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Media hysteria around the Mueller Report has nearly eclipsed news of historic flooding in the midwest that has already caused $3 billion in damage to farms, homes, livestock, and infrastructure. With spring rainfall already at 200 percent of normal levels, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) issued a statement in late March saying, “This is shaping up to be a potentially unprecedented flood season, with more than 200 million people at risk for flooding in their communities.”

More to the point, two major western dams show disturbing signs of potential failure that may bring on unprecedented disasters. The Oroville Dam on the Feather River north of Sacramento — the highest earthen dam in the US — nearly blew out in February 2017 when record rains damaged the main spillway, threatening to send a 30-foot wall of water downstream towards California’s capital and towns along the way. When that spillway was closed to assess the damage, which was significant, the secondary emergency spillway was opened for the first time since the dam was built in 1968. It too started disintegrating and before long Lake Oroville began flowing over the top of the dam itself. The state had to order evacuation of 188,000 people in three counties. Frantic efforts to drop sandbags from helicopters stabilized the damage and, luckily, the rain stopped.

Subsequent lawsuits against the state’s Department of Water Resources revealed shoddy maintenance, theft of equipment, and poor record keeping. Now, two years later, new cracks have appeared in the repaired Oroville Dam main spillway. The Sierra Nevada snowpack stands at 153 percent above average, and the National Weather Service predicts that weak El Nino conditions with above-average Pacific Ocean temperatures are likely to produce above-average rainfall this spring along with the snowpack melt.

The Fort Peck Dam on the upper Missouri River in Montana is likewise troubling experts watching a record snowpack in the Rocky Mountains. It too is an earthen dam — the world’s largest by volume — filled with hydraulic slurry. Because it is located on the flat high plains, the dam is extremely long, running 21,000 feet — about four miles — from end to end. Behind it is a reservoir that is the fifth-largest man-made lake in the nation.

Concern is rising because the coming snow melt coincides with seismic activity around the Yellowstone Caldera, one of the world’s super-volcanos. The slurry construction of the dam inclines it to liquification when the ground shakes. Failure of the Fort Peck dam would send the equivalent of a whole year’s flow of the Missouri River downstream in one release that could potentially wash away the other five downstream dams in the Missouri River Mainstem Reservoir System, along with every bridge from Montana to St. Louis, an unimaginable amount of farm and town infrastructure, and several nuclear power installations. It would be the greatest national disaster in US history. Just sayin’.

A shy, science-nerd correspondent writes: “Epidemiologists speculate that a flooding event in Central Asia steppes triggered the 1347 Eurasian plague outbreak.  Rumors of a mass human die-off in India reached Europe in the mid-1340’s.  The Mongols besieging the coastal city of Trebizond on the shore of the Black Sea catapulted plague infested corpses over the city walls and Italian merchant ships fleeing Trebizond carried the infestation to Genoa which foolishly permitted the dying crew to land…. Rodents hosting plague spreading fleas typically inhabit arid grassland regions such as the Great Plains of America and the semi deserts of California and New Mexico. The current flooding of the American Mid-West and the mass dumping of flood tainted wheat, corn and soybeans will likely spark a rodent population explosion in the region, which in the context of rat-swarming homeless encampments may yield a 1347 repeat event in North America during the 2020s. What happened before can happen again.”

The homeless camps around Los Angeles have turned up cases of other medieval-type diseases typical of human settlements before public sanitation became a standard feature of civilized life: Many are spread through feces (as well as drug use): Hepatitis A, Typhus, shigellosis (or trench fever, spread through body lice), and tuberculosis. Gawd knows what is coming across the border into America’s proudly leading “sanctuary state.” Wait for it. Just sayin’.

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397 Responses to “Biblical Anxieties”

  1. 100th Avatar April 1, 2019 at 9:49 am #

    Feeding billions of people isn’t an issue.
    Until it is.

    Until you lose breadbaskets

    • OccamsBeard April 1, 2019 at 12:30 pm #

      Excellent point, just sayin’!


    • malthuss April 1, 2019 at 1:49 pm #

      Who has this job of feeding BILLIONS?
      Uncle Sam? Foreign Aid? The UN?

      • 100th Avatar April 1, 2019 at 2:21 pm #

        Businesses that make $€£

    • gonetohell April 2, 2019 at 10:44 am #

      Note to JHK; when you have a president of medieval intellect it may lead to a resurgence of medieval type social diseases.

      • 100th Avatar April 2, 2019 at 4:43 pm #

        Medieval intellect?
        That’s nonsense.
        Literally. It doesn’t make sense.
        A rather stupid combination of words that Seadolt would invent.
        What is medieval intellect?
        Chaucer? Dante? Aquinas?

        There were plenty of great minds in the medieval era.
        Many great advances attributed to them.
        Much intellect.

  2. Farmer Joe April 1, 2019 at 9:51 am #

    No joke about the weather, Jim. Here at my ranch I experienced a month long freezing wind storm in February and early March. It killed several of my animals and financially set me back by six months, but it sounds like I’m the lucky one. According to federal stats Washington state lost 1700 head of cattle in that storm. People lost their whole herd.

    Funny you bring up homeless camps spreading medieval diseases. My girlfriend and I were just speculating about that. Let’s just say I won’t be surprised if the bubonic plague makes a come back

    • Farmer Joe April 1, 2019 at 9:54 am #

      And ps rats are no joke either. Before I had a cat around they caused tonnes of damage to wiring and insulation and stole food. I actually just had to treat a pig who gave me a good scare. She got sick, most likely salmonellosis caused by rat feces.

    • Paulo April 1, 2019 at 10:19 am #

      Just in time to be welcomed by those Freedom Loving Anti-Vaxers. What do people on this blog say about the US? Third World country with nukes? 1, Got the ludicrous dictator (check). 2, Got the crumbling infrastructure (check). 3, Got the dysfunctional opposition (check) 4, Got the Govt propaganda channel (check). 5, Got the declining middle class (check). 6, Got the attacks on the Press (check). Come on,the list is endless. Intelligent Design? Neverending wars? Economic malfeasance? Corruption at all levels, all parties?

      Now Biblical pestilence? You had to bring the Bible into this? Jeesh.

      Do you think ‘they’ can close both borders this week, southern and northern? (Please say yes).

      • BackRowHeckler April 1, 2019 at 10:39 am #

        I know an ‘anti Vaxxer’. She is ignorant, but she thinks she is sophisticated. She has no sense of history, and has no idea what life and death were like before medical innovations such as penicillin and the polio vaccine.


        • SpeedyBB April 1, 2019 at 12:28 pm #

          Few things infuriate me BRH, but one of them is seeing a polio-crippled child here in Indonesia. My God, during the Suharto era the message was carried on all electronic media and in the press and the imam blared it out from the mosque and the community health services were reminding mothers over and over to get their child immunized against polio.

          ‘I forgot’ the mother mumbles.

          Not good enough, lady, not at all.

          Those who were around in the 1950s can remember the mass panic: swimming pools closed, all kinds of theories in the air, people in iron lungs.

          We won’t even get into tetanus, smallpox or rabies.

          This is when my inner SS Colonel rears up and attempts to impose his will. It’s not going to be just nuts like me, either: when the food / health / environment / security situation gets real grim just watch how promptly folks will embrace a totalitarian regime.

          • DrTomSchmidt April 1, 2019 at 4:34 pm #

            What about chicken pox? Rotavirus? HPV? Are those necessary and mandatory, in your opinion?

            Smallpox was a great vaccination. Mumps, rubella, tetanus, sure. Polio, undoubtedly.

            Some of the anti-vaccination ardor comes from politically correct vaccinating. hep-B, for example, is epidemic in Hispanic immigrants, they should all receive the vaccine. But we have lost the ability to make decisions like that, exposing white and black children because we are unwilling to discriminate right from wrong, or who needs something from who doesn’t.

        • malthuss April 1, 2019 at 1:50 pm #

          i FOUND THIS—

          Mark Sibley, M.D. 2 weeks ago (edited)
          I am an M.D…..My wife was an R.N…..My 2 brothers were M.D.’s….My mother and sister were both R.N.’s….We were all taught to give vaccines and take all of our vaccines…Our pediatrician bullied us into vaccinating our baby….My precocious, active, creative, talkitive, loving 2 year-old son was injured by his 4 vaccines starting that night…I was an eye-witness to that as his parent..

          My baby brother ( the M.D. ) died from paralysis (Guillain-Barre) after his flu shot …The government agreed and paid the family because they agreed that the flu vaccine killed him…and Folks, my mother was an R.N. who was the Head Nurse and ran the largest ER in our medical center…They had her take 8-9 vaccines to ”catch-up” with the ”updated” CDC schedule to keep her job…She got severe ”brain fog” withing days, then lost her ability to dial her phone or push the elevator buttons, or start her car ..

          .She went into diapers and then hospitalized and died a terrible, tragic death drooling and unable to walk, talk, eat or recognized any of her family…None of the specialists and consults could tell her or us what ”just happened” but the told us it was ”NOT” from those vaccines..

          ..It was called the ”worst case of aggressive dementia of unknown cause the doctors had ever seen”….Folks what killed our mother just weeks after her vaccines was all from her fatal doses of neurotoxic aluminum and mercury from those vaccines..She left behind her husband, 5 children, 4 grandchildren, and now 7 great grandchildren.. I started a FB site called Vaccine Support Group in their name..Will they shut this site down next…..Maybe today

          • Majella April 1, 2019 at 6:16 pm #

            Is this the ophthalmologist from Florida?

      • 100th Avatar April 1, 2019 at 10:44 am #

        The press!?

        That’s funny.

        In a nostalgic remembrance way.

        • Farmer Joe April 1, 2019 at 10:58 am #

          Haha yeah. Remember before how it wasn’t all propaganda?

      • BC_EE April 1, 2019 at 11:23 am #

        Yes, please close the northern border too! We don’t want 200 million Americans fleeing floods and pestilence into Canada.

        I’m joking of course. Presently there is a significant amount of economic trade crossing the US-Canada border daily. And more realistically, there is too much border to try and shut it off.

        • Exscotticus April 1, 2019 at 12:14 pm #

          >>> We don’t want 200 million Americans fleeing floods and pestilence into Canada.

          We do—if it’s all those liberal Americans who promised they were going to immigrate to Canada if Trump won but never did. If only liberals kept their promises.

          Anyway Canada’s borders are already overwhelmed, and it ain’t Americans…

      • draupnir April 1, 2019 at 11:35 am #

        They have a vaccination for plague, but they aren’t particularly confident in it. Pneumonic plague is making an appearance in Congo and Uganda at this very moment, along with another outbreak of Ebola. Talk about virulence, pneumonic plague has a mortality rate of 99.9%. Only rabies is more deadly. Once plague goes airborne it spreads like measles. It’s treatable with antibiotics, (streptomycin, gentamycin, doxycycline or ciprofloxicin are best), but the window of opportunity for such treatment is very small. Occasionally, we lose a veterinarian or a camper who slept too close to a prairie dog burrow to plague. Prophylactic antibiotics can act as a preventative, but disasters, such as those referenced by Mr. Kunstler would probably crash our medical infrastructure. In an outbreak of plague, how quickly could they ramp up production of the vaccine? Do we have the antibiotics to cover the population for prophylaxis. I don’t believe we do. I believe you can buy veterinary antibiotics at Fleet Farm without a prescription. They would come in handy in your first aid kit in any case.

      • Sean Coleman April 2, 2019 at 11:32 am #

        Paulo “those Freedom Loving Anti-Vaxxers”

        From my very limited knowledge (I suspect your own knowledge is even less) there are potentially severe risks involved in vaccinations but they are played down for understandable reasons. There was a recent case in the paper here (Ireland) where a woman claimed she had not had a proper night’s sleep since a flu jab years ago. Manufacturers have often withdrawn vaccines following health concerns. Peter Hitchens reported getting an official British government expert in immunology to admit that vaccinations have dangerous consequences for a small proportion of those who are given them, but that it took a great deal of time and patience to wheedle this admission out of her (again for understandable reasons).

        What interests me, though, is the mass psychology angle. Dr Andrew Wakefield was demonized for a study he led some years ago about the possible connection between the MMR vaccine (measles, german measles and mumps) and bowel disorders (with often crippling developmental and behavioural consequences) in children. I have sometimes seen him described on the internet as one of the worst hoaxers or charlatans of all time.

        Participating in the study was Prof. John Walker-Smith, who was the world’s leading expert in his field, and (I think) ten others. All but three recanted and disowned the infamous article printed in The Lancet and two were struck off by the General Medical Council for serious professional misconduct: Wakefield and Prof WS. The latter appealed, however, and won. It was not widely reported but the Guardian carried the story: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/mar/07/mmr-row-doctor-appeal

        The judge ruled that the GMC had been guilty of “inadequate and superficial reasoning and, in a number of instances, a wrong conclusion”. I think the GMC’s case against the two doctors was the biggest and longest, by a long way, that it had ever conducted and yet it messed it up. They had also not taken WS’s expert evidence sufficiently into account. In layman’s terms I think it could be argued that they rigged the game against WS. (I believe Wakefield’s case would be 90% similar to WS’s so it would seem that he was fitted up too, although it would be hard in view of the hysterical media climate to see him either appealing or winning such an appeal.)

        The newspaper reported the Judge as saying:

        “It had to decide what Professor Walker-Smith thought he was doing: if he believed he was undertaking research in the guise of clinical investigation and treatment, he deserved the finding that he had been guilty of serious professional misconduct and the sanction of erasure.

        “If not, he did not, unless, perhaps, his actions fell outside the spectrum of that which would have been considered reasonable medical practice by an academic clinician.

        “Its failure to address and decide that question is an error which goes to the root of its determination. The panel’s decision cannot stand. I therefore quash it.”

        It seems obvious that the two doctors had the best interest of the children in mind when they carried out their treatment and research (the combination is, I think, called a ‘case study’ or something like that) and it would appear that the charge that they had acted unethically and had not gone through the ethical formalities was just a way to try to discredit them. When you think about it the very idea that they did not have their patients’ interests at heart is difficult to believe.

        • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2019 at 12:45 pm #

          Do you think they were always risky or has something been put in them in the last few decades that makes them so? Some have pointed out the mercury angle, some other junk. Or was it always so?

    • Q. Shtik April 1, 2019 at 10:48 am #

      Here at my ranch – Farmer Joe


      How about giving us readers some idea of where that ranch is located. We don’t need the number, street and town but the state and general region would be helpful.

      This advice applies to any commenter talking about happenings where they live.

      • Farmer Joe April 1, 2019 at 10:58 am #

        I’m an hour’s drive from Seattle, USA.

        • montsegur April 1, 2019 at 2:24 pm #

          A ranch in WA about an hour from Seattle sounds like it is over in the direction of Yakima. I never imagined WA getting harsh winters; are you up there in terms of elevation?


          • Farmer Joe April 1, 2019 at 3:08 pm #

            Enumclaw, just on the other side of the mountains from Yak. I’m at about 500 feet. Enumclaw just happens to be in a windy microclimate.

  3. earltwitty April 1, 2019 at 9:52 am #

    And yet Publicans are jubilant over this article about glaciers growing back in Greenland although they just read the headline and the complete article actually says something different.

  4. DrTomSchmidt April 1, 2019 at 9:52 am #

    Oh, boy. Time to order a year worth of MREs.

    The book Justinian’s Flea talks about the unique environmental conditions that first led Yersinia Pestis to come out of central Africa and into the Byzantine empire. Climate actually cooled enough for what Yosemite Sam would call flea-bearin’ varmints to come up the Nile Valley to Egypt and a starring role in the collapse of civilizations.

    • Neon Vincent April 1, 2019 at 10:11 am #

      I used the cover art for “Justinian’s Flea” to illustrate Pandemics and collapse. That was a story I had not known about before I researched it. It’s not like the folklore around Ring Around The Rosie, which is better known, even if the nursery rhyme may not actually be inspired by later outbreaks of the bubonic plague in England.

    • BackRowHeckler April 1, 2019 at 10:20 am #

      And in the Congo Ebola has returned, with a vengeance.

      A few do gooder groups from Europe have travelled down into the Heart of Darkness to try to stem the tide but they have been attacked and in one case wiped out by ungrateful tribesmen armed with Kalashnikovs.


      • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 5:15 am #

        “A few do gooder groups from Europe have travelled down into the Heart of Darkness to try to stem the tide but they have been attacked and in one case wiped out by ungrateful tribesmen armed with Kalashnikovs.”

        There’s something almost Christ-like in that story, brh, wouldn’t you say? What would Jesus do?

    • montsegur April 1, 2019 at 2:28 pm #

      DrTom, your comment reminded me of the book The Hot Zone. There was something in that book about billions of people essentially being a huge mass of meat that something small might take a shine to one of these days.


      • DrTomSchmidt April 1, 2019 at 4:39 pm #

        Ah, yes. Wasn’t that also a movie? Or was Outbreak based on something else? It’s dreadful to contemplate.

  5. neon sky April 1, 2019 at 9:55 am #

    You didn’t mention ticks. They’re bad, as I can attest to. They gave me the mammal flesh allergy in 1995, now known as Alpha-gal. Add to that the wicked case of Lyme disease I contracted last August, which I still suffer from. I’m like an experiment in emerging diseases. We all are. You just haven’t been infected yet.

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    • Q. Shtik April 1, 2019 at 11:20 am #

      Add to that the wicked case of Lyme disease – neon


      About 3 years ago I had a case of what appeared to be Lyme Disease. The red spot that appeared on my trunk was not the classic bullseye type but all the symptoms pointed to Lyme. Most disturbing to me was my brains were scrambled. I just couldn’t think straight.

    • So naturally Trump and the Republicans have slashed scientific research. Your Lyme disease is just a reflection of your failure to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and of course, reckless and irresponsible behavior.

      Instead we’re pumping billions into third world countries to keep em from collapsing into self reliance….

      • Exscotticus April 1, 2019 at 12:32 pm #

        >>> So naturally Trump and the Republicans have slashed scientific research.

        Liberals encourage mass migrations of unvaccinated people, demand open borders, claim there’s no crisis, but will jump at the chance to blame Trump for anything and everything that happens as a result.

        I’m glad Trump slashed the budget. It will force these institutions to prioritize what’s important. A million climate scientists will now have to work for a living…

        • 100th Avatar April 1, 2019 at 4:50 pm #

          They do what they’re programmed to do.
          By their elected superiors and their media minders.
          They don’t think, question, or research.
          Only parrot.

          “Trump, Trump, Trump”

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 5:21 am #

            “Nellie the Elephant packed her trunk
            And said goodbye to the circus
            Off she went with a trumpety-trump
            Trump, trump, trump.”


            Didn’t realise until now she’d absconded with a real-estate mogul 🙂 .

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 5:22 am #

            And a trumpety one at that!

    • My Point of View April 1, 2019 at 12:48 pm #

      Neon, when you say ‘ticks’ it reminded me of a new speciesfound in NJ and spreading fast, a prolific breeder which can suck so much blood that it can kill livestock. Story here:
      Just another reason to stay here in AZ and not move back east. I’ve family near Dulles airport and he’s had Lyme Disease THREE times now.

      Our federal government once led the way in making this a better and safer nation. I remember the mid 1950s and fear of polio but by 1960 they lined us up in middle school and gave every one of us the polio vaccine on a sugar cube. That was the end of polio until the anti-vax morons got rolling on “social” media which truthfully is Anti-Social Media.

      Our federal government is quickly shoveling trillions of freshly printed dollars UP the wealth chain to a class of billionaires who are as callous as any perp of the Final Solution. This time they’ve found a way to have mass populations do themselves in by hating the very government that once had the ability to save them. They should make an episode of the Twilight Zone to point out the self-destructive nature of GOP voters. Of course when the shit hits the fan they will be the first ones in line screaming about their ‘rights’ and demanding vaccines and help, and of course before helping anyone with more melanin than they have.

      • Tate April 1, 2019 at 3:01 pm #

        You people argue with an endearing naivete. You & Bill Gates, who’s going to eliminate malaria in sub-Saharan Africa. What’s that going to accomplish if he succeeds? It just builds up the population pressure from the third world mounting to invade the developed nations which will inevitably collapse them down to shithole standards.

        And what’s even more risible, you identify opposition to the globalists’ schemes with GOP voters as if partisan politics is going to solve anything. Break the mirror dumbass, for a better point of view.

      • Farmer Joe April 1, 2019 at 3:12 pm #

        Here in Washington state it’s backwards tax policies and excessive regulations against small business forcing money up the food chain. We only have democrats to thank for that.

      • draupnir April 1, 2019 at 3:14 pm #

        That’s an awful lot of hateful derogatory generalization for one post. It kind of reminds me of the sort of screes written about those with more melanin in their skin than was considered pleasing not so very long ago. I think it highly probable you are not one of the melanin-disadvantaged, but are rather projecting your self-hatred and misguided guilt onto Republicans. The best treatment for this condition is to turn off CNN and MSNBC. Watch the Science Channel or something else worthwhile. You sound like you are old enough to remember when the opposing party was considered the loyal opposition and were people who wanted what was best for the country, just like you.

  6. Walter B April 1, 2019 at 9:55 am #

    Biblical, eh Jim? Now you’re talkin’.

    “And I looked and behold a pale horse and his name that sat on him was death, and hell followed with him, and power was given onto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.”

    The unsustainability of the systems of mankind, as you so often write of, shall soon be made clear. If we are fortunate, smaller and local will follow, but there must be a great price paid if this unfolds.

    • montsegur April 1, 2019 at 2:19 pm #

      The unsustainability of the systems of mankind

      Hello Walter,

      I think a lot of people don’t realize that most of our ‘systems’ are engineered for just a bit of extra stress and not much more. Anything that is of the “100 year record” sort causes failure across many technologies. Something Biblical in scale would be devastating.


  7. Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter April 1, 2019 at 9:59 am #

    Maybe a good disaster is what this country needs to get off the various delusions which occupy our time. If one is ass-deep in muddy water, with snakes, I suspect that one will not be too worried about burdening new born children with a specific gender. Nor will slavery back 200 years ago be on one’s mind, or the correct pronoun, or whether or not the Five 0 just popped a few caps off in a black carjacker. I suspect that if the welfare classes start breaking into gated communities to steal food, TVs, and jewelry, the whole “guns are sooo bad” movement will come to an abrupt end.

    I hope any such disaster will confine itself to the Blue States, as they need waking up, as opposed to being “woke.”

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    • DrTomSchmidt April 1, 2019 at 10:06 am #

      What’s the relative crime rates between blue and red states, SFGR? There’s already a low-level war going on. My guess is the collapse brings it also to those blue states not already experiencing it if they lack a Chicago in them.

      We had a week’s blackout here in 2012 after Sandy. Heartening was the level of cooperation amongst people (and the police RV placed at the entrance to th neighborhood by the city.) in short, the men came forward to lead, and the women assumed traditional roles. Then the emergency ended, and we all went back to how we were before.

      In the Long Emergency, by contrast, I suspect your scenario will be every day.

      • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter April 1, 2019 at 10:14 am #

        I am not sure there is any way to accurately determine crime between Red and Blue states. The South is pretty much the Black Belt of the country, with a high percentage of the population being black. This tends to skew statistics. That is why the Dems say the Blue States are carrying the Red States, tax-wise. They conveniently forget to mention the high percentage of blacks, with their nearly 80% rate of illegitimate births. Here is a map, plus:


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        • RocketDoc April 1, 2019 at 4:05 pm #

          As an Alabama native, I applaud the efforts of the blue states to contribute to our well being. Hale County, just south of us, has a disability rate of 25%. Since the average percent of the population disabled is below 5% perhaps 20% of us are “criminals” (defined as unentitled freeloaders) We Alabamians receive some 50% more federal tax dollars than we contribute. The black population in Alabama is twice the US average–28% here and 13% nationwide. Since the Latino population is 17% nationwide, blacks are now a super-minority.BTW what do you consider a “high” percentage?
          But the 18,000 people in Hale county are collecting chump change compared to the DOD contractors here in Rocket City. The cotton fields of yore are growing brick façade mini-mansions like topsy. We are getting your money’s worth–and appreciate it like any genteel Southerner would….

          • DrTomSchmidt April 1, 2019 at 4:44 pm #

            Could we defend the USA on a defense budget of 250Bln, and spend the rest on deficit reduction?

            It’s coming.

          • Majella April 1, 2019 at 6:38 pm #

            Dr Tom

            “$250 billion” is still shedloads more than is needed. however, the MIC is raking in the moolah from the ‘defense’ budget and because it spreads the work across so many states, the elected representatives have to continue to support the obscene amount of tax-dollar-spending lest they get ‘primaried’ if the unemployment rate rises too much and too obviously.

      • Farmer Joe April 1, 2019 at 11:02 am #

        I can’t speak to crime, but I did do a bit of research in to homelessness. It turns out that the cities that currently have the worst problems with homelessness are all hard left. Coincidence?

        • DrTomSchmidt April 1, 2019 at 4:43 pm #

          No. Having outlawed discrimination by race but continuing to allow it by income, we’ve created legal ways to remove poor blacks from cities. The fact is that it makes the city unaffordable for most people, of course.

          • Farmer Joe April 1, 2019 at 9:11 pm #

            Which is probably supported by the fact that Seattle’s homeless are majority black.

          • K-Dog April 1, 2019 at 10:46 pm #

            I’m there every day, no they are not.

          • Farmer Joe April 2, 2019 at 8:58 am #

            Not according to the people counting, k dog.


            Btw, by a majority black, it’s still less than half (40%)

          • Farmer Joe April 2, 2019 at 9:01 am #

            And before you say that it’s Wikipedia and can’t be trusted, I checked their source, it’s the official government report. I didn’t link to that because it’s a pdf. I don’t want to be accused of attempting to spread a virus.

          • Farmer Joe April 2, 2019 at 9:17 am #

            You’re right, k, it’s not true that they are all black. I hope it didn’t come off sounding like that’s what I mean. But many are. And to be fair, the last time I went to Seattle, about six months ago, it was a white guy who tried to sell me oxy on the roadside, not a black guy.

          • K-Dog April 2, 2019 at 11:15 am #

            If you can score any Oxy let me know. I known chronic pain patients who can’t get it. They actually need it.

            >b>Oh – and it did come off sounding that way. Enumscratch is known to be ‘white’. Black people are not comfortable there. Too many MAGA hat wearing hicks with gun racks for them to feel OK.

            In the seventies the joke of the local resident being inseparable from his ball cap, his pickup, and his gun rack was descriptive of Kent, a burb which is not so far from Seattle. Then Auburn which is a bit further out. Then out to Enumclaw about twenty years ago where it remains because anybody commuting from Enumclaw to Seattle has screws loose.

    • montsegur April 1, 2019 at 2:21 pm #

      Maybe a good disaster is what this country needs to get off the various delusions which occupy our time.

      Nothing like an emergency to bring priorities into focus.


      • K-Dog April 2, 2019 at 11:17 am #

        Good disaster is like tall midget.

  8. BackRowHeckler April 1, 2019 at 10:00 am #

    Up till now the worst flooding in our history was in the lower Mississippi Valley in May, 1927. That was about the time of the Lindberg flight so it didn’t get the attention it warranted.

    Mongols hurling plague infested bodies over city walls, what a sight that must have been.


  9. 100th Avatar April 1, 2019 at 10:00 am #

    Time to buy stock in BayerMonsanto.
    I’m rather certain they have developed wheat and corn and soy that can grow in rice marshes.

    The future marshes of the deluged Midwest.

    • Farmer Joe April 1, 2019 at 10:06 am #

      Our we’ll plant the Midwest with rice.

      • 100th Avatar April 1, 2019 at 10:19 am #

        That’s the better strategy.
        Besides, with the Round-Up lawsuits going full bore and unabated, Monsanto’s days may be numbered.

        It’s hard to believe that at one time humanity believed they could routinely and leisurely inhale smoke without consequence and that they could kill every living thing in their soil and garden and grass farms (lawns) too.

        But hey, it made money

        • TiredOfTheTreadmill April 1, 2019 at 11:12 am #

          “But hey, it made money.”

          You mean there’s something more important than making money? In this culture?

      • K-Dog April 2, 2019 at 11:18 am #

        Perhaps some immigrants who know how to do it and who work can kick-start the effort.

  10. shotho April 1, 2019 at 10:08 am #

    Well, I’m fine with financial apocalypse, seems reasonable and inevitable in present circumstances and will cause significant social and political upheaval. That’ a lot to worry about, all I can handle along with personal problems. Ecological, natural disasters will happen along with other unexpected events. I think I’ll refrain from adding them to my list of concerns.
    A little disappointed with Mr. K for going outside his usual list of horrors. It’s as if he’s determined to mess up every Monday with a tale of woe. Well, I don’t have to read, do I?

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    • JohnAZ April 1, 2019 at 10:45 am #

      JHK is one of the Prophets of Doom. He reports on what he sees happening and extrapolating it using history.

      Something you do not see in most of the MSM reporting.

      Read TLE and TOO Much Magic and follow what has actually happened. His forecasts are scarily accurate. Remember that Peak Oil in TLE was set to hit fully by 2100, not next year.


      Talking today about how AGW is causing flooding and resultant disease spreading, two years ago it was drought and wildfires and the San Joaquin not having enough water. Look south for the real determiner of the weather swings, look at the cycles of El Niño and La Niña. And realize we have no control of our weather and we better learn to adapt to the changes we are seeing.

      If there are changes.

  11. Sam Stone April 1, 2019 at 10:29 am #

    Spring flooding? No. Say it isn’t so. Shirley you jest. (don’t call me Shirley) Anyone notice how in our new “woke, ” connected, online all time age everything is exponentially larger and thousands of times more serious than it ever was in the past? Our forebearers must have lived in continual paradise without a care in the world.

    • 100th Avatar April 1, 2019 at 10:49 am #

      Indeed without a care in the world.
      Only a care for their small part in it.

      It’s not more serious it’s just more problems from more places told to us from more sources.

      Cogelo and take it easy

      • Sam Stone April 1, 2019 at 12:31 pm #

        “Cogelo and take it easy”

        Isn’t that redundant? Just asking.

        “It’s not more serious it’s just more problems from more places told to us from more sources.”

        I agree. I think that all this info coming at us so fast and furious is more than our brains can handle. Well at least my brain. I am starting to pine for less info received at a slower pace. There was a time, not so long ago, when newspapers, telegraph, and intercontinental trains were considered fast pace and the ruination of society. So yeah life goes on.

        Cogelo my friend.

    • Q. Shtik April 1, 2019 at 11:27 am #

      Our forebearers must have lived – Sam Stone


      For your consideration:


      • Sam Stone April 1, 2019 at 12:08 pm #

        In my world, the overwhelming majority of those I speak with, know and understand what the word forebearer means.

        For your consideration: those that don’t understand what is meant by forebearers are by and large dumber than a box of rocks. But thx for the link.

        • 100th Avatar April 1, 2019 at 12:55 pm #

          Q stick does not yet understand that language does not exist. Only concepts.
          Agreid apon consepts

          • Sam Stone April 1, 2019 at 4:18 pm #

            LOL. Took me a minute.

          • Q. Shtik April 1, 2019 at 5:52 pm #

            Q stick does not yet understand – Avatar


            It’s Shtik, not stick. Maybe you don’t understand the nuance.

          • 100th Avatar April 1, 2019 at 7:01 pm #


          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 5:26 am #

            Shtiks and shtones, Avatar, shtiks and shtones…

  12. RB April 1, 2019 at 10:32 am #

    But, but America is exceptional. There ain’t nothing we can’t fix. Heck, no Fukishima or Chernobyl here. Nosiree bob. Just like them damn dams, the nuc plants are all good to go you betcha. No problem with those pools covering the “spent” fuel. One day we’ll figure out how to store the stuff.

    In my decades of life, I have observed that people with their heads planted up their ass tend to remain in that state. If you live in a problem area, I suggest you pack up and move right away. We are fragile regardless of the bullshit spread across the national landscape.

    • JohnAZ April 1, 2019 at 10:53 am #

      Remember that part of the flooding is caused by us damming and creating concrete chutes for the rivers, not allowing them to spread out over their flood plains. Not to mention building right next to rivers in their folldplains. Do not blame Mother Nature here, look at the Man in the Mirror.

      • TiredOfTheTreadmill April 1, 2019 at 11:40 am #

        The disconect from nature in this country is amazing. Hence, one reason I lean toward our collaose being slow at first, then blazing out of control like a raging wildfire. Slow until enough things break that cause the coffee-obsessed, hyper-PC crowd on the left and the Gawd gave us dominion over the Earth crowd on the right a hard smack upside the head. Nature always wins. It’s just a matter of the time frame.

        • Sam Stone April 1, 2019 at 12:45 pm #

          Good observations by both you and JohnAZ. Historically Spring flooding has brought either prosperity or tragedy depending on the amount of runoff and the timing. Placing your crop fields in a flood plain can be a good thing but a city not so much.

        • messianicdruid April 1, 2019 at 1:20 pm #

          “He will destroy those who destroy the earth.”

          Consider Duet. 28:16 to the end of the chapter. I have heard verse 67 come right out of people’s mouths. More “scarily accurate” than even JHK.

  13. Ol' Scratch April 1, 2019 at 10:37 am #

    Yes indeedy! Just returned from a week long sojourn to eastern NE/western IA, and I can personally attest that I’ve never seen the whole state so wet. The Platte river, normally a collection of sand bars interspersed with a few rivulets of muddy water, ran high and mighty all the way across the state and the sound of migrating birds frolicking in the water logged fields next to it were like the days of long gone by. My mom’s house in Council Bluffs sits right next to a creek that feeds the Missouri, and it looked as if a tsunami had swept through the week before; the huge water flow of course compounded by the fact that it swept whole trees and other detritus along with it. Truly a sight to behold. They’re beginning to dry out a little now, but if any one of those upstream dams break, their situation will get many times worse overnight.

    • newworld April 1, 2019 at 10:58 am #

      Counciltucky as Omahans call it.

      • Ol' Scratch April 1, 2019 at 11:05 am #

        Yes, it’s degenerated into concentric rings of economic boom/bust devastation.

    • Sam Stone April 1, 2019 at 4:48 pm #

      I read that the Pioneers called The Platte “too muddy to drink and too wet to plow.”

      • Ol' Scratch April 2, 2019 at 11:46 am #

        Sounds about right for most years. It’s running at the top of its banks right now. Never seen it nearly so high before.

  14. Beryl of Oyl April 1, 2019 at 10:44 am #

    The social strife started well before Donald Trump ever rode down the escalator.
    It began during Barack Obama’s second term, when he didn’t have to worry about reelection.

    I notice California’s government can’t even manage the most basic functions, like water.
    Yet the citizens keep electing the same old failures.

    • Farmer Joe April 1, 2019 at 11:09 am #

      My mom used to say, “A lesson is repeated until learned.”

      Incidentally, she only votes Democrat. Facts and common sense don’t matter to her. Maybe she was repeating that to me for her to learn.

      • Sam Stone April 1, 2019 at 1:07 pm #

        LOL. Do as I say not as I do. I hear ya Brother. I have family members who piss and moan about high taxation, illegal immigration, on and on… Then like programmed robots (which they are) vote Democrat every single time. The obvious correlation escapes them. Boggles the brain.

        • Farmer Joe April 1, 2019 at 3:38 pm #

          It’s sad. She’s an intelligent woman with a master’s degree and her own family therapy practice. She’s no dummy. I would describe her support of the dems as a religious faith, because she can never back any thing she says with facts. Just the typical TDS and all republicans are evil, even if they want to support a law protecting puppy dogs and kittens. I swear she would vote for Hitler if he ran as a democrat.

          • Sam Stone April 1, 2019 at 5:12 pm #

            You observation of support for the Dems being akin to religious faith is spot on. I have said for years that most Dems remind me of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

            For all of my voting life I have voted for the person not the party. Which has resulted in my voting for Libertarians most of the time. I can count using one hand, how many times I’ve voted Republican for the Presidency and can say I have never once voted for a Democrat, for any office.

            While I am no great Trump fan I do not suffer from TDS and unless someone better comes along he will get my vote once again. I just wish he would keep his mouth shut, stay off the internet, and just play golf or diddle his wife.

          • Farmer Joe April 1, 2019 at 9:16 pm #

            Sam it sounds like your politics and mine are more or less the same.

            I’d be interested to hear why the dems remind you of JWs

    • Sam Stone April 1, 2019 at 11:41 am #

      “Yet the citizens keep electing the same old failures.”

      If that fact wasn’t so mind numbingly pathetic and bordering on criminally insane it would be downright hilarious to watch these morons get their commuppance. But the shitty thing is that all this craziness happening on both coasts is moving inland at an unstoppable pace.

      We here in Colorado know this all too well. I don’t recognize this state any longer. We need to change the state name from Colorado to Denver. Every part of the state feels like Denver now except for, thankfully, the traffic. Although traffic isn’t as bad as Denver, everyone is feeling the population explosion and rural Colorado is getting harder and harder to find in the Eastern part of the state. Particularly along the front range. The speed with which this state has changed, for the worse, is truly hard to believe.

      Rereading this post I see have really come down on Denver. Very sad as not that long ago Denver was, IMO, a really great city. Denver along with the rest Colorado’s problems can be boiled down to one fact. A large influx of left leaning, out of state progressives. The left, mainly so called progressives, ruin everything they touch. Progressives ARE the enemy of the entire planet.

      • JohnAZ April 1, 2019 at 1:21 pm #


        As an ex-Coloradan, I watched the decline for forty years. It is amazing how the urbanization of a desert can destroy quality of life. I currently live in Phoenix which is about twenty years behind Denver. Same stuff. At least there is no violent weather here.

        Remember Don’t Californicate Colorado bumper stickers in the 70’s. Well, it happened.

        I remember Colorado of the sixties as a wonderful place to live, remnant of the Old West. Now it looks like an ad for JHK’s anti-suburb campaign.

        • Sam Stone April 1, 2019 at 3:36 pm #

          That “Old West” feel used to be a defining trait of the state. It is, for the most part, non-existent now. A popular bumper sticker I see a lot now a days is “Nobody cares your from Cali, Bro.”

      • Tate April 1, 2019 at 3:21 pm #

        It’s become a blue state, voting-wise. Look who we just elected governor. If they pass this Red Flag law, I hope the counties will refuse to comply & declare themselves sanctuaries. It’s wait-&-see at this point.

        • Sam Stone April 1, 2019 at 3:47 pm #

          Oh the Red Flag law is gonna pass. How can it not? The Progs, just like CA, own the Senate, the House, and the Governorship. Then as you say we’ll have to wait and see what the counties do. BTW I heard thete is a push underway to recall the governor. How that can even be possible legally I don’t know. Probably just be a rumor started by wishful thinking.

      • Farmer Joe April 1, 2019 at 3:42 pm #

        I remember as a kid my grandparents constantly bemoaning the, “damned Californians” who were moving up here, raising taxes and ruining everything.

        Now that I’m living in that ruin, I have to say they were right.

        • Linda April 1, 2019 at 11:22 pm #

          Same is true for Oregon. We used to be a moderate state whose citizenry elected moderate Republicans and sometimes a moderate Democrat. Now it is populated by progressives and the change to the state is awful to behold. And the crime in Portland and the homelessness is even worse. Oregon used to be a really beautiful state. That is rapidly changing. Governor Tom McCall used to say “come to visit, but go home” to Californians. Everywhere they roost (Californians) gets taken over by progressive politics.

  15. sauerkraut April 1, 2019 at 10:51 am #

    You mean the environment matters? What? What kind a commie talk is that?

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  16. sauerkraut April 1, 2019 at 10:54 am #

    And don’t forget how it all happened. Tax breaks so the midwest can drown and New York can build high.

  17. newworld April 1, 2019 at 11:02 am #

    In Louisiana the locals looted their infrastructure funds to no one’s surprise, but CA the home of the virtuous white liberals, if the state is not a tinderbox it’s a mudslide and a sanctuary state slash ghetto.

  18. hugho April 1, 2019 at 11:09 am #

    Jim you forgot us Left Coasters. You forgot to mention our big river, The Columbia which is riddled with dams well up into BC. One of the distant dams in BC is near the site of a huge landslide. A repeat of that could crash into the lake and cause a cascading failure of dams all the way down similar TO WHAT HAPPENED TO cHINA SOME DECADES AGO WHEN A TYPHOON STALLED OUT and the downstream dams all failed like dominoes. Note the recent report of catastrophic rainfalls in California every 1-2 hundred years which floods the Central Valley all the way to Fresno. The Oroville wouldn’t stand a chance, repaired or not.

    • Oh yeah… Nature bats last eh?

      I’ve been in terrifying, life threatening weather.

      Ya’ll built up your bottomlands and deltas…

      Ya paved over the sandy loam…

      When the floods come they will rampage over an unforgiving terrain.

      Terror awaits you. Nowhere to hide.

      But not today.

      Today will be pleasant and sunny; you’ll joyride in the convertible and snooze in your lazyboy.

      You’ll dream of the fresh summer breezes of youth. Chasing butterflies with your puppy in the park. His soft pink tongue licking your face, wet with tears of joy.

      Then you’ll come gasping to consciousness, the sash blown open, drenching you with sideways rain and small hailstones. Trees will snap and crash through the roof, transformers will explode, the world will go dark, you’ll be knee deep in water, dropping your keys in water in the garage, fumbling to get in your Suburban to escape.

      You’ll back out into the street and make it halfway down the block and, turning out of your subdivision, instantly begin to float, bouyant and drawn into the coursing, churning river the highway has turned into, a flat black mirror reflecting the flashes of ball lightning, as you catch a riptide and tip 30 degrees off center, spilling the contents of the cab into your lap, cold coffee from the previous day, soaking cold and wet into your groin, the box of Li’l Debbie snack cakes tumbling open, raining a snow of powdered sugar across the dashboard.

      Mindless terror grips you as you turn the steering wheel uselessly right and left with your heart pounding against your ribs. The Suburban begins bucking and lurching like a coin operated bronco, until the back end swings the front around, the hood disappears under a wave, the dash lights go black, and something grabs the rear axle, spinning you around and flipping you upside down, your face pressed against the ceiling with nothing but the roar of water and blackness…

      Oh yeah, we’re having fun now…

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  19. rossofthewild April 1, 2019 at 11:20 am #

    Hey, possible upside after that plague hits: a neo-renaissance?

    • K-Dog April 1, 2019 at 11:35 am #

      Used cars would be really cheap.

      • Farmer Joe April 1, 2019 at 3:46 pm #

        So would real estate

  20. BackRowHeckler April 1, 2019 at 11:24 am #

    I gotta look up the Johnstown flood.

    That was a big ‘un


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    • James Howard Kunstler April 1, 2019 at 11:36 am #

      The Johnstown flood was the breach of a very small local dam and a localized disaster. Nothing compared to Oroville, Fort Peck.

      • JohnAZ April 1, 2019 at 12:53 pm #

        And it was the result of an elitist ahole named Frick who had the dam top lowered so he could drive his carriage over the dam to get to his country club to save having to go around the lake. A product of the Gilded Age. Things never seem to change.

        • BackRowHeckler April 1, 2019 at 1:49 pm #

          Jim, John, good bit of information there. Live and learn.


          • malthuss April 1, 2019 at 3:25 pm #

            You sure luv history. Or should I post HERstory.

      • Q. Shtik April 1, 2019 at 5:36 pm #

        The Johnstown flood was the breach of a very small local dam and a localized disaster. – JHK


        A quick search tells me there have been 3 Johnstowns floods. The worst, in 1889, killed more than 2200 people. That’s not chicken feed.

  21. ccm989 April 1, 2019 at 11:39 am #

    Okay so why are we wasting tax payer $$$ on boondoggles like the Mexican wall when the LEVEES in the Midwest are FAILING and FARMS AND TOWNS are literally going under water. No avocados is bad but try NO CORN OR WHEAT and see how quickly prices skyrocket for basic foods like bread and cereal. No on the wall — YES on levees!!!!!

    • I wouldn’t worry too much about your staples. The vast majority of this acreage is in commodities for export, industrial feedstock, corn syrup, etc. America’s bulging with stockpiles of this crap. A lot of insurance write-offs and bankruptcy, sure… domestic agricultural policy already swept away the family farm over the last 60 years… As for the towns… Walmart and Oxycontin already cleaned em out…

      Maybe see a small uptick in prices, nothing to get excited about. Nickels and dimes. Save the terror and panic for widespread droughts…

      Climate change is going to bring down the value of intangibles long before they start hitting the consumer bottom line… Peace of mind, clean air, a stable future… then it gets worse and margins get thinner.

      As for the wall, well, floods come in various flavors. Some are floods of people, guns, diseases and drugs. Some are chemical soups, with flotsam and jetsam of everyday life, seat cushions, tables and chairs, dead bodies.

      Whats a politician to do? Climb into a plane, survey the devastation, declare a state of emergency, activate FEMA protocols, that’s about it.

      • JohnAZ April 1, 2019 at 1:08 pm #

        The word is futility. The answer? Bring in more immigrants to improve the economy.

    • JohnAZ April 1, 2019 at 1:12 pm #

      5 billion to put protection on the border. Hundreds of billions to levee the rivers. Plus, levee them, constrain river courses, the rivers flow higher, which requires more levees. When Katrina happened, the improved the levees some, but improvements cause problems too.

      • 100th Avatar April 1, 2019 at 5:03 pm #

        Now, cryin’ won’t help you, prayin’ won’t do you no good,
        When the levee breaks, mama, you got to move.

  22. San Jose April 1, 2019 at 11:49 am #

    In San Jose, the homeless plague the Guadalupe River watershed. They camp along the banks, pooping everywhere. The area is crawling with tweakers, riding around on their stingray bicycles carrying extra bike parts that hang off the handlebars. I live about three blocks from the banks of the Guadalupe.

    On my way to church the other morning, we noticed a tweaker smoking meth openly along Almaden Expressway, a six-lane main drag, he was jumping around like Tigger the tiger. There is no shame.

    All this came to a head in February when Bambi Larsen was murdered by an illegal-alien tweaker from El Salvador, who had been previously deported and had six ICE detainment orders hanging over his head. (But hey, we are a sanctuary city!)

    Moving at glacial speeds, the mayor and my city counsel person announced a community meeting to address the subject on April 22. I’ll be sure to attend.

    Jen in San Jose

    • JohnAZ April 1, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

      As an outsider, I cannot comprehend the utter stupidity being displayed by all three of the Pacific coast states. In all ways politically. It borders on insanity, like playing Russian roulette. When the diseases hit, it will be dismissed and blamed on climate change and the usage of plastic straws.


      • Linda April 1, 2019 at 11:49 pm #

        Yes, we have gone crazy. Although in Oregon there are still people who would like to change back to how we were. That won’t happen. Instead we continue our crazy behavior. I am old enough to remember when things were “normal.” That phase is over, however. We have all become California up and down the Pacific Coast.

    • Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2019 at 1:30 pm #

      Remember when you scoffed at me when I told you that you lived behind Enemy Lines? I do. Nothing is as tenuous as memory, especially memory that one does not want to recall, especially in the case of women.

      On the plus side, If and when White Men take back parts of America, White Women will not only pretend to have always been on our side, they will believe it as well! And our Wise Men will advise men to pretend to believe them for the sake of going forward. I’m going to put it into the Protocols of the Wise Men of Westeros.

      • Sam Stone April 1, 2019 at 1:40 pm #

        LOL. And Brother those among us with an inkling of common sense will be wise to heed your advice. With nuggets like that The “Protocols of the Wise Men of Westeros” will be mandatory reading for those who wish to live a sane life.

      • San Jose April 1, 2019 at 2:04 pm #

        Yes, Janos–I remember your “behind enemy lines” warning. We are considering a move to Utah–maybe the Heber Valley. The only thing holding me back is our climate because I love my garden all year long.

        Even though I don’t agree with you about a lot of stuff, I respect that you are very well read.


        • Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2019 at 2:43 pm #

          They may even take Utah in time, since the foolish Patriarch reconsidered the importance of Race. Mitt heard it on the radio and stopped on the side of the road to weap. In a short time, he added a little negro bambino to his brood. What a virtuous guy!

          But in the short term, that is certainly your best move.

    • Sam Stone April 1, 2019 at 1:31 pm #

      I feel for you Jen. San Jose is blessed with some of the finest weather on earth. Long ago I had to come out to a distribution center in SJ a few days a month for my job. It was a wonderful experience.

      I first noticed the homeless problem starting all the way back in the nineties. People sleeping in their cars and old rvs. Back then I was astonished by the sight. Because of my job I was in those places and saw it happening. I would tell people but no one believed me. They believe me now. It’s the boiling frog scenario.

    • BackRowHeckler April 1, 2019 at 2:23 pm #

      April 22? 3 weeks from now? Maybe by then a few more citizens will be carved up by ‘tweakers’ in the country illegally.

      What’s the hurry? And if you want to be labelled a ‘hater’, and ‘racist’ go ahead and complain about zombies living rough along the Guadelope River in that stacked community meeting.


      • San Jose April 1, 2019 at 3:40 pm #

        Amen BRH!

        We got a new council rep. who is slow on the uptake.

        Our mayor, Sam Liccardo, has weird ideas about traffic calming. He spends his time reducing lanes for cars so that bicyclists (including said tweakers) can safely scoot around the city. We have all these new, green-painted bicycle lanes that annoy the hell out of me.

        Just watch, next San Jose will ban plastic straws–and the police will busy themselves enforcing eco laws. My son and I went to see Jordon Peterson in San Jose in January–a sell out crowd. The guy who introduced Peterson called San Jose’s conservatives “refugees.” Seriously, conservative beliefs are rare. I keep my mouth shut because I don’t want to lose friends.


        • Sam Stone April 1, 2019 at 4:01 pm #

          If that’s the kind of friends you have it doesn’t sound like they are worth keeping. If I were you I’d be telling them to get stuffed. If you enjoy being around Progs you’d best be questioning what you actually believe in yourself. I find Progressives to be like militant Jehova’s Witnesses. Progs can’t seem to say or do anything without constantly bringing up their left wing ideology.

        • Ricechex April 1, 2019 at 11:22 pm #

          Same thing is happening south of you in San Diego. They are continually getting rid of driving lanes and making new bike lanes. There are NO more bikes on these lanes than there was before (very few) and the traffic is backing up much worse than it was before. It is supposed to be encouraging biking, but the problem is that most people live too far from their jobs (you have to get a job where you can) and have to use a car.

          • malthuss April 1, 2019 at 11:53 pm #

            AGENDA 2030


          • malthuss April 1, 2019 at 11:54 pm #

            but the problem is that most people live too far from their jobs (you have to get a job where you can) and have to use a car.

            That is the point. Keep people in shitties. cities.

  23. mdl17576 April 1, 2019 at 12:15 pm #

    My hometown in central NY had a 100 year flood in ’06 and ’11. When choosing a new house I made sure I was out of the 500 year flood zone. The soil on my 1.75 acres is sandy loam, so one of my planned improvements is a buried 1000 gallon water tank fed by rainwater collection from the roof. Should be enough to get my garden and young orchard through at least a moderate drought.

    • stelmosfire April 1, 2019 at 12:57 pm #

      Mdl, I’ve got 600 gallons stored from the roof. It is not much. Your 1000 gallon tank will only put down 1 inch of water on a 40’x40′ plot. Get a swimming pool.

      • mdl17576 April 1, 2019 at 1:32 pm #

        Valid point. A pool is out of the question, but a bigger tank may be feasible. Fortunately it’s easy to dig here.

  24. Exscotticus April 1, 2019 at 12:42 pm #

    Growth continues to be subsidized and encouraged on all sides of the political spectrum. It’s a race to the bottom to see which breeder cultures can spread and consume the most. Sadly, since we lack the political will to manage growth, any sort of drought or famine or plague would be a much-needed correction. Something dramatic needs to happen to convince the world that 8 billion people relying on a just-in-time distro system isn’t prudent.

  25. GhostOfHam April 1, 2019 at 12:48 pm #

    Maybe the flood is a warning for the fire that might follow?

    That is the Biblical promise.

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  26. JohnAZ April 1, 2019 at 1:00 pm #

    California gets a double whammy. Rains in winter and spring grow great quantities of vegetation which dries out in summer. And burns, like that is what nature intends. The grasslands of the Great Plains prairies are designed to burn. In the west, recycling of nutrients is done by fire. Is it nature’s fault that some group of bozos builds houses in the burn zones.


    Same with hurricanes, tornadoes, floods. Dumb enough to live in those areas, make sure your homeowners, life and flood insurance is paid up.

    • Exscotticus April 1, 2019 at 2:00 pm #

      Easier said than done—particularly when we’re trying to double our population as fast as possible.

      Take a look at this map. Now imagine you can’t build where there are blue tornado track lines. Where are we going to house all the immigrants? The Left is already fuming about those temporary highway overpass shelters.

      • Tate April 1, 2019 at 4:26 pm #

        Well well. Revealing piece from an unlikely source if you ignore the rhetoric. My bet is martial law before this is all over, but a lot of ‘rough justice’ before then. Or maybe not. The dissolute video gamer generations won’t save us.

      • BackRowHeckler April 1, 2019 at 4:48 pm #

        “Where will we put all the immigrants?”

        In New England, they’re stuffed 10 to the room in squalid strip mall motels in the wasteland near suburbs outside New Haven, Hartford, Bridgeport and Springfield.

        The last name of the guys who runs these motels is Patel, every one of them. Its uncanny.


        • BackRowHeckler April 1, 2019 at 4:50 pm #

          And the state is paying the rent.

  27. Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2019 at 1:25 pm #

    JS: Ethnic cleansing is the future. The only question being who will cleanse whom. The gentleman Weasel thinks the Hispanics will sweep all before them for hundreds of miles or more. I think he’s right.

    Charley Waite | March 31, 2019 at 17:10 | Reply
    They are only here for free shit, not emotionally invested in their new land. I expect them to flee or gravitate towards the Quislings

    DWEEZIL THE WEASEL | March 31, 2019 at 19:55 | Reply
    Mr. Waite: A lot of them will not flee. They will be the cannon fodder and Helots for their gang-banger co-ethnics. The barrios will immediately become no-go zones for whatever Orcs and Orcettes decide to stay on the job. Once it becomes clear they have a tactical advantage over “The Thin Blue Line”, they will start probing into the toney areas of SoCal inhabited by the Cosmic White Marxists and begin the pillage and rape.
    Keep in mind a substantial amount of Vato Locos have served in the Army or USMC. They hold a combat or combat-support MOS and have: “seen the elephant” during Gulf War I or Dubya’s “War on Terror.” They know the drill and are not afraid of cops or weekend warriors. They outnumber the Negroes and there is no love lost between the two racial groups.
    Their plans have been ongoing, and some have been formulated by heavy-duty shot-callers in the CA State Prison System. I am not talking out my ass, here. I had plenty of training on this during my last ten years as a Peace Officer. I saw a smattering of incidents where I worked and lived in SoCal. Even after I retired, I would routinely run into Correctional Officers from the Pelican Bay State Prison who would share a few horror stories about what is in the works, should a meltdown happen. Plan accordingly.

    Stealth Spaniel | April 1, 2019 at 00:16 | Reply
    Pelican Bay State Prison is why I would never relocate to the extreme north of California. Folsom State Prison-down the road-is more than enough. (I can hear the correctional officers qualifying on the range every Monday and Friday.) Crescent City is located on the Pacific coast in the upper northwestern part of California, about 20 miles south of the Oregon border. So you folks in Oregon be ready if we get a bad earthquake or society meltdown. The worst of the worst are at Pelican Bay-except for the death row hotel in SF. As nice as the folks in Redding are……..still too close. And of course, there is Susanville……..We should all be figuring prisons into our AO.

    Western Rifle Shooters

    • Exscotticus April 1, 2019 at 2:03 pm #

      >>> I think he’s right.

      So are you learning Spanish? You can start be learning “Gringos pendejos”.

      • Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2019 at 8:26 pm #

        As Suleiman the Magnificent planned his invasion of Europe from the Sea, merchants from all over Europe were lining up to service his forces as they were the odds on favorites. Truly Merchants are the lowest of the low. The should live in constant terror of the Government – it’s simply the only way to keep them honest.

  28. FincaInTheMountains April 1, 2019 at 1:26 pm #


    That vid is pathetic tbh == Tate

    Tate, the most interesting thing is that NOW political implications of this clip in Russia appear to be more substantial than elections in Ukraine.

    Most Russians think that the black woman in the clip is America.

    Here is a typical response:

    Yes, for sure, there is an American prison in which Ramstein sits, V-2 rocket and astronauts – the US stole space from Germany, as well as history and the future … This is America.

    And that bothers me much more than all Biblical floods and plagues in the world.

    • Tate April 1, 2019 at 5:31 pm #

      The perception among Russians is that the Negro woman symbolizes America?

      She is what I was reacting against. I thought she represented Merkel consciousness in Germany. But then the American Deep State has many hidden strings to control its hirelings.

  29. volodya April 1, 2019 at 1:54 pm #

    What happened to the California drought?

    What’s a comin’ ? Answer: same as what come before.

    Not only is there the problem of the existing army of homeless that has no hope in hell and the coming army from south of the border that also has no hope in hell, carrying who knows what diseases, but also American anti-vaxxers that never saw the aftermath of a polio outbreak and wrecked kids in wheel-chairs and leg-braces.

    We haven’t seen the likes of diphtheria in these parts for a long while but, given the stout resistance to the idea of immunization, maybe we’ll make a re-acquaintance.

    And there’s measles. They say that in its hey-day it killed more kids than polio. I had that shitty disease when I was a little kid before they had a vaccine and all I remember is being sick as a dog for about ten days during which I would gladly have expired. Nothing noble about not immunizing the ankle-biters and nothing smart about it.

    But, in the end, failure to deal with reality usually ends with reality dealing with failure. Nobody cancelled natural selection as a force in human affairs. Anti-vaxxers say their stance comes from a position of knowledge. Hokay, we’ll see.

    • montsegur April 1, 2019 at 2:39 pm #

      It won’t take much to punch holes in the fragile shield of technology we’ve built up around us . . . and that will rip away the thin veneer of civilization (thanks John M. Shanahan), or, as Brian Aldiss put it,

      Civilization is the distance man has placed between himself and his excreta.

      Some people seem determined to reduce that distance.


      • volodya April 1, 2019 at 3:25 pm #

        It does seem that some people are determined to reduce that distance. I strongly suspect that they have no idea what what they’ll find when that distance goes to naught, blind and deaf as they are to everything except their own echo-chamber of experience and opinion.

        But there’s a substantial chunk of the world’s population that lives day-in and day-out where that distance is the one between their front-door and the open sewer two steps away in the middle of a mud path. And accounts of what it is to live in that situation are just clicks away on the web and, ironically enough, maybe even as close as mom and pop that came over from the old country.

        But for who-knows-what reason, the anti-vaxxers, and the assorted others of their ilk, are determined to be oblivious and apparently want a replay of the days before Edward Jenner. I suspect that it’s a pose, one designed to get applause from their peers, maybe from an internet audience, but a pose based on the supposition that nothing bad will happen, that while a disease like polio or typhus exists in some fantastical realm, it surely has no reality in their own.

        But, regardless of the fantasy worlds existing in people’s minds, microbes infect and kill.

        As far as civilization goes, and the behavioral fetters that go with it, we saw what happened one short life-time ago when those restraints dropped away.

    • GreenAlba April 1, 2019 at 2:56 pm #


      “Nobody cancelled natural selection as a force in human affairs. Anti-vaxxers say their stance comes from a position of knowledge. Hokay, we’ll see.”

      The trouble with anti-vaxxers is that they destroy carefully fostered herd immunity – they can kill other people, not just their own children.

      There are tiny numbers of children who genuinely can’t be vaccinated because of pre-existing conditions – the ‘herd’ can cope with them if their numbers are not added to by healthy children with dozy parents, and they utterly depend on the herd immunity that other more fortunate children give them.

      Apparently it takes around a 95% vaccination rate to be safe – there’s no further safety margin against the selfish idiots. Since they tend to spend vast amounts of time scouring the internet for anti-scientific drivel, how come they manage to miss all the articles about current measles epidemics in anti-vaxxer strongholds?

      • GreenAlba April 1, 2019 at 3:04 pm #

        A map of where the dozies mostly live:


        • Anon1970 April 1, 2019 at 4:48 pm #

          Most of the US measles cases in recent months have occurred in ultra Orthodox neighborhoods in the New York City area: Williamsburg and Borough park in Brooklyn, and Rockland County north of the city and Ocean County, NJ. I am surprised that Orange County, NY and Crown Heights in Brooklyn weren’t mentioned in the data, as these are also major ultra Orthodox neighborhoods.

          • GreenAlba April 1, 2019 at 7:29 pm #

            That map is dated mid-2018.

            There’s some updated information here from the CDC, with recent outbreaks in NY State and NYC (as you mention), Washington, New Jersey and two counties in California.


          • Mountain gal April 2, 2019 at 12:26 am #

            Different groups of ultra-Orthodox; they are not all the same.

      • volodya April 1, 2019 at 3:29 pm #

        Question: how come they manage to miss all the articles …?

        Answer: selective blindness, an antipathy to cranky old-folks that say get the danged shots dadgummit. If they’d seen up close what polio does, they get the danged shots.

        • Anon1970 April 1, 2019 at 4:53 pm #

          In the measles cases, many of the ultra Orthodox have difficulty with the English language. Read an article written by Chaim Levin for Huffington Post in 2012 about the education he never received. It is available here: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-education-that-i-never-had-growing-up-ultra-orthodox_b_1412953

          • Mountain gal April 2, 2019 at 12:34 am #

            Some ultra-Orthodox sects totally ban the use of the internet, smartphones etc so information is pretty limited to what people hear from friends or relatives, read in a community approved magazine or hear from their rabbi. They aren’t vaccinating their kids for many of the same reasons that the leftist progressives raising vegan “theybies” aren’t but their information sources are different.

            I’m currently in Israel, which is where the source of the measles outbreak in the Orthodox Jewish neighborhoods in the US originated and the government has complied a list of numbers of measles cases by city. At the top of the list is Jerusalem, followed by other ultra-Orthodox strongholds. They are working to get it under control but the numbers of recent measles cases here is in the thousands. A woman just gave birth in a hospital and exposed the entire maternity ward and nursery to measles.

            Education and information is key but it will have to be targeted to the specific communities; can’t use the same approach with Waldorf School yoga moms as with Satmar Hasids in Williamsburg.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 5:43 am #

            Thanks, Mountain Gal – an informative post. Some of the other outbreaks originate outside the US too (e.g. from Europe, where there are also enclaves of anti-vaxxers). It works in all directions, of course, in these ultra-mobile days.

            As you say, it’s hard work educating but it has to be done bearing in mind the origin of the anti-vax stance.

          • Anon1970 April 2, 2019 at 10:44 am #

            Mountain gal: Ukraine reported nearly 12,000 measles cases in January 2019. http://outbreaknewstoday.com/ukraine-measles-update-nearly-12000-cases-in-first-month-of-2019-moh-calls-on-the-medias-help-55898/

            My guess is that the surge in cases in Israel is tied to the annual pilgrimage that tens of thousands of Hasidic Jews and others take each year at the time of Jewish New Year to visit the grave of Rabbi (Rebbe) Nachman of Breslov in Uman, Ukraine. For more background on Uman and the pilgrimages, see the article on Uman in Wikipedia.

            Ukraine’s public health system has experienced a significant decline since the 2014 Revolution enabling a rapid spread of measles.

          • Anon1970 April 2, 2019 at 10:51 am #

            Another good article on the measles situation in Ukraine: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/02/measles-cases-have-tripled-europe-fueled-ukrainian-outbreak

      • Exscotticus April 1, 2019 at 6:17 pm #

        @GreenAlba, I don’t deny that the unvaccinated put themselves and other unvaccinated at risk. But it’s a stretch to call them “selfish idiots”.

        It’s not our responsibility to make life safer for weaker members of “the herd”—particularly when it involves undeniably intrusive means.

        This is a classic example of the “diversity” crowd demanding absolute conformity to their values and beliefs.

        • GreenAlba April 1, 2019 at 7:13 pm #


          And I haven’t the slightest doubt that you’d take pleasure in explaining that to the father of an immuno-suppressed child undergoing cancer treatment. None at all. You can argue about the ‘idiot’ part if you like, but no way on earth can you argue against the self-ish bit,

          The corollary, of course, is that no school in the country is under any moral obligation to accommodate your child. Or any play centre, sports facility or anywhere else. So it’s just as well you’d be happy to home school them and provide personally for their entertainment. Which I’m sure you do, if you have any.

          • Nightowl April 2, 2019 at 5:37 am #

            Some food for thought:

            As you know, I currently live in Germany. One of the most medically advanced nations in the world, and home to many medical breakthroughs.

            Vaccination is optional here.

            When we had our child, the doctors explained the known pros and cons and it was up to us.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 5:52 am #


            Vaccination is optional here in the UK too, in the sense that there’s no law, national or local, obliging anyone to vaccinate their child. It just happens to be managed centrally by the NHS, but nobody forces you to vaccinate your child and anyone is free to discuss the issues with their doctor – obviously it would be an issue for a vulnerable child, but generally doctors would advise immunisation.

            And when the MMR scare was at its height, it was possible for parents to pay about £100 a pop to a private practitioner to have the three discrete vaccinations instead, if they were worried but still wanted their children vaccinated.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 5:56 am #

            I presume it still is possible for parents to pay for the discrete vaccinations – no reason why that will have changed.

            The thing you get in the UK, though, with medical treatment being free at the point of care, is people wanting to be indulged AND to be indulged at no cost.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 8:21 am #


            Not having a go at you here at all (at least I hope it doesn’t turn out that I am!), but when you said ‘I currently live in Germany. One of the most medically advanced nations in the world, and home to many medical breakthroughs., it reminded me of something I read one time. Not this actual article but the statistics in it. France is similarly afflicted, I believe. And the UK has six million equally gullible people with more money than sense.


            So our countries can be as medically advanced as they like and some people will still choose the 18th century 🙂 .

            I’ve always liked this little gem from The Daily Mash (the poor man’s The Onion but we’re only a little country!


          • Elrond Hubbard April 2, 2019 at 12:35 pm #

            Brexit fumes? A little reiki will fix that right up. Just get your chakras in order.

        • GreenAlba April 1, 2019 at 7:15 pm #

          Not that I’m demanding any kind of conformity from you. Or any humanity. That’s your choice.

        • GreenAlba April 1, 2019 at 7:34 pm #

          Perhaps you could design some sort of badge that non-vaccinated children could stitch to their clothing at all times, so that people could make their own choices about letting their children approach them or play with them? I’m sure you’d accept a bit of give and take along those lines. You could have a separate icon for every vaccination the child hasn’t had. Call it personal responsibility.

          • GreenAlba April 1, 2019 at 7:39 pm #

            Kiddies like the hypothetical one with cancer would of course get a separate badge design, given their non-vaccinated status wouldn’t be the result of their parents’ ideological red lines.

        • GreenAlba April 1, 2019 at 8:30 pm #


          “It’s not our responsibility to make life safer for weaker members of “the herd”—particularly when it involves undeniably intrusive means.”

          It’s just occurred to me how one-sided your thinking actually is and how deep your narcissism is. It never occurred to you to say ‘if my child is getting cancer treatment, it’s not my neighbour’s responsibility to help lower his or her risk of dying unnecessarily by getting his children vaccinated’.

          I guess some people just always think bad stuff only happens to other people. Or maybe your ideology really would mean more to you than any children you might have.

        • Exscotticus April 1, 2019 at 10:06 pm #


          >>> And I haven’t the slightest doubt that you’d take pleasure in explaining that to the father of an immuno-suppressed child undergoing cancer treatment. None at all.

          Fuck you.

          If that child required a million dollars in medical treatment per day, would you bankrupt your entire country to provide a bit more life? I don’t think you would. I think when it comes to demanding personal sacrifice to help our most vulnerable, you have your limits as well. And that makes you a hypocrite.

          Meanwhile, the fact is that there are numerous activities we engage in that either directly or indirectly increase risks for others.

          Take driving, for example. It undeniably increases risk of injury and death for oneself and others.

          Don’t drive? Doesn’t matter! Do you accept delivery of packages? Do you purchase goods at stores? All of that encourages driving and therefore increases risks for others.

          Now are you a “selfish idiot” for driving? Or for accepting packages? Or for buying groceries? Are you really prepared to pull an AOCrazy and ban all vehicles?

          Being the farm girl that you are, I don’t want you to come back with some miss-the-point retort about how you don’t drive, grow all your own food and live off the land. Do you sleep in a bed? Do you use a pillow? Well then you’re a “selfish idiot”, because beds and pillows kill thousands of babies every year. To protect these vulnerable children, we need to give up our beds and pillows! And prosecute those who make them, sell them, distribute them or use them. If it saves even ONE LIFE then it’s worth the sacrifice!

          You basically want to make all individual rights subservient to the needs of your favored class, which in this case happens to be, “immuno-suppressed child undergoing cancer treatment”.

          >>> The corollary, of course, is that no school in the country is under any moral obligation to accommodate your child.

          No problem—so long as I’m under no moral obligation to pay the taxes. Given that schools are largely just liberal indoctrination centers, children are better off getting their education elsewhere.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 4:34 am #

            “If that child required a million dollars in medical treatment per day, would you bankrupt your entire country to provide a bit more life? I don’t think you would.”

            You’d be right. Even if it were my child.

            So stop being a moron, Exscotticus. We’re talking about a ****ing vaccination.

            But hey, I see that really got to you, so, good.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 4:42 am #

            I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a regiment of straw men conscripted and all standing at the ready in one place to no purpose whatsoever 🙂 .

            I guess there are some things you just can’t vaccinate against.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 7:35 am #

            You know what I think happened there, Exscotticus, that provoked your ‘Fuck you +’?

            I think you saw your misanthropic reflection in the mirror for just a second and even you didn’t like it. Hence the verbal diarrhoea to cover your shame. The horror, the horror…

            That’s evidence of hope, Exscotticus. Don’t be ashamed of being human for a second.

            And yeah, I know, fuck me, eh… Bless.

            “There is more joy in heaven etc. etc.” 🙂

            Have a good day.

          • Exscotticus April 2, 2019 at 10:42 am #

            >>> We’re talking about a ****ing vaccination.

            We’re talking about an invasive medical procedure that you want all individuals to undertake, so that you can potentially extend the lives of the “immuno-suppressed”.

            Straw man? If the state were to demand other minimally invasive medical procedures for reasons of “safety and security,” you would no doubt flip out and demand your “human rights”.

            Straw man? Any problem with forced subcutaneous contraception for women going to prison? Surely you don’t have the right to get knocked up in prison at taxpayer expense while you’re serving out a felony sentence. And, unlike vaccinations, childbirth carries significant risk—both for the mother and child. Indeed, the risks here are far more significant and transparent than in your scenario: a missed vaccination causing the death of the “immuno-suppressed”.

            I bet you’d even object to something as harmless as forced baptism. A simple non-invasive procedure that merely involves a quick dunking and a prayer. Takes a few seconds. And the benefits? Potentially HUGE—the saving of your immortal soul (that is, if you believe that stuff; if not, you’re no worse for wear).

            >>> You know what I think happened there, Exscotticus, that provoked your ‘Fuck you +’?

            What happened was that you obnoxiously implied that I take pleasure in human suffering, merely because I refuse to let people like you force me to make personal sacrifices for the benefit of your favored classes. Charity can’t be forced—a lesson you liberals just don’t seem to grasp.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 11:11 am #


            I’m not a liberal – I’ve told you that already. And I have at no point advocated forcing anyone to vaccinate their children. But nor do I accept their right to mix anywhere and everywhere as a risk to other people. Wear the badge, sunshine.

            Parents of healthy children who refuse to have them vaccinated do a disservice to their children and risk causing mayhem – I presume you read Mountain Gal’s post about the situation in Israel. And you admitted as much yourself. I presume you’re quite happy for those visitors returning to the US with their Israel-acquired infections and passing them on to everyone else back home, including your hypothetical children.

            What the anti-vaxxers do in the US and Europe is freeloading. And you’re the person who doesn’t like that normally.

            And you don’t need to be an immuno-suppressed cancer patient to die from measles if you’re not vaccinated. That was an example – but you knew that.

            Personal sacrifice? Charity? You’re a joke, Exscotticus. And a shameless advocate of freeloading.

          • Exscotticus April 2, 2019 at 11:27 am #

            >>> But nor do I accept their right to mix anywhere and everywhere as a risk to other people.

            My auto example above is not a straw man now!—because you just altered your argument to include denying “the right to mix anywhere” due to “risk to other people”. Check your facts; even bicycles increase risks for others!

            You’re not a liberal? You sure act like one. You want to decide what risks are acceptable in accordance with your own values and beliefs. You then deny others their humanity when they disagree.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 11:47 am #

            We’re talking about vaccination of healthy children, Exscotticus – nobody’s asking you to donate a kidney to an illegal immigrant.

            Similarly, I hire a car a couple once or twice a year. But if I saw a sign asking me to take a short detour to avoid pumping exhaust fumes beside a local primary school, I’d happily take the detour. Sacrifice? Please.

            You remain a freeloader by conviction on the matter and therefore a hypocrite because you claim to be against freeloading. I’m willing to bet if there was a measles outbreak in your area every year and the vaccination rate was 5% your hypothetical children would be part of that 5%. Unless you’re just not fit to be a parent, obviously.

            What makes me question your humanity is what you yourself said. Ask Elysianfield.

          • Exscotticus April 2, 2019 at 12:09 pm #

            I’m a “freeloader” because I support the right to not undergo forced invasive medical procedures for the benefit of others? What definition of freeloader are you using? Link please.

            Would you call fat people freeloaders? While they gorge themselves, children in Africa are starving. Is it too much to demand that fat people not eat so much? Any objection to a law requiring as much? How about we deny fat people the right to travel, as it may offend the skinny and malnourished?

            How about the wealthy? While they live in mansions, others are homeless. So the wealthy are freeloaders?

            You have a farm?! Others have NOTHING! Freeloader!

          • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2019 at 8:50 pm #

            As an out law, you are outside the Law – free game for anyone who wants you. Those who have no obligations have no rights either.

          • GreenAlba April 5, 2019 at 9:54 am #

            “I’m a “freeloader” because I support the right to not undergo forced invasive medical procedures for the benefit of others?”

            Nope, that would make you an advocate of freeloading, not a freeloader, hence my use of ‘freeloader by conviction’. I did try to refer throughout to your hypothetical children.

            The point is not that they are being vaccinated ‘for the benefit of others’ but that they are taking the benefit that others are giving them by being vaccinated, without reciprocating.

            But no-one’s going to stop them – certainly not me. I support their right to be freeloaders too. I just don’t think much of them for it. I thought we were in a free bit of cyberspace where it was OK to say that.

            And it’s not the children, it’s the parents making decisions on their behalf. It’s not the parents who mostly get measles either and sometimes die.

          • GreenAlba April 5, 2019 at 11:31 am #

            *though* not *either*

        • elysianfield April 2, 2019 at 11:07 am #

          “It’s not our responsibility to make life safer for weaker members of “the herd’

          I cannot believe you wrote the above…it is the essence of civilization to allow the weak amongst us to survive. It is not necessarily a positive for the gene pool, but is the essence, nonetheless….

          It was State law in California, even in the ’50’s to allow state sanctioned sterilization for the criminally insane…an attempt to keep them from urinating in the pool….

          The Germans, during the “troubles” tried a different spin on the issue.

          • elysianfield April 2, 2019 at 11:12 am #

            I was in error, Exscot wrote the piece. It is a long, convoluted thread. Mea Culpa.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 11:12 am #

            I cannot believe you wrote the above…”

            Good, EF. Because I didn’t. I was quoting Exscotticus.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 11:13 am #

            So do feel free to take it up with him, but be beware, he’s in a very defensive mood 🙂 .

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 11:15 am #

            ‘beware’ or ‘be aware’, obvs 🙂

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 11:17 am #

            Nae worries, EF 🙂

          • Exscotticus April 2, 2019 at 11:43 am #

            >>> it is the essence of civilization to allow the weak amongst us to survive.

            First off, we don’t decide who survives or not. Ultimately, none of us survive.

            The key term here is in how you define: allow. I’m certainly not denying the weak their chance at life. I simply don’t support the idea that the state can require personal sacrifices to achieve these aims. I’m not stopping you from making personal sacrifices for your pet causes. Knock yourself out. Don’t forget to virtue-signal to others in the process, so that they know you’re a righteous person worthy of adulation.

            Don’t talk to me about law. A “duty to rescue” doesn’t exist in either the USA or the UK. And rightfully so.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 11:55 am #

            FFS, Exscotticus, nobody’s talking about a sacrifice – it’s a vaccination of a healthy child.

            And nobody yet has advocated the state forcing you to vaccinate your child. You don’t want to vaccinate your child? Just keep it away from everyone else’s children.

            “Don’t forget to virtue-signal to others in the process, so that they know you’re a righteous person worthy of adulation.”

            Bollocks. Sorry you’re butthurt, as you like to say over your way.

            “A “duty to rescue” doesn’t exist in either the USA or the UK.”

            I don’t recall anyone saying that it did, although I’m familiar with the criminal offence of ‘non-assistance à une personne en danger from where I used to live.

          • Exscotticus April 2, 2019 at 12:21 pm #

            >>> FFS, Exscotticus, nobody’s talking about a sacrifice – it’s a vaccination of a healthy child.

            And that’s the problem. You don’t consider it a sacrifice. You simply can’t get past your own values and beliefs to accept that others have their own ideas.

            And this, folks, is what the “diversity-loving” crowd is all about. This apparent love of diversity is a cudgel only to be used one way, to demand that YOU accept THEIR beliefs. Never the other way around.

            >>> And nobody yet has advocated the state forcing you to vaccinate your child. You don’t want to vaccinate your child? Just keep it away from everyone else’s children.

            That’s a contradiction. “No one is forcing you to vaccinate; we’ll just deny you the right to leave your home and force you to wear a badge.”

            Follow your own advice. Keep your car, your bicycle, and all the other myriad things you use that increase risk for others away from us. And get rid of those chooks! Avian influenza kills WAY MORE PEOPLE every year than missed vacccinations.

            Stop being a “freeloader”!

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 1:49 pm #


            This is my last reply on this obviously pointless thread.

            (1) The badge thing was a joke. I don’t do yellow stars or anything like them. Sorry your irony level is so low. Have you no sense of the ridiculous? Silly question.

            (2) I have no chickens. Since you pick over my posts to find things to argue with, you should know I live in a flat, very near to the centre centre. That’s much more eco-friendly (especially since it’s been here for 140 years) than having a big house but it’s not why I live here. I live in a small flat because a small flat is what I can afford, and at this stage of my life I like being within walking distance of lots of places and a short bus ride from a lot more. If I were wealthier I’d own somewhere with enough land or just a big garden to grow stuff in. But I’m not.

            We have a garden which we share with another seven flats – we agree to all sorts, like the upstairs neighbours’ child’s trampoline, but chooks would be pushing it. We try to be reasonable neighbours. The guy upstairs who’s 80 and has had a couple of heart attacks nevertheless likes to cut the grass. Three or four of us bought him a ‘new’ second-hand mower when someone stole the earlier one. My husband does the edges and the borders (no Mexicans!).

            (3) I don’t have a bike. Or a car. Or anything else I can think of that goes near anyone else. I take it I’m allowed to carry an umbrella safely hidden in my bag.

            You like to miss my points, so I’ll repeat that I don’t live an exemplary life in any way – I just cut down on some things I can cut down on. Nobody else but people who read this even knows that.

            And I still don’t understand your point about the ‘sacrifice’ of vaccinating your child. The child seems to be sacrificed to your ideology, as far as I can see, since it’s not the child who makes the decision. The science is on my side, and I don’t believe for a second that you wouldn’t vaccinate a healthy child of yours if there was no herd immunity to freeload on and there were regular measles outbreaks in your area causing severe illnesses and some deaths.

          • Exscotticus April 2, 2019 at 2:28 pm #

            >>> The badge thing was a joke. I don’t do yellow stars or anything like them.

            As a non-liberal liberal, you should know better than to make jokes involving Holocaust-related atrocities.

            >>> and I don’t believe for a second that you wouldn’t vaccinate a healthy child of yours

            You’re wrong; I would vaccinate regardless. I’m not against vaccinations; I’m against people forcing decisions on others in the name of safety, security, science, and the like. I’m for expanding individual freedom and responsibility. I realize that’s an alien concept in the socialist British Isles.

            I have no doubt that if there was a vote to force people to vaccinate, you’d vote for it. You would deny others the choice. I also have no doubt that you’d vote against forced subcutaneous contraception for felons in prison. You virtue-signal about saving children, but what kind of life do prison-babies have? Born in a prison to a convicted felon?

            You should get some chooks for the garden. They’ll eat the bugs, and you’ll get eggs. Think of it as a Victory Garden in preparation for the coming Brexpocalypse. Of course you’ll be increasing everyone’s risk to avion flu. Maybe if you’re lucky, though, the folks around you will be more open to different ideas than you are, and won’t vote against it.

          • GreenAlba April 5, 2019 at 8:03 am #


            ” I realize that’s an alien concept in the socialist British Isles.”

            Vaccination isn’t in any way compulsory in the UK. I can’t speak for the other nation state in the British Isles, but perhaps you know. Nor are unvaccinated children banned from schools – that’s a US thing. Probably because you have lower uptake rates for reasons we don’t need to go into.

            “>>> “and I don’t believe for a second that you wouldn’t vaccinate a healthy child of yours” [GA]

            You’re wrong; I would vaccinate regardless.” [Ex]

            But that kinda makes me right too…

            Your idea of socialism is strange to say the least. But unsurprising.

            “I have no doubt that if there was a vote to force people to vaccinate, you’d vote for it. You would deny others the choice.”

            No doubt? Your presumptuousness does not surprise me in the least either – it’s a feature you share with Janos. It is perfectly possible to have a view on freeloading anti-vaxxers without wishing to try to legislate people into sensible or unselfish behaviour.

            Just as it is possible to conclude that Brexit is going to be hugely damaging to the British people and be worried, in particular, for certain sectors of the population and yet not push in any way for a second referendum in the hope of undoing it. That is my position too. I was neither among the million marchers in London nor even among the more anonymous six million plus who have signed the internet petition to revoke Article 50 (by contrast 606,000 have petitioned to leave without a deal). It’s best people see the consequences of their own decisions in such cases.

            I’m obviously sorry that those Brexit voters who don’t have an investment business like Rees-Mogg and Redwood, or private means like Boris, will lose even more than the average Remain voter, but that was their choice, even if they weren’t given valid information on which to make it. I will, however, suck up any tax increases and loss of services, particularly healthcare, consequent upon their vote. They’re still my compatriots. If I’m not allowed free speech to say what I think about it, though, that’s a different matter and you should say so, as with the vaccination issue.

            Obviously it would be handy if only the people who voted for it suffered the consequences, but I’ll take one for the team as well – no problem at all, as long as they stand up to be counted in years to come and don’t pretend they didn’t vote for it.

            Sorry, have I missed some dialogue we had about pregnant felons? You must have an odd way of doing things over your way – I’m not aware of people getting pregnant in prison being a thing over here, but maybe I’m missing something about the logistics. I thought being ‘banged up’ referred to the fact that they were in cells. Silly me.

            Re the garden, I don’t imagine you have any awareness of Scottish tenement law, but never mind. In our block, we’re very easy-ozy, apart from the couple in the other maindoor flat across from the ‘stair’ door. They’re a bit territorial but we’re still friendly with them.

            We don’t ‘vote’. We speak to each other. Hence the couple who wanted the trampoline just asked around if anyone minded, which of course they didn’t. They’re a bit hippyish so they’d probably like the chooks too, but Grumpy Couple across the way don’t even like the dog going in the garden for a couple of minutes to get a quick run, so chooks would be out.

            There is already a Back Green movement in Edinburgh.


            We are not short of forward-thinking people and we are already community minded – tenement living encourages that. Unfortunately ours doesn’t get enough sun to grow anything you could eat, so it’s only used for leisure and drying laundry. We will have to rely on more general social capital when things turn bad. Fortunately we are a bit more like that anyway, so we may adapt better than our neighbours further south, although they will obviously have the climatic advantage when it comes to food growing.

            But no-one knows when or how it will come and what form it will take. And it will not be the same in different places, so we’ll just have to be open minded until ‘it’ happens. Not much else we townies can do.

            And it’s Avian ‘flu.

          • GreenAlba April 5, 2019 at 9:05 am #

            Re my Brexit ‘people’s vote’ point, if there were to be a second – more informed – referendum that I haven’t asked for, I’d vote in it, because not doing so would be ridiculous.

            But, although I think it’s right in many ways for there to be one – because people weren’t asked to vote for a no-deal cliff-jump that will make them poorer, they were asked to vote for Global Britain marching towards the sunlit uplands to watch the unicorns frolicking, thanks to the easiest trade deal in the known universe (‘the EU needs us more that we need them’ hahahahaha) – I don’t personally want one. At this point, I’m so sick of Brexshit that I’d rather we left next Friday without a deal. ***k them. Let the people who did this sort out the mess.

            And I’d like to see Johnson and Rees-Mogg stand for election, if either of them gets to take over from the Maybot, especially once Brexit has made even more money for Rees-Mogg’s investment business – and see them wiped out because of what they’ve done. But then we’d get Jeremy.

            Better just forget about the lot of them and enjoy the sunshine.

  30. wm5135 April 1, 2019 at 1:56 pm #


    In my decades of life, I have observed that people with their heads planted up their ass tend to remain in that state.

    Beryl of Oil

    The social strife started well before Donald Trump ever rode down the escalator.
    It began during Barack Obama’s second term, when he didn’t have to worry about reelection.

    There, that is better.

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  31. 100th Avatar April 1, 2019 at 2:43 pm #

    “Gawd knows what is coming across the border into America’s proudly leading “sanctuary state.” Wait for it. Just sayin’

    Lycurgus said something to the effect of “you can begin with your family” when asked about having a democracy in Sparta.

    The problem with California pols:
    They don’t have any, they don’t matter, and if they do they start the experiments with them.

  32. montsegur April 1, 2019 at 2:56 pm #

    The slurry construction of the dam inclines it to liquification


    A minor note on terminology. I think the term you intended to use was “liquefaction”, as in “soil liquefaction”. Thanks to an engineer I know who pointed out that term.


  33. BuckP April 1, 2019 at 4:52 pm #

    “We’re unique in the history of mammals. We’re unique in this history of vertebrates. The fossil record shows that no other species of large-bodied beast — above the size of an ant, say or an Antarctic krill — has ever achieved anything like such abundance as the abundance of humans on Earth right now.” ——
    from the book Spillover by David Quamman

    Roughly 70,000 years ago, the hman race was down to 20,000 cold, quivering fearful souls huddled together on the East African plains, which were covered with a 6″ deep layer of ash and had turned colder due the eruption of Mount Toba(largest known volcanic eruption, 2800 times larger than Mt. St. Helens). Some estimates speculate that we homo sapians were down to 40 mating pairs. Whew! Close xall!

    As we all know, humans recovered quite nicely and by1804 had multiplied to a population of one billion people. We are now at a population of 7 billion with projections of 11 billion by 2100.

    Being large mammals, (we cummulatively outweigh the dinosaurs by a factor of 100 to 1), we require a lot of beef, chickens, pigs, fish, eggs, vegetables, grain, fruits and nuts to survive and keep this show on the road and then there’s the energy and clean water requirements.

    I lived in Olympia, WA, when St. Helens erupted and realized that Mother Earth isn’t a burnt, inert cinder. We now bow at the feet of and worship the high-tech wizards and magicians who have created the world’s fraudalent finincial markets that purport to put a real value on the earthly things we need to survive. If we don’t blow ourselves up with nuclear weapons first, Ma Nature will have the last word.

    • Anon1970 April 1, 2019 at 4:57 pm #

      Some Americans are waiting for their Messiah to come back to earth. The Evangelicals and ultra Orthodox Jews are two groups that come to mind.

  34. fugeguy April 1, 2019 at 5:24 pm #

    Things are running on fumes and inertia now. Especially since extraordinary measures, to prop things up, have become business as usual. Rate cuts and eventual negativity with a bail-in on top will mark the final chapter of the financial shenanigans. Then we will see how the unraveling of bailing wire and duct tape, applied to an irresistible force, never designed to fail at full speed appears when denial is no longer possible- spectacular me thinks…

    But a little ways to go, I think, before reality has her say. That is barring a significant black swan event. System frailties are increasing in strength and numbers. So a crack will propagate to full blown catastrophic failure more easily. The proverbial straw and such.

    Just a matter of time now. But I think the new normal has a ways to go, which is a shame because the new normal is a parasite and the host will be all the sicker once it succumbs. Farther to fall before hitting bottom makes the boom bigger.

    We will surely make the history books should they be written.

    • CitizenG April 1, 2019 at 5:36 pm #

      Roughly 70,000 years ago, the hman race was down to 20,000 cold, quivering fearful souls huddled together on the East African plains

      Not that I put a lot of stock in ancient anthropology, Buck, but many scientists believe that Neanderthals lived in thrived in Europe since about 200,000 years ago. They lasted along time too, til around 30,000 years ago (if you want to believe the science on this).


      • Exscotticus April 1, 2019 at 5:49 pm #

        >>> the hman race was down to 20,000 cold, quivering fearful souls huddled together on the East African plains

        …and the Left has been trying to recreate this utopia ever since (only in greater numbers).

        • BuckP April 1, 2019 at 9:20 pm #

          Reminds me of a bumber sticker we used to affix to our old, beaten up Jeeps and trucks when I was an engineering student many decades ago at the Colorado School of Mines.

          • 100th Avatar April 1, 2019 at 11:44 pm #

            My favorite 80’s bumper sticker:

            “You can’t hug children with nuclear arms”

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 11:23 am #

            Ah but can you hug them with nukular ones?

          • BuckP April 2, 2019 at 3:22 pm #

            “nukular” — That’s how Yale-grad George W pronounced nuclear. Enough said!

  35. Pucker April 1, 2019 at 6:47 pm #

    This Beto phenomena is a bit weird, particularly in the context of the Trump – Russia collusion BS. Beto O’Rourke is an ethnic Irish bloke who seemingly purposefully darkens his skin and adopts the name “Beto” in order to pass as a Mexican, and the People are so weak minded that no one notices. It’s scary….

    Do you remember Rachel Dolezal, the White woman who was frequenting the tanning salon and curling her hair and who then finagled her way into a responsible position with some Civil Rights Black activist organization in Washington State? It’s so sad. It’s embarrassing….


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    • Pucker April 1, 2019 at 6:48 pm #

      George Washington, Samuel Adams, Benjamin Franklin and others all quoted Cato, and they wanted to be associated with Cato’s memory. Would you want to associate with a bloke who tans himself and gives himself a Mexican pet name to try to pass himself off as a Mexican?

      “Cato’s struggle against Caesar, and against his Republic’s collapse, played out across the benches of the Senate House and the battlefields of a civil war. But it was their final confrontation that turned Cato into a legend. Facing Caesar’s total victory, Cato committed suicide in the North African town of Utica, choosing to take his own life rather than live a single day under Caesar’s rule. His stand against tyranny and his famous suicide made Cato the icon of civic duty. They also made him the pagan saint of lost causes.“

      Rob Goodman
      Rome’s Last Citizen: The Life and Legacy of Cato, Mortal Enemy of Caesar

    • Majella April 9, 2019 at 11:12 pm #

      Pucker: “Beto O’Rourke is an ethnic Irish bloke who seemingly purposefully darkens his skin and adopts the name “Beto” in order to pass as a Mexican, and the People are so weak minded that no one notices. It’s scary….”

      Puker, I cannot let this utterly twisted bullshit stand.

      What’s scary is how the myopic right/conservative cohort is ready to BELIEVE something as absurd and fictional as what you have posted.

      If you DON’T believe it, then further shame on you for perpetuating a nasty smear, which is NOT mitigated by the sneaky “seemingly”. That’s just less obvious employment of Trump’s favorite “people are saying…” tactic for broadcasting lies to his faithful horde of MAGA dickheads.

  36. Walter B April 1, 2019 at 7:08 pm #

    What I would dearly like to know is that if many if not most of those that suffered suffered losses during these events had insurance for such happenings, how can the insurance industry pay out such massive amounts in compensation? Are there normally a lot of defaults and bankruptcies following disasters of this magnitude? Does the government simply print up more cash and funnel it through FEMA to pay for it all? Any ideas anybody?

    • Pucker April 1, 2019 at 7:18 pm #

      Insurance contracts often contain exclusions that shield the insurance company from assuming the risk, which is ironic. For example, riots, war, civil strife are often excluded so that you’re not covered for a race riot.

      “After the black leaders retreated to Greenwood, throngs of whites—the crowd around the courthouse had by now grown to perhaps ten thousand—began to scour the city’s gun shops for weapons. Scouring turned to looting, and after pillaging every downtown weapons store, the mob turned as if as a single man toward Tulsa’s African-American district. Meanwhile, the city’s police chief was urgently calling the governor to request National Guard troops be sent immediately by special trains, this even as Greenwood began to be swamped by a flood of armed marauders. Greenwood’s agony would last through the night and into the following morning. As though it were Gettysburg, black men positioned themselves to defend each building and each block, Greenwood’s guardians desperately trying to save their homes and businesses and community. But these African-American men soon found themselves under massive attack, even being strafed by the machine gun of an airplane buzzing over the district’s residential streets. The whites attacking Greenwood far outnumbered the community’s defenders. Enraged whites shot at any black person they saw, woman or girl, man or boy, it made little difference. Blacks trying to escape burning buildings were shot, sometimes even being thrown back into the flames of their homes. Black corpses were tied to car bumpers and dragged through the city. White rioters turned back fire trucks, and those few police officers who arrived on the scene acted more as rioters themselves than as law enforcement officials. Uncounted numbers of black corpses were later found dumped in the Arkansas River, where they floated downstream under the blistering Oklahoma sun, rotting carcasses missed only by grieving families and friends. All told, twenty-five thousand whites had rampaged through Greenwood, supremely defiant of the law and determined simply to kill as many African-Americans as possible; many of these rioters were Klansmen. Estimates from research conducted almost seven decades later by the Tulsa Race Riot Commission indicated that some three hundred Tulsans died, perhaps 90 percent of them black; the precise number is unknowable because of the sheer disruption the riot caused to Greenwood and its people. Property damage was also staggering: twelve hundred buildings were burned, many of them looted before being set ablaze; black Tulsans afterward saw white people in the city’s streets wearing familiar clothing and jewelry. Tulsa’s African-Americans were never reimbursed on their insurance claims, the companies refusing to pay because of antiriot clauses in the policies. Nor did the city of Tulsa ever pay a penny to a single black citizen.“

      Jerrold M. Packard
      American Nightmare: The History of Jim Crow

      • Walter B April 1, 2019 at 7:31 pm #

        You mean, like “acts of God?”

  37. SouthernYankee April 1, 2019 at 7:17 pm #

    In older posts, I remember JHK saying he believed that the Northeast US would prove to be the best place to live during and after the Long Emergency. For once I’m actually gonna listen to him and move back there (Staying out of NYC). I’m done with the South and given up ideals of moving out west. I guess I’ll have to change my handle. Maybe……Northern Rebel. Has a nice ring to it, don’tcha think?

    • Have you thought this through? A reinforced bunker built into the side of a small mountain should be all you need to thrive.

      • SouthernYankee April 1, 2019 at 8:22 pm #

        I live in Florida. The only bunker down here is the marine kind because there ain’t no mountains. Besides, I’ve only been in exile down here for three years. I say exile because the pay sucks and the die off which JHK has spoken off happens here everyday with all the elderly.

        • SoftStarLight April 2, 2019 at 1:50 am #

          Well now you do know that Florida is hardly the South. I mean geographically sure. But not really in any other way anymore. Its more like Gotham meets the Gulf if you think about it.

  38. Elrond Hubbard April 1, 2019 at 8:09 pm #

    “It’s easier to break an atom than a prejudice.” — Albert Einstein


    Happy April 1, everyone!

    • SoftStarLight April 2, 2019 at 1:46 am #

      It’s a Canadian invasion :-)!

      • Elrond Hubbard April 2, 2019 at 6:55 pm #

        One day Canada will take over the world. Then you’ll all be sorry. 🙂

  39. ozone April 1, 2019 at 8:25 pm #

    To those posters pointing at “the other” group/party being the prime source of their troubles and lack of preparation, I would only advise: Stop shitting in your own stream; disallow others from doing so, and LEAD YOURSELF. (I think we can see that supporting profiteers is counter-productive to ones survival. Refrain from doing so.)

    • Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2019 at 8:30 pm #

      What absurd propaganda. The individual alone is nothing. We could have no conquered the Indians with that attitude.

      • Farmer Joe April 1, 2019 at 9:24 pm #

        I’ll give ozone a participation trophy for that one.

        • ozone April 1, 2019 at 10:01 pm #

          Do as you like, but you have to know where you’re going and why exactly you want to get there before enlisting the aid of others or adding your strengths to theirs. Too many just want someone to lead them to the promised land without a thought about that leader’s motives, and generally they’re too friggin’ lazy to find out. This enables the Uber-State and con-men like our current President.

          • JohnAZ April 1, 2019 at 10:39 pm #

            The entire DC scene is a con job.

          • SoftStarLight April 2, 2019 at 1:37 am #

            I think its a fair point. Leaders can lie so easily. Ultimately though survival will be a group effort. But you’re right. Each person needs to develop their skills, talents and strengths. Not only to better themselves but to better the group. It is easy (very easy for some) to sort of not have a lot of motivation and to look to others for direction. So the admonition is appreciated.

          • Farmer Joe April 2, 2019 at 9:08 am #

            Tell that to the dems. I spend 1 to 4 hours daily researching.

          • SoftStarLight April 2, 2019 at 9:53 am #

            That’s impressive Joe. I hope more people are doing what you are doing. But clearly many are not. The web is such a blessing for people looking for answers beyond those cooked up for the low information masses. I bet you at some point the internet gets taken off line by the ptb. Or the internet will become completely regulated and no longer a source of anything but Establishment babble.

          • volodya April 2, 2019 at 11:05 am #

            Yep, Ozone’s comment was the moon landing.

            You can point to so many of today’s troubles as the logical result of people being too lazy to work things out for themselves, of not thinking things through, of ignoring what’s plainly evident, of wanting to be led. So much to pick from, like how this Russia Collusion stuff cleared the launch-pad and became the non-stop issue of the day for three years at the expense of other burning problems that suffered from general inattention. Don’t trust the consensus, people are herd animals and if everyone sez something is true, then ask yourself cui bono from everyone thinking this same way.

      • malthuss April 2, 2019 at 12:59 am #

        world jewish congress and bronfman


  40. And so… The repopulation of Saratoga Springs began.

    A strange cult of blog reading weirdos began to arrive, bolstering the citizenry with a cult to rival the Mennonites or even the Amish… Reseeding the fields… Sharpening the mill-blades… Holding seminar in the foriers of the old textile mills.

    The hills will rumble to life with the industry of steam and coal engines, creating a navy of merchant barges and hammers will ring all day restoring the old iron line. The womenfolk will create a bustling domestic industry and revive a happy continuity of loving families and energetic children.

    The bees will fly among the late summer flowers and all will swing the harvest scythes… And put up hay in the enormous barns erected in a fortnite, tucked in the deep vallies. A wholesome organic agriculture will produce dependable fresh milk, cheese and eggs. Abundance, and resilience. The last redoubt in this chaotic climate, under the threatening sky.

    The conditions for acceptance into this society will be modest.

    First, you give up your private vehicle. Only certain vehicles are permitted. Two, your membership is up for review at any time a quorum of town elders declares that it be decided, and that its decision is final.

    Of course the choice is yours… Out there beyond the sight line, among the starving, gibbering human wreckage.. Make what life you will among them instead, heathen… Or no admittance now and forever.

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    • JohnAZ April 1, 2019 at 10:36 pm #

      Sounds like Buck county, PA

    • SoftStarLight April 2, 2019 at 12:57 am #

      Hmmm it sounds like a nice place. Where is this Saratoga Springs? Do you have to submit an application or can you just show up? I would prefer not to live among the heathen.

  41. wwg1wga April 1, 2019 at 10:27 pm #

    Sunlight is the greatest disinfectant.




  42. Pucker April 1, 2019 at 11:01 pm #

    Free Bill Cosby!

    “”I never filed a complaint, to be honest, because he was the vice president. I was a nobody,” Lappos said. “There’s absolutely a line of decency. There’s a line of respect. Crossing that line is not grandfatherly. It’s not cultural. It’s not affection. It’s sexism or misogyny.”
    A spokeswoman for Biden declined to respond to the allegations by Lappos and instead offered a statement that Biden issued Sunday about the Flores controversy.
    “In my many years on the campaign trail and in public life, I have offered countless handshakes, hugs, expressions of affection, support and comfort. And not once – never – did I believe I acted inappropriately,” Biden said. “If it is suggested I did so, I will listen respectfully. But it was never my intention. I may not recall these moments the same way, and I may be surprised at what I hear. But we have arrived at an important time when women feel they can and should relate their experiences, and men should pay attention. And I will.”

  43. Pucker April 1, 2019 at 11:11 pm #

    “Vice President Joe Biden is running for president and he’s bringing out the big guns as he announces Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby will be co-chairmen of his campaign. As you know, Biden has a history of touching women and young girls in really creepy ways, most recently by a woman named Lucy Flores who says he kissed her head and smelled her hair at a fundraiser. Which is weird.”


    • 100th Avatar April 1, 2019 at 11:51 pm #

      Joe Biden is the quintessential white prick.
      Pretending he isn’t
      Born from trash
      Pretending he isn’t
      From poor to
      Nouveau Riche
      Creepin’ on every
      Available b**ch
      The house ***ga
      Thinkin’ he’s fit for the house

    • Nightowl April 2, 2019 at 5:50 am #

      It is more than just creepy. Watch the videos with the kids. It’s straight up fondling in several cases. There is one where he clearly massages a young girl’s breast as she stands in front of his crotch for a photo.

  44. SoftStarLight April 2, 2019 at 12:45 am #

    Well you know, talking about Biblical floods and plagues can get you into trouble if you don’t think the right way. There were many devastating floods that struck Europe too during the 1300s as the world was plunged into the Little Ice Age. And then came famine and the Black Death. And now we have massive, historical rainfall and snowfall happening in many places. Like then maybe? The snow pack in the Sierra Nevada is way above average. The largest glacier in Greenland is growing again. Other glaciers around the world are growing (they are all supposed to be melting). And the ice in Antarctica is increasing. But you will be immediately dismissed if you suggest maybe another Little Ice Age is beginning. Its the same type of dismissiveness you get when you are called racist and xenophobic simply for fearing the potential plagues refugees and migrants are likely to bring with them.

    • BackRowHeckler April 2, 2019 at 3:16 am #

      ‘Refugees and Migrants’

      These locusts will devour the entire country and everybody in it, leaving just a dry, empty husk …


      • SoftStarLight April 2, 2019 at 9:17 am #

        That sounds like a prophecy Brh. A dark one too.

    • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 4:25 am #


      “But you will be immediately dismissed if you suggest maybe another Little Ice Age is beginning.”

      I keep giving you the link to this useful little site that can give you the basic facts you need and set you off on a search of the actual literature on any of the stories you find out there on the fairy-tale web. Do feel free to do a real, comprehensive search of the literature, especially before Exscotticus sends the climate scientists out to shovel shit like a textbook Maoist waving a little red book and chasing them into the countryside for re-education.


      “The answer is not only clear but it is definitive and based on the scientific literature. Globally glaciers are losing ice at an extensive rate (Figure 1). There are still situations in which glaciers gain or lose ice more than typical for one region or another but the long term trends are all the same, and about 90% of glaciers are shrinking worldwide (Figure 2). “

      But giving deniers information is pointless, while giving genuine sceptics information does have an actual purpose and adds to the intellectual wealth of nations. So I give you the link yet again knowing you wear your own disinformation like both a comfort blanket and a badge of pride.

      And will pass it on to your children. Thus are the beliefs of the fathers (and mothers) passed on to the sons and daughters. Same mechanism with militant Islam – exactly the same process – people afraid to search out the truth because confronting it is painful. I mean why would anyone want to believe that humanity is set to cause its own extermination and could have done something about it? It’s mentally less painful to believe that there’s nothing we could have done.

      But the inside of your head is your own, SSL, and no-one can take your disinformation away from you. Or from your boys. But reality doesn’t care – and it won’t change a thing that 50 years from now they’re still waiting for the ice that mommy promised while the air conditioner’s beating its little heart out.

      • SoftStarLight April 2, 2019 at 9:43 am #

        Alba there are some places I just wonder why you have to even go. Like saying I wear my own disinformation like a comfort blanket and badge of pride. And comparing passing on such beliefs to my kids as something akin to militant Islam. Really? Many scientists say that global warming the way it is being presented is a hoax. Science is not consensus. But believing the world was flat was for instance. The website you continue to link to is a consensus website. It’s aim is to discredit “deniers”. And your viewpoints on this issue are Establishment. Dissenting voices are intentionally censored and debate is discouraged from the very outset. Neither you or I know what will be in 50 years.

        And I am more than happy to cut carbon emissions and all. But it isn’t because I think the atmosphere is going to burn up and the world is going to become a fireball. I just think it makes sense for us to move away from fossil fuels where we can and decrease consumption and pollution.

        • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 10:30 am #


          Sceptics are sceptics but deniers discredit themselves. They don’t need a website to do it. The Skeptical Science website exists to respond to denier memes, which are circulated all over the more disingenuous corners of the internet, and which are generally a mixture of nonsense and cherry-picked data. For people who don’t read that much in the way of original papers, it’s helpful to have a source of information that uses those original papers so you don’t have to. But you still can if you want to disagree with anything.

          I would also recommend http://www.realclimate.org/
          It’s run by climate scientists and there is a comment section at the bottom of each article if you genuinely want to enter the debate and disagree with their conclusions.

          You do wear your denialism as a badge of pride. You’ve just declared yourself ‘anti-establishment’, which has been a badge-wearing statement since before I was born, let alone you.

          It’s not about ‘viewpoints’, it’s about evidence – this is how you show that your views are simply ‘establishment’ within your conservative circle.

          But I’m delighted that you think it makes sense for us to move away from fossil fuels where we can for the reasons you give. We don’t differ one iota there.

          • SoftStarLight April 2, 2019 at 11:08 am #

            Then we will make the most of things where we agree!! I will check the website out. I don’t mind reading things that don’t match up to my worldview. I am not afraid of other opinions. If we start burning up then I will just say to myself, “Jeeze, Alba was right all along and I was the fool”. And by the way, we always burn up here in Louisiana. In fact we have maybe just maybe one more month before we are at or above 90 degrees every day. If we have a normal summer that is.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 1:21 pm #


            We’re not going to ‘burn up’ in the timescale you seem to be imagining, although there will most likely be an increase in the frequency and severity of ‘events’ like wildfires and heatwaves (and both droughts and floods). This is a slow process, even though it seems to be marching faster than scientists initially projected (they are by nature conservative – the sensationalist stuff tends to come from non-specialist reporters). But it you put more energy into a system it’s going to be more volatile. That seems unarguable to me.

            That doesn’t mean the situation isn’t critical – and there are a couple of decades or so of warming already baked in because of the time lag between cause and effect when it comes to adding CO2 to the atmosphere.

            But I’ll leave you to your reading. And at the end of the day it doesn’t matter a whit what either of us thinks. Reality makes its own rules.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 1:28 pm #

            And none of it makes you a fool.

            A decade or more ago, my husband used to call climate scientists ‘arseholes’, because he didn’t like what they were saying. He didn’t like me talking about it either and could be quite nippy about it. He bought a book years ago that lots of people bought that was supposed to ‘prove’ that it was a hoax and a fantasy. He said nothing about it afterwards, so I presume it was as dire as I’d have expected, knowing who the authors were, and he could see that for himself.

            I have another one called ‘Merchants of Doubt: what Climate Deniers learned from Big Tobacco’, but I haven’t suggested he read it as he’s not a denier any more.

            Years later, with me dropping the subject altogether, he came to see for himself that they weren’t arseholes. Sometimes people just resist new knowledge that they don’t like and are more likely to come round when the evidence becomes overwhelming even for them.

        • JohnAZ April 2, 2019 at 10:58 am #

          SSL and GA

          Interesting reading your debate.

          Maybe you are both right.

          Western native America, culture has waxed and waned for millennia. At least three different cultures have inhabited Arizona over the past 3000 years. Why? Drought! Good times for awhile then retreat from the effects of drought.

          Right now the CC people are assigning drought as one of the signs of global warming. If so, it is periodic and independent of AGW over the centuries. Everyone is focused on AGW now because it is a power grab to run things the way they want.

          Climate cycles over many independent variables vary in periodicity times. We have been watching a warming now for about here decades. We are watching glaciers melt, ice sheets melt, arctic ice cover melt for about the same time frame. What if what SSL is reporting on is a reversal to a couple of decade trend. What if a fifty year cooling cycle is coming. What if the blooming of plant life, which is occurring, starts absorbing the excess CO2 and continues the cool down. What if Krakatoa blows its top again and cools things off. What if we do something with CO2 and it goes so low we end up in a frozen earth cycle. We are messing with things we should not be messing with, all in a desire for power.

          Any play for power, disguised as any benevolent issue, is still a play for power. What should be done now is a world wide surveillance of the carbon cycle and resultant side effects, unbiased, meaning machine monitoring. The greatest enemy of both sides of the argument is cherry picking data. The scientific community is dependent on the power folks for their funding, so corruption is going to happen.

          In the meantime, work should be done to figure out how to adapt to the world wide changes that may be coming. What will happen to the US if the Great Plains turns into a gigantic sand trap. What if the Ogallala aquifer finally runs dry. What happens when we put so much of the country under concrete and asphalt that we create a permanent heat island. What happens in response to innumerable inputs that affect climate and thus our political setup.

          I would say that the stasis we see today in DC is response to the fact they know there is zip we can do to offset what is coming. Mother Nature is about to overwhelm the puny efforts of Man to counter powerful climate influencers. We do not even know if with AGW we are slowing a descent into an ice age or aggravating a rise in temperature. We just do not know much at all.

          Man’s biggest job if global warming changes are coming is to avoid blowing himself to kingdom come is a fight for diminishing resources. If, for example, the US loses its agricultural edge by higher temps and lower humidities, some where else will benefit from warmer temps, say Canada or Siberia. How do we get people to migrate through current national boundaries to move to more favorable areas? Without killing each other? A daunting task for mankind in the future.

          • SoftStarLight April 2, 2019 at 11:13 am #

            Very good points John. We would do better as a society IMO to be ready for any possibility whether it be warming or cooling. Cooling will be just as bad, probably worse than warming, if it turns out to be a long term trend. Warming and cooling cycles are natural and don’t require any human influence to the extent we can change anything. Perhaps catastrophic deforestation and the paving over of the planet is worse than our emissions? We don’t know for sure. We probably need to decrease our footprint everywhere we go and just respect Nature in all things to the fullest extent possible.

          • Exscotticus April 2, 2019 at 12:46 pm #

            >>> How do we get people to migrate through current national boundaries to move to more favorable areas?

            The question is: how do we stop such migration! It wouldn’t be needed if cultures adapted to their environment and didn’t live on the edge.

            It doesn’t take climate change to grasp that all nations could benefit from reducing population stress on their environments.

            Forcing cultures to accept responsibility entails keeping them in situ. You don’t get to crap your own bed and then take over your neighbor’s.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 1:10 pm #


            “Everyone is focused on AGW now because it is a power grab to run things the way they want.”

            That’s a bit of a broad brush attack on…everyone. I have no wish for power and neither does anyone else I know. Business people, on the other hand, will make business out of any changes to anything – saying they have nefarious motives suggests I shouldn’t be able to buy paracetamol for my toothache just because a benefit to humanity came with a business opportunity. Of course it did – they all do. Thanks for the paracetamol, business persons.

            The scientific community is dependent on the power folks for their funding, so corruption is going to happen.


            Slurs are slurs, if presented without evidence. And we’re talking about the entire climate science fraternity here, not one biased paper you might have heard of.

            Of course other factors influence temperature and climate. Why do people talk as if scientists have somehow not thought of that? Climate models have to isolate all factors in order to be able to say anything about those factors, including AGW.

            And yes, if we have a major volcanic eruption, that will affect everything. But saying we should therefore do nothing is like saying just because I might get cancer one day it’s sensible to walk in front of buses.

            A ‘couple of decade trend’ isn’t a long-term trend. Scientists also know this. El Nino and La Nina events also affect the weather and are obviously taken into account in all models, yet people still say, ‘but what about El Nino?’ as if scientists were primary school children.

            “What if we do something with CO2 and it goes so low we end up in a frozen earth cycle.

            We haven’t even managed to lower our emissions so the idea that anything we’re currently going to do is massively reverse the situation to a dangerous degree is fanciful. Most scientists are against geo-engineering and don’t think it’s remotely the way to go. Nothing else that we do is going to have the effect you fear. It’s going to take thousand of years just to undo what we’ve done already.

            And any ice age is also thousands of years away, barring something fantastical happening. There may not even be any humans by then.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 1:12 pm #

            *is going to massively reverse…*

          • JohnAZ April 2, 2019 at 2:59 pm #


            AGW is definitely being used by the neo-liberal forces of the globe to do a big power grab. They have a picture in their mind what a non-fossil fuel world should look like. And by golly, that is the way it will be. Never mind the standard of living for every person on the globe will fall.

            Cherry picking data has been used by both sides to prove their points. Are we warmer today than 100 years ago, or 1000 years ago. No one really knows. There are sites on both sides debunking the other.

            Pollution is bad stuff, especially particulate from diesels. Fossil fuel reduction should be a prime directive aimed at cleaning the air. Like cars, diesels and coal burning should be taken to 0 particulate content by technical means.

            Time wise we are entering an ice age now. Indications in the Greenland cores show turnovers in a hundred or two years, not thousands of years.

            No matter what we do, we are not appreciably going to affect the CO2 levels. You are right, the effects of any effort will take a long time to have effect. And that is assuming that CO2 is a major cause of the warming. Contrarian data does exist.

            The main point of my post was we had better figure out a way to just get along as climate adjustment is done. Our history is not real positive with this.

            One reason I am not a doomsayer with fossil fuels is that it is a limited resource that is starting to run out. The problem is self limited. I grind my teeth at resource wasters as they are just moving the peak oil date forward with their wastage. Life prior to fossil fuel usage was a struggle.

      • Exscotticus April 2, 2019 at 11:13 am #

        >>> Do feel free to do a real, comprehensive search of the literature, especially before Exscotticus sends the climate scientists out to shovel shit like a textbook Maoist waving a little red book and chasing them into the countryside for re-education.

        LOL. You see, GA? That was funny. I have no problem with these kind of comments. But to imply that I take pleasure from the suffering of others is a bridge too far.

        Yes, SSL, do the research—particularly the claim by AOCrazy and others that we only have 12 years left! Gasp!

        It doesn’t take a scientist to recognize a scare tactic. Climate change is like the Left’s “WMDs in Iraq”. If we really had only 12 years left, then the Left would be doing two things: mitigating growth and encouraging nuclear power. Notice they’re doing neither. Apparently, they would rather end all humanity than place limits on human growth. They would rather call it quits than accept the risks associated with the cleanest power ever conceived by man. See the contradictions? Doesn’t make sense, does it?

        • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 3:56 pm #

          Twelve years left until what, Exscotticus? Not clarifying that is disingenuous, just as Janos was being below. I’ve explained below what I understand it to mean, although I admit to not having familiarised myself with Ms O-C’s policies. Our politicos are more than enough for anyone’s sanity to cope with at the moment. Twelve years? Howdy’a like to have 12 days? 🙂

          And since when were WMDs a ‘left’ issue? From what I recall it was a US and UK spooks issue taken up by Bush and Blair. Lots of people marched in the streets against it. Lots of them were ‘leftist’s. Over here, many more leftists than anyone else.

          My apologies for any suggestion that you actually enjoy seeing members of the ‘herd’ not being helped by their more fortunate livestock chums. Even Elysianfield thought your actual comment was a bit lacking in humanity, from what I understood.

          I personally think if we can’t try to do a bit to help our weaker neighbours there’s not much point to anything really. I’m not a ‘survival at all costs’ type. There has to be a point to it – humanity, rather than the law of the jungle.

          And that doesn’t mean I agree with Utopian notions of the US accommodating the entirety of suffering humanity. We’ve had that conversation before.

        • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 4:02 pm #

          And I can’t speak for your ‘left’ (except that I’m sure you get the point by now that they wouldn’t remotely qualify as ‘left’ in the UK – they’re just a little less right than the total wingnuts to us 🙂 ). Don’t be offended, Exscotticus, some ironic license there, but you get the picture.

          But in the UK the left are not in power, so they’re not likely to do anything for a while, not least because with Uncle Jeremy at the helm they’ll be in Her Maj’s Opposition for some time yet. And with the current crew being what they are, that’s really saying something.

          Unless something even more mental than the last few weeks happens in the next week. Nothing can be discounted.

          • Exscotticus April 2, 2019 at 4:42 pm #

            >>> And since when were WMDs a ‘left’ issue?

            I meant that climate change is the Left’s version of “WMD’s in Iraq”. You’ll search in vain for specifics.

            That’s why I rather like this new 12-year claim. It’s very specific. What is it? Let us be clear…

            Ocasio-Cortez: “The World Is Going To End In 12 Years If We Don’t Address Climate Change

            The AOC doomsday clock is ticking! But apparently even doomsday is not compelling enough for population control and nuclear power.

            >>> I personally think if we can’t try to do a bit to help our weaker neighbours there’s not much point to anything really

            I’m all for helping out my neighbor, too. But at my convenience, and not at the point of a gun. Also, my neighbor has to remain my neighbor; he can’t cross over the property line and come move in with me.

            Let us never forget that good fences make good neighbors, and there’s nothing wrong with mending walls.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 7:41 pm #

            “I’m all for helping out my neighbor, too. But at my convenience, and not at the point of a gun. Also, my neighbor has to remain my neighbor; he can’t cross over the property line and come move in with me.”

            I’m not sure how you leap to that kind of idea from the notion that responsible communities get their children vaccinated.

            As I said, I hadn’t familiarised myself with any of the detail of Ms OC’s policies or statements other than knowing that she is associated with a New Green Deal.

            I find her statement lacking in sense and proportion, and am not in the habit of coming out with statements like that myself, as I hope you would acknowledge. Although I do accept that there will, at some stage, be a point of no return in terms of our trajectory towards runaway climate change because of positive feedback loops like the methane situation (including ocean clathrates). Whether or not we will be ‘saved’ from that fire by the frying pan of fossil fuel depletion I don’t know. There’s still a lot of coal left, so I doubt it.

            I also think it’s fair to say that we only have a short time left in order to start slowing down our emissions of CO2 in order to limit the atmospheric temperature increase (from pre-industrial levels) to the 2 degrees which is generally accepted as the limit necessary to avoid the worst consequences of AGW and associated climate change. And I don’t disagree with your point that the population issue needs to be tackled. Where we do disagree is that I won’t use it as an excuse to ignore the consumption side of things, since CO2 emissions are a function of population and consumption.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 7:45 pm #

            I find the idea that climate change is a leftist issue strange, except in the historical sense of the left being more interested in the welfare of ordinary people.

            It was Margaret Thatcher (being a scientist by training and previous profession) who opened the Hadley Centre for Meteorological Research as a response to scientific evidence on CO2 emissions and global warming, and she was no leftist.

            Although I’ll grant you rightwingers tend to be less scientifically based in their beliefs and policies generally.

      • Nightowl April 5, 2019 at 6:30 am #

        Antarctica is gaining ice at present.

        While I take the view that we should reduce pollution out of common sense, it is a stretch to say that computer models can predict the future with regard to climate change.

        We do our part by using as little energy as possible, recycling, composting, growing our own veggies, and avoiding plastic packaging when possible.

        However, the real drivers of the pollution problem remain industry, air travel, etc. Things that no one is giving up, things that in many parts of the world are on an unstoppable growth course.

        Consider this the next time DiCaprio flies 8,000 miles on a private jet for a one-day trip to present a Climate Warrior award.

        To quote a neocon buffoon who got it right once, “We don’t know what we don’t know.”

  45. Mountain gal April 2, 2019 at 12:54 am #

    So Jim, where do you suggest is a good place to live now in the US? I’m going to be relocating(sold everything to travel and live overseas for a while) and need to figure a good place to live in the US. I’ve lived for decades in northern New England and am sick of the long winters, snow and ice. It needs to be reasonably affordable, have rural housing, enough natural rainfall to allow for growing gardens, fruit trees etc, be safe, not a hotbed of gangs, criminals etc.I’d like it to to not be as vulnerable as some areas are to the floods you write about, earthquakes, hurricanes, wildfires etc. I don’t want to deal with hordes of illegal immigrants.I also don’t want to be in the middle of race wars. And I’d like to find a place with a more Conservative or at least middle-of-the -road headset; so done with dealing with Progressives, sanctuary cities, gender fluidity obsessions etc. So where’s a gal to go?

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    • Ricechex April 2, 2019 at 1:38 am #

      Mountain Gal,
      There is no escape. Any places in the US as you describe have already been discovered and occupied. (Like decades ago) Any temperate climates have been found and overpopulated with big traffic problems.

      Idaho might be an option, but it is VERY cold in the winters and it is building up too. I saw a 60 minutes show on a big Muslim factory there too. Coeur D’alene has good medical facilities and seems manageable right now. Sandpoint, ID was a great place about 5 years ago, but I hear construction is happening at a lightning speed.

      If the borders open in 2020 the illegals (won’t be illegals then) will occupy the entire country. There is really no safe space.

      New Mexico can have pleasant weather but is filled with disenfranchised Indians and Mexicans and it is too close to the border. As noted in the comments, Colorado seems out. The midwest used to be a great place, but it is cold with tons of traffic and a depressed economy.

      Florida is old folks and will be submerged in the ocean in some time.
      Texas is a maybe, unless you are on the coast where the hurricanes destroying everything. Same with the Carolinas.

      Kentucky a possibility, but still very cold.

      There is also Montana and the Dakotas. But I think they are very very cold.

      West coast is definitely out. (CA, WA and OR)

      AZ is a possibility, however, the desert is not good for sustainability. It gets very hot and without AC done deal. What happens when the power goes out?

      • SoftStarLight April 2, 2019 at 2:03 am #

        I agree. There is no place to run and hide. I am sure you could but every locale has its pros and cons. Illegal aliens are everywhere and in every state at this point. With over one million illegals coming this year that we know of the demand for new construction is only going up. And the environmental destruction continues as more and more resources are needed for them.

      • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2019 at 12:55 pm #

        Eastern Oregon is very White (that’s what she wants but is too liberal and/or proud and/or ignorant to admit it) but quite cold and possibly too dry, but the mountains may be better.

    • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2019 at 12:52 pm #

      In other words, you want the old White America that your kind destroyed. Lol lady, lol.

    • seawolf77 April 2, 2019 at 5:03 pm #

      I have given some thought to this question myself and I say Seattle. It is expensive, but housing has finally stalled and prices have begun to come down. Also when you get out of the Bellvue, Seattle areas and out into the more rural it can be a lot more affordable. Will it be as cheap as Houston? No. But it can be done. I would say $250,000 or about double what you would pay in Houston for a decent house. It is temperate. It is beautiful, there is a lot to do, the economy is vibrant, it is liberal, mostly white.

  46. BackRowHeckler April 2, 2019 at 3:04 am #

    Looks like we’re trapped like rats.

    There’s no way out!

    • SoftStarLight April 2, 2019 at 9:47 am #

      I think this is true. Time to stand our ground!!!

      • cbeard April 2, 2019 at 2:13 pm #

        SSl, some here may denigrate this comment as there are a few deep south haters here. Stand your ground in Louisiana. I intend to do the same in the state of Georgia. I won’t run. Can’t afford to anyway.

    • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2019 at 12:58 pm #

      Yes, like the Fellowship of the Ring in the Mines of Moria. Thanks for remembering.

  47. BackRowHeckler April 2, 2019 at 3:13 am #

    Avenge Nipsey Hussle !!!

    • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2019 at 12:57 pm #

      Remember Nipsy Russell? Was Paul Lynde gay or what? They are dead now and Free of what tormented them….

  48. FincaInTheMountains April 2, 2019 at 4:16 am #

    Art and Life: On the Question of the Golden Age

    The Ramstein’s video “Deutschland” by eclipsing the Ukrainian elections once again showed that art is more important and more philosophical than history, because it speaks about the universal, and history about the particular.

    And in particular, it speaks about the Golden Age of human history, which we simply did not notice.

    I really liked ABBA back then, and continue to like it now!
    These were very talented guys, and from this performance I, having peered, simply shed a tear:

    It’s just amateur art in a country club. They do not know how to dance from the word at all, wearing clown costumes and a guitar bought at the flea market, there are no hairstyles and some unspeakable patches of hair on the heads, but most importantly – what a cute, simple, village faces!

    What a sincere happiness from the moment of Glory, how cool that we got on TV! Just Stalin’s / Roosevelt’s era splint in reality! A milkmaid and a shepherd! Two milkmaids and two shepherds! Watch and enjoy!


    And then look at their performance a few months after this minute of Glory and enjoy the work of the producer, who worked a little bit with these peasants! Heaven and Earth!


    And now look at amateur art again and draw conclusions about Eurovision in 1974 and now! Pay attention to the little tummy bulge of the blond and this is a flaw of figure, not a pregnancy. But she does not know how to hide it! Well, I say the milkmaids and shepherds at Eurovision won thanks to the talent, which is from the Lord God, and not from producers!

    • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 8:55 am #

      “Pay attention to the little tummy bulge of the blond and this is a flaw of figure, not a pregnancy. ”

      Really, are you sure? I was convinced she was about to drop triplets right there on stage. Are you for real? Or do you have some kind of weird first-world preference for stick insects?

      • FincaInTheMountains April 2, 2019 at 9:47 am #

        Are stick insects bought at a flea-market?

        • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 7:18 pm #

          In my experience, they’re generally brought home from primary school by your child who has kindly offered to adopt them on your behalf come the school holidays.

      • elysianfield April 2, 2019 at 11:30 am #

        ” Are you for real? Or do you have some kind of weird first-world preference for stick insects?”

        “Forget it Jake, it’s (the) Ukraine….”

  49. Today’s New York Times:

    “A shopping pledge with strings”

    So, dumb ass Trumph’s big trade deal… Sell America to the communist People’s republic of China….

    What a retarded idea…

    • SoftStarLight April 2, 2019 at 9:45 am #

      So I simply ask the question again. Are you actually a White Nationalist?

  50. Also Saudi Arabia’s oil books opened for the first time. $111 billion in annual profit.

    Nice haul. Good thing we’re besties in the joint enterprise to destroy the carbon balance of the atmosphere. Two death cults, Christianity and Islam, hand in hand.

    Money is the only thing that is real. Cash rules us all.

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    • SoftStarLight April 2, 2019 at 9:46 am #

      If money is all that is real then there is no such thing as real death cults. The pursuit of nothing but money obviously is what leads to death and the destruction of the carbon balance of the atmosphere (as if it ever stays in balance).

      • But…there is no such thing as real death cults…” She said as the goat’s neck was cut and the hot blood splashed across her belly.

        The hooded shamam read from the ancient scrolls, “Auuum, Shon-ree-kaaa….” And the penitents responded, beating their chests.

        She shivered, regretting taking this gig. With this pagan priest standing over her she’d wished she never answered the want ad for “altar girl”, but, she needed money for her rent and student loans.
        As she relaxed into mild hypothermia and listened to the chanting she heard the voice of her poor mother… “Money is the root of all evil…”

        Buck’s County never seemed so far away.

        • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 12:04 am #

          It sounds like a scary cautionary tale. Yeah, I guess altar girl may not be the best gig after all.

    • BackRowHeckler April 2, 2019 at 9:54 am #

      It all about the Dinars!

      Petroleum consumption still rising, up to about 102 million bpd now.

      And record amounts of coal being mined, too.

      Records are being set. Apparently the vaunted ‘Paris Accord’ got a lot of lip service by member nations, and still does, but in reality its bring used as TP (metaphorically speaking)

      Look it up in WWN, 25€ at a newsstand near you.


      • SoftStarLight April 2, 2019 at 10:06 am #

        Wow look at you :-). Gee, its a war between NYT and WWN!

        • BackRowHeckler April 2, 2019 at 10:26 am #

          Last nite on C2C, about 2:30 am, (subject, Climate Change) guy calls in from Virginia Beach, claims he’s been going to Virginia Beach since 1960, and the sea level looks the same now as it was 60 years ago. Apparently the guy was a moron who believed his own lying eyes. What gives, the caller wanted to know?

          As you know Im conducting my own little investigation into sea level rise here in New England, wholly unscientific and purely anectodal as it is. Didnt get to Newport RI as planned last weekend to look at Goat Island, decided to make Ham Shoot rounds in rural Ct instead. Maybe in a few weeks, when it warms up. After Newport: Block Island. There are descriptions of Block Island that go back to early 17th century, Will dig some up and conpare them to current conditions.


          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 10:54 am #



            So, a guy who goes to a beach every year for 60 years fails to notice the sea level is increasing by a few millimetres each time he goes back. Hold the front page 🙂 .

          • SoftStarLight April 2, 2019 at 11:02 am #

            Awesome Brh! I have been following your updates on the sea level there in New England and am very interested. Sure it is purely anecdotal. However, since the sea level rise is supposedly as bad as it is you should be seeing a difference. Just like we aren’t supposed to have cold weather and snow anymore. It got down to 37 last night here in South Louisiana and there was frost on the roof this morning. They said it was unusually cold for this time of year. I thought we were supposed to be broiling :-). And instead I am worried that my beautiful Amarillos in full bloom got burned by the frost. I think they will be ok though since it did not freeze!!!

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 11:26 am #


            Where to start… 🙂

            “Just like we aren’t supposed to have cold weather and snow anymore. ”

            Oh dear. Oh dear, dear, dear…

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 11:33 am #

            “However, since the sea level rise is supposedly as bad as it is…”

            And just how bad is that, SSL? I helped you out with the Smithsonian article so, c’mon…

            I’d worry about the situation closer to home, though, rather than brh’s neck of the woods.


            A football field’s worth of Louisiana disappearing every hour. Every HOUR!

            Some of it’s subsidence; some of it’s sea-level rise.

            Louisiana’s governor wants Trump to declare the situation a national emergency. Hmmm…

          • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2019 at 1:00 pm #

            No Alba, we’re been told we have only 12 more years again and again. We’re going to hold you to that. Goat Island should be gone. If it isn’t, y’all is lyin’.

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 2:21 pm #


            “No Alba, we’re been told we have only 12 more years again and again. We’re going to hold you to that. Goat Island should be gone. If it isn’t, y’all is lyin’.”

            Come one. You’re cleverer than that.

            The 12 years (which has nothing to do with me anyway – I’m not part of your y’all) refers to the time we have left in order to start making some headway, as far as I’m aware, and implementing plans that will go some way to limiting the observed rate of warming.

            People who claim there’s going to be so much methane escaping from the melting permafrost that we’re doomed from the first Tuesday after the notional 12 years are up are singularly unhelpful in getting people on board. Although the methane emissions do seem to be increasing more than predicted decades ago. Like I said, actual scientists tend to be conservative.

            Sorry, I don’t know where or what Goat Island is and I’ve looked up enough for today.

      • elysianfield April 2, 2019 at 11:33 am #

        ‘It all about the Dinars!”


    • Exscotticus April 2, 2019 at 12:50 pm #

      “Currency carry me everyone is held hostage…”

  51. BackRowHeckler April 2, 2019 at 10:10 am #

    Thank God!

    Suspect identified in Nipsey Hussle hit.


  52. SoftStarLight April 2, 2019 at 10:16 am #

    I am so sick of these people trying to get me to like this man. I don’t!!! He is a damn White man pretending to be something he isn’t and never will be. Don’t these supposed geniuses realize that authenticity is everything. It’s a redo of the whole Liz Warren being an Indian thing. White people who do this are so friggin embarrassing and disgusting in my opinion. You are who you are. Suck it up snowflake and learn to love it ;-). Aside from a few examples, what other race of people have so many of their own who want to be another race altogether. Clearly the constant indoctrination of the evils of Whiteness is working. Next thing you know Kirsten Gillibrand will try to convince us she is an African Pygmy. And every alphabet soup news outlet will discuss the beauty and nobility of her Pygmy heritage.


    • 100th Avatar April 2, 2019 at 11:37 am #

      They are inveterate racists.
      They can only accept the superficially multicultural.
      They can only tolerate those they recognize as being in on the minority cachet grab.
      The signaling.
      Yoga and Pier 1 Buddha decorations.

      Obama was a white kid. Living a life more akin to that of a black adoptee.
      No father present, natch, and raised by aspirational and educated white mother who sent him to all the right schools. Where he got in on the act. Where he became acceptable, and on of their own.
      He was black but not blaaaaack, I mean, you know..

      Are they pushing Maxine Waters in 2020?
      Nah, way too street, er, urban.. hmm… blaaack.
      How about the Castro bros?
      Nah, way too Tejano. They even look it. Too muck like the Salinas brothers from ole Mexico, am I right?

    • Exscotticus April 2, 2019 at 3:56 pm #

      >>> Clearly the constant indoctrination of the evils of Whiteness is working.

      Even the diets of whitesare under attack. Who knew that eating potato salad is racist and causes climate change?

      • BackRowHeckler April 2, 2019 at 5:32 pm #

        Dude, everything causes climate change, including breathing in and out, for which, incidentally, you should feel about.


  53. FincaInTheMountains April 2, 2019 at 11:18 am #


    Meeting the warm wishes of my ardent CFN admirers (such as Avatar, Ozone) I decided to finally start my own blog.


    Due to diversity of my interests for now this blog will be dedicated to other side of yours truly, namely to some physical-mathematical aspects of the theory of light.

    The matter of the fact that I long strove to do away with the Copenhagen interpretation of Quantum Mechanics with its Schrodinger’s Wave Function (not to speak of Shut Up and Calculate Method) and return to the Newton’s corpuscular theory of light, but using modern methods of computer analysis and alternative metrics.

    Obviously I needed a breakthrough in computer algorithms which would confirm some light properties using Newtonian model, such as refraction and/or interference, which Newton was unable to make due to limit of the technical abilities of his time (he didn’t have iPhone, lucky we!).

    And I am proud to announce that recently I made such a breakthrough!

    I was able to create a relatively simple computer model of large amounts of particles moving in certain metric, which do refract when passing through a boundary of areas of space with different metric properties.

    Unfortunately, in that model the well-known physical law of refraction turned out to be Hyperbolic (not regular sine known from trigonometry), but rather known from relativistic Lorentz-Einstein transformations.

    But I do not lose heart and hope to build a model where the rays of light will behave as they should from physical experiments.

    You are welcome to dig in, or to ask your friends with more knowledge on those matters to try to tear me into pieces.


    In the future when time will allow I will finally try to place on this new blog some annotations of the Theory of the World Colored Projects and Political History of Arts in a more easily readable and cross-referenced format.

    Thank you.

    • BackRowHeckler April 2, 2019 at 11:49 am #

      Finca, are those the blue prints for a new type of super weapon ?


  54. malthuss April 2, 2019 at 11:43 am #


    Six months into the investigation, the case had turned cold when one of the case detectives, Lt. John Russo, remembered calling the police on a black man who was roaming in the Howard Beach neighborhood three months prior to Karina Vetrano’s death, according to trial testimony.

    The man was later identified as Lewis.

    Lewis, then 20, agreed to allow police to swab him for DNA inside his East New York home as his mother stood nearby.

    He was taken into custody a week later on charges of murder and sexual abuse. He has been in jail since his arrest.

    Lewis, who didn’t appear to know Vetrano, allegedly told detectives he “just lost it” and strangled Vetrano after spotting her on the jogging path, according to a statement that prosecutors read aloud during his arraignment.

    Vetrano “didn’t do anything,” Lewis allegedly told police. “I was just mad at the time. I beat her to let my emotions out. I never really meant to hurt her. It just happened.”

    Lewis’ first trial, in November 2018, deadlocked a jury after 13 hours and prompted the case judge to declare a mistrial.

  55. malthuss April 2, 2019 at 11:44 am #

    Oh Boo Hoo Hoo

    One person is stabbed and 19 people are injured in a huge stampede at Nipsey Hussle’s memorial: Violence breaks out among the hundreds gathered for a vigil outside the store where he was gunned down

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    • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2019 at 1:03 pm #

      There is always violence at Black events, especially the ones dedicated to Peace. Peace among Blacks is a Joke cause, much like Global Warming.

      • BackRowHeckler April 2, 2019 at 2:54 pm #

        In Hartford, after somebody gets shot or stabbed, they have an anti violence rally, where invariably, 2 or 3 more people get shot or stabbed. Its the ‘cycle of violence’ which everybody knows is the fault of the NRA.

        The local TV news crews show up at these ‘rallies’; about three years ago somebody got shot right in front of the camera, dropped like a rock. They cut to commercial real quick.


        • Q. Shtik April 2, 2019 at 3:51 pm #

          I don’t want to be crass or anything but everything in this comment makes me LOL, including “cut to the commercial.”

      • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 11:03 am #

        Holy Guacamole! You mean at church every Sunday in black churches there’s violence. Must be in the basement. Or maybe the attic. Or maybe not fucking at all, only in your imagination.

    • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2019 at 1:08 pm #

      Even Honey Boo Boo is smarter than the average Black.

      • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 11:02 am #

        Smarter than the average bear too.

  56. BackRowHeckler April 2, 2019 at 11:58 am #

    meanwhile, in South Carolina, lovely coed Samantha Josephson stabbed to death after mistakenly climbing into the wrong car.

    Apparently, this simple mistake cost her her life. It was the wrong car alright., and the wrong driver.

    Kate Stienle, Bambi Larsen, Samantha Josephson, yes, the bodies are piling up coast to coast.


    • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2019 at 1:10 pm #

      They should have some kind of lit sign that can be put in the front window that says, “Uber” AND the job number so people can Know what car to get into.

      • malthuss April 2, 2019 at 8:36 pm #

        it was up to her to ask his name and check his license plate.

  57. K-Dog April 2, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

    For anybody who wants to know:

    Tripp is still around! I’ll be keeping Tripp in my soon to be changed list-o-links.

    • Q. Shtik April 2, 2019 at 12:43 pm #

      Is he still publishing his small garden blog?

      Whenever I think of Tripp I am reminded of when he moved back east to Georgia to some god-awful ghetto town. He took one of his young kids for a walk in the neighborhood and a black girl/woman hoisted her dress, squatted a little and took a dump on the sidewalk. He said that was the moment he decided he had to move.

      • Q. Shtik April 2, 2019 at 12:46 pm #

        Sorry, just noticed that “Tripp is still around” is a link.

      • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2019 at 1:06 pm #

        Yes, many Whites have to live with Blacks in order to awaken. To his credit, he admitted that he had been wrong and I was right. When will you admit likewise? To your credit, you didn’t have to live with them – you just did a bit of research apparently, after years of slandering me. No matter – each will come in their own way. What matters is that they come.

        • Q. Shtik April 2, 2019 at 2:27 pm #

          slander schmander

    • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 12:48 pm #

      Interesting – thanks, K-Dog.

      I picked up on this, among other sensible points:

      “Every little change you make is worthwhile. Don’t ever let yourself be derailed by cynical ass-hats trying to cut you down so they can feel taller. They speak only from a position of cowardice and weakness of character. They don’t have the cajones to do even what you’re doing, so their reaction is to make it seem like you’re not doing anything of consequence either.”

      Glad someone agrees with me anyway.

      • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 12:49 pm #

        Or as the conservative Edmund Burke put it ‘No-one is more mistaken than he who does nothing because he can only do a little’

        • K-Dog April 2, 2019 at 1:02 pm #

          I fall into that trap all the time.

      • K-Dog April 2, 2019 at 1:07 pm #

        When I first read it I wondered if his experience here had any influence in his observations. Then I stopped wondering “ cynical ass-hats trying to cut you down so they can feel taller“.

        This be the place. And he chose to leave.

  58. FincaInTheMountains April 2, 2019 at 12:53 pm #

    Finca, are those the blue prints for a new type of super weapon? == brh

    In continuation of the previous post: ABBA, Differential games and Strategic Defense Initiative

    For me, ABBA’s Eurovision winning are related to the Ronald Reagan Star Wars program, which played an important role in the collapse of the USSR.

    I then studied in the 9th grade, and twice a week I went to the university to a mathematical school, where I already studied differential equations and in my opinion I had already thought of the idea that I had been studying all my life.

    This idea was connected with nonlinear equations and processes in physics, and by the will of fate in the technical translation class I got an article about the space shuttle project, which is directly related to nonlinear processes.

    The thing is that the mathematical idea I am talking about led to the conclusion that the shuttles would not fly RELIABLY AT ALL, and I came to it, having completed the translation of the above-mentioned article on the space shuttle.

    I finished the article, sat and thought, and turning on Speedola (Radio), caught the BBC, who was leading the program from Brighton about the ABBA performance, which brought them victory at the 1974 Eurovision Song Contest.

    I sit listening to this wonderful music, and right in front of my eyes is a picture of an exploding Shuttle.

    ABBA Waterloo Eurovision 1974

    Space Shuttle Columbia tragedy

    ABBA | Thank you for the music

  59. mow April 2, 2019 at 1:12 pm #

    This will go down in history as peak rodent .

  60. volodya April 2, 2019 at 1:22 pm #

    JHK mentions plagues of the Middle Ages. Plagues have plagued us for a long time, there was the plague of Justinian in the sixth century which then came and went for centuries. And there were recurrent plagues in ancient times which scythed down tens of millions inside the Roman Empire and probably all over Eurasia.

    Y Pestis gets regularly blamed. No doubt it was one of the microbes given that its DNA has been found in mass graves of people who died during one or another of the outbreaks. So one hazard, as JHK sez, is if there’s a flourishing of rats and other rodents that carry the disease.

    But let’s not discount other sources, for example, smallpox was an ancient killer that did away with millions, and hemorrhagic fevers too way back when. So gotta be careful of shit-disturbing natural habitats where there’s reservoirs of lethal, easily transmissible maladies like ebola.

    And who can forget poultry farms or pig farms or chickens in alleyways or backyards.

    The point is this, you can maybe control what goes on in your own country, you know, like your own backyard, or in domestic farms full of tainted wheat and soybean, or pig and chicken farms. Or in tent-cities in San Fran or LA if politicians can give the LGBTQ-sanctuary city posturing a rest and devote a few minutes to public health problems.

    But you cannot tell other countries what to do, like China or Vietnam or India or Brazil or Mexico. They won’t listen.

    This is the point of international borders, to blunt the spread of contagion be it financial or economic or biological. Are borders leaky? Sure, they can be, given the ubiquity of jet travel and especially the imperative of corporate profits.

    But you can shut airports down and ports too and border crossings. You can if you try, you can if you want to, if you’re serious about saving the lives of your own countrymen.

    But, given the bought-and-paid-for shits at the tip of the pyramid, whose every priority has nothing to do with the national interest and general welfare, don’t expect anything much from them. They’ll think of every excuse under the sun to FIRST make sure that nothing impedes the bottom lines of their paymasters even if it kills the people they’re mandated to serve, ie you and me.

    Just watch, they’ll use words like “contained”, they’ll trot out guys to explain that there’s nothing to be afraid of, so go shopping, that there’s no scientific evidence that supports the notion that this bug, whatever it is, whose nature is as yet unknown, is easily transmissible, or lethal, maybe outside those with compromised immune systems, or the elderly, or the sick, or the young. In short, they’ll underplay the risks, they’ll act all imposing and confident and superior, and they’ll overplay what they actually know, and they’ll do it all to avoid a “panic”. But their real agenda is their corporate paymasters.

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    • montsegur April 2, 2019 at 1:52 pm #

      and they’ll do it all to avoid a “panic”

      Oh yeah. That “priority” will be used to justify all kinds of malfeasance.

      Not that panic is anything to underestimate. But its effects will be far, far worse in groups that have utterly lost confidence in “the authorities”.

      In the wake of the outbreaks will be the return of the early Middle Ages.

      Volodya, I hope I’m gone by then.


    • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 2:11 pm #

      “So gotta be careful of shit-disturbing natural habitats where there’s reservoirs of lethal, easily transmissible maladies like ebola.”

      The excavations for the massive Crossrail project in London have uncovered some delightful plague pits full of dead bodies. It’s contributed to historical knowledge but I haven’t looked at it closely enough to examine the concept of live plague bacteria! I presume they know what they’re doing or there’s nothing live.

      • Elrond Hubbard April 2, 2019 at 2:17 pm #

        Plague pits? Two cheers for mass transit, then. Hip hip…

        • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 3:39 pm #


          Seems I have unwittingly exaggerated – one plague pit.

          ‘Hip hip’ is just begging for a pun, but I…won’t 🙂 ,

          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 3:39 pm #

            Or maybe you already did…

          • BackRowHeckler April 2, 2019 at 5:42 pm #

            That’s the plague Samuel Peyps mentions in his famous diary.

            London also burned down that same year I believe, 1665, burned to the ground.

            1665 wasn’t a good year in England, the former Christian Kingdom, now part of Caliphate


          • GreenAlba April 2, 2019 at 7:12 pm #

            *Samuel Pepys*

            Muslims are 5% of the population, brh, as I’ve pointed out before, but thank you again for your concern. Christians are 59% and those of no religion 25%, for comparison.

            The Great Fire was September 1666, so fairly close.

  61. messianicdruid April 2, 2019 at 4:33 pm #

    Biblical Anxieties are not new.

    “This is a study of the first five centuries of the Church insofar as its teachings on Universal Reconciliation is concerned. It shows how U. R. was the majority view until the jealousy of an unscrupulous bishop in the year 400 A.D. put the Church down the path toward making it an official “heresy”, causing many to falter.


  62. FincaInTheMountains April 2, 2019 at 5:23 pm #

    But, given the bought-and-paid-for shits at the tip of the pyramid, whose every priority has nothing to do with the national interest and general welfare, don’t expect anything much from them. == Volodya

    Cancer is called a malignant tumor, because it doesn’t give a damn that its activity against the organism, on which it parasitizes and part of which it pretends to be, will automatically lead to the death of itself.

    It attacks any creative processes in the body that can lead to the restoration of immunity.

  63. Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2019 at 6:32 pm #

    JS: Greg Johnson of Counter Currents on Andrew Yang, White Nationalism, and UBI. America owes us and we intend to collect. You can either pay us now or pay us later – with mucho grande interest. A thousand a month is the Dane Geld, at least for starters.

    White Nationalists need to understand exactly why I think Andrew Yang is important. As far as I am concerned, nothing essential depends on whether he is sincere about his proposals, gets the Democratic nomination, wins the presidency, or can implement his policies—even though I would like all those things to be true. If your first instinct is to splutter out any of those objections, you don’t understand what I am doing here and why such considerations are irrelevant.

    I can’t control any of those factors, and neither can any other White Nationalist. What we can do is use Yang as an occasion to inject ideas that are important to White Nationalists into broader popular discussions, which is what I am doing here. As always, the key is to use politicians, not let politicians use us.

    1. What are your general thoughts about the Trump administration?

    White Nationalists supported Trump because he supported some policies that we also favor, principally immigration restrictions (including the border wall and the Muslim ban), protectionism, and an America first foreign policy. We think these policies are objectively good for the white majority.

    I have no doubt that Trump was sincere about these policies when he announced them. He could have won the Republican nomination and the presidency without them. He chose to fight a two-front war against the Democrats and his own party because he thought these issues were important.

    But once in the White House, Trump lacked the skills and—let’s be frank—the character and the moral seriousness to keep his promises. The cucking started hot and heavy from the very beginning of his administration. I wrote my “God Emperor No More” essay on April 8, 2017 after the Syria strike.

    Trump spent his first two years giving Jews and Republicans whatever they wanted, without first getting what he wanted from them. I didn’t need to read a book on The Art of the Deal to see how stupid that was.

    I hoped that the midterm elections were a near-death experience that might have got Trump back on track. But no. We’re still waiting for that executive order on birthright citizenship.

    The last straw for most White Nationalists came in the 2019 State of the Union address, when the boomer-con in Trump came out with an ad lib on increasing immigration, as long as it is legal. Then he doubled down on it. “Legal” immigration is a coward’s and a cuck’s—that is to say, a Republican’s—way of talking about immigration, because it is a euphemism for the real problem: non-white immigration.

    We need immigration restrictions because most immigrants, legal and illegal, are not white, and as their numbers grow, America will increasingly resemble the Third World countries from which they come. Trump actually referred to these countries as “shitholes.”

    But now he is claiming that “our corporations” need more immigrants from “shithole” countries because “it’s good for the economy.” The populists who put Trump in office don’t think the profits of corporations are a good reason to destroy the ethnic composition and harmony of the nation. This is standard Republican talk. As soon as a lot of White Nationalists heard that, they were simply through.

    It is not so much that White Nationalists are off the Trump train. The trouble is that Trump is off the Trump train. We didn’t change. He did.

    2. Do you feel that Trump has helped to make White Nationalist thought more mainstream?

    Trump made the discussion of some of our issues more mainstream, and indirectly he opened the way to more mainstream discussion of our more fundamental ideas, if only because the Left wanted to stigmatize Trump by trotting out some of his more extreme supporters.

    Even though Trump has been a disappointment as a President, he made important—and permanent—metapolitical gains.

    First of all, he broke the Republican gentlemen’s agreement to never broach populist measures like immigration restriction and protectionism.

    Second, Trump helped reorient political debate in America away from the false and superficial opposition between Republicans and Democrats to the deeper issues of nationalism and populism versus globalism and elitism. The American people want a socially conservative interventionist state that protects the working and middle classes from globalist oligarchs. Trump offered that synthesis.

    The other parties are united by their refusal to give the people what they want. Republicans pay lip service to conservative values. Democrats pay lip service to using the state to defend the people from elites, as well as to fewer wars. But in reality, both parties only deliver what the current oligarchy wants: global capitalism and foreign adventurism combined with ultra-Leftist values. In the end, Trump gave the oligarchs what they want, too. But there will be a new champion of National Populist values, because that is what the people want, they are increasingly aware of it, and they are increasingly convinced that they will only get it by sweeping away the current political establishment.

    Third, Trump triggered the Left to drop the mask of sanity. I don’t think the days of civility will ever return. White Americans are increasingly aware that the Left doesn’t simply hate Trump. The Left hates them and their values and wishes to replace them with non-whites. Democracy involves different groups in society trading power. That is really possible only if the different groups regard their rivals as part of the same overall people. White Americans are increasingly aware that the Left is not “their people.” It is a coalition of non-whites and alienated, non-typical whites, united by hatred of the white majority. There will come a time—perhaps in 2020, perhaps in 2024—when white Americans will not cede power to the Left, no matter what the outcome of the election. That means that American democracy is broken. The Democrats broke it. But Trump was the trigger.

    3. Do those in the White Nationalist and far-Right movement feel that President Trump supports them, after recent comments claiming that the movement is small?

    No serious White Nationalist was under the illusion that Trump supported us. He used to support ideas that we supported. But those ideas stopped far short of White Nationalism.

    As for his comment that our movement is small and full of problems, that is indeed true. We have a lot of problematic people because American civilization is collapsing, and white men are the primary victims. We have lots of people who are alienated and unemployed. We have lots of people from broken homes, fractured by the drugs, alcohol, and drama of selfish and degenerate parents. We have lots of people with drug and alcohol problems and personality disorders of their own. We have lots of people who are willing to lash out violently against the system that has betrayed them.

    We had rather hoped that President Trump might help these problem people, by tackling globalization, immigration, the opioid crisis, and other maladies afflicting white America. But he’s turned his back on us.

    However, as long as white dispossession continues—as long as whites see their communities declining because of diversity and their living standards destroyed by globalization and immigration, all to a din of anti-white hate coming from the mainstream media and academia—our numbers will only grow. White dispossession due to immigration and globalization is the primary force driving the rise of National Populism in every white country. White Nationalists are not causing this wave. But we are going to surf it to power and influence.

    The closer an election is, the more important small groups of people become—especially highly energetic, motivated, and creative groups. Our movement was even smaller in 2016, when we were Trump’s most ardent supporters and the scourge of the cuckservatives. But we didn’t just post memes and arguments. We also voted, encouraged other people to vote, and worked to counter voter fraud. Trump won by a razor-thin margin: 107,000 votes in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. He knows very well how important our efforts were in the last forty-eight hours of the campaign to flip those states. He won’t win again without us.

    4. What are your thoughts on candidate Andrew Yang, and has there been a general shift from those in the movement beginning to support him for President? If so, when did people first begin to support him, and how often do you encounter mentions of Yang online?

    Andrew Yang seems like an intelligent and sincere guy. He is not white, but he is the only Democrat who opposes anti-white identity politics. He is also the only Democrat who has talked about the problems afflicting white America. I will vote for him in the Democratic primary, and I will vote for him as President if he goes up against Trump.

    Yang appeared right around the time Trump announced his final betrayal on immigration. Many White Nationalists immediately shifted their support to him. Yang memes became omnipresent overnight. Generally speaking, those White Nationalists who fully embrace National Populism immediately saw Yang’s appeal. Those who still retain residual elements of mainstream conservatism—especially the ideology of “free market”’ economics—are skeptical of Yang. But they will come around in the end.

    5. What are your thoughts on Yang’s Universal Basic Income proposal?

    I have been an advocate of Universal Basic Income (UBI), and more broadly Social Credit economics, since 2011. See my essay “Money for Nothing.” I have also been an advocate of debt repudiation. See “Thoughts on Debt Repudiation.”

    A Universal Basic Income is an excellent idea for several reasons.

    First, it is a way of creating money and putting it in the hands of consumers that bypasses two vast and parasitic categories of middlemen: banks, which charge interest, and social welfare bureaucracies.

    Second, it is a way of dealing with the consequences of automation. When machines put people out of work, they can’t be allowed to starve. Besides, somebody has to buy and use the products of automation. We can automate production, but not consumption. The whole point of the economy, after all, is to provide goods and services for people.

    Third, it would be good for the arts and culture. It would free people from basic material necessity to pursue educational and creative activities.

    The knee-jerk reaction of those schooled in the ideological pseudo-science of “free market” economics, namely that a UBI would cause “inflation” is highly dubious. (See my essay “The Austrian Economic Apocalypse?“)

    To make a UBI work, however, we would have to make some important changes in our present society.

    First, the best way to fund a UBI is not to raise the money by taxes or borrowing, but for the state simply to create money out of nothing. We need to move to a pure fiat currency that is entirely decommoditized, i.e., a currency no longer subject to interest, inflation, or deflation—perhaps even a currency that cannot be saved.

    Second, the UBI should not just be a safety net for people put out of work by mechanization. The overriding goal of public policy should be to promote scientific and technological advancement to put us all out of work. Our aim should be the Star Trek economy, in which material scarcity has been abolished by technology. See my essay “Technological Utopianism and Ethnic Nationalism.”

    Third, creating a UBI would necessitate limits to immigration, both legal and illegal. We cannot give a UBI to the entire planet. Our country is already being flooded by people looking for free stuff.

    Fourth, a society with a UBI will have to create conditions in which leisure promotes self-cultivation, not self-destruction. It would have to address the problem of highly addictive and destructive habits—not just alcohol and drugs, but also pornography and videogaming—otherwise a UBI will simply enable large numbers of people to waste their lives. We will also have to give people more positive things to do with their leisure by improving education, giving subsidies to edifying forms of high culture, and encouraging public spiritedness over private hedonism.

    6. Are White Nationalists legitimately supporting Yang, or is this just rhetoric online on sites like Jab and 4chan?

    I think that quite a few White Nationalists sincerely support Yang because he has better policies than anyone else in the race. Others support him just as a protest, because they are heartily sick of Trump. If America is going to hell, they figure, why not America going to hell plus a thousand dollars a month? Others are just enjoying the Yang memes and the new sense of excitement, purpose, and unity Yang has brought us.

    7. For those who do support Yang, how do they respond to his statements that he rejects support from White Nationalists?

    Of course he rejects our support. Yang is probably sincerely anti-racist, while we would prefer to live in a society in which there are no Andrew Yangs at all. But generally speaking, White Nationalists find Asians to be the most agreeable non-white group in our society. This is a movement full of anime fanatics, with a fringe of rice burners. Many of them would welcome our new Asian overlord.

    Beyond that, we are genuinely pragmatic. We supported Trump despite his obvious faults, because he coincided with our interests. Now that Yang looks like he will advance our interests, we’re Democrats. Now the Democrats really are “the real racists.”

    Yang might not like us. But here’s the thing. He will still cash our checks, and he can’t prevent us from arguing for the merits of his proposals, voting for him, and encouraging others to vote for him. Whether he likes it or not, White Nationalists might put him in the White House.

    8. Are those in the White Nationalist and far-Right movement feeling more emboldened than ever before?

    In a word, yes.

    Long-term demographic trends are ominous. As I argue in The White Nationalist Manifesto, if we do nothing—if we do not implement White Nationalist policies—the white race will go extinct. That concentrates the mind wonderfully. That imparts urgency and moral seriousness to our cause. But white extinction is a couple centuries away. So we also have some time to maneuver and turn things around.

    Moreover, medium-term demographic and political trends are working in our favor. As Roger Eatwell and Matthew Goodwin argue in National Populism: The Revolt Against Liberal Democracy, the rise of National Populism is being fueled by four deep-seated trends that are not going to abate any time soon: distrust of the establishment, destruction of communities by immigration, the decline of white working class and middle-class living standards due to globalization, and the breakdown of people’s alignments with existing political parties.

    Eatwell and Goodwin actually argue that the only way we will get beyond National Populism is if established parties adopt National Populist policies. Which means that the days of globalist hegemony are over, and the future belongs to competing forms of National Populism. That is an environment in which White Nationalists will flourish.

    The primary cause of rising white racial consciousness is not White Nationalists like me. Instead, people are waking up in response to objective events—because diversity causes conflict and globalization causes deprivation. Once people wake up, White Nationalists try to deepen their understanding of why these processes are taking place and offer workable political alternatives. But even if we were completely censored and deplatformed, racial polarization and social breakdown will continue to rise until we abandon multiculturalism and globalization and adopt National Populist ideas.

    White Nationalists win every honest debate, because truth is on our side. Censorship and deplatforming won’t stop us, because to do that, you’d have to shut down the Internet, and the global economy depends upon it. Immigration and globalization are pushing more people in our direction all the time, and the establishment keeps doubling down on the same failed policies. And now, with the rise of Andrew Yang, American White Nationalists have a new cause around which to unite our warring tribes. White Nationalists have good reason to feel more emboldened than ever.

    • Tate April 2, 2019 at 6:53 pm #

      UBI is a goofy idea.

      • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2019 at 7:09 pm #

        In other words, until it’s absolutely necessary to change it’s absolutely necessary NOT to change. This is a standard item of ordinary human psychology. And that’s why the crisis is likely to be fully upon us before People realize it’s real. Putting tens of millions of people out on the streets is very, very practical right? Or at least real – unlike this moonshine solution to an imaginary problem.

        Go to the Supermarket and observe how many fewer people work there than used to work there. Read about how Amazon is working to implement full automation, etc. On this blog, only E and I are willing to think thru the implications of automation. The rest of you are clinging to a past that is almost dead. At least backseat drivers try to be helpful. Your contribution is yelling, Drive off the road, asshole.

        • malthuss April 2, 2019 at 8:34 pm #

          E and I?
          what about me?

        • Tate April 2, 2019 at 8:41 pm #

          It’s right up there with minting the ‘trillion dollar coin’ to pay off the national debt.

          • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2019 at 8:56 pm #

            Automation changes everything except the way people think. You are suffering from future shock. You accept the good things from Technology and then pretend that all the bad aspects – like mass unemployment – as just bugs not features or worse, the fault of the people themselves.

            Just write the Bankers a check for the amount they are owed – let them find someone to cash it. Hint: Money is created out of nothing by these very same Bankers. Turn about is fair play. You’d actually give them more real resources, labor, and capital? Shame on you.

          • Tate April 2, 2019 at 9:12 pm #

            The people are not to blame. The central banks & politicians are to blame for promoting a false prosperity these last forty years creating artificial demand where none was called for to enrich the top parasites.

            Let’s break up the big banks & media companies for a start. I have no idea what you’re talking about in your second paragraph.

            We should give everyone a UBI? Even people who don’t need it? See anything wrong with that?

          • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 11:01 am #

            Read “The Creature form Jeckyll Island” or Eustace Mullins work.

    • Q. Shtik April 2, 2019 at 9:23 pm #

      What are your thoughts on Yang’s Universal Basic Income proposal? – Janos


      We’ll all be paying for it out the Ying Yang.

  64. Tate April 2, 2019 at 6:44 pm #

    European Parliament
    United in diversity
    pursuant to Rule 128(5) of the Rules of Procedure
    on Fundamental Rights of People of African Descent in Europe (2018/2899(RSP))
    Claude Moraes
    on behalf of the Committee on Civil Liberties, Justice and Home Affairs

    The European Parliament,

    –  having regard to the Treaty on European Union (TEU), and in particular the preamble, second indent, fourth to seventh indents, and Article 2, the second subparagraph of Article 3(3) and Article 6 thereof, ?

    –  having regard to Article 10 and Article 19 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union, ?

    –  having regard to the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union of 7 December 2000, ?

    –  having regard to Council Directive 2000/43/EC of 29 June 2000 implementing the principle of equal treatment between persons irrespective of racial or ethnic origin, ?

    –  having regard to Council Directive 2000/78/EC of 27 November 2000 establishing a general framework for equal treatment in employment and occupation2, ?

    –  having regard to Council Framework Decision 2008/913/JHA of 28 November 2008 on combating certain forms and expressions of racism and xenophobia by means of criminal law3, ?

    –  having regard to Directive 2012/29/EU of the European Parliament and of the Council of 25 October 2012 establishing minimum standards on the rights, support and protection of victims of crime, and replacing Council Framework Decision 2001/220/JHA4, ?
    –  having regard to the second European Union Minorities and Discrimination Survey (EU-MIDIS II) published in December 2017 by the European Union Agency for Fundamental Rights (FRA) and FRA’s report on experiences of racial discrimination and racist violence among People of African Descent in the EU; ?

    –  having regard to its resolution of 1 March 2018 on the situation of fundamental rights in the European Union in 20165 ?

    –  having regard to the establishment in June 2016 of the EU High Level Group on combating racism, xenophobia and other forms of intolerance, ?

    –  having regard to the Code of Conduct on countering illegal hate speech online agreed on 31 May 2016 between the Commission and leading IT companies as well as with other platforms and social media companies, ?

    –  having regard to UN Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination General Recommendation No. 34 of 3 October 2011 on Racial Discrimination against People of African Descent, ?

    –  having regard to UN General Assembly Resolution 68/237 of 7 February 2014 proclaiming 2015-2024 the International Decade for People of African Descent, ?

    –  having regard to UN General Assembly Resolution 69/16 of 18 November 2014 containing the programme of activities for the implementation of the Decade for People of African Descent, ?

    –  having regard to the Durban Declaration and Programme of Action from the World Conference on Racism in 2001, recognising centuries-long racism, discrimination and injustices faced by People of African Descent, ?

    –  having regard to European Commission against Racism and Intolerance (ECRI) general policy recommendations; ?

    –  having regard to Recommendation (Rec(2001)10) of the Council of Europe’s Committee of Ministers on the European Code of Police Ethics1 ?

    –  having regard to the Council of Europe High Commissioner for Human Rights’ Human Rights Comment ‘Afrophobia: Europe should confront this legacy of colonialism and the slave trade’ ?

    –  having regard to Protocol No. 12 to the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms on non-discrimination, ?

    –  having regard to Rule 123(2) of its Rules of Procedure. ?

    Whereas the term “People of African Descent” may also be used with ‘‘Afro European’’, ‘‘African European’’, or ‘‘Black European’’, “Afro-Caribbean” or “Black- Caribbean”, and refers to people of African ancestry or descent born in, citizens of, or living in Europe; ?

    Whereas the terms “Afrophobia”, “Afri-phobia” and “anti-black racism” refer to a specific form of racism, including any act of violence or discrimination, fuelled by historical abuses and negative stereotyping, and leading to the exclusion and dehumanisation of People of African descent. This correlates to historically repressive structures of colonialism and the transatlantic slave trade, as recognised by the Council of Europe Commissioner for Human Rights; ?

    Whereas there are estimated 15 million People of African Descent living in Europe, although equality data collection in EU Member States is not systematic, not based on self-identification and often omits descendants of migrants or “third generation migrants” and beyond;

    Whereas the EU Agency for Fundamental Rights (FRA) has documented that minorities in Europe with “Sub-Saharan African” backgrounds are particularly susceptible to racism and discrimination in all areas of life2;

    Whereas according to the recent Second European Union Minorities and Discrimination Survey conducted by the EU Agency for Fundamental Rights (FRA)3, young respondents of African descent, aged 16-24 years, experienced higher rates of hate- motivated harassment during the 12 months before the survey (32%) than older respondents and Cyber-harassment is highest towards young respondents and decreases with age;

    Whereas histories of injustices against Africans and People of African Descent – including enslavement, forced labour, racial apartheid, massacre, and genocides in the context of European colonialism and the transatlantic slave trade – remain largely unrecognised and unaccounted for at an institutional level in EU Member States;

    Whereas the persistence of discriminatory stereotypes in some traditions across Europe, including the use of black-facing, perpetuates deeply rooted stereotypes about People of African Descent, which can exacerbate discrimination;

    Whereas the important work of national equality bodies and Equinet, the European Network of Equality Bodies, should be welcomed and supported;

    Whereas the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights Annual Hate Crimes report4 has found that People of African Descent are often targets of racist violence, yet in many countries legal assistance and financial support for victims while recovering from violent attacks is lacking;

    Whereas the prime responsibility for the rule of law and fundamental rights of the citizens lies with governments, and therefore the primary responsibility for monitoring and preventing violence, including Afrophobic violence, and prosecuting the perpetrators;

    Whereas there is limited data on racial discrimination in the education system, however evidence suggests that children of African descent in EU Member States receive lower grades than their White peers in schools and early school leaving is markedly higher for children of African descent;

    Whereas adults and children of African Descent are increasingly vulnerable in police custody, with numerous incidents of violence and deaths in custody, and with the routine use of racial profiling, discriminatory stop and search, and surveillance, in the context of abuse of power in law enforcement, crime prevention, counter-terrorism measures, or immigration control;

    Whereas legal remedies for discrimination exist, strong and specific policies are needed to address structural racism experienced by People of African Descent in Europe, including in employment, education, health, criminal justice, political participation and in the impact of migration and asylum policies and practices;?

    Whereas people of African descent in Europe experience discrimination in the housing market and experience a spatial segregation in low-income areas with poor quality and cramped housing; ?

    Whereas, People of African Descent have contributed significantly in building European society throughout History, large numbers face discrimination in the labour market; ?

    Whereas People of African Descent are disproportionally represented amongst the lower income strata of the European population; ?

    Whereas People of African Descent are overwhelmingly underrepresented in political and law-making institutions, at both European, national and local levels in the European Union; ?

    Whereas politicians of African Descent are still facing ignominious attacks in public sphere at both national and European levels; ?

    Whereas racism and discrimination experienced by People of African Descent is structural and often intersects with other forms of discrimination and oppression on the basis of sex, race, colour, ethnic or social origin, genetic features, language, religion or belief, political or any other opinion, membership of a national minority, property, birth, disability, age or sexual orientation; ?

    Whereas a rise in Afrophobia attacks in Europe are recently directly targeted against third-country nationals, and especially refugees and migrants; ?

    1. Calls on Member States and EU institutions to recognise that People of African Descent are particularly subjected to racism, discrimination, xenophobia, and generally the unequal enjoyment of human and fundamental rights, amounting to structural racism; and are entitled to protection from these inequities as individuals and as a group, including positive measures for the promotion, full and equal enjoyment of their rights; ?

    2. Considers that active and meaningful social, economic, political and cultural ?participation by People of African Descent is key for tackling the phenomenon of Afrophobia and ensuring their inclusion in Europe;

    3. Calls on the European Commission to develop an EU framework for national strategies for the social inclusion and integration of People of African Descent;

    4. Condemns strongly any physical or verbal attacks targeting People of African Descent in both public and private spheres; ?

    5. Encourages EU institutions and Member States to officially acknowledge and mark histories of People of African Descent in Europe – including of past and ongoing injustices and crimes against humanity, such as slavery and transatlantic slave trade, or committed under European colonialism, but also the vast achievements and positive contributions of People of African Descent, through the official recognition at EU and national level of the International Day of Remembrance of the Victims of Slavery and the Transatlantic Slave Trade, including through establishing Black History Months; ?

    6. Encourages Member States and the European Institutions to formally mark both the UN Decade on People of African Descent and take effective measures for the implementation of the programme of activities in the spirit of recognition, justice and development; ?

    7. Recalls that some Member States have taken steps toward meaningful and effective redress for past injustices and crimes against humanity – bearing in mind their lasting impacts in the present – against People of African Descent; ?

    8. Calls on EU institution and the rest of Member States to follow this example which may include some form of reparations such as offering public apologies and the restitution of stolen artefacts to countries of origin; ?

    9. Calls on Member States to declassify their colonial archives; ?

    10. Calls for the EU institutions and its Member States to make efforts to systematically fight ethnic discrimination and hate crime and, along with other key stakeholders, to develop effective, evidence-based legal and policy responses to these phenomena; considers that if data on ethnic discrimination and hate crime were to be collected, it should be for the sole purpose of identifying the roots of and fighting xenophobic and discriminatory discourse and acts, in accordance with national legal frameworks and EU data protection legislation; ?

    11. Calls on the Member States to develop national anti-racism strategies that address the comparative situation of People of African Descent in areas such as education, housing, health, employment, policing, social services and the justice system, political participation/representation and encourage the presence of People of African Descent in media and television programmes to adequately address the lack of representation of People of African Descent, as well as the lack of role models for children of African Descent; ?

    12. Stresses the important role of civil society organisations in combating racism and discrimination and calls for increasing financial support at the European, national and local level for grass-root organisations; ?

    13. Calls for the European Commission to include a focus on People of African descent in its current funding programmes and for the next multiannual period; ?

    14. Calls on the European Commission to set up a dedicated team within relevant Commission services with specific focus on Afrophobia issues; ?

    15. Insists that Member States implement and properly enforce the Council Framework Decision on combating certain forms and expressions of racism and xenophobia by means of criminal law, in particular the inclusion of bias motivations for crimes based on race, national or ethnic origin as an aggravating factor to ensure that hate crimes against People of African Descent are recorded, investigated, prosecuted and sanctioned; ?

    16. Calls on the Member States to effectively respond to hate crime, including the investigation of bias motivation for crimes based on race, national or ethnic origin; calls on Member States to ensure that hate crimes against People of African Descent are recorded, investigated, prosecuted and sanctioned; ?

    17. Calls on Member States to end racial or ethnic profiling in all forms in criminal law enforcement, counter-terror measures and immigration control and to officially recognise and combat practices of unlawful discrimination and violence through anti- racism and anti-bias training for authorities; ?

    18. Calls on Member States to denounce and discourage racist and Afrophobic traditions; ?

    19. Calls on Member States to monitor racial bias in their criminal justice systems, their education systems and in their social services, and to take proactive steps to ensure equal justice and improve relations between law enforcement authorities and minority communities, to ensure equal education and improve relations between education authorities and minority communities, and to ensure equal social services and improve relations between social service authorities and minority communities, in particular with Black communities and People of African Descent; ?

    20. Calls on Member States to ensure adults and children of African descent have equal access to quality education and care free of discrimination and segregation and provide adequate learning support measures when necessary, encourages Member States to make the history of People of African Descent part of the curricula and to present a comprehensive perspective on colonialism and slavery, which also recognises their historical and contemporary adverse effects on People of African Descent,, and to ensure that teachers are adequately trained for this task and equipped to address diversity in the classroom; ?

    21. Calls on EU institutions and Member States to promote and support employment, entrepreneurship and economic empowerment initiatives for People of African Descent to address above average unemployment rates and labour market discrimination against People of African Descent; ?

    22. Calls on Member States to address discrimination against people of African Descent in the housing market and concretely address inequalities in access to housing, ensuring adequate housing; ?

    23. Calls on the European Commission and EU Member States to ensure – taking into account existing legislation and practices – safe and legal avenues for migrants, refugees and asylum seekers, for entering the EU; ?

    24. Calls on the European Commission and the European External Action Service to effectively ensure that there is no EU funds, support or collaboration with organisations or groups engaged in or connected to enslavement, trafficking, torture and extortion of Black and African migrants; ?

    25. Calls on the European institutions to adopt a workforce diversity and inclusion strategy that establishes a strategic plan for ethnic and racial minorities’ participation in their workforce that complements existing efforts; ?

    26. Calls on European parties and political foundations, as well as parliaments at all levels in the EU, to support and develop initiatives encouraging political participation of People of African Descent; ?

    27. Calls on the Commission to closely liaise with international actors such as the OSCE, the UN, the African Union and the Council of Europe, as well as other international partners, in order to combat Afrophobia at international level; ?

    28. Instructs its President to forward this resolution to the Council, the Commission, the Parliaments and Governments of the Member States and the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe.

    Voting on the Resolution was as follows:
    The resolution passed with 535 yes votes, 80 no votes, 135 either abstaining or not voting. The interesting thing to note is the French rejected it. France probably has the highest percentage of sub-Saharan Africans. France has experienced huge American style race riots. The black population produces its own American inspired violent gangster rap music. There are huge problems with racially motivated black on white violence in France.

    All of the French National Rally and National Rally splinter faction MEPs voted against it. Most of the center-right Les Republicans also voted against it. It actually failed among the French delegation 37 to 31 with 6 people not voting.

    France accounted for almost half of the no votes and appears to be the only country where it failed.

    The only members from the United Kingdom who voted against it were four members of the original UKIP delegation. Gerard Batten, the new leader of UKIP, voted against it. The rest, including Nigel Farage, shamelessly abstained.

    Only four Poles voted against it. The Polish Law and Justice Party all voted for it.

    The Hungarian Fidesz party and the Austrian Freedom party all abstained or didn’t cast a vote.

    Surprisingly all members of the Belgian New Flemish Alliance and the Danish People’s Party voted against it.

    The Italian League and Geert Wilders Party for Freedom also voted against it. Other parties that opposed it were the True Finns, Golden Dawn, and most of the AfD members.

  65. Tate April 2, 2019 at 6:59 pm #

    Moroccan Kills Italian: “I Killed Him Because He Looked Happy, I Wanted to Kill His Happiness”

    27-year-old Moroccan Said Mechaout has confessed to the killing of 33-year-old Italian Stefano Leo on 23 February of this year, in Turin.
    “I am the murderer of Stefano Leo… Among all the people who were passing, I chose to kill this young man because he looked happy. And I chose to kill his happiness.”
    Mechaout didn’t know him, at least this is what he told the Carabinieri who have been investigating without rest for five weeks. “That morning,” the killer confessed, “I decided I would have to kill someone. I went to buy a set of knives, then threw away all but the sharpest. Then I went to Murazzi and waited. When I saw that guy I decided I couldn’t bear his happy look.”
    “I saw him, he looked at me and I thought that he should suffer like me. I cut his throat with my knife.
    Stefano Leo had lived for 2 years with a Hare Krishna community in Australia and only recently returned. That may have accounted for his “happy look”. He was also, apparently, a pacifist. Pacifism isn’t a good strategy faced with people like Said Mechaout.
    It’s worth remembering that Morocco isn’t a normal country. Historically, it was just a pirate haven with a hinterland. It attracted the most despicable people from around the Mediterranean region who wanted to participate in the rape and plunder. Some white Christians even went there and converted to Islam just so they too could enjoy the “fun”. In this, it was much like the Islamic State we have seen more recently in Syria, except in Morocco the barbarity lasted for centuries instead of just a few years. That kind of concentrated genetic iniquity does dissipate in a hurry.

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    • BackRowHeckler April 2, 2019 at 8:32 pm #

      A pacificist?

      Lot of good that did ’em!


    • malthuss April 2, 2019 at 8:35 pm #

      I call bs on killer.

  66. Pucker April 2, 2019 at 7:32 pm #

    The society is deranged….

    Where are the Graccus Brothers, Tiberius and Gaius, when you need them?


    • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 10:59 am #

      JFK and RFK. Absolutely ditto of the Graccus brothers.

  67. K-Dog April 2, 2019 at 7:36 pm #

    Trump doubles down on his border threat. He knows it will hurt people but he gives not a rats ass. Par for the course for a man who is known not to pay his bills.

    • BackRowHeckler April 2, 2019 at 8:31 pm #

      It’ll help people too.

      American people.

      Remember them?


      • Tate April 2, 2019 at 9:16 pm #

        He’s too busy virtue signaling.

  68. ozone April 2, 2019 at 8:30 pm #

    So, we have a missive that talks about creeping causes (and sudden tippings provoked by such) for a human extinction event, and what are the responses?

    Political/Ideological division and selection lead by the proper blowhards will provide the correct answers. Pick a side; any side (there’s a whole shitload of them). Ask yourself why that’s the dominant caterwauling, even on CFN, and when you find the lightbulb coming on, it shines on a very deliberate shaping of consensus and conventional wisdom.

    Call it what you want to {…”I call it messin’ with the kid”}, I tend to look at it as mushy thinking, even though it’s [supposedly] carefully thought out, psychologically speaking. Mitigation strategies are not formed by reliance on fantasy and cargo-cult mentality.

    I made a little squeak about this, but V. said it quite a bit more clearly than I had. (Thanks, V.):

    “You can point to so many of today’s troubles as the logical result of people being too lazy to work things out for themselves, of not thinking things through, of ignoring what’s plainly evident, of wanting to be led. So much to pick from, like how this Russia Collusion stuff cleared the launch-pad and became the non-stop issue of the day for three years at the expense of other burning problems that suffered from general inattention. Don’t trust the consensus, people are herd animals and if everyone sez something is true, then ask yourself cui bono from everyone thinking this same way.” — volodya

    I don’t rely on the status quo to change the status quo. If you do, go on ahead, but don’t be begging anyone to save you when what has precipitated your drowning is an anchor you’ve chained to your own leg.

    • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2019 at 9:03 pm #

      Hyper-individualism is both a symptom of the Terminal Disease, and a further vector of the same. E has it in its classic Capitalism form, while you have it in reaction to his and similar “big” projects, be they “private” or state.

      We didn’t conquer this Continent by such private enterprises alone. Men must work together or die alone at the hands of men who do.

      • GreenAlba April 5, 2019 at 8:26 am #

        “We didn’t conquer this Continent by such private enterprises alone. ”

        Well, no. Smallpox, influenza and measles are more of a collective feature.

  69. Q. Shtik April 2, 2019 at 8:58 pm #

    “nukular” — That’s how Yale-grad George W pronounced nuclear.


    That’s also how Jimmy Carter pronounced it.

  70. BackRowHeckler April 2, 2019 at 9:24 pm #

    Hows George Will pronounce it?

    With perfect enunciation?

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  71. BackRowHeckler April 2, 2019 at 9:32 pm #

    Nimbey Hussle’s killer is still out there, running loose.

    Speaking of LA, where did the Angels get $430 million to pay Mike Trout? In third world Los Angeles, of all places.


  72. Pucker April 2, 2019 at 9:35 pm #

    The Graccus Brothers, albeit from an elite family, like Trump, appealed to the Populares (the “Mob”). I think that in the end the Roman Plutocracy killed them, but only after shaking up the Roman political establishment? If nothing else, Trump has exposed the corruption of the MSM as “Fake News”. Not sure if the Genie can be put back into the bottle?

    Optimates and Populares. Optimates and Populares, (Latin: respectively, “Best Ones,” or “Aristocrats”, and “Demagogues,” or “Populists”), two principal patrician political groups during the later Roman Republic from about 133 to 27 bc. The members of both groups belonged to the wealthier classes.

  73. SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 12:21 am #

    Yay its working again Mr. K :-)!!!!! Happy Friday!!!!!

    • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 10:26 am #

      I was googling Kunstler to see if he passed away. Morbid I know but still it was the first time he ever went AWOL.

  74. FincaInTheMountains April 5, 2019 at 5:00 am #

    Germanophilia of Caucasoids or Germany über Alles

    I don’t know how many times I watched this Rammstein’s clip, but each time new meanings are revealed – it seems that in Germany a whole institute works for Rammstein, which comes to the same conclusions as me, but from opposite positions.

    What is that, Berlin Hegelians again? And it works the same! For 190 years works!


    Well, about how it worked in 1835-1914, wrote Dostoevsky, what happened in Russia in 1914-1935, we know almost nothing, and after 1935 a lot was determined by the Woland’s Spring Full Moon Ball in Spaso House.


    The next reference point in the world of ideas is the abdication of Boris Yeltsin.

    And here is Rammstein’s clip, which can be interpreted as you please, but one thing is certain – those who wrote its script as well as I believe that Nazi Germany is not an aberration of history, but a natural embodiment of the Dark German Genius, about which wrote and sung Alexander Blok and Hegel and Rammstein.

    Nevertheless, in Russia, the followers of Granovsky, uniting in a touching unity with Dostoevsky’s “followers,” continue to assert that Germany, or Europe as an option, supports the freedom fighters of Ichkeria and Ukraine, dismantles Yugoslavia, gives guarantees to Yanukovych and imposes Sectoral Sanctions against Russia only because Angela Merkel and her predecessors signed the Chancellor Act.


    And now:

    Ukraine cannot afford to rely on inexperienced leadership in the conflict with Russia and in its difficult economic and social situation Chairman of the CDU/CSU faction Johann David Wadephul said in a statement.

    But this is not a commanding shouts of the hegemon, it’s just bad manners or if you want rudeness!

    So, when the candidate who made the improvement of relations with Russia one of the main points of his election program won the elections in the USA, the same commanding shout came from Berlin, and no Chancellor Act prevented this!

  75. seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 9:44 am #

    Mueller’s team writes summaries for public consumption, fully vetted, no redaction needed. Did they release it? No. Mueller’s team now going on record saying their attorney general is back to his old ways, General Cover-up. Looks like Trump’s “No collusion. Collusion delusion. No obstruction at all. Complete vindication,” is like everything else in Trump’s life, premature ejaculation. What are the oranges of this premature ejaculation? I think we need Mueller team to find the oranges of this phenomenon.

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    • FincaInTheMountains April 5, 2019 at 9:53 am #

      Two and a half years of Mueller’s yanking and tugging and pulling and wrenching and wrestling and dragging and plucking and snatching and seizing and ripping and tearing and jolting and lurching and bumping and rattling and bouncing and shaking and jouncing you call premature?

      • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 10:09 am #

        He’s a premie for sure.

    • SoftStarLight April 5, 2019 at 10:01 am #

      OMG how do you relate it to that? You like to be so dirty sometimes I am thinking. Now Mueller and Barr are besties. Again all of these people are in cahoots don’t fool yourself. Mueller doesn’t want to expose the dirty deeds of his FBI and DOJ friends. And he doesn’t want Obama to get in trouble either since Obama ordered all of it.

      • seawolf77 April 5, 2019 at 10:11 am #

        He hasn’t read the report and never will, it is after all 400 pages.
        How does anyone proclaim full vindication when he hasn’t seen the report? Only a premie does that.


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  3. Forget RussiaGate: America's Anxieties Are About To Go Biblical | News Pig - Bringing You News From The UK And Around The World - April 1, 2019

    […] Authored by James Howard Kunstler via Kunstler.com, […]

  4. Forget RussiaGate: America’s Anxieties Are About To Go Biblical - April 1, 2019

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  5. Forget RussiaGate: America’s Anxieties Are About To Go Biblical – TradingCheatSheet - April 1, 2019

    […] Authored by James Howard Kunstler via Kunstler.com, […]

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  6. Forget RussiaGate: America's Anxieties Are About To Go Biblical | ValuBit - April 1, 2019

    […] Authored by James Howard Kunstler via Kunstler.com, […]

  7. Forget RussiaGate: America’s Anxieties Are About To Go Biblical | Real Patriot News - April 1, 2019

    […] Authored by James Howard Kunstler via Kunstler.com, […]

  8. Big Winter Snow Melt Fears: The Fort Peck Dam on the upper Missouri River in Montana and Oroville Dam near Sacramento, CA | flying cuttlefish picayune - April 1, 2019

    […] http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/biblical-anxieties/ […]

  9. Biblical Anxieties – Kunstler – DE LA GRANDE VADROUILLE A LA LONGUE MARGE - April 2, 2019

    […] Anxiétés Bibliques […]

  10. THE EARTHIAN — 8 – Effective Learning Report - April 2, 2019

    […] “Biblical Anxieties” by Howard Kunstler, JAMES HOWARD KUNSTLER, http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/biblical-anxieties/. […]

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  11. BLACK BEAR NEWS 4.4.19 Insects have "no place to hide" from climate change, study warns – alternativeenergy - April 11, 2019

    […] Biblical Anxieties https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/biblical-anxieties/ […]

  12. A “Perfect Storm” Of Events Is Now Building Towards A Collapse Of Mammoth US Dams (Natural News) – Light has Come - April 12, 2019

    […] (Natural News) Dams do their job every day with little fanfare, but when one breaks, the results can be devastating. Imagine entire towns being completely washed away and millions of people losing everything they own and being displaced. It sounds like something out of a big-budget Hollywood doomsday film, but for the millions of people who live near dams, the danger is all too real. […]

  13. “Perfect Storm” of Events Building Towards Cascading Collapse of Mammoth U.S. Dams That Will Destroy Entire Towns(NaturalNews) – Brutal Proof - April 13, 2019

    […] (Natural News) Dams do their job every day with little fanfare, but when one breaks, the results can be devastating. Imagine entire towns being completely washed away and millions of people losing everything they own and being displaced. It sounds like something out of a big-budget Hollywood doomsday film, but for the millions of people who live near dams, the danger is all too real. […]

  14. BLACK BEAR NEWS 4.4.19 Insects have "no place to hide" from climate change, study warns – Trumpathon – News and information on latest top stories, weather, business, entertainment, politics, - April 26, 2019

    […] Biblical Anxieties […]

  15. Nebraska’s Katrina – Zodiacal Spiral - January 11, 2020

    […] past, exposed piles of moldering grain make for a breeding ground for disease-carrying rats. (See “Biblical Anxieties” on James Howard Kunstler’s blog.) Meanwhile, politicians and media mouthpieces aplenty blather on […]

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