 at 9:42 am #

        I usually can a lot of soups in the fall–and also chili–so that I’ll have a lot of convenient meals on hand over winter: vegetable soup made with either chicken or beef, black bean soup (serve with rice, for “black beans and rice”), French onion soup, and posole. Posoli is a hominy soup you can make with either pork of chicken, seasoned with a couple of jars of Herdez salsa verde (must be Herdez or it will come out tasting like crap), a little can or two green chiles, a lot of garlic, some onion, and cilantro and lime juice. This stuff kicks ass.

        Lately I’ve been canning a lot of chicken broth, as this is easily converted into chicken noodle soup, chicken and rice soup, or chicken soup with red lentils–or whatever. I highly recommend matzoh ball soup. Store-bought chicken broth taste like water. Chicken broth made with Walmart chickens also tastes like water, so you have to buy the chickens from a store that sells good meats, or from a health food store.

        Most of this type of canning for winter is done by making a huge pot of soup or chili, eating some of it for dinner, and canning the rest of it after dinner.

        People in my area can food like crazy. My daughter’s house has a small room off the kitchen that is her pantry for canned goods. It is not unusual for people around here to tell you they canned 100-300 quarts of tomatoes over the summer.

        • anmariwakaranai November 2, 2021 at 2:53 pm #

          I am such a mess that I stick to veg in the canning dept.
          But salsa verde? Datz da bomb!

          • anmariwakaranai November 3, 2021 at 4:52 pm #

            7 eggz

        • pranah November 3, 2021 at 2:48 am #

          Anthea, it all sounds yum!

          I’ve only canned applesauce (labor-intensive but oh, so good), pickled beets (to die for), and chutney. Prepared the chutney in a big pot, stirring with a big wooden spoon and trying to keep my face away from the stinging steam coming off the hellish brew. Onions, garlic, hot peppers, the works. Damn, it was pungent. Jarred it in Ball jars and did the hot water bath. Yield: about a thousand half pints. Gave some to my folks. Dad, being adventurous, took a great spoonful and nodded his approval. Mom, not known to be adventurous with hot stuff, took a spoonful and said, “That’s pretty good.” Sister took a small spoonful, gagged, choked, and spat it out on the floor.


    • WilbursHuman November 1, 2021 at 1:43 pm #

      “Libraries will be overrun…valuable information on paper. What a concept”

      Fricken Libraries every wheres are discarding books, like there is No tomorrow

      I’ve spent yrs building My own……

      Something warned me about this, 30+ yrs ago

      • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 2:18 pm #

        Good job, WH. You are correct. Digits can be lost forever. Digits can be stored in formats that make them no longer accessible.*

        Hard-copy is True archive. Hard-copy can be found by archeologists millennia from now. Hard-copy is king.

        When the digits go away, archeologists will find that the 1960s and 1970s have more robust recorded history than do the 2010s.

        *I have a trove of WordPerfect 5.0 documents that I cannot access. They are private, personal and, therefore, were password protected (in 1989 & 1990).

        Newer versions of MS-Word will read WP5.0 documents but will not unlock them if password protected – even though I do know the password.

        • WilbursHuman November 1, 2021 at 2:37 pm #

          Thats Right OG !!!!!

          I have everything from animal husbandry (1930’s and earlier)

          to all the trades including masonry, welding, mechanical, you name it

          I gots it. Even settin up and running a circle saw mill, which I did

          and sawed all my own lumber, 15 yrs ago.

          As the old people would ask in the early last century..

          Can you birth a calf, milk a fresh cow, harness a horse, trim its feet,

          And hook to a plow and plow ground….

          can you use a forge and or a welder, fix the tractor, doctor the sick animals,

          Build a fire in the cook-stove and then cook a meal on it ??

          grow a garden, cook the wood chuck that was eatin it, can and preserve your food………

          How many, can anyone here, answer yes too ???

          • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 2:46 pm #

            Right. I go to Safeway for my food. I will be Hoping to join others with these lost survival abilities and knowledge as we try to muddle through.

            Your library will be invaluable, WH.

            May I suggest (and you are probably already there) cultural hard-copy as well?

            Shakespeare, Keats, Steinbeck, Hemmingway, Atwood, etc.


            We must feed our brains as well as our tummies.

            Feed your head
            – Jefferson Airplane

          • toktomi November 1, 2021 at 3:20 pm #


            In a world made by hand such as you have mentioned might be well workable.

            For the stone ages, not nearly as valuable.

            How are your seed-saving skillS and your heirloom seed supplies? Have you grown any potatoes or garlic from seed or bulbils [respectively] lately?

            Preparation is an illusion that many of us have never given up on – kinda like reality.

            good luck


          • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 4:15 pm #


            Preparing for an impending crisis is therapeutic compared to not preparing for an impending crisis. It serves purpose on that aspect alone.

            “It is Better to have and not need something than to need and not have it.”


            It appears that you are arguing that … what? We should not prepare because we can’t possibly prepare enough? Is that what you are saying?

            I am not putting words in your mouth or building strawmen for you. Only mental midget assholes do that. I am smply seeking clarity of what you’re on about.

          • WilbursHuman November 1, 2021 at 4:51 pm #

            In a world made by hand such as you have mentioned might be well workable.

            For the stone ages, not nearly as valuable………..

            For a select few ……. there will be little problem…

            Horse drawn machinery, is “almost” indestructible,

            Good tools, last almost forever, there is little reason to revert back to the “stone Age”

            “How are your seed-saving skillS and your heirloom seed supplies? Have you grown any potatoes or garlic from seed or bulbils [respectively] lately”?

            I answered this last weekend, but it got lost somewhere out there

            my “heirloom” seeds, reside in the freezer, 3 “units” of 88 day , open pollinated seed corn are put away…….

            700 lbs of 50 plus year old wheat reside in steel barrels….

            The book, “Saving seeds”, resides on my book shelf……….

            Been living, the life, for many years.

            All those things I mentioned above………..

            yup, been there, done it

          • WilbursHuman November 1, 2021 at 4:58 pm #

            “Your library will be invaluable, WH.

            May I suggest (and you are probably already there) cultural hard-copy as well?

            Shakespeare, Keats, Steinbeck, Hemmingway, Atwood, etc.


            Been workin on that too OG, even have ” complete, bible commentary”

            Hey, who knows, I enjoyed his take on it all……

            Steinbeck was one of my favorites too !!!!

            There are very few subjects not covered, its amazing that people don’t realize

            What they are doing by discarding these

          • WilbursHuman November 1, 2021 at 5:00 pm #

            Should read

            “Mathew Henry’s, complete bible commentary”

          • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 6:49 pm #

            What happens if you go to the library and all you find is a drag queen with a story book?

          • Anthea November 2, 2021 at 9:51 am #

            “The Good Life,” by Helen and Scott Nearing, is a good place to start, for self-sufficiency skills. They were socialists and eugenicists, but that was stylish back in the 1930s. Most of the “intellectuals” of the time were. Except Nock–one of the few people who did not lose his head in those heady times.

          • WilbursHuman November 2, 2021 at 11:26 am #

            @ Anthea

            I had read their work yrs ago and had actually forgotten about them !!

            The foxfire series are another good set of books too…

            As well as the bible of homesteaders…. Carla Emory’s
            ” The Encyclopedia of Country Living”

            all in my library.

      • Rulo Deschamps November 1, 2021 at 4:57 pm #


        yes! I stop by thrift stores when I go to town, and add to my collection. Nobody wants books anymore, so the go for a quarter or two apiece – good books! I go for both literature and practical tomes, medicine, gardening, home repair, engineering, carpentry, electrical.

        Of course the wife gives me a hard look – where are we going to put all those? I’ll keep lining the walls with shelves. Our small house will be walls of books. You can never have enough of them.

        • WilbursHuman November 1, 2021 at 5:04 pm #

          Never ever tooo many books Rulo !!!!!!!!!

          I have a bunch from the fifties on “Do it yourself home repair/building”, you name it…..

          They came like sets of encyclopedias……

          Always like building things, bought my first book on log cabin building when I was a young boy (A lonnng time ago)

        • Anthea November 2, 2021 at 10:01 am #

          My personal passion is soap making. Right now I make soap to sell, so it looks like the Crown Jewels of Austria and is scented with the fanciest fragrances, and loaded up with mango butter, shea butter, and cocoa buttere. My last batch was scented with a dupe of Armani Code, done in molds of the Green Man, the Great Wave of Tanagawa, and classic ovals. (You can see I’m really into this.) They were colored gold.

          But I can make soap with lard and lye, if it comes to that. I’ll figure out the part where you make lye from wood ashes.

    • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 2:38 pm #

      The person with twenty chickens in his backyard will be a local hero.

      No. He/she will be an over-ran crime victim that won’t get a single one of the 40 drum-sticks.

      • Rulo Deschamps November 1, 2021 at 5:00 pm #

        OG, it all depends where you live. And what kinds of neighbors, and what relationships you’ve built with them, and how densely or sparsely populated the area, and how many others also homestead. Many factors.

        • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 7:13 pm #

          Of course, Rulo.

          Local hero? Not likely.

          Your very Best friend since Kindergarten is less than a week from stealing your chickens.

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 1, 2021 at 7:29 pm #

            I’ll give you that, OG.

            I’ll try to be more prosaic next time.

      • malthuss November 2, 2021 at 12:12 am #

        you missed trip ticket, our urban homesteader. he was here 10? years ago.

        he was a liberal, moved to Macon Ga [he thought he was so smart].
        The blacks drove him out.

        • Rulo Deschamps November 2, 2021 at 1:46 am #

          malthuss, never move in a black area if you’re not. Basic street smarts.

        • messianicdruid November 3, 2021 at 3:51 pm #

          He could listen to plants.

    • JohnAZ November 1, 2021 at 2:54 pm #

      Maybe we will be better off when our main concern is food and shelter, instead of computer code.

      • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 4:24 pm #

        Maybe, JAZ. It depends what you mean by “better off.”

    • Rulo Deschamps November 1, 2021 at 5:20 pm #

      Mr Mango, yes! Agree with you. Important to avoid over-complexity. The more gadgets and gizmos, the more things can go wrong, things you don’t know how to fix.

      Very true observation: impossible to know how to cope with every kind of need – but very possible to build relationships with those with different skills now, while there’s still time. Give, always give – time, produce, seeds, anything you’re good at. You will receive.

      Also, have a good collection of technical books. Nobody wants books anymore, so they are cheap at thrift stores.

    • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 6:03 pm #

      This is why I learned to grow food, 2 years ago. And in just one summer, I have quite the bounty! I also learned some pickling, some canning, and oh so much more.

      I am already a jack of all trades type, so I’m hoping to be able to be employed no matter what. We shall see.

      • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 6:52 pm #

        I can bake bread. Wanna get married?

        • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 8:50 pm #


          • Anthea November 2, 2021 at 10:09 am #

            My plan, if times get tough and I can’t afford baking soda, is to open a whorehouse and a juke joint combo. (Okay, I’m joking.) One of my now-deceased old friends always said that was his dream for making it through tought times. I said, “Mike that kind of business is the backbone of a local economy.”

      • Rulo Deschamps November 2, 2021 at 1:44 am #

        if you’re good growing, offer garden setup biz, Mary. you can make a good living.

        • Anthea November 2, 2021 at 10:10 am #

          The smart money is always at the supplier end, rather than the manufacturing end of anything.

        • MaryQueen November 3, 2021 at 10:17 pm #

          I love the work, that’s for sure. Something to think about. Thanks, Rulo.

  36. Ed Haskell November 1, 2021 at 12:55 pm #

    Mr. Kunstler,

    “The net effect would be a nation bankrupt at all levels and that will segue into an epic economic depression.”

    I wonder why China & others are buying so much gold.

    Let’s Go Brandon!

    • SpeedyBB November 4, 2021 at 4:48 pm #

      Ed Haskell –

      Do you perhaps remember the mid-1980s (I recall – not too far off in any case) when central banks around the planet were screaming about having to go to the trouble and pay good money to store precious metals?

      “What are we doing? Is this Babylonia? Who in the world is going to need gold bullion?”

      I remember very clearly in the 1970s when the price of gold was burbling around the $270 ~ $300 / oz. level and I thought very hard about buying bullion, just for the hell of it. But I was a guy on the move, and precious metal is more or less immovable (as the Germans found out, to their sorrow, when they attempted to repatriate theirs from the American banks, where they had stashed it for ‘safekeeping’ [cue sad laugh track]).

      Attitudes toward the nature of money have certainly shifted in the past couple of decades. Indians and Chinese, however, have had their eye on the ball, at least when it comes to hanging onto, and grasping at more, bullion. They’re no fools.

  37. MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 1:01 pm #

    Your Monday Funny from bad cattitude:



    Like JHK, cat calls them Jacobins.

    • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 1:10 pm #

      And here’s a link to Carl’s actual tweet, including because the responses are hilarious:


    • Beryl of Oyl November 1, 2021 at 1:11 pm #

      The comments about masks reminded me- there was a letter in the paper a week or so ago, directed at a local business, telling them to take down the “idiotic” tape they had up to enforce one-way aisles.

      That cheered me.

      • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 2:10 pm #

        During the height of the madness, I had one woman stop on the sidewalk (as if she was a car at a stop sign) in order to let me pass even though she could have passed before I got there. But I wasn’t passing but turning right, right past her. I looked deeply into her foolish face as I passed. She felt silly because she was silly.

        And of course the all kind of people walking into the street to get the minimum six feet, turning away on trails, or desperately donning masks, etc. I remember the young woman because of the bizarre mechanical behavior she adopted – like the one way aisles.

        • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 1, 2021 at 2:33 pm #

          Yeah, of course it was quite strange for most people that first few days, or even weeks, depending on ones worldview.

          I remember the first time I paid a clerk with cash on day one of “lockdown”. I just kind of held it out and said, “Do you want this directly, or should I set it on the counter?”

          He just shrugged and said, “I don’t know. Whichever.”

          But out for a run or a walk it was strange seeing people cross the street if other people were coming their direction. It’s called outside, folks. Never saw anyone stop and wait for someone to pass though…

        • 100th Avatar November 1, 2021 at 4:09 pm #

          Maybe she was overcome with sudden pangs of lust with that intense passionate stare and all?

          • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 8:51 pm #


      • Hereward the Woke November 1, 2021 at 5:03 pm #

        Beryl: my son just showed me a photo of our town post office. They’ve got a giant anti-vaxx discrimination poster up inside. Maybe things are slowly a-changing.

  38. toktomi November 1, 2021 at 1:47 pm #


    per: “industry no longer makes money”.

    Has not this business model been the norm for some many years?
    I view Elon Musk as the epitome of this most successful of current models.

    more data points [pixels, if you will] in the big picture:

    Tho’ I’ve never in the past been much of fan of Michael Snyder
    [too shrill, too extreme, & too religious] –


    To summarize many of my opinions, a kindred doomer:
    “The fact that people think this is anything other than a hoax to vaccinate [lethally inject] the world with whatever is in those shots is an incredible testament to just how dumbed-down human beings have become.”


    • BackRowHeckler November 1, 2021 at 2:44 pm #

      Huh, maybe this is why Rivian, EV truck manufacturer out of Indiana, a company which has never sold a truck and is about $2 billion in debt, had its company value assessed at $80 billion prior to its upcoming IPO.

      With a base price of about $72,000, I wonder how many trucks they’ll actually sell?

      • 100th Avatar November 1, 2021 at 3:07 pm #

        They’re not for the little people.

  39. oswegatchie November 1, 2021 at 2:19 pm #

    Well, if they can’t presently jump out of a window on Wall St., maybe they can at least jump out of a window at home and at least sprain an ankle or break their neck? Always think positive!

  40. amb November 1, 2021 at 2:59 pm #

    I believe that Mr. K is on the right track. His projections are reality-based and display an intelligent insight.

    One point I do want to make, is this: As of the early 1930s, we are no longer on a gold standard, and as of 1971 the international gold window was closed. No person, country or government can ever obtain gold for their USD from the Treasury or Fed Reserve ever again. Many people still think with and use all the principles of a gold standard in their calculations and projections. Big mistake. You can’t think like this any longer, you can’t compare our government to the economics of a household (that is apples and oranges, since households don’t have printing presses).

    The USA will never have hyper-inflation (the actual definition of hyper-inflation is that the currency of a country is totally worthless, examples being Weimar Germany, Argentina, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, etc.). If a country, such as the USA, is the monopoly issuer of the currency–in other words, has a printing press–they can NEVER run out of money to pay “debt”, etc. The countries that experienced actual hyper-inflation, unlike the USA, didn’t have a stable bond market, had debt in other currencies, and didn’t have an infrastructure of natural resources and production capacity.

    As long as a capitalist economy such as that in the USA is extant, and has the opportunity to balance production of products/services with the money supply, it can survive and grow. Thus, if an administration comes into power that is smart enough to follow the America First agenda (supporting small business in every way possible, building an infrastructure that supports business and thus prosperity, etc.) and bring US capacity up into the zones of 70% and moving higher, we would not have inflation. This country has incredible potential for capacity, productivity, etc. It just needs to be taken out of the hands of globalists/marxists and other corrupt and interfering entities, and run by people who understand economics and actually have the well-being and future of the USA in mind.

    In other words, the only way this country will survive is if its government, NGO and other institutions, media, etc. are purged of all hostile and destructive elements. They are deeply embedded and have been working intently 24/7, for decades to obtain and maintain power and enact their agenda. They are immoral, evil and will stop at nothing. Thus, what is required, the ONLY solution, is… revolution.

    • Rulo Deschamps November 1, 2021 at 4:31 pm #


      good observations. An often overlooked fact is the appetite of the world for US dollars. I’m very familiar with one of the hyperinflation countries you mention, and you are spot on – the population runs to buy dollars at every sign of trouble. Billions, trillions, taken out of circulation and stashed in mattresses, all over the world. Not an insignificant fact.

      • amb November 1, 2021 at 4:43 pm #

        Right Rulo. Another thing that people don’t understand is that… global trade has a very small percentage of USD use. This fear that Russia, China, etc. are setting up their own systems for trade, energy purchases, etc. is really insignificant. The huge majority of the global capital that moves around (the “electronic herd” searching for safe vehicles and returns) is all in USD. It’s only safe currency. And the US has the largest bond market on the planet, and will always be considered the safe haven for capital.

        Another erroneous understanding… is that US Treasuries are our debt; the US debt. It isn’t. USA isn’t in debt to anyone. We have never borrowed in another currency. We don’t owe any debt to China, etc. The treasury market is just the biggest, safe, bank account on the planet (all kept by the Fed Reserve). It is where governments, funds, individuals keep their money. US gov doesn’t have to, yet, they pay a little coupon interest on the bills, notes, and bonds. The current 28T is not “government debt”. It is the assets of all non-government institutions and individuals. You can also look at it as the amount of money since the start of the US gov that the gov hasn’t taken back as tax revenue. There is no danger in this. People don’t understand our monetary and fiscal system and policies and how it all works. They are freaking out because they think from a “gold standard” orientation.

      • SpeedyBB November 4, 2021 at 9:45 pm #

        Rulo –

        Long ago I gave up on trying to awaken businesspeople with whom I’d become friendly – or who were my valued clients – as to the precariousness of the Gringo Peso. They were not only not interested; it was as though I was speaking some arcane tongue.

        This includes the hard-nosed, alert, eternally wary ethnic Chinese, whom it is most trying to attempt to fool. Smart as they are, they cannot see through Uncle Sam’s gauzy curtain.

        All through Asia, in spite of all the helicopter wildness from Washington and the trillions spilt merrily in military adventures, the locals admire, nay worship the greenback.

        It is sobering to talk to a local multi-millionaire and observe how blithely he elides over all the troubles and ignores all warning signs.

        What an awakening awaits these fellows. I’m even tempted to attempt to sell them a bridge or two.

  41. stelmosfire November 1, 2021 at 3:03 pm #

    You folks. weed, shrooms, LSD. cacti. been there, done that.booze is the killer. Masslivedestruction.org OKn thats fake news.

    ok I I quit weed years ago.

    • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 4:22 pm #

      I quit weed days ago.

      • Rulo Deschamps November 1, 2021 at 4:37 pm #

        stelmo’s, OG,

        no weed: a blessing in disguise.

        One toke every blue moon when a friend shares is a thousand times more powerful and vision-inducing that a daily wake n bake routine.

        Seeds in the freezer can get the production re-started if necessary. No need to indulge often.

        • WilbursHuman November 1, 2021 at 5:08 pm #

          Yep !!!!!!!!!!!!

          “One toke every blue moon when a friend shares is a thousand times more powerful and vision-inducing that a daily wake n bake routine”.

          This times 10,000

        • stelmosfire November 1, 2021 at 5:12 pm #

          Rulo. roger dat.

        • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 7:10 pm #

          Absolutely. Daily wake n bake turns it from a pleasurable occasionsl diversion to a habit much like cigarettes.

        • Blackbird November 2, 2021 at 9:09 pm #

          Most of the young potheads I know spend more on weed than anything else – rent, heat, food – except maybe tattoos. They “medicate” so much that they don’t even get high anymore. Burning off their present with disregard for their future – which, admittedly, at this point kinda looks like shit anyway.

          But like everyone who belongs up here, they are heavily armed and will take a toll on those Somali and Pakistani Peacekeepers.

    • toktomi November 1, 2021 at 4:26 pm #


      Well, I would say, you’ve met your prerequisite life-requirement of at least one dose of lysergic.

      A locked mind in terrible thing to waste.
      Long live collaborative thinking and the synergism of consensus among the diverse.

      Been that and hope to never be done there.

      There’s been many time that I have mused, “I need to do some new indept pondering of this thing or that. Time to light up.”

      Can’t speak to psilocybin or mescaline. I’ve read that raw opium is a conscious lady of immaculate caress of the soul, but not to be trifled with.

      We were once labeled during those days of the flower children as “freaks”. I have since proudly worn that as a medal of honor. I am a freak, perhaps “blissfully ignorant and proud of it”.


    • SpeedyBB November 4, 2021 at 9:52 pm #

      Elmo (name of my old 16mm Nip projector),

      Linky stinky. I also tried MassliveRdestruction.org, ’cause I thought maybe you’d left out an ‘R’.

      Neither, beaver. Ixnay. Cannot find it.

      PS I agree with you. Smoking is a calculated risk (for instance). Ditto for the psychedelics (noting that Timothy “Weary of” Leary died of cancer).

      Drinking, on the other hand, is downhill all the way. You’ll occasionally bump into a George Burns, firing up his stogies at 100 years of age.

      But you ain’t gonna meet no centenarian drinkers. They’re lucky if they hit 80.

  42. wwg1wga November 1, 2021 at 3:14 pm #


  43. stelmosfire November 1, 2021 at 3:22 pm #

    Just in case ya missed it Vlad:

    Jarek November 1, 2021 at 1:13 pm #

    But could you catch a fly with your chopsticks? Or see the rings of Saturn with your naked eye? The Japanese Pilots could – at first. Later they couldn’t even land, no need. Later still, they couldn’t even make it to the American ships to crash into them. Entropy.

    stelmosfire November 1, 2021 at 3:15 pm #

    C’mon Vlad ,the rings of Saturn with the naked eye? I swallow some of your shit but you have gone too far. I seriously doubt that claim. I’ m calling bullshit on that one..

    • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 6:31 pm #

      Maybe it was the moons of Jupiter. You don’t say anything about catching flies with chopsticks, so I assume you can do that.

      • hmuller November 1, 2021 at 6:57 pm #

        Maybe it was Uranus in a mirror coming out of the shower. LOL

        • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 8:53 pm #


          • stelmosfire November 2, 2021 at 9:06 am #

            Well actually it was two mirrors facing each other. I was treated ad infinitum. Fat white ass for miles.

      • SpeedyBB November 4, 2021 at 10:16 pm #

        I feel impelled to observe here that the airmanship of Japanese fighter pilots began a steep decline, following the debacle of Midway in mid-1942 (barely six months after Uncle declared War on the Empire). By 1945 they were training pilots in bamboo models and could not really afford the aviation fuel to give them more than a few hours of flight time before sending them off on their heavenward journey (with an abrupt smacking-into-the-carrier stage).

        It was cruel, watching them all dolled up in their flight suits and goggles, toasting each other with a glass of water (Japanese still don’t do that, for just that reason) before getting welding into their cockpits and heading off on their doomed missions.

        A classic case of “You wouldn’t send up a kid in a crate like that”.

        “Oh yes we would.”

        (“Crate”, not “clate”).

  44. gulag November 1, 2021 at 3:34 pm #

    Jim’s perspective that he “…doubts that any sort of extreme government surveillance state can be imposed on the public under these conditions…” is really worth a more in-depth discussion.

    First, I hope he is right.

    However, it may also be the case that the power disparities between the average citizen and national security state apparatus have now become too great (for example the fact that the NSA has had operational for at least 7 years a data-base called Mainway that is preconfigured to map any of our lives at a touch of a button) means clamp-down instruments are in place, operational and already being used).

    If growth collapses, financial crisis accelerates. and social break-down expands I have little doubt that more and more “extreme government surveillance” will become the operational norm.

    Can “Lets Go Brandon” chants be turned into some type of real counter-move against such embedded power?

  45. 100th Avatar November 1, 2021 at 3:40 pm #

    “What about all that money (capital) flowing into technology: Facebook, Google, Amazon?”

    Amazon makes AWS and its cloud.
    They make information. They make the ether that holds the information.

    thegrayzone dot com:

    “As the military surveillance firm and NATO contractor Thales recently put it, vaccine passports “are a precursor to digital ID wallets.”

    And as the CEO of iProove, a biometric ID company and Homeland Security contractor, emphasized to Forbes, “The evolution of vaccine certificates will actually drive the whole field of digital ID in the future. So, therefore, this is not just about Covid, this is about something even bigger.”

    For the national security state, digital immunity passports promise unprecedented control over populations wherever such systems are implemented. Ann Cavoukian, the former privacy commissioner of Ontario, Canada has described the vaccine passport system already active in her province as “a new, inescapable web of surveillance with geolocation data being tracked everywhere.”

    For tech oligarchs such Bill Gates and neoliberal institutions such as the World Economic Forum, digital ID and digital currency systems have already enabled the extraction of unbelievable profits in the Global South, where hundreds of millions of people remain “unbanked” and therefore outside the sphere of electronic payments systems.”

    “New York City offers a glimpse of the program in store for the rest of the country. The city’s “Key to NYC” requirement, which went into effect September 13, requires proof of vaccination to work at or attend indoor dining, indoor fitness, and entertainment venues like museums, stadiums, arcades, and theaters.”

    “While a state-mandated treadmill of boosters may seem unappealing to many, if not outright hellish, for others the nightmare presents the opportunity of a lifetime. As early as May 2020, only seven weeks after the pandemic was declared, US tech billionaire Bill Gates predicted that “eventually we will have some digital certificates to show who has recovered or been tested recently or when we have a vaccine who has received it.”

    The Gates Foundation recently helped fund a WHO paper providing “implementation guidance” for proof of vaccination certifications across the world. The authors crafted the paper alongside the Rockefeller Foundation and with guidance from several high-level representatives of the World Bank.

    According to Foreign Affairs, “few policy initiatives or normative standards set by the WHO are announced before they have been casually, unofficially vetted by Gates Foundation staff.” Or, as other sources told Politico in 2017, “Gates’ priorities have become the WHO’s.”

    Also at the forefront of the shift to digital credentials is the World Economic Forum (WEF). “The Forum is involved in the WHO task force to reflect on those [vaccine credential requirements] standards and think about how they would be used,” reads a May WEF article.

    “On paper, the WEF (also known as the International Organization for Public-Private Cooperation) is an NGO and think tank “committed to improving the state of the world.” In reality, it is an international network of some of the wealthiest and most influential people on the planet. The Forum positions itself as the thought leader of global capitalism.”

    “The latest version of Apple’s iOS, iOS 15, even includes SMART Health Card support. In January 2021, several WEF partners, including Microsoft, Oracle, Salesforce, and several other “heavyweights,” announced a partnership to launch the Vaccine Credential Initiative (VCI) to develop digital immunization authentication tools, according to Forbes. Aiming to institute a single “SMART Health Card” for the world, the VCI intends for its SMART Health Cards to be recognized “across organizational and jurisdictional boundaries.”

    ““Digital identification is key to inclusive growth,” claimed McKinsey, the global consulting firm, in 2019.

    “Something like 1 billion people could be more financially included and participative,” said Mike Kubzansky, managing partner of Ebay founder and media mogul Pierre Omidyar’s Omidyar Network during a WEF panel exploring how “Digital Identification Provides a Significant Opportunity for Value Creation.”

    Like Gates, Omidyar is heavily invested in the advancement of digital ID and currency systems through his Omidyar Network, which collaborates with the World Economic Forum on the Good ID initiative.”

    and on, and on, and on…

    What do they produce?
    They produce YOU, upon demand.
    They produce your shackles
    They produce your “freedom”.

    • 100th Avatar November 1, 2021 at 3:51 pm #

      and on and on and..
      “US privacy advocates have pointed to digital national identity programs like Aadhaar as gargantuan surveillance tools that establish the basis for a social credit system.

      Addressing the US House Committee on Financial Services in July 2021, Elizabeth Renieris of Notre-Dame’s Technology Ethics Lab warned, “The Aadhaar number in India is able to track your activity across all facets of your life, from employment to healthcare, to school, to pretty much everything you do. You can’t retain autonomy over specific domains of your life. You can’t separate your personal and professional reputation. You can’t have this kind of contextualized personal identity. I think that’s really problematic.”

      “We must avoid building digital identity systems and infrastructure in a way that further expands and entrenches the surveillance state, as does the national identity system in India,” Renieris continued.

      But it is the all-encompassing social credit aspect of Aadhaar that has made Gates so fond of the system.

      Addressing India’s top policy makers in 2016, the world’s second wealthiest man declared, “Over time, all of these transactions create a footprint and so when you go in for credit, the ability to access the history that you’ve paid your utility bills on time, that you’ve saved up money for your children’s education, all of those things in your digital trail, accessed in an appropriate way allow the credit market to [score the risk properly].“

      and on and on and on

      “Two days before anti-Green Pass protests exploded across Italy, the renowned philosopher Giorgio Agamben appeared before the Italian Senate’s Constitutional Affairs Commission to issue a dramatic statement of opposition to the Green Pass.

      Agamben is most famous for his concept of Homo Sacer, or bare life, in which an individual is stripped of rights and reduced to their biological essence in an extra-legal regime justified by war or other emergencies. When Italian authorities declared the first lockdown in March 2020, the philosopher applied the theory to his own country’s heavy-handed restrictions.

      “The defining feature…of this great transformation that they are attempting to impose is that the mechanism which renders it formally possible is not a new body of laws, but a state of exception – in other words, not an affirmation of, but the suspension of constitutional guarantees,” the philosopher explained in the foreword to his collection of 2020 writings on Covid-19, “Where Are We Now: The Epidemic As Politics,”

      In his remarks before the Italian Senate, Agamben pointed to a sinister agenda behind the official rationale for vaccine passports: “It has been said by scientists and doctors that the Green Pass has no medical significance in itself but serves to force people to get vaccinated. Instead, I think we must say the opposite: that the vaccine is a means of forcing people to have the Green Pass. That is, a device that allows individuals to be monitored and tracked, an unprecedented measure.”

      • 100th Avatar November 1, 2021 at 3:52 pm #

        And on to the point:

        “I believe that in this perspective,” Agamben warned, “it is more urgent than ever for parliamentarians to consider the political transformation underway, which in the long run is destined to empty parliament of its powers, reducing it to simply approving – in the name of bio-security – decrees emanating from organizations and people who have very little to do with parliament.”

        • 100th Avatar November 1, 2021 at 4:02 pm #

          Did you reread this crucial nugget? I’ll post it again:

          “Addressing India’s top policy makers in 2016, the world’s second wealthiest man declared, “Over time, all of these transactions create a footprint and so when you go in for credit, the ability to access the history that you’ve paid your utility bills on time, that you’ve saved up money for your children’s education, all of those things in your digital trail, accessed in an appropriate way allow the credit market to [score the risk properly].“

          Rearing children will be expensive and burdensome by design.
          At least for the working classes and lower middle-classes, the consumer classes (not producers), who tend to contribute to overpopulation in greater frequency.

          • 100th Avatar November 1, 2021 at 4:23 pm #

            And if you’re still on the fence about the reality or the likelihood of your very near-future, your essence distilled down to a QR code carried on your portable panopticon, this is not William Gibson’s fiction at work…


          • Paula D November 1, 2021 at 5:57 pm #

            Weird. My community radio is playing a James Corbett report on Bill Gates right now, and your quotes were just on the radio.
            I get this strange feeling of deja vu.
            This part gets me. Fauci said something similar..
            ” May 2020, only seven weeks after the pandemic was declared, US tech billionaire Bill Gates predicted that “eventually we will have some digital certificates to show who has recovered or been tested recently or when we have a vaccine who has received it.”
            Now they say everyone has to get the jab, whether they are already immune or not. Why? Because they monitor us and they realize that the vast majority of Americans are gullible and submissive idiots. Fauci said as much when asked why he raised the “scientific” level of herd immunity from 60% to 80% (and now 100%). He responded that he realized he could get away with it.
            I did a show on community radio talking about that Grayzone article.

          • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 6:19 pm #

            Great episode, Paula.

          • 100th Avatar November 1, 2021 at 7:03 pm #


            Submissive or powerless.
            Even those amongst us who can see through the “science” all the way to the ulterior motives are merely a wage garnishment, loan cancelation, travel privilege, commerce/remittance freezing away from tipping the first domino: the vaccine

            The first domino that ends in the crescendo of all aspects of your identity enmeshed in a virtual credit scheme:
            Travel documents
            Health records
            Police records
            Social media activity

            People lose their minds getting banned from Twatter or FaceCrook.

            Imagine when everything is canceled.
            Your QR code is not accepted due to your arrears on account of innumerable transgressions.

            What will these brittle people do?
            I know.
            They will be the first to conform.

          • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 8:55 pm #

            Pretty much what Paula said in her podcast. The PTB tested us and found that we cave easily – so that’s why now they are not even bothering to hide what they’re doing.

          • Paula D November 2, 2021 at 2:26 pm #

            Before the ACLU went woke, they did a good prediction of what our overlords have planned.

    • Disaffected November 1, 2021 at 5:46 pm #

      The herd’s being inventoried and catalogued prior to taking a large percentage to slaughter. Current human cattle market prices are lousy, but they plan on more than making up for that on volume. It’s industrial capitalism’s final hurrah. It produced things for human consumption as long as it could, now it’s turning to producing human consumers for consumption as its final act. This was always the plan.

      The digital IDs will also work much better once the population gets whittled down under 1B or so.

  46. FedUpWithBS November 1, 2021 at 3:46 pm #

    Our healthcare system is about to experience a tsunami! Potential side effects of jabs include chronic inflammation, because the vaccine continuously stimulates the immune system to produce antibodies. Other concerns include the possible integration of plasmid DNA into the body’s host genome, resulting in mutations, problems with DNA replication, triggering of autoimmune responses, and activation of cancer-causing genes. Alternative COVID cures exist. Ivermectin is one of them. While Ivermectin is very effective curing COVID symptoms, it has also been shown to eliminate certain cancers. Do not get the poison jab. Get your Ivermectin today while you still can! https://health.p0l.org

    • amb November 1, 2021 at 4:00 pm #

      Wait a few years, as those who got the vax will have a continuously degrading and unworkable immune system, and when “flu season” comes they will be dying by the hundreds of thousands, maybe millions.

      They’ll be dying from the vaccines, yet, this new tsunami of deaths will give the globalists another crisis in which to push and force the need for mandatory vax for EVERYONE, under the false concept that C19 and other viruses and bacteria are the source. Nope… the globalist agenda (aided by Big Pharma and the corporate media) is the source of all of these deaths and massive destruction to our country and its infrastructure.

      We either take these people out or they’ll take us out. Americans need to wake up and realize that it is either kill or be killed.

      • 100th Avatar November 1, 2021 at 4:16 pm #

        Nobody at the tippity-top really cares about the virus or the vax.

        Have you not noticed all the documented instances of our “leaders” and elites engaged in “rules for thee and not for me”?

        Time and time again.

        Because it’s not about the virus or the vaccine as much as it is about re-ordering the global order.

        About getting you in line, and most importantly, you knowing your place in it.

  47. Night Owl November 1, 2021 at 3:51 pm #

    Is anyone aware that “Joe Biden” is changing US requirements for entry as of Nov. 8?

    It would appear that no one outside of US citizens may enter the country if “unvaxed.”

    • Night Owl November 1, 2021 at 3:52 pm #

      Small correction: diplomats may also enter.

      My spouse cannot however. Separating families is for our health, I guess.

    • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 4:19 pm #

      Yes, I am aware (here in Canada) that USA will not allow unjabbed into their country. Travel to USA is VERY common for Canadians and things like this are very newsy on CBC’s The National.

    • Islander November 1, 2021 at 4:46 pm #

      Where did you isee this?

      And how can “Biden” do this unilaterally?

      • Night Owl November 1, 2021 at 7:53 pm #


        As of November 8, 2021, travel to the U.S. will only be permitted for individuals fully vaccinated and tested against COVID-19. For the time being, this applies exclusively to entry by air and thus to passengers departing from their foreign destination on Monday, November 8 as of 12:01 a.m. Eastern Standard Time (EST).
        For air travelers from Germany for instance, the new rule will thus take effect at 06:01 a.m. on November 8.

        The new regulation lists a very limited number of people who can travel to the United States without a full COVID-19 vaccination record, i.e., unvaccinated:

        U.S. citizens
        Green Card holders (= lawful permanent residents)
        diplomats, government officials or their family members (A-1, A-2, C-2, C-3, E-1 TECRO / TECO, G-1, G-2, G-3, G-4, NATO visas) and representatives of the United Nations
        crew members of airlines or shipping companies (C-1/D visas)
        members of the U.S. Armed Forces or their spouses and children (under age 18)
        children under the age of 18 (i.e., ages 0 to 17 at the time of travel)
        participants in certain COVID-19 vaccine studies (with official verification)
        individuals with an officially confirmed medical contraindication to COVID-19 vaccination
        individuals, with an official exemption from U.S. authorities based on a medical / humanitarian emergency
        NOTE: It is currently unclear on the basis of which exact exemption grounds, in what form, and with which U.S. authorities an exemption can be requested (possibly through U.S. consulates or U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP)).
        persons whose entry is in the national interest of the U.S. (including an official confirmation in this regard)
        NOTE: This is determined by the U.S. Department of State, U.S. Department of Homeland Security and U.S. Department of Transportation. However, it is unclear on what basis, in what form and with which U.S. authorities a confirmation can be requested (possibly through U.S. consulates or U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP)).
        citizens of countries with limited availability of COVID-19 vaccines who enter on a nonimmigrant visa (other than B-1, B-2, B-1/B-2 visas; see CDC’s country list).

    • benr November 1, 2021 at 7:10 pm #

      He says one thing today and another next week.
      Will he also stem the flow of illegal aliens?
      Is this for people coming in the front door or sneaking in the back and being ignored.

      • Night Owl November 1, 2021 at 7:59 pm #

        Well, I can now longer return home with my family in tow, it seems.

        I also fully expect that this will apply to US citizens if this nonsense continues, and it appears it will given the pathetic level of resistance within the government itself.

        When Rand Paul is more or less alone in resisting, and his primary argument is “natural immunity,” rather than the fact that all of this is entirely illegal, against the Nuremberg Codex, and being done with no vote whatsoever, I would say the outlook is rather bleak at present.

        • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 9:02 pm #

          If you do return to the US & want to settle down in a red state, Idaho’s housing insanity seems to have dwindled in a big way. My friend’s house (a fairly new one) went back down $100K or so in the past few months. I think our drought this summer, and Californians who don’t like the culture or winter weather (which is mild, compared to, say, the midwest) have gone back. I personally know one woman I met here who returned to CA because she was ‘bored’ and slightly cold, lol.

          I love it here & it’s a great place for nature lovers. Not a huge population, and lots of affordable places to live, still.

          • Night Owl November 2, 2021 at 10:00 am #

            I don’t see that happening unless someone stands up to this nonsense from “Joe Biden.”

            As of Nov. 8, my wife will no longer be allowed in, as she has not taken the swill.

          • MaryQueen November 2, 2021 at 10:32 am #

            That’s such utter bullshit!!

          • GreenAlba November 2, 2021 at 12:02 pm #

            45,000 Aussies still stranded and can’t get home …


            “To add insult to injury, while Aussies have been stranded abroad, the federal government has:

            – Facilitated the entry of thousands of migrant fruit pickers, with their quarantine costs subsidised by Australian taxpayers;

            – Granted entry to nearly 15,000 foreign millionaires under the controversial business innovation and investment visa schemes; and

            – The federal government’s skilled migration committee recommend “the Government reserve places on flights and in quarantine for skilled migrants”.

            The Morrison Government could have chartered flights whenever it wanted to bring Australians home. There are dozens of idle airplanes parked near Alice Springs:”

          • Paula D November 2, 2021 at 2:29 pm #

            15,000 millionaires have recently bought their way into Australia???
            What do they know that we don’t?

          • hmuller November 2, 2021 at 8:00 pm #

            I’ll bet a lot of those are Asians. I can see why someone would especially want to leave Hong Kong or Taiwan, and soon Meanwhile, the Indian subcontinent is full of people who would rather live somewhere else. We see them arriving in our towns.

      • crudgemudgeon November 2, 2021 at 2:23 am #

        Benr, exactly.. Will these immigrants be walking into dystopia, though, a bait and switch played on them, or will their ability to work under the table and create fake documents keep them safe? What can we learn from this? I think it’s time for us to learn how to be as scrupulous as ” undocumented” immigrants.

    • Ricechex November 2, 2021 at 11:56 pm #

      There is something about 8 Nov. Federal employees have to be either have their second jab by then. If not, the disciplinary time line begins on the 9th.

      • anmariwakaranai November 3, 2021 at 2:52 pm #

        I luv rice chex

  48. tom clark November 1, 2021 at 4:13 pm #

    I see some residents in the rural west are beginning to practice DIY (“mercenary”) firefighting…buying up old fire trucks, hoarding used firefighting equipment, and using social media to report small fires before they spread. Of course, firefighters unions would have none of this, insisting that letting citizens fight fires (on their own property no less) is dangerous.

    Perhaps now is the time to humbly remember that Aldo Leopold died of a heart attack (or was it covid?) fighting a fire on his Wisconsin farm in 1948.

  49. BackRowHeckler November 1, 2021 at 4:22 pm #

    Perusing this comments Section, I see not too many posters are concerned with the Climate Change Conference in Glasgow, which kicked off today.

    John Kerry — Captain Planet — call this conference the last best hope for mankind, the most important get together since Bretton Wood, New Hampshire in 1944.

    The future of humanity hangs in the balance, and nobody in CFNation gives a sh#t lol.

    • 100th Avatar November 1, 2021 at 4:30 pm #

      They truly believe that they’re going back to the late 19th century.
      Canning instructions.
      This is the level they’re engaged at.

      There is no supply-chain crisis.
      There is no shortage crisis.
      There is no energy crisis.

      Not legitimately.
      They are all manufactured.
      They are all levers of pressure.

      They will all push you into the 4IR
      the meta

      • O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 8:15 pm #

        A fella’s gotta eat.

    • amb November 1, 2021 at 4:31 pm #

      John Kerry is the one who should be hanging in the balance, if you get my drift. Many trees and lamp posts need to be decorated with criminals and politicians hanging from them like Xmas ornaments.

      • JohnAZ November 1, 2021 at 8:33 pm #

        The hair in search of a brain!

    • Islander November 1, 2021 at 4:50 pm #


      I suspect that many here are aware of COP26 (whatever that means). I am. But I can’t, frankly, be bothered by a lot of climate hoo=hah that, i ahve become convinced, is chapter 2 of the Covid hoax.

      Kerry et al. fly to Glasgow in their private jets and palaver about what the peons will be allowed to do. Then they fly home in their jets.

      Give me a break. I would be delighted to hear that all of the jets had been grounded as fossil-fuel fossils, and the “delegates”and honchos and honchas a la Greta had to figure out how to get home on their own.
      Maybe hike to Liverpool and catch a freighter.

      • BackRowHeckler November 1, 2021 at 7:23 pm #

        Hike to Liverpool, catch a freighter

        I like that image. I picture a black and white movie adopted from a lesser known Hemingway short story c1940, starring Sidney Greensteet and Humphrey Bogart in trenchcoats. They’re on foot from Glasgow, headed for Liverpool on a foggy night, on the run from Nazi assassins lol.

        • hmuller November 2, 2021 at 8:09 pm #

          There has to be a mysterious, beautiful woman who isn’t telling all she knows to anyone. Not yet at least. But Bogart makes her swoon with big, sloppy kisses reeking of coffee and tobacco (considered sexy and appealing back then).

    • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 6:16 pm #

      I mentioned it a couple of times in a joking way because who can take that bullshit seriously?

      Except for they are plotting our next lockdown… due to ‘climate change’.

      • GreenAlba November 1, 2021 at 9:03 pm #

        Talking of jokes …


        Maybe you’ve seen it already. It made me laugh anyway. 🙂

        • Jarek November 1, 2021 at 9:21 pm #

          First it was just you, me and the lightbulb. But then when Sun came out or in, I was the Sun? Why wasn’t I the lightbulb too?

          • hmuller November 2, 2021 at 8:14 pm #

            What!? Have you been smoking O.G.’s weed, now that he quit?

        • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 9:46 pm #

          LOL, I saw that before, yes but thanks for posting, always good for a giggle. I esp. like the ‘man bun’ because of course.

        • Islander November 1, 2021 at 10:07 pm #

          Funny. that’s about the level of the “logic.”

          We are effed!!!

  50. Jo-G November 1, 2021 at 4:45 pm #

    ” I doubt that any sort of extreme government surveillance state can be imposed on the public under these conditions.”
    One way to impose an extreme government surveillance state without high technology is to do like the Gestapo did with ubiquitous snitching as a patriotic duty. I know a family that say they got fined heavily during the California COVID lockdown for having too many people in their home for a birthday celebration. The neighbors turned them in to the police.

  51. Roundball Shaman November 1, 2021 at 4:49 pm #

    “… papered-over for two years by ‘helicopter money’ from the federal government — direct payment to the people for doing nothing, producing neither goods nor services. This has been an impressive trick. The money comes from nowhere and for nothing.”

    But the ‘money’ does come from somewhere – lots of men and women in uniforms and holding menacing metallic things in their hands that can harm you seriously and saying, ‘THIS IS MONEY!’

    OK, OK, it’s ‘Money’. That is the only reason that thin air can be considered something of value other than its proper use as something to breathe.

    But when those lots of men and women in uniforms holding menacing metallic things in their hands that can harm you decide for themselves one day that thin air is NOT money… that’s when things get interesting. A mad scramble by everyone once the true value of thin-air ‘Money’ is laid bare for all to see.

    More people will stop doing ‘something’ instead of ‘nothing’ at that point when ‘Money’ is no longer the carrot at the end of the stick
    when the remaining productive people who go to work finally quit going to their jobs. You might get a magic digital download into your bank account with numbers attached to it… but those numbers will no longer ‘buy’ anything anymore.

    “Stay nimble, stay local, stay reality-based, be helpful, be honest, be brave, and be kind to each other.”

    None of these things requires ‘money’. Just basic human decency. And when you look around, you’ll see that there’s been a big shortage in human decency for a long time now and it has nothing to do with tankers backing up in the harbor. But we’ll never make it through without rediscovering our better nature.

    Real virtue. Seems to exist somewhere out in the thin air. But this stuff is valuable as hell.

    • toktomi November 1, 2021 at 5:07 pm #


      It appears from here that new “money” supplies are injected into the global financial system not by “support our troops” mayhem but quite directly among the central banks and their minion banks. Check out the carry trade from Fed to US treasuries.

      Human decency – yes. My hope [for the species] is with those who are genetically predisposed with empathy. They appear to me to be a nearly insignificant minority, at least among the north american and european populations.


  52. toktomi November 1, 2021 at 4:50 pm #


    I once, for a lengthy period of time, frequented r/collapse.

    It was ALL about climate change.

    There may, in my singular estimation, exist there a few salient points, but on the whole it is an issue in nearly every way beyond the scope of the tiny minds of us of the masses.

    “You can spend all your time making money.”
    “You can spend all your love making time.”
    You can rail about things which are far beyond your ability to understand and to influence. One can also walk away with equal effect.

    Just a simple point of conjecture, I would offer that the immediate future of humanity probably hangs not so much in the balance of climate variations [natural or human caused] as it does with the current administering of lethal injections. But I’m still trying to connect the dots and I know nothing.


  53. Jo-G November 1, 2021 at 4:55 pm #

    ” Even many of those goods produced in other lands aren’t making it to the docks, and the reduced flow of goods that happened to already land on the docks can’t get unloaded and delivered to its various destinations because of disruptions in the US trucking sector. ”

    Our host used to write about the foolishness of a just in time inventory systems. A slight shock to such a system resonates because there is no stockage to absorb a shortage and no space to absorb a surge in both finished goods and raw materials. When I read about “supply chain problems” I recall those old articles warning about using trucks as moving warehouses.

  54. Jo-G November 1, 2021 at 5:11 pm #

    “Stay nimble, stay local, stay reality-based, be helpful, be honest, be brave, and be kind to each other. We’ll get through it.”

    Stay. During this pandemic people from the U. S. kept up using the motto “Stay Safe”. Cower and be fearful. Here, the ROK government and its people set a very different tone. Their motto was “Stay Strong”. Keep working to solve this problem.

    This country is also still producing things there are factories all over the place and they’re building more and more of them. I’m not saying they don’t make mistakes and haven’t any problems just that the people here have an attitude toward solving their problems and correcting their mistakes. Their attitude seems to align with the above quote.

  55. zappalives November 1, 2021 at 5:24 pm #

    Quit buying their cheap plastic shit from chinkland !
    Buy only essential supplies.
    Crash this rotten to the core system !
    Civil war now !
    Any questions ?

    • toktomi November 1, 2021 at 5:42 pm #


      “Civil war now !” ?

      Is that a call to arms or an observation of current events?


      • zappalives November 1, 2021 at 6:06 pm #


    • crudgemudgeon November 2, 2021 at 1:43 pm #

      Why do we celebrate every Western cultural holiday with crap from China?

  56. JC Penny November 1, 2021 at 6:12 pm #

    Warning. Ticker-Guy will ban you for disagreeing. Says a lot. Be forewarned.

    • malthuss November 2, 2021 at 12:15 am #

      who is ozone or zone?

      • Jarek November 2, 2021 at 11:47 am #

        He was a poster here for years back when you were Asia.

  57. Jarek November 1, 2021 at 6:50 pm #


    If you have very good vision and condition are perfect – some say yes. So it all depends, just like everything else. Binoculars? No problem – and that’s amazing enough.

    “I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
    So can I. So can any man. But will they
    come when you call?”.


  58. O.G. Hawkins November 1, 2021 at 6:56 pm #


    Garth: “No way!”

    Wayne: “Whey!”


    3 x 5 lbs. = 15 lbs. of Whey Powder

    That’s a shit-ton of eggs. That’s a shit-ton of protein.

    $307 total

  59. benr November 1, 2021 at 7:06 pm #

    Tell us what does a military style campaign to fight global warming look like?
    Released bioweapons?
    Forced vaccines?
    Mandatory lockdowns?
    Public broadcasting of terror threats real or imagined?
    Calling Parents terrorists for speaking out about their children’s education?
    Track trace and database peoples comings and goings?
    Arrest for public gatherings not sanctioned by permit?
    Cancelled for not following the narrative as set forth my Marists?
    Thrown out of work for refusing to get a dubious vaccine with no upside but lots of downsides and injuries?


    The above sounds much like martial law.

    • benr November 1, 2021 at 7:07 pm #

      Cancelled for not following the narrative as set forth by Marxists?

    • 100th Avatar November 1, 2021 at 7:22 pm #

      It looks more benign.

      It looks like you met your mileage quota for internal combustion engines.
      Time to buy carbon credits if you wish to resume.

      Looks like you took too many airline trips: flight booking denied, time to buy credits

      Looks like your electricity bill is too high
      Same too for your NatGas or propane.

      You ate your month’s quota of red meat: purchase denied.

      It looks like you voted for Trump, enroll now in our free reeducation seminar and receive 5000 complimentary carbon credits.

      It looks like you visit climate change denying websites: enroll now in our free reeducation seminar and receive 5000 complimentary carbon credits.

      Same thing for the anti-science and Covid denying websites.

      *Sign up for both and we will un-suspend your account from this month’s freeze on alcohol products.

      • KesaAnna November 1, 2021 at 8:37 pm #

        Sounds about right , because it sounds familiar.

        ” Sounds familiar ” as in seen it all before , many times.

        Only the labels were different .

      • SvrzoH November 2, 2021 at 12:28 pm #

        Grand start and, cleverly, out of main street’s “immediate sight” – post 9-11 check ups at the airports of the world.
        Today’s equivalent is carnage that we, I think, still perceive as distant since it’s far-away-down-under.

        • anmariwakaranai November 3, 2021 at 12:07 pm #

          Leaps & bounds svr, any second now, or already now.

  60. MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 7:12 pm #

    Can anyone point me in the direction of Tucker Carlson’s documentary about January 6th? When I google or search otherwise, all I see are the hissy fit reaction rants from the libbies.

    • roccofire November 1, 2021 at 11:29 pm #

      The ads I see state that it is on Fox Nation, but he is under attack by the Republicans as well over his current Jan 6th documentary .

  61. MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 7:56 pm #

    The CRT insanity ramps up yet again. They learned nothing from Coca Cola, apparently:

    AT&T Employee Training Program Says, ‘White People, You are the Problem’

    “CEO John Stankey has claimed that private corporations, including his own, have an “obligation to engage on this issue of racial injustice” and to advocate for “system reforms in police departments across the country.

    A senior employee reportedly told Rufo that managers at the company now face annual assessments on diversity issues and are forced to participate in discussion groups, book clubs, mentorship programs and race reeducation exercises.

    White employees who are unwilling to admit to being complicit in “white privilege” and “systemic racism” can be penalized in their performance reviews. Additionally, those who refuse to sign a loyalty pledge to “keep pushing for change” and to set “intentions” such as “reading more about systemic racism” and “challenging others’ language that is hateful,” are considered “racist,” the employee told Rufo.”


    • JohnAZ November 1, 2021 at 8:28 pm #

      One huge question Mary.

      What racial injustice? This is a con job by an unbelievable takeover of American institutions by Communist con men. The real racism comes from the Dark Side. The criminal cities!

      Gee, do you think that the leaders of international corporations might be globalist Communists? Duh!

      If we had a government that cared about America first, remember Trump the nationalist, these international corporations would be thrown out of America and a groundswell of real American business would rapidly take their place.

      IOW, get the globalists out of our country.

      • MaryQueen November 1, 2021 at 9:16 pm #

        Totally a globalist thing.

        It was gobsmacking to me, watching my coworkers at the college fall one by one to this unbelievable bollox. This country – IMHO – had never been LESS racist than it was by 2015, and yet, the Evergreen College fiasco showed us what was coming. Suddenly the students ALL thought that the college was inherently racist, when the year before, they were all content being at the most liberal college in the country.

        Hmmm, I wonder what may have changed to make the students suddenly go bonkers over white supremacy?

        A new president was installed to start the mini-color revolution in that college, and to pour gasoline on the fire, they invited Robin DiAngelo to speak at the college and get most of the instructors on board. It quickly evolved into Wokie World.

        If anyone is wondering how all this happened, you should look up Brent Weinstein and Heather Hyers’ documentary about how this all went down. It was ground zero for what we’re seeing now.

        It was disatrous – so of course a victory for the PTB.

        • roccofire November 1, 2021 at 11:23 pm #

          Thank you Mary for pointing this out. Bret and Heather are brilliant scientists and respected by the left, until they began to question the woke thinking and got cancelled. YouTube has demonetized them and many others who ironically are not right wingers but old nerd liberals like myself. Their new book, “A Hunter-Gatherer’s guide to the 21st century” is being attacked by woke media and woke scholars.