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For years, it was easy to see the political storm clouds gather over Europe with its fractious coalitions and its ancient babble of conflicts. Marine Le Pen’s Daddy, severe old Jean-Marie, was on the scene in France decades before Donald Trump ascended to glory on the noxious clouds of America’s crapified culture, attended by heavenly hosts of Kardashian angels and the cherub Honey BooBoo.

For all the strains in recent American life, the two-party system had seemed as solid as the granite towers of the Brooklyn Bridge. Not even the estimable Teddy Roosevelt could blow up the system when he tried in 1912 — though his Progressive (“Bull Moose”) Party carried California, Pennsylvania, and Minnesota, and he far out-polled the incumbent Republican President Taft, who garnered a measly 8 electoral votes (Democrat Woodrow Wilson won). Ross Perot made an impact in 1992 — he certainly had a good point about NAFTA and “the giant sucking sound” of jobs draining out of the USA. But his popinjay manner didn’t go over so well, and at the critical moment in the general election he lost his nerve and withdrew, only to foolishly re-enter weeks later. Then there was the Ralph Nader in 2000, whose egoistic crusade arguably put George W. Bush in the White House.

Since then, the country see-sawed between the long tenures of two Deep State errand boys from each major party, putting both parties in such a bad odor that Trump now rises on their mephitic fumes. Which raises the question, of course: what exactly is this Deep State? Answer: A leviathan of symbiotic rackets producing maximum incompetence affecting adversely the majority of citizens. It’s a blood-sucking beast of a hundred-thousand heads draining the USA of its dwindling vitality, lying about its intentions while it advertises the pietistic certainties of the Left and superstitious shibboleths of the Right, leaving a smoking hole in the middle where the practical problems of everyday life used to be worked out by practical means.

The Deep State is also the sum of unintended consequences and diminishing returns of a late-stage, bureaucratic, techno-industrial economy cannibalizing itself to stay alive. One obvious conclusion is that this economy has got to change before there is nothing left to eat, and no political figure on the scene, including Trump and Bernie Sanders, has a plausible vision of where this takes us. Both really just assume that the engine keeps chugging down the track of ever more material wealth that can be distributed differently. The truth is, there will be a lot less material wealth of the kind we’re used to, and a lot less capital representation in the things we call “money.” In fact, the scene at hand today is just a spectacle of the shrewdest and biggest rodents scarfing up the table-scraps of a 200-year-long banquet.

Hillary Clinton, of course, is the Deep State incarnate, which is the real reason so few citizens trust her. Every poor schnook getting shaken down for a $90,000 appendectomy bill looks at Hillary and knows exactly what she represents. Every 25-year-old jobless, couch-surfing millennial carrying fifty-grand in college debt sees the face of the Deep State in her self-satisfied demi-smile. Mainly, she has gulled the diversity pimps — because they are wards of the Deep State — and women, because it’s Mommy’s “turn” to direct the Deep State. Writer, financier, and Deep State rogue operative Jim Rickards keeps insisting that Uncle Joe Biden will end up as the Democratic nominee. (He said so in a Tweet just the other day). You have to wonder what this guy knows. Don’t suppose that Uncle Joe is the knight on a white horse you’ve been waiting for. After all, he’s vice-president of the Deep State.

Voters seem attracted to Trump because he’s so eager to give the finger to the Deep State. It deserves the finger, but it also needs to be carefully disassembled without blowing up what remains of this country. Trump already has a good start on blowing up the Republican Party. Never before have so many party officials dissociated themselves from the (so far) presumptive nominee. I expect to see more extreme measures against Trump to be yet attempted by the party mandarins in the two months before the convention. I doubt you will hear about them before they happen.

In the face of that, Trump’s behavior only gets more childish. His speech after the Indiana primary was a masterpiece of incoherence. Everything that reflected on the magnificence of his victory was “incredible.” Interestingly, that was exactly the right word. He’s tuned in to the national nervous breakdown underway. From time to time, when he’s not speaking emptily about how much he is loved, Trump voices some legitimate concern of the Deep State’s victims. There are few decent jobs outside the Deep State’s own rackets. We’re not obliged to take in a limitless stream of immigrants. Nation-building by military means has been a dismal failure. The national debt is a problem. The country’s infrastructure is decrepit. Trump says he can negotiate a fix to all this: the art of the deal. Blowing smoke up the Deep State’s ass is not a plan.

The tragedy is that no other serious, grown-up figures stepped forward in this dangerous moment of history. The party that Trump purports to represent lost itself in a wilderness of grift, jingoism, and supernatural pettifoggery. The rival Democratic Party is high on the fumes of “diversity and inclusion,” kindergarten politics that only corrode what’s left of our tattered common culture. Hillary’s Deep State couldn’t have found a better diversionary subterfuge. Both parties are close to blowing up altogether. I’m not convinced that they’ll survive their own conventions this summer. Then what?

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462 Responses to “Trumptopia”

  1. sprezzatura May 9, 2016 at 9:18 am #

    Anyone who is smart, sane and qualified to run for president, would never submit to the circus that the election campaign has become.

    • Neon Vincent May 9, 2016 at 9:38 am #

      Bernie Sanders is trying. He won Indiana at the same time Trump won and Cruz dropped out. He’s likely to win all the states, if not all the contests, between now and June 7 (Hillary will win the caucuses in the territories and commonwealths). That won’t be enough; I expect Clinton will win enough delegates next month to put her over the top.

      Speaking of not enough, I had to revisit Cruz’s and Kasich’s capitulation as an episode of the “Hungry for Power Games.” How appropriate–a post-apocalyptic dystopian reality show as the format to cover our current election!

      • wpa_ccc May 9, 2016 at 12:05 pm #

        “He’s likely to win all the states, if not all the contests, between now and June 7”

        Bernie is likely to win 25 of the 50 states.

        • abbybwood May 9, 2016 at 1:28 pm #

          According to Sanders neither he nor Clinton will be going to the convention in Philly the end of July with the necessary amount of “pledged” delegates to win on the first ballot without the “Super” delegates stepping in and taking her over the top.

          A whole lot of shit can happen between today and July 26th.

          Clinton can be indicted or Comey and Co. can resign and leak the indictment Attorney General Lynch and President Obama refuse to agree with.

          Other nastiness against “Crooked Hillary” can come out.

          Sanders could win the big prize in California on June 7th.

          The point is this: By the beginning of the convention in Philly the “Super” delegates may have to re-think their support for Hillary Clinton realizing that Donald Trump will be spending the next three months publicly indicting her before the entire world directing all those who agree with him to CONVICT her on Election Day. I am a Democrat who will NEVER vote for Clinton:


          Not a pretty picture for those “Super” Delegates to envision.

          OR….they could decide to put Sanders over the top with their votes and make Trump face “Honest Bernie” for the next three months realizing he beats Trump easily in double digits.

          They can save the party with Sanders and The White House and the down ballot races or they can burn the sucker down with “Crooked Hillary”.

          If I were a “Super” delegate, this would be a no-brainer for me.

          And if they stick with Clinton and she loses in November they and only they will be blamed for the Democrats losing The White House.

          Just as that poor, stupid woman was blamed (it wasn’t Nader’s fault) in Florida for devising the “Butterfly Ballot” causing THOUSANDS of retired Democrats in Dade County to accidentally vote for Pat Buchanan rather than Gore.

          It was those votes for Buchanan by loyal Democrats that put Bush over the top by a few hundred votes, not Nader voters.

          Even Pat Buchanan was shocked!

          • noel bodie May 9, 2016 at 2:31 pm #

            Abby, ok one more time….SCOTUS is the only prize for 2016…..if the blues win the senate and the reds hold the house then nothing legislatively will get done. The big action will be in the court and the next prez will get 3 nominees that will have the potential to change the country for a generation. By not voting for HRC you run the very real risk of putting 3 more “Scalias” on the court. If you purists blues allow that then all I can say is “you can’t fix stupid”

          • otheym May 9, 2016 at 4:13 pm #

            Here is my prediction: Hillary gets indicted by FBI. Hillary gets nomination anyway as none of her supporters believe the FBI. Hillary unveils Bill Clinton as running mate to adoring crowd of supporters. We are truly doomed.

          • tarkus856 May 11, 2016 at 12:30 am #

            “it wasn’t Nader’s fault”

            abby, I am one of those who did vote for Nader in 2000, so I appreciate your comments.

            Moreover, why does everybody seem to forget that Al Gore lost Tennessee? His freakin’ Home State of Tennessee!!!

            That’s why Gore lost; not because of Nader…

      • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 3:05 pm #


        Bad news if true. This will lose Trump some desperate Democrat votes.

        • outsider May 10, 2016 at 7:39 am #

          Janos, that would be far and away the oldest presidential ticket in our history, with a mean age of well over seventy. Bernie’s even too old to be a boomer. There is a chance that, if elected, they’ll both die in office. I really can’t see Hillary picking a man several years older than her, and a New Englander to boot. Unless she’s indicted first, I can see her picking a woman. She believes in female superiority anyway.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 10, 2016 at 3:31 pm #

            What does being a New Englander have to do with it? Are they (we) not liked? It may well be true. The North won the War and the Cultural Revolution, but the South won the hearts of the people throughout much of the West.

            As a Copper Head, I can only grieve my fate.

      • Frankiti May 9, 2016 at 4:51 pm #

        He is a socialist career politician in an inconsequential state, in other words; not sane and not qualified

  2. malthuss May 9, 2016 at 9:24 am #

    A criminal black (originally from Jamaica, father of seven) here in NJ was stopped at 2am Saturday night and decided to shoot it out with the cops.
    They shot him dead but the local minister “Buster” Soares wants to know WHY he was stopped and WHY information was leaked to the press about former arrests for drugs and a shooting incident.

    Minister, He wants a federal investigation. Local press treating it like he was a Navy Seal. No, that’s wrong. Coverage was front page and more sympathetic than for the death of an American patriot.
    Why even mention the shooting?

    p.s.–I left a note for you last night, in last weeks thread.

    • Q. Shtik May 9, 2016 at 11:11 am #

      A criminal black (originally from Jamaica, father of seven) here in NJ – Malthuss


      I thought you lived in Southern Calif. Your use of the word here leads me to believe you are now in NJ. Did you move to NJ?

      • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 3:15 pm #

        I thought he was in Wisconsin for the same reason. Maybe you two could now meet and make and report your impressions of each other for the community at large.

        • malthuss May 10, 2016 at 2:06 pm #

          I would like to emigrate [is that the word?] BUT WHERE TO GO?

          • Q. Shtik May 10, 2016 at 4:07 pm #

            Iceland……….. but the spelling is difficult.

          • Elrond Hubbard May 10, 2016 at 8:05 pm #


            ‘Make dating great again’: For singles looking for love and a move to Canada if Trump becomes president

            C’mon up, Janos, I’ll make an honest woman of ya!

    • Beryl of Oyl May 9, 2016 at 12:17 pm #

      I notice our AG is in a fight with the Rensselaer County DA over the Rensselaer DA’s handling of the shooting of an unarmed (unless you consider the automobile he drove into the cop a weapon) man by a policeman in Troy.
      He and Cuomo, who was also AG, did not notice the corruption of Dean Skelos and Sheldon Silver, when it was well within their jurisdiction, but this, another man’s job, a job he was elected to do by the people, they are all over it, after the fact.

  3. orbit7er May 9, 2016 at 9:33 am #

    As usual it is baffling how Kunstler can say “The tragedy is that no other serious, grown-up figures stepped forward in this dangerous moment of history.” which is totally ignoring Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein. Bernie Sanders, although not as full bore into the Green Transition as Jill Stein and the Greens has supported High Speed Rail and public transit revitalization, the end to fracked oil, a carbon tax, an end to fossil fuel production on public lands, major cuts in the endless Wars to instead fund the infrastructure we need. Bernie has long supported the end of Wall Street’s financial vampires reign over our economy and by allying with Ron Paul go the first public audit EVER of the private bi-bank controlled Federal Reserve system.
    The only part of Bernie’s program where Kunstler differs is immigration but I am also sure Bernie opposes the H1B sham.
    Why Kunstler continues to diss Bernie Sanders is baffling.
    For years Sanders has championed all the important policies Kunstler says he supports.
    As far as recognizing the end of material growth, the Greens have been talking about this for a while now and Jill Stein totally realizes this reality along the Naomi Klein. As Naomi Klein points out we are NOT just going to fuel Happy Motoring and endless materialism with renewable energy but we CAN fashion a reasonable and actually better life with shared public transit, schools, parks, libraries rather than privatized redundant materialism for those dwindling few who can afford it.

    • Neon Vincent May 9, 2016 at 9:43 am #

      I agree with you about Jill Stein. However, the candidate to watch will actually be likely Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson, who will probably be on all 50 state ballots and is polling at 11% but is usually left off of polls. CNN has an interview of him, touting him as Gary Johnson: GOP Trump Alternative? I can already tell this will be a good year for minor parties.

      • Florida Power May 9, 2016 at 11:19 am #

        I voted for Gary Johnson last time around for what that was worth. In Florida not much.

        This time around IF Trump becomes the GOP nominee versus Hilary, I will punch the paper ballot for The Donald. If Bernie Sanders were the GOP nominee I’d do the same for him. This year I, and I perceive many others, are single-issue voters: Not Hilary.

        Re JHK comments, Rickards explained in an interview that he, being a lawyer, had some familiarity with the law and the way that the Legal Racket grinds its gears and concludes Hilary will undoubtedly be indicted. He admits to no insider information.

        Biden’s dental work is as good as Obama’s and our presidents must have a good smile, especially as they blend gradually with the Deep State wallpaper in the White House. All that is left in public memory, like the Cheshire Cat, is the smile.

        • Beryl of Oyl May 9, 2016 at 12:20 pm #

          I’m wondering why the Trump bashers, if they feel so strongly about what he’s doing, didn’t step up themselves, so he didn’t have to.
          Gee, he wants jobs for Americans and for us to stay out of wars unless it’s vitally necessary. We can’t have that. His hair is funny and he’s vulgar.

          • draupnir May 9, 2016 at 3:03 pm #

            The Donald has nothing on LBJ, who was so vulgar he was known to slap his dick on a table and invite other men to compare. I guess he was impressive.

      • Frankiti May 9, 2016 at 4:58 pm #

        Gary Johnson is a flake. He was on the radio giggling while repeating the old chestnuts; can’t deport 11 million, they’re hard workers, doing jobs we won’t do… condescending, smug, and worthless as a candidate.

    • venuspluto67 May 9, 2016 at 9:49 am #

      WRT Bernie Sanders: The sad truth is that attaching the word “socialist” in any sense (and the word can mean so many, many things) to yourself in this country is a lot like wearing a blue Mao-cap with red star on it as far as an awful lot of people in this country are concerned, which really sucks.

      • Elrond Hubbard May 9, 2016 at 11:09 am #

        I agree with you about the word “socialist”, but the encouraging thing is that we are actually seeing that fact changing right here, right now. It has taken 60 years since the red scares of the McCarthy era, but the ice is finally breaking before our eyes.

        • Anotherplayaguy May 9, 2016 at 12:39 pm #

          The change is in the works. More than half of Millennials say Capitalism the way it is structured in this country is a failure. More than half. When the old guard dies off …

          • Helix May 9, 2016 at 4:46 pm #

            When the old guard dies off, the millenials will step into their shoes so fast no one will know there was a change.

            The boomers knew that Capitalism the way it’s structured in this country was a few notches off even in the 1960s, and the progressives knew it even before then at the turn of the 20th century. What we’re seeing now is just one more turn of the same old screw.

          • Frankiti May 9, 2016 at 7:57 pm #

            They are correct. Capitalism in its present form treats money as a commodity. It is the lifeblood. It is food It is water. It is medicine. It is a staple. We would never allow people to hoard masses of food, water, medicine (the barriers to medicine as a commodity are under attack as we speak) to the detriment of others or civilization as a whole, but we make the exception with money. Inculcated at a young age and throughout life, Americans and some western counterparts firmly believe that wealth accumulation is a right. It is the American way. It is what “we” fought for and will die for. A person can hoard as much money as possible and does so not with stigma, but with applause. People seldom see things for what they are, it hurts.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 2:01 pm #

          Why are you putting the word in quotation marks? It doesn’t exist? Or it never existed? But let’s be clear: his background is Communist and Communism has killed hundreds of millions of people. Has he disavowed that or distanced himself? The new homegrown Communism is Political Correctness. Bernie subscribes to that as witnessed by his submission to the evil BLM movement.

          • Elrond Hubbard May 9, 2016 at 4:31 pm #

            Why are you putting the word in quotation marks?

            Google ‘use-mention distinction’.

            [Sanders’] background is Communist and Communism has killed hundreds of millions of people.

            Sanders is a democratic socialist, not a communist. And he’s in good company describing himself that way. George Orwell wrote in 1946: “Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it.” Orwell understood the distinction between democratic socialism and totalitarian Bolshevism very well indeed; he nearly fell victim to the latter while fighting for the former in Spain. Here’s the link:


            Black Lives Matter is a movement of people who are well aware that being guilty of anything is largely irrelevant in whether you get targeted by the police. Lynching (extrajudicial execution under color of law) is alive and well; they just have the nerve to complain about it.

          • Helix May 9, 2016 at 4:48 pm #

            Like, capitalism hasn’t killed hundreds of millions of people as well?

          • shotho May 9, 2016 at 5:31 pm #

            So, Mr. Hubbard, if democratic socialism is truly democratic, then, if democratic socialism is defeated in a fair election by capitalism, democratic socialism would step aside. Is that how it works? If so, maybe we should try it. The Bern versus The Don – bring it on.

          • venuspluto67 May 9, 2016 at 6:17 pm #

            @Elrond: Thanks for the helping hand, but I think the best way to deal with Nazi trolls is to just ignore them as much as possible.

          • Majella May 9, 2016 at 6:18 pm #

            To call Bernie Sanders a Communist (with a capital C, no less) is so far from the reality of his political position as to be fucking LAUGHABLE!

            To accuse Communism of ‘killing millions’ is correct, but it begs the question – how many millions have been victim of the Capitalist west’s system? You don’t have to look far… will Janos ‘disavow’ that???

          • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 6:19 pm #

            As you well know, many Communists hide behind Socialism, knowing well how decent people loathe Communism. Unless he had disavowed it, as Orwell did, he probably still is it as this reporter found.


          • Elrond Hubbard May 9, 2016 at 7:52 pm #

            venuspluto67: Sometimes the temptation is just too great. I won’t leave Janos in particular unanswered — not for his own sake, since he’s a lost cause, but for the greater good. Trolls in general rely on people either being too intimidated to take them on or just giving up in disgust. I want to at least be able to say that I took my own side in a fight.

          • BackRowHeckler May 10, 2016 at 4:24 am #

            how’s socialism working out in Venezuela?

            I don’t see Michael Moore or Sean Penn going for a visit anymore.

            If you do go bring your own toilet paper, because they don’t have any.

            there are a few other socialist paradises that need examining, too. I doubt Cuba will be socialist much longer.


          • elysianfield May 10, 2016 at 11:34 am #

            Lynching…I was involved in one in California.

          • Elrond Hubbard May 10, 2016 at 10:41 pm #

            elysianfield: Lynching…I was involved in one in California.

            Oh dear. What happened?

          • elysianfield May 10, 2016 at 11:34 pm #

            What happened? We recovered the prisoner and arrested a segment of the crowd involved.

            CA Penal Code § 405a (2013)

            The taking by means of a riot of any person from the lawful custody of any peace officer is a lynching.

        • abbybwood May 9, 2016 at 5:28 pm #

          Don’t forget that Social Security and Medicare are “socialist” programs and Americans are generally happy with them.

          Even the “Tea Party” rally attendees many years ago were holding signs, “Hands off my Medicare!” “Hands off my Social Security!”

          Most Americans support a single payer “Medicare for All” health care system. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump went there. He keeps saying “We’ll repeal and replace Obamacare where everybody is covered and it will be truly affordable.”

          Medicare for All is the only system I know of that can deliver on that promise.

          In a poll a few days ago 57% agreed with Trump on his “America First” theme.

          These does not bode well for Clinton and her Neocon dreams of regime change in Syria and Iran.

        • sharonsj May 12, 2016 at 7:53 pm #

          I disagree. To any GOPer, every Dem is a Socialist.

          Meanwhile, re Bernie winning California: a post elsewhere by someone in L.A. says all he sees are signs that say “Bernie or Bust” and “Anybody but Hillary.”

      • Beryl of Oyl May 9, 2016 at 12:27 pm #

        I like a lot about Bernie, but he makes outdated remarks about deodorant brands having something to do with being able to afford going to the doctor. The reality is, when you go to buy personal care products, or any products, for that matter, there are usually only one or two brands to choose from, unless someone is fooled by the different names on the label. If you try to avoid Unilever and Proctor & Gamble, good luck with that.
        I also don’t think Bernie has the fortitude to smash through what he has to smash through in order to succeed. I saw Charlie Rose scolding him on TV for getting a little too heated over Hillary’s support of the war in Iraq. Donald defies attempts at censorship. Bernie should have told the MSM to go pound salt.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 2:04 pm #

          Yeah those angry Black ladies took his mic (his power) and he just stood there with his head down like a humiliated little boy. You never give up your mic! And as the rap song (social cred, yo) says, a lesbian doesn’t even deserve to hold a mic in her hands.

    • Ussi May 9, 2016 at 11:28 am #

      Indeed. Kunstler’s opposition to Sanders and Jill Stein is puzzling.

      On the most important issues facing Us – WAR / MONEY IN POLITICS / WALL STREET / CLIMATE CHANGE / … – they are the only candidates who are a threat to the Deep State.

      How he can rage against the Deep State and explain how it’s expressed for years and then dismiss the few public foes of that evil is inexplicable.

      • Elrond Hubbard May 9, 2016 at 11:55 am #

        Kunstler is more or less dismissive of anyone to his left, to the extent that he isn’t simply blind and deaf to them.

        • Ussi May 9, 2016 at 2:28 pm #

          Yes, earlier in this campaign JHK touted Bloomberg as being “Adult” and POTUS candidate who could fix things.

          Why a 1%er at the top of the racket pyramid would “fix” that racket is a mystery to moi.

      • Frankiti May 9, 2016 at 5:12 pm #

        Sanders does not have the cajones or force of personality to stand up to the villains he rails against nor the politicians in his own party they paid off. He’s all bluster and no bite. A wimp.

        • Q. Shtik May 9, 2016 at 6:19 pm #

          Sanders does not have the cajones… – Frankiti


          I disagree with your description (cajones, wimp, etc) HOWEVER, the man turns 75 years old exactly 2 months before election day. I am 75 and you would not believe all the medical shit that can go wrong, out of the blue, at that age. It would be sooo easy for his opposition, whether Hillary or Trump, to call into question his medical fitness.

          And by the way, this holds for the whole lot of them. Look at all their ages. Trump turns 70 in June. Hillary will be 69 in Oct. Joe Biden is 73 right now. These people are ancient by presidential standards. Reagan, our oldest prez, took office a couple of weeks before his 70th birthday.

          I predict a medical problem will upset one of these people’s apple carts before election day.

          • Frankiti May 9, 2016 at 7:07 pm #

            Reading something that’s not there. This gets old (pun intended) fast. Age has nothing to do with Bernie being a wimp, and I never mentioned it.

            It’s a character fault. I’m certain he is healthy and limber, but he shows little mettle when pushed around.

            70 is the new 50.

        • Majella May 9, 2016 at 9:43 pm #

          I believe you’re mistaking his sense of decorum and his stated goal of sticking to the issues in the campaign as his being a wimp. Wrong.

          • Frankiti May 10, 2016 at 5:29 pm #

            How can he stick to the issues when he can’t stick to his mic or hold the ground of the dais?

            He’s a mush.
            Did nothing in Vermont.

        • daveed May 10, 2016 at 12:14 pm #

          “Sanders does not have the cajones or force of personality to stand up to the villains…”

          I think you mean “cojones”…..otherwise you’re talking about boxes.

          You, like others, are mistaking civility for wimpiness. I guess we’ll
          see who has the right stuff in November, if we make it that far.

          • Frankiti May 10, 2016 at 5:26 pm #

            This is not a civil society,… look around.
            Being bullied at your own rally demands forcefulness not ugliness.
            He does not have the huevos.
            November never demonstrates who has the “right stuff”, it demonstrates what asshole the servile imbeciles liked more.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 1:56 pm #

      Make Amtrak into public transportation? Then Blacks will use it – and make it unusable for Whites as they have public city transportation. No? That’s what the Muslims have done in France with their system.

      • sooty May 9, 2016 at 2:44 pm #

        You unfortunate fearful zhlub. I, a petite white woman, took public transportation at all hours in major, multi-racial cities for ages and the only problems I ever had was with 2 white guys. Made 6-hr trips on the Peter Pan bus from NYC to Baltimore and back every other week for a year, and was usually one of a handful of white people on a bus packed with black people. Everyone was polite and considerate, just going about their business.

        Get a life.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 2:57 pm #

          You don’t like your own Men. Neither do European Women. Thus they support the Muslim invasion. Already women there are beginning to dye their blonde hair and cover their heads to avoid harassment and worse. Just like in old Muslim Spain.

          Old Cherokee Proverb: A People aren’t defeated until their woman’s hearts are on the ground. In other words, we are defeated. Splitting asunder the two sexes was the Enemy’s greatest victory against Western Civilization and the White Race.

          • Frankiti May 9, 2016 at 5:08 pm #

            I hope Janos Goebbels gets ravished by a gang of black Israeli transgendered Muslim converts from Israel on a Greyhound. They’ll have a great time, once they remove the 5 foot steel rod from his blowhole.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 6:00 pm #

            Am I strong? Listen zhlub, I’ve got radioactive blood.

          • Elrond Hubbard May 9, 2016 at 7:57 pm #

            I hope Janos Goebbels gets ravished by a gang of black Israeli transgendered Muslim converts from Israel on a Greyhound.

            I have no hope of any kind for Janos, but he feeds on this kind of thing. Don’t get in the mud with him; he’s much more comfortable there than you are. Best stick to taking him on on the merits. That way onlookers stand a chance of being inoculated against his disease.

        • venuspluto67 May 9, 2016 at 6:20 pm #

          Sorry to repeat myself, but I really think that the best way to deal with Nazi trolls is to just ignore them as much as possible. I hope you had an excellent Mother’s Day whether or not you’re a mother.

          • Frankiti May 9, 2016 at 7:44 pm #

            You’re absolutely correct. One can easily see how many people here are enamored of his language. The message arrives by gilded coach and they rush to open its doors. A pretty package, a shiny bauble, the hideous distraction. It works.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 10:35 pm #

            Nazi is a made up word, btw. A pejorative thought up by the Jews. A condensation of the old smear “ignaz” meaning ignorant Bavarian peasant. Thus every time you say it, you are revealing your ignorance.

            You don’t seem able to ignore me. I invoke a strange feeling in you: could it be thought?

          • S M Tenneshaw May 10, 2016 at 5:41 am #

            Nice try, vampire. Nazi stands for National Socialist, and the Jews didn’t have a GODdamn thing to do with it. The truth just isn’t in you, is it?

    • Dumbedup May 9, 2016 at 4:06 pm #

      Nobody has stepped up because no one can step up. The system is rigged against that very possibility. While I like Bernie Sanders and would vote for him in a heartbeat I have real reservations about his experience – especially in foreign policy. And would he fight the Deep State or give into it like Obama? (under duress no doubt)

      This will undoubtedly be the strangest election in history. If it plays out like it should we will be treated to non-stop word lather between Mr. “They love me because I will build a wall” and Ms “Secure email, what secure email.” A lot could happen before November to change things but the Deep State wants to survive and Hillary is their best chance. (Though Trump might cut a deal.)

      • Q. Shtik May 9, 2016 at 5:36 pm #

        …we will be treated to non-stop word lather between… – Dumb


        I only shave roughly every third day but when I do shave I use word lather.

        • S M Tenneshaw May 9, 2016 at 11:39 pm #

          And when I want to watch my weight I eat word salad. Hey, it worked for Sarah Palin.

    • outsider May 10, 2016 at 7:52 am #

      orbit7er – Just to quibble a bit with your comment about JHK agreeing with Bernie on every thing except immigration, you did misrepresent Mr. Kunstler’s position on high speed rail. JHK has written several times of the folly of dumping billions into such a costly endeavor which will take years to complete when our existing decrepit passenger rail system needs to be fixed now.

      • orbit7er May 10, 2016 at 2:52 pm #

        Valid point on Kunstler’s lack of support for High Speed Rail.
        Bernie has expressed support for Rail in general. I agree with Kunstler that we should spend some money on actually running our existing Rail Grid Controlled Electric systems which could actually be done fairly cheaply. And it is also cheap to restore unused Rail just sitting doing nothing as Massachusetts did with the Cape Cod Flyer which cost less than projected and far oustripped projected ridership in its first year. See

        I fervently disagree with Kunstler on High Speed Rail which is the only suitable replacement for air travel across a nation as large as the US. Some legs of High Speed Rail are so simple like the proposed Tampa to Orlando across flat terrain in Florida that we need to just get them going now. the Acela, whether it is truly “High Speed” Rail or not succeeded in moving 70% of former air travel from NY to DC to Rail. Partly simply due to increasing the options and frequency of Rail as much as the speed.
        High Speed Rail from NY to Chicago would give a viable option to take Rail to major cities in between and becomes the hub for other Rail grid controlled electric transit. Grid controlled electric can be totally powered by renewable electrticity very efficiently as the Dutch are planning by 2018. See
        Why wait until the oil and other resources required to build High Speed Rail zoom in expense? We need it now!

        • JimInFlorida May 11, 2016 at 9:31 am #

          As it stands now and in the future, the U.S. is simply incapable of manufacturing any part of a Mag-Lev rail system. We would be lucky to refurbish the existing system and we do well to just barely maintain what we have! We don’t have the political will, material, facilities, or skilled labor to make the tooling and factories to produce passenger cars. Government regulations, the insurance racket, and the rapacious demands of the Top 1%, makes hiring of large domestic labor forces at decent wages impossible. Either that gets overhauled or there won’t be any Made in America passenger rail revival.

          At any rate, any revival in passenger rail travel will have to have a target goal to replace what we had in the 1920’s-1940’s. That kind of rail system is superior to any high-tech alternative because it can be sustained by a nation in decay. Mag-Lev would have to be almost 100% imported and maintained by foreign contract techs. American workers would be lucky to staff the snack bars, customer services, and clean the restrooms of a Mag-Lev system.

          I would even go so far as to recommend a revival of coal-fired steam engines! With current technology, lighter and better designed boilers are possible. Coal can be processed and burned with less pollution than what was common a century ago. The low processing requirements of coal make it ideal for an America Made By Hand. Like oil, coal is self-extracting i.e. coal-fired steam engines can produce power to extract coal. All other forms come out of the initial energy investment of oil and coal. The pollution can be mitigated to a degree but, we will still have to decide when the pollution cost is worth the utility.

          A new rail system should (MUST) be double the width of the current tracks. That way, the cars can boast the same roominess of an airliner and they will be much more stable. We don’t need a 300mph fast rail. We don’t have the wherewithal to build or maintain such a system. A 100-150mph system is good enough.

          All in all, it would take an FDR-scaled New Deal program to revive passenger rail to where it should be. Given that ‘Murikuh has been brainwashed by Reaganomics for 35 years, it won’t happen. We’ll keep putting band-aids, “Lite Rail” gimmicks, and high tech eye candy on the decaying rail system. ‘Murikuh is too far gone to save itself.

    • lsjogren May 11, 2016 at 1:19 am #

      Your utopian aspirations are not grounded in reality. When fossil fuels run out, you can forget about public transit, schools, parks, libraries, and so forth. It’s not just modern materialistic society out the window, it is civilization of any sort.

      • JimInFlorida May 11, 2016 at 9:40 am #

        The one fossil fuel we all forget is COAL. It requires FAR LESS processing before it can produce heat that gets converted into work. The engines that burn coal to heat steam require FAR LESS material and technological input before useful work is produced. The residue of modern technology that survives into World Made By Hand can make more efficient coal-fired engines.

        Pollution from mining and burning of coal can be mitigated to an acceptable degree. That degree is subject to our tolerance and the need for work to be done.
        All that remains is to determine when the utility of coal outweighs the risks of pollution.

        Heck, we may even see sailing ships come back! The speed of life in a World Made By Hand MUST slow down and expectations MUST be adjusted to what is possible.

      • Frankiti May 11, 2016 at 6:41 pm #

        Your dystopian fantasies are more laughable. There will be return. There will be more large scale nuclear reactors and smaller Taylor Wilson personal reactors before your steam-punk fantasies come to life. There will be more solar, more wind, and more efficient battery storage for both. There will be a Buckminster global grid before people are using horses and sail barges. There needs to be a serious wake the f***k up moment around here. This is not technonarcissim, this is fact. Perhaps life will become more expensive, more perilous, more dangerous, less comfortable and will more than likely cause a steep population decline, but it will not cause dark ages, nowhere, not for us. That ship has done sailed.

        • JimInFlorida May 14, 2016 at 8:37 am #

          No steampunk fantasies here. The basis for your optimism is very flaky and weak. Thirty or more years ago, your optimism might have been plausible but, we can see the blighted evidence of Morning in America all around us now. Obama is the fulfillment of all that Reagan and the neocons had started.

          I look around and see an America that is greatly diminished in its creative and spiritual power. The psychological energy that built the post-WW2 matrix of life, from the 1950’s – early 1970’s, simply does not exist today. Thanks to 35 years of unabated Reaganomics, we no longer manufacture for the mass market and have completely lost the habits of an industrial nation. We are habituated into being debt-fueled consumers and such a people makes an industrial revival impossible.

          A Mag-Lev railroad is impossible with such a body-politic. AGAIN, it would all have to be imported and Amerikans would be lucky to operate T-shirt and hot-dog kiosks in the Mag-Lev terminals.

          AGAIN, we will be lucky to rebuild the existing passenger rail system we had in the 1940’s. Upgrading that technology to double-width tracks IN HOUSE borders on fantasy and Mag-Lev Rail is porn-level fantasy. Maybe we can get a Mag-Lev Train sim game for our Chinese-made laptops and PRETEND to build a Mag-Lev network.

          Solar and wind have very weak energy densities and are only suitable for regional energy supplementation. The typical giant 3-blade wind generator is extremely inefficient and there are far better designs available. Persistence of such windmills only proves that the Feds and Big Oil do not want alternative energies to succeed.

          The Buckminster Global Grid is utter folly and represents the stupid naive belief that all parties will contribute equally to the common infrastructure. The B Grid will fail because of the phenomenon called, “Tragedy of the Commons!” Look up Tragedy of the Commons and you’ll see what I mean.

          Finally, all things in your last assertion are hard evidence of a Dark Ages, especially when measured against a lofty standard like 1950’s America. This time, it will be fatal because the masses won’t even have the refuge of a powerful Catholic Church, as was the case in Dark Ages Europe. A Dark Ages today will feature total anomie. There will be NO PROTECTION from tyrants or mobs and the only material progress will be for the Police State. A new passenger rail system will be irrelevant at that point.

  4. venuspluto67 May 9, 2016 at 9:42 am #

    Part of the reason I’m still supporting Bernie is my deepest socio-political desire, whether it’s spiritually appropriate or not, is to push the country’s two-party system off a high cliff. I feel the desire to do this so strongly that I still want to do this even when I feel guilty about it.

    • Beryl of Oyl May 9, 2016 at 12:29 pm #

      It’s not really a two-party system anymore. Push away. I support Donald, but in a race between someone else and Bernie, I’d go with Bernie.

    • outsider May 10, 2016 at 8:13 am #

      Agreed venus. Then you should be supporting Trump also. And don’t feel guilty about it. Your instincts are correct.

  5. DrTomSchmidt May 9, 2016 at 9:52 am #

    From time to time, when he’s not speaking emptily about how much he is loved, Trump voices some legitimate concern of the Deep State’s victims. There are few decent jobs outside the Deep State’s own rackets. We’re not obliged to take in a limitless stream of immigrants. Nation-building by military means has been a dismal failure. The national debt is a problem. The country’s infrastructure is decrepit.

    No one in the Democratic Party has held Hillary to account for the disastrous decision to pop Libya. Do they agree with it? There is in fact very little a President can do with respect to domestic policy; Obamacare is really Pelosicare. But a President CAN get us involved in disastrous nation-building wars. Trump and Sanders have both criticized Iraq, while Clinton showed she hadn’t learned anything from that disaster by pushing Libya. Therein lies the difference.

    It looks like the Republicans are going to dump the international crusader warmongers back on the Democrats. I remember, dimly, the 1976 campaign, where an old order Republican complained about all the deaths in “Democrat Wars,” with over 500,000 dead between WW1, WW2, Vietnam, and Korea. We could use those hundreds of billions of dollars here at home to try to salvage some semblance of civilization in the coming age of capital depletion.

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    • venuspluto67 May 9, 2016 at 10:12 am #

      And, oddly enough, the original model for “Pelosicare” was “Romneycare” in MA. I think that may explain why Mitt Romney was only able to garner 60% of the caucasian vote in 2012.

      For those who like long reads on society and politics, here’s a thoughtful interview with a well-educated sociologist with no axes to grind about the “Trump phenomenon”.

    • Elrond Hubbard May 9, 2016 at 11:13 am #

      No one in the Democratic Party has held Hillary to account for the disastrous decision to pop Libya.

      That’s because no one in the Democratic Party fundamentally cares about Libya, or about military success, because those things don’t influence their careers.

    • Dumbedup May 9, 2016 at 8:24 pm #

      Old style conservatives (paleo -vs- neo) included all parts of the government when they talked about size and power. I’m not even sure the neocons of today stand for smaller government. They pay it lip service but not much more.

      I’m not a proponent of smaller government. Back when the population of the US was 180 million yes — but not now. Things are too complex and predatory capitalism needs a leash. But somehow we have to find a way to force it to do what we tell it to do — it always goes back to ethics in government. When bribery is legalized all sorts of mischief follows.

      As far as I can tell only Bernie Sanders is talking about real campaign reform, repealing Citizens United, single-payor healthcare with universal coverage, education reform and re-enacting Glass-Steagall. Banks should be regulated like utilities.

      • Elrond Hubbard May 10, 2016 at 10:31 am #

        “Smaller government” is a propaganda red herring thought up by business interests — not because they dislike government per se, but because they want to capture it in order to serve them, rather than having it serve the wider public and limit their predations. It’s a corruption of the rather more respectable idea of limited government, i.e. that government should have only the powers delegated to it by the people, nothing more. Don’t be fooled.

        • Dumbedup May 10, 2016 at 8:39 pm #

          Exactly. As I told a friend of mine today, I don’t want to dismantle or downsize the government. If we are going to live under federalism (and there is no going back from where we are so that argument is over) I at least want it to work for me and not for corporate interests.

    • outsider May 10, 2016 at 8:39 am #

      DrTom, your comment highlights the problem with divided government. As today, when you have a president of one party and a congress of another, nothing gets done domestically. You can’t even get a new Supreme Court justice on the court, a travesty of our system for which that poor excuse for a human McConnell and the rest of his yes-men republican senators should be punished at the polls this fall – but probably won’t.

      When a president can get nothing done domestically, his thoughts then turn to foreign policy, where he is a virtual dictator. This will be especially dangerous if Hillary the Hawk gets elected and the Congress remains in GOP control. The last think I want is Clinton II, but, if she does win, I hope at least the Senate will change hands. Even if it does, it may be bombs away on Damascus anyway, a coming confrontation with Russia, and the real chance of WWIII.

  6. messianicdruid May 9, 2016 at 10:20 am #

    “Then what?”

    “Suffering is meant to show you that your previous choice(s) were wrong.”

    IOW – your karma ran over your dogma.

    • ozone May 10, 2016 at 9:28 am #

      “Then what?”

      “Suffering is meant to show you that your previous choice(s) were wrong.”

      IOW – your karma ran over your dogma. — md

      That’s exactly how it will go down. And the suffering will be commensurate with the “wrongness” of the choices. (The “banquet of consequences”.) This is where Orlov’s insistence that the former Soviets did a *few* things right that provided *some* resiliency comes to the fore. This country however… not so much.

      As to the karma running over the dogma: The neo-fascists are going to have to learn this lesson “the hard way” once again. They will rise again soon, and have nasty little believer apparatchiks like vladdie to make life [more of a] hell for most others just trying to scrape by. They too will be quite surprised when they are thrown down the old dry well. “I was only working to make a perfect society for white meeeeeeeeen……” In a time of resource constraint, they won’t last as long as the glorious thousand-year 3rd reich did. (The only blessing in a thoroughly shitty situation.)

  7. malthuss May 9, 2016 at 10:28 am #

    Malls and store closures. Money velocity down. Baltic Dry Index down.


  8. terrasapien_ May 9, 2016 at 11:01 am #

    “Then there was the Ralph Nader in 2000, whose egoistic crusade arguably put George W. Bush in the White House.”

    No single person in the history of the US authored and promoted more bills to protect the 99%. He was torpedoed by the usual suspects, and when he showed up for the debates was met with armed guards and kept out. Amy Goodman was there and documented the incident.

    If ever a decent leader did make it through the minefields and over the razor wire topped brick walls, he’d need to be humble, and at the same time strong enough to have “leadership qualities”. So Ralph comes away as egotistical and history washes down the sewer grate into oblivion.

    Biden and Sanders will be kept in the wings just in case Hillery should cough up a hairball during debates, or have a little problem arise her Depends ® can’t contain.

    The deep state has to keep

    • Q. Shtik May 9, 2016 at 11:49 am #

      So Ralph comes away as [egotistical] and history washes down the sewer grate into oblivion. – terrasapien


      When JHK used the word ‘egoistic’ I just knew someone would mistake it for ‘egotistic.’

      The following blurb explains the difference:

      The words egoism and egotism are frequently confused, as though interchangeable, but there are distinctions worth noting. Both words derive from Latin ego (‘I’), the first-person singular pronoun. Egotism, the more commonly used term , denotes an excessive sense of self-importance, too-frequent use of the word ‘I,’ and general arrogance and boastfulness. Egoism, a more subtle term , is perhaps best left to ethicists, for whom it denotes a view or theory of moral behavior in which self-interest is the root of moral conduct. An egoist, then , might devote considerable attention to introspection, but could be modest about it, whereas an egotist would have an exaggerated sense of the importance of his or her self-analysis, and would have to tell everyone.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 3:02 pm #

        Interesting and valid distinction. Sri Ramana said there is only Self and it is transpersonal. But other figures have said we must first find our true individuality before we can ascend to such heights.

      • terrasapien_ May 9, 2016 at 6:57 pm #

        I should know better than to gloss over and speed read Kunstler, the master wordsmith and magician of articulation. Damn this egg is hard to get off my face. Thanks for the instruction Q. Shtik

      • sprawlcapital May 11, 2016 at 11:18 pm #

        Thanks for explaining the distinction between egoism and egotism, Q. I think I learned this maybe 45 years ago, but had since forgotten.

    • Beryl of Oyl May 9, 2016 at 12:35 pm #

      If we didn’t get Bush, would Al Gore really have made things better?
      I read somewhere once, that Ralph and Pat Buchanan were going to form an alliance to fix what was wrong in the country. I wondered at the time whether it was a joke. I guess so, because it never came to pass. That would have been something to behold.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 2:10 pm #

        Pat chose a Black Woman for his VP. An utterly insane thing to do considering who his backers are. It was a ham fisted attempt to appease the politically correct that fooled no one. As if any of them would ever vote for him. But it certainly would make him lose White votes from the racially aware.

        • JimInFlorida May 11, 2016 at 7:15 pm #

          100% correct, Janos. I remember when Pat Buchanan made that clumsy attempt to “broaden” his base of support. It fooled nobody and only discredited his otherwise sterling political integrity.

          Hopefully, The Donald will not make that mistake. A VP choice should confirm what a Presidential candidate stands for. To “broaden” the campaign with a VP who’s about 90*-120* out should be seen as a stupid artifact of PC thinking.

          Trump should avoid the Sarah Palin strategy (eye candy) at all costs! It may be tempting to take on an Establishment Minder (Jeb Bush or Chris Christie) but, we all know how Bush Sr. attempted a coup d’etat on Reagan via the deranged son of a close friend! If Trump DARES to nominate the likes of Carl Icahn, or some tool of Goldman Sachs as his VP, he deserves to be taken out by an angry mob; betrayed of all they had invested in him.

          Senator Jeff Sessions would be an excellent running mate with Trump in my opinion. He would carry the South and confirm Trump’s message. For Trump to double down like that would be an epic act of courage. If We Teh Sheep don’t salute such leadership with our votes, then ZOG Amerika deserves the hellish fate in store for it.

      • daveed May 10, 2016 at 12:33 pm #

        Perhaps your lead-off question would be best answered by the occupants of Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

    • venuspluto67 May 9, 2016 at 1:12 pm #

      Here’s a very interesting demographic anecdote I heard a while back, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it’s true: A lot of Baby Boomer women voted for Bush in 2000, because Bill Clinton’s sexual peccadilloes made them want to use the ballot-box to punish Boomer men in general whom they felt had so badly sexually exploited and abused Boomer women. And I’m not trying to make any generalization about women because I’m a (Gen-Xer) guy, and this sounds like something I might do if I were pissed off enough!

      • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 2:11 pm #

        Sounds like feminine “thinking”. More proof they shouldn’t be voting. Most men shouldn’t be either, obviously.

  9. 41259mike May 9, 2016 at 11:12 am #

    H W Bush took advantage of the Perot fainting spell…. W was later

  10. Georges1202 May 9, 2016 at 11:20 am #

    Should Trump bubble up and somehow find himself in charge of this ridiculous goat-rodeo of a ‘nation’ I truly believe that should he tamper with the rackets embedded in the Land of the Free executive action would be taken – along the lines of what happened to Kennedy.

    When the unthinkable becomes real and stomps about like a combed over Godzilla we know that things are becoming unhinged. Stay Tuned.

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    • Beryl of Oyl May 9, 2016 at 12:39 pm #

      Those 28 pages left out of the 9/11 report? The ones Democrats Kirsten Gillibrand and Chuck Schumer want released, but Democrat Obama says no because national security? I am convinced that fear of Donald getting a look at what’s in them will drive those who already know what’s in them to extremes that will shock the most cynical of us.

      • Elrond Hubbard May 9, 2016 at 1:20 pm #

        Yes, that will be an interesting revelation indeed. The consensus expectation is that those pages describe what the so-called “intelligence community” knew about the complicity of senior Saudis (e.g. Prince Bandar) in funding al-Qaeda prior to 9/11 — facts that were perfectly well-known to the Bush administration when they used 9/11 as the pretext to invade not Saudi Arabia, but Iraq. They’ve held it back not for security reasons, but to avoid further embarrassment for themselves. I’ve said it before: Trump may be a monstrous narcissist, but his honesty about the failures of U.S. foreign policy comes as a breath of fresh air.

        • Georges1202 May 9, 2016 at 2:08 pm #

          Full disclosure of the the various blunders and outrages throughout the years might very well ignite this comatose public. Then again, maybe not – we are pretty deeply asleep except for a small percentage who are completely fed up with this circus.

        • Dumbedup May 10, 2016 at 8:45 pm #

          And will he lie, cheat and steal and then project blame and deceive us about his own foreign failures. So will Hillary. That’s what narcissists do.

      • Helix May 9, 2016 at 4:52 pm #

        After the Kennedy assassination and 9/11, what’s left to shock us with?

        • michael May 13, 2016 at 7:43 am #

          Make that “assassinations”.

    • Dumbedup May 9, 2016 at 9:00 pm #

      The ONLY thing that makes me want to vote for Trump is the fact that he is so rabidly anti-establishment. I think he would give them hell every chance he could. Whether he could change things would depend entirely on Congress and I doubt anyone there would be in the mood to listen to anything he said. Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, is equally anti-establishment and because he is so well liked he might actually get elected with a bargainable mandate.

  11. K-Dog May 9, 2016 at 11:20 am #

    I don’t agree with this new definition of the deep state but I’ll just growl about it.

    Putting both parties in such a bad odor that Trump now rises on their mephitic fumes“, about sums it up. An evil miasma of sloth, stupidity and cluelessness fills the air and not a politician in America has any “plausible vision” of were the fates will blow the future nation. Yet the winds of change will surly blow the stinking miasma away and the lack of future will be made very clear.

  12. jim Eberle May 9, 2016 at 11:25 am #

    Jim. When I first read The Long Emergency in 2006, you said that an era would eventually arise which I think you called “The rise of the Big Men”, which you went on to say were charismatic demagogues who would promise a return to the “old ways”. Is Donald Trump the first of “The Big Men”?

    • MisterDarling May 9, 2016 at 9:55 pm #

      @ Jim Eberle,

      Kudos to you for being the first to spot it. That’s precisely how I’ve been assessing the Trump phenomenon. “Big Men” and political personality-cults are a symptom of a political-system degeneration This is what happens when systems destabilize.

  13. midwest44 May 9, 2016 at 11:39 am #

    Mr. Kunstler,

    Quick question. Is a public school teacher a member of the “Deep State?”

    • James Howard Kunstler May 9, 2016 at 11:58 am #

      Sounds like a trick question to me… but my honest answer is that a public school teacher is a mere functionary of the Deep State. Of course, public school teachers and their unions have some major rackets running. And it is hard to see how schools have improved over the past four decades — except some have better sports facilities.

      • venuspluto67 May 9, 2016 at 1:23 pm #

        I definitely support the idea of unions, but I really dislike what unions in this country have become. A Republican neighbor of mine told me a while back that he used to really support the unions, but now “the unions just seem like they’re for themselves.” I replied dryly, “That’s probably because everybody is for themselves these days.”

  14. beantownbill. May 9, 2016 at 12:03 pm #

    Jim, I like your definition of the deep state as a collection of rackets rather than as what many people believe is an organized mega-conspiracy. Such a belief is analogous to believing in creationism rather than evolution.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 2:16 pm #

      Yes, the policeman doesn’t write you up for speeding, the rule book does. Another dodge. You’ll have to do a lot better than that if you want appease the anger of the Folk.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 2:37 pm #

        Synthesis (the higher third)=Intelligent Design.

        The best aspects of both are preserved and integrated. Which? That evolution did happen. But that it obviously wasn’t a purely mechanical process. How do we know? Because it would have taken far more time than it did – ultimately more time than this universe will have. There is a guiding hand. This offends many people who don’t want to be guided. That infringes upon their supposed autonomy. Basically, they wish to rule in the hell of self and meaninglessness than serve in the Heaven of Meaning and transcendence of self.

        • Frankiti May 9, 2016 at 5:23 pm #

          I’m not surprised that you cannot find meaning in yourself.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 10:53 pm #

            Define “yourself”? On second thought, don’t. “You” don’t have enough existence to do the job justice. Too much egotism as opposed to egoism as Q alluded to.

          • Frankiti May 10, 2016 at 5:19 pm #

            b : your normal, healthy, or sane condition or self

            No sanity no self

    • Dumbedup May 9, 2016 at 9:07 pm #

      I tend to think that the Deep State exists in form and function to serve the interests of a small group of powerful and influential people who use it as a kind of rudder to steer the ship of state. The arc it creates is long but bends towards injustice. (apologies to MLK)

      It does not mean that all of those groups have the same agenda and never conflict. But the aim is power and control. If that makes me a conspiracy theorist then so be it.

  15. pequiste May 9, 2016 at 12:14 pm #

    The “Deep State” is Hobbes’ Leviathan only now with 21st century technology, weapons and money.

    A SCARY fucking thing it is too – totalitarianism in a chip. Controlled by some God-damned A.I. contraption from DARPA (you know it is.) And an RFID for your hand or head serf. You get out of line and we shall shut it off and you out. Please see one Larry Summers as exemplar (Deep State operative at Treasury and Harvard among other places) and his position on the elimination of cash.

    Now for a realistic view of the silly season, I have acquired for the CFN’s edification, the following video:


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  16. ozone May 9, 2016 at 12:53 pm #

    Another fine analysis of the strange territory into which we’ve finally arrived and the incredibly foolish path we took to get here. (Personally, I’ve generally cleaved to the Depression generation’s meme’s of frugality and valuing durability and repair-ability. “If you need it, or feel you can’t do without it, then save up for it. Debt is slavery and credit carries the curse of usury.”)

    “Hillary Clinton, of course, is the Deep State incarnate, which is the real reason so few citizens trust her. Every poor schnook getting shaken down for a $90,000 appendectomy bill looks at Hillary and knows exactly what she represents. Every 25-year-old jobless, couch-surfing millennial carrying fifty-grand in college debt sees the face of the Deep State in her self-satisfied demi-smile. Mainly, she has gulled the diversity pimps — because they are wards of the Deep State — and women, because it’s Mommy’s “turn” to direct the Deep State.” — JHK

    This gives a bit more shape to my rather tenebrous opinion that shuffles closer every day. It’s becoming clear (to me) that the reason the party of the “MineMineMine” emotionally immature (the GOP) are rejecting Mr. Trump is because the Peripatetic Pantsuit (Hillary Clinton) far better represents their “interests”. …Just as Obama had/has delivered us into their tender mercies/clutches. Look around, have the policies of the central gov’t. [essentially] changed from that of the BushCheney regime? I don’t think so.

    • Beryl of Oyl May 9, 2016 at 1:09 pm #

      The difference is birth control. The Republicans start yelling about rape, birth control, and abortion at election time. That’s where the Democrats got their War on Women slogan from, the Republicans handed it to them. Of, Paul Ryan wanted to take Medicare as we know it away from elderly women, too.
      The Democrats openly support birth control, except when they support Pope Francis, who is against it.
      There you have the difference.

      • Beryl of Oyl May 9, 2016 at 1:10 pm #

        Oh, not of. I can’t type anymore.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 2:22 pm #

        Yes, it’s far too much to expect women to be responsible at this point. It’s a program for losing any election.

        Francis is bringing people along slowly. Remember, a few years ago Obama and Hillary were against gay marriage, officially that is. No one in the know was fooled. Pope Francis is exactly the same kind of politicians as they are, both in form and belief.

  17. AKlein May 9, 2016 at 1:06 pm #

    JHK, for years now you have opined, regarding the price of oil, that we would finally enter a bumpy phase, where the price would shoot up, overshoot, then drop, undershoot, and then back up again and so on. As I recall, one of your points was that on the road to a permanently high price (because of lack of availability at a lower cost) we would see some seemingly unexpected lowering of the price; i.e. the price curve over time would not be upwardly monotonic, but could reflect wild, dramatic, swings. Looks to me that your prognostications were spot on. Could you not also project similar bumpy road in the political arena? Arguably, both Sanders and Trump are genuine in their own way. They both fervently believe that our current course as a nation is unsustainable. Your point, JHK, seems to be that neither have realistic plans for dealing with this dysfunction. Further, the Clinton presidency would simply be a continuation of what we already know is unsustainable. After the coming election, there will be a certain degree of expectation and euphoria in the electorate, no matter who wins. This will seem hopeful. Alas, if you are correct about the true condition of the nation, this euphoria and hopefulness will be short-lived. Soon enough, the electorate will then fall back into an even greater degree of hopelessness. After a few more rounds of rope-a-doping (credit: M. Ali) a real demagogue will be a shoo-in.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 2:26 pm #

      Trump is a realist. We have coal and coal is king. It gives us energy independence and time. Protestors against Coal must be dealt with the utmost severity. The black gold must flow. I want coal trains running thru my community so I can pick up the precious pieces that fall. I will wear clothing from mid 20th Century middle Europe when I do so.

      • malthuss May 9, 2016 at 2:30 pm #

        19th Century?

        Did you see ‘Angelas Ashes’, where they picked coal up off the street?

        • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 2:51 pm #

          Everyone does. We will have chimney sweeps again! You can get to feel like a “worker” with dirty clothes and face. It’s an aesthetic. Marxism will come back in the biggest possible way and artificially dirty clothes will be sold in the boutiques.

          Steam Punk is the future. High Tech is out but ingenuous medium tech, with many a valve and lever, is back with a vengeance. Again it is the synthesis between high tech nerds and low or no tech fanatics.

          Some say coal can be made clean. It takes more coal to make coal clean. An infinite regress. Let’s accept the smog and become Neo-Victorians. Each woman will carry a Hat Pin to defend herself. Men will learn boxing, judo and carry sword canes. Our top hats will be the chimneys of thought: we will think our way out of this, but only if we have time and stay White. In the meantime, we can enjoy elegance and maximum gender difference. We will co-opt the Marxist aesthetic and the dialectic for our own ends (even as they stole it from Hegel). And of course combine it with Victorian fashion and social mores. Ruskin will be big and Buck one of the State pundits.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 3:21 pm #

            Even as I was writing this, a woman named “Sooty” responded to me above. Coincidence? Sure, just like the branch of Ivy somehow knew enough to move out of my door frame. When we meet, I will gift her with this exact branch of Ivy. She will weave it around her head and the New Age of Steampunk will be and must be born/bourn.

      • monkey_flower May 9, 2016 at 10:00 pm #

        Nonsense. Coal sucks. Those mountains in West Virginia are worth a lot more than a few years of comfort for some fat bloated yuppie scum.

        The Earth is not a freebie. It simply has so much value that ordinary people cannot comprehend how valuable it is. One of the vagaries of human perception.

        I take the liberty of assuming that most people would not be willing to wait 10,000 years for soil to settle.

        Not that all mining is bad. Much of the mining in the 1800’s in my home state of NH was entirely beneficial. Created habitat for bats and maple-leaved goosefoot for example.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 10:43 pm #

          You start wrong and end right. That’s refreshing. I like people who put their bad foot forward. As Horace said, You can cast nature out with a pitchfork, but it will return. In darkest Liverpool, the moths turned from white to black to blend in. And the snow was black sometimes. What an unspeakable beauty that must have been.

          We will grow strong in the new world. If we would stop giving money to Africa, their population would crash and the whole continent could be a nature preserve. Instead we allow them to over breed and invade our lands. An alien orbiting the Earth would say our major project is breeding the dark races. I prefer the darkness of coal and smog – for a time. Yes more species might go extinct but we would save ourselves from extinction. Stop being a relativist. Love your own Species and Sub Species (race) like other normal creatures do. That’s getting with Nature.

          If and when we solve the energy crisis, the world would be ours. And of course, we shouldn’t over breed either.

  18. toktomi May 9, 2016 at 1:06 pm #

    “…Deep State?

    A leviathan of symbiotic rackets producing maximum incompetence affecting adversely the majority of citizens. It’s a blood-sucking beast of a hundred-thousand heads draining the USA of its dwindling vitality, lying about its intentions while it advertises the pietistic certainties of the Left and superstitious shibboleths of the Right, leaving a smoking hole in the middle where the practical problems of everyday life used to be worked out by practical means.

    The Deep State is also the sum of unintended consequences and diminishing returns of a late-stage, bureaucratic, techno-industrial economy cannibalizing itself to stay alive.

    In fact, the scene at hand today is just a spectacle of the shrewdest and biggest rodents scarfing up the table-scraps of a 200-year-long banquet.”

    Exactly, I say, this is the Great Collapse of industrial human society quickening in earnest, and so, people, I suggest that you focus. Focus on those things that matter to your survival or otherwise, simply lose yourself in the cacophony as the band plays on. There is no future, there is nothing real in anything political, but if it briefly pleasures you, then stroke it. However, your public musings make me tired.

    “Then what?”? The highest probability might be that there will be no “then”. It is difficult to imagine that this swirling putrid madness is not the proverbial, long anticipated, final flush.


  19. Piper Michael May 9, 2016 at 1:23 pm #

    Ah James,
    You don’t seem too happy with any of our esteemed presidential candidates. The ‘lessor of two evils’ saying, really has depth this time around, eh?
    Well, I think of it this way.
    Trump, at least, is the Enemy of my enemy, and thus, is my friend.
    He said he would ‘renegotiate the debt’. That sounds like somebody at least addressing the issues, to the detriment of rich folks.
    Building a wall? Better and better, but, he would really need to address the H1B and Visa fiascos too.
    TPP? Not. Gonna. Happen. With a Trump presidency.

    At least he sounds like he loves America, and is not a globalist.
    Good enough for massive numbers of out of work craftsmen in this country? I guess we’ll see if he even makes it to the election.
    My guess? A bullet from several hundred yards out, from a patsy who’s family will be well taken care of. As HitlerII is taken out by the Comey primary, and Biden parachutes into Philadelphia selling Sanders as his VP.

    As always, we shall see, we shall see.
    As for me, time to plant and let the country continue committing sepuku.

    • ozone May 9, 2016 at 1:29 pm #

      “As for me, time to plant and let the country continue committing sepuku.” -P.M.

      I’m surely with you there. 🙂 (It’s something I can actually affect.)

  20. PeteAtomic May 9, 2016 at 1:31 pm #

    “Then what?”

    Hopefully politics that honestly resemble the common realities of what people are facing and are more pragmatic & regionalistic without stooping to totalitarianism. That’s my hope, anyway. Perhaps a rise to a neo-Anti-Federalist party. Who knows.

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  21. erik May 9, 2016 at 2:16 pm #

    You say it has to be “carefully disassembled” to avoid blowing up everything…something to that effect.
    While that might be a consummation devoutly to be wished, I don’t for a minute think anything like that is likely; things just don’t work that way in die weltgeist, and loss of legitimacy and a total meltdown would be a precondition for restructuring, IMO.

    No careful disassembly is any more possible than a coordinated response to climate change; ain’t gonna happen.

    • MisterDarling May 9, 2016 at 2:29 pm #

      “No careful disassembly is any more possible than a coordinated response to climate change; ain’t gonna happen.”-e.

      Agreed. Collapse is not orderly. The means to impose order have fallen part, that’s all part-and-parcel of things collapsing…

      • Janos Skorenzy May 10, 2016 at 1:46 pm #

        There are laws to decay and collapse. But yes, collapse is impossible to predict exactly: too many factors.

  22. MisterDarling May 9, 2016 at 2:18 pm #

    JHK’s overview of our collective ‘Situation’ is spot-on, as usual…

    Thanks for “Blowing smoke up the Deep State’s ass is not a plan.” That is appreciated. I needed a chuckle.


  23. MisterDarling May 9, 2016 at 2:25 pm #

    @ Bobolink,

    RE | “Much as I think most of MD’s comments and reflections are lucid and spot on, I find his self-justification of war crimes troubling. We civilians just can’t understand, he seems to say. No I can’t.”-b.

    I haven’t confessed to any “war crimes”, and I certainly have not attempted to justify any. Just to clear things up: soldiers with me and in soldiers in my charge were attacked, and the attackers were killed. That’s really about as clean and straight-forward as it gets in a combat zone between combatants.

    No civilians were harmed in the exchange (which was away from settlements). In the aftermath it was discovered that the dead were closely related to someone I had talked with on several occasions. I’ve never said anything more or less than this.

    Please do not fall for any nonsense from certain posters here. There’s no basis for referring to me as a ‘war criminal’.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 10, 2016 at 12:28 am #

      The fire you built for me ended up burning you. Hope you learn your lesson from this, but I doubt that you will.

  24. malthuss May 9, 2016 at 2:29 pm #

    JHKs thoughts are about politicians and the USAs failing economy.

    I would like to know when oil gets scarce and how expensive will gasoline get.


  25. Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 3:26 pm #


    Looks like Mr Kunstler is going to get his wish about the suburbs. But this may not be what he had in mind. Sounds like a prescription for race war to me.

    Is this Castro related to Fidel?

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  26. FincaInTheMountains May 9, 2016 at 3:53 pm #

    What would transitional period under President Trump look like?

    Instead of looking into unrealistic pseudo collapse theories of Dmitry Orlov or, God save. Mad Max scenarios, I would study quite realistic history of United Kingdom before and after the end of the WWII.

    To deal with sometimes extreme shortages, the Ministry of Food instituted a system of rationing. To buy most rationed items, each person had to register at chosen shops, and was provided with a ration book containing coupons. The shopkeeper was provided with enough food for registered customers. Purchasers had to take ration books with them when shopping, so the relevant coupon or coupons could be cancelled.

    Standard rationing in 1945 per week (unless otherwise stated):

    Bacon and Ham 4 oz (113 g)
    Sugar 8 oz (227 g)
    Loose Tea 2 oz (57 g)
    Meat 1 lb 3 oz
    Cheese 2 oz (57 g)
    Vegetarians were allowed an extra 3 oz (85 g) cheese

    Preserves 1 lb (0.45 kg) per month
    marmalade 2 lb (0.91 kg) marmalade
    or 1 lb (0.45 kg) preserve
    or 1 lb (0.45 kg) sugar

    Butter 2 oz (57 g)
    Margarine 4 oz (113 g)
    Lard 2 oz (57 g)
    Sweets 12 oz (340 g) per month

    Eggs were rationed and “allocated to ordinary consumers as available”; in 1944 thirty allocations of one egg each were made. Children and some invalids were allowed three a week; expectant mothers two on each allocation.

    The results gave the government confidence that if necessary food could be distributed equally to all, without causing widespread health problems. Rationing improved the health of British people; infant mortality declined and life expectancy rose. This was because it ensured that everyone had access to a varied diet with enough vitamins.

    Milk was supplied at 3 imp pt (1.7 l) each week with priority for expectant mothers and children under 5; 3.5 imp pt (2.0 l) for those under 18; children unable to attend school 5 imp pt (2.8 l), certain invalids up to 14 imp pt (8.0 l). Each consumer received one tin of milk powder (equivalent to 8 imperial pints or 4.5 litres) every eight weeks.

    Restaurants were initially exempt from rationing, but this was resented, as people with more money could supplement their food rations by eating out frequently. The Ministry of Food in May 1942 issued new restrictions on restaurants.

    Non-food rations


    There were 66 points for clothing per year, in 1942 it was cut to 48 and in 1943 to 36, and in 1945 to 24. In 1945, an overcoat (wool and fully lined) 18 coupons; a man’s suit 26–29 (according to lining); men’s shoes 9, women’s shoes 7; woollen dress 11. Children aged 14–16 got 20 more coupons. Clothing rationing points could be used for wool, cotton and household textiles. People had extra points for work clothes, such as overalls for factory work. No points were required for second-hand clothing or fur coats, but their prices were fixed. Before rationing lace and frills were popular on knickers but these were soon banned so that material could be saved. From March to May 1942 austerity measures were introduced which restricted the number of buttons, pockets and pleats (among other things) on clothes.

    Clothes rationing ended on 15 March 1949.

    Materials are taken from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationing_in_the_United_Kingdom

    • monkey_flower May 9, 2016 at 10:06 pm #

      Can I trade my marmalade for coffee ?

    • pequiste May 10, 2016 at 12:55 am #

      A very direct reminder of what the British had for sustenance during their “finest hour.”

      What shall all the “new” British require under a rationing system? Yzlamik invaders, Somali pirates, Nigerian economic migrants and the rest will riot, when the shortages come, until they get theirs’ their way- read Halal, and native African.

      What would an American 21st century, late second decade version look like?

      Just watch any “sporting” event on the Idiot BOx for the products and reduce the quantity by 90%.

      Jim Kunstler will make an arrangement to get a special rationing bonus coupon for some Cheez Doodles with which he will barter for some paper and ink at the local flea market.

  27. tucsonspur May 9, 2016 at 5:25 pm #

    Did I hear it right? This morning, I think I heard Trump say we don’t have to worry about defaulting on any debt because we can just print up the money. Wow!

    The AIIB has been established. The Shanghai Accords are in place.
    Will, as Rickards says it will, the SDR replace the dollar as world reserve by 2020?

    He says the IMF has been planning this since 2010.

    • FincaInTheMountains May 9, 2016 at 9:02 pm #

      Will, as Rickards says it will, the SDR replace the dollar as world reserve by 2020?

      Good morning! Slept well? That plan was abandoned 5 years ago with Strauss Kahn New York affair – Nigerian Maid vs SDR and IMF.

      • elysianfield May 10, 2016 at 12:15 pm #

        “That plan was abandoned 5 years ago with Strauss Kahn New York affair – Nigerian Maid vs SDR and IMF.”

        The “affair” did not even slow the process down…Strauss-Kahn was but one head of the Hydra….

  28. Frankiti May 9, 2016 at 6:02 pm #

    I also disagree with this definition of the “Deep State”.

    There is nothing sinister afoot. There is no secretive group of state, police, or intelligence people secretly guarding the wheelhouse and keeping this ship on an even keel.

    What we are seeing in the US is what James Bovard has been talking about for ages. The beast, the Leviathan.

    It’s the living, devouring, expanding, replicating bureaucracy of our centralized government. It’s the symbiotic relationship that not only keeps the wealthy and powerful wealthy and powerful, but the middle-class and working middle-class and working. Too many wheels getting greased, too many hand getting the dole. It’s pervasiveness is correlated with it’s ability to bring more on board. The military dependents need the military, as a stepping stone for miscreants and poor students as a contract awarder for fabrication and tech industry, as a research funder for educational institutions. It infects all layers. Society has been built on it, replaced by it. There is nothing nefarious about it, it only does what it needs to survive, and for it to survive it needs to infect more and more. Life here on earth is built on the fight for survival. The colony is the creature, the swarm is the creature, the bureaucracy is the creature.

    • tucsonspur May 9, 2016 at 6:38 pm #

      I generally agree, and I guess you are talking about dubious contract awarding and specious research funding. Otherwise okay, right?

      • Frankiti May 9, 2016 at 7:03 pm #

        Look at the headlines today. What is the leviathan’s mode of defense when threatened? It starves its competition. It withholds sustenance. North Carolina will not feel its largesse. It will starve. It cannot go on without it. When the small cells busy feeding off of it, the students, the workers, feel the pain, the body convulses. The governor will be gone.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 9, 2016 at 10:48 pm #

          Glad you are right about one thing this week at least. The Transgenders are being used to break what’s left of Western Civilization, just like the Gay, minorities, Muslims, etc.

    • MisterDarling May 9, 2016 at 9:42 pm #

      @ Frankiti:

      RE | “There is nothing sinister afoot. There is no secretive group of state, police, or intelligence people secretly guarding the wheelhouse and keeping this ship on an even keel.”-f.

      There are however a bunch of interlinked racketeers who all talk together and who have over time developed a common organizational language and culture. They can’t help it. Every time they turn around they’re stepping on each others financial ‘dicks’ – so to speak. We see the same thing in organized crime.

      Since they rely on the same source of sustenance (hello taxpayer) they cooperate to some extent. You don’t need an over-arching ‘master-plan’ when you’ve got a prevailing and self-sustaining ‘culture of criminality’.

      • michael May 11, 2016 at 12:59 pm #

        I disagree. The deep state is a transnational conspiracy with the goal to save the planet by completely emasculating the ordinary individual, then herding the sheep into big cities and restrict their freedom of — just about everything — by simply depriving them of the means to anything.

        Case in point: in the EU the War On Cash is moving forward and the abolition of the 500 Euro note is the next target (after many member states have enacted upper limits on the size of a cash transaction (1000 Euros in France for example).

        Once cash is abolished your existence can be snuffed out at the flick of a button — completely “nonviolently”.

        The Bundesbank (German Central Bank) just published an opinion arguing strongly against it. It will be to no avail. Reflect upon what that means: even the Bundesbank cannot stand up to the Beast of Revelation and it certainly is an insider of the Leviathan.

        • Frankiti May 11, 2016 at 6:26 pm #

          And let me guess this pact was sealed in a Bilderberg or Bavarian Grove meeting…

          “Gentlemen, I have an idea: let’s trap the hoi polloi in cities and take away cash, yes, the cities where we ourselves prefer to live and take the cash that we need them to spend on the products we provide… just hear me out…”

          “I like zee cut of zyour jib Herr Wingerson!”

          “Herr Ztephanopoulos, and Meezter Figure Skater Kerr, you look puzzled?”

  29. wpa_ccc May 9, 2016 at 6:02 pm #

    “The Deep State is also the sum of unintended consequences and diminishing returns of a late-stage, bureaucratic, techno-industrial economy cannibalizing itself to stay alive.” –JHK

    Jim, the biggest racket, the biggest bureaucracy of all is the military and the military is cannibalizing 44% our national economy to pay for the costs of current and past military adventures.

    The government practice of combining Trust and Federal funds began during the Vietnam War, thus making the human needs portion of the budget seem larger and the military portion smaller.

    Analysts differ on how much of the national debt stems from the military; some groups estimate 50% to 60%. Others use 80% because if there had been no military spending most (if not all) of the national debt would have been eliminated.

  30. Bro Jobe May 9, 2016 at 7:49 pm #

    1) I have been missing the Honey Boo Boo references. Thank you Jim for bringing that back into focus.

    2) For the hell of it, let’s suppose Trump did win the general election without GOP support. How long would it take the military to depose him?

    Seriously. This is looking more and more like A World Made By Hand.

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  31. Frankiti May 9, 2016 at 8:22 pm #

    Ross Perot had James Stockade as a running mate. We should be so lucky for a James Stockade in a leadership role. Here was a principled, thoughtful, mannered, contemplative and well-bred leader and what does he receive from the American media pablum-swillers? Mockery. Contemptible mockery. Americans lapped it up. The jokes about his senility, about his measured and thought-out responses. The pensive do not deliver clever soundbites. They deliver meaning and solutions.

    Again, we deserve the leadership we shall receive. A nation of mirror fogging dimwits deserve what we get. What perplexes me is this host’s expectation, his anticipation of someone or something better.

    We do not deserve it.

    • messianicdruid May 9, 2016 at 9:04 pm #

      Frank Herbert said something like, You can judge a civilization [ maybe it was government or society ] by the training it’s leaders received.

    • pequiste May 10, 2016 at 12:41 am #

      Pardon the correction Frankiti, but the man in question, Ross Perot’s running mate in 1992, was James B. Stockdale, Vice Admiral, U.S.N.
      Medal of Honor winner plus recipient of a host of other high decorations.

      Your characterization of him, however, is correct. Adm. Stockdale was a paradigm of leadership and military virtue.

      What we have now are “mirror fogging dimwits” as both electorate and candidates.

      Unfortunately we are going to get what we deserve — good and hard I’m afraid.

      • Frankiti May 10, 2016 at 5:11 am #

        I am really tired of this spell check worthless feature. I know its Stockdale, but this lousy computer places into a box called stockade and I rarely look up at the screen to see what it has done.

        • Q. Shtik May 10, 2016 at 11:36 am #


          Read slowly everything you have written at least once or better yet twice before you click on the submit button. It is similar to the carpenters admonition: “measure twice, cut once.”

          • daveed May 10, 2016 at 12:56 pm #

            Reminds me of my late father’s oft-repeated carpentry one-liner:

            “I’ve cut it twice, and it’s still too short”

          • Frankiti May 10, 2016 at 5:13 pm #

            Fine advice surely, but then again I’m not submitting a thesis or an entry for a literary journal… I really can’t be bothered, this isn’t exactly the audience of Harper’s. Now, I take exception with my proper noun errors as it only causes confusion. Same for incorrect usage like “begging the question”.

            As for the other mistakes… “pedantry is the dotage of knowledge”

  32. shabbaranks May 9, 2016 at 8:24 pm #

    And in other news, an LA to SF in 30 minutes hyperloop train….

    Technogrift, technofantasy, or perhaps reality one day?


  33. FincaInTheMountains May 9, 2016 at 8:55 pm #

    Trump is a good man

    Suffice it to say that he was for 20 years involved with beauty pageants and no one has ever seriously accused him of sexual harassment and the fashion industry where there’s a lot of beautiful women, it’s like a box filled with black mambas.

    And believe me, they’re trying as hell to come up with any dirt on him.


  34. MisterDarling May 9, 2016 at 9:33 pm #

    AMERICAN MILITARY headcounts are lower than any time in decades. For example;


    It’s typical for idiots to confuse military PEOPLE (soldiers, sailors etc.) with military SPENDING. The vast majority of ‘military’ spending goes to defense industry racketeers like Lockheed Martin who pay out millions to secure multi-billion-dollar contracts to build crap military people did not ask for and do not need.

    • FincaInTheMountains May 9, 2016 at 10:19 pm #

      Yeah, there’s lots of work for Trump to clean up that Augean stables.

      American taxpayers spending a shit load more than Russian and getting crap for their money.

      • MisterDarling May 10, 2016 at 12:17 am #

        @ FitM;

        “American taxpayers spending a shit load more than Russian and getting crap for their money.”

        When military people see the bang-to-buck ratio comparison between the USA and major players in the rest of the world, they get pissed… And then they plan.

  35. FincaInTheMountains May 9, 2016 at 10:26 pm #

    Actually, that wikimedia photo of attacking black mamba would make a nice logo for election campaign of Deep Throat Hillary.


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  36. Pucker May 9, 2016 at 10:35 pm #

    Definition of the Deep State from the book “The Deep State”:

    “They are symptoms of a shadow government ruling the United States that pays little heed to the plain words of the Constitution. Its governing philosophy profoundly influences foreign and national security policy and such domestic matters as spending priorities, trade, investment, income inequality, privatization of government services, media presentation of news, and the whole meaning and worth of citizens’ participation in their government. I have come to call this shadow government the Deep State. The term was actually coined in Turkey, and is said to be a system composed of high-level elements within the intelligence services, military, security, judiciary, and organized crime. In John le Carré’s recent novel A Delicate Truth, a character in the book describes the Deep State as “the ever-expanding circle of non-governmental insiders from banking, industry and commerce who were cleared for highly classified information denied to large swathes of Whitehall and Westminster.” I use the term to mean a hybrid association of key elements of government and parts of top-level finance and industry that is effectively able to govern the United States with only limited reference to the consent of the governed as normally expressed through elections. The Deep State is the big story of our time. It is the red thread that runs through the war on terrorism and the militarization of foreign policy, the financialization and deindustrialization of the American economy, the rise of a plutocratic social structure that has given us the most unequal society in almost a century, and the political dysfunction that has paralyzed day-to-day governance.”

    “The Deep State”, Mike Lofgren

  37. Pucker May 9, 2016 at 10:39 pm #

    Speaking of the Deep State:

    “While KGB officers found him puzzling, they did not regard him as a master CIA spy. He did not snoop around secure areas. And despite his military service, the Russians learned that he was a bad shot. When Oswald went on expeditions with his factory hunting club in Minsk, he never could hit anything. A co-worker took pity on him once and shot a rabbit for him.”

    “The Devil’s Chessboard”

    • elysianfield May 10, 2016 at 12:26 pm #

      Yes, but the Warren Commission, by default, declared the 1891
      Mannlicher -Carcano rifle was the fastest shooting, most accurate military rifle ever devised….

      • MisterDarling May 10, 2016 at 9:05 pm #

        LOL 😉

  38. Buck Stud May 9, 2016 at 10:44 pm #

    I’m afraid the country has bigger problems than a few flawed political candidates. Take “Red State” Texas for example. Voters in McKinney, Texas approved a 63 million dollar stadium. And not just any ol’ college football facility but a High School stadium, for God’s sake!

    And people wonder why Trump is the GOP nominee.


    • Q. Shtik May 9, 2016 at 11:55 pm #

      And people wonder why Trump is the GOP nominee. – Buck


      Why? Has Trump come out against the building of expensive HS football stadiums?

    • BackRowHeckler May 10, 2016 at 12:51 am #

      Hey Buck, did the article state whether or not this new stadium will feature transvestite bathrooms. I know its an important issue for democrats, perhaps the most important issue. Will it be in the platform? On the top line?


      • Sticks-of-TNT May 10, 2016 at 5:27 pm #

        “…whether or not this new stadium will feature [transvestite] bathrooms”(?) -brh


        I believe transvestites are scheduled on the progressive’s inclusionary agenda for next year.

        Don’t forget to update the LGQT MICKEY OUSOB wall charts in your community school classrooms, church fellowship halls and office/store breakrooms.

        Peace & love,

  39. Pucker May 9, 2016 at 11:08 pm #

    According to Howard Hunt’s deathbed confession to Hunt’s son, CIA hatchet man, Bill Harvey (who worked out of the CIA’s Rome office and who was in Dallas on 22 November 1963) recruited professional Corsican snipers to whack JFK. Lee Harvey Oswald was just a patsy. Ozzie was a subject of the CIA MKULTRA mind control experiments had been pumped up with copious amounts of LSD while Ozzie was in Japan.

    “Devil’s Chessboard”

    • Florida Power May 10, 2016 at 7:25 am #

      I was in Dallas last week for a convention. The bus that ran to my hotel went through Dealey Plaza. After multiple transits I conclude the Secret Service was either complicit or incompetent. A better kill space could not be had in all of North America.

      • elysianfield May 10, 2016 at 12:35 pm #

        Many years ago, I found myself in Dallas, and I walked the Plaza, and noticed that the storm drain, at the base of the Grassy Knoll was in the correct position and angle for the final kill shot on Kennedy. It is said that the drain empties 3/4 of a mile away on the Guadalupe (?) river. I also recall reading that before the Kennedy assassination, manhole covers were not welded shut, as they are now done routinely during presidential visits.

    • malthuss May 10, 2016 at 2:14 pm #

      And the motive or putative reason for the killing?

      • Florida Power May 10, 2016 at 9:17 pm #

        Not sure which indentation implies response to whom, but:

        JFK had made a few enemies. The most glaring being the CIA after firing Dulles. The mafia for his brother’s passion. And so legend has it the Federal Reserve for wishing to place Congress back in charge of the “coinage”. And finally the Military Industrial Complex which needed the Vietnam War to extend its legitimacy. Some opine JFK was intent on winding down the US engagement.

        The first two were sufficient.

        As time goes by I believe the assassination of JFK and his brother mark a watershed in the evolution of the Deep State. I got into a discussion on the hotel bus with some folks intent on espying the x-marks in the street where Kennedy was hit. One could not accept LBJ’s involvement. but was open to the concept of more than one gunman. What a joke. There are/were two multi-story brick buildings that overlook the roadway from the rear, an overpass from the front, and grassy knolls from the vehicle passenger side. Were Secret Service populating these obvious threats history could have been far different.

  40. MisterDarling May 10, 2016 at 12:12 am #

    @ Elrond:

    The “Nazi troll” is not generally welcome on this site. In the words of Mister Kunstler:

    “I’ve warned Janos not to publish vicious doggerel like this on my site. I am going to leave it up so you know what I’m referring to. But all of this race-baiting and Jew-bashing disgusts and embarrasses me. This goes for all of you.”-J H K, 2/4/2015.

    RE | “Sometimes the temptation is just too great. I won’t leave Janos in particular unanswered — not for his own sake, since he’s a lost cause, but for the greater good. Trolls in general rely on people either being too intimidated to take them on or just giving up in disgust. I want to at least be able to say that I took my own side in a fight.”-e h.

    There are people on this site who enjoy having a yappy little pet fascist farting up the place, distracting the commentary from more productive lines of inquiry, making it cozy for their little old men’s club. If we didn’t periodically snap a sharp line between us and that nonsense, onlookers might be confused.


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    • Janos Skorenzy May 10, 2016 at 12:20 am #

      Your little world is coming to an end. Soon White Men will know better than to fight thousands of miles way while the war is on our own southern border.

    • malthuss May 10, 2016 at 2:16 pm #


      11 year old arrested in hate crime against Jews.
      Guess the 4 “youths” race?

    • michael May 11, 2016 at 1:08 pm #

      Janos obviously is not serious. Have you not caught on to that yet?

      • MisterDarling May 12, 2016 at 9:07 pm #

        Michael, I thought that as well – 2 years ago. Cheers!

  41. wpa_ccc May 10, 2016 at 12:34 am #


    May 9 — Ryan told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on Monday that if Trump asks him to step down as convention chair, he’ll comply. “He’s the nominee,” Ryan said. “I’ll do whatever he wants with respect to the convention.”


    I think Trump should remove Ryan, and replace him with someone like the former House leader, Dennis Hastert, who also knows about rape and rapists. (“Mexico is sending its rapists” –Trump)

    Ivana described one sexual encounter with her ex-husband as a “violent assault,” going as far as to characterize it as rape. (see the book: “Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump”)

  42. wpa_ccc May 10, 2016 at 12:41 am #

    “I’m not a constitutional scholar so I can’t necessarily say, but are you eligible to run if you are a man-baby or a baby man? I’m not here to be politically incorrect, if they’re referred to as man-baby Americans, but Trump is a man-baby. He has the physical countenance of a man and a baby’s temperament and hands. I don’t know that a man-baby can be president. Character is destiny, and Trump is the most thin-skinned individual.” –Jon Stewart

    • Florida Power May 10, 2016 at 7:47 am #

      Jon Stewart has spoken. Or is that hath?

      • Frankiti May 10, 2016 at 4:51 pm #

        He’s such a smug self-righteous prick. The more the media mouths bash trump and attempt mind control, the more the public rejects it. They cannot face the fact that media as arbiter of opinion is gone.

        • MisterDarling May 10, 2016 at 9:06 pm #

          “They cannot face the fact that media as arbiter of opinion is gone.”-f.


  43. tucsonspur May 10, 2016 at 12:57 am #

    Finca, put down the vodka.

    Plans put on hold does not mean that they’re terminated.

    In October of 2016, the basket of currencies that comprise the SDR will be extended to include the Chinese renminbi.

    I mentioned the 2015 establishment of the AIIB. I also mentioned the Shanghai Accords, but not its 57 signatories.

    I can’t say for certain if it will happen, but all the activity seems to be making it more of a possibility.

    • FincaInTheMountains May 10, 2016 at 4:11 am #

      Yes, that was a plan – not such a big secret. But Americans (National Bureaucracy headed by Obama) rebelled and scrapped the plans for obvious reasons. For public, that rebellion was expressed as Strauss Kahn arrest in New York and refusal by US Senate to ratify the agreement on new IMF quotas.

      Now, since new Breton Woods is not even on horizon, the most plausible scenario is split into separate currency zones with City of London Money Changers acting as middlemen between the zones.

      They actively support Trump, by the way.

      FYI: I don’t drink vodka, only 180 proof sugar cane alcohol.

      • elysianfield May 10, 2016 at 12:39 pm #

        Drinking uncut 180 proof alcohol is fatal.

        • FincaInTheMountains May 10, 2016 at 3:02 pm #

          Not for Russians. But rest assured, I limit myself to just couple of pints.

        • Sticks-of-TNT May 10, 2016 at 7:51 pm #

          Only if they light cigarettes while drinking.

          • MisterDarling May 10, 2016 at 9:07 pm #

            LOL… nice.

    • FincaInTheMountains May 10, 2016 at 4:27 am #

      The main purpose of AIIB is to intercept the control of the dollar mass outside of the United States from American banks and to maintain the relative value of “external” US dollars (to some degree).

      They have already stated that they’re going to lend exclusively in US dollars, not in Chinese Yuan.

      Personally, I believe that the split of US Dollar into two contours of circulation is inevitable at this moment, with “external” dollar quoted at a higher rate.

      All that fuss about putting black women on the dollar bills – part of the separation plan.

  44. wpa_ccc May 10, 2016 at 2:33 am #

    “The vast majority of ‘military’ spending goes to defense industry racketeers like Lockheed Martin…” –Mister Darling

    Actually, 19% of our military spending goes to cover the cost of past wars through payouts for Veterans’ Benefits of $179 billion and Interest on national debt of $409 billion (80% estimated to be created by military spending).

    Another 25% of the federal budget (of total outlays to DoD of $586 billion) goes for:

    Military Spending

    • Military Personnel costing $146 billion
    • Operation & Maintenance costing $255 billion,
    • Construction $8 billion
    • Family Housing $1 billion
    • Revolving Management $3 billion

    $41 billion for Overseas Contingency Operations (“war on terror”) included in $586 DoD budget

    Non-DoD Military Spending:*

    • Retiree Pay/Healthcare $82 billion
    • DoE nuke weapons/clean-up $21 billion
    • NASA (50%) $10 billion
    • Internl. Security Asst. $13 billion
    • Homeland Secur. (military) $34 billion
    • State Dept. (partial) $10 billion
    • FBI military $9 billion
    • other $3 billion

    *based on coding and the military nature of activities, such as armed border control, DoD space flights, etc.

    Military procurement is $103 billion and Military Research & Dev. is $71 billion, totaling another $174 billion. I suspect your “defense industry racketeers” are part of this category.

    Contrary to your assertion that military spending is being spent for “multi-billion-dollar contracts to build crap military people did not ask for and do not need,” the majority of these weapons systems being procured, researched, and developed are the result of military people appearing before congressional committees saying they want the weapons and research. Only a few weapons systems are foisted upon the military by congress (for political reasons) without Pentagon approval.

    Mister Darling, I hope you can now appreciate that it is not true that “The vast majority of ‘military’ spending goes to defense industry racketeers like Lockheed Martin…” as you say.


    The figures cited are public record for the U.S. FEDERAL BUDGET 2017 FISCAL YEAR

    • Q. Shtik May 10, 2016 at 10:58 am #

      wpa said:

      Mister Darling, I hope you can now appreciate that it is not true that “The vast majority of ‘military’ spending goes to defense industry racketeers like Lockheed Martin…” as you say.


      Mister Darling, be advised that at another time on another day wpa has presented the opposite (180 degrees) argument concerning military/defense contractors when it served his purposes to do so. His purpose, of course, was to slam me and my employer of 26 years. Does he contradict himself? Well then he contradicts himself. He is large and contains multitudes.

      • Frankiti May 10, 2016 at 4:42 pm #

        Don’t engage it. Its an argumentative nebulous blob that always takes the contrary, its point is to only refute a point…. like a writer for Slate.

        • MisterDarling May 10, 2016 at 9:03 pm #

          Well, I may if I think it enhances our collective appreciation for the rackets the comprise Modern American Existence. Besides, it tickles me that this goofball thinks he/she/it has a solid argument… 😉

      • MisterDarling May 10, 2016 at 9:40 pm #

        @ Q,

        Thanks, good to know. By the way, I’m not anti-defense contractor. I’ve got no high-horse to get on in that regard.

  45. wpa_ccc May 10, 2016 at 2:45 am #


    Actually, the “DoD welfare” payouts far exceed other similar federal government safety net payouts for civilians, on a per capita basis.

    Defense welfare, paid directly to military people, dominates the federal budget. No civilian is paid $850,000 a year in welfare benefits, but that is the per capita cost to keep soldiers in the field in Afghanistan.

    Keeping one American service member in Afghanistan costs between $850,000 and $1.4 million a year, depending on who you ask. But one matter is clear, that cost is going up.

    During a budget hearing today on Capitol Hill, Sen. Kent Conrad, D-North Dakota, asked Department of Defense leaders, “What is the cost per soldier, to maintain a soldier for a year in Afghanistan?” Under Secretary Robert Hale, the Pentagon comptroller, responded “Right now about $850,000 per soldier.”

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  46. BackRowHeckler May 10, 2016 at 4:13 am #

    Here’s how things have changed in the United States in regard to the US Armed Forces.

    The DoD is looking for a new sidearm to replace to 9mm Beretta they’ve been using since 1983. So far its taken 8 years and $17 million has been spent, still, no new gun.

    In 1941 the Army wanted a handy carbine to arm tank and artillery crews, and truck drivers. They took their request to Winchester in New Haven. In 11 days the Winchester company had a design, a model, and were tooled up. Production on the .30 cal. M1 Carbine began on the 12th day, and over 5 million were manufactured by the end of the war.


    • ozone May 10, 2016 at 10:22 am #

      That is, hands down, THE best “brush gun” it’s ever been my privilege to handle. Light, thoroughly dependable and deadly accurate with plenty of punch. Just fine without the delicate appendage of a scope, although you could outfit one with a carrying case for crashing through the woods, I suppose. I wonder if Winchester had to be bribed with 17 mil. (in 1941 $) to come up with it? I kinda doubt it.

      Maybe the Italians or Brazilians can come up with a replica; that’s how it’s done, these here days. Gotta keep that global labor competition goin’ ya know. 😉

      • MisterDarling May 10, 2016 at 9:16 pm #

        “Light, thoroughly dependable and deadly accurate with plenty of punch.”-oz.

        Agreed and can vouch. Great deer gun too, unsurprisingly. There’s a reason why 6.5 million were made (and mostly used). The consummate carbine.

  47. I AM SULLY May 10, 2016 at 5:25 am #


    (you have no choice – but the Hobson’s choice …)

  48. I AM SULLY May 10, 2016 at 6:53 am #

    Errata: “conventionas”

    Also – “mephitic” and “pettifoggery”?

    (those are $1,000 dollar words)

  49. FincaInTheMountains May 10, 2016 at 8:54 am #

    US are introducing a compulsory military registration for women

    Another victory of “tolerance” over the common sense

    Republican Congressman from California, a member of the Defense Committee Duncan Hunter did not want anything bad. He just wanted to show the absurdity of the situation in the formation of combat units for the US armed forces.

    He succeeded in showing the absurdity of the current situation, “the terror of tolerance” in the American political system.

    In December 2015 the Minister of Defense Ash Carter, the fourth head of the Pentagon, who not for a day in his life has worn military uniform even as a reservist, has announced that he opened all military positions without exception, including in the combat specialties, to women.

    The voices of those who argued that even in sports, there are different competitions for women and men; that many types of military equipment of the US Army is simply not adapted to the female body; that the experience of the Israel, where women have long and successfully served in combat units, shows – it is effective when the commanders in detail consider who exactly are his soldiers, male or female, and not when ignoring the difference…

    This was announced sexism.

    As a result, Congress was forced to put in place the legal framework – of course, Ash Carter, in his desire to enter into the history of the United States armed forces, did not think of such thing as law.

    And then another member of the Armed Services Committee, Duncan Hunter, the father of two daughters, spoiled the entire game.

    Hunter is the only one in Congress who is a veteran of both Iraq and Afghanistan.

    As a combat officer, he has repeatedly seen how much blood and death brings the “gender equality” on the battlefield. He understood what price America would have to pay for Ash Carter desire to please glossy women’s magazines.

    Hoping to show the absurdity of the decision of the head of the Pentagon, Congressman Hunter “with regret”, as he himself said in his opening remarks, said that now he is compelled to amend the legislation that women must participate in a compulsory military registration.

    Of course, Congressman Hunter himself campaigned and voted against his own bill. But he remained in the minority.

    • Sticks-of-TNT May 10, 2016 at 11:12 am #

      Hoisted on his own petard.

      And Sec’y Ash Carter is a mega-douche.


  50. liber8tor May 10, 2016 at 9:18 am #

    “It’s a blood-sucking beast of a hundred-thousand heads draining the USA of its dwindling vitality…”

    That sums it up, Jim. Well said.

    Max Keiser made a similar comparison the other day. He said that, “…the USA has become a freeway that is all toll booths and no cars.”

    The 1% and their lackey politicians have offshored all jobs, busted the unions, destroyed the infrastructure and sucked the economy dry.

    Who is going to pay the politicians salary? Who is going to buy the corporate product?

    The only answer that comes to mind is something about killing a golden goose, defecate where you eat, spit into the wind and cry over spilt civilizations.

    One last cliché… stick a fork in the USA.. we are done.

    The only answer that comes to mind is something about

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  51. Dumbedup May 10, 2016 at 9:37 am #

    Someone sent me a video trying to show the difference between Hillary and Trump on immigration. There are clips showing Hillary arguing that historically and morally the US has always permitted immigration and Trump arguing that immigration is destroying Europe and it has to stop. However, Hillary is talking about “legal” immigration whereas Trump is talking about stopping “illegal” immigration. Where they diverge is on Muslim immigration and refugees. Trump wants to bring even the legal immigration of Muslims to a halt to give us time to assess the consequences. To me, that seems like a rational and reasonable thing to do if we are being told the truth. What I cannot tell is whether Europe is truly coming unraveled by Muslim immigration or if it is propaganda. I have friends who live in Bremen (Germany) and they have said they see no evidence whatsoever of the violence we are being told is being spread through Germany by these refugees. Perhaps they are being lied to? Is our news more reliable?

    • Janos Skorenzy May 10, 2016 at 1:27 pm #

      I wish you were joking but I know you aren’t. Where does one begin with someone like you? Quotation marks around legal and illegal – meaning what? You think it a meaningless distinction? Now, that’s bizarre. But I grant you that endless legal immigration will destroy us just as surely in the end.

      Maybe you need some new friends, perhaps ones not exactly like you? You know, diversity? Even conventional sources have talked about the huge increase in crime since the immigration explosion. But your friends think that a million plus young men from an alien culture marching in is perfectly normal, just a Gay Pride parade. And the “refugees” are so attractive – dressed in designer clothes no less. They don’t get the utter dissonance of well dressed refugees. They are used to foreigners being sharp dressers, after all.

      This just happened in the last 24 hours. Not “Islamist terrorism” thank God. Just a Muslim yelling Allahu Akbar and stabbing people. He was mentally ill and/or on drugs. Normal Muslims don’t do things like that. Just ask your friends. Everyone knows that Islam was spread peacefully. Everyone is Happy nowadays! Better a gram than a damn. Orgy porgy!


      • Janos Skorenzy May 10, 2016 at 9:09 pm #

        If you even watched the mainstream news, you would know about the mass Cologne sex attacks – over a thousand complaints in Cologne alone on New Year’s Eve. Same thing to a lesser degree in other German and Swedish cities. But you’re too busy or prefer to get your new from sites you like. See the problem? Confirmation bias. Facebook perhaps? Big scandal has come out – they’re totally biased against conservative issue. Not an algorithm but liberal editors.

        Here Dumbledore, learn.


        • Q. Shtik May 10, 2016 at 10:42 pm #

          But you’re too busy or prefer to get your new from sites you like. See the problem? Confirmation bias. – Janos


          Hey dailystormer boy, your a fine one to be complaining about confirmation bias.

          • Q. Shtik May 10, 2016 at 10:52 pm #

            …to get your [new] from sites you like. – Janos


            We have a tiny post-it-note size publication in town. That is where I get local ‘new.’ For more thorough ‘news’ I read the NYT.

            I can’t resist bustin’ a few chops tonight. I hope Jim’s not watching.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 11, 2016 at 3:52 am #

            Daily Stormer is one of the premier New Sites in the English Language. Basically, what Time Magazine/NY Times once was. To put it another way, I knew about the Cologne Atrocity, but Dumbledore didn’t. He’s doing something very wrong. You knew, but didn’t think it was important since the editors of Times don’t. After all, it was only Whites. And Germans at that.

    • michael May 11, 2016 at 1:25 pm #

      Yes, we are being lied to. State propaganda media (i.e. the MSM here)
      are forbidden to report on violence spread by refugees. I have this second hand from someone whose son works for a state TV company.

      It has become public konwledge that police internal reports (not for public consumption) were diametrically opposed in their threat assessment to public statements of high level police.

      I certainly hope that is no surpise to you. Not only are you being lied to
      but also manipulated in more subtle ways. False stories are continuously planted into US national and international media, under Bush there was an official agency for that which Bush then promised to close down. There is simply a steady undercurrent of propaganda to steer the sheep in the right direction.

  52. wpa_ccc May 10, 2016 at 11:47 am #

    Elect Trump. Destroy Conservatism.

    “Conservatives can survive liberal administrations, especially those whose predictable failures lead to healthy restorations—think Carter, then Reagan. What isn’t survivable is a Republican president who is part Know Nothing, part Smoot-Hawley and part John Birch. The stain of a Trump administration would cripple the conservative cause for a generation.” –WSJ

    • Q. Shtik May 10, 2016 at 12:38 pm #

      You know the Dems are in trouble if wpa is trying to save Conservatism.

    • FincaInTheMountains May 10, 2016 at 2:53 pm #

      Elect Trump. Destroy Conservatism.

      Elect Trump. Preserve common sense.

    • JimInFlorida May 11, 2016 at 9:50 am #

      What is modern conservatism but a heavily-cloaked endorsement of capitalist imperialism, the Top 1%, and the Divine Right of finance capital over all that is held in bondage to secure its claims? Modern conservatism uses moral hypocrisy and a perverse reading of Holy Scripture to justify the above.

      Modern conservatives are COWARDS because most say that they are “fiscally conservative and socially liberal.” That means they hide behind the Seven Deadly Sins where wealth is stolen from the laborer and there is no safe place for the righteous in society.

      I would argue that Franklin D Roosevelt is a real conservative. He marshaled the powers of Government to rescue the social fabric and reward Labor for its input. He waged war upon the banksters and puts the chains of the New Deal upon them to make them behave. Of course, he couldn’t do everything and he was forced to make compromises with the Top 1% of his day. But, the New Deal’s intentions were truly CONSERVATIVE because the NORMS of a healthy society were defended.

  53. saharasergei May 10, 2016 at 12:29 pm #

    Al Gore was actually elected President, and a recount in Florida would have proven that. Dig this:


    • Sticks-of-TNT May 10, 2016 at 4:55 pm #

      Forgive me for questioning your source’s bona fides or your own investigative chops, but a one paragraph entry (not including his ridiculous ‘election year riddle’ and multiple choice answer tease) from an obscure blog posted almost four years ago hardly qualifies as stunning new bombshell revelations capable of blowing the lid off a sixteen year old Presidential election controversy.

      You need to up your game quite a bit if you intend to compete in the CFN arena. Dig?

  54. dweebus May 10, 2016 at 12:45 pm #


    “mephitic fumes”. You do have a way with words, Sir!

    “The truth is, there will be a lot less material wealth of the kind we’re used to, and a lot less capital representation in the things we call “money.” In fact, the scene at hand today is just a spectacle of the shrewdest and biggest rodents scarfing up the table-scraps of a 200-year-long banquet…

    …Both parties are close to blowing up altogether. I’m not convinced that they’ll survive their own conventions this summer. Then what?”

    Yes, indeed. There will be a lot less goodies to go ’round. There are already is. The consequences of this is what led to Trump and Sanders launching off like a bottle rocket.

    Then what? A nasty convulsion or a slow ragged slide. At some point putting up beans and tomatoes for the winter will be more important than skin color, “the Market”, or who you wanna sleep with.

    Between here and there? Well, the Four Riders will take a massive toll.

    Shit, kinda sucks.

    “Meanwhile, the underclass, ” America’s flexible labor force” (one must be pretty flexible to get screwed in some of the positions we are asked to), or whatever you choose to call the unwashed throngs mucking around down here at the bottom of the national tier, are nevertheless politically potent, if sufficiently taunted and fed enough bullshit.”. -Joe Bageant (Rainbow Pie)

    • Q. Shtik May 10, 2016 at 1:22 pm #

      There are already is. – dweebus



      A perfect example of “measure twice, cut once.”

      • ozone May 10, 2016 at 7:44 pm #

        Notwithstanding your whining meanderings into the rarified air of the petulant didact, Dweebus has made some very sharp points. It appears they’ve wounded the corpus of your beloved status quo to the quick, evidenced by your desperate pouncing on a missing “are”. …That would be what we might term a ‘recurring phenomena’ and something that’s become typical and eminently disregardable.

        • Q. Shtik May 10, 2016 at 9:53 pm #

          a ‘recurring phenomena’ – Oz



      • dweebus May 11, 2016 at 3:50 am #


        Are, phenomena, W/E. If a pun is the lowest form of humor then grammatical corrections are the lowest form of internet debate. Put away the red pen pal, it ain’t impressive.


        • sprawlcapital May 16, 2016 at 2:50 am #

          Keep up the good work, Q.

  55. Q. Shtik May 10, 2016 at 1:13 pm #

    To Elrond, Mister Darling, venuspluto67, et al,

    I notice on the internet that when one disagrees vehemently with the world view of another but you are unable to win a written debate to save your ass, the next strategy is to accuse your nemesis of being a Troll. I think this is covered on the first day of Blogging 101 is it not?

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    • Janos Skorenzy May 10, 2016 at 1:42 pm #

      They are little Pelosis and Obamas. They carry water for their masters. And like them, they aspire towards egalitarianism and that, being a lie, makes everything else they say into a lie.

      Thus War is Peace.
      Freedom is Slavery.
      Diversity is Uniformity.
      And Free Speech means Censorship.

      SJ got the ball rolling (no doubt freaked out by the prospect of a normal White Guy becoming President) and the rest of these under-men have piled on.

      Great new Fred, but as a guest columnist. I don’t know if it’s going to be up on his site or not. In any case, it’s too good too miss.


      • wpa_ccc May 10, 2016 at 1:54 pm #

        Diversity is Strength.

        Diversity improves the way people think. By disrupting conformity, racial and ethnic diversity prompts people to scrutinize facts, think more deeply and develop their own opinions. Research findings show that such diversity actually benefits everyone, minorities and majority alike.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 10, 2016 at 3:12 pm #

          So even though Whites are Devils, Blacks want to cling to us because they want to challenge themselves and think more deeply? I’ve never noticed them doing any such thing. I think they want to torment us and suck off us at the same time. Note: some Blacks do like to live among their own – as long as they are being supported by us it’s all good (for them).

          Fred’s questions to BLM remain: what exactly do they propose? Or is bitching an end in itself or a means to get more stuff? Or both, but certainly not any attempt to come up with real answers and specific policies based on them.

        • Elrond Hubbard May 10, 2016 at 6:28 pm #

          wpa: All credit to your good will, but Janos is a lost cause. It’s theoretically possible he may come around one day, but the possibility is so remote that reasonable people can find better uses for their time without regret.

          The effort is better spent on correcting the record. For example, Janos calls egalitarianism a lie. It’s not: it’s a value, in fact the fundamental American value: “All men are created equal”. Meaning not that there’s no difference between people, but that people are equal before the law — the opposite of the entrenched privilege against which the Founding Fathers rebelled.

          Being an authentic fascist and an authoritarian bigot, Janos dismisses this fundamental American value with contempt. The creed of the authentically fascist authoritarian bigot goes like this instead: “Freedom is not free, free men are not equal and equal men are not free.” In other words, Janos places his hatreds and bigotries on a par with laws of nature, and won’t consider himself “free” until he has a free hand to kick his (perceived) lessers in the teeth and an alpha to pat him on the head and tell him he’s a good boy.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 10, 2016 at 7:05 pm #

            One throwaway line by Jefferson, based on his passing infatuation with the French Revolution, was all it took to create this monster. A thousand years of English common law and thousands of years of Western Culture all out the window to be replaced by this crap by dreamed up by the Judeo-Masons and promulgated by these fools and knaves, jackals and hyenas.

            Kurt Vonnegut also mocked this kind of crap – one of the last sane Liberals. After that, it was taken over by the Left. Also see Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s “Report on the Black Family”. It couldn’t be written today – he’s be drummed out of office.

            The American Ideal is equal opportunity and rights – not equal results. Equal results could only be attained by equal people, both individually and racially. There are no such individuals and races. Equality is a useful abstraction for mathematics and law. Allwrong thinks it’s a fact (or pretends to!) and when he doesn’t find it in the actual world, think he has the right to ruin Whites and White institutions because minorities don’t measure up.

          • Elrond Hubbard May 10, 2016 at 9:35 pm #

            One throwaway line? Y’know, I never saw it that way till now. I’d always understood that Americans thought very highly of their declaration of independence — in fact, that it represented the highest principles to which they aspire, for which they would fight and die — but Janos would have us think it was all just a big misunderstanding?

            Let’s try it out: “When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another… a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires, I dunno, some kind of meaningless throwaway verbiage to mark the occasion, I guess. So let’s tack something up on the courthouse door quick, so we can get back to whipping darkies.” Sure, that has a ring all its own.

            Or maybe Janos really is an anti-American American, an enemy of his own country who despises everything it stands for.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 10, 2016 at 11:50 pm #

            He was talking about Whites. Here is what he thought about Blacks:

            Jefferson’s Notes on the State of Virginia

            It will probably be asked, Why not retain and incorporate the blacks into the state, and thus save the expence of supplying, by importation of white settlers, the vacancies they will leave? Deep rooted prejudices entertained by the whites; ten thousand recollections, by the blacks, of the injuries they have sustained; new provocations; the real distinctions which nature has made; and many other circumstances, will divide us into parties, and produce convulsions which will probably never end but in the extermination of the one or the other race. — To these objections, which are political, may be added others, which are physical and moral. The first difference which strikes us is that of colour. Whether the black of the negro resides in the reticular membrane between the skin and scarf-skin, or in the scarf-skin itself; whether it proceeds from the colour of the blood, the colour of the bile, or from that of some other secretion, the difference is fixed in nature, and is as real as if its seat and cause were better known to us. And is this difference of no importance? Is it not the foundation of a greater or less share of beauty in the two races? Are not the fine mixtures of red and white, the expressions of every passion by greater or less suffusions of colour in the one, preferable to that eternal monotony, which reigns in the countenances, that immoveable veil of black which covers all the emotions of the other race? Add to these, flowing hair, a more elegant symmetry of form, their own judgment in favour of the whites, declared by their preference of them, as uniformly as is the preference of the Oranootan for the black women over those of his own species. The circumstance of superior beauty, is thought worthy attention in the propagation of our horses, dogs, and other domestic animals; why not in that of man? Besides those of colour, figure, and hair, there are other physical distinctions proving a difference of race. They have less hair on the face and body. They secrete less by the kidnies, and more by the glands of the skin, which gives them a very strong and disagreeable odour. This greater degree of transpiration renders them more tolerant of heat, and less so of cold, than the whites. Perhaps too a difference of structure in the pulmonary apparatus, which a late ingenious experimentalist has discovered to be the principal regulator of animal heat, may have disabled them from extricating, in the act of inspiration, so much of that fluid from the outer air, or obliged them in expiration, to part with more of it. They seem to require less sleep. A black, after hard labour through the day, will be induced by the slightest amusements to sit up till midnight, or later, though knowing he must be out with the first dawn of the morning. They are at least as brave, and more adventuresome. But this may perhaps proceed from a want of forethought, which prevents their seeing a danger till it be present. When present, they do not go through it with more coolness or steadiness than the whites. They are more ardent after their female: but love seems with them to be more an eager desire, than a tender delicate mixture of sentiment and sensation. Their griefs are transient. Those numberless afflictions, which render it doubtful whether heaven has given life to us in mercy or in wrath, are less felt, and sooner forgotten with them. In general, their existence appears to participate more of sensation than reflection. To this must be ascribed their disposition to sleep when abstracted from their diversions, and unemployed in labour. An animal whose body is at rest, and who does not reflect, must be disposed to sleep of course. Comparing them by their faculties of memory, reason, and imagination, it appears to me, that in memory they are equal to the whites; in reason much inferior, as think one could scarcely be found capable of tracing and comprehending the investigations of Euclid; and that in imagination they are dull, tasteless, and anomalous. It would be unfair to follow them to Africa for this investigation. We will consider them here, on the same stage with the whites, and where the facts are not apocryphal on which a judgment is to be formed. It will be right to make great allowances for the difference of condition, of education, of conversation, of the sphere in which they move. Many millions of them have been brought to, and born in America. Most of them indeed have been confined to tillage, to their own homes, and their own society: yet many have been so situated, that they might have availed themselves of the conversation of their masters; many have been brought up to the handicraft arts, and from that circumstance have always been associated with the whites. Some have been liberally educated, and all have lived in countries where the arts and sciences are cultivated to a considerable degree, and have had before their eyes samples of the best works from abroad. The Indians, with no advantages of this kind, will often carve figures on their pipes not destitute of design and merit. They will crayon out an animal, a plant, or a country, so as to prove the existence of a germ in their minds which only wants cultivation. They astonish you with strokes of the most sublime oratory; such as prove their reason and sentiment strong, their imagination glowing and elevated. But never yet could I find that a black had uttered a thought above the level of plain narration; never see even an elementary trait, of painting or sculpture. In music they are more generally gifted than the whites with accurate ears for tune and time, and they have been found capable of imagining a small catch. Whether they will be equal to the composition of a more extensive run of melody, or of complicated harmony, is yet to be proved. Misery is often the parent of the most affecting touches in poetry. — Among the blacks is misery enough, God knows, but no poetry. Love is the peculiar r&oe;strum of the poet. Their love is ardent, but it kindles the senses only, not the imagination. Religion indeed has produced a Phyllis Whately; but it could not produce a poet. The compositions published under her name are below the dignity of criticism. The heroes of the Dunciad are to her, as Hercules to the author of that poem. Ignatius Sancho has approached nearer to merit in composition; yet his letters do more honour to the heart than the head. They breathe the purest effusions of friendship and general philanthropy, and shew how great a degree of the latter may be compounded with strong religious zeal. He is often happy in the turn ot his compliments, and his stile is easy and familiar, except when he affects a Shandean fabrication of words. But his imagination is wild and extravagant, escapes incessantly from every restraint of reason and taste, and, in the course of its vagaries, leaves a tract of thought as incoherent and eccentric, as is the course of a meteor through the sky. His subjects should often have led him to a process of sober reasoning: yet we find him always substituting sentiment for demonstration. Upon the whole, though we admit him to the first place among those of his own colour who have presented themselves to the public judgment, yet when we compare him with the writers of the race among whom he lived, and particularly with the epistolary class, in which he has taken his own stand, we are compelled to enroll him at the bottom of the column. This criticism supposes the letters published under his name to be genuine, and to have received amendment from no other hand; points which would not be of easy investigation. The improvement of the blacks in body and mind, in the first instance of their mixture with the whites, has been observed by every one, and proves that their inferiority is not the effect merely of their condition of life. . . .
            To justify a general conclusion, requires many observations, even where the subject may be submitted to the Anatomical knife, to Optical glasses, to analysis by fire, or by solvents. How much more then where it is a faculty, not a substance, we are examining; where it eludes the research of all the senses; where the conditions of its existence are various and variously combined; where the effects of those which are present or absent bid defiance to calculation; let me add too, as a circumstance of great tenderness, where our conclusion would degrade a whole race of men from the rank in the scale of beings which their Creator may perhaps have given them. To our reproach it must be said, that though for a century and a half we have had under our eyes the races of black and of red men, they have never yet been viewed by us as subjects of natural history. I advance it therefore as a suspicion only, that the blacks, whether originally a distinct race, or made distinct by time and circumstances, are inferior to the whites in the endowments both of body and mind. It is not against experience to suppose, that different species of the same genus, or varieties of the same species, may possess different qualifications. Will not a lover of natural history then, one who views the gradations in all the races of animals with the eye of philosophy, excuse an effort to keep those in the department of man as distinct as nature has formed them? This unfortunate difference of colour, and perhaps of faculty, is a powerful obstacle to the emancipation of these people. Many of their advocates, while they wish to vindicate the liberty of human nature, are anxious also to preserve its dignity and beauty. Some of these, embarrassed by the question ‘What further is to be done with them?’ join themselves in opposition with those who are actuated by sordid avarice only. Among the Romans emancipation required but one effort. The slave, when made free, might mix with, without staining the blood of his master. But with us a second is necessary, unknown to history. When freed, he is to be removed beyond the reach of mixture.

            Credit: Notes on the State of Virginia, by Thomas Jefferson, J.W. Randolph
            Virginia, 1853

            Thus you are refuted. “When freed, he is to be removed beyond the reach of mixture.” Beyond the reach of mixture, beyond the reach of mixture, beyond the reach of mixture…
            Say it over and over again. Savor it. It is sweet to the sane and bitter to the mad. Remember, he met survivors of the White massacre in Haiti. He feared for similar in Black areas of America. His fears are being justified before our very eyes.

            He’s a bit more down on Blacks than me btw. I think they have a sense of aesthetics. In most of the rest, I think he’s right on target. Now ask yourself, how you could have been so wrong about what he believed? And how could you be so wrong about what Anglo-Americans and Canadians believed back then? And about the nature of our Government? And about what Blacks are really like? In short, how could you be so wrong about nearly everything?

          • Elrond Hubbard May 11, 2016 at 9:00 am #

            [Janos’ wall of text about a slaveowner’s opinions disregarded.]

            “Thus are you refuted.” Backwards ran sentences, until reeled the mind.

            Go back and read it again. I wasn’t talking about Jefferson. I was talking about what generations of your countrymen have considered worthy to fight and die for. Including fighting and dying in a civil war to achieve freedom and equality for those self-same — which should go without saying except, well, look who I’m talking to.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 11, 2016 at 3:18 pm #

            Righto. So now you think Jefferson was a pariah in his time because of his views? Or is that just what you are saying here? The latter, right? No doubt you have excoriated Jefferson and the America of his time countless times in the past because of its racism. That is the correct viewpoint in the sense of being factual. America was created by and for Whites. Any other historical statement is simply a lie.

        • Florida Power May 10, 2016 at 9:28 pm #

          Interesting take on diversity in the UK from a black UK commentator:


          But I like bacon! Bangers and Mash! It’s all from earth, after all! One big beautiful planet!

          When they tell you — WPA — what to think, how to dress, what to eat because they said so, you will remember Janos and weep.

          • michael May 11, 2016 at 1:37 pm #

            They already do – without most noticing.

  56. wpa_ccc May 10, 2016 at 1:37 pm #

    “I think this is covered on the first day of Blogging 101 is it not?” –Q

    Yes, right up there with ad hominem arguments, when you are unable to address the content of a post, or refute facts, or provide data. As you have done recently, insinuating that I am somehow like Asoka:

    Well then he contradicts himself. He is large and contains multitudes.

    Ad hominem

    • wpa_ccc May 10, 2016 at 1:47 pm #

      Mister Darling was simply wrong in saying the majority of military spending goes to unwanted weapons, not to MILITARY PEOPLE.

      They volunteer to fight capitalist wars. In the process of commiting war crimes they create more terrorists than they kill.

      If they manage to get themselves shot up, we pay for their surgeries and hospitalizations and rehabilitation and disability payments and other military benefits for the next 50 years.

      All that is military spending for MILITARY PEOPLE.

      • Sticks-of-TNT May 10, 2016 at 3:05 pm #

        “They volunteer to fight [capitalist] wars.”

        We may debate what they were, but the recent wars the neo-cons orchestrated weren’t ‘capitalist’ wars.


        • MisterDarling May 10, 2016 at 9:19 pm #


          Isn’t it pretty obvious that this skin-covered government expense hasn’t spent more than 5-minutes on a military post in the past 20 years?

  57. barbisbest May 10, 2016 at 1:51 pm #


    “attended by heavenly hosts of Kardashian angels” That’s priceless, absolutely priceless. Chuckle inserted here.

    Interesting to note, The Kardashian women (here I go again) made a woman out of Bruce, a drug head out of Lamar and an alcoholic out of Scott. What fate awaits certain others?

    • Sticks-of-TNT May 10, 2016 at 2:48 pm #

      Let’s start a pool on Kanye.

    • Sticks-of-TNT May 10, 2016 at 2:54 pm #

      Say what you will about Caitlyn–but she has balls!

      • capt spaulding May 11, 2016 at 2:55 pm #

        That’s funny, Styx.

    • malthuss May 10, 2016 at 4:17 pm #

      Check their links to ‘Free Masons’. Even the initials ‘KK’ at wedding were assembled in flowers as to look like FM ‘square and compass.’

  58. Endofmore May 10, 2016 at 4:15 pm #

    Trump will not be able to fulfil his promises. No President can do that. Things have accelerated out beyond the control of governments and petty dictators, though millions are still convinced that prosperity is a matter of political choice. So he will be ejected from office in 2020, with the “economy” in greater chaos than it is

    Democracy has existed in the form we know it, because energy fuelled prosperity has allowed it to. In other words, as long as we all had “more” of everything, and could believe that would be to case into any foreseeable future, it was not possible for any dictator to gain sufficient foothold on the political psyche of any major industrial nation to drive them into ideological forms of collective insanity.

    Thus in the latter half of the 20th c, the world entered an unusually calm period of non aggression, because the nations had nothing to fight over. The “developed west” was relatively well off and comfortable. Now the industrial world is breaking down, prosperity is beginning to crumble, and the mass of people don’t know why.

    There is an awareness that we face a future of poverty and uncertainty, and that the “American Dream” has turned into a nightmare. Yet there is still a universal certainty that prosperity can be voted into office, and an absolute denial that input of hydrocarbon energy has anything to do with it, or that those same hydrocarbons are cooking the planet.

    Trump says “Hoax” to climate change and his followers cheer in unison. The next step is likely to be death threats, or worse, to climate scientists. Burning heretics has always been a favourite sport of the aroused masses.They know no better.

    Dictators feed on poverty and perceived injustice. This is where Donald Trump is gaining traction for his political machine. All aspiring dictators need the grievances of the mob. The spectre of poverty is no longer something blighting peoples 5000 miles away. We see it biting at our own comfortable existence.
    Watch this youtube video:

    It is your future. Perhaps not with Trump directly, but what will come by following Trump’s political views, leading the gullible into an unknown future.

    It does not make easy viewing, and if you are able to think with any depth, it will move you deeply, even to tears. But watch it, watch it, watch it. It will scare you—it is meant to do just that.
    Digest what it means. Circulate it to others. It is a stark warning of what we face right now.

    Trump is offering to “make America great again” without the slightest awareness of what made America great in the first place.
    Or why that era is now at an end. The entire industrial world was built on hydrocarbon energy sources. That era is now over. Trump and his mobs refuse to accept that
    In the Trump mobs, you witness the willingness of people to fall into line behind this insanity, and “do what the leader tells them to do”. You also see the potential recruits willing and eager to do that work, no matter how dirty. It is a familiar tale from recent history

    The danger lies not with Trump, but whoever follows him, by 2020 when the economy will have really tanked, and the majority of people are looking at the breadline, the next POTUS will offer a different kind of salvation. And the baying mobs will be all to eager to embrace it.
    In Trump you see the precursor to a Theocratic dictatorship.

    Despite Trump’s rantings, the world economy will continue its downward spiral, driven by climate change, resource shortage and overpopulation. (all three compounded by increasing warfare)

    Trump followers will never be able to accept those causes of their imminent catastrophe, and will continue with the certainty that prosperity can be voted into office.
    There has been a century of growing prosperity, at least in the developed industrial part of the world, and everyone is demanding that it should continue, and sees no reason why not. Trump is merely giving voice to those demands, and his followers are just screaming in unison—because they have nothing else to scream about.

    This is why they turn on dissenters (his audience is all too willing to do that) They are seen as heretics and deniers of Trump’s offers of infinite wealth and prosperity. (bear in mind that he is the ultimate ponzi salesman). He has no choice but to promise “more”, and his baying mob have no choice but to believe him. When they realize in a few years that there is no more for anybody, all hell is going to break loose, irrespective of which president is in office. By then Trump will have been exposed for his empty promises and been long gone.
    The global economy cannot provide any more, we’ve milked the Earth dry.

    My book :The End of More: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00D0ADPFY
    tries to explain why there is no more despite Trumps promises.
    Don’t read it in expectation of a solution to the mess we’re in. Frankly I don’’t think there is one. Welcome to the Disunited States of America, (and Europe)

    • Janos Skorenzy May 10, 2016 at 7:23 pm #

      In other words, we’ve finally learned how the game is played. The secret of your power? No enemies to the Left. Do nice Bernie and Hillary supporters agonize over nasty ones attacking Trump supporters and trying to shut down his rallies – all while flying the Mexican and Communist flags? Not even for a moment. They’re all fine and more than fine. Bernie, the nice grandpa with the wonderful smile told the scum “Well done”. Privately, higher ups may talk about whether such tactics are counter-productive. But moral objections? Never. Whatever works is justified. The Revolution must proceed against Whites and Western Civilization. They have no rights whatsoever.

      So at very long last, we’re adopting the same measures as a last desperate attempt to save ourselves. There is ample justification: Did not Jefferson say, “Survival is the first morality”? All other moral questions are for the living after all. So? So no enemies to the Right. Any White who talks about “racism” is simply an enemy or one who isn’t awakened yet. Our Tribe comes first. We matter – no one else does. There is no America without us. The rest of the groups could leave and we’d be fine – and more than fine.

      If you wanted a united world, maybe the answer wasn’t to try and humiliate Whites and destroy Western Culture? Just a thought to meditate on in the long dark, cold years to come. Too late now to change your tune. The die is cast and the Volk are awakening. We have not yet begun to fight. You folks are far too rigid to change anyway – true believers. China and Brazil get to have new refineries and coal plants but we don’t? Fuck that and you.

    • michael May 11, 2016 at 1:47 pm #

      There is the usual solution: set the state of the world back to a much lower base level. A great war can do that. From the smaller base, grow again.

      It is a necessary solution since our entire system is based on steady growth and can handle periodic setbacks.

      In mathematical terms there is the phenomenon of volatility induced stationarity. Stationarity is a state of equilibrium – maybe violent and chaotic but stably so.

      This volatility is a great chance for you as it smashes vested, fossilized structures.

  59. malthuss May 10, 2016 at 4:20 pm #

    Trump says “Hoax” to climate change and his followers cheer in unison. The next step is likely to be death threats, or worse, to climate scientists. Burning heretics has always been a favourite sport of the aroused masses.They know no better.

    It is YOUR side that wants speech turned into a crime.
    It is YOUR side that created ‘hate’ crime laws.
    It is yr side that calls us ‘deniers.’

    I could go on but u should get the picture, got it?

    • capt spaulding May 11, 2016 at 3:06 pm #

      The reality is, climate change is going to happen whether you believe it or not. Mother Nature doesn’t give a fat shit what you think. My suggestion is for you is to blithely continue on as though nothing is happening, and then suffer the consequences of not believing what 99 percent of the scientists say is going on. Personally, I don’t know anything about the science of climate, therefore I will go with what the majority of scientists say is happening. I happen to use the same logic when I play poker. I go with the odds. I win more often than I lose. All I have to say to you is, ” Good luck and keep your head up your ass”, that way you won’t have to see what is coming.

  60. fodase May 10, 2016 at 4:25 pm #

    Absolutely HORSESHIT.

    But alas, you can’t reason with unreasonable deluded democratic nitwits who block highways to prevent people from simple saying their opinion (Trump in Arizona) and pepper spray his peaceful supporters.

    What a loser endofmore is if heshe can’t see that.

    Mr. Trump is also not offering endless prosperity and wealth. When did he say that, can you cite an actual quote?

    Get a life.

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  61. fodase May 10, 2016 at 4:26 pm #

    btw endofmore, The Limits to Growth beat you to the punch predicting the extinction of natural resources etc.

    It was written in 1972.

  62. Cold N. Holefield May 10, 2016 at 6:26 pm #

    You better simmer down in here or I’m going to call for the services of Sister Mary Elephant.

    Sister Mary Elephant

  63. Cold N. Holefield May 10, 2016 at 6:31 pm #

    The Deep State is in Deep Shit. Every time I see the word ‘Deep” I can’t help but think about Jacqueline Bisset’s beautiful, perfect breasts. I love that movie, and she’s part of the reason I do. Think Happy Thoughts.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 10, 2016 at 6:56 pm #

      You would also like “Beneath the Planet of the Ultra-Vixens. Russ Meyers had a Vision….

      • Sticks-of-TNT May 10, 2016 at 8:22 pm #

        Russ Meyers had a fixation.

        I’m with you Cold. Bisset was exquisite! Did she launch the wet t-shirt craze back then? I can still picture that movie poster–JB swimming up to the surface from the dive site. That sold a lot of tickets! Who needs porn? That was wholesome entertainment!

        Thanks for the memories (don’t say it–I already know what you’re thinking, but the correct word is memories!)

  64. tucsonspur May 10, 2016 at 7:19 pm #

    That’s right Finca, the AIIB is now lending in dollars. But by allowing these many member nations an alternative to the US dominated World Bank e. g., they take a step further towards dedollarization.

    The WB is forcing so called “Western values” on its clients, impinging on national sovereignties. Some actually call it “social Marxism”. It’s attempting to enforce things like gay marriage. A 90 million dollar loan to Uganda was put on hold after the government passed strict anti gay laws.

    Point is, much of the world wants to escape Western financial domination. They realize that the US is fundamentally a debt based society, whose dollar is largely held up by an agreement with the Saudis.

    Importantly, Saudi Arabia and Russia are members of the AIIB. So is Britain. SA a founding member. Why not a petroyuan?

    The internationalization of the yuan is spreading, and back a year or two ago, Chen Yulu said that yuan clearing centers have opened across Europe.

    I’m far from being an economist, but these trends seem to indicate a huge US loss of economic power, what’s left of it, over the coming years and eventual dedollarization.

    Shifting gears.

    “The amount of SDRs in circulation is miniscule compared to national and regional currencies such as the dollar and euro. The SDRs use is limited to IMF members and certain other institutions and is controlled by the IMF Special Drawing Rights Department. SDRs will perhaps never be issued in bank note form and may never be used on an every day basis by citizens around the world.”

    Maybe I’m not getting the picture, but Rickards seems to be contradicting himself. Will the SDR be the “global reserve” only among central banks and the IMF? Isn’t it already?

    Like I said, I’m no economist.

    • Dumbedup May 10, 2016 at 9:05 pm #

      The world is changing. White men of European descent are now the minority. Not a thing we can do about except learn to live with it or go to war.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 10, 2016 at 9:16 pm #

        The world is changing? Sure and it’s also being changed on purpose. White Nations are being destroyed on purpose. It’s not just “happening”. Deal with it? You are pretending and putting your head in the sand. Kerry said yesterday at a commencement, “a world without borders”. That would incomprehensible a few years ago and treason back when we really had it together. People took words and oaths seriously back then. At the very least, such knaves and fools weren’t allowed in office.

        Not a thing we can do about it? Maybe stop digging the hole? Stop letting more hostile people in? C’mon Dumb, you’re not trying.

        • MisterDarling May 10, 2016 at 9:29 pm #

          “White Nations are being destroyed on purpose.”-j.

          I’m always amazed at how little faith you have in Whites…

          • Janos Skorenzy May 10, 2016 at 11:22 pm #

            You don’t think we’re being destroyed, or that it’s not on purpose? Is that (either one or both) a weak or uncertain way of saying that you don’t think we should be? If so, how does Western Europe’s response to the Muslim invasion rate on a scale of 1 to 10?

            Last we talked, you were still vehemently denying that it was an invasion – which is simply crazy. And since so many Whites are so easily gulled in this manner, I do subscribe to Professor MacDonald’s theory, namely that we evolved in a less crowded less competitive environment in the ethnic sense. This is a fatal flaw in todays world – especially with border enforcement being suspended by traitors in high places.

        • lsjogren May 11, 2016 at 1:21 am #

          A world without borders would be a world run by brutal warlords.

          Inconvenient truth for the “rainbows and bunny rabbits for all” political left.

  65. Janos Skorenzy May 10, 2016 at 7:47 pm #

    Every dark cloud has a silver lining? Wouldn’t say that, but this one does. As England goes Muslim, the truth about Jews becomes acceptable to say. Labor MP defends Muslim colleague, distinguishing between being Anti-Zionist and Anti-Semitic. More, he even says that Hitler was a Zionist in that he assisted Jews in moving to Palestine and was allied with the Zionist Movement. He’s right again.

    Maybe English Jews shouldn’t have pushed for mass Muslim immigration? Yah think? Maybe they hated the English more than they loved themselves? Too late now to undo it. A tragic people, both for themselves and others.


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  66. Q. Shtik May 10, 2016 at 11:50 pm #

    Here is a discussion of the term NAZI (scroll to Etymology)


  67. Pucker May 11, 2016 at 12:34 am #

    You know what they say about Oswald: “Eighty percent of Life is just showing up (at the Texas Book Depository).”

    What if Oswald had called in sick for work at the Texas Book Depository on 22 November 1963?

  68. wpa_ccc May 11, 2016 at 1:20 am #

    Sticks, out of the mouths of the neocons themselves the whole project for the past ten years was pro-capitalist. The neocons have argued that the United States should challenge evil regimes in the Mideast and Asia, spread freedom, democracy and capitalism, jettison Cold War thinking based on deterrence and containment, and de-emphasize old treaties and alliances that get in the way. That was what they preached.

    It was going to be a pre-emptive war, a cakewalk that we would not even have to pay for… because OIL. Remember oil?

    The neocons blew it. And by neocons I am referring specifically to Paul Wolfowitz, deputy secretary of defense; Douglas Feith, under secretary of defense for policy; Lewis “Scooter” Libby, the vice president’s chief of staff; Elliott Abrams, the National Security Council staffer for Near East, Southwest Asian, and North African Affairs; and Richard Perle, a member of the Defense Policy Board. Each of these policymakers has been an outspoken advocate for aggressive and, if necessary, unilateral action by the United States to promote democracy, human rights, and free markets and to maintain U.S. primacy around the world. They were capitalist wars. The neocons were not socialists or communists.

  69. wpa_ccc May 11, 2016 at 1:27 am #

    “Careful studies of al-Qaeda and ISIS have shown that the United States and its allies are following their game plan with some precision. Their goal is to “draw the West as deeply and actively as possible into the quagmire.” –Noam Chomsky

    Close down the military bases around the world. Close down the military golf courses. Cut the military budget by 50%. Send home 500,000 military people so they can do something productive with their lives instead of living off DoD welfare.

  70. wpa_ccc May 11, 2016 at 2:09 am #

    “Sticks, Isn’t it pretty obvious that this skin-covered government expense hasn’t spent more than 5-minutes on a military post in the past 20 years?” –Mister Darling

    But my family did stay in a Holiday Inn… and we paid for it out of our own funds.

    Families on military bases enjoy rent free dorms/barracks, apartments, townhouses or houses (depending on rank and marital status), free electricity and water utilities. These incredible benefits are covered by military regulations whether a person is stationed within the United States or overseas. Single service members are authorized to live in barracks/dorms. Married service members of enlisted rank often are compensated in their pay to cover their rent or mortgage.

    Moochers. Takers. Getting “free” stuff from the DoD… at civilian taxpayers’ expense.

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    • messianicdruid May 11, 2016 at 9:02 am #

      I remember getting 301 dollars a month, and then paying 150 a month for rent while I was stationed at Ft Lewis. There was no base housing for my wife and I. I also remember hitching 11 miles to the base from Spanaway for months because I couldn’t afford a 50 dollar car my friend offered to sell me. When I was sent to the Canal Zone the waiting period for on post housing was 18 months. STFU

  71. FincaInTheMountains May 11, 2016 at 3:10 am #

    “That’s right Finca, the AIIB is now lending in dollars. But by allowing these many member nations an alternative to the US dominated World Bank e. g., they take a step further towards dedollarization.” == tucsonspur

    Well, you see Americans created a huge headache for the world. “Dedollarization” sounds nice, but how do you really implement it without crushing the world’s economy when the vast majority of inter-nation contracts and production chains are nominated in dollars? Just think for a moment about it.

    On the other hand, the world can’t live under the fear that Americans won’t one day decide to print shit load of unfunded dollars and start using them to buy up other people assets.

    It is a huge logistical problem.

    So, AIIB plan is to “hijack” the “external” dollar – all settlements in “external” dollars will go through AIIB, instead of going through American banks and hence through the FED.

    When I say “hijack” – I mean in reality that process should go under the agreement with US Monetary Authorities, who gets a benefit of maintaining its face, avoiding all-around crush and panic of exodus from the dollar.

    Essentially, as I said – there are going to be two contours of dollar circulation, one for use inside US (and maybe American zone of responsibility), and the other one – for the rest of the world. And you need two clearing houses to maintain that – one FED, another AIIB.

    It will definitely create an excellent arbitrage opportunities for “investors” to make money by playing the difference in two dollars exchange rates, that’s where Obama’s Financial Control will come into play and various anti-offshoring measures.

    What can I say – it’s a fucking mess, mostly thanks to Clinton’s Presidency and several years of doubling the stock markets in one year when the US economy was growing by only 5 – 6%.

  72. Janos Skorenzy May 11, 2016 at 4:06 am #

    I rode over my enemies here today. Swept the field. The cries of the wounded, dead, and dying are music to my ears. Kardashian Valkyries glide down close picking up the souls of the fallen Communist Warriors. They dispute with them, saying that there is no life after death and that this isn’t happening. Kim simply turns and they meekly follow her divine(?) globes to their reward.

    Elrond is badly wounded but will live. I take this opportunity to “put him on the couch” as I did Darling last week. No doubt I’ll be hunted down by murderous Freudian Analysts if the Romanov Association doesn’t get me first.

    Let us begin: Does anyone really believe that a man of Elrond’s education, both official and thru his personal reading, doesn’t know that Jefferson was what is now known as a Racist? So in other words, he is Lying. News flash: Lying is the most basic Communist tactic of all. The Truth is simply what advances the Revolution. That things are what they are is an alien concept for such political creatures. Things are what the Party needs them to be. Thus, now that they have America on the ropes, (or so they think), they are attempting to co-opt our history, making it something that it never was. America was founded by Whites for Whites. If it ceases to be White and Western, it ceases to exist for all intents and purposes.

    • messianicdruid May 11, 2016 at 9:05 am #

      The Lincoln quote about being destroyed from within comes to mind.

    • AKlein May 11, 2016 at 12:47 pm #

      Years ago I worked for a large Fortune 50 company that shall remain unnamed. They had two offices of Diversity. Yes, two. One month one of these offices held a contest wherein employees were asked to submit a haiku regarding Diversity, 600 words or less. When informed that a Japanese haiku had a very specific form and was not simple prose, their response was that the definition didn’t matter. This really happened. It’s not a fictional story. Clearly, the fact that Japanese might be offended by their literary form, i.e. haiku, being hijacked as a political tool was of no importance to the Office of Diversity. The Japanese culture obviously existed solely in the service to the needs of Diversity, as defined by a gaggle of lard-assed corporate bureaucrats.

  73. MisterDarling May 11, 2016 at 6:20 am #

    @ Q:

    RE | “To Elrond, Mister Darling, venuspluto67, et al…
    I notice on the internet that when one disagrees vehemently with the world view of another but you are unable to win a written debate to save your ass, the next strategy is to accuse your nemesis of being a Troll. I think this is covered on the first day of Blogging 101 is it not?”

    You don’t seem to understand that the whole ‘Diversity’ issue is not something I concern myself with. I’m as interested in that as I am in debating about political candidates. I avoid wasting time commenting about strategically irrelevant nonsense.

    You are also assuming that I have bothered to read the troll-posts. At this point, when I see who wrote them and what the subject-matter is I scroll right through – and spend my time productively elsewhere more often than not.

    By the way, when a poster spends the majority of their time cluttering-up the commentary with uninformed & irrelevant bullshit, childish attempts at baiting other posters and making delusional pronouncements about their ‘success’ – while remaining impervious to facts – they are trolls.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 11, 2016 at 11:53 am #

      Diversity isn’t just a buzz word, but an idea that effects almost all of Federal Policy. And the sociological effects of diversity are felt daily by the majority of Americans. Since America is no longer White, this will continue in the form of conflict should America fall. So to say you don’t take an interest in diversity, is simply fatuous. It will, in any case, taken an interest in you. Perhaps what you mean to say is that you agree with the status quo or party line – whatever that happens to be at the moment.

      Hatred binds people together just as much as love. You obviously follow my posts avidly. A fan in need is a fiend indeed.

    • Q. Shtik May 11, 2016 at 12:23 pm #

      You don’t seem to understand that the whole ‘Diversity’ issue is not something I concern myself with. – Mister Darling


      And yet here you are doing exactly that. But that aside………

      Immediately following the Blogging 101 tactic of calling your nemesis a “Troll” and when that is proving to have little traction, the course material suggests the following:

      1. Claim that you have no interest in the subject matter that your nemesis likes to discuss. (Fruitless though it may be, suggest others ‘ignore’ your nemesis.)

      2. Claim that you don’t read the comments that your nemesis posts. (This can be tricky since the very fact of your complaint will have proven that you have been reading your nemesis’s every word.)

      3. Claim that as soon as you see your nemesis’s screen name you scroll right past it. (Tricky for reason stated above.)

      4. Claim that your time is more precious than that of your nemesis or other readers on a site…….the generic statement being “I can’t waste my time…..etc.”

      5. Claim that you consider the pet concerns of your nemesis to be ‘strategically irrelevant.’ The word ‘strategic’ lends an air of science. (Note: use of pejorative terms such as nonsense, childish, bullshit and delusional are recommended. There are literally hundreds to choose from; your author likes ‘hogwash’ and ‘balderdash.’)

      6. Claim that the writings of your nemesis are not based on ‘facts’ while, of course, your’s are.

      7. Denigrate any other commenters who seem to find value in the pronouncements of your nemesis by referring to those commenters as his “ilk” or perhaps “Nazi racist fellow travelers.”

      And finally, if chided for your own confusing writing due to issues of spelling or grammar, claim that you are “not here to write doctoral dissertations.”

      • Janos Skorenzy May 11, 2016 at 3:12 pm #

        At last, someone else is noticing the personal qualities of Lieutenant Darling. I thought I was all alone. It’s lonely to be alone in the place where there is no darkness.

        Darling is versatile: he’s smart enough to be a Commissar and strong enough to be an Enforcer. Being ambitious, he’d probably go for the former, but he wouldn’t mind working his way up from Enforcer. He’d enjoy every minute of it.

        • malthuss May 11, 2016 at 5:25 pm #

          M r.Darling is versatile: he’s smart enough to be a Commissar and strong enough to be an Enforcer.

          • Frankiti May 11, 2016 at 6:02 pm #

            Look who took his mouth off of misspelled Vampire Goebbels schlong to say something!

      • MisterDarling May 13, 2016 at 1:33 am #

        @ Q:

        You seem to be confusing me with a number of others, so I’ll reply to the items that actually do apply and are constructive to engage:

        RE |

        “4. Claim that your time is more precious than that of your nemesis or other readers on a site…….the generic statement being “I can’t waste my time…..etc.”

        Yes my time is valuable. I’m not unemployed or retired and I have a family. I ration the time spent reading, thinking about and/or replying to CFN in general and in regard to certain individuals in particular. There are expectations and I have standards.

        “5. Claim that you consider the pet concerns of your nemesis to be ‘strategically irrelevant.’ The word ‘strategic’ lends an air of science. (Note: use of pejorative terms such as nonsense, childish, bullshit and delusional are recommended. There are literally hundreds to choose from; your author likes ‘hogwash’ and ‘balderdash.’)”

        Discussing ‘Diversity’ and race-based issues the way that they are on CFN is a waste of time. Since these issues are a consequence not a cause of Collapse I do see them as strategically irrelevant.

        The long-term trajectory of race-relations was baked-in fifty years ago when the job market started disintegrating. As wealth concentrates things will only get more desperate, violent, chaotic. Yakking about race is kicking a dead horse at this point. Since I’m more interested in what to do – not more information about how to do it – I use the word ‘strategic’ deliberately.

        “6. Claim that the writings of your nemesis are not based on ‘facts’ while, of course, your’s are.” [sic]

        It’s typical for the poster in question to use works of fiction, religious interpretation, myths, legends, the odd nod to popular science and at one point even the ‘Protocols of the Elders of Zion’ as references.

        I’d say that published scientific findings, recognized reference material, non-fiction books and articles by journalists and others citing other sources of settled fact – regardless of what we may think of their motives – are more along the lines of best practice. That’s what I use and am willing to produce more of on request.

        Q.Shtik, there was a time – back in the Fall and Winter of 2014 – when my tone was different. I was waiting to see where one of our most prolific posters was going with it all. You will also recall that I was one of the posters staving off the call for banishment back then.

  74. Pucker May 11, 2016 at 8:56 am #

    I wonder what the CFR’s consensus is re: Trump?

    “When it came to undertaking secret missions, Allen Dulles was a bold and decisive actor. But he acted only after he felt that a consensus had been reached within his influential network. One of the principal arenas where this consensus took shape was the Council on Foreign Relations. The Dulles brothers and their Wall Street circle had dominated this private bastion for shaping public policy ever since the 1920s. If CFR was the power elite’s brain, the CIA was its black-gloved fist.”

    “The Devil’s Chessboard”.

  75. messianicdruid May 11, 2016 at 9:10 am #

    Ron Paul was voicing many of the concerns of those who support Trump for the last thirty years, with precious little coverage by the MSM. Now everything Trump says is covered 24/7.

    Why is that?

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    • Frankiti May 11, 2016 at 5:59 pm #

      Because Ron Paul lacked Trump’s vote hauls and lacks Trump charisma. Alas, Paul set the stage for a Sanders and a Trump. He put the first chink in the Donklephant armor.

      • messianicdruid May 12, 2016 at 9:26 pm #

        Well the “vote hauls” can be directly attributed to his free advertising, which is in turn attributed to his bombastic, controversial rhetoric.

        I am really wondering if we are being played. This becomes more apparent every time a foreigner ( americans hate being preached to by people that should be sweeping their own door steps ) warns us about supporting Trump. We automatically like who they hate. Perhaps it blinds us to what is really happening.

  76. stelmosfire May 11, 2016 at 9:17 am #

    Mornin’ Marlin, Here’s a good one for ya. Only in Connecticut!

    First noted by Paul Harvey….

    Conveniently Forgotten Facts:
    Back in 1969, a group of Black Panthers decided that a fellow black panther named Alex Rackley needed to die. Rackley was suspected of disloyalty.
    Rackley was first tied to a chair. Once safely immobilized, his friends tortured him for hours by, among other things, pouring boiling water on him.
    When they got tired of torturing Rackley, Black Panther member, Warren Kimbro took Rackley outside and put a bullet in his head. Rackley’s body was later found floating in a river about 25 miles north of New Haven, Connecticut.

    Perhaps at this point you’re curious as to what happened to these Black Panthers?
    In 1977, that’s only eight years later, only one of the killers was still in jail.
    The shooter, Warren Kimbro, managed to get a scholarship to Harvard and became good friends with none other than Al Gore. He later became an assistant dean at an Eastern Connecticut State College.
    Isn’t that something!!! As a ’60s radical you can pump a bullet into someone’s head and a few years later, in the same state, you can become an assistant college dean! Only in America!
    Erica Huggins was the woman who served the Panthers by boiling the water for Mr. Rackley’s torture. Some years later Ms. Huggins was elected to a California School Board. How in the world do you think these killers got off so easily?
    Maybe it was in some part due to the efforts of two people who came to the defense of the Panthers.
    These two people actually went so far as to shut down Yale University with demonstrations in defense of the accused Black Panthers during their trial.
    One of these people was none other than Bill Lan Lee. Mr. Lee, or Mr. Lan Lee, as the case may be, isn’t a college dean. He isn’t a member of a California School Board. He is now head of the United States Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, appointed by none other than Bill Clinton.
    O.K., so who was the other Panther defender?
    Is this other notable Panther defender now a school board member?
    Is this other Panther apologist now an assistant college dean?
    No, neither!
    The other Panther defender was, like Lee, a radical law student at Yale University at the time. She is now known as The “smartest woman in the world.”
    She is none other than the former Secretary of State and former Democratic senator from the State of New York —- the former First Lady, the incredible Hillary Clinton.

    Now she wants to be President!

    And now, as Paul Harvey said; “You know the rest of the story”.

    • michael May 11, 2016 at 2:14 pm #

      Please give us a link, it is so incredible.

      • malthuss May 11, 2016 at 5:31 pm #

        The real history of the BPP.
        Ask the guy from the magazine Ramparts why he dissociated with them [has to do w a body in the bay.]

  77. FincaInTheMountains May 11, 2016 at 9:46 am #

    For the past 30 years, the vast majority of Americans were convinced that nuclear missile power of the USSR and Russia is crushed into dust, and NATO, if desired, may bomb Moscow with impunity.

    Of course, there is a 10% probability that something still would fly and destroy a couple of American cities, and it is these two cities that constitutes unacceptable damage, due to which it is not necessary to attack the Bear sleeping peacefully in his den.

    But when the Bear got up and began pacing its territory, expressively roaring and periodically intruding on its overly Americanized neighbors to force them to peace, or organizing referendums of the people’s desire to live under the Nazi rule, it was hailed as unfounded audacity of an insignificant terrier biting Saint Bernard tail.

    And only thanks to Trump who openly declared his sympathies to Vladimir Putin, the conspiracy of silence about Russia’s growing military power was broken, and is followed by articles in the “National Interest”, there was a substantial number of articles on the subject, and Americans are gradually discovering the changed world and starting to think hard about who provokes whom in Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova and Baltic states.

    And even if Trump does not become president, it will be impossible for Americans to return to the state of blissful idiocy, and they will find a way to kick the War Party ass, which, of course, will lose the elections, but will retain its influence and dealing with it will be long and tedious.

    And if God forbid, Hillary still becomes the nominee, the Americans educated of this strengthening of Russia will never forgive her that it was during her tenure at the White House US had lost missile and space technology, and spent a lot of money on F-35, which is suitable only for punitive expeditions against countries that do not have fighter aircraft.



  78. wpa_ccc May 11, 2016 at 12:15 pm #

    StElmosFire, please do not spread false internet propaganda. It is so easy for people to believe false information. Here is the truth:

    Neither Bill Lee nor Hillary Clinton “defended” the Panthers, either in a public or a legal sense. Bill Lee wasn’t a lawyer, or even a law student; he was simply another Yale undergraduate who had no involvement in the Black Panthers’ trial. Hillary Rodham (as she was known then) wasn’t a lawyer then, either: She was a Yale law student, and like many of her politically-minded fellow law students who saw the latest “trial of the century” taking place just outside the main gate of their school, she took advantage of an opportunity to be involved in the case in a minor, peripheral way by organizing other students to help the American Civil Liberties Union monitor the trials for civil rights violations. Her tangential participation in the trial in no way helped “free” Black Panthers tried for the murder of Alex Rackley

    In fact, the killers of Alex Rackley didn’t “go free”: Lonnie McLucas was was found guilty of conspiracy to commit murder and sentenced to twelve to fifteen years in prison, and Warren Kimbro and George Sams turned state’s evidence and pleaded guilty to second degree murder, serving four years in prison. Bobby Seale and Ericka Huggins (who were accused not of killing Rackley, but of being present during his captivity and boiling water to torture him with) went free not due to any efforts on the part of Hillary Clinton or Bill Lee, but because the state failed to sufficiently prove its case against them: the jury deadlocked in favor of acquittal for both defendants, and the trial judge dismissed the charges against both of them. And, of course, neither Hillary Clinton nor Bill Lee had anything to do with the post-trial lives of Seale and Huggins.

    • stelmosfire May 11, 2016 at 1:58 pm #

      Thanks for the corrections. I only passed this on without researching it as you have. I think by “defending” the accused, the author was merely writing about the actions of Lee and Rodham in support for the killers and not in a legal sense. Four years in prison?. That seems kinda’ light for poppin’ a cap in someone and dumping the corpse in the CT. river. I guess it pays to be a rat. As far as your rebuttal I can see where Hillary stands, In your comment you state “She took advantage of an opportunity” . That about sums up H. Rodham in a nutshell.

      • wpa_ccc May 11, 2016 at 2:04 pm #

        Yep, HRC is a politician… Scary to think she might be become a presidential candidate… she might be elected.

  79. wpa_ccc May 11, 2016 at 2:31 pm #

    When I was sent to the Canal Zone the waiting period for on post housing was 18 months. STFU –MessianicDruid

    In 1979, the former Canal Zone’s total area immediately came under Panama’s direct control, including 11 military bases. So you must have been there before 1979, when the Canal Zone still existed. Still, it is bad form to place yourself on a waiting list for free stuff and then complain that you have to wait to get your free stuff. Where are your manners?

    Pre-1979, when the Canal Zone still existed, is over 35 years ago. In other words, things have changed in the last 35 years, and you are being rude to say STFU based on an anecdote from the last century.

    I will await your apology. Thank you.

    • messianicdruid May 11, 2016 at 4:17 pm #

      The moniker is never to be capitalized. I apologize for saying STFU. I was working at Albrook when Ellsworth Bunker flew in to negotiate the give-away, so, yes it was pre-1976. Doesn’t matter, the military has not changed.

      It is a form of slavery. Once you find out you are just a piece of meat to them you cannot just leave. You are provided subsistence, nothing more. And if you are married it is worse. If you don’t feed and house your slaves they can’t work. “The workman is worthy of his hire.”

      In my opinion, someone who has been in the military has more credence than a hater, no matter when it occurred.

      • wpa_ccc May 11, 2016 at 7:40 pm #

        Thanks for the clarification, MessianicDruid.

  80. barbisbest May 11, 2016 at 3:20 pm #

    ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.. still chuckling about that Heavenly Hosts of Kardashian angels thing. Did you mean the angels that made one man into a woman, one into an alcoholic… those angels? You’re funny. “blowing smoke up the deep state’s butt is not a plan.” More laughter.

    Are the right wing talk show hosts that spew obnoxious rants and are paid Millions to do so part of the deep state then?

    The only word for this week’s writing is Wow. (this program has determined that you have used your quota of exclamation points and therefore will not be allowed to use any in today’s reply) That’s scurrilous.

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    • Janos Skorenzy May 11, 2016 at 4:10 pm #

      Great blog and videos. College students can’t disagree with a guy who claims to be a Chinese Woman. Or a girl who claims to be a six foot five man. Ideology has triumphed over fact. And woman are the masters/victims of this because it’s natural for them to lie so as not to hurt people’s feeling and of course to get what they want. Thus Muslims are allowed to pour in because it would be mean not to let them. It’s nice not to want to hurt people, but horrendous consequences follow from that at the State level. Do women make a distinction between their own lives and what a Government must do? No. Should they be voting? No.


  81. FincaInTheMountains May 11, 2016 at 4:31 pm #

    Today, the US Republican Committee organized for congressional Republicans and the other members of the Republican establishment view of the Soviet film “Strictly Business” (1952) based on three short stories by O.Henry: “The Roads We Take”.



    (Little talk, never mind that it is in Russian – very funny).

  82. wpa_ccc May 11, 2016 at 4:50 pm #

    Q. Shtik,

    Nice takedown of Mister Darling (your comment of May 11, 2016 at 12:23 pm)

    Mister Darling’s doom and gloom does become tiresome. Take the Baltic Dry Index… please! (you are old enough to remember Henny Youngman).

    Back to the Baltic Dry Index… on Wednesday the 10th of February 2016, when the index dropped to 290 points, Mister Darling was saying how this is evidence of some stage or other of our “collapse”

    But when the Baltic Dry Index goes back up, as it has in the last three months, now being at 579, do we hear Mister Darling saying he was wrong about “collapse”? No. He just cherry-picks data and uses that data to support his erroneous interpretation events. Collapse fail.

  83. wpa_ccc May 11, 2016 at 6:39 pm #

    “It is disqualifying for a modern-day presidential nominee to refuse to release tax returns to the voters, especially one who has not been subject to public scrutiny in either military or public service. Tax returns provide the public with its sole confirmation of the veracity of a candidate’s representations regarding charities, priorities, wealth, tax conformance, and conflicts of interest.

    Further, while not a likely circumstance, the potential for hidden inappropriate associations with foreign entities, criminal organizations, or other unsavory groups is simply too great a risk to ignore for someone who is seeking to become commander-in-chief.

    Mr. Trump says he is being audited. So? There is nothing that prevents releasing tax returns that are being audited. Further, he could release returns for the years immediately prior to the years under audit. There is only one logical explanation for Mr. Trump’s refusal to release his returns: there is a bombshell in them. Given Mr. Trump’s equanimity with other flaws in his history, we can only assume it’s a bombshell of unusual size.”

    –Mitt Romney (who did release his tax returns)

  84. wpa_ccc May 11, 2016 at 7:12 pm #


    Goofy Elizabeth Warren has been one of the least effective Senators in the entire U.S. Senate. She has done nothing!
    8:18 AM – 11 May 2016


    Goofy Elizabeth Warren didn’t have the guts to run for POTUS. Her phony Native American heritage stops that and VP cold.
    11:12 AM – 11 May 2016


    We get it, @realDonaldTrump: When a woman stands up to you, you’re going to call her a basket case. Hormonal. Ugly.
    11:52 AM – 11 May 2016


    Do you think you’re going to shut us up, @realDonaldTrump? Think again. It’s time to answer for your dangerous ideas.
    11:53 AM – 11 May 2016


    You care so much about struggling American workers, @realDonaldTrump, that you want to abolish the federal minimum wage?
    11:55 AM – 11 May 2016


    You feel so much for people with college debt, @realDonaldTrump, that you raked in millions scamming students with Trump University?
    11:57 AM – 11 May 2016


    You’re so concerned about Wall Street, @realDonaldTrump, that you say you’d “absolutely” repeal Dodd-Frank?
    11:59 AM – 11 May 2016


    When asked what gov should stop doing, @realDonaldTrump said overseeing banks! How can you be tough on Wall Street by letting them off?
    12:00 PM – 11 May 2016


    Your policies are dangerous. Your words are reckless. Your record is embarrassing. And your free ride is over.
    12:02 PM – 11 May 2016


    Goofy Elizabeth Warren is now using the woman’s card like her friend crooked Hillary. See her dumb tweet “when a woman stands up to you…”
    1:37 PM – 11 May 2016

  85. Q. Shtik May 11, 2016 at 10:41 pm #

    That ship has done sailed. – Frankiti


    When you decide to use Black vernacular for effect you need to do it right. Thus the above should read:

    ‘Dat ship done sailed.’

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  86. pequiste May 12, 2016 at 12:28 am #

    Madame Secretary Hillary gets played “pin the tail on the donkey” by none other than former NSA, CIA chief Michael Hayden, General, USAF (Ret.):


    Breathtaking Deep State burlesque.

    (Courtesy of the DailyBail via Steve Quayle)

    • FincaInTheMountains May 12, 2016 at 9:49 am #

      Every Foreign Intelligence Service In The World Was Thumbing Through Hillary’s Email Server

      That does include ISIS (through Turkey)

      That’s how Ambassador Stevens itinerary became known.

  87. John Howard May 12, 2016 at 1:30 am #

    The key is banning the shit out of transgender reproduction and voiding mercililessly the abomination of gay marriage.

    • Frankiti May 12, 2016 at 5:57 pm #

      Why stop there? We should sterilize most of humanity while we are at it.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 12, 2016 at 11:36 pm #

        Because transgenders can have babies, right?

  88. tucsonspur May 12, 2016 at 5:19 am #

    The gun that killed Trayvon Martin is up for bid. Opens at $5,000.

    Anyone interested? If put up, what would the rifle that killed Dr. King go for?

    5 grand? Way too much for me. I would have stood my ground at $125.

  89. FincaInTheMountains May 12, 2016 at 10:10 am #

    Number of Americans in the Panamanian company customer lists is small, because they are not interested in Panama as an offshore heaven. They have created “an offshore paradise” right here at home.

    Now here are some interesting facts and figures. Some of them belong to the Tax Justice Network (TJN), which for many years has been engaged in the issues of tax evasion in offshore. TJN is rating the attractiveness of tax havens. In their ranking United States in 2015 occupied the honorary third place, behind only the Cayman Islands and Singapore.

    But Panama, the epicenter of the scandal is only in 13th place. It turns out that for foreign oligarchs and kleptomaniacs, America as a tax haven is more convenient than Switzerland or Hong Kong.

    There is no paradox here. America is a state-parasite. America parasitic existence is ensured by capital inflows from around the world into their securities and bank deposits.


    • Being There May 12, 2016 at 10:53 am #

      There is a term for this taken from statecraft.

      It’s called a “modified limited hangout” theory. Modified from the original partial hangout.

      The idea is to reveal something big to catch your attention, usually something that is common knowledge like Panama and its black banks, in order to obfuscate something bigger.

      from Wiki:
      “Limited hangout” is intelligence jargon for a form of propaganda in which a selected portion of a scandal, criminal act, sensitive or classified information, etc. is revealed or leaked, without telling the whole story. The intention may be to establish credibility as a critic of something or somebody by engaging in criticism of them while in fact covering up for them by omitting many details; to distance oneself publicly from something using innocuous or vague criticism even when ones own sympathies are privately with them; or to divert public attention away from a more heinous act by leaking information about something less heinous.

      • MisterDarling May 13, 2016 at 1:36 am #

        Kudos to you, BT.

  90. barbisbest May 12, 2016 at 10:38 am #

    Trumptopia, I’ll say. Did anyone notice how Mr. Trump looks like the personification of Mr. Bill? His mouth always in an “o” shape when he speaks. Weird. Hope he comes to the same fate(s). “Oh no mr. Trump!” what perception. if someone says mr. Trump is a good man, it would really depend on one’s definition of good. Good luck chump. Oh I meant. Trump.

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    • Janos Skorenzy May 12, 2016 at 11:34 pm #

      You must be a Cherokee like Liz Warren. Or just a generic goof? I hope to someday dress up like an Indian and do a war dance at her inauguration. I’ll drum my mouth and brandish a tomahawk. Hope to see you there.

  91. barbisbest May 12, 2016 at 11:24 am #

    While we still have youtube. See mr. Bill (trump) goes to Washington. His mouth always in the shape of an “o”. That is weird and awkward sort of. But there is good news, we’ll at last have a woman on one of our bills. Harriet. Tubman I believe. That and. Triclosan should be off the shelves by now. Chemical messes with our endocrine systems, not to mention our muscles. I was right 15 years ago. Here’s a tip, just because its marketed doesn’t mean it’s good for us.

  92. volodya May 12, 2016 at 11:33 am #

    You’ve seen the scene. It’s so common that you can use stock footage. The time-bomb is ticking and it’s ten seconds to oblivion. The desperate, sweating agent has to make a choice. Cut the red wire or cut the green wire and if he chooses wrong the thing goes boom.

    As JHK sez about the Deep State: careful disassembly required.

    OTOH the Deep State isn’t something mechanical and electrical like a bomb. Things with wires and wheels and batteries are relatively predictable. But the Deep State is enormously tricky in comparison. The Deep State is people and not only that but assemblages of people and such assemblages are subject to all the madnesses that crowds are subject to.

    Threaten their position in the economic and political ecology and look out. For some time now we’ve been hearing about third party challenges to Trump. Alarmingly – and maybe predictably – we’ve also heard about attempts to recruit former military men to lead the challenge.

    Military takeover anyone? But this isn’t to say that the be-medalled generalissimos will be successful. Sometimes takeovers come apart. Nonetheless, in such things people take sides. And sometimes these things get shitty.

    So tell me, are you going to be on the wrong side or the right side? Will you be the one hearing about the arrests of malcontents and nodding in agreement or the one being rounded up? How confident of your position under the heavens are YOU?

    Nobody who thinks they’re important, those people being mostly ensconced in coastal bubble-lands, thought that ruining the livelihoods of tens of millions of people in the now rusting rust-belt posed any hazards. This is because rust-belters don’t matter and besides, they would accept their fate and besides, whatever misfortune they suffered they had coming.

    And besides, mainstream economists spent the better part of two generations telling everybody that new jobs would pop up to take the place of ones being off-shored. So no problem, be patient and Pareto optimality would prevail.

    Except it didn’t. Part-time, minimum wage, task-rabbity gig-work doesn’t work. The economy can’t run this way. As this one guy said the evidence tells us that neo-liberalism has failed. Because otherwise we wouldn’t be seeing the likes of Bernie and Trump.

    As a post-script, Reuters is saying a new on-line poll puts Hillary and Trump at about even. I can hear it now, the scoffers scoffing. One poll doesn’t matter they tell us. Polls are wrong they insist. Yes, they say, you’ll see, Hillary will win. OK, we’ll see.

    • MisterDarling May 13, 2016 at 1:43 am #


      “Military takeover anyone? But this isn’t to say that the be-medalled generalissimos will be successful. Sometimes takeovers come apart. Nonetheless, in such things people take sides. And sometimes these things get shitty.”

      Don’t expect someone from the G-ranks to try and snatch the whole shebang – by the time they start pinning on stars they’re too far away from the river to smell it – and too late to the punch as a consequence. OTOH, if as things get ‘fluid’ you spy a canny Lieutenant Colonel with a hungry gleam in his eye… That might be a good time to decide whether you’re In or Out.


  93. FincaInTheMountains May 12, 2016 at 12:04 pm #

    Showing off leads to nothing good!!


    James Thompson vs Aleksander Emelianenko (the tranquil guy)

  94. Janos Skorenzy May 12, 2016 at 1:29 pm #

    Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum – If you would have peace, prepare for war.


    The superhuman life of George Zimmerman continues. He wants the best for you, why not remember him in your prayers?

    • tucsonspur May 12, 2016 at 5:23 pm #

      Just looked it up. Parabellum pistol design patented by Georg Luger.

      We have the ” peacemaker.”

      Although he was advised against it, I’m told that Zimmerman was considering development of two pistol lines:

      the ” bulldog black blaster ” and the

      ” nitro nigger nullifier “

  95. wpa_ccc May 12, 2016 at 2:51 pm #

    If Donald Trump wants to build a wall on the border with Mexico, he should put the wall in the right place, where it belongs… before the US violated the Treaty.

    Build the wall so it returns the land that was stolen from Mexico in 1848. Build the wall north of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada and parts of Colorado, Wyoming, Kansas, and Oklahoma.


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    • Florida Power May 12, 2016 at 3:37 pm #

      Do the Navajo and Apache get a vote?

      • wpa_ccc May 12, 2016 at 4:38 pm #

        Yes, of course.

    • Frankiti May 12, 2016 at 5:54 pm #

      WPA dumbass wants attention.
      It types lies and misinformation so as to get it.
      It posts multiple beyond-stupid posts daily baiting its trap.

      It knows the land Mexico had for all of about 35 years was lost in a war as they had taken it from the Spaniards through war.

      Yet it wants to provoke. That’s all it does. This is clear. Ar leans vampire Goebbels has a point and believes what he types.

      I hate myself for responding to it as it is a total c*** s***ing f****** imbecile with no purpose but to spread disinformation so as to provoke reaction. It likes to be kicked around, called things like a sk**ky f*****G c**t, or a worn out c** bucket.

      I feel vindicated and relieved.

      • MisterDarling May 13, 2016 at 1:50 am #

        Hello Frankiti,

        What is it about the whole ‘CA back to Mexico’ thing that really get’s to you? None of that crap will matter, imo. I’m asking b/c I’m actually curious.

        • Frankiti May 13, 2016 at 5:46 am #

          Simply, because it is a lie. It demonstrates the incredible ignorance Americans have when it comes to their own history and the history of the land they inhabit. It demonstrates how a meme, a suggestion, a myth, a lie, can easily spread between the feeble-minded. The longest continuously inhabited colonial city in the US is not Jamestown, the first “thanksgiving” feast between colonists and tribes was not at Plymouth and so on and so forth. The suggestion was planted and it is not refuted. The myth of Aztlan is the same. People who actually know the history, the record, understand this, but if an influential person, say the host of a blog frequented by racist chicken littles suggests that it is true… well, my feathers get ruffled.

          • Florida Power May 13, 2016 at 7:57 am #

            Thank You Fran, I think, for relieving yourself above. I was all set to reply “whoosh” to WPA’s reply to my query re the indigenous inhabitants of the disputed territory, but hesitated fearing an endless whoosh loop.

            Nevertheless we need WPA for the intellectual sandpaper. Our host is large and contains multitudes.

            BTW – a while back you recommended True Romance in connection with Gary Oldman. Quintessential Tarantino, and indeed Oldman’s character is etched forever in my brain.

  96. wpa_ccc May 12, 2016 at 4:36 pm #

    Trump’s Longtime Butler Calls for Obama to Be Killed

    Anthony Senecal, who worked as Donald Trump’s butler for 17 years before being named the in-house historian at the tycoon’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, has repeatedly published posts on his Facebook page that express profound hatred for President Barack Obama and declare he should be killed.

    On Wednesday, Senecal put up a post that read:

    To all my friends on FB, just a short note to you on our pus headed “president” !!!! This character who I refer to as zero (0) should have been taken out by our military and shot as an enemy agent in his first term !!!!! Instead he still remains in office doing every thing he can to gut the America we all know and love !!!!! Now comes Donald J Trump to put an end to the corruption in government !!!! The so called elite, who are nothing but common dog turds from your front lawn are shaking in their boots because there is a new Sheriff coming to town, and the end to their corruption of the American people (YOU) is at hand !!!! I cannot believe that a common murder is even allowed to run (killery clinton) OR that a commie like bernie is a also allowed to also run !!!! Come on America put your big boy pants on—this election you have a choice—GET YOUR ASS OUT AND VOTE !!!! Thank you !!!!


    Maybe this guy was behind Trump’s failed birther campaign to smear Obama as a foreigner not qualified to become president? But he probably was not behind Trump’s failed airline, or Trump’s failed university, or Trump’s failed casinos or Trump’s failed humanity.

    • tucsonspur May 12, 2016 at 5:36 pm #

      It didn’t happen because of an abandoned sense of patriotism and nationalism, even at the top. Insight and courage were lacking.

      Millions upon millions share this view. Trump has America first. Obama? Maybe what, twenty first? Truly, a black stain on American history!

    • Q. Shtik May 12, 2016 at 6:00 pm #

      I think Senecal should be shot for overuse of the exclamation mark!!!!!!!!

  97. wpa_ccc May 12, 2016 at 5:27 pm #

    Here’s Why I’m NOT Moving to Canada If Donald Trump Wins

    Many of us have already faced backlash and Islamophobia, and we know there is going to be more. We could get on our knees and beg and plead for you to like us, we could change our appearances, our names, and our customs and “assimilate,” but that is not who we are. Unlike political candidates, we don’t pander, and we don’t really care what you think of us.

    Let’s take a quick look at Moe Shama. He made an awesome video of his family car-karaoke-ing to Queen’s “We Will Rock You,” and people lost their minds.

    Muslims, behaving like….Americans! Who would have thought?

    But that isn’t the point of Shama’s video. The point of Shama’s video was not to show Americans that “we’re just like you.” We aren’t, and we don’t need to be.

    The point of the video was to show that we are not who you think we are.

    We are not miserable, or oppressed, or driven by hatred. We’re part of the fabric of America now. A new, interesting, sometimes weird thread being woven into the tapestry of American history.

    We don’t really care if you love us or not.

    We are Americans. And we’re not going anywhere.



    There are 3.3 million Muslims in the USA. They are our neighbors, our friends. Islam is a religion of peace. Get used to it. Muslims will make America great again.

    • tucsonspur May 12, 2016 at 7:05 pm #

      Moe’s video is just disguised militant Islam. Yes, come and enjoy what the great West has built, all ye Muslims, but keep your place or your threads will be pulled from the fabric.

      It’s good that you don’t care if we love you. Shows your militant side and psyche. Muslims first.

      The noxious, stifling, PC cloud that paralyzed in 2008 is lifting.
      Things are becoming clear. We must fight viciously to stop the threat.
      And we will. Enough dead here already.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 12, 2016 at 11:24 pm #

      The backlash has been almost null considering the gravity of the offenses against us. A very bad sign indeed. Americans have had their spirits broken. The Trump campaign is hopefully a sign of returning health.

  98. FincaInTheMountains May 12, 2016 at 7:22 pm #

    Trump is cozying up to the Bush Clan

    Trump meets with James Baker in DC


    Joseph Biden and Michael Bloomberg both yielded to Trump – this means that some very serious global structure said: “No, we need Trump. We need someone who is will make America pupate in its own continent, and will do so consciously and consistently.”

    If someone does not know, Trump’s father has German roots and his mother – Scottish and clan dimension in his family is very strong.

    So, I assume that the traces of this hypothetical structure lead to the Old World, the UK and Germany …

  99. FincaInTheMountains May 12, 2016 at 7:31 pm #

    Why do they bet on Trump? Because global business on the basis of Russian operation in Syria realized that they can’t guarantee the victory in the World War III.

    So playing with fire is much more dangerous than they thought before, the profit to risk ratio is unacceptable.

    So, they need a different strategy – the strategy of division of the current global market into the macro-regions – currency zones – with the lowest losses and highest profits.

    That’s why Hillary’s campaign is doomed.

  100. FincaInTheMountains May 12, 2016 at 7:32 pm #

    So, build the Wall – just make sure that the machine guns are not pointed inward.

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    • MisterDarling May 13, 2016 at 1:53 am #


      “…just make sure that the machine guns are not pointed inward.”

      You’re funny this week. Cheers!

    • pequiste May 13, 2016 at 5:11 am #

      The very successful interior “border” that existed between the Federal Republic of Germany and the German Democratic Republic should be the model for all civilized nations. That is if a cordon sanitaire is required by political, economic, military, or other hygienic reason.

      The antithesis of the Schengen Area.

      Keeps the riff raff in and/or out; depending on one’s perspective and placement in relation to the demarcation line.


      I understand the SM-70 “Dice Gun” was particularly effective in encouraging the Volk not to climb the fences.

      Good fences make for good neighbors, n’est pas?

  101. progress4what May 12, 2016 at 8:20 pm #

    Hey group. Long time no post, although some of you regulars will remember me. Hello to q, mdruid, mdarlig, o3, janos, stelmo, cash, marlin, and you other old timers. Not you, asoka/wpa – you just fuck up the thread and trip up the unwary.

    I don’t even lurk much anymore, this comment thread is too hard to follow. JHK, you sure can turn a phrase, though. It is appreciated. If you would disable nested comments I will make a donation.

    Couple of things I have to address. One is global warming/climate change/AGW/whateverthehell TPTB want to call it this year. I understand the science and consider it “settled.” IOW, humans are increasing CO2 levels by burning fossilized carbon and this is leading to increased global temperatures. I will accept that with no argument.

    With that said, though, nothing – repeat NOTHING – that is being proposed to mitigate AGW is going to make a difference. You people can yammer on this blog until Hell melts and you install solar panels for 30 years (the average life of a solar panel is 30 years, right?) and it’s not going to matter one whit.

    What would matter is reducing airline miles flown by US residents and global “citizens.” (What md calls discretionary petroleum use.) And reducing US population growth by reducing its cause (immigration) would matter, too.

    So – if you ever see serious initiative to reduce airline travel and incoming US immigration – you can deduce that somebody in management has decided that AGW is a real problem. ‘Till then, it’s all profuse verbal diarrhea and/or international political posturing.

    Also – still on the AGW, if things begin get serious with respect to sea level rise, etc – then you will begin to hear talk of planetary scale geoengineering. Until then ….. meh.

    I had another topic. Later

    • Frankiti May 12, 2016 at 8:56 pm #

      It’s funny how immigration primarily aids and sustains profligate reproducers and the failed cultures and societies where it occurs. This taboo is off limits. We can talk about chicks with d**ks in bathrooms all day, but can’t talk about too many humans. Nope, humanity is sanctified. Always. Mass immigration only encourages further destruction under the human footprint. Let nature takes its course. People lose it over chewed up Hostas and trampled tomato plants and seriously think about getting a tag license and a 3030 come autumn, but as the earth burns and melts and shrivels and smokes they can’t even consider responsible immigration policies and/or investing in planned parenthood franchises.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 12, 2016 at 11:21 pm #

      Hey Prog. How are you? Question: are raccoons dangerous to cats? There’s one who comes around to eat the dried cat food I leave out on my back porch. Some of the cats seem inclined to try and stand their ground against him. Is this a bad idea from their point of view? One time a whole gang of them showed up, and the alpha Tom was standing his ground, when one of the raccoons with a comical look on his face approached him. At the last second the cat bolted. What would have happened if he hadn’t? They seem comical but that’s just a random and perhaps superficial impression. I’ve heard they can be quite fierce.

      The other day the regular coon came up on the porch while I was feeding the cats, and seemed to “kneel” as if begging to be fed. I denied him of course, though I do like him. Can’t get into domesticating raccoons. C.S Lewis said that it’s natural for the beasts to worship man. When we fell, they fell. They are waiting for us to redeem them.

      This is an actual literal question. I’m not secretly talking about Blacks or anything or anyone else.

      • Sticks-of-TNT May 13, 2016 at 8:06 am #

        Hey Janos,

        Don’t fall for their lovable bandit look–that’s a complete ruse!

        They’re mean, nasty little creatures. Take it from a country boy. I have a large wooden deck around my house which my wife has populated with dozens of potted plants. At night (they’re nocturnal) they would come up on the deck and dig into her pots, knocking them over and spilling potting soil everywhere. They would leave huge piles of crap. They would get under the grill and knock the drip pan over. Generally disturb everything they could and just make a big mess of things.

        For a few years I would just play the dutiful husband and clean up the crap, straighten things up and try to organize to make things as racoon proof as possible. To no avail. They continued their campaign of mayhem and wanton destruction despite my best efforts. Finally, I had enough. I launched my own counter-offensive. (Think Bill Murray in Caddy Shack.)

        I had the county animal control officer come out and discuss what could be done. He left a couple of wire cage/traps but informed me the county would not take the animals away for us. “Disposal” was up to us. Thus began my program of “ethnic cleansing.”

        The traps were effective and every night I would catch a couple of coons. If I released them somewhere on my property they would find their way home and be right back at it. I could transport them to another area but dropping them off on someone else’s property would not be the neighborly thing to do. Despite my preference for letting them live, it seemed apparent I would have to destroy them.

        I own a very small caliber “pocket pistol” and decided that would be the cleanest way to kill them and minimize the mess. Up close is where you see just how vicious they are. Anytime I was near the cage they would bare their teeth and ferociously hiss and try to come after me. If cornered, they left no doubt as to their intention to attack. (As an aside, a friend got in the wrong location with one on my deck and had to fight it off with a broom and a trash can lid until he was able to make it back to the safety of the house.) When they bared their teeth at me, I decided my easiest shot would be to stick the barrel of the pistol right into their open mouth (through the cage) and pull the trigger. One shot in the head and they were dead, with no exit wound. After that I dug a deep hole in a remote location and dumped them from the cage right into the hole and covered them up.

        I continued this process, usually trapping two per night and disposing as described for more than a week. Amazingly, I killed maybe a dozen and a half of the varmints during my killing spree that summer. That was nearly ten years ago and I’m happy to report we no longer have a racoon problem.

        The take away for you Janos is don’t be deceived by the appearance of these creatures. There is nothing lovable or playful about them. Coons are vicious little savages and you should not try to make friends with them. At best they’ll trash your house and at worst you’ll have to be treated for rabies.

        Just as with you in your post, this is an actual literal answer. Despite references to pot, coons, ethnic cleansing, etc., I also am not attempting to secretly communicate in code.

        However, actual animals were harmed in the making of this story.


        • Janos Skorenzy May 13, 2016 at 2:11 pm #

          Thanks for the report. One time when the whole gang was there, I did feel slightly cautious. The big one was no longer exactly what you’d call a small animal. I assumed they would scatter if I went out, and that they would not have attacked as a group, but still my subconscious did warn me. I’m in the city, yet packs of these guys wander around at night like quiet monkeys. Very interesting. In India, Leopards do the same.

          I’ll try to keep it positive since I don’t have to hate them. They obviously responded to your hatred with hatred, but as you say, they seemed to start it with a strangely non-animalistic malice. I’ve never experienced anything like that, but I’ve read about such things. I don’t mind one of them having a snack now and then, but I certainly don’t want it to be a regular thing, especially since that would put the cats in danger.

          They can be very joyful and fun to watch as they interact with each other. Apparently they can be raised as pets, but prove to be utterly exhausting although affectionate. I read about one who worked for hours with maniacal energy to fill up the toilet with small stones.

          • malthuss May 14, 2016 at 12:42 pm #

            Raccoons are a big problem in Germany [they were raised –for fur? in cages and escaped in WW@ bombing and now there are millions of them.]

            As for ‘shooting fish in a barrel’, I see that as the cowards way out.
            The plants could have been moved inside or given away and yr grill was unharmed, yes?

            ‘They are nasty when cornered’— as nature made them to be.
            You are nastier, as nature made you to be.

          • Sticks-of-TNT May 14, 2016 at 1:30 pm #

            There are advantages to being at the top of the food chain. It’s my house, not theirs. As in the Army, rank has its privileges.


            P.S. As with most husbands, my thoughts are subordinate to the little lady of the house. I was told to make the problem go away. When mama’s not happy, nobody’s happy!

      • elysianfield May 13, 2016 at 10:33 am #

        In nature, size is an arbiter. Cats are smaller, lighter than raccoons, on the average. In Human contests, such as prizefighting and wrestling, opponents are segregated according to weight. Your worst fears are realized…size DOES matter….

        • malthuss May 14, 2016 at 12:43 pm #

          Nonsense, a 100 pound chimp can easily destroy 3, 200 pound men.
          Strength matters.

          • elysianfield May 14, 2016 at 7:42 pm #

            If a 200 lb man were truly fighting for his life, and knew a little bit about what he was doing, I expect the issue would be in doubt.

      • stelmosfire May 13, 2016 at 12:51 pm #

        Hey Vlad, Sure ‘coons kick ass. I’ve got ’em in one of the barns. I also have a maybe 12-15 lb. orange feral Tom-Cat that lives in there. the cat walks with a limp but I would bet on him any day against those dang ring-tailed procyonids! I’ve caught them both (coons and cats) in the Have-a-Hart and I’ll tell ya when that orange man-o-war screams at me it scares the bejesus out of me. Don’t underestimate cats. They’re fast and mean when push comes to shove. He’d just as soon rip off my face as say hello.

    • MisterDarling May 13, 2016 at 2:01 am #

      M’yello Prog’4!

      RE | “What would matter is reducing airline miles flown by US residents and global “citizens.” (What md calls discretionary petroleum use.) And reducing US population growth by reducing its cause (immigration) would matter, too.”-p4w.

      Turn down the economy, turn down everything else. Discretionary income fell, then so did discretionary fuel use – and the use of every other raw material… It’s amazing how quickly greenhouse-gas production can be forced down when the economy collapses… We might actually see a halt before we hit 4C.

      Here’s hoping?


    • stelmosfire May 13, 2016 at 9:18 am #

      Hey Prog, long time no read! Regarding airline travel I am located on the southeastern leg of the great circle route from Europe to the USA. I can be in the backyard and sometimes see maybe 8 or 10 four engine aluminum tubes over the house at 12,000 meters. Everyone of them loaded with at least 250-400 global travelers. Where the “F” are all these people going? I’ve flown twice and have never been across the big pond. My wife of 33 years won’t fly so maybe I will have to take a ship like the old days. Well she saw “TITANTIC” so that may be out also!

  102. wpa_ccc May 12, 2016 at 8:44 pm #

    Welcome back, P4W!

    This week’s topic is Trumptopia. Your post did not mention if you are going to vote for Trump, though your views on immigration do seem compatible.

    Nice to see you posting again. I always enjoy your posts.

    • progress4what May 12, 2016 at 9:04 pm #

      whatever. With Provided Alias, Continuous Calumnious Commentary
      What you are doing is wrong.

      Post less.

      • wpa_ccc May 12, 2016 at 9:29 pm #

        Thank you so much for your advice.

        I apologize if my post frequency has offended you.

        I’ll try to be better and post less often.

      • messianicdruid May 12, 2016 at 10:08 pm #

        Hi and welcome, progress4what. I was wondering what had happened to you just the other day.

        Since you brought it up, do you think the people on the other planets of this solar system, that are also heating up, will “come together” to limit the impact of cow farts upon their places?

        I am much more concerned with the mitigation being attempted by mattoids as documented by http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org . By spraying these chemicals in an attempt to block radiation coming in they are trapping more of it that would have been reflected back out into space, causing a feedback loop. This is the true AGW. Schmucksperts ( or fiends ) making things only worse.

  103. fodase May 12, 2016 at 9:48 pm #

    and then suffer the consequences of not believing what 99 percent of the scientists say is going on.

    lol, so your cliched ’99 percent’ is suddenly really 99% of scientists.

    maybe it is, give us some source for that though.

    i won’t be surprised if we start actually seeing benefits from warming, e.g. it ignites tons of plant growth, more cropland.

    one thing that’s more ‘settled’ than AGW ‘settled’ science is that there is a 100% chance that shenanigans are going on with climate change as
    a way to TAX and CONTROL.

    i’m starting to warm to Mr. Sanders, merely for his sticktoiveness against the reprehensible clinton hag.

    she’s the one ‘fighting for us’ lol, wow what a great slogan to whip people up into supporting her.

    The eminent Mr. Trump is already – if we can believe the polls – passing her in popularity in huge swing states traditionally democratic. And Mr. Trump hasn’t even started swinging!

    ‘Crooked Hillary’ has already stuck more than her cancerously anemic slogan (it’s like she’s hired someone to find the least energising way to present herself).

    Her colossal loss will be good riddance to bad rubbish.

    The Wall will be built, and common sense will become entrenched once again.

    Allahu akhbar bitches

    • malthuss May 12, 2016 at 9:57 pm #

      alla who? why has Islam taken center stage?

  104. malthuss May 12, 2016 at 9:58 pm #

    Paul Nehlen is challenging Paul Ryan for his seat in Wisconsin,
    I hope Wisconsin reminds Paul Ryan who he’s supposed to be working for, and sends him packing.

    1) Reclaim Wisconsin’s 1st District for We The People
    2) Stop Paul Ryan’s Cronyism & Corruption
    3) Secure Our Borders & Enforce Existing Immigration Laws
    people seen this?
    Paul Ryan Says U.S. Must Admit Muslim Migrants, Sends Kids to Private School that Screens Them Out
    But he’s up for re-election. Meet Paul Nehlen, the Business Executive Aiming to Knock Off Paul Ryan

  105. MisterDarling May 12, 2016 at 11:04 pm #

    @ messianicdruid:

    RE | “I remember getting 301 dollars a month, and then paying 150 a month for rent while I was stationed at Ft Lewis. There was no base housing for my wife and I. I also remember hitching 11 miles to the base from Spanaway for months because I couldn’t afford a 50 dollar car my friend offered to sell me. When I was sent to the Canal Zone the waiting period for on post housing was 18 months.”

    I’ve heard that living conditions for soldiers in the post-Vietnam Era were horrible, by all accounts. That was before my time so I can’t vouch for that. On the other hand I do know that if someone left the armed forces at the end of the 80’s and returned in the early Oughts, they saw a shocking change: civilians had taken over. A very large part of the military was privatized in the 90’s – and they were getting paid most of the budget to do it.

    SO… Here’s the funny thing: there’s this poster on CFN claiming that service-members receive most of the benefit of the US’s defense budget. Of course, this sounds insanely stupid to anyone who’s ever actually served or worked within the DoD framework. On the other hand, we now live in a society where most people have no skin in the game, so it might be interesting to unpack this rubbish and spray a powerful sanitizing solution on it.

    “$146 Billion” for wages and benefits is what service-members are getting – regardless of where their assigned or which agency their assigned to. That’s the bottom-line number. Most of everything else is going to for-profit enterprises brought in to lower costs by being more efficient, did the opposite, and who are now joined together to fight spending caps created by Congress. [1]

    According to this CFN-poster “Interest on national debt of $409 billion (80% estimated to be created by military spending).” is ‘for’ service-members. Well, only as much as any borrowing from the Federal Reserve so they can receive interest payments is ‘for’ every other US citizen. The ‘benefit’ of that borrowing isn’t theirs to claim the sole benefit of, so we can take that off the ledger. [2]

    Since military-base operations, maintenance, construction, housing and revolving management is now in the hands of Halliburton, partners and subsidiaries (and a handful of local contractors) that’s another $267 Billion in the hands of civilian profiteers. [3]

    “$82 Billion” for healthcare and other services is another area not administered by a lot of military people – certainly not off-post – and the ‘service’ they provide is questionable. Apparently, even veterans get the shaft when it comes to healthcare.

    Since most of the employees are civilians and the operating budget is the VA’s, I’ll be generous and say 1/2 of that $82B is “for” military people (past and present). Add that to 1/2 of NASA’s “$10 Billion” budget and all of the DoE’s “$21 Billion” (a civilian organization put together for the sake of private enterprise) and that’s another $80 Billion in civilian contractor’s pockets.

    A subtotal of $53 Billion is earmarked for the Dept. of Homeland Security, the State Dept. & the FBI – which are civilian organizations – and “$3 Billion” for ‘Other’ is another set of expenses that military-folk see none of. Again, when military people work with outside agencies they don’t pick up another paycheck, their benefits do not increase and the money is being spent for the agencies. All of this adds another $56 Billion dollars.

    Lastly, there’s another $52.6 Billion for ‘black budgets’ – operating costs of the NSA other spy agencies doing things that most military-folk have no direct knowledge of, do not benefit from, and are scrutinized by as much as the general population. [4]

    As you can see, the vast majority of the defense budget is benefiting civilian contractors rather than the well-being of rank-and-file military people. Work that was performed cheaply by service-members is now in other hands.

    Yes, there’s a lot of money going into ‘defending’ the nation and ‘our’ interests. No, soldiers are not living high on the hog because of that. Costs have exploded over the past 25 years – precisely because the American military has become a cash-cow for greedy defense-industry racketeers.


    [1] http://time.com/3984453/defense-contractors-lobbying/

    [2] “$179 Billion” for veterans benefits is either mislabeled or double-counted, even if added to the total it doesn’t offset the amount being made by profiteers – especially when it’s civilians getting paid to administer them.

    [3] http://www.thenation.com/article/385-billion-military-industrial-boondoggle-youve-never-heard/

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    • MisterDarling May 12, 2016 at 11:05 pm #

      Additional Reference:

      [4] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/national/black-budget/

    • MisterDarling May 13, 2016 at 12:44 am #

      Correction: Add “$13 Billion” for “Internal Security” – that refers to civilian security guards and other personnel assigned to guard military installations and equipment. When soldiers are working on or in their equipment or are occupying a facility, that doesn’t get a separate entry… this fixes the “$80B” addition error.

      • messianicdruid May 13, 2016 at 11:55 am #

        Thank You for the additional clarification. I’m hoping wpa-ccc benefits from it. Like Smedley Butler I have realized it is a big racket.

        My wife and cousin (100% disabled vet) have been after me for years to go and apply for VA benefits. I have resisted because there are many of my brothers that need (and deserve) it more than I do. I am some what conflicted since this would assist in bringing down this corrupt system, sooner.

        The army was good for me, personally. When I said that the military had not changed I was speaking quite generally. Your documentation shows that the racket has improved operations substantially. Unfortunately most military folks are recruited too young to recognize what is happening until they are owned.

        • Sticks-of-TNT May 13, 2016 at 1:53 pm #

          Smedley Butler made the point that WAR was the racket and spread that message in a nationwide speaking tour during the 1930s. For him the realization came too late, by that time his career was over. (In all likelihood, he came to the conclusion gradually over time, long before the end of his career. However, he must have realized that his status as a Major General and the most highly decorated Marine in Marine Corps history gave him the credibility and a platform to be able to speak out after he had retired.)

          The war is a racket business is what has NOT changed. What Eisenhower dubbed the military-industrial (we should add congressional to the phrase) complex in his farewell address to the nation in 1960 has only grown larger to the point that armaments is now the biggest part of America’s industrial base.

          We add congressional to the mix because defense contractors OWN congressmen, who in turn, make sure the funds keep flowing. At the same time, the neo-con war mongers in the think tanks and the K-Street lobbyists stay busy manufacturing the rationale for perpetual warfare while the NSA and the rest of the security state work hard to keep the public worried in an ongoing effort to justify their own existence and grow their own budgets.

          Meanwhile, as always, is the young, dumb, ’11 bravo’ grunt, walking point at the tip of the spear, oblivious to the racket which envelopes him. That has been constant throughout recorded history, unlikely to change anytime soon. As long as the politicians have the steady supply of new recruits, and the funds to keep the defense contractors paid, the rationale for the wars and the long reach of the empire, will continue according to plan.

          “The soldier, above all other people, prays for peace, for he must suffer and bear, the deepest wounds and scars of war.” -Douglas MacArthur


          • MisterDarling May 14, 2016 at 2:38 pm #

            @ Sticks:

            “We add congressional to the mix because defense contractors OWN congressmen, who in turn, make sure the funds keep flowing.”

            A prime example of a “self-licking ice-cream cone”… It gets even weirder when DynCorp’s paid to keep supply convoys safe in Afghanistan, then pays off ‘local tribal leaders’ tied directly to al-Haqqani & Taliban fighters – effectively subsidizing the very people that they were paid to fend off.

            It gets better – just look at the Syrian fiasco. This is what happens when war becomes a for-profit activity.


          • BackRowHeckler May 14, 2016 at 7:59 pm #

            Hey Sticks,

            Butler was a Marines Marine, maybe the best ever, but you have to remember he was a Quaker after all, and kind of went off the deep end in his later years, in the 1930s.


        • Sticks-of-TNT May 13, 2016 at 2:15 pm #


          By all means apply for your VA benefits.

          You’ve waited forty years since you served to ask for payment of something you are OWED. As the smallest cog in the system, there is no reason to feel any guilt. After all, everyone stands in line at the VA and the lines will be there regardless what you do.

          As always, thank you for your servitude, shitizen!


  106. Walter B May 13, 2016 at 12:21 am #

    Unfortunately, America has developed not only the world’s biggest drug problem, but also the planet’s largest addiction to happy lies coupled with a severe aversion to the truth. The dimwitted idiots who mindlessly press the “R” or the “D” levers in the “Booths of Doom” are clearly incapable of being able to choose their own leadership in the first place, never mind the fact that they are not given real choices anyway. A nation of idiots deserves an idiot to rule it and it seems to me that this eventuality has already been chosen with the “election” and the “conventions” somewhere down that winding road to ruin. In the end, that drug problem may very well be the only answer to this dilemma – Pain Management!

    • malthuss May 13, 2016 at 11:20 am #

      well at least the feral dogs and cats will decline in numbers and with food scraps scarce, perhaps the rat problem will abate.

      See, C Boos, ‘http://www.amazon.com/Behind-Beautiful-Forevers-Mumbai-Undercity/dp/081297932X?tag=duckduckgo-ffsb-20

      eating rats and murdering babies in Mumbai. yuk.

    • Sticks-of-TNT May 13, 2016 at 11:30 am #

      Very sad. Makes one appreciate home sweet home. Yet, still can’t help wondering, does the same fate await us?

  107. stelmosfire May 13, 2016 at 9:27 am #

    More S### to worry about, there goes the green beans!


  108. fodase May 13, 2016 at 10:39 am #

    south americans are eminently stupid when it comes to economics. there’s no helping them

    • malthuss May 14, 2016 at 12:47 pm #

      But WHY? Is it the Spanish influence? The Native population cant relate to industrial civilization?
      Why is Mexico like it is and USA like it is, or was?

  109. FincaInTheMountains May 13, 2016 at 11:40 am #

    Reason for all MADness you see in today’s world – the 2006 Article in “Foreign Affairs”

    The Rise of U.S. Nuclear Primacy

    the age of MAD is nearing an end. Today, for the first time in almost 50 years, the United States stands on the verge of attaining nuclear primacy.

    It will probably soon be possible for the United States to destroy the long-range nuclear arsenals of Russia or China with a first strike.

    This dramatic shift in the nuclear balance of power stems from a series of improvements in the United States’ nuclear systems, the precipitous decline of Russia’s arsenal, and the glacial pace of modernization of China’s nuclear forces.

    Unless Washington’s policies change or Moscow and Beijing take steps to increase the size and readiness of their forces, Russia and China — and the rest of the world — will live in the shadow of U.S. nuclear primacy for many years to come.


    Fuckers were wrong, weren’t they?

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  110. barbisbest May 13, 2016 at 12:37 pm #

    “Old Cherokee Proverb: A People aren’t defeated until their woman’s hearts are on the ground. In other words, we are defeated.”

    Whoever posted this, good stuff.

    Thank you for this week’s excellent work JHK.

    My fortune on the day this was posted, “Time is precious, but truth is more precious than time.”

  111. volodya May 13, 2016 at 2:21 pm #

    Mister Darling, Whose side do you take in the kerfuffle? Do you even take a side? The personal “in” or “out” decision can have far reaching consequences, in fact life or death consequences, especially for military men but also for civilians. And I suspect that typically the decision has to be made without a lot of deliberation or information.

    An attempt by the military to inject themselves into the political process could have a raft of unintended consequences no matter how good the initial intentions. As they say the road to hell is paved with them.

    There’s a lot of things that point to nastiness, the vociferousness of political discourse, the historical rancor between north and south, racial divides, deliberately fostered identity divides, wealth and income inequities. The list goes on and on. Not to mention the millions with military training and combat experience and the hundreds of millions of guns and gun owners. The Spanish Civil War could end up looking tame in comparison. Some of the road to hell may be paved with good intentions but I suspect it’s a lot more bad intentions than good.

  112. volodya May 13, 2016 at 2:39 pm #

    Al Klein, this “diversity” thing is just another one of those divisive culture-war provocations designed to whip people up while Oligarchs empty out pension funds and ransack banks. That’s all it is. They get people angry by saying insulting things about the white men that built the country, they imply that a majority white country is somehow inadequate, not that majority Asian or Black countries have any parallel inadequacies.

    What the diversity-ites are touting is quackery. They talk about equity and fairness but in reality it’s not about equity and fairness, it’s about distraction. Nothing more.

    Don’t fall for it, keep your eye on the ball. As for the useful idiots that find some temporary employment and personal validation in this diversity nonsense, they’ll find out for themselves what loyalty means to the Oligarch. That is to say, it means nothing. They’ll get flushed away like a morning dump.

    • Q. Shtik May 13, 2016 at 2:53 pm #

      They’ll get flushed away like a morning dump. – Volodya


      Oh, how crude!

      • elysianfield May 13, 2016 at 5:21 pm #

        “like a morning dump.”


    • ozone May 14, 2016 at 10:00 am #

      You’ve nailed the crux of the matter. All these non-issues are only a concern to those who think the status quo is going to remain just that. Sorry to report to the wishful-thinkers who indulge in/philosophize about these distractions… it ain’t. At this very moment, The Deep State is deliberately throwing bucketfuls of shit at the fan, hoping that the rackets can be kept up by a low-grade WW3. This too will come to a very bad end.

      Burgeoning bureaucracies of the Deep State’s Praetorian Guard; from an article by Doug Casey. Whether or not you agree with his strategies for the future is irrelevant to the *observation*, diversion-mongers… (Yes, you know exactly who you are, don’t you?)

      “Whenever I return to the U.S., dealing with Immigration and Customs makes my skin crawl. And they’re no longer just at airports and the border; they now range many miles inland and make random stops to see if your papers are in order.

      They’re almost as objectionable as the TSA, which has developed a highly dangerous corporate culture, even as it’s grown in numbers and power, now reaching into buses, trains, and soon the highways. The FBI, the CIA, the DEA, the ATF, the Secret Service, the Federal Marshals, FEMA, and literally scores of other national law enforcement agencies are all expanding rapidly.”

      The whole of the article:

  113. Janos Skorenzy May 13, 2016 at 2:46 pm #


    Who else will stand with them against the Muslims? They prayed for Hitler as well, with his picture sold in the marketplaces. Some even saw Him as a partial incarnation of Vishnu. The Swastika or Sun Wheel, portrays the force of Evolution and predicts the ultimate victory of Good over Evil.

    Is Trump Kalki, the Man on the White Horse, the last incarnation of Vishnu? No, there has been far too much ambiguity in his character and history. But he may be a forerunner, making straight the way of the Lord.

  114. FincaInTheMountains May 13, 2016 at 3:21 pm #

    Global West is not the United States or Germany, or France, but all sorts of supranational structures such as EU and NATO, or the IMF (their name is legion), and the United States, and Germany and France are now allies of Russia in the fight against global West whose entire calculation that it could provoke conflicts of Western countries with Russia and China before Trump kills these organizations or subordinate them to the US national interests.

    After that, Russia and the United States of course will have some problems due to collision of National interests, but in which a nuclear war because of Ukraine is clearly not on agenda.

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  115. FincaInTheMountains May 13, 2016 at 3:35 pm #

    U.S. Invades Canada After Russian-Backed Coup In Ottawa


    Just to put things in perspective.

  116. FincaInTheMountains May 13, 2016 at 5:30 pm #

    ISIS is planning to attack Israel from Sinai

    The Israeli military is concerned that the Islamic State group is planning a large-scale attack against Israel from Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula. It could include the use of tanks and artillery by the terrorist group.

    “When will the battle starts is not clear yet. But every day the situation is getting more acute,” – said IDF Lieutenant Ada Bibi. The seriousness of the threat is the fact that the Israeli military leadership has called the drill of the legendary mixed battalion “Caracals”- similar drills were not conduced since the battalion was founded in 2004.


  117. ZrCrypDiK May 13, 2016 at 8:26 pm #

    “symbiotic rackets producing maximum incompetence affecting adversely the majority of citizens”

    That pretty much sums it up – exponentially! (population/depletion/pollution/destruction)

    “Then what?”

    (Shallow Grave) Well, what then…

  118. messianicdruid May 14, 2016 at 12:44 am #

    At seventeen, I didn’t have many options but it all worked out okay. Given the same times and circumstances, I’d do it again, only better.

    Being patriotic and naive gives one a measure of peace. I am thankful for all of it, knowing ( experiencing ) that my Father brings good out of evil, which brings peace that passes understanding ( explanation ).

    I expect there are only months for the checks to keep hitting the mailboxes, so why bother? The goobermint has no money that it does not steal from my neighbors, and now even that is about gone.

    • messianicdruid May 14, 2016 at 10:45 am #

      Nicolaitanism ( that thing which Jesus hates ) explained:


      “…repent ( change your mind ) for the kingdom ( rulership ) of Heaven is at hand.”

      “You shall have no other gods ( rulemakers ) before Me.”

      • messianicdruid May 14, 2016 at 10:48 am #


  119. Janos Skorenzy May 14, 2016 at 3:34 am #


    Order today and get an “End of An Error” bumpersticker “FREE”!

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    • messianicdruid May 14, 2016 at 9:48 am #

      Is it guaranteed?

    • malthuss May 14, 2016 at 2:56 pm #

      Monday can u post the name of the Chinese scientist who is or was wroking in Chicago and was told to ‘shut up?’

      Pat Boyle said

      Politics has tried to obscure the issue and the mistakes are routinely cited because they serve the liberal agenda.
      Let me try to explain some of the confusing MAOA facts.

      When I took genetics as an undergraduate the professor laid emphasis on the “Central Dogma”. This was an idea of Crick’s. Most laymen if they know any genetics at all think in terms of the Central Dogma. Unfortunately it is wrong and out of date.

      The Central Dogma is that you have your genetic information coded in DNA. The DNA is transcribed to RNA and the RNA codes for proteins. When Crick created the Central Dogma it was thought to explain everything about heredity.

      But then we discovered RNA only coding and processes that seem to go backwards.

      Then science discovered that there didn’t seem to be enough DNA to account for the complexity of humans. Many lower organisms had more protein coding genetic material. It didn’t make sense that yeast had a bigger genome than a person.

      That was about the time that the literature began to refer to ‘junk DNA’. It came to be believed that most of the human genome was filled with non-functional DNA that had merely took up space.
      At this time liberal ‘pseudo scientists’ used to say that Africans had a bigger genome than other races. Steve Sailer replied that this was most this was mostly useless ‘junk DNA’. The prevailing view was that older races accumulated DNA snipets that didn’t do anything.

      But this was wrong. Relatively little of the human genome is dedicated to coding proteins. And the coding system is not obvious. Most of the proteins coded are coded in several parts. So different proteins are assembled from the same sequences. The order and procedure for assembling proteins is in that so called junk DNA. These are the exxons and introns you may have read about. The so called junk DNA specifies how the exxons are to be assembled into complete proteins.

      MAOA is part of this assembler DNA. It is not a gene in the old sense of a DNA sequence that codes for a specific protein. It is what is called a ‘promoter’. It specifies how many times a coding sequence is to be used. If you have a four sequence rather than a three you will code up more of the end resulting protein.

      In MAOA apparently over time humans gradually developed more and more copies of the target gene and the promoter sequences grew longer. This gets a little confusing because MAOA doesn’t code directly for a hormone, it codes for the enzyme that destroys a hormone. So those people with higher sequences of promoters have less of a certain neurotransmitter not more.

      Also there are some serious mistakes in the literature that persist in the article cited.
      These mistakes lead you think that Chinese are more aggressive than blacks and Maori not less. This isn’t so. The more primitive people on Earth have shorter promoter sequences. The advanced races have longer promoter sequences.
      But politics has tried to obscure the issue and the mistakes are routinely cited because they serve the liberal agenda.

      The short answer is that Whites clear their synapses of dopamine faster. The Maori and Africans stew in their neurotransmitter longer and while in that state tend to pick up a gun and shoot someone.

      • monkey_flower May 17, 2016 at 9:03 pm #

        Hello Malthuss. I am compelled to reply to your long post. I know about the cover-up involving RNA and its influence on DNA. Just one of many in the world of “science”.

        We are living in a new Dark Age. The bastards get away with it because they know no one has an attention span long enough to comprehend the issues at hand.

  120. FincaInTheMountains May 14, 2016 at 5:28 am #

    Putin: Russia Will Act To Neutralize U.S. Missile Shield Threat

    A ballistic missile defense shield which the United States has activated in Europe is a step to a new arms race, Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Friday, vowing to adjust budget spending to neutralize “emerging threats” to Russia.


    In fact, not “will”, but already does.

    Just during the last 2 years since the “Norman Ultimatum”, Russia put on the combat duty 9 ballistic missile carrying submarines with total of 1,416 individually-targeted nuclear warheads.


    And all these warhead launchers could be secretly within just several days placed at a distance of 22.2 km (less than 14 miles) from the territory of the continental United States.

    Russia is also deploying invisible ‘Death Trains’ with nukes: combat railway missile complexes with ballistic missiles that are indistinguishable from regular freight trains and could be easily hidden in the system of railroads on the country’s vast territory bringing to naught the capabilities of satellite surveillance.

    Russia is also deploying Super-Radioactive Atomic Torpedo – Status 6 – to defeat of the important economic facilities in the area of the enemy coast, and causing unacceptable damage through the establishment of extensive zones of radioactive contamination, unsuitable for implementation in these areas of military, economic, business or other activity for a long time.

    The foundation of modern Russian military doctrine: to make sure in the case of a major conflict Americans will get to see it through the windows of their living rooms, rather than on their TV screens.

    • FincaInTheMountains May 14, 2016 at 5:33 am #

      The MAD is madder than ever

  121. FincaInTheMountains May 14, 2016 at 6:15 am #

    American Google is fond of Russians

    You are probably familiar with Google auto-prompt feature: when you start typing a search phrase it will try to come up with several commonly used search phrases.

    So, try start typing “why russian are” – here is the list of possible completion:

    why russian are so smart
    why russian are so beautiful
    why russian are so strong
    why russian are so rude

    Now when you do the same for “why americans” Google will prompt you with 2 phrases:

    why americans are fat
    why americans hate government

    The most Russophobe version turned out to be the Russian version of Google. When you start entering “Why Russians are” (in Russian) Google will start prompting you with following:

    why russians are so stupid
    why russians are so angry
    why russians are such animals
    why russians are such scum
    why russians are so lazy

    • FincaInTheMountains May 14, 2016 at 6:22 am #

      A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house

      • sprawlcapital May 15, 2016 at 6:26 pm #

        My father used to say that often. The prophet is not without honor, except in his own home. He considered himself to be the prophet, of course.

    • messianicdruid May 14, 2016 at 9:55 am #

      That is very interesting!

  122. FincaInTheMountains May 14, 2016 at 9:38 am #

    Donetsk Madonna (as appose to Sistine Madonna)

    In Facebook like wildfire spreads (goes viral) Photo of Donetsk Madonna.

    Mother and a child were killed as a result of Ukrainian army punitive operation firing multiple-rocket launch systems against residential neighborhoods of Horlovka in the Donetsk region.

    Caution: extreme graphics



    • Sticks-of-TNT May 14, 2016 at 1:51 pm #


      Clicking on your links took me here:


      Any idea why? Thanks.

      • FincaInTheMountains May 14, 2016 at 2:28 pm #

        It seems that you are trying to open the image in some sort of the frame and the site that hosts the image has a policy not to allow that.

        Try either right-clicking on the link and opening it in a separate window or tab, or different browser.

  123. volodya May 14, 2016 at 11:46 am #

    Ozone, as you say, the status-quo isn’t long for this world. It won’t go on because it can’t. The math, so many levels of it, just doesn’t pan out.

    Doesn’t matter how many distractors the gubbermint throws at sites like this, doesn’t matter how pervasive the infestation of thought-police masquerading as diversity experts, doesn’t matter how many black-garbed muscle-head-gun-men are on the case and doesn’t matter what electronic surveillance they inflict.

    And it doesn’t matter how many times the oh-so edumacated insist that the mouth-breathers or the hopelessly naive that vote Trump and Bernie respectively are respectively racist and inexperienced. The pundits have it all ass-backward, they see things that aren’t there, they don’t see things that ARE there.

    Fake statistics proclaiming all is well doesn’t make it well, market misinformation posing as price-discovery doesn’t make it price discovery. Doesn’t matter what alphabet soup of regulatory agencies insist it’s so. Insisting something is so doesn’t make it so. In the end, the numbers just don’t work.

    • MisterDarling May 14, 2016 at 2:26 pm #

      Volodya, Ozone & Co.,

      “Ozone, as you say, the status-quo isn’t long for this world. It won’t go on because it can’t. The math, so many levels of it, just doesn’t pan out.”

      A prime example of bullshit unwinding itself is playing out in the Retail/Service sector:

      1) Retail spending becomes 2/3rds of the GDP and a primary source of employment,

      2) Retail wages fall below subsistence level,

      3) discretionary income of these underpaid worker/consumers dries up and so does Retail revenue,

      4) workers push for wage increases,

      5) Retail chains threaten to replace jobs with automated systems,

      6) Retail fails anyway b/c there are even fewer paying customers…

      There are multiple other failure-loops in play right now, mainly generated by Big Finance’s refusal to allow price-discovery. After all, if ‘Wendy’ the shop-girl can share a place at $200/month instead of $1200, that leaves enough money to buy, save and generally ‘have a life’. Of course, that would have required that real estate prices normalized… So-ooo… 😉

      • ZrCrypDiK May 14, 2016 at 2:40 pm #

        Trust-u-me, Vol aint Ozone Pete. Me-thinks ™ he’s ColdNH (membaz’ him?) Yeah, you, you, *you*!!! (hehe, Soker) What’s left of the *forests* or *reefs*…

      • ozone May 15, 2016 at 3:33 pm #

        Here’s an interesting holistic perspective, couched in the metaphor of the rogue wave:


        Who is it that we think may actually prepare and who will be quickly subsumed by adopting an attitude of blissful ignorance? Is that the only predicate for determining the quick and the dead? (Of course, I’m not discounting a big blob of *luck* as a factor. 😉 )

  124. MisterDarling May 14, 2016 at 2:07 pm #


    RE | “Mister Darling, Whose side do you take in the kerfuffle? Do you even take a side? The personal “in” or “out” decision can have far reaching consequences, in fact life or death consequences, especially for military men but also for civilians. And I suspect that typically the decision has to be made without a lot of deliberation or information.”-v.

    I’ll assume that you asked the queston rhetorically. Any scenario where a military commander can seize power is already in a world of hurt. Libya, Venezuela, Somalia, Syria, the disintegration of Yugoslavia are recent examples. Under those circumstances you’d better take the side that leaves you with the most options, the one with the most rational leadership, the side that isn’t dedicating itself to the ‘pursuit of perfection’, ‘purity’ or any other offer to hop aboard the crazy-train.

    Military leadership is good at a few things – mostly to do with crisis management. You can count on a military junta to: 1) force a peace-agreement on warring factions, 2) stop the looting & rioting, 3) turn the utilities back on, 4) clear the roadways of wrecks and roadblocks, and 5) be pretty easy to ‘wheel and deal’ with regarding basic merchant activity – people in uniform are just as interested in getting life’s littel amenities as anyone else, so that leaves a lot of room for a businessman with a ‘can-do’ attitude.

    Just to be clear, this is not what I’d prefer in normal situation. when things are desperate it beats the alternatives: political extremists, religious extremists, tribal/racial crazies, &c.

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    • MisterDarling May 14, 2016 at 2:41 pm #

      EDIT: little instead of “littel”, [W]hen… &c.

    • Sticks-of-TNT May 15, 2016 at 4:38 am #

      Great analysis MisterDarling. Good post!


    • Janos Skorenzy May 15, 2016 at 8:58 pm #

      Rule by strong men in concert with or support of religious, tribal, and racial “crazies” IS the Norm.

      You are postulating some kind of value free system in regards to these things? Hardly. In fact, our status quo has very rigid views on Religion (against Christianity), Tribalism (against traditional Americans) and Race (against Whites). Instead of these, it endorses the Welfare State and Global Order of Diversity and Multiculturalism. As a staunch devotee of the Status Quo, you are wildly enthusiastic about this Agenda. If it changes, you intend to be the first to know, like a spider who can feel the slightest disturbance in her web.

  125. FincaInTheMountains May 14, 2016 at 2:24 pm #

    Reasons for Muslim mayor of London

    Recent developments in the United States (the actual Trump victory in the primaries of the Republican Party and increasing pressure on Clinton) more and more indicate that the world will be divided into zones of influence of major regional players, forming a system of currency zones.

    And in United States (except for those who are behind Clinton) are increasingly more often talking about the failure of the global hegemony, and it’s not just rhetoric against the backdrop of the fall of the standard of living of the population: there are just no sufficient resources to maintain it.

    The approximate composition of these zones is already clear: it is the dollar zone, the Yuan, the euro (perhaps except Eastern Europe, but with the former French West Africa), the Eurasian Region (which includes not only former Soviet republics, but also Turkey, Eastern Europe , unified Korea, Vietnam and Japan, India and Brazil to south Africa.

    But there are two objects in this scenario, a place of which is not very clear. It is the Sunni world and the United Kingdom. It should be noted that Iran’s position is quite clear: having received, after the collapse of the Saudi Arabia, its oil provinces (which are populated by Shia), it will become a powerful regional power, but which, nevertheless, will not reach the full status of a currency zone and therefore will lean toward the Eurasian zone.

    The situation is rather complicated for UK. On the one hand, the current Brussels bureaucracy, which finally became a US “litter”, does not suit the former imperial elite of Great Britain which is well illustrated by the history of the referendum on the exit from the EU.

    On the other – when in Germany, France, Italy forces close to the aristocratic “continental” elites will come to power, to negotiate with them for British would be extremely difficult, they have their own interests. And the only chance to negotiate with them in this situation would be their own trump card – major regional markets in terms of volume.

    The tremendous activity of Tony Blair in the Middle East is linked precisely to the fact that the UK is trying to cobble together their own, not the currency zone, of course, for such a project its power is not enough, but some controlled regional group of Arab Sunny countries.

    Proceeding from this logic, the appearance of the Sunni mayor of London is understandable and justified. British Elite realized that the alliance project with China is not achievable (and HSBC refusal to transfer its headquarters to Hong Kong is a testimony to that) that the United States really want to make the EU its own “grazing ground” and control over Russia in the coming years will be lost – and started to implement a new long-term strategic plan.

    And such an increase of the role of the Islamic community, as the capital’s mayor being a Sunni Muslim, could be a major step towards the Sunni world, which will soon lose one of its main leaders, Saudi Arabia.

  126. Janos Skorenzy May 14, 2016 at 4:40 pm #

    Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35
    January 10, 1963

    Current Communist Goals



    Thursday, January 10, 1963

    Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

    At Mrs. Nordman’s request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following “Current Communist Goals,” which she identifies as an excerpt from “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen:

    [From “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen]


    1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

    2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

    3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

    4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

    5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

    6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

    7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

    8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

    9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

    10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

    11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

    12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

    13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

    14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

    15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

    16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

    18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

    19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

    20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

    21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

    22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”

    23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

    24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

    25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”

    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

    30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

    31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

    32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture–education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

    33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

    34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

    35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

    36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

    37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

    38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

    39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

    40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

    41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

    42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [“]united force[“] to solve economic, political or social problems.

    43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

    44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

    45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

    How many of these goals have been achieved or approximated during the last 60 years? Obama has greatly worked on 26, the normalization of degeneracy. The Transgendered Bathroom may be the line in the sand. They’re pushing us too far too fast now. Time to push back.

  127. BackRowHeckler May 14, 2016 at 7:50 pm #

    BTBill, Stelmose & Ozone

    Thursday spent the day clearing brush on the property, a nasty enough job with roots, prickers, insects that bite, bees, poison Ivy, nemesis being the two snakes I scared up … needless to say I worked up a powerful thirst by about 3:00 pm; wife’s in France right now so for me it was time for a trip to the packy (otherwise I couldn’t be drinking in the middle of the day) Much to my delight, in the cooler, Tall Boys of sweet Narragansett Beer. I couldn’t believe its back! Do you remember those cool white cans? I bought up all he had in case he can’t get no more.

    So I say to you my New England Friends “Hi Neighbor — Have a ‘Gansett!”


    • Janos Skorenzy May 14, 2016 at 8:24 pm #

      Get up on the barrel and let’s hear you sing the Schaeffer Jingle.

      • BackRowHeckler May 14, 2016 at 9:54 pm #

        Schaeffer ‘aint from around here’.

        I think that was a NY brew.


      • pequiste May 15, 2016 at 6:16 am #

        Rheingold is the one beer to have, when you’re having more than one.

        Liked everything about the Rheingold – it was the Teutonophile brew especially the commercials.

    • beantownbill. May 14, 2016 at 10:55 pm #

      Or if you go really, really far back and can remember the commercial, “Hi, neighbor, gav a handset”.

    • ozone May 15, 2016 at 3:48 pm #

      Alrighty, Nasty-gansett it is!
      Remember the cases of quarts? For a big buzz betwixt 2 beer-soaked, belching bozos, splitting a case of ten behemoths would handily do the dastardly deed on the cheap… although I can no longer recommend such behavior. 😉

  128. capt spaulding May 14, 2016 at 8:18 pm #

    Your post above about clearing brush jogged my memory. George W Bush was fond of having the media take pictures of him with boots and gloves on, clearing brush on his ranch. I wonder if he still has a hankering to get out there on the weekends & put in some quality time with a brush hook? Or was that just for publicity?

    • BackRowHeckler May 14, 2016 at 9:59 pm #

      President Bush liked to work on his ranch on his time off.

      How about ‘Bath House Barry’? What’s he do on his down time? Sometime you see him in jeans, unfortunately they’re ‘Mom Jeans’.


    • Sticks-of-TNT May 15, 2016 at 4:20 am #

      I lived in Texas when Bush was governor. He bought his ranch, near Waco, late in his term in office. I’m convinced he wanted it as a background prop for his presidential campaign and as a “vacation” white house like the big boy presidents and his father had in Maine. But Texas is hotter than hell and no place you would want to ‘escape to’ from Washington, which is hot enough.

      After I moved away from Texas I liked to tell people I voted for Bush twice–two terms as Texas governor, zero for President. In Texas, the governor is mostly a figurehead office, with not much real power, which is how they designed it. (God love ’em, it really is a great state in so many ways!)

      Anyway, Bush couldn’t do too much damage and he was fairly harmless as governor, but no way was I going to vote for him as President. I wasn’t going to vote for Algore either, so I voted third party both times, something I’ve continued to do since all of the major party candidates have been such war mongers.

      Bush is such a phony. The very first time I saw him on television as President I told my wife, look at Bush, he’s walking differently. He literally looked like he was walking with a stick up his ass! As governor, he walked like the easy going, laid back, preppy frat boy. All of the sudden, it looked like he was trying to walk like Reagan, I guess. Just think back to the way he walked when he landed on the aircraft carrier during his ‘Mission Accomplished’ stunt. Of course we had been watching him for eight years as governor so we spotted it immediately.

      Reagan was the real deal. He had a ranch hand, a much younger man, who had been with him as a property caretaker for years. He said, despite the age difference, he was hard-pressed to keep up with Reagan. Together they built thousands of feet of wood fence, cleared tons of brush and assorted other projects over the years. After all the improvements, I’m not even sure the family kept it. I doubt his fruity son was even interested. Most men would give anything to have a place so beautiful, even if it took a lot of work to maintain it.


  129. Q. Shtik May 14, 2016 at 9:09 pm #

    It’s gonna be a madhouse around here tomorrow. Two miles up the road from my house President Obama will be the commencement speaker at the Rutgers graduation ceremony.


    And one city block further up the road is the annual Greek Festival which all by itself can create a traffic madhouse.

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    • beantownbill. May 14, 2016 at 10:58 pm #

      I love Greek festivals – we have one near us just south of Boston. All the cars double park on the road. The food is great.

      • beantownbill. May 14, 2016 at 11:01 pm #

        I was just thinking, instead of having a festival this year, maybe they should all send donations to Greece.

        • BackRowHeckler May 14, 2016 at 11:29 pm #

          When it come to Greece, I think we’re being bullsh-tted.

          Last year Greece had no money, but this year there’s plenty of cash to take care of hundreds of thousands of Muslim refugees coming in on leaky boats and rafts that barely float.

          Suddenly, we no longer hear about Greece in default.

          Speaking about Europe, my wife’s in France at the Cannes Film Festival; she says its one big shindig, nobody worried about any Refugee Crisis or Islamic Terror, in fact they’re partying like its 1913, or 1938. No worries!


          • Janos Skorenzy May 15, 2016 at 4:38 pm #

            Yes, just so. Likewise, if we let the Feds force the transgender bathroom thing down our throat because of “funding” then we deserve to be destroyed – and will be. Can you imagine what they’ll do next if they get away with this?


            As Lao Tzu said, “Close the schools. The people will benefit a hundred fold.”

  130. BackRowHeckler May 14, 2016 at 11:59 pm #

    Janos, that coon problem you mention above, they can be pesky rascals, those bandits, and hard to kill. We used to hunt them when I was a kid, shoot ’em right out of trees with our .22s.

    Didn’t you say a few years ago you bought a Mossberg 500? there you go, a more versatile gun very hard to find, modular and multi purposed, buy a box of goose or turkey loads, install full choke, should take care of any raccoon problems that might arise on your property.

    When you handle a dead raccoon wear gloves to prevent infection from the tulemia virus.


    • Janos Skorenzy May 15, 2016 at 3:27 am #

      No, I simply asked if they were a danger to my cats. Everyone wants to go on a Jihad against the Raccoons instead of our real enemies. I like the Raccoons. They are intelligent, adaptable, highly social, and have hands of a sort. They may well inherit the Earth if mankind fails.

      But thanks for input, everyone. I have the luxury of not hating them since I’m not surrounded by too much nature. Obviously if I was a farmer, I might see things differently. Ditto if the collapse comes. Reverence for Life? How? To live is to kill. The only consistent pacifists and vegetarians are Jain Monks in the process of purifying themselves (starving) to death.

      • Sticks-of-TNT May 15, 2016 at 5:09 am #

        Everyone here thought you had a heart of ice. We didn’t know you were really such a softy.

        It also shows you have more friends than your enemies assume–or at least a willingness to co-exist in a country called CFN!


        P.S. But lay off the rape/female oppression stuff. Some people think you’re serious. The rest of us enjoy the women company. Now if we could only get Frankiti to clean up his language, we might have a few more.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 15, 2016 at 3:07 pm #

          Rape/female oppression stuff. Rape/female oppression stuff? Because I’m against women being raped? Or because I’m against them voting for policies that will get them raped? Or because I’m against them voting?

          I’d rather have the raccoons voting with their paw prints than have women voting. Let’s include most men too. Is this news to you? If questions are framed properly, most voters would vote away the Bill of Rights.

          • Sticks-of-TNT May 15, 2016 at 11:37 pm #

            Easy Janos.

            I didn’t say anything about voting.

            I’m referring to whatever JenninSanJose said last week about rape that ignited the shitstorm against you. I was defending you–saying it wasn’t to be take literally, i.e., you obviously weren’t advocating rape. I don’t even remember what the comment was that she was upset about–one of your allegories or harmless poetic recitations, I’m sure.

            I read every post here and I don’t recall you ever saying anything that could even be interpreted as advocating rape. That’s why I couldn’t figure out the basis for her post.

            Yes, I also wish we were still a republic of intelligent, educated, property owning citizens instead of a mob ruled free-for-all ‘democracy’.

            I have a couple more comments but I lost a lot of sleep this weekend and I’m really feeling the effects. I’ll either post here to keep the thread intact (so check back, please) or I’ll continue under next week’s commentary.



  131. FincaInTheMountains May 15, 2016 at 6:49 am #

    The U.S. Army’s War Over Russia

    …the United States is in danger of being “outranged and outgunned” in the next war and, in particular, in a confrontation with Russia.

    Vladimir Putin’s military, the panel averred, had outstripped the U.S. in modern weapons capabilities. And the Army’s shrinking size meant that “the Army of the future will be too small to secure the nation.”

    It was a sobering assessment delivered by four of the most respected officers in the Army—including Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, his service’s leading intellectual. The claim is the prevailing view among senior Army officers, who fear that Army readiness and modernization programs are being weakened by successive cuts to the U.S. defense budget.


  132. FincaInTheMountains May 15, 2016 at 6:50 am #

    Looking under the hood


  133. themisanthrope May 15, 2016 at 9:12 am #

    “The tragedy is that no other serious, grown-up figures stepped forward in this dangerous moment of history.”

    The tragedy is that no one in his or her right mind would attempt to fix anything that’s as FUBAR as the USA. You’ve got to know when to fold ’em….

  134. FincaInTheMountains May 15, 2016 at 4:16 pm #

    On the declaration of principles of foreign policy, voiced by Donald Trump, the American press and the American establishment has responded with nervous giggles and outright defamations, despite the fact that a simple glance is enough to realize that for the first time we have a clear, ideologically coherent alternative to the policy of the past decades that the Americans themselves consider a failure.

    “There are five major weaknesses in our foreign policy” – stated Trump:

    “Firstly, our resources are totally over-stretched. Secondly, our allies do not pay their fair share of costs. Thirdly, our friends are starting to think that you can not rely on us. Fourth, our opponents do not respect us any more. Finally, America no longer has a clear understanding of our foreign policy goals. Since the end of the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union we lack the coherent foreign policy.”

    The Trump Ideology is a departure from the destructive globalization of recent years in favor of a healthy American isolationism.

    Like any normal American isolationist, Trump calls for strengthening of America. Its military domination is to be undisputed and indisputable, of course. But…

    “The world must know that we are not looking for enemies. We are always happy when old enemies become friends. We want to live in peace and friendship with Russia and China. We have serious differences with these two nations, but we must not be enemies. We should look for common ground on the basis of common interests “, – said Donald Trump.

    This world-view is built on the fact that America needs to pursue its own interests and not impose its values.

    This is the only way to negotiate. And the constant refrain of Trump that he would negotiate with Putin. Generally what Trump says about Putin and Russia, it is like a red rag for any globalist in America.

    Carter Page, the man whom Trump appointed his adviser on Russia, his opponents depict as marginalized conspiracy theorist only because he blames a group of people around Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland in provoking the coup in Kiev with the aim of seizing power by pro-American radicals.

    As regarding his professional experience, Mr. Page is an investment banker with three high education diplomas: the Naval Academy with honors, University of New York and London, and a doctoral degree. Paige created from scratch Moscow branch of Merrill Lynch, his company advises investors in energy projects in Russia and Asia.

    And the main specialist on Russia and Ukraine in the current administration – Victoria Nuland – has a bachelor’s degree from Brown University, counselor in Soviet-era boy-scout camp in Odessa, interpreter for the fishing fleet and the distribution of cookies on the Maidan in Kiev.

    No matter how you would view Trump, one thing could be stated: his brief declaration of foreign policy is the only intelligible, coherent and adequate American doctrine in the last 30 years.

    Trump has formulated the American anti-globalization and patriotic alternative. An alternative to the colossal forces and interests that have been activated by Ukrainian coup that created a self-reproducing mechanism of the Cold War.

    Attempt by Trump to stifle this mechanism does not promise him any good. However, the failure of this attempt does not promise anything good to America.

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  135. wpa_ccc May 15, 2016 at 5:34 pm #

    “GIVEN Donald J. Trump’s virtual lock on the Republican presidential nomination, you’d think he’d be a bit more upbeat. Instead, his campaign began last summer with “our country is going to hell,” then declared, “we’re becoming a third world country,” and by this month had progressed to the United States “losing all the time.”

    This election season, the impending apocalypse has been issue No. 1 for presidential aspirants on both sides. Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said he was running “because the world is falling apart.” Senator Ted Cruz, Republican of Texas, declared the United States “near an abyss.” On the left, Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont says the economy has been “destroyed” for all but the wealthy few.

    Presidential contenders are hardly alone in such bleak views. An April Gallup poll found that only 26 percent of Americans call themselves “satisfied” with “the way things are going” in the United States. It’s been this way for a while: January 2004, during the George W. Bush administration, was the last time a majority told Gallup they felt good about the nation’s course.

    Yet a glance out the window shows blue sky. There are troubling issues, including the horror of mass shootings, but most American social indicators have been positive at least for years, in many cases for decades. The country is, on the whole, in the best shape it’s ever been in. So what explains all the bad vibes?

    Social media and cable news, which highlight scare stories and overstate anger, bear part of the blame. So does the long-running decline in respect for the clergy, the news media, the courts and other institutions. The Republican Party’s strange insistence on disparaging the United States doesn’t help, either.

    But the core reason for the disconnect between the nation’s pretty-good condition and the gloomy conventional wisdom is that optimism itself has stopped being respectable. Pessimism is now the mainstream, with optimists viewed as Pollyannas. If you don’t think everything is awful, you don’t understand the situation!

    Objectively, the glass looks significantly more than half full.
    Job growth has been strong for five years, with unemployment now below where it was for most of the 1990s, a period some extol as the “good old days.” The American economy is No. 1 by a huge margin, larger than Nos. 2 and 3 (China and Japan) combined. Americans are seven times as productive, per capita, as Chinese citizens. The dollar is the currency the world craves — which means other countries perceive America’s long-term prospects as very good.

    Pollution, discrimination, crime and most diseases are in an extended decline; living standards, longevity and education levels continue to rise. The American military is not only the world’s strongest, it is the strongest ever. The United States leads the world in science and engineering, in business innovation, in every aspect of creativity, including the arts. Terrorism is a serious concern, but in the last 15 years, even taking into account Sept. 11, an American is five times more likely to be hit by lightning than to be killed by a terrorist.

    Is the middle class in dire straits, as Mr. Sanders contends? Yes, inflation-adjusted middle-class household income peaked in 1998 and has dropped slightly since. But during the same period, federal income taxes on the middle class went down, while benefits went up. Gary Burtless of the Brookings Institution has shown that when lower taxes and higher benefits are factored in, middle-class buying power has risen 36 percent in the current generation.

    Is American manufacturing in free fall, as Mr. Sanders and Mr. Trump assert? Figures from the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis show industrial output a tad below an all-time record level, while nearly double the output of the Reagan presidency, another supposed golden age. It’s just that advancing technology allows more manufacturing with fewer workers — a change unrelated to foreign competition.

    Manufacturing jobs described by Mr. Trump and Mr. Sanders as “lost” to China cannot be found there, or anywhere. As Charles Kenny of the nonpartisan Center for Global Development has shown, technology is causing factory-floor employment to diminish worldwide, even as loading docks hum with activity. This transition is jarring to say the least — but it was always inevitable. The evolution of the heavy-manufacturing sector away from workers and toward machines will not stop, even if international trade is cut off completely.

    A century ago, most Americans worked in agriculture: Today hardly any do, and we’re all better off, including farmers. That manual labor, farm or factory, has given way to 60 percent of Americans employed in white-collar circumstances is the important story in the long term. But nothing is achieved by moaning about the past. The challenge is to create even more white-collar opportunities.

    Though candidates on the right are full of fire and brimstone this year, the trend away from optimism is most pronounced among liberals. A century ago Progressives were the optimists, believing society could be improved, while conservatism saw the end-times approaching. Today progressive thought embraces Judgment Day, too. Climate change, inequality and racial tension are viewed not as the next round of problems to be solved, but as proof that the United States is horrible.

    And yet developing the postindustrial economy — while addressing issues such as inequality, greenhouse emissions and the condition of public schools — will require optimism. Pessimists think in terms of rear-guard actions to turn back the clock. Optimists understand that where the nation has faults, it’s time to roll up our sleeves and get to work.

    That’s why the lack of progressive optimism is so keenly felt. In recent decades, progressives drank too deeply of instant-doomsday claims. If their predictions had come true, today petroleum would be exhausted, huge numbers of major animal species would be extinct, crop failures would be causing mass starvation, developing-world poverty would be getting worse instead of declining fast. (In 1990, 37 percent of humanity lived in what the World Bank defines as extreme poverty; today it’s 10 percent.)

    The lack of optimism in contemporary liberal and centrist thinking opens the door to Trump-style demagogy, since if the country really is going to hell, we do indeed need walls. And because optimism has lost its standing in American public opinion, past reforms — among them environmental protection, anti-discrimination initiatives, income security for seniors, auto and aviation safety, interconnected global economics, improved policing and yes, Obamacare — don’t get credit for the good they have accomplished.

    In almost every case, reform has made America a better place, with fewer unintended consequences and lower transaction costs than expected. This is the strongest argument for the next round of reforms. The argument is better made in positive terms — which is why we need a revival of optimism.

    Recently Warren Buffett said that because of the “negative drumbeat” of politics, “many Americans now believe their children will not live as well as they themselves do. That view is dead wrong: The babies being born in America today are the luckiest crop in history.” This was not Nebraska folk wisdom; rather, it’s sophisticated analysis. The optimistic view is that it’s still morning in America, and if we fix what’s wrong, the best is yet to come. Such can-do, better-future thinking needs to make an appearance in the 2016 presidential campaign.” –NYT

  136. FincaInTheMountains May 15, 2016 at 5:51 pm #

    Overboard of high politics remained the whole oil and gas industry, with which highly mysterious things are still happening. The number of working oil and gas rigs in the US for the year was cut by half, and the oil giants have refused the US licenses to drill in the Arctic. Shell declared force majeure after the attacks of militants in Nigeria, and production in the country was reduced to the 1989 level. BP declared force majeure due to the fires in Canada.

    In general, the development of oil fields has fallen to 60-year low. The price of oil at the same time had difficulty staying at $46 level.

    All week, news came from Libya, where oil production could be reduced, or even stopped altogether in a month. Markets again did not flinch. Libya initiated the establishment of the Presidential Guard, and the US Special Forces took two bases in the country. Moreover, there is a dismissal of the Saudi oil minister, which inevitably would have to shake the markets, but no, nothing happened again. Finally, the former Minister of the Navy emphasized the involvement of Riyadh to the September 11 attacks.

    Markets pretended that nothing had happened.

    It seems that the era of the kings of oil has really gone. Today in trend is exploration and expropriation of offshore capital. You would think that missing in action $2 trillion could rescue the world economy.

    Perhaps this trend is as temporary as five years ago perturbations about the high bonuses of top managers of financial institutions. The topic has long been forgotten, and senior managers keep receiving their millions just as well.

  137. BackRowHeckler May 15, 2016 at 8:11 pm #

    “Can you imagine what they’ll think of next if they get away with this”- Janos, talking about allowing 40 year old freaks wearing nylons and high heels into the little girls locker room.

    I was thinking about that, Janos. I wouldn’t put anything past this lefty political scum. How much lower can it go? All I can say is, brother, keep a close watch on your little 5 year olds and younger!


    • wpa_ccc May 15, 2016 at 11:06 pm #

      Bathrooms are central to right-wing fear mongering.

      Bathrooms were segregated before the civil rights movement. (“are Blacks and whites going to share bathrooms?”)

      Bathrooms were a hot topic when women tried to get the Equal Right Amendment passed (“will women have to share bathrooms with men”?)

      Bathrooms were “problematic” when Americans with disabilities got the ADA pased in 1990. (“the cost of altering bathrooms will bankrupt small businesses!”)

      Bathrooms were an issue when LGBT fought for their rights because of the false and ignorant prejudice that gays are “predators.”

      Now trans-gendered persons have to fight the bathroom fight, too, and they will also win the right to use the bathroom that corresponds to their gender identity.

      • wpa_ccc May 15, 2016 at 11:45 pm #

        God bless Elizabeth Warren and Loretta Lynch!

        • tucsonspur May 16, 2016 at 4:06 am #

          “Please Mrs.Warren, I don’t wanna go…..there’s a redskin waitin’ out there, fixin’ to take my hair…..please Mrs. Warren, I don’t wanna go….”

  138. FincaInTheMountains May 16, 2016 at 6:25 am #

    Breitbart EXCLUSIVE: Bill fucked over 2,000 women, Hillary is a terrorist who terrorizes her husband’s alleged lovers and women who accuse him of sexual assault.


  139. FincaInTheMountains October 14, 2016 at 8:14 am #

    To: The Democratic National Committee
    Re: 2016 GOP presidential candidates
    Date: April 7, 2015
    This memo is intended to outline the strategy and goals a potential Hillary Clinton presidential campaign would have
    regarding the 2016 Republican presidential field. Clearly most of what is contained in this memo is work the DNC is
    already doing. This exercise is intended to put those ideas to paper.
    Our Goals & Strategy
    Our hope is that the goal of a potential HRC campaign and the DNC would be one-in-the-same: to make whomever the
    Republicans nominate unpalatable to a majority of the electorate. We have outlined three strategies to obtain our goal:
    1) Force all Republican candidates to lock themselves into extreme conservative positions that will hurt them in a
    general election;
    2) Undermine any credibility/trust Republican presidential candidates have to make inroads to our coalition or
    3) Muddy the waters on any potential attack lodged against HRC.
    Operationalizing the Strategy
    Pied Piper Candidates
    There are two ways to approach the strategies mentioned above. The first is to use the field as a whole to inflict damage
    on itself similar to what happened to Mitt Romney in 2012. The variety of candidates is a positive here, and many of the
    lesser known can serve as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right. In this scenario, we
    don’t want to marginalize the more extreme candidates, but make them more “Pied Piper” candidates who actually
    represent the mainstream of the Republican Party. Pied Piper candidates include, but aren’t limited to:
    • Ted Cruz
    • Donald Trump
    • Ben Carson
    We need to be elevating the Pied Piper candidates so that they are leaders of the pack and tell the press to them
    Undermining Their Message & Credibility
    Most of the more-established candidates will want to focus on building a winning general election coalition. The “Pied
    Pipers” of the field will mitigate this to a degree, but more will need to be done on certain candidates to undermine
    their credibility among our coalition (communities of color, millennials, women) and independent voters. In this regard,
    the goal here would be to show that they are just the same as every other GOP candidate: extremely conservative on
    these issues. Some examples:
    • Jeb Bush
    o What to undermine: the notion he is a “moderate” or concerned about regular Americans; perceived
    inroads with the Latino population.
    • Marco Rubio
    o What to undermine: the idea he has “fresh” ideas; his perceived appeal to Latinos
    • Scott Walker
    o What to undermine: the idea he can rally working- and middle class Americans.
    • Rand Paul
    o What to undermine: the idea he is a “different” kind of Republican; his stance on the military and his
    appeal to millennials and communities of color.
    • Bobby Jindal
    o What to undermine: his “new” ideas
    • Chris Christie
    o What to undermine: he tells it like it is.
    Muddying the Waters
    As we all know, the right wing attack machine has been building its opposition research on Hillary Clinton for decades.
    The RNC et al has been telegraphing they are ready to attack and do so with reckless abandon. One way we can respond
    to these attacks is to show how they boomerang onto the Republican presidential field. The goal, then, is to have a
    dossier on the GOP candidates on the likely attacks HRC will face. Based on attacks that have already occurred, the areas
    they are highlighting:
    • Transparency & disclosure
    • Donors & associations
    • Management & business dealings
    In this regard, any information on scandals or ethical lapses on the GOP candidates would serve well. We won’t be picky.
    Again, we think our goals mirror those of the DNC. We look forward to continuing the conversation

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