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The Left seems to be opting for civil war. It is surely underway among branches of government and the administrative bureaucracy I call the Deep State. Barack Obama, John Brennan and others set the intel and police apparatus against Mr. Trump and the war goes on in the latest reckless campaign of “whistleblowers” who are no such thing, but rather agents provocateurs of the Central Intelligence Agency.

The Democrats in congress play a dangerous game with this as they attempt to engineer a non-impeachment impeachment — that is, without a vote by the whole House. To allow that vote would be a move to allow the opposition to participate in issuing subpoenas and seeing evidence, and the Democrats are bent on to preventing that. That ploy will provoke the White House to ignore their subpoenas and demands for documents on the principle that this mode of “Impeachment” is not legitimate.

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The Democratic Party is doing everything possible to destroy the legitimacy of these institutions — starting with elections themselves. The origins of the RussiaGate hoax will demonstrate that the party itself was behind “interference” in the 2016 election, and enlisted the help of several foreign governments in doing so. That is why they are so desperate to keep the level of hysteria amped to the max. The day may be not far off when a great and chilling silence falls over this mob as they look to the sky and see the indictments raining down.

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753 Responses to “A Hard Rain”

  1. TraffickingInDivinity October 7, 2019 at 10:02 am #

    “Beyond the ongoing orchestrated coup stands a reality-optional political Left consumed by serial hysterias, uninterested in truth, steeped in social despotism, and apparently willing to do anything to gain power.”

    Well said. Institutional dry rot is our fundamental problem today.

    • Neon Vincent October 7, 2019 at 10:18 am #

      I don’t know if it counts as dry rot, but Ezra Klein of Vox argued for impeachment even if it doesn’t result in conviction and removal. He thinks “the House can focus the public’s attention, send a message to the world, and create a record for the future” and that those are sufficient reasons to go forward. Also, the New York Times reported that Trump wanted a moat with snakes or alligators on the border, which reminded me of Dr. Evil wishing for “sharks with frickin’ laser beams.” In the Austin Powers movie, he got his wish. Trump, who denied saying this, won’t.

      • Neon Vincent October 7, 2019 at 10:27 am #

        Our host excoriated “the federal bureaucracy and…its partners in the news media” but he should have also gone after the entertainment media, in particular the late night variety shows, who are also exploiting the prospect of impeachment for laughs. The latest example is “Saturday Night Live,” which had fun with impeachment this past weekend. These may be bad times for the republic, but great times for comedy.

        Meanwhile, the Retail Apocalypse rolls on, as Forever 21 filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy at the end of September. Fast fashion is succumbing to online retailing and the changing tastes of young women.

        • enjim October 7, 2019 at 11:45 am #

          You may call it “comedy” but I think that it is more like character assassination.

      • Nightowl October 7, 2019 at 11:10 am #

        The thing with the moat and snakes is so far beyond the pale that I sometimes think we live in a simulation.

        Reminds me of our media’s intrepid reporting on how Trump gets” two scoops of ice cream” and WH guests only get one.

        This is truly some of the most embarassing drivel I have ever heard in news media. Truly a flaming garbage barge.

    • Jeremy October 7, 2019 at 11:40 am #

      The dry rot is in American’s heads. But heads not so rotten that Giuliani can’t still make them spin.

      It’s really a testimony to the pathetic state of the US media when one has to watch Foxnews to try to understand what is really going on:


      It truly is a “dumpster fire on a garbage barge!”
      – Kunstler Komedy Gold!

    • Reality Check 1 October 7, 2019 at 9:44 pm #

      Another diatribe full of speculation and conspiracy. No facts presented, just paranoia from a washed out hippie.

    • MontanaMan October 8, 2019 at 7:22 am #


  2. benr October 7, 2019 at 10:06 am #

    Here here we are in 100% agreement as to what is going on.
    I did hold my nose and vote for Trump because the other choice was just to corrupt.
    Great assessment as to what is going on.
    We could go on and on how the voting machines are being rigged in favor of DEMOCRATS as well to which we hear the cries of jerrymandering from Republicans.
    I feel like the days of Tammany hall corruption and Boss Tweed are here again!

    • par4 October 7, 2019 at 10:33 am #

      I would have voted for Idi Amin to keep Hillary out. At least he had a lower body count.

      • Ron Anselmo October 7, 2019 at 10:46 am #


      • edpell October 8, 2019 at 12:37 pm #

        Nice one. I would also.

  3. shotho October 7, 2019 at 10:13 am #

    I agree with Mr. Kunstler that the leftists are more inclined today toward fascism than the rightists. They seem more intolerant of criticism and more willing to use unethical means to achieve their objectives. And this quest of theirs to overthrow an elected government is an assault on our fundamental freedoms and is probably more important in the scheme of things than any other problem facing us as a nation.
    Yes, we are about to experience extreme economic and financial difficulties, but how we respond to them will depend more on the institutions that are now under assault by the Democrats, with the collusion of many Republicans.

    • Nightowl October 7, 2019 at 10:51 am #

      I agree in part. But the choice is a false choice.

      I have not forgotten the appaling Bush years. The attacks on Trump are not traditional in the sense that they come from the “left” only. Trump himself is not a Republican; he ran as one as independents are near non-entities in US electoral politics.

      We (and much of Europe) is dealing with The Purple Revolution. Look into it.

    • DrTomSchmidt October 7, 2019 at 1:01 pm #

      Not so much. Here’s a quote from the OP:
      “They are less interested in “social justice” than in plain coercion, the pleasure they take in pushing people around. What’s worse is that they want to use government as the instrument for enforcing their will. I object to that not just on principle but because government itself will be subject to the same contraction affecting everything else. It simply won’t be able to compensate for all the other losses. Can we downscale its activities coherently, or will we make that journey violently, in some sort of civil war?”

      To some extent, this is what happened in Ferguson, Missouri. A bankrupt city unable to raise revenues on depleted property values, 25% of its income derived from police fines, largely falling on the black population. One of them snapped, attacked a cop, was killed, and that set off a cycle of violence. I get the sense that wasn’t left-wing but right wing, law-and-order social policy that was a cover for revenue raising.

      The left is now attempting to apply this locally (NYC, 250k penalty for using the term illegal alien) and nationally; as legitimate sources of revenue disappear, they’re going to have to get revenue by any means possible. What better than to fine the deplorables for their deplorability?

      Like much in the USA, we perfected the model with blacks first, and now we are applying it everywhere.

      • Nightowl October 7, 2019 at 1:14 pm #

        Similar things are happening in the UK and in Europe (where I relocated). This is much, much bigger than the “left” in the US.

        It is a Western phenomenon and a new color revolution from the likes of the Open Society Foundation and others. The divide and conquer tactics are small potatoes; the bigger plan is the dissolution of national borders, “free movement of labor,” and new centralized governance structures.

        • Slugoon October 7, 2019 at 3:42 pm #


          The old left/right paradigm no longer holds. The emergent world views over here in Europe, as I see them, are the post-nation state, open borders crowd, epitomised by the European Union, and its inverse, which I think I could reasonably sum up as ‘Brexiteers’.

          Ne’er the twain shall meet.

      • MontanaMan October 8, 2019 at 7:26 am #

        Do not even attempt! To prop up the overweight ignorant shit for brains piece of shit NIGGER!! called Michael Brown. And I will call him exactly what he is.

        And we have white trash just like him. You have white and black Niggers in this Country. And the good people of this country that get up go to work every day keep their nose clean pay their taxes go to church and raise their family, we don’t know either scum nothing!!!!

        • DrTomSchmidt October 8, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

          You won’t win too many arguments that way. I said what he did, no? He attacked a cop, stupidly, and was killed for it. I thought it ridiculous that people went to his defense like an innocent victim.

          But still… there’s the issue of the rackets in society that JHK complains about. Law has become a racket to low-IQ, unable-to-delay-gratification people, and it’s no longer meant to guide people onto a more successful path. That uncaring, unblinking, there-to-scam-fines system that Michael Brown lived under? It’s been tested and it’s coming for the rest of us.

          That is i think the heart of what JHK is so dismayed at official corruption. It’s part of why I am.

    • Reality Check 1 October 7, 2019 at 9:45 pm #


  4. Quatermain October 7, 2019 at 10:14 am #

    A very lucid and accurate assessment. I would still hope for some sort of amicable divorce (red vs blue) to avoid the civil war option. But the power thirst of the deep state, the Republiscams and Demonrats will likely not allow that.

    • Reality Check 1 October 7, 2019 at 9:50 pm #

      The bloodlust of the Cons is thick in these comments.

      You all are over 60, mostly retired, gray haired if you have any hair, have two year degrees, own several weapons, believe that Christ walked on water, voted for Trump and are full of rage. For what?

      You all won the fucking election! You own the Supreme Court and the Senate.

      Quit crying like Boomers ALWAYS do and face the fact that Trump is an idiotic criminal.

      I mean who in the fuck tweets at 5 am over something Alec Baldwin said? Ha…haaa…haaa…!!!!

      • MontanaMan October 8, 2019 at 7:27 am #

        And yet you cannot point to one actual crime with any evidence whatsoever. NOT. A. ONE.

      • MontanaMan October 8, 2019 at 7:29 am #

        Edit for Christian wants to believe that Jesus Christ walked on water who are you to judge that person? If you choose not to believe it? OK so white I don’t care what you believe. And yet you wanna run around sticking your nose in the Christians business putting them down. Why don’t you do yourself in the world a favor stay on your side of the fence shit head.

      • benr October 8, 2019 at 4:13 pm #

        In your post we can see your fake laughter but just like the clown in Joker you are really crying.

        Who is angry about Trump, well you are.

        What we Conservatives are angry about is the destruction of America, its values and culture.

  5. BackRowHeckler October 7, 2019 at 10:15 am #

    “The techno industrial phase of history is ending …”

    Yet the fantasy of ‘self driving automobiles’, and of colonizing Mars, remains strong. Another fantasy — one in the news now — is that ‘fossil fuels’ can be abandoned and easily replaced by windmills and solar panels, and all that’s preventing it is evil oil company executives and Republicans. You’ll hear a lot more about that next week when Greta is awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.


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    • Nightowl October 7, 2019 at 10:44 am #

      I have given up on much of the current “green tech.” And that is really saying something becaues clean air and water are very important to me.

      But it appears, based on some of the white papers I have seen, that much of this effort to “combat climate change” is simply an investment vehicle for companies that see big bucks in developing the third world.

      If they were serious about climate, I don’t see why folks in finance and industry would be hyper focused on going through a period of heavy industrial output (such as in China) in developing countries — the emissions of which could never be offset by reductions in the West.

      Then, on top of that, millions of people in those countries will consume more and live longer as a result — catapulting our current “crisis” to something far worse.

      The latter point shows how ridiculous it all is. And the Masters of the Universe have to be aware of it. How do we offset all of that pollution created during and after the industrialization of the third world?

      This puts an even bigger question mark on the supposed science of climate change. It makes no sense.

      • cc rider October 7, 2019 at 11:43 am #

        Yes, the “green tech” is a scam. The so-called green energy is anything but green. Certainly not clean. I hear morons even call it “clean, green energy”. Of course these morons have college degrees. Many of them are lying because they have a vested interest in this technology. Mining all of the rare earth minerals that it takes to make solar panels, batteries for electric cars, and even the giant wind turbans is very bad for the ecosystem(s). Both solar arrays and fields of wind turbans kill tons and tons of birds. And none of these “alternative” energy sources can be manufactured without good old fashioned fossil fuel energy. In fact it takes a lot more fossil fuels to make an electric car than a traditional gas or diesel engine car. Then they have to be charged up of course. The source of the charge isn’t pixie dust.

        I do believe climate change is occurring, but I do not think it is because of C02. No one truly knows where this is all headed. The planet can warm up more, or it may plunge into a mini ice age sometime this century. It is my understanding that in the past there were dramatic warm ups just before an ice age got underway. I don’t know if that is true, but I’ve read that more than once by people far more educated than myself.

        I think Dave Collum, who JHK recently interviewed, summed it up best when he said that the “climate change issue serves as a bug light for idiots”.

        And their patron saint/madonna is a little girl from Sweden who’s been sold out by her pathetic shameless parents to be used by the “sustainable clean green technology” purveyors and investors.

      • BackRowHeckler October 7, 2019 at 12:23 pm #

        “… see big bucks in developing the 3rd world.” — Nightowl

        It appears China is about to move into South Africa. If what my Jamaican friends tell me is accurate about their experience when Chinese investment came into Kingston, South Africans should brace themselves for decades of exploitation, New Colonialism, and a sort of Apartheid similar what they experienced before 1990. China patiently sat back and for 20 years watched SA crumble after white rule ended, now, like corporate raiders in 1980 America, swoop in, mine the place for assets, and discard the dead dry husk.


      • GreenAlba October 7, 2019 at 12:56 pm #

        “This puts an even bigger question mark on the supposed science of climate change. It makes no sense.”

        I don’t see why it does, Nightowl, unless you can prove that the whole of climate science has been surreptitiously financed by the renewables industry (starting before it even existed!) – and the results tampered with as well, in the way that anti-science was financed by Big Tobacco or indeed by fossil fuel interests like ExxonMobil.

        What we do about AGW or indeed whether or not any solutions we can think of will have any net benefit are entirely different issues from the validity of 50 years of climate science.

        I respect the viewpoint of the likes of Jim Bendall:


        But he doesn’t pretend that the difficulties that come with the proposed solutions invalidate the climate science. Because that would be equivalent to saying that the sickness and distress caused by chemotherapy puts a question mark on your cancer diagnosis and suggests your scans were deliberately fiddled.

        If I were diagnosed with terminal cancer, I’d eschew the delights of intensive chemotherapy, try to enjoy the time I had left, and opt for excellent palliative care. But I wouldn’t pretend I didn’t have cancer.

        Personally, I’m a conservationist by conviction. It seems dishonest to engage in discretionary activities I know do harm, like keeping a car on the road, so I don’t keep a car on the road – buying an electric one is neither here not there so I won’t be buying one, although I could and it could be nice to be more mobile. I’m not hair-shirty or saintly enough to dispense with heating, but I try to minimise my use of it. And I still envy your heating bills. There wouldn’t be any point in my moving to a more energy-efficient home, though, because it would just mean someone else would be living in my Victorian tenement flat instead of me – and they might insist on trying to keep it like a greenhouse. Also, not replacing buildings that have a lot of life in them yet is another way of conserving energy and materials. As the late Professor MacKay (Sustainable Energy without the Hot Air) used to say, ‘every little helps – but only a little’.

        • Nightowl October 7, 2019 at 1:26 pm #

          It just isn’t logical. The burden of proof doesn’t fall on us, the plebes.

          I would like to see this hashed out in the public square. Put the science out there from both camps and let’s take a look, because none of us useless eaters really knows anything.

          I just find it odd that despite warnings about 12 years and all of the other talking points out there from the climate crowd, those same folks continue to fly around on private jets, purchase multimillion dollar mansions with the energy efficiency of a small village, and now plan to industrialize the 3rd world. So green.

          Seriously, take moment to really think about the pollution from that process of industrialization, the non-mature technologies, and the populations that will not only explode in numbers with newfound wealth, but will have consumption habits and longevity that matches ours.

          If the alarm is for real and the science is right, these actions make 0 sense. Nothing we can do in the West will offset that. Hell, it will be decades before we can deploy technology that is even marginally green from conception to implementation.

          • GreenAlba October 7, 2019 at 2:48 pm #

            I’m not arguing with any of your extraneous points, Nightowl – I’m just saying they don’t have the slightest effect of denting the climate science. Climate scientists don’t make policy – they’re there to provide the best science they can. What people – either self-serving politicians or self-serving private individuals (rich or less rich) do with that science is up to them, although it must be immensely frustrating to be a climate scientist, especially if you’ve been at it for decades.

            “It just isn’t logical. The burden of proof doesn’t fall on us, the plebes.”

            I don’t know what that means. If you disagree with the science – as opposed to any of the proposed remedies – the burden is on you to come up with some opposing science that cuts the mustard. And not really ‘some’ – an amount equivalent to that which points so firmly to AGW.

            If a private company comes up with a ‘cure’ for cancer that does more for its shareholders that it does for you, and just keeps you living for 3 extra months that are pretty miserable, you can argue that you’re not their main priority, but you can’t claim you haven’t got cancer.

          • GreenAlba October 7, 2019 at 2:57 pm #

            Also, longevity is retreating in at least some western countries – we seem to have peaked. I don’t believe that most people in ‘developing’ countries will ever see the level of (over-)development that we’ve achieved elsewhere. There won’t be enough energy, no matter where it comes from.

            “Put the science out there from both camps and let’s take a look, because none of us useless eaters really knows anything.”

            That’s exactly the kind of fuzzy disinformation that has been financed by the dedicated deniers for decades. The idea that the science ‘from both camps’ has some kind of equivalence is nonsense. It’s what we should or can do about it that’s the issue. ExxonMobil’s OWN scientists came down on the side of AGW in the 80s and ExxonMobil continued to fund disinformation. That’s not the problem of ‘science’.

            The science from whomever you want is already ‘out there’. Just read it. Even just the abstracts. But there’s no point in reading just stuff from denier websites, then saying ‘science’ still doesn’t know.

          • Nightowl October 7, 2019 at 3:39 pm #

            What it means, GA, is that I want to see both sides presented and allotted equal space to present the evidence. The burden of proof falls on the folks telling us that X is going to happen, providing us with solid evidence that X is going to happen.

            So far, the results are mixed. The science is not settled, as science cannot be settled by definition. We rely on computer models to make predictions, and we are attempting to predict something that is extraordinarily complex.

            Lastly, my “extraneous” points are important here. When I see Industrial Revolution 2.0 looming before us, and the plan is to increase the consumer class by millions and millions of people, I wonder why our “pro-climate” corporate masters seem to think that this is feasible.

            It doesn’t add up, because you can’t increase pollution at the level proposed and, in parallel, take anything even approaching meaningful action on the climate “crisis.”

            Yet, that appears to be the plan. So what do they know that we don’t?

          • GreenAlba October 10, 2019 at 8:30 am #


            I’m not having a go at you personally – I know you’re basically conservation minded, as I am myself.

            But in terms of ‘both sides’, yes, please, let them go at it in the public space – I’d watch it on a loop!

            Leaving aside actual climate scientists who do nothing else for a living, I look forward to seeing George Monbiot and David Attenborough having a public debate with James Delingpole, James Inhofe, the remaining Koch, Donald Trump, Charles Booker (Telegraph columnist whose nonsense I’ve seen repudiated by the Telegraph’s own science correspondent in the same edition!), Ian Plimer et al.

            Maybe not Viscount Monckton, as the ‘bug eyes’ his unfortunate medical condition have caused might freak you out if you can’t cope with little Greta’s enthusiastic demeanor. I don’t even mind DA and GM being outnumbered by all these folks as long as they get equal time.

            As regards actual climate scientists, the proportion who argue against AGW is vanishingly small, but again, bring it on. I’ll watch it any time. I think you will find it backfires, scientifically speaking, but you’ll be saved by the fact that for those who don’t wish to be convinced the issue is not scientific, it’s psychological and political. So at the end of the day we’d get nowhere.

            When you say ‘the results are mixed’, could you qualify and quantify that in a way that would facilitate a discussion of the facts?

            “The burden of proof falls on the folks telling us that X is going to happen, providing us with solid evidence that X is going to happen.”

            The evidence is already here as the effects are happening already, and rather faster than predicted (scientists are generally conservative). You can keep saying ‘this isn’t necessarily caused by AGW’ forever, just as the tobacco lobby kept saying ‘this isn’t caused by tobacco smoking’ – until it couldn’t (although, as you point out, science can’t be settled, so maybe you also reject the link between cigarette smoking and cancer). Meanwhile that useful window is getting narrower, which is what the lobbyists have always wanted. In the meantime, studies of the actual predictions of the models have shown them to be robust overall, in terms of actual outcomes so far.

            I don’t think Industrial Revolution 2.0 is the answer either (although clean electricity is better than dirty electricity), but I also think using the word ‘pollution’ muddies the waters in terms of the actual AGW proposition.

            What kind of solid evidence would you like to see? The actual weather conditions in summer 2100? If you can’t specify the actual evidence that would convince you, your argument against the science is disingenuous.

            Note, again, that I’m not arguing for anyone’s specific New Green Deal agenda. I operate my own Green Deal in my personal life, without saying a word to anyone offline. I could buy a car. I could take lots of holidays by air (or indeed by anything!). That would make a difference, because everything makes a difference (that’s science!).

            If you want my tuppence-worth, in terms of data-free predictions, I’d guess nothing useful will be done. And the combination of climate disruption and resource depletion will take most of us out in tandem. I wish I didn’t have a grandchild, but what can you do?

          • GreenAlba October 10, 2019 at 12:05 pm #

            Sorry, *Christopher* Booker. Don’t know why I always want to call him Charles.

    • PeteAtomic October 7, 2019 at 10:52 am #

      well said

    • sprawlcapital October 7, 2019 at 11:20 am #

      Windmills and solar panels are not without significant negative impacts on land. This is very obvious in Iowa, where the topsoil is rich and is a world-class resource. Each individual wind turbine takes up about two acres of land and includes a massive concrete foundation to anchor the tower. I consider wind “farms” to be a form of urban sprawl.

      Then there are solar panels. People are making insane proposals to cover acres of Iowa land with solar panels. If used at all, solar panels should go on rooftops, and not destroy the best farmland on earth.

      • Nightowl October 7, 2019 at 11:34 am #

        Batteries for hybrid and e-vehicles are also quite bad. I recall reading a breakdown a few years ago explaining that the environmental cost to produce a battery for a Tesla is equivalent to putting a gasoline powered vehicle on the road for 30 years.

        Still, the environmental fallout from these technologies is nothing compared to the pollution that will come from the development of the third world. Nothing we do in the West could even begin to offset that.

        China alone surpasses the US and Europe combined in CO2 output.

      • cbeard October 7, 2019 at 4:37 pm #

        Absolutely, solar panels belong on every rooftop on the planet where practical. Utility companies shouldn’t be allowed to install them on hundreds or thousands of acres of arable land. Personally, I think it will be a long time before we stop using fossil fuels, if ever. But, using alternative means for power could lessen the reliance on said fuels drastically and extend the supply of fossil fuels for decades, centuries, maybe thousands of years. Not only solar, but wind, hydro, whatever works. I too, think the climate is changing, but I think the causation is not clear. A bigger problem is overpopulation.

    • Paulo October 7, 2019 at 9:52 pm #

      Wow, I suddenly realized I had missed reading today’s post by 12 hours. I just finished reading it and finally figured out why? JHK has become irrelevant and disconnected from reality. I was interested to read in his article that many have departed his blog. After reading comments apparently written on some kind of right wing mirror, I have decided to quit wasting my time hoping for an article on limits or values. Instead, we are treated to another whining diatribe worthy of a Lindsey Graham or Jim Jordan.

      I understand there are many GOP retirements in the House for 2020. Here’s your chance, Jimbo. You can finally stand beside Jordan or Devin Nunes and proclaim it’s all the Deep State. Who knows? Maybe Trump will give you a sharpie for your continued support. SAD.

      Anyway, count me as gone and never to return. Good luck and thanks for writing the Long Emergency. I hung on as long as I could after buying all your books in order to support your efforts and commitment. I wish I had waited.

      • benr October 8, 2019 at 4:14 pm #

        Bye your posts had no value to this board at all so you won’t be missed.

  6. The Freeholder October 7, 2019 at 10:17 am #

    Well said, sir. While we may not agree on much in politics, we agree on this. I hope your critics will look deeper into themselves, current and historic events and what you have said and find the truth that is so plainly in front of them.

    Unfortunately, I doubt that will happen, and so both sides will continue on the path to some sort of civil war.

  7. K-Dog October 7, 2019 at 10:18 am #

    At “the expense of other matters that concern our future”.

    And what would those be? Readers here know plenty of other matters that concern our future.

    I am not sure anybody else cares or has any issues.

    Matters of life and death have been replaced by concern over micro-plastic falling in rain. Never have so many been so stupid.

    • Microplastics falling in rain are in my top 5 matters of concern.

      I’m about 10 years ahead of the curve though

    • Rulo Deschamps October 7, 2019 at 7:01 pm #

      Widespread plastic pollution is one of my top concerns, K-dog. Call me stupid if you want. Whoever invented plastics should be declared an “enemy of the Earth”.

      • BackRowHeckler October 7, 2019 at 9:23 pm #

        Plastic hasn’t been around that long, mid 1940s at the earliest.

        • K-Dog October 7, 2019 at 10:37 pm #

          Worrying about there being no more bugs is way more important than worrying about plastic. That said there is way too much plastic used in packaging and it should be gotten rid of.

  8. So many liars October 7, 2019 at 10:19 am #

    Jim, you’re gaining new readers for each one you lose.

    Thank you for having the intellectual honesty to tirelessly articulate the malfeasance going on – even though you don’t support the president himself. It’s hard for anyone to credibly accuse you of promoting a right-wing view.

    Thank you for caring enough about our country, our future, and the future of our children/grandchildren to cut through the fog with clear, pointed analysis.

    Where I live, we’ve endured a couple of months of no rain. Finally, the rain has arrived. You can almost literally see the relief in the rapid re-greening of the grass. For those of us who share your deep concern about the criminality of those who hold power, the image of a Rain of Indictments brings us hope. LET IT POUR!

    • Nightowl October 7, 2019 at 11:02 am #

      Agreed, Jim is one of the only luminaries from my lefty days (I don’t know how else to describe them) who seems to get it. Though I do see Trump in a more positive light.

      His posts on the subject of the state of the US of A have increased my respect for him even more.

    • MX Vet 57 October 7, 2019 at 11:25 am #

      You must be somewhere near me (S. Georgia). It’s finally raining this morning!

      • So many liars October 7, 2019 at 11:52 am #

        East TN

        • MX Vet 57 October 7, 2019 at 11:58 am #

          I have a friend that lives in Dayton. He’s kept me informed on the drought there. Here, it started raining a bit yesterday, but this morning the heavens finally opened up. Like you up there, we’ve gone weeks without any rain. The southeast does not do well without regular rain – as I’m sure you know.

          Have a great day!

          • So many liars October 7, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

            Thank you! Of course it’s not as bad as 2016 – when we had wildfires in the national forests and in the Smokies. That time it didn’t start raining until late November.

            But 2016 temperatures weren’t as bad as they were this year. We were in the 90s through October 3rd – OCTOBER! Today’s high is 70.

          • cbeard October 7, 2019 at 4:40 pm #

            I’m in South Georgia also. Had a scattered shower or two in the county yesterday, but not enough to do any good. Didn’t rain at all on my property.

          • Rulo Deschamps October 7, 2019 at 7:09 pm #

            Florida farmer here. Rainy season has been bone dry. Didn’t have to winch the truck out of a mud rut once, which is good. Land is parched. Irrigation re-started months before the usual date. Making a bit of extra $ trapping coons and possums desperate for water that “invade” the pools of the rich, and shit in them, probably from relief at having found water. For the record, I think the rich cretins that have colonized FL are the invaders, not the coons.

        • Q. Shtik October 8, 2019 at 3:41 pm #

          Johnson City?

  9. Cavepainter October 7, 2019 at 10:23 am #

    No Jim, the mob won’t “look to th e sky”, but instead, as in the French and Russian revolutions, it will swing to the post modernist Utopian pitch of a secular rapture. Its not who reasons that’ll come to power but rather the most ruthless who promises the rosiest outcome. Then that ruthlessness will be expressed as an updated form of Stalin-ism.

    • JohnAZ October 7, 2019 at 10:48 am #

      Throughout history, the most masculine race, your ruthless, wins.

  10. Ishabaka October 7, 2019 at 10:26 am #

    Quid Pro Joe

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    • Exscotticus October 7, 2019 at 10:54 am #

      Nailed it. That ought to be his campaign slogan.

      • sprawlcapital October 7, 2019 at 11:34 am #

        This is why we look forward to Mondays and Fridays. The best blog and the best comments.

  11. fugeguy October 7, 2019 at 10:27 am #

    “What’s worse is that they want to use government as the instrument for enforcing their will. ”

    This is so ironic because this is the oppression which the lefties make a lifestyle by playing the victim. If someone is prejudice towards black people, short people, gay people, etc- that just makes you a jerk. But using the machinations of government to “enforce your will” is true oppression.

    It would be funny except for the real world implications, coming soon en mass, I suspect when/ if Miss Lizz has her coronation.

    • abbybwood October 7, 2019 at 12:39 pm #

      Right. As with the latest fascist law in NYC which has declared if one says “illegal alien” in a “hateful manner” they will be fined $250,000!

      Ironically, “illegal alien” is the term used in all Congressional legislative bodies.

      There is a “defense mechanism” term in psychiatry called “projection”.

      I believe, according to all the relevant evidence I have seen thus far, that the DNC/Democrat Party are all guilty of the very accusations they have been hurling at Trump. This is classic projection.

      Accusations of collusion with a foreign country to influence the 2016 election? Democrats/HRC. Check.

      Joe Biden getting caught in lies and skullduggery with his son regarding Ukraine and Burisma when Joe Pro Quo is accusing Trump of trying to illegally interfere in the 2020 election? More projection.

      This is all classic, “Don’t pay any attention to that man behind the curtain!!!”.

      JHK is 100% correct. Schiff and Pelosi and the rest of Congress know that there is a very real probability that Barr and Durham will discover all the crimes committed by the Democrats to create a coup against Trump because their chosen queen lost a rigged election by the DNC. From the night of the election when all the Young Turks’ heads exploded and the MSM lost their shit when Podesta FINALLY showed to sort of concede, they have been throwing everything (including the kitchen sink!) at Trump hoping something will stick. So far nada.

      They all know what is coming and apparently, in their warped criminal minds, they think all they have done so far will distract the American people from the obvious fact that all along it has been THEY who are guilty of various federal crimes, not Trump.

      • Hands4u October 7, 2019 at 4:22 pm #

        As with all people “projection” goes both ways. In this case the problem is reasponse’s of “action” “re-action” and “over-reaction” as the fight/flight/fear and ‘procreative’ processes kick in the ego is stretched and has great difficulty retaining it’s integrity. I believe for the most part Jim is correct in his assessment. Though, since this is the “long emergency” nothing is really surprising anymore; and just a great disappointment. Survival doesn’t take “dignity” into account; and focus on how you might thrive and create progress within your home and neighborhoods.

  12. fred October 7, 2019 at 10:29 am #

    Jim, I very much appreciate your intellectual honesty. It is a rare commodity (and getting rarer). None of us has a crystal ball as to specifically how things will go down, but I know I can count on you to call it as honestly as you see it.

    • Walter B October 7, 2019 at 10:50 am #

      Yes indeed. This place is MY mainstream media along with Greg Hunter and Stephen Ben Noon. There are no others as all else is horse shit. What is very encouraging is that my somewhat liberal 15 year old and her friends have been asking recently, why these elected idiots on the left do not STFU and start doing what they get paid to do – run our government. Pelosi, Schumer and the Clintons are so deranged and so outright evil that they are turning more and more against them every day. Paybacks ARE a bitch!

      • sprawlcapital October 7, 2019 at 11:46 am #

        I once heard a very competent truck driver say, after someone hid “Old Blue”, the blue-colored pallet jack that was his favorite, “There’s gonna be a payback, and paybacks are HELL!!”

    • Epicur October 8, 2019 at 8:13 am #

      “Jim, I very much appreciate your intellectual honesty. It is a rare commodity (and getting rarer). None of us has a crystal ball as to specifically how things will go down, but I know I can count on you to call it as honestly as you see it.”

      That goes for me, too.

  13. Exscotticus October 7, 2019 at 10:35 am #

    >>> A lot of readers (some of them former readers now) have been angrily twanging me by email for writing about the three-year Resistance effort to un-do the 2016 election.

    You lost Janebot? So sad! Must have given you the vapours…

  14. rhys12 October 7, 2019 at 10:35 am #

    Of course the Democrats’ plan is that they will be in power by the time the investigation of them really gets under way, and will be able to sidetrack or block it. They may well be right, as little seems to be actually happening in regards to that.

    The news media fumes about Trump going to foreign leaders to investigate things, but ignores the idea that the reason for that is that our own intelligence agencies are actively backing the Democrats and out to get Trump.

    It would probably be a good idea if the Democrats did win in 2020 and inherited the coming economic collapse. There will be a loong recovery from that, and they can’t blame Trump forever. The problem is that they will probably declare a “state of emergency” and overthrow the Republic.

    • JohnAZ October 7, 2019 at 10:45 am #

      Exactly, the intelligence world is saturated with socialists and make up the top of the bureaucratic Deep State. It is so bad that Barr, their boss, is having to go around them to investigate anything.

      BTW, they have succeeded in cutting the head off the FBI and Comey with the idiotic Mueller report. I notice it is now the CIA with John Brennan is the center of the latest fiasco. Barr and Horowitz and Burham better get part of their weaponry aimed in the CIA direction. Due to their international scope, the CIA is even more dangerous.

      Folks, either believe in the people of the US or believe that these government idiots can run the country. That is our choice. Currently the issue balance is about 50-50, scary.

    • messianicdruid October 7, 2019 at 11:45 am #

      “It would probably be a good idea if the Democrats did win in 2020 and inherited the coming economic collapse.”

      We do not have that long. The plan is to hang it around Trump’s neck [ and his supporters ].



      • capt spaulding October 7, 2019 at 12:10 pm #

        So what I get out of your post is that if we do go into a recession, it won’t be Trump’s fault. You refer to it as “the coming economic collapse”. I can only surmise that if we have an economic boom, it will, of course, be Trump’s doing. If we do have an economic collapse, it will be the fault of the people in charge.

        It’s pretty handy to blame the other party when the SHTF, and gobble up the credit when things turn out good. I have never heard a Republican take credit for creating the Great Recession, which is the reason I post ironically about cutting taxes and deregulating.

        Hillary is a crook, but so is the Donald. It’s like arguing which was worse, Hitler’s death camps, or Stalin’s forced labor camps. It’s very disheartening to see people support politicians who are absolutely corrupt, and then turn around and call the opposition a bunch of crooks, when they are all the same. I’ve got news for you. Trump is a liar and a crook, and nothing is gonna change that. Hillary is a liar and a crook, and nothing is gonna change that either. This country needs people who will demand good government from their leaders “In a Democracy, you get the government you deserve”, remember that fact.

      • Majella October 7, 2019 at 5:35 pm #

        You’re most probably quite right.

        The repo market is in dire chaos and no-one seems to know why:

        “At first, we were told corporations were draining their cash reserves to meet quarterly tax payments at the same time the market was flooded with Treasuries — a hangover from the debt-ceiling farce earlier this year. It was a one-time thing.

        Then we were told the Fed’s efforts would have to continue through the end of September as Wall Street firms needed the extra liquidity to square their books at the end of the quarter. It would be over as of last week.

        With this latest announcement, the Fed didn’t even bother coming up with an excuse. Never apologize, never explain, right?”


    • abbybwood October 7, 2019 at 1:29 pm #

      The Barr/Durham investigation is well under way. I will betcha they issue the results well before the big Democrat confab in Minneapolis next July.

      Just in time for them to be caught running around with their collective hair on fire!

      Somebody order the straight jackets! We will DEFINITELY need one for Rep. Adam Schiff.

  15. JohnAZ October 7, 2019 at 10:35 am #

    Think how a cold civil war would occur. There is no geopolitical split for the civil war to be fought over. The closest maybe cities versus country, ie blue vs. red. That would be absolutely hilarious, and it would last less than a week. As soon as the shelves empty, the gas pumps run out, and the folks give up on the worthless Dems, the war will be over.

    JHK is 100% correct this week. It won’t be oil, it won’t be AI, it won’t be moving stuff over seas, it won’t be electric cars, it won’t be AGW. It will be all the above wrapped up with socialistic trends by the power hogs and the steady increase of a worthless gimme public brought on by the stupidification of US education and illegal immigration.

    All in the name of the power hogs.

    Here is a IMHO, the Reds are chickens—t and traitorous in their desire to perpetuate their power in the Deep State. RINOs are not Red, they are blue.

    It is a wonder how anyone could believe in socialism with its many failures in the 20th century. I guess it is an avenue to power is all.

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    • Janos Skorenzy October 7, 2019 at 12:03 pm #

      You’re forgetting (again) about the Capitalist rape of Germany after WW2 (much like the South after the Civil War) and the miracle cure via National Socialism (not Marxist Socialism). I suggest you begin to remember as in re-membering or putting yourself back together in a cosmic sense.

      Needless to say, this the Capitalists could not allow or abide, lest in spread to other countries. So they and the Communists lackeys set out to destroy National Socialism and Fascism. I mean there are reasons why these systems aren’t even taught at university level economics – they make too much sense.

      • Majella October 7, 2019 at 5:37 pm #

        “You’re forgetting (again) about the Capitalist rape of Germany after WW2 “..um, I think you meant WW1, right?

        • Janos Skorenzy October 7, 2019 at 11:28 pm #

          Both actually, but yes, I meant WW1. Thank’s for catching that. Now if you could but understand it!

          • Majella October 8, 2019 at 2:35 am #

            I understand it, Janos. But the ‘Hcapitalist Rape’ after WW2 didn’t give rise to Gfasvism in Germany…however, it WAS exported to the US. And finally ‘hatche’ when Reagan got elected.

          • Majella October 8, 2019 at 2:36 am #

            Excuse the typos – the sense is clear I believe.

          • Walter B October 8, 2019 at 8:35 am #

            And at least IMHO, once the Nazis were imported into our government after WWII, our system was infected with the disease which has slowly advanced and eroded America since 1945. The Deep State as it is so called was full of them thanks to Allen Dulles and the OSS/CIA. Eventually they corrupted into the MIC. Thanks a lot Allen.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 1:07 pm #

            Yet here we are in 2019, with leading Democratic Candidates denying Whites their right to organize like other races in America, and vowing to hunt them down with the Secret Police.

            Walter, to the extent you are right, such people ceased to be what they were. I mean look at Jim Jones: he started out as a neo-Marxist humanitarian and became something far darker.

    • Hands4u October 7, 2019 at 4:34 pm #

      In Ecuador in the 1960’s the people allowed the military to take over with guarantee that there would eventually be open and free elections it took until the mid-70’s and then there were about 13 different parties and the one that won was smack dab in the middle. (if you take a socialist democrate to the be middle of both extremes left and right). Our problem is that we also function pretty much as an open capitalist system and that if you’re making money, you can justify the means (for the most part) thus the move to more socialistic democratic reform.
      The military has had to take over a couple of other times since but they have also been able to let the people vote and move the democratic process forward. (Interesting history; I was an AFS student there in 79′)

  16. Ghung October 7, 2019 at 10:36 am #

    “They are less interested in “social justice” than in plain coercion, the pleasure they take in pushing people around. What’s worse is that they want to use government as the instrument for enforcing their will.”

    It’s pretty clear that Mr. Kunstler has not recently lived in a deep far-right area where the Republicans are guilty of the exact same behaviors. Moderates and centrists in the bible belt have been trying to stand firm against incursions such as crosses in schools and controls upon their behaviors that the right is equally guilty of, and which government of any leaning has no business legislating. Meanwhile, virtually everything is bogged down in the courts and nothing gets done.
    Placing the blame for the long emergency solely on the left is just plain silly. We’re all guilty to some degree.
    It doesn’t matter if it is fire, flood, or wind that destroys your house. You still be homeless. Meanwhile, I consider the immediate clear-and-present-danger to be Trump. One thing at a time, eh? Seems we can’t even fart and chew gum at the same time these days.

    • JohnAZ October 7, 2019 at 11:02 am #

      The Stupidification of our education system and the introduction of millions of relatively illiterate immigrants is what has allowed the increasing rate of the Long Emergence, The Left, the extreme Left are the ones that have put both causes in place and continue to foster both of them.

      Why you acknowledge the decline and still believe the only outfit in the country that is trying to fight it is a clear and present danger is a wonder?

      • Ghung October 7, 2019 at 11:38 am #

        The long emergency has deep roots and to posit that Trump can in any way “fight it” is a ‘wonder’. Trump is a symptom of how far we have fallen. Meanwhile, he is a brilliant catalyst for failure and division, setting a new bar for how low we can go.
        What’s your rush?

        • Walter B October 8, 2019 at 8:39 am #

          I do not know that he fights them, but he has certainly slowed down the class/race war trend by concentrating their hatred and efforts upon himself. I would assume that once he is out of office either a year or five from now we are going to get crushed by a huge blow back effort from the radical loonies on the far left. Then we might be facing some serious social unrest and maybe even conflict in the streets.

    • CancelMyCard October 7, 2019 at 12:10 pm #

      It is clear that many, if not most, people posting here have little experience living in a rural, farming community. I have lived most of my life in that environment, and can tell you firsthand that the people there are no more prepared for a time of want than most of their urban citizens.

      Very, very few of them have vegetable gardens and/or raise livestock. They all schlepp off to Walmart or the local corporate supermarket for all their food. They are not any more mentally or physically fit than anybody else. The farms are almost universally mono-cultures, with massive dependence on artificial fertilizers, pesticides, and herbicides. The soils are totally depleted and have zero resilience.
      They are just as dependent on the electrical grid, fossil fuels, and government assistance.

      Please dissuade yourselves that when TSHTF comes, those in the countryside will fare so much better than their counterparts in the cities. They will not.

      • So many liars October 7, 2019 at 12:34 pm #

        There’s probably a lot of truth in your statement. On the other hand, I’m thinking of how utterly clueless many urbanites are, and how great the distance they are, literally and figuratively, from where things are grown.

        For instance, the farmer almost certainly has a well. He has tools. He knows what good soil looks like, and has a decent grasp of the climate calendar for his area. Even if he doesn’t currently grow a vegetable garden, he probably grew up with one. He isn’t scared to death of snakes and bees.

        Contrast that with the city dweller when the power goes out, the water stops flowing, the bank card doesn’t work, and EEEEEK! a mouse!!!

        • stelmosfire October 7, 2019 at 1:06 pm #

          Being what would probably considered a semi urban-rural dweller I see it all around me. My apples might have a worm but it is chemical free. There is an old Polish lady up the road 90 years plus and built like a truck with a heavy accent. . She comes by and picks up all the drops and makes pies, perogies, and sauce. She went through WWII in the homeland. She knows about hardship. On the other hand I can’t even give the good fruit away because it has “spots”, no bugs just spots. I see the local supermarket throwing away lots of produce because of “spots”. People are gonna get a good “smack upside the head” when hard times come.

          • Hands4u October 7, 2019 at 4:38 pm #

            I esentially live in the “city” and we just had an “apple press” with some neighbors-friends. It would probably take another day to process just what they had in their yard but my wife and I plan on enjoying some of the “fruits” of the labor- Liquid Sunshine”!

          • stelmosfire October 7, 2019 at 9:17 pm #

            My buddy and I just crushed 30 gallons of wine grapes and it is in the first ferment barrel now. Not 5 star but it gets the job done and is great for a polenta/rabbit stir.

          • BackRowHeckler October 7, 2019 at 9:27 pm #

            RIP, were those wine grapes grown local?

          • Janos Skorenzy October 7, 2019 at 11:29 pm #

            You guys danced in a giant vat? To what music?

          • stelmosfire October 8, 2019 at 8:38 am #

            me and a friend


        • abbybwood October 7, 2019 at 2:34 pm #

          About a month ago I spent a week driving around central and northern Ohio and just about every farm I passed had a huge garden. I saw seas of ripe tomatoes on the vine, stopped by many farm stands which were heaped with every kind of produce you can imagine.

          Many farmers still leave tons of produce (sweet corn, tomatoes, squash, apples etc.) sitting out by the road with cigar boxes full of cash and “the honor system” to pay. You could usually pick up a kitten too, if so inclined.

          I can’t say what the other states are doing where farming is huge, but I have a feeling Pennsylvania, Indiana, parts of upstate NY etc. are pretty much the same.

          • Nightowl October 7, 2019 at 3:48 pm #

            I am from Upstate NY originally. Farmers did leave out produce. My dad and I used to get “indian corn” like this all the time.

      • Rulo Deschamps October 7, 2019 at 7:29 pm #

        Mr Card, agree to a point with your commentary. The giant monocultures rely heavily on oil, seed, fertilizer, machinery. They’d be toast in an emergency, unless gov’t prioritized their access to those resources. However, more people work outside in rural areas, with their hands, building things, fixing things. Every few gates, you see a sign, “eggs for sale”, “honey for sale”. You do see more vegetable gardens, and it’s not uncommon to see cabbage and onion patches adjacent to roadside stands also selling firewood and seedlings, at least in my neck of the woods in N FL – S FL is a different story. Everyone who is not rich there works servicing the rich in one way or another, their skills going no further than how to clean pool filters and apply chemicals to golf courses. In any case, I’d be more comfortable facing “the long emergency” in a rural setting than an urban one.

    • messianicdruid October 7, 2019 at 7:47 pm #

      “Moderates and centrists in the bible belt have been trying to stand firm against incursions such as crosses in schools and controls upon their behaviors that the right is equally guilty of, and which government of any leaning has no business legislating.”

      It is clear that displaying crosses and trying to enforce the Ten Commandments is ruining the country.

  17. Exscotticus October 7, 2019 at 10:41 am #

    >>> The machinations of Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Rep. Adam Schiff in this latest “whistleblower” affair pulsate with skullduggery.

    You will recall that the first Brett Kavanaugh “witness” was quickly followed by another, and another, and another—each less convincing than the one before—as if sheer numbers alone would carry the day, as if five times zero somehow doesn’t equal zero.

    There’s a reason Dems are shielding these spies under the whistleblower laws; they know that none of them will hold up under cross examination. Heck, they’re not even holding up now. The first was already busted for meeting with Team Schiff and failing to disclose this to the IG.

    • JohnAZ October 7, 2019 at 11:04 am #

      Remember the no. One rule of the Dems

      Lie1+ lie 2 + lie 3 + lie4 +lie n = truth

      It works very well in an ignorant society.

      • Rulo Deschamps October 7, 2019 at 7:38 pm #

        The propaganda minister of that guy with the funny mustache is often quoted for a statement along the lines of “lie, lie, some of it will stick”. For what it’s worth, I don’t think “the left” has a monopoly on it – the other team is also very good at it. That’s why I’ve given up on national politics a long time ago. Can’t trust either Coke or Pepsi. Just like JHK, I didn’t vote for either major candidate, but agree Mr Trump is the least of two evils. I voted Green, & regret that decision. I probably won’t bother next time.

    • abbybwood October 7, 2019 at 2:46 pm #

      And Shifty Schiff was also busted for lying. On national teevee! He claimed he had had no contact with the CIA spook “working” at The White House when it turns out there was contact a month earlier!

      BTW, we can see that Pelosi and her bogus “impeachment inquiry” is nonsense for many reasons, but mainly it is that she has The Intelligence Committee leading the charge and NOT Judiciary.

      There will be no impeachment. But Joe and Hunter are in hot water and Biden will NOT be the nominee. Zero chance. He is blowing hot air out his blow hole with every snap he makes to a reporter saying the name “Hunter”.

  18. pokercat October 7, 2019 at 10:41 am #

    JHK and many of his followers have fallen into the trap of Politics as Religion where facts don’t matter only belief.

    What surprises me is an otherwise intelligent writer expresses opinion as fact as does everyone in the cults of religions and politics.

    I would be more comfortable and you would be more accurate if you started every article or essay with “In my opinion”.

    Here’s a fact you cannot deny: We are all without a doubt going to die, so why are you wasting time on this BS.

    Here’s an opinion: Humanity is on the road to near if not total extinction and most of us will not or cannot get off that road, so why waste your time with this BS.

    Enjoy life….play poker today. Feed the cat.

    • Exscotticus October 7, 2019 at 10:52 am #

      And yet here you are. Giving us your opinion and failing to follow your own rules. Next time, begin your post with, “In my opinion.”

      >>> Enjoy life….play poker today. Feed the cat.

      Follow your own advice?

      • JohnAZ October 7, 2019 at 11:06 am #

        There are those that believe if you are going down, go down fighting.

        I have much respect for those folks.

        Not so much for quitters.

    • elysianfield October 7, 2019 at 12:33 pm #

      “Enjoy life….play poker today. Feed the cat.”

      I would be playing poker, except for that fucking Sheldon Addleson….

      • pokercat October 7, 2019 at 5:14 pm #

        Oh the days of old when you could make a few thousand dollars on a Sunday morning on PokerStars.com

        But we have the best congress money can buy.

        You can still play online poker for dollars and many do. The sites are unreliable and getting money online due to Addleson’s Law is expensive and risky. Getting your winning from the available poker sites is ridiculous.

        So in all there “wisdom” (greed) Congress has made it so I have to drive about 50 miles one way to play a game they routinely play in the buildings we pay for in Washington DC. In DC playing in a home game is not prohibited but organizing the game and setting up the instruments of play is technically illegal.

    • abbybwood October 7, 2019 at 2:50 pm #

      Already fed the cat and I would rather play Euchre.

  19. JustSaying October 7, 2019 at 10:41 am #

    Great post today. I am in total agreement with you.

    …Beyond the ongoing orchestrated coup stands a reality-optional political Left consumed by serial hysterias, uninterested in truth, steeped in social despotism, and apparently willing to do anything to gain power…We already have plenty of evidence for what the Left will do to the principle of political liberty…This is the sort of thing you get in Spanish inquisitions and Soviet show trials…

    What amazes me is their self-righteousness and abject duplicity such as Nancy’s impeachment heartache: “I pray for the president all the time.” I bet she prays every day that he drops dead! Pence too.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 7, 2019 at 12:05 pm #

      Gays adore the rabid poodle. It speaks volumes about who and what they are.

  20. davidreese2 October 7, 2019 at 10:48 am #

    I’ve been waiting for a Kunstler post like this one. Couldn’t agree more.

    Until the last sentence. The only way indictments can be coming is if this country is still ruled by the law of the land. Not sure about that.

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    • Walter B October 7, 2019 at 10:52 am #

      There will be no indictments because anyone so indicted will quickly hang themselves once in the tank.

      • abbybwood October 7, 2019 at 3:01 pm #

        Speaking of people “hanging themselves” I have noticed no FBI investigation results into Epstein’s death?!

        Barr said, “We will get to the bottom of what happened.” In this lifetime or the next??

        Supposedly the investigation into Epstein and Maxwell’s pedophile racket with some of the richest and most famous men in the world is still “on-going”. Some of these men have actually written to the Manhattan prosecutor BEGGING that their names not be released.

        If Bill Clinton, Alan Dershowitz and Prince Andrew are just the tip of the iceberg, just imagine who else was involved with Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

        In the meantime, the MSM has dropped the matter like a hot potato and why hasn’t Ghislaine been arrested?

        (Not to change the subject).

        • Rulo Deschamps October 7, 2019 at 7:44 pm #

          Abby, that’s why I don’t have a lot of faith in JHK’s forecast of showers of indictments. The well connected & powerful never face the music.

  21. James Kuehl October 7, 2019 at 10:53 am #

    “The techno-industrial phase of history is ending, and we are left only with inadequate fantasies for coming to terms with it and moving forward. “

    I turn to W.H Auden for solace:

    The automobile, the aeroplane,
    Are useful gadgets, but profane:
    The enginry of which I dream
    Is moved by water or by steam.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 7, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

      In other words, Coal! The Black Gold which will sustain us until Fusion or the Kingdom Age.

  22. Loneranger October 7, 2019 at 10:55 am #

    Jim, I have been reading your blogs every week for years, and your books, too. You have been a healthy influence in my life. As for your readership diminishing (soon to be reversed), read about Gideon in the seventh chapter of Judges in the Old Testament.

  23. Q. Shtik October 7, 2019 at 11:12 am #

    Recommended for eyesore of the month:


    • San Jose October 7, 2019 at 6:24 pm #

      I hate Gehry buildings the most. And this is in Las Vegas? Rather than a place of healing, it looks like a place to fry people with metal and unrelenting desert heat.

      What does your interior decorator wife think of the now ubiquitous use of white marble and white subway tile in kitchens and baths? So boring! It will be completely out of style in four years in my opinion.

      Hope you had some motorcycling adventures this past summer?


      • BackRowHeckler October 7, 2019 at 9:30 pm #


        Did you move out of San Jose yet?


        • San Jose October 7, 2019 at 10:29 pm #

          Still working hard on spiffing up my house. Today I re-caulked all the bathroom sinks. Doing all the work myself to save money. I’m hoping to have it all ready to put on the market in a week or so. Things take longer than expected! But my yard is absolutely perfect at this point.


          • BackRowHeckler October 8, 2019 at 1:27 am #

            Good luck Jen

            I hope you get a good price for it.

            From what I read about real estate value in that area you should do OK.


      • Q. Shtik October 8, 2019 at 3:59 pm #

        the now ubiquitous use of white marble and white subway tile in kitchens – San Jose Jen


        We re-did our kitchen 10 years ago and used the white subway tile as back splash behind the sink and the gas range/stove. I have yet to grow tired of it. But if and when I do the stuff is so cheap it wouldn’t matter. If memory serves each tile was less than 20 cents.

        And, about the bike rides, see my comment at Oct 7 @ 4:02 pm

        • San Jose October 8, 2019 at 9:07 pm #

          Wow, ten years ago! That means that you guys are on the leading edge of home styles! I remodeled my kitchen in 2005 and thank my lucky stars that I chose engineered quartz rather than speckled granite, which would look dated at this point.

          Better leading edge style than lagging edge!

          Glad you are still getting around on your motorcycle.


  24. Bill October 7, 2019 at 11:17 am #

    So here is my take on this freak show. The Democrats are controlled by the rich. There isn’t any way that the Dems are going to let Bernie or Liz become the top dog. So they orchestrate this three ring circus to take the steam off of Bernie. Then Biden hops into the ring, but proves to be incompetent. So Hillary comes charging in on her great white stallion, and saves the day. The rich get their Queen, Trump goes to jail, and the final days of the oil age slide us all into oblivion.

    • Walter B October 7, 2019 at 11:20 am #

      HRC cannot be discounted until she no longer operates in this plane of existence.

      • Nightowl October 7, 2019 at 11:30 am #

        She just held a big fundraiser. I have no doubt she is crazy enough to run again.

        Those crazy bug eyes are a window to the depths of a psychotic megalomania I have rarely come across.

        Only FBI ghoul Peter Strzock has ever sent a bigger shiver down my spine.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 7, 2019 at 12:09 pm #

          Is he still dating Stroke? They should start a family: the Crazies, a modern Adams Family.

      • JustSaying October 7, 2019 at 12:30 pm #

        I like how she is still complaining about the 2016 election. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned…

        • Majella October 7, 2019 at 5:47 pm #

          Hey, even the WINNER is still complaining about the 2016 election…

      • BackRowHeckler October 7, 2019 at 1:54 pm #

        Well, on a positive note, we could bust out Sir Mix a Lot’s ‘Baby Got Back’ 2020 Hillary campaign theme song.


    • abbybwood October 7, 2019 at 3:07 pm #

      Warren is a poseur.

      If elected she would play right along with the Neocon deep state, including their war against Iran and coup in Venezuela.

      The only Democrat I would vote for in the primary would be Tulsi Gabbard and only because she is fervently anti-war and supports a Medicare for All health care system.

      • Walter B October 8, 2019 at 8:40 am #

        Glad to see that Tulsi is being noticed. Perhaps one day…..

  25. cc rider October 7, 2019 at 11:26 am #


    Oct 2, 2019

    “Attorney General Bill Barr traveled to Rome where he met with top officials

    He was accompanied by U.S. Attorney John Durham of Connecticut, who is heading the investigation of alleged FBI misconduct

    He is also reaching out to other foreign leaders in an effort to investigate the origins of the Russia probe….

    Attorney General Bill Barr is carrying out a global effort to glean information about the start of the Russia probe – and on a trip to Rome listened to a taped deposition of mysterious Maltese professor Joseph Mifsud……

    …..Malta-born Joseph Mifsud appeared to vanish after his role in the Russia probe came to light….”


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    • The New York Times has the information. You don’t have to slum it on a website that’s fondling your cookies. https://imgur.com/a/1chhq0O

      • cc rider October 7, 2019 at 3:32 pm #

        Yes the NY Times is where I first saw it. Go fondle yourself.

        • Majella October 7, 2019 at 5:50 pm #

          Really? The so-called ‘Lame Stream Media’ actually DOES report on things the RWNJs proclaim are ignored?

          • cc rider October 7, 2019 at 6:47 pm #

            I will probably get some rotten eggs thrown at me for admitting this, but I’m actually a subscriber to the NY Times. I get emails for breaking news and other news in categories I select. The story of Barr going to Italy was one of my email alerts yesterday, or maybe Saturday.

          • BackRowHeckler October 8, 2019 at 9:48 am #

            No egging cc rider.

            More often than not I bring a Sunday edition of the NYTs home with me after my shift is done.

          • Nightowl October 9, 2019 at 6:03 am #

            The complaint here is usually that they peddle lies.

            BTW, when do you provide concrete evidence for your Russian Conspiracy Theory, and for your claim that the whistleblower had first-hand information?

          • Majella October 10, 2019 at 9:12 pm #

            “BTW, when do you provide concrete evidence for your Russian Conspiracy Theory, and for your claim that the whistleblower had first-hand information?”

            Who are you asking?

  26. ellipsis October 7, 2019 at 11:31 am #

    I dunno Jim, I think that you’re singling out the shiftless Dems for a little more abuse than they’re due here. I have never given that much credit in the first place. Yes, we’re seeing a “civil war” of sorts play out here of late, but that war was declared officially as far back as 1980 with the coming of the Reagan revolution, and unofficially long before that in the wake of WWII. You’re correct of course that much of the putative wealth held by the rich or the near rich these days is ephemeral, but there’s real money all the same hiding in corporate bank and personal retirement accounts that could well be taxed away in the interim anyway in the interests of keeping the lid on the current powder keg of inequality. I suffer no illusions that that will ever happen of course, but at least mouthing the words during a political campaign is not necessarily a sign that the person mouthing them is an avowed “communist revolutionary.”

    I think a little less hysterical rhetoric is in order for all sides of what currently passes for “political debate” in the US, not that that is likely to happen anytime soon either. Our collapse is underway in earnest now and no solutions I’ve seen proposed or even remotely considered out there now will slow it in the least. That’s a hard fact that won’t be diluted by impeachment hearings, presidential beauty contests, foreign wars of imperial conquest, or the latest derivative financial products by Wall Street’s best, brightest, and greediest.

  27. volodya October 7, 2019 at 12:17 pm #

    This “Resistance” is a fraud, in the first place for appropriating the term given to those numerous forces under the fascist boot during the 1930a and 1940s and whose efforts got them arrested, tortured, shot, hung, gassed, and, in the second place, because this “Resistance” is about nothing except their own power and advantage and not one jot more. Blacks? Hispanics? Bollocks. Blacks and Hispanics make for handy stage props, their general condition getting more disastrous by the day and worse especially in places run by Democrats. Women? Get the hell outta here, women’s lives are worse than in my mother’s day notwithstanding a multi-generation gab-fest about improving their lot, that is, except for women in the managerial clerisy and who, by the way, could give a shit about women not in their societal class. Does anyone think that Hillary gave a second’s worth of consideration for anyone except White college educated women in professional and academic ranks? 

    Forget White Deplorable women, do Black and Hispanic women think that a President Hillary Clinton would have had the time of day for them? 

    I don’t judge people by what they say, I judge them by what they do, what they achieve. What has this “Resistance” achieved?

    Can you even believe that Trump won? He did. Can you even  believe that after three years of effort to bring him down that he’s still standing? He is. You have to believe your own eyes. 

    Trump is still in the White House and so, despite having the institutional armature of the Deep State at their disposal, this “Resistance” got nowhere in their self appointed task of overturning the 2016 election.   

    Never mind about this “Resistance”. What does this tell you about the power and might of this Deep State? It tells you that they are Three Stooges quality stumbling, fumbling, bumblers, maybe able to ruin the lives of bona-fide whistle-blowers, but essentially ordinary people without the resources to defend themselves. 

    But when confronted with a bigger challenge – Trump – they proved unable, promoting a farcical narrative about collusion with Russians, which made zero sense from the get-go and which came apart in an epic fuck-up of an investigation. 

    What of this latest Ukraine imbroglio? The same, going nowhere, a complete discredit to the mendacious shits behind it. 

    What these nit-wits forget is that there are people watching this clown show. And some of these watchers are serious assholes with serious power in foreign capitols who would like to supplant Americans as the world’s hegemon. These people are aggressive and resource hungry and they want their time in the sun. This joke of a “Resistance” and their preposterous Deep State backers are being measured and assessed. They might want to give that a thought. 

    • BackRowHeckler October 7, 2019 at 12:32 pm #

      What happens to “The Resistance” in socialist and communist countries? I’m not talking about E Germany or the Soviet Union in bygone days, but right now, in Venezuela, in Cuba, in NKorea, in Hong Kong? How much resistance will Dems tolerate once they get back in power?


      • volodya October 7, 2019 at 1:08 pm #

        I think it’s a question of when and not if China cracks down and then those in HK who are at the forefront, well, their lives are forfeit. Even if they’re not shot for sedition after a show-trial, they’ll spend years in terrible Chinese prisons designed to break people and destroy their health. Agnes Chung and Joshua Wong and their compadres have got balls like church-bells and they have got my undying admiration. 

        I saw a documentary about smugglers getting people out of North Korea. Again, monumental cojones, taking huge risks, something we have no idea about on this side of the globe. Same goes for those unfortunates stuck in Cuba which has got by the way a highly effective spy service. This is according to a book I read by the former head of CIA counter-intel. This I can believe, even if it comes from the CIA. So, for people there, it’s not IF you get found out. 

        When Madeline Albright talks the shit she does, warning about “fascism”, she makes me laugh. The Democrats, as much or even more than Republicans, have got the full measure of my contempt. The sight of Schiff, Pelosi, Shumer, makes me vomit. Republican rank and file at least smelled the coffee and upended a party committed to their supporters’ ruin. Anyway, to ask your question is to answer it, when they get on their high-horse and talk about threats to American democracy, I can’t think of a bigger threat than them.

    • Nightowl October 8, 2019 at 3:26 pm #

      I wish Pepsi would go back to running Resistance commercials with Kendall Jenner.

      Unfortunately, I think the big corps realized that even the slowest of the slow might figure out the truth of McResist.

  28. axisboldaslove October 7, 2019 at 1:13 pm #

    I’m one of those who have become less of a reader not because I disagree wholeheartedly with JHK but because I get tired of the rant without much in the way of solutions.

    Equally uninspiring are the comments of so many of his new armchair warriors who come on here and rail against the left, forgetting that the average person just want s to see things turn for the better, not the worse. But that would involve coming up with constructive ideas and creative thinking. Oh, forget it. It’s so ,much easier just to be pissed off. Lot of help that is. And what? Are we supposed to welcome the climate change deniers here with open arms? What next? Flat earthers?

    What’s going on here isn’t debate so much as baiting a now nearly non-existent readership seen as foe. Us against them as usual. So much ranting, so little constructive input. I guess it helps people feel better to have someone to be pissed off at and rave on about. I have more constructive things to do. See you again… maybe, but not soon.

    • volodya October 7, 2019 at 1:16 pm #

      Don’t trouble yourself, you won’t be missed.

      • axisboldaslove October 7, 2019 at 1:22 pm #

        Thank you for proving my point.

        • volodya October 7, 2019 at 1:27 pm #

          Why are you still posting?

        • Robert White October 7, 2019 at 10:19 pm #

          Castles made of sand fall into the sea eventually, Axisboldaslove.


    • Nightowl October 7, 2019 at 1:38 pm #

      I find this place tends to draw critical thinkers — intelligent individuals with high IQs who see issues from multiple angles and call things out for what they are.

      If your ideas are worthwhile, engage in debate. See if your ideas hold up. Otherwise, there are plenty of places who will spoon feed you someone’s agenda in a way you find palatable.

      • abbybwood October 7, 2019 at 3:24 pm #

        You remind me of all the websites I abandoned years ago:

        Huffington Post, Crooks and Liars, Truthdig etc. And it looks like The Intercept will be the next site I ditch.

        Honestly, I just want to read intelligent posts and comments where there is a good chance I will learn something. Trolls have infested The Intercept along with some of their Deep State journalists like Risen.

        I enjoy watching Jimmy Dore, Lionel and Styx on YouTube for analysis of current events. And cooking shows.

        • Nightowl October 7, 2019 at 3:42 pm #

          I used to visit some of those sites myself. Am also a fan of Jimmy Dore.

          The crowd here is somewhat mixed, but most everyone has something to worthwhile to share. Stick around.

        • Nightowl October 7, 2019 at 3:45 pm #

          Whoops. Misread your name (thought you were axis), but I am on the same page as you.

    • malthuss October 7, 2019 at 2:44 pm #

      Solutions to 7 billion or 8 billion people needing resources, wars, resource wars.

      The push from the left,

      gender neutral toys and clothing.
      non binary gender assignations.
      hate crime laws.
      legal infanticide.
      open borders.
      I could list 300 BIG problems.

      • abbybwood October 7, 2019 at 3:27 pm #

        Noticed the other day where there are now hundreds of transexuals who regret their re-assignment surgeries.

        Gosh, who saw this coming?

        • BackRowHeckler October 7, 2019 at 6:19 pm #


          Now those are cases of ‘too late, there’s no going back’ if there ever were any.


        • malthuss October 8, 2019 at 12:02 am #

          remember Myra Beckendridge?

          I didnt read but it was a novel about this dilemma.

      • Rulo Deschamps October 7, 2019 at 8:03 pm #

        Spot on. The 7-8 billion is the only thing that matters. Yet it cannot be mentioned. Verboten. Just finished a great book on Haiti, by P. Girard. Brace for impact. Haiti awaits us all.

        • Epicur October 8, 2019 at 11:32 am #

          “The 7-8 billion is the only thing that matters.”

          All one has to do is watch birds on a wire to understand what is going on. They squawk and peck at their neighbors until they have enough room to be comfortable. Those not able to garner some room fly to somewhere else.

          Humans not only need individual room, societies need room to practice their cultural “eccentricities”. Stripped of culture we are lost.

          The world is full and there is no place for the extras to fly. If they squawk and peck for room they are branded “haters” (at least).

          A hard rain’s a’gonna fall.

    • pokercat October 7, 2019 at 5:39 pm #

      In my opinion so many problems have such simple (not easy) answers that it makes one wonder if our politicians on both sides of every issue prefer the issue to the solution.

      For instance gun laws…don’t outlaw guns just limit their ammunition capacity to 3 rounds. Most states limit magazine capacities for hunting…..of non-human animals.

      Want to end drunk driving? Tax drinks served in restaurants and bars with the money dedicated to paying for taxi rides home and back for your car the next day. Huge fines and suspension of drivers license for violators. A smart bar owner would offer free rides and a secure parking lot to their customers anyway.

    • Ricechex October 8, 2019 at 12:04 am #

      This is classic brainwashing of the last couple of decades. If one presents a problem, one should present a solution. Like a little formula for the job. Very simple minded.

  29. RocketDoc October 7, 2019 at 2:02 pm #

    I tend to stay at home and work but this year I have traveled a lot: 5x by air. Everywhere I go is booming: Nashville, Seaside(Fl), London, Dallas, Grand Canyon, Portland,OR, Philadelphia and the planes and airports are packed with people. Old retail looks threadbare but there is a lot of new glitz everywhere. I am ashamed of my carbon footprint but I have had a good time. Randomly asking people about politics seems to elicit a fan based response rather than an issue awareness. They have a preference but don’t seem overly committed to it except to say the other side is far worse. If I ask, what do you think about another financial collapse like 2008 or the eventual collapse of industrial civilization? Puzzlement. Can’t do much about any of it.

    So this dream state we are currently experiencing will continue. It is hard to imagine everything just stopping one fine day. My Alabama hometown is exploding with Dept of Defense dollars–new construction and jobs everywhere.

    But I have another report to make. My son started medical school in Texas and we walked around Uptown Dallas all weekend–what parties in the hotels–how densely packed the restaurants–specialty stores with price tags no normal person could imagine. His freshman class has 240 students: 95% Texas residents and 5%, like him, from elsewhere. It is 50% male and female. (Other is not detailed). The dean was proud of the diversity of the new class: 45% Asian, 29% Caucasian, 17% Spanish speaking, and 8% black (other was not detailed). When I saw this I looked up the demographics of Texas: It is 75% Caucasian, 12% Black, 8% Hispanic, 2% Asian, and of course other. I watched the white coat ceremony and none of the Spanish speaking students looked mestizo Mexican–more Spanish or Argentinian. There were 8 black females and 1 black male. I calculate that 9 of 240 would be more like 4%….My son has a mentoring small group that has 3 Indians, 1 Chinese, and a native German young lady who grew up in Dallas. All very interesting extremely sharp young people. But is this good for Texas? Who am I to say? It sure is curious. How many Indians are going to get out of medical school and go to Lubbock and treat ranchers? I sat next to a very proud Chinese couple at the ceremony who when videoing their son, I asked where they lived in Texas. Dad did not speak English and demurred to his wife on the other side of him. There were a lot of sari’s in attendance…..

    I would prefer not to think of my comment as racist but by my highlighting of race, it obviously is. I may hope that collapse is 4 years down the road so he can graduate but I don’t think the financial system can hang on that long. When I mention ‘controlling’ immigration my friends say we need the workers. No, we need our children to do the work or a hard rain is going to fall soon….

    • malthuss October 7, 2019 at 2:41 pm #

      Everywhere I go is booming:

      I am laughing. Booming? Collapsing is what it is.

      • RocketDoc October 7, 2019 at 5:23 pm #

        I agree that many places and many people are worse off. I don’t doubt that a lot could be a majority. The middle class has been savaged. But if you go to downtown Austin, TX (where I have never been) you will see a veritable profusion of people doing well. If you go to a Food Bank you will some that are hard up. I am from Alabama. We have plenty of stressed towns. I was merely reporting that you can go a lot of places and feel a certain crazy conspicuous consumption. And, No, you don’t feel that in Wetumpka, AL.

        I am not laughing about it because it blinds many to what is happening…

        • Majella October 7, 2019 at 6:08 pm #

          Hey, Doc. I just google-earthed Wetumpka and took a stroll down a couple of streets. Just lovely…no fences where I went (NW Main, from the stadium east)..it looks prosperous, certainly much pride taken on their homes. Is it beset with the same panoply of woes that so many small communities report?

          • Epicur October 8, 2019 at 11:44 am #

            Wetumpka is getting overflow of well-paid government workers from the state capital (Montgomery). It is a much nicer place to live. At five o’clock in the afternoon traffic is heavy in that direction.

          • Epicur October 8, 2019 at 11:52 am #

            “I just google-earthed Wetumpka…”

            Did you notice the “astrobleme” (crater). South-southeast of town bordering highway 22. It’s about 80 million years old and a little scrunched by plate tectonics.

          • Epicur October 8, 2019 at 11:56 am #

            “South-southeast of town bordering highway 22.”

            Whoops. Google Earth has highway 9/170.

          • Majella October 8, 2019 at 7:36 pm #

            Hmmm… found the Marker Spot, on the east side of the river. I that where it is..? There doesn’t appear to be anything remarkably discernible…unless it’s at the end of the road off 22, ES Boundary Rd?

          • RocketDoc October 8, 2019 at 10:41 pm #


            I posted a reply to your query at my blog so as not to clutter the conversation. I may have said more than you wanted to hear.


          • Epicur October 9, 2019 at 9:34 am #

            Coordinates for the crater are given in Wikipedia. It is the large, mostly undeveloped area to the SE, heavily vegetated. It shows up bettor on a topo map. When you drive NE on highway 9 it is obvious that you are seeing the rim from the way the rocks are dipping on the arc that follows the road.


          • Majella October 9, 2019 at 7:32 pm #

            Hey Doc

            Thanks for that thoughtful explanation. Alabama is such a long way away, I really have little idea of how the South is doing…in fact, my only visit was in 1989 (just passing through), after a camping stay at Destin, Florida. What I remember most clearly was just how fecking HUMID it was in early May.

      • RocketDoc October 7, 2019 at 5:29 pm #

        I checked out the list. None from Alabama. We just were never rich enough to get poorer. We began poor and remain poor. My town is booming because the DOD is spending more than $1 Trillion contracting for military, missile and space equipment. I have heard that Detroit and Gary Indiana have not been doing well for 30+ years…. I don’t deny they are miserable.

    • Epicur October 8, 2019 at 11:40 am #

      Our formula for a booming economy is simple, just print money and pour it on some place until it flows to all the nooks and crannies.

      What could possibly go wrong?

  30. Robert White October 7, 2019 at 2:04 pm #

    I gravitate towards the kind of honest writing that is demonstrated amply today, JHK. I fully agree with your political views vis-à-vis left & right propaganda. I fully back the attempts of the deep state to frag The Duck in time for Thanksgiving diner though I understand why you hold them in contempt.

    Sometimes I really wonder about all the detractors that think they can dump their own bias off onto your blog, Jim. I can see how you are roiling over process issues, and I can also see the left doing the same.

    Clusterfuck Nation was a damn good name choice for your blog, Jim.

    I, for one, appreciate the way you are focused, and what you write each week.

    Keep up the good work!


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  31. messianicdruid October 7, 2019 at 2:29 pm #

    Maxine Waters’ declaration of war:


    Waters finished with a call to action: “If you see anybody from that [Trump] cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. You push back on them. Tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere!”

    The Karma Whine:


    Maxine Waters, during an interview on MSNBC, claimed President Trump is trying to incite a Civil War and “setting some of us up to be killed….”

    The California Democrat, who spent the better part of the last three years calling on her supporters to harass Republicans in public spaces, also complained that Trump’s rhetoric is making visits to the grocery store difficult.

    “I mean, I can’t go to the grocery store anymore by myself,” alleged Waters. “I have to pay for security all the time. I can’t move around the country without security.”

    Before you declare war, count the cost.

  32. malthuss October 7, 2019 at 2:50 pm #

    Volodya sez,

    Forget White Deplorable women, do Black and Hispanic women think that a President Hillary Clinton would have had the time of day for them?

    I get that many choose either left or right and think that the elected officials on their side DO care about Leonas little people.
    They do think Hillary cares about them.

    Janos would probably say Black women just want free stuff from the Dems.
    There is an all too eerie clip on youtube from 11 years or so ago.
    Black woman saying BHO was elected and its the happiest
    day of her life. HE WILL PAY MY BILLS.


    I kid you not.

    • Exscotticus October 7, 2019 at 6:00 pm #

      Who can forget the “youth” who threatened Trump on YT if he stopped his mom’s welfare payments?

      That’s Dem Country.

  33. RWicks October 7, 2019 at 2:53 pm #

    I think people are missing the point as to why there has been a 2 1/2 year attempt at a coup.

    The government, the intelligence agencies, the department of justice, and our media, are extremely corrupt. They are pulling out all the stops because they are extremely corrupt. Corrupt enough to spend their rest of their lives in jail, to be stripped off all their assets, and perhaps in some cases, to be executed.

    Normally it doesn’t matter who is prezdident meat puppet, they do as their are told, and they reap the rewards. Trump might be the first real president since 1988, perhaps longer.

    What I suspect we are witnessing isn’t a war between the riff-raff (i.e. us), but between the factions that have real power within our government. If you recall the purges of judges, intelligence officers, military men, and even the media from the 1990’s up until Obama’s term, I think that’s where the struggle lies.

    Drain the swamp at this point, you end up with a parking lot.

  34. Helen Highwater October 7, 2019 at 2:59 pm #

    It seems to me that the “Right” has been just as eager to tell people what they can and cannot do as the “Left” has been, and just as uninterested in truth. Who said nobody could ever smoke a joint, for instance? Who tries to prevent women from getting an abortion if they want to? Who said gay people couldn’t marry or be in the armed forces? Who started a war in Iraq based on a lie? In my lifetime it’s always been the “Left” that tried to prevent these things from happening.

    • BackRowHeckler October 7, 2019 at 3:13 pm #

      “Who said gay people couldn’t marry”

      Mohammed, that’s who.


      • elysianfield October 7, 2019 at 6:50 pm #

        “Mohammed, that’s who.”

        …Peace be unto him….

        • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 1:09 pm #

          He was right about women.

    • RWicks October 7, 2019 at 3:28 pm #

      “It seems to me that the “Right” has been just as eager to tell people what they can and cannot do as the “Left” has been, and just as uninterested in truth.”

      Give me a break. Most people have to shovel people into one group or another, because they only can think in terms of dichotomy.

      When I was against the stupid Iraq War that George W. Bush lied us into (and Hillary Clinton voted for, when she was a Jr. Senator), I was “left”.

      When I was against Obama blowing up Libya “to prevent a humanitarian crisis” and blowing up Syria “really – so he could bring to fruition a deal Genie Energy made with Israel to mine the oil resources of the Golan Heights”, I was “right”.

      Today, because I don’t support a coup attempted by a bunch of obvious criminals, a criminal intelligence apparatus, a complicit corrupt “news” media, a department of justice that engages in obvious selective prosecution, I am again apparent “right”.

      People who place themselves in groups don’t think, they just follow in my experience.

      There’s no rhyme or reason to either the ideology of “the left” or “the right”. They’re simply too weak to actually have principles, so they just assign themselves to a party – usually the party their parents were in.

    • lbs October 7, 2019 at 3:33 pm #

      Helen: the establishment left is going up on regime change wars. That’s 80-90% of “progressives” in the Democratic Party, the establishment left media (NYT, WP, CNN, MSNBC, etc). The populist right is much more against war than the establishment left. There are only a few voices on the left who are antiwar. E.g. Tulsi Gabbard, Jimmy Dore. They are considered pariahs by the Democratic Party and media. As an example of pro war leftist media, Jimmy Do re joked that Mother Jones appears to be owned by the CIA.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 7, 2019 at 11:34 pm #

      What a childish idea of freedom you have. Yeah, why not just go the bathroom whenever you have the urge too?

      • GreenAlba October 9, 2019 at 5:54 pm #

        “Yeah, why not just go the bathroom whenever you have the urge too?”

        I had to read that 3 times before the penny dropped. Like bathrooms were rationed or something. Do adult Americans really say this? The anti-PC folks? Goodness.

  35. JohnAZ October 7, 2019 at 3:08 pm #

    Just read the Ukrainian transcript.

    Three points

    The conversation sounded like a couple of old boys slapping each other on the back.

    I wish Trump had not identified Biden but just corrupt Americans.

    Mention of Crowdstrike and the server. Looked it up Crowdstrike is the cyber outfit that IDed two sources in Russia to be the sources of hacking of the DNC. The server is a missing server with the missing HRC data base on it. This sounds like a request to continue on with the start up of the Mueller debacle with a request to allow Rudy and Barr to participate in it. Interesting point, another cyber hot shot in the US proved that the hacking could not have occurred from outside the US. I’ll bet Seth Rich is rolling in his grave.

    Maybe this is what has got the Dems in an uproar.

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    • JohnAZ October 7, 2019 at 3:08 pm #

      Please add info as known.

      • Majella October 10, 2019 at 9:16 pm #

        It was an edited transcript, built from notes made at the time. The conversation was supposed for 30 minutes, but that conversation reads like about 15 minutes. Why can’t we just hear the actual TAPE? (No prizes for guessing why not…)

        • benr October 11, 2019 at 9:25 am #

          Because it is none of your business.

    • Exscotticus October 7, 2019 at 5:51 pm #

      But was there Bidenesque quid pro quo?

      • benr October 7, 2019 at 8:11 pm #

        No plain and simple no.

    • Nightowl October 8, 2019 at 9:24 am #

      I disagree. It was not only perfectly legal to identify Biden, it was imperative to bring it up.

      The Biden scandal is directly tied to national security and the investigation into Biden was not initiated by the president, as the Ukraine was already investigating

      Many also believe that the reason Biden is running for president, is to shield himself from charges. Given his performances of late, and how utterly mentally unstable he appears, I can’t think of any other reason why he would continue in the race.

      • benr October 8, 2019 at 4:35 pm #

        Most mentally ill people or people going through spates of demantia and Alzheimer’s don’t realize it.
        Just look at Democrats they really don’t know how mentally ill they appear.

  36. BackRowHeckler October 7, 2019 at 3:08 pm #

    C40 Climate Change Summit, Copenhagen, Oct 11 — Oct 18, 2019

    AOC to give the keynote address.

    Let’s see Climate Change Summit in Vienna, July 2019, NYC Sept 2019, Copengahen Oct 2019. That’s 3 Climate Change Summits in 4 months, top people flying in from all points on earth. At the event itself it must be a good time tho for these luminaries, 1st class accommodations, the best foods, top shelf scotch, wines flown in directly from Champaign Valley in France. Of course it’s all free, why shouldn’t it be? after all these people are doing the important work of Saving the World. And there’s plenty of hooking up, too, don’t think there ain’t. More than one of those Climate Change Nerds has designs on AOC IMHO.


    • JohnAZ October 7, 2019 at 3:11 pm #

      The proof of the politics of this is the fact an proven ignorant person like AOC is giving the keynote address.

      These people are making the legitimate GW problem a joke.

      • BackRowHeckler October 7, 2019 at 3:26 pm #

        These f#kkers are in Copenhagen living it up in 5 star hotels, sipping chablis and riding around in limos, at the same time cooking up ways to take away your Ford 150 and the heating oil that keeps your house warm in the winter. They’re also hammering ‘the rich’, but who in the world lives in more luxury than attendees of International Climate Change Conferences?


      • RWicks October 7, 2019 at 4:21 pm #

        “These people are making the legitimate GW problem a joke.”

        If the problem is legitimate, point to a prediction that either NASA, the UN, or the US government has made, that actually came to pass…

        I’m an electrical engineer pushing 50. I was very interested i science even since I was a little kid and in the mid 1980’s I became aware of “the problem”.

        LA isn’t under water, nor is NY, or LA. The ice caps haven’t melted, we still have snow. Storm frequency has NOT increased, the Midwest used to commonly flood in the 1980s.

        Here, you want to see something hilarious?


        60 Minutes Australia is claiming that islands are sinking due to Climate Change, but it’s strange, as it’s only effecting islands in certain areas and the ocean rises in other areas. It’s almost as if… The islands themselves are sinking..

        Which obviously they are.

        This is the kind of nonsense that is being peddled.

        I remember when it was claimed the Arctic was ice free one year, I think that was around 2007. It was a complete lie. Polar bears are migrating south, remember that one? Great Britain would never see snow again..

        I’m no longer a believer.

        • stelmosfire October 7, 2019 at 9:32 pm #

          Rwicks, I’ve been plowing snow in NE since ’75. 44 years.I keep a log. We had years in the ’80s with 1 plow-able storm. We had years in the ’90s with 20 storms. We had a storm on Halloween in 2011 with 30 inches. Up the road they had a 20 inch storm on Mothers day May 8 .Climate is as climate does. Credit to Forrest Gump. Climate change my ass.

          • stelmosfire October 7, 2019 at 9:44 pm #

            Mother Earth rules and bats last. PERIOD…

          • MontanaMan October 8, 2019 at 7:55 am #

            Excellent Comment!!! Bravo ? BRAVO ?

          • GreenAlba October 8, 2019 at 3:07 pm #

            Oh dear. Someone else who confuses Global Warming with Warming in My Back Yard.

            Don’t worry. You’re not alone in that. At this stage explaining is probably a lost cause.

          • benr October 8, 2019 at 4:39 pm #


            Oh dear someone who does not understand that his back yard is part of the Climate!
            Shame really you have bought into this crap hook line and sinker.
            What are you going to do when 12 years from now the ocean is exactly where it is now and nothing has really changed?
            Will you admit you have been not only duped but a useful tool for the furtherance of the UN Agenda 21 which is what all this climate hysteria is really about!

          • GreenAlba October 8, 2019 at 7:29 pm #


            “Oh dear someone who does not understand that his back yard is part of the Climate!”

            I don’t get your point. AGW is about the rise in global average temperatures. Global averages. Sometimes you will get extremes of cold that you’re not used to, for example because of movements in the jet stream. That isn’t inconsistent with global warming – in fact it’s what was predicted.

            There are a bunch of people elsewhere on this board discussing their unaccustomed droughts. I didn’t jump on that either and interpret it as proof of AGW, although, again, it’s what was predicted. Like I said, it’s the global averages that matter.

            “What are you going to do when 12 years from now the ocean is exactly where it is now and nothing has really changed?”

            I’m not going to do anything in 12 years’ time because you’ve never heard me say at any point that something earth-shattering is going to happen in 12 years. In fact you’ve heard me say that’s nonsense.

            Please don’t confuse me with sloganeers and purveyors of publicity stunts, benr. As I’ve also said before, the window of opportunity during which we may be able to do something to mitigate the worst of AGW is narrowing all the time. I don’t know how wide it is, but it’s narrowing. It doesn’t matter whether it’s 12 years or 30 years – the same people will still be bellowing the same obfuscatory nonsense. Maybe we won’t be willing or able to do anything, but that doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

        • GreenAlba October 8, 2019 at 3:11 pm #

          “60 Minutes Australia is claiming that islands are sinking due to Climate Change, but it’s strange, as it’s only effecting islands in certain areas and the ocean rises in other areas. It’s almost as if… The islands themselves are sinking..”

          It’s almost as if land still shifts in different places. Gosh. Who knew? Scotland is slowly rising, while the south-east of England is slowly sinking, due to the long-term bounce effect of melting ice after the last Ice Age. Doesn’t mean AGW isn’t a thing, unless you aren’t capable of accommodating two ideas in your head at once. Which does unfortunately seem to be the case for an awful lot of people.

          • benr October 8, 2019 at 4:45 pm #

            Actually the islands sinking has more to do with how much ocean sand is being pumped out and used for cement by developing countries like China.


            There are also areas sinking as a result of water tables being pumped out and not replaced like the Los Angeles basin which again has to do with population and not climate change!


          • GreenAlba October 8, 2019 at 7:16 pm #

            I don’t doubt it, benr. I didn’t look into that specific example. I was just pointing out that land moves up and down as well, so that an increase in the volume of water in the oceans won’t be measured in the same way at every geographical location.

            That doesn’t mean the level of the ocean isn’t rising overall. Where would the melting ice be going? It’s rising very, very slowly. But it’s rising. If you’re convinced it’s not, why not invest in some real estate right down by the beach in Florida? Or East Anglia. As I have mentioned before, my in-laws in Stony Point, NY have a house with the date 1834 on it. They’ve seen storm surges and floods, as have their neighbours, but since the last two events all their neighbours in their stretch of road along the Hudson have had their houses condemned and theirs is going to have to be raised in order to get flood insurance. A small rise in sea level causes a huge increase in the force of a storm surge.

            I’m lucky – I don’t live on a flood plain or by the coast, so the worst I get is the spring that bubbles under my road occasionally breaking through the tarmac or the drains overflow a bit in the gutters. But I have other friends and relatives whose towns are getting more frequent and intense floods.

        • GreenAlba October 8, 2019 at 3:12 pm #

          “I remember when it was claimed the Arctic was ice free one year, I think that was around 2007. It was a complete lie. Polar bears are migrating south, remember that one? Great Britain would never see snow again..

          I’m no longer a believer.”

          Perhaps you should just start reading serious science instead of the dafter corners of the internet?

          • benr October 8, 2019 at 4:46 pm #


            Not the dafter corners of the internet these are main stream stories.

          • GreenAlba October 8, 2019 at 7:03 pm #


            Mainstream stories in newspapers aren’t science. You’ll find those in reputable scientific journals or websites – try the Royal Society, for example.

  37. lbs October 7, 2019 at 3:24 pm #

    Excellent essay by Kunstler. Regarding the Democrats dismembering our system of government, I would add the point that another mechanism they are using in pursuit of that is to legalize election fraud. The most brazen example being legalized “ballot harvesting” in California.

  38. lbs October 7, 2019 at 3:37 pm #

    I apologize for my Kindle. First sentence should read: Establishment Left supports regime change wars.

    • RWicks October 7, 2019 at 4:31 pm #

      It’s not the establishment left.

      It’s just the establishment.

      They support all wars. Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Venezuela, Iran.

      Hmm, it started to break down with Venezuela. Maybe Trump IS the peace president. Time will tell and here’s to hope.

  39. budizwiser October 7, 2019 at 3:59 pm #

    Really James, I think you protest too much.

    So the new style of “reality political theater” is a bit too much to swallow?

    What’s the point of your howling? The rich have concocted a rather fresh set of circus acts – and you seem to take it all very seriously.

    Yes of course, we [ this reader ] understands that you can see political intrigue where the masses see normalcy. After all on TV the FBI and the rest are generally seen as the “good guys.”

    And during the last election approximately 56 million Americans thought having the government “get fired” was a good idea.

    So – just who is the audience for your ranting? Quit stating the obvious, its beneath your ability as a journalist and lessens your credibility when you do work hard and author an insightful literary gem of an essay.

    • RWicks October 7, 2019 at 4:35 pm #

      “The rich have concocted a rather fresh set of circus acts – and you seem to take it all very seriously.”

      Are you certain.

      Where’s the Iran Circus act? Didn’t Iran use limpet mines twice and bomb Saudi Arabia’s oil facility? Aren’t we supposed to get a spectacle after just one false flag, not 3?

      Whatever happened to Juan Guano of Venezuela? Weren’t we suppose to spectacle there?

      Remember North Korea? Wasn’t that supposed to lead to a fireworks display?

      I’m not saying it’s so, but it’s possible, JUST possible, that the circus left town and the clowns don’t realize yet, it’s really left.

  40. Q. Shtik October 7, 2019 at 4:02 pm #

    How Jim keeps track of all the players in this political saga is beyond me. I grow weary of it. And so to escape I took off on a mini-bike trip on Saturday and returned by 7PM last night.

    Here’s the thing about bike trips, you can’t just start driving with nowhere particular in mind to go. You have to have a destination and a purpose. For this trip mine was Dover International Speedway in Delaware. First stop was a brand new Holiday Inn Express in Middletown, DE. Very nice… indoor pool, fitness center (I did a mini-workout) and breakfast included. They let me park my bike in a handicap spot near the front door which was also visible from my room on the second floor so I felt ‘my ride’ was secure.

    I got up Sunday AM and drove the remaining 25 miles to the Speedway where the big event was the “Drydene 400” NASCAR race. All day I wondered ‘what is Drydene?’ Do any of you know without doing a Google search? Well, it’s a family of lubricant products that I had never heard of.

    I made a similar trip last year to a NASCAR event in Martinsville, VA. The one yesterday will probably be my last.

    As you might guess the average adult race fan, whether male or female, is white, tattooed and seriously overweight. Virtually everyone carries into the venue the maximum allowable size cooler (14×14) or even larger. The staff doesn’t seem to bust balls over coolers. You are not likely to run into these folks at the opera or ballet.

    I read conflicting numbers as to the track’s seating capacity, namely 85,000 and 95,500 but in any case I’d estimate it was only 60% full yesterday, if that. Couldn’t find actual numbers online but it is clear NASCAR is suffering an attendance slump in general.

    Perhaps people were noticing what I noticed, being a NASCAR fan is an expensive hobby and is a strange “sport” to begin with. Men putting their lives at risk driving at high speeds while turning left for hours on end in deafening noise. Every fan has the common sense to squeeze spongy rubber plugs into their ears and/or to wear a noise suppression headset. I did both.

    The lead-up to the race itself is IMHO a failed attempt to gin up excitement and enthusiasm. As at many sporting events there is a great thanking and groveling at the feet of the military. There was a fly over of four F-18 jets in formation, the swearing in en masse of 25 or so new members to the Air Force, brief speeches from 2 camo-clad high ranking officers, one of whom was introduced as Major ‘Ginrul’ so and so.

    Thirty eight cars started the race. One by one the drivers were introduced as they emerged from a doorway, walked down some stairs and passed along a line of dignitaries shaking their hands. For each one the MC screamed into his mike an introduction, trying his best to hype the show. Each intro ended with the words “Now let’s give it up for (fill in driver’s name).” For the rest of the day including the ride home I couldn’t get it out of my head what a stupid expression let’s give it up for is. The days of ‘a round of applause’ have apparently ended.

    To sum up, any future bike trips I do will be to places free of crowds and free of events, per se, especially on weekends where you can expect to pay room rates at least double what they would be on a weekday. Next up, I’m thinking, will be a ride on the roadway known as ‘the tail of the dragon.” Google it.

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    • Robert White October 7, 2019 at 5:00 pm #

      NASCAR used to be fun until regulated speed was instituted. I prefer Top Fuel Drag Racing 1/4 mile given Nitro-Methane & horse power relationship. I attended the summer Grand Nationals in Montreal back in the 70s and saw Muldowney take the win. After that racing was never the same for any class except Top Fuel.

      I used to have a 650cc BSA 1970 Thunderbolt & a 1970 Triumph Tiger 500cc.

      British bikes are fun.


      • benr October 7, 2019 at 8:21 pm #

        We have a small track here in San Diego on the Barona indian reservation that has a nitro night which can be real fun.


        • Robert White October 7, 2019 at 10:39 pm #

          Small tracks are fun too. I signed up to their email list on the link. If I lived there I would be a regular.


          • benr October 8, 2019 at 4:48 pm #

            Come on down I got cold beer for you if you do.

    • pokercat October 7, 2019 at 5:58 pm #

      Although beautiful and a fun drive the “Dragon” can be as packed as any expressway on a Monday morning depending on the time of year and which day of the week.

      Mid-summer mid-week should be least crowded. In late Fall after the trees have shed their leaves most traffic will disappear also.

    • elysianfield October 7, 2019 at 6:56 pm #

      “what a stupid expression let’s give it up”

      The only time I recall having said that is while begging for mercy sex….

    • stelmosfire October 7, 2019 at 9:53 pm #

      Most excellent story Q. Keep on the scoot and stay young my friend!.

      • stelmosfire October 7, 2019 at 9:57 pm #

        129 yea

        • stelmosfire October 7, 2019 at 9:58 pm #

          do it at 6am in june

          • stelmosfire October 7, 2019 at 9:59 pm #

            on an airhead

      • Q. Shtik October 8, 2019 at 12:05 am #

        Most excellent story Q. – stelmo


        Thanks for the kind words stelmo and others

  41. 100th Avatar October 7, 2019 at 4:09 pm #

    Excellent piece. Boiling things down, Americans are left without a choice in a 2 party system. The issue at hand is that if one of the parties go down, the system collapses.

    The Democratic party is in an existential crisis. The DNC and its last administration are/were involved in so much blatant and shameless corruption from the comparably benign fixing of the 2016 ticket to the extortion of Ukrainian assets physical/mineral/financial in return for protections of both the diplomatic and militaristic variety against the nemesis of the new world order: Putin.
    They cannot, and the deep state cannot, believe the party, and the broken system can survive the country’s first token black president being exposed as common craven criminals, nor the party of the little guys and progressive thinking as nothing more than a money making shakedown racket run by sociopathic career politicians.

    This makes it no different than the republican party, except now, all the simpletons and dullards that believe the 2 party system has something on offer for the little guy will FINALLY wise-up.

    The system and state will not support a multi-party system. We have 2 warring gangs in place that are united in only the idea that only they will spar for control.

    Yet, as good lemmings, ever 4 years the dimwit voters run from the hands of one party into the arms of the other. The metronome, back and forth, making ‘murcia tick.

    • 100th Avatar October 7, 2019 at 4:20 pm #

      ‘murica tick… like a time-bomb.

  42. Pucker October 7, 2019 at 5:14 pm #

    According to a book that I’m now reading about Robert E. Lee, in 1861 people were taken aback and dumbfounded by the lightning speed at which events took place and things unraveled. What was the name of that crazy bloke with long blond hair who fired on Fort Sumter? Ruffin? Sounds like “Ruffian”? And then everyone moved to the extremes and/or according to “loyalties”, the principal loyalties being local loyalties, to places, clan networks, and states since at that time Americans did not really have a National Consciousness. People thought of themselves as Pennsylvanians, as Georgians, as Virginians, etc. This is why armies were named according to States. For example, the Army of Pennsylvania, the Army of Northern Virginia. The Southerners largely coalesced around local loyalties and to prevent armed invasion from the crazy, money-grubbing Yankees from the North. There may not even be a National Conscious today, and people may now coalesce around “Identities”, which is very tribal and primitive.

    • messianicdruid October 8, 2019 at 12:13 am #

      The United States is a country, not a nation.

    • 100th Avatar October 8, 2019 at 6:14 am #

      A nation calls on identity, yet you prefer that over a country which is some arbitrary collective united by.. government?

      Humans are primitive and tribal.
      Denying human nature is what has brought us to the precipice.

      The US would be better served with smaller independent states and, the horror, nations.

      • Nightowl October 8, 2019 at 9:37 am #

        There is more to it than that. The end aim of the globlist crowd is to dissolve nation states and centralize government so they can pillage the globe free of restraints.

        The most disturbing part of the dystopia that awaits is that if you don’t like having a social credit score and having all of your monetary assets reside in the digital realm (where they can be taken from you at the push of a button), you have nowhere to go.

        I sometimes think people don’t understand where this is all headed. It is a system of full-spectrum control.

        • benr October 8, 2019 at 4:49 pm #

          Full Spectrum dominance.

          • Nightowl October 9, 2019 at 5:48 am #

            That is the military term, yes.

      • 100th Avatar October 8, 2019 at 11:00 am #

        Deliberation, debate, and (supposed) democracy takes too long to address the symptoms that are doing us in now.

        Climate, water, poverty, finance, war, migration.
        All brought to earth’s denizens by human overpopulation.
        And human avarice.

        The moment calls for a command presence.
        Executive decisions.

        Through thought/opinion control they can steer everyone to their objectives more quickly.
        Meat bad. Guns bad. CO2 bad. Flying bad.
        At least for the poor majority.

        Abstainers will be vilified and shunned and debased.

        I much prefer the AI overlord scenario.
        Less capricious

        • Janos Skorenzy October 9, 2019 at 12:37 am #

          What can Gort do, she asks. He’s just a robot.
          Klatu replies, Gort can destroy the Earth.

          He’s one of their robot policemen. It’s not a perfect system, he says, but it works. Oh really, Klatu? How many planets have Gort and Co destroyed incorrectly or by mistake?

  43. Pucker October 7, 2019 at 5:18 pm #

    I recently saw the movie “Joker” in Hong Kong.

    Joaquin Phoenix’s acting is stellar, riveting. People literally identify with the Joker, which is a weird, bizarre cultural phenomenon. It’s particularly disturbing to Hong Kong audiences now because of all of the protests and civil disruptions now ongoing in Hong Kong, which is uncanny.


  44. Pucker October 7, 2019 at 5:29 pm #

    Like JHK, I too resent the current American culture of dishonesty. The Americans seem to confuse dishonesty with cleverness. It’s not clever. No one wants to be around people who don’t play by the rules. No one wants to watch a football game wherein the referees always rule against your team because the head referee’s kid (Hunter Biden) plays for the opposing team. It may be a reflection of the pervasive system of rackets brought about by the collapse of the Market and declining rates of profitability? Since people can’t make a profit honestly anymore, they resort to monopoly, extortion, and fraud?

    • Robert White October 7, 2019 at 10:52 pm #

      Watch _All the King’s Men_ with Broderick Crawford. The story never changes in the USA electoral gambits. Please watch the movie so that you can remember that classic portrait of a politician turned to ruin via thirst for power in the classic character of Willy Stark.

      Broderick Crawford is the best of the best, ever.


      • BackRowHeckler October 7, 2019 at 11:12 pm #

        How about the Canadian electoral gambit? Does anything change there?

        • Robert White October 8, 2019 at 11:22 am #

          Nothing ever changes in Canada except the politicians and their paycheques. Legislation & the legislatures are far too encumbered by the snails pace of change to actually effect change.

          It’s the same old whine in a new bottle with a different label.


  45. Pucker October 7, 2019 at 5:52 pm #

    I still think that it’s Weird that a huge swath of the American TV watching audience thinks that Trump is a Russian mole. Since basically all that they know is gleaned from the TV, they surely must know that Trump was a TV personality who was the weirdo spouting the one-liner (“You’re fired!”) on that 1990’s hit TV show “The Apprentice”. But maybe they don’t have any long term memory? Maybe they can only count on their fingers?

    Should Trump be impeached for being a Reality TV show host in “The Apprentice”, and humiliating the contestants on prime time nationwide TV week-after-week?

    Trump: “But Melissa, you didn’t get the Price Point right. Zolef got it right, but you screwed it up. Maybe you should go? Maybe I should ask the other women on your team who resent your good looks whether you should go? Should I do that Melissa?”

    Melissa: “It’s not my fault, Mr. Trump. It was Jane who is jealous of me. She hates me Mr. Trump, and she deliberately fucked up the calculation of the Price Point just to spite me.”

    Trump: “Did you do that Jane?”

    Jane: “No I didn’t Mr. Trump.”

    Trump: “Jane says that she didn’t do that, Melissa. You’re fired.”

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    • Majella October 7, 2019 at 7:32 pm #

      He displays the same deeply critical thinking in foreign policy too. What an asset to the country!

      • Pucker October 7, 2019 at 9:49 pm #

        But, on the other hand, it does seem to be some kind of accountability. I don’t see much accountability in Washington, DC these days….

        • Majella October 7, 2019 at 10:46 pm #

          “Mr. Putin told me he didn’t do it. I believe him.”

      • Nightowl October 8, 2019 at 9:39 am #

        IMO, he does, actually. And I have two degrees from a top tier college in political science and international relations.


        • Majella October 9, 2019 at 7:38 pm #

          Run for president, then. Please!

  46. Frank October 7, 2019 at 5:54 pm #


    Forget the emails that you receive critizing your work. I think that you’re doing a fine job of seperating the wheat from the chaffe as they say. You should be proud of yourself, please keep up the exceptional work.

    Your Friend in New Orleans,

  47. I’ll be the first to say that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but in the case of a CIA coup, I’ll just state that I have my reservations.

    Even to a layperson, Trump is a threat to national security.

    As I understand little, but Trump has impeached himself with his own words.

    Trump could order Barr to serve warrants and indict all sorts of people to attempt to discredit the process and there will be plenty on the sideline screaming that it was the Dems, the “deep state”, the CIA, etc. but this won’t change the procedural reality.

    Pelosi will grab Trump, one hand on the collar, and one hand on the balls, and mop the floor of the House with him. She’s going to use his own words against him in an epic confrontation.

    After that it is a short showing of hands in the Senate and it will be over before anyone can think twice, a ceremony few will remember.

    Pence will mollify the public with pablum, and Trump, Inc. will relapse into its former self, working through a pile of litigation stretching from one end of Manhattan to the other.

    • RIB October 7, 2019 at 6:54 pm #

      Forget your meds today snacks?

    • BackRowHeckler October 7, 2019 at 7:25 pm #

      Was in a MacDonalds for coffee this morning, watched a bit of CNN, 20 minutes straight of breathless reporting on impeachment proceedings. The New Yorker, the NYTs, Atlantic Monthly, MSNBC, CNN, wall to wall ‘whistleblower’, content, presented like its Watergate 1973 … but we got the same bullsh#t just a few months ago with the Russia Collusion hoax, nobody seems to be buying this sh#t anymore.


    • MontanaMan October 8, 2019 at 7:50 am #

      Keep dreaming your “Extreme far left” idiotic dreams lol lol, sport.

    • cc rider October 9, 2019 at 10:30 am #

      Pablum. Yes. You know all about pablum, being both a feaster onand puker of.

  48. Pucker October 7, 2019 at 6:19 pm #

    It’s all about coercion…and money….


    Spock’s 12 year old nephew (who looks exactly like Beto) eventually realizes that if he just pretends to be interested in people and to listen to their bullshit, and then pretends to sincerely and earnestly parrot their bullshit, that he can then bum money off of them since at least one third of them are Nuts. For example, he learns that he can get a fiver or a tenner from a group of insane women if he tells them that it’s their fundamental human right to be able to abort their kids after birth. He learns that if he can just get media attention, then he can get money. So he spouts outrageous, inflammatory ideas and perpetrates outrageous media stunts. He learns that since women are emotional that all he has to do is to appeal to emotion by telling stories about kids suffering in cages, or in shootings. Spock’s 12 year old nephew rides around on his skateboard leaving scuff marks all over the walls and floors. Spock’s 12 year old nephew steals money out of Spock’s wallet and acts indignant and hurt when Spock protests and then lectures Spock about White Privilege.

  49. Pucker October 7, 2019 at 6:32 pm #


    “There is now a lot of uncertainty.”

    We now have a Culture of Dissembling.

    Definition of dissemble
    transitive verb
    1 : to hide under a false appearance
    dissembling the facts
    2 : to put on the appearance of : SIMULATE
    She lay down and dissembled sleep.
    intransitive verb
    : to put on a false appearance : conceal facts, intentions, or feelings under some pretense
    He had dissembled about the risks involved.

  50. I mediated on the terms de jure and de facto yesterday, when it comes to what the law process recognizes, there is not one category of “fact”, but two.

    A natural fact and a fact that is classified as a fact because it is accepted as true, are both facts in the eyes of the law. Both types of facts have equivalent value in terms of law, and are subject to the law process, which can change the status of claims of fact, eg., a “de jure” fact can be devolve or evolve, and natural, “de facto” facts tend to be things that are likely to endure, as matters of natural history.

    Evaluate the following and determine which type of claim of fact each are making:

    “Donald Trump is President”

    “Nancy Pelosi is a member of the House”

    “Trump solicited China to investigate his political opponent.”

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    • benr October 7, 2019 at 8:28 pm #

      Fact: Mark Levin is a Constitutional lawyer and he says all this is a load of crap and that the Democrats are trying to play slight of hand to turn peoples attentions away from the fact they have been trying to stage a coup to oust Trump from day 1.

      • sprawlcapital October 7, 2019 at 10:58 pm #

        slight [sleight] of hand

      • Two wrongs don’t make a right, even if you could prove one or the other.

        Levin is a agent prevaricator in this sense. Such an opinion might fly outside a courtroom, but when the inquisition comes the questions will be narrow, and on point. Did he say X? What did he mean by X?

        Y will not be relevant.

        • BackRowHeckler October 8, 2019 at 1:51 am #

          Snacks, did you participate any of the Climate Extinction street disturbances yesterday? Entire cities shut down by people who ostensibly want the govt to do something about the weather. Plenty of street theater, but also the threat of violence from anti world thugs on the march. Odd thing, only white western cities were targeted; nobody shutting down Calcutta, Beijing or Jakarta (half of humanity) Climate Extinction wasn’t raising hell in Moscow, shutting down traffic and inconveniencing honest people. Moscow is the center of the largest coal and oil producers on the planet, China is building a coal fired power plant every week; instead, the mobs target Picadilly Circus in London.


      • elysianfield October 7, 2019 at 11:37 pm #

        Fact: Mark Levin is a Constitutional lawyer


        Lawyers say a lot of things…whenever two of them meet in a courtroom…one of either’s argument is judged as incorrect….

        • benr October 8, 2019 at 4:58 pm #

          Hah court is far different than voicing your opinion and basing it on law and fact to millions of people.
          As far as the Constitution goes Mark Levin is brilliant he could shred any leftwing pundit on air at any time even Mr. Burgess!

      • Janos Skorenzy October 7, 2019 at 11:43 pm #

        He is also not Clan and wants some kind of Talmudic reset of the Constitution.

        • benr October 8, 2019 at 4:54 pm #

          Listened to him for years and not once has he mentioned the talmude.
          Israel yes so what not every Jew is as horrible as you imagine them to be.
          He has always been a straight shooter and honest in his assessment of what is Constitutional and what is not.

  51. Sam Vimes October 7, 2019 at 8:27 pm #

    A wonderfully cogent take on these issues, sir. While the US may be the political epicenter of the despotic leftist (fauxcialist) takeover of what is acceptable thought, speech or ideology, using whatever nefarious means they can through their vice grip on academe, the MSM and social media, the self-same symptoms and ructions are being experienced throughout the anglo world. Here in Australia, the manipulation and fabrication of information and news by our media and political “betters” is creating enmity and bitterness amongst the silent majority, and only emboldening the very vocal minority of activist fauxcialist types intent on desconstructing everything and replacing it with whatever politically correct narrative is popular that week.

  52. capt spaulding October 7, 2019 at 9:15 pm #

    I just read the news story about Trump’s decision to abandon the Kurds to the Turks in Northern Syria. It’s a surprise, but it’s not surprising that he has done that. He has a history of turning his back on people who fought for him, once they’re no longer useful. This is just another example of why I detest this man. He has no sense of honor, appreciation, or gratitude. These people died helping us fight ISIS, and now that we won, he doesn’t need them any more, so he hands them over to the Turks. For what gain, I don’t know. All I can say is all you MAGA hat wearing dudes out there need to pay attention, as Trump proceeds to show you what it takes to Make America Great Again. Do you really think we will be trusted by any other country in the world after a stunt like this? Trump is a madman in every sense of the word, and his supporters STILL won’t admit that they screwed up when they voted for him. We let an idiot run the country for eight years (“W”), and now we’ve given it over to a madman. If he wins, I guess we’ll be able to find out what it really takes to destroy this country. God knows, we’ve been working at it hard enough. I give up. It’s time to prepare to take care of me and mine, and wait for the hammer to come down.

    • Tate October 7, 2019 at 9:42 pm #

      There’s no easy way to do it. Otherwise, we’ll be stuck in that quagmire forever. Just what Israel wants.

      • Majella October 8, 2019 at 2:45 am #

        On e of several indicato Rs that a group is a ‘Cult’ is that the Leader can do and say nothing wrong. Ding-ding! Check.

        And one he has tweeted ‘ in my great and unmatched wisdom’…surely, JohnAZ, at some point you’ll see him for what he actually is? See the fact that he’s the Emporer in No Clothes? Is there any hope for you and the other MAGA Cultists in here?

        • Nightowl October 8, 2019 at 9:41 am #

          When do you provide evidence for your wild Russian conspiracy theory? Or for your claim that the “whistleblower” had first-hand evidence.

          Some of us are still waiting.

          • Majella October 9, 2019 at 7:41 pm #

            I don’t recall EVER posting about the Russian thing (as if it were MY theory, certainly). Nor have I had anything, in particular, to say about the whistleblower(s). If I’m wrong, please correct me.

            The only conspiracy theories mentioned on these pages are from the MAGA Cultists.

        • JohnAZ October 8, 2019 at 10:33 am #

          What he is, is much better than anyone being presented as an alternative. It does no good debating with you the evil I see in the Progressive movement, so I won’t.

        • Tate October 8, 2019 at 2:29 pm #

          Trump has said & done plenty wrong, in my book. But in this case, I support his decision 100%.

          & I’m not JohnAz, Majella.

          • Majella October 9, 2019 at 7:47 pm #

            I was referring to the indisputable fact that MAGA has all the hallmarks of a Cult, and was referring to no particular political decision Trump has made recently or prior.

            However, the selling out of the Kurds to his pal Erdogan is an egregious betrayal. THAT phone call – with Erdogan, would REALLY be worth reading a transcript of. Irt sure smells like some sort of deal was made.

            And to top it off, as soon as the pushback came, Trump was quick to threaten economic ruin to the whole of Turkey. Sanctions again, no doubt – who gives a shit about the women & children who’d bear the brunt of such actions. Not POTUS, you can be sure.

            Anyway, given he has a great & unmatched wisdom, Trump would have to disapprove of any Turkish action, which is just so rich, given teh Turkish attack has his imprimatur?

        • benr October 8, 2019 at 5:02 pm #

          One could say your side is nothing but fanatical cult!

          We see the flaws in Trump and ignore them knowing had he not won the hag that would have taken his place was far more damaging and corrupt!
          I can’t even imagine how many wars empress hildabeast would have had us in!
          We came, we saw he died! CACKLE CACKLE CACKLE said miss cankles.


          There is not another human on this planet that is more cold blooded than that display!

          • messianicdruid October 9, 2019 at 4:28 am #

            Re-elect NOBODY…

            so simple people think I’m retarded.

          • Majella October 9, 2019 at 7:50 pm #

            No, benr – the key point I TRIED to make (but no-one seems to have got it) is that MAGA is a cult, as evidenced by the fact that the Cult Members cannot see when their Leader is wrong, and will not speak against him.

            When have I ever slavishly approved of anything any Dem pol has said or done? Please re-acquaint me with any such post.

    • BackRowHeckler October 7, 2019 at 9:49 pm #

      Capt, does his decision have anything to do with keeping our stragic airbase and other military installations inside Turkey?

      Posters on this site hammer the US for its ‘endless wars’ (altho I think we have showed remarkable restraint, when Russia occupied Crimea for example) but when the president makes a move to avoid open conflict with the Turkish army, which is formidable, he’s criticized for it. Then again, if he left troops in place and they got into it with the advancing Turk army, he’d be criticized for that too. This is a case of damned if you do, damned if you don’t, like many cases are.


      • BackRowHeckler October 7, 2019 at 10:20 pm #

        Maybe Trump should be asking “What would Hillary do”, and act accordingly.

      • benr October 8, 2019 at 5:03 pm #

        Turkeys army is formidable for the region as the regional power.

    • Majella October 7, 2019 at 10:51 pm #

      Capt – I disagree about the 8 years under ‘W’.

      He really wasn’t ‘running the country’, that was Cheney, Rumsfeld & Ashcroft, aka ‘The New American Century’ guys.

      The problem with Trump is that he takes heed of NO-ONE (his most endearing quality to MAGAs) and that would be truly wonderful if he wasn’t such a fecking moron.

      • BackRowHeckler October 7, 2019 at 10:56 pm #

        Not to worry Majella, in 16 months Warren will most likely be president, then it’ll be good times and utopia again, with people’s of the world over reaching across borders and singing kumbaya together. Everything will be back to normal.


        • Majella October 8, 2019 at 2:48 am #

          Great to see you’ve figured out Trump is for the dustbin of History, BRH. ANYTHING WOULD BE A RELIEF AFTER THIS SHITSHOW.

          • capt spaulding October 8, 2019 at 1:13 pm #

            My guess is that whoever inherits this mess is gonna have a tough time cleaning it up. Just like Obama (whom I still don’t care for), did after Bush. The behavior that people will put up with in order to support their political choices, is incredible.

          • benr October 8, 2019 at 5:06 pm #


            Says you we had to put up with 8 years of an utter shitbag in Obama.
            You criticize Trump endlessly but Obama was every bit os odious and more so!
            He insulted the supreme court to their face in a state of the union address, millions of Americans and most of our allies!
            Obama was a disgrace in every sense of the word.
            Oh no a bad tweet from Trump, oh no he called out the lying leftist media boo hoo.
            A pox upon Obama and anyone that thought he was a decent President.

          • Majella October 8, 2019 at 8:00 pm #

            Obama – nobody’s perfect… 🙂

            But benr – your loathing for BHO seems to be even more rabid than your hatred of HRC! Maybe I missed the RWNJ memo outlining all his horrendous crimes, so bad that he was impeached and convicted for them…oh, wait….no – that never happened.

            It’s the douchebag at 1600 Pennsylvania who’s in THAT particular mess because he has no idea what he’s doing from one minute to the next and takes no advice from anyone because he’s a ‘stable genius’ and has ‘great and unmatched wisdom’.

            In a court case in Scotland where he was arguing against a wind-farm development, the court asked him for evidence of his claims that it would ‘ruin tourism’. Only Trump could have done this and thought it would be taken seriously: he said he didn’t need to present evidence because he is a “world’s expert” on tourism, relying on the very thin possibility that the judge would just take him at his word…

            What a dick.

          • capt spaulding October 8, 2019 at 8:11 pm #

            That State of the Union address was also where a Republican congress shouted “You lie!” at Obama.

            I just read online that Putin is somewhat upset that Trump asked the head of a different country for help in defeating Biden in the upcoming election. ” I thought we had an exclusive arrangement as far as interfering in elections “, he said.

          • benr October 8, 2019 at 11:51 pm #


            If you think Obama was scandal free you are not near as smart as you think you are.

            @cpt Spaulding

            And they were 100% right he lied about everything.

          • Majella October 9, 2019 at 7:53 pm #

            Benr- give it up.

            I’m not saying Obama was NOT a lying scumbag politician, only that he was never busted for it.

            Trump is also a lying scumbag, an accidental politician, and he HAS been busted for it.

    • MontanaMan October 8, 2019 at 7:46 am #

      I am one of many millions and millions of people that are so glad to bring our boys home. I know what it’s like to serve and I know what it’s like to serve in the thick of it. Meaning war. Do you???? Doubtful.

      • capt spaulding October 8, 2019 at 11:29 am #

        Door gunner on a slick, 1st Cav. You?

      • benr October 8, 2019 at 5:08 pm #

        Yep 8 years in uncle sams canoe club!
        Some of those night watches where mid rats was a week old salad and yesterdays dinner oh the pain!

    • Nightowl October 9, 2019 at 5:45 am #

      Great move from Trump and in-line with his efforts to stop the US war machine.

      Bring the troops home from their neocon/lib crusades for control of natural resources and spend the money on domestic problems created over the last 20 years.

  53. Jihadi Colin October 7, 2019 at 9:25 pm #

    Let’s ask the Iraqis how much Americans cared about fair trials in the past, shall we?

    • capt spaulding October 7, 2019 at 9:33 pm #

      Sure, let’s do that.

    • Pat Ormsby October 7, 2019 at 10:12 pm #

      Thank you for pointing that out. Really, our chickens are just coming home.

  54. Pat Ormsby October 7, 2019 at 10:11 pm #

    Inner’sting times when people long part of the left start pointing out the treasonous behavior of that wing’s leaders.
    For each hard-core leftist youo have here who humphs off, I wonder how many disaffected leftists who wish the Democratic Party would stay true to its long-held principles are quietly tuning in and lurking, like I usually do.
    The past four years have been a real education for me on how my beloved left can get distracted and derailed by what Lobaczewski called a “secondary ponerological union,” basically a lovely sheepskin with a wolf hiding inside. They follow the cleverly scheming wolf off a well-used cliff, Pol Pot, revived, smiles on, and the Potemkin girls dance at the show trials’ half time.

  55. wpa_ccc October 7, 2019 at 10:35 pm #

    A hard rain indeed. It is getting worse. Tick tock, Mr. President.

    NaftoGaz: Trump Associates Mixing Politics and Profits With Ukraine Gas Firm


    “to force out the chief executive at the Ukrainian gas giant and replace him with a team that would carry out exclusive deals. The winners would be corporate entities controlled by Trump allies to profit from exporting U.S. liquefied natural gas into the war-torn former Soviet republic….”

    Quid pro quo. Abuse of high office constitutes high crime.

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  56. HapMan October 7, 2019 at 10:42 pm #

    I appreciate Kunstler’s effort this week to step back and set out his broader perspective on the current issues surrounding Trump. I have had a high regard for much of his work and have been honestly struggling to understand where he is coming from on much of this.

    My own starting point is that the simplest explanation is usually the best. Not always, but usually. I have found it to be a useful guideline for processing information and making decisions.

    Kunstler’s characterizes the current impeachment momentum as a coup driven by both the Deep State and by a power-hungry Left bent on a civil war.

    I disagree. Rather, it is a justified response of one branch of our government to prima facie evidence of a pattern of misconduct in another. Just like the appointment of Mueller was a justified response by the DOJ to evidence of obstruction of the Russia investigation. Just like the FBI investigation into Trump prior to the election was a justified response to evidence of his and his campaign’s suspicious conduct then.

    His campaign chairman, national security advisor and personal lawyer are in, or facing, jail not because they are victims of a Deep State conspiracy but because they committed crimes.

    This isn’t Deep State or the Left. It’s not that complicated. This is government law enforcement agencies and Congress reacting rationally and doing exactly what they were designed to do.

    • BackRowHeckler October 7, 2019 at 10:52 pm #


      It seems like only one side is being investigated and prosecuted.

      Are we to assume the Dems are a party of boy and girl scouts, the party of angels?


      • HapMan October 7, 2019 at 11:04 pm #

        The other side has been investigated too.

        Hillary Clinton was investigated by the FBI prior to the election over her emails. The FBI decided against recommending prosecution because it did not find sufficient evidence to charge her with a crime. Even then, the head of the FBI loudly criticized her and subsequently announced the reopening of the investigation shortly before election day. Both unusual moves which undoubtedly hurt her standing and cost her votes.

        Hillary Clinton was also investigated over Bengazi by the Republican-controlled House, which decided not to take action against her due to lack of evidence of illegal conduct.

        Not that complicated.

        And no, Dems are not the party of angels. But they are not the party of devils either.

        • Exscotticus October 7, 2019 at 11:33 pm #

          >>> The FBI decided against recommending prosecution

          This is the same FBI whose top leadership was caught in the coup attempt. James Comey is gone. Andrew McCabe is gone. Bill Priestap is gone.

          There’s nothing Trump did in that phone call that even remotely approaches what Hillary did with her multiple email scandals. There was more than enough evidence to bust Hillary.

          Meanwhile, Trump thoroughly emasculating these “whistleblower” coup spies who—at best—would have proffered fake news testimony on what the conversation entailed. A conversation they weren’t even privy to! But Trump wisely diffused the situation by releasing the transcript. What are they going to testify about now? Their opinion on the conversation we all read? LOL!

          Lessons learned? Sadly, because Dems politicized these institutions and plotted multiple coup attempts, all former FBI, CIA, DoJ, IRS, etc. officials must be replaced en masse. In theory, they’re life-long neutral gov employees. The reality is clearly something else.

          • JohnAZ October 8, 2019 at 10:29 am #


            There is not even a law preventing him from asking for help from the Ukraine. It is all an”abuse of power”.

            Biden got caught in his arrogance of abusing his power re Ukraine. Again, in his case there are no laws that have been broken. Just ethics and the appearance of influence peddling which is not against the law, Why? Easy!

            Because everyone in the government does it. If we got into a slugfest in the government over corruption, stand by, every one there would be indicted.

            We are witnessing a typical result. This is a last ditch effort by the Dems, and the RINOs to get rid of this President before the 2016 pianos drops on them. It will be a race in an attempt to squelch the truths in both cases. Could be a bloodbath coming.

          • Exscotticus October 8, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

            JohnAZ, please refer to…


            Conflicts of interest in themselves are not unlawful,and happen all the time. They’re not unlawful providing that they’re stated and addressed. But to ignore them is indeed unlawful, as evidenced by laws and policies against it, such as: § 219. Officers and employees acting as agents of foreign principals.

        • JohnAZ October 8, 2019 at 10:20 am #

          You miss the point totally.

          You are comparing two situations that are apples and oranges.

          Your two examples prove the point and show the bias in place in the Deep State.

          Put Trump in your two situations. If Trump had destroyed emails and destroyed evidence, he would have been crucified. If Trump’s staffer had caused the debacle and death of the incompetence, or deliberate malfeasance of Benghazi, he would have been crucified. Comey even stated that she was culpable in the email and server destruction case. But he let her off, not his job, because in simple terms, she did not really mean it. Her words in the Benghazi case says it best. “What possible difference does it make now?”

          Bias! Over and over!

          JHK shows his disdain for the extreme bias of the Deep State in the government. He is also concerned about the rise of the uniparty drive in the Deep State. Both lead right into totalitarian government.

          • HapMan October 8, 2019 at 11:35 am #

            JohnAZ, I get it. I am just not buying it.

            My examples don’t prove “bias” by the “Deep State”. They prove only that the investigations did not show illegality on Clinton’s part. You (and other adherents to internet fringe conspiracy-thinking) have layered on a set of non-reality-based suppositions which allow you to transform these fairly straightforward outcomes into proof of something different. Similarly, Trump has been and is being investigated because of his apparent misconduct – because of things he does and says that indicate potential wrongdoing.

            (And again, the Bengazi investigations were conducted by several Republican-controlled committees who were highly motivated to find any wrongdoing that might have occurred.)

        • benr October 8, 2019 at 5:10 pm #

          Amigo the left his set up a cabal of people who do not allow the actual investigation and prosecution to move forward that is the problem!

          • Majella October 10, 2019 at 3:46 am #

            Benr- you DO understand that your statement simply proves the point, right. Right???

          • benr October 11, 2019 at 9:30 am #


            I guess you are not as smart as you think.
            The point was why has no one on the Democrat side been prosecuted after the investigations!
            Donald is not in trouble because he has done nothing yet to be in trouble for.
            Notice I said YET his own drive to mete out in kind or one up for every slight sent his way will be his downfall.

    • MontanaMan October 8, 2019 at 7:44 am #

      Yes they committed crimes that had nothing whatsoever to do with President Trump. Paul Manafort‘s crimes are crimes based on things that he did many years ago.

  57. Cargill October 7, 2019 at 11:14 pm #

    I’m done … I can’t cope any more.

    I loved JHK back many years when he was one of the seriously interesting commentators on Peak Oil, and the demise of business as usual. He was great.

    But this on-going never-ending meme about the Democrat Deep State malfeasance to undermine Trump has worn me out.

    Even if – even if – there were moves within the bureaucracy to deal with a Trump presidency – and there might have been some incompetent, half-hearted attempts to wiggle things – nothing at all done in those years come anywhere close to excusing the evil that Trump has brought upon your nation over the last three years.

    Good luck America – you need it. As a very interested Aussie, I’m now outta here – JHK has lost all my interest. He might as well just read out the Republican Party and Fox News conspiracy notes – that’s what it look like.


    • wpa_ccc October 7, 2019 at 11:37 pm #

      Sorry to see you go, but I understand. CFN used to be primarily about urburbs, bad architecture, peak oil, long emergency, etc. and that has given way to conspiracy theories: that the 2016 election was “rigged,” until it wasn’t; the campaign was spied on; thousands of Muslims cheered as the Twin Towers fell; the Park Police distorted the inauguration crowd-size photos; Trump Tower was wiretapped; climate change is a hoax perpetrated by a cabal of scientists with an agenda; the Mueller investigators were anti-Trump Democrats; the Steele dossier was written in collaboration with Hillary; the now familiar “deep state” theory The deep state conspiracy theory was initially created in the darkest recesses of the web and embraced by Trump et al., that there exists inside of government a shadow government, hidden in the bureaucracy, comprised of unelected civil servants who are undermining Trump’s agenda while fulfilling its own.

      I’m gonna interrupt you to declare that I have not retailed any of the above bullshit in my blogs. You’re a liar, WPA.
      JHK — Admin

      I don’t blame you, Cargill, and I wish you well. Enjoy life in Australia. We who live in the USA have to continue to slog this out to the bitter end.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 7, 2019 at 11:46 pm #

        Conspiracy theories or Conspiracy facts explained (perhaps) by the Theory?

      • elysianfield October 7, 2019 at 11:57 pm #

        Enjoy life in Australia.

        Yes, but be careful where you step…

        Funnel spiders,
        Ants that can kill with a single sting,
        Deadliest snakes on the planet,

        But there ARE compensations;


        • elysianfield October 8, 2019 at 12:06 am #



          • Cargill October 8, 2019 at 5:36 am #

            I can’t tell whether you’re seriously demented, a lightweight troll, or someone who is well-balanced … with a chip on both shoulders.

            I should advise that I worked with – and for – Indigenous Australians for twenty years. But why do you bring it up? Should we colour every discussion about Trump by invoking Native Americans?

            Your point is unclear … or more likely, just egregious nonsense. But have a great day.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 1:14 pm #

            The full blood Abos have IQ’s of 60 and like to huff gas and get drunk, and then take naps on the highway.

            Thanks for helping them, but they are hopeless. But interestingly enough, their traits are recessive and even one breeding with Whites brings the offspring up enormously. Unlike the Negro whose traits are dominant, being closer to earlier (more real!) forms of Hominid life.

          • elysianfield October 8, 2019 at 11:54 pm #

            “just egregious nonsense”

            Mostly…meant to entertain, not to offend.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 2:02 pm #

          As one wag said, I’ve never seen a good looking Aborigine. The Homo Erectus genes are too obvious in the phenotype or outward appearance.

          The Negro is good looking by comparison, and his genes are dominant over all others. He must be have an even stronger relation to the Primal at the level of the Genotype. Strange world! In any case, John wants them here LEGALLY, much as Stalin wanted to cross Primates and Men to create a better worker. That would have been legal too if it had worked out. As was the actual Holodomor or the Ukrainian Genocide. All Legal. Funny word, that.

          • Cargill October 10, 2019 at 11:59 pm #

            You’re possibly the most ridiculously racist person I’ve ever seen on a forum. Enjoy your life, packing shelves in Wal-Mart. I’m pleased to see you’re livin’ the dream.

      • Nightowl October 8, 2019 at 11:07 am #

        It’s cute how you mix in obviously ridiculous “conspiracy theory” with situations that are easily verifiable as true.

        You think you are clever, but you are a cow.

      • Majella October 8, 2019 at 8:09 pm #

        JHK – “..I have not retailed any of the above bullshit in my blogs”.

        I’m not so sure – either it’s bullshit or it’s not.

        “the now familiar “deep state” theory The deep state conspiracy theory was initially created in the darkest recesses of the web and embraced by Trump et al., that there exists inside of government a shadow government, hidden in the bureaucracy, comprised of unelected civil servants who are undermining Trump’s agenda while fulfilling its own.”

        Isn’t this one of your planks? Personally, I find it hard to swallow. I’d appreciate someone – anyone – coming up with a coherent provable argument that this is a ‘real thing’.

        • RocketDoc October 9, 2019 at 2:04 pm #

          In a blog post several years ago I took on this idea of “Deep State”. The term I was familiar with from college was C Wright Mills, The Power Elite. There are plenty of secret strategies to win more political power but it made the most sense to me that this power elite was fractured into competing factions. There was no monolithic hidden cabal.


          • Majella October 9, 2019 at 8:13 pm #


            Thank you for the link. I really hope everyone else reads this, especially JHK.

            You really nailed it here:

            ” What is the goal of the “Deep State” and who are its members? It is fair to answer that there is no such thing as the “Deep State”, it is a conspiracy term that imagines a cabal of secret people who are a bogeyman for one’s own imagined helplessness and irrelevancy.”

            And here:

            “Our task as citizens is to create a substantially just, eco- sustainable, multicultural, representative democracy. Some might say we have exactly that but it just works poorly.”

            And again here:

            “We all have a multiplicity of loyalties and a desire to thrive. Who has to compromise and who gets their way? We should remember that a society that works is preferable to one falling apart and participate accordingly.”

            Truly coherent, joined-up thinking (which puts me to shame), and I find myself so much in agreement with your perspective.

    • MontanaMan October 8, 2019 at 7:42 am #

      GOODBYE!!!! So long!!! Stay gone!!!!! Thank God there are not many Ozzies like you. And I know this for a stone cold fact. I’m sure that I have been to Australia far more times than you have been here to America. But I digress.


  58. Goodwalkspoiled October 8, 2019 at 12:39 am #

    This is a crucial time because the Dems just might win the White House due to Trump fatigue by suburban women. And also look for Hillary to enter the race soon. There are smoldering embers just beneath the surface. As Biden gets skewered by the radical left she may waddle into the thick of it. And the Dems will shove everyone else aside and start claiming Hillary was cheated last time (in order to get sympathy votes), and how it’s only fair she should be in the White House instead of the Donald. It’s coming.

  59. SoftStarLight October 8, 2019 at 1:46 am #

    It’s a most reasonable question and worthy of much consideration.
    How can we downscale the federal government in a coherent way? How do we go about downscaling all of our activities to suit the new normals? It goes without saying that our government has become too overextended, hetergenous, and corrupt to do anything efficiently and responsibly. The federal government is too big to survive. A house divided cannot stand. Yet culturally, we have a new imperialism in the form of the PC culture. The internet and 24/7/365 media ensures its propagation imperpetuity on a near global scale. It’s hard to imagine much of anything changing until the dominant PC cultural tyranny and the associated speech and behavioral codes are overthrown or otherwise dispensed with.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 4:09 am #

      It’s all One Beast System. Public? Private? Left hand. Right hand. Thus the Libertarian dream of reducing Government is basically meaningless. The Corporations would then simply rule us directly without the illusion of elections. Culture is upstream of Government in any case. It’s always this way in other words – for good or for ill or somewhere in between. There’s always a ethos or culture with its values and folkways. The Laws will reflect them. Our Laws are being changed to suit the new hideous new culture that is arising over our objections.

      • SoftStarLight October 8, 2019 at 9:32 am #

        Yes, our fallen nature always seems to bring us back to the Beast System. I suppose you could say its the beast or sin nature within all of us to one degree or another. Its difficult to control. For instance, its easy to desire to control tyranny with more tyranny. Being free, really free, is difficult for most people I think. If we were a disciplined people we could actually govern ourselves at the micro level and that would kind of roll up to the macro level. The family farm would be the first tier and the most important one as you have pointed out before. I really wish we could live that way again.

  60. Majella October 8, 2019 at 3:20 am #

    Thank you, JHK, for a concise explanation of your extreme disappointment in your former party of ‘doing the right thing for the vast majority of the people’. It’s been plain for a few years now that you loathe the machinations of the DNC, most obviously visible in the 2016 screwing of Bernie Sanders.

    I’m not a Dem, or even an American. I live here but haven’t registered to any party, but I’d have supported Bernie last time and couldn’t vote for the ‘heir apparent’ of HRC.

    The extreme gender/politically correct end of the party are in fact a minority – a very vocal one, but not representative of the 70% of Americans who suppport universal healthcare (one if your favorite rackets to excoriate), higher taxes – or even ANY taxes on the very wealthy corporations & individuals, and free tuition at state colleges – another racket to be brought down.

    I get your ire, but it does appear to have been ‘infected’ but that very thing you always claimed you were allergic to – conspiracy theory.

    You state that many have been dinging you about your concentration on the perceived perfidy of the DNC. You’re probably right, to some extent or another, but the seething rage that appears to have consumed you has, at the same time, led you to forgiving – or at least ignoring – the outrageous, egregious, unpatriotic, self-dealing, bare-faced lying of the GGG. Whatever happened to ‘a plague on both their houses!’?

    You’d possibly restore some of that apparently lost respect by being just as acerbic aboutTrump’s shenanigans from time to time. For example, if you were to, on Friday, give us your view on what he’s said & done this last couple of weeks, without spending all your energy spitting at DNC or the fabulous Deep State, while jones ING for the mythical Barr/Durham investigation, for a change?

    What’s your take on his Kurdistan move? What’s your take on today’s tweet that includes the emporer-like words “my great and unmatched wisdom”? I mean, FOR REAL????

    Let’s hear the old, dormant liberal side of your brain for a change. At present, the MAGA crowd in here are fed a constant diet of delicious confirmation tropes from you. Feed the rest of us. Being a ‘progressive’ does not make us HRC supporters, or gender-bending fools or late-term abortion supporters or any of the rest of the 58 things JohnAZ accuses us of. Most progressives ( I certainly speak for myself, and, I’m guessing most of the others on this blog who aren’t MAGA Cultists) just want to see fairness in our daily lives.

    Come on, Jim! Surely you haven’t been sucked into this clown-show of a Presidency?

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    • JohnAZ October 8, 2019 at 9:59 am #

      58 things, is that all?

    • cc rider October 8, 2019 at 10:29 am #

      Very well thought out and said Majella. I’m more to “the right” than you are, but I think you communicate your viewpoint well. Not that you need my approval, endorsement, accolades, etc…. This is just an “atta boy” or “atta girl”.


  61. Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 4:13 am #

    The Assassins ruled a large part of Islam through terror for some generations at least. The Old Man of the Mountain inspired utter loyalty in his fanatical followers via a judicious mixture of drugs, sex, and religion. Viziers would wake up with a heavy dagger on their pillow – a warning to tow the line or else. One such wrote: The Old Man’s argument are both heavy and pointed.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 4:24 am #

      In response to Walt’s statement about assassination. I agree. The Old Man recruited devout young men, inspired them, and then trained them in something like the Japanese, Ninjitsu.

      Even though they were crushed militarily in the end (by the Mongols or some new Persian Dynasty), many followers fled to India and they survive to this day as the Ismaili Sect.

  62. Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 4:19 am #

    Cicero responds to John Az

    Why do we gather instances of petty crime—legacies criminally obtained and fraudulent buying and selling? Behold, here you have a man who was ambitious to be king of the Roman People and master of the whole world; and he achieved it! The man who maintains that such an ambition is morally right is a madman; for he justifies the destruction of law and liberty and thinks their hideous and detestable suppression glorious. But if anyone agrees that it is not morally right to be kind in a state that once was free and that ought to be free now, and yet imagines that it is advantageous for him who can reach that position, with what remonstrance or rather with what appeal should I try to tear him away from so strange a delusion? For, oh ye immortal gods! can the most horrible and hideous of all murders—that of fatherland—bring advantage to anybody, even though he who has committed such a crime receives from his enslaved fellow-citizens the title of “Father of his Country”? Expediency, therefore, must be measured by the standard of moral rectitude, and in such a way, too, that these two words shall seem in sound only to be different but in real meaning to be one and the same.”

    JS: Practical should mean they ways and means to approach the Ideal, or approximation thereof in the meantime. If you are going further and further away, you are not being practical. John’s fatuous open borders for legal immigrants is simply running in the opposite direction from a return to the Republic. It doesn’t matter how fast your receiver runs or what block he breaks if he is running towards your own goal post – as John’s hero Trump seems bound and determined to do.

    • JohnAZ October 8, 2019 at 9:54 am #


      I have never advocated open borders for anyone. Controlled borders is what I have advocated forever. I love the way you wordsmith to justify your obvious bias against anyone who does not look like you.

      And yes. If you want to call Trump my hero, go right ahead. He stands for the opposition to the Deep State that I abhor. I look at anybody in the opposition as president and all I see is the dissolution of America. So yeah, I will support him against ANYONE in the Deep State, especially traitorous RINOs.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 1:19 pm #

        When it looked like Trump might get his tall slatted fence, he immediately reached out to his class by saying the H1b visas would be enormously increased in addition to the massive LEGAL open door policy for the Southern Border.

        And yet you sometimes (for some reason) pretend to be pro-White. That’s the issue. It doesn’t matter if we are replaced “legally” or “illegally” if we are being replaced – which is a Spiritual Crime. You obviously haven’t read “Civil Disobedience” by Thoreau since you confuse legality and morality.

  63. MontanaMan October 8, 2019 at 7:38 am #

    BRAVO ?. JIM!!!! BRAVO ? You have absolutely nothing whatsoever to apologize for!!!!! We need more liberal voices like you!!! And you really need to appear more on Tucker Carlson!!!!

    When I was growing up both sides of my family were liberal Democrats like you. And I’m talking registered card-carrying members. But the party left my family years ago and not a one is a member of the Democratic Party today, or has voted Democrat for the last 25 years at least.

    No we are not of the extreme far right whatsoever. But we definitely are not part of the extreme far left. Growing up both sides of my family was what I reckon you would call your garden variety “JFK Democrat.” To this day we hold certain beliefs that I reckon some folks would call liberal beliefs and yet we simply call Them common sense.

    And we also hold certain beliefs that many would call conservative beliefs. And once again we call these common sense. Or I guess you could call it right now in the middle of the road.

    “Montana White Folks Common Sense.”

  64. SoftStarLight October 8, 2019 at 9:52 am #

    I don’t support our engagement and entanglement in other peoples affairs at all. That being said, I do feel sorry for the Kurds. It seems that they are one of the only Muslim ethnicities that want to essentially assimilate into a Western style culture. They are a Caucasian people too so I am biased in my sympathies I admit. Since we lost so many of our people in Iraq and spent so many billions fighting that fight I can’t understand why we did not place the Kurds in charge of Iraq. Since we were regime-changing anyway (which is crazy by the way) wouldn’t it have been in our interest to have the Kurds in charge? And shouldn’t that have been their reward for their loyalty to us? These are the things I can’t wrap my mind around as to why we have done the things we have done overseas and thus why IMHO we need to keep ourselves out of conflicts overseas altogether.

    • Exscotticus October 8, 2019 at 10:16 am #

      >>> I can’t understand why we did not place the Kurds in charge of Iraq

      We tried placing people in charge—and quickly discovered it was a disaster. Did Colonial Americans accept royal governors appointed by the Crown?

  65. Nightowl October 8, 2019 at 9:59 am #

    House of cards is coming down, step by step.

    Bumbling James Clapper just admitted on the teevee that Obama was at the top of the Spygate/FISA operation.


    Obama must be sweating bullets.

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    • JohnAZ October 8, 2019 at 10:44 am #

      Compare Obama to W. Both were surrounded by zealots of their respective causes, both were poster boy presidents manipulated by bureaucracies, esp. intelligence folks. It is no wonder the farce of the unbiased FBI and CIA has come to light. 8 years of packing the leadership of both agencies with Liberal people beholding to Obama’s being president, have given them a base to challenge the legitimacy of a presidential election on no grounds. The FBI has been cleaned out pretty much. The Ukraine whistleblower fiasco will give the Trumpers the ability to clean out the CIA and especially John Brennan.

    • Exscotticus October 8, 2019 at 10:46 am #

      It’s already been reported that Obama knew about Russian influence and executed his strategy to deal with it…

      Obama White House Knew of Russian Election Hacking, but Delayed Telling

      WASHINGTON — The Obama administration feared that acknowledging Russian meddling in the 2016 election would reveal too much about intelligence gathering and be interpreted as “taking sides” in the race, the former secretary of homeland security said Wednesday.

      Too much about “intelligence gathering”—which included trying to insert a spy into Trump and ONLY Trump’s campaign.

      We’re supposed to believe that Brennan and/or Clapper and/or Comey and/or the NSA and/or FISA just kicked off Trump surveillance—and ONLY Trump surveillance—without Obama’s knowledge or direction? PLEASE.

      The Russians influenced both sides; they tried to hack both sides; they ran attack ads against both sides. Yet Trump was investigated and Hillary was not. Meanwhile, it is Hillary’s mis- and malfeasance that resulted in classified emails being obtained by the Russians.

      And now? Dems have no interest whatsoever in investigating and prosecuting those who committed the apparently impeachable high crime offence of investigating Trump, of investigating one’s “political rivals”, of which then candidate Trump certainly was.

      Total double standard. Everyone can investigate Trump for any reason; no one can investigate Dems for any reason.

      • Nightowl October 8, 2019 at 10:55 am #

        The classified emails on Hillary’s bathroom server ended up at Wikileaks. It was already proven that they were not hacked by any “Russians,” and the that files were transmitted internally. Ex-NSA bigwig William Binney did extensive work on this that the MSM tried to downplay.

        To date, we have seen no clear evidence of Russia having any involvement in the US election process, other than a couple of Facetweet trolls who put out pictures of Jesus and Satan armwrestling. Mueller was a colossal failure on every possible front. He even indicted a fake company, FFS.

        • Exscotticus October 8, 2019 at 10:58 am #

          >>> It was already proven that they were not hacked by any “Russians,” and the that files were transmitted internally.

          Is that a fact? Please quote a single line of Mueller’s report where he admits that. We’ll wait.

          Also I think you’re confusing Hillary’s emails with the DNC’s.

          • Nightowl October 8, 2019 at 11:16 am #

            Mueller’s report is a hoax.

          • Nightowl October 8, 2019 at 11:22 am #

            Edit: HRC mails should have been DNC mails, yes. Bill Binney and a few other former NSA/intel folks verified the internal hack of the DNC mails. The DNC denied access to the server, including to the FBI, because they are full of shit.

            The claim is that HRC’s/Podesta’s were hacked. All files in question here ended up at Wikileaks, so that we could all learn of HRC’s and the DNC’s shocking levels of corruption.

          • Exscotticus October 8, 2019 at 1:56 pm #

            I agree with you that, as far as we know, all forensic evidence is that the DNC email hack was in fact an inside job.

            But recall that Mueller never even investigated it. TDS Mueller had no interest in it at all!

            Recall it’s the DNC email fiasco that touched off the entire “Russian collusion” investigation in the first place.

            So the DNC email dump was used to justify a TDS coup on Trump, and was itself never even investigated.

      • JohnAZ October 8, 2019 at 11:16 am #

        Remember in the cloud of political BS that the determination of hacking culpability from Russia was never proved, it was on the word of Crowdstrike that the two sources were IDed. There was a cyber expert in the US that countered that conclusion, saying that the Russians could not have hacked the DNC. Assange stated his source was not Russia.

        Who is right? Right now, bulls—t is writing history. And very serious ramifications are developing based on biased bulls—t.

        People, get your head out of the NYT, CNN and yes even Fox with their obvious biased reporting. Bulls—t reporting is going to be the end of us.

        • Majella October 10, 2019 at 3:53 am #

          Fox has lost JohnAZ…the world is off it’s axis, for sure..

    • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 1:23 pm #

      Nothing is going to happen to the Prince of Cats. He is the System, just like Hillary. If by some miracle he was brought up on charges, I imagine he would have an Epstein type accident. Unless they thought they could trust him to stay quiet and do his time quietly – but they’re not much on trust just as Obama probably isn’t much on quiet suffering, being pampered since day one.

  66. BackRowHeckler October 8, 2019 at 10:16 am #

    Looking at video from Climate Extinction disturbances from London and Berlin and a few other western cities yesterday. One observation is the people in the streets blocking traffic seemed well fed and healthy. There was some pretty clever street theater as well, such as spraying water dyed red around to represent blood of all those who will die in 11 years when humanity comes to and end ‘if we do nothing’. It was quite a mess.

    You know what would be great? If the PMs of UK and Germany declared suddenly, “Young people, we hear you. Humanity is in peril. I hereby by declare fossil fuels an illegal commodity, an all petroleum based products and coal is banned from now to perpetuity. It’s a new world.”

    Boris Johnson: “BP is now an illegal criminal organization. Its executives will be hunted own and jailed, and all assets will be sold off and the proceeds handed over to ‘Climate Extinction’. And to ‘Climate Extinction’, you are now responsible for meeting the energy needs of the people of the UK.”.

    Angela Merkel: “I’ve instructed that units of the German Army to destroy natgas and petroleum pipelines coming in from Russia. From this moment onward Germany has gone green.”

    The ‘Climate Extinction’ protesters in Jo’ Burg, South Africa one must look at with a little bit of pathos and trepidation, a handful of white kids in a city full of Black Africans who tolerate them at best and would like to see them dead at worst. Down to 7% of the population these white kids are facing extinction but it ain’t from bad weather, IMHO.


    • malthuss October 8, 2019 at 10:47 am #

      Chinas hypersonic missles can hit any US city.
      Blame Clinton and who knows what other of out leaders.


      • BackRowHeckler October 8, 2019 at 11:07 am #


        Is LA as bad as we hear?

        Or are there still some places where the decay and dysfunction is not so bad, and is liveable?


      • JohnAZ October 8, 2019 at 11:23 am #


        All of them, both parties, the Deep State. The real question continues to be, who is ultimately profiting from all of this?

        • malthuss October 8, 2019 at 12:04 pm #

          Israel, the billionaires, etc.

    • BackRowHeckler October 8, 2019 at 11:41 am #


      JB makes some good points about the US armed forces.

      Last air force academy commandant was a lesbian married to another woman. A few days ago General David Goldfien, USAF, gave a speech promoting ‘inclusion and welcoming’ in the ranks, and announced a new program to provide different color band aids to match the race of the service member. There will now be black and brown band aids too. Xi, Putin and young Kim must see this sh#t and laugh their asses off.


      • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 1:29 pm #

        In other words, race has nothing to do with one’s actual race, but rather how you identify or feel.

        I’d rather we go the Roman Way, with the “reds” and “blues” supporting different teams and going to war about it. In Rome, it was Chariot racing. We have a much richer tableau to work with. Why should Blacks have all the fun, with their Crips and Bloods outfits?

  67. JohnAZ October 8, 2019 at 11:02 am #

    Successful republican democracy requires a level playing field to conduct legitimate elections and honest debate.

    Unfortunately, both parties have so distorted the political scene that we have lost this ability. All we have left is corruption and power seeking. The people of the US have been left behind in the power struggle. Lincoln’s vision of a government, of, by and for is disappearing fast. And that fact is what has fired up the TeaParty and its successor the red hatted Deplorables.

    Absolute power corrupts and corrupts absolutely. We are witnessing the fulfillment of this adage.

    Right now, due to a Liberal swing of the Deep State, we are seeing bias and judicial leaning toward the Left. If the situation was reversed, we would see the same thing to the Right.

    The common denominator is the influence of the Deep State. The folks that believe that the government is paramount to the will of the people. The group that corrupts almost all of the Mr. Smiths that get elected to DC. I have seen it with the corruption of J. McCain and J. Flake.

    All you folks that think that the government is smarter and better to make judgements about their lives, I wonder about you.

    Go for it, support the Deep State, but never complain about losing your self determination, ie liberty.

    • “You can’t handle the truth!!”

      • JohnAZ October 8, 2019 at 11:40 am #


        You think things are good the way it is right now? You have been reading your NYT rag way too long.

        The truth is in the eyes of the beholder.

        • No, I believe in the concept of objective truth. I read news descriptions, not prescriptions.

          The purported existence of the “Deep State” isn’t very compelling to me, partly because I haven’t seen evidence of it. The existence of intelligence agencies or agents, whistle-blowing employees, etc., just doesn’t rise to the level of conspiracy.

          I see the government and our elected officials comfortably ensconced in a system of laws and procedures. There is personal corruption, for example, Bernie has proposed barring former members of Congress from taking jobs as lobbyists.

          (This might just level the playing field, seeing as how you have to sign a non-compete agreement to get a job at Burger King.)

          Personal corruption is far more prevalent in my view. Kick-backs, insider trading. Quasi-legal stuff. The general bad faith of partisanship. Corporate welfare. Ignoring / abusing their constituencies with unkept campaign promises. Pork barrel issues, etc.

          The ostensibly non-partisan careerists in the intelligence and military have some self-interest and certainly political preferences but they tend to be centrists and moderates.

          The FBI has the authority to wander about, fishing for information and evidence of crimes including lying to the FBI. The NSA is responsible for information security except when overruled by a politician that wants to use insecure communication channels, personal cellphones or email servers. The Joint chiefs of staff, with their expansive knowledge of situational facts has to bow to the Commander in Chief but I don’t think they are power-grabbers as politicians are, I think they take their responsibilities to those under their command seriously.

          The whistle-blowers could be just career employees with a conscience, as opposed to political operatives as JHK suggests. People can be motivated by personal ethics that are politicized after the fact.

          The whole troika of Comey, Mueller, and Hillary, with Obama in the wings, pulling a bandwagon summarily referred to as “The Left” is just a Shibboleth.

          • Walter B October 8, 2019 at 6:36 pm #

            Either you don’t know shit, crap-cakes, or you are some sort of shill whose mission is to confuse the citizenry. Those of us that actually KNOW people in the business can assure you that these spooks and kooks are real and that they operate in a world that is right alongside the regular Joe’s but is totally covert and hidden from public view.

            I was having dinner with one of them, a 5th grade crossing guard school buddy of mine, the night before a Change of Responsibility event of a classmate at Ft. Meyer, Virginia in 2015. He was one of those 10,000 insiders that had their files hacked by the Chinese (I believe it was them and that HRC was behind it) and he was not only pissed, but paranoid as hell. At the curbside restaurant that we were dining at, every time a white van passed by he damned near shit his pants.

            Perhaps you operate in some secluded science lab or a university library where all is well and nothing is bad, but out here in the real world, especially in the cities of power, this shit is real.

      • Billy Hill October 8, 2019 at 12:25 pm #

        Yep. Michael Hastings was a bad driver. Seth Rich met up with incompetent robbers. Jefferey Epstein fell out of bed with a rolled up sheet around his neck.

        Building 7 just tuckered out and collapsed. The neighborhood was having a bad day.

        It’s difficult to accept simple, matter-of-fact explanations being creatures that impose pattern on the chaos of events, but sometimes a cigar is, truth be told, just a cigar.

        • sprawlcapital October 8, 2019 at 1:03 pm #

          TO THIS DAY, the collapse of building 7 instills in me awe and wonder. I recall being puzzled when I heard about the event on the evening of 9/11. I have witnessed two controlled implosions of buildings here in Des Moines. There are lots of good videos about building 7 on YouTube. But you all know that.

          • Nightowl October 8, 2019 at 3:23 pm #

            The free-fall and near free-fall speeds that were observed are key to the big lie. The only way those speeds were achievable is if all supporting columns and interior matter turned to dust at the same time. Otherwise, resistance would slow the collapse.

            Once one accepts this fundamental concept, nothing else even matters. It is the achilles in the propagandists’ armour.

          • Walter B October 8, 2019 at 7:36 pm #

            You are wise indeed Nightowl because the regular citizenry appears to have much difficulty understanding the very concept of free-fall. I cannot understand that fact because if something falls without anythi8ng underneath it to slow it down, well that is free-fall. Any falling object that runs into an object beneath it as it falls is slowed done at least somewhat and so the fall, is not free and slows down at least somewhat.

            Perhaps the public school education does more damage than it does good.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 1:33 pm #

          It had to fall because of the little fires or cuz of the vibrations of the two towers falling. Funny other buildings didn’t fall too, though. Maybe it was a confluence of the little fires and the vibrations….

          Did Tolkien know? Else why his title of the 2nd LOTR book, The Two Towers?

          • benr October 8, 2019 at 5:51 pm #

            Actually building 7 was damaged at the lower part of the building and strange enough they talked about its collapse before it did.
            That one is very strange but there are videos that showed it was very damaged from one of the other structures hitting it.

          • Nightowl October 9, 2019 at 9:39 am #

            Those fires could not have caused dozens of support columns and massive floor structures to simultaneously turn to powder. The narrative is absurd.

            WTC 7 is the strongest case here as it fell in near perfect free-fall. Any resistance from any columns or interior structures would have slowed the collapse by a very large margin.

          • Majella October 9, 2019 at 8:16 pm #


            Considering the range of weird things you DO believe, I find it fascinating that you DON’T hold 9/11 out as, at least, a curiosity if not the full-blown conspiracy…

          • benr October 11, 2019 at 9:34 am #


            Don’t get me wrong 9-11 was bizarre from start to finish.
            I just know how ham handed our intelligence services are and there is no way they could have pulled this off unless everyone involved met a quick and explainable end.

            As far as bizarre beliefs trust me your almost alien and insect like in your love of Socialism and all the crap it screws up.

  68. volodya October 8, 2019 at 3:27 pm #

    Don’t know if anybody else commented on this or saw this but there’s stuff out there that ole Liz Warren, your favorite Indian and mine, got caught in another fiberoo, this time over saying she got turfed from a job for being pregnant. Apparently some folks are taking issue with this claim saying it didn’t happen and referencing some documentary evidence.

    • benr October 8, 2019 at 5:52 pm #

      Heard it she is a terrible liar it seems everything she says is made up to help her game the system and it is all back firing on her in the worst way.

    • Nightowl October 9, 2019 at 5:24 am #

      The psycho Sanpaku “bug eyes” give these freaks away. Watch her speak and observe her eyes when she is excited.

      Looks just like Hillary, AOC, etc. She is mentally unstable.

  69. BackRowHeckler October 8, 2019 at 3:40 pm #

    Oil demand still 100 million bpd, coal trains still running east out of the Wyoming Basin.


    We’ll show these unwoke useless eaters who insist on driving their cars, heating their houses and having electric lights, the gravity of the situation. THE FUTURE OF HUMANITY HANGS IN THE BALANCE!

    We’ve tried to reason, we’ve given govts every chance to ban oil, gas coal and nuclear power, the time for talking is over.

    No, it’s time to invoke PLAN Z!!!

    WHO’S WITH ME????


  70. BackRowHeckler October 8, 2019 at 3:53 pm #

    What’s Plan Z? Oh, you’ll find out soon enough.

    You flick your lightswitch, the lights don’t go on.

    You drive to the service station for gasoline, the service station is dark, with a crudely written sign hanging on the pumps that says ‘No Gas’.

    You turn up the heat on your natgas furnace, but there is no heat.

    You walk to the local grocery, but it’s already been looted.

    That’s Plan Z, unwoke useless eaters.

    Sorry, but we need to cool the planet.


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  71. Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 3:59 pm #

    Greta is enraged, saying her future has been stolen from her. And indeed it has: she is 16 but shows no sign of developing into a woman. Is this part of her condition? Couldn’t her parents have gotten some hormone treatment for that? Or have they gotten her a treatment to actually block her from going into puberty – for the purpose of politics? A Child shall lead them? But such an angry child can only lead them to Hell.

    • BackRowHeckler October 8, 2019 at 4:08 pm #

      Next week when she picks up her Nobel Peace Prize she will also be picking up a check for $978,000. Just like for people on top there’s good cash to be made in Socialism and Communism, if you play it right, there’s good cash to be made in climate change too. You just have to find the right angle.


      • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 4:31 pm #

        I hate the Anti-Climate movement. How can you be against the climate – that’s to be against the Author of the Climate, the Sun. And to be against the Sun, is to be against God, Himself.

        Greta is gathering a horde of Maenads around herself who will tear men apart at her command. Young virgins, who have never known Man nor perhaps ever will, following instead the path of Sappho of Lesbos. But who will be their Dionsysus? Their Satan?


  72. Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 4:03 pm #

    If you sift through the mountain of dross that the BBC churns out, you can occasionally find something worthwhile. One example of this was the recently broadcast documentary “Churchill and the Movie Mogul.” The movie mogul in question was the “Hungarian” Jew, Alexander Korda (real name “Sándor László Kellner”).

    It tells the story of Churchill’s curious relationship with Korda, summarized in bullet points below:
    •Churchill wrote scripts for him.
    •In the 1930s, with script input from Churchill, Korda made high-profile Hollywood movies, such as “That Hamilton Woman” and “The Four Feathers,” which cast Britain in a heroic light, fighting off dastardly foreigners.
    •Korda was accused by some American politicians of making propaganda designed to bolster American support for Britain in a potential future war with Germany.
    •Korda was summoned to appear before the American senate to answer this charge.
    •Then Pearl Harbor happened, rendering it all irrelevant.
    •Korda was knighted shortly afterwards.
    •Before, during and after the war, Korda paid Churchill a fortune for movie rights to his books. These movies were never made except one, thirty years later.

    For a long time, people have sought to identify a source of secret Jewish funding for Churchill. Well, here was at least one of them.

    You can probably track the whole documentary down online somewhere, but here are a few key excerpts.

    Charles Lindbergh pointed out at the time that the Jews and the British were attempting to entice America into war with Germany, and that Hollywood was being used as an instrument of this propaganda. This was denounced then and later as a crazed anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. But the Jews now boast that it was true. In their books and publications, Jews are holding up Korda as a tribal hero for enticing the goyim into fighting for their cause.

    Goy rights discourse tends to exhibit a standard lifecycle:
    •Goy defend their own interests, pointing out some nefarious thing Jews are engaged in.
    •Jews denounce this as a mad anti-Semitic conspiracy theory, motivated by hatred.
    •Discussion of the nefarious thing Jews are engaged in is publicly suppressed. Anyone who attempts to broach any discussion of it is anathematized and sentenced to internal exile within their own land.
    •After sufficient time has elapsed – after the goy rights defenders have gone to the grave, their reputations in ruins – the Jews will dust down the anti-Semitic conspiracy theory and admit that it was true all along. They will even demand credit for engaging in the conspiracy, claiming it made the world a better place.

    The length of time that elapses between the “mad anti-Semitic conspiracy theory” stage and the “we deserve credit for this” stage is a function of how tightly a society is under Jewish control. When a society is under super-tight control, as ours is now, the Jews don’t need to wait long at all. It’s quite possible, therefore, that we’ll see Jews publicly boasting about their role in White Genocide before the end of this century.


    JS: Just found this brother last night. What a read. Note the succinctness of his reasoning and how he naturally comes to the correct conclusion. This is an Adamic Mind, simply Man as he was before the Fall, with a commonsense that approached what we would now call genius. Compare this with a Snacker, an Elrond, or on “our side”, a John Az. Are they even the same species? In a deep sense, No.

    • BackRowHeckler October 8, 2019 at 5:34 pm #

      Somebody failed to mention that Germany declared war on the United States before the United States declared war on Germany. We had no choice, we had to defend ourselves.


      • Tate October 8, 2019 at 6:31 pm #

        Yeah we had no choice, we had to defend ourselves. Things sure get mixed up in the historical retelling.

        “Sodbuster tried to pull on Wilson.”


        • BackRowHeckler October 8, 2019 at 7:58 pm #

          Great movie, but not a good analogy, Tate.

          On December 8, 1941, Germany was much stronger militarily than the United States was. We had just lost our fleet in the Pacific and lost an entire army in the Philippines. We had virtually disarmed after WW1. And in the first clash of arms US vs Germany, at Kasserine Pass, the US Army lost. It took awhile for us to get up to speed.


          • Tate October 8, 2019 at 8:44 pm #

            Germany had a mutual defense pact with Japan. Not the wisest of entanglements given what happened later. When the Japanese attacked the U.S. at Pearl Harbor, the U.S. declared war on Japan so Germany was obligated to declare war on the U.S. (The Germans are nothing if not sticklers for protocol & proper form.)

            The real story is how Japan was goaded by the U.S. into attacking the U.S. because of the U.S. embargo Japan. So yes, it’s a pretty good analogy, although not perfect.

          • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2019 at 2:41 am #

            Germany also had a plan to invade the United States in 1902, landing 300,000 troops on the east coast, in Charleston, Norfolk and Long Island. At the time the US Army had fewer than 100,000 soldiers, and most of them were fighting in the Philippines.


          • Janos Skorenzy October 9, 2019 at 6:07 pm #

            And why were we in the Philippines there, big guy? Too bad the Germans hadn’t invaded and conquered, saving us from the nascent Military Industrial complex and the coming rule by the Judeo-Masons.

            But of course, it would have failed. America was still healthy, and they would have face a rifle behind every glade of brass.

    • cc rider October 8, 2019 at 5:52 pm #

      One of the few things Obama did as President is when he sent the bust of Churchill back to Britain. And he did it as a gesture. A middle finger to Churchill. A real drunken, blood thirsty POS. If he wasn’t blood thirsty then he was just indifferent to blood being spilled, as long as it wasn’t his. A lot of blood was spilled unnecessarily because of him, that overrated cigar chomping blow hard. Yeah I know I know…..”But Hitler was this, and Hitler was that”. But Hitler didn’t want to war with Britain. Or the US either. Churchill wanted it. And he made sure it happened. In fact he had German civilians bombed by the RAF first very early on. Caught the Germans completely off guard because they weren’t expecting it. What the Luftwaffe did to London was retaliation.

      So many lies perpetuated from that era. Hell, take even the Berlin Olympics of 1936. We’ve been told that Hitler was outraged that Jesse Owens, a black American, won the gold medal. Yet I have watched and heard Owens say on camera years later that Hitler was very kind and respectful to him in Berlin. In fact he said he felt more respect from Hitler than he did from most Americans. Huh. Imagine that.

      • BackRowHeckler October 8, 2019 at 6:01 pm #

        Actually Churchill was a brave and gallant soldier in the Boer War.

        • cc rider October 8, 2019 at 7:53 pm #

          Yeah. He was very brave as a young man there in that war. No one has ever denied his allegiance to the Crown and the Empire. So his bravery in S. Africa makes everything else he did okay later in life then. Sort of a Kha Khan status forever.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 8:38 pm #

          As Buchanan concluded, He was a great man – at the expense of his nation’s greatness. Reread Cicero’s letter to John Az. The latter is the true criterion of his greatness. Nothing is lower than a traitor as Dante reminds us.

      • Exscotticus October 9, 2019 at 4:09 pm #

        >>> But Hitler didn’t want to war with Britain.

        True, he simply wanted the UK to capitulate with no fight whatsoever. Like when he rolled into Austria and the Rhineland. So much easier that way!

        >>> Or the US either.

        And yet he needlessly declared war.

  73. volodya October 8, 2019 at 4:06 pm #

    Fake news? Russians at it again? Truthinesslessness?


    Does anyone give a shit?

    • BackRowHeckler October 8, 2019 at 4:11 pm #

      Yes, Elrond and Robert White give sh#t.

    • Elrond Hubbard October 9, 2019 at 11:12 pm #

      We are unable to evaluate the veracity of rumours that volodya is the unwanted offspring of unholy congress between Nikita Khrushchev and a head of wilted lettuce. We simply don’t know one way or the other. We report, you decide.


  74. Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 4:22 pm #

    The Left wants more Non-Whites. The Neo-Cons and Corporations want more Non-Whites. Christian Evangelicals and Novus Ordo Catholics want more Non-Whites. Trump wants more Non-Whites cuz the “economy is so good”. And finally, John Az wants more Non-Whites cuz it’s natural. Christians are supposed to and it’s good for the economy. Plus Trump wants more too. How could he say No to all that? It’s the Flow, the Zeitgeist, the Welt something or other (German). Who is he to buck all that?

    Yet Christ said to do just that. As did Buddha. The Life that Abides in Light is against this fallen world and the downward current of this Iron Age. And the downward path is accelerating – as falling objects do. This Tower of Babel is going to hit very, very hard. Don’t be under it if you can help it.

    Christ: If the world hates you, remember it hated me first.

    • SoftStarLight October 9, 2019 at 12:42 am #

      Such a simple and beautiful truth. But a difficult and painful path sometimes nevertheless. But what greater pain will there be for those who knew they and those around them were falling but did nothing to stop the downward trajectory?

  75. Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 4:37 pm #

    Blacks, enraged at the attention Greta is getting, accuse her movement of White Supremacy. “Indigenous people have been warning of climate change for five hundred years.” In other words, it’s not due to industrial carbon emissions?

    Blacks are dummies and can’t do this kind of thing very well. But even without these “shock troops”, the Left is beginning to eat itself.


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    • Billy Hill October 8, 2019 at 8:32 pm #

      Went down the amren trail and landed at — trumpet fanfare — the New York Times treatment of the latest Tawana Brawley wannabe.

      The breaking news headline:
      Black Virginia Girl Says White Classmates Cut her Dreadlocks on Playground Sep27

      Wait a few days and:
      Virginia Girl Recants Story of Boy Cutting Off Her Dreadlocks Sep 30

      Nothing factually incorrect here, right? Oh admirer of Facts?

      • Send your issues, problems, and complaints to obsbudsman@nytimes.com

        • Janos Skorenzy October 9, 2019 at 12:23 am #

          Is that the same as a Gauleiter?

        • Nightowl October 9, 2019 at 5:18 am #

          Covered in Fakenews again.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 11:57 pm #

        She still had her nasty dreadlocks, yet White Lefties believed her anyway! The Empress has no dreads in reverse.

        See the documentary by Chris Rock. Black women get their hair from Kerala, India. Big business. They know their real hair is absolutely horrible compared to White hair or at least strong, long, black, Caucasian hair from India.

  76. BackRowHeckler October 8, 2019 at 5:29 pm #

    Don’t worry wokesters Plan Z says nothing about Celebrities fueling up their private 777s to fly to next weeks international climate change conference. There will always be plenty of fuel for people working to save the world. It’s the Walmart shoppers we’re worried about; they’re the ones f#kkin up the climate with their backyard cookouts, Remington Shotguns, and Chevy pickup trucks. Why do those ignorant f#kkers need electric lights for anyway? It’s not like they’re sitting up late reading Rimbaud. I know it gets cold in Idaho but who told these people to move to Idaho? So winter comes, they’re freezing their asses off, no money to fly to Aruba, using up barrels of heating oil that just as well could go to heat Obama’s and Kerry mansions on the Vineyard. It get’s cold on Martha’s Vineyard, too, goddamit! And these stupid, obese Walmart shoppers living in nowheresville are hogging the heating oil, f#kkin up the climate while denying good people like Kerry and Obama use of their seaside mansions during the winter holidays. Well, Plan Z will fix that.


    • Geez, so dramatic!

      Maybe this will swaddle you…

      Increases in the price of gas from $2.55 to $3.06 per gallon.

      Also, the price of a kilowatt hour will increase from $0.1014 to $0.1217

      Hope it doesn’t break your piggy bank!

      Happy fuckin’ Holidays

      • BackRowHeckler October 8, 2019 at 10:39 pm #

        That’s part of Plan Z, useless eaters.

        It’s all part of Plan Z.

  77. cc rider October 8, 2019 at 5:40 pm #

    The Campaign To Stop William Barr

    “…now the mystery is solved. The uproar is not about Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani investigating the former vice president. It’s about William Barr investigating Russiagate, which is far more important….”


    • 100th Avatar October 8, 2019 at 5:49 pm #

      Because, as some have known for years, it will expose the graft of the DNC, Clinton Inc., and the Obama administration in the Ukraine. Instead of money in Putin’s pocket it’s money in theirs, and the Ukraine gets some sovereignty for its mineral/gas robbing oligarchs as well. They don’t want to have to answer to Vlad.

      Putin doesn’t hide his despotism under the cloak of democracy like the Americans do.

      • benr October 9, 2019 at 10:05 am #

        Ding ding ding!
        Democrats accuse their opponents of the wrong doing that they are doing every time!
        Both parties have corruption no one can deny that but at the moment Democrats have risen higher on the corruption charts by attempting to use the power of government to go after their rivals.
        Worse they have stacked the deck to protect themselves from investigation and prosecution. Until this form of corruption is rooted out how can anyone proclaim anyone else is corrupt?
        All it takes is one of the cabal getting turned and the rats nest will go up like an inferno!

  78. Walter B October 8, 2019 at 6:20 pm #

    This is why I like RT, because they have the balls to print this stuff. You know, like we discuss here….


    • See… he slipped. Walter is a Russian agent.

      • Tate October 8, 2019 at 8:49 pm #

        You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. Or how much of a hard rain we’re gonna get.

        • Walter B October 8, 2019 at 9:00 pm #

          You do when you are a rule follower. There must be affirmation from a central authority. No individual thinking is allowed.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 9, 2019 at 12:32 am #

          Dylan, right? A good Jew. Before he became a Christian, he followed Guru Maharaji, a pudgy Hindu kid. He said, I would crawl across the face of the Earth to kiss the feet of the perfect master. Thank God Jesus got him out of that cult.

          • Tate October 9, 2019 at 1:12 pm #

            He was a prophet for the Boomers. But then like his generation, he sold out to “the Man” LOL.

  79. Pucker October 8, 2019 at 6:35 pm #

    Does Beto have pointed ears? Why does Beto look like a Vulcan? Whoever tailored Beto’s jacket must have either been brain damaged in a bad car accident or the subject of one of those 1960’s C…IA LSD experiments in that Atlanta prison? Who in Congress ever approved those LSD experiments anyway? Was that LBJ? Did that fucker, LBJ, do that?! Who-the-Hell calls himself LBJ anyway? Sounds like the acronym for “BJ”, or “Blow Job”. I wonder why Spock never mutinied and took control over the ship and sodomized Uhuru? I’m sure that it crossed his Vulcan mind? It has crossed my mind. It must have been torture for Mr. Spock to have to look at Uhuru’s legs all day with Uhuru occasionally teasing Spock by opening her thighs to give Spock a peak at her beaver? That’d drive this deer hunt’n, bass fish’n, tobacco-chew’n Good Ole Boy crazy. And why was the planet Vulcan named after the Roman God of the Forge? What gives? And why was Mr. Scott drunk all the time?

  80. Pucker October 8, 2019 at 6:56 pm #

    Whitey Bulger, in order to get out of working, “volunteered” to participate in the CI…A LSD experiments in the Atlanta prison. They gave Bulger huge doses of LSD hundreds of times over a very long period of time. I’ve read that “Normal” people and people with “Criminal” personalities experience LSD very differently. Whereas a “Normal” person is apt to experience LSD as somewhat “mind-expanding” and “enlightening”, a person with a “Criminal” personality is apt to have delusions of grandeur and to believe themselves to be demigods. They probably slipped LSD to Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Clinton, Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, John Bolton, and Trump, like Dr. McCoy was doing to Mr. Spock while implanting in Spock’s overactive human imagination that Uhuru was Horny for Mr. Spock. Don’t you think that the whole human experimentation “Thang” on prisoners, POW’s, and college students was “Really Weird”? Why-the-Hell did they experiment on college students?!

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    • Pucker October 8, 2019 at 7:03 pm #

      I suspect that “Uhuru” started out as a porn actress in Hollywood before landing the gig as “Uhuru” in the original Star Trek TV series? I read that this is a common career path for actors and actresses in Hollywood. I think that Sylvester Stallone started out doing porn, as did “Madonna”. Some people suggest that some child actors (including Leonardo DiCaprio) were victims of Hollywood pedophiles. It looks like there may have been some sexual grooming of Obama for purposes of mind control?

  81. cc rider October 8, 2019 at 7:33 pm #

    I think it is just sooooo sweet how George Dubya Bush and Ellen DeGeneres have become close, personal friends…..



    You see, Dubya is the “good” Republican. (Which is the message you’re supposed to get from this). He loves lesbians AND bombing the fuck out of middle eastern countries. Unlike Trump who won’t bomb the fuck out of those countries as much as Bolton and Mattis TRIED to get him to do. In fact he wants to pull out! Why Donald the Warmongers and profiteers haven’t even climaxed yet. How dare you!!

    And Ellen? Well she’ll just do whatever her handlers tell her to do. Like she did in the aftermath of the Las Vegas massacre. Remember? Oh yes……she’s a real trooper. A good little soldier.

    • Nightowl October 9, 2019 at 5:14 am #

      She had that war criminal on her show and pined for his return.

      The Resist movement is a joke. And so are its mindless followers.

      • cc rider October 9, 2019 at 8:41 am #

        I forgot to mention Dubya’s other new best buddy…..Michelle Obama. Of course her husband killed more innocent people with drones in his first term than even Dubya did in two full terms. Yessssss……the Nobel Peace Prize recipient.

        • Nightowl October 9, 2019 at 9:35 am #

          Obama also jailed more:) whistleblowers than all previous administrations in US history COMBINED.


        • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2019 at 9:38 am #

          How do you know they were innocent?

          • cc rider October 9, 2019 at 10:22 am #

            You’re a moron. Not worth conversing with.

          • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2019 at 1:28 pm #

            Well, maybe they’re guilty as hell and deserved to be droned. And if they weren’t bombed with drones they’d have to be bombed with fighter aircraft, putting our pilots at risk.


  82. Trump may have advance warning the rest of us don’t for a strategic decision to suddenly withdraw troops from northern Syria.

    • benr October 9, 2019 at 10:09 am #

      I just read Turkey is starting a campaign there.

  83. One things for sure, the situation isn’t optimal and the tweet to Erdogan was so over the top it must be compensating for something.

    Cover, it must be suspected, for the Kurds.

    On the ground Turkey is going to take over a real powder keg of human misery.

    Somehow if they pull it off correctly, they will be making the EU pay for it by the regular infusions of billions in official aid since the “Great migration”.

    Turkey, building a humane refugee camp out of northern Syria, which they have no formal claim to, and have to negotiate with Assad’s ally, in a smoking carrier off the coast, while watching ever warily at Damascus, where the madman with chemical weapons is hiding.

    And of course the CIA, NSA assets will stay, and the contractors mixed up among each side.

    So Istanbul might actually pull it off, getting Berlin to pay to undermine the UN and deliver the win for NATO.

    Putting Turkey out in front sets the stage for justified multilateral action against anyone that threatens Turkey’s right to safe passage.

    • capt spaulding October 8, 2019 at 9:22 pm #

      If the Kurds attack Turkey from the rear, will Greece help?

      • JohnAZ October 8, 2019 at 9:28 pm #

        Good point!

      • benr October 9, 2019 at 10:11 am #

        The sad part is the Kurd region is the safest area in that region.
        The Kurds are tough Turkey should actually stop messing with them.

      • Majella October 9, 2019 at 8:25 pm #


        • Majella October 10, 2019 at 4:03 am #

          Did no one else get that…? Capt you’re a gem.

          • Q. Shtik October 10, 2019 at 12:57 pm #

            That joke has been around for 50 years. Where have you been?

          • capt spaulding October 10, 2019 at 7:52 pm #

            It’s been around long enough that I think the patent has expired, and like they used to say: “It’s older than the shit on your boots”, back when the majority still worked on the farm..

          • Majella October 10, 2019 at 8:56 pm #

            Oh..new to me. Non-American-born, perhaps is why…

  84. JohnAZ October 8, 2019 at 9:28 pm #

    Hmmm. Thinking about Syria, Iraq and Iran

    Syria and Iraq are really good examples of how poorly diversity works in a nation state.

    I remember way back wondering why Iraq was made into a nation by the Allies after WW1. They took three ethnicities Kurds, Shia Islam and Sunni Islam and jammed them together and called it a nation. Always, it takes a strong man, Hussein, to hold this together. The moment we took him out, Iraq turned insane. Syria with Assad is the same with Shias, Sunnis, Jews and Christians, each a separate ethnic group. Europe saw the same thing in the Balkans when Tito expired.

    Now the US is right in the middle of the mess. We do not like Assad, Russia does. With Iraq, we do not have a clue. In both places, Iran, backed by Russia, is playing the power game and add on Turkey, who wants to obliterate the Kurds because they want to secede from Turkey and form Kurdistan.

    This region is crazy. Does the US really want to invest lives here? What are we getting out of it? Keeping ISIS in check? We have 1000 folks there in a region of millions, are we really doing anything? Are we protecting oil sources? For who? If the region was allowed to duke it out, we would probably have an eventual fractionalization into ethnic regions, split according to Islamic sect. And Israel. Iran, Israel and Saudi Arabia and the emirates. Is one going to rise and conquer the rest? This sounds like the Old Testament!

    Should the US try to stop this conversion? Are we headed for Armageddon? Should the US look at this failure of diversity co-existence as a portend of its own future? Maybe that is the motivation for our controlling interference there.

    Trump obviously is sick of having our troops there. Is he right to withdraw them, knowing what is coming? Should a regional realignment be done, without superpower interference to realign borders and ethnicities? Fat chance!

    This is still the hot spot for the world!

    • After WWI, the “Allies” had the US as merely a junior partner. The Brits fucked it up.

      • JohnAZ October 9, 2019 at 12:46 pm #

        You are right.

    • Majella October 9, 2019 at 8:27 pm #

      the ‘diversity’ you’re referring to here is religious, not ethnic. Your complaint about diversity in the US is entirely about ethnicity, with a co-incidental religious element where they happen to be middle eastern non-christian.

  85. Pucker October 8, 2019 at 9:53 pm #

    JOKER movie as Cultural Commentary

    When Joker puts on his Mask he becomes “Honest”.

    The Society is so dishonest that people have to put on a mask to be honest – a kind of moral inversion….

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    • “Give a man a mask and he will tell you the truth” – but more to the point, masks lift inhibition, and thus he will give you “his” version of the truth.

      Right now literally thousands of Hong Kongers are in the streets, wearing masks, Incredible.

      Beijing ordered masks illegal and brought the Hong Kongers into the streets. Fighting for their freedom in pitched street battles. Watching them we know what it is to take our institutions for granted.

      The right to not live in a surveillance state. For due process. For representation. Free Speech. Free elections.

      Its all on the line, right there for the free people of the West to observe at a remove.

      • BackRowHeckler October 8, 2019 at 10:29 pm #

        Yeah, but a PLA Division is forming up just outside city limits.

        • Beijing risks everything by moving in with force. Everything.

          • JohnAZ October 9, 2019 at 12:44 pm #

            Just like our friends in Moscow who have gotten away with force for a long time.

          • Tate October 9, 2019 at 1:20 pm #

            Right, we need another ‘W’ to bring freedumb & democracy to the rest of the world.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 11:44 pm #

        Another color revolution. The masks probably came in weeks ago – maybe even “made in China” on the mainland. Just like Hispanic protesters got factory made signs in perfect English.

        You people are so gullible. Communismw was supposed to tear down the old, the monarchies, republics, and theocracies and prepare them for World Government. That’s why the Capitalists funded them. It wasn’t supposed to found powerful new, independent states proud of their own People, History, and Traditions. China has gone full circle. Mao is now seen as just another Emperor. The Dragon is awake and is ready for you decadents, homos, and Negrophiles.

        When will you learn to follow the money, you silly Clown?

    • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 11:52 pm #

      Did you see the first Purge movie? The chief villain didn’t even wear a mask: his WASP face WAS the mask of evil. But he talked more sensibly than many here: We don’t want to kill our own people. That statement and the feeling behind it are the basis of Civilization. Many here are incapable of either understanding it, much less feeling it.

      • malthuss October 9, 2019 at 10:45 am #

        Did you see the first Purge movie? No.

      • Tate October 9, 2019 at 1:30 pm #

        Last week I saw Rambo: Last Blood. It’s the first movie I’ve seen on the “Big Screen” (cinema-plex) in over a year. I rather enjoyed it, especially the last 20 minutes. Rambo slipped back acrossed the border after committing a major outrage on one of the villain brothers but it was barely recognizable (the border) as a physical constraint. Just a wobbly barb wire fence.

        Build the wall!

        • Q. Shtik October 9, 2019 at 3:02 pm #


      • Majella October 9, 2019 at 8:30 pm #

        “Many here are incapable of either understanding it, much less feeling it.”

        Many here are not racists psychopaths, either.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2019 at 12:08 am #

          Says the White Anti-White Racist Maori Wannabe. That would make a great name, wouldn’t it? Maori Wannabe?

          • Majella October 10, 2019 at 8:57 pm #

            A Racist Psychopath makes a joke.

  86. 100th Avatar October 8, 2019 at 9:59 pm #

    Taking a break from this place allows the patter recognition to materialize.

    Steady and cyclical.

    What a program we’re in.

    Puppets, Ligotti style.

    • The singularity approaches.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 9, 2019 at 12:29 am #

        The Loser gets pushed into the Slime Pits at the edge of existence. Food for the Langoliers. The stakes couldn’t be higher.

        Steaks? Steaks? Did someone say Steaks? Cookout time! Crack open the beer. Have some potato salad with that steak. How do you like it? Rare? Black? Or just medium rare?

        Americans will take any “out” they can get. Thus do they slide towards the abyss.

        • Tate October 9, 2019 at 1:32 pm #

          Tailgat’n baby!

      • JohnAZ October 9, 2019 at 12:42 pm #

        Hey, Snacks. Did you hear that some astronomers think that the ninth planet being sought maybe a black hole? You may be more right than you think.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2019 at 11:46 pm #

      Your strings are threads. Mine are fishing line. And my Master gave me a Scissors. And he excused me from practicing trance too. I’m going to become a real boy in the coming festivities. Festival! Festival! The Archons are coming….!

  87. Janos Skorenzy October 9, 2019 at 12:20 am #

    You can’t tell a book by its cover? Sure you can for the most part – if you know books. The inner leaves marks or signs of itself on the outer after all. People too? People too. If they don’t look like you, they ain’t like you for the most part.

    We are ruled by people who know the signs (thus they separate themselves) and who use Magoos like John Az (who can’t read the signs) as their henchmen and catspaws.

    At the level of microcosm or individual, the same laws apply. Evil will try to hide itself by pretending to be appear good. How many women have you known who had an absolute passion for appearing to virtuous rather than actually being so? Oops, I dropped back into groups again, but no matter. The Single or Cyclops Eye can see thru all pretences, be they racial, sexual, or individual. No one can hide what they are completely. Their natural face will appear once when situation or encounter ends and before another begins. Look and then you will See.

    And of course as Christ said, By their fruits you shall know them. If you can’t See directly, at least you should be able to see the fruits of their actions.

  88. BackRowHeckler October 9, 2019 at 12:49 am #

    Yes, Plan Z

    Scrubbing the world of useless eaters and Walmart shoppers, the ones cooking the planet with their pickups and raised ranches, burning oil to keep their little brats warm and fed, Plan Z will deal with them.

    We have our shock troops, they’re in the streets of your cities each Friday, raising hell. They are young and enthusiastic. Soon they’ll be in your town, blowing up gas pipelines, burning fuel storage tanks, smashing up filling stations, COOLING PLANET EARTH!!! You were warned, useless eaters. Now is the time for action. That’s Plan Z.

    Michael Bloomberg, Tom Steyer, George Soros and a thousand Climate Change billionaires you’ve never heard of … want their world squeaky clean. Plan Z is the answer.


    • malthuss October 9, 2019 at 6:33 pm #

      Michael Bloomberg, Tom Steyer, George Soros and a thousand
      leftist bagels.

  89. Kiashu October 9, 2019 at 1:55 am #

    I didn’t twang you by email, but I would like to see a broadening of the topics discussed. It’s getting a wee bit repetitive.

    “Until recently, all Americans had very firm objections to kangaroo courts and star chambers where the common-law safeguards of due process are thrown out the window.”

    You’ve not heard of a place called Guantanamo? Once anyone is denied natural justice, eventually everyone will be.

    • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2019 at 7:38 am #

      Natural justice?

      Since at least the 18th century one of the laws of warfare is that if you are caught on the battlefield bearing arms and you are out of uniform, your fate is immediate execution. Lincoln had dozens of Confederate guerillas hung in Virginia and Missouri in 1864 and 1865, southern partisans who continued the fight after their army units had been disbanded. In 1945 German ‘Werewolves’, German partisans who continued to fight after Germany surrendered, were executed by firing squad. I would say these Muslim radicals held in Guantanomo should consider themselves fortunate.


      • benr October 9, 2019 at 10:22 am #


        Don’t forget Lincolns prison barges on the rivers people held their for years with zero due process!!
        Rat infested, rotten food and malaria to boot.
        Firing squad may have been better and lest we forget the south had their own version of hell.
        Guitmo is a paradise compared to what those Islamic Jihadist (little jihad) would do to anyone they captured!
        Either held for ransom or tortured and then your head sawed off with a rusty dull knife like Daniel Pearl and James Foley.
        Yea fsck that nonsense!

        • Q. Shtik October 9, 2019 at 12:23 pm #

          Yea fsck that nonsense! – benr


          Please Google ‘yea vs yeah.’

          • Janos Skorenzy October 9, 2019 at 1:29 pm #

            Can’t say fuck. And English isn’t his first language, obviously. I’m remembering a certain Israeli poster…..

          • GreenAlba October 10, 2019 at 7:48 am #

            “Can’t say fuck. ”

            Haha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahahahahaha.

            This from someone who says ‘go to the bathroom’ when he specifically means not in a bathroom. 🙂

        • Janos Skorenzy October 9, 2019 at 1:28 pm #


          • malthuss October 9, 2019 at 6:34 pm #

            I do not remember..was he the guy who lived in Manhattan?

          • Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2019 at 12:09 am #

            No, that was Danny, also a Jew though.

  90. Pucker October 9, 2019 at 2:50 am #

    A Witness To The Collapse

    Paul Craig Roberts

    A terrible fear has come over me. Observing its rate of collapse, I am likely to outlive Western Civilization, or what little remains of it.

    British Labour Party Jeremy Corbyn thinks he can get elected prime minister by promising to open the UK’s border to all comers and to house them by seizing houses and office blocks. This, of course, means a Camp of the Saints moment for Great Britain. So many Brits are so far gone that Corbyn thinks this is a winning platform.

    The current French president and German chancellor, as well as the European Union bosses, hold the same view. There is to be no Europe. Only Hungary, Italy, and Poland dissent and insist on remaining Hungarian, Polish, and Italian.

    Alas, the Democratic Party in the US has the same view as Corbyn. One of the reasons they want to impeach Trump is that he is, as head of the executive branch, trying against the Democrats’ opposition to enforce the immigration laws of the United States.

    The current stock of Democrats are just like the current stock of CEO and boards of directors. They are short-run focused. What they can get right now is all that is important. More money by sending American jobs abroad and hiring foreigners on work visas, by open borders that bring in cheaper labor and immigrant votes for Democrats. Hello “performance bonuses,” Goodbye America.

    But when the short-run lengthens into the long-run, the third world immigrants have the country. The hatred that Identity Politics, the ideology of the Democratic Party and the American liberal/progressive/left, teaches against white people and the hatred that radical feminists teach against men, implies genocide and total social collapse. It is happening so rapidly that I believe I am going to watch it happen.

    For example: My September 30 column, “Feminism Has Ruined Women and Damaged Men,” produced many letters from men and women affirming that “you are right on!” Many said that feminism, once a movement to give women alternatives to marriage and motherhood, has become an ideological attack on men in which even consensual sexual intercourse between husband and wife was rape.

    We now have “wife rape” laws which give wives power over their husbands, just as we have child abuse laws that give the child power over the parents and the government power over the family.

    Feminism has essentially destroyed the relationship between men and women. Feminism has made women selfish. They do what they want to do regardless of its emotional and other effects on the man. If the man complains, the woman takes it as proof that he is sexist and unsupportive. Women think their vagina lets them do whatever they want to do. Women are told that their power is that men will do anything for sex. That’s not true. Except for a few womanizers, what the British called “rakes,” men want loving mutually-supportive relationships. They can’t find them.

    In my day homosexuals were non-existent. We thought it was a myth, like unicorns. Today homosexuality has exploded. How do we know that the extraordinary increase in homosexuality is not men giving up on women?

    Women are so untrustworthy today that corporations have to pay for insurance policies to protect their male executives from false sexual harassment charges from female employees. Corporate rules are in place that when a corporate group is on a business trip, the male and female employees must stay in separate hotels, and that no male employee can go to dinner with a female employee. The male employees have to attend seminars on how to protect themselves from sexual harrassment charges. I have heard from CEOs and boards about how stupid they were to help women through the “glass ceiling” as the consequence is endless #Me/Too problems that divert the energy of the organization.

    Yes, of course, some men get turned on by women and behave inappropriately. In my day that was handled by a slap. Apparently, it is only today’s feminist women who can’t keep a man in check.

    The House Democrats are conducting an “impeachment investigation” despite the facts that they know they have no evidence of any offence and that there is no possibility that the Senate would convict. The House Democrats know that all they are doing is throwing mud hoping that some will stick on Trump and reduce his chance of reelection.

    As for the the charge that a Ukrainian president was told to do a favor in exchange for a payment, the record is crystal clear that it was Biden who gave the Ukrainian president 6 hours to do as he is told or forfeit one billion dollars of US taxpayers’ money. Biden bragged on it before the Council of Foreign Relations. The boast is captured on video. I posted it. It is all over the Internet. The Ukrainian prosecutor himself gave sworn testimony that he was fired on Biden’s orders. The prosecutor was investigating a firm from which Biden’s son was collecting huge sums in exchange for his father’s protection of the corrupt firm. The evidence is clear.

    But what do we hear from the media, especially the CNN and NPR whores? We hear that the charges against Biden are just politics, but that the charges against Trump, unsupported by the evidence, require Trump’s impeachment.

    Here we have both the entirety of the Democratic Party and the entirety of the media denying the truth and relying on the endless repetition of lies to convince enough insouciant people to vote the Democrats in. Once in, the Democrats will adopt Corbyn’s platform, and Americans will have a Camp of the Saints experience.

    The US and Great Britain were once the “free nations,” imbued with civil liberty, individual conscience, free speech, Christian moral values, and a rule of law. But no more.

    A British tribunal just fired a British doctor for refusing to call a 6-foot tall bearded man “madam” and condemned the doctor’s “lack of belief in transgenderism” as “incompatible with human dignity and in conflict with the fundamental rights of others.” https://www.rt.com/uk/470190-transgender-bible-doctor-fired-uk/

    In other words, the doctor is not entitled to his own beliefs or opinions because other more highly regarded peoples’ beliefs take precedence over his.

    This is increasingly the case throughout the Western World.

    If you have wondered about the total disappearance of investigative journalism in the UK and its near disappearance in the US, look no further than this document from the UK Ministry of Defense that lists investigative journalists as threats to UK national security. https://russia-insider.com/en/society/uk-ministry-war-says-investigative-journalists-among-top-threats-right-there-spies-and

    Freedom of the press is now considered inconsistent with national security.

    Thus the fates of Julian Assange and Manning are sealed. As Karen Kwiatkowski recently said, it is time to “Run!” https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/10/03/the-treatment-of-julian-assange-proves-that-there-is-no-law-moral-conscience-or-civilization-left-in-the-west/

    But to where? It is the same all over the Western world.

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    • messianicdruid October 9, 2019 at 5:01 am #

      “And the Dems will shove everyone else aside and start claiming Hillary was cheated last time (in order to get sympathy votes), and how it’s only fair she should be in the White House instead of the Donald.”

      Owen Benjamin explains the ‘why’ of feminist camaraderie.


    • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2019 at 7:26 am #

      Speaking of collapse, listening to BBC this morning on my way home, apparently Haiti is — once again — in a state of total economic and social collapse to the extent that famine conditions prevail, and any kind of commerce and medical care for citizens is non existant. Part of the problem seems to be there are no longer any subsidized oil shipments coming into the country from Venezuela, so any kind of international aid cannot be offloaded and transported to those who need it (everybody) The government, such as it exists, is corrupt to the extreme, law enforcement is nowhere to be seen, gangs with machetes run the streets. Who knew? It sounds like a hellish scenario. Lately we’ve been hearing dire warnings of a dystopian future if we do not curb the use of fossil fuels. Well here is a case right now where collapse is at hand partly because there is no fuel for motor transport, and food and medical supplies lie rotting at the docks.


      • JohnAZ October 9, 2019 at 12:37 pm #


        The same situation is occurring in Central America.

        The common denominator is a bunch of power lords trying to follow Cuba and its socialism to maintain power.

        The people are not putting up with it, are leaving and coming here.

        The problem is we do not have room for them either. Their power lords do not care, they are a problem that went elsewhere to them

        The US is the garbage can for failed socialism. Cuba, Haiti, Venezuela, Central America, northern Mexico, all are failed socialistic states fueled by Cuba, fueled by the USSR, not Russia.

      • Exscotticus October 9, 2019 at 4:22 pm #

        >>> apparently Haiti is — once again — in a state of total economic and social collapse

        I suggest we don’t get involved. After all, we wouldn’t want to be sued trying to help.

        Haiti’s breeder culture is unsustainable, and only perpetuates due to outside aid. Perhaps AOC should try her grand experiments in socialism with no fossil fuels in Haiti, and let us know how they work out?

    • stelmosfire October 9, 2019 at 11:51 am #

      So Puck, would you give it up to Matt Lauer for 100 million?


      I don’t know who is worth more. Probably Cliff Huxstable.


    • Janos Skorenzy October 9, 2019 at 1:35 pm #

      The West brought this on itself with its damnable Capitalist ethos of money being everything and that if you weren’t rich, you were nothing. Thus people were encouraged to throw away all restraint – in fact, they were considered virtuous for so doing.

      • 100th Avatar October 9, 2019 at 4:16 pm #

        Restraint, the social contract, borders, environment, etc.
        And why not?
        Clearly, only the wealthy, and the powerful by way of wealth, have a say in things of this world.
        If you want to be free, you must be rich, and fabulously so.

        Money controls everything. Capital control.
        The west ceded authority when they turned to markets and the mob over the crown and vassals.
        From yeoman farmers to Cargill serfs.

    • Majella October 10, 2019 at 9:44 pm #

      Look at all the actual corruption…!


      (hat tip to wpa_ccc)

  91. tucsonspur October 9, 2019 at 4:46 am #

    Fox beat me to it:

    “Schiff happens!”

    • SoftStarLight October 9, 2019 at 8:05 am #

      I don’t like him.

  92. tucsonspur October 9, 2019 at 5:46 am #

    A word to the foolish and the wise:

    The Eagle and the Mole
    by Elinor Wylie

    Avoid the reeking herd,
    Shun the polluted flock,
    Live like that stoic bird,
    The eagle of the rock.

    The huddled warmth of crowds
    Begets and fosters hate;
    He keeps above the clouds
    His cliff inviolate.

    When flocks are folded warm,
    And herds to shelter run,
    He sails above the storm,
    He stares into the sun.

    If in the eagle’s track
    Your sinews cannot leap,
    Avoid the lathered pack,
    Turn from the steaming sheep.

    If you would keep your soul
    From spotted sight or sound,
    Live like the velvet mole:
    Go burrow underground.

    And there hold intercourse
    With roots of trees and stones,
    With rivers at their source,
    And disembodied bones.

    “Ah, my friends from the prison, they ask unto me
    “How good, how good does it feel to be free?”
    And I answer them most mysteriously
    ‘Are birds free from the chains of the skyway?'” Dylan

    • Janos Skorenzy October 9, 2019 at 1:38 pm #

      Go above or below but Go.

      Where does Wylie end and Dylan begin?

      • tucsonspur October 10, 2019 at 4:37 am #

        In many places oh wise one, many places in the mirrors of the mind and the subterranean subdivisions of the soul.

  93. SoftStarLight October 9, 2019 at 8:19 am #

    What’s clear above all else with this whole faux impeachment frenzy is that Congress has no intention of doing anything beneficial for the American public. Essentially this is a strike since Congressional members are theoretically employees of the taxpayers. And so the business of the nation languishes. So who do all of these people work for? I suspect some of those they work for are not citizens at all! Kinda like how most media outlets have no interest in covering objective reality. That’s not what their paid to do.

    • JohnAZ October 9, 2019 at 9:33 am #

      The Deep State is doing everything it can to repudiate the American public. The Dems are the leader of the pack with this and they hate the Deplorables, 50% of the public. We are blocking their ascent to uniparty control, and they will ignore us to go to the next level.

    • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2019 at 10:05 am #


      On a brighter note, at least we are no longer hearing about the stupid gun control schemes the Dems want to implement. ‘Impeachment’ has cleared the decks.


      • benr October 9, 2019 at 10:28 am #

        As if they can afford to ignore that!
        How else can they over throw our government and bring in their perfect utopia of Socialist paradise?
        The American people must be disarmed but in order to do that we must be fattened up, poisoned with toxic food and dumbed and in a trance from our un-smart phones to the point we are so apathetic about everything we won’t notice the globalist maw eating our country, our lives and destroying our children!
        They want our children most of all to be abused and tossed aside when done. Hell they are even brain washing the children to turn their parents on like Stalinist Russia or Fascist Germany!

        • Janos Skorenzy October 9, 2019 at 1:41 pm #

          Ben – it’s turn their parents in not on. Sheesh. Does Israel have no colloquial English classes?

      • SoftStarLight October 9, 2019 at 11:53 am #

        Ah but don’t let yourself get complacent Brh. You know they will never let go of that desire to disarm us. We know for sure they want to be able to hunt us. The fact that they banned that movie just proves how serious they are IMO.

  94. SoftStarLight October 9, 2019 at 8:37 am #

    If one no longer lives in a nation where the rule of law prevails then it seems as if one could utilize extra-legal means to secure power. Isn’t that what we are witnessing today? Does the Supreme Court issue legislative rulings or is that Congress’ job? Does anyone care anymore? Jesus said to render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. What if there is no Caesar anymore? Perhaps the power vaccum is a turn of fortune? If only one was willing to take the bull by the horns. The right one and the right bull of course!

    • JohnAZ October 9, 2019 at 10:00 am #

      Power vacuums usually provide evil, power driven results. That is why the Founders wanted seamless transitions of power, which up to now have worked well.

      The balance of powers concept usually pertains to the balance of power in the decision making entity of the government, the Congress. The president is the decision maker for execution of the Congress’ decisions. Even the VP has the power to break the Congressional balance with his vote. So the executive branch breaks impasses in the government. Until now.

      I do not criticize Trump much, but his lack of decisiveness and his staff selections have been horrendous. IMHO, I think he went to DC with the idea, narcissism showing, that he was going to control the idiocy of the Deep State by his deal making. That has miserably failed. We are now seeing a more combative side of Trump as he tries to cut the House Dems legs out from under them. The war is joined. The final battle will be next years election. Trump wins, the Dems will have to withdraw and regroup. The Dems win, Potentially HRC will rise up and provide impetus to change the US forever to socialism and more control control. The RINOs try to regroup but traitors never succeed.

      The losing side may never regroup, as demographics continue to shift according to the politics de jour. One thing is certain, the next 13 months are going to be brutal.

      • SoftStarLight October 9, 2019 at 12:02 pm #

        And can we really even trust the vote tally anymore, if ever we could? We know illegals vote in large numbers. And isn’t that officially ok in Cali and NYS (probably among others)?

        • JohnAZ October 9, 2019 at 12:12 pm #

          Vermont is in the process of legitimatizing illegal votes.

          • Majella October 9, 2019 at 8:42 pm #


            Once again, not quite accurate…or should I say, ‘economic’ with the facts:

            “Montpelier citizens passed a charter change on November 6, 2018, that would afford full voting rights in municipal elections to any legal non-citizens residing in the city.[62] Approval by the legislature (required for the measure to take effect) is still pending. A similar proposal was discussed by the city council in Winooski, but the proposal was defeated.[63]”

            Please note – it is

            a) referring to LEGAL non-citizens residing in the city; and

            b) it is limited to municipal elections – not state and certainly not federal.

    • benr October 9, 2019 at 10:34 am #

      Except in this bizzaro world it might not be the horn you grab at but hey anything goes in this upside down backwards society.
      It’s 2019 after all perversion is no longer perversion it’s normal and what is normal now after all even the child abusers are attempting to gain traction in the rainbow movement.
      Why not take your little child on down to the library to have story time with a man dressed up as a weird women.
      That’s right little timmy climb up in that mans lap it’s ok he had a back ground check done on him…as if!

      My god they even have their own website.

      Or the truth of what is going on!


      • SoftStarLight October 9, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

        I know! Aren’t they gross! It seems like even several years ago that drag queens were quirky people performing in Bourbon Street clubs that only adults can get into. Now they have parties at libraries with four year olds where they roll around on the floor with them. The parents of the poor kids need a mental evaluation at least, right?

        • JohnAZ October 9, 2019 at 12:15 pm #

          The real question though is where is all the perverted parenting coming from? Why is the average Joe and Jill becoming a pervert sexually?

          • SoftStarLight October 9, 2019 at 12:40 pm #

            Well it’s a multi-faceted problem. The lack of a moral center, the constant barage of morally ambivalent messaging throughout all forms of media. The hookup culture, etc., etc. And there is always selfishness and the problem of hyper-individuality.

    • volodya October 9, 2019 at 11:06 am #

      I’ve wondered the same sort of thing. The kind of misbehavior we’ve seen from intel and investigative agencies and congress and the judicial branch (the Deep State) changes the political and societal landscape. It moves the boundaries between what’s permissible and what’s not. 

      So, if it’s ok for the country’s civil servants to try to overturn an election by – cough – “legal” means with the assist of fraudulent accusations, what actions are off the table the next time? You’ve seen it in discussions here, Trump is so odious that the end (of getting him out of office) justifies the means. But this changes the rules for everybody and not just the complainants this time around.
      “Extra-legal” covers a lot of ground. The US not only has wide areas of economically ruined territory with millions of wrecked individuals and families but is dotted with heavily armed militias, bristling with high-powered weaponry, and blessed with a great many military veterans with combat experience. To call this a powder-keg is to understate the case. 

      I wonder what the “progressive” brain-trust was and is thinking, aligning themselves so obviously with big-money and against all the above aggrieved actors. I wonder just what the hell judges are thinking inserting themselves so blatantly into policy decisions, pulling “constitutional” justifications outta their asses when the policy in question doesn’t suit their ideological taste. When you start to break the rules you’re begging for others to break them too. Can they not see that they just beg for the insertion of extra-judicial actors with their own agendas? If judges show contempt for contrary views and act outside their area, then they’re baiting guys with robust ideas of their own, who, like judges, may not accept limits on their own actions. It doesn’t take genius to see what’s ahead. 

      If everyone stays inside the lines and mind the business they were mandated to mind, this may not get so serious. But there’s people – expensively educated people – that ought to know better, that apparently don’t. 

      • SoftStarLight October 9, 2019 at 12:15 pm #

        You’re right V. They have changed the rules of the game but I don’t know that they’ve spent much time considering what that really means at the end of the day. Most of the men, and some women, who populate the police forces and military are from deplorable families so it will be very interesting to see how “they” back up their edicts. This is clearly one reason they love and worship the UN. They intend to weaponize migrants as well as far as I am concerned.

      • JohnAZ October 9, 2019 at 12:22 pm #

        Each generation of instructors is getting dumber and more liberal. Rational thinking and horse sense are not respected, heck, not even accepted any more. That is what is weakening the country.

        Gee, I wonder who might be behind that trend.

        The morning idiocracy is the Mayor of Minneapolis who is trying to charge Trump $500000 for security at his rally, and freely admits that it is to stop him having the rally. “We don’t want his disruptive rally’s here”.

        Anybody tell that idiot that free speech is a right in this country.

        Another reminder of why I despise militant Leftists so much.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 9, 2019 at 1:46 pm #

      The power should then re-sort to smaller groups of State, City, Town, or Country. That’s the Aryan way – not waiting passively for some Big Freak in Washington to grab it all. Unless He proved himself worthy by his Deeds, not his Words. Trump is simply a great Mouth.

      • SoftStarLight October 9, 2019 at 11:31 pm #

        I agree. And really, it’s not that there has to be one or “the one”. It could be two or more just as easily. The most important thing being our survival and the hope that one day we can thrive again.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2019 at 12:12 am #

          Exactly. The more the better, at least for a time. If it’s natural, they’ll all unite again someday. But obviously you can’t unite health and sickness or wisdom and folly.

      • elysianfield October 10, 2019 at 12:48 pm #

        ” That’s the Aryan way – not waiting passively for some Big Freak in Washington to grab it all.”

        But…but Hitler?

  95. SoftStarLight October 9, 2019 at 9:21 am #

    If I didn’t know anything about American society other than what I see from commercials on youtube I would think that the majority of the population was black, with a smaller but substantial population of miscellaneous and mostly racially ambiguous browns, and a super tiny minority of whites who mostly intermarry with everyone but their own. The tiny tiny population of whites also appears to have black and brown children even when the mom and dad (in those rarer but very unspecial instances of hetero activity) are both white. Must be those dominant genes talking!

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    • JohnAZ October 9, 2019 at 9:43 am #

      The blacks are 13%, the Latinos are 24%, and various smaller percentages.

      Hmmm. So if the “Whites” are the remainder, what the heck is going on?

      Is the worst enemy of the “white” contingent of the US, other whites?


      A controlled border, and not just Latinos, is required to stop this. Dirty manual labor is not desired by American workers and their is an unfilled demand for laborers for these jobs. Resources to support any extra folks in the US are at their limits, no, they are $22 trillion past their limits. Uncontrolled population growth in the US due to illegal immigration IS going to destroy us. Letting in the “right” amount of immigrants to work and go home is necessary. No more.

      • SoftStarLight October 9, 2019 at 12:27 pm #

        White Americans, particularly and most especially the hoighty toighty, need to familiarize themselves with manual labor, sweat, and pain. Better to do it voluntarily than be suddenly forced into it. We don’t need foreigners to do these jobs we need the meth heads and bar flies to do them. Yes, an investment in our own people is so badly needed. Forced rehab and labor may be the only answer. But who will have the fortitude, determination, and love of country to take the rough and tough steps? We know what happens if they don’t….brown flood.

        • JohnAZ October 9, 2019 at 12:57 pm #


          I wish you were right. In today’s world, Americans drop out, move to the coasts and go homeless. Why? Because our Liberal government pays them welfare to do it. Forced rehab and labor camps sounds like the old USSR, but you may be right. First though, try letting them starve. Cut them off from welfare. Without money, they do not have funds for drugs, Voila, rehab happens. Then they get hungry.

          Due to welfare, the brown flood continues!

          Ever think that the reason this does not happen is that the government is right in the middle of the drug trade? Keep those losers quiet.

          • JohnAZ October 9, 2019 at 12:59 pm #

            To stop the brown flood, a barrier is needed.

          • GreenAlba October 10, 2019 at 11:58 am #

            “Without money, they do not have funds for drugs, Voila, rehab happens. ”

            Having been burgled myself by an opportunist intending to sell my bits and pieces at the pub to pay for his next fix (this was the police diagnosis, which I have no particular reason to doubt), I think maybe increased crime may come rather than rehab.

        • volodya October 9, 2019 at 1:21 pm #

          The best idea Mao had was exactly that, to make the urban intelligentsia in China re-locate to the country-side and bust their humps doing manual labor with the country-folk. Gives some knowledge as to where food comes from and how hard it is to make things grow and how much work it is. It bugs me no end when ordinary workers, whether they’re in factories or warehouses or wherever, get looked down on by the – ahem – educated. These “educated” have no idea that their lives depend on the people they look down on.

          In my humble opinion the guys that haul away the garbage provide a much more valuable service to civilization than some weasel (like me) talking shit in a corporate board room or fucking with numbers on a spread sheet.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 9, 2019 at 1:59 pm #

            But he did it stupidly, having old men whose knowledge was needed labor in the fields unto exhaustion and heart attacks. The Israelis did a much better job of it with the Kibbutz movement. All kinds of idealistic young University types were thrilled to be a part of it. Most wouldn’t stay, but as far as getting people to see life as a whole, it worked. Have no idea if it still doing the same kind of outreach or if it’s just become the province of Jewish fundamentalists at this point.

          • I have been on both sides of the fence, and believe me, the idea of the noble peasant is bullshit unless you’re a peasant, and then it becomes pathology.

            The worst of the working class was always its own worst enemy. Full of shit, self-destructive, prideful.

            Garbage men make a solid middle class wage and pay union dues where I live.

            Your average low-paid service worker is the new lower class. Educated, in debt, in a gig economy. You think the garbageman is jealous of that? When you have self-esteem you don’t feel the urge to cast shade.

          • Q. Shtik October 9, 2019 at 3:10 pm #

            or fucking with numbers on a spread sheet. – vol


            Hey, wait just a damn minute! That’s what I did for 40+ years.

          • Exscotticus October 9, 2019 at 4:32 pm #

            Yes what a great idea sending MD doctors to the fields merely because they were his political enemies.

            The city professionals were an extra burden on farmers, who were already starving trying to deal with Mao’s other “great” idea: exporting food China needed for hard foreign currency they did not.

          • malthuss October 10, 2019 at 12:21 am #

            The best idea Mao had was exactly that, to make the urban intelligentsia in China re-locate to the country-side and
            with that greap leap 30-40 million starved and some became cannibals.

          • volodya October 10, 2019 at 10:45 am #

            Q, so tell me, do guys like us do as much good as garbagemen? Are we a net detriment?

            Imagine if we didn’t have them. Imagine if they didn’t have us.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 9, 2019 at 1:55 pm #

        No John. You see people aren’t just economic building blocks. Those People have their own Collective Psyches and are bound and determined to conquer Us and take America for their own. Any White who denies the Collective Psyche of White Americans is an Enemy of White America – which is the only real America.

        And Yes, John. That means from our point of view, We are better than they are. If you don’t have that POV, you don’t belong with us.
        You claim to be a nationalist, but you are really a universalist, a globalist, and thus a Wolf in Sheep’s clothing.

        Is a person just their body? What about the mind? And the soul. Likewise for the nation: Nations have minds and souls. And those who attack that latter are every bit as much enemies as those who attack the body. Far more dangerous because subtle. As Cicero said, the Enemy within is the most deadly.

        John doesn’t know he’s the enemy – and that makes him more dangerous still, his sincerity being a most profound suit of armor.

    • benr October 9, 2019 at 11:05 am #

      Yea it must be rubbed in peoples faces that being white and heterosexual and with another white person or the opposing sex is abnormal.
      Diversity is great until it’s not.
      This is propaganda nothing more.

      • Q. Shtik October 9, 2019 at 12:30 pm #

        Yea it must be rubbed in

        • Nightowl October 9, 2019 at 4:43 pm #

          You forgot the comma, gamma boy.

        • elysianfield October 10, 2019 at 12:53 pm #

          “Yea it must be rubbed in”

          And…and verily (As in good and hard).

  96. JohnAZ October 9, 2019 at 10:08 am #

    Turkey has invaded the Kurdish part of Syria.

    Tell Trump what he should do.

    Back the Kurds and go against a NATO ally?

    Back the Turks and watch the Kurds be subjugated.

    Stay neutral and watch a blood bath? Also, watch the fundamentalists, ISIS especially, regenerate and start their Caliphate drive again. That will reflect back into Al Queda in Afghanistan.

    Guess who is right in the middle stirring the pot. Iran.

    And guess who is fighting the proxy war through all the cast of characters, our friends in Russia.

    Now, considering all the counter currents driving the situation, tell GGG what to do.

    And do not forget the heart of the matter, protection of Saudi Arabia and its oil.

    • ellipsis October 9, 2019 at 10:16 am #

      Blowback is indeed a bitch. Quite the dilemma here. When in doubt, do nothing at all, especially when one’s own past actions have led to the problem in the first place. By the way, your three choices and two following assertions are all just assumptions. None of them are necessarily correct.

      • JohnAZ October 9, 2019 at 12:23 pm #

        That is right, but I would not like to have to make his decision right now.

        • capt spaulding October 9, 2019 at 8:08 pm #

          If he can use Kurdish POWs to construct his tower, that’s a win. Keeps ’em busy, so they’re not planning escapes. That’s how Donald do it.

    • stelmosfire October 9, 2019 at 11:11 am #

      This is not good.Not good at all.

      • stelmosfire October 9, 2019 at 11:15 am #

        Just a minor dust-up. Yea OK. That’s what they said about Archduke Franz.. To the trenches boys!

        • stelmosfire October 9, 2019 at 11:19 am #

          We didn’t start the fire.

          • stelmosfire October 9, 2019 at 11:22 am #

            The Queen is gonna kick some Ass!

          • stelmosfire October 9, 2019 at 11:29 am #

            She’s a tough ol’ bird I’ll give her that!. WWII battleaxe.

          • sprawlcapital October 9, 2019 at 10:02 pm #

            Dien Bien Phu falls, and we never learn, do we?

          • GreenAlba October 10, 2019 at 11:53 am #

            “Dien Bien Phu falls…”

            Always sticks in my mind – the first film my (French) ex-husband took me to in the 70s, when I first met him, was La République est morte à Dien Bien Phu.

            And they say romance is dead.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 9, 2019 at 2:09 pm #

      America is dying and we are supposed to care? Fuck that. The Kurds look just like other Arabs or Turks and behave like them. There have been many famous Kurdish Jihadis – Saladin himself in fact.

      Going into the Middle East was folly. Let them all kill each other. NATO is completely evil as well. The Turks want to join in order to take Europe for their own.

      We matter, they don’t. The Four Magic Words. We can’t save ourselves without them. Or if you prefer, We’re better than them – these are the best four for you since it hits your basic illusion. And yeah, every healthy people have these two sets of four magic words. Did you knot know that? To the extent Christianity fights these magic words, to that extent Christianity is a disease. Note: I didn’t say you couldn’t help other peoples, but the “helpers” now help by betraying their own people. The Missionaries are just servants of Satan at this point.

  97. stelmosfire October 9, 2019 at 12:21 pm #

    Why the flying fuck is this my fight?

    • JohnAZ October 9, 2019 at 12:27 pm #

      The allies after WW1 and Breton Woods and its aftermath from WW2 make it our fight. The Deep State section MIC make it our fight.

      Trump is attempting to say no. As usual, everybody is telling him he is wrong. If he decides the opposite, they will still tell him he is wrong. Can’t win.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 9, 2019 at 2:22 pm #

        He will be wrong no matter what he does because the entire system is wrong, based on erroneous principles as developed by evil men. Victory means knocking the board over or cutting the Gordian Knot like Alexander did. You don’t like that though, right? One want to be good! As if “good” men create anything or made America…..

        As Eysenck found, there is a very high correlation between irrascibility and creativity.

        Nothing is more dangerous than the status quo, yet nothing is more dear to you. Trump is status quo all the way. That’s why he’s doomed because they don’t accept him. He’s part of the losing faction, the Zionist Faction. Interesting struggle, but both sides are vehemently Anti-American and Anti-White, the Communists openly and the Zionists secretly.

    • Are you thumbing this in from a bombed out building in Aleppo?

  98. BackRowHeckler October 9, 2019 at 1:06 pm #

    Well, the plan now — if Liz Warren wins next year, and she has a plan for everything — is turn over The US Department of Energy to ‘Climate Strike’, which will be run by a committee of hysterical teenage girls.

    Plan Z will be initiated.

    Plan Z, Prime Directive #1

    “In such case gasoline, kerosene, heating oil and any and all liquid fuels are banned, in a righteous and necessary measure to keep planet earth from catastrophically warming, an as yet unspecified amount of jet fuel will continued to be manufactured and set aside for the use of show business celebrities and celebrity billionaires private 747 aircraft, not solely to attend ‘Climate Change Conferences’ in exotic overseas resorts, but for other uses as well.”


    • Janos Skorenzy October 9, 2019 at 2:16 pm #

      AOC just said that prisons need to be banned too. Warren/AOC in 2020, with Greta as High Priestess of the State Green Religion. This would be just what is needed, a Casus Belli for revolt. Her Victory is greatly to be desired, is it not? As opposed to the dithering Orange Blob who is just running out the clock on White America, a time honored Republican tradition.

      • Prisons are a legitimate subject of policy. She should be commended for bringing it up.

        The best Obama could do was walk through a Supermax dodging the sperm flung at him.

        Trump may as well put in some reforms before he finds himself in a cell sleeping next to Rudy Giuliani

        • Exscotticus October 9, 2019 at 4:43 pm #

          The current state of our prisons is not merely due to the executive, but to all branches of government (hint, AOC, there are three!).

          The legislative branch continues to pass laws making this illegal, that illegal, fines here, jail time there—without allocating the funds to build the jails to accommodate the new laws.

          The executive branch is guilty as well, since no law gets enacted without them signing off on it. And no leader wants to look soft on crime! They also co-run the prisons.

          The judicial branch is guilty, too, as they micromanage the executives running the prisons. Judges are the real wardens of these jails.

      • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2019 at 2:44 pm #

        Weak! WEAK!

        You’re not gonna crush the proletariat of useless eaters with a flimsy carbon offset tax!

        No! The full fury of hysterical teenage girls must be brought down upon them. These f#kkers must pay dearly for their climate sins.

        How dare you, Snacks?

        HOW DARE YOU????


        • Gentle suasion in the form of a 20% hike on their favorite fossil fuels is how we transition.

          Hows your abode’s energy efficiency? Replacing all your windows with thick slabs of closed cell foam, filling the chimney with insulation, tearing out the natural gas and putting one of those Amish space heaters in will do the trick.