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So, former FBI lawyer Lisa Page declined to testify before a congressional committee because she didn’t feel like it. Apparently we’re now a rule-of-law-optional nation. Until recently, we were merely reality-optional. That was fun, but when officers of the country’s leading law enforcement agency go optional on standard legal procedure, like answering subpoenas, then we’re truly in the land where anything goes (and nothing matters).
After two years of Trump-inspired hysteria, it’s pretty obvious what went on in the bungled Obama-Hillary power handoff of 2016 and afterward: the indictable shenanigans of candidate Hillary and her captive DNC prompted a campaign of agit-prop by the US Intel “community” to gaslight the public with a Russian meddling story that morphed uncontrollably into a crusade to make it impossible for Mr. Trump to govern. And what’s followed for many months is an equally bungled effort to conceal, deceive, and confuse the issues in the case by Democratic Party partisans still in high places. It was very likely begun with the tacit knowledge of President Obama, though he remained protected by a shield of plausible deniability. And it was carried out by high-ranking officials who turned out to be shockingly unprofessional, and whose activities have been disclosed through an electronic data evidence trail.
Mr. Trump’s visit to confer with Russian President Putin in Helsinki seems to have provoked a kind of last-gasp effort to keep the increasingly idiotic Russian election meddling story alive — with Robert Mueller’s ballyhooed indictment of twelve “Russian intel agents” alleged to have “hacked” emails and computer files of the DNC and Hillary’s campaign chairman John Podesta. The gaping holes in that part of the tale have long been unearthed so I’ll summarize as briefly as possible:
1) the bandwidth required to transfer the files has been proven to be greater than an internet hack might have conceivably managed in the time allowed and points rather to a direct download into a flash drive device. 2) the DNC computer hard drives, said to be the source of the alleged hacking, disappeared while in the custody of the US Intel Community (including the FBI). 3) the authenticity of the purloined emails by Mr. Podesta and others has never been disputed, and they revealed a lot of potentially criminal behavior by them. 4) Mr. Mueller must know he will never get twelve Russian intel agents into a US courtroom, so the entire exercise is a joke and a fraud. In effect, he’s indicted twelve ham sandwiches with Russian dressing.
Tragically, the American public is led to take this ploy seriously by a morally compromised news media, especially CNN and the The New York Times. The latter outfit is so afflicted with a case of the Russian meddling vapors that it ran this laughable headline at the top of its front page yesterday: “Just Sitting Down With Trump, Putin Comes Out Ahead.” Gosh, what’s the message there? Don’t even bother talking to foreign heads of state, especially in the interest of improving relations?
The salient question that persons in authority might ask out-loud is how come so many officers of the Intel Community have not been hauled in front of grand juries to answer for their obviously incriminating behavior. Mr Mueller is perhaps too busy chasing Russian phantoms to draw up a bill of particulars against characters such as former CIA chief (now CNN shill) John Brennan, who apparently orchestrated the early chapters of the Russian meddling ruse, Bruce and Nellie Ohr, who ushered the DNC’s Steele Dossier into the FBI’s warrant machinery, fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who managed the Steele Dossier and its spinoff mischief as an “insurance policy” against Mr. Trump, Peter Strzok, who executed the “insurance policy,” and, of course, Ms. Page, his paramour, who decided that testifying before Congress was beneath her dignity. These and probably many others.
Tragically, also, these matters can only be fully corrected by the very Department of Justice that includes under its management the rogue FBI. Who else can formally and legally bring these cases before grand juries? The DOJ appears intent on preventing that from ever happening. Congress has so far omitted enforcing its subpoenas or using its impeachment power to dislodge obdurate DOJ officials. Mr. Trump, for now apparently, has declined to use his inherent executive powers to clean out this rats nest, say by removing secrecy shields from many of the documents at issue in the DOJ’s possession — most likely because he can’t afford to be seen “meddling” in the tangled proceedings. The net result of all this subterfuge, inaction, and gaslighting, is the defeat of the rule-of-law generally in American life. This ought to be taken seriously. If it’s asking too much of the system, then the system itself will eventually not be taken seriously, and that will be the end of the republic as we knew it.
Postscript: I’m advised that Lisa Page did finally testify in closed session while I was out of the country last week. However, it took an extraordinarily long time for her to comply with the request, as detailed in this Tweet from Rep. Mark Meadows.
Post-postscript: Cable TV turned into a madhouse Monday night with CNN’s Erin Burnett and MSNBC’s Chris Mathews beating the war drums like Comanches waiting on a wagon train. Putin, they screamed, is the criminal head of a hostile foreign power. If they say so, it must be true. John Brennan, ex-CIA chief, calls Mr. Trump’s behavior “treasonous” for doubting the veracity of seventeen intelligence agencies. To me, that suggests that the US has got too many intelligence agencies and that they may be a bigger threat to liberty in America than anything that Russia has done or is doing to us.
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Indicted doesn’t mean convicted, for one. And two, I wonder if the inability to get the people they are indicting into a courtroom means that a trial will never take place. A trial also might be a bit messy, when people start to take oaths and pre-trial discovery starts to happen.
You are right, Jim – without the rule of law, we are in serious trouble.
Good morning James. Good editorial. Let’s pray President
Trump and Vlad Putin do good this morning. Have a plesant week.
Your fiend, Frank
I fiend in need is a friend indeed. And vice versa.
We DO have a rule of law; actually, two rules —
One rule for the 1%, and
another rule for the 99%.
The more things change . . .
Correct, Cancel; but allow me to add another iron law in effect plus a corollary:
Rule: Them that has the gold (metaphorically for now) makes the rules.
Corollary: Those who have the guns gets the gold.
It is only a matter of time before a civil war unfolds, but expecting a ‘crisis’ to rally the people first. Who knows if it works, as a lot of people are very angry.
I laugh at all the headlines promoting all the economic ‘recovery’ and success.
Vladimir Putin get the award for Best Trolling of 2018 – he just invited Mueller to visit Russia and interview the folks he’s indicted. I suspect Mueller will do a Lisa Page, and not show up.
I’m with Hillary. The Russians buying facebook ads is the moral equivalent of nuclear war. According to Rhodes scholar Oxford educated Rachael Maddow, we have 6800 nuclear warheads. If we strike first, Russia would only be able to launch 4300 nuclear warheads in response. On day one, 99.9% of Russians would be dead, but we would only lose 99.8%. Even though the fallout would kill everyone left alive in the USA, Canada and Mexico in 3 days, it would take the better part of a week for nuclear winter to end all life on the planet. The good news, according to Representative Schiff, we could declare victory because everyone would know, you can’t put ads on facebook criticizing Hillary and get away with it. Not now not ever! Sometimes the price of peace just isn’t worth it. Impeach Trump, load the missiles and let’s make facebook a safe space again. “Yippee Ki Yay Mo-“
Charles Hugh Smith has a good post this morning about “rackets.” https://www.oftwominds.com/blogjuly18/institutions-failing7-18.html
Yeah, that chart he shows is spot-on. Dealing with smaller firms, groups, and organizations seems like the only way to go, if you can do it. As soon as organizations hit Dunbar’s number, or a small multiple, things start to get sclerotic. There are few charts out there on universities, showing the rise of administrative staff vs number of students; the trend just keeps going up.
Yes in 2007 it took me one week to get a copy of my birth certificate. This year, it will take me 90 days!
Unfortunately, since 2008, we no longer live under rule of law. We now live under rule of swindle. Anything goes!
My in-laws were jumping for joy on reading of the indictments of 12 Russians. He’s a retired doctor at the NIH who hangs on every word printed in the Grey Lady and Wapo.
How quickly they forget the liar Colin Powell and his vial of “anthrax” proudly held up to the world to see during his shameful UN statement.
On a separate note, during a discussion of N Korea he was surprised to hear that in ’53 the US killed around 1/3 or the entire population and bombed flat over 90% of every structure in that land.
“I didn’t know that.” was his pathetic reply.
In the United States of Amnesia, where very few have any historical (or current) knowledge and lack any context, how can anything happening today possibly make any sense?
Morris Berman’s right on the money!
https://morrisberman.blogspot.com/
Our host mentioned CNN and the New York Times. He probably should have also mentioned Vox and PBS. The former explained how Russian trolls weaponized social media and the latter is likely to earn a News and Documentary Emmy nomination or two for “Putin’s Revenge” on Frontline. Who knows, Vox might earn a News and Documentary Emmy nomination also.
If Frontline on PBS not only earns a nomination but also a win for “Putin’s Revenge,” it wouldn’t be the first time anti-Russian sentiment in the media lead to an award. I thought “Faces, Places” would win Best Documentary Feature at this year’s Oscars. Instead, the award went to “Icarus,” a movie about Russian sports doping. The following was my analysis of the reasons for its win.
“Voting for ‘Icarus’ not only recognized a great piece of documentary film-making, but sent a message of disapproval to Putin and Russia, not just about the doping, but about his interfering in the election on behalf of Trump. No other nominee could have done that, not ‘Strong Island’ even with its ‘Black Lives Matter’ message, not ‘Abacus’ with its own anti-racist theme, not ‘Last Men in Aleppo,’ and certainly not the apolitical ‘Faces, Places.’ I had a hunch that might happen, but followed the data, which suggested an entirely different outcome. Sometimes, I have to examine my assumptions in order to understand things. As I’ve written before about awards shows, electorates matter, and the Oscar electorate was mad at Trump and Putin.”
Appropriate hype will be posted.
If the discussion of a subject of major interest is uncomfortable, to sanctioned points of view discussion will be diverted to a never-ending “divide and conquer” debate, the subject being race, religion or another such polarizing issue, the discussion made as unsavory as possible to kill subsequent conversation.
The CIA has a covert online presence used for data mining purposes and to infiltrate online conversations to protect ‘national security’ interests. That is the fact Jack, we are jacked.
I like the linked art and will use it. Thanks!
I got a visit from two FBI duds when I was an Assistant Professor of Linguistics at Fresno State College [for the Criminally Inane] in 1967. They wanted to know about my antiwar protests, along with the Fresno Resistance, Joan Baez being one of the leaders (all the while I was taking Uncle’s dime for a US/AID ‘Scholarship for Leadership’ project involving South Vietnamese students).
I asked them how much sacrifice the USA would make to preserve their puppet state in South Vietnam
‘As much as it takes’ replied one, just like a good Gestapo guy.
I regret that I did not tease them about the flagrant ‘Johnny & Clyde’ duo heading the straight-arrow G-men outfit.
From that point onward I assumed that I was being monitored, and tailored all mail, phone calls and personal contacts accordingly. I also stayed away from windows at night, in case some Valley patriot entertained the fancy of taking a pot-shot at me, General Edwin Walker-style. When a Grand Jury indictment came down I vamoosed for Asia.
It struck me living in central Cali that life had become something like East Germany, although a bit softer, more subtle (and with Stetson- and cowboy boot-wearing San Joaquin Valley aggie students razzing our antiwar demos). This was long, long before the pervasive digital technology that we must now deal with, and the massive so-called ‘intel’ establishment whose duty it is to poke their noses and sniff assholes (as my dear Uncle Riley used to put it).
I’m even surprised anyone talks about this any longer. Privacy and respect for the laws purportedly sheltering it have been dead for half a century or more. What we saw with ‘Herbert Philbrick’ in the corny 1950s TV thriller ‘I Led Three Lives’ (as a double-agent commie spy) has come to pass, in spades.
Right here at home. So enjoy it.
A question. Are the trolls here Russian?
A few, yes. Some, maybe. All? No. Besides, the kind of commenter that Vox calls a troll is really an agent. Trolls do it for their own enjoyment. These guys and maybe some gals are doing it for money and a cause. They’re the real paid government disinformation agents.
Where does Mo stand on the Palestinian tragedy? I assume he supports the Right of Return?
Well Jeremy I am not so sure that the Common American Idiot quickly forgets as much as they are programmed to be outright stupid. I worked for an large international corporation for a number of years, dealing with the IT guys on a regular basis. Every six months a group of them would travel to DC to be briefed by the government on cyber-security issues. They were outright advised that the Russians, Chinese, and many others including the Israelis spent 24/7 attempting to hack into and screw up all of our systems online and that we were doing the same to them as well. It was no big secret and every person who deals in such fields is well aware of the truth of it all. The Common American Idiot however need not be concerned with things like the truth for they cannot handle the truth, can they? Lies and spin, it’s what they have been programmed to prefer.
Walter,
It is a fact that most nations spy on other nations…friend and foe alike. It is a given that there was Russian meddling, as well as Israeli, German, French, Mexican Canadian (Damn those Canuks!), and others that were able. The only issue regarding any meddling is who’s ass is to be put into a sling for allowing it to occur. There are those with job descriptions involving cyber security, well paid and responsible for any breaches.
US Cyber Command supposedly has the best and brightest cyber warriors available…at least those that the NSA has not “Hoovered up.”
Cyber Warfare…”It’s what’s for dinner…”.
And Cyber Warfare as well as Space Warfare were detailed at length starting on page 54 of PNAC’s September 2000 report, “Rebuilding America’s Defenses – Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century by Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz. Thanks guys, no conspiracy there eh?
Why do you say that Lisa Page refused to cooperate? She was present and testified last Friday:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/former-fbi-lawyer-lisa-page-to-speak-with-house-panels-about-anti-trump-texts/2018/07/13/153eb41e-86aa-11e8-8553-a3ce89036c78_story.html?utm_term=.d4a63be67c89
Somehow I doubt her lawyer ever said, ‘she does not feel like it‘. Saying she wants more time to prepare and needs some mustard on her ham sandwich seems OK to me. Two rabid congressional committees want to screw her. That a woman would want time to prepare for the experience of having a train run on her ass seems all right to me.
Nonsense!
First of all, she had 7 months to “prepare”. And what exactly does one need to prepare for?
Second, if you tell the truth there’s no need to “prepare”!
Thirdly, she’s a fscking lawyer, and top lawyer at that. She knows how to twist her lying tongue with the best of them snakes.
These gov mafia fsckers should be all sitting in jail already, all serving life sentences. Their irremediably corrupt gov mafia alphabet agencies should be dismantled and dissolved.
akmoto, you are such an ass. You shoehorned your acerbic misdirection between two posts of mine directly on top of me saying
‘True she dodges, but this is a congressional supena not exactly the normal wheels of justice turning here’
Your number one point is invalid. If pressed her layer can answer the question, it is not your place to decide her best course of action.
Your number two point is exactly like your first. You have no number two though you probably need to take one.
Your number three point. She may be quite talented with her tongue but wanting to avoid a congressional witch hunt discussing texts she sent her lover is not the misuse of such talent. All because of an Orange Blimp in the White House. Do worms sin when they try and wiggle off a fisherma’s’ hook?
I’m not the one who organized a coup, falsified and fabricated evidence to do so, and was an active participant in a conspiracy of sedition and treason! But I’m the ass?! Why, because I’m not a propagandized CNN/NYTimes commie like you are.
Why you are the ass? That was already answered which you rudly ignored, reason enough right there. But since you responded another good reason is because you lie.
‘a propagandized CNN/NYTimes commie’
I am a private citizen. A citizen about to go to his real job having nothing to do with propaganda or the government in any way.
I am not being paid to be here shabbaranks or akmofo or whomever you are pretending to be right now. That is a claim I don’t think you can make.
The Russians say, do svidánija
Since we are both Americans I’ll say, don’t get any on ya.
So being a propagandized CNN/NYTimes commie and a “private citizen” are mutually exclusive? I see. I suppose you being a “private citizen” also immunizes you from being a soft belly leftist idiot who likes to accuse others of being paid Russian agents posting here using multiple avatars?
As for your idiotic answers, it’s not for her lawyers to testify, but for her to testify! How’s that for being an ass?
I was out of the country last week, so I have added a postscript on exactly what took Lisa Page 7 months to answer congressional summons to testify.
Requesting time to prepare is not exactly letting the rule of law break down. True she dodges, but this is a congressional supena not exactly the normal wheels of justice turning here. Some congressmen, like
Bob Goodlatte, R-Va. want to want to nail her ham to a wall, he said: “It appears that Lisa Page has something to hide.
That Lisa seeks to avoid the drooling jaws of congress which seek to rip her apart I find to be less egregious than the fact that despite paying my internet bill and complaining quite regularly I still have snail internet. Not enough servers, my money gets spent but no service ever gets improved. A bandwidth issue. Lisa Page knows about bandwidth issues.
The rule of law is not breaking down. Some of the Standing Rock protesters have received some very heavy sentences. There ham is getting chewed good and that shows the rule of law to be alive, well, and having very sharp and hungry fangs.
What did you say? ‘into a crusade to make it impossible for Mr. Trump to govern.’. Oh please, when did pigs start to fly?
Ditto K-Dog. JHK seems to be missing the larger game in play here, (which is out of character). Of course they will never be able to try the Russo-12. This is a pawn, or even Knight move at best. The indictments have two purposes: 1) to apply more pressure on the Americans that may have been involved; 2) to make it awkward for the Russians in international travel and finance.
The Russians have done the same to Americans through Interpol. And it appears Interpol continues to be a manipulated actor in less than scrupulous government kleptocracy.
Meeting with Putin for the purpose of improved relations is not the issue. It is Whom is meeting with Putin, further exacerbated on the insistence of a one-to-one closed door private meeting. Who the hell does that if they have a lick of sense? Speaks more to desperation than negotiation.
Putin wins because Trump & Co. seem to be going in empty handed, unplanned, and are giving up far too much position. That is why critics are opposing the meeting. The U.S. has a much stronger position, but for some reason is approaching the meeting like they have the weaker position.
Why do you think that is??
Just because they meet does not mean everything, or anything, will be discussed or given up. It can all be for show. Trump is a showman and if he can meet with Putin in a way they both save face then Trump’s political capital goes up. The meeting could be more of an investment than a summit. Putin naturally, and rightly would support shaking the small hand because the rabid neo-liberal elements of the Democratic party still want to carve up Ukraine into a new suburban subdivision. Cultivating the aura of one-to-one makes good sense from Trumps point of view. That it is irresponsible for a national leader to do that won’t occur to him.
Trump will be satisfied if he comes away with something to brag about even if it turns out not to be true. Pretty much like his ballyhooed meeting with Kim.
There is another reason why this bullshit continues on and on without end and that is because it is all billable. Lawyers simply love “legal actions” where there will be no winner and no loser, (except of course the taxpayers) , which can drag on for years and even decades of disclosure, testimony, counter motions and extensions for more of the same because it is steady, easy income. I kid you not for I have signed millions of dollars over to these parasites myself over the course of my tenure in our own, tiny government. It is the real crime and it will only get worse.
The rule of law has already broken down, Keith. Tell me that the banks didn’t break the law in 2006- 2008; and which CEOs went to jail? Did Jamie Dimon et al end up in prison? What about the medical insurance industry which blatantly breaks the law a million or so times a day? Last time I checked, no pharma or insurance CEOs were in jail or under indictment.
The sad fact is, American lawbreakers have gotten away with murder (figuratively and literally) for generations. It’s only been been a relatively few years that the internet has resulted in the existence of alternative media wherein other viewpoints and evidences can be presented to the public, instead of it having to rely on info from the controlled MSM.
Please don’t twist anything I write today to imply that it is all wine and roses. A mountain of corruption rules us and the breaking down of the rule of law is a common theme here. One I agree with. What you say is true but specifically the break down of the rule of law this morning concerns attendance before congressional committees.
This is not a turning of the normal wheels of justice and slippage of such wheel can’t be described as the same kind of breakdown. It is not logical. Breakdown does not fit. It is not the same situation as day to day justice breaking down.
Congressional Committees are not known for justice.
Let us see Dog, committees of lying, sellout, corrupt career politicians are convened to meter out Justice? How could anyone be so foolish as to think that – you are absolutely correct in your statement. It is a same that we remain willing to pay these vile bags of dirt to still hold these witless tribunals?
A serious question: Exactly what laws were broken in the Sub-Prime crisis? Banks were REQUIRED to make all those lousy loans to people who had no business taking them. It started with the Community Reinvestment Act under Clinton, and was enforced by her attorney general, Janet Reno. And let’s not forget about the credit bubble created by years of ultra-low interest rates courtesy of Allan Greenspan, and the corrupt agencies Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, and their champion in Washington, Barney Frank. Yes, banks and Wall St. firms were greedy and stupid, but the smarter ones such as Goldman Sachs sold their toxic loans as soon as they could. Geniuses such as John Paulson saw the writing on the wall and bet billions it would all end in tears. Again, exactly what laws did those Wall St. firms and commercial lenders break?
Fraud was committed in many of these cases and there was even a 60 Minutes episode where they detailed fake mortgage mills where people were paid to sit there all day and sign false names onto non-existent mortgages to be bundled into tranches for sale as CDO’s. The ratings agencies were also colluding by refusing to drop the ratings on non-performing loans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hPo6-fY_vE
Some Laws are by nature, criminal. This was one of them. Of course if you don’t believe in right and wrong, in Natural Law, then this won’t make any sense. In fact, almost nothing will make sense….
American law Makers are American lawbreakers.
from the controlled MSM.–and who owns that?
@K-Dog
>>> That Lisa seeks to avoid the drooling jaws of congress
So what is the rule you’re advocating here? If you think a legal process is unfair, you can just ignore it?
Maybe if our legal system hadn’t been subverted and politicized, Congress wouldn’t have to be doing the DoJ and FBI’s job right now.
>>> The rule of law is not breaking down.
So says you. I think Page should be treated the same way Mueller’s targets are treated. Full surveillance, followed by an arrest, followed by a search of everything she owns. Let’s follow Mueller’s example. Let’s go fishing and see what else we find.
Happy Great Schism Day, West!
On July 16, 1054 three legates of the Pope entered the Cathedral of St. Sophia and put on the altar an excommunication letter, anathematizing the Patriarch of Constantinople.
Roman Catholic Church split away from Christianity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East%E2%80%93West_Schism
An excellent and concise synopsis of this ongoing insult to what America used to be Jim, thank you, well done. The bandwidth evidence is an excellent point but will surely be ignored or denied by our resident Trump sucks, Trump sucks, Trump sucks malcontents. While it is cruelly amazing that this bullshit could still be dragging on and probably will never end, it is also equally amazing that not only has the nation not collapsed under President Trump’s reign, but that some things have actually gotten better. I never suspected that possibility, I was only afraid that America under the heel of the Mistress of Suicide would become a living hell. Only two more years to wait for Her next attempt to ascend Her throne, eh?
In the meanwhile there is NO justice, no, not for anyone. The Greedy Rulers are above it and we Lowly Little People are crushed beneath the “law”. Nope, not justice at all but theater and Kabuki Theater at that. The only part is that I am having difficulty understand who is enjoying the show? Oh, that’s right, the parasitic lawyer-scum who are billing it all at what, $1k an hour now? Damn, talk about not being able to afford to pay people Welfare or guaranteed income – how much does it cost this nation to keep the legal garbage rolling in Bentleys? Guess it does not matter when all you have to do is print the worthless green crap paper up in the basement.
The New York Times and CNN both genuinely believe there is firm evidence of Russian meddling if not collusion, and this belief has elevated itself to religious dogma. Never mind that the evidence is classified (the old sources and methods argument) and cannot see the light of day, certainly not in discovery, which renders the entire indictment process moot. Such is the stuff of which religions are made.
There are many such true believers who lap up the NYT, New York magazine, etc etc. with the same gusto that those wearing MAGA hats imbibe the nectar of the other.
Who knows? Maybe the USA was ripe for Civil War II and this less-than-lofty schism simply must suffice.
Russian meddling if not collusion, and this belief has elevated itself to religious dogma
And this dogma was declared a kind of deity that requires appropriate sacrifices, and the attempt to deprive this deity of sacrifices is considered a blasphemy.
Great post again this week, Jim. Dare I say it, I think what you’re hinting at, whether directly or indirectly, is at the very least a loosely engineered conspiracy of silence. Much more to this story than will likely ever meet the public eye, and what does will be obfuscated by “facts” of every stripe put forth by every imaginable “expert” who deems themselves worthy to weigh in. For me, I view it all as high political theater, and nothing more. Will they ever indict Trump? By now he surely knows where more than a few of the bodies are buried, so I doubt that even the Clinton/Obama camps can afford to let him go on a rampage with any of that. Political neutering is their best case and likely ultimate goal, I think. That and launching into perpetual campaign mode for 2020 as the anti-Trump party. Good luck with that!
Jim,
Hopefully you aren’t implying that should the noise die down that that fucking imbecile that you now sanctimoniously call “Mr. Trump” could ‘govern’
You cannot be serious! (echoes of past Wimbeldons and Johnny Mac) – far better days than these lifeless automatons playing tennis now.
I always use “Mr.” when referring to political personalities, whether I admir e them or not.
The sad part of all of this is how both sides of the false Left-Right paradigm are so sure that if only their contemptible P.O.S were in power, everything would be right with the world. I’d actually feel better if it were all agenda-driven but I suspect a good deal of it is naive, dogmatic ignorance always so proudly put on display by willfully enthusiastic useful idiots.
The behavior of the DOJ brings to mind an old adage; “Who’s going to police the police?” Perhaps the whole department should be disbanded and reformed. That’s what will need to happen – or some other action equally profound – before the populace will be able to believe again in the rule of law. Same thing goes for the intelligence agencies. More and more the US seems eerily similar to the USSR in its last days, certainly from a faith-in-government standpoint. Next comes the financial whirlwind if the simile I propose keeps tracking.
Hi, Al. Long time, no see.
“Congress has so far omitted enforcing its subpoenas or using its impeachment power to dislodge obdurate DOJ officials.” –JHK
There ya go! Took until the end of your post for you to come to the correct conclusion: the Republican-controlled Congress has no stomach for placing Lisa Page in contempt. It did not go well for them when they tried to show-trial her lover.
But you have to admit, Janet, poor, victimized, show trial Peter S. displayed quite a memorable demonic grin. You see that a lot in your circle?
You always break me up. Keep on truckin’ Dammit Janet. Love how the clearly partisan mind functions. (on both sides… why play favorites when there is so much stupid to go around).
The lack of charges against the DNC Queen enrages me. The lack of upholding the rule of law will end in disaster.
This begs the question; who will receive the wrath of the judicial system as a result of the redirected aggression caused by this mischief of the DOJ? Someone is going to pay for this and unfortunately it will be some low level shmuck that had a minor transgression with the rules. Unfortunate for them.
I also wonder why Trump does not appoint a special counsel to investigate the DOJ and FBI cover ups. Trump, take the gloves off, grab a pipe wrench and rearrange the smirks off the faces of those DOJ/FBI officials! I would love to see their face while serving hard time at Leavenworth.
I am also surprised that Kunstler did not mention California DNC endorsing another person over Feinstein. DNC is in the middle of an existential crisis with #walkway going down as well as the ultra left rising to power within their ranks.
Get ready for more fireworks as Kavanaugh’s confirmation process starts. I wish Trump would get a few more nominations in for Ginsburg & Breyer due to natural attrition just to see the temper tantrums of ANTIFA. The only way to destroy them is to allow them to discredit themselves before the eyes of the US voters. No amount of pushback from the center will work because the moderate center is labeled with nasty titles simply for voicing dissent. Makes you wonder what other civil rights besides the 1st and 2nd Amendments ANTIFA will attack next.
Yes it is disturbing to see the special treatment that these murdering criminal scum are given by what they used to call the Department of Justice. However, it all makes sense once you remember that even Al Capone had far more friends and compatriots than Elliot Ness and he owned the “legal system” as well as long as he kept them all on the payroll. You can buy a lot more “justice” with cold, hard cash than you can with the moral high ground. Those who embrace crime always back other criminals for birds of a feather DO flock together don’t they? Remember that when they come here to abuse you.
Buying justice is something both sides know about. Nothing new there.
Yeah, I remember. It took even bigger criminals (IRS) to finally take Capone down.
The salient question that persons in authority might ask out-loud is how come so many officers of the Intel Community have not been hauled in front of grand juries to answer for their obviously incriminating behavior.
Tragically, also, these matters can only be fully corrected by the very Department of Justice that includes under its management the rogue FBI.
I have asked myself this question and came up with same answer for years. At least since 2008. My take is that this process cannot be done because it would open huuuuge cans of worms for the Washington elite. We all pretty much know that both parties of congress are corrupt in the fact they are on the take from big business with huge money in their pockets. How else can they become multi millionare’s in a short few years while nothing gets done. If prosecutions start everyone will start singing like choir. The DOJ could convict just about all congressman, gov dept heads,
and so on if they were to start. This is why all these congressional investigations never lead to any arrest !
Whoa, talk about gaslighting! Over the past two years, this site has been a strong proponent of denial of reality and lack of respect for the rule of law. I visit here once in awhile mainly to see how much more shitfaced y’all have become on Alex Jones/Sean hannity Kool-Aide.
The problem with Alex Jones and Hannity the Bartender is that once they take up a subject they destroy any arguments they may make because they have zero credibility. Perhaps that is why they are being paid to do what they do. I could not listen to either of them without getting sick to my stomach so I do not and neither should you.
Walter B, It’s not surprising you crumple up and vomit blood when someone points to truths you can’t stomach or deny. This is your inner self trying to break free from a lifetime of Luciferian mind programming.
Clearly if your kind had their way no one would be allowed to hear viewpoints outsider the globalist, marxist party line.
You may have mistaken my point hhuller, for the points that Jones and Hannity argue are views that for the most part I agree with totally. There is something however in their delivery that has allowed to opposition to hold them up as cranks and I do believe that a lot of people are turned off to the truths they try to bring out. It might be the marketing and advertising they do but I was tired of hearing the general public blow off anything these guys said because of who they are, that’s my point. Their arguments IMHO are all valid. Now what me catch some crap for saying that.
Sorry Walter, I completely misread you.
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Yes, Hannity and Jones are loud and confrontational (much like the big orange guy himself). Ron Paul was civil and polite – and utterly ignored.
So as the good book says: don’t hide your candle under a bushel basket. (Also, that’s a leading cause of bushel basket house fires). Maybe it’s time for somebody to get loud, get ugly, get in “their” face, and get real. And let the shit fly where it may!
It reminds me of what I read in a biography of Martin Luther when he was chastised by his fellow clerics for being too confrontational in his work to straighten out the pope:
“He thinks that everything should be discussed and handled in a civil manner and with a certain benevolent kindness. But Behemoth pays no attention and nothing improves by this…[Erasmus’s and Capito’s] writings accomplish nothing because they refrain from chiding, biting, and giving offense. For when the popes [and bishops] are admonished in a civil manner they think it is flattering and keep on as if they passed the right to be uncorrected and incorrigible, content that they are feared and that no one dares to reproach them.”
While there can be no question that being nice will never bring change, the average Joe cannot deal with confrontation and so they reject it for kindler, gentler talk. Unfortunate but fact.
A lot of average Joes voted for the unkind, ungentle Donald Trump. Imagine what somone truly appealing and charismatic could do leading the Freedom Movement.
The possibilities are frightening (Antichrist?),for one with guile and promises of unending wonderfulness. I would settle for an honest candidate myself, though I am not sure that any exist. Allen West? Catherine Austin-Fitts?
In response to your last comment, I believe Jim K has frequently described the possibility of a corn-pone Hitler coming to power. I would settle for a benevolent dictator in the mold of Cyrus the Great. Voting in the here and now is a pathetic joke. I cannot imagine the great rackets of government, healthcare, MIC or even local fiefdoms like library and school districts changing without a complete, possibly bloody reset.
Ancian, funny you should mention Cyrus the Persian (circa 537 BC), the world leader who authorized the second temple to be built. (The first was destroyed around 586 BC)
In Israel orthodox Jews have made at least two different mintages of coins showing Cyrus and Trump together. They figure this year the US Embassy moves to Jerusalem, maybe soon Trump clears the way for the third temple to be built.
No, I’m not saying it will happen or that it would be a good thing. Just pointing out that some people have their hopes up. They’ve already prepared the temple vessels and furnishings, priestly garments, etc. These folks are primed to go.
Imagine the Muslim reaction to bulldozers leveling The Dome of The Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque. Talk about a bloody reset!
FYI, you can find these coins listed on EBay. No, I am not promoting them.
Behold Exhibit A.
It’s the Other v. the Other.
My God’s better than your God! My God’s better than yours! My God’s better because He has revealed The Truth to me which I and my brethren possess and you do not.
Tomayto, Tomahto, Potayto, Potahto —
Let’s call the whole thing off.
Popular culture has run out of words, rhymes, metaphors, melodies, sequences. All have been used and the new combinations are boring. Maybe that’s a sign that things have indeed run their course and it’s time for catharsis.
Yes, the pov of the intellect qua intellect is agnosticism. Atheism is a religion of No God – which can’t be proven either. Theism is +1, Atheism -1, Agnosticism is 0 – the neutral point.
I have been reading this blog since about 2006. I still love the prose. Jim’s use of metaphor is almost unrivaled in anything available to be read. However, for a man who has regularly described himself as”famously allergic to conspiracy theories,” Jim has become just one more cantakerous old conspiracy theorist, who are a dime a dozen. Substantively, these blogs are no longer unique or interesting. Nonetheless, I’ll probably keep reading them to enjoy his use of words.
With all due respect to all of those that deny “conspiracy” and “conspiracy theories” I have to tell you that you just don’t get it. Apparently none of the deniers have ever attended a meeting of their local governing bodies or boards of education, where at the end of every meeting they hold an “executive session” from which the public is excused and the discussion during which we, the elected officials cannot discuss or divulge any of the facts of to the public thereafter. If you ever sat through one of these you would see how foolish the denial of conspiracy actually is. And it gets even worse in cases like my Township Committee which has five members. The “Where the Sun Don’t Shine” law does not allow for a quorum of governing body members to meet to discuss or determine policy or actions. However in the case of our Committee, two can meet, determine a plan of action and then separately meet with a third committeeman and set a course. Actions are taken and money is committed to being spent without the knowledge of the full committee and come meeting day, all is already decided and done. That, my friend is conspiracy and that is how it is done. Extrapolate this to the state and Federal levels and it boggles the mind. Conspiracy IS the way, it is the only way things get done. Since the general public does not care and prefers to distract itself with whatever it actually does care about, denial is the only logical defense they can muster to justify their lack of involvement in a system where it is supposed to be OF and BY the people. It is now OF and BY Them at Your expense. A good thing nobody cares or they might get angry.
Thank you,Mr.Walter B
That is exactly my thoughts.There is a difference between industrial and political conspiracies though.
Recently I read “Titan” by Ron Chernow and my opinion of John D Rockefeller improved mightily. “Competition is sin” he once said.I wholeheartedly agree.In capital-intensive industries mindless competition damages and eventually destroys everybody.
As to political conspiracies I try not to think about this BS.PJ O’Rourke book “Don’t vote.It just encourages the bastards” says it all.
Every man has the right to grow. If his readership can’t grow with him, that’s their problem.
Very well put. I know my thinking has evolved continuously over the years. Dogmatic control-freaks take this as a sign of weakness. My take is that intellectual honesty is our only hope as a species. JK has come quite a way in the last few years and I admire him for it. I hope he continues to evolve. And, if he ever comes to the conclusion that government-mandated solutions to government-created problems might be as oxymoronic as the false Left-Right dichotomy… well, I won’t complain.
One of the most precise political indictments here, Mr.Jim.
This is political theatre played out on a grandiose scale, and like you point out– it’s being forced fed to many Americans by the MSM.
Now, where does the trial go from here?
I posit, according to what was intimated by Julian Assange and alleged by Kim dotcom, that Seth Rich was the individual who used a flash drive to download the emails that were sent to Wikileaks. Seth Rich had the motive, the means, and the opportunity to do this.
His murder is a completely separate matter and question. I’m not one of these guys who believes he was a ‘hit’ by some covert agency. That for me is still a bridge too far, and there would need to be extraordinary evidence for that extraordinary claim.
correction.. “Where does the trail go from here”
That for me is still a bridge too far, and there would need to be extraordinary evidence for that extraordinary claim.
Made me remember this famous Lance Armstrong quote when confronting David Walsh, one of his early major detractors: “Extraordinary allegations require extraordinary evidence.”
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/lance_armstrong_447102”
Turned out that the evidence was overwhelming once Armstrong’s conspiracy of silence was cracked, and the allegations merely common sense. People like to believe that conspiracies are “extraordinary,” when in fact they’re commonplace in all walks of life and rely on people’s inability to believe that they could possibly be true. The rich and powerful have always traded on that fact.
Great point Scratch, I’m going to write that one down for future use. I do believe that a lot of people choose to deny conspiracy because by doing so it absolves them from being so damned stupid for buying into lines of crap like the “Single Bullet Theory”. The system is designed to take advantage of the simple-minded, just ask any used car salesman.
Hey Walter. I also found it curious that while Armstrong was winning 7 straight TDFs from 1999-2005, during which time he would have been a plum and easy target for terrorists while riding along public unsecured roads in France in front of a worldwide television audience, and being so eminently associated with George W Bush, US Postal Service in their red, white, and blue kits, and all things Americana, as he was at the time, that he was never once even seriously threatened for terrorist attack. Not even once! While in the meantime, we here in “the homeland” were being conditioned to a state of permanent panisked alert and encouraged to rat each other out for “suspicious behavior,” like so many proverbial rats in a cage. So much for the great “radical Islamic terrorism threat to life and liberty” myth. Either the supposed “terrorists” are actually that stupid, or the… ahem… American Sheeple are. My money’s on the latter.
What better a way to dominate the masses than to have them all looking at one another in terror, rather than looking up and seeing Big Bad Brother as the actual threat?
So you think what exactly? That there is no Muslim Terrorism – which is simply fatuous. Or that Armstrong is a Muslim? Or that he was sharing his loot with them? Otherwise they would have blown him up or kidnapped him?
You were doing so well….
Yes Janos, there are some very angry Muslims who want to kill us all. But I think (unknown to their operational foot soldiers) Muslim terrorist organizations are funded and largely controlled by the globalist deep state cabal to include Mossad. What say you?
Come on Janos I have never beaten upon you as the others do so cut me some slack please. Of course there is an element in Islam that is terrorist and violent. Even the Muslims admit to 10% of their numbers fitting into this category and by my calculations that equates into a 200 million man army as written about in Revelation no? The problem is that those in power are playing these violent Islamists for the saps that they are in order to cower the population into submission. If we locked them out and let them wander about in the deserts of the Middle East, how much trouble could they possibly make? No, TPTB bring them into “civilized” nations to disrupt and distract those that they are planning on cheating out of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I believe this and have much proof to this regard as well.
Eliciting strong emotions short-circuits a persons ability to think critically. Fear, anger, jealousy, “for the children!” etc, has been part of the sociopath’s playbook for millennia. I still remember my boss practically hiding under her bed whenever an orange alert was issued. My God, was she an embarrassment. My former place of employment wasn’t a meritocracy.
Ancian, your boss had a bed at work? That must have been some workplace.
Walt: I was replying to Scratch. My talk about Armstrong might have clued you in since Scratch was talking about him. But no harm, no foul.
hmuller: The Globalists are using Islam AND Islam is using them. They think they can control the Muslim nations and races who despise them? The Muslims have conquered many peoples – they know what they are doing. If the Elite want to stay in control, they’ll have convert – at least outwardly.
Check out Albert Pike’s famous letter: the Third World War will between Islam and the weakened West to the ruin of both. Then the light of Lucifer (his words) can shine and they can rule unencumbered by other men and their religions. That’s the Plan methinks. My bet is on the Muslims if we can’t handle the Traitorous Elite ourselves.
Remember, Islam attacked the West long ago, and continuously for over a thousand years until we became stronger (the 500’s until the 1700’s, with Greece not liberated until the early 1800s). All of this is just the Jihad beginning again. They would have done it without any Global Elite because it’s part of their religion. And yes, without Syrian bombing, or the Tyranny of Israel. The Jihad is bigger and far older than any of that.
True about Islam Janos, have you ever checked out this fellow on the matter, he is very astute and does the details quite well….
https://www.politicalislam.com/
“But I think (unknown to their operational foot soldiers) Muslim terrorist organizations are funded and largely controlled by the globalist deep state cabal to include Mossad.” -hmuller
Don’t forget the deep state’s use of ISIS in the proxy war against Russia in Syria. The first thing that clued me off that they were a front is their name. What Middle Easterner names their organization, Islamic State of Iraq-Syria? Al Qaeda was far more believable.
FarmerJoe
” What Middle Easterner names their organization, Islamic State of Iraq-Syria?”
They don’t. We call them that. They call themselves Daesh.
Not commenting on your hypothesis, just saying…
In fact the BBC refers to them as ‘so-called ‘Islamic State’ to avoid giving them legitimacy.
Thanks Alba, I was unaware. I only ever hear them called ISIS in the American press.
in fact they’re commonplace in all walks of life and rely on people’s inability to believe that they could possibly be true.
Very true, making the burden of extraordinary proof moot from a Bayesian point of view. But while true, it goes further than that. People will deny truth even when it is in their face, if they want to bad enough.
Good points K-Pup! We all become invested in our version of reality, whether personally or professionally or whatever. Very hard to dislodge such long ingrained beliefs after they’ve taken set.
Yes, normalcy bias is the American Consensus reality – closely akin to mass Stockholm Syndrome. Because people can’t believe such things can happen makes them entirely possible. Thank God the Sheep are beginning to look up, but it is very late in the game.
Good analogy with Armstrong, Scratch.
Google: “Facts don’t change people’s minds”. There are a wealth of scientific and psychological studies that support this conclusion. Also part and parcel of the sociopath’s playbook. The more outrageous the lie, the more often repeated, the more likely it becomes unassailable fact If the terrorism meme is losing its punch, why not go back to Russo-phobia? Why let 70 years of indoctrination go to waste?
I cannot imagine that the “hearings” (maybe better to call them herrings) will interfere much with the Elites of both political parties, Wall Streeters and Hollyweirders, lovely summerings in The Hamptons, Matha’s Vineyard or wherever in the world the Goddamn Fuckers-in-Charge park their asses for the season.
But I love the way DJT has been using the world stage like the ancient , long defunct bowling alley (he no doubt played at during his youth) opposite St. John’s University campus at the corner of Union Turnpike and Utopia Parkway, Queens: knocking over the pins of political propriety with strike after strike.
Donald Tusk, NATO, The E.U., The Queen….the lot of them.
The result of the Putin and Trump summit is going to be a sea change in bilateral relations between the two countries beginning with a communique that will have swooning, gnashing of teeth and howling emanating from power centers and media for years. (At least that is what I am hoping for.)
So the story line is the following. The Obama WH and Democratic officials in the FBI and other agencies had such a strong allegiance to the Clintons and the neo-liberal wing of the Democratic Party that they risked everything and conspired together to keep Trump from being elected. Having failed to do that they concocted a conspiracy and collusion theory implicating the Trump campaign with Russian officials claiming that they conspired to defeat Hillary Clinton.
Here’s an alternative scenario that should be considered.
Could it be that they were so concerned about the Trump/Putin connection (which is very real by the way) and the potential damage to national security that this connection might portend for strategic interests of the USA that they set about doing what their charter requires them to do?
I have read about Trump-Putin-Lazar (Chabad) and Abramovich-Leviev and frankly it worries me. We could be in for a rude awakening when it turns out that this is simply a battle between oligarchs for global dominance.
Seems to me the argument could be made that our officials are doing what they are supposed to be doing instead of what might land them in prison for the rest of their lives for treason and espionage against the US. Meanwhile, the hard right, so joyous over the prospect that they may be able to roll by the progress of the last 60+ years and transform the US into a white male dominated society run by the Koch Brothers and their ilk, that they are interfering (Trey Gowdy grandstanding) with a lawful investigation and are defending a President who will sign anything they put on his desk.
Wow. Take out the names and you could be talking about anybody over the last 60 years. Until you can wrap your mind around the fact that evil is not partisan, you will be forever condemned to the purgatory of posting on echo chambers like Huffington.
Nice to see some sanity in this week’s blog, Dumbedup. I know, as does most everyone, that people who gain power tend to abuse their power. My biggest complaint with Mr. Kunstler’s post this week is the blatant defense of Donald Trump. I have reluctantly followed his antics for thirty years, and he immediately struck me as dishonest, hateful, probably criminal. If it weren’t for the similar traits in his father and grandfather, Trump would be retired from some burger-flipping job in the Bronx. He has no qualifications for anything that doesn’t require lying and cheating. Yes, I know other government officials, businesspeople, etc, display these features, as well, but Trump is the king. He has no place in public office.
I don’t know if Trump is over his head or Putin has something on him, but after that performance yesterday the alternative “story” is becoming more plausible.
This is the second time he has given away the farm during meetings with foreign leaders. He is tough on our allies and beneficent towards our enemies. He believes Putin over his own advisors and fails to recognize that he is negotiating with China through their North Korean proxy when he offers, unilaterally, to cease military exercises in the S. China Sea with no method to verify North Korean compliance with their promise to dismantle their nuclear program.
The world, even his own party in the US, is worried and for good reason.
What a mess we have, and who will we trust to straighten it out? I sure don’t trust Donald Trump. A President elected by a minority of Americans.
Great comments Dumbedup and basil.
“this is simply a battle between oligarchs for global dominance.”
It seems to me that Trump admires Putin, et al, as oligarchs who are in many ways are more efficient and nationalistic than American and other western oligarchs. So Trump thinks, “Why should we waste resources trying to dominate them? They just want to join our club, so let’s just let them in.”
Well, even though I prefer oligarchies to nuclear wasteland AND would like to see US hegemony reduced and the power of the US military/industrial complex diminished…there is one over-riding aspect of all of this that controls:
Trump has no style or finesse. He can’t do anything correctly. He is basically an idiot. He could start shitting gold bricks a mile a minute into the US Treasury and I would still hate his guts. I applaud anyone anywhere who helps feed the unrelenting criticism of anything about him. Please! All I yearn for at this point is a president who speaks in coherent sentences and has at least a 5th grade vocabulary! Even though I basically agree with the need to change USA’s foreign policy, I resent the bumbling chaos, corruption, and incompetence spewing forth from Trump’s core. He is the proverbial broken clock and I will never give him credit for ever being right about anything.
“If it’s asking too much of the system, then the system itself will eventually not be taken seriously, and that will be the end of the republic as we knew it.”
Eventually?
“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion… Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” – John Adams
TATE NOTES, see if he’s ever been to comet pizza. there may be a connection.
/ The more I investigate, the more illegal and shocking ’stuff’ there seems to be.
Remember, Hastert and Podesta are good fiends [no R].
One of the Brothers shared this: Tourist takes a picture of naked young man attempting to escape from the upper floor of the Palace with sheets tied together. The sheets come undone and he falls, to certain serious injury or death. The female tourist giggles. What terror inside prompted him to this desperate deed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqj6KmhdoNM
Green Alba,
And I repeat, Malthuss, you need to get out more.
/ That is mighty White of you, to offer that. If I were in London, I would be careful as to were I go out to,
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5386/british-girls-raped-oxford
I wouldn’t want to get the protocol wrong.
/ yes you would.
tabloid fake news tactics
/ Actually, to cover over child rape and murder, the Gov-Media created the term, ‘Fake News,’ less than 2 years ago. Pizzagate is real. It is you who is fooled, repeatedly, on BIG issues.
About 5 or 6 years ago, in Edinburgh, two Polish men abducted a young Australian women and raped her on and off for a full day, before she escaped.
/ Their race and religion [if they claim a religion] does not warrant any free pass from me, so your aspersions should be cast somewhere else.
You tried similar with Janos. You deflected with ‘that Nazi murdered a baby, but you don’t care’—or something like that. Stick to facts or lies I link to, my dear. Please.
Four out of 900? How many sexual assaults by home-grown Brits do you think happened in that year?
/ You tell me. And does the name ‘Emma West’ ring any bell? What of her plight?
And to Tate,
I hope the Tories don’t get near power again for a generation. They’re unfit to govern
–and that Muslim imbecile is fit? And The Queen? And Thatcher-Blair-May?
/
They seem to share my scepticism. [correct—> sKepticism, one K, one C]
/ Be very skeptical.
‘headlines like these can be misleading and create unnecessary fear’
/Be very afraid. Your nation [UK?] is lost. CAMP OF SAINTS, my dear. TaTa.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6721/muslim-invasion-europe
………
voiceofeurope.com/2018/07/migrant-boys-abuse-and-rape-5-young-girls-in-denmark-migrant-mother-thinks…
Malthuss
You seem to have derailed the discussion from the topic rather early in the thread. I will post my response further down.
And
FLANDERS [OF SBPDL.COM] SAID: “more blacks entered us in one decade than during 300 years of slave trade.
miscegenation of europe by the zionist elites, as accurately described by the founder of the european union coudeneuve-kalergi. the eternal skeptics may consider
(1) informing themselves enough about the talmud to realize what the talmudist goals are. they should also note that —
(2) judaism practically rules the world via the monopoly of the current means to form and shape politics and (alleged) public opinion.
(3) that judaic goals, taking as an arbitrary beginning the ownership of the bank of england by the rotschilds around 1815, have been achieved. namely, mid-1850, general plan for world domination. 1918, the balfour declaration – 1934, the destruction of germany – 1948, israel – 1967, first expansion of israel – 1990, attampted balkanization of russia, after the ussr rejected judaic bolshevism at the end of ww2 – 2003, destruction of iraq – 2011, destruction of libya – 2016 (not settled politically but physically implemented) destruction of syria – 2001 to the present, ongoing,demographic replacement of western european in their countries.
as for the reasons for the collapse of the (western) roman empire, i think that too many factors are at play to point out to the demographics as a key cause. franks, germans, longobards etc. had already been exposed and practically incorporated into the roman empire system, in different ways.
THE bilderberg gang encouraged the multi-million military-age muslim invasion and now is pretending they want to ‘protect europe’…from trump!
Recent elections in europe shows clearly that many voters are voting for trump clones to save them from utter destruction, both economic (90% of the muslim invaders live off of the host country like parasites) and military (the invaders attack regularly, terrorizing and mass murdering citizens). So there you have it, Miss Green [baum?].
“Miss Green [baum?].”
It must be weird to be you.
“judaism practically rules the world ”
Infamy, infamy…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6BJJe9JV_A 🙂
What’s that smell?
It’s the stench of kraut pig.
Sorry, SMT, you’ll have to explain that cultural reference to me. I’m at a loss.
Simple…Malthuss is a worthless piece of Nazi filth. So I used an old WWII epithet on him.
I thought you were referring to me – couldn’t quite figure out the insult.
Thank you. Praise Moses and Abraham.
Laura Silsby, Green. Laura Silsby.
The Masons hold 33 to be a magic number.
LS was convicted of kidnapping 33 children.
Hillary raced to her defense.
Seems all too odd.
Bill raced to Korea to save Enu and Lisa Ling, or was it Laura Ling?
Its hard to believe this Trump-Russia collusion meme is still going on with nothing really to show for it. Will it continue for the entire 4 years of of President Trump’s term and another 4 years after that if he is re elected? Sure, why not? Seeing as how in the past dozen or so years our own government has directly interfered in elections in Ukraine, Israel, Venezuela, Iraq and Great Britain (Brexit) — to mention just a few — I don’t see what we have to complain about, do you? What puzzles me is that other countries, namely China and NKorea, have routinely hacked into US computer systems during election time, and no indictments. And I’m wondering to what extent do US intelligence services hack into the computer systems of foreign countries?
brh
It may be hard to believe BRH, but it is certainly good to see any and everyone that is aware of the treachery that is willing to call out the thieving scum for their foul play! It may not be much but calling them out for it as opposed to accepting it without a whimper corrects consensual sodomy to outright rape. I for one will not give them my permission to screw me even if it does not change the outcome.
Time magazine 15 July 1996. The cover of this issue openly bragged about the USA fixing the Russian election for Yeltsin. I hope your question was rhetorical. Ask Mohammad Mosaddegh what lengths the CIA would have gone to in 1953 to overthrow his democratically elected govt. The list is endless.
They dusted off the old script but increased the number of agents.
=with Robert Mueller’s ballyhooed indictment of twelve “Russian intel agents” alleged to have “hacked” emails and computer files of the DNC and Hillary’s campaign chairman John Podesta.=
1972:
Five men identified as Virgilio Gonzalez, Bernard Barker, James McCord, Eugenio Martínez, and Frank Sturgis were discovered inside the DNC office and arrested.
Next we’ll read about the United Airlines Flight 553 crash and the dead Dorothy Hunt carrying large amount of cash.
Who watched this BS play in the 70’s will feel young again.I just feel nauseated.
It’s too late.
The US media is simply breathless after the Shithead in Chief gave a bravo boot-licking performance. He is all swagger and tough guy to Merkel and Trudeau and a simpering lap dog to Putin.
How much more disgusting can this get?
Putin: Trump and I can work together in many different ways (and I am in charge).
Trump: Yes (yes).
She-wolf, you really need psychiatric help. Your hatred for Trump is deeply disturbing.
Entering the Supreme Court building at 60 Centre Street in Manhattan one sets foot into a different world, refined, intellectual, rational, a landmark hexagonal building with grand magisterial stairs leading up past a row of Corinthian columns to its entry over which George Washington’s words enlighten all who enter, “The true administration of justice is the firmest pillar of good government.”
We have neither good government, nor justice at present. Rather, we are ruled through the mechanism of greed, the bastard child of fear. One can accept the infrequent injustice of a wealthy individual walking away from a horrendous crime, but injustice has become an everyday occurrence. The turning point for me was the revelation that Clinton had been fed questions to be asked during the presidential debate beforehand, and nothing was done about it. It wasn’t even investigated.
That Peter Strzok, the poster child of DC corruption, is still employed by the FBI is outrageous.
Thank you. Your post keeps me reading down this thread in spite of the garbage it’s sandwiched in-between.
Malthuss
As promised…
“sKepticism, one K, one C”
Correct in American English, not British English. I can cope with yours. I’m sure you can cope with mine. I’m assuming you claim equal literacy.
I pay the same price for JHK’s books as you do and I pay my Patreon contribution in dollars, plus international transfer fee. But if I get an official notification from Mr K. that I have to write ‘nite’, ‘thru’ and ‘color’, eat ‘zucchini’ instead of ‘courgettes’ and put a full stop after ‘Mr’, ‘Dr’ and ‘St’, I’ll try to comply. In the meantime, your personal preferences don’t keep me awake at night. The traffic on the site is apparently about 51% American, according to a link posted by Finca a while ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatestone_Institute
“The Gatestone Institute (formerly Stonegate Institute and Hudson New York) is a right-wing, anti-Muslim think tank that publishes articles, particularly pertaining to Islam and the Middle East. The organization has attracted attention for publishing false articles and being a source of viral falsehoods.”
“Multiple viral falsehoods originate from Gatestone.”
“In 2011 and 2012, Gatestone published articles claiming that Europe had Muslim “no-go zones”, falsely describing them variously as “off-limits to non-Muslims”and “microstates governed by Islamic Sharia law”. The claim that there are areas in European cities that are lawless and off limits to local police or governed by Sharia is false.”
Gatestone’s claims were picked up by many outlets, including FrontPageMag, and The Washington Times. The idea of no-go zones originated from Daniel Pipes, who later retracted his claims.
On November 18, 2016, Gatestone published an article that said the British Press had been ordered to avoid reporting the Muslim identity of terrorists by the European Union. Snopes rated the claim “false”. Snopes pointed out that the report only made a recommendation and it was issued by the Council of Europe, not the European Union. Gatestone subsequently corrected the article and apologized for the error, before removing it entirely from its website.
In 2017, Gatestone falsely claimed that 500 churches closed and 423 new mosques opened in London since 2001, and argued that London was being islamized and turning into “Londonistan”. According to Snopes, Gatestone used “shoddy research and cherry-picked data.” Specifically, Gatestone only counted churches that closed but not churches that opened; data for the period 2005-2012 alone show that 700 new churches opened in London.
“The Gatestone Institute published false articles during the 2017 German federal election. A Gatestone article, shared thousands of times on social media, including by senior German far-right politicians, claimed that vacant homes were being seized in Germany to provide housing solutions for “hundreds of thousands of migrants from Africa, Asia, and the Middle East.”
“The German fact-checker Correctiv.org found that this was false; a single house was placed in temporary trusteeship, and had nothing to do with refugees whatsoever.[ Gatestone also cross-posted a Daily Mail article, which “grossly mischaracterized crime data” concerning crime by refugees in Germany].
So please, give me a break with the Gatestone fake-news peddlars.
“and that Muslim imbecile is fit? And The Queen? And Thatcher-Blair-May?” [Malthuss referring to my comment that the Tories are unfit to govern]
The Queen doesn’t govern. Thatcher was also a Tory. May is also a Tory. If you are referring to Sadiq Khan, he is Mayor of London. He doesn’t govern the UK. You haven’t included any factual evidence of his supposed imbecility
“Their race and religion [if they claim a religion] does not warrant any free pass from me, so your aspersions should be cast somewhere else.” == Malthuss
Then I am unclear on what your point was about a groomer/paedophile of a different race/religion.
I am not your ‘dear’. Not the first time you said it, not the second and not the third.
Pizzagate is not real.
You mentioned Emma West before. She seems a strange role model, even for you.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23128956
“West was filmed shouting racist abuse at passengers travelling on a tram between Croydon and Wimbledon.
“She was bound over to keep the peace and handed a 24-month community order.
“A judge said West was clearly suffering from mental health problems at the time of the outburst.
“She received a mental health treatment order for assaulting a constable in a separate incident.
“The court heard she was “reeking of alcohol” when she carried out the verbal attack.
“She in essence persecuted a number of passengers on the tram
Julius Capon, Prosecutor Julius Capon said: “She in essence persecuted a number of passengers on the tram, subjecting them to some disgusting racial abuse.”
“She in essence persecuted a number of passengers on the tram, subjecting them to some disgusting racial abuse.”
Blacks do that every day in every big city in the Western World where they reside. To Whites. In Vino Veritas. You gave what’s his name the benefit of the doubt because he was drunk. But in fact it reveals what a person actually believes. So you’re wrong both factually about the nature of people in relation to wine, and morally, in your double standard.
“You gave what’s his name the benefit of the doubt because he was drunk. ”
I didn’t give what’s his name the benefit of anything at all. HE apologised for his behaviour. He may have apologised for opportunistic professional reasons or he may have apologised because he was genuinely sorry. We’ll never know.
If the gobby drunk moron apologises likewise for her appalling behaviour they’ll be in the same position. Currently they aren’t.
So you can take your double standards and stick them through the eye holes in a pointy white hat.
No, first you said he said what he said because he was drunk. Then you began to shift and now you have shifted completely – just as you did with the Blacks in early England fantasy. You are willing to be taught, just not to admit you are being taught, your dignity being all important.
Janos
I had – and have even now – no way of knowing if he said it BECAUSE he was drunk. He appears to have said it WHEN he was drunk. Or at least that’s what he’s telling us.
He CLAIMS to have said it BECAUSE he was drunk. He’s not my buddy so I’m not sure why you’d think I care.
You claimed he was an amazing truth teller or some such nonsense because he said it. He SEEMS not to agree. That’s as much as we can know.
You figured her out.
There are no go zones in many US cities.
Look for the MLK Blvds and avoid.
She is in massive denial.
Emma West was forced into ‘counseling’ [brainwashing] for stating the truth.
Malthuss
The allegations centred on no-go areas in European cities.
Allegations which were acknowledged to be false by the likes of Fox News when they had to apologise for spreading fake news.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/01/10/hundreds-no-go-zones-across-france-are-limits-non-muslims
What happens in your cities is a different issue and not what Gatestone were claiming.
Alba [Scottish?] I heard Emma state ‘you are not English’ [or was the term British?] …… subjecting them to some disgusting racial abuse.” You are sick.
You ‘heard’ Emma state ‘you are not English’? ‘State?’
I heard and saw her (on YouTube) ‘effing and blinding’ in a shouting, drunken rant, without any regard for her young child sitting on her knee on the bus.
She pleaded guilty to ‘racially-aggravated disorderly behaviour likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress’. This is a matter of public record.
“Alba [Scottish?]”
Last night I was ‘Green[baum?]. Am I now a Scottish Jew, or a Jewish Scot, or whatever your racial matrix dictates?
As well as an ex-Presbyterian? This becomes confusing when I am also supposed to be some sort of jihadi apologist, but I’ll leave the confusion with you.
Correction to formatting:
You ‘heard’ Emma state ‘you are not English’? ‘State?’
I heard and saw her (on YouTube) ‘effing and blinding’ in a shouting, drunken rant, without any regard for her young child sitting on her knee on the bus.
So, drunk in charge of a young child as well. Are there no limits to the noblesse of this paragon of English virtue?
“Pizzagate is not real” – Green Alba
Glad to hear you know that for a fact, Alba. So please explain to me what John Podesta meant in his e-mail, “Do you think I’d do better playing dominoes on pizza or on pasta?”
Podesta admits that it’s his e-mail, not a fraud. And he’s mad as hell that someone invaded his privacy to steal it. He’s just never quite explained why on multiple occasions he uses code words which make no literal sense, but make perfect sense when you have the FBI pedophile vocabulary booklet.
How about Alefantis: Some of the used pizzas aren’t in good shape. If you want one, you’re going to have to finish it.
Alba of course believes they’re just talking about pizza. She’s in the majority. The Truth is simply too horrible to believe. Thus they get away with it.
600 emails in code.
The murder of Monica Petersen, and others.
The Pizza Shop logo has pedo symbology, AS RECOGNIZED BY THE FBI.
Is it not so sad hmuller that so many who live in blissful affluence, far from the dirty old world out there take the denial defense so as not to have to deal with the reality of evil in society? Pizzagate is not real they say? Oh course adults would never prey sexually on children that would be uncivilized. Wow.
I have a family member, a police office in an urban PD that took a poor family under his wing years ago and got into the habit of buying them all a chicken wing dinner package every Friday afternoon. One day when the four year old daughter was in the hospital, he went to visit the little girl. A nurse came out of her room crying when he approached the room and he stopped her and asked what was wrong. Turns out the 4 year old had contracted the worst case of gonorrhea that the nurse had ever seen from her father. My police relative was fortunate that he changed his original plan and simply had the vermin arrested for his crimes. No, nobody has sex with children, it’s pure fantasy! Wow again. Anything in the world that can be conjured up is and has been being done since the dawn of time and the rule of affluence tells us that the more shit we have, the worse shit we get in to.
Walter, just because a small percentage of adults prey on young children doesn’t mean every single story you hear has merit.
“No, nobody has sex with children, it’s pure fantasy! Wow again.”
Are you really saying that because of an entirely separate anecdote that you personally came across regarding a family member and a police officer, every other paedophile conspiracy you ever hear of must be true?
I hope you don’t get called for jury duty too often.
“Pizzagate is not real they say? Oh course adults would never prey sexually on children that would be uncivilized.
I don’t think I’d have had those two sentences accepted together as logic in a school essay when I was 12. Have a word with yourself, Walter.
I hope if any of your daughters are ever falsely accused of something, those investigating events can do better than ‘of course young women are never known to do blah blah blah. It would be uncilvilised. Wow.’
Unbelievable.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/05/man-with-rifle-arrested-at-dc-restaurant-targeted-by-fake-news-conspiracy-theories.html
It’s even too stupid for Fox News. And that’s saying something.
I am always at a loss as to why our host considers you an asset. Perhaps it is the accent.
“I am always at a loss as to why our host considers you an asset. Perhaps it is the accent.”
I am at a loss as to why you’d think our host considers me at all.
But I’m really beginning to think that a very plausible but false accusation levelled at one of your daughters might be just what you need to wake you up.
Grow up GA and lay off the personal insults, it makes you look rather petty. Our host, if you listen to his podcasts, often mentions his Scottish connection with a good deal of glee, it is right there to hear. Secondly, wishing misfortune on my children is pathetically petty and something that I honestly though was beneath you. How wrong we can be.
Lastly, I understand that I am at a great disadvantage being a member of a large law enforcement family, and have had a lifetime of hearing of so many fouls deeds perpetrated upon women, children, animals and inanimate objects from sexual deviant men that I am often ashamed of being one myself. I will admit that the knowing can certainly be a curse more than a blessing. The fouls deeds of men are countless, despicable and certainly NOT limited to any particular age group, no matter what you may choose to believe. You are probably better off being ignorant, but denial is not acceptable for those of us that are exposed to it so frequently, sorry.
Suggesting I lay off the personal insults is a bit rich, don’t you think?
You seem to be missing the point, Walter.
If 99% of men can be proven to be paedophiles and rapists that doesn’t mean the ‘Pizzagate’ conspiracy has any truth to it.
The truth or otherwise of ‘Pizzagate’ depends entirely on its own merits and has no connection whatever with any other venality anywhere else in the world.
And refusing to accept the truth of a conspiracy theory without evidence isn’t the same as being ignorant, sorry.
I’m astonished at your lack of logic.
And I don’t wish anything on your family – perhaps you could just settle for THINKING how you’d feel if the whole internet was a-buzz with ‘but what could her email possibly have meant if it didn’t mean that?’ when you knew it was garbage.
hmuller
“So please explain to me what John Podesta meant in his e-mail”
You don’t seem to have quite got the hang of this evidence thing.
Evidence to be demonstrated by the people making the accusations. Watertight evidence. Not viral memes on the interwebs.
I’m glad you all stick to the same standards of judicial rigour regarding Pizzagate, Russian collusion and #MeToo, though.
I mean it would be really disappointing if y’all had different standards of proof for different kinds of accusations, wouldn’t it?
Because what would that mean?
Green Alba, I was not suggesting John Podesta go straight to the penitentiary. First comes an investigation, then a trial. Then the trip to the big house.
I think there’s enough in those e-mails together with other evidence to justify an investigation. Do you disagree? I notice you avoid the e-mail pedophilia code talk issue altogether. Aren’t you the slippery old gal!
Maybe Podesta should simply clear up this silly misunderstanding about what he meant. How can you be against that?
“Maybe Podesta should simply clear up this silly misunderstanding about what he meant. How can you be against that?”
I’m not against that at all, hm. I’m not sure what the legal situation is with forcing someone to interpret comments they made that are ASSUMED by some people to be significant, in the absence of any other evidence. I think you might have to have some sort of case against him first. And if something comes up that looks like real evidence I’m not against changing my mind.
I think Fox are your best bet, though,for a bit of investigative journalism on this one. Yet they don’t seem convinced. And often they’re happy to jump on tenuous factoids they have to apologise for later so it’s surprising that they haven’t wanted to prove themselves the righteous mavericks with this one.
I have no investment in Podesta’s reputation one way or the other – I know nothing about him. If someone comes up with some evidence of wrongdoing I’ll neither be happy nor unhappy, except for the fate of any hypothetically abused children.
Fair enough, Green Alba, at least you’re open to the idea of an investigation. And I wasn’t thinking of FOX News conducting it, but rather the proper law enforcement agencies.
And please don’t say if there was anything to the matter, there would already have been an investigation. You don’t know how deeply political corruption and cronyism have perverted our legal system in the US.
I’m guessing if some British politician whom you despised had this volume of pedophilia evidence against him already publicly known, you would want a fair and impartial police investigation to get at the whole truth.
About FOX News. They’ll go further into revealing the corruption and lies of the deep state, but there is a line they will not cross, for example the truth about 9-11.
Your point of logic against Walter is valid: Just because pedophilia exists doesn’t mean it’s present every time it’s charged by someone. This is obvious and I think Walter knows it. He was waxing anecdotal, something you often do.
Remember how all those lovely tea parties with gentle, refined Muslims molded your impression of them overall. If your only anecdotal experience with Muslims was being held hostage and gang raped for a year, you might have a different view.
Both views would be valid anecdotally; and neither would reveal the complete picture.
“I’m guessing if some British politician whom you despised had this volume of pedophilia evidence against him already publicly known, you would want a fair and impartial police investigation to get at the whole truth.”
I wouldn’t need to despise them, hm – if someone has genuinely done something that vile I’d want them exposed even if I’d previous admired them – if there was a genuine case.
It’s a minefield, though. We had the Westminster VIP paedophile inquiry here that went on for ages, damaged the reputations of a number of said VIPs and ended with the accuser turning out to be a fantasist and the Metropolitan police force apologising to the wrongly accused (who was later charged with paedophile offences himself.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/06/westminster-child-abuse-accuser-nick-charged-paedophile-offences/
I’ve never been at a tea party with any ‘refined Muslims’, although I’ve worked with Muslims (in France, as it happens) and one of my best friends (in Paris) has a daughter married to a Tunisian, with three delightful children. I have Muslim neighbours whom I don’t know that well and I shop regularly in their shops. That’s it.
I was also in central Paris (visiting said friend) the night of the Bataclan attack, with my family trying to get hold of me to see if my friends and I were OK. I have stated this before. So please don’t suggest I am in some way ignorant of jihadi atrocities.
Oops, sorry – got that a bit mixed up. It was the *accuser* was later accused of paedophile offences.
The Queen doesn’t govern.–You know money talks.
She rules the fools.
What of his ‘art’–cannibal, child torture, etc?
One picture is worth how many words? Dont cha think?
And his friend Marina, toast of the town?
here are some of his emails, slippery old gal;
I’M DREAMING ABOUT YOUR HOTDOG STAND IN HAWAII
I CONSIDER ICE CREAM, ITS PURCHASE, AND ITS CONSUMPTION A RATHER SERIOUS BUSINESS.
WE CAN’T JUST WILLY-NILLY TOSS IT OUT AND ABOUT IN CASUAL REFERENCES, ESPECIALLY LINKED WITH THE WORD “FREE”.
PEDO CODE WORDS IN JOHNS EMAILS
PIZZA” = GIRL
“CHEESE” = LITTLE GIRL
“HOTDOG” = BOY
“PASTA” = LITTLE BOY
“ICE CREAM” = MALE PROSTITUTE
“WALNUT”
LOLLIPOP
HANDKERCHIEF
PLAY DOMINOS
/ there are 600 of these emails. Spend a few hours at youtube, at sites like Titus Frost and similar.
Oh, and as a bonus, check Nobel Prize winner, Ted talk guy, Clinton staffer Joel Davis, charged w wanting to rape a 1 year old.
Answer this, why would 65,000 dollars in hot dogs be flown from Ctown to the white house?
You could start with the drawings of the 3 men last seen with Madeline Mc Cann, near known pedo Clement Freuds house.
Those 3 men are, undeniably, John, Tony and Tony Weiner.
Pederast Weiner is presently in jail.
They talk in code.
> Ps. Do you think I’ll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta?
Good points, Malthus. But I think educating Green Alba is a lost cause. She looks to the deep state dis-info outlet “Snopes” for her facts; (probably isn’t even aware of their little scandal hiring hookers as fact checkers). Oh, what a wild and randy man that David Mikkelson turned out to be!
And when I suggest (somewhat tongue in cheek) that Podesta can explain his e-mail comments and clear up any misunderstandings, she goes to work like a legal beagle looking for technicalities to excuse him from having to comment. Yes, in America we call it the 5th amendment, and it’s generally not invoked by innocent people.(but I digress).
Point is, Green Alba is far more vested in helping accused pedophiles than victims, whom she calls “hypothetically abused”, like their suffering is not real. Then she cites some UK pedophilia investigation which came up short, implying by anecdotal precedent that’s how these things are – just baseless accusations.
This is not surprising, the pedophiles are globalist left-wingers who share GA’s ideological ground; she protects her own..
Hillary scrubbed her server.
Podesta scrubbed his emails around the time the child disappeared.
Hastert and JP are the best of friends.
Barney Frank has been mentioned, as well as GW Bush.
/
This scandal is too deep, too dark, and covers too many people from both sides of the political aisle for it to ever proceed in public.
If it were to be exposed, it would uncover a tale of surveillance, scandal, drug money, child prostitution, and blackmail that could blow up all over Washington. ~ James Corbett …
Mr Muller
I am not a legal beagle and I have no particular knowledge of your Podesta affair other than what I have briefly read. I rarely – almost never – comment on this site regarding your political players, as they are not as familiar to me as they are to you. I know the ones that everyone knows, but not well enough to presume to comment on them.
The exceptions are Trump, whom I hold in contempt but whose validity as president I have repeatedly said I support – and Clinton, whom you should also have picked up, I equally hold in contempt.
I wouldn’t know Mr Podesta if he fell in my soup. If he and people connected to him are indeed guilty of the crimes you describe I will be delighted to seem him jailed and will personally be happy to throw away the key.
Please do not presume to tell me who I protect – I do not protect him, whatever his political flavour. I do not ‘protect’ anyone, other than the usual people in my personal life whom it is my role to protect.
And there is a difference between ‘hypothetically abused children’ and ‘hypothetically-abused children’. Over here it’s called ‘innocent until proved guilty’. If the hypothesis is shown to be correct, then it becomes appropriate to refer to the children as ‘abused’.
Please carry on your campaign. I have no dog in the fight and am only interested in the truth, whatever it turns out to be.
The Westminster story was an illustration of how things are sometimes made up, despite their seeming plausibility.
Perhaps it was made up that it was made up. I am not in a position to know.
*proven*
And here’s another mix-up:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jul/18/cliff-richard-wins-damages-from-bbc-over-police-raid-footage
Read the comments on CFN and it appears the BBC are in cahoots with the ‘elite’ who cover for assorted paedophiles and other high-level-low-lifes. Yet here we have the BBC having its knuckles rapped for ‘exposing’ Cliff Richard without him having been actually accused of anything.
So, either Cliff is guilty and the BBC isn’t doing its job of covering for globalist, paedophile-protecting elites properly or Cliff isn’t guilty and the BBC was taking a day off its duties as protector of the globalist, paedophile-protecting elites to try to make him look like one of the people it’s accused of protecting. It’s all beyond me.
‘Pizzagate’ is a crock of shit.
So, John Podesta’s brother owns weird art, made by a weird artist who creates art specifically designed to drive bougies and conventional people bananas. And then what happens? Lordy be, all the bougies and conventional people go bananas, because of course they do. So the artsy types get to enjoy a good laugh at the commoners they hold in contempt, the commoners get to enjoy getting their hate on for people they hated to begin with, and the media sell more commercial time. Everybody wins!
Meanwhile, this art bears not one whit on whether there is an actual conspiracy to molest actual children in the actual physical world. (You know, the physical world? Where Comet Ping Pong actually exists, is a totally ordinary pizza restaurant, and doesn’t have a basement?) Actual crimes are matters of fact, not belief — they either happened or they didn’t happen — and there is not one single shred of factual evidence for this tissue of moral panic. But conspiracy logic does not resemble Earth logic. Conspiracy theories always start with the conviction that they are out to get us; and then they fit the facts around the policy.
malthuss, your PEDO CODE WORDS IN JOHNS EMAILS are to truth what shit is to shinola. Jonathan Swift was mocking you centuries before you were born:
“… It is first agreed and settled among them, what suspected persons shall be accused of a plot; then, effectual care is taken to secure all their letters and papers, and put the owners in chains. These papers are delivered to a set of artists, very dexterous in finding out the mysterious meanings of words, syllables, and letters …
“When this method fails, they have two others more effectual, which the learned among them call acrostics and anagrams. First, they can decipher all initial letters into political meanings. Thus N, shall signify a plot; B, a regiment of horse; L, a fleet at sea; or, secondly, by transposing the letters of the alphabet in any suspected paper, they can lay open the deepest designs of a discontented party. So, for example, if I should say, in a letter to a friend, ‘Our brother Tom has just got the piles,’ a skilful decipherer would discover, that the same letters which compose that sentence, may be analysed into the following words, ‘Resist —, a plot is brought home—The tour.’ And this is the anagrammatic method.”
When you can make words mean whatever you want, then they don’t mean anything. If I could make Donald Trump’s words mean whatever I wanted, I could achieve world peace in ten seconds. Meanwhile, Marina Abramovic’s art is trolling, and you have been trolled. Stop being such an easy mark.
Elrond.the pedo code words are not in anagram form, they appear on an FBI list just as Podesta used them. If your long winded answer is any indication of your ability to grasp logic or evidence, you have my pity.
hm
Did you even bother to read this?
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/anatomy-of-a-fake-news-scandal-125877/
Mueller Reveals Russia Investigation Just Elaborate Sting To Nail Clinton Child Sex-Slavery Ring
‘President Trump Played His Role To Perfection,’ Special Counsel Discloses
https://politics.theonion.com/mueller-reveals-russia-investigation-just-elaborate-sti-1827696431
“WASHINGTON—Lauding President Trump for his invaluable role in the operation, Special Counsel Robert Mueller informed the public Wednesday that his so-called Russia investigation was in fact merely a cover for an elaborate sting to bring down the Clinton family’s child sex-slavery ring.
“‘The Justice Department has finally been able to track down and arrest everyone associated with the Clinton Foundation’s unconscionable crimes, and it’s all thanks to President Trump agreeing to work undercover and play along with our fabricated accusations of Russian interference in the 2016 election,’ said Mueller, explaining that after its agent Seth Rich was killed by the Clintons, the department recruited Trump to distract high-ranking Democrats with social media stunts, continuous denials of Russian involvement in U.S. politics, and glowing praise for Vladimir Putin.
“‘Without the president’s help, we never would have been able to keep the guise of the “Russia investigation” going long enough to launch our successful raids of Comet Ping Pong and secret locations in Haiti—efforts that ultimately brought the Clintons’ human-trafficking crimes to light. Thanks to the heroic actions of Donald Trump, we can all sleep a little more soundly tonight, knowing the world’s children are safe.’
“Mueller went on to thank the numerous media personalities and Republican lawmakers who first pointed out to federal investigators that the real problem lay in Hillary Clinton’s missing emails.”
For the benefit of people new to this blog, it is important to understand JHH’s conspiracy theory.
Let me provide a summary in a nutshell:
Hillary Clinton is a criminal because she continued use the same private email server which she had been using for years while serving as Secretary of State.
Jared Kushner was makng arrangements for the Trump administration to use a secret Russian server for communications. Nothing wrong about that.
Wikileaks and Russia performed a valuable public service by releasing private emails from the leadership of the Democratic Party revealing that they preferred the nomination of long time Democrat Hillary Clinton over the long time socialist Bernie Sanders. This was because there was some skepticism regarding whether the Republican campaign would ignore the socialist background of Bernie, not to mention that there is a long historic resistance of the american voting public to socialists. Furthermore, the email revealed that some of the campaign workers often patronized a pizza restaurant which had a ping pong table used by some children, which was proof of pedophilia. This accusation of pedophilia was supported by JHK in one of his blog comments.
James Comey, the Republican FBI director appointed by George W Bush, allegedly found some evidence of Russia meddling in the presidential campaign of 2016 against Hillary Clinton. His deputy was Andrew McCabe, a life-long Republican whose wife was a low level Virginia state Democratic politician.
This investigation was supported from some research conducted by a British intelligence agent, Christopher Steele, who was familiar to the FBI because he was a primary source of the FIFA scandal prosecution. However, because Christopher Steele is dishonest, we can now assert that the FIFA investigation was corrupt and that there was no wrong doing in FIFA.
Both Comey and McCabe, despite being Republicans, secretly concocted fake evidence against Trump because they wanted the Democrat to win.
After Trump fired Comey and AG Jeff Sessions recused himself, Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein appointed Robert Mueller to head a new special investigation of the Russian cyberwarfare and election meddling. Rod Rosenstein is a Republican orignally appointed by George W Bush.
Despite the Republican leadership of the investigation and the majority of the investigators being Republicans, the entire investigation is shown to be a corrupt, faked operation because one of the investigators was shown to have expressed some personal negative opinions of Trump, an opinion shared by a majority of Americans and also a majority of Republicans in Congress.
I forgot to add that Robert Mueller is also a Republican appointed by George W Bush. Maybe George W Bush was the initiator of this deep state conspiracy, probably with the help of his father George H W Bush.
@mdhendler
Your reductio ad absurdum seems to rest on the fact that many of these conspirators were Republican, or appointed by Republicans. But RINOs are very much part of the swamp, and comprise a significant plurality of Never Trumpers. Donald Trump didn’t merely defeat Hillary; he also defeated every other Republican running for POTUS. Republicans overwhelmingly chose Trump over all the other RINOs. And it infuriates the establishment that this outsider took the prize. He’s not a lawyer. He’s not a veteran. He had no prior political experience. He’s not even a life-long Republican. Yet he took the party away from the RINOs and now controls every aspect of it.
So your point really misses the mark.
Hillary Clinton is a criminal because she did not take the due care with government documents that was her obligation deriving from the documents she signed in order to obtain Top Secret clearance.
The problem with the Democrat Party officials was not that they “preferred” Hillary Clinton, but that they made overt (and clearly fraudulent) attempts to swing the nomination to her. If you do not recall, I will remind you that Donna Brazile has publicly stated that she provided Ms. Clinton with the questions to be proffered in a “debate” beforehand.
The fact that various officials were appointed by Republicans is of little import when so many of the established members of the Republican Party were “never Trumpers”, as opposed to his nomination as the Democrat establishment was to Bernie Sanders.
You seem to have difficulty with the principles of logic. Perhaps your mother was frightened by a philosopher while gestating you.
BTW, I did not vote for Trump, and, in fact, think he is a bit of a jackass. I don’t think Mr. Kunstler supports him either, but I do find the ongoing train wreck of the Democrat Party to be hilarious and well deserved.
Excellent comeback. Doubt very much it will carry much weight with the “resistance”
mdhendler
Thanks for the summary. I find it impossible to get a handle on any of these matters (or on anything at all really) just from relying on media reports.
I don’t believe conspiracies explain everything about what is going on but I do accept that they happen all the time. Similarly, I don’t think ‘following the money’ explains everything either although it is always in the mix. Peter Hitchens believes in conspiracy theories, not about the WTC and suchlike, but in the normal course of events. He calls it ‘lunch’ because it is at lunches in expensive London restaurants that senior British politicians provide titbits of gossip in return for the placing of news stories and the manipulation of the newspapers’ readers.
I know very little about what is happening in this case apart from what I can pick up here but this is what I think might be happening. The media, politicians and ‘right-thinking’ people are appalled by Trump. They call him a racist, mentally unstable and various other things but can never back it up with evidence. He is an obvious target for their righteousness and the obviousness is so obvious that it does not merit a closer examination. I am prepared to believe that they got carried away on a wave of self-righteous hysteria and some of them conspired somehow to break the law.
It was blazingly obvious that he should be stopped or removed and their conspiracy was ill-thought out and very amateurish, but caught in the moment nobody thought or cared about that because they were all acting as right-thinking people ought to act.
I often write here about the astonishing and fully evidence-free abuse scandals which regularly convulse the world, and sometimes about other mass delusions where hysteria replaces reason. The abuse witch hunts are the best example of how people who should know better lose their heads. Lawful procedures are flouted, justice is corrupted and Institutions are undermined. This has been called ‘just cause corruption’, which is self-explanatory.
I am not surprised that Republicans are caught up in this just as much as Democrats. In fact, I would be amazed if they were not. Most people think there is a big difference in Britain between Labour and Conservative, when in fact their differences are very small on social matters (and most other things). On matters such as the evident wickedness of Trump they are in full agreement. I am convinced this is all a huge mass fantasy. They are not in full control of their minds and reason. Listen to their arguments and to what they say and it is clear.
The Crisis of Abuse has happened before. Gays are always attracted to all male environments, especially ones that offer access to young men in a terms of a hierarchical relationship. Let St Peter Damien be your guide. Here is a review of his justly famous “Book of Gomorrah”. Between this and Randy Engle’s “Rite of Sodomy”, I am confident that you can be brought out of the Darkness in which you so confidently dwell.
https://onepeterfive.com/book-review-the-book-of-gomorrah-by-st-peter-damian/
Janos, it is a distasteful subject which I try to ignore. I am willing to believe that there is a certain amount of homosexual misconduct in the Church, although probably nothing like as much as some would like to believe. I can believe reports that Fr Shanley was involved in relationships with teenagers and young men when he brought his ministry ‘out onto the streets’. However Shanley was convicted for wicked abuse of a young boys.
So here is another article from JoAnn Wypijewski about the case. https://www.counterpunch.org/2010/01/25/judges-shock-ruling-okays-fantasist-s-quot-repressed-memories-quot-fraud/ Extracts:
““A disgusting sinkhole of racism and vulgar prejudice” was Alexander Cockburn’s apt characterization of Massachusetts on this site the other day— and we can now add this: the commonwealth is the last sanctuary for sex fantasists keen to lock someone up, perhaps for life, on no evidence at all.
On January 15 the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts distinguished itself as the last court in America to accept, in the face of voluminous research and scientific opinion to the contrary, repressed memory (also called massive amnesia, dissociative amnesia, recovered memory) as valid evidence in a criminal prosecution.
“It did so in its ruling in the case of Paul Shanley, the defrocked Catholic priest who in 2005 was convicted of raping and otherwise molesting a child on nothing more than the tearful “recovered memories” of the now-grown accuser. Shanley had become the eye of the panic storm over priestly abuse that swept through Boston and then the nation in 2002. The accuser, Paul Busa, was one of three young men who all had the same personal injury lawyer; all went to the same therapists; all talked together at length; all described nearly identical heinous assaults occurring in the same place and time when they were little boys in the same religious education class; all, miraculously, experienced total amnesia after each assault, so that they went innocently with the priest to be raped again and again every Sunday for years; and all, even more miraculously, recovered their memories of these agonies at the same time, after The Boston Globe decided to make Shanley its No. 1 “depraved priest”.”
The media surely play down any wrongdoing committed by homosexual priests with young men because that does not suit their agenda and concentrate, massively and hysterically, on non-existent abuse of young children.
Can you see the difference?
… and a nice summary of the case here in this paragraph from just before the end of the article:
“Back in 2002 virtually the entire media swallowed the story of Shanley’s monstrosity as presented by personal injury lawyer MacLeish. They then regurgitated it back to a gullible and easily lead public. Political ideology offered no buffer from this dangerous nonsense, as so-called leftists abandoned any interest in justice or reason, blinkered simply by disdain for religion and the Catholic Church. Homophobes and the homosexual establishment were as one against Shanley, repeating MacLeish’s lie that he was a founder of NAMBLA, that he had a long history of documented sexual abuse, that he had been moved from parish to parish because of this, that because he’d had sex with young men he must be a child rapist. The Boston Globe, a disgraceful paper that, like Martha Coakley, deserves every blow it has recently suffered and would best disappear from the scene, didn’t care that its reporters either never reviewed the entire documentary record about Shanley or willfully misrepresented it.”
That is how the press and the media are with just about everything: they do not investigate properly and their reporting is biased. “The Boston Globe, a disgraceful paper that… would best disappear from the scene.” We could say that about most if not all of them.
Again you take refuge in one case, ignoring the enormity of the problem, and its ancient pedigree in the Church. The Saints themselves have fought against this, but you, Cole Man, think you know better.
One case at a time you mean. One can only disprove them one at a time. But while you are beheading one another seven spring up. The problem is not enormous, only the deceit.
And remember, the Shanley case was what sparked off the Boston witch hunt, and the Oscar-winning film that glorifies the knaves and fools who created it.
It is similar in a way to the global warming fantasy. We are told that 97% or 99% (or any figure they pluck out of the cooling ether which is always nearly 100) of scientists accept the fairy tale. Only that this is nonsense. So much for the ‘enormity of the problem’. Then you examine the individual pieces of the fraud, one by one, like the claim that everything in the IPCC reports is ‘peer reviewed’, or that that organization is represented by the very flower of modern ‘climatology’ or has impeccably transparent procedures. And once you have dealt with them you then look at other pieces, again one at a time, such as the history of the infamous ‘hockey stick’ graph, the elusiveness of its underlying programmes and ‘data’, and so on and so forth. There are so many little pieces and every one has to bee looked at and they all, mirabile dictu, turn out the same.
As I have already told you, you would sooner join BLM than give up this fantasy.
“Stirred up by holy rage, you wrote of such [i.e., sodomitical] clerics according to your judgment; it is appropriate … that we intervene with our apostolic authority so that we might dispel scrupulous uncertainty from the reader, and so that it may be known with certitude by all that everything that this little book contains has been pleasing to our judgment, being as opposed to diabolical fire as is water. … For he who who does not attack a vice, but rather coddles it, is justly judged guilty of the death together with those who die by that vice.”
— Pope St. Leo IX (r. 1049-1054), writing to St. Peter Damian
If only you had such holy rage against this sin, but at least you hate the media. That’s going in the right direction since they adore sodomy and the sodomites.
I don’t know where you got the idea that I approve of either it or them.
Most voters – heck, lets call them American citizens – are declared independents. If they had just a little more imagination, they could transform their power to swing elections, into the power to create a third party. It would look like this: A woman with a sword, blindfolded yet determined to defend and protect the truths of freedom -represented by a balance scale- draws a line on the ground, using the tip of the sword, and anyone who crosses that line, is cut down with the sword. The sword she holds represents the votes of citizens who care more about Justice than preserving the system which no longer benefits them.?
Unfortunately, any new party created in this corrupt system of ours, would quickly become corrupted itself. Whatever your opinion of the Tea Party movement (for example), it was quickly subverted into obscurity. There is no guarantee any new political movement won’t meet the same fate or be the result of Astroturfing.
“You know, comrades,” says Stalin, “that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how.” -Boris Bazhanov’s Memoirs of Stalin’s Former Secretary.
But you have to admit, Janet, poor, victimized, show trial Peter S. displayed quite a memorable demonic grin. –hmuller
Isn’t grinning protected by the First Amendment?
The Republican lynch mob could not point to a single official act in the counter-intelligence investigations of Peter S. that was influenced by his personal opinion of Trump.
Grinning is still constitutionally protected, whether you like it or not.
The things you can convince yourself about amaze me, Janet. Were you brain washed and waterboarded as a toddler under the deep state’s MK Ultra program? It could explain a lot.
You claim,
Peter S. was perfectly fair and professional in leading an effort to destroy the man he admitted to loathing and hating, overturn an election, foment impeachment based on known fraudulent documents, plant lies in the mainstream fake news media, repeatedly lie, lie, and then lie some more.
But he was perfectly objective and professional – we know because he says so! Now I must take a page from Peter S. and grin with contempt.
That was one helluva grin. Poor Janet. Going through life that ignorant is a tragic waste of potential.
Great summation, Jim.
At last, the seemingly endless rounds of soccer matches have ended, and it was quite refreshing to come across the Johnsonville Cornhole Championships last night on ESPN. There I learned that you can’t spell USA without SaUSAge, which was splashed across the board with the hole in it.
Speaking of gaslighting, former Ted Cruz staffer Amanda Carpenter has written a book titled, “Gaslighting America: Why We Love It When Trump Lies to Us.”
“In Gaslighting America, Carpenter breaks down Trump’s formula, showing why it’s practically foolproof, playing his victims, the media, the Democrats, and the Republican fence-sitters perfectly. …”
He’s certainly co opted the words “fake news” and uses them to great effect.
Amanda came up with Terry McAuliffe as the Democratic candidate in 2020.
Also, Charlie LeDuff’s book, “Shitshow: the Country’s Collapsing… And the Ratings Are Great”, describes his travels to Ferguson, Flint, the Texas border, the Bundy ranch,etc., and his discussions with the locals. He tells us that government on all levels has failed us and that the people are angry. Some revelation.
But I have to admit that the idea of Trump making the country’s collapse more entertaining is an amusing one and somewhat enjoyable. Do I need help?
No, we all need help. To endow Trump with such magical abilities is a bit ridiculous but apparently, a necessary trope for the “resistance” Could this be the empty suit presiding over the last great Black Swan? Personally I see more of an unenthusiastic Slim Pickens riding the Metaphorical bomb than some Machiavellian genius behind it all.
Consider that during the 2016 election cycle the 20 top individual donors coughed up more than 500 million bucks in donations to political organizations.
https://www.opensecrets.org/overview/topindivs.php?cycle=2016&view=fc
Consider also that the 20 top organizational donors also coughed up over 500 million bucks in donations to political organizations.
https://www.opensecrets.org/overview/toporgs.php?cycle=2016&view=fc
If you want to know what oligarchy looks like, this is what it looks like.
Consider these amounts of money from these people. Do you think they’re paying all these sums out of the goodness of their hearts?
Look at the lists. These are the shot-callers. If the system is going down the drain, it’s going down the drain in the service of these few interests.
Trump was never intended to be in the Oval Office and they’re trying to get him out by any means short of rifle-shots.
JHK is right about this, there was supposed to be an Obama-Hillary hand-off. The trouble is Hillary fucked it up.
“You’re still not being clear, Tate. Are they benefit scroungers, i.e .not taxpayers supporting the welfare state or are they taxpayers supporting it?” — GreenAlba
In a contra-reality, a reality that the barren Globalist Elite class of people (the Cloud people) really, really wished for, sorta-like the White Queen’s six impossible things before breakfast scenario, the benefit-scroungers magically turn into benefit-providers.
But that doesn’t appear to be the case for many of the ‘vibrant enrichers’ (I would dare say most of them.) You can’t view everything from a straight-laced libertarian ‘economics’ POV. As you pointed out to another poster somewhere — maybe in this thread — there are exogenous costs to everything we do.
So if you’re gloating over catching me in a logical contradiction, go ahead, enjoy your ‘triumph.’ Reality is that thing which remains when your artful rendering of it fades away.
maybe in the previous thread
I’m not gloating at all, Tate. I just wondered what the actual accusation was. And I had long moved on…
In the meantime, if it looks like I’m likely to be headed towards one of those care establishments because I can’t look after myself, even if they’re run by a bunch of pure Aryan Übermädchen, I’ll sit myself out in the garden without a coat on a really cold night with a bottle of gin and let nature take its course.
An eminently rational choice.
Suicide is forbidden by the Laws of Man and God. You would do this to your husband and daughters?
Not by the Laws of Man in your country or mine.
You seem less informed on the matter than I’d have expected.
You can find the legislation regarding your own country here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_legislation#United_States
If the authorities know you are planning on hurting yourself, they will take you into custody. As it should be. I am sympathetic to people not wanting to prolong a terminal illness, either because of the pain or the expense. But that’s quite a different thing if looked at aright. Oregon allows it I believe. But there are the damnable cases in between – people who might want to end it for less than terminal cases. A very steep slippery slope.
“If the authorities know you are planning on hurting yourself, they will take you into custody.”
The law in my country is possibly not the same as yours.
A person may be ‘sectioned’ here (detained under the relevant section of the mental health act) if they seem likely to harm themselves or others, generally if they seem in a state of crisis or distress.
They cannot be prosecuted for an attempted suicide. Suicide may be an entirely calm and rational act – and has been for many people. What is still illegal here is assistedsuicide, so a person helping you out of your physical or mental pain could be prosecuted (but may not be, according to the circumstances).
If the act of suicide were illegal you could be prosecuted if you tried and failed, as used to be the case many years ago.
And if a manipulative person with a personality disorder, for instance, keeps threatening repeatedly to top themselves, as an attention-seeking device, they’re just as likely to be told by a psychiatric professional that it’s their right to do so if they so wish. Which it is. But in most cases they won’t.
You can be done for disturbance of the peace if you attempt suicide in public, though. One such repeat threatener stood on the North Bridge beside Princes St here threatening to jump onto the railway below. Traffic had to be kept off the Bridge for ages while police and health professionals tried to talk him down. He’d done it repeatedly before. Eventually he did actually jump (or fall) but didn’t kill himself.
Far from being prosecuted, he ended up in a wheelchair with a broken spine, being cared for at great expense by the taxpayer. At home.
People have rights. You can’t even force a person to take medicine that would keep them alive unless you can prove they’re not of sound mind, because, legally, that would be assault.
“You can be done” – chilling words. One time a real English girl (a White Briton) was in class when the teacher told people to split into groups based on where they were sitting. She was sitting with Iranian girls who would deign to include her by speaking English. She got up to find another table or at least sit by herself. The teacher (a woman) freaked out, and starting screaming at her for being a racist, and how she was going to call the police and they would “do her”.
What an Evil place! Equal parts 1984 and Brave New World.
Janos
Please stop talking drivel based on your (quite excusable) ignorance of British colloquial English. As an agenda-driven individual, you obviously don’t take the trouble to investigate such nuances. I at least look up American colloquialisms I find on here if they’re relevant to a response.
In my example, ‘done’ is a harmless colloquialism for being charged by the police. Like a burglar being ‘done’ for burgling, as you’d expect.
Your anecdote is meaningless without a reputable source. Amren is not reputable in the context.
Amren posts genuine articles from all over the English speaking world. I’ve explained this to you before.
Should you come across the word ‘collared’, it means the same thing (well, arrested anyway)…
http://www.policemag.com/cop-slang/collar.aspx
https://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/have+your+collar+felt.html
…and has no connection with any kind of medieval torture involving chains and cast-iron necklaces, even if you’d like it to.
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-slave-memorial-41293928.html?
Now, when someone mentions collard greens, I’ll have a mental image of environmentalists under arrest.
Possibly these good people:
https://theintercept.com/2018/07/17/trans-mountain-pipeline-tar-sands-canada-us-kinder-morgan/
Elrond
Good luck to them. I hope they’re not collared as a sacrifice to the Oil Gods But I’m beginning to think all resistance is pointless. Including to the more egregious fuckwittery on this website.
…with specific reference to the ‘Pizzagate’ loons today and Malthuss’ panoramic, scattergun desperation.
I’m not planning on putting myself in the tender care-givers hands’, I can tell you that. I’m sure the proscriptions against suicide in scripture are intended for the young & fit.
Despite having seen TV exposés of extremely poor treatment in some infamous nursing homes (often/generally closed down once they’re looked into) I have personal experience of having relatives in them who were treated with enormous care and respect. I also have a friend whose mother has been in a council-run home here for 6 years and the care is absolutely faultless.
There are many carers in homes who even run errands for their charges in their own personal time because they actually *care* about them. I knew one personally.
It’s not the standard of care that worries me. It’s the fact that I don’t want to be around once I can’t look after myself in the most basic ways. And I don’t want the value of my home to disappear in a couple of years for no good reason as I’d like my family to get some benefit from it.
You’d be lucky to wind up at a place like that. I’ve known of quite a few elderly relatives of friends who were warehoused in long-term/elder care facilities staffed by less than professional Millennials and abusive flowers of diversity. If the system lasts long enough, that will be my fate too. Unfortunately, once I passed out dead drunk when it was 50 below (Northern Minnesota) and woke up a few hours later anyway. That set a bad precedent.
“Rule of law?”
Really?
That particular phrase has become an oxymoron. And like so many contradictions of modern civilization – no more than a conversational “suffix” that often ends any didactic attempt to interpret legal jurisprudence.
The above comments I just authored are easily the most profound and interesting statements ever posted on CF Nation. Period!
🙂
Isn’t Lisa Page currently testifying for her second day? Didn’t the Republican members praise her willingness to answer questions? The only one I recall refusing to testify before a congressional committee is Steve Bannon. What gives?
BOP, our host is not presenting the facts correctly.
Lisa Page has cooperated fully with Congress. She appeared in private in Congress, answered all their questions, and was praised by the Republicans.
Then the Republicans made the decision to not put her on public show trial, after they got their asses whupped by Peter.
Lisa Page never ignored any subpoena. It is false to say Lisa Page “declined to testify before a congressional committee because she didn’t feel like it” … although it would be perfectly understandable after the waste of ten hours of 75 Congresspersons’ time grilling her lover.
After Trump’s treasonous performance today Hillary Clinton is completely vindicated. In the debate with Trump she said on Oct. 20, 2016:
“You encouraged espionage against our people. You are willing to spout the Putin line, sign up for his wish list: break up NATO, do whatever he wants to do. You continue to get help from him because he has a very clear favorite in this race. I am not quoting myself — I am quoting 17 intelligence [agencies]. Do you doubt 17 civilian and military intelligence agencies?”
“Our country has no idea,” Trump answered.
After the weakness Trump showed today our country is getting an idea.
Oh Janet, you must live in the alternate universe where the Russians didn’t give Hillary’s foundation $140 million for “fixing” the Uranium One deal. They call it “gaslighting”, accusing others of your own sins.
And if 17 deep state, globalist, Rothschild agents all parrot the same line, it’s just like the MSM talking points – all precisely repeated because they originate with the same controlling source. And that evil source needs to be flushed out if humanity has any future as free people. Yes, I’m talking about your lord and master, Janet.
Many of those 17 are Trump appointments not deep state, including the Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats who briefed Trump and later distanced himself from Donald “Neville Chamberlain” Trump’s display of weakness to Putin.
Coats shot back on Monday afternoon in a statement sent from DNI’s official email service, stating unequivocally that Russia not only interfered in the election, but that its “efforts to undermine our democracy” are ongoing.
Those who defend Trump’s surrender to our enemies are traitors to America.
Well look at you, Janet the Patriot. Sorry I’m not buying it.
You are pro-globalist, pro open borders, pro-Antifa terrorism, pro international law superseding US law.
You hate the US Constitution, the right to bear arms, free speech for those you disagree with.
And apparently you believe the deep state has the right to over rule elections if their candidate does not win.
You are no patriot, Janet. And saying Trump “has surrendered” America is the kind of absurdist Orwellian doublespeak typical of your kind.
Don’t fall for this congenital troll’s disingenuous shtick.
Satiric posts to bate a response. Exaggeration for effect.
You may be right 100thAvatar, these sludge buckets that come here to attack and deride are doing a fine job of screwing up the worthwhile exchanges and making a lot of us question why we go to the effort to support this site. I think we need to concentrate on why we come here and that is to support our host and his excellent work and do a better job of ignoring the ignorant distractions. I promise to work on this myself, it has become very frustrating and I want it help put an end to it.
Well, I expect to be called a troll by the left-wing Avatar. But you disappoint me, Walter.
And why, may I ask is that hmuller?
@hmuller: I’m afraid you’re confused. I was referring to troll Asoka, Janet, WPA
My apologies, Avatar.
If you didn’t encourage her, Janet dammit might regurgitate her indoctrination once or twice and then leave. Me, I got too much time on my hands.
Hey Jim,
What Trump did today in Helsinki was deeply disturbing, even for him. For a guy that frequently discusses American decline, you’d have to agree. Maybe you should go back to writing about town and city planning….I liked you better when you wrote about those issues!:)
What did he do today that is so disturbing? I guess talking with the man who controls the other million or so nuclear warheads is disturbing. Maybe we should just pretend that Russia is the ultimate enemy and blow them up in order to satisfy the Democrats, even though Rodham would undoubtedly have talked with Putin long before now.
The God Brothers, Trump and Putin, need to divide much of this world between them.
Uh, shotho, did you watch the conference? A visitor from Mars could easily pick up what was going on. It’s not that difficult to realize that whatever Putin has on Trump, is deeply compromising.
I understand how JHK’s recent foray into reality and realpolitik can be very disturbing to all the leftist idiots he is apparently leaving behind. I’m sure you can find a support group. Maybe they will tell you what you want to hear like: Putin is threatening Trump with Novichok or some other MI-6 inspired bullshit.
Isn’t Kris referring to the Trump pee-pee porn video?
I wouldn’t say anything word-based would worry President Trump – he’s destroyer in chief of meaning; that’s his talent
But Mr Putin has just that edge of smirk that suggests he’s seen the vids
I will admit I have not paid any attention to what has transpired today in Helsinki, but I do think people are getting a bit unhinged about Russia. Putin is a thug, but he is a thug with thousands of nuclear weapons and we need to deal with him.
Stephen Kotkin, professor of history at Princeton, has a lot to say at this link that I think is worthwhile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnWp_kr4tfc
“Putin is a thug,”
Epicure,
…Really? Why would you say that? Please couch your answers considering the actions of other leaders of Nuclear states. For extra credit, do not use the French as an example.
As an Epicurean, he is excessively delicatio, not understanding the realities of blud and ‘oil. A Generalissimo is a kind of thug, just as a thug is a kind of generalissimo. It’s all scale and perspective, with legitimacy bought with money and power and those bought with blood or the threat of the same.
A corollary: Madoff saying correctly that he did nothing that the Federal Government didn’t do on a greater scale. Btw, it’ fine to create money out of nothing, as long as one is good like God and will the good of the people. But only such a Government has the right to do so, not any individual. But ours is not such a government nor is that the system as written in the Constitution which, barbarically enough, ties our currency to silver and gold or bimetallism.
Perhaps I am delicate or perhaps I know something that most Nietzschean ubermenschen do not seem to know: that in modern times most ubermenschen wind up dead at the hands of a coalition of untermenschen.
I know what joy a man can feel when a dangerous enemy is dead. If more of the ubermenschen knew that feeling they might be a little more careful about throwing their weight around and making enemies – that’s all. I’ve known several killers in my life, the ones that live to old age learn to be careful.
BTW, I do think Putin is careful. He definitely understands power and how to play his hand.
I call Putin a thug because his actions are overt and brutal, taking what he wants when he thinks he can get a way with it, with very little pretense that it is anything else (reference Checnya, Crimea). I will admit that at least in Georgia and the Donbass he did try to put something of a fig leaf on his actions. I understand his claim on the Crimea and I understand that he had no reason to believe he could achieve his aims in any other way – it was still an overt power grab on a par with the US war on Mexico. Many of his neighbors, on the Baltic, e.g. have little doubt that he would move on them if he though he could get away with it, nor do I.
While the west has done plenty of the same there is usually more in the way of attempts at justification or delusions that it is being done for “the greater good” and/or some attempt at negotiations. I have no illusions about the actions of the west, or any human group, and no great admiration for any of our recent leaders, but they are restrained somewhat by “the opinions of mankind”.
I accept that Putin is a realist, acting as he does in what he sees as Russia’s interest. The only pretense of a “greater good” is that he thinks his way will lead to greater stability (he may even be right).
Epic,
I do not think that the difference between a genteel leader and a thug involves attempts at justification. Putin, as a Russian leader, ostensibly working in behalf of the Russian people, can field many points, all reasonable justification for his actions in Crimea and Ukraine. The actions are reasonable to his perspective.
Putin enjoys a general approbation of the Russian people.
Idi Amin was truly a thug. He had bad personal habits, and it was said that he ate his enemies’ livers with his mouth open….
We might agree that a “Thug” is a violent, criminal. Even the Demon Sow does not fit that definition.
I have never been all that upset about Russia’s alleged interference in the 2016 US presidential election. After all, the US has been interfering in foreign elections for decades and even overthrown governments when it did not like election outcomes (e.g Iran 1953).
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made a big mistake in 2014 when she encouraged Ukrainians to overthrow their government for one more friendly to the West. Did she think Russia was going to do nothing and watch Ukraine eventually join NATO and turn its Sevastopol naval base into a NATO base? Sevastopol is located on the Crimea peninsula and was the old Soviet Union’s only warm water naval base. Crimea had been a part of the Russian empire since 1783 when it had been annexed from the Ottoman Empire. When Nikita Khrushchev transferred Crimea to Ukraine in 1956, it was for administrative reasons. Many of its residents were ethnic Russians. No one in the Soviet Union ever expected the country to break up. Poor Hillary got bad advice from neo-cons like Victoria Nuland and Ukraine ended up being the big loser.
I am pleased that Trump and Putin are at least talking. How many American parents would want to see their sons going to war over Ukraine? The US should stop trying to impose its democratic ideas abroad and worry about political corruption at home. All too often, our major political offices are for sale to the biggest spenders. Our campaigns cost too much and last too long.
Yeah, Nuland was actually over there in Ukraine helping the US position. And this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaR1_an9CnQ
Revenge. Putin didn’t serve it up cold, he served it up frozen.
Trite, but Russians play chess
I’d focus my concerns on how well an extremely corrupt and nearly failed-state maintains its 15 nuclear power units at four nuclear power plants. Besides, I don’t consider destroying secular MENA states or helping the Saudis exterminate Houthis as imposing democratic ideas.
Damn, the Dems are howling and McCain blasts Trump on the Putin meeting.
But here’s a spy you can’t deny:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-arrested-charged-acting-russian-agent-us-192656683.html
Attack of the Flying Monkeys
Finca, July 16, 2018 at 7:18 am:
In my opinion, he specifically provokes them to revolt.
Is there a body double in Helsinki, and Trump himself is in Washington secretly sitting in an ambush?!
http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/hope-and-change-are-at-hand/#comment-360459
I invented this story with Trump sitting in an ambush and fell asleep. And slept for 8 hours!
I wake up, and Putin quite officially handed over to Trump the dirt – compromat – on Hillary!
And Trump accepted this compromising evidence, now in the official capacity of the President of the United States, that is, did what he was accused of by Mueller.
KGB won again! There is another way for the world, except for National Socialism!!!
The best part of that story is that Putin handed over the materials within the framework of existing agreement between United States and Russia on joint anti-terrorist action, signed a few years back by President Obama.
The materials handed over will be qualified as legitimate evidence by any US court of law.
Hey Janos,
You predicted years ago that the left coast is going to hell, and probably don’t need further evidence. But it’s Monday, and I give you further proof. The San Jose Public Library is now featuring kiddie story-time with a drag queen.
I’m shocked,
Jen in San Jose
You got it Jen!
Names, dates, records, safe houses, passwords – the whole nine yards!
Oh, this Helsinki!
Thats better than a NAMBLA meeting, next to the childs section [this really happened].
Maybe the San Francisco public library carries a book entitled: Sanctimonious Sandy shovels sidewalk shit salutarily.
Excellent, may I add to your tongue-twister:
Sanctimonious Sandy shovels sidewalk shit salutarily, while sashaying past seriously scary syringes.
Jen
What happened to you a few weeks ago when you supported war monger Nikki Haley?
Not just in San Jose btw: giving kids over to the Queens is a “thing” now, believe it or not. And as the old man in Innsmouth said, It’s not what those devils have done, but it’s what they’re a gonna do that you should be scared of.
They probably see 12 lane highways, guns and cheese doodles and their parents think that is a good idea. The odd drag queen won’t hurt them. Remember fairy tales? Monsters and frogs turning into princesses
Remember how Trump mentioned the story of failed terrorist act in St, Petersburg thanks to materials handed to Russia by US intelligence?
This guy wastes no words!
I have no problem with criticism of Trump, there’s a lot deserving of criticism with him. However, what I find ludicrous is for Democrats and other deep staters to claim that they are a sane alternative. They are functional anarchists whose political views are akin to the belief system of the most deranged of religious cults.
When you are under attack do you ask about “sane alternatives” or do you defend yourself? Putin is attacking the USA right now. Now is a time for patriots to stand up, red, blue, green, etc. but stand up! Trump has sided with the KGB, GRU, and Putin while condemning the EU, and USA intelligence agencies.
Still bitter that your Marxist soul mates got chased out of Russia?
Or do you just love a bloated defense department and intelligence community feeding off a manufactured Russian bogeyman and bilking the US taxpayers for trillions?
If the deep state spies on the Russians more, will they spy on the American people less? Very Doubtful.
And what is the big Russian crime? Buying a laughably tiny amount of advertising on Facebook? Fine, burn Zuckerberg in the town square.
Trump Says He Doesn’t Know Whether To Believe US Intelligence or Putin and Calls US “Stupid”
https://thetrumpimpeachment.com
The Russian spy arrested today, Butina, came to the U.S. under the direction of an unnamed Russian official, who based on the description, appears to be her longtime mentor, Alexander Torshin. A former member of the Russian parliament, Torshin is one of President Vladimir Putin’s closest allies and is now deputy governor of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation.
The twelve ham sandwich named Butina is facing up to five years in prison. No ham sandwich can rest easy.
No worries Janet — NATO is safe for now. Uh, that is what you wanted, right?
“Tragically, the American public is led to take this ploy seriously by a morally compromised news media, especially CNN and the The New York Times. The latter outfit is so afflicted with a case of the Russian meddling vapors that it ran this laughable headline at the top of its front page yesterday: “Just Sitting Down With Trump, Putin Comes Out Ahead.” Gosh, what’s the message there? Don’t even bother talking to foreign heads of state, especially in the interest of improving relations?”
Cue Ron-on sentence:
Well, when a large chunk of the public are so impressionable, so vulnerable to manufactured consent, the kind manufactured in a corporate media/deep state bureaucracy (infiltrated and controlled by the outgoing administration and its appointed successor), you get the type of dimwits given to histrionics, like she-wolf/georges and Janet/wpa who not only digest it but, regurgitate word-for-word. Successfully programmed partisans.
If she isn’t being paid by the post, you have to admire her pertinacity. A lie needs to be told often in order to become believed. You should watch the documentary: The Century of the Self, on YouTube. Sigmund and Anna Freud and Edward Bernays knew exactly how easily manipulated the stupids were and how proud useful idiots are when they repeat their list of talking points. All they really did was to codify thousands of years of manipulation by sociopaths so the dumber sociopaths could play too.
All the Traitors are accusing Trump of being a traitor. Imagine Trump not believing the “Intelligence Community” that tried to destroy him! Or people like Schumer, McCain, or Ryan. The Neo-Liberals and Neo-Cons are united in their hatred. Is this going to be the basis of some impeachment attempt? Twelve ham sandwiches or shit on rye?
Today is the beginning of Lindbergh’s vision of a united Northern World. They called him similar names, like “isolationist” and Anti-Semite”. The same people are still here, still wreaking havoc in our beloved country. Don’t believe them. Trump is the Patriot, not the Media and those behind the Media, or those in debt to those behind the Media.
Well said, Janos. I have to chuckle at Janet’s utter hysteria tonight.
The Russians Are Coming!!! And They’ll Take Over Our Voting Booths, Rape Our Women, Eat Our Babies, And Trump Is Helping Them!!!
Maybe Janet is actually 5 fat white guys in the FBI or CIA basement – in a panic as they see their world of lies and propaganda torn to shreds.
Unlike the indictments of all the other 26 Russians, the indictment of Maria Betina was here and they have arrested her. The indictment was a collusion indictment. US citizens were described but not named. There is going to be a trial, unlike in the case of the twelve Russians from GRU.
The NRA is involved. Setting up back channels for communication are involved. Collusion is involved. Mueller has the Russians dead to rights. They followed the money to the same funds used to set up malicious domains for spear phishing in the United States. Anybody who was involved, including American citizens, was involved in collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian attacks on American democracy. The same people who were stealing things from Hillary Clinton.
We now can have a better appreciation of how much information Mueller has. He knows the names of the Russian intelligence officers, the American co-conspirators, everybody. Mueller is building the case in a thorough manner, like you would to trap and take down a drug kingpin. Nothing to do with ham sandwiches, JHK,
It is important to be clear-eyed and specific to respond to Putin’s attacks on America. … Semper Fi!
Semper bullshit, lil’ j-bot!
You sure as hell better be a Marine or ex-Marine if you’re gonna type “Semper Fi”, “Janet”
No ham sandwiches have been arrested, unlike the Russian Maria Butina. This photo of Wisconsin Governor, Scott Walker, posing with indicted Russian agent, Maria Butina, and Russian mafia don, Alexandr Torshin.
https://i1.wp.com/www.politicalorphans.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/scott-walker.jpeg?w=684&ssl=1
The corruption runs deep. Time for patriots to stand up. Lock and load. The Russians are here. America is under attack.
Bet it’s hard to sleep under the bed every night, what with that hard floor and all the creepy crawlies that come out in the night. I think one of them crawled up your ear and is gnawing on your brain.
Ham sandwiches are not subject to Title 18, U.S. Code, sections 371 (Conspiracy) and 951 (Agents of Foreign Governments), but Maria Butina was arrested. Here is the detailed proof of collusion between Russian intelligence, Donald Trump, the NRA, and “Political Party 1”
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1080766/download
We have had 44 presidents before Trump. None of them has ever acted on behalf of a hostile foreign power like Trump the Putin puppet. Trump has violated the oath he took to protect the United States.
Right now, today, Putin is attacking the United States, taking aim at the midterm elections and planning to subvert the 2020 presidential election.
Time for Oath Keepers to step up. This is the time for members of Congress to step up. We have an agent of a foreign power occupying the White House.
Where do you come up this tripe, lil’ j-bot? Is it all scripted or do they allow you to improv from time to time? The “foreign powers” you speak of have been in power since JFK, with a marked ramp up in their ambitions after 9-11. Want to watch them scurry like cockroaches? Just say one word: TRIBUNALS.
nAd for those that still cling to the idea that the 2016 election result was not changed by the Russians, a little bit of math:
Pennsylvania: 48.18% vs 47.46. Difference of 0.72%, That means if 0.37% of voters flipped their votes based on the information released by the Russians, then Russia flipped Pennsylvania. That translates into one out of 270 voters.
Michigan: 47.50% vs 47.27. Difference of 0.23%, translates into one out of 833 voters needed to change their vote based on the info.
Wisconsin: 47.22% vs 46.45%. Difference of 0.77%, translates into one out of 256 voters.
If people don’t believe that there were not that percent of undecided who were swayed by the Russian information, or by Comey’s statements just before the election, then you may as believe in little green men on Mars.
The entire 2016 election results were illegitimate, and all subsequent laws/ appointments were fruit of a poisoned tree.
And to think that the voting machines in the upcoming elections have not or will not be hacked is also naive, mortally naive, especially when Trump the puppet tyrant stated to the world today that he believes Putin over every intelligence agency in the U.S., including Trump’s own appointment, the Director of National Intelligence.
Janet, it seems to me that you could use this same argument to say that Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity colluded to make Trump win.
Mr. Trump has angered 30 out of 51 Republican senators, he must be doing something right!
Mr. Trump has accomplished more than I had hoped for, I thought he would do that by accident not on purpose.
Can anyone name one public official or civil servant that has been in the media in the last year that you would trust enough to leave a Jackson on the table and walk out of the room?
“We’re going to have a “service sector” economy”, bet you didn’t think you were going to get serviced like this.Remember the joke that asked the question was the proctologist left handed or right handed?
Exceptional, indispensible – – – insufferable.
Career civil servant, the ultimate consumer, poster person for Taleb’s IYI. My best days are past but I bet I could still get that smirk off that assholes face. Which one? Line em up and I’ll let you know when I get tired.
Isn’t the conservative mantra “You’re on your own”? Well you better hope the fuck not, as was pointed out in Pogo “I have seen the enemy”. We did this to ourselves, sow hatred, reap disaster.
“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.” Herbert – Dune
The choice is ours -Fear or Freedom
I’m warming to the man now. Can’t believe they haven’t taken him out yet, but an assassination or possibly even an impeachment trial would certainly lift the lid off the roiling cauldron of discontent among his followers. Bet the high and mighty neolibs won’t be so freaking haughty then!
I am convinced that the Trump sucks, Trump sucks, Trump sucks movement is specifically designed to drive people into his arms and it is doing an unbelievable job in accomplishing that. I never liked the man at all, but the more they attack him, the better he looks. If you are pissing off the fools to the extent that he is, he has to be doing something right.
Another good quote from Herbert,
“For what do you hunger, Lord?” Moneo ventured.
“For a humankind which can make truly long-term decisions. Do you know the key to that ability, Moneo?”
“You have said it many times, Lord. It is the ability to change your mind.” – Moneo and Leto II
[ change mind = Repent ]
http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2018/07/how-californias-cal-3-initiative-will.html?m=1
The blogger thinks the Left will fight this tooth and nail. One of of his commentators says No, because of each of the new states will have a Democratic majority and thus the Dems will pick up new Senators. Anyone have a learned opinion? Who is behind this initiative? And is the commentator right about the proposed Southern California? No Cal (San Francisco) and coastal Cali (LA and San Diego) will be Blue. But he thinks even the inland South will be. If so, how could the Captain be so wrong? Or are the borders still up in the air?
Chris Wallace interviews Russian President Vladimir Putin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHY8yG4mVzs
Putin refuses to take Muller’s indictments as if it’s something dirty, and then while answering Chris Wallace question whether he considers this indictments to be an attempt to sabotage his meeting with president Trump, Putin says that indictments are indictments and only court can decide whether they are true or not.
And then he implied that some kind of court should take place, and that American officials will be able to question those who are hypothetically guilty of meddling in US elections, but the most important thing is whether false information was spread, because spreading the truth hardly can be considered “meddling”.
In exchange Putin expects Russian officials to be allowed to question Mr. Browder who managed to make 1.5 billion dollars by illegally buying shares of Russian companies.
400 million of this 1.5 billion went to Clinton’s campaign, but if documents transferred to Trump are accepted in American court, Mr. Browder’s trades worth hundreds of billions dollars will appear to be illegal!
It is regarding a well-known case of “Hermitage Capital” firm of Bill Browder. According to Russian investigation, a Mr. Browder together with his business partners, illegally earned more than $1.5 billion in Russia, did not pay taxes either in Russia or in the United States, but transferred this money to the United States: $400 million was sent to the Clinton’s election campaign.
There are reasons to believe that some members of the US intelligence services were involved in these illegal transactions.
Of course, this is the visible part of the iceberg, which the both leaders agreed to voice out during the Helsinki Summit; there is much more which is still not public.
Since it could be proven that some of the money were used to support various kinds of domestic and international terrorism, it falls under jurisdiction of the joint cooperation agreement between US and Russia for combating international terrorism, signed in 2013 by President Obama and President Putin.
It is completely legal under that agreement for President Putin to hand over relevant information to President Trump.
It all revolves around the principle of Moral Equivalence and whether all people were created by one God
WASHINGTON—House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) today issued the following statement:
“There is no question that Russia interfered in our election and continues attempts to undermine democracy here and around the world. That is not just the finding of the American intelligence community but also the House Committee on Intelligence. The president must appreciate that Russia is not our ally. There is no moral equivalence between the United States and Russia, which remains hostile to our most basic values and ideals. The United States must be focused on holding Russia accountable and putting an end to its vile attacks on democracy.”
https://www.speaker.gov/press-release/statement-russia
Clintonoid Paul Ryan repeats what Joseph Stalin, who received an excellent theological education, called an American Heresy
The 20th century cold war myth still holds sway in the feeble brains of the MICC and it’s watercarriers. They’re holding on for dear life now. Expect an epic battle ahead. US war crimes tribunals in our lifetimes? One can only hope!
Is it not unbelievable that the demented Dulles brothers could have done such a thorough job of bamboozling the nation that it still holds sway today? I can understand the MIC needing an enemy to battle, but are the Chinese not a far greater threat to assume World dominance after America loses its grip? The math certainly supports this idea, does it not?
Allen Dulles just started the process by striking a separate peace with the Nazi Germany in May of 1945.
Behind the back of Hillary Cliton looms Middle Eastern ODESSA and Martin Bormann’s NSDAP money, which were invested in oil exploration – it is enough to type in Google “Getty Nazis” where Getty is the name of a man who, with the help of the Nazis, found great Middle Eastern oil, which not only allowed the legalization of Bormann’s NSDAP money, but also tied the United States to the Greater Middle East, making Americans puppets in someone else’s game.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ODESSA
As for Military Industrial Complex – it is only as bad as it was infiltrated by Clinton’s Flying Monkeys, which resulted in sky-high prices and low quality.
Ah, high prices and low quality, the formula for maximum profit, which is as we all have been told so often these days, THE most important aspect of business. My how things have changed, er, I mean degraded.
” Russia, which remains hostile to our most basic values and ideals”
Komraden Finc (or may I call you Herr Bergbauer?),
I realize that the above quote is not your own, but I would like you, or any other reader to tell me which of our basic values and ideals Russia is hostile to? Which Ideals the US actually promotes and holds dear?
Currently I cannot think of any.
Dare we digress from the dominant theme and take note of MIT scientists discovering (positing?) an extraordinary amount of diamond 100 miles beneath the earth’s surface?
There is a lesson here: from Metro.co.uk, asserting “scientists just unearthed an eye-watering hoard of diamonds, so valuable it would completely destroy the world’s economy.”
Imagine some poor peasant leaning on a shovel working the road crew in outer Mongolia, or the Peruvian flute maker closing up shop for the day when they get texted by their significant others: “OMG! Diamonds out the yin-yang! You won’t get paid! We are doomed!”
Money proves Sapiens’ signal feature is simply making things up out of whole cloth and acting as if it were objectively true, as real as the stones beneath one’s feet. Usable fictions certainly, as they allow cooperation and intercourse among those who agree, but ultimately fiction.
You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.
Help me understand:
Yes, the Russians “meddled” in the 2016 election. Now please tell me, without interference by anyone, (of course ALL nation-states act in their own self-interest, and none of them is above “meddling” if they feel that their candidate of choice will do something beneficial to them) just what states that were won by Trump would have swung over to Hillary’s column. Next, please give concrete examples of vote tampering by the Russians that caused Clinton votes to be recorded as Trump votes. Other than that please tell me how “Russian meddling” affected the 2016 election.
The truth was on display in Helsinki. A smiling and obviously pleased Mr. Putin seemed relished the moment, almost too much. His comment, “the ball is in your court” offered us all a symbol of what Putin has achieved: a badly compromised American President, listing severely, subject to Putin’s veiled agenda.
To call this a Russian interference is true, but more precisely this a Putin accomplishment, a victory reflective of his singular influence, personality and character: dark, reminiscent of evil.
“The truth was on display in Helsinki. A smiling and obviously pleased Mr. Putin seemed relished the moment, almost too much. His comment, “the ball is in your court” offered us all a symbol of what Putin has achieved: a badly compromised American President, listing severely, subject to Putin’s veiled agenda.”
Camel,
You might also suggest, that, with a video of Trump walking on water, that he did so because he could not swim….
Or, “take care to make a bad impression on undesirables.”
A personal favorite of mine.
Camel,
Other than offering a civil greeting, your method has merit.
but are the Chinese not a far greater threat to assume World dominance after America loses its grip?
I am not inclined to believe that China has an Empire-building aspirations, except in economic area.
President Trump agrees with me, calling the real foe of America the Fourth Reich of Angela Merkel, aka European Union.
“I am not inclined to believe that China has an Empire-building aspirations, except in economic area.”
Herr Bergbauer,
…Then the South China Sea and it’s various disputed islands are only economic concerns? Taiwan?
What is percentage of Chinese export/import is carried through a South China Sea? 60%? 70%?
What economic effect the blockade of Cuba had on the Freedom Island?
“What is percentage of Chinese export/import is carried through a South China Sea? 60%? 70%?”
Komraden!
No doubt, but the argument works both ways…the rest of the world also relies, to a similar extent, on those shipping lanes. The Chinese are claiming hegemony in that area…they are projecting military power. Could this be the beginning of a 21st Century “South-East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere”?
Your argument presents military and political considerations, as well as simple economic projections.
And what of the construction of aircraft carriers and aircraft carrier busting cruise missiles? Are they arming up as an act of friendship?
https://chinapower.csis.org/aircraft-carrier/
https://www.cleveland.com/world/index.ssf/2010/08/chinese_aircraft-carrier-kille.html
I am always amazed at civilians who see the buildup of armaments as signs of continuing peace rather than buildups for future wars.
I would like you, or any other reader to tell me which of our basic values and ideals Russia is hostile to? Which Ideals the US actually promotes and holds dear? –elysianfield
America in individualistic. Russia is communal/state oriented. In America the individual is sacred, the bill of rights is to protect the individual. In Russia the state is the highest good and individuals are sacrificed, en masse, to protect the state. Wholesale massacres of hundreds of thousands of American citizens has never happened in the United States.
For example, Russia has had a secret police since the sixteenth century when Tsar Ivan the Terrible established his Oprichnina to root out opposition. In the United States some say the FBI is a “secret police” … Can you imagine an agent of the Russian equivalent of the FBI being grilled and insulted for ten hours by the Russian parliament, and then released and allowed to continue in his job like Peter S.? Russia does not honor and protect the individual rights.
In Russia over three and a half million (3,778,000) Soviet citizens were sentenced for counterrevolution activity or crimes against the state from 1930 to 1953. The KGB openly admits that 786,000 were shot to death in those 23 years.
When, in the history of the United States, has a secret police murdered hundreds of thousands of people in purges or pogroms to protect the state?
All the CFN claims about a nefarious and evil “deep state” are laughable when you compare the USA “deep state” to the wholesale slaughter of hundreds of thousands of citizens in Russia.
So says Janet, conveniently forgetting that US is standing on top of the largest Indian cemetery in the world.
The massacre of the Native American population was not a massacre of people the state considered citizens, as was the case in Russia. Nor was the massacre of Native Americans conducted by “deep state” secret police, as was the case of the KGB in Russia. I am referring to the murder of hundreds of thousands of CITIZENS in Russia in the 20th century. No such thing has ever in the United States, because we have basic ideals and values and a Bill of Rights that protect individuals from wholesale massacre of CITIZENS.
What you are saying is exactly a dualistic heresy I am constantly ranting about.
Next thing you’ll call Native Americans illegal immigrants.
I had to register just to reply to this (after reading this blog for a decade).
janet you are one sick individual. For someone who claims to “care”, you so clearly do not. You probably don’t even understand how incredibly sick and twisted your comment reveals you to be. Tribalism to the extreme, yet you probably support open borders and sanctuary laws. You have no idea what you actually think or believe, you’ve most likely never thought any of it through.
The US has 2.5 million people being tortured in prisons, does this matter to you? Of course it does not. Along with the millions of millions of dead and mutilated on our soil and around the world, none of it matters to you. It’s “them” that are bad.
According to the US Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS), 2,220,300 adults were incarcerated in US federal and state prisons, and county jails in 2013 – about 0.91% of adults (1 in 110) in the U.S. resident population.
I object to your characterization that they are being “tortured.” Are you another Russian interloper on CFN, unfamiliar with concepts like due process? How many of those 786,000 citizens shot by the KGB were read their rights and given a trial? None.
Different basic values. Different basic ideals.
Soviet Putin was KGB and Russian Putin still has the KGB mindset. Trump got rolled. America got nothing.
You are a sick person, and make me ashamed to have ever considered myself “left” or “liberal”.
As someone who had a father incarcerated because of the bullshit “drug war” in this country, I have personally seen the torture that goes on against millions of people in this country, and I have been personally abused by “law enforcement” as a young girl.
Shame on you. You have no idea what really goes on in other countries and it’s none of your damn business while people are killed and tortured regularly by this one.
r u new here?
Janet was busted, years ago.
^When, in the history of the United States, has a secret police murdered hundreds of thousands of ITS OWN CITIZENS in purges or pogroms to protect the state?
Well, never say never. Judging by the way things are going right now, you already have a few millions YOUR OWN CITIZENS who are willing to destroy their own state and tens of millions of their fellow citizens along with it.
“you already have a few millions YOUR OWN CITIZENS who are willing to destroy their own state and tens of millions of their fellow citizens along with it.” — finca
Nope. Hogwash. Fake news.
Closest we ever came, in a time of war, was the internment of 120,000 American citizens in concentration camps. They were not massacred. They were later released.
Then the USA government officially apologized decades later. Has the Russian government EVER apologized, or EVER offered reparations, for its murders of hundreds of thousands of citizens?
We have different basic values. Different basic ideals.
In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim.
Americans… Such real gentlemen – always apologise.
Did you apologise for destruction of the prosperous African country Libya? Paid reparations?
What about Christian Serbia? 500 pound bombs with “Happy Easter” written on them dropped on Belgrade during Orthodox Easter? Did you apologize?
“African country Libya” –finca
Moving the goalposts. We are talking about the difference in basic values and basic ideals. The USA values individual rights. Russia does not. The USA “deep state” or “secret police” does not shoot hundreds of thousands of its own citizens to protect the state.
Soviet Union/Russia does murder its own citizens… without due process… without a trial. Killing citizens since the Bolsheviks and the Petrograd Military Revolutionary Committee (PMRC). There is an alphabet soup of state actors responsible for the murders of Soviet/Russian citizens: OGPU, NKVD, MGB, KGB, SVR, FSB, FSO, etc. Google it. Read the work of Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn.
“The USA “deep state” or “secret police” does not shoot hundreds of thousands of its own citizens to protect the state.”
Not yet, but we aren’t taking any chances down here in Hickville. We have been shot up before — something about The Union. Of course, there was nothing secret about Blue versus Gray. Nor today is there anything secret about Blue versus Red, unless you count the National Security State to be in Red’s corner. You say Potayto, I say Potahto. Can’t we just leave it at that? Or are you proposing to force me to say Potayto?
“Read the work of Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn.”
Do you really mean that? All of his work?
“America in individualistic. Russia is communal/state oriented. In America the individual is sacred, the bill of rights is to protect the individual. In Russia the state is the highest good and individuals are sacrificed, en masse, to protect the state. Wholesale massacres of hundreds of thousands of American citizens has never happened in the United States.”
Well, that was then, and this is now…. Since the late 80’s, Russia has forsworn Stalinist techniques, and embraced a form of capitalism…Both countries have constitutions that outline basic rights of the citizen. Both countries…how is that working out? Do you feel all warm and fuzzy with your constitutional guarantees?
EF,
Russia is always going to be Russia. (Russia has security concerns that does not allow it to become like America.) And for those same reasons, America will always — in some form — be America. Russia at the present time allows about as much liberty to its citizens as it ever will. State-sponsored ideology should not overshadow the needs of our two nations to cooperate. A new world is being born under the auspices of President Trump — it’s called Realism. He may be a flawed man but let us pray that God protects our President from his enemies within & without the Deep State.
Tate,
From your lips to God’s ear.
Japanese tried to kill my uncles.
Germans tried to kill my father.
Vietnamese tried to kill my brother.
Blacks in Oakland California (more than once) tried to kill me.
Generally I hold no enmity to any of the above referenced groups…and to put a fine point on the argument, to paraphrase Mohammed Ali…”No Russian ever called me ‘Nigger'”. I would love for our countries to be and remain on friendly terms.
”No Russian ever called me ‘Nigger’”.
Russians IN USA do call Blacks ‘n—-.’
https://www.amren.com/commentary/2018/07/papa-john-burned-at-the-stake/
The magical power of words. It’s alright to say crap but not shit. The “N Word” but not the actual word Nigger. If you do, the Priesthood will destroy you. Meanwhile Blacks say it every other sentence. But they’re higher than we are. So saith the Priesthood. The eagerness with which Whites accept their inferiority is stunning, but then you remember that this allows them to destroy other Whites who don’t tow the line – and all is explained.
Sickening. This is the World which Trump is destroying. Bless the Destroyer and his Work. Before you can build you must destroy. Creation implies Destruction. Thus do Brahma and Shiva work together. But all is for naught without Vishnu who preserves and IS the field in which Brahma and Shiva play. Who remembers the Good that was, the prior creation that got old and uncool? Vishnu does, thus he is precious to people who have gotten old and uncool. Watching Me TV is a why of worshiping Him as Shiva mounts Nandi and begins to come for you. They’re friends and One will hand you over to the Other. Don’t fight and don’t kill yourself too soon, not until Shiva is there to catch you.
Thanks for that advice about Shiva, Janos, and for bringing the topic back to race. Racism is the central driver of CFN and the racist deplorables who still support Trump, who has shown his submission and weakness to the world.
” racist deplorables who still support Trump”
When you hate half the country that much, Janet, it’s hard to find much love and support.
I know it is not a very Christian thing to say, but sometimes I wonder if Stalin was right to shoot and Gulag several hundred thousand of “fellow citizen” but preventing the collapse of the Russian state, which, as the experience of the 90s in Russia showed, could cost tens of millions of lives.
It is not for nothing the Old Testament calls for extermination of Nation of Amalek and punished the Jews with expulsion from Israel for failure to do so.
“I wonder if Stalin was right to shoot and Gulag several hundred thousand of “fellow citizen” but preventing the collapse of the Russian state … It is not for nothing the Old Testament calls for extermination of Nation of Amalek and punished the Jews with expulsion from Israel for failure to do so.” –finca
Thank you, finca, for your defense of mass murder of citizens of the state by the state for the state. That further illustrates fundamental differences in basic ideals and values between USA and Russia.
And thanks for reminding us that CFN not just a haven for racists… it is also a disseminator of rabid antisemitism and homophobia.
rabid antisemitism and homophobia.!!!!!!!!
Peak oil through demand destruction. A new study by oil industry consultancy Wood Mackenzie predicts that the demand for oil will start to decline as early as 2036, when autonomous cars become more popular. That forecast comes much earlier than many big oil companies predicted. The world’s largest oil companies see it differently: they say their business will only continue to grow through the year 2040.
But many factors that affect future oil demand haven’t been factored in, says Bloomberg, which has laid out its analysis in detail. A combination of smaller changes could see oil production not growing, but waning, over the next few decades. About 60 percent of all oil is used for transportation, and that’s a sector expected to see incredible change.
New vehicle efficiency standards and emission limits around the world, improved aerodynamics in the highest-consuming vehicles, reduction of fuel waste, and smarter navigation have already begun to shrink the amount of fuel needed in the sector.
As electric cars become more practical to own, and more of them supplant vehicles that consume gasoline, more oil production yet will be displaced. Electric cars have the potential to eliminate another 5.2 million barrels of oil use from the original 2040 estimate—taking the figure below 90 million barrels.
Renewable, clean energy investment is also poised to disrupt the oil industry in a huge way. Despite the Trump administration’s efforts, the United States will still invest billions of dollars in clean energy over the coming years, as will China and Europe.
Biofuels, and the switch from coal to natural gas, could further eliminate another 13.5 million barrels of oil needed across the globe. The switch to clean energy and new fuels now brings the IEA baseline closer to 70 million barrels per day in 2040.
Some analysts and even oil companies have suggested peak oil will arrive sooner, possibly in the next five to 15 years. Although these are simply predictions based on available facts, the moral of the story remains the same: oil companies are in for a major market shift.
Forty-two, count ’em 42 posts by “janet’ thus far.
Maybe ‘janet’ really is 5 fat guys in the CIA basement.
LOL! Yes, Tate, you caught me. But, hey, although there is no minimum required post count, nor is there any payment per post, Langley does pay overtime! /s
Make that two fat guys in the CIA basement,
)):-]
MAGA
To the point of this week’s post. The use of the term “ham sandwiches” is to impugn the indictment. The 29-page indictment was very specific. Before an indictment is made it is vetted by multiple agencies. Evidence has to be available to support prosecution. The “ham sandwich” metaphor does not apply to Mueller’s investigation.
Mueller has already gotten multiple guilty pleas and sent people to prison, because there is a legitimate case of Trump-Russia collusion. It is not as Trump says a 400-pound guy who colluded. It was Alpha Bank, NRA, and millions of dollars to the Trump campaign. Follow the money. Look at Trump’s and Manafort’s acts, not their words.
It is not a witch hunt as Trump says. Congress should demand that Trump release his income tax returns to find out if he owes money to Russia or is in some other way compromised.
After watching the Trump, Putin press conference, my brother-in law texted me & said, “Hey, did you see Trump standing at the podium holding one of Putin’s balls? I laughed like crazy, & then thought “Wow, there’s a metaphor!”
After all that happened yesterday, JHK’s amendments to his post is limited to a “sorry not sorry about getting the central thesis of my comment about Lisa Page completely wrong, doesn’t matter anyway because facts just don’t matter any longer,” and the only criticism of yesterday’s goings-on are directed at… the news media.
Seriously — can Trump do nothing wrong? The (barely) metaphorical verbal fellatio he gave to Putin yesterday, especially in contrast to what he said about our allies and our own intelligence agencies, is apparently just fine with some people nowadays.
For not being a Trump supporter, JHK sure carries a lot of water for him…
Good video here about the origin of the term ‘fake news’, something I have asked about here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQcCIzjz9_s
On 13 September 2016, Sharyl Attkisson argues, Google’s parent company (Alphabet) funded a non-profit company called First Draft, which was funded around the start of the ‘election cycle’ to help the Clinton campaign. Trump took the term and turned it upon them. This is a TEDx talk, but an independent one using the TEDx format (in case anyone is wondering how they would allow such heresy).
should be ‘founded a non-profit company’
Reluctantly and shamefacedly, I just have to admit it. I’m a TWAT. (Trump Weary and Tired for those who don’t know). Today, this bumbling blowhard, trying to cover his ass, says he has full faith in US intel agencies. He lamely tweets “fake news” again, the words now falling flat in face of the reality the world witnessed.
I think he did okay with NATO. But the Putin meeting can’t help this November, and in 2020, if he runs, that video of the Putin bootlicker will run incessantly.
It now appears, more than ever, that Putin has his nuts in a vise.
I’m looking, but I see no one yet who can replace him and stand as strongly for the West and Whites.
Then there’s Chris Wallace grilling Putin like Trump wouldn’t, with Putin referencing killed US presidents, like see, you all are just like me.
And then Trump has to run to the Hannity hideaway.
Oh please Mr. Trump, please, let us have another tax cut. Destroy the national parks and monuments, we have to get the energy from somewhere, right? And then convince Merkel to buy it from us, not Russia. The fool. The blithering idiot.
MASA not MAGA
Smart, Grotesque
Let me put the cherry on top. Now Trump says he meant to say (in part at least to cover up the stupidity of his statement), “why WOULDN’T it be Russia?”
And reading from statements most likely prepared by someone else.
“Come on baby, let’s do the twist!”
Ah, Perfidia,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86ECqbRBuuI
Very nice.
‘Cause that’s the kind of scene that I dig
Those chicks were the ginchiest! (based on Kookie, Kookie)
Pretty tame – but vulgar – stuff compared to the Lindyhop and Swing. You could put your hands on that funky stuff in those dances.
Ginchiest? That made me think of Gidget and Moondoggie and movies like, “How to Stuff a Wild Bikini”. I didn’t know what that meant at the time, but I knew I liked it.
Oh I forgot, Tuscon. You said you were a TWAT.
So I was going to post this, but then I remembered that twist vid.
Anyway, here’s John Cooper Clarke:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-aVtKEhpO0
Helsinki 2.0 is Yalta 2.0?
Thanks to the Helsinki Summit, the theory of the Colored Projects is becoming a very applied science.
Unfortunately, because I failed to present it in a more or less coherent form before the need arose to apply it, and I completely omitted the political history of art, which is the source of the theory of Colored Projects.
Meanwhile, all the other theories, including Marxism and Western political science, can not explain the union of Putin’s Russia and Trump’s America, which we witnessed in Helsinki, and are forced to reduce everything to the Trump’s geopolitical summersaults.
They are not even able to recognize against whom Trump and Putin are friends, despite the fact that Trump not only does not hide this, but rather demonstratively shows his sympathies and antipathies, for example during his visit to the British Islands or at a NATO summit, and these demonstrations not by accident took place on the road to Helsinki.
From the standpoint of Western political science, Trump is a Russian spy, but whether this corresponds to reality does not bother anyone, since in the West we live in an era of postmodernism, and the truth is the collective opinion of experts.
And the “experts” in the West can not forget Gorbachev and all the time project themselves in the 80’s on today’s Russia. And from this point of view of particular interest is Theresa Mayhem, as the British elite have enough brains to understand that the treaties signed by Theresa with the European Union over Brexit are one to one the contracts signed by Gorbachev in Malta in the late 1980s and dealing with them to the English will be as difficult as to Russians dealing with the heritage of Gorbachev.
Well, from the point of view of the theory of world projects, I continue to assert that the alliance between Putin and Trump is not a whimsy, but the result of the coincidence of the national interests, if Russia is considered the product of the events described in the Tale of Bygone Years – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_Chronicle -, and the US is the product of the Anglo-Saxon civilization, and not the result of the “nation-building”.
I have already written that the main topic of talks between Trump and Putin, which can not be delayed, is the joint opposition to Hillary Clinton’s attempts to start a nuclear war despite losing in 2016.
They just came to the conclusion that the only effective way to combat this threat is to put Hillary behind bars. And Putin officially gave Trump the Browder case, which, unlike the materials sent through confidential channels, will be accepted by any court of law.
And the case of Browder’s of non-payment of either American or Russian taxes on $1.5 billion and the payment of the “saved” money to Hillary Clinton is a bomb not only because it allows the tax administration to be connected to the investigation of Hillary’s crimes, but it is subject to Mnuchin, who supports Trump, and because Browder illegally bought shares of Russian campaigns for a pittance, but also sold them in US for a pittance.
And one and half billion dollars is his 3% commission, but in fact it is about the shares, which then cost 50 billion, and the now could cost north of half a trillion dollars.
Momentum is out of control of President Trump’s hands. Germany already made its choice, it will be joined to Russia. NATO is a waste of time and US money. The sooner this is realized and acted upon, the better. President Trump, I think, instinctively already knows this. The EU countries will not pay their share to NATO, nevermind the decades upon decades in the rears that they owe.
The question now becomes what becomes to the rest Europe with Germany a satellite of Russia. First, you will see Germany in serious political and economic decline. Their EU project is a political and economic failure. Most Europeans now understand Germany to be the same as Hitler’s “Deutschland”.
Second, the new dominant force in Europe will be Eastern Europe, especially Poland. We could see new economic and political alliances and even an anti-German confederation of Eastern European countries. We’re already seeing this with the Visegrád Group. With the loss of the Euro, Germany’s economic advantages disappear. Germany will lose its economic markets as it already lost its political mindshare in Europe.
Third, Western Europe, especially France will continue to rot from the inside, with their Jihadi “youths” eventually burning down whole cities. We’re already seeing this happening as the Jihadists in Paris give their response to France wining the Mondial Cup. Of-course, none of the Jihadi riots arson and looting is shown or even talked about on the FAKE NEWS propaganda outlets. But it’s happening.
This talk of potential alliance of Russia with Germany against the US is a constant meme of Russian so-called “experts”, especially on the Soloviev’s talk show on Channel 1 Russian TV.
Personally, I tend to believe that their enthusiasm regarding Russian-German alliance comes not completely free of charge and is generously compensated from the funds of the Fourth Reich (essentially, with the stolen Russian money and still not returned).
Personally, I just do not see that happening, like in the word “ever”.
“Of-course, none of the Jihadi riots arson and looting is shown or even talked about on the FAKE NEWS propaganda outlets. But it’s happening.”
Seems well covered, I’d say. Lots of pics of …er…football fans here in the Daily Mirror, which is not alone as it was on the TV news as well:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/two-france-fans-die-violence-12927396
But whatever…
Seems a man in Annecy broke his neck jumping into a canal to celebrate. Some people do get very weird around football. Makes my fiver/tenner over the kitchen table look very twinset-and-pearls.
You lie! The words Muslims and Jihadists are never used, nor is it even hinted at in your report. As to why mass riots looting and arson should occur in France with France wining the soccer world championship, who is responsible, these questions are never asked. Furthermore, there was practically no TV coverage of this on the FAKE NEWS Vatican/CIA propaganda outlets, especially the US ones, even though these scenes are very “photogenic” shall we say. In other words, there’s a concerted effort to ignore and hide these things.
Also, Mrs Green, you have a habit of finding obscure reports and then claiming that these obscure and often non-relevant outliners are the mainstream norm. That’s another form of lying. And I’m not the only that made this point with you. It is the kind of dishonesty that Janos and the other Nazis posting here often engage in. Stop the defending the indefensible! Stop defending the lying media!
Akmofo
The Daily Mirror is not obscure or an outlier, It’s a Labour-supporting tabloid founded in 1903 and is far more widely read than the Guardian, which has always been a bit ‘niche’.
The riots also appeared on the BBC and Channel 4 News.
The Sun:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/world-cup-2018/6747528/france-football-fans-clash-riot-police-paris-world-cup-2018-semi-final/
The Daily Mail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5956427/French-fans-home-abroad-erupt-celebration-sides-second-World-Cup-triumph.html
The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/video/2018/jul/11/france-fans-celebrate-in-paris-after-side-reaches-the-world-cup-final-video
https://www.theguardian.com/football/video/2018/jul/16/police-and-football-fans-in-paris-clash-after-frances-world-cup-victory-video
The Telegraph:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/11/fans-clash-riot-police-french-world-cup-celebrations-turn-ugly/
The Independent:
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/world-cup-final-2018-france-win-croatia-violence-two-die-clashes-teargas-a8449021.html
I’m getting bored now. The riots in Derry/Londonderry, where the dissident republicans are rearing their ugly heads again, were also covered.
The jihadist angle in the French riots is your hypothesis.
Not one headline about Jihadists burning down cities.
Right, my hypothesis.. and a very strange and peculiar hypothesis it is.
You’re living in denial!
Elsewhere, ‘in Saint-Felix, there was another death when a man in his 30s crashed his car into a tree as he celebrated the win.”
The tree was heard to say ‘allahu akbar’ in a deep, throaty, tree-like voice as it embraced him and almost unseated the 72 virgins resting, between shifts, in its leafy canopy.
You know what they say about hammers and nails.
And you seem to have forgotten the role of reporters, as opposed to writers of opinion pieces (which are, in themselves perfectly legitimate as opinion pieces).
What reporters are supposed to do is report. And what they saw were rioters rioting, during celebrations in the capital, so that’s what they reported.
Unless any of the rioters identified as jihadists engaging in jihadi activities, it is not within the remit of a reporter to claim that jihad is what is happening.
Mrs Green, sooner or later the truth of what I say will come out. And then I suppose your unflinching trust in the lying mass media will shatter? No, it wont! You’ll continue with the same nonsense of carrying water for these deliberate liars as you do today. And we will witness from you the same blinkered sad comedy Janet continuously displays here. Tel me I’m wrong.
She lies? Colour us surprised, even green with envy at her ability to spin, like a dancer.
Here, my DEAR,
41% of black African, 36% of Bangladeshi and 35% of Indian people feel they have a say in decisions affecting Britain, compared to 19% of white people.
Whites Are The Majority of Victims of Racism from Blacks
72% of murder suspects in London are non-white.
Three Quarters of of Murder Suspects are Non-White
1. Black people are heavily overrepresented in all riots but one (Salford, 1.7% of arrests)
2. Over 50% arrested are black in all London riots (up to 82% black, 10% white in Lambeth)
3. All but two London areas (both central) with above average black population rioted
4. Poor and uneducated non-black areas did not riot or had small riots
5. Older black people are more likely to riot than whites of any age, incl. youths
6. Whites aged 10-17 are not overrepresented, blacks aged 10-17 are – heavily
7. Black Londoners are 2.87 times as unemployed as whites, but 9.65 times more likely to riot
2011 England Riots: New Police Statistics and Ethnicity
200 Foreign Nationals Arrested in London Every Day
Anti-White Racial Crime Statistics In Britain
Immigrants-five-times-more-likely-to-commit-crimes-than-australians
Figures show that white people are racism victims
Third of rapists and killers ‘are foreign’
1 in 5 native French have been victims of racist insults/attacks
‘Immigrant crimewave’ warning: Foreign nationals were accused of a QUARTER of all crimes in London
London is home to the UK’s ten most violent places to live
85% of hate crime victims in Europe are Christians
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1/5 prisoners in youth jails are Muslims
You remind me of Janet in your spin doctoring and bringing up
‘Fox’ [‘even they denied Pizzagate’] or BBC or whatever.
As if those media businesses are the arbiters of Truth, Justice and the formerly American Way.
We are on to you, slippery old gal.
‘Pizzagate is not real’–Green Alba…
How would she know? Jimmy Savile raped, for decades, and was friends with the Queen.
Well, isn’t that the way it’s supposed to work, malthuss? Is the Queen not the official head of the paedophile-protecting, world-dominating, ISIS-enabling, sodomy-spreading, atheist-commie, Trump-hating, Jewish-jihadi-n***er-lovin’ elites? It’s her coloured-project duty and at 91 she talks of little else. Thriving on evil, she is – look at her:
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/b99ff34b30a5592adceb8878cf692f2c6f1f4400/0_176_3500_2100/master/3500.jpg?w=1920&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=3260dd366ed095ee1220a8c31ac4707a
She’s probably involved in ‘Pizzagate’ too – with ‘Tupperware’ as her secret password.
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/10/06/royal-family-eating-habits_a_23234947/
You’d make a sane person lose the will to live.I guess that’s the strategy.
Is the Queen the official head of the
paedophile-protecting, [Jimmy Savile etc]
world-dominating, [with the USA and EU]
ISIS-enabling, [I dont know about that]
sodomy-spreading [you tell me].
Is that a post, Malthuss, or were you just exhaling?
Mrs Greenbaum: Have you now or at anytime engaged in Homosexuality (from homo meaning the same not Homo meaning Man – and that includes Women or Womb Men) or other advanced occult practices?
Mr Skorenzy
Have you now or at anytime engaged in intimate acts with:
(a) a Hobbit
(b) a Borrower
(c) an Oompa Loompa
(d) a melon?
And ‘woman’ has nothing to do with ‘womb men’ – I do wish you’d stop inventing things.
It means ‘wife-men’ and has morphed from ‘w?fmann’ to ‘w?mmann’ to ‘wumman’, and finally, to ‘woman’.
Special characters didn’t paste properly. You can check here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman#Etymology
Shouldn’t it be woe-man? Many a poor fellow has discovered this enduring truth too late.
“Shouldn’t it be woe-man? Many a poor fellow has discovered this enduring truth too late.”
I wouldn’t know, Tate. I don’t know your wife (and haven’t heard her side of the story!). If you wanted someone who would just do as they’re told, you should maybe have got a pooch instead.
I’m going by hearsay. And my wife doesn’t do everything she’s told, she only does half of it. And I do the same with her. It seems to work pretty well.
Who commands the trolls of the five eyes? Russian trolls are easy to spot but trolls of the eyes are a different pack of wolf.
Their Leader is a Five Skull Master – or one who keeps the skulls of the first five men he killed on display. That it no wise means he hasn’t killed more than five. Let’s just to be clear on that.
There is a tape of the two hour Trump-Putin meetng!
In view of these circumstances, I am most struck by the fact that Hillary Clinton began her election campaign at Roosevelt Park in New York, standing on the pedestal of the Roosevelt monument, as it was Franklin Delano Roosevelt who was the author of the Yalta agreements, and Hillary wrote on her election banners “No to Yalta 2.0!”
Since then, Roosevelt’s spirit, awakened by her dancing on his bones, was hovering over her election campaign and finally incarnated in Trump, whom he brought to Helsinki and seated at the negotiating table with Putin and they spoke to each other as Roosevelt and Stalin, that is, two allies, leading a deadly struggle against a common enemy!
DON JUAN AND THE STATUE OF THE COMMANDER
http://www.stairsainty.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/don-juan-and-the-statue-of-the-commander.jpg
Ham sandwiches do not collude. Monday’s indictment was very specific about how collusion happened.
U.S. Congressman Rohrbacher was part of a 2015 delegation that traveled to Moscow to meet with a Russian official, Alexander Torshin, a “godfather” in a Russian organized crime syndicate.
Torshin has been under FBI investigation for funneling money through the NRA to help Trump win the 2016 election. The notoriously pro-Russia Rohrabacher did not deny being the congressman referenced in Monday’s indictment.
Meeting with Russian officials, in Russia, to figure out how to funnel millions of dollars from Russia to Trump through the NRA… now THAT is collusion!
John C. Calhoun hoped that annexing Texas would force a war of conquest against Mexico to acquire territory for the South that would then secede from the US to form its own Slave empire. John C. Calhoun of South Carolina argued vociferously to the British that the institution of slavery was good for both the white man and the negro. Slave owner, Henry Clay (owner of Cassius Clay’s (aka Mohammed Ali) granddaddy opposed the annexation of Texas and war with Mexico in order to preserve the Union. Andrew Jackson wanted a war of conquest with Mexico as well as hard money in gold and silver. The British and Northern banks opposed slavery because banks can’t get a secure mortgage over negro bodies. The banks wanted paper money.
Chicago wants to do a pilot run with Universal Basic Income? That’ll work out well.
“It takes a village.” Hillary Clinton.
I think that the black inhabitants of Pritchard, Alabama may be the descendants of the last shipload of African slaves smuggled into Mobile, Alabama just before the Civil War. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bamjB9RA1_A
“Tragically, the American public is led to take this ploy seriously by a morally compromised news media, especially CNN and the The New York Times.“
Americans need to approach their government, specifically their role with it from another angle. From a better vantage point.
The public is lead to believe that their role in this bastardized democracy is to work in their best interest by electing those they assume will help them.
We are all in agreement that it takes a special kind of sociopath to run for a national election.
We are now coming into agreement that it takes a special kind of sociopath to believe in it.
To believe that politicians care about them.
It’s merely the route to money and power in this country.
The race begins with courting the power and wealth that will back the sociopath, and ends with the courting of the simpletons by the sociopath.
Why is the US dollar strong?
“Why is the US dollar strong?”
Malthuss,
Because it is the cleanest dirty shirt in the hamper….
I guess. When does the [ ] takes its place?
“When does the [ ] takes its place?”
Prolly some day when the US dollar is strong.
Green Alba,
Pizzagate is not real–I posted as much as I could, without ‘overkill’ [no pun intended, children are killed in these rituals] to show trafficking is all too real. Ask Laura Silsby. She was convicted.
I am not your ‘dear’. Not the first time you said it, not the second and not the third./ Really? 3x I used the term?
It is used in USA, like at the start of a note, even a business note.
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If a real woman in the USA says ‘hey babe‘ in a certain breathy tone of voice I hope you are not so foolish as to say I’m not your babe. It would not be ‘Malthusian’, and you would be missing out on an exponential growth experience.
Are you experienced.
?
??
Malthuss,
What Dog is implying is;
You tell Dog that Pizzagate is real, and Dog will tell you what a vagina looks like….
Ever the disingenuous, Malthuss.
Next time you’re stopped by a traffic cop for suspected infringement, try ‘my dear’ on him. Let me know how you get on.
Likewise if you’re after a bank loan, try ‘my dear’ on the bank manager and let me know what interest rate you get.
And I know all about trafficking, thanks. Modern slavery is alive and well in the UK too. Doesn’t mean everyone I don’t like is implicated.
But if the people you’re talking about are actually implicated, like I said, I’m happy to throw away the key.
I didn’t bring up the ‘Pizzagate’ topic, you did. I’m not even sure why.
I don’t like conspiracy theories, on the whole. I don’t like conspiracies either. I don’t like child abusers. What I do like is excellent, bias-free investigative journalism, so do feel free to do something useful.
What of Jimmy Savile? He was never arrested, was he?
What I do like is excellent, bias-free investigative journalism, so do feel free to do something useful.
–I just did. And if you like honest sleuthing, investigate Jimmy Savile.
Pizzagate is a relevant topic. The reason it’s relevant is because of the changed security environment we all now live under. As was discovered by Rep. Devin Nunes, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee back in March, everyone is being surveilled by the “organs of state security” as the Soviets used to call their intelligence apparatus. That means everyone with no exceptions. It means the President & every high government official.
Who knows how extensive the pedophile rings are? It’s a subject of speculation that can probably never be resolved, right? Well, not by We the People. Actually, there are in all likelihood individuals within the security state however who do have this information at hand, & will use it to ruthlessly control the behavior of those who stray too far afield in their opinions.
Someone posted that our entire political leadership are sociopaths. Sociopaths by definition usually but not always carry “baggage,” i.e., a compromised secret history. Let’s just hope that a few/some/enough(?) of the sociopaths are not in addition compromised. Because that’s the only way that the security state can be put back on a leash. Otherwise, it will continue to rule us. I don’t have high hopes.
“I don’t like conspiracies”. Fine. We’re with you. “I don’t like conspiracy theories”. Huh? I thought you didn’t like conspiracies? So why are you against the people who try to uncover them – a difficult task since they are by definition, secret?
You don’t like child abusers. So I assume you don’t like the conspiracies of child abusers. Or does that dislike end when they get to the Elite level? If not, why be against those who try to bring them down?
You seem like a child with her fingers in her ears yelling la, la, la, la. Things are desperate, yes. But this kind of response isn’t helpful.
The real problem isn’t pizzagate, although that’s bad enough. Anybody who denies it’s a real thing has not honestly delved into the culpatory material.
The greater problem is that large numbers among our leadership are being blackmailed by the security state.
Bubba once caught them bugging him while he was banging or buggering someone. He remonstrated with them, You guys don’t have to do this. I’m with you already.
But as they told Number 6, One likes to be sure. A little insurance can’t hurt. If you’re clean (dirty), you have nothing to worry about.
Who is Number 6?
The Prisoner in the Village. Reference to an old TV series titled The Prisoner.
Who is Number 1?
I don’t know. Is that a catch-phrase from the series? I never watched it.
You should remedy that. It’s a classic.
I am ‘disingenuous?’
You are Cleo, Queen of denial,
I see more ‘Acid Attacks’ in Londonistan-o-town.
That’s pretty nasty business, throwing a cup of sulfuric acid in a strangers face walking down the street. Is that a national characteristic of British life, acid attacks?
Is Great Britain still a civilized country?
At least in a shootout you have a fighting chance.
Here in the USA, in counties where more citizens carry a weapon than don’t, people are extraordinarily polite, and everybody is on their best behavior.—br heckler
Malthuss
As you have reposted brh’s post, in your usual sycophantic way, you will have seen my contemporaneous response.
In the meantime I’m very glad to live in a city where people are polite to one another just because they are polite and not because they live in a ‘know that I have a gun in my pocket’ Stepford dystopia.
When you don’t even recognise it as a dystopia, that’s when they’ve won.
You have my sympathy. But no longer my ear.
For two days both supporters and opponents of President Trump simply lost the gift of speech and could not say anything sensible about the Helsinki summit and the joint press conference of Putin and Trump.
And only Sen. Rand Paul defended President Trump, deserving his gratitude in front of the troops on Twitter.
But today is the night of revelations, when journalists, never getting any orders or receiving talking pointers contradicting each other, started to improvise in a good sense of the word, and news of epochal significance began to pop up one by one.
I am sure that in the morning the editorial boards will roll their sleeves up and start cleaning these improvisations.
After a llittle reflection I am of the opinion that most of the people who are in a desparate state of emotional incoherence have never been on the receiving end of a good jab, hook or overhand punch. They have never found themselves in the situation where their mouth has overloaded their ass.
These fools, not a word I use lightly, are incapable of seeing that the world is watching them as well as our President. Perhaps growing up on a red clay road I learned more about respect and honor than those from a more urban environment. My guess is that the main message broadcast to the world will be that a majority of US citizens are loud mouthed, disrespectful cowards that have an even deeper level of ignorance than the man they hate.
You all know my philosophy is across the track from most of you, but I remember when Mr. Merle Haggard sang “When you’re runnin down the country you’re walking on the fightin side of me”. That is accurate.
I am disgusted to the point of nausea.
Careful there Mr. Kunstler, it might not be long before they will come after you. We are clearly in a different environment now, where the media, institutions of all sorts are mostly aligned behind the same goals, namely keep it all from collapsing, and you are not falling into line. When things get desperate, there will be desperate measures. And don’t think for a moment that you will be taken down as a martyr. They will make sure that you are made out to be a “pedo”, drug smuggler or something of that effect.
Meanwhile Biden gropes, in public.
I dead icate this to dear Akmofo, whoever s/he may be,
his to
https://www.thelocal.se/20180511/un-concerned-about-level-of-racism-in-sweden
UN ‘concerned’ about level of racism in Sweden
The report pointed to “racist hate speech against Afro-Swedes, Jews, Muslims and Roma”, a problem that the committee said is particularly prevalent “during election campaigns, as well as in the media and on the internet.”
“The Committee is particularly concerned with reports of arson attacks against mosques and reception centres for asylum seekers,” the report added.
Fires at asylum facilities around Sweden have occurred on several occasions since the number of migrants arriving in the country peaked in 2015. At least 112 blazes occurred at asylum accommodation centres, or planned accommodation centres, across Sweden in the following year, according to national police statistics.
Mosques have also been the frequent targets of both arson attacks and racist vandalism. The report criticized Sweden for a “lack of sufficient funding to safeguard mosques against attacks”.
“The Committee is also concerned at the continued reports of racist hate crimes and hate speech against Muslim ethno-religious minority groups, especially Muslim women,” the report stated, adding that Muslims in Sweden face “difficulties […] in terms of access to employment and housing outside of minority populated areas, amounting to de facto segregation.”
The report also pointed to the “stereotypical representation of Muslims in the media, and by politicians.”
The recent spate of public rallies by neo-Nazi groups like the Nordic Resistance Movement(NRM) also caught the UN’s notice.
“The Committee is concerned at the presence of racist and extremist organizations in the State party, and their public demonstrations,” it stated. The report further chastised Sweden for not investigating crimes by neo-Nazi groups as terrorism.
The UN CERD report was based on input from the UN Association of Sweden. That group’s chairman, Aleksander Gabelic, said earlier this spring that the nation’s leaders “must be more rigorous in dealing with racist and Nazi organizations.”
“The increasing threat from racist and Nazi groups must be addressed,” Gabelic said in conjunction with the report’s release. “It’s not fair that people should be afraid to be in the streets and squares of our cities.”
The UN CERD report can be read here:
http://tbinternet.ohchr.org/Treaties/CERD/Shared%20Documents/SWE/INT_CERD_COC_SWE_31204_E.pdf
katie hopkins did a story on tv last night about a town in Bulgaria , turns out the mayor of the Islamic town had the names of the terrorist of an event in France before hand, and did nothing.
Texas could pass both Iran and Iraq next year in oil production as drilling costs fall and production explodes out of West Texas’ Permian Basin. By next year, Texas’ oil production is set to jump to 5.6 million barrels a day, up from 2.5 million a day in 2014. If Texas were a country, it would become the third-largest oil producer in the world — behind Saudi Arabia and Russia.
What was that about reaching peak oil in the USA in 1970? And now, 48 years later, we are set to peak again. And that’s just USA production. I’m not even going to mention world production. We will voluntarily stop using oil before we will run out through demand destruction, renewable energy replacement of oil.
Class 3 to class 8 commercial vehicles, which represent various sizes ranging from a walk-in delivery van to a school bus to a sleeper cab truck, are set to go electric. It just makes sense that a medium-duty urban delivery van that has a stable commercial route of between 50 to 100 miles per day should immediately go electric
House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) once again trod the path of Trump fealty, saying Tuesday that Russia interfered in our elections but that it didn’t materially affect the outcome.
Gee, somebody better tell the NRA to stop channeling millions of dollars to Russia for the Trump campaign. Apparently millions of dollars didn’t “materially affect the outcome.” Nope, not a single voter was influenced by what that illicit foreign money bought for Trump.
I got a bridge I’d like to sell. It’s in Brooklyn. It’s for sale to anybody who thinks millions of illicit foreign dollars for media buys didn’t change votes in the 2016 election.
Janet,
The race wasn’t even close. During her campaign Killary couldn’t even get a university auditorium filled, though she tried to bus school kids from all over the county. Trump consistently had stadiums filled to full capacity and more.
I would guess 50% of Killary’s “votes” were fraudulent, and consisted of dead voters illegal aliens and fake made up electronic votes. The fraud in the US electoral system is simply mind blowing.
Thanks. I saw the green screen and edits that made HC audience
look more sizeable.
Mr. Mueller has people (both American and Russia) in prison. The trial of Mr. Trump’s former campaign manager starts next week. Mr. Mueller is going to give immunity to five witnesses, which means they cannot take the fifth. Gonna be fireworks next week.
The nice Russian spy lady who worked with the NRA, I don’t know when her trial is. She’s in big trouble and will probably flip and that has to be concerning to Mr. Trump.
I do not hate Mr. Trump. He is an amateur who is in over his head. I pray for him. I hope he is sleeping well at night.
I hope he is sleeping well at night.
He is, as long as your ilk is not setting fires under his and his kids bedroom, as they did in April this year.
From the Rolling Stone:
“…Trump explained to Hannity why it is such a good idea to allow Russia to help investigate Russian interference, a concept as ludicrous as forming a joint cyber security task force with the nation who hacked the 2016 election. “I was fascinated by it,” Trump said of letting Russian intelligence investigate itself on behalf of America. “Robert Mueller’s people could go with them, but they probably won’t.”
Lie to the stupid, repeat.
How faulty is human perception?
The Story of The Kind Man
Two yokels heard that a visitor was coming to their village. “He’s called the kind man,” the first yokel said to the other.
The next day our two yokels wandered into the village. Instantly they spotted a visitor sitting on a park bench. “Do you think that is the kind man,” the first yokel wondered aloud. “Well go ask him,” said the second yokel.
“Excuse me sir,” the first yokel said as he approached the seated visitor, “are you the kind man?”
“If you don’t leave me alone I’m going jam your lousy, pathetic head straight up your ass! Now Fuck off!”
As the first yokel returned to his friend, the second yokel asked, “well did he say if he was the polite man?”
“No,” said the yokel, “he didn’t say.”
The real problem isn’t pizzagate,
well, if you are kidnapped, molested, raped, etc…thats a very real problem.
Since you appear to be smart, did you see the photos and text
of Jimmy Comets twitter, instagram, etc–what did you think?
Yeah, it’s kinda like if you’re without a job, your unemployment rate is 100%. No dispute there.
What did I think? I think I answered that in the previous:
“Anybody who denies it’s a real thing has not honestly delved into the culpatory material.”
I meant the images on twitter etc–‘ho tard’ ‘baby for sale’ baby coffins’–that vile stuff.
“culpatory material”
. It is the opposite of inculpatory evidence, which tends to prove guilt.
I think you’re thinking of ‘exculpatory.’
If you want to substitute ‘inculpatory’ for what I wrote, that’s fine.
What do you think of this? Naked young man attempting to escape from what I believe is Buckingham Palace, falls to certain serious injury and death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqj6KmhdoNM
I saw that when you posted it before. I don’t know what to think of it. Why has this not been the subject of intense media scrutiny (unless it’s faked?)
As I thought I made clear, I believe these high-level pedophile rings are real.
We certainly live in extraordinary times.
Get a grip, the pair of you.
https://variety.com/2015/tv/news/naked-man-buckingham-palace-video-royals-e-1201445397/
It’s no wonder your heads are full of BS.
“Why has this not been the subject of intense media scrutiny (unless it’s faked?)”
Probably because anyone with two brain cells has checked on google and doesn’t need to waste any more of their time because they’re not a total gullible moron.
“We certainly live in extraordinary times.”
You’re not kidding. I don’t think there have ever been so many gullible morons tapping away at their keyboards at the same time.
You need to enroll in a remedial course in reading comprehension. Hint: “(unless it’s faked?)”
I wasn’t that interested in pursuing its authenticity. It’s not something I would forward to anyone.
where there is smoke, there is fire.
Sometimes where there is smoke there is pants-on-fire.
My reading comprehension is fine, Tate. I noted how many sentences were devoted to the idea of it being fake and how many to the likelihood of it adding to the ‘extraordinary times’ we live in and the reality of high-level paedophile rings.
We’ve entered an age where anything can be faked, any image, video, sound, voice.
Because the ruling elite ultimately have to have the confidence of the people to continue to rule, what this means is that at some point they will clamp down hard on all information flow. It means the death of the internet as we know it. Curate what you can now of what you think is important. It won’t be around forever. I especially distrust images. I think most of us have just gotten used to the fakery & assume that as the default.
That Palace image doesn’t prove or disprove anything.
It wouldn’t surprise me though if it weren’t based on a real core of truth. Is that you Green Alga in the foreground? What language were you speaking so fluently?
“It wouldn’t surprise me though if it weren’t based on a real core of truth.”
It is. Buckingham Palace exists.
However you’re right, in that anyone who thinks the internet is a solution to fake news in the MSM is living in cloud cuckoo land. But not just because of ‘them at the top’ – because of ‘them’ everywhere.
One of the commentators on your link: Would the Queen have really agreed to the Palace being used for such a vulgar scam? I really don’t know – you tell me. It’s your country after all in the larger British sense. For example, are they letting the show mentioned film in the palace? If not, why would they have let this clip be filmed?
Oh, dear, Janos.
Did you think that back in pre-video days, photos were faked by getting everyone originally in them to line up again with an extra person added or someone physically left out?
You seem so well read and worldly, yet sometimes…
“I really don’t know – you tell me. ”
You really don’t know? Really?
https://people.com/royals/buckingham-palace-naked-man-escapes-in-hoax-viral-video/
It’s no wonder you are so easily taken in by fake news. Like a lamb to the slaughter.
What’s less funny, though, is the spreading of dangerous viral nonsense to – and then more particularly by – people like you who fall for it.
Here’s an actual comment from a site where the hoax was being discussed:
“Wake up people and do some research on your own. The Internet is not just for making lame jokes. This is not a hoax. This poor guy was trying to escape with his life. He timed it at the exact moment of the changing of the guard with the hope that someone would see him. Hardly anyone noticed because this is so out of context with how we view the grandness of the Palace. We can’t even comprehend that the Royals worship Lucifer and hold human sacrifices. He was a dead man either way.”
This illustrates how so much nonsense can appear on CFN too – and how some insane conspiracy theories start. I liked the next person’s answer, though, which was ‘you can tell when someone’s had a 2nd world education’. Quite. A little knowledge is an exceedingly dangerous thing.
BTW, one person has indicated that the side of the building edited on to the side of B. Palace is Moor Park Golf Club, if you’re interested.
I suppose you think the makers of Lord of the Rings had to go and find actual Orcs and Elves, which would have made the film so much more expensive, given how demanding they are about dressing rooms.
Give me strength…
Once I was pulling into my driveway. It was dusk. Suddenly, toward the west in the direction I was facing, a large meteor came racing across the sky. I had never seen anything like it. It was yuuuge, with a tail of black fiery smoke & sparks that stretched behind it for who knows how far. It was such an incredible sight that, as if to validate my experience, I quickly looked around to see if anyone else had seen it. Bill down the street was mowing his lawn. Another neighbor was outside doing something or other & he hadn’t noticed either. I scoured the headlines for several days afterwards. There was a small mention a couple days later on the local news that others had witnessed it, but that was it. Amazing things can happen right under our noses without our being aware.
Another example: I was a young man, working in a retail business. I was stocking shelves, not far from the cash registers. The owner was in front at the registers. Suddenly, there seemed to be a flurry of activity. The owner was rushing across the floor, yelling something. I had been totally oblivious to what had just taken place. Two negroes, high on LSD it was later determined, had come into the store, & robbed the owner at gunpoint (a concealed sawed-off shotgun hidden under an overcoat). While this was going on, I never noticed a thing.
So things can happen right under our noses without our being aware. Two trivial examples but telling.
As far as the high-level pedo rings, the people who are involved rely heavily on the public’s normalcy bias to aid in disguising their activities. On top of how people generally don’t pay attention to anything if they’re not at the right vantage point to observe. Personally, I don’t think these activities will ever be fully rooted out or uncovered because too many people at the top levels are involved all across the political spectrum so there are powerful forces at work to denounce & discredit any inquiries regardless of political affiliation. Pizzagate was simply the result of the Satanists getting sloppy & over-confident. Now they’ve made efforts to cover their tracks & become more discreet again. The attention it stirred has died down just as I predicted it would & only die-hard conspiracy factualists are still investigating the leads. I try to focus on other issues, knowing full well that those among the general public like GreenAlba & Elrond Hubbard will actively/passively assist in the cover-up by their denunciations & shaming tactics.
Alba: Don’t ever say I didn’t try to have a calm discussion with you – I just did. Only to be met with savage invective. Now your People(!) link that supposedly explained everything wouldn’t load, but it seemed as if it was going to be a different theory than your Variety(!) theory, some kind of technical hoax as opposed to a staged trailer for a new series. In other words, you don’t have a Theory. Your only “Theory” is that I’m wrong and bad stuff never happens in the Palace. And that England is fine, better than it ever was. Ditto Europe.
Moving on: Vidi well little sister, vidi well.
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2018/06/28/famous-non-white-homosexual-anti-abuse-activist-arrested-for-arranging-sex-with-toddlers/
See how it works? Abusers get into the anti-Abuse Movement. This punk was even nominated for a Nobel Prize. He didn’t get it, unlike Obama! With competition like this, decent people should stop accepting such an albatross of a prize.
Well said, Tate. This world is a Video Game of perspective and shadow. Not that it’s an illusion per se, but it’s full of illusion and misperception – and misinterpretation of those or accurate perceptions.
Tate and Janos
I think you’d both be determined to miss the point if someone stuck it through your ear and hung a map on it.
In the meantime, actual intelligent people are working hard on real crimes, including real paedophile rings.
The day before yesterday, everyone had attacked Trump for not trusting the intelligence community.
In our days not to trust the intelligence community that is trying to overthrow you is a crime, and if you do not consider Russia an enemy of the United States, then this is treason of the American Motherland.
And then Donald Trump, knowing all these circumstances, took part in a joint press conference with Putin in Helsinki and said he did not understand why Russia would interfere in the American elections. And when he returned to the US everyone attacked him so viciously that he went out and uttered a preliminarily prepared excuse that he wanted to say that he “does not understand why Russia would not interfere in the elections in the US”.
After that, everything went to the shitters!
Especially distinguished himself the director of the CIA in 2013-2017, John Brennan, who without thinking twice, accused Donald Trump of treason of the American Motherland.
The only person who with an open visor defended Trump was Senator from Kentucky Rand Paul. He called Trump’s distrust of politically motivated horseshit of the “intelligence community” healthy skepticism and rolled out a long list of malicious “mistakes” of this community, including lies to Congress, which is equated with lies under oath.
He gave several interviews on this topic, including to such rabid Clinton media as NPR and CNN, and personally I was most interested in his words that Trump’s chief offender, CIA director John Brennan, appeared in the 70s to be linked to the Communist Party of USA and in 1976 voted for Gus Hall.
The latter took a direct part in the expulsion from the party of the Secretary-General of the Communist Party of the United States, Earl Browder, whose son Felix Browder became president of the American Mathematical Society with the active patronage of Eleanor Roosevelt. And he became an academician for the specialty that John Nash studied and met several times with John Nash – the main specialist in this area, while the son of Felix Browder, Bill Browder, together with the Lebanese-Brazilian banker Edmond Safra founded the investment firm Hermitage Capital in Russia, which became the trump card in Helsinki’s in the Putin’s deck, which he handed over to Donald Trump for playing against special prosecutor Mueller.
And I had the impression that Rand Paul in one of the interviews hinted that through the Brennan and Gus Hall there is a line connecting Gorbachev and the money of the Communist Party of the USSR with Madeleine Albright and Hillary Clinton.
Paul: Trump has ‘healthy dose of skepticism’ for U.S. intelligence on Russian interference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5M4d5VfV1s
Rand Paul sides with Trump over US intel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqCVNgz9Yzs
Suppose you’re a high government official, so high that you can get away with murder. You know this because you have in the past gotten away with murder. (Strictly my opinion.)
And suppose you have a deeply corrupted soul with an overweening lust for power (& its close proxy, money). In short, you’re a psychopath, with no concern for the people whom you pretend to represent. As a cover for your predations, you & your husband set up a charitable foundation through which corrupt foreign governments can funnel their bribes for services rendered or promised.
Now suppose you’re put in the loop for handling & viewing highly sensitive classified state secrets. And so your problem becomes one of how do you convert those state secrets to dollar signs in such a way that you will never be charged with the crime of treason.
Here’s one way you can effectuate this exchange… Well, you should know by now who I’m talking about. What better way to put these classified U.S. government state secrets into the hands of a foreign power than to have them stored on her unsecured home server?
She gets plausible deniability by claiming that she was unsophisticated in technology matters (“You mean like cleaning with a cloth?”) & never dreamed that those files could be purloined by outsiders. Was this the real reason for the home server? And who was that foreign power? It wasn’t Russia, Louis Gohmert said as much when Peter Strzok was giving his testimony to Congress last week. I had never heard of this theory before but there’s an article by Joe Herring at the American Thinker website dated 7/18/18 that explores this possibility.
Here’s some info on the Russia angle that would seem to cast doubt on Russia being the beneficiary:
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/clinton-putin-226153
I agree, but it’s circumstantial. Remember, the DNC incursion, hack or whatever it was is a separate issue from the Clinton home server.
That’s because you haven’t been here for too long. I have written about that in January 30, 2016:
Otherwise, she would face more serious charges that she intentionally “leaked” to hackers of ISIL above-mentioned documents, which contained the names of the US secret agents in the Middle East, many of whom paid with their lives for it, after having undergone the most horrible torture by ISIL adherents.
http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-agonies-of-sensible-people/#comment-259736
It’s a complete BS story, and, which is worse, the author and the editor knows it better than I do.
In Russia Clintons were hated passionately throughout the 90s.
That was meant to be a reply to tucsonspur regarding an idiotic article in Politico.
Why is it idiotic?
I checked all the major news sources, and they All said essentially the same thing as Politico. Putin accused her of inciting the Russian protesters and interfering in the election. This is back in 2011. The antagonism continues to this day.
Remember, in 2016, she said Putin had no soul.
Just one more example:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/watch-the-election-clash-that-fueled-putins-ire-against-clinton/
So right, why would she help Russia? She wouldn’t, which was my point.
She certainly wouldn’t help Putin’s Russia, but she’d just love to help Black Project in Russia.
Trump and Montenegro
As I already wrote several times Trump and Putin in Helsinki, first of all discussed the measures to counter the provocations of Hillary Clinton, who is determined to start a nuclear war.
And if you take into account that at the level of prompt response, the responsibility for her actions automatically falls on Trump, then her plans prove to have not such a bad chance of success.
And in order to counter them, Trump went to extremes: in an interview with Tucker Carlson, he disclosed the apparently secret plan for provoking the Third World War. It used to be the Suwalki gap, and now it’s Montenegro.
Here in this clip he describes how the Third World War begins in Montenegro, or rather described, since now this video was removed.
But the short content of this video is retold by Trump’s worst enemy – the Washington Post. Thank you anyway! They do not go into details, but, apparently, Trump knew about this plan for a long time – that’s why at the NATO summit he kicked the president of Montenegro, and explained his actions only now.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-defending-tiny-nato-ally-montenegro-could-lead-to-world-war-iii/2018/07/18/f7a09276-8a80-11e8-8aea-86e88ae760d8_story.html?utm_term=.08aeb6759207
Trump shoves aside Montenegro PM at NATO summit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4otCS3FJxas
Formerly of the Warsaw Pact, Montenegro joined NATO last year or so. Putin was pissed. Trump was pissed on. End of story.
Should you give a damn who was pissed on and who was pissed off if because of a goddamned Montenegro you get a ICBM on your head?
May be they’re all raving lunatics in Montenegro? Have you checked?
Frankly, Finca, I should. I have serious doubts now about the Trump-Putin relationship.
Fear mongering with the Montenegro Maneuver. Serving Putin well. No ICBMs will fly because of Montenegro.
I’ve supported Trump all along, and don’t like the fact that he lost to Kim (so far) and is losing to Putin. His actions could eventually put a Democrat in the White House.
Fear mongering? No, Article 5.
Too many geopolitical midgets now in NATO, who could easily get bought to arrange a provocation on the Russian border.
Of course the growth of cynicism in this country is strongly correlated to the actions of certain politicians and certain political events. I think that we know why it’s always increasing.
The Vietnam war, Watergate, Clinton lies, the war in Iraq, etc., up to the present day’s mind boggling cluster fuck of skullduggery, fake news and fanatic factionalism.
This gem is pre Iraqi war, notable for its calumnious diatribe from deep down in the canyons of cynicism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJHvSp9AKYg
About 20 years ago.
So, I ask, where is the cynicism ceiling? When will the rampaging riots begin, trampling our tolerance?
Pucker Carlson….
One interesting theory is that the Watergate burglary was a Deep State frame up of Nixon to take him down for his detente with the Soviet Union. Rather than whack Nixon like the Deep State whacked JFK for JFK’s attempted rapprochement with Khrushchev they set up Nixon. I think that there may be some merit in this theory. The Watergate burglary was so sloppy and undertaken with no real benefit to Nixon who had the 1972 election against McGovern wrapped up anyway. Anybody who suggests a rapprochement with Russia is a marked man. The West has always had a hard on for Russia going back to the Vatican/ Byzantium schism. I rather like the Russians. They seem to be a serious, hard people with a wry, sardonic sense of humor, unlike the Chinese who don’t have a sense of humor at all. I should read up on Watergate.
Keep digging, Pucker, you’re on the right track.
Start by re-reading my posts on CFN regarding the “triumph of American Democracy” – Watergate.
Putin requested to question former Obama’s Ambassador to Moscow McFaul, or back to the question of Moral Equivalence
McFaul, who served under President Barack Obama and now teaches at Stanford University, wrote on Twitter that he hopes “the White House corrects the record and denounces in categorical terms this ridiculous request from Putin.” Otherwise, he said, it creates a “moral equivalency” between a legitimate U.S. “indictment of Russian intelligence officers and a crazy, completely fabricated story invented by Putin.”
https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/2018/07/18/putin-asked-trump-to-question-obama-s-ambassador-sanders-says
Michael McFaul left Washington as a representative of President Obama, but landed in Moscow as a representative of Hillary Clinton and could be an excellent witness to the fact that Hillary, no longer Secretary of State, took over Obama’s Administration foreign policy.
So I hung out at the pool today with a bunch of my neighbors. The talk turned to politics. My neighbors were all vocally anti-Trump. They were very vituperative. I wasn’t surprised because the Boston area is pretty liberal. Anyway, after hearing enough foolish talk, I commented that the country is diviided and civil war could break out. I was surprised when my liberal group totally agreed.
I have to think about this. I always thought that only right wingers or conservatives talked about revolution, not liberals; they always talked about an impeachment path.
What does this mean?
That the Liberals are coming and that they’re bringing Hell with them!
Liberals have served in the Armed Forces. Liberals have had extensive firearms training. Liberals are patriots.
Frankly, janet, I thought you got fired for your insane remarks regarding Native American non-citizens.
Speaking of workers compensation, does yours include a berth in a nuclear fallout shelter?
The 1st civil war ended 153 years ago and the nation is still split over that conflict. In civil war 2, the nation will split even more, no matter who wins. The foundation of our country will not survive further rending. America will be torn into several countries, and things will never be as good as they had been.
Coming together, despite our differences, is the best course of action. Why don’t we try to work out our problems rather than bombarding each other’s opposite side with threats and violence?
It means they think they will win and be able to put us in reeducation camps. Bill Ayers estimated some 25 million White Americans would not be capable of reform. What to do? Ayers knows – as do all Leftists.
They’re not going to stop, Bill. As I said, they are confident – and the alternative of letting us go is simply unbearable to them, and to you as well I imagine. Admit it: a Free White Republic of Proud White Men is not something you can countenance or abide. Countless Jews have fled the sinking ship of South Africa. Yet if they had to do it again, they would do it again. Destroying a White Nation is simply not something the Left will pass up.
We have to always keep this foremost in mind. Bill Ayers gave away the game when he made that admission. How can these people escape justice when the wheels are slowly grinding to bits the Unite the Right incarcerees with the active support & money of a jewess billionairess, the SPLC & others, howling to punish innocents such as James Fields for his attempts to escape a bloody-minded mob which caused his framing in the death of an obese protester named Heather Heyer who was standing nearby & died of cardiac arrest from most likely heat prostration.
at yr link on Joel, the hispanic? mulatto?
Davis was also a campaigner for Clinton and the Democrats. Somehow that keeps getting left out of his work history/bio.
I wonder why?
It is interesting. Peter Hitchens mentioned a couple of times fairly recently that he could see the same thing developing in Britain (if I remember correctly). This surprised me a little at the time.
The Left (which seems to include the big majority of media, politicians, academics and probably educated people in general) believe the justice of their cause is self-evident. Therefore they do not understand how anyone can think otherwise and even go as far as to challenge them. So they must be stupid, uneducated, bigoted or simply evil. Once you get to the stage of demonizing your opponents then violence is a real possibility – inflicted by them.
The disastrous liberal interventions in other countries perhaps supports this, for example the rush to punish Assad for the (alleged and very unlikely) use of poison gas ‘against his own people’. It seems to be more acceptable if the killing is done at arm’s length, by drones and hi-tech weapons where you do not actually see your victims. Support for abortion is, I suppose another as is the impressive intolerance of many liberals of their opponents.
The way I look at history it has been a series of attempts by progressives to impose Utopia over heaps of corpses, driven by a ‘rational’ imperative to impose progress, no matter what others might think of it. The Spanish Civil War is one example I know a bit about. This was wholly the fault of the Left despite what the historians say. I was thinking only yesterday that there is a Spain-in-1934 feel about things (the year the Socialist government planned their uprising to seize power for the proletariat).
I can see them doing it if the Dream tells them to. Who knows what it will tell them?
See also:
Folie à deux
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_à_deux
I’ve supported Trump all along, and don’t like the fact that he lost to Kim (so far) and is losing to Putin. –tucsonspur
Trump is winning! He loves talking to strong men. I know what he does in these private meetings with dictators and tyrants: he sings them Kumbaya… and it works!
Trump met with Kim and voila: Kim agrees to denuclearization!
Trump met with Putin and voila: Putin is no longer targeting us!
You underestimate the stable genius, and the power of Kumbaya.
States Suing Trump Over Trump’s Tax Increases
Connecticut, Maryland, New Jersey, and New York are suing Trump for raising tax liability for millions of taxpayers. Trump is hurting people living in those states who pay high state and local tax rates. Trump’s tax hike does not allow them to deduct as much money off their federal taxes so they will have to pay more, thanks to Trump. They may consider living elsewhere to avoid Trump’s tax burden.
Trump says he told Putin “we can’t have meddling” … so what’s all the fuss about. Trump trusts Putin to stop the meddling. It’s all OK now.
We can trust KGB Putin, right, if Trump says we should? Trump knows Putin. And Trump really let Putin have it by telling him “we can’t have meddling” … How much more can Trump do? So all the leftists should calm down and put their faith in Putin to not invade more countries or assassinate more journalists or conduct more massive disinformation campaigns targeting American voters. Reagan, W, and Trump all got along with Putin so Putin must be a good guy who won’t try to play us. /s
Putin is now demanding Trump to hand over Americans, including currently serving USA officials, to Putin for interrogation. The White House refuses to disavow Putin, refuses to stand up to Putin, refuses to tell Putin to go jump in the lake. This is a whole ‘nother level of betrayal of the United States by Trump. Maybe having a President who is compromised and subordinate to a hostile foreign power is not a good idea.
Trump may be Pissing-in-the-Punch Bowl?
He just fucked up royally. Maybe so, but into Punch already warm and ruined.
The insanity of vanity:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/brazilian-plastic-surgeon-apos-dr-091432249.html
Dr. Bumbum did the ass
And made her die.
Now he’s hit the gas
And on the fly.
He took the knife
to her derriere.
Now he’s on the run
And feeling queer.
He injected her butt
With hopeful delight.
Now she’s in the morgue
With a butt really tight.
She got done. She thought that only her bum was going to be, but things got out of hand.
Yeah, she wanted the figure but she got the rigor.
“Yeah, she wanted the figure but she got the rigor.”
Tucson,
Got the rigor with buns of steel…go figure….
No ICBMs will fly because of Montenegro == Tucsonspur
If Dusko Markovic, Prime Minister of Montenegro, somehow succeeds in including Montenegro in NATO, then if he loses the elections and the people of Montenegro try to leave NATO, this will be regarded as external aggression and an occasion for activating the 5th article of NATO charter.
What in retrospect allows us to understand by analogy how the First World War began and why the anti-Orthodox “Black Hand” suddenly decided to provoke a chain of events, as a result of which Nicholas II decided to make Orthodox solidarity the principle of international politics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hand_(Serbia)
Isn’t Montenegro already a member of NATO, or maybe it’s not yet fully integrated into the organization somehow?
Are you sure any uprising will be regarded as external aggression? As you most likely know, Article 5 has been invoked only once, to defend the US.
I don’t know about the country’s ethnic makeup and the allegiances of its people. Do most lean towards Russia? No association?
Yes, the long reach of History.
I’m off to the Arms of Morpheus.
Did I call it right last week when I said the whole point of Humpfy Drumpfy’s meetup with Vladdy was to get a chance to suck him off?
Well, that’s exacly what he did. On worldwide TV no less.
Uncle Sam is ROFLing in his grave.
Dark skinned North Africans and Blacks caught on video looting as France wins the world soccer championship:
— https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=Cgc6J_1531683196
These are all muzzies, and my proposal would be to use muzzie law and cut their fscking limbs off.
Of-course, none of this will ever be reported or discussed by the lying FAKE NEWS Vatican/CIA propaganda outlets, and Mrs Green will continue to be in denial. After all, if something is not reported by the lying BBC and the lying Guardian then it doesn’t exist — it’s just a figment of akmofo’s overactive imagination.
And millions of Muslims were not “looting” … you have no point, only prejudice.
akmofo
It’s well documented that the poorest are the most likely to commit most kinds of crime (except for ‘white collar crime’, by definition – white collar criminals are of course the least likely to go to jail, though).
Currently, most of the poorest tend to be non-white, for multiple reasons. As Janet points out, most Muslims and most black people do not commit crimes.
Likewise, as I have pointed out before, we had serious crime and gangs in this country at least, before we had mass immigration. Look up the Kray twins (London). Look up crime and gangs in 50s and 60s Glasgow. Look up ‘mods and rockers’. Read Graham Greene’s ‘Brighton Rock’, even…
Here’s an example of the BBC providing full racial (but also educational and social) profiling of the rioters from 2011. Sorry this doesn’t fit with your assumptions about the BBC.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15426720
“my proposal would be to use muzzie law and cut their fscking limbs off.”
I think we can do better than that, even if you can’t.
And you haven’t provided any analysis of the way minorities are treated in France, which has historically been to shove a whole lot of them out in the banlieues and forget them.
Many of the best educated non-whites from France have come to work in the UK precisely because of the levels of prejudice which have always permeated French society. When I last worked there, in 2008, a white colleague volunteered this to me, in relation to a promoted Moroccan colleague. She mentioned how rare it was because French people are more racist than in the UK.
That has an effect in the mostly ignored banlieues.
No doubt the French as a whole are racists, as are all the European nations without exception, including the racist Europeans in the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, etc. They proved this over and over again through their sordid history.
But that is irrelevant! It doesn’t excuse the behavior we see here, nor does it excuse the religo-cultural behavior of Jihadists towards others.
As for the lying BBC propaganda BS, as I said many times before, these Vatican/CIA propaganda agents don’t exist in my universe. They are dead and gone.
Oh, but the Talmudists are not racist, LOL.
Your spurious religion is based on race, if you hadn’t noticed. The disconnect is appalling. smh.
Fsck off! There are more “races” represented in my country and religion than in any place on this planet. You’ll see more multi-racial multi-national multi-ethnic diversity here than in any of your pasty white US or European ghettos. You can shove your racist and “Talmudist” nazi BS where the sun don’t shine.
“You can shove your racist and “Talmudist” nazi BS where the sun don’t shine.”
Mofo,
Quit being mealy-mouthed…tell him what you REALLY think….
BeeBeeCee…BBC or Heeb BC.
In his book, the “Autobiography of Frederick Douglas”, Frederick Douglas says that the slaves of plantations would get into very violent brawls with the slaves of other neighboring competing plantations that were perceived as their Master’s rival or “Enemy”. The slaves didn’t know who their real “Enemy” was.
who was their real enemy?
You seem to think you know that better than they did.
Are you smarter than they were?
It was the equivalent of modern “turf” wars. Just the Crips & Bloods ‘representin’.
Mr. Trump, master of the double negative, needs to learn a lesson from Mr. Reagan, who famously said directly to the head of the Soviet Union: “Mr. President, don’t not tear down this wall!”
Meanwhile, Trump has expressed four positions in five days. Flip. Flop.
Now Trump says he is “looking forward” to meeting again with Russian President Vladimir Putin to “begin implementing” issues they discussed during their summit earlier this week. Of course, Congress does not know what that means. The US military does not know what that means. We don’t know what that means…. except that Trump being a Putin puppet, as Hillary correctly said in 2016, is not good for America.
I suspect Congress is going to begin to exercise some oversight of Trump by increasing sanctions on Putin, providing protection to Mueller, questioning Trump’s Supreme Court nominations, and insisting on Congress’ constitutional role in foreign policy… by taking away some of the executive’s power.
Ultimately it is we, the people, who will decide. A blue wave that takes over both the House and the Senate will severely curtail (not impeach, mind you, but curtail) Trump’s ability to continue harming America by “implementing” Putin’s agenda to destroy NATO and the EU.
Without NATO and Article 5, Europe will be open to Russian aggression. Poland or Norway or Montenegro could then be the next Crimea. And who would, or would not, stop Putin from taking over Crimea? Georgia and the Caucasus? Moldova? Scandinavian countries?
A message from Liv Heide, founder of WhiteDate.net:
Why White Men Fall for Asian Women
The hidden message for white women.
In places as different as multicultural Paris and rural Germany, I have met white men who have dated and even married Asian or Indian women. Why would tall, high-IQ, good-looking European men who have plenty of options prefer black haired, dark-brown eyed, exotic woman to native Nordics?
It seems that all these men started dating European women but eventually ended up with an Asian or Indian women because they were more easy going and less challenging. They also were better-groomed, were modest and adorable, and all of them could cook.
Unlike many of today’s white women, most Asian and Indian women accept hierarchy in relationships, and rarely shout at a man even when they are angry. Their typically small physiques also may give them a certain cuteness.
In this anti-white-male world—in which it seems white women are almost deliberately trained to be a white man’s enemy—men yearn for femininity. A soft and feminine woman makes a man feel stronger and more protective. He feels more aligned with his natural mission to act as a provider and leader. Also, a man whose self-confidence has been damaged by anti-white education and media thrives on appreciation.
Many Asian and Indian women appreciate the tall stature and light colors of European men, and may hope these traits will be passed onto their children. However, European traits are recessive; in mixed children, the typically European phenotype is lost, often forever.
Finding a suitable partner for procreation should be a well-considered process.
Maybe it is time we start to think like Jewish mothers who always try to find the most intelligent, beautiful, and traditional Jewish bride for their sons. This is the thinking that helped the Jewish group and culture survive, and it will help us survive.
Western education and media spreading feminism have manipulated European women into believing that European men owe them chivalry, fidelity, financial security, and hot sex. At the same time, women believe they can dress and behave like tramps, collect as many sex partners as they like, and proudly state that they cannot and will never cook, clean house or—God forbid—iron a shirt. This is war against our men and against our people, and it is being fought through the minds of us women.
For white men to date feminine, high-IQ women outside their race is like taking the emergency exit. Why marry a white nag who dresses and behaves like a man at best, or a slut at worst, if they can have a decent women who is sweet, delicate, supportive, caring, and loyal?
Fortunately, the traditional white wife still exists. She seduces with her natural charm and feminine personality. She has long hair, wears pretty but modest dresses, and brings home-made salads or cakes to parties. She is grabbed from the dating market at the speed of light and already lives happily ever after with her handsome husband, adoring her many children. Alas, she is part of an endangered species.
If we see Asian and Indian women outcompeting us white women and thus threatening the survival of our ethnicity and folk soul, we need to improve. We must once again embrace a more feminine way of being, moving, and talking, we must brush up on our traditional skills, and last but not least we must learn when to shut up! Don’t be like the white drama queens on TV and in movies. I had to learn that lesson the hard way, and I urge other women to be smarter and to study other women’s mistakes.
Your man is not a garbage can for your moods and vanities. Maintaining good countenance is an essential skill for fostering all human relationships. We must encourage our men to become the best versions of themselves, and we must welcome with gratitude everything they do for us.
To see white men as they are, and not from an anti-white-male perspective, I invite white women to look at history. Despite the massive destruction of our men’s gene pool during the horrible brothers’ wars of the 20th century, and despite the suffocation by globalist modernity of their creative potential, their achievements in science, architecture, and art show what white men—and only white men—can do. The richness and beauty of our European heritage alone should make us proud of them, and our sincere admiration and support will make them surpass themselves in the future.
We Western women need to understand that the true mission of our lives is not making profits for a company but making our men strong and successful, and taking care of a home and family. Men are creators of societies; women are creators of life. The one is not more important than the other; both are crucial for the preservation of our ethnic groups and our European cultures.
If they are free from self-doubt, white men will always create high-prosperity, high-culture, beauty-worshipping civilizations. But their creative powers are inseparable from their genetics, so it is our duty as white women—our duty to our ancestors and to our European legacy—to make sure our men want to date, marry, and make families with us!
A couple of summers ago I had a small mystical experience when two beautiful Mormon Missionaries in dresses got on the bus. The contrast between them and the sordid females I had grown used to was just overwhelming. I felt a cool breeze cooling my fervid brow coming from them. Not the heat of lust, but the rise of the Moon of Beauty.
Liv is giving the message of Life to our Women. But alas they are too far gone for the most part. Old Cherokee saying, A people aren’t finished until their women’s hearts are on the ground. By that standard, we’re toast.
The rise of the moon of beauty. Ha, seems to me you wanted to spunk some starlight. But what would you think of all the hair down there. Would it be a vision fair?
Church leadership has said that women do not have the same mandate as men to become missionaries, but that they are welcome.
Thought so but had to check. They changed the rules so there will be more female missionaries but pretty much the Mormon mission has been an all male thing up till now. The rules were changed a couple of summers ago. Age requirements had locked women out until after they were married.
So ‘small’ mystical experience more likely describes the ‘swelling’ of mis-perception where eyes were forced to perceive beauty where it may or may not have been actually seen by true sight. A vision ‘engorged’ by bias which left a ‘hard’ impression making leaving the bus a stiff and awkward, rather than a mystical, experience.
An alternate explanation is simply taking inspiration where it can be found. There never was a bus or any young women. The comment was made for troll filler because somebody found the rules were changed a couple of summers ago. Whatever works.
A cynic: One who knows the price of everything but the value of nothing. There was a bus. There were two beautiful young Mormon women. And I did feel a cool breeze of ecstasy – the Holy Spirit blowing where it listeth.
Janos,
Forgive the Dog. He has had many encounters with missionaries, often cruelly ended with a jet of water from a garden hose and a rolled up newspaper….
“And I did feel a cool breeze of ecstasy – the Holy Spirit blowing where it listeth.”
Was it a cool breeze of ecstasy like this?
https://www.biography.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_700/MTE5NDg0MDYzNzIzNjUyNjIz/marilynrgb-sam-shaw-bw047_rbiojpg.webp
That would have been really cool. Especially when it was a double vision.
It’s true, Janos, Mormon women make more of an effort to look like women. Thanks for the complement, I’m glad femininity doesn’t repel you. As a daughter of the Mormon migration to Utah, let me just say that my DNA doesn’t allow me to wear pants to church, or to wear sandals without the required pedicure/toe-nail polish.
I’m heading to Paris at the end of month for some quality time at the Louvre. In general, men and women in Paris look a whole lot better than the average Silicon Valley resident. (Some men–not my beloved husband–wear socks, sandals, and shorts to the Presbyterian church in summer.) France will be a rest for my eyes, and not just at the Louvre.
Jen
I’m envious. It’s been too long since I ate ‘sous la coupole’ at my favourite restaurant.
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-france-paris-bastille-district-brasserie-bofinger-136206398.html
Or queued for the best ice-cream in the world at Berthillon on the Ile St Louis.
Sorry, this is a bit too foody and not very high-brow 🙂
Socks and sandals…aaarrrgghhhh…
I’m staying at a hotel on Ile St. Louis!
Have a ‘triple’ from Berthillon for me – poire/caramel au beurre salé and vanille 🙂
“it will help us survive” –Tate
And why is survival of the white race a good thing when it has wreaked havoc on populations around the globe? Imperialism, massive organized slave trade, world wars, nuclear weapons, etc.
“white men will always create high-prosperity, high-culture, beauty-worshipping civilizations” –Tate
As Gandhi said when asked what he thought of western civilization: “I think it would be a very good idea.”
The values of liberty, tolerance and rational inquiry are not the birthright of a single culture. In fact, the very notion of something called ‘western culture’ is a modern invention.
Christian Europe took many of their ideas from the pagan societies that preceded them. The classical inheritance Europe claims was shared with Muslim learning. When Europe was in the Dark Ages the classical Greek works were preserved by Muslim scholars.
Imagining western culture as the expression of an essence – a something – which has been passed from hand to hand on its historic journey just ain’t true. Imagining it as a product of whites ain’t true either. To be blunt: if western culture were real, we wouldn’t spend so much time talking it up.
In any event, the whole idea of “western civilization” was debunked by the white-on-white violence, the blood-soaked fields, the gas-poisoned trenches, of two “world” wars in which millions of innocents were massacred.
Susan Sontag said it best:
“If America is the culmination of Western white civilization, as everyone from the Left to the Right declares, then there must be something terribly wrong with Western white civilization. This is a painful truth; few of us want to go that far. …
The truth is that Mozart, Pascal, Boolean algebra, Shakespeare, parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation of women, Kant, Marx, Balanchine ballets, et al., don’t redeem what this particular civilization has wrought upon the world.
The white race is the cancer of human history; it is the white race and it alone—its ideologies and inventions—which eradicates autonomous civilizations wherever it spreads, which has upset the ecological balance of the planet, which now threatens the very existence of life itself.”
So which is it, janet? On the one hand, you list all the accomplishments of western civilization, then you imply it doesn’t even exist or that it can exist independently of white people, and then you end by conflating it (accurately) with the white race & comparing it to a cancer. You seem to be confused.
I did nt read all of yr post.
Its in the testosterone, of women, asians have the least and
afro women the most.
that should be obvious to any race or bio realist.
I support ICE. And if things keep going South and Illegals moving North, they’re going to have to cool these wetbacks with heaters as Riff in West Side Story said.
“And if things keep going South and Illegals moving North…” –janos
This is not what is happening. There are more moving south than north. There is an emigration happening, not an immigration.
Since 2008, more Mexicans have been leaving the Unites States than arriving. But the myth that undocumented Mexican migration is out of hand still lingers today.
Immigrants are not taking jobs away from US citizens. Citizens were actually losing jobs because of the broader restructuring of the economy, sending factories overseas, implementation of robotics, etc.
Immigrants do not abuse welfare. Although unauthorized migrants paid for social services such as Social Security and taxes, few (1 to 3 percent) filed for benefits or tax refunds even when money was due to them because of fear of apprehension.
Migrants’ unauthorized border crossings also led many Americans to associate Mexican migrants with criminality. However, undocumented migration was, in fact, only a misdemeanor. If anything, undocumented migrants were often the victims of crime. Employers refused to pay them and people mugged them regularly knowing that because of their unauthorized status migrants would not denounce these actions.
But the biggest myth is that Mexican migration is out of control. In fact, according to the Pew Research Center, since the Great Recession of 2008 Mexican net migration is negative, with more Mexicans leaving the United States than arriving.
You are diverting attention from the immigrants from Central America. You see, Janet, these people travel from Central America through Mexico and then cross the border into the US.
Just for fun, I memorized recently the countries of Central America. They are, roughly in order starting at Mexico’s southern border: Guatemala. Belize. Honduras, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Panama, and
Nicaragua.
Mexico is part of North America, not Central America.
https://www.amren.com/commentary/2018/07/croatia-is-the-real-world-cup-winner/
Why? Because they still have a viable Nation, unlike “France”. Article by Paul Kersey, a real person and not just a mythical vigilante.
two beautiful Mormon Missionaries
They are fools, risking their lives for BY and Pastor Joe Smith.
They should be at home.
The Elite know they are destroying the West, to whom they feel no allegiance. Obviously it’s news to many of the Mandarins who serve them mindlessly. So what is Blok’s intention here? Is it to save the Netherlands? Or a change in Global Strategy since Eastern Europe won’t budge? Is he sorry? Bet he isn’t. Probably bitter that they’re not going to be able to do to Eastern Europe what they did to their own People. Hope I’m wrong of course and that he is a real patriot. He apologized saying that these truths weren’t meant for the masses. This shows a healthy realism and contempt for Democracy.
Or is mostly all “False Consciousness”? Everyone knowing that the whole thing is nonsense but nobody caring enough to say so, and thus put their career in jeopardy? And everyone eager to destroy any competitor who does say anything, even the least thing? JS
From RT
Peaceful multicultural societies don’t exist and the EU won’t be able to force “equal” migrant distribution on Eastern Europe, where colored people are beaten to a pulp, the Dutch FM said according to a leaked video.
The explosive comments were delivered by Dutch Foreign Minister Stef Blok during a private meeting attended by some 80 people working for the Netherlands’ international organizations. Footage of Blok speaking to the audience via video link was leaked to the current affairs program Zembla on Wednesday, and the inflammatory remarks promptly spread through the Dutch media.
“I have asked my ministry this and I will pose the question here as well,” Blok can be heard saying in the video. “Give me an example of a multi-ethnic or a multi-cultural society, in which the original population still lives, and where there is a peaceful cohabitation. I don’t know one.”
The minister went further and said it might be all fun and games to go to a “Turkish bakery on Sunday” if you live in a well-off part of a city, but a “number of side effects” promptly become tangible if one lives in a migrant-packed neighborhood.
Yeah, that line probably stings.
It is of course the elite and upper-class who like their Turkish bakery Sunday trips who don’t live with these animals who are pushing this agenda.
(And women.)
“You very quickly reach the limits of what a society can take,” Blok stated.
One of the event goers gave Suriname as an example of a peaceful multicultural society. Bok, however, brushed off the claim, branding the former Dutch colony “a failed state.”
“And that is largely to do with the ethnic divisions,” Blok said.
Singapore was then given as an example of such a society. Blok agreed with that to a certain degree, stating, however, that the tiny South Asian country is actually very careful in its migration policies. “Singapore is indeed a mini-country, extremely selective in its migration,” Blok stated. “They do not allow poor migrants. Yes, eventually, possibly for cleaning.”
So the official word is that Russia did, in fact, interfere in the 2016 US elections. However, according to the DHS Chief they did not try to help Trump win. So, it is a fair question to ask: “what did they accomplish, or try to accomplish”? If they interfered it must have been with some objective to influence the outcome of the election. The only reasonable choices are: (1) to help Hillary win or (2) to help Trump win.
Well, let me tell you, I’ve had it with all this blabber about immigrants taking jobs Americans don’t want and working hard and contributing to society.
Working hard? Try finding a clean hotel room these days. I check in and lo and behold, there are hairs either in the sink, in the tub, on the furniture, or even all three. And I’m not talking Roach Motel.
It’s gotten to the point where I’ve had to call management on two occasions recently, being sick and tired of playing Mr. Clean.
And sometimes it’s pubic hair. WTF!
Some will say I was wrong, but I graciously did the cleanup after housekeeping management arrived with a or The maid, to save her from further embarrassment and subservience.
Guess I’m fortunate in that I haven’t been devoured by bedbugs. Yet.
None dare call it treason (except for Brenner), but Trump’s treasonous behavior was condemned by a unanimous vote of 98-0. Not one single senator would defend Trump and his betrayal of the United States.
^Brennan^
Ex-CIA chief Brennan: Trump’s comments nothing short of treasonous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI3S9MOCoBg
98-0. Not even Rand Paul would defend Trump, or should I say Rand Paul wouldn’t defend Trump. Would not? Not a single senator. I hope Trump gets the message that his love affair with Putin has limits.
From the “Autobiography of Frederick Douglas”, and Solomon Northrup’s “Twelve Years As a Slave”, it’s clear that they viewed the slaves as animals, as livestock to be managed. It is a fact that people are animals. Stirring up violent conflicts between slaves and the slaves of rival “Enemy” plantations was a livestock management technique. It still is.
Sports and war are livestock management techniques, as is consumerism.
Livestock will also respond the drugs, food, and fear. Fear is big.
Animal Farm
Frederick Douglas vs Douglas Frederick.
Do you you tube? You might enjoy X22 Report.
What’s it about? I use straws or tubes sometimes. But they are trying to ban them. I’ll have to get a metal straw, perhaps one that can double as a ninja weapon.
Dave has about 10 talks a week–politix and economy.
no strawmen.
The Russian “interference in the election” is a good example of a precious Straw Man argument: They’re attempting the say that if they can prove that the Russians hacked into the DNC server and grabbed Hillary’s pay-to-play Clinton Foundation emails and John Podesta’s pedophilia messages and then gave them to Wikileaks that this proves that the Russians rigged the election for Trump. Many Americans are so brain damaged on drugs, fast food, GMO, TV, and fluoride that they can’t see the difference.
Typo: Specious Straw Man argument
Woman attacked by killer “Africanized” bees. This was predicted decades ago and then I didn’t hear anything about it for twenty years. Now here tis. They covered her and tried to kill her but the firemen blasted them with a fire extinguisher and she survived.
They don’t look any different, they just act different, far more aggressive. One is reminded of the European Wild Cats again. The brain is different and/or the hormones. A subtle but important genetic difference.
In the recent National Geographic about race, they had a picture of a chimp baby and human baby with the caption that they were only 1.5% different genetically. In other words, a small genetic difference results in a huge difference at the level of outer expression. I don’t think that’s what they wanted to say since the whole issue was about how race isn’t real.
How cool is it that they are “Africanized” or lets say mulatto bees? Just like in human life, they attack in gangs intending to kill. Likewise, the Black Africans look like us more or less, but their behavior is so, so different.
This shit is so crazy. Do Japanese Beetles act like Japanese humans somehow? Do they bow? Act polite? Attack like kamikazes or a Divine Wind?
The Universe is not stranger than we imagine, but stranger than we can imagine.
The 1.5 percent difference is there. Make of it what you will.
NG is now just a rag.
PBS public service announcement — US intelligence and Homeland Security officials warn unsuspecting Americans:
Beware of the ever-increasing “persistent efforts” by Russians bent “to divide America” by their inferior, barbaric, and nefarious nature and authoritarian culture. And remember, they all are Kremlin trolls paid by Putin to make his dreams of world domination come true — by sowing dissent and discontent among you, happy and peaceful people, and by turning you into a Putin agent, or at least a Putin boot-licker. So, be vigilant, be a patriot, resist and report those Russkies.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/u-s-official-russia-using-social-media-to-divide-americans
THE ART OF A HEADLINE
During Interview Trump was asked whether he considers Putin to be responsible for Russian meddling in US elections, whatever this means.
And he answered that he holds Putin responsible for everything that happens in Russia the same way he as a president of the USA is responsible for everything that happens in the USA. Which is very different from the meaning of the headline if not the opposite.
Trump says he holds Putin responsible for Russian interference
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/18/trump-putin-russia-responsible-732004
Slaves on the plantation have kids. People in totalitarian societies have kids. Think about it.
I wonder why animals in those huge animal factory farms in which the animals live their whole lives force fed standing up in small cages in diseased, crowded, fecal conditions continue to have offspring?
I saw Trump’s tax returns, and you should too–
https://twitter.com/TimOBrien/status/1019209169973506048