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      Even if NBC, CBS, CNN, The New York Times, The WashPo, and the rest of the Big News Media mafia ignore the Twitter Files story, the revolution at Twitter is going to shake their windows and rattle their walls. There will be free debate in 2023 on this social media platform. News and ideas will be set loose across the landscape, and, for the first time in years, reality will have a chance to compete with the bad faith narratives of a regime at war against its own people.

     We’ll have to see how long this window remains open before the Intel Community tries to shut Twitter down, ramp up a campaign to defame it, or blow it up as a viable business. Or make a move to, shall we say, neutralize the person behind the revolution there. The more that free speech is actually permitted on Twitter, the more every other platform will look like a lame organ of propaganda, especially when it comes to issues that really matter such as the deadly consequences of the mRNA “vaccines,” the shady doings around recent US elections, the actual condition of the US economy, the perilous folly of “Joe Biden’s” war in Ukraine (and the family grifting operation that prompted it), and the evil machinations of the Intel Community itself.

     In about three weeks, the Party of Chaos will be swept out of power in the US House of Representatives. Their opponents will take control of all the House committee chairs, with subpoena power to compel the testimony of public figures who have managed to avoid answering questions for years. The Big News Media may not be able to avoid reporting on it, especially with Twitter loosened up, and their lying attempts to spin events are going to look pathetic when instantly contrasted with free analysis and informed debate in the public arena.

      You can’t overstate what an advantage the insidious takeover of social media gave to forces seeking to wreck the country, though the effects have barely been explored yet. The people remain bamboozled over the Covid-19 operation especially. The pandemic certainly wasn’t some random act by Mother Nature, not with US public health agencies supporting gain-of-function research on coronaviruses from Ukraine to North Carolina to Wuhan, China. And the subsequent damage caused by the government’s response to the outbreak was either an epic fiasco of inept officialdom, or something that smells like mass murder.

      Dr. Anthony Fauci’s little trick so far to avoid answering questions about these matters was simply to not use the term “gain-of-function” in his correspondence arranging grants for it — especially after President Barack Obama banned that type of research by its name in 2014. So when asked about gain-of-function, he could just lie with abandon. After that simple ruse is exposed, the patent and royalty benefits enjoyed by Dr. Fauci — who doubled his net worth after 2019 — will be dragged into the light of day.

     It’s doubtful that Merrick Garland’s uber-corrupt DOJ would follow-up on any referral for criminal prosecution issued by a House committee. But guess what? There are fifty states attorneys general who have standing to prosecute Dr. Fauci over injuries to their state’s citizens. It appears that Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, for one, has identified that legal avenue and this week asked Florida’s top court to convene a special grand jury to consider exactly that.

     The other players in Team Covid have plenty to answer for, too. Rochelle Walensky’s CDC has deliberately concealed, misled, obfuscated, or opted to not even collect information about injuries and deaths from the Covid “vaccines.” Her agency did nothing to update the inadequate, difficult-to-use VAERS reporting system, or even communicate the very bad news that managed to land on it. The CDC is still aggressively pushing vaccines on children, knowing full well that it damages young hearts, brains, immune systems, and probably the kids’ very DNA.

     Probably few would recognize the name Dr. Robert Califf in his second go-round as Commissioner of the FDA (served one year 2016-17 under Obama; confirmed again in Feb. 2022). Dr. Califf has been a tool of the pharma companies for decades. Earlier in his career as a professor at Duke University, he specialized in organizing drug trials. His operation there was supported by over $150-million in grants from pharma. Even despite Deep State control of social media prior to Elon Musk’s cleanup of Twitter, a lot was already known about the botched and faked drug trials that led to the FDA’s conditional emergency approval of Pfizer and Moderna’s mRNA Covid-19 products — along with the official suppression of existing anti-viral drugs that could have saved a million lives, which was done strictly to preserve the liability shields of the “vaccines.” A finding of fraud in all this would vitiate the Pharma companies’ protection against lawsuits, and there was fraud galore in the whole wicked business.

     Others have to be called to face the new music in Congress: self-styled “humanitarian” Bill Gates, whose fingerprints are all over the Covid-19 story, from the “pandemic war game” (Event 201) he sponsored, held in the fall of 2019, to his vested interests in pharma, to his connections with the shadowy operations of the World Economic Forum and its stated population-reduction initiative. Dr. Ralph Baric of the University of North Carolina, indisputably the preeminent expert on Coronavirus gain-of-function research, and knee-deep in the Covid-19 episode — who has magically been able to hide under a rock the past three years — could shed a lot of light in public testimony on what happened. And Peter Daszak, head of the CIA cut-out org, EcoHealth Alliance, which helped enable the move of gain-of-function research to the Wuhan lab, explicitly explained years ago — in a notorious recording from a symposium — how to create profit opportunities from a pandemic response.

     There are countless high officials of the deputy director and commissioner rank, unknown to the public, who could be called to testify about their agency’s contribution to the catastrophe that the Covid-19 response turned out to be. Almost all of them have been laying low since the whole thing started.

     Meantime, Mr. Musk has announced that Twitter is preparing the release of all its archives containing communication with federal agencies that sought to control and suppress truthful discussion of the pandemic 2020 to 2022. He added snarkily that his personal pronouns are “prosecute / Fauci” — in case there’s any misunderstanding about what he’s learned from the files.

     What’s liable to come out of this uncorking of evil spirits in 2023 is a grotesque spewage of info about official corruption and misconduct that will make the projectile vomiting from The Exorcist look like a mere Satanic loogie in comparison. You have to wonder how the nation will handle it, especially along with the extremely uncomfortable fact that “Joe Biden” still occupies the White House.


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776 Responses to “Truth And Consequences”

  1. Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 9:56 am #

    Splendid.

    I would add to Walensky’s malfeasances, that she was actually allowing evil old barren spinster hag child hating bith Randi Weingarten to dictate what she wanted “the science” to be when it came to schools.

    That old commie bitch wanted the little ones in smothering, sick face diapers, and her whim was granted.

    I’m talking to parents, and it seems that kids are getting sick with things like strep throat at an alarming rate, after all that locking down nonsense.

    • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 10:03 am #

      I agree, we have to have a good idea of what a long term average “control” virus season looks like before making these big warnings we keep hearing. We still do not know what a “typical” flu or Cold season is, let alone Covid.

      I think the same can be said of polio, measles, strep, staph, CDiff, etc., etc.

      Pure manipulation by the press!

      • niner December 16, 2022 at 12:47 pm #

        As you might guess the Germans keep better statistics than we do.

        We’ve pretty much passed beyond understanding through number (MEGO), but these pretty charts and graphs get the point across.

        httxx://expose-news.com/2022/12/16/cost-to-human-lives-due-to-covid-injection-program/

    • SW December 16, 2022 at 1:08 pm #

      And Randi Weingarten is now acting like it was not her decision at all to keep the schools closed or kids masked up — she was just doing what the CDC told her to do. Don’t blame her! How do these people get in charge? And stay in charge? I’ll never understand that.

      • Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 1:21 pm #

        It wasn’t her decision to make, but she in fact did make it, and we have receipts.

        People like Randi draw power from the governments that allowed public employee unions to legally pick employee’s pockets whether they wanted to join the union or not.

        • SW December 16, 2022 at 2:03 pm #

          And the teacher’s association that she heads is a big contributor to the Democratic party to the tune of $3 million.

  2. JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 9:58 am #

    “You have to wonder how the nation will handle it”

    IMHO,

    A large collective DUH!

    • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 10:11 am #

      I have every confidence that the all-purpose “Conspiracy Theory” label will be slapped on anything that comes from this and the American Sheeple will roll over and go right back to sleep, just like always. I’d like to be more optimistic – I surely would – but our track record so far has given me no reason to be that way. Maybe after a few more years of massive die-offs under more than suspicious circumstances, but even that’s a stretch. Never underestimate the power of mass media propaganda and people’s allegiance to established authority. The Exceptional Nation (TM) would NEVER do something so heinous to its own people.

      • spaingaroo December 16, 2022 at 10:22 am #

        at the same time you can smell the difference on comment sections, and of course twitter has changed a lot.
        There is a groundswell of change, but it’s still tiny.
        But growing, just like the ‘antivaxxers’
        Everyone starts off as a vaxxer because it’s just the wallpaper. Most people only break the conditioning when the disaster strikes them, or someone close to them.
        The trickle that was obvious jab injury is becoming a stream and looks like it may well become a raging flood soon enough.
        You would think the murder will do it but the sterilisation campaign will also enrage some people once they realise.

        • Woodchuck December 16, 2022 at 11:58 am #

          We can hope for a raging flood. I want the sort of flood that wipes away our “educational” and “healtcare systems completely. The sort of wipeout that leaves such destruction that even the foundations of the former edifices are swept away. It will have to be a flood bad enough to make rebuilding impossible. A flood so bad that the survivors all say to themselves, “let’s leave the flood plain entirely and rebuild on higher ground somewhere else”.

        • mrs_saj December 16, 2022 at 1:09 pm #

          I am still not optimistic. There are far, far too many people who are still so brain dead to the whole thing that I do share Disaffected’s point of view. The death rates will have to continue to increase and likely some idiot celebrity needs to keel over on live television to wake some of these people up.

          But what you say, Spaingaroo is also true. The message boards are showing some new awareness. I go to Yahoo to see what the normies are talking about. The recent article about the unvaccinated being likelier to get into car crashes received thousands of comments. They were universally “FOAD (fuck off and die for you acronym haters) if you think I am dumb enough to believe that.” This was very encouraging to see. But anytime someone dies that probably shouldn’t have, such as sports journalist Grant Wahl, the comments are a 50/50 food fight with half the people saying its the clot shot and half the people virtue signalling their condolences and accepting the public narrative whole cloth.

          Frankly, I can’t think of anything more virtuous than saying, “I am totally pissed off that this guy died. He shouldn’t have died. And there is a coverup going on to hide the fact this worthless medical treatment also has deadly side effects. I’m speaking up because I don’t want anyone else to die, even people I disagree with politically.”

          I just for the life of me can’t imagine a more virtuous sentiment than that. And yet the vaccinated just want us to shut up and take the clot shot.

          • Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 1:26 pm #

            That article was written by a man who gets paid by the Canadian government for his propaganda.

            Yes, it is gratifying that people who see what is going on are being allowed to know about each other more than before, and it is also good to see the number of bots pretending to take the other side has been reduced.

          • Night Owl December 16, 2022 at 3:32 pm #

            That article on driving was written because as the clot-shotted increasingly keel over, traffic accidents are going to go up.

            There are already dozens of videos on YouTube, Rumble, etc. of bus drivers and other vehicle operators going into the Pfizer death roll and crashing.

            They know exactly what they are doing.

          • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 10:52 am #

            great comment mrs_saj.
            you are right about the fifty-fifty split on many parts of normieland, what would once (recently) have been 98% vs 2% being shouted down and piled on
            I think it can only accelerate from here.
            But I have been wrong so many many times on these things that I know longer proclaim much at all.

          • UN OUT OF USA December 17, 2022 at 12:54 pm #

            Oh, because “it would have been totally worse if he hadn’t gotten the shot” don’t you know? LMFAO. Think of it this way, when people can’t see or won’t admit to the truth right in front of them, perhaps having them out of the future gene pool isn’t such a bad thing.

      • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 10:22 am #

        Dis

        The election last month changed everything with me. I no longer have faith in the common sense of the American electorate.

        Biden has just about run the country’s economy aground, as we soon will witness in 2023. Everything he has done, locally and globally has been a failure. Fox has done a fairly good job of exposing the idiocy of the Mob’s platform, but the other conservative outlets are too small.

        In spite of it all, the Red wave that was forecast and expected fizzled.

        This country is too dumb to recognize its own demise. So be it.

        • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 10:24 am #

          Congrats Jazzer! You’re waking up! Welcome to the party! Everyone comes around eventually.

          • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 11:08 am #

            Me woken up, Dis?

            Better review my posts for about three years. I have been a prophet of this doom for a long time. I was one of the first to utilize the term Deep State and was soundly attacked at the time. Also, I included the RINOs in the Deep State as the change that created the DS in the first place.

          • hmuller December 16, 2022 at 12:35 pm #

            JohnAz, weren’t you a big supporter of the Covid vax, maybe you still are? Or am I misremembering? At my age it happens.

          • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 2:48 pm #

            Don’t get your hackles up, Jazzer!

          • MaryQueen December 17, 2022 at 10:50 am #

            JAZ took the JAB. Looks like he went from understanding the Deep State to doing whatever they told him to.

          • Ricechex December 17, 2022 at 1:37 pm #

            JAZ was a big supporter of the vax and very fearful of Covid. He was always arguing about it with people on this board. He would go through all these alleged “scientific facts” about why you should take it, how it was safe, etc. etc. It went on for MONTHS, maybe a year.

          • Amman December 18, 2022 at 7:12 am #

            Yes, he did. Never argued with him. It sort of dawned on him one day there were some..er… risks.

        • Paddys Lament December 16, 2022 at 11:47 am #

          “Welcome to the fight. Maybe this time our side will win.” Dis and John are on the same team now. I can see them like Rick and Laslo in Casablanca heading off to Brazzaville.
          Seriously. Nobody can look at this train wreck and see anything but a Trail of Tears ahead. To paraphrase the late Gill Scott Heron, the revolution will not be twitterized.

          • hmuller December 16, 2022 at 12:49 pm #

            Lazlo took off in the plane with his wife Ilsa (Ingrid Bergman).

            It’s was Rick and Captain Renault who were considering a career change working for DeGaulle. Personally, running the bar in Casablanca looks better to me than swatting tse-tse flies in the Congo.

          • Paddys Lament December 16, 2022 at 1:12 pm #

            Herr Muller, I was just about to issue a factual correction and you beat me to it. Bravo.

          • ThorsHammer December 16, 2022 at 7:23 pm #

            Paddy and Mrs-Saj

            I’m “surprised” that your list of crimes didn’t include starting World War III. But that seems to be off topic for comments on this site. For the record:

            World War III

            Stage I—- The 20 year NATO front expansion War
            Stage II— The Sanctions War
            Stage III— The Propaganda War
            Stage IV— The Financial System War
            Stage V—- The Proxy War (“Our” Ukraine vs Russia)
            Stage Vi— The USA/UK Pipeline War against Germany
            Stage VII— The USA NATO mercenary War
            Stage VIII— The Bomb Russia War
            Stage IX— Global Nuclear War

            In case nobody noticed, we have just entered WWIII Stage V III with soldiers and missile crewmen from the USA, Britain, Poland, the Middle East and Romania involved.
            — Every stage ratcheted up by weapons and money from the USA
            — Any move toward cease fire or negotiation blocked by the USA/NATO.
            —Every stage of escalation intended to threaten the survival of Russia as a nation and a people. (As repeatedly stated by Western leaders.)

            Who will record the history of Stage IX? The cockroaches?

          • mrs_saj December 18, 2022 at 7:52 am #

            Thorshammer,

            Love your Stage Summary of WWIII, spot on.

            I was just listing what was top of mind, but yes, the US’s obvious and concerted agitation for war should have been mentioned.

            Thanks.

          • hmuller December 18, 2022 at 10:39 am #

            It really worries me that our ruling maniac warmongers are now sending Patriot missiles and the Americans to operate them to Ukraine.

            When Americans die the MSM will be screaming, “foul, foul, how dare you Russians kill our boys who simply entered a war zone to kill you!”

        • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 1:08 pm #

          No, he was put into office to fuck things up. He has succeeded. Or rather those behind him.

          • mrs_saj December 16, 2022 at 1:37 pm #

            This ^^^^^^^ is the material point. In decades past politicians might have good faith disagreements about give a man a fish (for the children) versus teach a man to fish.

            Now, I can come up with no other remotely plausible scenario besides Biden was chosen to sink our nation. There is no plausible explanation to not close our southern border. And even worse this administration advertises the benefits that can be obtained if you sneak in.

            The border is just one example, there’s domestic energy production, the EPA, the entire COVID mess, trans-sexualizing our military and our government, neutering law enforcement at every turn, everything is racist (including math), and if something is not racist then it is affecting climate change.

            These people, Biden and those pulling his strings, want our country to collapse. Full stop.

          • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 10:55 am #

            and the world mrs_saj, it’s no better here in euroland

      • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 10:22 am #

        That last sentence was supposed to have a (/Sarc) tag on it.

        • spaingaroo December 16, 2022 at 10:23 am #

          unnecessary I think, with this audience

          • Paddys Lament December 16, 2022 at 1:20 pm #

            That’s the understatement of the day!

      • PonyTail December 16, 2022 at 10:23 am #

        I agree, and I’ll further predict that the Republicans in Congress will “investigate” as long as it takes for them to be shown the wisdom of abandoning that course in favor of “unity,” “healing,” and “looking ahead.”

        • C.O.Jones December 16, 2022 at 10:40 am #

          I’m mortified that nobody in the US had the testicular fortitude to point out the tie to 9/11 and the scamdemic. The fact that the American sheeple shrugged and went back to staring at their phones after 9/11 directly enabled and encouraged the scam pandemic. Satanic murderers will not be held accountable by other Satanic murderers. We cannot rely on the guilty to investigate themselves. Bill Gates spent part of October in Belgium planning for a “fictional” pandemic that kills children. If we are to survive as a planet, when his plan comes to fruition as it did with Event 201, Gates must be put on the wall and publicly executed.

          • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 11:13 am #

            CO

            Right now, not 9/11, the Feds continue their power control games with the border.

            The border is destroying the economy of the U.S. and turning it into a crime factory.

            One only needs to look around to see this effect.

            To buy some Liberal votes,

          • SW December 16, 2022 at 1:13 pm #

            Thousands are wading across the border and there’ll be even more in a few days after Trump’s restriction expires. Not that it did any good after Biden took office and now, right before a cold front hits Texas and there’s no shelter for them, more and more are coming in. Marco Rubio said a few months ago, “this is not immigration — this is an invasion.”

          • Cactus Girl December 16, 2022 at 2:19 pm #

            @C.O.Jones: yeah, I was shocked when everyone just dropped their drawers, bent over, and said, “Please explore my rectum, Mr. Security Guard, with your large, gloved fingers. Use 2, if you can. I want you to be thorough. It makes me feel ooooh so safe!”

            I don’t think there were smartphones in 2001.

            A firing squad is much to merciful. I want them all drawn and quartered. Publicly. After being dragged behind electric cars on a rough road.

          • Lyndy33 December 16, 2022 at 2:21 pm #

            Studies agree with their financier or they wouldn’t be published. So ‘studies’ are just another tool in the propaganda toolbox.

          • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 2:55 pm #

            @ CactusGirl,

            I had to escort a USAF prisoner out to the brig at Miramar NAS, CA a few years before I retired and actually had to watch one of those “bend over and say ahh” prisoner intake inspections. I was ordered to observe as a neutral party and confirm that the guard was not abusing the prisoner or planting evidence, since technically he was my prisoner until I signed him over to them. Quite the humiliating experience for all involved.

          • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 11:00 am #

            small point. Nobody was staring at their phones after 2001. The iphone came out in 2007 as far as I remember.
            Yes, just fifteen years ago.
            (I better go check before posting)
            (About 1,300,000,000 results (0.54 seconds)
            iPhone/Introduced
            June 29, 2007)
            Just try to imagine the world without smartphones.
            Impossible but for homesteaders, and even they are stocking up on Amazon.
            I was resisting changing mine up but in the end, I was no longer able to use online banking unless I installed the bank’s app to ‘sign’ my transactions.
            They got us by the balls, as George Carlin would say.

        • UN OUT OF USA December 17, 2022 at 12:58 pm #

          PT,
          Totally agree with you. With both McConnell and McCarthy running the Repubs nothing will change. No one will be indicted (at least none of the “biggies”). They’re uni-party and will simply keep the grift going.

      • Jimpa December 16, 2022 at 11:30 am #

        Let’s hope Musk’s free speech platform holds, then at least there will be pushback in a mass media sphere that hasn’t existed before. 2023 is going to be an interesting year a la the Chinese curse.

      • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 1:06 pm #

        What is left of a person after a day of “work”? The knowledge that they will have to do the same thing tomorrow. Research? In the few short hours they have, they need to relax and forget.

        One day in the life of Ivan Denisovitch. The slave is only noble when he rebels.

        • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 11:22 am #

          and yet some people are different.
          I know I worked on my Art career in all the hours after work, or went to my other job.
          (all for fuckin’ nothing it seems from this point in peasantville)
          I have really never relaxed maybe ever.
          And I never forget.

          I’ve got a feeling you are something similar Jarek, although I find it hard to imagine who you are exactly.
          I know you thought I was someone else than I am when you misunderstood my comment about depape months ago
          no harm no foul, I am a seldom commenter here.

          comment was to say something about the Russian novels. They are full on in my limited (as yet) experience.
          I have three on my shelves, but am only halfway through the first one I picked up.
          Not because of the book, but rather my life. And my terrible habit of reading several books concurrently.
          Right now I am probably halfway through seventeen books, if you count all the ebooks I have open.
          But I can still remember what it felt like starting ‘The Idiot’ and realising how timeless writing works.
          got about a third of the way in in that first couple of sessions.
          Just went and grabbed it, about 45% more like it, judging by the bookmark
          But that was a few months back, so would probably want to start it again. Can reread faster than I read.
          Life is too short for the internet.
          I can’t even imagine how many words I read a day on the internet. And there’s a lot of video content that I would like to take in. About 500 hours for every day, my estimate.
          anyhow, well off topic.
          sorry for that and thanks for the comment because it certainly describes most everybody I ever met, but not all people, and not you I assume.

          • Jarek December 17, 2022 at 12:40 pm #

            Yes, I am the same in regards to reading: I often over-extend my forces. Other books you can go back to if distracted, but a long Russian novel requires more sustained effort, alas.

            Right now I’m re-reading Savitri Devi’s “The Lightening and the Sun”, the full version, not Pierce’s abbreviated one.

            She wrote section by section so it can be read that way as well – as long as you are familiar with her theme, it all hangs together.

            Have you read William Gayley Simpson’s “Which Way Western Man”? He wrote much about the madness of “work” and the difficulties of industrialism and modernism to the human spirit.

          • spaingaroo December 19, 2022 at 11:51 am #

            I have heard of that book many times but haven’t as yet read it, or found a copy.
            I have so many to read that it’s stupid.
            Still haven’t read “On Resistance to Evil, By Force” by Ilyin, even though I had to buy it in a panic.
            I read Go Free; A Guide to Aligning with the Archetype of Westernkind by a guy called Jason Köhne.
            Looking for it on the bookshelf (as I couldn’t remember the name) made me feel stupid, as there are so many tasks to be done. I have at least twice as many books that I haven’t read yet as those that I have.
            But Which Way Western Man has a poetic title and a pretty nifty piece of aliteración.

      • niner December 16, 2022 at 1:14 pm #

        The honorable old timer, Michael Rivero,
        httxx://www.whatreallyhappened.com/NEW/

        said this in the early naughts, and it stuck with me ever since:

        Michael Rivero “Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one’s self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.”

        • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 11:03 am #

          good quote, writing that one down.

        • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 11:57 am #

          goes well with this quote, originally from a zerohedge commenter as far as I know
          “The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
          They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love.
          They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it.
          They know that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over.
          The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide.
          They are literally killing off who they used to be.
          Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives.
          They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror.
          TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

          • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 11:58 am #

            by the way, impossible to find this quote using google.
            Duck duck go brought it straight up for me.

          • Jarek December 17, 2022 at 12:42 pm #

            Conjoined with the image of a Road Warrior looking into a pool, the reflection showing him in better days with his girlfriend.

          • niner December 17, 2022 at 6:28 pm #

            i like it. i like it very much spaingaroo.

            i think the soldiers of the American revolution may have been of that quality.

            we put up with the brits for hundreds of years. they even called us the colonials.

            finally, we had enough.

      • Cactus Girl December 16, 2022 at 2:08 pm #

        @Disaffected:
        My thoughts exactly. I live amongst some of the most highly educated people in the country, and it’s amazing to me just how stupid they are.

        • Night Owl December 16, 2022 at 3:28 pm #

          Reminds me of my time in Washington DC. Seemingly everyone has a master’s degree or PhD, and most couldn’t critically think their way out of a paper bag.

        • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 4:40 pm #

          I’ve noticed that too, Cactus. It’s so weird. Maybe we have to redefine what “highly educated” means these days.

          • Song Sabai December 18, 2022 at 3:37 am #

            Or perhaps, what it’s not; -‘Educated-Ignorance’-

    • Woodchuck December 16, 2022 at 11:49 am #

      How will the nation handle it? The same way we handle everything else. Ignore it all and hope it goes away. And then go back to watching tv, drinking, and smoking dope. There’s only one thing that will put the masses into revolt, and that’s the death of the dollar. With everyone starving, broke, and freezing in the dark in winter. When there’s no food, no fuel, and no money, only then will the public suspect something is wrong. And it will be way too late by then.

      • AmericanObserver December 16, 2022 at 12:25 pm #

        Until constant rolling blackouts that last for days occur, our sheeple populace will be, as you said, quite fine as long as the beer, porn, THC, gambling and streaming services are functioning.

      • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 1:11 pm #

        Good, Wood. You’re waking up. So? And? What is the takeaway?

        Obviously that Democracy is contraindicated. Letting the average person vote is madness.

        • happiface December 16, 2022 at 1:35 pm #

          the only change that will come is after the crash and burn–the repubs in office are spineless maggots–almost all part of the problem–that guy rommey,and before him orrin hatch that the good but sheep people of utah keep putting back in office are typical of the problem–so crash and burn it will be–might be helped along with more than a few russian/china nukes

          • Jarek December 17, 2022 at 12:44 pm #

            Mormons: We like Romney.
            Why?
            Mormons: Uh…..
            Because he is a Mormon, right? You suck.

            Never forget Mountain Meadows. Nor what the Zulus did to our people at Blood river.

        • Frank Buttitch December 17, 2022 at 12:59 pm #

          After “waking up” are we “woke”

          • Song Sabai December 18, 2022 at 3:40 am #

            Past-tense, yes…present-tense..AWAKE!!

    • Walter B December 16, 2022 at 1:44 pm #

      And more importantly, so will the entities with the power to stop the madness, prosecute the crime, and/or turn the decline of this nation around. Our host has always reported all of the sordid aspects of the goings on in America in great detail and with great accuracy, but the dirt bags that “lead” US(A), have not slowed down the express Train to Hell they are engineering by one mph regardless of the lighting conditions.

      In fact, they are giving Casey Jones a run for his money with their hands on the throttle speeding towards Dead Nation’s Bend”.

      I am told that last night Tucker Carlson hosted a very interesting show on the assassination of JFK and although I have not watched it yet, it will be an interesting catalyst if THAT tale of murder and Deep State control ever finds its way onto the public stage in detail. America has been taken hostage by the Mob Who Couldn’t Speak Straight and unfortunately, far too many Americans are not capable of thinking straight or even giving a damn about anything they cannot drink, smoke, eat, or fornicate with so my bet remains on Continued Decay, ending with Over the Cliff You Go. And I do not think it will take long for me to be proven right. The dementia riddled dimwit in the Oval Office has two more years to screw us, and with his demented masters pulling every string in the book, I am totally confident that the old dotard can drive this train straight to the bottom of Dead Man’s Gulch.

      Watch and learn, NOTHING will get better, only worse.

      • Walter B December 16, 2022 at 1:50 pm #

        A response to:

        JohnAZ

        December 16, 2022 at 9:58 am #

        “You have to wonder how the nation will handle it”

        IMHO,

        A large collective DUH!

      • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 7:37 pm #

        Walter B! You are our champion!
        Like Belisarius, thou hast fought the good fight, winning great victory, only to see the enemy return.

        Stout heart! God put you here, at this time, because it is here that you are needed. We who watch hear your story, and learn, would that there might someday be a million Walter B’s. You have done, and will, and are a light unto us!

        You will not remember us, but we…
        We will always remember you.

        • crudgemudgeon December 17, 2022 at 12:37 am #

          Alzaebo, that was very nice, and I agree with those sentiments.

        • Walter B December 17, 2022 at 6:48 am #

          Alzaebo and crudgemudgeon and to all of you that have appreciated my efforts, thank you and I SHALL remember you all for your kindness. It is the few and infrequent thankful sentiments that you have sent me that keep me going forward even though we walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, for He is with us.

          God bless you all and keep you well. Merry Christmas – Happy Birthday Jesus!

  3. Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 10:03 am #

    There is whining going on about Elon Musk’s banning of a number of *journalists, and *news sites from Twitter, but in the case of the NY Times, by their own rules about dealing in hacked documents, Elon was merely giving the same sauce to the gander that was used for the goose.

    They ran a story based on hacked documents made publicly available online.

    • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 10:16 am #

      The same folks that call down Fox will be mounting an offensive against Musk. The same group of Liberal aholes that went after Trump the moment he announced in 2016.

      It all works the same, attack the individual representing the opposition.. The Democratic Deep State machine is a pro at it.

      DeSantis in Florida and Abbott in Texas are having targets painted on them now.

      Doucy in Arizona is being attacked for putting the “illegal” rail cars on the border. Arizona is being sued now to remove the blockage.

      Get the idea, if you do not support the Mob’s positions, you have a target drawn on you.

      It is continuous and over whelming.

      • Woodchuck December 16, 2022 at 12:06 pm #

        The “mob” is just a big parasite composed of people who depend on making their living from the hosts (the public) they are attached to. Once the people have nothing left for the parasites to consume, both the people and the parasites perish. The worms, rats and other scavengers eat them all, and the survivors decide it’s a bad idea to try and rebuild living arrangements that have expiration dates clearly stamped on them.

        • SW December 16, 2022 at 1:23 pm #

          There’s still plenty to steal from all of us who are somewhere on the continuum of the middle class which is why 87,000 IRS agents are to be added, Venmo is to report any transaction over $600 (apparently for tax purposes) and private digital currency will be replaced sometime in the future with one controlled by the government.

          Remember “you will own nothing and be happy”? Well, we still own something and that makes them Unhappy.

      • cbeard December 16, 2022 at 1:26 pm #

        If they have any balls left in Arizona, they should moblize their national guard to stop the feds from touching those freight boxes on the border. As a matter of fact, it would be a good idea for all states to send guardsmen to the border. If the feds won’t stop immigration, then the states should do so. The wall may never built, since we may soon be totally bankrupt after the BRICS countries kill the dollar. Maybe the states should start deportations also.

        • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 5:13 pm #

          State Governors- may Desantis remain one- were the ones who gave us the Magna Carta.

          • Ron Anselmo December 16, 2022 at 11:21 pm #

            Yes, for the umpteenth time, we need DeSantis to remain a strong governor in Florida. Maybe the state starts the Southern secession movement (again) in earnest.

            ~ A fourth generation Floridian

  4. Irish December 16, 2022 at 10:04 am #

    There are darker, more sinister players behind the scenes dear man and all of this will be hidden under a mile-high wall of obfuscation. And you can bet your ass that SBF will never see the light of day again. He’ll be suicided in jail in the Bahamas and no one will be the wiser as to where all those billions of dollars went.

    • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 10:14 am #

      Indeed! Are we absolutely certain he’s even a real person and not some conveniently created media sock puppet to sell another cover story? I’m skeptical of everything I hear these days.

      • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 10:24 am #

        The billions of dollars will just be replaced by running the presses, adding to the inflation.

        • Paula D December 16, 2022 at 10:30 am #

          I doubt it. I think they will default and everyone but them will own nothing.

          • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 11:15 am #

            Paula

            Too easy to run the presses politically.

            BTW, running the presses to worthless dollar value is essentially default.

          • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 11:16 am #

            Russia, China wins.

          • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 2:46 pm #

            It’ll be both. Run the presses until they can’t anymore (or just get bored with the whole charade) and then default and consolidate their winnings. The end result will be the same.

        • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 5:18 pm #

          Putin, calling Xi (and bin Salman and Modi): “hey guys, you notice we’re all back on the gold standard now?”

      • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 5:15 pm #

        His old lady, Hoot Owl Girl, sold him out for a cool $20 million. That was her reward as the “whistleblower”.

  5. RaymondR December 16, 2022 at 10:08 am #

    The general trend in N. America reminds me of the phenomenon during the 1980’s where enterprises were purchased using junk bonds, their saleable assets sold off, and the empty husk of the company allowed to go bankrupt while the perps danced their way to the bank. I think that was M. Milliken who turned this into an art form before being jailed for fraud. Nowadays, instead of individual enterprises it is entire polities that are being strip mined to enrich a few corrupt operators. The media aid this fraudulent operation by keeping us diverted with inconsequential outrages.

    It will all end in tears.

    • spaingaroo December 16, 2022 at 10:27 am #

      My dad is kept alive by his hatred for the man sent in to ‘restructure’ Australia’s largest bank back in the eighties, (to prepare it for the future of mergers and mayhem that was coming) and has kept a newspaper clipping where said individual states.
      “I am the fixer, I come in and fix things. If they aren’t broken, then I break them so I can fix them.”
      or word to that effect.

    • Paula D December 16, 2022 at 10:32 am #

      And their pensions were stripped and looted. That was always part of it.

      Then the government “fixed” that little problem by selling 401Ks to the public, deluding the gullible with tales of great wealth in the by and by.

      There are still people who fervently believe in that scam.

      • Q. Shtik December 16, 2022 at 2:18 pm #

        Then the government “fixed” that little problem by selling 401Ks to the public, deluding the gullible with tales of great wealth in the by and by. – Paula D

        ==========

        When 401k’s came into existence I signed up and always put into it the max allowed which if memory serves was 15% of your pay at that time. Many companies also matched a certain portion of whatever you put in. My employer would match 1/2 of what you put in up to a max of 3%. Therefore if you put in 6% you would get an additional 3% free. I did this right up until I retired in Feb 2006 and then converted the 401k to an IRA. By that date I had accumulated a considerable amount and never withdrew from it until required to do so at age 70.5 in the form of RMDs (Required Minimum Distributions).

        The RMD amount became taxable income on your tax return at that point. If the 401k (or IRA) owner made reasonable decisions as how to invest the money such as in diversified Exchange Traded Funds (ETFs) and didn’t attempt to “day trade” with the accumulated amount (which would be courting disaster) a person could do quite well. Basically, holding thru thick and thin proved to be the best strategy.

        I have never had a beef with the workings of the 401k plan and I don’t understand what YOUR beef is. In what sense was the government “deluding the gullible with tales of great wealth in the by and by.?”

        • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 2:44 pm #

          Q. Man,

          Your experience is of a select period of time when things were good post-WWII. Yes, it all made sense in your time when times were exceedingly good. But the whole thing was never anything more than a Ponzi scheme over the long term, premised on the idea of exponential growth in the markets forever and ever (Amen!) with only minor periodic downturns, although those are never talked about at all. And of course the more nefarious purpose of of IRA’s, 401K’s and all the rest is to drive private money into the markets, thus temporarily at least bolstering their value, and even more importantly, passing the risk for collapse off onto the pension holders, who are now just average investors. The experience of the youngsters and midsters now will definitely not mirror yours. The markets are so fragile now that only wholesale liquidity injections of funny money by the Fed are keeping the whole scheme going. Rest assured, that can’t and won’t go on forever.

          • hmuller December 16, 2022 at 5:10 pm #

            People in the financial industry ( a whole lot of them ) have lived high on the hog for decades. Where did those resources come from. I think basically they spent our retirement nest eggs, just like the federal government spent the social security surplus over the years.

            As they say on South Park “aaaand it’s gone”

            A pile of paper promises (bonds, stocks, REITs, etc) can vanish in smoke when you need them most.

            You know what you need to do for your financial salvation. And the time is running out.

          • Islander December 17, 2022 at 9:44 pm #

            “But the whole thing was never anything more than a Ponzi scheme over the long term, premised on the idea of exponential growth in the markets forever and ever (Amen!) with only minor periodic downturns”

            I disagree.
            You don’t have to invest for growth. You can invest for dividends. Also, sophisticated investors also make money on downturns. I certainly am not one of those, but I can still make modest progress without knowing any fancy/risky moves.

            Re “And of course the more nefarious purpose of of IRA’s, 401K’s and all the rest is to drive private money into the markets,”

            In addition, though, falling interest rates drove money into the markets (away from safe holding tanks such as CDs).

            As for downturns, these seem to be inevitable in our current economic system. But you don’t have to get wiped out (depending on how you have invested). The safest strategy is still to invest in solid companies that pay decent dividends, hang on if there is a downturn, buy the dips. Manage your own money; don’t waste it on fees.

            I don’t know a thing about bonds, but at the current time it looks like the bond markets might pose the greatest hazard to the whole system. At least, that is what Michael Hudson has said more than once. Because of low interest rates. Many pension funds and I suppose that includes 401ks are heavily invested in bonds, to provide regular income to pensioners. Now those fund don’t have the interest coming in to cover the promised payments.

            it certainly is true that the current economic picture is far grimmer than it was for baby boomers, who were able to find jobs and save money. But I think that is different from stating that 401ks and IRAs were designed as a Ponzi scheme.

            OTOH, remember when Bush wanted to privatize the Social Security fund and give it to Wall Street to manage?

            Lots of money has always been lost by the common folk in the modern economy starting in I guess the 19th century. Of course the biggest criminals and thieves are bankers—the big ones. “They” may be planning to “pull” the whole system soon because of the debt disaster. The smart folk are advising to convert any money one has into real assets ASAP.

          • hmuller December 18, 2022 at 10:57 am #

            Islander, most of your post describes what has worked well in the past, e.g. buy the dips, the stock market always recovers.

            The past 80 years have been the era of American empire and dollar dominance. If that changes, so does the conventional investment paradigm.

            Europeans and Asians know that once in a while a really big disaster comes along and destroys accumulated wealth. The middle class and anyone trusting the currency and paper financial instruments are most hurt.

            I feel big changes in the wind, perhaps you don’t. Good luck.

          • Paula D December 18, 2022 at 1:47 pm #

            Many corporations don’t pay dividends any more and 401Ks certainly don’t.
            The stock market always recovers, but not the corporations that were wiped out.
            How’s that Sears stock working out for you?

            I remember when I was a kid my mother showed me an actual stock. Her father had invested in some corporation and received a fancy piece of paper showing part ownership and promising dividends. I forget what corporation. It is long gone and was before I was born.

            Looking at stock market fluctuations and deciding from that to invest in a certain corporation because “the stock market always recovers” is not something I would do.

            And again, 401Ks don’t give dividends. I never did understand how you were supposed to receive all those promised riches in the by-and-by, since they never promised to give dividends or returns.
            If we are to believe Q you are expected to take out the principal to live on. Great plan! Be sure to die early enough to not run out.

          • Q. Shtik December 18, 2022 at 4:41 pm #

            Many corporations don’t pay dividends any more and 401Ks certainly don’t. – Paula

            And again, 401Ks don’t give dividends. – Paula

            ==============

            Paula, your lack of understanding of finance and the stock market could fill a large football stadium. You must have majored in something like maybe nursing. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

            I, on the other hand, got my college degree in Accounting (St Joe’s College, Philly) and 16 years later an MBA in Finance (Rutgers U., New Brunswick).

            More than 80% of the 500 companies that make up the S&P 500 pay dividends (What in God’s name do you mean “many corps don’t pay dividends any more?”). Companies operate businesses and earn profits. Managements meet quarterly and decide whether it is appropriate to declare a dividend. There are some types of companies that investors like because they almost always pay dividends and at a higher yield % than other companies. Utilities, for example, typically pay high dividends and do so consistently.

            There are two main reasons why a company may not declare a dividend payment: 1) they didn’t earn enough profits to feel comfortable about distributing those profits to shareholders or 2) management believed their profits would be better spent in growing the business. Once a company sets out on a path of paying dividends they stick with it. They do not start, stop, start, stop.

            Of COURSE 401k’s do not pay dividends. They are not companies with businesses that earn profits from which dividends could be paid. Rather, they are a way to save for your retirement. You can always focus your investment choices on big dividend payers like utilities if that is your choice.

            Do you understand the pros and cons of salting away a portion of your earnings on a tax deferred basis? I don’t think you do.

            Paula, your inane mention of having been penalized (somehow??) by participating in a 401k plan tells me you probably took a distribution before age 59.5 years old. I imagine you as a typical American with so little resolve that you simply cannot forego current consumption. If you make $30K per year you will spend $30K. If you make $75K you will spend $75K, if you make $250K you will spend $250K.

            Are you one of these pathetic people who don’t even have $500 set aside in case the hot water heater springs a leak or the car needs a brake job?

            The more I hear from you now under the name Paula D the more I am reminded of your socialistic ways back in the day when your screen name was Wage Laborer.

            BTW, I am also disappointed with the remarks from Disaffected and hmuller in support of your uninformed utterances.

          • Paula D December 18, 2022 at 7:44 pm #

            Try to focus Q.
            I said that 401Ks don’t replace defined pensions. You admit that they don’t, but then sneer that people who can’t save enough to finance their retirement are spendthrifts.

            IF 401Ks paid quarterly dividends, then you could claim that they are an adequate replacement for a monthly pension, but they don’t, so they aren’t.

            Basically, you invested for 40 years in a Christmas Club, putting money in a savings account so that they could hand it back at the end. Maybe.

            Meanwhile the fund managers lived high on the hog on your contributions for all those years. Sweet gig!

            Also 20% of 500 is 100 corporations. That doesn’t qualify as “many”? I think it does.

            I note that you are unable to communicate without insults.

            Sad.

    • Freddie December 16, 2022 at 11:33 am #

      Milliken?
      I think the guy you’re thinking of is Carl Icahn?

      • RaymondR December 16, 2022 at 1:37 pm #

        Yes both Michael Milken and Carl Icahn were part of the movement

      • hmuller December 16, 2022 at 5:19 pm #

        Now we have Sam Bankman Fried, the idiot savant, such an obvious, laughable fraud. Yet people handed over their money him in return for the promise of pixie dust.

    • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 11:35 am #

      The plot of “Wall Street”

    • elysianfield December 16, 2022 at 11:52 am #

      “their saleable assets sold off, and the empty husk of the company allowed to go bankrupt while the perps danced their way to the bank.”

      #MittRomney

    • Woodchuck December 16, 2022 at 12:08 pm #

      Not just ending in tears. There will be plenty of blood and sweat involved as well.

      • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 1:16 pm #

        Churchill’s trinity of fluids. If you work hard (sweat), you may be able to avoid the other two. But when tears come, blood isn’t far behind. Then wisdom and lots of sweat are needed to stop the descent.

    • Lyndy33 December 16, 2022 at 12:37 pm #

      I believe Romney et al were into something like that. Where did that one go?

      • happiface December 16, 2022 at 1:43 pm #

        rommey a corporate raider like the others mentioned above–they all put a lot of people out of work–killed off bond holders,stole billions,er,legally …..grifters,psychopaths

        • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 12:09 pm #

          and now they are using the word ‘grifter’ principally to talk about antivaxxers.
          I got it used on me and used to describe all the sources that I linked to on twitter yesterday.
          I live in a hovel on the proceeds of being part of the “antivaxx industry”
          Alinsky is huge in all this.
          Always accuse the other of that which you are doing.

    • RaymondR December 16, 2022 at 1:35 pm #

      Check Wikipedia for Michael Milken, a.k.a. the Junk Bond King.

      • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 5:50 pm #

        Milliken was an early adopter taking advantage not only of the flood of Reagan debt for speculation, but of the creation of LBO’s in 1981.

        Leveraged buy-outs, the key of the mergers-acquisitions way, arose because the Nabisco umbrella corporation wanted to launder its Phillip Morris tobacco profits in Europe. The undeclared drug money in banks- a trickle at the time- immediately jumped into the laundering.

        Pappy Bush and Ollie North’s Cocaine Contras kick-started the industry in America into high gear to benefit the Military Intel Community’s black budget maneuvers

        The undeclared liquidity in banks- money to be used, but not acknowledged- became a huge fulcrum, the point that levered all One percenter asset classes ever higher.

        Governments, banks, and trading houses depend on this inflation and leverage for endless growth; betting not only on the new scams but on the rate of growth and its evanescent promises of future cash flows has taken capitalism entirely out of the real world of counting physical inventory, of widgets on hand and cost-of-goods-sold, of the supply and demand we used to know as “capital” (savings).

  6. chopper December 16, 2022 at 10:10 am #

    JIM

    I love it when you name names. The normies need to hear who and what brought them to this terrible point in our history.

    • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 10:15 am #

      Yep. It was good to see those scumbags actually named. I still have hopes that Fauci, at least, will swing. He’s looking rattled. If everything was going okay, he’d be on every other chatshow to ringing applause, taking his lap of honour. He’s not. He’s on the defensive.

    • Islander December 16, 2022 at 11:44 am #

      Yes, naming names is the name of the game.

    • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 1:18 pm #

      Adam named every beast in the garden. As it was in the beginning, so it is at the End.

  7. spaingaroo December 16, 2022 at 10:10 am #

    I spent all afternoon yesterday jousting with a warrior for the vaccines on Twitter. They don’t seem to understand that their game is up.
    He/she/it seemed to think that as long as he kept calling me an antivaxxer and then linking five to ten studies from his list on each comment he could defeat me.
    I just refused to play his game.

    I left the book “Turtles All The Way Down” as important to read if one wanted to understand how being an antivaxxer is actually a sign of mental acumen rather than the opposite, and of course he/she/it just dismissed it off hand as the ranting of an ‘anti-vax grifter’ and then later on claimed to have read it, without paying for it, as if that makes him more noble.

    It was sort of entertaining but one gets sick of that sort of shite pretty quickly.
    During one of the pauses I took to clear my head I listened to the Kunstlercast with Stefanie Seneff and when I came back I linked it for anybody following our little ‘debate’

    The troll then showed a screenshot of Jim’s description of Stefanie’s work and highlighted the phrase ‘the relation between vaccines and autism’ and proclaimed that he could save her the work, because “there isn’t one”
    I smell desperation, but I admit, I am not so sanguine about the possibility of the wheels of justice grinding fine.
    The Republicans have long demonstrated that they are the other wing of the same bird.
    Never underestimate the obtuseness of our enemies. They just ignore everything that doesn’t please their whims as if it doesn’t exist.
    My jousting partner claimed I was killing people about three separate times.
    Kept offering me ‘an amnesty’ if I would just stop spreading information that was killing people.

    • spaingaroo December 16, 2022 at 10:15 am #

      oh, an an interesting factoid. If you try searching for the book Turtles All The Way Down on googler you won’t find it. Only once you add the complete subtitle Vaccine science and myth will you get google to realise what you are looking for.

    • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 10:16 am #

      I believe that there will be some kind of payback, but not, as Jim intimates, from the useless GOP. They will do nothing.

      • abbybwood December 16, 2022 at 11:40 am #

        I read somewhere that even if Republican committee heads issue subpoenas that Biden can stop them.

        • Islander December 16, 2022 at 11:48 am #

          Surely that wouldn’t be a very good look!

          Separation of powers?

    • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 10:19 am #

      I continue to say this war will not be won with “facts” and “proofs.” It will come down to the same thing everything does eventually: experience and common sense, aka passing “the bullshit test.” Was a time when that was common knowledge, unfortunately that time is no more. Sigh!

      • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 1:23 pm #

        As someone said, they weren’t argued into believing in the Vax, and they won’t be argued out of it. It was all fear, browbeating, and “public opinion”, so called.

        Our tactics will be the same. Logic isn’t on the pallet of most. But seeing people keel over will move some. And then when they hear people talking about it and connecting the dots, well that might do it. Then we’ll have mass movement. People will be shamed for believing in this nonsense just as we do here.

        • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 2:08 pm #

          I agree with you, Jarek, and the only question is how dramatic the evidence of premature death becomes. Increasing number of unexplained excess mortality certainly is starting to get some traction. But this is not merely a question of documenting the accelerating quantity of excess deaths but also firmly establishing the true causality of these deaths.

          In order to convince people of causality the censorship campaign against the doctors who told the truth about the mRNA concoctions must end.

          At some point I cannot help but believe that the censorship will fully collapse and the mainstream media will finally be compelled by circumstances to report out the truth or risk becoming about as relevant to the average consumer of news as say, MSNBC, or CNN have become. Hell, some may even finally start telling the truth after personal unnecessary tragedy touches THEIR families and then the truth can no longer be denied in good conscience. (One would hope, anyway….)

          • mrs_saj December 18, 2022 at 8:54 am #

            Let’s not forget clot shot induced disability either (which I frequently forget about). I think VAERS has documented 1290 side effects due to the MRNA shots. I would imagine that there are a number of these side effects that can lead to death. But many of these side effects just lead to long term disability. And folks battling long term disability aren’t likely to be in the public square screeching for vaccine mandates or prohibiting the unvaxxed from grocery shopping. Celine Dion’s Stiff Person Syndrome is a high profile example of what I’m talking about, but there will be millions of instances of people withdrawing from public engagement due to their declining health.

            This will alter the public discourse.

        • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 4:47 pm #

          Yes, Chesterton was right. You can’t reason someone out of a belief that they didn’t use reason to get into. Most vaxxers and Covidiots got into this through emotions, not reason. Only when their emotions are shocked into the other direction will they come out of it. It’s like the Dreyfus case in France – THE poster child for emotional thinking where a national issue is concerned. The truth about Dreyfus’s innocence came out very quickly, but it took the ordinary Frenchman 8 years for the reason and logic of the facts overcome his anti-semitic emotions and admit that Dreyfus was not guilty. It will be the same with the vax nightmare.

          • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 6:03 pm #

            Ah, so that’s the Dreyfus case.
            And by extension, all of his people are innocent, yes? Moral paragons, ennobled by their senseless victimization, Why, they are fellow whites, and will not act as a tribe, against the interests of whites, surely.

          • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 6:06 pm #

            Note that it was a white man who used reason to find the highest moral solution here- and expected such a mindset to be returned.

          • Hereward the Woke December 17, 2022 at 10:15 am #

            Dreyfus was was one man. Why are you bringing up a whole race? Are you channeling your inner Jarek?

          • Jarek December 17, 2022 at 12:50 pm #

            Reductio ad Jarekeum. If Jarek believes something, it must be wrong. If Jarek believes 2+2=4, then it doesn’t.

            Wokey the Chimp logic.

            Tribe?

    • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 10:29 am #

      Spaingaroo – What you are describing is a true fanatic of the fevered brow variety. No amount of logic, evidence, and reason will ever persuade such a person. I’m sure that you must see this.

      Honestly, at the age of 60, I no longer engage with such people. Time is the most precious commodity on the planet for mortal beings such as us and life is too short to waste much energy debating with total jackasses whose loyalty to ideological positions trumps everything else in life.

      But, I comprehend the desire to confront muddle-headed people and to try to dispel the lunacies that they peddle. When I was much younger I had much greater enthusiasm for such crusades. But looking back I now believe that no debate I was ever in had any truly profound or lasting impact. The world has continued to deteriorate and this country, in particular, scarcely resembles the one I grew up in any longer. Maybe a swayed a few people here and there, but apparently it never “went viral” and made a difference. I suspect that’s the case for most of us who’ve tried.

      • Islander December 16, 2022 at 12:05 pm #

        Wizard—I tend to agree.

        I doubt that directly arguing with a contrary-believer accomplishes much.

        I believe people’s views, beliefs, and convictions change incrementally, barring occasional come-to-Jesus moments.

        Even those moments may well be just the sprouting of seeds that have lain around unconsciously for a while.

        I have pretty much gone silent to my little email list—there is just too much Kool-Aid being drunk for me to keep up. I have become quite discouraged.

        Last week, though, I sent an FYI with a link to the story from Germany concerning excess deaths and esp. in young age groups.

        That got two responses–granted, from people who are already skeptics.

        I think one of the best communicaiton gambits is just to mention important info in passing, so that it become the wallpaper. Instead of attacking head-on. That is what the MSM narrative does: presents as established fact—just in passing—and then builds a logical structure/argument on the “facts.”

        What this might look like :

        Just assume that everyone knows that there are alarming excess deaths; that there are thousands of “died suddenly.”

        E.g., “Hmm, what with all of these sudden deaths and excess deaths statistics, maybe don’t take any boosters.”

        • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 2:14 pm #

          I’m with you on that approach, Islander. The Left presents all of their propaganda as if it is the unquestioned truth and conventional wisdom – even when pushing narratives that did not exist the week before!

          Fight fire with fire. Our narratives should be presented in the same, matter-of-fact manner. Bury the bastards under billions of random comments across the Internet on excess deaths and other tidbits of “disturbing facts.” Count on a process of osmosis to allow all of these “background noise” to slowly seep through even the thickest of skulls until suddenly – one fine day – each of these dense NPC types suddenly has an epiphany and realizes that they were lied to all along.

          We don’t need to gain credit for exposing the truth. We just need to gain the satisfaction and benefit of having the truth embraced by a solid supermajority of the general population.

          • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 7:25 pm #

            Yes, Wizard, absolutely right.
            Grains of sand in the gears, leading to a preference cascade. Rebellion is sexy.

          • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 12:32 pm #

            yeah, that’s it, just keep putting the truth out there, even if everyone hates it.
            Or maybe especially when everyone hates it.
            There is no my truth and your truth, there’s just the truth.

      • chopper December 16, 2022 at 12:24 pm #

        I return to my theme that history teaches rules change when societies break down. Ours is in the early stages of breakdown. Police, district attorneys, courts and prisons all become secondary to the less organized system driven by revenge. You might not join those seeking to inflict harm on those that drove the ship of state and medicine but many will. Killing children is sufficient motive for more than a few thousand.

      • niner December 16, 2022 at 2:24 pm #

        it has nothing to do with your opponent.

        this is about the audience.

        • niner December 16, 2022 at 2:26 pm #

          and the morphic field.

          • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 7:17 pm #

            That is a deeply interesting phrase to one of my ilk. Could you expand on that, please? As in, what do you understand it to be.

          • niner December 16, 2022 at 11:06 pm #

            Alzaebo,

            probably the most acceptable and vanilla definition is supplied by Rupert Sheldrake.

            and i think Steiner came at it through a slightly different approach.

          • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 12:33 pm #

            niner, and look what happened to Rupert Sheldrake when he put it out there.
            Attacked mercilessly so we know he was onto something real.

          • niner December 17, 2022 at 6:44 pm #

            yes, spaingaroo, we american materialists are not allowed to go there.

            it’s like ali baba’s cave. or smaug’s mountain horde of treasure.

            they mock it as a fantasy.

            what is the most painfully ironic, is that the transhumanists want to go there, but they want to sneak in by material means and control the gate and the road.

            they plan to gain the enhanced powers by a trick, without having to learn the rules of morality and discipline.

            they are afraid they will lose their hunger for power, even while they acquire more power. that ravening hunger to eat the world.

      • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 4:49 pm #

        That’s the right response. Best to save your energies in preparation for the new world that is being born as we speak. It will be a very different place.

        • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 6:26 pm #

          In short, you’re not attacking their “facts”, you’re attacking their identity.

          This is a reversion to the deepest, oldest wiring, triggered by trauma conditioning. They are broken inside, and we cannot save them all.

          We would, they would not- that’s the difference. There must be triage.

          • Hereward the Woke December 17, 2022 at 10:17 am #

            Translation required.

      • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 6:20 pm #

        Hypocrisy, lying, projection, false accusation, double standards, double-talk: all such are water off a commie’s back.

        Why? Because to those of a tribal mindset, “principles” don’t matter.

        There is only one principle:
        Win. Win one for the team, by any means necessary.

        This is the narrow moral spectrum of the Left uncovered by Haidt.

        You are seeing a much older mindset, one older than speech: tribalism.

        My Tree, right or wrong. No matter what one of mine does, we will defend him, as alone we are targets to other tribes.

        And since surely we are right no matter which way our wind blows, they think as we do, and will attack our troupe as we would attack theirs.
        We’re just taking back what should be ours.

        • niner December 16, 2022 at 11:18 pm #

          exactly. the left-side person is born or adopts himself into a “tribe.”

          and the assumptions of this tribe are not opposite to the attitudes of right-side tolerance of live and let live.

          rather, they are orthogonal.

          it really is below the level of fact or logic, or even consciousness. it is a matter of identity.

        • Jarek December 17, 2022 at 1:06 pm #

          Thus my beef with Rulo – a fine man in many ways. He always instinctively agrees with women and minorities. He’s not playing for our team. He may look like us, but he is not of the Body, not Clan.

          Because if we continue to ignore this ancient Law, Sir Arthur Keith Law of Amity and Enmity, we shall vanish from the Earth.

          Schopenhauer: How terrible to debate someone only to realize you are not dealing with a mind, but a Will.

          • niner December 17, 2022 at 6:48 pm #

            wow. Jarek.

            i never heard that schopenhauer quote before. outstanding.

      • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 12:29 pm #

        yes, I got sick of it pretty quickly, although I got a like from the other now silent partner in the thread for most of my comments.
        I just like to let them expose themselves, nothing more.
        I called him out as a paid troll several times. It’s important to keep recognising this publically, as there are still many people who have no idea that such things exist, and still think these are genuine people.
        He did such things as poo-poo reading books, saying only studies are evidence. (even though I pointed out that Turtles All The Way down has 2500 studies linked.)
        then linked to buzzfeed news.
        You gotta just let them paint their own portrait. My only regret is so few people were watching.
        I reckon that the people watching may often come round, I mean not right away, but these things happen because of seeds of doubt sown and later blossoming.
        Just keep sowing seeds of doubt (in the bystanders, I know the troll isn’t going to change one bit)

        • Jarek December 17, 2022 at 1:07 pm #

          Wokey is the same: Always goes for the weak line – the women. Always agrees with them, panders to them.

        • mrs_saj December 18, 2022 at 9:38 am #

          Spaingaroo, I appreciate whatever efforts you make to fight back the waves of mis-information, evil, propaganda, and ignorance. Everyone here seems to be able to fight in their own way. That is just one of the reasons this blog is so special to me.

          I’m not quite as old as Wizard of the Saddle (I’m 52), but I too am very tired of not just arguing with people who I have no chance of swaying, but also of being the only person who admits to thinking something is horribly wrong. I dropped out of two book clubs comprising over 30 women. I have always (over 10 years) been the only conservative in these two groups and I’ve taken some lumps for it over the years. But I decided I have better things to do than argue with these ladies about Biden, COVID, and the clot shots. My ladies golf league is nearly the same, over 30 women with only two other conservatives, one of whom told me she got vaccinated because it was required at the hospital where she volunteers. I still golf with them, but I’ve said all I’m going to say about the government propaganda and public gaslighting.

          Instead I focused my efforts this year on my preps. It was very high stress and very exhausting but it was worth it. My and my husband’s situation is more secure. And, if nothing else, I have new learnings I can share with this group of people who actually have their eyes open to the world, even if we don’t all agree all the time.

          • niner December 18, 2022 at 5:25 pm #

            i do want to hear more about your preps.
            any little thing will be interesting.

    • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 10:32 am #

      They claim to have saved millions of lives,

      Did they? Is there data comparing a vaxxed population versus an unvaxxed one? Nope!

      Right now, the Omicron vaxx is already obsolete, it is not even slowing down the latest variants.

      China is being attacked right now for unsealing their population and allowing the people to get Covid naturally and finally build herd immunity.

      Who is attacking them?

      Guess!

    • NickelthroweR December 16, 2022 at 10:32 am #

      My sister runs a clinic for children and young adults with Autism and has been doing so since the late ’90’s. She is so good at what she does that Brazil models its clinics after my sister’s and so does Vietnam.

      My sister’s approach to the problem is so successful that she has been able to send many of her clients to public school and that is where the problems begin.

      See, if you meet a parent that has a child with autism then you’ve probably met an anti-vaxer as I is well known in the autism community that vaccines wreak havoc on children that have autism.

      Anyway, my sister will spend years working with a child such that the child is able to attend public school but public schools will not allow your child to attend unless they have some of the basic vaccines. Consequently, my sister has seen her clients lose the ability to talk, walk or even hold themselves upright after a single vaccine forced upon them by a school district. Years of work down the drain after a single common vaccine and it doesn’t take weeks but happens immediately.

      The sad part of this is that everyone involved in poisoning our children has immunity against prosecution. No one can be held to account.

      This is something I’ve known for decades and the public will soon find out that it really is turtles all the way down when it comes to prosecuting the people responsible. It will be impossible.

      • Woodchuck December 16, 2022 at 12:22 pm #

        “This is something I’ve known for decades and the public will soon find out that it really is turtles all the way down when it comes to prosecuting the people responsible. It will be impossible.”

        The public will continue to be a victim of the “healthcare” system until we all collectively grow set of balls and STOP going to doctors, stop taking pills, and stop with all the operations. To do this successfully we must also stop eating poor quality chemically laden garbage food. Most of us are such brainwashed chickenshits and so full of fear that we won’t be able to abandon the system until we are all too broke to support it anymore. The “healthcare” system will only die on its own after the dollar dies.

        • Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 12:51 pm #

          The reason Dr. Fauci was at NIAID and the reason he was so highly paid, was to investigate the steep increase in allergies and auto-immune type disorders in children.

          Instead he funded research into how to make diseases more deadly.

          Meanwhile we still don’t have an answer as to what is causing the rise in autism.

          No, it isn’t just because more kids are being diagnosed as having autism when they don’t.

          There IS some of that, but when you meet families with autistic kids you can see it for yourself, and everybody now knows a family with an autistic child.

          • SW December 16, 2022 at 1:40 pm #

            Under dear, kindly Dr. F. childhood obesity and diabetes exploded but he was too busy with his other projects to mess with kids.

            I’ve read some powerful arguments that support the assertion that a lot of the childhood diseases declined as public sanitation became more common. Our immune system seems to be a balancing act between having just the right amount of exposure to form antibodies and be fully functional but not be overwhelmed by exposures to disease.

            Maybe if someone who took his job at NIAID seriously we’d know more about this .

          • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 6:41 pm #

            We do know. I heard the original researcher interviewed on both left and right wing shows; both interviewers immediately got his summation wrong.

            It’s the amount.
            Far, far too much, too soon.

            Not so much additives, adjutevants, ingredients, or even the vaccines themselves- though all add to the harm.

            The amount: their little bodies with their immature autoimmune systems can’t know that they’re not being attacked by 58 different diseases at once.

            They don’t know the viruses are dead; their autoimmune systems overreact, causing inflammation of the brain with the resultant brain damage.

            Not just autism, the full spectrum- real ADHD, etc. And in males, the universal circumcision trauma does even more, and permanent, brain damage.

          • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 6:46 pm #

            p.s.- a pediatrician in Oregon kept a record for thirty years comparing vaccinated, partially, and unvaccinated children.

            He verified the results that as vaccinations increase, so does unhealth and malady.

          • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 12:37 pm #

            oh, we do have an answer, it’s just they will try and take you out if you say it out loud.

        • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 2:23 pm #

          You have hit the nail on the head, Woodchuck.

          (How much truth an a Woodchuck chuck, if a Woodchuck could chuck truth!?!)

          In all seriousness, just yesterday I was telling my mother that my prior faith in the American healthcare system and doctors in general had been irreparably shattered by the shenanigans that transpired during COVID.

          I am now firmly of the opinion, that the best course for otherwise healthy people is to avoid doctors, hospitals, and pharmaceuticals as much as you can humanly manage and focus instead on an organic, healthy diet, regular exercise, and mental regimens that reduce stress.

          The American medical system today treats patients like rubes and cash cows to be milked for as much cash as can possibly be extracted from both those treated and the deep pockets of the insurance companies and Medicare / Medicaid.

          As our good host has so aptly put it medicine as currently practiced in the United States has simply become another big, corrupt, money-making racket.

          No offense to any medical professionals here on this forum. When y’all comment, you seem to be the exceptions and to share the same view and are thus now outliers in your own profession. One wonders why any young person would go into medicine today unless they are of a completely mercenary mindset.

          • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 4:52 pm #

            I think we have to be careful here. I hate the medical establishment for what it has done over the last few years, and regard most doctors as cowardly poltroons. However, my life is dependent on several key products created by the pharmaceutical industry. I’ve tried all natural alternatives and none of them have worked. Without those meds, I would almost certainly be dead. So, yes, the system is corrupt and broken, but if we can rid of scientific medicine completely, we will return to a healthcare system similar to that of the Dark Ages. Just my tuppence worth.

          • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 6:49 pm #

            Corporate medicine.
            Corporate medicine- 20%, and now how much more, of the American economy- corporate medicine must be destroyed. It has destroyed the highest calling, the healers

          • MimiTN December 16, 2022 at 9:43 pm #

            I feel the same way about the practice of medicine in 2022.
            My late father, a physician, would be shocked and appalled. As is my brother, a happily retired physician.

      • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 1:27 pm #

        But can they cause autism in the first place? That’s the Question. Many say their child was fine until they took one, or perhaps too many at one time.

        • SW December 16, 2022 at 1:43 pm #

          They’re vaccinating infants younger and younger now and with more vaccines too. Here in Texas, an infant gets a hepatitis vaccine before they leave the hospital. A young nurse I worked with used a midwife for a home delivery to avoid this. The medical establishment has a tremendous amount of power.

          • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 6:53 pm #

            Because the state buys by lot, contracts in bulk, from the pharma corp.

            Babies in the first 24 hours of their life can be in danger of getting as many shots as a 19-year old enlisted male in his prime.

          • Woodchuck December 16, 2022 at 8:26 pm #

            One remarkable side effect noticed with the covid lockdowns early on was a sudden decrease in the death rates of children between the ages of infants to toddlers. Graphs were made of this and one could see child mortality rates going down as covid lockdown hysteria was going up. Many people have suggested and noticed that during the peak of covid craziness people weren’t taking their children to pediatricians – to get vaccinations. During peak crazy it was a pleasure to go bicycling because the hypochondriacs had all locked themselves inside and weren’t going out.

            It could very well be that if the vaccinations were stopped, child mortality rates would decrease. A fact like this would go a long way to discredit our healthcare system. The last thing our medical-industrial complex would do is to study and research itself. To determine whether the industry needs to continue or needs to be abandoned because it just doesn’t work.

          • Anthea December 17, 2022 at 12:03 pm #

            @ SW:

            I absolutely implore young women to have their babies at home! There are other issues besides the vaccination of newborns. Probably the biggest issue is the very high C-section rate. The last figures I recall on this is that 30% or more of all deliveries are by C-section. This figure is scandalous. Back in the 80s, when I was having my kids at home, the C-section rate was already about 25%–and that was considered a scandal. The real need for deliveries by C-section is only about !%-2%, and probably a lot of these could be avoided by a skilled midwife.

            Once you’ve had a C-section VBAC (vaginal birth after caesarean) is considered more risky–though many moms opt for this anyway, with success. Once you’ve had a C-section, you will have to think very long and hard about future home birth.

            Another issue that involves harm to newborns is cutting the umbilical cord immediate after birth, while a very large percentage of the baby’s blood is still in the placenta. In a home birth, the parents/midwife wait ten or twenty minutes to allow time for the blood in the placenta to pass to the infant through the umbilical cord, and then cut the cord.

            Beyond these issues, you don’t really know what medical procedures your newborn is undergoing, if you have a hospital birth. The new baby is mostly kept in the nursery.

            If you can’t find a midwife, or if midwifery is illegal in your state, you can have an “unassisted” home birth. (My three home births were all “unassisted.”) There is some literature advocating unassisted home birth–or was, back in the 1980s. One book that I read on this subject was Marilyn Moran’s “Birth and the Dialog of Love” (now out of print, I think), which advocated very strongly for dad’s to deliver the babies. It also contains a lot of good practical advice on sterilizing sheets and making up a bed for home delivery, when to cut the umbilical cord, and how to sterilize scissors and such. Plus there was lots of good advice about preparing and freezing a couple of days worth of meals, so the new mom would not have to cook for a couple of days. This kind of advice can also be found in many other books, such as “Special Delivery.”

            Another good resource is “Emergency Childbirth,” which is a manual for police, firefighters, and similar for delivering babies in emergency conditions where doctor or hospital care is not available. Very simple, straightforward, and practical.

            Back in the day, of course, most babies were delivered by female relatives. I was told that my grandmother delivered some of my aunts’ babies. As the doctor in Gone with the Wind told Scarlett O’Hara, “There’s nothing to bringing a baby.” In former times, obstetricians were scorned by other doctors, who called the “baby catchers”–since that’s about all they did.

            A home birth is a WONDERFUL experience–one of life’s peak experiences, in fact. A hospital birth is usually pretty unpleasant.

          • Jarek December 17, 2022 at 1:24 pm #

            Much can go wrong. Unassisted? You are brave and/or foolish.

            I have no doubt you are right about the C sections though. More money, right?

          • Jarek December 17, 2022 at 1:28 pm #

            The secret to easy childbirth is the “Asian squat”. Feet flat on the floor, now going up on toes which only strains the knees.

            It focuses the downward flowing pranas of the body – thus the best position for defecation as well. One woman had an exchange student from India. She kept finding footprints on the toilet seat. He was squatting on it!

          • Paula D December 17, 2022 at 9:06 pm #

            Anthea I agree with you completely about the importance of home birth, but I disagree about the placenta.

            The blood flow through the placenta stops when it detaches from the mother (obviously), but when the baby takes its first breath, the baby’s circulation changes completely, as the lungs expand and the oxygen comes from its breathing and not from its mother. The umbilical cord is therefore unfunctional at that time, although the veins and artery are still open for a time.

            Definitely cut the cord level with the infant’s heart so that you don’t drain any out of the baby, but there is no need to wait 20 minutes, imo.

            SO many other reasons to give birth at home that I cringe when people go into the hospital.

          • Islander December 17, 2022 at 10:14 pm #

            Anthea,

            thanks for this account.

            Four of my “greats” were “born” with cesarians.

          • mrs_saj December 18, 2022 at 10:53 am #

            Anthea,

            Thank you for your detailed information. I just bought both books on Amazon. I think I got a few chuckles some weeks back when I admitted that one physical skill I plan to take into the future is how to deliver a baby. Well, I’ve been researching it of late. I am almost ready to watch a video. But those books will be great reference information. So thanks.

            Mrs. SAJ

    • Paula D December 16, 2022 at 10:41 am #

      Life is too short to offer facts and information on Twitter?

      What, pray tell, is more important than reaching people who are hypnotized by the establishment into actually harming themselves and their children?

      Each one teach one. If spaingaroo didn’t manage to convince the stooge paid to present lies on Twitter, he might have convinced others cruising by the thread.

      People won’t spontaneously wake up. I remember being taught that crib death started killing babies at age 2 months and was peak between 2 and 6 months. I remember wondering why, if it was a defect in newborns’ breathing, that it didn’t affect babies until they were 2 months old.
      Did I spontaneously connect that fact to the fact that babies got their first injections at two months old?

      No, I did not. It had to be pointed out to me by others.

      But now I know. And I know that they now inject newborns right after birth with hepatitis B vaccine, in case they leave the newborn nursery and go shoot up with a hooker. (Not really.) I can figure out why all by myself now, but someone else had to start me thinking.

      • gustafson.robert.22 December 16, 2022 at 11:37 am #

        Yeah, Twitter is nice for short, to-the-point, unpretentious, low-energy-input-investment debate with significant exposure available to anyone.

      • Islander December 16, 2022 at 12:11 pm #

        Yes, of course providing information does get people thinking.

        Many people who start “thinking” will not admit it to the people who first challenged them—especially if the latter are family members or friends whom they put down and insulted.

        A lot of interpersonal relationship dynamics comes into this being right/wrong space.

        • Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 12:58 pm #

          What I liked about Twitter was the immediacy. Alex Berenson, for instance, was able to analyze data, and adjust and correct his findings with input from others, in almost real time.

          That made it so much more useful to people like me.

          Waiting for an article to be published, then having to go back maybe days later to see if there were any revisions made, wasn’t helpful to people who needed the facts now.

        • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 1:31 pm #

          Exactly. You’ll know you’ve reached someone when they preach to you what you preached to them – forgetting that you were the one who gave it to them.

          But often it won’t be this clear. But sometimes it is.

          • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 12:44 pm #

            wish I had felt this more often.
            But I am happy to get ’em to the point that they will at least sheepishly acknowledge I was right all along.
            And that doesn’t happen very often.
            (and in the case of the vaxxes, too late by then. I usually try only to get them to vow not to take any more. Most will fold as soon as the pressure starts, but anyway…)

        • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 2:30 pm #

          Maybe old Gene Roddenberry was on to something when he came up with the Vulcans on Star Trek – a race of beings who had deliberately chosen, as a society, to suppress emotions in favor of logic as a way of ending war, superstition, and other idiocies that are fed by emoting, instead of thinking dispassionately.

          Imagine if all humans simply considered verifiable facts and then applied logic to solving problems?

          Liberalism – socialism – communism would be kaput. None of them could survive such a regimen of disciplined thought.

          But, sadly, humans are not this way. People who are intelligent, calm, cool, and logical are rare birds. Maybe 1% of the population in reality. The rest are subject to moments of irrationality driven by emotions and a complete failure to apply facts and logic to a given problem. There is little hope for human beings in the long haul. Too many of us still behave like “dangerously bright apes” and little more.

          • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 12:47 pm #

            I know from school scores and that that I am in the 1% but I still have trouble not operating from the emotional level far too often, especially from emotions connected to females.
            Logic and rational thought can take time, and in my case hard experience.
            edit
            Well I just realised I read your comment erroneously and you weren’t saying what I thought you were saying.
            yes, wholeheartedly.

          • Jarek December 17, 2022 at 1:31 pm #

            Yes, the Ancients were correct: Character must be reformed first. Otherwise the intellect will simply tend to serve your pet peeves and vices.

      • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 1:29 pm #

        Mary is gnashing her teeth over the good news of what Musk has done.

        People like this exist.

        • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 2:32 pm #

          The daily Musk news over the past couple of months has been like Christmas Day being crossbred with Groundhog Day.

          Every single day we get to open new presents! It’s a Christmas seemingly without end. LOL….

        • MaryQueen December 16, 2022 at 4:55 pm #

          Why would I gnash my teeth over it?

          What a bizarre thing to say.

          I already know the long-term outcome.

          • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 7:50 pm #

            Heh. C’mon, Jarek, pull her other pigtail!

            She’s cute, but she just sticks her tongue out when I do it.

          • Jarek December 18, 2022 at 1:05 pm #

            When I pull her braid she actually talks – shit. The left braid pull gets political/social nonsense. The right get personal insults.

          • Paddys Lament December 18, 2022 at 2:33 pm #

            The Jarek vs. Mary stuff is the CFN version of the hilarious ‘Saturday Night Live’ spoof called ‘Point/Counterpoint, in which Dan Akroyd and Jane Curtin both start out with a highbrow argument which devolves into name calling and mudslinging.

            P.S. The SNL skit was based on the old William F. Buckley, Jr. vs. Gore Vidal debates, in which the intellectual heavyweights of their day locked horns on a topic but allowed their mutual enmity to get the better of them.

          • Q. Shtik December 18, 2022 at 10:37 pm #

            in which Dan Akroyd and Jane Curtin both start out with a highbrow argument which devolves into name calling and mudslinging. – Paddy’s Lament

            ==========

            HA ha, yeah, my favorite was when Akroyd began “Jane you ignorant slut”

          • Paddys Lament December 18, 2022 at 11:16 pm #

            Right on Q! That was my favorite, too.

      • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 4:53 pm #

        Sorry, but most people are beyond reach. They have to come to reality in the way that most people do: through hard reality.

        • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 12:48 pm #

          some are gunna need a shot drop with hard stop.

      • ThorsHammer December 16, 2022 at 7:39 pm #

        Paula
        Little birds Tweet to mark the boundaries of their territories and attract mates. There sounds may be pleasing to out ears, but they serve the same function as a dog pissing on a light post.

        Likewise humans Tweet because they can’t maintain a thought beyond 140 characters. And the content of their thoughts are far more limited than a stream of dog piss.

        • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 7:53 pm #

          Bah, humbug

          It’s the witty, wicked chatter of a lively party.

        • Anthea December 17, 2022 at 12:38 pm #

          Dogs seem to gather a wealth of information from sniffing the urine deposited by other dogs. They act like they are reading a novel with an intricate plot. They also enjoy sniffing at humans’ clothing, especially if the humans have pets. And I suppose they must get something out of sniffing human crotches as well.

          A dog can sniff a stranger’s hand and tell if he is afraid, and probably learn quite bit about the state of his health and vigor, the level of his confidence, his present hormonal dispositions, whether he is fond of dogs, and whether he recently ate a taco or petted another animal. The dog could probably tell you a lot about the animal whose meat was in the taco, and the state of mind of the fast-food worker who made the taco.

          • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 12:50 pm #

            great comment Anthea, and since seven or eight of mine are tied up when we go out, I can also confirm that they won’t be rushed when they need to sniff a piss.

          • ThorsHammer December 17, 2022 at 10:04 pm #

            Exactly! My intent was to contrast the information contained on a dog pissing pole with the vacuous content of human tweets.

      • mrs_saj December 18, 2022 at 10:26 am #

        Paula, You are intellectually curious, which means, in part, that facts matter to you. You also have the ability and willingness to connect the dots. I can’t say that about everyone.

        The important part is being able to tell the difference when you are talking to someone. Are they braindead or are they a living, breathing, thinking individual?

        • Paula D December 18, 2022 at 2:01 pm #

          Good point, mrs saj. I always assume people are smarter than they sometimes are.
          Remember that illiterate people can’t even be online, so that is a weeding out factor.
          But then there are the bots. Doh!

    • BMW December 16, 2022 at 11:26 am #

      GOP Motto: “Never pass up an opportunity to pass up an opportunity”.

      • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 11:40 am #

        Oh, yeah!

      • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 2:34 pm #

        It fits.

      • ThorsHammer December 16, 2022 at 7:44 pm #

        BMW

        Didn’t you confuse you quote? Wasn’t that Obama who said regarding our current President, “Joe never passes up an opportunity to fuck up a good opportunity.”?

    • Woodchuck December 16, 2022 at 12:16 pm #

      About vaccine warriors. These are the people who traded their former religious fundamentalism and Bible worship for doctor and school worship. “Healthcare” and “education” are the new religion. Whatever the medical priests or the profesors say is their new gospel.

      • Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 1:00 pm #

        That is true.

      • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 1:33 pm #

        Atheism is also a religion. As is being anti-Vax. This site is a Temple of that Cult. We are the Priests and Priestesses.

        • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 4:54 pm #

          I think most people don’t have the energy to be atheists. They exist in a comfy cocoon of apathy and hedonism.

    • Lyndy33 December 16, 2022 at 12:44 pm #

      Studies agree with their financier or they wouldn’t be published. So ‘studies’ are just another tool in the propaganda toolbox.

    • happiface December 16, 2022 at 1:50 pm #

      it is like taking on the flat earthers–their argument is so insane it is not worth the fight–they are truly nuts,stupid—deep deep mental issues, that are not curable –the greater fool debating with a fool–i just laugh

      • Night Owl December 16, 2022 at 3:24 pm #

        It is worth it, if only to give them stress.

        Remember, these people were ready to put you in a cattle car not long ago. We even have a few around these parts.

        • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 4:56 pm #

          I think you’re confusing two targets here, N.O. There’s no point in trying to convince the average normie; there’s EVERY point in making sure the ones who turned into Vax Nazies face punishment and ridicule.

          • Night Owl December 16, 2022 at 6:46 pm #

            I never spoke of convicing. I spoke of ridicule.

            I have no interest in convincing anyone at this point. Darwin takes care of that stuff.

          • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 7:58 pm #

            That’s the bloody spirit, lads!

            I will drink their blood from the skulls of mine enemies

            I will absorb their life energies

          • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 8:01 pm #

            Oops, sorry, credit to the meme:

            When Ralphie got his BB gun on Christmas, he knew he would drink from the skulls of his enemies

          • Night Owl December 17, 2022 at 3:53 am #

            Alz — one of the greatest movies of all time.

      • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 12:56 pm #

        I know that’s a psych-op, could tell right away when it started up.
        I first noticed it in 2017 and one of the things I first noticed were the production values on those insane videos. Serious money was behind making the idea spread.
        All so the uncle you had almost convinced to reconsider vaxxes or 911 could just write you off for good when you told him about your new biggest secret.
        I have zero doubt about it.
        And of course, as I go out and walk under the circling skies for a couple of hours every night i have no doubt we live on a spinning ball.
        I never did have,

    • niner December 16, 2022 at 2:20 pm #

      good for you, Spangaroo.

      while i would never claim i know Mr. Kunstler’s motives, i notice there is a strong inference to be drawn from his essay today, that we, who are practiced internet skirmishers, should take ourselves over to Twitter and start jousting and wrestling and boxing with the vaxxers.

      i can’t go, my blood pressure is already too high.

      but please go over there and start knocking heads.

      • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 2:37 pm #

        I never bothered with Twitter before the Musk acquisition. But I do have an account now and I use it occasionally to torture the previously invulnerable and protected Snowflakes who used to own the joint.

        I’m not really trying to win any arguments with this activity or save the world. I am simply deriving some well deserved satisfaction from finally having the opportunity to torture a few of these jerks. Lord only knows that they have been torturing the rest of us for DECADES.

        A little payback is cathartic.

        • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 1:00 pm #

          yes, I am also taking it in the spirit of an unlifting activity.

          On another thread one commenter congratulated me on my new account, supposedly snidely.
          I responded that I left twitter and all the social media on jan6 (yes that jan6) and that my life immediately got better.

          He ceded the point and I think I made an ally.
          not sure yet as I don’t check twitter except for being there.

          • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 1:00 pm #

            sorry, uplifting*

      • niner December 18, 2022 at 3:37 pm #

        hey, hey, i’ve been banned on twitter since 2017,
        but i appealed this week — mentioning musk and the new attitude, and guess what:

        From: Twitter Support
        Date: Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 1:40 PM
        Subject: We’ve unsuspended your account xxx [ref:xxx:ref]
        To: me

        Twitter

        Hello,

        We’re writing to let you know that we’ve unsuspended your account. Should you run into any trouble logging back in, try requesting a password reset email.

        Please note, it may take 24-48 hours for your follower and following numbers to return to normal.

        If you need to get in touch with us again, please file a report through your Twitter app or our forms page, as this account isn’t monitored for replies.

        Thanks,

        Twitter
        ref: xxx :ref
        Help | Privacy
        Twitter, Inc. 1355 Market Street, Suite 900 San Francisco, CA 94103

        • niner December 18, 2022 at 3:40 pm #

          in celebration of which i have this on replay

          httxx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUAL1RBIBtI

          ——–

          The Pointer Sisters Neutron Dance (Beverly Hills Cop scene) 1984
          Ilkay Eris

          • spaingaroo December 19, 2022 at 12:01 pm #

            I love that scene

    • ThorsHammer December 16, 2022 at 10:07 pm #

      Spainagogo

      Before you waste your time again trying to debate someone infected with mind parasites keep these facts in mind:

      Approximately 40% of USA are victims of a form of mental derangement so severe that there is little hope they ever can be cured. (call them Vaxheads, Karens, Ukonazi Lovers, Mall piggies, War Lovers, Patriots or whatever you wish, but they are not the only Americans in this hemisphere) Another 20% know the system is rigged, but they could give a shit. They are too busy looking for a way to game it for their benefit, send the kids to Yale or keep the spouse from finding about the mistress. boy toy, or surgically manufactured Woke fantasy in the basement, We can only hope that the Pfizer boosters will do their job and prevent them from procreating.

      Your time would be better spent supporting the revival of the home grown sinsemilia industry of Mendocino or Cave Junction.

      • niner December 16, 2022 at 11:32 pm #

        Thor,

        That’s a great line:

        “We can only hope that the Pfizer boosters will do their job and prevent them from procreating.”

        and that’s how the meek shall inherit the earth.

      • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 1:06 pm #

        I have my very own sinsemilla ‘industry’ here in my place in the sun all the better to be stoned morning to night as has been my modus operandi for the last thirty five years or so.
        I combine it with the main industry in the area, to make marijolive oil, extra virgin when it goes in anyway. Comes out greatly enhanced, if now not so virgin
        always have plenty for any visitors who want to stop by, have to like dogs though, and cats too
        (I mean I literally have too much, by a factor of ten or so)
        each year puts more on my stockpile.

        • Paula D December 17, 2022 at 9:13 pm #

          Gives a new meaning to the term “prepping”.

          • spaingaroo December 19, 2022 at 12:08 pm #

            ready to go

  8. malthuss December 16, 2022 at 10:11 am #

    USA Government

    Adeyemo runs the Treasury.
    That’s just one of many negroes and other BIPOCs and weirdos like tranny General Rachel Levine and the queer bdsm dog-play freak that are in “our”(?) government and other institutions now.

    Harvard University just appointed a 2 fer black female president and as I recall the Sec. of Defense is a negro as are some of the top army and air force generals.
    Biden always appoints negroes and BIPOCs over hetero White males whenever he can.

    The Dept. of Education established by Carter is a worse than useless jobs program for almost 5000 blacks.

    Obama Bidette want to “fundamentally transform” the USSA into the USS of New South Africa by turning it over to blacks just like ‘they’ pressured and manipulated SA to do so.

    • Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 10:33 am #

      They aren’t even turning it over to American blacks, affirmative action slots have been going to black people who are foreign-born more and more.

      Meanwhile white and black Americans are kept divided by this favoritism of blacks, and it isn’t even what people think i is anymore.

      Speaking of the major racket that is Higher Ed, I found a tweet that expresses a lot of what I have been trying to say, but more succinctly.

      Our enemies would like nothing better than to destroy our system, which was at one time vastly superior to anything he rest of the world had to offer.

      People seem to believe they are somehow thwarting our opponents by having no one at all studying art, literature, music, history, etc.

      When I try to make this point people will still argue that financial prospects are better for a plumber.

      The purpose of higher education wasn’t originally about money.

      BTW that bit about the plumbers and money doesn’t really hold up.

      A couple of reasons are one, that when everyone flocks to a trade it tends to drive wages down.

      Two, “they” don’t care if plumbers do a good job, they care that they work cheap.

      Another reason I just thought of is that people just don’t have the money to pay skiled tradesmen anymore.

      If it costs thousands of dollars to fix your crumbling front steps and sidewalk, are you going to hire Guatemalans to do the work cheaper, or just not fix your steps at all because you had to buy groceries?

      Anyway here is the tweet:

      https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1603147275106013185?s=20&t=jMi2s32dj2z898bSYsUQvQ

      • thirdcoastlegend December 16, 2022 at 11:26 am #

        Beryl, I think they are turning AA slots over to foreign-born blacks because they realize that many of the capable American-born blacks really do appreciate, or even cherish the historic America that is slipping away.

        The controllers realize competent foreigners have no such historical pangs, they’re just here for the check.

        Like the non-existent sputhern border, this trend fits in with the overall goal of breaking down and eventually destroying the US to male way for global corporate governance.

        This also fits in with why I’ve seen so many African, Middle Eastern, and Indian professionals popping up in my corner of the world.

        • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 1:38 pm #

          Right. Watch the video of them taking down the last Confederate monument in Richmond and moving the grave as well to a public cemetery. Leftists were hooting. The monument will be moved to a Black Museum. The grave will probably be desecrated. The Black guy said, I’m going to rub my ass with the femur bone.

          • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 2:47 pm #

            Clearly the Army of Northern Virginia should have lingered a bit longer in Richmond to ensure that the fires set in April of 1865 fully leveled the place to the ground. Then salt should have been sown to prevent the freed slaves from hanging around there.

            What has happened to Richmond in the past 10 years is what happens when you are “replaced” by people who hate you – your culture – your history – everything you stand for. If you let them take over the land, the cities, the countries you formerly inhabited and controlled, then guess what???? You are dispossessed of those places forever and they will do with them what they please.

            Just ask any American Indian. They’ll explain the consequences in greater detail.

            Humans are tribal creatures. Always have been. Always will be. You either defend your tribe and its territory or another will displace you and run you off. It’s that simple.

            However, I do feel sorry for the people of Virginia. Most of the state is based. It’s just the carpetbaggers in the northernmost counties hugging the beltway conspiring with the degenerate ghetto negroes in Richmond who have made the wrecking balls swing in the Old Dominion.

            When this whole rotten system finally collapses I do hope some of the good old boys in that State will impose a “reckoning” on those people for what they have done. They should all be tarred and feathered – old school style – and rode out of the state riding on wooden rails.

      • Jimpa December 16, 2022 at 11:41 am #

        Speaking of higher Ed, Naomi Wolf’s article about her recent visit to Yale is highly recommended

        • Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 12:01 pm #

          I feel sorry for Naomi. She’s a very emotional woman, which is a good thing, but that means these kinds of things really get to her.

        • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 1:09 pm #

          is that on substack?

          • niner December 17, 2022 at 7:27 pm #

            here you go,

            httxx://www.lewrockwell.com/?d=2022-12-15

            and rockwell faithfully links to the latest kunstler essay.

            i subscribe to his aggregator newsletter.

    • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 10:35 am #

      Dammit, they are only 13% of our population!

    • abbybwood December 16, 2022 at 11:50 am #

      Blacks are turning up the heat regarding the California reparations legislation. Yesterday a Black man told the key committee, “$225k/Black person isn’t enough. It has to be the average price of a house here…$800k.” He said, “If not, the violence will begin.”

      Now THAT is the way to negotiate! Threats of violence!

      • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 1:41 pm #

        That’s because they “cherish the historic America that’s slipping away” as the poster says above.

        Whites are the goose that lays the golden egg. They’d cherish us if they were smart. Not for ourselves but for what we provide. But they’re not smart.

      • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 2:50 pm #

        Oh my! The “V-Word!”

        I thought Democrats were aghast at all forms of “violence.”

        Are these not the same people who admonish everyone that “silence is violence?”

        Why say that sort of stupid shit unless you truly think violence is a “bad thing” that should always be opposed and suppressed.

        Of course, the only way to suppress violence…..is with GREATER violence.

        So, who says “violence never settled anything?” What a moron that dude was. Ask Hitler.

      • MaryQueen December 16, 2022 at 4:51 pm #

        Threats of violence by POC seems to work well for them in CA.

  9. Dr. Coyote December 16, 2022 at 10:11 am #

    I find the phrase “When all else fails, they take you to war” being uses significantly more often these days. These sociopaths have backed themselves into a corner. No way out. They’re going to try and take us down with them.

    • Dr. Coyote December 16, 2022 at 10:14 am #

      “used” not “uses”. Grrr. Damn auto-correct.

      • Not_GeorgeT December 16, 2022 at 12:08 pm #

        The auto-correct, which usually isn’t… I can be an obsessive proof-reader, but learned to ignore it. I think enough see it as a defect, thus lowering it to nuisance level when reading.

        • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 2:52 pm #

          I detest the auto-correct. It butchers my stuff every time I want to post something. I am a touch typist and type pretty rapidly with reasonable accuracy. But the damnable spell-checker goes in and changes words the second the hit the space key as you race on through the sentence you are typing. I try to go back and do a quick proofread, but every editor can tell you that no one can truly proofread their own stuff. You inevitably miss something.

          No solution, really, but to slow down and turn the dang thing off.

          • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 2:54 pm #

            It just did it again. Maddening….sometimes the substitutions aren’t even close to being anything like the original word that was typed. I just don’t get it.

            Maybe the WordPress Wokesters are running an algorithm designed to screw with our postings to subtly drive us all MAD. Lol….but I’m kinda serious about that too….

      • Q. Shtik December 16, 2022 at 5:39 pm #

        most couldn’t critically think their way out of a paper bag. – NO

        ===========

        The expression as I have always heard it is “a wet paper bag”

      • Q. Shtik December 16, 2022 at 5:46 pm #

        “used” not “uses”. Grrr. Damn auto-correct. – Dr. Coyote

        ============

        I don’t think this was an auto-correct issue. Since the letters s and d are next to one another I think this was a genuine “typo.” A finger on your left hand touched the wrong key.

        When I type a comment I proofread it two or three times before I click Submit.

    • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 10:18 am #

      Yep. The whole Covid 19 scam will seem like small beer compared with what is happening on the geo-political front. There are, however, some sane voices in the Pentagon trying to reign in the neocon maniacs in the NSC.

      • Paddys Lament December 16, 2022 at 1:07 pm #

        I hope you’re right. Otherwise, we’ll be cueing up ‘Dr. Strangelove.’

      • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 1:43 pm #

        Patriot missile systems going to Ukraine. Putin is a pussy who won’t do anything even if we Kiev (verb) Moscow.

        • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 4:59 pm #

          The Patriots are pretty useless. This is just a PR gesture. Even Stoltenberg at Nato HQ is giving out hints that Ukraine is done. Putin is playing it perfectly.

        • ThorsHammer December 17, 2022 at 12:30 pm #

          Jarek
          LOL

          Patriot missiles are the perfect weapon if you want to pretend to fight a war like Putin and Trump did in Syria.

          Here is how that deal went down.

          When Trump took office he inherited several failed attempts by Obama to fabricate poison gas attacks within Syria as an excuse to send the American Air Force in to bomb Syria into submission and ram a bayonet up the ass of Assad. As soon as he got settled in the Big Chair, Trump rang up Putin on his personal burner phone. (Even back then he knew that the FBI/CIA had all the phones in the White House tapped)

          It took Putin and Trump about 45 minutes to come up with a win–win deal that greatly benefited both. Trump needed a “Win” to stall all the War Hawks circling around Washington. Putin needed a “Win” showing that he stood shoulder to shoulder with one of his few client states in the Middle East.
          Putin suggested that they remove all the remaining usable planes from an old airfield where they were storing junk planes for spare parts, and then Trump could bomb away. As part of the deal, the US could steal all of the oil in the Kurdish regions of Syria and keep their bases there as long as they kept the Kurds pacified. Russia could keep their air superiority over most of the country and neither party would engage with the other.

          An unanticipated “win” for Russia was that they got to use the +- 20 Patriot missiles that were fired during the staged conflict as target practice. Since only one Patriot got through they were pleased to learn that even their early generation air defense systems were more than a match for the much ballyhooed Patriots.

          Now that is what I call a good war.

          • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 1:16 pm #

            now that’s what I call a good comment

      • Anthea December 17, 2022 at 1:19 pm #

        “Rein,” not “reign.”

    • Paula D December 16, 2022 at 10:47 am #

      I agree. They are taking us to war.

      There can be no other explanation for the reckless provocations they are doing, in Ukraine, in Syria, in Serbia and in Russia itself.

      • Paula D December 16, 2022 at 10:47 am #

        Oh, and in Taiwan, of course, as well as Mongolia.

      • thirdcoastlegend December 16, 2022 at 11:32 am #

        So far, the Russians are too smart and patient to take the bait.

        The Russians seem content to, “kettle,” Bakhmut and grind up whatever mercs and wunderwaffe NATO tosses into the fray with massed artillery fire.

        This strategy has proven quite effective at emptying Western arsenals.

        Western pols are making a lot of big talk about ramping arms production without realizing they don’t have the industrial base or human capital to do so.

        I mean, most Western youth want to be rich TikTok stars or YouTube influencers. You’re not going to get these people to build 155mm artillery shells on a weekend graveyard shift for minimum wage.

        • stelmosfire December 16, 2022 at 11:47 am #

          “You’re not going to get these people to build 155mm artillery shells on a weekend graveyard shift for minimum wage.”

          Would a former banana picker from Guatemala do the job for 15 bucks an hour? I would have to think so.

          • thirdcoastlegend December 16, 2022 at 12:33 pm #

            Sure, but I have to wonder about the level of skill required to assemble the shells, some of which are fairly complex.

            That is going to require a certain level of fine motor skill and ability to focus.

          • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 1:44 pm #

            Your racism is showing, third. All liberals have it……

        • Night Owl December 16, 2022 at 3:09 pm #

          What Wunderwaffen have they used? Seems they have done virtally nothing but send Ukranians into a meat grinder.

        • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 5:01 pm #

          Correct. And despite all the usual lying, the neocons know that the Ukies are getting destroyed in Bakhmut. The images of the town remind me of WW1: thousands of shell holes and decimated buildings.

        • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 8:51 pm #

          Some blacks in DC told me the smart bombs we used in Iraq were assembled by their relatives in Louisiana…in prison, at prison wages.

          24 cents per hour, so you can buy your necessities- shampoo, soap, toothpaste- at the commissary.

          • ThorsHammer December 17, 2022 at 1:04 pm #

            I knew there was a reason why we hold a million people in prison— a % unmatched by any other industrialized country. Countries like Vietnam (that we tried to bomb back into the Stone Age a generation ago) are too busy building things like high speed rail systems to bother with trying to compete at the wage that the US prison system can offer.

          • Paula D December 17, 2022 at 9:14 pm #

            Yep, ThorsHammer and Kamala Harris was busted refusing to let out a convict proved to be innocent because she said they needed the labor.

      • Jimpa December 16, 2022 at 11:47 am #

        Yes, Russia’s strategy in the Ukraine war seems to be to just wait it out. No big offensive, is what I’m hearing. I wonder if that will work out for the Ruuskis. Some say it just invites the US to escalate.

        • Woodchuck December 16, 2022 at 12:37 pm #

          Maybe Russia has figured out that if they wait just a bit longer, Europe and the USA will soon collapse from within anyhow and won’t have the resources or the will to continue fighting.

        • Paula D December 16, 2022 at 2:56 pm #

          There is a lot of talk about General Winter helping the Russians in Ukraine.
          What about in Germany? The Germans put sanctions on Russian gas and when they started to waver, the US blew up their pipelines, dooming them to a cold and unemployed winter.

          The media, of course, blames it all on Putin, but apparently Germans are not that stupid. I saw a poll which said that a majority of them understand that sanctioning a country and then blaming that country for the ensuing consequences, is a bullshit narrative.
          I am actually gobsmacked that anyone would believe otherwise, but it turns out that some people are stupider than I ever could have imagined.

          Anyway, I agree with Woodchuck that there are other forces at work on this planet than just the SMO.

        • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 5:04 pm #

          I think the Russians have to go on the offensive to cut off the Western supplies that are the only thing keeping the Ukrainians fighting. That means sealing off the Polish border. Also, despite the successful attrition tactics, an offensive is the only way that they can definitively destroy the Ukie army – a key goal of the SMO. My impression is that the Russians have had enough and are running out of patience.

        • ThorsHammer December 17, 2022 at 1:45 pm #

          Jimpa

          Why should Russia mount a major land offensive when they are winning against their real enemy—NATOUSA? The powerhouse of the EU—Germany—may well emerge from the winter as a second world industrial power with its flagship industries frantically looking for places like Mexico and Vietnam to move their operations to and former Mercedes engineers pushing hand mowers to make hay for the cows that live in the basement.

          The Ukraine is such a financial black hole that the NATOUSA proxy war is fully capable of bankrupting Wokeistan USA all by itself if it continues down the present path for another two years. (Helped along by another manufactured pandemic and lock-down paralysis.)

          The German Army (such as it was) has been stripped of weapons and personnel to the point where its entire forces barely equal the current monthly losses of the Ukrainian Army. It is totally incapable of fighting a land war against Russia as are the other borderland nations—even Poland. Or the US Army, with a supply chain stretching half way around the world and a fighting force lining up to have their balls cut off and be fitted for a dress.

          • ThorsHammer December 17, 2022 at 2:00 pm #

            The traditional Bavarian farmhouse is a work of genius. The lower floor houses the cows, who’s body heat helps warm the upper floors where the people live. The second floor has a ramp from the hay meadows which helps bringing it inside for the winter and lets you drop it down into the mangers. And best of all, the beds have wonderful goose down comforters big enough for three or four people so you don’t even need heat on the coldest of days.

          • Paula D December 17, 2022 at 9:17 pm #

            Indeed, why do people insist that Russia interrupt its enemies while they are making mistakes?

            Let them continue.

      • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 2:56 pm #

        It’s like the bully who keeps poking you in the chest – harder – then harder still – until you just can’t take it anymore and you punch the S.O.B.

        • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 5:05 pm #

          Yep. And the bully seems to insult a new victim (country) every day. Even the Saudi’s are telling them to go pound sand.

        • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 8:55 pm #

          Kick the dog until it bites,
          then shoot it.

  10. Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 10:12 am #

    I am going to attempt to post a cartoon tutorial on what free speech is and isn’t.

    There still seems to be a lot of confusion.

    I would add to this that the government is also not allowed to censor your speech like they did when they ordered certain individuals banned from Twitter. Not only unconstitutional, but violates existing law.

    The president’s spokeswoman has already admitted to doing this, btw.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkD8RSKWAAIoxd7?format=png&name=medium

    • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 10:21 am #

      I agree with this, for the most part, but it must be conceded that some of the “blowback” listed – when led by the likes of Antifa – can descend beyond “free debate” into unlawful violence, coercion, and intimidation that does not show RESPECT for the right of free speech.

      We need to get back to the old standard of “I thoroughly and completely disagree with everything you are saying BUT, I will defend to the DEATH your RIGHT to SAY IT.”

      I don’t see much of that laudable ethic, (even if it was rarely, if ever, literally followed), being upheld by the definition your posted cartoon portrays.

      We should aspire to a higher standard than “You can say what you want, but don’t complain if we show up at your house to beat the crap out of you – key your car – terrify your wife and kids – and maybe burn your house to the ground.”

      Even “assholes” should be protected from the mob by the rule of law.

      • spaingaroo December 16, 2022 at 10:29 am #

        absolutely agree Wizard. Well stated. I find that cartoon beyond the pale, even though I was a fan before.

        • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 10:33 am #

          Spaingaroo – It’s one of those memes that, on first inspection, seems to pass the Libertarian smell test of live and let live, but 2020 should have been instructive enough to the population to realize that this standard only empowers bullies leading mobs.

      • Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 10:38 am #

        I see yor point, Wizard, but the mob showing up at your house to deal with pretty much anything you did that they decided they don’t like, is already a crime.

        At least it used to be.

        I think the cartoon shows that the First Amendment applies to what the government may or may not do.

        I see people whining about free speech and censorship when the are told they can’t use the F word in their comments on some individual’s blog.

        • Paula D December 16, 2022 at 10:59 am #

          They are never prosecuted though, under this regime.

          The people themselves need to internalize the importance of free speech. We can’t leave it up to the authorities.

          I agree with wizard, we have to go back to the “I will defend your right to say it, even if I disagree” belief that used to be part of every American’s creed, but has been under attack for decades by our ruling overlords and their acolytes.

          • Islander December 16, 2022 at 1:51 pm #

            Re “the “I will defend your right to say it, even if I disagree” belief that used to be part of every American’s creed,”

            It should have been, but wasn’t. When it was founded the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) brought this notion center forward: ” founded in 1920 “to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to every person in this country by the Constitution and laws of the United States”.”

            It was a huge backward step when the ACLU, with Trump’s election, joined the “resistance” and became partisan. I canceled my membership.

          • Paula D December 16, 2022 at 3:02 pm #

            Yes, it has been a struggle, even from the beginning.

            But there have always been people who fought back and our rights have been taken away and then grabbed back before.

            I feel solidarity with my ancestors who fought for our rights, even if I’m not actually descended from people like Mark Twain and William Brennan.

            I did, however, have a grandfather who was killed in a crowded dancehall when some teenaged boys threw a smokebomb into it and panicked the dancers, so I have always known that the line “You can’t yell Fire in a crowded theater” was a bullshit lie.
            They did worse and they went unpunished.

            But the Woke Totalitarians are even worse than the “No yelling Fire” people.
            They call misgendering (for instance) Hate Speech and think it’s OK to attack and ban and fire and assault you for it.

          • Jarek December 18, 2022 at 12:00 am #

            Islander has tried to get me kicked off this sit

        • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 3:02 pm #

          Well, I sort of always liked the standard that says that the only proper remedy to speech you do not like is more speech by way of rebuttal.

          This business of “cancelling” people really is a form of passive-aggressive terrorism and it is well-suited to the pussfied P.O.S. wussies who practice it. When you act to destroy a person’s ability to house, feed, clothe, and medicate themselves and their families simply because you do not like their speech, that goes too far and it will have a chilling effect on free political discourse.

          Part of the hard work of running a free republic is that the citizens must develop thick skins and they must subscribe to the essential truth that acts of censorship undermine the speech rights of everyone.

      • Paula D December 16, 2022 at 10:55 am #

        Agree, wizard.

        That “you have the right of free speech but you have to expect consequences” is used by antifa all the time.

        So Andy Ngo has the right of free speech but he has to expect being attacked and given a brain hemorrhage and being forced to move out of the country if he says things the establishment goons don’t like.

        Cause……consequences.

        Yeah…..no.

        • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 3:04 pm #

          Precisely. This evil sophistry must be opposed vigorously.

      • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 1:59 pm #

        Speech is violence (yours) and their violence is just speech.

        An inversion of reality. They’re not going away any time soon. Too valuable. The Nazis fought antifa for thirteen years. After some 25,000 caualties and more than 300 death, they defeated them.

        • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 5:07 pm #

          And everyone lived happily ever after…

          • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 1:27 pm #

            no, then the real bullies came in, and fucked it for all of us.
            In the words of General Patton “we fought the wrong enemy”

      • Alzaebo December 17, 2022 at 6:28 am #

        Stalking with hostile intent is not political opinion. It’s malicious intent.

        • Jarek December 17, 2022 at 1:39 pm #

          And he picked the name of an Anglo-Saxon hero to boot. It’s like the words on the dollar: In God We Trust.

          Mockery.

    • Rowdypiglet December 16, 2022 at 10:39 am #

      Worth doing, Beryl. There was a time not long ago when I thought I could readily answer the question as to what free speech was. Lately I’m not so sure and would welcome discussion.

      • Paula D December 16, 2022 at 11:13 am #

        This blog is a good example of free speech, imo.

        We have all kinds of people advocating all kinds of different opinions. There are those who fling shit with their opinions, and some who only fling shit, but most people seem to remain civil most of the time.

        And it doesn’t actually harm anyone when the shit-slingers do their thing. It’s just annoying.
        That’s a good lesson to learn, the old ”sticks and stones can break my bones, but names will never hurt me” line.

        • Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 11:23 am #

          It is free speech, but i is not protected under the First Amendment, unless the government is trying to shut it down or censor it.

          • Paula D December 16, 2022 at 11:42 am #

            Because the blog owner has internalized the ethics of free speech and debate.
            That is my point, that we all need to get back to that ethic in order to actually have free speech.

            We can’t rely on the ruling class to provide it.

      • Alzaebo December 17, 2022 at 7:15 am #

        Sigh. We are so far from actual law.

        Law is intended for but one purpose: redress of damages.

        For everything else, there is grey law: local traditions to be respected.

    • MaryQueen December 16, 2022 at 4:43 pm #

      That’s awful.

    • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 9:04 pm #

      Private company say whaaat…?

      If a corporation has the right to violate the First Amendment, then can I exclude anybody I want from coming into my establishment?

      The ‘public access laws’ violate freedom of association.

      The Civil Rights movement was a Communist overthrow of Constitutional law and principle.

      Of the Constitutional compact, consent of the governed. Eisenhower’s troops marched native civilians at bayonet point.

      Disparate impact, affirmative action, public access, etc. etc.

      • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 9:08 pm #

        That’s why we allied with the Communists- FDR was already their puppet, the first Socialist dictator.

        Thus he is revered today.
        Remember? His Agency heads were even titled ‘dictators’.

  11. steppingup December 16, 2022 at 10:13 am #

    Collapsing Empire, Fourth Turning, Fiat Currency collapse, trickle down fraud, same old shit, different day….

  12. Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 10:15 am #

    As usual, Gov. DeSantis is ahead of the curve – taking action while others either jabber endlessly while doing nothing – or watching carefully to see if DeSantis steps on any lethal landmines while walking “point” for the whole GOP.

    If he survives, (and I think that he will), a few other brave souls may follow. One hopes that at least Abbott and Noem would, anyway. Having state attorney generals lead the charge to prosecute the culprits in the vast COVID scam while being fed evidence by Musk may prove to be one of the greatest political crusades against deeply entrenched government and corporate corruption in world history IF…..and this is a big “if” – the effort gains momentum and can be sustained.

    Of course, with the GOP’s track record, I give this about a 5% chance of success, and only because DeSantis is showing moral courage by taking concrete action to get the ball rolling.

    • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 10:19 am #

      I really hope that DeSantis stays in Florida. No one individual can drain the Swamp in DC. It’s a lost battle. Better to build strong conservative states for the inevitable collapse coming soon.

      • BackRowHeckler December 16, 2022 at 10:32 am #

        Good point HW. But if not DeSantis, who?

        • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 10:38 am #

          BRH: No-one. Let the Left have DC and start nullifying their actions at state level. Naive, I know, but DC is too far gone to redeem.

          • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 10:44 am #

            Hmmm

            Secession? State control?

            Who gets the football?

          • thirdcoastlegend December 16, 2022 at 11:35 am #

            JAZ-

            Montana, Wyoming, and the Dakotas alone contain the third largest nuclear force on Earth.

            The key would be disabling any remote access and installing control at the state level.

          • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 3:05 pm #

            And Texas has Pantex up in the panhandle where all of the countries warheads are made.

          • Alzaebo December 16, 2022 at 9:17 pm #

            Ohh, good question, good answers.

            I’m saving those. Rogue barons- successful revolutions only occur when a branch of the elite breaks away.

            DC must be dismantled and scattered, its physical concentration alone leads it to inevitably forming into a separate State through inbreeding.

            A foreign country within the nation, with its own codes, mores, dialect, economy, and mindset.

        • ThorsHammer December 17, 2022 at 11:21 pm #

          BackRow

          If not DeSantis, why not Bigfoot? He is of a stature to serve as a perfect God totem. .

          I’ve long advocated that Cascadia secede from the Empire of Lies and form the Nation that geography intended it to be. But it has been conquered from within by the Covid Armies, and some of it’s cities are no longer recognizable as part of the Oregon Territories. The only solution is to round up all the mass delusional brain dead and goose step them south to the California border where they can fornicate with children and trans gender chimeras at will. Then by nationalizing the Mutually Assured Destruction Trildent nuclear submarine force we can prevent the Empire from recovering it’s ill gotten territories originally stolen from the Tribes. We would be one of the few energy self sufficient nations on the Planet — a useful asset for the future.

      • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 10:38 am #

        I see some logic in this position. Federalism is and the divided sovereign powers between the states and the federal government is proving to be the one nut that the Wokesters haven’t quite figured out how to totally subvert….yet.

        So, before their brain trust comes up with a scheme it would be highly recommended that GOP governors and AG’s in EVERY STATE should be launching precisely the same kind of effort DeSantis is in Florida.

        But how many will do it? How many. We control at least half the states – maybe a tad more than half in these positions – but I will tell you now that I will be flabbergasted and pleasantly surprised if even 5 to 10 states follow the DeSantis play.

        There are simply too many bona fide pussies in power with an “R” for party affiliation after their name. Ladies I’m sorry to have to be vulgar about it – but sometimes nothing short of vulgarity will properly convey a powerful truth.

        Weak men lead to hard times. That is why we are where we are right now.

        • Woodchuck December 16, 2022 at 12:42 pm #

          Yup! Weak men raised by feminist women and school teachers!

        • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 2:02 pm #

          I took the fire here so Woody could say such things. That’s how it works.

          • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 5:08 pm #

            Brave old you!

          • Anthea December 17, 2022 at 1:33 pm #

            @ Hereward the Woke:

            Now, now, Hereward. Consider the risks Jarek has taken on your behalf. There have been times when some here have called him names or told him he was full of shit. His suffering and loss of blood was appalling. I had to apply a cotton ball to my computer screen a couple of times.

          • Jarek December 17, 2022 at 1:45 pm #

            There are different forms of courage, all of them good.

            Some Emergency Rescue Workers – very brave men – could not face another man in a fight. And those who could do that, might not be able to have the inner freedom – or courage – to think clearly.

            Yes, I fight mostly with my mind – is that without value? It’s where freedom starts, nowhere else. And how would the Enemy treat me? Unto death. Communism and Islam are very clear about what to do with people who fight with their minds.

            Thank you for the cotton balls, Anthea. No doubt you save my blood for your black magic.

      • Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 10:40 am #

        He can only stay in Florida just so long. Therein lies the problem with term limits.

        • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 2:04 pm #

          True. We need a return to Kings. He’s good in Florida. In Washington he would support the war in Ukraine and probably escalate it. He’s the NeoCon’s fair haired boy (golem).

      • Rowdypiglet December 16, 2022 at 10:47 am #

        It would be of great value to build up the states that are already most firmly conservative, which would likely have the effect of moving some of the leftist debris out of those states.

        But there are a number of other states that are decidedly red in all the small towns and rural areas, but blue in their ruinous cities. One of these states is Maine, where Portland (still a small city) is actively trying to destroy the rest of the state. It doesn’t seem impossibly difficult to redeem this and other states with a similar makeup; they’re teetering on the edge and could go either way. Saving them would make a great difference, if we could devise a way . . .

        • Not_GeorgeT December 16, 2022 at 12:37 pm #

          Part of Maine’s difficulty comes from ranked choice voting. Janet Mills sucks as a governor. She’s easily a 3rd stringer who takes the party line. Ranked choice put her in charge of the disaster and she kept to the plan.

          Notice how this same ploy is being attempted, at times with success, in other states. It will be attempted in every state. It’s like an itchy rash which won’t go away.

          • Rowdypiglet December 16, 2022 at 1:11 pm #

            I’ve never discussed this with a single other person who really understood what ranked choice voting was. Most couldn’t give a wrong or confused answer; they simply admitted they had no idea what it was or how it affected the outcome of an election.

            For starters, I think that anything so opaque to most people of ordinary intelligence (or better than ordinary) should be ditched.

            And Janet Mills is the worst kind of bought and paid for bureaucrat.

          • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 2:07 pm #

            Like the new math – which even Mathematicians say baffles them. When confronted, one of the people behind it started talking about Black kids and prejudice.

            In other words, hurt White kids to create equality – Downwards.

          • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 3:07 pm #

            Who came up with this “ranked choice voting” BS? Everywhere it is implemented it seems to lead to chaos and more electoral shenanigans.

            My view is we should apply the KISS principle. Complicated systems are designed to bamboozle the voters.

        • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 2:10 pm #

          One prominent artist declared Portland to be “hideously White”. He was made to apologize , but no matter. It’s what all of the City Fathers and Mothers believed. He faced no censure from them or his peers. Just a public gesture. Meanwhile the Somalis were being poured in…..

      • SW December 16, 2022 at 1:59 pm #

        I agree HW — more good can be done at a local or state level than federal at this point. The military/industrial/academic juggernaut will destroy anyone who attempts to expose or change the system. Florida remained open during covid insanity and grew in strength. It’s also only one of two states with homestead laws for private citizens.

        The US needs some states that are oasis and the only way that can happen is if there’s a strong governor in office.

      • Night Owl December 16, 2022 at 5:37 pm #

        Yep. Been saying it for two years. Parallel society. Perhaps secession.

        I’d come back in a second. Particularly if Germany keeps walking down the techno-soclialist path.

    • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 10:43 am #

      It needs to start by the GOP stopping caving to the Dems at the federal level and initiating change. It takes Elon Musk being supported by conservatives in his quest to destroy the Liberal logjams in the media.

      • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 5:12 pm #

        That’s the whole point, John. It doesn’t need to start with the GOP at all. We have to forget about the GOP in DC and start strengthening Red states as islands of sanity when the dam breaks. The GOP won the House, and yet what have they done so far? Supported the appalling marriage act and just help pass the Dems’ latest pork barrel emergency budget.

        • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 5:42 pm #

          Right, as I said, the GOP needs to STOP kowtowing to the Dems at all. The Deep State is the consolidation of the liberal Dems and the Liberal GOP to further the federal cause against the people. There are genuine conservatives but at the federal level they are drowned out by cut throat RINOs.

          They are the ones that allowed Trump to be taken down.

  13. Ron Anselmo December 16, 2022 at 10:17 am #

    Morning Jim – You’ve exceeded excellence today, if there is such a level. Absolutely awesome.

    Stay on these fuckers, do not let them come up for air on “Covid” – they are all liars, and you continue to piss on their parade and fuck up their game plan.

    Had a family member pass at home yesterday morning after a years-long decline with dementia, and there was time to have family members present from all parts of the US. Turns out there was a little bloom of Covid, with four family members now testing positive.

    The ME will probably test for Covid, which I believe is the current protocol. If the death certificate indicates “Death *by* Covid”, you’ll see me on the front-page news.

    Jim, keep up the great work – told you more than once – you are a true beacon. Keep it up, and you and your girl stay warm up there.

    • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 10:53 am #

      My father in law just passed about three weeks ago. A lifetime of smoking and drinking yet made it to 97.

      The point I want to make is his death certificate was written I believe correctly.

      Cause of death

      COPD from excessive smoking lifetime

      Acute respiratory failure exacerbated by a bout of Covid about three weeks prior.

      His care taker stated he never recovered from the virus attack with his conditioning getting worse during the three weeks.

      The man died from COPD, he had so little lung capacity left, he couldn’t get past the Covid decline.

      • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 10:53 am #

        People do not die from Covid.

        • Night Owl December 16, 2022 at 3:12 pm #

          Particularly when no one can show us what Covid is.

          Tough to say someone died of something that has yet to be shown to exist.

      • Jimpa December 16, 2022 at 11:57 am #

        Drinking and smoking and making it to 97. Must be have been quite a guy. I really enjoy smoking a pipe and alcohol. I think it’s worth the risk, who wants to live to 97 anyway? Not me.

      • ThorsHammer December 17, 2022 at 11:32 pm #

        My condolences.

        If only he had been “Vaccinated” he wouldn’t have died at such a young age.

  14. Paula D December 16, 2022 at 10:25 am #

    And the testimony of those who trustingly allowed themselves to be injected with the GMO product and were harmed is dismissed as “anecdotal”, as if all medical research doesn’t rely on individual reactions.

    We can see what happened to vaccine injured Jimmy Dore and Eric Clapton, as scorned and attacked as those Deplorables who refused to participate in the program at all.

    There are others. .anecdotalsmovie.com/

    • spaingaroo December 16, 2022 at 10:32 am #

      wow, so many of these documentaries. I have seen about five lately.
      It’s a flood already really.
      And it’s only warming up, it seems to me.
      Thanks for the link Paula D I hadn’t heard of this one yet.

      • Paula D December 16, 2022 at 11:05 am #

        It’s a good one for the kind of battle you were in yesterday.

        Only the most dishonest can call someone who trustingly took a product and then was harmed, an ”anti-vaxxer”.

        It’s an easy test to see who is being paid to be a pharma shill, or is maybe just Too Stupid To Live.

        • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 1:40 pm #

          yeah, I left in the thread even as I started watching it, and it didn’t disappoint.
          I was going to leave you the one I watch between died suddenly and anecdotals, but I can’t find it. Sorry

        • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 1:43 pm #

          yes, if I had their switch, they would be turned off for the ‘common good’
          their phrase.

          I make that point too, the anti-vaxxers who took the vax and gave the vax to their families. Those anti-vaxxers?

          • Paula D December 17, 2022 at 9:20 pm #

            Indeed. I really feel for the mother of that injured girl with the feeding tube.
            She was a True Believer. What a wakeup call!

            Although she still genuflects “I believe in vaccines just not this one”.
            I am past that. I’m not even going to get my dogs their rabies shots any more.

    • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 2:16 pm #

      Yup, nothing takes the place of good statistics. Of course as Tucker and Mr Kunstler said, they have no interest in good statistics.

      If you see or hear about a lot of anecdotes, there may well be something there. You infer a cause (hypothesis) and set out to test it. Science! And good record keeping (statistics) is obviously a big part of it.

  15. BackRowHeckler December 16, 2022 at 10:30 am #

    Me thinks Sam Bankman-Fried & Hunter Biden will have to explain themselves come 2023 as well. (Speaking of high level corruption & misconduct) On the other hand, catastrophic international developments on the Eastern Front may render these domestic political concerns as moot and mere trifles.

    • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 10:42 am #

      SBF will get the Epstein treatment or be buried forever in the US penal system, like Ghislaine. As for the Eastern Front, yes, it’s going to be a doozy. The Ukraine is existential for both sides. Russia – and China – will never tolerate a defeat there, and neither will the West. Putin will almost certainly achieve his aims there and probably hive off Odessa too. The only “hope” in stopping this is that the Euro “leaders” start to see some sense and break away from the US neocons. In the US, the only hope is that a few sane soldiers in the military who can actually visualise nuclear armageddon, rid the world of the Nudelmans, Vindmans and other neocon trash.

      • Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 11:26 am #

        Didn’t they say that the Southern District of New York is the court handling his case?

        They did such a wonderful job with the Epstein case, people were left thinking justice was done and Prince Andrew is a pedophile.

      • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 2:17 pm #

        Or just skip off to Israel under another name.

    • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 10:57 am #

      BRH

      If Hunter gets hit, so does the Big Guy.

      This is a Mob. The entire Lib structure is going to try to stop any investigation as it leads right to their appointed top.

      Sam better stand by, he is the Lib’s scapegoat.

  16. Zoltar December 16, 2022 at 10:31 am #

    “What’s liable to come out of all this in 2023 is a grotesque spewage of info about official corruption and misconduct that will make the projectile vomiting from The Exorcist look like a mere Satanic loogie in comparison.” Marvelous!

    As the GOP gears up for combat against the malefactors Jim has listed in ’23, it would be fascinating to know how the Dems are marshaling their forces to obstruct, obfuscate, and throw multiple monkey wrenches into the gears of justice.

    None of which will actually solve any of the existential problems facing the nation at this time, but it certainly whets one’s morbid curiosity. For want of actual gladiators, Christians, and lions to slay each other in our coliseums American Politics as blood sport will serve as our Bread and Circuses.

    • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 10:44 am #

      Well, we need more people of means like Musk to step up to the plate and start buying up major news media operations so that they too can be purged of the totalitarian Left tyrants who populate them. This should be done in precisely the same manner as Musk did with Twitter.

      The bottom line is that most of the sheeple are sheeple because (A) They are not very bright to begin with, and (B) The are extremely lazy – especially in the intellectual curiosity department.

      So, most of the drooling masses who alarmingly possess the right to vote are accustomed to being spoon-fed “positions” on what to think and how to think.

      We can do nothing to change the fundamental nature of such morons. All we can hope for is that another worthy billionaire will take up the banner of freedom and do like Musk did – SNATCH the bullhorns away from the tyrants so that the great masses of unwashed idiots can hear another point of view and a different set of facts for a change.

      • Rowdypiglet December 16, 2022 at 10:59 am #

        The sheep have one ability that they have honed to a level rarely seen before: the ability to ignore any message that contradicts their programming. There’s no reason to believe that they won’t continue to do so until some condition over which they have no control makes it impossible to continue.

        I suspect such a condition would need to be so extreme – starvation, homelessness, freezing – that they would then be entirely occupied in the effort to stay alive, and would never need to think about how or why they got there. If they managed to survive and regain a minimal level of comfort (food, clothing, shelter) they would probably blame Trump for what had happened to them.

        • Jimpa December 16, 2022 at 12:07 pm #

          With Musk’s twitter and Open AI, maybe the programming is about to change for at least some of the Sheeple. Programming! It just occured to me it’s not about the truth as much as who controls the programming.

          • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 2:24 pm #

            The People are putty in the hands of any Elite. They are lost without them. They must be taken care of and told as much truth as they can handle. Those who want to know more and can know more, should get to know more.

            You can condition the people to unnatural ways of life and thought that destroy them. Or you can condition them to a way of life that is good for them.

            Humans are like dogs: Hierarchy seekers. As the Ancient Greeks said, A man alone is either a beast or a god. Such gods are rare…..

          • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 3:10 pm #

            Lots of truth bombs in what Jarek just said. Putty is right!

          • Alzaebo December 17, 2022 at 6:54 am #

            That’s it! That’s the secret weakness to Democracy: like dogs: Hierarchy seekers.

            Democracy must be constrained by a limiting principle, and the oldest and surest is race. Homogenous population.

            This weakness, then, was known and exploited. Note that the century of “democracy” and expanding sufferage was the century of federal governments, BIS banks, multicultural
            immigration, and intercontinental war.

            To test the example, notice South America. They had civil wars, yes, but stayed out of the big ones. War is constrained, then, by racial borders, rather than a spreading conflagration.
            A different sort of Domino theory.

        • workingclasshero December 17, 2022 at 12:10 am #

          “The sheep have one ability that they have honed to a level rarely seen before: the ability to ignore any message that contradicts their programming. There’s no reason to believe that they won’t continue to do so until some condition over which they have no control makes it impossible to continue.”

          “I suspect such a condition would need to be so extreme – starvation, homelessness, freezing – that they would then be entirely occupied in the effort to stay alive, and would never need to think about how or why they got there. If they managed to survive and regain a minimal level of comfort (food, clothing, shelter) they would probably blame Trump for what had happened to them.”

          In our current situation they’d just be organized by the Marxists.

          • Alzaebo December 17, 2022 at 7:05 am #

            Excellent, workingclass.
            That’s what Marxists do, that’s all they do: organize division.

            It seems an impulse to break traditional classifications and reorganize them along artificial castes.

            In a homogenous polpulation, they go for economic class war.

            In a clear majority-minority population, they go for race war.

            In a multicultural population, they go for gender war.

            In a sexually ambiguous population, they’re now going for age war- mixing up the clear lines between child and adult.

            Keeping up with the arbitrary fads of their distinctions must be how they gain status. They act as if they know something the commoners do not, and are thus superior.

    • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 10:45 am #

      The GOP gearing up for combat. That’s not something I can visualise easily. I bet the Dems are quaking in their boots! I have zero faith that the GOP will do anything. Their only action since the midterms has been to help shoo in the awful marriage protection act that will lead to major persecution for many of the people they represent. Any salvation will come from something/somewhere completely unexpected and left-field.

      • Uncle Bob December 16, 2022 at 11:08 am #

        There will be no salvation from the Left’s persecution of Orthodox Jews and Christians by venal politicians. The GOP will do its normal half-assed job in Congress that will result in its members being crucified for everything from parking violations to wars to economic catastrophe to murders to Sen. Schmendrick wearing his glasses like a schoolmarm. We are well and truly fucked.

        As for clot shots, you have to wonder if Coach Mike Leach’s sudden death earlier this week was caused by them. Soon after he passed, news stories briefly mentioned that he’d had pneumonia just before he died, yet he attended a Christmas party the night before his heart attack. Media spin, perhaps? Oh, no, surely not! The news media are truthful and unbiased!

      • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 3:11 pm #

        The GOP’s idea of gearing up for combat is to show up to a nuclear war bearing paintball guns and face shields.

        • Alzaebo December 17, 2022 at 7:18 am #

          I thought is was to surrender before war had been declared.

  17. TaxDonkey December 16, 2022 at 10:43 am #

    Peter Daszak pre-Covid19:

    “we need to increase public understanding of the need for MCMs such as a pan-influenza or pan-coronavirus vaccine. A key driver is the media, and the economics follow the hype. We need to use that hype to our advantage to get to the real issues. Investors will respond if they see profit” –

  18. kbird December 16, 2022 at 10:49 am #

    LOL another National Enquirer article..

  19. Rowdypiglet December 16, 2022 at 11:01 am #

    Thanks for this one, Mr. K. I rely on you to lay out the facts, awful as they are, and make me laugh in the face of doom. That’s pretty much priceless.

  20. JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 11:03 am #

    Hahahahahahaha.

    Denver has filed an emergency order because the are getting so many illegals and legals that it is busting their budget. Colorado requires the state budget be balanced.

    Hilarious, Colorado paying for Biden’s Bozo Act at the border. Think about this, even you liberals. The Feds keep that border wide open, do not provide any money to the locals to pay for welfare.

    Even California is requesting money from the Feds for relief. Hahahahahahaha!

    Do you think the big picture here may include the Feds weakening the power of the states by overwhelming them?

    • thirdcoastlegend December 16, 2022 at 11:39 am #

      JAZ-

      Yes, the Feds really do want weak states since each one is a potential rival to their grip on power.

      Florida is the prime example at present.

      We’d probably still have lockdowns and face diapers if DeSantis hadn’t seen through the scam and fought back, setting an example for others.

      • Ron Anselmo December 17, 2022 at 12:27 am #

        TCL – here’s a thought that still occasionally awakens me in a cold sweat at night. I’m talking heebie-jeebies.

        In the 2018 general election for Governor of Florida, DeSantis beat Democratic candidate Andrew Gillum, by 0.4%, 49.6% for DeSantis, to 49.2% for Gillum.

        At the time, Gillum, the black, then Mayor of Tallahassee, FL, state capital of Florida, was already under investigation for corruption in city government.

        In addition, during the campaign, Gillum was found naked and unconscious in his own vomit, from smoking crystal meth, in a ritzy South Beach (Miami) hotel room, with a bunch of male hookers. I have the link to the article, which contains pictures, but I’ll spare CFN’ers the filth.

        Apparently, this did not make him unelectable for Democrats. File under: You Can’t Make This Stuff Up

        I cannot even begin to imagine the fate of Florida, had Gillum been Governor of Florida, from 2018 until present. As Jim says, it would have made projectile vomiting look like a Satanic loogie – how fitting.

        • Paula D December 17, 2022 at 11:33 am #

          Wow, Ron, I never heard that. Was it covered up by the state media or just the national?

          We saw how strictly they censored Hunter Biden’s laptop.

        • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2022 at 12:23 am #

          Paula – here you go. I’d say enjoy, but their depravity knows no bounds. These people are sick and cannot be helped – time for them to go.

          dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8110423/Florida-Democrat-Andrew-Gillum-hotel-room-male-escort-overdosed.html

          Add: prefix – h t t p s slash slash colon w w w dot

          • Paula D December 18, 2022 at 2:17 pm #

            Oh, the Daily Mail. I find it odd that they cover some US news stories that US media refuses to cover.

    • Not_GeorgeT December 16, 2022 at 12:56 pm #

      The ‘central government’ has limited purpose, much of it defined as maintaining a court system for disputes between the states, a navy, a postal system, and defense of the states.

      It currently is like a gas engine misfiring on most cylinders.

      The states could starve the federal government by turning off the spigot and refusing the fiat money. Tough love? It’s doable, just not easy.

    • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 2:25 pm #

      The Cloward-Piven strategy writ very large indeed.

      • Alzaebo December 17, 2022 at 7:32 am #

        Classic Clow-Pi.

        Overwhelm a *government* system with demand. And voila! Somehow, we all get hay, feed, and a stall!

        • Alzaebo December 17, 2022 at 7:34 am #

          And kudos to JAZ. Most astute, a compelling observation. This is a swarm attack against the states.

    • Islander December 16, 2022 at 2:57 pm #

      ” Think about this, even you liberals.”

      Are there any “liberals” in the CFN room?

      Please raise your hands!

      • Ron Anselmo December 17, 2022 at 12:36 am #

        Hand. FIFY

  21. rudyspeaks December 16, 2022 at 11:12 am #

    Musk still will NOT allow Twitter to question the official narratives of the Covid scamdemic, the Ukraine War, or, of course, Musk’s actual motives. The risible nonsense about the “right” being silenced on establishment media (which are, so sorry, 6 companies OWNED by 5 clusters of right-wing billionaires (Murdoches, Luces, Disneys and Redstones…+ Comcast) [notorious Bolsheviks, all!]) is intolerable to anyone w/a functioning frontal lobe…I mean, did ONE of these propaganda arms NOT lie us into every war of the last 60 years? May I ask HOW such obeisance to plutocratic propaganda is “Left wing”? Both the Media nor the Democratic (sic) Party are in the total control (as are the “Repubs”) of the .01%ers. The DNC just voted BILLIONS of tax dollars to a fascist government! How “Commie”! And voted more $ to the War department than they asked for! The entire political charade of a “battle” between 2 identical parties is staged for the naive. 50 years of “Reagan” tax policies and a hundred neo-liberal “decisions”, backed by BOTH (ends of the same) party have shaved Middle Class income by over 20%. And yet, the “non-readers” still whine about DNC “socialism” (HAH! Name ONE EXAMPLE, half-wit) and left-wing press (y’know, the ones who blanked out Bernie in 2016 and promoted Hillary and RussiaGate!!) I have no tribe….

    • Paula D December 16, 2022 at 11:49 am #

      The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e., the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. … The material forces dictate and impose its ideas.

      • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 2:29 pm #

        Thus the higher men should rule over those who only care about matter – such as the Capitalists/Communists. In Russia, the military has gained ascendancy over the Capitalists. And Putin himself told a meeting of Jews that their forefathers who dominated the Revolution, put forward largely worthless economic and social doctrines – communism in other words.

      • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 3:34 pm #

        Does anyone still doubt me about Paula being a communist?

      • Paula D December 16, 2022 at 8:10 pm #

        Readers of the blog, unite! You have nothing to lose from yanking Jarek’s chain and a great deal of mirth to gain.

      • Jarek December 18, 2022 at 1:10 pm #

        But you don’t deny it, do you?

  22. mitchellc December 16, 2022 at 11:26 am #

    Sigh, after all this time, it seems only Dis, Paula & Jaz (welcome!) get the picture

    It always gets back to depletion, overshoot and degredation. Covid/Vax was simply a test run (with perhaps culling side benefits) in preparation for full spectrum control.

    By that I mean asset restrictions (housing), controls over jobs/wages, consumption, mobility & association, and of course the very function of money and exchange.

    Both woke cultural destruction and population substitution are designed to destroy the existing white family unit which firms the main bulwark against a future WEF program.

    AGW of course is intended to provide the full implementation mechanism, with financial (cbdc) and media monopolies supplementing traditional security state hard power.

    But you know what? All these grandiose plans are dependent on one thing: having enough juice to keep the *existing* game going another decade during the transition period

    However, as we all know, there’s been a slight problem. In fact, it’s beginning to look increasingly likely that the West won’t actually be able to secure these necessary reserves.

    So, what’s worse, having the system transition smoothly to the new future, OR, having destroyed society, set up the basis for civil war, and blown up the $usd, we still have to deal with overshoot, depletion and degradation with every institutional function inoperable?

    This is why I say if you know what’s going on, you should have a strong life drive. What’s coming down the pike is gonna match the collapse of Rome from an entertainment perspective.

    • gustafson.robert.22 December 16, 2022 at 11:43 am #

      “system transition smoothly to the new future,”

      Never was a possibility.

      Some of the more baroque visions of a New World Order afoot lookin’ a little suss..

    • Islander December 16, 2022 at 2:53 pm #

      “Sigh, after all this time, it seems only Dis, Paula & Jaz (welcome!) get the picture”

      Bollocks.
      And please, hold the world-weary sighing!

    • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 3:53 pm #

      A brain bug. It’s afraid!

  23. scoubidou123 December 16, 2022 at 11:44 am #

    I am wondering how many people have read Peter Zeihan, “The end of the world is just the beginning”, and what they think of it. It has similarities with Kunstler’s idea of ‘long emergency’, and yet is different in other ways.

    – it more or less assumes that in the twenties and thirties, the globalized economy will collapse, and to a spectacular degree, so pretty much all transcontinental economic activity will come to an end. To me this is a weakness of the book, in that he spends very little time developing why this should occur, to the degree he thinks it will. He says: population implosion in much of the world dooms very many countries, and the end of the US as the world’s policeman securing world trade will lead to intercontinental trade dying. I don’t disagree completely, but there is quite a stretch between a slowdown and the total collapse he describes.
    – he does speak of a financial world that has stretched credit beyong what is reasonable and is due for a crash
    – he does not initially speak much of energy in a Peak Oil way, though he does say that the current industry is vulnerable to the globalization disruptions he expects, AND he spends several pages detailing how the common talk of a smooth energy transition is a dillusion.
    – he does NOT devote any time to considerations about politics, ideologies, populism, population replacement in western countries.
    – in a nutshell, he think Europe is doomed, China is mega-doomed, and North America, the US with its mexican and canadian satellites will be the raft to cling to in a world going to shit.

    • thirdcoastlegend December 16, 2022 at 12:28 pm #

      China’s recent Cv19 pivot was utterly bizarre.

      Overnight they went from, “We must weld positive cases in their homes or put them in camps and starve them to death!”

      To,

      “Relax, bros. It’s just the flu, bros.”

      Is it possible they realized 0-Cv19 was killing their economy, thus undermining their real estate market, killing the wealth of most Chinese, and ultimately undermining the CCP’s key core promise to the Chinese people?

      • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 2:47 pm #

        Someone here said that some of the old CCP guard were not on board and were fomenting a revolution against Xi – who may well have sold out his people to the Globalists.

        Maybe they have to go down to a few hundred million in other words.

      • Paula D December 16, 2022 at 3:14 pm #

        I copied a comment from MoA regarding that, if you are interested.

        It sounds to me like China did what the US does, started handing out government money to greedy bastards who do what they need to do to get more.
        That is the problem with our military-industrial-complex AND our medical-industrial complex.

        Here is the comment from a guy in China:
        ”True that lockdowns started in February 2020 all across China. But by April 2020 the USVirus was largely crushed and most parts of China were living a very normal pre C19 life without masks. Yes we do t wear masks as if we were born with it.
        There were sporadic outbreaks in 2021 due to millions of overseas Chinese cribbing for safety of home.
        Delta was brought into Guangzhou in October 2021 and immediately 2 not elderly died.
        For brief moments we went back to wear masks as outbreaks happened in Shijiazhuang, a city relatively near us. After their outbreaks life wrnt back to normal for us.
        We didn’t have any lockdowns and need to do regular nucleic acid tests. Nope.
        Then Shanghai fumbled badly in December 2021 with their complete initial Lie Down approach and their outbreak spread all over China. Huge Lockdowns started.
        My district was lockdowned for 20 days even though there were no outbreaks in our district but in the next district of our city.
        Even then no mass testing.

        It was this current outbreak that started in Beijing and spread all over China that local municipal govts began excessive and harsh measures of physically locking residents into their homes, chain locking apartment buildings, locking fire exits. Mass daily nucleic acid testings everyday even for residents under continuous lockdowns. Many reports of people died of fire in buildings illegally padlocked.

        These are everything Beijing said local govts are not to do but they still did it.
        I saw everything excessive and illegal happened to me personally. I have photos to prove it.

        I used to support the earlier lockdowns because I understood their purposes then we’re to save lives and protect the people.

        But this time, it was obvious that some local govts were profiting personally by abusing lockdown and mass testing, centralised isolation, positive test results. Common sense will tell you how they made huge sums of money there.

        Explain how people under lockdown confined to their homes for 10 days can test positive. That’s a clear giveaway on abusing test results. And the large numbers of “abnormal” results requiring further tests.
        Over last 2 years these didn’t happen. But suddenly this time they do. Clearly there’s a huge scam going on.
        Now nobody trust the test results anymore.

        Remember the state pays for everything. It’s trillions RMB every year and some people finally wised up to suck the flow because they don’t have to itemise the bills to Beijing.
        Yes in the past there were illegal locking people in their homes but back then it was not so widespread as what happened recently. There was simply no clear reasons to do so in my estate. No reason to suddenly move hundreds of the building residents into centralised isolation just because of 1 infected case on the very top floor of the building. Suddenly we were all classified as “Close contact” like we personally shook hands with the infected person. The municipal govts also shut down supermarkets and wholesale food centers. Those are again what Beijing said cannot do.

        Remember state pays for everyone on centralised isolation. About RMB¥3,500 per head. Remember there’s such a thing as kickbacks.

        It was very obvious some officials were abusing lockdowns, mass testing, centralised isolation, fake positives, to make money from the state.

        That’s why the huge public anger. And then Beijing put their foot down and issued the 20 Optimised Measures. People took it and protested against their local govts.
        Our lockdown was silently lifted on Monday even though today our municipal govt has not issued a formal notice of lifting.

        So the huge protests were only recent because of clear abuses by the municipal govts, and today have largely died down as lockdowns care lifted everywhere.

        Posted by: Surf

        • Paula D December 16, 2022 at 3:22 pm #

          The US government did the same thing in 2020, with bonuses for PCR testing and putting people on ventilators.

          It’s always follow the money.

        • thirdcoastlegend December 16, 2022 at 5:54 pm #

          Paula-

          Thanks for sharing this interesting find.

          It kind of lines up with the whispers that Xi has become such an isolated autocrat that no one is willing to bring him bad, or even realistic, neutral news because they fear the potential consequences.

    • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 5:16 pm #

      So, he’s not optimistic then. Yes, no?

      • scoubidou123 December 19, 2022 at 10:28 am #

        Oh he is very, very pessimistic. He gives a good and detailed historical perspective on how we got to the globalised economy we are in, under the aegid of the US military, and then walks us through the consequences if this was to go away – which he thinks is happening right now. Recent years have been as good as it is going to get for several decades.

        Towards the end of the book as he admits himself, he turns very grim when it comes to impact on food production. He thinks it will go down, and as a result, the population of the planet will go down. The progress in agriculture, the use of fertilisers, the optimization of food production through mechanization enabled by cheap energy, world-wide supply chains and intercontinental food shipments will come to a halt.

        Yet, according to him, North America is going to be the best place to be.

  24. Rodulf December 16, 2022 at 11:45 am #

    And again, I have to say, I will believe it when I see it. Americans, and especially White Americans, are apathetic cowards, ruled by a totally corrupt system. Hell, their children are murdered in their own front yard and ran over and killed in parades in avowedly racist attacks and they just roll over and change the TV channel. So, no, I don’t expect much…

    • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 3:16 pm #

      Oh, those people are known as “Goodwhites.” There is no indignity that they will not endure. To the bitter end these fools will be performing sexual favors on their executioners right up to the moment that the knife slices open their throats – ending their exertions.

      The rest of us “Badwhites” do not subscribe to this disgraceful self-hate. We tend to be the ones Hank Williams Jr. sang about in “A Country Boy Can Survive.”

  25. Nigel Tufnel December 16, 2022 at 11:47 am #

    Every time I see her name, the name I see in my mind is RoachMotelle.

    Thanks Mr. K, for another enlightened essay.

  26. Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 11:53 am #

    There is already a campaign underway to paint the Brinkman-Fried parents as relatable because they tried their best but oh, look their kid is a crook.

    It should be obvious to anyone that mom and dad are the brains behind the scam, which was just outright stealing and not some complex whiz kid venture that failed.

    • BackRowHeckler December 16, 2022 at 12:07 pm #

      Well, right now SBFs parents are busing trying to get Vegan Meals to Sam inside the Bahamian prison where he is being held. Apparently, dry baloney sandwiches with no condiments is not at all to his liking.

      • Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 1:04 pm #

        Whatever is to his liking was making him puffy and fat with ratty hair.

        • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 2:50 pm #

          No, his mom has the same hair. He needs McDonald’s! Only the Clown can save him….

      • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 5:17 pm #

        Wonder if they’ll try to sneak in a key in the middle of a tofu energy bar or nut cutlet?

    • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 3:17 pm #

      SBF was nothing but a tool – a patsy – a fall guy – like Oswald.

  27. neurodoc December 16, 2022 at 12:08 pm #

    In addition to the developing disclosures of the fake ‘vaxx,’ there’s another development not widely know, and shunned by most of the corporate whore media, that is going to blow the minds of many an american. It is the case in the style of Brunson v. Adams, which asks for a writ of certiorari by the US Supreme Court. It has been accepted by SCOTUS (a rare event) with the case # 22-4007, for those who want to check it out. BRIEFLY, it states that 1) many in the senate and house engaged in a major constitutional violation (for which they do NOT have immunity) by NOT competently investigating the complaints and rumors of mendacity in the 2020 election and 2) casually and flippantly certified it. The trial starts on, guess when, Jan 6, 2023, and if the complaint is accepted by 4 SCOTUS justices, it will vacate the current offices of over 150 house reps, over 50 senators, and the fake pres and vp and force new elections within 90 days. The required initial response of the defendants (i.e. in the house and senate) within the 15 day notice period was a shocking, ‘no contest.’ This is no joke and definitely not a hoax. Check out the SCOTUS docket number above and the website of the plaintiff lawyers, sevendiscoveries.com. The plaintiffs are four brothers, the Brunsons, who are all constitutional expert attorneys.

    • Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 1:07 pm #

      It’s a long shot.

      The brothers may be constitutional experts, but I think we have maybe one of those on the Supreme Court.

      Amy Coney Barrett sure as hell isn’t it.

      • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 2:23 pm #

        As we’ve seen amply demonstrated the past few years, the law is whatever they say it is.

    • TPTB-USA December 16, 2022 at 2:35 pm #

      “New elections” ought to go over like a lead balloon.

      The players are jockeying for position. At this point, don’t you think it is just a matter of who fires the first shot?

    • Wizard of the Saddle December 16, 2022 at 3:18 pm #

      That is MIND BLOWING Neurodoc.

      • malthuss December 17, 2022 at 10:07 pm #

        what is it?

  28. docmartin December 16, 2022 at 12:11 pm #

    It’s not about the truth. It’s about the public’s acceptance of the lies.
    Kennedy and King murders
    Vietnam
    911 and Iraq
    Voter fraud
    Etc
    Etc
    As long as most Americans have fast food, an iPhone, and multiple distractions they don’t give a rats ass for the truth. They just shrug and go on with their lives, kinda like we thought the Russians did in the previous century.

    • neurodoc December 16, 2022 at 12:29 pm #

      In the next 2-3 years, millions of deaths obviously related to the S1 glycoprotein toxin from the fake ‘faxx’ will possibly wake up many people. I’m already seeing many patients, from widely varying education levels, come into my office asking me why their ‘pcp’ told them to take the clot shot. My answer, “ask your pcp.” Unfortunately a bad joke, given the current poor state of primary care ‘medicine’ in the US Corporation.

      • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 2:52 pm #

        Living incarnations of a dangerous drug – pcp. No wonder they pushed it. They’re pushers.

        • Blackbird December 16, 2022 at 9:24 pm #

          Never tried it did you Jaros?

          If LSD and cocaine had a child, it would be PCP.

          Ran a ripsaw in a table factory for a month on PCP. Whipped my end of the shop into the SEAL Team 6 of woodworkers. Constructed a castle of scrap lumber. Built up a large stockpile of beautiful, knot-free oak boards. Was a shoe-in for employee of the month – but they gave it to a guy who came in drunk one day, got off the forklift while it was still in gear, and it knocked over a conveyor belt of tables destroying 6. Sometimes it’s hard to know what management is looking for…

          Anyway, since PCP does not occur naturally, it is no longer part of my pharmacopoeia. That, and it was a one-time (ok, one month) thing.

          • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 10:35 pm #

            Sounds great! Where are you on fentanyl? Paula says it no big deal – in contrast to everyone else.

          • Blackbird December 16, 2022 at 11:44 pm #

            Never tried it. Don’t plan to. It’s synthetic, so I don’t want it playing with my chemistry set.

            Got a codeine-based cough syrup for strep throat once. My one time riding the dragon. A very small dragon, but mine.

            First spoonful was heavenly – like coming down with a fever (the warm fuzzy part). The last spoonful only made me less grouchy.

          • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 2:51 pm #

            nice story. I have never come across it, (PCP) but it sounds like how speed makes me.
            Dope does it too, but it’s different.
            everyone is different even with the same drugs at the same dose, was my experience. (with the stuff I did get to try)

      • Night Owl December 16, 2022 at 3:18 pm #

        A little anecdotal evidence. We have a hospital not far from here and the main ambulance route runs by our front door.

        Normally, we would have an ambulance going by, sirens blaring, about once or twice a week.

        These past few months, and particularly over the past few weeks, we get about 15 ambulances a day.

        There are some good people who took that swill. I wish them the best of luck.

        • Ron Anselmo December 17, 2022 at 1:38 am #

          Thanks Owl – the only evidence I trust anymore – anecdotal.

          On stillbirths, I ask a friend who is a 30-year labor & delivery nurse. On mortalities, I ask a friend in the mortuary business. It’s the only way anymore – we all have to dig.

          Then of course, wasting no time or energy debating the realities with the mentally handicapped, but just spending time quietly planning accordingly.

          • Night Owl December 17, 2022 at 3:52 am #

            Yep.

          • Paula D December 17, 2022 at 11:38 am #

            What did the L&D nurse say, Ron?

            I know that my niece’s best friend delivered a stillborn baby girl last June. I assume she got the jab, but of course I didn’t ask.

          • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 3:02 pm #

            I took out a funeral plan yesterday at the local guy. Not that I plan going soon, but I assume it’ll happen at some point.
            Anyway, he seems to have, as John O’Looney said is happening, stopped actually embalming the bodies. He was quite forthcoming and was very interested in the view of this being a major crime. Seems to have occurred to him. Double vaxxed but no more he says.
            But hasn’t seen the clots (because of not embalming), was a little evasive over whether he thought there were far more deaths from the vax than the convid.
            But he took down the howbad.info website and vigiaccess.org too info and later on I wassaped him a link to a subtitled version of Died Suddenly.
            Unlike many whingers I am not upset at all about the intro song and video of every conspiracy theory possible.
            My first time through my mind didn’t even consciously register.
            I also passed him a spanish page with a full on list of the science reasons to not get this shot, which as many here know, is long and varied.

        • Anthea December 17, 2022 at 11:36 pm #

          @ Night Owl:

          I once lived on a main ambulance route. It’s annoying, at the best of times.

    • Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 1:08 pm #

      *Biden just kept some of the Kennedy documents classified for even longer.

      • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 2:58 pm #

        Tucker made that his keynote last night. He invited Mike Pompeo on, but Mike declined.

        Tucker’s Inside Source: The CIA was directly involved. We don’t live in the country we thought we did. That’s just a fantasy.

        So on what basis can we get back to that – since it was never very real to begin with? Only on the Constitution and the virtue that created it. And that wasn’t the virtue of Saints, much less “liberals”. They were White Nationalist Indian fighters and Slavers. Some of them admitted that was wrong. They were Protestant Christians (with Catholics grudgingly accepted – one signer I believe) and Freemasonic thinkers. These were White Nationalists too. An ideological conflict? Yeah. But that was the situation.

        • Edge Lord December 16, 2022 at 4:27 pm #

          CIA with assistance from a certain ethnic mob with connections to foreign deep state actors.

          This is why it has been kept secret for so long.
          Imagine when Americans find out that they have been living in a puppet state all this time.

          • Islander December 16, 2022 at 4:43 pm #

            On this topic See Laurent Guyenot’s articles published at The Unz Review.

          • Edge Lord December 16, 2022 at 5:24 pm #

            People believe(d) that a terminally-ill career gangster named Jack Ruby killed miracle sniper Oswald out of vengeance.

            The TV told them so
            and the Dulles commission

          • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 3:04 pm #

            unz.com is another go-to for sure. Comments are plentiful, interesting and informative very often.

    • malthuss December 16, 2022 at 1:11 pm #

      lies

      multi cult
      multi lingual
      die versity
      immigration
      laws laws laws
      fake hate crimes

  29. Islander December 16, 2022 at 12:33 pm #

    Re
    httpX://www.zerohedge.com/political/picture-devastation-worlds-largest-cylindrical-aquarium-bursts-1500-tropical-fish-inside

    There is a pretty good embedded video shot from inside the hotel.
    I was going to say “hotel hubris” but now it it looking like “climate change cluelessness.”

    From the comment thread:

    “Premium
    1 hour ago

    I am directly involved in the legal cleanup of this and can provide a little more detail as to what actually happened (Tyler, reach out to me you have my email if you’d like to verify my identity here). 

    The city of Berlin required the hotel reduce the ambient temperature of the hotel lobby to save on energy due to sanctions. Its been abnormally cold in Berlin the past few nights dipping down to -11°C last night and -12°C the night before that. The water is heated to a constant temperature above 30°C for many of the fish species that lived in the tank. 

    As the nights got colder and colder, the lower ambient temperature of the air surrounding the tank likely started causing deformations and hairline cracks in the bottom of the tank where the pressure is the greatest. Last night at -11° caused the ambient temperature to drop too low given the reduced heating in the lobby and is what it looks like caused the “sudden unintentional disassembly”/catastrophic failure of the tank. 

    Everyone is already lawyering up including the city, the HVAC manufacturer, tank manufacturer, HVAC installer, building engineer, hotel – the litigation is going to be fun to watch and work on. 

    What isn’t covered in the news is damage. The tank in 2003 cost €13 million. Today its orders of magnitude more expensive to replace, some of the fish were quite exotic and are expensive losses in and of themselves. Then you have the damage to the hotel lobby and façade, electrical components of the building in the three-story basement are also effected and large amounts of water went into the parking garage where many vehicles are parked not only from the hotel and offices but from an attached apartment complex to the hotel.  

    Losses are tens of millions. All because the city made the hotel turn down the heat. I imagine someone will be blaming Putin before too long. ” 

    Here is more from this commenter, Haus-Tagaryen, on the debacle (it sounds like science wins this one . . .):

    httpX://www.zerohedge.com/user/105370

    • stelmosfire December 16, 2022 at 12:41 pm #

      “sudden unintentional disassembly” Haha That’s a new one.I gotta remember that.

      • Paddys Lament December 16, 2022 at 3:08 pm #

        Kinda like what the so-called “Ampel Koalation’ government is doing to German industry.

        • Night Owl December 16, 2022 at 5:33 pm #

          They are attacking more than German industry. They are Klausi’s foot soldiers.

          • Paddys Lament December 17, 2022 at 10:15 am #

            Yes. Baerbock, Habeck & Co. have been doing yeoman’s work making the rounds for their boss Klaus.

          • Paddys Lament December 18, 2022 at 11:43 am #

            And may I add, the Devil’s wages appear to be taking their toll on Herr Habeck, who’s aging faster than the ‘Picture of Dorian Gray.’

          • Night Owl December 18, 2022 at 6:25 pm #

            He may have also taken the clot-shot.

            Everyone I know who has taken it aged 10 years in about 6-7 months.

          • MaryQueen December 18, 2022 at 10:15 pm #

            Night Owl, many people have noticed that. I think I mentioned before my lawn guy. He’s the one who almost died from BOTH shots (and then got boosters). He is 48, now looks 60+.

            I keep expecting to hear that he dropped dead since he also pushes himself to the limit by handling like 40 clients a day (mowing) sometimes in 100+ heat, day after day, in the summer.

            In any case, wow. He looks like shit.

    • Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 1:11 pm #

      What a shame.

    • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 2:19 pm #

      Wow! That must have been quite a sight!

    • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 3:03 pm #

      A nice thing. Germans can’t have nice things any more. Not even heat.

      That’s how Ike killed the German POW’s in the camps: No heat or shelter. They died of exposure. You knew that, right? You never talk about it though, which is strange.

      • Night Owl December 17, 2022 at 5:46 pm #

        I was in a Zoom call with two colleagues recently. Both also based in Germany. Both native Germans.

        Both wearing down coats and hats because they could not turn up the thermostat because Olaf told them that Putin wins when they do so.

        Both also triple clot-shotted.

        Both dumb as rocks.

    • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 5:19 pm #

      Sounds fishy to me

    • malthuss December 16, 2022 at 7:17 pm #

      reminds me of the Kansas glass dance floor tragedy.

  30. Gonga Din December 16, 2022 at 12:36 pm #

    Joe and Jill climbed up the hill to fetch a pail of water. Joe fell down and broke his crown, and Jill came tumbling after.

    Two words: Cue Nukes

  31. Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 12:43 pm #

    The son of David DePape said that for all we know his father was some sort of sex slave.

    That sounds about right

    • MaryQueen December 16, 2022 at 4:02 pm #

      Interesting, and also not at all surprising.

    • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 5:20 pm #

      Funny, that’s what my wife calls me.

      • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 6:03 pm #

        LOL! No ball gags involved, I hope?

  32. mitchellc December 16, 2022 at 1:09 pm #

    How many people are aware that one of Russia’s stated war aims includes defeating the US $ dollar system Now, I know the vast majority of people – including those at CFN – will dismiss that possibility out of hand.

    But consider this: out of 3 possible outcomes for the West (victory, draw, loss), draw is in fact also defeat. That’s because denial of fossil fuel surplus necessary for continued expansion of the credit money system spells the end of the reserve currency.

    It really is just that simple; Russia only has to not lose. Maintenance of the current status quo (control of natural resources) will allow a non dollar, non swift, non petro dollar to emerge, gaining strength as trading and exchange volume increase.

    So here’s my suggestion: pay close attention to Ukraine. If Russia prevails, all of issues addressed in jims missives will go into hyperdrive resolution

    Woke, race, demographics, states, regions, inflation, elections, censorship, etc – everything people complain about here and alt.media – will be laid bare as a center will no longer exist.

    Covid, WEF, woke – all that shit will be old news.

    • Islander December 16, 2022 at 1:40 pm #

      Russian isn’t THAT hard to learn.

      There are a lot of English loan words in Russian.

      Here are fifty common loan words, presented charmingly by Nastya:

      httpX://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaGHbQLXBhg

      My search for “English loanwords in Russian” got mainly Russian loanwords in English. Sigh . . . Someone at Google does not want us to learn Russian!!

      • Night Owl December 16, 2022 at 3:21 pm #

        Russian is harder than German, and to this day I have yet to meet one foreigner who has been here in Germany less than 15-20 years that doesn’t sound like a child with a speech impediment.

        Americans notoriously overestimate their abilities when it comes to foreign languages.

        • Islander December 16, 2022 at 4:47 pm #

          Well, you never met me.

          So STFU.

          • Night Owl December 16, 2022 at 5:32 pm #

            But I have read your posts.

          • Islander December 16, 2022 at 11:02 pm #

            Example, please.

          • Night Owl December 17, 2022 at 3:49 am #

            Most recently, your comment here. German is a difficult language to speak properly. Russian is more difficult.

            We will not get into reading comprehension in English.

          • Islander December 17, 2022 at 5:07 pm #

            “Most recently, your comment here. German is a difficult language to speak properly. Russian is more difficult. ”

            Wow, you have gone native!

            Like many Germans, you can no longer recognize an obvious joke.

            Hint: “‘I’m learning Chinese,’ says Wernher von Braun.”

          • Night Owl December 17, 2022 at 5:43 pm #

            I will let you save face. We all act retarded sometimes.

        • Islander December 16, 2022 at 11:21 pm #

          Why does my little joke about Russian put such a hair up your ass?

          Literal much?

          Your “speech impediment” comment is BS. There are plenty of Americans who speak good German.

          It is your own problem if you move in dumb circles.

      • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 3:11 pm #

        google is ridiculously bad now, not worth going to except for maps and directions.
        Everyone whinges about DDG but it still usually works for me that often searches for forbidden topics.
        Brave search seems as bad as google basically.
        Google wouldn’t allow me to find “Turtles All The Way Down” book, try it yourselves and see.
        And no, not the “Turtles All The Way Down” book or movie or any of the other things that google offers you but the book subtitled ‘Vaccine Safety and Myth’
        Also couldn’t get google to find me the ‘men who want to be left alone’ quote where DDG gave it to me five times in the top six results.

        • Islander December 17, 2022 at 5:29 pm #

          Spaingaroo:

          I had no trouble with a search for the Turtles title.

          I got plenty of hits for the book.

          Actually, I got a hit for a Wiki entry on the expression “Turtles All the Way Down.” I had never heard of this expression.

          There is no law against using a title for a book that has already been used for another book. Especially if the expression already exists anyhow.

          So to me it makes sense that a Google search for the main title alone would get hits for the young adult book and for the expression. You would have to add the subtitle to get your target book.

          There are a lot of positive reviews and other info (a video) at the Amazon site.

          My “to read” stack of books is already out of control, and covid19 has already turned me into a jab skeptic, so this one is not a high priority for me.
          But thanks for the heads-up.

          • spaingaroo December 19, 2022 at 12:20 pm #

            yes, I hear you on the reading list ballooning out of hand.
            Turtles is especially good for giving out to pro-skeptics as it is all referenced from the cdc and the main players. No woo-woo as they say
            no alternative nothing.
            Just the main science properly organised and described so you see that it’s all Turtles, all the way down.
            Of course they still call it anti-vaxx grifting and just pretend it’s ‘not worth’ reading
            “Anyone Who Tells you Vaccines are Safe and Effective is Lying” is easier still for them to dismiss, as they get butthurt from the title alone.
            cheers

    • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 3:06 pm #

      Not sure I’m following: Blacks will not longer mug Whites and Asians? And will become good students?

      What are you saying? That diversity will become a real plus? Or do even you not know what you are saying?

    • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 5:22 pm #

      Agreed. It’s good to keep an eye on the bigger picture! And on this side of the fence, the globalists would be perfectly fine pushing us into real war to cover up any emerging and embarrasing revelations.

    • Islander December 16, 2022 at 5:49 pm #

      “Now, I know the vast majority of people – including those at CFN – will dismiss that possibility out of hand.”

      Really? How do you know what those at CFN think and know about this?

      Maybe because you just figured out Russia’s long-term aims yourself?

      It is notable that some commenters here cannot express an opinion or make some other contribution without putting others down in one way or another, directly or indirectly.

      You would almost think that is why they come here. To display their conceit and conviction of their superiority.

      • MaryQueen December 16, 2022 at 9:16 pm #

        The utter irony of this comment – hahahahhaa!

        • Islander December 16, 2022 at 11:00 pm #

          Look up “irony.”

          • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 3:11 pm #

            I wish we had like buttons, that’s all I say.

    • Alzaebo December 17, 2022 at 12:00 pm #

      So, no petro, no petrodollar?
      That means no Eurodollars* either.

      *Eurodollars: exchange dollars outside the US

  33. Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 1:17 pm #

    Here’s a tweet relating to Musk and free speech.

    It’s funny how they whine when the shoe is on the other foot, and it’s as if they don’t even see it.

    https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1603769795006017536?s=20&t=SzBgXpliKVIY2fmreXOMqA

    • Islander December 16, 2022 at 1:32 pm #

      So, is this Malone retweeting Musk?

      Regards, Twitidiot

      • Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 1:53 pm #

        I got it from the Denninger twitter site, so it was in this case Ticker guy retweeting Malone.

        I think what Malone did is send his own tweet with an attachment.

        Feel free to correct me on this, anybody.

  34. TPTB-USA December 16, 2022 at 1:32 pm #

    For at least the better part of a year the chatter was all about the red wave that was guaranteed to capture both the House and the Senate, and now we are talking about a one leg man wining a boxing match against the likes of Muhammad Ali?

    Are memories so short that no one remembers how recent depositions “to compel the testimony” play-out between combatant opponents?

    I think it is time to step away from the “noise”, and concede, that given all the issues that need to be unraveled, that irreconcilable differences is the current state of the US, and separation is in the best interest of the innocent majority that are being held hostage.

    Then, after the dust has settled, the remaining population of the world can entertain itself with the “Nuremberg trials”.

  35. dbrize December 16, 2022 at 1:43 pm #

    Well, of course JHK continues to be correct and the resident optimist in the face of disappointment.

    Faith in Trump, meh.

    Faith in Barr, double meh.

    Faith in Durham, meh, meh and meh.

    And here, faith in a narrow majority GOP House consisting of dubious leadership which has a reputation for tough talk while folding time after time.

    I pray he is correct, even reversion to mean would be helpful but…

    As always, hope springs eternal.

    • Mike G December 16, 2022 at 11:55 pm #

      have to agree dbreeze, nothing of significance is going to happen. Why no redwave, too many Americans have their hand out or employed by government, corruption or just don’t give a chit. A combo sure.What is the point? We know what is ahead. How apparent can it be that America on the federal level is just one big shitshow.

  36. elysianfield December 16, 2022 at 1:46 pm #

    Well, ladies and germs;

    You’ve heard or read of the concept of “nine meals from anarchy”. This short piece is a probable description of how it occurs and what it means;

    https://whiskeytangotexas.com/2022/12/14/nine-meals-from-anarchy-explained/

    I see no flaws in the argument.

    • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 2:06 pm #

      Reading it now. How in the world did you stumble across this little blog? One caveat: fresh potable water is an even more precious commodity, but that’s a small nit pick. The basic premise of the piece still holds.

      • elysianfield December 16, 2022 at 2:57 pm #

        “One caveat: fresh potable water is an even more precious commodity…”

        Dis,
        In this you are correct…however, when it rains, it rarely rains pork chops….

        In this same vein, I always suspected that the black swan (schwanz) would arrive when the toilets stop flushing…a seemingly minor disruption to people already prone to anarchy is all that would be required to take it to the streets.

        • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 3:12 pm #

          In this you are correct…however, when it rains, it rarely rains pork chops…

          LOL! That’s a keeper!

          Now imagine toilets not flushing and no toilet paper available either. A whole lotta stinky chafing butts out there taking it the streets. Whoo-eee!

    • BackRowHeckler December 16, 2022 at 4:34 pm #

      E. On a more positive note there never has been a famine in NAmerica. Food was short during the end of the War of 1812, and the Civil War, but the situation was quickly corrected.

      • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 4:43 pm #

        A whole lot fewer people then who didn’t eat so much, though. And a whole lot more farmers and acres under cultivation.

        • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 4:45 pm #

          And that was a time when human labor was still valued, so keeping people alive to do it was in everyone’s best interest. Now, not so much.

  37. Beryl of Oyl December 16, 2022 at 1:47 pm #

    Before I forget, here’s is a point that comes from an article by the Market Ticker, the article covers a lot of ground but it helps explain why I am having so much trouble getting people to believe me or even understand what I am saying when I try to tell them some facts abouy the vaxx and the entire scamdemic.

    “Every physical thing is governed by the laws of physics (of which chemistry is a part.) Again, there are no exceptions. The glass you pour beer into, the beer itself, your person, the shingles on your home, the chips in your phone and computer, the stars in the sky and the planet under your feet are all physical things and every one of them is governed by the above. There are no exceptions.

    If you think you found an exception you are ignorant of some aspect of that thing and, if you act with intent to modify said thing including that exception in what or why you are doing something if you prove to be right you weren’t right because you were smart, you were right because you were LUCKY. The next time you might not be.

    If you don’t look you will never see. If someone dies “suddenly” or “unexpectedly” until and unless the root cause of whatever killed them is discovered and published you cannot excuse that death. See above — the outcome was deterministic and thus the cause can be determined assuming we have the scientific knowledge and curiosity to do so. If someone has colon cancer and expires from a reasonably-expected series of events linked to it you don’t need an autopsy and pathology to know that colon cancer killed them; likewise if someone is shot and bleeds to death you don’t need an autopsy to determine that being shot was likely the underlying cause of death. However, if someone falls over dead from an aortic rupture, heart attack or stroke why it happened is not in evidence until and unless you identify the underlying cause. There is one because that event was in fact deterministic and being uncurious about why when the person was young and apparently in good health is stupid at best and might be malicious.”

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=247639

    I wouldn’t have been able to bring physics into the discussion to make a point in that way, but even if I did, I doubt some people would understand me anyway.

    • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 2:02 pm #

      We’ve been effectively conditioned to accept easy answers coming from authoritative figures. Most people are just not that inquisitive about pretty much anything when you get right down to it, especially with something like Covid, where they’ve already bought the ticket and for better or worse are now committed to taking the ride. See “whistling past the graveyard.”

      • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 3:27 pm #

        Lighten up, Mort. It’s just SADS! Flick that switch. Pop that brewski – with one hand! The game is coming on…..

        Ruckers. Pats vs Stealers.

      • Disaffected December 17, 2022 at 9:17 am #

        Stumbled across a Netflix documentary last night called “Don’t Pick Up the Phone,” about a hoax caller to fast food joints all over the country back in the early 2000’s. Details here:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strip_search_phone_call_scam

        The guy – a local FL corrections officer – was calling fast food joints all over the country from Panama City, FL posing as a local cop and talking the managers into doing all sorts of unspeakable things to a random female employee using very general descriptions, who he would accuse of stealing. He gave them the option of complying with a strip search right there over the phone or coming down to the station, so the managers and victims all complied to do it right in the manager’s office following his commands over the phone. It mirrored the famed “Milgram Experiments,” in that it was simply amazing the things he could get these people to submit to just by posing as an anonymous authority over the phone. Over 70 cases spread over 10 years. The caller was eventually prosecuted in KY and acquitted for lack of direct evidence, but the calls stopped immediately upon his arrest. The featured victim in the video eventually sued McDonald’s in the same jurisdiction and won $6.1M. A real head scratcher, as it seemed that everyone involved shared some of the guilt in the whole affair, not least of which were the managers and the victims themselves, who were so naïve to go along with the whole thing and not just hang up in the first place.

        • Disaffected December 17, 2022 at 9:23 am #

          I was also puzzled why the FBI wasn’t brought in on this, as early on it was revealed to be an interstate crime, and should have been prosecuted in federal courts.

          • Mike G December 19, 2022 at 12:03 am #

            I’d say the FBI was too busy protecting the criminal class to bother themselves with essentially just a pervert.

    • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 5:25 pm #

      That article was wonderful. I don’t think most “Greens” have a clue about any of this. They think it will all be rainbows and ponies if we get rid of those nasty hydrocarbons. My hope is that a hard winter and the EU sanctions against Russia will force the pols in charge to backtrack. There are already a few hints that they are looking at restarting some coal power plants.

  38. Islander December 16, 2022 at 2:44 pm #

    Another local “passed away suddenly while raking leaves.”

    Age: 76

    • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 3:13 pm #

      Those leaves can be very tenacious!

      • Hereward the Woke December 16, 2022 at 5:26 pm #

        Mostly leafy leaves.

  39. tom clark December 16, 2022 at 2:49 pm #

    Jimbo…would you please stop putting Joe Biden’s name in quotes? He’s a mother fucking human being, just like “Donald Trump”. They’re both legends in their own minds. Get over it.

    • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 3:20 pm #

      “The lil’ t” speaks! And in addition to being properly hyphenated in this instance, was “mother fucking” really necessary here at all? I thought Minnetonkans were typically mild-mannered and soft-spoken. You continue to baffle and confuse, lil’ t. Have you picked up these uncouth habits down in Swampwater FL?

      • Paula D December 16, 2022 at 3:33 pm #

        Well, we know he’s a daughter fucker. Where did he pick up that habit?
        Maybe ol’ tc knows something about Biden and his mother that we don’t.

        • Disaffected December 16, 2022 at 4:40 pm #

          Santa’s gonna stuff his stocking with some bar soap for his potty mouth this year. What’s your preference lil’ t? Lifebuoy or Irish Spring?

    • Edge Lord December 16, 2022 at 4:07 pm #

      The host is insinuating, correctly, that “Joe Biden” is a construct. Kind of like “Kermit’ except with a wider whole in his rear to make way for far more handlers.

    • benr December 16, 2022 at 5:00 pm #

      Tom mind your own business and quit telling Jim what to write or how to write.

    • Blackbird December 16, 2022 at 8:12 pm #

      t,

      Do you come here just to get smacked around? You know, there are clubs for that kinda thing.

      Your comments are like driving down a country road, glancing out the window, and there is some pudgy kid, propeller beanie on his head, finger up his nose, his other hand swinging his… well, I’d like to think it was his thumb, but it wasn’t that big.

      As I continue down the road, I’m dumbfounded – was that for me, or is that just what he does?

      • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 3:39 pm #

        haha, love the image

    • Billy Hill December 16, 2022 at 9:02 pm #

      I’m convinced Tom Clark is our host posting absurdities.

      “Mother fucking” kind of gives it away.

      On another tangent, apropos of nothing (Sheryl Crow — thank you) I exited my automobile today at whole foods as an I presume millienial was walking to her car talking into her phone. I counted the word “like” I swear at least 17 times.

      We need to re-do the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution in order to make sense of what’s happening.

      When, Like, in the course of Like Human Like events it becomes like necessary to like break the bonds that like separate the like bullshitters from the like bullshittees then, like, let’s get on with the like plan man or dont you have like any fucking clue what like is going on in the like world man and do you have a clue like what the fuck they like think about shit?

      Hey — maybe a way to connect with the teens!

    • Islander December 16, 2022 at 10:57 pm #

      Tom,

      You obviously don’t understand scare quos.

      Look up “uses of scare quos.”

  40. Jarek December 16, 2022 at 3:30 pm #

    Is Mary right? Is Elon the Antichrist, either metaphorically or in fact? Is free speech the “tasty morsel” he is offering the world in order to take it over, only to snatch it away as America soldiers teased starving German children with food?

    Will he save us from them only to reign over us all the worse?

    • Night Owl December 16, 2022 at 3:45 pm #

      He’s been doing some good work, but I don’t see how anyone can definitively say what his motives are at this point.

      I don’t really see Twitter remaining as relevant as it once was, regardless of his recent moves to free it up.

      The globo-nutters are already moving their propaganda machine over to “Mastodon,” and they will work to make it into the new Twitter.

      Time will tell.

      • thirdcoastlegend December 16, 2022 at 9:59 pm #

        It’s weird how many businesses the GenX high achievers named after the metal band, “Mastodon,” who are supposedly, “deep.”

      • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 3:40 pm #

        no way they are building Mastodon into anything big

        • Night Owl December 17, 2022 at 5:37 pm #

          Dunno. Just noticed lots of the McMedia one-stop prop. stops are shouting about how they are all going there.

    • Blackbird December 16, 2022 at 7:56 pm #

      Did Mary really say that, or are you lip-reading again?

      I think it’s too early to call Musk (I don’t know him as well as you do) Messiah or Antichrist – and my bet is that he is neither. My suspicion is that he works for the bad guys. I used to think he was one of the good guys. I may change my mind again.

      The Antichrist, well I do have a nominee for that position. My current interpretation is that the Antichrist is more institution than individual.

      • MaryQueen December 16, 2022 at 9:11 pm #

        Of course I never said that. It’s Jarek lying as usual.

        Of course Elon works for the bad guys. He’s been in their ranks his entire life.

      • Jarek December 16, 2022 at 10:41 pm #

        I did add in the caveat metaphorically. And she confirms that she does believe it in that sense though she denies it of course in order to spite me.

        I see you’re taking her at face value. A bad idea.

        • Blackbird December 16, 2022 at 11:53 pm #

          “I see you’re taking her at face value.”

          Put your glasses on JarJar.

          If Mary and I agree on your bestie Elon, well then it’s just another proof of that “Great minds…” theorem.

          But I do see where Mary slipped in the word “Antichrist” – just as you said – sideways, in the fold between the words “said” and “that”. Diabolical.

          You have the Gift JarJar, no doubt about it.

          • Jarek December 17, 2022 at 1:55 pm #

            You’ve taken too many drugs, buddy. You see what isn’t there and don’t see what is. I’m not talking physically necessarily (not excluding it either) but rather the Eye of the Mind as the Scholastics put it.

            I took just the right amount to develop my Eye of the Mind, to see infinity in a grain of sand, eternity in an hour – or split second.

          • MaryQueen December 18, 2022 at 10:36 am #

            But I did not ever say that Elon is the antichrist.

            Funny though that Jarek capitalizes that word. Almost a sign of homage, isn’t it?

          • MaryQueen December 18, 2022 at 10:37 am #

            Jarek brags about not taking drugs to ruin his ‘beautiful mind’ so there goes the last excuse for why he’s such a whacko.

          • Jarek December 18, 2022 at 1:29 pm #

            You said that he was the One or one of the main Ones behind it all, who will bring the world down.

            A metaphorical Antichrist. I did use the word metaphorical in my first post. Look it up if you don’t know what it means.

          • Blackbird December 18, 2022 at 9:08 pm #

            Entheogens have made my mind more enlightened, more supple, more adventurous – but “beautiful”?

            I heard Barbara Bush describe her mind as beautiful. She had never disgusted me until then.

            Drugs, like alcohol (the only one I’ve maintained a familiarity with) – they just make me stupid.

            I think someone – or something – as big and powerful as the Antichrist, has kinda earned a capital letter. You don’t go up against the Big C unless you’re a big leaguer too.

            But yeah, I didn’t even see the metaphorical one, JarJar was trying to point out.

            Jars, I’m disappointed you didn’t take my “institutional Antichrist” bait.

  41. Night Owl December 16, 2022 at 3:40 pm #

    Another good interview with Patrick Henningsen over on TNT this week. This time with lawyer Arnaud Develay from France.

    Covers the WEF/BIS activity and timeline to get the digital plantation in place, Macron’s work to destroy France’s energy independence, the lies used by the globo-nutters around resource depletion (oil, etc.), and much, much more.

    The interview is the second one in the list.

    https://tntradio.live/shows/patrick-henningsen-show/

  42. Edge Lord December 16, 2022 at 3:40 pm #

    It does not matter what you call it.
    Nor does it matter who you blame.

    Very powerful people, very wealthy people, some overrepresented more than others, some being used more and manipulated more than others: secret societies, “masons”, “communists”, Bilderburgs, Mr. Global, The Deep State, WEF, Club of Rome, are fulfilling whatever you would like to call it:

    The New Wold Order
    The Great Rest
    Communism
    The Protocols
    The Great Replacement
    Population Culling

    The end of the world as you know it yet you always knew it and most ignored it because they told you to

    • malthuss December 16, 2022 at 3:58 pm #

      That is quite a list, My Lord.

      • Edge Lord December 16, 2022 at 4:03 pm #

        You don’t have to check it twice
        It’s the naughty list

  43. K-Chien December 16, 2022 at 4:51 pm #

    Let the more-sciencey-than-thou to not pivot from Covid directly into climate change bullying just yet. No let us not do that.

    Lots of ‘splanin’ to do about the harassing of Dutch Farmers too. Follow my name link. I just wrote about it.

    No rest 4 the wicked.

  44. Roundball Shaman December 16, 2022 at 4:53 pm #

    “Truth And Consequences… for the first time in years, reality will have a chance to compete with the bad faith narratives of a regime at war against its own people. We’ll have to see how long this window remains open before the Intel Community tries to… blow it up.”

    The United States, Incorporated (a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Intel Community) has been turned into a National version of the old popular game show ‘Truth or Consequences’. This was a show that would ask someone a question that they wouldn’t be able to answer so then they would suffer some kind of consequences. You know, very unlike today when no one in the Dark State ever suffers consequences for anything.

    And so… ‘Truth or Consequences’ is not just the name of a town in Southern New Mexico any more. ‘T or C’ is the National consciousness of the American People.

    And what are the rules of this new, ‘Truth or Consequences’? The American People will never be told the Truth. And we will suffer nothing but Consequences. The Sad Game Show that never ends.

    “Dr. Anthony Fauci’s little trick so far to avoid answering questions about these matters was simply to not use the term ‘gain-of-function’… So when asked about gain-of-function, he could just lie with abandon.”

    And Doctor.. err… HUCKSTER Anthony Effing Fauci is certainly no Ralph Edwards. No truth from this little weasel and certainly no consequences for this Darling of the Dark State. He looks more like a deranged North Pole elf who spends too much time alone in the dark with the reindeer while doing bizarre experiments on Santa’s wife when Santa is making his yearly rounds. How it is, Mr. Claus, to entertain all of ‘The Science!’ in the whole World in your parlor in the Northworld? Or is it, in your Southworld?

    So the little rodent never says, ‘Gain of Function’? Good thinking, little elf. You have little to gain any more and you no longer serve any function.

    “What’s liable to come out of this uncorking of evil spirits in 2023 is a grotesque spewage of info about official corruption… You have to wonder how the nation will handle it…”

    The Nation will handle this like it handles everything else. The usual way to deal with bad news is to ignore it… eat some more pizza… turn on the game shows… and complain to the whole World on anti-social media about how bad things are and how miserable your life is. And that’s the Truth and Consequences of it all.

    • Edge Lord December 16, 2022 at 5:08 pm #

      The usual way one deals with bad news or unfavorable inputs is to take action to ameliorate, assuage, remedy, rectify, cease.

      These actions, however, require agency.

      We may fool ourselves by accepting an Aurelian tenet: accept that there are things beyond our control.

      Problem is that there are more and more things beyond control. More aptly: we control less for ourselves.

      And we deal with this through distractions.
      Even though we know who is to blame and who has control.

      Such is life for the defeated.

      • roccofire December 16, 2022 at 10:00 pm #

        Excellent points. I was reading an article once about how the right and left wingers have their ideas about powerful secret controlling groups running everything and how frightful both sides were when discussing the P.T.B. His fear was that no one was in control.

        JHK, Greetings our hospital continues at 117% occupancy rate. Remember folks bacteria, viruses, and the whole world of microbiology is real! Hey, JHK how does this effect Harry & Megan!

    • Jarek December 17, 2022 at 2:16 pm #

      Who mourns for the Beagles who had their dear faces eaten off by sand flies in his “experiment (ritual)? I do, but I’m not the only one.

  45. K-Chien December 16, 2022 at 4:54 pm #

    Ignore the above. I mismatched tags. In my own comment section on my page I made it possible to edit comments. You can’t do that here, but I like to use tags and making a mistake can make the mess on top.

    It should have been:

    Let the more-sciencey-than-thou to not pivot from Covid directly into climate change bullying just yet. No let us not do that.

    Lots of ‘splanin’ to do about the harassing of Dutch Farmers too. Follow my name link. I just wrote about it.

    No rest 4 the wicked.

    • Jarek December 17, 2022 at 2:55 pm #

      Why don’t you join us and the world will be as one?

      It can’t be united on the basis of lies, about covid or Blacks or anything else.

  46. bob December 16, 2022 at 5:10 pm #

    Reality and the Tao are one. Go against the Tao and suffer the consequences. The first noble truth of Buddhism is the reality of suffering. We ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and got our asses kicked out of the Garden into suffering. One really wonders how long the good times can last.

    • K-Chien December 16, 2022 at 5:20 pm #

      When oil can’t get squeezed out of rock anymore the good times will be gone.

      • Night Owl December 16, 2022 at 5:29 pm #

        Prove it.

        • JohnAZ December 16, 2022 at 6:59 pm #

          Hmmm.

          1960s. 25cents per gallon US and SA

          1970s. $1.50/gallon U.S. SA, Iran

          1980s. $2.00/gallon. US SA Iran Nigeria, Mexico Venezuela

          1990s. $ 2.00/gallon. Ditto

          2000s. $2.50/gallon. Ditto

          2005. JHK The Long Emergency published.

          2010s. $2.75/gallon. Deep water drilling started in US and Mexico, SA started water pumping to raise oil. Fracking started.

          2020s. $3.50/gallon so far average, inflationary pressure increasing, drilling suppressed, Got as high as $5.00/gallon, going higher.

          Supply increasing with technology, demand increasing with rising global economy.

          No one is re drilling anywhere except with water assist.

          • K-Chien December 16, 2022 at 7:11 pm #

            Thanks, nobody believes me. I once paid $0.17 a gallon in a gas war. Once upon a time a guy could take off and cruise fifty miles away on a whim. It let the stress out. At five bucks a gallon such whims are luxury.

            JHK used to squalk about $4 bucks a gallon being a choke point. Adjusting for inflation……….we are there.

          • Blackbird December 16, 2022 at 7:42 pm #

            I believe ya Dog. (Well, not “believe”, but consider it quite probable that your story is true.)

            I once rode past (my mom was driving, I was navigating) a gas station in NE Tennessee that advertised gas for $0.25/gallon. Even then (summer ’72 or ’73) I knew that was a deal. Hand-lettered sign on white metal. Really old-looking pumps. We drove on.

          • BackRowHeckler December 16, 2022 at 7:58 pm #

            No, K-Dog, I can bear witness, I’ve seen it myself as a little kid, 17c a gallon during local ‘Gas Wars’, a station on every corner, Esso vs Sunoco vs Shell vs Texaco, my father filling up for $2, real, pure LEADED gasoline that didn’t gum up the works and gave your Ford flathead V8 engine maximum burnout power. What’s more the attendant came out wearing a peaked cap and overalls sporting the company logo, pumped your gas, checked your oil –“You’re down a quart” — washed your windshield, and measured the air pressure in your tires.

            An ice cold coke in the machine out front will cost you 10c.

          • stelmosfire December 16, 2022 at 8:04 pm #

            The price of a gallon of gas has not changed much over the years. Adjusted for inflation. $3.40/1930, $3,72/1940,$3.31/1950, $3.04 /1960, $2.70/1970, $4.25/1980,$2.58/1990,$2.55/2000, $3.70/2010,$2.45/ 2020(Covid), today in my town down the street $2.95. Today’s cars are 2-3 times more efficient than those dinosaurs in the 50’s-60’s.

          • BackRowHeckler December 16, 2022 at 8:12 pm #

            Well Stelmo, cars today don’t have 4 barrel carburetors bolted on, and they aren’t pushing out 400 bhp.

          • stelmosfire December 16, 2022 at 9:21 pm #

            BRH, a decent Ford Explorer with a 3 liter (183 Cubic inches) is pushing 400 HP and 415 lb/ft torque. Probably much faster than most of the muscle cars plus it gets 28 miles to the gallons compared to 8or10.

          • thirdcoastlegend December 16, 2022 at 10:06 pm #

            Stelmo-

            The Explorer only makes those numbers with a turbo, which adds a lot of complex plumbing and an additional heat burden on the cooling system.

            I’m not against turbos, I drive a turbo’d car myself, but we must recognize their limitations and realize there is no free lunch.

            The really neat engine in Ford’s lineup is the twin-turbo 2.7L V6, which turns the Edge Sport into a real sleeper.

            They should drop the 2.7L into the Mustang, but they won’t because it would easily outperform the Coyote 5.0L V8, which is an excellent motor in its own right.

          • Night Owl December 17, 2022 at 3:45 am #

            That is called inflation and has nothing to do with a lack of supply.

            Short-term supply crunches do affect pricing, but short-term crunches are not from a lack of the ability to access oil. These sorts of increase are typically due to political turmoil, or OPEC greed.

          • BackRowHeckler December 17, 2022 at 5:32 am #

            “Probably faster than most muscle cars”-Stelmo

            Faster than a 1970 Plymouth Barracuda?

            The ‘Cuda’, with a 440 cu. in. V8 mopar hemi, 4 on the floor, with positrak and a bucket seat, pushing out well over 425 horses, RIGHT OUT OF THE SHOWROOM, for less than $4000.

            Burning that pure LEADED GAS, 25 centavos a gallon, aka Rocket Fuel, which was liquid gold.

            Those were the days.

          • stelmosfire December 17, 2022 at 8:33 am #

            “most” muscle cars. Anyway, where can I get a 440 Hemi? I’ll put it on my lawnmower.

          • Disaffected December 17, 2022 at 10:56 am #

            The 440 was a wedge motor, by the way. Most considered it superior to the much more rare, expensive, large, and heavy 426 Hemi for street use, as the Hemi was designed primarily for high RPM NASCAR use, while the 440 wedge was much more torquey down low, which is where most street races are won or lost.

            I foolishly leased a 2017 Dodge Hellcat (6.2L, 378 CID, 707HP, 650 ft/lb torque) Challenger a few years back for two years. Biggest waste of money in my entire life! The horsepower was mostly useless for lack of traction under the best of conditions, and what was usable was downright dangerous, as the car was squirrely as hell under anything close to full throttle and totally undrivable altogether in the winter. Wore out a set of tires and brakes in under 10K miles. I was so glad to get rid of that beast!

          • stelmosfire December 17, 2022 at 12:13 pm #

            Dis, My Dad had a retired police car a 1970-71 I think Ford Galaxie with the Ford 429 “semi-hemi” also used in the Mustang Boss 429 Scary fast for a new driver like myself. It was Black with a white roof and still had the pillar spot light on it. From the wiki:

            “The 429 4v was still the top engine, while the police-only versions received a new 370 hp 429 ‘Police Interceptor’ as their new top offering”

          • Night Owl December 17, 2022 at 12:28 pm #

            Dis, most things with over 500 horsepower are going AWD these days.

            New M5 has over 600. I test drove one for shits and giggles before buying a 540i. Even in the 540, with a set of 275s on the rear and AWD, I could easily do burn outs or get some squiggles when booting it round corners.

            The M5 would have been pointless with RWD only outside of high-speed runs on the Autobahn.

          • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 3:45 pm #

            I remember when it went up to 11 cents a litre. My dad was pissed.
            It must have been a jump, although I know not from what.
            I must have been ten or so.
            I can even remember where.

          • Disaffected December 17, 2022 at 4:02 pm #

            stelmos: Yes, the Boss 429 was quite an engine and an original Boss 429 in top shape and fully restored will easily bring you high 6 figures (at least) at auction these days.

            NO: Yes, the horsepower wars have yielded incredible gains in the past few years, as the ICE engine reaches it’s full potential with modern computerization controlling ignition events and allowing super high compression ratios.

            But I knew the Hellcat was less than useless when the Tesla’s first got popular, though. Not much range (for either car), but for instant acceleration around town, it was simply no contest. The Hellcat for all its bluster and curb appeal, couldn’t get out of its own way in comparison. Shoot, even a lowly Prius could beat it for 30 ft under normal driving conditions where less than perfect traction is the norm.

            The Hellcat really was a Boomer car, cashing in on our nostalgia for the “good ol’ days.” Most of the current day kids I know thought it was ridiculous, and I think they were right in their assessment. Its best use was sitting in the driveway as a “trophy car,” which is how most of its buyers actually used it.

          • Night Owl December 17, 2022 at 5:35 pm #

            Interesting on the Hellcat. I always wondered what they drove like given the insane level of power.

            The numbers are absolutely comical.

          • elysianfield December 17, 2022 at 5:42 pm #

            Saint,
            On the OPD, we, in Special Duty, drove 65-66 Plymouth Belvederes…four door, unmarked. Engine was a 318 with, as I recall, a two barrel carb. They were essentially fleet vehicles. Usual top speed was approximately 95 miles per hour. Chased more than a few 442’s and GTOs…never lost a contest.

          • Disaffected December 17, 2022 at 6:27 pm #

            NO: When I went to sell the Hellcat (I could either sell it outright and pay off the lease, trade it in, or turn it in at the end of the lease period, with the last option likely being the worst) I found out the hard way like a lot of guys just like me that the market was flooded with low mileage cars like mine that the owners were getting rid of for similar reasons. I ended up trading it in for a Mazda CX-5, as that was likely the best deal I was going to get. Haven’t looked back since, as I rarely drive 5K miles a year anyway (still under 10K on a 2019 model). The Mazda is plenty peppy around town and infinitely more practical to boot, not to mention I no longer have a dayglow target painted on my back driving that monster Hellcat.

          • Night Owl December 18, 2022 at 4:10 am #

            Crazy.

            Yeah, we don’t drive much either (about 10k kms a year), but given the quality of the B-roads here, the unlimited sections on the Autobahns and my love of driving, I still need something reasonably performance oriented.

  47. malthuss December 16, 2022 at 7:20 pm #

    the price of honey. [I just got a pound for 10 dollars].
    the price of the best cooking oil.
    the price of a house.

    I CANNOT TAKE IT.

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder December 16, 2022 at 9:30 pm #

      I hear ya.

      Have you priced eggs recently?

      Local non-soy-fed generic – $4.49
      Local Organic – $7.99

      7 freakin’ .99

      It’s like it’s 2047 or something.

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder December 16, 2022 at 9:32 pm #

        I forgot to add:

        Generic GMO crap eggs – $2.99

        • Disaffected December 17, 2022 at 9:31 am #

          Get the “Happy Eggs” brand. You’ll never turn back, regardless of the price.

        • elysianfield December 17, 2022 at 12:11 pm #

          Mango,
          …I like the generics…No GMO crap egg ever called me “nigger”….

      • Night Owl December 17, 2022 at 3:47 am #

        All by design.

        Will be interesting to see how bad it gets here in Europe once WEF puppet Rutte has shut down 3,000 Dutch farms.

        Holland more or less feeds Europe.

        • BackRowHeckler December 17, 2022 at 1:10 pm #

          Owl, to pick up an earlier thread …

          Have you ever gone balls-in, pedal to the metal up on the Autobahn. No speed limit if I’m not mistaken?

          • Night Owl December 17, 2022 at 3:13 pm #

            Yeah. There are sections that are unlimited, though they are fewer now than when I first moved here.

            Fastest I have gone is about 240. My faster cars have all been limited to 250 (C63, 540i).

            If you own something really crazy, it is possible to get the limiter raised from the factory to 270 or even 300 for something like a Lamborghini.

            I can’t really imagine going over 250 on a public road though. It is relatively safe when clear, but if a tire blows, or something unexpected happens at those speeds (a Dacia pulling out in front of you), then you are in deep shit.

            Took me a while to learn to judge braking distances when bombing down the left lane. I won’t buy any car that doesn’t have an M-sport or AMG-level (or equivalent) braking system now. T

          • Night Owl December 17, 2022 at 3:14 pm #

            Those numbers are, ofc, in km/h. And I should mention that most of the time in the city, I put around in eco-pro mode as 103 octane gas costs an arm and a leg. 🙂

          • BackRowHeckler December 17, 2022 at 3:57 pm #

            103 octane? I think here High Octane is at 94.

            97 octane tops for guys who race stock cars at local tracks.

          • Night Owl December 17, 2022 at 5:30 pm #

            Slight correction: The Aral stations have 102 “Super Plus” and Shell has V-Power 100.

            The Shell stuff actually seems to work in the BMW. Feels even quicker whenever I run it.

          • BackRowHeckler December 17, 2022 at 5:58 pm #

            Thanks for the back & forth, Owl. Very informative and enjoyable.

          • stelmosfire December 17, 2022 at 9:17 pm #

            BRH, Europe uses a differant octane rating system than the USA, Their 100 is about equal to our 93

          • Night Owl December 18, 2022 at 4:06 am #

            Stelmo, only half true —

            A simple conversion formula is RON x .95.

            This means Euro 102 is about 97 in US-speak, and 100 is about 95.

          • BackRowHeckler December 18, 2022 at 9:14 am #

            Huh, I learn something every day on this board.

      • Anthea December 18, 2022 at 9:34 am #

        My daughter has (I think) twenty-four hens, and she gives me more eggs than I can eat. She recently gave four dozen eggs to her in-laws’ family. But the cost of feed has gone up, and I don’t know what her costs are. We both have frozen and water-glassed eggs set aside, as we expected the hens to stop laying during the winter. (So far, they’re still going strong.) I have just about lost my taste for eggs, though I used to have eggs for breakfast every day.

        Last spring, before my daughter bought all those hens, I used to buy the Fit Hen brand of eggs from Walmart. They are as good as my daughter’s eggs, and they were $4 a dozen.

        • stelmosfire December 18, 2022 at 7:03 pm #

          Anthea, Do eggs freeze well? when thawed what are they suitable for?

  48. MrMangoOnMyShoulder December 16, 2022 at 9:29 pm #

    I’d just like to point out that, culturally speaking, JHK’s coining (I presume?) and continued use of quotes around the name “Joe Biden” is ingenious.

    That little detail says so much without having to say it.

    • Night Owl December 17, 2022 at 3:57 am #

      I agree. The whole point is that Joe Biden is not the one running the show.

    • MaryQueen December 17, 2022 at 10:31 am #

      I liked when he called him Hologram Joe, too.

  49. tom clark December 16, 2022 at 9:35 pm #

    Benr’s right. I will keep my mother fucking mouth shut and shall not speak again tc

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder December 16, 2022 at 9:48 pm #

      Oh, Tom…c’mon man. 5 inches of snow and you shut down and give in to the darkness of the world? The trees are beautiful out there.

      • Night Owl December 17, 2022 at 4:00 am #

        Indeed. We are heading to a medieval Christmas market with the kid today.

        https://www.burgsatzvey.de/

        I love freezing my ass off Middle Ages style with a mug of Glühwein.

        • Hereward the Woke December 17, 2022 at 10:10 am #

          Are the prices medieval too, Night Owl?

          • Night Owl December 17, 2022 at 12:23 pm #

            That they were not 🙁

    • Disaffected December 17, 2022 at 8:59 am #

      lil’ t’s in another one of his typical bi-polar trough cycles again, I see. Buck up and get back on your meds, lil’ t!

  50. messianicdruid December 16, 2022 at 10:28 pm #

    Chlorine Dioxide – if they are agin it I’m for it.

    theuniversalantidote.com

    • spaingaroo December 17, 2022 at 5:48 pm #

      I have been in production for the last month or so. We are all on it, myself and all the animals. I put it in the drinking water.
      Also DMSO for every acute event

      • Anthea December 18, 2022 at 9:42 am #

        I didn’t know that you could take DMSO internally. I have some that I bought for external use for arthritis, but most directions make a big fuss about absolute cleanliness, as DMSO is commonly used for transdermal delivery of drugs. The idea is that any contaminants on the skin will wind up in the bloodstream. They even tell you not to put your clothes back on until the DMSO application has dried (about 20 minutes).

        • spaingaroo December 19, 2022 at 12:30 pm #

          yeah, I believe them too.
          But I read the book on it, available online.
          Internally also works.
          I have taken it a few times myself, half a teaspoon or so in a glass of water.
          Makes the water warm up, it’s weird stuff.
          To give it to the dogs I just put drops onto the spoonfuls of tinned food that they get for coming home from our walks.
          Cured the ones with irritated skin almost straight away.

  51. tom clark December 16, 2022 at 11:19 pm #

    Mango…you are correct, sir. Trees are beautiful. Wifey took some pix and I believe posted on facebook. I’m not a user, so I wouldn’t know.

    • Blackbird December 16, 2022 at 11:57 pm #

      “I will keep my mother fucking mouth shut and shall not speak again tc”

      Eternity – it’s gettin’ shorter all the time.

      But wait – you did this with your fingers, didn’t you?

      • MaryQueen December 17, 2022 at 12:39 am #

        You beat me to it.

  52. Q. Shtik December 17, 2022 at 12:42 am #

    Current temp in Yakutsk, Russ is -48F and going down to -62F. Whew!

    • K-Chien December 17, 2022 at 1:30 am #

      In Yakutsk, there is plenty to do. There’s a Museum of Mammoths, housing whole mammoth carcasses buried by avalanches or floods and pulled from permafrost.

    • BackRowHeckler December 17, 2022 at 5:55 am #

      Huh, how are Polar Ice Caps melting with temps at -62°F?

      This corresponds with my own half assed Climate Change research, which consists of looking for evidence of sea level rise at coastal areas I’ve been visiting for decades (and finding no evidence of sea level rise)

      Often times when l hear polar ice is melting I’ll check temps in the Arctic & Antarctic. Typically, the temp at the South Pole Weather Station will be about -75°F, and the North Pole -20°F. The North is always warmer for some reason, but still plenty cold. I suspect in Antartica the video of glaciers crashing into the sea — a staple of Climate Change Agit/Prop along with stranded Polar Bears — is the result of underwater volcanic activity in the southern oceans.

      • stelmosfire December 17, 2022 at 8:45 am #

        “The North is always warmer for some reason” It’s all about elevation. North Pole basically at sea level. South Pole land surface elevation is 300 ft. But the ice is 9.000 ft thick! so much higher= much colder. Where I sit the ice was a mile thick just a few years ago in geological terms. I’ll take a couple degrees warmer instead of that.

        • Islander December 17, 2022 at 9:52 am #

          Also, there is no land at all under the Arctic ice sheet.

          • Islander December 17, 2022 at 9:53 am #

            Except at the edges where it includes the northerly edges of continents, and Greenland.

          • JohnAZ December 17, 2022 at 11:02 am #

            Also, much more dark colored land in the northern hemisphere, and many many more cities to increase the heat.

            So?

      • benr December 17, 2022 at 9:43 am #

        Volcanoes it’s melting from below.

        • JohnAZ December 17, 2022 at 11:06 am #

          Benr

          You may have something here. Not just at the edges of the ice zones either. Increasing volcanic activity at depth may be heating the oceans in total, causing ice flow erosion at the poles. Mauna Loa erupting, eruptions in Iceland may be indicators that the mid ocean ridges and hot spots are heating up.

          Wonder if anyone is observing?

    • Disaffected December 17, 2022 at 9:34 am #

      You’ve really got the bit between your teeth with this Yakutsk thing, Q. Are you planning on sending your BIL Peter on a permanent vacation there?

      • BackRowHeckler December 17, 2022 at 11:02 am #

        Q be sending Peter out to Yatsutsk on a Ruggers sponsored expedition searching for the mythical Zebra Bear, a Black & Polar Bear mix, bring one back to Jersey City.

      • JohnAZ December 17, 2022 at 11:11 am #

        Anyone who has played Risk knows where Yakutsk is, also Irkutsk.

    • Islander December 17, 2022 at 6:14 pm #

      Re Yakutsk,
      The Republic of Yakutia, if it were a separate country, would be the eighth-largest country in the world.

      It has ca. 1 million inhabitants.

      • Jarek December 18, 2022 at 1:35 pm #

        Tell them about the Siberian land that the Russian Communists gave the Jews – but they weren’t interested. They wanted Palestine.

        Why not give it to White refugees?

  53. BackRowHeckler December 17, 2022 at 8:32 am #

    Polar Bear Population, 1965: 7000, estimated

    Polar Bear Population, 2022: upwards of 30,000, estimated

    An international treaty agreement banning the hunting of Polar Bears enacted in the 1970s seems to have made the difference. Polar Bear territory has also expanded to the extent they are encroaching on Grizz territory, or so I’ve read.

    • Disaffected December 17, 2022 at 8:53 am #

      Polar Bears prowling CT: 0 – yet!

      You better bar the door if they make it down your way, brh. Them Polar’s are some real aggressive bad asses.

      • stelmosfire December 17, 2022 at 9:05 am #

        It’s only a matter of time before the Polar Bears interbreed with our New England Black Bears and we’ll have giant mutant striped bears rummaging around in the garbage cans,

        • JohnAZ December 17, 2022 at 9:47 am #

          Zebears

          • JohnAZ December 17, 2022 at 11:14 am #

            The arrogance of Man that he thinks he can really beat evolution.

            Do you think that polar Bears enlarged their territory South during the last