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Dmitry Orlov is back to talk about his new book, “Shrinking the Technosphere: Getting a Grip on the Technologies that Limit Our Self-sufficiency and Freedom.” It can be ordered at his website: cluborlov.com. Dmitry is the author previously of “Reinventing Collapse,” “Communities That Abide.” “The Five Stages of Collapse,” and several books of essays. The video trailer for his new book can be viewed by clicking THIS. Dmitry is a leading voice in the effort to think clearly about the predicament of our time.

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7 Responses to “KunstlerCast 282 — Shrinking the Technosphere with Dmitry Orlov”

  1. drew November 1, 2016 at 6:28 am #

    I thoroughly enjoyed this interview … thank you Jim and thank you Dmitry. Lots of food for thought here!

    But Dmitry, isn’t the “technosphere” the same thing as the “Market” that Paul Stiles describes in his book “Is the American Dream Killing You?”

  2. Being There November 6, 2016 at 9:59 am #

    One of your best interviews I’ve heard. I’ve been sharing it and playing it for as many people as I can.

    Your one before this is also excellent.

    Thank you. This is the best description of why we are working at odds with life itself.

  3. Walter B November 19, 2016 at 6:41 pm #

    Wow James, an exceptional interview, thank you, well done. Many of us have been aware of the give a little, take a lot nature of our glorious technologies for many decades now. When I first started out we designed equipment and then systems on paper with pencils, triangles and T-Squares. ” Someday you will do all this and much faster on computers” they told us and not to be considered cavemen, we always responded with “bring it on”. AutoCAD and the PC were introduced and we were all trained and after a few days learning the ins and outs, we were all converted. And Golly Sargent Carter don’t you know that it did not take long before we were now doing in one day what we used to do in one week. Of course we did it all for the same price and the workloads only multiplied times 5 so in the end, who was better off? Certainly not us.

    You asked Dimitri how he thought the Common American Idiot was hoodwinked into begging to be screwed by the “healthcare” system. There is a simply answer – FEAR! I actually heard a radio commercial recently where it was asked “how much would you pay for even one more minute of life”, to which the answer was given as ANYTHING. One of the byproducts of the American Consumer mindset is the absolute and total fear of death and the end of the Big Consummation Parties that are their lives. These poor fools would sell their children’s souls for just a few more seconds of consummation, for they have sold out. They may profess some form of Faith, but in reality they have none. The medical scammers know this full well, they promote it, and they profit from it at every opportunity. It is truly pathetic.

    Keep up the great work James, thank you once again!

  4. sethinthebox November 22, 2016 at 5:51 pm #

    I love this discussion and Dmitry’s thoughts on the Technosphere. His ideas mirror Alexandro Jodorowski’s vision from 4 years ago.

    Regardless, I must take issue with the notion that military grade surplus gear has any meaning in this context. As a DOD and Air Force installation technician I worked intimately with the communications systems of the military. Granted, this was over a decade ago, but in most cases, the military was using consumer grade equipment whenever possible. You may be able to buy some surplus short-wave radios, maybe a rf-hardened computer case (maybe?) but the military as well as many of the branches of US government are no farther ahead than the rest of us, and are often farther behind.

    On the other hand, planned obsolescence is is an interesting discussion in regards to digital equipment because we are closing rapidly on the point of diminishing returns regarding the miniaturization and efficiency; there is less and less difference between newer computer technology and older technology. Sadly, this doesn’t hold for media.

    Thanks for a great discussion. I would challenge Mr. K to get a few more adversarial voices however. It sometimes seems like we hear the same thoughts without any challenge.

  5. Very relevant just published article here:


    “…the technosphere is a system, with its own dynamics and energy flows – and humans have to help keep it going to survive.”

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