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When I wrote The Long Emergency nearly twenty years ago, I never thought that, once it got going, our government would work so hard to make it worse. My theory then was just that government would become increasingly bloated, ineffectual, impotent, and uncomprehending of the forces converging to undermine our advanced techno-industrial societies. What I didn’t imagine was that government would bring such ostentatious stupidity to all that.
Obviously, there was some recognition that ominous changes are coming down. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have heard so much chatter about alt energy, “sustainable growth,” “green” this-and-that. But the chatter was more symptomatic of wishful thinking for at least a couple of reasons: 1) mostly it ignored the laws of physics, despite the fact that so many people involved in enterprises such as wind and solar energy were science-and-tech mavens; and 2) there was a dumb assumption that the general shape and scale of daily life would remain as it had been — in other words, that we could still run suburbia, the giant cities, Disney World, WalMart, the US military, and the Interstate highway system just the way they were already set-up, only by other means than oil and gas.
Now, we’re finding out the hard way how much daily life must change, and is changing, and how disorderly that process is in every way from the imperative personal adjustments to our spiritual attitudes about them. As with so many things in history, this disorder expresses itself strangely, even prankishly, as if God were a practical joker. Who would’ve imagined that our politics would become so deranged? That there would be battles over teaching oral sex in the fifth-grade? That the CDC would keep pushing vaccines that obviously don’t work (and that so many people would still take them)? That stealing stuff under a thousand dollars in value wouldn’t merit prosecution? That riots featuring arson and looting are “mostly peaceful?” That we’d send $50-billion halfway around the world to defend the borders of another country while ignoring the defense of our own borders? That financially beset Americans would spend their dwindling spare cash on… tattoos?
Notice that all of these strange behaviors have really nothing to do with making practical adjustments to the way we live. The collective psychology of all this is bizarre. Of course, mass formation psychosis accounts for a lot of it. Groups of people under duress, suffering from loneliness, purposelessness, helplessness, and anxiety will fall into coordinated thought-and-action if presented with some object or someone to fixate their ill feelings upon.
Donald Trump was such an object. He galvanized about half the country into an intoxicated fury aimed at destroying him. It actually managed to drive him off the scene via a fraud-laced election which many in-power (local officials, judges) deemed a means justifying the desired end. That success reinforced their mass formation psychosis. Alas, having succeeded against Mr. Trump, they were left without a galvanizing object to focus on. So, they adopted one of the devices of Trump-riddance, Covid-19, as the next object of all their distress and anxiety, adopting the mRNA vaccinations as their next savior du jour.
Unfortunately, the vaccination scheme has gone very much awry, and now millions face a future with damaged immune systems. The horror of that is too awful to comprehend, especially by government, which caused the problem in the first place and can’t possibly admit it without demolishing its legitimacy… so it presses on stupidly and heinously with the vaccine program. Already all-causes deaths are substantially up, and in time the recognition of how-and-why this happened will reach a point of criticality.
It will be too obvious to ignore. But by that time (probably not far away), the economy will be so wrecked, the people of America so deranged, and our circumstances so desperate, that the government will resort to a supremely stupid act of national suicide, say, starting a nuclear war. The government under “Joe Biden” seems perfectly disposed to that possible outcome. Which brings us to the spiritual part of the story: those unused to consorting with alleged “higher powers” might consider getting used to prayer.
Lately, a new derangement is overtaking Western Civ, for the excellent reason that Western Civ gave birth to techno industrial societies and is now first to undergo the alarming demise of that system. I speak of the World Economic Forum (under one Klaus Schwab) and its stated ambition to Build Back Better — based on its unstated premise that the current system must be nudged to its death sooner rather than later, and on-purpose. All the governments of Western Civ nations seem coordinated on this.
But it’s not going to happen as Mr. Schwab and his followers hoped, for at least a couple of reasons. First, as already stated, God is a prankster and likes to throw knuckleballs at the human race. Anyway, the “better” that Mr. Schwab expects is an ultra-techno-industrial “trans-human” scheme that is unlikely to come about if the support system of the older techno-industrial system is no longer available to support it. As currently conceived, BBB depends on electric power, and that is one of the major sub-systems of our system that already looks like it’s going janky.
You get the idea, I’m sure, so I’ll cut to the chase for now. About a year ago I had my French easel set up on a country road nearby and was busy painting a motif at-hand when along came a horse-drawn wagon filled with four men in severe black-and-white clothing, wearing beards. They were apparently a bit surprised by the strange sight of me painting a picture and they stopped to chat. They were Amish and had lately moved to the county from down in Pennsylvania, which was running out of farmland for their fruitful people. Not a half-hour later a second horse-drawn wagon passed by. I admit, the incident gave me a thrill — not just the sensory pleasure of the horses’ ripe animal smell, and the gentle rhythm of their clip-clopping along. But since I had lately been writing a bunch of novels about life in a post-economic collapse town like my own (the World Made by Hand series), I enjoyed the strange delight of being transported briefly into a scene of my own imagining — the prequel of my own books.
Many more Amish are landing in the county these days. I hear they go around to the failing or inactive farms with bundles of cash and make an offer, just like that. Evidently the method works. It’s given me a business idea: to start an Amish skills school, buy a few acres with a barn and hire some Amish men to teach all us non-Amish how to do a few things that might be good to know in the years ahead, like how to harness horses to a cart or a mule to a plow. (The Amish like to make a bit of cash-money when they can.) That’s my idea of how to build back better. What do you think?
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That monkey pox looks suspiciously EXACTLY like the rash many people get from the covid vaxx. Probably due to the fact that the rash IS monkey pox.
That’s how you know the shot is working, it gives you monkey pox.
I’ve also read that what they are caling monkeypox is shingles, which the vaxx is also known to cause. In any case, I don’t know how they think they are going to be able to gin up suffricient panic about “monkeypox” in time to save their collective asses in the coming election. I think they might find the populace has become a bit jaded and weary of things like those convenient lockdowns. They might have compliance issues, particularly among the young.
Whatever it is, a damn mask isn’t going to stop it. Locking down over an STD 9which is what real monkey pox is) is nuts.
We only have the word of the same people who have been lying all along, that there are suddenly all these sick people in all these different countries.
I hope you’re right because my wife and I have been faithful to each other, so if it is an STD, I shouldn’t have to be too concerned.
A map that I saw showed only a very few in each country.
Looked to me like an attempt to do a replay of the covid numbers panic and obsession with supposedly scarly maps. But the actual numbers were totally underwhelming.
Like, in one country, 2.
In another, 13 (OMG OMG).
The damage is already been done.
If you have taken the shots, the stuff is in you, and the more boosters you take, the quicker the consequences will appear, seems to be the consensus of the learned ones. The learned ones that oppose the Vax.
Secondly, do anyone believe that ‘Powers that be’ will stop now? They have the time window now to execute their agenda. Sooner or later the sleeping populace will wake up and revolt. Then it’s game over for them, and they know it. Their time is short, and they are on ferocious quest to subdue the planet. They won’t stop until someone stop them. Will you…
I had shingles (herpes zoster) once, about 3 or 4 years ago. It was near my eye and I was concerned about it getting into the eye and ruining it, but it didn’t happen. Anyway, the shingles I had didn’t look anything like the pictures I’ve seen of monkeypox.
It’s possible some people get shingles from the vaxx, and some get the monkey pox.
Notice the renewed emphasis on AIDS testing in the MSM?
I got shingles on my roof. Still there.
Better than wild monkeys on the roof cursing a pox upon thine house.
Don’t know where that last bit came from. 🙂
As somebody said (here?)
Is it MonkeyPox already?
I’ve still got my Ukraine Decorations up!
Ha ha ha!!
Seems to affect almost only those who practice sodomy. That’s something, of course, that the MSM will never say.
Since they are sodomites???
We all know what went on at Sodom. I wonder what went on at Gomorrah. Something so bad it must remain forever unspoken? At least I’ve never heard of anyone who got “gomorrized”. But I’m sure if it happened to you it would not soon be forgotten.
They were probably anally raping young children, killing them then drinking their blood. Sort of like what happens on any Saturday night in the DC suburbs.
I heard that was code for missionary position.
I think you could catch Gomorrarea.
Yep. Reminds me of when they had all the phony photos of bodies in NYC and Bergamo as well as the video reels of people in Wuhan just dying in the street.
I still encourage people to go back and watch the Wuhan reels. Utter comedy. Many have also been removed from the web. Understandably.
Deflect much? Homosexual sex (anal sex) is the reason, no probably about it…
I think it’s a good idea… gee, this is the second time in a row
I’ve had to reset my password
Jim,
You keep bringing up serious points aimed at what needs to be done to shape our future as a consequence of trusting incompetent self-serving leaders. Your audience seems incapable of constructive discussion on those topics. They prefer to trade jokes and bitches about the current state of affairs with cute phrases to impress each other.
I farmed with, and raised draft horses for many years. Profit was never even part of my motive. Farming with horses taught me a few things that should be considered by anyone venturing into that activity. horses require much more care every day than tractors. They also require much more manual labor and common sense than most people today can muster. For those that do venture into horse powered farming many will find it a life style filled with quiet satisfaction. You have a timely idea that needs serious consideration. I think Amish teachers are the best way to introduce new farmers to a lower cost means of producing crops. My first draft horse in 1972 cost me $500. My new tractor this year cost $60,000.
In a phone call from a friend that I just had it was noted that we certainly must be near the end when Jim Kunstler starts talking about God and spirituality which I had not considered when I read today’s post. Oh boy, here we go.
Jim’s comment on tattoos as the choice de jour of the tribe members today really struck home for me as I watch my teenage daughter come home with a new one every once and a while, a habit I cannot stop what with Mommy’s full approval (not that my wife has any or we would not have gotten together twenty some odd years ago).
Thank you, James, for shining the light on Herr Cockroach Schwab, the resurrected Adolph Hitler who is apparently working a global genocide plan rather than the puny effort that Dolph put out there. Let us hope that he is ferreted out by someone who cares, or we may have to wait until Jesus Himself returns to clean up the mess.
One item I would like to add to today’s post is that of the Tiger at our back door, the tiger that is clearly working with the Bear at the front door…China. I see that Dopey Joe has professed to be committed to sending US troops to defend Taiwan, a slick move by that demented, dementia riddled old bastard. Start a real, two front war with the biggest, baddest motherfuckers you can find and then forget that you did it so your conscience is clean. Not that Dopey Joe HAS a conscious. Besides anger and stupidity, Dopey Joe got nuthin’. Let us hope that he sends the real fighting troops to that battle so that the pregnant pilots and transgender super soldiers can remain home to protect the homeland, har, har, har.
That brings up an interesting point, you know how Germany had the Fatherland and the Russians call theirs Mother Russia? How come we call America the Homeland? Seems a bit outdated, maybe we should consider adopting the title of SheHeITland, or SHIT for short. Dopey Joe should like that since he is the biggest turd on the block. .
One of the best posts ever here, Walter
i 2nd that on Walter–my little fantasy is the interstates go empty except for trucks in convoys traveling the right lane escorted by military driving maybe 45 mph–us who dare will have the rest of the road to ourselves–When the first lock down in LA happened the freeways were very empty–my thought was to lock it down even more-they said 30/40 percent of all traffic was going nowhere,just driving around because they got laid off from work–gas at 20 bucks a gallon would be great–the roads will be empty..20 percent or so of al truckers have quit in the last 2 years–another 50 percent will be awesome–sorry jim,my family has two big cattle ranches with unlimited water and a mostly secure area–but we still wonder if we can defend them when the wheels come off–lots of family,friends so we will try–i bought a MRAP vehicle just for the hell of it–it is fun and causes a lot of attention
Motherland, Fatherland. What gender is a country? Maybe there are many possibilities and we’ve chosen to be some kind of trannyland. I just remember that when I was in fifth grade they taught oral hygiene, not oral sex.
But I do believe we can benefit from the Amish and learning their ways. And they might benefit from some protection when things get dicey.
Yes, indeed and thank you for reminding me to give our host a Big Thumbs Up for his idea. Go for it Jim, I might even make a trip up to check out the place if you do it and the shooting hasn’t started yet. Well done my friend.
I’m a Farrier, here in California and have rebuilt many Farms and Barns. Now there falling apart and no one uses them. The land is too expensive to flip or develop. It’s all empty, upside down in debt and frozen like a statue. They can’t even run a McDonanlds in these areas now because they turn into crime zones. McGangsta is the default setting and no one else can afford to do business.
Nancy Pelosi, Grandma Gangsta of the Brothers has Proven her Anarchy in Politics for decades.
Granny Magic!
Lou
I’m in Cali too have barns use them and keep them maintained. Not cheap.
But you’re right. Barns come down due to lack of use, and no purpose. Only wealthy,interested preservationists, and back to the land types(with $$$) are buying these properties. If the Amish and Mennonites can afford these properties then they should own them and restore their glory.
The “Tiger” was made in USA, but the US elites.
The “Bear” was not, and is not, a threat to the US.
But the US is a threat to the Bear. Hence the Bear has been pushed to look to the Tiger for support.
As for JHK’s comments, regardless of how intelligent, garbage in/garbage out, most Americans in 2022 are generally ignorant.
They lack knowledge of where food comes from (“the supermarket”), how things are made, and basic history. So many are easily duped. Not most, perhaps, but enough.
So the elite/Deep State/etc who are masters at obfuscation are basically “mind-f–king” the dazed public. To prevent the public from eventually figuring out we are being played by one “crisis”, just conjure, or create another.
How long can this continue? We will find out.
Don’t be a transphobe, Walter B. Everyone knows the correct term is now “Personland”.
Zombieland more likely. U assure you that I have no fear of any of these movements, nor will I give any of them any grief for their choice for clearly that are suffering enough already. Recruiting young children for sexual purposes is a vile, demonic pursuit, but how can I fight it when so many Americans embrace the concept? And of course, those who profit from sexual trafficking gather so much money and power that they are mostly untouchable. Jeffrey Epstein ring any bells? Or any of those who are suicided once they are outed? Nope America is on a one way ride to hell and we are one stop away from the final destination. .
They/ThemLand.
Maybe Ze-land, but the kiwis have already taken that one.
The Germans used “homeland,” too. Plenty of old propaganda posters with Heimat plastered all over them.
Does Heimat refer to the whole country?
I think of Heimat as referring to one’s own region.
The family of a friend of mine in Bavaria came from the Sudetenland, and they had photos around labeled “die geliebte Heimat.”
Another friend here, who was born in Ostpreussen, south of Koenigsberg, also has books (I think Merian) celebrating HIS geliebte Heimat.
Wouldn’t the whole country (which is of course of fairly recent and bumpy origin) be das Vaterland?
Heimatland and Vaterland refer to the country (though Vaterland isn’t used anymore). Heimat can be a region, city or country, it’s more of an emotional expression of where you feel your home is.
“Die deutsche Heimat.” Like many words, its meaning can also vary by context.
“Heimisch” is a related adjective that, for example, can refer to things that are local or to the country in general. “Heimische Früchte”
Schwab is definitely NOT Hitler…the polar opposite, in fact.
Please explain the variations of fascism
I’ll judge Schwab by his fruits. If his plans come to fruition, he’ll make Hitler seem like Mother Teresa.
Yep, that “homeland security” name for an executive department is just jarring. I suspect that it came from`the Mossad operatives who were so influential during the Jug-eared Wonder’s first term.
I had never hear an American use the word “homeland” before that department was created.
“I had never hear an American use the word “homeland” before that department was created.”
Me, neither, and it sure freaked me out.
A great example of preprogramming people in a general sense of anxiety with the introduction and repetition of a new, creepy word.
The word immediately conjures up an image of “defending the Homeland.”
From what???
The Shrub used Tom Ridge to sell a word to name an executive branch department no one had ever used here in the US in such a manner.
Jim’s post today is right on target – who would have ever thought the government response to overshoot would be as abysmal as this? I can say looking over the job postings for “climate change”, most are concerned with the grift of securing funding. It’s difficult to stay positive.
As for the Amish skills school, I think it has some merit. I’ll know we’ve turned the corner in backing away from the cliff when the government comes out with a “family farm” program to help more of us return to an enjoyable, lower carbon footprint way of living – though it involves more sweat, and no social media.
Schwab gets excited in opening address at Davos 2022:
“Also be clear. Ze future is not just happening. Ze future is built by us!”
He’s probably got the tune of “Tomorrow Belongs to Me” (Cabaret, 1972) stuck in his head.
To our host,
Great idea!
Can I come live on the new farm and be “the nurse”? I still have my New York license!
Abbybwood
You could be “the Hot Lips of the Hudson”. Sorry, just remembering MASH.
The mask is off. Our government is made up of serial grifters who also happen to be sexually perverted (and often pedophile) pathological narcissists who have figured out we’re running out of energy and with it food and the only way to survive is to kill a lot of us. We’re in the middle of the existential struggle of our times. I wish my neighbors would fucking wake up. Then again, maybe not.
You are assuming all those neighbors are folks you want to deal with. The American people have been converted to the deviated gimme folks you abhor by the powers in DC. They are very close to having their policies locked in with the vote.
I always knew there was corruption, stupidity, and perversion in government, but it seems to me now that it’s the rule rather than the exception.
Not only the rule Beryl, but an accepted method of governance by a general public dumbed down and distracted to the point of uselessness. And what do you do with something once it has become useless? Yup, you get rid of it, clearly the plan being implemented right now.
@ Beryl:
That’s what government is FOR.
Luckily, Liz, history shows that only a relatively small number of people need to be awoke to sort things out.
Sorry – “awake”
Unfortunately, it’s also true that only a relatively small number of people need to be woke in order to ruin everything – which I believe is what we’ve seen all too clearly recently. I recall in the remote past watching one of those Alastair Cooke introductions to Masterpiece Theatre. It was a series about the suffragettes, and he remarked that they had almost no support at all when they were agitating for the vote. Nevertheless, their shenanigans and disruptions won the day.
Not saying that women shouldn’t have the vote, merely that lawlessness by a small number of people with an idea that’s anathema to the average person tends to overcome due to the inertia of that same average person. People who abide by the law and don’t wreck things when they don’t get their way also tend to put up with a lot before they get riled up enough to do something about it, by which time it’s too late.
Liz, more accurately, they have figured out that they need to create shortages of food, fuel and energy. Shortages and supply chain problems are being created by government psychopaths as a means of taking over everything that they can.
I really liked this, from above:
“Notice that that all of these strange behaviors have really nothing to with making practical adjustments to the way we live. The collective psychology of all this is bizarre. Of course, mass formation psychosis accounts for a lot of it. Groups under duress, suffering from loneliness, purposelessness, helplessness, and anxiety will fall into coordinated thought-and-action if presented with some object or someone to fixate their ill feelings upon.”
This article reminds me of something I read about the Millerites, and how they dealt with the end of the world not happening as scheduled thru several different predictions. Then, the cognitive dissonance study done in the late 50’s on the UFO cult, when the Midwest did not flood, and the aliens cameth not. Those groups did not make practical adjustments.
I think something akin to that will happen just like in the article above, and there will be a failure to get REAL by our leaders. Meanwhile, down here in Flyover Country, there is already a stirring of fear.
“getting used to prayer” . . . . . Well, religious belief does well in times of extreme anxiety. Wonder why this is true? Could be it’s just a straw in the wind or could be there is actually something real, true and good about belief in God who cares for His creation.
As long as God is not angry with the direction that his flock is following. The US is no longer his “pride and joy”, I am not so sure He is on our side.
I would argue the United States was never his pride and joy or any other country for that matter.
I think maybe religion works because religions tend to go back to the basics of life – don’t lie, cheat or steal – be fruitful and multiply, and try to behave yourself.
I think maybe when a nation spends millions to shave its pubic hair, that it has misplaced priorities.
What are the outcomes of the religious impulse?
At its best, religion as a moderating influence on the bat-shit crazy excesses that human beings are prone to; at its worst, it is used to rationalize and justify those same excesses.
You could say that about anything that humans adopt as a guiding principle, except that in the case of religion (at least, the Judeo-Christian kind) the moderating influence vastly raised the level of culture and civilization.
There is nothing we humans do that we cannot figure out a way to pervert or misuse, but the message of the New Testament requires a special effort (or else never having read it) to use for the justification of excesses.
And have itself tattoo’d, to boot.
Tattoo parlors must be a booming business in the Ukraine.
I think Jim is on to a winner here. Prayer and thinking more about God are probably our only hope at the moment. Going Amish is a nice thought (apart from those itchy beards), but the Amish can only do their stuff because they are allowed to. If we tried it, think Ruby Ridge and Waco.
We CFNers maybe, we Americans – no way.
I’m currently sporting a hobo beard, or Amish, if you like. Mine, at least, ain’t itchy one little bit. Amazing how nature takes care of us, eh?
Maybe not itchy to you . . . !!
“. . .the Amish can only do their stuff because they are allowed to . . .”
I’ve thought a good bit about this. They’re admirable in many ways and (except for their pacifism) well equipped to survive what’s coming without even significantly altering their way of life.
Private schools, if they’re academically rigorous, can produce people who are both civilized and capable. But they’re dependent on being able to expel those who are determinedly feral or otherwise unable to benefit from a good education. Those are ejected into the wider world, where we have to find a way to deal with them.
This is how every successful entity in this world once worked, and is the only way to produce anything worthwhile. Those who cannot or will not benefit the company, the private school, the Amish culture, the clergy, were removed and sent back into a kind of human slush pile from which they had to find their way. This used to work really well, and still does work for those (like the Amish) who are willing to eject someone.
But we’ve increasingly seen that these same entities are demonized for employing this sifting process, and it’s seen as “unfair” – so we have kids accepted into college who can’t add or read, corporations full of woke dimwits who undermine the purpose of the company and produce ideological propaganda instead of any product, churches full of clergy who don’t believe in God or in the tenets of any religion, etc. To exclude them would be “unfair”. They then proceed, predictably, to destroy from within through a combination of incompetence and ideological mania.
To get back to the Amish – they don’t do infant baptism because they believe you have a right to choose not to be one of them. You decide at the age of 16 or so, and if you don’t want to belong and to abide by their particular rules and beliefs, you’re out and it’s your choice. They don’t allow you to stay and eat away at their culture like termites. That’s why they’re still Amish, and it’s also why any culture, religion, country, corporation, that wants to survive, will have to learn to draw lines and stick to them.
Amen.
I gave up being a Christian because of the inherent absurdities and contradictions. However, I still firmly believe in God. Oddly enough, it’s science – often seen as the great enemy of religious belief – that seems to give the strongest proof of existence of some kind of creative force behind the universe. I also studied a lot about NDEs – evidence of something beyond that is increasingly hard to refute. We shall all find out for sure one of these days!
I left denominationalism, but since I am the church [ the called-out ] I will not leave my brethren.
Do you go to any kind of church or group, MD, or do you just do your own thing?
I don’t believe in God or any gods at all. Never really have. But I definitely “believe” in the so-called god gene. That is, humans have a need – we’re “wired” to “know, deep-down” that there’s an as-yet unrevealed/undiscovered dimension/force that truly underpins all of existence. And to deny it, a la Sam Harris/Richard Dawkins is supremely foolish.
JTinMD: I respect your views. It’s something we all have to decide for ourselves. My only caveat would be: if no God, why a God gene? If it’s just a trick to help us survive and avoid total despair, why make us humans at all? Interesting questions!
Absolutely. I left christinsanity behind years ago and reconnected to the Gods of my North European Folk.
If there is a Supreme Being (I believe there is) there is only ONE…get real. You thing many Supreme Beings could get along and that there wouldn’t be cross-dimensional impacts on our physical plane if there were many struggling for control? Marvel movies are not realistic.
“I gave up being a Christian because of the inherent absurdities and contradictions.”
Such as?
inherent absurdities and contradictions.”
Such as? – Ricky
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Well, let’s start with Jesus’s Mom being a virgin. Cut me a friggin’ break.
And she couldn’t have been because? …
Do you think the Creator God has to have sex to make a child?
Who was Adam’s [ or Eve’s ] mother?
Okay, now I don’t know how many people I’m debating the issue with.
Fine.
I don’t think the “Creator God” HAS TO do anything at all.
What He does, and how He does it, is completely up to Him and no one else.
That said, the former Christians faction here has made two arguments (i.e. examples of “inherent absurdities and contradictions”):
1. Virgin Mary couldn’t have been a virgin.
2. According to “ye Christians,” the “Creator God” had sex in order to make a child, and that’s a lie, because He didn’t have to.
Apart from the fact that, according to the Bible, there was no coitus involved in the matter:
Am I right to assume that those two points would be enough for anyone “to give up being a Christian”?
“I don’t think the “Creator God” HAS TO do anything at all.”
He has to keep His promises [ Word ].
“Am I right to assume that those two points would be enough for anyone “to give up being a Christian”?”
No.
These two points [ along with walking on water ] are adequate for someone looking for an excuse to give up.
Joseph must have wondered who knocked up his fiancé
all of it–bunch of homeless dudes who could write(very rare for thousands of years) wrote the bile,er,bible–god has never read it,never will,word of men,not god–god is way way above a humans infantile,petty,puny,immature world,way above–god does not think like us,act like us,speak like us stupid humans–maybe in 2000 more years we will know more of the mind of god being as we are like little 2 year olds in the spiritual world but god still loves his 2 year olds….
Ricky: I couldn’t reconcile the early Jewish Jesus of the first gospel (actually, Mark, not Matthew), where he basically came to drag Judaism back to its roots and away from the legalist “I’m good because I have larger phylacteries” legalism of the pharisees, and the “Paulianity” of Paul where a whole lot of mystical things that Jesus never talked about such as sacrificial blood sacrifices, “grace” and mere belief over doing good things too priority. I came to believe that Jesus was wholly Jewish and never meant to start a new religion. People like Paul brought in a whole level of mythification that just wasn’t there in the original. Anyway, that’s my view and I’m happy to hear other opinions.
Hereward: Except for saying that the new wine (teachings) would split the old wineskin (religion) and thus required a new wineskin (Christianity).
Also this little one: Soon they will drive you out of the synagogues and considered killing you a good deed.
So you’re wrong. Time to get mad at me, right?
I think that religion is calming because it gives people a sense that there is someone in charge and everything will work out.
Also, most people have an innate sense of justice (as do most animals, try petting just one dog) and they want to feel that the criminals we see prospering here on Earth will someday just their just rewards in Hell.
“Just rewards” should mean restoring the lawful order. Being confined to an everlasting bbq pit because of a transgression that might last only minutes would not be just.
This idea comes from paganism which comes from beings in rebellion to the Creator.
Interesting.
All I know is that the religious people I know firmly believe that the wicked will pay in the next life.
And that gives them comfort.
Maybe the pagans had the same need. Maybe that is the God Gene.
Fantastic idea, but I wonder how many twenty- and thirty-somethings would be interested…it kinda sounds like work…?
You’d probably be overwhelmed by old farts like me signing up, which would be great, except for our limited shelf life.
Gimmes have little skills and less resolve. Their adverse on to work is famous.
But what happens when they have no choice. Starve? Learn or fight?
Some of them will learn. Work is good. Not everything needs to be a fight.
I wonder how much of that blame belongs to the older generation that failed to teach their off-spring the value of working, planting a garden rather than running to the nearest supermarket or even bothering to buy produce during the growing season, for I’ll bet you 100 to 1 that even few of the older generation do any of the above but condemn those that they think are the culprits.
. Far too many young women today can’t cook can’t bake can’t do much of anything and who’s fault is that but the mothers who can’t do it either because it takes too much time and too much effort to learn, the fathers are too busy on the golf course to install much of anything in their offspring oh they will learn on their own I made mine they have to make theirs too.
I recently went to a local farm in Escondido called the Bates Nut farm.
They often host events to learn how to raise livestock, poultry or farming techniques.
The event I went to was a poultry event that at least 10,000 people went to on the day of the event.
It was mostly vendors selling chicks and poultry supplies but it was neat to see so many people invested in Chickens.
They had a rooster that was going to be 3 feet tall.
He was as tall as a turkey at 8 months old.
https://batesnutfarm.biz/p-9224-events.html
There’s a Sheep & Wool Festival in Dutchess County, N.Y.
I notice they are starting to bill it as a “family festival” now. When I went I was surprised to see how much of “something for everyone” there was at something you’d think was specific to people who were into farming.
I went because I had a friend who was into various fiber arts. It was nice to see how country life and culture were alive and well.
A lot of these outdoor events were for some insane reason shut down due to covid, the people who want to see our lives destroyed don’t even have to ask the local authorities to do it for them, they volunteer.
I went to a Timber-framing week long class at Hancock Shaker Village in the Berkshires (Hint to upcoming religious sects; if you wish to thrive, don’t ban sex) about 25 years ago. A class of about 20 of us built a little 16×24 Barn. I’ve collected the appropriate tools and played at cabinet making ever since,
In a pinch I could slap together a services coffin or two,
I came upon some very lightly used cardboard boxes that had been discarded out behind a Dollarama a few years ago. I used them for moving boxes. They made excellent containers for bedding, blankets, Winter clothing and other bulky items. I shredded and composted them once I was finished with them, but I should’ve saved a few. They’d make excellent coffins!
Nice. I would like to re-do the roof on our garden house (framing a gabled roof myself), but I can’t take the plunge just yet.
During the Obama administration I became “woke” to preparedness thanks to our host among others like Zero Hedge and Survival Blog. In that quest I decided to take a class on poultry butchering; you see I am a total animal lover and I wanted to be sure that when the SHTF I would be able to make do. It was quite the experience. The difficult thing was the actual kill, but there was no axe involved. The chicken was upside down in an orange construction cone and I simply slit its throat. Very humane seeming, at least to me!
The rest of the process is just pretty messy with removing the feathers and such. Really it’s not much different than cutting up a whole chicken from the grocery store. There was one surprise though- there were three eggs inside in varying stages of formation. Very educating
One of the reasons why FDR’s promise of “a chicken in every pot” held such appeal was because chicken was formerly a luxury menu item. I’ve been told that, in today’s dollars, a 1930 chicken would cost about $20. They’re cheaper now because of the “efficiencies” of factory farming, highly efficiency processing methods (using cheap labor), and the developement of meat birds that are ready for butchering after only a couple of months.
Raising and butchering chickens (meat birds) is very labor intensive. My daughter raised 30 meat birds a few years ago. When it came time to send them to freezer camp, it took four people doing a solid two days work to get the job done.
It was a pleasant fall day. My daughter’s husband killed them, my daughter ran them through a homemade mechanical chicken-plucker, I gutted them, and daughter’s husband’s mother did the cutting up and more detailed plucking and putting them into freezer bags.
None of us had ever done this before, so we spent the first hour of the first morning watching YouTube videos on how to do it. Admittedly, we were not highly efficient workers. My daughter later calculated that, including labor costs, she would have had to charge about $18 for each chicken just to break even–and even that would not have compensated her for the two months time spent feeding them and moving the chicken tractor around. (She did include feed costs in her calculations.) Each bird weighed about eight pounds after processing.
She decided not to bother with raising meat birds again. It is somewhat less labor-intensive to cull a chicken from your existing flock, as needed. The cost and labor of feeding them is not immense, and the eggs compensate you for that. But killing, plucking, and processing one bird is still likely to take a couple of hours. Less, once you get good at it, I guess–but still at least an hour. What’s an hour’s time now valued at? Even if you had no other costs?
It was a pleasant fall day. My daughter’s husband killed them, – Anthea
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My mother-in-law, Sonja, was the next to the last of a whole gang of kids procreated by Czech immigrants. They were very religious. The parents’ names were even Joseph and Mary, no bullshit. They wound up in Pennsylvania coal country living in the woods on the side of a mountain.
They grew some stuff including chickens and pigs. My MIL tells the story of the day that Tommy the pig was slaughtered by her father and brothers. She and her sister, Barbara, loved Tommy and couldn’t bear to observe the killing. She and Barbara got under the kitchen table and held their ears and also prayed for Tommy’s immortal soul.
At my MIL’s funeral I regaled the mourners with a 20 minute history of Mom’s life of which the tale of Tommy the pig was a key feature.
Subsistence farming isn’t really a cash operation, except for a few extras that might bring in some “egg money.”
We had a flock of chickens when I was growing up. Not a large flock—maybe 25. We kept them for eggs. Basically, only an old chicken whose laying career was over ever got eaten. My father would manage to get her head on a chopping block and cut it off with an ax.
She would often run around headless. Then he would string her up in the garage (actually, part of our barn) and pluck her. Occasionally the body still “jumped” with a spasm—explained by my father as a reaction of the nervous system.
He would then bring her in to the house to wash and clean the body, remove the guts, etc., and then into the pot.
The thing I recall very clearly was that as soon as he came in he would wash his arms thoroughly in the kitchen sink at least up to the elbows with hot water and soap because, he said, chickens have lice or mites of some kind in their feathers.
“The thing I recall very clearly was that as soon as he came in he would wash his arms thoroughly in the kitchen sink at least up to the elbows with hot water and soap because, he said, chickens have lice or mites of some kind in their feathers.”
trapping: trappers drop their clothes in a specific place just at the door, shed, garage or whichever such available location exists to make critters less likely to infest the house. Bagged at the door and rigorously cleansed to further keep the critters living on them from infesting the house.
When I was a kid, the neighbors across the street raised a pig one summer. His name was Rootafort, and to the kids in the family, he was a pet. So whenever the family sat down to dinner the following winter, one of the kids was sure to look at his/her plate and–with tear-filled eyes and a quivering lower lip–ask, “Is this…Rootafort?”
I only saw my grandmother kill chickens once. She grabbed them by the neck and spun them around until their heads popped off. The headless bodies ran around for awhile, like the proverbial “chicken with its head cut off.” I think the most surprising thing about this was that she was so matter-of-fact about it. She considered it no more an event than putting on your shoes.
My mother tell of her father raising meat chickens during the depression. Gran Harold would hang the chicken from the clothesline (sans grandmothers wash) by their legs and and then walk down the line using a long ice pick down(up) their throat into the chest and let them bleed out. This way they wouldn’t run around and also bleed out. Can’t say it was humane, but he would get top price for the meat at the market.
I note that most people believe that when a hen is no longer productive, the proper thing to do is kill and eat her.
Now apply that to our ruling overlords’ outlook on the teeming masses of unproductive workers and it may give some insight into current events.
What’s an hour’s time now valued at? Even if you had no other costs?
Good question. But if that one hour buys another 24 for you and your family the calculus shifts.
“I note that most people believe that when a hen is no longer productive, the proper thing to do is kill and eat her.”
Well, I didn’t say anything about “proper” or “belief.”
but if youi want to talk “proper” and “belief,” I would bet that a lot more hens are leading short, unpleasant lives these days, when they are force-fed for a few months only to meet the same end, by the millions, when they are slaughtered for meat, than the very few hens in our flock met after a pleasant, productive life layijng eggs for our family and living in a nice, cozy wooden cubicle in a room in our barn.
And landed at the end in the stew pot. We were a family of six. We didn’t keep hens as pets.
You clearly missed my point.
We aren’t pets either.
I guess I sure did miss your point.
You compared chickens to people
So, yeah, i guess I don’t get the point.
I don’t notice any people in stew pots, though. Those who have led productive working lives in the USA are most likely on SS.
When I recall the activities of my youth with a young audience they are often jealous at all the experiences I had, and wish they could’ve lived in similar times.
You really get a unique perspective if your formative years were pre-social media and pre ipad-in-every-babies-hands, pre “digital” era – heck, even if you made it through most of your youth before gaming systems or cable tv was standard in every home. Your unique perspective comes in being able to see what life can be like without those things, and how it can function just fine without those things.
I would love to learn the ways of the Amish, and I would love to teach others what I learn. JHK, make sure to let your audience know how to join when you set it up 😉
Ironically, Unperson, many of the old skills can now be learnt via…the internet. I spent an hour today looking up common edible wild flowers and plants. I learnt a lot. Then off I went to our local woods to see which ones grow in our area. Same goes for making survival stuff we might need over the coming years: wood burning stoves, outdoor shelters, etc.
Fantastic idea, but I wonder how many twenty- and thirty-somethings would be interested…it kinda sounds like work…?
You’d probably be overwhelmed by old farts like me signing up, which would be great, except for our limited shelf life.
Hi steponbugs, my partner and I are millennials (early 30’s) who took JMG’s advice to “collapse now and avoid the rush” back in 2019. We live totally debt free offgrid learning skills and cultivating all sorts of edible plants and most importantly mental health. Since we started our website we are seeing that it doesn’t matter what age Americans are, most do not have to courage to live simpler or with purpose as the Long Emergancy unfolds. We hope to change that through our website and Peak Prosperity, but it’s up to each of us to get going and start living wisely in a de industrializing country.
my family has two ranches in a beautiful mountain area–beef cattle –been in the family since ww2–we wonder if we will be able to defend the damn place if the world goes mad max–if you have food they will try to steal–my dad told about how on our farm in MN the gypsies stole all our corn in the middle of the night after dad let them camp on the farm in about 1930ties–they all split up in different directions so was hard to track them–dad and uncles only found one of their horse drawn wagons–got some corn back and shot 3 of their horses -kind of mad max during the last great depression–we have lots of family of all ages now and lots of friends—i am going to buy a surplus MRAP to help defend the ranches–Martin Armstrong says by 2032 the usa is done,i believe him
Jim,
What you are seeing with your own eyes can best be described as a Cargo Cult. The conveniences that modern technology brings along for the ride are going away. Travel has become exponentially more difficult. The ability to just open your mouth and shovel in whatever you desire is going away. The wonder drugs that made the world safe for our grandparents are going away. You get the point.
Technology allowed for us to act like tattooed obese land whales with purple hair in a land where critical thinking was openly mocked. Everyone can see that tide receding but they all believe that if they just double down on being stupid and retarded then, just like with the Cargo Cults, the technology will remain.
Yeah, that’s a good analogy. Cargo cults arose because of an outside subsidy to the people on the islands courtesy of the USA in the war. The modern cargo cult requires more bizarre rituals, like trans crap, but it’s designed to continue the subsidy from outside.
There’s plenty of oil left, but not enough to underwrite everything we are doing. Something’s gotta give, and it’s giving. Or, in this case, taking away the illusions.
Yep. It’s amazing how many conservatives still think we can sort this out via DC and the ballot box (record early voting in Georgia today – wow!). The least worst outcome will be some kind of red-blue split with real border walls. And even that won’t be pretty.
I don’t think that, but I plan to vote anyway and am always surprised at people who don’t. I understand the disgust and despair, but individuals can still make a difference or at least try to do so. It isn’t as if you had to make a big effort, so you’ve lost nothing by choosing the least awful candidate. If I was hanging over the edge of a cliff, about to slide into the abyss, I wouldn’t believe someone who told me to click my heels together and say “there’s no place like home” – but, having nothing to lose and no other option, I’d do it anyway.
Good point. Voting at this point is a lot like clicking your heels and chanting an incantation.
Most excellent, Jim! Might not want to let the word get out too widely, though, as you just might be overrun with down on their luck disciples.
On the other hand, it could be the start of a burgeoning Kunstlerian Empire in the East to challenge the other soon to be emerging fiefdoms after the fall of Ol’ DC. I can see it now: Kunstler Bucks with Jim’s stern visage as the center piece under the motto “In Jim We Trust, All Others Pay Cash,” and over the sub-motto injunction “Get to Work!”
I’ve heard of crazier things.
Heil Kunstler? Doesn’t sound right, does it.
I see him as a benevolent – albeit not exactly soft-hearted – dictator. Hard times demand hard men!
Kunstler Youth!
LOL! They wear little latex bald skin caps.
Go for it, Jimbo! The human race has much to learn from the Amish.
Having lived in a number of countries designated “third-world” (not by those living there, certainly) I not unnaturally wonder whether we can also learn practical low-tech survival skills from their inhabitants. I am thinking about the aboriginal peoples in particular, who are not so tightly entangled in a money economy.
I used to think that preppers were nut jobs. No longer. Even when I take the pooch for a walk in the woods, I find myself looking at flowers and plants and wondering if they are edible.
I ate a mess of poke salet earlier today. I often crave it in the spring. You used to be able to buy poke salet in cans at some grocery stores.
Just out of curiousity, I tested my blood sugar two hours after eating it, and it was 93. I’ve seldom seen that number. (I am diabetic.) So I want to test this a few more times to see if it works to treat diabetes. There is some research that indicates it does, and it is used in TCM to treat diabetes, arthritis, parasites, fibromyalgia, skin affections, and various other things. I looks like preparations that you can buy are tinctures of the root. I see that the tinctures are either 3:1 or 5:1–so easy enough to make at home.
Some acquaintances have told me that their families used to berries to treat colds and flu. It is a valuable anti-inflammatory.
Caveat: The root is VERY poisonous if used in too high a dose; the normal dose of the tincture is only a few drops.
J.L. Hudson reports that he cured his Lyme Disease with poke root.
I have never experimented with its medicinal use. I just like to eat it. Most people only eat poke in the spring, as the plant becomes poisonous once it’s over about eight inches tall–although I understand that you can harvest the new top growth all summer, as long as it has not yet taken on a reddish tint.
I told my daughter about my lowered blood sugar and she gathered another bunch for me. It’s about 50 yards away from the house, in the woods, so I will gather more myself. I’ll also be digging the root to make a tincture.
There are many tasty wild greens around. Lamb’s quarters are a favorite. Sour dock is good when very young, before it gets tough. Chickweed and winter cress are good. I have never tried wild mustard greens. The root of the wild parsnip is delicious. You only dig those in winter.
Another interesting medicinal herb is Spanish Needle (Bidens pilosa). Supposedly it is an excellent anti-viral/anti-bacterial for colds and flu and various other stuff. A very common weed around here, and quite a nuisance.
Be careful with wild ‘greens’. Many of them are extremely high in oxalates which are hard on your kidneys and may lead to kidney stones.
Many parts of pine trees are edible
That’s a great read, Anthea! No-one here needs to be told that our medical world is completely dominated by toxic Big Pharma, so maybe it’s time to hit the natural remedies again. I’ll look into the plants you mention. I’m in Europe, but we have many of the same ones. Coltsfoot is supposed to be a good one for coughs, and there are plenty of others. As for Spanish Needle – is the Latin name really Biden Pelosi? Sounds deadly poisonous! I hope it all works for your diabetes.
It is a great idea. We will need teachers who can teach life skills for an economy that is coming. thanks for putting it out there.
Great Idea with the Amish! Extend it into junior colleges. Out here vintner degrees are being offered as more and more land is being converted to wine. We need to get rid of the Liberal Arts conversion to Woke propaganda anyway.
JHK, your diary of your small garden experiences would be invaluable. Also, spreading the word to young people looking for a way out of the cities would be great. One thing is going to happen and soon, the youngsters in the cities are going to split in half, half looking for and honorable way out of the mess the Mob has put them into, and the the half, not so much. It could get bloody real fast.
I think the skills classes are a great idea. I was thinking, as I was reading, how they stupidified an entire generation of American kids on purpose, some will be lucky if they even learn to read, and how the Build Back Better proponents hadn’t bothered to think beyond the destruction part.
Just who was going to do the building? John Kerry?
The DAVOS/WEF crowd only has use of their private jets as long as somebody else keeps them running for them.
Beryl, you got that right. I’m a retired educator and the emphasis that was put on preparing EVERYONE for college was a HUGE mistake. In Kentucky, over the past 15 years, we pretty much eliminated all shop classes and even in my rural district, our Ag program was watered down.
Now we are on the cusp of shortages of skilled trades-people of all types. I guess the elites think that our friends crossing the border will fill in that gap.
Spot on, Beryl. “Learn to code.” 🙂
” I was thinking . . . how they stupidified an entire generation of American kids on purpose, some will be lucky if they even learn to read, and how the Build Back Better proponents hadn’t bothered to think beyond the destruction part.”
Bring back 4-H!!
Amish chic. Great idea. Most practical.
A nurse colleague is recruiting me to her local mutual aid society and asked what my husband did. He’s a good all-around engineer, but worked in propulsion test stands for NASA for decades. “He once went to Pep Boys, bought a bunch of parts, and cobbled together a rocket engine igniter for a space craft. Do you need that?”
She laughed . . . But now I’m laughing at “Amish Space Force”.
Nursing skills will be at a premium in the future for those who actually learn them. Too many of the graduates I saw were poorly educated in the basics of assessment and real nursing care. They filled out paperwork and handed out pills they had no idea what they were.
Yes, a graduate nurse is kind of like a second lieutenant . . . they know very little at age 21 and fresh out of school. Hospitals LOVE to hire that kind of blank slate.
Bottled oxen farts will be the new propane for the “Fossil Fuels” idiots.
I was born in the back seat of a pigfart tractor/
Rolling down Cowpath 41 . . .
Safer than a hospital birth.
and especially for boys
I’ve noticed that the students in the schools I am connected to have all been doing projects on how nutritional bugs are and how being a vegan is the best thing ever. The propaganda just never stops – and these are private schools, not public ones.
Like a poorly-raised teenager who knows he’s about to bring home a report card with a raft of D’s & F’s, western “leadership” will do anything, Anything, ANYTHING to distract from the problems. This includes anything from petty crimes, crashing the family car, to setting the house on fire.
Hence monkeypox, UFO hearings, reviving the threat of nuclear war… What comes next?
War on Monkeys. Biden’s staff is working on the announcement now. The US military thinks it’s finally found an enemy that it might possibly be able to defeat. Undeterred, the monkeys are already mobilizing. My money’s on the chimps.
I’ve often thought that we ought to arm and train chimps—at least for their own defense.
Call a chimp a “monkey” and you will find they already know how to defend themselves quite effectively.
The drug “research” and space travel? Chimps like living on the edge and use us as their enablers. That “live fast, die young” mentality is driving their evolution like a Formula One race car. Look out – the chimps are pulling into the passing lane.
Speaking of training and arming chimps, there is a good video on the subject on YouTube (and probably everywhere else by now) of a chimp apparently recruited into some west African army learning the basics of self-defense. My advice: air drop the AKs, the chimps will figure them out.
I have it on good authority that a single adult chimp can beat the shit out of 10 humans at once. Chimps are much stronger and fiercer than humans. They just aren’t as mean.
Yes. They are wild animals and once they hit puberty they are dangerous. Many people have found out the hard way. Chimps can pull a human apart and have done so.
I’d prefer to be mauled to death by a bear, given the choice.
When they came out at you, they go to maim and incapacitate, as quickly as possible. They go for the eyes, the face, the genitals, the hands. Pretty brutal.
Yep. Biden’s already demanded Milly Vanilly invades “Orangustan”
>>>My money’s on the chimps.
Well, they’ve got Joe beat in the IQ department already, so I think you’ll win a few bets on this one.
The famed fierce Bonobo Brigades have already been recruited out of Africa by the Chinese and have vowed to fight to the last to protect Chinese/Chimp sovereignty.
Unfortunately Dis, you’ve been a victim of disinformation. Bonobos (formerly known by the ethnic slur “Pygmy Chimpanzee”) are the wokesters of the ape crowd.
Wander in the west African jungle until you hear the narcissistic fantasy Imagine bouncing off the forest canopy, then you’ll know you’re close. Make sure you knock before entering – probably a rip-roaring orgy going on. Everybody, all the time – that’s how you do it bonobo style.
Apparently it was isolation from gorillas that allowed bonobos to adopt the easy-going, fuck-all-the-time lifestyle for which they are beloved by their human counterparts. Chimps, having to live next door to gorillas, evolved the tendency to go apeshit at the drop of a hat. Bad neighbors will do that to ya.
The DC crowd, the Deep State, the Biden Mob, all are members of the ignorant gimme crowd that they work to propagate. That is why we have not seen one, not one, good idea from the East Coast mob for any of the problems we keep hearing repeated here.
JHK, the East Coast’s good land declined in the early 1800’s, as immigration increased competition for bottomland and fertility declined. It was the main reason the move west happened. Fly over population density may negate the move out of the cities. Declining resources and increasing population do not bode well. Fifty years from now, who are left may be called survivors.
First to go will be the suburbs!
I think one of the reasons for the Ukraine war is what Joe said — regime change. While Schwab and the rest preach climate change & BBB, they’ll be having yachts, filet mignon, and air condiioning. Russia has lots of natural resources of oil & gas and is, BTW, one of three nations with immense fresh water. I think the neocons want to loot Russia and this is the opening salvo.
Exactly, SW.
This is about looting Russia, not ”defending” western Ukraine.
I think that our ruling overlords would be happy to kill every Ukrainian and every Russian in order to get their greedy hands on those riches.
I have to wonder how they really think this will happen — are they so deluded they can’t see the Russians have no intention of allowing that to happen? Our European “allies” are probably praying Russia takes over Ukraine and spares them a third WW. I can hardly blame them.
Speaking of monkey pox, Ben Fulford did an excellent job in his blog today (benjaminfulford.net) showing monkey pox pictures labeled from 2017 and 2018 with the MSM showing the exact same pics but with fake dates of May 2022 (and trying to say they were current). More bullshit virus fear porn and propaganda on the way!!! BTW, Pfizer just announced that it has a monkey pox vax; those guys must be really smart, eh. 🙂
Here’s my monkey pox vaccine: Do not eat bush meat. Do not import exotic pets.. Do not let your place get overrun by rats. Do not go to a fetish festival and play butt pirate. Avoid being a garden-variety non-fetishistic butt pirate for the next few months. Monkey pox takes a lot of unusual effort to catch.
What is the significance of a Jupiter/Mars conjunction?
https://banned.video/watch?id=6288f8c2b2797b15546f4e79
crazy video and I do mean crazy.
Is this crazy?
“Member states will also be required to strengthen their approaches to “infodemic management” (a term coined by the WHO that refers to “too much information including false or misleading information in digital and physical environments during a disease outbreak.”) Additionally, non-state actors will be required to actors to work with governments to fight disinformation.”
https://reclaimthenet.org/world-health-organization-pandemic-treaty-a-fresh-push-for-vaccine-passports-global-surveillance-and-more/
Sounds about the same to me.
I’m not too worried about the new WHO crap. Of course, the maniacs will push it to the limit, and of course the usual patsy nations will sign it. But you can forget about Russia, China, India and a whole swathe of Red states playing along. FFS, even the stupid Euros are ignoring the EU’s führerbefehl to stop accepting Russian oil and gas, and are even paying in rubles. National interests will prevail on this one.
This could have all been so much simpler if they simply asked for euthanasia volunteers. Might be surprising how many they would get.
I suggested years ago that we would save a lot of money and heartache if we offered $10,000 to anyone who would be sterilized. Think of the reduced crime and government payments….and none of the drama around abortion.
They don’t propose things like this because, none of what the Davos crowd are setting in motion has anything to do with climate or “overpopulation.”
The greatest lies are always at the core. Just look at the Covid Hoax.
True. I volunteer Gates, Schwab and Soros, and all the other eugenicists. They should practice what they preach.
Chapter and verse?
Remember, if it’s not in the Bible it’s meaningless.
“Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets [ or just a great teacher ]. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.”
Thus, if it is, it IS important.
Yes, that’s why the Christians burned the Library at Alexandria. Anything not in the Bible is extraneous. And if it is in the Bible, it’s mere repetition. What need for any book but One?
They began the job. The Muslims finished. Same attitude, different book.
“It wasn’t a single individual who destroyed the library; it took centuries. The most significant lesson here is that knowledge can undermine the foundations of both political and religious movements. We have made progress possible thanks to our insatiable curiosity.
However, there will always be some individuals who fear rational thought. Knowledge is their biggest enemy.
A noble warrior’s life is done when he dies, but knowledge lives on. Wisdom passes down through generations and exposes fallacies.
Hence, those in power target institutions of learning.”
https://medium.com/publishous/who-was-guilty-of-destroying-the-great-library-of-alexandria-85f72f8f9543
“Test the spirits whether they be of God for many false spirits have gone out into the world.”
“And if it is in the Bible, it’s mere repetition.”
Where is the declaration made by Peter [ or any one else ] made prior to about 30AD?
[ new wine in old wineskins ]
I should have realized this would devolve into a bash the bible routine. I did not realize [ after years of reading your stuff ] that you were an unbeliever.
If the Father has not revealed it to you there is nothing I can [ should ] do unless you ask.
There is no middle ground concerning Jesus. Either he was a raving lunatic or He is exactly who He says He is.
Now, back to the vid – what is the significance of a Jupiter/Mars conjunction?
Read Rabbi Cahn. He writes about this kind of thing. He’s an Old Testament guy just like you.
I “believe” in all the scriptures including the “Bible” (a compendium of many books) or at least the good parts of it.
“He’s an Old Testament guy just like you.”
Another miss.
“A chapter by chapter examination of the Book of Hebrews; this book examines the ways in which God has moved towards a better covenant with man. The historical background of the Book of Hebrews as well as contextual discussions add insight and relevance to Hebrews.”
Read freely:
https://godskingdom.org/studies/books/hebrews-immigrating-from-the-old-covenant-to-the-new
The significance of any transiting planet and the aspects it makes depends a lot on whose chart you’re looking at. E.g., superficially it looks like this conjunction means I should buy a lottery ticket, as it occurs in my house of money and also speculation. Except that the conjunction makes no aspects at all to any other planet in my chart, except my Mars, to which it is inconjunct–meaning a somewhat discordant note. It probably means I’ll buy something and suffer buyer’s remorse. Mars and Jupiter can also indicate extravagant spending.
It could be interesting to look at where this conjunction falls in the US chart, but not interesting enough for me to bother looking. I don’t know much about that kind of astrology anyway. I can’t even remember what you call it.
Enter jarek, nice thread down the tubes.
I helped. Maybe I should only post on Thursdays or Sundays.
Then what?
If you only post on Thursdays and Sundays, that means you get the last word in.
I don’t want the last word. I want the truth.
Always.
Islander: You’re wrong a lot. And you can’t stand hearing about it. But that’s what this place is for. I’m sure there are sites where everyone agrees with every one else is circle rub fashion…..
He has a lot of fans, outside the regular commenters.
What’s your problem?
Elk:
“What’s you problem?”
I don’t mind being wrong.
In fact, I often hope that I am.
But there is really no interesting debate or discussion with some like ‘Rek. Some people just like to fight.
1. Gigantic chip on shoulder regarding women and commenters here whom he knows to be women. Has not yet explained his free-floating resentment of women, or women here, except to accuse them of being feminazis. Any woman who stands up for herself is a feminazi, don’t you know!!
2. Leading from the chip on shoulder he enjoys “pulling hair” and flinging turds rather than engaging with what people actual write in a reasonable fashion.
3. Leading to the obnoxious tic of third-person statements informing women of what they think: “Islander thinks X because she is blah-blah; Green Alba thinks Y because she said X.” He hates women, he enjoys insulting them, he thinks he knows them inside out and hence makes dumb sweeping statements about what they think, both generally and individually, especially those he has divined to be feminazis (basically all women). He enjoys being a jerk, deriding the stupid opinions he himself has made up for women and is sure they hold on the basis of the above. He enjoys insulting women in an utterly childish style. Of course this says a lot about him, and nothing about specific women, or women in general.
He has been called out on this behavior by others besides me, but—like a little boy who enjoys cutting farts at the dinner table—I guess he just can’t stop.
Totally agree with your assessment, Islander, and it’s always disappointing to see how many bolster and cheer on his misogynistic attacks.
And can we add the unfettered racism?
I can ignore most of the racism up here, but Jarek will inject it into every discussion EVEN WHEN RACE ISN’T A FACTOR. It’s kinda like people with knee-jerk TDS. Same goes for anything about women. And yeah, he posts non-sequitur posts detrimental to women all the time, and usually it’s religious bigotry or propaganda.
So Mary, you admit that Blacks commit far more serious crimes per capita than Whites, right?
And that you said, Men are death. Women are life?
Islander: Messi started the thread by responding to me. So I didn’t “enter the thread” out of nowhere. Wrong again! AND rude as you so often are.
Jarek insists on continuing to misquote me even after being called out on doing it to me and everyone else up here (mostly women of course).
LOL.
Welp, Jupiter/Mars conjunctions occur roughly once every two years, since Mars completes its circuit of the zodiac in roughly two years.
Just offhand, one would say that Jupiter (which is expansive) contacting Mars (which rules war and physical energies in general) would indicate an expansion of war, as well as greater funding for it/them.
The conjunction is in Aries (the sign that rules war) and is exact on the 29th/30th of May. Jupiter/Mars conjunctions in Aries probably occur about once every twelve years. I wouldn’t get too excited about it.
Stirring up wars, expanding them, and funding them is a fairly routine scenario.
The thing is, they believe [ live-by ] it.
Youtuber Southern Prepper.1 said that the Shit has already hit the fan,.just that most people haven’t figured it out yet.
He reported on an interesting email about 40 foot high ballistic walls being installed around electrical substations in NJ.
“Yes, Hwood loves short, big-headed, small-bodied manlets since the 1980s or so.
So funny.
No more Lee Marvins or Burt Lancasters.” ~ MaryQueen (previous article’s threads)
Lee Marvin and Burt Lancaster, ay? LOL
Not that I give a sh!t about Hollywood, except to pirate the odd film if I have company that wants it.
But as a related aside, I find a lot of female television broadcasters manly too. LOL
Don’t get me going. LOL
“I guess they were too manly.” ~ MaryQueen
Of course they’re not every ‘queen’s cup o’ man, hon.
Certainly not mine if I was gay or female cis gender or whatever I am supposed to call it.
…But so are those two your personal faves or what?
I have a female friend who asked me once who my guy crush would be if, and I’ve been trying to figure that out ever since. The best I could come up with at the time was Carl Sagan.
“Shoplet, that’s Al Pacino on the left, and DeNiro in his elevator shoes in the pic.”
Ya, I know. I caught that the moment I sent it.
“N.O. is right, it never gets old.
Fucking hilarious!” ~ MaryQueen
(shrug) Knock yourselves out. LOL
Oddly, Gonzalo Lira made a very similar comment on his morning about filmakers’ preference for short people with proportionally larger heads because they register better on camera.
Big eyes too, you need big eyes to make it as a movie star.
Like Julie London and Humphrey Bogart.
Tim Robbins is relatively recent Hollywood, relatively tall and might have smallish eyes, yes?
I don’t know about Leonardo DiCaprio’s height, but he’s got the ‘heavy’ ‘bedroom’ eyes, so that’s out for big eyes, yes?
But again, they both seem to be apples: Small/flat asses; relatively-broad shoulders. Like MQ’s Lancaster et al.. Ditto with these cookie-cutter extra-broad shouldered, smallish boobed anchor-women and their odd wig-like curling-iron ‘hairpieces’ and cartoonish makeup.
But if, as MaryQueen writes, so-called ‘manly men’, are going to have daughters that would seem to stand to reason that they might turn out kind of ‘manly’ as per MQ’s designation for what’s apparently manly. LOL
It would be nice if your last paragraph made sense, but it just doesn’t.
See my response below in the main thread margin.
And AOC.
They know full well her big brown eyes, toothy grin, and red lips register in people’s minds.
The Doppelgängers
Tulsi Gabbard too yes? She even seems to have a kind of Tom Cruise-shape of face.
Well, let’s face it, we are all part of the same human family. I see people’s faces in others’ all the time. I even met and spoke briefly with one of my own doppelgängers (and joked about it).
Tulsi’s eyes aren’t quite as striking as AOC’s, but she does have a quite glorious raven mane.
Jarek has a crush on her, he’s said it in previous threads. Of all the people to be crushing on – lol.
Tulsi’s raven mane and Jarek’s crush on her? I’ll have to take a second look now.
Dunno about that. Clint Eastwood, Lee “Angel eyes” and Eli Wallach all had small eyes…
That might be so, but I looked up DeNiro’s height and, as I mentioned in the previous threads, it was apparently 5’9″, but due to age I guess, he’s now 5′ 7 1/2″, but so what. But that seems to qualifies for Night Owl, if recalled, as midget. Anyway, it can get pretty ridiculous pretty fast and that’s why I mentioned the pigeon toes of the other actor. I mean, let’s everyone on here, especially including MaryQueen and Night Owl take pics of themselves at varous angles, post them online and we can all have a go at their setups. LOL
But here’s something else about this big head thing: The Hulk has a small head and big body. Awesome.
But here’s something else, since I’m on a roll, DeNiro et al might still be apples. Maybe check out their asses. Their shoulders might also still be relatively broad. So maybe shorter apples than MaryQueen’s, eh, Lancaster and the other guy, but still apples just the same.
^u^
did stunt work years ago in hollyweird–at 6’3″ was always told to get away from the short guys!! if they say their 5’9″ the truth is they are 5’6″ or so–J Wayne they say 6’4″ but actually 6’2″ and he seemed really tall around the short dudes–my fav was JIm Arness–he liked hanging around the crews ,normal guy-i think he was a true 6’5″–he towered on the set..
Nowadays, it may be harder to fake one’s height in Hollyweird or elsewhere, but in any case, humans as mammals have the capacity to evolve to be quite tall (or short) over time, perhaps especially given our bipedal status.
But as I briefly mentioned in the previous threads, extra height and mass has its cons. There’s also the issue of greater sexual dimorphism.
My fave cowboy giant:
Clint Walker,
Why would Night Owl or I take pictures of ourselves? We’re not trying to be actors.
If it helps, I am 181 cm, 175 lbs., and look a lot like Ewan McGregor.
Works for me.
Yeah, and I look like Marilyn Monroe!! And Clint Walker. Combined . . .
It’s not bad going through life being good looking, as I can attest 😉
I’ve seen your pic, Mary, and you look very glam. 🙂
I feel like Worzel Gummidge by comparison!
It was rhetorical to make a point, apparently lost on you.
“It’s not bad going through life being good looking, as I can attest ? ” ~ MaryQueen
“If it helps, I am 181 cm, 175 lbs., and look a lot like Ewan McGregor.” ~ Night Owl
(rolls eyes)
DeNiro’s problem isn’t that he’s a shortarse; his problem is that he’s a leftist turd.
The short temper and desire to control others are common among short men.
This is an observation made over many years.
I never thought much about it when I was younger, but height is a really big deal to a lot of men.
Lots of jacked dudes/gym rat types are often short, too.
Dustin Hoffman
Ya, I thought about him but didn’t open up a pic up to double check. But if you are looking for something specific, there’s always a danger to cherrypick.
Ah, yes, Mumbles. Where is he these days?
Ryan Gosling and Ryan Renolds are both taller than average (likely both over 6′) and they both have bigger eyes than average, depending on what you mean by bigger. Bulgy? No. They are both from Canada, though, but work in Hollywood.
Tom Cruise.
I suggest that it may be less bout the eyes so much as who is responsible for their hiring/casting and what they look like vis-a-vis what type of face they are attracted to. Ever notice that all the actors eerily look like each other in a film? They even mention that effect in the film, ‘Palm Springs’. See it for that but also see it because it’s a fun film.
Always remember Cruise in “Valkyrie”, where he was playing the very tall Von Stauffenberg. They did a good job of making TC look tall and stringy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRbhE3GRiUE
Tom seems to like to have fun, so that’s nice.
I thought it was the larger the head, the more inherently attractive cuz that’s closer to the proportions of babies.
Because it’s true. Just google it. I have a sister who’s an actor, been on stage and TV. She has a larger than normal head. It’s what looks good on camera. This is common knowledge among actors & agents.
I’ll take some of that with a grain of salt.
I couldn’t care less what you do.
I didn’t know Stallone was that short for many years. They don’t tell you and they don’t put them next to normal sized people. It’s all camera angles.
So, maybe it’s not that they “like” them, just that they don’t care. And there may be something to that old saw, “the charisma of the short man”, a la Emerson’s Law of Compensation. So by this light, they get the charisma which the big guy won’t have, and they hide how short the stars in question really are.
Did you know that the Special Forces are full of guys like this? Very few big guys, mostly well built short and medium sized guys. They’re stronger pound for pound and they can’t take more punishment and keep on going.
That seems to be the case for construction workers too although I’m not 100% sure. And the managers might be more likely to be the tall ones. Even at Walmart. LOL
Yes, Caste is real, Shop. You can see it come naturally into play.
Women love height. Six foot in the minimum requirement for many of them now.
Jarek, I’m running late and have to head out, so we’ll earmark this for tomorrow or later today.
Understood and agreed to some degree, as in evidence with Night Owl’s ostensible height ‘anti-fetish’ demo; the brother’s ‘scary’ height, the quasi-mantra, ‘fear’ of being DeNiro’s height, (5’9″ considered ‘midget’), complete with a platform-shoe shot as if he’s not an actor playing a role, and so on. Yikes!
But nature has other ideas and is far more nuanced– beyond our comprehension.
The point is sort of inadvertently potentially embellished by the ostensible case of Hollywood’s ‘male-type’ shift.
So things can turn on a dime. .
There are cool men and women out there that are playing with full decks. Stick with those and let your conceptual tribe split and evolve beyond some things like the caste or height bullshit, and whatever else have you.
It’s about as bad in a way as Wokeism.
My grandfather must have been 5’5″. Short little farmer named Felix, but nicknamed Tough. Strap iron muscles and a bass voice. My brother was 5’9″ but had the same wiry build his whole life. I have never known two people with more iron endurance than Grandpa and my brother. I have that same build, so I’m not sure what recessive genes are responsible for my towering, mooselike son.
Maybe the other half of that towering mooselike son picked up something from hanging around those NASA propulsion test stands
Maybe you were kidnapped by a UFO and had him implanted into your womb, and then had your memory wiped.
That certainly must be it, Jared.
In point of fact, I really did not know who the heck his science-fictiony father was or what he looked like. Not for 17 years, anyhow. Kinda makes me sound like the town bicycle, doesn’t it?
The SF thing kind of makes sense. I would think bigger guys would need a lot more calories to stay in the field for extended periods.
I bet they know there is a sweet spot in terms of how many calories a guy can carry versus how many he needs to consume.
I have stood next to his brother, Frank. He is not short.
Average height for white male is 5’7 from what I understand.
big weird eyes, the captain of captain n tenille. he has some condition.
My brother is about 5’7″ and, like you, also quite touchy about it.
🙂
I’m perfectly happy with my height and just find it amusing, maybe silly that people will niggle over an inch or two here or there, apparently like you, babe.
Small-man syndrome is hilarious.
Were I short, I would be fine with it, but I must admit that it is nice not being DeNiro tall.
Small man syndrome: Exhibit A: Mini-Mengele
Indeed, Hereward.
Small-man syndrome? LOL
Or your own reverse personal promo? To smooth over some fissures in your confidence/ego? By stepping on/belittling others to elevate yourself as the saying goes?
I guess one can be ‘small’ and ‘big’ in different ways, in ways one may not even realize, and that their meanings can change/invert.
Speaking of which, I neglected to say earlier before heading out that if your brother had another brother instead of you he may have been less, as you write, ‘touchy about it’.
One or another moral of the story maybe: Just try to be the best version of you that you can be and lose those who would make you (and others) feel otherwise.
Height seems to be a big issue for you, Shoplet.
Perhaps some self-reflection is needed.
Shoplet starts a massive rant over a comment I made that’s not even on this thread.
The tantrum is starting to sound like small man’s complex alright.
Woo ya, ‘massive rant’ and ‘small-man syndrome’ quasi-mantra, etc….
‘How dare Shoplet™ challenge us like that! Take my comment from another thread!?’
LOL
Methinks some people hereon are chafing and projecting, bigly.
Here’s some Virtual Chafing Cream™. Apply as required.
^u^
You got rekt, Shoplet.
Deal with it.
LMAO! I think you nailed it.
To paraphrase Shoplet: “I’m 3 foot 9 and it bugs me!”
That’s what I’m thinking.
Burt Lancaster and Lee Marvin types look (to me) more like a representation of the average man when I was growing up. I don’t necessarily find them attractive and I don’t have ‘personal favs’ of actors, because I’m an adult and so haven’t had schoolgirl crushes on men since I was like 12.
So, they are just representative. And preferable to the types of ‘leading men’ that are now in fashion.
Cis is a slur, BTW. It’s something the trans activists made up in order to belittle women even more than they already have.
Twink? What Do You Think?
Hey, MaryQueen, how are you this fine Tuesday? ^u^
I discuss/critique all kinds of things (online and in real life), not just about height and sociopersonal issues surrounding it nor, for example, as represented in film & other media.
I also sometimes include quotes from elsewhere, such as yours in that case. That’s just good research.
In ‘gay’ parlance, your ‘manlet’, or however you might wish to ‘slur’ it/its context, might be a ‘twink’, which, if understood correctly, is something along the lines of a ‘boyish man’. Unsure if twink is a slur, but anyway…
If, as you seem to suggest, the Hollywood film industry (others?) whose product you presumably grew up with and/or were exposed to, had a certain representation for ‘your average man’, perhaps they or whomever got somehow tired of that representation, and/or it was not representative in particular locales, and so maybe it sort of evolved into what you suggest they have more of now, more along the lines of the ‘twink’.
Further along that line, perhaps some gay men and hetero women can get tired of a certain kind of man and perhaps they even get a divorce from one and decide to try a little something different, like a ‘twink’.
“I don’t necessarily find them attractive and I don’t have ‘personal favs’ of actors, because I’m an adult and so haven’t had schoolgirl crushes on men since I was like 12.” ~ MaryQueen
I seem to recall writing ‘personal faves’ as opposed to ‘schoolgirl crushes on men when you were like 12’, but in any case, I’m reasonably sure that you’ll agree that one, at most any age, can find certain people attractive…
That writ, what do you think of Islander’s “fave cowboy giant”?
“Your comment is awaiting moderation.”
OK, my comment is awaiting moderation.
Now if this comment is also “awaiting moderation” it will be kind of like the “Droste effect.”
I was never a John Wayne fan.
If human beings were 3-4 feet tall rather than 5.5-6.5 feet tall, I wonder if our resource consumption would be cut in half. Then lengthen lifespan to compensate for declining fertility (at least in countries where there are industrial byproducts like estrogen mimics), and you’d have Hobbit World without the hairy feet. What would be interesting is how the younger generations would respond to older generations that would hang around for 30-50 more years of vigorous middle age. : )
This reminds me of the plot twist of Kurt Vonnegut’s _Slapstick_.
The world has been depopulated by the Green Death, a mysterious plague. The someone looks at an infected specimen under a microscope, and the causative organism turns out to be microminiaturized Chinese citizens. China had figured out a way to stretch their finite resources!
Another thumbs up for an Amish school . . . assuming the Amish have the patience for educating “outsiders.” We’ll need such skills either way the future goes. If Satan Klaus and his evil elves succeed, we’ll need an opt-out “parallel” society. If they don’t succeed and we just get the classic Long Emergency, we’ll need that know-how just the same.
Today’s piece is so very different from all commentary I’ve seen on these topics to date.
It is dealing with reaction to what is coming instead of just bitching. Something the Mob in DC needs to start doing.
Except their primary purpose is to destroy the USA.
I think it sounds like a good idea and certainly one with a future. While they’re at it, maybe they could give the women you know some lessons on how to can food — I’m serious. I used to help my grandmother make “leather beans.” It was an old fashioned way of drying beans where you take sewing thread and string them and dry them. They taste differently from fresh but they’re still nutritious.
Practical skills have been lost and will have to be regained for any kind of civil society to reestablish. If people can’t or won’t learn (or have no one to teach them) eventually it will be MadMax or The Road.
Most of the women I know do a lot of canning. Tomatoes and other high-acid foods can be canned in a boiling-water-bath canner. For green beans, chili, soups, etc., you need a pressure canner. If possible, spring for an electric canner, like the NESCO one.
We’re growing a big garden this year: 50 tomato plants, a 50-foot row of green beans (with succession plantings planned), and another of okra, and lots of kale, collards, spinach, lettuce, and onions already big enough to harvest. Carrots are still small. It’s time to plant squash.
In past years, when there was not enough time to do much gardening or some things didn’t do well, my daughter and I went to the Amish produce auctions, where we would buy 50-100 pounds of tomatoes each and can them. That’s a good option for people with no time or space to garden. Many people around here buy vegetables like asparagus when they are on sale cheap and can them.
I’ve heard of the “leather beans,” but I’ve never tried that.
One good practice is to make big pots of soup or chili and can the leftovers. This works especially well for small families or people living alone. You wind up with quarts and quarts of “meals in a jar” for winter.
I love this post Mr. Kunstler! Fortunately I believe we do not have to go full blown Amish to maintain our civility but there are a lot of skills they can teach! I recently wrote a piece about horses not being a common sight for a while into the future due to Americans not growing a garden and having to eat them and any other farm animals they can kill.
The Amish will have a tough time for a while as they still spray their crops with pesticides sadly.
Fortunately, being millennials and living offgrid full time, my partner and I can happily say that we do not have to go back to the 18 century but can simplify our lives now in ways that are enriching and fulfilling.
Let’s see.
Without cars, part time electricity, most high tech items especially the Net gone?
Horses will not be eaten, they will be treasured at the prime transportation in the future.
The Amish are a good model for the future. Their lifestyle including their support logistics will be unchanged. My only fear for them is with their pacifist if beliefs, they are fair game for the scum pouring out of the cities.
A book called Lucifer’s Hammer was around in the 70’s as an attempt to show what Armageddon from a comet would be like. It makes JHK’s WMBH very optimistic and provides a good model. The city scum may be the end of us all.
The city scum won’t last long. By the time they leave their cities for the poorly understood country side, it will be too late.
They won’t get far.
@ White German Shepherd:
Only the toughest of the tough will ever make it out of the cities. The likeliest bunch are Hispanics. They are also the likeliest to be welcomed, due to both the ability and the willingness to make themselves useful.
With the Asians, especially the Chinese, I can easily envision them figuring out a way to make a nice living without leaving even very disordered cities. I think they’ll set up trade networks with somebody, somewhere, or run a “restuarant,” even if they have to cook over a campfire, and even manage to protect their neighborhoods reasonably well. Quite a few urban Asians own some acreage outside the cities, where they grow produce, and sometimes cut flowers for the markets. It’s interesting to me that you never see any Asian craftspeople at the markets; they all sell produce and flowers, and the most likely Asian small busiesses are groceries and restaurants.
I would guess that few blacks will ever make it out of the cities. They’ll flail around killing each other and robbing the businesses in their own neighborhoods. Once there’s nothing left to steal nearby, they will expand these operations outwards, eventually reaching the close-in suburbs. The suburbanites will flee.
One of the biggest problems that rural people will face is what to do about fleeing hordes of white suburbanites. Most will have no skills, nothing of value, and no way to obtain anything of value. And they will probably secretly look down their noses at the country people they want to mooch off of. Nevertheless, it will be hard blocking the freeway exits and telling them and their kids to keep going.
None of this will a nation make. A nation is one people, not this fantastic conglomeration of aliens.
We’re Humpty Dumpty now. And all the king’s horse’s and all the king’s men will not be able to put America back together again.
John maybe you’re right but I do not see people treasuring horses as most people have no idea how to ride, take care of, or utilize these wonderful creatures. Food will consume our every waking thoughts and given the amount of unskilled people in this country we see human labor as a much hotter commodity than horses.
That’s my feeling too, John. Too many assume that the psychopaths in government will let us tune out and do our own thing. They won’t. They are leftist maniacs and can’t stand people being outside their control. We will need to be Amish with defensive options.
I’m not sure how many rural people have considered that “defensive options” will not be enough. At some point they’ll have to go on the offensive. One obviously like problem is what they used to call “nesters”–little bands of people who fled from the cities who have no way to live other than preying on others.
Another problematic type are the liberals who infest even rural areas and who are used to living off of government jobs and and other sources of government money, and otherwise leeching off of their productive neighbors. They are used to having political power. They will try to maintain or reintroduce a system in which they can continue to be leeches.
Both of these types can only be dealt with effectively through proactive offensive measures. The productive community will have to…ahem…”clean the out.”
“Proactive offensive measures.” I like your way of thinking, Anthea! I’m not in good health, so probably won’t survive the kind of societal breakdown we are probably facing. But I’m danged if I’m ever going to cower before the globalist swine.
Ok, so how did our ancestors deal with insectoid pests that ruin crops? Or maybe they didn’t?
Four seeds in a row, one for the rook, one for the crow, one will wither and one will grow.
And then what? Of those that grow, how to protect against bugs?
I don’t know, I’m just quoting old folk wisdom.
If I run across another one, I’ll let you know.
It occurs to me, though, that they had a LOT more birds than we do today.
So they planted extra for the birds and then the birds ate the bugs.
We can’t picture it, but they say that the skies and fields and forests used to be full of birds.
The passenger pigeon darkened the skies with their numbers.
Old time farms were a lot smaller and more diversified. That limits how much bugs can eat, as most bugs have a favorite type of food. So, while you may lose your brassica crop, you’ll be good on corn or potatoes that year. I grow organic (on a small scale) and always figure I’ll lose something. I grew 100 ears of corn in a 4’x4′ area 3 years ago. The next year, the rats got it all. But the pumpkins did well. You have to grow a lot of variety, and more than one staple.
Hedgerows on small farms are important sources of food and shelter for wildlife like birds, who eat bugs. Hedgerows were removed to make the use of large farm machinery possible. Out here in California, they go over the tomato fields with bus-sized machines that pick, strip foliage, chop it and leave it as a mulch, and then drop the tomatoes into a carrier truck the size of a rail-road car, which runs parallel to the picker.
“Six years thou shalt sow thy field, and six years thou shalt prune thy vineyard, and gather in the fruit thereof; but in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the LORD: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard.”
A year of fallow land breaks the insect reproduction cycle. But everyone has to obey the law or they just move to where the food is.
The medieval English standard was three different crops ( I believe one beans, one grain, one misc) then the fourth fallow.
The bugs will just fly (most insects have wings) to your non-fallow fields or to your neighbor’s.
There has been a lot written about natural pest controls. One thing that helps a lot is getting away from mono-crop agriculture. I have always had a lot of trouble with squash bugs. I am told you plant a “trap crop” of a variety of squash that is more relished by bugs, but I’ve never tried this, and I’m not sure what you do with the “trap crop.” I am also told that you can deter white cabbage flies with ordinary flour. You just go out in the garden with a flour sifter and douse the plants. Same with kale and collards. This is another method I haven’t tried. I have gotten rid of “blister bugs” by spraying them with a tea made with cayenne peppers (and lots of stomping on them). Tomato hornworms are easily controlled by hand picking.
The organic gospel maintains that, for the most part, pests are attracted to unhealthy plants, and the plants are unhealthy because the soil is poor. And often the pests are uncontrolled because their predators have been killed off by prior poor agricultural practices.
Back in the day, I read a lot of John Jeavons’s writings on this stuff. But there is plenty of material around, if you want to study up on this. One guy on my Facebook page often quotes Alan Savory, but there are many others.
NewRev…..what does your web link go to gmail???????
“…enriching and fulfilling.” That’s the key.
Technology, with its attendant comforts and distractions, can be addictive in its own right. And addicts are often not able to conceive of a life worth the living without the technology drug.
The flip side is the technocratic elites. I suspect they have their own “Whig version of history:” Before the Industrial Revolution, life was horrible. Most people eked out a precarious living from subsistence farming, their lives alternating between long hours of backbreaking labor and exhaustion. Worse, royalty and clergy kept the people in constant terror. But now many of us are mercifully free of all that, and we want it to stay that way. “How are you going to keep them down on the farm once they’ve seen gay Paree?”
So this leads to a kind of nihilism. Better for humanity to go out with an atomic bang than to return humanity to endless centuries of its former humiliation. Just like the local drug lord who much prefers to to live largely and dangerously for a few brief years before dying in a hail of bullets, rather than to spend decades as a pitiful McBusiness wage slave or cubicle dweller.
End of Whig techno-history. What is missing is the imagination to see that there are more alternatives than (stereotypical) medieval misery or modern-day malaise. Alternatives that you are making real.
Also, future generations will not miss our gadgets; God willing, they’ll be too busy enjoying deeply rooted relationships that are a rarity today. We are the immigrants crossing the Atlantic for the sake of our children. They’ll no doubt hear our tales of the Old World, but let’s hope the stories kindle gratitude for being in the New World.
Wendell Berry has a school in Kentucky that teaches some of these skills.
Soil engagement and health.
How to use a team of mules.
Basic stuff.
His last class was about 20 students or so.
At least its a start.
Thanks Jim for the great read this morning.
Amish are great and they are quiet and don’t fool around.
They make great cheese…
“That’s my idea of how to build back better. What do you think?”
I think it is in line with the spirit of those adapters whose stories you recounted in “Living in the Long Emergency”.
Beautifully said ???
I put a thumbs up and smiley face emoji but they came up as “???” Lol my bad!
‘That’s my idea of how to build back better. What do you think?’
I think the N.A. population is screwed for the most part. We boomers have adopted our parents skills that were acquired from the post war years and those skills that embraced agrarian lifestyles will go only so far because of age. I am 70 now and must admit was going full bore until this milestone and boy have the lights gone regarding the realisation of stamina limits. Nonetheless I will persevere with the big hope that my children and their respective spouses come to our collective rescue. So far they do not see what’s coming despite regular updates at the dinner table.
Our locale in the Ottawa Valley is now rich with Mennonite activity and I often wish their lifestyle was my choice at an early age. I thought I was smart by leaving the big city 46 years ago to come here pursuing a life in the forestry business. Problem now, everything I have to facilitate my simple lifestyle runs on diesel including my wood processor. For now we are OK but going back to spitting with an axe is a no go. I wait for my three girls and their families to become fully aware of the Long Emergency and the World Made by Hand
Graham
The irony of nature. We get older and lose the ability to use the wisdom we have accumulated.
The millennials and “Z” have not had the experiences to guide them forward and will panic as things progress. They will, and have already started depending on the government for help to only find out the government is stupider than they are.
The initial response? Look at the homeless tent cities sprouting up everywhere now. Governments should be ashamed.
It has started, wait until this inflation shows the limitation of socialism by the government to take care of the gimmes. The SHTF day is approaching.
Graham: The Mennonites in Renfrew County are not unlike Jim’s experience with the transient Amish putting roots down in the poorer soil of the Upper New York State. Similarly in Douglas they have made some of those rocky farms into gardens of Eden in about 10 years with horse fertilizing the fields as they till em up. A real parallax from the heavily fertilized and dosed up chemical checkerboard tile drained farms producing soy and corn for ethanol and oils: which will soon become unsustainable – unlike these Mennonites who even produce decent duck eggs to consume.
Besides Renfrew County, can you elaborate where Mennonites live in the Ottawa Valley ? Used to live in Ottawa eons ago. Thanks !
They have actually migrated up from southern Ontario in the circle between Orangeville and Owen Sound. Land was cheaper here they say so we have been blessed to have them come and turn these rock farms into there former producing status. Last year in Douglas area a generational farm came up for auction and the Mennonites wowed the audience and paid over a million cash for it. 250 acres.
Many of the Mennonites use tractors from what I’ve heard.
Thoreau adopted a very austere vegetarian diet, most just cabbage or something. Where will you get your strength, someone asked? Where does he get his strength, Thoreau replied, pointing to a work horse.
Jarek: Yeah but Henry we’re not horses and we can’t synthesize proteins like they do.
Some believe that this inadequate diet, led to him contracting TB (the scourge of that civilization) and his early death.
There’s a sort of art film, Silent Light, it’s weird and is set in a Mennonite community in Mexico. I didn’t know there were Mennonites in Mexico. They’re sort of the modern Amish.
The movie has scenes of farming . That’s the arty part, you wouldn’t believe how beautiful farming with machinery could be made to look.
was he hung like a hoss?
I think the Amish skills school sounds like a great idea.
There is no end of topics that could be taught – farming, food preservation, light construction, blacksmithing, woodworking, just to name a few.
Morals.
Sign me up!
James Howard: Superb idea. Factor in lodging and vittles. Presentation as to why one needs said beasts of burden, how to acquire, house, feed and train. Then harness and direct.
For those still in love fantasizing on how the brilliant centuries old plan of evil geniuses will enslave those unlucky enough to survive the perfectly orchestrated destruction of Homo sapiens, do not read about how the -now former- head of Iran’s Quds force got capped. Nor the list of ALL Davos attendees. And, for God’s sake, do not connect the two. Y’all seem to NEED this absurd fantasy.
In times past, there were three very wise men, any one of whose intellect would surpassed the combined davos IQ. Dean Rusk, McGeorge Bundy and Robert McNamara. They looked upon a small Asian country, weakened by 25+ years of war, poor, unshod masses yearning for a strong guiding democratic preaching savior. Directing their massive intellect – coupled with the mightiest military force extant – they, along with the country behind them, got their asses royally kicked over the course of ten or so years.
Yet these davos clowns are going to destroy all societies and rule over the leftovers?!!
That’s some serious cognitive dissonance boys and girls. Nuff Said.
Getsome. It’s probably true about the ultimate idiocy of the Davos crowd. However, the point is that even if they fail, their efforts will cause immense damage. These people need to be kicked out of public life.
Kicked out of public life? How hanging them and watching their legs kick? After a just and speedy trial as is their right. The speedier the better, as is our right.
That’s what I wanted to write, Jarek, but I don’t have your killer instinct! 🙂
You can’t murder a murderer.
There are some practical skills schools around the country. Take a look at Tillers International.org. Doc Hammermill has a horsemanship school in Montana. You might want to spring for a years worth of the Sugar Creek national edition, a Plain people news source from Sugar Creek, Ohio. I believe that is about $45 a year for a weekly newspaper. If you are anywhere near Montgomery, Indiana on July 1st and 2nd,you could attend Horse Progress Days. Animal powered tech has continued to advance. There’s also Small Farmer’s Journal, 4 issues @ $47 per year.
Frankly, reading these publications will make you want to retain the tech you have but they do show that life can be pleasant without it. Best of luck to every one.
with open borders, what skills will save me?
Second, third, and fourth languages?
There’s never a bad time to pick up some basic Spanish on one of the many language sites.
word from silicon valley, learn mandarin.
just heard a talk by skousen. he says panama will fall to the chinese.
talk is at utube / liberty n finance.
Regarding language learning, I found it notable to learn that the PRC investors in southern Africa (not sure if South Africa) are requiring their local hires to study Mandarin Chinese.
That not only indicates that they are in Africa for the long run – not just smash’n’grab like the Euro-colonialists – but that they are dedicated to instilling a “Chinese mindset” in those rough societies.
I say “More power to them”. The Africans have fucked up their continent royally, often with the connivance of greedy paleface buccaneers. Let the Chinese see whether they can make it a decent, safe, hard-working, orderly place to live.
(I know – “rots-a-ruck” but I still find the effort fascinating.)
As for Latinoamerica, ditto. They may well be ready for a ruthless, smooth, totalitarian ethos, considering the failure and despair that afflicts the continent.
Panama is a classic case (basket case, at least without the income from the canal). Wasn’t it John McCain who suggested Uncle should barge right in and take over the whole country again?
Whitey’s day is done. He’s shot his wad. “President Biden” is wasting his time and plenty of hydrocarbons touring East Asia. Smiles, photo ops, a few million spread around here and there to the current ruling class. And when he’s gone, he’s gone.
It will be interesting to see how he intends to “defend” Taiwan against the PLA, Chinese Navy and so on. And to do so without launching a nuclear attack on our banker I mean the Pipple’s Republic.
Williamsburg Virginia is a start from skills reclamation. They still use the apprenticeship method of passing skills.
Old Sturbridge?
BTW, all the East Coasters that will want to move west?
It is awful dry out here. MaryQueen found out that a move from LA to Boise did not change her climate much, heat wise. Right?
The dryness and increased chance of wildfires are what give me pause about moving West.
We simply don’t have anywhere similar to that here in the East.
The wildfires in the West move differently from fires in the East. West moves treetop to treetop, East moves along the ground and the undergrowth.
More a comment, observation, or whatever one might call it.
I’m in California, been here for 40 years, originally from NYC. The climate has changed considerably in those 40 years. It’s much drier and warmer.
What Easterners don’t understand about the west is that everywhere 50 miles west of the Mississippi is basically desert, and should have been left in its natural state. The buffalo (or cattle) should have been left on the plains, instead of plowing it up and growing grain monocultures. The only reason it was possible to agrify the west was because of stupendous use of ground water and dams. Well, those aquifers are almost used up, and the dammed up water is now so low, it can’t run the electric turbines. Party’s over out here.
Oh yes it did! CA is temperate all year round with some cold days. But Idaho has a real winter. Big diff!
The similarity is the dryness/desert climate.
Well, ladies and germs;
Situational awareness this AM reports;
PRESIDENT BIDEN VISITS TOKYO, ABANDONS STRATEGIC AMBIGUITY ON TAIWAN: On Monday, in a joint press conference with Japan’s President Fumio Kishida, President Biden stated that if Taiwan were attacked by China, the U.S. would come to its defense. This is the first time a President has openly stated that the U.S. would defend Taiwan against China and is a significant marker that the U.S. is abandoning both the concept of strategic ambiguity and its former “one China” policy. Beijing responded by saying the issue is “purely a Chinese internal affair which brooks no further interference… Nobody should stand against the 1.4 billion Chinese people”. – M.M.
I would suggest that:
The Rubicon has been crossed…or
The die is cast…or
The shit is in the fire…or…or…
Well, you know what I mean Apparently, with the litany of other issues on his plate, Biden needs a bit of drama in our foreign affairs, and China has repeatedly responded when theTaiwan button is pushed.
If we are not yet “In it now”…we will be soon.
The monkeys will be used as a pretext for invasion. With 1.4B people and god only knows how many monkeys on board, the Chinese will be a formidable foe. “The Joe Biden” is playing with fire.
Back in those simpler times, if you injured yourself doing things by hand, you often died of blood poisoning or walked around with a limp the rest of your life.
There are tradeoffs.
Yes, penicillin wasn’t available until the early 1940s if I’m not mistaken.
A limp what?
Beryl – you are right. I have a limp from a horse riding accident, I tore my ACL when I landed. Horses are dangerous – everyone I know that had or rode horses has had some injury or other. Speaking from experience, I’ll say that bicycles are safer.
Agree about horses, but bicycles are only safer if there are no cars around.
Of course, that’s what we are talking about here.
Paula, I have sustained a series of minor but painful injuries riding my mountain bikes since 2005 – much more than I got from fifty years of high-speed motorcycling, on and off public roads.
There is a similarity to horse riding: you are going to fall, and likely fall hard. Not if but when. If you can’t take the pain then avoid riding.
Yes, I was referring to bikes as transportation though.
And I quit riding a while back when my sister fell off a horse and injured her back. It really slowed her up.
I had injuries as a teenager, but I wasn’t willing to fall off as an old person.
Very true. I did a good deal of horseback riding in central Tennessee’s hills and hollers. Never fell. Never seriously injured, but many, many close calls. Saw lots of others get hurt. Comes with the territory.
I marvel at how Gen. Forrest and his men rode like demons across this same countryside for years fighting from horseback during the War to Teach the Damnyankees Some Manners.
Tough sons of bitches.
Less risk than injecting MRNA though. So, hey.
Many strategic fires happening in USA.
Are they arsons? from who or where?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRB9JuOiPxU
Morning Jim – excellent post today! Thanks.
“I enjoyed the strange delight of being transported briefly into a scene of my own imagining” ~ JHK
I enjoyed the strange delight of being transported briefly into a scene of your own imagining (again). Thanks for that – time for a reread of WMBH and a read for anyone who has not yet read it.
You may or may not know about Eustace Conway, down at his Turtle Island preserve outside of Boone, NC – teaching the “old ways”. A legend in his own time – not unlike you.
His life story written by Elizabeth Gilbert – The Last American Man – is incredible. Throughout his life & now at 60 years old, he is larger than life and a personal hero to many I would guess, myself included.
He may well be The Last American Man – hopefully young men might follow in his footsteps, but I’m not so sure that’ll happen. Who knows, maybe BBB (the sane version) will include building back better young men.
After reading all these comments about farming, carpentry, horses, mules, and so on, I feel like I have a duty to report that large animals can be very dangerous, even the friendliest ones, cuz, well they’re animals, they’re large, and despite lots of training, they still have minds of their own. My wife, racehorse trainer, lost a chunk of her nose from a playful nip, and was sent to Shock/Trauma by a foal that machine-gunned her chest while still in the stall. A baby, for cryin’ out loud. Ex-brother-in-law also lost a chunk of his facial cheek, and another woman, very experienced, has a four-inch scar across her face.
It takes lots of experience to handle horses, mules, cattle, etc. Better get started!
I’ll admit I’ve had little experience with horses or mules. I do have a lot of motorcycle experience. I would think some good modern MX gear would work wonders around the brutes. A full face helmet and chest protector for starters. Maybe the gear would scare the animals? I’m sure the rodeo guys must have some good stuff they use. They go out of their way to antagonize the beasts.
Some of this wishful thinking on energy is bizarre indeed, even from the highest levels. For example, our Governor insists Ct will be “fossil fuel free” by the year 2030, a scant 7.5 years from now. Plans are in the works to close our one nuclear power plant by that time, as well as several other power plants fueled by natgas. It will take an estimated 12000-15000 wind turbines to replace the amount of electricity lost when those legacy plants are closed; currently we have 3, and one is broken down. What’s more, the whole grid has to be replaced to handle this new system of wind turbines but I don’t see any work at all being done on transmission lines and the like. This whole “Energy Transition” thing seems like wishful thinking at best, a scam at worst.
Also, The EV Revolution. What revolution? Rivian and Lucid are being touted every day on CNBC. The Lucid supposedly available now is priced at $179,000, the Rivian truck at $83,500 plus a $15,500 required subscription. WHO WILL BE BUYING THESE THINGS?
Marlin, maybe the gov knows something we don’t.
Who’d have thought, in America, one elected person would assume the authority to order us all how we are henceforth to live?
That we’d put up with it?
Our entire way of life is because elected people paid for the electric grid, planned the highways, zoned for suburbs, paid the farmers and made deals for the oil.
Now we are surplus.
How do they say it in the mafia movies? Nothing personal, just business.
BRH: I think what will happen is this: they will go hell for leather for their big green reset. It will cause massive misery. People will (finally!) rise up, and some kind of energy normality will be restored – if only for the time being. Even the sheep we’ve seen over the last two years don’t like freezing to death or forcing granny to ride the dynamo bike in the basement all night so they can watch re-runs of Friends.
Millstone, Marlin?
That’s the one, my friend.
Crusher, I follow RI news a little, you have your own problems with Climate Cranks in State Government interfering with the electrical grid, indeed, trying to dismantle it.
BRH: https://www.whsthelancelot.com/news/2020/01/31/millstone-past-present-and-future/
Who isn’t the slightly curious about the Amish? Maybe you could just do youtube interviews on their location without having the real estate involvement, unless you were thinking of advantages of having a faming interest of your own as well.
I’d sign up for some Amish lessons!
I live in Boonville, MO. We have a lot of Mennonite families in this area. Last week I heard the clippy clop of hooves, and a team of nice mules trotted by, pulling a large carriage.
Q: Anyone notice how we leapfrogged over killing chickens for bird flu and landed on monkey pox?
I forgot about bird flu. It’s just not scary enough, they keep trying, but the bird flu does not cooperate.
They probably realized the bird flu wasn’t translating into mass summer hysteria they way they’d hoped.
It must be tough for the dems trying to think up the mother of all scares for November. Ukraine is slipping towards the sports pages, Covid is a clunker, and monkey pox is likely a loser. WW3 is still an option, but they have their work cut out.
They need a major false flag to sell WW3 at this point.
Something on the level of the Statue of Liberty getting nuked by Russia during the 4thbof July fireworks might do it.
Oh no! Russia! Russia! Russia!
Not really having any idea what they will try pulling off for the big false flag event, sure, the Statue of Liberty.
I think this continually poking the bear isn’t going to end well. At some point they might just vaporize someplace where the weapons to keep the war going are coming from.
Putin’s March 2018 lengthy address with video graphics depicting what was on line and close to being on line should be enough to stop the bear-poking. However, greed has no bounds. The proxy war being waged is unparalleled in its prime purpose to continue enriching certain families and companies of the MIC.
The continual stream of celebrity types to the capital city of the territory referred to as Ukraine should be a tipoff there is more afoot than some contrived stories of Azov types becoming the enemy at the gates.
“It’s given me a business idea: to start an Amish skills school, buy a few acres with a barn and hire some Amish men to teach all us non-Amish how do a few things that might be good to know in the years ahead, like how to harness horses to a cart or a mule to a plow. (The Amish like to make a bit of cash-money when they can.) That’s my idea of how to build back better. What do you think?”
What do I think? Brilliant.
My grandparents retired to Lancaster Co., PA and lived there or 20 years or so before their passing. I’ve daydreamed recently about heading up there, knocking on a door and asking of they need farmhands in order to gain experience homesteading. Having some experience, from my grandmother’s background growing up on a farm to her expansive gardens – she rarely had to buy produce – and observations from visits to her Amish neighbors, I want to caution backyard gardeners who think they could cultivate their own: we have no idea what it takes to live like the Amish.
I’m a backyard/community garden gardener, and I grow a LOT in a very small area. It all comes down to soil. The trick is to build the soil into terra preta. I keep quail, and compost the poop.
Yes, it all comes down to soil.
This seems to be what Gustav is not getting about the difference between monoculture and Amiculture.
Amiculture stresses building the soil via crop rotation, letting fields get R&R via lying fallow, fertilizing with manure to build microorganisms in soil, using draft animals instead of tractors (easier on earth; no fossil inputs), knowing in which season to do what—
I am not any kind of expert, although I have read up quite a lot on the history of agriculture. And, I can learn!
I did watch the videos I linked and the Amish seem to have developed a pretty good system for actually putting in place basic concepts of productive agriculture based in soil building that is NOT monoculture, but on a larger scale (e.g.k 40-acre farm, not 1-acre, but 40 acres is about the max that one can farm this way).
Others are doing the same or similar, on a smaller scale
Another source of good, extremely practical, step-by-step instruction (with photos) for “waste-free farming” that incorporates the Japanese concept of kaizen and the “lean” approach is Ben Hartman. See his The Lean Farm: Guide to Growing Vegetables (Chelsea Green Publishing). Detailed resource guide at the back of the book.
This is about gardening for a living, not backyard gardening for family supply.
The Amish like to make a bit of cash-money when they can. – geomo quoting JHK
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The Amish are first rate capitalists. I’m sure this doesn’t make Jarek happy.
(madness is freedom : freedom is madness)
The body can’t escape the cause-effect chain; it is doubtful that the mind can. But if it can, is the non-causal space the land of the non-sequitur?
(who wants to be free?
who wants to be insane?)
Love the Amish Skills Academy idea, Mr K! I’ve been thinking about doing the very same thing down here in north-central Maryland. And I love their cash-based society too. Go for it! If it’s even modestly successful, you can be sure somebody from the gummint will be on your trail right soon too. Bastards!
I like the idea of an ‘Amish Skills School’. Except for the unfortunate initials, we might be able to convince our students that meat and corn come from a farm and not a shelf, or that you don’t need Ikea to fill up an apartment.
I think we tried to do this in the 1960’s with Stewart Brand’s Whole Earth Catalog. The scary thought is that the very same people that bought the catalog and thought it was so-o-o cool are now running the country. Happily, they are in their 60’s and 70’s.
In any event, time marches on. We’ll need a school song. I’d be happy to design the school crest. Let me know.
The same ones who say Connecticut will be carbon neutral by 2030. They never really understood science and don’t want to either.
We could just plagiarize and modify the Green Acres theme.
As long as Mr. Haney can be the bursar.
Wonderful essay, Mr K.
We’re in Tennessee up on the Cumberland plateau. There is an Amish community here too. A couple of them have helped us with building and fencing. They’re smart, hard working, with good carpentry skills. Sadly, the trait of hemophilia runs through their lineage, and in one family of 8, 3 have it. The others are carriers.
But testosterone laden rednecks on the roads, and the relatively delicate carts drawn by their delicate horses (who have Morgan blood) = a dangerous combination. Last year one was rear ended by a pickup truck. Both parents and several of the children were killed. The horse too. So please be careful driving, while we can still drive. Go slow, avoid killing things. If you see a turtle trying to cross the road, stop, put on your caution lights, and carry it to the side of the road in the direction it was headed. We’re all in this together. And pray.
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Yes, guys in pickup trucks are sometimes the worst of the worst. Many of the trucks are never used to carry anything – purely egotistical masculine display.
The Hummer drivers were the worst out there.
On-road Jeep Wrangler drivers are pretty awful as well. You constantly see them doing 15 and 20 over, dissecting traffic on their mud tires and jacked up suspensions.
It’s like they need us to know their vehicle isn’t just for off-roading.
Well, you got the new GM Hummer EV coming down the pike, 10,000 lbs. fully loaded, MSRP $139,000.
Are you ready to “Go Green?”
Please, God…no…just no…
Two social credit points deducted from your account for failing to mention GM’s commitment to diversity throught its expansive child cobalt mining program, which supports our most disadvantaged communities with reliable high-hour-count jobs.
Yeah, Jarek – I call them Dumb Dodge Drivers. Idiots in black smoke blasting loud oversized trucks that they don’t use for work. Heaven help you if you want to ride your bicycle on a country road around here.
” I call them Dumb Dodge Drivers.”
Rainmaker,
Idiots. I did not know that about myself…1996 Dodge Cummins diesel, dually, hydraulic dump bed. I’ve been retired for…37 years.
Oh yeah….
Power Wagon?
BRH,
Ram. If they still make a Power Wagon, I am not aware of it.
And…the link;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Power_Wagon#:~:text=The%20Dodge%20Power%20Wagon%20is,1945%20to%201980%20by%20Dodge.
“Yes, guys in pickup trucks are sometimes the worst of the worst. Many of the trucks are never used to carry anything – purely egotistical masculine display.”
Ego?
Hunh….how do you characterize those who use the living hell out of their trucks? Heavy towing/hauling on a regular basis?
Isn’t Ego the reason people have any kind of big car? I have a small car because I travel a lot and my income isn’t that high. I’m constantly amazed at how the enormous cars people drive. They can’t go any faster than mine without getting a speeding ticket and they are just as stuck as me in the traffic jams. And then there’s the tax and gas costs.
There used to be a guy who lived upstairs from me (here in the city) who drove a huge pick-up truck. Never had anything in the bed, it was his daily driver. I once saw him sitting in it while it was parked below my kitchen window, jerking off.
Sounds like a charming fellow.
CC,
Finish him off! Tell us of his lack of…gifts.
Many of the trucks are never used to carry anything – purely egotistical masculine display. – Jarek
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There’s a lot of truth in ^this^. I shopped around for a year or two before I bought my RAM 1500. I looked at every kind of pick up known to man. The salesmen would ask me what I intended to use it for and I would tell them only half jokingly “I have absolutely no need for a truck, I just want to look cool. My plan is to have a couple of 8 ft 2x4s sticking out of the bed with a red flag attached to the end” and that is exactly what I did. But then you find out that both you and everybody in your family has need for a truck every now and then. It’s very handy, plus it’s super comfortable.
I’ve actually had a guy at the firehouse with a pretty boy truck ask if he could borrow mine to get a load of mulch. His statement, “I can’t put that shit in my truck'” I told him to fuck off.
OMG, the friggin’ nerve!
An interesting subculture destined to surface at the appointed time shall be the fellowship of model railroaders; the DIY purists who know how railway track is constructed- smooth riding & fast running. These people can build a real railway on abandoned rights-of-ways (Trails To Rails the new political correctness) with horses & wagons & come-alongs if necessary. If this octogenarian can do it….
Able-bodied legions of US Army Railroad Operating Battalions will provide track machinery & muscle mentored by those with railway engineering savvy. Like yours truly. See the Army Base at Ft. Eustis VA , remaining example and template for DOD RR Transportation Units.
Through recent decades mainline railways have shrunk and consolidated their utmost, aided by pea-brained city officials all to happy to remove metro railway spurs and vestiges of “unsightly railroad tracks -ugh! Early Famine Hedge step should include tax-exempt status for railways again used for food distribution? Trails offer fastest means of getting rails back to agriculture loading districts. Thomas Bros Maps circa 1940’s help new generation youthful Civil Engineers how to flow the downtown tracks into warehouse districts an farmer’s markets.
Along with the military railway organizations, number one go-to present day secondary savvy rail line human resource is “American Short Line Regional Railroad Association”, crucial for engineering new branch line junctions with existing trunk mains. Armchair observers can help by obtaining Mike Walker Publishing offers “US Railway Map Atlas Volume, over a dozen regional map gazettes of North American rail lines -past & present- Please get spares for your respective County Planning Bureaus/OES Offices.
Contact Walker: Also, heritage Mexican and Canadian railway maps including abandonments are available from Walker Publishing. Canadian Wheat trust Provinces, recently stripped of rail links, must get back into rail play in the Famine Hedge role. Union Pacific is purportedly well staffed with persons of the Mormon persuasion; Mormons following these lines can share & encourage Omaha along the branch railway line renaissance!
“Second Dimension Surface Transport Logistics Platform” was Army lingo for RR. -When America was a lending not a borrowing nation-
“Many more Amish are landing in the county these days. I hear they go around to the failing or inactive farms with bundles of cash and make an offer, just like that. Evidently the method works. It’s given me a business idea: to start an Amish skills school, buy a few acres with a barn and hire some Amish men to teach all us non-Amish how do a few things that might be good to know in the years ahead, like how to harness horses to a cart or a mule to a plow. (The Amish like to make a bit of cash-money when they can.) That’s my idea of how to build back better. What do you think?”
Excellent idea James! That’s a great example of turning a problem into a solution. Run with it.
And really it should now be rephrased as “Build Back Broken” because that’s what Klaus Schwab will get instead.
He doesn’t seem to have the faintest clue you can’t run a global digital panopticon upon an unstable, unreliable green grid.
There is no and never will be a green grid. The term green is the rhetorical shroud over the digital prison walls being raised around you.
Oh, they’re trying.
But they’re shutting down all the coal, gas, and nuclear plants they need to power all the server farms in their dystopia.
Good luck with that!
Those plants they are shutting down are to push us peons into the Great Reset corral.
If you think they will rely on a green grid to power the beast system, then I would have to disagree.
We’ve already tried a green grid. It was called The Dark Ages. As for the digital prison, did you hear that scumbag, Bourla yesterday? “Imagine the compliance!” And this guy’s parents survived the Holocaust!
AOC’s chief of staff Chakrabarti openly laughed and admitted the “Green New Deal” was nothing but a vehicle for complete take over of the economy. He resigned shortly after that.
Happy that Jim brought up teaching of sustainable living and homesteading skills.
May I direct the attention of the gentle readers of this blog to the Brazos de Dios community in Elm Mott, TX (bit north of Waco off I-35) and their permanently established school, the Ploughshare Institute, teaching exactly those skills.
https://www.sustainlife.org/
There are free videos on key sustainable skills on the site. I have attended two classes in the School of Woodworking (they teach traditional woodworking with hand tools.) At one time, maybe now, they taught plowing with mules.
Well worth the time to check out.
Newsflash from the road: we will all probably be going Amish soon. Just back from a ten day road trip for a family memorial service in Iowa and a vacation to the Black Hills of South Dakota and I can state with certainty that America doesn’t run on Dunkin…it runs on DIESEL!
From small farm tractors to mammoth harrows and planters; from backhoes digging up pavement on the interstate to the rock grinders that eat it up’; from trains miles and miles long to tugboats pushing barges up and down the Mississippi. Mining equipment, logging equipment and of course over the road trucks.
Relatives in Iowa tell me that corn planting is very late this year due mostly to cool and dry weather. Corn usually takes 100 days until harvest so May15 is usually the latest but this year they are pushing it out to the 25th.
It was wonderful to get out and really “see” America and what makes our culture go. It’s a very fragile system and the price of diesel is hammering it into the ground.
Duh?
The highly distributed US lifestyle was a one-off affair that lasted from 1920-2020.
It didn’t exist at any time under any condition during the preceding eons, and is quickly coming to an unglorious end as we speak.
People who mourn over its passing or issue vague doom warnings act like it’s a tragedy, when in fact it was entirely built on fantasy. We are now reverting back to the mean, which means constrained urban.
You can either understand these facts and begin to position yourself (if previously failing to do so), or join the starving masses as it becomes too expensive to drive, to expensive to operate (small) farm machinery, or impossible to maintain equipment given the lack of spare parts.
Thanks, Farmgal, for the report from the road.
I truly don’t understand the confidence people express when they declare the WEF won’t prevail. News flash: they are already winning, and have been doing so for a long time.
By all indications, even in the face of evidence and the recent trend of operating in the open, they are still facing zero resistance as they go about steamrolling everything in its path.
I guess this logical failure results from lacking the ability to link a broad array of current trends/events to intentional strategic sabotage being conducted to ensure full spectrum control during the rapidly approaching end game stages.
(Lack of IQ ability among the 2% is doubtful; rather it’s judt a demonstration of willful ignorance aka *denial*. It’s just so much more comforting to convince yourself it’s just one giant cluster rather an intentional program to first neutralize, then remove you/yours from the playing field.)
As far as educating people about the underlying causal factors to perhaps mount some kind of broad based grass roots resistance, good luck kid, go knock yourself out.
First, the general population is simply not smart enough. 100 doesnt cut it, you need 110 to suspect; two, even those who are capable will deny the facts and even refuse to read/consider if literally handed the information; and three, knowing the horrible truth, many conclude not to worry, but simply play out the clock having a good time.
This is why the WEF is winning, and will ultimately emerge triumphant. It’s why I follow what they’re doing, and shadow/anticipate/understand each step, each program, each initiative, and make my moves accordingly.
Mitch, it was Alexander Solzhenitsyn, surveying the left in the United States and Great Britain, that very often it’s the most intelligent people who are the biggest dupes.
nonsense. emotional intelligence? moral IQ?
Zero Resistance? What a dumb comment to make. No they are not winning, in fact they are losing because they sense resistance around the world and are becoming more desperate in their actions. That’s how you know when the opposition is losing !
Heck, apparently the Schwabster himself just presented a slide at the WEF meeting that recognized economic nationalism was on the rise to the detriment of globalism.
Mitch, you may be right. I hope you are wrong. However, your error is to conflate IQ and intelligence. Sure, the WEF goons have big IQs. But they have no awareness of reality and are blinded by their insane arrogance. That will be their downfall. Even an intelligent minority of resistants will outnumber them massively.
I am skeptical about the IQ of “the WEF goons,” along with the various and sundry other goons among the ruling class. As with the royalty and aristocracy of the past, they are not in these positions of wealth and power because of their own merits. It’s not like they worked their way through pharmacy school and invented penicillin on their days off and got a lot of money that way. For the most part, they have never been trained in any skill or knowledge base, other than those that promote the interests of their class. Most will not be highly motivated to excel at anything, since they have nothing more to desire in the way of money and prestige.
I wouldn’t bet on their intelligence (or IQ) being much higher than average, overall.
IQ is largely inherited. Character is not, though some emotional tendencies might be.
They are much smarter than average people. I don’t say better or wiser.
Yes! Viva The Long Emergency. Build back better World Made By Hand novels! That was your forte, your strong hand. No more hopium about DOJ indictments, leave it doggy!, in which we detect a residue of your defunct NYC Dem party liberalism. Isn’t it obvious by now, as astute students of political economy have long ago demonstrated, that the DOJ, like all of govt and other major institutions of capitalist society, are little more than tools of a ruling class of financial and corporate elites?
Coincidentally, the version of horse farming that I practiced for thirty years in the southern tier hills of upstate NY suffered the same Amish invasion 20 years ago as your Saratoga region today.
Jim, have you heard of this place?
Adirondack Folk School.
https://adirondackfolkschool.org/
Beryl? Do you know of it? Seems expensive, but then again, maybe not?
Anybody?
I think I saw a writeup once, probably in Adirondack Life. I don’t personally know anyone with firsthand knowledge of it.
Amish school sounds like a great idea. Best of luck, Mr K.
“Unfortunately, the vaccination scheme has gone very much awry …”
Call me cynical – and I certainly have become excessively so over the last year – but I think it’s gone very much as planned, apart from so many people deciding not to keep getting boosted, and so many finding out what’s going on.
So, monkeypox, then HIV? Then Marburg, if we’re really unlucky. You’d think even the dopey would start to ask themselves how life became so relentlessly pathologised.
I dead, and fifteen with “injuries” after the Brooklyn Half Marathon?
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/21/us/brooklyn-half-marathon-dead-injured/index.html
Thanks, Beryl.
Nothing to see here (or something).
My opinion and experience is 1/2 marathons are populated in part by individuals working towards a marathon. They are in rather good shape, have an idea about their limits and what they are pushing to improve. Many are moving up from 10K.
It will be interesting if they release any further information with substance or put out a fluff piece instead.
When I clicked on the link, the first thing I saw was two obviously obese ladies running the race. Good shape indeed.
best I can say is, if such was the case, zero-experience runners
Right. CNN couldn’t blame it on the temps (60s to mid 70s), hence the high humidity reported. Not a word about the real culprit.
Just read that ALL of the injured and the dead person were vaxxed up.
Thanks for all the info. on the previous thread, Mary (supplements and stuff) – I’ll paste it in an email and send it to myself! I’m taking a few already. Might have to cut down the Vit D a bit.
I was surprised my naturopath dr. had me cut down to 5K UI from 10K UI (which I had only upped from 5K recently).
You are welcome – as I learn stuff, I’ll post it.
Quelle Surprise!
I take 10,000 IU , but I split it into 5,000 IU BID. What I came up with after some research was 8,000 + not quite 9,000 IU was reasonable for me, split as I have suggested. Difficult to dose, therefore 5,000 IU BID is close enough
It’s the individual’s body uptake which makes a difference.
Start low, work up. One can always add a little more, it’s the getting it back out where difficulty enters the picture.
“You’d think even the dopey…”
I’ll go along with ‘dopey’. They’re dopey for a reason, a lifestyle choice for some perhaps?
“By all indications, even in the face of evidence and the recent trend of operating in the open, they are still facing zero resistance as they go about steamrolling everything in its path.”
Really? You must not have been paying attention to the Canadian Truckers i.e. “Truck You Trudeau”. French protest and riots, riots and protests in Sri Lanka. That’s just for starters. There’s growing pushback around the world. You want to see real violence? Wait for starvation to take hold around the world as is happening in Sri Lanka and Yemen.
Just wait until the Plebs connect the dots that this is being done on purpose around the world by its corrupt leaders. Expect the internet to get taken down.
You are getting the illusion there’s ZERO RESISTANCE” because the Government Media doesn’t want you to know, what’s really happening behind the scenes. Which is people are getting worried about feeding their families.
You want a great example how the Media is working the Plebs? Here’s one! You’ve heard about the Baby Formula shortages in the US, right? Well that’s not the case as we’ve shipped shit loads of our Baby Formula to Mexico.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/baby-formula-available-for-illegal-immigrants/
Trudeau who’s a Klaus Schwab puppet demands his people get vaccinated or else. Yet, he’s waved that requirement for Ukrainian Refugees who enter his Country. Where’s the Media reporting this shit? They don’t because the Government and Media are now one and the same.
You might want to rethink the “Zero Resistance” because resistance has taken hold and is in fact growing around the world.
Duh? Thanx for informing us of the basics and explaining the truth. LOL
Seriously, you are demonstrating the D-K effect so well I can sense the cringe crying out across the interwebs.
The truckers, as you know, were broken like bitches. Too bad about their finances seized, their operating licenses cancelled. How stupid would you have to be to fail to see that rule of law is declared null & void when the state is threatened?
On that note, police and military havent even flexed once in response to riots and social disorder. Ordered to stand down 2 years ago, that won’t be the case when those slated for replacement wake up to find themselves in the hog chute.
But you keep doing you; I enjoy the petulant defiance, the puny fist shaking in impotent fury.
I’ll remind you of “History” which you seem to ignore or possibly are quite ignorant about. Throughout thousands of years of human history these tactics always end with “pitchforks and torches”. You seem to forget the Arab Spring which brought down theTunisia, Egypt, Libya, and Yemen Govt’s without firearms.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/arab-spring-cause
When governments impose authoritarian tactics, they usually work for awhile until the people snap. So while you seem clueless and ignore history, i’ll remind you of one basic human element to the equation. Ready?
Here it is: “When people lose everything and have nothing else to lose, THEY LOSE IT”. That’s where this is all headed and it’s already taking shape around the world.
@MC – I wanted to comment on what a smug, supercilious asshole you were but my manners got the better of me.
I’m not sure what Mitchellc hopes to accomplish here with his sneering displays of superiority over anyone who dares to hope for anything. I, for one, don’t care how well he has prepared. He doesn’t have the one thing that will be necessary in order to survive: friends. He may shove everyone else out of the way and leap into the lifeboat, but he won’t last long there. People loathe cruel, morally deficient, smug sociopaths. Before you know it, they’ll have tossed him overboard and redistributed his ill-gotten gains.
He’s got money and he wants you to know it. Somebody will put a target on his smug ass.
Farmgal—he is a troll.
I ignore him.
Pass right over.
Smug and rude and . . . trollish.
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Don’t step in my fighting hole,asshat
@ mitchellc:
Your point is of course that there is little sense in trying to combat these monsters with some of the methods we see in use. Trucker convoys, yellow vests, and various other forms of protest have the sole advantage of creating a broader public awareness that there IS resistance.
On the other hand, throwing in your lot with elements that you know to be criminal, immoral, and anti-human is never a good decision. This too has very real consequences–and I’m not talking about in some afterlife, either. Kissing cats’ assholes is one of the lesser indignities.
There are methods that do work for combatting monsters. Resistance has so far been ineffective because the strategies are poor and ill-considered, people are nowhere near mad enough, and nowhere near being ready to make the necessary sacrifices.
I will not mention the violent methods. The non-violent methods begin with nurturing spirituality, civilization, and proper feeling within your own sphere, and following the good Biblical advice to, “Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” This latter can be done at a number of levels. It could involve refusing the vax, quitting your job in health care or in the pharmaceutical industry, taking your kids out of the public schools, moving out of the city, etc.
This is what the Mennonites did in the 1500s.
The Canadian truckers at least shut things down for a bit. The American truckers completely wimped out and were banished from the capital. They just drove around the loop in circles tying up traffic a little. If they would stick together they could get anything they wanted.
The trouble with the often-suggested methods of either a general strike or a truckers’ strike–to “bring the economy to its knees” and thus presumably cause significant pain to those in power–is that economic destruction is precisely the goal of the elites.
THEY forced a general shutting down of the economy over the covid farce. They have forced further economic destruction through energy policies, the sanctions against Russia, etc. THEY are seeking to wreck the economy.
It thus kind of irritates me that Karl Denninger has so often suggested a general strike. Our ruling class would LOVE that.
I read a lot of Karl Denninger (The Market Ticker), but he does irritate me. He’s getting more and more angry and embittered, and thinks he’s the only person doing anything. And I’m not sure what he does actually do in the way of resistance, apart from issue tirades.
Is it effective resistance?
I’m with you and the resisters. I even attended RFK Jr’s rally in DC.
At this time, US hospital employees must be vaxxed; US military must be vaxxed; some employers required the vaxx. Some employers have reinstituted masks.
I cannot go to a family wedding in Canada because I cannot enter the country unvaxxed without a 2-week quarantine. I also understand I cannot ride an bus, train, or aircraft in Canada if I am not vaxed.
Resistance is there, more than what media says, yes. But the rules, which are enforceable, remain.
And now, the situation in Ukraine, has divided those who are against the vaxx and for individual freedom into the anti-vaxxers who support the collective West’s misguided war, and those who see thru the BS and do not.
Good post.
This is why many of the organizations in the fight against the Covid fraud are focusing on the PCR test, as the fraudulent test was the sole basis for the fraudulent pandemic.
This is the only line of attack that matters with regard to reversing the unprecedented assault on bodily autonomy and freedom.
The genesis for the entire so-called pandemic is a fraud; therefore, any regulations that are based on the fraud are, ofc, fraudulent.
Though correct, many people will continue to cower and obey rather than admit they fell for the lie.
It takes a strong person to admit this sort of thing. Most are weak.
I’m not so sure about the Amish.
The ones around here seem to rely on the rest of us for their income, and none of them have horse drawn wagons.
Must be Reformed.
I would like to learn practical stuff though.
I went to a How To Grow Organic Fruit seminar one time and it was packed.
What he told us was You Can’t Grow Organic Fruit in the Ozarks unless it’s mulberries and pawpaws.
The Amish wheat farmers in Kansas were losing horses to the heat. They adapted to using tractors. Now they drive the tractors just like cars, accept slower.
Smorgasbord religion is like that.
In most cases, it’s not that you can’t grow organic fruit; it’s that you can’t grow it for sale. It will have insect damage–although still quite usable.
I’m also in Missouri, in the Kansas City area. One of my neighbors who grows apples and peaches told me that he tried growing fruit organically. The problem was, no one would buy it; it wasn’t “pretty.”
I’ve had apple and peach trees that produced more fruit every year than I could use in many years. If you have one peach tree, one apple tree, and one pear tree, you will be drowning in fruit every year. But you will have to cut out the bad spots. And you’ll still wind up struggling to get it all canned.
Mulberries are kind of an acquired taste, I guess, but you get to where you crave them as mulberry time approaches. I may have to can or freeze some this year. At both my present and former houses, I had white mulberries, which are kind of choice–though I also like the black ones. I’m surprised they aren’t grown commercially.
The Amish sell pawpaws at the produce auctions in the fall, but I’ve never tried them.
I actually planted plum, apple, cherry, peach and nectarine trees when I moved here.
Fruit production was spotty, but it wasn’t the insect damage that ruined them, it was the fungus.
Fungi love the heat and humidity.
That is why I went to the seminar, to see if there was some trick to it.
I wouldn’t think that the Ozarks would be more humid that my area (exurbs of Kansas City). The apple tree at my former house was a Granny Smith that produced a heavy crop every year. There were worms here and there, and the apples always had a coating of some kind of black fungus that had to be washed off. Some fruit rotted on the tree for unknown reasons. But we still had WAY too much fruit. Many people around here have productive apple trees that they don’t spray, but there seems to be an unfortunate tendency to plant Red Delicious, which about the worst-flavored apple in cultivation.
I had sweet cherries when I lived on the Kansas side, and one tree produced…I don’t know…bushels of fruit, I think. If I remember right, that was an Emperor Francis (yellow sweet cherry), which the birds don’t bother.
My daughter has a couple of peach trees–and I had one at my previous house. My peaches did have a tendency to rot just about the time they got ripe, but I still got a decent harvest. One of my daughter’s trees is a late-ripening variety that is immensely productive. Her other tree has early-ripening fruit, which is problematic, though I can’t remember why for sure. I think it might be that the fruit ripens at the peak of the Japanese Beetle season. My daughter’s one rather small and very young pear tree yielded 100 pounds of fruit last year.
If you are growing fruit for home use only, you can probably get by fine with organic methods–a more than adequate harvest of fruit that is too ugly to sell but fine for fresh eating and canning, once you cut out the bad spots.
The county extension agents can advise you on the best varieties for your area. They don’t have the resources to research every variety that might interest you, which is irritating. You’d like to call them up and ask, “Is a Karmijn de Sonneville apple a good variety for Lafayette County?” But with fruit trees that take awhile to mature, it’s best not to take any chances. You can try out exotic tomato varieties all you want, and plant a couple of Druzba or Purple Calabash and see what you think. (Druzba is a GREAT tomato, btw.)
OT, but, once you get me started…. The best variety of green beans I know of, for flavor and productivity, is Strike.
Thanks for the tips.
“I’m not so sure about the Amish.”
It stands to reason that they have to adapt in some ways in order to survive in different settings. It is their choice where to change their tactics, not ours. Certainly not ours to judge their choices and decide that they are not “true” or “real” Amish because we don’t think they follow their rules!!!!
That is ridiculous.
@James Kunstler
Dear Sir,
Amish school: neat idea.
The trouble is there are too much weapons around, too much psychopaths-warlords-in-the-making, so unless the Amish are also guerrilla warfare experts (are they?) the future won’t escape a phase of uncontrollable mayhem regardless of all the handy skills the Amish could impart to the rest of us.
Just south of Salmon, ID where I’ve been RV camping for an extended period while house hunting, there’s an Amish community. I’m told they’ve arrived in the last decade or so. They run a grocery store and they are the go to people for getting a quality pole barn or garage built.
The other, larger religious group here are the Mormons.
Mormons recruit. The Amish don’t appear to. So how do they avoid inbreeding? I have been wondering if I present any genealogical value to the group. I’m old, but I have my own bundle of cash. How does it work to create a new family branch in the Amish community?
Someone above mentioned hemophilia among them. So maybe they don’t avoid it very well.
Keep in mind that the Amish are a religious community. I don’t know if anyone can join them, but if there is a way, it would be open only to those who share their religious beliefs and are willing to be actively a part of a religious community. Don’t try skipping church.
Oh, of course. One would have to be a true believer.
They can’t avoid inbreeding. They have a much higher rate of a certain form of dwarfism then is normal in the general population.
Genetic diseases caused by inbreeding are a serious problem for the Amish. Downs syndrome and cystic fibrosis are common problems.
Nik,
I don’t know the details about the Amish, but other smallish social groups that have been studied by anthropologists note that groups come together in larger gatherings for annual festivals etc. and this is a time to find spouses from other groups or branches of the clan and avoid the downsides of endogamy.
(allegories)
You do what you can to prevent, hasten or delay change; there’s nothing one can do to prevent, hasten or delay change. Ultimately you want to rig change, unaware that change is subtly, then abruptly, managing you. The more you try to affect change, the more the change will have an impact on you. Change’s a river, you’re the margin: the margin tries to tame the river, the river wears the margin away; in time rivers move elsewhere, new margins emerge, old ones disappear.
Rivers make margins, only to erode them;
Changes make things, only to have them to fade away.
The soul had come to lodge in this body –
a desolate wilderness,
a rapidly crumbling bank of the river of time.
It will collapse – tomorrow if not today.
Lodged on the edge of such a shore
how can a traveler sleep in peace?
For where sand and water meet
no embankment can hold, O Bahu.
Sultan Bahu
A complete set of the Foxfire books is a handy tool. Also, although it’s been over 50 years since Stewart Brand and some other people published the Whole Earth Catalog and its supplements, it’s still a handy reference tool for living simpler and closer to God.
Mr. Kunstler,
If the probable upcoming episode of runaway inflation parallels the one of the early 80’s it’ll be a doozy. Way back, toward the later half of the 3rd quarter of 1980, Mr. Volcker decided it was time to correct for rampant inflation. Whammo! He (they) skyrocketed the Fed rate. For example, the rate for an average FHA mortgage was 10-11% and I remember that rate hitting 18% and then around November it was around 22%. House lending stopped. Ouch!
The businesses that depended on monthly rolling credit were the first to go. Next were those who needed quarterly credit. Then the businesses that depended on semi-annual and annual credit went away. I had rental property back then and all my tenants moved out because their employers evaporated. I lost everything. Coast-to-coast people were living in their cars, tent cities all across the country. It took years, nearly a decade, for business to get back to normal.
This time around it’s clear the Fed and Gov’t leadership is behind the curve, willingly committing “ostentatious stupidity”. It’s as if our brilliant leadership in DC and at the Federal Reserve have been desirous of plunging the entire nation (and probably globally) into economic disaster. If it comes about there will be millions living in their cars and tent cities from coast-to-coast. I’m sure our ‘alleged president’ and his merry men will see that as an opportunity to convince the public of the beauty of socialism/communism.
And, of course, your words are quite right: ‘those unused to consorting with alleged “higher powers” might consider getting used to prayer.’
Cheers
Inflation is much easier to sequester these days. Record stock market and home valuations are the most obvious sign. You have to remember, their are two economies now. One for the FIRE sector (Finance, Insurance, and Real Estate), and one for the actual productive economy, or lack thereof. Commodities are kept reasonably low through imports – exploiting cheap labor and lax environmental law the word over to deliver the cheapest shit to the masses – leaving the rest of the Fed’s funny money to slosh around in speculative investment markets – the casino economy – all over the world.
Seems like a good time to buy a roomy, boxy tent, the kind that you put on a platform. Move in a bed and a bureau, and voila!
In the seventies a lot of people around here lived in tents and wigwams for the summer.
Actually, this is a pleasant way to live, as long as the temps are above ca. 60.
And below 90.
Yup. In 1983 or ’84 I was THRILLED to be able to assume a home loan at 11.75%.
One of my daughters is now balking at 5%. Still a pretty good deal in my book.
Amish, Amish, Amish!
We spent a few days in the middle of Lancaster, summer 2019. As per my usual, I had done some research, including reading this seminal study:
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Amish_Society/-Rl4qQtph-IC?hl=en&gbpv=0
My wife is into arts & crafts, I’m more interested is social organization. Since we had similar goals in terms of doing a deep(er) dive, we spent the days driving around & down (somewhat) unmarked dirt farm roads searching for genuine farms, food and personally hand crafted items.
What I found, and many will concur, is that the Amish survive/thrive by selling goods and services to the “English”.
After our first day scouting out the highest concentration of farms that seemed the most prosperous, we did a second pass the next day looking for lunch. We had seen a sign before, but they hadn’t yet opened. 30 minutes later, there are 20 cars parked as they’re dishing out complete chicken dinners with all the fixing + desert.
Picnic tables were spread all around the front lawn of their home under the canopy of some enormous trees. I asked the husband if I could wash my hands, and he pointed to a huge barn like structure in the rear. I went in and saw a giant furniture factory with modern milling equip & stacked finished product awaiting shipment
Really impressive operation. We spent the rest of the day cruising around, and while there are plenty of self sufficient farms, I now noticed all the tilt up like structures dotting the landscape. Yep, mini factories.
So, yeah, read the book linked above. Definitely a resilient culture, probably more capable of surviving, but just remember a significant portion of their wealth comes from trading with the Empire and their fiat bucks.
Two more stories:
I pop into a old time sporting goods store – no fashion sportswear here, just actual hunting clothes, ammunition, etc. Two teenagers are leaving, heading towards their carriage.
Well, just like some/most teens have/work on hot cars, these kids had two young stallions (dont think they were gelded) hitched up.
He gave me a casual sideways glance as he clicked his tongue. Boy, those horses took off, with the boys absolutely in control and unconcerned. Teenagers!
The next story involves our slow roll through the backroads. We were crepping along, cruising around, when just then a team of 5 horses abreast comes out of the field and does a huge U-turn using a small part of the lane.
The dad is riding the combine with his two young teen sons walking along side. I’m screaming at my wife to get a shot as this Visage is trundling back down the next sweep of their farm.
Thankfully, she got the shot, which is one of our keepers and is mounted on a dedicated wall alongside all our other travel photos. It’s sort of surreal, because 5 horses across is a lot of horses. The combine is big, the man is big, and there a slight dust haze that creates an almost a dream like effect.
What in the world is the problem with trading with the “English” or “the Empire”?
I guess this is supposed to be a gotcha of some kind.
Misplaced and wholly erroneous expectations and strawman arguments don’t lead to impressive “gotchas”!
The Shakers, too, traded with “the Empire.” In fact, their products had a huge effect on the development in the larger national economy of standard household items such a the broom, packets of seeds, farm implements. There is no reason the Amish can’t play a similar role vis-a-vis mainstream culture (minus the celibacy, of course).
“Now, we’re finding out the hard way how much daily life must change, and is changing, and how disorderly that process is in every way from the imperative daily life adjustments to our spiritual attitudes about them…”
Much as we may have wanted it to be so… there was never anything permanent about the ‘American Way of Life’.
You know, the land of plenty and prosperity. The land where you could ‘make it’ if you worked hard enough. The land where dreams were made. The land of opportunity. The land of the nice house in the suburbs safely and neatly removed from the encroaching ills of urban life where your kids could play in the yard and go to nice schools with competent teachers who looked like something out of Leave it to Beaver.
Sure, some of that was myth. But part of it was very real, too. Ah yes… lots of Americans got to know that life for a generation or so. And then Reality crept back in. And the American Dream was shattered into a thousand pieces that we are just now beginning to count up.
Prosperity… gone. The ‘Plenty’… used up. The Dream… now a distant memory. And yet, our lives goes on.
It was fun to live out a happy fantasy. But the blissful fog has been blown away by the cold and stark realities of a job and industrial base that was stolen away from America by money-grubbing traitors who make too much money while plotting their next atrocities in well-furnished corner offices while sipping on imported designer coffees.
It was blown away by a Predatory Medical Industrial Mafia that has purchased our government and installed itself as a Medical Dictatorship over America and the rest of the World.
It was destroyed by laughingly-named ‘Public Servants’ who get into office already believing that it is the Public who must serve Them. Who sell their offices for the highest dollar. Who enter politics as beggars and who soon become rich Kings and Queens fully drunk on their own sense of self-satisfaction and entitlement.
And caught in the middle of this nightmare scenario is The American People… the vast numbers of souls who just want to live out their lives in peace and as far away from these Elitist Vultures as they can get.
We the People are tired. We are weary of the fight. We are financially broke and getting broker by the day. We are spiritually drained. We just want it all to stop and go away.
But as tired as we are… and as much as we want the Old Normal to come back… we must summon strength we did not know we had. We must stand up to The Predator Class who is going for the kill shot to Humanity and Their final takeover of the human race.
We can’t afford to rest now because the battle just got even more serious. Even more is at stake now… nothing less than the fate of the entire Planet.
We long for peace and quiet… but we must gather our thoughts and our strength for yet another grand battle. The Battle for the Ages. Everything on the line.
And it’s not just for you and the people you care about today. It’s for all the generations yet unborn who want to know a World as prosperous and orderly as we once knew not all that long ago.
Yes, indeed. Life is changing for all of us. And if we are to have any kind of a future worth living in, the future must all be changed in deeply fundamental ways for the Traitor Class as well that has pushed the human family into this corner of poverty and broken dreams.
One day soon, we’re all going to watch The Law of ‘Untended Consequences’ manifest itself in the World in ways no one saw coming… and certainly not those Predators who have worked so hard to set all this disorder and chaos into motion. You know, the ones who worked so hard to shatter the American Dream.
A cornered animal is a most unpredictable and dangerous beast. And for the last few generations… Americans have been pushed into the corner. And never more so than right now. And God only knows what the results of this are going to be.
Hold your loved-ones tight and hang on. There’s a deepening thunder hanging in the air…
And if Providence gives us the strength and guidance to survive… maybe one day we will find our way back in to That Beautiful Dream once again.
And next time… we don’t let Them ever steal it away from us again.
No unrestricted Capitalism next time. Monarchy, Fascism, or National Socialism. Authoritarian systems made up of people who despise banker and business types on a deep level.
The Founding Fathers, alas, were mostly merchant lovers or merchants themselves.
I’ve said it before, I love your writing.
I used to think along similar lines, but that was before I reached full realization. Here’s the clue: if you aren’t the predator, you’re the prey.
There isn’t some kind of noble expression of moral righteousness bestowed among the quietly suffering. Rather, the desire for peace, tranquility and a general longing to be left alone is a mark of the loser.
How did you get here, who came before, why are leaders psychopaths, why are your peers unable to organize, to mount effective resistance?
It’s because you were born and bred this way. Hundreds of generations before, those who conformed, those who consented to rule were allowed to live, to prosper and to have families.
Over 1000s of years, the vast majority cherish peace, dred confrontation, and will accept any insult or injury to what little dignity they may possess to have one more chance to live a normal, event free life.
Theyve elevated this mentality to an admired characteristic, one where people take great pride in working, paying taxes and contributing to society.
So again I say, if you think like this, if you know people who do, you’re what’s called a normal person. Iow, Prey
Because on the other side there are those who are consumed with control, power and prestige. Confronting, fighting, persuading, cheating, it’s all part of a fun game that makes life worth living.
If you think they are evil, amoral psychopaths, that says more about you than it does them. It doesn’t bother them a bit if you feel that way. Express it, and they know who you are, what type of person you are, and will set out to fuck with you for the sheer entertainment value.
So, you do not believe that civilizing advancement had anything to do with human nobility of character? So, why are you here commenting on our host’s site?
“There isn’t some kind of noble expression of moral righteousness bestowed among the quietly suffering.”
There is no single motivation for why someone suffers. There are as many reasons for suffering as there are people in the World. The sad reality is that suffering has been deeply woven into the fabric of Life on this Planet. And we all get caught up in that web.
The fortune ones among us try to get out of it. The ones who suffer in silence deserve our compassion and a helping hand out if they want one. That’s where the ‘expression of nobility’ will be found.
“… the desire for peace, tranquility and a general longing to be left alone is a mark of the loser.”
Again, the ‘desire for peace, tranquility and a general longing to be left alone’ has many reasons for being. But since most people are at heart this way rather than trying to be installed as Emperors of the Universe… there must be something fundamentally sound and righteous about that desire for peace. And it feels human.
“…why are leaders psychopaths…?”
Because being a psychopath is rewarded in this World. You get the top positions. You get the most power. You get the most money. Because — without a silly thing like morals to get in the way — you can just run over people with impunity. And do it again and again. Decent people want no part of that dreadful game.
“… the vast majority cherish peace, dred confrontation, and will accept any insult or injury to what little dignity they may possess to have one more chance to live a normal, event free life. They’ve elevated this mentality to an admired characteristic…”
The Big ‘They’ Behind All Things have attempted to elevate this mentality amongst We the People. But the main reason this has taken really root is that much of the human family is just lazy and prefers to exert as little effort in anything as possible. Fighting The System is hard! You know, we like the ‘American Way’… We want Quick and Easy!
A great cultural observer, Groucho Marx (yes, really), once said to someone during one of his flick’s plots… ‘I’m fighting for your Honor! Which is more than YOU ever did!’.
Today, a tiny remnant of the Human Family is fighting for the honor of our entire Life Form. Which is more than most of us will do. Being groomed that way? Partially. But built upon a solid foundation of simple laziness.
“… on the other side there are those who are consumed with control, power and prestige. Confronting, fighting, persuading, cheating, it’s all part of a fun game that makes life worth living… “
That’s an interesting way to look at it. Sure, at one level it’s like a fun old TV Western of Good Guys vs. Bad Guys. But at a deeper level, there is much more going on here.
The Cosmos we live in isn’t shallow and simplistic. There can be fun and honor found being in the middle of a battle that we never wanted to be in. Layer upon layer of things going on that we can discover if we choose to.
And in a quantum universe of unlimited potentials… the outcome of all this never gets boring because we never know what the outcome will be.
““…why are leaders psychopaths…?””
Unfortunately, many leaders get a high from controlling others and finding ways to demonstrate this control repeatedly. That is their motivation to lead. I don’t consider such people genuine leaders.
Not all leaders a psychopaths.
For instance, Putin is a genuine leader.
There is one member of my immediate family who is a genuine leader. Generous and kind, always willing to help others—and able to do so as well. The generosity plus the chops to actually get things done, and inspire others with his good nature.
Sounds like you’re describing the mob in NYC in the 70s and 80s, characters like John Gotti, Roy Demeo and Crazy Joe Gallo, who looked at anybody not part of ‘the life’ as simply suckers and prey.
“Because on the other side there are those who are consumed with control, power and prestige. Confronting, fighting, persuading, cheating, it’s all part of a fun game that makes life worth living.”
So you’ve opted for a life that is degrading and shameful. You can also make some pretty big bucks as a pole dancer or a prostitute or pimp, and, if you were shrewd, you could open your own whorehouse–with attched juke joint and gambling parlor.
You perhaps have no sense of this, but what you’ve done is to trade life itself and all its goodness for some trinkets.
“There isn’t some kind of noble expression of moral righteousness bestowed among the quietly suffering. Rather, the desire for peace, tranquility and a general longing to be left alone is a mark of the loser.”
“Loser (Live at Tivoii Concert Hall, Copenhagen, Denmark 4/14/1972)
Grateful Dead
If I had a gun for every ace I have drawn,
I could arm a town the size of Abilene
Don’t you push me baby, beause I’m moanin’ low
And you know I’m only in it for the gold
All that I am asking for is ten gold dollars
And I could pay you back with one good hand
You can look around about the wide world over
And you’ll never find another honest man.
Last fair deal in the country, Sweet Suzie,
Last fair deal in the town
Put your gold money where your love is baby,
Before you let my deal go down
Don’t you push me baby, cause I’m moanin’ low
And I know a little something you won’t ever know
Don’t you touch hard liquor, just a cup of cold coffee
Gotta get up in the morning and go
Everybody’s braggin and drinking that wine
I can tell the Queen of Diamonds by the way she shines
Come to daddy on the inside straight,
Well I got no chance of losing this time
Well I got no chance of losing this time
Well I no chance of losing this time…
Last fair deal in the country,
Last fair deal in the town
Put your gold money where your love is baby,
Before you let my deal go down
Everybody’s braggin and drinking that wine
I can tell the Queen of Diamonds by the way she shines
Come to daddy on the inside straight,
Well I got no chance of losing this time
Well I got no chance of losing this time
Well I got no chance of losing this time…
Songwriters: Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C Christie Hunter. For non-commercial use only.
Great comment. You could be JHK’s understudy.
reminds me of these two…
“I’m going to be a happy idiot
And struggle for the legal tender”
Jackson Browne Pretender
Grateful Dead, “We can run but we can’t hide (from it)”…
” We don’t own this world though we act as if we did,
It belongs to the children of our children’s kids”.
“Hold your loved-ones tight and hang on. There’s a deepening thunder hanging in the air…
And if Providence gives us the strength and guidance to survive… maybe one day we will find our way back in to That Beautiful Dream once again.”
They played this one in Providence, Ri.
“The wheel”
“The wheel is turning and you can’t slow down,
You can’t let go and you can’t hold on,
You can’t go back and you can’t stand still,
If the thunder don’t get you then the lightning will.”
“For this is all a dream we dreamed
One afternoon long ago”
Box of Rain
I’m in. I can spin wool, knit, train dogs and other animals, know how to raise chickens and quail, can harness and saddle a horse, know about the care of many animals, am a really good gardener, and also a good cook. I can id a lot of plants, and have some knowledge of herbalism. I also draw and paint, play the recorder, and write great limericks. Problem is, I’m old and decrepit.
Just wait until all the vegans find out how hard it is to keep weight on when it’s 30 below and you’re eating wheat-grass and tofu.
Read “When the English Fall” by David Williams.
Really good read about exactly this subject.
https://www.amazon.com/When-English-Fall-David-Williams/dp/1616205229
I can fix bicycles!
That one will be really important
I am fast on a 10 key adding machine.
But I’m fooked with no electricity.
Get an abacus.
Can you machine the parts needed for the bikes? Eventually they all wear out. especially the replaceables, Tires, brakes, cables, chains. Start a boneyard now. Spare parts are from china and that boat’s not running.
It is distressing to see how many bikes are just trashed at the dump when one part gets broken. These are treasure troves of spare parts, being thrown away.
In the Netherlands such bikes are taken down and the the part stored in bins to use for refurbishing used bikes. At least, there are some organizations that do this and then donate bikes to Africa.
We will need this here pretty soon! is there anyone out there with a spare barn for bike parts?
Actually, this parts issue will soon be pressing for many, many of the machines we currently take for granted. such as electric ranges, etc.
We need to start thinking Zero Obsolescence!
Agreed!!!
We have many of the same skills–and the same problem of being old and decrepit.
The spirit is willing bur the flesh is weak lol.
The way it happens in your head is, “I think I’ll just skip down the front steps and scamper out to the garden and cut some greens for dinner.” This is how you see yourself, till you hoist yourself painfully out of your chair, shuffle a few steps to the front door, and struggle to keep your balance while you put your shoes on. By then you’re winded and considering sitting back down for awhile.
Hmmm…’work so hard to make it worse’…nine 11 should have been our first hint; if the PTB couldn’t justify a war, making something up sure did. All wars are resource wars. I’ve long referred to this country’s culture as Disneyland where physics doesn’t matter, limits don’t count and consumerism trumps being energy literate.
I accept your proposal; I use a wood stove, have no centralized electricity, make candles, grow real food, stash cash, recognize waste as potential wealth, build relationship with locals, plants, soil, and animals. Presently identifying weak areas of knowledge and focusing on building skills.
Thank you JHK
Chalk this up to another vaxxed Covid death?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/erin-jayne-plummer-dies-suddenly-at-42/ar-AAXCIw2?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=552ab70230724d76a20082741162ecdb
No doubt Cowbell. I have it on ‘good authority’ (i.e.CFN blog roll) that any unusual or early death is, of course, entirely attributable to the Gates/Schwab/WEF Global Depopulation Plan, delivered by vaccines.
The whole monkey pox thing is a complete joke, I could barely make it through this article with a straight face.
https://metro.co.uk/2022/05/23/eu-advises-countries-to-plan-vaccines-for-monkeypox-outbreak-16693859/
folks use words like crazy or joke but no, its diabolic and much deeper than some random craziness.
OMG, the sky is falling and world is coming to an end because 60 people in the entire world have come down with the Monkey Pox. This is largely an African disease, as so many of these weird things are, and it causes no harm and resolves on its own. A good calamine location would probably clear it up in a few days.
I have an idea, why don’t we lock down the entire continent of Africa once and for all to keep all those nasty diseases from escaping to the better off 1st and 2nd World countries?
The Africans are calling bullshit.
““I’m stunned by this. Every day I wake up and there are more countries infected,” said Oyewale Tomori, a virologist who formerly headed the Nigerian Academy of Science and who sits on several WHO advisory boards.
“This is not the kind of spread we’ve seen in West Africa, so there may be something new happening in the West,” he said.”
and
“We’ve never seen anything like what’s happening in Europe,” said Christian Happi, director of the African Centre of Excellence for Genomics of Infectious Diseases. “We haven’t seen anything to say that the transmission patterns of monkeypox have been changing in Africa. So if something different is happening in Europe, then Europe needs to investigate that.”
Do ya think that will happen? Yeah, right
.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/monkeypox-spreads-west-baffling-african-112930241.html
Serves ’em right. Maybe this was all cooked up by Putin and being spread by Russian agents. I’m surprised the West hasn’t pulled out that card yet, since blaming Putin for everything these days seems to be in vogue.
I think Belgium is in Monkeypox lockdown.
A scenario is pushing smallpox vaccine on the unvaccinated (real smallpox vaccine) which was used a few decades ago to eradicate smallpox.
Younger people might not have this. Now they have the jab screwing with their immune system. Could this make them prime candidates for AIDS-related smallpox under the pretext of ‘protecting’ them from monkeypox. It’s another sell-job in the making. Lies without end.
Bill Gates has been talking about a smallpox outbreak for years now.
Smallpox was eradicated by 1980 and back then, they didn’t think they could push vaccines for a non-existent illness, so they stopped the vaccinations.
They have learned otherwise now. There are people so easily swayed by propaganda they will line up for an experimental GMO product that doesn’t even work.
But there are still resistant people.
Say they announce that everyone needs to get a smallpox vaccine to “protect” them from monkeypox?
Everyone with brains scoffs and refuses.
The compliant and gullible go for the jabs.
Then they release the smallpox.
Only the compliant survive.
The Fact Checking Industrial Complex is on to Monkeypox misinformation already. Never fear.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/monkeypox-conspiracy-theories-five-false-claims-about-the-virus-debunked-as-misinformation-spreads-online/ar-AAXClZk
The main takeaway is that it’s nothing to do with Bill Gates. Because of course it isn’t – what were you thinking, you lumpenprole conspiracy nut?
While entertaining for sure, Mr Kunstler’s predictions have never materialized. Go back and read his yearly predictions, all hyperbole and dead wrong. When one has zero descendants one can be as dark as hell. No kids or grandkids? Who cares if the world goes to shit, it’s just me myself and I . He’s getting old and turning into a bit of a suicide pilot, despising a world he no longer understands.
You forgot to say you loved his books back when he was writing on town planning and stuff.
You always crack me up with this, GA.
Ahahahahahahahaha!
Docmartin, time for you to go to timeout.
docmartin, your shoes went out of style in the 1990s!!! lol Time to get with the program.
“When one has zero descendants one can be as dark as hell. No kids or grandkids? Who cares if the world goes to shit, it’s just me myself and…”
I would suggest that your having grandkids, coupled with your “giving a shit” should have no bearing on your understanding of future events.
You have a dog in the fight? Well, as they say on the Russian/Ukrianian front…”Tough Shitski”.
We all have concerns, the intelligent amongst us know that we have absolutely NO bearing on the geopolitical, macroeconomic, nor major societal issues. None. What. So. Ever.
Your grandkids will adapt or suffer….just like ours.
It’s “Tough Shitskyy”.
Q,
Obviously, whatever gibberish they speak over there is not your first language….
NEVER?
1. The end of HAPPY MOTORING.
2. The end of the 3000 mile Ceasar salad.
3. The return to Main Street…
4. Marauding gangs…
Docmartin:
“When one has zero descendants one can be as dark as hell. No kids or grandkids? Who cares if the world goes to shit, it’s just me myself and I .”
Very sad that you have no one to love.
…”(probably not far away), the economy will be so wrecked, the people of America so deranged, and our circumstances so desperate, that the government will resort to a supremely stupid act of national suicide, say, starting a nuclear war. The government under “Joe Biden” seems perfectly disposed to that possible outcome…”
One of the theories making the rounds in what used to call itself the intelligentsia is that Putin is ill, weak, losing and in a final act of desperation will launch the nukes. Of course as is usual, the propagators of this scenario are in fact describing their own deranged helplessness and projecting onto The Other. (In fact the Russians have a strong survival instinct, lots of land and resources, an educated population, and no need for the West economically.). The mere fact that nuclear war has become a topic of conversation bodes ill considering the immaturity of Western leadership.
The Long Emergency looks more and more like the optimistic forecast.
I just went to a hippie-owned grocery store I frequent.
The cashier remarked how nice and cool the weather is and I agreed, but said that it’s good for me but not my pepper and tomato seedlings I have out.
She said that the kids on the farm were also running around covering their peppers. Then she said that the kids had decided to build a house so the farmers told them they had to learn how to make a frame first. So every kid made their own frame and then then put them together and put plastic over it and made a greenhouse.
So I have no idea how many kids are involved here, but I thought of this post and how there are at least some up and coming youth who will know how to farm and build.
Well, well, well…..look at the woke schlub that AOC is finally tying the knot with. I wonder how much this wedding is going to actually cost the taxpayers? Also, we should all take note of her ceremony to see if people are wearing masks, or if only the “help” is all masked up. Let’s make it a point to protest at the ceremony and make it miserable for her!!!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-confirms-engagement-to-longtime-boyfriend-riley-roberts/ar-AAXCOKB?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a20e4bc0c2e341619ad0f3a694c02ec7
“While entertaining for sure, Mr Kunstler’s predictions have never materialized. Go back and read his yearly predictions, all hyperbole and dead wrong. When one has zero descendants one can be as dark as hell. No kids or grandkids? Who cares if the world goes to shit, it’s just me myself and I . He’s getting old and turning into a bit of a suicide pilot, despising a world he no longer understands.”
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uh…..bingo
i was going to say he understands the world, but i’d be contradicting my ‘bingo’ remark
i still love jimmy tho’.
you US and A americans should do like me and get out of the Slough of Despond the US has necrotised into
pleny o’ nice places abroad to be had for a song and a dance
“…abroad…” indeed. One must choose carefully, and the alternatives are often discouraging. New Zealand, for example – prime target for flight capitalists, richies who want the good living. The people – tight-assed, narrow-minded, glum. The climate: miserable. Prices & availability of imported goods: often high & difficult.
Thailand: great until the 1980s or so. Now expensive, ultra-polluted & quite dangerous. Many cases of foreigners marrying Thai women, bringing over their resources (everything of value in the wife’s name) and then “…suffering a heart attack…” and quickly cremated before anybody can cry “autopsy”.
Anywhere in Latinoamerica: more despairing and dangerous than ever. Give me one city, one country, where educated, intelligent locals are not anxious to flee.
Canada: fourth Reich. I spent ten comfortable years in Vancouver-by-the-Void, but it is out of the question these days. Climate also dreary. Prairies not bad if you can put up with winter half a year long.
Chinese richies are reportedly piling into Malta. Maybe not a bad choice but likely politically unstable. Banking questionable. Banking probably questionable anywhere in Europa these days.
If there is any really desirable place they are probably keeping it quiet. Or going for the zillionaires. I’d like to live in Vietnam but they are not particularly welcoming to foriegn immigrants.
https://www.independent.com.mt/articles/2017-07-24/local-news/Malta-becomes-fifth-most-popular-country-for-rich-Chinese-emigrants-6736176949
woefully incorrect as regards latin america and thereabouts
the media’d lead you to believe antifa/blm is the norm in the US, but they don’t exist to someone in the interior of alabama
same holds true of other countries
Well sir, I would like to think that I am in the wrong in this view, perhaps biased by media reports, since I have not lived in South America for some decades.
All reports, however, are downers, even when they are explaining how to stay away from the omnipresent criminal terror (“…always avoid the favelas, even with a guide…”) and the smaller cities like Florianopolis or Valparaiso, which I would definitely prefer to the monster megapolises, are starting to report the same instability and insecurity.
Do you recall the recent reports of our honorable colleague Rulo D. about life in Argentina? There is a huge “no-go zone” in Buenos Aires (as I recall) where they bottle up all the teeming masses of junkies (mostly meth-heads). You simply do not go near that area.
I wonder whether living in some of the German expat communities sprinkled around the continent might be an option. The question which has been raised in these comments on more than one occasion is whether you would fatally stand out as “The Gringo” when martial law is declared, banks shutter and all certainty about life is up in the air. Who will protect you?
What country in Latinoamerica is not relatively overpopulated, considering resources? None that I can think of. Maybe parts of Chile. But life is hard.
If you think I am wrong please furnish some examples of safe, clean, stable areas of the continent, where they would welcome someone like you or me.
Malta appeals to me: great climate, fascinating history, and neolithic ruins.
And before you know it, even the State of Vermont will begin looking like a 3rd World country:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/more-than-300-refugees-planned-for-vermont-city/ar-AAXCMq4?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1ccf3de82d8344a3b93b320fd7c8d2e7
Must have run out of space in Burlington.
oh yeah, i forgot to compliment the global masters on introducing their 2nd worldwide virus that demands global control.
nice work guys, yep we’ll just have to get used to restrictions on movement/travel/social interaction in order to implement your plan to force people to stop using petroleum products, reduce the population, eliminate free speech [it’s so dangerous], end meat production, and, finally, to set up social scoring so that we only get to live work and eat if we obey your demands.
just remember how mussolini ended up
Il Duce was hanging out at the gas station, as I recall.
The human condition reduced to one single question:
– How far are you willing to go to ensure the next meal?
The – often tacit – answer to this question is the history of your life.
Do you think people would be willing to prostitute their bodies simply for that next warm meal? In a collapsed society, how much / what acts do you think a can of Dinty Moore Beef Stew would be worth?
They are – and they will (and it even doesn’t have to be warm – just chewable and edible.)
I best start stocking up now.
“Ladies of the world, come see me for that next bowl of beef stew, followed by a nice warm bed to sleep in for the night. Please just stay away if you are a carrier of the Money Pox. Thanks and enjoy!”
If you’re not a thug, that’s unwise, because the thugs of the earth will steal it all from you (and occasionally turn you into a punching bag.)
Why give up a can of Dinty Moore Beef Stew for something you’ll be able to get at knife point?
:”Do you think people would be willing to prostitute their bodies simply for that next warm meal?”
Cowbell,
Jesus…please start reading history. Humans in distress will do far worse for a few slices of moldy bread.
Browse Selco Begovic.
Women will sell their bodies for food. Or even a candy bar as German women did after the war when they were being systematically starved by the Allies.
There are suppressed videos of American troops pretending to offer German children candy and then snatching it away. All in line with the “no fraternization” mandate that was given to them.
So will men.
Mary, may I be first in line to sell my (male) body for a Full English Breakfast (with black pudding and extra mushrooms) when the Sh1t hits the fan?
LOL
“The – often tacit – answer to this question is the history of your life.
AK,
Not the history, but rather the current moment will decide an answer.
We are all Amish now–or about to be. But some of us don’t have the Amish skillset…
I think this Monkeypox panic will be fading out in a week or two. It doesn’t seem to have ‘gravitas’ as they say, as it looks like its largely confined to the ‘Gay Community’, which is at most 3% of the population. Remember a year or two ago the ‘Killer Bee’ scare, hybrid bees the size of humming birds coming in from Latin America — due to Climate Change — with stingers the size of ice picks that will swarm you and kill you in 10 seconds flat. It got my attention — I’m allergic — but haven’t heard anything about these monstrous bees since then.
Indeed, Monkeypox is pretty much the scare du jour. A new one will come from the woodwork in the next week or two. Honestly, I am surprised they are willing to degrade monkeys everywhere by naming a virus after them. Whatever happened to using the Greek alphabet to name all viruses in order to gain complete neutrality?
The Pat virus, that’s neutral
“It’s a man.”
“No, it’s a lady.”
The beauty of MonkeyPox is that it has actual, unmistakable symptoms, which can’t be confused with a cold or the flu. So we will see where all this goes, but I think it’s a bit too obvious to be useful for scamdemic purposes. Now, once they go all in for the real deal, who the hell knows? I think any of the hemorrhagic fevers would be a great choice for scaring the living shit out of the gen pop. No doubt whatsoever that everyone will line up for the vaxx for those.
When I saw the gay men references as it first emerged, my mind immediately went to Fauci’s antics with HIV and AZT, and the attempted crossing the line to include heterosexuals. Might there have been lessons learned from the failed effort which have been refined?
Didn’t you hear, the ‘gay community’ now expanded to LGBTQWERTYUIOP is 30% of society now.
Yep. You can be a sexual pervert AND improve your touch typing skills. A twofer.
Ohhh…where to start?
First, Dear Mr. K, you are making remarkable progress but you have yet to embrace the full and total fuckery of our situation. I am surprised to read from you– yea even at this late date– your apparent belief that the galactic convergence of fuckery is somehow *incompetence*. Please. If it were mere incompetence we would have the Blind Squirrel and Broken Clock principles at play (the occasional nut and the correct time twice daily). No, this Regime is exceedingly competent, even talented– they manage to *always* find *exactly* the policy that destroys, harms, ennervates, divides, alienates, impoverishes. That is not possible without intention. Even Heinlein couldn’t ascribe that to nad luck.
CC,
Yes, excellent! It is a grave mistake to assign benign attributes, such as stupidity, to your assailants.
Exactly. But now for the fun part: dial “this regime” back, all the way back, to the first proto-human troops, when master-servant relationships began. (Mirroring ape behaviors observed today.)
I’m still a bit surprised that some actually believe there was ever any true republic. People tacitly understand monarchy, but like trusting fake news, they seemingly buy the democratic narrative once we flip away from top down directives.
All you have to do is ask yourself why on doG’s green earth would anyone willingly give up rank, power, wealth and control? And grant equality to someone they feel is greatly inferior simply because, what, they were born here?
Now, if you cant quite bring yourself to admit the whole truth, let’s say indeed there was a period when the contract was honored. OK, then when did it end?
1846, 1861, 1898, 1913, 1914 and so on – at what point? Oh, just 2016, or even as late as 2020?
The truth is, commoners have always been lied to, abused and neglected, but like the obedient sheep they truly are, they masked up and took it with barely a whimper.
The WEF is essentially telling people to their faces that they intend on surviving as they intentionally bring down the facade. They’re counting on the masses to take like they always have so that the fittest once again succeed.
“Fittest” according to those who deem themselves fittest?
They seem incapable of righteous judgement.
It’s a great question to ponder– is there any form of government that isn’t prone to tyranny?
I’d say, no. The Framers were explicit in designing as many curbs against the tendency toward tyranny but eventually those safeguards proved inadequate.
What now? Best i can figure, the only workable safeguard against murderous tyranny is some kind of hyper federalism that pushes the maximum amount of power and control to the smallest possible governing body. So, for example, assign to your town council all powers and responsibilities of government unless absolutely necessary to be done by the county. And assign to the state only those functions that absolutely can’t be done by town or county. And the federal government only does that which absolutely can’t be done by states. The tyranny that inevitably arises will do so locally where it can be swiftly identified and dispatched (the kunlangeta model). The kind of mass murder and genocide can only happen when psychopaths are allowed concentrated big government power. Psychos are always w us but we don’t need to give them a massive government to weaponize.
This requires major shifts in society. No more federal sugar daddy. Any social safety net is purely local. Families and charitable groups will flourish once it’s clear that government isn’t coming to the rescue.
The good news is that it’s quite possible now for communities to thrive locally and regionally. It may mean that we don’t have nearly as much variety or choices in products and services. But the quality of life might be far better all around.
“It’s a great question to ponder– is there any form of government that isn’t prone to tyranny?”
It is the question of our age.
When the realization comes that only our Creator can be trusted to appoint rulers some of your good ideas may be implemented.
“… the only workable safeguard against murderous tyranny is some kind of hyper federalism that pushes the maximum amount of power and control to the smallest possible governing body.
CC,
Or to put it into real terms;
Maximum amount of power=weapons
Smallest possile governing body=Citizen
Jim,
Wanted to share some videos from a group that holds seminars on the training of oxen and the overall importance of caring for cows and bulls, both from a practical standpoint, as well as more subtle, spiritual perspectives from the age old Vedic culture of India.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS_sV4_5xwg
I have come to believe that Amish, or any such monoculturalist farmers, are not ideal templates for human civilization in the long-term. I believe the seed of runaway population-growth is in intensive monoculture-agriculture as an economic basis for a society.
Anybody want to give an example of a monoculturalist-agriculture-based society that did not progress with inevitability toward an endpoint of population-sprawl?
Are Amish monoculturalists?
The narrator’s voice is pretty annoying, but this video is informative:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUUUHzkua68
Here is another quite nice one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlomCUhcKoM
When you use horses instead of tractors you must grow fodder crops, in addition to any others.
This is interesting, and relevant:
Britain, and Ireland, forced to grow own food during WW2, owing to blockade:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNpeCgzn22w
I’m referring to any agriculture in which a large percentage of arable land (i don’t know… 20-50% minimum maybe) is devoted to plowing or orcharding in large chunks of a single predominant crop-plant. So, Amish cornfields definitely meet the criteria.
You are of course welcome to your own criteria and definitions.
However, the accepted definition of “monoculture” is:
the cultivation of a single crop in a given area.
So crop rotation automatically is not monoculture. Planting some fields in fodder for the horses is not monoculture. Other Amish practices such as leaving fields fallow etc. falls outside the monoculture picture. Size of “fields”/area planted with a crop is another factor. If I plant an acre with corn one summer, that is not monoculture. If I plant 150 acres with corn every summer that is monoculture.
So, What would be your plan, as a farmer, if you had a 40-acre farm?
Hello.
You know, Islander, I had thought you were of the male persuasion before your post about the dude farm, for some reason, I don’t know why.
A basic cornfield is monoculture. Crop-rotation is just rotating monocultures.
A 40-acre farm is already a small-enough parcel that it would require intensive agriculture to live on, in most cases.
The ideal “farm” would have a gentle-agriculture, permaculture organization that utilizes independently sustaining ecosystems to yeild a harvest… systems that run themselves, harvested by hunting/gathering. The average population-density historically is, I believe, about 640 acres per person, on average (within a range depending on the environment).
If I had a 40 acre farm, I would sell it and move to the least populated temperate coastal region I could find, and start learning how to fish the area effectively.
“A 40-acre farm is already a small-enough parcel that it would require intensive agriculture to live on, in most cases. ”
Somehow, I don’t think you are actually a farmer.
According to the vids I linked (and watched), most Amish farms are 40 acres or less. Why not watch them and learn something??
“If I had a 40 acre farm, I would sell it and move to the least populated temperate coastal region I could find, and start learning how to fish the area effectively.”
LOL.
As I said, 40 acres is great if you’re going to plow every level inch of it with monocultures and raise the usual farm animals in enclosures, like the Amish.
I’m no farmer, but I have messed with homestead farming a little.
Last week I had a similar “conversation” with her. She said: it’s not the population but the “load” – as if the world’s billions are going to start living simply on an acre or two per family. As if there is no relation between population and load.
This kind of denial is par for the course in women and feminized men. They can’t face the mass die off with the equanimity that incarnate gods like you and Mitch are able to muster. Somehow I think it comes very easy for him…..
Nothing simple bout simple living. Simple livin’ is what we have now. Turn a switch and on things go. Our jobs are monoculturalist for the most part too. Fast food. Fast mind. Fast life. Fast death.
FWIW, I mentioned something to this effect on Peak Oil Barrel some years ago:
If humans can do away with some or much of their mining-based material technology and live in harmony with the planet, Earth could sustain them then. It’s rather like how there might be more mass of ants, but they live in harmony with the planet so their ‘load’ is not as great, even if their mass is.
So, on the one hand, Islander is right– maybe (I haven’t read entirely upthread, but just poked my head in here)– and on the other hand, Jarek has a point insofar as we may be kind of locked-in to a techno lifestyle that might be difficult to unlock ourselves out of, at least short-term.
Techology can mean different things, too. It can simply mean ‘permaculture’ and an approach that also tries to enhance nature. What we are doing now in part is drawing it down.
“Our jobs are monoculturalist for the most part too.” ~ Jarek
Yep, I posted this sort of idea almost to the letter more than once on Peak Oil Barrel. I also suggested that many jobs were glorified obsessive-compulsive disorders.
“You know, Islander, I had thought you were of the male persuasion before your post about the dude farm…” ~ gustafson.robert.22
I’ll gather, then, that you missed Islander’s ‘Clint Walker’ comment.
“This kind of denial is par for the course in women and feminized men. They can’t face the mass die off with the equanimity that incarnate gods like you and Mitch are able to muster. Somehow I think it comes very easy for him…..”
Lol. I’m not heartless, calloused about die-off concepts / realities. I don’t believe confidence of survival whenever things fall apart is realistic for any individual, really.
But, what keeps me optimistic is the idea that healthy human life on Earth is still very possible, maybe even inevitable, once the junk clogging us up now is jettisoned. I don’t have many roots in our contemporary world (on purpose). I’ve devoted my few years to focusing on the world of ideas and on distant futures – optimism inducing.
“Our jobs are monoculturalist for the most part too.”
I like this line.
We are fortunate to own a 45 acre farm in the Appalachian foothills of upstate South Carolina. It’s about half lush pasture and half mixed forest. We have about three fourths acre in a garden where we grow green beans, field peas, Butterbean, okra, tomatoes, squash and peppers. It takes every ounce of my energy along with my tiller to manage working this small area and there is no way in hell it would come close to feeding the two of us.
Because we don’t live there all of the time we can’t keep livestock. Going Amish sounds like a wonderful dream but in reality every minute of every day is involved in the production and procurement of food. My father left the farm in Iowa and never looked back. He always said he never wanted to work that hard again.
Re the concept of “load” vs. that of population, poor old ‘Rek just can’t bypass an opportunity to display his ignorance.
Farmgal:
The Amish use teams of horses (some may also use tractors). In some of the operations shown in the vid linked up-thread you can see a team of six horses, so harnessed and driven that they can easily maneuver around the corner of a field, etc.
These teams pull many implements that a tractor would also pull, for the various activities such as creating furrows and turning over the soil, planting, weeding, harvesting, etc. Many implements for these functions were developed for small-scale farming.
That is what made the video I linked up-thread on the Irish potato farmers interesting—using small, antique tractors for small-scale (but not subsistence) farming. Many of these devices are really quite ingenious.
Not to forget, Amish farms are run by fairly large FAMILIES. That is a lot of person power.
Obviously, Amish families are on their farms 35/24/7.
I think that for many of us, Amish or no Amish, getting back to prayer will be the end all and be all.
COVID, despite the recent uptick, was diagnosed by world authorities as something akin to the common cold: widespread and frequently occurring.
People thought: no more vaccines, no more passports, no more lockdowns, no more tracking, no more restrictions, no more masks.
But people forgot, as they always do, that this was a test run.
Not only did they forget, they willfully ignored the fact that that the same people who brought you COVID and the vaccines told you as much.
They not only told you that but they told you that a more serious pox virus was on its way. They even ran simulations of pox virus outbreaks. Their same lab in Wuhan published GOF with pox viruses.
The virus is the vehicle for the disorder. The antecedent.
That demands a new order.
It is not carts and horses.
You’ve been warned
Again
Preach it bro, exactly.
At this point it’s like cat & mouse. Bored of all the pussy, wine, food, luxuries and desires anyone could possibly want, they’re now entering pure debauchery.
At this stage its probably a bit of a thrill to tell someone directly to their face how badly they’re gonna fuck them up, when they’re going to do it, and how they’re going to do it.
I mean, survival seems to be baked in, so why to taunt and dunk on the losers?
Kind of a smug prick ain’t ya, mc?
You still assume that the moneyed people – and you are evidently one – are going to come out of all this just fine. I don’t think that’s a safe assumption at all.
So in other words, you’re going to take the HIV Monkey Pox vaccine because they’re all powerful, your gods so to speak?
Earth created an apex predator that got out of hand and became its own predator. And now, via the predator’s own system(s), Earth is trying to treat itself.
It’s endlessly irritating and sad that people can’t learn this. It took me 1 week. I’m no genius. So WTF is wrong with most people?
I must have read your book (and John Michael Greer’s and Orlov’s essays) in 2007 because I can date my certainty of the failure of industrial civilization to Sept 1, 2007. But none of my Southern family or friends or neighbors share this insight. Conditions here have only become markedly better every year. For almost 15 years now.
The growth in my town is incomprehensible with all the DoD money sprinkled on a huge research park of contractors. Last week we were named by US News and World Report the best place to live in America! Imagine–Alabama being the best place to live in the USA! Actually, it’s not that great because I would like to do all in my power to discourage any more people from moving here.
There are vanishingly few who view our current good fortune as a last hurrah. So, I am going to throw a retirement party for everybody I know, take a road trip out West to visit the National Parks I haven’t seen, join 3 European bike tours to say a proper goodbye to Western Europe and then return to my overgrown garden and prepare to go Amish whenever the Bubble pops.
An excellent plan, Rocketdoc! Just because something is ‘inevitable’, one doesn’t have to commit all ones time & energy to “fighting” it. Enjoy the wonders of the modern world – it’s NOT ALL BAD out there. Try the South Pacific while you’re at it!
Is your town Huntsville?
Yes. 210,000 people. 215 square miles.
I knew a fellow from Huntsville. The only town in Alabama that I can name!!
His father had a huge cement plant there.
I got the impression that this fellow’s dad had gotten rich on government contracts.
Maybe building the interstate highway system.
Now we know where you live.
Old news. 1993
A 30 year old “book review” of today’s problems:
https://youtu.be/ZbEF0XseVjs?t=2
Brought to you by the author of The Ominous Parallels – the End of Freedom in America. How (as of 1982), the US is following the Nazi Germans, step by step, into apocalypse.
When I was hiking in Bavaria some decades ago, near Andechs, I stopped in a small “Bauernkneipe”— a small room in a farmhouse where you could sit down and order a glass of the farm’s home-made schnapps. Probably this tradition has gone the way of the dodo.
So the mother was a very striking-looking farm woman, maybe in her forties. Brown hair and blue eyes. Her son, healthy, handsome, same blue eyes, VERY shy. The mom suggested (jokingly, I think . . .) that I consider marrying her son, although by that time I was too old for him (I thought)! I demurred—had a job in NYC!!—but suggested they put an ad in the Wall Street Journal for visitors to their “dude farm.” I reckoned they would get plenty of candidates among frustrated Wall Street bachelorettes who might like to help a sweet young farmer run his farm or at least have a nice rural vacation . . . But it was a job to explain the concept of a “dude farm” to a pair of Bavarian farmers.
Jeezus! I hope you didn’t corrupt the poor bastards! That’s all they needed – a bunch of Wall St whores showing up to take them for all they were worth. Christ, I think it might be better if they just ring-fenced the US altogether to keep all the crazies in. We’re a hopeless race of people here. Fucking Devil’s Spawn.
“Wall Street whores” ?????
“some decades ago” ????
I was just thinking of secretaries . . .
Honestly, the projections that one encounters here could be case studies of some kind.
Love Death + Robots
Short Dystopian + Cynical
Exit Strategies
11 minutes and Brilliant.
Humans could have made changes and used money and resources to maintain a habitable and healthy planet
But different classes bought different modes of survival: guns, bullets, chili, oil platforms, yachts, bunkers, and rockets to Mars.
It didn’t work.
The producers and writers of the episode know it won’t work. These silly plans of foolish people.
The Davos crowd also knows that these options won’t work.
So take them away.
I sense I must trot out once again what I feel is an excellent analogy:
A successful ant colony happens across a forgotten 5lb bag of sugar, left behind by weekend campers rushing to get back to the city for the beginning of the work week.
(Yes, I know, it should probably be updated to reflect current employment realities. As in, im quitting if i have to come into the office more than once a week.)
Anyway, do they have a top level pow wow to discuss how best to utilize this one off gift of the doGs? That maybe, if thoughtfully husbanded and managed, perhaps ants could cure cancer or develop suitable technology to explore the stars?
HA! Fuck that noise, we’re gonna party like mofos, screwing, eating, drinking, no more hard physical work foraging for scrap morsels, we are enlightened kangz!
Get the picture? What if you’re guarding the stores, whispering to the queens handlers the cache is running low? You know, a few others know, but the rest have no clue.
You.Are.Here.
Getting pretty preachy lately. What, are you trolling for a following?
mitchellc is doing nothing more than trying to convince himself – endlessly – that taking the ‘rational’ (read non-empathetic, even psychopathic) road, in view of what we all know as well as he does, is ‘justifiable’. Counter-intuitively, that might suggest that he’s not 100% psychopath. If he were there wouldn’t be that weeny bit of concience left that makes him need convincing that saying a great big fuck-you to the rest of humanity is the way to go.
Personally, I hope to go down speaking the truth and not taking advantage of anyone else’s misfortune to secure a few more weeks or months. Nobody is going to get out of this alive, in the longer run, but it’s possible to exit with honour.
I’ve mentioned already that there’s one really, really important job waiting for those that make it through to whatever comes after – there will be a heck of a lot of orphaned chidren needing to be looked after by decent people, before the indecent get hold of them. What could be more noble than that? One of them may be my grandson, so I have to stay hopeful.
And yes, I know in mitchellc’s universite noblesse is for losers. The trouble with ‘winners’ in such a scenario is that they are not well equipped to see the value or otherwise of what they hope to ‘win’.
mc’s a bit stunted, ain’t he? The people like that can never see it in themselves. I’ve got a friend just like him. I’ve learned when he calls just to let him talk, as he’s not really talking to me anyway, but to himself. I’m just a placeholder
Beautiful analysis there. GA on fire.
Excellent analysis of mitchellc, GreenALba. Brava!
You never know, Mary, he might have a change of heart and found a well defended orphanage. 🙂 Stranger things have happened.
That was meant to be ‘universe’, btw – I wasn’t suggesting he went to a French university!
Green Alba: you are a good and wise woman. Don’t ever change!
I fear he is seducing poor Gustaf.
I sat down and watched 2,000 mules and my takeaway is simply this.
There was massive voter fraud at levels not seen since the bygone days of Tammany Hall.
The meta data used also was used to arrest two people accused of murder of an eight-year-old little girl.
The criteria used to say someone was muling ballots was far above what would be considered provable.
It should be watched by anyone with even a doubt as to whether there was a fair free and honest election.
That Is all.
I did watch it.
Very convincing.
The makers of this dococomedy know their audience. It’s been manufactured for consumption by The Choir, to reinforce already entrenched biases and raise more grift for the Trump Crime Family. That’s all …
From the village idiot who did not bother to watch it another ridiculous post is splattered upon this blog.
Duh?
Why did Trump have to go? It was a hit job from both sides. He was promising the same tired shtick, riling up the masses with false expectations.
I think they were fine with all that, but he was starting to get in the way of BAU, especially the GWoT. “The Joe Biden” has been no better as far as diminished expectations, and might even be exceeding Trump in that regard. Absent a real strongman being put in place, this will be the new norm from now on. A presidential idiot. Any fool will do, as long as they follow the script. That’s why actors and celebs are so useful. They’re vacant between the ears and they’re used to hitting their marks. All they need is a little but of adulation to feed their egos to keep them going.
Dis
The entire globalist structure needed to destroy Trump. He knows them, he wants to turn the US back to an America First nationalist bent.
From the moment he took office, the opposition and almost 100% of the MSM threw everything in the book at him. It was all a lie, every bit of it. Are you watching right now? The Opposition is being repudiated in every way as investigations take place. Trump is bit by bit being exonerated for all the BS thrown in his way. They will never get him for his business dealings, never. Why? To get him, they will have to set themselves up for doing the same things.
Autocracy is coming to the US for awhile. A comparable time was FDR with his 15 years of continuous power. The US needed autocratic rule to set its course. There is no way the idiocy of the Deep State Mob can help the US now.
Set him up for doing the same things they do? That’ll work just fine. As Bernie Madoff said, They’ve convicted me for doing what the Government itself does (make money out of nothing).
Of course by definition the Government has the right to do things citizens don’t – such a police officer using violence against another citizen. But the real question the one of creating money out of nothing, not backed by precious metals (as in our Constitution) or based on general prosperity, measured by various economic landmarks.
We created this government and delegated OUR rights to our employees under specific [ but perhaps not specific enough ] rules.
Our problem is that there is not enough means or consensus to enforce our laws. This is being resolved now.
Yes. I always though Madoff (what a perfect name!) got a raw deal too. He was running a classic Ponzi, just like the major investment banks above him. In fact, just like the entire capitalist debt-based monetary system. It was fucking hilarious watching the rich Jews (he was one of them, so they all trusted him implicitly) he took bitch and moan about their losses afterward. What the fuck did they expect? Everyone of them expected to get rich from nothing at all. Fucking weasels, every last one of them.
Well, we’re you one of the MAGA folks that wanted change in DC? Did you want him to Drain the Swamp? To make change in America and start the destruction of the Deep State chokehold on America? To stop the inroads in America that the WEF were making?
So you are worried about his continuous trying to stick it to the opposition, to riling up the masses to make change?
Exactly what should he do, be an ass-licking RINO?
Go Trump, nail their hides!
What’s a good link?
For 2000 mules for Sister Sara.
The world is going to hell in a handbasket and every warmish day and especially weekends hordes of non muffled motorcycles ride past my house in rural Maine, blasting their bikes by as kids in a amusement ride would do. Going now where, but going there fast and LOUD, producing nothing but noise and mayhem. Aging children with nothing to do but wait for the apocalypse. murica.
They’re producing attention.
They got it.
All the Mostly young and middle-aged White men are now or have been buying Mustangs and Chargers with obnoxiously loud exhaust systems which when accelerated sometimes bring me to fantasizing of sniper rifles, I don’t want to be a kill joy, but this trend is making roadside suburban housing very unattractive. I’m glad I’m retired and learned how to wear earplugs to bed.
Yeah, I know people getting PUs now because they know that this is it.
Look at it this way. A gallon of gasoline, even in a real gas burner still gets you 10 to 15 miles. How much money are you willing to pay to not walk or ride a horse for 15 miles? Lots more than $5 a gallon. Cost is not n issue.
Availability is the issue, supply is the issue, competition for scarce resources is the issue. The seventies shortages meant huge lines and every other day fill ups. Violence was occurring with line jumpers. Some areas had little or no gasoline and heating oil.
Young men like noise, they enjoy drawing attention to themselves being obnoxious. I wonder how many EVs will be sold to young men?
I remember that people were buying the huge v8 cars, (boats) just before 1973 and after the shortage hit, they could not sell them, they couldn’t even give them away.
What the globalists failed to accomplish with their scamdemic they seek to accomplish by other means. Perhaps, in this age of information and interconnectedness, their goal of a 90% – 95% reduction in the global population of humans was too ambitious for a mere modern Black Plague. Too easily is information available and are diabolical plots exposed. But hey, a chokehold on global food and fuel supplies will serve just as well. Better still, a nuclear holocaust because it also serves the purpose of deflecting attention from the sorcerers who have conjured this madness, casting it onto yet another manufactured enemy (Russia). One way or another, the Plandemicists shall not be denied their “quota.” They will get their seven billion dead. And they will like it!
It’s the combination of all of above that delivers the best results.
Hey Dis. I want to see what is going on in NOKO right now re the Crud. The government there is doing nothing to counter the spread, no Vaxx, no separation no masks. An actual control group may be forming. Even now though, this is Omicron plus and not novel Covid. Maybe the lack of serious reaction of the people of NOKO will finally shut these government aholes up.
By the way, last Tuesday I committed what I would deem a heroic act. I chose not to vote. I was criticized for it. And I enjoyed every bit of the browbeating. I bathed in it quietly, exulting in the disapproval like so much epsom salt for my weary bones now relieved of the delusion of my sacred “civic duty” which so many supposedly died for. But, you know what they say. If voting really changed anything it would be outlawed.
I’m with you on this. I haven’t voted for a national candidate since1968. I refuse to vote for the lesser of 2 evils. Evil is evil, and like a cancer, spreads, IMO.
The simple country life is the prescription. Normal life, farm economy, self-sufficiency. The America of yesteryear. Technology of the 1940’s and 50’s. Maybe a color TV for good measure. A bible and a rifle.
Amen, my friend. Maybe a good shotgun, a revolver, and reliable 6 cyl. pickup truck with a “three on the tree transmission” added to the mix.
@brh… good luck finding a vehicle with three on the tree. Back in the 70s I learned th drive one in a 1955 Chevrolet. At least you wouldn’t have to worry about the younger gangs stealing it. They couldn’t figure it out.
And you know USAs future is a white minority, yes?
you think the non whites will settle in peacefully, With no EBT?
Think Rhodesia, sir or madame.
It sounds like a really good bbb proposal actually. A super local, super sustainable enterprise with relatively low mechanization. But I’m not sure about the business side of things other than the students must outnumber the instructors like 20 to 1 or something like that. And those ripe animals may be a little too much for some people lol. But the Amish are amazing carpenters and make beautiful furniture too. And that is another alleged focus of bbb to improve communal bonds so a school can also work in that direction. Unfortunately? most of the agents and minions of the parasitic octopus are only interested in engorging themselves on the remains of the parasitic octopus no less apparently. So a rescale and a reimagining would be ultra dreamy needless to say. .
There’s a few outlets for Amish made furniture in the area; I’ve bought a number pieces out at their shop in rural Kent. It’s really well made and was reasonably priced. These are solid, locally manufactured American products.
Hitchcock furniture out in Riverton closed about a dozen years ago due to suspicious circumstances. The little redbrick plant from the 1840s (now painted white) still exists but is used for commercial storage. Riverton is a village that hasn’t changed much from the 19th century and has the best trout fishing in NE.
A lot of cottage industry – tribal and otherwise – for furniture around here too. Quality appears to be very good. I’ll probably go that route if I buy any more furniture, especially if I move to Santa Fe, which I think I will eventually.
I bet Riverton has a lot of neat buildings and definitely must have a main street. Who says American made cannot be reasonably priced? My parents bought a beautiful, ornate grandfather clock one time from a store (that is now closed too) in Baton Rouge called Country Time Clocks. It was made in America though I don’t think by the Amish and the detail is amazing and it works like a charm to this day.
SSL google Hitchcock Chair Riverton, Ct images.
Apparently somebody bought the name and is selling Hitchcock furniture once again, but I believe its manufactured in NC now.
They even made Christmas chairs at one point! Amazing!!
SSL that clock was probably made here too by Seth Thomas as Bristol, Thomaston and Plymouth Ct were the clock making capitals of N America for many years. All gone now.
Wow that could be brh! That is a shame that the clock makers are shut down now. Like most everything of anything that was made in America huh. Truly it would be nice if we could restart things like this!
From my sources: Fatwa not to be opened concerning men of global management and health.
Praying every day that we may avoid a potential nuclear war is something I have been doing for the past three months and I recommend that everybody do so as well.
Actually, I’m leaning the other direction. I think it might be therapeutic. Especially if the right people get targeted for a change.
Wow you’re not happy that the most popular president to be voted in to office ever in the whole history of the world is eager to start a major cataclysmic war with both Russia and China at the same time? What? You don’t like shortages and sky high prices? What is up with you lol? JK..I understand completely. But arrogance and pride have a shelf life and an expiration date too. The Lord doesn’t suffer fools
The prayers seem to be working thus far.
Not today Satan!! lol 🙂
You’re not going to move up the organization with that attitude, Q.
What do I think? I think you’re overly romanticizing Amish skills, daily life, and community cohesiveness. You also are perhaps discounting that like all Protestant sects, there is no one Amish group. Amish tend to fracture and split even within the same communities. The suspender arguments (wearing left/right/or both), and steel wheel squabbles, are good examples. So called “Amish” skills, agrarian knowledge, and independence from English life isn’t as all encompassing as many imagine. Without us – they can’t survive. It’s a parasite/host system. Has been for well over 150 years.
Is it a good idea for people to learn how to grow and can tomatoes? Sure. Sew their own underwear and keep a few laying hens if possible? Why not? Get along without the Internet and a daily shower? Okay. Learn to a scythe and bank a fire over night? It wouldn’t hurt. But if you think you can teach people skills acquired over an individual lifetime, founded upon generations of experience in a classroom setting – you’re in for disappointment. – Signed, Old English Farm Wife
Well symbiotic relationships are very natural indeed so the parasite/host system reference makes a lot of sense. But so also does the whole fracturing and splitting of communities. That is also something that has just happened from the beginning of time with people. But I suppose I see the glass as half full. Sure, students may not be able to learn a teacher’s full breadth of experiences and skills, but the efforts to pass knowledge down are extraordinarily critical in my estimation. And I am pretty certain that Mr. K is referring to hands on learning and not classroom lectures or anything. It is worth a try iow even if there are disappointments.
One has to start somewhere. The peculiar relationship may continue in any case. They have the knowledge, we have the guns.
Oh, you mean like between the elites and the deplorables? Hmmm maybe I suppose. But in that specific instance I was hoping for a break up lol, in that specific instance
No, the Elite have plenty of guns behind them too. I meant between the Deplorables and the Amish.
They have guns. Lots of them
For hunting? Or will they defend themselves?
It’s Mrs. G. actually 🙂
Amish can’t teach you anything you can’t learn on YouTube. Or from reading a good book on a subject you’re interested in. You’d be surprised what the Amish don’t know or the collective knowledge and wisdom they’ve forgotten.
If you truly want an education in self-reliance and sustainability, you begin with an inventory of your own personal skill set. Anybody can do this.
Start by turning off the electric power and incoming water at the main in your house for 48 -72 hrs. A long week-end works well for this.
Do not go to the grocery store for 6 weeks; and kill the TV and Internet.
With that lived experience, (it will be unpleasant & inconvenient), you will be able to make a study program of practical skills to begin your education; and discover the living arrangement modifications and changes to your mental outlook that you should pursue. You’ll need to honestly understand your situation in order to learn,change, and survive. Anybody can do it if they really want to
ForgottenJews.org running an infomercial on AMC first thing this morning. Old Jewish women – prototypical everyone’s grandma – on TV kvetching in subtitles about some tragic this or that before heroic American soldiers came and saved her. Of course this time all we have to offer is money. Well, imagine that, since that’s all they want anyway. My money to anonymous Jews based on this horseshit? Not on your fucking life old woman. Might try Goldman Sachs in NYC. I hear they’ve probably got some, not that you’ll ever see a dime of it. Shoot a banker and have a nice day!
They do this on Fox News all the time. Utterly shameless exploitation of stupid White conservatives. Never give a sucker an even break.
I think a mechanic gave me an even break. He gave me a laundry list of 2000 dollars worth of repairs. But he told me I have a bad oil leak when I don’t seem to have one at all (I keep checking). And that he had disconnected the ridiculous alarm system that he had not disconnected. I think he gave me some obvious hints that he was about to take me to the cleaners. I’m very grateful and will not be using him again.
was cars for causes a jewish org?
with horrid ad[s] that may be on utube.
what or who is forgotten?
Well, they’re contractually obligated to push the whole ‘holocaust’ thing every so often. It’s part of their schtick. I’m sure it’s actually law by now.
Anybody else watch The Amish Mafia? I’m on Team Merlin. And Mary (on the show) is my spirit animal.
I watched a bit of that. It was fun.
I loved how they were all obsessed with “moving up the organization”!
At one point Esther got involved with an “English” who ended up beating her. A Black in other words…..
I haven’t watched it before but I have seen adverts. It sounds like it is pretty good?
It’s absolutely wonderful and necessary. How are we going to become the Amish Mafia without watching this show?
Lol wow ok well I will definitely have to check it out. Oh I was just getting used to the idea of being Amish, and now the Amish Mafia! I wonder if that is achieving a more balanced state because you would be both good and bad? So much to consider!
That is the whole idea.
The Amish can’t protect themselves so a group of guys born Amish but who never join completely protect them. The English are always trying to get over on the Amish. One English sets up stand selling Amish stuff to tourists. The guy with a bowl hair cut goes to “talk to him” (kick his ass).
The Amish see themselves as a sacred society, almost like a monks and nuns though not celibate. They know it’s hard and it has to be consciously chosen. So they give the kids a chance to sample the world before they offically join. It’s called “Rumspringa” or something like that. These guys never came back.
The Churches deny the existence of the Amish Mafia. And indeed, it might all be complete bullshit, just a TV show. But on that level, it’s the funniest TV show I ever watched.
“Banshee” is another good example of Amish Mafia entertainment…
A movie?
Tv series, streaming somewhere…
All “programming” must have a draw.
Very good idea, that really is. Its really the ‘simple’ things that we need, that are going to help. I grew up in Ohio, so am very familiar with the Amish. They are going to become very important to teach ‘us’ how to do any of this stuff. I am trying to get back to Ohio as soon and fast as I can. The Amish are such good people.
A Great Man speaks:
RT
Moscow expects increased economic cooperation with China as the West takes a more dictatorial stance, in global affairs, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov warned on Monday. Russia intends to build relations with independent countries and will decide how to deal with the West if and when it comes to its senses, he added.
“Now that the West is taking the position of a dictator, our economic ties with China will grow even faster,” Lavrov told students at the Primakov School, an elite Moscow educational institution named after one of his predecessors. Evgeny Primakov served as foreign minister from 1996-98 and after that as prime minister.
“In addition to direct income to the treasury, this will give us the opportunity to implement plans for the development of the Far East and Eastern Siberia,” he added. “The majority of projects with China are concentrated there. This is an opportunity for us to realize our potential in the field of high technology, including nuclear energy, but also in a number of other areas.”
Addressing the ongoing turmoil in Ukraine, Lavrov said that Moscow had tried to resolve the Donbass crisis by having Kiev implement the Minsk Protocol, but the West only pretended to care about the talks, and instead “encouraged the arrogant position of the Kiev regime.”
Now the West is “reacting furiously” to Russia defending its “absolutely legitimate, fundamental interests,” Lavrov said. Western leaders “shout slogans” and declare they must “defeat Russia,” or make Russia “lose on the battlefield,” without understanding the history or nature of Russia, he added.
“They must have done poorly in school,” said Lavrov.
“I am convinced this will eventually end. The West will eventually recognize reality on the ground. It will be forced to admit that it can’t constantly attack the vital interests of Russia – or Russians, wherever they live – with impunity,” he added.
If and when the West comes to its senses and wants to offer something in terms of resuming relations, Russia will “seriously consider whether we will need it or not,” the foreign minister told the high-schoolers.
Jarek: Lavrov and Putin are the god brothers who should be ruling this planet.
China/Russia/India – the much desired (by China) and love feared (by us) Asian prosperity sphere. Why did we help them create it if we weren’t going to like it? For that matter, why did we betray Chiang Kai Shek in favor of the vicious Mao? Because the former was a Nationalist and thus a Fascist? And Mao, as a Communist, was supposedly under the thumb of the Bankers?
correction: the much desired and loved (by China) and feared (by us) Asian co-prosperity sphere.
Maybe Japan and Korea will get smart, ditch us, and join.
Interesting to hear from Russian officials. To me at least on the face of it, it sounds like the WEF stuff is really not going to work because Russia and China are openly saying that they believe in the idea of functioning nations instead of a global borg. If not it would be an awesome coverup which I suppose isn’t completely impossible. But I get the sense that the West has completely lost touch with reality at this point. The elite thinkers or allegedly the elite thinkers at least.
Well those sanctions are really kickin’ Vlad’s ass. The Ruble is stronger than it’s been since 2014. Potatohead can’t even win an economic war and he’s threatening a shootin’ one with China. That outta go well for our rainbow warriors.
Primary day in Georgia. Record breaking voting so far. The minority restriction mandate doesn’t seem to be bringing down the numbers. Apparently most Blacks are smart enough to get ID’s.
Are Liberals racist for suggesting otherwise?
Yeah “liberals” tend to believe that black people are unable to obtain ids because they are too dumb to. For some reason a lot of blacks have been ok with whites putting them down as long as the whites are “liberals”.
“Russia, China fly nuclear capable bombers in joint mission during Biden’s trip to Japan”-5/22/2002
oOps
That’s 5/22/22 ha!
That’s in response to Mr. Roboto’s post upstream a bit.
Sleepy Joe and his backers — the ones cheerleading for a no-fly zone over Ukraine and taking on China in an all out war over Taiwan — seem to have no problem with a nuclear war, as long as it coincides with “Our Values.”
I’ve come to really appreciate and admire how artfully both political leaders and the deep state worked together to thwart irresponsible populism.
Rather than risk a sudden stop failure like Sri Lanka, the carefully managed transition from FFs is taking place in a much smoother and controlled fashion.
Under their seasoned experience and steady hand, they’ve been able to get gas above $6/gal, but more still needs to be done.
I’m not seeing any appreciable effect on traffic, so my guess is we’ll have to keep pushing prices above $10 and beyond to get people to stop driving.
On the political front, like any failed relationship, I think they are tiring of the lies and subterfuge, and would probably like to finally come clean and operate in the open.
Honestly, I think a significant number would sign up for UBI and fully embrace BBB if they no longer had to worry about future uncertainties, including the pantomime of representative govt.
The future is obvious to anyone who cares to take a look. An easy short-cut however is to simply bet 180 degrees opposite what JHK is predicting.
The future is dense suburban; dispersed enough for short range shared EV (parked & summoned from communal charging garages), but sufficiently concentrated to support light E rail.
Dispersed rural is an absolute dead end. Prohibitively expensive fuel for either travel, transport or machinery/equipment, and too reliant on parts and supplies which simply will not be available.
It’s a pincer movement.
Except it’s a crustacean with 10 pincers.
They’re not only targeting your gasoline engine.
Or your dinner plate.
Meat.
Bird flu, grazing restrictions, red meat prices.
Poultry prices. Seafood prices.
Diesel trawlers.
No worries. Insect protein is here.
And just today they announce a beta-version personal carbon footprint app.
For personal accountability of course.
That’s how it all starts.
You do it for yourself before you do yourself in.
The future is NOTHING like the past.
No worries.
You don’t have to get used to it.
Because their future is not for you, but it’s here now.
Just ask the kids.
Slaves in training
In every home an adored photo of big daddy schwaub. We bow to him at seven, noon, and seven.
Haha what a neat observation! It always comes down to emperor worship. Government simply replaces God within this equation
That douche reminds me of a Dr. Evil from a comic strip. These people I live around think they are progressive and informed but if I asked 50 of them “Who is Klaus Schwab?” probably not one of them could give me an answer. They have not yet learned to love ‘Big Daddy’ Schwab. For me, it’s the foreign accent and supercilious attitude that rubs me the wrong way and makes me feel like I’d like to kick his face in.
Russell Brand has a few YouTube videos about Klaus, pretty funny but scary.
JHK another intense post!
how old was the workman u hired, who died suddenly?
someone posted ‘666 athletes dead from heart problems.’
He was about 35.
It doesn’t matter, the proglodytes who do know who he is think that he is saving the earth and meting out justice for disadvantaged people.
LOL.
100th – Right on, so few know what’s in store.
To understand what’s happening, one really needs to forget the past. It’s irrelevant in that it never represented long term reality. Just a quick burst high that lasted 100 years.
People holding onto those memories will soon be gone. The long term survival of humanity is dependent on establishing the new normal. That means children today represent generation 1.
So, to position oneself to not only survive, but thrive, you need to be able to direct & manage a few simple things, described in detail from different sources:
– no ownership, only subscription/rental
– min footprint, 200 Sq ft/person
– shared smart cars, or light mass transit
– virtual reality substitutes
– plentiful drugs and alcohol
– UBI for sustenance
Downsides – in the opinions of hose clinging bitterly to the past:
– insect derived protein
– broad scale full spectrum surveillance
– social credit scoring for reward & punishment
– digital passes recording med/Vax status
– travel restrictions
– money access
One of the advantages of living in coastal SoCal is that you’re exposed to countless thousands of homeless. The lesson they teach is that a small shelter, a bit of food, and a lot of drugs & alcohol is all they really want or need.
Use them for a model of how the masses will be pacified as population levels are guided back to sustainable levels.
Its the “different sources” that also say things like “The long term survival of humanity is dependent on establishing the new normal” that are so adamant about their agenda and obviously hate most of us which cause me to doubt their sincerity.
So you’re going to be living like this too, right? Cuz it’s so grate? Or you’re talking about us not you?
Jarek are you seeing the lines?
They’re being drawn.
They’re showing them to you.
Soros says (today!) Russia and China need to go.
The democrats have been telling you, and Romney, that Russia needs to go. For ages.
The last dominos standing.
I told you so
Ages ago.
Musk tells you he’s for freedom of speech
They are now using the standard attack.
The Assange special: sexual assault.
Musk is aligned with China
Are you tracking?
Soros has the same bogeyman as Donald: Chhyyynuhhhh!
Now is that what they’re telling you
Or selling you?
That’s for your big brain to suss out.
I preach the message
Homilies are for dummies.
If you want to be in with the Psychopaths, you have to take the Sacramental Jabs. Have you? Will you?
You want to be on the winning side, right? In with the “schmart money’? Alright then! Roll up you sleeve, space monkee.
My comment is awaiting moderation? That’s new…and a little weird as it appears to be posted already.
Regarding the Amish, there are various different sects of Amish and their related faith, the Mennonites. Depending on the sects, they may reject all or clear down to next-to-none of modern technology. Where I live, there is a large Mennonite community that uses nearly all modern technology. What differentiates them from much of the rest of modern Americans is that they have a very solid work ethic, believe in family and family values, and believe in caring for one another. In particular regard to their children, they love them, cherish them, protect them, BUT expect their children to work, learn, and to become successful adults. And most do. No amount of technology, or lack of technology will save America if those core values do not exist. And one doesn’t even have to be Amish or Mennonite, or even religious to have them. And no ideology so lacks those core values more than Fascist/Socialist or Communist/Socialist regimes. In fact, the road to Socialism first and always requires those core values to be exterminated.
Excellent post! I started a year ago reading about the Greek/Roman Stoics and they preached: touchstones of goodness, Courage, Temperance, Justice, and Wisdom. Christianity calls them cardinal virtues, and the the core of Western philosophy but valued in Buddhism and Hinduism, almost every major philosopher talks about them.
USA and the western culture are not perfect, but a chance of freedom, dignity and peace is it’s best hope.
I am on my break at the breakroom had a few folks run in, Texas school shooting, oh Lord, Oh Lord.
Yep. The hits just keep on coming.
What a country! I think we’re missing out on some serious profit potential by not scheduling these things ahead of time. Do interviews and bios of the prospective about to be famous shooters and victims on the sports networks and get some over/under betting action going in Vegas regarding the numbers of victims, ages, genders, race, etc. We could line up several in advance to get the hype going, then have a secret CIA drawing the day of to determine who was going to “go live” with their day of infamy. We’d need GoPro Shooters Eye View cameras to record the sites and sounds of the whole thing, natch, and cameras galore in the crowds for reaction shots. This thing’s got legs!
The shooter appears to be a hispanic semi-transvestite, so I’m not sure how they are going to be able to pin this on a “white supremacist with a manifesto”
Fascism is simply the Philosophy of Nationalism for the modern Industrial State. It’s not taught because it all makes far too much sense. Instead they turned it into a “snarl” word like Nazi, Witch, or Racist.
I have to say Janos, in countries where fascism has been instituted in the 20th century — Argentina, Chile, Portugal, Spain, Italy and a few other places — the economic results have not been that good.
BRH, wasn’t Germany pretty much near bankrupt around 1938? Somebody had to pay for all that “full employment”, autobahns and other goodies.
So they were pretty much forced to go to war. Of course that was Dolphy’s aim all along.
That is, not that good, but better than communism.
Well it has to include free enterprise. You can’t just have the Big Guy controlling everything or even delegating this power. People need a lot of freedom in this area – so that the creativity and initiative can flow. Did they allow that?
Big business in key industries is another thing entirely.
I’m not sure. Actually facism had a pretty good run in Italy under Mussolini (who came up with the whole concept) but the whole got derailed by the war.
the whole project …
FFS, Jarek, Fascism. Really?
Fascism was explained to me as reinvigorating older traditions, some of them pre- Christian but none were heavily collectivist or ant- family. You must mean exclusively Communistic.
Newsflash! Don’t buy that baby formula imported from Europe on the air force plane…it’s laced w/ poison! Wait ’til that good ol’ factory in Sturgis, MI gets geared up again be4 you buy. Your little he/she/it can hang on a few more days, can’t he/she/it? Mike Pence and Kamala Harris in 2024. Should be a dandy.
whats this about?
A Jewish woman charged with spray-painting two swastikas on a Brooklyn bus stop took to Facebook after the hate crime and posted “maybe the anti-semites have a point,” the Daily News has learned.
Farnoush Hakakian, 45, was arrested Wednesday and charged with criminal mischief as a hate crime for the May 5 broad-daylight incident in Borough Park.
“I am Jewish. This is my art, this is how I express myself. I don’t agree with Judaism and how the Jewish people are,” Hakakian told investigators when she was arrested, according to a law enforcement source.
Im gonna steal my own bike.
That will increase your street cred….
Bless her little heart!
Interesting to see Greg Abbott w/ head down reading from a script. Real remorse for the TX shooting victims. Bang bang, my baby shot me down (Cher, 1969). Easy kum, easy go. Uncle Joe tonite at 8:15. Should be a dandy.
8:15? That’s past his bedtime ain’t it? He’ll have to get a meth/steroid booster to keep him coherent.
Looked like he was in a wheelchair at NASCAR the other day. Is that right?
That was Abbott.
Looks like a hate crime against Whites, tom. Is that possible in your little red book?
Gr8! Farm, Pray, Amish.
Not too sure they’d take kindly to a catholic smoker of a certain age with no discernible skills, but I’d take that class, and join them if they let me. It would be better than hanging out with the fully boosted nuns & mother superior overseeing the drinking of diet coke and eating ramen till the food bank goes under.
Gotta tell yah I buy what I can and grow a very little and know we’re lucky the mob hasn’t already decimated the stores. But shelves are emptier, and still I’m the joke for warning peeps on markets and famines and wars and jabz.
Hard time not just weeping constantly. But good to read this & you all here.
No need to warn. It’s coming quickly either way and no amount of prep is going to prepare anyone long term.
Yah. Gets brutal what with the roll eyes at every turn. Don’t know how jhk handles it.
Still smoking? Did you at least get Indian tobacco and roll your own?
Still schmokin’ in da mahket
An donchu fugettit!
No more injun tabbaki. Boohoo.
The USA, the country too weak to live, the country of senseless young death, the shooting range for the deranged, the killing zone, bullets flying like hailstones shattering bones, put the dead under, put up the stone, as the elites sit on the throne and say,
“We better move fast; we better finally do something……”
Out go their hearts and prayers. But they can’t get the lead out.
What could possibly be done at this point?
We’d be better off all issued guns and told to just finish it already. Shoot someone, shoot yourself, or better yet, BOTH. We’re beyond redemption.
70+ years of mischief overseas has finally come home to roost. I think Karma’s having its turn now. We fully deserve this. ALL OF IT.
Yet the ‘die hard’ GOP refuses to consider any gun reform laws. Who’s not “getting the lead out”?
Who are we kidding? They won’t happen, they won’t work, and they’ll never be enforced. Laws won’t fix what we’ve got. We’re terminal. A scourge that needs to exterminated.
There’s a double meaning here, for those not too quick on the uptake.
RL,
Well, consider this scenario;
You see the poor, living in cardboard boxes under the interstate. You, with compassion, sell ALL your possessions, and give the proceeds to the unfortunate.
You are now one of the unfortunate, while those given your largess receive only temporary respite, and then become neighbors in the cardboard condos.
Considering the last two years, you trust the government to provide you with safety and the rule of law?
When guns are outlawed, only the Government will have guns…along with scofflaws, bad guys, ferals, and those predators who now would have absolutely no fear of you.
A classic strawman, EF. Disappointing. Not your usual style.
Also, a little bemusing that you seem to think all this has happened since the 2020 election? Pleeeease!
RL,
Since 2000? No, I have been living with these vacuous gun control attempts all my adult life.
I would suggest that any “common sense” gun control sanction is anything but. It is a death of 1000 cuts Every outrage brings another call to “reasonable” gun control.
RL, do you know that a single-shot rifle can be fired as fast as you can load and pull the trigger? Why do civilians need that kind of firepower? Do you know that a “sniper” rifle, one with a scope, can kill at 1000 yards? Civilians do not need to shoot “Bamby” at that distance.
Have you been following the news? Do you believe in the rule of law? Do you think you will have it forever? Do you even care? Most riots are mostly peaceful. The Police are more of a danger to you than the unruly, but usually peaceful protestors. Most blacks in the prison system are innocent, do not belong there, and should be released.
I have to assume you have lead a charmed life…one without undue drama, or actual victimization. Good for you, but bad for your worldview.
Oh, and RL, I apologize if I sould strident…the issue is a 3rd rail….
RL,
As far as a strawman argument….
I consider any “reasonable, common sense” gun control laws as being designed and intended as an icremental destruction of the 2nd A. There is no line where the gun control issue can be settled less than total and absolute disarmament of the public. None.
And THAT is why I would question your “Strawman” comment.
Is there any word yet whether this latest perpetrator (Uvalde, TX massacre) was a known kook with a manifesto?
Beta O’Dork don’t need one
He was only 14 y/o, reportedly. While all kooks were 14 once, few are kooky at 14.
No, he had no manifesto. His manifesto was “f#kk all of you!”.
It’s past 8:15 in flyover country. Where the fuck is Uncle Joe? In bed?
Another 14 kids in the trash in TX and all Rick Abbott can do is read from a transcript. We want Joe, the righter of all wrongs! He’ll set things straight……………………won’t he?
It looks like Ukraine is on its last legs with no Airforce or Navy to speak of and very few Army or Marine formations left in the field; the units remaining are being pounded mercilessly by Russian artillery. The question now is, that $54 billion forked over without reservation by the USA — who gets it? Rand Paul held up the vote, demanding accountability. He lost, there will be no accountability. It’s starting to seem like the whole “We stand with Ukraine” mania was an enormous grift … from Day 1.
Duh?
Billions in and millions squeezed out money laundering 101.
It’s all one big grift with Joe Biden and his Democrat mafia.
Just one Ukie Church in my town has already sent 11 shipping containers full of “stuff” to Ukraine. They had a carwash and raised thousands in CASH to be sent somewhere. Somewhere being over there somewhere. Same somewhere my $450 bucks went that the Feds sent of my income tax money. That’s one church in one small city in America. There is so much cash flying into Ukraine it’s crazy.
and the rich soil has been bombed.
Every time someone asks us if MX is safe, I say something like “has the State dept issued a travel warning yet for the US? Why not?”
My wife, being much more clever than I, succinctly said, “they may be rowing in circles, but they’re all rowing together”.
To really understand just how fucked the US truly is, do yourself a favor and travel somewhere with a mono culture. You know, like MX.
The USA represents the pinnacle in competitive achievement; hands down, no question. But that same high strung desire for personal expression and financial success comes with a really high price tag.
When things go south, when the entire rule book is changed, thats when trouble begins. As the noose is tightened and reality really begins to set in, this place is only going to become progressively more dangerous.
Ok yeah that is making sense.
“But that same high strung desire for personal expression and financial success comes with a really high price tag.”
I agree with your assessment and forecast. I would also submit that the same is potentially extraordinarily dangerous in the safest of times and with rule books in place. And that now this place is becoming a cautionary tale.
In a nutshell, what Mitch seems to be saying in his posts is that resistance is futile, we are f#kkd already, just make the most of it; even enjoy your fate if you can.
I did get that sense of course but I guess I heard something else too
Not sure where “Your comment is awaiting moderation” comes from !!
M…traveling to Mexico is no more dangerous than taking a NYC subway or being an elementary school student in Uvalde, TX (hardly a “suburb” of San Antonio, btw). Buck up to the new world, man!
Media is having trouble spinning the school shooting in Texas, the shooter being an “Anchor Baby”, so the racial angle can’t be played up; This will most likely end up being a gun control and mental health story.
Will this actually come down to another crazy Satan worshipper?
Will we ever get the real story?
From that remark, I gather that you won’t believe you have the ‘real story’ till it’s turned into something weird – a demonic possession or suchlike.
Hang around on Fox and ONANist Network News long enough and you’ll surely get your wish, eventually.
So rl when was the last time you engaged in some spirit cooking or blood magik?
Well, I guess I am prescient because I guessed it he was an occult loving satanist.
You crack me up, benr…consistently in the conspiracy clouds, and seeing demons and pedophiles under every rock.
This from the guy who literally wrong about everything.
Guess you got another one wrong.
Anchor baby?
What evidence?
And even with evidence that he is a child of “illegals”…
are you serious?
The ignorance here is almost palpable.
Thick as fog.
A coterie of mostly tards.
Do you not know the history of the American southwest? Texas?
Oh my heavens there are Hispanics in the American southwest! Some families since the days of the Canarios and mestizo comanchero! Unbelievable!
They have more historical connection to this land, this country, than my fat pasty ass up in Toledo (Ohio)!
And what of dead “anchor babies”? There maybe a few.
The chains to their anchors are stronger than yours
Fair enough Avatar.
When southerners began moving into Texas (along with Yankees like Stephen Austin from Durham, Ct) in the late 1820s Texas had belonged to Mexico for about 10 years, and perhaps about 3000 Spaniards lived in the entire territory. In the 1780s Spain owned up all the way thru Kentucky, Tennesee, Missouri, Alabama and Louisiana — so you can say that those states are historic Hispanic territory too. In 1804, hearing that Jefferson had sent Lewis & Clark on an expedition of discovery into the West, Spain dispatched at least 3 small armies to destroy the Americans, but never found them.
So it’s been a struggle for hegemony in the New World all the way down the line, Avatar, from Day 1.
I’m not sure what mental gymnastics you’re attempting but it’s a faceplant nevertheless.
The point is that West Texas IS Hispanic.
It is mostly extremely poor, ignored, and Hispanic.
Ranch land, pecan groves, pumpjack servicing.
You think because he’s Hispanic and American he must be an anchor baby.
Even though his family, his people, might possibly have historical lineage that goes back to pre-Columbian times. Before any of your tenuous ancestral claims.
Far beyond your tenuous claims. What you got a passport? A birth certificate? Issued by the gubmint? Somewhere far from West Texas.
There is no struggle. He is American.
Suicidal, violent, helpless.
Can’t you tell?
Wake up
That doesn’t change the fact that Senor Ramos is AN ANCHOR BABY
. I went to the University of Texas at El Pasao from 1970 to1974 El Paso was a thriving vibrant city. Now it’s just a liberal shithole. Maybe you ought to wake up
Well 100 Avatar is doesn’t matter one tinker’s damn if his ancestor was Montezuma; his parents came into the United States illegally; he was born here and that makes him AN ANCHOR BABY. You get the Darwin Award for the following most ridiculous statement: Even though his family, his people, might possibly have historical lineage that goes back to pre-Columbian times. Before any of your tenuous ancestral claims.
Far beyond your tenuous claims. What you got a passport? A birth certificate? Issued by the gubmint? Somewhere far from West Texas.
There is no struggle. He is American.
Suicidal, violent, helpless.
Can’t you tell?
What evidence that he is an anchor baby?
His parents citizenship/immigration status?
He was born here that makes him a US citizen lest you are confused.
Does that make him more culpable?
Does that “explain” everything for you?
Just another racist imbecile, how novel.
What makes you Mr. America?
Hate?
Being a member of a Nation is first and foremost a thing of the Spirit – not a legal technicality like being the product of a squat and drop.
You’re not even worth answering
Because you’re ALWAYS wrong
Janos = wrong
You’re also missing the forest for the trees.
And
Proving
My
Point.
There is a nation in southwest Texas.
People unbounded by borders.
A people.
A deep culture
You believe in the state. The country.
You think a passport, a tax ID confers nationhood.
Membership
Arbitrary government boundaries.
At least you wish it did.
Or at least you wish all white people from coast to coast did
I submit to you that the people of southwest Texas have more kinship with people of San Antonio, Las Cruces, Piedras Negras, Ojinaga, or Juárez than some closet queen lily white Oregonian racist with a cat fetish.
And I’m not even selectively referencing the Hispanic ones.
I’m speaking of the “white” Texans who live there as well.
Have you been there?
Lived with them?
Worked with them?
It’s mostly hard work.
“Manly” work so I assume not.
You’re the interloper.
You wouldn’t last a hot minute among them.
Well they won’t be White very much longer, eh? From what I’m see of that town, only a few old Whites are left there. Problem solved, right creep?
Left there?
They were ALWAYS there.
You can’t fix Janos, and you can’t fix stupid.
Now we defeated them in battle and took Texas from them. Learn some history.
racial angle? he looks brown latino to us.
were his folks citizens when he was born?
Here’s the thing that all the primitive reptilian brain bound folks around here can’t seem to understand:
Does it matter?
Y’see, the primitive brained, the non-thinkers, and here they are legion, want to believe that this confers an explanation.
“If we didn’t have them damn wetbacks here this kinda thing would never happen”
“Uh, if an illegal didn’t plop out a bebe well dammit this sort of thang would never happen! Murica!”
Your primitive sorting brain wants to place the mystery somewhere. Anywhere. Causality. As primitive as thinking gets.
Because the primitive live on an effect having a definite cause.
Fire hot
Bear dangerous
Woman me like
Man me like, but not like like that
Brown people bad
Light brown people illegal (and also bad)
White mass murdering racist.. me totally understand but can’t say out loud.
That’s how 90% of the cromags here rationalize.
This is the extent of the logic their minds have developed: primeval.
This murdering psychopath was no different than the others.
The cohort of almost all white teenage mass murderers.
Now this causes a problem for y’all’s disgusting primitive brains and your elementary logic.
And this is where the discontent, the dissonance arises.
There must be something else.
He must be unmurican
fucking gaggle of retards
No, he wasn’t White, moron, He was a Latino. Your hatred of Whites is making you irrational.
The Buffalo shooter was Latino. Is that right?
You have been nowhere and have done nothing.
Always in your comfort zone.
And that is not born from high birth, No, it is born from cowardice.
Fear
You’re forced to live in it, and misery loves company, so you try and try to peddle it.
We can all sense it.
Of course you have had to adjust your tone.
Just like a cat from your harem you have 9 lives.
Lives to post another day.
So you moderate and now your watered-down racism rarely goes beyond: they have theirs so why can’t we whites have ours?
But most whites want nothing to do with you.
Except perhaps the losers. The ones with flags in their basements and nothing left to support them beyond their skin.
The soft alabaster.
The crumbling kind.
We’re talking about the one in Texas, dipshit.
You need to own up to your own anti-White racism and/or go live in a non-White country. Maybe Israel? Or is that still too white for you? They look down on the brownies there too.
Re: Gun Control – until 1959, every single legal article on the Second Amendment concluded that it was not intended to guarantee individuals the right to own a gun. HR8 is a move to at least background check gun purchasers, but the GOP Clown Car in the Senate filibuster to avoid even debating it, let alone passing it.
Everyone in old America on the frontier or in the country side had a rifle.
What a stupid thing to say.
In his novel, “Junky”, Burroughs talks about how his dealer would mention “the connections” and what they were saying about “the supply”, all the while speaking in a sepulchral tone.
Recently White Nationalist connections have lately been remembering this:
“The 1965 Immigration Reform Act promoted by President Kennedy, drafted by Attorney General Robert Kennedy, and pushed through the Senate by Ted Kennedy has resulted in a wave of immigration from the Third World that should shift the nation in a more liberal direction within a generation. It will go down as the Kennedy family’s greatest gift to the Democratic Party.” – Patrick Reddy, Democratic Consultant, 1998
Jarek: I knew Ted was the point man on this, and I’m not surprised that Bobby was involved, but I had no idea that it had been give a pass by JFK before his death. I’ve lost a lot of respect for him. Thus they were all tools of the nascent New World Order and its American branch, already coming into power. Perhaps JFK didn’t go along with enough of it to be allowed to live. He apparently questioned the Federal Reserve System. If he could question that, why not question this too? Ah well, that is fallen human nature. Smart and stupid at the same time.
That is one of Dan Bongino’s warnings – that smart stupid people are the most dangerous of all. Smart smart people according to him recognize their limts as do stupid stupid people. But then in your example it-s like the smart smart and stupid stupid people are potentially not fallen, which isn’t possible if they are human. So there are issues with it but conceptually it does seem to have some merit.
The more brilliant the person, the bigger their errors. The have more mental power to go against common sense and natural law. Like believing race isn’t real. That Blacks are our intellectual equals and that we’re all going to get along.
The best example of all? Lucifer.
I can see where that is a sad condition in some ways. Brilliant but yet prone to big blunders. Like you said, such is fallen human nature. Though it still is unclear how Lucifer fell. Being that he is not human at all.
Louis ‘fell’ by refusing to bow to a mere mortal woman as I understand it.
But if one (be they angel, god, or human) has the Beatific Vision, how could they ever go so wrong?
A bad bunch.
No. Pride, bitchez.
An Amish skills school is a wonderful idea. This could be replicated in many parts of the US. There are Amish / Mennonite communities in much of the Midwest as well.
The Amish(read: American) Build Back. An easy sell, Mr. J.
Of what use can the interstate highway system be put once private ownership of automobiles becomes unaffordable? (Which is inevitable with the advent of out of reach EVs)
It will be great for biking!
To replace the Rails to Trails bikepaths, which will be returned to their original function . . . I hope . . .
They’ll revert to their originally intended use. Express movement of military (and now law enforcement paramilitary) personnel and equipment to hot spots throughout the country. Hardly ironic that they were copied directly from Herr Hitler and Nazi Germany, since we’ve now assumed (and superseded) their role in history.
Really?
Where are the concentration camps?
Where is the peoples wagon?
Where are the hitler youth?
I did see the antifa types rioting all over and smashing everything in sight.
We do seem to be descending into a recession or depression.
The American left are acting in Authoritarian manner.
Typically shortsighted. Can’t see the forest for the lefty trees, eh?
@dis
Not at all just seeing who you were accusing of Nazi status.
As far as I am concerned the American left has allowed the murder of far more innocent people in the last forty-five years and is goose stepping on down the road to one world government and mass murder.
Yes, this is why the English built roads in India. Of course they were alien occupiers (like our government) while the Nazis were an expression of the Germany life force.
Your failure to discriminate between things like this is tragic and emblematic of your lowered life force.
I should think railways might be a better way to transport troops, if there is a diesel shortage.
But my understanding of the history of the Interstate Highway system is that it resulted from tremendous lobbying from the auto and oil industries to get Americans out of mass transport and into private cars.
Many of the municipal trolley lines were pulled up and destroyed at the same time.
No going back!!
Not dissimilar to what is now occurring with oil and gas pipelines. Seems like Biden wants to destroy them all.
We can do anything we set our collective minds to including upgrading infrastructure for rapid transit and sustainable fuel sources.
They key here is most Americans do not want to get on a bus, train or trolley if they can help it, they are inconvenient and usually filthy.
benr – “we can do anything” but in this case, you’d need “gummint” – probably Federal first – to initiate such changes. Isn’t “big gummint” one of your bugbears?
@rl
Every project should be handled at the lowest level possible city, county, state, and last federal with massive over site.
That is just common sense.
It is being proven your Democrat party is as corrupt as they come.
Yup. That’s what the interstate highway system was built for.
Marlin the original purpose of the Interstate highway system was to provide highspeed access for military vehicles in the event of a “national emergency” a 1950s code phrase for nuclear war. Hell, perhaps they’ll be used for their original purpose soon enough.
The urban legend was that many straight sections of the Interstate were designed to allow strategic military aircraft (fighter/bombers) to land on them if necessary. As happens in Scandinavia.
I hate the word inevitable.
I knew you would, Amman.
The news is grim coming out of Texas yet another crazy person got mad killed granny and then shot up a school.
As always the left takes up the call for more gun control and yet they ignore the cause and go after the symptom.
The cause is insanity not a gun problem the same kind of mayhem could be achieved using a bow, axe, car, tractor or sword.
Background checks don’t seem to work since this kid was a known issue in explanation Law enforcement KNEW about him in fact most of these nutty shooters are well known to law enforcement.
So what is at play here?
The very policies the Democrats push ARE a large part of the problem!
They refuse to prosecute people for all sorts of other crimes and or violence and lets face it violence is violence.
Time to hold accountable the very people screeching about more gun control laws!
What good are laws that rarely get enforced?
I might add last weekend I was in Seattle and what a travesty that was after two years of leftist violence and endless feckless Democrat rule.
Busted up shops, trash, filth, graffiti, homelessness and antifa douchebags running around and people scared to keep shops open once the sun goes down.
It was surreal kind of like one of those modern-day vampire movies.
This is exaclty what happens when laws are ignored and the PolIcE ARE DEFUNDED AND NOT ALLOWED TO DO THEIR JOB.
You mean no Summer of Love on the horizon in Seattle for 2022?
There is nothing left to show love to at least downtown.
Did you drive up the coast, Ben? Fly? Take Amtrak?
Flew first class on Alaska airlines sipping whisky and cokes the whole flight.
Spoiling good coke with cheap whiskey?
Whisky can still be good even priced on the lower end of the scale in fact bad whisky can be quite good paired with coke.
Coke on its own is too sweet and needs lots of ice and a shot of lime with a twist.
Jack and Coke are wonderful together.
However, I was drinking Woodford reserve and Glenfarclas Single Malt Scotch Whisky 12 year.
I really liked Glenfarclas it would have stood alone with just a drop of water or a big ice cube.
I have sampled a Pappy Van Winkle’s Family Reserve 20 Year Old Bourbon Whiskey and while it was really good I would rather go with a whistle pig or even cask strength offerings from makers mark.
Please! Tell me you’re kidding!!!! You drink high-end single malts with (gasp)…ginger ale???? And ICE???? What a fucking blaspheming heathen!
Absolutely NONE of that left vs. right bullshit is the problem whatsoever. The problem is that as a nation that has committed and condoned similar atrocities the world over for the past 75 years, we have been so conditioned – and indeed, ENTHUSIASTIC!!! – about this kind of violence, that our kids have embraced it right here at home as well. They see right through our hypocritical bullshit and they are bringing about the reality that we’ve so warmly embraced right here at home so that we can’t deny it no matter how hard we try. This party’s only getting started, and it won’t be done until the entire vile, corrupt structure here in the US lies in smoking ruins. Decadence has it’s price and we’re paying it as we speak.
Russia is now exposed to a historic debt default: Here’s what happens next
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/25/russia-is-now-exposed-to-a-historic-debt-default-heres-what-happens-next.html
LOL! Evidently the spin meisters at CNBC don’t understand that there’s TWO sides to every debt transaction. I think the correct term in this case is debt repudiation, which is a whole ‘nother thing altogether. Coming to a locale near you soon.
The empire’s three legged stool with one leg half cut off continues to wobble. The mother of all Ponzis has entered its death rattle phase.
Looks like a fair number of the Uvalde victims were of Hispanic – mostly likely Mexican descent – so that should cushion “the blow” for most Americans in the latest round of kids killing kids for fun and kicks Maybe the youngsters know something we don’t? That growing up in a country this fundamentally evil and soul-sapping, that murdering children before they themselves become part of the problem might just be the most humane act they can possibly perform.
What a awful thing to say
Good. Awful things need to be said.
Good for you? Ultimately what difference will saying awful things make? You are obviously grappling with a guilt that others may not share in with you so your blanket wish of ill will upon everyone around you seems to be part and parcel of the same mentality that gives rise to the nihilism that leads up to things like what happened in Uvalde.
Pretty much the opposite of nihilism. This culture is toxic to the core, and the first step in realizing that is… realizing that.
Yeah but it still doesn’t justify participating in atrocities. How exactly is that different than the toxic culture being condemned?
You need to stipulate if you’re racist and callous or insinuating that most Americans are.
Oh, I think most Americans aren’t racists per se, but given the choice, they’ll take a bunch of Hispanic kids getting murdered any day over any of their fair-head beauties in their upscale exurban enclaves. This one will be out of the news inside a week and never heard of again. Then on to the next, which will be right around the corner. Ho hum. And in the meantime we’ll go back to arguing about the same old left vs. right bullshit and forget all about it.
What I’m really saying though is that maybe, just maybe, the kids themselves have decided that murdering each other right here at home is the most humane, or at least semi-productive thing they can do. I mean really, why grow up and go half way around the world to kill strangers as part of a government sanctioned organization when you can just do that same shit right here at home and have total autonomy while you’re doing it? A star in their own little disaster movie. I can definitely see the allure.
I have no doubt that many white, gunsexuals, prone to prepping and wearing camo fatigues were more than relieved to learn the shooter was not of their ilk.
Some, no doubt, were also relieved that the majority of victims were not as well.
There is truth that imperialist America has itself become a war zone.
Inured to endless war.
Inured to endless violence.
Afar and at home.
Paramilitary tactical teams saving their skins.
Blackhawk down
Republic down
Makes me think of the “Parable of Violent Tribe — Spread of Violence” 46-second YouTube video.
In other words, you people were disappointed so you’re projecting that onto us.
Bingo! That’s what I’m getting at. The War of All Against All. With so much pent up angst on tap everywhere these days, why not vent it locally? I imagine shooting another American is every bit as satisfying as shooting a Russian, Syrian, Afgani, Iraqi, or any of the other “others” we’ve targeted for elimination.
100th,
I think we’ve really missed out on the youth market for all this paramilitary gear and equipment as well. The nation’s youth have no doubt been battle-hardened by now, so at the very least we can outfit them with flak jackets and helmets w/visors and some kind of personal weapons. If we can’t countenance guns, then there’s still tasers, pepper spray, and clubs, knives, etc.; with proper paramilitary squad training for a select few in every school as well. Think the movie “Taps,” which was on EPIX recently. If the adults can’t protect them then it’s time to try something different, and what could possibly be more American than personal empowerment at the youngest and most basic level?
the town is mostly brown.
“What I didn’t imagine was that government would bring such ostentatious stupidity to all that.”
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Never attribute to stupidity what can be ascribed to evil.
From subthread above:
“Small man syndrome: Exhibit A: Mini-Mengele” ~ Hereward the Woke
“Guilt by association as an ad hominem fallacy
…can sometimes also be a type of ad hominem fallacy, if the argument attacks a person because of the similarity [real, desired or imagined**] between the views of someone making an argument and other proponents of the argument…
An example of this fallacy would be ‘My opponent for office just received an endorsement from the Puppy Haters Association. Is that the sort of person you would want to vote for?’ ” ~ Wikipedia
“You got rekt, Shoplet.
Deal with it.” ~ Night Owl
“The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias whereby people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability.” ~ Wikipedia
“Height seems to be a big issue for you, Shoplet.
Perhaps some self-reflection is needed.” ~ Night Owl
There are a lot of ‘issues’ that I tackle, Night Owl, and many of the responses to that invariably end up as logical fallacies of various sorts…
Which could be viewed by others perhaps as ‘dirty tricks’ or…
If I have an issue to reflect on in this context, it would likely be my aversion to the Dunning-Kruger.
Like that guy at the grocery store I ran into last week and mentioned hereon.
“Never attribute to stupidity what can be ascribed to evil.” ~ ShainS
** My addition in square brackets
ShainS, it is possible that some people and groups, given some, at least, perceived, intellectual or other disadvantages could resort to behaviours– ‘dirty tricks’, logical fallacies and whatnot– that attempt to ‘level the playing field’ and that could be considered evil.
What about Sophie’s choice? I constantly refer to the “terrible truth”. How are those burdened with both knowledge and responsibility supposed to act?
Placed in a similar position, how would you manage and communicate the necessary steps being taken to soften the crash?
Would you mirror Reagan & Trump, promoting one last turn at the bar, convincing many it’s not actually twilight just to satisfy your own narcissistic ego?
Or would you emulate “Joe Biden”, the cadre of DS players who decided the democratic charade was over, and that mutiny was warranted – no, justified – given the true nature of the situation?
And what do you get as a reward for acting in such an expeditious manner? Snide comments about incompetence from some, accusations of evil motives from others.
We should all remember to take note that this journey is a one way street. What was disturbing yesterday becomes horrific today. And yet, it’s only the beginning as each successive day hits new emotional lows.
The end game is the WEF outline; if we fail to reach those goals the “easy” way, we’ll surely get there the hard way.
People just need to get OK that population levels are going to trace back to below 1b, that individual energy use will be a mere fraction of per capita today, and that most people’s lives will be lived in a virtual reality bubble.
I think a few of the disgruntled are choosing the hard way as we speak. What the hell. It’s all fun and games in the end anyway.
Mother Theresa said something interesting about the West. She said she had seen much worse poverty in other places, she had never seen anything like the social isolation among the elderly in big American cities like New York. She thought it was worse than the poverty of the 3rd World. Now that’s debatable of course, but her observation stands as a terrible truth about us.
The poor in other places have each other. The poor here often do not.
Of course as a staunch Catholic, she would be against birth control, insuring an ever increasing number of poor people to love and serve. A growth industry, the cynical might say. Hard, but not untrue and thus fair. Catholics and other Christians who hold to this line are wrong. Ditto any of the other religions who think the same.
Really surprised we haven’t seen any nursing home shoot-em-ups yet. Could that be the next wave, maybe? Demented geezers going out in a blaze of glory?
Tbh you are in a terrifying mode today. A cup of hot chocolate with marshmallows (if it’s hot have some ice cubes nearby too) and a nice relaxing rest session in a hammock listening to the birds singing would help. Or any such activity that you may be able to do that is similar enough
You’re just terrified too easily Lil’ SSL. Wild, wild, west, motherfuckers!
Umm, yumm, I love hot chocolate! Why don’t you fly up here and make me some? I’ll pay for the plane tickets. Being stuck in my condo is very wearing. Lol.
Lol that would be an expensive cup of hot chocolate! How much longer will it be before you can get out for a walk and some fresh air?
@SSL:
I do go out for short walks, and I have a rear deck that faces the woods. I walk outside now on crutches, but I have no endurance (yet), so I only can go to the end of my building. I did more the other afternoon, but paid the price when I tried to sleep at night. My PT said it’s gonna take the same time to heal no matter if I use a walker or crutches, so why overdo it? I’m about half and half between crutches and the walker. The PT said it’s a 2 or 3 month process to get back to normal, so I got about 6 weeks or more left. It’s now my17th day, but who’s counting? I’m healing well. I signed up for the NY marathon (just kidding).
“Tbh you are in a terrifying mode today.” ~ SoftStarLight
LOL
Unsure you or whoever read my mention, under a previous article’s threads, of someone, upset about his treatment at and from a nursing home where i live, waking the neighbourhood up at 3 am during the CV lockdowns by yelling and banging on the glass of a bus stop shelter.
I also seem to recall mentioning something related or unrelated, in the same comment or other, about a gun too.
In any case, just reading your back-and-forth, I had a thought about how different people respond to the same and similar difficult and extreme circumstances/conditions, like in war.
Some people will ostensibly make sarcastic light of it, as if it’s a day picnic at the park or something, others will ‘freak out’ like a hog resisting being hogtied, while yet others go catatonic and can barely move, and/or so forth.
As societies presumably undergo their slow, remorseless declines, I guess we’ll likely see more of this sort of thing, if maybe not so predictable that or like in a war movie.
Hot chocolate and marshmallows might work only for some (is that what you like?), but it would be a sweet, cute gesture. Soft starlight lying on one’s back face-up in a hammock sounds nice too, if among the neighborhoods’ screams and gunfire maybe.
Myself, from my imaginary virtual hammock, I would like to order a nice loose-leaf-blender-blended milk-brewed green-tea-with-fennel please. Thank you. That’s what I have these days anyway. Hurry before I get shot or the store runs out of milk, fennel, and green tea. Hugs.
Correction above:
This part;
“…a nursing home where i live…”
…should read;
“…a nursing home near towhere I live…”
There really aren’t any homeless in MX. They may allow a wayward family member to live in a lean to shack, buts it’s still on their property.
The idea of cutting off all communication to a child or sibling is uniquely American. It’s born from the driving ambition that permeates our culture. Fail or embarrass the family to the extent of complete personal humiliation, adios MFer.
The up side of course is the ‘murica as exemplified by places like OC, Miami and other financial magnets. The downside is what makes the news each day.
As far as the elderly, it’s no secret why there’s over 1m gringo retirees in MX. Besides the obvious purchasing power, those providing elder care actually care – it’s who they are.
They like to get together and socialize; it’s a very chatty society. Hell, our cleaning ladies are sisters, and they take forever – doing a very thorough job I might add – since it’s their time to get together and gossip.
<em?The idea of cutting off all communication to a child or sibling is uniquely American.
Bullshit.
Read any of the Bible? Or Greco-Roman mythology? Or any history of any other civilization, ever?
No? Okay. But you must be right, because you said it.
Or the IRISH?? Jeeez. Learning about my ancestors, there were constant feuds and split up families that were not allowed to talk to each other.
The drug lords like to cut faces off and then stretch them onto basket balls. Interesting since the old Aztecs liked to have that kind of fun too.
Also the Church had to suppress the cult of “Saint Death” – an old female goddess/saint the gang members made offerings to.
Evidently the old culture is trying to come back…..
it is modern farming n medicine that makes population explode.
also J did JFK have a ghost writer for his dreadful book?
If i had been there to title it it would be>
A NATION OF WHITE PEOPLE.
Turns out the Ramos chap who shot up school liked to dress up like a girl and was in the middle of actively transitioning into being a girl. What, haven’t heard anything about that, CFNers?
Expect this story to be buried pretty quick.
Should be interesting hear all this come out. Who knows how much of it will be true, but it’ll be fun to sort out anyway. Sounds like another Tex/Mex too, so evidently no overtly racist component this time. Once again, just another harbinger of more of the same to come. The slide into oblivion will not be denied.
Turns out the Ramos chap who shot up school liked to dress up like a girl and was in the middle of actively transitioning into being a girl. – BRH
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BRH, I would appreciate a link or other source for ^this^ info.
I’m not seeing any reference to that in this link:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-school-shooter-what-we-know
Just another dead-end youngster who thought it might be fun to kill some motherfuckers. Wonder how he feels now? I’m guessing totally indifferent.
might be fun to kill some motherfuckers. Wonder how he feels now? – disaff
Sorry, forgot to comment on your comment before submitting.
Disaff, your question (Wonder how he feels now?) assumes there’s an afterlife. I don’t subscribe to this theory/belief. Unfortunately for all the grieving people in Texas and elsewhere (and you can count me among them) once the the perp is dead there can be no justice.
Yeah, I hadn’t read up at that point. I thought they took him alive. Either way, I wonder how he felt after he got done killing them? Was it satisfying, or just another ho-hum moment. I’m betting the latter. Watched a JW Gacy Netflix video a week or two back. He was totally non-plussed about all of it to the very end. Guess you’d have to be, living right on top of the corpses for so many years.
Today’s NYT debunks this ‘trans’ allegation.
“Expect this story to be buried pretty quick”
Is it true, though, Marlin? Or, in your CT thinking system, does the lack of it being publicized mean 1) it IS true but suppressed (by the libtards) or
2) it isn’t true?
@Redneck Liberal:Yet the ‘die hard’ GOP refuses to consider any gun reform laws. Who’s not “getting the lead out”?
The piece of shit was an anchor baby. I agree; that’s one law that if was repealed would have probably saved 21 lives
The piece of shit was an anchor baby. – Crusher
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Please provide your source for the allegation that Ramos (the shooter) was an anchor baby.
In the final analysis, what does that even matter? Unless it’s a further ‘support’ argument for the deluded belief that the “border is wide open” (it’s not).
Says the guy that does not live anywhere near it.
Clueless as usual!
1.3 million allowed in this country since Biden was installed into office deportations way down since then and worse released back into country with minimal processing.
Given us some stats, little guy. Quote ONAN Network, if you need too.
Ah – this guy Ramos, this sad ugly loser of a human being – he’s attracting all the current dog-whistles – ‘trans’ and ‘anchor baby’. A real loser for sure.
Some serious projection there of course you are now attempting to divert attention from the obvious he is mentally ill and all of the above count towards that state of mind.
Jeez. You’re so predictable.
Well, I saw a pic of him in a dress and draped in the trans flag, but I think the point here is that every time there is a shooting or any other mass killing, the left immediately tries to blame it on white supremacists. So I can certainly understand why conservatives would throw this right into their smug clueless faces.
And, it’s just as stupid when rightwingers do it as when leftwingers do.
No. I blame it easy access to guns. How many other Western countries have the exact same social issues have also had 218 mass murder shootings since 1Jan 2022? Please supply a list of said countries.
Today’s NYT debunks this ‘anchor baby’ allegation.
I guess making a comment about wearing eyeliner and being in the middle of transition doesn’t trigger but calling someone exactly what they are due to their parents’ illegal activity sure as hell doers
This Ramos chap must have had some money, as those Daniel Defense (2) rifles he bought are pretty expensive. It appears they were bought with a mission in mind. Was he the kind of sensitive, entitled dude who flew off the handle if ‘misgendered’ and called by the wrong pronouns? That’s a new, but potent phenomenon.
Meanwhile, war panic is fading from the news. Now that the $54 billion has been voted on and secured, there isn’t ant more need to ramp up war panic. This is the time to go on the down low, cut up the schwag, and distribute it to ‘Stakeholders’ as lefties like to say.
One thing you can be assured of, it’ll be a Big Summer at Vineyard and in Nantucket. Don’t be surprised if Zelensky himself pops in for a visit.
It’s why you don’t want to actually leave any of the financial political power zones.
Those leavings have to be spent somewhere. Like they say, they aren’t creating any new (good) land.
MV, Tahoe, coastal SoCal, etc are all booming. An earlier poster mentioned Huntsville, which is a key MIC hub.
The worst thing you can do is chuck it all in some misguided attempt at getting back to nature.
Those dispersed regions were born of surplus, exemplified by expensive pick ups and long(ish) commutes.
If you’re a citizen of the Empire, best to buddy up to big daddy and play by its rules.
No. Best to buddy up to a local community/region with a greater possibility of having a successful future.
“The leaders of today will guide us best into tomorrow and keep us safest” … bad advice.
Now that the $54 billion has been voted on and secured, there isn’t ant more need to ramp up war panic. This is the time to go on the down low, cut up the schwag, and distribute it to ‘Stakeholders’ as lefties like to say.
LOL! Excellent observation. But the way, “stakeholders” is a business term coined by the MBA crowd. No political affiliation implied, as making money is an obsession on both sides of the aisle. Good question where the money for all that stuff came from, though. REALLY good question, as in was this facilitated? Not that such an obvious string would have been left so carelessly dangling unless it was tying him to a conspiracy of some sort, and that doesn’t appear to be the case.
Either way my money’s on another mass shooting (or two) somewhere this weekend. Too much PR potential.
The non-existent $54 billion dollars.
Notice the “aid” has not even been identified!
It will all be spent lining the pockets of the MIC corporations anyway. You rail about “aid”, but it’s a grift.
Today my topic is reality, trust and the media. Is there a “real” reality or is reality like quantum mechanics – it depends on the observer? Scientists say we developed consciousness to better understand our environment and thus increase our survival chances. I don’t know if that’s true.
Truth helps us cope with the world around us. It anchors ourselves in whatever we consider reality. We depend on truth to get through our day-to-day existence. I depend on truth; it comforts me.
The issue now is that our world is dishonest and corrupted. Powerful interests are deceiving us. We don’t know reality. In the past, I depended on the daily newspaper and tv news, and later on online reporters to get my information as to what’s happening. I naively thought I was getting the true news. Now I know better. It is very unsettling to not trust anything I read and hear. My anchor to reality has disappeared, and I have to free-float to get by. That reminds me of when I learned to swim – I was afraid I’d sink and drown.
Big businessmen and politicians lie and cheat; I hate that, but it’s always been that way, so they don’t bother me as much as the media. I depended on it to provide me with the truth. But now I know my last bastion of truth is gone; the media has sold us out. The media used to be known as the fourth estate. It’s gone, so my last tie to reality doesn’t exist anymore.
I’ll deal with it. After all, I learned to swim.
On the old IQ tests they would tell you a correlative career for a score range.
Hovering around 130 was investigative journalist.
If you have a similar or higher score: start investigating.
There is always one trail of clues.
The money trail.
Learn to follow
Deception is a cornerstone of conflict, whether it is war or simply personal competition.
Information control and manipulation is of critical importance. Many peoples perception of spycraft is trying to gain secrets. But another facet includes spreading false information. It’s all part of why captured spies get shot, and the first thing one does is try to control the message.
(Common Sense was published anonymously because their was a price on Paines head.)
The era of 3 networks represents perhaps the greatest control of news and events ever achieved. It dates back to the 1920s first with radio and then of course TV. Combined with movies during WW2, the crafted narrative (still echoed today) stands the test of time.
So yeah, they’ve always lied, and those lies form the foundation of control. But you don’t have to be confused about what actually is reality in order to navigate the truth.
That’s dunk shot easy – just ask yourself this: how does MAGA deal with overshoot, depletion and degradation any differently than “Joe Biden”?
It doesn’t, it faces identical constraints and identical solutions. It doesn’t matter if everyone draws straws or a strong man chooses the losers. There is no way to avoid the final accounting.
I’ve been away because I’ve gone Hollywood. Reading things called log lines like “Blonde Vegas waitress goes Giant.”
A thought.
A new entry in the “Here we go again” category.
Gun Control. The Dems attacking the gun lobby AGAIN! Surprise!
Never let a good crisis pass——.
Gun control! Gun Control, my butt.
Gun Prohibition, that is what the crooks in Washington want. This is a definite difference between the parties right now.
The Libs want the 2nd amendment deleted, to stop the ownership of guns, in other words disarm the population. The conservative side says leave things just the way they are. This is one thing that the Libs lose at over and over because, in spite of all the nuts raising hell, gun ownership has always been a fundamental right of Americans. In an old saying, it was Sam Colt, not the politicians, that has made Americans equal.
A darker thought. Why could the creepsters in DC DeepState want to prohibit guns? Think of the word Prohibition. It has been tried before. Who benefitted by the prohibition of alcohol?
The bootleggers, the speakeasies, ie the black market!
The Mob!
Picture what would happen with gun prohibition.
We would have another illicit trade for the WEF, Amerika style, known as the Democratic led Deep State, to raise funds for the financing of the debt.
Drugs, human trafficking, and then guns running across the border, can you imagine?
I would imagine that with everything going on in the world, the WEF should be looking for another fund raiser. Sure would be grand making guns illegal in the US!
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Another thought.
What happens when the anti-FF folks succeed in regulating gasoline and making allocations. Can you even imagine?
Gasoline on the Black Market?
It would be a tax on FF by the WEF.
Don’t worry. Won’t happen. The shoot-em-ups bring in too much ad revenue.
Here’s how the USA got to this impossible pass. WHat the NRA started as to what it is now…if you didn’t know already.
Heather Cox Richardson
May 24, 2022
For years now, after one massacre or another, I have written some version of the same article, explaining that the nation’s current gun free-for-all is not traditional but, rather, is a symptom of the takeover of our nation by a radical extremist minority. The idea that massacres are “the price of freedom,” as right-wing personality Bill O’Reilly said in 2017 after the Mandalay Bay massacre in Las Vegas, in which a gunman killed 60 people and wounded 411 others, is new, and it is about politics, not our history.
The Second Amendment to the Constitution, on which modern-day arguments for widespread gun ownership rest, is one simple sentence: “A well-regulated militia, being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” There’s not a lot to go on about what the Framers meant, although in their day, to “bear arms” meant to be part of an organized militia.
As the Tennessee Supreme Court wrote in 1840, “A man in the pursuit of deer, elk, and buffaloes might carry his rifle every day for forty years, and yet it would never be said of him that he had borne arms; much less could it be said that a private citizen bears arms because he has a dirk or pistol concealed under his clothes, or a spear in a cane.”
Today’s insistence that the Second Amendment gives individuals a broad right to own guns comes from two places.
One is the establishment of the National Rifle Association in New York in 1871, in part to improve the marksmanship skills of American citizens who might be called on to fight in another war, and in part to promote in America the British sport of elite shooting, complete with hefty cash prizes in newly organized tournaments. Just a decade after the Civil War, veterans jumped at the chance to hone their former skills. Rifle clubs sprang up across the nation.
By the 1920s, rifle shooting was a popular American sport. “Riflemen” competed in the Olympics, in colleges, and in local, state, and national tournaments organized by the NRA. Being a good marksman was a source of pride, mentioned in public biographies, like being a good golfer. In 1925, when the secretary of the NRA apparently took money from ammunition and arms manufacturers, the organization tossed him out and sued him.
NRA officers insisted on the right of citizens to own rifles and handguns but worked hard to distinguish between law-abiding citizens who should have access to guns for hunting and target shooting and protection, and criminals and mentally ill people, who should not. In 1931, amid fears of bootlegger gangs, the NRA backed federal legislation to limit concealed weapons; prevent possession by criminals, the mentally ill and children; to require all dealers to be licensed; and to require background checks before delivery. It backed the 1934 National Firearms Act, and parts of the 1968 Gun Control Act, designed to stop what seemed to be America’s hurtle toward violence in that turbulent decade.
But in the mid-1970s, a faction in the NRA forced the organization away from sports and toward opposing “gun control.” It formed a political action committee (PAC) in 1975, and two years later it elected an organization president who abandoned sporting culture and focused instead on “gun rights.”
This was the second thing that led us to where we are today: leaders of the NRA embraced the politics of Movement Conservatism, the political movement that rose to combat the business regulations and social welfare programs that both Democrats and Republicans embraced after World War II. Movement Conservatives embraced the myth of the American cowboy as a white man standing against the “socialism” of the federal government as it sought to level the economic playing field between Black Americans and their white neighbors. Leaders like Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater personified the American cowboy, with his cowboy hat and opposition to government regulation, while television Westerns showed good guys putting down bad guys without the interference of the government.
In 1972, the Republican platform had called for gun control to restrict the sale of “cheap handguns,” but in 1975, as he geared up to challenge President Gerald R. Ford for the 1976 presidential nomination, Movement Conservative hero Ronald Reagan took a stand against gun control. In 1980, the Republican platform opposed the federal registration of firearms, and the NRA endorsed a presidential candidate—Reagan—for the first time.
When President Reagan took office, a new American era, dominated by Movement Conservatives, began. And the power of the NRA over American politics grew.
In 1981 a gunman trying to kill Reagan shot and paralyzed his press secretary, James Brady, and wounded Secret Service agent Tim McCarthy and police officer Thomas Delahanty. After the shooting, then-representative Charles Schumer (D-NY) introduced legislation that became known as the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, or the Brady Bill, to require background checks before gun purchases. Reagan, who was a member of the NRA, endorsed the bill, but the NRA spent millions of dollars to defeat it.
After the Brady Bill passed in 1993, the NRA paid for lawsuits in nine states to strike it down. Until 1959, every single legal article on the Second Amendment concluded that it was not intended to guarantee individuals the right to own a gun. But in the 1970s, legal scholars funded by the NRA had begun to argue that the Second Amendment did exactly that.
In 1997, when the Brady Bill cases came before the Supreme Court as Printz v. United States, the Supreme Court declared parts of the measure unconstitutional.
Now a player in national politics, the NRA was awash in money from gun and ammunition manufacturers. By 2000 it was one of the three most powerful lobbies in Washington. It spent more than $40 million on the 2008 election. In that year, the landmark Supreme Court decision of District of Columbia v. Heller struck down gun regulations and declared that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to keep and bear arms.
Increasingly, NRA money backed Republican candidates. In 2012 the NRA spent $9 million in the presidential election, and in 2014 it spent $13 million. Then, in 2016, it spent over $50 million on Republican candidates, including more than $30 million on Trump’s effort to win the White House. This money was vital to Trump, since many other Republican super PACs refused to back him. The NRA spent more money on Trump than any other outside group, including the leading Trump super PAC, which spent $20.3 million.
The unfettered right to own and carry weapons has come to symbolize the Republican Party’s ideology of individual liberty. Lawmakers and activists have not been able to overcome Republican insistence on gun rights despite the mass shootings that have risen since their new emphasis on guns. Even though 90% of Americans—including nearly 74% of NRA members—support background checks, Republicans have killed such legislation by filibustering it.
The NRA will hold its 2022 annual meeting this Friday in Houston. Former president Trump will speak, along with Texas governor Greg Abbott, senator Ted Cruz, and representative Dan Crenshaw; North Carolina lieutenant governor Mark Robinson; and South Dakota governor Kristi Noem—all Republicans. NRA executive vice president and chief executive officer Wayne LaPierre expressed his enthusiasm for the lineup by saying: “President Trump delivered on his promises by appointing judges who respect and value the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and in doing so helped ensure the freedom of generations of Americans.”
Tonight, President Joe Biden spoke to the nation: “Why are we willing to live with this carnage? Why do we keep letting this happen?… It’s time to turn this pain into action. For every parent, for every citizen in this country, we have to make it clear to every elected official in this country, it’s time to act.” In the Senate, Chris Murphy (D-CT) said, “I am here on this floor, to beg, to literally get down on my hands and knees and beg my colleagues….find a way to pass laws that make this less likely.”
But it was Steve Kerr, the coach of the Golden State Warriors basketball team, whose father was murdered by gunmen in Beirut, Lebanon, in 1984, who best expressed the outrage of the nation. At a press conference tonight, shaking, he said, “I’m not going to talk about basketball…. Any basketball questions don’t matter…. Fourteen children were killed 400 miles from here, and a teacher, and in the last ten days we’ve had elderly Black people killed in a supermarket in Buffalo, we’ve had Asian churchgoers killed in Southern California, and now we have children murdered at school. WHEN ARE WE GONNA DO SOMETHING? I’m tired, I’m so tired of getting up here and offering condolences to the devastated families…. I’m tired of the moments of silence. Enough. There’s 50 senators…who refuse to vote on HR 8, which is a background check rule that the House passed a couple years ago…. [N]inety percent of Americans, regardless of political party, want…universal background checks…. We are being held hostage by 50 senators in Washington who refuse to even put it to a vote despite what we the American people want…because they want to hold onto their own power. It’s pathetic,” he said, walking out of the press conference.
“I’ve had enough.”“
Yawn,.
Yeah, you would. History and facts that don’t suit your narrative are of no interest to your tiny mind.
“Why are we willing to live with this carnage?
The man said that with over 21,000 myocarditis cases on VAERS already way back in January, fully acknowledged as vaxx injuries by the CDC?
He’s a real bleeding heart, isn’t he?
Really just full of shit.
Notice nothing ever said about black on black violence either.
America has an insanity problem and for a direct understanding of that issue simply look at anything the current Democrat party are pushing.
Simply look at the posts from rednut lunatic.
You’re possibly a great example of that social mental illness.
Why would/should I mention ‘black-on-black violence’? People are people.
Again, the perp has a long history sociopathic behavior and the FBI had “no idea”. What the heck is the FBI supposed to be doing? What is the purpose of the computer monitoring the Feds do? To monitor terrorism? What he hell is Ramos and the rest of them?
The do nothing government strikes again. The Lib buzz word today Is we need to Do Something!
Do something! Hahahahahahaha!
Just heard Ted Cruz propose an idea.
Lock the doors in schools, except for one entrance exit and monitor it with disguised armed guards. Eventually build the schools with limited access.
Guess it is to important for school boards to fight parents than make schools secure.
Ramos got in through an unlocked rear door.
I have an idea:
make the US a place worth caring about
Caring about your built environment
a sense of a shared social arrangement
Your neighbors
Your environs
That kid down the street who dropped out of high school, stuck living with gram & granps. What happened to him?
A legitimate community
But that’s pie in the the sky stuff.
It’s the haves and have-nots
the few vs the many
the them vs us
The me me me me
The life on the phone
The $ $ $
Drone it in phone it in drop it off
leave me alone
It’s all too big and too fast and too analog and far too anodyne
harmony?
Ain’t got time for that.
Yeah, John. Make it the schools’ problem. Incidentally, Robb Elementary had spent $600k on ‘hardening’ the ‘target’ and the local cops had run an “active shooter” drill in recent weeks. All the “good guys with guns” were too afraid to do their job…and Ted Cruz is a disgraceful example of humanity, let alone of politicians.
“Future Shock” has arrived and is leading the way to the Great Die-Centennial, but Alvin Toffler never envisioned the shock of children being repeatedly slaughtered. Toffler was all about adapting to change, but one simply cannot ‘adapt’ to this.
We have little snapshots of peaceful normality, Jim painting on the side of the road and meeting the Amish, people getting ready for the holiday and travelling, people going to work, people posting on blogs, etc., but it’s only a veneer, a normalcy on the surface of a seething, sick society, with only a ‘surface tension’ keeping us above the depths.
Don’t bother going on the road, searching for the American Dream like Kerouac and others did in the fifties. When the schoolyard, again and again, becomes the boneyard, that dream has definitely reached a dead end, except perhaps for the American drug culture where you can dope up and maybe ‘Howl’ like Ginsberg.
great point
One is more likely to score anywhere and find a sofa to daze off on
with complete strangers
keep your cash hidden tight, but nevertheless… welcome
Thanks for not blaming the moral decay and cultural tanking on guns.
It’s beyond me how anyone could be so simplistic to think that the availability of fire-arms is why children are being mowed down at school.
Well, you still claim that COVID-19 isn’t “real”, so, clearly, you can believe anything if you set your mind to it.
Fake Trae outdoes itself in embarrassing self-own.
Go ad hiominem again…after all, it’s what you do when you can’t answer a question. What a Daisy.
When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Heh, heh, heh.
An old saw, tom clark.
There are plenty of Western countries where unfettered access to firearms is NOT available.
Places like the UK, Australia, Canada (I could go on) where kids can go to school and people go to the supermarket without having to look over their shoulder all the time, where kids don’t have to do “live shooter” exercises and know how to hide in fear of their little lives.
So many on this blog regularly refer to the deep angst, the day-to-day fearful tension of simply living in the USA. Yet they choose to blame the ‘other’ – liberals/democrats mostly, and can’t see the wood for the fecking trees.
Yes, they’re beaten, stabbed, and raped by non Whites, but at least there are no guns involved.
Two AR-15s yesterday were used to mow down dead 19 and wound another couple of dozen.
It would be a mighty fine ninja-type with a keen blade who could pull that off.
As well, I’ve never heard of a “mass-rape” by one crazy guy. Perhaps you have an historical reference for us?
There are crazy people – “it was ever thus”. My point is that the difference in the USA is that the crazies, legally, get hold of weapons of mass killing, with apparent ease.
And, of course, you have to attempt to claim that ‘non-Whites” do all these terrible things…yet I’m pretty sure the NY nutjob was from YOUR tribe, Janos.
400 million guns according to people like you this should be a daily event in every city in this country and yet it’s not.
And you ARE flat out wrong they are not legally getting the guns.
The gun laws in place are not being enforced, if they were this kid would never have qualified.
Violent crime through the roof and you fools want to take peoples guns away?
You’re OK with Obama blowing up busloads of kiddies in Syria though.
Hypocrite.
So called ASSUALT RIFLES are not sold outside of the U.S. military and law enforcement to fire a magazine on full auto so you might as well throw in handguns with your hoped-for bans which is the Left’s endgame anyway. Every bullied and F’d up 14–20-year-old is going to do a copycat shooting over the next month anyway so go for the total ban, outraged liberal.
It’s more than a daily event. Do the arithmetic, numb nuts – 218 since the 145 days since 1 Jan.
Mary Quack – oh, please. That’s a pathetic scramble for a “butwhaddabout…?” Could you please also supply reference to anytime I’ve said anything like that? No, didn’t think so. Hey -aren’t you the clever one who doesn’t have a dog in the political scrap? Why pick out the 2009-2017 presidency for special mention? What about the Bush years? Or the Clinton years? Or…any Presidency you care to pick? Several comments above refer to the psychopathy that the American hegemony has been displaying since…basically forever. You really are a shallow imitation of a human being.
Chris Hayes couldn’t talk about the Uvalde shooter’s _______. Immediately he starts talking about a “white supremacist” who shot people in a Walmart two years ago.
He also noted the relaxing of gun laws in Republican areas after a shooting supposing that their intent is to arm more citizens to be able to defend themselves.
The message “more guns won’t solve the problem”.
My point – less guns will not either. He could have drove his truck through a classroom window at 40-50 miles an hour.
Maybe we could look at some of the real problems.
Yeah, historically the worst school mass murder, in Bath, Michigan May 15 1927, 45 dead including 38 children, the Principal, the Supt. of Schools and 8 teachers, was carried out with
Brittany is a lesbian..see breitbart
Yeah, historically the worst school mass murder, in Bath, Michigan May 15 1927, 45 dead including 38 children, the Principal, the Supt. of Schools and 8 teachers, was carried out with dynamite and a .38 cal. revolver. Where there is a will, there is a way.
Stop humiliating dumb kids by making them to to school. This was probably a case of revenge.
In Japan it’s almost impossible to get a gun. So What do the crazy’s do . Get creative. Fire and knives. “YOU DIE” he screams as he burns 30 people to death in 2019 .Barely made the news here. Worst mass killing in Japan since 2016 when a fellow sliced and diced 19 people in a nursing home. Residents move slow there. In 2001 44 killed in an arson fire in Tokyo with no arrest made. But Japan has no guns so that’s cool.
TO TO? DESMOND TOTO?
“Lawmakers and activists have not been able to overcome Republican insistence on gun rights despite the mass shootings that have risen since their new emphasis on guns.”
How could lawmakers and activists increase the trust that gun owners seem to have lost toward them?
It is distrust of goobermint that is increasing the desire of citizens to be armed.
“My point is that the difference in the USA is that the crazies, legally, get hold of weapons of mass killing, with apparent ease.”
That’s not different. Crazies can get guns legally or illegally. You can make all the laws you want to, crazies dont care about that.
He could have taken a kitchen knife and sliced his grandmother’s throat then drove his truck through a classroom window. Its not the tool its the motive.
So I’m thinking that you come here to make vacuuous posts. Could you go do that somewhere else?
“…the deep angst, the day-to-day fearful tension of simply living in the USA.”
Ok, let’s go back just before this situation developed. I’ll let you pick the date.
What happened next?
For most of yesterday’s victims, that would some day between 2011 and 2014 – their birth days.
In any case, I was referring to the constant harping on (IN HERE) by Americans, of just how stressed their lives feel. You’re likely one of them, so why don’t you tell me?
You picked a date but didn’t say what changed. Can’t find the problem that way.
Nov. 22 1963
Your government has been lieing to me ever since.
Cause – effect.
Well, at least they had a birthdate. Millions of aborted babies never did
@crusher
Indeed murder is murder and abortion is murder.
They used to call it aborticide but that sounded to much like the other -cides, so they did what they always do: redefine the word or just make up something they can use.
RL…don’t rag on me, buddy. I agree w/ you.
tom clark – not “ragging on ya”! I know – we agree on many, many things. Your subtlety is not lost on me.
Hey tom lol 😉
Amren
Meanwhile, Georgia Republicans chose Herschel Walker, a black athlete, to run against the radical black Democrat incumbent Raphael Warnock in November. Like many black Republicans, Mr. Walker appears to be interested in politics almost as a novelty.
Mr. Walker was married to a white woman, Cindy Grossman, for nearly two decades. After she divorced him, Miss Grossman accused him of “physically abusive and extremely threatening behavior.” She says he once pointing a pistol at her head and said, “I’m going to blow your f’ing brains out.” Four years after their divorce, she got a restraining order against him. The Associated Press reported:
Grossman told the court she got calls during that period from her sister and father, both of whom had been contacted by Walker. He told family members that he would kill her and her new boyfriend, according to Maria Tsettos, Cindy Grossman’s sister.
In an affidavit, Tsettos claimed Walker once called looking for his ex-wife while she was out with her boyfriend. . . . In Tsettos’ recollection, Walker “stated unequivocally that he was going to shoot my sister Cindy and her boyfriend in the head.”
On another occasion, Tsettos said she talked to Walker “at length” after he’d reached out to her online. He “expressed to me that he was frustrated with (Cindy) and that he felt like he had ‘had enough’ and that he wanted to ‘blow their f—— heads off’”. . . .
Jarek: Hey, he was going through a hard time. So what? Big deal. He was a great football player, that’s what people care about. And he defends Donald Trump against charges of racism. They’re old friends. What’s not to like?
Overall, Georgia is no longer Republican, with Trump’s endorsements not seeming to mean very much even among Republicans. A bad sign?
Continued from above subthread…
“But if, as MaryQueen writes, so-called ‘manly men’, are going to have daughters that would seem to stand to reason that they might turn out kind of ‘manly’ as per MQ’s designation for what’s apparently manly. LOL” ~ Shoplet™
“It would be nice if your last paragraph made sense, but it just doesn’t.” ~ MaryQueen
‘But if, as MaryQueen writes, so-called ‘manly men’ are going to have daughters, that would seem to stand to reason that they might turn out kind of ‘manly’, as per MaryQueen’s ostensible idea for what’s apparently manly. LOL’
How’s that?
IOW, quite simply, I am presenting the point/idea that some ‘manly’ men can have daughters, right?, and that their daughters might have ‘manly’ attributes, as per their fathers. Maybe they have to wax their asses, etc., (more?) because they inherit their fathers’ more hirsute qualities.
It’s a bit along the idea of what I mentioned, under my previous moniker, The Man They Call Zazelle (remember that?) , along the lines of ‘women-as-funny-little-men’ and vice-versa and men and women as different sides of the same coin.
Nature plays with this big time. Just take a look around you, like at the animal world.
So, ya, insofar as Night Owl, speaking of the animal world, wants to niggle over an inch or two here or there for human height, so will other animals, but in many other different ways… Maybe even comparing the particular flavours between each other of the men they just ate after the only sex ever for their former mates.
Maybe if I was what an old friend of mine called, a ‘plastic-ass monkey’, Night Owl, or Night Monkey, might niggle over that and how happy they were about having a more plasticky ass than Robert DeNiro’s, whose ass was a little more matte.
They might even link to a picture of plastic-ass-monkey-DeNiro with a strangely more plasticky ass than usual beside a table with an open jar of Vaseline or Turtle-Wax on it.
Of course then I’d haplessly wade in on the discussion and maybe Night Monkey and you would suggest that I have an ass-sheen syndrome or something like that.
Like that grocery-store ‘Woke guy’ I mentioned running into who called me ‘white’ and ‘racist’ simply because of my amused/intrigued observation that so-called black-people product-logo/icons like Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben’s went missing, while at least 3 of their ‘white counterparts’ remained.
They more often than not include logical fallacies, persumably designed to shut down dangerous or embarrassing, etc., inquiry. Like calling someone a ‘conspiracy theorist’ and ‘gaslighting’ stuff like that.
You’ve gone completely mental, but it is entertaining, I’ll give you that.
And it’s “yeah” not “ya.”
It’s only ‘yah’ in Kensington and Chelsea. 🙂
In fact the upper classes are often referred to as ‘yahs’.
Perhaps shoplet is Prince Charles in disguise. A kinglet.
LMAO!
Contractions: MQ, Mental, Ya
Glad you find it entertaining, MQ, especially seeing as you and your fellow member are the inspiration. ‘u’
While I realize that your little niggle over my ‘ya’ might be an aftereffect of that, let’s at least try to avoid pretending that language isn’t dynamic and changes over time, subject to effects such as idiosyncrasy.
Like your usage of the term, ‘mental’, for example, which was perhaps someone’s idiosyncrasy and convenient contraction at the time that made it into common usage.
I’m sure this will get deleted but I really don’t care. FUCK ALL OF YOU who are blaming this solely on mental illness. YES, he was mentally ill, as is anybody who plans an attack like that. Give me a break with your, guns don’t kill, people kill bull shit. Or that changing gun laws wouldn’t make a difference. THAT IS BULL SHIT. Banning military style rifles and adding more laws about purchasing weapons. Oh and spare me the nonsense that I’m talking about taking away your 2nd amendment right…I never said that. But banning assault rifles would make a difference, it won’t stop all mass shootings but it sure as hell would make a difference, I don’t care what you say, it would have an effect. But instead, any of you assholes who think otherwise, those children are laying down their lives to protect your right to bear arms. THAT’S THE TRUTH. All you far right conservatives care so much about unborn babies, until they are born, then you stop caring. Forced birth in a country that refuses to protect children from being murdered at school. The only change since Sandy Hook is that kids are formally trained to hide, barricade doors and run for their lives. THAT IS THE SOLUTION? Literally put the responsibility on kids to figure it out and wish them luck. I’m fucking pissed, angry, deeply saddened, it is becoming the norm. People are almost desensitized by this. Most if not all mass shootings are committed by men. So is the vast majority of domestic gun violence. Whats that about? Should be a discussion and examination of the broken/vulnerable American male ego. Shame on all of you who won’t do what it takes to protect our children.
Raise the age for private gun-purchases to 25. Increase the penalty for guns getting into non-owner’s hands to 15 years minimum and immediate. Fight black-market guns like a new war on drugs.
No bans.
Gustafson.Robert
Agree with all you say, except for I am for banning assault rifles. No need for those. I do like and fully agree with your other points.
This shi* really isn’t difficult. What makes it difficult is the fact that the energy-source powering our society and economy, and for which they’ve been expressly designed, is flimsy and failing. So, we’re unable to face any minor problem or issue squarely and clear-headedly, because our footing is completely compromised.
Sometimes it would appear that you have to take energy away from a problem to solve it.
Give them an inch and they’ll take a mile. They want all of our guns, period. They’ve admitted as much many times.
There is no America without guns. The 2nd Amendment is the guarantor of the rest.
“They want all our guns, period.”
No, “they” (that never-defined source of all your ills) don’t want all your guns. What utter bullshit.
Jarek – you twat.
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
I don’t think Snor Ramos was part of a well-regular militia.
“Increase the penalty for guns getting into non-owner’s hands to 15 years minimum and immediate.”
That would be really racist. We’d have to lock up half the ‘hood for a minimum 15 years. We’ve got plenty of gun laws. They’re not enforced anyway. President Potatoheads son committed a felony by lying on a form 4473 to purchase a gun and that’s a fact.
WORSE SAID Gun was thrown in a dumpster.
A public dumpster anyone could have seen him throw it into and recovered for nefarious purposes.
Or just enforce the laws on the books.
Every state already has background checks.
Then actually do the background checks don’t just cash the check and move on then act all surprised when some kook goes mental with one.
By the way what stopped the latest round of insane kid with a gun?
Why thats right a federal agent from the border patrol dropped his ass.
An American citizen packing heat.
Go on a shooting rampage get carted off with a toe tag in a meat wagon and publicly excoriated for your insanity.
No kidding Benr, of course a federal agent is packing heat, he’s doing his job.That kid bought the gun legally, so then what? You all seem to think everyone should have the right to automatic weapons. I’m all for banning them, and spare me your nonsense that I’m taking away your 2nd amendment right. There is no need for weapons like that in civilians hands, none what so ever. These children are witnessing carnage that even people in the military have never experienced. I’ll say it again, BAN ALL ASSAULT RIFLES NOW.
There is no need for weapons like that in civilians hands, none what so ever.
Big time saver if you have it in your head to shoot some motherfuckers, though, so there’s that at least. Who knows? Maybe them kids needed to get got?
Funny how it’s always young males doing the shooting, though. Wonder what’s wrong with the girls? Gotta be a lot of pent up hostility there.
@kbird
Sorry to be so abrupt but your absolute IGNORANCE about the subject is showing.
Better go educate yourself before opening your yap again about the subject.
Jeez, benr. Your accusing anyone else of ignorance is so incredibly laughable!
“Shame on all of you who won’t do what it takes to protect our children.”
For the children, the children! Can you not see that your emotionalism is being used as a cattle prod?
Messianicdruid
How could anyone witness another atrocity like this and not respond emotionally? What are you, a heartless monster? There is no logic to this, if you don’t respond to the slaughter of these kids emotionally, then you are part of the problem.
The roads to ruin seem mostly to lead to the Grand Central Stations, AKA ‘government’.
What is government? Sociotechnological overcomplexity more or less.
The tide that supports this big whale appears to be ebbing.
I responded emotionally yesterday. Today I’m trying to communicate rationally.
Answering one of the questions without assuming monstrosity will help.
messianicdruid
If within 24 hours you’ve spent all of your emotion regarding this tragedy, if you can look at the faces of the children that they have only shown us today and are already to approach this tragedy rationally, then I repeat, you are part of the problem.
More assumptions and blame.
Of course I’m still upset about children being killed to satisfy some hater’s revenge for his own warped view of the world system.
Ii is the world’s system that he is reacting to, as are you.
We are all part of the problem. When you can resist being played like a fiddle, we can figger this out.
“Blame is for God and small children.” Louis Dega
I’ve temporarily taken myself out of the news-loop recently, but I presume there’s been some kind of bad school shooting again in USA?
Seems they’ll talk about it and what to do about it, nothing significant will happen, and it will blow over until the next shooting yes? Rinse and repeat?
I saw some documentary some years ago about some country– Switzerland or Finland maybe– that had near no gun crime and they did some kind of analysis of why. Maybe some on here saw it too.
Mandatory school and/or government school curriculum is physical and/or ideological kidnapping.
I hear home-schooling is on the rise. It’s a start.
Another ranter without any understanding of the real problem.
Yawn.
Oh please, enlighten us with your knowledge of the real problem Mary
Already did.
But everyone up here understands that there is no reasoning with a knee-jerker who reacts lizard-like to every issue the mainstream media demands you care about.
Hahahaaaa! Self-owning at its best, MaryQuack!
How much did Soros pay you to post this?
Just shut up crusher, idiot
Take your own advice liar.
Is it ignorance or are you a liar?
” Shame on all of you who won’t do what it takes to protect our children.”
kbird,
You conflate an intensely political cultual and governmental act with a superficial canard provided as a sop to your limited worldview.
I would suggest an ancillary concern…most rape is committed with an erect penis. We need to protect our virgins. The rapes are usually committed by men. We must legislate.
You’re fucking pissed, angry and deeply saddened? Your rage is like the sound of laughing children to my ears,…your tears slake my thirst.
I would suspect, having written this, that if we could. at some time, meet as responsible adults,and discuss these issues over a cup of coffee, that we would not get along at all.
I;m sorry, but I have no respect for your position at all, at this point.
I actually agree with you that the main problem is violent male behavior.
“It’s not bad going through life being good looking, as I can attest ? ” ~ MaryQueen
“If it helps, I am 181 cm, 175 lbs., and look a lot like Ewan McGregor.” ~ Night Owl
‘What does she/he/they see in him/her/them?’
Maybe we ‘look good on paper’… but, say, have a sense of (color, clothes, interior decorating, music, etc.) aesthetics/tastes that’re jarring to others’…
Or smell ‘funny’… or your personalities somehow get compromised, perhaps due to an excessive preoccupation with your appearance or height, and you, say, ‘suffer’ from ‘excessive narcissism’ or are less sweet and endearing than someone you deem short or less attractive.
Maybe you have anger-containment issues… or piss more all around the toilet, rather than than in it, or sometimes forget to flush it after a dump… which pisses your special other enough that it’s the straw that breaks the camel’s back and you end up in court and on tv…
We really did a number on you, didn’t we?
With minimal effort, it would seem.
LOL.
This is Mary’s approach to having conversations when they go in a direction she doesn’t like.
Debate? When she can’t even converse?
Jarek, their particular brand of sub-adolescent-level classic ad hominems, assorted logical fallacies and/or personal attacks reveal all we need to know, and as you notice/write.
Take that kind of thing as inverted compliments.
As such, thank you, Night Owl and MaryQueen.
“It’s not bad going through life being good looking, as I can attest ? ” ~ MaryQueen
“If it helps, I am 181 cm, 175 lbs., and look a lot like Ewan McGregor.” ~ Night Owl
Awesome. LOL
You really seem to hate people who are comfortable in their skin.
You’re not one of the trans-queer-LBGTQWERTYUIOPS are you?
Jarek continues to be a crybully.
Correction: That’s Mary’s approach to TROLLS.
I converse quite well with serious people who aren’t up here just stirring up shit.
Those don’t get conversing, they get their shit thrown back into their faces. 🙂
Dude has major psycho vibes.
Lol I think Shoplet is harmless
Maybe Lavander Mafia, but nothing worse than that.
An excellent and recent piece from UK-based Winter Oak Press covering the subject of the GR and reemergence of corpratism/fascism. This is the same outfit that did the excellent extended piece on WEF that I posted here way back in 2020.
“Schwab described the WEF as “the international organization for public-private co-operation”.
hitler2This corportatist arrangement, which openly puts the machineries of the state at the disposal of private business and finance, was the economic model for the 20th century Fascist and Nazi regimes.
The subtitle for this year’s Davos theme was “Government Policies and Business Strategies”, but the WEF could have replaced the “and” with a simple “/”, because in their “stakeholder” model the two are exactly the same thing!
Schwab explicitly cited “low growth” as a major problem today, by which he means that his “business partners” are not making as much profit as they would like to.
But never fear! The hand of destiny is reaching down in the form of various “crises” which will enable the government side of the collaboration to bail out their private Davos chums without gullible TV-watching citizens being any the wiser.”
https://winteroak.org.uk/2022/05/26/the-acorn-74/
Moved to bottom of thread. No idea how this got posted here.
The rumination is disturbing, that’s for sure, and the stalking behavior.
Mary has no “special other”.
Shoplet said, “I saw some documentary some years ago about some country– Switzerland or Finland maybe– that had near no gun crime and they did some kind of analysis of why.”
Didn’t see it but I’ll guess: the government and the people of those countries believe [ by- live = live by ] the same things.
It probably has to do with the fact that those countries are more monocultural than for instance ours’ is. But I know that is changing now. And maybe also something to do with more closely knit communities, neighborhoods and maybe families?
““I saw some documentary some years ago about some country…”
Yeah, I saw it too…it had that guy that was in that thing…you know….
The documentary possibly was describing the United States in the early 50’s….
Anglin
You have more personal liberty under dictators than in democracy, just like you had more personal freedom under monarchs. A king is responsible to the people, whereas a democracy – or a publicly held company for that matter – isn’t responsible to anyone other than the oligarchy.
Both democracy and publicly traded companies might have been okay 100 years ago, but they are the most easily exploited things in the world. As an example: Larry Fink, the head of BlackRock, has serious influence on both American democracy and virtually every publicly traded company, and he is accountable to literally no one.
So, this Irish twat is accidentally correct in his assessment.
Breitbart:
Ireland’s leftist president has decried the purchasing of social media companies by billionaires like Elon Musk as a “form of dictatorship” on a TV station owned by the Irish state.
Ireland’s President Michael D Higgins has once again barged into the conversation surrounding the takeover of Twitter by Elon Musk, saying that the ability of billionaires to buy social media giants and control how content is controlled on those platforms represents an “absurd form of dictatorship”.
President Higgins made the comments while on a televised talk show produced and aired by a TV station owned by the Irish state.
During the rather softball interview conducted by the state-funded broadcaster Raidió Teilifís Éireann (RTÉ), which covered topics ranging from the commemoration of the Irish Civil War to football, Higgins doubled down on his condemnation of wealthy individuals’ “concentrated ownership” of social media platforms, having previously condemned billionaire acquisitions as “dangerous narcissism“.
While refusing to say that he was discussing the Musk deal specifically, the Irish president said that the “understanding” once had with the likes of newspapers did not exist with social media.
“You had a kind of a code — an understanding — as to what is legitimate comment and so forth, and if that was breached how it could be handled,” he said in response to a question from host Ryan Tubridy.
A better, simpler time
“Then you get the development of social media and so on: why would you say — why would anyone say — that those who can concentrate the greatest ownership should be the people who should be the people who would decide how people should deal with each other in communication?”
“It is such an absurd form of dictatorship in a way,” he continued, adding: “You don’t have to be a mad, left-wing person to believe that, it’s just about democracy.”
However, while the Irish president has been rather vocal on the issue of social media censorship since the news that Elon Musk would acquire Twitter, the issue did not seem to be important enough for him to comment on during the platform’s years-long clampdown on conservative and right-leaning voices, up to and including banning the then-sitting President of the United States, Donald Trump, in tandem with other Big Tech firms such as Mark Zuckerberg’s Facebook.
President Higgins has also declined to voice concern over threats from the European Union — a supranational bloc in which Ireland is a member-state, unlike the neighbouring United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland — that if Musk refused to keep the censorship machine going, the Union would kick the platform out of the bloc.
The fact that they are now just openly associating freedom with dictatorship is both fun and hilarious – and very telling.
Again: they’re not wrong.
Also, they’ve started using the term “autocracy” in place of “dictatorship,” and I also like this term much better. The thing about an autocrat is he is just one guy, so the responsibilities are on his shoulders. If Xi Jinping or Vladimir Putin screws something up, everyone knows who to blame. If a democracy screws something up, no one has any idea who to blame, and all of the politicians just start blaming each other.
Joe Biden is blaming Trump for the economy. Or he was, before he started blaming Putin and greedy corporations. He’s also probably blaming Republicans. Trump voters can blame Biden, but his own followers will believe him when he blames other people. Under an autocrat, there is no ambiguity – the leader is responsible for what happens.
Harry Truman famously had a sign that said “the buck stops here” on his desk – but that didn’t stop him from blaming everyone else for his screw-ups. He went back and forth between blaming Republicans (who supported his war agenda) and blaming Democrats (who he courted to support his domestic agenda). There was never any stopping of any bucks.
Now, the president is effectively the “blamer-in-chief.” Donald Trump did the same thing as Truman, alternating between blaming Republicans and Democrats. Biden doesn’t really blame Democrats, other than Joe Manchin, and instead focuses on Republicans and spooks.
Although Biden is obviously much worse than Trump, Trump wasn’t even wrong in blaming other people. Trump was pretty incompetent when it came to surrounding himself with competent people, and they convinced him to never go nuclear on the Republicans (except in tweets!). But that’s the point – no specific person in the government is completely responsible for anything. I have argued that the person who really destroyed Trump was William Barr – but Trump appointed him! Of course, he could only appoint people to cabinet positions that the Senate would approve, so you can blame the Senate – 50 separate people – for Barr more than you can blame Trump for him.
Democracy is literally designed to make sure no one can ever take the fall for anything. When someone absolutely has to take the fall, it is Michael Cohen or Michael Sussmann, very minor figures who end up with very minor punishments, which they can then spin into new and profitable careers.
Back to public companies – I believe very strongly that Jack Dorsey never wanted to ban anyone. But he was accountable to a board, which could just fire him. The board was influenced by the ADL, who was threatening to use the media to destroy the company if they didn’t do mass censorship.
Democracy is stupid and no one should care about it. Saying that democracy is somehow good in its own sake is stupid and ridiculous. What matters is outcomes. The outcome of democracy is that you have no freedom and no ability to redress your grievances.
But yeah – these democracy people just coming out and outright stating that “dictatorship gives people too much personal freedom” really makes things a whole lot easier to understand, no?
Jarek: Or as Anglin said elsewhere, “the price of freedom is freedom”. If you want to be free you have to give up your freedom a la Orwell’s “Freedom is slavery.”
John Az has a huge mental block about this. He thinks we’re more free ruled when ruled by Corporate executives who have no obligations to us at all. Why? Because he wants to be rich and identifies with these monsters.
What is the Truth about Freedom? It begins between the ears. And it isn’t free. The price is your illusions – all of them. That’s just for starters. Too steep for most? Yes. Thus Democracy is a very, very bad idea if you want to keep your freedoms. The mob will vote its rights away for security and imaginary safety. Or for the kids…..
“President Higgins has also declined to voice concern over threats from the European Union — a supranational bloc in which Ireland is a member-state, unlike the neighbouring United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland — that if Musk refused to keep the censorship machine going, the Union would kick the platform out of the bloc.”
There was no point in bringing the UK into it. The Online Safety Bill, currently at its second reading, is intended to ‘protect’ adults (adults!) from ‘misinformation’, so Mr Musk will most certainly not be able to operate in the UK without bending down for Ofcom (the media regulator) which is about to expand from censoring TV and radio to censoring anything at all that we can see or hear, including Netflix, Twitter and everything else.
Which reminds me that I need to write to my MP yet again today, on the matter of the Bill, to ask him very specifically what part of ‘neurodegenerative disease, myocarditis, immune thrombocytopenia, Bell’s palsy, liver disease, impaired adaptive immunity, impaired DNA damage response and tumorigenesis’ from my previous email made him use the phrase ‘safe and effective’ in his reply to me. I am losing the will to live.
I am losing the will to live. – GA
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Haha, me to GA.
I will estimate that when our phone rings there is roughly an 80% chance that when I say Hello there will be no one on the other end. Those other 20% of calls will be automated and will say: “Hi, my name is Paul and the reason for my call today is that we partner with the top otto insur… click
I immediately hang up and unlike back in the day no longer feel I’m being rude.
too
me too
I thought Eires prez was gay indian..or was he 10 years back?
That was Varadkar – he was Taoiseach (Prime Minister/head of gov’t) till 2020, I believe. Now it’s Micheál Martin.
Higgins is President, which is largely a ceremonial position, not head of government. Ireland has a semi-presidential system, half way between parliamentary, like the UK, and presidential, like the US.
So the lesson is, just listen to Big Daddy and everything will be fine.
Thank you for providing me with your grocery list Shoplet. It’s easier to follow with all the orders and everything.
A propos Davos/Great Reset/ Henry the K–
From Pepe Escobar’s Telegram channel (posted at The Saker):
” THE PLIGHT OF DR. K – IN ONE MINUTE
War criminal Kissinger’s performance at Davos should be summed up as yet another massive failure of his master’s trademark Divide and Rule.
Ukraine/404 has always been a sort of Rubicon in terms of downsizing Russia (think Brzezinski).
It consumed A LOT of capital – physical and political. It was THE red line – success or failure – setting the stage for the triumph of the NWO and its top secretion, The Great Reset.
Kissinger – even as a mere Rockefeller messenger boy – was at the center of this racket for DECADES. It was Kissinger, under Rockefeller’s orders, who groomed cypto Dr. Evil Klaus Schwab to build the WEF and the Davos ethos.
Even if Davos is a mere outlet for the people who really run the show, the WEF remains the premier Influence Scoundrels club on the planet bent on forcing their agenda all across the spectrum. Still toxic after all these years. Yet now even Kissinger knows it’s bound to fail.”
But, like the snarling USA itself, still dangerous.
Living in America is living with stupid
And living with stupid with guns.
Stupid people are mostly unaware of their stupidity, but the intelligent are painfully aware.
Imagine if one could buy grenades like one can buy guns.
There would be drive-by grenading, there would be school, office, Las Vegas casino concert grenadings, road-rage grenadings, gang related grenadings.
Random grenadings. Senseless grenadings.
Some of the grenades are legally owned, some are not.
Some cities would ban them. No matter.
But that’s the double-edge sword of having the freedom to grenade.
And so it goes with guns.
If you want to live with certain freedoms, you have to live with the imbeciles having those too.
And their bad decisions
And their chaos
From voting rights to gun rights
And that is life in America
Reconciling stupid
It appears everybody is Stupid except you, Avatar. You’ve got “The true Gen”, as Hemingway used to say.
Have you gotten out lately?
Rubbed elbows with the hoi polloi?
The tank-top & tatted cankled waddlers in Wal-Mart or Sam’s Club or the local summer carnival, or the super flea, McRonald’s or Taco Hell? Slammed cars trucks on rollerskates and muffin-top bling
The full spectrum of stupid poor blokes from blurple to swarthy yo hillbilly ginger all there for the spectatin’
Now extrapolate that out…
Now I’m not saying I’m smart, but to hell if I’m that stupid
Wrong even stupid people know they are stupid.
Everyone has that ah Hah moment when they realize a moment of intense stupidity.
Being dumb is to be human.
Good point Owl.
I spend half my time thinking how stupid I was in my younger years, with plenty of “What the hell was I thinking” moments.
No, I don’t think so. Read Scott Peck’s “People of the Lie”, just mentioned by Dan Bongino.
As Shakespeare said, To thine own self be true. Some people can’t. And they won’t be true to anyone else either. Caught in a lie? Lie some more. Accuse you of lying! Paging MQ…..
Dan says the Democrats are People of the Lie. Can’t admit that after record voting in Georgia, that they were wrong about mandatory voter ID’s suppressing the vote.
I read Pecks other book, I didnt like it. he is a psychiatrist.
But you don’t. Go figure.
Years ago I believe a citizen could buy a case of dynamite at probably any ol’ hardware store for blowing up stumps and rocks and shit. I don’t think there were a lot of people getting dynamited. Of course there was that one disgruntled fella Andy Kehoe that killed 38 school kids with a bolt action Winchester model 54 ( and a few cases of dynamite)
Boston bombers used pressure cookers.
I saw where a Palestinian went on a tractor rampage crushing a bunch of people.
Student’s sword rampage at Finnish school leaves one dead and 10 injured
Cops find bloodbath after Indiana man goes on sword rampage
Sword-toting man surrenders after rampage in N.J. town: police
I posted this above but put in a link so it did not show.:
In Japan it’s almost impossible to get a gun. So what do the crazy’s do ?. Get creative. Fire and knives. Gasoline works well. “YOU DIE” he screams as he burns 30 people to death in 2019 .It barely made the news here. Worst mass killing in Japan since 2016 when a fellow sliced ,diced and murdered 19 people in a nursing home. Residents move slow there. In 2001 44 people killed in an arson fire in Tokyo with no arrest made. But Japan has no guns so that’s cool.
You cite 3 incidents over 20 years, not 218’over the lauds 145 days, what’s your point again???
All perfect reasons to continue to allow anyone access to semi-automatic weapons if ever I heard any.
It’s the Constitution dumb ass!
Don’t like it get the fuck out.
Just as an FYI links are now putting posts into a moderated status.
No more links.
Yea, I noticed that. They never seem to come out of moderation either.
Yes: I posted a photo of Anchor Baby Salvador Rolando wearing a skirt, knee socks, sneakers and caping his outfit off was a NASA tee-shirt with the space shuttle prominently displayed.
oh my gosh I hope that doesn’t last too long or anything because I was thinking of posting some links, you know, at different points
Training of Ukraine soldiers now taking place in Poland and Germany.
Also mark your calendars. June 2, 2022 10:30- 11:30 AM The U.S. Air Force is hosting Drag Queen Story Time at Ramstein Air Base Library in Germany. “We’re celebrating Pride Month at the Ramstein Library with Drag Queen Storytime! Join us with special guest reader Stacey Teed! Be sure to wear your brightest and most colorful outfits!,”
Will the Ukrainians be there?
I’d post the link for the library but links are not allowed.
I’m sure Putin is impressed with events at Ramstein.
And where is the DoD getting the Trannys? Dressing up Enlisted personnel? Flying them in from the States? Native German talent? Or perhaps General Milley himself will take a break from his White Supremacist witchhunt, show up at the library, don his tutu, and begin reading ‘Gender Queer’ to the assembled 3-5 year olds.
Hard to believe the USAF I knew has changed that much so quickly, but you never know with the youngsters these days. The dorms must be a real side show now with all this. Glad I’m not still on duty to pull CQ (Weekend Charge of Quarters) with all this shit going on.
@ kbird:
messianicdruid
If within 24 hours you’ve spent all of your emotion regarding this tragedy, if you can look at the faces of the children that they have only shown us today and are already to approach this tragedy rationally, then I repeat, you are part of the problem.
if after 49 years, you’ve used logic, “facts” and cliches regarding the tragedy of abortion on demand, without looking at what a “clump of cells” look like after being aborted at 3 months, you too are part of the problem.
FUCK YOU CRUSHER. You only care about embryos? And what makes you think I’m not pro life? YOU ARE THE PROBLEM, a sad, weak man with a fragile little ego.
I am very happy you are pro-life.
“I’ll say it again, BAN ALL ASSAULT RIFLES NOW.”
Then what?
Ban assault kitchen knives, assault pickup trucks, assault grenades, assault language.
Emotional buzzwords and labels are subjective and only obscure the issue.
We have had six major legislations concerning guns over the last few decades and here we are, worse off than when it started.
What is it going to take to show that this approach is not working?
Ban all assault rifles? Ban all guns is what the Leftists want.
We have an obvious breakdown here where the overlook by the law enforcement area has failed. This mentally deranged individual got into that classroom and managed to kill every person in the room, without an assault weapon. What a cold blooded SOB he was, shooting first his grandmother, IN THE FACE, then aiming and shooting 21 people and killing everyone.
So what did the blithering idiot do today, signed a law limiting the actions of the police. This country is as insane as the people running it.
So they ban guns. It almost makes me laugh, no wait
Hahahahahahahaha!
Could not help it.
Prohibit guns? Prohibition? I already wrote on this so I will make this direct and short.
Prohibition of guns creates a black market. That black market will center on the southern border. Another illicit trade will emerge, remember Eric Holder? Wonderful for our Liberal government and their master the WEF to come up with another trade, like drugs and trafficking to grease the leverage skids on their debt machine. IMHO, the debt load is getting heavy enough, in the global level, to require another illicit, Mob driven trade.
Did you see Beto confronting Abbott? What an asshole. Typical Kennedy affiliate.
JohnAZ,
Just like every other far right conservative, you spread lies. Never did I say anything about banning guns, I said and I’ll say it again, BAN ALL ASSAULT WEAPONS.. YOU ARE AN IDIOT IF YOU CAN’T SEE THE DIFFERENCE, these kids are dying for your right to carry assault weapons. FUCK YOU,
The fact that some individuals will undoubtedly violate any given law is not a reason to eliminate such laws altogether. STRONG gun laws, such as those requiring background checks for all gun sales, prohibiting certain dangerous people from buying or possessing guns and limiting access to highly dangerous weapons of war, are effective at helping keep guns out of the wrong hands in order to prevent gun violence and save lives.
Sorry but the talking point of banning knives, trucks etc is just a ridiculous argument, you can’t compare but it’s always the favorite argument that the conservatives use.
KBird, did ya here about the fella in France who murdered 86 people and injured another 458? If only the French had the common sense to ban trucks. Just a standard box truck. What is wrong with those Frogs? Don’t they know that trucks kill thousands of people yearly around the world? Imagine what kind of damage someone could do with a tanker truck full of petrol in downtown Manhattan. I see them driving around everywhere. Oh, the humanity.
Civilian market so called ASSAULT RIFLES are not full auto so why not also go for handguns. If I’m going to go postal, I can do the same job with a Glock 19 and 2 magazines X 15 bullets each. Banning the rifles is pointless and simply symbolic.
Don’t get all worked up now, little man. Just run to your buddy Soros and bend over
Crusher, just out of curiosity, how’d you end up at college in El Paso? I’m guessing you’re a native Texan or you were stationed around there with the army or air force.
@kbird: Well, since you describe them as embryos, no, I don’t think you’re pro life.
Crusher is right, Birdlet.
If you care about kids being murdered, their stages of development don’t matter.
The truth is, like so many on the left, you don’t really give a shit.
Right!!!
We have so many problems in our society with teenagers because they are trying to get through puberty maturation and become a pain in the ass.
So why not “abort” all the problem kids at age say 10, like in Logan’s Run? Parents could just eliminate the inconvenience in their lives.
The abortion Left thinks like this! Scary!
Nightowl, FUCK OFF. You are the typical little man with a fragile, vulnerable male ego, who only cares about unborn babies. The minute they are born, you stop caring. You care about doing whatever it takes to protect unborn children, but when it comes to protecting children in classrooms, you stick your head in the sand.
You get down to brass tacks, is there any difference between destroying a fetus or shooting a kid in a classroom?
Scientifically, a unit of DNA, a creation of God has been destroyed in both cases.
Please define murder?
I’ll allow it counselor, but only so far. This trial WILL NOT turn into a circus mister, you read me?
They don’t care about babies.
They care about women knowing their place.
And keeping them there and forever bound to a poor decision or “accident”.
They are unhappy but content with child support.
You keep “the kid”
That’s what all these chauvinistic fake flexing alpha males are like.
They care about what their TV pastor says about the lawd’s designs. And daddy believed that too.
How many of these chumps are adopting?
Fostering?
I’m all for the seed of crusher being vacuumed out into a wood chipper.
I am 181, so not little. Ego is good. If not, I would not have moved to another country and started from scratch in about every way a man could have to.
I simply am not a virtue signaling fraud.
Like you.
K Dog is back
JohnAZ,
If guns were treated with the same logic as abortion in Texas, than private citizens could sue people who sold an AR15 at a gun show, or call the cops on anyone with too big an arsenal of guns. Then how about the supreme court logic, Alito says abortion is not in the constitution…Well neither are AR 15s, so I guess the constitution doesn’t cover them, either. Life is so sacred, stop allowing guns to abort young lives.
AR-15s are covered by the 2nd amendment.
This is why you can’t have a rational discussion about common sense gun control with millions of people – it poses a threat to their cultural and religious identity, and in many cases their church affiliation. This conflagration of gun rights w/ religious identity probably explains why there is so much cognitive dissonance among people on the right when it comes to ignoring gun violence.
Any argument you make there’s a counter argument for, so you might as well just save your breath. The gun control issue is far too lucrative for both parties for them to ever address it either way, so might as well just arm up and enjoy the fun too. Who knows, you might just get a chance to shoot a motherfucker sometime? Personally, I like the idea up thread of legalized grenades. Hell with a gun, I want some grenades on hand when the shit goes down, or better yet, some rocket propelled grenades.
We’re all gonna die soon enough anyway, so might as well get jiggy wid’ it and throw a big ol’ party next time the scamdemic lockdowns come around.
There is no real rational reason to disarm law abiding citizens unless you don’t want law abiding citizens to be able to defend themselves. I suppose you don’t realize how many laws are already on the books in regards to guns and all. Not that they are enforced. Perhaps there is a political calculus to not enforcing them? Oh but wait. That is right. We have many people who say we don’t need police either. So lets see. No police and plus you can’t defend yourself. Well! It does sound like somebody wants to genocide somebody else.
Oh yeah and btw, Dem Senators voted down a Repub proposal to make schools more safe and less prone to attack. Dems don’t apparently want safe schools which sorry – once again makes it look like some “leaders” simply don’t want people to be safe. Cuz their philosophy is and they say it out loud ALL THE TIME is never let a good crisis go to waste
Softstarlight seems to have trouble comprehending my words. I’ve said numerous time, I am for people having the right to bear arms. What I am for is passing gun laws demanding universal background checks without loopholes, raising the age to buy a gun, banning assault weapons, banning bump stocks, promoting red flag laws and notifying the FBI whenever someone buys body armor. There are many NRA members who also support these COMMONSENSE MEASURES.
Rational you are anything BUT rational.
Crawl back in your hole and pull the hole over yourself.
Clueless simpleton.
Benr,
Wow, way to handle an opposing view you stupid cunt. You’re the simpleton, a fucking deplorable is what you are. You disgust me.
There is no such thing as a rational law abiding gun owner.
Ramos was one up until he wasn’t and on and on.
It is not some static enlightened and eternal state one attains
like gun buddhahood.
Law abiding gun owners are law abiding gun owners until they shoot up the Mandalay Bay
In the US you have to live with the fact that people who legally acquire guns kill people. Quite a bit.
But gunsexuals are afraid to be honest about it.
The price of the right to own firearms.
Here in Germany, guns are harder to obtain and laws are stricter, but that has little to do with gun death rates, IMO.
The problem the US has is a cultural and socioeconomic one.
Most people I know here in Germany have or have had direct and easy access to a firearm at some point, so access is not an issue in explaining Germany’s comparatively low death rate vs the US.
People here are simply different. Germany, for all of its problems, is still somewhat of a trust-based society and a respect for rules, order, and human rights and dignity.
Being away from the US for so long has truly helped me put many of our societal problems into perspective. Remove the media messaging, the overall subconscious focus that the average joe places on media for life guidance, the overwhelming desire to overcome mediocrity or mask imparted feelings of inadequacy by achieving notoriety or power, and you lose the motivation for many of these sorts of crimes.
A gun is an inanimate object. Like a knife, or a fucking tennis racket. All require a warm body to put them to use.
What happens after said item is in-hand begins with the brain of the individual involved. How did that brain develop? What messages did it receive?
@kturd
Says the fool cussing and pissing all over the blog when some points out what a clueless little simpleton you are.
You don’t even know the difference between semi -auto and full auto yet we are to take gun advice from you?
/Laugh
Is K Dog also Take-a-Poo?
He kinda sounds like Tekapo did whenever he’d have a meltdown.
Government, any government, is evil by nature. It, by its nature, encroaches on individual freedom. Socialism, in its various forms, or Capitalism, in its various forms, tear away at the liberty of their respective peoples.
Why? Easy! The basis of all government is power. Power is the ultimate evil, it is the root of all evil.
Even in a family unit, misused power caused spiritual decline and horrendous divorce rates.
The Lockean basis of the US government circa 1790 tried to corral the power structure of monarchial government with its division of power techniques in the Constitution. Since then the evil of the place has over and over tried to corrupt the intent of the Fathers by centralizing power. It started with Hamilton and the Federalists, Lincoln added greatly to it by beating down state’s rightists, FDR almost put us under a socialist government, and the lack of a counterinfluence by the Bush administrations against the encroaching Deep State has got us almost to a uniparty socialist state right now.
What stops it? Realization of the public what is going on and massive recoil against the power structure with the vote. the almost total failure of the Democratically led Deep State now begs for a correction in DC.
The real deal though is that the Democratic Party has utilized stupidification and destruction of individual initiative to tear down the moral and spiritual fiber of America. Right now, more than half of this country may be at the point of surrender of the Constitution to the gimme mentality of the mob.
There are plenty of evil souls out there, both domestically and foreign, ready to take away the basis of the American spirit.
They are EVIL on earth.
BTW, this morning through Fox, WSJ issued and editorial pinning the blame for the massacre on the spiritual and moral decline of the people of the country.
Truer word were never spoken.
The people follow their leaders.
Every child has the right to have a father and a mother. Since single mother families have become completely normal, millions of boys have no role model. It is, quite simply, a disaster.
And girls have no father. I wonder if that hurts their relationships with men? Thus the snowball of doom keeps getting bigger and dirtier as it rolls downhill.
Right on!!!! Sounds like this Ramos kid lived with his grandparents, his grandfather was a felon that did not want the guns in the house the kid had.
As someone mentioned up thread. These weren’t your standard AR-15’s. The kid bought two Cadillac rifles (Danial Defense) costing over 2 G’s apiece. Why two? Why such expensive models when a standard $600 AR would do? Where did he get all the cash? Some things never seem to make sense. Just like the Vegas nutjob in ’17. Things never made sense there either and that story disappeared real quick.
Maybe he shot a motherfucker or two to get the cash? Generally speaking, if you’re planning on killing some motherfuckers and probably goin’ out yourself in the process, I’m think making sense while you do it is not high on your list of priorities.
I read he used Stimmy cash. Not the first dude who blew his stimulus check on firearms.
Ahh, the stimmy cash! Is that still a thing? I’ve got plenty right now, but who couldn’t use some stimmy love?
What’s your excuse? Dad in mom’s panties again?
Its being reported this whacko actually was into the occult so there it is.
Satan told him to do it.
Satan’ll do that kind of shit! No sense of humor whatsoever!
“ Government, any government, is evil by nature. It, by its nature, encroaches on individual freedom. Socialism, in its various forms, or Capitalism, in its various forms, tear away at the liberty of their respective peoples.”
The Kingdom of God is a form of government, not a religion. It promotes christian liberty as opposed to freedom [ license ].
Many agree with you that it is evil to limit people’s freedoms. But “evil” is also subjective. Some would call tornados and hurricanes evil. Others profit from the destruction, and of course this is called evil.
Deciding [ knowing ] right and wrong [ for ourselves or others ] is what got us here. We must stop worshipping [ or being ] false gods [ rulemakers ].
Islam has exactly the same argument. You don’t have to convert (oh sure!) but man has an intrinsic right to Divine Government. And that means Islam (the last and the greatest revelation) must conquer all nations and culture to liberal Mankind. Individuals can then decide whether to be full fledged citizens or dhimmis who have very few rights.
They are a bit more open minded than you, admitting that there were other revelations of God. Of course they become corrupted in the fullness of time. Otherwise they be exactly like Islam in every way! Every child is born a spiritual Muslim…..
Islam today reminds me of the Roman Catholic Church in medieval times. Power and control of the populace was agenda number one. Religion is just another tool for the Power folks.
Everything is good for a Muslim, unless they disagree with the Religious elite. Watch out then. Inquisition anyone?
The last revelation by a Power freak to make people kowtow.
Millions died for their little religious corner of the world throughout history.
Shia Sunni, Catholic Protestant, Hindu Muslim
The really amazing thing is that over and over these religious power freaks are able to lead the lemmings to their deaths.
“(the last and the greatest revelation)” is an opinion.
“They are a bit more open minded than you, admitting that there were other revelations of God.”
Two things – “There is no other name given among men whereby we must be saved.” I didn’t say it. If I’m “close minded” so is He.
“other revelations” [ie: outside the bible ] are not denied. But all revelation must be sifted through the Word to “try the spirits whether they be of God”.
So you think He speaks directly and the apostles and prophets just copied what He was saying, in so many words?
Islam believes the same. Allah told Gabriel, Gabriel told Mohammad, and Mohammad told others who wrote it down.
So says Mohammad.
“The penalty of hand amputation for theft under Islamic law is a “Had” (a God-prescribed punishment) which is intended to be a particularly stern deterrent. As a Had, the penalty is absolute and cannot be negotiated, altered, or forgiven as long as rigorous rules of evidence are met. A single confession is sufficient for conviction.”
Now compare:
“If anyone sins and commits a breach of faith against the Lord by deceiving his neighbor in a matter of deposit or security, or through robbery, or if he has oppressed his neighbor or has found something lost and lied about it, swearing falsely—in any of all the things that people do and sin thereby— if he has sinned and has realized his guilt and will restore what he took by robbery or what he got by oppression or the deposit that was committed to him or the lost thing that he found or anything about which he has sworn falsely, he shall restore it in full and shall add a fifth to it, and give it to him to whom it belongs on the day he realizes his guilt.”
Man’s laws a based on punishment. God’s are based on restoration.
God does not contradict Himself. If there is a contradiction it must be the source or the messenger.
I was out running errands this morning, and I have to say, these elevated gasoline prices ($4.59 per gallon) don’t seem to be curbing anybody’s ability or desire to be out driving around on the roads — they were crowded. I know it’s just anecdotal, the truth is in the amount of gallons of gasoline sold and all that, but still …
Yes, the real trouble starts, not with the price, but with the availability. The price change is just factored into the price of everything else. Not being able to get the stuff is an entirely different ball game.
Remember the 70s? People sniffed at >12% interest rates and consequent inflation. Why? The wages were keeping up, and job availability existed. Never enough to keep up and that erosion is what destroys inflation economies.
Which by the way is the main platform of the Democrats.
Yeah I tend to think that is true brh. I went to an appointment this morning and I noticed that there were a lot of people out and about for like 10 am. It’s a really really pretty day here too. But like for instance I’m still driving and everything but I budget my trips. And so now some people are just not really drive worthy anymore lol. Like I’m not driving all the way out there because you are just too far away now cash wise
$ 6-7 in Los Angeles.
LA leads the way.
$10 in bev hills now.
People in L.A. are still driving 80 MPH on the freeway. Seems to be no concern about driving slower to conserve gas.
Quick rant, ‘Murican style. Forgive me if this takes my viewpoint out of your normal comfort zone.
People have always gone crazy and shot up a room since the invention of the firearm. There are endless news stories from the 1700s ,1800s, 1900s and today is no different.
This is nothing new. Granted, there are a lot more people now, and a lot more guns, and video games and movies teaching kids how fun it might be to shoot up a room, and kids are increasingly being groomed to suffer from depression and suck. Cast your blaming eyes there.
The massive tragedy in TX is just that, a massive tragedy. But it’s the fault of THAT guy. That one guy. Well, and probably his parents, to some extent, we shall see. The ad nauseum instant blame turn toward the gun is obnoxious. Wasn’t it lefties who were the largest first-time gun buyers ever during the pandemic? And now they wanna pretend they can make it all better? Ten bucks they aren’t giving up their new shitty Taurus .38 that they thought looked big and cool when they were feeling scared after George Floyd (while putting a BLM placard in their window to disingenuously attempt to ward off bad vibes from the mobs of random marauders who may or may not care about anything they pretend to care about anyway). But yes, let’s hear about “those damn righties and their never-ending indifference to life and their assault on children”….please.
Am I heartless? Not by a longshot. But I’m realistic, ,and I do appreciate the freedom we have to do stupid things. 99% of us choose to try to do smart things, good things…so the existence of the other 1% is part of the gamble of walking outside the door each day.
In disarmed Japan they have mass stabbings in schools…rare, but true. Some people are just crazy, and there will always be some of them out there.
Point – We cannot legislate crazy, evil acts of violence from the genepool. Every time we get in a car we’re taking our lives into our hands. Every time we walk into a store, who knows what crazy bastard is already in there with a knife and a death wish. This is the scary reality of life. It is NOT changeable.
If progressives want to change things, how about enforce the damn laws already on the books instead of letting “known crazy persons” back on the street 24 hours after an assault that should put them in jail for years. Jackasses, all.
Anyway, a little pessimism to put things into perspective. “Progressives” – there ain’t no solving this outside of you doing the very things you’re claiming to try to stop. Accept our human fallibility and don’t try to pretend you can change it. You can’t. At least not without force, which is supposedly anathema to all you claim to champion.
Also, fuck “Beta O’Rourke”. What a showboating, lying litte pencil-necked ninny.
Yes, if it were my boy’s school…I can’t even imagine. I get it. But I would blame the POS that did it (and likely go to prison if I ever got a chance to be in his presence to reciprocate)…I wouoldn’t try to take my neighbor’s gun who just wants to protect his family from the same evil bastards who decide to do such a thing to innocents.
And grab some .30-06 while you can, Walmart is fairly well stocked at the moment for some reason.
George Floyd – two years crime free.
And drug free.
And his family is now rich (and probably fighting amongst themselves over the remaining dollars).
No, that George Floyd schwag won’t last long; quite possibly a good chunk of it is already blown. I was reading about the Freddie Gray settlement in Baltimore in 2015, I think it was $5 million. The family was full of criminals and addicts. The writer noted unmaintained McMansions, surrounded by uncut lawns, with Cadillacs up on cement blocks in the driveway. Strippers, drugs, booze, new cars, bailbond, attorneys fees, court fines — a few years of that and it’s back to general assistance.
Much like the BLM donations that poured in by the millions due to White guilt, which were then squandered by the BLM organizers on a mansion and other personal luxuries. Yes, these people have no scruples and are just as terrible as the Democrats they put into office.
:Strippers, drugs, booze, new cars,…”
BRH,
Sounds like the American dream…where do I sign up?
On a much more positive note, the computer repairman who turned in Hunter Biden’s laptop is taking the people who destroyed his life to court. The Daily Beast already settled out of court. I wonder what Crazy Eyes will do?
what did the young, church going black woman lose? due to her thug?
LAMAR COST HER 21 million of her millions and she has a very handicapped child.
>>>>
Pastor Kevin Matthews out of North Carolina is making the news in a big way for allegedly suing Marie Holmes, the woman from North Carolina who won $188 million in the Powerball lottery. Holmes has experienced a bunch of controversy since first winning the Powerball lottery and professing that she would pay her tithes first and foremost on Holmes’ $188 million winnings, as reported by The Inquisitr.
After winning the North Carolina Education Lottery, Holmes was a woman of interest in the news, because Marie is a single mother of four children — one of whom has cerebral palsy. Holmes worked multiple jobs to take care of her children, and by becoming a Powerball jackpot winner, plenty assumed that Marie’s troubles would be over
I forgot to mention bling. Gold Chains, rings, bracelets, expensive sneakers etc.
And loads of Hennessey Cognac too.
LOL you are so bad
Uvalde’s damn near in Mexico anyway, so I’d just write this one off to some crazy Mexican shit. What are they gonna do in response? Pop out a few more or call up the relatives across the river and say, hey, we’ve got room for a few more now, come on over! At least the funeral home will have an uptick in business now for a few weeks.
Lots of kids killed in Mexico, a consequence of the Narco-Terror wars.
Mexico has a complete gun ban yet hundreds of thousands of people have been murdered with guns.
Guess them gun bans dont really work after all.
Stock up on guns now, get more than you will ever need, because once they are all banned you can sell them on the black-market for upwards of a 1000% profit. I hear the Afghani rebels have a lot of old American firepower they are selling on the cheap.
Mexico, 126 million people. One gun store in the whole country. Murder rate in Mexico 219/ 1 million people. USA murders 42/ 1 million people. Mexico murder rate 5 times higher. But they don’t have guns, so there’s that
Anyone screeching for gun reform is clueless. The problem isn’t guns; if anything, it’s our insane society that is gaslighting people until they go bonkers.
Narcissism and psychopathy are rewarded in our culture; then, we clutch the pearls when someone goes overboard.
I think too many people also understand this, which is why the Dems haven’t gotten anywhere with their gun control nonsense.
They’ve also missed the plot: More guns are sold every time there is a mass shooting.
.30-06, one wonders why it was ever abandoned to begin with.
Well, in the USA the trend thruout the decades and centuries has been smaller and smaller rifle calibers, from .69 cal. in the Revolutionary War period to .58 cal. in the Civil War, .45/70 cal post Civil War, then 30-40 Krag in the 1890s, 30-03 for a few years, and in 1906 the .30-06 for the Springfield 03. The Army kept the same .30-06 round when the Garand was adopted in 1937 and the M14 in 1957. Finally about in 1964 it was the .223, which has been with us for nearly 60 years. However, I read in the past few weeks that the 250 year trend is being reversed and a larger bullet has been developed, something like a 6.5 mm, maybe similar to the .270 Winchester, a hunting round invented in the 1920s. The ballistics appear quite similar. What’s old is new again.
A stout rifle cartridge if there ever was one…
“.30-06, one wonders why it was ever abandoned to begin with.”
BRH,
Logistics.
E., do you mean the .30-06 was too heavy to transport and carry?
BRH,
Yes, among other reasons. The concept of warfare changes.
Jim, I think you should run–not walk–with the Amish school idea. Then, immediately, take it public and keep 99% of the shares–a Bezos kind of manipulation–and get that stock price up there far enough to buy a couple of states with prime farmland and no snow. I don’t like snow. Hell, buy Puerto Rico. Built-in labor supply. And put up a big wall so the hurricanes don’t destroy you investment.
A couple movies come to mind that are probably utterly irrelevant: No Way Out and Witness.
So I won’t say any more about them.
I want to know if the Amish can help me fix the radiator on my Volvo. They want $2300 dollars to plug the leak. Fuck it, man. I’m goin’ to store and buyin’ some gum…
I think we’re fucked.
$2300 for a radiator repair? That’s a clock-stopper. Sure we ain’t talking about a Bugatti Veyron, with half a dozen heat exchangers stuck all over the place?
Big ouch. Shop around.
Well, promises from our betters;
The Situational Awareness reportage today provides;
SCHUMER PLEDGES GUN CONTROL IN TERROR BILL: Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said the Senate would consider amendments to domestic terror legislation to bring about stricter gun control rules. “Let me be clear. We are going to vote on gun legislation, and the Republicans could let us start doing that as soon as tomorrow…I repeat, though, we are going to vote on gun legislation. The American people are tired of moments of silence, tired of the kind words offering thoughts and prayers. We can use the domestic terrorism bill tomorrow to begin,” he said. – D.M.
On a personal note, I do not usually factor being victimized by terrorism in my daily routine…however, this oily, unctious son of a bitch terrorizes my waking moments. You would have difficulty sounding the depths of my disgust and horror at what he would be capable of doing.
I don’t like him.
Alot.
It’s all kerfuffle. I’m sure they keep these things ginned up for the occasion well ahead of time.
They’ve been working on doing this for years now. I suppose the opportunity is ripe.
Boy this sure does make one wonder about the timing of that shooting, doesn’t it?
These people are such absolute ghouls. There is no way that the 2 are not connected and that these people don’t KNOW it.
The passage of a gun control or prohibition bill would be the birth of the next black market, the next illicit trade.
Wonder how many ATF officers would be killed trying to enforce an idiocy like this?
Weird, never saw this before. Don’t know why this comment needs to “await moderation”.
Who would you rather see twist in the wind as the roaring 20s grind on?
A young, immature black woman VP who hasn’t grown up yet and relies heavily on handlers, or an old, white career politician ex-VP who should know better but at least had the guts to stick it to his boss?
I’ll go w/ Mike Pence for President in 2024. If nothing else, he has a bit of moxie.
I’ll take “None of the Above” for $400 Alex, and just skip the vote charade altogether. I have better tings to do with my time, like actually make a difference in my personal life.
Seconded. I think Pence is likely too vanilla to keep the masses stirred up, but who knows what they have in mind for 2024? Not that it will make any difference in the least anyway.
So you think that a go along do nothing Deep State shill is what we need to destroy the Deep State?
Not me!
Poor JAZ. Still laboring under the delusion that there’s hope, I see.
The lights are on …
Son of Warren G. Harding?
kbird – Have you considered the Hegelian Dialectic?
Problem
Reaction
Solution
Your demand for a solution shows where you are. Isn’t it convenient that a solution [ which *will* cause other problems ] has been provided?
Great thread from TLR over on Twatter that goes back to a brief exchange I had with Jarek a while back. This in a nutshell is what the Great Reset and everything we are experiencing in that context is all about …
“(1) Fascism was traditionally defined as an authoritarian govt working hand-in-glove with corporations to achieve objectives. A centralized autocratic govt headed by a dictatorial leader, using severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition […]
(4) The WEF was organized for multinational corporations to assemble and tell the various governments how to cooperate with them, in order to be rewarded by them. Corporatism was/is the outcome.
[…]
(6) Fascism, the cooperation between government and corporations, is still the underlying premise; the World Economic Forum simply flipped the internal dynamic putting the corporations in charge of handing out the instructions.”
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1498812036553359371
Also worth mentioning is that this aligns closely with Wolin’s “inverted totalitarianism.”
An excellent and recent piece from UK-based Winter Oak Press covering the subject of the GR and reemergence of corpratism/fascism. This is the same outfit that did the excellent extended piece on WEF that I posted here way back in 2020.
“Schwab described the WEF as “the international organization for public-private co-operation”.
hitler2This corportatist arrangement, which openly puts the machineries of the state at the disposal of private business and finance, was the economic model for the 20th century Fascist and Nazi regimes.
The subtitle for this year’s Davos theme was “Government Policies and Business Strategies”, but the WEF could have replaced the “and” with a simple “/”, because in their “stakeholder” model the two are exactly the same thing!
Schwab explicitly cited “low growth” as a major problem today, by which he means that his “business partners” are not making as much profit as they would like to.
But never fear! The hand of destiny is reaching down in the form of various “crises” which will enable the government side of the collaboration to bail out their private Davos chums without gullible TV-watching citizens being any the wiser.”
https://winteroak.org.uk/2022/05/26/the-acorn-74/
Yes, the Great Reset is essentially 21st century corporate downsizing with higher stakes. Imagine humanity organized in an HR organizational model. The organization is allotted so many positions or slots (.5~1B globally?). Once those slots are filled there is no place for any overflow and the rest must be eliminated. That works doubly well for management, in that eliminating superfluous factors of production (less a small ready reserve) is of course more efficient and profitable, but additionally, the existing factors know damn well what’s in store for them should they fuck up and lose their slot. But of course, managers hold slots as well, so the same goes for them.
Dis
You are describing the next step up in the advance of the Economies of Scale model.
JHK warned us of this in 2005, talking about entropy and the threat of too big to fail institutions.
The WEF is a power grab by a bunch of egomaniacal narcissists daring the world to stop their power grab.
One thing, if they succeed, where do they go next, for their next power grab, Mars?
In the history of mankind, only one thing has stopped the advance of megalomaniacs like this,
War.
Or maybe James Bond!
Against whom?
I think that what they want is CCP fascism, the state ordering the corporations to produce what the state wants. The people have little input. Supply and demand curves are superfluous.
Klaus Schwab has already acknowledged that Xi and the CCP is the model to follow for the Great Reset. With himself and his cronies in charge of course.
For the world to recover from the damage from the plutocrats, they must be eliminated.
War!
Or James Bond.
You’ve got it upside down, as usual, JAZ. The corporations want what remains of “the state” to produce and demand consumption of what THEY demand.
The plutocrats ain’t going nowhere, but rest assured, YOU ARE.
The objectives are different. In Fascism, the State leads the Private sector for the good of the Nation.
In Plutocracy, the Private Sector leads the Public sector for the good of the shareholders, or now in its ultimate form, the stake holders.
Little children see their parents having sex and thing daddy is hurting mommy. They can’t tell the different between making love and fighting. This is the level of your error.
Or say you and your wife are dancing a couple’s dance. Does it make a difference if she leads? Of course, right?
Why am I the only one getting ‘Your comment is awaiting moderation’ stuck at the end of my posts?!
Trouble is brewing in Pakistan too; Civil War is a real possibility. The tons of ordnance and weaponry left behind by the USA in Afghanistan is fueling the instability. Pakistan has plenty of nukes and what’s at stake is who will control those nukes. Suddenly, it’s all about the nukes, like its 1962 — what a surprise, huh?
Hey! The Pakis need to defend themselves too. A couple nuclear firecrackers more or less ain’t no big deal.
Consider that over 2000 nukes have been lit off on this planet since the latest iteration of mankind figured out how to make them.
What’s a couple more as long as they are not the super dirty soviet core cracker variety.
“The short temper and desire to control others are common among short men…
height is a really big deal to a lot of men…
Lots of jacked dudes/gym rat types are often short…
My brother is about 5’7? and… quite touchy about it…
Small-man syndrome is hilarious… I must admit that it is nice not being DeNiro tall…
I am 181 cm, 175 lbs., and look a lot like Ewan McGregor…” ~ Night Owl
“You’ve gone completely mental…” ~ MaryQueen
You might want to seek help if you’re still dwelling and ruminating on your short man’s complex, Shop.
Looks like you have that on in reverse, babycakes.
Ya gotta luv that mantra. ‘u^
Sorry, I don’t speak ‘imbecile.’
Can someone decipher?
“If recalled, some didn’t quite appreciate what I was on about, while others nodded in mock agreement and ‘we all had a good laugh’.” ~ Shoplet™
You like quoting yourself.
“Lots of jacked dudes/gym rat types are often short.”
— We used to call that the Mighty Mouse Syndrome.
“I have come to save the day.”
I once asked, some time ago, while on my bike at the curb, a group of so-categorized, ‘jacked dudes/gym rat types’ of various shapes, sizes and heights who were gathered immediately outside their gym if, once they were done (‘jacking up’), they were going to then go out and maybe use their new-found strength to volunteer and, say, help the less fortunate build some houses for them or something, or volunteer overseas in so-called developing countries to help build proper sanitation systems or whatever.
If recalled, some didn’t quite appreciate what I was on about, while others nodded in mock agreement and ‘we all had a good laugh’.
Shoplet [TM], I have lived in what is politely known as “developing countries” over half my life, in Asia and Latinoamerica. The sort of altruistic volunteering you refer to is generally regarded cynically by locals, whose immediate and obsessive concern is survival and self-defense.
“He must have an angle.” “He’s getting money from his church / government / NGO on the sly.”
A case study: students from the Korean School in Jakarta were rounded up and sent on a mission to clean garbage from a beach in Java. It’s a monumental task as unbelievable quantities of plastic, fishing nets and other detritus wash ashore.
In this case, the locals watched the Korean kids working away with puzzled amusement. They would love to have tourist money flooding in, and if informed that the tourists won’t come if the beach is filthy simply shrug and toss another immortal BOPP candy wrapper over their shoulder. That piece of high-tech film packaging will be around for the foreseeable future.
One old pal of mine organizes these beach-cleaning drives in a really lovely part of West Sumatra. He does have a stake in restoring beaches to pristine condition as he runs a modest surfing hotel, catering mostly to foreigners.
The beach clean-up, dragooning local high-school students, may work once or twice. But people on the bottom of the economic scale won’t dedicate that much time to it. They are more intent on keeping the rain out of their homes or making a payment on their cell phone.
You can in fact turn in a large volume of plastic (PET mostly) to a recycler but the dough you get for it is pitiful, unless that is your only path to buying food for hungry toddlers. The people I see every day do not make the connection.
Corporations are being strong-armed by the authorities to pursue “environmental goals” and they do put money into such efforts. Education of local residents may be working, very gradually, so the situation is not hopeless.
Google-Image up “surfing / garbage / seas / bali” to see how bad the situation is in a place that depends on jetloads of foreign visitors for its very survival.
Excellent observations. That said, we’re ALL pretty much addicted to the corporate lifestyle now, so the idea of suddenly ditching it now is pretty foolish, to say the last. Just not gonna happen.
Like it or not, it’s the world we live in now. Not going back anytime soon.
“Ya sure, Putin the ‘leader-cum-alpha-male’ in a remote pissing-match with the “Biden” Leader (to quote our cute-and-cuddly JHK), Leading people he doesn’t know (and vice-versa) to their deaths from Behind his desk and Behind a battery of display screens, dressed in a suit and tie. Cuz humans are like wolf packs don’t ya know.
Ron Anselmo commenting from flatland.” ~ The Man They Call Zazelle April 24, 2022 at 4:29 am (AKA Shoplet™)
Still can’t spell “yeah,” after being told how to do it.
Here’s a virtual lollipop. Now run along and play with some Millennials.
You can’t spell “yeah.” And how old are you? How’d you manage to avoid learning that word your entire life?
A little too high-brow for this bunch. They tend to prefer direct brutal honesty. Referential sarcasm goes right over their heads.
High-brow?
LOL.
Sarcasm is usually obvious and funny.
In times like these I’ve found that alcohol and music combined in the proper amounts with some sort of joint cultural meaning to be somewhat therapeutic for members of the species.
In this case, I’m proposing a two-fer of a decidedly upper crust English band of decidedly Anglo-Saxon derivation who managed to speak to my decidedly mediocre mind several decades back and somehow continue to do so to this day. In the first case, a simple working man’s melody and lyrical observation of life’s facts that would seem to be undeniable; the second, perhaps a more profound commentary on life in general here in what are the early days of the 21st century with a guitar solo kicker at the end that’s not to be dismissed. They seem to have some staying power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84Tq-eAJIk4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTseTg48568
Thanks, enjoyable!
A little late in the thread, I know …
On CNBC “Biden to ship long range missiles to Ukraine”
How long range, seeing as how the border is merely a few hundred miles from Moscow? Once those ‘long range missiles’ begin slamming into the Kremlin, this Special Military Operation may be ramped up a bit. The story was that the Russian Army was driven back from Kiev by stalwart Ukrainian defenders; the truth is Russia never attempted to enter Kiev, and could have leveled the Capital City with artillery and airpower if it so desired. If American made missiles hit Moscow the retribution could be monumental.
Finally today articles in Wapo and on the CNN website are telling the truth about the condition of Ukraine’s army in the east, which is that it is totally demoralized and defeated.