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The Rising

     The word lamppost is popping up lately with alarming frequency in connection with the word banker in all kinds of respectable places, and I don’t think this refers to, say, men in Armani suits searching for their car keys where the light is shining on the sidewalk after quaffing a few rare cuvee jeroboams of Louis Roederer Cristal. Rather, it seems to suggest a certain unease with the levers of jurisprudence in this republic of grifters, stooges, and bought-off lackeys. 
     Also of late come rumblings from the most august newspaper in the land that certain questions concerning LIBOR-fixing among American bank officials might soon be entertained in a federal courtroom. But isn’t it a fact that the US Department of Justice has its hands full – not to mention its dockets – with cases of alleged performance-doping by star athletes? Just think: all that effort (and expense!) at repeated prosecutions and Roger Clemens remains at large! His fastball might yet shred the constitution and dishonor all the combined sacrifices of our men in uniform in countless heroic wars.
     Meanwhile, has The New York Times sent a reporter to chat up the elusive John Corzine? It must be an easier job than, say, trekking to a cave in Tora Bora to interview the late Mr. Osama bin Laden – which a few plucky reporters actually accomplished back when – yet Mr. Corzine is now better hidden than the Orang-pendek of Sumatra. And higher-functioning, too, considering his current role as Uncle Scrooge McDuck to the Obama reelection campaign. In what 5th sub-basement of a Robert A. M. Stern-designed luxury high-rise does Mr. Corzine sit with his moneybags of purloined MF Global customer funds writing checks to the Democratic National Committee?
     All this is to say that when a few lame rumors of prosecutorial zeal appear in old gray mouthpiece for the status quo, you can bet that the true tipping point of public impatience has probably been breeched and the fall of the elites is closer than you think. In the sizzling sauna that the US has become under the regime of climate change denial, the black swans of political turmoil are moistly hatching. Who knows what form the mischief might take and how the trouble starts. Perhaps a hostage crisis at the Maidstone Club where families of a dozen hedge fund chiefs are held in the pool house by an out-of-work pipefitter from Wantagh high on bath salts. Or a swindled soybean farmer in a Semtex-rigged vest pays a call on the PFG-Best futures trading headquarters in Cedar Falls, Iowa, just as the lawyers and their financier clients sit down in the conference room to an ordered-in lunch of sloppy joes, fries, and slurpees. Or maybe a part-time evangelist off his Zoloft in some broiling strip-mall in a bankrupt California shit-hole sees the numbers 666 resolve among the remnants of his half-eaten enchilada on a Mitt Romney for President commemorative plate and packs up an arsenal of legally-acquired small arms for his journey to the Republican Convention in Tampa….
     This is, after all, the country where the Kardashians reign. Anything might happen.
     This is also the fruit of utterly failed moral leadership in a rudderless society adrift on a sea of delusion and untruth in an age of accounts unsettled. The battle over which empty suit gets elected president is a preface to the discovery that the national government only pretends to be in charge of anything. As the reality of total, comprehensive bankruptcy simmers up, perhaps a critical number of citizens stop forking over their quarterly taxes – since it would be the same thing as pounding sand down a rat-hole. Then, things really go south governance-wise. The next revolution in North America could make 1793 Paris look like an Ace of Cakes episode. Lamppost lynchings will seem too merciful. Rather, look for a new realty TV launch: Kardashian Kangaroo Kourt, in which every week a score of obscenely wealthy celebrities plucked from the realms of banking, showbiz and politics are dragged over three miles of barrel cactus in the Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge behind a Dodge Mopar-loaded Ram Runner (mostly American-made).
     In the meantime, let’s just all kick back these hot summer nights on the front porch with a few vodka and Red Bulls and enjoy Jack Abramoff’s new radio show on Clear Channel in which the re-branded “lobbying reformer” offers advice on improving the transaction of public business in our nation’s capital. This is Mr. Abramoff’s first job since completing his prison work-release gig in a kosher Baltimore pizza store. God bless you, Jack.


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803 Responses to “The Rising”

  1. San Jose Mom 51 July 16, 2012 at 9:14 am #


  2. Leibowitz Society July 16, 2012 at 9:16 am #

    Our civilization is showing signs of the confusion that comes upon people just before they die, when things are no longer clear and nothing’s operating correctly in the brain. The reality just hasn’t sunk in for everyone sitting around the corpse, waiting for the end of this cheap oil and cheap money fiasco.
    Visit the Leibowitz Society at http://leibowitzsociety.blogspot.com/2012/07/hundredth-post.html for more information and discussion related to our continuing journey into the new Dark Age.

  3. OccupyMBA July 16, 2012 at 9:18 am #

    Jim, right on. We are running on sheer institutional momentum now.
    For work exploring precisely how things might unravel, from now through 2040, see the “Inter States 2040” scenario fiction project at http://interstates2040.wikispaces.com/
    Installment 12 coming this month.

  4. RyeBeachBum July 16, 2012 at 9:25 am #

    Perhaps things will hold together till after the election, but only if Europe plays Ball, if not the conventions will be as you predict, either way the economic collapse is coming, perhaps around December 21 st, now wouldn’t that be something,

  5. empirestatebuilding July 16, 2012 at 9:28 am #

    I don’t know Jim. In Wantagh the out of work pipe fitter is still a staunch Republican who doesn’t want “his” taxes raised. He is scraping together what he can to pay his 10k a year property taxes so the current and former Nassau county police and civil servant forces can live lives of leisure knowing that their padded pensions are safe from harm.
    I don’t see Joe Pipe Fitter saying anything except what the Fox News Channel is telling him to say. He’ll vote for Romney because he is the White guy. He’ll vote against his economic interests again and again.
    And meanwhile at the southern tip of Wantagh in Jones Beach, Donald Trump has gotten the go ahead to build “Trump on the Ocean” an 80,000 square foot wedding factory on State land. Tax free forever.
    Don’t count on a revolution. The Goombas, Ginzos, Zipper Heads and Grease Monkeys of Long Island look at you like you are crazy if you bad mouth the USA.
    Aimlow Joe was here

  6. TrE July 16, 2012 at 9:30 am #

    Around 2004-2005, I remember a gloriously-trumpeted booksigning at a Lower Manhattan bookstore. Some star CEO was there, standing alone (well, with his publicist) at a table behind a stack of his self-titled blast of blather about boardrooms and golf courses, waiting for a long line of admirers that would not materialize. He was fidgeting, looking around. Nervous. No takers.
    I remember thinking then this is a hint of what’s someday to come. Nervous crooks, just realizing in a fear-filled moment that they’d overextended, tyeir uneasy backward glances betraying fear of a distant mob (which now, 7 years later, is probably within their sights).
    Just for fun I just went to amazon. The book is still available and can be had for a few dollars. Considering buying a bunch–good fuel this winter.

  7. k-dog July 16, 2012 at 9:35 am #

    This is, after all, the country where the Kardashians reign. Anything might happen.

    Or nothing may happen at all. Action requires spunk.

  8. 3rd Generation July 16, 2012 at 9:41 am #

    When will your new book “Too much Thesarus” be released ?
    Your website is beginning to resemble a turkish rug close out sale in a cheap flea market in a sweltering abandoned California strip mall shit-hole, especially the page where the sometime, when-you-get-around-to-it Thursday night ‘feature’ is presented.
    But I think I’ll order a dozen of those nifty Snorg Tees you have advertised to go with my lifetime supply of cheese doodles. This way, YOU can grift off a few cents.
    I have to go now. NASCAR re-runs and the cartoon channel is up and running again.
    There are no quarterly taxes anymore. There are No Jobs.
    No Jobs, No Taxes, No Leadership, No Nothing, except rampant corruption.
    No Future, and serial internet masturbation.
    That’s America.

  9. PRD July 16, 2012 at 9:44 am #

    The put-upon, underpaid, unemployed, or otherwise exploited and cheated American does not have the balls to start a confrontation or the brains to realize why he/she should.
    Of course, my own pitchfork remains in the garage and my torch unlit, so what does that say about ME—or any of us here?
    I’ve basically just checked out of the national political circus, my bank, certainly the stock market, and most of what passes for contemporary “culture.” Rather: I’m contributing to my local community in concrete, useful ways; building relationships; learning skills; practicing my instruments; and having fun.
    Violent revolutions are untidy, nasty affairs. And the definition of “revolution” is to end up where you started.

  10. Neon Vincent July 16, 2012 at 9:45 am #

    Corzine is an embarrassment, but I’m not even hearing many voices on the Right going after him. Instead, the only conversation I encountered in the mainstream media even remotely on the topic was between one of Mitt Romney’s fellow ex-partners at Bain Capital and a woman from Occupy the SEC, with a professor and the economic policy person from the NAACP looking on in a segment of Up on MSNBC. The actual crisis and the bankers part in that was a sideshow; the main attraction was the feeding frenzy on the what passes for the Left over Mitt Romney and his time at Bain Capital and his not releasing his tax returns. After two years of bad news, what passes for the Left smells their opponents’ blood in the water, something they haven’t sensed since Sarah Palin was on the ticket.
    I’ve been writing about the campaign over at Crazy Eddie’s Motie News, but mostly about local and state races; enough people have the presidential contest covered. Besides, Michigan has become a much more interesting place lately, in the sense of the Chinese curse. In addition to local politics, I’ve been writing about the heat wave, climate change, the gas price rollercoaster, the destruction of cultural sites in Mali, Friday the 13th, Bastille Day, and my experiences with my students.
    Speaking of my students, I’ll be showing them “The End of Suburbia” again this week. I’ll see if the range of reactions again extends from people on the Left agreeing with Jim to people on the Right rejecting him, with those in the middle being merely scared and confused, or if I get something novel. For that, I can usually rely on the immigrants, such as the Ukrainian woman who remarked that “Americans are so spoiled. Peak Oil will take away their toys and they’ll all cry.” She wasn’t scared. She survived a collapse already.
    Happy Motoring–for now–from Detroit!

  11. Crazy Horse July 16, 2012 at 9:45 am #

    Welcome to the feed lot, folks.
    On one side of the trough we have a skinny Ass, leader of the Rope-A-Dope party. He’s the consummate liar, his silver tongue never ceasing to babble about all the good things he hopes to do for you while doing the exact opposite for the benefit of his masters. He has a whole team of underlings whose job it is to shovel the Hopium that continually flows from his Ass onto the Sheeple milling below.
    No other politician in the history of this country has been as successful in facilitating financial fraud and exterminating the rule of law. Millions of families thrown out of their homes on the basis of fraudulent mortgage deeds lumped into fraudulent securities using the fraudulent title transfer system called MERS with not a single prosecution brought by the Ass’s department of Injustice. His favorite fund raiser Jon Corzine walks off with a billion dollars of customer money while Justice turns a blind eye. Massive subsidies for criminal medical insurance companies disguised as a health care system. Trillions of dollars in payouts to the Bankster Cabal that bought his election, all financed by layering debt onto the public account. His personal assassination drones scan the globe searching for real and imagined enemies in defiance of all international law, sowing terror among enemies and any women or children who happen to be nearby. He continues to expand the permanent warfare state envisioned by his predecessor while turning every campaign promise on its head and sucking a trillion dollars per year out of the productive economy.
    And on the other side of the trough we have a giant beast with a ridiculously long nose. (The better to snarf up your last penny, my dear) This beast heads an organization that proudly calls itself The Party of Greed. Its supporters are legion, implanted at birth with a microchip that turns any rational thought on its head. For their Supreme Leader they have chosen one of their own— a man incapable of even pretending to know what life is like for the inferior beings upon which his financial wealth rests. He has an unusual characteristic for a politician —the inability to lie all the time. On a regular basis he says exactly what he believes — you know, “I don’t give a shit about the poor” or “hardly any of my annual income is from speaking engagements– its actually less than 400k.” Compared to his opponent the Ass, he has a great advantage because his career success was built upon understanding how the Business of America works. Take over a productive company that needs money to expand, use its assets to borrow more that it is really worth, transfer the funds to your own account, bankrupt the company, fire all the workers, and ship the jobs off to China were the workers are all 14 year old girls dreaming of earning enough to afford a stuffed teddy bear.
    If the elephant wins will he be able to match the Ass‘s success in driving America to ruin? It’s a tall order, but he’s certainly the right cyborg for the job.

  12. John T Anderson July 16, 2012 at 9:49 am #

    Re PFGBest in Cedar Falls, Iowa: The FBI is on the case already. Agents arrested the firm’s founder and CEO, Russell Wasendorf Sr., at the mental facility where he was taken after he attempted suicide by running a hose from his car’s exhaust into the passenger compartment, and hauled his sorry butt directly to Federal court for arraignment. This may be the beginning of a get-tough attitude on the part of the Obama administration, if only because this is an election year where they are running against this kind of malfeasance.

  13. Zev Paiss July 16, 2012 at 9:51 am #

    Jim – Excellent podcast with Chris Martinson! You are both so articulate while providing somewhat different incites into our current challenges. We must continue to offer realistic and thoughtful narratives of how we can get through this challenging time.
    Please take a look at my recently published futuristic mystery “From Here to There: A Story of America’s Future” and join the conversation surrounding what we can do to make it through this time. http://www.fromhere-tothere.org

  14. aenomaus July 16, 2012 at 9:59 am #

    See Bobcat Goldthwait’s new movie God Bless America for one possible way this may play out for some.

  15. conchscooter July 16, 2012 at 10:01 am #

    You’ve skipped a circle in the downward spiral. Before we demonize the one percent first we take down civil servants who have become the root cause of all our troubles. It’s not the bankers and money managers, it’s the firefighters and city clerks’ fault.
    Vive la Revolution!

  16. Ogier de Beauseant July 16, 2012 at 10:15 am #

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, The more things change the more they stay the same. History is the grave yard of schemes and massacre, bubbles and genocide: but we prevail…or at least endure. And if we somehow manage to navigate the shoals of this troubled time, some kill-joys are going to be pissed. Not mentioning any names.

  17. J Lee July 16, 2012 at 10:19 am #


  18. William Hunter Duncan July 16, 2012 at 10:20 am #

    Yeah, DHS didn’t buy 450 million rounds of hollow point bullets for nothin’. Or Obama the hegemon constitutional lawyer, allowing for military control through martial law, indefinite detention, the takeover of communications, etc, just because. Or the military running exercises in the streets of St Louis, or International special forces running exercises on the waterfront of Tampa Bay.
    Question is, do Americans go psycho ala Orlov’s recent assessment, and start rounding up the people actually trying to do something meaningful about the problem, and otherwise killing off each other, or will they direct that anger at those who manage this monstrosity?
    What, you think the Mayans ending/beginning their 5,126 long count calendar on the winter solstice of this year was just a lucky guess? Might as well enjoy it, before the shift, whether that happens on that date, or another nearby. ‘Cause it’s a-shiftin’.

  19. Belisarius July 16, 2012 at 10:21 am #

    There is NO current possibility of an actual, planned popular revolution in this country. As long as the infrastructure holds together, the powers will know of any such plot in plenty of time to co-opt or destroy it. If they let one develop it will be either to legitimize a new emperor directly, or behind some “committee”; or perhaps an excuse for a lockdown, and test run of the internment camps.
    A spontaneous revolution could develop quickly if anything happens to: (1.) disrupt the delivery of paycotropic drugs (mostly anti-depressants)to the 50+ million plus legal USA addicts; or (2) interrupt the smooth receipt of EBT SNAP benefits to the 40+ million entitled. Perhaps that is why DHS put in such a large ammo order earlier this year.
    Neither type is likely to accomplish anything positive.

  20. Jimmy Drinkwater July 16, 2012 at 10:24 am #

    That made my head spin just a little JHK.
    Recall that Hemingway line: “A man goes broke slowly, then all at once.”
    I’m thinking it’s the way change will come, for societies, public fortunes and even climate.

  21. wardoc July 16, 2012 at 10:28 am #

    “This is, after all, the country where the Kardashians reign. Anything might happen.”
    This is the best summary statement of the current state of things I’ve seen in a long time.
    A world where the top spot is taken by a bunch of admittedly attractive and shapely ho’s and their entourage, who probably have their own personal physician just for treating their recurrent STDs. Amerika !! Love it or leave it. Oh, I forgot, now you can’t take your money when you leave.

  22. Kyooshtik July 16, 2012 at 10:52 am #

    providing somewhat different incites into our current challenges.
    I hope you hired a good proofreader for that novel of yours.

  23. ozone July 16, 2012 at 10:55 am #

    JHK sez:
    “All this is to say that when a few lame rumors of prosecutorial zeal appear in old gray mouthpiece for the status quo, you can bet that the true tipping point of public impatience has probably been breeched and the fall of the elites is closer than you think. In the sizzling sauna that the US has become under the regime of climate change denial, the black swans of political turmoil are moistly hatching. Who knows what form the mischief might take and how the trouble starts.”
    And therein lies the rub. The “moist hatchings” (great visual there Mr. K) are those things that have either have not been taken into account; are true pop-up surprises; or have been [to this point] actively squelched/suppressed.
    I don’t think the “fall of the elites” will come until after the “brutal oppression BY the elites”; that’s the way these little kerfuffles usually metastasizes.
    I’d have to concur with Jimmy Drinkwater’s assessment. Sort of like an active fault-line; a few very low-frequency rumblings, then, WHAMMO… rubble and cinders. How long will the rumblings and moist hatchings continue? That would be a famous Rumsfeldian-ism: an unknown unknown. My crystal ball shattered after the conclusive “victory” in Vietnam.
    Gads! Casino Jack plucks a plum for being a disgrace??? There ya have it folks; corruption brings unending reward. That is now us, and that is all…

  24. Kyooshtik July 16, 2012 at 10:55 am #

    When will your new book “Too much Thesarus” be released ?
    That’s funny 3RD.

  25. ozone July 16, 2012 at 10:56 am #

    “metastasize”, singular.

  26. newworld July 16, 2012 at 11:02 am #

    Jim, zerohedge ran some of your work yesterday.
    What do you folks expect? David Brooks the NYTs pet conservative tried to tell his people to start acting like they give a shit about the future like the old WASP establishment. Any of you people think that is going to happen? Look at the author of this blog his bit of paranoia where anyone who looks like me is a “corn pone nazi.” Sturdy timber for an elite out of that kind of cultural background it is not.
    What about the pschologically damaged occupant of the whitehouse? His media entourage who only encourage his psychosis by telling him and his nearly illiterate voting base that “racists” are coming to get him. His wife believes he couldn’t even pump his own gas when he actually drove without whites trying to gun him down in Chicago. This is the elite?
    I’ll take the WASPs anyday. You anti-whites can just go pound sand.

  27. Kyooshtik July 16, 2012 at 11:07 am #

    I’ve been writing about the campaign over at Crazy Eddie’s Motie News,
    Every week you advertise your blog here at CFN so I might as well finally ask, what is a “Motie?”

  28. malthus July 16, 2012 at 11:09 am #

    And who says Crazy Horse is dead? You lay out the opposing parties so well that it will stick in my head forever. Well done.

  29. Fissile July 16, 2012 at 11:10 am #

    What you’ve described is not only taking place on “Lawn-Guyland” but it’s the same thing in North Jersey, with the exception of the cop salaries and pensions being even higher.
    Take “wealthy” Bergen County for example. Seventy incorporated municipalities and 75 different law enforcement agencies….all with their own HQs, chiefs, and full compliment of administrative staff and supervising officers.
    I live in a town that is one square mile in area. The chief of police oversees a department of 20 people. The chief is paid $170K per year, only $5K less than the governor. The chief’s Cadillac healthcare plan, pension contributions, and other perks/benefits add another $70K to the annual cost.
    The previous chief retired last year with a $115K pension and healthcare for himself and his wife forever. He also collected over $200K to buy out his unused sick/vaction/personal,days some of which he claims he earned back in 1974. Oh, the wife of the former chief is a retired school board secretary collecting $45K in pension.
    We’ve also got our full compliment of “Goombas, Ginzos, Zipper Heads and Grease Monkeys” in addition to Dot-heads and more Jews anywhere outside of Tel Aviv. They also look at you as if you are an escapee from a mental institution if you suggest saving money by consolidating public services, or merging smaller towns with their larger neighbors. You’d think that the Jews would be more sensible, but nope, they seem to be just as dense as the Ginzos.
    I’m convinced that Russian and Chinese satellites are beaming stupid-rays down on the US.

  30. newworld July 16, 2012 at 11:20 am #

    Suburban Will county Illinois (home of Chicagoland raceway you NASCAR fans) pays its DCFS case workers 80-90k per year to hand out welfare checks to the metastisizing welfare state.
    That is hush money to keep them quiet so the top level politicians D and R can keep their mitts in the stash. My local R elected official was part of the suburban Republican lay down effort so Govenor “Quimby” Quinn “D” could sneak back into office and continue the looting. They do as the “nice” soccer moms wish, they place nice together.

  31. a_human July 16, 2012 at 11:25 am #

    people can stay in a subservient, abused state, with the aristocracy skimming off their labor-value/wealth, for generations. think middle ages. the living conditions can be much worse and the transgressions against basic humanity much more horrifying than they currently are, and still, on and on it will go. i think it depends on some basic strategies employed by the folks in power, things like creating a hierarchy among the peons so they fight amongst themselves, creating a loyal and feared personal army, promising people a better ‘life’ later on sometime (like in heaven, after they die) IF they behave subserviently now, convincing people their privation is all their own fault, and so on and so forth – strategies well known and actively used by the folks in power today. so as much as it seems like people have just GOT to get fed up with it, sometime soon, history seems to show that uprisings are uncommon at best, and almost inevitably replace one set of sociopaths with an entirely new set of sociopaths – vanishingly few governments appear to have the happiness and well-being of the populace as any sort of priority. so what would make this time different? i personally doubt we will see lynchings anytime soon, and doubt even more that any good could come of it.

  32. Kyooshtik July 16, 2012 at 11:29 am #

    they place nice together.

  33. driften July 16, 2012 at 11:30 am #

    “a hostage crisis at the Maidstone Club where families of a dozen hedge fund chiefs are held in the pool house by an out-of-work pipefitter from Wantagh high on bath salts.”
    One can only hope those who have benefitted from this cf would pay the price, however, the stoned pipefitter will end up eating the face off the homeless joe sitting across the street from the entrance to the Maidstone…

  34. sevenmmm July 16, 2012 at 11:36 am #

    As much as we all want this easy life to continue – selfishly, at least until the end of our sendentary life – a very few of us understand the totality of a species in overshoot.
    The only difference between humans and all the rest of the species, ever before having the chance at life, and most always ending in some fashion of overshoot, us humans were smart enough to learn how to exploit everything until it was nearly all gone. And whatever is left we posioned to the brink of nothing being able to survive.
    The resources available to future humans is going to be scant with even those with likened with the most rugged of the peasants – having survived during the darkest middle ages – are going to have a tough go of it.
    No doubt these people able to make life work in the “rough ages” to come, will not tolerate anyone who can’t pull their weight. After the lamp posts have wore out, the oldest oak trees will revengefully take their place. As the heaviest users of resources must go.
    Good luck. You are all going to need it.

  35. Al Klein July 16, 2012 at 11:51 am #

    CFNers, I know this comment relates to a different topic than today’s JHK article, nevertheless it is at least a CFN topic. Has anybody else noticed the “news” lately that Peak Oil is no more – that Peak Oil was just a Chicken Little moment? What are we to make of this “news”? I mean, there were always detractors to the concept of Peak Oil. That said, I get the impression there are new actors in this coterie and their campaign against Peak Oil has reached a new, more strident level. Am I wrong on this?

  36. Al Klein July 16, 2012 at 12:03 pm #

    “This is, after all, the country where the Kardashians reign. Anything might happen.” A black kid at my gym recently remarked to a bunch of us: “Who are these Kardashians? What did they do? Why are they famous? What makes them so special?” Nobody could give him a reasoned answer – which was his point.

  37. anti soak July 16, 2012 at 12:05 pm #

    Sad b ut true.
    I found this at ‘Angry White Dude’. Someone emailed ‘the Government’ with a polite question.
    The Police and EPA Special Agents showed up at his door.
    Keller proceeded to try and contact Mr. Armendariz by Googling him. His domain was a subset of Southern Methodist University, he was directed to contact a Dr. David Gray who is the Director of External Affairs for the EPA.
    Keller wrote a simple, one sentence email to Dr. Gray which said simply,
    “Hello Mr. Gray-Do you have Mr. Armendariz’s contact information so we can say hello?”
    On May 2nd, just a little over a week after the Armendariz crucify comments had flared up, two special agents from the EPA and a local police officer showed up at Mr. Keller’s home. Here is the story in his own words:
    On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 at about 1:45PM two Special Agents from the EPA and an armed police officer who stood 6’6” tall visited our house in Asheville, NC. Their visit was a total surprise as we had not received any communications requesting an appointment. The agents presented very official looking badges and asked if we could sit and chat awhile. We moved to the back porch and took our seats with the exception of the armed officer who stood by the door to the house the entire time.
    Keller was asked by the agents if he ran a business out of his home, and if so, what kind of business. Keller runs a consulting business from his home. Then he was asked if he had ever sent an email to anyone at the EPA. Keller, not remembering the email initially said no, then remembered his email to Dr. Gray trying to get the contact information for Al Armendariz. This is what happened next:
    At this point Agent Woods reach into a file and from it he pulled out a copy of my email to Dr. Gray. He handed it to me and I asked what was there about the content that justified their driving across the state of NC to visit me with no prior warning.
    The other agent then stated that my choice of words in the email could be interpreted in many ways. At that point I asked them to be specific as they were wasting my time. I stated that I pay for agents’ salaries and that of the police officer and they have bigger fish to fry. Special Agent Woods then asked if I had ever been arrested – the answer was a swift no. I then asked for a copy of the email they presented and they said that was impossible as the investigation was not yet complete.
    Keller asked the agents for business cards that they had previously promised him and they were miraculously out of business cards. The two agents, who had driven four hours from Raleigh, North Carolina for this encounter with Mr. Keller, left via the back staircase as quickly as they had appeared without supplying Larry Keller with their contact information.
    He also states that the agents had parked blocking his driveway and that the local police officer had parked in his neighbor’s driveway.

  38. anti soak July 16, 2012 at 12:10 pm #

    ‘I live in a town that is one square mile in area.’
    I live in a city about 2 x 3 miles.
    City Budget: half a billion, nearly.
    JC College Presidents salary? Id guess a quarter million. Hes a ‘Glib Globalist’ who requires his students to endure ‘global citizenship’ classes to get a diploma!
    We are a sustainable city. Perhaps an anti bullying clause will soon be instituted.

  39. Kyooshtik July 16, 2012 at 12:12 pm #

    us humans were smart enough
    The resources available to future humans is going to be scant
    with even those with likened with
    huh?? say what??

  40. Kyooshtik July 16, 2012 at 12:19 pm #

    Nobody could give him a reasoned answer
    That’s ridiculous…they have pretty faces and big tits, it’s that simple.

  41. budizwiser July 16, 2012 at 12:34 pm #

    JK – this week’s essay is gold – baby -its gold.

    Perhaps a hostage crisis at the Maidstone Club where families of a dozen hedge fund chiefs are held in the pool house by an out-of-work pipefitter from Wantagh high on bath salts. Or a swindled soybean farmer in a Semtex-rigged vest pays a call on the PFG-Best futures trading headquarters in Cedar Falls, Iowa, just as the lawyers and their financier clients sit down in the conference room to an ordered-in lunch of sloppy joes, fries, and slurpees. Or maybe a part-time evangelist off his Zoloft in some broiling strip-mall in a bankrupt California shit-hole sees the numbers 666 resolve among the remnants of his half-eaten enchilada on a Mitt Romney for President commemorative plate and packs up an arsenal of legally-acquired small arms for his journey to the Republican Convention in Tampa….

    Keep thinking good thoughts. As some have said before us “when in the course of human events it becomes necessary”
    Unfortunately the State has prepared for the ilk of you or any individual Patriots – if change does come – it will take the masses……

  42. scrubby July 16, 2012 at 12:38 pm #

    Jim, about the “american public”: You overestimate their fitness — mental and physical — to engage in any retaliative justice such as you describe. These are the same, ignorant, tasteless, immature people you regularly put in their place. Do you think most of them have even heard of Corzine and his ilk? You can’t have it both ways, Jim. Americans will turn on each other, not their overlords.

  43. Kyooshtik July 16, 2012 at 1:09 pm #

    I just diverted my attention from CFN to CNBC where a young blond named Nicole Miller Regan, an analyst at Piper Jaffray, was holding forth. Not only did she have a typical case of vocal fry but she had a near terminal case of “up-talk.” If everything she said were honestly transcribed into writing there would be a question mark at the end of each sentence. Up-talk is another speech pattern — raising the voice register up on the last word of a sentence — that has inexplicably swept the country among the young of both genders. Can anyone explain the rationale for this weird phenomenon?
    Along with the economy and the rule of law, our spoken Standard American English language is going down the crapper followed closely by our written language.

  44. Vlad Krandz July 16, 2012 at 1:15 pm #

    Yes, yes I can. They want to be seen as questioning ordinary assumption and of course the authorities that hold them.
    As Whitman said, obey little, question much. Of course I’m sure he would see them as the morons that they are.

  45. Vlad Krandz July 16, 2012 at 1:17 pm #

    He wouldn’t say anything if they were Black. In fact, he would be outraged if anyone questioned their validity.

  46. Vlad Krandz July 16, 2012 at 1:20 pm #

    The Jew always has animus for the Armenian. Why? Because they remind him of his Khazar roots – and that a Semite he is not.
    Armenia is right next door to lost Khazaria and the two peoples were similar.

  47. myrtlemay July 16, 2012 at 1:23 pm #

    No, they DON’T have bigger fish to fry. The police state that is amerika is all about controlling its citizens. Small case in point. I live in N.C. A girlfriend of mine lives about 3 hours from me in Black Mountain, N.C. She told me that the police have stopped her car no less than 3 times in the past 6 months. The first time she got pulled for not putting on her turn signal to change lanes (this on a country road around 9:00 p.m. She had just left work.) The next time she got pulled about a mile from her house (country road) because her car momentarily crossed the white line at the edge of the road. The last time she got pulled was after stopping at some bar’s parking lot to make a call from her cell phone. The cop pulled her over for suspected DWI (she doesn’t drink or do drugs). She asked the cop what it was that made him think she was under the influence. He started to tell her that the bar she was at (mind you, she never entered the establishment) was routinely found to serve alcohol to customers who were already inebriated. He then quickly corrected himself to suggest that her tags were expired (they weren’t).
    This friend is pushing 60, five foot 2, weighs about 90 pounds soaking wet, has a master’s degree and owns her own business. And SHE is the one the police are after. Kinda makes you wonder who the “enemies” of the state really are. Hint: It ain’t Corzine or any of the banksters/fraudsters. It’s you and me, babe! And TPTB are just getting started rounding us up.
    When it gets to the point that citizens learn they cannot trust the police or the politicians to uphold the law, lawlessness runs rampant. Kitty Genovese was brutally murdered in New York City some 50 years ago. When neighbors were questioned by the police about why they didn’t report hearing her screams and cries, they made all sorts of claims. The most outrageous claim to me was that “they didn’t want to get involved.” But honestly, who would WANT to get involved when much of our law enforcement officers and their superiors are a bunch of brutal thugs and liars, preying on 60 year old, law-abiding citizens? It’s like what George Carlin famously said, “It’s a great big club, only you and me ain’t in it!”

  48. Desperado July 16, 2012 at 1:37 pm #

    “…lamppost lynchings will seem too merciful…”
    I have two words:

  49. turkle July 16, 2012 at 1:53 pm #

    Why hello!

  50. turkle July 16, 2012 at 1:54 pm #

    Uh. Ok. Another little factoid that I apparently did not know…

  51. turkle July 16, 2012 at 1:57 pm #

    “the true tipping point of public impatience has probably been breeched and the fall of the elites is closer than you think”
    Jimbo, I wouldn’t count on it if I were you.

  52. turkle July 16, 2012 at 1:58 pm #

    How is it that Vlad always knows exactly what every member of a gigantic ethnic group is thinking? Is it some kind of mental telepathy?

  53. Desperado July 16, 2012 at 1:58 pm #

    It’s a two way street with the local cops, they’re just high on mini-fascist fumes at the moment.
    Start your own ‘list’ of local ‘authorities’ who you deem to be corrupt running lackeys dog whores. Google them, spend $25 bucks on a monthly membership for an internet ‘private eye’ credit checking/divorce/arrest record/child payment dodger site.
    Go mining for dirt on the dirtbags, don’t worry, there is plenty to be found on all of them. Catalog it, Google map their location.
    Send anonymous copies of the dirt to their neighbors and family and work colleagues.
    Think of it as a modern day Madame Thérèse Defarge storing and taking names of dirty cops, dirty judges, dirty politicians, dirty bankers.
    She stored the information of the dirtbags of her time by weaving it into a code in her knitting. She revealed their names and location to the new powers that be and then took her knitting to the front row while they were guillotined. Sweet.
    Since there is no Rule of Law in Duh’merica anymore, it will arise anew own it’s own as an Emergent Property.
    Remember, you can’t tell the players without a score card.

  54. turkle July 16, 2012 at 2:07 pm #

    Sounds like the police in your neck of the woods have too much time on their hands and not enough to do.

  55. Vlad Krandz July 16, 2012 at 2:09 pm #

    Ever think about learning to read braille? It would greatly enhance your literary experience if you could just close your eyes and let the images form in your mind’s eye.

  56. staninco July 16, 2012 at 2:09 pm #

    “…a score of obscenely wealthy celebrities plucked from the realms of banking, showbiz and politics…” What about pro sports? Or is that considered a facet of showbiz?

  57. turkle July 16, 2012 at 2:10 pm #

    “The next revolution in North America could make 1793 Paris look like an Ace of Cakes episode.”
    Or not. Cable tv and the internet keep the masses busy these days. Back in the day lynching the nobility was a good form of entertainment. But now we have youtube.

  58. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 2:12 pm #

    Being pulled over for nothing makes white folks angry? Hmmm…
    Lamppost lynchings? Hmmm…
    Woodchippers? Ugghh…
    JHK provides the answer in this week’s post, but it would also require a national rising up, albeit a nonviolent one.
    Governments and dictators can be brought down completely nonviolently, without leaving the comfort of your mud hut, and JHK described how:

    perhaps a critical number of citizens stop forking over their quarterly taxes – since it would be the same thing as pounding sand down a rat-hole. Then, things really go south governance-wise.

    Do you actually believe the government should be brought down? I don’t. I just want priorities to go away from war and toward more welfare, more education, more health care, for the citizens, as the Constitution states.
    If you are angry enough and brave enough and organized enough for a National Tax Strike, you can request a change in priorities nonviolently on April 15 by not going to the post office, not filing, not paying for what you are all bitching about. By just staying at home.
    Or you can do like I do: reduce income to below taxable level so as not to pay for resource wars …or whatever you are upset about.
    But violence is not necessary. No one needs to get hurt for radical change to happen, not even the planet Earth. Focus on nonviolent communication, nonviolent relocalization and nonviolent no-till permaculture / horticultural efforts.
    JHK, please stop writing violent fantasy scenes on CFN. It might trigger someone to actually act out violently. I do not want anyone to suffer from violent acts. We’ve had enough of that in human history.
    I want all beings to be well and happy and free from strife.
    PS. Note to CFN: Stop procreating. Mother earth will thank you.

  59. Vlad Krandz July 16, 2012 at 2:14 pm #

    And look at the Union aspect: the police marched with the Leftist Scum in Madison who want to live high off the people. Public School Teachers, Firemen, Cops – all public unions, all tied into the Democratic Machine and all willing to sell out the American People for perks and benefits.

  60. Kyooshtik July 16, 2012 at 2:16 pm #

    As with vocal fry yesterday, it wasn’t until moments ago that I discovered via Google that up-talk has been noticed by others before me and already studied extensively.
    Check out this link.
    Combine in a young woman both vocal fry and up-talk and you have a person qualified for basically two jobs in this world: a folder of clothes at GAP and MacDonald’s counter person.
    …but wait, if that is so, how did that Nicole chick I mentioned earlier become an analyst at Piper Jaffray? OMG, what’s the world coming to?

  61. turkle July 16, 2012 at 2:19 pm #

    Yes, Wisconsin is a real hive of, uh, scum and villainy and such.

  62. anti soak July 16, 2012 at 2:20 pm #

    200,000$ a year for a LIFEGUARD in OC.
    A local told me ‘when I took classes at the JC 13 years ago, the school had 30 Admins. Now it has 110, at 100K+ a year each. In a decade or so, that kind of increase.

  63. anti soak July 16, 2012 at 2:31 pm #

    ‘The claim to me was that “they didn’t want to get involved.”
    I had a similar ‘thing’ last July when I helped police arrest black street thugs.
    The court wanted me to go to the hood and testify!
    I dont want to report crimes, after that.

  64. Doc Holliday July 16, 2012 at 2:38 pm #

    “We have met the enemy and he is us”
    And to paraphrase Kurt Vonnegut Jr. (RIP)
    Kurt thought that the founding fathers made a mistake on not placing income caps on Americans.
    That their mistake was to think that the place was so large and so full of free stuff for the taking (after you shot the present inhabitants)that no theif, no matter how greedy, could become more than a minor irrantant.
    So it goes.
    And lay off Jim out there.
    Maybe this is “Doom Porn” but like with any good porn, about all we can do is to watch.
    We already know how it ends.

  65. Gus44 July 16, 2012 at 2:39 pm #

    Action requires spunk.
    As well as awareness that you’re being screwed. People thing that this is normal. They’re used to thinking their “betters” deserve more than they do. Don’t want to anger the job creators.

  66. Gus44 July 16, 2012 at 2:42 pm #

    Illness isn’t spelled telepathy.

  67. mistified July 16, 2012 at 2:47 pm #

    “He’ll vote for Romney because he is the White guy. He’ll vote against his economic interests again and again.”
    Oh for fuck’s sake, how could voting for the white guy be against his economic interests? Our sitting President has screwed the economic pooch in just about every way imaginable. Our only possible way out of this disastrous situation is to kick Mr. Obama to the curb. The only shame is that we have to wait until November to do so.

  68. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 2:50 pm #

    “…how could voting for the white guy be against his economic interests?”
    Because we know with either Obama or Romney the wars are going to continue, wasting TRILLIONS of taxpayer dollars.
    Just vote for Dr. Jill Stein. The Green Party has nonviolence as one of its ten core values.

  69. Kyooshtik July 16, 2012 at 2:51 pm #

    no theif, no matter how greedy,
    i before e except after c or when sounded like a as in neighbor and weigh

  70. myrtlemay July 16, 2012 at 2:59 pm #

    ***Being pulled over for nothing makes white folks angry? Hmmm…***
    Technically, the cop had a right to pull my friend over for not using her directional to indicate changing lanes (I told her this). Also, they had a right to pull her for crossing over the white line on the road (that’s why they put that little white line there, ya know). The difference is my friend didn’t pull a “Rodney King” and get all confrontational. She merely politely inquired as to why the officer pulled her over. The “leaving the bar” incident was completely uncalled for. Why you chose to raise this as yet another racial smite no longer mystifies me. It simply is a matter of who you are.

  71. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 3:12 pm #

    i before e except after c or when sounded like a as in neighbor and weigh
    Q, I think you are going to have to forfeit your role as CFN grammarian.
    Or have you been taking too much codeine?
    Doesn’t your conscience ever bother you, giving out false rules of thumb?
    But then, you don’t believe you will ever be punished by any deity.
    Either you are not a native English speaker, or you are just feisty.
    I think you might be a foreigner who does not know English grammar.
    It is the height of arrogance you display that irritates.
    Your motive? What kind of heist are you running?
    Your “i before e except after c” rule is like a seismic shock to my system.
    Do you suffer from seizures that impair proper grammar?
    Of course, it is your sovereign right to demonstrate your surfeit of grammatical knowledge.
    But it seems weird that you continue to show your grammatical stupidity with rules of thumb that have so many exceptions as to be useless.

  72. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 3:17 pm #

    Why you chose to raise this as yet another racial smite no longer mystifies me. It simply is a matter of who you are.
    You are right. My bad.
    I just assumed your friend was Black, what with being hassled so much for minor infractions … or no infraction. It’s routine when driving while Black.
    I’m not taking the bait on your comment about me.

  73. myrtlemay July 16, 2012 at 3:26 pm #

    Can’t say as I blame you for that. Fact is though, whether you’re white or black, testifying against black thugs labels you in the black community as being anti-black. Go figure!
    In my little hamlet, the downtown is experiencing somewhat of a renaissance. During the Fourth of July celebration, a group of young men became belligerent when some cops asked them to break up their group after loitering around Jimmy Johns sometime after midnight. Long story short, they started a mini riot, upturning trash cans, tables, chairs, smashing car windows, etc. The cops asked Jimmy Johns to close for a while and proceeded to arrest the young men. I read in the paper the following day the names of the young men arrested: LaJavius Goodwin, Jamaal Winslow, Leroy Washington, among several others. Three guesses for ya to figure out their race!

  74. kulturcritic* July 16, 2012 at 3:49 pm #

    We are all too late, James. Enjoy KULTURCRITIC

  75. Kyooshtik July 16, 2012 at 4:08 pm #

    Q, I think you are going to have to forfeit your role
    From Wikipedia:
    A rule of thumb is a principle with broad application that is not intended to be strictly accurate or reliable for every situation.
    But you knew that.
    And I have said that on a recent prior occasion.
    You have come up with an impressive list of exceptions to the “i before e” rule. Now you should list the words where the rule does apply so folks can see how much more vast that list is. Start with the word thief. After all, there wouldn’t be an “i before e” rule of thumb if it wasn’t broadly applicable.
    Another case of Asoka being a slimy eel and contrary for contrary’s sake.

  76. Kyooshtik July 16, 2012 at 4:37 pm #

    LaJavius Goodwin, Jamaal Winslow, Leroy Washington, among several others. Three guesses for ya to figure out their race!
    Myrtle, you should be ashamed of yourself. Making assumptions about race or ethnicity based on the arrangement of letters in a person’s name is tantamount to racial profiling. These Chinese youths who were arrested might just as well have been Japanese or Korean or for that matter even African American for all we know ;0) – Q imitating Asoka

  77. bproman July 16, 2012 at 5:03 pm #

    I continue making my digital payments in hope that my claim for stolen goods will exceed the deductible portion of my contract. The cheque is in the mail.

  78. York Hunt July 16, 2012 at 5:14 pm #

    “Uptalk” …. it drives me crazy! …most generally spoken by young females and young men endowed with a touch of feminism. It sounds as if they are verbally rolling over on their backs in submission.

  79. Jam47 July 16, 2012 at 5:20 pm #

    If economic disaster is about to overtake us, and if its cause is oil-depletion, those of us who read “Cannibals and Kings” when it first came out never can say that we weren’t warned in good time. Here’s a quote from the last chapter:
    “As coal and oil become scarcer, their costs will go up. And since virtually every product and service in industrial society depends on large energetic inputs derived from those sources, inflation will steadily reduce the ability of the average person to pay for goods and services now regarded as essential for health and well-being.”
    “Cannibals and Kings” (Marvin Harris) was published 35 years ago.
    (Two of the better chapters, for controversialists: the chapter on pork prohibition among the Biblical Jews and the chapter on Aztec cannibalism.)

  80. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 5:21 pm #

    All the billionaires are giving to Romney.

  81. mistified July 16, 2012 at 5:26 pm #

    “All the billionaires are giving to Romney.”
    Good. I hope they all give at least a billion.

  82. mistified July 16, 2012 at 5:32 pm #

    “I don’t give a shit about the poor” …”
    Right, dickbreath. That’s why he gave over 7 million to charity over two years:
    Romney Tax Returns Show $7 Million in Donations Over 2 Years
    Story here:

  83. mistified July 16, 2012 at 5:35 pm #

    “Am I wrong on this?”
    Yes. More gas and oil have been found. The Bell curve has shifted. Peak oil? To be continued.

  84. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 5:35 pm #

    All Romney is also receiving money from foreign sources.
    That should also make you happy, not knowing what foreign governments are buying our elections, or what foreign interests are being served.
    Romney filed with the California Secretary of State as a “general partner” for Bain Capital Partners, a California Limited Partnership.
    Romney’s signature is on the document declaring that he certified “that the statements contained in this document are true and correct to my own knowledge. I declare that I am the person who is executing this instrument, which execution is my act and deed.”
    The resignation was filed June 17, 2003.
    Romney claims his business experience with Bain (destroying USA companies and outsourcing USA jobs) is relevant to his becoming president. I agree. I would not hire someone who lies under oath. It’s a character issue, and a trust issue.

  85. mistified July 16, 2012 at 5:41 pm #

    ” I would not hire someone who lies under oath. It’s a character issue, and a trust issue.”
    Really? Well you “hired” Obama and he is one of the all time liars.

  86. Kyooshtik July 16, 2012 at 5:49 pm #

    “Uptalk” …. it drives me crazy!
    Hey YourCunt, you don’t know nuthin’ ’bout being driven crazy by Uptalk unless you’ve spent a day in my head.
    I recall about a dozen years ago when it was beginning to sink in that there was this odd phenomenon of making declarative sentences sound like questions. It wasn’t until years later that I learned they had a name for it. Uptalk.
    At work my cubicle adjoined the cube of a co-worker, age 45 or so at the time, who had transferred to our NJ location from southern CA. I hear his phone ring and he picks up and says “This is John Watson?” I do a mental double take and say to myself “If you don’t know who the fuck you are how is your caller supposed to know?”
    That was when I formed the opinion that this weird phenomenon of speech originated in southern CA. I believe vocal fry (aka creaky voice) may also have originated there.

  87. mow July 16, 2012 at 5:56 pm #

    I heard that Corzine is hiding out at the top floor of the Bank of America building in Charlotte lmfao

  88. newworld July 16, 2012 at 6:00 pm #

    Why in this era of Obama are black males becoming more violent? Think Delfino Mora from Chicago who was beaten to death while his black attackers video recorded his death and uploaded it to Faceplant.
    Are young black males fit for an era of equality and tolerance? Does the thought of pandering to violence apologists make you feel nice?(Asoka)
    Will the psychologically damaged president BH Obama make a comment like he did when an overpaid Harvard Prof was inconvienienced?

  89. anti soak July 16, 2012 at 6:03 pm #

    Maybe, but Id guess they pay both sides!
    How about this, which was linked at Drudge:
    Zuckerberg’s Loan Gives New Meaning to the 1%
    By John Gittelsohn and Dakin Campbell – Jul 15, 2012 9:00 PM PT
    Billionaire Mark Zuckerberg is giving new meaning to the term “the one percent.”
    The Facebook Inc. (FB) founder refinanced a $5.95 million mortgage on his Palo Alto, California, home with a 30-year adjustable-rate loan starting at 1.05 percent, according to public records for the property.

  90. anti soak July 16, 2012 at 6:04 pm #


  91. BeantownBill July 16, 2012 at 6:09 pm #

    A Motie is a native of the planet which is in an asterism known as The Mote in God’s Eye.
    “The Mote in God’s Eye” is a science fiction novel written by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, an excellent SF writing duo.

  92. myrtlemay July 16, 2012 at 6:36 pm #

    We can thank California for “Valspeak”, a phenomenon referred to here as “upspeak”. I looked it up on Wikipedia (terribly borgeois, I know). I remember first hearing it in a movie called “Valley Girl” in the early 1980’s. At first I thought it was kind of cute, but after a while, it sort of grates on your nerves. To hear someone broadcasting news while using this intonation is nothing short of appalling. Edward R. Murrow would be turning in his grave!
    Speaking of annoying speech patterns among our newscasters, I find Scott Pelley EXTREMELY annoying. He comes across (at least to me) as a simpering fool; as in, “Thank you, Laura, soo much.” Also worthy of note is his phrase, “That got us to wondering….” Oh really, Scott? All of us tuning in are in a constant state of wondering what you and your staff are wondering! His idiotic smirk at the end of the show is what really gets me, as the news always likes to end on “happy” news. Bring back the newsmen like Cronkite who had some balls! Leave the “sissy boys” to the back room to do copy and such! Jeez! End of rant!

  93. BeantownBill July 16, 2012 at 6:47 pm #

    We have a population of 7 billion people, in a world that many think can only support 1 or 2 billion; our climate, whether human-caused or by nature, is warming to the point of multi-species extinction, and being a contrarian now means believing we’re entering an ice age; our oceans are turning acidic, our atmosphere contains high levels of pollutants; we’re in the beginning phase of world-wide nuclear weapons proliferation; our energy resource tank is running on low.
    And you’re more concerned about relations between those who have more melanin in their skins and those who have less, than any of the above issues.
    Why don’t you grow a brain, Doofus?

  94. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 6:48 pm #

    Bring back the newsmen like Cronkite who had some balls!
    Bring back Edward Murrow!
    You’ll remember him if you were around in the 1950’s … and not absorbed by sorority goings-on at an elite {white} ivy league women’s college in the 50’s.

  95. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 7:01 pm #

    Thanks for making my case, mistified. You are right. If you don’t like Obama, you definitely won’t like Romney. Romney care, Obama care, Obamney Care, etc.

  96. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 7:28 pm #

    Beantown, global warming can cause an ice age.
    If enough cold, fresh water coming from the melting polar ice caps and the melting glaciers of Greenland flows into the northern Atlantic, it will shut down the Gulf Stream, which keeps Europe and northeastern North America warm.
    The worst-case scenario would be a full-blown return of the last ice age — in a period as short as 2 to 3 years from its onset — and the mid-case scenario would be a period like the “little ice age” of a few centuries ago that disrupted worldwide weather patterns leading to extremely harsh winters, droughts, worldwide desertification, crop failures, and wars around the world.
    Global warming is here and is caused by human activity, in spite of Republican “contrarianism.”

  97. katnip kid July 16, 2012 at 7:32 pm #

    PO will do much more than take away some toys and luxuries. It will take away advanced health care, proper nutrition, advanced education, transit other than our feet or maybe a horse and cart, proper heating in winter, esp. for those not on in a rural place with access to wood or something to burn….need more be said?

  98. Kyooshtik July 16, 2012 at 7:45 pm #

    All the billionaires are giving to Romney.
    Perhaps this was intended for someone else. It certainly doesn’t relate to anything I wrote.
    BTW, the link brings up nothing but a black square with nothing in it…no rightward pointing triangle to start a film clip with.

  99. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 7:45 pm #

    katnip kid, realistically speaking, you can pretty much forget the horse and cart idea in a post-oil world. Horse owners can spend about $60 to $100 per month on hay, salt and supplements – and some spend much more, particularly if they feed grain.
    Maintaining your horse’s hooves adds even more to the cost of a horse. Whether or not you plan to shoe your horse, you’ll need to have a farrier check and trim his hooves every two months or so. This usually costs around $25 or $30. Add in shoeing, and you could pay $80 to $100 every two months. That’s a lot of bartering to do if you plan to exchange services in a post-oil world.
    Routine medical care is an additional cost of owning a horse and includes vaccinations, de-worming and annual teeth cleaning. For a healthy horse, this can cost as little as $300 a year. However, if your horse gets injured or ill, you could pay hundreds or even thousands for a one-time treatment. You’d probably just end up putting it down because in a post-oil world you will not have enough income or enough time to do enough bartering to maintain a horse.

  100. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 7:48 pm #

    Q., it works for me. You can also view it directly in YouTube at:
    I have to warn you it is X-rated, as it contains an indecent proposal from Sarah Silverman to Sheldon.

  101. Pucker July 16, 2012 at 8:33 pm #

    Notice how the value-system of gang members in Chicago (“get rich”) mirrors that of the leadership in the U.S.

  102. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 8:34 pm #

    Like a Screaming Eagle who has a Rendezvous With Destiny

  103. Widespreadpanic7 July 16, 2012 at 8:36 pm #

    Shit, more bad news from Jim. Is there any ever good news? Well, I’m drinking Naraganset, New Englands beer. Ya, there making it again, after a long hiatus. There’s some good news!
    Its a hot nite. I’m here, with my Winchester and tattered copy of ‘Visions of Cody’, waiting for the apocalypse. The Mets are on the radio. All is well! I’m out.

  104. shecky July 16, 2012 at 9:01 pm #

    Jesus, now you’re an expert on horses. How about you build an adobe barn and corral, feed your horse on wild grasses, use the poo for fertilizer (or sell it to Tripp) and eat the fucker when he is too broke down to ride or plow. He can lick my sweaty balls for salt. I’ll be barefoot, so will my horse. We’ll get by, then we’ll die. Same as it ever was.

  105. dgmoocher July 16, 2012 at 9:12 pm #

    It’ll be cool to see either way. Don’t count on a revolution I’m sorry to proffer, as Joe and jane lunch bucket are still happily scarfing down big macs and sticking it to the American public for their morbid obesity illnesses.
    As long as the American public is subject to the lowest quality education in the world, we will all be busy hiding in our homes from robbers and criminals (like my neighborhood where a customer from our store was violently murdered in an upscale-middle class block nearby), not commandeering our nation’s wealthy politicos.
    The Revolutionary War and government set up afterwards was in part catered to by American citizens who….dare I say it…read books and knew something of history; they spoke to each other in front of the fireplaces of our living rooms and formulated thoughts crafts and music. That is not the case here today in my opinion from blue-collar-land.
    If anything should occur, I am counting on your prediction for states to form cluster nations according to weather and immigrants.
    Love your blog.

  106. Jam47 July 16, 2012 at 9:19 pm #

    If you were ever to visit Toronto, Kyooshtik, the up-talk flood would drown you. Toronto up-talk seems to have attached itself mostly to the pre-middle aged female. Men appear to have greater resistance.
    A decade ago, at least, one of our newspaper columnists made the observation that up-talk originated among people who were uncertain of their opinions. An assertion therefore came out sounding like a question.
    Up-talk is a habit that people eventually grow out of.

  107. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 10:01 pm #

    Q., I am sorry you suffer so much because we are different and have different speech patterns. I enjoy both vocal fry and uptalk.
    I love it that human beings are all different and speak differently and invest our time differently.
    Variety is the spice of life.
    It’s even OK that we are all going to die, because we will all die differently, too. Life is so goddamn interesting.
    It is just a coincidence that all this is about to hit the fan at about the same time the Mayan Calendar is set to end, isn’t it? Just a coincidence.
    Only 157 days left to see if it is all just hype.

  108. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 10:03 pm #

    invest ^their^ time differently.

  109. Shakazulu July 16, 2012 at 10:09 pm #

    I was reading your post waiting for two specific references: NASCAR and Kardashians. Kardashians were mentioned, but not NASCAR. You did mention something MOPAR being driven, so that may qualify as fulfilling the NASCAR reference.
    If Corzine is smarter than he looks, he won’t be anywhere near a lamppost when the Treasury defaults and USD’s go to zero. The culling will begin soon and nothing, no nothing, can stop it. Population control is coming to YOUR neighborhood.
    As for NASCAR, watching it with someone dead is better than watching alone:
    “A woman said she kept the dead body of her companion in a chair in their southern Michigan house for months because she didn’t want to be alone. Linda Chase, 72, said she kept the remains of Charles Zigler clean and dressed and talked to the body while watching NASCAR on television.”
    I’m wondering if Nancy will let me borrow Ronny while I watch the Republican Convention next month? As Linda said about Charles, “He was the only guy who was ever nice to me.”

  110. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 10:12 pm #

    Mitt Romney says he was in charge of the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City … and it turns out Romney outsourced the production of Olympics torchbearer uniforms to Burma (now called Myanmar)
    If Romney becomes president, expect the whole country to be outsourced.
    Romney used the USA, got wealthy in the USA, then hid his cash in foreign countries to avoid paying taxes in the USA. Is that patriotic?

  111. Kyooshtik July 16, 2012 at 10:30 pm #

    Up-talk is a habit that people eventually grow out of.
    God, I hope so?

  112. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 10:35 pm #

    We’ll get by, then we’ll die.
    We’ll get by, then we’ll die.
    The more I read it, the more it seems it would make a good bumper sticker. I like it, Shecky. Thanks!
    We’ll get by, then we’ll die.
    We’ll get by, then we’ll die.

  113. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 10:38 pm #

    If you know someone who is unconsciously engaging in uptalk and wants to stop, here is a video that will help.
    Does Uptalk Make You Upchuck

  114. shecky July 16, 2012 at 10:39 pm #

    you are so welcome. Do you have a bumper?

  115. Kyooshtik July 16, 2012 at 10:42 pm #

    Q., I am sorry you suffer so much
    Oh, I am certain you endure great sorrow on my behalf.

  116. Kyooshtik July 16, 2012 at 10:49 pm #

    here is a video that will help.
    I posted that video earlier?

  117. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 10:55 pm #

    So you did, eh?

  118. Kyooshtik July 16, 2012 at 11:09 pm #

    I think I’ll come out with a line of T shirts:
    . Stamp Out UpTalk?
    . Fight Creaky Voice!
    . Vocal Fry Makes You Sound Like An Idiot!
    . Member: Citizens Against UpTalk
    . UpTalk Speakers Are Lousy Lovers!
    . Vocal Fry and UpTalk: Speech Crimes
    Help me out here folks. Come up with something really pithy.

  119. shecky July 16, 2012 at 11:13 pm #

    Pith on creaky uptalkers.

  120. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 11:19 pm #

    Ebonics, Yes! Uptalk, No?

  121. myrtlemay July 16, 2012 at 11:25 pm #

    He’s an expert on everything. Can you say Wikipedia? It’s his dirty little secret. Don’t tell, okay?

  122. Art Myatt July 16, 2012 at 11:30 pm #

    See “The Mote in God’s Eye,” a science fiction novel. You could read the original book, or you could get the definition from the synopsis in the Wikipedia article, or both.

  123. shecky July 16, 2012 at 11:41 pm #

    Motie. Like motorhead. Like De Fucking Troit. Jayzus.

  124. shecky July 16, 2012 at 11:42 pm #

    keep on googlin’! (thanx to the prescient ccr.)

  125. asoka.. July 16, 2012 at 11:53 pm #

    No, Myrtlemay, when it comes to uptalk I am an expert. I have information you will not find in Wikipedia. For example, uptalk came out of Valspeak, a pop cultural vernacular tied to the sprawling San Fernando Valley on the outskirts of Los Angeles.
    Myrtlemay, go to Wikipedia and see if it can give you the details I can, like when a new mall—the Sherman Oaks Galleria—opened in the Valley in 1980, local teenagers adopted it as an afternoon and weekend gathering place. Among the rituals and mores refined in this Southern California mall culture was a highly stylized pattern of speech. Alongside a notable uptalk—that is, ending a simple declaratory statement with a rising intonation—speakers also incorporated a variety of exaggerated slang interjections such as “fer sure,” “grody to the max,” “oh my god,” or the classic “gag me with a spoon.”
    Here is some more information you won’t find on the Web, through Google, or through Wikipedia, Myrtlemay: Among teens who gathered at the Galleria was fourteen-year-old Moon Unit Zappa, daughter of legendary musician and songwriter Frank Zappa. Moon took the kitschy, materialistic mall culture and wrote an anthem from the ostentatious teen speech mannerisms. “Valley Girls,” which Moon recorded with her father, appeared on the Frank Zappa album Ship Arriving Too Late to Save a Drowning Witch (1982), bringing Valley Talk, or Valspeak, to radio stations across the country. Embraced and ridiculed in equal measure, Valspeak nevertheless entered the cultural mainstream. Widespread appeal among youth pop culture would even grow as movies like 1982’s Fast Times at Ridgemont High (with Sean Penn as surf-slacker Jeff Spicoli) and 1983’s Valley Girls (with Nicholas Cage and Deborah Foreman) set themselves around the Valley and featured characters with strong local accents.
    Wikipedia doesn’t have this level of expert detail, does it Myrtlemay? Though Moon Zappa’s song tied this “dialect” to the San Fernando Valley, such speech patterns had already become recognizable throughout Southern California before the record was released. Indeed, Valspeak derives from and shares elements with other local language patterns, including the jargon of California surf culture (e.g., “tubular,” “bitchen”). “Pure” Valley Talk has become an iconic stereotype of the 1980s, a trying affectation of airheaded, teenage Valley Girls. Yet Valspeak still resonates with regional and national culture. Later movies, for example, 1995’s Clueless, have reprised the accent as representative of upscale California youth culture. Valspeak idioms like “awesome” and “totally” have permeated American speech practices, as has the ubiquitous placeholder “like.” On the Pacific Coast, the broader Southern California accent is still prevalent in the area, although the exaggerations of Valspeak have generally receded. At the same time, linguistic researchers at Stanford University have begun analyzing a so-called Northern California Vowel Shift. Reminiscent of Valspeak, the shifting vowel patterns are found among a variety of men and women of all age ranges. Fittingly, researchers are examining how this vowel shift practice has been successfully developed among teenage girls to negotiate their positions within social groups.
    Myrtlemay, Wikipedia is a poor source of information, anonymous, easily edited (I can edit Wikipedia to make it say whatever I want).
    Wikipedia cannot compete with an expert’s knowledge.
    Thank you for recognizing my expertise.

  126. shecky July 16, 2012 at 11:55 pm #

    This is why god hates california, but she still wants to live there?

  127. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 12:04 am #

    Fer sure, like, totally. California is a bitchen place for goddess energy?

  128. shecky July 17, 2012 at 12:06 am #

    bitchin’. the goddess fears the q-factor.

  129. Buck Stud July 17, 2012 at 12:08 am #

    It’s even OK that we are all going to die, because we will all die differently, too. Life is so goddamn interesting.

    Recently, I was exposed to a beautiful Taoist meditation. The in breath – inhale – represents death; the exhale,life. Especially notice that place in between the inhale/exhale known as Wuji – the “Source” – from which the Taijii separates into Yin and Yang, i.e., the inhale and exhale.
    Interestingly, the exhale – Life – is all about letting go. And from a physiological standpoint, I have always found the exhale to be far more challenging than the inhale. Literally, it can be a barometer of sorts to any number of issues that attach to and obscure our true core. And perhaps it also has something to do with carbon dioxide buildup as well.
    Because of the difficulty of the exhale and letting go, those beautiful moments when the breath unfurls itself like a long languid feline stretching itself on the Serengeti unimpeded are especially treasured. And the inhale following those long, deep,magnificent exhales, are usually effortless, like a billowing expansive movement from the ocean’s depths.
    And I have noticed one other interesting and paradoxical thing concerning the breath during meditation. The most gentle breaths that start out shallow and easy, usually end up being the most relaxed, deep and powerful by the end of a session of seated meditation. On the flip side, when my in breaths start out too enthusiastic, with out the corresponding match on the exhale, a certain type of energetic congestion occurs, or perhaps too much of a carbon dioxide buildup.
    So maybe there is some truth to a deep, satisfying and nourishing life being about the ability to let go.

  130. shecky July 17, 2012 at 12:10 am #

    Nice. Been to a similar place recently.

  131. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 12:15 am #

    Buck Stud, this reminds me of what Osho said in THE BOOK OF SECRETS (chapter 3)
    For Tantra, each outgoing breath is a death and each new breath is a rebirth. Breath coming in is rebirth; breath going out is death. The outgoing breath is synonymous with death; the incoming breath is synonymous with life. So with each breath you are dying and being reborn. The gap between the two is of a very short duration, but keen, sincere observation and attention will make you feel the gap. If you can feel the gap, Shiva says, the beneficence. Then nothing else is needed. You are blessed, you have known; the thing has happened.
    You are not to train the breath. Leave it just as it is. Why such a simple technique? It looks so simple. Such a simple technique to know the truth? To know the truth means to know that which is neither born nor dies, to know that eternal element which is always. You can know the breath going out, you can know the breath coming in, but you never know the gap between the two.

  132. Buck Stud July 17, 2012 at 12:25 am #

    Thanks for the Osho writing Asoka -he was truly a genius.
    It sounds contradictory based upon my last post on the breath, but I agree about not training the breath: to Let It Be is where is at. As so “simply” difficult so much of the time. Or at least for myself.

  133. Vlad Krandz July 17, 2012 at 12:41 am #

    You’re assuming the very thing (human brotherhood) that New World is questioning – thus an invalid argument. In fact, BECAUSE things are so bad, therefore competition for scare resources is about to get much worse. And if you want to be with us Whites, you had best adjust your attitude, doofus.

  134. Vlad Krandz July 17, 2012 at 12:49 am #

    You bet it is, Turk. And Teachers get a pass because they’re 90% female. Is what these people do really worth all those benefits? Not education, but indotrination. America will benefit immensely with the end of public education.

  135. Vlad Krandz July 17, 2012 at 12:52 am #

    That was Magisterial, Soak. By all means eschew Wikipedia – it’s controlled by Zionists.

  136. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 12:55 am #

    And Teachers get a pass because they’re 90% female.
    Wrong again, Vlad. The percentage of female teachers varies by grade level.
    For example, in elementary grades 81.7% are female.
    But in secondary schools, only 58% are female.
    SOURCE: BLS Current Population Survey, 2011.

  137. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 12:58 am #

    How do you know it is controlled by Zionists?
    What are their names?
    Would it be necessarily bad, if it were true?
    What have Zionists ever done to you personally? What is your personal experience with Zionists?
    I edit Wikipedia articles because Wikipedia is full of errors. I have never heard Wikipedia is controlled by Zionists. Where did you hear that? What is your evidence?

  138. anti soak July 17, 2012 at 1:02 am #

    Ebay / Paypal…Omar [I hear he sold them]

  139. anti soak July 17, 2012 at 1:04 am #

    You know soooo much about Zappa. I doubt you are black!

  140. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 1:06 am #

    One more thing, Vlad. Wikipedia says Zionism is not monolithic. There are different kinds: General Zionism, Religious Zionism, Labor Zionism, Revisionist Zionism, Green Zionism. Should I correct Wikipedia?
    Which kind of Zionism are you talking about?
    Or did you misuse the word Zionism? Are you really anti-Jewish, antisemitic, regardless of ideology?

  141. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 1:09 am #

    You mean all that is not in Wikipedia?

  142. anti soak July 17, 2012 at 1:09 am #

    A classic ‘I dont like the facts, Hence I will sling mud’ stance from BB.

  143. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 1:13 am #

    The real Zionists do not include Zuckerberg among the Zionists. They are pissed at Zuckerberg.

  144. Puzzler July 17, 2012 at 1:21 am #

    Asoka the Thief is still at it. I don’t come here often; won’t anyone call him out on his stealing?
    Asoka, you stole your long post about Valley Speak — stolen word for word from page 281 of the 2004 book The Pacific Region by Jan Goggans, Aaron DiFranco.
    So Asoka, stealing other’s words and pretending they’re your own makes you an expert?
    I am truly surprised that Kunstler, who makes a living writing, allows you stay on his site.
    You are a thief and should be ostracised by this community.

  145. Kyooshtik July 17, 2012 at 1:29 am #

    Recently, I was exposed to a beautiful Taoist meditation.
    By “exposed to” I assume you mean you were one of a half dozen students charged ten bucks (Thursday, 7:30PM sharp) by a swarthy eastern dude (like two weeks late on his strip mall rental nut), whose shtick was laying on a convincing rap about the benes of sitting still and thinking in a certain way about their breathing?
    I find that people with a grip on life, happy people, never give a moment’s thought to their breathing…but maybe that’s just me.

  146. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 1:30 am #

    So it wasn’t a copy/paste from Wikipedia? And I forgot to provide the citation? And Kunstler reads the comments?
    And, for your information, the word plagiarize does not mean “thief” … it means kidnap? I didn’t steal anything. I did not take the original and refuse to share it with anyone; that is what a thief does. I just borrowed it and shared it on CFN to make the point that the amount of information on Wikipedia is piss-poor compared to expert sources, from experts like Jan Goggans and Aaron DiFranco.
    Thanks for setting the record straight.
    I want you to continue to check all my posts for original sources, so I don’t have to cite them myself? It is a fun game we are playing, Puzzler?

  147. anti soak July 17, 2012 at 1:33 am #

    My post never said he was even Jooish, let alone Zionist!
    I agree with Mich Native and more recently Puzzler say about you.

  148. anti soak July 17, 2012 at 1:36 am #

    He [years ago] was called Mr Cut n Paste.
    Mich Native recently called him an ‘asswipe’
    Several have noticed his plagiary.
    I mostly ignore the posts of this ‘Black, lives in SA, knows all about Zappa’ guy or gal!!!!

  149. anti soak July 17, 2012 at 1:38 am #

    the book he mentioned a week or 2 or 3 ago is by B Frantzis, who I know well and lived with.
    BF is money hungry. Even 20 years ago he was getting 5000 for a weekend, if I recall properly.
    A friend saw Frantzis on YT and said his Tiajii form was so off center it was a joke.
    Me, I dont know or care.

  150. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 1:38 am #

    Q. you made a declarative statement and ended it with “…and thinking in a certain way about their breathing?”
    This makes you guilty of uptalk.

  151. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 1:42 am #

    “I mostly ignore the posts…”
    Then miraculously you respond even though you have not read the post?
    That is not what I suggested you do. I suggested you ignore the posts and not respond. It is more logically consistent. [1]
    — Mr. Plagiary
    1. Wikipedia

  152. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 2:05 am #

    knows all about Zappa’ guy
    anti soak how do you know I haven’t been a lifelong Zappa fan, an expert on Zappa, since the first time I heard him and thought that Zappa proved that “serious” music and rock & roll were not, after all, incompatible?
    How do you know that I was not listening to Zappa even before a copy of Freak Out!, (The Mothers’ LP) finally turned up in my local record store. It wouldn’t be accurate to say that hearing it changed my life; for one thing, it had none of the expected quotations, at least none that I could detect, except for some words on the cover attributed to Varese, but I liked the general racket, the gritty urban “talking protest” sound of “Trouble Every Day,” the parodic, ironic humor, the “weird” a cappella vocal ensembles, the improvisation, the (rather mild) sexual innuendo, the funny liner notes, all in all a heady mix, but also, quite obviously, a brainy one. And even in the disembodied form of recordings, Zappa exuded undeniable charisma. He was clearly someone worth following just to see what he would do next. So follow him I did, through his first dozen albums or so. And eventually, the exposure did change my life: although I was never “transformed, perhaps, in quite the way that Matt Groening claims to have
    And anti soak, you can’t get this level of detail about Zappa on Wikipedia, or on the Web, or using Google. Only from experts like myself.
    Puzzler, fetch!

  153. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 2:38 am #

    Wikipedia will not tell you that in 1963, shortly before moving for good to Los Angeles, Zappa presented a concert of his own music at St. Mary’s College in Claremont, with a program that included: Piece No. 2 of Visual Music for Jazz Ensemble and 16mm Visual Projector; Piano Pieces from Op. 5; Collage One for String Instruments; Opus for Piano, Tape Recorder, and Multiple Orchestra; Two Fragments of Prepared Tape for Op. 5
    Wikipedia will not provide that level of detail, nor will any Web page or search engine like Google. Only an expert on Zappa, or someone who actually attended the concert, would know that about Zappa.
    Puzzler! Fetch!

  154. noel bodie July 17, 2012 at 2:49 am #

    Man, it must be hot….forgot to get my weekly dose of “special K ” this morning. Crows are in the watermelon, is that a sign?

  155. Vlad Krandz July 17, 2012 at 3:10 am #

    I went to a Frantzis Seminar where they taught circular breathing with no gap. It seemed utterly alien to me since I naturally hold the breath in or out – as most people do I suppose.
    He may well be right that it is the best breathing for the martial arts or even for health. But I prefer the hatha yoga techniques in this area.
    Sometimes there seems to be a nectarean quality to the air or “behind” the air. It seems to bring the intuition of immortality – though hopefully not as we are now. No sane person wants that. Certain scents do this too – for me honeysuckle or the sea are two examples.
    Sometimes while hiking I’ve noticed a freshening in the air when I approach huge old trees. I have a theory that mature trees produce chi as well as oxygen in a way that bushes and young trees do not.

  156. Vlad Krandz July 17, 2012 at 3:14 am #

    He walks with a limp: he had a bad car accident years ago and never fully recovered. He says that it was only the Tai Chi and meditation that got him as far as he did.

  157. Vlad Krandz July 17, 2012 at 3:24 am #

    Yes I know there are some important differences but they all tend to support Israel and some degree of Jewish Supremacy. I know some individuals rise above this. But the mass do not.
    I mean if they didn’t think they were special, they would just be blended out of existence just as you want the White Race to be. Many are inter- marrying and the Trads are up in arm about it.

  158. Vlad Krandz July 17, 2012 at 3:41 am #

    Your knowledge of some aspects of White Culture is immense. Weird since you believe we are demons. You spend all your time with us demons since you have very litte to say to the average Black.
    I’ve met Blacks with this kind of niche before: they play the Magic Negro to certain White individuals or groups.

  159. bubbleheadMarc July 17, 2012 at 7:03 am #

    Marlin: Speaking of Kerouac his previously unpublished novel “The Sea is My Brother” is now out in print. I special ordered the hardback version from the publisher in England.

  160. bubbleheadMarc July 17, 2012 at 7:07 am #

    Marlin, speaking of Kerouac try the newly released “My Brother the Sea”.

  161. Widespreadpanic7 July 17, 2012 at 7:21 am #

    Thanks for the tip BBM. It seems strange to me that just yesterday, while tying up tomato plants, I began thinking about Kerouac’s service in the Merchant Marine during WW11. And now your post. I’d been reading ‘The Typewriter is Holy, a History of the Beat Generation’ by Bill Morgan, who lives in Vermont. Evidently the Sampas family, his wifes family, has all these manuscripts and they release them one by one. A few years ago it was ‘And the Hippos were Boiled in their Tanks’, which Kerouac wrote with Bill Burroughs. And before that it was ‘Atop an underwood’, which was of special interest to me because it was partially written down the street here in Farmington. Thanks again. I’ll be buying that book.
    It looks like ‘Cold Fusion’ might is stepping up for another go round as a viable energy source. Tonite at 9:00 PM there is a show about it on CNBC. And have you noticed oil is headed back up toward $90 per barrel?

  162. ozone July 17, 2012 at 8:53 am #

    MM and Shecky,
    Your wonderings now have conclusive answers! (It was a bit unfortunate that I had to delve into a posting to get a google reference, but here ’tis.)
    The Pacific Region
    By Jan Goggans, Aaron DiFranco
    Copy and pasted directly. Google expertise, nothing more…

  163. ozone July 17, 2012 at 8:56 am #

    Pardon my redundancy.

  164. ccm989 July 17, 2012 at 8:59 am #

    Violent revolutions are not the answer. Look at Egypt. Anything good happening there? Is throwing out one corrupt leader for the Muslim Brotherhood an actual improvement? Doesn’t seem like it. And here in the US people are too fat and lazy to think. Remember the Civil War where the sons of rich people paid poor people to join the Confederate Army in their stead. The rich also talked the poor into believing that the Union would take away their right to own slaves! Why the poor whites cared whether or not they could own slaves never seemed to cross their minds. The vast majority of poor whites couldn’t afford any slaves anyway. So to give your life so that the rich could keep slaves seems pretty stupid to me but the rich had a good bullshit line so the poor ignorant whites bought it — State’s rights. Just like today. Only the rich have a new way to broadcast their bullshit – FOX News.
    Convincing poor and working class whites that the socialist/terrorist/commie Muslim black guy will take away their guns! The irony is Obama has actually expanded “gun rights” but the ignorant haven’t heard about this because they are too busy stuffing Cheez Doodles in their faces while hypnotized by the boob tube.
    The only successful way to implement any kind of improvement is — wait for it – through the deep pockets of the US government. Manhattan Project, Hoover Dam, Soil Conservation, etc. Without the backing of the mighty federal government, good things don’t happen. Life without taxes sounds good until you realize that no taxes means no services – no firefighters, no school teachers, no police patrols, no military, no hospitals, schools, highways, etc. Basically you’d spend all your time fighting off formerly middle class stupes from trying to take your stuff, rape your wife and teenage daughter, kill you, etc. Civilization requires specialization and that only comes from having a government and paying taxes.
    Who do we have the best bet with in the upcoming election to keep civilization from total collapse? Keep in mind that Civil War analogy. It’s very telling.

  165. piltdownman July 17, 2012 at 9:21 am #

    Just because the issue was raised, I’ll add two more annoying vocal traits that are like, sooo annoying…
    So, one is the current tendency by people to start every other sentence with the word “so.” Listen for it.
    The other is the addition of the “sh” sound to words where that phoneme does not occur. For instance, “straight” becomes “shtraight.” I mostly her it from women, but men do it as well.
    Oh, and here’s a bonus one, which I thought was only from my neck of the words in Western PA, but may be more widely spread; the use of the word “whenever,” when “when” is actually correct.

  166. Solar Guy July 17, 2012 at 10:20 am #

    Speaking of 666 and empty suits, here, watch this, quite strange:

  167. mistified July 17, 2012 at 10:23 am #

    “Thanks for making my case, mistified. You are right. If you don’t like Obama, you definitely won’t like Romney. Romney care, Obama care, Obamney Care, etc.”
    Wrong again, numbnuts. Mr. Romney has stated that on his first day in office he would begin dismantling Obamacare. Any other lies you wish to share?

  168. mistified July 17, 2012 at 10:29 am #

    “That should also make you happy, not knowing what foreign governments are buying our elections, or what foreign interests are being served.”
    That would thrill me. I would welcome money from drug cartels, dictatorships or international criminals. As long as their contributions result in defeating Obama. He is that bad. He is dangerous. He is actively dismantling our nation and our traditions. And unfortunately, it will take three generations to undo the damage he has already inflicted.

  169. Kiwi July 17, 2012 at 10:49 am #

    There is no tyranny more insidious than that of a democratic system populated by ignorant citizens. That is why no solutions will ever come through the political process. Every intelligent vote is buried in the murk of 100 moronic ones. The voice of the informed barely rises to the level of background noise against the roar of the “majority”.
    It is also a fact that truth can never prevail over propaganda. I have seen these battles played out in smaller scale too many times. Every election is won by the candidate who most effectively uses propaganda against the ignorant mass of voters. They don’t even care what the informed voter thinks.
    A revolution would do no better. Most of the casualties would come from friendly fire. People killing people who are too ignorant to understand who their enemy is. The insuing chaos would open the door for yet another abusive scenario.

  170. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 11:09 am #

    Mr. Romney has stated that on his first day in office he would begin dismantling Obamacare.
    And you believe him? A president can undo legislation, poof! Just like that?

  171. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 11:12 am #

    He is actively dismantling our nation and our traditions.
    Romney wanted General Motors to go out of business.
    Obama rescued GM. As goes GM, so goes the nation.
    There are a lot of people employed right now, providing for their families, who will remember who wanted to allow their jobs to disappear and who fought for their jobs.

  172. Buck Stud July 17, 2012 at 11:30 am #

    I find that people with a grip on life, happy people, never give a moment’s thought to their breathing…but maybe that’s just me.

    Well Q, not everybody can be the happy and optimistic Clusterfuck Nation grammarian lurking in the back row with an error correcting magnifying glass.
    But who can argue against your happiness, especially after hearing your orgiastic eruptions with each frenetic page turn of the dictionary.

  173. Buck Stud July 17, 2012 at 12:03 pm #

    Interesting post, Vlad. For all your racial bantering, you often display a very rare and unusual sensitivity/awareness/observational acumen which is not repressed by macho bravado. It’s the part of you I really like.
    As far as the breath, it’s not a good idea not to make it too obvious, which is why the Chinese Internal Martial Arts do not make a big display of “ki ai”…because a good fighter will make a point of timing and hitting an opponent on the inhale – which is not a good thing.

  174. UnstopablefarceImmovableabject July 17, 2012 at 12:46 pm #

    Crazy Horse. Wow! Thanks for sizing up the candidates and this election battle the way you have here. Your words captured exactly my feelings about the fraudulent and absurd level of discourse between these campaigns as well as that coming from the average herd animal known as the American voter. The criminality couldn’t be more nakedly apparent, disseminated clearly by any number of outlets, yet still no meaningful recourse has occured, either institutionally or socially. WTF?
    I have to say that although I find JHK’s disposition on the sad state of our country’s political, social, and economic unfolding mostly correct, I just don’t think significant unrest or collapse is imminent. I beleive the citizens of the U.S. to be fully tame, not capable of organizing any semblance of meaningful rebellion, no matter how many guns or stowed provisions they posess, save a few lone vigilantes who will succeed at best in creating only minor havoc. I could be wrong.
    Even people who boast an acute level of understanding of the corruption and injustice, as well as the supposed origins of decay (based on their own ideological slants of course) do not similarly convey an ability to harness meaningful ideas to effect a better condition. Too much diversity of opinion and not enough diversity of thought. Seems we are a status quo of professional gripers, helpless to the point of only ever creating self-fullfilled prophecy.
    Thanks again

  175. UnstopablefarceImmovableabject July 17, 2012 at 1:08 pm #

    Hello, Asoka.
    I’m new here and am not taking sides in my interjection to your replies to Mistified, but let’s be clear that Obama, or our government’s decision to hand-out monies to failed businesses, to state it fairly, cannot be spun as a noble rescue of the American auto industry nor it’s laborers, as gallant or vile as such spin may sound to partisan-minded idiots. But in fact the government “rescue” of GM was part of the banking bailout fiasco as a whole — to characterize GM as simply an auto manufacturer is a toss to the type of simplistic blatherings from a Rush Limbaugh or Keith Olberman. No?

  176. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 1:18 pm #

    The battle over which empty suit gets elected president…
    This year we have the option of voting for a president and vice-president who both wear dresses.
    Don’t waste your vote on Obama or Romney to get more of the same. Vote for the Green Party.
    Vote Stein/Honkala 2012.

    In 2011, Cherie Honkala became the first woman to run for sheriff in Philadelphia and the first and only sheriff candidate in the country to run on a “no evictions” platform, pledging to help families in foreclosure stay in their homes.

    Cherie Honkala’s Wikipedia page
    The choice is not just between twiddle dum and twiddle dee.
    Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery; None but ourselves can free our minds.
    Stein for President 2012
    Honkala for President 2016

  177. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 1:22 pm #

    Hello, UnstopablefarceImmovableabject
    No spin is required.
    Romney opposed the bailout.
    Obama supported the bailout.
    GM employees are gainfully employed.

  178. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 1:40 pm #

    “This guy doesn’t understand how to create jobs. So there is no surprise — there should be because of that statement no surprise on why he failed so miserably over the last four years, in terms of job creation,” Sununu said on Fox.
    President Bush public sector job creation: +3.7%
    President Obama public sector job creation: -2.7%
    Obama is shrinking government employees and making the government smaller.
    If Romney is elected we’ll see government grow jobs again like Bush did.
    SOURCE: Bureau of Labor Statistics

  179. UnstopablefarceImmovableabject July 17, 2012 at 1:41 pm #

    Were Romney in the same position at the same time as Obama — Romney would have “rescued” GM, too. Any politician would have. GM is a leviathan bank, and had it collapsed the consequences would have been far beyond a spinable PR narrative. No? You take Romney at his word that he would have let GM – a massive bank- fail. Do you really? You don’t seem to take Romney at his word that he would “repeal and replace” a similarly constructed Obama labelled health care plan to his own, so why would you in the case of GM? There’s no genuine nuance to such an argument. Only spin. “Obamacare” wasn’t a socialization of America’s healthcare industry, it was a government mandate to buy private industry insurance.
    I’m just asking. These distinctions aren’t hard to parse, unless a person merely wishes to shill for a particular side.
    Thanks for responding.

  180. Vlad Krandz July 17, 2012 at 2:10 pm #

    Thanks Buck. I’m a much better mystic (receptive) than I am a yogi (making it happen). This doesn’t fit my self image very well, but it is the case. This distinction is made in Japanese Buddhism: self power and other power. Zen Buddhism focuses on self power but other power is also deeply respected. This blows people away who come to it from reading Watts, etc. Zen is a religion – as is Buddhism as a whole.
    This Sensitivity I have I applied to observing human beings – and realized how very different the races really are. No one who just observes without ideological interference can possibly believe that Blacks are like Whites – or on the same evolutionary level with them. The East Asians are quite different than Whites, but are on roughly the same level.
    I wouldn’t feel any hatred once this was acknowledged and the situation rectified by mass deportation – as Lincoln, Jefferson, et al intended. But as it is, it’s natural to feel hatred for your enemies who are threatening your Nation and way of Life. Remember, I also hate White Communists too.

  181. Desperado July 17, 2012 at 2:12 pm #

    Jesus seen near Wall St.
    Wants to see if bankers can fly.
    Quote as saying to the Money Changers:
    “Jump you Fuckers”
    Has a theme song too!

  182. Vlad Krandz July 17, 2012 at 2:13 pm #

    The NRA is convinced he fully intends to take our guns if he can – as the U.N Ban on small weapons mandates. Hillary is really gunning for this one.
    Fast and Furious was nothing else than an attempt to indict the gun industry that got away from them.

  183. mistified July 17, 2012 at 2:16 pm #

    “Romney wanted General Motors to go out of business.”
    He wanted no such thing. He wanted GM to reorganize under chapter 11. That would have ensured that bond holders investments would have been honored. Instead the taxpayers took it up the ass to the tune of tens of billions of dollars. And what did we get in return? The Volt, a car no one wants that is being subsidized by taxpayers to the tune of 200,000 per car. (Yep. Per. Car) And of course Obama benefitted by capturing Union votes.
    You are a douche-nozzled, lying weasel. (What a surprise!)

  184. mistified July 17, 2012 at 2:21 pm #

    Oh and additionally, pantsfill, Obama handed Chrysler over to the Italians. Thanks big “Oh”

  185. anti soak July 17, 2012 at 2:56 pm #

    I know more about him than his own students.
    He lived at the Rajneesh compound circa 1980-[82]
    Then he went to China. His resume has holes in it, intentionally.
    He admitted to me in a moment of candor he wasnt a good acupuncturist.

  186. Vlad Krandz July 17, 2012 at 2:59 pm #

    Quite true – that’s why the Founders hated Democracy so called and didn’t mention it in the Constitution. As a Republic, we were supposed to be a Goverment of Laws and as few of those as possible.
    And obviously strict limits on who votes.

  187. Vlad Krandz July 17, 2012 at 3:05 pm #

    The greatest generation was great in several qualities: humility and hard work. Guys like Ted Williams were Quietly proud of their Military Service – the baseball was just small potatoes next to that.
    But as thinkers? They gave it all away to the Globalists – and fought their brothers who were fighting for the West.
    It’s not that the Nazis were such Peacoks – it more that the US was so plain in its uniforms. Humility and egalitarianism again. Black Jack Pershing and McArthur were more typical of military men – and thus didn’t fit that well. But in any case, do you think any of these guys be they plain or peacock would fit in today? Would they have fought if they had really known what was to come or who they were fighting for?

  188. White Indian July 17, 2012 at 3:59 pm #

    And call no man your [BOSS/Patron] upon the earth. ~verse 9, chapter 13, The Jefferson Bible
    The Christfags of Murka took a piss on that advice.

  189. Kyooshtik July 17, 2012 at 4:29 pm #

    You are a douche-nozzled, lying weasel. (What a surprise!)
    Welcome back Tootsie!! There’s nothing like a refreshing insult.

  190. Kyooshtik July 17, 2012 at 4:51 pm #

    Buck Stud, this reminds me of what Osho said in THE BOOK OF SECRETS (chapter 3)
    It amazes me how you, Buck, Anti, Vlad et al fall under the spell of other people. Fall? I should say, throw yourselves! It strikes me as weakness, as insecurity…much like UpTalk.
    Breathing does not require quiet pondering anymore than does the operation of your endocrine system or your sweat glands. It, and they, are on autopilot. Grow up!

  191. Buck Stud July 17, 2012 at 4:55 pm #

    He didn’t “live” there; he simply attended some workshops etc. And it’s no secret that acupuncture is not his specialty; his specialty is Tui Na.
    It’s pretty obvious to me that you have an axe to grind, which is not surprising because, to be frank, Kumar is a rather brusque and controversial person at times. But your citing of your “friends” characterization of him being ‘off-center’ while doing Tai Chi is a joke, and a silly one at that.
    At any rate, you claimed to have lived with him twenty years ago which would have been Mill Valley as I don’t believe he had moved to Fairfax yet. And a man bringing down “5 grand a weekend” was hardly in need of a room mate ( besides he was married and with small children at the time) so I can only conclude you were the pool boy or the houseboy or perhaps the lawn boy or maybe the gardener?
    Or perhaps you were the hired maid?
    At any rate, does the below clip look like someone lacking a center?

  192. Kyooshtik July 17, 2012 at 5:02 pm #

    How do you know it is controlled by Zionists?
    What are their names?
    Ira Rosenberg, Hymie Hertzlebaum and the Estate of Sammy Davis Jr. :0)

  193. Kyooshtik July 17, 2012 at 5:10 pm #

    At any rate, does the below clip look like someone lacking a center?
    He looks like a guy I would like to have had my back in some of the places I used to shoot pool.

  194. anti soak July 17, 2012 at 5:17 pm #

    ‘Anti, Vlad et al fall under the spell of other people’
    Who, Pray [pun intended] Tell am I [or was I] under the spell of?
    And how much do you know about ‘them’?
    Oh, I forget, you had a relative with a Stupa, or was it ‘In A Stupor’, or both?

  195. insufferable July 17, 2012 at 5:23 pm #

    Dear empire
    I don’t live in wantaugh but do think your take on the middle-class sounds very bigoted. I happen to think the liberal gay Obama sucking MSNBC /CNN ZOMBIES Democrats are not worthy to breathe air. But hey, that’s just not politically correct. Don’t be a zomboid. Look in the mirror my friend. We are all in this mess together. What gives you the audacity to think you’re better than people who are middle class. You are an Idiot!

  196. insufferable July 17, 2012 at 5:28 pm #


  197. Kyooshtik July 17, 2012 at 5:32 pm #

    I went to a Frantzis Seminar where they taught circular breathing
    Are you sure it was circular breathing not circular jerking? :0)

  198. insufferable July 17, 2012 at 5:37 pm #

    Hey Fizzle
    I smell a jealous little piggy complaining about Italians and Jews who have more that you. You are the bigoted negative individual who is crying like a spoiled baby about not keeping up with the Jones (or sal or Alan) you are also disgusting in your ranting about people who “don’t give u your due “. Shame on you.!

  199. Kyooshtik July 17, 2012 at 6:57 pm #

    and the Trads are up in arm about it.
    That’s singular. Each Trad gets one weapon.

  200. BeantownBill July 17, 2012 at 6:59 pm #

    You are so wrong, Q! Hymie Hertzlebaum never had anything to do with it. As a matter of fact, unknown to you, since you obviously don’t do adequate research, Hymie is currently retired and leading a quiet life rescuing Jewish polar bears in the arctic. He has a beautiful 3-level igloo with a nice view of the ice. His only problem is that he can’t get melting insurance, and his front yard is rapidly disappearing.

  201. BeantownBill July 17, 2012 at 7:05 pm #

    I admit I’m up in arm about Jewish intermarriage, too, but since it’s my right arm that’s up and I’m a lefty, it’s not a big deal.

  202. BeantownBill July 17, 2012 at 7:09 pm #

    I never heard the term “trad” before. Is it significant that trad rhymes with Vlad?

  203. Kyooshtik July 17, 2012 at 7:21 pm #

    Who do we have the best bet with in the upcoming election to keep civilization from total collapse?
    I don’t know…Who?

  204. BeantownBill July 17, 2012 at 7:22 pm #

    Hey, Marlin, you made my day! Narragansett Beer is back? Really? Hi, neighbor, have a ‘gansett. Straight from the barrel taste, the taste that people who really know beer like best.
    Do you remember the little cartoon ads they ran between innings on TV during Red Sox games?
    Thanks for the info on CNBC re cold fusion. It’s repeating at 11 pm or so, and I’m DVRing it. I’ll watch it tomorrow.

  205. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 7:22 pm #

    blah blah blah
    Unfortunately for you, Mitt Romney was alive in 2008, and he let his views be known:
    Romney wrote: Let Detroit Go Bankrupt
    That was the headline on a New York Times opinion piece Mitt Romney wrote in late 2008, arguing against a USA taxpayer bailout of America’s auto industry.

  206. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 7:26 pm #

    You don’t seem to take Romney at his word that he would “repeal and replace”
    No, I don’t, since a USA president does not have the authority to unilaterally overturn legislation that has been passed by Congress and held to be legal by the United States Supreme Court.
    “Repeal and replace” is pablum.

  207. xport July 17, 2012 at 7:40 pm #

    I have enjoyed most of your posts, now that you admit that you are a long time Zappatista, I have greater respect for you. The coming election will prove to be an all out media brawl, with the Supreme court ruling on Citizens United allowing unlimited funds to be pumped into the blitz on every waking hour of the electorates consciousness. Frank would have had a field day with the absurdity of it all. It may prove to be a true turning point, a Rising indeed.

  208. balkan July 17, 2012 at 7:44 pm #

    Americans are so divided and not only by the socio-economic class. With small minority exception, which is fully aware of sad state, it is the land of countless little groups, passionate with their “beliefs” and “truths”, and (still) Party affiliation, played by the Power Elite with ease.
    Other than few skirmishes by desperate here and there there will be no revolution which requires cohesive idea and force.
    In FEMA camps capos will entertain themselves by orchestrating UFC-style fights between
    Dem’s and Repub’s.

  209. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 7:56 pm #

    Thank you, xport. I have also enjoyed your posts.
    I am kinda surprised to find other Zappatistas here.
    Here is my theory of what is going to happen: Romney will go down because he refuses to release his tax returns.
    He refuses to release his tax returns because he was hit hard by the crisis of 2008 and lost so much money that he did not owe any taxes in 2009.
    But he cannot release that he paid ZERO TAXES since that would be political suicide.
    Either way Romney is toast.
    Yes, I think Frank would have been enjoying this 2012 show.
    Did you happen to see “Toads of the Short Forest” (Part lI), from a concert in 1968?
    The 2012 political circus reminds me of that Zappa performance. As captured on the recording, this piece begins in 5/8; then the players fan out. Having assembled an intricately polyrhythmic (or at least polymetric) texture with a screeching saxophone solo laid atop it all, Zappa cues the ensemble to lower the volume and turns to the audience:
    At this very moment on stage, we have:
    drummer A playing in 7/8;
    drummer B playing in 3/4;
    the bass playing in 3/4;
    the organ playing in 5 / 8;
    the tambourine playing in 3 / 4;
    and the alto sax blowing his nose.
    LOL! ¡Qué viva Zappa!

  210. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 8:02 pm #

    I love these light-hearted exchanges on CFN.
    Both you and Q have an exquisite sense of humor.
    Thank you both for your levity!

  211. Angie July 17, 2012 at 8:05 pm #

    So low brow it hurts. So the cleverdicks need not dismantle.

  212. xport July 17, 2012 at 8:06 pm #

    I see a recent editorial in the NYT, saying that this election will be a referendum on the current state of capitalism. Wow! fat chance that discussion will ever take place. It has always been a rich man’s fantasy. Now that reality is setting in, who will reset the new narrative?

  213. Kyooshtik July 17, 2012 at 8:15 pm #

    So, one is the current tendency by people to start every other sentence with the word “so.” Listen for it.
    The other is the of the “sh” sound to words where that phoneme does not occur. For instance, “straight” becomes “shtraight.” I mostly her it from women, but men do it as well.
    Boy oh boy Piltdown, are we ever on the same page. Yes, I have noticed the use of “So” to begin a sentence where, in my mind, it makes no sense whatsoever. In similar fashion I hear certain people use the word “sure.” I want to take these people by the lapels, shake them violently, and find out where this “So” shit and “Sure” shit began and what it means.
    And you are absolutely correct about the sh sound. I observe that it is used primarily with words whose first 3 letters are str as in shtraight, shtrong, and shtrategize. It seems to be an emphasizer – “And LeBron goes shtrong to the hoop.” “The Obama team shtrategized over the weekend.” Yet, I doubt you would ever hear of a violinist playing his Shtradivarius.
    My only difference with you on this is that I hear it mainly from men. Without the insertion of an h between s and tr certain words sound decidedly feminine and week. This simply will not do when an announcer says “strong.”

  214. Zed Leppt In July 17, 2012 at 8:31 pm #

    So Kunstler is again expressing his revolutionary revenge fantasies of good citizens rising up to hang the bankers from lampposts. Not likely, I agree with the previous posters who predict the masses turning on each other. A version of this scenario is played out in a film that came out last year called “God Bless America”, written and directed by comic Bobcat Goldthwait. Joel Murray plays a dejected office drone who’s fed up with the crass, stupid people he’s surrounded by and daydreams of blowing away his idiotic neighbors and coworkers. One particularly obnoxious young woman on a TV reality show finally pushes him over the edge and he goes on a murderous Travis Bickle-like revenge spree, killing all those people he blames for the cretinization of America. I have to admit to having similar fantasies and so too, I suspect, do quite a few visitors to this blog. There are elements of “Natural Born Killers” and “Falling Down” in this film but it uses comedy to soften the shocking aspect of the subject matter, which may not be so shocking to audiences today.
    As crude a way of making social commentary as this is, there is a definite visceral feeling of righteous glory in these fables. Trouble is, we are probably all on someone else’s fantasy death list and if TSHTF, it’ll be bikers vs soccer moms vs goths vs rednecks vs treehuggers vs punks vs hiphoppers…just the rabble thinning itself out as everyone with an axe to grind makes hay out of the pettiest of their personal gripes.
    Here’s a clip with the protoganist’s rant against modern culture – sounds like a JHK essay.

  215. Kyooshtik July 17, 2012 at 8:32 pm #

    Speaking of 666 and empty suits, here, watch this, quite strange:
    I will leave it to others to explain its meaning.

  216. Zed Leppt In July 17, 2012 at 8:55 pm #

    Speaking of cretinizing cultural influences, the recent cover of Time magazine that diplayed a slim, pretty young mother breast feeding her three year old son with the caption “Are You Mom Enough?” has inspired a new reality TV show about “extreme parenting”. The producer who created the softcore kiddie porn show “Dance Moms” is working on this. No demand for serious investigative journalism on TV anymore, but a toddler with a tit in his mouth, hey, that could be a hit show!

  217. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 9:05 pm #

    Solar Guy, this video is a commentary on nondualism.
    If you notice in the film’s credits, thanks are given to Wayne Liquorman, a proponent of advaita.
    Thanks for sharing this, Solar Guy.

  218. muddmike July 17, 2012 at 9:06 pm #

    Merikans will never have a French revolution style uprising. The French peasants lived within walking distance of the rich and worked in their homes. In the US the rich live in gated communities and are known only to a few. They can hire special forces trained mercenaries to protect them. Few people would recognize most CEOs.
    Also, the “liberal” media has supplied the masses with many “others” to hate. People of other races, religions, sexual orientations, etc. Even Aimlow Joe has fallen for the hatred of guvmint workers with their plush jobs and reasonable pensions, ignoring that they don’t get SS unless they worked in the private sector, so the pensions need to be enough to live on.
    Also, union and nonunion workers have been turned against each other.
    The richy riches have covered their asses and the 99% will tear each other apart why the 0.1% are flying off to their private islands. Maybe a few “little rich” (those with $2 million homes might get it), but not the real perpetrators of this disaster.
    So don’t expect an uprising against the 0.1% JHK.
    Sorry, it would probably be fun and they deserve it, but it ain’t gonna happen here.

  219. Zed Leppt In July 17, 2012 at 9:21 pm #

    “I have noticed the use of “So” to begin a sentence…”
    Oh dude, I’m like, ya know, so sorry ’bout that man.

  220. xport July 17, 2012 at 9:30 pm #

    On a positive note, there was an international convention dedicated to advancing railroad travel and improvement this past week in Phila. Pa. Amtrak announced plans to improve service on the Northeast corridor and implement high speed lines linking major cities from DC to Boston.

  221. Jam47 July 17, 2012 at 9:41 pm #

    As the readers of this site know, oil that’s pumped out of the ground in the Middle East is useless to oil-consumers in Europe and North America until it’s conveyed to Europe and to here. The oil is conveyed in tankers, many of them passing through the Strait of Hormuz. This fact is also known to Kunstler’s readers. So why is no one commenting on the strong possibility of the Strait’s imminent closure? Like by the end of this year.
    Assad falls; Hezbollah’s land connection to Iran is cut; Israel attacks Hezbollah, now rendered vulnerable. Matters escalate and complicate to the point where Iran carries out its threat and closes the Strait.
    It could be that the Iranian threat is nought but bluff. But only the Iranians themselves know this.
    Lots of you comment-writers are more geo-politically savvy than I am (no great achievement). Maybe one of you might care to confirm or refute my prognosis.

  222. rocco July 17, 2012 at 9:41 pm #

    Zed Leppt In, AND muddmike are correct! The top dogs have split us working folks into fighting groups. Daily our right wing radio Rush want to be types blame college educated science folks, evolution,gay tree huggers for the failures of the top 1%. The small left wing group blames the folks living in the burbs or who drive a truck, own a gun or drink Old Utica Club beer( yes still around). We have been distracted to attack each other while the true leaders of this mess sit back and laugh away. So, any of u fellow posters, remember what that old fat Greek guy said,”The most feared and persecuted people in the world are those that ask questions” But, hey I am enjoying this non climate change heat wave! Go Fox News!

  223. Jam47 July 17, 2012 at 10:20 pm #

    Maybe you know Truman Capote’s remark on Kerouack’s writing: “That’s not writing; that’s typing.” Capote was talking as a self-conscious stylist. And what a stylist he was.
    Never read anything by the Beats. Interesting bunch. But since they were proto-hippies they probably helped, inadervtently, to lead a lot of people over the edge of a cliff.

  224. asoka.. July 17, 2012 at 11:39 pm #

    Contrary to JHK’s violent fantasies, revolution does not require bloodshed.
    Between 1987 and 1991, hundreds of thousands of Estonians gathered publicly to sing forbidden patriotic songs and share protest speeches, risking their lives to proclaim their desire for independence. While violence and bloodshed was the unfortunate end result in other occupied nations of the USSR, the revolutionary songs of the Estonians anchored their struggle for freedom, which was ultimately accomplished without the loss of a single life.

  225. Vlad Krandz July 17, 2012 at 11:44 pm #

    Their other arm is in a cast and they beat your brain out with it.
    Your nature is so small – it must be a torment for your brain to have to transmit such paltry thoughts. If you’re not careful, someday it will crawl out and leave. What else is a headache but the brain trying to get out?

  226. Vlad Krandz July 17, 2012 at 11:49 pm #

    What next? Shaeffer? Remember the the Shaeffer jingle? And the Cydesdales! Where they Shaeffer or some other bear?

  227. Vlad Krandz July 17, 2012 at 11:55 pm #

    Discriminate betwee Unions and Public Unions. The latter is problematic since stuggling people have to pay for these people to live high off the hog. And for what? Teachers – spinster Communists programing kids to be goverment slaves. Cops? Some good, some bad – all serving the Masters. Firemena? Good, but we can’t afford those pensions. Simple as that.

  228. San Jose Mom 51 July 18, 2012 at 12:08 am #

    I thought of you today as I took a mini-van full of my daughter’s friends to the beach. You would have jumped out of the car with all the “likes.”
    We drove on Highway 17 over the Santa Cruz Mountains (a ride that would make anyone from Kansas hold onto the dashboard for dear life) and down to the beach in Capitola.
    I heard the word “like” at least 1,000 times..with Lady GaGa and Britney Spears tunes blasting from the CD player.

  229. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 12:34 am #

    Wikipedia says of Shirley MacLaine:

    She got to play a substantial female role as the fairy godmother in “Cinderella.” While warming up backstage, she broke her ankle, but proceeded to dance the role all the way through.

    All those who believe it is possible to perform ballet with a broken ankle, raise your hands.
    Is this not an error in Wikipedia? Should I go ahead and correct this error, as I do so many others? Is anyone else skeptical about dancing ballet with a broken ankle?
    The Wikipedia article says “broken ankle,” not fractured, not sprained, “broken.” Is this believable? No one else has come forward to correct this. Is this Shirley MacLaine hagiography?
    Wikipedia is full of this kind of false information. Dancing on a broken ankle?

  230. Vlad Krandz July 18, 2012 at 12:45 am #

    Sheriff Joe bring Barry Soetero to justice: the birth certificate is a fraud. He’s not the President.

  231. Vlad Krandz July 18, 2012 at 12:48 am #

    Maybe the Russians and Iranians wont let Syria fall….

  232. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 12:57 am #

    Both Arpaio and Zullo also said that they are not stating that Barack Obama knows of the forgery.
    Arpaio has obviously been duped. Obama was birthed and immediately proceeded to forge his birth certificate, even before the umbilical cord was cut, because he knew he was going to be president and deliberately wanted to fool everyone.
    What concerns me is whether Arpaio was born in America. What kind of name is Arpaio anyway? He is probably acting illegally as sheriff and has not shown his birth certificate, which he probably forged anyway.

  233. anti soak July 18, 2012 at 1:24 am #

    He was 3, I checked. Mama was breast fed till 6!. Time/Newsweek are junk with covers like
    ‘How Ray-sist is yr Baby’.

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  235. anti soak July 18, 2012 at 3:21 am #

    would you please leave us alone?

  236. Vlad Krandz July 18, 2012 at 4:11 am #

    New book out about the Black race riots called White Girl Bleed Alot – the actual words of one of the subhuman rioters.

  237. ovplomt509 July 18, 2012 at 4:21 am #

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  238. Widespreadpanic7 July 18, 2012 at 7:38 am #

    BeanTownBill, here’s what I have to say to you:
    “Hi neighbor, have a ‘Gansett”!
    And I might add … “enjoy that straight from the barrel taste”.
    Narragansett is no longer brewed in Cranston (brewery was demolished after sitting vacant for 20 years, now the site of a strip mall) … currently it is made in Rochester, NY by the Genesee Brewing Company (remember Genesee Cream Ale?)
    The Braves were before my time. But I remember Narragansett Beer as the great sponsor of the Red Sox, and in that magic 67 season … and all the fathers and grandfathers in the neighborhood sitting around this barn we had, listening to Kenny Coleman’s Red Sox radio broadcast, drinking those tall white cans of Narragansett beer, along with some Ballentines. All of them had been overseas in WW2 or Korea and I used to love listening to their stories.
    Bill, I’m no expert, but the beer itself is pretty good. But its a crowded market now, not like the in the 50’s or 60’s. Back then Narragansett was the best selling beer in New England.

  239. qonvtlpy36 July 18, 2012 at 8:15 am #

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  240. muddmike July 18, 2012 at 8:24 am #

    The pensions are a problem now because politicians had wildly optimistic ideas about how the investments would grow, so not enough money was set aside years ago.
    As I said before, public workers don’t pay SS, since it is stupid for the government to pay itself. Therefore the public workers have to live on ONLY their pensions.
    Looking at my 403b account (I work in higher ed)I could not live decently when I retire on it alone, even though I have paid in more than the minimum for the last 30 years. I will need the SS supplement.
    Public unions negotiated fair pensions, but the pols blew it on the investment end. Now we need to make up for their stupidity. A slightly higher investment would have meant either fewer services or slightly higher taxes, but Murikans want it all now, so the pols gave it to them and now we have to pay.

  241. charliefoxtrot July 18, 2012 at 8:29 am #

    …fwiw, lionel ritchie was dancing on the ceiling- i know because i saw it ‘on the teevee’…now if he d had a broken ankle at the time, i doubt he coulda made it half way up the wall- you know, where you drive us with your constant wikiposts…

  242. charliefoxtrot July 18, 2012 at 8:50 am #

    anyone here still watch M$M, and if so has there been any mention of the LIBOR mess as it relates to oil prices? i saw one article over at info.info (sic) which said there have been at least a couple of rumbles in the last few years, concerning how the two mechanisms of price- fixing arew similar, and subject to illicit meddling…of course, govt & industry shills have poo-pooed the idea, claiming that there is no reason the entities responsible would do so; they are not in the investment arms of the clearing houses, or some such tripe…personally, i ve always wondered why the price of oil isn t set by “cost, plus”- some negotiated (by govt, NOT industry- an opaque difference, i know!) percentage of profit on top of whatever costs are accrued by whatever method & location are involved…sounds socialistic, i am aware, but if you think about it- since oil is a commodity everyone uses to one degree or another, like air or water- wouldn t we all be better off with a stable, predictable price-line to count on for all of the goods and services we ve become used to, rather than (99% of us, anyway) having to choose and sacrifice between, say, gas or food? for example, in order to go to work yesterday, i had a fucking mustard sandwich for lunch because i required $20 in gas to drive the hour and back…just sayin’- and yes, this time i AM bitter…

  243. ozone July 18, 2012 at 9:28 am #

    Q keeps attuned to M$M out of the corner of his eye, so he’d be the one to ask about commodities price-fixing reports (or lack thereof).
    Here’s a bit from “Fierce Finance” from one Jim Kim about an obvious gathering avalanche that I [stupidly] hadn’t considered:
    “Disgusting,” writes Richard Bove to a client, as quoted by the Philly Inquirer.
    “If the rate is false, all of the charges associated with Libor-based loans are wrong … tens of thousands of businesses are paying the wrong rate on their loans … all of the bank stock [prices] are wrong.”
    Some suits are in the making. One Philly government officials was quoted as saying, “I think we are in line to collect from Libor settlements to come.”
    Forget about prosecutions for political profit. This is where the piper is to be paid. The courts are about to be crammed with demands for restitution from hordes of private parties. The colluding rate-fixing banks haven’t the reserves to cover these whackings, even at pennies on the dollar. And this occurring in the most litigious society in the world!
    Sit tight and muddle through, Charlie, things are about to get very interesting in Finance-land.
    (Maybe leading to a peek into other shenanigans of price fixing. Funny how these things grow and spread. I would suspect that’s why “containment” and “scapegoat” will become commonly voiced around the boardroom tables in coming days and weeks.)

  244. ozone July 18, 2012 at 9:36 am #

    …And don’t ever forget, you have actual skills, these meatheads who supposedly run every-fucking-thing only know how to scam and steal. Take a guess which occupation will be in demand in the future.

  245. Pucker July 18, 2012 at 9:46 am #

    “Take a guess which occupation will be in demand in the future. ”
    Many years ago, I asked an American kid what he wants to be when he grows up?
    He replied: “I want to be a Bad Motherfucker.”
    I don’t know if he ever succeeded in his career goal.

  246. PRD July 18, 2012 at 9:51 am #

    Sounds like what JHK pines for is taking place in Damascus, as the usual characters conduct their weekly pissing match here on my computer screen.

  247. hookahchina July 18, 2012 at 10:55 am #

    thanks for you post,it is very cool

  248. Vlad Krandz July 18, 2012 at 12:25 pm #

    Obama’s birth certificate definitely fraudulent – that’s why he didn’t want to produce it.

  249. Kyooshtik July 18, 2012 at 12:26 pm #

    Politician from a southern state grilling Bernanke this morning:
    Izzir inny kahnduv uh comp ruh mahz…etc etc
    Kyoo translation:
    Is there any kind of a compromise…
    I only have to hang on 13 years or so without losing my mind. Can I make it?

  250. Vlad Krandz July 18, 2012 at 12:32 pm #

    Yes, now we pay for all the aid to Africa. All the aid to Egypt and Israel. The endless meddling all over the world. The trillions paid to Black America – several Marshall Plans. But Blacks aren’t Germans and it’s like pouring it into a Black Hole.
    We cannot fund the lifestyle you desire. You were lied to and you should have realized that decades ago. You’re going to have to adjust just like the rest of us. As for “Higher Education” – please. Public Education was a vast Conspiracy to corrupt the minds of young Americans. See John Dewey and Rockerfella. Literacy was 90%+ in post Revolutionary War New England – long before this monstrosity was dreamed up. What is it now with the “benefit” of professionals?
    Not all the blame is your’s – the racial quality of Americans has gone down precipitously. You can’t educate the uneducable.

  251. Vlad Krandz July 18, 2012 at 12:36 pm #

    New Batman movie villian called Bain. Coincidence? Well the character was created/named in 1993. But released right now – coincidence?
    O Nanak! This world is corrupt from a to z. Turn within and let it go its way.

  252. Kyooshtik July 18, 2012 at 12:51 pm #

    personally, i ve always wondered why the price of oil isn t set by “cost, plus”- some negotiated (by govt, NOT industry- an opaque difference, i know!)…..profit
    Get real Chuck. It seems that every generation has to learn anew that government attempts to fix prices simply DON’T WORK. Black markets will emerge instantly.
    BTW, my spell checker is very annoyed with your failure to use apostrophes when writing contractions. The spell checker says to me “please tell your correspondent to stop this juvenile practice.”

  253. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 12:57 pm #

    O Nanak! This world is corrupt from a to z. Turn within and let it go its way.
    Probably the best advice I’ve read here this week.
    Kirpal and Ajaib must be cheering from their graves.

  254. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 1:04 pm #

    My brother says the maximum he can contribute to his traditional and Roth IRAs is $6,000 (he’s over age 50) because that’s what the IRS says is legal.
    How did Romney legally accumulate a $22 million IRA?
    Or did Romney do something illegal?

  255. mistified July 18, 2012 at 1:06 pm #

    “That was the headline on a New York Times opinion piece Mitt Romney wrote in late 2008, arguing against a USA taxpayer bailout of America’s auto industry.”
    Yes, genius. He did NOT want a taxpayer bailout. He wanted the normal, private sector solution. The troubled companies would file for chapter 11 status. That would enable them the time to reorganize their operations, renegotiate union contracts, and reconfigure terms with their creditors. And do so…WAIT FOR IT…without shoving it down the throats of taxpayers via government intervention.
    Many of the investors who rolled the dice on GM stock would have lost money. That, while unfortunate, is a risk ANY investor takes, when purchasing a stock in a listed company. But here is the upshot, if my neighbor makes a mistake in his stock pick, it costs me nothing. His loss is incurred privately. When the government rushes in and “saves” a failing company, it affects taxpayers, many whom would want nothing to do with investing in the company the government is choosing to “save”.
    Get the difference, pants-load? No, you don’t. Because you sir, are a moronic leech.

  256. mistified July 18, 2012 at 1:08 pm #

    “Don’t waste your vote on Obama or Romney to get more of the same. Vote for the Green Party.”
    Oh no, idiot. I’ll waste it on your recommendation. On a candidate that does not have a chance in hell of winning. Yeah, baby, that would be a really wise move.

  257. Jam47 July 18, 2012 at 1:09 pm #

    While we’re on the topic of speech as a public nuisance, how about the nuisance value of the “within quotes” signal? The arms are raised and the index and middle fingers of both hands make a couple of quick hooking movements. The words just uttered are thereby enclosed within quotation marks.It’s a useful gesture, I suppose. But it lacks grace.

  258. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 1:14 pm #

    government attempts to fix prices simply DON’T WORK. Black markets will emerge instantly.
    Yeah, Q., so the obvious answer is not price fixing; the answer is rationing. Government can ration and that avoids evasion and black markets.
    If you have a coupon entitling you to buy a fixed quantity of the controlled good, then producers no longer find it easy to divert supplies to the black market since they must have ration tickets to match their production; distributors no longer have as much incentive to accept bribes or demand tie-in purchases; and consumers have a smaller incentive to pay high prices because they are assured a minimum amount.
    Rationing, as Forrest Capie and Geoffrey Wood (2002) pointed out, increases the integrity and efficiency of a system of price controls.
    SOURCE: The Concise Encyclopedia of Economics
    If this country ever does face a Long Emergency (and full parking lots say we are not), we can double our resource availability by rationing electricity, rationing gasoline, etc.
    Big government can solve these problems, just as big government did during the world wars.

  259. mistified July 18, 2012 at 1:14 pm #

    “”Repeal and replace” is pablum.”
    Hardly, learned one. If Romney wins there is a likelihood that the Senate could go to the Republicans. That would give Romney both houses. Repeal and replace would be highly likely as even idiot libtards would not want to get in front of that rolling engine of change that the electorate would be demanding.

  260. Vlad Krandz July 18, 2012 at 1:17 pm #

    Massive American attempt to subvert Russia about to checked. New law will require “NGO’s” to register as foreign agents. America has a similar law, unenforced of course. Otherwise alot of people would have to make an honest living here or in Israel.

  261. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 1:21 pm #

    When the reporter asked Romney how many houses he had, Romney could not remember. Did Romney ever get back on that? How many houses does Romney own?
    I only ask because the Constitution does set a specific maximum number on the number of houses. Two, I think.

  262. mistified July 18, 2012 at 1:25 pm #

    “Public unions negotiated fair pensions…”
    They did no such fucking thing. They were pigs at the trough and stupid politicians caved to their demands for fear of losing their votes.
    The pols perpetuated a ponzi scheme knowing full well that when the time came to make good on their promises they would be comfortably retired and absolved of responsibility. So they agreed to public union demands with absolutely no possible way of financing their promised pensions.
    Look at California. Look at the number of towns that are just beginning to declare bankruptcy. The cause? Promised pensions. The result? No money to pick up trash or fill pot holes. Thank you Mr/Ms politician. Thank you public union employee. Your pacts were made in hell. May you reside there in torment.

  263. mistified July 18, 2012 at 1:30 pm #

    “My brother says the maximum he can contribute to his traditional and Roth IRAs is $6,000 …”
    Like you, your brother is a moron as well. He can contribute as much as he fucking wants. He only receives certain tax benefits on the first 6000.

  264. Vlad Krandz July 18, 2012 at 1:32 pm #

    He may be very old. Perhaps the most old of any. A Highlander perhaps?

  265. mistified July 18, 2012 at 1:34 pm #

    “But it lacks grace.”
    Perhaps you would rather they raise merely the middle finger?
    I thought not.

  266. mistified July 18, 2012 at 1:37 pm #

    “When the reporter asked Romney how many houses he had, Romney could not remember.”
    Cool. Son of a bitch is so successful he’s not even sure how many houses he owns. I wonder if Tony Rezko “financed” any of Mitt’s homes?

  267. Kyooshtik July 18, 2012 at 1:44 pm #

    Q keeps attuned to M$M out of the corner of his eye,

    Not really Oz, my TV is tuned to CNBC from morning till night. I don’t think CNBC is considered MSM is it?
    But anyway, about your following quote from banking expert/analyst Bove
    “Disgusting,” writes Richard Bove to a client, as quoted by the Philly Inquirer.
    “If the rate is false, all of the charges associated with Libor-based loans are wrong … tens of thousands of businesses are paying the wrong rate on their loans … all of the bank stock [prices] are wrong.”
    I happened to have one eye and one ear on CNBC as Bove was discussing the LIBOR scandle with (I think) Larry Kudlow. The take-away was that if our own Fed’l Reserve had a hand in manipulating LIBOR it was for the purpose of making rates lower, not higher, worldwide, and thus all of the millions of people and contracts affected by the LIBOR rate were affected positively – ie they would pay less, not more. Bove said (and I paraphrase) the Fed had set out a couple of years ago to lower the US Fed Funds rate to a range of 0 to .25%…what good would that do if they left the far more important LIBOR rate at a higher and rising level? (rhetorical question)
    So*, the point is that the MSM would have you believe that people have been taking a royal screwing by paying HIGHER rates when in fact they have been enjoying unnaturally LOWER rates. The people being screwed by these manipulated LIBOR rates are all those people in the world that had/have no contracts based on LIBOR. Someone smarter than me would have to explain why this is so.
    * “So” at the beginning of this sentence is appropriate. It takes the place of the worn out cliche “All that having been said.”

  268. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 1:45 pm #

    If Romney wins…
    Mighty big “if” there, partner.
    Right now the number of electoral votes stands at:
    191 Romney
    274 Obama
    Romney has a far ways to go. So far even billions of dollars of propaganda may not work for him.
    By the way, you need 270 votes to become president.

  269. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 1:49 pm #

    Right now Romney has to expend energy just to get the support of Republicans. Many Republican movers and shakers are just not enthusiastic about Romney. I’m talking about people like: Rick Tyler, John Weaver, Ron Paul, George W. Bush, Rick Perry, William Kristol, Rick Santorum, etc.

  270. mistified July 18, 2012 at 1:50 pm #

    “Right now the number of electoral votes stands at:
    191 Romney
    274 Obama
    By the way, you need 270 votes to become president.”
    Well, by your accounting its all over. Case closed. Now you can go elsewhere and spread your intelligence on other topics, to other morons.

  271. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 1:51 pm #

    I don’t think CNBC is considered MSM is it?
    Q., you so far down the rabbit hole, you don’t know up from down.

  272. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 1:53 pm #

    I remember when you were posting as OEO, and swearing that McCain was going to be president. Case closed.

  273. mistified July 18, 2012 at 1:53 pm #

    “Right now Romney has to expend energy just to get the support of Republicans. ”
    Riiight. And those non-supportive Republicans are going to run right out and vote for Obama. Yep, here’s the headline:
    “Republicans Abandon Romney. Obama Wins in Landslide.”

  274. mistified July 18, 2012 at 1:56 pm #

    “I remember when you were posting as OEO, and swearing that McCain was going to be president. Case closed.”
    Really? You have a funny memory. But in seeing what you post in the present that does not surprise me.

  275. muddmike July 18, 2012 at 2:03 pm #

    Boy, you sure have some “interesting” views.
    I did a search on your comments and found that most of these come from extreme right wing sites.
    Surprise! As if I didn’t see that one coming.
    Also, I work in PRIVATE higher ed. I do agree that our education system doesn’t do that good a job. However, a large part of the problem is the attitude of the student as a customer. Teachers are required to keep students happy. Some simply fool the students into thinking that they are learning. Unfortunately most students come to school to get credentialed, not educated. The cram before tests and promptly forget. Teachers who expect students to remember much from previous courses are wiped out by “Student Evaluations of Teaching”, a risk losing their jobs.
    My school, a very selective private college is spending huge amounts on making the campus look pretty to attract students with parents who can pay the full tuition.
    As to your racial comments I am not going to even start. Those seem to come from right wing conspiracy sites.
    Also, foreign aid is a tiny part of the US budget. The biggest part is the bloated military budget. We are still spending billions on new carriers, which can only be used against undeveloped countries. For richer countries, including Iran these carriers should be called by their proper name, SITTING DUCKS for cheap cruise missles.

  276. Kyooshtik July 18, 2012 at 2:10 pm #

    How did Romney legally accumulate a $22 million IRA?
    Easy! He put in the max for a number of years and then he took that small pile ($25K – $50K) and went into cattle futures with the help of Hillary’s broker. Before you know it…$22 million.

  277. Kyooshtik July 18, 2012 at 2:26 pm #

    Q., you so far down the rabbit hole
    Please cease and desist with the affected Ebonics.

  278. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 2:40 pm #

    I suppose we’ll find out when Romney releases his tax returns. He released 23 years of tax returns to McCain when he wanted to be vice-president.
    McCain looked at them and decided to go with Palin.
    23 years of returns for VP, 2 years for President. Hmmm…

  279. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 2:42 pm #

    I cain’t hep it, Q. It just come natural.

  280. Kyooshtik July 18, 2012 at 2:44 pm #

    When the reporter asked Romney how many houses he had, Romney could not remember.
    Are you sure that was Romney? I thought that was McCain, or possibly Kerry. Both married into wealth.
    What must it be like with their cars? They drive over to Home Depot and come out an hour later trying to remember which the hell car they came in…was it the Jag, the Escalade, the Mercedes SUV, the…??
    The 0.1% have their problems too.

  281. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 2:44 pm #

    Republicans Abandon Romney. Obama Wins in Landslide.
    Depends on who eventually is picked as the Republican presidential candidate, on whether the convention becomes a brokered convention. Romney does not have a lock on it yet.

  282. anti soak July 18, 2012 at 2:48 pm #

    ‘My school, a very selective private college is spending huge amounts on making the campus look pretty to attract students with parents who can pay the full tuition.’
    What is the name of this school?
    Part of the problem with post secondary is the
    ‘government loans-FOR PROFIT schools’ Loop.
    Foreign aid, while 1% of the budget = billions or trillions over the decades. The money sent to Israel alone is billions, or adjusted for inflation, possibly TRILLIONS.
    I agree with Jan Brewer and Vlad about ‘ending liberal arts ed in public colleges’.

  283. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 2:51 pm #

    A supporter in Tampa thanked Romney for creating jobs by quadrupling the size of his $12 million California beachfront mansion. But did those jobs last? What happened to those jobs when the remodel was finished?
    Romney and his wife Ann also own homes in Lake Winnipesaukee, New Hampshire and Boston, Massachusetts. They sold two other homes in Belmont, Massachusetts and near Park City, Utah for about $8.75 million.
    So you have to give him credit. He is trying desperately to reduce the number of houses he has, the better to justify his claim that he is part of the middle class.
    I have felt some compassion for Romney since he informed me that he is also “unemployed.” He really needs that job as president.

  284. anti soak July 18, 2012 at 2:55 pm #

    ‘My school, a very selective private college is spending huge amounts on making the campus look pretty to attract students with parents who can pay the full tuition.’
    Or perhaps beeter worded as:
    My school, a very selective private college is spending huge amounts on making the campus look pretty to attract parents[read Fools] who can pay the full tuition for the rich kids.

  285. anti soak July 18, 2012 at 3:03 pm #

    ‘The’, Careful, with Kyoosthik here, you cant get away with unproofed entries.

  286. muddmike July 18, 2012 at 3:04 pm #

    I looked up numbers and it looks like foreign aid is about $25 billion a year now, so in a decade that would be $1/4 trillion. In 2001 it was only $15 billion per year. It looks like about $5 billion a year is to Israel, and aid to Africa is only $2-3 billion per year. Also, about $1 billion each year is about the wonderful war on drugs which is working so well, just ask the 30,000+ dead Mexicans.
    Yes, the bad for profit schools are a disaster, there are a few good ones, but most are just there to rip off students and tax payers.
    I am also not thrilled about “liberal arts” majors. I am in chemistry and teach a course for these students, and it is badly watered down. The sciences are a minority of the faculty, so we can’t require serious levels of courses to insure that students actually learn about science and technology. It is amazing how many of the faculty in the Lib Arts are proud that they are ignorant of science and math.
    Unfortunately even those in the sciences have such narrow educations that outside of their research areas they are also illiterate.

  287. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 3:06 pm #

    In the 1990’s Mitt Romney’s Bain Capital set up call centers, promising to create hundreds of local jobs. Romney convinced the states to support these efforts to “create jobs.”
    Then Bain (with Romney as “sole owner CEO”) closed the call centers just two and half years later due to off-shore outsourcing, laying off hundreds of middle-class workers, leaving the states with the debt, and taking taxpayers for millions in the process.
    A friend of mine went through the whole process of being excited about having a job, and then having Romney outsource his job, leaving taxpayers in the lurch with the state losing millions of dollars.
    Is Romney patriotic? Or does he just go for whatever leads to personal profit?

  288. anti soak July 18, 2012 at 3:08 pm #

    ‘evasion and black markets’
    Please refrain from using racist terms here, Mr. A.

  289. anti soak July 18, 2012 at 3:12 pm #

    I hear 60,000 dead in Mexico. Not sure if thats over 5 or 10 or 15 years.
    What state are you in? What do students pay a year? Tuition, room, etc.
    Our local JC is Santa Monica College, #1 transfer to USC etc.
    2 year schools are SUPPOSE to be ‘blue collar’ but a female [now a Felon?] president changed that!

  290. anti soak July 18, 2012 at 3:15 pm #

    It was McCain. He had 8 houses and said ‘7’, if I recall correctly.

  291. anti soak July 18, 2012 at 3:17 pm #

    Angry White Dude:
    The truth is illegal immigration is very costly to the state
    of CA. Estimates are $10B annually. But you’ll never hear about this from the
    mainstream media. They love sanctuary cities and CA is basically a sanctuary
    state. States with liberal sanctuary policies like CA actually attract and
    encourage illegal immigrants while states with policies like Arizona and
    Alabama repel them.
    CA has about one third (33%) the nation’s
    welfare recipients’ with less than one eighth the nations’ citizens. Census
    data has proven that a majority of illegal immigrants are on welfare. Many through
    their anchor baby dependents. Deportation of them all (and it can be done and
    was at the conclusion of World War II) would resolve CA’s fiscal nightmare in
    two years or less. But with GOV
    Moonbeam, the progressives in sacrament and the unions having a stranglehold on
    the tax-payers this will never happen………….

  292. Kyooshtik July 18, 2012 at 3:21 pm #

    When the reporter asked Romney how many houses he had, Romney could not remember.
    This must be a standard question used to trip up politicians. See below.
    The only relevant question in my mind is not about their possessions but whether they came by their wealth legally.

  293. muddmike July 18, 2012 at 3:26 pm #

    I am in PA, here tuition and fees are are over $42,000, with R & B >$52,000.
    The local CC is about $5,000 for a full time student.
    State schools are about $6,000 to $12,000 for tuition and fees for instate students. This is bound to go up since our great new Republic (accent on the last syllable) governor and legislature.
    No tax for gas drillers though!
    Republic is my response to the “Democrat” used by the Republics.

  294. San Jose Mom 51 July 18, 2012 at 3:32 pm #

    Tell me more about about the felon running the JC?
    Having just paid tuition for San Jose State University’s fall semester, I can tell you it cost $3970.00. Students cannot take more that 15 units.
    SJSU just got a new president, a guy who came from Cal State East Bay (much smaller than SJSU). Interestingly, he is from Afghanistan. I think he got his PhD in electrical engineering in the U.S.
    SJSU mom

  295. Kyooshtik July 18, 2012 at 3:38 pm #

    Or perhaps beeter worded as:
    YOUR wording would be even beeter if you inserted a comma after the word college.
    But that’s OK, we all got your drift.
    beeter definition?:
    one who is heavily involved with beets

  296. Kyooshtik July 18, 2012 at 3:46 pm #

    Having just paid tuition for San Jose State University’s fall semester, I can tell you it cost $3970.00. Students cannot take more that 15 units.
    Wow. When I started my freshman year at St Joe’s in Philly in Sept 1958 a semester cost $330 and I took 21 credits.

  297. anti soak July 18, 2012 at 3:47 pm #

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  298. anti soak July 18, 2012 at 4:55 pm #

    I was wrong..
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    While at Santa Monica College, Robertson was the subject of a federal lawsuit involving alleged extortion, racketeering, bribery, conversion of student funds, and undue influence. Robertson also met massive criticism from both the SMC faculty association and the classified staff, which led to more litigation involving unfair labor practices. Thanks to Robertson’s mismanagement of the college, it now faces serious enrollment and fiscal recovery problems. The Malibu Times has run an online article (May 10, 2006) in which they have uncovered an email sent to all SMC employees from current SMC President Chui L. Tsang, which states in part the following:
    “What I have found is that SMC has been plagued with budget instability for the past several years … What this means is that the college has been spending about $6 million more than it takes in … If we continue down this road, we face serious financial consequences-even bankruptcy.”

  299. anti soak July 18, 2012 at 4:58 pm #

    But did one need 128 Credits to Graduate, or 170+?

  300. Jam47 July 18, 2012 at 6:21 pm #

    Even if my age is turning me into a nervous Nellie, I can’t be the only one of Kunstler’s readers who sees the situation in Syria as more than just Syria’s version of the insurrections that earlier roiled Libya and Egypt. Those nations are peripheral. Syria is not.
    If one thinks of the Middle East as a cell, a cell in the physiological sense, Syria is the cell’s nucleus. And like a cell nucleus, it has powerful effects on all that surrounds it. Consider its surrounds, going clockwise: Lebanon, Turkey, Iraq, Jordon; and last but not least, Israel.
    To continue the metaphor in terms of virology, a diseased nucleus is the beginning of a diseased cell. This is Syria. Right now.
    Anyone who’s bothered to read what I’ve written can check the details for themselves: who’s just been killed in Damascus, and by whom.

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  302. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 8:13 pm #

    This must be a standard question used to trip up politicians.
    Yeah, like the trick question: “What do you read?”
    Evil journalists.
    The only relevant question in my mind is not about their possessions but whether they came by their wealth legally.
    And then you’ll weasel over what is “legal” …
    Romney bankrupted companies, outsourced jobs, left thousands of Americans unemployed and dependent on unemployment, welfare, food stamps, etc. and he did it all “legally” … and immorally.

  303. ozone July 18, 2012 at 8:15 pm #

    Here’s another angle of speculation on the Syrian “troubles”.
    (Give it a look; it’s very compact.)
    In the end, I don’t believe anyone pulling the strings of this deadly marionette show really want us to know what the real motives and end-game are.

  304. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 8:17 pm #

    News reports (from the evil journalists) say Romney may personally prefer to drop out before releasing more returns.
    If Romney drops out, the Republican convention is wide open, but whoever wants the nomination will have to overcome strong support for Ron Paul.

  305. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 8:28 pm #

    jam47, do you really believe Egypt is “peripheral”?
    Egypt has a significant Christian minority and the laws in Egypt guarantee that Christians should be ruled by laws pertaining to Christians and not by sharia law. Only Muslims are governed by sharia law.
    Egypt is a country of civil law, not an Islamic state. Having a president from the Muslim Brotherhood will not change that situation.
    Egypt has been one of the largest recipients of USA foreign aid, along with Israel and (in the 80s Iran-Contra period) Costa Rica.
    I personally would not consider Egypt peripheral.

  306. Pucker July 18, 2012 at 8:29 pm #

    Do midgets use less energy and fossil fuels than people of ordinary size?

  307. Pucker July 18, 2012 at 8:31 pm #

    I recall that during the early stages of the Tora Bora campaign during the initial invasion of Afghanistan that the U.S. Special Forces appeared to be using specially-trained midgets to fight the Taliban in the caves of Tora Bora.

  308. ozone July 18, 2012 at 8:33 pm #

    Thanks for the further clarification.
    It leads me to look into the prime motivations and movers.
    I’m wondering if you approve of these kind of manipulations/shenanigans? All depends on whose ox is getting gored, doesn’t it?
    Is “the fix” already “in”? Keep an eye on Holder; he’s done a magnificent job subverting justice so far; let’s see him dance this one right out of the ballroom…
    BTW, CNBC would be the very definition of a mainstream media outfit, though what that might have to do with this particular subject escapes me.
    (And please don’t be too hard on Charlie; he makes all his posts on a PHONE fer cry-eye! Consider the device.)

  309. ozone July 18, 2012 at 8:43 pm #

    Why yes, Dr. P! (Although some can eat prodigious amounts of vittles when challenged.)
    Plus, all my midget friends drive those Shriners parade mini-cars, and boy-lemme-tell-ya-what, those puppies get some SICK mpg’s!

  310. ozone July 18, 2012 at 8:46 pm #

    (No, the wearing of the fez is not required to legally operate one; it’s simply a dashing accoutrement.)

  311. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 8:56 pm #

    “So” at the beginning of this sentence is appropriate. It takes the place of the worn out cliche “All that having been said.”
    So is unnecessary. Have you abandoned Strunk & White?

  312. myrtlemay July 18, 2012 at 9:03 pm #

    I’m sensing that the CIA, U.S. and UK government, along with Israel have their fingerprints all over the attack in Syria. It just seems to fit the pattern of meddling in other countries affairs.
    On a related note, wasn’t it interesting to hear Netanyahu claim that the bombing of a tourist bus in Damascus, killing 6 Israelis, was the work of an Iranian Muslim terrorist. Warmongering? Nah!

  313. Iona Laundramat July 18, 2012 at 9:07 pm #

    You should have dropped them off at the beach and come by for a crisp, cold glass of German Riesling.

  314. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 9:13 pm #

    The only relevant question in my mind is not about their possessions but whether they came by their wealth legally.
    How can we determine whether anything illegal was done when we don’t have access to the appropriate documentation?
    For example, Mitt Romney may be hiding something since Romney has not released his full tax records from 2010, including key documentation connected to his Swiss bank accounts. We’ll probably never know what was hidden in the Cayman Islands, but we do know why drug dealers hide illegally gotten monies there. Ditto Bermuda.
    We also know Romney filed documents with the SEC stating he was CEO of Bain Capital at the same time he was running for Governor of Massachusetts in 2002. Now he claims he did a “retroactive resignation” from Bain, back to 1999. Are “retroactive resignations” legal? (are they real or are they CYA?
    In any event, Romney has demonstrated that he is incompetent, secretive, unpatriotic, and unable to vet himself before running for office.
    Anybody who really intends to get the nomination would have done a better job managing to get his ducks in a row before running. If Romney can’t manage his own presidential run, can he manage to run the country?

  315. Barfy Barf July 18, 2012 at 9:22 pm #

    But do you remember the “bleachers” in Fenway? Or the big “Jimmy Fund” sign? The Green Monster before they added seats?
    Who was the only man to play for the Bruins, Celtics and Red Sox?
    Did anyone ever hit one out over the right field wall into the street?
    Shlitz bear….

  316. Barfy Barf July 18, 2012 at 9:22 pm #


  317. muddmike July 18, 2012 at 9:31 pm #

    It is hard to tell what Romney doesn’t want us to see in his income tax records. I have heard several theories:
    1. He doesn’t want the Mormon Church find out that he shorted them on his tithes.
    2. He doesn’t want us to know how much money he has hidden in tax shelters.
    3. He possibly committed some crimes by not properly reporting his income.
    4. He doesn’t want us poor shlubs to know how little tax he paid in some of those years because of all the legal ways he used to avoid taxes.
    5. He doesn’t want people to see the addresses he listed, because none of them might be his son’s unfinished basement that he listed on his voter registration so he could vote against Ted Kennedy, which would be felony voter fraud.
    Add your own theories here….
    If someone eventually gets his forms then we will know the truth. Until then, it is anyone’s guess.

  318. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 9:42 pm #

    Muddmike, regarding illegal behavior, we know Romney was hiding money illegally. Romney was gaming the USA tax code, and Swiss bank accounts are only useful when used illegally.
    Romney was using Swiss accounts for the same reason other global elites use them: for their extreme levels of secrecy. That secrecy has allowed thousands of American taxpayers to stash income from offshore companies in a Swiss account, shielding it from the IRS.
    Do we want someone who will engage in illegal acts to avoid supporting the government of the USA to be running the government of the USA? Romney is about as unpatriotic as they come.

  319. muddmike July 18, 2012 at 9:46 pm #

    It is interesting how the rich and powerful think that changing names will make us forget. Blackwater became Xe, which then became Academi. Now they are being sued by a sporting goods company Academy. HaHA
    What has this got to do with anything?
    Well Bain calls themselves a “private equity” company to avoid using the toxic term leveraged buyout company which is what they really are!
    Here is how it works. They find a company that is doing “poorly”, i.e. paying their workers a fair wage for a fair days work, and putting enough money in the pension fund to make sure the workers will have a decent retirement.
    Bain puts in a few dollars and buys the company with mostly borrowed money. Then they assign the loans to the company, and take all but the minimum out of the pension fund. Then they fire most of the workforce and cut the pay for the rest. If possible they send jobs overseas. Then they sell the now “profitable” company for a huge profit. They take their profit, and their fees and laugh all the way the the bank (in the Caymans of Switzerland).
    Even though Romney is no longer involved, Bain and another PE company bought up Clear Channel, and are stripping it. (Actually that is a good thing for this country.) The latest move was to borrow $2 billion to pay a dividend of $6 per share.
    These guys really have class.

  320. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 9:49 pm #

    Here’s another theory:
    Romney did file the FBAR (Report on Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts) with his 2010 tax return.
    The IRS would be more likely to audit his returns of previous years if he did not file the FBAR in 2011, not to mention the penalty for not filing an FBAR can be severe. More illegal behavior?

  321. Jam47 July 18, 2012 at 9:53 pm #

    People started using the quotation-marks gesture because they thought it made them au courant. Being au-courant is the same thing as running with the herd. What’s so great about that?
    Raised their middle finger to the person to whom they were talking? Why would that matter to me?

  322. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 9:55 pm #

    Here’s another theory:
    Romney did NOT file the FBAR (Report on Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts) with his 2010 tax return, AS REQUIRED BY LAW.

  323. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 9:59 pm #

    The only relevant question in my mind is not about their possessions but whether they came by their wealth legally.
    They rarely get caught for illegally acquiring their illegal wealth. They often get caught for hiding it or not declaring it as income.
    Ask Al Capone.

    Despite his illegitimate occupation, Capone became a highly visible public figure. He made donations to various charitable endeavors using the money he made from his activities.
    Was Al Capone Mormon?

  324. muddmike July 18, 2012 at 9:59 pm #

    Well, we had Nixon, Raygun, Bush I and Bush II. There is ample evidence to prove that their people committed at least three acts of treason.
    Nixon’s people went to the South Vietnamese before the 68 election to wait to skip the peace talks and wait for Nixon to get in and give them a better deal. LBJ talked to Dirkson about it, but wouldn’t tell us because he felt it would shock us.
    Raygun and Bush I had the Iran Contra affair, and Bubba let them off the hook.
    Bush II had the Plame outing, but Obama let it slide because he wanted to move forward, even though he should have known the the Rethugs met on inauguration day to plan to trash the country by stopping all actions and blame him for it.
    The worst part is that Murikans are so ignorant and have been softened up by 40+ years of the 0.01%er funded propaganda agencies. They call them “think tanks”. This is where Vlad gets his info, and also probably his salary.
    Paul Craig Roberts was one of their lackeys (Heritage Foundation) before he actually started thinking.
    With all that and the Roberts court we have a real uphill battle to fight.

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  326. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 10:17 pm #

    There is protection in running with the herd. That is why people run with the herd. That and it is easy to find companionship when you are not out running all by yourself. Please do not misunderstand. I am not advocating running with the herd, but I understand why people do.

  327. Jam47 July 18, 2012 at 10:45 pm #

    Egypt is peripheral in the present situation because it is not the country that’s about to shatter, and whose shattering will affect its affect its neighbours. That country is Syria. My argument is an argument of location.

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  329. Jam47 July 18, 2012 at 11:00 pm #

    I agree with you, Asoka, and had your point in mind while I was writing. Running with the herd has survival value. But if the quotation-mark gesture becomes necessary for survival, we’re finished.

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  333. asoka.. July 18, 2012 at 11:27 pm #

    jam47, Obama is taking exactly the right position on Syria, which is not to act like a cowboy George W. Bush; not to bomb like Bush did (“shock and awe”); not to send American men and women into harm’s way like Bush did (without body armor); not to spend TRILLIONS of American taxpayer dollars like Bush did.
    From today’s news it looks like the Syrian government is falling (bad news for Iran) and Obama was right not to send in USA air or land forces.
    By seeking UN permission and constraining American military power, President Obama correctly sided with the global legalists who see national sovereignty as a problem to be overcome, not a principle to be cherished. The USA needs to step back from trying to be world policemen and President Obama is doing the right thing by not getting us involved in Syria, Libya, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Iran, etc. because there are actors who have interests who want to see us in all those countries, who want to see USA men and women die in that war theatre. Obama is being more prudent and more intelligent.

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  338. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 1:52 am #

    The USA is at war, and at least one of the two major party candidates refuses to clearly articulate a policy on Afghanistan. Romney has no position on Afghanistan.

  339. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 2:11 am #

    mistified has stated he supports the Paul Ryan plan for massive tax cuts at the national level.
    Now fiscal conservatives in Kansas are implementing the “Ryan plan” in Kansas. Backers of recent state tax cuts argue the spending cuts will create jobs and boost the economy to partially offset lost revenue — and the result has been a Republican civil war. Who woulda thunk it?
    They want to cut everything in Kansas: schools, roads and basic services for the poor, as well as cuts in prison funding that will lead to the release of convicted felons. Way to go Paul Ryan!
    Thanks to Ryan and the Koch brothers (who are based in Kansas) there is a chance that Kansas voters will vote for a Democratic president for the first time in 60 years. People have had just about enough of failed “trickle down” “supply side” “free market” Republican economics.
    Of course, Obama doesn’t need Kansas. He already has over the 270 electoral votes needed to win.

  340. Vlad Krandz July 19, 2012 at 2:15 am #

    You label something and think that is the same as understanding it – and refuting it. Calling my views “Right Wing” is not only wrong but ridiculous. You haven’t refuted me even if I was “right wing”. As a Fascist, I am neither left nor right but both and neither.
    The Native Americans say that Man was given the gift of speech but He misuses it. We say the word “rose” and then we don’t see the rose anymore. You need to both stop thinking as much and at the same time, begin to think again. Right now you’re just sloshing around words you don’t even understand. Like “Racist”.
    The Far Right has been right about mostly everything. The current right, the so called Neo Cons – are Jews who jumped from Trotskyism to Republicanism to advance their agenda. They have attracted many Gentile fellow travelers attracted by the idea of the Red, White, and Blue conquering the world for Capitalism.
    Blacks are idiot as everyone in higher education knows. Average Negro IQ – 70. Average Afro American IQ (with 15% White blood) – 85. If you don’t know this you’re a clown or lying.

  341. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 2:52 am #

    Average Negro IQ – 70. Average Afro American IQ (with 15% White blood) – 85.
    Vlad, what is your source for these numbers?
    How is percentage of white blood measured?
    By “Negro” do you mean Black African?

  342. Vlad Krandz July 19, 2012 at 2:54 am #

    And Clinton didn’t sell our secrets to Chian for campaing contributions?
    And Hillary wasn’t both a friend and disciple to Saul Alinsky? And she’s not committed to incremental Communist Revolution – as is Obama?
    Joe MaCarthy was right – he merely underestimated the extent of communist infiltration. He thought it was all coming from Russia ultimately. Wrong. It was coming from here via Warburg and Kuhn & Loeb, Rockerfella, etc.
    Incredible – you are still clinging to the duality of Democrat/Republican, in your case choosing the despicable Democrats.

  343. Vlad Krandz July 19, 2012 at 3:02 am #

    I’m going to take E’s advice on this: do your own leg work. These are well known statistics accepted by all psychometricians except the Jewish Fraudsters like Jared Diamond, Steven Jay Gould etc.
    A Negro is a Black without any admixture of anything else. Just pure savagery and stupidity.
    The 15% White genes (blood) is an estimated average for the Afro-American population. Obviously individuals vary tremendously. Not my estimate btw, but the Bell Curve’s, Rushton, etc. There I answered your first question after all.

  344. Widespreadpanic7 July 19, 2012 at 7:25 am #

    Asoka, it looks like you’ve got yourself a bosom ally here, MuddMike, evidently an esteemed educator at an unnamed private school. Maybe he works at one of the expensive Private Academies ’round here, where the 1% send their kids in order to facilitate guaranteed entry into the Ivy League. You and MuddMike seem to have it all figured out and agree on everything. Congratulations! Where I went to graduate school, Wesleyan University (on a program for local vets, for which I am grateful) there were a lot of these private school kids, unfortunately most of them with their heads up their asses. This left them vulnerable and easily sucked in to all sorts of crazy left wing causes and eastern religious bullshit. Speaking of that, I’m looking for an east coast Swami to instruct me on how to properly breath. Must have a long beard and big white headwrap. I don’t give a sh-t if he talks a lot of mumbo-jumbo so long as he doesn’t ask for my four digit pin.
    I thought Jill Stein, and her female running mate, was your candidate? Once again, why all the shilling for Obama?

  345. charliefoxtrot July 19, 2012 at 8:38 am #

    have to agree with that, whole-heartedly…

  346. charliefoxtrot July 19, 2012 at 8:46 am #

    don t say beer; say ‘Bull’…

  347. ozone July 19, 2012 at 9:41 am #

    Seems like everything ‘Murka does these days is the extension of a trick, a scam, a subterfuge for the purpose of splintering other nations and rule by proxy. These are the tactics of evil psychopathy, and this is why so many denizens of this nation have lost faith in its’ institutions and question the very basis of our opulent lifestyle.
    There is a reason people are drawn to Kunstler’s blog, and conversely, a reason why his pronouncements are so roundly and loudly denied. His views happen to be dangerous to the dominant paradigm; those who deride them are [quite obviously] the most heavily invested in the staus quo. That’s why there’s so much distractionary bullshit in this comment section. (On other blogs I read, at least the comments stay somewhat on topic! I find this one a fascinating study in diversion, subversion, propagandized distaste and denial.)
    *So*, on to Paul Craig Roberts, Deprogrammed True-Believer, who has his own opinions now, instead of those dictated by various 3-letter agencies (and whom you’ve mentioned):
    “It looks as if an over-confident US government is determined to have a three-front war: Syria, Lebanon, and Iran in the Middle East, China in the Far East, and Russia in Europe. This would appear to be an ambitious agenda for a government whose military was unable to occupy Iraq after nine years or to defeat the lightly-armed Taliban after eleven years, and whose economy and those of its NATO puppets are in trouble and decline with corresponding rising internal unrest and loss of confidence in political leadership.” -PCR
    (While I might opine that splintering, subversion and replacement is the current M.O., one could certainly call it “war” by other means.)
    That lingering bitter taste that some of us have in our mouths? It’s the taste of complicity (willing or unwilling) in evil, murder and control by overt threat of violence.

  348. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 9:42 am #

    I’m looking for an east coast Swami to instruct me on how to properly breath. Must have a long beard and big white headwrap. I don’t give a sh-t if he talks a lot of mumbo-jumbo
    WSP7, thank you for confiding your spiritual search. As it happens I do have a Swami I can recommend for you: Swami Beyondananda. He travels all over the country. If he ever goes to your area of Massachusetts, here are the top 10 reasons you should make the effort to go hear him:
    # 10. The world is in serious condition because of our conditioning to be serious. Seriously. Laughter improves the atmosphere and could lead to political climate change.
    # 9. The average child laughs 150 times a day, the average adult only 15. Do the math. Do the aftermath.
    # 8. Did you know that one in four Americans suffer from humorrhoids and don’t even know it? Don’t fall victim to this silent joy-killer. Just one Youngman of laughter – the humor contained in one of Swami’s wacky one-liners – can relieve up to a mega-hurt of emotional distress. The laugh you save may be your own …
    # 7. The Swami has plenty of new material, thanks to spending the past twelve months in the material world. In addition to “laughed overs” from his recent shows and snippets from the State of the Universe Address, Swami’s got a brand new song. Two of ’em, actually.
    # 6. Did you know the quality of life in your community is directly related to the “laugh force” that is generated? A rocking house filled with raucous laughter can create a farce field powerful enough to cause people to smile for no reason up to a mile away! Do you think this kind of power can help us heal the hole in the Bozone layer? You betcha.
    # 5. Swami promises to answer or evade all of your questions. In other words, if you have an answerable question the Swami will have a questionable answer. Something puzzling you? Ask the Swami, and have it puzzle him too.
    # 4. Are you a Bullwinkle fan? A Dylan fan? An Elvis fan? All of the above? You’ll get to see and hear Swami channel them ALL AT ONCE.
    # 3. Do you believe in the hereafter? Well, Swami will be here after the show signing books. You can’t lose. If he becomes really, really famous you will have a famous autograph. Otherwise you will have a rare book.
    # 2. Concerned about the economy? Here’s great news. Swami pledges that all the money taken in during this show … will be spent in the economy!
    #1. And the Number One reason to come to one of Swami’s performances? Unconditional love. Who doesn’t want or need unconditional love? So here is Swami’s unconditional guarantee: G to his show, and he will love you unconditionally!

  349. ozone July 19, 2012 at 9:46 am #

    (BTW, that last was off-topic as well, but I thought your post deserved a non-shill response. My apologies to everyone else trying to work out the current world banking chicanery that’s so basic to issues of confidence and trust.)

  350. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 9:52 am #

    QUESTION: “Do you regret that you had a gun that night?”
    ANSWER: “No, sir,” George Zimmerman, 28, replied. “I feel that it was all God’s plan and not for me to second-guess it or judge it.”

  351. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 10:00 am #

    BTW, that last was off-topic …
    But it was an enjoyable read. Thank you.
    By the way, where is it written that everything in the comments section has to be “on-topic”? How is “on-topic” defined? Is it related to the current week’s post? And when no one engages an “on-topic” post, doesn’t that encourage “off-topic” posts? Or is it something related to the subject matter of the blog? What is the subject matter of Clusterfuck Nation? Or, a better question would be, what is not related to Clusterfuck Nation? NASCAR, tattoos, cheese doodles, and every other thing that pops into the heads of anyone living in Clusterfuck Nation seems to be relevant to our particular American-brand clusterfuck, including “off-topic” comments. Again, where is the CFN posting rulebook to be found? It’s anarchy here. And no one is forcing anyone else to log on. No one is forcing anyone to read the comments. If you don’t like what you find here, you are free to go away. Or you are free to bitch about “off-topic” comments. Either way you are contributing to the very clusterfuck you bemoan.

  352. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 10:15 am #

    61% of the country in drought.
    70% of the corn crop destroyed.
    70% of the soybean crop destroyed.
    Corn and soybean prices have hit record highs.
    Unusual storms have disrupted electricity.
    Ice twice the size of Manhattan breaking off Greenland.
    Sea level rising.
    Etc. etc., but Obama does not talk about GW.
    Obama is guilty of prioritizing corporate interests (like Monsanto seed development) instead of taking steps to combat global warming.

  353. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 10:18 am #

    Survivors of three Americans killed by targeted drone attacks in Yemen last year sued top-ranking members of the United States government, alleging Wednesday they illegally killed the three, including a 16-year-old boy, in violation of international human rights law and the U.S. Constitution.
    “The government has killed three Americans. It should account for its actions. This case gives us an opportunity to do that,” Jameel Jaffer, deputy legal director with the American Civil Liberties Union, said in a press call.
    The suit is being litigated by the Center for Constitutional Rights and the ACLU. It seeks unspecified damages and highlights the government’s so-called unmanned “targeted killing” program. The ACLU and the Center maintain the drone attacks have killed thousands, including hundreds of innocent bystanders overseas.

  354. trippticket July 19, 2012 at 10:26 am #

    Entertaining piece this week from JHK. His ability to make the mundane colorful is world-class.
    Meanwhile, more of us every day on planet Earth are getting our affairs in order for the energy descent future of choice in our particular locale. At my house we upgraded our solar capacity by a tiny bit, then downgraded it again almost immediately. Living without electricity is a lot more enjoyable than I ever imagined it might be! Does cool things to your brain…
    For anyone who would like to catch up with what’s going on at our campstead in the north Georgia mountains, here’s my latest pictorial on offer:
    Cisterns, mushrooms, permaculture gardening techniques, and a homemade survey level, served up piping hot for your dining pleasure.
    Cheers, mates.
    Tripp out.

  355. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 10:28 am #

    Offshoring cost the U.S. 6 mill. manufacturing jobs in last decade. Urge your representatives to pass the Bring Jobs Home bill. This is not a partisan bill.
    83% of USA voters negatively view companies that ship jobs 2 China.
    97% of voters have a favorable view of Made in U.S.A. goods.
    In the last 10 yrs, U.S. lost 50,000 manufacturing facilities.

    S. 3664 makes two common-sense changes in U.S. tax policy to encourage companies to return jobs to the United States. S. 3364 ends a current tax break for U.S. companies that outsource jobs and activity. The bill also provides a 20 percent tax credit to encourage U.S. companies to move operations back to the United States.

    Let’s reward patriotic companies. Urge your representatives to pass the Bring Jobs Home bill.

  356. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 10:32 am #

    At my house we upgraded our solar capacity by a tiny bit, then downgraded it again almost immediately. Living without electricity is a lot more enjoyable than I ever imagined it might be! Does cool things to your brain…
    Great news, Tripp!
    Does this mean the solar-powered attic fan is history?

  357. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 10:41 am #

    “…eastern religious bullshit. Speaking of that, I’m looking for an east coast Swami…
    WSP7, I forgot to mention that “swami” is not bullshit. I want to demystify the word by defining it. Because in the west it has mystical bullshit connotations.
    Swami is simply a Sanskrit word that has two meanings: “one who has mastered himself,” and “husband.”
    No mystical eastern religious bullshit!
    Anybody can be a swami. I certainly recommend the experience.

  358. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 10:44 am #

    Romney wants to be president, but doesn’t want to release any tax returns.
    Any Joe the Pipefitter has to release three years of tax returns just to get a mortgage to buy a house.

  359. muddmike July 19, 2012 at 11:03 am #

    Fascism is about as right wing as it gets. Only the corpratocracy the 0.01% wants is farther right.
    Look at the Trans Pacific Partnership treaty, which basically makes governments the servants of the corporations, requiring them to pay corporation to not pillage and pollute.
    Also, speaking about labeling, anyone with any intelligence realizes that intelligence is far too complex to be evaluated with a single number. Pencil and paper IQ tests only measure the ability to answer those types of questions.
    Theories of multiple intelligences are getting closer, but are too simplistic.
    However, the use of a single number to describe a complex variable appeals to simpleminded people.
    For example, evaluating the economy by the GDP

  360. anti soak July 19, 2012 at 11:09 am #

    Let him have his Fantasy World, in which all the bad is from the Republicans.
    Ive been listening to NPR this morning. At the same time both stations are defending Immigration, ethnic studies etcetcetc! On our dime!
    KPFK has an immigrant talking about police shootings of blacks. That I dont deny. She doesnt mention who does over 50% of the killings in the USA.
    And news of bombing of Israelis [in Bulgaria?].

  361. muddmike July 19, 2012 at 11:09 am #

    “Blacks are idiot as everyone in higher education knows. ”
    Great grammar genius!
    Also, “everyone in higher education” is absolutely wrong. Maybe some do, but it is a minority.

  362. mistified July 19, 2012 at 11:11 am #

    “A friend of mine went through the whole process of being excited about having a job, and then having Romney outsource his job…”
    Holy shit. If he is a friend of yours their is no doubt in my mind that his job should have been outsourced. Romney should get a medal for this.

  363. anti soak July 19, 2012 at 11:14 am #

    Yes they are Chinese but they dont spell their names like that.

  364. ozone July 19, 2012 at 11:15 am #

    …And PERMIT-ED to boot! There’s some forward-looking health and zoning folks for you. Good deal; one less quadrant to get [unproductive] shit from. 16:1 on the urine ratio, eh? Will do.
    Chinese center wheel barrows make so much more sense for human energy input, and I’m sure you’ve got competent mechanics around to cobble one. (Could even be a lucrative endeavor, for that matter.) Have them take a peek; a picture’s worth a thousand descriptions.
    Thanks so much for the update; keep on keepin’ on!
    (Got my own idears on transit makings, but it does involve a small olden-time, focus adjustable telescope, so that might be the difficult piece to acquire. Also going to need nearly 900′ of well line to gravity feed from the see-ment pond; like you, wending through the woods; always something else to get to. )

  365. muddmike July 19, 2012 at 11:15 am #

    “And Clinton didn’t sell our secrets to Chian for campaing contributions?
    And Hillary wasn’t both a friend and disciple to Saul Alinsky? And she’s not committed to incremental Communist Revolution – as is Obama?

    Incredible – you are still clinging to the duality of Democrat/Republican, in your case choosing the despicable Democrats.”
    I only talked about actions for which there is ample evidence.
    Mind reading is NOT evidence. Note, I did not make any mention of any 9/11 conspiracies, because the evidence is still in doubt. There may have been a conspiracy, but it is not well shown
    I do understand that the Repukes and Dems are both owned by money and are pretty much the same.
    Obama is only slightly better than Romney, but if Romney gets in his appointments to the SCOTUS will put the corporatists in control for a generation. If that happens anything that helps people will disappear, and the US government will be there to make the 0.01% even richer.

  366. muddmike July 19, 2012 at 11:24 am #

    “MuddMike, evidently an esteemed educator at an unnamed private school. Maybe he works at one of the expensive Private Academies ’round here, where the 1% send their kids in order to facilitate guaranteed entry into the Ivy League.”
    I am at a four year college, and I agree that many students don’t learn much. I have stated that before.
    This school has some 1% kids but they are a minority.
    If you want to know which school, you will have to work. It is a private four year school right across the river from NJ. That is great comfort to me. If I am having a bad day, I can look across the Delaware and realize that at least I’m not in NJ! ;>)
    Another hint about my education, is that my screen name is related to my alma mater, a school where most of the students actually learn something.

  367. mistified July 19, 2012 at 11:26 am #

    “For example, Mitt Romney may be hiding something …”
    And you “may” have a brain but you do not.
    Let me give you a small clue. This election comes down to a sitting President with one of the shittiest records, on issues both domestic and foreign, in American history.
    You, your stupid self, have said in the past that President Obama should be tried for “war crimes”. So, according to you, our vote comes down to pulling the lever for a war criminal, or for a guy that has a couple too many (for your tastes) houses. According to your high moral standards (not), how many times do you plan on pulling the lever for Romney? I mean you can’t go with the “war criminal”.

  368. Zev Paiss July 19, 2012 at 11:26 am #

    We will never create the future we want if we can not first envision it. It is easy to find examples of how bad things canbe but almost no examples of a future that really works. Here is a solution.
    Please take a look at my recently published futuristic mystery “From Here to There: A Story of America’s Future” and join the conversation surrounding what we can do to make it through this time. http://www.fromhere-tothere.org

  369. mistified July 19, 2012 at 11:37 am #

    “Of course, Obama doesn’t need Kansas. He already has over the 270 electoral votes needed to win.”
    Riiiight. So, that being the case the election is over. Which is why you hang out here furiously defending Obama and trying to manufacture some sort of evil that Romney has been involved with? Sounds like rational behavior to me ; >)

  370. Kyooshtik July 19, 2012 at 11:38 am #

    Swami…. “one who has mastered himself,”
    This immediately brought to mind the hilarious writings of Frank McCort (Angela’s Ashes)..
    paraphrasing: “Bless me Father for I have sinned. It has been two weeks since my last confession. I hit my brother twice and I interfered with myself 17 times.”

  371. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 11:42 am #

    On our dime!
    Two percent of NPR’s revenue comes through competitive grants from federal agencies.
    Two percent is not enough to make a dime, anti soak.
    I want NPR funding to be increased to 50%

  372. mistified July 19, 2012 at 11:44 am #

    “They want to cut everything in Kansas: schools, roads and basic services for the poor…”
    Because they are adults. They looked at their bankbook. There is nothing in their account. They have to cut or they risk an even bleaker future. You, however, who are a grifting drain on society, have no possible way of perceiving this reality. Whatever.

  373. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 11:45 am #

    Jill Stein 2012

  374. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 11:51 am #

    Which is why you hang out here…
    I hang out here attacking both war criminal Barack Obama and Willard Romney because a vote for either of them is a wasted vote.
    Vote for the Green Party.
    Right now Obama has 274 electoral votes, but by drawing a sufficient number of voters away from both the Democratic and Republican parties, toward the Green Party, Jill Stein will become President. The candidate who receives the most electoral votes wins.

  375. mistified July 19, 2012 at 11:53 am #

    “I want NPR funding to be increased to 50%.”
    Of course you do. The country is going down the shitter and your priority is to increase funding NPR. And that would be because people have nowhere else go get news?
    My, my, you are pulling bottles out of the mouths of babies to fund NPR. What a monster!

  376. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 11:56 am #

    “We’ve given you people all you need to know…”
    –Mrs. Romney to an African American reporter
    Got that, “you people”?

  377. muddmike July 19, 2012 at 11:56 am #

    I forget to mention another case which is proven. W allowed the sale of the only company in the US that made powerful magnets that are used in the control motors of missiles. This company was sold to the Chinese and they took all of the equipment to China.
    Thus if there is ever a war against China, American military people will be killed by these magnets.
    W is a real patriot!
    The important thing is that some billionaire made more money!

  378. mistified July 19, 2012 at 11:58 am #

    ” …Jill Stein will become President.”
    Holy fuck, those must be some really good mushrooms you’ve been munching. Talk about a break from reality. You are a hoot.

  379. mistified July 19, 2012 at 12:02 pm #

    “”We’ve given you people all you need to know…”
    –Mrs. Romney to an African American reporter
    Got that, “you people”?
    Nice try, asshole. Putting words in peoples mouths. Read below:
    “CORRECTION: This article has been corrected to reflect that Ann Romney said “we’ve given all you people need to know” about her family finances.”
    Source here:

  380. mistified July 19, 2012 at 12:08 pm #

    And how fucking typical, soak. You and the likes of the Huffington Post, sit around and just wait for a candidate to utter something they think they can pounce on. Then you get it wrong, are too shameless, or stupid, or both, to apologize and go out and do it all over again. Take a little break. You are foaming. You risk being picked up for fear of spreading rabies.

  381. megbank08 July 19, 2012 at 12:10 pm #

    New Kingdom Hearts compilation scans
    236w ago – Three new scans of the Kingdom Hearts trio from this week’s Famitsu issue have surfaced. These scans confirm all the rumors that were flying around the past few weeks:

    · KH 358/2 Days
    Screenshots from Wonderland http://www.carter4i-sdhc.com, Agrabah, Olympus Coliseum and Twilight Town. All these locations are now confirmed.

    · KH Birth by Sleep
    Screenshots of Ven, Cinderella and Maleficent. Terra’s command gauge will have a Fatal Mode which he can use to eliminate enemies with powerful moves. The multiplayer concept is gone. According to the scans Terra is a powerful warrior, and Ven has excellent agility.

    » View KH: 358/2 Days scan HERE

    » View KH: Birth by Sleep scan HERE

    » View KH: Coded scan HERE

  382. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 12:16 pm #

    Yes, I would gladly pull bottles out of the mouths of mommy military’s baby soldiers to fund NPR.
    One in eight troops returning from Iraq and Afghanistan from 2006 to 2008 were referred for counseling for alcohol problems.
    The Army’s substance abuse budget increased under Bush:
    2004 = $38 million
    2008 = $51 million
    2010 NPR federal grants = $4 million

  383. mistified July 19, 2012 at 12:16 pm #

    “Jobless claims surge…
    REPORT: Foreclosure crisis hits older blacks, Hispanics hardest…
    Factory activity contracts…
    Home sales drop 5.4%, fewest since October…
    Grocery bills on rise as corn prices near record highs…”

  384. Kyooshtik July 19, 2012 at 12:17 pm #

    Romney bankrupted companies, outsourced jobs, left thousands of Americans unemployed and dependent on unemployment, welfare, food stamps, etc. and he did it all “legally” … and immorally.
    …and you would have no problem with these sins if he owned only one home? (BTW, this is NOT an instance of UpTalk)
    One of the amazing things about you Asoka is the amount of time and energy you devote to your various causes, the upcoming election in particular, from your adobe hut in South America (wink wink).
    I, on the other hand, am free from concern about it. I have already told you that Obama will be reelected but you are so fearful of the White Republican you can’t stop working the net 24/7 on Obama’s behalf…the Jill Klein thing is a dodge.
    Sometimes I can see one tiny snippet about a person and everything comes clear to me like a brilliant epiphany. I knew John Edwards was unworthy and doomed the moment I saw the film clip of him combing and primping his hair.
    Romney is, likewise, doomed because, as Maureen Dowd pointed out, he is perceived as “the rich guy who wears pressed jeans.”

  385. mistified July 19, 2012 at 12:19 pm #

    “Yes, I would gladly pull bottles out of the mouths of mommy military’s baby soldiers to fund NPR.”
    Wow! Got your hate-on for members of the military. I’m not exactly surprised.

  386. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 12:24 pm #

    Nice try, mistified. She said “you people” as you just confirmed, as Huffington Post confirmed, as I confirmed.
    Listen to it from her own mouth at the :32 second mark
    “We’ve given all you people need to know…”

  387. mistified July 19, 2012 at 12:24 pm #

    “Romney is, likewise, doomed because, as Maureen Dowd pointed out, he is perceived as “the rich guy who wears pressed jeans.””
    And of course Maureen, who is rich, suggests we should run from Romney because he is like her? And that isn’t registered as being odd?
    But the guy who is bankrupting out entire nation, that guy, deserves our vote. Because he would be the cooler one to have a beer with?

  388. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 12:26 pm #

    Yeah, I don’t want drunken soldiers in the military.
    Soldiers are using sophisticated weapons which are better not be handled by drunks. Too much drinking going on in the military.

  389. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 12:33 pm #

    “But the guy who is bankrupting out entire nation…”
    That would be George W. Bush.
    Bush received a budget surplus and left a budget deficit.
    Despite what antigovernment conservatives say, non-defense discretionary spending on areas like foreign aid, education and food safety was not a driving factor in creating the deficits. In fact, such spending, accounting for only 15 percent of the budget, has been basically flat as a share of the economy for decades. Cutting it simply will not fill the deficit hole.
    SOURCE: How the Deficit Got This Big

  390. Kyooshtik July 19, 2012 at 12:46 pm #

    Nice try, mistified. She said “you people” ….. Listen to it from her own mouth
    How shameless of you Asoka! It is perfectly obvious that “you people” meant “you [media] people” not “you [black] people.”

  391. mistified July 19, 2012 at 12:52 pm #

    “Nice try, mistified. She said “you people”
    She was addressing journalists. That was the “you people” she was referring to. Yet you want to ascribe it some sort of racist comment against African Americans. Be my guest.

  392. xhalor July 19, 2012 at 12:52 pm #

    “Wow! Got your hate-on for members of the military.”
    Gee. If only we gave a fuck what assoka thought. The person who wants to put limits on everything except illegal immigration. And with that thought in mind, why aren’t limits placed on how much a single person can acquire? Remember the movie “Wall Street”? “How many yachts can you water ski behind?”

  393. mistified July 19, 2012 at 1:00 pm #

    “But the guy who is bankrupting out entire nation…”
    “That would be George W. Bush.”
    Oh no. You’re not going to trumpet the, “It’s George Bush’s fault”, logic of our current President?
    Bush retired. Remember. Obama was hired. Four years into the process we have results from the new guy’s input. The results are staggeringly bad. At all levels, for all Americans.
    When the diaper stinks, intelligent people, change the diaper. I’m guessing from your continued defense one of two things:
    You need to visit an ear/nose/throat specialist.
    You enjoy the smell of excrement.
    I’m placing my bet on the latter.

  394. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 1:04 pm #

    Yeah, why not a minimum income and and maximum income, at a 10 to 1 ratio.
    If they lowest paid salary is $30,000 a year, the cap on highest salary salaries should be $300,000 a year.
    I don’t really think any one human being is worth 10 times more than another, but it would eliminate a lot of greedy behavior that has damaged our country, like off-shoring 50,000 factories looking for bigger profits.
    Of course, the richest ones making almost a $1,000 a day would have to spend it carefully. Imagine! The rich trying to live on $1,000 a day! But I think it can be done … with frugal habits.

  395. Vlad Krandz July 19, 2012 at 1:04 pm #

    No. You haven’t studied it obviously. Fascism is a political system – not just a pejorative for everything Liberals don’t like.
    Some quick proof before you study? Ever hear of National Socialism? That was a Fascist System – which included lots of Capitalism btw. But the Capitalists were not running the show. That’s the difference.
    You see both Capitalism and Communism are economic philosphies. Both end up being very centralized with a centralized banking system. Thus the Elite can work with either one. Typically, they use Communism to destroy traditional societies and then let Capitalism creep in when the Communist Economies begin to fail. China is becoming more like us as we become more like China. Yes, we are losing our rights while Capitalism never delivered those rights to the Chinese. So much for that theory.
    Fascism in contrast, is a Philosophy of Man, not matter, not economics. It subsumes economics for man and not man for economics. It is traditional society upadated for modern economic conditions. The best modern example? Japan. Sorry, they are not Capitalist or Socialist if you look really close.
    What would an American National Socialism look like? America first. Tariffs or “protectionism” – as if protecting our industries was a perversion or something. End foreign aid – nothing about it in the Constitution. End foreign wars and stay home like George Washington told us to.
    On Race: sure there are gifts or multiple intelligences if you will. But Civilization is created and maintained by g or general intelligence. And the IQ tests that measure that pretty well. And yes there are culture free ones now. I mean Black musical, athletic, and performing arts abilities are pretty impressive. None of that is as important as g. And the Blacks know that themselves. Shame on you for not.

  396. mistified July 19, 2012 at 1:04 pm #

    Cute Story:
    $50 Lesson
    Recently, while I was working in the flower beds in the front yard, my neighbors stopped to chat as they returned home from walking their dog.
    During our friendly conversation, I asked their 12 year old daughter what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be President someday.
    Both of her parents – liberal Democrats – were standing there, so I asked her, “If you were President what would be the first thing you would do?”
    She replied, “I’d give food and houses to all the homeless people.”
    Her parents beamed with pride!
    “Wow…what a worthy goal!” I said. “But you don’t have to wait until you’re President to do that!” I told her.
    “What do you mean?” she replied.
    So I told her, “You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and trim my hedge, and I’ll pay you $50. Then you can go over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house.”
    She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, “Why doesn’t the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?”
    I said, “Welcome to the Republican Party.”
    Her parents aren’t speaking to me.

  397. xhalor July 19, 2012 at 1:07 pm #

    Oh yeah. Mittens will fix everything. I say either don’t vote OR vote out ALL incumbents. The citizens either have control of this process or they don’t. Now that the decades of financial chicanery have finally been exposed, I would say that it’s a pretty safe bet that the citizens DO NOT have control of the voting process. Did you see that poor motorized wheelchair lady that tried to take the wheelchair up an escalator? OUCH! Wonder who she’s voting for?

  398. mistified July 19, 2012 at 1:10 pm #

    “The person who wants to put limits on everything except illegal immigration. ”
    I hate to disagree with someone who is criticizing asoka but asoka doesn’t want to put limits on much of anything. And that is his problem. He wants to open the till of a bankrupt store and hand out promissory notes to every wrongheaded cause that ever came down the pike. He’s the idiot savant of socialists without the savant portion of the diagnosis.

  399. Vlad Krandz July 19, 2012 at 1:13 pm #

    The rich and gifted would simply leave – and take their bat with them. My idea is better: simply pay everyone a living stipend and cut out the welfare middle women. And it would change in direct proportion to prices.
    The rich would still get to compete for wealth and honors. And the ordinary guy would still want a job to supplement his stipend. But the creative minority and the lazy would be preserved. And the guy or gal (I love my sudden folksiness) down on their luck would have their pride preserved and not have to crawl to bureacrats nor settle for jobs far below their experience or capacity.
    This plan preserves human nature and honors the natural differences. Your’s damadges both Man and his Nature by denying differences. It’s not about who is “better”. People can’t be compared like that – even if it is common to do so. Denying money types the right to make it is cruel. As is denying the go getters the fruit of their labors. No, help the bottom and the unusual who want to dream or do something different. Everyone will benefit then.

  400. mistified July 19, 2012 at 1:14 pm #

    “I don’t really think any one human being is worth 10 times more than another…”
    I don’t know anyone who thinks this either. Try this one, The EFFORTS and CONTRIBUTIONS of one individual are often worth much, much more, than the efforts and contributions of another individual.
    There is a difference. I know Marxists don’t recognize the difference but there is a difference

  401. mistified July 19, 2012 at 1:16 pm #

    “Did you see that poor motorized wheelchair lady that tried to take the wheelchair up an escalator? OUCH! Wonder who she’s voting for?”
    Well I would hope she isn’t voting for anyone. She sounds too stupid to vote.

  402. Vlad Krandz July 19, 2012 at 1:16 pm #

    Bravo, that was the Socratic Method where the teacher lets the student teach themselves thru skillful questioning.
    Socrates was put to death for it.

  403. Vlad Krandz July 19, 2012 at 1:19 pm #

    Yes, when we “opened” China we really opened ourselves to destruction. They benefitted and only a few hundred rich Americans did.

  404. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 1:19 pm #

    Poverty and homelessness are not due to laziness. Whoever doesn’t believe that should volunteer and find out how useless this “cute story” you found online is.
    Yes, you’re a Republican if you believe in undocumented fantasies that say all problems are moral deficiencies. The guy is probably homeless because his job was shipped overseas by one of Romney’s 138 Bain Capital efforts to ship jobs offshore.
    What the homeless guy needs can only be provided by big government: couseling, a steady address, identification, a place to sleep, regular meals, a place to wash his clothes and shower so that he looks presentable at for a job interview, etc.
    But all he is gonna get from you, mistified, is some holier than thou crapola about bootstraps and pulling.

  405. DeeJones July 19, 2012 at 1:23 pm #

    Say, does not this Bulgarian bus bombing seem odd to anyone else? The passengers were just off a plane from Israel, who has THE tightest security in the world. And yet, somehow, the bomber manages to smuggle a backpack full of high explosives through airport security? And no one is questioning this? And how Iran gets blamed immediately. Where are the airport security videos from Israel?
    False Swan anyone?
    Looks like a war is a coming. Guess the Israelies just couldn’t wait till Sept.

  406. Kyooshtik July 19, 2012 at 1:25 pm #

    simply pay everyone a living stipend and cut out the welfare middle women.
    The ink would not have dried on this scheme before a clamor would arise that the stipend be raised. It is in the nature of “entitlements” that this be so. Not that the welfare middle women system you speak of is any better.

  407. muddmike July 19, 2012 at 1:26 pm #

    The term, fascism, was invented by Mussolini. It comes from the Latin word fascis which means bundle, and it refers to a bundle of sticks.
    In fascism, the corporations and government are bound together. This is why Henry Ford thought Hitler was a great guy. Also, it is why Vannevar Bush (W’s granddaddy) found dealing with Hitler so profitable.
    You seem to think that I am as dull as you are. If you really believe those IQ tests, then you should defer to me, and realize that I know a little.
    Yes, China is now a fascist state,and the Soviet Union was a fascist state. The “leaders” were the same anonymous people working behinds the scenes as the CEOs are in the capitalist world.
    These people are not working for the people as you seem to think, but they are working for their own wealth and power. They don’t give a damn about anyone else. Most of these people are sociopaths who have no conscience.

  408. mistified July 19, 2012 at 1:28 pm #

    “What the homeless guy needs can only be provided by big government…”
    What the homeless guy needs is a home. You say it can only be provided by “big government.” There are millions and millions and millions of people, all over this world, who are living in homes that were not provided by “big government.”
    You are a moron. You need a vacation from being a moron. Try being quiet for a bit. You keep painting yourself into the corner of a room called “planet stupid.” Put down the brush, it is getting embarrassing.

  409. muddmike July 19, 2012 at 1:28 pm #

    I had a brain fart.
    That was Prescott Bush who was Ws granddaddy.
    Vannevar Bush was and engineer.

  410. mistified July 19, 2012 at 1:39 pm #

    “Say, does not this Bulgarian bus bombing seem odd to anyone else?”
    Nope. Just you. I’m guessing it was the Bushies who brought down the towers on 9/11.

  411. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 1:43 pm #

    “…simply pay everyone a living stipend …”
    Vlad, I agree with you. I like your idea better than my own. You have changed my mind. Something Q. thinks never happens on CFN.
    In terms of implementation it would be difficult, because people don’t like “give aways” … in this culture people are supposed to work. The puritan ethic is “no work, no eat.” That’s a tough ethic to overcome.
    But, essentially, I agree with you about society benefiting by giving away a stipend to support the lazy and the creative.
    I like that your plan preserves freedom for those who want to work to make big bucks and buy lots of possessions that they then have to maintain and protect. The rich can then also afford their drug habits (like Bush with his cocaine and alcohol abuse and drunken driving).

  412. Vlad Krandz July 19, 2012 at 1:44 pm #

    “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other.”
    President John Adams

  413. mistified July 19, 2012 at 1:45 pm #

    “Oops!… Obama’s Top Bundler Jonathan Lavine Was In Charge of Bain During GST Steel Layoffs’

  414. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 1:45 pm #

    mistified, you may be right about it being Bush’s fault.
    But whether you are right or wrong, thank you for coming out to play today. We might make 1,000 posts this week, thanks to you.

  415. mistified July 19, 2012 at 1:49 pm #

    ” The puritan ethic is “no work, no eat.” That’s a tough ethic to overcome.”
    And should be, lest an even larger portion of the population, line up behind you for their handout. Leeches will continue to leech till the host flicks them off.

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  417. Vlad Krandz July 19, 2012 at 1:50 pm #

    Yes Rush just told an incredible story (based on an editorial) about a boy’s father who ran a small grocery on the south side of Chicago (the baddest part of town). He left in the morning while still dark and came home after dark. He’s eat a plate of food, light a cigarette, talk for a couple of minutes, and then fall asleep in utter exhuasion of body and mind.
    The American Dream? I mean that’s how we attained prosperity, so let’s honor guys like this, but do we really want to go back to that? That’s what both parties want – to make us coolies by having to compete with desperate 3rd Worlders.
    I’ll never forget a guy I met who ran his own pharmacy for decades. It was horrible, he said. He never had time for anything else. The young guys and gals are lucky: they can work at Walgreens and have a life. A fascinating perspective that balances out the Dream and the Nightmare.

  418. mistified July 19, 2012 at 1:51 pm #

    “mistified, you may be right about it being Bush’s fault.”
    I know I’m right. Its all Bush’s fault. Obama hasn’t done much but golf, so it can’t be his fault.

  419. mistified July 19, 2012 at 1:53 pm #

    “We might make 1,000 posts this week…”
    My, my, that is something in which to take pride. You should take the rest of your life off as recompense for this esteemed achievement.

  420. mistified July 19, 2012 at 1:55 pm #

    I’m sorry, I meant you should take your life as recompense for this esteemed achievement. My bad.

  421. muddmike July 19, 2012 at 1:57 pm #

    Giving everyone a living stipend is an interesting idea. Has anyone done calculations to figure out how much this would take, and where the money would be obtained?
    I have no problem with people getting rich by doing something useful, provided they are not harming others in the process.

  422. Vlad Krandz July 19, 2012 at 1:58 pm #

    It’s good for people to contribute but we must be honest: we’ve ruined ourselves, wrecked by sucess. Even without offshoring and inshoring, there might not be enough jobs for everyone. That’s what technology does. Our forbears back in the 19th Century and up the 1920’s dreamed of the leisure it would produce FOR EVERYONE. How far we have fallen and how much we have forgotten.
    Now we condemn the dream that got us here. And try to inspire people to be coolies – a stage that everyone in it wants to get out of – and most never do. At best their kids do.
    The stipend has a natural corrective: it will have to be a bare minimum. Most people will naturally want to work at least a bit to have more. And many will want to work as much as they do now. In other words, like water, people will find their true level. And of course, women will select for those men who have money – another big incentive to work. But the stipend will suffice for those who have another calling – like music, writing, painting, meditation, etc.

  423. Rhino July 19, 2012 at 2:05 pm #

    …accounts unsettled…JHK
    To say the least. Measures to date look like trampolines under falling pianos. Using monetary policy to counter real economic phenomena ie offshoring – is absurd. And disastrous, the root of the speculative bubbles that have been inflating and bursting for the past 10-20 years.
    Seems that the other side of the pond can do no better what with fantasies of ivory tower economic and political theoreticians and the machinations of the corporate boardrooms coagulating into the mother of all financial debacles – the misconceived Euro.
    Some buffoon on this site commented on the skill with which this mess is being handled by European authorities. A howler that comment was. The solution presented by the big thinkers, if only the grubby politics of national self interest wouldn’t get in the way, is to have a fiscal union where responsible and hard working Germans pay the bills for tax evading citizens of corrupt southern regimes. As if the economic slag heap of the impoverished former East Germany wasn’t enough of a burden.
    This measure of pure nonsense is dead on arrival. Not happening not only for purely political reasons – why should northerners who spend their afternoons working pay for southerners who spend their afternoons screwing – but also for fiscal reasons. Germany is heavily indebted. Never mind willingness, does it even have the capacity to pay the bills of Greece, Italy, Spain, Cypress, Slovenia and whatever other financial fuckup is coming down the tracks (France?)? This isn’t the time for delusion to take the place of practicality.
    And I don’t want to hear the bleating that Greeks work longer hours than Germans. I piss myself laughing every time I hear it.
    As for this common European bank regulator, making an announcement of an intent to do it isn’t the same thing as doing it. It will never happen. And if through some miracle it does happen and they put some organization in place national political interests will castrate it. Watch for it to have all the efficacy of the clock watching incompetents at the SEC.

  424. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 2:08 pm #

    LOL! Keep ’em coming.
    Your insults are so inoffensive … charming actually. You are very entertaining with your wit. I hope you continue posting.

  425. Zev Paiss July 19, 2012 at 2:08 pm #

    I just keep asking why did Building 7 fall down on 9/11 so clean and neat? American’s are so willing to believe what we hear from the mainstream media.

  426. muddmike July 19, 2012 at 2:10 pm #

    Another option I thought of is just to have everyone work fewer hours.Productivity has doubled over the past 30 years and inflation corrected pay has remained constant over the same period.
    If this is true people could produce the same amount as before in half the time, thus doubling the number of jobs and giving people more free time.
    The added free time would lead to new markets and jobs.
    This happened at the beginning of the 20th century when the 40 hour workweek started.

  427. mistified July 19, 2012 at 2:10 pm #

    “Giving everyone a living stipend is an interesting idea. ”
    It’s called welfare. And food stamps. And a million other names. It already exists. Go here: http://www.benefits.gov/benefits/browse-by-category This will give you a peek to all that is available for the down and out. This is the “big government is the only one that can save us” mentality that asoka champions. The very programs that have bankrupted our country and if maintained, will destroy it.

  428. Kyooshtik July 19, 2012 at 2:13 pm #

    certain words sound decidedly feminine and week.
    I’ve given ya’ll nearly two full days to nail me for this and you blew it. Ha Ha, too late.

  429. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 2:14 pm #

    I have no problem with people getting rich by doing something useful, provided they are not harming others in the process.
    I agree. We essentially provide stipends to millions of military personnel who are not producing anything of value.
    In fact, they blow up things and waste a lot of resources. 97% of the oil used by big government is military use in endless “practice” flights and “war games.”
    We seem to have money to provide millions of soldiers with much more than the minimum stipend Vlad is talking about, yet they do nothing useful.
    They didn’t prevent an attack on USA soil, during Bush’s watch, for example. Of course, a lot of that was frozen pet goat Bush’s fault.

  430. mistified July 19, 2012 at 2:15 pm #

    “Your insults are so inoffensive … charming actually. ”
    Well thank you. I always try and do my part for the mentally challenged, by charming at least one in their midst, every, single day. From your comment I can now say, “Mission accomplished.”

  431. mistified July 19, 2012 at 2:17 pm #

    “I just keep asking why did Building 7 fall down on 9/11 so clean and neat? ”
    Why limit it to blgd. 7? The others fell rather neatly as well. Back to the drawing board, Zev, the conspiracy is bigger than you imagine.

  432. mistified July 19, 2012 at 2:20 pm #

    “They didn’t prevent an attack on USA soil, during Bush’s watch, for example. ”
    Well how could they? Bush was the one who attacked. Aren’t you aware it was a false flag operation? Get a clue, clueless.

  433. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 2:30 pm #

    Yes, Bush attacked, but he attacked the wrong country and wasted FOUR TRILLION dollars that could have gone to strengthen the USA domestically.
    In any event, a first-rate, world-class military would have simply refused to obey Bush’s orders to attack a country which posed no imminent danger to the security of the USA, which had never threatened the USA, and did not have the capability to attack the USA even if they wanted to.

  434. Kyooshtik July 19, 2012 at 2:38 pm #

    Watch for it to have all the efficacy of the clock watching incompetents at the SEC.
    Because you have left out a simple little hyphen (ie clock-watching) you have created a completely different image than what you intended. Think about it.

  435. Vlad Krandz July 19, 2012 at 2:39 pm #

    Don’t underestimate the tens of billions that will be saved by cutting out the whole Welfare Establishment. Nor underestimate the savings to the psyche and the freeing up eros or life energy and creativity.
    This idea comes from social scientist Charles Murray, author of Coming Apart, the state of White America 1960-2010 and co-author of The Bell Curve. He got it from someone else I believe. He wrote a book on it but I haven’t gotten to it yet. Entitled “In Our Hands”.
    There are problems of course. What to do with those who spend their stipend in a night’s crack or meth binge? Women who have kids they can’t support, etc. There would have to be some strong arm stuff at some point I admit. Btw, I don’t think it will work in a multi-racial mess like modern America. The problem is how to have a welfare state without creating a welfare class. Whites could handle it but I don’t think Hispanics or Blacks could. Certainly not with us to fall back on. It was working in Europe before they went crazy and let in the Muslims. But long term maybe it wouldn’t have: the taxes were quite high and the bureacracy weighed heavily against private enterprise. Both of those are a good way to create a welfare class.
    Iceland was the freest and the most educated – the goveremnt the smallest and the most responsive. The net was there but most weren’t using it. Naturally they are the ones that responded best and threw out the bankers. They were doomed – minorities were already flocking in, welcomed into paradise. Soon the White girls would be pushing around the mulatto babies and the welare rolls would have soared. How lucky they are that they crashed before their gene pool was ruined and a permanent minority/grievance class installed as a 5th column.
    They have thermal energy. They have thermal energy. And the sea, sheep, a bit of farming, a small population of high IQ Nordics/Celts – isolated between Northern Europe and Northern Canada. No one is better situated to survive what is to come. The can be completely self sufficient. Oh the Joy, the Peace. What have we thrown away for a mess of multi-cultural pottage and swimming pools for our horses?

  436. muddmike July 19, 2012 at 2:44 pm #

    I said it was an interesting idea. The only question I have is if someone has run the numbers. I have no idea of the costs and savings. I can only guess. It is not a trivial calculation.
    I did a quick search, but couldn’t find anything on it. Maybe I’m using the wrong search terms.

  437. Vlad Krandz July 19, 2012 at 2:47 pm #

    Murray claims it would be less, much less, that what we paying now. But sustainable? Don’t know.

  438. Kyooshtik July 19, 2012 at 3:01 pm #

    LOL! Keep ’em coming.
    Your insults are so inoffensive … charming actually.
    I agree. It is so refreshing to read a good beatdown. I don’t know why but I particularly like the scatologically based insults like “pantsfill.”

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  440. Kyooshtik July 19, 2012 at 3:08 pm #

    much less, [than] what we paying now.
    Oh no!! Now even Vlad has started using Ebonics.

  441. Jim In Occupied Amerika July 19, 2012 at 3:15 pm #

    The only way to create stipends is to pass a Robot Labor Income Tax. It will have to be a direct payment from the company to the Treasury where it will go directly to stipends. For the next 10 years, we may have to go to a full blown Command Economy to prevent corporations from passing the cost off onto the Serfs. Free Market Economies rely on certain trusts and sound structures to function. None of that exists and now we might understand what compelled the Soviet Union to do what it did after Lenin overthrew the breathtakingly corrupt Romanov ruling family. With the lion’s share of labor value and profits going to unemployed and underemployed humans, the corporations will be forced to live on legitimate profits from adding real value; not by robbing men of work and offshoring their jobs.
    Robots and automation replaced human beings and have concentrated the income stream to the 0.1% who no longer have to distribute the wealth created. To levy the tax will require an analysis of what the robot does, the people that would have done the job 50 years ago, and then levy a tax that forces the robot to support the humans. This will start to drain the swamp of ill gotten gain and restore some of the lost wages that would have gone to some poor slob or even the skilled worker, whose expertise meant nothing to the bean counters.
    Domestic robots and automation can be taxed at a lower rate than imported stuff. I’m talking about a 50% tax rate on domestic computer systems and robots! I’m talking 85% robot labor value tax as it comes off the ship from China! Imported stuff will have to have the tax estimated and slapped on everything that touches the docks or crosses the border.
    It’s bad enough, offshoring jobs to fulfill the Trickle Down Economics agenda. It’s even worse when robots and automation rob even the sweatshop workers! Civilization must always trump any alleged benefit of high tech and the potential for robbing people of the ability to sell their time and labor for wages i.e. the only kind of income possible now.
    All of this distorts wealth accumulation to an evil degree. I remember when Reaganomics was hatched out of the Faustian Deal he and Bush made with the banksters and Wall Street. The objective was to increase the efficiency of tax collection and increase profits for the purpose of restoring the Rust Belt. As we all know, when it came time to tax those windfall profits, the rich said NO! They stole it fair and square and Bush Sr. caved in, and passed the tax burden onto We The Serfs (now Slaves).
    We have a wealth concentration racket that’s concentrated far too much wealth and is too well protected from due process. Direct taxation of all devices that have caused job loss over the past 50 years is the only way to claw back some of the lost wages.

  442. Kyooshtik July 19, 2012 at 3:25 pm #

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    Answer: We’re bearish because complacency has started to set in?
    Thought bubble over Kyoo’s head: No, no, no, you’re confusing me. Are you asking me or telling me that complacency has started to set in?
    This example of the madness of UpTalk just in from a grown man on CNBC.

  443. Kyooshtik July 19, 2012 at 3:58 pm #

    The only way to create stipends is to pass a Robot Labor Income Tax.
    Jim in Occupied, the fatal flaw (actually their are many fatal flaws) in your tax-the-robots scheme as with many similar schemes is that a huge new government empire of robot-tax bean counters, experts, consultants and lobbyists would be required…kind of a whole ‘nother IRS. I can just picture the infighting, the corruption.
    What we need is something simple like one flat sales tax on every penny spent. We already have in place near universal state sales tax collection systems. Completely abandon all measurements of income whether corporate or individual and tax the bastards when they spend the money, not when they earn it or steal it.

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  445. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 4:16 pm #

    tax the bastards when they spend the money, not when they earn it or steal it.
    I would only change that slightly: tax the bastards earning less than $250,000 when they spend or gamble (speculate) with the money. Tax earnings over $250,000 at 95%.
    A financial transaction (or speculation) tax, would apply to trades in stocks, bonds, currencies and derivatives. The tax would generate 50 cents for every $100 traded. According to a 2009 report by the Center for Economic and Policy Research, the transaction tax could raise as much as $350 billion per year.
    I would also support going back to the 1950’s marginal tax rate on the rich. In the golden age of Eisenhower in the 1950’s people with incomes over $200,000 paid a 95% marginal tax rate.

  446. muddmike July 19, 2012 at 4:38 pm #

    “The only way to create stipends is to pass a Robot Labor Income Tax.”
    The main problem with this is that the robots will revolt and kill us all! ;>O

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    I have just bought an ace3ds console,and i want to know whether i can put wood r4 kernel into the ace3ds card?Will it block my 3ds console?

    Best Answer

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  448. sxfpoyv77 July 19, 2012 at 5:27 pm #

    European PSN Game Store Updates for April 13, 2011
    64w ago – SCEE’s Ross McGrath of the PlayStation Store Team has posted up this weeks European PSN game updates today, as follows:

    Hello all – Two new PSN games hit today for PS3 owners, complete with trials – the much anticipated Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes (20% day-one discount for Plussers) and Konami’s classic franchise reboot of Rush n’ Attack: Ex Patriot.

    We’ve also got loads of DLC for retail and digital releases, allowing you to expand your play time with Moon Diver, Motorstorm Apocalypse, Funky Lab Rat and Bulletstorm to name but a few.

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    Rayman (PSone) – (was – £3.99/€4.99 now – £2.99/€3.59)

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    Dissidia 012 [Duodecim] Final Fantasy

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  449. anti soak July 19, 2012 at 5:42 pm #

    Caroline May Daily Caller
    July 19, 2012
    The Mexican government has been working with the United States Department of Agriculture to increase participation in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), or food stamps.
    USDA has an agreement with Mexico to promote American food assistance programs, including food stamps, among Mexican Americans, Mexican nationals and migrant communities in America.
    “USDA and the government of Mexico have entered into a partnership to help educate eligible Mexican nationals living in the United States about available nutrition assistance,” the USDA explains in a brief paragraph on their “Reaching Low-Income Hispanics With Nutrition Assistance” web page. “Mexico will help disseminate this information through its embassy and network of approximately 50 consular offices.

  450. anti soak July 19, 2012 at 5:44 pm #

    To HELL with you
    He posts ‘a book’ w/o a 403 Ban!

  451. Kyooshtik July 19, 2012 at 5:57 pm #

    I would only change that slightly: tax the bastards earning …………. blah blah blah
    You don’t listen too well do you Asoka? Forget earnings (aka income). Tax everybody the same rate for everything based on expenditures…say, 10%. No breaks, no exceptions. Churches, charities, even the government itself pays on every dime it spends. The rich cannot escape unless they want to let their billions lie fallow under the mattress.
    You’ll love THIS…… even purchases of stocks and bonds get taxed. Talk about eliminating speculation and nano second massive trades. That would come to a halt real quick. Let’s see how successful the government would be in financing (ie selling) its massive debt with a 10% vig on top. Let’s see what interest rate would have to be paid to move the merchandise (ie to sell the bonds). The incentive NOT to run governments at a deficit would be enormous.
    Let’s see how long all these bullshit churches and charities last when THEY have to tithe Uncle Sam.
    No more social engineering via tax code.
    Ohhh the weeping and gnashing of teeth among lovers of BIG Govt…the Liberals especially and the Republicans to a slightly lesser extent.

  452. Widespreadpanic7 July 19, 2012 at 6:02 pm #

    Its a little more than specious there, DeeJones, to be implying the Israeli Govt. murdered their own citizens to precipitate a war with Iran. This bombing in Bulgaria occurred on the anniversary of the infamous terror bombing of that Synagogue in Argentina, which was proven to be the work of the Iranians. Israel is a nation that takes care of its citizens, not murders them. They’re not going to let this slide; they’ll be getting even pretty soon.

  453. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 6:45 pm #

    “You don’t listen too well do you Asoka? ”
    Should be:
    You don’t listen too well do you, Asoka?
    RULE: When a speaker in a sentence names the person to whom he is speaking, this addressing
    of his audience is called direct address. Direct address is indicated by the use of a comma.

  454. Jam47 July 19, 2012 at 6:55 pm #

    Private islands? Does that mean islands that are privately owned?
    Where are these islands that are supposedly owned by the rich? Are they in the Mediterranean? The South Pacific? The Caribbean? Can you name them? Can you name their millionaire or billionaire owners?
    If Marlon Brando, rich but not Croesus-rich, can buy his own island hideaway, others, richer and better connected, can do the same. But how many have done so?
    Let me take you literally. Let me take your one-tenth of one percent arithmetically rather than symbolically. And let me assume you are referring to a percentage of America’s population. Three hundred and fifty million divided by one thousand gives three hundred and fifty thousand. It’s impossible for so many people (the super-rich ruling elite) to divvy up amongst themselves all the islands that are available, especially as they’d be competing against the rich of Europe.
    Doomers who believe that the super-rich have islands to flee to in the event of a general collapse, islands that they have bought and built up and provisioned, are fooling themselves. They have constructed a mind-picture that’s based on imagination rather than fact.

  455. ebgbank22 July 19, 2012 at 7:05 pm #

    PlayStation Father Ken Kutaragi Launches New Internet Business
    138w ago – The ‘father’ of Sony’s PlayStation Ken Kutaragi has announced the launch of a new Cyber company today, with the business based in Tokyo.

    The firm works in Internet services, however, it is not yet detailed how it may overlap into the videogame industry.

    To quote: “The former chairman and CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment, Ken Kutaragi, has established a new company in Tokyo.

    A report from Japanese news group Nikkei, brought to attention in a Kotaku report, claims that the new company is called ‘Cyber AI Entertainment’.

    Kutaragi, widely known as the ‘father of PlayStation’, has a purported 90 per cent stake in the new firm. Reports also indicate that Cyber AI Entertainment has raised 20 million Yen in capital.

    The start-up firm will work in the field of internet services, though it is currently unclear exactly how the business will operate and if it will overlap with the game industry.”

  456. anti soak July 19, 2012 at 7:07 pm #

    Marlons Island, sold to cult leader Adi Da!
    See: Adi da archives.

  457. Vlad Krandz July 19, 2012 at 7:10 pm #

    Sounds good. Also the way the Japanese are trying to preserve their nation and not import millions of non Japanese workers. They are leading the revolution.
    When are the sex robots or fembots coming? Women need some competition to stay sharp…..We need to go back to that style where everything was shaped like a missile – boobs most of all.
    But how to keep our traitorous corporations working here in America? We could at least declare them non American and destroy them with tariffs if they try to sell here in America. That’s the stick. Maybe lower their income taxes to make the corporate rate competitive?

  458. ozone July 19, 2012 at 7:54 pm #

    HI, Sabrina, this may blocking up for your rectal passages, but for First Best Answer to console troubling you, put wood to your most rfur kernel until feeling good with lubricated slot firmware.
    Flashcard latest eye-blinkery (v2.69.) make for right gushing to more firmware, can’t hurt the wood r4 kernel. Then pushing flashcard into anus for good result to stop data “upload”.
    Thank you for take it easy question and to purchase a BIG FREE TENT for your major buttocks!
    We live to hurry Chinese delivery.
    Good Fortune and more Best Answers to Coming.

  459. ozone July 19, 2012 at 7:56 pm #

    (That was for good benefit of you. Welcomings to you!)

  460. ozone July 19, 2012 at 8:03 pm #

    No, it’s because you sounded decidedly feminine this week, and no one wanted to make you cry.

  461. muddmike July 19, 2012 at 8:04 pm #

    A private island doesn’t need to be owned by a single person, but can be a group of people.
    Here is a quote from the font of all knowledge, Wikipedia:
    “A private island is a disconnected body of land wholly owned by a single private citizen or corporation. Although this exclusivity gives the owner substantial control over the property, they still fall within the jurisdiction of national and sometimes local governments.”
    Jekyll Island in Georgia was a private club for millionaires in the early 1900’s. There are many people who own islands as individuals. Just Google “privately owned islands” and you will find that even Robin Williams and Ted Turner own islands.
    Also now, there are artificial islands off the coast of Dubai.
    I also meant it in the metaphorical sense of large estates in other countries. In fact their gated communities are almost islands, with limited access for the teeming masses.

  462. ozone July 19, 2012 at 8:06 pm #

    Better have good stockpiles, ’cause resupply could be “problematic”. ;o)

  463. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 8:07 pm #

    Let me take your one-tenth of one percent arithmetically rather than symbolically.
    Ooops! There you go spoiling things. 🙂
    People on CFN have a doomer fantasy and you are bringing reality into the picture. That’s a no no.
    CFNers have rich imaginations of what life must be like for the rich and are sure the rich can survive the collapse on their islands. And you, bless you, are bringing mathematical reality to smash the illusions.
    Welcome! and thank you!
    We need more skeptics among the true believers.

  464. muddmike July 19, 2012 at 8:14 pm #

    Some of you think the whole world will collapse at once. This is quite unlikely. Many areas are going to be still reasonably stable. Even in the US some regions will be relatively untouched.

  465. muddmike July 19, 2012 at 8:21 pm #

    In fact it is even unlikely that civilization will collapse except in small areas.
    The worst that will happen is that the poor and lower middle class will have a really tough time.

  466. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 8:22 pm #

    The obsession on this blog with apocalyptic, Black Swan, Orlov Dmitri-inspired, collapse fantasies needs to be countered by reasoned skepticism.
    Thank you muddmike for your reality-based comments.
    Of course the response of true believers to reason is: things appear to working normally, until they aren’t.
    Eventually, if you aren’t careful they will use the laws of physics argument on you and tell you reality will slap you up the side of the head.
    In other words: disaster can strike in any moment. Be afraid. Be very afraid. Buy gold and guns. The end is near. The sky is falling. etc. etc. Been about to collapse for decades now.

  467. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 8:26 pm #

    The rich better choose their islands carefully.

  468. Kyooshtik July 19, 2012 at 8:35 pm #

    will slap you up the side of the head.
    If you were really black you would know the expression is “slap you upside the haid.”

  469. Vlad Krandz July 19, 2012 at 8:36 pm #

    No, it was Perry Mason’s.

  470. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 8:43 pm #

    I have had to control my ebonics to get along in the white world. But you knew that.

  471. asoka.. July 19, 2012 at 8:46 pm #

    The Romney campaign says “real Americans” don’t care that Romney doesn’t have a position on Afghanistan.
    Are they saying the soldiers in Afghanistan are not real Americans. Or that they do not care about what policy Romney might have on Afghanistan? Isn’t it kind of important to know if Romney knows how to say something else other than “I’ll listen to the commanders on the ground”? And he wants to be President?

  472. dxfpoxy48 July 19, 2012 at 8:47 pm #

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    To quote: We’ve seen bongs made out of N64 and NES controllers, and both were amazing. But a bong made out of an Xbox 360? Oh hell yes.

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    Now if someone wants to make a grinder or a stash box out of a controller to match this thing, you’d have the most epic and nerdy smoking setup ever. I love it. Anyone else have homemade gaming-related paraphernalia? Send it to me!

  473. Kyooshtik July 19, 2012 at 8:57 pm #

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  474. ozone July 19, 2012 at 9:09 pm #

    Okay, I’ll retreat from the “All” to the relatively UNstable small areas to suit your parameters:
    Those in these unstable areas who’ve elected to barricade themselves in some gated community or ‘nother, will have a mean ol’ time getting resupplied, as all routes in or out of aforesaid gated Place of Safety will be blockaded by hungry po’ folk who won’t give a hoot or a holler to da law when it comes to hijacking and robbing incoming supplies to feed their starveling chilluns. It’ll happen in “other countries” first, but it will come to that in the FUSA as well.
    Keep the SWAT teams well-fed and paid with some kind of scrip if you’d like your gated community [in the tiny, but unstable area] to exist for a while. When the Ramen noodles and Beefaroni run thin, all bets are off. The gum’mint will be busy with containment operations of its’ own.

  475. ozone July 19, 2012 at 9:15 pm #

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  476. ozone July 19, 2012 at 9:16 pm #
  477. ozone July 19, 2012 at 9:18 pm #

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  478. Kyooshtik July 19, 2012 at 9:35 pm #

    The Romney campaign says “real Americans” don’t care that Romney doesn’t have a position on Afghanistan.
    The Romney campaign does not realize how true this is. The election has nothing to do with issues. The natural constituency of Obama – liberals and blacks – alone might not have been enough to get Obama re-elected, but when you toss in women, simply as a gender, who barely give a thought to issues but rather see an articulate and handsome, light-skinned black man for whom they can pull the lever and validate the freeing in 2008 of White America from 400 years of guilt over slavery, I guarantee it’s “4 more years” by popular vote numbers something like these:
    Obama (51%)
    Romney (46%)
    Other (3%)
    My motivation for saying this is NOT to aggravate Vlad, Mistified, or my brother-in-law but rather to recognize the inevitable.

  479. muddmike July 19, 2012 at 9:37 pm #

    Have you ever heard of helicopters. They are a new invention that can fly straight up into the air.
    If you think that you could shout those down, ask the Vietcong, Iraqis and Afghans how many helicopters they shot down with better weapons that Murikans have. How many Murikans have RPGs or shoulder launched antiaircraft missiles?
    These would not be for resupply, but to take the people away. This could easily be done at night without lights, or by setting fires to make a smoke screen.
    It would also be tougher to shoot them with the mercenaries shooting automatic weapons at you.
    If they have a decent water supply and generators with fuel it is not too difficult to store a few months of food. The people outside would run out of food first.

  480. myrtlemay July 19, 2012 at 9:42 pm #

    Queen Elizabeth owns many of these private islands. The Caymans and Bermuda, I believe, are just two examples. As was pointed out above, other foreign entities own these islands as well, or at least have a cozy relationship with their owners.
    Think about it. Say you come into a million dollars tomorrow. How long do you think that cash would last if you broadcasted it to every friend, family member, GOVERMENT, etc? The answer to that question, my dear, is why these “pirate islands” exist in the first place.

  481. Kyooshtik July 19, 2012 at 10:04 pm #

    Direct address is indicated by the use of a comma.
    I did not know that.

  482. dfgbank94 July 19, 2012 at 10:14 pm #

    Sony Bring on v2.43 Firmware quickly as 2.42 is all Messed Up
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    Very upsetting, fairly new PS3 (5 months) in excellent condition and was working perfectly prior to update. Extremely frustrating.

  483. muddmike July 19, 2012 at 10:15 pm #

    I also have realized that the rich people are more than likely good friends (big campaign donors) of the governor of the state.
    The governor happens to be in control of the state’s national guard units. Since his or her “friends” would be citizens at risk the national guard would come with Blackhawk helicopters, and probably a few gunships to back them up. Ask the Palestinians about helicopter gunships.
    There also might be some military contractors living in the neighborhood with many military contacts who could apply some force.

  484. dfgbank94 July 19, 2012 at 10:16 pm #

    Need for Speed Shift: Releasedatum bekannt
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  485. dfgbank94 July 19, 2012 at 10:19 pm #

    Nintendo 3DS: So viel Grafikpower wie die PS3?
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  486. rippedthunder July 19, 2012 at 10:55 pm #

    Croesus did not even own a refrigerator!. I am so much wealthier than he. I am multitudes. I am the omnipresent master of all things in existence. Well maybe not so much!! I do have fresh orange juice in the morning. Thanks trucker guys! I have pears and apples though! I ate a big ass green apple yesterday and it was good! I did get a little knot in the stomach ‘cuz it was not ripe! Still a treat!

  487. Fissile July 19, 2012 at 10:56 pm #

    You really are a fucking retard, why don’t you go back to 6th grade work on your reading comprehension? My point is that the Jews, Italians and everyone else in town ARE ALL BEING ROBBED BY THE CORRUPT AND ILLIGIMATE SYSTEM, AND THEY ALL COMPLAIN ABOUT THE EVERY INCREASING PROPERTY TAX BURDEN. They all will not listen to the obvious solution. This doesn’t surprise me regarding the Ginzos, since they are almost all morons. It does surprise me regarding the Jews, since most seem to well educated and accomplished in some way, but will not put up any resistance to being robbed by the thugs at the local municipal building.

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  489. asoka.. July 20, 2012 at 12:56 am #

    Mitt Romney’s involvement with anonymous accounts in offshore tax havens goes back to the 1984 founding of Bain Capital, which raised millions of dollars from wealthy foreigners through shell corporations in Panama, a nation notorious for tax avoidance schemes and money laundering.
    According to the LA Times, family members of some of Bain Capital’s first investors were tied to right-wing death squads in Latin America, while others were later convicted of various financial frauds.
    Now we are getting closer to Romney’s criminal activities.

  490. asoka.. July 20, 2012 at 1:01 am #

    Michele Bachmann claims that Huma Abedin, a top aide to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, may have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.
    So what, even if she did?
    The Muslim Brotherhood is the party the people legally elected in Egypt.
    There is no shame in “having ties” to the legally elected Muslim Brotherhood ruling party.
    I’m glad Boehner, McCain, and Rubio are slapping down Michelle Bachman’s McCarthyist paranoia.

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    Kaufman Bros analyst Shaw Wu said he was amazed at the stance that Consumer Reports carried out the new iPhone. Wu noted that every one’s recommendations are used as a guide by many consumers.
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  493. Pucker July 20, 2012 at 3:33 am #

    It looks like they’re going to bomb Iran using fried chicken grease. I bet that the pilots will be lick’n their fingers as they drop their party buckets over Tehran.
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  494. youmouyixia July 20, 2012 at 4:05 am #

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  495. youmouyixia July 20, 2012 at 4:06 am #

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  510. ozone July 20, 2012 at 10:56 am #

    Don’t worry; these are the good folks that will fix all the worldly problems by smiling at them and thinking correct thoughts! And if that doesn’t work, relax, you’ve got all of eternity and reach of the cosmos to meditate on it.
    See how nice?
    Now get thee to an ass-ram, ASAP.
    Just… breathe… no, you’re doing it wrong; try again… Breeeeathe… NO! Jeeziz, you can’t think correct thoughts if you can’t even breathe right!! Obviously, this is gonna take some time, training, and (of course) large wads of money handed to the proper people.

  511. ozone July 20, 2012 at 10:58 am #

    Sounds like a fun time for all!
    (Bring the kids!)

  512. ozone July 20, 2012 at 11:17 am #

    “According to a Gallop poll, 1 out of 4 Americans believe that the Earth has been visited by aliens from outerspace.” -Dr. P.
    I guess that means it’s about 25% TRUE!
    (Damn good thing it doesn’t originate from a Gallup poll, or this revelation might have some credibility. The Trot and Canter polls have intriguing results, but generally, equestrians tend to hold opinions endemic to a wealthy strata.)
    Strangely enough, I had a dream last night about UFO’s in a daylight setting. (I’m not kidding.) They’d appear as a single, fast-moving brilliant light, then hover and split into a perfectly perpendicular line of four identical lights. When one to four of these separate points would appear, each would then split into the “stacked” formation. One became four; one out of four…
    Pretty weird, Dr.; you may leave my head now. Thanks, that’s better.

  513. Widespreadpanic7 July 20, 2012 at 11:37 am #

    Goddamit OzPete, that post about the ass-ram had me falling out of my chair.
    To quote Crusty the Clown, “Its funny because its true”.
    Now about that Kidd treasure on Edward Island in the Connecticut River … its just waiting there to be dug up.

  514. Kyooshtik July 20, 2012 at 11:45 am #

    So, here’s the deal. There is a first cousin to inanely beginning a sentence with “So” and that is inanely beginning a sentence with “Sure.”
    At noon today CNBC will have on the show a guy named Dan Niles, a financial poo bah. Unless I am misremembering, he is a very dark-skinned Indian (dot, not feather), very handsome and articulate with zero Indian accent. (I only mention that as a fillip to Asoka about blacks inability or refusal to abandon Ebonics when a first generation Indian does it effortlessly). But I digress.
    The subject is starting a sentence with a word that makes no sense. Tune in at noon and listen to the Niles interview. Here’s how it will go:
    . Elaborate question by interviewer
    . Answer by Niles that begins “Sure,……..”

  515. mistified July 20, 2012 at 11:47 am #

    “Michele Bachmann claims that Huma Abedin, a top aide to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, may have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.
    So what, even if she did?”
    “Michele Bachmann claims that Huma Abedin, a top aide to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, may have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.
    Fuck the Muslim Brotherhood. See below:
    ” July 8, 2012 Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood Chairman Muhammad Badi — also known as the group’s ‘Supreme Guide’ – said last week that waging jihad against Israel is an imperative for every Muslim. Middle East watcher Raymond Ibrahim who scours the Arabic press and translates it to English for Western eyes posted this revelation on his blog: According to last Thursday’s edition of Al Wafd, during his weekly sermon, ‘Muhammad Badi, the Muslim Brotherhood’s Supreme Guide, confirmed the necessity for every Muslim to strive to save al-Quds [Jerusalem] from the hands of the rapists [Israelis] and to cleanse Palestine from the clutches of the occupation, deeming this an individual duty for all Muslims.’ More specifically, he ‘called on all Muslims to wage jihad with their money and their selves to free al-Quds’—the same exact language one finds in al-Qaeda’s tracts. Earlier this year, the Middle East Media Research Institute translated a sermon of Badi’s in which he called for gradually establishing a global Islamic Caliphate leading to ‘mastership of the world.’ Another sermon of Badi’s which raised eyebrows in the U.S. was delivered in October 2010, when he said the U.S. was doomed to collapse due to its immorality.”
    Mater-fucking-ship of the world. What a lovely bunch.

  516. myrtlemay July 20, 2012 at 11:52 am #

    Me neither! But how about this? “You don’t listen too well, do you Asoka?”
    I mean, which one is, like correct? The punctuation mark is supposed to go in the, like, middle? Or is it the end? Like, I’m so thoroughly confused? Gag me with a spoon, fer shure?

  517. muddmike July 20, 2012 at 12:02 pm #

    What about people who start sentences with too, instead of also?
    Too, I went to English class to have a nap.

  518. Pucker July 20, 2012 at 12:16 pm #

    Spock never got laid.

  519. myrtlemay July 20, 2012 at 12:20 pm #

    “So, a needle pulling thread.” or “Sew, a needle pulling thread?” “Also, a needle pulling thread?” Ouch! My head, like, hurts?

  520. Kyooshtik July 20, 2012 at 12:22 pm #

    What about people who start sentences with too,
    Yeah, that too. But I’ve got enough on my plate already between UpTalk, Vocal Fry and sentences beginning with So and Sure. Let’s not add in sentences beginning with Too or I’ll be spending the weekend under surveillance at Greystone.
    I wasn’t going to bring this up but there is another synonym for also that bugs the shit out of me: “as well.” Just sit there and slowly say those two words and think about them as you do. How in God’s name does “as well” equate to also?

  521. anti soak July 20, 2012 at 12:49 pm #

    There Meter is/was Jazz.
    With the decline of society, tastes, etc its now [C]Rap.
    And yes, few are Classical Musicians or Conductors.
    Are any Conductors?
    Dee, far as bombs and Mossad go, I dont know.
    Maybe bombs are now very small.

  522. rippedthunder July 20, 2012 at 12:54 pm #

    Q, Me is often times flummoxed by the use of aslo instead of asswhole. Plaese keap up the good fight for propere americen spellig, et seams to be a lost art taday amongst the General Pop, That would be General Pop of the famous “F-troup”.It is finally raining here, thanks Gaia, My plants are smiling and so am I! ;o)

  523. Rock Trueblood July 20, 2012 at 1:03 pm #

    Jim, I am currently only 35 pages into your new book, “Too Much Magic” and I am enjoying it greatly.
    I ran across this link and piece this morning which should interest all who read the comments here:
    It concerns Peak Growth and the author doesn’t even hit on Peak Oil, Peak Energy, resource depletion, environmental concerns, aquifers drying up, suburbs and exburbs dying, etc.
    He’s looking at debt, demographics, and population growth in the USA to warn of growth which is far smaller than what the government projects:

  524. myrtlemay July 20, 2012 at 1:05 pm #

    Too, it started to rain a little hear as well?

  525. muddmike July 20, 2012 at 1:12 pm #

    Ar! Ar! Humer!

  526. Kyooshtik July 20, 2012 at 1:20 pm #

    Apparently Dan Niles is not the Indian dude I thought he was. The interview was done by phone, not face to face, so i couldn’t get a look at him. The word “Sure” never came up so I assume I, in fact, misremembered.

  527. xhalor July 20, 2012 at 1:33 pm #

    “Many areas are going to be still reasonably stable. Even in the US some regions will be relatively untouched.”
    As a representative of an institution of higher learning, I would think that you would be familiar with the phrase “Okie migration”. How untouched will the “reasonably stable” regions be once the next Okie migration happens? How hard will the “reasonably stable” inhabitants try to keep the poor out? Will they kill? By the way, helicopters can be brought down by small arms fire.

  528. Vlad Krandz July 20, 2012 at 1:38 pm #

    Well, hang on. Maybe there are different ways (coming from different part of the human being) of doing music. I read a book about the violin by the Master, Yehudi Menuhin. Towards the end of his career and life, he remembered with great fondness the joy he had as a boy playing music with the Gypsies. No written music, never exactly the same way twice, but oh the skill and the joy. He realized that this was a Tradition too – as well as the great Masters of the fiddle in the British Isles. He went to study with them and was amazed at some of things they could do – he didn’t understand how it was even possible. Clearly the Music and instrument play the man and change his nervous system over time.
    Can the our Classical Traditon match or equal the spontaneous joy of the Folk Traditions? No, nor should it try: they are different. But even the Great Composers have taken from these traditions -and if they should ever cease to do so, their art might become sterile…And with the destruction of the Folk Traditions, have we seen an impact on the Classical? Is it becoming sterile? You tell me, I don’t keep up with it. But I wouldn’t bet against it….
    In the Vedas, Society is describe as the Cosmic Man. So Classical and “Court” Traditions would be up in the Head. But does the Head live alone? Can it, without the stomach, the legs, the arms etc? Our Elite seem to think so – and they already show signs of weakening. Thank God, they will pass away. Rama of the Axe had to destroy parasites like thise 21 times.
    So I would say Blacks like Gypsies can have great skill at real time or improvisation. What center or chakra would this be from? The manipura or anahata? Of course, even great Classicists touch these, else their art would have no life. Seizi Ozawa, conductor of the Boston Symphony, was famous for jumping up and down trying to be emotional. Yo Yo Ma is extremely joyfull without such emotionalism – which is quite alien to East Asians in general.

  529. Vlad Krandz July 20, 2012 at 1:42 pm #

    Rush said that Huma’s mother is best friends with the new first lady of Egypt. Is this affecting (is this correct or should it be effecting) our foreign policy? Is it the Ya Ya Sisterhood?

  530. asoka.. July 20, 2012 at 1:47 pm #

    Not anymore than you being friends with David Duke would change KKK policy. Being friends with someone (“having ties”) is not a crime.

  531. muddmike July 20, 2012 at 1:48 pm #

    Did civilization break down during the Okie migration? I think not.
    Yes, small arms fire can occasionally bring down helicopters, but it is rare without full auto weapons with tracers. If it was an easy thing to do, all of our choppers in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan would have been shot down. Also, your aim is worse when bullets are coming back at you as they would in such a case.
    It is highly unlikely that disaffected people would be able to mount a long siege on a gate community. They would most likely get tired and bored after a few days, and if things were bad they would run out of supplies and ammo since they would have trouble getting gas to resupply.
    The whole idea of an extended revolution of the 99% against the 1% is ludicrous, because of reasons I have stated before.

  532. asoka.. July 20, 2012 at 1:54 pm #

    I’m afraid this subject is over your head.
    I’m at the fiftieth chakra now. Are you saying there is a fifty-first chakra above that?

  533. xhalor July 20, 2012 at 1:58 pm #

    I didn’t say it would be easy. I said it could be done. If the only thing that you have left to do is revolt, I say it’s pretty unlikely that you will get “bored” with it. During a siege, that resupply problem works both ways.

  534. mistified July 20, 2012 at 2:08 pm #

    “Being friends with someone (“having ties”) is not a crime.”
    No, but being friends with an asshole, tends to make one an asshole.

  535. mistified July 20, 2012 at 2:12 pm #

    “The whole idea of an extended revolution of the 99% against the 1% is ludicrous, because of reasons I have stated before.”
    Hey, moron take a peek around the world. When the 99% get busy, it is merely a matter of time. You think Assad is going to still be passing water a month from now? Get a clue.