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A titanic battle between Mr. Trump and his antagonists looms in the political gloaming of the new year. It may not be resolvable by conventional means since the Intel and Justice agencies have been leading a two-year coup-by-subterfuge against the president, with Robert Mueller as the spearhead, leaving a slime-trail of sedition and prosecutorial misconduct that they are now desperately trying to cover up. How then can the corrupted Department of Justice and its stepchild, the FBI, be relied on to adjudicate these unprecedented crimes against themselves?

The answer may be coming next week when the lame duck session of the House Oversight Committee calls John Huber to appear. Huber is the federal prosecutor out of the Salt Lake City district office who was assigned by the erstwhile Attorney General Jeff Sessions to look into the manifold irregularities of the RussiaGate matter. It’s not clear how much Mr. Huber can tell the committee about an ongoing case, but he hasn’t made a peep all year, and if his testimony suggests that he’s twiddling his thumbs in the sagebrush, it will inform you that we are headed into real civil war. Too much incriminating information is already loose in the public domain about Hillary Clinton and the DNC colluding with Russia, and something has to be done about it.

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It’s well documented elsewhere that Robert Mueller’s mission to detect election “collusion” between Russia and Mr. Trump was a bust, and that all he has to show for it is a roll of contrived convictions for lying to federal prosecutors and the FBI. The case of General Flynn lies at the center because he served as Mr. Obama’s Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and he knew too much about US shenanigans around the notorious Iran nuclear deal and other shady doings. They were alarmed when he went over to Mr. Trump’s campaign, and determined to disable him. Once Mr. Trump appointed Gen. Flynn Director of National Security, Mr. Obama engineered an “incident” in late December of 2016 (confiscating Russian properties in Maryland over alleged election meddling and laying down new sanctions), that prompted Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak to phone Gen. Flynn, the incoming DNS. US Intel was prepared for that set-up and recorded the call, which required the illegal “unmasking” of Flynn, a nicety of spycraft. Thus, the FBI had a transcript of the phone call and were easily able to entrap Flynn in mis-remembering the particulars of the call. Where is that transcript?

The predicate for this operation was completely dishonest: that incoming senior government officials are forbidden to speak to foreign ambassadors. In fact it is their duty to consult with foreign officials, especially in Mr. Flynn’s job, and a long-established tradition of every presidential transition. The coup cadres of the Deep State used The New York Times and The Washington Post to persuade the public that Gen. Flynn had done something treasonous, when it was nothing more than routine transition business.

Gen. Flynn’s sentencing paperwork was released a few days ago. The question is: will he be free to speak about the process he was put through? If there was any contingency against him speaking freely in his sentencing guidelines, it hasn’t been publicized. In any case, he deserves to be pardoned, and I believe that Mr. Trump will do exactly that after Mr. Mueller releases his long-awaited report.

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There is enough ill-feeling and bad faith about all that activity to suggest that President Trump will have to set in motion some kind of extraordinary adjudication process. There have been rumblings for more than a year that he might accomplish that by declaring an emergency and bringing on military tribunals to sort this mess out. Until now, that has seemed farfetched to me. Not anymore. If, over the weeks turning the corner to 2019, Mr. Huber or Mr. Mueller or any of the House and Senate Committees don’t show any progress in airing out the official criminality among government employees, then we are headed into a titanic conflict between two camps in government. The financial markets may already be signaling the distress coming down the road as these two camps prepare to play capture the flag.

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427 Responses to “Capture the Flag”

  1. malthuss December 7, 2018 at 9:45 am #

    Mr. Obama engineered an “incident” in late December of 2016 (confiscating Russian properties in Maryland over alleged election meddling ….

    Obama is a monster.

    • jdhines December 7, 2018 at 4:42 pm #


      You’re delusional.


      • malthuss December 7, 2018 at 7:00 pm #

        A bomb dropped every 20? minutes. For what?

    • Nightowl December 7, 2018 at 4:54 pm #

      Look into his repeal of domestic propaganda (Smith-Mundt Act) just before handing over the reigns of power.

      Put it in context with the actions over the past 2-3 years of formerly somewhat respectable media outlets.

  2. Hands4u December 7, 2018 at 9:48 am #

    Morning Jim. Unfortunately for us I think they may have “burned the flag” in the 60’s or 70’s.

    • seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 4:31 pm #

      What is that… a pussycat?

  3. seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 9:56 am #

    JHK made a series of statements such as “It’s obvious…” and “It’s well-documented…” that don’t particularly stand up to scrutiny. For one everything we got from Mueller was redacted. Mueller’s fawning over Flynn was curious, and it will be interesting to see how he garnered it. I think everything he talked about is politics- the kind of shit that makes you queasy but is just par for the course in hard ball politics. It changed when Russia got involved. Now both side are pointing at each other with the typical GE salute. It all boils down to evidence and cause and effect. To me is seems far more likely that Flynn was working for Obama. Trump may have a supernatural hold over his minions, but Washington is another matter. They don’t like outsiders, and Trump is the quintessential outsider. They don’t want him to succeed, and he isn’t , so they do just enough to convince his base they are working with him. Trumptards fooled again.

    • pequiste December 7, 2018 at 11:04 am #

      “Washington is another matter. They don’t like outsiders, and Trump is the quintessential outsider.” Seawolf77

      Well Wolfie, I would agree with you up until the point that The Man From Queens received his Zapruder Briefing. At that point, and forward, he became an insider. The tinsel town antics, moronic melodrama, and puerile political theatre are just for show.

      The Evil Fuckers get their way anyway. Tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations; The Federal Reserve prints money and manipulates the markets like there is no tomorrow; $700+ billion Defense Dept budgets coupled with continuing military operations in Iraq, Syria, Shitholistan and 100+ other garden spots around the globe; unwavering support of Israel to include moving the embassy to Heirosolyma; NATOs metastasizing growth; no peace rather heigtening antagonism with Russian; astounding budget deficits & trade imbalances; namby-pamby nonsense on halting all immigration and expatriating large numbers of illegal aliens……..the list is just about endless you see.

      The D.C. follies make great T.V. but much like Bill Clinton, DJT might even get impeached, but he will complete his first term just fine thank you, contingent on heeding the advice of the secretary of the agent of the Evil Fucker cell responsible for current North American operations.

      • seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 11:14 am #

        Pray tell what you think is on the actual Zaprudar film?

        • capt spaulding December 7, 2018 at 11:24 am #

          I think it shows Mueller as the triggerman, and Comey is handing him the ammunition, with Obama as the spotter.

          • elysianfield December 7, 2018 at 7:10 pm #

            “I think it shows Mueller as the triggerman, and Comey is handing him the ammunition, with Obama as the spotter.”

            Your post displays the depth of your ignorance…everyone knows is was Dick Cheney on the trigger….

        • Walter B December 7, 2018 at 11:44 am #

          Why the Zapruder film shows whatever it is that you want it to show because in the end, the human beings of today create individual truths within their own minds. Surely you understand this, no?

          • capt spaulding December 7, 2018 at 2:20 pm #

            It’s true. In this time of fake news, craziness abounds. If you don’t have reliable sources of information to depend on, you are whirled around in a maelstrom of innuendo, misinformation, and downright lies. None of which is helped by access to the internet. All you need is a keyboard, and the world of craziness is yours for the wanting. Whatever it was that passed for stability in the old days appears to have vanished along with any feeling of normalcy. I guess this is how the great unraveling begins.

          • jdhines December 7, 2018 at 4:43 pm #


            “the human beings of today create individual truths within their own minds.”

            Only, the sapiens of today? It has been ever such.


        • seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 3:03 pm #

          No it’s just that I am always interested in what happened that day. I personally think it was Governor John Connally who shot JFK. What cinched it for me was some kids who had parked their car near the on ramp to Stemmons Fwy. They saw Jackie try to exit the car a second time on the hairpin turn to get on the fwy. The first time she tried they say she was retrieving a part of JFK’s brain. I don’t buy it. I think she was getting the hell out of there after she saw the muzzle blast of a 45. If you look at the
          Zaprudar film you will see Connally appear to be hit, then he’s on a mission. There is a split second where he and Jackie lock eyes. Then he puts the gun on the floor of the limo and fires upward and in hiding.

          • Walter B December 7, 2018 at 4:03 pm #

            Misdirection is only partially effective as a deterrent to truth and it is only partially effective on the Truly Stupid. Why anyone would care to enlist the Truly Stupid as their minions makes a very damning statement about those utilizing this agenda. Suggesting that JFK actually shot himself would be a better way to go for at least it has some comical value.

          • seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 4:10 pm #

            It’s not misdirection you idiot, it’s the wounded assassin. No one would ever in a million years think to look there.

          • Walter B December 7, 2018 at 4:35 pm #

            Nor would they think to look at Jackie either. Perhaps she did it. And yes I must be an idiot for I banter words with a fool.

          • seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 4:46 pm #

            Glad you recognize it. It’s the first step in changing. Jackie had no motive. Connally had means, motive, and opportunity. He was an expert with guns and a combat veteran, his best friend LBJ who stood best man at his wedding was facing political extinction and prison, and he was inches away at the time JFK’s head exploded.

          • Walter B December 7, 2018 at 5:10 pm #

            From BROTHERS by David Talbot:
            Page 1

            O’Donnell was riding immediately behind Kennedy’s limousine in the Dallas motorcade, just ten feet away, along with fellow Boston Irishman Dave Powers, the White House aide and court jester. They were front row witnesses to the assassination. Powers would later say it felt as if they were “riding into an ambush”. O’Donnell and more than one Secret Service man would tell Bobby the same thing that day. They were caught in a crossfire. It was a conspiracy.

          • elysianfield December 7, 2018 at 7:13 pm #


            I would be more inclined to believe your version rather than believe that the 1891 Mannlicher-Carcano rifle was the fastest shooting most accurate battle rifle of WWII….

    • Exscotticus December 7, 2018 at 2:12 pm #

      >>> JHK made a series of statements such as “It’s obvious…” and “It’s well-documented…” that don’t particularly stand up to scrutiny.

      That’s because you read it before you took your TDS medicine (try using one of those pill organizers so you don’t forget your daily dose).

      The FBI itself admitted to paying a foreign national intelligence agent for dirt on then candidate Trump, which it then used to justify surveillance, and ultimately Mueller’s appointment.

      And of course we have the emails between the FBI and the DoJ where they conspired to stop Trump.

      Meanwhile, the largest financial beneficiaries of Russian election meddling appear to be social media giants like Facebook.

    • outsider December 7, 2018 at 2:18 pm #

      “…Flynn was working for Obama” – seawolf77. Of all the weird conspiracies out there, that’s the first I’ve heard of this one. Since Mueller’s probe forced Flynn to sell his house and wipe out his savings to pay his legal bills, I hope that Obama has the good graces to make Flynn whole. Even generals should know that you should never talk to the FBI without a lawyer.

      • Exscotticus December 7, 2018 at 2:37 pm #

        It’s amazing what you know when you don’t believe in the moon landings.

      • seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 4:05 pm #

        Hey you need a believable cover story. Or unbelievable. Look at Trump. Everyone thinks he’s a great businessman because he was able to bounce back after his numerous bankruptcies. The truth is a little more nefarious.

        • jdhines December 7, 2018 at 4:50 pm #


          True enough. Trump is a better con man than a businessman. How many times did he go into bankruptcy? Let’s wait until we see his tax returns and then judge his business prowess, OK.

          Today it was revealed that he has illegal immigrants working at his clubs. I believe that is a crime, no?


          • malthuss December 7, 2018 at 7:02 pm #

            But who let the undocumented in? democrats?

            Obama did nothing, but be a puppet. A Manchurian candidate.
            Barry just appeared.

  4. Paulo December 7, 2018 at 10:02 am #

    re: “Trump will have to set in motion some kind of extraordinary adjudication process. There have been rumblings for more than a year that he might accomplish that by declaring an emergency and bringing on military tribunals to sort this mess out.”

    Ha ha ha. Righhhhht.

    Would this be done by the same Generals that he knows so much more than? General kelly after he quits? Trump to self, “Ask around for some ‘loyal’ generals”.

    Trump is just a fucking con-man grifter who has hoodwinked about 15% of the population into believing his meme. Another 10 % is so disillusioned they would do anything to blow up the staus quo. And 10% are just plain old fucking stupid and would support just about anything to the right of Gerry Falwell.

    Can’t fix stupid so those folks could/should be excused. That seems to leave about 25% of the US population in severe need of a wake-up. That coffee and ass kick should be about any day, now.

    Enjoy. MAGA.

    I read yesterday that Trump thought he might like to be buried at Bedminster Golf Club (NJ) should he croak while in office. But, the pundits asked, “Shouldn’t he be buried at his Presidential Library like other presidents”. That presupposes he actually reads anything beyond his own press clippings and Marvel graphic novels. No, a golf club is very suitable. That says it all.

    The best result would be for legal quicksand to persist for another 18 months regardless of the Mueller probe. Then, a short Pence chair warming. After that, the extinction of the Republican Party and a rise of Independents.

    • jdhines December 7, 2018 at 10:10 am #


      Your take on the situation is more plausible than anything else I’ve heard and I agree with your assessment.


    • Exscotticus December 7, 2018 at 2:24 pm #

      >>> But, the pundits asked, “Shouldn’t he be buried at his Presidential Library like other presidents”.

      And that really sums it up. Trump doesn’t play by their rules; he plays by his rules. And that drives them TDS nuts.

      The MSM has lost tremendous political influence, they’re not happy about it, and they want that influence back. Ditto for statists and lobbyists.

      The MSM’s problem with Trump is that he’s not a good little trained RINO. The MSM has already fired every weapon they have, accusing him of racism, sexism, this-ism, that-ism—all to no avail. They want the good old days when they could simply threaten a RINO with charges of racism, and said RINO would bow down, ask for mercy, and flip-flop and whatever issue was causing the MSM distress.

      Trump, on the other hand, LOVES tangling with the MSM. It makes his day. And it taught the world just how fake and biased the MSM is.

      • jdhines December 7, 2018 at 4:55 pm #


        “Trump doesn’t play by their rules; he plays by his rules.”

        Therein lies the problem. Trumps rules include lying, cheating, “welching” and outright fraud. A nasty type of human if ever the was one. You Trumpsters really should find a new hero, maybe Hannibal Lecter? I’m sure he’s a better conversationalist and probably a lot more truthful too.


        • Exscotticus December 7, 2018 at 9:16 pm #

          >>> Trumpsters really should find a new hero, maybe Hannibal Lecter?

          Comparing Trump to a fictional serial killer. TDS ALERT!

          Obama made tons of promises he didn’t keep as well. Like closing down Gitmo. Well he had eight years and he didn’t do it. Oops! So by your TDS logic, Obama is also Hannibal Lecter…

          • EvelynV December 10, 2018 at 8:16 am #

            Escotticus take a memo:

            When Obama was serving he was hamstrung by a tea bagging congress brimming with right wing freaks who used all their power to prevent him from accomplishing anything they thought would make him appear favorable in the eyes of the public.

            His congresses bordered on treason at every turn even up to end when he was prevented from filling a Supreme court vacancy.

            You are just another hypocrite in how you pretend to make intelligent political commentary.

      • S M Tenneshaw December 9, 2018 at 9:58 pm #

        No need to bury Drumpf anywhere, just flush him down the tubes like the worthless piece of shit that everybody goddamn well knows he is.

        And the sooner the better. The stench is killing us.

    • outsider December 7, 2018 at 2:26 pm #

      Where is it written that ex-presidents are entitled to a Presidential Library? We all know that Trump doesn’t read. GWB doesn’t read either, and I wouldn’t cross the street to go to his stupid taxpayer-supported library. It would be most fitting if Trump stops this unholy trend. Hell, maybe he should be buried beneath Trump Tower when the time comes.

      • seawolf77 December 8, 2018 at 10:45 am #

        I agree. I think it should be personalized. FDR could have a hospital for Polio victims. JFK for gunshot wounds to the head. Jerry Ford a dance studio. And of course, Trump can have his wall.

      • pedal pusher December 8, 2018 at 4:39 pm #

        Outsider, Regarding your suggestion Trump be buried under Trump Tower, I read recently that Trump doesn’t in fact own the land his namesake tower sits upon. According to William D. Cohan (Why Wall Street Matters) an Italian firm holds title to the lot and leases it to Trump.

      • Majella December 9, 2018 at 3:17 pm #

        ….or dumped in a foundation of his ‘wall’ and back-filled with cement. No marker needed.

      • EvelynV December 10, 2018 at 8:22 am #

        No library for trump. A kiosk shaped like a hand with tiny fingers clutching what looks like a taco. Inside the kiosk a keyboard fitted to a gold plated twitter capable device.

  5. ffkling December 7, 2018 at 10:03 am #

    Trump’s politically motivated, self-serving use of pardons represents a further corruption of the body politic.

    Donald Trump is the personification of the expression attributed to King Louis XV, “Après moi, le déluge” or “After me, the catastrophe”. He knows this all too well, which explains why the Grifter in Chief is doing everything possible to take advantage of his position and grab it all before it disappears forever, and The Dear Leader’s Republican congressional enablers could care less about the national and global ramifications. In the final analysis, greed and power “trump” all other considerations.

    • EvelynV December 7, 2018 at 10:15 am #

      I think it was you who posted the list of web search trends that correlated strongest with Trump supporters. Wishing I had copied it before it was unceremoniously censored. Quite humorous.

      • ffkling December 7, 2018 at 11:40 am #

        Mr. Kunstler may delete the evidence in defense of his Dear Leader, but you can read the study information by accessing the University of New York database.

        When peak oil didn’t cause economic collapse as expected by Kunstler several years ago to match the plots in his books, he meandered into political conspiracy theories and opinion. How unfortunate. He also lost his publisher and now self-publishes- a major fall in writer status.

        It’s called karma. And now he’s doubling down by wallowing in the insanity of the Trumptards. As Steve Schmitt noted, 1/3 of the country has always been looney tunes.

        • Ancianoloco December 7, 2018 at 1:34 pm #

          Too bad arrogant true believers like yourself have no clue you are part of that 1/3 and the rest of us have to endure your crap as well.

        • shabbaranks December 7, 2018 at 1:55 pm #

          “University of New York”??? What institution would that be? Link?

          Self-publishing is a fall? Just who the hell is your publisher? Perhaps Larry Flynt’s “Wankfest for Losers?”

          I call BS on dipshits like you posting on here.

          • Exscotticus December 7, 2018 at 2:25 pm #

            ffkling and seawold are all talk and no links. What do you expect from people who don’t believe the moon landings happened?

          • seawolf77 December 8, 2018 at 10:47 am #

            Common sense. From you-obsequious fealty. Smooch smooch smooch!.

          • ffkling December 12, 2018 at 3:44 am #

            Are you too stupid to google Fragile Masculinity Syndrome? How about the Washington Post? If you want to be spoon-fed, call your mommy.

        • James Howard Kunstler December 7, 2018 at 2:20 pm #

          I switched publishers. I am currently writing a book on contract for Ben Bella Books. I self publish novellas because no trade publishers are interested in the 50-page format. — JHK

          • aibohphobia December 7, 2018 at 3:37 pm #

            JHK There’s no need for you to explain yourself to those who are clueless about today’s publishing business–

            For anyone who doesn’t know, it’s a winner-take-all game. You have maybe less than 100 top selling authors who are essentially there because they are luckier than Powerball winners. Most authors don’t make coffee money on their royalties, and those who manage to eke out an actual living with publishing because everything they write is d*mn good, like JHK, are the rock stars of the industry.

        • snarkmatic9000 December 8, 2018 at 1:52 pm #

          JHKs desecnt into paranoia and conspriracy theory is downright pathetic; now one only visits for macabre entertainment by the crazies sucked in by the wrecking of civility and rationality for political power by the Bannonistas, we all know who they are.

          It’s a shame, given a writing history marked by trenchant and groundbreaking observations of the foolishness of suburbia, the cost of energy profligacy, our pathetic society in general. Observations not unlike the brilliant HLMencken, well, at one time anyway, it seems like long ago now…but the current paranoid take on politics here, the fake distancing from DT’s agenda, the willingness to cut the nose off of the face of the nation, not so much.

          Clearly the trauma, perhaps legitimate to a degree, of having been “woke” by the academic neo-Maoists, and the resulting knee-jerk reader support, the applause by conservative mouthpieces, all of this and more has propelled what would have been heretofore an unfathomable motivation to tap into wing-nut anger, and given the lucrativeness of that bottomless pit of a market, perhaps the only plausible reason to explain such a radical change in tone, unfortunately one that no longer deserves support,financial or otherwise Let’s see if this one gets redacted.

          • seawolf77 December 9, 2018 at 10:09 am #

            As condescending assholes go, you are truly a + 6 sigma one.

          • CancelMyCard December 9, 2018 at 8:34 pm #

            Has anyone here yet labelled you as a pompous twit?

            Yes? No?

            Well, just in case, let me be the first, or second, or third, or . . .

    • draupnir December 7, 2018 at 12:02 pm #

      Good God, man, Clinton pardoned a bunch.:

      Edwin Cortes, sentenced to 35 years in prison.
      Elizam Escobar, sentenced to 60 years in prison.
      Ricardo Jimenez, sentenced to 90 years in prison.
      Adolfo Matos, sentenced to 70 years in prison.
      Dylcia Noemi Pagan, sentenced to 55 years in prison.
      Alicia Rodríguez, sentenced to 55 years in prison.
      Ida Luz Rodriguez, sentenced to 75 years in prison.
      Luis Rosa, sentenced to 75 years in prison.
      Carmen Valentin, sentenced to 90 years in prison.
      Alberto Rodriguez, sentenced to 35 years in prison.
      Alejandrina Torres, sentenced to 35 years in prison.
      Juan Enrique Segarra-Palmer, sentenced to 55 years in prison; released on 25 January 2004.

      He also pardoned his brother for drug charges. Almost 1/3rd of Clinton’s pardons occurred on his last day in office. True to form, the rumor is that those pardons were purchased.

      Pardons are part of the presidential prerogatives granted by the Constitution of the United States. Though there was some outcry over Clinton’s use of it. It never amounted to anything. If its a corruption of the body politic, it has been going on for a very long time.

    • Exscotticus December 7, 2018 at 1:35 pm #

      >>> Trump’s politically motivated, self-serving use of pardons

      LOL as opposed to Clinton pardoning his own brother?! Someone forgot to take their TDS pills today…

    • amb December 7, 2018 at 2:12 pm #

      ffkling: Ha, as if you know what you are talking about. Please.

  6. Luhrenloup December 7, 2018 at 10:03 am #

    Trump’s only salvation at this point is to expose the corruption because he is sinking fast. Even Tucker Carlson has turned against him. His words,
    “His chief promises were that he would build the wall, de-fund planned parenthood, and repeal Obamacare, and he hasn’t done any of those things.”

  7. James Howard Kunstler December 7, 2018 at 10:11 am #

    In case there is any confusion among commenters, I have never been a Trump cheerleader. I just believe that the actions of his adversaries have been taken in an extraordinary spirit of bad faith, and that they’ve done tremendous institutional damage to the country, and must be held accountable, — JHK

    • EvelynV December 7, 2018 at 10:20 am #

      At least they didn’t put a bullet in his brain in Dallas but then you aren’t a conspiracy theory believer so it must be especially shocking to you that agencies within our government could somehow be involved with misbehavior of any kind.

    • michics December 7, 2018 at 10:22 am #

      I agree with you and of the same belief. But I also have come to believe that there more powerful people at work here than Trump, Comey, etc. and that there will be no accountability unless it is in someone’s interest. And we the people are not part of that interest.

    • Kafkaesque December 7, 2018 at 10:23 am #

      Arrant pettifogging once thought unworthy of a fine intellect gone rogue…. Wait for it…. Elephantine as in GOP, all because of gender offense. Utter

    • seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 10:26 am #

      Do you think Mueller will indict Hillary and Obama at the end of this? Because it seems that is what you are suggesting. If the evidence is there, the senate will vote him out. If it is not, they will allow him to finish his term. To be honest I would rather vote him out of office then impeach. He’s a dead duck president. He’ll accomplish nothing else in his term. There will never be a wall. Soon he’ll stop mentioning it at his rallies. A year from now, when it’s clear to even him he’s not going to get re-elected, he;ll stop having them. Attendance will have dropped off a cliff anyway.

      • Exscotticus December 7, 2018 at 2:29 pm #

        >>> Do you think Mueller will indict Hillary and Obama at the end of this?

        Given that Mueller hasn’t indicted a single Democrat yet, that would be: no. But at least we know Mueller’s not politically biased!

    • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter December 7, 2018 at 10:35 am #

      You are probably SOL, because for most of the Left, politics has become a personal thing based in faith, not reason.

      They are simply unable to comprehend that a thing may be right or wrong all of itself, and unconnected to party politics. That is how the party that once fought against blacklisting, has become the party of blacklisting.

      In addition to that, the spinmeisters and shills are constantly at work, in their partisan capacity.

      I would love to see the Democratic response should Trump announce that he intends to set up his own private email server in a bathroom at Mara Lago.

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

      • James Howard Kunstler December 7, 2018 at 2:26 pm #

        I don’t know where “Squeaky” lives.
        But even if you’re pretending, it’s against the rules to release personal info about other commenters, so I’m banning you from this blog.

    • Luhrenloup December 7, 2018 at 10:42 am #

      Absolutely, you can’t have that much corruption at the top and remain a viable state. The only thing preventing this country from turning to despotism and the jungle is a functioning justice system which is slowly sinking into the Atlantic.

      • SpeedyBB December 7, 2018 at 7:05 pm #

        It may seem arbitrary but I like to assign a date to the moment when Ame Rica became a full-fledged banana republic: April 5, 1933, when through Executive Order 6102 Franklin Delano Roosevelt ordered the confiscation of all gold bullion in private hands. A telling blow for individual freedom and autonomy.

        We evolved into Paraguay-with-atomic-weapons.

    • JustSaying December 7, 2018 at 11:30 am #

      …that they’ve done tremendous institutional damage to the country, and must be held accountable.

      This is the crux of the matter, no doubt. Without it, the system will not stand. But that accountability will facilitate a civil war, I think.

    • mdhendler December 7, 2018 at 11:57 am #

      I know that you believe Hillary Clinton and her deep state minions are surely going to face justice someday for their evil, corrupt machinations.

      I also know that you’re not a betting man and would never step foot into a casino or off-track betting parlor.

      However, sometimes people make small bets on events deemed to be reasonably probable.

      Suppose the odds are 10 to 1, you get 10X whatever you bet if the event happens.

      Would you bet $100 dollars that Hillary will be indicted anytime within the next two years? No, of course not.

      Would you risk $10? I don’t think so. What about $1, so you can get $10 if the Hillary is indicted within the next two years? No, I still suspect.

      So my real question is, would you bet even one cent in the hope that you might receive a dime if Hillary is indicted? You might be able to buy an old Durito package from EBay. Or maybe, you could think of it like a good luck gesture ,e.g. people who throw pennies into the fountain.

      • malthuss December 7, 2018 at 1:04 pm #

        When? When do the Cs go to prison?

        When does the dollar die?

        When does the DJIA go to 3000 [as JHK predicted]?

        • seawolf77 December 8, 2018 at 10:48 am #


    • VCS December 7, 2018 at 12:41 pm #

      JHK — “I have never been a Trump cheerleader.”

      Well…maybe not…

      But for months you have strictly avoided criticizing him, and relentlessly attacked his critics. Very lopsided.

      You used to be an even-handed critic of all BS. Please, Jim, regain your balance —

      • Exscotticus December 7, 2018 at 1:32 pm #

        That’s a false equivalency. You’re comparing felony deep state collusion against Trump with what? You don’t like Trump’s tweeting? That he said “shithole nations”? You don’t like his hair?

        When Trump starts engaging in unlawful activity that is comparable to what the statists have done and continue to do, then you’ll have a point.

        • VCS December 7, 2018 at 3:37 pm #

          False equivalency? — Bullshit. You’re talking nonsense.

        • Nightowl December 7, 2018 at 4:35 pm #

          Exactly. And let’s not forget, stuff like “shithole countries” belongs in the same category as the reporting on “two scoops” and the Koigate.

          I’d wager that 98% of what you read about Trump that is sourced to anon. sources, is simply made up.

          They are so brazen that they even stealth edit stories on their Web sites in real time now. Check out what went on last week with the Guardian and Wikileaks.

    • Ancianoloco December 7, 2018 at 1:53 pm #

      I’m not sure what you expected when you chose to deviate from established leftist canon and began seeking a truth-based explanation for this shits-show that passes for reality. Now, you are taking heat from true believers on both sides of the false Left/Right paradigm. I have no doubt you can take it. Just don’t have any false illusions about changing many minds, especially the regular thread-hogs in the peanut gallery.

    • amb December 7, 2018 at 2:19 pm #

      I agree. This is my concern too. Although it will never happen, a military tribunal run by true patriots, would be a wonderful thing: it could put the governmental train back on the tracks, restore “we the people’s” confidence in government and save our country.

      The cancer has spread too far, wide and deep. It would take a super-human effort of objectivity, justice, courage and determination to clear the corruption out of this government.

    • outsider December 7, 2018 at 2:48 pm #

      My thoughts exactly, Mr. K. Tucker Carlson has said in non-Fox interviews that Trump has learned nothing since being elected, and that he can’t get any legislation passed because he doesn’t understand the difficult process of checks and balances laid down in the constitution. Also, IMO, he has very few trustworthy loyalists.

      The only campaign promise I really thought that Trump might get done was to achieve more peaceful relations with Russia. This Russia Witch Hunt has done its job and made that impossible. I hope they’re happy that they made the world a much more dangerous place.

    • holtrp December 8, 2018 at 12:22 pm #

      Jim, where is the ‘bad faith’?

      Trump and virtually everyone he has surrounded himself with are bald face liars. They lie about little details. They lie about big details. They lie about things that are easily disprovable. They lie when the truth is better. Trump and his supporters have no one else to blame about these investigations into his administration than Trump.

      Imagine if Trump was actually an honest human being? This entire shit-show playing out for the past 3 years would have been easily avoided. “Yes, the Trump orgainzation is trying to build a hotel in Russia”. “Yes, I pay for sex outside my marriage with playmates and pornstars”. “Yes, we took a meeting with Russians to try and get dirt on Hillary Clinton”. “Yes, I made a phone call to discuss sanctions with the Russian ambassador”.

      The incesseent and pathological lying is why people despise him and what has gotten him in so much trouble. Trump is the definition of ‘bad faith’.

    • snarkmatic9000 December 8, 2018 at 2:12 pm #

      Maybe, but I’m sorry, but to the think it’s one big conspiracy, some kind of premeditated adversarial action by the CIA, FBI, Dems, the whole litany of a fictional organized government/corporate “Deep State” complicit bureaucracy that’s barely competent to wipe it’s own azz, whose who only purpose is opposition to, and support of the removal of, DT, is just plain nuts. Some malfeasance may well have occurred, most are the manufactured delusions of the pizza-shop-child-sex-ring Hillary Haters moon-shot-denying tin-hat crowd, but to believe it’s been organized in any way shape or form is as crazy as believing in Podesta as chief-child-molester. Get a grip.

    • Majella December 9, 2018 at 3:31 pm #

      JHK, I respectfully refer you to Michael Lewis’s new work, “The Fifth Risk” if you want to see how the Trump Administration is TRULY damaging the institutions of US civil government.

      In some cases it may be a deliberate move to do so, but mostly it’s just the astounding incompetence of his appointed managers of such hugely important government functions as (to name the first two he studies) the Dept of Energy & the Dept of Agriculture. Few people have any idea how reliant the fabric of American life is upon such institutions.

      It’s like this with the ‘Government is the problem’ crowd, as Mr Lewis points out: “Why do we need to pay billions a year for the ‘National Weather Service’ when we can just get the information from our smart phone app or AccuWeather.com?” These fools don’t understand where your app & AccuWeather get the information.

  8. michics December 7, 2018 at 10:14 am #

    I have read JHK’s books, been a reader of this blog for over 10 yrs, but Jim’s recent comments are the same b.s. that one can get from the Fox GOP channel. Jim, you and I are of similar age and can remember the Nixon and Clinton Special Prosecutors and know very well that S.P.’s mandate is to follow evidence where ever it takes them. Nixon and Clinton got about lying. Not about the original crime or sin.

  9. Brabantian December 7, 2018 at 10:16 am #

    Maybe the biggest clusterf*ck this week, is the US Deep State Mueller-tied goons, arranging for the arrest in Canada of top Chinese executive Ms Meng Wanzhou of Huawei on some caked-up ‘violation of sanctions’ charges … a disgusting, malicious affair bringing shame to both Canada & the USA

    But which gives China a huge opportunity to denounce the corruption of the US legal system, by using the files which have been successfully blocking other USA extradition requests, files exposing corruption and bribery by US federal judges and DOJ officials like Mueller

    As even David Goldman of Asia Times notes, there has never before been a request for an international extradition in a case like this … it is yet further international abuse of the tentacles of USA ‘lawfare’

    As David Goldman hints, the arrest of the Chinese business princess, seems to be the Deep-Staters, not Trump, who are trying to create war with China and sabotage China-USA ‘deal’ prospects

    Despite his faults, it is not Trump’s style to seek the arrest and jailing of an elegant business woman prominent in a major country, on some dodgy ‘administrative wrongdoing’ pretext

    It may be China in Canadian courts, who help along the blow-up of the US Deep State, after this stupid move by the USA so-called ‘Dept of Justice’ and servile Canadians

    The Canadian Mounties should ride in, release that Chinese woman from jail, and put Prime Minister Trudeau in that cell instead … along with his pink pull-over and pussyhat

    • FincaInTheMountains December 7, 2018 at 10:31 am #

      The arrest of a Chinese in Canada is the revenge of the fart who, in impotent rage, shouts: “Now see what the truce that you made with the Chinese smells like?”

  10. shotho December 7, 2018 at 10:16 am #

    Do any of these machinations of our government really make any difference. The financial markets certainly don’t need anymore ‘distress’ in order to falter all on their own, even though political dysfunction won’t help them. Our political system is now so degraded by its complexity, size and venality that it’s falling all on its own and really doesn’t depend much on what Mueller, Trump, etc. do or don’t do.

    • darrell dullnig December 7, 2018 at 10:51 am #

      The folks at the top of the food chain at NWO headquarters do not take chances. They want to know with certainty that the system will crash, and crash hard. So far, it seems to me they have engineered this thing very well. Such control is a wonder to behold. If NASA scientists and engineers had been as competent, we might have actually made a moon landing.

      • beantownbill. December 7, 2018 at 11:27 am #

        Dulling, there you go again spouting nonsense. I can’t give credence to anything you say when you state there’s never been a moon landing. Sorry to be sarcastic, but I suppose you believe the Earth is flat, too.

        • seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 12:18 pm #

          How much time has to pass before you stop believing? It’s been 50 years. We were supposed to have lunar vacations by now, and yet we haven’t even been back. There is copious research to show it was faked, how it was done, who did it, and why-money. It’s cheaper to make a movie about going to the moon than to actually go. Cheaper and safer.

          • Ol' Scratch December 7, 2018 at 12:54 pm #

            SeaWolfie’s a conspiracy guy too? I never would have guessed. Welcome to the club. I’m neutral on the moon landing (haven’t looked at the evidence that much), but it’s entirely plausible, for sure.

          • capt spaulding December 7, 2018 at 2:27 pm #

            I can’t believe you guys still think that there is a moon.

          • Exscotticus December 7, 2018 at 2:35 pm #

            >>> I can’t believe you guys still think that there is a moon.

            LOL. Nice.

          • seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 4:29 pm #

            You should see Trump’s moon. Breathtaking.

          • snarkmatic9000 December 8, 2018 at 2:21 pm #

            You are truly a fool.

        • darrell dullnig December 7, 2018 at 12:41 pm #

          Bill, the earth may or may not be flat, but Hell is assuredly very hot, and though I hate to be the one to break it to you, that is where you are destined for using sarcasm, your weak apology notwithstanding.

          • shotho December 7, 2018 at 6:45 pm #

            What!? Do you actually believe that using sarcasm is worthy of damnation? Man, am I in a whole lot of deep do-do.

        • malthuss December 7, 2018 at 1:35 pm #

          It is dullNig.

          • darrell dullnig December 7, 2018 at 1:52 pm #

            Thanks, malthuss.

            I was going to chastise him for that as well, but since I was already condemning him to eternal damnation for his gross sins, I thought I would just let it slide.

          • malthuss December 7, 2018 at 7:04 pm #

            Thank You for your thanks you.

            BB has some good insights. If I recall, he is a farmer in the south.

    • beantownbill. December 7, 2018 at 11:31 am #

      I agree with you. The economy is the crucial factor. How much longer can the markets put up with their being manipulated by prices and phony statistics? How many $800 daily Dow losses can occur before markets falter? Eventually, truth will out in the economy. It is a mathematical certainty. And then most everything will become apparent and the SHTF for real.

      • malthuss December 7, 2018 at 1:36 pm #

        Plug protection team.

      • outsider December 7, 2018 at 3:07 pm #

        Trump made a HUGE mistake when he took credit for the raging bull market. Now he must take credit for its fall. Anyone who has ever taken Econ101 should understand that potus does not control the markets. If we’re heading into a 2008 style depression, it won’t be over before the 2020 election. My prediction – Trump decides not to run again. His monstrous ego will not allow him to go out a loser.

        • seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 4:01 pm #

          This week has been breathtaking. The markets are raging, like a storm on the Grand Banks.

          • malthuss December 7, 2018 at 7:06 pm #

            plunge protection team shores things up, for now. Maybe in January, the DJIA collapses.

          • malthuss December 7, 2018 at 7:13 pm #

            Why is the Dollar so strong?

          • seawolf77 December 8, 2018 at 11:14 am #

            Last Hurrah?

        • capt spaulding December 7, 2018 at 8:31 pm #

          Well seawolf, if the country tanks again, it won’t be a problem for the Republicans. Judging by the past, all you have to do is wait 8 years and you’ll be back in power again, doing the same shit you did last time. Voters have the memory of mayflies, apparently.

  11. seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 10:19 am #

    Trump at the funeral was priceless. Hillary didn’t even look at him, afraid the image of him would speed through her central nervous system and transform her into a mongoloid. He sat there wondering when he dies, will they do all this for him. Sadly not even his vivid imagination could picture a day when he is revered as Poppy Bush. Sad. Such a disgrace.

    • rackslope December 7, 2018 at 11:15 am #

      See next post. That’s you! But I don’t think you’re getting paid for it. Whomp.. whomp.

  12. teddyboy46 December 7, 2018 at 10:30 am #

    there are 2 reasons why commentators criticize JHK . 1. They so emotionally invested in the propaganda they like, that any contradiction of it must be stamped out immediately. 2. They are Social Media Agents. Specifically Lonely Traveler who was posting for 4 weeks telling everyone how wrong JHK is. I accused Lonely Traveler of being a Social Media Agent and they disappeared .

    Qanon says Trump has 1000s of sealed indictments waiting to be handed out to government officials for corruption and bribery. I got my popcorn and coke zero ready I am going to sit back and enjoy the show.

  13. robert magill December 7, 2018 at 10:44 am #

    Drop by drop by drop by drop. The long emergency is rapidly becoming more like the old Chinese water torture.  But somehow that old horror show seems cleaner and more civilized than what we are beginning to experience as it all comes apart. Keep in mind, those fly-over millions have thus far remained becalmed through much of the preliminaries, but comes the Main Event! Whoa!

    • Ol' Scratch December 7, 2018 at 12:59 pm #

      Exactly. This comment board has a real east coast tilt. Out here in flyover country, the support for Trump is strong as ever. I think the Dems won’t like what awaits them one bit if they succeed in removing him.

      • Walter B December 7, 2018 at 1:22 pm #

        The East Coasters and especially the big city dwellers have serious anger issues with the areas of the country that supply them with all of their food and water. I believe whether they know it, admit it or understand it at all, it angers them to be so dependent on “non-urbanites” for their very existence. In all my years I have never seen any “Manhattan” raised beef for sale in the supermarket, have you? For all of their high rise “high class” self images, inside they know that they are as dependent upon Johnny Hayseed as a newborn is on it’s Mother (or Nanny or Daycare worker, or significant other, or whatever).

        • Ol' Scratch December 7, 2018 at 1:59 pm #

          Yep. Their nose in the air attitude really conflicts with the fact that they’re utterly dependent on all that low class, stinky, sweaty labor out there. The cognitive dissonance is palpable.

          • jdhines December 7, 2018 at 9:18 pm #

            Nose in the air? That sounds rather like your dear leader, a true east coaster if ever there was one. Please enlighten us with why you adore one and despise the other.

      • jdhines December 7, 2018 at 9:11 pm #

        I, for one, would certainly like to give it a try, removing his Orangness that is.

  14. seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 10:53 am #

    I bet this turns out like Y2K. A big shoo shoo.

    • Ol' Scratch December 7, 2018 at 1:00 pm #

      Likewise. It will be played out for another two years so that it can be the primary election issue in 2020, largely neutralizing Trump in the meantime.

  15. elysianfield December 7, 2018 at 10:53 am #

    Well, ladies and germs,
    As I sit at the computer, living deep into the left coast, at present time it is 24F outside.

    I can honestly state, on this auspicious date, that there is a little nip….

    No, I cannot continue…even I have standards….

    • seawolf77 December 8, 2018 at 11:13 am #

      A paragon of… restraint? Ahh go ahead do that bong hit.

      • elysianfield December 8, 2018 at 5:33 pm #

        Nooo, just an attack of good judgment….

  16. volodya December 7, 2018 at 11:13 am #

    Tribal lunacies are the affliction that blind people to even the blindingly obvious and I think that this is what JHK’s post in the comment section is pointing out. It doesn’t seem to matter that JHK said a multitude of times he’s not a Trump admirer, nor does it seem to matter that in these matters it doesn’t matter a stitch whether you like Trump or not. To those wearing tribal head-dresses, malfeasance committed in service of removing Trump from office or, barring that, hobbling his administration, apparently is un-noticed or, if it’s noticed, matters not a whit. What matters is upending his election win.

    Nor does the series of events, nor the political and economic circumstances that led to Trump’s win seem to matter in the slightest. How can this possibly be? Could it be that complexities like these strain the intellectual capacity of this self-congratulating and self-proclaimed “progressive” elite that’s trying to oust him, people that never fail to tell us how enlightened and educated they are?

    Or could it be that these people are as I see them, ie neither enlightened nor progressive? To my eyes, they show themselves as self-interested, self-dealing, mendacious incompetents that don’t give a shit that the country was sold down the river and who don’t give a flying fuck that they were complicit in this outrage. But maybe that’s just me.

    I hope I’m not right in my assessment because such malice in the service of personal and class interest can blind people to a lot of stuff, stuff that has a strong tendency to come back to bite, stuff like what we’re seeing now. Even simple self-interest even without malice can blind people to a lot of things.

    But maybe these are things that the alleged education of this supposed “elite” didn’t encompass. It’s hard to believe because history is full of examples of abusive ruling classes getting run out of town, getting tossed into dungeons, getting their heads stuck on sticks. Or maybe this present day ruling class and their enabling lackeys and managerial clerisy are aware of all this nasty history. Maybe it’s their considered opinion that they’re exempt. I guess they think that this time it’s different.

    Trump promised to deliver for a large class of beaten down people. If he’s prevented from bringing it, I cringe to think what alternatives are waiting. Maybe those people at the center of all these frolics should slow down a bit and think things through.

    • rackslope December 7, 2018 at 11:25 am #

      “But maybe that’s just me.”

      You are not alone.

      Well said.

      • volodya December 7, 2018 at 12:48 pm #

        Thanks. Glad to know someone else sees it.

      • Ol' Scratch December 7, 2018 at 1:06 pm #

        Likewise. Politics via insurgency has become the new norm, and rest assured both political parties will be playing it this way from now on. Third world here we are! This might not be the end, but it’s certainly the beginning of the end.

    • draupnir December 7, 2018 at 12:26 pm #

      I’ve often noticed that one of the great failings of human nature is the drive to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. People always go too far. I’m sure the people at the center are aware something is going to break, but they lie to themselves and always believe they can go just a little bit further, then they’ll stop..Macron, that Rothschild’s stooge, has had his fingers slapped, so he throws a sop at the Sans-Culottes. Maybe it will work, for now. Maybe it won’t.

      • volodya December 7, 2018 at 12:46 pm #

        I don’t pretend to understand French politics, but maybe the French just figured that the fix was in, that this fuel tax was just a money-grab to be used by France’s unbudgeable, comfy-cosy governing bureaucracy. More for them IOW, and less for you. And maybe this was the last of many straws, one after the other, all in service of what is good and great, and all of which costs people fees and taxes.

        And so, “to the barricades!”

    • RocketDoc December 7, 2018 at 2:29 pm #

      I take a longer view….the Democrats I hung out with wanted 4 things: more concern and care for the environment, less militarism/defense spending, greater social justice (NOT greater diversity per se) just more housing and job opportunities for minorities, and some international cooperation awareness. Americans just didn’t really have any interest in other countries’ problems. This progressive agenda was trivialized and attacked by Reagan’s minions and the recently departed Bush’s Lee Atwater. Jimmy Carter’s put on a sweater became –Drill baby and drive an SUV. The Republicans counter-attacked the reigning smug Democrats adroitly. NAFTA was drafted and negotiated by BUSH. It supported Republican business interests. I recall getting a copy of Ross Perot’s speech in 1989 to the National press club and ultimately voting for the silly little man in 1992.
      So when I say the ‘long view’ I mean the Gingrich revolution. The Republicans became and are naysayers. We won’t play unless we get what we want. I am not defending the klepto-Clinton’s. It was Bush II that brought us Iraq, Afghanistan, and neo-cons that justified it. It was Bush (helped by Fannie Mae Dodd and Frank) and banking interests that brought us the financial crisis–not Obama. He purposefully or mistakenly did nothing about it, perhaps in a conciliatory vein to the recalcitrant Republicans who said no way are we going to support anything this yo-yo does.
      The Republicans have used non-compromise as a weapon for years as a successful political tactic and organizing principle to defend their paymasters. Wasn’t the saluting Bob Dole a water carrier for ADM? Both parties are completely lost in the weeds because the elite play one-upmanship games and no one has the faintest interest in the sacrifices that are required to even begin addressing the real problems. I live in flyover country and my neighbor’s are not deplorables but they may be mistaken that Trump is any kind of savior.
      PS: It is really depressing to read that we didn’t go to the moon. NASA sent 12 “moon rockets” into low earth orbit so they could stage a fake landing on Hollywood back lots….Just, wow.

      • jdhines December 7, 2018 at 9:23 pm #

        Nice to see someone on this forum is clear headed and not living in the ether. Nice post.

    • TPTB-USA December 7, 2018 at 2:30 pm #

      volodya, I think you are giving “them” too much credit. Like a flock of birds, where one senses danger, to the observer, it appears that they all takeoff at the same time. Living organisms come pre programed with a survival instinct, and conditioning plays on that instinct.

      You wonder, and I suggest that, “they know not what they do”, it is just a human nature survival reaction, and the manner of the protest is a result of conditioning.

      The game amounts to doubling your money. Those in the know understand the game and can play it to perfection. The game is penny doubled, where you start with a penny and double it in a day. The next day you double your 2 cents, the following day you double your 4 cents, … and in 28 days you have over a million dollars.

      All right, you say, how can I play this game? Well you get a job at HomeDepot, and once a year they give you the opportunity to invest in HD shares, and the company will match what you put up. Now for those with means and in the know, if they put up $10k, in 8 years they will have a million. Now, I don’t know the particulars, but to me the game smells like the saying “if you don’t know who the patsy is, then your the patsy”. The point of all this is that the game is flawed. Who will win this game, the guy who is working with pennies, or the persons with means?

      We are at the tail end of the game where the masses are trying to keep up with the flock flying at light-speed, and if you are lucky, there is time to react, but you don’t have the luxury of time to contemplate the consequences of your reactions.

      Ultimately, prolonged conflict has a way with dissolving years of conditioning and getting ones focus back on the basics of life. One would think that a civilized group of people could organize a civilized game reset, but what complicates it to the extreme is that there are all the uncivilized groups to factor into the equation.

    • Linda December 8, 2018 at 4:48 am #

      Volodya, I totally agree. Love this part:

      “Or could it be that these people are as I see them, ie neither enlightened nor progressive? To my eyes, they show themselves as self-interested, self-dealing, mendacious incompetents that don’t give a shit that the country was sold down the river and who don’t give a flying fuck that they were complicit in this outrage. But maybe that’s just me.”

    • Majella December 9, 2018 at 7:08 pm #

      “Trump promised to deliver for a large class of beaten down people. If he’s prevented from bringing it, I cringe to think what alternatives are waiting.”

      Yeah, but here’s the thing – he ISN’T ‘bringing it’ and is incapable of ‘bringing it’, and it’s not due to the overblown conspiracy that is termed the Deep State.

      He’s has BOTH HOUSES for two years and has achieved what exactly?

      A ballooning deficit on the back of shameless tax cuts for his would-be cronies (if they’d just let him IN the REAL Billionaires’s Club);

      A burgeoning trade war that so far, his agricultural base is suffering most from;

      Has the rest of the world LAUGHING at his stupidity, cupidity & torpidity and wondering why Americans are putting up with it;

      Gutting of ESSENTIAL institutions of the Federal Govt, such as Energy & Agriculture (Michael Lewis ‘The Fifth Risk”)

      If, in fact, he’s only the symptom of the underlying malaise infecting the heartland of America, then you may as well give up hope now. Whether he’s out or in makes no difference to that great heaving mob of the used and abused that inhabits not just the flyover states, but every one on an income of less than $50,000.

  17. Walter B December 7, 2018 at 11:28 am #

    I think it is a critical point that our host, a lifelong democrat and who is, I am convinced, NOT a member of the Donald Trump fan club, can honestly examine this whole sordid affair and see and speak the honest truth of it all. While Trump lovers may indeed by totally misguided as to the wonderfulness of the man, it is the Trump Haters that are, well excuse my French, simply fucked up. I do however see the logic in their illogical assaults here. Jim Kunstler is doing a bang up job of concentrating our attention on the real game, on the actual issues and THAT is a problem for those who would tear US(A) down. They are hell bent on keeping Americans from realizing that by concentrating on individuals they are forgetting that it is the system that is corrupt. It is ALL the systems that are corrupt and all the bashing of Barry, Donald or the next sap will not only NOT solve the problem, it will KEEP YOU FROM realizing what the problems actually are. Ignore the distraction and concentrate on the problems.

    • beantownbill. December 7, 2018 at 11:49 am #

      Very well said, Walter. I, too, have said it’s the system, but I haven’t posted that fact in quite a while. Unfortunately, as I get older I become less tolerant, so I’ve spent a lot of my comment energy on castigating some of the dummies posting here.

      My kind of acceptable disagreement is, for example, if I say solar energy is the best path for us to follow, and another CFNer retorts, “No, that’s no good. Nuclear is the way to go!” I can respectfully argue with someone on that. They are staying on subject.

      But I can’t accept comments that say Trump is an asshole, Trump is a fool, Trump is… yada, yada. And especially really idiotic comments like we never made a moon landing. I wish I could overlook them, but old age has made me somewhat cantankerous. Maybe that’s a good thing. Anyway, I enjoy your posts – keep ‘em coming

      • darrell dullnig December 7, 2018 at 2:06 pm #

        Cantankerous, and a little feeble minded, too, Beantown.

        For just $49.99, I will send you a genuine moon rock, with a little moon dust thrown in for no extra charge. Guaranteed to be as authentic as the landing itself.

        • stelmosfire December 7, 2018 at 2:36 pm #

          Moon Rocks! You don’t say Dullard. Have you been rock-hounding in Antarctica? More likely you picked them up in the cheese section of Wally-mart.

    • Ol' Scratch December 7, 2018 at 1:12 pm #

      Very nice, Walter! You’re spot again, as usual.

    • Walter B December 7, 2018 at 1:26 pm #

      Thanks guys. I believe that our host has garnered the attention of some higher dark powers, as they seem to have been sending in reinforcements for our resident infiltrators. The more Jim digs into the wound the louder they shall cry out in pain. Atta boy Jim give the Cold Steel!

      • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter December 7, 2018 at 3:07 pm #

        I have noticed that too. It seems to happen on another site I comment a lot on. Some DNC types there are like rabid or something, and spew out DNC talking points like bullets out of an A-10 Warthog airplane.

        What makes me suspicious, is how when you ask them a pointed question, they either evade, equivocate, or just repeat what they said.

        It is like they are following a script, and the script says, “Post abcde…if confronted say nopqr…if confronted again, call the person a racissst! and run!”

        I really think it is an organized thing.

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

        • jdhines December 7, 2018 at 9:31 pm #

          Oh yes, we are all organized and taking orders directly from George Soros himself! And getting paid handsomely too. It pays better than writing books! 😉

    • Linda December 8, 2018 at 4:53 am #

      I agree with Bill, well said, Walter B.

  18. volodya December 7, 2018 at 11:39 am #

    They are hell bent on keeping Americans from realizing that by concentrating on individuals they are forgetting that it is the system that is corrupt. – WB

    IOW it’s a diversion while they loot the vault.

    • capt spaulding December 7, 2018 at 2:31 pm #

      Keep the peasants burning witches while the nobility loots the nation.

  19. pequiste December 7, 2018 at 11:39 am #

    I think the U.S. financial markets are swooning not because of the happenings in Baghdad-on-the-Potomac but rather because of a possible trade war with China and astounding market valuations for companies. Behold Netflix at $270 a share with a P/E of 101; they make nothing but “entertainment” yet for legacy industries that used to employ tens of thousands of middle-class people and made world envying infrastructure i.e. Ford and General Electric, that are each solidly below $10 and headed lower because KIA makes better cars and Mitsubishi superior heavy machinery.

    Besides, should China get really ticked off at Justin Trudeau’s impudence in arresting the honorable daughter of the Middle Kingdom’s Huawei Corp. and decides to let fly some dragon fire then stalwart retailers Walmart and Amazon will feel the heat as will Lumpen consumers. Just in time for ( dare I even say it as it will most probably anger Ivy League university students, SJWs, Satanists, Muslims, and Secularists) Christmas!

    • Walter B December 7, 2018 at 12:56 pm #

      An excellent point pequiste for how much of the “market” is tied up in investments in China? How will those investments react to a change for the worse in our dealings with China? Yes they will not like it. I believe that we will be seeing a lot more of this as the Chinese shift their customer base from America to the World Island, through the Silk Road. I also believe that the tariff issue has been set up as a smokescreen for this shift in customer base. It gives them an excuse for sending less here and more there, doesn’t it. It also shifts the blame from them to DJT and, as I said before, distracts simple minds away from the problems with the system and refocuses it on the individual. The individuals you can change but the system cannot be changed. End result, slow burn.

      • Majella December 9, 2018 at 7:19 pm #

        Walter I read your posts with great interest, but this one is a bit odd, in my opinion, for you:

        “I also believe that the tariff issue has been set up as a smokescreen for this shift in customer base. It gives them an excuse for sending less here and more there, doesn’t it.”

        Two things:
        a) who ‘set it up as a smoke screen’? It wasn’t the Chinese was it?

        b) “it gives them an excuse for sending less here…” huh? When I went to school, trade was driven by the Purchaser buying and a Vendor offering as much (in variety) as the trade specialty could demand. I don’t hear of any shortages of of any particular goods that are supplied by China.

    • ” the honorable daughter of the Middle Kingdom’s Huawei Corp.”

      Laying it on a bit thick??

      • pequiste December 7, 2018 at 9:21 pm #

        Maybe a little thick but I sure don’t want my World “Social Credit Score”, which is currently being implemented domestically in the PRC to mixed reviews, and somehow Huawei Corp will have plenty of input into it I have no doubr, to get messed up. Perhaps it already is I am prone to tertiary inspections at the airport among other inconveniences. Hmmm?

        How about a negotiation, like civilized folks, Lil Deb?

        I’ll lay it on a little less thick when discussing honorable persons whose origin is The Middle Kingdom and only happen to be the female offspring of the founder and owner of the the world’s largest telecommunications infrastructure and device company, if you will lay it on a little less thick in remarks concerning your (obvious) employer – The New York Times.

        Yeah, yeah we all know… $6.00 on Sundays at newstands everywhere if you can’t have it delivered to the front porch or yard since not even an NFL quarterback could hurl that mass of dead- tree ink-treated newsprint material from the road to the steps. Might even break a window. Or a wrist. Or the stoop!

        Anyway, your beloved NYT doesn’t even have delivery in my neck of the woods.


        What would Pinchy Sulzberger do?

  20. volodya December 7, 2018 at 11:48 am #

    This shouldn’t exactly be a shock but an article on zerohedge is burbling on about some problems with the Clinton Foundation and Bill’s mixing of bizness and personal and racking up “incredible” expenses, all this allegedly coming from the Foundation CFO.

    One thing though, if history has a habit of, if not repeating then at least rhyming, what will be the FBI’s take on this? It’s like Comey said in relation to Hillary’s email fiasco; no criminal intent. Nope, you just wait, this is indeed unfortunate and maybe sloppy, but it’s all a matter of book-keeping details and misplaced paper-work.

    • Zerohedge is a joke without a punchline

    • Walter B December 7, 2018 at 2:19 pm #

      Well volodya, every foundation that exists has problems, because they are all set up to stretch the law and avoid taxes for the rich. Those that avoid scrutiny do so though their continued power and influence. The only attacks that come to them are when a person or entity in power cares to pursue prosecuting one.

      Whether it is the prime function or simply a secondary effect, foundations allow the owners to pretty much write off their entire lives’ expenses on a tax free basis. Foundation owners can easily travel the world continuously financing everything from travel to meals and lodging (estates) and as long as they conduct any form of foundation “business” while doing so, can pay for it all tax free. Yes they have to have the income, the donations, but for people of power, influence sell at great profit. They run into problems when they lose power for whatever reason and become toxic liabilities from bad publicity or the bad behavior that leads to that. Then the cash flow becomes impaired and they are vulnerable to attack.

      Considering the bad publicity that the Clintons have had over the course of the last few years, it is not surprising that they are coming under attack, it is only surprising that they have not been taken down yet. Patience, patience……

  21. RB December 7, 2018 at 12:25 pm #

    There is evidently some level of naivete here regarding government and our social construct. There are two categories of citizens. One gets away with anything. The other gets away with little or usually nothing.
    All of the biggies in either party get away with everything. The gullible electorate gets nothing or even less than nothing. J E Hoover got away with crimes. Is it any surprise that his successors also get away with it? And just when were the “good old days” that people long for? Was it during the draft when the least who had no power were placed into servitude for the state? Jim Crow days? 60s riots when cities were burning to the ground? When cars were junk and GM and Ford were proud of it? I call BS on the whole damn country and its bullshit, lying history.

    • draupnir December 7, 2018 at 1:04 pm #

      We can’t go back to the past, but don’t worry. Lil Debbie Snak Cakes assured me a couple of weeks ago that we are heading for a wonderful Socialist paradise pretty darn soon now. When I asked her how that was going to be brought about, she figuratively patted me on my gray head and got all condescending and patronizing. She was not willing to explain that to me, but she envisioned all health care, social services, basic income, Social Security, Unemployment, etc will be handled by a single payer. We could even have a little Capitalism thrown in to keep us occupied. Just think of the efficiency. When I threw Venezuela up as an example, she brushed it off as poorly managed. She firmly believes they can do much better. When I asked her where the money was coming from, pointing out that the numbers don’t work, even now, and that the next iteration of the US is going to be, by necessity, much more modest, she went away. Beware of Socialists. Apparently they are incapable of even rudimentary math.

      • Universal basic income. I’ve done the math, it works with a cost savings. I don’t know what methods you used, and don’t care. You brought up socialism, Venezuela, all sorts of canards.

        It would be a completely radical transformation from the system we’ve got now. Understanding why it’s necessary requires a more comprehensive view of everything and a willingness to question fundamental assumptions about life here on Earth, and a skepticism for the status quo in nearly every area.

        Throughout history the status quo has been the obstacle to surmount for every advance and retrenches itself anew with each generation and subject to the vicissitudes of the age. That doesn’t mean the status quo is always bad; it just resists change. And disastrously, usually requires capitulation- it fails not because there were warnings or salient arguments against it. It fails because it is not dynamic enough and people give up on it.

        When life expectancy was short and public welfare perceived to be a moral imperative, on the crest of rapid and comprehensive advancement, society engaged in all manner of tactics using public policy to reduce homelessness, alleviate suffering, care for the sick, etc. This was a major cycle that probably lasted 100 years, 1865-1965, peaking around 1915.

        50 years out and I believe we are bottoming out in the major down cycle, ex., waves of dependency coming on the heels of medical bankruptcy. Already homelessness and untreated mental illness have become very visible on our streets. The stratification of wealth and disparities created by our economy are heating up. We have gone backward- negative progress. If we can cling to the cliff by our fingernails, we just might make it- goes the thinking. It is not going to work. We cannot build a society worth living in by recapitulating hoary old bromides about hard work and capitalist competition. We aren’t preparing ourselves or our kids for a better world but building moats around castles in the sand and fingering our prayer beads.

        • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter December 7, 2018 at 3:16 pm #

          I agree with you. I think entities just reach a point where they can’t be saved. To me, the United States is like Sears. There it is, number 1 retailer in the world for decades, and plenty of money.

          Then, here comes WalMart, and is the problem that Sears could not possibly change its course? I don’t think so. I think that changing course would be sooo radical that the entrenched powers could not embrace the change. Plus, they’re Sears! They’re Numero Uno!

          Or, the United States is like Detroit in the 1960s. Their plan is a new car every three years, questionable quality, and high wages to the union, management, and to the city of Detroit via taxes.

          Could anyone see what was coming? I think some probably did, but how would “Detroit” reposition itself? The unions wouldn’t give, nor management, nor the City. Plus, just look around you! All this money and shiny new cars all over the place.

          It’s like trying to tell a functional alcoholic that they are an alcoholic. They are not going to believe you while they still have a job, and can pay their bills, and get laid. They have to hit rock bottom, and even then there are many who will not recognize where they are.

          I read somewhere that when Mao was taking over China, the non-commie warlords were still doing business as usual, selling weapons, and grabbing up the loot. Then, KAPOW! The whole place goes commie.

          Maybe it’s the whole normalcy bias thingie.

          Squeeky Fromm
          Girl Reporter

          • jdhines December 7, 2018 at 9:39 pm #

            Nice post Sqeaky, I think you are on to something.

        • draupnir December 7, 2018 at 3:27 pm #

          Still condescending and patronizing I see. Show me your math. Put up a link. I’d like to put it up on my white board and take a good long look at it, because it certainly does not work as things stand now. I strongly suspect the figures used are as imaginary as the ROI on the retirement fund of our local public employee’s union investment account(they’ll be lucky to get 10 cents on the dollar). Even the Scandinavian Countries, better managed than Venezuela, I grant you, are running out of other people’s money. It took Venezuela about 5 years to go from prosperity to starvation.

          I don’t believe we can build a society worth living in, given our shortcomings as a species and the number of us currently taking up space. To believe otherwise is magical thinking, another characteristic of socialists and the young and idealistic.

          • “I don’t believe we can build a society worth living in, given our shortcomings as a species and the number of us currently taking up space. To believe otherwise is magical thinking, another characteristic of socialists and the young and idealistic.”

            This is poisoning the well. We can’t do it, so shouldn’t try, because we can’t do it. I am condescending to that point of view- absolutely.

            We provide the existing rube goldberg array of benefits in a piecemeal and inadequate way. We pay for public health- when the poor bastards show up at the Emergency room or our health pros have to scrape them off the sidewalk. Food Stamps encourage people to load up on Salisbury steak and Pepsi.

            UBI’s benefit follows the old ‘”ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. ”

            Even though UBI would benefit the bottom line cost estimates, the real benefit would come from the establishment of a real safety net and the orientation of the labor market from captive, subsidized labor pools to free labor pools.

            Lastly, as we approach the event horizon of AI and robotics, we are going to have to consider radical changes to human endeavors. The canary could be agriculture, where we have a captive, non-free labor market soon to be displaced. The legions of more or less uncompetitive labor cannot be forced into abject poverty without a serious risk to the political legitimacy of the government.

            If we implement sooner, we start enjoying benefits sooner, if we implement later, we can count on a certain amount of damage.


            Add up the expenses: social security (23%), medicare (12%), medicaid (7%)=42% of 1,835 billion total outlays = 770 billion

            food stamps, etc., outlay cost 2016: 70 billion.

            We are up to 840 billion/yr.

            also add unemployment / workers comp insurance (FICA, avg. 1% of every dollar earned- that gets rolled in)

            Benefit amount required:

            Add up the basic amounts of money required for food, shelter (rents), and health insurance, and an allowance left over. This is the maximum benefit. Assume this comes to 1300 /mo or (15,600/year)

            Beneficiaries: assumptions-

            43.1 million = americans under poverty line. Lets assume this is the benefit pool

            43.1million * 15600 /yr = 672 billion/yr

            As you can see replacing these benefit programs, should result in (840-672) or 168 billion net revenue gain.

            Intangibly, raising the standards of living for everyone should release economic dividends that would be enormously positive.

          • jdhines December 7, 2018 at 9:46 pm #

            “I don’t believe we can build a society worth living in, given our shortcomings as a species and the number of us currently taking up space.”

            Precisely the problem. Homo Sapiens are fundamentally flawed. Is it possible that we will evolve our way out of our flaws? Doubtful, but there is a small close to zero chance. A real outlier you might say.

          • draupnir December 8, 2018 at 11:47 am #

            That’s your math? If that’s the case, you’ve been sold a bill of goods. First off, bureaucracy grows like bacteria in a petri dish full of agar. There will be no savings and it probably will cost a great deal more. I imagine there are people higher up the food chain than you who have a better understanding of this. I’m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I doubt if their intentions are as benign as yours. Universal basic income would serve exactly the function increases in minimum wage serve. It will fuel inflation and drive the marginal out of whatever security they’ve managed to acquire.

            What are you people planning, Debbie? Repudiating the 19 trillion dollar national debt? We’d better be self sufficient before you do, because no one will sell to us for a while after that without the exchange of real things. Close down our bases overseas and bring the military home? That’s a good idea, you’re going to need them. With AI on the horizon there are way too many useless eaters lying around and what use are those lives to society? Frankly, it’s illogical to keep more than breeders around. Are you going to put your parents and grandparents forcibly in the ground before their time?

            These sorts of Utopian ideas crop up from time to time and unfortunately acquire the force of religion and are hard to stamp out. This one is particularly pernicious.

          • Majella December 9, 2018 at 7:29 pm #

            draupnir: You’re just not LISTENING.

          • draupnir December 9, 2018 at 11:08 pm #

            Majella, I may not remember what I had for lunch, but there’s nothing wrong with my hearing. No need to shout. I understand Debbie perfectly. I asked to see the math, and she sends me grammar school arithmetic with an assumption pulled out of someone’s butt (probably not hers). I was offended and frankly bored. I didn’t need my white board to see the fatal flaw in that. This is not the first time I’ve heard of Universal Basic Income. Some guy on Mish’s site was pushing that snake oil 10-12 years ago. As far as I can see proponents are an over-schooled and undereducated Idealistic lot, who believe they can repeal the law of unintended consequences and have no clue about human nature. This leads me to believe its a bunch of 20 somethings being led around by the nose. The question here is by whom and to what end? Maturity is a wonderful thing, you’ve been conned so many times you get a sort of spidey sense for them.

        • elysianfield December 7, 2018 at 7:39 pm #

          “When life expectancy was short and public welfare perceived to be a moral imperative, on the crest of rapid and comprehensive advancement, society engaged in all manner of tactics using public policy to reduce homelessness, alleviate suffering, care for the sick, etc. This was a major cycle that probably lasted 100 years, 1865-1965, peaking around 1915.


          Could you develop this thesis a bit? I really don’t know what you are talking about.


          • draupnir December 8, 2018 at 11:58 am #

            She means we live too long and we’re a burden.Otherwise, I don’t know where she got those dates from. There was little in the way of public welfare up until LBJ’s Great Society. What charity there was came from mostly from religious organizations who felt it a duty to take care of their own.

      • Exscotticus December 7, 2018 at 2:48 pm #

        >>> You brought up socialism, Venezuela, all sorts of canards.

        Venezuela is a canard? But according to your employer—the NYT—there’s mass starvation. As in people eating zoo animals mass starvation. And here the NYT suggest that a coup may be warranted.

        A coup for a canard?

        • seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 4:15 pm #

          Isn’t a canard New Jersey’s state bird.

    • darrell dullnig December 7, 2018 at 3:27 pm #

      You are so right, RB. Every US citizen should face the truth of the history of this nation for the last one hundred plus years. Not that we are any worse than anyone else, but that we have so brutally misused our power while claiming to be superior. To make America great again is to support the notion that we were ever in that category. We had the potential for the claim, but our humanity got in the way.

  22. Sean Coleman December 7, 2018 at 12:27 pm #

    I haven’t time to comment but this is an excellent article. The issue is not so much Trump (I like him and his policies, what little I know of them) as the hysterical reaction of his progressive opponents. We are in full witch hunt territory here and when that happens laws are broken, lies are told and appalling errors of judgement are made.

  23. oilie December 7, 2018 at 12:39 pm #

    JHK has shown the terrain on which a battle for the survival of a rule of law will be fought. Serious wrongdoing occurred as the deep state went ape shit in trying to derail Trump and it deserves serious redress, but it will take time and success is not assured. If Huber’s work has consisted of just maintaining a dead letter office then redress may be a long time coming. It might not come at all unless Trump can find an Attorney General with some balls. Even if one could be found, it will not be possible to get a Senate confirmation until January. In the meantime, bet on Mueller trying to stick enough mud on Trump and/or the nominee to make some senators skittish about supporting the nominee. My bet is that we will hear a lot of BS about the need to protect Mueller for the next two months.

  24. revilo December 7, 2018 at 1:01 pm #

    Trump was the obvious call given the alternative. He torched the criminal families that have dominated American politics for decades, and did it in such a way that it exposed their ineptitude, corruption, and the flimsiness of their control. His treatment of Jeb in the debates is the stuff of legend. I salute him for it, and will live with the consequences of a Trump presidency. Earned my vote.

    • seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 1:15 pm #

      His treatment of Jeb was nothing compared to Hillary’s treatment of him. “Putin has absolutely no respect for this woman.” Trump “That’s because he’d rather have a puppet.” Hillary “No Puppet. No puppet. You’re the puppet. You’re the puppet.” Trump I thought for sure he was going to say “I know I’m not but what are you.”

      • revilo December 7, 2018 at 1:31 pm #

        “Because you’d be in jail” is the greatest pwn in debate history. Funny what you took away from it.

        • seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 1:39 pm #

          Except he is a puppet and she’s not in jail. Funny how the facts work out.

      • elysianfield December 7, 2018 at 7:42 pm #

        ” “I know I’m not but what are you”

        The classic Paul Reuben’s defense….

    • capt spaulding December 7, 2018 at 8:38 pm #

      I don’t think he torched the criminal families, he’s just trying to replace them with his own.

      • revilo December 7, 2018 at 8:56 pm #

        It’s possible, but he scorched the Earth on his way to the presidency and put a lil sizzle on the asses of his criminal predecessors. I’m grateful for it.

  25. SoftStarLight December 7, 2018 at 1:13 pm #

    I love you so much President Trump!!!!!!! The East and West Coast Elites be damned. They have proven exactly who they are. And just like the working people of France are saying hell no. We will say hell no too!!!!!! Call a national emergency to arrest all of them and build the Wall. We will support you in all of it. We don’t need Elites anymore.

    • Tate December 7, 2018 at 2:19 pm #

      Sooner or later, some president is going to declare a national emergency & use those extraordinary powers to clean this mess up. It may as well be Trump.

      Heaven help us if it’s one of the “prog” demoncrats like Kamala Harris. If that looks like a probable outcome in 2020, then I’ll be getting my passport renewed early.

      • SoftStarLight December 7, 2018 at 2:53 pm #

        Yes, it should be Trump!!!! He has been quiet lately which his opponents are taking as some sort of concession or something. I suspect he has a lot up his sleeves and is prepping major curve balls per his typical style. We will see. Don’t worry about 2020. We may not even have an election by that point. If he were to live up to all of his campaign promises and we have our big and beautiful wall then I wanna crown him Emperor ;-).

        • seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 3:33 pm #

          Emperor Caligula. I couldn’t agree moe.

        • Tate December 7, 2018 at 3:44 pm #

          He promised he would not only build a big & beautiful wall, but also that he would drain the Foggy Bottom swamp. It appears a Herculean task what with all the traitors in high government positions. Thousands, possibly tens of thousands, will have to be purged from the system for it to return to a semblance of normalcy.

          Then, if the Don wants to retire, Don Jr. can take the reins of government in a caretaker role until young Baron comes of age.

          • SoftStarLight December 7, 2018 at 8:16 pm #

            You are right. Probably it is tens of thousands of bureaucrats that need to be removed from their positions. A giant wall has to go up like right now. And yes, we have to be sure that Barron ultimately assumes the throne.

        • Majella December 9, 2018 at 7:46 pm #

          ” …suspect he has a lot up his sleeves and is prepping major curve balls per his typical style. We will see. Don’t worry about 2020. We may not even have an election by that point. If he were to live up to all of his campaign promises and we have our big and beautiful wall then I wanna crown him Emperor ;-).”

          Jeez. You, among ALL of the Trumpsters, seems to be living in a world of rainbows & unicorns…either that or you’e just taking the piss. I truly hope it’s the latter.

    • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter December 7, 2018 at 4:02 pm #

      Particularly the East Coasters! What a bunch of hypocrites! The NYC’ers carry on about Global Warming, and are quite willing to see some hick in West Virginia lose his job in the coal mine, MEANWHILE – – – wait for it! – – – they brag about being The City That Never Sleeps!

      Right, keep the lights burning 24 hours a day, and the cops and taxis running 24/7/365. Truck in your veggies in DIESEL trucks from 3,000 miles a way.

      Look if we are going to be serious about the upcoming fossil fuel problems, then here is some of what we should do:

      1. Shut down the airlines.You wanna go somewhere far away, take a boat or a train.

      2. End tourism. Really, millions of upper middle class white folks travel across the ocean to spoon near the Eiffel Tower, or tromp around Rome, or millions of Asians come to Florida to ride on a Dumbo Elephant Teacup Ride??? Criminy, how much fuel is wasted?

      3. End professional stadium sports. No more fuel wasted driving 80,000 people to a football game. Not to mention all the vendors, and hot dog guys, Watch the darn thing on TV.

      4. No more traveling concerts! No driving the Rolling Stones from city to city, and all the fans to the arena to watch them, with vendors and hot dog guys. Nope, they do their show at a nearby spot and televise it!

      5. No more bars open til 3:00, or later. Drink at home, and go to bed at 10:00. As a matter of fact, no more Broadway at night, and all nite restaurants except for IHOP and Waffle House.

      6. No more 24 hour retail outlets for everybody all at once. Leave one Wal Mart open one week, and then next week, a Target. Shut down Sunday shopping to one outlet open for a few hours. No more people and employees burning gasoline on stupid, repetitive trips.

      7. No more Spring Break orgies in Florida, unless you live in Florida, close to the beach. Too bad, Northeast colleges!

      That’s just for a start. Of course, this will kill off restaurants, bars, the airlines, lots of people in the entertainment business, etc. Disney World will dry up, and the various 6 Flags, but if we are truly facing an emergency, then it needs to be done.

      The unemployed can be put to work growing food inside like the Dutch, and close to the big cities. No more Napa Valley food for New York City. Grow your own damn tomatoes and lettuce and avocados.

      Is it doable? Sure. Will it be done. Nope. But, we will have plenty of virtue signalling about the Paris Accords, etc.

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

      • elysianfield December 7, 2018 at 7:49 pm #

        That’s just for a start. Of course, this will kill off restaurants, bars, the airlines, lots of people in the entertainment business, etc. Disney World will dry up, and the various 6 Flags, but if we are truly facing an emergency, then it needs to be done.


        No, we would only need to nuke China, India, Pakistan and maybe Canada for good measure (Just to keep those marauding bastards from stealing our women). I would further suggest that we will see my paradigm employed before yours….

      • SoftStarLight December 7, 2018 at 8:28 pm #

        I agree with you Squeeky. If it is such a serious issue then the people who travel most and consume the most should be willing to do more than talk. It seems like they would rather see us fly-over deplorables go completely third world before they would ever consider any changes for themselves.

        • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter December 8, 2018 at 11:04 am #

          Yes, the Climate Shamers should take a look in the mirror. No more “going off to college” unless it is someplace like MIT, or a medical college, or maybe the type of study that needs a lab, or a hands on teacher.

          But majoring in history, literature, marketing, criminal justice, accounting, business admin, gender studies, etc. – – – that could all be done online. No needless travel to and from school.

          In the olden times, I think that is why you had colleges in the first place, because people could not commute back and forth in a timely fashion.

          Squeeky Fromm
          Girl Reporter

      • Linda December 8, 2018 at 5:09 am #

        Well Squeeky, I completely agree and have been saying this to friends and relatives for years. The Paris Accords were useless. Unless we change our behavior we will run out of fossil fuels and revert back to earlier times.

        • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter December 8, 2018 at 11:18 am #

          Yes, and the first thing that needs to go is wasteful consumption. Why in the world make a trip to the grocery store three times a week, instead of twice a month?

          Why drive to see a movie, and spend $25 or more each, not to mention the societal cost of heating and cooling the theater? Geeesh, I love the movies, but if we are facing a crisis, I can just order it up at home, and make my own popcorn.

          A REAL crisis would force these kinds of changes, that would affect everybody, and the jobs of everybody, not just people in flyover country.

          How about we outlaw limousines? Why don’t we outlaw yachts? They burn a lot of fuel. Needlessly. Why don’t we outlaw rock climbing? Sheesh, some idiot has to drive or fly to a dang mountain to climb up it. Helicopters have to be on hand to pick up the pieces when said idiot falls off the rock. Wasteful.

          Why don’t we start penalizing people who drive to work without carpooling?

          Close down most of the fast food joints. You have to drive to them, and then idle in the lane while they cook it, and then drive back to get the right food, because they left out the french fries the first time. Just cook at home.

          Pass a law mandating that anybody who has a house with a yard, must plant an apple tree, or pear tree, or nut tree, or plum tree, or fig tree, or several, to cut down on the need to ship food across the country.

          Pass a law mandating that people who have yards must plant at least a 10 x 20 garden, with carrots, tomatoes, beans, peppers, whatever to cut down on shipping these items across the country.

          Plus, that would give people something to do now that the theaters, fast food places, bars, and restaurants are pretty much shuttered.

          That’s the kind of stuff you do if you have a real, true CRISIS. If you are really, truly, concerned that Earth is heating up. That fossils fuels are on the way out.

          Outside of those kind of steps, all I see/hear is virtue signalling, and Al Gore flying his fat ass across the ocean in his private jet while glomming up a 15,000 square foot home for himself and his masseuse.

          Squeeky Fromm
          Girl Reporter

  26. seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 1:58 pm #

    Looks like they’re closing in on that witch.

    • SoftStarLight December 7, 2018 at 2:49 pm #

      Good, she deserves it. OMG could we possibly agree on something :-)?

      • seawolf77 December 8, 2018 at 10:17 am #

        Naw! Just a neat trick. Total Witch hunt!

  27. amb December 7, 2018 at 1:59 pm #

    The corruption in and degradation of our government has gone on for way too long. Nothing and no one could ever clean this up. The USA has 4th stage cancer throughout its body. Only thing the patient can do is get its affairs in order before the demise. Since the patient is a country as opposed to a person, the denouement will take from many decades to a century to play out. The America that we know and love, the country set in motion by our Founding Fathers, is as good as dead (a vegetable on life support).

    Back to the drawing board.

    • EvelynV December 7, 2018 at 2:27 pm #

      Your fine imagery of the petering out of a once viable entity most likely similarly applies to a fair percentage of the blue hairs with nothing better to do in their lives than waste far too many of their few remaining hours reading and typing gibberish into this black hole of a forum.

      But it still probably beats watching football games all day long.

      • SoftStarLight December 7, 2018 at 2:48 pm #

        So why do you spend time posting here? Since it is such a black hole of blue hairs I would think you would have better things to do with your superior self.

    • amb December 7, 2018 at 2:30 pm #

      Adding to my above post…

      The Constitution, Bill of Rights, Rule of Law and all other fundamental documents and constructs of our government must sit upon a foundation of morality, integrity and ethics in order for them to function. Otherwise… dysfunction and chaos (exactly what we are living in today).

    • Anon1970 December 7, 2018 at 7:43 pm #

      It’s all about the money. You have to pay to play. Here are the biggest donors in the 2018 Federal election cycle: http://www.opensecrets.org/overview/topindivs.php

  28. DrGonzo December 7, 2018 at 2:31 pm #

    Kunstler has gone fully off the tin foil hat conspiracy theory deep end. I miss the old Kunstler, who at least occasionally had something insightful to say about people-scaled community planning, looming petroleum crises, and misallocated transportation dollars. Now he just regurgitates Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity inanities. It’s a sad sight to see. I can get the same crap off of Faux Nooze.

    • SoftStarLight December 7, 2018 at 2:47 pm #

      So again, why come back just to post this? Go back to your Faux Nooze and leave the prophet alone. That would be classy, which is apparently a super big deal to people.

      • DrGonzo December 7, 2018 at 6:44 pm #

        I check in from time to time to see if JHK is back on track with savvy insights on community design needs and methods of weaning ourselves off of the ‘happy motoring’ culture that has eviscerated the soul of this nation. Occasionally, he still does. But less and less, much to my disappointment.

        I’m sorry if my posts unsettle you. Maybe you could just quit reading them.

        • SoftStarLight December 7, 2018 at 8:03 pm #

          Your post doesn’t unsettle me at all. I just didn’t like that you said Mr. K is off on the tin foil hat conspiracy theory deep end. He is telling the truth about current events. He is honest with us about not agreeing with Trump but he also sees the unprecedented and criminal actions executed to take our President out of office. Yes, our built environment lacks a lot. And we can do so much more to save energy and the environment. But the political turmoil seems to be front and center and it doesn’t look like it is going to get any better any time soon.

          • capt spaulding December 7, 2018 at 8:49 pm #

            “unprecedented and criminal actions”. When the Republicans refused to give Obama’s supreme court nominee a hearing, Mitch McConnell said “Let’s let the people decide.” Well the people had decided. They voted Obama in for another term, and he had another year and a half to go. It may not have been criminal, but it certainly was unethical, and goes against the spirit of the constitution.

          • SoftStarLight December 7, 2018 at 9:09 pm #

            I won’t disagree with you on that. I am not a Republican and I definitely don’t like Mitch McConnell’s approach to anything.

          • EvelynV December 7, 2018 at 9:17 pm #

            “unprecedented”?! R U out of your mind?

          • DrGonzo December 7, 2018 at 9:21 pm #

            I’m with Capt Spaulding. You don’t have to subscribe to deep dark conspiracy theories to see democracy being dismantled before our very eyes. Republicans, in particular, do it in broad daylight all the time. Not just the Merrick Garland outrage that the good Capt cites. Also the blatant gerrymandering, the blatant voter suppression, and the latest shenanigans in Wisconsin and Ohio, where the Repubs have decided to CHANGE THE RULES regarding what the governor gets to do AFTER that the people JUST VOTED FOR the new governor.

            Jesus H Christ.

            And don’t even get me started on how the Trump Crime Family’s story ore their Fall 2016 meetings with the Russians has managed to change … and change again … and change yet again and again as more facts come to light. If any of us lied like Trump Junior lies, we would have been thrown in prison long ago. The dude is a walking lying machine.

            If the Trump Crime Family has nothing to hide, they’re sure doing a hell of a job giving us the impression they do.

          • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 12:42 am #

            No Evelyn I am not out of my mind lol. No other president has been treated with as much disrespect as Trump has. And the disrepect has led people in government to break laws to try to remove him from office. They need to be punished. If people would have treated Obama this way we would still be hearing about it 24/7.

          • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 12:49 am #

            Well Doctor if that is the case then they are all crime families because the Democrats are no better. Clintons did much worse and there is a big body count there. But it just never quite seems worth focusing on. It always seems to go one way. Like Democrats never commit voter fraud too. Really?

          • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 12:57 am #

            And Doc, democracy is no good anyway. So let it go the way of the dinosaurs.

          • EvelynV December 8, 2018 at 2:23 am #

            SSL – I agree with you completely about no other president being treated with such disrespect (except for Obama that is).

            In Trump’s case there is so little to respect – his name calling behavior is infantile, his thoughts on grabbing female naughty bits are vulgar, his illiteracy is embarrassing, his limited command of the English language is laughable, his lack of any meaningful personal friends is pitiful, his barely hidden expressions of lust for his own daughter are disgusting, his infidelity to his wife is revolting, his lack of compassion is sociopathic, his craven need for attention is nauseating, his overwhelming narcissism is tragic, his vestigial attention span is shocking with all those other emotions about him rattling around in your dome how does one find room for any respect?

            You’d have to be a moronic simpleton to be able to gin up any respect for the fat bastid.

          • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 11:19 am #

            Well Evelyn there is no way I was ever going to vote for Hillary. Would you be ok listing her moral and personal failures? Many people who so viciously attack Trump for his issues have many of their own. I mean, look at Michael Avenatti. This man was literally becoming a Democrat star before the whole domestic abuse thing came to light. My point being is that everbody has issues. And some of those you mention about Trump aren’t even real.

          • EvelynV December 8, 2018 at 10:05 pm #

            SSL – at the risk of repeating what a lot of other people say about you, you are an idiot to bring up your lame ass Hillary remarks as a way to avoid admitting that what I wrote about Trump is on the money.

            I didn’t and wouldn’t vote for Hillary under any circumstances. She’s as phony and corrupt as Trump so why in your blithering ignorance do you think referring to her has any pertinence the answer I gave you about Trump deserving no respect whatsoever.

            Jeffery Domer was a pretty bad person too but what does that have to do with why Trump gets no respect. I doubt even the goobers who support him actually respect him. The GOP certainly regarded him as a joke before they got jarred into realizing their first string and their bench was seen as dogshit in their own party.

          • seawolf77 December 9, 2018 at 9:51 am #

            I’m surprised those bozos didn’t crawl under a rock and die. Dufus Donald crawls out from under a rock and beats 16 of the top Republicans. All of the stars of the party were all just dogshit in the eyes of the voter.

      • SoftStarLight December 9, 2018 at 3:41 pm #

        Gee some people sound so angry all the time. It’s such a shame.

    • Walter B December 7, 2018 at 4:16 pm #

      Sorry to hear of your discontent here Doc. Personally, I make it point to not visit sites that I do not like and I find it hard to understand why anyone would. Here is a nice site for you to check out. It never offends anyone and promotes the concept that everyone is special, each in his, her or it’s own way


      • DrGonzo December 7, 2018 at 6:55 pm #

        You appear to have lived a coddled life, Walter, if avoiding offense is your metric for living the Good Life. Maybe I should include “trigger warnings” in my opening sentences, and avoid exercising “microagressions” that might upset you or other loyal JHK readers. If Barney the Dinosaur is your “safe place”, then don’t read my posts and just go there instead.

        But it’s a moot point, ultimately: those who disagree with JHK are gradually drifting away from this site or seeing their posts deleted. So you can all feel “safe” reinforcing each others’ opinions, more and more, without the fear of being challenged by ideas that might make you “uncomfortable”. Good luck with that!

        • SoftStarLight December 7, 2018 at 8:34 pm #

          Interesting twist. Using the language of marxists and secular authoritarians.

        • capt spaulding December 7, 2018 at 8:52 pm #

          Barney has been caught sexually harassing the female dinosaurettes on the set.

        • Walter B December 8, 2018 at 4:05 pm #

          No Doc, I enjoy giving offense, can’t you tell?

    • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter December 7, 2018 at 7:47 pm #

      I notice that you do not delve into the specifics of the inanities that Rush and Limbaugh regurgitate. Like what they say that is inane, and why.

      I suspect that you are probably incapable of doing so, having long ago decided that you were on the side of the Angels, and that any sort of explanations beyond that were simply unnecessary.

      Face facts, Kunstler can think, and he can think without regard to partisan lenses. That is rare in the today’s world of cognitive dissonance.

      Thinking is kewl! You should try it one day!

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

      • SoftStarLight December 7, 2018 at 8:06 pm #

        Exactly!! Face it, thinking is really kewl :-).

    • seawolf77 December 8, 2018 at 10:14 am #

      Set to Merry X-mas by John Lennon

      I miss the old Kunstler, so filled with gloom
      From his sanguine reporting, to his suburban doom
      And the patina on his theories, so dusty cats mewl
      The old and the new ones, are no longer kewl
      Have a merry, merry peak oil, and a shitty new year
      Let’s hope it’s peak oil now, without any cheer

      • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter December 8, 2018 at 2:32 pm #

        Hey, that was really good! I love parody songs. I did one the other day on another website for Michael Cohen, and here it is:

        FWIW, I hear that Michael Cohen is asking that if he is sentenced, that he do his time in the Federal pen at Otisville, New York, which, by helicopter, is about 45 minutes from Broadway. . . Hmmmm. Cohen. 45 minutes from Broadway. . . .Parody Song time!!!

        Only 45 Minutes From Broadway???
        To the Tune of the Chorus Thereof
        A Parody Song by Squeeky Fromm

        Only forty-five minutes from Broadway
        Think of the changes it brings;
        From the Armani suits,
        Into prison work boots!
        And the laundry and cleaning up things!

        Oh! What a fine bunch of cell mates!
        Oh! what a gay atmosphere;
        I’ll take the top bunk,
        Try to protect my junk!
        And pray I don’t come out a queer!

        Only forty-five minutes from Broadway!
        I’ll miss all the booze and the chicks!
        And nights at Times Square!
        I wish I was there!
        And not in the pen in the sticks!

        Oh! Why did I screw with those floozies!
        Why did I lie to the bank???
        And my taxes! Oy vey!
        I’ll sure miss Broadway!
        When I hear those old prison doors, CLANK!

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

        If you don’t know the melody, then listen here, at the chorus:


        • seawolf77 December 9, 2018 at 9:48 am #

          Man where did you find that? That must be a hundred years old. Almost ragtime.

          • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter December 9, 2018 at 11:50 am #

            Actually, about 112 years old. But it is an American standard, and you should know it! Like this one, which is now 101 years old:


            or one of my favorites, almost 90 years old, the ORIGINAL version of Puttin’ On The Ritz, which was a whole different animal then the one most people know:


            Squeeky Fromm
            Girl Reporter

          • seawolf77 December 9, 2018 at 7:46 pm #

            Puttin on the Ritz. I could picture Freddie Mercury absolutely killing this.

  29. capt spaulding December 7, 2018 at 2:38 pm #

    I believe a lot that has been said about Trump, just because I have observed his behavior time after time. Up until the time he started campaigning, I didn’t know anything about him. So I more or less started with a clean slate. He comes off as trailer trash, without a touch of class anywhere to be found. If this guy is supposedly our savior, then we are doomed.

    • SoftStarLight December 7, 2018 at 2:46 pm #

      What is the importance of classy behavior? I have no understanding when you say this, and you say it on basically every thread. I like brawlers. People willing to go to the mat. What has “classy behavior” ever gotten us except for the ruin we find ourselves in now?????

      • Ol' Scratch December 7, 2018 at 4:39 pm #

        The elite like to think it’s what separates them from “the rest of us.” That dog don’t hunt anymore.

        • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter December 7, 2018 at 7:48 pm #

          That dog also can’t learn new tricks.

          Squeeky Fromm
          Girl Reporter

        • SoftStarLight December 7, 2018 at 7:52 pm #

          Yeah exactly! Nothing wrong with classy behavior but I just don’t get why it is so important when the house is on fire. And when you are under attack you have to be willing to fight or you are definitely going to lose.

          • seawolf77 December 8, 2018 at 10:00 am #

            I like classy. Anything with an a-s-s works for me. They don’t call it an asset for nothing.

      • capt spaulding December 7, 2018 at 9:05 pm #

        Classy behavior to me means being polite and respectful to people, not behaving like an asshole, you know, not grabbing women by the pussy, etc., being pleasant and so forth. As far as brawling, I’ve kicked some ass here and there, and had mine kicked as well upon occasion. Trump is no brawler except with his mouth, with those tiny hands and those bone spurs, he wouldn’t make it in some of the places I’ve been. If you don’t understand civilized behavior, I guess that explains your politics.

        • SoftStarLight December 7, 2018 at 9:22 pm #

          Well you see what I said above. Gee, I do understand civilized behavior. And I meant the brawling thing in a specific context. I was just aggravated in the moment because it seems like the house is on fire. Lol, it’s funny the way you said “I have kicked some ass here and there.” But anyhow, when you did have to do it I bet you didn’t worry about classy ;-).

      • Walter B December 7, 2018 at 10:17 pm #

        From what I have seen SSL, when some miscreant sticks it to the general public but does it with class, the public not only seems to accept it, but they actually appear to enjoy it! Being told the truth and not mincing words however, will get you hated right quickly. Did you ever note how the uppity snobs so frequently degrade their fellow Americans who live in trailers. Of course these “trash” are good enough to do the hard work while the non working higher classes get the cake jobs and the big paychecks? I wonder how long the doctors can go without garbage collection? Perhaps when they are forced to eat their own refuse they may appreciate that it is a big team with many players, all of which must do their parts for it to work smoothly. Naw, they’ll never get it, they too much “class”.

        • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 12:37 am #

          Yeah Walter I do notice the constant references to “trailer trash”. It is interesting how class and references to ignorance and education come up quite a bit. It’s all good though really. The trouble ahead will serve as an equalizer for us all. And you’re right about everyone naturally having a proper role and position in society. The system requires many working parts and they are not all the same but they have to work together.

    • Exscotticus December 7, 2018 at 2:53 pm #

      >>> He comes off as trailer trash

      A fair criticism. And let us add that Obama comes off as a poetic stateman.

      But when I drive my ailing vehicle to the auto shop, I’ll take the trailor trash mechanic that can fix my car over the poet who tells me dubious stories of a car-free world…

      • DrGonzo December 7, 2018 at 6:59 pm #

        Forgive me, but doesn’t JHK “tell dubious stories of a car-free world”? Read his posts circa 1998 positing that we’d already reached “peak oil” and the petroleum economy was in for a rapid implosion. LOL.

      • capt spaulding December 7, 2018 at 9:09 pm #

        “I’ll take the trailer trash mechanic that can fix my car.” I will too, Exscotticus, but that doesn’t make him a good choice for president.

        • Exscotticus December 7, 2018 at 9:21 pm #

          Well we tried the poet and he wasn’t a good choice either. At least Trump is willing to try new things. Like actually fight for better deals with our trading partners. Like actually making illegal aliens a top priority. To be fair, Obama also tackled illegals, but he had to do it in secret so as not to upset his snowflake base.

    • seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 3:28 pm #

      You can just see him sitting on the steps of a dilapidated trailer, a sweaty sheen brightening his orange skin, the hair hanging down in a tangled bird’s nest, an old caubearator in his tiny hands. “Probably made in Gina,” he mutters under his breath. Some kids ride past on their bicycles and he stands up and berates them. “Hey you kids slow down!” He shakes his head. Sad. Such a disgrace. He picks at his underwear stuck somewhere in between his formidable cheeks and scratches his crotch. “Damn kids. Bet their parents are a pair of Rosie O’Donnell dykes,” he says to no one in particular. “Screw you Donald,” Rosie screams from her trailer window. Donald flips her the bird. “Big dyke. Yuge dyke. Probably smelly dyke too,” he mutters under his breath. Doddering, he walks toward the entrance of the trailer park, then reverses, then stumbles back towards the porch. “What was I working on?” he mumbles, ” Oh yeah. KFC time.” He stands up and walks inside his trailer, sits down to a tub of greasy chicken. “As close to heaven as I’ll ever get,” he says.

      • Walter B December 7, 2018 at 4:21 pm #

        Nice to have such talents as the creative imagination you possess. Rather than wasting it on us here, perhaps you might consider a trip to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue where you can walk up to the gate and apply your talents directly to the residents within. You might even see some interesting results should you take my advice. Don’t be shy, go for it!

      • Ol' Scratch December 7, 2018 at 4:37 pm #

        LOL! Sounds like a few of the old folks I’ve known over the years. But it takes all types as they say, and I’ve learned through long observation that one should never discount the fact that one’s own self might end up exhibiting the same or similar traits should one be “fortunate” enough to live beyond one’s “golden years,” whenever the hell those are. I think that simply inhabiting such a profoundly ill society as ours for a lifetime gives rise to such behaviors at least as much as any lack of personal character.

      • K-Dog December 8, 2018 at 1:48 am #

        Maybe you could have him say ‘damn rice cooker’ instead of made in Gina. Creative spelling of speech idioms is generally not a good idea and China never made carburetors. It was all fuel injection before they got into the act. More likely a carburetor came from Mexico

        Nobody ever says “As close to heaven as I’ll ever get,”
        perhaps “better than pussy”?

        • elysianfield December 8, 2018 at 11:17 am #

          “Nobody ever says “As close to heaven as I’ll ever get,”

          Au contraire;


          • K-Dog December 9, 2018 at 6:11 am #

            I suppose I deserve having to endure that.

            Then someone stole my angel
            And I lost what I loved most
            I may never get to heaven
            But I once came mighty close.

            You got me!

            But really, who talks like Twitty, besides Conway?

  30. SoftStarLight December 7, 2018 at 2:57 pm #

    Mr. K I appreciate you stepping out the way you have to call the Marxists out. Their supporters’ belligerent posts here are so silly. You just see things the way they are and are honest that you don’t necessarily care for Trump even. It is so refreshing to have honesty that I can’t even begin to explain it. Please keep showering us with your honesty each week. Honesty has become the new dreamy :-).

    • malthuss December 7, 2018 at 7:21 pm #

      The market is fluctuating.

      Selling on the Nasdaq reached panic-like proportions Friday afternoon with less than an hour left in regular trade, as the exchange’s Arms index rose.
      The Arms is a volume weighted breadth measure, that tends to rise when the broader market falls, as the intensity of the selling in declining stocks is usually greater than the intensity of buying in rising stocks. Levels above 2.000 are considered panic-like activity.
      The Nasdaq Composite Index COMP, -3.05% was off 3% at 6,969. The number of advancing stocks compared against decliners was at 2,108 to 787, pushing the Arms index on the exchange to 2.068.

      Meanwhile, the S&P 500 index SPX, -2.33% was trading 2.2% lower at 2,635 and the Dow Jones Industrial Average DJIA, -2.24% tumbled 595 points, or 2.3%, at 24,374 on Friday. All three benchmarks were looking at their worst weekly drops since the period ended March 23, down nearly 5%, according to FactSet data.

      • SoftStarLight December 7, 2018 at 8:36 pm #

        So do you think the market is going to crash soon?

        • capt spaulding December 7, 2018 at 9:12 pm #

          Impossible. Not with Trump in charge of things.

          • EvelynV December 7, 2018 at 9:26 pm #

            Looks like the odious ogre of ostentation has hit one of his maga goals judging from the stock market lately.

            A bunch of you gibbering trumpsters must be swooning.

          • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 12:26 am #

            Mmm hmm smart alec. Why do you have to be like that?

        • seawolf77 December 8, 2018 at 10:22 am #

          I think quantitative easing has obselescenced the business cycle. When things get bad, just dump a pile of money on the fire. Poof! It roars back to life.

  31. rollie December 7, 2018 at 3:26 pm #

    So this is what the Friday blog is about, I guess. A repetitive documentation of corrupt warring factions in DC, and their various supposed machinations, that I’m already pretty much aware of on a “yeah of course” level, yet details of which I also strangely and honestly could not give the slightest shit about. Increasingly it’s jjust long lists of proper nouns that utterly don’t matter and I’m reminded of Louis Wain’s paintings of cats in the later years – elaborated into insane and baroque detail that the painter insists is dire and crucial, yet the thing no longer looks anything like a cat. Oh don’t get me wrong, we’re heading for fascism or violence of some kind, but I guess I’ll confine my attention to the Monday posts where it’s still thankfully sort of a big-picture blog.

  32. akmofo December 7, 2018 at 3:41 pm #

    There’s not much to add to what James is saying..

    Keep strong, James.

  33. tucsonspur December 7, 2018 at 4:37 pm #

    A few hundred years ago, this nation began. I was there, and it all seemed really wonderful. Well, there in grade school, learning about Washington, Thomas Paine, Jefferson and Franklin, Francis Marion the “swamp fox”, Paul Revere and all the rest. The Declaration of Independence.

    The years pass, and things no longer seem quite as noble and pure as they once did. But still, it was a magnificent conception, unfortunately followed by centuries of war and blood shed, which we remember well on this day, December 7th.

    We remembered the dead just recently, those fallen soldiers who are mostly forgotten but whose ultimate sacrifice has given us this day.

    And now here we are, in the midst of something so ignoble and corrupt, it’s as if each and every grave marker has been toppled or defiled. It’s an almost unspeakable desecration. These men gave their lives for this?

    If nothing else, Trump has the sense of nationhood, and hopefully a good sense of what our history has demanded at crucial times. How will a country be able to grow from this decadent soil? It will be sick and poisoned throughout, with a poisoned people, if not healed.

    I doubt if Trump has the backing to do what needs to be done. He might gather the guts if he did. Even then, how would it play out? The paradoxical thing about it is that the Left as it is now, with Democracy working for them, don’t really believe in the ‘old’ flag but will probably capture it, in essence mocking the dead and their sacrifices, and allowing them to create a nation that those dead probably wouldn’t dream of defending.

    For the Left, it might as well be capture the rag.

    • SoftStarLight December 7, 2018 at 8:48 pm #

      I hope that never happens. I do believe they want to reshape the country into something we don’t recognize. Leftists make it clear that they want to replace us with immigrants. It is all a desecration to our Founders and those who have fought for us. Democracy must end.

      • tucsonspur December 8, 2018 at 10:47 pm #

        Think of the people who died in Korea and Nam alone, not to mention the more recent Middle East. I pity today’s enlistees, maybe giving up their lives for a decadent nation that they may not realize is close to not worth fighting for.

        Hope springs eternal?

        • SoftStarLight December 9, 2018 at 3:37 pm #

          It is sad to think about the people who fought for our country and to know that there are many people who are not grateful. I always want to believe there is hope. Maybe in the end not hope for what is. But hope for what is to come.

          • EvelynV December 10, 2018 at 8:28 am #

            Hope is the falsifier of the truth. With trump running amuck in the world whatever hope you had must be incinerated by now.

    • elysianfield December 8, 2018 at 11:22 am #

      ” it might as well be capture the rag.”

      I’m just spit-ballin’ here, so bear with me….

      When Trump made his infamous “grab” remark, could it be that he was just describing a spirited game of “capture the rag?” It makes sense in context, since it was a sports-oriented venue.

      • tucsonspur December 8, 2018 at 10:28 pm #

        Okay, but are you sure you’re not throwing curves and fastballs?

  34. janet December 7, 2018 at 6:35 pm #

    “Out here in flyover country, the support for Trump is strong as ever.” –Ol’ Out-of-Touch Scratch

    The midterm elections a month ago say Trump was defeated in flyover country. In the House, Democrats secured the 218 seats needed to regain control. Democrats won Republican-held seats in Colorado, Florida, Kansas, Minnesota, New York, Pennsylvania and Virginia. Republican senator Dean Heller also lost his seat in Nevada to a Democratic challenger.

    In the governor’s races, Democrats gained seven new seats. In addition to flipping chambers in Colorado, Minnesota, Maine, New Hampshire and New York, the Democrats have flipped a total of 333 seats.

    Wisconsin fly-over governor Scott Walker, an influential Republican, lost his seat to a Democratic challenger. Voters passed ballot measures across the country with new laws on voting rights, marijuana, taxes and more.

    Trump has lost control of fly-over country. He may not yet know it… which is fine… preferable actually.

    • Exscotticus December 7, 2018 at 9:29 pm #

      >>> Trump has lost control of fly-over country.

      Is that so? Let’s have Trump show up for a rally, and one of the newly elected lame-duck House members show up for a rally, and see who draws more of the locals.

      Trump’s recent rallies in Wisconsin, for example, a state you claimed he’s “lost”, were described as a “rock concert”. Fans lined up 24 hours in advance to get in. Let’s see one of your lame-duck House members do that. I’m laughing just typing that!

      • seawolf77 December 9, 2018 at 9:44 am #

        The difference is he’s not a rock star. Trumptards fooled again.

      • EvelynV December 10, 2018 at 8:31 am #

        So what? Freaks always draw the most attention in any gathering of people and the less intelligent the audience the more the thrill of seeing it for them.

  35. Tate December 7, 2018 at 7:30 pm #

    Another successful troll for Don Jr.

    AOC: Why are you so afraid of a socialist economy?
    The Don: Because Americans want to walk their dogs, not eat them.

    Lol, AOC got chuffed off & threatened a subpoena.

    Now an ethics complaint will be filed against her even though she quickly walked back her threat (but not her dog).

    • SoftStarLight December 7, 2018 at 8:57 pm #

      She is just another privileged elite. She has Brown Privilege too.

  36. Luhrenloup December 7, 2018 at 7:34 pm #

    You’re delusional!
    You idiot!
    Arrogant true believers like yourself!
    As if you know what you are talking about!
    There you go again spouting nonsense!
    Castigating some of the dummies posting here!
    Cantankerous and a little feeble minded too!
    You don’t say, dullard!
    Still condescending and patronizing I see!
    So why do you spend time posting here!
    Go back to your faux Nooze!

    A straightforward exhibition of the excluded middle as defined by Aristotle “There cannot be an intermediate between contradictories. But of one subject we must either affirm or deny any one predicate.” . . . with ad hominem attacks if necessary.

    The doctrine of the mean comes directly from Confucius. In a debate both parties will be partly right and partly wrong in their argument. The truth will lie somewhere in the middle. One is encouraged to argue for both sides in a debate or to assign equal responsibilities in a dispute.

    • capt spaulding December 7, 2018 at 9:20 pm #

      It sounds like you’re talking about a moderate. I applaud your thinking. Unfortunately sometimes the other party doesn’t afford the opportunity for civil debate. Like William F. Buckley and John Kenneth Galbraith used to do, and afterwards they’d go out to dinner together. People like Rush Limbaugh have changed all that, and vulgarized the political process.

      • Exscotticus December 7, 2018 at 9:38 pm #

        >>> People like Rush Limbaugh have changed all that, and vulgarized the political process.

        Well if the fake news MSM was actually fair and unbiased, then Rush would never have gained such an audience. But if you think this is Rush’s fault then clearly you’ve never watched CNN.

        >>> and afterwards they’d go out to dinner together

        Republicans can’t even go out for a meal without being attacked by the rabid Left.

      • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 12:21 am #

        LOL ok, really?

  37. seawolf77 December 7, 2018 at 7:41 pm #

    The arrest of Huawei’s founder’s daughter is the beginning of the great trade war between America and China. The American government is arresting a woman for selling telecommunications equipment to Iran under the auspice of… are you ready for this… you’re not going to believe it… Because we have to do everything possible to prevent Iran from getting WMD. GROAN!!!!!!!!! Are you freakin kiddin me?????

    • pequiste December 7, 2018 at 9:23 pm #

      No matter, as Canadian P.M. Justin Trudeau is going to, fer sure, get the full-on “fuck you round eye” treatment from his former friends in the PRC as a result of this incredible paucity of political judgement.

    • Exscotticus December 7, 2018 at 9:44 pm #

      The Chinese need to stop developing chips designed to hack. Huawei has been implicated in this. She’ll get what she deserves.

    • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 12:20 am #

      When they chant “Death to America” we should just assume it’s all a game? I am sure they wish us the best and want to be besties. Besties are famous for wishing death to their friends…

      • seawolf77 December 8, 2018 at 9:33 am #

        “Death to America” the new board game from Hasbro. Circle the board ar your own risk. Antifa goon squads are ready to pounce, Illegal Aliens lie in wait, and corporate goons are there to pink slip you. Roll them dice puppies and kittens, but tread delicately. It’s a cesspool.

        And next from Hasbro “Cesspool” Smell generator included, with samples from Rosie O’Donnell and Donald Trump.

        • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 10:54 am #

          Nasty and gross.

  38. Pucker December 7, 2018 at 8:08 pm #

    Theodore John Kaczynski (/k??z?nski/; born May 22, 1942), also known as the Unabomber (/?ju?n??b?m?r/), is an American domestic terrorist, former mathematics professor, and anarchist author.[2][3][4] A mathematics prodigy,[5] he abandoned an academic career in 1969 to pursue a primitive lifestyle. Between 1978 and 1995, he killed three people and injured 23 others in an attempt to start a revolution by conducting a nationwide bombing campaign targeting people involved with modern technology. In conjunction, he issued a social critique opposing industrialization and advancing a nature-centered form of anarchism.[6]

    • capt spaulding December 7, 2018 at 9:22 pm #

      I don’t see what the problem was. I think he only sent bombs to lobbyists.

      • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 12:14 am #

        So violence is ok in the right situation?

        • capt spaulding December 8, 2018 at 11:24 am #

          It was a sarcastic comment referring to lobbyists and their undue influence.

          • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 11:42 am #

            I was just kidding lol.

        • elysianfield December 8, 2018 at 5:39 pm #

          “So violence is ok in the right situation?”

          Of course.

  39. Q. Be the Plan December 7, 2018 at 9:35 pm #

    Is it too much to ask?


  40. Pucker December 7, 2018 at 10:14 pm #

    When they say “Buy-the-Dips”, do they mean shop for some “French Onion Dip”, Peta Bread Dip”, and “Avocado Dip”?

    Or are they referring to bribing government officials?

    • Pucker December 7, 2018 at 10:16 pm #

      Wasn’t “Buy the Dips” the unofficial slogan of The Clinton Foundation?

  41. Pucker December 7, 2018 at 10:25 pm #

    Image: Mother driving along a US highway somewhere with her young 6 year old son. As she drives past a discount factory outlet shopping strip mall replete with a gaudy big casino and strip tease club she tells her kid to cover his eyes so that he won’t turn into a pillar of salt.

    • K-Dog December 8, 2018 at 1:38 am #

      Don’t you mean so his pillar won’t get salty?

  42. Elrond Hubbard December 7, 2018 at 10:34 pm #

    Charlottesville driver Alex Fields Jr found guilty of murder


    “A man who drove his car into a crowd of protesters in Virginia, killing a woman, has been found guilty of murder.

    “Alex Fields Jr, a 21-year-old described by prosecutors as a white supremacist, was on trial over the incident in Charlottesville in August 2017.

    “Heather Heyer, 32, died when the car hit a group of people protesting against a white nationalist rally.

    “Mr Fields’s lawyers had insisted that he had acted out of fear for his own safety.

    “He faces 20 years to life in prison and will be sentenced at a later date.

    “The jury at Charlottesville City Circuit Court, which deliberated for less than a day, found him guilty on all the charges including murder; five counts of aggravated malicious wounding; three counts of malicious wounding and one count of hit and run.”

    Justice served on this premeditated murderer. Let him rot.

    • PeteAtomic December 7, 2018 at 10:53 pm #

      Absolutely. He used his car as a weapon.

    • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 1:13 am #

      No Antifa thugs will ever be convicted for the violence they commit. One sided justice strikes again. Doesn’t matter if they pull a gun on you. If you are a white conservative you are guilty by default.

      • seawolf77 December 9, 2018 at 9:42 am #

        You know this defense usually works for cops, who are always in fear for their lives, even when faced with a Skittles throwing child waving a water gun.

    • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 1:33 am #

      Dwayne Dixon, an Antifa member who publicly admitted on multiple occasions of pointing his rifle at James Fields is doing just fine. Yeah justice served….

      White is the new Black. Leftists have tingles going up their legs.

      • Elrond Hubbard December 8, 2018 at 8:30 am #

        SoftStarLight, I think antifa is a huge boon both to the government and to the extreme right, precisely because they fuel self-righteous, grievance-fueled reactions like this. My answer to you is this: James Alex Fields Jr. has been convicted of his own crime. That is justice, served. If there’s another crime out there that cries out for justice, I join you in crying for it.

        But let’s not kid ourselves. Your sense of grievance over this has nothing to do with the facts. Fields plowed his car into a crowd, period. Fields killed a woman, period. Those are actions with grave and lasting consequences. What are the comparable consequences of Dwayne Dixon exercising his celebrated rights under the second amendment? Who is beneath the earth forever? Where is the family forever bereft? Name them. Thrill us all and answer those questions directly.

        • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 10:22 am #

          Elrond, if you truly cared about all the crimes out there crying out for justice you wouldn’t just post about those which involve alleged White Nationalists. Which in fact is what you do and why you post so few, because they are sparse at best. Why not post about all the White people killed and maimed by Black and Brown people? Andrew Anglin does a fabulous job doing so and the list is endless. But you see, I suspect that White people being killed or injured by Blacks and Browns doesn’t necessarily meet the threshold of concern for you because there is no virtue points to score for talking about it. After all, according to Marxists it is impossible for non-Whites to be racist.

          • seawolf77 December 8, 2018 at 12:34 pm #

            The Daily Stormer??? Are you serious? Andrew Anglin???? Boy once you whities get nazi it’s all in with Flynn.

          • Elrond Hubbard December 8, 2018 at 12:45 pm #

            Since Andrew Anglin is out there doing a fabulous job as you deem it, SSL, I consider myself at liberty to shine my light on other, worthy examples. Each of us has a shoulder, and the ability to apply it to the wheel as we see fit.

            If I were to set myself to decrying every last evil, to moaning and wailing over every kicked puppy and shoplifted porn mag*, would that earn your respect? I think there’s only one set of opinions I could have that would really satisfy you, SSL, but satisfying you is not my goal. As for your remark about Marxists, well, to the extent that your comment is true, you’ll be happy to learn it’s not a trait that I share.

            * Something tells me this grand adolescent tradition no longer exists. Alas, much has changed in the Internet age.

          • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 1:07 pm #

            Elrond, I am not looking for any agreement from you. And why do you trivialize other issues that way? I just think if you are interested in reporting hate crimes to us you could be more balanced. You only post about alleged hate crimes committed by Whites. So you definitely have an agenda as you accuse me of. But in the end you have a right to your speech and I am all for it. But I do too.

          • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 1:13 pm #

            Don’t get so excited seawolf. Did I say I agree with Andrew Anglin in all things? No. I said he does a good job of cataloging violent crime intentionally perpetrated on White people by non-Whites. You just like to have opportunities to call me a Nazi. Have fun!

          • Tate December 8, 2018 at 2:57 pm #

            “… you whities…”

            You can’t have it both ways, seaworld. You can’t claim to be white one comment & then imply you’re not white in another.

          • malthuss December 8, 2018 at 6:12 pm #

            Why not post about all the White people killed and maimed by Black and Brown people?

            they wont.

        • Exscotticus December 8, 2018 at 1:20 pm #

          >>> Those are actions with grave and lasting consequences.

          Elrond, shutting out all conservative professors, conservative thought, and conservative speech, at all universities, are also actions with grave and lasting consequences. It isn’t necessary for you to trivialize the crimes of the Left to virtue-signal your support for justice in this case.

          And speaking of college professors, I also can’t help but notice that you didn’t bother to applaud justice being served to antifada in this case. Antifada and other Leftist groups have been blowing up shit and killing people for decades. Violence is hardly intrinsic to either side.

          The difference is that after all is said and done, after the violent perps are convicted and go to jail, we still have a situation where conservatives and conservative views have been purged from universities and the MSM. No justice in that regard at all.

          • Elrond Hubbard December 8, 2018 at 8:42 pm #

            Oh, you can’t help but notice? You’re not the first to try the Why will my opponent not condemn X tactic, Exscotticus, and it still doesn’t work.

            I abhor all violence. I said so previously, and I say so again now. That includes antifa violence. I reject violence as a tactic in general, and I condemn antifa and the black bloc assholes in particular precisely because they enable crap like this. Not that you’ll stop; as so often, all I can do is speak for the record.

          • Exscotticus December 8, 2018 at 10:46 pm #

            >>> You’re not the first to try the Why will my opponent not condemn X tactic, Exscotticus, and it still doesn’t work.

            Elrond, post a link of you condemning the 2017 Congressional baseball shooter. He was a member of Bernie Sanders campaign—a socialist. It was a pretty big deal. Surely you came out to condemn it.

            Your hypocrisy speaks for itself.

            Also, I think you’d have no problem with violence so long as it’s of the socialist state sponsored variety.

          • Elrond Hubbard December 9, 2018 at 4:12 pm #

            Exscotticus: “Elrond, post a link of you condemning the 2017 Congressional baseball shooter.”

            Here you go, cubby:


            That’s from my personal Twitter feed. You will kindly note the date and time stamp. For good measure, I also commented about the shooting right here on Kunstler’s blog the same day; follow this link, where I wrote: “I agree with Senator Sanders that real change can only come through nonviolent action. If it’s true that the shooter was a Sanders supporter, then he has brought great shame on his cause. Whatever he was in life, he died a villain.”

            You’d think that would be the end of it, but you guys just can’t help yourselves. Not only did you repeat the “Why will my opponent not condemn X” diversionary tactic that someone else already tried on me, you’ve also just tried to catch me out on something that Janos attempted previously, with no greater success:


            There’s no substitute for knowing what you’re talking about, Exscotticus, and I think we’ve established which one of us that is. Even Janos was moved to conciliatory words after I rebutted his accusation. Can you show us that you’re capable of the same?

            As for your slander that I am somehow a hypocrite, I think you know what you can do with it.

          • Exscotticus December 9, 2018 at 5:03 pm #

            >>> Can you show us that you’re capable of the same?

            I asked for links and you supplied them. You did indeed condemn socialist Left wing violence. I will endeavor not to criticize you on this point in the future.

            I would appreciate it if you avoid trivializing the vast and systemic silencing and vilification of conservatives and conservative views at universities and in the MSM. There are many forms of violence, and not all of them involve homicides. Can we agree that conservatives shouldn’t be threatened at restaurants and in their homes?

    • outsider December 8, 2018 at 8:22 am #

      From what I’ve read on “Unz” the defense didn’t try too hard to defend Fields. The fix was in. Kangaroo Court justice.

      • Elrond Hubbard December 8, 2018 at 8:42 am #

        outsider, sometimes the outcome is not in doubt because the case is not in doubt. There is video from multiple angles and plenty of witnesses. Many, many murder trials proceed with less and don’t get called Kangaroo Court.

        Three months before the event, Fields posted a meme to his Instagram account of bodies tossed into the air, after a car plows into a crowd. It reads: “You have the right to protest, but I’m late for work.” You can see it here:


        • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 10:32 am #

          Yes, online jokes by Whites must be used to prosecute.

          • Elrond Hubbard December 8, 2018 at 12:49 pm #

            When the perpetrator has committed vehicular homicide, and the joke serves as evidence of premeditation of exactly that, then too fucking right they must.

            ‘Joke’, indeed.

          • seawolf77 December 9, 2018 at 9:38 am #

            The first rule of writing is to “Show, don’t tell.” Don’t tell me he was an angry young white man with malice in his heart and a murderous rage in his soul. Show me. And by posting that cartoon of someone running over a bunch of people with his car because he’s late for work, he did.

          • SoftStarLight December 9, 2018 at 12:55 pm #

            How do you divine it is premeditation when it ocurred three months before the incident?

          • Elrond Hubbard December 9, 2018 at 8:32 pm #

            Retrospectively, SoftStarLight, which is completely legitimate. This isn’t pre-crime; anyone can vent their political frustrations (lord knows I do) without becoming a suspect for it.

            But when the cops actually show up at your neighbour’s house, and you see them carrying body parts up out of the basement, you start to consider those strange noises you used to hear in a new light.

          • SoftStarLight December 9, 2018 at 10:20 pm #

            I dunno Elrond, I think we just might be getting into pre-crime territory here. I guess time will tell. It sure does seem like there is a concerted effort to shut down certain viewpoints. And to scapegoat certain people. Perhaps it has always been that way, one way or the other.

      • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 10:25 am #

        Yep outsider, the fix was in before the trial happened. You know what’s up. The entire system is rotten to the core.

    • seawolf77 December 8, 2018 at 9:24 am #

      Feed him to the wood chipper.

      • SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 10:36 am #

        Yeah lets do that to all of the Black and Brown criminals too. Think of all the taxpayer dollars that could be saved. We won’t have to keep feeding them for their entire lives behind bars.

    • Walter B December 8, 2018 at 4:03 pm #

      You know Elrond, I simply love it when people take a single case and use it to apply universal logic. I think I will take the same liberties myself. My son-in-law is an urban cop and is in the middle of an investigation over an arrest that he and fellow officers made last week. A Colombian refugee (undocumented guest) living in his town on welfare was running a meth lab with his wife. He decided to import a 14 year old girl and set her up to work in a local brothel, and saved her the expense of costly education by having sex with her for a while himself. When the wife found out, she made such a stink that this dipshit decided to murder the young girl and burn her body in a local park one night. Fortunately (perhaps) for her, the cops busted him during his preparations and before the murder. The police investigation is now underway and this loser is being defended at taxpayers expense. So before you say it, I will offer the blanket accusation that this is just another incident where those damned white people that buy the meth and pay for the hookers have created another white on brown crime, right?

      • Elrond Hubbard December 8, 2018 at 8:24 pm #

        Walter B, I’m afraid I find your objection all but unintelligible. I expressed satisfaction that a violent criminal is being brought to justice. Likewise, I trust that your son-in-law and his fellow officers have the right man, and that justice will be done against that perpetrator as well. My abhorrence for the crimes is the same in both cases, and isn’t motivated by who is what colour. You do me an injustice to suggest otherwise.

        That’s not to say identity plays no part in all this. Specifically, identity was a decisive part of Fields’ motive for his wanton, violent act. And that seems to make the difference here — not to me, but I’m sorry to say to lots of people here. When a man sexually exploits and traffics a 14-year-old girl, no one has any trouble seeing that as the crime that it is. The same should be true of a man plowing his car into a crowd of protesters. I find it truly shocking that the reaction to one isn’t the same as to the other. Both are abhorrent.

        Does this mean I’m taking a single case and applying universal logic, Walter? Too right I am, and good for me. The rest of you all should do the same.

        PS: As for elysianfield, he has hitched his wagon to the fascist star and gone with plain denial that Heather Heyer’s death was the result of Fields’ action. She died of cardiac arrest in the emergency department, as doctors tried to save her life after she was run over by Fields. “It wasn’t the push that killed her; it was the splat at the bottom of the cliff.” This garbage, to be blunt, is not worth anyone’s time.

        • elysianfield December 8, 2018 at 10:14 pm #

          The issue is not the death, but rather the murder conviction…. How are you to divine depraved indifference from a panic response to a violent mob? A manslaughter conviction would be called for in other circumstances, rather than seeking this political focal point for virtue signaling.

          “elysianfield has hitched his wagon to the fascist star….”

          If I have to either be harnessed to such a wagon, or accept this mob-appeasing “Justice”, well then, apply the lash, as I am ready to roll.

          • Elrond Hubbard December 9, 2018 at 8:36 pm #

            Find someone else interested in playing Achilles and the Tortoise with you, elysianfield. I’m not interested.

          • elysianfield December 10, 2018 at 2:59 pm #

            ” I’m not interested.”

            Know the difference between ignorance and apathy?….

            I know, I know…you don’t know and you don’t care.

        • Tate December 8, 2018 at 10:21 pm #

          Did he in fact with premeditation kill anybody? Don’t cite that farcebook post as proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Yes, it’s evidence, but did it, taken together with all the other evidence presented, overcome the threshold of beyond a reasonable doubt?

          Lots of people are going to be questioning this verdict who would have been satisfied with a lesser conviction for second-degree murder or reckless homicide.

          • Walter B December 9, 2018 at 5:54 am #

            If the people who comment here were the final word on guilt of those accused, everyone but them would be in prison or executed and most of the buildings in the country would have to be jails. The upside would be that we would not need lawyers anymore, so maybe there is something to be said for that.

          • SoftStarLight December 9, 2018 at 12:59 pm #

            Reckless homicide maybe, but Antifa goons need to do time too for egging the situation on. Seems more fair and just.

    • elysianfield December 8, 2018 at 5:47 pm #

      Who among us would not do the same if put upon by a violent mob? If my survival depended upon leaving the scene or be beaten/killed, well, say hello to my Buick.

      This poor bastard was consumed by the politics of the event. He did not even run over anyone, just an induced heart attack.

      “…Bob, I’ll take Man II with guaranteed probation and community service for 100….”

      I would like to see your partner’s face if you, along with your wife/significant other explained how you would react otherwise…accepting the tender humanity of the mob.

      I hope this is not a Canadian thing….

  43. janet December 7, 2018 at 11:40 pm #

    I don’t know what Ann Coulter and Tucker Carlson are so upset about. Trump is a “genius with a stable brain” and he is addressing ALL his campaign promises. I have the proof:


    • seawolf77 December 8, 2018 at 9:20 am #

      “We’ll make health care so good, and so cheap… and it’ll be easy. It’ll be easy. You think putting up a skyscraper is easy… this will be so easy. Health care will be so good and so cheap you’re gonna want to get sick. You’re gonna want to use this marvelous system we’re going to put in place of disastrous Obamacare. It’s a disaster. But we’re gonna fix it. It’ll be so much better…” he pauses, his supercilious gaze probing the crowd. He lifts his head haughtily and continues. “Obamacare is a complete disaster. We’re going to repeal and replace it with something much better. It’ll be so much better you’re gonna want get sick. You’re going to get tired of being healthy. Tired of being healthy. You wait and see.”

  44. Pucker December 8, 2018 at 3:31 am #

    “Motivating the likes of Atkinson and Philbrick was a typically American combination of reform spirit and desire for profit. One abolitionist journal called Philbrick “a second Wilberforce and Astor united into one.” In the eyes of these antislavery entrepreneurs, Port Royal offered the perfect opportunity to demonstrate that “the abandonment of slavery did not imply the abandonment of cotton” and that blacks would work more efficiently and profitably as free laborers than as slaves.”

    Eric Foner
    Reconstruction: America’s Unfinished Revolution, 1863 – 1877

  45. FincaInTheMountains December 8, 2018 at 7:55 am #

    It’s not clear how much Mr. Huber can tell the committee about an ongoing case, but he hasn’t made a peep all year, and if his testimony suggests that he’s twiddling his thumbs in the sagebrush, it will inform you that we are headed into real civil war.

    Personally, I do not place much hope in testimony of Mormon Huber, appointed to his position by traitor Sessions (who, by the way, was himself excommunicated from his church for defending his policy of family separation and citing Scripture in his justification).

    But what sounds very promising is the union of the Bush clan and the Trump clan, which became apparent after the nomination to Attorney General of the old member of Bush clan William Barr, which signifies some power-sharing agreement between Trump and Bushes.

    Bushes are no less mortal enemies of the Clintons since the elections of 1992, when Hillary with the help of Ross Perot stole the presidency from George H.W. Bush. Elections of 2000 and fierce resistance of Islamists in Iraq to American military effort during Second Iraq war, undoubtedly organized by Hillary and her Islamist friends, didn’t bring them any closer.

    Let’s hope that the combined power of Presidency – Trump – and the Bush family will be enough to break the spell of power that Hillary Clinton still holds over the American Nation.

  46. FincaInTheMountains December 8, 2018 at 8:45 am #

    This is an anti-Christian war and even the support of Hillary Clinton for her favorite Islamists in Kosovo, Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Syria, and the fact that Islamists, unlike Muslims who worship Issa, ruthlessly destroy Christians who have lived in these countries for thousands of years. And the fanatical hatred of the Black Project for Russia, which distinguishes it from the Red and White projects, is a continuation of the Fourth Crusade, which included Northern Crusades, one of which ended on the ice of Lake Peipsi.

    The support of the Black Project of the USSR is connected with this, when it seemed that Moscow, after Trotsky had reigned in it, would become the capital of world anti-Christianity.

    Moreover, the Truman conspiracy and the Cold War broke out because Stalin dissolved the Comintern during the Great Patriotic War and began to build Orthodox International as the basis of his geopolitics. Moreover, the actions of Hillary Clinton show that she understands – Orthodoxy is Christianity, and the clones of the Anglican Church in America are Christian because the Church of England retained its connection with Orthodoxy, which was manifested in the desire of the Anglicans to convert to Orthodoxy a little more than a hundred years ago and in the Orthodox prayer service, which ended the Republican Convention in 2016.

  47. volodya December 8, 2018 at 10:52 am #

    Rocketdoc, totally agree with what you say about the Republicans and their role in the serial disasters besetting the USA and other countries whether it was in relation to the global set-up of investment and trade, or foreign policy, or war-making.

    But personally I don`t see much of a difference in priorities between the two parties. Consider that Bill shepherded China`s accession to the WTO, the ratification of NAFTA, the repeal of Glass-Steagall, the ‘reform’ of welfare. Plus he listened to the advice of Larry Summers, Bob Rubin and Alan Greenspan and ignored Brooksely Born and declined to regulate the market for derivatives. He declined to question prevailing views even among supposed ‘progressives’ about unfettering capitalistic animal spirits from the deadening hand of regulation. In my view this set things up for the massive wave of offshoring of American factories to China and Mexico and the calamity of the Dot-com debacle which was just the dress-rehearsal for financial melt-down of 2008-2009.

    Later, under Obama`s turn at the helm, when it was imperative that Wall Street get mucked out by law enforcement and the various regulatory bodies, it didn’t happen. You can take a charitable view that various governing bodies at the time had more than enough on their plate trying to keep financial system from collapse. Or you can take the less charitable view that it was a gross dereliction of duty by Obama and his cabinet to exert the necessary effort to accomplish the task. Or you can take the cynical view that, as the party of Wall Street and the Donor Class and the Davos people, the Democrats were in no way shape or form going to bite the hands that feed them. In any case, ìt was Eric Holder`s opinion that prevailed, too big to jail, he said.

    Obama could have ended the misconceived adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan and avoided creating the ulcer in North Africa that still bleeds refugees into the Mediterranean. He had a perfect opportunity to not do stupid shit, yet he declined. He could have reined in the US military and the farcical intel community and the atrociously incompetent foreign policy establishment that together and separately never miss a chance to fuck things up but he stayed the course. I don`t see a lot of difference between him and his predecessor in terms of either domestic or foreign policy.

    You can legitimately say that the Democrat rank and file are all about the right things. I heard talk in the party hierarchy about compassion and being the party of the little guy. Not much in the way of action though. As I said in a past comment, a lot of blab about trannies, gays and migrants whereas the crying needs are for breakfast, lunch and dinner. And, for that matter, paying the rent.

    At both the federal level and the state level, for example California, Democrat governing elites do a lot of posturing about being the contras to the Republicans. Yet, where it matters, the Democrats are all talk. A nod to this grievance or that grievance, which is nice I suppose for those being acknowledged as worthy human beings. But people need help, they need good paying work, more than a shout-out. And California has got armies of homeless and addicted that they aren’t taking of and yet the Democrats there want more people via the conduits from south of the border, people that will have no hope in hell either when they arrive.

    IMO the trouble plaguing the US is that the government, regardless of the party in power, is government of, by and for a handful of billionaires. A relatively small proportion of the American people also benefit as the clerisy that assists and enables. But everyone else is progressively getting screwed, Blacks and Hispanics, first and worst, and the economic and financial gangrene is moving up the societal pyramid.

    There’s a lot of talk about declining life expectancy and diseases of despair. If where things are at is tens of thousands of dead every year from opioids, maybe it’s time to stop and take stock. For those that aren’t in the 1% or .1 % but are currently fat and happy, I would say don`t get too comfy and complacent. If you think your monied masters aren’t thinking about offshoring your work, you`d be dead wrong. You’re just one job loss from severe difficulty, and then one car accident or heart attack from disaster. And any amount of money in your bank account is seen by Wall Street as a gross injustice that needs to be remedied by taking, by hook or by crook, what you’ve got. Just ask tens of millions of Americans. They’ll tell you.

    • seawolf77 December 8, 2018 at 11:07 am #

      Look who is Secretary of the Treasury- Steve Mnuchin. By all accounts, this man swindled more people out of their houses than any man on the planet. He put that “You have to be at least 3 months in arrears before the bank will even consider re-negotiating your mortgage,” meme out there, people believed it, got behind on their mortgages and he swooped in and stole their houses, foreclosing on what I heard was over 40,000 homes. With a name like that you know he is a wormy cocksucker. Trump has surrounded himself with crooks, every last one of them. And the next big stealing is coming. Some kind of way they’ll put a new spin on it, kind of like Eddie Vedder did to “Tender Years”.

  48. Tate December 8, 2018 at 12:35 pm #

    If Larry Auster were still alive, I wonder what he would be thinking… That things couldn’t get much worse? Hahahahaha. Would he ever be in for a surprise! This article, portions of which I have excerpted from AmRen, appeared 25 years ago. How true it still rings today:

    On December 7, 1993, a Jamaican immigrant named Colin Ferguson opened fire in a Long Island Rail Road commuter car, killing six and wounding nineteen. In hand-written notes carried in his pocket, Mr. Ferguson made undeniably clear his motive for murdering a bunch of white strangers: revenge for the racism he saw lurking behind every disappointment in his life.

    Without missing a beat, the liberal establishment rushed in for damage control, declaring that the carefully planned massacre was simply the “incomprehensible” and “meaningless” act of a deranged man. “No more sense can be made of such a thing than of a typhoon or cyclone,” wrote Luc Sante in the New York Times. “Forget the gunman’s declared motive of racial hatred [emphasis added]. When someone with a semiautomatic weapon starts perforating citizens en masse, the question of motive evaporates.” Governor Cuomo of New York struck a similar tone of bemused detachment, saying that the massacre was “unfathomable.”

    Unfortunately, nothing could be more “fathomable” than Colin Ferguson’s act of hatred. “Deranged” or not, he was only taking to its final conclusion the paranoid message that has become an article of faith for all too many blacks in this country: that all of their problems and failures are caused by white racism. If the incompetent black mayor of New York City is defeated for re-election, he and many other blacks blame white racism; if a black mayor of Washington, D.C. is arrested for cocaine use, it is said to be due to white racism; if blacks die in great numbers from AIDS or drugs or black-on-black violence, it is because of a white conspiracy to commit “black genocide” — a theory that one out of three blacks believes is at least “possible.”

    White liberals and mainstream institutions, far from disabusing blacks of this poisonous suspicion of whites, have encouraged it. President Clinton came to New York City during the mayoral election and charged that white voters’ only possible reason for not supporting Mayor David Dinkins was covert racism. Earlier, Clinton had picked Johnetta Coles — the black college president who has publicly endorsed the “whites are committing genocide” theory — as his transition adviser for education. American schools are now dominated by multiculturalism, an ideology based on the premise (in the words of the New York State Education Department) that non-whites “have all been the victims of an intellectual and educational oppression that has characterized the culture and institutions of the United States and the European American world for centuries.”

    Hollywood and the news media hawk the image of a pervasive, barely repressed, racism hiding behind the bland, smiling face of white America.[Tate: see the Coen Bros “A Serious Man” for just one recent example] Businesses across the country hire “diversity consultants” to indoctrinate their employees on the need to get rid of the “white male” way of doing things. Corporations… sponsor a conference of Afrocentric high school teachers, where Western civilization is described as “vomit” and the participants recite: “We, the African community, in the hells of North America, do pledge our minds, our selves, and our bodies to further the struggle . . .” Ironically, while white America is routinely condemned for its “institutional racism,” the real institutional racism in this country is the systematic message — put out by the schools, the mass media, and the whole liberal culture — that whites, and the civilization they have created, are essentially evil.

    Should it be any surprise, then, that many blacks take this message to heart? White liberals think that constant reminders of the sins of the white man will root out racism. In fact, the endless drumbeat about black victimization only gives blacks reasons to hate whites… [Tate: Is that really what they think? Twenty-five years have passed since this article first saw publication. Surely no one believes white liberals sincerely think that anymore, do they? It does make one wonder what their real motives are for slinging this hash.]

    Having given many blacks a motive for hatred, left-liberal ideology then gives them a license to express that hatred. First, blacks are exculpated from their own racism by the bizarre notion that only whites can be racist — because only whites have “power.” Next, society legitimizes behavior by blacks that would never be permitted to whites. When Ivy League schools invite the hate-mongering Louis Farrakhan and his followers (who believe that whites are “devils” created by a mad scientist) to address their students, they send the message that it is socially acceptable to demonize whites.

    We have thus arrived at a moral double standard so blatant and systematic that it amounts to a new kind of racial hierarchy. Anything a white says or does that offends militant blacks is seen as a manifestation of deeply embedded white supremacy, to be extirpated by public confession, mandatory “racism-awareness” sessions, and the loss of employment; the white editor of New Jersey’s Burlington County Times prints a routine piece criticizing a black state legislator for “double-dipping,” and he is instantly [canned].

    But no matter what blacks do, whether they steal entire issues of conservative college newspapers, or spew racist mythologies, or record rap songs calling for the murder of white police officers, or even burn down a city, a sizable number of white liberals and blacks will describe their behavior as an “understandable” expression of the pain blacks feel in a racist society. An appeal for “understanding” that consistently goes only one way should be recognized for what it is — an attempt to disarm whites morally while continuing to unleash black aggression.

    Thus, while liberals see the massacre on the Long Island Rail Road as a further argument for gun control, they continue to ignore the real gun control problem in this country: that it is the liberals themselves who have helped place the loaded gun of racial hatred and vengeance in the hands of blacks. And when a black fires that gun, the liberals, with a philosophical shrug, call the act “unfathomable.”

  49. volodya December 8, 2018 at 12:37 pm #


    It’s an interesting thing, they set up “incentives” that a lot of people can’t resist, and so they take the plunge. But you with the likes of Goldman Sachs amounts to a minnow jumping into a shark tank.

    I have to say they’re good at it. They’ve spent decades refining the pitch, and it’s more or less the same no matter where you go, in the long run, no matter what period you look at, with a diversified portfolio, you can’t lose. It makes me laugh, when they talk about risk tolerance, they always put it in terms of whether you can sleep at night. Of course, if you’re a wimp, a lily-livered ninny, then don’t buy in. But if you’re a real man, if you can keep your nerve over a few market bumps here and there, you’ll be amply rewarded.

    Naturally, they neglect to tell you that between 1965 and 1982 the Dow more or less finished where in started, and an investor would have gotten eaten alive by management fees and rampant inflation. Let’s not talk about 1929 to 1954, nor 2000-2010. Long run? Yes, the long runs that bolster the sales pitch, not the long run that doesn’t.

    Then there’s peer pressure. Do you work in the corporate sector? Do you invest in stocks or mutual funds? Why not? Anybody that knows anything does it, so is there something wrong with you? Are you a wimp? Are you intellectually deficient? Bad at managing money? Do you have a gambling, drinking, drug problem? You have to be seen to be doing what the others do. In the not so distant past, if you didn’t smoke or drink, there was something “off” about you, something questionable. You smoked at your desk, you DRANK at your desk, as we did, Friday afternoons.

    As you say, people go with the flock. Millions of people can’t be wrong, can they? Well, yes they can, people have a tendency to let others do the thinking, you know, EXPERTS. Expertise, yes, these people that present themselves as “experts, they’re degreed, they’re well-spoken, well-dressed people, they have got the weight of custom and the law and institutions behind them. Do you know better than them? Too late people learn that so-called “experts” know nothing, they tout knowledge and experience, but in reality the “knowledge” is bogus, it’s presented as a well established corpus to separate you from your money.

    As you say, eventually people have got to focus on the basics, you have to eat and drink and clothe yourself, you need shelter and medical care. Reality asserts itself, comforting illusions dissolve and things are revealed for what they are

    • beantownbill. December 8, 2018 at 3:13 pm #

      I can personally attest to your accurate description of the corporate culture, of which I was a part in the early ‘70’s. There was lots of pressure to conform to what the corporation thought was proper behavior. I’ve always been a rebel, so I didn’t try to conform, mostly. I wore a raggedy sports jacket instead of a suit. I wore colored shirts instead of a white one. I had very long hair, instead of short. It was a miracle I didn’t get fired, but for some reason management liked me.

      I had done the typical college drinking. At work, I had an expense account where I’d take clients to lunch (mostly to the Playboy Club). I’ll never forget my first client lunch. I thought I was a decent drinker, but with the corporate types I was a rank amateur. We ordered a round of drinks, and before I had taken a few sips, a second round was ordered. Soon, I had FIVE lined up in front of me, and I was the only who had a line. I looked around the table, and none of the clients showed the slightest sign of drunkenness. Anyway, after a few rounds more, I managed to end up having three cocktails.

      When I got back to the office, I staggered in and promptly fell on the floor. Yep, those Jews really can’t drink. Once I sobered up a little, I realized I was in with a bunch of functional alcoholics. Having 7 or 8 cocktails at lunch was routine for them. The pressure to conform was subtle, but very strong.They never said I was a wuss; they just kept ordering rounds for me, and after a while I tried to keep up.

      Never again did I let that happen. I didn’t give a shit what they may have secretly thought of me.

      • volodya December 9, 2018 at 2:34 pm #

        From what I saw Mad Men culture was prevalent not just in the 1950s and 1960s but throughout the 1970s and 1980s and then started to peter out in the 1990s. Right now it seems that everybody’s waking on eggshells but even in the 1990s chicks in the office weren’t the fragile, shatterable-at-a-glance vessels they are now.

        At least in my experience corporate life was consistently a rough and tumble environment, a Darwinian survival-of-the-fittest jungle where you had to be one of the boys, and if you weren’t, you had to put up a reasonable show.

  50. SoftStarLight December 8, 2018 at 12:52 pm #

    The United Nations Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration will provide participating countries with a legal framework for legislation that would essentially criminalize any speech opposing immigration. The main objective is to replace native Western populations with Third World populations of course. But just think, even arguments against immigration from an environmental or resource conservation angle could be outlawed. Another disaster made possible by Globalism and Elites.


  51. Tate December 8, 2018 at 4:55 pm #

    Hamblen’s car was found that day, but nearby security footage showed him getting into a Ford Focus. Police received information that the Focus was parked in the 1300 block of Michigan.”


    Just another reason that whites should not do drugs. And especially should not do business with blacks selling drugs.

    Or alternatively, why drug laws regarding marijuana should be liberalized, allowing the legal sale or home-grow of such. Mind you, I don’t approve of doing drugs.

    • SoftStarLight December 9, 2018 at 12:49 pm #

      Yep, good point. You just can’t deal with some people. And you shouldn’t have to deal. Plants are plants, why outlaw them :-).

  52. FincaInTheMountains December 8, 2018 at 6:08 pm #

    If nuclear was becomes a consequence of this and if anybody will be able to survive this war then no doubt this war will be named in history books “Stormy Daniels War”

    Five bombshells from the Michael Cohen memos, including information he’s given Mueller


    • Exscotticus December 8, 2018 at 7:00 pm #

      I don’t see any “bombshells” here. No Trump Russia collusion. Unlike Team Hillary and the FBI—no money exchanged hands for dirt or influece. And unless Cohen has an email or recording of Trump saying, “Use the CAMPAIGN FUNDS do you hear me I said the CAMPAIGN FUNDS to pay off these floosies!” then Trump didn’t violate any “campaign finance laws”. Incidentally, the same cannot be said of Obama—and he wasn’t impeached.

      It doesn’t really matter because Dems can impeach Trump for any reason or no reason at all. Of course Dems are desperate to find a charge that has the appearance of a legitimacy, but everyone knows it’s nothing more than politics. If it seems like Dems have the votes, best thing House Republicans can do is not even take part at all. Just let the Dems have their TDS moment and then the Senate will squash it.

      • seawolf77 December 8, 2018 at 7:35 pm #

        Oh yeah. Manafort takes the job as campaign manager and he says he’s gonna work for free. Here’s a man who has taken $75 million for foreign powers for the same work. Well if the Trump campaign isn’t payin him, who is?

        • Exscotticus December 8, 2018 at 10:23 pm #

          Oh look it’s no-link seasquirt making more TDS accusations. Nothing to say about Obama committing multiple violatings of campaign finance laws? By your logic, that’s impeachment, yes? Post a link where you demanded that Obama be impeached for his MULTIPLE violatings of campaign finance laws. No link? TDS strikes again!

          • seawolf77 December 9, 2018 at 9:04 am #

            Shriller and shriller you go, the Obama lump on the brain, the Hillary laugh don’t you know, a choo choo choo choo train, Off it goes with your mind, to the Trump land for the blind, where the sky is orange and the dicks are small, he’s still California Dreamin for his wall. Trumptards fooled again.

  53. Pucker December 8, 2018 at 6:55 pm #

    Contemplating “The Rapture”, the evangelical preacher rubs some salt on his erect penis just before the dumb blond girl from his congregation puts it into her mouth.

    Is the “Pillar of Salt” or salty Pillar a metaphor for a large male Erection?

    Image: Mother driving along a US highway somewhere with her young 6 year old son. As she drives past a discount factory outlet shopping strip mall replete with a gaudy big casino and strip tease club she tells her kid to cover his eyes so that he won’t turn into a pillar of salt.

  54. Pucker December 8, 2018 at 7:09 pm #

    Idea for a new Reality TV Show: Ask devout, but otherwise “Slow” average, banal blokes and birds of different nationalities, religions, and ethnicities philosophic, moral, and ethical questions purposefully evoking sharply conflicting answers. Have a panal of Well-educated elitist Yankees who laugh at and mock them.

    First Question:

    Is miscegenation the answer to world peace?

    the interbreeding of people considered to be of different racial types.
    “they believe in miscegenation as the answer to world peace”

  55. Pucker December 8, 2018 at 7:18 pm #

    As a corporate lawyer for the railroads and as a consummate politician, Lincoln was a Big Pragmatist. In conceiving a program of Reconstruction in Louisiana post-Emancipation Proclamation, he proposed that sufferage be given only to “intelligent negroes”. I bet that at the time there were heaps of “intellect negroes” in Louisiana? What-the-Fuck did Lincoln mean by “intelligent negro”? He didn’t say educated negro? I suspect that Lincoln meant “mulattoes”? Because of the French influence and “Progressive” French sexual proclivities, there were heaps of mulattoes in New Orleans.

  56. Pucker December 8, 2018 at 7:27 pm #

    Was Lincoln very cleverly encouraging the negroes to mix with the Whites?

    the interbreeding of people considered to be of different racial types.
    “they believe in miscegenation as the answer to world peace”

    • Tate December 8, 2018 at 8:35 pm #

      “they believe… ”

      Who’s “they”?

      Never mind, we know the answer.

      As long as it doesn’t affect “them.”

      • SoftStarLight December 9, 2018 at 12:37 pm #

        Lincoln really messed up with the whole failure to repatriate thing.

        • dorn December 9, 2018 at 5:24 pm #

          In fairness, his time did get cut short.

          • SoftStarLight December 9, 2018 at 6:26 pm #

            Well yeah, there is always that.

  57. janet December 8, 2018 at 7:32 pm #

    “We’re very happy with what we’re reading because there was no collusion whatsoever,” Trump told reporters Saturday (Dec. 8, 2018)

    Trump told reporters he has not read the court filings, which detail alleged lies Cohen and Manafort told publicly and to investigators.

    Even if he had read them he would not have been able to read the redacted text or the sealed filings. Despite not having read the filings. Despite the filings being redacted, impossible to read, Trump says he is very happy “there was no collusion”. Trump is an idiot. What we already have is more than enough proof of collusion with Russia.

    Mueller has uncovered at least 12 Trump associates had contacts with Russians during the campaign or transition, with at least 19 face-to-face interactions with Russians or Kremlin-linked figures and at least 51 individual communications.

    Trump aides known to have had contact with Russians include the president’s son-in-law and adviser Jared Kushner, his son Donald Trump Jr, former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, and the Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

    These interactions with foreign nationals are not routine during a White House campaign. What’s more, three Trump aides have now admitted lying about these encounters. What are they covering up? Why did they lie, if there was no quid pro quo collusion happening?

    And since when did “process crimes” become OK? Aren’t Republicans supposed to respect the process, and the law? Republicans say they are the “law and order” party. Now it seems “process crimes” are not serious and should not be prosecuted? What hypocrites!

    • akmofo December 8, 2018 at 10:19 pm #

      I just wonder how many years Mueller would sit Janet in prison for the lies s/he tells. I would guess just on the performance here it would be several lifetimes. Of-course given the bankrupting expense of facing the unlimited resources of the gov mafia, maybe Mueller would be doing Janet a favour in providing Janet with a warm cell room and three meals a day. Maybe even 24hr Internet to troll nonsense to strangers all day and night.

    • Exscotticus December 8, 2018 at 10:33 pm #

      >>> Mueller has uncovered at least 12 Trump associates had contacts with Russians during the campaign or transition, with at least 19 face-to-face interactions with Russians or Kremlin-linked figures and at least 51 individual communications.

      OMG! Face-to-face interactions with Russians! Obama also met with Russians—with Putin no less! Who knows what Obama promised in exchange for Putin helping him with the 2012 election. Clearly this is proof of Obama Russia 2012 election collusion!

      If “having meetings with Russians” is all you’ve got, then I guess Obama will be indicted any day now. Got anything else? Show us money exchanging hands for dirt or influence—just like the FBI did when they paid agent Steele to work on the anti-Trump dossier.

  58. PeteAtomic December 8, 2018 at 9:09 pm #

    What’s so tragic Jim is that these 2 camps who are engaged in “capture the flag”, don’t have any new solutions to deep, cascading, system & institutional failures. If all the problems the country faced were represented by a light on a control panel, and if that light for that problem flashed red representing a crisis in that particular facet in the economy, society or environment, then that control panel would be lighting up brighter then the massive Christmas Trees they haul over to NYC, there.

    I just got finished reading a bevy of articles regarding such diverse tops such as the serious deficiencies with social security payments, the largely detrimental effect of climate change on the US economy with crop failure and superstorms, and how the middle class in the US is quickly disappearing. This was just in one, short sitting. Any casual observer to the American body politic can quickly and easily see the glaring troubles developing. But yet what do the 2 major parties insist on doing? Are they having emergency cabinet meetings or all night Congress sessions to attempt to craft some kinds of policy responses to these crises? Of course not. Little if nothing is being addressed. The democrats, who have this great opportunity to show themselves as some kind of relevant force for common sense post-midterm elections, are spending their energy on going after Trump, and plotting how to take the Executive branch. What would they do with the Executive? I don’t think anything. I don’t believe it has to do about anything, other than the naked and uncontrolled ambition for power & control over others.

    So, what do? I argue that the best thing any of us individuals can do is essentially ignore what is happening in DC. Particularly if you are in the deep provinces like me, where the fact that where I live could have as easily been a Canadian territory, and not a US one. The best thing for the individual to do is work locally. Make your area and your town better. Get to know your neighbors better. Give your money to local businesses, who have an actual stake in what the hell happens in your community.

    I think that’s the best solution, common sense solution. Make your own area and locale a place you can give a shit about.

    • Walter B December 9, 2018 at 5:23 am #

      I do believe that I have been saying the same thing Pete, you are absolutely. And another thing to avoid and ignore are the brainless idiots that continue to whine here that all we have to do is remove Trump and replace him with Pelosi. Let us all start by ignoring that. Silence it. Let it drool on without end.

    • SoftStarLight December 9, 2018 at 12:35 pm #

      If every one actually did this it would change our entire society. The only fly in the oinment is that DC has incredible powers over our lives. If you think about, it’s sort of like DC, NYC, and LA control the whole country on different levels. Those powers have to be removed before you can really get started IMO.

  59. PeteAtomic December 8, 2018 at 9:14 pm #

    This is how I feel about the whole Antifa/commie vs. Nazi/nationalist street fighting:


    I don’t need your civil wars, man


    • SoftStarLight December 9, 2018 at 12:26 pm #

      I understand where you are coming from. It would be so nice if we lived in a utopia. But until then it seems like we are stuck with varying states of war.

  60. FincaInTheMountains December 8, 2018 at 10:19 pm #

    Paris: The actress of the big and small theater


    • tucsonspur December 8, 2018 at 11:21 pm #

      Passion, fire and fury. Here she is in different form by Delacroix:


      Are you in Love?

      • FincaInTheMountains December 8, 2018 at 11:46 pm #

        She’s playing out artificial hysteria

        It’s a show, the question is who’s directing?

        • PeteAtomic December 9, 2018 at 12:09 am #

          Does anybody know with the French?

  61. janet December 9, 2018 at 12:11 am #

    “If “having meetings with Russians” is all you’ve got…” –exscotticus

    Exscotticus, the puzzle pieces fit together. Trump needed Russia for his business dealings. Russia wanted Trump to win because they could influence or control him. And the Trump team wanted Russian help simply because they thought the Russians could help Trump win the election. Everyone profits, everyone gets what they want.

    Trump is guilty of conspiracy against the United States, obstruction of justice, witness tampering, money laundering, treason, etc. a host of high crimes and misdemeanors that constitute impeachable offenses from executive abuse of power. Won’t be long now.

    • Exscotticus December 9, 2018 at 12:31 pm #

      >>> Exscotticus, the puzzle pieces fit together..

      Only in a TDS-addled mind. If meeting with Russians is a crime then there goes most of DC—including Pelosi.

      Here’s Pelosi caught LYING about her MEETING WITH THE RUSSIAN EMBASSADOR! That right there is a process crime! Oops!

  62. janet December 9, 2018 at 1:40 am #

    “that constitute impeachable offenses from executive abuse of power. Won’t be long now.” –janet

    “I think what this totality of today’s filings show that the House is going to have little choice, the way this is going, other than to start impeachment proceedings.” –Former Nixon White House lawyer John Dean

    Dean, who served time in prison for his involvement in the Watergate scandal, was discussing a sentencing memo from the Manhattan US attorney’s office, which was the first time prosecutors have said Cohen acted at the direction of Trump when the former fixer made payments to silence women who claimed to have had affairs with Trump prior to his time running for office.

    • PeteAtomic December 9, 2018 at 2:00 am #

      Is there victory for you Janet.

      What’s the “win”?

      or this is a endless war?

      • PeteAtomic December 9, 2018 at 2:01 am #

        same for ExScot

        Endless war?


        • Exscotticus December 9, 2018 at 12:33 pm #

          Dude for me this is all Orwellian.

          janet keeps screaching that 2 + 2 = 5, and I just correct her. That’s all it is, week after week.

      • janet December 9, 2018 at 2:19 am #

        Pete Atomic, not endless at all. Mueller has Trump / Pence / Kavanaugh dead to rights with more than three dozen sealed criminal indictments on the DC docket. This is the end game.

        Victory is right around the corner. 67+ votes in Senate for conviction will be forthcoming once Senators see the evidence uncovered by the House investigation. Trump will be gone. Pence will be gone. Kavanaugh will be gone. Say hello to President Pelosi.

        President Pelosi will work on important issues that will benefit Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and all those who are fed up with politics. Pelosi will lead bipartisan efforts to work on health care, on race, on climate change, on gun violence, on illegal immigration, etc. and won’t make everything about herself.

        Winning? Yes. For everyone except those criminally indicted.

        • elysianfield December 9, 2018 at 11:36 am #

          “President Pelosi”

          “…we, we have to vote for the bill to find out what is in it….”

          I would suggest that anyone accepting Pelosi’s comment as having merit should not be allowed to breed.

          Just sayin’

        • Exscotticus December 9, 2018 at 12:22 pm #

          >>> 67+ votes in Senate for conviction will be forthcoming once Senators see the evidence uncovered by the House investigation. Trump will be gone. Pence will be gone. Kavanaugh will be gone. Say hello to President Pelosi.

          LOL. janet’s TDS has reached the terminal phase.

  63. Pucker December 9, 2018 at 4:59 am #

    I wonder to what extent incarceration is a method for getting “freed” people to work?

    “In the meantime, by working for wages, they would internalize a market orientation, so that as landowners, they would become productive cotton farmers and a “large new market… [for] Northern manufacturers.” 36 Sent to the Sea Islands to oversee the experiment, Philbrick sought to create a model free-labor environment, with blacks neither exploited by their employers nor lapsing into dependency upon the government. In order to “multiply their simple wants” and stimulate their desire for cash wages, he established plantation stores, placing a variety of “knick-knacks and household comforts” from the North within the freedmen’s reach.”

    Eric Foner
    Reconstruction: America’s Unfinished Revolution, 1863 – 1877

    • Pucker December 9, 2018 at 5:37 am #

      The Yankees are obviously insane….

    • K-Dog December 9, 2018 at 6:17 am #

      Creature comforts like stout beer, crack cocaine and weed perhaps? That seriously multiplies wants!

      knick knack paddy wack Give a dog a bone!

      • Pucker December 9, 2018 at 7:01 am #

        The Yankees confiscated most cotton plantations for non-payment of Taxes. The “freed” slaves were put to work as “contract laborers” picking cotton and paid wages set by the Yankees. The Union armies kept the slaves from running away and enforced discipline. The idea was that the “freedmen” would develop a Capitalist mindset if given a bit of cash and a modicum of consumer goods to buy in the small stores set up by the Yankees on the Plantations. I’m not sure what consumer goods were stocked in the stores, but I bet that it included grain alcohol?

        • Tate December 9, 2018 at 12:18 pm #

          Are you saying that Yankee carpetbaggers invented the sharecropper system?


          • Pucker December 9, 2018 at 6:33 pm #

            Lincoln was a Big Pragmatist. Lincoln wanted to give room to southern Plantation owners to collaborate with the Yankees in the lucrative cotton trade during the Civil War to feed the Northern war machine. Plantation owners were paid for their cotton in gold and they made a killing. Southern Plantation owners who didn’t cooperate were dispossessed and the Union officials (often US Treasury people) often stepped into their shoes as Plantation owners to continue the lucrative cotton business. The modus operandi was largely to change the form rather than the substantive of slavery. “Free Labor” to the Yankees meant wage Labor, or contract labor. “Freedom” to the Slave meant not having to work anymore. The big issue for the materialist Yankees was how to get the former slaves to work again, and ideally work harder and more productively than before? The Yankees thought that the “Freedmen” would eventually come around and bust their asses picking cotton for wages that would be spent on Yankee consumer goods. Of course, it didn’t Happen since slavery was the most productive labor system in the Plantation business. I’m not sure if freed black slaves ever fully adopted the Capitalist mindset of working for wages to generate and to reinvest a surplus? If the blacks never absorbed the Wage Labor mindset, then that may have prompted the creation of a different labor system in the form of prison labor to get the “freedmen” to work? Modern welfare may be a hidden support for the modern prison labor system as it discourages Wage Labor?

          • Tate December 9, 2018 at 7:55 pm #

            We just voted prison slavery out here. Prisoners can no longer be forced to perform labor for some pittance. Good I say, at least it strikes a blow to the prison industry. Should prisons be run by corporations? F*ck no.

  64. seawolf77 December 9, 2018 at 9:15 am #

    After General Kelly is gone, it’ll be 72 year old Trump and a bunch of 30 somethin’s. I think we’re going to miss the level of maturity we enjoy now.

  65. elysianfield December 9, 2018 at 11:58 am #

    Walter, This is for you;


    I realize that is “just” High School ROTC, but….

    • Walter B December 9, 2018 at 4:31 pm #

      I am not sure that I know how to respond to that one es, wow. Got to give the girl props for her fortitude but I am not so sure that I would care to have a pre-wounded soldier in my squad on patrol as Point Man or Tail End Charlie. Could probably function at 100% in admin or supply though. I wish her the best of good fortune.

      • elysianfield December 9, 2018 at 7:40 pm #

        In our day, you could be denied a commission for…excessive ugliness, at least in the USAF.

        Standards changed to appear politically correct do not in any way benefit the service. The girl should be allowed to be “all that she can be”…just not in the military.

        • Walter B December 9, 2018 at 8:21 pm #

          Yes I know ef, but after all, she can stop a bullet just as well as the next guy, if you know what I mean. Nothing makes any sense at all anymore and in the old days something like this would be dismissed because it might lead America’s enemies to think that we were weak and vulnerable. But apparently today, they make combat boots that will allow you to fire your weapon with one foot while you charge the enemy hopping along on the other. It is all beyond my pay grade my friend.

          • capt spaulding December 10, 2018 at 6:08 am #

            Yes, but I hear that she gives one helluva foot job.

  66. SoftStarLight December 9, 2018 at 12:09 pm #

    You know, the criminal justice system is really messed up. So many convictions are unfair. So many lives wasted in prison. And so many people doing bad things and walking free. Oh well, life isn’t fair they say.

    • Tate December 9, 2018 at 12:34 pm #

      Over the years they’ve stitched together something that works under the veneer of legality imposed by the Warren court.

      If you’ve ever been in a law court even for the purpose of challenging a parking violation, you know it’s something to be avoided at all costs. If you live in the wrong section of the city, you need to become a recluse. Even if you don’t live in the wrong section of the city, you need to become a recluse. But that’s just in America.


      “Even at that low point, I start to kid myself that happiness is just a state of mind, and there’s no reason why I can’t be just as happy in America. And it actually works for about the first month I’m back, I bounce around America with a wink and grin, and America smiles back.

      “After one month, the reality starts to dawn on me, and I become ever more cautious. My interactions with people become increasingly businesslike, and I dread any unnecessary contact with anyone. All the fake smiles and ‘have a nice day’ start to ring increasingly hollow, and the sneers become more and more menacing. Even places I visit on a regular basis seem less and less hospitable. I feel like a burden wherever I go, and I view everyone as an unavoidable obstacle to my goal of leaving without any trouble.”

      • SoftStarLight December 9, 2018 at 1:21 pm #

        You know it’s funny. I have never been outside of the country but I have always wanted to go to New Zealand. Of course that is such a distant possibility. But it’s definitely a fun daydream! Brazil…hmmm…maybe I will have a new one lol.

      • K-Dog December 9, 2018 at 1:35 pm #

        “After one month, the reality starts to dawn on me, and I become ever more cautious. My interactions with people become increasingly businesslike, and I dread any unnecessary contact with anyone. All the fake smiles and ‘have a nice day’ start to ring increasingly hollow, and the sneers become more and more menacing.

        You’ve got the start of a story there!

        The lightning smiles of the women become increasingly loathsome. Always so fast and always the same. A flash across the face and then gone. Involuntary and shallow even to them. Involuntary like a blink of an eye. They can’t know what they do. The recognition and immediate assignment as a useful tribe member should a need arise but until the need immediately forgotten and all a fast as a thunderclap.

        A drone, a worker ant and nothing more than that. A ritual tied to the body as tightly as the need to breath air.

      • Tate December 9, 2018 at 2:36 pm #

        New Zealand would be nice. But I wouldn’t go just to meet the same kind of people you meet here, only with a different accent. Actually, I’m not sure why I would go. Scenery? Nope.

        • Tate December 9, 2018 at 3:16 pm #

          I’d like to go to Iceland.

          We come from the land of the ice & snow,
          From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow,

          The hammer of the gods
          will drive our ships to new lands
          to fight the horde, sing & cry
          Valhalla, I’m coming to you

          On we sweep with threshing oar
          Our only goal the western shore

          Ah ah ah ah Ah, Ah ah ah ah Ah…

          • SoftStarLight December 9, 2018 at 3:27 pm #

            Iceland does seem like an amazing and mystical place.

        • SoftStarLight December 9, 2018 at 3:25 pm #

          Lol ok. It does look beautiful there. At least in the photos I have seen. It seems kind of exotic and distant.

  67. seawolf77 December 9, 2018 at 1:00 pm #

    Synergy is a synonym of collusion. Trumptards fooled again.

  68. FincaInTheMountains December 9, 2018 at 1:45 pm #

    Personally, I do not place much hope in testimony of Mormon Huber, appointed to his position by traitor Sessions == Finca

    Did John Huber ignore complaints from Clinton whistleblowers?


    So much for the Q “Trust the Plan”! Conspiracy theorists have been had again!

    Their essence of conspiracy theory is that if the manipulation becomes obvious, then in advance, 3000 theories are instantly invented and published, exposing these manipulations in the most distorted, delusional manner, and publishing the truth by association instantly turns up on the bookshelf under the name “Delirium of a gray gelding”.


    • Q. Be the Plan December 9, 2018 at 2:00 pm #

      …one data point does not a conclusion make.
      “Whilst” the many are focusing on the few, the few are building out strong local regenerative communities for the many, under the rapidly strengthening Constitutional Republic.
      ..and WE cannot be GASLIGHTED.

      #QArmy #QAnon


      • K-Dog December 9, 2018 at 2:07 pm #

        My comment clocked in a minute from yours so it looks like we are in a conspiracy since you mention GASLIGHTED and I say Gas-lighting is commonplace. But with only a minute difference could I compose 64 words?

        Only the shadow knows, and me and you. The rest needing to maintain their perspective, believe what suits them. However nuts that may be.

    • K-Dog December 9, 2018 at 2:01 pm #

      A conspiracy theorist may in their zeal actually be a servant of ignorance. It is no conspiracy to know that alleging a conspiracy is a way to deceive. Gas-lighting is commonplace. Alleging a impossible grand conspiracy goes a long way to hide a common little one. A needle in a haystack if not found, is useless. Post hoc ergo propter hoc makes a lot of hay.

  69. K-Dog December 9, 2018 at 2:54 pm #

    If trans women were on the Titanic they all made into lifeboats. That’s a pretty safe guess. Any Lesbians would have been staring at them for hours before bigger boats brought rescue.

  70. Tate December 9, 2018 at 4:06 pm #

    Adam Schiff has that same weird crazy look in his eyes that Jimmy Carter used to get sometimes.

    • SoftStarLight December 9, 2018 at 6:21 pm #

      Lol that doesn’t sound very good!

      • seawolf77 December 9, 2018 at 7:35 pm #

        He is a tad bug-eyed.

    • FincaInTheMountains December 10, 2018 at 7:04 am #

      Adam is full of Schiff.

  71. Janos Skorenzy December 9, 2018 at 4:21 pm #

    Took the Westbound, but not all the way. Not yet anyway. I have no doubt that all the Ka’s that do will be happy forever with Osiris in his Western Paradise. Those that make it that is. Those whose good exceeds their evil when their hearts are weighed in the feather balance.

    Saw Q on the road, the last pale gleaming reflected off the chrome of his bike. I think he’s going to make it. But I had to destroy what I loved. They were weighing me down. What a price. What grief!


    • Tate December 9, 2018 at 5:32 pm #

      Well, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Hope everything’s okay now.

    • SoftStarLight December 9, 2018 at 6:20 pm #

      Yeah, glad you are back and hope everything is ok! I always thought the Governor was an interesting character. He seemed much more realistic than Rick.

  72. janet December 9, 2018 at 11:34 pm #

    “Iceland does seem like an amazing and mystical place.” –softstarlight

    For three months of the year.

  73. FincaInTheMountains December 10, 2018 at 7:01 am #

    Upon canceling the INF treaty and presence of American missile station in Poland and Romania, the decision on the use of nuclear weapons will now be automatic through the “Skynet” Supercomputer with elements of artificial intelligence; there will be no time to think or cancel.

    If you hack the software and show the “Skynet” simulation of the attack, then the launch of nuclear weapons in real life will occur.

  74. BackRowHeckler December 10, 2018 at 1:05 pm #

    All well and good, but as the political shenanigans play out in the DC — Manhattan axis, what i want to know, what were the numbers for Black Friday and Cyber Monday? Were they up or were they down? C’mon CFNers, let’s get out priorities straight here.

    On the local news here its endless stories of people ‘Giving Back’, ‘in the spirit of the holidays’, which in this case invariably means people from the suburbs ponying up the swag and delivering it to the ghetto, sometimes in person, like when they load up a schoolbus of lily white elementary school kids bearing gifts and drive them down straight into the heart of the ‘hood. Inevitably the news cameras are there waiting, interviewing the little ones, who look a little shell shocked but say the right things. The teachers and parents look a little nervous too, and have that supressed frantic look on their faces that says “lets get out of here asap”.

    they’re schooling them young now. Never too early to rub these kids noses in their ‘white privilege’.



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