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       Understand: no amount of political blustering will bring this gaslit nation into daylight when there is no more money and no more credit and no feasible way to feed the blob that ate our government. The equation is simple. Our country can’t handle normal interest rates; and the value of the dollar can’t withstand more ultra-low interest rates. Someone, please, ask Congress to stop screwing that pooch over there!

     Oh, and that “can” we’ve been kicking down the road turns out to be a rusty old 50-gallon drum. Somebody has stuffed America into it and is fixing to drop us overboard beyond the continental shelf off the Jersey Shore. Can that be stopped, too?

    So, here at week’s end we see these two rather momentous issues juxtaposed: the battle over how to finance that blob-infested monster in DC; and the battle to expose the crimes of a real-life Manchurian Candidate president. Neither battle is going all that well for the minority of citizens who want to live in a pro-reality society. If we follow the fiscal trend, all the tax revenue we can grudge up will barely cover the annual interest on our $30+trillion debt. If we can’t boot out the brain-dead cat’s paw in the White House, then say goodbye to the rule of law and liberty with it.

     The people we elect to Congress don’t want to be accountable for specifically authorizing spending on the blob’s multitudinous pet projects. So, they depend on multi-thousand-page omnibus bills nobody can ever scrutinize, and continuing resolution dodges to postpone any necessarily painful action on a budget. Therefore, a dissenting coterie in the House proposes to play hard-ball over de-funding the blob, that is, a government shutdown of unknown duration, until gaslight is replaced by sunlight. The blob itself sends out a frantic S.O.S. Don’t let these white supremacist, “far-right” MAGA nut-jobs drag us out of the comfortable warm, moist darkness we thrive in — perfect conditions for continued blob growth!

    After all, these Congresspersons have their lobbyist-donors to answer to, and they’d better come up with the right answer — or else their chance of eventually retiring as multi-millionaires, like Nancy Pelosi did, might slip away. Of course, the joke would be on them (and the rest of us) if it eventually costs a million dollars for a slice of pizza when they try to cash-out. Or is there some dirty secret involved here — for instance, that the blob has also taken over whatever remained of the US economy, too. So that defunding the blob also blows a hole in that putative economy? Or maybe not. Maybe the regular economy can breathe a little again with the blob’s boot off its neck. Let’s go ahead and shut off the flow for a week or two, see what happens.

     I imagine some of you took in the opening of House Oversight’s impeachment inquiry, or at least enjoyed a few choice tidbits on Web video. Chairman Comer (R-KY) tried to proceed gingerly, so as to not appear vicious, and called onstage three witnesses to establish an upright basis for the exercise. Alas, they were led by the earnest but equivocating GWU law professor Jonathan Turley, straining so hard to be above reproach that he seemed to levitate out of his seat. The Democrat minority were allowed to invite their own shill, one Michael J. Gerhardt, a law prof from North Carolina, who was there to make the gaslight flicker, and sho’nuff did.

     Ranking (minority) Member Jamie Raskin immediately tried to distract the proceeding with a call to subpoena Rudy Giuliani — supposedly to impugn the process. The majority briskly tabled Raskin’s motion. The old trouper has been worked over pretty severely by a lawless DOJ the past three years, had his client correspondence stolen by the FBI, his law license suspended by a malign New York Bar Association… but don’t forget he is an experienced and resourceful federal prosecutor himself. He spent many months beating the thickets of corruption in Ukraine for then-President Trump, and certainly knows more about what went on in that grubby money laundry than practically anyone. Bring him on. I’d like to see ol’ Rudy joust with the likes of Cori Bush (D-MO) , AOC (D-NY), and Kweisi Mfume (D-MD).

      The New York Times pushed the leitmotif of their narrative this morning: there’s no evidence that “Joe Biden” committed any impeachable offenses.

     That wasn’t the point of Mr. Comer’s opening exercise, which did not include what are called “fact witnesses” — exactly what The New York Times pretended to not understand. The point was to open this ugly business delicately, with some decorum. It will be interesting to see how long the news media can keep pretending there’s nothing to see in the Biden family’s global business doings when a firehose of evidence is turned on them. You can be sure the committee is sitting on some items we have not heard about.

     There’s reason to be discouraged that the people we elect can bring the two great issues of the moment — the blob’s budget and the impeachment of “Joe Biden” — to satisfactory conclusions. They are arguably pseudopods of that very blob, whose very existence is being threatened now, and they have to worry about their shots at becoming multi-millionaires, too. The weeks ahead will inform us if there’s anything that can be salvaged of our federal government or whether we must make other arrangements.

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886 Responses to “Two-Punch”

  1. Mac September 29, 2023 at 9:42 am #

    The from page of our local paper has Raskin and a clock counting down to shutdown. This inquiry seems to be very poorly time, perhaps purposely.

  2. Wizard of the Saddle September 29, 2023 at 9:43 am #

    In the bitter end only partition or secession will end this national nightmare. It’s time to end the federal government and allow the states to make new arrangements amongst themselves.

    • Phineas September 29, 2023 at 10:01 am #


      Secession will be the only way forward after the DS steels the next election.

    • megabeth September 29, 2023 at 11:54 am #

      I agree. This sprawling, bloated ex-republic can not redux itself. Amputation of some sort is needed.

    • elysianfield September 29, 2023 at 12:06 pm #


      This from the Situational Awareness site this AM:

      Understanding the information security environment in 2024 is as important as understanding the physical security environment. Tools initially developed for the Global War on Terror continue to mature and have turned inward. This is due to a shift in thinking and policy making at the strategic level, moving on from international terrorists to domestic political dissidents as America’s primary enemies. New artificial intelligence (AI) tools available to both the Biden administration and social media platforms will enable the targeting of “malinformation” to expand beyond 2020 and 2022 when, as determined in federal court, federal agencies targeted political speech in violation of the First Amendment. We could see indiscriminate targeting and infringements of the First Amendment as we head into the 2024 election season. – R.C.

      Calling for secession? Alexa sez “10001100011000001010100000!”

      You gonna get it now….

      • BackRowHeckler September 29, 2023 at 12:48 pm #

        Anyway, illegals crossing the border are eligible for $2000 per month payments; who is going to pay that?

        • Anon1970 September 29, 2023 at 6:37 pm #

          The same taxpayers that will be paying for the expenses related to raising the unwanted babies born in the country’s red state ghettos.

    • Creekwood September 29, 2023 at 1:33 pm #

      Agree. The federal government must die.

    • PeteAtomic September 29, 2023 at 3:13 pm #

      “It’s time to end the federal government and allow the states to make new arrangements amongst themselves.”


      It will occur organically, similar to when the Western Roman Empire (or Alexander’s Greek Empire, for another example) fell apart in the 400s. Successor states & kingdoms arose to assert/re-assert themselves for power & control.

    • Chris September 29, 2023 at 9:25 pm #

      Just over 122 years ago a great four-year internal U.S. war was fought—The War Between The States… erroneously called the Civil War. It was caused by a major economic dispute: Would slavery be allowed in the new territories? an economic matter over which the Northern and Southern states were in terminal disagreement.

      Are we now in terminal disagreement, again, sufficient, potentially, to launch another such war? Such as: present economics with annual federal incomes of $5T and expenditures of $7T causing ever-increasing national debt, and inflation and interest rates which are forcing the working middle class to the brink; with congressional stalemate between liberals and conservatives resolving nothing; with uncontrolled crime deliberately overlooked; with massive illegal immigration overwhelming cities; with $100+B funding a foreign proxy war when tragic U.S. disasters are being ignored; with the U.S. military seriously underfunded to face China’s rapid rise and instead is focused on “Woke-ism” causing serious recruitment shortfalls; with schools teaching CRT and sexually explicit instruction to children and allowing gender transition without parental knowledge; with welfare payments to non-workers and illegal immigrants seemingly rising without limit; with enforced energy policy and endless regulations forcing a “Green” agenda despite consumers’ distaste, for example, for electric vehicles (EVs) and many other edicts…

      The West and East coastal areas or “blue” states are in disarray, while the center of the country or largely “red”states are busy at or ready to go to work with capitalism creating a better future for all.

      What do all who may see the above think? Perhaps I’ve missed something, no doubt, like attacks on our First Amendment rights and the liberal militarization of the DOJ including the FBI, and the CIA, and the unreliability of our voting (and counting) systems.

      • Chris September 29, 2023 at 9:31 pm #

        Oops! Make that “162 years.”

  3. NickelthroweR September 29, 2023 at 9:44 am #

    The Uniparty isn’t going to impeach one of their own when everyone sitting in “judgment” has done the same or worse.

    Haven’t you guys noticed that all these members of Congress are multimillionaires? How did they accomplish that on their puny salary?

    • Creekwood September 29, 2023 at 1:38 pm #

      Kabuki theater. Withdraw and resist. As someone on this site put it last week, “Work alone, tell no one.”

      • Ron Anselmo September 29, 2023 at 2:00 pm #

        “Work alone, tell no one.” ~ Paula D

      • Night Owl September 29, 2023 at 4:08 pm #

        You aren’t going to last long alone.

        • Ron Anselmo September 30, 2023 at 12:20 am #

          Owl – for operational security, in asymmetric engagements, some operators are tasked with a solitary mission or missions.

          Only in a smaller sense are they “working alone”, and only for a short time. In and out.

          • Night Owl September 30, 2023 at 3:08 pm #

            Yes, that is different. Gotcha.

    • workingclasshero September 29, 2023 at 2:25 pm #

      Anne Coulter points out that allot of people are tired of the Biden corruption circus and don’t believe anything will come of it, and that the most popular thing to impeach Biden over is mass legal-illegal immigration at the southern border. I tend to agree. The Biden administration just does counter lawfare against Trump and the MSM eats it up and under reports the Biden corruption angle.

      The Republicans should be going all in on Immigration Moratorium, but they don’t want to look racist and piss off any imaginary so-called mass conversion of Hispanics to the Republicans.

      • Rowdypiglet September 29, 2023 at 3:42 pm #

        I too suspect that it’s theatre because they’d have had a sure case for impeachment in the border crisis. Failure to protect the border is treasonous, and there would be no way to defend against that accusation as they have poured across the border since the beginning of Biden’s reign. Instead, they have chosen to dive into the chaotic mess of Hunter Biden’s life, which they can drag out indefinitely.

    • Anon1970 September 29, 2023 at 6:43 pm #

      Jerrold Nadler is not even a millionaire.

      • Ron Anselmo September 29, 2023 at 11:41 pm #

        Could have fooled me. I thought the belt up around his armpits is to hold up his big fat wallet.

  4. megabeth September 29, 2023 at 9:45 am #

    This just in: DiFi has just died. Wonder if she’ll stay in the Senate.

    • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 10:19 am #

      That bitch been dead for years

      • Lyndy33 September 29, 2023 at 12:36 pm #

        She has also been a rather moderate voice in the screaming left Democratic Party. She was on her way out of influence anyway. RIP Diane. She was my age.

        • megabeth September 29, 2023 at 7:45 pm #

          She was okay, as Dems go. She was a holdout on scuttling the filibuster.

        • Grandpa September 29, 2023 at 8:24 pm #

          “moderate”, as her stand on gun control, Lyndy? Just curious.

        • Uncle Bob October 1, 2023 at 3:50 pm #

          Yeah, moderate. Saying “the dogma is strong with you” to Amy Coney Barrett over the slaughter of 64 million children, really moderate. Betcha I would be excoriated as a fascist for questioning DiFi about killing babies, especially minority babies, even though I’d be asking a fellow descendant of Abraham who claimed to defend the helpless about how her views didn’t echo those of Schickelgruber and the boys.

      • hmuller September 29, 2023 at 12:57 pm #

        If Fetterman can cast his Senate vote from a nuthouse, Feinstein can vote from the grave.

    • oldandtired September 29, 2023 at 10:24 am #

      She’s still gonna vote for Joe in ‘24!

      • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 10:32 am #

        Fortunately, she cast her mail-in vote before taking her last drool.

      • Uncle Bob October 1, 2023 at 3:52 pm #

        I’m sure my parents, both dead and Republican, will vote straight Democrat next year.

    • liber8tor September 29, 2023 at 11:25 am #

      Feinstein went to the Pearly Gates and they were locked. God left a note: “Closed..now GTFO”.

    • Wizard of the Saddle September 29, 2023 at 11:46 am #

      I don’t know…but she certainly will continue to faithfully vote Democrat in all future elections.

      • Lyndy33 September 29, 2023 at 12:37 pm #

        In the form of her black female replacement.

    • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 12:01 pm #

      Gavin Newsom has announced that he will pick a new member of the Senate, with two highly important qualifications.

      The one he picks has to be black and a woman. Sounds transphobic to me.

      Note that he has no standards concerning honesty, integrity, or intelligence.

      • DaveO907 September 29, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

        Adam Schiff fits his ‘no standards’ candidate profile perfectly. And is already running for her seat. I’d get some kinda grand chuckle if some electable black woman was appointed in the interim. To foil Schiff would be a “Make my Day!” for me and the world.

        • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 1:17 pm #

          Barbara Lee is running, but Newsom has already ruled her out.

          • DaveO907 September 29, 2023 at 1:28 pm #

            So, it’s Schiffty then. Vomitus maximus.

      • BackRowHeckler September 29, 2023 at 12:45 pm #

        Is Downtown Willie Brown still amongst the living?

        • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 1:17 pm #

          He’d have to put a dress on.

      • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 1:35 pm #

        It could be Kamala, to get her out of the way.

      • R Montanari September 29, 2023 at 2:26 pm #

        Who will explain to Newsome what a woman is?
        Will he have to hire a Republican consultant?

    • WadeWaters September 30, 2023 at 8:11 am #

      She’ll be voting in the 2024 election.

  5. BigJake September 29, 2023 at 9:49 am #



    • Islander September 29, 2023 at 10:15 am #

      Those -er/-or endings are a bitch!

      Maybe just reduce it to “dons.”

      • DaveO907 September 29, 2023 at 10:40 am #

        I like it: Dons who address their Congressional ‘lieutenants’ who are visited by the Three Letter ‘enforcers’ if they step out of line.

        “Please pass the vig pasta, paisan, capisce?”

    • James Howard Kunstler September 29, 2023 at 10:36 am #

      Thanks. Brain fart….

      • megabeth September 29, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

        Possibly a Freudian one. I know that I wish they were done.

  6. RaymondR September 29, 2023 at 9:50 am #

    Without significant reforms to reign in the donor class it is hard to see much of a future for the American political system. Americans will do fine, working around their corrupt government. The government system, however, will likely implode like that private submersible, from the unsustainable pressure of so much grift.

    • izzy September 29, 2023 at 10:18 am #

      Some Americans will do fine; quite few are already on the ropes. I hope I live long enough to see it resolved one way or another, and from a relatively safe place. Repairs will be tumultuous. Meanwhile, we(sic) continue to make more trouble and enemies around the globe.

    • DaveO907 September 29, 2023 at 11:05 am #

      A problem exists. Each of us is on the hook for $250,000 as of yesterday, it stares at us like a 50′ deep sinkhole in a 70 mph freeway on a dark rainy night.
      We—that’s USns—each owe this debt to the assorted nations of the world that ‘we’ via our elected representatives sucked into this con of all time.

      There is no conventional honorable ending to this thing thanks to our Congressional cheats and chiselers, from McConnell to the reeking-to-high-heaven all-time Queen of the Grifters, the most odious Pelosi.

      No honorable ending but for exercising our option for “whether we must make other arrangements.”

      • Lyndy33 September 29, 2023 at 12:53 pm #

        255,000 today!

      • Lyndy33 September 29, 2023 at 12:57 pm #

        Typically these things end in extreme inflation that James mentioned.

        • DaveO907 September 29, 2023 at 1:37 pm #

          Very true that. I’ve been doing my best to prepare for hyperinflation for going on 3 years now.
          Thanks for adding that updated figure. I knew it was going to be rising and was curious as to how much. Gulp!

      • Creekwood September 29, 2023 at 1:43 pm #

        We’re down to “other arrangements.”

      • R Montanari September 29, 2023 at 2:30 pm #

        No problem. Just give them our Congress persons; value them at what they themselves think they are worth.

      • Anon1970 September 29, 2023 at 6:48 pm #

        Who would have thought in 1913 that the German mark would be virtually worthless 10 years later?

    • Nick Reynolds September 29, 2023 at 11:39 am #

      One possible significant reform is to go back to secret voting in Congress. That’s the way things used to be. But in 1971, not only did the US go off the gold standard, it also reorganized Congress so that all votes are public. So, the big donors know how their donees voted. Naturally we now have donor capitalism, or donor control, a bought and paid for Congress. We should try returning to secret balloting in Congress.

      • Wizard of the Saddle September 29, 2023 at 11:52 am #

        Wow….I was not aware of this but of historical minutia.

        But it seems like a double-edged sword. Sure, then the Congress Critters could double-cross their donors….,but they could also double-cross their constituents. Not sure that this idea really solves the problem.

        The real solution is to amend the Constitution to bar donations by anyone but qualified and registered voters and limit said donations to no more than $100 per candidate.

        • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 12:04 pm #

          The big bucks go for lobbying, not campaign contributions.

          In the 70s, there were also fewer than 100 registered lobbyists.

          Now there are several for every Congress member.

          • DaveO907 September 29, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

            About 12 years ago I read a book by a renowned NYT D.C. beat reporter. So good I read it twicet. At the time there were 12,000 lobbyists for the 535. A few years later it was up to 14,000. Now? This many years later, I can only wonder at the count…

            Talk about a tapeworm frickin’ feeding frenzy!

          • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 3:40 pm #

            Thanks for the more precise numbers, Dave. I didn’t guess because I have a tendency to underestimate, partly because I don’t want to be accused of hyperbole, partly because I just can’t believe how bad it is.

            Like when I said a couple of hundred thousand Iraqi children died, and you pointed out it was actually half a million.
            I had apparently blocked out the number because it is so horrifying to realize the smug satisfaction our overlords get from mass murder.

          • Ron Anselmo September 30, 2023 at 12:33 am #

            Yes Paula – when Madeleine Albright was asked point blank in an interview, is she thought the death of 500,000 Iraqi children was worth it, her answer was yes. Hope there was a special place in Hell waiting for her.

        • R Montanari September 29, 2023 at 2:31 pm #

          And all donations can only come from the district in which they are running.

          • Rowdypiglet September 29, 2023 at 3:52 pm #

            @R Montanari, That would certainly and instantly alter the political landscape in Maine, where out of state interests interfere in and control pretty much everything, to the detriment of those who actually live here.

      • CyberPass October 2, 2023 at 12:22 am #

        Sunlight is the best disinfectant- the less Congress does in the shade, the better. The tobacco companies were horrified by the ban on TV cigarette ads: “Free speech! Free speech!” But in a rare concession to the public good, the ads were banned. If some brave Congressmen would apply the same logic and ban paid lobbyists, we might start to see some relief from what is in fact de facto fascism in the U.S.: the corporate control of government. These lobbyists not only are bribing Congress, they literally write the huge bills, like “”Affordable Healthcare.” (What a sick joke that title was.)

    • SangPur September 29, 2023 at 11:59 am #

      “Better to reign in Hell than to rule in Heaven”… eh, wot?

      But to express the concept of “restraint”, “reign in” may seem peripherally appropriate but, in fact, is just plain wrong. The correct expression is “rein in”.

      Think horses, not crowns.

      And, while I’m at it, Kings and Queens are not “coronated”… they’re “crowned”.

    • Why_weren't_we_asked_about_Degrowth September 29, 2023 at 12:04 pm #

      Remember according to the Supreme Court money is free speach.

      • CyberPass October 2, 2023 at 12:27 am #

        Which was a disgrace. An earlier and more enlightened Supreme Court upheld the ban on TV cigarette ads, which was by far a clearer argument for free speech by the tobacco companies. Money is power, and as Lord Acton wrote, “Absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

  7. mitchellc September 29, 2023 at 10:00 am #

    Jim, I noticed you stated at least twice “the people we elect”.

    What if our representative republic is merely a simulacrum, a fully functional, robust holgogram programmed to enduce complacency?

    Ah, the elite couldn’t be that clever, could they? LOL Shit, they’re so far ahead of the curve, they’ve looped back around pushing people from behind to get with the program.

    The thing is, the whole wonderful scheme, the entire private credit money system is/was completely dependent on perpetual, growth driven by endless energy surplus.

    They’ve always known the jig would be up at some point; it was just really difficult to determine, and as long as new reserves and resources were discovered, conquered, exploited, well, why worry?

    But it is just our luck to have been born in the era where the shit is getting real – the Western period if fading while a new power rises in the East.

    That’s the game, the entire kit & kaboodle – and these fuckers know full well. That’s why, like Nero, they’re burning it all down. What we’re watching is the actual lighting of the match.

    • messianicdruid September 29, 2023 at 11:19 am #

      And the blame will go to_______. [ mirror ]

      • messianicdruid September 29, 2023 at 11:26 am #


        At least that’s how some people feel.

        • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 11:33 am #

          Many people, perhaps rightly, do not like blame being assigned to a generational cohort.

          However, if we look at what “generation” was making the decisions that has squandered the promise of the “US”, one need only look at the name:

          “The Greatest Gneration”

          Of course with a name like that it has a lot to hide.
          Like Vietnam, killing Kennedy, creating the MIC, allwing the CIA to foment war, uprisings and coups.

          Opening up China. Shipping our unprecedented post WW2 manufacturing/industrial capacity over there…

          But let’s blame the boomers, they ran with it

          • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 11:34 am #


          • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

            Look to class, not age.

            Everyone here knows that we have no power as citizens, but many still go along with condemning their fellow citizens as a cohort, age, sex, race, or whatever.

            I condemn a cohort too, but I look at the 1% cohort who hold the power, not the 99% who are born into whatever certain decade, and simply go along with whatever living conditions were prevalent at the time.

          • Why_weren't_we_asked_about_Degrowth September 29, 2023 at 12:16 pm #

            I don’t think the average boomers decided to turn everything into a crazed financial perversion. Breaking up near every privately held company in a Wall Street, MBA, Corporate Raider mentality of the 1980’s and early 90’s. I don’t think they were onboard with sending 70% of our manufacturing jobs offshore in a thrilling race to the bottom.

            But they did get giddy about their stock shares, 401ks, SUVs, new fangled tech gadgets and McMansions.

          • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 12:33 pm #

            Correct Paula

            Did the white-collar midlle-managers really have a choice when the pensions were replaced by 401K’s?

            The blue-collar working stiffs?

            The average person never had a choice.
            Never has a choice.

            From retirement funding to plandemic forced vaccinations.

            They take away your candidates.
            They take away the voices and platforms of those exposing the truth.

            They’re even taking your right to bitch about your TOTAL lack of agency in a “democracy”.

            The frustrations born from powerlessness are the strongest constraint.

            A multiplier.

          • R Montanari September 29, 2023 at 2:36 pm #

            I believe “the Greatest Generation” refers to the generation that came of age in the 1930’s, fought and won WWII.
            The “Boomers” are their spoiled children ( disclosure, I was born in ’55!

          • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 2:45 pm #

            Yes, like JFK and those who murdered him.

            The people who rose to power under Ike, of silent generation, and turned foreign policy inro a wealth creation via violence racket.

            PTSD affected them differently.

          • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 2:51 pm #

            “Boomers” are those born during a “boom” in births. It’s actually a phenomenon cause by the fact that adult men were overseas for a period of time, not a generation.

            People who believe in Boomers and Gen Xers and so forth are actually believers in astrology.

            Astrology as in horoscopes, such as “born today, you are literally Hitler” for those born on April 20.

          • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 4:40 pm #

            It’s assigning blame to the cohort in power.

            The people of an era.

            There is no disputing that those in power in postwar America, the same credited for fighting the war, also squandered it and sent the U.S. on an ultimately destructive path

            The Romans believed in Saeculum, guilt or glory assigned to a lifetime of its people.
            The time before renewal.
            It’s not astrology. It’s accountability

          • SpeedyBB September 29, 2023 at 11:28 pm #

            Well here’s another fancy to entertain, AvatarBaby:

            “Who Shot J.F.K.?”

            “It was Johnny Roselli, for God’s sake,” [Richard] Gully said. “He was the head of the Hollywood underworld, Sam Giancana’s man.

            “Roselli was hiding in the grassy knoll.

            “Giancana was angry at J.F.K. because he failed to supply enough air cover for the Bay of Pigs—that was a failed attempt to recapture Cuba for the Mob.

            “When Castro kicked out the underworld, they lost millions. Meyer Lansky owned the biggest hotel in Cuba. Batista had been in their pocket. Kennedy’s death was all a matter of money.

            “I knew Roselli. He was well-known in Hollywood. Damned good-looking man.”

            Roselli’s “fatal mistake,” Gully said, was not that he testified in Washington about the Mob’s botched attempts on Castro’s life. Rather, his error was to boast—“though only to another member of the underworld—‘I was the guy who shot Kennedy.’ Roselli didn’t deserve to be bumped off.

            His body showed up, dismembered, in Florida.

            “But what matters more than who killed Kennedy is who could have prevented it. Hoover knew. Hoover loathed Kennedy.

            And one Texas oilman was tipped off. The Texan had complained about J.F.K., and he was told, ‘Just wait 24 hours.’

            “And that’s the true story. The Warren Commission was the most ludicrous thing in history.”

            [For those dwindling few wrinklies still keen on the subject]


          • WadeWaters September 30, 2023 at 8:23 am #

            The beginning of the end was creating the Federal Reserve.

            None of the financial shenanigans could have been foisted on

            us if we had sound money. No Viet Nam War. No black budgets.

            No trillions missing from the Pentagon. No billions for Ukraine.

            And no inflation which was the case before 1913 with the

            exception of the Civil War.

          • JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 11:50 am #

            According to George Giancana’s book, Sam’s brother, JFK was doomed by two things.

            1. One was the loss of Havana and the non response of the US government to Castro.

            2. Bigger was apparent back stab 0f the Italian mafia by RFK under JFK leadership. According to George, a deal was struck by JFK’s dad and Sam Giancana putting the end to a crime war to enable running JFK for president. RFK betrayed that pact.

            The CIA and FBI, wanting JFK gone over the mob wars and Cuba, and the Chicago mafia, pissed at JFK and RFK, simply made a deal.

            Then again in 1968.

            IMHO, it makes sense.

            Think about it today, the Mob now runs the CIA and FBI.

  8. dplainview September 29, 2023 at 10:04 am #

    re: Government Shutdown

    Q: As “We’re All in this Together,” what a better time for chanting: “Two Weeks to Flatten the Curve”?

  9. Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 10:06 am #

    I think the writers at the Times must get paid yuge bonuses every time they use some variation of “without evidence”

    • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

      Or “baseless” or ”unprovoked”.

      • Daddyotis September 29, 2023 at 1:55 pm #

        “Debunked” is my personal fave.

        Any time this term is used by the media (or any local Karen) about the veracity of a claim, one should automatically assume it is God’s truth.

        • megabeth September 29, 2023 at 7:50 pm #

          I like “rebunk.”

  10. Opie September 29, 2023 at 10:09 am #

    Fantastic summary today Jim. One thing I’ve noticed since the Covid daze is that everyone hates everybody else, even when the ones they turn against would normally view the other as potential allies. How we as a nation can come to grips with this when everyone else is to blame except the guy looking back at you in the mirror is beyond me. There’s going to be a reckoning, I recon.

    • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 10:28 am #

      Because the cowards like to punch down.
      Because the cowards know they’re no match for the people up top.
      Because the cowards are also fools and fall for every distraction, red herring, and scapegoat (usually poor people) thrown at them.

      Look! It’s a UAP/UFO spaceship with a trans-flag!

      • astera October 2, 2023 at 7:49 am #

        LOFL! you win the Internet today

    • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 10:35 am #

      “Everyone hates everybody else”. You got that right.

      I don’t know what that reckoning is going to look like.

      Did anybody at the Republican ‘debate’ talk seriously about any of these issues?

      • Uncle Bob September 29, 2023 at 11:39 am #

        Not that I heard. But a couple of them had a near-brawl over draperies. Just more evidence that the fix is in for 2024.

        • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 12:20 pm #


          That reminds me of a post I saw on Facebook, where someone asked what uproar was going on in various sub-groups that most people didn’t know existed.

          It turns out that the rock painting community was viciously fighting what finish to use, and the yarn community is arguing over the proper way to comb flax. Also, are hand sewn felt doll makers welcome in a cloth doll sewing group? Anthea might know about a perfume group in which someone claimed that a certain scent was hands down the ”best”, and the fight was on.

          Who knew?

          Final one. Someone in a curly hair group said that a poster claimed that white people can’t have curly hair, and it quickly turned into a race war.

          • DaveO907 September 29, 2023 at 1:46 pm #

            Ah yes, our national conversation…

          • Anthea September 30, 2023 at 2:24 pm #

            @ Paula D:

            I used to be a member of about a dozen Facebook groups on soapmaking, skincare, and herbalism, and another group called Rebel Canners. All of them were very good about keeping the nutjobs weeded out, but they still turned up once in awhile, until the admins whacked them. Quite a few of them were just crazies.

            I once mentioned in a soapmaking group that they used to teach you in middle-school science class that soap was the result of a chemical reaction between an acid and a base (lye and fatty acids). The reason I said this is because someone in a soapmaking group is always asking if you can make soap without lye. (You can’t.) One reason they think that, is because there are a lot of idiots selling soap that they claim is made without lye. Usually these are people who are using either melt-and-pour or pre-made bases.

            As a result of my comment, some woman sent me a long message railing hysterically at me about how mean I was to make fun of her because she was disabled and disadvantaged (and I guess didn’t know about acids and bases). But you also saw this type of thing occasionally in the comments. And every now and then, the admins would have to remind everyone that you would be removed from the group if you blocked the admins.

            I always thought that the main reason you run into this kind of thing is because about half the people in this country are on psychoactive drugs, and the other half is untreated. (Psychoactive drugs will do a number on you–in case you didn’t know.)

            Besides that issue, there is a fair-size percentage of people who are just plain feral. These are the people who, when you ask them to bring a side to your family’s Thanksgiving dinner and suggest carrots, show up with a bag of raw carrots. Or they bring their dog with them to visit the new baby and toss the filthy dog’s leash into the basinette. Or, when they are in orientation for their new job, they ask if they can take a month’s paid sick leave to have their wisdom teeth pulled. Or, when they move in with you (so you can help them out), they bring a dog that they adopted two days before moving in, and then they leave it with you when they move out. (I’ve got a million of these stories.)

            In Facebook groups, especially, there are a few Orwellian “party member” types. In soapmaking groups, the Brits are especially active in that way. In Great Britain, soap and other body-care products are VERY heavily regulated, so much so that innovation is somewhere between prohibitively costly and impossible, and there is a huge bar-to-entry, due to the expense. It really pisses them off that Americans are not thus afflicted, and when someone posts that they’ve added some sodium lactate or a quarternary cationic polymer or a half-teaspoon of mica to their lotion, they go into paroxysms of terror that they’re going to kill someone.

            The Rebel Canners group has a similar problem. Not every method or recipe for canning food has been USDA tested and approved–rather like the situation that applies to the safety and efficacy of herbs and supplements. So that group regularly gets comments of the, “You’re all gonna die!” type. The admins just kick them out of the group.

            There are a lot of nuts out there.

          • Paula D September 30, 2023 at 3:03 pm #

            Yes, Anthea, the other day my husband and I had a discussion about the nuts out there.

            It’s not that we never ran into them pre-social media, it’s that when they did their crazy/anti-social/nutty behavior or made nasty comments, we dismissed it as one-time behavior, or excused it as “They didn’t really mean that.”

            It’s only now, when people post their every thought online that we have realized “Holy shit! People really are batshit crazy!”

            That is one more reason I like social media. It’s best to know what you are up against.

          • Uncle Bob October 1, 2023 at 4:11 pm #

            Yup, draperies. The offenders were Nikki Haley and Tim Scott. Scott attacked his former benefactor over her supposed purchase of new draperies (evidently, it actually occurred under Obama), and she made an unkind response. It went from there. They were a table and a folding metal chair away from a pro wrestling match.

        • Jarek September 29, 2023 at 12:53 pm #

          Yet you want as much diversity as possible. Stable cultures don’t have revolutions and that is all you care about.

  11. mrjlc38 September 29, 2023 at 10:13 am #

    This is never going to end. That’s my dilemma now. How to adjust. The past three years has been nothing but “you just wait” “it’s all coming down”.
    No, it isn’t. You all have wasted so much time and effort convincing that end is nigh, that now that you are wrong, it’s back to political insight. Seriously, who gives a flying fuck anymore. Now we are even threatening that we can’t pay the interest. Horseshit. It’s horseshit every time. I’m setting myself against this. Show me a consequence from anything. One thing. You can’t, not even one. We blew up a superpowers largest output of natural resources and they did NOTHING in response. Absolutely nothing. Why,? Is Jesus fake too? Every God, every leader….”I’ll pay you on Tuesday for a cheeseburger today…or else”. Fuck all y’all….bring it or stfu

    • Uncle Bob September 29, 2023 at 11:52 am #

      Be careful what you wish for, because you might get it.

      Everything is on hold till the day after the 2024 election, which the American fascist party will sweep because the Republicans are a joke, many of them complicit in the Left’s fuckery. The Bible you mock refers to incredible misery for the righteous as society lurches forward in its God-hating “progress.” Punishment for the wicked doesn’t come until things are so unbearable, so vicious, that humanity is about to exterminate itself. We aren’t anywhere near that point. Indeed, we can’t get there until America completely completes its fall from the shining city on a hill to Babylon, Mother of Harlots and Abominations and lures the rest of the world into depravity.

      • messianicdruid September 29, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

        “Be careful what you wish for, because you might get it.”

        “For the thing which I greatly feared is come upon me, and that which I was afraid of is come unto me.”

        Instilled fear is productive.

        • Ron Anselmo September 29, 2023 at 1:56 pm #

          Druid – instilled or caught, fear is a disease. Disease is not productive. On the contrary, fear immobilizes.

          • Night Owl September 29, 2023 at 4:03 pm #

            As far as I can tell, fear was the only disease of significance over the past few years.

          • messianicdruid September 30, 2023 at 8:07 am #

            Well, I meant “productive” for those who wish to increase disease [ sickness ] and disease [ unease – fear ], not those who are manipulated by it.

          • Ron Anselmo September 30, 2023 at 12:31 pm #

            In that case, you are 100% correct. I misunderstood, not uncommon – low IQ.

          • messianicdruid October 1, 2023 at 10:32 am #

            More likely, my poor [ Lannik ] syntax.

      • Heartlander September 29, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

        “…until America completely completes its fall from the shining city on a hill to Babylon, Mother of Harlots and Abominations and lures the rest of the world into depravity.”

        All EXCEPT RUSSIA.

        Russia is “the last bastion of civilization against barbarism ,” in the words of Archbishop Carlo Vigano.
        May God preserve Russia, for the sake of all of us.

        • DaveO907 September 29, 2023 at 1:47 pm #


        • Billy Hill September 29, 2023 at 2:13 pm #

          Edgar Cayce prophesied that out of Russia would come the hope for the world.

          Cayce may be too Deep Woo for all the rationalist reductionists out there.

          Greer wrote an interesting post on “Enchantment” a few issues back that might help the rationalists open the door a crack.

          As Clif High says, consciousness does not emerge from a bunch of dirt thrown together.

        • Anthea September 30, 2023 at 4:24 pm #

          Edgar Cayce said that Russia was the hope of the world, or something to that effect.

          • Uncle Bob October 1, 2023 at 4:37 pm #

            Aleksandr Dugin, Putin’s advisor, pushes a version of traditionalism that sounds good: it appeals to the Judeo-Christian ethic and conventional morality. Dugin’s goal is to get America to self-destruct, and we’re going along with the plan because, as Bill Maher says, we are a silly people.

        • Uncle Bob October 1, 2023 at 4:22 pm #

          Russia, or Gog, is prophecied to lead the armies of Persia, Turkey, and other Islamic nations against Israel — possibly as payment for Iranian troops used in Ukraine, at least in part. Unfortunately for the invaders, Michael is sent to Earth to defend Israel, and obliterates Russia. Still a better fate than America’s end, though (Rev. 17 and 18).

    • Anthea September 30, 2023 at 3:23 pm #

      @ mrjlc38:

      We’re living through the end of an empire. In ancient Rome, this crap went on for centuries–though that seems unlikely in the case of the US. Either way, it’s an age-old story, and it can’t be fixed.

      At the personal level, this means–at least in my opinion–that you must do two things. One of them is to, insofar as possible, disengage from the larger society. Plenty of other people have talked about all the different ways to do that, so I won’t expend any more oxygen on the subect. The second thing to do is to simply find your satisfactions elsewhere: friends, family, nature, rewarding work, creative activities, simple pleasures. There could be many fat years ahead, to be spent searching for which type of wine you should serve with the bruschetta, where to plant the Pretoria Cannas, and what you’re going to do with a bumper crop of eggplant.

      Be very, very good, because, as one of my friends put it, when we were viewing the incorrupt body of Mother Cabrini, up by the Cloisters, “So you see, Michael, if you’re very, very good, they’ll cut off your foot and send it to Rome.”

      Honestly, I’d say to just turn your back on the whole mess–while keeping your eyes open to both threats and opportunities. And hope that your best opportunity isn’t living in a cave the the Ozark Mountains and wearing a loincloth.

      • Uncle Bob October 1, 2023 at 5:27 pm #

        Or the Endless Mountains of northern Pennsylvania.

  12. Freddie September 29, 2023 at 10:22 am #

    Rudy Giuliani is a thin reed indeed to lean upon.
    He’s pouring down the Scotch by the tumblerful as we speak, for sure.

    • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 10:36 am #

      Yes, he’s old and sick, like the rest of them.

      Back in the day, you crossed him at your peril. He was the kind of man who would get you back even if it hurt him worse.

      • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 12:22 pm #

        Get back at you even if it hurt him worse?

        Sounds like western sanctions against Russia.

  13. 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 10:23 am #

    Musk in aviators in Illegal Pass, Texas, filming and asking why both politicians and their propaganda outlets care so much more about Ukraine’s borders over our own borders.

    Cue propaganda hacks calling him a right-winger.

    The next question should be why did they plan for this happen, not allow this to happen.

    • mitchellc September 29, 2023 at 10:41 am #

      As I have noted countless times, the motivation for population replacement in both W Europe and N America is to eleminate anyone who has a living or family memory of surplus.

      Erase the people, erase the history, erase the past. What you’re left with is a fresh palette, a people just happy to have the bare essentials of employment, housing, transportation, food and money.

      I mean, it makes perfect sense. You’ve commented yourself on the state of your ‘fellow’ Americans; they’ve been corrupted and fattened for the feast.

      Anywho, as is my usual position, why cry over what happened? Why not give at least a grudging nod of recognition of how well the situation was played by elite thinkers?

      The key now is to leave the past behind; focus on the future and all that. As we know, king dollar is on its death bed. What happens next is pretty easy to determine: China simply muscles in on the action.

      How that plays in Peoria is more than obvious, as some posters have opined that a break up of the federal government would be the next logical step.

      However, HOWEVER, how do the individual states operate in an environment where actual, honest to doG value add must be provided to the global marketplace in order to acquire goods (aka food & gas) & services?

      That’s what I can’t figure. So, once again as I like to say, “no tickie, no washie”.

      • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 10:56 am #

        Your habitual forced sycophancy aside,what the seccessionists have failed to grasp is that the only thing keeping the US afloat (for the time being) is its wandering bloated military.

        Its ability to take what it wants.
        The last arrow in its quiver.

        But wait! What about all the debt held by foreign nations?
        Japan holds more bonds than China.
        The failure of the bonds would only help China.
        Japan would be another nice flower to add to its vase.

        But we’re left with a menacing failing state.
        Like a rabid dog exposing its teeth.
        Flotillas, tanks, bombers, nukes.

        The threat is all that remains.

        For now, until Ukraine proves otherwise (as Iraq, Afghanistan losses inexplicably have not, at least to us, China and Russia read the losses correctly).

        • BackRowHeckler September 29, 2023 at 1:02 pm #

          Avatar, I would submit the US Military is not that bloated; the budget that supports it may be bloated, however. A standing regular army of 450,000 soldiers, of which about 50,000 are trained for combat, doesn’t seem too big for a nation with a population of 335 million. When Bulgaria entered WW1 it had 450,000 troops. Of course there is the Marines, an effective fighting force, but probably not up to facing off with a combined China/NKorea juggernaut, with their 17 million troops in the field.

          • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 1:24 pm #

            I submit that ground wars dependent upon human fodder/troops is not what keeps and has kept the US in uni-pole position.

            It is its diversified arsenal and ability to bomb anyone and anything to hell relatively quickly.

          • BackRowHeckler September 29, 2023 at 2:03 pm #

            True enough, Avatar.

            The US was never much of a land power, except with its amateurish armies during the American Civil War.

          • Uncle Bob October 1, 2023 at 5:31 pm #

            BRH, the Wehrmacht would beg to differ with you, especially the forces that had to deal with Patton.

      • Jarek September 29, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

        Have you never heard of a “command economy”? You’re spoiled, Mitch. The new people aren’t – as you said.

        You’re so close. But at the last minute you failed because of lack of imagination.

        Schwab: The stakeholders are on board.

        The facade of Capitalism and the ugliness of the market place are just so many fading dreams now.

      • messianicdruid September 29, 2023 at 12:20 pm #

        “…to eleminate anyone who has a living or family memory of surplus.”

        …to eleminate anyone who has a living or family memory of Liberty.

  14. Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 10:25 am #

    Speaking of rule of law, I see Elon Musk has hied himself down to the border to see for himself what is going on, as no one in government or the media wants to do any real reporting on the situation.

    He’s a bright guy, he appears to be catching on that this is a deliberate invasion, supported by governments, rather than some “humanitarian crisis.

    “Is the German public aware of this?”


    “Went to the Eagle Pass border crossing to see what’s really going on”


    Naturally, he is making some enemies:

    Musk’s X is the largest source of disinformation, EU official says

    LONDON (AP) — A top European Union official said Tuesday that the social network X, formerly known as Twitter, is the biggest source of fake news and urged owner Elon Musk to comply with the bloc’s laws aimed at combating disinformation.


    “Elon still needs to fire some folks. Someone working here didn’t like @elonmusk’s border posts.”


    • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 10:30 am #

      Musk doesn’t pay as well as Soros, the man undeniably funding the invasions of the west and the people he despises.

      Until Musk pays them off like Soros and his PAC’s, lobbying funds, and NGO’s do, he won’t get heard.

      • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 10:43 am #

        He’ll be lucky if he doesn’t get indicted for something.

        Bobby Jr. just found out some of the “refugees” are flying in.

        Well duh.

        I could have told him that months ago.

        He said “illegal immigrants”. That’s a step in the right direction.

        “Apparently, illegal immigrants have been flying directly into the U.S. on commercial aircraft without even having to cross the border. 200,000 in the last year.”


      • DaveO907 September 29, 2023 at 11:15 am #

        There’s bigger money than Soros has that finances his endeavors. Always has been.
        He gets the notoriety the big money doesn’t want.

        • Uncle Bob September 29, 2023 at 12:01 pm #

          Soros is a flunky of the World Economic Forum.

        • Jarek September 29, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

          Say it: The Rothschilds and associate banking families.

          He’s the Tip of the Spear.

          Conspiracy Theorists (especially White Nationalist ones) have been right about everything. Everyone else has been wrong about everything.

          In any case, the Kalergi Plan to wipe of White Humanity has been subsumed into a larger identity of wiping out most of humanity. Perhaps Whites first as per the old plan.

    • Slugoon September 29, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

      It’s the same here in Britain. In 1997, the Blair creature opened the floodgates and every year since, whether under Labour or Conservative rule, we’ve had mass net immigration.

      The Conservatives used to trot out some line about being “committed to reducing immigration to the tens of thousands” (LOL) but it’s all theatre. If they really wanted to reduce immigration they could do it tomorrow.

      We have the English Channel. We have a Navy (possibly another LOL). Turn the boats back. Do what Salvini did. But no. They create nothing more than newspaper headlines about flying people to Rwanda.

      The only sane conclusion is that they are deliberately destroying the demographic and trying to pretend that they’re not. Not that I care one iota after seeing the behaviour of people (of all ethnicities and backgrounds) during ‘the Covid years.’

      • BackRowHeckler September 29, 2023 at 1:09 pm #

        I gotta tell you Slugoon, watching street video from London, Manchester, Liverpool etc. what I see is unbelievable. Am I remiss in asking, are there any White British people left in your big cities? I don’t see any. In the UK, who wanted this? You fought like hell in the 40s to keep the Germans out, but look what you have now.

        • Slugoon October 1, 2023 at 8:33 am #

          In the big cities, not many, it is unrecognisable from the Britain that even my father grew up in. In parts of the Midlands, where I grew up, you may as well be in Karachi or Islamabad. Such is the success of ‘diversity’. The country is merely balkanising and that’s not the fault of Whitey. Birds of a feather, and all that.

          I live in a nice part of Cheshire now where it is more traditional white, middle class but it’s not just the fact of non-White British. As I mention above, what I saw during Covid makes me despise people in general, regardless of culture or ethnicity, which personally I don’t care about.

          It would just be nice to have countrymen, of any background, that aren’t just so utterly stupid, classless and blinkered.

          Having said that, I just listened to a radio station here and lots of callers were weighing in negatively on the Ukraine situation with regard to sending British troops there. A lot of people seem clued up about what’s going on and the causes of the conflict despite the propaganda machine that runs 24-7.

      • Night Owl September 29, 2023 at 4:12 pm #

        “Not that I care one iota after seeing the behaviour of people (of all ethnicities and backgrounds) during ‘the Covid years.’”

        Indeed, it has done some psychological damage.

        Watching any Western country you call home go full Nazi is not something I ever thought I would experience.

        Almost doesn’t matter who replaces who now.

  15. lizharmon September 29, 2023 at 10:30 am #

    I’m not discouraged, Jim. Anything but. We’re one day closer to our destiny. Here’s how it plays out. The nation dissolves into about 5 or 6 new countries. The Canuckistan provinces of Saskatchewan and Alberta join in. The federal government with its balls cut off will be able to repudiate the national debt and it will disappear POOF. Going forward, The nation of Dixie will thrive as will the Kingdom of Deseret and maybe the Midwest west of the Mississippi and the Great Plains states. Californistan is done, as is your part of the world. Sorry, but that’s the way it’s gonna be.

    • mitchellc September 29, 2023 at 10:52 am #

      Ah, but here’s the thing young grasshopper, what exactly do any of these 5-6 regions actually bring to the global table in terms of trade, resources, capabilities, etc?

      As Islander notes below, like locusts we blew through the incredible abundance of N American natural resources in a mere 200 years. Now, we don’t have anything left that the world actually needs/wants.

      This is where I think a lot of people actually get it wrong: what does the world want? Well, which region is the most beautiful place on earth with the best possible weather?

      Why wouldn’t the other 7b people (minimum 1b with economic means) want to own real estate or at least visit for a vacation? Now, compare that to the the NE, Midwest, etc – what exactly do they have that anyone could possibly want?

      Sidenote: this is where the interesting discussion actually lays, the unknown future teased out from various fact threads.

      • stelmosfire September 29, 2023 at 11:05 am #

        “Well, which region is the most beautiful place on earth with the best possible weather?”

        Where might this magical land be?

      • Phineas September 29, 2023 at 11:09 am #

        The US has more oil in the ground than any other country in the world. We have vast farmlands. The north American continent is easily self sufficient.

        All 57 states opps 50 become independent nation states making whatever alliances they deem necessary with other states to trade and for defense.

        Each state can then deport it’s illegals as they deem necessary.

        We don’t need to trade with anyone if we so choose.

        • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 11:14 am #

          The farmland is dependent on vast amount of fertilizers. That land has been dead for a century.

          • messianicdruid September 29, 2023 at 12:29 pm #

            Plow up the right-of-ways of the interstate system. Hundreds if thousands of acres. Fresh.

          • mary.m September 29, 2023 at 12:33 pm #

            Not here in Maine.

          • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 12:45 pm #

            Tell me about that Maine growing season

          • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 1:26 pm #

            The farmland is also dependent on imported or pumped water.

            Some farmlands in the Central Valley in California are already ruined by the selenium in the water.

            When the Ogalla Aquifer goes, millions of acres of what is now productive farmland goes.

          • Yirgach September 29, 2023 at 4:30 pm #

            It’s all based on supply/demand.

            Reduce the demand, then there’s plenty of supply.

          • mary.m September 30, 2023 at 5:26 am #

            Nonexistent global warming has extended Maine’s growing season by several weeks in each direction in the 20 years I’ve lived here.

            When I moved here planting season started Memorial day, to avoid frosts, & tomatoes usually had to be harvested by Sept 1. Now you can safely put out seedlings by 1st week of May most years. just picked a bunch of cherry tomatoes 2 days ago.

            Now it’s limited by length of day.

            Btw, I’ve just learned how to store fresh eggs for up to 18 months without refrigeration. No need to keep hens under lights, over 60°. Can let them follow their natural cycle with excess summer production stored for reduced production during molt & winter. Google “lime water eggs” for details.

          • Anthea October 1, 2023 at 12:30 am #

            @ 100th Avatar:

            I think the farmland that is most heavily dependent on chemical fertilizers are the government-subsidized corporate farmers growing row crops (corn and soybeans) for ethanol and export. With the federal government out of the picture, I think all or most of them would go bankrupt and be sold off and most likely broken up into small holdings. Small farmers and small holders will have the will and the know-how to practice regenerative agriculture. They’d probably grow enough corn to provide animal feed, sweet corn, and cornmeal for local markets. Soybeans are mostly for animal feed.

            The small farmer normally has a variety of livestock in addition to row crops and the vegetable garden. High tunnels to extend the growing season are already widely in use. Animal manures are sufficient for fertilizing most soils. The macro-nutrients are NPK–nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium. Chicken manures are rich in nitrogen. Animal bones provide phosphorus, and wood ashes provide potassium. It shouldn’t be a problem to access kelp and seaweed to provide micronutrients.

            A small farm of as little as five to twenty acres can produce a staggering amount of food. We have a modest-size garden, and we’ve barely been able to keep up with the over-abundant productiveness this year. (Actually, we haven’t kept up with it. Quite a bit of stuff rotted in the garden because of my cataract surgeries and my daughter’s new baby.) Add the fruit and nut trees, and the canning/freezing situation gets impossible. If everyone around here were growing a garden and fruit and nut trees and keeping livestock on the surrounding small acreages, we could feed a lot of people. Some of our neighbors do raise livestock for meat and dairy, but most of them have jobs and a couple of horses. (Livin’ the dream.)

            I don’t think food would be any problem at all in the Midwest–if about half of the population was farming in a large or small way. Where we’d struggle would be in the production of some manufactured goods, like textiles. We’d probably be able to trade with other regions for most of our needs, and eventually we’d develop some kind of manufacturing.

        • gusgus2021 September 29, 2023 at 11:47 am #

          You people always forget the illegals literally do all the farm work ,you think some fat white fox news guy is going to pick lettuce or work a ten hour shift in a slaughter house? .
          Go ahead deport all the illegals then start getting up at three to hit the fields in time.
          I have tried hiring white guys its a fucking joke Mexicans will work a 12 hour day if you ask them to .

          • megabeth September 29, 2023 at 12:16 pm #

            You’d find fellow countrymen willing to work if you were willing to pay them well. You like beaners because they’re cheaper. Same goes for the factory farms that put family farms out of business.

          • Opie September 29, 2023 at 12:17 pm #

            OK, here’s capitalism 101. Shortage of goods, prices go up. Labor shortages, prices should also rise, but they don’t. If an American guy refuses the job it may be they can’t make it at that wage. Hiring illegals willing to live dozens per trailer at 1/4 pay exacerbates the problem. As a youngster I picked many oranges along side of many black folk. This was mid 60’s, and I was amazed at how much they could potentially make depending on speed, and boy would they ever leave my 16 yo butt behind. They weren’t going to get rich, but they made it by. Same with my brief drywall hanging experience, I actually made enough money doing it that I was able to buy carpentry tools to go into construction full time.
            Anyway, if we paid what it requires, you and everyone else would see the true cost of food, but we much prefer to complain about lazy Americans and have cheap food instead.

          • RD3 September 29, 2023 at 12:19 pm #

            My goodness. Are we still on the GWB: “they do jobs Americans won’t do” train?

          • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 1:32 pm #

            Illegals do the produce picking now. It wasn’t like that when the Okies were doing it, or the Mexican-Americans were doing it.

            Americans worked in slaughter houses until the breaking of the Meat Packers Hormel strike in the 80s, at the end of the evil Reagan period, which started with the breaking of the air traffic controllers strike.

            But the whole recent ability to have fresh produce throughout the year depends on cheap labor and importations.
            Obviously, that will go.

            The big money in US farming is corn and soybeans, and those are farmed by fat white guys in giant tractors, FYI.

            Illegals don’t “literally do all the farm work”. That is propaganda.

          • RD3 September 29, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

            Almost all of the chicken plant workers in the South were native white or black Southerners until the early 2000’s.

          • RD3 September 29, 2023 at 2:21 pm #

            Ditto all of the textile workers, before those jobs were shipped out.

          • messianicdruid September 29, 2023 at 2:25 pm #

            My grandson recently graduated and had no intention of going to more school. He drives tractors, combines and earth movers, moves equipment with his own truck and trailer and seems happier than horse puckey. Go figger.

          • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 4:05 pm #

            Our ruling overlords moved production to the South before they moved to Mexico and then China.

            Same reason. Cheaper labor.


          • Mac September 29, 2023 at 6:46 pm #

            They only work hard because they’re here illegally. Once they’re out of the shadows and on the dole, they’ll be just as lazy as everyone else.

          • Anthea October 1, 2023 at 12:34 am #

            @ gusgus2021:

            Americans used to do all their own farm work. When I was a kid, the high school boys spent the last few weeks of summer bucking hay. As for the Fox News guy, he will need to find a productive occupation of some kind.

        • Jarek September 29, 2023 at 12:18 pm #

          Whites have some adjusting to do! Can we do it in time to avoid disaster? No.

          Good point by 100. We didn’t keep the land alive with manure, crop rotation, leaving fields fallow, etc. We have to keep oiling the land. Do we have enough to do that?

          • Rowdypiglet September 29, 2023 at 4:10 pm #

            “People who believe in Boomers and Gen Xers and so forth are actually believers in astrology.”

            @Beryl, it’s my observation that the groups we refer to as Boomers and Gen Xers, and others, do have identifiable characteristics when considered as a group. I don’t see a way to deny this. Individuals within those groups don’t necessarily have those characteristics and I don’t assume anything about people I meet based on their belonging to any group.
            What’s true about a group is a generalization, and has no applicability to individual people.

          • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 4:18 pm #

            I see your point and agree with much of it, Rowdy. What burns me is the way people are trying to lay blame on people based on the years they were born between.

          • Yirgach September 29, 2023 at 4:43 pm #

            There is more than enough for at least 200 years. In the mean time more advanced reliable energy sources will be developed just as robotic machines will handle all the planting, harvesting, food production and distribution.

            The major evil here is that someone will try to control all this tech.

            Sound familiar?

          • Jarek September 30, 2023 at 1:56 am #

            It’s an abstraction, Beryl. A generalization. A concept. You don’t like them, but then the question becomes: What are you doing here? There is no conversation possible without abstractions. Absolutely unique individuals would have nothing to say to each other, right? As if such beings could even exist!

      • megabeth September 29, 2023 at 12:22 pm #

        My part of the Midwest has fabulous inland seas, salt- and shark-free, huge forests, varied biomes and geography, minerals galore, large crops of vegetables and dairy,, and a population extremely inclined to spend our entire lives here.

        Don’t come.

        Don’t come.

        • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 12:40 pm #

          My family has been in New York since before it was New York.

          I’m not going anywhere.

          • messianicdruid September 29, 2023 at 2:30 pm #

            Make your stand right where you are there’s, no where else to go.

          • Rowdypiglet September 29, 2023 at 4:15 pm #

            My family has deep roots in Pennsylvania, from the earliest settlements. I left reluctantly and still long for home, but home had changed so much as to be unrecognizable in every respect. I’d have liked to defend it but there was nothing left to defend.

            It had also become so expensive that the house we own here in the cold North, with a river running behind us, would have sold for at least $5,000,000 where we came from. A 900 sq ft nasty little hovel can be had there for $400,000. On the rare occasions we go home, we recognize nothing.

          • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 4:20 pm #

            We got a lot of Amish up where I live due to the increasing cost of farmland in PA.

          • Rowdypiglet September 29, 2023 at 5:03 pm #

            @Beryl, Farmland is beyond the means of anyone in Pennsylvania now. No one can match what a developer will pay. We’re beginning to get some Amish up here in Maine and have a really delightful little Amish farm store not far from us. They’re the best of neighbors, and there’s a lot of cheap farmland just sitting here.

          • Anthea October 1, 2023 at 12:48 am #

            @ Beryl of Oyl:

            We are starting to see a few Amish settling around here, and we’re basically in the exurbs of Kansas City. Awhile back, there was a horse and buggy tied up at the town grocery store, and there are one or two signs on local roads warning us to look out for buggies.

            We’ve had a fairly large Amish presence in Missouri for several decades, due to cheap land, but it is definitely a growing population.

            The Amish have been vendors at some of the area’s farmers’ markets as far back as I can remember, and most of the produce vendors buy some of the vegetables they offer for sale from the Amish produce auction, which is in Windsor. There were a couple of years when neither I nor my daughter to could grow a garden, so we went to the produce auction in the fall. One year we each bought 100 pounds of tomatoes for canning and paid about $28 per hundred pounds. This was because it was the end of the market season, and the farmers’ market vendors had closed up shop.

    • Wizard of the Saddle September 29, 2023 at 12:01 pm #

      Don’t forget the Republic of Texas. We love our cousins in the Southern States but most Texans have learned the hard way that joining confederations (USA & CSA) has always ended badly for us.

      The Lone Star shines most brightly all by its lonesome self.

      • Jarek September 29, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

        Mexico North? The vicious crip is still letting them in. Another FDR.

        The King must never be deformed. He must “image” divinity. Thus did Nuada step down when he lost his hand in battle.

        • messianicdruid September 29, 2023 at 2:31 pm #

          Baja Oklahoma [ lol ].

      • BackRowHeckler September 29, 2023 at 1:19 pm #

        Don’t forget Wizard, the Austins originally came from Durham, Ct. Their house is still standing, with a historical marker posted out front explaining the link with Texas.

    • Heartlander September 29, 2023 at 2:29 pm #

      Re: Midwest and Great Plains states:

      As a Kansan, I’d always hoped that if Texas seceded, Kansas would join her. But we have a Damn Democrat governor. Why? The blue cities. Kansas City, Wichita, Topeka, Lawrence, heck even Manhattan and Emporia (since they’re university towns, and we know what universities do to people’s minds).

      The real divide is urban vs. rural.
      Cities vs. countryside.
      Fake vs. real.

      In the state legislature, it’s a constant struggle of the vast rural expanses that cover most of the state versus the powerful, concentrated blue hives. Our state legislators from our rural areas fight a long and grueling battle for survival, God bless them.

      • messianicdruid September 29, 2023 at 2:39 pm #

        Same here in the Nations. Beaver, Cimmaron & Texas counties:


        constantly complain about being treated like a red-headed step-child.

      • Rowdypiglet September 29, 2023 at 4:40 pm #

        @Heartlander, This is why I’m unable to understand how anyone thinks we could break up the states in this way. The dividing line is not red state/blue state but rural/city. The cities rule over the rural areas in every single state.

        In Maine, the Portland city council voted to give illegals (whom they had invited) first opportunity for Section 8 housing, which had a long waiting list. Actual citizens of Maine had waited for years without being housed and were to be put at the end of the line. Governor LePage, who was relentlessly mocked in the press for his support of Trump, refused to release the money – noting that it had been paid into the treasury by the taxpayers of Maine and was intended for their housing.

        We now have Gov. Mills (D) possibly indicating she’s a Democrat, equally possibly a Demon. Having recently visited the once beautiful, safe city of Portland, I was reminded of the worst of Newark. They have had their way with us, and there is nothing that would induce me to go back to Portland. It broke my heart.

        No one among the supposed deplorables of rural Maine voted for Janet Mills. She is a product of Portland and the rich coast of Maine. She brought her retinue of useless hangers on with her and has installed them everywhere.

        Rural Maine (which consists in large part of old Maine families who have been driven back from the coast by inflated real estate prices) are without representation. Susan Collins and Angus King are RINOs who almost always vote with the Democrats. Maine is unrecognizable from what it was a mere 25 years ago. People “from away” have put an end to it.

        • Not_GeorgeT September 30, 2023 at 6:40 am #

          Maine is an unfortunate example of the true impact of ranked-choice voting laws.

          • Uncle Bob October 1, 2023 at 9:06 pm #

            But how can that be? We’re told ranked I you’re is more fair and accurate than conventional voting. Could it be that the Democrats media complex is lying again? No! Democrats and news people never lie! /eyeroll

      • Yirgach September 29, 2023 at 5:11 pm #

        This is the reason that the Founding Fathers created the electoral college to balance out the influence of population centers vs the rural areas.

        Unfortunately or fortunately, the States were not required to follow this blueprint of the Republic. That was supposed to be handled by members of the US Senate being appointed, not elected from the States. This logic was destroyed by the 17th Amendment in 1913 and the Senate was then elected by popular vote.

        It all went downhill from there…

        • Not_GeorgeT September 30, 2023 at 6:43 am #

          Among Amendments in need of Repeal, the 17th is up at the top.

      • Anthea October 1, 2023 at 1:13 am #

        @ Heartlander:

        The main trouble with the blue cities in Kansas is that they are full of government employees. Topeka is the state capital, and Lawrence and Manhattan are university cities. Even Johnson County (Overland Park, Prairie Village, Shawnee, Leawood, Olathe [the county seat], Blue Valley, etc.), which used to be solidly red, are now full of government employees, lawyers, and health care workers (which is pretty much the same thing as a government employee), as well as being centers for the FIRE economy. Seems like the women are all teachers or nurses, and the men are all bankers, insurance agents, doctors, or realtors. KCK is an odd one. I lived there many years ago, and it now has some affluent suburbs, but I never could figure out what half the people there did for a living–if anything. I think about half of them were on welfare.

  16. Islander September 29, 2023 at 10:31 am #

    We simply do not have an economy to back up any government expenditures—even the reasonable ones.

    See Andrei Martyanov’s post yesterday, “Economics 101.”

    The USA started with a perfect situation: Owned a whole continent crammed with resources, on a gigantic island, basically. North of us, a source of pretty cheap energy: Canada.

    But the country blew it. Its owner classes such as Rockefeller and Morgan and Schiff and their ilk decided they wanted to take over and control Earth’s other gigantic Island, Eurasia.

    They almost succeeded, but now it’s all starting to fall apart, both at home and abroad.

    Lavrov has made it clear: The war in the Ukraine will be decided on the battlefield. That also means the ultimate demise of NATO.

    • mitchellc September 29, 2023 at 10:45 am #

      Exactly – two thumbs up.

      Now for the next mental exercise: what happens next?

      This is where the game is played, the head space of trying to predict the future.

      • Billy Hill September 29, 2023 at 11:21 am #

        Hungary and Poland carve out chunks of territory, as Russia annexes Odessa and possibly even Kiev. The remaining Bandera-State will persist presenting Russia with an insurgency problem likely solved by a version of Escape From New York ruthlessly administered by Putin’s successors — who will not be mister nice-guy lawyer/diplomat. The rest of the Euro-zone will be preoccupied with the effects from immigration. Forced repatriation is within reason. Turkeye may finally decide which bloc has the best deal. All of them will continue joyfully hating one another for perceived wrongs dating back hundreds if not thousands of years.

        The USA will do as it always does — declare victory and leave the mess for others to clean up and focus instead on the massive oil fields under that pesky Venezuelan soil as well as Guyana, where they may likely find the Chinese milling about, acting, well, dammit, Chinese. There will be even more impassioned calls in Congress to “do something! Anything!” to counter the Yellow Peril.

        • PeteAtomic September 30, 2023 at 11:28 am #

          “Hungary and Poland carve out chunks of territory, as Russia annexes Odessa and possibly even Kiev. The remaining Bandera-State will persist presenting Russia with an insurgency problem likely solved by a version of Escape From New York ruthlessly administered by Putin’s successors — who will not be mister nice-guy lawyer/diplomat. The rest of the Euro-zone will be preoccupied with the effects from immigration. Forced repatriation is within reason. Turkeye may finally decide which bloc has the best deal. All of them will continue joyfully hating one another for perceived wrongs dating back hundreds if not thousands of years.

          The USA will do as it always does — declare victory and leave the mess for others to clean up and focus instead on the massive oil fields under that pesky Venezuelan soil as well as Guyana, where they may likely find the Chinese milling about, acting, well, dammit, Chinese. There will be even more impassioned calls in Congress to “do something! Anything!” to counter the Yellow Peril.”

          Yup, good summation there, Billy.

      • mitchellc September 29, 2023 at 11:31 am #

        Benny: There we go, excellent example. Yeah, I’m focused on 3 major factors:

        1. Continued rapid inflation – regular is now $6/gal in SoCal. I really think it will hit $10/gal without much effort.

        2. Continued invasion – the flood gates are now open, and there isn’t going to be any return to the “way things used to be”.

        The new immigrants fulfill the desire to reduce living standards, and usher in the era of high density housing, public transportation, regulated health, provisioning of basic food stuffs and of course monetary control.

        3. Venezuela – Ding dind ding!!! We need a war we can win, S America fits within a standing 200 year US policy, and we can challenge those damn Ruskies and Chinese in our own hemisphere.

        VZ is also a key part of the Latinization process, which is why they are being sponsored to come trough Eagle Pass and other border crossing points.

        Combine possible citizenship with military service and the beauty of the plan comes into full view

        Once again, I can’t be the only person at least giving nudging recognition to how well this has all been played, am I?

        • OG September 29, 2023 at 12:21 pm #

          C’mon, Mitchy. Show us your GLT.

        • DaveO907 September 29, 2023 at 2:19 pm #

          “We need a war we can win…”
          FFS, you sound like a cross between JFK’s “Best and the Brightest” who sickeningly became LBJ loyalists and as well Reagan-Bush One and Two midnight ghouls like Elliott Abrams and the Walrus.

          The CIA ran the Vietnam War, you said your dad…[?] That reminds me of Pinochet’s CIA-inspired-financed wet work on his own population.
          “Make the Chilean economy SCREAM, Henry!” So said NIxon. A lot more people than the economy screamed. Screaming while tortured and raped and no doubt screaming as they were thrown out of airplanes over the southern Pacific ocean too.

          Venezuela begs to differ, and the citizenry is armed and will happily fight a guerilla war for the 21st century—especially against the U.S. that has locked down and sanctioned the shit out of the country for a decade plus—even vital to survival medicines are prohibited.

          The Owners of the U.S. government made Venezuela what it is today. Now you keep repeating a mantra worthy of only a lowlife Kagan-PNAC sociopath.

          As if enough other peoples’ blood hasn’t spilled by ‘our’ hand this early in the century…? From a foreign policy establishment that lives for primal revenge , is enthralled by vendettas, and serves to reward only the already rich? That’s some sicko shit.

          • Heartlander September 29, 2023 at 3:06 pm #

            Um… I think you are reading Mitch totally wrong, for reasons I can’t fathom. (Are you just being deliberately obtuse?) Mitch was giving us a theory on how the Evil Ones might proceed. He never said he was on board with them!!

          • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 3:49 pm #

            He has implied that many times, Heartlander, by telling us to admire them and strive to be like them, profiting from other people’s misery.

            Did you skip over his last sentence?

            ”Once again, I can’t be the only person at least giving nudging recognition to how well this has all been played, am I?”

          • DaveO907 September 29, 2023 at 3:57 pm #

            What am I missing? Are you saying this is sarc, or what? He said much the same thing in Monday’s edition.

            “3. Venezuela – Ding dind ding!!! We need a war we can win, S America fits within a standing 200 year US policy, and we can challenge those damn Ruskies and Chinese in our own hemisphere.”

            I can be obtuse, I can be said to have taken the bait wrongly, but if so, tell me how in this instance. I don’t go out of my way to egregiously misinterpret others’ statements, and if wrong will retreat with apologies.
            I just see too many buying into the cartoonish Venezuela that has been constructed by the Mighty Wurlizer and the NYT complex.

            mitchellc writes in such a way that his philosophy is not readily apparent to a relative newbie like myself. Others appear have what seem to be long term contentious relationships with him on this platform. Not me. This was my first engagement and I would have rather he himself responded to set me straight, if that is indeed the case. You seem quite certain, I’m taking that under advisement. I’m not looking to make enemies here.
            As I said, I find his philosophy difficult to decipher often enough.

          • Islander September 30, 2023 at 1:00 pm #

            I am quite sure that Mitch is being sarcastic—channeling the dreams of TPTB.

            Or perhaps, forward planning

            “Well played,” IMO, refers to the possibility that there may well be a long-term plan here.

            The special attention being given to Venezuelan migrants—the fact that qua Venezuelans they are automatically treated as bona fide political asylum seekers and allowed to the top of the queue without further ado, given work permits, etc.—invites speculation as to the long-term plan.

            I first read a commenter at MoA speculate on planning for future “actions” in light of the USA’s future energy needs and the Venezuela’s status as the most oil-rich country. It made sense to me.

            The *next day* I read that 500,000 migrant Vens were being given work permits.

            The day after that I read of huge oil and gas deposits in Guyana, next to Venezuela—but there is a longstanding border dispute : Venezuela claims the territory with the magnum oil. Exxon and others already have deals with Guyana, population ca. 850,000. . .

            Mayorkas is Cuban. I wonder whether he recalls the Bay of Pigs.

            Does anyone else here spot a few dots whispering, “Connect us”? . . .

        • Billy Hill September 29, 2023 at 2:31 pm #

          I may be mistaken but Venezuela has the largest proven oil reserves. It’s the heavy sour stuff from which diesel flows. Can also be cracked to produce gasoline. Light sweet cannot produce diesel. At least not today.

          Heavy oil powers large machinery (think mining, agriculture) aviation and shipping.

          IOW, it’s pretty damn central to energy reality now and in the foreseeable future. Dey ain’t gonna be no battery-powered combines any time soon.

          Blinken was recently visiting Guyana — no slouch either with what? 11 billion barrels? The boy has been looking kinda pale lately. I’m sure he was there for the sun.

          • Islander October 1, 2023 at 10:31 am #


            Stay tuned.

        • Rowdypiglet September 29, 2023 at 4:57 pm #

          @Mitchellc, I recently read someone (I’d credit them but I can’t remember where I read this) speculating that the vast numbers of military age men being let into the country would be offered citizenship in return for serving in the military. They would then be immediately fed into the various proxy wars we so enjoy, and would be returned in body bags.

          This prediction was in part based on the fact that we have few young people who are fit enough, physically or mentally, for military service. Also on the fact that our high tech weaponry is too complex and doesn’t work well in actual combat situations when used against humans operating simpler machinery.

          Since gaining more Democrat voters has at least some aroma of superficial benevolence about it, in that someone gets something they wanted out of it, it seems to me that using these people as fodder is more in keeping with the world views of the Cheney and Wolfowitz types and therefore more plausible.

          • Anthea October 1, 2023 at 1:29 am #

            @ Rowdypiglet:

            I don’t see any incentive for illegal immigrants to become citizens. They can already work, drive, vote, and enjoy free education and medical care. And I don’t think anyone is going to deport them. That ship has sailed.

        • mary.m September 30, 2023 at 5:35 am #

          A+++ on the sarcasm.

          Yes, they’ve done quite the job of playing us all…

      • Disaffected September 29, 2023 at 6:23 pm #

        “It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”

        ? Yogi Berra

    • Slugoon September 29, 2023 at 12:39 pm #

      You are guilty of peddling Western propaganda, Islander. That’s not exactly what Lavrov said and is taken out of context. He said something along the lines of “if the West wants to settle it on the battlefield then we’ll settle it on the battlefield.”

      The MSM news source I saw had exactly the same distortion: “Russia sez let’s settle it on the battlefield” then expanded his actual quote in small print underneath.

    • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 1:43 pm #

      We can already see what is next. The US is attacking Syrians, and Russians, in the 30% of Syria it occupies. It will be a fight to get the US out of Syria, because they are stealing their oil and wheat, and the US will kill for oil.

      Meanwhile, in Armenia, the US-puppet prime minister has handed over Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan, which promptly attacked. 250,000 refugees are fleeing to Armenia, and the Mighty Wurlitzer is blaming the entire thing on Russia!!!!

      NGOs in Georgia are stirring up trouble again.

      In Serbia, Serbs are being killed by US-backed muslims, and Orthodox churches are being burned, (same as in Ukraine.)

      People in Transnistria are being threatened.

      Don’t forget the Color Revolutions- 2020 in Belarus, Kyrgyzstan in 2020, and Kazakhstan in 2022.

      The Empire of Chaos never sleeps, and it won’t give up trying to destroy and dismember Russia, because that is where the wealth is.

      • Heartlander September 29, 2023 at 3:11 pm #

        A few years ago, I would have condemned Lukashenko as a dictator, but when you start looking at what his country is up against from the WEF/US/West, you begin to understand the survival value for Belarus of having a tough guy at the top.

        • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 3:57 pm #

          Part of Color Revolutions are demonizing the targeted leader. They are always “brutal dictators”, with the addition at times of “targeting their own people”, thereby making the US attempt to overthrow them an act of merciful charity. Like in Libya, doncha know. And just ignore the fact that the US is openly funding and arming Ukraine to target their own people in the Donbass. Consistency is not required to be a subject of propaganda.

          Lukashenko was one of the few leaders (I think the only one in Europe), who stood up to the covid agenda, AND he testified that he was offered a billion dollars in IMF funds to comply.

          Now we know why almost every country in the world complied. There were only a few honest and non-corruptible leaders.
          The ones in Tanzania and Haiti ended up dead for their resistance.

        • DaveO907 September 29, 2023 at 4:02 pm #

          Roger that re: Lukashenko. The entire NED-Soros complex has been taking advantage of too many host countries’ hospitality in order to undermine the self-governance and self-determination of their bloc and its individual nations. Navalny being a prime example.

          • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 4:06 pm #

            Yes, and Pashinyan.

      • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 7:36 pm #

        This is so sad. The Empire of Chaos ruins lives, even when it doesn’t actually kill them.

        “I thought of setting fire to my house, but I didn’t have the heart – I washed the dishes, arranged them on the shelves, as if I was expecting visitors… This year the dates are very good. The Turks will eat them. I left them a letter, I wrote to them that honest people lived in this house, who made eveeything by the sweat of their faces, and I asked them to keep it clean. I asked them also to water the flowers.”
        A refugee from Artsakh – Nagorno Karabakh…
        September 2023…

        • Heartlander September 29, 2023 at 10:39 pm #


    • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 1:47 pm #

      Americans believe that if Russia defeats Ukraine, then the US will give up its plans.
      Russia doesn’t believe that.

      That is one reason why they don’t do Shock and Awe, and simply mow Ukraine to the ground, and kill everyone there, the way that Americans do.

      That would do nothing but play into US hands, because the US plan is to depopulate Ukraine anyway.

      A depopulated Ukraine (killing mostly ethnic Russians) doesn’t help Russia at all, it helps Blackrock.
      And the US would simply move to another front.

      • DaveO907 September 29, 2023 at 2:29 pm #

        The Vultures have the crime scene secured.
        The domestic one too, where far too many think this is about “securing the Homeland (Über Alles)” rather than the naked imperialism for the 1/10 of 1% who actually drive this wildly careening bus.
        Feck! Will some people even ever get a clue?

    • Islander September 29, 2023 at 1:52 pm #

      Actually, there is a third gigantic island, and that is Africa.

      The West and the BRICS are fighting over Africa now. Another giant waste of US treasure.

      IMO the USA—the real USA, like, us—has no use for Africa except as a source of certain specialized goods such as coffee and the occasional diamond.

      Who need the climate, and the aggravation?

      As for the best climate and terrain, why do you think the Asian hordes all drifted westward? Because it is green there.

      IMO nothing can match the East Coast of the USA from Cape Cod south to the Carolinas for good climate and conditions such as nice scenery and great beaches. Except so much of the East Coast is effed up.

      Now they are going to finish the effing-up job by industrializing the Continental Shelf with giant wind turbines.

      I hope the next ’38-er-sized hurricane takes them all out and twists them into giant pretzels.

      Is there a wind turbine company called Hubris?

      • gustafson.robert.22 September 29, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

        The year is 2045, and among other things, all offshore wind installations are sea-trash.

      • BackRowHeckler September 29, 2023 at 3:54 pm #

        Those giant wind turbines won’t last long; the bigger they are, the harder they’ll fall.

        Wind Turbines are tremendously expensive, fragile and unreliable. The reason German/Spanish wind turbine manufacturer Seimens-Gamesa filed for bankruptcy was because of the tremendous amount of warranty work they had to perform on wind turbines already installed. It broke the company. Anybody who has worked at Sea, in the Navy or Merchant Marine, knows how destructive the marine environment is to machinery and mechanical devices; the amount of maintenance to keep things running is astronomical.

        • Soul Forensics September 29, 2023 at 7:22 pm #

          It’s my understanding that Spain is the best place on this abused, spinning orb for wind power. And it’s a failure even there.

          Other places? Well, there’s the wind’s erratic, impossible-to-predict power: less than 25% of the time, in many of the other “prime” locations”, and underpowered even during those active times. Not to mention the enormous tracts of land needed, often in urban and suburban centres, just to power a small city.

          And then the breakdowns, the fossil fuels to try to maintain the operations, the bird deaths that alt-loving eco-warriors avoid talking about and which far exceed the Exxon-Valdez disaster, and the eventual wholesale collapse of infrastructure.

        • megabeth September 29, 2023 at 8:10 pm #

          Gamesa made turbines? Lol! They are sort of like the Mexican Nabisco.

        • Not_GeorgeT September 30, 2023 at 7:09 am #

          Subsidizing the manufacturers at taxpayer expense is a great way to launder money.

          “…….the amount of maintenance to keep things running is astronomica”

          and the rest of what you wrote.

          I wonder what the disaster will look like when the ‘farms’** such as the one off the Vineyard, will look like after being hurricane ravaged.

          Imagine trying to repair and bring them back online. Not work for the faint-of-heart.

          **such a bucolic word applied to hide the boondoggle laced with perks for the ‘connected’

  17. HowardBeale September 29, 2023 at 10:36 am #

    At least Feinstein is dead. Nature hasn’t completely abandoned the Human project.
    Now all of those who don’t believe in God should pray that Pelosi and Schumer are taken out next.
    Then if we can engage a sensible psychiatrist or psychologist we can have Adam Schiff put in a padded cell somewhere.
    Forget the minor players like the guy who slept with the Chinese spy He’s an idiot
    Go Nature! We need some help here.


    • crudgemudgeon September 29, 2023 at 10:50 am #

      Di Fi is dead, but will still vote D.

    • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 10:57 am #

      Elon has been questioning Mitch’s mental fitness.

      Seriously, it’s time for Mitch to move on

      This man has immense power – let that sink in


      • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 11:12 am #

        If one was unsure, or doubted, that the Republican Party is nothing other than a LARP troupe, controlled opposition, the fictional antagonist in the theater we call government, Mitch McConnell’s very existence should settle the disbelief.

        He has not done one thing to thwart the Democrats.
        In fact, he has aided them by doing nothing.

        And barely hanging on to life, nobody in his party has dared sparred with him. Nobody has dared taken him to task for not defying the wars, the open borders, the COVID hoax, the January 6 set-up, and the politicalization and weaponization of our justice, defense, and intelligence departments/agencies.

        Yet here we are, a year before an election, and the dumbass American public believes a vote for “the other party” may right the ship.

        It is a hell of a lot easier to believe than reality: it is all fiction.

        • RD3 September 29, 2023 at 12:11 pm #

          I had a hearty chuckle when the gobbler froze up on camera. Unfortunately, his Chinese second wife will outlive him and continue to sell the country out long after he and his giant wattle descend in to Hades.

        • Jarek September 29, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

          He’s a strong supporter of BLM – just like Mittens Romney.

        • Not_GeorgeT September 30, 2023 at 7:13 am #

          “…and the dumbass American public believes a vote for “the other party” may right the ship.”

          Dumbed down, can’t recognize the reality of the Uniparty.

    • elysianfield September 29, 2023 at 12:16 pm #

      ” Pelosi”

      Oh…if I had a hammer….

    • Opie September 29, 2023 at 12:19 pm #

      I’d feel better if I could see a stake in her heart.

    • DaveO907 September 29, 2023 at 2:32 pm #

      Put Adam Schiff in a cell with a man named Steely Dan. He’s far too dangerous anywhere near power.

  18. stonned September 29, 2023 at 10:59 am #

    “The weeks ahead will inform us if there’s anything that can be salvaged of our federal government or whether we must make other arrangements.”

    YOU best make OTHER arrangements.

    In case YOU have forgotten…..

    YOU and the rest of US are NON-ESSENTIAL.

    The “BLOB” YOU keep referencing, is, as YOU know, a CRIMINAL SYNDICATE, the likes of which hasn’t been seen since the SANHEDRIN at the time of Christ.

    HE turned over THEIR money ($$$) tables in the TEMPLE.

    THEY killed him for that.

    This isn’t YOUR country.

    You OWN NOTHING that can’t be TAKEN from YOU at ANY time THEY want….

    and when the time comes….

    ALL YOUR bullsheet will be STRIPPED away and YOU will face, NOT a BLOB…..


    • elysianfield September 29, 2023 at 12:17 pm #

      Yeah…what stonned said….

      • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 4:01 pm #

        Seriously? That impressed you?

        • elysianfield September 29, 2023 at 6:28 pm #

          …Some of it.

    • Jarek September 29, 2023 at 12:27 pm #

      What was that 60’s book? Even a Stone Can Be a Teacher.

    • Hated American September 30, 2023 at 10:48 pm #

      Yeah, John Kerry was telling us that a few weeks ago.

  19. cowbell81 September 29, 2023 at 11:05 am #

    Maybe they’ll take that old 50-gallon rusty drum and send it off on its maiden voyage over Niagara Falls. Now there is a fitting visual for you!

    • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 11:20 am #

      Niagara Falls- quite a tourist attraction, yet due to our government in New York, the vicinity is rundown.

      • cowbell81 September 29, 2023 at 11:35 am #

        Remember when Nabisco advertised their wares as being made in Buffalo using pure clean hydro-electricity? Shredded wheat, that’s the stuff….

      • RD3 September 29, 2023 at 11:48 am #

        The New York side is a piece of shit and the Canadian side is absurdly expensive. The guy who owned all of the land should have just kept it in the family.

  20. Disaffected September 29, 2023 at 11:17 am #

    Correct me if I’m wrong Jim (or anybody), but in the midst of all this budget kerfuffle, absolutely nobody is proposing to cutoff the funding for Biden’s Ukraine “misadventure” (aka, heist), or even suspend it until the fake budget issues are worked out. No? Then the whole thing is just so much shadow boxing. Start with the big stuff and the small stuff will eventually work itself out. Shutting down everything will just hurt everyone else. The whole thing reeks of just another in a long line of bait and switch operations.

    • cowbell81 September 29, 2023 at 11:46 am #

      Correct, but as a matter of fact the Congress did guarantee an additional $6.5 billion in funding to the Ukraine, just to cover them through any government shutdown. Originally, they wanted to exempt the Ukraine funding from any cutoff in case of a shutdown, and they were seeking something like $26 billion dollars. Boy, wouldn’t it be a shame if Zielinsky had to survive on canned tuna and ramen during a shutdown? The horror!

      You know what I just realized?

      Stacey Abrams = Abrams Tanks

      Same name, similar size….coincidence?

    • BackRowHeckler September 29, 2023 at 2:08 pm #

      Schwag for Ukraine is sacrosanct. We’ll eliminate

      • BackRowHeckler September 29, 2023 at 2:11 pm #

        … We’ll eliminate aid for starving orphans & widows before we cut aid for Ukraine.

        • Not_GeorgeT September 30, 2023 at 7:22 am #

          Ukraine: meat-grinder; possible arms bazaar (if much actually arrives and is not immediately vaporized by the Russian military); financial laundromat for various groups and individuals;

          when it finally fails in real time, where will the Empire turn next?

          or… is the Empire too close to terminal velocity to switch lanes?

          • Paula D September 30, 2023 at 3:19 pm #

            Armenia, Serbia, Kazakhstan, Georgia, Syria, the Baltics, Finland, Kyrgyzstan, for starters.

            And I mean by that, they have already started.

            That’s not even counting the usual grabs for oil in Venezuela, Guyana and Nigeria, and the jockeying for position in Somalia, Oman, UAE, Yemen, Taiwan, and the Philippines.

            The Empire is not down for the count.

          • Paula D September 30, 2023 at 7:43 pm #

            ”In conjunction with the American announcement about the training in Jordan, the “Inherent Resolve” operations room of the American-led international coalition in Syria and Iraq said that on September 8, it launched air operational training at or near the occupied by US “Al-Tanf” base, in Syrian soil, with the aim of “verifying the validity of the weapons systems and maintaining the crew’s efficiency and readiness.”
            These exercises continued on an almost daily basis in the areas of American influence in eastern Syria during the current September, as it was stated in the same announcement that the American forces would launch basic defensive operational exercises in or near the Deir Ezzor region .
            Also in Iraq, the international coalition forces launched military exercises on September 4, and continued almost daily until today, Friday, according to a separate announcement received through the official website of the “Inherent Resolve” operations room of the international coalition.
            It added that it had launched operational air exercises in or near the Erbil area in Iraq “to verify the validity of the weapons systems and maintain the crew’s proficiency and readiness.”
            US Central Command

          • Anthea October 1, 2023 at 1:46 am #

            @ Paula D:

            How will all this work out if the dollar becomes worthless, or nearly so?

            Soldiers won’t soldier if you can’t pay them, and all of those tanks, planes, and battleships cost money.

            Aren’t they racing against time? And–by undermining the dollar–cutting their own throats? Do they figure they can conquer Russia and take over Venezuela before they bleed out?

          • Paula D October 1, 2023 at 1:45 pm #

            Beats me, Anthea. If it were up to me, I would withdraw to within our own borders, and concentrate on improving the infrastructure and the soil, and the lives of our citizens.

            But it’s not up to me, and we are ruled by rapacious and unscrupulous criminals, who only know how to “lie, cheat, and steal”, according to Mike Pompeo, who conveniently left out the ”destroy and murder” part.

            I think that they literally are unable to think or act any other way.

            Pirates gonna pirate.

          • Anthea October 1, 2023 at 7:17 pm #

            @ Paula D:

            I suppose I’m hoping for the whole thing to blow up on them. I wish I knew more about history in a more detailed kind of way–as in, what happened to the Roman ruling class, when everything went terminally sideways? Apparently, just being among the Roman ruling class in the best of times was pretty high-risk, as well as sounding generally unpleasant. I wonder what happens to Wall Street moguls, bank presidents (or whatever they are), and federal government officials, when the money dies—as in Weimar Germany? Someone must know.

            Maybe we are much better of to be “little people.” That way, when the whole thing blows up, we won’t be right on top.

  21. DaveO907 September 29, 2023 at 11:32 am #

    Riding the Doom Loop.

    Can’t say things have not gotten interesting.
    I’m calling for it to implode in the next month or two. October has always been a signal month on Wall Street.
    Not expecting a big bang, rather more a vacuum-like snuffing as the air pressure differential goes ballistic along with most people walking around deafened, confused, bewildered and gulping like goldfish on dry land.

    Just a feeling I have, and one that grows stronger with each passing hour.

    • OG September 29, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

      CLAIM: An emergency broadcast system test on Oct. 4 will send a signal to cell phones nationwide in order to activate nanoparticles such as graphene oxide that have been introduced into people’s bodies.

      AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Next month’s test of the nationwide Emergency Alert System uses the same familiar audio tone that’s been in use since the 1960s to broadcast warnings across the country. A spokesperson for the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which is overseeing the test, also said there are no known adverse health effects from the signal. The claims revive long-debunked conspiracy theories about the contents of the COVID-19 vaccine.


      • Heartlander September 29, 2023 at 10:47 pm #

        These “long-debunked conspiracy theories” I’m ways hearing about — who debunked them, exactly, and when?

        They never say.

        They just slap the “long-debunked conspiracy theory” on anything they don’t like, and that’s the final word. No argument, evidence, or debate. Just sit down and shut up and take your medicine.

    • Ron Anselmo September 29, 2023 at 12:11 pm #

      Dave – correct you are, sir, as usual. We’ll be able to see who’s swimming naked. Should be almost to a one, even the ones who’ve pretended to be able to afford bathing suits.

      • cowbell81 September 29, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

        I will have my idiot phone turned off that day. I may even just leave it in the car.

        • Islander September 29, 2023 at 2:11 pm #

          Put it in a Faraday Box.

          And climb into the box after it . . .

          • OG September 29, 2023 at 2:46 pm #

            If you do not have a Faraday Box, put it in your microwave oven.

        • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 4:01 pm #

          Won’t it just come on when you reactivate your phone?

          • Billy Hill September 29, 2023 at 4:28 pm #

            Not if you set the microwave on high for 5 minutes.

          • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 4:55 pm #

            Ah. Thanks for the tip.

          • Ron Anselmo September 29, 2023 at 5:34 pm #

            Billy – some are suggesting 10 minutes, just to make sure.

          • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 7:38 pm #

            Always best to be sure.

    • messianicdruid September 29, 2023 at 4:45 pm #

      Thanksgiving is the next four-day weekend.

      • Not_GeorgeT September 30, 2023 at 7:26 am #

        Roughly 8 weeks remaining.

        Pass the popcorn.

  22. RD3 September 29, 2023 at 11:38 am #

    Imagine what real unemployment would be if the incompetent weren’t herded into the military or other government work.

    • oldandtired September 29, 2023 at 8:50 pm #

      Imagine what real unemployment would be if incompetent weren’t herded into Congress or other government work.

      Yah, there is that…….

    • Anthea October 1, 2023 at 10:38 am #


      Up until around 2000, there was a high demand for clerical and secretarial workers. Whole armies of workers were needed to manage paper file systems, and type up invoices, letters, reports, and minutes to meetings. Up until then, a woman who was at least a reasonably fast typist was guaranteed a job. Computers made most of these jobs obsolete. There also used to be quite a high demand for workers to answer the phones, but phone-mail systems largely did away with that need, and much of the rest was outsourced. That did away with a lot of the employment prospects for young women and liberal arts majors.

      Up until the 70s, retail stores employed so many people that customers used to actually complain about being pestered by store employees following them around, inquiring, “May I help you?”

      Starting in the 70s, the state and federal government, and, to a lesser extent, th county governments, began to absorb many of these people. And city governments, especially, began employing large numbers of blacks.

      It’s disturbing to think how many people are now employed by government or in health care. I think it’s estimated that about 20% of the workforce works in health care, and the total for people employed by government at one level or another is also almost 20%.

      The main reason it’s disturbing is because a rapidly declining dollar could put an end the the government’s ability to fund these things. This could throw nearly half the workforce out of work. And there are many other enterprises that only exist due to government subsidies and various other forms of government intrusion into the marketplace.

      You’d see the same kinds of problems with state secession–which, for one thing, means there would be much resistance to state secession.

    • RD3 September 29, 2023 at 11:46 am #

      I was going to say it was probably a Muslim, but if that were the case, the police wouldn’t have any suspects and would never make an arrest.

      • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

        Almost seems like a two-man job.

        • Not_GeorgeT September 30, 2023 at 7:34 am #

          Seems like a very clean cut.

          Not a typical drive-by act of opportunity.

      • Amman September 29, 2023 at 12:06 pm #

        Traditionally, vandalism is more your culture.

        • RD3 September 29, 2023 at 12:08 pm #

          What is my culture?

          • Amman October 1, 2023 at 4:35 pm #

            Your culture, Ace.

          • RD3 October 1, 2023 at 9:07 pm #

            Sparkling riposte, fag.

        • Jarek September 29, 2023 at 12:32 pm #

          Am: What do you think of Meatball and the Philly looting?

          Just more justice for George Floyd, right?

          • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 12:43 pm #

            Let us give credit.
            They know the emperor has no clothes, and no teeth.
            They’re taking before the collapse.

            The question should be what is everyone else waiting for?

            Let them have their sneakers and iLeashes. Petty crimes for petty fools.

            When are we taking the yachts, the bank vaults (empty), the mansions, the office suites?

          • Jarek September 29, 2023 at 12:58 pm #

            So are ready to admit we should have kept the borders closed to the 3rd World?

            America had practically no immigration at all – even from Europe – for forty years. It can be done. We know because we did it. Thus everything you ever said to the contrary was wrong if not an overt lie.

            Then our fools in office sold us out under pressure from you folks.

          • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

            It is impossible to keep borders closed.
            Particularly in an expoitative economy like the US’s.

            It feeds off of poor desperate bodies.
            You cannot possibly be ignorant of this.

            But managing those fed to the low-skilled labor furnace was abandoned.

            It is a free for all.

            Again with the you folks. You should really tame your presumptions.

          • RD3 September 29, 2023 at 2:06 pm #

            Simply amazing. You should get a job with the US Chamber of Commerce.

          • Jarek September 29, 2023 at 2:15 pm #

            Impossible? Then how did we do it for forty years, building up the greatest economy on Earth?

            Don’t deny the fact. Explain it or give up your disproven theorem.

          • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 2:41 pm #

            Why must you always be obtuse?
            I do no understand why you embrace this tact.

            But, to brass tacks: your assertion is entirely untrue.

            “Practically” no immigration at all for forty years.

            Let’s start with “practically”. Very nebulous.

            Are you feining ignorance of run-away share-holder capitalism, executive suite compensation, vulture capitalism wealth extraction, exporting almost all manufacturing?

            That takes some kind of stupid.

          • Jarek September 29, 2023 at 2:45 pm #

            It’s a well known fact, loser. The borders were sealed for decades. A few guys brought back war brides. Booty!

            You’ve lost the debate. It can be done because it was done. Then we fell into confusion born of corruption. With Kennedy as their gentile front man, the Tribe pushed thru opening the borders to the 3rd World.

          • BackRowHeckler September 29, 2023 at 4:03 pm #

            Immigration into the US was essentially shut down 1926-1965.

            In 1959 President Eisenhower kicked off ‘Operation Wetback’, rounding up illegal Mexicans and sending them back to Mexico. Operation Wetback was a success, removing about 3 million people from the US who were here illegally.

          • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 4:09 pm #

            Well known fact.
            That’s not supported.

            I can tell you never engaged in any serious competition.
            The sportsman’s variety.
            The way you boast and try to claim petty victories.

            You’re an effeminate twerp behind a keyboard. And not even good at that.

            Go pet your fucking cat joto

            Uscis (dot)gov/about-us/our-history/overview-of-agency-history/post-war-years

          • RD3 September 29, 2023 at 4:15 pm #


            You’re incorrect. You’ve lost the argument, and you’re a huge fag, to boot.

          • messianicdruid September 29, 2023 at 4:52 pm #

            “You should really tame your presumptions.”

            Not presumptions, chum.

          • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 5:12 pm #

            The “argument” for Jarek and his coterie of retards is that more immigration brought the decline of the U.S.

            This is what Jarek posits.

            Immigration of non-whites to be more specific.

            It is untrue.

            Jarek also posits that there was practically no immigration in post war U.S.

            Also untrue.
            What do you morons think Bracero was?
            It was allowing migration of cheap labor. They were migrants not counted as immigrants.
            Because politics.
            Your government lied to you.

            You morons do know that the Indians presently here on H1-B’s are on non-immigrant visas? Of course you don’t, because you’re fucking nitwits.

            They’re not immigrants..
            Because politics.
            You can’t read through government machinations because you don’t have the capacity.

            The decline was brought by greed. Mostly by the well bred whites that Jarek will never be accepted amongst. They’re not your people Jarek
            You don’t get it

          • Jarek September 30, 2023 at 2:05 am #

            I’m right. You’re wrong. I won. You lost. I’m not smarter than you, I “just” had the Truth on my side, at least in this case.

            Oh that, you mutter darkly.

        • Anthea October 1, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

          @ Amman:

          There was never much problem with vandalism, even in the cities, when the country was segregated. There is still scarcely any problem with vandalism in rural and small-town white America.

          • Amman October 1, 2023 at 4:36 pm #

            Rural and small town America is not the world.

          • Anthea October 1, 2023 at 6:45 pm #

            @ Amman:

            Rural and small-town America is the culture of Americans of European descent. You could certainly find fault with it, and so could I, since that’s where I grew up.

            The people wreaking havoc around the world are not us, and the people pulling the strings to involve us in it are, for the most part, not people of our culture and heritage. (I’m going with the, “All wars are bankers’ wars,” point of view.) We’ve done too little to stop them and have been too willing to serve them–mostly out of ignorance and often out of greed. I grew up in the town nearest Lake City Arsenal. If you worked for them, you could probably have a middle-class lifestyle. If you didn’t, your prospects were not so good. And woe to anyone who opposed the Viet Nam War, back in the sixties. No one wanted to hear any such thing, even if their sons (my classmates in school) were coming home in body bags.

            How do I feel about them and their culture? The WWII generation that supported all this is long dead. In that place and time, they had a lot of shortcomings, but I would not include an impulse to vandalism among them.

    • Slugoon September 29, 2023 at 12:32 pm #

      I did smirk at the press photos of police photographers snapping the tree, with face masks on. Why is everything just a bad joke.

      • stelmosfire September 29, 2023 at 8:50 pm #

        Quote from the wiki article about the felling of the historic tree:

        “The Northumberland National Park Authority said they believed it was done deliberately.”

        That’s some pretty good police work right there.


        • Q. Shtik September 30, 2023 at 4:38 pm #

          said they believed it was done deliberately.” – stelmo quoting wiki


          Hahaha, d’ya think?

      • Jarek September 30, 2023 at 2:06 am #

        What does the Tree symbolize to the popular Leftist mind? Any idea? Is the very concept of “ancient” now offensive?

    • PeteAtomic September 30, 2023 at 11:23 am #

      A “man in his 60s” has been arrested in connection to this.

  23. Why_weren't_we_asked_about_Degrowth September 29, 2023 at 11:49 am #

    Jim Jim

    Republican Senators have motioned to remove Rep. Sen. Colton Moore from the Republican Caucus because he is working to stop the trial on Donald Trump

    Please Explain

    Mitch McConnell says continuing to aid Ukraine is number 1 issue of all Republicans

    Please Explain how you have any faith in these people to do anything to help this country

  24. Why_weren't_we_asked_about_Degrowth September 29, 2023 at 11:51 am #

    Sorry, the first example is from the formally Red state of Georgia

    • RD3 September 29, 2023 at 12:02 pm #

      The speed at which Yankees and third-worlders took over Georgia and North Carolina is incredible.

      • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 12:46 pm #

        Didn’t Georgia start offering tax breaks to Hollywood? That’ll do it.

        • RD3 September 29, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

          Probably. The Yankees made their own dens unlivable, so they set out in search of new places to corrupt and destroy.

          • RD3 September 29, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

            Yankee conceit, egotism, and self-assuredness knows no bounds.

        • Jarek September 29, 2023 at 1:01 pm #

          Bery is a hardcore Yankee liberal turned Communist like most of her cohort. She likes to play at being “folks” – but she loves diversity and hates the cultural unity that stems from racial homogeneity.

          • RD3 September 29, 2023 at 1:39 pm #

            For people of that ilk, their affliction is so deep that a horde of Somalis could be gang-raping their wives and daughters and they would still argue for open borders. My mother’s family is cut from this cloth. They seamlessly transitioned from Covid masking and vaxxxxxxing obsession one day to “stand with Ukraine” the next day. If their cultural masters told them to get a swastika tattooed on their head “for Ukraine,” they would do it.

          • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 1:45 pm #

            OMG Jarek. Just where do you get that I’m a liberal?

            “Diversity” is code for hiring foreigners, mostly from India. I’ve been clear on that.

            My family has been in New York over 300 years, so have many of the black families we have lived alongside. That’s cultural unity.

          • RD3 September 29, 2023 at 1:54 pm #

            Does “lived alongside” mean that they lived in the quarters out back? 300 years ago, nearly any black person in New York was a slave.

          • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 2:09 pm #

            Slavery has been over for some time, RD. I haven’t lived near any slaves, neither did my parents or grandparents.

            Did you think New York was all plantations, three hundred years ago?

            My people did their own hard work.

            You should try reading more history books.

          • Jarek September 29, 2023 at 2:18 pm #

            Beryl: The Blacks were afraid of us. Justifiably so. Now they’re not – we’re afraid of them – and with good reason. Starting to get the picture?

            My favorite all time post on Amren was by a Black: They sure don’t make White people like they used to.

          • Islander September 29, 2023 at 2:18 pm #

            Looks like MUS has got an additional team member.

          • RD3 September 29, 2023 at 2:19 pm #

            300 years ago, if your ancestors lived alongside blacks in New York, they either owned them, or they themselves were slaves.

          • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 3:01 pm #

            RD that is just not so.

            BTW “living alongside” does not mean literally the house next door, you know that, don’t you?

            There were plenty of white people here who were leading basically self-sufficient lifestyles.

          • RD3 October 1, 2023 at 9:12 pm #

            I was hoping you were incorrect, but there are reams of evidence to support your assertion.

      • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 4:03 pm #

        Air conditioning.

        • RD3 October 1, 2023 at 9:13 pm #

          Its more that air conditioning.

          • RD3 October 1, 2023 at 9:14 pm #

            The Mississippi and Ohio River Valleys are oppressive for half the year, even north of the Mason Dixon.

  25. Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 11:56 am #

    This guy, Paul Sperry, says it is Hunter’s uncle who needs looking into:

    “MAKE NO MISTAKE: Jimmy Biden is both the mastermind and the muscle behind the Biden shakedown racket. Hunter is just the fast-talking front man, more or less a patsy in the operation”


  26. docmartin September 29, 2023 at 12:02 pm #

    In the words of my late father, “FUCK EM ALL!!”

  27. Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 12:08 pm #

    Since we are talking about debt, there are some people who still don’t understand the way many student loan debtors have been swindled.

    No, it isn’t just as simple as, you borrowed money, you pay it back. Not when you see other borrowers able to get out from under their mountains of debt, just not you.

    And the fact that are own government is taking steps to rob you of the value of that diploma you worked so hard for.

    This is just one of the ways, there are many:

    “To appease India, the US government will sell out its own American college graduates.

    The majority of these “students” aren’t coming here for the education, but for the work permit benefits (OPT/CPT program).

    To add further insult, the US government provides employers a payroll tax exemption for hiring these foreign-grads.”


    • cowbell81 September 29, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

      Just another way our government is able to “offshore” employment to the BIPOCs. Thanks!

    • Jarek September 29, 2023 at 12:49 pm #

      Real nations are mono-racial and mono-cultural and don’t have this problem.

      And under Fascism or National Socialism, any executive who offshored his jobs or insourced foreign labor would be declared a traitor.

      • gustafson.robert.22 September 29, 2023 at 2:37 pm #

        Real nations cannibalize themselves. Name one that hasn’t. Why is this?

        • Jarek September 29, 2023 at 2:42 pm #

          Real nations are first and foremost a People. Some groups have lasted for thousands of years – not just the Jews btw.

          The Irish have been a People for thousands of years. But under the influence of toxic liberalism, they are committing suicide. Most don’t want this, but they have no say because of “Democracy”.

          • gustafson.robert.22 September 29, 2023 at 2:56 pm #

            Jews and Irish aren’t even sovereign.

            Japanese and Chinese are overpopulated, weak and subservient, still. In fact, their early successes at “nationhood” sowed the seeds of the over-civilization that has rendered them weak and manipulable in the modern era.

            The Middle-East is a compromised nest of overcrowding and racial and cultural confusions.

            White nations are toast except some in the very northern regions where few can survive without the luxuries of heating tech and industrial shipping and trade.

            The only semi-intact “Peoples” are the remnants of the primitives…

          • gustafson.robert.22 September 29, 2023 at 3:35 pm #

            Actually the only thing that still gives Jews and Irish some faint vestige of “People”-hood is preserved connections to their primitivity in comparison to other nations. The Irish becausd they were last to be civilized in the region, and the Jews because diaspora-hardship and religious practice preserved primitive elements over 2000 years.

          • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 4:52 pm #

            Irish were shitting in the corners of their peat thatched hovels until modern times.

            The Romans took one look at them and the wastelands they were forced to inhabit before being pushed off the continent and decided they were too primitive for civilization.

            Name an Irishman of accomplishment in math or science.

            Name any accomplishments.

            You’ll need a bouquet of 4 leaf clovers.

            This is why Jarek hates blacks, the only people lower than the Irish.

          • messianicdruid September 29, 2023 at 6:08 pm #

            Amish – the last intact Israelite Tribe.

          • Soul Forensics September 29, 2023 at 11:06 pm #

            “White nations are toast except some in the very northern regions where few can survive without the luxuries of heating tech and industrial shipping and trade.” — Gus

            The Finns, as serfs for most of the last 500 years, first from the indifferent Russians and then from punitive Sweden, survived brutal winters and wars without central heating and many other contemporary givens. They also survived and recovered (though were temporally decimated) by the Great Famine of 1866-8, in which the cruel Swedes ignored their pleas for help. During none of this were they sovereign, but they were damn well a people, fuck the political designation for it. Even before independence, they quickly got up to speed when given some of the reins, and have thrived after official nationhood ever since (though, of course, being affected by the WEF/woke plague, along with every other Western nation.)

            God bless Finland! — home of my brave forebears (and who kicked major shit out of the Soviets until the numbers finally overcame them). What are the puny hearts of self-styled bureaucrats and money-grubbers to a collective will, a common culture?

            Cynics will say all group cultures are permanently poisoned now. That we’re all too soft from tech and resources o’ plenty. I don’t buy it. Tough times will happen soon enough again, but the human spirit, and the inherent individual and group dynamic, will prevail. We did it before the oil bonanza, and we’ll prevail again.

          • Jarek September 30, 2023 at 2:10 am #

            I’ve heard Finland is still controlled by a Swedish Elite in Finland. Thus any Finns who rise into the Elite invariably become like the occupiers.

          • Jarek September 30, 2023 at 2:13 am #

            100: So who are the highest people? Don’t hold back now! Tell us your truth.

            Or are you just angry because I defeated you above? If I’m of the lowest, what does that make you?

            And the Blacks are even lower? Racist!

          • gustafson.robert.22 September 30, 2023 at 3:19 am #


            Finland does sound pretty blessed, although I’m sure the loss of shipping and heating would be extremely trying and numbers-depleting for them now.

            I only used lack of soveriegnty as a negative here because without it you’re not really a Nation-State, which I suggest are inherently self-compromising structures.

            Lack of sovereignty (lack of intact Nation-State formation) actually seems to contribute positively to a group’s “Peoplehood” status, in general.

          • Soul Forensics September 30, 2023 at 4:28 am #


            Finns and Swedes are oil and water. You should think more deeply, have more faith, regarding the ramifications of your own support of quality-of-culture. Finns, like all long-standing beleaguered peoples, have long memories. They’re a blunt, honest ethnic type. I know. I’m intimately involved with them, have been my entire life. Every one has been honest to a fault. So why bring politicians into the mix? They’re not representative of the people.

            Gov’t BY the people (and not in a democratic sense) will always supersede gov’t FOR the people. You disagree? What? You’re a defeatist? Of so little faith? To what aim is all your energetic lifelong forum typing good for if you don’t believe Whites — and more specifically in this example, a small subset of Whites — can overcome the opportunists in any gov’t capacity? Or, worse, have you given up hope that they’re redeemable? Why, then, try to change minds at all?

            “Time’s flies”, Shakespeare’s Timon called the current PTB. “Minute-jacks.”

            They have their day and are heard no more.

          • Soul Forensics September 30, 2023 at 4:40 am #


            Yes, the squalid political build-out after sovereignty is always a problem. But it’s easier to deal with than people of the land who have no representation and protection at all from their own at the top of a hierarchy. Hence, Finland’s tragic history until the 20th century.

            If I’m going to be shot, I’d rather it be by a neighbour I knew than by a Mitchell C pirate.

          • PeteAtomic September 30, 2023 at 10:10 am #

            “Amish – the last intact Israelite Tribe.’


            almost 1 million Amish by 2050

            maybe Janos has hope for a wife yet



          • Anthea October 1, 2023 at 1:52 pm #

            @ 100th Avatar:

            I think my favorite quote about the Irish is Chesterton’s: “The great Gaels of Ireland are the men that God made mad, for all their wars are merry and all their songs are sad.”

            You do have to admit that the Irish are quite musical. Lots of amazing vocals, harp, and fiddle music. I’m a fan of Altan’s female singer, whose name I can’t pronounce (or remember).

            Thomas Moore wrote “The Last Rose of Summer” and “Silent O Moyle.” Yeats wrote “The Lake Isle of Innisfree.”

            A number of years ago, there was a book published, called, “How the Irish Saved Civilization.” I didn’t actually read it, but it’s about Irish monks preserving Latin texts over the centuries, translating them and keeping “the fires of Christian learning alight during the Dark Ages, after the fall of the Roman Empire.” So you have to give them that.

          • Anthea October 1, 2023 at 2:01 pm #

            @ 100th Avatar:

            Re the Romans thinking the Irish were too primitive to bother with, the truth is, the Romans thought just about everyone was either too primitive to bother with or too primitive to ignore. They were of the opinion that the Germans could not be civilized, and should be exterminated whenever opportunity offered. There was some British ruler, during Roman times, who expressed some surprise that the Romans would take an interest in their mud huts (clay and wattle).

            In “I Claudius,” Claudius comments that conquering the British wasn’t worth the trouble, as, “Their women are not seductive,” and the men made poor-quality slaves, because all they were fit for was farm labor. (The Greek slaves were often highly educated.) “I, Claudius” is historical fiction, but the author is Robert Graves, so I think we can assume that it is, in the main, authentic.

          • Anthea October 1, 2023 at 2:24 pm #

            @ PeteAtomic:

            I think we can write off the idea of Jarek snagging an Amish wife. The Amish men are industrious farmers and construction workers, as well as often being shrewd (and industrious businessmen). Jarek can’t support himself, let alone a wife and twelve kids.

        • 100th Avatar September 30, 2023 at 10:03 am #

          You consider them lower Jaego-ff
          The only people you have confidence in belittling.
          Everyone knows that.

          You and your trivial narcissism.
          What did you win?

          You’re too caught up in your own narrative to ADMIT that the government imported millions of Latinos post WW2 in the Bracero program, but since they called it a non immigrant program the government, for a time got away with it.
          Dolts like you believed the narrative.

          What do you think Operation Wetback was? It was a political decision to deal with the fact that millions of laborers IMMIGRATED to the US, and politics and elections demanded repair of the charade.

          You’re so damn thick.
          It’s painful

          • Jarek September 30, 2023 at 1:28 pm #

            If they had been legal immigrants, they’d still be here. But they were workers brought in or allowed to come while the troops were away.

            When the Whites came back, they had to go! This is the right way to deal with temporary foreign workers.

            And yes, they had a high crime rate just like the Mexicans of today. Undesirables, troublemakers just like you guys.

            You need to accept that you have been defeated. Until you do, you will remain, “The Defeated One”.

          • 100th Avatar September 30, 2023 at 1:56 pm #


            You’re losing.

            The small battles and the war.
            Hubris and ignorance.
            That’s what you’ve won.

            Enjoy your downfall

        • PeteAtomic September 30, 2023 at 10:11 am #

          “Name any accomplishments.”


          • 100th Avatar September 30, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

            That is maybe second behind child rape under cover of the church.

    • Hated American September 30, 2023 at 11:12 pm #

      That’s been going on for decades. My husband could not get hired as a garbage man out of high school because they had to hire blacks. Then the same thing happened at the machine shops, with the added issue of eastern European men being USG subsidized to immigrate in and take shop jobs (very few blacks could do the machining, pre-CNC). He was told that it was cheaper to hire 2 of them than one American man because the gov’t was paying for them. He finally got a break driving a truck, then learning machining from some very bright small business owners. After that he was recruited and never had to apply for a job (he has a lot of German heritage, and was a gifted machinist). The Eastern Europeans would work the long days and refuse to strike. When they did strike, they settled cheaply, and considered themselves lucky.

  28. Amman September 29, 2023 at 12:15 pm #

    In short, Piden Impeachment and Govt Shutdown…

    Then some type of incredible hope about competent actors in Congress saving the day.

    Meantime, Bio-Pharma complex is out there and Ukraine war potential to expand into NATO lands simmers.

  29. RCAnderson September 29, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

    Will someone PLEASE put the NY Times out of its (our) misery! God, it makes me ill.

    • cowbell81 September 29, 2023 at 12:27 pm #

      New masthead:

      “All the news that’s fit to print, and wipe your ass with.”

      • OG September 29, 2023 at 1:29 pm #

        All the news that we can fit down your throat.

        All the news that fits your bird-cage.

        All the news to give you fits.

        Judith Miller. For shame.

        • messianicdruid September 29, 2023 at 6:14 pm #


  30. Nigel Tufnel September 29, 2023 at 12:32 pm #

    Ever since the 2020 “election”, I’ve been searching for what possible solutions there might be.
    #1 was always Secure the Vote. As it currently stands, Dominion is picking those who supposedly represent us. I don’t recall an effort on the part of Republicans to return the vote to the people. Until we go back to hand written, hand counted, with strict voter ID, there is no hope.

    • Ron Anselmo September 29, 2023 at 1:49 pm #

      Yes Nigel. Votes that are hand-written, hand-counted, with strict voter ID will help in picking those who supposedly represent us.

      Not trying to be a smartass, but do you see the problem here?

      • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 4:09 pm #

        I do! Lobbyists.

        • Ron Anselmo September 30, 2023 at 12:58 am #

          Nope. The problem – common denominator, if you will – is that whoever is elected, and how, will “supposedly represent us”. Same as it ever was.

          • Ron Anselmo September 30, 2023 at 1:17 am #

            Maybe if we vote really hard, it’ll help – now I’m being a smartass.

  31. cowbell81 September 29, 2023 at 12:34 pm #

    And now they are of course using the age-old claim that the storm flooding NYC is all because of “global warming”. A video I saw showed water leaking in all through the tiled walls of the subway. Maybe perhaps if they upgraded their drainage system they would not have so many flooding problems??? Just saying, there could be more causes to this that “global warming”. Heavy storms are nothing more than a natural cycle.

    • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 12:50 pm #

      Governments don’t like to spend the money they steal from you on nuts and bolts things like infrastructure.

      They need it for patronage jobs to reward their supporters.

      Note that at the same time they want to push the common folk out of cars, they are allowing the public transportation to go all to hell.

      • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 1:18 pm #

        Trolley/street cars were replaced by personally owned vehicles.
        Because money was to be made.

        Surface public transit (busses) and personally owned vehicles will be replaced by ride-sharing and subscription based fleets.

        Because that is where the money will be made.

        Serdom 2.0 for the perpetual renter class.

    • Islander September 29, 2023 at 2:26 pm #

      Why do they use that obnoxious phrase “shelter in place” instead of just “Stay home” or “Stay inside.”

      • OG September 29, 2023 at 2:35 pm #

        To scare the sh!t out of the 0s, 1s and 2s, of course.

      • gustafson.robert.22 September 29, 2023 at 2:36 pm #

        (Putting Astros cap on)

        “We gonna shelter on the move today, boys”

      • Not_GeorgeT September 30, 2023 at 7:49 am #

        They like obnoxious terms.

        ‘Lockdown’ is a prison word.

        No coincidences.

  32. 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 12:39 pm #

    Reports that the DOJ are funding a “disinformation” bureau that fuels racial injusttice claims against black victims, but also douses racial injustice claims by white victims.

    More evidence of the democratic party enraging blacks to spur them to the voting booth, and more propaganda to keep imbecilic white liberal women believing everything is fine with the party of chaos.

    Although they’re engulfed in an inferno. Like that doodle of a dog surrounded by flames.

    Everything is fine.

  33. loosethedogs September 29, 2023 at 12:41 pm #

    Add i8n some Directed Energy Weapon destruction ’round the globe and you have a grand cosmic murder mystery wrapped in an enigma. U.S. politics is just a piece of this jigsaw puzzle.

    • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 1:07 pm #

      Energy weapons.

      Like Zeuss & Apollo.

      Loose the dogs Higgens

    • Night Owl September 29, 2023 at 7:06 pm #

      Is there any hard evidence whatsoever for the use of DEWs? Somthing sane, and not a long rant from the likes of OG?

      This stuff was also floated during 9/11, though the evidence is rather clear that the buildings were simply wired to blow.

      • Not_GeorgeT September 30, 2023 at 7:54 am #

        The tree guy (forget his name) who has videos showing various locations with focus on the trees. Externally still lush with leaves amidst metal ash. He shows them burned from the inside. it is not the way normal fire works.

        • Night Owl September 30, 2023 at 3:15 pm #

          I have seen some of that, but some were saying the same thing after 9/11, doing the whole melted-cars-located-many-blocks-away thing.

          And the towers were, IMO, clearly taken with explosives.

          • Not_GeorgeT October 2, 2023 at 9:13 am #

            I really haven’t looked at melted cars after 9/11, so can’t comment.

            Agree controlled demolition job.

      • gustafson.robert.22 September 30, 2023 at 10:07 am #

        Wasn’t there an Australian example used on Covid protesters, according to some?

      • Amman September 30, 2023 at 4:03 pm #

        DEW’s, if they exist, would be classified as advanced weapons.

        Why would someone in the military loan out such a weapon to turn on a small city in Hawaii?

        • Night Owl September 30, 2023 at 6:17 pm #

          In addition, the scale of destruction is like something out of a movie. The weapon required for such destruction would be something quite impressive.

          Which is another red flag that the whole thing is bollocks.

          I do not find it unreasonable to believe that power-line maintenence was mismanaged, etc., in order to grab valuable land for the parasite class.

          • Amman October 1, 2023 at 4:38 pm #

            Mind you, I still smell a rat. An enormous one.

  34. 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 12:48 pm #

    I am unsure of the veracity, but it appears that an ABC reporter who debunked Pizzagate (a child expoitation conspiracy set in DC) may face life in prison for, well, you can guess.

    • Blackbird September 29, 2023 at 8:39 pm #

      My guess would be un-debunking Pizzagate.

      If he/she/it were accused of child exploitation, all of DC would be rallying to its defense, and it would receive a high level cabinet position rather than a prosecution.

  35. TPTB-USA September 29, 2023 at 1:25 pm #

    “… or whether we must make other arrangements.” ~ JHK

    It’s tough to make other arrangements when all the prudent options have been used or expired, and the only option left is a one-way ticket to tough times.

    • OG September 29, 2023 at 1:43 pm #

      Indeed. So let’s roll-up our sleeves.

      • TPTB-USA October 1, 2023 at 1:17 pm #

        OG, one needs to comprehend the problem/s before one can get to work.

        Blackbird, what came first, the chicken or the egg (UN Vision 2030, or Qatar Vision 2030)?

        Vision 2030 may refer to:

        Abu Dhabi Vision 2030, a set of strategic policies for the development of the Emirate
        Egypt Vision 2030, a strategic national agenda to achieve sustainable development
        Kenya Vision 2030, a medium-term development programme
        Qatar National Vision 2030, a plan to enable sustainable development
        Saudi Vision 2030, a plan to reduce the country’s dependence on oil


        UN VISION 2030

        Why is so little understood about any of this?

        My bet is that the majority of nonsense relates to the 2030 Agenda.

        September 30, 2020
        Menendez Introduces Legislation to Boost U.S.-India Clean Energy and Climate Cooperation



        Plenty of our money to play with. Is the SMO to skim off some to give to public representatives to facilitate/accelerate implementation of the 2030 coup?

        • Blackbird October 1, 2023 at 8:58 pm #

          TPTB, the UN’s Vision 2030 was unveiled in 2015. While Qatar’s Vision 2030 dates back to 2008, I think the UN is the chicken. When everybody else started bragging about their 2030 Vision, it seemed obvious to me that it was all coordinated.

  36. tom clark September 29, 2023 at 2:04 pm #

    Secession to what? That is the question. Another blob?

    • Disaffected September 29, 2023 at 4:46 pm #

      To Minnetonka?

    • PeteAtomic September 30, 2023 at 10:04 am #

      Hi Tom


      maybe smaller one in St. Paul

      if u want Walz to be our President, which I don’t. I’m sure if we go independent, it’d be some DFL functionary anyway

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder October 1, 2023 at 11:18 am #

        I can’t wait for Walz to be a “former”.

        He only won office again because the metro voters didn’t pay any attention whatsoever (and still don’t), and he refused to debate, or even visit anywhere out-state during the campaign. He would have been decimated, and he knew that.

        The guy literally gave over Uptown to the Floyd rioters, let them light fires in dumpsters under 100 yr-old trees in innocent residential neighborhoods with families inside wondering what they should do, loot retail stores in broad daylight, as well as burn down a fucking police precinct on national TV (which still hasn’t been rebuilt to this day, btw).

        I have plenty of friends who have no idea the sheer amount of worthless, harmful BS the “legislature” passed this spring while spending the entire one-time 18B surplus in 4 months, plus adding another 9B in extra debt just for fun…to fund DEI and CRT, 6 months paid time off if you claim medical leave (which no one will take advantage of, I’m sure…Feeding Our Future, anyone?), and elevating illegal immigrants and felons to royalty citizen status.

        And…it’s Minnesota, so to the city-dwellers with cul-de-sac homes in Edina, EV SUVs, big yards and cushy jobs, that watch KSTP and read the Star Tribune like it’s the Bible, the DFL are the good guys no matter what. Cuz mom and dad said so in 1983. Even though most of the rest of the state disagrees entirely.

        Walz is a hobbit. But dangerous, because he says yes to everything stupid and declares it’s for the greater good.

        The upside for the country – he has the charisma of a potholder. So any presidential aspirations he may satisfy himself to in his Toyota Corolla in the garage at night while crying are laughable at best.

        (P.S. Not sure if it came across, but…I don’t like Walz.)

  37. cowbell81 September 29, 2023 at 2:06 pm #

    I take back my above comment:

    House approves bill providing $300 million in aid to Ukraine

    “Lawmakers voted 311-117 to approve the funding, with more than 100 Republicans joining all Democrats in approving the measure. Some 117 Republicans voted against the measure, including Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) who has been a vocal critic about providing additional aid to the wartorn country.”

    Note to all readers here: Those that voted in favor of giving more of our hard-earned American dollars, further diluting their value, need to be lined up against a brick wall and systematically eliminated.

    • Disaffected September 29, 2023 at 3:13 pm #

      Uniparty strikes again! They’re all smoke and mirrors.

  38. Roundball Shaman September 29, 2023 at 2:38 pm #

    “no amount of political blustering will bring this gaslit nation into daylight when there is no more money and no more credit… to feed the blob that ate our government.”

    But this Gaslighter Government has done a masterful job of keeping afloat what has essentially been a financially bankrupt country for decades. That’s some kind of gaslighting wizardry… plus the ‘legal’(!?) ability to create fake money straight out of empty air. The very best magicians in Vegas have nothing on these Economic Slight-of-hand-and-pull-fake-money-out-of-a-rabbit’s-ass-hat conjurers.

    This just goes to prove how powerful the spinning of sanctioned codified lies and financial fairy fantasies can take you long after the Car Engine of State has long run out of real and actual fuel. With no real gas stations for the next thousand miles.

    “… two rather momentous issues juxtaposed… Neither battle is going all that well for the minority of citizens who want to live in a pro-reality society.”

    With so many members of our Nations’s recent generations being born into perpetual infancy and a fierce personal resistance to ever becoming a mature adult… the majority of our Nation’s citizenry just can’t handle the responsibilities that come with actual consequences… and ‘growing up’. Why grow up when that is… HARD! And it’s so nice to spend all day clutching your magic box of mesmerizing pixels in one hand… and your warm blankey in the other. Hard realities and solutions that require sacrifice have no chance to ever see the light of day. Plus, the additional gaslighting by the Dark State Media to constantly keep us all in perpetual fear, weakness, and neediness.

    “The New York Times pushed the leitmotif of their narrative this morning: there’s no evidence that ‘Joe Biden’ committed any impeachable offenses.”

    Of course Mr. Resident did not commit any impeachable offenses. The Democrat majority has already declared this so… regardless of any real and smoking-gun evidence that leaks out from heavily-fortified-under-the-rug-sweeping that might unintentionally and rudely appear.

    The Mighty Dark State has declared that all our Nation’s problems are at the foot of one man… just one ‘evil’ man. Period. And he’s not The Resident. That stench is fully loose in the Fouled Air of our Twisted Times and thus it shall be written in woke and misinformation-itized history accounts that will be taught to tomorrow’s preschoolers who take a short break of learning how all White People are all evil and that Wokeism is god incarnate on the Earth.

    “The weeks ahead will inform us if there’s anything that can be salvaged of our federal government or whether we must make other arrangements.”

    There was a masterful and under-appreciated comic in the ‘60s and ‘70s named David Frye. He was really funny and did great imitations of famous people. He did one of LBJ in the Sixties in which the disgraced MIC-loving President-Poser had to address the American People with the sad news… ‘The United States of America is going to have… a going out of Business Sale!…’.

    Mind you, this was back over 50 years ago. It was appropriate to say then… and even more so, now. Either intentionally or not, United States Incorporated (a Bankrupt Governmental Corporation) is going to have an… interesting future.

    • beantownbill. September 29, 2023 at 3:56 pm #

      I still have David Frye’s LP about Richard Nixon. It was very funny. He was under-appreciated, imo.

      Interesting that I was thinking about that album 2 days ago.

  39. Islander September 29, 2023 at 2:39 pm #

    Best flooding videos have been collated by The Guardian:


    I wonder how the EVs are doing.

    I wonder how the migrants are doing.

    • cowbell81 September 29, 2023 at 2:55 pm #

      I loved the one with the “waterfall” cascading so beautifully down the steps of a Brooklyn park.

      What people fail to realize is that NYC is nothing more than a low-lying island. Of course it is going to be prone to flooding like this, especially when the storm sewers haven’t been updated or cleaned in a century, and when all the surfaces have been turned into concrete and asphalt.

      This is one way to flush out all the dirty illegal immigrant rats that are flooding our country.

      • Islander September 29, 2023 at 6:13 pm #

        The central core of Manhattan is bedrock.

        “The bedrock that anchors Manhattan’s skyscrapers was formed between 450 million and over a billion years ago. Manhattan is built on three strata known as Manhattan Schist, Inwood Marble, and Fordham Gneiss.”

        Not all of Manhattan is low-lying.

        But when you cover a whole peninsula (except for Central Park) with asphalt and other impermeable materials, what do you expect?

        I used to live at the bottom of a hill in Somerville, Mass. Obviously, the street was black-topped. In addition, all of the driveways and the parking areas behind the driveways were black-topped. So of course when there was a heavy rain all the water just rushed down the street.

        Into our basement. .

        Where a sump pump that pumped it back onto the street . . .

        • Islander September 29, 2023 at 6:50 pm #

          Manhattan actually means “Island of Many Hills.”


    • 100th Avatar September 29, 2023 at 4:43 pm #

      The rio grande flows north

  40. jim September 29, 2023 at 2:47 pm #

    “Understand no amount of political blustering will bring this great nation into daylight when there is no money and no more credit and no feasible way to feed the blob that ate our government.”

    If the populist impulse is to grow, it is also imperative that we do not engage in our own type of political blustering because of a misreading or mis-diagnosis of the significant unappreciated flexibility of the totalitarian apparatus that has been constructed to contain us.

    The Federal Reserve, our intelligence community, and our military/surveillance networks, which now collectively rule our lives, all have significant levers of power to maintain control, even in the face of what may appear, from our individual perspectives, as an accelerating social collapse.

    My core assumption (of which I am open to be proven wrong) is the following:

    Our Federal Reserve, with its unique alliance of public-private interests, has the power and instruments to make available whatever money or credit is necessary to bail out the blob, the military surveillance apparatus, or our private financial/corporate institutions both domestically and internationally.

    In other words, they can create/supply the necessary money-credit floor to thwart complete political and economic collapse.

    • OG September 29, 2023 at 2:52 pm #

      They can until they can’t. BRICS will crash the US$ one day.

  41. Jarek September 29, 2023 at 2:52 pm #

    Did everyone watch the movie, Don’t Look Up? Remember the last supper scene, where DiCaprio says, We really did have it all, just before the lights go out and a couple of seconds later, 750 mile an hour winds obliterate the scene.

    • cowbell81 September 29, 2023 at 2:57 pm #

      No, that film panders to the climate change scare-mongers. Nothing but more worthless trash made by Hollywood and Leonardo.

      • Disaffected September 29, 2023 at 3:12 pm #

        That one was an asteroid scare porn, if aging memory serves correct. Pretty typical Hollywood shlock.

        • cowbell81 September 29, 2023 at 3:24 pm #

          Yes, but according to my research on the film they used the asteroid impact as symbolism for the whole climate change scare.

      • Jarek September 29, 2023 at 3:16 pm #

        It was very funny and well made in any case.

  42. PeteAtomic September 29, 2023 at 2:59 pm #

    Your blog post illustrates the Heart of Darkness wrapped around the Empire of Lies, there Jim:
    As Elon Musk posted on his X this morning reflecting on the bond market– (paraphrasing) “late Empire vibes this morning”…….

    Who/what runs the World? I humbly propose the Truth lives in 2 recent simple but extremely illuminating stories (amongst others):

    A 98 year old 14th Waffen SS soldier is applauded in the Canadian Parliament recently, as a “….Canadian hero, and an Ukrainian hero” by the Speaker of Parliament. The SS man stands and waves triumphantly to this assembled group of collective West politicians.

    Marina Abramovic, an artist & satanist, infamous for her “soul cooking” rituals, amongst other oddities, has been hired by the Kiev government to assist in rebuilding the Ukrainian educational system.

    Nazis & satanists.

    President Putin needs to add “de-nazification of the collective West” as one of the goals of the SMO.

    • Blackbird September 29, 2023 at 8:34 pm #

      “President Putin needs to add ‘de-nazification of the collective West’ as one of the goals of the SMO.”

      That would be an excellent way to make sure that war never ends.

      That is the type of claim our demagogues make.

      • PeteAtomic September 30, 2023 at 10:03 am #


        Pres. Putin kinda is, in a way. The reconquest of Novo Russiya is drawing all types of collective West adventurers, madmen, extremists , lunatics, and CIA spooks into the meat grinder.

    • Amman September 30, 2023 at 4:39 pm #

      For years, the west has been hunting Nazis for war crimes and bringing them to trial, deportation, prison.. etc.

      Now all of a sudden they find a 96 years old Nazi, Waffen SS trooper no less, and applaud him.

      I can’t connect these 2 dots.

      • Paula D October 1, 2023 at 1:55 pm #

        They never seriously hunted Nazis.

        They brought hundreds of thousands over on the ratline, and only sent a few back.

        Now that they are openly supporting Nazis in Ukraine, and the population was waving Ukrainian flags, they thought it was safe to come out in the open.

        Oops! It turned out that a lot of the population was still anti-Nazi, left over from when their fathers fought in WW2.
        The only reason they were waving those flags is because they are stupid, and easily fooled.

        But cheering a Waffen SS vet was a bit much, even for them.

  43. dorn September 29, 2023 at 3:06 pm #

    “Operation Wetback”

  44. cowbell81 September 29, 2023 at 3:07 pm #

    Russia will stage its first nationwide nuclear attack exercise across 11 time zones in preparation for potential nuclear war.

    It is scheduled to take place on October 3 and will see Vladimir Putin’s regime present the West as a nuclear aggressor.

    So…..maybe this is why our US government is doing that emergency alert test thing on October 4? They are mind fucking us.

    • Disaffected September 29, 2023 at 3:10 pm #

      Interesting. And US.GOV will also likely be in shutdown, for whatever that’s worth. A trifecta of sorts.

  45. Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 3:23 pm #

    This hit piece from Mediaite claims that RFK Jr. will announce his third-party candidacy on October 9 in Pennsylvania.


    • Night Owl September 29, 2023 at 7:03 pm #

      He’s just sunk himself.

      I, too, once believed a third-party candidate could win, casting a vote for Nader.

      That was the last vote I cast. Though Trump was tempting, but too much overseas paperwork.

      • Blackbird September 29, 2023 at 8:23 pm #

        RFK jr. never had a chance.

        Running as a Democrat? They will destroy him.

        Running as an “independent”? Everyone else will pitch in to destroy him.

        So, why is he “running”?

        Is he naive? I don’t think so. How could he be?

        I know a lot of people are looking for a savior, but I’m pretty sure RFK jr. (or for that matter, anyone else) isn’t it.

        As if we can “vote” our way out of this.

        • Night Owl September 30, 2023 at 3:12 pm #

          I do think he had and has a chance, but not alone, and not as an indy or Repub.

  46. OG September 29, 2023 at 3:25 pm #

    Have you ever noticed that people who dismiss, out of hand, DEWs and weather-control (on account of nothing other then their incredulity) also believe that NASA put two dozen men on the moon by launching soup cans at it in the late 1960s and early 1970s?

    • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 4:14 pm #

      Good one, OG.

    • Night Owl September 29, 2023 at 4:48 pm #

      No not really.

      • OG September 29, 2023 at 5:28 pm #

        What is your GLT score, Zilch Nada?

        • Night Owl September 29, 2023 at 5:34 pm #

          You literally have no idea what a fucking nut you are.


          • Islander September 29, 2023 at 6:54 pm #

            No, he doesn’t.

            As long he stays on the silly pole of bipolar and doesn’t flip to the vicious, who gives a flying eff.

          • OG September 29, 2023 at 9:07 pm #

            Methinks they doth protest too much.

          • Anthea October 1, 2023 at 2:48 pm #

            Did I mention that quizzes belong in magazines for teenage girls?

    • astera October 2, 2023 at 10:08 pm #

      LMAO…so true!

  47. neurodoc September 29, 2023 at 3:26 pm #

    RE: JHK’s last sentence, we definitely must make other arrangements, e.g. national divorce. Red/Blue split, then fight it out in the states with ‘mixed’ politics, such as Virginia (northeast vs southwest), Oregon (west coastal vs east) and split them up. If you listen to democrats, e.g. aoc, raskin, cory bush, hakeem jeffries, you’ll realize that there is no compromise with abject ignorance and stupidity (most are schooled but very uneducated).

    • Night Owl September 29, 2023 at 4:06 pm #

      I have been saying this for a while.

      I think it is possible that the only solution is a breakup of some sort.

      I’d happily come back to live in a union of red states, which is not something I would have said 10 years ago.

      Europe is going down the same path as the blue wastelands, and I do not plan on staying here to find out how our future as a digital plantation full of low-IQ boat folk is going to pan out.

      • Anthea October 1, 2023 at 2:55 pm #

        In a recent video over on USAwatchdog, Catherine Austin-Fitts said that the PTB want the USA to break up, to free them from liability for the covid jabs. To me that seems a little “off,” if not downright far-fetched. But I think Ed Dowd also mentioned a possible break-up of the USA in a recent video, and said that he had consulted with state officials about various aspects of this.

        It kind of sounds like there are people with some degree of authority who are seriously looking into secession.

        • Night Owl October 1, 2023 at 3:17 pm #

          Interesting take. Dunno if I agree, but certainly seems possible.

    • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 5:02 pm #

      Blah, blah…..JHK has been saying this for years as he’s become more unhinged and detached from reality.

    • Blackbird September 29, 2023 at 8:11 pm #

      I don’t think secession, or a “red/blue split” is possible.

      Secession: If the US breaks up, we cannot expect the whole world to stand by while we work things out. They will hover like vultures, and attack like hyenas.

      Red/Blue Split: The division is within families, friends, and communities (those few that remain). Most states are shades of purple.

      • Night Owl September 30, 2023 at 6:18 pm #

        IIRC, some states were talking about such a thing not that long ago?

  48. PeteAtomic September 29, 2023 at 3:30 pm #

    Remember 2 years ago when the Biden regime claimed that the only equipment Ukraine was going to get were ATGMs?

    Two years later, and the collective West has bled itself dry and is out of or running scarce of most everything: artillery shells, artillery guns, APCs, tanks, AA systems, surface to surface missiles, anti-ship missiles, ATGMs, the list goes on and on.

    Now the US just delivered the first of some 31 promised Abrams tanks. These will burn just like the Leopard IIs, or the Challenger IIs, the Bradley, etc..etc..next up, F-16s!

    But don’t worry! The Deep State has trillions of new MIC contracts for new military junk for your tax dollars to be spent on, like the vaunted F-35! A jet which over a trillion USD has been spent so far on its development. Eventually that will be sent to Ukraine, too!

    • cowbell81 September 29, 2023 at 3:54 pm #

      Send Stacey Abrams over there with the Abrams tanks!!!

      • BackRowHeckler September 29, 2023 at 4:11 pm #

        Stacey herself is a tank; one can picture Zelensky riding that hulk into battle across the Russian Steppe.

      • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 5:21 pm #

        Hardy har har…….eyeroll. So dumb.

      • PeteAtomic September 29, 2023 at 8:26 pm #


        she’s the size of a tank

        I wouldn’t want that chick rolling over me!

      • Ron Anselmo October 1, 2023 at 11:08 pm #

        Her mouth is so big, someone can hide in there and shoot RPG rounds out through the space between her two front teeth.

    • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 4:15 pm #

      As I understand it, the US has been sending old and outdated weapons and machinery.

      I highly doubt that they are out of weapons. This was just a Clearance Sale, meant to clear space for the new trillion dollar appliances.

      • OG September 29, 2023 at 5:04 pm #

        No doubt. “Ukrainian aid” is just another term for “MIC looting.”

      • Islander September 29, 2023 at 8:11 pm #

        The point made by Andrei Martyanov in the video is that the US does not have the industrial capacity to turn out effective weapons at a decent price. Or, actually, much of anything.

        He cites a lot of data.

        Check out the video.

        • PeteAtomic September 30, 2023 at 10:21 am #


        • Anthea October 1, 2023 at 2:57 pm #

          Col. MacGregor makes the same point.

      • Not_GeorgeT September 30, 2023 at 8:09 am #

        Old and outdated seems the way it is being done.

        I’m not seeing the industrial base to replace the items with modern stuff.

        Another example of can-kicking?

        • Paula D September 30, 2023 at 3:25 pm #

          Good point. They are getting rid of their old and outdated stuff and replacing it with contracts.

          If you visualize it, it will happen. That’s how we roll, here in the west.

      • PeteAtomic September 30, 2023 at 10:23 am #



    • Islander September 29, 2023 at 6:56 pm #

      Jeez maybe Biden meant we were sendend ATMs to Ukraine: machines that cough up endless streams of cash and materiel.

    • Hated American September 30, 2023 at 1:52 am #

      Plus all the arms the IRS has been accumulating….

    • Jarek September 30, 2023 at 2:19 am #

      Drones are the future, not just in war, but also farming. Drones that can carry thirty gallons of pesticides can cover a 100 acre farm in a day or two. One such drone can do that, saving a lot of money of having to do it by plane, which wastes much of it.

      • PeteAtomic September 30, 2023 at 10:00 am #


        AI driven drones

        u look like beard and white guy= boom

        u look like we wuz kangs= serve

        • Jarek September 30, 2023 at 1:45 pm #

          Oh ya? Can they still fly after being hit by a shotgun shell?

          Ditto for your robot dogs and police. Gort they’re not.

      • gustafson.robert.22 September 30, 2023 at 10:05 am #

        Drones are neat. Enjoy them while they last.

  49. OG September 29, 2023 at 3:40 pm #

    Survey: 33% of Democrats to vote for RFK Jr. if he runs independently – DNC headed for PANIC


    For one-third of America’s Democratic voters, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. would win if he ran as an independent in the 2024 presidential election, according to a new survey. This could potentially put a big advantage on former President Donald Trump’s reelection bid.

    Yes indeed, SSL: Trust the Plan!

    • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 4:40 pm #

      They have got that phrased awfully strangely.

      A while back someone here mentioned the complexity of a possible decision by Bobby to go third party.

      I actually consulted someone (I consulted a consultant) as to just what that would entail on a national basis. I was only slightly familiar with New York’s rules for statewide elections.

      The consultant did not remember either, but told me that as a rule, third party candidates do not win. They are a protest vote.

      What remains to be figured out is, who do they draw more votes away from?

      • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 4:49 pm #

        You can click on ballot access laws by state, at this website.


        In Illinois, third party candidates have to get 25,000 signatures, while Dem and Rep candidates have to get 5,000.
        However, the usual goal for third parties is to get double that, because the Dems, especially, have a policy of challenging signatures, which is another time and personnel consuming process.

        “Draw votes from” implies that the votes are owned by the duopoly parties.
        “You have owners” as George Carlin pointed out.

        • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 9:25 pm #

          “Draw votes from” implies that the votes are owned by the duopoly parties.

          Bear in mind this is the POV of a political consultant.

          • Paula D September 30, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

            Yes, his arrogance shines through.

    • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 4:52 pm #

      ‘naturalnews.com’ lmao….

      • OG September 29, 2023 at 4:59 pm #

        What is your GLT score, JR?

        • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 5:12 pm #

          Gym, Tan and Laundry? I know you think you’re clever but it’s kinda nauseating and cringy.

          • OG September 29, 2023 at 5:19 pm #

            I know that I am clever, JR. Of that, truly there is no doubt.

            I posted the GLT below. I look forward to hearing your score.

            If you get nauseated and all cringy by being exposed to free speech, you can always go fly a kite.

          • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 5:23 pm #

            No OG, you’re just another internet weirdo with too much time on your hands.

          • OG September 29, 2023 at 6:55 pm #

            Wrong. I am an internet weirdo with exactly the correct amount of time on my hands. I built and ran the best equity research data acquisition and publishing system on Bay Street (Canada’s Wall Street) for over two decades [circa 1992-2014] so that I would be free to practice Sociology in my 50s and, now, here we are.

            Like I say, JR, my cleverness is not in doubt.

          • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 11:01 pm #

            Oh so you’re a parasitic weirdoe.

    • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 4:54 pm #

      OG…eat bugs and impose tyranny!!!! Oh noes!!!

      • OG September 29, 2023 at 5:00 pm #

        The truth is the truth, JR. Get with the truth or burn in Hell – the choice is yours.

        • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 5:04 pm #

          I can tell I’m dealing w a real intellectual heavyweight here….

          • OG September 29, 2023 at 5:08 pm #

            Don’t judge a book by its cover, JR. What is your GLT score?

  50. Paula D September 29, 2023 at 4:20 pm #

    For the third punch, we have the blatantly illegal attacks on Trump, using the legal system.

    A NY state’s attorney brought a civil suit against Trump, claiming that he overstated the worth of his properties while applying for a loan.
    Shouldn’t a civil case like that be brought by the bank involved? Why would a state’s attorney have jurisdiction over that? Shouldn’t she be concentrating on prosecuting actual crimes?
    Also, he already paid off his loan, so any claims of fraud are now moot.

    But the Democrat prosecutor and judge went after him anyway, in a stunning display of prosecutorial misconduct and political lawfare to take out the Republican front-runner.

    Recall that the Democrats impeached Trump over a far lesser excuse.

    Note that the Democrats think that a book by Barack Obama is worth a $65 million advance, a speech by Michelle Obama is worth $750 thousand, the Clinton Foundation is worth $3 billion, and a painting by Hunter Biden is worth $500 thousand.

    But Trump is having his businesses stripped away from him for claiming that his mansion was worth more than the Democrats claim.


    • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 4:41 pm #

      Uh….it’s a bit more than that….but go on defending the indefensible.

      • Paula D September 29, 2023 at 4:52 pm #

        Um, it’s not a bit more than that. It is another outdated charge, like the one that the NY State legislature passed a special bill overcoming the statue of limitation law, specifically aimed at attacking Trump.

        “Defending the indefensible” is what we call “projection”, and you just gave a good example of it.

        • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 4:57 pm #

          ‘NY State legislature passed a special bill overcoming the statue of limitation law, specifically aimed at attacking Trump.’

          So? The mush mouthed rapist, conman deserves everything coming at him.

          • Night Owl September 29, 2023 at 5:33 pm #

            Maj’s little boostered heart is going to give out.


          • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 5:49 pm #

            There it is….the ‘clot shot’ narrative comes back to life.

          • Night Owl September 29, 2023 at 7:08 pm #

            Yes, Jack.

            You are going to die prematurely.

          • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 10:58 pm #

            Wow NO, you seem pretty certain with your weirdoe fascinating about vaccines.

          • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 10:58 pm #


          • Night Owl September 30, 2023 at 6:14 pm #

            You misspelled weirdo, too.

    • Beryl of Oyl September 29, 2023 at 4:42 pm #

      Every time something comes out about Biden criminality, Trump has a legal action taken against him.

      • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 4:47 pm #

        And what has specifically come out about Joe, not Hunter’s criminality? Be specific.

        • Islander September 29, 2023 at 8:16 pm #

          Watch the videos yourself, lazybones.


          • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 10:57 pm #

            Yeah, sure Islander…today’s hearings were a replay of Benghazi. There was no blockbuster or mountain of evidence presented. Don’t you low iq folks get tired of being duped by the fake outrage machine?

  51. jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 4:38 pm #

    Sigh…..another week of copy and paste word salads from JHK…..
    Sad to see the steady decline of a once interesting guy that now spews out the same crap twice a week! And his troglodyte ‘followers’ still stick around sounding off about ‘soup cans’ sent to the moon and how unfairly ol’ Orange Jeezus is being treated while calling the Dems the ‘party of chaos.’ Remind us again who is trying to shut down the gubmint?

    • Night Owl September 29, 2023 at 4:47 pm #

      Majella? Cargill? Mike Sherman?

      Imagine all of the productive things you could do with your hate and resentment of those more intelligent and successful than you.


      • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 4:48 pm #

        Pot, meet kettle.

        • OG September 29, 2023 at 4:53 pm #


        • Night Owl September 29, 2023 at 5:10 pm #

          I have never been banned, Maj.

          Nice try!

          • OG September 29, 2023 at 5:15 pm #

            You really are still in high school.

            What is your point? You have never been banned therefore … what?

          • Night Owl September 29, 2023 at 7:00 pm #

            Your pal already turned on you Ogger.

            It would appear your judgment is lacking.

          • OG September 29, 2023 at 7:07 pm #

            I do not seek a high-school clique as do you, zilch Nada. I seek the truth like a bull in a china shop and let all the other chips fall where they may.

          • Night Owl September 29, 2023 at 7:23 pm #

            You should capitalize Zilch here.

            I realize these things are overlooked when one is emotional.

          • OG September 29, 2023 at 7:49 pm #

            I’m cool as a cucumber over here (notwithstanding that inning-ending called third strike against Brandon Belt with the bases loaded). After what I have endured since 2010, the prattle of you is minuscule.

            You are correct, however, I did commit an error. But I kinda like it, zilch nada. It better illustrates how insignificant you are with your zero cred here.

          • Jarek September 30, 2023 at 2:23 am #

            Imagine being proud of never being banned. it’s like being proud of being a bowl of mashed potatoes.

          • PeteAtomic September 30, 2023 at 9:56 am #

            ” it’s like being proud of being a bowl of mashed potatoes.”

            hey stop that!



          • Night Owl September 30, 2023 at 3:16 pm #

            By all means, write my name in lowercase.

            Whatever helps you manage.

      • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 5:13 pm #

        Yeah, just imagine.

    • OG September 29, 2023 at 4:52 pm #

      I believe that this guy just called me a “troglodyte.”

      • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 5:03 pm #


        • OG September 29, 2023 at 5:09 pm #

          What is your GLT score, JR?

  52. OG September 29, 2023 at 5:13 pm #

    From a quick Google:

    Sociology is the study of the human behavior within society and the consequences of those behaviors. Some examples of sociology include studying racial issues, gender dynamics, phenomena and feelings around entertainment, the structure of different social institutions, and the development of different social movements.

    Sociologists study human behavior, interaction, and organization. They observe the activity of social, religious, political, and economic groups, organizations, and institutions. They examine the effect of social influences, including organizations and institutions, on different individuals and groups.

    Very good. I therefore hope you also find this feedback pleasing. This new advancement in Sociology is a social credit scoring system that is the mirror opposite of the social credit scoring system developed by those parties you would consider to comprise the black ops. It is also a practice in profiling.

    Yes. That is what Sociology is and what Sociologists do.

    Not all profiling is wrong – or should we picket senior discounts?

    Profiling people upon their choices and beliefs is done in every poll ever. If profiling were wrong, there wouldn’t be Cream Soda and Root Beer next to the Coca-Cola and Pepsi.

    One by one we woke the flip up and see the way our world works. One by one we’ve been despised and ridiculed by those still sleeping and munching on US Government Grade ‘A’ Bullsh!t to the detriment of us all.

    If you do not like your GLT, change it. Wake the flip up already!

    Quizzes of the “self-discovery” type belong in magazines for teenage girls.

    This “quiz” is not about “self-discovery” (nice strawman) and are you saying that all Sociological studies belong in magazines for teenage girls or just, specifically, the GLT?

    If the latter, what sets the GLT apart from valid Sociological studies?

    If the former, there are many in academia who would simply disregard such nonsense.


    For each of these 10 big events, score a 1 if you believe that it was a black op and a 0 if you believe the official story.

    JFK ~ 1963
    USS Liberty ~ 1967
    MLK ~ 1968
    RFK ~ 1968
    OKC ~ 1995
    9/11 ~ 2001
    ’08 Crash/Housing Bubble/Hank-Paulson Treasury Looting ~ 2008
    Boston Marathon ~ 2013
    Vegas Turkey-Shoot ~ 2017
    Nashville Christmas ~ 2021


    • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 5:16 pm #

      Wow OG…thanks for putting your paranoia out there for all to see. For a second, I thought you meant ‘Gay, Lesbian and Trans’ score which well, mine, would be off the charts.

      • OG September 29, 2023 at 5:22 pm #

        Don’t make the GLT all about me, JR. What is your GLT score?

        • jackrabbit September 29, 2023 at 5:25 pm #

          Does one’s GLT score reveal some sort of clue as to one’s critical thinking skills? If it does buddy, you’re more out to lunch than I thought. Keep reading naturalnews.com!

          • OG September 29, 2023 at 6:43 pm #

            I believe that it does, JR, but that is only a theory.

            Specifically, I theorize that 0s, 1s and 2s are jabbed up the wazoo with Fauci-sauce while 9s and 10s are infinity times more likely to have abstained and remained pureblooded when earth went loopy in 2020 and 2021.

            Further, I theorize that 3s-8s are extremely rare.

            That is, if my theories hold up to the scrutiny of real-world data, then the GLT separates the men from the boys in 30 seconds.

            FYI – The Big Kahuna and I are 10s. Gus is a 1. Those are the only three results announced on CFN.

            Everyone else here knows their GLT score but they are keeping it to themselves. I find that strange to the point of inexplicable. If one’s GLT score is irrelevant, why all the secrecy?

            C’mon, JR. Show us your GLT.

          • gustafson.robert.22 September 29, 2023 at 8:07 pm #

            I’m not a 1, never was. I said one “yes”, 9 “maybe’s,” and you didn’t like that; so you scored me a 1…VERY unscientifically, Seniór Sociologist.

            I’m five-point-two-seven, and far less jabbed than your ass.

          • Islander September 29, 2023 at 8:17 pm #

            This GLT nonsense reminds me of Charles Addams.

          • OG September 29, 2023 at 8:28 pm #

            No, Gus. It is scientific. It is binary. 1 for black op or 0 for the official story. The default is the official story. You either flip the bit to a 1 or you do not.

            You are a 1. And, if you are a 1 that truly never took a COVID jab then you are an interesting data point (i.e. an outlier that goes against my theory).

            If I may, what made you smell a rat in 2021?

          • OG September 29, 2023 at 8:33 pm #

            The pursuit of science is not nonsense, Islander. I’m not approaching you for funding or anything so PFO.

            I have developed another theory. I theorize that 0s, 1s and 2s feel stupid and attacky after scoring so low.

          • Islander September 29, 2023 at 8:41 pm #

            It’s a deal.

            You FO and I FO.

            I expect you to keep to this deal.

          • gustafson.robert.22 September 29, 2023 at 8:43 pm #

            I’m a 1 on the GLT because I don’t care about the details of the ten items enough to have solid opinions.

            Yeah, OG, I’m the least jabbed mf you ever saw. If I pass a doctor in the grocery store, I spit on him or her preemptively, and have done so since last millenium.

          • OG September 29, 2023 at 8:46 pm #

            You expect me to “keep” the deal that you just pitched and I’ve never responded to?

            You are some piece of work, lady.

          • OG September 29, 2023 at 8:52 pm #

            Yes, Gus. The GLT quantifies all the people who did not seek the truth. … because I don’t care about the details of the ten items enough to have solid opinions.

            FYI – There are no people who have cared about the details of these 10 major historical events of our lifetime and still believe the official story. That’s not a thing.

            Your reason for being a 1 is the same as all the other 0s, 1s and 2s, Gus and that is exactly what the GLT measures.

          • gustafson.robert.22 September 29, 2023 at 9:11 pm #

            A problem with the GLT then, is that it measures counter-cultural thinking indirectly, and individuals like myself, who don’t need specific views on these ten items to arrive at an utterly countercultural position, are not represented within the GLT framework.

            The surprising thing is, I’m sure you, OG, are not the worst practicing sociologist going today. You’re not anywhere near the top, but I’m confident you have some others beat.

          • OG September 29, 2023 at 9:41 pm #

            No, Gus. The GLT measures all of that. Either you’ve done the work or you have not done the work. That’s what it measures. That’s not a problem. That’s its very purpose and design.

            You see, you think that you did not “need” to do the work while I contend that you not doing your work has cost us all. [Not just you but the billions of 0s, 1s and 2s.]

            Obviously there are many accredited Sociologists who can run circles around me and my 1984 U of R one-semester Sociology 100 credit and field experience.

            Perhaps the GLT will land on the right desk and it will be used to “profile” subjects by a real Sociologist who could gather the raw data anonymously.

            Please, everyone, feel free to share the GLT far and wide. No accreditation is necessary.

          • gustafson.robert.22 September 29, 2023 at 10:12 pm #

            Yeah, I categorically refuse to spend/waste time on any of those ten items mostly from last century. My 1 was 9/11, though I think it was a strong profit motive there too. The rest, I’m sure there was plenty of fuckery going on, and I don’t care about specifics.

            If you’re so confident about Lahaina though, OG, you should put it in your GLT lineup. I think its not there because you know the evidence is bad…..

          • OG September 29, 2023 at 10:26 pm #

            No, Gus, I do not include Lahaina 8/8 in the GLT because it remains an on-going investigation. It was only 52 days ago.

            In fact, the GLT was developed to determine how open-minded you and 100 were in approaching Lahaina and your 1 says it all while 100 never mentioned Lahaina again after I posted Ann Williams‘ riveting testimony of being an eyewitness to the mass murder.

            It has been a while. I will post a fresh Lahaina thread below.

          • gustafson.robert.22 September 29, 2023 at 10:30 pm #

            You can all thank me for a fresh round of Lahaina posts incoming…………

            OG, as far as you were concerned 10 days ago, the Lahaina investigation was a wrap. This sounds exactly like backpedalling.

          • OG September 29, 2023 at 10:42 pm #

            Not at all, Gus. I am 100% convinced that Lahaina 8/8 was a black op – but it is still far too fresh to be included in the GLT.

            What we know about Lahaina’s timeline is listed in a fresh thread below.

          • Islander September 29, 2023 at 11:16 pm #

            “You expect me to “keep” the deal that you just pitched and I’ve never responded to?”

            You are so dense.

          • Jarek September 30, 2023 at 2:32 am #

            It’s not a contract until both people “sign”, Islander.

            In other words:

            Lambs eat oats
            And does eat oats
            And little lambs eat ivy
            A kid’ll eat ivy too
            How bout you?

  53. malthuss September 29, 2023 at 5:57 pm #

    The Irish have been a People for thousands of years. But under the influence of toxic liberalism, they are committing suicide. Most don’t want this, but they have no say because of “Democracy”.

    / USA and Eire are the only ‘anchor baby gets citizenship’ lands.

    • White German Shepherd September 30, 2023 at 6:41 pm #

      If in fact “most don’t want this”, then their system of voting is flawed or corrupt.

  54. BULLITT September 29, 2023 at 6:09 pm #

    Here we go again…shoot the messenger! JHK is trying to tell some of you that you better keep your eye on the ball. Sharpshooting each other gets nothing done. For the trolls, good luck and God Bless you since you are going to live the same misery as they rest of us. As those in the know always say, “We are frogs in a pot of water we won’t know we are cooked until it’s too late.” We are all swimming in luxury as the government slowly turns up the heat.
    Unless we all stick together, we are screwed!
    America is great because of the freedoms we have built into our Constitution.
    If some of you don’t like the established system, then move the “FUCK” out!
    Nobody is going to kiss your ass to make you happy!
    When there’s nothing to eat, the last thing your twisted ass will worry about is gay rights and climate change. It’s time to grow up and face the music!

  55. BackRowHeckler September 29, 2023 at 6:15 pm #

    Uh oh! The Guardian is reporting that RFK, jr plans to run as an independent in 2024. Apparently he has lost faith in the Democratic Party.

    • Disaffected September 29, 2023 at 6:16 pm #

      Who’d a thunk?

    • OG September 29, 2023 at 6:31 pm #

      Chalk one up for naturalnews.com, eh JR?

    • Night Owl September 29, 2023 at 6:59 pm #

      He is making a mistake, methinks.

      The system is rigged, the parties too corrupt.

      Either run with Trump and win (or make lots of noise if they steal it, and force exposure), or the political system as we know it is done.

      • OG September 29, 2023 at 7:13 pm #

        Or … run as Independent, split the left half of Stalemateland and, thus, provide President Trump with a victory so clear and obvious that even Dominion will be helpless.

        • Night Owl September 29, 2023 at 7:16 pm #

          Except that his supporters are largely on the right, as most of the left fell for the hoax and consider the entire thing more a political statement than anything to do with “science.”

          Deep thoughts with the Hogg Man.

          • OG September 29, 2023 at 7:26 pm #

            What are you talking about? He’s leaving the Democrats. His supporters are Democrats. He will split Democrat voters.

            You are so used to winning with your drivel that you expect it.

            My theory makes way more sense than does your analysis that RFK Jr is making a mistake.

            A 3rd party contestant can’t win a Presidential election in your rigged, two-party superpower. I’m pretty sure that RFK Jr (or someone near him) would know that.

          • gustafson.robert.22 September 29, 2023 at 8:11 pm #

            Nobody votes 3rd Party, except far rightists, and Trump already has most of those.

          • OG September 29, 2023 at 8:39 pm #

            No, Gus. Just because that was true with Ross Perrot does not mean that it is always so. RFK Jr is a Democrat. His supporters are Democrats. He will get Democrat voters. The Dems will split leaving the Donald to kick some major butt.

        • Hated American September 30, 2023 at 11:28 pm #

          RFK, JR will pull the independents as well. Trump’s got big issues, and not the support he once had….although the media is pushing him. RFK, Jr has a shot, but he also kisses the wailing wall, so, ultimately, more theater.

      • Islander September 29, 2023 at 11:25 pm #

        Putting Trump in office is a good move for Kennedy.

        • SteveK9 September 30, 2023 at 11:20 am #

          That is what I assume is his intention. Can’t really be anything else. I’m sure he realizes that Trump isn’t actually evil, like the Democrat Party.

          • JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 12:24 pm #

            More than that, maybe he has finally realized what a criminal organization the DNC really is today and finds himself believing that he is closer to Trump in his beliefs that the crooks in DC.

            Independents run against the Deep State, a primary objective right now, IMHO.

  56. KesaAnna September 29, 2023 at 6:39 pm #

    ” Yes Nigel. Votes that are hand-written, hand-counted, with strict voter ID will help in picking those who supposedly represent us.

    Not trying to be a smartass, but do you see the problem here? ”

    I’ll take a few stabs at it.

    20 years ago in the neck of the woods where I lived at the time a Mexican gets liquored up , climbs behind the wheel of a car , gets pulled over for DWI , gets thrown in the jug.

    Next day his relatives show up and bail him out .

    ( Are they his relatives ?? If he’s a Mexican , how is it that he has relatives in Nebraska ?? He’s a scion of the Latino branch of the Astor’s , Vanderbilt’s , Kennedy’s or Kardashian’s maybe ??? )

    And literally like the Invisible Man in HG Wells story , or a spook in a John Le Carre spy novel , he VANISHES .

    How ?

    In Tiajuana you can buy the exact same documents , Social security card , Drivers license , etc , made on the exact same machines , the U.S. Government , Nebraska , New Hampshire , and Montana use.

    Strictly speaking , it isn’t even a forgery . Like I said ;

    The exact same machine the other team uses.

    I have never actually read Kunstler’s book , ” Too much Magic ” ,

    but scarcely two days ever pass any more that that book title doesn’t come to mind sometime in the course of a day.

    And so again I say that I have never encountered a religion , no matter how kooky ,

    The Thugee , Aztecs with their suits made out of human skin and their Vampire Gods , Teenage suburban Satanists ,

    that’s kookier than Statism / Atheism / Social Darwinism.

    Your magical plastic card hardly inconveniences a drunk Mexican scofflaw.

    You think it will serve as even a speed bump for a genuine scumbag ?

    So much for mundane practicalities.

    In the larger scheme of things ,

    I often wonder what cave some of you Americans are living in ?

    Typically now , pick out ten Americans at random and put them in a room .

    Three of them speak English with a Mandarin accent.

    Two of them speak English with a Spanish accent.

    At least one of them speaks English with an accent that comes from God only knows where.

    Speaking of God ;

    At least one or two of these Americans pray to Allah , and Mohammed was his prophet.

    At least one or two of them claim the Jews are God’s chosen people.

    ( If that is true , then why even bother with this Jesus Christ shit ?

    Beats the fuck out of me . Granted , Jesus was a Jew —– like George Washington was a British Army Colonel , like at least Adolf Hitler’s eyes were blue , and the hair in his armpits was fair. )

    “Atheist ” used to mean ; You need professional help.

    But these days at least one or two of these Americans will claim they don’t believe in a God , just like Karl Marx himself.

    At least half the women will look and dress more like Jack , than Jill.

    Finally we get to the honest – to – god descendants of the Mayflower ,

    and Norman Rockwell.

    And not uncommonly , with their bones through their noses and their skull tattoos ,

    they look just like head – hunting cannibal Animists who just stepped out of the jungles of Borneo.

    As far as White People go , the only person in the room who looks like a product of Western Civilization is a Black Muslim , a Hindu , or a North Korean diplomat who got picked up by mistake.

    To finally get to my point ;

    If I actually was a North Korean spy who wanted to tamper with your silly make – believe election ,

    under the circumstances ,

    how the fuck would you know ?

    Back to Star Trek magical plastic cards and space magic I presume ?

    • PeteAtomic September 29, 2023 at 8:42 pm #

      “If I actually was a North Korean spy who wanted to tamper with your silly make – believe election ,

      under the circumstances ,

      how the fuck would you know ?

      Back to Star Trek magical plastic cards and space magic I presume ?’

      You are right, you wouldn’t know.

    • Rowdypiglet October 1, 2023 at 12:11 pm #

      @KesaAnna, That was a superior rant; I enjoyed every scintillating word of it.

      It’s all true as well, but life has surprised me so many times that I still believe the impossible can and does happen. What’s the point of just giving up, unless we’ve decided to die?

    • Ron Anselmo October 1, 2023 at 11:41 pm #

      Ron Anselmo
      September 30, 2023 at 12:58 am #

      Nope. The problem – common denominator, if you will – is that whoever is elected, and how, will “supposedly represent us”. Same as it ever was.

  57. KesaAnna September 29, 2023 at 7:59 pm #

    ” A 3rd party contestant can’t win a Presidential election in your rigged, two-party superpower. I’m pretty sure that RFK Jr (or someone near him) would know that. ”

    Grrr , it has been awhile since I forced myself to study the evil doings of 1860.

    But I seem to recall that Abraham Lincoln was a third party candidate in long – rigged elections ?

    Perhaps this time John Wilkes Boothe won’t loiter four fucking years , after 300,000 + of his countrymen have been murdered ,

    his country already torched ,

    to blow the evil lieing cocksuckers head off ?


    One can at least dream this side of the river separating us from the throne of God.

    • PeteAtomic September 29, 2023 at 8:45 pm #

      “Grrr , it has been awhile since I forced myself to study the evil doings of 1860.”

      Unfortunately for us in the Proletariat, all the “evil lieing cocksuckers” are spread out not only in DC, but in secret mountain bases, on aircraft carriers in the Middle East and elsewhere, on submarines, and maybe back engineered extraterrestrial spacecraft.

      So, the Bad Guys are a little more dispersed, this time.

    • JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

      Think Kesa.

      What did Lincoln take his oath to do?

      Free the slaves or defend the Constitution
      of the US?

      Against all enemies foreign and domestic!!!!!!!

      The antebellum south and the cotton hungry mills of England, both posed huge threats to the Union.

      Did he win? The union stood and slavery was eliminated. England was repudiated.


  58. KesaAnna September 29, 2023 at 8:08 pm #

    ” If some of you don’t like the established system, then move the “FUCK” out! ”

    If you had said , “If some of you don’t like America , then move the “FUCK” out! ”

    Then I would have simply pointed out ;

    This is not America .

    Where might I find it ?

    ” …..the established system ”

    I guess here I must confess to being an idiot ,

    because while at least bad old George III , Adolf Hitler , and Saddam Huessein were at least identifiable somebodies , with somewhat recognizable ethos ,

    What this system is , who runs it , and how to leave it ,

    I cannot say.

    • PeteAtomic September 29, 2023 at 8:51 pm #

      “What this system is , who runs it , and how to leave it ,”

      Well. Perhaps you oughta consider hanging out with some Mennonite oder Amishe volk, und anderes noch ein frau zum kirche gehen.


    • JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 2:02 pm #

      Oh, Kesa.

      This is not America?

      It is not your interpretation of America.

      America, the Deep State, is what the people elect it to be.

      America is a concept, not a given thing. It is only as good or evil, in your eyes or mine as the people would elect it to be.

      Is the real story here that a spoiled people cannot rule themselves fairly? All we seem to see are bozos.

  59. Paula D September 29, 2023 at 9:07 pm #

    Two American ex-pats knowledgeable about Ukraine have a talk.
    Brian Berletic and Mark Sleboda.


    • Disaffected September 30, 2023 at 10:21 am #

      This is a great listen so far!

  60. Islander September 29, 2023 at 9:35 pm #

    Someone (Slugoon?) wrote up=thread that I am spreading Western lies and propaganda.

    Here are a few comments from the Martyanov thread that I referenced:

    “I’m saying this because it’s obvious at this point that nato plans a massive attack and all experts with brains talk about that. West is for all-in”

    “Lavrov agrees with you and the decision has basically been taken to destroy NATO. When Lavrov said that battle will be decided on the battle field he did not mention Ukraine. He meant the forces behind Ukraine. Why do you think that Poland is suddenly all anti Ukie? They totally understand what Slavs mean when they speak in a certain way. Western nations not so much.The Slovaks also want out even though the US will try to get the incumbent reelected. The Slovakian people know what is coming. Western nations not so much.”

    “It’s too late – we are beyond of point of no return. Those nations should’ve thought about it earlier and not sold their souls to the West…. US will throw everything and everyone into hell fire just to prolong their power over world.”

    There are some funny vids etc. on that thread.

    • Slugoon September 30, 2023 at 1:01 pm #

      It was tongue-in-cheek but I acknowledge the written word does not betray much nuance.

      I don’t think Russia wants to engage in a hot war. My entire adult life they’ve left others well enough alone, unlike the West. What would they want to invade and occupy a shit-hole like London or San Francisco for?

      I don’t believe they’re interested in territorial expansion but merely protection of their borders and people, which includes eastern Ukraine and Crimea. I always laugh when the idiots in the EU call them expansionist. The hypocrisy is jaw-dropping.

      But as Lavrov said, if the only way is the battlefield then so be it. The West is grooming its gullible citizens to blame Russia if it all goes kinetic. And it’ll work, of course.

      • GreenAlba October 2, 2023 at 9:19 am #

        “What would they want to invade and occupy a shit-hole like London […]”

        I always assumed they wanted to take over the UK in order to corner the market in nail bars and charity shops.

  61. BULLITT September 29, 2023 at 10:04 pm #

    The system we live under is to be driven by the U.S. Constitution. Sadly, as George W. Bush said,” It’s just a “GD” Piece of paper”!
    When we get people in D.C who believe in the Constitution and the rule of law, then we would have a better system. At this point the system we have is better than most nations. I’m sure you can find many that are worse and a few that are better.
    We are becoming a nation of “GIMMES”. Many vote for those who provide a free ride. We also have those people who believe that the government is their savoir. They want a rule or regulation or a law for everything. Best part is the laws are for other people. The scumbags get no cash bail and immediate parole. We are becoming a nation of followers who want someone else to take care of them.
    Sadly, those who escape countries that abused them get here and want to change my country like their old country. We have people who move from liberal states to escape the bullshit and then create the same government in their new state. Americans better wake up to reality. This can’t be fixed with a cell phone.
    I read that the Russians are practicing for a nuclear war threat on October 3rd. We are having an emergency phone drill on October the 4th. Think about it!
    Some of you better bend over and kiss your ass goodbye!

    • Soul Forensics September 29, 2023 at 10:42 pm #

      Some of you? How do you get internet connection five miles deep in your Ecuadorian bunker?

    • elysianfield September 30, 2023 at 11:19 am #

      “I read that the Russians are practicing for a nuclear war threat on October 3rd”


      What you suggest is, for me, the worst possible of circumstances…I, just LAST WEEK, paid my yearly YouTube subscription premium….

      Piss-poor ROI, if you ask me….

      • Disaffected September 30, 2023 at 3:01 pm #

        You mean their not refunding for global thermo-nuclear war? What’s this world coming to?

    • messianicdruid September 30, 2023 at 11:26 am #

      “My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not. If they say, Come with us, let us lay wait for blood, let us lurk privily for the innocent without cause: Let us swallow them up alive as the grave; and whole, as those that go down into the pit: We shall find all precious substance, we shall fill our houses with spoil: Cast in thy lot among us; let us all have one purse: My son, walk not thou in the way with them; refrain thy foot from their path: For their feet run to evil, and make haste to shed blood. Surely in vain the net is spread in the sight of any bird. And they lay wait for their own blood; they lurk privily for their own lives. So are the ways of every one that is greedy of gain; which taketh away the life of the owners thereof.”

      Cast in thy lot among us = join a [ the ] Party [ Mob rule ].

    • White German Shepherd September 30, 2023 at 6:50 pm #

      When people beg to be slaves, they become enslaved.

  62. OG September 29, 2023 at 10:37 pm #

    Lahaina 8/8
    Here’s what we know so far:

    HAARP = Wind
    Wind + Sabotage = Downed hot power lines in intentionally unkempt dry brush = Brush Fires
    Brush Fires + HAARP Wind = Wild Fire
    Barricade thousands of Americans in the kill zone
    Except collect 2,000 of the rightful land heirs, put them in school buses and permit those buses with safe passage out of the kill zone – the only vehicles waved through the barricades manned by Vegas Turkey-Shoot “Incident Commander” John Pelletier’s troops
    DEW the barricaded until they are ash
    Immediately construct a 12’ 5+ mile blackout/blind fence
    Guard the outside of this fence (in case any dust gets any bright ideas)
    Allow no drones
    Allow no non-MSM journalists (and their pesky questions seeking truth)
    Successfully land grab some of the most valuable property on earth
    + 2,000 children make a sh!t-load of adren0chr0me
    After all, Celine Dion needs her adren0chr0me fixes [Yeesh!]
    Bob’s your uncle

    • Disaffected September 30, 2023 at 3:00 pm #

      OG, I’m not saying I buy into all this yet, but I think you missed the fact that the 2,000 missing children could be considered insurance against those pesky land owners balking at giving up their land. Isn’t their ‘missing’ status still in limbo, as family members either can’t be located or aren’t reporting them missing? I haven’t been following it lately, although very little is coming out about it anymore anyway.

  63. gustafson.robert.22 September 29, 2023 at 11:38 pm #

    Well, it’s going to be wild when the Oct 4 emergency-broadcast-system test activates vaccine nanoparticles and kills off every Democratic voter in 5 days.

    • OG September 30, 2023 at 12:31 am #

      It is weird, Gus, that’s for sure. Russia has a national emergency test on Oct.3 and then the USA on Oct. 4.

      As I mentioned before, to 9s & 10s it is kinda creepy while 0s, 1s and 2s think that it’s about time that our loveable bumbling knuckleheads upped their game.

      • Jarek September 30, 2023 at 4:24 am #

        Mary was a 10 too. Knowledge is one thing. But what you do with it is quite another – having to do with another line of development, namely morality.

        The GLT is a combination of lines: IQ plus intuition or “street smarts”. I met people who weren’t very intellectual (that doesn’t mean dumb per se), who didn’t take the jab because “it felt wrong”.

        I always had the highest respect for Mary’s street smarts.

        • OG September 30, 2023 at 11:18 am #

          Good points, BK. While there may prove to be a strong statistical correlation vis-a-vis one’s GLT and one’s IQ, the Gullibility Litmus Test is not an IQ test while it does indeed measure “street smarts.”

          IQ is useful but it is hardly the be all/end all of becoming hip to the man’s jive.

          For example, uneducated Tuskegee survivors would probably score a 9 or 10 while we have many educated bright bulbs right here at our CFN woefully measuring in at 0, 1 and 2.

          In fact, looking at it this way, the GLT may be a Wisdom Test.

          MQ was an infuriating strawman-spewing troll but she also perfectly fits my Sociology theory – she was a GLT-10 who steadfastly remained pureblooded in a world gone cultishly mad in 2021.

          This is the third time that someone has mentioned that 0s, 1 and 2s were not jabbed.

          GA referred to her painter who remained unjabbed, you refer to “people who weren’t very intellectual” who did not partake because “it felt wrong” and Gus claims to actually be one. In the first two anecdotes, we have no GLT scores. I suspect that they may come in higher than has been assumed. And Gus, on the other hand, was caught red-handed lying to us in his inexplicably running cover for TPTB in a mass-murder investigation.

          That is, these anecdotes are interesting but they do little to prove or disprove my theory.

          Most importantly, we must separate the GLT itself from our theories of what the GLT data will display/prove.

          In fact, I further theorize that jab participation is not the only area where we will find strong statistical correlations between one’s GLT score and all sorts of beliefs and life decisions.

          For example, I theorize that, on average, registered Democrats will score lower than will registered Republicans.

          Again, I stress that the GLT is a useful Sociological measure to “profile” people and their understanding of the history of their own lifetime while theories about what the GLT will display/prove remain just that: theories (until we can get a large-population data set of GLT scores to prove/disprove such theories).

          GA, with your anecdote about your painter, 1) you are assuming that he would have a low GLT score and 2) even if that assumption proved correct, are you saying that there is no statistical correlation between GLT score and purebloods or merely “Look! I found an anomaly!”?

          • OG September 30, 2023 at 11:21 am #

            I regret when I goof my HTML codes. Apologies!

          • gustafson.robert.22 September 30, 2023 at 3:05 pm #

            Call me a liar again you autistic lump! I’ll cash in a few chips with our Lord Almighty that he might smite you in your aged, larded, and retarded ass.

  64. OG September 30, 2023 at 1:16 am #

    Hey Maj. As promised …

    The Military Industrial Complex Is Making Hundreds Of Billions Of Dollars, And They Need A Military Draft In The U.S. To Take Things To The Next Level


    The Military Industrial Complex certainly does not want this conflict to end, and Joe Biden has no intention of backing down.

    So more warm bodies will be needed.

    That is one of the reasons why there has been so much chatter about bringing back the draft here in the United States.

    Do you want your children to be fed into a meat grinder on the other side of the globe?

    If not, it is time to stand up and say something.

    • WadeWaters September 30, 2023 at 8:30 am #

      Be the first one on your black to have your kid sent home in a box…

      – Country Joe & the Fish

    • Disaffected September 30, 2023 at 10:00 am #

      A genuine draft (one that wasn’t patently rigged from the start) would finally put some spine in the US electorate. That’s why they got rid of it post-Vietnam. It was far more lucrative to just ruin the economy, such that the military was the best option for young men of modest means coming out of high school. I was one of them. Tightening up admissions standards and putting a stop to student loan extortion might be a better option for finding college aged recruits, but then a lot of college “educators” and administrators would have to find a real job again too. I think it’s more likely that the military will just continue to ramp up the “high tech” boondoggles. Far more lucrative for everyone involved, especially since actually “winning” a conflict is never the goal in the first place.

      • JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 12:16 pm #

        0h no, Dis, you are right. What would the MIC have to do without a war to anticipate?

        Could it be that Ukraine lack of apparent success is actions by the Russian MIC?

        “Do not win any war.”

        • Disaffected September 30, 2023 at 2:50 pm #

          Yes. Winning always implies an end to the grift, and what rational MIC member wants that?

          Paula’s link to the two US ex-pats discussing Ukraine above goes into that in depth. Nothing about the Ukraine “war” even begins to make sense until you consider the underlying motives, which are the same as they are everywhere else: perpetual grift by means of perpetual war. It’s the only “real” economy the US has left. Dismantle the MIC and the US as we know it will implode immediately.

      • Paula D September 30, 2023 at 1:38 pm #

        Personally, I believe that mutiny and fragging had a lot more to do with the end of the draft than demonstrations.

        They don’t care about a bunch of people marching around in circles, chanting.

        They do care about their officers being offed.

        • Disaffected September 30, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

          That too.

  65. KesaAnna September 30, 2023 at 3:49 am #

    ” We have people who move from liberal states to escape the bullshit and then create the same government in their new state. ”

    ( This time ) You said it ,

    I didn’t.

    Hmmm , is it supposed to be gratifying when Americans themselves adopt my harshest anti – American propaganda talking points ?

  66. KesaAnna September 30, 2023 at 4:12 am #

    ” …. Western lies and propaganda….. ”

    My own bet is that the war will be long , and not good news for anyone who isn’t an Oskar Dirlwanger clone.

    I’m inclined to think that , not least because , near as I can tell , there has been fighting going on in Ukraine , to some greater or lesser degree , since at least 1917.

    As for the United States ?

    Interested in buying a condo in Dnepropetrovsk are you ?

    When was the last time that the sum total of the G I Bill was one nice outfit ,

    and you get to brag that you were with Harry at Agincourt ?

    Your patriots are better compensated than Hessian Mercenaries.

    Time was that Rambo – types actually bragged about their casualties.

    The painting behind the altar in the chapel at VMI — at least used to be — of a group of boys , at least half of whom hadn’t even shaved yet ,

    advancing in a battle where they got their asses kicked.

    Today the norm is you wet your panties because you got the flu.

    My statistics are about a decade or so old ,

    but last I checked , in both firepower , and expenditure of money , the U.S. Navy was not only equal to , but greater than ,

    that of the entire rest of the worlds naval power combined.

    Yet Vietnam and Afghanistan are typically on lists of worlds poorest nations.

    But they kicked your asses.

    I’m not worried about , or afraid of , you people.

    • PeteAtomic September 30, 2023 at 10:15 am #

      “My own bet is that the war will be long , and not good news for anyone who isn’t an Oskar Dirlwanger clone.”

      I think it’ll be over in the next year. The hardliners in the Kiev regime will sacrifice all of Ukraine over Donbass.

      As the billboards in Russia say, “Patience Odessa! We are coming!”

      • Paula D September 30, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

        The war will be over, but the US will sponsor terrorism for a long time.

        It took until 1953 for the Soviets to put a stop to the OUN terrorism the CIA sponsored in post-war Ukraine.
        In the meantime, they had killed 25,000 Ukrainian citizens.

        I can’t remember which US general recently referred to those days, and happily predicted that the US was going to do it again, but I remember that it happened.
        Just like the standing ovations in the Canadian Parliament, the mask has come off our overlords, and their Nazi murdering true selves have emerged.

        • Paula D September 30, 2023 at 3:29 pm #

          That is, their Nazi true murdering selves have emerged.

          I didn’t mean to imply that they would ever harm a hair on a Nazi’s head.

      • White German Shepherd September 30, 2023 at 6:54 pm #

        Bad news. China now has the largest navy on earth.

  67. KesaAnna September 30, 2023 at 4:41 am #

    Mennonites ?

    Well , in a context where bragging rights is that you were Valedictorian of summer school ,

    I can’t say they suck.

    Trouble is ……

    Transubstantiation isn’t any more far – fetched than virgin births , resurrected carpenters , or unambiguous land titles in Palestine.

    But Protestants basically have to disavow it ,

    because it is basically implicit in it that Christ in fact established a temporal church , and Apostolic succession is valid.

    One can interprit the Bible pretty much any way,

    but my part I’m pretty well convinced that Christ was in fact legitimately convicted of sedition .

    As best I understand the Roman world view , and Roman coin iconography , to Roman ears , Christ’s , ” render unto Ceasar ” is in fact at least dismissive ,

    if not flatly derisive.

    • PeteAtomic September 30, 2023 at 9:54 am #

      I’m teasing u

    • PeteAtomic September 30, 2023 at 9:54 am #


      I need a resurrected carpenter to help me with my porch

    • Jarek September 30, 2023 at 2:02 pm #

      The Romans were religiously tolerant, at least in their later phases. You burn a pinch of incense to Caesar, admitting his “genius” or connection to the gods, and then you can believe and practice whatever you like. Educated Romans did not believe he was a god or descended from them, much less an incarnation of the Logos or God.

      It was a Civil Religion. Of course some took it seriously as do some Americans take Americanism seriously.

      Pilate wanted to let him go, please remember. The Jews threatened him and he felt forced to crucify Christ. So I think you’ve got it wrong. But yes, from that stemmed the utter antipathy between Christianity and Rome. They felt they had to overthrow it and in the East, ended up becoming it.

      Later Missionaries felt they had to do the same thing in the Far East. They started a rebellion in Japan that took almost a million lives I believe. They lost and Christianity was banned and had to go underground.

      About two centuries later, the Jesuits in China cried, “enough” and said, Let’s not do the same thing again. Let people bow to the Emperor and burn a pinch of incense of his behalf. It’s just an expression of loyalty, not worship.

      And then of course the question arises: Was the animus towards Rome necessary either? What the Jesuits proposed worked, and the Church there made millions of converts.

      So? So if the Church had followed Christ’s injunction, none of the unpleasantness might have happened. On the other hand, the Church wouldn’t have triumphed and laid the seeds for the Modern West.

  68. Antidote September 30, 2023 at 5:52 am #

    I’ll take other arraignments for 200. Alex.

    • 100th Avatar September 30, 2023 at 2:09 pm #

      Answer: another daily double

    • Ron Anselmo October 2, 2023 at 12:53 am #

      There’ll be plenty of other arraignments, just you wait and see.

  69. GreenAlba September 30, 2023 at 8:56 am #

    I’m part way through listening to an interview with Dr Jane Ruby and Sasha Latypova that was indicated on Mike Yeadon’s Telegram. It starts with a discussion of the lawsuit against Kathy Hochul in NY over her attempts to introduce internment camps, but goes on to describe what is going on in hospitals, case in point Rochester Hospital in NY State.

    Seemingly the ‘covid wards’ aren’t run by the hospitals themselves – they are separate areas leased to the DoD, under the ‘countermeasures’ arrangement that Sasha has exposed for some time now with regard to the ‘vaccines’. This means that the doctors and nurses working in them are covered by the PREP Act (you guys know more about this than I do) so that when they bump patients off with Remdesivir or whatever else they are not legally liable in any way, as long as they have complied with DoD regulations.

    A very scary and dystopian part of the Matrix. I wonder what Majella/Mike Sherman/RL thinks about this. (Sasha had a relative tangled up in this dystopian web, hence looking into this hospital in particular).


    • GreenAlba September 30, 2023 at 8:58 am #

      Highland Hospital, University of Rochester Medical Center.

    • Night Owl September 30, 2023 at 3:19 pm #

      It’s all conspiracy, GA.

      Kathy Hochul is a MAGA agent trying to rile the herd up for the next unarmed assault on the Capitol.

      • GreenAlba October 1, 2023 at 12:50 pm #

        I thought Redneck Mikella would have popped by to explain that Sasha doesn’t know what she’s talking about and her relative is invented. But nothing …

  70. JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 12:03 pm #

    Hi everyone. Back from Europe today. Always enlightening.

    First observation, the European economic model’s contrast with the USAs. Millions of small businesses, many small businesses per city block, competing with each other locally. The way the USA used to be before Big Box Bob showed up, consolidating the small business sector in the US.

    The second was the way the governments reacted to the small business empire there. Tax the hell out of each small business. A tour guide was bragging that it was such a good thing that 45 to 50% of Belfast dollars are taxed but so many things take care of the “people” that it is a good “investment”.

    This is the model for Obama and the Left of the Mob in DC. My opinion is that is it is a legal way for the poor to steal from the rich, actually middle class, and I mean rich.

    The great flaw in the European model is that the government steals directly from the middle class with its taxes on the Joe Average economic base.

    • Night Owl September 30, 2023 at 6:09 pm #

      You leave out a few things.

      One is that the state retirement scheme is still a workable solution for most people.

      My wife’s father was unemployed for over 18 years and they still managed to retire on what he paid into the system and the house they bought.

      Also, medical care is very low cost in many European countries, and there are other benefits that contribute to better health, such as lots of vacation and the inability to live without medical insurance.

      Although I miss the US in some ways, there are very real benefits in Europe in terms of how social services are blended with an incentive to create and make money.

      The US has gone far too far down the capitalistic path to the point that it has become a somewhat inhumane society.

  71. JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 12:08 pm #

    Shut it down!!!!!!

    No more excuses, the only way to stop the Liberal bullshit is to let it fail, to piss off the gimme electorate so much that they realize how badly they have been used by the socialists.

    Will the lemmings have the sense to realize what the problem really is?

    I doubt it.

    We need secession. A pox on the cities, let them die. Adams, go to hell and take your version of hell with you.

    • OG September 30, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

      the only way to stop the Liberal bullshit is to let it fail, to piss off the gimme electorate so much that they realize how badly they have been used by the socialists

      That’s exactly what we are witnessing right now. It is The Greatest Show on Earth. This was a sting in operation since long before President Trump rode that escalator.

      Trump is openly talking of the executions of Mitch McConnell and General Mark Milley. It’s wakey time.

      Trump announced a few days ago in South Carolina that (I don’t have his exact quote – I saw the video clip) ‘in less than five months we will overtake the Biden Administration.’ It’s wakey time! C’mon sleepy-head. Rise and shine!

      • OG September 30, 2023 at 1:08 pm #

        And “sleepy-head” is not a jab at you, JAZ. It’s a jab at pretty much everyone.

        It’s great to have you back on CFN, JAZ. Your thoughts and opinions are always entertaining and informative.

      • JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 3:02 pm #

        Well, OG, I guess you know my opinion on what it will take to destroy the current state of affairs in DC. No holds barred.

        War is won when the opposition is destroyed, period.

        • JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 3:05 pm #


          Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!! Power is only destroyed by bigger power. A hugely depressing fact.

          Evil begets evil, that is why things always get worse with time.

          Jesus gave us the formula to stop the upsurge of evil, power. It did not last much longer than his earthly presence.

  72. JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 12:12 pm #

    Watching BBC news on airport monitor yesterday, guess what the number one headline on the USA was?

    Joe Biden says that Trump is the destruction of Democracy.

    Aye, yi, yi.

    Why Trump wants any part of this Rats nest is beyond me.

    • GreenAlba September 30, 2023 at 1:16 pm #

      BBC and The Guardian (but all the other news media too) suffer from aggravated TDS. I don’t care for Trump at all, but the total lack of the remotest pretence of objectivity from supposed ‘news’ sources is mind-boggling.

      Anyway, in the interview I linked to above, Sasha Latypova reckons you need to stop looking at an irrelevant election and worry about your local authorities creating death wards and camps, while the changes to the International Health Regulations go through next month and confirm the reality of a one-world government through the WHO (and its daddy, the UN). There’s a PREP Act in place already around marburg.

      • JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 2:38 pm #

        The concern for the election is the removal of the oncoming progressive train of miscreants and perverts.

        • JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 3:12 pm #

          Question, GA.

          Is GGG’s presence as an alpha type male causing your dislike?

          I can understand the female repugnance of this type of male in his quest for power.

          He has LOTS of company.

          Like Biden face licking and over touching.


          Reagan loved lots of gals.

          Clinton? Hahahahahaha.

          You want an alpha male to legitimately hate, try Hugh Hefner.

          Damn if he did not start the whole sect.

          • GreenAlba September 30, 2023 at 6:46 pm #

            “Question, GA.

            Is GGG’s presence as an alpha type male causing your dislike?”


          • SpeedyBB October 1, 2023 at 11:31 pm #

            Bonzo Reagan shattered a monumental barrier for presidential candidates by being the first one ever to have been divorced.

            From there to a cabinet secretary who openly practices same-sex relations is a stretch but not too far a stretch, considering the times.

            Wokelings are simply updated Puritans, in the mainstream of a tradition of suspicion, nosiness, condemnation and denial.

            This is the kind of staunch attitude that allows the Euros a good laugh at the expense of the KISS KISS BANG BANG Yankees.

            I see it all the time among my fellow Wrinklies on CFN Comments. Homophobia is so quaint on a planet crawling with 8 billion gimmes.

            No wonder so many smart ones beat it to [not-particularly-welcoming] France: Josephine Baker … Gertie Stein … James Baldwin … Robert Crumb …

      • Night Owl September 30, 2023 at 6:12 pm #

        “I don’t care for Trump at all”

        I have never understood why relatively objective people sometimes say things like this.

        I don’t care for him on the superficial level, and some of his actions are unexplainable (his opinion on Warp Speed), but most of his policies were quite sensible.

        In terms of what he accomplished in the face of staggering adversity, he easily ranks up with some of the greatest presidents the country has had.

        • GreenAlba September 30, 2023 at 6:40 pm #

          “I don’t care for him on the superficial level, and some of his actions are unexplainable (his opinion on Warp Speed), but most of his policies were quite sensible.”

          I’m happy to go along with that.

          • JohnAZ October 1, 2023 at 11:32 am #

            Okay, I understand that and that he is a blowhard narcissist.

            I just cannot stand the opposition who want to destroy the country as their primary goal.

            IOW, any thing or anybody is better than Joe Biden or any one else in the DNC.

          • GreenAlba October 1, 2023 at 12:20 pm #

            “Okay, I understand that and that he is a blowhard narcissist.”

            Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t want to see him elected, even just to make many brains short-circuit. I don’t, however, actually believe that any individual elected to power at any level will be allowed to put a significant spoke in the globalist wheel. The Machine is almost self-maintaining at this point. But I may be wrong.

            And then there’s Warp Speed, which casts a long shadow.

            Talking of which, an interesting short talk here by Katherine Watt on the legal side of the militarisation of ‘health care’ over the last century.


        • Soul Forensics September 30, 2023 at 6:44 pm #

          TV has infected almost everyone to some extent. Would Lincoln win enough votes even for city dog catcher today if his gaunt, glum visage were plastered all over the 5 o’clock infotainment digest?

          I’ve asked my supposedly intelligent literary friends and acquaintances what gives them the yips about Trump. The answers never amount to more than “Orange Man Bad”.

          • Night Owl September 30, 2023 at 6:51 pm #

            Yes, the advent of the TV presidency changed everything.

  73. JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 12:19 pm #

    Fox News this AM

    RFK, Jr. May be leaving the Democratic Party and running as an independent. He just showed more cojones, if true, than GGG.

    • OG September 30, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

      Hey JAZ! It’s good to see you back.

      Have you seen Nick Alvear‘s documentary The Greatest Show on Earth?


      I am very interested in your thoughts on this film.

  74. OG September 30, 2023 at 12:35 pm #

    XY: “PFO.”

    XX: “It’s a deal! Here it is … blah blah blah … and I expect you to keep this one-sided deal that I have just pitched to you now.”

    XY: “I never agreed to ‘keep’ anything.”

    XX: “You’re so dense.”

    I sh!t you not.

    You were bang on, JHK, when you recently pointed out that many of us logical men are driven to frustration by XX’s need for drama (and logic be damned when ill-fitting ad homs will suffice).

    • JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 12:50 pm #

      I agree with you OG, on the whole, ie Jill Average.

      The existence of the Hallmark channel, the Lifetime movie channel and the daily soaps depends on it.

      OG, anyone male, female or in between who believe that there is no difference between are not worthy of discussion or debate.

      • Islander September 30, 2023 at 1:22 pm #


        “I agree with you OG, on the whole, ie Jill Average.”

        Do you mean “re Jill Average”?

        That’s rich, coming from someone who played catch-up with CFN ladies on the jab scam.

        I guess you must watch the TV shows you reference in order to know what they are about.

        A goose has followed Gander into a turd field.

        • JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 2:34 pm #

          How about the XY alternative for Joe Average you ladies seem to like to bedevil.

          Your constant referral to the jab is a little dated now. Maybe you should find something else to berate people with. My risk assessment at the time with the data available made my jabs legit, much info has said different that made further jabs infeasible and dangerous. And by the way, I was much ahead of you on real data from the jabs.

          BTW, less than 1% of the folks in Europe were wearing masks.

          Good art comes on all channels. The very obvious femininity of those channels makes about 3/4 of them repetitive. Same in reverse of John Wayne western.

          • JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 2:45 pm #

            Besides, suburban XX is one big reason Trump lost in 2020. That is a fact.

            Just think about that, the suburban Jill Average voted against Trump, the very masculine A type male, because they resented his XY signature.

            And voted for a demented, criminal asshat who has proclaimed his goal is to destroy the patriotic ‘MAGA” USA.

            Great choice ladies.

          • Islander September 30, 2023 at 3:31 pm #

            “Your constant referral to the jab is a little dated now.”

            Oh, is it now?
            You don’t say.

            Have you run that past your new friend, Gander with his fourth-grade science project?

            According to which I guess you are a 1.

          • OG September 30, 2023 at 6:15 pm #

            JAZ and I aren’t “new friend[s],” Isles. JAZ and I were hashing out the details of this complex planet before there even was a COVID jab.

        • JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 2:46 pm #

          No, Islander, the XX choice for president in 2008 and 2020 has created the turd field.

    • Islander September 30, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

      You really are dense, Gander.

      You didn’t get that I am taking the mick out of you.

      “For what?” you honk.

      The absurd orders you trumpet.

      • OG September 30, 2023 at 2:13 pm #

        “Yeah … taking the mick out, I was. And then I went on a date with my girlfriend, … Morgan Fairchild. Yeah. That’s it! That’s the ticket!”

        If “taking the mick out of [me]” means you acting like a deranged woman, you nailed it, Islander.

        I don’t give people orders on- or off-line. So, I’m supposed not say so because maybe you’re just taking the mick out of me again?

        You are some piece of work, lady.

        • Jarek September 30, 2023 at 2:29 pm #

          Is Islander still taking the piss of Marxist/Leninism?


          • Islander September 30, 2023 at 2:54 pm #

            The MUS team is growing.

        • Islander September 30, 2023 at 2:56 pm #

          Don’t give orders . . .

          Yes, I should have said “threats.”

          • OG September 30, 2023 at 3:25 pm #

            What? I threaten your feewings, Islander?

            This is ridiculous. Setting aside the fact that I have not threatened anyone here, how, possibly, even could I threaten anyone here? I am in Saskatchewan and will never leave here while y’all will never come here. Oooo … scary.

            My logic and analysis threatens your self-image, Antonio Salieri, and that’s as plain as the Greek Yogurt that I buy.

            You are some piece of work, lady.

    • GreenAlba September 30, 2023 at 1:32 pm #

      Talking of the need for drama, you’d enjoy the Saturday night fights over here outside the pub when two XYs get involved in fisticuffs because someone looked the wrong way at their girlfriend while all four of them were a bit over the top, booze-wise. Bit of dramatic chest swelling first and ‘wotchoo lookin’ at?’.

      Then the long-suffering NHS nurses (XX or XY, but mostly XX) and doctors (XX or XY) have to stitch them up before their XY ‘logic’ seeps out of the wounds in their drama-filled little heads. Just another weekend at A&E …

      Most car accidents are caused by those logic-filled XYs too, when their need for drama gets too much for them. More for A&E to sort out …

      • Paula D September 30, 2023 at 1:52 pm #

        In the US, rattlesnake bites and rabid bat bites are statistically significantly found in the 20-something XY cohort, with ETOH levels above average.

        Coincidence? I think not.

      • 100th Avatar September 30, 2023 at 2:02 pm #

        The world might be better with less testosterone laden hombres, but then we’d be stuck with Jarek types.

        • Jarek September 30, 2023 at 2:07 pm #

          Two punch? I took you out with one good right to the jaw. You’re still groggy. But don’t feel bad, I’ve done the same to many of your brethren as well.

        • JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 2:09 pm #

          No, the world would be better with more DADs, real Dads.

      • JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 2:14 pm #

        Hiya, GA. Just went around you, visiting Cork, Belfast, Glasgow, and Inverness then Brussells.

        I waved a number of times but I guess you didn’t see.

        • GreenAlba September 30, 2023 at 2:57 pm #

          Must have been the Scotch mist, John – you weren’t visible through it. 🙂

          Brussels – chocolate, yum (hubby prefers the beer). Have you been to Bruges? I’ve always like it, despite the tourism. There’s something about those small medieval bricks that appeals to me. I’ve got a thing about pantiles too, whether here or elsewhere. There are lots of them on the east coast, originally brought over from the Netherlands, with coal or wool going the other way.

          • JohnAZ September 30, 2023 at 3:42 pm #

            Bussed through Bruges going to Brussels.

            Brussels was wonderful, tried creamed waffles, chocolates and laughed at the piss boy.

            Normandy was daunting. I trying to picture today’s youth facing what those kids did when the landing craft fronts went down.

            You can’t.

            As an Outlanderaholic, the visit to Culloden was inspiring. We did not see Nessie, darn it, but visited the site where his famous picture was taken. Inverness was beautiful.

            Loch Lomond was pretty and historical. Rob Roy was quartered there, which surprised me.

            Saw where the Titanic was built, it has a nice museum with it. Listening to the tour guide, they definitely have lots more work to do in Belfast.

            I learned in Cork where the Blarney castle is, no I did not kiss it. Cobh was the last port that the Titanic ever saw.

            Nice trip, recommend it.