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Then we’ll see what happens when financial institutions can’t trust each other. Trade stops. Economies crumble. Pretenses evaporate. If it gets bad enough, the shelves of the supermarkets go bare in three days and you’re living in a permanent hurricane disaster without the wind and rain. Believe me, that will be bad enough. Hillary, if elected, will not get to play FDR-2. Rather, she’ll be stuck in the role of Hoover, the Return, presiding over a freight elevator of an economy with a broken cable. Expect problems with the US dollar. Expect “emergency” actions. Expect the unintended consequences of those actions.

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747 Responses to “Wounded Elephant”

  1. Cold N. Holefield October 10, 2016 at 9:57 am #

    Defending The Indefensible is the story of our times and more specifically the story of this 2016 Presidential Election Cycle. This is what it means to be Presidential in America now and forever more as long as America exists in its current unsteady state. A Nation of Laws is not necessarily a Nation of Principles and/or Values. A Nation of Laws increasingly detached from Principles/Values, is a Tyranny of Jackasses exploited by Sadists.

    Defending The Indefensible

    • James Howard Kunstler October 10, 2016 at 10:14 am #

      Nice !

      • Cold N. Holefield October 10, 2016 at 10:17 am #

        Thanks, Jim, and your post is nice as well. I look forward to your take every week. All along the WatchTower…….

        • Q. Shtik October 10, 2016 at 11:49 am #

          Congrats Cold. I’ve been reading the CFN Blog for more than 8 years and this is the first time I have seen Jim say something complimentary about a poster’s comment.

          • jim e October 13, 2016 at 11:03 pm #


      • Peter Harris October 11, 2016 at 7:42 am #

        The “American public” only have themselves to blame.
        As another poster put it earlier, people get the leaders they deserve, and because the American people are feckless and gormless, and/or, violent and vindictive, then it’s no surprise the American people face a choice between a psychopathic businessmen, and a corrupt member of the American haute bourgeoisie.
        As an outsider, looking into that great big fishbowl, that is the United States, I can only laugh at the handwringing, going on in political forums such as this.

        • Cold N. Holefield October 11, 2016 at 8:05 am #

          There is no such thing as “The American People.” However, as a self-described “outsider” looking in, I can understand your simplistic thinking & scapegoating.

          All the Freshly-Minted Immigrants who are now full-fledged American Citizens since the Hart–Celler Act of 1965 cannot be lumped in or conflated with the progeny of European Immigrants who arrived in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. There are varying degrees of assimilation, and what they’re assimilating to is also dynamic and ever-changing. The Social Engineers who run America and seek to rule the world and pretty much do, pit all these factions against each other and entrain everyone, or almost everyone, to act contrary to and in defiance of their own best interests.

          So yes, there is enough blame to go around, but it’s more complex than saying “The American People” have chosen and they’ll get what they deserve. Let’s have a discussion about choice and what exactly you mean when you say “The American People” first before we ascribe blame to The Little People once again.

          • Peter Harris October 11, 2016 at 9:31 am #

            Ok then, i will be blunt.
            Poor (Middle class) white trash. . . Is that better for you??

          • Cold N. Holefield October 11, 2016 at 9:52 am #

            Thanks for clarifying, Pete. What’s even more hilarious is that the “Leader” “The Poor White Trash” get because they deserve it, may very well drop a nuke on your head, so, I guess, you’ll also get what you deserve. Isn’t it great when everyone gets what they deserve? What’s not to like?

          • Peter Harris October 11, 2016 at 10:02 am #

            “What’s not to like?”

            Your nonsensical flim-flam.

          • Peter Harris October 11, 2016 at 10:25 am #

            And in keeping with the Clint Eastwood theme of this site. . .


          • JimInFlorida October 11, 2016 at 4:13 pm #

            There most certainly *IS* an “American People.” They are those who were here before 1965 AND may include those White immigrants who fit the profile of pre-1965 America i.e. primarily WHITE. Those immigrants are best adapted to become Americans. Any who do not, or cannot adapt, have NO historical right to be here.

            True, 3rd Worlders, Muslims, Arabs, etc. CAN gain an ersatz “citizenship” by way of legal or political machination. That does NOT make them Americans.

            And true, the social engineering agenda of the JEWS has fulfilled its goal of polluting the demographic profile of America. But, History will always provide us with a clear bright line that demarcates the last year when there was once an “American People.”

          • Elrond Hubbard October 12, 2016 at 10:53 am #

            Keep it up, JimInFlorida. Spelling America with a ‘k’ and capitalizing the JEEEEEWS every time is really getting somewhere. I think you may have them on the ropes.

        • Q. Shtik October 11, 2016 at 1:13 pm #

          …and because the American people are feckless and [gormless] – Peter H.


          No one likes having their homeland and culture disparaged, especially by an “outsider,” however, thank you for using a word I had never heard before. I looked it up and will no doubt find occasion to use it myself at some time in the future.

        • lsjogren October 13, 2016 at 10:36 am #

          As an outsider, what country do you live in?

          Most of the west is run by blithering idiots.

          Australia and a couple of eastern european countries are the only ones that have a shred of sense.

          Our neighbors to the north elected an idiot so blithering that he almost makes Clinton and Trump appear halfway sane.

    • michael October 10, 2016 at 11:33 am #

      But is it a nation of laws still?

      • ozone October 10, 2016 at 12:19 pm #

        You write: “But is it a nation of laws still?”

        Certainly, it is. What needs studying is: who do the laws benefit and who do they punish? From that (by extension) comes an understanding of status/stratification, entrenchment, and *the limits of trust*.

        • Elrond Hubbard October 11, 2016 at 12:43 pm #

          The Divide by Matt Taibbi is an excellent starting point. For example, why does the U.S. have by far the world’s largest prison population, yet every banker got away scott-free in the GFC?

          An important part of the answer is that slavery was never abolished in the U.S., merely curbed by the 13th amendment:

          “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.” (Emphasis added.)

          In other words, slavery is completely constitutional as long as you clear the simple hurdle of securing a criminal conviction of the slave. It’s as simple as slipping a baggie of marijuana in their pocket or encouraging a drug-sniffing dog to “find” something in their car. Thousands of police agencies already rely on confiscations and civil forfeiture to fund themselves, and the benefits extend well up the chain.

          • eastsun October 11, 2016 at 2:41 pm #

            Thanks Elrond

      • routersurfer October 11, 2016 at 5:02 pm #

        Yes. But not Just Laws.

    • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 11:49 am #

      Defending the indefensible if the 1rst commandment of politicians, flowed closely by:
      2)Promise them the moon and deliver nothing
      3) Take all the credit for anything that happens, especially if your opponent is responsible
      4) Slough off all the blame to your opponent
      5) Claim to have a secret plan
      6) Impugn your opponent’s patriotism
      7) Insult his supporters
      8) Cry bloody murder if your opponent happens to fart
      9) Honor thy mentor and benefactor
      10) Thou shalt kill your opponent

    • PeteAtomic October 10, 2016 at 2:20 pm #

      the ranks of soldiers marching under a warped red banner of Trump is really clever & pretty damn disturbing.

    • newworld October 11, 2016 at 12:03 pm #

      Too wordy Cold, dipstickery does not require a 1000 words to rebut.

    • routersurfer October 11, 2016 at 5:04 pm #

      Very good post. Thanks.

  2. KarlDehrmann October 10, 2016 at 10:01 am #

    They say you get the leaders you deserve. In a land of twerking, gender confusion, and disintegrated families, I’d say that is about right.

    • K-Dog October 10, 2016 at 10:29 am #

      Which would be better at twerking. Hillary or the Donald? If enough people can try to imagine either one of them squirming with carnal lust then perhaps so many people will not vote that the election will be considered a farce.

      Which it already is.

      • routersurfer October 11, 2016 at 6:27 pm #

        The images you planted in my mind will take years of therapy or a damn good exorcism.

    • patrickd October 10, 2016 at 10:34 am #

      European trash came to the US in the 1600’s and over 2-3 hundred years committed genocide against the people who lived here – Americans – and then had the gall to call themselves Americans. This agenda of killing and stealing continues to this day, except that now we European trash are killing whole countries and stealing what they got. Yeah, we deserve the Hildabeast and the Russian/Chinese nukes, or whatever else she manages to bring our way. I say “we” because we’re not marching in the streets to protest this murder and thievery.
      About the elections – why would anybody want to pretend to elect the next Terrorist-in-Chief??? The elites want Killery Hitler Clinton, and that’s who the voting machines will say won the election. Wake the f**k up!
      As a veteran, I’m sad that the US military now serves the terrorist interests of the American elites.

      • K-Dog October 10, 2016 at 10:54 am #

        I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.” – Smedley Butler

        • routersurfer October 13, 2016 at 5:19 pm #

          My grandfather marched with Gen. Butler. Old SOB never really understood it as completely as Smedley did. The Deep State is about money. It will go away with the value of money. We are on our own. Hope the train stops for a few decades in the 1800’s before it crashes back to 900 B.C.E.

      • zekesdad October 10, 2016 at 11:11 am #

        What exactly are we stealing and from whom? It’s actually just the opposite. We’re squandering what little wealth we have trying to bring “democracy” to the shit holes of the world whose people know only one thing. Might makes right/

        • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 11:17 am #

          Oh Please. Trying to bring democracy??? Are you freakin kiddin me!!! We have supported every conceivable dictator from Stalin, to the Shah of Iran to Somoza in Nicaragua to Pinochet in Chile to Papa Doc in Haiti. Crawl back under your rock and read a spell.

          • lsjogren October 10, 2016 at 4:32 pm #

            That’s what the Iraq war was all about. A war triggered by a president having been convinced by a lunatic cult (neocons) that western democracy can be forced on a nation to which it is totally alien.

            (Unfortunately, it is increasingly becoming totally alien to the west as well.)

          • routersurfer October 18, 2016 at 5:08 pm #

            Nailed it. War is about resources and trade, not democracy. Thank you seawolf.

        • chuckyzfr1 October 10, 2016 at 4:03 pm #

          Bringing democracy LOL….funny how we never try to bring democracy to places that don’t have resources we’re trying to liberate. Don’t worry though, President Hillary will be bringing regime change and “democracy” to lots of new places real soon!

      • OverTheCliff October 10, 2016 at 1:13 pm #

        patrickd, Great comments and telling of the truth! Most euro-trash are blind to the truth and don’t want to know it. Stole it from the People with true freedom and then screamed (and still scream) about their “liberty” and “freedom”.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2016 at 1:49 pm #

          Ok Chief Lemming, you throw yourself off the cliff first – we’ll follow!

          • OverTheCliff October 10, 2016 at 3:00 pm #

            Ok I’m over and waiting for you

          • OverTheCliff October 11, 2016 at 5:12 pm #

            You’re a no show, no surprise, another “Merican” liar. btw nice bit of racism with your “chief” title for me.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 11, 2016 at 7:52 pm #

            If you jumped, why are you still alive and talking? The Minorities you worship hate you – and no amount of sacrificing other Whites will satisfy them. You must either jump or be put on the Table/Pyre/Altar.

          • OverTheCliff October 12, 2016 at 5:30 pm #

            Oh Janos Janos I am more resilient than you think. You are so very wrong about that hatred. You must be in a weird space to hold that belief.

        • lsjogren October 10, 2016 at 4:34 pm #

          In other words, if elements of a nation’s origins are ugly, then why bother even trying to create a prosperous, civil, and just society.

          That makes absolutely no sense to me.

      • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 1:42 pm #

        Like Ted Turner said, the suicide epidemic among soldiers who realize they are nothing more than legitimate goons is the only ray of hope for humanity. As soon as young people stop buying into the war porn, they’ll have to bring the draft back. Nobody will go, not after Vietnam. It’s like the French did during World War 2. Look at how many Frenchmen died in World War 1. The second time around, they said fuck it, we’ll sit this one out. Now everyone thinks they’re cowards. You think they care? They think we are idiots.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2016 at 1:47 pm #

          No, some fought. And the Communists killed many, many people they didn’t like after the outbreak of “peace”. Not only people who collaborated with Germans, but anyone they hated.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2016 at 1:45 pm #

        At least he’s honest: he hates America and wants to see it destroyed. And he hates the White Race and wants to see it destroyed. He throws down the gauntlet. Are we men enough to see people like Patrick for what they are and expel them?

        This is the disease of Political Correctness in its mature stage. There can be no equivocating anymore about where it leads to – it leads to people like Patrick and death camps for normal people.

      • Frankiti October 11, 2016 at 5:34 am #

        Happy indigenous peoples day

        • Elrond Hubbard October 11, 2016 at 12:47 pm #

          And happy International Day of the Girl.


          There really is a simple magic formula for making the world a better place: Educate girls and empower women, so they can make their own choices.

          • JimInFlorida October 11, 2016 at 4:25 pm #

            Every day in Family and Divorce Courts is the Day of the Girl.

            Every day in some EEOC office is the Day of the Girl.

            Every day when some crazed skank or ratchet makes wild accusations against some man for the slightest perceived affront, is the Day of the Girl.

            Every day on some soap opera is the Day of the Girl.

            Every day in some shopping mall, where a castrated man follows behind his wife, is the Day of the Girl.

            Every day, when Men go to work and get no recognition, while a woman cashes in on her Vagina Privilege, is the Day of the Girl.

            Every day in a nation in steep decline is the Day of the Girl.

            History’s Verdict is in. Is was a horrific mistake to let women vote.

          • routersurfer October 11, 2016 at 6:33 pm #

            Dear JiminFlorida, do I have this right? You hate women and Jews. They are the root of the White Mans problems? Just want to be sure I have not misunderstood.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 11, 2016 at 11:47 pm #

            Elrond the Cucked Clown.

          • JimInFlorida October 12, 2016 at 7:34 am #

            routesurfer, some things cannot be explained to women, children, and fools.

            Come back when you’ve learned something of real life. Then, such a question would be utterly absurd and you’d already know the answer.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 12, 2016 at 10:59 am #

            More validation from Janos. Hooray!

            Meanwhile, here’s JimInFlorida: “Every day, when Men go to work and get no recognition…” What do you want, a medal? Every Joe who ever toiled away in quiet desperation thought he was underappreciated. Resentment is not its own justification, it’s just resentment. Grow up.

          • JimInFlorida October 13, 2016 at 11:45 am #

            Elrond, I only purported that Men get no recognition ONLY because of your cucked obsession with Women getting recognition ON TOP OF Vagina Privilege.

      • Gerold October 11, 2016 at 12:30 pm #

        As a Canadian, I must say you’re one of the few Americans I’ve read/met that isn’t drowning in self-deluded patriotism and propaganda. That there are so few with a clear view explains why your country is sinking deeper into debauchery and corruption and, alas, dragging the rest of the world down with it. In this interconnected world, nowhere is safe anymore.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2016 at 12:30 am #

          Yes Gerod, calling your Race “trash” and wishing its destruction is the gold standard of health. Canadians have the same mentality and they are doomed.

      • mastman23 October 16, 2016 at 2:37 pm #

        Hey bud its called survival of the fittest. Its been going on since the beginning of time. The weak are conquered and disposed of and the strong prosper and move on to the next WAR. Only when the winners of wars spend to much time and treasure enjoying the spoils and becoming complacent and oblivious to their world around them do they become the next loser and the beat goes on. USA is on course to be the next loser

  3. newworld October 10, 2016 at 10:14 am #

    We are also seeing the crackup of the Post Cold War American electoral strategy of “Nice White Woman”, ironically brought about by Clinton in 92 and partly destroyed by Hillary and her obnoxious nagging establishment feminists.

    While establishment feminists and polygamist Mormons on the same scolding side of the boat, capsizing is imminent.

    America and the West have since 1992 pandered to the sensibilities to that figment of our imagination the Sainted Woman so electoral politics and our government reflect that and address everything in a small minded, petty and vindictive manner as women do when challenged.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2016 at 1:50 pm #

      Well said. Trump pillaged that whore last night – an incredible Victory for all that is wholesome and real.

      • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 2:52 pm #

        Oh Please the only thing that got pillaged was his nasal passages.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2016 at 10:27 pm #

          A fly landed on Hillary’s face during the debate – an endorsement from Beelzebub.

          • seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 9:50 am #

            Good one!

      • newworld October 11, 2016 at 1:57 pm #

        Progs have never really been called stupid in a situation where they cannot control the microphone. Think how unsettling this is to their very insecure personalities.

        The unraveling of Political Correctness is going to hurt them, too bad.

  4. K-Dog October 10, 2016 at 10:18 am #

    In answer to your question the Romans would most definitely have elected Caligula.

    At the time of his ascension to power he was known as ‘little boots’ (caliga) because he had followed his father Germanicus around in a child sized military uniform during his fathers campaigns in Germany. It was expected he would be reasonable and intelligent like his father was. Instead he brought ruin to the nation.

    So which of our two PONTUS wanabees elect a horse to our Senate? If a horse can make a donation to the Clinton foundation we already know the answer. Unless that is, the horse wants to attend Trump University.

    Both of our buffoons will try and fight our rising sea levels by slashing the seas with swords just as Caligula did when he went to war against Poseidon. Regardless who is elected the light of burning and crucified Standing Rock activists will be illuminating state dinners.

    • michael October 10, 2016 at 11:42 am #

      What we know of the roman emperors comes from members of the roman elite with time and leisure to write.
      The common people usally felt quite differently about the emperor
      but did not write histories of rome.

      Caligua seems to have had a sense of humour and that alone places him above the drab and sorry figures we must now endure.

    • Eldorado October 10, 2016 at 12:19 pm #

      No horse would be stupid enough to have fallen for Trump University. Nor to want to be in the US Senate, for that matter.

    • routersurfer October 11, 2016 at 6:37 pm #

      I agree K-Dog. No way we do not feel the lash of History on our backs this election.

  5. Neon Vincent October 10, 2016 at 10:22 am #

    “The only good to come out of this sordid election is the certainty that a lot of political debris will be swept away in the Fourth Turning underway.” As someone who has been a fan of Strauss and Howe for 25 years, I am always pleased to see you reference their work. Yes, we’re in The Fourth Turning and have been since 2008, if not 2001. The difference in start date matters. If it’s the earlier date, we might be out of it by the end of the decade. The latter date implies the Crisis Era might go on for another decade. Oh, to live in interesting times!

    “If it gets bad enough, the shelves of the supermarkets go bare in three days and you’re living in a permanent hurricane disaster without the wind and rain.” That’s quite a fitting image, given our close brush with Hurricane Matthew. At least our space program survived this storm, if not the financial one you forecast.

    “This is not entirely a nation of clowns, though it feels like that lately.” I was wondering if you’d reference all the sightings of creepy clowns lately, and you didn’t disappoint. Some of these clown sightings are real and of people using clown masks to committ crimes. It’s enough to remind me of The Joker and Harley Quinn and drive me to drink.

    • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 11:39 am #

      There is nothing here to confirm your theory that the Romans would have elected Caligula.

      • Q. Shtik October 10, 2016 at 1:09 pm #

        The subject of Caligula’s rise in the Roman Empire was raised in one of the NYT’s op-ed pieces yesterday.

        Another (really excellent) NYT op-ed yesterday was titled Shakespeare Explains the 2016 Election. As I gather, Shakespeare’s Richard III describes (from the author’s imagination of how it all probably went down) how “this loathsome, perverse monster actually attained the English throne” against all odds and common sense. And it reads in nearly identical fashion to our political cycle reality of the past year and a half.

        • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 1:19 pm #

          Please elaborate. I’d like to hear the analogy.

        • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 3:19 pm #

          Actually I read the article and it’s a stretch to Trump.

  6. cable guy October 10, 2016 at 10:29 am #

    “This is not entirely a nation of clowns.” It isn’t?

    • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 10:53 am #

      That’s a bit disparaging to clowns, don’t you think?

      • K-Dog October 10, 2016 at 10:55 am #

        But they can laugh it off!

  7. RaymondR October 10, 2016 at 10:32 am #

    It is Thanksgiving here in Canada and many Canadians are thankful that the American Circus is south of the border. Whatever happens, we will be living next to dangerously unstable neighbour.

    I expect that there are more than a few ambitious individuals sizing up the opportunities for building a popular movement for radical change by building on the forces released by Messrs Trump and Sanders. Juan Peron comes to mind as a model but it will likely be a uniquely American thing

    Pray for a peaceful transition but be prepared for trouble

    • Neon Vincent October 10, 2016 at 11:02 am #

      Since you mentioned it, Happy Canadian Thanksgiving 2016!

      • lsjogren October 10, 2016 at 4:36 pm #

        You guys have Thanksgiving right now? I I guess if the idea is to schedule Thanksgiving a bit before everyone freezes their nuts off, it makes sense for Canada to have it a little earlier.

        • Elrond Hubbard October 11, 2016 at 1:13 pm #

          Thanks for the well-wishes. Although we were not as far-sighted as our Commonwealth colleagues in Australia, who enjoy Xmas in mid-summer. 🙂

    • draupnir October 10, 2016 at 11:03 am #

      I wouldn’t be too comfortable with your Canadian satisfaction just yet. I think you’ve got resources that belong to us. We’ll probably annex Canada shortly after that ambitious individual rises to power.

      • islander800 October 10, 2016 at 4:29 pm #

        Now THAT’S the America I know.

        Do say, which of our resources do you feel “belong” to America?

        Unfortunately, a lot of Americans probably think like you. And if it came down to it, you could just march right in and take us over. No question. But you would be as welcome as the Nazis were in occupied Europe – and resistance fighters can cause a lot of damage.

        My, what a country America has morphed into.

        • Frankiti October 10, 2016 at 5:47 pm #

          “But you would be as welcome as the Nazis were in occupied Europe – and resistance fighters can cause a lot of damage.”

          Indeed. Superfluous hockey sticks and curling stones mixed with obsequious politeness and rabid Anglophilia is a devil’s cocktail that even the craziest American clown can’t swallow.

        • Elrond Hubbard October 11, 2016 at 1:21 pm #

          Actually, think Anschluss. Though I know little of German culture and less of Austrian, I tend to think of the cultural and linguistic similarities between those countries as analogous to the similarity between the U.S. and English Canada. Either that or Russia versus Ukraine. I value Canada’s independence from the pathologies of Washington D.C. as a ruling capital, and hope that independence will last forevermore.

          • Frankiti October 11, 2016 at 4:56 pm #

            Not if your leader gets his way on the North American Union.

            Pathologies of two crime and corruption riddled governments and societies headed your way.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 12, 2016 at 11:01 am #

            North American Union? This comes as news to me. Where is this coming from? Unless you’re talking about the TPP or something of the kind, which is a worldwide problem and not specific to North America.

          • JimInFlorida October 13, 2016 at 11:50 am #

            Elrond, the very fact that you are willfully ignorant about the North American Union severely downgrades the credibility of your opinion and commentary.

            Geopolitical engineering is often carried out behind the scenes, like termites behind the walls of a house. The NAU is already operational and that’s not a good thing.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 13, 2016 at 12:45 pm #

            JimInFlorida: Link, please. By all means, educate me.

    • Eldorado October 10, 2016 at 12:30 pm #

      Not only what draupnir said (that’s actually in the best case), but the radioactivity from WWIII will go everywhere and will not respect national borders. I guess on the bright side, maybe nuclear winter will slow down or stop global warming.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2016 at 1:54 pm #

      Trump is the Candidate of Peace and Hillary the Candidate of Nuclear War with Russia. He made it clear last night even though his VP, Pence, is still in the fog. Once that is understood, there is only one choice and He is by no means the lesser of two evils, but rather the first Nationalist to stand a chance in decades.

      • draupnir October 10, 2016 at 9:11 pm #

        Small chance of that if the DHS gets their grubby hands on our elections. It’s perfectly obvious whom the deep state, elites, bankers, large corporations, mainstream media and the rest of the establishment prefer, and as Stalin said, “The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.” We were doomed as soon as they brought in Diebold voting machines anyway, and I’m not entirely convinced we’ve had a real election since that time.

  8. wm5135 October 10, 2016 at 10:32 am #

    Mr. Kunstler and CFN Commentariat
    I do not believe that we must acquiesce. Please consider that the electorate might take the election as intended and snatch it away from the fraud it has become. We can choose to announce that we will not be swayed from ending the status quo and are willing to follow in the steps of our forebearers and accept the discipline of self government. Either we have the courage to recognize and accept the risks of free men governing themselves or we do not.

    Can I find consensus?

    • K-Dog October 10, 2016 at 10:42 am #

      A consensus to do what? Escape from a sinking ship without any lifeboats?

      The status quo is alive and well and about to roll over any who get in its way. Choose to announce as you wish, it will amount to nothing and you will be ignored. The fraud will go on. To acquiesce is not a choice, or if it is, it is the only choice you have. Madness will have its day and you will not get in its way.

      • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 11:14 am #

        The status quo is a formidable animal.

      • elysianfield October 10, 2016 at 11:36 am #

        ” Choose to announce as you wish, it will amount to nothing and you will be ignored”

        Ignored? Would that be the case. Lists are being made, and names being taken…ignored indeed!

        • K-Dog October 12, 2016 at 2:04 am #

          Ah, yeah that’s a very good point. I certainly know I am on lists. I am surly on a few lists I should not be on at all so I deduce I have a life membership in the lists. Being as this is how it is, I ceased worrying about them and became much calmer when I did.

          Ignore the lists for you can do nothing about them and be smart about what you do; understanding lists are a fact of life.

          Remember too that list makers will ask you to ‘announce’ so they can put you on a list when you respond.

          Anyone with a genuine desire to indulge in propaganda of the deed should not be posting here or anywhere else on the net.

      • messianicdruid October 10, 2016 at 12:13 pm #

        He, as I, only wish to get Out of its way.

    • sprawlcapital October 10, 2016 at 10:44 am #

      wm–We can choose to announce that we will not be swayed from ending the status quo . . .
      Can you give more details as to how we go about ending the status quo? No one wants to see that more than me, but how?

      • K-Dog October 10, 2016 at 10:48 am #

        Exactly right. This is the wrong place to claim you have an answer and not pony up with a bit of your truth.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2016 at 1:56 pm #

      That’s what Trump is doing. All the corrupt powers that be hate him with a passion. He is not perfect and has a past, but He is obviously an instrument of destiny.

      • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 2:53 pm #

        Oh he’s an instrument, a complete tool in fact.

        • Elrond Hubbard October 11, 2016 at 12:51 pm #

          LOL! seawolf77, you get a gold star.

    • Frankiti October 10, 2016 at 4:40 pm #


      Bro, you’re in the wrong place. Trying to elicit revolutionaries from a book club? This here is a coterie of whining geezers. Old white men that, as age and comportment demands, fall into the stereotypical disengagement by means of curmudgeonry. Complaining as arousal.

      You see, every Monday the Grand Poobah calls to order with an adjective laden treatise posted in the main square. It often contains the word “miasma” (google miasma with CFN) and a few reasons why the sky should of fell, but hasn’t, but, gosh darn it-will.

      Anyway, you’re looking for courage amongst the capitulated AKA Hillary voters.

      • dannyboy October 10, 2016 at 5:16 pm #

        that’s who i’m talking to?

        no wonder

  9. sprawlcapital October 10, 2016 at 10:36 am #

    I still am not comfortable with voting for Hillary just so she and all the corrupt institutions she serves can be the object of blame for the collapse. Even though she, and they, richly deserve that fate.

    Jill Stein can’t be all that bad. (I read what you said about her last week JHK. I’m not convinced that she’s all about PC foolishness.)

    • K-Dog October 10, 2016 at 10:45 am #

      If I vote it will be for her. She is too smart to be all about PC foolishness.

      Vote for Jill and you can enjoy the future antics of carrot top guilt free!

      • Yuri Sowryteski October 10, 2016 at 3:46 pm #


        I will vote for and contribute to Jill Stein, and Ajamu Baraka, and the green party. Even the NewYorker confirms (in passing details) that more dems in Florida voted for Bush than for Nader, and Gore’s pick of Joe Leiberman as VP was one of many factors in the election, which turned into a selection, contrary to the dems lies. I have always been proud of that vote for Nader and Laduke. Which is why I have few dem friends.

        But it will not be the vote for Stein~Baraka which will allow me to be guilt-free come November. It’s the life I live and have lived, for 30 years, contributing little to nil to the establishment’s benefit. Poetry and Beauty, Integrity and Humility, are invisible to the culture and to the establishment. Wisdom? Ha. Most people, as far as I can tell, have a sever allergic reaction to wisdom. We shall see whether or not evolution selects for or against it.

    • Frankiti October 10, 2016 at 2:57 pm #

      Here’s the thing… if you vote for HC, you vote for a continuation of the machinations that undermine the free market and the source of most whining from this site. It’s not going to fall while she is in office. She is complicit, and a part of the junta of elites that keep the financial scheme alive. And everyone knows this. Knowing this they are much too scared to vote for the grenade… ’cause in the end, they want their government hand-outs, a 401K with some money in it, illegal labor building their homes, cleaning their hotels and serving their fast food. In a war of comfort Vs courage they choose a future of complaining on the internet then remaking a world by their hand.

      “Discretion is the polite word for hypocrisy” -unknown

  10. wardoc October 10, 2016 at 10:51 am #

    “If voting mattered they would not allow us to do it.” !!!

    ….Mark Twain

    Its not who gets the votes, its who COUNTs the votes.

    …..Joseph Stalin

    enough said!!!!!

  11. Phutatorius October 10, 2016 at 10:58 am #

    Nice Rolling Stones allusion. “Sympathy for the Devil”?

    • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 11:07 am #

      I think that’s Gimme Shelter.

      • Phutatorius October 11, 2016 at 5:02 pm #

        You’re right. Thanks for the correction.

  12. wm5135 October 10, 2016 at 10:59 am #

    At this moment the current power structure is aligned with a view of the world that will destroy humanity. This same structure is aligned with one of the candidates. Recent history indicates that this power structure is myopic. There is every reason to believe that the power will use every resource to destroy the villain of the hour.
    At this point in my nation’s history the infrastructure of government and society is still intact. Let us disregard the condition for a moment, the edifice is standing. Much better to make a stand now than after a further collapse.
    Each registered voter can announce that for them the election is over, there will not be a Clinton presidency.
    Viewing the course of human history allow me to paraphrase one of the regulars here:
    Billions will die, Bankers, CEOs and Directors of the Board will be among them.

    • monkey_flower October 10, 2016 at 5:37 pm #

      Words are so clumsy. But I see the essence of what you say. What we create we can also destroy. Is there a difference between sophistry and philosophy ? Beats me. But it saved my life once so I am keen on the subject.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2016 at 7:22 pm #

        One is words, one is wisdom. One is ideas without referents, one is ideas with them, ideas that can have cash value (William James) even in this fallen world.

  13. seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 11:05 am #

    I have to say Jim your Queeg-like crack up is spot on. That press conference before the debate… I could see him measuring out the cups of strawberry tinged sexual infidelities and twirling those little steel balls under the table. Carville said it best. Trump is a fat, tired, old white guy who’s lashing out now that he’s been found out to be a fraud, a liar, a cad, and a creep. Just like Queeg when he realized he was a coward. Clinton looked as composed as ever, gave clear, articulate answers, and in general looked presidential. She never took the bait when he called her a liar, when he told her she should be ashamed of herself, when he said she had hatred in her heart. Rolled off like water on a duck’s back. Trump is becoming a parody of himself in real time, and it ain’t pretty. It is downright ugly.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2016 at 1:58 pm #

      And Carville supports Hillary. Nuff said. Trump crushed her with the Hammer of Truth and you don’t like it. What does that say about you?

      • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 2:49 pm #

        Doesn’t say anything about me.

      • newworld October 11, 2016 at 12:10 pm #

        You think the third debate will be as aggressive?

        I myself would like to see Donald stand tall like an Alpha male and make his run about the little people from Deplorables like me to inner city blacks and other forgotten men and women.

        I’m frankly tired of the feminist passive aggressive pettiness and meanness, frankly the white progs here are just an extension of Hillary’s awfulness.

        • seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 1:29 pm #

          Isn’t that what he’s been doing?

  14. 99 cent nation October 10, 2016 at 11:15 am #

    Until there is a box you can check in the voting booth that say none of the above you will not see me voting.

    • davidreese2 October 10, 2016 at 11:49 am #

      I believe there is nothing to stop you from doing a write-in for “None of the Above.”

      For myself, I’ll be voting for a third party, to say: “Neither major party deserves my vote.”

  15. Frankiti October 10, 2016 at 11:17 am #

    Let’s look at the debate without the shrill hyperbole.

    Anderson Shtupper wasted no time to bring up the p*ssy comment. When he received an apology, he did not relent, he used it as an opportunity to recover any journalistic credentials he never really had. So intent on throwing out his “tough” questions he ignored, and cut-off, the answers.

    Here’s the thing, Trump was not a politician at the time. he was a jet-setting billionaire bon vivant running a beauty pageant. He was not a public official. If it was Mick Jagger, or Snoop Dog it would not matter. It would be laughed at.

    The total hypocrisy is the fact that in the audience was a former president, and potential first-philanderer, who penetrated an intern with a Cohiba and then placed it into his mouth before receiving oral sex in a government office. He had sex (oral) with an intern in a government office, but they dare bring up Trump carrying on about grabbing a girl’s “p*ssy”? Really.

    Men do at times talk this way. If people, and especially women, don’t think they do, then they are only lying to themselves.

    We then have Clinton blaming the Russians again. We then have her defend the totally ironic position of American strategy to defeat Assad, allow the destruction of Syria, the spread of ISIS, rather than defeating ISIS first. The insane US policy of WANTING Assad, first and foremost, to fall is the cause of the dire situation in “what is Aleppo?” Here’s the answer: Aleppo is when you are not content with initiating and fomenting regime change in a part of the world despite the deaths and suffering of millions.

    The media last night set the tone so they could lament it in a week’s worth of press afterward. “Scandalous” by their very making. It took 2 unhinged moderators to deliver it. Now, more hypocrisy and feigned indignation… to sell, sell, sell the spectacle. Wake up dummies.

    • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 11:26 am #

      You have the most hyperbolic candidate in American political history, and you want to remove the shrill hyperbole from the discussion. That’s like a post World War 2 German saying let’s remove the shrill hyperbole about this Holocaust business and burning people alive because this sort of exaggeration does no one any good. You want it both ways. You revel in his larger than life persona and his plain talk, but when it meanders into the gutter you cry FOUL! FOUL! FOUL! like a whiny little bitch.

      • Frankiti October 10, 2016 at 11:29 am #

        Godwin’s Law in no time.

        • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 11:35 am #

          It’s not a comparison genius, it’s an analogy.

          • Frankiti October 10, 2016 at 12:06 pm #

            ????!!! LOL… You’re more of a window licker than I originally suspected.

          • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 12:09 pm #

            And as circle jerks go, you’re a master debater.

    • dannyboy October 10, 2016 at 11:54 am #

      “Men do at times talk this way.”

      i love it when you guys explain yourselves. these insights help me understand how your wrongness can continue.

      • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 12:25 pm #

        No old aged children talk this way. And Steven Tyler.

  16. Walter B October 10, 2016 at 11:23 am #

    It has been almost two years now that I have been bombarding those around me with the reality that Hillary Rodan Clinton would be our next president, or more properly, our First Queen. I do believe that everyone here has grown so tired of hearing it that by the time it become reality they will all have gone into hiding to avoid the “I Told You So’s” that are sure to come their way. But I am not like that, and I will be suffering too so how can I gloat. After the second World War when American Marketeers realized that Rosie the Riveter did not need to return to the kitchen but should be elevated to rule every household in the land, a “coincidental” change occurred shortly thereafter. Need became want, bigger became better, price became no object, and debt was made far better than savings. Endless and constant entertainment became the rule of the day and honesty and truth were quickly replaced by happy lies lest the grinning idiots of the land wake up and see the future.

    It seems only fitting to me that a pair of thieving, murdering sellout scumbags should be placed at the helm of the Ameritanic as she heads into the ice fields of tomorrow. Only four years to go will eventually be replaced with only four MORE years left to go and then the Country of Clowns will “elect” something even far worse and far fouler, if that is even possible. If I were to gaze into the Dirty Ball of America’s “future” to glean an idea of what may follow, I would think that by the time Her Highness has had Her way with us all, it might very well be time for Sharia Law to be ushered in on a national basis. Perhaps HRC can increase the numbers of “refugees” to ensure this eventuality, it would only be fair, don’t you think?

  17. wm5135 October 10, 2016 at 11:35 am #

    Try this out for size.
    Stein or Trump is playing Russian Roulette with a 6 shot revolver having a cartridge in one chamber.
    Clinton is playing the same game with a cartidge in 5 chambers.

    Give er a spin and cast your vote.
    Announce that November 8 is The Declaration of Independence 2016 and work with your community to deny the Clinton presidency.

    Or we can continue to be amazed that human males reside outside the bounds of polite society and that an American business man is corrupt.

    • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 11:42 am #

      Maybe she has some sadistic gooks to shoot.

  18. barbisbest October 10, 2016 at 11:49 am #

    Never said she’d be the winner.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2016 at 2:11 pm #

      He crushed her Barb – and she deserved it along with Bill. And instead of singing, these mooks are grieving and/or denying that He crushed her.

      • Frankiti October 10, 2016 at 2:44 pm #

        She’s going to need at least 3 more rounds of botox after straining to keep that passive-aggressive (“I’m so above this… see! See!”) perma-smile.

      • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 2:59 pm #

        The cooler she stays, the more desperate he gets. It’s hilarious to watch. He thinks if he gets a laugh it translates to votes. He’s a child, a big orange haired child, with not so much as a popsicle’s chance in hell of winning. Give it up guys, the whiny little bitch is gonna get beat by the vagina equipped carbon based life form. the happy go lucky Trump Is already gone, replaced by the dour faced lout.

        • Elrond Hubbard October 11, 2016 at 1:00 pm #

          As of right now, the latest PRRI/Atlantic poll gives Clinton a 12-point edge over Trump nationally, 49% versus 37%:


          The poll ran from Oct 5-9, overlapping with the whole Access Hollywood open mic kerfuffle. It will be interesting to see what subsequent polls indicate after everyone surveyed has digested the results.

          By way of comparison, Reagan’s margin over Mondale in the 1984 election was 18%, and Reagan famously took every state except Mondale’s native Minnesota. If the election were held today, Clinton’s 12% margin doesn’t look like a 49-state blowout, but it still doesn’t look good for Trump unless something major happens.

          • seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 1:28 pm #

            Trump and Hillary have the same home state.

        • Frankiti October 11, 2016 at 4:51 pm #

          If it comes from Seadolt’s mouth… it’s wrong.

          Hillary is a native Illinoisan.
          Illinois is her home state despite any carpetbagging antics.
          Trump is the New Yorker.

          Brown-eyed Girl was originally Brown-Skinned girl. Changed for political reasons.

          • seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 6:41 pm #

            You forgot Arkansas genius.

          • Frankiti October 11, 2016 at 8:11 pm #

            Seadolt, AKA window-licker, she never held office in Arkansas, thus, not a political carpetbagger.

            I would not expect you to know this.

          • seawolf77 October 12, 2016 at 9:49 am #

            You get your info from Wikepedia. Nuf said. Genius.

  19. FincaInTheMountains October 10, 2016 at 11:54 am #

    The funny thing is that the tip of the Republican Party felt that this entire tape affair is a suitable occasion for the resumption of attempts to replace Trump as the Republican Party nominee. Of course, it is difficult to defend before sexual minorities the private conversation of a 60-year-old man, from which it appears that he’s really young at heart, and reacts to the opposite sex with passion and candor of a 16-year-old.

    Maybe that’s why the potential vice president of the United States Pence, who just skillfully crushed in the debates Hillary’s Vice, refused to defend Trump in this case. For men with a good ethical and sexual code such defense would be nonsense – well, the men talked about girls – what’s the big deal!? But he announced it with minimum aggression and maximum diplomacy.

    But the reaction of “rainbow orientated” Condoleezza Rice goes beyond the purely feminine indignation with Trump words and it is clearly visible disappointment in failing to change and thus to disrupt the Sarkozy-Medvedev agreement to stop South Ossetian slaughter as well as suppressed hatred of Trump, who has imploded political correctness in the US and hatred of Putin and Russia. Accordingly, all the other mad passionate indignation with Trump words on closer inspection turn out to be a cover for hatred of Russia and its president, sympathy to which Donald Trump has repeatedly expressed.

    • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 12:19 pm #

      Young at heart! You guys can slice a turd and find caramel nougat inside. 99% of the population would say dirty old man. You are officially a 1% er.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2016 at 2:13 pm #

        Amazing. America hates Christianity yet still clings to Puritanism, even in an utterly vile, anti-life Feminist form.

        • J. Dean October 11, 2016 at 10:36 am #

          Hey, the Puritans get a bad rap! Even they sang, danced and drank ale. But you are right to allude that today’s liberals are no longer. They’ve become the eaters of children, warmongers and haters of real “diversity” (i.e. keeping distinctions among cultures and peoples).

          One word: Nihilism

  20. wm5135 October 10, 2016 at 11:57 am #

    Ladies and gentlemen, I am not suggesting this election should be about a candidate but should be a “shot heard round the world.”
    I would hate to admit that the good citizens of Britain have more intestinal fortitude than my fellow citizens. (see Brexit)

    • Frankiti October 10, 2016 at 12:48 pm #

      This site is full of whiners and fantasy role players. Geezers complaining for the sake of complaining. Stories and tales and yarns… buy the book! They enjoy the fantasy only, but when their Medicaid and pensioner’s addiction to social security is on the line, well, they’d much rather have 4 more years to complain than actually live through the aftershocks of a system brought to heel.

      • dannyboy October 10, 2016 at 1:53 pm #

        Wait a second!

        …i thought this is where all the important decisions are made.

  21. erik October 10, 2016 at 12:03 pm #

    Nations are not overly given to real introspection and ours is particularly, at least partially due to our nutty form of “representative democracy”.
    By this I mean the peculiar institution of the executive branch with its fixed term, winner take all, quadrennial reset and the hopelessly skewed nature of the senate (2 for Wyoming, 2 for California).

    But, going forward, the “political realities” will go unrecognized. The Hillary regency will be a shit storm and the next election even worse.
    The country is writhing in the throes of the disconnect from what it has been and what it will be; that’s going to be the 800 pound Gorilla. Whether it ends up with us going to destruction through the “Sampson Option” or whether our internal contradictions cause the collapse of the republic and the fragmentation of its territory awaits the judgement of history and we’re all just Bozos on this bus.

    We want the world as it was for 3 generations. Everything we are doing is dedicated to achieving that goal. In the end, it can’t happen and that is the struggle of our times.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2016 at 2:17 pm #

      And the other faction wants to change America as much as possible via mass alien immigration – and that includes most of the Republicans as well. Good people must resist the Invasion and bring the Traitors who enable it to Justice.

      America wont stay the same. Intelligent people realize that. But to give it away, to elect another People, is something else again.

      • Walter B October 10, 2016 at 11:28 pm #

        Of course change is needed in America, if you are one of the wealthy elites who rule. Why risk losing the control that you exert over the masses by allowing them to become educated, critical thinkers and compete not only with you, but with your future spawn? Johnny and Janie Whitefolk have been over-“educated” to assume high paying, non existent professions paving the way for primitive “immigrants” to be brought in to undermine and eventually destroy the middle class threat to the established wealthy. Getting ahead is one thing, but staying there requires the elimination of your competition. Some call it social engineering, but to those who work the strings it is simply good business, and it is working. Can you say goodbye?

  22. FincaInTheMountains October 10, 2016 at 12:17 pm #

    The situation with 34 tons of plutonium has been developing for a long time and it has developed in the United States, when during the construction of the MOX plant in South Carolina they managed to “appropriate” a nice chunk of change in the amount of $7 billion (!!), and then rudely demanded that the US Congress should shell out another $18 billion for the same plant and the sacred cause of the world peace.

    However, Congressmen did not manage to appreciate a good contractor’s humor and even quite the contrary. Although, everything was according to the law and there was no corruption, not unlike everything that is being built in Russia.

    The Putin stooges argued that the same exact MOX plant was built in Russia in time and is already working, for a measly price of $250 million. That would be a 1% of the final price in US, if we assume that the plant will be finished and start working in the Bastion of Democracy and Human Rights.

    Of course, it would be possible to build in Russia two MOX plants – One for Russia and another for US for a $400 million for two. Russia would really save $50 million on its side of the deal, and the US would really save at least 25 billion on their part of the deal.


  23. wm5135 October 10, 2016 at 12:28 pm #

    “When you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow”.

    OMG can you believe (fill in the blank) said that?
    Just disgusting such crude behavior.

    Is this the nougat that is referred to above?

    • Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2016 at 2:22 pm #

      Meanwhile back in Realville, Fifty Shades of Grey was one of most widely read books by women in decades.

      Woman are hypocrites by nature. Nature doesn’t let them see themselves clearly. To allow their shrill, brittle natures determine America’s future is simply criminal.

      • Frankiti October 10, 2016 at 2:40 pm #

        The Porn industry is a more than $10 billion business.

        A lot of clueless housewives, prudes, and puritans need to start checking their browser caches.

        Their disgust need not be feigned.

        • JimInFlorida October 10, 2016 at 5:54 pm #

          A golden age for the single sovereign straight man with options!

          • Frankiti October 11, 2016 at 9:54 am #

            Women with closets full of Fabio covered paperbacks are at wit’s end.

        • J. Dean October 11, 2016 at 10:52 am #

          I’d agree. Likely the vast majority of Trump-supporting men who dismissed his “locker room” comment were shaking their heads up-down not left-right.

          Still though, a MSM red herring

        • seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 1:38 pm #

          The porn industry is like anal sex, no one knows how it got a bad name. I like Van Morrison mocking anal sex with “Brown Eyed Girl,” and none of you prudes getting the joke. He’s still laughing all the way to the bank.

      • newworld October 11, 2016 at 12:17 pm #

        They spent years sniggering over the term “teabagging.”

        These old white women who direct progressive politics are some of the worst people on Earth and Paul Ryan he stinks too

  24. Cold N. Holefield October 10, 2016 at 12:46 pm #

    On that note, what famous person said, “speak softly (cuz you never know where you’ll find a Hot Mic) and carry a Big Dick?”

  25. dweebus October 10, 2016 at 1:13 pm #

    I have said voting in this election is like cleaning up after the dog. You can pick up a dry, crumbly dog turd or a wet steaming pile, but whichever of the major party candidates you choose, you’re still picking up dog shit.

    I suspect most voting Americans are trying to decide which piece of shit is the least likely to stick to the pooper scooper or stink up the house. On one hand, we have a clueless boor and an arrogant bully. on the other, an opportunistic liar and a two-faced fraud. Whether it is “grabbing pussies” or “having public and private positions” both are unfit to serve. Luckily, there is an out. I will vote for Stein, my state is deep, deep blue. My daughter is voting for Johnson. Her state is deep, deep red.

    I just pity the fuckers who live in the battleground states. They are the ones picking up dog shit.

    As to the impending collapse, it may be farther off than people think. TPTB have every incentive to keep juggling those chickens and chainsaws as long as possible. Of course that means the financial collapse will be harder and deeper when it comes.

    • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 1:37 pm #

      It’s a choice between gonorrhea and syphilis. One will give you painful urination and a pus like discharge. The other will fuck you up for life. Your call.

      • dweebus October 10, 2016 at 1:58 pm #

        Now that’s funny.

  26. thwack October 10, 2016 at 2:01 pm #

    Not that its matters, but; Hillary Clinton is exactly the type of old white woman black people secretly can’t stand; calculating, fake, and willing to throw anyone and anything under the bus at a moments notice if it will help her ruthless ambition and greed.

    Think about it?

    Hillary Clinton makes Donald Trump a reasonable presidential alternative?

    Think about how few people actually have the ability to pull something like that off?

    Charles Manson?


    She’s an amazing woman.

    • Elrond Hubbard October 11, 2016 at 1:04 pm #

      Bad as she is, it would take something much, much worse than Hillary Clinton to persuade African-Americans to vote for Trump.

    • seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 1:36 pm #

      the Republican dog whistles have called out Cujo.

  27. thwack October 10, 2016 at 2:07 pm #


    “Of course that means the financial collapse will be harder and deeper when it comes.”

    women like it “harder and deeper” when they come…


    I’ll get my coat.

    • dweebus October 10, 2016 at 8:23 pm #


      Good pun, but as they say, a pun is the lowest form of humor.

  28. FincaInTheMountains October 10, 2016 at 2:12 pm #

    The trick of self-destruction


  29. pequiste October 10, 2016 at 2:13 pm #

    Poached elephant would be more like it.

    And in the world of 2016 US politix saying one “wants a piece of ass” can be considered a hate crime (but I swear Commissar Lynch, I only meant I wanted to be a part of the Democratic party.)

    If we of the USSA are in for a slow drowning in quicksand then at least I want to see the establishment of several national and regional parties to help take down the vile and treasonous Establishment “two wings of the same bird.” (Pat Buchanan)

    A couple of national parties could easily be started based on race for both Blacks and Hispanics. They would certainly do better in the Congress voting as a block rather than being beholden to Establishment parties ( those NWO puppet government agents.)

    Regional parties could have a bright future with the Old South and mountain West having real historic and current economic, religious, cultural bonds that would give them sizable caucuses in the Congress and again could make all sorts of political bargains with the other smaller parties. Something more akin to a parliamentary system where the party in power must make a coalition to get anything done beside remaining in power.

    If we are, instead, doomed to a relatively soon EMP strike by Kim Jung Un, collapse of the world economic system, or a global Marburg pandemic, then political parties are just a vestigal organ of a once great, powerful nation-state and it won’t matter a whit who sits in the Oval Office.

    Whenever and however it happens, the denouement will be a shocker.

  30. PeteAtomic October 10, 2016 at 2:18 pm #

    It’s always odd to me that people (particularly on the Left) bemoan a current lack of faith in the federal gov’t when you watch these ‘debates’ like yesterdays, and see the 2 candidates exposing just how corrupt, inept, deceptive & debased they really are.

  31. Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2016 at 2:55 pm #

    Trump promised to investigate Clinton – this time for real, with a view towards prosecution. That’s what we want, right? Stop being so weak, folks. You thought the Great Dictator would be some kind of Dance Hall Sheik, an exotic, tall, dark and handsome? A Joe DiMaggio towards your inner Marilyn Monroe? Too bad – we’ve got a Red Lion who will do what all the “Nice Folks” said they wanted but don’t have the balls or the leaders or the ball to vote for the leaders to do.

    Check out Bill’s face in this article. Priceless. At last the great Criminal is brought to bay. No Democrat would do it. And no Republican wanted to or could – until now.


    On the Title: Sally Kohn is shocked – Shocked – that Trump wants to get along with Russia. I mean they’re only a nuclear power with nuclear weapons far newer than our’s…..

    The rise of The Drumph Dynasty is inexorable, like breaking Dawn or the incoming Tide. You all are a bunch of Canutes ordering the Tide to go back. But the Waters of Existence are already up to your waist and waves splash into your gaping mouths. The Foam tickles your beards and cleanses your sins.

    • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 3:02 pm #

      You’re sound like Trump gets you wet. Feel a little tickly in that special place?

      • Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2016 at 7:25 pm #

        I knew you was low, but I didn’t know how low until today. You’re right down there in the gutter with Michelle, the curbstone a Grand Canyon above you.

        • seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 9:53 am #

          Take a look above you, way above the clouds, way out there towards the heavens…for you Trump Republicans that’s rock bottom. What’s next, defending pedophilia? It’s just a kiss away, to stay on the Gimme Shelter theme.

    • Frankiti October 10, 2016 at 3:19 pm #

      “At last the great Criminal is brought to bay. No Democrat would do it. And no Republican wanted to or could – until now.”

      Perhaps because what this election has brought to surface besides a video of someone talking about “p*ssies” is something vastly more significant… as in the conclusive evidence that this country is run by a donklephant confederacy that preserves the game over the player.

      The struggle to maintain this facade, this theater, has torn down the curtain… but hey, everyone look: he said grab her (meow)!

      • seawolf77 October 10, 2016 at 3:31 pm #

        He said more than that. He said I can do whatever I want.

        • Frankiti October 10, 2016 at 3:43 pm #

          Simpleton, where do you think this video has been hiding? Why do you think it was released a few days before the debate? Why do you think they believe it will be effective?

          Because imbeciles are easily distracted.

          What do you believe wealth means? Great wealth?
          Do you think wealthy people want to buy shiny things? Electronic doodads?

          Wealth buys freedom. Freedom to allow one to do whatever they want. If you’re confused, see the Clintons pursuit of it.

          And no, I don’t actually want your answers. You can’t fix stupid.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2016 at 9:22 pm #

            I knew this guy had issues, but I never took him for a rabid Clintonista. What the fuck happened to him? Was it some kind of Alien DNA perhaps?

          • seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 10:39 am #

            No it was a Trump enema that did it. Now you’re quoting Forrest Gump a paragraph after you call me a simpleton. Do you even realize how idiotic your arguments sound? Of course not, you wouldn’t say them… Duh.

  32. tucsonspur October 10, 2016 at 3:04 pm #

    “Gird up now thy loins like a man, for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me”. The bible.

    Change the above to “for it will be Hillary”.

    The polls show her up by 9 to 12 points in places, and by 4 t0 5 in many others. Maybe Trump’s triumph last night hasn’t fully settled in.

    The media and the machine have savaged Trump, and will continue to do so. Democrats knocking on doors in my neighborhood, no Republicans.

    I said it years ago; “Sonofabitch”. “Stop Obama now or face awful, big, intense, tragic consequences hereafter”.

    One of those consequences is the further entrenchment of the Democratic machine, with roots now so deep they couldn’t be pulled up by a giant, big bucket excavator.

    With all his radical associations, even with his talk of forming his own “army” and RADICALLY transforming America, Obama wasn’t stopped.

    Of course both candidates will have the choice to confront or deny the major issues facing us, issues so eloquently described by our host. For the most part, those issues will be denied.

    So the cycle of crashes and recovery will occur, with the mantra always being growth to recover, until we simply can’t grow anymore.

    It’s not to early to ask; “What will happen if Hillary is elected?”
    As most of us might guess, a lot of hand wringing, a lot of finger pointing, a lot of muttering and stuttering, a lot of moaning and groaning, but not much else. Obama’s election already proved that.

    And so we will sink into the cesspool of the left, and deal with “The Long Emergency” while enveloped in an everlasting stench.

  33. Frankiti October 10, 2016 at 3:36 pm #

    “If there is one outstanding upshot of these “debates” it must be their staggering failure to reassure the American public that they can expect effective leadership through the hardships ahead. There must be many others out there like myself wondering who will emerge from the rubble? I suspect it will be someone we haven’t heard of before, just as Bonaparte was unheard of in France in 1792. This is not entirely a nation of clowns, though it feels like that lately.”

    This paragraph succinctly demonstrates the problem with the system.

    First, what kind of person sincerely expects leadership, let alone an effective variety, from a politician, or from a person willing to debase themselves in the American political realm? Has it occurred to anyone that the appropriate people are simply not allowed to enter, are politely discouraged? The last round of Wikileaks further exposed the narrative that Trump was “allowed” and “supported” in the beginning because he was regarded as an easy opponent in the end.

    We are in the rubble. Is this not clear? You see what is crawling from it. This is not a nation of clowns, because it is a state of clowns. Their is no American nation, if there ever was. It has long since vanished. We are living in a country without a nation, and we will see this when Hillary tries to marshall support for war against Russia in the near future. I certainly hope she requires her illegal alien voting base to register for selective service.

    The US is a corporate foreign legion, you just live here.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 10, 2016 at 4:06 pm #

      I certainly hope she requires her illegal alien voting base to register for selective service

      Ha, ha – that’s the whole point! If “selective services” include Hillary’s personal praetorian guard.

      I hear in Jordan, Hillary’s people busily selecting “refugees” with special “selective” skills.

    • ozone October 10, 2016 at 8:11 pm #

      A heapin’ helpin’ of cynicism and snark, with a soupcon of “well, you asked for it, now you’re gonna get it”, sets the proper tone and mood. Attend, thou of broken faith and vanished trust; get thee ready, quick and soon…:


      (Jeffery St. Clair does it again; bullet-pointing his way to ignominy and shunned honesty.)

      • Frankiti October 10, 2016 at 9:40 pm #

        The thing is, people that pay attention, that are aware of how the story unfolds, knew this exact sort of thing would happen. They also knew it would work. The Clinton pivot. The orchestrated diversion. There will be more. They will work.

        You see, despite a multitude of websites, just like this one, haunted by pseudo-intellectuals and WordPress pundits, you are still left with a dummy at the core. Perhaps there is a sheepskin from some land grant college, or some retirement autodidact’s library, but through and through, you still have the unwashed an unlearned. The easily manipulated. Distraction is a muscle-memory bred in deep through poor parenting and poor schools. From lives poor in many ways.

        And they know this. They know the hardwired faults. Working and middle class people live off of distractions. It’s what gets them through Monday to Friday. The weekend fishing trip, watching people chase inflatable balls all Sunday on TV, Friday happy hour binge drinking; all of these distractions from their depressingly banal lives.
        Every day.
        Dopamine feeds the dopes. A week’s worth of media fulmination delivers the appropriate dose.They not only chase it, they crave it.
        They believe it.

        It’s expensive, feeding the dummies. Fortunately, Hillary has many wealthy friends willing to pay for the grub. This is what wins elections.
        They know it.
        Some of us know it.

        It’s the programming fed to people programmed from birth.
        Do all right at school.
        Go to college.
        Get a degree.
        Get a job. A job that pays bills.
        That’s all you need.
        Find a gal.
        A gal that wants to settle down.
        Preferably in the burbs.
        Get a mortgage.
        Keep that head down and nose on the grindstone.
        Have kids.
        Hope they’re geniuses, know they’re unremarkable.
        Spend time and money trying to make them better… better than you.
        Retire somewhere warm.

        You think you choose. You thought you chose.
        You never did.

        • beantownbill. October 11, 2016 at 12:05 am #

          Maybe I’m lucky, but I realized what the world had planned for me when I was in college, and I rebelled against it. I once had an office job that was extremely secure. I could have gone along with the establishment, stayed 40 years, had a nice 401k, excellent benefits and and retired at 62. But I just couldn’t do it because I wouldn’t have been true to myself. I knew it was all bullshit; I would have destroyed myself. Instead, I quit, not knowing what I’d do next. I took the insecure road and have never, ever looked back. Happily.

          Frankiti, at the time I had that job, I wrote down what my life would be like continuing as I was doing, and I came up with a life just as you described above. I just want to tell you that your post resonated with me, and why.

          • BackRowHeckler October 11, 2016 at 12:42 am #

            Bill, do you mean you left an established family business to strike out on your own? Because, really, there’s nothing wrong secure office job with good pay and benefits, if you could stand it.

            Anyway, based on you posts you seem to have done alright for yourself and your family, and have a pretty good life now in retirement.

            Red Sox eliminated in 3 games.. I can hardly believe it.


        • JimInFlorida October 11, 2016 at 9:57 am #

          MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) is the HMS Carpathia for straight men wanting to escape the sinking ship of ZOG Amerika and ZOG- U.K. We have escaped the programming illustrated by Franktiti and many have dodged the trap of children. ZOG Amerika is NOT a fit place to raise children, anyway.

          MGTOW monks may not produce children but, we preserve moral, material, and social value. We actually have the power to choose.

          • dannyboy October 11, 2016 at 12:19 pm #

            is florida the new capital?

          • JimInFlorida October 11, 2016 at 4:38 pm #

            Flori-Duh is probably appeals to the slacker or surfer MGTOW man.

            I would image the ultimate MGTOW place would be a state like Montana or Wyoming.

          • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 11:58 am #

            you know, Jim

            You probably would like the move. Why not?

            i gonna’ call you JimInMontana and JimInWyoming from now on. Get you used the the idea.

  34. FincaInTheMountains October 10, 2016 at 4:51 pm #

    Trump, having apologized for his words of a decade ago, said that the publication of the record is an attempt to distract voters’ attention from the really serious problems facing the United States, and, judging by the voter’s, they agree with him, not with the hypocrites of the Republican Party elite. In any case, even after this scandal, experts in opinion polls from Fox5 channel could not outrun their colleagues from CNN and attribute to Clinton’s advantage of more than 5%.

    But they seriously calculated using these figures to convince Trump to withdraw his candidacy, but he angrily rejected such a possibility, and promised in return to raise the question of the relation of Hillary Clinton to the victims of sexual violence. And he hinted that it’s not just about her protection of her husband, who almost became impeached in connection with the “non-sexual” relationship with Monica Lewinsky in the Oval Office of the White House and is related to the recording of a young lawyer, Hillary Clinton, that recently appeared on the Internet.

    In this record, Hillary Clinton, laughing, said on the sidelines of the court that, after her client was able to pass polygraph test to prove his innocence, she lost all confidence in this device.

    The problem is that this client was accused of raping a 12-year-old girl and a lawyer, Hillary Clinton won the case, accusing the victim of immoral behavior and almost of prostitution. As a result, the girl was hospitalized in a psychiatric institution, the rapist was freed to repeat his crime, and the lawyer, who achieved this 40 years ago, now is trying to break into the White House, trying using anecdotal accusations not just to win against Donald Trump, but also to prevent a serious discussion of the problems, facing the United States.

    • dannyboy October 11, 2016 at 12:22 pm #

      “that recently appeared on the Internet”

      sounds about as reliable as using the CFN Comments to guide investment decisions.

  35. FincaInTheMountains October 10, 2016 at 5:00 pm #

    Hmm, US Air Force in Syria paints their jets in Russian colors


    Getting ready to surrender or just cooking up a new provo?

    • JimInFlorida October 10, 2016 at 6:18 pm #

      Smells like a war crime in the making that can be blamed on Putin. False flags are nothing new but, this is a novel approach.

      A few months back, a Su-24 was on non-alert recon and got ambushed with its pants down. Hopefully, Putin has put a stop to such slackness and will not let the U.S, Israel, or Turkey pull another stunt.

  36. Q. Shtik October 10, 2016 at 6:05 pm #

    Hey Cold,

    I read your Defending the Indefensible link from top to bottom – ‘Nice’ – and see two of my fingerprints in it:

    . many many people
    . brother in law Peter

    Thanks for thinking of me.

    But, getting back to PussyGate, I think the opprobrium has been overdone. We all know that Trump is a liar and an Olympic Gold exaggerator. If he had been groping the peeps of every pretty woman he ever met I think we would have heard about it before now.

    Of course now that the pussy is out of the bag, every woman and her sister will be claiming they were groped by The Donald (a la Cosby) and it will be a feather in their cap and affirmation that they are irresistibly ‘pretty.’ Even where it is true some women may have been flattered by the brazen animal attentions of a rich and powerful man (even if he is actually dead broke).

    BTW, you should NOT take it that I am supporting Trump. As I stated ages ago, I will not be voting at all.

  37. Q. Shtik October 10, 2016 at 6:25 pm #

    We haven’t seen wpa-ccc today (yet) and I am going under the assumption that his handlers have given him the day off if not the entire week for his indefatigable work on behalf of the cause.

    • dannyboy October 10, 2016 at 7:56 pm #

      i expect that, after watching the debate, he is certain of Hillary’s victory and is preparing for the new President.

      • wpa_ccc October 11, 2016 at 2:46 am #

        “i expect that, after watching the debate, he is certain of Hillary’s victory and is preparing for the new President.” –Danny boy

        Close, dannyboy but first things first. I haven’t had time to comment today because I am having fun volunteering and registering new voters.

        I am particularly seeking out gays, lesbians, transgendered, other queer folks, Muslims, immigrants who have become naturalized citizens, millennials, philosophy students, disabled, vegans, soccer moms, Bernie supporters, veterans for peace, Greens, socialists, communists, libertarians, hispanics, crones, witches, Wiccan, African Americans, Bhakti practitioners, feminists, pacifists, meditators, Sufis, Quakers, radical musicians, Hindus, Jains, Jews, Sikhs, Buddhists… I’ve met so many interesting people who will vote ABT.

        I use “gentle vetting” (as opposed to Trump’s “extreme vetting”) … so as to make my gentle voter registration efforts most effective to defeat Trump… and have fun doing it.

        YMMV. Deadlines vary by state.


        ABT 2016


        • Q. Shtik October 11, 2016 at 12:38 pm #

          In short, everyone but American Indians and average white males who work 9 to 5 and whose ancestors arrived from Europe in 1750? These you wouldn’t touch with a 10 foot pole.

          Also, your registrants must convincingly declare to you their voting intentions.

        • JimInFlorida October 11, 2016 at 4:49 pm #

          Bigoted, anti-White, hate-filled, discriminating, caucaphobic skank!
          You would go apoplectic if a WASP man in a business suit came up and wanted to register at your table.

    • malthuss October 11, 2016 at 10:43 am #

      Are you serious? Handlers?

  38. Janos Skorenzy October 10, 2016 at 9:04 pm #

    Look at the old clips, the women loved Trump and threw themselves at him. Indeed, he could do just about anything – and with their obvious consent. Money, Fame, Power – these are catnip to women. The middle aged women who are trashing Trump are forgetting how they may well have done the same thing in their youth with Rock Stars. Slightly different scene, but essentially the same thing. But since they are no longer desired or desirable, such activities are now distasteful to them – if even remembered. As I said, hypocrisy comes very easy to women and their memories are often very selective in their own favor.

    • seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 1:43 pm #

      Could you please post one of those old clips. I never saw any such thing.

    • AKlein October 12, 2016 at 12:29 pm #

      Janos, you bring up an interesting observation. What did happen to all those groupies who were driven by their own notions to “service” rock stars after their performances? I would hardly imagine their worshiping at the crotches of the rock stars led to any kind of relationship. Are they now leading religion classes at church? Clerking at Dollar stores? Sitting on corporate boards? What sort of politics do they now have? Do they feel a kinship with the female politicos of the current day? What is there opinion now of men? How do they perceive themselves? I’d like to know.

  39. BackRowHeckler October 10, 2016 at 9:53 pm #

    Jim, maybe out of this wreckage a great leader will emerge, like Lincoln, or TR.

    Meanwhile we will be witness to a shrill, physically deteriorating President Clinton holding court at ‘Woman’s Empowerment’ seminars, while the world boils up around us.


    • bukowskisghost October 10, 2016 at 11:01 pm #

      The comment section and I have devolved…. I actually believe Janos can make the trains run on time.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 11, 2016 at 12:40 am #

        Thanks. Bukowski would have loved Trump. Men are loyal to him and he is loyal to those who are loyal to him.

      • dannyboy October 11, 2016 at 12:24 pm #

        “I actually believe Janos can make the trains run on time.”

        …but first he’d need to locate reality.

        • seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 1:34 pm #

          In his world, reality is around the corner from disaster.

    • beantownbill. October 11, 2016 at 12:12 am #

      Marlin, I haven’t replied much lately to your posts, but I do read them. I have to tell you that I think I understand the feelings of anger and despair that inform your writings, I mostly feel disgust for what I see happening around me.

    • malthuss October 11, 2016 at 12:20 am #

      Check out the eyesore, [if you have not yet done so].

      I found it good for a laugh.

      Forget ‘Bridges to Nowhere’, now its a ‘Stairway to Heaven.’


  40. Q. Shtik October 11, 2016 at 12:39 am #

    Everybody but Trump has forgotten the old saw: “There is no such thing as bad publicity.”

    • Elrond Hubbard October 11, 2016 at 4:22 pm #

      Well, there are limits. Even today, Jeffrey Dahmer wouldn’t get a book deal.

      • seawolf77 October 13, 2016 at 1:18 pm #

        I killed him. I ate him. I refrigerated the leftovers. There’s a page turner.

  41. Theedrich October 11, 2016 at 1:48 am #

    The stupefying thing about the debates last night (Sunday, 2016 Oct 9) was not the two candidates (who included professional tear-jerker Clinton), but the audience of “undecideds.”  They were the most embarrassingly moronic gaggle of viewers ever to expose themselves on national TV.  The final question was from a cretin who asked what each candidate found nice in the other.  As if such a question had anything whatsoever to do with running any nation, let alone the U.S.  So now we know that snowflakes are going to decide the election.  They will, of course, elect the Demonic Party’s insane banshee who will cause the country to veer off into World War Three.  До свидания, Америка!

    • Frankiti October 11, 2016 at 8:15 am #

      Only one person had the courage to answer it.

      • Q. Shtik October 11, 2016 at 1:28 pm #

        Frank, I didn’t watch the debate (or any of the debates) but my kids told me about the question of the candidates saying something positive about their opponent and it’s my understanding that Hillary said Trump had wonderful kids and Trump said he generally doesn’t like to see women wearing pantsuits but her outfit tonight, and her kitten pumps, are very nice.

        If those were not his exact words they should have been…….you know, a left-handed compliment.

        • seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 1:33 pm #

          It’s called a neg.

        • Frankiti October 11, 2016 at 8:36 pm #

          “Hillary, well, Hillary looks, eh, friendly tonight, y’know? Like Grimace in pumps… they even share the same smile”

          -a NY compliment.

          • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 12:01 pm #

            “-a NY compliment.”

            kind of a broad brush there

          • seawolf77 October 13, 2016 at 1:22 pm #

            Genius has a pathological need to correct people. It’s like someone who eats their own buggars. They really believe people can’t see them do it.

  42. FincaInTheMountains October 11, 2016 at 5:05 am #

    The Fly of Fate

    It’s amazing, but, judging by the blogs of my New York friends, after all the shit that has landed on them within the past several days, the greatest impression on them made a fly that landed on Hillary’s face.

    Reminds me of an old Jewish anecdote:

    — Moesha, you’ve got a fly on your face
    — Haim, are you telling me that I am a piece of shit?
    — No, ‘course not! I’m just telling you that the flies know where they wanna land



  43. FincaInTheMountains October 11, 2016 at 5:45 am #

    The White Emperor started his voyage around the NATO World


    France’s Madam Hollande is anxiously waiting

  44. Cold N. Holefield October 11, 2016 at 6:51 am #

    Frankiti said: You think you choose. You thought you chose. You never did.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t you on record as stating you will vote for Trump in order to collapse the whole thing quicker? If so, considering the All-Knowing Panopticon you have described with your latest comment, don’t you think your strategy has been factored in just as the Stock Market has already factored in a potential Trump “win” in November? Or are you the only one who has a free choice and the rest of us are Programmed Automatons?

    FYI, I’m not discounting your view, I think there is much merit in what you say, but with the added caveat that neither you nor me are an exception to the rule, but instead, we are part of the rule. Our response has been programmed and accounted for. There is no way out. There is only in — maybe for all eternity if we are perpetually born into the same existence over and over again.

    The Terrible & Secret Fate Of All Life

    • Cold N. Holefield October 11, 2016 at 7:04 am #

      Let me elaborate a bit. Perhaps there are a few amongst us who have taken it upon ourselves to feel around in the dark of Plato’s Cave. It then necessarily follows that we compare what we’re feeling with the Shadow Play on the cave wall, and what do you know, it doesn’t match up. The shadows are a gross misrepresentation or worse yet, not a representation at all of the reality that hides in the Darkness just beyond the limits of sight. Considering that, there are those amongst us in this comments section and everywhere you search high and low on The Net and elsewhere but increasingly The Net who’s job it is to prevent and mitigate the Cave Dwellers from feeling around in the Dark, or if they do, to rip their hands off so they can feel no more. These Centurions are responsible for maintaining everyone’s focus on the misrepresentative Shadow Play on the cave wall, and as part of that, they denigrate and marginalize any & all who divert their attention from that Shadow Play drama to discover what lurks in the Darkness. That has been my experience. It is very real. It is happening. There are concomitant alternate realities and the one presented by the Social Engineers has no credibility whatsoever.

      • Cold N. Holefield October 11, 2016 at 7:36 am #

        This is a fine example of what I mean.

        brh said: Because, really, there’s nothing wrong secure office job with good pay and benefits, if you could stand it.

        It’s Orwellian. EVERYTHING is wrong with a secure office job with good pay & benefits, and the cherry on top of this propaganda is that he betrays his assertion with “if you can stand it.”

        It’s an advertisement to be a slave or continue to be a slave. The Darkness requires it.

        • Frankiti October 11, 2016 at 8:47 am #

          It’s amazing how people belie their Facebook avatar.
          Happy days and smiles.


          They’re the palliative to the modern American existence.
          They allow one to stand it… almost.

    • Frankiti October 11, 2016 at 8:22 am #

      We are witnessing a gross miscalculation. Trump was never to make it past November. The party would sabotage and abandon him. JHK was correct. The deep state would assasinate him. It’s a character assasination of an already maligned character. They are not finished. They will leave him for dead going in to November.
      This was calculated, most assuredly.

      • Cold N. Holefield October 11, 2016 at 8:48 am #

        I think you may be right. Look at Karl Rove when they have him on to discuss his perspective about all of this. He’s as Cool as a Cucumber. Unflappable. He simply isn’t concerned. This is the guy who Masterminded Dubya as POTUS — something I thought they could never pull off — selling Dubya to the Polity. In fact, I’d say Rove is enjoying it.

        If Trump was anointed POTUS by The Elite, it could only be by design, and Good God Almighty, if that’s the design, can you imagine what the next eight years will look like if he’s the face of it? Say what you want about Hitler — he didn’t engage in Locker Room Banter and he didn’t grab pussy. Maybe he grabbed a bit of dick every now & then (his own, mainly, but perhaps another man’s occasionally as well), but never pussy.

        The Horror. The Horror.

        The Elite are truly insane — I believe that at this point. They are Insane Psychopaths. In the next eight years or more, their indifference to us Pests may turn to outright Malevolence, and if the High Fructose Corn Syrup Infused Ken Bone (I bet he’s Janos) is any indication, there will be no defense.

        Ken has stretched the limits of that red sweater without ripping it in two — a miracle in its own right.

        Bad To The Bone

        • Frankiti October 11, 2016 at 9:50 am #

          I wasn’t sure st first, then I saw it correctly; his white tie… and khaki pants after Labor Day. A true rebel.

          • Cold N. Holefield October 11, 2016 at 9:56 am #

            Yep, he’s a contemporary Sir William Wallace. Don’t you agree? “I want to live — to eat another day!!” The Media loves him, though. Afterall, he is their Target Market. Wall-E is a Documentary, not an animated movie for the entertainment of children.

        • seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 1:24 pm #

          “My dream, my nightmare…is to watch a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor, a straight razor, and survive. ” Colonel Kursk

        • JimInFlorida October 11, 2016 at 8:52 pm #

          “The Elite are truly insane — I believe that at this point. They are Insane Psychopaths. In the next eight years or more, their indifference to us Pests may turn to outright Malevolence,…..”
          – Cold NH

          Little by little, you are all nibbling ever so gingerly around my epiphany…Infallible Truth encapsulated in a bumper sticker-style slogan:

          “Kill The Billionaires Or Billions Will Be Killed. It’s Just That Simple.”

          Since time is short, and the choice for POTUS clear, we may have to suffer The Donald while Divine Justice condemns the the rest. A billionaire in rebellion against the Establishment may be permitted to earn an indulgence in the Court of Heaven.

          In the end, however, even The Donald will have to choose between the American People (pre-1965 demographic profile) and a good standing with TPTB. If Donald chooses TPTB, his soul will be snatched out of him at a most inopportune time, torn apart, and distributed among the various places in the Eighth Circle of Hell, as described by Dante.

  45. FincaInTheMountains October 11, 2016 at 8:44 am #

    The Fly

    “The man sitting at the table head beside Bruce Montgomery was bald – defiantly bald, as if he was proud of his baldness, bald to the point that I could not help wonder whether he ever grew any hair. On his head was crawling a fly, but he did not pay any attention to it. I shuddered just seeing that fly, with reckless impudence strolling along the bare pink skull. While it was there strolling, I literally felt on my own skin stalking, repulsive to the extreme tingling of its feet.

    But the stranger sat like a statue, staring over our heads on the wall opposite the conference hall, as if he had something there fascinated by…”

    Clifford D. Simak, “Almost like people”

  46. FincaInTheMountains October 11, 2016 at 8:56 am #

    The Fly don’t let you lie


    • seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 8:05 pm #

      He killed the fly. I don’t get it.

  47. pequiste October 11, 2016 at 9:28 am #


    Jeffrey St. Clair’s Counterpunch autopsy of the “town hall” was excellent.

    The only part he forgot was to describe the smell; there is not enough Pine-sol, alchol or Lysol in the county to erase it.

  48. wpa_ccc October 11, 2016 at 10:57 am #


    Donald Trump, based on his last debate, is acting as a Ruusian agent to undermine our democratic elections. The proof is Trump’s continued denial te Russians are hacking the US elections… even after receiving intelligence briefings acknowledging high confidence (90%) that Russia is behind the hacking. We kill people based on good confidence (75%). Trump is either wittingly or unwittingly (useful idiot) acting on behalf of Russia … acting against the US.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 11, 2016 at 11:11 am #

      Is it no better than, like Hillary, to act as an agent of Saudi Arabia, the Fourth Reich of Angela Merkel and the ISIS cannibals?

      Russia is a natural ally of the United States, there are no unresolvable contradictions between their National Interests, as long as the agents of foreign powers that infiltrated the government of US are not trying to inflame a conflict.

  49. barbisbest October 11, 2016 at 11:05 am #

    “Never said she’d be the winner.” and. J a n o s skorenzy’s response “he crushed her. Barb.” I wasn’t referring to the debate. J a n o s. Are we a nation or a comedy club? Questions never meant. What’s the consensus. A survey then. Weep for this nation. Seriously?!?!? There is weeping. But not for this nation. There’s a lot of nuance in the last sentence. Perhaps there are some who aren’t clowns. There’s a plethora of ‘ em. Yet, there should be laughter now and again
    And tears. Both are useful in good measure. Remember no. T. V.s should be harmed in this election cycle.

  50. barbisbest October 11, 2016 at 11:23 am #

    Maybe a few tears for the nation too. One of the most amazing times in human history to be alive! Woohoo!

  51. barbisbest October 11, 2016 at 11:29 am #

    “Remember no t.v. set should be harmed this election cycle” there I go again. You do show wit here too sometimes. J. K. One of the most amazing times in history to be alive. The future’s looking brighter every mornin when I get up.

  52. wpa_ccc October 11, 2016 at 11:31 am #

    “If voting mattered they would not allow us to do it.” !!! –Mark Twain via wardoc

    The history of voter suppression and disenfranchisement efforts confirms that voting matters. That is why we have to fight for the right. That is why many have died for the right… for my right to vote my conscience for Dr. Jill Stein.

  53. wpa_ccc October 11, 2016 at 11:49 am #

    320 polls from 42 pollsters confirm Trump is a wounded elephant. Hillary is now leading Trump by 7% nationwide, higher in some swing states. It’s over. Slowly, with a weeks’ long building momentum, Clinton is destroying Trump. It may be the biggest landslide ever, with Clinton in control of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., Clinton in control of the House of Representatives, Clinton in control of the Senate, Clinton in control of the composition of the Supreme Court, Clinton in control of the armed forces as the US Commander in Chief.

    The future is feminine. Masculine testosterone has gotten us into our world in crisis. Jill or Hillary will have to turn it around.

    • seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 1:21 pm #

      Jack and Jill went up the hill
      Both with a buck and a quarter
      Jill came down the hill with $2.50

      • elysianfield October 11, 2016 at 1:34 pm #

        “Jack and Jill went up the hill
        Both with a buck and a quarter
        Jill came down the hill with $2.50…”

        And Jack with a “social disorder”.

        • Q. Shtik October 11, 2016 at 10:19 pm #

          E, You and seawolf both F’d up the poem’s meter by including the words ‘the hill’ on the third line.

        • elysianfield October 12, 2016 at 8:14 pm #

          ““Jack and Jill went up the hill
          Both with a buck and a quarter
          Jill came down the hill with $2.50…”

          And Jack with a “social disorder

          “E, You and seawolf both F’d up the poem’s meter by including the words ‘the hill’ on the third line”

          Jack and Jill went up the hill,
          Both with a buck and a quarter,
          Jill came down with a handful of bills,
          And Jack with a “social disorder”

          My apologies….I attended a public university.

      • seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 1:41 pm #


      • Q. Shtik October 11, 2016 at 2:53 pm #

        Here’s how I always heard it:

        Jack and Jill went up the hill

        Each with a dollar and a quarter

        Jill came down with two and a half

        They didn’t go up for water.

        • stelmosfire October 11, 2016 at 4:38 pm #

          So D TRUMP flings a few rude remarks. Someone should hang in the firehouse, police house, or any locker room for that matter. The woman pitch i worth than the men. believe me. This is nothing but bull—-t. Dicks dorks, dongs, nothing is off limits.

          • wpa_ccc October 11, 2016 at 10:12 pm #

            “This is nothing but bull—-t. Dicks dorks, dongs, nothing is off limits.” — Stelmosfire

            DONALD was wearing a microphone and was not in a locker room. He publicly said he would bang his daughter.

            Have you ever heard anyone say of an underage daughter: “my daughter is a piece of ass and I’d bang her” Bill never said that about Chelsea.

            I have never heard anyone in a locker room say that or outside a locker room, or anywhere else, by anyone, ever.

            It is not bullshit. Whiny ass DONALD is in a league of his own publicly saying several times, over airwaves, that he wants to bang his daughter.

  54. Cold N. Holefield October 11, 2016 at 12:07 pm #

    Peter Harris above, you are the Flim Flam artist. You’re also redundant & tautological when you refer to Flim Flim as Nonsensical Flim Flam.

    Peter considers himself on the outside looking in as he derides the American Public he describes as Poor (Middle Class) White Trash. I have news for you, Pete, there is no outside any longer if there ever was. That’s why Nigel Farage was at the Debate the other night in St. Louis and Happy As A Lark afterward when he was interviewed. Whatever you wish upon anyone else, you in turn will get your fair share of it. Globalization has ensured that very basic & essential fact. If you wish genocide upon a people, you wish for your own death sentence.

  55. Cold N. Holefield October 11, 2016 at 12:10 pm #

    A new Netflix Original Series brought to you by Asoka Productions.

    Estrogen Is The New Testosterone

    Women can blow shit up too!!!!

    • seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 1:31 pm #

      100 is the new 80.

    • Elrond Hubbard October 11, 2016 at 4:30 pm #

      A propos, is The Expendabelles getting made or what?

      I wanna see Sigourney Weaver kicking ass next to Linda Hamilton.


      • seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 6:45 pm #

        That’s funny. It’s like Clint Eastwood in “Gran Torino.” I mean the guy was so old he looked like he was about to fall over and he’s going into the hood and scaring homeboys straight. I know it’s the movies but c’mon man.

  56. Cold N. Holefield October 11, 2016 at 12:14 pm #

    I’m guessing Bill’s getting excited about the new White House Interns. Word on the street is, Epstein has some great candidates lined up for Bill to choose from, and of course, age is of no concern because, as we know, when you’re famous you can do whatever you want to women — and girls as well.

    I wonder who will be the next Vince Foster? Hopefully they pick another park to suicide their next victim who knows too much. The same park would be too obvious — as if being obvious even matters anymore.

  57. barbisbest October 11, 2016 at 12:38 pm #

    I’ve read some of the posts here, something to the effect, they’ll elect the crazy banshe e who will bring on world war. 3. War is a shot away as was written above. Anyone who thinks electing trump negates that is mistaken. You think trump will mean peace? Still, amazing, interesting time. Fear is not an option!

    • elysianfield October 11, 2016 at 1:46 pm #

      “war. 3. War is a shot away as was written above. Anyone who thinks electing trump negates that is mistaken. You think trump will mean peace?”

      Unknown if he will, but believe with certainty that the lizard queen won’t…she has a proven track record, and has been bought and paid for by the profiteers. Even if Trump can be given a 5% probability for peace, would that not be enough? It may be time for the devil we don’t know, rather than the devil we do….

      “In your guts, you know he’s nuts…”
      Trump in 2016

  58. Cold N. Holefield October 11, 2016 at 12:50 pm #

    I have to laugh at Q. Shtik blowing me off about the unwarranted attention I receive from The Surveillance State. The other day I showed proof of he Navy Information Operations Command viewing my blog and today, I have the Mitre organization viewing my blog as they are wont to do periodically per my stats as well as the DoD and, believe it or not, the Office of the Executive of the United States several times. No lie. An obscure blog like mine that Q. Shtik sees no value in and could never understand why anyone would be interested in it except to correct numerous grammatical & spelling errors.


    • Cold N. Holefield October 11, 2016 at 12:54 pm #

      Oh, and NASA too. NASA hit my blog twice early this morning but it’s not the first time. It’s viewed my blog a number of times in the past year. Little Ol’ Me — a Toddler in my Playpen for Q. Shtik to throw rocks at like his hero Trump.

      • Q. Shtik October 11, 2016 at 8:17 pm #

        a Toddler in my Playpen for Q. Shtik to throw rocks at like his hero Trump. – Cold


        Now see, another example of paranoia.

      • Q. Shtik October 11, 2016 at 9:32 pm #

        It’s viewed my blog a number of times in the past year. Little Ol’ Me – Cold


        You love it. What better validation that your life is meaningful.

    • Q. Shtik October 11, 2016 at 3:30 pm #

      I think if you re-read what I said you’ll realize my “obscure blog” reference was to CFN, not Catcher in the Lie.

      Be that as it may, as I look at your Mitre link I see that the last mentioned area of Mitre’s expertise and helpful solutions is “cybersecurity.” Perhaps their algorithms* detected one of your numerous complaints about hacking/security/death threats to your family/wacky windshield wipers/etc/etc so they visited your site to see if you might be a potential customer. This would be the sane Occam’s Razor surmise.

      * Since writing about pussy, I am deluged with ads and coupons for kitty litter and cat urine stench remover, etc.

    • Q. Shtik October 11, 2016 at 9:49 pm #

      An obscure blog like mine that Q. Shtik sees no value in and could never understand why anyone would be interested in it – Cold


      Oh shush! You’re being ridiculous. I never said any such thing. Why would I read every word of it if I thought it was valueless? …………until you clearly went off the deep end on that MM mystery thing……. and blocked my ass. Seriously, you like to stir up controversy with yourself at the center of it……very Trump-like.

      I like to read your shit because you DO have some unique insights and a way with words although you’re no JHK or David Foster Wallace (tm Lloyd Bentsen).

  59. seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 12:58 pm #

    I think Donald just named himself at 2nd debate. He said the word at least 25 times. “Disaster Donald.”

  60. barbisbest October 11, 2016 at 1:19 pm #

    Jano s Please don’t generalize as you did above. Not “every” woman would throw themself at a rock star or Donald trump, etc. That’s not always true and it’s stupid! Don’t generalize about women. Not all are easily dazzled. Even when I was younger I would not have been! Its not a good thing to generalize about a group of people. Since it was mentioned this week about war. According to a reputable news outlet, the u.s. is running out of bombs. (Peak everything) great! Should make for an interesting world. Woohoo. Like I was saying. J a nos please refrain from generalizing. Cheers.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 11, 2016 at 2:37 pm #

      If you don’t generalize, you can’t say anything about anything. If you don’t generalize, you can’t even think to yourself. We’d still be back in the mud huts of Matriarchy.

      Think Barb – if you can. This is meta-thinking or thinking about thinking. Piaget’s formal operational. Not everyone gets here. Many stop at Concrete Operational or thinking about things. First step for you? Admit you are generalizing all the time, say about Men. Or about Republicans.

      So the question is not whether to generalize or not generalize – it’s to generalize well, not make 10% into 80% for example.

      Some women never get to the stage of throwing themselves at famous men. They are either too discerning – or they know they wouldn’t stand a chance in the competition. Needless to say, they don’t admit the latter. Any woman who could be so honest would be extraordinary and worth knowing.

      I’m amazed at my own compassion for you. I hope you can find the same for me despite your “Elephant issues”.

      • seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 8:03 pm #

        So is meta-masturbation masturbating about masturbating?

        • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2016 at 12:37 am #

          Yes, the lower mind is a hall of mirrors, in your case, a “fun” house of distorting mirrors, some of which make you look normal.

          Is that exciting to you? The image of you masturbating repeated endlessly in monstrous forms?

          • seawolf77 October 12, 2016 at 9:54 am #


  61. barbisbest October 11, 2016 at 1:26 pm #

    I wouldn’t want trump to touch my dog, let alone my….
    …………cat. Or my fish..

  62. capt spaulding October 11, 2016 at 1:56 pm #

    Looks to me like the wheels are coming off everywhere.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 11, 2016 at 2:39 pm #

      Time to get a horse to pull our cars of iniquity. A travois has no wheels. Wheels are evil. Blacks and Indians never invented them and are therefore, good. So saith wpa.

  63. barbisbest October 11, 2016 at 2:43 pm #

    Elysianfield. I graciously appreciate your reply above about world war3. I really do t give a t in kers dam who wins this freak show election! In your guts (or otherwise) they’re both nuts. I may even vote for trump. Why not. The point I really wanted to get across is the world is running out of bombs. I thought you would notice. If I don’t want trump near me. That makes sane. Still got my wheels capt. Spaulding at least for a while. I still say, wheels or no, amazing (albeit difficult) time to be alive! Death be not proud.

  64. FincaInTheMountains October 11, 2016 at 2:48 pm #

    In the second debate, Hillary experienced the strongest knockdown after Donald Trump on the question about his Vice, “who required US military intervention in Syria,” said that he after the vice presidential debate “did not talk to Pence, and does not agree with him on this issue” .

    It was a clear message to those who urged him to hold back his wit and fighting qualities in the first televised debate and push hard on the brakes, that the laws of war are coming into effect, and they could have their brakes shove up the place, which in the case of a contingency will be affected more than other parts of the body. And they forced the anchors of the second televised debate, who actually were the seconds of Hillary, to throw a towel into the ring.

    And I have a suspicion that very brave and drastic actions by Vladimir Putin yesterday and today are due to the fact that he, too, watched the debates real time and came to the same conclusion.

    And to give weight to my conclusions, I would like to remind how all were skeptical when I said in June that Hillary Clinton had seized power in the United States. And now these merry fellows in connection with the events in Syria are forced to come up with the unsubordinated generals in the Pentagon, who wanted to spit on the current head of the State Department and especially on President Obama, whom Hillary is just using as an object of her personal hygiene.

    Meanwhile, all that unorthodox behavior of generals is in fact the implementation of the wishes or if you want orders by Hillary Clinton’s, which she not particularly hiding was giving for the last 6 years through the media, always ensuring their implementation.

    Hillary certainly seized power in the US not by herself, but with the help of standing behind her pseudo-religious sect, which I call Western Black Project and which Hillary called upon at the beginning of a televised debate by proclaiming the spell: “We are great, because we are good!”, for which there is a response spell: “we are good because we are Great!”.

  65. barbisbest October 11, 2016 at 3:16 pm #

    Jano s. I wouldn’t stand a chance with trump. Thank heaven for small favors. Even if I would have and someone paid me 10 million dollars I wouldn’t want trump. And yes. J a nos I can and I do think. Almost as well as you.I must be a rare find. Don’t General I ze j a nos. Its beneath your mind. Still, I doubt if you’d have compassion for me in any scenario. I don’t have elephant issue”d. I have amigdyl a-thinking, stupid, ignorant people issues.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 11, 2016 at 7:59 pm #

      One of these things is not like the other: dog, horse, car, cat, human. Which is it? To solve it you must generalize what all the others have in common. See how it works?

      Just for the civilized and not for noble savages? Then how could they ever know which plant was poisonous and which good to eat? Which animal was dangerous and which not? In other words, if every impression was a completely new experience, they wouldn’t survive. So they generalize: this plant looks a lot like that good one I ate last night. I’m going to take the wild but calculated leap of faith that it’s the same type or species. Species is a generalization you see.

      • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 9:55 am #

        You’re Generalization is the Ignorance that binds you.

        You cannot see that, while Generalizing.

        so you defend it.

        Just SEE!

    • I AM SULLY October 12, 2016 at 3:47 am #

      Hillary is lung cancer.
      Trump is aids.

      People often survive aids, for a while …

  66. Cold N. Holefield October 11, 2016 at 3:17 pm #

    Q. Shtik said: No one likes having their homeland and culture disparaged….

    Except Peter wasn’t disparaging your culture or your homeland. He referred to Generalities like the “American Public” or “Poor (Middle Class) White Trash.”

    Gormless is a Britishism, Q, Shtik, so if you’re going to use it in future, be sure to be fair & equitable in the use of your Britishisms and find the time to use “whilst” as well.

    Whilst you’re spineless, Q. Shtik, no one could ever accuse you of being gormless.

    That’s the best compliment I can muster for the likes of you, so consider yourself lucky you got one at all.

    Who wants to make a bet barb is not female? The “fish” comment gave it away if it wasn’t already obvious she’s a fellow sock puppet provocateur.

    • dannyboy October 11, 2016 at 4:21 pm #

      what’s “fish” mean in the CFN Commenters codebook?

      you gotta’ secret initiation?

      does it involve a lobotomy?

      • elysianfield October 11, 2016 at 5:57 pm #

        “you gotta’ secret initiation?”

        Some of us do….

        brit milah

        • dannyboy October 11, 2016 at 6:26 pm #

          Hate to bring this up in the current atmosphere…

          …but, women love it!

          • Janos Skorenzy October 11, 2016 at 8:02 pm #

            Circumcision is a terror initiation that makes little boys less trusting and more ruthless. To cap off the strangeness, the Rabbi uses his teeth at one point.

          • elysianfield October 11, 2016 at 11:07 pm #

            “the Rabbi uses his teeth at one point”

            Janos, do I have to repeat the old joke? “They work for tips,…”

          • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 9:56 am #

            j & e

            you focus on this ‘tip’

            like a coupla’ schmucks

  67. Cold N. Holefield October 11, 2016 at 4:27 pm #

    Hey Peter Harris, for an example of gormless, besides the NASCAR Fans, take a look at CNN right now. Hillary Clinton & Al Gore are giving a Stump Speech about Climate Change in Miami and what Hillary plans on doing about it. Look at the audience cheering behind them as Hillary & Al lie through their teeth. That is the epitome of gormless, and that audience is about as diversified as you can get and they are part of the “American Public” to which you refer. A large part of it, as a matter of fact — especially in Miami which could hardly be characterized as a haunt for Poor White Trash. Is it compassionate to say a retarded person deserves to have their lunch money stolen? I don’t think it is — and yet that’s precisely what’s going on with that speech. Hillary & Al are reaching into the pockets of the audience’s current and future progeny and taking everything except their gormlessness.

    Hillary lied when she said Hurricane Mathew wouldn’t have been as destructive had it not been for Climate Change. That is incontrovertible speculation. There is no evidence, and no the science has not been settled, that rising CO2 leads to Climate Change let alone a change in the frequency and intensity of Tropical Storms and/or Hurricanes.

    This speech is a precursor to Carbon Trading (which is a Carbon Tax that will paid for by The Little People) that will be implemented full force during her eight years as POTUS. It’s yet another way for the Ridiculously Wealthy to attain even more wealth as they drive the rest of the planet into deeper poverty. They come as Saviors to Pick Your Gormless Pockets.

    She was fearmongering by telling the residents of Miami that in 100 years Florida will be underwater. Okay, if that’s so Hillary, why do you support Open Borders where The World can immigrate to America and settle in Florida so the population triples or quadruples in that time span? Is it because Moloch wants as many people to drown as possible when that time comes so its instructions to you are to pack Florida like a Cattle Car on its way to the Gas Chambers?

    Unbelievable!!! Not really, though. It’s to be expected. Gormless. Yeah, it’s an excellent word that has gone out of style. It’s time to take it off the shelf, dust it off and use it with much more frequency, although, after today, I’ll probably forget about it and never use it again.

  68. Cold N. Holefield October 11, 2016 at 4:32 pm #

    Can you imagine Q. Shtik in Erich Mielke’s Stasi-Dominated East Berlin telling everyone they’re paranoid? I can — and I’m quite certain there were people at that time like Q. Shtik assuring everyone no one was spying on them. Those people either worked for Erich Mielke or they were gormless.

  69. barbisbest October 11, 2016 at 5:34 pm #

    Much more to a person than what they look like mr. Ja nos. Or ms. Ja nos. Much more.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 11, 2016 at 8:08 pm #

      And that “much more” is reflected on their countenance or mien. As Mohammad said, beware the eye of the believer. No one can hide their inner state from the Eye of such a one. Thank God we are compassionate. If we were not, the darkness of Humanity would overwhelm us.

      Is it not not insignificant that a diamond is formed from Carbon, subjected to tremendous pressure? Have you done so? Subjected your dirty carboniferous lower nature to the pressure from Above, the Weight of Glory? If you have, I would see it in a heart beat.

      • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 9:58 am #

        “If you have, I would see it in a heart beat.”

        now i’ve heard everything!

  70. Frankiti October 11, 2016 at 6:06 pm #

    We have now, one candidate that can destroy “both” parties, the janus, the donklephants.

    Obliterate them.

    The GOP is already dead. As it should have been a Mitt or McCrazy ago.

    A Trump election will destroy a corrupt democratic party that rigged the game for a plutocrat of the lowest order. That further neutered a geriatric political eunuch from Vermont, and educated AKA robbed an entire generation of optimistic youth that actually put faith in the alleged democratic system.

    He will destroy the media-democratic party nexus.

    He will destroy the Citizens United outcome.

    He will destroy the financier’s revolving door into and out of both sectors.

    He might bring it all to a grinding halt, or a nosedive.

    And this is the absolute best possible outcome.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 11, 2016 at 8:13 pm #

      Yes, Donkey Kong! Did not Mumford quote Burkhardt who warned of the rise of the “Terrible Simplifiers”? So many qualified men could have unmasked the Witch – yet none had the courage until now. On the Republican side, so many men could have put together his package of Jobs, Borders, and Trade Deals in service of America First. It’s not rocket science – simply what the educated have been calling for and the uneducated needing and yearning for, for decades. Yet no Republican could get it together to do so. A few like Tancredo got one aspect right.

      • Frankiti October 11, 2016 at 8:28 pm #

        Let us not forget, most importantly, he will destroy the Clinton Machine.

        Once and for all.

        • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 9:59 am #

          good luck with that

          and i hope you have a contingency plan

      • Frankiti October 11, 2016 at 8:41 pm #

        “The state incurs debts for politics, war, and other higher causes and ‘progress’…. The assumption is that the future will honor this relationship in perpetuity. The state has learned from the merchants and industrialists how to exploit credit; it defies the nation ever to let it go into bankruptcy. Alongside all swindlers the state now stands there as swindler-in-chief”

    • Elrond Hubbard October 12, 2016 at 11:17 am #

      He will destroy this, he will destroy that. He will ring in the Millennium and wreak terrible vengeance on his enemies. Do we all get our virginity back too?

      It’s all nonsense and people seeing what they want to see. Trump insists he has a secret plan to defeat ISIS, while also building his campaign on criticizing Clinton for voting for the Iraq war. So which is it, does he want more war in the Middle East or less? The answer is, whatever serves his purposes in the moment. There is no center to the man, no knowing what he will actually do once in office.

      As for taking on the financial industry, undoing Citizens United, etc., more nonsense. Trump is a billionaire opportunist whose first and last interest is serving himself. He discovered early in the Republican primaries how to gain popularity by saying whatever got him cheers, riding the wave of applause to the nomination. If he actually gets into office he’ll face the same well-financed wall of incentives and disincentives as any president. This billionaire narcissist will not take on other billionaires — not if there is the slightest cost to himself.

      Step cheering for the destruction of your country. However bad things may get, nihilism always makes them worse.

      • beantownbill. October 12, 2016 at 1:08 pm #

        Nixon had a secret plan to end the Vietnam War when he was running for president in 1968. We were finally run out of that country in 1974. You think we should trust that Trump has a real plan?

        • Elrond Hubbard October 12, 2016 at 2:21 pm #

          Nixon’s ‘secret plan’ was an electoral ruse to use the war to defeat the Democrats. The Nixon campaign made back-door contact with the south Vietnamese government to reject a peace plan that was on the table at that time and wait for a better one under Nixon. Once in office, Nixon and Kissinger bombed southeast Asia to the point of insanity and still lost.

          tl;dr – Politicians’ loudly-declared ‘secret plans’ are bullshit until proven otherwise. This was never more true than in Trump’s case.

      • Frankiti October 13, 2016 at 12:19 am #

        Imbecile cannuck! The country is already destroyed, the nation does not exist.

        What is a billionaire opportunist? He has his billions. Dummy.
        Me thinks the poorer one wants MORE, or IT ALL.

        Clinton wants billions of $ and a country as her strap-on.

        You’re not hearing cheering for the destruction, it is the incantation of the phoenix.

  71. seawolf77 October 11, 2016 at 8:02 pm #

    “I thought I saw a pu**ycat?” Tweety Bird

  72. wpa_ccc October 11, 2016 at 10:33 pm #

    “This is nothing but bull—-t. Dicks dorks, dongs, nothing is off limits.” — Stelmosfire

    DONALD was wearing a microphone and was not in a locker room. He publicly said he would bang his daughter.

    Have you ever heard anyone say of an underage daughter: “my daughter is a piece of ass and I’d bang her” Bill never said that about Chelsea.

    I have never heard anyone in a locker room say that or outside a locker room, or anywhere else, by anyone, ever.

    It is not bullshit. Whiny ass DONALD is in a league of his own publicly saying several times, over airwaves, that he wants to bang his daughter.

    • elysianfield October 11, 2016 at 11:30 pm #

      “Have you ever heard anyone say of an underage daughter: “my daughter is a piece of ass and I’d bang her” Bill never said that about Chelsea.

      I have never heard anyone in a locker room say that or outside a locker room, or anywhere else, by anyone, ever.”

      Your statement is so out of touch with reality that it proves your claim as a woman. Men know that in all males, there is a 16 year old hiding just under the adult veneer. It’s the BillClintonAnthonyWeinerBillCosby disease. I don’t mean to say that women are out of touch with reality, but, rather, that they have no idea what a male thinks/says/does in the presence of other 16 year olds (of any age). Don’t argue with me…this is not a theory, but an absolute.

      Dick jokes, fart jokes, jokes about bodily functions…hardly a woman’s venue. Permit me an example;

      Guy goes into his doctors office for a yearly exam. At the end of the exam, the doctor tells the patient to drop his pants for a prostate exam…they guy does so, and the Doctor says…”you know, it is not unusual to achieve an erection during this procedure”…the guy says to the doctor, “I don’t have an erection…”, and the doctor replies…”yes, but I do”. Hilarious…it’s a guy thing.

      • wpa_ccc October 11, 2016 at 11:36 pm #

        Do you have a daughter? Did you ever publically say over airwaves of your underage daughter “she is a piece of ass and I’d bang her?”

        Know of anyone, anywhere, at any time who has said that of their young daughter, on or off mic?

      • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 10:02 am #

        “Men know that in all males, there is a 16 year old hiding just under the adult veneer… Don’t argue with me…this is not a theory, but an absolute.”

        i get deeper insight into the commenters with each moment.

        • elysianfield October 12, 2016 at 4:36 pm #

          “i get deeper insight into the commenters with each moment.”


          The extent and fragility of your ego is in inverse proportion to your knowledge of self.

  73. wpa_ccc October 11, 2016 at 10:58 pm #


    “Unshackled” Trump losing in Arizona and Georgia, according to Republican polling.

    Even Obama couldn’t win there. Trump is toast.

    • Q. Shtik October 11, 2016 at 11:49 pm #

      How wide do the numbers have to get before you stop expending this inordinate amount of time and energy on defeating Trump? 70-20?

      I get the impression you Libs are still scared shitless Trump is going to come back like in the Terminator.

  74. wpa_ccc October 11, 2016 at 11:31 pm #

    More than 500000 customers still do not have electricity in North Carolina. Some of my family still don’t have power.

    Hurricane Matthew has killed 1,027 people.

  75. malthuss October 11, 2016 at 11:41 pm #

    Intelligent talk about resource depletion and the possible future of Europe,


  76. Q. Shtik October 12, 2016 at 12:09 am #

    Monday, 10/10, DOW up 89. Was this because Hillary is winning?

    Tuesday, 10/11, DOW down 200. Was this because Hillary is winning?

    • malthuss October 12, 2016 at 12:20 am #

      When DJIA goes down 15,000, that will be closer to a long term average.

      • Q. Shtik October 12, 2016 at 1:01 am #

        I think you mean down to 15,000.

        • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 6:36 am #

          No, he meant down 15,000. What does it matter if the majority of people don’t have any skin in that Game? People should be cheering if the Stock Market plunged to zero. It means the Owners of the World no longer own the World, but they could still blow it up as part of their Samson Option, I suppose. If THEY can’t own it, no one can.

          • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 10:05 am #

            “if the Stock Market plunged to zero. It means the Owners of the World no longer own the World”

            please revise this statement.

            if shareholders own shares currently trading at zero, they still own the company; it’s just that can’t get money for transferring their ownership at that time.

            so don’t worry about me

          • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 10:16 am #

            I don’t worry about you — I loathe you. You should worry about me though and what I represent. Ken Langone does and said as much on Neil Cavuto’s show yesterday. You would be well-advised to humble yourself real quick-like, smartass.

          • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 10:22 am #


            chill out

            better for your health

            see, i do care about you

          • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 10:37 am #

            My health is just fine, Home Slice, but your WEALTH? Let’s just say — it’s in Jeopardy. Use it or lose it and investing in the Stock Market is not using it, it’s using & exploiting people. Invest your wealth in people, REAL PEOPLE, and maybe when the time comes, it can be credited against your sentence. Same goes for your friends, especially Michael Corasaniti.

          • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 12:10 pm #


            Most investment is in assets which produce wealth. The other end of your rent and other liabilities.

            Stocks are a place to park excess profits between those investments.

            got the picture?

          • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 12:43 pm #

            Yeah, right, whatever. You can get away with telling your students that and they’ll compliantly believe it because they have to if they want the grade, but it doesn’t wash with me. I know better. Been there. I believed it once. Never Again.

          • Frankiti October 13, 2016 at 12:13 am #

            Cold, again, gracias a ti… keeping the Doucher Busy, the Danny baggy, you know what I mean…

            abrazos fuertes…

          • malthuss October 16, 2016 at 12:36 pm #

            Yes, you are right.

        • malthuss October 16, 2016 at 12:36 pm #


  77. wpa_ccc October 12, 2016 at 12:23 am #

    Chris Christie one step closer to being imprisoned. Turns out Christie and one of his senior aides talked about the plan to close lanes to the George Washington Bridge before the political revenge scheme was implemented, and then again as it was unfolding.

    Things are looking bad for Christie and for the food budget of whatever state Christie will be eating at during his jail term.

    • Q. Shtik October 12, 2016 at 12:49 am #

      Things are looking bad for Christie and for the food budget of whatever state Christie will be eating at during his jail term.


      Now that’s what I like………a sense of humor.

    • S M Tenneshaw October 12, 2016 at 2:12 am #

      Not if it’s a private prison. They’ll stick an apple in his mouth and have a big ol’ pork roast.

  78. I AM SULLY October 12, 2016 at 3:44 am #

    Not a nation of clowns? – http://votefreckles.com

  79. FincaInTheMountains October 12, 2016 at 5:32 am #

    A Spell to call back Roosevelt America

    Favorite Roosevelt’s song:

    Favorite Roosevelt’s movie:

  80. Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2016 at 5:32 am #


    She judged and now she is judged. She fell into the Master’s Trap and now enclosed by the Tholian Web. As Cotton Mather said, “The Wheels of Justice grind exceedingly slow but exceedingly fine.” Look at Bill’s face: sometimes Hell begins in this world. Ditto Bernie’s at the Convention.

    • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 10:09 am #

      still jealous of Clinton’s and Sanders’ accomplishments. trying to bring them down to your level?

      find Hell a lonely place?

      get straight starting now

      • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2016 at 4:26 pm #

        Accomplishments? Is that what you call what she does? Doing nothing is preferable to doing evil as Hippocrates said.

        You sound like a supporter of the shameful and shameless one.

  81. Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 6:32 am #

    Q. Shtik said: Tuesday, 10/11, DOW down 200. Was this because Hillary is winning?

    When the hell will you learn you f*c*i*g Assclown that the DJIA is a meaningless indicator of the economy? Everyone knows the more meaningful measure is the Baltic Dried Fruit Index. Jeez. Talk about what gives meaning to peoples’ lives — I don’t know what you would do with yourself if you weren’t myopically & obsessively analyzing the vicissitudes of the Stock Market. You treat it as though it’s a deck of Tarot Cards.

    • JimInFlorida October 12, 2016 at 7:26 am #

      Rookie…., the Dow is a PSYCHOLOGICAL TOTEM. That gives it greater power than the Baltic Dry Index. The container ships can all be sunk but, if the Dow is good, then We Teh Sheep are at rest.

      Superstition is alive and well. Pray to Wall Street to fight the darkening of the sky and cause the Sun to come out again!

      • wpa_ccc October 12, 2016 at 9:55 am #

        Rookie. Not just psychological. A majority have skin in the game.
        Fifty-five percent of Americans are invested in the stock market. 70% of them lost money in 2015.

        • JimInFlorida October 12, 2016 at 2:48 pm #

          As always wpa, you deliberately misrepresent things. Yes, 55% of Americans are invested in the stock market but, only as a desperate measure to compensate for the lack of deposit interest in risk-free savings accounts. It is NOT the real physical economy but, the Casino where our futures are gambled in the hopes of a payoff.

          The Sheep are grazing in toxic pastures of “investment” because Clintonomics destroyed the reward for savings in the bank. The whole concept of “investment” is completely divorced from when money was actually loaned towards production; for the purpose of collecting reliable and regular dividends from those loans.

          It’s money chasing money and nothing worthwhile is accomplished. THAT’S why the Dow is a psychological totem and not the true measure of anything. We hope and pray that Wall Street can steal, kill, and destroy enough to keep our miserable “investments” intact and maybe make headway.

          I completely understood Cold N’s Baltic Dry Index and made a harmless snark. You, wpa, just showed that you don’t get it.

  82. Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 8:12 am #

    It should be obvious to everyone with more than a brainstem at this point that Trump is a Trojan Horse delivering the nomination to his good friends The Clintons. He has destroyed the Republican Party in the meantime ensuring we have One Party Rule in these perilous times. The two parties were always two sides of the same coin, but now it’s time to toss the coin and replace it with a boot on your neck. And you Rubes fell for it. Too Funny. The joke, once again, is on you. It’s too easy — like taking candy from babies or pelting toddlers with rocks as they play in their playpens. This is why Karl Rove is not concerned and is enjoying it — he knows his vested interests are secured. Your vested interests? You don’t have any and never will, so it’s not even a consideration. You’re being fattened up as a sacrifice to Moloch like steroid & antibiotic infused chickens smashed together in an overcrowded chicken coop. How Bohemian of them.

    • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 8:25 am #

      I’m obviously not the only one to think this as the following article indicates. Note, however, that the linked article below is from 2011. Trump has had nearly six years to perfect himself as a Trojan Horse. Not to worry — after he accomplishes his mission of destroying the Republican Party and ushering in an era of In-Your-Face-Boot-On-Your-Neck One Party Rule he will then demand you watch all the successful Reality Show Spinoffs he’ll be starring in resulting from his Trojan Horse Schtick and The People will watch with their Doritos and Diet Coke in hand and the boot on their necks like little kids watching Cars for the first time. Idiocracy, like Wall-E, is a Documentary and has arrived.

      The Trojan Trump?

    • FincaInTheMountains October 12, 2016 at 12:00 pm #

      That’s a conspiracy theory, Cold.

      I state this as a certified specialist in horns and hooves.

    • JimInFlorida October 12, 2016 at 3:07 pm #

      As I’ve always said, We Teh Slaves may vote for the propaganda we like. We can no more vote directly for POTUS than Joe Sixpack can vote for the CEO of GE or Apple or any other corporation. Even our Congress and Senate “reps” DO NOT REPRESENT US. They represent The Corporation TO US. Top down; not us to them.

      The “UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INC.” is a semi-private C*O*R*P*O*R*A*T*I*O*N and resides in a foreign city-state called, Washington DC. We haven’t been the organic union of the several States since 1861. The purpose of a Corporation is to make money for its shareholders. Not ONE of We Teh Slaves is a shareholder. We are even less than subjects before the Federal Government.

      Therefore, we cannot vote for POTUS because we are DEJURE SLAVES, albeit with many material privileges. BTW, before GW Bush, we were dejure SERFS but, I digress…

      We cannot own property. Not even your car is yours. However, our relative material comforts enable us to conform to the demands of The Matrix. Our purpose is to consume on debt. We are free to eat what we like at McDonalds, watch what we like on TV, rant on CFN, and buy what we like at Wal-Mart.

      But, your lack of RIGHTS will be fully visible when the Feds take notice of you for any reason! To function in The Matrix, you must surrender your rights and sign contracts to gain access.

  83. Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 10:11 am #

    wpa said: Rookie. Not just psychological. A majority have skin in the game. Fifty-five percent of Americans are invested in the stock market. 70% of them lost money in 2015.

    Rookie. The Wealthiest 5% own 70% of the Stock Market. Considering that, it’s a safe assumption the Wealthiest 10% own ~ 90% of the Stock Market, so, once again, you are a Deceiver. The Wealthiest Americans, i.e. the ones who OWN the Wealth of the Nation, are the ONLY ones with a MATERIAL vested interest in the Stock Market. The Ownership Society Reagan & Clinton touted never came to fruition because it was never intended to come to fruition — it was always Lip Service from two sides of the same Phony Coin.

  84. wpa_ccc October 12, 2016 at 10:22 am #

    “You don’t have to be a husband or a father to hear what we heard just a few days ago and say, ‘That’s not right,’” Obama said. “You just have to be a decent human being to say that’s not right.”

    Earlier Tuesday, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said Obama considers Trump’s remarks “repugnant” and agrees with Vice President Joe Biden’s assessment that Trump was referencing sexual assault.

    Trump, meanwhile, has brushed off his comments as “locker room talk” as Trump’s support plummeted among Republicans, conservatives, Mormons, and Protestant evangelicals who do not approve of Trump’s history of sexual assault, marital rape, and statutory rape. Nor do they approve of Trump’s bragging about it after the fact.

    • sprawlcapital October 12, 2016 at 2:16 pm #

      White House press secretary Josh Earnest wears a earpiece. While standing at the podium answering questions from reporters, he takes long pauses to listen to the voice in his earpiece telling him what to say next. I’m 99.9% certain of this. It’s so obvious.

      I think Joshey’s Boss does the same thing.

      • sprawlcapital October 12, 2016 at 2:18 pm #

        AN earpiece.

        Darn, I wish there was some time to edit after we hit submit.

        • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 2:35 pm #

          You have to laugh at this, if it is indeed true. I mean, who or what is feeding him the answers if he doesn’t know them himself? A Software Program? Maybe. It has to be, otherwise, the person feeding him the answers would be the Press Secretary. It’s not like these people have to look aesthetically pleasing anymore. Look at Hillary. She’s a Sight For Sore Eyes and yet she’s going to be the next POTUS. So, what gives? I guess we aren’t ready for HAL 9000 to step up to the podium just yet. Another ten years, maybe, and in the meantime we have to continue to look at these Polished Turds that are merely Regurgitating Mindless Meat Sacks serving as a veil between us and our Digital Destiny.

  85. Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 11:17 am #

    Yes, Occam’s Razor. The Stasi utilized the appeal to Occam’s Razor quite often, as in always, I would imagine.

    I suppose the fraudulent bill we received this week from the Anesthesiologist for my son’s knee operation is Occam’s Razor too, even though it was only my son who has been targeted by this fraud. It’s a pretty big deal. The Information Systems of the various physicians involved in the procedure have been breached & compromised, and yet my son, or we his parents actually, are the only ones to have received any fraudulent invoices. My wife was astute enough not to pay it or provide any credit card information and instead called the Anesthesiologist’s office only to find out that the invoice is a fake. Their internal investigation is now underway, their Risk Management Department has been engaged as well as LE & their Attorneys who will be contacting us throughout the week for additional information. My guess is they will never find the culprit because the culprit is the Intelligence Services, aka the American Stasi. If it was a True Fraud by common criminals, many patients would have received fraudulent invoices, but we’re the only one. We were specifically targeted by these Rogue Nutjobs that are paid with your tax dollars and via their Black Budget Operations to include the sale of Heroin and proceeds from Human Sex Trafficking.

    • wpa_ccc October 12, 2016 at 11:50 am #

      Alien extraterrestrials have their eye on you. The Flying Spaghetti Monster told me. Your wife is involved but was instructed to blow the whistle so as not to blow her cover.

      • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 12:02 pm #

        I think you know who it is, wpa, if it’s not you & your colleagues. I suspect it’s the same Goons who shut down Jim’s site a couple of months ago with their DDoS attack and the same Goons trying to do the same thing to douchebag Renner.


        • Q. Shtik October 12, 2016 at 12:42 pm #

          Mark Twain said a good pool player is the result of a misspent youth, but was that youth really misspent?

          If the MM Mystery gives meaning to your life who am I to say Nay?

          • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 12:50 pm #

            It’s very difficult, nay impossible, conversing with a numbskull who thinks Mischief Night is still relevant. You are simply in no position to judge anything since you are psychically still back in Collingswood, New Jersey circa the 1940’s & 50’s.

          • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 12:51 pm #

            And, why are you responding on behalf of wpa? Maybe because you are wpa. The two of you are too much alike. Fucking Sandbagger.

        • malthuss October 12, 2016 at 2:34 pm #

          Your posts about Stasi leave me wondering whats going on.

          Fake bills are common. All patients do not get them.

          • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 2:42 pm #

            Don’t you have a lynching to attend? You better hurry up and pick up your robe/bed sheet at the dry cleaners before they close. Don’t concern yourself with such trivial matters when there are crosses and Jews to burn.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2016 at 4:29 pm #

            Only the Great Cold can say anything in favor of the White Race. Anyone else who does is just scum in his book. An utter egotist, who tries to be both against the system and part of it simultaneously.

  86. wpa_ccc October 12, 2016 at 11:44 am #

    The size of Hillary’s lead over Trump is more proof of the failure of the minor regional player to influence the US elections. Putin FAIL.

  87. Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 11:59 am #

    dannyboy & friends having a great time whilst giving back to the global community. Can these Crooks rock it, or what?


    FYI, “altso” stands for A Leg To Stand On. It’s a charitable event set up to help the victims of drone strikes — the very drones made by the drone companies they own. Isn’t That Special!!!!

    • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 12:13 pm #

      you know Cold

      i would never make up a lie that you own drones

      but then i don’t need to because your comments alone are so damning.

      • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 12:31 pm #

        Whatever. If you or your friends own stock in any of these companies, you are responsible for the atrocities.


        Are you going to sit there & tell me no one at that Ridiculous Rocktoberfest owns stock in any of the listed companies? I’ll tell you right now, the majority of them do. So no, it’s not a lie, and my comments aren’t damning, they’re empowering & liberating for those who don’t have a voice and/or are too frightened to speak out & up.

        • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 12:54 pm #


          You wrote: “dannyboy &…”

          i pointed that out to be a lie

          now you double-down to say somebody must be doing that

          but, i remind you that does not include me


          why not just stop and admit it?

          you could be better

          • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 1:19 pm #

            How about you quit bragging about being wealthy. If you’re wealthy, the degree of your complicity is substantial. That’s not a lie — it’s a fact.

          • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 1:32 pm #


            Here’s a “how-about”

            How about spending less time here and more time exerting yourself to get money. I know I would, if i didn’t have it.

          • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 2:13 pm #

            dannyboy, where is your blog? That’s right, you don’t have one because you’re a Lying Troll and Lying Trolls don’t have blogs, they comment at those who do have blogs.

            I don’t think you’re really wealthy, dannyboy. I don’t think you’re the person you say you are at all. If you are, prove it. Otherwise, you’re whatever I want you to be.

          • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 5:19 pm #


            Nothing is changing then.

            Just more delusions

            and their pain

          • Frankiti October 13, 2016 at 12:11 am #

            Dear Cold,

            Thank you for keeping the retard busy, er, I mean the D Bag… sincerely

  88. Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 12:37 pm #

    The Donald is right, only if you’re rich & famous, like dannyboy, do you get to do whatever you want to women. If the Central Park Five were rich & famous and not Black & Poor, The Donald would have been clamoring for their immediate release and would have met with them and patted them on the backside and told them “way to grab that pussy, fellas!!” Instead, even though they’ve been proven innocent of the charges after first being convicted on Trumped-Up charges, Trump calls for the Death Penalty to be reinstated so they can be executed immediately.


    • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 12:56 pm #

      “The Donald is right, only if you’re rich & famous, like dannyboy, do you get to do whatever you want to women.”


      females have loved me from the time i was young and broke


      • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 1:24 pm #

        I have no idea whether “females” or “women” have loved me or not and I don’t really care. I’m older & broke and I think my wife loves me, but of course, one never knows. Nah, I know, she loves me despite me having no money and no career and no prospects. Try that with your wife, if you have one, and see how much she loves you then or any woman. That’s the True Test. Lose EVERYTHING. Forego it all and see if those you thought loved you still love you. I’m willing to bet you won’t be as loved as you think you will or as much as you think you’re loved now.

        • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 1:35 pm #

          “That’s the True Test. Lose EVERYTHING.?

          this is your Rationalization? Make your wife suffer and see if she can still hang-in without some comfort?

          I would never treat ANY woman so disrespectfully.

          I made money to please my wife. I wanted to provide well for her AND my children. They appreciate it.

          They don’t suffer it.

          • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 2:08 pm #

            You provided nothing but a crutch. They love you for your money, that is all. It’s not True Love, if there is such a thing. You know you’re not adequate otherwise. Money is the only way people will love you when it’s not love at all — only the feigning of it. So, you do whatever it takes, including murder if that’s what it takes, to have money. And then you make everyone around you beholden to you by playing Sugar Daddy with your ill-gotten gains. Not me, I won’t do that to those I love. They are learning to stand on their own two feet without a Sugar Daddy to cheat them to the front of the line like you do with your children and your wife.

          • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 2:26 pm #

            dannyboy, if he’s to be believed and I doubt he should be believed, is creating more Donny Trumps just like Fred. Hey dannyboy, does your home have all the latest bells & whistles just like Fred Trump’s palace in Queens? How many times have you bailed your children out of jail via your connections? Have they been to Military School? Finishing School?

            My brother-in-law’s best friends are the wealthiest people in a notable Deep South Port City and their progeny, let alone them, live like Queens since they’re all women now. They are supported by their parents and the matriarch of the family, their grandmother. Their living expenses alone not to mention any “luxuries” above and beyond that are ~$300k per year and they don’t have any children of their own yet. They live in Manhattan. Spoiled Brats. College Educated but none of them do anything that requires a college education except spend ludicrous amounts of money while people starve and go homeless.

            This same wealthy family, thee wealthiest in a certain notable Deep South Port City, would never deign to invest in a business my wife & I would like to own and operate together, but they’ve given gobs of dough to the State of Israel. The wealthy and their money — they don’t ever really give it away or invest in others — they grow it by taking it from The Little People.

          • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 2:29 pm #

            best rationale for failure i have ever read

          • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 2:38 pm #

            That’s right, donnyboy, if The Donald is an example of success or you are for that matter, then I’m proud to be a failure. Look at what all of your success has brought upon us? A World on the verge of Total Annihilation.

          • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 5:20 pm #

            you would have nothing on your own

            a little gratitude might help

        • Buck Stud October 14, 2016 at 4:02 pm #

          Perhaps it’s time to embrace the paintbrush and easel: Outdoors of course and with feet wet in snow.

          Van Gogh did:


  89. pequiste October 12, 2016 at 2:59 pm #

    Rather than participate in the heap-big egotist & narcissistic food fight currently being engaged in by Cold (look-at-me Jim Kunstler gave me a gold star) N. Holefield) and dannyboy (That arrogant, so-much-better-than yoo Pluticrat Heeb Noo Yawka, )
    how about we make dibs on the pieces parts of the elephant that is the central theme of the Clusterfuck Nation missive.

    I say JHK gets 80% of the tusks for a nice set of pistol grips for the Colt 1911 he has secretly tucked under his bed for when things get a little rough, and for the piano keys I think he tickles on occasion. The current cultural environment in America goes best with some rinky-dink piano music like what used to be played in saloons and whorehouses of the old West.

    Janos gets a couple of inches of ivory only, for the horns he will fashion – cuckold horns – the kind he is fond of bestowing on liberals and faux conservatives alike, as a nice Halloween gift: come as you really are because that is what is realy scarey.

    wpa-ccc gets the full contents of the elephants intestinal tract reflective of his/her/its participation at CFN and the rest of quotidian reality.

    Q-Shtick gets one leg of the venerable diseased elephant to turn into a telephone table.

    Now who else is deserving of a piece? Frankiti? Volodya? Capt Spaulding? BarbisBest? BerylofOyl?…..all CFNers are eligible for a piece – for curtains, gloves, boots and of course steaks. However don’t let out host JIm K know. INstead let the wonderful folks at the RNC know because they are going to get the vile corpse after the necropsy which will occur Nov. 9.

    • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 4:10 pm #

      You seem sore. The Donald didn’t grab your pussy today? Sorry about that. He’s a busy man — so many pussies to grab, so little time. Maybe, while you wait for your grab, you can make yourself look good for him by getting yourself buff at the gym while you watch Fox News on the telly. Stick to the Stairmaster — you don’t want to strain yourself too much.

    • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 5:22 pm #

      “That arrogant, so-much-better-than yoo Pluticrat Heeb Noo Yawka”

      and proud of it

      remember pride?

      • elysianfield October 12, 2016 at 11:52 pm #

        “remember pride?”

        Yeah, I heard it comes before the fall….

        • dannyboy October 16, 2016 at 4:01 pm #


          try having your own ideas

  90. Q. Shtik October 12, 2016 at 3:04 pm #

    1. the more meaningful measure is the Baltic Dried Fruit Index……..

    2. I don’t know what you would do with yourself if you weren’t myopically & obsessively analyzing the vicissitudes of the Stock Market…….. – Cold


    1. It’s the Baltic Dried Fruitloop Index.

    2. Me neither.

    • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 4:12 pm #

      That would be redundant. Fruitloops are inherently dry. Let’s just keep it at Dried Fruit Index. Must you change everything you freaking Sandbagger? Don’t you have another pyramid to build in your back yard? Maybe you can build one the size of a house and use slave labor this time like or levitation like the Egyptians did so long ago.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2016 at 4:32 pm #

      You are a great Cold scholar. What is the MM mystery?

      • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 4:38 pm #

        It’s the Great M&M Mystery, not MM. Since it’s a Mystery, no one knows what happened and what it’s about. Paint you own canvas.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2016 at 4:48 pm #

          What is it though? Start with the letters – do they stand for the candy that melts in your mouth not in your hand? Do the commercials of the talking M&Ms bother you, like when they get bitten by attractive women?

  91. JimInFlorida October 12, 2016 at 3:19 pm #

    “The Elite are truly insane — I believe that at this point. They are Insane Psychopaths. In the next eight years or more, their indifference to us Pests may turn to outright Malevolence,…..”
    – Cold N.H.

    Little by little, you are all nibbling ever so gingerly around my epiphany…Infallible Truth encapsulated in a bumper sticker-style slogan:

    “Kill The Billionaires Or Billions Will Be Killed. It’s Just That Simple.”(TM)

    Since time is short, and the choice for POTUS clear, we may have to suffer The Donald while Divine Justice hunts down the the rest. A billionaire in rebellion against the Establishment may be permitted to earn a short indulgence in the Court of Heaven.

    In the end, however, even The Donald will have to choose between the American People (pre-1965 demographics) or, the TPTB.

    If Donald chooses TPTB, his soul will be snatched out of him at a most inopportune time, torn apart, and distributed among the various punishments in the Eighth Circle of Hell, as described by Dante.

  92. Q. Shtik October 12, 2016 at 3:59 pm #

    Hey Colin, I get your protest…pretty much… I really do. Even as a school kid, saluting the flag and pledging allegiance always felt a bit perfunctory if not phony, but I did it anyway. Worse yet was having to read a passage from the Bible when it was my turn. Almost everyone chose the 23rd psalm…you could hardly go wrong with the 23rd psalm. If there were any non-Christians they kept their mouths shut. People didn’t stir shit up in those days.

    I doubt kids are even ALLOWED to read from the Bible in this day and age but if they were, being older and wiser now, I would choose something really juicy and inflammatory…..like the bit about women being subservient to their husbands…..or something about burning in hell for all eternity for pulling your pud. I don’t know if that’s actually IN the Bible but it probably is.

    Remember “Hands Across America”? No? Well of course not. That was 30 years ago and you hadn’t even been conceived yet. A long chain of people held hands up and down Main St. in every burg and hamlet in the country but I just couldn’t bring myself to participate. It just seemed so phony……had nothing to do with racial injustice or anything of the sort. It was not a protest, it was a feel good opportunity. A lot of people love that sort of thing. Of course the sense of camaraderie petered out within days if not hours, and look at us now, back to being at one another’s throats.

    But, as I say, Colin, don’t stand with your hand over your heart. Take the knee as you contemplate your average annual $19 million salary for warming the bench, waiting for the starting QB to have his collar bone broken.

    But, in all seriousness, for GOD’S SAKE please get a fucking HAIRCUT. You couldn’t look more ridiculous!

    • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2016 at 4:36 pm #

      Yes, he’s a ridiculous person – just enough White blood to make him awkward, but not enough IQ to make him capable of even a veneer of sophistication.

      Society needs religion – you know this. Most people can’t live with your level of cynicism and nihilism. That you can is your strength and your undoing.

  93. FincaInTheMountains October 12, 2016 at 4:09 pm #

    The size of Hillary’s lead over Trump is more proof of the failure of the minor regional player to influence the US elections. Putin FAIL.

    Big question whether Putin would really prefer Trump to Clinton, after all, Putin may not be as sympathetic in general to US as, for instance, I am. May be he, too, would prefer to let Hillary to run US quickly to the ground as she fully intends to do.

    Putin’s main concern is to intercept the strategic initiative, like for instance he is doing with the Plutonium Ultimatum, or in battleground Syria with the new S300 complexes. And he’s succeeding, while America is busily making an ass out of itself.

  94. Elrond Hubbard October 12, 2016 at 4:35 pm #

    I’ll just leave this here…


    “‘America’s Toughest Sheriff’ … ignored court orders, lied to the court, and withheld information in a racial profiling case dating back to 2007. If convicted of a misdemeanor, [Maricopa County Sheriff Joe] Arpaio could face up to six months in jail, while a felony-level charge could force him from office.”


    • Cold N. Holefield October 12, 2016 at 4:40 pm #

      I wonder if the inmates would welcome him with open arms and treat him with the respect they did Martha Stewart when she went to jail?

      • dannyboy October 12, 2016 at 7:06 pm #

        wait a second!

        don’t you hate Martha Stewart

        because she made a lot of money

        helping people get more enjoyment out of their meals

        oh, well

        gotta’ hate her because “Look at what all of your success has brought upon us? A World on the verge of Total Annihilation.”

        (p.s. you know, cold: you can’t eat the rich)

    • Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2016 at 4:41 pm #

      Is it his fault that the invaders of a different race? Can you prove that he wouldn’t act the same if the invaders were White Canadian welfare cheats, rapists, drug dealers, and murderers?

      And of course on a deeper level, perhaps he knows that Race and Nation go together, like body and mind or soul. You know nothing of this of course (consciously at least) so you can focus on the first level of betrayal.

  95. Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2016 at 4:45 pm #

    Wiki Leaks (God bless the White Wizard Julian Assange): Hillary wants open borders of the whole Western Hemisphere – leaving the United States open to predation from Hispanic and Brazilian criminals and maffias from every Nation in South and Central America. Add to this the “special” (continual) importation of 3rd Worlders from Africa and Asia. We’re toast if she gets in and this continues.

    Still like Assange, Leftists? Or is it too much Truth for your weak stomachs?

  96. FincaInTheMountains October 12, 2016 at 4:58 pm #

    Rumors from Sandersistas

    Vatican leaked information about the interception of radio communications between the base of the Iranians in Baghdad and three hundred NATO commandos, sitting in Aleppo.

    If within 24 hours a truce will not be declared, the commandos intend to surrender and hand over the organizers of the Arab Spring with all the giblets, including the organizers of the green, cedar, lotus and purple revolutions. But most importantly, the organizers will hand over the organizers of the second orange revolution (Ukraine). This will be a great gift to Trump for his third presidential debate on October 19.

    Sandersistas reaffirm their determination to vote for Trump against Hillary and claim that there are many alike among the former followers of Sanders, already more than half.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 12, 2016 at 5:00 pm #

      “organizers will hand over the organizers” should read as
      “commandos will hand over the organizers”

  97. FincaInTheMountains October 12, 2016 at 5:19 pm #

    Russian military analysts say that the jihadists keep American military advisers hostages in Aleppo and it is the main cause of media hysteria against Russia.

    Western politicians can not convince jihadists to release advisers from Aleppo, and they can be under the strikes of the legitimate Syrian government troops and Russian Air Force. And it’s not nice.

    Cannibals are blackmailing the Western elite that support them secretly. Again Anglo Saxons lost control and instead of puppeteers turned into the puppets of Islamic extremists.

    But the blame for all that once again going to Russia. Who else?

  98. FincaInTheMountains October 12, 2016 at 5:24 pm #

    Could 300 American special forces captured by Hillary’s Islamists friends in Aleppo be a watershed moment in this election campaign?

    Or you still keep talking about body parts located below the belt?

  99. wpa_ccc October 12, 2016 at 6:22 pm #

    “wpa-ccc gets the full contents of the elephants intestinal tract” –pequiste

    Thanks! More than half of the 15 trillion gallons of sewage Americans flush annually is processed into sludge that gets spread on farmland, lawns, and home vegetable gardens. In theory, recycling poop is the perfect solution to the one truly unavoidable byproduct of human civilization.

  100. FincaInTheMountains October 12, 2016 at 7:35 pm #

    Speaking of Plutonium Ultimatum, US really should’ve contracted Russia to build that MOX plant in South Carolina.

    But then, these wasted 7 billion dollars would remain in the US budget and the plant would be processing plutonium rods for US nuclear power plants, which will soon ran out of fuel, and the theme of the Kremlin plutonium counter-sanctions not even been able to appear in the most desperate heads of super-turbo professional patriots.

    Our American friends never look for the easy way out and simple solutions: the road to the disco in the neighboring village they always navigate over the Himalayas.

    By indirect actions Kremlin will now decide how and what and at what stage will be spent not only the US defense budget, but not the small budget of the US Department of Energy. Obama/Clinton Administration dumped the entire US and Canadian uranium market into the Russian hands for unsubstantial (relatively speaking) bribes through the Clinton Foundation.

    Clintons not just sold the energy future of the United States, they sold it cheap

    Civil Defense drills with 40 million paricipants. Even with late USSR was never like this, and here we go again. Our American friends can not dig what I call the prewar strategy of nuclear ambiguity. This is where all joint operation collapsed, American control and exchange of information is fully terminated, the place of the dislocation of nuclear weapons and materials, and even phone numbers of all the participants, have changed.

    Americans themselves lost the technology to enrich uranium for nuclear power plants, South Carolina plant closed without producing a gram of fuel, free-of-charge Russian plutonium stocks are exhausted: they now secretly remove uranium from the ancient American ground rockets standing on duty, otherwise nuclear plants will stop. Nuclear bluff as a bluff with gold bullion is very profitable thing; we are not talking about measly 300%.

  101. Pucker October 12, 2016 at 8:46 pm #

    I’ve read “The Fourth Turning” in which Strauss and Howe prognosticate a catastrophic upheaval between now and 2024 from which the US will either be destroyed or emerge renewed and stronger. Of course, at 69 years of age, Hillary is….

    “Below is a list of the books Clinton requested her staff borrow from “the library” for her to browse. The list includes a book of poetry and a memoir, as well as books on the CIA, climate change, and US history.
    The Wind Blows Through the Doors of My Heart, by Deborah Digges (2010)
    The Fourth Turning: An American Prophecy—What the Cycles of History Tell Us About America’s Next Rendezvous with Destiny, by William Strauss and Neil Howe (1997)
    Who Stole The American Dream? by Hedrick Smith (2012)
    The Art of Intelligence: Lessons from a Life in the CIA’s Clandestine Service(2012), by Henry A. Crumpton
    Coming Climate Crisis? Consider the Past, Beware the Big Fix, by Claire L. Parkinson (2010)
    Tearing Down Walls: A Woman’s Triumph, by Mary Gardiner Jones (2007)”

  102. Pucker October 12, 2016 at 8:56 pm #

    Unfortunately, as the book “Generation Me” points out, Baby Boomer parents have abused their Millennial children by brainwashing them with the Cult of Self Esteem leaving them woefully unprepared for hardship. Feminism has resulted in the pussification of American male Millennials.

  103. Janos Skorenzy October 12, 2016 at 9:44 pm #

    Looks like we’re in for nasty weather. Hope you are quite prepared to die.


    Do we have a chance to avoid WW3? Yes, one – Donald Trump.

    • elysianfield October 12, 2016 at 11:55 pm #

      “Looks like we’re in for nasty weather. Hope you are quite prepared to die.”

      Indeed, there is a bad moon rising, and little Bobby Zimmerman said a hard rain’s gonna fall….

  104. wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 12:17 am #


    Trump on equal pay: “Do as good a job” as men.

    Military rape: Should be expected “when they put men and women together”

    Abortion? Should be “punished.”

    Pregnancy? An “inconvenience.”

    Wives working? “Dangerous.”

    Sexual assault: You just “grab them by the pussy”

    • stelmosfire October 13, 2016 at 10:16 am #

      WPA, I wrote yesterday about “Locker-Room Banter”. Unwarranted physical contact is never OK. I have spent years around the coffee table in both Fire and Police houses. In the early years, circa ’70-’80’s there were no women. Everything was fair game. No subjects were off the table. Except someones cooking! Them’s fightin’ words! Not right or wrong but that was the way it was. Females have infiltrated the ranks and let me tell you from experience they like to dish it out (Super Nasty) but can’t take it. Call a man a fatass and he will blow it off or face ridicule. Grow a skin for cryin’ out loud. . Call a female a fatass and she takes it to heart. TFB. I have had females give me hugs at work or a neck message and promptly told them to knock it off. Just like there is no crying in baseball there is no hugging at the Firehouse. Maybe later at the clubhouse when I saved your ass but that is acceptable. A lady on a plane can most certainly ask to change seats if she feels uncomfortable. The plane is packed with people. Is no one watching?

  105. Frankiti October 13, 2016 at 12:24 am #

    Will Chelsea’s step-brother get his due?

    Will the first-predator invite him to the easter egg roll?

    Will the insta-weiner be back in the Humador?

    Will Bernie be given extra tickets to the inauguration?

    Hillary has many unanswered questions.

  106. wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 12:29 am #


    The future of affordable (and sustainable) housing may lie with 3D printing. The World’s Advanced Saving Project (WASP) has unveiled the world’s largest delta-style 3D printer, which can build full-size buildings out of mud and clay for nearly zero cost. The massive BigDelta printer stands 12 meters tall (40 feet), and it’s nearly completed its first house at a cost of just 48 euros so far.

    Italian innovator Massimo Moretti launched WASP with the goal to “create a means for affordable fabrication of homes, and provide these means to the locals in poverty stricken areas.” WASP’s affordable housing solution combines 3D printing with biomimicry, drawing inspiration from the mud dauber wasp that constructs its home from one of the world’s oldest building materials: mud.

    WASP has come an impressively long way in a short span of time, especially considering that the company doesn’t receive any public financing. They revealed their four-meter tall BigDelta prototype last year, and now their first 3D printed home is nearly complete. The BigDelta printer builds thick walls, and it’s able to lay down 60 cm – 1 meter of material every day.

    • stelmosfire October 13, 2016 at 10:52 am #

      A 3-Dimensional Mud hut. Fine maybe in the desert. How do you grow food. MUD Bad,Clay bad , Water Good. As the the late Sam Kinison spoke about the Ethiopian famine of ’85. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKNoJ2BzSRU Cruel but true.

  107. Janos Skorenzy October 13, 2016 at 1:45 am #


    Good explanation of what happened to us – we lost ourselves in things. And since nature abhors a vacuum, other peoples who still had a sense of themselves have begun to supplant us. Obviously some Elite WASP families still believe in something – themselves as Class Tyrants. But America? Western Civilization? The White Race? Their Constituents? For them they have nothing. No doubt most are adrift as the author describes – actually believing in nonsense like Civil Rights, equality, Dr King, etc.

  108. wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 2:15 am #

    wpa–ccc to Trump: Sue the NYT and be forced to make your denials under oath, under penalty of perjury, to the parade of women you have sexually assaulted.

    Please sue the NYT, Donald, and open yourself to discovery. Cowardly criminal that you are, you don’t have the guts.

    In a defamation case it is impossible for a celebrity to prove the NYT is guilty of extreme recklessness. Trump has zero chance of prevailing. But we would learn so much more about Mr. Trump’s history of criminal sexual assault, from all the women who have been Mr. Trump’s victims who are now coming forward without fear.

    • wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 2:28 am #

      Trump’s lawyers have written a letter lacking any substantive facts to cast doubt on the New York Times story. A letter is not a lawsuit.

      Filing a lawsuit would open Trump to investigation and prosecution for his many criminal sexual assaults. Think Trump might have learned something from Bill Cosby?

  109. FincaInTheMountains October 13, 2016 at 5:27 am #

    Trump made the first step toward accusing Hillary Clinton of high treason

    TRUMP: If Clinton wins, ISIS will ‘take over this country’


    Prominent Russian politician Zhirinovsky, an ally of Putin, tells Americans: vote Trump or face nuclear war


  110. FincaInTheMountains October 13, 2016 at 5:42 am #

    In my opinion, the whole “nucular war thing” with Russia is not quite a bluff, just a demonstration of very resolute intentions to go to the end, severe psychological attack on the enemy, short of actually doing the experimental verification.

    Russia definitely will not start a war – Americans just owe us too much to let them go that easily, Americans are simply in no position to start a war with Russia – the main Anglo Saxon principle of conducting the war is “They’re same numbers as we, let’s run away!”.

    • dannyboy October 13, 2016 at 8:59 am #

      yea, Russia’s got so much, that Americans are emigrating in droves.

      no wait

      all those beautiful Russian females are coming to NYC IN DROVES

      • Janos Skorenzy October 13, 2016 at 2:59 pm #

        And Russians aren’t buzzing our plains off Montauk point either, are they? – as Mr Kunstler pointed out. But we are doing similar things to them in their backyard. NATO? North ATLANTIC Treaty Organization. What is an Atlantic organization doing a thousand miles east, deep in the heart of Eastern Europe? Causing trouble. Threatening world peace.

        • dannyboy October 13, 2016 at 5:08 pm #


          we keep the gals

  111. FincaInTheMountains October 13, 2016 at 6:00 am #

    Clintons – gotta love ‘em, using cheap lawyery tricks trying to conduct the policy of Apocalypses.

  112. Reagan October 13, 2016 at 6:31 am #

    Foolish Democrats & Liberals, letting the country be overrun by illegal aliens who bring with them diseases we had essentially eradicated. But Democrats have so few brains that they elect soulless ghouls to office to keep the flow of diseases coming into the country. Now add those diseases to the already weakened immune systems of the immoral leftists such as the author who bought into the entire “sex, drugs, rock and roll” nonsense, and one can see the beginning of what will truly destroy this nation as disease spreads like wild fire. But the Democrats who lust for power at the expense of all others could care less.

    One other note is that the author and so many on this blog have ranted about politicians and what they have done to this country, Wall Street’s corruption, etc. Trump is a non-politician and one who speaks out against Wall Street – yet the dyed-in-the-wool Democrats such as Mr. Kunstler and those on this site won’t vote for Trump. Such hypocrisy.

    • Frankiti October 13, 2016 at 9:52 am #

      I find that liberals have a tendency to be charmed by the cult of personality.
      Camelot. Celebrities. Skin-deep change.

      They also have a lack of self-confidence when it comes to developing their own process. They almost slavishly cede their beliefs to, or most often, assume those of, an “educated” “expert” on account of their inadequacy issues. Particularly if the expert’s CV includes one of the universities of preeminence.

      These are the people charmed daily by NPR ,or a documentary with a celebrity voice narration, or the Sunday NYT.

      Never questioning. Just absorbing. It’s sad and frightening.

      • seawolf77 October 13, 2016 at 1:13 pm #

        I find conservatives worship at the alter of mediocrity. W. Reagan. HW. Tricky Dick. Quayle. All of them so average they’d barely register a pulse. The more banal and turgid their rhetoric, the more attractive they are. The more vapid and juvenile their lines, the more conservatives cite their strong sense of values and common sense e.g “We fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here” or “There you go again.” Horseshit stuff like that, they’ll raise a high school cheer over it. It’s the fact they think that if someone so ordinary and common can do it, it makes them think even they can do it. They can’t. Think potatoe before you jump on that june bug genius.

        • Frankiti October 13, 2016 at 1:39 pm #

          Alter what? Sea-dolt.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 13, 2016 at 3:02 pm #

          Yeah, they’re Liberals too for the most part. Notice how the Bush Family wont support Trump. They’d prefer Hillary. It’s one corrupt system. Reagan was very compromised, allowing in millions of alien invaders.

        • Q. Shtik October 13, 2016 at 4:05 pm #

          W. Reagan. – seawolf


          first name: Wonald

  113. sprezzatura October 13, 2016 at 9:27 am #

    If all Republicans had voted in the Primaries, would Trump be the nominee?

    In other words, which of the following statements is true:

    [A] Those who voted in the primaries were a representative cross-section of Republicans. They knew Trump was objectionable (although they did not yet know how toxic), and were willing to make a bargain with the devil they thought they knew.

    [B] The Republican primaries were hijacked by a fringe minority of activists and fanatics. A more sane candidate would have been nominated if more Republicans had gotten involved.

    [C] (Insert favorite conspiracy theory here).

  114. FincaInTheMountains October 13, 2016 at 11:34 am #

    Russian Media: Russia created the first samples of weapons based on new physical principles

    Representatives of the United Instrument Corporation (DIC) announced the creation of the first samples of weapons based on new physical principles. The announcement was made on Thursday, 13 October to RIA Novosti. According to experts, the Russian defense industry tested systems that provide a directed energy impact on the avionics of aircraft, drones and precision-guided weapons.


    So, that’s what scared the crew of USS Cole.

    As you know the new is well forgotten old. In this case everything points to the Tesla’s wave gun. It seems to be true and Putin hinted this morning about this, saying that necessity is the mother of invention, and serious progress in shock armaments, well-stimulated by Hillary in the 90 and 00s by the European missile defense, really has arrived. I’m just afraid that the journalists to whom he was speaking, really stupid and can not even contemplate it.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 13, 2016 at 11:46 am #

      I guess that would make the war with US too boring and not worth the sport.

  115. beantownbill. October 13, 2016 at 11:53 am #

    Sigh. There ain’t gonna be any nuclear war with Russia. Putin isn’t insane. A nuclear exchange would destroy Russia and probably the rest of the world. Anyone with even a smidgeon of brain power has to realize that exploding hundreds of nukes would cause EMPs, destroy food-production for centuries, poison water supplies, cause world-wide meltdowns of nuclear power plants and change our climate, probably for thousands of years.

    Sure, elites probably have the wherewithal to survive underground, or even above ground, but which of them would want to live out their lives in a fancy bunker, never breathing fresh air or feeling the sun on their faces? And who would they lord over? Fellow bunker-mates and starved, sick wretches who somehow survived? And how would they rule when they can’t live outside, except for brief periods in radiation suits? No, it won’t happen by planned attack.

    Accidents or miscues could occur, kind of setting off a semi-automatic nuclear response, but we’ve been living with that possibility for almost 70 years, so what is new about that scenario to suddenly cause us nightmares?

    Really, people, stop projecting your unsubstantiated fears onto the general population, lest you create a self-fulfilling prophesy.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 13, 2016 at 11:58 am #

      I heard that Hillary has extended the quota of underage bimbos Bill will be allowed to take with him into the tax-payers funded luxury fallout shelter.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 13, 2016 at 2:54 pm #

      Why? Because our Leaders are insane with lust for power? You know, like Saddam or Kim Jong Un are supposed to be. Zhirinovksy: a but kooky by not crazy – a lot like Trump in some ways.


    • elysianfield October 13, 2016 at 4:03 pm #

      “Sigh. There ain’t gonna be any nuclear war with Russia. Putin isn’t insane. A nuclear exchange would destroy Russia and probably the rest of the world. Anyone with even a smidgeon of brain power has to realize that exploding hundreds of nukes would cause EMPs, destroy food-production for centuries, poison water supplies, cause world-wide meltdowns of nuclear power plants and change our climate, probably for thousands of years

      Bill, lest you forget….

      “General “Buck” Turgidson: Mr. President, I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on the breaks. “

  116. wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 2:08 pm #

    updated 3 hours ago, 322 polls from 42 pollsters, show Hillary leading Trump by 8 points nationwide and winning in all the “swing” states. Early voting has already started. Hillary already has the 270 electoral votes she needs.

    Let’s go back to discussing “peak oil” theory and the evidence against it.

    • dannyboy October 13, 2016 at 2:39 pm #

      “Let’s go back to discussing “peak oil” theory and the evidence against it.”

      we are Moving Forward

      now it’s Financial Collapse (that has no election date to sell-by, good for a year or more). But the commenters can’t understand, so they’ll just revert back to debating the benefits of racism.

      • malthuss October 13, 2016 at 4:05 pm #

        “Many here in the US are living in a financial fantasy-land. As you say, this can’t and won’t last forever, although many here in the US behave as if it will. A great many others are completely unaware of the true financial state of the US, so are oblivious to the need to protect what they have with hard assets.
        Reality has a way of teaching us all some pretty hard lessons. This will not be an exception. We all know that anything that is not sustainable will end. One would have to be pretty far from reality not to grasp the fact that the current system is not sustainable, so will end. The only question that most of us have is not “when” but “how”.

        The structural problems in the US economy have been papered over and patched up for a long time now. Nothing that was damaged prior to 2008 has been truly repaired. While that bought some time, that time does not seem to have been used productively or effectively. All the damage that showed us the true state of the economy in 2008 is still with us and has gotten worse with time, as big problems so often do when not addressed thoroughly and aggressively.

        The odds of a “soft landing” or other form of mild financial reset seem to shrink by the week. This leaves us with the increasing odds of a “hard landing”, which will be a terrifying, eye-opening, and impoverishing experience for a very large number of people.”

        • dannyboy October 13, 2016 at 5:17 pm #

          “Many here in the US are living in a financial fantasy-land.” malthuss

          Interesting choice of words

          given that the whole Peak Oil scare was based on using a few powerpoint slides to deny reality.

          and that this whole Trump thing was based on wild imaginings of world conspiracy, a mad-dog America, and declaration of nuclear war. Again, just the opposite of the real world.

          now, a bunch of folks with no financial experience (other than bitching about their finances) are setting out to deny that the world keeps on thru “Peak Oil”, “Political Insanity” and “Financial Whatever”

          It’s a good thing you commenters have it so correct, because you are so sure that everybody else has got it wrong.

  117. wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 2:34 pm #

    “This wasn’t just locker room banter. This was a powerful individual speaking freely and openly about sexually predatory behavior and actually bragging about kissing and groping women.”

    The first lady said she’d felt the impact of Trump’s words personally, as had other women.

    “The shameful comments about our bodies. The disrespect of our ambitions and intellect. The belief that you can do anything you want to a woman,” Michelle Obama said. “It is cruel. It is frightening. And the truth is, it hurts. It hurts.”

    “It’s like that sick, sinking feeling you get when you’re walking down the street, minding your own business, and some guy yells out vulgar words about your body. Or when you see that guy at work that stands just a little too close, stares a little too long and makes you feel uncomfortable in your own skin,” she continued. “It’s that feeling of terror and violation that too many women have felt when someone has grabbed them or forced himself on them and they’ve said no, but he didn’t listen.”

    • dannyboy October 13, 2016 at 2:40 pm #

      “Or when you see that guy at work that stands just a little too close, stares a little too long”

      ..or at a Presidential Debate

    • Q. Shtik October 13, 2016 at 3:48 pm #

      No means yes.

      Yes means anal. 😉 (tm DKE Yale)

    • elysianfield October 13, 2016 at 4:05 pm #

      “do anything you want to a woman,” Michelle Obama said. “It is cruel. It is frightening. And the truth is, it hurts. It hurts.””

      In the spirit of compromise, I would suggest you are doing it wrong….

      • dannyboy October 13, 2016 at 5:21 pm #

        I watched the CNN Film “We Will Rise” last night.

        That is what courage and strength look like.

  118. wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 2:47 pm #

    Trump is threatening to sue the women who speak about his sexual assault behavior toward them. Trump is threatening to sue newspapers who report on Trumps sexual predation. Threatening, not suing.

    I expect Trump to ACTUALLY file in court… just after he releases his tax returns.

    Trump has a history of legal intimidation. According to USA Today, Trump and his businesses have been involved in 3,500 lawsuits over the years, easily making him the most litigious presidential candidate of all time.

    • wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 2:50 pm #

      Trump previously threatened legal action against the Times after the newspaper published a bombshell account of his tax returns earlier this month.

      So far, there’s been no lawsuit.

      And even if Trump does sue, he’ll stand little chance in the courts.

    • seawolf77 October 14, 2016 at 10:20 am #

      He doesn’t have a chance. He and Bill Cosby and Bill Clinton are all in the same leaky boat.

  119. FincaInTheMountains October 13, 2016 at 2:52 pm #


    Of course I need to apologize for picking up on you; I know that it is quite useless to talk with Americans about the price that America could pay for its artistry in Ukraine and Syria. They just clap their eyes and delicately wait when you quit carry your Russian, Communist propaganda, and then return to the original topic, so if you did not say anything.

    Americans simply can not imagine that there are limits to the America military power, and even the threat of a nuclear war can not shake this confidence. According to them, Russia simply does not dare to throw a challenge to the almighty US, and when I say that Russia in its new military doctrine openly warned that in case of a threat to the State reserves the right to pre-emptive nuclear strike, their faces once again receive this bored expression – you keep on bubbling, body.

    We’re in the middle of the worst military-political crisis in the modern history, much worse than Caribbean missile crisis, and America does not even have well-defined control-and-command structure, when Pentagon two days after State Department signed a deal on Syria, sabotaged the hell out of it.

    • beantownbill. October 13, 2016 at 5:09 pm #

      Since when do words preempt action? Words are just words- until someone acts on them. If we see Russian subs 200 miles off our coast, with their nukes pointed in our direction, then I might be concerned. That’s what effectively happened in 1962 with the Cuban missile crisis: Russian missiles were pointed at the CONUS just 90 miles away. There was no war. What’s happening now is no comparison – I know, because I lived through it – and even then I wasn’t afraid.

      Yes, in a nuclear exchange (I use the word “exchange” because the action wouldn’t last long enough to be called a war), America would be destroyed, but so would Russia – you know, MAD. The US launches say, 2000 missiles and the Russian defense systems are so good that they are 99% effective. That means 20 nuclear warheads, minimum, explode over strategic areas of Russia. You think enough of the Russian governmental infrastructure would survive to be effective? I don’t think so, which is why it won’t happen.

      What’s happening now is 2 boys talking smack in the schoolyard, or 2 pro football players jabbering at each other on the field.

      • FincaInTheMountains October 13, 2016 at 7:31 pm #

        “Since when do words preempt action? Words are just words- until someone acts on them. If we see Russian subs 200 miles off our coast”

        Did you go looking? I bet your ass they’re even closer.

  120. wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 3:02 pm #

    OK, let’s talk peak oil theory. Peak oil demands we change our behavior, for example our transportation behavior. Both the prospect of global oil depletion and the urgent need to address climate change will impact the sustainability of urban passenger transport, particularly in high-mobility cities.

    So, what to do? Possible approaches for improving transportation sustainability:

    1) improve the fuel efficiency of all transport vehicles (Obama made gains here)

    2) shift to alternative sources of energy. Obama made gains here. In 2011 Solyndra received a $535 million U.S. Energy Department loan guarantee, the first recipient of a loan guarantee under Obama’s economic stimulus program, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. By 2014 the loan program had wiped out its losses, including a $528 million loss from Solyndra, and was operating in the black.

    3) increasing the occupancy rate for all transport modes

    4) shifting to more energy-efficient transport modes

    5) reducing the level of urban vehicular passenger travel. Very high urban densities would reduce vehicular travel. Decreasing the convenience of urban car travel can achieve large and equitable reductions in passenger travel.

    • Q. Shtik October 13, 2016 at 3:32 pm #


      We’re into uninvited sexual touching at the moment 🙂

      • wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 3:48 pm #

        “uninvited sexual touching” does not describe Trump’s sexual assault of numerous women, nor does it describe Trump’s rape of a 13 year old girl tied to a bed screaming “NO!” while Trump rapes her, with an eyewitness present.

        Trump will have to go to court for this rape of a 13 year old.

        “A federal judge in New York has ordered counsel for Donald Trump and the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein to appear in court along with the attorney for a woman referred to only as “Jane Doe” who alleges the Republican presidential nominee raped her when she was 13.

        Judge Ronnie Abrams has slated an initial status conference in the civil lawsuit for 16 December in a New York district court.

        The order raises the extraordinary prospect, were Trump to win the 8 November battle for the White House, of counsel for a US president-elect being called into federal court in proceedings relating to allegations of rape of an underage girl.”


        “uninvited sexual touching” Q.? How quaint. Don’t be such a euphemist, Q.

        Call sexual assault and rape what they are: criminal sexual conduct by Trump, outside of locker rooms.

    • beantownbill. October 13, 2016 at 5:16 pm #

      Yes, but don’t forget developing alternate energy sources, and increasing efficiency of existing resources, such as next generation energy storage (e.g., batteries).

  121. capt spaulding October 13, 2016 at 3:03 pm #

    This website has slowly become as insane as the current political discourse. Yesterday I listened to Rush Limbaugh talking about how Barack Obama was on a plane during his last election, and he had an erection, and was displaying it to the women reporters who were present. I couldn’t believe what it was that I was hearing, and have never heard anything like that on public media in my life. Unless I was having a psychotic experience, has anybody heard what I heard on 10-12-16, on AM radio?, or was it just me having an acid flashback? I’d prefer to think it was me, rather than accept that things have devolved as far as they have seemed to. This is turning into the craziest election I have ever experienced, and I feel that it does not bode well for the future of this country. Craziness seems to be the new normal.

    • wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 3:37 pm #

      On 12 October 2016, the web site Grabien News claimed that a 2008 video showed President Obama behaving “just as salaciously” as Trump had done in the 2005 video.

      It should also be noted that this video has been circulating since at least 2008, when it was used to smear then-Senator Obama during his first presidential campaign. The web site Obambi was one of the first to share the video along with the baseless claim that it depicted Obama with an erection. Ironically, back then Obambi posted the video along with an exhortation to vote for Hillary Clinton.


      • elysianfield October 13, 2016 at 4:11 pm #

        “On 12 October 2016, the web site Grabien News claimed that a 2008 video showed President Obama behaving “just as salaciously” as Trump had done in the 2005 video. ”

        And even after this you deny my efforts to educate you on the psyche of men? Pearls before swine….

        • wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 4:39 pm #

          You didn’t read the article. You lost when you voted for McCain. You lost when you voted for Romney. Your ability to judge the “psyche of men” is questionable.

          You are on the right track, just a little bit off with “psyche of men” … the future will be of the Goddess Psyche. Continue your goddess worship. Good start.

          • elysianfield October 13, 2016 at 7:14 pm #

            I did not vote for McCain or Romney. Ron Paul both times…once as a write-in.

            I can judge the “psyche of men”, because I am an owner/operator, and have observed others my whole life…trained observer, don’t you know….

            “Goddess Psyche” is another nest of vipers, entirely. I could possibly accept your judgment on that topic, as my information is not as nearly complete…even as you deny my experience/expertise on a subject you know little of.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 13, 2016 at 5:30 pm #

      You sound like you’re more shocked that Rush reported it as opposed to being shocked that it may have happened. Classic middle class response and exactly why we’re in the state we’re in. This kind of Victorian Respectability creates a vast zone of unconsciousness, where the Dark Forces are free to operate.

      I heard a tape of this event. It seems to have actually happened. And you are in disbelief why exactly? Obama also went to Gay clubs as a younger man apparently. And he got financial aid only available to foreigner students. He’s a mysterious figure and we will only know the Truth in decades to come – if then.

      And in a few more years, MLK’s FBI files will be released and as his widow said, people will lose all respect for him. Rather than that being allowed, I predict the files will not be released. It doesn’t really matter: aware people know he was a sex fiend and that he beat a White prostitute the evening before his death. He also made a lewd comment over the dead body of JFK – not theory, fact. It’s on tape.

      You simply have to wake up, Cap.

  122. Q. Shtik October 13, 2016 at 4:18 pm #

    This just in: Per latest poll, Trump up by 1 pt over Hillary in Ohio.

    • wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 4:33 pm #

      Q., doing what Q. does, stirring the shit with false information.

      New Ohio poll puts Hillary Clinton ahead of Donald Trump by 9 points after news of Trump’s vulgar talk


      • Q. Shtik October 13, 2016 at 5:36 pm #

        There are many different polls. The one I mentioned was reported on CNBC this afternoon and was done by the WSJ. They also had Hillary ahead by 4 pts in NC.

  123. Frankiti October 13, 2016 at 4:27 pm #

    The deep state is in a full-court press.
    The new spin on Wikileaks will be: that info isn’t reliable, it’s unvetted.

    The same deep state that this site would have you vote for.

    Chomsky has only been talking about it and its manufactured consent for a few decades now.

  124. wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 4:29 pm #

    3-D Printer Makes Houses from Local Materials

    WASP (World’s Advanced Savings Project) has always thrived on an open source business model, but their newest offering takes open source to a whole new level. The Maker Economy Starter Kit is a starter kit like no other – it’s 3D printed self-sufficiency in a box, essentially. It contains everything a person could possibly need to build, furnish and maintain a 3D printed house from locally available and recycled materials. WASP will be introducing the idea in person at Maker Faire Rome, which is taking place from October 14 to 16. A large exhibition area will house workshops and demonstrations of all of WASP’s technology and how it can be used to bring the Maker Economy concept to life.

    WASP Introduces the Maker Economy Starter Kit – Everything You Need for 3D Printed Self-Sufficiency by Clare Scott | Oct 11, 2016


    With this you can 3-D Print an entire village, wherever earth/clay is available, which is in a lot of places. 30+% of the earth’s buildings are made of clay/adobe/earth-based materials.

    Be a Maker!

  125. Q. Shtik October 13, 2016 at 4:29 pm #

    I’ll bet the speech Trump delivered in FL a few hours ago made Janos’ Fruit of the Looms wet and sticky.

    On a serious note, I noticed that Trump is quite capable of powerfully delivering a pre-written speech read from a monitor……..however, it is obvious when he begins to stray off-script for a line or two into Donald-talk. He needs to avoid this tendency at all costs because he ain’t no Demosthenes.

    • Frankiti October 13, 2016 at 4:39 pm #

      I’ll take an off the cuff orator, a Diogenes, any day…

      • wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 4:48 pm #

        Diogenes was a bankster who worked with his daddy, also a banker, so your role models are the banksters.

        Diogenes got mixed up in a currency scandal, involving the adulteration or debasement of the currency, so Diogenes is not an honest man. But he got what he deserved: exile from the city, loss of his citizenship, and all his material possessions.

        Your guy Diogenes is a penniless bum with no citizenship because no one wanted an undocumented bum. Diogenes was a taker, not a maker, a homeless panhandler getting in peoples’ faces. His schtick about looking for an honest man is pure hypocrisy, given his criminal behavior, for which he was justly punished.

    • Frankiti October 13, 2016 at 5:00 pm #

      “In a rich man’s house there is no place to spit but his face.”

      When some reminded that the people of Sinope had sentenced him to exile, he said,

      “And I sentenced them to stay at home.”

      • wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 5:19 pm #

        The difference being they could leave Sinope and return. Diogenes could not return because Diogenes was a “persona non grata”

    • Janos Skorenzy October 13, 2016 at 5:20 pm #

      Did you watch the debate? Was he not eloquent without script? As he admits, he’s a counter-puncher, a natural prosecutor of no mean quality.

      This does indicate that’s emotionally focused as opposed to purely intellectual or aesthetic. On questions of policy or theory, he will fumble without script. But oh how negative emotion focuses his mind! As Dale Carnegie said long ago, knock the average Joe down and he will get up and plead eloquently how he was wronged.

      Again, this doesn’t mean he’s not sincere about his policies or that he has a low IQ. He just hasn’t forged that connection between the different parts of his brain well enough. Anger increases the voltage and makes the connection work.

      You’re being negative btw – again. You can’t get behind the Leader because he threatens your world. Like it or not, you’re with N.Y Times and the Jews who own it – and the rest of the Dark Powers that rule the West.

    • dannyboy October 13, 2016 at 5:31 pm #

      “stray off-script for a line or two into Donald-talk”

      that’s “Donald-World

  126. Frankiti October 13, 2016 at 4:52 pm #

    Is there any wonder why nations want to go full Nuke?
    Like Pakistan, N. Korea, Iran?

    The US only picks on weak countries, particularly very weak ones.
    Like say Yemen, as in today…

    Bienvenidos a EEUU.

    A country not worth caring about.

    • wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 5:12 pm #

      Si crees eso, váyase a otro país, o mejor, camina el mundo (fuera de EEUU) sin fin, buscando a un hombre honesto como tu héroe Diogenes.

    • JimInFlorida October 13, 2016 at 6:47 pm #

      It’s very doubtful that North Korea has a fusion nuclear weapon. They have a decent fission bomb, though. Then there’s the problem of accurately delivering it. A fission bomb is large and heavy. It would take a powerful rocket with sophisticated directional controls to control the flight in all phases.

      Pakistan has fission weapons and they also have the rockets to deliver them. India isn’t far away but, India’s power is vastly greater.

      Iran simply does not have the military-industrial complex to build or maintain any fission weapon, let alone a real nuclear weapon. Iran would do well to amass a large quantity of homegrown IRBM’s with conventional warheads in order to defend itself from Saudi Arabia and Israel. Contrary to popular belief, IRAN is the Good Guy in the Middle East. Not Saudi Arabia or Israel.

      I followed the Saudi warcrimes against Yemen when the shooting started a few years ago. Yemen is a country that can’t fight its way out of a paper bag. Organized War with machines and traditional forces is not in their blood.

      They once HAD the military capability of delivering a punishing retaliation to Saudi Arabia but, the country was torn between the Houthi rebels and those loyal to President Hadi. It was all too obvious that nobody was in charge and the Saudis bombed all of Yemen’s abandoned military hardware. The Houthis only know how to fight guerrilla style and even then, do a poor job of it.

      Iran made a half-hearted attempt to deliver aid to the Houthis but, that aid was ambushed in the Arabian Sea and redirected to Djibouti. It’s almost certain that none of it got to the Houthis. PressTV’s whitewashing of that failure borders on comedy.

  127. Q. Shtik October 13, 2016 at 5:03 pm #

    ..or at a Presidential Debate – danny


    This past Monday, the day after the contentious Town Hall style debate, CNBC had a woman guest on who has expertise in body language. She declared that “the body doesn’t lie” and on that basis claimed that Trump dominated Hillary. She pointed out several examples such as Trump moving close to Hillary while she spoke, glaring, pointing his finger at her, etc. Conversely, Hillary tried to put distance between herself and Trump as a sign she felt domination. In one clip, as she was speaking, Trump interrupted or spoke over her and she seemed to lean back as though taking a wind blast from Matthew.

    At one point Hillary was wrapping up her answer to a question and walked back toward her chair/podium with affected insouciance as though having delivered a telling blow.

    While Hillary had to work at displaying powerful body language it came naturally to Trump and without a thought.

    • dannyboy October 13, 2016 at 5:34 pm #

      good advice:

      don’t do that with women

      it’s creepy

  128. wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 5:04 pm #

    “These vicious claims about me are all false. They never happened,” said Bill Cosby when the first couple women came forward.

    Six women have now accused Trump of sexual misconduct. Trump is a paper tiger. Trump is all hat, no cattle. Trump doesn’t have the guts to face these women in a court of law, under oath, where his lies can be punished.

    We welcome the opportunity to have a court set Trump straight. Sue, Trump, sue! I dare you!

  129. Janos Skorenzy October 13, 2016 at 5:12 pm #

    Anonymous claims to have a video of Bill Clinton raping a 13 year old girl on or on the way to Orgy Island. The video was hacked from Israeli Intelligence, obviously taped for the purpose of coercion. This is a game changer if true. The Establishment has bet everything on Trump’s bad character in regards to women. Yet his pouty mouth is nothing compared to Bill’s biting thru lips and pedophilia.


    • wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 5:22 pm #

      Bill is not running for president.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 13, 2016 at 5:32 pm #

        The women he raped hate Hillary even more than they hate him. They are one corrupt flesh.

        • wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 6:06 pm #

          Hillary is running for president. Bill is not. That makes the difference. You and Rush Limbaugh and company are wasting your breath. Hillary is the candidate. The more Trump attacks Bill, the more Trump attacks Hillary, the more her support grows, the more her base is motivated. Trump is helping Hillary.

      • JimInFlorida October 13, 2016 at 6:16 pm #

        Bill and The Harpy are a Package Deal. What Bill IS, will also influence the political environment of The Harpy if she makes it. He will most certainly manipulate things behind the scenes just as Hillary did.

        Just because Hillary wasn’t technically running for POTUS in 1992 and 1996 did NOT make her an irrelevant entity in the Clinton Administration.

        “I’m not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers. WE are the president.”
        — Hillary Clinton commenting on the release of subpoenaed documents (1993)

          • JimInFlorida October 14, 2016 at 10:19 am #

            Excellent series of propositions, Janos.

            The first scenario, the Hart-Celler Amerika is the most likely outcome. The reason being that it was predicted over 50 years ago and those predictions have stayed on track. Whites are too atomized to act in consensus, too anomic to regain moral authority, and our institutions are completely out of reach. Hart-Celler wins because White America’s resolve is fatigued into compliance. Such exhaustion also conforms to the laws of entropy. The great tragedy is that it didn’t have to happen. The seeds of our destruction were NOT planted there by legitimate Whites but, by 3rd parties…. and we know who they are. Even the Bible tells of the evil ones who sow bad seed in a good field.

        • Q. Shtik October 13, 2016 at 9:18 pm #

          Guilt by association.

          One is known by the company they keep.

          Hillary is possibly guilty of Catholicism’s sin of scandal although it is a complicated subject.

      • seawolf77 October 14, 2016 at 10:21 am #

        The fact we are talking about Bill demonstrates the desperation of Trump.

    • dannyboy October 13, 2016 at 5:36 pm #

      you lost credibility at “hacked from Israeli Intelligence”

      but it must be some internet thing you like

      • Janos Skorenzy October 13, 2016 at 8:39 pm #

        Because of course Israel would never do something like that, right? In fact, that’s what all Secret Services do – a man who wears Burberry should also be reading Ian Fleming and know as much.

        Do you know you’re on the Internet right now?

        • dannyboy October 14, 2016 at 8:24 am #


          i read all the Bond books (i really related to James Bond)

          also, because i am aware that i am on the internet, i do not take what i read as honest, especially yours

          • elysianfield October 14, 2016 at 12:02 pm #

            “i read all the Bond books (i really related to James Bond)”

            Sweet Jesus…every man a prince? You continue to amaze.

    • Frankiti October 13, 2016 at 5:44 pm #

      How will the first predator, first philanderer, first rapist sate his appetite in the White House? Are interns allowed into the personal quarters?

    • seawolf77 October 14, 2016 at 10:10 am #

      Are you frickin kiddin me? OK how about this. I have a film of what happened to Jimmy Hoffa. Jesus, Maude you’ll say anything.

  130. FincaInTheMountains October 13, 2016 at 5:25 pm #

    According to reliable Russian sources, in Serpuhovo near Moscow was build a first functional time machine

    According to the same source, the operational plan of using this amazing invention is to send Russian Special Forces 500 years ago to Spain and prevent Columbus expedition from ever taking place.

    Goodbye, America!

  131. wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 5:30 pm #

    You should go to court before going to jail. Chris Christie is going to court.

    (CNN)A criminal summons will be issued against New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie after a municipal court judge determined probable cause at a hearing Thursday regarding a citizen complaint related to the 2013 lane closures to the George Washington Bridge, according to a court spokesperson.

    In his complaint, Bill Brennan accused the Republican governor of official misconduct saying Christie “knowingly refrained from ordering that his subordinates take all necessary action to re-open local access lanes to the George Washington Bridge from Fort Lee, New Jersey, that had been closed with purpose to injure Fort Lee mayor Mark Sokolich.”


    • Q. Shtik October 13, 2016 at 9:29 pm #

      Christie is not running for president.

      Melania is not running for president.

      Try to stay focused Asoka, these are examples of guilt by association.

      • wpa_ccc October 14, 2016 at 12:32 am #

        “Christie is not running for president.” –Q.

        Correct, Q.Christie is not running for president. Christie is not running for vice president either. Christie is not going to be governor of NJ for long either. Christie is going to jail. Christie is a dillard.

  132. wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 5:50 pm #


    Almost twice as many people have died at the hands of white supremacists and other non-Muslim extremists than by radical Muslims.

    Using data compiled by New America, a Washington Research center, a study found that 48 people have been killed by extremists who are not Muslim—including the mass killings in Charleston, S.C.—compared to the 26 by self-proclaimed jihadists.

    Of course, the “self-proclaimed jihadists” are not truly Islamic. Many are born and raised in the violence of US culture. Islam is a religion of peace.

    Just sayin’

    • malthuss October 14, 2016 at 10:17 am #

      How many thousands die ‘at the hands of Blacks’ every year, in USA?

  133. wpa_ccc October 13, 2016 at 6:24 pm #


    Trump is like King Kong. They both broke free of their shackles and like grabbing white women.

    “Just grab them by the pussy” –Trump 2016

  134. Frankiti October 13, 2016 at 6:45 pm #

    Is hilllary going to donate Bill’s $1 mill Qatari gift to her campaign?

    • JimInFlorida October 13, 2016 at 7:01 pm #

      It will be laundered through the Clinton Foundation.
      A lot of skimming and payola along the way but, a good part will eventually get to The Harpy’s campaign.

  135. FincaInTheMountains October 13, 2016 at 7:19 pm #

    Judging by US Media, American twisted establishment is twitching like hell. Looks like the loot is running out.

    • Frankiti October 13, 2016 at 8:40 pm #

      Leaving the WSJ to report on this embarrassing state of affairs.
      The newstainment companies are completely ignoring the Clinton crime spree.

  136. FincaInTheMountains October 13, 2016 at 7:23 pm #

    Anybody venture to make a guess what kind of a payoff is offered to major news networks anchors and pundits for forever ruining their journalistic credentials?

    My guess we’ll see a major rotation after the election, the old guard will take the money and run to Caribbean…

    • Frankiti October 13, 2016 at 7:49 pm #

      Nobody worth their salt regards news story-crafters, TelePrompTer readers, and wonk (putrid word) pundits as journalists.

      Regrettably, the US is a nation of dullards.

      The corporations that run them get access in return for the favors.

      • Q. Shtik October 13, 2016 at 9:57 pm #

        the US is a nation of dullards. – Frankiti


        My brother in law, Peter has never said the word dullard. He always says “dillard.” As many times as he has said dillard in our 44 year association I have corrected him with the dictionary spelling, pronunciation and definition:

        dull·ard (d?l??rd) n. A person regarded as mentally dull; a dolt. dullard (?d?l?d) n a dull or stupid person dull•ard (?d?l ?rd) n. a stupid, insensitive …

        I might add: “Peter, this is not complex, it makes sense, does it not, that a dull person would be called a dullard. So, what is a dill person? an aficionado of a certain pickle?”

        Nothing works, it is forever dillard. Likewise a chimney is forever a chimley. There are a hundred such in Peter’s repertoire.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2016 at 2:15 am #

          He’s a dilly. Is he the same one who stuffs his face without swallowing at proper intervals? At least he’s not a Fletcherite: imagine him chewing each bit twenty times and watching his lips counting before his teeth come down. Soon you would be counting along in time…

          • Q. Shtik October 14, 2016 at 12:32 pm #

            He’s a dilly. Is he the same one who stuffs his face without swallowing at proper intervals? – Janos


            One and the same.

            Thanks for mentioning this Fletcher dude. I Googled* him and read briefly about his thorough chewing regimen and some of his other (more controversial) ideas.

            Peter has been overweight as long as I have known him, up until the point about 10 years ago when he had to undergo quadruple bypass heart surgery. That put the fear of God in him and he dropped some serious tonnage but, like most other people do, he has fallen off the wagon and climbed back aboard many times. (Earlier this year he had to have some stents inserted in some arteries/veins.)

            Without even having heard of Fletcher, I often told Peter I could cure him of his weight problem by doing one simple thing: take a mouthful of food and set your fork down until you have thoroughly chewed and swallowed it. Then pick up your fork and take the next mouthful. But, such advice is useless.

            * Search engines like Google should be ranked up there with fire, the wheel, and sliced bread. In all seriousness, I believe I have learned more in the last 10 years than I did in all the prior 65 years because of the internet and Google and its imitators.

  137. Frankiti October 13, 2016 at 7:52 pm #

    Podesta is a master of illegal backroom dealings.
    He’ll make a fine Secretary of State.
    Imagine the billions he will funnel to Iran, N Korea, ISIS.
    He’ll make Lurch Kerry look like an amateur.

  138. wpa_ccc October 14, 2016 at 12:39 am #

    “It will be laundered through the Clinton Foundation. A lot of skimming and payola along the way.” –JiminFlorida

    The Clinton Foundation is the subject of intense scrutiny, overview, and oversight. There is so much accountability demanded, so much auditing, so much rating by the charity watchdog groups, that skimming and payola are impossible. The Clinton Foundation has an excellent rating for efficiency and low administrative overhead.

    The Clinton Foundation relies heavily on donations from the public and it achieves its mission primarily by using those donations to conduct direct charitable activities, as opposed to providing grants from an endowment.

    Failure to understand the difference led to the widespread claim (covered by the New York Post, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and others) that only a small portion of Clinton Foundation spending goes toward charity. While measuring charitable endeavors by the amount of grants awarded may be appropriate for many private foundations, it is not for an organization that acts as a direct service provider like the Clinton Foundation.

  139. wpa_ccc October 14, 2016 at 12:56 am #


    A group of former nuclear launch officers in the U.S. Air Force have signed an open letter saying they’re disturbed by the idea of Trump standing over what’s known as the “red button.” The letter, with 10 signatories, was first reported by The Washington Post on Thursday.

    “Only the president can order a nuclear launch. That order cannot be vetoed and once the missiles have been launched, they cannot be called back,” the letter states. “The consequences of miscalculation, impulsive decision-making or poor judgment on the part of the president could be catastrophic.”

    The letter concludes: “Donald Trump should not be the nation’s commander-in-chief. He should not be entrusted with the nuclear launch codes. He should not have his finger on the button.”

    Throughout the campaign, Trump has shown a stunning propensity to lash out at his critics and attack anyone ? be it a fellow Republican or even a Gold Star mother ? who he believes crossed him. He’s taken to Twitter at 3 a.m. to assail a former Miss Universe whom he humiliated years ago. As the letter itself notes, Trump is “easily baited” by those who want to provoke him ? not exactly a quality you want in the leader of the world’s most powerful military.

  140. Pucker October 14, 2016 at 2:22 am #

    Totally Insane:

    “Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has said she “does not recall” ordering emails related to State Department business to be deleted or permanently erased from her personal server after she left her post in 2013, according to sworn testimony made public Thursday.”

  141. Pucker October 14, 2016 at 2:31 am #

    Hillary is deranged….

    “I might have ordered them deleted, but I might not have ordered 30,000 emails deleted off of my personal server in my bathroom set up to conduct US State Department official business commingled with Clinton Foundation fundraising. I don’t remember.”

    • elysianfield October 14, 2016 at 12:12 pm #

      ““I might have ordered them deleted, but I might not have ordered 30,000 emails deleted off of my personal server in my bathroom set up to conduct US State Department official business commingled with Clinton Foundation fundraising. I don’t remember.””

      This explains everything…case closed. She does not remember. I am getting sick and tired of hearing of those damned emails.

  142. wpa_ccc October 14, 2016 at 2:35 am #


    “I write in response to your letter of October 12, 2016 to Dean Baquet concerning your client Donald Trump, the Republican Party nominee for President of the United States.

    You write concerning our article, “Two Women Say Donald Trump” Touched Them Inappropriately, and label the article as “libel per se.” You ask that we “remove it from [our] website, and issue a full and immediate retraction and apology.” We decline to do so.

    The essence of a libel claim, of course, is the protection of one’s reputation. Mr. Trump has bragged about his non-consensual sexual touching of women. He has bragged about intruding on beauty pageant contestants in their dressing rooms. He acquiesced to a radio host’s request to discuss Mr. Trump’s own daughter as a “piece of ass.”

    Multiple women not mentioned in our article have publicly come forward to report on Mr. Trump’s unwanted advances. Nothing in our article has had the slightest effect on the reputation that Mr. Trump, through his own words and actions, has already created for himself.

    But there is a larger and much more important point here. The women quoted in our story spoke out on an issue of national importance indeed, an issue that Mr. Trump himself discussed with the whole nation watching during Sunday night’s presidential debate.

    Our reporters diligently worked to confirm the women’s accounts. They provided readers with Mr. Trump’s response, including his forceful denial of the women’s reports. It would have been a disservice not just to our readers but to democracy itself to silence their voices. We did what the law allows: We published newsworthy information about a subject of deep public concern. If Mr. Trump disagrees, if he believes that American citizens had no right to hear what these women had to say and that the law of this country forces us and those who would dare to criticize him to stand silent or be punished, we welcome the opportunity to have a court set him straight.”

    But Mr. Trump will not sue the New York Times. Mr. Trump is a bully and a coward who will not hit back. He only hits back at those who are weaker than him (like the women he has sexually assaulted who he thinks are weaker than him.)

    But just as dozens of women told the truth about Bill Cosby, dozens of women are now coming forward to tell the truth about Donald Trump: he is a criminal sexual predator (outside of his locker room bragging).

    WE WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A COURT SET HIM STRAIGHT… but Trump is weak and will not sue the NYT.

  143. FincaInTheMountains October 14, 2016 at 8:16 am #

    To: The Democratic National Committee
    Re: 2016 GOP presidential candidates
    Date: April 7, 2015
    This memo is intended to outline the strategy and goals a potential Hillary Clinton presidential campaign would have
    regarding the 2016 Republican presidential field. Clearly most of what is contained in this memo is work the DNC is
    already doing. This exercise is intended to put those ideas to paper.
    Our Goals & Strategy
    Our hope is that the goal of a potential HRC campaign and the DNC would be one-in-the-same: to make whomever the
    Republicans nominate unpalatable to a majority of the electorate. We have outlined three strategies to obtain our goal:
    1) Force all Republican candidates to lock themselves into extreme conservative positions that will hurt them in a
    general election;
    2) Undermine any credibility/trust Republican presidential candidates have to make inroads to our coalition or
    3) Muddy the waters on any potential attack lodged against HRC.
    Operationalizing the Strategy
    Pied Piper Candidates
    There are two ways to approach the strategies mentioned above. The first is to use the field as a whole to inflict damage
    on itself similar to what happened to Mitt Romney in 2012. The variety of candidates is a positive here, and many of the
    lesser known can serve as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right. In this scenario, we
    don’t want to marginalize the more extreme candidates, but make them more “Pied Piper” candidates who actually
    represent the mainstream of the Republican Party. Pied Piper candidates include, but aren’t limited to:
    • Ted Cruz
    • Donald Trump
    • Ben Carson
    We need to be elevating the Pied Piper candidates so that they are leaders of the pack and tell the press to them
    Undermining Their Message & Credibility
    Most of the more-established candidates will want to focus on building a winning general election coalition. The “Pied
    Pipers” of the field will mitigate this to a degree, but more will need to be done on certain candidates to undermine
    their credibility among our coalition (communities of color, millennials, women) and independent voters. In this regard,
    the goal here would be to show that they are just the same as every other GOP candidate: extremely conservative on
    these issues. Some examples:
    • Jeb Bush
    o What to undermine: the notion he is a “moderate” or concerned about regular Americans; perceived
    inroads with the Latino population.
    • Marco Rubio
    o What to undermine: the idea he has “fresh” ideas; his perceived appeal to Latinos
    • Scott Walker
    o What to undermine: the idea he can rally working- and middle class Americans.
    • Rand Paul
    o What to undermine: the idea he is a “different” kind of Republican; his stance on the military and his
    appeal to millennials and communities of color.
    • Bobby Jindal
    o What to undermine: his “new” ideas
    • Chris Christie
    o What to undermine: he tells it like it is.
    Muddying the Waters
    As we all know, the right wing attack machine has been building its opposition research on Hillary Clinton for decades.
    The RNC et al has been telegraphing they are ready to attack and do so with reckless abandon. One way we can respond
    to these attacks is to show how they boomerang onto the Republican presidential field. The goal, then, is to have a
    dossier on the GOP candidates on the likely attacks HRC will face. Based on attacks that have already occurred, the areas
    they are highlighting:
    • Transparency & disclosure
    • Donors & associations
    • Management & business dealings
    In this regard, any information on scandals or ethical lapses on the GOP candidates would serve well. We won’t be picky.
    Again, we think our goals mirror those of the DNC. We look forward to continuing the conversation.


    • FincaInTheMountains October 14, 2016 at 8:22 am #

      Democrats in April 2015 were thinking about how to win the presidential race.

      Some of them came up with the “brilliant” idea to help in the media promotion of marginal candidates from the Republican Party, so they push out of the race the real contenders for the presidential position. Most likely, a real contender, who had enormous financial resources behind, was considered Jeb Bush.

      First there were selected three marginal – Ted Cruz, Donald Trump and Ben Carson. Democrats began their media promotion. As Cruz and Carson – quite respectable people, the emphasis was on the eccentric Trump, whom many considered a buffoon.

  144. FincaInTheMountains October 14, 2016 at 9:55 am #

    Fascism and Nazism are very different and are largely the antithesis of one another

    Moreover, if not for the war in Ethiopia, fascists of Italy beginning in the 30’s would have been part of the Western White Project and the main opponent of the Black Project in Europe, which was planning to implement the Nazi project in France, as Ilya Ehrenburg wrote in his great novel “Trust D .E.”

    For example, the first attempt at the Anschluss almost started a war between the fascist Mussolini’s Italy and Hitler’s Nazi Germany, and this war would be ideological, as Mussolini’s alliance with Hitler in Spain, and then in the Great Patriotic War were purely situational.

    By the way the most important indicator of this contradiction has been and remains the Jewish question, and in the current election campaign in the United States is becoming increasingly important, as the newspapers supporting Hillary Clinton repeatedly called Putin a fascist, are deploying campaign to deny the role of Roosevelt to overcome the Great Depression on the grounds that FDR by deceit involved United States during the second World War on the side of Stalin, was actually a fascist and admirer of Mussolini.

    And the Arab Spring was essentially a war of Arab-Nazi Salafis with Syria, Egypt and Libyan patriots.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2016 at 2:28 pm #

      Fascism is the class and Nazism is a member or example of the class. Glad you’re admitting Putin is a Fascist or Nationalist. That’s a start. Slowly he will educate the Russian People about the evils of its Communist past.

  145. malthuss October 14, 2016 at 10:15 am #

    don’t forget developing alternate energy sources, and increasing efficiency of existing resources, such as next generation energy storage (e.g., batteries).

    Do not forget USA and Europe are going Third World as the
    population increases, BY A BILLION MORE HUMANS EVERY 12 YEARS.

    • beantownbill. October 14, 2016 at 12:05 pm #

      The world’s population is around 7.5 billion. A billion people every 12 years represents a 1/7.5 or a 13.3% population increase every 12 years, or on a non-compounding basis, 13.3/12, an annual increase of 1.1%. I agree with you that we are suffering population overshoot, but I’d like us to try to save as much of humanity as we can. With technological advances in the energy sector, we can increase the number saved compared to doing nothing.

      Of course, if you don’t care for much of Homo sapiens, then this whole exercise becomes moot.

      • elysianfield October 14, 2016 at 12:18 pm #

        “With technological advances in the energy sector, we can increase the number saved compared to doing nothing.”


        Technological advances notwithstanding, if you cannot pay your rent, out you go…if you cannot pay your electric bill, live in the dark. If you have no money, you get no honey….

        Communism has a production problem,
        Capitalism a problem of distribution….

        • FincaInTheMountains October 14, 2016 at 12:33 pm #

          Communism has a production problem,
          Capitalism a problem of distribution….

          Good! God created problems for us so we won’t turn our society into a “perfect consumer paradise” – “rat paradise”


      • Elrond Hubbard October 14, 2016 at 12:45 pm #

        I don’t have The Limits to Growth handy, so I’m just going to go by eyeballing this graph from Gail “The Actuary” Tverberg’s blog:


        I understand this graph to depict the Club of Rome’s “Business As Usual” scenario. Research has determined that reality has followed this scenario pretty closely since the study was first published.

        Right now, we’re at the point where services per capita, food per capita and industrial output per capita all peak, just before they join resources on its steep depletion curve. The birth rate has been decreasing less rapidly than the death rate, so the study projects population to continue rising for a bit. It won’t last, though, especially once food per capita drops lower than where it was at the turn of the 20th century. The death rate shifts direction at that point and skyrockets shortly thereafter (2-3 decades from now), rapidly overtaking births. The birth rate also rises significantly, but not near enough to prevent the mass dieback that takes hold around 2050, around the same time that resources bottom out. Not sure if industrial output per capita at that point includes subsistence farming, but all in all it’s quite a ride.

        Of course things might not go that way — it’s just a computer model, after all. But there isn’t a better or more realistic projection that I know of. The one thing that might reduce the horrendous suffering we’re in for as a species is an alternative energy economy that can extricate itself from the fossil fuel trap and give us something more to work with than our own desperate, sweating meat. It’s fashionable these days to claim that Malthus was wrong, but in fact the world as we know it today is just a blip in history, never to be repeated. Let’s hope it isn’t a terminal blip.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2016 at 2:25 pm #

          And all this is helped by opening our borders, how? It’s not like we need great social capital to go thru this transformation, right? Or is “transformation” just another word for the Iron Heel in your book – so social capital isn’t required. In fact, it just gets in the way….

          • malthuss October 14, 2016 at 3:24 pm #

            You know the only reason why there is population growth in first world countries.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2016 at 3:41 pm #

            In his book, Dark Continent, Mathiessen (sp?) said he wished Africans would either move towards a First World economy or go back to hunter/gathering and/or subsistence farming. But they can’t go forward because it’s not in them, and obviously they’re not going to willingly go back either. It’s up to US to cut them off and let them sink back to the level that is natural to them. But Christian morality won’t let us – thus they will continue to breed and spread, spreading chaos, crime, poverty, and misery wherever they settle.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 14, 2016 at 4:52 pm #

            Re-reading my comment about Limits to Growth in light of Janos’ question, I look in vain for any mention of opening borders. The words ‘border’, ‘frontier’, ‘immigrant’ / ‘immigration’, ‘refugee’, etc. — not found. Which goes to illustrate Janos’ bigotry, since he can read his obsessions into anything.

            I’d be willing to bet there’s nothing in what I actually wrote at 12:45 pm today that Janos disagrees with. (How could he, when I’m doing no more than describing lines on a graph that anyone can see for themselves?) Yet he’s so devoted to his bigotry that he has to put words in my mouth to justify his animus.

            Fanatic: someone who can’t change his mind and refuses to change the subject.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2016 at 11:25 pm #

            So you agree with me then, that limits to growth means closing the border? If you don’t, why not say so? It’s called conversation – and it means each person gets to introduce new elements. Stop being a Solipsistic Sophist.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 15, 2016 at 1:06 pm #

            We are all too likely to see a day when the nations of the world declare lifeboat conditions and entire populations are abandoned to a horrible fate.

            The difference between you and me, Janos, is that you hunger for that day. You advertise this fact incandescently with your relentless race hatred and Jew-baiting. Far from a lifeboat, in the here and now you’re actually living on a cruise ship. Yet you spend your days railing and screaming about the people you would throw overboard.

          • dannyboy October 15, 2016 at 3:11 pm #

            janos’ ship has sunk

            it happened in his mind

      • malthuss October 14, 2016 at 3:23 pm #


        My concern is not the sheer number but the amount of non renewable resources available to billions.
        And the fragility of civilizations. USA is a few years behind Europe, which seems on the verge of collapse due to unemployment and refugees.

        Steve Forbes bought an Island in or off Greece and the Acropolis was sold. The Greek people are poor and things dont look good for them.

  146. Elrond Hubbard October 14, 2016 at 10:52 am #

    Good day, JimInFlorida. I’m still waiting for you to educate me about the North American Union which you have stated is “already operational”. You also wrote that the very fact that I’m “willfully ignorant” about this already-operational entity “severely downgrades the credibility of [my] opinion and commentary”.

    It’s hard for me to be “willfully ignorant” about something I’ve never heard proposed as a serious already-existing thing before now. Would you kindly take a moment to explain what you mean about the North American Union being “already operational” and how you know this to be the case? What does “operational” mean? Am I somehow deluded in my belief that Canada is a sovereign nation? Is my country’s federal budget actually funded by a Congressional appropriation? If so, where are my tax dollars actually going? Seriously, I need specifics. References would be greatly appreciated. Otherwise I may have no choice but to dismiss your as-yet unsupported claim with ridicule as the product of some fever swamp, analogous to 9/11 trutherism or similar nonsense.

    JimInFlorida, I’m awaiting your reply with interest. Please don’t disappoint me.

    • JimInFlorida October 14, 2016 at 6:38 pm #

      Why do I have to do your homework for you, Elrond? I am sorely disappointed in your willful naivete.

      While I disagree with your viewpoint and ideology, I expect more from you. You should know of these things or, at least, be very suspicious of anything from Washington. Do you even understand the concept of, “CRIMINAL ENERGY,” especially as applied to U.S. politics???

      The North American Union was a formal harmonization of preexisting trade treaties that started with NAFTA and all such trade agreements afterwards. While the NAU did NOT become a dejure entity, due to protest and criticism, it is EFFECTIVELY operational in piecemeal instead of as a cohesive whole.

      The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (and related councils) was established to get the ball rolling but, is technically not in service. But, such entities are never dismantled but put in mothballs to be revived later.

      The NAU grows through incrementalism. A contract here, banking harmonization there, strategic road expansion along the NAU’s goals, political agreements that echo the NAU, coordination of trade policies, greater legal integration, … bit by bit.

      Here’s a URL for you, if you’d like:

      Canada signed away its sovereignty when it signed onto the Clinton Crime Syndicate’s NAFTA program. Every year, another Bush-Clinton-Obama tentacle has seized Canada. How can ANY Canadian feel like he lives in a sovereign country when the epic scandal of the AVRO ARROW lays hidden like a black stain on Canada’s national soul? If you don’t know about the AVRO ARROW SCANDAL, and Washington’s treachery on behalf of U.S. defense contractors, THEN SHAME ON YOU, ELROND.

      • Elrond Hubbard October 15, 2016 at 1:27 pm #

        Thanks for getting back to me, JiF. First, of course I know about the Avro Arrow. Second, of course I understand the web of trade and economic relationships that tie the hands of sovereign countries, to the advantage of the owning and investing classes. As far as I could tell from what you wrote, I thought you were referring to something more specific than the blindingly obvious. Back in the sixties, some reporter remarked on the Beatles’ haircuts and asked what they called it. George Harrison replied, “Arthur.” The joke being that it was actually, you know, just his hair. Same difference.

        It’s possible you have never heard of the original Free Trade Agreement between Canada and the U.S. that was negotiated back in the 1980s. It sure was big news here at the time, though. People in the U.S. didn’t take notice until Mexico was cut in on the deal years later. Both deals were negotiated under the prime ministership of Brian Mulroney, and were both so unpopular in Canada that he didn’t stick around to face the electoral consequences. Instead he stepped down and his replacement, Kim Campbell, was turfed out of office so decisively that the Progressive Conservatives went from being the governing party to having two seats in Parliament. Two.

        Thanks again for taking the time to reply at such length. I wouldn’t want to let a misunderstanding over terminology get in the way of the areas where we actually agree. Then I can devote more of my time taking you to task for your anti-Semitism.

  147. wpa_ccc October 14, 2016 at 11:36 am #


    Donald Trump Jr. offered some unsolicited career advice for women concerned about sexual harassment in the workplace: Just quit, already.

    “If you can’t handle some of the basic stuff that’s become a problem in the workforce today, then you don’t belong in the workforce,” Donald Trump’s son said.

    “You should go maybe teach kindergarten,” he said, apparently suggesting that teachers aren’t part of the workforce. “You can’t be negotiating billion-dollar deals if you can’t handle, like, you know.”

    Gender-based harassment, both sexual and not, is against the law in the U.S. “It is illegal to harass a woman by making offensive comments about women in general,” according to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

    So if the GOP presidential nominee’s son can’t handle not being able to make offensive comments about women, maybe he’s the one unfit for the workforce.

  148. 3D October 14, 2016 at 12:38 pm #

    No surprise that some Alt-Media personalities I used to revere have disappointingly shit-the-bed in arguing the merits of choosing one or another candidate this cycle, and it’s damn a shame. For all the tiresome “what ifs?” and woulda coulda shoudas floating about the ether this cycle, nothing unexpected occurred, not from my perspective.

    The only real choices, regarding the Trump vs. Clinton matchup, were between the probabilities of Civil Skirmish in the Homeland or Hot War between legit Military Super Powers. I believe both are coming, the order doesn’t matter. The speed with which they arise doesn’t really matter either.

    Only a fucking onanist cretin would argue a vote for either of the two main parties… but hell, at least the supposedly responsible third-party voter has the goddamn common courtesy to deposit their ejaculate into the trash can. During summer, there was only a question of which fatally flawed candidate would hit the floor first.
    Its laughable, really… the idea that voting this presidential cycle (no matter the tint of one’s preferred Kool-Aid) marks one as morally or intellectually sensible, depending how it’s spun. Actually, participation at this point demonstrates the complete lack of integrity. This is arguably true about general election voting for my lifetime (39 years). I’ve watched for months otherwise keen professional commentators argue for one or the other of the two main candidates employing the very same cognitive dissonance they decry in the bisected electorate. There isn’t a less evil option, there never was. We’re down to consequences, and we don’t get to choose which happen first.

    Going beyond the politically correct whimpers of getting rid of billionaire elites, let’s up the ante and include the roughly 70,800,000 Hacking Hillary acolytes plus the 47,200,000 die hard Chump Yooniversity fanboys (final numbers TBD). Put these idiots on the front lines of whatever is to come.


    • wpa_ccc October 14, 2016 at 1:35 pm #

      Your post convinces me of the importance of resisting all attempts at vote suppression. I will vote.

      I won’t be participating in your fantasy of being on the front line of your imaginary violent race war. Violence is declining. Love is winning.

      • 3D October 14, 2016 at 1:39 pm #

        Good for you, eunuch.

  149. 3D October 14, 2016 at 1:43 pm #

    An obvious sleight-of-hand was perpetrated on the willfully gullible this election:

    1.) Trump only ever was a media-hyped patsy designated to LOSE against Clinton.

    2). Two Billion bucks in free media publicity for Trump early on provided the illusion that Chump’s popularity was momentous (Obama and Romney campaigns spent a billion each in 2012).

    3.) While a bit of a gamble for establishmentarians, Trump’s easily measurable appeal to a miserable subsect of fans predictably never metastasized; despite the fact that, were he a true Strong Man with even a minor capacity for asserting tangible gripes with the system — the election was HIS to Lose — once feeble Bernie was surgically removed…

    4.) The female empowerment take-down narrative against Trump was ALWAYS in place (he knew it was coming and still fucked up his defense).

    5.) While there is no doubt the legacy media conspired first for his candidacy and later against, this fucking clown threw real gains out the window at every opportunity.

    6.) Defeating Clinton would be easy if Trump were in any way authentic as a leader.

    What comes post-election is Trump Network, a New Media consolidation of all the irrational pundit bloggers, from which the next bowel gurgling Strong Man politician will excrete, and this time he might be intelligible, outwardly calm, and discretely brutal. “Gird Your Loins,” Clusterfuckers.


    • FincaInTheMountains October 14, 2016 at 2:12 pm #

      You wrong! Trump as authentic as 20-dollar bill.

      He’s just an agent of Mistico-Meteorological Factor.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2016 at 2:21 pm #

      Knock off the bitterness. Stop pretending you’re better and smarter than everyone else. Get behind the Leader – the last chance for America and World Peace in our Time. No, he’s not perfect, but on the other hand, what he’s done is far from easy. If it was, why didn’t one of the better qualified do it? They lacked the manhood to do so, either emotionally or existentially – because too beholden to special interests.

      Trump himself said he knew ten people off the top of his head who could govern America well. But they could never get elected, he said. Given all the factors, how many men are left standing? One – the one who is.

  150. wpa_ccc October 14, 2016 at 2:38 pm #

    “Of course things might not go that way — it’s just a computer model, after all. But there isn’t a better or more realistic projection that I know of.” –Elrond Hubbard

    Nice to see the topic change to overpopulation, resource depletion, nuclear war, and species die-off. I want to address population.

    Population will not inevitably expand. There will not be a naturally occurring mass human extinction. (If we start shooting nuclear missiles at each other, all bets are off, but WE will trigger that not Nature).

    The world population reached 7.3 billion as of mid-2015, implying that the world has added approximately one billion people in the span of the last twelve years.

    Currently, the world population continues to grow, though more slowly than in the recent past. Ten years ago, world population was growing by 1.24 per cent per year. Today, it is growing by 1.18 per cent per year, or approximately an additional 83 million people annually. The world population is projected to increase by more than one billion people within the next 15 years, reaching 8.5 billion in 2030.

    This projection assumes a decline of fertility for countries where large families are still prevalent as well as a slight increase of fertility in several countries with fewer than two children per woman on average.

    Survival prospects are also projected to improve in all countries.

    Europe is the only place on earth that seems to grok the seriousness of the population problem. Fertility in all European countries is now below the level required for full replacement of the population in the long run (around 2.1 children per woman, on average), and in the majority of cases, fertility has been below the replacement level for several decades.

    Most politicians, big business and its supporting economists call for growth as a solution to all our problems. Apparently, they believe in perpetual growth, which is a mathematical absurdity on a finite planet. There must be limits. Science is demonstrating that human population and consumption in the United States and the world are already too large and are destroying the natural systems that support us. We must not simply stop population growth; we must turn it around.

    Just say “No!” to procreation. Get a vasectomy or tubal ligation. Or, if you feel you must procreate: stop at one. Or, if you just want to have a child to raise, adopt.

    Global population must decrease. That will not happen by changing national immigration policies. Global overpopulation has nothing to do with immigration. White nationalists, tribalists, religions, or secular groups advocating having more children are a threat to our future.

    Global population reduction will happen through these measures: sex education, family planning, widespread education about and adoption of contraception, free sterilization on demand, free abortion on demand, and universal education and empowerment of women.

    If you don’t think one of our presidential candidates favors these measures and the other doesn’t, you haven’t been paying attention.


  151. Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2016 at 2:47 pm #

    I’ve covered a number of Trump speeches (1, 2, 3, 4), but this was undoubtedly the most radical. Watch it. The speech is being reported as his “response” to sexual assault allegations, but it is so much more than that. Trump’s West Palm Beach speech mixes his own brand of civic nationalism with the A-B tested and winning rhetoric of his new ally, UKIP’s Nigel Farage, who led the anti-EU Brexit campaign and has spoken at Trump rallies. If it weren’t for the DR3ing at the end, it would be a national socialist speech, and I mean that unironically. Yet somehow Trump manages to channel Goebbels and “Detroit Republicanism” all at the same time. The absolute madman.

    I’m going to just bloc quote the most important pieces from the transcript here, because it’s almost unprecedented in its militancy and vitriol for the luegenpresse and the brahmins:

    This election will determine whether we are a free nation or whether we have only the illusion of democracy, but are in fact controlled by a small handful of global special interests rigging the system, and our system is rigged. This is reality, you know it, they know it, I know it, and pretty much the whole world knows it. The establishment and their media enablers will control over this nation through means that are very well known. Anyone who challenges their control is deemed a sexist, a racist, a xenophobe, and morally deformed.

    They will attack you, they will slander you, they will seek to destroy your career and your family, they will seek to destroy everything about you, including your reputation. They will lie, lie, lie, and then again they will do worse than that, they will do whatever is necessary. The Clintons are criminals, remember that. They’re criminals.

    This man is 88% woke.

    Here, have more:

    I’ve seen first hand the corruption and the sickness that has taken over our politics. You’ve seen it and I’ve seen it and we’re all watching together.

    They knew they would throw every lie they could at me and my family and my loved ones. They knew they would stop at nothing to try to stop me. But I never knew, as bad as it would be, I never knew it would be this vile, that it would be this bad, that it would be this vicious.

    Nevertheless, I take all of these slings and arrows gladly for you. I take them for our movement so that we can have our country back.

    Our great civilization, here in America and across the civilized world has come upon a moment of reckoning. We’ve seen it in the United Kingdom, where they voted to liberate themselves from global government and global trade deal, and global immigration deals that have destroyed their sovereignty and have destroyed many of those nations. But, the central base of world political power is right here in America, and it is our corrupt political establishment that is the greatest power behind the efforts at radical globalization and the disenfranchisement of working people. Their financial resources are virtually unlimited, their political resources are unlimited, their media resources are unmatched, and most importantly, the depths of their immorality is absolutely unlimited.

    Can you picture the shvitzing that must be going on in some circles right now? I can, and it’s glorious. There is nothing more dangerous to world Skypery than a nationalist US-UK Axis. Maybe add France for good measure.

    Even more:

    This is our moment of reckoning as a society and as a civilization itself. I didn’t need to do this, folks, believe me — believe me. I built a great company, and I had a wonderful life. I could have enjoyed the fruits and benefits of years of successful business deals and businesses for myself and my family. Instead of going through this absolute horror show of lies, deceptions, malicious attacks — who would have thought? I’m doing it because this country has given me so much, and I feel so strongly that it’s my turn to give back to the country that I love.

    Many of my friends and many political experts warned me that this campaign would be a journey to hell. Said that. But they’re wrong. It will be a journey to heaven, because we will help so many people that are so desperately in need of help.

    In my former life I was in insider, as much as anybody else. And I knew what it’s like, and I still know what it’s like to be an insider. It’s not bad, it’s not bad. Now I’m being punished for leaving the special club and revealing to you the terrible things that are going on having to do with our country. Because I used to be part of the club, I’m the only one that can fix it. I’m doing this for the people and for the movement, and we will take back this country for you and we will make America great again.

    The corrupt establishment knows that we are a great threat to their criminal enterprise. They know that if we win their power is gone, and it’s returned to you, the people, will be. The dark clouds hanging over our government can be lifted and replaced with a bright future. But, it all depends on whether we let the corrupt media decide our future, or whether we let the American people decide our future.

    We’re hitting levels of Lightning and Sun that shouldn’t even be possible.

    The speech ends on a thunderous note:

    This election is about every man, woman and child in our country who deserves to live in safety, prosperity and peace, so true. We will rise above the lies, the smears, the ludicrous slanders from ludicrous and very, very dishonest reporters.

    We will vote for the country we want; we will vote for the future we want; we will vote for the politics we want; and we will vote to put this corrupt government cartel out of business and out of business immediately.

    We will vote for the special interests and say lots of luck but, you’re being voted out of power. They’ve betrayed our workers, they’ve betrayed our borders and, most of all, they’ve betrayed our freedoms. We will save our sovereign rights as a nation. We will end the politics of profit; we will end the rule of special interests; we will end the raiding of our jobs by other countries; we will end the total disenfranchisement of the American voter and the American worker. Our Independence Day is at hand, and it arrives finally on November 8th.

    Join me in taking back our country and creating a bright, glorious, and prosperous new future for our people. We will make America great again, and it will happen quickly.

    This is it. We’ve known since Trump’s performance in the second debate that he was going for the nuclear option. He doesn’t view the Clintons or the media or the establishment as sparring partners, but enemies of civilization. Moreover, he’s built upon his previous messianic rhetoric and combined it with UKIP-style populism, which has a proven electoral track record.

    Trump has dialed his aggression to 11. Perhaps he really is become Death, the destroyer of worlds. The shitlib kvetching about Trump’s dangerous rhetoric and war has finally been memed into reality. I believe there is finally a grain of truth to that narrative. And I don’t mean war with Russia, I mean war here. Listen to his narrative and then imagine how his millions of supporters, entire regions of the country, will feel if he loses.

    Don’t write it off as implausible. Maybe it’s time for another Bronze Age Collapse. No civilization is eternal, but the destruction layer will be remembered for millennia. The ancients had hubris; certainly the digitals do.

    Remember, most people in power right now are fratricidal lunatics. The hills they pick to die on are not rational. Or rather, they rationalize them based on an irrational ideology rooted in false consciousness. Same difference really.

    Risking global human annihilation to save Aleppo is unhinged, irrational behavior. Just one example of completely unjustifiable priorities. Mass migration is another one. So is White Genocide.

    Trump is combining NS narratives about international financial capitalism with the modern language of Nigel Farage and UKIP. Farage has winning rhetoric. He delivered Brexit, and beat the odds. It was an international upset. The (((usual suspects))) were livid.

    The stuff Trump is saying must be setting off alarms. He is a bull in a judaica shop. And I would not be surprised if he knows a lot more than he lets on. I think we are a lot closer to getting a nationalist deep state than I originally imagined. Trump won’t go this hard to win and then roll the dice on democracy in 4-8 years. Not going to happen, folks.

    “This is a struggle for the survival of our nation. And this will be our last chance to save it on, on November 8th, remember that.”

    Trump cannot walk back his anti-globalism. This is him going nuclear on the enemy, which he has named in all but (((ethnicity))). We are going to have to get very tough and very smart folks. Believe me. Casting a vote for Trump is now a vote for a political revolution. This isn’t a friendly joust any more. He’s setting the stage for himself to be the leader of the resistance if he loses. Trump doesn’t go away in November. His base doesn’t go away in November. At least 40% of the electorate will have cast their ballot for him.

    If he wins, the leftist chimping will be the precursor for crackdowns and possibly state of emergencies.

    Trump doesn’t view the Clintons or the media or the establishment as sparring partners, but enemies of civilization. The stakes haven’t been this high since 1860.

    Pay attention to the Jewish press the next couple of days. Or just ordinary news really. These people will come out of the woodwork to tell us that this time, this time they really mean it, they really really mean, that Donald J. Trump is Literally Hitler™.

    And how do (((we))) know?

    Well he said a lot of bad things about globalism, the media, the banks, and lobbyists; and those are all very J—


    • wpa_ccc October 14, 2016 at 3:13 pm #

      I agree with Trump when he says: “We will vote for the country we want”

      What puzzles me is how so many CFNers who have preached how there isn’t a “dime’s worth of difference” between the parties, how voting is a waste of effort, seem to now believe Trump is our new savior.

      There is a difference between red and blue. Trump knows it. I know it. Apparently, now even janos knows it. This contest will be settled at the ballot box, nonviolently.

      There will be no clash of civilizations, no end of civilization. There will be no race war.

      There will be a victory celebration for the first woman president in the history of the United States, full of loving embraces and tears of joy.

      I’m planning on voting Nov. 8, then dancing all night long to celebrate Hillary’s victory… a victory for women, children, and families.

    • wpa_ccc October 14, 2016 at 3:17 pm #

      “This man is 88% woke.”

      The man did not write the speech. He read it.

      The man is 88% a puppet of his new Breitbart boss, Stephen Bannon.

      • Q. Shtik October 14, 2016 at 5:26 pm #

        “This man is 88% woke.”


        Who, Herman?

    • dannyboy October 14, 2016 at 4:13 pm #

      “Trump manages to channel Goebbels”

      then why doesn’t he come out and say it?

      because he’s a Deceiver, living only for himself.

    • Q. Shtik October 14, 2016 at 5:03 pm #

      He is a bull in a judaica shop.- Janos


      Very funny. Best line of your long post. Reminds me of a line from back in the day: “He walked in like a German General into a Jewish bagel shop.”

      • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2016 at 7:19 pm #

        I wish I had written this, but it’s someone called Atlantic Centurion. Did you read Publius’ articles from the Claremont Institute? The Trump Movement and White Nationalism as a whole now has great depth of talent as far as writers and propagandists. We’re even starting to get beautiful women. Maybe someday the writers will even be able to write under their own names….


        • Elrond Hubbard October 15, 2016 at 12:46 pm #

          In a land as racist as the USA, making racism a matter of shame is a great and necessary, albeit incomplete, achievement.

          Let’s not stop now. We all need to keep doing our part to show up Janos and his ilk for what they are.

        • dannyboy October 15, 2016 at 3:14 pm #

          “We’re even starting to get beautiful women.”


    • elysianfield October 14, 2016 at 5:53 pm #

      Thank you for the post.

      ” Casting a vote for Trump is now a vote for a political revolution”

      It always was a vote for political revolution…who said that a vote for Trump was “sanctioned anarchy”?

  152. wpa_ccc October 14, 2016 at 3:04 pm #

    Like all leaders who believe they embody their nation, Donald Trump wants you to know that he is suffering ? that he is happy to suffer ? for the good of the common folk. He will bleed to save them, you, us, from corruption and doom.

    Echoing the histrionic cries of ego-driven autocrats through the ages, from Julius Caesar to the Fascists of 20th-century Europe, Trump declared on Thursday during a speech in West Palm Beach, Florida, that a criminal conspiracy was out to destroy him.

    “I take all the slings and arrows gladly for you,” he said, for the sake of “our great civilization.”

    Indeed, Trump said, if he doesn’t win in November, America as we know it will cease to exist.

    “This is a struggle for the survival of our nation, believe me,” he said. “And this will be our last chance to save it.”

    Just like Jesus on the cross, Trump wants you to know his sacrifice is voluntary… I mean, he could have chosen to sit it out. But he is a good billionaire, probably the only one JiminFlorida will not kill in his jihad.

    “I didn’t need to do this, folks,” Trump said, toward the end of his telepromptered address. “I could have enjoyed the fruits and benefits of years of successful business deals and businesses … I’m doing it because this country has given me so much, and I feel so strongly that it’s my turn to give back to the country that I love.”

    Friends and advisers had told Trump that this campaign “would be a journey to hell,” he said. But he saw it instead as a “journey to heaven” ? a chance for him to abandon his “former life” as an “insider” and lay bare the evils of the club he once belonged to.

    This is the Christian fairy tale in new clothes, and millions are falling for it, including Q. Suffer on, dudes.

    • Q. Shtik October 14, 2016 at 5:43 pm #

      “I take all the slings and arrows gladly for you,”


      Written by a small team of Lit majors.

      I like it better than “nattering nabobs of negativism.”

      What do you think? Does Donald know he was quoting from Shakespeare?

  153. Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2016 at 3:18 pm #

    Why war with Russia? Because they want Russia back. All but one of the major Oligarchs who pillaged the country were Jews. Putin pretended to be with them, and then betrayed and toppled them. It’s basically that simple: they want Russia back and of course want revenge on Putin. And finally, they don’t want the Fascist revolution spreading the rest of Eastern Europe and beyond.

    Finc will give you many words, but never any such clarity on the big picture.


    • beantownbill. October 14, 2016 at 3:44 pm #

      Believe it or not, Jews don’t make the world go around. The world doesn’t revolve

      • beantownbill. October 14, 2016 at 3:56 pm #

        Anyway, the world doesn’t revolve around us. Jews are so important in your life, but it is an unhealthy obsession. Try to take up a more beneficial hobby, like stamp collecting.

        Also, in physics, things go from high pressure to low pressure. Following natural law, high-pressure countries will see an outflow into low-pressure countries. This means that mass immigration into the US from 3rd world areas is inevitable. Sure, we can close our borders and prevent most inflow, but just as water seeks its own level, 3rd world refugees will end up somewhere in 1st world countries.

        I may not necessarily like this, but the issue isn’t political, it’s basic mathematics: overpopulation with finite resources.

        • dannyboy October 14, 2016 at 4:16 pm #

          can’t take Jews away from janos

          then his tragedy is his

        • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2016 at 7:26 pm #

          Israel doesn’t accept that. Why should we? Entropy is to be fought. Life itself is a struggle against it and as Buddha said, all life is a struggle of some kind.

          There is no reason, I repeat NO reason that African Negroes should be allowed out of Africa to breed the rest of the Human Race out of existence. That’s a criminal enterprise encouraged by the Dark Powers of this World – not only Jews but their Elite Allies. But Jews are never any slouches when it comes to this kind of thing – as you well know. All but one of the great Russian Oligarchs was Jewish. And when this was pointed out, the classic Jewish response was, “So? Whose the other guy?” You expect to do this kind of thing and you are proud of it. There was a popular Israeli TV show about them.

  154. pequiste October 14, 2016 at 3:25 pm #

    Elysianfield sez:

    “Communism has a production problem,
    Capitalism a problem of distribution….”

    Reminds me of a bitter and ironic interrogative and rejoinder a friend from the former Soviet Union would use:

    What is the difference between Communism and Capitalism?

    Under Communism there is nothing for sale; under Capitalism everything is for sale.

    And a variation – What is the difference between Communism and Capitalism?:

    Under Capitalism, if it is not nailed down, it will be stolen; under Communism it has to be welded.

  155. Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2016 at 3:27 pm #

    Let’s be clear: the Kaiser said, I don’t want war, just victory. As Thomas A Kempis said, “Men say they want peace, but they don’t love the things that make for peace.” Victoria Nuland doesn’t want war – she thinks that the New World Order can do a color revolution on them a la Ukraine. She’s terribly wrong: the Putin regime is much stronger than that and they are watching. And how did even the Ukraine revolution go?

    On the same mental thread but further up: It’s not that Mumford and Burkhardt wanted the rise of the Terrible Simplifiers, but that they were inevitable when men refused to act. How did the corruption get this far? Because men valued safety, prosperity, and respectability before all. So now a Trump arises at the 11th hour – and we dare criticize him for his personal deficits? What the hell! Get behind him and be thankful that Heaven hasn’t abandoned us all entirely. Be humble – we have much to be humble about, do we not? And of course, don’t let your humility be used against you by the Mau Mau’s and the Devils of the Left. Nothing is worse than being lectured about morality by people who don’t have any.

    • Buck Stud October 14, 2016 at 4:12 pm #

      Have you seen Canelo Alvarez? He claims “Los San Patricios” lineage and looking at him, who could doubt it?

      Of course, he probably also rea