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The John Brown Moment

     When Gaia gets pissed off enough at the antics of humanity, she sends in her hit-man, Reality, to settle accounts. Reality is blessed with a cloak of invisibility. The human race is so busy concocting stories about what it is doing, that Reality steals onto the scene unnoticed – until bodies start to fall over, and the sort of bad political weather known as a shit-storm fills the skies, the streets, and the assembly halls.
     One of the cockamamie stories circulating this week is that the Euro bailout of broke member nations is fait accompli, baked in the cake, a done deal, no problemo, because the December 2011 Long Term Refinancing Operation makes it so. The European Central Bank can supposedly eat bad bond paper until the cows come home without choking to death at the same time that it can run a back-door money-printing racket without the results showing up in currency degradation. And the Greeks will bend over and receive what they’ve got coming good and hard because, well, they are Greeks, and it is their way!
     Excuse me, but something’s got to give. History is a lot of things, but it is not silly putty. Its cousin, Reality, slips through it performing its deeds one way or another. The Greeks have lately remembered some of their own history. The Germans have beset them before, they now recall, and some of the money currently labeled “debt” may have been filed incorrectly, the Greeks say. It actually belongs in the folder labeled “war reparations.” (Granted, it is hard to read folders when you are bending over so far that things look upside-down.) Germany, it happens, remembers too the last time that this folder was flopped out on the table. Things didn’t work out so well for the Weimar finance ministry in those dark days ninety years ago.
    Meanwhile, Athens and several other Greek cities ignite in an overture to what might come to be called the European Spring.
     Reality steals onto the scene bearing a message from Mother Gaia: “None of your shenanigans make the numbers add up. The European financial arrangement will blow up because it must.” Therefore, expect it to blow up. Germany will not keep pounding sand down the rat-hole of PIIGS insolvency for another year. Anyway, the proverbial can that everyone was kicking down the road – it fell down the rat-hole, too, so there is nothing left to kick except Greek civil servants, both current and retired and, alas, they represent that part of the Greek economy not occupied by olive cultivation, which is to say most of it. It turns out, when you kick Greeks down the road (probably Spaniards, Italians, Portuguese, and Irish, too) sparks fly off them and things catch fire.
     The bottom line seems to be that Europe can either go broke or burn down, or do both. But it can’t go back to what it was doing before: pretending to be rich and care-free.
     Over on this side of the Atlantic, America’s experiment in pervasive control fraud took a new turn with the pretended “settlement” of massive, widespread, robo-signing allegations that will allow a bunch of “the usual suspect” TBTF banks off the hook from future liability and criminal prosecution resulting from hundreds of billions of dollars worth of swindles. The TBTF banks will have to pay, when all the “principal reduction credits” and other dodgy subtractions are made, a couple of billion altogether, which is obviously little more than a cost of doing business for such supernaturally fabulous returns. And then that is supposed to be the end of the whole disgusting episode.
      Last to cave in on this legally squooshy agreement between fifty states was New York’s own Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, newly enlisted in the elite national corps of cads, bounders, and sell-outs. This was the week that the same Schneiderman agreed to lead President Obama’s so called Mortgage Fraud Task Force, which, any child of eight can see, is a smokescreen to conceal the fact that the US Department of Justice has failed to initiate any action whatsoever in the vast and gruesome pageant of fraud that has transformed the rule of law into a rule of larceny.
     Do you think the late Whitney Houston was a lost soul? Then look for the soul of your country – if you can find it in the wilderness of self-denial, self-double-dealing, and suicidal self-perfidy that it has blundered into with eyes wide shut. No lie is now too big for the United States to swallow. If Europeans ignite and blow up when kicked down the road, here is what will happen to America: it will blunder down its own road until it reaches the next John Brown moment. John Brown put his proverbially famous body in the middle of that road some ways back. He mounted an insurrection at Harper’s Ferry, Virginia, in an attempt to fast-track the abolition of slavery. Brown was hanged in 1859, but less than two years later the Civil War commenced, the greatest convulsion in our history. So far.
     Slavery was yesteryear’s abomination in America as pervasive control fraud is today’s. Somewhere out in America right now is the new American John Brown, a righteous fanatic whose act is waiting to alter the course of history. The next John Brown will also precipitate what was a long time coming. Reality is busy in the background, even while we blog and dither, setting things up.

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1,186 Responses to “The John Brown Moment”

  1. Nicholas Frank February 13, 2012 at 9:42 am #

    James, your amusingly serious words in your books Geography of Nowhere and The Long Emergency (among others) have been buzzing in my head for years and I have urged many to read them. My numerous years of thinking about how to go from sprawl to a sustainable social, economic, and environmental reality is beginning to take shape. On February 18 our group will hold an advisory meeting to start laying our nonprofit organizational foundation to take the first step, “The Holigent Seed Project,” toward a local to global transition program that could prepare communities to survive and thrive in the approaching collapse. I know we live far apart but if you happen to be in our neighborhood (Los Angeles) I invite you (and others) to join our meeting. See Contact at http://www.holigent.org

  2. kulturcritic* February 13, 2012 at 9:42 am #

    James, I am not sure what is worse the Superbowl or the Grammys as a diversion from our pressing realities. kulturCritic
    http://kulturcritic.wordpress.com/posts/war-games-comic-relief-and-diversionary-tactics/

  3. TrE February 13, 2012 at 9:44 am #

    Great post, Jim.(Interesting that you talk about Gaia’s coming revenge; I’m currrently enjoying a great book about permaculture, Gaia’s Garden.)
    Although you’re not a Doomer, your ongonig work does encourage us to become more self-reliant and better prepared for a very different reality. We sincerely appreciate it—thanks also for introducing us to Orlov, Foss, and others who help keep our eyes open. I managed to mention all of you (and even the new National Geographic reality show about preppers) in yesterday’s post.
    http://newveganage.blogspot.com/2012/02/prepper-culture-practical-choice-for.html

  4. jimbolio February 13, 2012 at 9:48 am #

    Excellent read this week, Jim.

  5. RyeBeachBum February 13, 2012 at 9:57 am #

    US and European finances are at the brink. I wonder what about Asia, I heard there are 60,000,000 unsold condos in China, and that all that money the ROC supposedly has was put into infrastructure, so that they do not have much financial leeway left either. When the Asian economies start looking sick then the Sh*t will really start hitting the fan.

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  6. jgalt6 February 13, 2012 at 9:58 am #

    Your comments, warnings, about the next John Brown will surely get the attention of our Injustice Department and the Homeland Insecurity Agency, as they monitor their wayward children, us. Your voice is too strident and consistent for their taste, that I am sure. Hope you, and we, can avoid being incarcerated in one of their concentration, nee rest, camps. Our marxist administration is counting on chaos and violence this summer to further their grip on power, as they suck the lifeblood from our once-great country.

  7. The Mook February 13, 2012 at 9:59 am #

    This will be the big one, forget WWIII. Armed and ready in PA.

  8. The Mook February 13, 2012 at 10:02 am #

    All the musicians who praised Whitney Houston at the Grammys made Nascar people (and football coaches)look intelligent. At least Paul McCartney’s performance was crackhead free and spot on.

  9. RyeBeachBum February 13, 2012 at 10:03 am #

    I also wonder how long before the fraud of the US public pension schemes is revealed. Like in Greece and Europe, our public employees with their lifetime Defined Benefit Plans, are woefully unfunded, and can not be sustained. Many of those are to be going reduced sharply or even traded in for a small lump sum payment.

  10. RyeBeachBum February 13, 2012 at 10:07 am #

    I thought that it was 49 states, that Oklahoma did not agree.

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  11. bubbleheadMarc February 13, 2012 at 10:08 am #

    EXAMPLES OF AMERICAN BELIEF THAT REALITY DOESN’T AFFECT US: [1] All urban/suburban housing erected above ground since the invention of nuclear weapons and especially hydrogen thermo-nuclear devices, which of course suck up houses like 400 mph tumbleweeds; [2] Continued use of drinking water to flush turds away as opposed to implementation of either composting or incinerator toilets; [3] Sending millions of antisocial illiterates to “high” school; [4] Abolishing the military draft in 1973; [5] Constructing the interstate highway system to encourage urban sprawl in utter obliviousness to the effect such an enterprise would have on rail transportation; [6] Government assent to construction of tens of millions of giant work trucks with obvious intent to employ them as privately owned vehicles rather than what they were designed for, namely work, to exploit the loophole in the fleet mileage standards passed by congress after the oil embargo; [7] The government not learning anything from the Indochina debacle.
    Let’s face it: we’re assholes!

  12. mika. February 13, 2012 at 10:08 am #

    our once-great country
    ==
    There’s nothing great about living off stolen war booty. Stolen war booty from World Wars that you financed and engineered. You are a nation of imperialist thieves and mass murderers. The most disgusting bunch of low-life animals since the days of Imperial Rome.

  13. deni February 13, 2012 at 10:10 am #

    Do Americans have what it will take to kick the bums out? Sadly, I doubt it. What is necessary will be a Herculean effort which simply does not possess any compatibility with our well entrenched national psychology of consumption, celebrity and success. A serious response will only begin when it is light years too late to actually effect the changes needed to free ourselves from the lifestyles and psychology of the rich and famous (the destructive and sociopathic monsters running things). Will Americans be capable of living with and, more importantly, accepting the ugly truth that they will have to live with less, a lot less – and like it? Absolutely not – absolutely. Our national lifestule is homicidal. Proof? Ask the long legacy of the dead for proof – the hundreds of thousands of Afghanis, Pakistanis, Iraqis, Vietnamese, Central Americans and the soon to be dead Iranians. We’ve murdered millions since the two grand went down in the towers and nary a peep from us compared to how much effort we spend convincing ourselves that our personal lives have a deeper meaning than the deaths of millions. You can only continue murdering innocents, that’s INNOCENTS, children, women, the aged and infirm and destroying civilizations for so long before Mother Earth and the gods above wave their hands and lay the big STOP order into our lives. Of course, this process will involve many of our own innocents, but, sadly, putting an end to our murder and mayhem will not include discriminatory decisions. A simple truth – the lushness and abundance of America is, ultimately, anti-life. It costs many lives elsewhere for us to “LIVE LARGE” and like all processes of excess, it finally turns on itself and begins devouring its own flesh. Good luck to all! Hang on tight because it’s going to be a wild ride!

  14. 3rd Generation February 13, 2012 at 10:19 am #

    I LIKE the part about ‘when he was hanged’.
    When WILL that commence here ?
    Whitney Houston got off easy.
    America, a POS Nation of Nothing, save for liars, cheaters, fraudsters, two-faced punks and felons.
    RUMBLE. Coming soon to your neighborhood. America WILL get bent over-the-rail, just like Greece, only much, much worse. LA/Watts/Chicago and New Jersey will look like picnics under blue skies with unicorns in residence, I predict.
    tick, tick, tick (Oops, 60 Minutes uses this too).

  15. newworld February 13, 2012 at 10:19 am #

    John Brown came from a confident WASP sub-culture with no self doubt about its supremacy, none. The only doubt about the Transcedentalists was from Melville and that was tepid in its critique.
    Better rethink this one Jim, there is no John Brown in America. America wants neck flames.
    The above written by a WASP with a family heraldic from the Danelaw.

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  16. Jack Acme February 13, 2012 at 10:23 am #

    Mr. Kunstler,
    “And the Greeks will bend over and receive what they’ve got coming good and hard because, well, they are Greeks, and it is their way! . . . (Granted, it is hard to read folders when you are bending over so far that things look upside-down.)”
    Your hyperbolic rants are often laugh-out-loud funny, but the sentences above are just sad. They remind me of the sniggering, infantile homophobia of grade-school boys circa 1957. You should leave that crap to Mel Gibson. You’re better than that.

  17. endofworld February 13, 2012 at 10:33 am #

    Yup–had to read Jim’s missive to know we are surronded by bullshit–cant change anything outside of me own life so try to live my own with as much dignity and grace that i can muster.thats my solution…

  18. Al Klein February 13, 2012 at 10:35 am #

    Mika…
    Spot on!
    “Auferre trucidare rapere falsis nominibus imperium atque ubi solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant.”

  19. AllisonV12 February 13, 2012 at 10:38 am #

    So a summary would be,fake rattle and roll.
    With the fake being the Euro and American bank loan sharking scheme starting to spin out of control and the stopgap measures.
    The rattle would be a mob of tear gassed huffing Greeks burning down a few touristy shops and overturning a few iPhone Apple carts.
    The roll would be a Jim Brown moment of suicidal desperation the would ignite the seething credit card slavery state of mind into outright rebellion.
    The Yin and Yang of Mad Max dystopia has two versions
    With a little love we all can live in some Upstate Nirvana commune with wind generators ,heirloom vegetable seeds and a hairy pit girlfriend tending your needs.
    I must admit it is more entertaining then most comments coming from the Neanderthals about gold guns and forty acres of bunkers and concertina wire.

  20. Jon Flatley February 13, 2012 at 10:38 am #

    Well done! We need more folks like you around. Then we wouldn’t have the mess we have now!

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  21. Al Klein February 13, 2012 at 10:41 am #

    Bubblehead, you are absolutely correct. We are assholes. And those of us who are not assholes are yet still assholes for allowing the primary assholes set the agenda and rule the day.

  22. Widespreadpanic7 February 13, 2012 at 10:42 am #

    I don’t know, Jim; According to the talking heads this morning on CNBC the situation in Greece is pretty much settled. Nothing really to worry about from that quarter. Sure, there are some hotheads in Athens, rioting in the streets, burning the place down, but that’s to be expected. After all, thay can no longer retire at age 35 and have the Germans pay for it. I’d be pissed too! Meanwhile the Dow is headed for an all-time record of 15000 sometime in early summer. Here in the USA Buffalo Wings and Gasoline are still readily available, altho Gas is getting a little bit pricey. I hope the price come down so we can once again go cruising for burgers this summer in our 8 cylinder Silverados.
    –WSP7

  23. highcountry February 13, 2012 at 10:44 am #

    This was just published at The Land Report:
    “Since the President of China is touring Iowa farm country next week, there is a obvious push for foreign ownership of farm land to feed their growing populations. Higher wages in China are pushing up the standard of living there and the population is demanding more western style food and thus more grain fed products and higher prices for the the farm land they buy.”

  24. steve February 13, 2012 at 10:45 am #

    who or what is “gaia” – maybe the next john brown? And, then, Jack raises the hoary spectre of “homophobia” – whatever that is

  25. anglo February 13, 2012 at 10:46 am #

    Very well said !!!

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  26. ront February 13, 2012 at 10:50 am #

    “They remind me of the sniggering, infantile homophobia of grade-school boys circa 1957. You should leave that crap to Mel Gibson. You’re better than that.”
    Well said, Jack. I fully agree with your observation and suggestion to JHK.

  27. Al Klein February 13, 2012 at 10:52 am #

    Let’s not forget another part of Reality: THe engines of production, as Marx called them. As JHK says, there’s a gigantic load of valueless paper floating aboout in the world. That includes most “financial instruments and products”, such as derivatives, as well as specie. OK, so it all collapses. What then? Who has the capacity to restructure and take their lives forward? Well, in the EU that would be Germany. They have the productive capacity and the productinve workers. Elsewhere it’s China. Same thing. Plenty of factories and plenty of willing, produvtive workers. And the moral of this story? The Greeks better start learning German and we better start learning Mandarin. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out who will be barking the orders in the future. Thgis advice is of course only useful to those who actually survive the adjustment/reckoning period.

  28. anglo February 13, 2012 at 10:53 am #

    For god’s sake buy yourself a dictionary.

  29. LaughingAsRomeWasBurningDown February 13, 2012 at 10:54 am #

    JHK, great column this week. Expected to hear a Santorum riff in there somewhere after the Greek buttsex jab (pardon the pun).
    Laughing as Athens was burning down. Just doesn’t have the same ring to it, does it? Greece, Rome, it’s all just a big toga party to us anyway.

  30. Smokyjoe February 13, 2012 at 10:54 am #

    I don’t think the US of A will see it’s “John Brown Moment” until it is a rearview-mirror event.
    I also don’t know if CF Nation readers saw this slide show from the Sunday NY Times, about the “Ghost Estates” of Ireland. Have a look and listen:
    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/02/10/magazine/ireland-ghost-estates.html?src=tp&smid=fb-share
    Having just been there, I can tell you, they are not us. They were, briefly, during the Boom. Now they are saying “Aw, begorrah, we are poor again. That’s normal in Ireland. What the HELL were we thinking? Yes, I’ll have another please.”
    And the result? They are bulldozing these greed-fueled “developments” back to farmland, because Suburbia has no future, and they know it. I admire the Irish sense of fatalism…we Yanks could use it.

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  31. ront February 13, 2012 at 10:55 am #

    “…try to live my own with as much dignity and grace that i can muster.thats my solution…”
    Endo, you are on target with this attitude.
    “If you want to awaken all of humanity, then awaken all of yourself; if you want to eliminate the suffering in the world, then eliminate all that is dark and negative in yourself. Truly, the greatest gift you have to give is that of your own self-transformation.” — Lao Tzu

  32. empirestatebuilding February 13, 2012 at 10:58 am #

    I spent the entire day yesterday watching The Walking Dead marathon. And by waling dead I mean the AMC series, not coverage of the Euro Debt Crises and the Mortgage settlement scheme.
    There is also a new series on Nat Geo called Preppers. People prepping for the end of civilization. I’m prepping too. And by prepping I mean doing enjoying the time we have left and not worrying about what will come.
    Aimlow Joe was here
    http://www.aimlow.com

  33. loveday February 13, 2012 at 11:04 am #

    Hey Jim
    Yup, all the sirens are screaming, the red flags are flying, and the game kick off is just a few weeks away. Beware the Ides of March. Even the internet is scheduled by the FBI to be partially shut down due to infected servers in March, according to their website. Sure whatever.
    Meanwhile, Obummer blunders around further alienating any miniscule residual support he may still have… “Middle class taxes are going up, get used it”. What? What middle class? I thought that particular class has been extinct for over 2 years. His crowning achievement to date is the settlement he forced on the country to protect banks from prosecution for mortgage fraud. Really breathtakingly disgusting. I wonder what he sees in the mirror these days, or has he just had all mirrors removed from his vicinity in true vampiric style.
    In Greece I think a point of no return has been reached. The masses simply have no choice, they must openly revolt or they won’t survive, literally. It is just that simple. So, the battle lines have been drawn and the mortal struggle commences in earnest. Maybe a modern day Greek hero will emerge to visit hubris on the savagely arrogant bankers. We can at least hope. Perhaps the Gods and Goddeses will put in an appearance, why not? The world is a very strange place these days.
    cheers clusterfuckers,
    loveday

  34. ozone February 13, 2012 at 11:08 am #

    Jim,
    Great posting; maybe it’s time to change your name to: James Cassandra Kunstler! (You must admit, it has a certain reckless panache to it, eh? ;o)
    Nice DJ name, too! Put your slickest shades on, lean to the side with arms crossed over your chest and intone your awesome moniker in a low menacing voice: “Yeeah, I AM Master Jimmyjam CK, who needs to know?”
    ANYhoo, as to this:
    “Do you think the late Whitney Houston was a lost soul? Then look for the soul of your country – if you can find it in the wilderness of self-denial, self-double-dealing, and suicidal self-perfidy that it has blundered into with eyes wide shut. No lie is now too big for the United States to swallow. If Europeans ignite and blow up when kicked down the road, here is what will happen to America: it will blunder down its own road until it reaches the next John Brown moment.” -JHK
    Yep. And the large problem with that explosive moment, is that it will likely be seized by the corn-one nazis who feel their time has finally come. This is probably because of the immature nature of our “culture” and that our knee-jerk reaction to crises is akin to a 3-yr-old’s tantrum in the horror-filled realm of the candy aisle. Try telling a bloated ‘Murkin that he can’t have what is unavailable, and their response will be to cleave to any huckster who tells them lies of perpetual abundance, withheld from them by comm’uh’nust lib’ruls.
    You’re right, we’ve become a nation of bullshittery (tm, MyrtleMay). Bullshit artistes, braying to those who fervently wish to be bullshitted.
    “Pretendering is more funner than harsh-y stuff like reality! I thought YOU were bringin’ the Doodles; or were you just pretendering?” -New ‘Murkin Brownshirt

  35. bubbleheadMarc February 13, 2012 at 11:08 am #

    We are programmed in this all encompassing consumer culture to “get along by going along” in effect unthinkingly caving in to all the assholes so as to avoid ruffling anyone’s feathers. Just try running a service business where the stated policy is “no assholes will be served”. At one location the landlord started giving us shit for not waiting on unreasonable people saying that he did himself as a matter of course. What that taught me was this: persons who object to such a policy are themselves assholes and part of the problem. It was largely because of him that I refused to buy that business in his building since operating the business would have entailed dealing with him and his asinine expectations such as attempting haircuts on people who were so inarticulate they couldn’t even describe what it was that they wanted. Other people, not our customers themselves, actually expected us to attempt haircuts on babies who were incapable of sitting down. If we refused such ridiculous requests they would verbally assault us accusing us of being hungover or high on drugs! Then when you evict them from the shop they file bad reviews with Angie’s List. Fuck all of them. This country sucks. The person above who said we’re mass murderers on a global scale is essentially correct, unfortunately. Just take a look at the drug war we’re currently prosecuting in Latin America. People forget that coca leaves are a legal product there and there would be no cross border smuggling without American demand for such products. Yes indeed we are a nation of assholes and will get our just desserts.

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  36. ccm989 February 13, 2012 at 11:08 am #

    Reality is a bitch, I hear. Reality is something that most people deal with daily and others ignore blithely. Facts have gotten very flexible lately (FOX News anyone?). The new reality is not dealing with any reality until it bites you, hard. But things could still be fixed. The rich could be taxed on their dividends and interest at 30% instead of the current 15%. Tariffs could be put on all Chinese imports. And the humongous subsidies for Wall Street and Big Oil and Big Ag could be taken away (but probably won’t because Congress is in bed with them with the window curtains open for everyone to see). So we can either vote in people who try to do the right thing or people who will do whatever their big money masters tells them because they have a direct line to them (President Romney, Sheldon Adelson is on the line for you and he wants you to blow up Iran because he owns you).
    None of it looks good. The NYT carried a very interesting article Sunday – http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/us/even-critics-of-safety-net-increasingly-depend-on-it.html?_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha2
    The recipients of most social welfare type programs are very willing to take the government handouts and then bite the hand that feeds them because the recipients can’t admit the fact that THEY are the losers who can’t cut it in today’s economy so they blame the government or Obama or somebody, anybody else BUT themselves. Its funny that the majority of Medicare recipients are actually older, white folks but when polled, those very same people thought the majority of recipients were black people living in ghettos! Those pesky fact things!
    So John Brown is coming, huh? Just hope its not Rick Santorum. Ugh, creepiest creep of the Republican Creep Fest. Makes Flip Romney look reasonable. So get your guns loaded, folks, and check your supplies of canned goods and bottled water. Because your neighbor, who enrolled his 5 kids in the school breakfast/lunch programs and takes the Earned Income Credit, cause he can’t support his own family has his own economic collapse program too -– take Your Stuff with his gun. And he’ll probably tell ya what a good Christian he is too.

  37. noel bodie February 13, 2012 at 11:12 am #

    Happy 200 Charles Dickens: It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Was he talking about the 1% and the Greeks, Irish,etc? Like Jim I think we are just now viewing “previews of coming attractions”.

  38. ozone February 13, 2012 at 11:12 am #

    LOL! Now thet thar be some dry snark!
    Good ‘un, WSP.
    :o)

  39. ozone February 13, 2012 at 11:17 am #

    Oh, as to bullshit and the bullshitted upon, here’s a fine example:
    Rick Santorum for President of The United States.
    You’ve GOT to be fucking kidding me. This is what we’ve come to? Jesus wept. WTFTSTFizzat?

  40. pedal pusher February 13, 2012 at 11:18 am #

    The growing power of the corporation over the now skeletal nation-state is at work here. The government won’t prosecute the corporate masters because it can’t. Governments are no longer in control – neither here nor abroad. The concept of ‘nationhood’ has been reduced to little more than a motif – a design element, if you will, much devoid of its original function.
    Meanwhile the masses are given fireworks on the Fourth of July, wear flag pins, sport patriotic bumper stickers and gladly send their sons and daughters off to resource wars. The maintenance of the illusion that such behaviors are done for “God and Country” is a necessary part of society’s transition from an organizational framework centered on nationalism to one based entirely on corporate oligarchy.
    Culturally, the ice has been officially broken with Romney’s declaration that “corporations are people too.” Soon we will hear such phrases as “corporate rights” and even “corporate Sovereignty” being bantered about.
    “My sheep will know their master.” JC

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  41. ozone February 13, 2012 at 11:22 am #

    Yeah, and what was that old and moldy lesson about supply lines? Oh, that’s right… the longer they are; the more easily they’re cut. Oopsie.

  42. SNAFU February 13, 2012 at 11:23 am #

    Is it not amazing the lack of comprehension, by the vast majority of humans, of the magnitude of the catastrophic forces over hanging the future of the Earth?
    An apropos article in SAGE Journals, a few days ago, by APS (Association for Psychological Science) “Bright Minds and Dark Attitudes: Lower
    Cognitive Ability Predicts Greater Prejudice Through Right-Wing Ideology and Low Intergroup Contact”.
    From the study’s abstract: “In an analysis of two large-scale, nationally representative United Kingdom data sets (N = 15,874), we found that lower general intelligence (g) in childhood predicts greater racism in adulthood, and this effect was largely mediated via conservative ideology. A secondary analysis of a U.S. data set confirmed a predictive effect of poor abstract-reasoning skills on anti-homosexual prejudice, a relation partially mediated by both authoritarianism and low levels of
    inter-group contact. All analyses controlled for education and socioeconomic status.”
    The article explains the allure of conservative authoritarianism, to many in the lower economic arena, by elucidating the impact of lower levels of general intelligence exhibited during childhood. The authors contend that those with reduced cognitive ability are enamored by right-wing ideologies which are socially conservative, authoritarian, prejudicial, resistant to change and promote inter-group inequalities.
    Read the entire research article at: http://pss.sagepub.com/content/23/2/187.full.pdf+html
    SNAFU

  43. charliefoxtrot February 13, 2012 at 11:24 am #

    heh heh heh…! “in bed with the curtains open” THAT S funny! sadder’n’fuck, but funny…

  44. LaughingAsRomeWasBurningDown February 13, 2012 at 11:27 am #

    The corn-pone nazis gearing up here in Tennessee at least. Got one of those “papers please” citizenship laws in the works now, since we saw how well it worked out for Alabama. And taking all mentions of slavery out of our schoolbooks. Tennessee Uber Alles!

  45. WestCoast February 13, 2012 at 11:28 am #

    Jack Acme,
    Two old Greeks are talking,
    One says,
    “I’m thinking of going back to to Greece”
    the other replies,
    “I think I’ll stick with Vaseline”.
    “Homophobia” a phoney activist invented word created for the purposes of attempting to semantically ignore the majority of society’s disgust at the promotion of homosexuality.
    How about an alternate? “Degeneraphobia”?

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  46. lsjogren February 13, 2012 at 11:31 am #

    If you want an even more dismal outlook consider this.
    The people that comment here one would hope would offer the best hope of providing some solutions to the mess mankind is in.
    But for the most part I would say people here are at least as delusional as those who are currently in charge.
    What solutions do we find here: Of course there are the obligatory leftists that feel what we need is happy motoring under an even more centralized and authoritarian government.
    Or Tea Partiers that think all our problems can be fixed by simply restoring fidelity to the Constitution. Try to fix Peak Oil that way!
    Then we have the Back To the Stone Age folks. Hey, you are probably right that’s where we’re headed but it’s nothing to be happy about. Do you realize when those surviving humans are feeding themselves by traditional farming methods, things like modern medicine will be a thing of the past?

  47. george February 13, 2012 at 11:34 am #

    Sadly, America is not alone when it comes to the game of self-delusion. Witness the behavior of our once-rational Canadian brothers and sisters, who decided to put their country’s future in the hands of a bunch of Dick Cheney wannabes whose goal is to turn the entire area from north of the 49th parralell to the Arctic circle into a giant playground for multinational oil companies. The human race has been badly served by leaders who tell the tell the populace comforting fairy tales while fleecing them at every opportunity. Meanwhile, here in the Motorless city, the Obama administration has cancelled all plans for light rail while the city cuts bus service and those without a car wonder how they’ll function now that they have no way to get to the grocery store, doctors’ office etc.

  48. sevenmmm February 13, 2012 at 11:38 am #

    Ha! So far!
    It is funny the Greeks elected airheads in the first place, the reason they took the Euro credit hook line and sinker.
    But what really gives the whole of the Greek Nation the title “airheads”, is the fact they burn their own buildings.
    Sure, I might sit here on my ass reading blogs from time to time, but would much rather go dither fishing than try to convince the “American Nation” of airheads not to burn their own buildings, as they will.
    Coming soon to a town near you!

  49. charliefoxtrot February 13, 2012 at 11:57 am #

    google ‘medicine is the leading cause of death’ and see for yourself… i would link to it for your convenience if i knew how…

  50. anti soak February 13, 2012 at 11:58 am #

    You have not been to LA lately!
    LA Times did a story on the ‘defend illegals’ rally in Nashville [yikes]
    ‘The corn-pone nazis gearing up here in Tennessee at least.’
    Those who what US borders defended are not Nazis.
    Are you a nazi?

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  51. anti soak February 13, 2012 at 12:00 pm #

    The article explains the allure of conservative authoritarianism,
    Im in LA..plenty of ‘Liberal’ ‘authoritarianism
    here.
    Let the Scientists stick to science, not ‘social’ “science”.

  52. Rhino February 13, 2012 at 12:03 pm #

    To Charliefoxtrot
    I raise a glass to you, prost!

  53. anti soak February 13, 2012 at 12:04 pm #

    I am well aware. Hospitals KILL.
    WH just died, perhaps it was the pills.
    50,000 a year in US die from those pills, yes?

  54. Rhino February 13, 2012 at 12:05 pm #

    To Widespreadpanic7
    Thanks for the kind words last week. I enjoy your posts also.

  55. bearfoot February 13, 2012 at 12:06 pm #

    john, do you know what a “marxist” administration would look like, do you think that ayn had a clue? neither do i! good luck with the dreamscape!

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  56. newworld February 13, 2012 at 12:09 pm #

    How do you explain the low cognitive abilities of blacks, hispanics and Amerinds? Are you white liberals so dumb, so blinded with anti-White hatred you cannot process any logic?
    Do you think the big city public schools with their 50% graduation rate are turning out coupon clipping young white bread Republicans?
    I guess being white and “liberal” means nothing but being an anti-white these days, or you submerge yourself in a nearly irrelevant cult like the vegans or the oildrum world is gonna burn up cult, and safely out of harms way.

  57. jerry February 13, 2012 at 12:10 pm #

    John Brown was a famous figure in the abolition movement and got hung; yet, William Still was a key figure in the Underground Railroad and the movement of slaves into the North and Canada. His role is known by only a few compared to the role John Brown played.
    On the EU—if the Greek people continue to gather momentum and protest by the millions, they will be a game changer when their elections come up in the spring. It will change the face of the world’s economic problems!!!
    It appears that China’s output is slowing. Consumerism is also slowing not only in the U.S, but in the EU, as well. What the GOPies seem to fail to understand is that austerity doesn’t improve an economy or Treasury revenues. It shrinks the economy and causes hardship; therefore, can destroy an economy no matter how much they wish to shrink the public sector. It will create more foreclosures and business failures.
    The Fed is out of ammunition to improve the economy. The GOP are a bunch of extremely regressive morons and idiots.
    Here is quote from Macbeth:
    “The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
    Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
    that struts and frets his hour upon the stage;
    And then is heard no more. It is a tale
    Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
    Signifying nothing.”
    http://eye-on-washington.blogspot.com

  58. bearfoot February 13, 2012 at 12:11 pm #

    whose fault was that?

  59. Rhino February 13, 2012 at 12:14 pm #

    To Ozone
    “but hell, ain’t the natch’al woild (including that cosmic stuff) ENOUGH without adding in deities with whips or love shackles?” – Ozone last week
    “Enough”? I don’t know. Regardless, I think religion is a pursuit that’s gone nowhere. Looks to me to always run into the same dead ends. I don’t think we have the mental machinery or any other means for that matter to fathom anything other than the natural “woild”. So the natural woild is what we’re stuck with.

  60. wisewebwoman February 13, 2012 at 12:14 pm #

    Thanks for expressing my thoughts and so well, Jack. JHK’s homophobia and misogyny (occasional rants on HRC) gets in the way of his otherwise brilliant analysis.

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  61. wagelaborer February 13, 2012 at 12:17 pm #

    Interesting column. I thought that when JHK started talking about the revenge of Gaia, that he would be talking about hurricanes, wildfires and floods, or something actually relating to reality, since the term Gaia refers to Mother Earth.
    But, no, he’s talking about fiat currency, which has absolutely no basis in reality, if by reality you mean the earth, land, air and water of our small planet.
    I’m pretty sure that Gaia doesn’t give a shit about the euro, or the dollar, or the gold standard. Or credit derivatives.
    But the destruction of the oceans, the blowing up of mountains, the polluting of fresh water, the rapid burning of the stored carbon of many millions of years?
    THAT would be the reality which may cause problems for the human race, now having reached 7 billion.

  62. Rhino February 13, 2012 at 12:22 pm #

    To Vlad,
    “You don’t want to know and therefore you wont.” – Vlad last week
    That’s right. Even if I “know”, what of it. What do you propose I do with the knowledge? Nothing good will come of it.
    And how much do we “know” and how much gets constantly revised through continual research and re-investigation. Seems to me that what we “know” today could be proven to be incomplete/erroneous later.
    Not long ago anthroplogists were convinced by invesigating the differences between sapiens and neanderthal mitochodrial DNA that there was no interbreeding between neanderthal and sapiens. Now they’ve changed their minds. Now they say that non african DNA is 1% to 4% neanderthal. And will that number get revised? Up or down? Who knows.
    So if you intend to act on what is “known” scientifically best beware.

  63. bearfoot February 13, 2012 at 12:23 pm #

    it seems to me, bubbleheaded::bubbleheadedmarc, that your doublebubbleheaded bubbleheadedness would, require that you have one of the LARGER Aholes! could you design an ‘app’ for your doublebubbleheadedness? ? ? ?it would sure be wecomed by all of your fellow troubleheaded commenter!!!!!

  64. charliefoxtrot February 13, 2012 at 12:34 pm #

    raising coffee mug backatcha: so what s prost? like cheers, maybe…?

  65. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 12:35 pm #

    One thing hasn’t changed: the massive level of immigration. Their Elite, just like our’s, in committed to a Brown Ireland – a genocide of the Irish People. What other explanation can their be? The jobs are gone yet they keep pouring them in.

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  66. bubbleheadMarc February 13, 2012 at 12:37 pm #

    I don’t use “apps” because I don’t live inside of a cell phone. Are you called “bearfoot” because you weigh 500 pounds and wear extra wide shoes you special order through the mail since such shoes are not commonly stocked in stores which cater overwhelmingly to persons of normal size? And more to the point, have I offended you because you’re one of the assholes who object to merchants who refuse to wait on assholes? And have you ever encountered a bear outside the confines of a zoo?

  67. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 12:37 pm #

    Mika’s not American – are you? You are? Just because you live here? Really?

  68. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 12:43 pm #

    It’s worked out very well in Alabama. If the Feds can’t reverse it soon, everyone going to have a job. You are a total fool – as are all pro-illegal advocates and indeed all immigration advocates in this economic climate.

  69. Dirk February 13, 2012 at 12:44 pm #

    As I have said to anyone who will listen: WE are the terrorists!!

  70. Neon Vincent February 13, 2012 at 12:44 pm #

    “[T]he next John Brown moment”
    I

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  71. mow February 13, 2012 at 12:46 pm #

    Best post ever

  72. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 12:47 pm #

    Ozone can’t wait until the Blacks start rioting here. He’ll join right in.

  73. Dirk February 13, 2012 at 12:49 pm #

    My significant other gave me so much grief last night as she watched the Grammies and said she ‘felt sorry for me’ that I did not enjoy the show; said how can you, a musician, not like this? I said it is BECAUSE I am a musician that I do not like this! Not to mention I’m thinking about something ELSE we could be watching with some redeeming intellectual value. God help us.

  74. Neon Vincent February 13, 2012 at 12:50 pm #

    Sorry, hit the wrong key.
    “The next John Brown moment” is straight out of Strauss and Howe’s The Fourth Turning and Generations. It’s considered to be the crisis catalyst for the Civil War. This makes two references to the Fourth Turning in a month. I’ll make a note of that on Crazy Eddie’s Motie News this week, as well as on The Fourth Turning Forums, where your last mention of the concept started a discussion thread. Keep reading the books; they’ve been very useful in predicting the general shape of the past 20 years and should be helpful for the next 60.
    As for my own blogging, I celebrated Darwin Day yesterday, noted how climate change has resulted in a very mild winter so far, and kept throwing spitwads at the corn pone fascists. Happy Motoring, for now, from Detroit!
    http://crazyeddiethemotie.blogspot.com/

  75. San Jose Mom 51 February 13, 2012 at 12:51 pm #

    Inspite of all the troubles, local governments are busy, busy, busy making little annoying laws.
    Los Angeles County passed a law making a $200 fine for playing with a frisbee or football on the beach. The only balls allowed are volleyballs. Also, if you dig a hole in the sand deeper than 18 inches, you will get a big fine. The nanny state has to keep everyone safe.
    On another note, a guy in San Jose was wearing red while taking his 7 lb. Yorkie for a walk. (Wrong color–Norteno or Surano) Some guys from across the street doing a carwash to raise funds for their friend’s funeral (a 20-year old gangster got shot) came over and beat the shit out of the dog owner and killed the little dog. No one around is willing to ID the bad guys because they know they could get beat up or killed.

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  76. Kurt Cagle February 13, 2012 at 12:51 pm #

    At the time, the insurrection wasn’t seen as anything beyond one of many political flashpoints, it was ironically a song commemorating the event (to the tune of what would become the Battle Hymn of the Republic) that started out “John Brown’s body lies a-mouldering in his grave,”, a marching song from the Massachusetts 12th regiment that became a rallying anthem for Union troops, that served to fan the flames of war.
    The Irish borrowed money largely at the insistence of US tech companies (Microsoft being the big one) that were looking for cheap, skilled, non-unionized European labour. The buildup of infrastructure necessary to support this was seen at the time as an investment in the future, but as this was being done, the investment vultures of Goldman Sachs et al., urged the development of new (expensive) housing for all of the up and coming Microsoft millionaires. When the tech bubble collapsed, the need for Irish MacMansions disappeared over night, the few wealthy bankers and tech veeps hightailed it back to London, leaving the Irish gov’t and tax payers holding the bag – a saga that was then repeated throughout Europe.
    Ireland will survive, just as Iceland has, because they are an Insular People who have become used to self-sufficiency. In many respects, letting their lands go fallow and burying the sparkly tech past may be the best thing they CAN do, because it means that as the rest of Europe collapses, they’ll already have adapted, and will likely miss out on the upcoming wars. The rest of us will likely not be so lucky.

  77. Rhino February 13, 2012 at 12:52 pm #

    To BeantownBill
    “Right on, Rhino. You and me are on the same wavelength here. I have nothing against liberal/progressives, even socialists. I just don’t get along with supercilious people of any political, economic and philosophical stripe.” – BTB last week
    I don’t get along with them either.
    People have a right to think what they want and say what they want. Personally I have a distaste for both “ends” of the political spectrum. IMO both ends are leading us down the path to destruction. On the “right” they argue for what experience shows to be against the interests of the vast majority. They believe in unfettered free markets. “Unfettered free markets” are “good”. Good for who exactly? Does “unfettered” mean you get to lie like hell, commit gigantic frauds and walk away? We can see the cumulative results over the last 40 years. Are they “good”? Maybe for the 1%.
    On the so-called “progressive” side, can we say that society has “progressed”? Maybe by some measures and for some people. Yet look at where things are at, the divorce rate, the rate of family breakdown and the misery that comes out of that, the rate of single-motherhood, the rate at which boys are mentally checking out of the educational system, the rate of incarceration of black men. Have women’s lives improved? I look at how the women that I knew lived 40-50 years ago and I look at the women I know now. Is this “progress”? Seems to me that the personal anything goes-ism espoused by the “progressive” side, the abolition of standards of personal behavior (after all, who’s to say what’s “right” and “wrong”, doesn’t it all depend? Or so the thinkers think. And besides you don’t want to be seen as uptight, right maaan?) has taken us nowhere good. Both sides of the spectrum took the idea of individualism and personal liberty to absurd extremes. A pox on both their houses.

  78. bossier22 February 13, 2012 at 12:53 pm #

    Is there or is there not a difference between retired folks who at least think they have paid there way, and those who have been on public assistants their whole lives. Probably for several generations. I’m curious as to what you think.

  79. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 12:54 pm #

    You’re afraid of Christians with Guns? Those are the neighbors you’re going to want. You are hopeless. Go live near Blacks and Hispanics and just keep watching TV. I know that Blacks and Hispanics are usually Christian, but you were talking about Whites, right? You don’t hate Black or Hispanic Christians. Only Whites. But you’re not a racist? Only Conservatives can be racist? Get a dictionary and learn how to use it.

  80. Elrond Hubbard February 13, 2012 at 12:54 pm #

    Yup–had to read Jim’s missive to know we are surronded by bullshit–cant change anything outside of me own life so try to live my own with as much dignity and grace that i can muster.thats my solution…

    It’s sad that this attitude of helplessness and passivity about American dysfunction is so prevalent, but it’s also understandable. Everything about the way American élites operate is designed towards two ends: (1) to distract attention away from how things really work, and (2) to ensure that Americans are pre-inoculated with exactly that kind of defeatism when anyone tries to change #1, say by making a serious third-party run for political office.
    Much as I enjoy JHK’s rants, it’s clear that he doesn’t believe in even the possibility that politics could change in the U.S. peacefully or constructively. Instead, he writes ominously about forthcoming “convulsions” and nudges his readership into accepting a narrative of inevitable downfall and destruction. (Please note that I’m talking about his opinions about the political system, not the economic system, where I largely share his views.) In this way, instead of being part of a possible solution that might not require a violent revolution, Jim K. makes himself part of the dysfunction.

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  81. wagelaborer February 13, 2012 at 12:56 pm #

    The Superbowl and the Grammys are but tiny blips of distraction in our diet of bread and circuses.
    The biggest and most long-running and irrelevant circus of all would be the presidential election.
    Billions of dollars, millions of TV hours and trillions of words spent to convince us that it matters to us who our ruling overlords use to front their agenda.
    Talk about lack of reality!

  82. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 12:57 pm #

    Women are always taken in by pop culture. No resistance whatsoever. When they got the right to vote, America took another step towards destruction.
    Most men shouldn’t be voting either of course – if that’s any consolation to the ladies.

  83. bubbleheadMarc February 13, 2012 at 12:59 pm #

    Good post.
    “Is it not amazing the lack of comprehension, by the vast majority of humans, of the magnitude of the catastrophic forces over hanging the future of the earth?”
    Yes, in a sense it is amazing. But then just stop to think about the overwhelming majority of the population which has never truly escaped the built environment, not even to attend summer camp for a limited period, for instance. Of course most kids sent to camp remain at the base camp and never really get away to do any authentic camping. So the end result is that they have never observed or interacted with nature in the raw. Which is why they mistakenly think that the built environment can be perpetuated in its present form with only limited adjustments or fresh inputs.
    The fact is, the global warming dynamic currently operative contains multiple self reinforcing positive feedback loops which if not counter-acted will totally bake the entire planet rendering the surface virtually uninhabitable. As the warming trend accelerates massive quantities of sequestered carbon will be released not only from subaquatic methane hydrates but also from the soil, into which a great deal of carbon dioxide currently rests just waiting to be baked out! And to think that most are only worried about tail pipe emissions! But not to worry because in the long run we’re all dead anyway.

  84. ofthehands.com February 13, 2012 at 1:00 pm #

    If we’re lucky, the next John Brown will be a critical minority of citizens opting out of this national hallucination and beginning the long and unending work of rebuilding localities, reskilling, forming local economies, and so on.
    This is the sort of thing we need now and will need more of in the future, of course, and I imagine it’ll all speed up to a significant degree when all these political and financial shenanigans inevitably cause money to no longer get money. That’ll create a rough transition, indeed.
    We all need to stop pretending we’re rich and care-free. We’re very much so neither.
    Joel

  85. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 1:00 pm #

    Psychology also finds Blacks have a much lower IQ yet you don’t believe that yet you believe this. Maybe the rednecks are more in touch with reality than you are.

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  86. Rhino February 13, 2012 at 1:01 pm #

    yes….cheers, salud, na zdravje….

  87. bubbleheadMarc February 13, 2012 at 1:04 pm #

    Not only is your post true but it is self-evidently so to all but the most obtuse so congratulations on your unparalleled intellectual penetration and discernment. And never forget: alcohol prohibition came right on the heels of women being granted the vote. I will now don my wide brimmed hardhat to weather the shit-storm of verbal abuse about to emanate from posters of the fairer sex!

  88. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 1:05 pm #

    Hundreds have frozen to death in Europe, especially Eastern Europe. The Danube is frozen and coal cannot be shipped. In northern Italy wolves are threatening small towns.
    In any case, last week on of the original “signers” of the Global Warming Statement repudiated it completely. Maybe someone can provide a link. He was not the first and he will not be the last. The whole thing is a blatant attempt to consolidate power amongst the Global .1%.
    For my part I’m going to get a Flat Top and lead a torch lit march of Flat Top Zombies with pitchforks to your shop. We will demand that our Flat Tops be “touched up” and you will comply even if it takes all night.

  89. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 1:08 pm #

    You linked to my Black IQ post – a Freudian slip? Marc be careful! Thanks for the support though – we’ll fight them together grabbing an occasional breast here and there.

  90. Elrond Hubbard February 13, 2012 at 1:11 pm #

    Sure, there are some hotheads in Athens, rioting in the streets, burning the place down, but that’s to be expected. After all, thay can no longer retire at age 35 and have the Germans pay for it.

    There is a lot of glib horseshit spun in this forum by people who wish they could be as tartly funny as Jim Kunstler, and this is a pretty bad case of it. The myth that Greek workers are lazy is easily exploded. In 2010, Greeks worked an average of 2,109 hours per year, versus the OECD average of 1,749 and the U.S. average of 1,778.
    http://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=ANHRS
    Average age at retirement in Greece is 61, not 35. If you think that’s low, fine. If you think I’m a prig for pointing it out, also fine. But don’t just make shit up to suit your prejudices. You get a lot farther when the facts are on your side.
    http://seekingalpha.com/article/187774-a-review-of-retirement-ages-in-oecd-countries
    As Jim K. has observed, we have abandoned real standards in how we run our societies in favour of econometrics. Whatever is good is what raises GDP, and whatever doesn’t raise it is evil. Well, economics is not a morality play. The banks and investors who loaned hundreds of billions to Greece weren’t doing it out of the goodness of their hearts: they expected a return. In other words, they were following economic incentives just as Greek borrowers were doing when they bought cars, houses and vacations on credit they turned out not to be good for. Let’s hear how many snide words you have for the bankers who are now being made whole at enormous cost to EU taxpayers, not to mention the freedom and sovereignty of an entire country.

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  91. deni February 13, 2012 at 1:13 pm #

    Thanks for the look, Dirk. Appreciate it. It’s not strange anymore that most people have absolutely no conception of what awaits us. Talk about Karma. In any case, I’m a musician, too and long ago gave up trying to have a ‘hith’ and be famous and it was then that my music began to have meaning. As for the grammys – anytime more than two Americans get together and actually create something, the second thing they invariably create is an awards ceremony for their first creation. Good luck, man.

  92. Rhino February 13, 2012 at 1:14 pm #

    The way I look at it, money isn’t “lost” it changes hands. They say trillions are lost in stock market melt-downs like the tech bubble disaster in 2000. Prices came down and the folks that bought no-hope internet stocks will never get their investment back. But there were two sides to the trade and what someone lost someone else gained. The sellers of those no-hope stocks pocketed the buyers’ (suckers’) money.
    Same thing in this debt crisis. Lenders will get screwed out of their investment and they may never lend again, banks may fail and the pipelines that formerly directed funds from savers to borrowers may break. The money may stop flowing as it once did but the money doesn’t disappear.

  93. wagelaborer February 13, 2012 at 1:15 pm #

    Some jerk threw a frisbee onto my radio and broke the antennae, years ago at Huntington Beach. Screw them.
    Also, I remember my black co-worker warning me against going to one of my favorite diners in San Francisco, telling me that gangs were rampant, and wearing the wrong color could get me killed.
    My teacher relative scoffed. “You have to wear the wrong colors and have an attitude” he said.
    And he was right.
    As I’ve pointed out before, the majority of assault victims I get are frequently drunk and obnoxious. I wonder about the guy and his dog.

  94. deni February 13, 2012 at 1:15 pm #

    Hey, Impaler, Pop Culture = Successful marketing and that’s that.

  95. Mike Hunt February 13, 2012 at 1:17 pm #

    Vlad –
    Consider this for a moment… you just might be the next John Brown.
    MK

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  96. deni February 13, 2012 at 1:19 pm #

    Power To The Penis! Hard On!

  97. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 1:21 pm #

    Yes we know more all the time. You have a problem with that? If so, you are a barbarian. It’s natural to want to know.
    Yes Blacks seem more and more alien the more we know. East Asians have Neanderthal genes and are much closer to us. The Aboriginees do too but they are even dumber than the Blacks. They are the farthest from each other genetically of any two groups. So the Black skin is the least of it. There is far more to genetics than skin color.
    You have a Roman take on Life. Like Cato the Elder you distrust all that Greek intellectual stuff. You value works and deeds. It’s not the worst philosophy of life by any means. It is a bit crude but it does save one from many moral dangers that arise from higher culture. I can understand how you got this way from my own contact with our own mandarins – a despicable, arrogant lot.

  98. turkle February 13, 2012 at 1:22 pm #

    “When they got the right to vote, America took another step towards destruction.
    Most men shouldn’t be voting either of course – if that’s any consolation to the ladies.”
    Vlad is so conservative that he’s actually petrified.

  99. wagelaborer February 13, 2012 at 1:26 pm #

    We have faced this situations before, and FDR explained it well. Too bad that so many people believe that Obama is the kind of progressive that FDR was.
    From his first inaugural address-
    “In such a spirit on my part and on yours we face our common difficulties. They concern, thank God, only material things. Values have shrunken to fantastic levels; taxes have risen; our ability to pay has fallen; government of all kinds is faced by serious curtailment of income; the means of exchange are frozen in the currents of trade; the withered leaves of industrial enterprise lie on every side; farmers find no markets for their produce; the savings of many years in thousands of families are gone. 2
    More important, a host of unemployed citizens face the grim problem of existence, and an equally great number toil with little return. Only a foolish optimist can deny the dark realities of the moment.
    Yet our distress comes from no failure of substance. We are stricken by no plague of locusts. Compared with the perils which our forefathers conquered because they believed and were not afraid, we have still much to be thankful for. Nature still offers her bounty and human efforts have multiplied it. Plenty is at our doorstep, but a generous use of it languishes in the very sight of the supply. Primarily this is because the rulers of the exchange of mankind’s goods have failed, through their own stubbornness and their own incompetence, have admitted their failure, and abdicated. Practices of the unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men.
    True they have tried, but their efforts have been cast in the pattern of an outworn tradition. Faced by failure of credit they have proposed only the lending of more money. Stripped of the lure of profit by which to induce our people to follow their false leadership, they have resorted to exhortations, pleading tearfully for restored confidence. They know only the rules of a generation of self-seekers. They have no vision, and when there is no vision the people perish. 5
    The money changers have fled from their high seats in the temple of our civilization. We may now restore that temple to the ancient truths. The measure of the restoration lies in the extent to which we apply social values more noble than mere monetary profit. 6
    Happiness lies not in the mere possession of money; it lies in the joy of achievement, in the thrill of creative effort. The joy and moral stimulation of work no longer must be forgotten in the mad chase of evanescent profits. These dark days will be worth all they cost us if they teach us that our true destiny is not to be ministered unto but to minister to ourselves and to our fellow men. 7
    Recognition of the falsity of material wealth as the standard of success goes hand in hand with the abandonment of the false belief that public office and high political position are to be valued only by the standards of pride of place and personal profit; and there must be an end to a conduct in banking and in business which too often has given to a sacred trust the likeness of callous and selfish wrongdoing. Small wonder that confidence languishes, for it thrives only on honesty, on honor, on the sacredness of obligations, on faithful protection, on unselfish performance; without them it cannot live. 8
    Restoration calls, however, not for changes in ethics alone. This Nation asks for action, and action now. 9
    Our greatest primary task is to put people to work. This is no unsolvable problem if we face it wisely and courageously. It can be accomplished in part by direct recruiting by the Government itself, treating the task as we would treat the emergency of a war, but at the same time, through this employment, accomplishing greatly needed projects to stimulate and reorganize the use of our natural resources. 10
    Hand in hand with this we must frankly recognize the overbalance of population in our industrial centers and, by engaging on a national scale in a redistribution, endeavor to provide a better use of the land for those best fitted for the land. The task can be helped by definite efforts to raise the values of agricultural products and with this the power to purchase the output of our cities. It can be helped by preventing realistically the tragedy of the growing loss through foreclosure of our small homes and our farms. It can be helped by insistence that the Federal, State, and local governments act forthwith on the demand that their cost be drastically reduced. It can be helped by the unifying of relief activities which today are often scattered, uneconomical, and unequal. It can be helped by national planning for and supervision of all forms of transportation and of communications and other utilities which have a definitely public character. There are many ways in which it can be helped, but it can never be helped merely by talking about it. We must act and act quickly. 11
    Finally, in our progress toward a resumption of work we require two safeguards against a return of the evils of the old order; there must be a strict supervision of all banking and credits and investments; there must be an end to speculation with other people’s money, and there must be provision for an adequate but sound currency.” 12

  100. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 1:27 pm #

    Look around the room folks – everything you see has been created by men – mostly White Men at that. If it was up to women, we’d still be living in mud or grass huts.
    We need a new Holiday – an Appreciate Men Day. Whites can celebrate Appreciate White Men Day. Men are great. And women should remember and repent of their arrogance.

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  101. turkle February 13, 2012 at 1:28 pm #

    Maybe someone will provide a link for your unfounded, moronical assertions? AHAHAHAHA. Par for the course for you, I guess. Please, do my homework for me! I’m too dumb to use the Google!

  102. turkle February 13, 2012 at 1:31 pm #

    If that’s the case, Vlad, why are you such a sad loser with no accomplishments whose only purpose in life seems to be trolling Jim Kunstler’s blog?

  103. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 1:32 pm #

    Yes like Scalia, I’ll take my Constitution dead not “living”.

  104. MADMAX February 13, 2012 at 1:34 pm #

    Too bad for the Chinese; eating grain is one of the factors that have made Americans so fat. But you will never get corporate agri-business to admit this, since all they care about is enormous profits.

  105. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 1:35 pm #

    Oh sorry to tell you the Truth about your little god – Women. I was there too Turk. I’ve had to educate myself – pop culture wants you to do just as you’re doing. Why don’t you listen to an older, wiser man?

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  106. Rhino February 13, 2012 at 1:36 pm #

    Like Cato the Elder you distrust all that Greek intellectual stuff. – VK
    The Greek intellectual stuff is fine. I just don’t think anything is written in stone. I distrust people. They can be wrong and often are. So I take what is told to me with a grain of salt.
    Yes Blacks seem more and more alien the more we know. – VK
    When you say “we” who exactly do you mean?
    And when you say “Blacks” who are you talking about? Look at the average San. Look at the average Nigerian. Both are supposedly “black”. They don’t look the same to me.
    I would be a little bit careful with this overgeneralizing. Look at the wide range of skin tones among people considered “white”. Are they all “white”? Where do you draw the line? Look at the overlap in Eurasia between “white” Europeans and “yellow” Asians. There’s wide swathes of Asia where it’s tough to tell who is white and who isn’t.
    What I’m saying is this business about “race” is overblown. You’ve read no doubt that subsaharan “blacks” differ more from one another genetically than “white” Europeans differ from East Asians. So are White Europeans and East Asians really one and the same “race”? Does it even make any sense to talk about a “black” “race” given their genetic diversity?

  107. messianicdruid February 13, 2012 at 1:40 pm #

    “I don’t think the US of A will see it’s “John Brown Moment” until it is a rearview-mirror event.”
    Wasn’t “smoky joe” the guy that flew his C172 into the tax building in Ftworth? I didn’t see it but USAw it.

  108. messianicdruid February 13, 2012 at 1:42 pm #

    Maybe it was “aimlowjoe”.

  109. endofworld February 13, 2012 at 1:43 pm #

    not passive one bit-took control of my own life,my future–do not look to the god of govermint for solutions-helplessness? you took the opposite meaning of what i was trying to convey-but maybe that is all you wanted to see…

  110. SNAFU February 13, 2012 at 1:43 pm #

    “Im in LA..”
    My condolences; the last time I was in LA was back in the mid 80’s. It was a shit-hole then, (far too many humans living in a small space (my definition), likely has not improved in the ensuing 30 years.

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  111. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 1:52 pm #

    “We”? That included American Jews too, right? I mean Jews are 40% of the Billionaires and obviously share much of the blame. And they are very concentrated in Banking and Media – or haven’t you heard?

  112. SNAFU February 13, 2012 at 1:57 pm #

    From the keyboard of newworld: “How do you explain the low cognitive abilities of blacks, hispanics and Amerinds?”
    Abominable home lives, unsafe neighborhoods, piss poor schools, incessant marketing advertisements convincing them to desire shit products for the benefit of the MFWWAIC (0.1%)……
    MFWWAIC = mother fuckers what who are in charge
    Apparently you are incapable of comprehending the gist of the article which had not to do with the cause of low “g”, rather with the effects of.

  113. SNAFU February 13, 2012 at 2:00 pm #

    danke

  114. Al Klein February 13, 2012 at 2:02 pm #

    Vlad…
    I don’t get what you are intimating. Yes, at least theoretically I am an American because I was born in the US and I carry a US passport. I would also say that, unlike Mika, I beleive that the US was once a great country. Unfortunately that was a long time ago. Some would opine, with good reason, that the Civil War ended the US experiment with real freedom. It’s hard to determine when exactly we went “off the rails” so to speak. Others would say 1965 when the US changed its immigration rules so we could unload our distinctly American culture that evolved by that point and bask in Diversity (please note that I capitalize it so as to demonstrate the appropriate reverence.) In any case, to more fully answer your question, I consider myself primarily a taxpaying resident of the North American continent. I didn’t say citizen because, frankly, I’m not certain what that means any more.

  115. SNAFU February 13, 2012 at 2:05 pm #

    From the keyboard of Vlad: “Psychology also finds Blacks have a much lower IQ yet you don’t believe that yet you believe this.”
    I’ll pass along a similar comment to you as I did to newworld. Apparently your IQ is insufficient to enable you of comprehending the gist of the article which had not to do with the cause of low “g”, rather with the effects of.
    SNAFU

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  116. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 2:07 pm #

    Yes Race is a fuzzy set just as color is. So because pink gradually merges into red thefore it doesn’t exist? Is that the idea here? Doesn’t really make it, does it? Pink exists. Whites exist. Yes there are populations that are mixed East Asian and White. So? No doubt like any mongrel they share characteristics of both but lack their respective virutes in their purity. And lack their weaknesses in purity too perhaps.
    The Bushmen are considered a different race btw. But yes, the Negroes contain much genetic diversity. But have eneough in common to still be seen as a group. East Asians and Whites are more logically considered as two separate groups. Remember “Asian” is too broad since East Indians are Caucasians – our cousins if not our brothers.
    Aboriginess, New Guinea, etc are a different race too btw. They tend towards very low IQ and a high level of violence. They tend towards introversion and quiet though – very different from the noisy Negro.
    Whites traits are recessive indicative that we are the youngest race. Cross a Black and a White and you get a Black. Cross an East Asian and a White and you get something more like the Asian. We are being genocided and must protect our genotype. Walk around Central London and you wont see a White Face. Anyone else in Lagos or Tokoyo would call it genocide if it happened to them. Only we put a positive spin on the ugly fact.

  117. Elrond Hubbard February 13, 2012 at 2:07 pm #

    “Homophobia” a phoney activist invented word created for the purposes of attempting to semantically ignore the majority of society’s disgust at the promotion of homosexuality.

    Homophobia, n. “Hatred and fear of people who engage in private, consensual activity that a diminishing minority of people finds distasteful even to think about and concludes therefore must be eeeevil.”
    http://news.uchicago.edu/article/2011/09/28/americans-move-dramatically-toward-acceptance-homosexuality-survey-finds
    “Promotion” of homosexuality is pointless and no one does it. In fact, what has been promoted with great success in our lifetimes is long-denied civil rights and equality for people whose private lives are none of your damn business or mine.
    How much “promotion” would it take to make you try out this whole homosexuality “thing” that everyone’s talking about? The answer, of course, is that you wouldn’t do anything that wasn’t natural for you to do in the first place. Pierre Trudeau said “The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation”, and he was right. If you’re terribly disturbed by the thought that Right This Minute people are getting away with acts that were abominated by the auhors of Leviticus, maybe you can just take a deep breath and go play some Monopoly or something. I’m sure the bad feeling will go away.

  118. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 2:13 pm #

    Yes the opening of our borders in 1965 was the greatest triumph of American Jewry, the result of decades of dedicated labor. Once effected, the destruction of America was assured. It was greater than the Federal Reserve Act which can at least theoretically, be reversed. Once the blood of the founding race is attenuated, the Nation is finished. The future of “The United States” now is just as a Brazil North.

  119. Elrond Hubbard February 13, 2012 at 2:13 pm #

    Alas, ’tis true – my home and native land is succumbing to the Resource Curse. Here’s a bitter joke (all the more bitter because it’s for real) from a few months back: the town of Fort McMurray, Alberta, which if you don’t know is THE oil sands boomtown, has been making plans for future growth. They foresee a day when the number of commuters to the oil patch will overwhelm local roads. The proposed solution? An LRT.
    That’s right, an LRT to the oil sands. I laugh, that I may not weep.

  120. MADMAX February 13, 2012 at 2:14 pm #

    Ireland just recommended that their young folk emigrate to Australia, where the jobs and good life are. Crikey!

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  121. anti soak February 13, 2012 at 2:18 pm #

    Whats going on in Eire?
    [Im more than 1/2 Irish DNA].
    Also this is whats going on in UK:
    Locked in a cellar where she was allegedly raped and beaten for nearly a decade, a young deaf and mute Pakistani woman told a U.K. court on Monday how she was trafficked into Britain and forced to work as a virtual slave.
    The woman, whose age is not known, said she was around 10 when she was brought to the northern city of Manchester as a domestic servant in 2000. She cannot be identified for legal reasons.
    A Pakistani couple — 83-year-old Ilyas Ashar and his wife, 66-year-old Tallat Ashar — are charged with false imprisonment, human trafficking, sexual offenses, violence and benefit fraud. Both have pleaded not guilty to the charges……………………………………………………………………..
    muslims and slavery..hahahahahah

  122. anti soak February 13, 2012 at 2:19 pm #

    DO YOU KNOW THERE ARE ONLY 2 [TO MY KNOWLEDGE]
    COUNTRIES WITH ANCHOR BABY STATUTES?
    USA and Ireland.

  123. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 2:20 pm #

    Great article by a conservative genius about the failure of the Church.
    http://ricochet.com/main-feed/American-Catholicism-s-Pact-With-the-Devil

  124. LaughingAsRomeWasBurningDown February 13, 2012 at 2:22 pm #

    The “papers please” law is unconstitutional at best, and doesn’t really defend *anything* except finding a scapegoat for those unemployed drywall hangers that JHK mentions now and then. Plus, more crops will go unharvested and your food will cost more when it’s imported from Mexico or someplace as a result.
    And those rewriting history by taking all mention of “slavery” out of school textbooks sure seem like nazis to me. Are you a nazi, too?

  125. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 2:27 pm #

    Redistribution of wealth is not charity. It is not Christian because it is not voluntary. The “givers’ gain no merit therefore, and the recipients feel no gratitude since it was not a personal gift.
    And even in the case of a personal gift: giving is an art and can easily engender a feeling of inferiority in the reciever and therefore hatred for the giver. Liberals can’t understand why Minorities feel more and more hatred the more they get. So they just move away from them and ignore it. Look and see: the Blacks and Brown have one hand out and the other clenched in a fist. Poor Whites now are becoming the same with rising levels of crime, welfare, and illegitimate births.

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  126. anti soak February 13, 2012 at 2:27 pm #

    ‘You’re afraid of Christians with Guns?’
    Not I, I am wary of Crazies with guns, goin postal.

  127. anti soak February 13, 2012 at 2:34 pm #

    Its much worse now….very crowded and ‘ethnic’.
    Do you remember the ‘Bluffs’ north of SM Pier?
    Fulla homeless and Russians and Iranians now.
    Traffic jams on the streets as well as the freeways.
    Yet ‘they’ say Cali will be 50 million in a few more decades.
    Water is cleaned up sewage in some areas.

  128. Hugh Culliton February 13, 2012 at 2:34 pm #

    It’s probably because of my MA in War Studies, but whenever I hear the phrase “American Exceptionalism” used in a sincere way by supposedly sincere people, my bullshit proximity alarm goes off. The BSPA’s been squaking alot these days. Perhaps it is always so with empires, that they can never see that as with every other empire in human history, they too have an expiry date. Thus, no empire is able to prepare for reality, because they are cognitively incapable of seeing it, let alone determining some measured responses for mitigating its effects. Thus, in some ways (emphasis on some) it might be good for America to elect Santorum as Prez – good like quickly ripping duct tape of a hairy chest is “good” compared to slowly peeling it off. It would allow America to hit bottom much quicker and therefore start to deal with reality that much quicker. That, unfortunately, would be the only good thing to come from the Ahiatollah-in-a-Sweater-vest being elected.
    I’m going to go listen to Leonard Cohen now, even he can cheer me up these days.

  129. anti soak February 13, 2012 at 2:37 pm #

    No you are!
    And theres a huge cost to ‘cheap’ labor!

  130. Hugh Culliton February 13, 2012 at 2:38 pm #

    Yes, but it can be argued that Rome left the world a far greater legacy than the US ever will: concrete or cheeze doodles? Suburbia or Roman Roads?

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  131. Elrond Hubbard February 13, 2012 at 2:38 pm #

    Vlad is so conservative that he’s actually petrified.

    You shouldn’t slander the good name of conservatism by associating it with the likes of Vlad. Conservatism is about preserving existing value in society. Vlad is actually a deeply radical reactionary, not a conservative. He would overthrow the Enlightenment and discard all the accumulated value of the past quarter millennium, if he could. That’s the opposite of a conservative.

  132. wagelaborer February 13, 2012 at 2:39 pm #

    Heh, heh. It’s really best not to picture anyone that you know having sex.
    I remember a particularly unattractive (physically and personality-wise) co-worker.
    Someone told me that she was a lesbian, and we both said “Oh, I don’t want to picture that”.
    But, said my informant, she’s thinking about going straight. Again, we both said “Oh, I don’t want to picture that”.
    It also works with your parents. Don’t picture that. It will be sure to disgust you. But I’ve never heard anyone saying that people shouldn’t reproduce because it will gross their kids out.
    I agree with you that it’s best to consider people’s sex lives their own business, as long as they don’t do it in the street and frighten the horses.
    But in the commodified world we live in, in which so many human needs can’t be met without State sanction of relationships, it is very wrong to deny gay people their right to buy such a license.

  133. anti soak February 13, 2012 at 2:41 pm #

    Amazing how Wagelaborer can rationalize violence on whites by criminal non whites, eh?
    Guess no one told her about the 30 to 40k black on white rapes here in the USD, maybe she can blame the victims.

  134. anti soak February 13, 2012 at 2:43 pm #

    3 in 4 black babies are born to single mothers.
    Prior to MLK canonization this was not so.
    How do YOU explain that my dear?

  135. Hugh Culliton February 13, 2012 at 2:44 pm #

    Agreed! However, “Fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt”!

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  136. newworld February 13, 2012 at 2:47 pm #

    Do you honestly believe that Blank Slate nonsense you spout? And Jim wonders why this country is going to hell. This country spends more on black, hispanic and Amerind education than they do on whites and they still fail, massively and yet you still blame whites.
    This anti-white nonsense is evil. Now I can understand the low IQ taking to it, but a college educated white person taking to it is a sign of severe mental illness.

  137. wagelaborer February 13, 2012 at 2:50 pm #

    She didn’t specify the race, anti. I wouldn’t assume that the victim was white.
    And I’m not justifying violence, no matter what the provocation.
    As a woman told the police, who were questioning her as to why she shot my patient in the groin
    “He was aggravating me”.
    Now I frequently tell my husband “You’re aggravating me.”
    But I’ve never shot him.
    Most people don’t resort to violence, and I think that that is a sign of a civilized person.

  138. jackieblue2u February 13, 2012 at 2:51 pm #

    Can’t imagine a guy walking a little doggie with a bad attitude.
    also that is victim blaming.
    red is surrenos. think red hot pepper.
    blue is nortenos.
    it does matter if you are wearing those colors even if you don’t have an attitude.
    it is about Them not you or your attitude.
    that’s what i think. killing an animal is sick also.
    i don’t care if the guy did have an attitude.

  139. turkle February 13, 2012 at 2:53 pm #

    “Prior to MLK canonization this was not so. How do YOU explain that my dear?”
    Are you trying to correlate the two? FAIL. Correlation is not causation. I can correlate global warming with, say, the decline in numbers of pirates. Thus, pirates prevented global warming. You see the problem?

  140. turkle February 13, 2012 at 2:54 pm #

    “This country spends more on black, hispanic and Amerind education than they do on whites”
    So, um, do you actually have a source for that rather bold assertion or did you just do the usual CFN drill and pull it out of your keister? 🙂

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  141. jackieblue2u February 13, 2012 at 2:55 pm #

    surrenos = red
    nortenos = blue
    i believe.
    where charles bronson when ya need him?

  142. Kurt Cagle February 13, 2012 at 2:55 pm #

    In a zero-sum world, you’re exactly right – if someone loses money, someone else makes money, and at the end of the day, if everyone balanced out their ledgers, the amount of money should end up being the same. However, it’s a world that bankers hate, because money is exchanged for goods or services, and if a banker buys land or goods, they reduce the amount of money that they have while enriching someone else.
    In a credit based economy, on the other hand, banks create credit by placing a lien on future earnings on a given revenue stream to the person who take out a loan, then add in a percentage to that loan to compensate for the risk. The bank can further leverage their base capital because in “normal” times, the likelihood that they will have to liquidate positions (where investors into the bank all need to take out their capital at once) is small, and the money being paid back into their accounts, plus interest, more than sufficiently allows them to make additional loans.
    This means in practice that banks are creating new money (via interest) while at the same time hedging (using leverage) to turn a small amount of money into a much larger amount of credit. When banking is done responsibly, such a system can work for a while, but it means comparatively small profits for the investors. Over time, what ends up happening is that loans become more and more reckless, especially as regulatory oversight becomes lax.
    What happened in the 2008 housing bubble was that banks created loans that were almost guaranteed to fail, pocketed the healthy fees (often nearly as much as they would have made from the interest) and then sold the loans to a repackager who would in turn bundle loans together. Even though the repackager knew that the banks were creating worthless loans, but as the repackager in turn sold these loans to other investors they were perfectly happy to declaim this crap as the choicest loans on the market.
    In effect, the loans were made out of thin air and then quickly sold into the system so that accounting system wouldn’t realize (or admit) that there was no real revenue stream backing the loans. This meant that people with a $50,000 a year income were purchasing $600,000 dollar homes that with interest became $1M+ dollar homes, in great part because housing prices had been so dramatically inflated that these houses (which once probably cost $150,000 or less) were the “low end” of the market, and the rising bubble had driven rentals out of the market.
    What all this is leading to is that money was fabricated via financial chicanery and lax government with no dependable revenue streams to buttress it. (There’s also a peak oil explanation about how an oil peak also corresponds to a total credit peak, but I won’t get into that here – this is already too long). Certain banks were able to make a killing on transaction fees while sticking toxic assets to other investors, which of course meant the money invested also effectively disappeared into a small black hole.
    However, the problem with a black hole is that once it is created, it tends to devour everything within gravitational reach, though not all that once. Ownership of assets become murky. Trust breaks down. Bankers begin to become panicky as their investors pull out and the house of cards come tumbling down, and panicking people do stupid and dangerous things. That’s where we are now.
    I don’t believe there are trillionaires out there. I believe instead that there are a lot of people who now have pieces of paper saying they own the same assets or resources, and only one person will get the actual asset – all other claims essentially vaporize, because the person who sold the asset in the first place used the money to pay off other debts (or more likely the interest from those debts), or to cover shortfalls when his investors all withdrew their own funds.
    At the end of all this, a massive amount of money that did not exist before will not exist again.

  143. Bustin J February 13, 2012 at 2:57 pm #

    On my college campus (a place of higher learning where knowledge is the ultimate value) there has been a flood of Mammon. Commerce corrupts wherever it flows. If society thinks academia will come to its rescue- think again. Academia is broken.
    Academia has been reduced to being a corporate entity. In order to stay alive, your public universities are now accepting enrolment from thousands of foreign students, mainly from China, but all over the world. These are mostly rich kids and hard studiers. The rich kids, a large contingent, have the money to be sent half the world away. Needless to say, not much studying gets done for this cohort.
    The studious ones, straight from the mainland, trained since birth to get straight A’s via public school corporal punishment, spend all day in the library. They look like they’re being worn down. They will produce many economic returns for Communist China.
    Who has the balls to stand up and say publicly what is happening here? Americans pay taxes to fund public schools, which are opened up to foreign students who can pay cash. School officials are forced to turn higher learning into a cash machine, a fund it all with taxpayer money.
    The 90s saw them winging strange little bundled development deals with the state- build or remodel a new building (with Eyesore Of The Day aesthetics) and get public funds. Local businesses benefit- Joe Hardhat and the team of idiot architects, LLC. The state gets to claim that economic activity occurred. Taxes are collected. Some black ink splashes on a sea of red ink. Now those POS buildings need ongoing maintenance and resources.
    The summer school programs weren’t enough so they’ve brought in enough kids from Asia and South America to displace more than 15% of the population. They are loud, obnoxious, speak 4 different languages and are not at all interested in mingling with Americans. Campus is a babble of farsi, mandarin, and spanish. There is little evidence of their cultures’ enriching effect, unless you are a local mall retailer. They hang around “learn English” and spend money like its going out of style- on novelties like cheap fast food, cigarettes, and bottled water.
    These kids stand WAY out from the crowd, with their permanent vacation kind of attitude. They have no connection with the community or anyone else. The ‘vacation’ is accessorized with the beach-bum fashions of Hollister, American Eagle, D&C, Mossimo, Abercrombie and Fitch. The American students look like Americans, well, some of them.
    And their brass is here, to collect on American debt by buying American Assets. Its the double-edged sword of global capitalism. Now they get to rape and pillage our natural resources.
    America is an open society- the Internet is an extension. The Chinese love it. They can send a million “tourists” here to delve through American libraries for scientific knowledge.

  144. asoka. February 13, 2012 at 3:00 pm #

    “I beleive that the US was once a great country.”
    ==================
    Al Klein, your statement is representative of many on CFN, mostly older white men who think they’ve lost their country, and your lack of patriotism is sad.
    I love the USA. The USA is still a great country, with a great future. The USA was founded on an ideal and that ideal has not been tarnished in the least. Your lack of patriotism is sad.
    You make reference to some golden past when you believe American used to be great. For many on CFN that past is represented by the 1950s, a time when whites ruled, segregation and Jim Crow ruled, and Blacks suffered a reign of terror. That is when you think American was still a great nation, and that is sad.
    A Black woman in the 1950s had very little social mobility. Things have changed for the better and now a Black woman has much more opportunity for advancement and much more possibility to contribute to the nation.
    America is still a great nation because America still has ideals and strives to live up to them.
    Electing a Black president, whatever you think of Obama, shows that the nation still has faith in those ideals. A nation composed of white collar, blue collar, all ethnic groups, all races, all came together in the hope of a better future. It doesn’t matter that they have been disappointed … the nation is still a great nation and is not belittled by the shortcomings of its leaders.
    I am sorry to be lecturing you (and others on CFN) on your lack of patriotism, but I’m just tired of all the America bashers who say “America was once a great country” and disrespect the people who form this still great country.
    A patriot respects all the nation’s people (including all the immigrants), with all their diversity. That is what makes us strong and vibrant. That is what makes love of America means.
    I’m just tired of all the America haters who say “America was once a great country” and think that greatness was in the past.
    That supposed great past was a past in which large segments of the population were ignored, manipulated, abused, and lynched.
    In that past people of a different sexual persuasion (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgendered) had to hide themselves or risk being beaten to death.
    In that past women and Blacks did not have a vote or a voice.
    In that past the environment was just “raw material” for wealth creation and nobody had any inkling of the importance of permaculture or a true connection with Gaia.
    Al Klein, the USA of the 21st century is a great country, precisely because we have grown and matured and we have become more inclusive. America is a stronger country because it is now a more multicultural country.
    In the 60s and 70s I was pro-environment, anti-war, and pro-feminism. Many a time, when I spoke of social change, I was told: “America: Love it or Leave it.”
    That never made sense to me because I considered myself a patriot who was trying, nonviolently, to make this a better country. And I succeeded.
    I never thought gays would be able to enjoy the level of civil rights they have today, up to and including MARRIAGE. Not “civil unions”, not “domestic partnerships” … MARRIAGE just like the heterosexuals and with all the same rights.
    When I became a feminist in 1968, women were dying from coat hanger abortions. I fought for women’s rights and celebrated Roe v. Wade (1973) legalizing abortion throughout the United States.
    In the 1960s women tended to pursue female-intensive occupations such as teaching and social work, and more men than women graduated. I never imagined I would see a time like today, when more women are graduating from universities than men, and women are entering any profession they want.
    When I began to read about yoga in the 60s I never imagined yoga would become a national pastime and yoga studios would be everywhere, even in little rural towns like where I live.
    When I was creating an organic food coop in the 60s, I never thought big chain stores would one day be selling organic food, and the coop movement and farmers’ market movement would grow and blossom beyond what I could imagine.
    When I was reading Kumar Satish in the 70s, I never imagined that his ideas on disarmament, nonviolence, and ecology would flourish and that I would live to see such unity of peoples as I have seen and experienced and enjoyed these last 40 years.
    All these positive changes have come about in the last 50 years with the result of making the USA an even greater nation than it was in the past.
    Now I ask you, Al Klein: if you believe the USA sucks, why do you stay here?
    I love the USA and all its peoples (including those called “undocumented”). I love all of the USA with all its diversity.
    I am a true patriot, a true American, in the vein of Walt Whitman and Woody Guthrie. This land is our land, Black and white and red and yellow all together … our land. A great land.

  145. wagelaborer February 13, 2012 at 3:01 pm #

    You’re right, Jackie.
    It is always wrong to kill a dog, no matter who is walking it.

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  146. Glensufi February 13, 2012 at 3:03 pm #

    I believe the general consensus here is correct and the inertia in all the systems involved is probably far too great for us to avoid some very difficult if not catastrophic times. Having said that I prefer not to withdraw into a Cormack McCarthy future waiting for the end of times. Lots of talent on this board and out there so we should take our cues from Solar Guy and others to do what we can, no matter how seemingly inconsequential, to turn the Titanic. And so ends the sermon for today.

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  148. wagelaborer February 13, 2012 at 3:08 pm #

    But I can’t believe that you believe that if you go outside wearing red or blue, that some gang member will shoot you.
    Do you really never wear red or blue?
    Aren’t you afraid that your screen name will get you killed?

  149. welles February 13, 2012 at 3:17 pm #

    When the Asian economies start looking sick then the Sh*t will really start hitting the fan
    the powers can stay solvent forever, they simply print money, and they can and will continue to kick the can almost forever.
    they have lots more room than you surmise.
    bottom line is that folks around the very developed world will just get used to living on less, earning less and doing less things…
    don’t look for any wwiii moments igniting all of a sudden
    peace peaceniks

  150. Greg February 13, 2012 at 3:30 pm #

    JHK –
    Harper’s Ferry is in West Virginia…not Virginia.

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  151. Hammering Truth February 13, 2012 at 3:31 pm #

    Greece is burning while the IMF fiddles. http://youtu.be/i1zkHpcfeTk

  152. deni February 13, 2012 at 3:34 pm #

    Well, I’m sure glad yoga’s made headway and organic food has infiltrated our lives, yet it seems to me that the more the “ME” generation makes others meet its organic demands, more human beings perish elsewhere: I believe your litany of wonderful accomplishments began in the nineteen sixties, so did the slaughter of three million Vietnamese, Cambodians and Laotians. And just as yoga was beginning to take hold in the seventies and eighties so were those death squads in Central and South America and when the nineties rolled around there weren’t many other people left to murder in S.A. and Asia so we switched to the Mideast where there was plenty of waiting blood for our bottomless thirst (Yoga is so very exhausting one needs to be refreshed with fluids frequently). And the toll mounts. If we measure it as progress, we’re now successfully murdering women and children with impunity as there are very few peeps of protest or resistance to these madmen and their unquenchable hunger for death. But yoga must go on and so must organic food, but if these are the prices we must pay, I’ll stick with what comes out of our backyard. It’s the great BLIND SPOT of most idealists and lovers of our shining democracy: The nameless, faceless and hidden are the ones paying the ultimate price for that yoga class and that trip to the organic market. Someone paid heavily, very heavily, for our abundant Living Large lifestyle and it wasn’t us. However, that is about to change as when fresh flesh begins becoming scarce, the beast begins consuming itself. Yeah, yeah, don’t bother. I know I’m a bummer.

  153. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 3:57 pm #

    All the more reason for the sanies (not zanies) to have more guns than the crazies.

  154. ak February 13, 2012 at 4:07 pm #

    CF: – it’s not difficult to ‘link’ in this blog.
    The simplest way is just to include the website’s address, including the http on the beginning (without the http it isn’t clickable)
    The address itself is normally visible in the top part of your browser, but some newer ones (esp. on tablet/phone) may hide it. Eg, in Firefox: View->Toolbars->Navigation — if you don’t see any menu options, try F11 first.
    So once you have the address, hi-light it, right-click & select copy (or Ctrl-v), then in the comment text-box: right click and paste (or Ctrl-c)
    You can practice in one of the old blog entries…
    kunstler.com/blog
    http://kunstler.com/blog
    –alpha-kilo

  155. loveday February 13, 2012 at 4:08 pm #

    Wow
    Clusterfuckers are exceeding even their high level of boring racism and divisiveness this week. And by doing so completely obliterate Jim’s message that things aren’t great around the good old USA and the world. Wake up children, stop bickering and drink a very strong cup of coffee, you are definitely gonna need it. Things are set to get rougher very soon. The Baltic Dry Index is around 700, pretty low, that index reflects international trade around the world. Get it? Economic activity is slowing down to 2008 levels only this time the cushion that existed then is gone. No savings for most, no unemployment for many, social programs being cut universally, in short the fat has pretty much been cut out. So the next downturn, war or crisis will result in real hunger, homelesness and pain for many people world wide.
    Meanwhile Obummer continues to cater to his base, the same base GW catered to. The super rich. So don’t look to government to provide solutions, they won’t. Pull your thumb out, stop the hatred and do something productive. Like buy seeds for a garden.

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  156. San Jose Mom 51 February 13, 2012 at 4:11 pm #

    I love dogs. Apparently the victim didn’t need to go to the hospital…but the Yorkie was his constant companion so he is heartbroken.
    Our family recently acquired the cutest little Maltese puppy. She’s 15 weeks old and weighs two pounds. She’s a darling, little white puffball. My daughter named her Lola.

  157. metuselah February 13, 2012 at 4:14 pm #

    The Baltic Dry Index is around 700, pretty low, that index reflects international trade around the world.
    ==
    No, it doesn’t. It reflects the oversupply of ships, big ships, that were built during the credit boom.

  158. bossier22 February 13, 2012 at 4:24 pm #

    many think it is much coarse society now than in the 1950’s. I can see where an african/american would not agree with this. for many in the under class of any race it is a rougher place to live now.
    think back to the st valantines day masacre. a famous iconic event. Why? Because it was so rare. now something like it happens every day and it barely registers.

  159. newworld February 13, 2012 at 4:33 pm #

    Jim should ask how a country that is ruled by an elite that professes for the PC religion could be ruled other than thru fraud. How can the Blank Slate Theory be funded except thru fraud, the communists were frauds their economic system a fraud, now it our turn.

  160. newworld February 13, 2012 at 4:37 pm #

    Study out of Georgia that was to try and figure out why the white kids were doing better on the standardized tests. So the researchers looked at school funding and found that the black kids had more spent on them and they were still way behind the white kids.
    You won’t believe that because you believe in the stupid mysticism of White Skin Privilege and other frauds. Worse, you like JHK can’t understand why everything in this country is a fraud. Well it has to be, just like the USSR a fraud maintained by fraud.

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  161. malthus February 13, 2012 at 4:39 pm #

    Well we certainly all have one. Maybe it was that damned Hitler that got the ball rolling for the technology runaway and it hasn’t stopped sense. Along with highways to one city after another all looking pretty much the same and homogenized to the hilt just waiting to for the dream to come true. Meanwhile people are fleeing in great numbers to other places in the world taking their prejudices, attitudes, and believes with them. Calling themselves expats but always keeping in touch with the old country and believing themselves to be smarter and superior than the average bear stuck in the wasteland that once was but never really was. Some fun. The whole system world wide has gone pathological and the planet has become one big insane asylum.

  162. bubbleheadMarc February 13, 2012 at 4:44 pm #

    Just like Sam Kineson said to Rodney Dangerfield in his college history class in the movie “Back to School” I like the way you think. And yes, not only do I have an asshole but to a certain extent I am one as well. Recently while skimming the offerings in the ER Hamilton Bookseller catalogue I even espied a book on how to be an asshole. I figured “why buy such a book when I could write my own on the same subject.”

  163. anti soak February 13, 2012 at 4:45 pm #

    On my college campus…Which? or where?
    Did you see my post a few days ago about the scandal at Iowa, 400 degrees awarded folks didnt deserve….all to Chinese and Russians.
    The guy who worked at school then went and killed himself.

  164. metuselah February 13, 2012 at 4:46 pm #

    the communists were frauds
    ==
    Our whole reality is a fraud. The communists were just another hologram created by the same people that gave us the nazism, the islamo-fascism, yankee imperialism, etc. Only, you don’t see the nazism, islamo-fascism, and yankee imperialism as frauds, because you’ve been emotionally conditioned to perceive a dialectic difference between these holograms when in fact there is none.

  165. bubbleheadMarc February 13, 2012 at 4:55 pm #

    Thanks for the warning. Tomorrow I will give Denny the Redneck a daylong seminar on flattops then we’ll stencil a giant sign in the front window which says “FLATTOPS $18”. I have been concentrating especially hard on my flattops and am now nearly as good as the old Greek guy Gus. I still hate little kids though. If they act like they’re being dragged to the electric chair when they come in I still refuse to wait on them, telling their mommies “I’m too sensitive to do forced haircuts on little boys.”

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  166. ak February 13, 2012 at 5:11 pm #

    Greg –
    when (and why) did West Virginia come to existence?
    W!

  167. messianicdruid February 13, 2012 at 5:49 pm #

    “Wake up children, stop bickering and drink a very strong cup of coffee, you are definitely gonna need it.”
    This country is in for a heck of a hangover.

  168. turkle February 13, 2012 at 6:08 pm #

    “You won’t believe that because you believe in the stupid mysticism of White Skin Privilege and other frauds. Worse, you like JHK can’t understand why everything in this country is a fraud.”
    You’re a real mind reader, aren’t you?

  169. bubbleheadMarc February 13, 2012 at 6:47 pm #

    Bibliography of assholism:
    [1] ASSHOLE: How I Got Rich & Happy by Not Giving a Damn About Anyone & How You Can Too by Martin Kihn
    [2] ASSHOLES FINISH FIRST by Tucker Max

  170. malthus February 13, 2012 at 7:06 pm #

    Humans are cosmic apparatuses for the transformation of food, said asshole is a necessary part of the apparatus.

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  171. SNAFU February 13, 2012 at 7:17 pm #

    From the keyboard of antisoak: “scandal at Iowa, 400 degrees awarded folks didnt deserve….all to Chinese and Russians.””The guy who worked at school then went and killed himself.”
    Antisoak is unable to resist confirmation of the contention promoted in the APS article I linked to up post. At Dickinson State University, just 10 of the 410 foreign students awarded joint degrees since 2003 actually fulfilled all required course work. True they were Chinese and Russian unfortunately DSU is in North Dakota. From Anti’s contention one would be led to believe a single person provided all at DSU. The Dean of the Business School did commit suicide after the revelations hit the news outlets. Not all of the affected students were Business majors.
    SNAFU

  172. Widespreadpanic7 February 13, 2012 at 7:24 pm #

    Got my honey a sweet little Remington carbine for St. Valentines Day; tied a red bow around the barrel. Sure hope she likes it!
    –WSP7

  173. Widespreadpanic7 February 13, 2012 at 7:26 pm #

    I know, I know, I’m the last of the Romantics!
    –WSP7

  174. azgog February 13, 2012 at 7:32 pm #

    Everyone must embrace “austerity” (wages cut in half, pensions eliminated, taxes doubled (unless you are in the 1%, in which case they will be reduced), all so that the bankers can be repaid with profit. Not just in Greece, the same thing is happening here. Home values decimated, unaffordable health care, most decent jobs outsourced and only service jobs at less than a living wage are left. You are seeing the greatest transfer of wealth that has ever occurred, is anyone surprised that there is some resistance, some resentment of the 1%, some burning of buildings? Oh well, they’ll get over it, the police are on our side and we’ll soon have 30,000 drones in American skies just to keep an eye on any troublemakers.
    When the liquidation of the middle class is complete we will be presented with another well justified war to keep our minds off it and thin the herd. Once they have all the wealth they really don’t need an economy anyway and certainly don’t need to waste their money providing a social safety net, health clinics or public transit. Let them eat cheese doodles and die, we don’t give a fuck. They were just burning up our gas and clogging the freeway, we don’t need them any more in our brave new Richistan.

  175. San Jose Mom 51 February 13, 2012 at 7:42 pm #

    P.S. By the way, Wagelaborer, the 32-year-old guy who was walking the little Yorkie wasn’t a low-life. He is a fully-employed flooring installer. Walking a tiny dog doesn’t shout out to the world “make my day.”
    SJmom

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  176. Vlad Krandz February 13, 2012 at 8:04 pm #

    They hold the Tiger’s tail and dare not let go. To admit the obvious about Black IQ would be to admit that they are scoundrels and criminals. It would end America as the obvious destroyed the Soviet Union. Towards the end no one believed Communism was anything but crap.

  177. San Jose Mom 51 February 13, 2012 at 8:15 pm #

    I understand your point about little kids. My high-strung boy acted like I was leading him to an electric chair as a child. I usually tipped the barber $10 for putting up with his drama.

  178. SNAFU February 13, 2012 at 8:25 pm #

    From the esteemed keyboard of newworld: “Do you honestly believe that Blank Slate nonsense you spout?”
    I knew not of which I spouted until I looked up Blank Slate Theory. I do not contend that all we humans manifest is learned through experience; however, I am far from a Steven Pinker devote. Did you partake in the grade school, high school and possibly college experience? If so, why? As a member of the vastly superior white race were you not sufficiently endowed with innate intelligence to make your way in the world sans additional education?
    And these gems also leaped from newworlds keyboard: “This anti-white nonsense is evil. Now I can understand the low IQ taking to it, but a college educated white person taking to it is a sign of severe mental illness.”
    College educated; check, white; check, severe mental illness; naw, slightly insane, not severely, comes with the territory 🙂
    Ah additional confirmation that the writers of the APS article I previously linked to know whereof they speak. One who fails to toe the invisible line thrown down by the narrow minded and prejudicial is automatically cast into the lot with the “others” whom have been certified to be “anti-white” simply because they are “other”.
    My first wife, who likely was in the severe category, came up with pithy comments aplenty one of which is apropos here: “you are so narrow minded your eyes are located one above the other”.
    SNAFU
    P.S. Are you and Vlad brothers? If not surely you were suckled at the same teat.

  179. Pucker February 13, 2012 at 8:27 pm #

    JHK wrote: “Do you think the late Whitney Houston was a lost soul? Then look for the soul of your country – if you can find it in the wilderness of self-denial, self-double-dealing, and suicidal self-perfidy that it has blundered into with eyes wide shut. No lie is now too big for the United States to swallow.”
    I found an old copy of Robert Louis Stevenson’s “Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde” recently in the English language section of a bookstore in China, of all places.
    Believe it or not, I had never read it, so I read it this weekend. Great book! And not like the many movies.
    In the book, out of moral horror of myself, Jekyll eventually chooses to stop transforming himself chemically, and his conscious mind chooses to permanently remain “Dr. Jekyll”. But, his unconscious mind chooses to be “Mr. Hyde”, thus, leading to sudden unintended transformations without warning, and in his sleep.
    It seems that his chemical transformation was only possible because of some unknown “impurity” in one of the chemicals in the formula. In the end, he couldn’t replicate the formula.

  180. Pucker February 13, 2012 at 8:37 pm #

    Meanwhile, all of the mad financial scientists in the Federal Reserve and the ECB are all frantically trying to mix the chemicals to try to fix things before the enraged populous outside breaks down the down to pummel them to death.

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  181. SNAFU February 13, 2012 at 8:46 pm #

    From antisoak’s keyboard: “3 in 4 black babies are born to single mothers.
    Prior to MLK canonization this was not so.
    How do YOU explain that my dear?”
    I found no evidence that MLK has ever been canonized.
    SNAFU

  182. Qshtik February 13, 2012 at 9:09 pm #

    . and it hasn’t stopped sense.
    . taking their prejudices, attitudes, and believes with them.

    ===============
    . since
    . beliefs groan!

  183. DeeJones February 13, 2012 at 9:12 pm #

    You know, Jim should just call this the
    KKKlusterfuck Nation.
    Or dump Jaego/Vlad and his racist crap. It brings the whole tone, not to mention IQ of the discussion down to about a 8th grade level.
    Your choice, JimmyBob.
    Be seeing you – not!

  184. Qshtik February 13, 2012 at 9:19 pm #

    I am far from a Steven Pinker devote.
    =============
    devotee
    arrghh!

  185. trippticket February 13, 2012 at 9:43 pm #

    And here I thought you disappeared to read some good books. Too much to expect, I suppose….

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  186. trippticket February 13, 2012 at 10:18 pm #

    “Walking a tiny dog doesn’t shout out to the world “make my day.” ”
    It does in my world;)
    Hope things are well, Jen…

  187. Silverman8585 February 13, 2012 at 10:24 pm #

    This is my first time commenting. I have been a long time reader since 2004 when I first read The Long Emergency. It was very informative on my life. I have done many of the things Mr. Kunstler has offered. I have learned to love living more locally and have found much significance in it. I no longer rely on on petroleum to fuel my transportation. I ride a bicycle to work that I salvaged from the garbage. It was a perfectly good bicycle. It was being thrown out since it was considered obsolete. I actually prefer walking but a bicycle can be handy when you want to add a little thrill to your day. I could ramble on for hours about how this man has improved my life or I could just say this: James Howard Kunstler, you sir, are an excellent writer.

  188. asoka. February 13, 2012 at 10:28 pm #

    Hi Tripp!
    I went to a focus group sponsored by our county government tonight. They are developing a survey instrument to determine peoples’ needs. We are talking rural America, less than 50,000 in the whole county.
    I had no expectations, and I was very pleasantly surprised. These were the issues brought up by my concerned citizen neighbors, the most important issues they themselves identified without any written or verbal prompt: climate change, sustainability, and food security.
    Sometimes I wonder if changes in consciousness are happening among the general population. Now I can say they are.
    Rural Americans know what the problems are and even local governments are making efforts to increase awareness and enable action. Of course, the survey instrument itself will then become a further means of wider community education.
    I was very favorably impressed that, at this level of government (county), the officials want to work on solutions to what citizens themselves have identified as the most urgent issues: climate change, sustainability, and food security.
    I love this country and its people!

  189. trippticket February 13, 2012 at 10:29 pm #

    “If society thinks academia will come to its rescue- think again. ”
    Last I checked, you were the only one who believed in such nonsense. Ta-blah-blah, yes, not that interesting. Impressive language, sure. Got it.
    Signing off.

  190. malthus February 13, 2012 at 10:32 pm #

    O BooHoo, BooHoo. You are correct. I need to edit my comments more carefully. Thanks for point out the errors.

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  191. malthus February 13, 2012 at 10:34 pm #

    There it is again. Thanks for pointing out the errors.

  192. trippticket February 13, 2012 at 10:40 pm #

    That’s impressive, and obviously not where I live…these people here wonder what sort of Jewish conspriacy was at work to give the Superbowl to two Yankee squads. There’s no examination of the truth in the South, only tradition.

  193. asoka. February 13, 2012 at 10:54 pm #

    Upon further reflection I do remember about ten years ago the Green Party was very active here, with enough support to be on the ballot.
    The Green Party never won anything higher than town council seats (though that is important). b
    But now that I think about it, the campaigns the Green Party waged (pre-Obama), even they didn’t “win,” must have been effective at planting seeds.
    Again, I was amazed and pleased to hear neighbors who were strangers using language I felt very comfortable with, and find myself agreeing with them about the importance of the issues the focus group was identifying.
    Thanks for the reality check. I have never lived in the South, only visited relatives in Atlanta and Florida. Must be discouraging at times.

  194. Pucker February 13, 2012 at 10:57 pm #

    Happy Valentine’s Day!
    If any of the more sensitive males out there in Clusterfuck Nation are so inclined, please feel free to send a Valentine’s Day message to one of the women incarcerated at the maximum security Bedford Hills Correctional Facility for Women. I’m sure that they’d appreciate it. Thanks!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedford_Hills_Correctional_Facility_for_Women

  195. Qshtik February 13, 2012 at 11:08 pm #

    Hi Tripp!
    I went to a focus group sponsored by our county government tonight…
    =============
    …and they threw me out on my ass ’cause I’m black. Whatta country!!
    ;o)

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  196. Qshtik February 13, 2012 at 11:17 pm #

    I need to edit my comments more carefully. Thanks for point out the errors.
    =============
    pointing
    I will stop bothering you with my corrections now since proofreading is obviously not your thing.

  197. anti soak February 13, 2012 at 11:20 pm #

    In 2 words …Brian Stow:
    March 31, 2011, a 42-year-old Giants’ fan, Bryan Stow, of Santa Cruz, was critically injured when he was attacked by two Dodgers fans in the Dodger Stadium parking lot after the Dodgers and Giants opened the 2011 season. The suspects subsequently fled the scene in a vehicle driven by a woman.[24] Stow, a paramedic and father of two, sustained severe injuries to his skull and brain and was placed into a medically induced coma after the incident.[25]
    Louie Sanchez and Marvin Norwood were arrested and charged in the crime.[27] Lawyers for Stow say his medical care is expected to cost more than $50 milion……………………….
    [wiki]

  198. 120fsq28ik February 13, 2012 at 11:25 pm #

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  199. anti soak February 13, 2012 at 11:27 pm #

    What do folks say ]pause[
    about D.N.A.?????
    THE LEFT HAS NO PROBLEM WITH SAYING THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS GENETICALLY DETERMINED, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO LOW INTELLIGENCE OR CRIMINALITY, THEY HAVE A HARD TIME WITH ADMITTING THAT THESE ARE INHERITED.

  200. anti soak February 13, 2012 at 11:31 pm #

    ‘A Black woman in the 1950s had very little social mobility. Things have changed for the better and now a Black woman’
    Is that why Black women are less and less marrying black men?
    And whats with the downward mobility of black males?
    1/2 are unemployed
    1/2 are HS drop outs
    1 in 4 is a felon.
    So many have a rap sheet or are juvenile offenders.

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  201. anti soak February 13, 2012 at 11:32 pm #

    yr the best!

  202. Pucker February 13, 2012 at 11:37 pm #

    “…and they threw me out on my ass ’cause I’m black. Whatta country!!”
    Just keep insisting that you’re white….
    One of my best friends is a Cherokee Indian (Native American) who is convinced that he’s “white”.

  203. Qshtik February 13, 2012 at 11:53 pm #

    I love this country and its people!
    ================
    Every week or two Asoka takes off on a new tack. One week it’s a diatribe about the US being the only country to ever drop an atom bomb on its fellow man
    …and the next week it’s an economics lesson why there are no downsides to printing endless quantities of fiat money
    …and then he’s holed up in a mud hut near our southern border ready to bolt for South America when TSHTF.
    Well, this week it’s an abiding “love for this country and its people!”
    Sometimes I just want to puke up my dinner.
    I’ve got better things to do tonight but if someone else would like to take on the chore, I’ll bet you can go back over Asoka’s posts of the past two years and find 50 to 100 of them that any sane person would conclude express a sentiment the opposite of love for this country.
    As I pointed out last week he is comfortable doing this because he’s tight with Ralph Waldo Emerson who wrote the following:
    Speak what you think now in hard words and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict everything you said to-day.

  204. anti soak February 13, 2012 at 11:58 pm #

    One Stanford University educator has tried to answer that question:
    Over the past century, the institution of marriage has undergone a tremendous transformation in America — especially when it comes to African-Americans. Over the last half century, marriage rates in the black community have dwindled. Black women are more than three times as likely as white women to remain unmarried for their entire lives, and when they do marry they’re more likely than any other group to marry men with lower incomes, and less education, than their own.
    Although, at first glance, this trend seems like a testament to the successes of feminism, Ralph Richard Banks, the author of the new book, “Is Marriage for White People?”, argues that it represents a disturbing shift in the landscape of African-American intimacy.
    Banks, a professor of law at Stanford University, uses detailed interviews and extensive statistical research to argue that this gender and racial imbalance has dire implications for both child-rearing and the long-term happiness of African-American women. In the process, he makes provocative claims about both the importance of marriage and the reasons for its decline — claims that are sure to inflame opinion in a number of circles.
    [FROM SBPDL BLOG]

  205. Pucker February 14, 2012 at 12:16 am #

    Question: Do you know what’s “really weird” about living out here in Asia where I live?
    Answer: Everyone is absolutely, 100% convinced that they’re “Chinese”.
    I keep try’n to tell ’em: “Hey…Look Wang…You don’t have to identify with “This Shit”…. You can be whatever you want to be. If you want to be a person from the planet Venus (a Venutian) you can! Go for it!”

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  206. Buck Stud February 14, 2012 at 12:24 am #

    And the love that pours out of his holy soul. Why Asoka is so filled with love and hospitality that he offered to meet Beantown Bill at some side-of-the-road greasy spoon in what would be a very long cross-country drive for Bill. What a guy.

  207. Liquid Lennny February 14, 2012 at 12:24 am #

    So, will the stress of the past few years daily b.s. manifest itself into some kind of “John Brown Moment”? Perhaps it’ll be more like a “Frank Moment” or is it “Moments”?. I suspect it will be the latter.
    Here’s a preview of the possible “Frank Moment(s)” coming to a theater near you.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aymcwkArFSY
    It’s OK to root for this guy, really…
    Also out here, in the wild wild west, our Republican state legislature is working on passing a law allowing guns on college campuses.
    Who says they don’t have their priorities right?
    Still, it will be challanging packing some heat in the swimming class.
    Hey, I’m not making this s#@t up…
    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2012/02/06/20120206senate-panel-to-hear-guns-on-campus-bill.html

  208. JonathanSS February 14, 2012 at 12:30 am #

    Sorry, but progressives don’t think like you; black/white. The Left (those hated L-I-B-E-R-A-L-S), at least those that think, realize that human sexuality, intelligence & many other traits are a combination of nature vs. nurture. How you divide the percentages for each is subject to debate, but to say it is either culture/climate or genetics alone, is small minded thinking.

  209. JonathanSS February 14, 2012 at 12:37 am #

    I agree; he seems awfully random. One week, it’s all “good in the hood”. The next week he’s moaning that TS will HTF. I’m confused by his swings, but am still a supporter and admitted to him a month ago that I enjoy reading his contrarian views.

  210. JonathanSS February 14, 2012 at 12:39 am #

    I should cut the man some slack. I quote:
    “I’m large, and contain multitudes”:)
    A(put a sock in it)SOKA

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  211. wagelaborer February 14, 2012 at 1:11 am #

    Sorry, SF Mom, I love dogs too. I was just sharing some of my hard earned experience.
    Never mind.
    PS Was the guy Mexican?

  212. wagelaborer February 14, 2012 at 1:32 am #

    Tonight was my co-worker’s last night. They’re sending him to Afghanistan tomorrow.
    The lack of sympathy for him amazed me. This is a good-natured guy who has never been mean to anyone.
    I am the only one who sympathized with him. Everyone else told him that he knew what he was getting into when he signed up, 30 years ago.
    It was like trying to talk sense into the people here. I kept pointing out that he had no way of knowing 30 years ago that we would be invading Afghanistan. They didn’t care.
    So I said, well, it’s true, he should have known that the US would be invading some small country. That’s what we do. No one wanted to admit that, though.
    Then I said to one, hey, you’re so sure that we should know who we’re going to invade next, why don’t you tell us.
    She said, well, my Halliburton friend is in Russia now, so I don’t know.
    I said, what? And she said that her Halliburton friend told her months before we invaded Iraq that the plans were all made, and the talk about all options on the table were bullshit.
    Well, what’s he doing in Russia? Surely the US isn’t stupid enough to attack a country big enough to fight back.
    She doesn’t know what he’s doing there.
    Anyway, one of my co-workers kept insisting that this guy is a draft dodger, because the last time they tried to send him to Iraq, he broke his foot.
    I tried to go Q on him, and explain that you can’t be a draft dodger if there is no draft and you’ve been in the Army for 30 years. Maybe a malingerer, but not a draft dodger.
    He didn’t care. He just kept yelling that the guy was a draft dodger, and he should be happy to go wherever the military sent him.
    The hatred spewed on this website towards non-Americans, or Americans of different races, or Americans who are against war, shows how very hateful Americans can be.
    This were white people spewing hatred toward a white guy whom they have worked with for years, and who has never been anything but nice.
    Unbelievable. Consuming ourselves? You betcha.

  213. Eleuthero February 14, 2012 at 2:14 am #

    Wage,
    That was an empassioned, wonderful post. There’s an incredibly high degree of latent anger in the average American that was not there even one decade ago. This anger is mostly because people’s lives are not as secure, well-paid, or loving as they were in better times.
    When people get stressed, their obsessions turn ENTIRELY inward and they lose empathy for people at roughly their station in life. It’s a tragic existential truth but bad times create bad vibes because the essential nature of bad times is economic insecurity.
    This insecurity fractures marriages, friendships, and the cohesion of the family. Why? Because the SURVIVAL INSTINCT (fight or flight) comes into play when week to week existence seems perilous.
    The seemingly cavalier attitude toward this gentleman laying his life on the line comes from people who are so consumed with worry about their own plight that there’s hardly any room left for a soft emotion towards others.
    I do not EXONERATE these people who were so cold. I merely explain it. In 1941 after the Depression, he’d have been surrounded by love. We have become an incredibly HATEFUL people … a nation of Newt Gingriches. Notice that you only need to remove two letters from Gingrich and do some rearranging and you get GRINCH. Fits him like a glove but he merely reflects what a sack of bastards we’ve become.
    E.

  214. Pucker February 14, 2012 at 2:51 am #

    Wage wrote: “She said, well, my Halliburton friend is in Russia now, so I don’t know.”
    http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg51464.html
    One of Halliburton’s major areas of operation is the former Soviet
    republic of Azerbaijan. And, while the company’s interests there
    derive from a single concern–beneath Azerbaijan lies one of the
    largest untapped oil reserves in the world–there’s more to the
    country than just oil. Above ground, in fact, Azerbaijan is a complete
    mess.
    The country’s president, Heydar Aliyev, deserves much of the blame. In
    1993, the former Soviet Politburo member and head of the local KGB
    directed a coup against his country’s elected president. He has held
    power ever since. Among other things, Aliyev has presided over the
    latter half of a vicious war and blockade against the Armenian enclave
    of Nagorno-Karabakh and over the ethnic cleansing of Azerbaijan’s
    Armenian population. According to Human Rights Watch, his tenure has
    been characterized by “the treason trials of President Heydar Aliyev’s
    personal enemies, brutal treatment in detention, and continued
    repression of freedom of speech.” Responding to such facts (and to
    lobbying by
    Armenian-Americans), Congress in 1992 passed legislation prohibiting
    the United States from providing official aid to Azerbaijan.

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  216. Eleuthero February 14, 2012 at 6:09 am #

    JHK … if you saw this blatant spam, could you please block individual users. Good Lord, a Burberry advertisement on a resource and sustainability blog.
    E.

  217. bubbleheadMarc February 14, 2012 at 7:25 am #

    What still amazes me is how the Pentagon failed to foresee that we weren’t guaranteed victory in Vietnam back in the ‘sixties. Of course since you used the word “expiry” you’re probably Canadian. The Canadians went through that experience with the British during the Boer War. Of course the Boer War was more of a Phyrric victory than a loss like Vietnam was for us. My ultimate reaction to Operation Iraqi Freedom and Afghanistan is more astonishment that they’re even stupid enough to attempt to occupy and patrol on the ground such clearly hostile countries, or that war planners are still even capable of being so credulous as to think that the people there could even be won over to friendship towards us, a ridiculous concept it would appear at least to me.

  218. lbendet February 14, 2012 at 8:32 am #

    What’s in a word?
    Thanks TRE for the link to the National Geographic article on “preppers”.
    The article does discuss briefly JHK’s take Orlov and Crary, who interviews JHK every week on this blog’s podcast.
    Yes, we are moving away from the word “doomers” to “preppers”, which in my opinion bespeaks the recognition by more people of the possibility that some have developed an approach to the peak world in which we are living.
    Remember the History channels “Prophets of Doom”?
    The message is slowly getting out and there’s more people looking for ways to go local.
    Some on this blog have not made a distinction between people that really think it’s over for humanity and there will be a massive die-off and those who have tried to describe localism as the contrast to globalism which is unsustainable.
    Every distortion we see in politics, economics and human reaction to scarcity points to a system that will fall apart if they continue to go down this global path.
    What JHK has been saying all along is that a responsible, realistic governing body could make the transitions better for all.
    Instead we watch with disappointment and horror that they are codifing more of the same behaviors thinking they can avoid the collapse. It’s the ole mind over matter business. The more they dig in their heels, the worse it will be.
    The system now depends on continual war and more securitization of money, creating super levels of debt.This will only result in massive poverty and less function of sovereign states.
    The top eschelon want to create a new class of global aristocracy. They are trying to move humanity back a few centuries from enlightenment to darkness, using doublespeak as their weapon against everyone else.
    I always liken our present state to an event horizon where the closer you get to the black hole the more warped out everything gets.
    Speaking to Wage and E.’s comments about human reaction to devolution of a society, there will always be those who hold onto their humanity and others who become the screaming id.
    I hope I will be an example of the former.

  219. Pucker February 14, 2012 at 8:36 am #

    “…or that war planners are still even capable of being so credulous as to think that the people there could even be won over to friendship towards us, a ridiculous concept it would appear at least to me.”
    How do you know that the U.S. “war planners” are even trying to “win” the Afghan people “over to friendship towards us…?
    Maybe they’re playing both sides? If you finance both sides, then you can’t lose. If the Americans beat the Taliban, then the Americans get the oil pipeline and the mineral resources. If the Taliban wins, then (provided the Americans negotiate a deal with the Taliban) the Americans still get the oil pipeline and the mineral resources. All that’s necessary to negotiate the deal is a few thousand American lives, cannon fodder in the minds of the “war planners”.

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  220. DeeJones February 14, 2012 at 8:42 am #

    “Over the last half century, marriage rates in the black community have dwindled. Black women are more than three times as likely as white women to remain unmarried for their entire lives, and when they do marry they’re more likely than any other group to marry men with lower incomes, and less education, than their own.”
    Or – It could be because black MEN get put in prison about 10x more than Whitey-men, and when they get out, well, their economic job prospects aren’t so great.
    Ya think that could be part of the problem?
    Ya tink? No, I’m asking do you actually THINK with that brain of yours? Oh, wait, do you still have a brain? Or did you get a Limbagotomy?

  221. DeeJones February 14, 2012 at 8:46 am #

    You know, this site USED to have some great commentary, and some really great posters.
    Now it just a bunch of crap, Jim, you really should just close the comments sections down.
    People read this shit and think that it represents you too.
    Then they don’t come back and read anything again.
    Its too bad. Moderate or die Jim. Get it focused …
    This is just a waste of time.
    Bye

  222. Widespreadpanic7 February 14, 2012 at 9:06 am #

    John Brown’s family was from right around here. They moved west in the great migration to the Connecticut Western Reserve (Ohio) in the early 19th century. The Brown homestead is still standing on a rural road in N Canton, CT. When John Brown wanted to procure weapons for his endeavor he came back here, to Collinsville, CT for pikes and to Hartford, CT for Sharps rifles.
    Hey Antisoak, the Muslims were the great slave traders of the 19th century, operating out of Zanzibar until the British shut down the whole business in the 1880s. Entire swaths of east and southeast Africa were scoured by Arab slave traders; tens of thousands of people were rounded up and brought to what is now Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Iraq. Nobody mentions this much, altho the research is there for anyone who cares to look it up. Something tells me that Cornell West and his ‘African Studies’ dept. at Princeton won’t be looking it up.
    So I picked up a copy of Daniel Yergin’s ‘The Quest’, yesterday. 800 pages means it will take a week or two to get thru. Yergin is not too popular around the CFNation, I know. Jim thinks he is a shill for the oil companies. I going to see for myself what he has to say. I know an earlier book of his ‘The Prize’ was pretty good.
    –WSP7

  223. Widespreadpanic7 February 14, 2012 at 9:09 am #

    Hey DeeJones, why can’t people say what the hell they want? Who are you, Chairman Mao?
    –WSP7

  224. lbendet February 14, 2012 at 9:09 am #

    BTW,
    As I was perusing my usual sites, Max Keiser always has a new video on Tues and Thurs and over the weekend, I came upon his latest featuring JHK who will be discussing the John Brown moment.
    http://maxkeiser.com/
    Dee Jones, I’ll be sorry to see you go. There are still many who contribute to the spirit of this blog. 90% of the time, I just scroll through and know who I want to read. The rest is unfortunately way off topic or pure spam.

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  225. Widespreadpanic7 February 14, 2012 at 9:17 am #

    Pretty thoughtful post there Ibendet (8:32AM). No hyperbole, and right on the money. It does indeed sum up what JHK has been saying all these years
    –WSP7

  226. SNAFU February 14, 2012 at 9:51 am #

    “devotee arrghh!”
    mea culpa
    SNAFU

  227. metuselah February 14, 2012 at 9:59 am #

    Interesting reading:
    Face the Music | The Big Picture
    http://goo.gl/zOAhC
    .
    .
    You’re saying that Fisher argued against fractional reserve banking?
    Yes, and so did the people that more or less followed in Fisher’s footsteps, principally Charles Kindleberger and Hyman Minsky. Minsky felt that the way you prevented a major debt deflation cycle was to keep the banks small.
    Prevent them from ever becoming too big to fail in the first place?
    Right. Don’t let them merge. You don’t want them to get big. I actually gave a paper with Minsky once, in 1981, in which he advocated that position. Kindleberger was very precise in “Manias, Panics, and Crashes,” when he said that when you have a small credit problem, or many small problems, some say, you don’t want the Federal Reserve to respond. Because if the central bank comes in and bails out a small problem, then that will be a sign to those who want to take more risk that they don’t need to be cautious — they can always count on the central bank to come in and bail them out. If they do, Kindleberger said — and this was in ’78 — then the future crisis will be even greater. “A free lunch for speculators today means that they’re likely to be less prudent in the future. Hence, the next several financial crises could be more severe.”
    Too bad nobody paid attention.

  228. lbendet February 14, 2012 at 10:15 am #

    M.,
    The 1980’s was the real transition from Keynes to Free market Friedmanism. Starting with mergers and acquisitions to build big corporations and banks for global hegemony. Once they decided to go global Sherman anti-trust became obsolete.
    I love pointing to the transformation of Chase to TBTF. First there was Manufacturers Hanover, then that merged with Chemical and then Chase gobbled them up.
    They heard—they clearly had another agenda. Going for global laissez-faire and building wealth upon debt, no barriers to entry–all go well beyond Adam Smith. You have to know some group wanted to go full-tilt in this direction for a reason.
    It’s easy to see when you don’t listen to the blather.

  229. charliefoxtrot February 14, 2012 at 10:21 am #

    man, that was well put, and comprehensive; apparently more views we share…

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  230. charliefoxtrot February 14, 2012 at 10:25 am #

    thanks, i ll try it…

  231. charliefoxtrot February 14, 2012 at 10:31 am #

    s#¡t man, you d better not: you owe the man $1.67 as it is; iffen you quit, you ll never get your money back…!

  232. metuselah February 14, 2012 at 10:35 am #

    True.
    But a sound historical, psychological, and econo-theoretical underpinning for that move (global hegemony) is not there. They must have known this. History is very clear on that score. Economists such as Hyman Minsky warned against this, and Fisher (the greatest economist ever) too.
    So the push did not come from the banking side of the ledger. The push to go global must have come from the corporate and political side of the ledger. So now question becomes, WHY?
    I think this leads us, very neatly, to my original thesis. The whole operation has its head in the Vatican. The push to go global is really a push to re-establish Romanism, which is basically feudal imperialism.

  233. charliefoxtrot February 14, 2012 at 10:40 am #

    busted! ‘tho i kinda like the quote…i don t think asoka (dja like the third person address there?) is quite getting what waldo meant, exactly; the old soaka is taking things too literally, and a little disingenuously at that…

  234. lbendet February 14, 2012 at 11:20 am #

    As with Vlad,
    I don’t agree with your conclusions about who is responsible.
    Both of you have boogey men behind the whole thing, but it’s has to be more gainers of the system than that.
    I think the big problem is that there is a group of winners from Financials, the post industrial-security-military complex and power mongers who want no regulations and bypass the rule of law.
    Its all about the risk-immune untouchables.

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  235. budizwiser February 14, 2012 at 11:27 am #

    The concept of ‘nationhood’ has been reduced to little more than a motif – a design element, if you will, much devoid of its original function.

    Pedal – very astute comments. Thank you for posting them. Very few people have the ability to keep a sense of perspective while focusing on a world filled with skullduggery.
    I really was amazed when little public remark resulted from such edicts as “the war on terror.”
    Jim Knustler’s rantings no longer carry meaning or weight in a national venue that has become so devoid of rational thought and basic language skill that words and phrase can mean anything the powerful dictate.
    Deception has become intrinsic to national security policy. And unfortunately, the public-good has become the “enemy of the state.”
    Ride much?

  236. metuselah February 14, 2012 at 11:37 am #

    Its all about the risk-immune untouchables.
    ==
    Yes, but who decides who’s untouchable and who’s not? Who decides that Rupert Murdoch, Conrad Black, Dominique Strauss-Kahn after being good servants, are going down, while others are never heard of and never touched?
    That’s what you fail to answer.
    There is no coincidence or chance in politics. EVERYTHING is planned and premeditated.

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  238. progress2conserve February 14, 2012 at 11:39 am #

    Nice week’s work, JHK. Thanks to you, as always.
    “….what was a long time coming. Reality is busy in the background, even while we blog and dither, setting things up.” -JHK-
    Reality is out there, in the from of physics, biology, and the inviolable laws of thermodynamics. Most of us humans tend to ignore these facts as we live our decade-to-decade lives.
    Few argue that the Earth’s population is not already too large, and growing larger. Quality of life in the United States has visibly degraded, by most objective measures, as we went from 200 million to 300 million. Almost all of the increased demand that the US places on wold resources is due to population INCREASE due to immigration, mostly LEGAL immigration.
    Despite this, TPTB continue to pack the US more and more full – with no evident long range plans at all, except Freemarket Capitalism to infinity, and beyond.
    This can’t possibly end well.
    https://www.numbersusa.com/content/
    OK, back to your regularly scheduled dithering.

  239. wagelaborer February 14, 2012 at 11:40 am #

    What a beautiful summation of economic reality, summed up succinctly by this bit of wisdom-
    “At the end of all this, a massive amount of money that did not exist before will not exist again”
    Exactly
    The struggle is between the 1% that wants us to pay imaginary money back and the 99% who can’t.

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  240. metuselah February 14, 2012 at 11:51 am #

    The struggle is between the 1% that wants us to pay imaginary money back and the 99% who can’t.
    ==
    The struggle is really a struggle for power. Power to keep others as slaves to a parasitic class and their parasitic system. That’s what the Vaticanism/Romanism/Imperialism is all about. That’s what religion is all about. That’s what the Babylonian system of legal authority is all about. That’s what the Babylonian money system is all about. All these systems interconnect and interweave with each other, because they’re really the same system under a slightly different guise.

  241. wagelaborer February 14, 2012 at 11:53 am #

    I think that you are an example, lbendet.
    Good point about the words. Doomers vs preppers. You got it.
    Too bad that the Obama administration is calling people who prepare “domestic terrorists”.
    Another conversation I had last night was with a guy who told me that someone (I forget who) said that you can tell about a society by who they have in prison.
    I think that he probably mangled the quote. I’m pretty sure that it’s – you can tell about a society by how they treat their prisoners.
    Anyway, he said that we have worthless scum in our prisons, so that shows that our country is no good.
    Mangled the quote, drew some strange conclusions.
    I pointed out that we have more prisoners than any other country, 2.3 million, with more than half being there for illegal plant ownership.
    He’s an alcholic, not a pot smoker, so he had no sympathy.

  242. Rhino February 14, 2012 at 11:54 am #

    Hey DeeJones, why can’t people say what the hell they want? Who are you, Chairman Mao? – WSP7
    Many totalitarians among us. It’s nothing new, there have been such people all throughout history. 20th Century monsters like Mao/Stalin/Hitler/PolPot/Kim were just the latest and the worst. It’s all about dominance and personal aggrandisement. They love telling other people what to think and dictating what you can and can’t say. Maybe even more than lining people up at the edges of deep pits and shooting them or stringing them up at crossroads as an example and leaving them to fester for a few days and maybe even more than imprisoning them in gulags and working them to death. And then they say it’s all for the common good. And there’s no shortage of closet psychopaths to carry out their orders.

  243. wagelaborer February 14, 2012 at 12:03 pm #

    Well, yeah, they want to make us slaves and they are using debt that others ran up to enslave us.
    We need to repudiate that debt. We didn’t incur it, and we don’t need to impoverish ourselves and destroy our environment to pay it back.
    Good point earlier about how they pick scapegoats.
    I do indeed wonder about that.

  244. WestCoast February 14, 2012 at 12:17 pm #

    Regarding the slave trade:
    There was a family in Spain that was kicked out by the RRCC, that’s Catholic Kings to you, circa 1492.
    They went to Portugal and bought their way into acceptance. Started business dealings that lasted for hundreds of years in Portuguese Africa exporting slaves to the New World in a big way.
    After slavery was outlawed they got very wealthy, started buying up land in the Civil War devastated South, then farming then selling supplies like fertilizers to other farmers, then farm chemicals then manufacturing fossil fuel based carpeting then branched out into pesticide manufacture and finally genetically modified seeds.
    Family name was “Holy Mountain”, or
    “Mons Santo”.
    Now you know.

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  245. Eleuthero February 14, 2012 at 12:21 pm #

    How quickly we forget as a culture? Almost no one remembers the Continental Illinois collapse and bailout in 1984. To show how times have changed, it took the FDIC only $4.5 billion bail them out back then but that was STILL considered a real scandal!! An officer in charge of “oil lending” made a few boo-boos and down it went.
    Well, even in 2012 dollars, this “scandal” would only be around $15 billion in today’s dollar. My God … this wouldn’t even be newsworthy in 2012 because we’re used to catastrophes on a vastly greater scale.
    Your post gives me a better handle on your idea that the Vatican is responsible for the sort of “globalism” that has beset today’s world economy. I’d still be interested in concrete events that you see as a direct link between the Vatican and the US and world banking system since bank CEOs seem like a mishmash of Protestants, Catholics, and Jews when viewed broadly.
    Mind you, I am not now nor have I ever been a lover of the Catholic Church which I see as the ultimate bastardization and destruction of the original Christianity. I would actually be greatly beholden to you if you could cite “smoking gun” events that draw a thread between the Vatican and the developing feudal imperialism you see. Frankly, “feudal imperialism” pretty much describes what’s going on … the development of a “prison planet” where the developed world REGRESSES to a place where everyone is a “serf”.
    E.

  246. Rhino February 14, 2012 at 12:29 pm #

    Yes Race is a fuzzy set just as color is. So because pink gradually merges into red thefore it doesn’t exist? Is that the idea here? Doesn’t really make it, does it? Pink exists. Whites exist. Yes there are populations that are mixed East Asian and White. So? – VK
    So race being a fuzzy set I would further add that there are genetic “tendencies” as you move around the world, not airtight envelopes. I would further say that if white Europeans and East Asians are more genetically similar to one another than subsharan Africans are to each other it makes little sense to me to think of whites and east Asians as separate “races” and subsaharan blacks as one “race”.
    There are other genetic markers and characteristics than just skin color and hair texture but “race” seems to be defined just by skin and hair. Outward appearances IOW. Pretty shallow wouldn’t you say?
    If you want to base public policy, residency rights, civil rights on such a fuzzy set as “race” well good luck to you.
    Why do I say good luck? Because you don’t know what racial indicators will be fashionable at any point in time and you might be astonished when the “race scientists” and classifiers show up at your door with swabs and needles (for blood and DNA samples) and color charts for skin and eye color classification and calipers to measure nose length and width. And you might be further astonished at what the DNA samples indicate as to your own Y chromosome ancestry and mitochondrial DNA history.
    What if your mitochondrial DNA says that you are descended not from one of the seven European daughters of Eve but from an African woman that was possibly taken as a slave in Roman times or a Hunnic girl that was maybe married/sold off to a farmer somewhere in what was later called Poland? Or worse still what if the mitochondrial DNA indicates that your mitochondrial “mother” was quite probably a Semitic woman living somewhere in the Levant in near prehistory? What if your Y chromosome shows something equally surprising or distasteful?
    What if your personal rights and privileges were dependent on the outcome of such tests? What if you found yourself on the “outs”, marginalized, despised, deprived of your rights, your profession or trade and your property and maybe enslaved or exiled?
    Given the massive bureaucratic stupidities you’ve seen in your lifetime, given the various recent pogroms, massacres and holocausts and given shifting political winds and tendencies for public policies to go to nonsensical extremes do you even want to contemplate such things?

  247. Buck Stud February 14, 2012 at 12:41 pm #

    I second your enthusiasm Budizwizer; truly outstnading post by pedal pusher.

  248. Vlad Krandz February 14, 2012 at 12:42 pm #

    Judasim is the modern epitome of the Babylonian System – as is clear from the Talmud and the percentage of Jews in Banking, Media, etc. You do my work for me.

  249. Buck Stud February 14, 2012 at 12:43 pm #

    Well Rhino, I guess you’re not so easily categorized, despite Wage’s efforts to the contrary. Great questions for Vlad; it’ll will be interesting to read his response.

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  250. Qshtik February 14, 2012 at 12:49 pm #

    There is endless talk on CFN of America’s enslavement of blacks. And there is further talk of the enslavement of the “99%” by the elite 1%. Well, I learned something interesting on Jeopardy last night. The word slave derives from the word Slav. Makes sense, right? but who knew? See below.
    1250–1300; Middle English sclave so called because Slavs were commonly enslaved in the early Middle Ages; see Slav
    So now, click on your Dictionary.com app and type in Slav. What you’ll see is that a very large group of peoples (I use the plural deliberately) across Europe, Russia etc were Slavs. It is quite likely there are slaves amongst YOUR ancestors. My children’s maternal great grandparents came through Ellis Island from Czechoslovakia.
    When my liberal kids (who have never even scrubbed out a toilet) hear this they’ll wear their slave beginnings like a badge of honor.

  251. Eleuthero February 14, 2012 at 12:53 pm #

    LB said:
    I think the big problem is that there is a group of winners from Financials, the post industrial-security-military complex and power mongers who want no regulations and bypass the rule of law.
    Its all about the risk-immune untouchables.
    **************************************************************
    Exactly. The bailout system in place since 2008 would make the TBTF’s even more brazen, not less. After all, they can personally enrich themselves with the surety that if their ENTERPRISE fails, they still get to keep their PERSONAL empire. We see this with Lloyd Blankfein, Vikram Pandit, and a host of TBTF bank CEOs. If anything, these men have had the best four years of their lives while the 99% are virtually indentured servants.
    This goes back to our discussion of the “middle class”. Well, when you step just a bit below the median household income, you soar to a situation where a household whose owners are in their pivotal 40s decade in their lives, they owe somewhere around $70,000 of debt. The percentage of Americans who live in homes has plummeted since 2005 to rates not seen since the 1960s. Those who do live in homes (somewhere around 64%) have a net equity of around $93,000.
    So, the NET WORTH of people living in homes, taking into account debt levels in their 40s around the mean income level, is somewhere in the $20K to $70K levels when you go from $10K below the median income to $10K above it. Any way you slice it, people in their 40s whose wages will NOT improve, don’t even have enough money for SIX MONTHS in a nursing home when they age. Of course, renters have no mortgage debt but they DO have other debts (car, credit card) and very little savings.
    When you get to the underbelly of this whole situation, even under THE most optimistic set of statistics, the net worth of the average American family in their 40s (which is a far WORSE plight of people in their 50s and 60s who mostly live in homes already paid off or nearly so) is just about NOTHING.
    Thus, for people under 50, the future is unusually bleak and I would expect that a great many of them will have to work until they are dead or physically unable to work. When they become physically unable to work, who will take care of them? Their kids, who are in their teens to twenties will almost be FORCED to take care of them lock, stock, and barrel but that’s often not possible is they develop medical needs that require daily attention.
    It’s not the net worth and future of the over-50s that determines the economic future of a country. It’s the net worth of the under-50s who comprise the vast majority of people in the USA. And that future is one of debt, job insecurity, and serfdom for life.
    E.

  252. metuselah February 14, 2012 at 1:00 pm #

    First, I want to say again, that I have no malice towards Catholics as a group of people or as individuals. Same for all other groups and individuals. (Even AmeriKKKans:). We are all victims of cultural programming. And that cultural/emotional programming is very very difficult to overcome, if at all.
    But we have to look critically at institutions and power structures for they are. We have a very long historical record when it comes to Romanism/Vaticanism to allow a very clear understanding of what it is and what it is about. E., you ask me for connections. There are many books that deal with this subject. Of-course, they have been marginalized and made scarce by those who do not wish you to know, but if you make the effort to actively seek this information, you can find it. And I’ve already provided you with a good list of authors to start on that journey.

  253. Vlad Krandz February 14, 2012 at 1:03 pm #

    Medical Men find value in Race – as does the Insurance Industry and Banking. Blacks die earlier – and yes they treat themselves like shit but the evidence is that it is probably genetic as well. They are born sooner and have more twins. Is that cultural too?
    Obviously, Blacks are a poor risk in terms of insurance. And loans. As you know, the Feds forced Banks to lend to Blacks and Hispanics and their defaults helped crash the economy. The are obviously other factors as it was heading for a crash in any case.
    Murray and Hernstein argue for a world where everyone has a chance – the American System at its best. But under Johnson we went for equality of outcome not opportunity – a gigantic mistake. I tried to bring this up with Prog but he wont bite. Now the underclass, Black, White, and Brown, are addicted to free everything. We’re done unless we want to fight them as in Greece. It will come to that eventually. Obviously, equality of outcome would leave Blacks on the bottom – which is where they belong. Cruel? Of course, Nature is. Watch the animal channel if you have any doubts on that score. I’d be willing to live in such a Culture, but it would be better for Blacks to have their own. And again, politically – it’s long gone.
    I’m not sure you’re right about the genetic diversity being greater among Africans than between Whites and Asians. Even if so, two groups are still far enough apart to consider them as separate. Maybe we need more categories for the Africans?
    We’re all made of largely the same stuff – it’s how it’s arranged that makes the difference. And a small difference at the genetic level can have a huge effect in the macro world of our daily life. You don’t seem to want to acknowledge any of this for some reason. Anyway, I’ll look into the African diversity question and get back to you.
    If my great, great, great, great, great, great, Granny was Black, then it’s been largely washed out by now since I am Very White indeed. In terms of a couple of generations such things are very obvious since Black traits are dominant. Why any White would want to have children who wont look like them, act like them, or be like them is beyond me. Genetically, it’s being cuckolded, used. A random White on the street is closer to you genetically than your own son or daughter. Horrible.

  254. metuselah February 14, 2012 at 1:07 pm #

    Slavs were commonly enslaved in the early Middle Ages
    ==
    By whom? Who were the slave masters?

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  255. Eleuthero February 14, 2012 at 1:08 pm #

    An addendum to LB re my previous post: Average home equity in the US a year ago was around $90K. However, this accounts for ALL home owners. But I maintain that it’s the 40-somethings we must look at, not the “median” which includes old people lucky enough to buy BEFORE home prices soared.
    Although no stats are easily available for the home owners under 50 and over 30, it’s easy to hypothesize that the median equity is far below that $90K figure because of outstanding mortgage left to be paid off. Mind you, $90K of home equity with a $52K median debt at the median household income still leaves VERY little “net worth”.
    The more you dig, the more you see that in America, where the median AGE is 37, a vast majority of people (i.e., the under 50s) have either no (or negative) net worth with very poor prospects of turning this around any time soon. This makes Bernanke’s speech about the housing markets ludicrous because the median house still costs way above 3X household income (4.5X for a new home). In 1960 when economics was not as dismal a “science”, 3X was considered the POINT OF UNAFFORDABILITY.
    So we’ve got a hefty majority who can’t really afford the homes they are living in and would-be buyers won’t be able to afford it unless home prices under another FIFTY percent price fall. Bernanke’s idea that America will be better off if housing prices go up from here is as ludicrous as an idea can get.
    E.

  256. Vlad Krandz February 14, 2012 at 1:09 pm #

    Some Abos have red and blonde hair – without any mixing from Whites. So race is much deeper than this. In fact, I think their red hair comes from a different genetic combination than our’s.
    Abos have very thick skulls and small brains. Their skulls are much thicker than that of modern Whites – a possible Homo Erectus input. So race has to do with bone density, brain size and shape, and hormonal levels. The latter is key since it ties directly into behavior. If I shot you up with Testosterone everyday, think you might start putting your hand thru walls? Blacks are like this naturally.

  257. Vlad Krandz February 14, 2012 at 1:14 pm #

    What a horrible attitude – a typical liberal. Can’t standing reading things you don’t agree with and want to silence such people. And love the way you made a huge deal about King Tut being “African” (as if Caucasians haven’t lived in Africa for ages) and then went dead silent when I proved that Tut was a Northern European. You suck.

  258. Rhino February 14, 2012 at 1:16 pm #

    Vlad I think you are confusing things. Black Americans and Hispanics are also socio-economic classes of people.
    How did Blacks get to where they’re at? Was it just genetics? Or was it the cumulative effect of centuries of enslavement, oppression, being pissed on and subject to the daily rituals of humiliation and vexation?
    Imagine the tables being turned. Imagine that not so long ago your ancestors were slaves or defacto slaves, that you are a member of a despised and small minority subject to cruelties that others never have to worry about? Imagine that you and your kind have the bottom of the barrel, the worst of everything, that you are/were restricted economically, socially, politically. Imagine that headhunters and recruiters are given the directive to find someone for a position with an “all-American” look to them. No Blacks meaning, nor Hispanics, nor maybe anyone with an accent that sounds anything like Jed Clampett.
    I’m not remotely excusing the various social/behavioral ills and dysfunctions plaguing Black American society. I’m explaining their possible source and putting things in context. Things you deem to be of racial or genetic origin may be nothing of the sort.

  259. metuselah February 14, 2012 at 1:16 pm #

    But we have to look critically at institutions and power structures for ^what they are.

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  260. Vlad Krandz February 14, 2012 at 1:35 pm #

    There was alot of Black Slavery in Portugal as well – the only place in Europe that ever happened. They were freed and mixed with the people – and Portugal has lost all its greatness. Let’s not let it happen here.

  261. anti soak February 14, 2012 at 1:38 pm #

    I read that after Bill and Madeline bombed the begeezus out of former Yugoslavia the USA built the largest [up till 1999 at least] Permanent Military Base there.
    Are the events related? Is there alot of oil in Bosnia etc?

  262. metuselah February 14, 2012 at 1:40 pm #

    Judge Napolitano: What If
    http://goo.gl/Azx1z
    No “what if” about it.

  263. anti soak February 14, 2012 at 1:42 pm #

    ‘Ya think that could be part of the problem?
    Ya tink? No, I’m asking do you actually THINK with that brain of yours? Oh, wait, do you still have a brain? Or did you get a Limbagotomy? ‘
    Gawd what a flamer you have degenerated into!
    I am saying Adults are responsible for their own behavior and that includes:
    Dropping out of HS[so much for employemnt prospects]
    Impregnating single teen age girls etc.
    Seesh yr a fool.
    I do not state my support or opposition to the drug wars, thats another post, maybe.
    flame on baybee

  264. anti soak February 14, 2012 at 1:43 pm #

    all whites are low lifes to some.
    so there you.

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  265. Vlad Krandz February 14, 2012 at 1:46 pm #

    My ancestors on my Irish side were considered subhuman by the WASPS. They took it, fought back when they had to, and got to work. In Boston they ended up taking power and humiliating the WASPS. And now they have joined them.
    Your ancestors weren’t considered White (but they were!). But as young Correleone said to his Father in the Godfather, “We’ll get there Pop”. And they did. Now they have joined them. The whole Mafia thing was blown out of proportion by Hollywood to hide the huge Jewish aspect of organized crime btw.
    The Chinese and the Vietmanese have us all beat: they come here with not a word of English, in a couple of years they are ahead of Whites academically, and come time for college, they speak it better than Whites. A high Race are they not? Not that I want to them to rule us of course…
    And now the Blacks. What can one say after these examples? If a man is a slave inwardly taking off his chains wont make much difference. And they are slaves – of their lower nature, of their genes. And the few that can make it move right out of their slums to live with Whites. The spirit of service! African Blacks come to the West and manage to become doctors – and then stay to enjoy the lifestyle. As Dr Schweitzer said after decades of experience: the few that can work hard do so for themselves and their family. The spirit of service is not in them. And the Blacks back home? That’s the White People’s job!

  266. anti soak February 14, 2012 at 1:49 pm #

    in herr words ‘Moderate or die Jim’

  267. anti soak February 14, 2012 at 1:53 pm #

    The show was taken off the air? yes?

  268. metuselah February 14, 2012 at 1:55 pm #

    bombed the begeezus out of former Yugoslavia
    ==
    Not Yugoslavia, Serbia! They did not bomb Croatia or any of the Albanian enclaves. They only bombed the Serbs. The same Serbs who they falsely accused of war crimes and ethnic cleansing, while in reality they were the victims of war crimes and ethnic cleansing.
    E., maybe you could explain this? Why it was that only the Serbs were victimized by CIA/MSM propaganda, NATO bombs, and German-financed Croatian and Albanian war criminals?

  269. metuselah February 14, 2012 at 1:57 pm #

    The show was taken off the air? yes?
    ==
    Yes, it was.

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  270. Eleuthero February 14, 2012 at 1:59 pm #

    I’d rather leave the “explaining” up to you since you have it all figured out.
    E.

  271. Vlad Krandz February 14, 2012 at 1:59 pm #

    The Abos are very well adapted for Austalia. The Anglo Celts get alot of skin cancer down there. And a thick skull gets in the way of having a big brain, but it sure comes in handy when you get hit over the head with a war club.
    They have great endurance and visual abilities (their visual brain center is larger than our’s) and it makes for great trackers. The English used them to hunt down their escaped Irish slaves. They would catch the Irish and beat them half to death as they brought them back. So as the Irish came into their own in the outback, things went quite ill for the Abos.
    But don’t feel too bad: they were cannibals and one tribe ate hundreds of Chinese railroad workers. East Asians taste better than Whites apparently. Whites are too dry and salty. An evolutionary adaptation against Cannibalism?
    They have proved hopeless as far adapting to modern life. With IQ’s in the 60’s it’s not to be wondered at. They should be considered fauna and be protected. The half breeds look much more White than mulattoes do since the Abos are closer to us genetically. Some of them are bright enough to function in Society.

  272. Rhino February 14, 2012 at 2:01 pm #

    What can one say after these examples? Just this: none of the examples you cite were dragged in chains as slaves and forced to work without recompense or bought and sold like farm animals or otherwise treated remotely as cruelly as blacks were. And not just for a while but for hundreds of years. You are assuming that what you see black people doing is innate behavior. That is a very dangerous assumption.
    Before you go into the bad state of subsaharan Africa just remember that black people live there, white people die there. And remember also that the state of other continents is pretty much as bad ie the condition of a billion people in China (never mind the alleged superiority of East Asians) and also the conditions in large parts of India/Pakistan/South America.

  273. metuselah February 14, 2012 at 2:09 pm #

    It was all a coincidence. No rhyme or reason behind it at all. They made up horror stories about the Serbs, because, well, someone had to be the bad guys, and the Serbs drew the short straw. It was all by chance. Yeah, that’s it.

  274. Vlad Krandz February 14, 2012 at 2:20 pm #

    White Christian Europe must be destroyed so that the Global State can come. The West is pretty much done, now for the Orthodox Slavs, a much tougher nut to crack. So use the Muslims! Putin was on his way to Wasington for a meeting. When he heard that the bombing had commenced, he turned around and went back to Russia. Serbia is Russia’s little brother and they were enraged at its treatment.

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  275. wagelaborer February 14, 2012 at 2:27 pm #

    Yeah, talk about impudent reversal of the truth!
    Hitler tried to kill the Serbs, and the Crotian Utashe helped.
    The head of Croatia in the 90s, Franjo Tudjman, was LITERALLY a Nazi supporter.
    Yet the US propaganda at the time called Milosevich
    the “new Hitler”!!!
    As ex-Nazi collaborators massacred Serbs, as they did under Hitler, the US supported them with bombs and money.
    But they were just Slavs, so it didn’t matter.
    http://4international.me/2008/03/21/tudjman-the-croatian-ustashe-nazi-genocide-of-krajina-serbs-part-2/

  276. malthus February 14, 2012 at 2:30 pm #

    Correct again. English is not my first language and I do make mistakes with the written word. Thanks. Back to the process of learning.

  277. Vlad Krandz February 14, 2012 at 2:31 pm #

    Not quite true – millions of Whites died in indentured servitude, some of it involuntary. But involuntary or not, it was often brutal and a sentence to the sugar plantations of the West Indies was usually a death sentence. They were treated worse than the Blacks you see. Why? To get their money’s worth why they had them. Blacks on the other hand, were valuable property. Ugly, yes?
    But in any case, you show the same poor judgement as ever. No reasonable person can believe that East Asians would still be complete fuck ups generations after regaining their freedom. Life is always new every second. If you see someone out of the streets making the same excuses year after year, do you believe him? A normal person would find a way off the streets in a few months in a normal economy (not now of course). Blacks are always complaining about Whites but they are their own worst enemies. You admit this but say it’s the culture. But it’s the same in Africa – even where the White Man never was in force. It’s just who they are: fuck ups and low lifes. Separating the culture from the individuals who comprise it is one of your favorite tricks – as if a forest can exist without trees.
    One writer uses the asshole paradigm that Marc loves so much. All these homeless in San Francisco, he said, why don’t they have someone’s couch to crash on? Or any family to fall back on? Because they are assholes who have worn out their welcome with everyone.

  278. Vlad Krandz February 14, 2012 at 2:36 pm #

    Thanks to you people, all Whites are Nazis anytime the label proves useful. The Serbs are Nazis too for fighting the Muslims. You will say that when it proves expedient or when the cue to do so comes down from Party Headquarters.
    The Serbs and the Croats both hate the saintly Bosnians for converting to Islam. Be right or wrong, that’s the simple fact. All three groups are similar culturally, and have well earned reputations for savagery. So who should we support? The Christians – unless you want to help the Jihad against Europe.

  279. Widespreadpanic7 February 14, 2012 at 2:40 pm #

    Vlad, did you mention that you moved recently to Washington State?
    Big political decision being made in Washington State, this week, eh? … a decision that in all of recorded human history would have been deemed ludicrous. But there it is. How much lower can this place fall?
    –WSP7

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  280. metuselah February 14, 2012 at 2:41 pm #

    Yeah, talk about impudent reversal of the truth!
    ==
    It’s an old well worn technique that they like to use. The Roman/Vatican Bible is full of it. Haim Maccoby really should be required reading for anyone remotely curious about the Roman/Vatican Bible.

  281. wagelaborer February 14, 2012 at 2:53 pm #

    Weird coincidence that you’re bringing this up.
    Today, one of my Vietnam vet friends and I covered the Green Party radio show.
    He talked about how his dad, a Presbyterian minister, visited one of his parishioners in the poorhouse in the early 50s.
    This was where old people went when they lost their money and homes. He said that it was like a jail cell, with a metal bed and a 40 watt lightbulb.
    So his Dad helped to found our local county nursing home. Now the county is going to sell it to a private corporation, and any workers retained will have their wages halved. Who knows what kind of care the elderly will receive, when a for-profit company takes over?
    And we talked about the housing problem.
    I pointed out (as you did) that in the 70s, rising
    housing prices were seen as a BAD thing, because it meant that buying or renting a house was unaffordable.
    Houses should not be looked at as sources of wealth. They are places to live, and, as you pointed out, hopefully, by the time people are retired, they will own them free and clear.
    Buying a house as a source of income is very bizarre. A house sucks up money, just like a car. And like a car, although it could be considered an asset, if you sell your house or car, you then have no transportation or place to live.
    Hardly a source of wealth.

  282. wagelaborer February 14, 2012 at 3:00 pm #

    Nope. The Croatian Utashe was an actual Nazi collaborator, although it was said that the SS was horrified by their brutality. And Franjo Tjudman was actually a former Utashe member.
    It’s not like calling anyone we don’t like a Nazi, as our ruling overlords do.
    It’s the SAME damn people. Literally.

  283. wagelaborer February 14, 2012 at 3:04 pm #

    Wait! The Serbs and Croats are both Christians.
    Or do you only consider Catholics to be Christians?

  284. asoka. February 14, 2012 at 3:36 pm #

    Elie Wiesel, the Holocaust survivor who has devoted his life to combating intolerance, says Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney “should speak to his own church and say they should stop” performing posthumous proxy baptisms on Jews.

    This is hilarious. Reminds me of the time P2C got upset because I was offering Islamic prayers for the healing of his wife.
    Does Elie Wiesel think the Mormon baptism might confuse God and that God might not be able to recognize the Chosen People?
    Bill Maher performed an unbaptism ceremony for Mitt’s father-in-law who was a scientist and an atheist. Maybe Elie Wiesel should contact Bill Maher to have him do a mass unbaptism of Jews baptised by the Mormons.
    Sometimes I wonder how we ever got to the 21st century still believing in all this God and church and baptism hocus-pocus. Elie Wiesel should know better.

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  285. progress2conserve February 14, 2012 at 3:47 pm #

    Nice post about the root word for SLAVery being the same as the root word for the SLAVic countries. I had no idea. I wonder how the entymology of the REAL? “slavES” got so distorted??
    Regarding your kids:
    “When my liberal kids (who have never even scrubbed out a toilet) hear this they’ll wear their slave beginnings like a badge of honor.”
    That’s interesting. They might surprise you.
    I believe that the sooner all of us humans on Earth recognize that ALL of us must have some sort of genetic background as human slaves who suffered hardship at the hands of others – the better off we all will be.
    Similarily, the sooner we acknowledge that ALL of us humans on Earth must also have a background as slaveholders and oppressors who caused suffering to others – the better off we will be.*
    Even Rhino has a habit of excusing the ills of the black underclass as largely a product of slavery and oppression. Sadly, as long as there is an excuse offered – many people will seize the excuse and run with it for their whole lives – and for the lives of their children, and their children’s children, and their children’s children’s children.
    *I will try to address the apparent lack of this belief on the part of Mika, later on tonight.

  286. progress2conserve February 14, 2012 at 3:53 pm #

    “This is hilarious. Reminds me of the time P2C got upset because I was offering Islamic prayers for the healing of his wife.”
    -asoka-
    I got upset because YOU are a WIESEL.
    I really hate you, by the way, asoka..
    And I don’t hate many people.
    I’m not sure why, but it’s visceral and seems to transcend time and space. If you really knew me, the feeling would be mutual.
    And the more you say soothing words and pretend to express love for me “as a person,” the worse my loathing for you as a person, becomes.
    Just thought I’d clear that up, in case there was any possible misunderstanding left among the CFN community.

  287. Lou Gogan February 14, 2012 at 3:59 pm #

    John Browne II is going to have a very hard time being heard and will be wasting his/her time.
    The problem with our various so-called democracies, especially in Ireland where I live, is that the Constitution, rather than being the liberator of the citizens actually emasculates them because it strips the citizens of their power and authority and hands it over to the politicians.
    To a certain extent it is easier to rebel in places like Egypt, Libia, Tunisia and Syria because the Governments are seen as the oppressors but in so-called democracies the serf citizens are unable to get over this notion that the oppressive Government is THEIR Government.
    To a certain extent the design of the so-called democracies is foolproof – give the citizens their vote, which is in fact usueless as regards CHANGING anything, and thus they cannot revolt. Revolt against whom? They elected their oppressors!
    More of this can be found at http://www.IrishCitizen.ie
    Cheers!

  288. asoka. February 14, 2012 at 3:59 pm #

    “Care about what other people think and you will always be their prisoner.”
    ? Lao Tzu

  289. progress2conserve February 14, 2012 at 4:01 pm #

    weasel
    At the risk of maligning a fellow mammal.
    And who would have thought that the spell checker would take “wiesel?” So I have also maligned a fine family name.
    My apologies for the inappropriate insults.
    The hate stands, however.

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  290. progress2conserve February 14, 2012 at 4:03 pm #

    “Walk into my camp and I will smash your skull.”
    -Og, the caveman-

  291. Qshtik February 14, 2012 at 4:04 pm #

    My an-10-ee are picking up signals.
    I know better than to make market predictions, especially on this blog (where I will be whipped and scourged for going off topic), as the market will make fools of 90% of those who try… but sometimes I can’t help myself.
    The activity, volume and percentage movement of an “investment” vehicle carrying the symbol VXX (not a stock, not an ETF but an ETN) is giving early signs (unless I am completely wrong, which I could be) of a market decline on increased volatility. You can make a bundle owning VXX in a sharp market sell off.
    At the very base of a pyramid of relationships on which VXX rests, having no more physical substance than an aura, an emotion, a thought or a light beam, is the S&P 500 Index. To own it (VXX that is) is to hold an M80 in your hand that has had three fourths of its fuse snipped off and a match being applied to it by someone with palsy. An explanation of this ETN and its basis may be found at the link below. I fully expect no one here will read this and it is just as well since it is as dense as a musing on fate, time and language by the late brilliant writer/philosopher David Foster Wallace. I have read it and have about as much understanding of it as I do of E = MC squared.
    What I am picking up via my antennae is that 30 minutes ago VXX was trading up precisely 8% while the underlying S&P 500 was down precisely .50%. This would be an inverse 16 to 1 relationship and highly unusual. Adding weight to my (weak) conviction that something is brewing is a perceptible increase in trading volume of VXX. Tangential support was reported by Mark Hulbert yesterday on CNBC that the data on insider selling of stocks is running at 8 times buy transactions.
    I am not suggesting for a minute that anyone purchase VXX on my say so but be assured if my vision pans out I will be shouting “I told you so” from the roof tops.
    https://www.etrade.wallst.com/v1/common/pdf.asp?docKey=1577-VXX-34FMNM86TMMT81RKPTI9QVMOKA

  292. asoka. February 14, 2012 at 4:12 pm #

    LOL! Now you are being hilarious, P2C.
    A little boy goes to his father and asks ‘Daddy, how was I born?’
    The father answers, ‘Well, son, I guess one day you will need to find out anyway! Your Mom and I first got together in a chat room on Yahoo. Then I set up a date via e-mail with your Mom and we met at a cyber-cafe. We sneaked into a secluded room, and googled each other. There your mother agreed to a download from my hard drive. As soon as I was ready to upload, we discovered that neither one of us had used a firewall, and since it was too late to hit the delete button, nine months later a little Pop-Up appeared that said: You got male!

  293. trippticket February 14, 2012 at 4:25 pm #

    “I wonder how the entymology of the REAL? “slavES” got so distorted??
    Did we give those slaves bunk information about insects or something?

  294. BeantownBill February 14, 2012 at 4:25 pm #

    You said:
    “The top eschelon want to create a new class of global aristocracy. They are trying to move humanity back a few centuries from enlightenment to darkness, using doublespeak as their weapon against everyone else.”
    I agree with the first sentence of your paragraph, but not the second. Bear with me for a little bit while I try to describe a future that may seem science fictional, but which I believe is very possible.
    I think that the natural course of social/political evolution is heading away from the concept of nation to a world where corporations rule. I think we are truly heading to a post-modern society where nano-tech and computers will change our existence in profound ways. This is an evolutionary inevitability independent of any elites.
    Besides human foolishness, a major obstacle to this occurring is lack of physical resources. Lack of oil, lack of food, lack of a clean, healthy environment – we know the drill. A stressful transition period between our present-day civilization and the post-modern one is ensuing against a backdrop of declining resources. This makes for a dangerous situation lasting for a period of time – 20 years, 30 years, who knows.
    I believe those we call TPTB are very well aware of this. Their current machinations result from their attempt to be well-placed in this new world, to maintain their high status indefinitely.
    I also believe they know that for humans to get through this transition period, the population must be reduced. Thus their actions admit to the possibility of a large human die-off without extinction; indeed, their actions may cause such a culling of the herd. But because they’re amoral, they will do anything to maintain and increase their status. They may even believe it’s necessary to give the human race a real short haircut in order for it to survive.
    So, I think that the so-called elite don’t want to drag us back into a dark age, but rather the opposite, by insuring they will still be in power in a world we can scarcely inmagine.

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  295. BeantownBill February 14, 2012 at 4:35 pm #

    But why would a war in Afghanistan even be necessary for this? We helped the Taliban rid the country of Russians. If we never went to war in the first place, we’d still be on ok terms with the Taliban. If they took over the country, we’d still have a good chance to get the oil, and if they didn’t, we’d still have the same chance because the Afghan people wouldn’t hate us.

  296. Qshtik February 14, 2012 at 4:39 pm #

    the entymology of
    ============
    etymology

  297. trippticket February 14, 2012 at 4:40 pm #

    I tried to reply to your comment last week about the population densities of hunter gatherers, but somehow I managed to erase my fairly lengthy and piquant retort just before clicking ‘submit’. Too pissed to rewrite it.
    The jist was that they had no staple crops, no agriculture, and therefore no capacity to achieve the population densities of farming cultures with their crops from all over the world. Also that a sharp drop in our perception of what a “need” is, coupled with a sharp rise in applied permaculture at every home site, could possibly allow our present population to survive.
    Not that there’s a chance in hell of that happening…

  298. progress2conserve February 14, 2012 at 4:41 pm #

    “Did we give those slaves bunk information about insects or something?”
    Nice catch, Tripp!
    Where did that extra “n” come from. anyway?
    etymology etymology etymology etymology etymology
    That’s what my 5th grade teacher would have made me do.
    And then use the word in a long sentence, P2C.
    On the day after societal collapse, and after adding an extra “n” to a single word, our Degreed Professor of Etymology – found himself picking bugs off the crops belonging to the neighborhood permaculturalist – all the while muttering, “Our Creator has an inordinate fondness for beetles. Our Creator has an inordinate fondness for beetles.”

  299. trippticket February 14, 2012 at 4:42 pm #

    “etymology”
    Your 112 is showing…

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  300. trippticket February 14, 2012 at 4:43 pm #

    lol 😀

  301. Qshtik February 14, 2012 at 4:44 pm #

    Sorry about the link. I don’t know why it is giving a blank screen.

  302. San Jose Mom 51 February 14, 2012 at 4:50 pm #

    The Yorkie owner wouldn’t give his name or let his face be photographed for fear of reprisal, but the newspaper referred to him as Miguel–not his real name. He is probably Latino.
    News update….some nice person gave him a Yorkie puppy!

  303. Widespreadpanic7 February 14, 2012 at 4:52 pm #

    Asoka you’re known here for laying it on thick but that post yesterday about ‘patriotism’ tops all. You might as well quit now because that post can never be beat. Don’t even try.
    –WSP7

  304. trippticket February 14, 2012 at 4:57 pm #

    I think there is at least a kernel of truth in the future you envisage, at least for a while. I see the world becoming increasingly technologically advanced for an increasingly smaller number of financial elites.
    However, based on my own view of the world, I’m not at all sure that the majority will give a damn.

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  305. messianicdruid February 14, 2012 at 4:58 pm #

    The secret six sent JB to kanza to stir up opposition to slavery so the south could be disenfranchised of its work force. Economic slaves, owned or rented, still serve the plantation minded overseers working for minimum wage, and fewer and fewer benefits as party timers.
    They have a big sign out here on the highway with the painting of JB of Kansas, with a bible in one hand and a double barrel shotgun in the other. The little town where the republicrat party got started claims to be the “Cradle of the Civil War” as if this were something to brag about.
    JBII won’t be funded by banksters. Its more like GaltII. Workers of the World, disperse!

  306. metuselah February 14, 2012 at 5:03 pm #

    I think that the natural course of social/political evolution is heading away from the concept of nation to a world where corporations rule. I think we are truly heading to a post-modern society where nano-tech and computers will change our existence in profound ways. This is an evolutionary inevitability independent of any elites.
    ==
    I strongly disagree with your assessment, Bill. And I bet a huge majority of people will also disagree with you when you say that that is the natural course of evolution. I don’t think what you’re describing is natural at all. Quite the opposite, it’s very unnatural. The “Superman” ideology is an ideology of death, marketed to idiots.
    Also, I don’t believe that there’s anything about our future that’s inevitable. The banks and the corporations, along with the shadow Vatican elite that controls them, can and will be overthrown. We are at a nascent stage in this development. But the psychological seeds, and stirring awareness for this revolution are already there.

  307. trippticket February 14, 2012 at 5:17 pm #

    Tripp to Bill: “I see the world becoming increasingly technologically advanced for an increasingly smaller number of financial elites.”
    At least until the critical mass of wealth-holders required to support technological infrastructure caves in, that is.

  308. metuselah February 14, 2012 at 5:26 pm #

    The Ideology of Superman: Defender of the Status Quo
    http://goo.gl/THKd9

  309. asoka. February 14, 2012 at 5:31 pm #

    Thanks, WSP7.
    I’m the only patriot here on this blog bothered by the fact that every week the country I love is disparaged and the people I love (both LEGAL and ILLEGAL) are scapegoated as the source of the country’s problems.
    I’m the only patriot on CFN with the guts to publicly pay respect to the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces with this statement:
    As a person, I love Barack Hussein Obama, the Commander in Chief of our Armed Forces.
    No one else is that patriotic. It’s OK, though. I’m used to marching to the beat of a different drummer, and I know CFN has many white racists, sunshine patriots, summer soldiers, and chicken hawks.

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  310. trippticket February 14, 2012 at 5:48 pm #

    As a former fairly typical American dude, I can at least describe how MY life has changed in 4 years of full-on energy descent. Maybe it will have some useful information embedded in it.
    My household is at the point where taking on any kind of debt seems absolutely foolish – pay cash or do without. We have an old reliable Japanese sedan that we keep in good repair and use as our primary transport, at the expense of many of the luxuries we used to consider normal; and a pickup truck that my grandmother gave me just before she died in October. That pickup is our potential last big paycheck, as we could probably pull 10k for it if we need to.
    Our only recurring bills are $47/mo for liability insurance on two vehicles, and $50/mo for a smart phone that also does duty as the modem for our laptop. Can’t really watch videos at Android speed. Our property taxes are about $50 this year on the piece of land we’re buying, and we don’t intend to tell the county anything different. We won’t involve them at all in our building project because we can’t afford to. We will be building a passive solar earthen house with a living roof and a small amount of off-grid electrical power (

  311. BeantownBill February 14, 2012 at 6:04 pm #

    It’s ok for you to disagree with me, Mika. Don’t forget, I’m basically an old techie. I do agree that most everyone would disagree with my posting. But every so often I feel the need to spread my mental wings and soar.
    Homo Sapiens has been changing and evolving since its inception. Why wouldn’t it continue to do so now? We have advancd to the point where we are about to self-evolve, that is, direct our own evolution. The universe itself is self-evolving. Does it really matter what entity, nature or ourselves, imparts evolution? So, in that sense, I don’t feel that what we are to become is unnatural. What we are now is transitory. We were different in the past and we will be still more different in the future.
    You are right that the future is not inevitable. But when I look at trends and the trend line, to me, they show where we are heading, and that’s how I base my life – according to Newton’s first law of motion: An object traveling with a certain velocity will continue to travel at that velocity unless and until a force is applied to it (FYI, velocity is comprised of two factors, speed and direction). So unless and until an external input is forced into our evolution as a species, I see us heading into a post-modern world. It is what it is, and there’s no reason to hate or fear it.
    But I am surprised that one who is a hard-bitten realist, such as yourself, thinks that TPTB will be overthrown. The Roman/Vatican entity, in one form or another has been around for 2,500 years. Surely during that very long time period other people have realized what the elite are doing, yet nobody has yet overthrown them. What makes you think that things are so different that it’ll happen now or in the near-future?

  312. asoka. February 14, 2012 at 6:05 pm #

    Tripp, sounds like you are going to come in below US$12,000 income and will not be paying any taxes to support drone bombers. Good for you! (and us!)

  313. BeantownBill February 14, 2012 at 6:19 pm #

    Hi, Tripp. Long time, no write. I’m surprised you at least in some manner agree with my post. When I was writing it I thought of a few people who would be vehently against it, and you were one of them. I’ve evolved a little in the past 2 years of my posting here. I used to believe our tech future is inevitable, but I’ve come to realize in may not. I’m certainly not abandoning my position, but I’m keeping a certain amount of scepticism.
    I don’t know how it is in Georgia, but in my neck of the woods it’s pretty hard to disguise ongoing construction from the authorities. It seems that someone in the area eventually contacts the local (maybe in your case, the county) building or health department, which results in a fine and tearing down of the structure, or you having to pay a bribe in the form of pulling permits for every phase of construction. You do live in a rural area, so maybe it’ll be ok for you. I just wanted you to be prepared for the revenooers dropping by.

  314. metuselah February 14, 2012 at 6:24 pm #

    But I am surprised that one who is a hard-bitten realist, such as yourself, thinks that TPTB will be overthrown. The Roman/Vatican entity, in one form or another has been around for 2,500 years. Surely during that very long time period other people have realized what the elite are doing, yet nobody has yet overthrown them.
    ==
    That’s not true, that they haven’t been overthrown. The elites have been overthrown many times, and by many different peoples. I’ll grant you that they’ve very successfully managed to reconstitute themselves and their system, but only through lies and deception, the use of ignorance and ignorant useful idiots, and a false dialectic. That avenue is quickly closing.

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  315. BeantownBill February 14, 2012 at 6:32 pm #

    Yeah, but will it last this time?

  316. metuselah February 14, 2012 at 6:40 pm #

    It could. It could be very lonely at the top. Especially when nobody wants anything to do with you.

  317. bubbleheadMarc February 14, 2012 at 6:43 pm #

    I think that you’re giving them too much credit in the cleverness department. Kind of like in a bad CIA film where the agents are extremely ruthless and competent. In real life, they’re not that competent.

  318. Vlad Krandz February 14, 2012 at 6:46 pm #

    But what kind of society as such men capable of creating? To me it sounds like they want a high tech medevial society with themselves as the Lords and Ladies complete with hunting lodges in the forests which are forbiden to any but themselves? Family Farms? No. Everybody in the cities except them and professional food growers.
    Any Space travel? I doubt it somehow. Practical and brilliant in deception, I don’t imagine them as having much curiousity. I could be wrong. In any case, I can’t see them as humanity’s best option, but they are the best candidates to survive what’s coming. They’ll come out strong, but I don’t think they’ll have China, or Islam conquered anytime soon.

  319. messianicdruid February 14, 2012 at 6:51 pm #

    Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries which are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments have become moth-eaten. Your gold and your silver have rusted; and their rust will be a witness against you and will
    consume your flesh like fire. It is in the last days that you have stored up your treasure! Behold, the pay of the laborers who mowed your fields, and which has been withheld by you, cries out against you; and the outcry of those who did the harvesting has reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth. You have lived luxuriously on the earth and led a life of wanton pleasure; you have
    fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. You have condemned and put to death the righteous man; he does not resist you. James 5:1-6

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  320. asoka. February 14, 2012 at 6:53 pm #

    I got upset because YOU are a WIESEL.
    Another hilarious comment. I do consider Elie Wiesel to be part of my family, the human family, though he is not a direct relation.
    You made me laugh though, so thanks! 🙂

  321. asoka. February 14, 2012 at 6:58 pm #

    the outcry of those who did the harvesting has reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth.
    Did they pass some kind of Alabama or Arizona anti-immigrant law? Papers, please?
    Some things just never change.

  322. Vlad Krandz February 14, 2012 at 7:26 pm #

    The Zionist Entity is older, stronger, and more evil.

  323. asoka. February 14, 2012 at 7:34 pm #

    Zionism got started with Hovevei Zion (lovers of Zion) societies in Russia and Romania promote agricultural settlement in the Land of Israel in the 1870s. Not very old.

  324. BeantownBill February 14, 2012 at 7:43 pm #

    The elite aren’t necessarily technologically brilliant, just political and money-making savy. I think they could keep/increase their wealth & power, but not to the extent of being a feudal lord. This type of technology can’t be kept from the general population, it’s too powerful.
    Re your last post: You know what’s older than the Jewish/Zionist or Roman/Vatican entities? Prejudice.

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  325. welles February 14, 2012 at 7:50 pm #

    trippy, you da man, you actually DO what people say needs to be done, i.e. reduce, recycle etc.
    please fill me in on the non-watered toilet lol, i’m all ears.
    btw my icelandic brother in law has an old ’87 suzuki swift that’s basically non compewterized so any failures are rectified by mechanical fix.
    is it so with your old nip sedan?
    jap joke: what do you call a japanese parachutist? drum roll reply: a little nip in the air….
    disclosure: am polish & grew up hearing pollock jokes and don’t associate these jokes with racism et al
    i chekked out solar power here in brazil and it’s extraordinarily cost ineffektiv, i.e. it
    ain’t worth it…even tho’ we got it up and running.
    trippy, what would the ‘economy’ look like if 80% of the population lived like you did?
    i’m curious, and not the best at extrapolating…so i’d be interested in your thoughts. how would people do business?
    would there be massive unemployment?
    seems so on the surface, but prolly wouldn’t play out that way…
    just some thots.
    peace peaceniks

  326. rippedthunder February 14, 2012 at 8:13 pm #

    Hey JB2, Bronson is still around, I have two yorkies and if some punks feel they have the right to even touch my dogs they are wrong. With one phone call I and can pull up a hundred ” brothers” and many of them are ex-vets and belong to the NRA. Stand- up guys for the most part. They actually know how to shoot and don’t hold their damn pistols sideways. I live in a quiet neck of the woods and really don’t see this as a problem around here.Sorry to here about the degradation of Californication. I lived there for a while in the ’70’s and really enjoyed the sate and the people. “Death Wish’ indeed! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071402/

  327. Pucker February 14, 2012 at 8:16 pm #

    BeantownBill wrote: “But why would a war in Afghanistan even be necessary for this?”
    Everybody needs a “Bogeyman” to unify the people and consolidate power.
    If the Afghans end up hating “us”, I suppose that it all depends upon who “us” is? Put several layers between the primitive, uneducation Pashtu base of the Taliban and “us” (e.g., Taliban leadership, Bad Pakistani ISI, Good Pakistani ISI, Saudis, Homer Simpson, Asoka, Vlad Krandz, the CIA, and your poor average Taliban Pashtu smuck’ll never know what’s going on. All they’ll know is who they’re told to hate, i.e., an amorphous bunch of “Infidels”.

  328. anti soak February 14, 2012 at 8:19 pm #

    ‘That’s the White People’s job!’
    Yes I meet them here in LA…Africans, Filipinos,
    Chinese etc.They want the Scholarships and aid [esp the Russians, yikes]..but dont want to do anything charitable far as I can see.

  329. Pucker February 14, 2012 at 8:22 pm #

    Also, the U.S. may have an interest in building up a radicalized Taliban to be a pimple on Russia’s ass, and a pain in Iran’s neck. Once the U.S. pulls out of Afghanistan traditional religious, ethnic, and nationalistic animosities will re-emerge to pit the Taliban against the nearest neighboring Infidels. FART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  330. jackieblue2u February 14, 2012 at 8:30 pm #

    I don’t recall saying that.
    maybe I did.
    and YES I almost never wear bright red here.
    and NO not afraid I will get killed over my screen name, blue.

  331. mika. February 14, 2012 at 8:32 pm #

    A brain fart indeed, Rhino.
    Can’t wait to see your expression when them Iranian/Russian/Chinese/Indian/Pakistani/Israeli/Taliban nukes start exploding in your face.

  332. jackieblue2u February 14, 2012 at 8:36 pm #

    I really love animals also.
    Children need animals I believe, and some adults.
    I recently met someone who doesn’t like animals.
    Can’t understand, but to each his own.
    I read the story in the local paper today,
    the bastards stomped the doggie to death.
    If I was the man well, I just hope justice happens.
    It’s a sickening story.
    Several guys beating on one guy and a little dog, and killing the dog. Very maddening and saddening.

  333. mika. February 14, 2012 at 8:53 pm #

    The Real Banking Problem 02/13 by TickerGuy
    http://goo.gl/gFYnc

  334. jackieblue2u February 14, 2012 at 9:02 pm #

    I was borned here.
    lived here, except tried tempe az for 1 month,
    my b/f at the time lived there.
    also tried different parts of CA, always back to central coast.
    but things are changing, pace of life too fast.
    too many undesirables. etc.
    but yeah love love love charles bronson.
    that’s justice.
    take the law into your own hands.
    I mean wtf? leave it to cops ? I think not.
    I don’t get it.

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  335. mika. February 14, 2012 at 9:12 pm #

    My Country My Ass
    http://goo.gl/UderH

  336. rippedthunder February 14, 2012 at 9:43 pm #

    As they say “When seconds count,the cops are only minutes away!” I’ve got lots of cop friends. They can’t be everywhere at once. I always had German Shepards. They eat and shed like crazy. Not to mention the barrels of shit I had to pick up when the snow melted. Now I’m older and the kids are gone.So I’ve got the yorkies! I think the’re even smarter then the shepards and they live longer, eat 1/4 as much, don’t shed, and shit like rabbits. Nothing worse than when your best friend dies at 10-11 years old. Big dogs don’t live long.

  337. anti soak February 14, 2012 at 9:47 pm #

    I found this comment at SBPDL under ‘Cute Meet’
    article.
    I found online that 42% of Black females are unmarried, while this commenter says most:
    Most black girls know they will never be married. I taught at a black high school for several years. One day I took my class to a local art museum that is one of my favorites.
    This particular place has thousands of spring flowers planted. Local girls often take pre-wedding photos there in their wedding dress.
    My wife did. The black girls getting off the bus were full of venom. “Look how cheap that dress b” “her man out screwing utter dude” and other kind catcalls. I could not believe the level of hostility.
    It shocked me. They realized a Meet-cute is not in their future and don’t feel good about it…
    the gals from the hood shocked him!

  338. anti soak February 14, 2012 at 9:50 pm #

    ‘I really love animals also.’
    Are you vegan? Vegetarian?
    If you tend animals what do you feed them?
    Cats are carnivores and must eat meat.
    Large dogs also usually need meat.
    Its said in a human life a human in USA eats 20,000
    animals.

  339. anti soak February 14, 2012 at 9:59 pm #

    RE:
    ‘progress2conserve replied to comment from anti soak | February 12, 2012 11:11 PM | Reply
    OK, antiSoak – let me show you how third person address works.
    Asoka. is taking a SERIOUS new run at remaining the Resident Impediment over this “I love my country” stuff.’
    Actually I want to know what Nixon attempted with ‘ending emma lazarus’s huddled masses’.

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  340. queenie February 14, 2012 at 10:05 pm #

    During what we call the “Dark Ages” (after the fall of Rome to the Germanic tribes) Christianity was carried on by the the Eastern Orthodox Christians in their capital Constantinople. There were numerous raids by Mongol tribes to the East.
    In the 7th century the Prophet Mohammad founded Islam and under Islam a civilization grew up, prospering beyond that of Rome. Like Rome, the Islamic peoples depended on slavery to do the dirty work. Islam spread into Europe., conquering and taking slaves.
    It was the Turks that regularly raided the Slavic nations of the present (or former) Yugoslavia & that area. The Slavs remained faithful to Christianity, tho it is practiced slightly differently, the theology is the same.
    So the Turks called the people who did their dirty work, and were often made Eunochs, “Slavs” because that is who they were. Other Muslims started to use the word and in places it was pronounced as “slave”.
    There is stil much hatred in the regions where the two cultures intersect which is why Yugoslavia fell apart after the death of Tito, who had ruled like Stalin. The conflict between Orthodox Christianity and Islam continues to this day. In the 1500, Muslim forces had surrounded Vienna.
    But in the 12th. century, The Christian forces of England, France and the the German states ruled in Jerusalem. Those grudges continue to this day.
    In America we like to believe that we have left the troubles of Europe behind. But the Muslims still intend to conquer the world so that everyone will believe in the Prophet Mohammed.
    The U.S. paid little attention to the Middle east, dismissing it as “Europe’s problem” until they found all that oil.
    BTW, Constantinople is now known as Istanbul.

  341. xhalor February 14, 2012 at 10:09 pm #

    And people wonder why I’m an atheist.

  342. progress2conserve February 14, 2012 at 10:27 pm #

    AntiS,
    The Nixon population reference last week came from this .pdf by Tony Federer. It’s 146 pages, and I don’t know a thing about it – except from a quick scan so far.
    http://home.roadrunner.com/~stfederer/ecoshift/ecoshift.pdf
    “In 1970 the population of the United States was 203 million and President Nixon’s Commission on Population Growth and the American Future recommended stabilizing it as soon as possible. Yet the numbers passed 300 million in October 2006..”
    =================
    And, apparently Stephanie Mills is now too old to ever have children and is accused by the author of this .pdf of “ecocentrism.” Immigration reduction sounds like a benign form of ecocentrism, but I’m unable to find any more information about Ms. Mills belief on US population control.
    “In the Service of the Wild” by Stephanie Mills documents the fervor one can feel in doing restoration work. Getting hooked on protecting acharismatic species or attacking an exotic invasive species has led many people into ecocentrism.” -tony federer-

  343. progress2conserve February 14, 2012 at 10:47 pm #

    Met –
    Your reply to BTB about his dystopian view of the future is about the most optimistic thing I’ve ever seen you write on CFN.
    “Also, I don’t believe that there’s anything about our future that’s inevitable. The banks and the corporations, along with the shadow Vatican elite that controls them, can and will be overthrown. We are at a nascent stage in this development.”
    -met-
    I hope you are right, Met. I’m not sure how calling some of us “blue eyed devil dogs” helps this overthrow, but – different strokes/different folks, I suppose.
    =========================
    I do believe that BTB may be on to something that you might want to consider as well, Met, when he says to vlad:
    “Re your last post: You know what’s older than the Jewish/Zionist or Roman/Vatican entities? Prejudice.”
    =========================
    and regarding *, from earlier
    I was actually going to address this statement of yours, concerning slavery and the Slavic peoples.
    “By whom? Who were the slave masters?” -met-
    Because it sounded to me as though you must be thinking that the Slavs were enslaved by some Vatican enterprise. But Queenie spilled the beans in his very informative post – saying that the slavemasters of the Slavs were Muslim. So, never mind on this one, Met.

  344. Buck Stud February 14, 2012 at 10:51 pm #

    When a particular person reveal ignorance in your particular area of expertise, it’s only natural to assume they are a flapping sciolist in other areas as well. But then again, who wants to stare at empty pages.

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  345. Pucker February 14, 2012 at 10:59 pm #

    I’ve had several dreams over the last few months in which the dream and reality seemingly intersect. Typically, I will be in the midst of a dream during which an outside event in the non-dream real world will insert itself at the exactly appropriate time according to the dream story line, such that the outside real-world event is not an interruption of the dream, but rather apparently a seamless part of the dream.
    Examples include music in the outside real world which starts playing at exactly the appropriate time according to the dream story line. Or, a voice from the T.V. or a neighbor, which is spoken at exactly the appropriate time according to the dream story line. Weird…

  346. xhalor February 14, 2012 at 11:03 pm #

    Clearly, you got the good shit.

  347. xhalor February 14, 2012 at 11:04 pm #

    I could write a cheque for $5.00?

  348. Pucker February 14, 2012 at 11:22 pm #

    Maybe…but as Dr. Jekyll discovered, the chemical transformation is only possible if there is the appropriate “impurity” in the formula.
    Thus, the “Good Shit” won’t work. Poor Dr. Jekyll kept screaming at his assistant that the new chemicals obtained from the pharmacist were “not pure”, but, only later did Dr. Jekyll realize that the new chemicals were, in fact, “pure”, and that it was the original batch of chemicals (which made the transformation possible) that contained an “impurity”. In other words, be careful what you wish for.

  349. Vlad Krandz February 14, 2012 at 11:23 pm #

    Were they Hispanics? Mexican culture isn’t big on loving animals: cock fights, dog fights, horse tripping…

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  350. progress2conserve February 14, 2012 at 11:24 pm #

    “Tonight was my co-worker’s last night. They’re sending him to Afghanistan tomorrow.
    The lack of sympathy for him amazed me. This is a good-natured guy who has never been mean to anyone.” -WageL-
    Nice post, Wage, and I see you already got a couple of good responses to it, including a good one from Eleuthero. I just want to give a different perspective.
    I think the middle class of this country is getting way-far beyond war weary, but we don’t know what to do about it. “Attacking?” your coworker is a symptom of this, perhaps. I assume you work with people who would not burn a flag, or express much open defiance of the government – but that doesn’t mean that they don’t know what is going on.
    So – you are upset that they did not express “sympathy” at the man’s deployment to Afghanistan. I don’t think the man deserves sympathy. I highly doubt he wants sympathy.
    I don’t express sympathy for Ripped Thunder or for my own kid when either of them has to go into a burning house, after all. It’s the life they chose, the duty they chose. Even though the thought of it scares the hell out of me sometimes because I’ve got a son in that line of work. But I’m thankful that there are guys like that around. And I’m proud I raised one of them.
    Another thing that your coworkers may be reacting to – and this is a half-formed thought, at best –
    but, maybe they understand that life is full of risks, and that the chances are pretty Damn good that your coworker will rotate back home in a year or less with his skin intact.
    100’s of thousands of guys have rotated through Iraq and Afghanistan. “Only?” 5000 have been killed. Don’t get me wrong, that’s 5,000 too damn many. Still, the odds of surviving a deployment are pretty good. That doesn’t anyone should want to go, don’t get me wrong. And don’t you have a bunch of military types, cop types, and prison guard types in your work people’s families, Wage? Maybe they are evaluating the odds and consequences of this man’s deployment differently than you.
    ==========
    Unbelievable. Consuming ourselves? You betcha.”
    -wage-
    No argument about that at all, though, Wage.
    In the big picture – no argument from me at all.

  351. xhalor February 14, 2012 at 11:31 pm #

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8RIs4Xgevo

  352. progress2conserve February 14, 2012 at 11:35 pm #

    I’ve got to try to clarify this:
    “I think the middle class of this country is getting way-far beyond war weary, but we don’t know what to do about it.” -p2c-
    I don’t presume to speak for the whole middle class. I speak for “some?” of that portion of the middle class that has family members and/or friends in the military – and subject to these ongoing wars without end.
    It’s a sore subject.
    I’ve probably already said more than enough about it for now.

  353. Vlad Krandz February 14, 2012 at 11:36 pm #

    How do you know it’s at excatly the same time? You’d have to be awake in the physical and dream world at the same time to know that. More likely your dream world reconfigures to match the outside stimuli and you just don’t remember what the dream context was before. In other words, your dream memory changes as your dream content changes.
    That’s why we remember so little of our childhood: “we” weren’t there. The little person who was there was very alien to who we are now. And we to them. The gap is so great it’s difficult to bridge. And even when we do, how objectively correct is it?
    As Lovecraft said, the self of dream and the physical self cannot meet – and it is well. What would I not do if I could find my Enemy in this world as I do there? How I long to burn my way up destroying all in my path, him most of all. And once done, who here would be so no longer? Perhaps tonight is the night and tomorrow the day. And who will know – or knowing prove? This way is better.

  354. San Jose Mom 51 February 14, 2012 at 11:57 pm #

    Greetings,
    I just finished reading “The Fourth Turning” by William Strauss and Neil Howe. I read it because it was mentioned on this blog–I don’t remember who referenced this book.
    This book was very interesting and prophetic. Written in the late 1990’s, some of the predictions about the “Fourth Turning” have come in right on the money.
    Do any of you know of any current discussion groups on this topic? I googled and couldn’t find anything that was particularly current.
    Jen

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  355. Qshtik February 15, 2012 at 12:03 am #

    I was borned here.
    ===============
    Never heard it said that way before but, hey, why shouldn’t borned be the past tense of born?

  356. Pucker February 15, 2012 at 12:20 am #

    I’m not so sure….
    I believe that a person’s conscious rational mind, and his/her unconscious irrational mind work simultaneously at different levels. For example, a man giving a speech to a large audience who notices the large, plump, succulent breasts of a woman in the audience.
    Thus, one could theoretically be (at least partially) conscious with his/her unconsious mind still in a dream state. For example, it is possible for a man/woman to murder someone without being conscious of the murder.

  357. Qshtik February 15, 2012 at 12:20 am #

    As a person, I love Barack Hussein Obama, the Commander in Chief of our Armed Forces.
    ============
    You as a person or Obama as a person?
    In either case a meaningless and nonsensical statement. Some people are taken in by this sort of thing and will say: That Asoka, what a sweet guy.

  358. Pucker February 15, 2012 at 12:22 am #

    In my particular case, one question is: Why does the unconsious mind seemingly have the ability to perceive what will happen in the real world a priori before the particular event in the real world occurs? Bizarre….

  359. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 12:35 am #

    Yes Western Culture is under a full scale attack. The Elite are using homosexuality and feminism to demoralize us and to decrease the population. Can it get worse? Perhaps. They’re already teaching it in the classroom, what if they begin to give practicums? There has already been talk of affirmative action for gays, but nothing beyond that – yet.
    Check out this Amren article about a Black mutiny during WW2. Alot of ex military comment about Blacks shooting officers during Vietnam, running away during battle, raping women, mugging Whites on ships etc. All during WW2 it was if they were fighting for the other side. It would be better if all Black were pacificists like our own great patriot, Asoka.
    http://amren.com/news/2012/02/cover-up-of-townsville-mutiny-black-gis-turned-on-officers/

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  360. progress2conserve February 15, 2012 at 12:38 am #

    Random.
    http://palinsdirtylittlesecret.blogspot.com/
    Here’s a new conspiracy theory for you, boys and girls. ciatookovermediaclick4proof

  361. BeantownBill February 15, 2012 at 12:46 am #

    I’m very surprised that you would consider my view of the future dystopian, Procon, when I was trying to show how awe-inspiring it could be with technological advancement and the resultant personal freedom of the masses because of that technology. I think youdidn’t understand one of the main points of my post.

  362. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 12:47 am #

    I’ve noticed that I’ll think of something and then realize a minute later that I saw something earlier in the day or just a second ago that brought it to mind thru association. So I think you’re right I guess. But in dreams, time is very distorted. An few minutes of time here can seem like ages there. Anything we bring back is likely to be very distorted by our ego mind which tries to make sense of it.
    Often I’ve realized that I’ll go from just observing to being a character and then another one and then back to just observing again. Or one character becomes another one. So the waking mind can’t make much sense out of it because there is none – or sometimes symbolically there is. One time a little dog was trying to bite me and I was kicking at him. I was afraid because I knew his bite was poisonous. Thinking about it later, I realized it was my aversion to the little details of life, like paying bills etc – things that must be done but are without joy. But the pain of not doing them is very great thus the poison.

  363. BeantownBill February 15, 2012 at 12:51 am #

    Your statement about the mind working on different levels simultaneously seems correct to me. but I don’t think someone could murder without consciously knowing it unless they were in a fugue state or otherwise seriously mentally ill.

  364. Eleuthero February 15, 2012 at 12:53 am #

    Wage said:
    Houses should not be looked at as sources of wealth. They are places to live, and, as you pointed out, hopefully, by the time people are retired, they will own them free and clear.
    **********************************************************
    The idea of a house as an “investment” really took wing in the 1980s. It’s an insane notion. Housing is a necessity of civilized life and the inflation of housing prices from 1.8X household income in 1960 to more than 4X currently (even after the decline) pushes most families right up against the wall such that at the end of the month, the amount left for savings or emergencies is a pittance.
    Housing is the CENTRAL FOCUS of our economic disaster and forms the bulk of household debt. What makes this even worse is the enormous amount of installment credit debt on top of that plus the decline in equity in houses.
    Bush’s “ownership” society is now turned on its ear and many are frantically selling homes at a rate that puts the percentage of ownership to levels not seen since the mid 1960s. Only in the mid 1960s you actually ;had immediate equity because the 20% down payment was not optional. No “liar’s loans” back then.
    Our middle class is fucked largely because of housing and as long as new homes cost more than 4X median household incomes, this albatross will stay around the middle class’s neck until there is no middle class any more.
    E.

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  365. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 12:56 am #

    You are a punk who needs his ass kicked. In “love” with Obama. Why don’t you get some dignity you Black Ass Clown?

  366. Buck Stud February 15, 2012 at 1:09 am #

    ” One time a little dog was trying to bite me and I was kicking at him. I was afraid because I knew his bite was poisonous. ”
    Or perhaps you remembered yourself from earlier in the day: Vlad The Chihuahua, nipping at Lbendet’s heels 🙂

  367. anti soak February 15, 2012 at 1:24 am #

    Puppy Mills, Bull Fights!

  368. k-dog February 15, 2012 at 1:39 am #

    Very good shit.

  369. Pucker February 15, 2012 at 1:41 am #

    Actually, I believe that there’s a case that some criminal law professors used to discuss in which the defendant kills someone while intoxicated, and he can’t remember the murder. It goes to the element of “mental state”, (mens rea). For most crimes, the defendant has to have the relevant mental state.
    I have a friend who once told me that once when he was in college that he got drunk at a party and woke up the next morning in bed with some girl. He insists that he can’t remember anything after the party, and that he would have had to have driven his car 5 miles to the girl’s apartment, which he can’t remember. The human mind is a tricky subject.

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  370. Eleuthero February 15, 2012 at 1:44 am #

    Vlad,
    Asoka disavowed his love for Obama just a few months ago. His opinions on many things change more often than the weather. His modus operandi, disguised as Buddhistic “enlightenment”, is to piss people off by misinterpreting their point, nitpicking an irrelevant point tangential to an argument, using statistics to misinform, and uttering minuscule positives to make you feel guilty that you’re concerned about GIGANTIC negatives.
    The only way to deal with him is SILENCE. Now and then I like to reply to his most odious misrepresentations and tactics by verbally knocking him on his ass. He’s had my vote as most repulsive member of CFN for a long time.
    E.

  371. Bustin J February 15, 2012 at 1:46 am #

    ANTI SOAK SAID, “THE LEFT HAS NO PROBLEM WITH SAYING THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS GENETICALLY DETERMINED, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO LOW INTELLIGENCE OR CRIMINALITY, THEY HAVE A HARD TIME WITH ADMITTING THAT THESE ARE INHERITED. ”
    The “base” is slow. The “real left” already knows these things. Perhaps you are too familiar with “the base”.

  372. Pucker February 15, 2012 at 1:58 am #

    “Hello…Is this the front desk? Uh yeah…uh…I need to get another room.”
    “What’s wrong with your room?”
    “There are too many bugs in my room.”
    “Bugs?”
    “Yeah…bugs….”
    http://www.spytechs.com/bug_sweep_equip/default.htm

  373. Bustin J February 15, 2012 at 1:59 am #

    Trip said “That pickup is our potential last big paycheck, as we could probably pull 10k for it if we need to.”
    You seriously won’t sell it in time to make that money. You treat it like an heirloom. I know the feeling. Vehicles of any kind just depreciate.
    Invest in VXX I hear its hot.

  374. asoka. February 15, 2012 at 2:15 am #

    Asoka disavowed his love for Obama just a few months ago.

    No, I disavowed Obama’s policies and changed my support to Jill Stein. As a person, I still love Obama.

    His opinions on many things change more often than the weather.

    No, my basic values have not changed over seven years of posting on CFN. I have consistently said world population should be reduced. I have consistently promoted nonviolence, I have consistently advocated a simple lifestyle, voluntary energy descent, etc. I’m not going to list all my positions again. I’m just pointing out that on the important things I have been consistent over a seven year period.
    The rest of what you say is your opinion, and you are entitled to have an opinion.

    The only way to deal with him is SILENCE. Now and then I like to reply to his most odious misrepresentations and tactics by verbally knocking him on his ass.

    You are contradicting yourself here. Replying is not SILENCE. I am in agreement that your SILENCE would be preferable, but you don’t seem to be capable of practicing what you are preaching here on CFN.
    Even though I do not agree with your perspective as misanthrope, I certainly respect your right to be a misanthrope.
    I read all your posts and enjoy them. And I like you as a person. Nothing you can do can change my favorable opinion of you. That is out of your control.

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  375. old69 February 15, 2012 at 3:24 am #

    Give Us Back Good Old FASCISM…
    In the 70s or 80s that which is happening in Greece would be considered, under all points of views, a Right Wing Fascist Type Coup, a Pinochet style change in government, it would be considered a pure Fascist like take of power on behalf of the Powers That Be (which are mostly the Capitalist, Free Market Ideology, Globalism Bible, Punish Workers and Anyone who is not a Superstar Winner like “Germany” and such) that want to impose a complete doctrine, an Economical Doctrine that is considered the Absolute Truth, the Bible Straight From GOD’s Mouth about how a society should function and Who Should Pay For it, etc. Or it would be seen as an Act Of War upon an entire population, a Declaration of War against the state of Greece.
    And, just as Fascist and Pinochet type governments have done in the past, the entire idea is based on Punish Workers, especially Public and Government Workers which are considered thieves, not worthy, criminals, bad people stealing money from the really hard working Rich Capitalists and Financial Market Elites, etc.
    But especially what is absurd and wrong is this completely dominating and brainwashing constant Drone of “Economic Growth”, to be “More Competitive”, to increase “Productivity”, etc. when these concepts are 1) Totally undefined, unclear, abstract, impossible to pinpoint down in practice; 2) Even if and when defined somewhat, have nothing at all to do with the medicine that societies are supposed to take to become so much more “Healthy”; 3) Do not take into account none of all of the Non Linear and completely new effects a globalized, Technological Economy that now has automation, job killing technologies and millions of very cheap and very capable workers from entire continents now available and eager and willing to take jobs away from the (once was ?) “First World” (but only from those areas deemed evil and bad and deserving to be Punished like Detroit, or Greece, or Portugal or any other of so many regions within North America and Europe).
    This constant use of words like “Competitiveness” and “Productivity” especially is so totally saturating all discourse on why the economy sucks, is considered an absolute moral truth, is considered some kind of absolute bible that no one dare doubt and put in discussion: but as soon as you try to really understand what these words mean and how are they supposed to be applied you discover that they are void of any meaning, non applicable and just a place holder and excuse to rob from the poor and give to the rich, to punish in all possible ways the working class, to punish entire countries and people, punish the victim and let the victim blame himself, punish anyone who does not abide to such a high and strict and stringent standard, just like the German corporations that are the Winners, and Greece and Portugal and Ireland should also build corporations capable of building BMWs, Mercedes and Audis and sell millions of them across the world since they are mostly Status Symbols, just like the Apple IPHONE and such, and if they do not they deserve to be punished, they deserve to be beat up by the worldwide Morality Police and such.
    Does anyone ever ask themselves, “Who are we Competing Against” ? “Exactly in what arena and in what endeavors are we “Competing against and For”” ? Exactly what are we “Producing” that must be produced even more and faster and with less inputs (mostly less workers and/or less salaries to workers). No one knows, no one questions this, no one cares, but if you are not “Competitive” and “Productive” enough your “Economy Will Not Grow” and such. What on earth does that possibly mean ? Are we competing against maybe South Korea in flat screen TVs and smart phones ? is that why Greece must be punished ? Are they not producing enough Luxury Cars like Germany ? Is that why Greece must be punished and such ?
    What a boatload of crap all of these economists and the dominating ideology want to shove down everyone’s throat worldwide: why not just cut the crap and install right out FASCIST DICTATORSHIPS THAT CAN FREELY FIRE ALL WORKERS, CUT THEIR SALARIES PRIVATIZE THE ECONOMY AND DO WHATEVER THE HELL THE MODERN ECONOMIC BIBLE IMPOSES WITHOUT ALL OF THE FAKE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS BULLSHIT, WITHOUT ALL OF THE FAKE CONSENSUS BULLSHIT AND SUCH!
    Please give us back the Good Old Fascist Governments like Pinochet, please give us back the good old fascists, they look so much more honest and genuine and not hypocritical as today, give us a dictatorship that will simply impose the bible of “Economic Growth” and “Competitiveness” and “Productivity” by force, as it should be, as it really is being done, only they want you to believe that there is some kind of consensus and “Democratic Process” behind it when it is one gigantic lie. Just be honest and cut the crap, impose whatever you want, whatever the Modern Economic Theory imposes as Correct: but they don’t want to because then when all of their statistics fail in the future because of this they would have no one else to blame but themselves and their fairy tale Economic Theory (since the entire Economic Theory and debate is based on Numbers and trying to make the numbers or forcing the numbers to coincide with an imaginary “success” like “Economic Growth Numbers”, Unemployment Numbers and such, but the numbers are essentially all fake and made up anyways, the Greeks aren’t the only ones who made up numbers, the entire world of Economics is one gigantic making up numbers and lying as much as possible).
    One day I am an extreme right wing thug, the next a left wing thug, the next an anarchist the next Pro Business and Pro Capitalist and Pro the Standard Economic Theory, the next anything at all, always changing “Political Positions”, since all positions are wrong and right, it is all useless anyways, everything will happen anyways no matter what.
    But that is part of the general philosophical problem of the flow of new configurations in your memory and the idea that you are “progressing”: if you set up the sequence of information configurations your Man Brain has been exposed to since birth and all the rules and knowledge and the idea that you are wise and such and see them one after another, you think you are progressing: but it is not so, you can jump to any past configuration in a jiffy and always be back to where you where, they are all equivalent all wrong and all right, all a combination of all others, all changing and never advancing, or advancing in any way you want to invent that they are advancing…

  376. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 3:30 am #

    You are a White Punk and Asoka a Black one. Salt and Pepper – so beautiful. You guys should have your own cop show.

  377. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 3:34 am #

    You denied any role for genetics in IQ the other day – an extreme but popular viewpoint. Do you now recant?
    We on the Right have always allowed for both nature and nurture. You on the Left have never been able to accept genetics – because it destroys your Idol of Egalitarianism.

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  379. Eleuthero February 15, 2012 at 4:15 am #

    Asoka said:
    Even though I do not agree with your perspective as misanthrope, I certainly respect your right to be a misanthrope.
    ***********************************************************
    I have consistently said that the working man/middle class is in dire trouble while you, from the comfort of your living room, get to be optimistic because you, personally, are not suffering. I’m not suffering either but my point is that the REAL misanthrope is the person who lacks EMPATHY with people who are less fortunate. You are just such a person. Until misfortune strikes you, personally, everything is just wonderful.
    You are a monster who disguises himself as a spiritually advanced being. I’m not a Christian but I love the Christian depiction of LUCIFER as a wily philosopher who deceives people into thinking that bearing a lantern makes him a true source of light. You are such a person. Only Lucifer was more clever and far less self-congratulatory than you. You are too transparent to be a subtle deceiver which only renders you a pain in the ass.
    You like me, eh? I don’t think you’re capable of “like” much less love.
    E.

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  380. asoka. February 15, 2012 at 5:09 am #

    Until misfortune strikes you, personally, everything is just wonderful.

    Misfortune strikes everyone. We have no choice about that. Old age, sickness, death, are inevitable, as well as the other things in the interim. Misfortune is guaranteed.
    I have seen my share of misfortune, and almost died several times from things like broken bones, major illnesses, war, and surgeries. I have also experienced poverty, a dysfunctional nuclear family complete with physical and emotional abuse, unemployment, major relationships that did not work out, etc. etc. etc.
    These are things some think of as “misfortune.” Been there, done that.
    I have probably seen more misfortune than you … as a result of wartime experiences in the Third World that almost led to my death. I have suffered in ways you most assuredly have not.
    But my reaction, the way I have assimilated my experiences of misfortune, has not led to my becoming angry or hateful or cynical or bitter or jaded or pessimistic about human nature.
    I am a realist, based upon real life experience. Your amateur psychological assessments, based on nothing but words posted on CFN, are not realistic. They are comical.
    You, the mighty statistician and champion of the middle class, seem to think misfortune and happiness cannot coexist. That says something about you, not about me.
    In spite of the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, I have not been beaten down, my spirit has not been broken.
    I am grateful for life’s misfortune since, as Nietzsche said, “That which does not kill us makes us stronger.”
    I am not well off financially. I was not born with a certain privilege that helps one become a community college instructor and retire with a good CalPERS or CalSTRS pension.
    But I am triumphant, because I am happy and in love. Yes, everything is just wonderful.

  381. old69 February 15, 2012 at 5:56 am #

    And what is happening to Greece reminds me of what happened ten years ago in Argentina: they had their currency tied to the US dollar but could not keep such a high evaluation of their currency compared to their economy, hence they had to disconnect their currency from the dollar and such.
    Anyways, it is truly absurd that such a large continent economically wise as Europe can’t save 10 million people from poverty: the European economy GDP is more than 10 trillion euros and they can’t support maybe 100 billion Euros extra for a small insignificant region of itself, 300 million people can’t save 10 million, what c*cks !?!
    Europe sucks, should be absorbed by the USA or China, they are all special little turds, the place is a piece of crap, hate them with all of your guts, please. Oh, Norway is his own little special turd that can’t be inside a federal union, England the same, Switzerland the same (all the rich hogs want to keep on hogging the money they robbed from everyone else, slobs, snotty snobs and turds, hate them please, with all of your guts, please).
    If you are not a Superstar Economy like Germany then you deserve to die: now how idiotic can you possibly be !?!?! It is like the USA wants Missouri or Oklahoma to be like Silicon Valley California and such ! Are they sick turds and crazy ?!?! Hate them with all of your guts, please.
    And then all of the jobs and wealth that Germany has (since they work so hard and are so Competitive and such) are the jobs all the weaker countries in Europe lost since they can’t compete with Germany and such.
    So as you see, the system is all about increasing inequality, is all about Winner take all, like Apple that is the winner and takes all and such. The system worships inequality, it does all it can to increase and affirm and produce inequality, but then turns around and beats up the loser because the loser isn’t as good as the winner, and the loser is blamed for not being the winner and must become a winner no matter what. Now how turdy and crappy can you get !?!? Are they sick in the head or what ?!?!
    Hey Detroit is not Silicon Valley so Detroit must be punished, this is the idea, get it ?
    What turds, hate them please with all of your guts, please.

  382. old69 February 15, 2012 at 8:15 am #

    So they want to change the minimum salary in Greece to 400 Dollars a month: Pretty cool, hu ? So let’s see: India and China factory workers are from 50 to 200 dollars a month accordingly, so another 2 slashes on the Greek minimum wage, say 200 and then 100 dollars a month (maybe at 100 dollars a month, Greek workers will have finally become “Competitive”, “Productive” and worthy of still surviving and not starving to death, but alas, they still are not Germany…) and finally Greece will be firmly within the pay range of most of the world (mostly the Third World Pay Range as the Modern Economic Model considers correct and morally just as this Model is given to you directly from GOD and his Absolute Truth Bible on all Economic Affairs).
    And they want to fire thousands of Government Paid Workers (everybody loves to fire Government Workers, everybody loves to hate people paid by the governments, it is such a fun worldwide sport, freely hate anyone’s guts since they are paid by the governments, really cool: this begs the question: if you keep on firing people, who the hell will have any money to buy the real goods produced by the efficient “competitive and productive” private sector anyways ?).
    I think these economists and theorists are kind of living in the past: just because a short lived model of economic success based on innovation and startups and competitive companies provided a lot of new wealth in the US and JAPAN and parts of Europe during the booming 1970s to 1990s, and mostly because of a very specific and quirkry development in new Technologies, Computers, Software, Internet and Others, it is expected that this model is now the bible and will work forever and will be true forever and such. Hence, any place in the world that does not follow this bible is doomed to starve to death and such.
    But this model is Utopia, a fairy tale, impossible to achieve and expect that ever country worldwide follows this, except for a few places that have been doing their homework for decades like Germany, JAPAN, Silicon Valley, now South Korea (becoming a real Economic Powerhouse) some other places and areas, and some other sectors, etc.
    After all, Germany has always been an Industrial and Technological Powerhouse, hell, they fought the entire World War II for 5 years against the entire world, all by themselves, of course they are special, they have always had a huge Industrial Base, built tanks, weapons, you name it, they have always been economic winners, good for them.
    But how on earth can you expect puny countries like Portugal, Ireland, Greece, a good chunk of Italy (Southern Italy) a good chunk of Spain, etc. to be even closely as competitive as them ? That is absurd, that is just an excuse to beat someone up, the Powers that Be are Bored, are having a field day being Bullies and beating up poorer economic regions, accusing them of not being Industrial, Economic, Technological and Scientific Powerhouses.
    Why not beat up Somalia, and ask them why they aren’t creating new Microprocessor Industries like Intel and companies like Apple ? Why are you not Bill Gates and Steve Jobs ? So if you are not Steve Jobs, you deserve to be beat up and starve to death, great, what an idiotic Standard Economic Model all of these economists believe in, and to think these clowns pay large amounts of money to universities to get degrees in this stuff, you couldn’t invent this insanity if you wanted to.
    On the past configurations stuff, also, everything that happened in the past not only repeats (always slightly differently), but everything you thought you acquired, solved and conquered is back to zero again, maybe was all wrong, maybe will always be all wrong, and so you go back and forth forever, all different configurations of information the Man Brain remembers or processes, but mostly fails to achieve ever. Amen.
    Just like I was reading how bad government involvement in the economy can be, how much waste and corruption and such it lends itself to, right, but the alternative, any alternative like private involvement in the economy is never guaranteed to give the results hoped for, you can always be wrong on anything and everything no matter what. Just because it is the opposite (private vs public and such) doesn’t mean it is the solution or right: most likely everything is all wrong no matter what since the Man Brain sucks, this contraption must be thrown away and a new one must be inserted in its place…

  383. mika. February 15, 2012 at 8:24 am #

    I am grateful for life’s misfortune since, as Nietzsche said, “That which does not kill us makes us stronger.”
    ==
    Misfortune is nothing to be grateful for. It has crippled you and turned you into a rat. A despicable rodent. As far as Nietzsche goes, he was a syphilitic mental degenerate. His ego and Prussian inferiority complex in typical fashion led him to proclaim his degeneracy and criminal bloodlust, a super-human virtue.
    There are no super-humans. There are only humans and degenerates.
    You need to change.

  384. lbendet February 15, 2012 at 8:43 am #

    Snookered again, my friends.
    Speaking to E. and Wage’s comments about housing, I want to add that the whole notion of supply side and trickle down was quite an illusion and the American people bought into it.
    That’s right folks, redistribute money from the middle class to the wealthy power elite and then it will trickle down again. Now that’s the ticket. Productive enterprises were no longer needed.
    HO! Let the mergers and acquisitions begin!
    As businesses got bigger, “efficiency” became the enemy of job creation. Then add in globalism and voila, The middle class started to lose ground. Debt became the engine for wealth, for the top tier.
    So what to do?
    Hey, let’s turn the houses into ATM’s! That’s the little engine that could create the biggest bubble
    the world. Slice and dice those mortgages and sell them in AAA derivatives. That, along with the stock market became the only place people can keep up with inflation with their money, uh, until there’s a big sell-off.—oops, sorry.
    That’s most likely why this latest mortgage crisis Faustian deal was made and the middle class will pay most of the $25 Billion.
    Next stop Iran. Yes the American people are weary of war. So bored with Iraq and Afghanistan, but they can get revved up for the one with Iran–stay tuned.
    Boy, are we dumb or what?

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  385. trippticket February 15, 2012 at 9:17 am #

    “Tripp, sounds like you are going to come in below US$12,000 income and will not be paying any taxes to support drone bombers. Good for you! (and us!)”
    That’s the goal! I don’t mind paying property taxes, seems fair enough to pay for fire and police service in exchange for private land ownership (although we intend to do our schooling, one way or another). But one can control how much sales tax they pay by how much they consume, and I think income taxes are pretty much the devil’s work. I certainly have no interest in paying for resource wars, especially since I’m trying to stop using the resources they are bent on acquiring.

  386. mika. February 15, 2012 at 9:17 am #

    Met –
    Your reply to BTB about his dystopian view of the future is about the most optimistic thing I’ve ever seen you write on CFN
    ==
    Of-course I’m optimistic. I wouldn’t be hounding you degenerate fucks if I wasn’t.

  387. mika. February 15, 2012 at 9:31 am #

    Because it sounded to me as though you must be thinking that the Slavs were enslaved by some Vatican enterprise. But Queenie spilled the beans in his very informative post – saying that the slavemasters of the Slavs were Muslim. So, never mind on this one, Met.
    ==
    I already made it very clear that the Jihadis and the Vatican work hand in hand, and always have. But nice try, buckweed.

  388. trippticket February 15, 2012 at 9:35 am #

    “I don’t know how it is in Georgia, but in my neck of the woods it’s pretty hard to disguise ongoing construction from the authorities.”
    Duly noted. We intentionally chose an area that didn’t require building permits (probably not an option in Mass), or have a HOA, or any covenants and restrictions. I think we got lucky with the quality of the neighborhood we’re heading to, considering these constraints. But then, I have been thinking about this stuff for over 3 years now! The property is just over 2 acres, surrounded on all sides by other undeveloped wooded lots, on a slope that faces away from the nearest neighbors, almost completely invisible. We will be building a cob house by hand, in the tradition of the old Devon, England, earthen cottages, without power tools, excepting the occasional chainsaw, and a power drill. The buildings will all have living roofs, and there won’t be any paving that isn’t native stone or brick. I think it will be hard to see from above. The neighborhood is a “second mountain home” kind of place – some full time residents, but mostly weekend cabin folks. We will restrict chain saw use to week days.
    So, unless we piss someone off pretty badly, and I can’t imagine how we’d do that, I think we can get this done. Thanks for voicing your concerns, though, that always helps with refining plans.

  389. trippticket February 15, 2012 at 9:52 am #

    “please fill me in on the non-watered toilet lol, i’m all ears.”
    Hey, Welles, check out “The Humanure Handbook,” available online as a free download. Human waste can be composted, same as any other, but ours is much more mineral dense becuase of our diet than cow, horse, or even chicken, so higher quality. It needs to be combined with high carbon biomass and composted for at least 6 months, but then it’s a fine way to fertilize fruit trees, berry bushes, etc. Until the cultural perception of humanure changes, I won’t use it on vegetables for the sake of our lunch guests;)
    “trippy, what would the ‘economy’ look like if 80% of the population lived like you did?”
    A lot more local! And the biosphere would be in full-on recovery. We chose the neighborhood we did for another reason. Because it’s full of second home properties for Atlanta’s well-to-do, I think those properties will slowly be dumped, at a greatly reduced price, and hopefully we’ll be in a position to pick some of them up as things progress. We’re already inviting artisan friends to take a look at the neighborhood, and there are plenty of open lots available even now. It’s a fairly big subdivision, and I think, with the right people, it could sport it’s own village economy, with the town 6 miles away serving as the “big marketplace.” Atlanta is only an hour away by car, and very supportive of people like us. Unless things go south in a hurry, we can work Atlanta markets for a while as we get set up.
    This is the best plan I’ve come up with. I’m all ears for improvements!

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  390. old69 February 15, 2012 at 10:07 am #

    Another simple thing many don’t understand: you can freely fire government workers, increase the age of pensions for all, do all you want and save money as much as you want, all can be done, all kinds of austerity programs, cut costs, cut wastes, don’t pay any social benefits, don’t pay any “Entitlements” (the word itself means a poor lazy welfare queen and lazy slob wanting to sponge of all the hard working folks (remember divide and conquer, and especially let the poor fight amongst themselves)), all and anything you want:
    THE BOTTOM LINE THOUGH IS THAT NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY IS SAVED, HOW MANY WORKERS FIRED, HOW MANY BENEFITS AND ENTITLEMENTS NOT PAID ANYMORE, NO MATTER WHAT ALL AND ANY OF THE MONEY “SAVED” WILL NEVER GO BACK TO ANYONE IN SOCIETY AT ALL: IT WILL SIMPLY BE COMPLETELY HOGGED UP BY THE ALREADY SUPER RICH, NO MATTER WHAT.
    And that is the point: the system is not out to solve the debts and get the economy going again: it is simply out to take away as much money as possible form all the possible weaker players worldwide and transfer it to the already super rich, for what on earth are job cuts good for ? How can firing people be of any benefit to the economy and such ?
    A totally huge ripoff of all time, make them believe there are all of these debts and hose them all, fire, layoff, take money away from everyone but stop short from the 100 trillion dollars those few thousand super rich families worldwide have.

  391. Widespreadpanic7 February 15, 2012 at 10:38 am #

    Pucker,
    Nice mention of Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde. I have to reread that book. Read ‘Treasure Island’ over vacation in the Keys. Stevenson was a great storyteller and adventurer, travelling around with his wife and stepson even tho he suffered from TB. (which would kill him, in the South Pacific, at age 40) Anybody who would spend his honeymoon with his bride in an abandoned gold mine in northern Cal., prospecting, had to be a pretty interesting man.
    Yergin has several chapters in ‘The Quest’ about Peak Oil, which he pretty much dismisses. He quotes Jim quite a bit, without identifying him. Concerning the future of energy, amount of remaining oil, the potential of renewables, the role of technology in oil exploration and recovery, the importance of Hubberts predictions, really just about everything Yergin is 180d opposite of JHK. According to Yergin there is enough petroleum to last quite some time, even as demand rises to 120 million bpd from the current 88 million bpd, and when production does finally begin to decline (in the far future) renewables and technology will be there to pick up the slack. That pretty much undermines everything we say here.
    –WSP7

  392. charliefoxtrot February 15, 2012 at 10:47 am #

    tripp- i don t know if it would be immediately applicable to your building plans, but here goes: i read an article in mother earth news (remember that one?!) in which the guy stacked beer & soda cans with mortar- he said the compression strength was many times that of concrete because of the arc of the cylinders…and that the R-value is extremely high, as well…as i understand it, water bottles would work just as well, since the substance of the ‘bricks’ is not where the strength is from; but the shape…congrats on your new digs- yes, pun intended- and we look forward to updates…

  393. trippticket February 15, 2012 at 10:49 am #

    “That pretty much undermines everything we say here.”
    And that is also the majority opinion. I’m sure you’ll be in fine company if you choose to take that perspective.
    For an erudite counter-opinion, I highly recommend John Michael Greer’s latest, “The Wealth of Nature.”

  394. Widespreadpanic7 February 15, 2012 at 10:50 am #

    About JHK’s “John Brown Moment”, you might think, with millions and millions of forclosures in the past 4 years, somebody, when the Sherrif showed up to serve papers, remove property, and put belongings out onto the street, would have resisited and refused to go. That could have been a ‘John Brown Moment’. As far as I know it never happened. Maybe those plastic clad $600,000 McMansions just aren’t worth defending, I don’t know. Other times in our history, for example Shays Rebellion (1790s) in Western New England, people did resist forclosure of their property. If citizens won’t even defend their own homes what will they defend? So I doubt there will be any ‘John Brown Moment’ here.
    –WSP7

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  395. Widespreadpanic7 February 15, 2012 at 10:55 am #

    For me its still an open question, Tripp. I tend to lean toward JHKs take on the situation.
    –WSP7

  396. trippticket February 15, 2012 at 10:59 am #

    I’ve seen some of those places, and I don’t personally enjoy the look of them, but, it’s common for cob builders to bury non-comopostables in their walls as they go up. Gets rid of some hard to dispose of junk, and is often considered therapeutic, burying the old television, cell phone, ex-wife, etc, in a foot and a half of mud. Saves a bit of cob mixing too.

  397. trippticket February 15, 2012 at 11:06 am #

    “I tend to lean toward JHKs take on the situation.”
    That would make sense, as often as I see you around here. Greer gives some really great explanations based on the laws of thermodynamics for why alternative energy sources cannot replace fossil fuels. And if fossil fuels are indeed biotic and non-renewable, which I certainly think they are, it’s really just a matter of time.
    The bigger problem I see is that we are compromising our ability to persist as a species on Earth through our activity, specifically our fossil fuel-driven activity. So I’m really hoping that peak oil means what I think it means.

  398. Rhino February 15, 2012 at 11:11 am #

    Put it this way, P2C, Vlad is convinced that Black, White, Asian etc behavior is a product of genetics. I’m telling him not so fast, there are other possible explanations ie culture. Culture is nothing more than learned behavior.
    And I’m suggesting some possible origins for this culture. Given the nastiness of black treatment maybe a lot of blacks take an oppositional stance towards the larger society. Whitey wants an IQ test? Fuck whitey. Whitey says learn your abc’s and 123’s? Fuck whitey. Whitey says this, whitey says that, fuck whitey, fuck whitey. Don’t “act white”. That’s for whitey. Does it make sense from the perspective of self interest? Does it matter? People adopt bad ideas and bad behavior and such things persist.
    And look at dominant white society in the US. I don’t know if you’re old enough to remember but decades ago we had Arthur Godfrey and Dick Van Dyck and Lawrence Welk on TV. And now? Jerry Springer and Jersey Shore. We couldn’t have imagined such things hitting the airwaves 50 years ago. Back then shacking up was very uncommon, not so now, single motherhood was seen as self destructive and was discouraged, now single mothers are seen as heroic.
    So is the explanation that white people are becoming genetically debased? Or is it that we’re adopting new attitudes and modes of behavior and genetics has nothing to do with it?
    Bottom line is that “race” based “science” is too politically charged given past history. I doubt that any reputable academic or any academic that wants to preserve their career will do research that draws conclusions about black vs white vs asian inferiority/superiority. And any science that has been done I doubt is worth a damn.
    From a common sense perspective I wouldn’t touch it either. Even assuming the science is worth shit what would you use it for? Are you going to use it to pre-judge individuals? Is this fair? Are you going to end up with a race based class system or caste system? Are you going to use it for ethnic or racial “cleansing” Yugoslav style? There are a lot of bad things I can envision coming out of this.

  399. Qshtik February 15, 2012 at 11:16 am #

    Here is the link about VXX I posted yesterday at 4:04PM that wouldn’t display. I hope it works this time.
    https://www.etrade.wallst.com/v1/common/pdf.asp?docKey=1577-VXX-34FMNM86TMMT81RKPTI9QVMOKA
    The situation grows more weird. The Dow is down, the Nasdaq and S&P are up. When the S&P is up the VXX should be down. But the VXX is UP and by 4%. It is essentially screaming “market selloff ahead.”

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  400. Qshtik February 15, 2012 at 11:21 am #

    Sorry, still won’t work and I don’t know why. I give up.

  401. lbendet February 15, 2012 at 11:25 am #

    Maybe it’s Maybelline…
    There’s a new list of 400 lipsticks which the FDA has listed as having traces of lead in them. Now that’s lovely news knowing how we lick our lips and the gents might kiss us–hmmmm
    Last week there was a breaking story that 500 dogs had gotten sick from Chinese made chicken jerky treats. How many people know about this latest story and what companies to stay away from.
    Our neoliberals keep chanting no regulations–government agencies should be disbanded, ‘cuz corporations know best..don’t get in their way.
    http://www.fda.gov/Cosmetics/ProductandIngredientSafety/ProductInformation/ucm137224.htm#expanalyses

  402. trippticket February 15, 2012 at 11:36 am #

    I think the biggest misunderstanding about energy comes right out of human arrogance. No one denies that humans are the most arrogant animals on Earth, do they? [I mean, some of them even believe that they have the ear of an omnipotent being that gave birth to the entire universe.]
    Good, OK, then what follows is that we were basically gifted this nearly immeasurable suite of energy stocks in coal, oil, and gas. Half a billion years of stored solar energy – stable, portable, fantastically powerful – providing, for all practical purposes, a nearly free energy supply, as long as it holds out. And we’re doing our damndest to use it up as soon as possible!
    It’s interesting to me that people are constantly searching for a “free energy source,” when by any realistic measure, that’s what they are burning in their quest to find it.
    Fossil fuels created us. We were just as clever, if not more so, before the Industrial Revolution, when we had to take care of ourselves with almost no energy, comparitively; and our population never exceeded one billion, so 6 out of 7 of us, at bare minimum, are completely composed of fossil fuel. It’s an important point to note that our current technostructure is a product of fossil energy, not the cause of it.
    This immense amount of energy has allowed us to experiment with some very clever technologies, even some that promise to make more energy for us, but without the fossil energy subsidy that state of affairs wouldn’t exist. And when we lose our access to crazy amounts of oil and coal, only people who had the foresight to install those technologies will benefit from them, and only then until they break down beyond the local ability to repair them.
    Oil is a primary energy source. A solar panel is a secondary good. Two very different things. And the second wouldn’t exist without the former.

  403. Mrs. Soake February 15, 2012 at 11:38 am #

    Vlad –
    When are you going to stop this embarrassing charade of a militant Israeli named Mika. Are you trying to channel this guy? It’s so sad, dude.
    Mrs. Soake

  404. mika. February 15, 2012 at 11:56 am #

    I’ll continue to poke you in the eye with my militant finger until it cures you of your deliberate blindness. As long as it takes, Dostoevsky.

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  405. Rhino February 15, 2012 at 12:00 pm #

    So maybe we go back to burning animal dung.
    I saw a TV show several years ago about an archeological dig in northern Scotland. What they had uncovered were the remains of a 5,000 year old agricultural community. Can’t remember much about it, just that the folk were fairly adept in the use of stones in construction of houses and structures for religious use, burial chambers etc.
    Some interesting things that the burials revealed. From analysis of the bones they were able to figure out the ages of the people at death. They said that 80% of the people were dead before the age of thirty, all were dead before the age of forty. This was essentially a teen-aged society that managed despite such short lives to reproduce, grow food and raise their young. Must’ve been a hungry, sick, painful existence though judging by the short lifespans.
    Seems that not much changed over many centuries. I read that even at the height of the Roman empire ie the pax Romana when life was allegedly “better” – ie peaceful, civilized – that the average life expectancy for a Roman woman was 28, for a Roman male it was 35, for a Roman soldier it was 30. Less than half of what it is today.
    So maybe as energy runs out we go back to a billion people. Maybe we use donkeys instead of cars, hand held scythes with flint blades instead mechanical harvesters, pointy sticks instead of AK47s. We’ve been there before, despite the hardships and short/hard lives people still managed to develop writing, literature philosophy, mathematics. It will likely be pretty miserable for people (maybe us or our near descendants) living in that new/old state. But it won’t be the end of all things.

  406. mika. February 15, 2012 at 12:06 pm #

    Q,
    My saged recommendation to you is to buy AAPL. Put everything into AAPL. Borrow as much as you can from your broker and buy AAPL!!
    Listen to my wisdom. It will teach you well.

  407. wagelaborer February 15, 2012 at 12:09 pm #

    Your fashion choices are your own, of course.
    I just wondered if you think that a middle-aged blonde woman will be mistaken for a norteno because she’s wearing red?

  408. Qshtik February 15, 2012 at 12:11 pm #

    But nice try, buckweed.
    ==============
    It’s Buckwheat, unless you meant Dickweed.

  409. asoka. February 15, 2012 at 12:18 pm #

    There are no super-humans. There are only humans…
    Your paranoia about the Jihadi-Vatican collusion, for which you have provided zero credible evidence, shows your failure to escape the misfortune matrix.
    Here is how I imagine your matrix-mired mind works:
    — The Vatican control?s almost everything.
    — Vatican control is under the cover of secret societies.
    — The secret societies are controlled by the Jesuits.
    — The oath of the Jesuits is no different from Islam.
    — “They,” the Vatican-Jihad conspiracy you believe exists, oversee Free Masonry.
    — In Free Masonry, when you get to the 33rd degree, the only book left on the altar is the Satan-inspired Koran.
    — “They” are therefore worshiping Satan directly.
    There is no credible evidence for any of the above bullet points. You are trapped in the paranoia matrix.
    You are correct that there are no super-humans.
    However, it is possible for ordinary humans to escape the matrix. Once that happens your perspective on misfortune will change.

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  410. mika. February 15, 2012 at 12:18 pm #

    No, I had it right. He, the buckweed. You, the dickweed.

  411. wagelaborer February 15, 2012 at 12:21 pm #

    He did want sympathy. He doesn’t want to go.
    And, no, he will be in no danger. He is a Lt. Colonel. He will be safe.
    He still doesn’t want to leave his home, his family, his job and his life here.
    And, yes, I have a lot of co-workers who are have family in the prison-industrial complex, or the military-industrial complex.
    The prisons are the only jobs around. If there were other jobs, I think that people would take them.
    The military people usually don’t want to go. They just want the money.
    We were talking about a former co-worker, when discussing this one.
    She joined the military for the money, but didn’t want to go when the US invaded Iraq.
    So she got pregnant. OK, that works until the baby is born, and then they send you anyway. This government, which waxes eloquent about family, etc., doesn’t really care about babies, or mothers.
    Anyway, she got pregnant again. This is not a sustainable strategy.
    My co-workers told me that she is now in Afghanistan.

  412. Buck Stud February 15, 2012 at 12:22 pm #

    Excellent post OLD69!

  413. asoka. February 15, 2012 at 12:25 pm #

    For Mika and E. … a Taoist reflection on “misfortune”
    A man named Sei Weng owned a beautiful mare which was praised far and wide. One day this beautiful horse disappeared. The people of his village offered sympathy to Sei Weng for his great misfortune. Sei Weng said simply, “That’s the way it is.”
    A few days later the lost mare returned, followed by a beautiful wild stallion. The village congratulated Sei Weng for his good fortune. He said, “That’s the way it is.”
    Some time later, Sei Weng’s only son, while riding the stallion, fell off and broke his leg. The village people once again expressed their sympathy at Sei Weng’s misfortune. Sei Weng again said, “That’s the way it is.”
    Soon thereafter, war broke out and all the young men of the village except Sei Weng’s lame son were drafted and were killed in battle. The village people were amazed as Sei Weng’s good luck. His son was the only young man left alive in the village. But Sei Weng kept his same attitude: despite all the turmoil, gains and losses, he gave the same reply, “That’s the way it is.”

  414. mika. February 15, 2012 at 12:30 pm #

    That’s the fatalistic attitude, Asoka, and I don’t subscribe to it. And never will.

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  415. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 12:37 pm #

    You are a bore and a boor.

  416. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 12:48 pm #

    Yes that’s always the other side… I love the idea of Trade and a hands off attitude but many people used to get sick from bad meat, medicine, etc. So now we have the AMA that wants to regulate vitamins and decide everything for us. There is no clear answer: people obviously can’t be trusted but that includes the people in Goverment Agencies.
    People need the discipline of community. They are less likely to cheat and will suffer more pain if caught – another incentive not to do it. The carrot and stick work best in tandem. With Community and its local power, a vast Federal or Global Bureacracy becomes unnecessary and thus able to be resisted. The Free Traders want to fight it but strenghten it by not taking responsibility. And they try to make us forget the reasons why regulations came into existence to begin with – cupidity and irresponsibility. Their answer? More of the same.

  417. San Jose Mom 51 February 15, 2012 at 12:48 pm #

    Hey Bubblehead, Eleuthero, Bustin, Beantown, Qshtik, Wage and Westcoast….
    I need reading suggestions! Any great political/ecomonics/sociology books that you’ve read lately?
    Much appreciated,
    Jen

  418. turkle February 15, 2012 at 12:50 pm #

    The Disaster Capitalism book by Naomi Klein…read it and weep.

  419. turkle February 15, 2012 at 12:50 pm #

    Overshoot by Catton is pretty much a humdinger, too.

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  420. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 12:52 pm #

    Women in the military often get pregnant before action commences. No principles whatsoever.
    And the miliary mixes young men and women together in situations of maximum stress. And then they wonder why the men misbehave. The possibility of imminent death is a great aphrodisiac. Part of wise governing is understand human nature and work with it – not try to eliminate it or pretend there is none as Leftists do.

  421. turkle February 15, 2012 at 12:52 pm #

    Geodestinies is a good one too.
    http://www.amazon.com/Geodestinies-Inevitable-Control-Resources-Individuals/dp/0894202995

  422. wagelaborer February 15, 2012 at 12:56 pm #

    With Liberty and Justice for Some,
    by Glenn Greenwald

  423. anti soak February 15, 2012 at 12:57 pm #

    ‘So now we have the AMA that wants to regulate vitamins and decide everything for us.’
    I have been told the Pharma / Corporations have
    bought up the smaller ‘Natural Health’ companies.
    So who is in Charge? Large and In Charge?
    Not the FDA/AMA, the 1%.

  424. asoka. February 15, 2012 at 12:59 pm #

    That’s the fatalistic attitude, Asoka, and I don’t subscribe to it. And never will.

    OK, Mika. Good luck!
    No, wait, that’s a fatalistic attitude, too.
    🙂
    If we had choice, who would choose misfortune? The Jews do not choose to suffer pogroms.
    One day you will figure out how to escape the fatalism-free will matrix altogether. No worries.

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  425. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 12:59 pm #

    Sure sucka, the Vatican wrote the Koran. That’s why they fought the Crusades. That’s why they defeated the Muslim fleet at Lepanto. That’s why the heroic John Sobieski broke the Turkish siege of Vienna.
    Just the opposite: the Muslims and Jews have often worked together against Christendom. The Crusaders knew they were fighting the Muslims and the Jews as they took back Spain. And who can forget that when the Persians defeated Byzantium in Palestine, the Jews celebrated and bought thousands of Christian Captives from the Persians – and then sacraficed them?

  426. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 1:03 pm #

    True. But the AMA wanted to do this. Which would you choose? I’d rather keep it open like it is now and let people choose what’s real and what isn’t. Because if the AMA did get more power, they’d just be taken over by one or two of the Corporations anyway. We’d end up with less choice and more tyranny.

  427. mika. February 15, 2012 at 1:14 pm #

    Asoka, I said what I said because I genuinely want to help you. Sometimes people just need a little catalyst. Maybe I started a reaction, maybe not. I do wish you well.

  428. lbendet February 15, 2012 at 1:14 pm #

    I don’t quite understand what you’re suggesting.
    The people studying these products are scientists hired by government to protect consumers from tainted products.
    Do you think all towns should have labs to test products for traces of poisons in products?
    Who’s going to know what might be wrong with products coming from abroad?
    Look, I think govt. can be effective, it’s just a question of whether people in govt get bought off by the corporations so they don’t protect the people.
    95% of the products on the list are lower cost items but a few were higher priced items.
    I think most people don’t want to be at the mercy of greed.

  429. Mrs. Soake February 15, 2012 at 1:18 pm #

    Vlad –
    Whereas I may bore you for one post on rare occasion here, you’re boring seven days a week, several posts a day. And you post to yourself – Mika/Vlad/Metuselah. That’s beyond boring, it’s sad. Do you have a job yet? Any prospects of a meaningful relationship? Just wondering…

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  430. charliefoxtrot February 15, 2012 at 1:25 pm #

    you fucking cauldron of fear and slime-covered shit!! first off, rape and sexual assault is not ‘misbehaving’; and that rape has little or nothing to do with sex, you retarded pervert!! aphrodisiac, indeed, you goddamned criminal; do you watch the rape/murder porn SVU, and all the other dreck that gets pushed; nay, extruded thru the magic box?! FUCK OFF with your “she made me do it officer, look at how she s dressed” “no means beat me til i shut up” psychosis…cocksucker…

  431. asoka. February 15, 2012 at 1:29 pm #

    I also wish you well.

  432. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 1:45 pm #

    Have you tried Black, or so called Prince Hall Masonry?

  433. trippticket February 15, 2012 at 1:53 pm #

    “It will likely be pretty miserable for people (maybe us or our near descendants) living in that new/old state. But it won’t be the end of all things.”
    No, you’re absolutely right, it won’t be. But it might be perceived as sufficiently more laborious enough to keep modern humans wishing for a savior.
    And I personally disagree about it being miserable. For four years now, every “modern convenience” I discard makes me less anxious, more relaxed, and yes, I think it’s safe to say, happier. Again, if people don’t know any better they won’t care. Living to the ripe old age of 40 might just be normal. And no one who ever knew the average age of Americans to be 74 will be around to tell them any differently. Less energy will undoubtedly mean less capacity for geriatric care. But that also means less impact on our ecosystem, which will improve the quality of the years we do live. It always seems to come back to quality versus quantity.
    Although, I think it’s important to remember that farming itself took its toll on humanity. The transition from foraging to farming shortened our stature by 5 inches (from which the Turks still haven’t fully recovered), increased our tooth decay six fold, and introduced degenerative diseases like arthritis that were previously unknown. Those factors combined, one can only imagine what it did to our lifespan.
    I don’t advocate for a return to pre-industrial agriculture; I advocate for a novel move into horticulture. Which is basically what permaculture is. But that implies more than exchanging wheat for chestnuts.

  434. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 1:53 pm #

    Calm down you litte liberal nutcase. Rape exists, yes – and it should be harshly dealt with. But there are many grey areas. Much courtship and sex occur under the influence of alcohol. So has she given her permission or not? You think she knows? What a naif. How very green you are. Many women decide they’ve been raped the morning after – or a couple of days after when he hasn’t called back. Or once penetration has occured, the women then has the right to cry stop? Sure ok, I agree, but it makes her a monster I would never associate with again. But how many young hot blooded men would? Why don’t you have some compassion for men too? And locking them up with young women and expecting nothing bad to happen is just ignorance – exactly the kind we’ve come to expect from you and your ilk. Tempt not thy brother is an important moral principle.

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  435. turkle February 15, 2012 at 1:54 pm #

    RE: Vlad
    “Do you have a job yet? Any prospects of a meaningful relationship?”
    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That’s a good one!

  436. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 1:59 pm #

    These short lifespans existed all thru history until the 20th century. They’re due to some extent to childhood diseases. There have always been a fair number of people who lived to old age or at least old middle age. Even Neanderthal skeletons have been found with arthritis – some severe that showed not only their age, but that they must have been cared for extensively.
    Obviously before the mid 20th century you didn’t have large numbers of elderly people in very poor health as we have now. That will change dramatically in the years to come. If you can’t stay healthy, you wont stay alive like people do now thru pills, surgery, etc.

  437. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 2:01 pm #

    How is your relationship with charlie coming along? Whose the pitcher and whose the catcher?

  438. turkle February 15, 2012 at 2:05 pm #

    My, don’t you have an active imagination. Isn’t it time for your nap yet?

  439. k-dog February 15, 2012 at 2:07 pm #

    “And suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us and the sky was full of what looked like huge bats, all swooping and screeching and diving around the car, which was going about a hundred miles an hour with the top down to Las Vegas.”

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  440. trippticket February 15, 2012 at 2:08 pm #

    Eh, maybe I stand corrected on the arthritis factor, but from what I understand, degenerative diseases were a much smaller issue before agriculture. Maybe near-mortal injury in Neanderthals was the driver for the development of arthritis in those cases? I know the only joints I have it in are joints that I’ve injured in the past.

  441. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 2:08 pm #

    Yes, quality of people rather than quantity. But that the rub – short Middle Eastern Farmers in great numbers overcame the tall godlike Cro-Magnon/Neanderthal Hybrids of Old Europe. We still haven’t recovered. Our ancestors had lager brains and heaver bones; smarter and more robust.
    Your’s is the ruthless compassion of the great Eugenicist Nature. I like it. But there has always been a strong relatioship between radical ecology and the far right/left; as verboten as that sounds, it is nonetheless, true.

  442. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 2:12 pm #

    Could be. The Paleo Diet is supposed to be the best. And the Taoists are against grains. Rice on every plate is not the Traditional Diet of China -it’s survival food, one of the best. People should stock up on it and hopefully not need it.

  443. turkle February 15, 2012 at 2:12 pm #

    You are one weird dude, you know that?

  444. anti soak February 15, 2012 at 2:40 pm #

    JIM…check this!!!!
    Hula at Fuck U shima…
    ‘A Hawaiian theme park that propped up the economy of a rural Japanese town in Fukushima prefecture for 45 years was forced to close after the March 11 earthquake. Almost a year later, the hula girls have returned.
    The Spa Resort Hawaiians in Iwaki will open its indoor pools and host wedding parties and Hawaiian………………………………..’

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  445. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 2:45 pm #

    Can you give us a specific story? You need to tell stories – you never do. Instead you try to sell us soap. Stories, not soap and not poverty sob stories either.

  446. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 2:48 pm #

    Genius is akin to madness, Turk. As a mundane Liberal tribesman, I don’t expect you to know anything about this.

  447. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 2:52 pm #

    What do you think of the new beach laws in California? Would Gidget and Moondogie have obeyed such edicts? After having watched, “How to Stuff a Wild Bikini”, I say no. But what do I know? You are my man in the field or on the beach in this case. Report.

  448. anti soak February 15, 2012 at 2:59 pm #

    Vlad….the govt is desperate for $ !
    In my part of town they give 100s? 1000s? of traffic tickets a day!

  449. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 3:01 pm #

    Chris Christie to fly the flag at half mast for Whitney Houston. Is this appropriate? In any case, countless Americans are sickened by the ongoing media blitz. Even ordinary Americans are begining to realize the Elite’s attempt to dumb us down as well as sleaze us.
    No disrespect to Whitney Houston – a fine singer but no heroine of any kind.

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  450. ront February 15, 2012 at 3:15 pm #

    Maybe this version of the story will explain its message better for you. If not, can you please explain the attitude toward life’s circumstances that you ascribe to?
    Many years ago in a poor Chinese village, there lived a peasant with his son. His only material possession, apart from some land and a small straw hut, was a horse he had inherited from his father.
    One day, the horse ran off, leaving the man with no animal with which to till the land. His neighbors – who respected him greatly for his honesty and diligence – came to his house to say how much they regretted what had happened. He thanked them for their visit, but asked:- How can you know that what has happened has been a misfortune in my life?
    Someone mumbled to a friend: “he can’t accept reality, let him think what he wants, as long as he isn’t saddened by what happened.”
    And the neighbors went off, pretending to agree with what they had heard.
    A week later, the horse returned to the stable, but it was not alone; it brought with it a fine mare for company. Upon hearing this, the villagers – who were flustered since they now understood the answer the man had given them – returned to the peasant’s house, in order to congratulate him on his good fortune.
    – Before you had only one horse, and now you have two. Congratulations! – they said.
    Many thanks for your visit and for all your concern – answered the peasant. – But how can you know that what has happened has been a blessing in my life?
    Disconcerted, and thinking he must be going mad, the neighbors went off, and on the way commented: “does he really not understand that God has sent him a gift?”
    A month later, the peasant’s son decided to tame the mare. But the animal unexpectedly reared up and the boy fell and broke his leg.
    The neighbors returned to the peasant’s house – bringing gifts for the wounded boy. The mayor of the village offered his condolences to the father, saying that all were very sad at what had happened.
    The man thanked them for their visit and their concern, but asked: How can you know that what has happened has been a misfortune in my life?
    They were all astonished to hear this, since no one could be in any doubt that the accident of a son was a real tragedy. As they left the peasant’s house, some said to others: “he really has gone mad; his only son might limp forever, and he is still in doubt about whether what happened is a misfortune.”
    Some months passed, and Japan declared war on China. The Emperor’s envoys traveled throughout the land in search for healthy young men to be sent to the battle front. Upon arrival in the village, they recruited all the young men except the peasant’s son, whose leg was broken.
    None of the young men returned alive. The son recovered, the two animals bred and their offspring were sold at a good price. The peasant began visiting his neighbors to console and help them, – since they had at all times been so caring. Whenever one of them complained, the peasant said: “how do you know it is a misfortune?” If anyone become overjoyed, he asked: “how do you know it is a blessing?” And the men in that village understood that beyond appearances, life has other meanings.

  451. ront February 15, 2012 at 3:18 pm #

    I found the following thought provoking quotes challenging to those who are politically active and inactive.
    on Revolution
    An agitatioin to attain a political or economic end must rest upon an implied willingness and ability to use force. Without that it is mere wind and attitudinizing.
    -James Connolly 3-14-1914
    In the last analysis, all revoltions must be social revolutions, based upon fundamental changes in society; otherwise it is not revolution, but merely a change of government….
    –Madame Sun Yat-Sen 7-14-1927
    Those who won our independence by revolution were not cowards. They did not fear political change. They did not exalt order at the cost of liberty.
    –Louis D. Brandeis 1927
    Martyrs are needed to create incidents. Incidents are needed to create revolutions. Revolutions are needed to create progress.
    –Chester Bomar Himes, “Negro Martyrs are Needed” May 1944
    Every social war is a battle between the very few on both sides that care and who fire their shots across a crowd of spectators.
    –Robert Lindner “The Instinct of Rebellion” 1956
    Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
    –JFK 3-12-1962
    If you feed the people just revolutionary slogans they will listen today, they will listen tomorrow, they will listen the day after tomorrow, but on the fourth day they will say, “To hell with you.”
    –Nikita Khruschev 10-4-1964
    on Politics
    The political spirit is the great force in throwing love of truth and accurate reasoning into a secondary place.
    –John Morley “On Compromise” 1874
    Politics, and the fate of mankind, are shaped by men without ideals and without greatness.
    –Albert Camus 1962
    Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in affairs which properly concern them.
    Paul Valery 1943
    Those people who treat politics and morality separately will never understand either of them.
    Jean Jacques Rousseau 1762
    Politics: Who Gets What, When, How
    Harold Lasswell book title 1939
    Politics, n. -A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles.
    Opposition, n. -In politics the party that prevents the Government from running amuck by hamstringing it.
    –Ambrose Bierce “The Devil’s Dictionary” 1906

  452. trippticket February 15, 2012 at 3:43 pm #

    “Your’s is the ruthless compassion of the great Eugenicist Nature.”
    Except that I don’t have a preference for skin color beyond my own mandatory survival, and yes, that would be the survival of a tall white man’s family. Godlike would be a stretch.
    I think integrated culture is a product of our anomalous access to energy, and will probably fade with the loss of that energy, but as far as seeing one race as more deserving of survival than another, I don’t. Nature can pick the winners on a case-by-case basis.
    And even if I do think most of the current eco-destruction is the fault of farming cultures, particularly Indo-European farmers, I don’t think many of them had advanced knowledge of what they were doing, so I don’t think it’s appropriate to wish them ill. Therefore I’m not anti-white either.
    I do, however, see certain behavioral changes in industrial culture as more adaptive than others, so I am biased toward thinking that these are “the good guys.” Namely natural builders and permaculturalists. So I guess I have my horse picked out, just like anyone else. That horse just happens to be a paint.

  453. trippticket February 15, 2012 at 3:55 pm #

    “short Middle Eastern Farmers in great numbers overcame the tall godlike Cro-Magnon/Neanderthal Hybrids of Old Europe. We still haven’t recovered.”
    I wish I could stick around long enough to see how this all plays out. Organized farmers overcame healthier foragers with their numbers, and now they’ve put the planet’s entire biosphere in jeopardy. [I would say ‘we’, but I changed my course pretty radically when I figured this out, so I won’t.] Who knows what the tidal movement of the next century will uncover.
    The “radical ecologist” in me thinks we should plant ourselves in as pristine a place, ecologically, as we can, build a tight community around ourselves, and become very useful to the larger population. That or pick a place no one wants.

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  454. k-dog February 15, 2012 at 4:00 pm #

    I appreciate this story but there is danger here as well. An attitude of passive acceptance can result. A good adjustment when dealing with cosmic realities of life but fatal when dealing with evil men or unpleasant circumstances which can be avoided by making the right choices.
    The town let all the young men be taken be taken why? The answer there was fear. Fear that blinds one from knowing that they have other choices. The peasant in his ‘wisdom’ was not able to point that out to them.
    Passive acceptance is not the answer. However overall the story is good. It portrays well the eastern concept of detachment. The big picture is the thing after all and the obvious can confuse.
    But passive acceptance like fear makes one forget there are other choices in life. A bend over and take it attitude that results from pretending that good things are bad and bad things are good is never a good answer and someone with such a mind is easily manipulated.
    Life gives you lemons, just make lemonade. But is life giving you lemons or is somebody trying to take your meat?
    The story starts in the right direction but does not take things far enough and leaves one in a state which could produce a bad life adjustment.

  455. debt February 15, 2012 at 4:06 pm #

    A while back I got one of those camera automatic red light tickets. County of Santa Cruz wanted me to pay $489 for it. I tried to fight it in court and actually showed that since the cameras were operated and maintained by a private corporation in Arizona(!) the local police department was not in compliance with the California Vehicle Code. The judge said, in essence, so what? you’re still guilty. I then asked if I could do community service. I ended up doing most of it by helping out at Shakespeare Santa Cruz over the Summer. Ushering and then enjoying several plays whilst drinking some great red wine. I do believe I had the last laugh on that one.

  456. asoka. February 15, 2012 at 4:13 pm #

    Thank you, ront.
    Your version makes the message much clearer as the story is much more explicit.
    We are so quick to judge; we think we know what misfortune is.
    Don’t worry, be happy!
    I’m still waiting for Buck Stud or E. or anyone else to explain to me how worry might be an effective strategy for preventing an attack on Iran, or reversing global climate change or resolving the Euro crisis and world economic crisis.
    Instead of worrying, one can just as easily be happy while simultaneously using reason to address the large problems we face. And if we can detach ourselves from results, it is even easier to be happy while doing what we do.
    Centuries-old cultural conditioning has given us a nasty neurosis: the belief that happiness must be “earned”. It can be “earned” only by enduring unpleasantness (e.g. work, pain, misery). But how do you know if you’ve endured enough unpleasantness to deserve happiness? Another unspoken game rule: “responsible adults” can never endure enough unpleasantness to truly deserve happiness.
    Laid on top of the first neurosis is the idea that spending money will make you happy. This is toffee coating on a bad puritan apple. If you spend enough money to give you the (advertised) conditions for happiness, the neurosis emerges in the form of apparently random worries, guilt, “feeling shitty”, etc. Worrying is the easiest and most popular way to negate happiness.
    So: we never stop working, we never stop spending money, we’re never really happy – ideal conditions, coincidentally, for a certain type of slave economy.
    Bliss is our true nature; remember it. And remember it again and again and again.

  457. k-dog February 15, 2012 at 4:27 pm #

    “short Middle Eastern Farmers in great numbers overcame the tall godlike Cro-Magnon/Neanderthal Hybrids of Old Europe. We still haven’t recovered.”
    Oh please, — I stay away from this bullshit but since I know better here I’m sayin.
    As the agricultural revolution spread. Genes from middle eastern men spread across Europe because as farmers they were a better deal for the local women. I believe that Spencer Wells determined 20% of European genes are the result of Middle Eastern Male farmer infiltration that took place over centuries and happened because farmers had bling. No other reason.
    Hardly great numbers overcoming.
    Somebody been pulling stuff out of their ass and posting it.
    But whats new.
    And recovered from what exactly?
    I’m going back to ignoring the bull.

  458. wagelaborer February 15, 2012 at 4:42 pm #

    See what I mean about keeping your sex life private?
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/15/couple-arrested-for-bondage-role-playing-on-valentines-day/

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  459. wagelaborer February 15, 2012 at 4:49 pm #

    Great comment, Tripp.
    Hey, the 5-08 hurricane left many downed trees around here.
    I noticed that many different kinds of mushrooms were growing on them. I figured that meant the trees were ready for mushrooms, so, in your honor, I ordered mushroom spores.
    When they got here, the instructions said that the trees should be 4 months dead, not 3 years. Doh!
    Then I remembered a piece of agricultural tradition passed down though an aphorism – “They treat us like mushrooms around here. Keep us in the dark and feed us bullshit”.
    And I remembered that, yes, I used to buy mushrooms from a place in Whittier that grew them on horseshit.
    So what’s with the trees? And I don’t know one tree from another, unfortunately, except for oak and maple and cedar.

  460. ront February 15, 2012 at 5:21 pm #

    What you say is true as regards the more choices the better. Limited thinking, fear, and assumptions are unhealthy and unfulfilling. This story does not suggest any of these. I think you may have “found” it yourself. For instance, the fact that the young men were taken off to fight the war was what happened in the story. There choosing to buck the authority, dodge the draft did not arise in the story.
    Still your notion of reacting habitually, be it passively or aggressively, is apt not to be the wisest option that exists. Remaining patient and poised in the face of difficult circumstances, and seeking wise counsel are better habits and will foster better options.

  461. myrtlemay February 15, 2012 at 5:39 pm #

    “No disrespect to Whitney Houston – a fine singer but no heroine of any kind.”
    No, she wasn’t a heroine, she LIKED heroin. I think Judy Garland died at about the same age (47). Your body can wear out pretty fast when you abuse it with drugs, so by 50, you’re pretty much fried. That being said, may she rest in peace.

  462. turkle February 15, 2012 at 5:44 pm #

    “Genius is akin to madness, Turk.”
    Sure, Vlad, but just because you’re insane doesn’t mean you are necessarily a genius. In other words, the inverse isn’t true.

  463. turkle February 15, 2012 at 5:46 pm #

    “As a mundane Liberal tribesman”
    *sigh*
    Why do I ALWAYS get tagged as some kind of arch-liberal by morons on the internet? You people must all be reading from the same script.

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  464. asoka. February 15, 2012 at 5:52 pm #

    Hi Myrtlemay,
    Have you checked with the CFN censors? You have to be careful when you make any comment related to a recently deceased person.
    I made a political joke last week that was directed at Grover Norquist, not Whitney, and got reprimanded.
    The censors said it was too soon… but they did not indicate on what date a joke would be permissible.
    The censors lack a sense of humor. Especially when it comes to comments related to the military.
    The censors themselves have tact and sensitivity and class and a sense of propriety, all of which they said I was lacking.
    Ironically, the censors were tactlessly taking cheap shots at my expense.

  465. asoka. February 15, 2012 at 6:00 pm #

    GREEN PARTY SUCCEEDS IN GETTING ON UTAH BALLOT
    For the past week, volunteers and staff for Jill Stein for President have been working day and night in Salt Lake City and neighboring communities. With Utah, the Green Party of the United States has secured 19 ballot lines, and has not missed a single deadline in working towards the goal of winning ballot access in almost every state.

  466. anti soak February 15, 2012 at 6:11 pm #

    Oh Yes! Have the cameras been removed? I think some cities are doing so.
    Long ago in Orange County we went up to the toll booth, to find it was Unmanned /Automatic and we didnt have the right amount of cash..so we drove thru and got a ticket mailed to us.
    The signage on some LA streets [like near Bundy] is so confusing, we went to the Getty Musuem, leaving the car just off Bundy and returned to a ticket..
    there were 3 signs posted, but non clearly said
    ‘permit parking only,including weekends. residential street’.

  467. Qshtik February 15, 2012 at 6:23 pm #

    I do believe I had the last laugh on that one.
    ===============
    Good story Dett but I like mine better. I told it before, about a year ago, so if you’ve read it please bear with me.
    I was busted by mail for failing to toss 35 cents in the basket of a toll booth on the Garden State Pkwy. I had been carpooling with 2 or 3 other guys for over 20 years and none of us ever tried to beat the toll by just speeding on through. This was all in the pre-EZPass days.
    What we often did however was to toss the change in the basket on the fly at 10 mph. This was common and if you were to come to a full stop you would be rear-ended, but if you DID come to a stop and got out of your car you could probably pick up several dollars of change off the ground from people whose money had bounced out of the basket. I can only assume that’s what happened to MY 35 cents.
    I was outraged by this ticket. It was going to cost me some ridiculous amount like $74 or whatever. I decided to go to court and fight it. On court day I was astonished. There must have been 150-200 people there just like me with all sorts of minor infractions including failure to pay the Pkwy toll.
    The judge, Ito or Wapner if memory serves, looking incredibly bored having probably sat through umpteen thousands of cases like this in his career, began working his way through the docket. One after the other he listened to each defendant’s sob story (cutting several of the more long-winded ones short in mid-sentence), most of them so lame I couldn’t believe this collection of fuck-ups would think they stood a prayer. Each and every person was declared guilty and directed to pay a fine of X $$$ at the cashier window to the left.
    Finally my name bubbled to the top:
    “Mr Q. Shtik”… “is Mr Q. Shtik here?”
    “It’s Qshtik your honor. The Q is not a first initial. It’s all one word. I am so famous on the Clusterfucknation blog, like Prince or Madonna or Beyonce, that I simply go by a single name. I am truly surprised you haven’t heard of me. Do you live under a rock or something?”
    Laughter from the gallery.
    Judge: “If you say the word fuck again you will be held in contempt.”
    More laughter.
    I mentally ran through my story while Ito/Wapner called the name on the ticket listed as complainant:
    “Officer Fascist Pig please step to the bench.”
    Brief hesitation..
    “Officer Pig?
    A shorter brief hesitation.
    Judge to other Court personnel: “Does anyone know if Officer Pig is here?” “Check the hallway, I’ll wait 15 seconds.”
    No Officer Pig.
    Mr Shtik, not guilty, you may leave.
    Next case.. “Mrs Zelda Gunch, you are accused of having been whupped severely with an ugly stick’ how do you plead?”
    The gallery: “GUILTY!!”
    I was out of the room with a shit-eatin grin on my face while GUILTY!! still rang in the hallways.
    The above is an essentially true account though some details may have been mis-remembered.

  468. welles February 15, 2012 at 6:39 pm #

    thanks for the info trippy, you are one of the extremely few real people on this blog, contributing to harmony/environment with your daily actions.
    there’s a lot more good in the world that the doomers out here posit.
    if 100 million americans planted a tree each it’d make a huge positive impact, something that simple.
    seems it’s up to folks like yourself to make up for the rest of us…..
    so many wonderful things sprout out of going back to the land with a mix of technology, even in a semi urban setting like yourself.
    peace peaceniks

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  469. mika. February 15, 2012 at 7:09 pm #

    Ront, I love you, but as you know I’ve long ago left all that infantile superstitious nonsense behind be. I don’t believe in god, and I don’t believe in good or bad fortune, or manifest destiny, or any such crap. If you have the will and you’re competent, good things will follow. If not, they wont. It’s that simple.

  470. myrtlemay February 15, 2012 at 7:46 pm #

    Well, I didn’t really mean any disrespect. I feel bad that Miss Houston played such a vital part in ending her life too soon. I guess we all have to watch our ‘p’s and ‘q’s. 😉

  471. progress2conserve February 15, 2012 at 7:53 pm #

    “See what I mean about keeping your sex life private?” -wage sexting-
    Wage, that’s a funny story in the link you posted.
    For those of you who don’t click links, the story concerns a couple in Oregon, male 31/female 27, who were playing a bondage game for Valentines. (The article does not say who won the coin toss as to who was to be dom and who was to be sub.) The police were called because the woman was seen, bound and naked, with her mouth covered with duct tape – in the back of the couple’s car.
    Strange goings on on the left coast, these days.
    But the most unfortunate thing about the article was the ad running next to it – of a handsome young couple standing next to their Chevy Cruise. The only saving grace for GM was that the girl had her clothes back on and her duct tape off – for the ad picture. ha.ho.he!
    =========================
    And as far as your guy who just deployed to Afghanistan. Jeebus H. Crutch, Wage – the man is a Lt. Colonel? And you said he’d been in the Natl. Guard for 30 years?
    He’s been making some pretty serious bucks on the public teat all this years – IMO, it’s about time he earned his keep doing what he’s actually supposed to be paid to do. I would probably have reacted as your coworkers did, on this one.
    What’s he doing at your hospital anyway?
    How many jobs does one man need?

  472. myrtlemay February 15, 2012 at 7:54 pm #

    Don’t know if I mentioned it before but I got off on my possession charge. Sorry, no funny story to tell. Frankly, it’s sad that our jack-booted, thug, police force chases after civilians who aren’t harming anyone when there are murderers and thieves (think banksters) running around free.

  473. progress2conserve February 15, 2012 at 8:08 pm #

    “if 100 million americans planted a tree each it’d make a huge positive impact, something that simple.”
    -wells-
    Nice sentiments, wells. And I concur with you about Tripp – he’s a great addition to the blog, and probably doing more good here, even, than he realizes.
    I’ve planted close to 100,000 trees in my days.
    Of course I cut them down every 29 years or so – so maybe I don’t count in your mathematics.
    I saw forestry studies 20 years ago that suggested that the North American landmass was actually functioning as a huge carbon sink – vacuuming up global CO2 – relative to the rest of the World. This was because so much of the NA landmass was cleared of timber in the 1900’s – and all that cutover land was growing back simultaneously.
    Of course, the immigration fueled population boom in the United States has tipped the scales the other direction since then, as timberland is cleared and farmland is paved.
    Sadly for the World, those studies are now moot, and more and more CO2 just accumulates in the atmosphere.

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  474. Vlad Krandz February 15, 2012 at 8:25 pm #

    You talk about Whites as if you weren’t one. You are still partially in the clutches of scientism and its alienation.
    It’s natural to prefer one’s own. In your case, that’s other Whites. If you had a child with a Black woman, that child would be less related to you than a random White on the street – a simple genetic fact.
    Liberals deny all this on the basis of bogus sentimental idealism – yet they follow it for the most part. Millions of Liberal Whites have fled the downfall of California. Their reasons: good schools, good air, less crowding etc. Never do they mention the real reason – the Bronwn Invasion. Liberal Whites are a tribe and like to hang around with other Liberal Whites. Of course, adopting 3rd world children is a ritual in their religion of Non Racism…

  475. mika. February 15, 2012 at 9:09 pm #

    Bloomberg – http://goo.gl/MsJ3w
    There are 57 Wall Street analysts in Bloomberg’s database who follow Apple Inc., and only one of them has a “sell” rating.. LOL!
    Q,
    This is your chance, don’t miss out now!

  476. progress2conserve February 15, 2012 at 9:10 pm #

    “Culture is nothing more than learned behavior.”
    -rhino-
    Rhino, there have to be genetic components to culture. We could argue about this until the cows come home and never settle it, though. And as you say – any such discussions or research flowing from them are forever off-limits due to political correctness. So – let’s move on:
    “And I’m suggesting some possible origins for this culture. Given the nastiness of black treatment maybe a lot of blacks take an oppositional stance towards the larger society. Whitey wants an IQ test? Fuck whitey….Fuck whitey…Fuck whitey”
    -rhino-
    Yeah, OK Rhino – but how does the black underclass ever get off this treadmill?
    Because the “fuck whitey” attitude seems worse that it did 10, 20, 30, and 148 years ago.
    That letter of the freed slave from Tennessee that Wage posted a week ago. Here was a man who LIVED slavery – yet, when freed by the Civil War he quickly found a job, made a life for himself, and either wrote that letter or found someone to write it for him.
    I started junior high in 1968. The school was freshly integrated and probably 50-50 black/white.
    (And all male – I’ve told CFN several times that it was like going to school in prison.) None of us, black males or white males, liked the situation. We didn’t want to be there and we took it out on each other and on the teachers.
    With all of that, though, the situation was tolerable – and some of us (white and black) actually learned some things from teachers and out of books.
    I KNOW that much less learning is occurring in that school today, even though much more money is being spent on it. And that school is now HEAVILY minority.
    The civil rights act was passed in ’64.
    Things were supposed to get better for blacks.
    For the black underclass, things are worse.
    You seem to suggest that “nastiness of black treatment” gives US blacks a perpetual excuse.
    So, how do US members of the black underclass ever get off of the “fuck whitey” treadmill, Rhino?

  477. trippticket February 15, 2012 at 9:15 pm #

    You’re quoting Vlad there, not me. You know that, right?

  478. trippticket February 15, 2012 at 9:39 pm #

    I’ve only got about 1000 trees to my credit so far, but I don’t cut them all down like POC does, so maybe that counts for something! Most of mine are food producing trees, too, or stock for small streambank stabilization projects.
    May sound sketchy to some, but there’s nothing like the feeling you get from interupting the waste flushing export pattern and keeping it all in the garden and orchard. It’s really a surprising amount of free, top quality compost to suddenly have on hand. Not to mention the drinking water saved, a gallon and a half at a time.

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  479. progress2conserve February 15, 2012 at 9:45 pm #

    Hey Tripp –
    Congratulations on your new place! I’m very happy for y’all. Here follow some random observations – stuff that you probably already know, but maybe it will help someone.
    The big deal about getting a structure permitted and inspected in Georgia (and most/all other states, as far as I know) is that this process leads you the the “Occupancy Permit.”
    An Occupancy Permit grants you two important privileges. One, is the right to have permanent electric power connected. The other is the right to a USPO mailing address and a mailbox located at the closest public road to your new house.
    Sounds like you, tripp, won’t be needing a power hookup to your house. Good for you! And if you ever do happen to want power, the local power company (GPC or whichever EMC serves you up there) – will be happy to hook “temporary” power to a pole that you provide. I’ve known people who ran on temporary power for years and years, apparently there is no time limit.
    The mailing address thing is a bigger deal to work around. In fact, I can’t think of a work around for this. You can get a “911 address” very easily – but there are things that just require a snail mail address. I’m sure you’ll think of something.
    That’s awesome that you are eying the neighboring properties for acquisition, post-collapse. I do the same thing over here. A couple of my buddies will get phone calls if anything in my immediate vicinity comes on the market. And these are the same – very select – couple of buddies who have a standing invite to my place, with their families in tow, should things ever get untenable where they live.
    ================
    BTW, what are you doing about water at your new place, if you don’t mind my asking?

  480. trippticket February 15, 2012 at 9:53 pm #

    “You talk about Whites as if you weren’t one. You are still partially in the clutches of scientism and its alienation.”
    It’s not that. You know how the very religious will say that they feel more comfortable around people of the same religious persuasion, regardless of race, than they do around atheists of their own color?
    It’s more like that. I’m just in a different place than most whites. I feel more comfortable with other horticulturalists, regardless of skin tone, than I do around farmers, even if they’re white like me. Agriculture is just sort of a 10,000 year old bad dream I wish more people would wake up from.

  481. trippticket February 15, 2012 at 10:01 pm #

    “BTW, what are you doing about water at your new place, if you don’t mind my asking? ”
    Not at all. There’s an old well bore onsite that we plan to put a manual pump on. Also a spring just to the east that hopefully has drinking quality water trickling out of it. Both will be new to me, so we’ll see how it goes. Water catchment will obviously be part of the plan as well.
    Not sure about the 911 address yet. We have a PO box for now.
    Thanks for the good wishes! I’m sure we’ll be seeing more of you in the future.

  482. progress2conserve February 15, 2012 at 10:22 pm #

    “I’m very surprised that you would consider my view of the future dystopian, Procon, when I was trying to show how awe-inspiring it could be with technological advancement and the resultant personal freedom of the masses….”
    -bill of Boston-
    Bill, I took another look at your post last night, right before I turned in. In fact, I think I dreamed about it. So – if you’ve ever wanted your prose to be the stuff of a (no-longer-quite-so) young man’s dreams – you may have achieved that goal.
    It may surprise you, but I agree with you that the future for humanity MAY contain awe-inspiring advancement and personal freedom. And I certainly agree with you that humanity will likely have to go through some sort of population “keyhole event,” before that better future gets here.
    The reason I called it your “distopian” view of the future – was the way you invoked an elite set of Powers That Be – that are working to achieve this better future – with themselves still on top, permanently.
    Maybe it’s just the Scotch-Irish in me. I don’t like being ruled by an elite. Hell, I don’t like being ruled by anybody. I only accepted the orders of various authority figures in various chains of command in my working life – because I liked getting paid more than I liked living on the street and foraging through dumpsters.
    Beyond that, though – I go back and forth on whether there is an actual organized elite set of PTB. AND IF there is – I will always likely contend that they are not that smart at all; more likely they are dumb as a box of rocks, based on their performance to date.
    When did your PTB come into power?
    Why didn’t they realize population was going to be a problem back in the 70’s – and do something about it, worldwide?
    Why do your PTB continue to let the US pack itself full to far beyond overcapacity – even today, despite knowing death is on the horizon?
    (You call them amoral – but this seems excessively so.)
    Where do your PTB plan to live?
    Are your PTB organized by race or religion?
    If they are not so organized, HOW will they keep their elite status intact – going forward?
    Have your PTB considered that the Chinese, to name one subset of humanity with its OWN PTB – might not be on board with their same set of plans.
    ======================
    Nice post though, Bill.
    And obviously it hit a nerve with me.
    So, thank you for making me think!

  483. asoka. February 15, 2012 at 10:57 pm #

    …humanity will likely have to go through some sort of population “keyhole event,” before that better future gets here.

    An important point of BTB’s post is that the future is “in a world we can scarcely imagine.”
    Many on CFN imagine that future will be worse. The option of a more positive future is scarcely imaginable.
    BTB, in a later post, made it explicit by saying:

    I was trying to show how awe-inspiring it could be with technological advancement and the resultant personal freedom of the masses because of that technology.

    In other words, a more positive view of the future, one rarely admitted or seen on CFN.
    Equally, the possibility exists that a “short haircut” (what you call a “population keyhole event”) will not be necessary.
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

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  484. Eleuthero February 15, 2012 at 11:00 pm #

    Mika said:
    Q,
    My saged recommendation to you is to buy AAPL. Put everything into AAPL. Borrow as much as you can from your broker and buy AAPL!!
    Listen to my wisdom. It will teach you well.
    ************************************************************
    You are “Wrong Way Corrigan”, Mika. The Palo Alto Apple Store which had furious activity throughout 2011 has “suddenly” had a massive drop-off of business and is cancelling two-thirds of their classes. I know two of the employees.
    Why do people advise mortgaging the home to SPECULATE on a stock whose success is mostly in the rearview mirror?? To me, this idea of the stock market as an “ATM” is just as loony as the idea of your house being an ATM.
    E.

  485. progress2conserve February 15, 2012 at 11:38 pm #

    “There is no limit to how many people we can love.”
    -asoka.-
    Sure there is, a..
    Even when I was in my early 20’s, my limit was generally one per night.
    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091126135747AAw6JhC

  486. k-dog February 16, 2012 at 12:10 am #

    🙂

  487. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 12:17 am #

    But that was when you were in your early 20’s.
    Love for you today does not equal sex. You can now be around women without the risk of raping them, unlike how Fox News’ Liz Trotta portrays military men.
    Men and women can be together and love one another without sex, so we need not deny ourselves wonderful non-sexual relationships with a beautiful half of the species.
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  488. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 12:29 am #

    From yr Link:
    ‘It is believed, on the basis of genetic evidence, that all human beings in existence now descend from one single man who lived in Africa about 60,000 ‘
    YEAH RIGHT, ONE SINGLE MAN…Im like WTF!

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  489. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 12:31 am #

    Its possible Australia and all it Abos are from one woman, assuming she arrived there 60,000 years ago pregnant with twins, one male, one female…
    or even one male offspring who mated with her and his own female offspring…
    BUT ONE MALE DONT MAKE JACK S**T.

  490. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 12:36 am #

    “There is no limit to how many people we can love.”
    -asoka.-
    You are wrong. Of course there is a limit, for humans as biological organisms, on a planet with finite resources.
    But as long as the electricity stays on and the food trucks keep running – this limit will not be acknowledged by the forces responsible for a growing US population.
    The greater the US population – the worse the consequences, for humans on planet Earth.

  491. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 12:38 am #

    Well, it looks like the Republicans caved.
    Obama won the fight to extend the current 2 percent payroll tax cut for 160 million workers through the end of the year, saving the average family about $1,000. Damn that Obama, putting $1,000 directly into 160 million pockets.
    Obama also won the battle to prevent a cut in doctor payments under Medicare, and Obama won the battle to get extended unemployment benefits for those out of work. Damn that Obama. Vote for Jill Stein, Green Party. She has long-term solutions.

  492. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 12:43 am #

    “But as long as the electricity stays on and the food trucks keep running…”
    ===============
    P2C you are spouting nonsense. People loved each other before electricity and food trucks. Love is not dependent on fossil fuels.
    I am right about this and you know it. You are intentionally being a resident impediment by denying something so obvious.
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

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  494. mika. February 16, 2012 at 12:55 am #

    You are “Wrong Way Corrigan”, Mika.
    ==
    I’m never wrong, comrade. Just that in your rush to execute me, comrade tavarish, you missed the heavy sarc tags. Twice! And I do believe I have called a market top, pretty much to the minute! 🙂

  495. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 12:58 am #

    Earlier this week someone posted that ‘RAPE IS ABOUT POWER’…Baa, This ‘feminist theory’ was refuted long ago…see ‘THE DARK SIDE OF MAN’..
    It has able citations.
    That was ‘against our will, men, women,rape’
    a ‘feminist classic from circa 1970’
    He refutes that with ample evidence rapists are usually poor and prefer young cute victims.
    Has nada to do with power.

  496. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 1:06 am #

    “…rapists are usually poor and prefer young cute victims.”
    ===============
    So, due to an economic draft, the volunteer army is composed of poor soldiers who cannot resist raping young cute women soldiers. Or, as Liz Trotta said, “the soldiers are raping too much” … if only the military soldiers would rape in the right amount. But those young women soldiers are so damn cute they bring it on themselves, right antisoak?

  497. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 1:08 am #

    “P2C you are spouting nonsense. People loved each other before electricity and food trucks. Love is not dependent on fossil fuels.”
    “There is no limit to how many people we can love.”
    -the Resident Impediment, ignoring the fact that people who lack the resources* to live, can not love-
    *resources like food, mostly from fossil fuel –
    and like water, pumped with electricity
    ==================
    “Nothing is impossible to the man who doesn’t have to do it himself.”
    http://www.dharmadam.info/best_quotes.asp?sltr=n

  498. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 1:29 am #

    resources like food, mostly from fossil fuel –
    and like water, pumped with electricity

    =============
    There you go again, as Ronnie used to say. I am happy that your hatred for me does not prevent you from replying to my posts.
    P2C, food and water are not dependent on fossil fuel. You are reading Tripp’s CFN posts, so you know that even in Georgia one can utilize permaculture to develop sustainable horticulture not dependent on external energy inputs. God provides sunlight, and God provides rainfall. For millenia before oil people survived just fine without fossil fuel. Humans didn’t just survive. They thrived and they loved one another. You cannot deny this love. Nor can you deny that, as in the past, in this very moment:
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

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  499. Vlad Krandz February 16, 2012 at 1:42 am #

    And how many non White permies do you know? And the ones in New Guinea and a few other places? They would give it up in a heart beat for flush toilets and TV. You and your fellow White Tribesmen are unique – revel in it.
    You embrace it consciously – they never had the choice. Big difference. And we had to go thru these thousands of years of development to get to the place where we could see this choice and make it.

  500. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 1:45 am #

    “There is no limit to how many people we can love.” -asoka., being an impediment, repetitively-
    Thus, we have a new sobriquet for asoka. –
    – – – The Resident Impediment – – –
    Asoka. may, from know on be also known as –
    – – – The Repetitive Impediment – – –
    – – The Repetitive Residential Impediment – – –
    -TRRI-
    ================================
    And this is stupid, a.. I quit.
    Love as many people as your Impedimentary Heart desires. Just subtract one love, for me.
    And add one hate.

  501. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 1:51 am #

    Just subtract one love, for me.
    No can do partner. My heart loves everyone, including you.
    If other hearts hate, so be it…
    I have no control over the hearts of others.
    From my own experience I only know about love and its limitless possibilities.
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  502. Vlad Krandz February 16, 2012 at 1:57 am #

    Power and sex and totally interconnected. Some kinds of rape are about power and some are about taking power in order to get sex. It’s far more diversified that Feminst Theory would allow – since their motive to smear all men. I mean what kind of person says all intercourse is rape? And then we let these scum teach our daughters? And then we don’t expect the relationship between the sexes to not go to hell?

  503. Vlad Krandz February 16, 2012 at 2:10 am #

    Bravo Prog. The White Race is the most individualistic of them all. And of Whites, the Northern European the most. And of Northern Europeans, the Celt is the most. What good high tech this and high tech that if it leads to being ruled by a bunch of Globalist Creeps?
    I like part of BTB’s vision but I love the idea of new colonies on other world’s even more. The same ideal if it fails here on Earth. Or even if it doesn’t – men want nauturally want to begin new things, things that are uniquely their own.

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  504. k-dog February 16, 2012 at 2:13 am #

    Fred is very good this week.

  505. Vlad Krandz February 16, 2012 at 2:25 am #

    Yes. Yes. Yes. You are seeing. Rhino’s way is the way we took and look where it got us: always more of the same, always self perpetuating.
    Of course look at historical causes but don’t get stuck there. Life is always new. The present must not be enslaved to the past. And of course, the Jews want us “to never forget” as well. And with great cleverness have used the law of association to incriminate all Whites in their holocaust. All Whites are Anti-Semites waiting to happen – even those who helped them defeat their enemies. Nice folks, reeeeaal nice.

  506. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 2:38 am #

    Still we like you as a Person!
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  507. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 2:41 am #

    ‘. Agriculture is just sort of a 10,000 year old bad dream I wish more people would wake up from.’
    I am laughing as i write this, from the city with an ‘ombudsperson’….
    DEAR GOD SPARE ME FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY CROWD.
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  508. k-dog February 16, 2012 at 2:42 am #

    Nothing strange there really.
    A direct analogy is that I have an ancestor who lived in New England in the early 1600’s. That man has millions of offspring in North America of which I am only one of them. Noting strange because that man is thirteen generations back from me. I have many other great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfathers. He is only one of 8192.
    Back less than 400 years and ‘siblings’ of your ancestors can easily number in the millions. Families were large then. Many died but those who lived had lots of descendents. These are the yeast people of CFN land.
    So how far back does one have to go to find an ancestor from whom all are related? The answer is 60,000 years.
    And science can trace it.

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  509. Eleuthero February 16, 2012 at 2:44 am #

    But, Fred, who writes on “Everything” because we’re to acknowledge that he’s an EXPERT on everything, is just another person who posits that American workers, wink/wink nudge/nudge, are somehow of lower character than their putative Mexican replacements. I beg to differ.
    Again, I hate to introduce FACTS into Fred’s soup but if you look up the demographics of CRIME in American cities, Hispanics are second only to blacks. Their educational achievement is at a low level, again, second only to blacks.
    Fred should ask displaced American construction workers if they’d like their jobs back. Fred’s Anti-Gringoism is tiresome and is just another form of reverse racism. Fred got laid in Mexico and wherever Fred got a good lay is a great place to Fred.
    Fred … should take his soliloquiys and put ’em where the moon don’t shine.
    E.

  510. Eleuthero February 16, 2012 at 2:45 am #

    See my comment about “Fred” above.
    E.

  511. Eleuthero February 16, 2012 at 2:55 am #

    I feel like continuing my rant because Fred is another of these self-anointed “seers” who engage in the romanticizing of the “noble savage”. In ALL primitive cultures, there is bravery, the relentless fight against starvation and being plundered by other tribes, etc..
    Mexico is such a bankrupt culture that even their ethnic music, Mariachi, is not of Mexican origin. It is of GERMAN origin. I am in a constant state of amazement on this site at the noble savage worship of even some of the most erudite, well-motivated souls herein.
    However, I think I’d have an immediate coronary occlusion if I ever heard the noble savage worshippers praise Danes or Germans or Norwegians or Poles … you know … YOUR FUCKING ANCESTORS … that’s all. Do you all have GUILT about your origins or do you fear that all ethnic pride in whites should be hidden in the back of an infinitely long closet.
    This is an area where your favorite target, Vlad, actually makes searingly accurate points. The idea that a Swedish-American has to mute their pride because even the smallest exhibition of it is “racist” should be a source of deep SHAME to anyone who fancies that they’re an honest intellectual and an honest mensch. It’s one of THE dumbest aspects of progressive liberalism.
    E.

  512. tegmark February 16, 2012 at 2:57 am #

    From:
    http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/64293-give-us-back-good-old-fascism/
    [quote name='michel123456' timestamp='1329337495' post='658762']
    Well I agree somehow about the analysis.
    What is your model for a solution?
    [/quote]
    I have posted my solutions extensively under the http://www.ilovephilosophy.com social forums and under http://www.kunstler.com blogs:
    Essentially:
    1) Free Salaries to all, about 800 dollars a month since we live in an excess capacity free wealth generating economy thanks to the Technological Economy’s huge economies of scale, automations, optimizations, etc. There is no longer any excuse for any poverty except if it is explicitly desired forced and planned by old fashion Ape Man ideologies and social structures;
    2) Cheap or Free Rents, since we have many empty houses, at least 15 million empty homes across the USA and maybe 20 million empty homes from Lisbon to Moscow in Europe; (I am assuming the readers are mostly from the USA, EU and JAPAN, but this is valid in many parts of the world anyways);
    3) Huge Public Private Projects like Huge Increase of Consumerism, Millions of Skyscrapers, Rockets to Mars, High Speed Trains, You Name it, anything and everything that activates huge projects for the common good, huge collective endeavors so all have a goal and function as opposed to the fashionable “small businesses” and “startup ideology” and “be your own boss” ideology that dominates today so that everyone fights everyone else and doesn’t create collective constructions and endeavors.
    4) It goes without saying that Nature is to be Used and Conquered and it is not a Religion or something spiritual: Man must use up all of Nature to finally achieve Mind Over Matter, the Final Symbol Over Matter War Won By Symbol aka as “KILL NATURE”.
    I hate the Greens, Environmentalists, and most of the dominating Standard Economic Theory.
    AMEN.
    Check out:
    http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=177835
    SKOTT FREE HANDOUTS
    I want that, I want free stuff, why don’t the OWSers ask for free stuff, free all, free stuff and you will be free! Are they afraid of “bad manners” ? Do they really think this “economic system” is based on anything else but crap, turds, layabouts and thieves ? Why is Bill Gates, who robbed 50 billion dollars considered “valuable” and all of those asking for scott free handouts “criminals” ? We need free stuff, this system won’t generate anymore jobs because they are not needed.”
    “The system has a very hard time repressing all the excess wealth it generates and has a very hard time distributing it because of stone age old fashioned economic laws. Hence the wealth accumulates in the 1 %, but the 99 %, the OWSers don’t ask for the only thing really capable of changing this situation: SCOTT FREE HANDOUTS, FREE SALARIES OF 800 DOLLARS A MONTH, CHEAP RENTS OF 200 DOLLARS A MONTH FOR A 3 BEDROOM HOUSE, ETC.
    Therefore the mathematical solution is scott free handouts to all, cheap rents, trillions of new skyscrapers, new rockets, cars, you get the idea.”

  513. desg04c0 February 16, 2012 at 3:22 am #

    As president of the Council of Fashion Designers of America, Diane von Furstenberg is New York Fashion Week's unofficial hostess. So naturally, her front row is a who's who of the fashion and media worlds, from hubbie Barry Diller to Anderson Cooper, Barbara Walters, Diane Sawyer, Oscar de la Renta, Solange Knowles, Molly Sims, Rachel Zoe and on and on.

    Her fall show, dubbed "Rendez-Vous" or "a meeting with suspense and expectation," was all about glamour at a moment's notice. With her lifetime of jet-setting and brand building, that is something Von Furstenberg certainly knows about.

    The designer reinterpreted her famous wrap dress as a kind of wrap jumpsuit with a plunging front. It came in several iterations, but one of the prettiest was a pink lily color, worn with a port red coat. Bright hues have been a fashion trend for a couple of seasons now, but Von Furstenberg made color theory an art form with the styling of this collection,chaussures nike, pairing a citrus lime satin halter top with a pair of beet red trousers for example, and a cerulean blue, drapey sleeveless top tucked into a scarlet red crepe pencil skirt.

    Of course, when it comes to preparing for a potential rendezvous, every woman should have a little black dress in her arsenal. And there were plenty here — shimmering with sequins, shimmying with chain fringe, or scattered with puzzle-piece-shaped chiffon appliques. Accessories, including clutches with lip-shaped clasps, and heart-shaped minaudieres, added to the romantic intrigue. 

    RELATED:    

    — Booth Moore in New York

    Photos: Looks from Diane von Furstenberg's New York Fashion Week show Sunday at Lincoln Center. Credit: Frazer Harrison / Getty Images

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  514. Pucker February 16, 2012 at 4:16 am #

    My ancestors came from Wales. I understand that the warrior class of my ancestors were bi-sexual cannibals who used to go into battle naked with their bodies covered in bright blue paint and waving huge battle axes.

  515. Pucker February 16, 2012 at 4:23 am #

    E. wrote: “Fred got laid in Mexico and wherever Fred got a good lay is a great place to Fred.”
    Don’t tell Wilma.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Flintstone

  516. tegmark February 16, 2012 at 4:42 am #

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    That was from:
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  518. 8man February 16, 2012 at 4:50 am #

    That was all from:
    http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/64293-give-us-back-good-old-fascism/
    Thank You. You are Welcome.

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  519. 8man February 16, 2012 at 5:12 am #

    From:
    http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/64293-give-us-back-good-old-fascism/
    “You better get used to being bored, to not having anything to do anymore, to not having any goals anymore, to not achieving your “career”, to not being equal to all the other turds anymore, to not thinking that you are a special little turd who “worked hard” to have more than Mrs Jones next door, who is a layabout, welfare queen, etc.”
    Does that read right ?
    I wanted to say:
    “You better get used to being bored, to never having anything to do anymore, to never having any goals anymore, to never achieving your “career” again, to not being better to all the other turds anymore, to stop thinking that you are a special little turd who “worked hard” to have more than Mrs Jones next door, who is a layabout, welfare queen, etc.”
    or
    “You better get used to being bored, to having nothing to do forever from now on, to having NO goals forever from now on, to never having any kind of “career” again, to being exactly equal to all the other turds, hence never better than anyone else forever from now on, to stop thinking that you are a special little turd who “worked hard” to have more than Mrs Jones next door, who is a layabout, welfare queen, etc.”
    From:
    http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=177835
    That was from comment number 17 from the beginning of thread, at Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:32 am
    [quote=”nameta9″]Existentialism ?
    I know, I understand, it would be like “giving up”, like “declaring defeat”, a scott free pure FREE RIDE, HANDOUT, a FREE LUNCH just doesn’t click with our stone age mental computer program. But most of all, most people would think “Now What ?”, they wouldn’t have “Anything to Do” (as if they are actually doing much anyways in most jobs today), they have been programmed (since the stone ages, but actually during the stone ages they just did “what was necessary”, much smarter than us forcing ourselves to do a lot of make believe effort that leads to nothing, go figure) to always “Do Something”, to always have a “Goal” a “Target”, etc. Well, guess what ? The era of work labor, targets and goals are over forever, it will never come back again, it is no longer in the cards, just suck it up and get used to it, this is the “New Normal”. The Technological Economy eliminates way more (real) jobs than it creates, just say it, admit it, don’t hide the facts anymore.
    We should really “Give Up”, that is exactly what we would should do, “Declare Defeat”, that is the right thing to do, don’t worry, it’s ok, there is nothing wrong with that, you will be ok, it is not a sin, god won’t punish you. And in fact the best thing to do is to park thousands of trillions of new people that will be born (because we will really need them all to build our thousands of trillions of skyscrapers, rockets and cadillacs) in front of TVs and let them watch TV for 24 hours a day for trillions of years. That is perfection achieved, an automatic life, all problems solved, you have achieved all, you can’t get much better, it can never get much better than this. Of course all the environmentalist and greenies and alternative lifestyle thugs are against TV, they are still fighting that same battle since the 1950s, go figure, what c*cks! But TV is the solution not the problem.
    You better get used to being bored, to not having anything to do anymore, to not having any goals anymore, to not achieving your “career”, to not being equal to all the other turds anymore, to not thinking that you are a special little turd who “worked hard” to have more than Mrs Jones next door, who is a layabout, welfare queen, etc.
    And yet, when real projects and real goals, real targets and real large scale efforts are proposed, in short REAL WORK FOR REAL ACHIEVEMENTS, everyone runs away, everyone criticizes them, everyone calls them socialism and bad and killing nature and Resources are Running Out and we can’t do them, the crappy democratic process of everyone against everyone would block all the projects (that is why we would need an Iron Fist Communist Dictatorship) etc. But at the same time, they all chant and think that they will be “their own little bosses”, they will work hard “to achieve their own little puny goals” against others, to compare themselves against others instead of taking on the real big dog which is nature and real large scale projects that really mean something and really are achieving.
    Obama should declare:
    “FROM NOW ON, WE WILL GIVE OUT FREE LUNCHES, FREE RIDES TO ALL, SCOTT FREE HANDOUTS, WE WILL GIVE OUT FREE SALARIES OF 800 DOLLARS A MONTH TO ALL, AND A CHEAP RENT OF 200 DOLLARS A MONTH FOR ALL, AND ALSO START HUGE LARGE SCALE PUBLIC PRIVATE PROJECTS LIKE HIGH SPEED TRAINS ALL ACROSS THE USA, ROCKETS TO MARS AND VENUS, A MAN ON MARS AND VENUS BY THE YEAR 2020, A COMPLETE TOTAL PUBLIC MASS TRANSPORTATION OF BUS SYSTEMS ALL ACROSS THE USA SINCE OUR ECONOMIC SYSTEM NOW HAS SUCH HUGE EXCESS CAPACITY THAT IT CAN EASILY ACHIEVE ALL OF THIS. THE FED WILL JUST PRINT ALL THE CASH WE NEED FOR THIS INSTEAD OF JUST HANDING IT OVER TO THE BANKS (AKA THE SAME OLD RICH INDIRECTLY OVER AND OVER AGAIN) ”
    In fact, Excess Capacity is really what this Technological Economy is all about: we have such huge economies of scale, so many millions of people idle worldwide, and so much free money that we could start hundreds of huge large scale projects and at the same time give out scott free handouts to hundreds of millions without any problem at all. Instead all of the excess capacity that can express itself (since the economic system must repress as much excess capacity from expressing itself as possible by keeping hundreds of millions of potential workers (so many young kids all across the planet) idle or else we would be saturated with goods and cash in banks, go figure) is simply converted into trillions of dollars that the same old few thousands of rich families worldwide hog up, not even wanting all that cash but simply because the system automatically is set up to make that excess capacity expressed in cash accumulate in the hands of the top 1 %.
    And ironically, it is actually very hard for them to spend so much cash, trillions upon trillions of dollars: just think, how on earth can you really spend all that cash ? it is really insane! Once those families buy their new house and their Cadillac, well now what ? what else can they possibly spend it on ? another house and an Oldsmobile ninety eight, but then there is still way too much cash to know what to do with, so they just play global poker games with finance, stock markets, banks, speculation and all, and call it “Advanced Services”, while any real large scale projects are considered bad, socialism and the welfare state.
    There won’t be any more real jobs in the future, unless you simply invent them: we could write down all the Internet web pages with paper and pencil (or in Europe on Paper and Pen), write all the contents of Computers on paper, millions of people writing things on paper, that would create a lot of work.
    Of course, it is all wrong, I am a clown, I admit it: if even one millimeter of what I said would be applied it would all go haywire, the mental computer programs would crash in a jiffy, how I love to be wrong, to see all my large scale theoretical structures collapse in a jiffy, how it would reveal how wrong I was on everything by just trying to apply one bit, what a failure…
    QUO VADIS, BABY ?
    TOBOR AN 8 MAN[/quote]

  520. mika. February 16, 2012 at 7:48 am #

    9/11: A Conspiracy Theory in 5 minutes
    http://goo.gl/szSFD

  521. lbendet February 16, 2012 at 8:32 am #

    Ya gotta love those untouchables in Congress
    Last night on”The Daily Show, Jon Stewart interviewed (D) Rep. Louise Slaughter, Leahy and Grassley who first drafted the act against congressional insider trader. “Political intelligence” was a big part of the bill.
    The Congress has subverted the bill through suspension and as usual it is so watered down that it doesn’t stop the illegal process.
    From the mind of Clinton they need to determine what is is.
    So the guys who write the laws are exempting themselves from the law. These guys along with the top 1% are living in the unregulated universe where nothing they do is ever wrong.
    Nixon once said, “When the President does it, that means it is not illegal.”
    So what else is new?

  522. tegmark February 16, 2012 at 9:01 am #

    From:
    http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=178178
    Another reason why the “West”, the “First World”, the Three Stooges USA, EU and JAPAN are in a rut economically is because the amount of work and new jobs, opportunities, startups and businesses, the amount of new “Possibilities to Produce a Profit”, as that is the only real reason any endeavor is started, is proportional to the Speed of Change and Introduction of New Technologies: case in point: during the 1960s, 70s, 80s and up until the 90s technology was changing constantly in the sense that there were always new ways to do old things and new things to do or that could be done economically but couldn’t be done previously (like electronics applied to cars and such) mostly thanks to Moore’s Law (every two years the number of transistors that can be placed on a Silicon Chip doubles and such but we are now at the end of the line, we have maybe only 3 or 4 years left of Moore’s Law Free Lunch) and other novelties like Software, then Internet and in other fields Genetic Engineering and such.
    But the change corresponded to new companies and production processes and hence new hires and jobs, so that a company that didn’t need to produce 5 circuit boards but only 1 thanks to integration had other new problems to solve like maybe software and packaging and logistics and other problems that previously were not there because the technology did not impose them. So this created a constant flow of old companies closing and new companies opening, old jobs dying and some new jobs being born (but I am sure the amount of new jobs was and will always be less than the amount of initial jobs, the number of jobs are always less than the initial amount as a Technological Economy destroys more jobs than creates them by definition, structurally, from the outset since technology is introduced to save money, cut costs and this means, no matter what, somewhere down the line job cuts and less work needed).
    But this process was tied in deeply to the exact sequence of change of technology that occurred, it was a one time play out, a one shot game, a one time quirk that happened only because the combination of technologies and events, the particular specific one time combination could occur only once and in that exact way and never will occur again, at least never again in a similar fashion that happened then.
    And this is the problem: the Standard Economic Model pretends, wants to believe, makes believe (whether on purpose or to simply hose workers and such) that that sequence of events is a given, will always occur in the same way and generate jobs in the same way as they did in the past (and therefore the constant Drone of “More Education”, “More Innovation”, more “Competition” “Be Your Own Boss since we will all become Inventors – Startups” and such): but this is false, is not possible and in fact we are having a very hard time creating “new jobs” exactly because most of the application of innovation is presently killing jobs and most of all because the way the application of innovation created jobs was due simply to the process of the application of innovation going through a set of stages where each stage killed jobs and created some. But there are no more stages left, the set is finished, over, end of story.
    And most of all, most of the application of innovation has been achieved, is finished doing its “job”, we are at the end of the line in technologies creating new jobs, we are at a saturation point, at an end point, web pages and APPs and such just won’t cut it anymore.
    So this game is now mostly over, there are very few new technologies that seem to be creating “new jobs”; nay, they are mostly destroying jobs: the creation of IPHONE APPS or Data Centers for FACEBOOK can create some, but never enough to really employ millions of people, and then these jobs are accumulative, the more work is done perfecting these data centers and APPs the less need for that kind of work will there be in the future.
    So, as you see, any real attempt at explaining the economy today must come from random anonymous people thinking with their own minds and trying to understand what is happening, you won’t hear any professional economist or theoretical social scientists ever explain anything that isn’t the same old Standard Economic Model BS, the standard BS they have all been chanting for decades, and if it is not them then you will find the same old “Nature Loving” (as if Nature is a new Religion – I HATE NATURE, KILL NATURE!) Resource Scarcity Myth crowd explaining how we all must go back to the Stone Ages to Save Nature, Hug Trees, and OIL is running out, Man is Bad because Consumerism is Bad, TV is Bad, We are “TOO MANY PEOPLE” and such BS. The truth is the exact opposite: we can host thousands of trillions of people in trillions of Skyscrapers, We can explore the Solar System and Split the Sun and Grab an Infinite Amount of Energy and so on. And TV is the best thing to ever happen to Man, a completely automatic life, just park thousands of trillions of people in front of TVs for trillions of years 24 hours a day. AMEN.
    In other words, I am the only one who has figured out all of this crap in the entire world, everyone else is wrong and sucks and is brainwashed. Learn something jackas*ses, study all of my posts very carefully…
    So if the amount of work and new jobs is proportional to the Speed of Change and Introduction of New Technologies, this means that the speed of change has slowed down quite a bit, and the introduction of new technologies (real new technologies, not web pages or APPS which are just good old computer programs or GROUPON which are just good old coupons and such) has also slowed down quite a bit: and in fact name me a really new technology that has been introduced in the last decade ? None at all, it is always new combinations and applications of old technology used differently and such.
    And you won’t hear any professional economist or theoretical social scientists ever explain anything that isn’t the same old Standard Economic Model BS, because if they were to admit that the Technological Economy destroys jobs and will keep on destroying jobs the only solution would be FREE SALARIES TO ALL, CHEAP RENTS AND HUGE PRIVATE PUBLIC PROJECTS LIKE SKYSCRAPERS AND ROCKETS TO MARS, ETC. AND NOT, I REPEAT NOT “MORE EDUCATION”, AND “MORE INNOVATION” AND “MORE COMPETITION” (so as to make it seem as if it is always the workers fault and shortcomings and not the system structurally).
    TOBOR AN APE MAN

  523. tegmark February 16, 2012 at 9:08 am #

    And you won’t hear any professional economist or theoretical social scientists ever explain anything that isn’t the same old Standard Economic Model BS, because if they were to admit that the Technological Economy destroys jobs and will keep on destroying jobs the only solution would be FREE SALARIES TO ALL, CHEAP RENTS AND HUGE PRIVATE PUBLIC PROJECTS LIKE SKYSCRAPERS AND ROCKETS TO MARS, ETC. AND NOT, I REPEAT NOT “MORE EDUCATION”, AND “MORE INNOVATION” AND “MORE COMPETITION” (so as to make it seem as if it is always the worker’s fault and shortcomings and not the system structurally).
    TOBOR AN APE MAN

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  524. Dirk February 16, 2012 at 9:38 am #

    ‘Gaia’ as in the ‘Gaia hypothesis’ states, in essence, that the earth and its natural systems et al are one, gigantic organism. To wit, anything done to one part affects all; you can’t ‘get away with’ damaging or abusing one thing without damaging all. Of course, we are finding this out in spades these days both environmentally and socially. So……I believe JK is speaking to the idea that the world economies are interlinked, intertwined, and interdependent. Somehow there is a wishful thinking lot out there that believes when the EU rolls over and goes into a flat spin, the US economy will be OK. Gaia.

  525. Dirk February 16, 2012 at 9:48 am #

    Well I don’t know about YOU negative Nellies but I, for one, was very relieved to hear that Ol’ Warren B. has just declared that he is ‘BULLISH’ on the stock market for 2012!! (He was holding his hand up in the air and everything!!!) Hooray! We’re saved!!! Phew!!! Now…..I can’t speak for YOU but nothing gives ME more comfort than when a multi-billionaire capitalist says, “It’s cool…It’s cool….put yer money in.” I mean all this talk about ‘end of growth’ and ‘compressive deflationay contraction’ or ‘collapse of the EU’ had me nervous there for a while, but now….well….all I can say is neener neener……….*ahem*…..ah….neener.

  526. tegmark February 16, 2012 at 9:57 am #

    From:
    http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=178178
    Subtle Device
    And in fact, the emphasis on “More Education”, “More Competition” (you have to be competitive !), “More Productivity” and “More Innovation” makes it all seem so Logical, so Natural, so Obvious, etc. The words lend themselves to such a simple Linearity, to such a simple Cause and Effect Mechanism (hiding all the real non linearities due mostly to simple power relationships and power struggles really deciding what to do and how to do it and who to hire and how many to hire and such, nothing automatic here and no “Invisible Hand” of the market is ever really working, it is all POLITICS at its finest and most subtle), to such a simple, almost Common Sense description on “Why the Economy is Not Good”: subtly it constantly associates and connects all the problems of the economy to “Shortcomings” ,to “Something that Someone is Doing Wrong”, to someone “That is Not Up to It”, that is not “Competitive or Productive or Educated or Trained or Innovative Enough” etc. And that someone is always the workers (or students or government workers, etc.), always the weaker players of society that messed everything up since they are lazy, uneducated turds and such.
    And this lends itself directly and obviously to punish, fire, layoff those faulty of the shortcomings: workers and all the weaker players in an economy (pensioners, retired, poor, needing health care) etc.
    It is always, one way or another the workers fault or a country’s fault for not being Competitive, Productive, Innovative or Educated enough, so beat up Greece and Spain and such.
    But mostly, it is and will always be impossible to ever be “Educated enough” and “Competitive enough” and “Productive enough” to satisfy the Worldwide Economic Morality Police, so many workers and regions and nations will never b able to “Compete” against Silicon Valley or Germany or JAPAN or South Korea, you will never be able to build the new 3 billion transistor Microprocessor to “Compete against INTEL” and such or the next Audi A8 to “Compete against Germany” and such.
    Impossible targets, and then blame the victim and the victim blames himself and everyone blames the victim and wants to punish the victim especially all the government workers of Greece, that make, oh so much money (1,000 dollars a month, wow, such a high salary, go figure, now slashed to 700 dollars month, still too much though…) so go fire them all.
    And so the economy is doing bad because people are not Innovative enough, or Educated enough or Productive enough and so on, keep on brainwashing everyone worldwide with this huge boatload of BS.

  527. tegmark February 16, 2012 at 10:00 am #

    But mostly, it is and will always be impossible to ever be “Educated enough” and “Competitive enough” and “Productive enough” to satisfy the Worldwide Economic Morality Police, so many workers and regions and nations will never be able to “Compete” against Silicon Valley or Germany or JAPAN or South Korea, you will never be able to build the new 3 billion transistor Microprocessor to “Compete against INTEL” and such or the next Audi A8 to “Compete against Germany” and such.
    Impossible targets, and then blame the victim and the victim blames himself and everyone blames the victim and wants to punish the victim especially all the government workers of Greece, that make, oh so much money (1,000 dollars a month, wow, such a high salary, go figure, now slashed to 700 dollars month, still too much though…) so go fire them all.
    And so the economy is doing bad because people are not Innovative enough, or Educated enough or Productive enough and so on, keep on brainwashing everyone worldwide with this huge boatload of BS.

  528. 8man February 16, 2012 at 10:07 am #

    Also from:
    http://instantsingularity1.blogspot.com/2012/02/subtle-devices.html
    ATE MAN

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  529. k-dog February 16, 2012 at 11:36 am #

    E, You obviously have strong feelings about Fred but do you disagree with any of these facts he weaves together?

    • That typically migrants go north through Mexico by riding on the roofs of cargo trains. They frequently are maimed killed and robbed.
    • That several ways exist of crossing into the US. You can find a poorly guarded desert crossing and hope not to get lost and die of thirst hiding from the helicopters.
    • That companies love illegals. No benefits and they can’t complain without being deported. In a contest between money and patriotism, money always wins.
    • That the scourge of Mara Salvatrucha, is a product of Reagan’s romantic meddling of El Salvador.

    Maybe Fred just watched this and never left his Mexican home to find out what we here don’t know. It’s possible.

  530. Rhino February 16, 2012 at 11:49 am #

    Maybe black society doesn’t get off the fuck whitey treadmill anytime soon. I don’t know of anybody that can forecast how cultures/subcultures develop. From the point of view of 1960 would you have predicted Springer? Would it have been conceivable that we’d have such squalid stuff on the airwaves?
    The reason that I talk about learned behavior is that Vlad seems to discount that such a thing exists. He seems to think that the various types of dysfunction in Black communities is all Black genetic inferiority. I’m saying not so fast. You’re seeing serious dysfunction in White communities also.
    Is it genetic that American schoolkids lag behind kids in other industrialized countries? Or were the habits of sloth and indifference on the part of parents and teachers and the wider community towards academic achievement the product of complacency, the assumption that America can’t be beat?

  531. trippticket February 16, 2012 at 11:59 am #

    “DEAR GOD SPARE ME FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY CROWD.”
    Yeah, how retarded. Stupid sustainability. Let’s just all run over the cliff like lemmings instead, and see how that works out.
    Thanks for endorsement, fruitcake.

  532. mika. February 16, 2012 at 11:59 am #

    Pride, my ass! Maintaining WHITE PRIVILEGE, is more like it. But you don’t have the honesty to admit this, so you try to make VLAD into some kind of an oppressed underdog, when in fact he’s a privileged white pig living in a society designed for privileged white pigs.
    Everything that’s done in the US is done to disenfranchise non-Whites. You white fuckers are such callous swines and hypocrites it’s amazing how anybody can tolerate you traveling abroad without lynching you on the spot. It really is amazing.

  533. trippticket February 16, 2012 at 12:00 pm #

    ^the endorsement

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  534. old69 February 16, 2012 at 12:07 pm #

    How to Dismantle Ideologies
    The real question is why no one ever doubts or opposes the dominating Standard Economic Theory ? Why is there no real Oppositional Theory against it ? Because as soon as the reference system is set up, as soon as the words and concepts are pronounced, as soon as the invariants of the theory are declared, without anyone noticing it, you already lost any debate against them. As soon as words like Competition, Innovation and Productivity form the framework within which the debate must navigate, it already sets up a precisely and scientifically predetermined thought path or paths from which it is impossible to escape unless you completely negate and dismantle all of the terms of the debate. How words automatically set up thought processes from the outset. The reference system of the ideology is set up by the choice of words and concepts that pretend to be absolute and a given, not up for debate.
    But all attempts at creating oppositional theories have always been wrong, naive or too simple: such attempts are the hippies back to nature, resource scarcity, anti consumerism attempts and such. Or the good old marxism or communism theories and such, etc. Never really using the only tool available that could deconstruct and demolish the Standard Economic Theory: and namely Technology itself, the concepts of technology the standard theory uses so well to make believe how they are always right and have technology on their side, etc.
    Well, it is the other way around: technology is eliminating the need for work, is creating free wealth and this can easily be distributed. The reference system made up of the words “Competition” (as in you must fight, and everyone believes the economy can only be a fight and such), “Innovation” (you must invent something new when everything possible has already been invented, and then how many possible new valid inventions are conceivable anyways ?) “Productivity” must increase aka work more for less pay, etc. already sets up the complete ideology, there is nothing left to debate, the words have created an automatic thought process from which no one can ever escape or hope to win any debate. Hence the economists all approve of punishing Greece and similar.
    But don’t be fooled, it is just a giant, Iron Clad Ideology that has been taking everyone for a ride.

  535. trippticket February 16, 2012 at 12:21 pm #

    “You embrace it consciously – they never had the choice. Big difference. And we had to go thru these thousands of years of development to get to the place where we could see this choice and make it.”
    That’s absolutely true, and I don’t regret access to knowledge. But in the end it’s farming that brought us to the brink, not foraging. So whether it’s viewed as “noble savage worship” or not, the species longevity factor lies firmly in their camp. Therefore, we can surely exchange ideas between so-called “civilization” and so-called “savagery,” but that can’t even begin if you dismiss their contribution out of hand.

  536. k-dog February 16, 2012 at 12:25 pm #

    And on it goes.

  537. Rhino February 16, 2012 at 12:41 pm #

    “short Middle Eastern Farmers in great numbers overcame the tall godlike Cro-Magnon/Neanderthal Hybrids of Old Europe. We still haven’t recovered. Our ancestors had larger brains and heaver bones; smarter and more robust.” – Vlad
    In “great numbers”? I doubt that neolithic agriculture was able to support “great numbers”. But MAYBE numbers just great enough to outcompete hunter/gatherers. BTW if the allegedly superior Cro Magnon/Neanderthal hybrids were so superior ie “smarter” how did they get outcompeted?
    I read somewhere that modern Japanese are likely descended in large part from a few thousand farmers that crossed the water from Korea a few thousand years ago. Already existing in Japan was a hunting/fishing culture that had been there for about ten thousand years. They say it got pushed further and further north and exists today as the Ainu people. Maybe a version of what happened in Europe? But who can really say.
    Anyway, I don’t think knowledge of European pre-history is so complete that much of anything can be known with any comfort.
    I’ve read various accounts. Some say that 80% of European ancestry comes from European ice age hunters. I’ve read other stuff that claims claims otherwise.
    My sense of it (again, I’m no scientist) is that archeological remains of farming settlements are too sparse, human remains are too fragmentary, surviving DNA in those old bones is too rare to yet draw firm conclusions.
    Anybody know otherwise? Any geneticists in the house?

  538. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 1:01 pm #

    Fred? Fred who?
    ‘I am in a constant state of amazement on this site at the noble savage worship of even some of the most erudite, well-motivated souls herein.’
    Can you give us some quotes?
    [Well Motivated aint asoka]

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  539. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 1:08 pm #

    What beats hot water [running from a tap] electricity, cars, gas, Us money [for now].
    Long ago I lived out back in Hawaii with almost nothing. People would get staph infections from the humidity.
    You might enjoy:
    ‘WHITE WOMAN WITCH DOCTOR’ and ‘SASTUN’
    Amazon.com: Sastun: My Apprenticeship with a Maya Healer …
    The Amazon is so damp they were storing things in bags hung from trees.

  540. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 1:10 pm #

    ‘The civil rights act was passed in ’64.
    Things were supposed to get better for blacks.
    For the black underclass, things are worse.’
    Yes and no….If ‘be fruitful and multiply’ is the ultimate aim….I think US blacks have gone from 10M to 40M in 2 generations.

  541. messianicdruid February 16, 2012 at 1:10 pm #

    “Where the glory of God rests, the people have an advantage of revelation.
    So we see from biblical history that being a citizen of Israel or Judah, whether natural or foreign convert, carried an advantage that other nations did not enjoy. As long as those nations were obedient to the Covenant and served God with their hearts, they retained their advantage. But when they failed to abide by the vow of that Covenant (Ex. 19:8), they lost the advantage. Even as the Covenant was conditional upon obedience, so also was their advantage.”
    E Pluribus Unum – from many one – only works using the same software.

  542. trippticket February 16, 2012 at 1:11 pm #

    Despite your counter-rhetoric, you still view the situation through the neoclassical lens of supply and demand economics. Otherwise you wouldn’t be able to arrive at your “unlimited resources” conclusion. Unfortunately, energy doesn’t play the supply and demand game very well.
    Example: a planeful of economists has to do an emergency crash landing on the Pacific near a desert island. The island is nothing but rock and sand, and a few salt-tolerant grasses – no water, no trees, nothing. As the economists drag themselves out of the surf, the demand for food, water, and shelter is extremely high, but, despite the fact that each economist just so happens to have a million dollars cash in their briefcase, no amount of demand can make the supply of their basic needs start flowing. Not until or unless a ship comes along with the supplies, or takes them to a place that has what they want. – related from “The Wealth of Nature,” by John Michael Greer
    It’s pretty easy to destroy the infallibility of “the invisible hand” with a pretty simple example. Where your philosophy really goes astray is in your parallel belief that because technology and explosive growth have been lighting up our reality for the past three centuries, that they can continue indefinitely. But that explosion of the current technostructure was a product of fossil energy exploitation, not the cause of it, and those energy supplies have fairly defined boundaries. Not only that, but the low hanging fruit has already been used up. That’s just the way energy functions. Only a fool would go after the harder-to-get-to energy before taking the easy stuff, and despite what you and I both think about the dominant paradigm, these folks are not foolish. Every barrel of oil delivered to the market from now on will require more energy to deliver than the barrel before it.
    Therefore the EROI is declining, and will continue to decline indefinitely, more or less, and that is the essence of energy descent. Peak oil represented the beginning of permanent contraction, and so yes, the end of growth.
    What’s more, biological systems always max out their energy supplies, so we’ve had the misfortune to come to know the very peak of affluence and leisure as “normal.” When access to energy begins to decline, people naturally fight to maintain their perception of “normality,” to the detriment of anything that might get in the way of that end. You can see plenty of examples of this in Washington these days, as the funding for various programs is being fought over with increasing vitriol.
    So, in effect, when your budget is constantly being hacked away, you don’t start setting aside large chunks of money to explore new technologies, or new business ventures. You protect the things you know as normal, in order of their importance to you. Nothing that you talk about doing is part of our normal experience of the world, and therefore won’t be pursued.
    And while I agree that there is plenty of detrimental resource hoarding going on among the world’s financial elite, the redistribution of that stockpile would still total less actual wealth than it did 5 years ago, and that would be less than it was 5 years before that. Largely because we insist on spending our money (which is just a representation of wealth, not wealth itself) on depreciating and maintenance-costly goods, like skyscrapers, instead of self-reproducing wealth, like forests and oceans.

  543. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 1:14 pm #

    The reds infiltrated the greens and gave the term ENVIRONMENTALISM a very bad connotation.
    The reds were more power hungry than us greens, as we just recycle and are passive hippies.
    So to get some ‘traction’ terms like ‘Sustainability’ [fold hands in prayer] or [gasp]
    Permaculture are in vogue.
    Environmentalism died like to dodo bird.
    The reds killed it.

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  544. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 1:24 pm #

    ‘They are killed and maimed’ [by who?]MS13?
    I did go to link…..found this:
    “I recommend The Other Side of Immigration with enthusiasm for a wide range of audiences, including community groups, higher education institutions, public schools, and policy makers.”
    – Scott Fletcher, Lewis & Clark College…
    THATS THE PLACE THAT JUST PUT UP A STATUE OF ‘YORK’
    THE MAGIC NEGRO WHO LEWIS AND CLARK HARDLY MENTIONED..LnC College is a place of Indoctrination..see the links at SBPDL BLOG.

  545. Rhino February 16, 2012 at 1:25 pm #

    Spare us this crap Mr 1%. The shit you said about American workers? This is hate.
    You haven’t yet explained to us something. Or maybe I missed it. You said that La Reconquista of the US southwest by Hispanics from south of the Rio Grande was “simple justice”. Explain to us then if La Reconquista of Palestine by Jews is “simple justice”. Is it “karma” for the Palestinians?
    After all, Jews are just another northern Arabian, Semitic tribe, right? Just going home, right? Simple justice, right?

  546. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 1:29 pm #

    Wow, five times before I disengaged.
    Really.
    “There is no limit to how many people we can love.”
    -asoka-
    “There is no limit to how many people we can love.”
    -asoka.-
    “There is no limit to how many people we can love.”
    -The Resident Impediment-
    “There is no limit to how many people we can love.”
    -The Repetitive Resident Impediment-
    “There is no limit to how many people we can love.”
    -TRRI-
    Thank you asoka., for conclusively demonstrating for CFN, once again, that Jean-Paul Sartre was correct when he said:
    “L’enfer, ‘est les autres,”

  547. trippticket February 16, 2012 at 1:30 pm #

    “Sastun: My Apprenticeship with a Maya Healer …”
    I’ve read it! Enjoyed it very much.
    But just a thought, no matter how much we enjoy the conveniences of modern civilization, if that level of affluence compromises the chances of survival for future generations, is it really worth it?
    I suppose the easiest response would be to claim that it’s not, which is of course the most popular answer.

  548. Vlad Krandz February 16, 2012 at 1:34 pm #

    Well the “vast” in relative to the “few” of course. I get the feeling you’re trying to misunderstand me. All I’m saying is that many can defeat a few – even if the few are better men man for man. And the evidence shows that the old ones were larger, stronger, and smarter. Europe’s Ice Ages had bred a very hearty breed indeed. And then things got easier and men with a better technology were able to move in as the climate changed. Now obviously, it wasn’t a complete genocide. Apart from the interbreeding, the hunter gatherers must have adopted the new ways when they saw the advantagees of it. So this is a little different from my usual racial stuff. But as Tripp says, such advantages tend to accelarate and lead downwards over time – and leave both the enviroment and man himself the lesser for it.
    Yes I had a Japanese Professor once who knew very little about the genocide of the Ainu at the hands of the ancient Japanese. It’s not taught over there.

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  549. Vlad Krandz February 16, 2012 at 1:43 pm #

    Bet her Maya Teachers had nothing but praise for their ancestors – with nary a thought about their destruction of the Environment.
    I met a Mexican Medicine Man – called himself an Aztec, and thought they were fucking great.
    Indians are some of the biggest bozos around. How many Species did they hunt to extinction?
    Again Diamond has the answer: “primitive” people vary tremendously. Their technology might be similar, but there are many other factors. On Easter Island, they lacked the wisdom to stop. On that small Island he talks about, they did. Easter Island, the Maya, the Aztecs – were all already too big to change evidently.
    Can we learn from some of these peoples? Of course, why not if they have knowledge in some areas such as herbalism or local agriculture. And I know alot of crop development was done in North America and New Guinea.

  550. trippticket February 16, 2012 at 1:47 pm #

    anti soak to vlad: “So to get some ‘traction’ terms like ‘Sustainability’ [fold hands in prayer] or [gasp] Permaculture are in vogue.”
    Yesss, masstah, I DID tweak their nipplesss and, and I gave them all a good sssolid noogie.

  551. Vlad Krandz February 16, 2012 at 1:49 pm #

    Yes the good guys often lose because they lack the passionate intensity of the victors. And if they have it, then they are always in danger of becoming the bad guys.
    The Indian Prophet Hiawatha came to the Iroquois centuries before the Whites arrived. He gathered them into a great alliance that guaranteed Peace between Tribes. The Ring of Peace grew bigger and bigger as more Tribes wanted in. But after Hiawatha had departed, the Iroquois began to demand that Tribes join. And they began to go to war to force Tribes to join. So the Ring of Peace became “Weapons of Peace”. And so it goes.

  552. Buck Stud February 16, 2012 at 1:50 pm #

    You make some great points, E. Just to add a couple of thoughts. American construction workers are often dismissed as not being as motivated and hard-working as their illegal Mexican immigrant competitors.But what is overlooked in this accusation/perception is the fact that American worker’s economic “eco-system” – house,car,health- care, etc – was calibrated to higher wages before the illegal workers (scabs?) usurped their economic way of life with the willing compliance of American employers along with Yo-Yo ideologues such as Asoka.
    Simply put, illegal workers have every reason and motivation to “work harder” coming from lands of poverty; Americans every reason to feel resentful and betrayed. After all, the current going wages simply don’t pay the bills for previous lifestyles now chained to debt default and bankruptcy court. And these are the economic victims Asoka claims to love by encouraging more of the same.

  553. trippticket February 16, 2012 at 1:52 pm #

    “Indians are some of the biggest bozos around. How many Species did they hunt to extinction?”
    Again, hunting a neighboring tribe to extinction is not the same thing as compromising the entire planet’s ecology. Not that same thing by a mile.
    Human are humans. Scale is what matters.

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  554. Vlad Krandz February 16, 2012 at 1:55 pm #

    I think he would admit all that. He says that some of the worst Mexians have come north. And he’s sympathetic to White Nationalists – he has spoken at American Renaissance’s annual conference.
    He’s married to a Mexican of course and he doesn’t admit the genetic aspects of IQ too much. But he knows Whites are getting a really bad deal – crushed from above and below.

  555. trippticket February 16, 2012 at 1:56 pm #

    And I’m not even saying that we’re more evil because of our scale; it just is what it is, it wasn’t purposeful. But that’s no excuse to keep on keeping on once you know better…

  556. Vlad Krandz February 16, 2012 at 1:58 pm #

    I was talking about animal species like the Wooly Mammoth, the horse, etc. These once lived in North America. The Indians did degenerate the environment significantly even in ancient times what to speak of the Maya and the Aztec.

  557. Rhino February 16, 2012 at 2:24 pm #

    I’m not trying to misunderstand anything. I’m putting forth another point of view. Also, I’m saying that knowledge of European pre-history is a work in progress and given the spans of time involved, the scarcity and degradation of material evidence because of the passage of time, I would be careful about making too many assertions about what happened way back.
    I would also be a bit careful about characterizing our forebears as “godlike” especially if ancient Sapiens was anything like modern Sapiens. Maybe like us they were a really nasty piece of work.

  558. Vlad Krandz February 16, 2012 at 2:32 pm #

    Scale matters – it is the biggest issue of our Times. But once things are downscaled and local again – there will still be raiding and war, just on a small, local scale.
    People are people? No Traditional person or tribe believes that. Morality matters – and people and tribes are good, evil, or somewhere in between. It’s not a function of technology.
    Albert Schweitzer’s Mission in the Congo saved a tribe from extinction: they were being eaten by the Fang, a savage new tribe that had recently fought its way into the area.
    Just so: you downscale joyfully and voluntarily. Others will do so grudginly and in misery. Thus the virtue of flowing with Tao is your’s and not their’s. Both your cohort and their’s will downscale, but there is a difference. They are going to be engraged for a long time – and thus very dangerous be they White, Black, Brown or whatever. Strong Christians will be better neighbors, believe me. And many are starting to prep – way ahead of secular liberals. Red necks without religion – yes, they may well become some of the most dangerous people around.

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  559. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 2:36 pm #

    – Concerning Fred –
    And BuckStud wrote a nice reply to E.
    And K-dog, your comments to E are good.
    This is an unusual “Fred” this week.
    The man’s a realist, about Mexico AND the US.
    And nowhere does he say that the US does not have the right to control OR that we should not control – incoming illegal immigration.
    Far from it, in fact:
    “Is massive immigration good for the US? I doubt it. Are all the illegals wonderful people? No. In the long run will there be a happy ending? I don’t know; to date there hasn’t been.”
    -Fred-
    Fred knows good and well there won’t be a happy ending. He has said as much in several of his other essays – which comprise a body of work worth consideration.
    And Vlad, I doubt very much that is the “worst” of Mexicans that “want” to come to the US. But – by the time potential illegals are desperate enough to:
    1.collect all that money in their home area, and
    2.then make it through the ordeals that Fred describes
    3.there is a Darwinian selection process operating that will select against the “nicer?” ones and select in favor of the “worst.”
    4. Then the illegals that go through all that, get to the US to make some money to send home, and
    5. STILL manage to attract the attention of US law enforcement through commission of a criminal offense that is NOT, NOT related to immigration status –
    6. After all this “self-selection,” we are likely to be looking at the worst of the best of them on US crime statistics.
    7. The best of the best of them probably had sense enough to go back home to help their families AT home – or
    8. they never left their desperate family who they could “barely feed” (quote from Fred) in the first place.
    If my kids were hungry like that – I would not leave with $2000 bucks in my pocket on a dangerous 2000 mile journey in the “hope?” that I could survive the journey and make enough money in El Norte to send a little money back home.
    There is no way I would do that!
    I’d take that $2000 and try to make a better life for my extended family near the place where I was born – or else we’d all die together while I tried to carve out that better life.

  560. Vlad Krandz February 16, 2012 at 2:40 pm #

    You may be right. I was engaging in a bit of hyperbole. I simply meant they seemed to have more capacity than modern man. But capacity isn’t morality. They may have been cannibals, etc. God like in the strictest sense requires morality – which is not inherited.
    Brain size correlate positively with IQ. And their brains were larger. Proof? No. But a strong indicator? Yes. And their bones were heaver, a sure sign of greater strength.

  561. mika. February 16, 2012 at 2:44 pm #

    If my kids were hungry like that – I would not leave with $2000 bucks in my pocket on a dangerous 2000 mile journey in the “hope?”
    ==
    Really? So what are you doing in America? Why aren’t youz back in Europe, where you came from.

  562. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 2:56 pm #

    “Maybe black society doesn’t get off the fuck whitey treadmill anytime soon. I don’t know of anybody that can forecast how cultures/subcultures develop. From the point of view of 1960 would you have predicted Springer? Would it have been conceivable that we’d have such squalid stuff on the airwaves?” -rhino-
    Rhino, I’ve seen a pretty good case made that it was the societal changes of the ’60’s, encapsulated in the Civil Rights Act – that started ALL of US society on the path to Jerry Springer.
    ===================
    And Rhino, if we take your idea that black society will NOT get off the “fuck whitey treadmill anytime soon.”
    And we add to this the observation that conditions in the “fuck whitey” black underclass are measurably much WORSE since 1980.
    And we add in Mika’s loving sentiments:
    “Everything that’s done in the US is done to disenfranchise non-Whites. You white fuckers are such callous swines and hypocrites it’s amazing how anybody can tolerate you traveling abroad without lynching you on the spot. It really is amazing.” -mika, discouraging tourism-
    And then we add in the idea that Tripp expresses so well – that energy descent is going to stop ANYTHING that looks like social welfare or affirmative action or anything else – sooner or later.
    And we have a big disaster brewing for the US.
    I know – let’s bring in another 1,000,000 LEGAL immigrants this year. Great idea? Not.

  563. hidayoph February 16, 2012 at 2:58 pm #

    never leave no matter how busy also have to look at cancer [Oh]

    never leave no matter how busy also have to look at cancer [Oh]
    never leave cancer
    * to my dear friends, we should carefully look at, *
    * no matter how busy have to look at Oh! * never leave the four major cancer
    ? ? restore organ function and the release of pressure

    cancer patients, as long as the spleen, liver, colon, kidney, four functional recovery, you can never leave.

    cancer, diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure. There are many cancer patients in the morning I gave them the referral when the discovered that high blood pressure, and blood pressure are now normal; originally determined to have cerebrovascular disease, and now drugs do not eat. Obviously, as long as the help of these organs slowly return to normal can from a variety of diseases of civilization, but it is not a single element.

    a tumor if the cancer is easy to handle, so we in medicine over the past made a big mistake, is to see only the tumor, and how I wanted to kill it, so it is with surgery to cut, to poison it with chemotherapy, with radiation to photo it, burn it, anyway, by all means to kill it like, then the more severe the more you use drugs, do the It is kill, cancer cells die, people die.

    This is our medicine made the biggest mistake, it is not a single, must be considered as a whole.

    Therefore, we must first restore the spleen, we must develop a habit of three meals of whole grains per day must be over 50% of the total diet, we must develop this habits.

    grains is red beans, soybeans, mung beans, barley, etc., these are the grains category, lotus is also very good, with this concept, the spleen is good, like the liver. Spleen is responsible for blood, one day there are two important time is midnight and noon. The rest of the time so you must rest.

    Now most of those who are bad liver, and why bad? Stay up late, eat fried things, bad temper, is the liver of the three killer. Liver oil, what you eat oil, oil wrap the whole liver, liver function completely lost, so we can not eat too much oil. Fat on the body no good. So when we feel physical discomfort when there is suffering, when we have to change ? ? behalf to protect your liver.

    more sleep the more tired ? ? warning signs of liver problems

    daily use of sleep time, spleen to collect blood, to the liver to detoxify, detoxification after the clean blood to the heart to the heart and then to the body, what is the purpose? Every place can be sent to nutrition, you can get healthy.

    Unfortunately, the modern human spleen has a lot of problems first, the spleen itself does not collect blood.
    only one way the most to support the spleen, most grains to support the spleen, but modern man is so bad why the spleen, body so sick? Because do not eat whole grains, eat hamburgers, fried chicken, steak, french fries, finally eat a little rice, and eat rice, so you must eat whole grains, raw grains, such as brown rice.

    But I remind you, because Singapore is a tropical climate, so cold and temperate climates not suitable for tropical grain to eat, especially note, such as oats, buckwheat , wheat, barley, sorghum, these are all cold temperate most of the product, of course, there are very few people can eat the body, but most are not suitable for eating, not this thing is not good.

    our best tropical places to eat what food? Brown rice, sweet potato, the world can; also barley, millet, which are more suitable for the climate here to eat. Throughout the diet above, once you can make adjustments to eat cereals, spleen function can be restored.

    colon bowel function recovery

    If you often feel tired, liver problems, you should rest a little earlier. Every morning, you feel very difficult on the toilet, the toilet like a war, fight with the toilet. Really pathetic! This mean?

    your body totally inadequate fiber intake, why the United States was so high proportion of colorectal cancer, colorectal cancer in China’s coastal areas have so many people in Singapore have all colorectal cancer The second cancer, usually found in the Mainland China, there is no colon cancer, because he is very smooth to the toilet every day, a sit down, pop Long, Long puff, puff Long! Each is like a banana, so beautiful! And arranged in neat rows. Not only that, I tell you, healthy people out of a diameter of about every two or three centimeters, and one out of a circle, still smoking, not only so, smell, and vanilla.

    One day, Billy suddenly very excitedly called me and said: I said: Because drugs are ranked out, you do not feel there is vanilla cow dung, cow dung stinks, but now, because cattle eat is a mess, there are cattle Da antibiotics, if you have difficulty on the toilet, what this means ? Source of all diseases, from your large intestine are not normal excretion began.

    you a good time if the large intestine, should not own every morning to wake up, wake up but by the large intestine motility. Bowel movements calling you, why? Because the 5-7 point is the large intestine of the most active time, so why do we tell cancer patients to 9:00 sleep, diabetes is most people to sleep before 11 o’clock, because your large intestine 6 am to 7 pm, when they will naturally creep , wake you up, squatting toilet has.
    ;
    eat several meals a few times on the row it, then you are on the toilet several times a day is enough? Remember, if four or five days on a toilet, called severe constipation; twenty-three sky a toilet, this is called moderate constipation; one day on a toilet, called mild constipation. What is the most healthy, most normal? That is, eat a few meals on the toilet several times, this is called health, and each sat down, three minutes to solve.

    you look at, neat rows of well, and rub toilet paper, no stool, clean. I think some people are very poor, dozens of toilet paper also does not wipe clean, so that people do not rub, washed with water directly enough. Because of a serious lack of fiber in his body. These drugs can not be properly discharged if the food into the body 12 hours, not discharged, will form toxins. Because the toxin is not discharged, we will absorb the large intestinal toxins, absorbed, back through the portal vein and liver to go bad! Losses caused by the liver, this problem is very serious. So, why is not good with colorectal liver is directly related, as long as the colon a smooth, well the liver, the immune system followed by recovery, but also to the heart’s blood is clean and what is not susceptible to disease.
    The kidney is the body’s metabolism, eliminate waste, an important detoxification organ, the body’s blood after the kidneys twenty times per hour, the blood through the kidneys filter metabolic waste into urine excreted . Renal dysfunction can cause back pain, edema, blood in uremia,Monster Beats Solo, hypertension, urinary tract infections, fatigue, insomnia, tinnitus, hair loss, blurred vision, slow reaction, depression, fear, or even insanity.

    into the body of any beverage, food, air and emotional stress are produced by toxins through the kidneys. If too many pollutants, resulting in kidney burden too heavy, short-term there may be obstruction, inflammation, long-term, there are stones, functional decline, blood is not clean, and other problems, the most serious to rely on artificial dialysis remove blood contamination, or will life-threatening.

    routine maintenance of kidney, Attention to health, to avoid damage to the kidneys is the best strategy. The major causes of kidney disorder caused by under:
    1. Eating too much high-protein animal foods, produce too much uric acid, so that the kidneys work too much.
    2. worked, too much pressure, there is no sufficient leisure.
    3. taking the medicine, such as anti-inflammatory painkillers, antibiotics and so on.
    4. environmental pollution: water, soil, air, noise.
    5. drinking alcohol, coffee, soft drinks, cold drinks too much.
    6. wet and cold weather.
    7. drinking water is not enough.
    To protect the kidneys more than is necessary to reduce the harm, drink plenty of water, eat (drink) berries such as strawberries, cranberries (cranberry cranberries), blueberries, covered basin (raspberry), watermelon, lemon and other fruit / juice. Vegetable protein intake, regular exercise, natural light diet, adequate rest, cheerful mood, avoid exposure to cold the waist, often hand-rub hot massage the waist, reaching Qiangshen effect.
    use lemon law Lemon Yang Shen, in particular, a lot of advantages to the kidneys, but can also strengthen the liver.
    A warm lemon juice maintenance kidney:
    a day after getting freshly squeezed lemon, add a cup of warm water 200c.c. reconcile (to add a little natural sea salt, taste more smooth easy to read), fasting drink slowly, you can clean the kidneys, but also through the urine.
    Second, the lemon juice kidney stones
    The 12 rows of fresh lemon juice (juice drink just before, are now pressing to drink), add reconcile the amount of warm water (can add a little natural sea salt, taste more smooth easy to read), drink seven days (one day a dozen lemon drink 7 days, the remaining food as usual). Small sand and gravel will be discharged by the urethra. When discharged, there will be stinging sensation; if large kidney stones, inflammation has caused the pain, you can drink cranberry juice anti-inflammatory pain.

    release pressure six Dafa
    many people who feel the life, work, relationships and even pressure, stress management properly, it will become a driving force, resulting in life of vitality. However, if the pressure persists, there is no way to get relief, if the pressure continues to increase, will make the adrenal glands, hormones there was a great problem, triggering the immune system diseases, the problem is very serious.

    most of the depression are a lot of pressure to a sudden, there is no way to transformation. Since the pressure in the encounter many difficulties, so we have to learn the difficult change.
    relationship with the greatest pressure is cancer, the first six months of cancer is almost always a major stressful event occurred. When you feel the pressure comes, to learn to relax. Breathing can affect the brain wave frequency, the frequency of brain waves can affect the heart rate, heart rate can also affect muscle tightness.

    That is, when you convert breathing, when tightly stretched muscles and emotional state will be changed, this approach has been stuttering treatment for patients.

    you can own practice rubbing his hands, his eyes tired, with this method is very effective and can help the person’s blood back into circulation, strength and energy can be quickly filled.

    The second effective way to relieve stress is exercise, so you shake or dance the whole person, and soon you can boost the spirit, the best there is regular exercise, because exercise is to relieve pressure on the most good way. In addition, daily walk barefoot on the grass, you can release the pressure, provided there is no life in it as a part of the law.

    third is sleep, sleep is a very good way. However, modern people sleep well.

    Taiwan Medical Association statistics, Taiwan has a day rely on sleeping pills to sleep 500 people, sleep is a major problem, do remember that night do not handle pressure in the chest, would be a nightmare. Do not pressure in the abdomen, under great pressure, the best way is on the side, palms facing up.
    better quality of sleep, stress release faster. But do not wait for the body and then go to bed very tired, very easy to sleep; tired sleep also, that the liver has been severely damaged.
    The fourth is the rest. Rest and sleep is different from the rest is original work, to convert a scene. For example, eating when not in the original desk to eat lunch or a company with as much as possible to prepare, do not go out to eat, a waste of time, and many of which are outside the cancer food. As compared with a lunch to save time, as I detox meal program eat, after eating, leaving 15 minutes to do and nothing to do at work. Remaining time to do abdominal breathing through breathing to relax.

    fifth diet, do not eat foods high pressure, irritating foods are high pressure food, more eating these foods, make sympathetic hyperactivity, sometimes All the functions to stimulate the body on alert state.
    ;
    What is a high-pressure food? Cola, soft drinks, coffee, tea, alcohol, cigarettes, dairy products and meat, all of the meat, especially after the oil pressure processing of meat is the largest. What foods will make happy? The most important food, vegetables, fruits, whole grains. Diet can reduce the pressure on the important thing is water.

    water can reduce stress, drink good water pressure can be released. (World Health Organization found that 80% of the world’s diseases related to unclean water has a direct relationship).

    sixth release of pressure is the sun. Treatment effect with daylight. Many depressed patients do not love the sun, usually more than the sun, the body’s antibodies will increase.

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  564. mika. February 16, 2012 at 3:01 pm #

    And we have a big disaster brewing for the US.
    ==
    Not if you go back to Europe, where you belong.

  565. Vlad Krandz February 16, 2012 at 3:01 pm #

    His plea for respect is fine. Your point is true also: hardship creates hard people. My point was about the drug gangs and Mexican Mafias moving North and I’ll stick by it.
    It all converges though: the second generation goes to school, learns English, become politicized and enraged at what their parents “had” to go through. And begins to agitate for having their own Country or joining with Mexico.
    I saw a show on TV about some Mexican workers who were being exploited – showed an 11 year old girl who was sick but still working in the fields with her parents. It happens. But now some come and already know the ropes: the pregnant women who come and dump their baby on US soil. They don’t have to work hard – except to keep having more.
    Both of you are right though – it’s not going to end well for any of us.

  566. Vlad Krandz February 16, 2012 at 3:05 pm #

    Not bad for a Liberal, not bad at all. You’ve developed some real clarity – more than Mr Kunstler since he’s terribly shy about the immigration madness.

  567. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 3:10 pm #

    “Really? So what are you doing in America? Why aren’t youz back in Europe, where you came from.”
    -mika-
    That beats the heck out of me sometimes, Mika.
    But, until VERY recently, no one emigrated away from his family hoping to send money back by Western Union wire transfer from the local Walmart. That’s a luxury of modern life that my forebears didn’t have. Either they took the whole family with them – or they left planning to never see that family again. That’s just the way it was.
    Did you actually WATCH that link on the Other Side of Immigration? There’s all this abandoned farmland in Mexico – because the best of their society has the option to flee to the US. And I’ve read – I think it was in the book “Fast Food Nation” – how Mexican emigres come back home and enjoy lording their success and their American dollars over their friends who were too chicken to go North.
    So we see that greed, acquisitiveness, and the desires produced by American Free Market Capitalism in the local Mexican population –
    have triumphed over everyone’s best interest.

  568. ozone February 16, 2012 at 3:14 pm #

    Q.,
    M’man, you are extremely dense/blinkered sometimes.
    Context IS useful.

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  569. mika. February 16, 2012 at 3:16 pm #

    That beats the heck out of me sometimes, Mika.
    ==
    That’s not an satisfactory reply. You need to stop talking from two sides of your mouth, pack up and go home back to Europe.

  570. mika. February 16, 2012 at 3:16 pm #

    not a satisfactory reply

  571. ozone February 16, 2012 at 3:24 pm #

    Always welcome and USEFUL.
    Thanks Tripp.

  572. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 3:32 pm #

    “That’s not an satisfactory reply. You need to stop talking from two sides of your mouth, pack up and go home back to Europe.”
    -mika?, mutated into asoka. overnight?-
    How many time are you going to tell me that Mika?
    =====================
    200 years is a long time. My family connections in Europe are too frayed to rebuild.
    But if I were Mexican, and my wife and kids were still down there (as suggested in the Fred on Everything that started this discussion), then my brown ass would be on the first truck heading back home.

  573. ozone February 16, 2012 at 3:40 pm #

    Don’t be so certain about the entrenched status of the “L’il Hitlers”. I happen to live in the same state as yourself, and ’round h’yar a relaxed attitude from the revenoo-ers is an asset beyond price. Push too hard and you get plenty of nuthin’ and an acid recalcitrance. I do not know why those who live in metropolitan areas knuckle under to [some] outrageous demands from their “protectors”. (Safety codes have their reasons and purposes, but sometimes you just gotta let stupid people get on with the accidental deaths that await their hubristic blunderings.)

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  574. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 3:43 pm #

    Are you having a bad day?
    You are usually more placid.

  575. ozone February 16, 2012 at 3:44 pm #

    Lou,
    Another country heard from…. ;o)
    Thanks for the parallax view.

  576. mika. February 16, 2012 at 3:46 pm #

    200 years is a long time. My family connections in Europe are too frayed to rebuild.
    ==
    It’s an arbitrary number. It could have been 50 years, 20 years, 2 years, whatever. Youz made the trip to America having no family connections there, youz can make the trip back. But you wont. Because you’re a bunch of hypocrites and thieving swine. And the rules and standards you like to apply on others, you refuse to apply on yourselves. This behavior is the embodiment of what you are as individuals and as a group. Tell me I’m wrong.

  577. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 3:46 pm #

    In 2 words ‘Santa Barbara’.
    The Carpenters, gardeners etc have gone from white or Japanese to brown.

  578. ozone February 16, 2012 at 3:57 pm #

    Great googely-moogely!
    auntie-soaky was a TEACHER!
    Put THAT in your poop-chute and ruminate…
    “We don’ neeed no steenking stan’dar’s!”

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  579. Qshtik February 16, 2012 at 4:18 pm #

    Are you having a bad day?
    You are usually more placid.
    – AS to Tripp
    ==============
    Or, as my wife said to me recently:
    Are you having a good day?
    You are usually more flaccid. ;o)

  580. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 4:31 pm #

    -mika?, mutated into asoka. overnight?-
    ==============
    It is mika, P2C. He is standing up to you and telling you how much of a hypocrite you are on immigration.
    And you dare invoke my name, implying that anyone who challenges you is an impediment.
    Pack your bags and emigrate back to Europe.

  581. Qshtik February 16, 2012 at 4:43 pm #

    American employers along with Yo-Yo ideologues such as Asoka. – Buck to E
    ============
    Buck, thanks for using this largely forgotten insult. It’s refreshing. The tried and true, Asshole, Moron, Fucktard and Jerk-off, will always be available but they have become a bit shopworn here through overuse.
    And there is more nuance too. I think of a Yo-Yo as an Asshole who additionally is not playing with a full deck.

  582. Buck Stud February 16, 2012 at 4:52 pm #

    “In 2 words ‘Santa Barbara’.
    The Carpenters, gardeners etc have gone from white or Japanese to brown.”
    That’s too simple of an observation, IMO. I say that because it also implies a generational evolution from blue-collar to white-collar, which is also certainly the case. But I was specifically addressing the perception of American construction workers as inferior/lazy in contrast to illegal immigrants escaping wretched poverty. A perception which often fails to consider the pre-existing financial situation of American workers before the arrival of the wage undercutting illegal immigrant workers. In truth, how motivated is an American worker going to be if that which formerly sustained them is now being performed by “hard workers” at lower wages? Wages that now fail to cover a regrettable past participation in consumer society and whose economic spider web has not entangled the illegal immigrant worker – yet.
    But soon enough it will: automation and even cheaper labor will provide the illegal immigrant workers of today with a bedroom view of the angst American construction workers currently endure. And to rub a bit of salt into their wounds, they will be termed lazy and inferior workers.

  583. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 4:54 pm #

    If you are going to use the word “Yo-Yo,” you should at least know what it means and use it correctly. You are mangling it.

    A young (typically white) male from suburbia that comes from a nice middle class family type environment and upbringing that dresses and acts like as though they are “hardcore” from the streets of South Central L.A. or Harlem. Fully versed in Ebonics, they most often use the word “Yo” to begin any sentence or greeting.
    “I pulled up to a red light beside a bunch of Yo Yo’s in their Mom’s Toyota Camry blasting some Tupac; I laughed.”

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  584. wagelaborer February 16, 2012 at 5:03 pm #

    Yeah, my husband and I both come from the British Isles.
    I point out to him that 800 years ago there weren’t that many people there. And that we have thousands of ancestors by that time.
    I think that we’re related.
    And one of the doctors I work with came from Northern England, which is where my Dad was born.
    I told him my theory, and now we call each other “cuz”.

  585. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 5:07 pm #

    Wages that now fail to cover a regrettable past participation in consumer society and whose economic spider web has not entangled the illegal immigrant worker – yet. But soon enough it will: automation and even cheaper labor will provide the illegal immigrant workers of today with a bedroom view of the angst American construction workers currently endure.

    This is not correct, at least from my forty years of observing immigrant behavior. Immigrants who come for employment don’t want to be here. They don’t enjoy the denigration, the climate en el norte, or the language. They want to be with their families in their home country. And they return as soon as the plot of land and casita are paid for in the home country.
    Instead of buying all the fancy toys American construction workers did not resist buying, immigrants are sending money home, by the $Billions$, home where they intend to return.
    If we paid them living wages, they would leave sooner, but we are not that humane.

  586. wagelaborer February 16, 2012 at 5:07 pm #

    If I have Viking or German blood, it’s because my ancestors were raped by the invaders.
    Hard to feel pride in that.

  587. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 5:14 pm #

    “It’s an arbitrary number. It could have been 50 years, 20 years, 2 years, whatever.”
    -mika-
    Mika, there are some Muslims in the Middle East who would like to make that term be anything SHORTER than 64 years, this coming May 14th. So I’d be careful with demands that others move on your command – were I you.
    Moving on –
    ==============
    “Tell me I’m wrong.” -mika-
    Mika, the one thing that is abundantly clear to anyone who has ever read any of your words on CFN is that neither you, nor anyone associated with you, has ever been wrong, not even once.
    And I was looking into moving my family back to the UK, where most of us originated 200+ years ago.
    I was doing OK obtaining approvals until I contacted the CIA.
    They put me in touch with the Vatican.
    They won’t approve the move. ;0(

  588. wagelaborer February 16, 2012 at 5:15 pm #

    Did you see that the Colbert Report was suspended?
    That talk about PACs must pissed off some powerful entity.

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  589. wagelaborer February 16, 2012 at 5:17 pm #

    Good one, Mika.

  590. Eleuthero February 16, 2012 at 5:20 pm #

    Wage said:
    If I have Viking or German blood, it’s because my ancestors were raped by the invaders.
    Hard to feel pride in that.
    ************************************************************
    That’s irrelevant to my point. Besides, your point starts with the word “if”. My point is that if you’re merely Dutch or Polish or German or Danish or French and you decided to make, say, August, “Dutch Pride Month” and you made the effort to get this in the mainstream media, you’d be made to feel like you’re the KKK. That’s current reality about being NOT a “person of color”.
    The idea that white ethnic groups like those mentioned above must mute their own pride in their ancestry to the point that it must never be heard aloud is not only an absurdity but it shows how far reverse racism has gone.
    E.

  591. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 5:24 pm #

    “And you dare invoke my name, implying that anyone who challenges you is an impediment.”
    -asoka., whining-
    A.., I invoked your name because Mika had expressed the same exact thought 3 or 4 times – as though repeating the words over and over would make them somehow become relevant to the conversation.
    Mika is usually pretty straightforward. I would never call him an impediment. That term is inappropriate for Mika, yet perfect for you.
    “Hell is other people.”
    -JP Sartre, made manifest by asoka.-

  592. lbendet February 16, 2012 at 5:25 pm #

    Wage,
    Wow!!
    Thanks for calling my attention to the Colbert show.
    Of course, they won’t say why he’s off till next week, but I’m sure he did piss people off. He took the Pacs thing to the extreme only it is extreme in reality.
    What a bunch of corporate commies.
    Ratigan was taken off the air for some time because he kept calling this system Corporate Communism every day. When he got back on, I noticed he rarely used that terminology.

  593. Qshtik February 16, 2012 at 5:32 pm #

    Excellent exposition Tripp… not that it will change Old69’s thinking one iota.

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  594. Eleuthero February 16, 2012 at 5:34 pm #

    K. said:
    That typically migrants go north through Mexico by riding on the roofs of cargo trains. They frequently are maimed killed and robbed.
    That several ways exist of crossing into the US. You can find a poorly guarded desert crossing and hope not to get lost and die of thirst hiding from the helicopters.
    That companies love illegals. No benefits and they can’t complain without being deported. In a contest between money and patriotism, money always wins.
    **************************************************************
    I do not contest Fred’s melodrama about the details of the perils of Mexicans crossing into the country. However, the dishonesty in his reportage is that he IMPLIES that EVERY Mexican faces such a close call with death upon crossing the border. That’s just absolute bullshit. I’ve personally seen footage of them simply, quietly, and safely crawl under a fence with no opposition whatsoever.
    In the late 1940s when tons of Poles moved into Chicago, no one melodramatized the language barrier that they had to overcome and they were not just handed drivers licenses and credit cards and treated BETTER than people who’d lived here their whole lives. They had to struggle, adapt, and thrive. And the DID. So did all of the Swedes that went to Minnesota, the Irish that went to Boston, and the Germans that went to places like Medford, Oregon.
    Furthermore, when a Pole or Swede or German achieved something later on, they didn’t get lionized for achieving despite their ethnic minority status. The were lionized for BEING GREAT AMERICANS. They wouldn’t wave Polish or Swedish or German flags at American parades.
    Fred is, no doubt, correct that SOME Mexicans faced the tortures of the damned getting into the USA. But however they arrived, once they did arrive in large numbers they have not been a fabulous addition to our culture when one looks at the MACRO statistics on crime and educational achievement.
    Fred’s dissimulated rant is disingenous because it implies that ALL illegal entries are on a razor’s edge of danger and that these are an unsung fabulous people. Really? When one looks at the history of Mexico one sees a very sorry history with almost no aesthetics or scientific contributions to modern life.
    E.

  595. wagelaborer February 16, 2012 at 5:35 pm #

    The world economies may be intertwined and interlinked, but they are not a part of Gaia, except in the destruction-for-profit part.
    Imperialist capitalism is a plague upon the Earth, and the Earth will not take revenge if the credit deriviative default swaps bring it down.
    It’s a bit bizarre to think such a thing, actually.
    Isn’t this the guy that didn’t like the plot of Avatar, where the planet took revenge on the mining operations that were destroying it? Yet, he thinks that our planet will respond to the Dow Jones Industrial Average dropping?

  596. Eleuthero February 16, 2012 at 5:42 pm #

    P2C said that Fred said:
    “Is massive immigration good for the US? I doubt it. Are all the illegals wonderful people? No. In the long run will there be a happy ending? I don’t know; to date there hasn’t been.”
    *************************************************************
    Yes, but Fred does this as almost an afterthought after screeching about how hard they work and the perils they face upon entry. And that afterthought seems disingenuous after he seems to imply that they are meek kittens in a surrealistically horrific world. Most of ’em crawl under a fence through a tunnel and don’t face the Grim Reaper like Fred seems to imply.
    When they get here, we hand them driver’s licenses, credit cards, the front of the line for emergency medical care, etc. … while millions upon millions of American families find their living situation deteriorating rapidly with not a sign of a handout anywhere down the line.
    E.
    E.

  597. Qshtik February 16, 2012 at 5:43 pm #

    If we paid them living wages, they would leave sooner
    =============
    As Tootsie used to say, “What is this, opposite day?”

  598. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 5:48 pm #

    I expressed the same thought several times because you stupidly tried, several times, to link it to immigration and peak oil, when the thought has absolutely nothing to do with fossil fuels.
    It is a simple undeniable truth:
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

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  599. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 5:51 pm #

    E,
    Couple of thoughts that may be relevant for you.
    You just retired from a long career as a college instructor in IT, as I recall.
    I retired out of a long career, that I will never divulge on CFN. But, like yours, my career involved constant contact with the public AND and enforced sort of political correctness/multiculturalism.
    I did not know how much 30+ years of enforced political correctness and public contact had affected me. The infection went clear into my bones, to invoke a metaphor.
    I continue to be surprised by CFN – for example by the naked envy/hate of asoka., or the Complete and Arrogant Inerrant Nature of Met.
    I knew such people existed, in an abstract sort of way, I suppose. But when I encountered them in my public life – I was required by my duties to impose a set of Politically Correct “goggles” on my personal views.
    The goggles are off, now.
    And the view is ugly, sometimes.
    =====================
    And regarding Fred – don’t be too quick to judge the man. Read some more of his work. You happened to catch him on a bad week.

  600. Eleuthero February 16, 2012 at 5:56 pm #

    Mika said:
    Everything that’s done in the US is done to disenfranchise non-Whites. You white fuckers are such callous swines and hypocrites it’s amazing how anybody can tolerate you traveling abroad without lynching you on the spot. It really is amazing.
    ***********************************************************
    And Jews like you, while pretending to be in favor of turning the world into a Rainbow Coalition, are the most inbred of any ethnic group in the USA. I spent a year, in 1974, at Washington University in St. Louis, a school whose student body is around 70% Jewish. All the dating action I got was off campus because the girls were afraid of their family’s reaction to going out with a “Goy Boy”.
    Jews might be THE most racist ethnicity in the world. Don’t you go fucking telling me how us “white fuckers” are callous swines. While Protestants married Catholics and vice versa long, long ago, the most ethnically incestuous tribe in the USA might well be Jews. “God’s chosen people” sit back free from all scrutiny because we cower before Elie Wiesel’s annual laying on of his annual guilt-trip.
    E.

  601. wagelaborer February 16, 2012 at 5:56 pm #

    All the immigrants I have known, including my Grandma, don’t intend to stay in the US.
    The intent is to make a boatload of money, and then go live the high life in the Old Country.
    But while they are here, they make a life for themselves, and their kids become Americans, and they just never get around to going back home.
    Except for now, when some are returning.
    It’s smart to leave a sinking ship. I’d do it, but no other country wants me.

  602. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 5:57 pm #

    Here we go again, CFN!
    “There is no limit to how many people we can love.”
    -The Repetitive Resident Impediment-
    “Hell is other people.”
    -Jean Paul Sartre-
    ==============================
    Asoka – these two positions are both valid.
    And these two positions balance each other.
    Let it drop, why don’t you?
    Never mind – you can’t let anything drop.
    Sorry, CFN.

  603. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 5:58 pm #

    When they get here, we hand them driver’s licenses, credit cards, the front of the line for emergency medical care, etc.
    You are doing a great of job of building up your racist cred, E.
    Don’t let facts get in your way.
    Many states, including Maryland, Michigan, Oregon, Wisconsin and Hawaii, have repealed laws enabling illegal immigrants to acquire licenses.
    The undocumented do not go away. The only consequence of those state policies is you have more unlicensed, uninsured drivers on the road because by and large, public transportation is not as convenient as it is in other parts of the world.

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  604. Eleuthero February 16, 2012 at 6:02 pm #

    Thanks, P2C, for your admission that you, too, had to go through the Orwellian ethnic indoctrination by working in the public sector.
    In California, it’s unbearable. Even liberal professors at my school would joke about a certain candidate: “Oh, let’s see … she’s a mixed race, Latina lesbian. The other candidates might as well just give up right now. She hit the trifecta”.
    This is no melodrama. It was a running joke for the entire 2.2 DECADES that I worked for this school. It’s also forming the basis, now that I’ve had half a year to rest and reflect, for my possible exit from California. The climate just ain’t enough any more. It’s all high tech, money, and balkanization.
    E.

  605. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 6:05 pm #

    No, P2C, I will not let it drop because you will not let it drop. Sorry, CFN.
    I am being very clear and direct. I want you to let this simple statement stand, and I want you to take E.’s advice regarding my posts: SILENCE.
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  606. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 6:08 pm #

    for my possible exit from California. The climate just ain’t enough any more.
    We don’t need any racists in the Southwest. I hope you are considering some other region of the country.

  607. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 6:13 pm #

    “There is no limit to how many people we can love.”
    -the resident impediment, demanding SILENCE!-
    “Hell is other people.”
    -asoka.-
    The circle is complete.

  608. Qshtik February 16, 2012 at 6:14 pm #

    Fred got laid in Mexico and wherever Fred got a good lay is a great place to Fred.
    ==================
    Sounds logical to me.

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  609. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 6:22 pm #

    The Mutt Romney Blues
    http://youtu.be/Ct3BFR6GwFY
    Mitt Romney’s dog sings of his experience.

  610. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 6:25 pm #

    P2C, let it drop. E. said the best way to deal with Asoka is SILENCE.
    All you have to do is let this statement stand:
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.
    You cannot provide any argument against it. Sartre is not relevant. It is possible to love hateful people. Jesus said “Love your enemies”
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  611. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 6:34 pm #

    “There is no limit to how many people we can love.”
    -beatific, Buddhist asoka.multitude-
    “You cannot provide any argument against it.”
    -pedantic, insistent asoka.multitude-
    “All you have to do is let this statement stand”
    -cranky, Gestapo asoka.multitude-
    —————
    “Hell is other people.”
    -wise multitudes-

  612. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 6:41 pm #

    E. made a good suggestion, but I guess you are not in agreement with E.
    If we keep this up, comments could reach 2,000 this week.
    For the sake of everyone else on CFN, please, P2C, pretty please, stop being a RI, let this statement stand without any editorial comment from you:
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  613. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 7:10 pm #

    “please, P2C, pretty please,…let this statement stand without any editorial comment from you”
    -pleading asoka.multitude, attempting negotiation-
    A.., I believe the statement, “There is no limit to how many people we can love,” is something you pulled out of your *ss last night, that is simply indefensible.
    But, since you want to keep going off down this road – what is it worth to you, for me to let the statement stand unchallenged?

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  614. mika. February 16, 2012 at 7:15 pm #

    I spent a year, in 1974, at Washington University in St. Louis,.. [.. blah, blah, blah].
    ==
    You’re talking out of your racist ass, per usual. When you show me the numbers, then we can talk. But the numbers are exactly in contradiction to your assertion. Not only the numbers in the US, but the numbers in Israel too. So really, your lame attempt at deflection amounts to yet another nazi vlad fart. But we always knew this about you, didn’t we. Yes, we did. Yes, we did.

  615. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 7:19 pm #

    There will be no negotiation. This is the week that will break CFN records for the number of posts because you cannot let this statement stand without replying:
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  616. trippticket February 16, 2012 at 7:21 pm #

    “not that it will change Old69’s thinking one iota.”
    Yeah, I know, but it felt good to rattle off a lengthy post against willful illogic.
    Thanks for the props.

  617. trippticket February 16, 2012 at 7:26 pm #

    I don’t think the regulars around here know that you sound just like Sam Elliot. I can’t argue with someone who sounds like Sam Elliot.

  618. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 7:30 pm #

    “There is no limit to how many people we can love.”
    -the adamant impediment-
    It’s a stupid statement, a..
    There are biological limits to love.
    There are spiritual limits to love.
    You’ve already invoked Jesus’ name, as though he loved those money changers, and that fig tree.
    It’s just an indefensible statement.
    =====================
    Now, go ahead and attempt to defend the indefensible.

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  619. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 7:36 pm #

    “Beef, it’s what’s for dinner.”
    -sam elliot-

  620. mika. February 16, 2012 at 7:39 pm #

    Mika, there are some Muslims in the Middle East who would like to make that term be anything SHORTER than 64 years, this coming May 14th.
    ==
    And? That’s supposed to mean something to me?

  621. lbendet February 16, 2012 at 7:40 pm #

    Wage:
    Correction on Stephen Colbert:
    According to the Huffington Post, meanwhile, it’s the family matriarch, Colbert’s 91-year-old mother, Lorna, who is “seriously ill.”
    RE: my earlier comment
    —Never mind!(G.R.)

  622. mika. February 16, 2012 at 7:42 pm #

    I was doing OK obtaining approvals until I contacted the CIA.
    ==
    You don’t contact the CIA, the CIA contacts you.

  623. Buck Stud February 16, 2012 at 7:49 pm #

    Yes,I have heard that sentiment many times from my Mexican friends, It’s a distant cousin variation of ” I’m going to go live in the tropics when I get enough money” type of sentiment. But enough is usually never enough, no matter the color of skin or country of orgin. Moreover, virtually all of my Mexican friends who have expressed this sentiment are still here, tolerating cold winters no less.
    The fly in the ointment for a return home to Mexico is usually the kids: schools, friends, emotional investments – parents usually do what they think is best for their kids and kids typically are the ones making the demands – same as it ever was. And they put steel in their demands by having kids themselves, further cementing ties to the USA and their new family by marriage who, by the way, just might have no intention whatsoever of ever returning home to Mexico. So they stay; living apart from the grand kids just isn’t worth a return home to Mexico. And it’s not hard to imagine a young urban Latino militating and rebelling against the prospect of returning home to the Mexican countryside.
    Beyond all that, Mexicans who return home often have a financial bulls eye on their back, especially those who engage in ostentatious displays of newly gathered wealth.
    So yes, I have heard the ‘rather be in Mexico’ lament many times. Perhaps you could provide some stats as to what percentage stays or returns?

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  624. mika. February 16, 2012 at 7:52 pm #

    The climate just ain’t enough any more. It’s all high tech, money, and balkanization.
    ==
    The gated white suburbia ghettos are getting harder and harder to maintain. Best that you pack up and move back to white Europe.

  625. Pucker February 16, 2012 at 8:05 pm #

    Why does this company think that American women need Kelvar to protect their crotches?
    Isn’t Kelvar fabric used in racing tires and body armor?
    http://www.gussetjeans.com/defender_inside_out/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevlar

  626. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 8:16 pm #

    There are spiritual limits to love.
    ==============
    Please explain the spiritual limits to love.
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  627. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 8:33 pm #

    Yeah, E., I agree with Mika. It is best that you pack up and move back to white Europe. You are not happy here, seeing as how the USA has so much diversity and multiculturalism. You’ll feel better in white Europe. Maybe you can join a neo-nazi group there.

  628. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 8:44 pm #

    “There is no limit to how many people we can love.”
    -asoka.-
    Of course there is, asoka..
    Even love has limits. And look, everybody, asoka. made it into the Old Testament, Proverbs 6:19.
    “a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension….”
    -Proverbs, in reference to those who impede-
    There is a limit to how many people we can love.

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  629. BeantownBill February 16, 2012 at 8:45 pm #

    O3, maybe it’s more relaxed out in the country, but heah in the big city, municipal inspectors can be very nasty, with no provocation from the property owner. Not saying everyone of them is like that, but many must have rotten lives and wake up every day just plain ornery.

  630. gwdww562 February 16, 2012 at 9:01 pm #

    ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  631. DeeJones February 16, 2012 at 9:07 pm #

    Geez, you know, some of the commentary was getting pretty good, leaving out Flads racists crap, gee, going back to the Stone age, eh? Really digging deep.
    But now it degenerates to a silly thing between A & P2C.
    Oh, and lets not forget Mica, gee, what asylum is he logging in from? Not the same as Old69 I hope.
    Tripp, you are the MAN, dude.
    Say, are you trying growing hydroponic? Its great here, you can get this gigantic bamboo and use it horizontally in racks drilling 4″ holes in it for the plants. Of course there you might try PVC instead.
    Keep on keeping on….
    Dee

  632. progress2conserve February 16, 2012 at 9:22 pm #

    Always remember, Dee, things could get worse.
    ?????????A?P2C????
    ??????????????????
    —————–
    Speaking of Tripp –
    Tripp, did you look at that “The Other Side of Immigration” video clip posted earlier.
    All of those beautiful fields in Mexico are going empty because – according to the video – all the Mexicans went North chasing Consumerist Nirvana for themselves and their families. .
    I’ll bet those fields are a whole lot cheaper than rocky North Georgia mountain land is.
    And the climate is better for agriculture.
    Water table’s probably not as deep, either.
    There’s some delicious irony here somewhere.
    And probably some proof that people will never be happy, even if there is no limit to the number of people they love.
    While Mika and asoka.. think all will be well if E and I will simply emigrate back to Europe.
    James Howard Kunstler did choose a brilliant name for this place, didn’t he.

  633. trippticket February 16, 2012 at 9:23 pm #

    There is no limit to how much beef you can eat.

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  634. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 9:41 pm #

    ‘greed, acquisitiveness, and the desires produced by American Free Market Capitalism’
    OK…’greed, acquisitiveness, and desires’ ARE UNIVERSAL! They are not ‘produced by American Free Market Capitalism’ end quote.
    [You are usually rational.]

  635. BeantownBill February 16, 2012 at 9:45 pm #

    “Nyah, Nyah, my father can beat up your father”.
    Jews are smarter than everyone else. Everyone else are smarter than Blacks, who are lazy, but not as lazy as Mexicans, who are over running America with 2 billion of them, and who are at least Christians, which is more than we can say about them towelheads. Rednecks love their cornpone and NASCAR, but that’s because they all married their cousins, which is kinda like the Aussie abos, who were also cannibals. And 60,000 years ago the dumb-ass Neanderthals raped all these cro-magnons and their offspring invented the wheel, but they were too stupid to speak a language, they just made different kinds of grunts. And 5000 years ago the aliens helped the Egyptian make the pyramids, and together, thru the ages, they started a secret society that ended up in 1953 plotting the construction and then the demolition of the World Trade Center, and now the world’s gonna end because we’re invading the middle east and Iran will Nuke us with suitcase bombs because the elite want to enslave everyone, and they’ll be able to because they’ll have cornered the energy and food markets, and everyone’ll die of starvation or dehydration because there’s no fertilizers or because the Earth’s surface temperature will go up to 700 degrees, just like Venus, and that’s all the fault of the commies, who are made up of Jews, who are smarter than everyone else, except the Chinese because of their genes, but nobody really cares because it’s all about love, baby, love. My father loves more people than your father, nyah, nyah, nyah.

  636. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 9:46 pm #

    Wage, thats anecdotal, As is what I am offering….
    From LA, I dont see them going home. I see them breeding and breeding.
    And I assume a million or so arrive every year, and that does not include the illegals.That last sentence is not based on anecdotal evidence.
    I say yr hypothesis is false.

  637. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 9:49 pm #

    ??????

  638. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 9:51 pm #

    Looks from Diane von Furstenberg’s New York Fashion Week show Sunday at Lincoln Center. Credit: Frazer Harrison / Getty Images ……
    wtf?

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  639. mika. February 16, 2012 at 9:58 pm #

    THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY
    “The Forces Of Darkness” Episode 2
    http://goo.gl/0WYBL
    @ minute 46 and on, there is very interesting analysis that corroborates my thesis.
    Btw, E.,
    History is not composed of “smoking guns”, that’s a completely wrong way of thinking about history. History is composed of dots, something like a Seurat painting. And when you step to the distance you can then logically connect the dots into a thread and a coherent image in your mind. That coherent image is the Vatican.

  640. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 10:00 pm #

    Yes, Brimelow briefly writes in a similar vein in his bestseller.
    ‘Furthermore, when a Pole or Swede or German achieved something later on, they didn’t get lionized for achieving despite their ethnic minority status. The were lionized for BEING GREAT AMERICANS. They wouldn’t wave Polish or Swedish or German flags at American parades’
    You havent been to the Parades / Protests in LA, where the Mexican flags flown and Ol Glorys burned or hung upside down.
    YOUR HOMEWORK…GO TO SBPDL BLOG AND READ
    THE STORY OF THE STATUE OF ‘YORK’ AT LEWIS AND CLARK COLLEGE
    thats real story telling.

  641. Buck Stud February 16, 2012 at 10:05 pm #

    The scene in the link below just might be the greatest “Made By Hand” moment in cinematic history- hands down! (Both from a yin and yang aspect)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cPg0uugjOI&feature=related

  642. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 10:14 pm #

    ‘things could get worse’
    My you are optimistic today!
    ‘could’…or ‘will’…?????
    Every 12 years…another Billion.
    Have you checked reviews for ‘Behind the Beautiful Forevers’?

  643. anti soak February 16, 2012 at 10:16 pm #

    You remind me of a child who taunts by repeating the same Gibberish over and over!

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  644. mika. February 16, 2012 at 10:16 pm #

    Keiser Report:
    German Empire vs Greek Carthage (E250)
    http://goo.gl/6HQqc

  645. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 10:36 pm #

    Yes, antisoak, you are right. I have P2C trained like a Pavlovian dog who cannot resist replying when this phrase is posted:
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.
    Of course, this might be the one time he let’s it stand without adding his commentary.
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  646. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 11:01 pm #

    Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010 by Charles Murray (author of The Bell Curve)

    Mr. Murray’s sobering portrait is of a nation where millions of people are losing touch with the founding virtues that have long lent American lives purpose, direction and happiness.
    –W. Bradford Wilcox, The Wall Street Journal

    People who are white and poor are more likely to be conservatives (which is what recent psychological research has found), and they are now demonstrating: rampant drug use, high drop out rates, obesity, disappearing values, etc.
    Those in the south and red states who are dependent on government safety net programs are those who are most angry and hateful.
    The ones who want to turn Iran into an irradiated parking lot are ignorant barbarians.
    I feel sorry for them, hope they are able to pull themselves up by their bootstraps someday, and I love them all.
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  647. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 11:09 pm #

    P2C made it into the New Testament: Hebrews 13:8
    Jesus Christ, the same yesterday and today and forever.
    But at least Jesus recognized and preached love, love toward God, love toward your neighbor, love toward yourself, and love toward your enemies.
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  648. asoka. February 16, 2012 at 11:26 pm #

    The new white poor are the welfare queens of 2012.
    They are unemployed, homeless, without health insurance, demoralized, angry, a dangerous fat white sedentary underclass.
    These poor conservative whites are afraid of everything. They are resentful. They say things like: “I was born in this town and I am going to die in this town.” They resent the “elite” who are college-educated. They are hostile towards those who advance their skills. “Nothing to learn, nothing to see here, move along.” They hate new technology and won’t adapt to the new ways of communicating and learning. So, the beat their kids, yell at their wives, and scream at the government.
    Charles Murray’s new book, Coming Apart, is about the lack of intellectual prowess among the poor white conservatives. The welfare queen is the white, rural, southern, disabled man who will not retrain himself. So he clings to his God and his guns… and gets government benefits and are resentful that they are the ones qualifying for those benefits.
    Fear, not hate, is the opposite of love. Hence, conspiracy theories. The new white underclass self-limits their ability to love out of fear.
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

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  649. Vlad Krandz February 16, 2012 at 11:42 pm #

    That’s right Bill: we should just shut up and let the Jews run the world.

  650. Buck Stud February 16, 2012 at 11:47 pm #

    The incised lettering of “Love” has been worn away by Asoka’s brutal hands of repetition. It’s nothing but a generic bar of soap now – slippery, devious, banal. Intentionally dropped on the floor, he joyfully mounts the backside in Luciferian chants of ecstasy. More, more, more, Asoka continues on. The inner city boom box with a never ending battery; the flapping Miller Moth with a all-night light bulb.

  651. Vlad Krandz February 16, 2012 at 11:49 pm #

    Gandhi believed this too – so he neglected his children to show how spiritual he was. Does a Buddha or Christ love all people? Equally? Probably. But what are we to make of that? Are we supposed to pretend that we are in that state? Or don’t have a relational responsibility to put some people first – children, spouse, parents, siblings, frieds etc?
    That’s why the Hindu Sanyasis are considered “dead”. Only then do they take up the ideal of universal love. Your promoting this ideal out of this context is inappropriate – a beginer’s mistake.

  652. asoka. February 17, 2012 at 12:08 am #

    Are we supposed to pretend…
    There is no pretend about it.
    Either your heart flowers and the fragrance of love is released, or it has not yet. The fragrance of love is available to everyone, it is indeed universal. You are still in the mind. No worries. One day your heart will also love universally.
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  653. asoka. February 17, 2012 at 12:13 am #

    Your assertion that the “incised lettering of “Love” has been worn away” is, frankly, embarrassing for what it says about you.
    I am sure you are aware of the vast literature on love. You might focus, for example, on the mystical poems of Rumi … but there are so many who have spoken through the millenia of universal love.
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

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  654. asoka. February 17, 2012 at 12:22 am #

    One of Rumi’s most famous poems reads:

    Whoever you may be, come
    Even though you may be
    An infidel, a pagan, or a fire-worshiper, come
    Our brotherhood is not one of despair
    Even though you have broken
    Your vows of repentance a thousand times, come.

    Rumi is known as the Poet of Universal Love because he was very tolerant of other faiths and backgrounds, saying that love is the path to enlightenment.
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  655. asoka. February 17, 2012 at 12:52 am #

    The John Brown Moment, of which JHK speaks this week, was a moment representative of a universal love. At the moment of his death John Brown said:

    My love to all who love their neighbors. I have asked to be spared from having any weak or hypo- critical prayers made over me when I am publicly murdered, and that my only religious attendants be poor little dirty, ragged, bareheaded, aud barefooted slave boys and girls, led by some gray-headed slave mother. Farewell! Farewell!

    John Brown loved right to the end of his life.
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  656. BeantownBill February 17, 2012 at 1:16 am #

    Vlad, my point is to not talk about Jews and Blacks and Mexicans, but rather talk about how we can deal with a reclining resource world. I’m not going to change my opinions and neither are you. I sense we could have some common goals on how to get by in a peak world. Let’s solve that problem, then we can meet at the ok corral for our personal shootout.

  657. Pucker February 17, 2012 at 1:18 am #

    Asoka wrote: “There is no limit to how many people we can love.”
    1. Have you ever read Sartre’s “No Exit”?
    l’enfer, c’est les autres (“Hell is other people”).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Exit
    2. I don’t think that the Buddha ever advocated “Universal Love” a la Mozi. I believe that the essence of Buddhism is that (a) Life is suffering; (b) we suffer because of emotional attachments to material things, people, etc.; and, therefore, (c) the way to escape suffering is to cultivate an emotional detachment from the material world.

  658. Qshtik February 17, 2012 at 1:30 am #

    I am convinced…
    There is no limit to how many people Asoka can annoy.

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  659. asoka. February 17, 2012 at 1:44 am #

    Pucker, Buddha explicitly taught universal love.
    The Karaniya Metta Sutta, is the Buddha’s “Hymn of Universal Love.”
    May ALL BEINGS by well!
    May ALL BEINGS be happy!
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  660. anti soak February 17, 2012 at 1:45 am #

    Really? Did he under study you?

  661. asoka. February 17, 2012 at 1:49 am #

    My most clever achievement is being able to force you to log onto ClusterFuck Nation.
    Then, when you are logged on, I have been able to force you to read my posts.
    Then, instead of scrolling past my posts, I am able to force you to reply instead of taking E.’s advice: SILENCE.
    I do all of this for your own good, though that may not be readily apparent. Perhaps you might learn something about universal love, like:
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  662. asoka. February 17, 2012 at 1:51 am #

    Ouch!
    Buddha taught loving-kindness, towards everyone, including Qshtik.
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  663. desg120e3 February 17, 2012 at 2:29 am #

    The Dow Jones industrial average closed with a loss of 248.85 points, or 2.1%, at 11,louis vuitton outlet,547.31, nearly a five-week low. The Dow now is back in the red year to date, off 0.3%.

    The tone was set at the outset after it appeared that the congressional “super committee” on deficit reduction would fail to reach an agreement by Congress’ Wednesday deadline. The committee confirmed after markets closed that no deal had been reached.

    Given Europe’s financial crisis, the committee’s stalemate was viewed as another sign of developed-world governments’ inability or unwillingness to deal with their spiraling debt loads.

    Historically, November and December have been the U.S. stock market’s best two-month period of the year. But the Dow is down 3.4% this month, and analysts said it’s getting more difficult to imagine what might bring buyers back.

    “There is just no good news,” said Dave Rovelli, head of equity trading at brokerage Canaccord Adams in New York.

    He said some of the selling in stocks Monday stemmed from fear that the U.S. could soon face another downgrade of its bond rating. Shares worldwide plunged in August after Standard & Poor’s cut the U.S. to AA+ from AAA.

    But after markets closed, S&P said that it has no plans to further cut its rating on U.S. debt soon, despite the super committee’s failure.

    Later in the day, Moody’s Investors Service affirmed its Aaa rating on U.S. debt, although it kept a “negative” outlook.? Moody’s had previously said that a failure by the super committee would not be a “decisive” factor in its rating assessment.

    In Europe, stocks fell sharply as Spanish government bond yields jumped. Voters’ decision to throw out Spain’s Socialist government failed to make investors feel more confident about holding the nation’s debt. The 10-year Spanish bond yield rose to a new euro-era high of 6.55% from 6.38% on Friday.

    The Eurozone’s debt crisis has engulfed Spain, Italy and France in recent weeks as worries about the countries’ ability to pay their debts has driven up yields on government bonds. Each uptick in yields makes it more expensive for the countries to roll over maturing debt.

    Investors also were unnerved by the German Bundesbank’s new forecast of a steep slowdown in the German economy in 2012.

    Germany’s stock market fell 3.4% and the Spanish market lost 3.5%. The Italian market dropped 4.7% to a seven-week low.

    Emerging-market stocks also were broadly lower, a sign of concern about the global economy’s prospects in the new year. Russia’s Micex stock index sank 4.8%, its biggest one-day drop since early October.

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  664. desg120e3 February 17, 2012 at 2:30 am #

    Officials at the Port of Los Angeles said two new freighter lines that began calling on the port in December–China Shipping Container Line and Norasia Shipping Service–helped fuel the surge in cargo volume.

    Matt Plezia, a trade analyst with the Port of Long Beach, said Los Angeles’ January cargo surge could be an aberration and not necessarily the start of a trend in container supremacy. “To say either way at this point would be speculation,sac vuitton,” he said.

    Record January container volume at Los Angeles came at a time when Long Beach took in nearly 178,000 import containers–itself a record for the month, and just over 80,000 export containers, which beat Los Angeles exports and was the Long Beach facility’s best January for outbound cargo in four years.

  665. old69 February 17, 2012 at 2:34 am #

    Give Us Back The Old West
    Like when you see in movies, the two cowboys confront each other finally, they will have a short and small duel (or will slug it out), the fastest pistol to shoot wins, end of story. So the opposition between will powers is a simple affair, no need for ideologies, for lawyers, for complications, for justifications, for religions, for millions of blocks of texts and thought processes and mind games and debates and politics and consensus and convincing others that “you are right”, that you “have the truth” that you are spiritually and morally correct, that the rules of society and common living must be those you think are right and such.
    No, it is a simple shoot out, the two fight, the stronger or luckier wins: cut the crap, the winner doesn’t need any justifications, there are no justifications, there are no debates or rules of laws or theories and ideologies and common good or politics that must back up the winner: the winner simply wins, the fight and confrontation is a very short and simple story, no longer any complications, the truth is only what happened, the justification is within the event itself, it is over and done and finished and correct, spiritually and morally and metaphysically because reality is not deep and the rules and life between people have nothing deep about them: there is no religion and no absolute truth, only constant fights and bickerings, constant confrontations between opposing will powers and may the winner, any winner win. We are not more or better or deeper than this essentially: the Man Brain is a primitive Ape Man Machine that has nothing deep about itself, it is just a little insignificant turd that wants to fight and win.
    And in fact, it is so insane that so many people, politicians, theoreticians and anyone keeps on reasoning, creating blocks of text to justify why “they are right”, all of that mental effort for something so stupid essentially, to be within morality, to create the better laws, to create the better decisions when there is nothing at all about it but a simple fight, A against B, end of story. The justifications never end, the religions never end, the Jews against the Muslims, Blacks against Whites, this and that (look at vlad, he writes thousands of lines of text simply because he would want to beat up some nigger end of story, but he needs all of these moral and spiritual and metaphysical justifications to back it up, he can’t be honest with himself and simply say : I hate blacks and want to kill or beat them up or whatever, end of story, there is no need for ever more texts and theories, it is simply A against B, the theory and justifications can go on forever, and any position can be justified can be demonstrated to be correct, but that is totally irrelevant, just beat up who you want and win, end of story).
    As if we have a Hate to Symbol Generator Machine, or Conflict to Symbol Generator Machine, the more pent up opposition and hate and conflict there is between two opposing entities, the more symbols, texts, debates, politics and lawyers and whatever is generated, as if all the energy that a short fight would require is used for a long never ending complex, mind game debate, a theoretical never ending chess game between the opposing factions, etc.
    Just like ideologies are being used to subtly manipulate people’s minds in order to win, and they do win, since for example in Southern Europe all the debates rotate around how evil the labor markets are, the workers are “too protected” or “not flexible enough” or “need new training” in order to find “jobs” and such: a subtle brainwashing where the words already assign who is to blame and what must be changed and it is always the weaker social classes that are guilty of something (like this myth of training, you lose your job you need new training for something else, as if the workers are never trained enough, it is their fault, they don’t have the appropriate training, or education or whatever and this goes hand in hand with the myth of always having to change jobs, you will have 10 different jobs in a lifetime so of course you will always need new training since according to the dominating ideology you will be a surgeon one year, the next year an engineer, the next still a singer and so forth and everyone buys in to this huge pile of BS: the truth is that for those 3 or 4 idiotic simple manipulations and information processing manipulations 99 % of the jobs need, there is no training at all required, just some common sense, but they all want to make it seem so special, so complicated (and actually many jobs are rendered complicated with never ending “meetings” since they all have so little real work to do, so they complicate and mess up simple activities to create imaginary work and mostly “more time at work so as to make it seem you are producing more” and such) to hide the fact that simply, there is not enough work for everyone so you have to invent an excuse).
    So please, give us back the old west, just a short pistol fight, cut all the ideological crap, cut all the crap, just a short fight, and the winner may win, who cares who wins, it is irrelevant.
    Give us back the good old west where two men looked at each other in the eyes and extracted a pistol as fast as possible and one of them shot another and that is the end of the story. It is so much more honest, genuine, pure, metaphysically correct after all, instead of all of this ideological and political hiding, all of this theoretical BS, this lawyer like society where everyone is acting like a lawyer, this Information Society and Information Economy where everyone would like to beat up everyone else but can only use words instead of fists.

  666. old69 February 17, 2012 at 2:48 am #

    Check out:
    http://instantsingularity1.blogspot.com/
    Ok, so it no longer belongs in the Rant House.
    Thank You. You’re Welcome.

  667. Eleuthero February 17, 2012 at 3:00 am #

    Mika said:
    You’re talking out of your racist ass, per usual. When you show me the numbers, then we can talk. But the numbers are exactly in contradiction to your assertion. Not only the numbers in the US, but the numbers in Israel too. So really, your lame attempt at deflection amounts to yet another nazi vlad fart. But we always knew this about you, didn’t we. Yes, we did. Yes, we did.
    ************************************************************
    Oh, I need NUMBERS, do I?? No, I’m not Vlad because I’ve never, personally, needed “ethnic pride” to fall back on because I’m an individual … just like accomplished members of any ethnicity … whether of color, or not. Fuck you as far as the numbers go because YOU are going to run after them, not me.
    I’ll just lay ’em on you: Jews are underrepresented in the military by a factor of TEN relative to their numbers in the population. They love blacks and Hispanics because those are the underclasses that go and fight wars so that Jews can live under the cloak of invisibility while they guilt-trip the crap out of everybody else.
    No, I don’t want to eradicate you like Vlad. I just want a little honesty and you’re going to be the last guy in the world to provide it. You and your stupid idea that the Vatican is behind all world evil. Are Lloyd Blankfein and Jamie Dimon working for the Vatican?
    ALL, and I mean ALL ethnicities are racist … my central thesis and Jews are by no means excluded from that “all”. Indeed, they use guilt, like Jewish mothers, to prevent others from examining their stereotypical foibles.
    E.

  668. Pucker February 17, 2012 at 3:21 am #

    Asoka, Below is a link to the Four Noble Truths upon which Buddhism rests.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Noble_Truths
    The Buddha did not advocate “Universal Love”. Buddhism maintains that human suffering is result of desire, or the emotional attachment to material things, people, etc.
    One overcomes suffering by cultivating an emotional detachment from material things, people, etc. through mediation which helps to extinguish the human delusion of the ego. Buddhists believe that humans are “fucked” because of the human ego, which is a delusional belief that the individual is separate and distinct from the external world. Through the practice of mediation one eventually realizes the delusion of this separatedness.
    In my view, people are basically fucked because they buy into the egotistical notion that they are separate from the external world. They are frustrated by the futility of constantly trying to overcome this physical separation of themselves and the external world by “conquering the external world by accumulating power, wealth and material possessions which they subconsciusly view as extensions of themselves. The Buddha recognized the futility of this meaningless pursuit of power and possessions and advocated a detachment from the world and society. In other words, the Buddha (although he had compassion for people and, therefore, developed a way to overcome suffering) basically maintained that people and society generally SUCK.

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  669. asoka. February 17, 2012 at 3:36 am #

    Pucker, this question of love was specifically addressed by Buddha when King Pasenadi asked this:
    “Teacher Gautama, there are people who say you advise people not to love. They say you have said that the more a person loves, the more he will suffer and despair. I can see some truth in that statement, but I am unable to find peace with it. Without love, life would seem empty of meaning. Please help me resolve this.”
    Buddha said: “Your majesty, your question is a very good one, and many people can benefit from it. There are many kinds of love. We should examine closely the nature of each kind of love. Life has a great need of the presence of love, but not the sort of love that is based on lust, passion, attachment, discrimination, and prejudice.
    Majesty, there is another kind of love, sorely needed, which consists of loving kindness and compassion, or maitri and karuna.
    Usually when people speak of love they are referring only to the love that exists between parents and children, husbands and wives, family members, or the members of one’s caste of country. Because the nature of such love depends on the concepts of ‘me’ and ‘mine’, it remains entangled in attachment and discrimination. People want only to love their parents, spouse, children, grandchildren, their own relatives and countrymen. Because they are caught in attachment, they worry about accidents that could befall their loves ones even before such things actually take place. When such accidents do occur, they suffer terribly. Love that is based on discrimination breeds prejudice. People become indfferent or even hostile to those outside their own circle of love. Attachment and discrimination are sources of suffering for ourselves and others. Majesty, the love for which all beings truly hunger is loving kindness and compassion. Maitri is the love that has the capacity to bring happiness to another. Karuna is the love which has the capacity to remove another’s suffering. Maitri and karuna do not demand anything in return. Loving kindness and compassion are not limited to one’s parents, spouse, children, relatives, caste members, and countrymen. They extend to all people and all beings.
    ———————-
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  670. asoka. February 17, 2012 at 3:55 am #

    Pucker, you can’t stop at the Four Noble Truths. They are the conceptual foundation of Buddhism.
    To put them into practice you have to continue to the Eightfold Path, which includes compassion (karuna) as part of Right Action.
    Karu?? is one of the four “divine abodes” (brahmavih?ra), along with loving kindness (P?li: mett?), sympathetic joy (mudita) and equanimity (upekkha).
    In the Pali canon, the Buddha recommends cultivating these four virtuous mental states to both householders and monastics. When one develops these four states, the Buddha counsels radiating them in all directions.
    IN ALL DIRECTIONS…
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  671. Pucker February 17, 2012 at 4:14 am #

    “Life has a great need of the presence of love, but not the sort of love that is based on lust, passion, attachment, discrimination, and prejudice.”
    I think that the Buddha was referring to what we think of as “compassion”, which is a bit different from what most people think of as “Love”.
    When you say “There is no limit to how many people we can love”, most people are likely to misinterpret your use of the word “love”.
    The Buddha espoused “compassion” in the context of detachment from material things, people, etc. The Buddha’s compassion is based upon his recognition of the people’s suffering, which arises out of their attachment to material things, people, etc. In fact, the Buddha would probably argue that “love” in the Western sense gives rise to suffering as at some point all lovers must all part, if only upon death. The Buddha’s compassion is the rationale for his teaching as a way for the people to overcome their suffering through detachment. In any event, the people (and society) suffer because of their inherent nature, their tragic flaw of ego. Ipso facto, people and society SUCK. Because people and society SUCK, the Buddha advocated renouncing material possessions, power and society to become a monk and practice meditation.

  672. Pucker February 17, 2012 at 4:19 am #

    I think that the Buddha would probably look at the state of U.S. society generally and say:
    “Man…look how FUCKED UP these people are! Good Lord, you really gotta feel sorry for, and have compassion for, these poor bastards because…man…they sure do SUCK! And that whole grotesque Super Bowl freak show! My God! If only they could rise above their narrow egos. But, don’t get your hopes up because it looks like they just ain’t gonna get it.”

  673. old69 February 17, 2012 at 5:17 am #

    “But that explosion of the current technostructure was a product of fossil energy exploitation, not the cause of it, and those energy supplies have fairly defined boundaries.”
    Good Reply ! That’s the way I like it, when someone replies the ideas in a post and not all the petty personal and insignificant crap.
    The current technostructure is a product of oil, but oil too is a product of technology and know how. It goes both ways. And we can find many new energy sources if we really wanted to: but that is the problem, the dominating ideologies, both left, right and green have put a psychological brake on the advancement of Man just when this advancement is now totally possible. We can harness Atomic Energy, Solar and others, we can decrease energy usage by using mass transit and skyscrapers, we can do many many things. But if everyone says it can’t be done for a never ending list of reasons, mostly make believe and intentional reasons, it will never be done and we will go back to the stone ages.
    The capitalists say that it can’t be done (and don’t do it) because there is little profit to be made and because resource scarcity plays very nicely in their hands, they have an excuse to not distribute wealth since it is so “limited” (everything is running out): The greens and environmentalists say (and don’t do it, namely create new Atom Energy plants and such) that oil is running out, the earth is running out of resources and we are way too many people, etc. Everyone else says that workers are lazy, uneducated, untrained turds that don’t deserve a job and such.
    So, how on earth will anything ever possibly improve ? No chance at all, that is the way an stone age Ape Man Brain has condemned humanity to going backwards instead of forwards.
    “Despite your counter-rhetoric, you still view the situation through the neoclassical lens of supply and demand economics.”
    Could be, after all, all of our thought is constrained by dominating words which imply values and decisions and intentionalities already implied and taken even before you put the words together to form a thought. The only way out of the straight jackets of all of these ideologies is to constantly question the reality of the basic invariants, the words considered unalterable, the reference system, so even “OIL is running out” can easily be seen as an ideology that conditions all other possible thoughts, whereas this may not be true at all or may have a very limited effect considering how many new technologies and how much scientific know how we now have to compensate this.
    But alas, it is always a fight, a confrontation, A against B, two conflicting will powers (that try to justify and hide the real simple conflict behind ideologies and words): I want skyscrapers and rockets, you want trees and such.
    AN APE

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  674. Eleuthero February 17, 2012 at 5:56 am #

    Pucker said:
    “Man…look how FUCKED UP these people are! Good Lord, you really gotta feel sorry for, and have compassion for, these poor bastards because…man…they sure do SUCK! And that whole grotesque Super Bowl freak show! My God! If only they could rise above their narrow egos. But, don’t get your hopes up because it looks like they just ain’t gonna get it.”
    *************************************************************
    A great retort to the Buddha-pest of CFN, Asoka, whose knowledge of Buddhism is that of a dilletante. You haven’t been around long enough to see him ply his wares as a “guru” but many of us have. I love your “Fightin’ Buddha”, Pucker. This is an advanced idea and like many advanced ideas the person uttering it often doesn’t even know, themselves, how far out there it is.
    E.

  675. mika. February 17, 2012 at 5:59 am #

    ALL, and I mean ALL ethnicities are racist … my central thesis and Jews are by no means excluded from that “all”.
    ==
    So now that I called you on your racist BS, we’ve gone from Jews being THE most racist ethnicity in the world, to ALL ethnicities are racist and Jews are no different. However, when Jews force you to examine your racism and hypocrisy, well, that trip is just too much for you to bare, so you make up BS that both you and I know is BS.
    As to Lloyd Blankfein or Jamie Dimon or Bernanke or Geithner or Kissinger or [insert hired puppet scapegoat jew here], what I want to know is, who it is that is selecting these nobody Jews to then focuses all attention on them. Who it is, and why. I think I know very well who it is and why. And I also know why these dark lords are never mentioned and why there is zero coverage of them and their organization(s).

  676. Pucker February 17, 2012 at 6:29 am #

    Actually, the Buddha probably wouldn’t react quite like that. He probably would recognize how FUCKED UP narcissistic American society is, but he would recognize it with detachment. A bit like the Buddha stepping in dog poop, and recognizing that there was dog poop on the bottom of his foot, how it felt, how it smelled, etc., but he would not have any emotional reaction to it. He would simply wash it off and then continue about his business.

  677. bubbleheadMarc February 17, 2012 at 7:14 am #

    Your comments on buddhism are pretty good. Of course there are many different schools of buddhism so buddhism is at least as chaotic as Christianity at least institutionally. Specifically regarding the topic of ego it needs to be stressed that ego is an illusion or an ongoing narrative people construct about themselves which is insubstantial. On the other hand I don’t think that American society is all bad, and buddhists do strive to avoid extremes of both attachment and aversion which has been called selective attention. I always recommend “Living Zen” by Linnsen as the best book on buddhism. It goes almost without saying that most western buddhists are more like Alan Watts than they are like orthodox buddhists from Burma or Thailand. I do agree with Watts that it is fairly pointless to even affiliate oneself officially with a particular buddhist sect. And finally, it is difficult to find a buddhist temple in most regions which is “congenial” because the offerings in the midwest are limited. I feel uncomfortable with these Chinese lineage hybridized Pure Land-Chan temples and would prefer something more like Soto Zen from Japan where people are not “taking refuge” in the buddha much as if he were the proto Jesus or something to that effect. In other words “be a light unto yourself”.

  678. messianicdruid February 17, 2012 at 7:17 am #

    Rep. Jackie Speier (D-California) said Thursday she wants the Department of Homeland Security to cease its social-media and news-monitoring operation.
    Speaking at a Homeland Security subcommittee hearing, the California lawmaker said she was “outraged” that the agency has hired a contractor to review a variety of social networking sites, including Facebook and Twitter, and that General Dynamics is being tasked with reviewing news sources, blogs and their bylines for all types of articles, including those containing anti-American sentiment and reaction to policy proposals.
    “This should not be a political operation,” she said.
    Aping RP is one way to get traction…
    http://cryptogon.com/?p=877

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  679. kgreqyma February 17, 2012 at 7:29 am #

    Really want to be with you even if your own No matter how tired no matter how tough they have no regrets to miss and you together even though the fire of his own life is about to extinguish himself regrets that no shake miss you with more pain again grievances as long as your smile is always so bright no complaints really want to be with you , even if he lost now all also do not care to miss you before how bumpy the road is as long as you by my side will charge forward want to be with you , even if he can only do for you a trivial matter I will try to complete miss you together even if I do not care know yourself that they also willingly want to be with you even if only quietly watching your own contented really want to be with you as long as you always be happy worry about without taking into account is the most pleasant thing in my life because you are happy so I’m happy because they really love you miss and you together

  680. tegmark February 17, 2012 at 8:00 am #

    THE CLOWN
    Hey Busty, are you the Clown Who Believes in Absolutes ? Everyone is a measuring device against everyone else, everyone is a temporary and relative (and can always change in any way) reference system against which everyone else is measured, judged, acted upon, and especially conflicted upon since a measurement of a person as compared to another may be “wrong” and needing to be fixed (people fighting are conflicting and different reference systems trying to dominate and win): but if everyone is a reciprocal reference system, then there is no reference system at all, there is no Absolute, only reciprocal, insignificant, quirk measurements that have no value at all except the value the totally subjective (hence always wrong and insignificant, nay, EVIL) turd performing a measurement assigns arbitrarily, just for fun, for NO REASON AT ALL. Is that why people need GOD and his BOOK OF TRUTHS ?
    Each person is like the ground state in a transistor circuit, measuring the voltages and signals of the various terminals with an oscilloscope, and reading different signals, since each one is measuring the signals from a different ground state, a different voltage level, nay, even a different signal being placed as a ground state: hence all the signals are different, contrasting, they are all different measurements that, taken as a whole are meaningless and arbitrary: IN OTHER WORDS THEY ARE ALL WRONG.
    So, just suck it up Busty, there are no Absolutes, so please, pretty please build me my 456 thousand trillion 1966 Oldsmobile Ninety Eights for me by tonight, I need a ride. And by the way, don’t worry if you completely demolish and kill nature in the process, NATURE IS OUR ENEMY, KILL IT WITH ALL OF YOUR GUTS, PLEASE HATE NATURE’S GUTS LIKE A WILD CLOWN, GET IT ON THE RUN AS IN “LOOK AT MOTHER NATURE ON THE RUN IN THE 1970S”.
    Like when you see a person and another person and then the streets and the highways and homes, the invariants, and then you try to imagine how a chunk of matter that constitutes an invariant can be transformed into a given person, what is the distance in numbers of configurations that matter is frozen into compared to the street, car and person ? And how many possible paths can matter traverse to go from being a house to a highway to a person then again to a car (AN OLDSMOBILE…), etc. How many paths, how many distinct configurations are between them all, and is there a middle ground, and is there an alternative path with fewer intermediate states (or mixed states ?), and what if the intermediate states were more significant, or a one shot transformation from person to car to star to atom to Man Brain to thought, etc. And then why communicate ? for chunks of matter to shorten the distance between themselves ? or for them to imagine that they are similar and the same (since matter is afraid of disintegrating the very essence of its own existence, it knows that it is a relative quirk and must confirm itself by waking up and pretending to be alive and measuring itself with a contorted contraption in the form of a Man Brain) ?…
    THE APE MAN

  681. tegmark February 17, 2012 at 8:15 am #

    That was from:
    http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=178178
    Also check out:
    http://instantsingularity1.blogspot.com/
    Ok. so it no longer belongs in the Rant House.
    Thank You. You’re Welcome.

  682. tegmark February 17, 2012 at 8:18 am #

    Also check out:
    http://instantsingularity1.blogspot.com/
    and
    http://instantsingularity3.blogspot.com/
    TOBOR THE EIGHT MAN

  683. asoka. February 17, 2012 at 9:05 am #

    I think that the Buddha was referring to what we think of as “compassion”, which is a bit different from what most people think of as “Love”.
    What you think, what is in your mind, is conceptual. It’s just an idea in your mind.
    What I would suggest is that you find a sangha and a teacher and actually put into practice Buddha’s eight-fold path.
    Spend a few years in meditation with a teacher and a sangha. Instead of conjecture (“I think that the Buddha…”), engage in the experiment.
    Through the heart practice of metta and tonglen, through your own experience, you will discover all-embracing compassion.
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

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  684. asoka. February 17, 2012 at 9:22 am #

    The non-partisan Campaign Finance Institute, which analyzes contributions, found that small donors, those whose aggregate contributions amounted to less than $200, accounted for 48 percent of Obama’s campaign income in 2011. That more than doubles the small donor contributions to his campaign in 2007.
    But, but, the economy is bad and people are broke, and people are disillusioned with Obama.
    Evidently not … if you follow the money.

  685. ozone February 17, 2012 at 9:37 am #

    “O3, maybe it’s more relaxed out in the country, but heah in the big city, municipal inspectors can be very nasty, with no provocation from the property owner. Not saying everyone of them is like that, but many must have rotten lives and wake up every day just plain ornery.” -BTB
    Absolutely! I’ve seen way more than my share of ’em, and some are just plain stinkers for the sadistic pleasure of it, or some strange inferiority complex that can’t be overcome in the light of the working day (when they’re supposed to at least ACT professionally). This is why we’ve always called them Little Hitlers.
    In the dirt-digging bidnez, I’ve actually run across a few that really knew their stuff and were smart and helpful with the ubiquitous “field adjustments”. (It’s surprisingly rare for a plan that looks good on paper to transfer to an exact duplication in the real world. Kinda like the battlefield. ;o)
    Oh, the stories I could bore you with! lol

  686. charliefoxtrot February 17, 2012 at 9:41 am #

    i for one am running into a definite limit on the number of people i can love…shut the fuck up, asoka, and make room for someone who deserves consideration: almost anyone else…your blanket, and patently false, truism gets tired, and fails to take into account that most of us save the label for those we encounter in real life who earn the feeling by something said or done either to us directly, or to another in our presence…your generic buddhism only cheapens and weakens the sentiment by dissolution and over-use; and is insulting to anyone who has been wronged by another, or loves one who has been so wronged- this latter, i dare say, even more so…in closing, i ve just shown you where you are wrong, and if you don t see that i don t care; just shut the fuck up already; moving on…

  687. ozone February 17, 2012 at 9:45 am #

    Beans,
    Good point. Gotta make it “through” first. Then we can decide whose dog is smarter big-picture-wise.
    But FIRST, privations and pestilence will provide a truly maddening clarity.

  688. ozone February 17, 2012 at 9:52 am #

    Charlie,
    The over-ripe stench of sanctimony gettin’ to you?
    ;o)
    I share your disgust; just the waste of commentary space alone is cruelty itself! (That could be the point; to take our keyboards and go home in the face of such unceasing, braying righteousness.)

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  689. asoka. February 17, 2012 at 10:01 am #

    i for one am running into a definite limit on the number of people i can love…
    LOL!
    Another censor on CFN.
    While you share an interesting tidbit of information, it says something about you. It’s like Jesus saying: “Love your enemies” and you reply: “Most of us save the label for those we encounter in real life who earn the feeling by something said or done either to us directly.”
    You actually did say that in your previous post. It is an interesting tidbit of information about you, but not about the possibility of universal love.
    There is no limit to how many people we can love.

  690. ozone February 17, 2012 at 10:02 am #

    Senor Kunstler on Max the K.
    Suggested by someone else above. (Wage, LB?)
    http://maxkeiser.com/tag/james-howard-kunstler/
    Yep, John Brown moment discussed…

  691. progress2conserve February 17, 2012 at 10:35 am #

    This is magnificent prose, Buck Stud!
    “The incised lettering of “Love” has been worn away by Asoka’s brutal hands of repetition. It’s nothing but a generic bar of soap now – slippery, devious, banal. Intentionally dropped on the floor, he joyfully mounts the backside in Luciferian chants of ecstasy. More, more, more, Asoka continues on. The inner city boom box with a never ending battery; the flapping Miller Moth with a all-night light bulb.” -buck-
    Pithy and succinct, filled with delightful metaphors as it leads asoka to the inevitable eternity of the flapping Miller Moth.
    Magnificent, I say!
    I can hardly improve on it, yet I must try.
    This is a peak resources blog, is it not?
    Or, at least, it begins each Monday as a peak resources blog, with JHK’s insistent persistence.
    Love is an emotion, hardwired into humans because of its benefits to survival. Love is such a powerful emotion that all World Religions spin and twist it to their own ends. Perhaps the Buddha and the Christ were correct – and when we die, Love becomes Universal and Eternal.
    But we are not dead, yet.
    Religions (and Roman Catholicism is on the SHORTEST of lists here) need to change their version of Infinite Love – so that it can again work for living biological humans on a finite planet.
    =====================
    More later from me, as well as specific comments to Vlad and Mika. In the meanwhile, let us all revel in the newly discovered obsessive nature of the Resident Buddha-Pest of CFN (tm Eleuthero!)
    as he continues his frantic attempts to assault the unassailable:
    For living humans on Earth, there is a limit to how many people we can love.

  692. Buck Stud February 17, 2012 at 10:48 am #

    Asoka,
    Once again you’re confused. My statement did not apply to ” Love” in general, but your redundant evoking of it. The concept of love is somehow diminished when passive-aggressive types such as yourself use it as a shield to hide behind before hurling your next barrage of insults.
    What insults you might ask? How about terming Prog a “Pavlovian Dog” for starters. Is that your love spirit shining through? Or personally mocking the death of a recent soldier in order to further your political agenda. Your excuse in doing so was a ‘what’s good for the goose is good for the gander’rationale. Which further highlights the passive-aggressive nature of your infantile,ridiculous mantra parade in revealing the “scorecard” nature of your “Love”. Indeed, “Karma” in your hands is just retribution applied with corny New Age impasto. But you don’t fool Rhino and others; your game is all water and no color: transparent and vacuous.
    Moreover, you devilishly pronounce the universality of love, a world without borders. And yet Asoka himself is very closed off and secretive – you refused to reveal your life’s occupation when asked.
    But I will hand you this. Your offer to meet Bill from Boston on the side of some road after a very long cross-country road trip was as lovely as it gets – in a revealing sort of way.

  693. Qshtik February 17, 2012 at 10:56 am #

    We’re two weeks into this latest (endless love) shtick of Asoka’s and it’s looking as though it may have legs. But with any luck, and spring just a month away, he may shift unexpectedly to water catchment systems and the composting of chicken shit. We can only hope!

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  694. DeeJones February 17, 2012 at 11:10 am #

    Fake US bonds worth trillions seized:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17076378
    Say, did anybody notice if a giant Bobs Big Boy was seen nearby taking off into space?
    That rascally Dr. Evil is up to his hi-jinks again.
    Or is he?
    Dee
    Or is it……

  695. charliefoxtrot February 17, 2012 at 11:13 am #

    cqtm…or that old standard, adobe for everyone- it s just karma, y all…

  696. Qshtik February 17, 2012 at 11:36 am #

    A great retort to the Buddha-pest of CFN
    ================
    Great play on words E. My Hungarian friend Mari will appreciate it.

  697. wagelaborer February 17, 2012 at 12:21 pm #

    I don’t think that asoka has ever called people names. Especially compared to the vicious name-calling that others have indulged in.
    But, reality is less interesting than fantasy, apparently. And, just like our ruling overlords, people don’t bother to keep to the truth on CFN. Just make assertions with authority, and they will be believed.
    So, Prog, I don’t know what you did there in Georgia, and who you dealt with, but black opinion is not monolithic.
    “Harry Belafonte often tells the story of one of his last conversations with the late Dr. Martin Luther King, in which King expressed the fear that blacks had struggled mightily only to integrate themselves into a burning house. Even that might be OK, one supposes, if the black leadership class imagined themselves as firefighters, trying to protect the lives and livelihoods of their people. But Atlanta’s black political class aren’t fighting the fires. They’ve used their privileged access as mayors, legislators and corporate officials to join the privatizers and looters.
    It’s time to disown them.”
    http://blackagendareport.com/content/giving-away-store-black-political-class-bystanders-and-looters

  698. Eleuthero February 17, 2012 at 12:21 pm #

    Q. said:
    A great retort to the Buddha-pest of CFN
    Great play on words E. My Hungarian friend Mari will appreciate it.
    ***************************************************************
    Thanks, Q.. The pun certainly seemed to fit this person. 🙂
    E.

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  699. Eleuthero February 17, 2012 at 12:29 pm #

    Mika said:
    As to Lloyd Blankfein or Jamie Dimon or Bernanke or Geithner or Kissinger or [insert hired puppet scapegoat jew here], what I want to know is, who it is that is selecting these nobody Jews to then focuses all attention on them. Who it is, and why. I think I know very well who it is and why. And I also know why these dark lords are never mentioned and why there is zero coverage of them and their organization(s).
    *************************************************************
    Right, Henry Kissinger is a puppet. With a statement like that I know you’re out of your fucking mind. He’s a puppet MASTER. You like conspiracies, right, Mika? After all, your entire mental infrastructure is this Vatican thing, right? Henry Kissinger is in all of the most powerful and covert organizations in the world like the Bilderberger Group (which is no conspiracy because they do not disguise any of their meetings).
    Amazing that if a Jew is corrupt and/or incompetent, he’s a “scapegoat” while if it’s some other kind of Honkie, he’s evil incarnate. This is why I mostly don’t talk to your kind because you’re guilty of the very thing you accuse others of … selective attention.
    Calling Kissinger and Bernanke “puppets” is one of the funniest and least objective statements I’ve seen on this blog in a long, long time. They are two of the greatest string-pullers in the world, even in a historical context.
    E.

  700. wagelaborer February 17, 2012 at 12:29 pm #

    Thanks, lbendet, for clearing up the Colbert absence.

  701. Eleuthero February 17, 2012 at 12:56 pm #

    Asoka said:
    Karu?? is one of the four “divine abodes” (brahmavih?ra), along with loving kindness (P?li: mett?), sympathetic joy (mudita) and equanimity (upekkha).
    In the Pali canon, the Buddha recommends cultivating these four virtuous mental states to both householders and monastics. When one develops these four states, the Buddha counsels radiating them in all directions.
    *******************************************************
    You are stuck, historically, on the Hinayana scriptures. The latest Buddhistic incarnation, the Vajrayana (Lightning) path, has the notion of “ruthless compassion” which Zen and Tibetan Buddhism certainly embrace.
    That’s why so many Zen and/or Tibetan stories exist where an egotistical student gets his comeuppance, often with slapstick “violence”, at the hands of a master. It doesn’t mean the master does not love the student. Indeed, after the master raps students upside the head in many of these stories, the student breaks out in a cold sweat because he just had satori.
    The Pali Canons preceded Vajrayana by around SEVEN CENTURIES and, like many religions, Buddhism underwent many transformations after Hinayana including Mahayana and Vajrayana. Mahayana was an attempt to overcome the torpor of Hinayana which was accused, by the fathers of Mahayana, as being torpid, unmoving, and worshipping of mystery for its own sake. Hence came the great Mahayana slogan: “One should not dwell anywhere, especially in non-dwelling”.
    Not many people, including me, take you seriously on this site because of bullshit like your attempt to “teach” another CFN member the “facts” of Buddhism. And why should they take you seriously? You’re a dilletante who, like most dilletantes, illustrates the hackneyed old saw that “A little knowledge is dangerous”.
    You function on CFN as a self-anointed “Buddhist” but your knowledge of Buddhism is sophomoric and half-baked. The high-handedness with which you deliver your “wisdom” is the stuff of parody.
    E.

  702. desg120e3 February 17, 2012 at 1:01 pm #

    Most infants are weaned from breast milk or formula to pureed baby foods. From there they go on to eat finger foods — cut-up pieces of soft table foods — and on to cheeseburgers and fries. Well, OK, maybe not all of them.

    A new study suggests that babies may develop healthier eating habits if the skip that pureed-food stage and go straight to finger foods.

    The study, published in the on Monday, looked at 155 children ages 20 months to 6 years old. Their parents provided detailed information on the children’s weaning style and food preferences.

    More kids — 92 — had been allowed to finger-feed themselves and 63 babies had been spoon-fed with pureed foods during the weaning stage. Differences showed up between the two groups. The babies who ate finger foods liked carbohydrates more; the spoon-fed babies liked sweets more. More of the spoon-fed kids were obese or . In comparing the two groups, researchers controlled for other factors that could affect infant feeding styles, such as family income and parents’ weight.

    The study is small but raises some interesting questions, said the authors, from the University of in the United Kingdom. It could be that babies are aware of food textures and food presentation and that awareness shapes their food preferences. Pureed foods lack any texture recognition.

    Also,nike pas cher, allowing babies to feed themselves during weaning helps them to pay attention to their appetites and develop control over food. Babies are less likely to be influenced by the parents’ anxieties over how much they eat.

    Of course, one of the best reasons to wean using pureed foods is to protect babies from choking on baby foods. The study authors said that few babies in the finger-fed group choked on their food.

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  703. mika. February 17, 2012 at 1:35 pm #

    EVERYONE who holds public office in the US is a puppet and a servant, from the President down. But you are a moron, and a racist bigoted moron at that. So trying to explain this to you is like talking to the wall. Your whole fucking government is one big puppet show. The puppets do what the puppet masters pay them to do. In the case of “Let them bleed” Kissinger, that fucker was hired as a strategic thinker. And if his thinking didn’t suit his masters, he would have quickly been replaced with another, or not hired at all.
    But as I said, you are a moron. You have the understanding of a child. A child who cannot distinguish between perception and reality. Like the morons in Plato’s cave perceiving the production dancing shadows on the wall to be reality.
    For all your conceited dumb life you’ve been a tool. But rather than admit this to yourself and admit that you are a blind ignorant moron with an inflated opinion of himself, and then try to correct this, you continue with your lameness.

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  704. Vlad Krandz February 17, 2012 at 1:53 pm #

    Wage, quick – is Bayer Aspirin “between a girl’s knees” really a contraceptive?

  705. Vlad Krandz February 17, 2012 at 1:59 pm #

    For the Mikas and the Bills, no Jew has ever done anything wrong or will. They are God on Earth – collectively. The Kabbalah has a unique metaphysic – a kind of collective Advaita Vedanta, not the individual as God but the whole Jewish People. The great Masters and Rabbis are simply those who realize this thru meditation and devotion.
    No? Then why does not the, oh so reasonable Bill, never say boo to Mika no matter how vicious his hatred?
    Neither of them are into the Kabbalah, but the attitude permeates all of Judaism even the most Liberal or rational.

  706. Vlad Krandz February 17, 2012 at 2:03 pm #

    He is our Teacher in the art of hatred. My God, look at the good he’s done Prog! Even you must admit that Prog’s been advancing very nicely under his tutelage.
    I can say unequivocaly, Black Hatred helped me to become who I am today.

  707. Bustin J February 17, 2012 at 2:04 pm #

    Teggs&Bacon said, “So, just suck it up Busty, there are no Absolutes, so please, pretty please build me my 456 thousand trillion 1966 Oldsmobile Ninety Eights for me by tonight, I need a ride.”
    No absolutes, eh? Thats fighting words. 🙂
    I am an absolute. You can choose to believe in my non-existence or irrelevance, but, I stubbornly remain the incarnate rebuttal to all your solipsist beliefs.
    We are matter, and energy, but that is absurd reductionism. We are more accurately a complex of cellular organelles.
    This is important because there are other distinct life-forms that want to invade our bodies and influence our minds.
    You are something of a curious test-subject. I suspect there is perhaps a biologic basis for your illogical babbling. Congenital or not, it is “Absolutely” there, a priori, or not.
    The funniest thing about you is your rejection of logic. That basically means you are undermining not only knowledge and argument, but simple conversation. Your essential claim is that there are no claims. The circularity can be derived from practically any aspect of your epistemology (As it were).
    Your “mind-brain” took a random walk one day and never came back. Look on a milk carton- you might see your face.
    There is a cure, or at least a treatment. It involves divorcing yourself from the assumption that you are correct, and assuming that absolutes exist absolutely. A classic place to start is fundamental assumptions: the things a mind-brain has to assume before progress can be made. For example, that logic is a valid tool for interpreting reality.
    Start at your local library, I am sure there are books on logical reasoning at your local branch. If you are offered a flower by a Buddhist along the way, politely refuse. By rejecting their offers of love, you negate their theories that there is no limit to how many people one can love. There is of course a limit, in quantity and quality. This is apparent to any logical thought process. Of course, this is what a drum circle is designed to beat out of one’s brain: the logical mind. Then, Osho and his fleet of Cadillac El Dorados can do doughnuts on your frontal lobes while picking your pocket.

  708. mika. February 17, 2012 at 2:04 pm #

    Amazing that if a Jew is corrupt and/or incompetent, he’s a “scapegoat” while if it’s some other kind of Honkie, he’s evil incarnate.
    ==
    YOU are evil because you allow it to happen. Three hundred million people and you allow this sick depraved show to happen by pretending that you are blind to it. You are not blind. You are scum. Just like Kissinger, and the rest of them.

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  709. DeeJones February 17, 2012 at 2:12 pm #

    “quick – is Bayer Aspirin “between a girl’s knees” really a contraceptive?”
    Only if she holds it real tightly…..
    But, NO. Watsa matter, you done git some girl knocked up? Didn’t yur Pa tell you not to get to friendly with your couzins?
    Oh, geez, thats a thougt, little flads running around. Geez, thats some family tree that needed trimming if anything.
    😉

  710. Bustin J February 17, 2012 at 2:14 pm #

    Look at this guy’s mug.
    Needs lotion.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_%28abolitionist%29

  711. Vlad Krandz February 17, 2012 at 2:15 pm #

    Well of course since most people just mean sex and romance or at best – love of family. C.S Lewis and other have commented on the paucity of psychological terms in our language. The Greeks had four words for love – and clearly distinguished eros from sex and lust per se. There was another word for those – can’t remember it.
    Asoka is right though, theoretically. Love is important in Buddhism. The metta meditations are fundamental. And the Pure Land sects which make devotion to Amida Buddha their only practice are not seen as heretical by the Mahayana – all of which believe in later revelations given to the great Masters. In the same sense as Christianity has been called Platonism for the masses, just so Pure Land is Buddhism for the masses. Thus ordinary people who do not have the time or capacity for meditation are not left with nothing. And note – even some of the greatest Zen Masters have spoken with deep respect for Pure Land and have expressed disatisfaction with their level of attainment – and a desire to be reborn in Amida’s Pure Land so that He can personally guide them to completion.

  712. Vlad Krandz February 17, 2012 at 2:20 pm #

    Amazing about King Tut, eh? That he (and many of the Pharoahs) were Northern Europeans and not “Africans” like in your fantasy? You must have a thing for Black men.

  713. Vlad Krandz February 17, 2012 at 2:23 pm #

    Mika he got you. You’re defeated, just admit it. You’re just making yourself look ridiculous.

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  714. Bustin J February 17, 2012 at 2:26 pm #

    AS said “And whats with the downward mobility of black males?
    1/2 are unemployed
    1/2 are HS drop outs
    1 in 4 is a felon.
    So many have a rap sheet or are juvenile offenders.”
    Perhaps the association with a microscopic parasite?
    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/03/how-your-cat-is-making-you-crazy/8873/2/

  715. Bustin J February 17, 2012 at 2:31 pm #

    http://www.protectyourtexasborder.com/Frontline.aspx
    Interesting.
    La Reconquista is flaring up. Hopefully no one will take a pot-shot at our resident mud-brick builder. It might reduce the number of people he can love.

  716. Vlad Krandz February 17, 2012 at 2:42 pm #

    “Individual” huh? Little bit of Lockean social theory there you might want to look at. During the Enlightenment, everyone was going on about the social contract and how “individuals” decided to leave their nasty solitude because social life offered benefits. And then the romantics reacted saying that society was corrupt and that individuals were fine and we needed to start over again – hmm, sounds like Libertarianism?
    We know now that all of this was nonsense: people didn’t make any such choice; life may have been nasty, brutal, and short but it was never isolated. People always lived in groups and society advanced in groups. Sometimes a person may have been ahead of his time and sought out relative isolation to think or pray of course. But even the hermits of the Egyptian Desert ultimately formed large communities as more and more of them did the same thing – and helped create a new Civilization just as the Monks of Europe did a bit later.
    And in Buddhism, the flavor of the day – from memory: Ananda said, “Lord, the Sangha (community) is an important part then in our following the Path? Buddha, “Say not so Ananda, say not so. The Sangha is not a part of Path, it is the Path.”

  717. k-dog February 17, 2012 at 2:44 pm #

    I’m not an expert in the details of border crossing but it occurs to me that you may have a point.
    All sorts of people are living and in working from all sorts of places in Seattle. Europeans and Asians of all types. They don’t speak much but the accents are thick like new arrivals would have when they do and there seem to be more than there used to be.
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Could some of these dogs have no papers and nobody care?
    Meanwhile state unemployment is high and outsourcing of engineering jobs has increased 11% in the last five years so wages in the engineering field drop like a rock in the ‘R-E-C-O-V-E-R-Y’.
    Maybe taking out that loan to get through school is not such a good idea when you have to go to Chengdu to get the job. Oh that’s right you don’t know Mandarin and you want more than $500 a month. Sorry, you get $0 dollars a month, sucks to be you.
    Too bad on wasting four years of your life. Win some loose some you know. That’s how the cookie crumbles.
    Now the above doesn’t apply to me. K-dog is old enough to be responsible for his own education and I’m at a different point in my life. But I understand it might suck to be you out there, being played and all. It is enough to make one angry.
    ************************************************
    It’s not fair that corporate citizens have automatic dual citizenship and real people don’t, it really isn’t. All the benefit and none of the responsibility.

    Do you really want to vote for more of the same?

  718. Vlad Krandz February 17, 2012 at 2:51 pm #

    Say not so Liberator, say not so. Just as a single Baboon is easy prey for a leopard or hyenas but a whole troop can defend themselves, so isolated individual Whites are easily displaced by ethnes that cooperate together.
    Or why do Muslims in Nigeria do better than Christians? Cooperation. And it has been the secret of the Jewish Businesman – low or no interest loans to each other while gouging the gentile.
    See the paradox? As Christ said, “He who lays down his life will save it”. The less individualistic the way of life is, the more individuals benefit. Within limits of course. I know the other side of all this too. Lack of rights, stifling social mores etc. I merely call for balance and/or living among our own again where we don’t have to compete with groups with this kind of advantage.

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  719. Vlad Krandz February 17, 2012 at 2:55 pm #

    Any stray without a license must go to the Pound. Do not pass Go, vote, or collect. Shall we put them down? Naw, just return them to their owners with a chip and a warning. If they come back again, they go down.

  720. Bustin J February 17, 2012 at 2:59 pm #

    A Guaranteed Minimum Income Rights Act would provide a subsistence cash benefit to all American citizens who qualify.
    This monthly cash assistance would provide enough money to rent an apartment or room, pay for food and basic utilities, and health insurance.
    It would replace welfare, medicare, medicaid, the FHA, and all the other boon-doogle programs currently bankrupting the nation.
    If the G-MIRA is established as a constitutional right, it would cost approximately 5% of annual GDP, however, with the displacement of costs toward preventable health problems, homelessness, and hunger, it would probably result in nothing less than the replenishment of possibility in America.
    It would mean that anyone who didn’t want to work wouldn’t have to, and no one would have to be homeless or go hungry. It would be a right, and no longer subject to corrosive public shame about “entitlements”. It would project the message that a citizen’s well-being and quality of life are important to the health of the nation, and an accomplishment to be proud of.
    No longer would someone be compelled by economics alone to join the military, or work for barely-subsistence level wages in undesirable jobs.
    This is much, much more important than landing a man on the moon as it would stimulate a renaissance in American cultural and civic life. No longer would people be hounded into submission by the machination of an economic system perpetrated by oligarchy. Millions of people’s productive capacity would be liberated to improve their lives, gain an education, explore self-improvement, become politically active, and be healthier and happier.
    Goodness is an absolute. Its time America realised what quality of life is worth, what realising higher principles really means. Lets give people the breathing room they need from the rapacious capitalism that defines our lives and has given rise to extreme stratification, depredation, and strife.
    We can either reform the government’s ‘welfare’ system, making it fair, proactive, and effective, or the pols can take that 5% of GDP and waste it on the existing unfair and ineffective policies.
    This is truly a good idea, and something worth fighting for. No one I’ve talked to thought it was a bad idea. It is a clear winner, because it is something that benefits people directly. About half of Americans are currently struggling and their participation is in jeopardy. It is in no one’s interest to scrub rich people’s toilets for minimum wage, least of all the people forced to do it.
    There is broad base of potential benefactors and this issue is a wedge that the mass of people can get behind.
    Martin Luther King Jr. would have gotten nowhere if he had merely pushed for “jobs” in his protests. We have to fight for “Rights”. That is the only way forward in this country.

  721. DeeJones February 17, 2012 at 3:04 pm #

    “Amazing about King Tut, eh? That he (and many of the Pharoahs) were Northern Europeans and not “Africans” like in your fantasy? ”
    You got it backasswards, as usual. The N. Europeans were of Egyptian decent, and boy, what a decent.
    While the Egyptians were finishing off some more Pyramids, the Druids were just learning how to stack small stones on top of bigger stones.
    But they still thought mud was pretty cool.
    You do know that the Celts were of Egyptian lineage, don’t you? And they taught the others how to put small stones on top of big ones, and to get the fuck outta the mud, thank you very much.
    😉
    And please, please, don’t breed. The child won’t be ‘right’, if you know what i mean….

  722. desg206f9 February 17, 2012 at 3:36 pm #

    Consider their role in pho noodle soup: The ubiquitous national dish of Vietnam depends on the last-minute addition of herbs, without which the flavors would seem off and the dining experience would feel incomplete.

    Heady beef pho, redolent of star anise and cinnamon, benefits from the bright notes of chopped cilantro that the cook sprinkles atop the hot broth right before the bowl leaves the kitchen. Then at the table, there are more herbs involved as diners add their personal touches with torn leaves of Thai basil, culantro or mint; dropping in extra herbs while working toward the bottom of the bowl is fine too.

    Fresh herbs are integral to the layering of flavors in Vietnamese cuisine, as well as the “have it your way” Vietnamese dining philosophy.

    Aside from contributing to the symphony of flavors in the mouth, some fresh herbs aid digestion, while others are Vietnamese folk remedies for fever, colds and headaches. When you combine the herbs with chiles, spices and aromatics such as ginger, galangal and turmeric, which all boast their own health benefits, you have a potent phytochemical mix.

    When my family settled in Southern California in 1975,le louis vuitton, the only herbs we recognized at the supermarket were cilantro, mint and the occasional sprig of dill. That worked OK because cilantro and mint are the herbs used most often in the Vietnamese repertoire.

    My family of seven went through a couple of bunches a week for salads, soups and rice paper rolls. When dill was available, the feathery tops were used for favorites such as canh rieu ca, a traditional everyday soup featuring fish, tomato and a final flourish of raw garlic and dill.

    Today, with Southern California’s robust Vietnamese American community and increased interest in ethnic cooking, the variety of herbs available here includes all the major ones traditionally and currently enjoyed in Vietnam. Between now and late fall, Vietnamese and Chinese markets are flush with herbs.

    For a culinary adventure, go to one of Orange County’s Little Saigon markets on a Saturday, when the clamorous crowds and food smells recall the real Saigon. In the produce section, locate the usual suspects, cilantro and mint. Nearby, you might see bunches of a spicy mint called hung cay (Mentha x. gracilis) whose delicate, round-shaped leaves belie their eye-popping flavor.

    Equally bracing are the spade-shaped leaves of fish mint (Vietnamese name diep ca, botanical name Houttuynia cordata), also called bishop’s weed, which give a tangy, pungent edge to boldly flavored food such as grilled beef with lemon grass. Cilantro lovers will revel in spear-shaped Vietnamese coriander (rau ram, Polygonum odoratum), which lends its peppery cilantro backbite to Vietnamese soups and salads; rau ram is also popular in other Southeast Asian countries, particularly Malaysia and Singapore, where it is called daun kesom and daun laksa.

  723. iesaeff1126h February 17, 2012 at 3:49 pm #

    ,louis vuitton borse
    Joe Francis
    — the mastermind behind “Girls Gone Wild” — is sending Madonna a cease and desist letter, threatening that he’ll take legal action if she sings the song from her new album — titled “Girls Gone Wild” — at the Super Bowl.

    TMZ has obtained the letter that Francis has sent to Madonna and her “co-conspirators.”  Francis’ lawyer threatens to sue all of them for attempting to get a “free ride on the valuable consumer goodwill and brand recognition” of Joe’s famous trademark.

    Francis’ lawyer makes it clear:  “Your misappropriation of my clients’ trademark will not be tolerated.”

    But Francis is willing to cut a deal with Madonna, provided she agrees to the following terms:

    — Negotiate an immediate licensing agreement for the use of Joe’s trademark
    — Account for the number of times Madonna has already used the trademark
    NOT PERFORM THE SONG AT THE SUPER BOWL

    Joe thinks NBC and the NFL are conspiring with Madonna, so the letter went to them as well.

    Joe’s lawyer is demanding a response by 5 PM PT today … or else.

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  724. k-dog February 17, 2012 at 4:01 pm #

    But we have no dogcatcher. What shall we do, learn Mandarin?

  725. h7m1s7g1 February 17, 2012 at 4:11 pm #

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  726. k-dog February 17, 2012 at 4:37 pm #

    I think I got my answer. Translation, bend over and kiss your ass goodbye.

  727. Buck Stud February 17, 2012 at 4:40 pm #

    Below is Kenny Rodgers before a facelift:
    http://inyourface.ocregister.com/files/2008/10/kenny-rogers-1989-age-51-300p.jpg
    And after the facelift
    http://www.celebrityworthlist.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/footershare/kenny-rogers-before-after-plastic-surgery.jpg
    Lotion or not, John Brown is much more visually dignified than “Kenny Who” any day of the week.

  728. k-dog February 17, 2012 at 4:51 pm #

    That sure looks like a no bullshit kind of guy to me.
    And from the article on the same page.
    Dissatisfied with the pacifism encouraged by the organized abolitionist movement, he reportedly said, “These men are all talk. What we need is action—action!”
    If this is the kind of JB moment JHK is talking about. I agree.

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  729. Buck Stud February 17, 2012 at 4:51 pm #

    A bona-fide sage post Bustin!

  730. Pucker February 17, 2012 at 4:59 pm #

    Buddhism may be somewhat outdated in modern industrialized society? Buddhism is correct in its precept that Life is Suffering (which is basically mystical existentialism, i.e., human anxiety arising out of desire and fear of loss of the craved object), but the Buddha in his time could never have forseen how Modern Materialism and its political manifestations (Capitalism, Communism, Fascism) have used material desire (lust for power, money, conquest, domination, acquisitiveness) to the extreme.
    In other words, modern industrial society is Suffering on Steroids, to use that clique. In the Buddha’s time, people and society existed in a generalized state of suffering (anxiety), but now in the current, overly-complex, hyper-anxious globalized society, people and societies have gone MAD! People are absolutely FUCKING NUTS!
    I’m wondering whether one could establish a Buddhist sect similar to the Shaolin Buddhists wherein the monks, in addition to meditation, reciting mantras, learning martial arts (Kung Fu) and archery (like the Buddhists in Butan), would also learn to master the assault rifle, purely for defense, of course?

  731. anti soak February 17, 2012 at 5:00 pm #

    I did take a glance at it.
    Reminds me of Hulga Clarks ‘Cure for all Cancers’
    and recent [1990s or later] discovery of link
    of Ulcers and H Pylori.

  732. k-dog February 17, 2012 at 5:03 pm #

    A sage post or more glorification of the cult of unearned riches? That which brings people together k-dog supports. That which drives people apart k-dog scorns. Isn’t giving a segment of society the right not to work and giving them free money what we have now?
    While your at it why not give everybody a pony.

  733. Pucker February 17, 2012 at 5:04 pm #

    “…to use that clique”
    Correction: “…to use that cliche…”
    “Butan”
    Correction: Bhutan.

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  734. BeantownBill February 17, 2012 at 5:47 pm #

    You have a very finely tuned ear for irony. I loved the way you turned around the argument to whites (but I’m not anti-white).
    You also stated something extremely important, IMO, that I haven’t seen before on CFN, something that took me many years before I realized it myself: That fear is the opposite of love, not hate. I’d also go a bit further, that all human emotions are variations of love and fear. Love is the creative force in the universe, but fear can be positive, too, in the sense that the original purpose of fear was to keep us safe through the fight or flight reflex.
    The import of this is that when someone hates, they are really expressing their fear. So when we have haters like Vlad, or Neworld or Anti-Soak, what are they afraid of? Why is Procon afraid of you?

  735. xhalor February 17, 2012 at 5:49 pm #

    I move that the Republicans make this their campaign theme song:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vntx1htKRQA&feature=related

  736. Mrs Beasley February 17, 2012 at 5:52 pm #

    “A Guaranteed Minimum Income Rights Act would provide a subsistence cash benefit to all American citizens who qualify.”
    How about a Guaranteed Minimum Asshole Right? You could act like an asshole once a month. With your above proposal, you’ve used up your GMA for this month. Now go away until next month, you imbecilic moron.

  737. mika. February 17, 2012 at 6:05 pm #

    Why is Procon afraid
    ==
    PC, like the rest of the privileged white pigs are afraid they might need to pack up and head back to white Europe where they came from. Seems to me it is a well founded fear given the long history of savagery abuse and theft by the white establishment.

  738. Pucker February 17, 2012 at 6:06 pm #

    Beantownbill wrote: “Love is the creative force in the universe,…”
    Isn’t Aphrodite the personification of “Love”? Or is it “Eros”? I forgot.
    In any case, I don’t think that either Aphrodite or Eros created the universe?
    Isn’t it the case that in Asian philosophy, “creation” is the product of “destruction”? (Probably also in American Indian mysticism, which may also have ancient Asian roots?). For example, Vishna – Shiva. Daoism — extremes give birth to their opposites (zou ji bi fan, in Chinese). I think that Stephen Hawking said that the universe was created out of nothing, which would appear to be confirmation of Chinese Daoism?

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  739. Pucker February 17, 2012 at 6:07 pm #

    Correction: Vishnu

  740. Vlad Krandz February 17, 2012 at 6:08 pm #

    We have countless White Men out of work – unleash them and the problem will be solved. They will hunt down the Lopez interlopers faster than you can say tralfamadore.

  741. xhalor February 17, 2012 at 6:11 pm #

    Let me see. Yes, I see that you have your original “GUARANTEE” documents. And you would like use your “GUARANTEE” to stop some free speech. Step right this way Mrs. Beasley….

  742. Vlad Krandz February 17, 2012 at 6:12 pm #

    Thank you Bill for showing your true colors. That’s all I want – for the Progs of the world to know who you and Mika are. For too long the Progs have been Troglogdytes living underground. Let them ascend into the Light and see to what use their labors have been put.

  743. Pucker February 17, 2012 at 6:12 pm #

    “Creation”, or movement of the universe is the mistake, the imbalance in the universe. We want to restore peace, calm by correcting the mistake, imbalance in the universe which has given rise to the imbalance, movement, suffering.

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  744. BeantownBill February 17, 2012 at 6:13 pm #

    Wouldn’t bore me.

  745. 8man February 17, 2012 at 6:14 pm #

    Laws of Physics
    What bugs me is not only the fact that these laws seem to appear exactly and only because we set up matter in such a way as to express mathematical relationship, but also because we impose functions upon matter, we impose causes and effects that resonate with the solution of concrete practical problems that must be solved, we impose a logic upon matter as the logic applies to us and our mind language and intentionalities and goals and such, therefore the laws of physics really are not “general” laws at all, just “happens to be” mathematical type laws as convenient patterns our Man Brain already, from the outset, from the get go, implicitly superimposes upon matter according to how we interact with matter, according to how our very arbitrary and quirky design and sense organs and functionalities interact with matter, but nothing more general or deeper than this, hence not really laws of physics, but laws of a specific Man Brain interacting with matter according to very arbitrary and specific rules accordingly.
    Case in point, technology doesn’t investigate things that have no practical use, things that are not functional to some kind of problem solutions: we will not construct a mechanical computer (but even the idea of a computer already means a function that must be performed, a problem that must be solved, matter must be configured to solve a problem, we are not experimenting with all kinds of random configurations of matter just for the fun of it, for curiosity (maybe what art does ?) but are configuring matter to make it perform a function, hence solve a problem, hence the importance of the mathematical relationships associated with the solution to the problems at hand, the measurements and the formulas that are important for us in order to reach a target, hence we measure the speed of calculations, the forces of the circuits, the currents, the relationships between leakage currents and voltages and all kinds of mathematical relationships that are important only within the framework of the solution space corresponding to the problem space) with car engines and pistons just for fun, but will create things that are optimized and functional and such.
    And such is most of all of our science: the problem space is first defined, the solution space is created, the targets and intentionalities of use are defined, and all of the mathematics and equations important within this arena are studied and then declared “laws of physics”, when they are not really, they are only laws convenient for our goals.
    What I am trying to get at is that we don’t construct irrational circuits with integrated circuits just to see what they do with no goal or function in mind: heck we wouldn’t even know what to measure, what to put into relationship with what else, what measurement is to be related to what other measurement if there are no goals in mind, what mathematical relationships we want to express as those relationships are then the basis for navigating towards a clear cut target and function and goal based sequence of steps.
    But that is what we should do: design the craziest circuits possible and contraptions possible and study them (but then, the very idea of studying them doesn’t seem to make any sense any more since studying them would mean finding significant relationships, but the significant relationships only exist within an ideology so to say, a clear cut reference system of goals and activities and causes and effects and logics, a language, a sequence of symbols already defined even before the studying is performed). Kind of like what measurements, signals, quantities do you want to put into a relationship with what other measurements ? which two variables do you want to relate and hence discover the “mathematical relationship” of ? without any clear cut goals and targets, any two or three or anything can be put into a relationship with anything else, and maybe some of them will be mathematical relatioships (others simply invented symbolic relationships or invented relationships), most will be unrelated, and many will be very chaotically and statistically related and such, hence the laws of physics are really the laws that we want physics to express according to our goals, the mathematical relationships that we discover are really the relationships that we want matter to express as they resonate with some specific functions and goals we have in mind.
    Build crazy contraptions, crazy configurations of matter, study them, or pretend to study them, invent relationships, even if they are “false”, have fun, this too is real science, is the creation of ever new laws of physics…
    Millions of random analog circuits on chips all interacting in crazy ways, huge complex mechanical engines with trillions of complex moving parts doing all kinds of weird things, all the possible configurations of matter, matter without the prison of function, matter as free to express itself in ever more new combinations, no longer under the dictatorship of goals, targets and functions as imposed by the Ape Man Man Brain…

  746. Vlad Krandz February 17, 2012 at 6:16 pm #

    No that’s gnosticism or at least the bad kind that says the Universe was a mistake. God creates because He/She is creative – just as an Ocean produces waves without being limited or defined by those waves.
    We are very strong on the Brahma and Shiva aspects of creation and destruction here in America. But very weak on the Vishnu aspect of preservation.

  747. 8man February 17, 2012 at 6:32 pm #

    That was from:
    http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=178178
    Please Study it all very carefully.
    Thank You. You’re Welcome.
    Shpeck a Lak, Jobster Lobster, Apster, Shpac a lach , shlac a lac , sgpec a spke Jobster lobster, apster, apster man…

  748. Vlad Krandz February 17, 2012 at 6:41 pm #

    There were Whites in Egypt and Whites in Northern Europe? Follow? The ones in Egypt were more advanced. Northern Europeans of Egyptian descent? As in Black? Boy are you a goof. There’s no anthropolgical evidence of that.
    There’s an old story of one of the Pharoah’s daughter becoming a Queen in Ireland. That’s entirely possible if that’s where you’re getting this from. But they were all White in the upper class at that point, or at least dark skinned Caucasian. And there’s no evidence of a mass migration of Egyptain Whites to the British Isles. Some of the Celts came from Gaul and some from Iberia. Other people may have come from Scandanavia like the Vikings.
    In Wallis Budge’s preface to his “Gods of the Egyptians” he put to rest the idea that they were Black. Check it out sometime.

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  749. Buck Stud February 17, 2012 at 6:46 pm #

    KDog,
    Bustin was talking about consolidation, among other things. His post is very clear and succinct so it makes more sense to refer back to his original post – honestly.
    And speaking of honesty, look how you portray the basic necessities of life which Bustin was refering to:
    ” more glorification of the cult of unearned riches”
    A basic roof over one’s head, food, health care are now the “cult of unearned riches”? Limbaugh, Hannity and Gingrich couldn’t have twisted it any better.
    The way you mangled Bustin’s post suggest a very promising career in politics. But I’m going to have to pass.

  750. Qshtik February 17, 2012 at 6:56 pm #

    Nymphomaniac Convention
    A man boarded an airplane and took his seat. As he settled in, he glanced up and saw the most beautiful woman boarding the plane.. He soon realized she was heading straight towards his seat.. As fate would have it, she took the seat right beside his.. Eager to strike up a conversation he blurted out, “Business trip or pleasure?” She turned, smiled and said, “Business. I’m going to the Annual Nymphomaniacs of America Convention in Boston.” He swallowed hard. Here was the most gorgeous woman he had ever seen sitting next to him, and she was going to a meeting of nymphomaniacs. Struggling to maintain his composure, he calmly asked, “What’s your business role at this convention?” “Lecturer,” she responded. “I use information that I have learned from my personal experiences to debunk some of the popular myths about sexuality.” “Really?” he said. “And what kind of myths are there?” “Well,” she explained, “one popular myth is that African-American men are the most well-endowed of all men, when in fact it is the Native American Indian who is most likely to possess that trait. Another popular myth is that Frenchmen are the best lovers, when actually it is men of Jewish descent who are the best. I have also discovered that the lover with absolutely the best stamina is the Southern Redneck.” Suddenly the woman became a little uncomfortable and blushed. “I’m sorry,” she said, “I shouldn’t really be discussing all of this with you. I don’t even know your name..” “Tonto,” the man said, “Tonto Goldstein, but my friends call me Bubba.”

  751. progress2conserve February 17, 2012 at 6:58 pm #

    “Why is Procon afraid of you?”
    -btb-
    Bill, I think you are garbling up the definitions and antonyms of love, hate, and fear. You might want to back up a bit before this gets more out of hand.
    Asoka. claims to be multitudes – at any one time he is a Sufi Muslim, a Jew, a Christian, and an atheist – and now a loving-out-of-control-Buddhist.
    I suggest to you that anyone who is not enraged by that sort of drifting search for argument on CFN has a screw loose.
    And, as you said just last week, asoka. is “fascinatingly contrary.” Does that mean you love him, hate him, or fear him?
    =================
    In addition, by your use of terms, I may be beginning to fear you and Mika – because this double teaming is really starting to piss me off.
    Mika especially – you’re starting to sound like some sort of deranged CFN parrot:
    GO BACK TO EUROPE!
    GO BACK TO EUROPE!
    BWAAAAKKK!
    MIKA WANT A CRACKER*!
    GO BACK TO EUROPE!
    *Cracker = Potential Racial Slur

  752. Pucker February 17, 2012 at 7:08 pm #

    Westerners seem to have this fixation with “Love”. Perhaps this is a Christian phenomenon, e.g.,the Madonna and the baby Jesus motif in Catholic churchs?
    Love is an emotion, which, by definition, contains with in it the seed of Hate since Love only has meaning by reference to its opposite Hate.
    From the Christian perspective, one does not kill because one “loves thy neighbor”. This conception is flawed because Love inherently contains the potential of Hate, or killing.
    From the Buddhist perspective, one would simply be incapable of hating, or killing, because one’s mind would be calm, or detached. However, I assume that even one whose mind is calm and detached could perhaps kill, but the act of killing would simply be a matter of pure practical necessity and self-defense, rather than driven by hate, greed, jealousy, love or some other emotion.

  753. mika. February 17, 2012 at 7:31 pm #

    Looks like I struck a nerve, PC. That’s because you know I’m telling the truth. You’ll be packing soon. And Vlad too. Patriotic my ass. LOL!

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  754. progress2conserve February 17, 2012 at 7:34 pm #

    “The new white poor are the welfare queens of 2012.”
    -asoka, with words that will win praise from BTB-
    Goddam’ it Bill. Go back and read that post from asoka. that you are praising so much. It’s just pure asoka. Simpering, preening, and spoiling for a fight – same as he always does on here to fuck up the dialog!
    He picks on po’ white trash because they/we represent the dominant culture on CFN that will give him an argument.
    Now –
    Go back and reread that post of asoka’s.
    Except substitute the word JEW –
    You do it and substitute the word JEW every single time that asoka. in that post says “white.”
    And then you come back on here and tell me you think the opposite of love is fear.
    Try it.

  755. Vlad Krandz February 17, 2012 at 7:44 pm #

    Pat Buchanan out at MSNBC. Blacks, Leftists, and Jews finally managed to get him fired. Meanwhile on the “Right”, the Judge has been fired from Fox News for talking to much about the NDAA. The screws are tightening. We’re losing.
    What was Buchanan’s crime? Talking about the death of White America and the destruction of Christianity – telling the Truth in other words. Also Foxman didn’t like him saying that American Jews were declining in population – and that it was their choice since they weren’t having many children. Whose fault is it then – the Nazis? Catholics? Fox News? As always, Foxman is insane.
    http://www.creators.com/conservative/pat-buchanan.html

  756. progress2conserve February 17, 2012 at 7:49 pm #

    “You’ll be packing soon.”
    -mika-
    You’re an argumentative idiot, Mika.
    Let’s review. There are three, and only reasons to be in favor of high rates of legal and illegal immigration into the United States:
    1. Economic growth on a planet that is already overgrown.
    2. Moral Platitudes
    3. Ethnic entertainment and dining opportunities.
    “You’ll be packing soon,” is based on a moral platitude – everyone in the US is an immigrant, therefore no one in the US has a right to express a NEGATIVE view on immigration.
    ======================
    GO BACK TO EUROPE!
    GO BACK TO EUROPE!
    BWAAAKKK!
    MIKA HATES CRACKERS!
    GO BACK TO EUROPE!
    ——————–
    And Mika has a 4th reason to favor immigration that swamps the US and finally renders it impotent on the world stage.
    Don’t you?

  757. Vlad Krandz February 17, 2012 at 7:50 pm #

    Puck no. The Metta meditations were in Buddhism from the begining. And are still practiced in the Theravada and Mahayana. It is all very “cool” as compared to the “hot” love of Islam and Christianity. Buddhism emphasizes Wisdom and Christianity, Love. But they are the two wings of Enlightenment.

  758. Vlad Krandz February 17, 2012 at 7:56 pm #

    One more thing: they would agree with you about ordinary love just being the opposite of hate. But they claim there is a higher love that is not an emotion at all. All Spiritual Traditions are unanimous about this.

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  759. Pucker February 17, 2012 at 7:56 pm #

    To be quite honest, if I were one of those few remaining indigenous tribal people living in the Amazon jungle, I don’t think that I’d want some CRAZY Westerner Fucker LOVE’n my ass!
    I rather not have some Westerner missionary type with a big ego show’n up and in some self-righteousness delusional state of mind try to forceably hold my head under water try’n to “save” my ass. Those FUCKERS are crazy! No “Operation Iraqi Freedom” for me. I don’t need the “micro-credit loans” that Obama’s mother and other “economic hit men” were pushing on the Indonesian villagers to get them into debt. No thanks!

  760. Pucker February 17, 2012 at 8:00 pm #

    And don’t try to sell me a bloody T.V., a McMansion, or a you-know-what,gas-guzzling car!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Go away!!!!!

  761. Vlad Krandz February 17, 2012 at 8:01 pm #

    If there were two Muslims on this site, they would act just like Bill and Mika – and never disagree about anything. This kind of collusion is why the Masons were so feared and hated – and why Semites, be they Jew or Muslim, are such a problem for the West.
    Arab Christians make a good adjustment in contrast.

  762. progress2conserve February 17, 2012 at 8:07 pm #

    “…a higher love that is not an emotion at all. All Spiritual Traditions are unanimous about this”
    -vlad-
    That is true. And upon leaving the body and entering the spiritual plane – that Truth becomes unarguable. Either that or we become plain old dead meat.
    How is is possible for asoka., an atheist, to roil the CFN waters and win praise – for arguing a Spiritual Truth?
    a dead atheist is dead meat, right?
    not much love there.
    just decay, odor, and slowly recycling nutrients
    Nutrients can be considered love, of course.
    But that’s not what all this fuss is about.

  763. mika. February 17, 2012 at 8:10 pm #

    You’re an argumentative idiot, Mika.
    ==
    Yeah, I’ve definitely struck a nerve. Good!

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  764. Pucker February 17, 2012 at 8:11 pm #

    You’ve basically given Love a different meaning by biferating Love into “Cool Love” versus “Hot Love”. As our former President Bill Clinton would say: “It depends upon what the definition of “Is” is.”
    You just done a bait-and-switch, straw man thingy.
    To prove your argument regarding Love, you’ve given Love a more convenient definition. But,no matter how you slice it, the Buddha don’t cop to no Western definition of “Love”. The Buddha don’t want no messy Love’n (“HOT LOVE”).

  765. progress2conserve February 17, 2012 at 8:24 pm #

    “Yeah, I’ve definitely struck a nerve. Good!”
    -mika-
    Yeah, OK, whatever.
    500,000,000 in the US is what we shall have, then.
    Bill needs to consider the possibility that you Mika/Met/Cohen, are somebody’s caricature of a Jewish Israeli. Ozone thinks you and Vlad are the same poster, already.
    Similarly, asoka. is definitely somebody’s caricature of an elderly black man – because he is neither elderly nor black, based on generally observable characteristics.

  766. k-dog February 17, 2012 at 8:43 pm #

    But how can we have a John Brown moment without a John Brown?
    We need a BAM to step up.

  767. Pucker February 17, 2012 at 9:10 pm #

    ‘…somebody’s caricature of an elderly black man….”
    “Morn’n Miss Daisy!”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I5MkrMzAs8

  768. progress2conserve February 17, 2012 at 9:13 pm #

    “OK…’greed, acquisitiveness, and desires’ ARE UNIVERSAL! They are not ‘produced by American Free Market Capitalism’ end quote.” -antiS-
    AntiS, normally I refer to this as “American STYLE Free Market Capitalism.” I left out the “Style,” and it threw you off.
    But yeah, the US created this consumerist monster, starting back just after WWII. Now it’s spread world wide.
    Mostly, we in the US get credit for a desire for frantic consumerism – and for Hollywood-style entertainment, worldwide.
    We may not like it, but those are the facts.
    That’s why “they say” all those Mexicans in “The Other Side of Immigration,” abandoned their fields. They came North to get money for the 1000 Mile Salad Bar, HVAC, and Mickey Mouse.
    Ain’t pretty, is it?
    But there it is.

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  769. mika. February 17, 2012 at 9:19 pm #

    500,000,000 in the US
    ==
    Yep, soon your gated apartheid townships will be overrun and you’ll be packing. Vlad even sooner.

  770. progress2conserve February 17, 2012 at 9:33 pm #

    “Yep, soon your gated apartheid townships will be overrun and you’ll be packing…”
    -mika-
    Let’s see, Bill agrees with asoka that I’m “fat fearful White Trash sitting on the couch and collecting welfare.” (a accurate amalgam)
    You, Mika, think I live in a “gated apartheid township*.” You two boys need to get together at the Secret Jewish Meeting and get your stories straight.
    *BTW, is that where you live in Israel, Mika? That’s my understanding – according to the book by Jimmy Carter, “Peace, Not Gated Apartheid.”

  771. Pucker February 17, 2012 at 9:36 pm #

    [“Driving Miss Daisy, Part II”]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8p2NF0nFyo

  772. k-dog February 17, 2012 at 9:41 pm #

    BadAssMotherfucker in case you were wondering.

  773. Qshtik February 17, 2012 at 9:44 pm #

    Vlad, what do you know about this rumor my kid heard… that Whitney Huston might be buried in Arlington Cemetery and that a bill has been introduced to declare her B-Day a national holiday? I figured if anyone would have the straight scoop it would be you.
    ;o)

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  774. Bustin J February 17, 2012 at 9:54 pm #

    JHK comments on Max Keiser’s about why the American electorate isn’t up in arms after repeatedly being kicked in the currency. His explanation that modern people are just too awash with distraction and harried from being driven to consume is certainly true.
    If we were freed from wondering if we would lose our jobs, go homeless, and never find work again, we might become politically active. Such a volatile situation is not preferable by the status quo.
    All Americans have to do is ask for it and then demand it. A guaranteed subsistence income, as a right of citizenship.
    Some offhand stats I’ve heard in years past I tend to consider pure cotton are the figures of 14% that are literate on current political events. Even the 14% of people who are reasonably well-informed can’t all be expected to understand things. For example, when experts talk about the economy, to most people, it may as well be Greek.
    We must trust experts in order to live. News media tends to invite the listener to “form their own opinion”. Yet a layman can’t form qualified opinions about things they don’t understand- but don’t tell them that. They have already decided that they are entitled to one.

  775. progress2conserve February 17, 2012 at 10:03 pm #

    (aN accurate amalgam OF THE QUOTE)

  776. mika. February 17, 2012 at 10:04 pm #

    according to the book by Jimmy Carter
    ==
    Yes, I’m familiar with Mr Jimmy’s (Council on Foreign Relations) religious beliefs.

  777. xhalor February 17, 2012 at 10:23 pm #

    Ladies and Gentlemen,
    The Sadistic Mika Band…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uIzWjbdDMQ&feature=related

  778. BeantownBill February 17, 2012 at 10:27 pm #

    Procon, you really ought to get it under control with your anger. Let me address some of your concerns. First, I praised Asoka for his irony. Surely you understand irony, right? It wasn’t the contents I was praising.
    Second, re keeping quiet about Mika: Vlad always asks me why I never yell at him, so this evening I thought about that. Unless he advocates for the most egregious forms of human behavior, like mass murder by extermination, or something else at that level, I won’t disagree with him because I’m afraid.
    I’m afraid that my people are under attack here on CFN by rapacious haters (not you), i.e., by those I mentioned in my above post. I believe, although Jews are not perfect – just like any other group – they shouldn’t be the target of unfair accusations, inaccurate history and

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  779. Qshtik February 17, 2012 at 10:32 pm #

    I’m watching the Knicks game (Linsanity). I heard Clyde (Walt Frazier) announcer utilize the word utilize and I asked myself why would anyone utilize the word utilize when they could simply utilize the word use?
    Any thoughts?

  780. mika. February 17, 2012 at 10:33 pm #

    We must trust experts in order to live.
    ==
    Why? Why can’t we simplify our living?

  781. Mannes February 17, 2012 at 10:40 pm #

    The Greek should have told the Germans and the rest of the Europeans to screw themselves, leave the Euro zone and default on their loans. It would mean that they’d no longer get IMF support etc. and they would have to stand on their own two feet. Sooner or later they’ll have to do that anyway, but why make the bankers richer in the process?

  782. xhalor February 17, 2012 at 10:48 pm #

    Hi Bill,
    Always good to talk to you. You know, compliance IS the fast train to Zapfendorf. I’m pretty sure that we don’t want to do that again.

  783. asoka. February 17, 2012 at 10:48 pm #

    Hi, Qshtik! Glad you are enjoying the game.
    RE: utilize and use, the only thing that occurs to me is that use has, perhaps, a subtle connotation of using up something, until it is finished, whereas utilize is using something without finishing it, more as an instrumental method or technique.
    I utilize math to solve a problem in classical physics, but I don’t use up math. Math is a means of accomplishing a goal and it still exists after I finish utilizing it.
    I use green beans to prepare my favorite dish, and once I eat the green beans they are gone, used up. I don’t utilize green beans to make my favorite dish because they cannot be utilized again, because they no longer exist when I’m wiping my mouth with a napkin and excusing myself from the table to go watch a game.
    See the subtle difference between use and utilize?

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  784. Bustin J February 17, 2012 at 10:53 pm #

    Mrs Beastly said “With your above proposal, you’ve used up your GMA for this month.”
    The people will have the last word, but, no one I’ve talked to about it (G-MIRA) thinks its a bad idea.
    I’ve always been suspicious of the “moral hazard” defense. “Moral Hazard” was used as the conservative objection to a host of similar reforms, and to welfare, broadly.
    Welfare “benefits” should be abolished- and replaced with a subsistence right. Anyone and everyone should be allowed to do nothing if they so choose.
    K-dawg said “All sorts of people are living and in working from all sorts of places in Seattle. Europeans and Asians of all types. They don’t speak much but the accents are thick like new arrivals would have when they do and there seem to be more than there used to be. ”
    There sure is, isn’t there? They are here and lovin it like a MCDonald’s ad. Corporations and mainstream capitalists love them because they embody status quo attitudes: keeping their head down and working. That is approved of because it is the highest value capitalism considers in a human being.
    And, of course, it is another stick to use on the working class. They keep us tired, bored, sick, desperate, and finally, they use us up like an old Kleenex and flush us down the drain.
    Capitalism in America has to be beaten into submission. No amount of Pacifism or Love is going to overcome this thing. MLK won because he fought for a right, but there was also a large groundswell of violent protest.
    It is almost guaranteed- because the corporate state will not come to the negotiating table with good intentions. They will come with their ‘roided up army of conformist thugs.

  785. mika. February 17, 2012 at 11:00 pm #

    Bill,
    You’ll notice that no matter what, the game is always set up “heads I win and tails you lose”. So if, for example, Jews intermarried, well then they are no longer Jews and therefore undeserving of their ancient homeland. If Jews do not intermarry, well then they are racists and their national homeland is an apartheid state that should be abolished. Either way, the game is set to destroy the Jews. And nevermind the constant double standard that is applied against Jews.
    These blood vultures have been playing at this for a very long time. I’m just having a little fun turning the tables on these devils. Though everything I say is true, and they know it.

  786. asoka. February 17, 2012 at 11:08 pm #

    No amount of Pacifism or Love is going to overcome this thing. — Bustin J
    ——————
    The time has come, or is about to come,
    when only large-scale civil disobedience,
    which should be nonviolent,
    can save the populations from the universal death
    which their governments are preparing for them.
    For love of domination we must substitute equality;
    for love of victory we must substitute justice;
    for brutality we must substitute intelligence;
    for competition we must substitute cooperation.
    We must learn to think of the human race as one family.
    — Bertrand Russell
    —————————-
    Nonviolent resistance has brought down dictators. If the 99% (which includes police and military) go on strike, there is nothing a dictator can do.
    Most recently, against the XL Pipeline, Bill McKibben and 350.org used nonviolent civil disobedience to turn the tide against the pipeline, forcing Obama reject plans for its immediate construction.

  787. asoka. February 17, 2012 at 11:12 pm #

    FORMATTING CORRECTION
    Most recently, against the XL Pipeline, Bill McKibben and 350.org used nonviolent civil disobedience to turn the tide against the pipeline, forcing Obama reject plans for its immediate construction.

  788. BeantownBill February 17, 2012 at 11:14 pm #

    I accidently clicked on the submit button before I was done posting.
    To continue: …inaccurate history and excessive scorn. I’m afraid that if this is the way it is for Jews on a supposedly open-minded board, then it must be infinitely worse in the outside world. You cannot understand the pain that this causes me. Hell, I just want to be me, not wanting to interfere in other people’s lives, just wanting to live my own life and bother no one. But I’m attacked for being a member of a group, a group that contains my extended family and many friends.
    Mika is angry and I don’t blame him. I don’t agree with everything he says. I don’t always appreciate his vociferousness, but I will defend him to the death, for he is a member of my tribe, a tribe that is constantly being put down. The basic reason behind his anger – well, I agree with it.
    You’re not fat, white trash, Procon. I’ve always had a pretty good dialogue with you. You seem to be curious and open to look at other viewpoints. And I’ve never said anything bad about you.
    As far as Asoka is concerned, you don’t understand him at all. You don’t seem to get past his words most of the time. The man is simply contrary, and will almost always take the other side, even sacrificing consistency to do so. Maybe he maddens you because of your logical mind. To get value out of Asoka, use him as a devil’s advocate to see the other side. You don’t have to agree with him. And yes, he still has a lot of anger. But it’s justified. Maybe his own lifepath is to work to get past that.
    And finally, in the matter of love and fear, I’ve spent a good deal of my life trying to understand the human mind. After an extraordinary amount of work, I, myself, came to the conclusion that love and fear are the basis for all the other emotions. I would suggest, if I may, that you read books on self-development and emotional maturity. I’m not trying to say you are emotionally immature or anything else about your character, I’m just saying, to further your knowledge, it might be a good idea to get into these subjects.
    As a postscript, I am concerned about Vlad’s growing influence on you. He is like the devil, he’s preaching reasonableness while spouting hate, and he is a dangerous person. I picture you in bed at night, in the dark, and you very faintly, in a whisper, hear, “Luke, Luke this is your father. Join me on the dark side. You don’t know what it will do for you.” Speaking about having a screw loose, isn’t it screwy that the man purports to be a white supremicist buddhist?

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  789. BeantownBill February 17, 2012 at 11:17 pm #

    Yeah, I agree, but not necessarily about everyone on CFN.

  790. xhalor February 17, 2012 at 11:21 pm #

    I’ts only a game to you because you’re not really in it. It’s only now that we have come to realize the importance of the crotch that you have been pulled out of.

  791. mika. February 17, 2012 at 11:22 pm #

    Capitalism in America has to be beaten into submission.
    ==
    Capitalism is just feudalism in a slightly muted form. It has to be killed. You do that by following the money.

  792. BeantownBill February 17, 2012 at 11:24 pm #

    I also agree that the whole game is set up so we can’t win – about anything Jewish. It’s not fair, but who says life is supposed to be fair? All there is, is to fight – but don’t expect to change the haters’ opinions.

  793. mika. February 17, 2012 at 11:27 pm #

    Yeah, I agree, but not necessarily about everyone on CFN.
    ==
    Of-course. Those to whom it doesn’t apply, are not bothered by what I say because it doesn’t apply to them. Those to whom it does apply, well, we know who they are because they told us, didn’t they.

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  794. progress2conserve February 17, 2012 at 11:34 pm #

    “Surely you understand irony, right?”
    -btb-
    No, Bill, us fearful stupid white trash have dictionaries that don’t have the word “irony” in them. Jeeze, Bill!
    ====================
    And Mika says things that are terribly hateful, like this Mika.ism:
    “You white fuckers are such callous swines and hypocrites it’s amazing how anybody can tolerate you traveling abroad without lynching you on the spot. It really is amazing.”
    I lost all interest in my trip to the Holy Land when I saw THAT one from Mika, I’ll tell you.
    And Mika has said – at least 10 times this week, that YOU and I, as immigrants into the US, should go back to Europe. (But you’re automatically exempt from anything Mika says, or something?)
    I keep throwing up the idea as an escape clause for you that Mika isn’t really Jewish. But because he declares himself to be Jewish on an anonymous website – you won’t challenge him on anything.
    You say that your people are under attack by NewWorld and Vlad. Well my people are under attack by asoka and Mika.
    This is how stuff gets started, you know.
    First they came for the White Trash.
    You didn’t speak because you weren’t White Trash.
    ————————–
    Vlad said something outrageous about how ALL US blacks during WWII “wanted the US to lose.” Just something stupid like that – something that I’ve been meaning to go back and challenge.
    But between all of the Joy of the Infinite Love that Is Asoka, the Buddha-Pest –
    And the repetitiveness of Mika as a Parrot:
    GO BACK TO EUROPE!
    BWAAAKK!
    GO BACK TO EUROPE!
    I’ve lost interest in challenging Vlad.
    And I’ve decided Vlad may be right after all.
    Let’s all think about that for a while.

  795. jackieblue2u February 17, 2012 at 11:35 pm #

    Let’s fight the REAL enemy and it’s not US !
    read Mark Steyn AMERICA ALONE, then read, AFTER AMERICA,
    that’s my recommendation.
    thank you

  796. BeantownBill February 17, 2012 at 11:39 pm #

    There’s something about getting things for nothing from the government that I can’t get my mind around. It just doesn’t seem natural. I’d like to see people that need help, get it. Hell, if I had the option to never work again, I’d leap at it. But my gut tells me that helping people should be voluntary, even though in the real world people apparently aren’t that generous. If this is true, then maybe the whole human race deserves to go down the shitter anyway.
    You do make a good case for your free salaries, or whatever you want to call it, but I would need a lot of convincing to overcome my objections.

  797. mika. February 17, 2012 at 11:42 pm #

    Yes, you need to GO BACK TO EUROPE! This is not your land!
    GO BACK TO EUROPE!
    GO BACK TO EUROPE!
    GO BACK TO EUROPE!

  798. Bustin J February 17, 2012 at 11:44 pm #

    BS said “Below is Kenny Rodgers before a facelift:”
    Its sad what vanity does to people.
    Teggs & Bacon said
    “1) Free Salaries to all, about 800 dollars a month since we live in an excess capacity free wealth generating economy thanks to the Technological Economy’s huge economies of scale, automations, optimizations, etc. There is no longer any excuse for any poverty except if it is explicitly desired forced and planned by old fashion Ape Man ideologies and social structures”
    Absolutely agree. $1000 a month is what I consider minimum.
    2) Cheap or Free Rents, since we have many empty houses, at least 15 million empty homes across the USA and maybe 20 million empty homes from Lisbon to Moscow in Europe; (I am assuming the readers are mostly from the USA, EU and JAPAN, but this is valid in many parts of the world anyways);
    A simple disbursement of cash is the simplest and easiest way to go. The government’s foray into complex housing instruments has been a colossal failure; FHA is about to go under. Recently they tried upping their mortgage ceiling to over $700,000.
    A simple cash disbursement allows markets to do what they do, and people should be able to rent housing. A minimum income should not be blown up into something like ‘free housing’.
    3) Huge Public Private Projects like Huge Increase of Consumerism, Millions of Skyscrapers, Rockets to Mars, High Speed Trains, You Name it, anything and everything that activates huge projects for the common good, huge collective endeavors so all have a goal and function as opposed to the fashionable “small businesses” and “startup ideology” and “be your own boss” ideology that dominates today so that everyone fights everyone else and doesn’t create collective constructions and endeavors.
    Heres where you go full retard (apologies to retards), making the soup too complicated. You are now in the realm of the planned development, the planned economy, which is another hairy beast.
    In your cross post you bleat about loving fascism. I think you’re like a broken clock- right twice a day.
    “4) It goes without saying that Nature is to be Used and Conquered and it is not a Religion or something spiritual: Man must use up all of Nature to finally achieve Mind Over Matter, the Final Symbol Over Matter War Won By Symbol aka as “KILL NATURE”.”
    This is just a bunch of dumb hyperbole, a meaningless set of phrases without truth or value.
    “I hate the Greens, Environmentalists, and most of the dominating Standard Economic Theory.”
    You have alluded to the former being the problem. Well, they are diametrically opposed to a viewpoint that strives to reduce all to symbols.
    Symbols aren’t reality.
    Reminds me of a cartoon I saw once: a chicken who angrily says ‘I am not Nugget!’

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  799. BeantownBill February 17, 2012 at 11:47 pm #

    It’s always cool to talk to you, too, X. Rather than taking a fast train to Zapfendorf, how about a fast plane to Tahiti?

  800. Eleuthero February 17, 2012 at 11:52 pm #

    The Ancient Greeks described humans as “Zoon Politikon” which means “social animal” (not POLITICAL animal for you literalists out there). There are very few species of animals that are natural loners. People are not exceptional in this regard. Even loners want to feel like they’re part of some community even if this community is more hypothetical than real.
    However, even given this fundamental truth, I, personally, find most of my fascinations with individuals, not groups. History shows us that most of the ideas and devices of modern civilization often came from lone, cantankerous, often anti-social people who sacrificed being joiners to pursue an idea until an invention or a great idea was born.
    I have great respect for the role of the rogue individual in history. We certainly need group cohesion to function as a society but the spark of genius and the fruits that it bears come, more often than not, from the dogies who split off from the herd.
    E.

  801. BeantownBill February 17, 2012 at 11:56 pm #

    Procon, I’m feeling like I’m sinking in quicksand here with you, getting in deeper and deeper, everything I say only gets you angrier, so how about we do drop the whole subject, between us?

  802. Eleuthero February 17, 2012 at 11:56 pm #

    A great joke, Q. … thanks for the well-needed laugh. Tonto “Bubba” Goldstein … I once had a friend with whom I’d muse about “impossible” names”. We’d come up with things like “Anatoly Gomez” or “Levi Ben-O’Flynn” but Tonto Bubba Goldstein wins hands down. 🙂
    E.

  803. xyqgqcnk February 18, 2012 at 12:05 am #

    ? ? debate ? ? Jun ? ? Jian ? error ? ? clams ? ? Guang Chun ? ? groceries they enjoy the public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse ? hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? ? ? Zi ? ? ?? ? Xian Dai ? ? ? pull pull Dai … Woo ? alone ? ? Lan Lan ? pride ? ? ? ? shark ? ? ? Fu Ken Xu ? ? nickname ? ? Du ? ? Li Qian public bathhouse hunting ? fresh ? ? public bathhouse public bathhouse hunting hunting hunting ? public bathhouse ? public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? Ken ? Gong ? ? Xiu ? ? ? ? ? ? Zhao ? Xiu ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? Yi Qian public bathhouse ? ? hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? ? ? Bao Falcon ? Duopi ? ? catch ? Lao ? ? ?? ? Gui ? ? ? ? ? ? Fa ? ? Zhao ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? ? nickname Fa Lan Lan ? ? ? ? ? cross ? ? Xiu ? ? pants ? ? Wei ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? ? ? Sa ? ? arrogance ? Qian public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? ? ? ? collettii ? ? arrogance ? ? Un Chau Chun Du ? ? ? arrogance ? ? ? ? Bao Qian public bathhouse ? ? hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Xu Chuan Ti ? She ? ? ? Qin Jiao ? ? Qian public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse ? hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? Falcon ? ? leather shoes ? Si ? ? ? jump ? Wa ? ? ? Series ? ? ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? ? ? ? ? surprised lair ? Zang ? ? ? ? Shi Guang Pu ? ? Su ? ?? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? ? Gui Lan Lan ? bundle wrapped in cloth ? ? ? ? drug ? ? regression shark ? ? pull Dai ? ? ?? ? ? pull … independence Woo ? Lan Dai Lan ? ? ? ? ? Uu ? Shi Yin ? ? if Miao ? ? ? ? Boschniakia glabra ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? ? Yi Lan Lan ? Sa ? ? generation ? kohlrabi ? ? ? Chang ? Yin ? ? ? Yuan ? ? ? ? ? Uu ? ? ? … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? ? Invite ? ? pants ? ? generation ? Un Chau Fu ? ? ? ? if Miao Han ? public bathhouse hunting hunting ? ? public bathhouse ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? Mai ? dark ? ? ? hand ? ? Suo ? ? ? ? but ? ? ?? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? rain ? ? ? mane Wei Yuan ? ? arrogance ? ? ? cheap ? ? Chu Sa ? ? ? ? suddenly ? ? pull Fugitive ? ? ? pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? ? Yi Lan Lan ? Sa Sa ? ? ?? ? ? pride ? ? ? ? Gong Qian public bathhouse hunting hunting ? ? public bathhouse ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? ? ? Xiu ? ? japonica Sa ? ?? ? ? reel ? Boschniakia glabra ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? ? ? ? ? ? scorpionfish ? Qinzhao ? Gong Chan ? cesium ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? ? end of yoke Mai Lan Lan ? ? ? ? ? ? Wei ? ? ? ? bamboo basket ? ? ?? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? Si ? ? ? if ? ? ? arrogance ? Moshang ? ?? ? Buddha ridiculed ? Solutions pride ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? surprised ? ? She Han ? Diao public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? ? ? Xiu ? ? ? ? ? ? catfish ? ? Betel ? japonica ? ? Lao ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? ? Yin Lan Lan ? ? ? ? Bian ? Ran Wei Han ? ? reel ? Invite ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … Lan Lan ? alone Woo ? ? Zhu ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? ? ?? ? ?? ? Pi ? ? ? Pei ? Guang Qian public bathhouse Martin ? hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ?Xi ? ? Betel ? japonica Bian ? Ran reel ? ? arrogance ? Tai public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? shark ? monitor ? ? ? but ? ? Bin ? ? Ying Shi ? coverlet ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo? ? Gui Lan Lan ? ? ? Department ? ? Ran mysterious ? ? Dan ? Ju ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai Lan ? … independence Woo ? large belt ? Teng Teng Lan ? rockfish ? ? ? ? ? Promethium ? ?? ? ?? ? while ? ? Sui Sui Bian ? ? ? Zizhao ? Mo ? ? ? Shao Ying ? ? ? suddenly in the rim ? large belt ? Zhu ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? ?? ? lying ? mysterious ? lying Uu ? ?? ? Qiao ? ? ? ? ? lying Uu ? Rong ? ? Te public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? Ti ? ? ? ? bitter Li ? ? ? ? Qiao ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Sui ? ? ? ? ? Guangshao ? tattoo ? ? ? Pu ? ? Martin ? ?? ? ?? ? Lao ? ? Tuo ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? account public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? monitor ? ?? ? ?? ? Xian Wu Di Zhi ? She ? ? Han ? Diao public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? stuck ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Xiu ? ? ? Growing ? Pro ? ? peptone ? ? Yun Jiao ? surprised bundle wrapped in cloth ? modest public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? lying ? ? ? ? cross-core ? ? ? ? Tai Zhu Ran ? ? public bathhouse public bathhouse hunting hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? catfish ? ?? ? Ran ? ? ? decadent ? ? ? ? Tuo ? ? ? camphene ? Tai public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? ? ? swallow ? ? ? ? ? ? public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? monitor ? ?? Han ? Fu ? ? Yinzhao ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? ? Zeng Lan Lan ? Wu ? Te ? ? ? ? public bathhouse public bathhouse hunting hunting ? ? Lang ? ? monitor ? ? ? Han Chuang ? Dujiang ? ? Zhan Zhao ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? ? Zeng Lan Lan ? ? ? ? Qian Gong ? chisel ? ? ? public bathhouse public bathhouse hunting hunting ? ? Lang ? ? monitor ? ? ? Fu Jian ? ? ? hand ? sleeve ? ? ?? ? ?? ? pull Dai ? pull Dai … independence Woo ? Lan ? Lan ? Pouken ? pants ? ? Zhu ? ? Fu ? ? swallow ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? pull Dai ? pull Dai … independence Woo ? Lan ? Lan ? Yin ? ? ?? ? pull Fugitive ? ? ? pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? touch ? ? ? pomfret arrogance ? ? hand ? Qian public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? Sa ? peptone ? ? if ? ? ? recognized ? Fu ? ? Boschniakia glabra ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? ? Bao Lan Lan ? fat on intestines ? ?? ? ? Sa ? Duo debate ? ? potage ? Xian Jiao ? cesium ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … Lan Lan ? alone Woo ? ? Gui ? ? ? hand ? ? ? ? ?? ? surprised speech ? Suikong ? ? ? ? anal ? Guang Dai Xian ? ? ? pull pull … independence Woo ? Lan Dai Lan ? ? ? Sa ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? Reng ? Kun ? ? Sui Qian public bathhouse ? ? ?? ? hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? ? ? ? Tong ? bass ? ? Uu ? Korea suddenly large belt ? Rong ? ? Till the dawn of ? ? ?? ? ? Ran groceries ? ? ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? ? Ji Lan Lan ? pride ? ? crucian carp ? the ? ? arrogant swagger ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? ? cheap ? ? Buddha ? ? ?? ? ?? ? ? vicious shark ? Kushiro plutonium ? ? ? vine ? ? ? ? ? modest public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? Shao ? ? ? ? ? ? wrestle wrestle ? ? Gui ? ? Lao ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? ? ? Fu Lan Lan ? ? ?? ? ?? ? Bao Falcon ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Lao ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai Lan ? … independence Woo ?Sui Lan ? ?? ? shark ? ?? ? rain ? ? cheap ? ? ? Pi ? ? ? ? touch Jun ? ? ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai Lan ? … independence Woo ? ? ? Fu Ying Lan ? cheap ? ? ? shark ? Zou ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? hand ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Fu Ying ? ? China ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? ? ?? ? ? Uu ? suddenly large belt ? Zhi ? ? ? Uu ? She more ? ? Cha ? ?? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? ? Ji Lan Lan ? pride ? ? nickname ? ? ? crucian carp muscle ? imitation buckle Growing ? ? ? ? Ran ? ? winding ? ? ? ? ? account public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLA
    Y ? ? ? jump ? Wa ? ? ? ? ? ? training ? ? steam ? harmonic arrogance ? ? ? ? Sui ? ? Quan Pu ? ? ? ? Ren Shi ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Zhuan ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? ? ? ? Er Sui ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? ? Yi Lan Lan ? Sa ? steam Pro ? ? ? ? harmonic arrogance ? ? lying ? ?? ? ? arrogance ? Tai public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? ? ? Lou ? ? ?? ? Xian ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? ?? ? ? ? Zhao ? ? ? ? Xu Uu ? ? shark ? SM ? ? Ling ? ? ?? ? ?? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? ?? ? ? Scirpus ? ? if ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? Di large belt ? Qian public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? ? ? Xiu ? ? ? Mang Sa ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Di Falcon Pride ? ? reel ? ? ? ? Te public bathhouse hunting hunting ? ? ? public bathhouse Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? dragonfly ? She Han ? Diao public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? ? ? Gui ? ? ? bundle wrapped in cloth ? Cong-e ? ? muscle ? ? ? ? ? ? Xue Gong Tao Invite ? ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? ? ? ? ? wrestle ? ? ? ? ? Bin meat ? ? ? ? Tai public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? Shao ? ? Ken ? ?? ? Fu Yin Shao ? Guangshen ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? arrogance ? ?? ? ? Bian ? Kun ? ? surprised bundle wrapped in cloth ? lettuce Qiu ? ? pull pull Dai Dai Lan ? … independence Woo ? Sa ? Xiu Yi Lan ? ? ? ? leather shoes ? ? ? ? Kuang ? ? curl up ? ? ?? ? ?? ? ? arrogance ? ? Yuan Qian public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse ? hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? ? ? ? Ju ? door of an inner room oolitic ? collar ? ? Sui catfish ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Chang ? Tai public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? ? ? Zhu ? ? SM ? ? ? Sa ? ? ? ? Fu Shao ? ?? ? ? Uu ? Yin ? ? ? ? ? Chan bundle wrapped in cloth bundle wrapped in cloth ? ? Tan Tai Ling ? ? ? public bathhouse public bathhouse hunting hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? debate ? ?? ? ? ? ? Congshao ? ? ? ? Huan Wen ? ? oolitic ? wrestle ? Sm ? ? ? Zi ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? Xiu ? ? ? sturgeon ? Tai public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? swelling of foot ? kohlrabi ? ? ? ? ? Gong ? ? error ? ? ? Ken ? Chan ? ? chisel Shang ? ?? ? wrestle ? ? ? Chan Chan bundle wrapped in cloth bundle wrapped in cloth ? ? ? ? ? mince ? Diao public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? Mai ? dark ? ? Chan Chan bundle wrapped in cloth ? coming across a bundle wrapped in cloth ? betel ? goblet ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? clams ? ? ? ? ? detailed hand ? wrestle ? ? the ? ? Kushiro Ti ? yam Invite ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? rain ? ? ? winding ? ? ? Mang ? Fu shark ? ? ? ? ? Uu ? ? ? ? Di ? ? Dan ? fresh clams ? ? ? arrogance ? ?? ? modest public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? Growing touch touch ? ? ? spider Rong ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Xiu ? ? mane Shao ? ?? ? Gui ? ? ravioli ? ? ?? ? Tuo Lo ? pants ? ? Lao ? ? ? Sa ? ? ? ? Zi ? ? Sui ? ? ? ? ? Dan ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? Xi ? ? ? ? Zhan Hua ? ? Sa ? surprised crucian carp ? ? ? ? Ling ? ? ? ? ? Ji Chen sleeve ? ?? ? drug ? ? ? ? ? Jun ? Te public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? ? ? ? bundle wrapped in cloth ? Yin ? ? ? arrogance ? ? Yuan ? ? bundle wrapped in cloth ? ? Superintendent ? Wang ? ? ? kneepad ? Ran ? ? Tai public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? monitor ?? ? Xi ? Solutions pride ? ? ? ? Sui Lun Mang ? ? ? ? rockfish ? Xi Superintendent ? Lao ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Wang W ? ? bundle wrapped in cloth ? ? ? ? Tai public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ?PLAY ? ? ? ? ? Guan ? ? supper ? ? ? bundle wrapped in cloth ? beard ? ? Wei Xiu ? vicious debate ? ?? ? Rong ? ? ?? ? curl up arrogance ? the Qin ? Cong ? ? ?? ? Si ? ? Ben ? ? ? ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? ? Sui Lan Lan ? pass away ? ? ? ? bundle wrapped in cloth ? Huan Wang Jiao ? Department ? ? Tai public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? Xi ? ? ? ? ?? ? Qian public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? Dao ? hoe ? ? Pro ? ? horseleech Bai ? cricket Wen Qian public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse ? hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? mysterious ? ?? ? Pro ? ? Zhuan ? ? cricket ? ? modest public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? bundle wrapped in cloth ? monitor ? ? ? Yin ? ? ?? ? Pro ? ? horseleech Superintendent ? Ling public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? ? ? Guan ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? rice ? ? rain ? ? Xu Yuan ? Teng ? ? heron debate ? ? ? ? ? ? ? bluefish Han ? ?? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? Hong PLAY ? ? ? ? ? Mo ? ? cheap ? ? lying ? ? ? ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? Guangchang ? ? ? ? ? ? ? goblet engraved hunting ? ? Dou public bathhouse? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? ? ? ? calcium ? cheap cymbals ? ? ? Guang Zhu ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? ? Qin Lan Lan ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? chisel ? ? Dou public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? Sa ? ? rolling ? muscle ? Zhu Cong rolling ? Dou Sa ? Duo hunting ? public bathhouse public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? Sa ? ?? ? Cong muscle ? Chu Sa ? ?? ? Dou public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? Sa ? ? You ? muscle ? Zhu Cong Luan ? Dou Sa ? ? ? public bathhouse public bathhouse hunting hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? ? ? leather shoes ? Sa Cong muscle ? Chu Sa ? ? leather shoes ? Dou public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? Sa ? ?? ? Cong muscle ? Chu Sa ? ? ? ? Dou public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ?Sa ? ?? ? muscle ? Zhu Cong Du ? ? Dou Sa ? ? public bathhouse public bathhouse hunting hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? Sa ? ?? ? ? ? ? Cong muscle ? Chu Sa ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Dou public bathhouse hunting ?public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? Sa ? ?? ? ?? ? supper ? ? benzene ? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? ? cheap ? ? ? Yap ? ? Zhui ? ? ? ? Guang ? ? Dou public bathhouse hunting ? public bathhouse hunting ? ? Lang ? PLAY ? ? ? debate ? ? ? ? ? ? ? clams ? ? Guang ? ? ?? ? ? pull pull Dai Dai … independence Woo ? Lan Lan ? ?? ? ? large belt ? ? see Buddha ? cheap ? ? cross ? ? winding ? ? Yi see ? PLAY

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  804. progress2conserve February 18, 2012 at 12:13 am #

    Bill,
    You’ve said you want immigration into the US reduced. You’ve said that you think the ideal population of the US would be 150 million.
    Yet you won’t challenge Mika over any of his
    GO BACK TO EUROPE repetitiveness.
    And you won’t challenge him when he goes on record as saying “You white fuckers are such callous swines and hypocrites it’s amazing how anybody can tolerate you traveling abroad without lynching you on the spot.”
    This really is amazing. I’ve never heard a Jew talk like this before. Are you SURE this sonofabitch is Jewish?
    ============================
    “Mika is angry and I don’t blame him. I don’t agree with everything he says. I don’t always appreciate his vociferousness, but I will defend him to the death, for he is a member of my tribe, a tribe that is constantly being put down.”
    -btb-
    This is some pretty scary stuff to me, Bill.
    Because if I wanted a tribe, guess who would be in it. So let me make a slight paraphrase – and let you see how it feels.
    “Vlad is angry and I don’t blame him. I don’t agree with everything he says. I don’t always appreciate his vociferousness, but I will defend him to the death, for he is a member of my tribe, a tribe that is constantly being put down.”
    -p2c, hypothetically speaking-

  805. asoka. February 18, 2012 at 12:17 am #

    excessive scorn. I’m afraid that if this is the way it is for Jews on a supposedly open-minded board, then it must be infinitely worse in the outside world. You cannot understand the pain that this causes me.

    For me there is no contradiction or inconsistency in saying I am a Christian, Jew, Sufi, Hindu, Buddhist, atheist, etc. From traveling many paths my spiritual experience has been one, so the words don’t matter. Though particulars of practice differ, the experience is the same.
    In Kabbalah it is ein sof.
    In Vedanta Hinduism it is sat-chit-ananda (turiyatita).
    In Buddhism it is awakening (nirvikalpa samadhi).
    In Sufism it is zat (absolute consciousness)
    Whatever the tradition, whatever words are used, it is an a-theistic (no god or gods) experience of non-dual mysticism, the union of form and formless.
    Just mentioning my experience brings scathing criticism from the likes of Q. and E. and ozone and P2C using words like “slippery eel,” weasel, hypocrite, “stench of sanctimony,” dilettante, liar, nutcase, evil, and other similar terms I don’t recall.
    On this supposedly open-minded board, the scorn heaped upon me with any mention of mystical experience, or universal love for that matter, has been interesting to observe.

  806. asoka. February 18, 2012 at 12:35 am #

    Well my people are under attack by asoka and Mika.
    P2C, I am not attacking white folks. I was presenting the main points of the author of The Bell Curve, which Vlad always cites, in his new book, Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010” by Charles Murray.
    Maybe you missed that I was presenting Charles Murray’s points and you thought I was attacking whites.
    You know, P2C, some of my best friends are whites.
    In any event, I just wanted you to know I harbor no ill will toward whites, nor toward you.
    It does not matter that you hate me, or that you hate me more than you have ever hated anyone, or that your hatred for me grows by the day.
    It does concern me that your visceral hatred for me might gnaw at your innards (I am concerned for your well-being).
    None of the hatred directed at me changes my feelings of love for you.
    I truly want you to be well and happy.

  807. anti soak February 18, 2012 at 12:50 am #

    ‘He is like the devil’…
    Vlad, Crimes of the Times blog and Elaine Supkis
    have convinced me Zionists run the world…
    they are the devil!

  808. anti soak February 18, 2012 at 12:52 am #

    Yes for a depressing read MS is always good!

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  809. asoka. February 18, 2012 at 12:53 am #

    Charles Murray is also not attacking whites either. In his new book Murray is describing a large and growing white underclass.
    P2C, take BeanTownBill’s advice and lighten up a bit.
    It’s all lila. The universe is just a play of consciousness. The playful nature of the divine, the manifestation of life, the fiction of death, none of it is to be taken seriously.
    Earth is hurtling through the universe at 827,700 miles per hour.
    Relax and enjoy the ride.

  810. anti soak February 18, 2012 at 12:55 am #

    Viola!
    from a post at EMSNEWS:
    Israel is selling off all our tech to China. This is a bid by them to allow themselves to survive after the US falls. They hope an appreciative China will allow them to still be the bully boy on the Middle Eastern block.
    That won’t be the case. Now that we are in peak oil time, all the Middle East’s oil resources are needed by a growing China. The last thing they need is a country stirring up religious insanity in the area………………………………..

  811. Qshtik February 18, 2012 at 1:03 am #

    Re Mikvah,
    I want to withdraw the insulting term “Asshole” with which I labeled Mikvah a week or so ago. It is because the word is so universally applied as the ultimate put-down that it has lost some of its zing. As I said while discussing the word Yo-Yo, Asshole has become shopworn.
    Without trying to delve more deeply into the subtleties of why I now feel I should drop the word Asshole, suffice it to say I now lean heavily toward recognizing Mikvah as “a Horses Ass” and I hope you will all join me in this. It’s fresh and, given today’s conversation eminently appropriate.
    Thank you and good evening.

  812. BeantownBill February 18, 2012 at 1:04 am #

    You’re conducting a reductio ad absurdum (sp?) argument, which is illogical, if not obviously so.
    Why would you get angry about being called fat white trash, especially if it isn’t true (and, note, I NEVER called you that), yet when members of my religion feel they aren’t getting a fair shake and get very angry, they’re being jerks?
    Look, Procon, there’s 7,000 million humans on this planet. There’s 14 million Jews, or about 2 tenths of 1 percent of the human race. I’m guessing, there must be at least 2 billion whites, or 28% of the human race. So, using your argument, when your tribe is being put down by non-tribal members, Vlad gets angry because about two and a half times the number of your tribe puts it down. But with Jews, when they get put down, about 500 times as many people as Jews may be putting them down. That’s pretty scary, being outnumbered 500 to 1. And since anger is a reaction to fear, and assuming the proportional strength of that reaction varies linearly, Jews should be 140 times as angry as non-Jewish whites. In other words, Vlad’s anger is way out of proportion to Mika’s.
    In reality, no one knows who or what other posters are. Mika or I may not be Jewish, or Asoka may be a 28 year old white male living in the Ural mountains. But since we really don’t know unless we meet the other in person, isn’t it reasonable and practical to take posters who say they are who they are, at face value?
    Anyway, I’m pretty tired of this type of running argument. I’m done with it.

  813. BeantownBill February 18, 2012 at 1:13 am #

    Once, when I was in my 20’s, I weakened, and despite my disdain for pseudo-science, I had my horoscope done. The astrologer said my life path was to gain spritual enlightenment. I never forgot it. But I’m not a Buddhist. I am still on my life path, although I have gained a certain amount of enlightenment, so I am still subject to life’s slings and arrows. I know you are, too, but I guess you’re further along your path than I am in mine.

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  815. asoka. February 18, 2012 at 1:15 am #

    For any Buddhists (especially those of the Shambhala persuasion) on CFN who are celebrating the New Year this weekend, Happy New Year!
    Wednesday, February 15 marked the beginning of Losar and the Tibetan New Year.

  816. BeantownBill February 18, 2012 at 1:15 am #

    And you are one of his disciples.

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    And Napoleon Hill, in his book, Think and Grow Rich, tells of Woodrow Wilson’s last words on his death bed: “Nothing is important”.

  818. Vlad Krandz February 18, 2012 at 1:24 am #

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    And part of it might be that Buddhism has mostly flourished among the Mongolian Race – the coolest of the big three.

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  821. wagelaborer February 18, 2012 at 1:30 am #

    No, Vlad, I can think of ways to get pregnant while holding an aspirin between my knees.
    But the distraction would be unwelcome.

  822. asoka. February 18, 2012 at 1:44 am #

    I do not go in for any of that New Age stuff, including Napolean Hill and all the current “law of attraction” stuff.
    I am a sucker for the “Old Age” stuff, for traditions that have been around for millenia.
    St. Thomas Aquinas, author of the masterpiece, Summa Theologica, gave his last words:
    “All I have written is as straw”
    I have zero interest in theology or God, but I do like what Meister Eckhart said:
    “The eye with which I see God is the same with which God sees me.”
    That line almost got him burned at the stake.

  823. Vlad Krandz February 18, 2012 at 1:54 am #

    The White Race is now about 7% of the World’s Population and falling fast. Our Cousins the Southern Causcasians – the Arabs, Hindus, Afghans, South Asian Muslims, etc are flourishing and are in no danger. We are. And we have every right to defend ourselves. And to identify the origin of the danger to us. And the Jews and their endless guilt tripping and globalism are one such danger. Not the only one though.

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  824. Vlad Krandz February 18, 2012 at 2:02 am #

    Was it ever thought to be an effective contraceptive? I assume “between the knees” is a genteel way of saying suppostory – I blush a furious red.

  825. Vlad Krandz February 18, 2012 at 2:18 am #

    What do you mean you’re afraid? That’s crap. Your next response is more like it: he’s your Co-Ethnic, your homie, your Tribe Brother and you will support him against outsiders no matter what he says. So, since you see us as outsiders – how well have you really assimilated? To support an Israeli hater before your own Country men – as he trashes your own Country and fellow citizens?
    That’s the reason Jews have been thrown out of almost every European Country. Always trying to have it both ways. Always preaching Universalism but not practicing it. Always having other allegiances that might well conflict with your duties as a citizen. How can you be trusted?
    You should have criticized Mika. It was the right thing to do. You chose the wrong thing.

  826. Vlad Krandz February 18, 2012 at 2:41 am #

    One illuminating little point: people who believe or who pretend to believe Mika and I are the same: they all believe he is me not that I am he. None of them believe a Jew could be as nasty as Mika is. And they all love to believe the worst about a White even though they are White too.
    But Mika is for real and he is far from alone. And don’t doubt Asoka – there are many intellecutal Blacks like Asoka – I’ve met a few.
    They have created me. And I salute them. Two factors drive: they are the way they are and most White don’t know. That must change since they aren’t going to.

  827. Vlad Krandz February 18, 2012 at 3:10 am #

    Wow, that’s where I was a few years ago. I thought everyone was Jewish. Sometimes I thought I was Jewish.
    The Zionists are trying to take the World – along with their Gentile allies. The “Allies” are stronger on the Continent in Europe. The Jews seem stronger in North America and Britain. Have you checked out Henry Makow yet? He’s Jewish and he agrees with us. But he says the two groups are basically interchangeable now and have intermarried alot in Europe, particularly Britain. It’s happening alot here now too – look how Chelsea Clinton married into a big Jewish family.
    Makow is very strong on the psychological war being waged against the West – particularly the Feminist and Homo attacks.
    I think they will fail though: China and Russia are fully aware of them and may have already entered into an alliance. And then there’s Islam as well.
    About your other post: can’t find the site, but the Jews are trying to ingratiate themselves with the Chinese. Making a big deal about the small Jewish communities that have existed there from time to time. They would love to use China as their next vehicle now that America drops bleeding into the dirty snow – and the predators come in to finish us off.

  828. Vlad Krandz February 18, 2012 at 3:24 am #

    You should come to heaven with me. We’ll recline on soft divans and ottomans drinking nectar from goblets of gold serve by dark eyed beauties. You can at last sample forbidden “Arabic” pleasures and I can at last have non-White women. Our duties will be Done! And that’s just the lower Heaven. There are higher Joys – particularly that of Contemplating His Essence, His Face.
    And of course before we move on to this Bliss, we will enjoy looking down over the edge where we’ll see Wage, Ozone, etc in Hell turning on a spit. Why not? It’s not forever – the secret doctrine of the Sufis agree with Messi on this point. How could one worship a God who would torture his sons and daughters forever? An infinite punishment for a finite crime? So we can enjoy their discomfiture sans guilt. After all, it is Heaven and before we know it they’ll be there and start another argument – which will get us all banned again. As the Cylon said, “This has all happened before. This will all happen again.” Or as Whitman said, “To stand unabashed before a million universes”.

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  829. Vlad Krandz February 18, 2012 at 3:30 am #

    I argued that very point with an African Professor once. He said people should always be connected and remain understood by the community. But I told him how a weird Japanese guy who was fascinated by grass developed a useful variety of rice. Just by doing their own thing, oddballs have often benefited the community. I mean even an amoeba has to throw part of itself forward to get anywhere. If everyone remains “even” – the social body can’t move.
    But my previous post was about Community and its necessity – even to eccentrics and oddballs. We tolerate them – not everyone does. So even they should value the West and do their part in protecting it.

  830. Vlad Krandz February 18, 2012 at 3:35 am #

    Haven’t heard anything. It would be a travesty if true. I mean isn’t Arlington for the Military? Would there be any precedent for this?
    I guess they lowered the flag for Frank Sinatra so you can’t play favorites. He wasn’t a drug addict but he loved to hang around with Mafioso.

  831. Vlad Krandz February 18, 2012 at 3:39 am #

    I like Father Divine who said, “Black is beautiful but Green is better.”
    Everyday I chant and affirm, “Dollars want me”.

  832. Eleuthero February 18, 2012 at 3:41 am #

    P2C quote BeantownBill as follows:
    “Mika is angry and I don’t blame him. I don’t agree with everything he says. I don’t always appreciate his vociferousness, but I will defend him to the death, for he is a member of my tribe, a tribe that is constantly being put down.”
    -btb-
    *************************************************************
    You were absolutely correct to take BTB to task for this remark. If any non-Jew, non-Hispanic, or non-Black defends their “tribe” in this manner, they would be considered incredibly hateful people. I’m a white guy and I will not defend ANYONE to “death” just because he’s a “member of my tribe”.
    I’m beginning to think that Vlad is just a white Mika/Bill/Asoka that just happens to be defending his “tribe” and, quite frankly, with more discernment than carte blanche statements like Bill makes above.
    Note to Bill: Mika is a FUCKING NUTTER. If he was a Finn, my vituperation against him would be no less. Ah, but he’s not a Finn is he, therefore, everything I say against him is scrutinized by the thought police.
    Bill, you went down MANY notches in my book as a putative rational being. Sorry. You did it to yourself.
    E.

  833. Eleuthero February 18, 2012 at 3:48 am #

    P2C converting Bill’s RACIST pro-Mika comment into his own where he merely substitutes Vlad’s name for Mika’s:
    “Vlad is angry and I don’t blame him. I don’t agree with everything he says. I don’t always appreciate his vociferousness, but I will defend him to the death, for he is a member of my tribe, a tribe that is constantly being put down.”
    -p2c, hypothetically speaking-
    ***************************************************************
    Anybody who has worked in the public sector for the last FORTY years knows that the most undesirable, least hirable group are non-Jewish White Males.
    Tell me, Bill … who in the media or anywhere but this blog ever “puts down” Jews? How are they “oppressed”? They have high incomes and are disproportionately represented in the media and the financial sector. They are underrepresented in the military and in engineering. WHO, pray tell, is their “oppressor”?? Just because you can talk bullshit with chutzpah doesn’t mean it contains a pebble of truth. However, it’s quite in keeping with the modern ethos in America that if you out-shout your rhetorical adversaries you “win” arguments.
    Sigh.
    E.

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  834. Eleuthero February 18, 2012 at 3:54 am #

    Q. said:
    Without trying to delve more deeply into the subtleties of why I now feel I should drop the word Asshole, suffice it to say I now lean heavily toward recognizing Mikvah as “a Horses Ass” and I hope you will all join me in this. It’s fresh and, given today’s conversation eminently appropriate.
    Thank you and good evening.
    **************************************************************
    What I want to know is, is “Mikvah” Mika/Metusaleh’s THIRD identity on CFN?? It’s almost cliche that on blogs the most craven cowards need multiple identities because they don’t have what it takes to be a sitting duck with just one identity.
    Except when I feel some impish, divine malice … I elide over all the posts of these kinds of people. Now and then it is fun to knock them on their asses for sport like the dunking venue at the county fair.
    E.

  835. Vlad Krandz February 18, 2012 at 4:32 am #

    Wait, weren’t Aquinas and Eckhart White – or is that just a popular superstition?

  836. mika. February 18, 2012 at 7:24 am #

    Because if I wanted a tribe, guess who would be in it.
    ==
    Go to your tribe. It is calling you, buckweed. You, Vlad, and that mental gimp “EL TORO”.

  837. lbendet February 18, 2012 at 8:14 am #

    The Republican’s own Incredible Wayback Machine—Theater of Cruelty revisited
    Well, things are really warping out these days on the campaign trail and it seems nothing is too extreme or too yesterday for these guys. Of course the real problem is they now live in the carnival funhouse room of mirrors.
    Yes, we are entering a time warp where history is distorted by extreme revisionism.
    Who are most upset by this? Believe it or not the people who were part of Reagan’s administration.
    Two shows on Bill Moyers address the concerns of the tax issues with the Rep party and their fundamentalist refusal to raise taxes and their confusion between “liberty” and government. They say Reagan raised taxes when necessary and that he is being lionized for their own purposes as they distort his record.
    see:
    http://billmoyers.com/video/
    See Bruce Bartlett on Where the Right Went Wrong
    Posted: February 17, 2012
    Bruce Bartlett on how right-wing tax policies are destroying America’s economy. and
    David Stockman on the Folly of Anti-Tax Crusades
    Former Reagan budget director David Stockman says today’s Republicans have taken their anti-tax campaign too far.
    _________
    One wonders as the economy is not producing enough jobs whether the wily Reps don’t want to create more barriers to the ladies in the job market. One way is not just to stop abortions, but to stop birth control practices.
    On this site we often address over-population. Well let’s get into our incredible Wayback machine and find ourselves skipping over the 20th century altogether, that’s the ticket.
    So, enter the anti-sex league: Presidential hopeful and the K-Street wonder boy Rick Santorum has stated he is against contraception.
    We had a view of back to the future as an all male panel was set up to discuss women’s contraception. You think it’s not too late to turn back the clock? Guess guys are just going have to use condoms from now on….
    All this because Obama care dared to suggest that non catholic workers in Catholic affiliations supported by tax-payer dollars be covered for contraception. Gee that happened so fast, you wonder whether it was slated to happen anyway.
    –Personally I didn’t think the Obama strategy was handled well at all. The timing was horrific and it should have been back-channeled to reach a consensus privately.
    In Virginia they passed a law requiring the ladies to have an ultrasound before an abortion.
    Oh let’s see, now. Not only are costs going to skyrocket with more unnecessary procedures, but because of the early time period, a physical sensor has to be inserted in a woman to view the holy zygote. One could imagine not only is this a way of intimidating these women, but hey you could turn this probe into a form of torture and stick in a freezer first. That outta larn them womenz.
    It’s another sign of the time, like the airline intrusions which are also abused, requiring some attractive women to go through the x-ray machine several times for the guys in the back room. No issue about the radiation. They never even think about that….of course you know, Science doesn’t matter.
    You know what the said back in the day. If men could get pregnant, this wouldn’t even be under discussion.

  838. progress2conserve February 18, 2012 at 8:39 am #

    Wow – Intense Night on CFN.
    Let me start with a little humor, of sorts.
    Vlad, sometimes I do wonder how old you are and whether you are native to the US.
    “Was it ever thought to be an effective contraceptive? I assume “between the knees” is a genteel way of saying suppostory – I blush a furious red.” -vlad, aspirin in hand?-
    Vlad, this whole thing about the “aspirin between the knees,” is based on an old sort-of joke, that was commonly heard in the ’60’s.
    “The best contraceptive pill is an aspirin, held firmly between the knees.”
    Haw Haw Haw

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  839. lbendet February 18, 2012 at 9:29 am #

    End of Democracy…. by way of Max Keiser, I came across Greg Palast on Alex Jones…excellent 3-part interview:
    http://www.infowars.com/the-billionaires-brokered-gop-convention-with-bbcs-greg-palast/

  840. asoka. February 18, 2012 at 9:45 am #

    Yes, Vlad, they were both white.
    Should I never admire anything any white person had said? That would be racist.

  841. Buck Stud February 18, 2012 at 11:50 am #

    I have listened to Mark Steyn a few times on Rush Limbaugh and he is a real hoot. He’s also a Neo-Con who banged the drums of war before the Iraqi invasion. So no thanks to your recommendation.
    Maybe it’s the “Jackie Blue” screen name, and not that it really matters – to each his own – but I never figured you for a Neo-Con.

  842. anti soak February 18, 2012 at 11:59 am #

    Culture of Life News
    emsnews.wordpress.com/
    3 hours ago – The fuel crisis caused by Zionist warmongering and Saudi fears of its own Shi’ite subjects is causing world oil ……………
    Its in a post in response to one of her columns…
    She has the NYTimes figured out!

  843. Qshtik February 18, 2012 at 12:02 pm #

    You should come to heaven with me. We’ll recline on soft divans and ottomans drinking nectar……
    =================
    In ages hence this will take its place beside Matthew 4:1-11 and be known as “The Temptation of Prog.”

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  844. anti soak February 18, 2012 at 12:04 pm #

    Well its 8.55 am in LA..
    One of the reports on NPR is [gasp] ‘White flight from KC schools, that have [gasp] lost accredit ion’
    So from the get go they frame the show not in terms of ‘black failure’ but in terms of white flight.
    Then they interview an 8th grader…his family have moved there from [gulp] Somalia.
    Has anyone noticed the ‘refugees’ being moved to ‘nice’ [read white] areas?
    Via ‘section 8’ and immigration the countries being ruined or is already ruined.
    But NPR talks white flight.

  845. anti soak February 18, 2012 at 12:11 pm #

    Bill…..check this site and get back to me..
    Culture of Life News
    emsnews.wordpress.com/
    3 hours ago – The fuel crisis caused by Zionist warmongering and Saudi fears of its own Shi’ite subjects is causing world oil …………….

  846. Eleuthero February 18, 2012 at 12:14 pm #

    Mika said:
    Go to your tribe. It is calling you, buckweed. You, Vlad, and that mental gimp “EL TORO”.
    *********************************************************
    This “response” is at the level of a 5th grade simply saying “neener, neener, neener” when he’s got nothing left. I’ll now go back to my normal modus operandi of skipping over whatever you have to say. I should never get too optimistic when you enter one good post for every fifty nutty ones because the sane posts are just temporary aberrations.
    Now, you can go back to YOUR tribe and your fellow “tribesmen” like Bill who will go to the mat defending you simply BECAUSE of your tribe and only because of that. But don’t criticize anybody else for defending THEIR own just because of THEIR tribal affiliations either. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
    This whole sequence lately just illustrates what I have known to be true all along … every tribe, every ethnicity is ETHNOCENTRIC and RACIST.
    E.

  847. Qshtik February 18, 2012 at 12:19 pm #

    What I want to know is, is “Mikvah” Mika/Metusaleh’s THIRD identity on CFN??
    =============
    mikvah or mikveh (mik?v?, ?mikv?, mik?v?, ?mikv?)
    — n
    Judaism: a pool used esp by women for ritual purification after their monthly period

    It’s all about male Jews being skeeved by dirty vaginas.. eeeeww!

  848. Eleuthero February 18, 2012 at 12:29 pm #

    Anti-Soak said:
    One of the reports on NPR is [gasp] ‘White flight from KC schools, that have [gasp] lost accreditation’
    So from the get go they frame the show not in terms of ‘black failure’ but in terms of white flight.
    *************************************************************
    The same thing happened in 1965 in the Great White Flight to suburbia from eastern inner cities. My own family saw the writing on the wall in west Philadelphia in 1960 when housing values in their area fell because new black owners in their neighborhood stopped keeping up their houses and the neighborhood started getting seedy and run down looking. Also, as we all can guess, the property and personal crime in these neighborhoods increased.
    I love the way it’s always framed in the media as the HATEFULNESS of the whites who moved when the real reasons for whites moving was pragmatism itself i.e., they wanted to get out while they could still get a decent price for their property and before their cars were vandalized and/or their children or themselves were getting mugged or shot.
    Black hatred of white people, on the other hand, has no basis in FEAR OF PROPERTY OR PERSONAL DAMAGE. It is entirely ideological and full of shit. It has ZERO pragmatic basis. Even after the White Flight of 1965, the white man instituted programs like Affirmative Action which was a total failure because blacks then, and today, can’t succeed as a group even when given educational and hiring privileges via quotas.
    E.

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  849. Qshtik February 18, 2012 at 12:46 pm #

    KC schools, that have [gasp] lost accredit ion’
    accreditation
    Then they interview an 8th grader…his family have moved there from [gulp] Somalia.
    No Anti, it’s has moved. Family is singular though its members are plural and thus ‘family has moved.’
    Via ‘section 8’ and immigration the countries being ruined or is already ruined.
    It’s country’s as in the contraction for “country is.” Countries is plural as in “the countries of the Euro Zone.”

  850. charliefoxtrot February 18, 2012 at 12:54 pm #

    the real question is, whether you re gonna charge the flat rate of $1.67, or $3.34 for two offenses…

  851. Mrs Beasley February 18, 2012 at 1:20 pm #

    “Anyone and everyone should be allowed to do nothing if they so choose.”
    You simple twit. They can do that now. And if they choose to do nothing, they should be left to their own devices is doing so. Now quit being an ignoramus and go do S-O-M-E-T-H-I-N-G. (Something useful would be nice.)

  852. BeantownBill February 18, 2012 at 1:36 pm #

    I don’t believe in new age shit either. A lot of my new age or self-help experience came during my younger years when I was exploring who I was.
    However, there is a kernel of truth in the law of attraction. First, there’s no such thing as a “law of attraction”, but what appears to shallow thinking people to be a natural “law” is in fact just a mental function. Simply put, if you concentrate enough on a subject, your mind becomes more aware of that subject in your environment, and you can take advantage of situations related to it that you wouldn’t ordinarily. To the gullible, it appears as if some magic attraction occurred.

  853. progress2conserve February 18, 2012 at 2:07 pm #

    Bill,
    Eleuthero is smack on the money in his 3:41 and 3:48 posts to you. I hope you will read them and consider them dispassionately and objectively.
    It’s funny. Asoka, in his manufactured pose as an elderly black American expresses his anger – and you tell him his anger is understandable.
    Mika/Met in his, possibly, manufactured pose as a Jewish Israeli expresses violent anger and a desire to “lynch” random US white men on their travels abroad – and you tell him that THIS is understandable.
    But I dare to express anger – and you suggest that I better read some books on personality development.
    Actually, it’s not that funny, at all.
    I can attempt to “rationalize” asoka and met/mika as someone’s caricatures of a hate, filled, prejudiced black – or a hate, filled, prejudiced Israeli.
    Mika/Met and asoka are ciphers – we’ll never know for sure what they really are.
    You are a real person, Bill. Real estate broker, interested in the sciences and astronomy, living in a suburb of Boston. I even joked once on CFN that I’d ask you for a job interview, should my family be forced north by global warming. Except for your Jewish identity, you and I could be cousins, Bill. I never thought a thing like that was supposed to be a big deal, for friendships and business in America. Last night, I found out I was wrong.
    Very wrong.
    ==================================
    In your failure to speak out against even ONE of the WORST of Mika/Met’s hate-filled and illogical posts – – You demonstrate that your Tribe means more to you than does your Country.
    And sadly, you demonstrate that your Tribe means more to you than speaking up for common sense, or for American immigration reduction, or for some small efforts that might prevent the collapse of ecosystems that sustain human life on Earth.
    Sigh.
    I hereby withdraw the request for an interview as a real estate agent with your firm. No matter how good I was – as soon as a Mika or a Met showed up, you have demonstrated that you would cancel my contract and hire him.
    ====================================
    Bill, if you follow your past patterns – you will soon issue a statement that CFN no longer holds your interest, as CFN always degenerates into a racist blah blah…
    I’ll miss you, truly.
    If you will always consider all sides before judging others.
    I will always return the courtesy.

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  854. progress2conserve February 18, 2012 at 2:18 pm #

    “Go to your tribe. It is calling you, buckweed.”
    -mika/met-
    Mika, it certainly looks as though I will have to do just that. It’s obvious that I can’t come to your tribe.
    =============================
    One more try, Bill.
    Definition: Buckweed – “Someone or something that is lame, uncool, or generally disliked. They are often times from the southern part of the United States…”
    “the southern part of the US…”
    How would an Israeli know about an esoteric insult specific to the southern US?

  855. Qshtik February 18, 2012 at 2:32 pm #

    My own family saw the writing on the wall in west Philadelphia in 1960 when housing values in their area fell because new black owners in their neighborhood stopped keeping up their houses and the neighborhood started getting seedy and run down looking. Also, as we all can guess, the property and personal crime in these neighborhoods increased.

    ==============
    I have written of my middle kid, Thom (he added the “h” awhile back for a little flair since the expression “every Tom, Dick and Harry..” made him feel the epitome of ordinariness) who has lived more than 5 years in West Philly near the corner of Chester Ave and 47th (if memory serves). And his girlfriend.. she of the back-breaking bazoooms, so enormous as to require breast reduction surgery in the past year (much to my dismay, though I was wise enough to keep my trap shut), lives about a block and a half from him.
    Son Thom is the perfect result of our liberal age who has in his heart, if not love, tolerance for people of every race, color, creed and national origin, including any of their relatives who might be doing time on a Murder One rap or recently sprung on a technicality.
    Well, enough incidents have happened in his ‘hood, like people being mugged in the 20 feet between the curb where they parked and their front door, to slowly erode his naivete. And his girlfriend learned the only way to discourage car break-in artists, even on her old Hyundai beater, was to leave the hole in the dash (with the wires still hanging out) where there was once a radio and to ALWAYS use “the Club” on her steering wheel.
    As I told before, and will repeat again here because the image is so humorous, Thom was about to hand a dollar to a young black female panhandler in front of a convenience store from which he had just exited after breaking a twenty for the very purpose, when the said chick snatched ALL the bills out of his hand and took off on foot. Thom heaved the can of soda he’d just purchased and hit her square in the back but she merely flinched and kept going.
    The threat of imminent violence was so much on his mind, the next time he came out the door of his apartment he looked around and grabbed the first thing available to carry with him on his way to the corner store that might serve as a weapon. What must the clerk have thought when this modern American Gothic stood there with a hoe ordering coffee, light and sweet?
    E, your family made a wise move back in 1960.

  856. Rhino February 18, 2012 at 2:39 pm #

    Similarly, asoka. is definitely somebody’s caricature of an elderly black man – because he is neither elderly nor black, based on generally observable characteristics. – P2C
    P2C, I hate to tell you this but this Asoka character posted a youtube clip a while back that he said was of himself giving his sentiments on some topic or other. Attached were links to his blog etc.
    I won’t give away who he really is (assuming the youtube clip really was of him talking and the linked info wasn’t fullashit). I’m a prick but I’m not that big a prick. This is supposed to be an anonymous site after all.
    But I will say he is black but he is not elderly. And I’ll leave it at that.
    There were commenters at the time that looked at his youtube clip that said he was lookin’ pretty young for an old black feller. One commenter got pretty nasty about it.
    And Asoka, I won’t reveal who you are. Let this be a lesson. Don’t be too loosey goosey with the personal info. It can come back to bite.

  857. progress2conserve February 18, 2012 at 2:55 pm #

    Oh, come on, Rhino!
    Here’s a movie of me dancing.
    That’s my wife behind me.
    Those are our daughters on the stage.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIW0ojthERY

  858. mika. February 18, 2012 at 3:02 pm #

    Mika, it certainly looks as though I will have to do just that. It’s obvious that I can’t come to your tribe
    ==
    You can always join my tribe, but first we cut your dick off. Not sure if Mr Jimmy mentioned this in his book about apartheid, but that’s how we do things in my tribe.

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  859. Bustin J February 18, 2012 at 3:23 pm #

    Miz Breastly said, “”Anyone and everyone should be allowed to do nothing if they so choose.”
    “if they choose to do nothing, they should be left to their own devices is doing so. Now quit being an ignoramus and go do S-O-M-E-T-H-I-N-G. (Something useful would be nice.)”
    A subsistence benefit doesn’t allow for much more spending than basic health insurance, rent, (basic) food, and clothes from the thrift store.
    People will want income, they will want jobs. There will simply be less reason to get a job simply to pay the rent and live. And for all those that can’t work- they are legion and becoming more populous by the day. For whatever reason, these people, the sick, the marginal mental cases, the indigent, the unfunded retirees, the Morbidly Obese, and the Just Plain Unlucky shouldn’t be shunted into an absurd welfare system which robs them of their dignity and shunts them into bare subsistence.
    A guaranteed minimum income right would take hopeless cases and give them a fighting chance to establish some kind of normative life.
    Or do you like bums in the streets? Then deny them a humane existence that we can certainly afford.
    How about angry disaffected youth without prospects? You offer food stamps and McJobs.
    How about 2/3s of boomers retiring every day- thats 6,600 boomers retiring every day that can’t afford retirement.
    Shit, this concept sells itself.
    The fact is people who believe in Ayn Rand fantasies are a distinct minority.
    Everybody has the notion that they would be better stewards of their money, no the government- that the government wastes money. At this point, the waste is locked in. The government bureaucracy is a failed social safety net where programs like food stamps result in Obese families pigging out of Filet mignon while people with too much income to qualify eat beans and rice.
    There is no social safety net. Anyone is one car accident away from a feeding tube, losing their job, their home, and living on the street.
    America is a fucked up place. I should know, I’ve lived all over it all my life.
    Look at the statistics, its inevitable that this idea will spread and become more and more attractive. The demographic nightmare of tens of millions of our “revered elders” spending their gold years working the counter at the golden arches is disgusting and dishonorable.
    Why have Americans been so easily cowed, so distracted, so bullied into becoming 32nd in the world in education, 14th in quality of life, 23rd in state of health, etc.? Its because Work for Work’s Sake, to prove your eligibility to get past St. Peter in a glorious heavenly afterlife, is a opium of the fucking masses.
    Christianity is sick. “As above, so below” is a shitty way to create a decent society. Either we create the social safety net and liberate the productive capacity of people oppressed by simplistic economic models driven by unsustainable extractive economies, or we will have revolution in the streets, murder in your living room, and the GDP will go in the toilet.
    People aren’t up in arms about the government being hijacked by FIRE-corporate interests because they are trapped in a Darwinian cycle imposed by people who are basically evil.
    This “system” is not the best we can do, it isn’t even close. $14 billion GDP and we let people starve in the streets. The boomers can do something with their political capital that can make their lives- and everyone elses- much better, or they can do nothing and make it much worse.
    Either way everyone knows what will happen to the 5% of GDP that a Guaranteed Income Right would require- the government will use it to stoke a giant bonfire in order to destroy whats left of our social safety net. Or the rest of the broken bureacracy will swallow up to 40% of GDP, and then there will be nothing left, just our desperate forms prostrate before rapacious capitalism.
    We’ll sell off our assets and burn the furniture to heat our houses.

  860. Buck Stud February 18, 2012 at 3:40 pm #

    Rhino,
    I remember that clip and it was just another Asoka spoof. Recall that he also said he was ‘the black guy’ working on the Ethiopian roof video clip, too.
    I tend to believe that Asoka really is black and that he lives in New Mexico…and that he lives in a commune of sorts.

  861. mika. February 18, 2012 at 3:46 pm #

    America is a fucked up place.
    ==
    Very fucked up. Normally I wouldn’t care. The problem is that you’re exporting your sickness everywhere, and I don’t want my country to be anything resembling the US.

  862. asoka. February 18, 2012 at 3:55 pm #

    Rhino, thank you for your kind sentiments. The post which you refer to is this CFN post.
    Here is the complete, unedited content of the post:
    Here is what I say:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX5ueEKsSWc&feature=player_embedded#at=75
    My sentiments via YouTube

    ======================
    The YouTube expressed my sentiments. It said what I felt, so I linked to it. But that is not me in the YouTube. I am not Baratunde Thurston. But those are my sentiments, very well expressed. I should not have said: “This is what I say” Instead I should have said: “This says what I feel.” which I did at the end “My sentiments via YouTube” That was an emotional day. I was clumsy with my wording. The identity confusion is understandable.
    This misunderstanding reminds me of this true story told by an Emergency Room doctor:
    A man comes into the Emergency Room and yells . . . ‘My wife’s going to have her baby in the cab.’
    I grabbed my stuff, rushed out to the cab, lifted the lady’s dress and began to take off her underwear.
    Suddenly I noticed that there were several cabs – – – and I was in the wrong one.

  863. asoka. February 18, 2012 at 3:59 pm #

    You’ve got it wrong, too. And don’t forget that part of the year I am in South America. Why don’t we just drop trying to figure out who is who and just focus on the issues?

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  864. anti soak February 18, 2012 at 4:00 pm #

    Compare this with the last paragraph of yr post!
    subconsciously favored whites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ‘6000 Black People Sue Iowa For Employment Discrimination | News …
    newsone.com/…/6000-black-people-sue-iowa-for-employment-…
    23 hours ago – The plaintiffs, up to 6000 African-Americans passed over for state jobs … argue that managers subconsciously favored whites, leaving blacks …………………….
    [And Q I will proof more and better!]

  865. asoka. February 18, 2012 at 4:06 pm #

    Just to refresh, though I’ve said it many times over the last seven years, I have three causes:
    1) Global overpopulation
    2) Nuclear weapons proliferation
    3) Environmental degradation
    Those are the three most important issues facing humanity, in my opinion, and I have been an activist throughout my life, working on all three.

  866. Buck Stud February 18, 2012 at 4:11 pm #

    So you’re not black? And you don’t reside in New Mexico? You didn’t post those two video clips, claiming to be in the both of them? (Speaking of injecting “personality” into the dialogue.)
    But you’re right: enough of Asoka; lets get back to more relevant topics.

  867. asoka. February 18, 2012 at 4:14 pm #

    I want to thank antisoak for motivating me to look up the family size statistics for Mexican families and Mexican-American families.
    Turns out family size is smaller in the USA.
    So, while crossing the border does not immediately lower global population, eventually it does lower global population. Economic security lowers family size.
    One of the most important things we can do is to provide women with control over their lives and bodies. Patriarchy in the church and patriarchy in the family contribute to increased global population.
    Women should be supported in their desire to study and get a good education.
    Women should be empowered when it comes to questions of marriage and family planning.
    Women should have safe, legal, and easy access to abortion and contraception.

  868. asoka. February 18, 2012 at 4:20 pm #

    I wish we could just forget all about Asoka.
    Sometimes I think I should change my handle and reappear as a different person with a different personality. I have multitudes.
    Being someone familiar with the arts, Buck Stud, I imagine you know the etymology of the word “personality.”
    person
    from Latin persona “human being,” originally “character in a drama, mask,” possibly borrowed from Etruscan phersu “mask.”

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  869. charliefoxtrot February 18, 2012 at 4:46 pm #

    seems to me that the education leads to everything else naturally…in fact, it is the linchpin to most, if not all of the problems facing the world today…not that i would know how to go about fixing the lack, other than by building on the platforms already in place- somehow make it a priority at local levels to (gasp!) pay a decent salary to decent teachers; and to use the old ‘carrot & stick’ method of incentivizing parents to gain control of their children again, and make the fuckers pay attention…especially in health class, right?! of course, a large part of that particular problem is that parents these days have to work so hard and long that there s little or no time & energy left to deal with the kids’ schooling and social developement…where dya start, huh?

  870. progress2conserve February 18, 2012 at 5:04 pm #

    “You can always join my tribe, but first we cut your dick off.”
    -mika/met-
    Well, OK then Mika.
    When’s the next meeting?
    I’ll line up for the procedure right behind you.
    Since I’m a typical Goy, maybe they could take off just the first 6 inches, and I’d still have enough left to stand out in the crowd.
    asoka turned me into his definition of a “RACIST,” on CFN about 6 months ago.
    Now mika has rendered me an anti Semite, following his own unique criteria.
    Reductio ad absurdum, indeed.
    Speaking of absurd, no one has mentioned infinite love for a finite planet since one slipped by me last night.
    Ladies and gentlemen, I will bid you a fine good evening with this statement of infinite truth:
    For living humans on Earth, there is a limit to how many people we can love.

  871. asoka. February 18, 2012 at 5:41 pm #

    For living humans on Earth, there is a limit to how many people we can love.
    If you are trying to provoke me, it won’t work. 🙂

  872. wagelaborer February 18, 2012 at 5:57 pm #

    I don’t feel bad for Obama. If we had national health care, instead of his forced, employer-based, subsidized insurance company bailout, what Catholic hospitals try to tell their insurance companies to pay for wouldn’t be a problem.
    The whole thing, in my opinion, is another ring in our bread and circuses.
    That said, my daughter mentioned today that she has been watching a lot of TV. She said that there was an episode of Gray’s Anatomy in which a character had an abortion. But they never said the “A” word. They tip-toed around it, and spoke of it in hushed and shocked tones.
    She said she’s been watching old “Roseanne”s and “Fresh Prince of Bel Air”s and the attitude was very different back then.
    Hell, I said. Back in the 70s, we were demanding free abortions, on demand.
    We’re on our way to The Handmaid’s Tale, all right.

  873. Buck Stud February 18, 2012 at 6:26 pm #

    Asoka,
    In my previous post I casually mentioned why “Asoka” might have become such a personality here on CFN. Anyway, I was trying to honor your request – “Why don’t we just drop trying to figure out who is who and just focus on the issues?”- and not unmask the personality of Asoka.
    This has not been a good week on CFN, IMO.

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  874. bubbleheadMarc February 18, 2012 at 7:25 pm #

    Agreed. Obamacare, so called, is bogus and will actually retard job growth. Had the Democrats taken advantage of their control of both houses and the executive branch to enact national health insurance that would have spurred hiring by relieving employers of the onerous burden of providing health insurance. What is entailed in the measures adopted into law is the proposed enslavement of all of us to the private insurance industry. Of course we already are their slaves since it is mainly the insurance industry which is telling employers to drug test everyone including even part time employees. Just think about that one: in exchange for a part time minimum wage job you get to be drug tested in order to enable your employer to supervise your entire off duty activities in exchange for a job which doesn’t even pay enough to support yourself. That is if you can find a part time job or jobs. What employers really want to hire is slave labor in China living in company dormitories which can be roused from sleep in the middle of the night to go back to work to make whatever last minute changes in the production line which were requested by your owner-employer.

  875. mika. February 18, 2012 at 7:40 pm #

    Well, OK then Mika.
    When’s the next meeting?
    ==
    There are no meetings, ’cause we all know the game plan: Kill whitey.

  876. asoka. February 18, 2012 at 8:17 pm #

    This has not been a good week on CFN, IMO.
    I absolutely agree. It has been painful, full of conflict, lacking universal love.

  877. Buck Stud February 18, 2012 at 8:32 pm #

    LOL! Somehow you manage to sneak in the last barb.As for me, I’m raising the white flag and moving on.

  878. charliefoxtrot February 18, 2012 at 8:37 pm #

    there is no limit to the amount of love that asoka can proffess for himself and/or others…

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  879. trippticket February 18, 2012 at 8:44 pm #

    Useful skills for a new future, chapter 3:
    Cut water sprouts from my 3 European pear varieties this morning and grafted them onto my friend’s “pear tree of many colors.” One of many good ways to spend a Saturday morning…

  880. asoka. February 18, 2012 at 9:21 pm #

    It was a good way to spend Saturday morning if you were able to match specialized tissue with its like. You won’t know how well the time was spent until you know if there is any foreign body rejection.
    The European pear root stock’s first response will be to expel alien tissue and close the wound.
    Infection with fungi, bacteria and viruses are hazards also, so I hope you used clean tools in hygienic surroundings.
    Love and prayers for the wounds caused also might be helpful. Plants respond to universal love.

  881. Michigan Native February 18, 2012 at 10:02 pm #

    Just when I thought my mind could not have been more blown by reading “the 5 stages of collapse” and then “Reinventing Collpase” by Dmitry Orlov, I chose to sell my kenny bell supercharged twin turbo ninja mustang GT and made enough spare change sfter crushing bills from some poor sap (who is obviously “sleep walking” into the future) that bought it at auction to expand on this topic of peak oil/deindustrialization/end of growth to buy 3 books. Crossing The Rubicon by Michael Ruppert (whom I can’t figure out if he’s a little crazy or just has a death wish, but dares to go where most fear to tread), The Long Emergency by James Howard Kunstler (not enough words to praise, have read it 3 times so far) , and the End Of Growth by Richard Heinberg (confirms what the former authors say but really does a great job explaining the efficacy of alternate, renewable energy sources, something I had hoped someone would expose to break down the wall of denial that so many people have as they insist technology will save us, that we will create cars that run on water, etc)
    From the opening salvo of “The Long Emergency”, I knew this would be one of the mind blowing occasions, similar to when I read “The Closing Circle” by Barry Commoner (rather eloquent and clearly makes one aware of the fragility of the environment, its importance, and some of the problems we were wreaking on her in the 1970s….many new ones since then, I always hoped Barry Commoner would write more, but I haven’t seen any updates), “Democracy For The Few” by Michael Parenti (explains in great and irrefutable detail how the system works and whose interests in serves. I still believe if enough people read that book as well as others he has written, there would be a revolution in this country), Reinventing Collapse (the US will fail for the same reasons the former USSR collapsed, for that matter, why all empires collapse. They over shoot and go broke.) He gives his first hand expereince of what happened in the former USSR and offers invaluable insights as to where/how the US is vulnerable and how we may mitigate our impending collapse and deindustrialize in conditions that are safe and dignified.
    The Long Emergency. Where to begin. My first thought after reading the book was to e-mail Mr Kunstler and shower my praise and suggest he should write a sequel, “The Impending Disaster”. Alot has happened since that last edition. The Gulf and Fukushima disasters and what I believe in a cover up of the magnitude and long term consequences of these events. The ascension of Obama our “change we can believe in” president who balked at his promise to get us out of Iraq,expanded our quagmire in Afghanistan, was involved in the murder of Qaddafy because he was encouraging oil rich African and Muslim countries to unite and dump the soon to be worthless US petro dollar for a gold backed dinar, and new currency that would have rivaled both the dollar and the euro. On New Year’s eve, he signed into law the “national defense authorization act”, which allegedly gives the US military the power to arrest and indefinetly detain anyone whom is viewed as a “threat to national security”, without due process, benefit of a trial, or access to legal assistance. Sound like the death squads of El Salvador? For awhile I was hoping Ron Paul would run as an independent and run ads against Obama and Romney using the lyrics “meet the new boss, same as the old boss”…..until Dmitry once again reminded some that grasp for denial as the ship goes down that voting will avert the impending disaster. There is no free market solution to environmental devastation/resource depletion, and the Paulians, although well intended, are hopless cornucopians endless growth delusionists just like the other 2 party circus whores.
    There is no coherent energy policy put in place, so the time is due for a sequel, the Impending Disaster. The US is going to get caught off guard and blind sided, we who are so used to watching violence and stupidity (Whiteny Houston, the super bowl, etc) on our HD flat screen televisions will be lucky if we have the electricity in the years to come to watch our own collapse, let alone the energy to heat/cool your homes, keep the lights on, or put food on the table.
    Great work, Mr Kunstler. We need an update.

  882. Pucker February 18, 2012 at 10:06 pm #

    Great short video on “Peak Oil” entitled “There’s No Tomorrow” at:
    http://cluborlov.blogspot.com

  883. asoka. February 18, 2012 at 10:33 pm #

    Michigan Native, nice summary of books. You say: “There is no coherent energy policy put in place”
    but a year ago a coherent USA vision of energy policy was released,
    BLUEPRINT FOR A SECURE ENERGY FUTURE
    You mentioned HD flat screen TVs and not having enough electricity to view our own collapse, but you did not mention not having enough electricity to run the internet.
    The electricity needed to power and cool the millions of servers that make the Internet possible has grown by more than 10% a year for the last decade, yet I never read on CFN about when we are going to lose access to the internet, which now accounts for about 2% of all the electricity consumed in the United States.
    If you think there is going to be a structural collapse that affects JHK’s Monday morning posts, let me know when you think that will happen.
    I don’t think we are going to see a STRUCTURAL collapse with a nationwide impact on the things you are worried about: “the energy to heat/cool your homes, keep the lights on, or put food on the table.”
    And if you are truly worried about those things, here are the solutions:
    1) adobe sun-cured earthen brick passive solar small houses (what many here pejoratively call “mud huts”) for thermal mass heating and cooling efficiency,
    2) small-scale solar panel installations for electricity, and
    3) permaculture for horticultural food production.

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  884. Vlad Krandz February 18, 2012 at 10:36 pm #

    Prog, than you for explain that allusion to me.
    Vlad, don’t mention it – thank you for explain the Jewish situation to me, and inviting me to go to Heaven.

  885. Vlad Krandz February 18, 2012 at 10:49 pm #

    What about Bacteria, Viruses, and Fungi – don’t they need love too?

  886. anti soak February 18, 2012 at 11:10 pm #

    Puck..its 35 minutes long!
    Humorous note..here in the Prius Capital of the world.
    I GOT A LARGE COLOR POSTCARD TODAY FROM THE CITY
    [AS DID 60,000 OTHERS I GUESS]
    THE CITYS GLOATING OVER GETTING MONEY FOR GREEN JOBS TRAINING…FROM TARP I GUESS.
    ‘FAST GROWING FIELD OF RECYCLING’
    WWW2.SMC.EDU/UPDATES
    5 MILLION DOLLAR GRANT FROM DEPT OF LABOR.

  887. Eleuthero February 18, 2012 at 11:13 pm #

    Q.,
    I appreciate the anecdote about your Son. It illustrates the tragicomical adage that a liberal is “a conservative who hasn’t been mugged yet”.
    The most dispiriting aspect of the “race debate” on this Forum is the Orwellian replacement of hard data with smiley-faced slogans. It’s very sad to see many people who are quite rational about economic, resource, and political issues suddenly grow mute or, worse, red-faced with hysterical rage when people cite simple, publicly-available demographic data about the relationship between a person’s ethnic group and their conduct as citizens or students.
    Blacks, in particular, are amazingly racist and will vote for someone JUST because he is black while it took white America for Obama to get elected. Personally, I’ve had it up to my eyeballs with this idea that whites are the prime source of racial hatred. Unfortunately, liberals are the absolute worst end of the political sector for objectivity about race, crime, and education.
    Thus, even though I’m a disenfranchised conservative, there’s no way I could ever be a liberal, especially after working in a school for 22 years. The Pigs in Orwell’s “Animal Farm” have nothing on current California school administrators.
    E.

  888. anti soak February 18, 2012 at 11:14 pm #

    barenakedislam
    THAILAND: Muslims in the South are slaughtering Buddhists in order to ethnically cleanse the area
    Muslims account for a mere 4.6% of population, yet have been spreading fear among the indigenous Buddhists of the region, using violence and brutality. They have resorted to the random killing of Buddhists, including school teachers and Buddhist monks…………………………
    (WARNING: Graphic Images)
    (WARNING: Graphic Images)
    (WARNING: Graphic Images)

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  889. Eleuthero February 18, 2012 at 11:23 pm #

    P2C said:
    In your failure to speak out against even ONE of the WORST of Mika/Met’s hate-filled and illogical posts – – You demonstrate that your Tribe means more to you than does your Country.
    **************************************************************
    That about sums it up. Mika/Met has threatened to bash CFN members’ heads in with a baseball bat, his anger is so relentless that it resembles florid mania, and his multiple identities show cowardice.
    I absolutely concur with you, P2C, and I would say that SADNESS was the emotion I experienced when confronted with Bill’s “my tribe right or wrong” loyalty which shocked me because he’s rational in most other topics of conversation.
    However, now that I know the nature of the “lens” he’s looking through, it’s almost impossible for me to retreat, psychologically, to my impression of Bill prior to his shockingly racist statements. I believe that even Vlad would not defend, for example, a violent white person MERELY because of his whiteness.
    This site grows ever more suspect as a place for sentient beings.
    E.

  890. charliefoxtrot February 18, 2012 at 11:32 pm #

    E- take heart in the undisputable fact that there is no limit to the amount of love that can be bestowed upon a mud hut…

  891. asoka. February 18, 2012 at 11:37 pm #

    Pucker, thank you for the link to the video.
    I watched the whole 35 minutes. Here are some quick reactions:
    1) In the discussion of nuclear they only mention uranium (which is limited), and did not mention Thorium (which is plentiful), scaleable, already tested for four years, and does not produce weapons-grade waste (which is probably why it has not been developed).
    2) In the discussion of biofuels, all the examples were land-based giving the impression that productive food-producing areas would be competing with biofuel production. They did not mention use of non-productive land areas (like deserts) for biofuel production using algae.
    3) In the discussion of solar, again they only mentioned land-based solar applications. They did not mention space-based solar, which is 24/7, in other words it is solar energy production day and night. There is no loss of energy at night.
    I have discussed all of these alternatives and more in previous months/years on CFN, so I’m not going to do it again. Just pointing out the video did not discuss possible solutions that are scalable, zero-emission, and don’t require massive fossil fuel inputs (i.e., solutions that have a very good EROEI).
    The other thing briefly mentioned (in a World Made By Hand kind of way), is that voluntary energy descent combined with development of alternatives could ease us into a soft landing, rather than a catastrophic collapse.
    Also the video focuses exclusively on growth as a given, specifically economic growth, and does not focus on strategies for voluntary reduction of global population. It is global overpopulation that is requiring the economic growth.

  892. rippedthunder February 18, 2012 at 11:45 pm #

    Welcome aboard MN, please try to keep an even keel. There are many posters on this blog. Some are pertinent, some are, Well may I say obtuse? Have fun, bust balls, laugh and love! RT

  893. charliefoxtrot February 18, 2012 at 11:50 pm #

    sorry, couldn t resist…re bill and his defense of mika: the sense i got was that he was more trying to stand up against what he saw as jew-bashing rather than specific violence on mika s part- plus some hold-over from childhood…not that i m trying to defend him; but i think i understand…you have to admit that, on this particular issue, most here come down pretty hard on one side or the other…i know it gets old for me, and i don t give a fuck for any religion; i m with bill maher on this one: organized religion most resembles a neurological disorder…and i doubt you ll get anyone, christian jew or racist, to admit a change in belief…

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  894. asoka. February 18, 2012 at 11:51 pm #

    THE BILLION YEAR PLAN
    Solar energy can be harnessed by establishing space stations in outer space in order to tap solar power round the clock.
    Addressing scientists and faculty at Anna University on Monday, Dr Kalam said that the sun radiates about 10 trillion times the energy which humans consume across the world today.
    If we were able to extract even a small portion of this energy from the sun, it would be sufficient to secure the energy demands of our future.
    “Space based solar power has many advantages over traditional terrestrial based solar plants. First, the level of solar irradiance is about 1.4 times in extraterrestrial level than at the surface of the earth.
    Second, in case of surface based solar power plants the panels can collect solar power for about 6 to 8 hours a day, whereas, in the case of space based power plant, the collection time is full 24 hours”, he said.
    Pointing out that space based solar power plants do not get affected by weather, which might bring down the efficiency in case of terrestrial power plant, the former President said that thus space based solar power plant would be far more effective in their efficiency and power generation than the land based systems.
    “There are three major focus areas in the space based solar power plant. First component is the space based solar power plant.
    Second, is the earth based collection system and the third important aspect is the medium of transmission from space to earth”, he added.
    Dr Kalam suggested that the energy should be transmitted from space back to earth – either through microwave or any other technology like laser. Careful research of the impact and safety concerns would have to be conducted.

  895. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 12:00 am #

    OILGAE
    Everyone has heard the algae pitch by now. The rapid-growing, single-celled buggers produce an inordinate amount of oil. Approximately 30 percent of their body mass in a natural state is lipid content and genetic engineering and selective breeding can pop it up closer to 70 percent. The whole North Sea oil field was once a giant algal bloom.
    Algae proponents say they will ultimately be able to get 5,000 to 10,000 gallons of oil per acre per year from algae. That’s better than cellulosic ethanol where the optimistic prognosis is 2,700 gallons. A couple of thousand square miles of desert land and you could provide all of the fuel the U.S. needs, in theory.
    Solazyme says it will be in position to produce algae-based fuel that’s competitively priced in two to three years.
    The primary inputs for growing algae are water, CO2, and sunlight. This activity would be best accomplished closer to the desert, where seasonal sunlight levels and temperatures don’t vary as much as they do further away from the equator.
    Another possible method to increase production would be to put the photobioreactors near a conventional coal-burning electric plant and harvest the significant amounts of CO2 generated by the plant. As attractive as it sounds, the production of Biodiesel shouldn’t depend on the coal plant operating indefinitely since that wouldn’t be a sustainable long term strategy.

  896. rippedthunder February 19, 2012 at 12:03 am #

    So the other night, I’am glad I was off. It was my old group though. A car hits a tree, flips and goes up in flames. Four kids in the car. Luckily a navy vet fire fighter lives nearby. Everyboby makes it out but a young women dies at the scene. What a tragedy! You folks dicker about bullshit, yet life hangs in the balance everytime you leave your house. Not even your house. Shit, you could be gone in the AM from CO. Who the fuck knows? Count your gotdam blesings and stop complaining!

  897. Pucker February 19, 2012 at 12:04 am #

    Anti Soak said: “Puck..its 35 minutes long!”
    I think that it was Einstein who said that Space and Time are the same. According to my calculation, 35 minutes is equal to the standard 5 to 6 inches. What are you complaining about?

  898. Pucker February 19, 2012 at 12:06 am #

    Orlov’s interview with Max Keiser also found on Orlov’s blog is interesting too.

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  899. rippedthunder February 19, 2012 at 12:08 am #

    Mother ***ker. My last crew said it was a mess!
    http://www.wwlp.com/dpp/news/local/hampden/18-year-old-killed-in-westfield-accident

  900. Pucker February 19, 2012 at 12:08 am #

    Why hasn’t anyone mentioned Soylent Green as a viable alternative food source?

  901. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 12:20 am #

    NUCLEAR AMMONIA
    The liquid fluoride thorium reactor (LFTR) has the potential to make electric power cheaper than from coal. Typical costs for electric power bought by US utilities average around 5-6 cents per kilowatt hour generated by coal, hydro, and natural gas sources. Government regulations are requiring utilities to buy solar- and wind-generated power at 20-30 cents/kWh. LFTR’s potential cost advantage of 3 cents/kWh is the economic incentive to stop burning CO2-emitting coal, without economically injurious carbon taxes and politically obscured feed-in tariffs. In this way LFTR can improve both the environment and the economy.
    There is an additional way to benefit from LFTR’s inexpensive power — synthesizing liquid fuels to replace petroleum. The world gets 37% of its energy from petroleum, vs 21% from coal. A typical nuclear reactor power plant generates about 1 GW (1000 MW) of electric power. A large refinery produces 40 GW of power in the form of gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel. Liquid petroleum fuels contribute to global warming yet are essential to the global economy. Their high energy density and portability make them attractive energy sources for vehicles such as cars, trucks, trains, ships, and airplanes; these all carry their energy sources with them. We can use more LFTR-sourced power for more high speed electric trains and for more small short-range automobiles; we can use LFTR power plants to propel large ocean-going vessels. But we can’t electrify commercial airliners and trucks because they cannot carry heavy, bulky batteries with them.
    Petroleum’s high energy density and a century of engineering experience in its use have made it essential to the US economy, and our thirst for it runs to 260 billion gallons per year, of which we import 65% at a cost of $400 billion per year. Our protective presence in the Persian Gulf is estimated to have cost over $7 trillion.
    Methanol is a reasonable substitute for gasoline, favored by Nobel laureate George Olah; dimethyl ether can substitute for diesel fuel. Both require carbon sources, perhaps from new carbon-capture facilities at new coal plants. That carbon will be eventually released into the atmosphere when the fuel is burned; we borrowed it on the way out of the coal plant.
    But what happens if we stop burning coal? Project Green Freedom proposes capturing CO2 from air, but its density is only 0.035% of air. Nitrogen is plentiful in the atmosphere (78%) and returning it to the air is nonpolluting. Consider ammonia for fuel. Ammonia is the second most common industrial chemical.
    Ammonia has been the fuel for the record setting X-15 airplane. The University of Michigan has an ammonia-fueled truck. In Belgium in World War II ammonia fuel powered buses. Today’s flex-fuel internal combustion engines are able to run on a variety of fuels ranging from gasoline to E85 (85% ethanol, 15% gasoline). Reportedly flex-fuel engines can be adapted to run on a miscible mixture of ammonia and a small amount of dimethyl ether or ammonia mixed with reformed ammonia on the way to the engine.
    Ammonia is such a common industrial chemical that pipelines distribute it in the farm states. It is transported and contained in tanks under modest pressure, similar to propane. It is potentially hazardous to inhale; a 1% concentration inhaled for 1 hour has a 1% fatality risk. However ammonia is readily detected by its odor, and being lighter than air it rapidly dilutes in a spill. Unlike gasoline or diesel fuel, it does not catch fire in an accident; the ignition temperature is 650 C. Considering all such risks, the health hazard of ammonia is about the same as gasoline.
    The hydrogen electrolysis or thermal dissociation step can be eliminated via solid-state ammonia synthesis, operating like a solid-oxide fuel cell, but in reverse. It similarly has a ceramic proton conducting membrane. It has the advantage that there is never any separated explosive hydrogen gas and it operates at low pressure. Nitrogen is obtained from the ASU (air separation unit). Water supplies the hydrogen. The ceramic membranes are tubes and the SSAS can be scaled up by using more tubes. The SSAS process is safer and cheaper than the standard Haber-Bosch process. The key cost advantage is that SSAS is projected to make ammonia at 6800 kWh per ton. With factory reactor production, LFTR electric power is projected to cost $0.03/kWh, leading to ammonia costs of about $200 per ton. This is half the cost of ammonia produced today from natural gas, and it avoids the release of carbon dioxide in that widespread manufacturing process.
    The heat of combustion is the thermal energy that would be released in an internal combustion engine. Taking account of the different prices and heats of combustion of ammonia and gasoline illustrates that energy from ammonia is one-third the cost of energy from gasoline.

  902. rippedthunder February 19, 2012 at 12:20 am #

    So I have question for all my CFN frens’. I know I bore you as I am not as well read as yourselves. So this is it. If one of your loved ones was to die, would you prefer a quick death, sudden heart attack/stroke with no goodbyes, or a prolonged agonizing death such as bone cancer with a long goodbye but agony for your loved one? I don’t know . I have seen it both ways. Thanks for your comments. RT

  903. charliefoxtrot February 19, 2012 at 12:48 am #

    that s a good question…only experience i have so far is my grandmother is still hanging on- mostly due to a combination of oxy and pure grit…i suspect it comes down to when she is ready to give up; i just wish i could have gotten to know her…from what i ve been told, she is one strong lady, who made it through some tough times…

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  904. BeantownBill February 19, 2012 at 12:57 am #

    Asoka, you’re preaching to the choir with me regarding alternate energy. Unlike many CFNers, I don’t think we’re fucked. Several alternate energy sources could permanently resolve the issue of peak oil. Furthermore, we can resolve our food production and topsoil erosion issues with widespread aquaponics, and our water shortage problems with advances in cost-effective desalinization technology. Doesn’t it seem kind of foolish that we really do have water issues, despite there being many gazillions of gallons of H2O right in our oceans? Plans exist, on theoretical, experimental and developmental levels to re-aquify the Sahara Desert. It could also be re-liquified by towing parts of Antarctic glaciers to the region.
    The ultimate issues have to do with the emotional immaturity of the human species. It seems our technological progress has outpaced our emotional evolution. And the poster child for our lack of maturity is politics. All our modern peak resource issues could be resolved in time with effective political action. But no, we have to start and fight tragic wars and perpetuate human suffering because some people have greed and power problems and superiority complexes.

  905. BeantownBill February 19, 2012 at 1:01 am #

    RT, I’d opt for a fairly quick death, but not a sudden death. I’d like just a little time to say goodbye to my loved one, and to prepare myself for the great loss I’ll soon be suffering.

  906. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 1:09 am #

    Thanks, BeanTownBill.
    We are the minority when it comes to discussions of energy on CFN.
    The majority believe in the mantra:
    “We’re so fucked!”
    It is a CFN prophecy.
    Have to admit that CFN mantra does relieve one of responsibility. All you have to do is just throw out prophecy-fulfilling phrases like “carrying capacity” or “nothing scales” or “overshoot” and our doom is guaranteed.
    Or maybe we just enjoy being contrarians.

  907. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 2:05 am #

    Along a high-speed rail line in Belgium, sit 16,000 solar panels atop two miles of man-made tunnel. The Solar Tunnel marks the first time in European history that a railway infrastructure has been used to generate clean power.
    That solar energy now operates the signaling, lighting, and heating systems for stations and junctions along the train’s route from Antwerp to Amsterdam, making the train, an already greener form of transportation, that much more self-sustainable.
    The panels, installed through a collaboration of municipalities, solar developer Enfinity, and installer Solar Power Systems, are expected to produce over 3,000 megawatt-hours of electricity each year. That’s enough to power 950 homes. Civic development at its finest.

  908. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 2:14 am #

    MIT researcher Daniel Nocera has developed what he calls an Artificial Leaf, a potentially groundbreaking energy storage technology that successfully mimics nature.
    In a photosynthesis-like process, the ‘leaf’ uses solar energy to split water into hydrogen and oxygen. The emitted gases could then be stored in a fuel cell, making off-grid living beyond feasible.
    Not only that, but Nocera says that his leaf’s efficiency outperforms nature by a factor of 10.

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  909. Vlad Krandz February 19, 2012 at 3:02 am #

    Al contraire, much useful work has been accomplished: the fungi of hatred flourishes in the darkness – Prog, Eleuthero, Anti-Soak, and I merely shined the light on it.
    As the old song says, I beg your pardon, did I promise you a rose garden? Who says reality is always going to manifest in a pleasant way? Bill has a wound seeping with pus and we lanced it. It hurts? Of course, but it had to be done.

  910. Qshtik February 19, 2012 at 3:05 am #

    the power to arrest and indefinetly detain anyone whom is viewed
    ==========
    Mich, I commend you on this entire piece. Your writing is excellent. And while I’m at it, ditto for many others who write here such as Eleuthero, Buck Stud, Bustin J., Bubbleheadmarc and others who should not feel denigrated just because I have not mentioned them by name.
    HOWEVER, just because I have commended you does not mean I felt every word in your post was flawless. In the excerpt above I, frankly, don’t know if it is more correct to use who or whom (I have never gotten the rules straight) and I suspect at least half the people who comment here don’t know either… Anti Soak (in addition to myself) would be a prime example. So, in an instance like the excerpt above, if it is possible to avoid entirely the question of whether to use who or whom (and it IS possible) I would do so. Therefore I would have written the sentence leaving out “whom is” so it would read: “…the power to arrest and indefinitely detain anyone viewed… ” Their is the added beauty of “not writing a sentence that contains any unnecessary words” as is advised in The Elements of Style by Strunk and White.
    I look forward to reading more posts from you.

  911. Vlad Krandz February 19, 2012 at 3:12 am #

    Jew bashing or telling the truth? Bill Maher is your idea of objective? He’s a Christian basher. Sure every now and then he’ll make a joke against Jews just to cover himself – but it’s like 1 for 20 insults against Christians.

  912. Vlad Krandz February 19, 2012 at 3:22 am #

    Correct: I would not defend a White murderer. That’s how we’re different. Blacks always try to get their murderers off either because they’re Black or because they’re just anti-White or Anti-System.
    Some Whites are like this of course when it comes to their own family. But Blacks extend this to their whole Race in a White Country – and that just isn’t viable.

  913. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 3:22 am #

    Solar costs have already come down by as much as 50% in the past 5 years. Over the next decade, prices should come down even more dramatically, thanks to a renewed interest in this promising technology. Before long solar power will achieve the holy grail: compete with fossil fuel generated power, without government incentives.
    Of course, the oil companies will continue to get billions in government subsidies every year.

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  914. old69 February 19, 2012 at 4:31 am #

    From:
    http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=178178
    Instant Singularity 4
    With regards to the fact that Man is the infinitely programmable machine: I have often described the Instant Singularity, or better one of the many millions of different possible types of Instant Singularities as occuring by changing the wiring of Man Brains, making them do things differently, connecting all the subsystems in different ways, nay, inventing completely new subsystems (memory systems in mind, emotional systems, sense organ systems, etc.) and in fact I often use expressions like “Stick a Jet Engine in your Brain”, shove wild symbols, signals and chemicals in the ball of meat that is the man Brain, everything you see around you could be a new design for a new Man Brain as in everything is a brain, as in BRAINIUM, etc.
    But, this is kind of over doing it, is going too fast and too forward too soon: I was looking at a baby play, ad was thinking, you don’t even need to change the wirings to start experimenting, you just need to change the way the Man Brain is programmed from the set of signals and reactions the Man Brain gets used to respond too: of course the baby is programmed culturally, linguistically, to respond to certain invariants in the environment, but a new born Man Brain is a blank piece of paper, you could associate anything with anything, program it in an infinite number of new ways, it could grow up in a completely new universe and experience space if programmed in such a way: granted a far call, it is far out, but I can imagine Man Brains, as they are presently configured being programmed by computers, or the entire Man, the entire body living in completely artificial environments where the rules and associations are decided by supercomputers (or randomly or scientifically or artistically, you name it) trying out all the possibilities, possible combinations, possible new configurations, wildy new and creative and colorful associations, relationships, new modes of memory and emotion usage, etc. of the Man brain as it is presently configured: I think, already, as is, the possibilities of these Man Brains entering completely new universes with completely new laws of physics, completely new and wild and incredible experiences, new kinds of Instant Singularities are completely possible.
    AN APE MAN

  915. lbendet February 19, 2012 at 7:55 am #

    Money Can’t Buy Ya Love
    Getting back to Making Mr. Right, can’t, help but smile when I see Willard’s numbers.
    He’s getting outflanked by the crazy K street boy, Sanitorium. This is the guy who brought his dead baby, who died in childbirth home to show the kids and is against birth control.
    All the bolstering by the Rep Party political machine may not push this guy into nomination, after all. Imagine the mixed emotions Rove feels backing this buffoon. All that money, all those negative ads, just won’t seal the deal with the American people.
    Romney, the moderate Republican claims to be a “severe conservative”, thus everything that he does and says must conform to this new model of himself. You know, the Mr. Right automaton. No wonder he keeps messing up. Time to get those wires rearranged.
    When left to his own devices this man falls flat. He goes to his “home” state and declares to the workers that he would have let the auto industry go into “controlled” bankruptcy. Hey, has anyone ever noticed that “privatized” industry does not actually invest in failing business other than to slice, dice and pick of the valuables?—Anyways, Michigan feels right—the trees are the right height.
    Huh? what does that mean?
    It was amusing to see Rush Limbaugh bouncing in his chair asking what severe conservative means.
    Yesterday I came across a Greg Palast interview, which I posted on this site and hope someone watched this. He wrote a book, “Vultures Picnic”, which shines light on the billionaires who the surpass the party machine and are the real voters in this election.
    Please read:
    http://www.gregpalast.com/the-billionaires-brokered-gop-convention/#more-5723
    The last paragraph:
    [By moving money in and out of selected primaries like a piston, Restore Our Future can shoo Santorum and Gingrich away from the nomination – and, with a bit of luck, the Romney campaign ends up in Tampa dead on arrival.
    Then the Vulture and the Richie Rich Club can gnaw at Romney’s political corpse and regurgitate the nomination for the cat’s paw of their choice.]
    I can’t wait to see who they come up with….
    Could it be Jeb?

  916. ozone February 19, 2012 at 8:02 am #

    Great post, Michigan Native, and a timely sale of the heavy metal! :o)
    I’ve been attempting to pique a little interest in alternate transport involving diesel engines, as they’re hardier, simpler and more fuel-versatile.
    But that’s neither for this blog or its’ denizens; it’s for local “consumption”. Too many cornucopians spoil the work ethic.
    ;o)
    As to your literary advisers, I’d say you’ve picked the pragmatic ones, which is important as I believe time is running shorter than we’d like. Although preparation is no guarantee, it sure would be nice to have a little help with local approaches to growing more foodstuffs, some sustainable energy production, reasonable transport expectations and all the “etceteras” that may make human life viable after an inevitable collapse.
    (When I see all the scrap metal leaving this country, I’m gobsmacked at the short-sighted stupidity of it.)
    Interestingly, Dmitri O. is much less optimistic than before. He now believes than things have been “put off til tomorrow” for so long, that social, political, and financial collapse will all happen at the same time, rather than us becoming somewhat used to the changing paradigms in a one-after-the-other cascade of dominoes.
    (If there’s a environmental collapse atop all that, then it truly will be time to put the tools away and kiss mama Gaia b’bye. ;o)
    Anyhoo, best of luck, and keep on til you can’t.

  917. ozone February 19, 2012 at 8:12 am #

    LB,
    Watched the interview last night. A good one, to be sure!
    Notice how those considered “the fringe whackos” are beginning to coalesce around the central point of pulling the curtain aside on the return to fascist feudalism? Ron Paul is no longer pulling his punches either, as the authoritarians have decided to dispense with any further wearing of a mask of benevolence.
    Interesting times ahead, and thanks for the links (as always)…

  918. kulturcritic* February 19, 2012 at 8:13 am #

    For a look at the coming demise, check out this video. kC
    http://kulturcritic.wordpress.com/2012/02/19/theres-no-tomorrow/

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  919. lbendet February 19, 2012 at 8:24 am #

    O,
    I saw that interview on Orlov’s page too.
    Yeah, while the folks on this blog that is supposed to address sustainability are lead by Darth Vlad to the dark side of lizard brain racism etc.
    We are going to be dealing with some real man-made manufactured horror mixed with the inevitable reality based environmental destruction and energy depletion.
    In the meantime our wealth will be taken out from under us, well before the reality of energy depletion even hits. You will wish the government was functioning properly. There will be no protection for the people against the rampant privatization that we saw in South America and now Europe.
    Watch as Greece gets sold off in parcels. That is our future.–Say good-bye to the National Parks….

  920. ozone February 19, 2012 at 8:28 am #

    MN,
    Speaking of heavy metal, here’s a fun link:
    http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html
    I like the trailer concept for hauling the distillery around, and it may blow yer hair back that this gas works best with larger displacement engines. (We knew those old big-blocks were good for sumpthin’!)

  921. ozone February 19, 2012 at 8:33 am #

    Thanks for the wake-up buzz on the Bat-phone! lol
    (I feel less delusional already!)

  922. lbendet February 19, 2012 at 8:53 am #

    LOL back at ‘cha

  923. charliefoxtrot February 19, 2012 at 9:25 am #

    i know! i know! (hand raised in the air, bouncing in my seat): “whom” is to be used when it is the object of the verb; “who” when the noun…: ‘who is giving the prize’; ‘to whom is the prize to be given?’…that ll be $1.67, please

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  924. charliefoxtrot February 19, 2012 at 9:32 am #

    read the post, flad- ‘ANY organized religion’…and no, i don t consider him objective, i consider him a mirror held up to idiocy- and as it happens, i do not agree with all of his views; any more than i agree with all of anyone’s views…

  925. Miljenko February 19, 2012 at 9:35 am #

    Mr. Kunstler, do you think that in the post-oil world, there’s also going to be a pressure to reinstitute slavery, due to inevitable absence of functioning machinery?

  926. bubbleheadMarc February 19, 2012 at 9:47 am #

    I know where you’re coming from. The chief application of liberalism in the public schools has been a misguided leveling which has rendered the entire system inoperative. All of these mainstreaming lame brains should be locked in the stocks as in colonial America so that the dogshit of reality can be liberally applied to their closed eyes. To me this sort of smiley faced liberalism is more a cultural phenomenon and not directly related to the socialist-capitalist nexus. Everyone should stop voting for school levies. To get a truly awesome description of the shutdown in American education try reading “The Twilight of American Culture” by Morris Berman. In essence, the schools at each and every level have painted themselves into the corner of dysfunctionality owing to false notions regarding elitism, social promotion, and the importance of popularity in evaluations of college professors. Then at Job Corps we had a semi-literate education coordinator who was hired simply because she had belonged to the AKA sorority while attending some crap open admissions “university” in Ohio which was part of the state system. She was eventually terminated when caught engaged in coitus atop her desk with one of the custodians.
    As Berman points out persons running even the most presumably elite educational programs often have virtually no comprehension of the value of a liberal education, that is “liberal” in the sense of the liberal arts. He also points out another problem with mainstreaming almost universally overlooked: what about the high proportion of inner-city youth from totally chaotic backgrounds walking around with untreated major depression?

  927. mika. February 19, 2012 at 9:54 am #

    Keiser Report: Fat Cats Spy On You (E251)
    http://goo.gl/7Du0Q
    Where the 1% live and who they are:
    Fucking Whitey!
    Fucking CIA!
    Fucking Vatican!

  928. charliefoxtrot February 19, 2012 at 9:56 am #

    damn, that s a good question! and by reinstitute, i m sure you mean re-legitimize; we all know that slavery still exists in many places, even if not called such…

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  929. charliefoxtrot February 19, 2012 at 10:14 am #

    another blast from the past; do you remember mother earth news? woulda been mid- to late ’70s…guy had converted a little pick-up, and may have been on the cover

  930. BeantownBill February 19, 2012 at 10:46 am #

    Thanks, LB, for your political posts. I rarely watch or listen to the MSM and actually look to you to give me a clear idea as to what is really going on. Just wanted to let you know that more people than you probably realize read your comments. Keep on posting!
    As for myself, I’ve always believed both parties are pretty much the same – otherwise wouldn’t a lot of our problems already have been resolved by one party or the other, or both? I really don’t want to waste my time with the whole process until I see a new, popular political movement arise that sees things clearly; I don’t see that happening now, although maybe they’ll be a re-energized OWS in the spring.

  931. rippedthunder February 19, 2012 at 10:47 am #

    I’m no Jew basher, actually I’m not religious at all. To each his own as far as I am concerned. This just seems wrong.
    http://thecaudallure.com/2012/02/11/cock-sucking-jews-literally/

  932. lbendet February 19, 2012 at 11:49 am #

    Thanks for that B.
    By reporting what I hear on MSM, I try to illustrate the lies and subterfuge that the polity is subjected to, making it indeed very hard to make an intelligent choice in a rigged market for ever aspect of the way we function.
    Do I think anything will change?
    Not the way things are going now. The total imbalance of the economy makes it impossible for democracy to operate.
    We got rid of the safety valves put in by Roosevelt building the greatest middle class and super-power economy fueling a space program that countered anything the Communists could do. We continued to look like the heroes who liberated Europe in WWII.
    Since then we became the disaster capitalists spreading our disease around the world.
    This model creates a system whereby managing money to go to the top who can never lose. Making all economies move money from their middle class to the top tier who want to control all the world’s resources, all the wealth, all the power, well, you just rendered democracy null and void.
    In our present state, Money=free speech. Money buys power and renders government its beholden handmaiden.

  933. charliefoxtrot February 19, 2012 at 11:55 am #

    great quote i ran across on the comment boards somewhere: the cure for 1984 is 1776…

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  934. xhalor February 19, 2012 at 12:00 pm #

    I wouldn’t worry too much about the bio-spell-checking…
    http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/forbes-among-30-clients-using-computer-generated-stories-instead-of-writers_b47243

  935. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 12:04 pm #

    Where the 1% live and who they are:
    Fucking Whitey!
    Fucking CIA!
    Fucking Vatican!
    -mika, unrestrained by anyone-
    ================================
    Apparently, Mika, at least 50% of the top 1% in the United States, is Jewish. That’s OK, though, because they are operating under the secret control of the Vatican, right?
    “Judaism has so many powerful people among us, as the Vanity Fair 100 list shows. We are such a part of this society, have such impact on this society and yet we’re always unhappy, always feel victimized, always kvetch about this and that. It’s always another Holocaust around the corner, there’s always the next Hitler on the scene, Israel is always embattled, we’re always worried, always scared, always sure the end is near.”
    -joseph aaron-
    http://www.rense.com/general78/jewishpower.htm
    And Lbend, ALL of us have a reptile brain.
    That is one thing I learned on CFN this week.

  936. Eleuthero February 19, 2012 at 12:15 pm #

    Vlad said:
    Correct: I would not defend a White murderer. That’s how we’re different. Blacks always try to get their murderers off either because they’re Black or because they’re just anti-White or Anti-System.
    ***************************************************************
    Yes, remember the “Black Power” salute one of the O.J. jurors gave to O.j.. In my opinion, what BeantownBill said about Metusaleh/Mika and what blacks do to defend the indefensible on an almost daily basis is FAR more “racist” than your stance which is generally data-driven.
    I fear, Vlad, that whites, at some point, will, indeed, have to start counter-attacking against this system with similar tactics if this kind of indiscriminate tribal backing continues among the “oppressed” [sic] minorities.
    Remember the hilarious sanctimoniousness that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton showed about the Duke Lacrosse team which was later COMPLETELY exonerated. Look at how Joe Paterno was killed in the media for months. Now, I actually believe Paterno SHOULD have been fired but if a black dude had been similarly negligent on another college team, that story wouldn’t have lasted two days in the public mindset.
    I’m sick to death of reverse racism being called “ethnic pride”.
    E.

  937. lbendet February 19, 2012 at 12:15 pm #

    It’s gotta suck to be an Israeli that’s all I can say. Obviously they are unhappy with the leadership and has an OWSer movement of their own.
    Half of Israel incl. its military don’t want a war with Iran. Most of us don’t, but the nut cases that run our country are pushing for this thing big time. All for the money, of course.
    War’s our biggest export.
    They whip out the paranoia thing, which by the way, Milton Friedman, economist of Disaster Capitalism did as well.
    It’s that emotional blackmail thing that ends the debate every time. Our religious right has learned how to do that as well.
    That said, I think only a small faction is a cabal with our neo-conserves.
    Don’t forget that our power elite are not all Jewish but boy do they love what the “Untouchables” do for them. That’s why Corzine continues along….

  938. Buck Stud February 19, 2012 at 12:17 pm #

    “Since then we became the disaster capitalists spreading our disease around the world.”
    Apologies if I am wrong, but weren’t you lionizing Steve Jobs right around the time of his death? I found this strange at the time, or perhaps just a celebrity blind spot in your revulsion of global capitalism. Because there is no question that the use of sweatshops to produce hi tech gadgetry was/is revolting.
    Of course, globalists cite production costs and affordability to justify outsourcing while they simultaneously seal off those very markets to the consumer looking for purchasing affordability. For instance, big American Pharma uses Indian pharmaceutical companies to lower production costs while simultaneously lobbying lawmakers for restricted consumer access to cheaper global alternatives. The mantra of “free-market capitalism” in the context of globalism is a one-way street for the corporations.

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  939. Eleuthero February 19, 2012 at 12:22 pm #

    And don’t forget, P2C, that Lloyd Blankfein, Jamie Dimon, Bernie Madoff, and Timothy Geithner are also tools of the Pope. When shit like this starts being taken seriously on an allegedly intellectual blog, you know the blog’s intellectual content has seriously deteriorated.
    E.

  940. Vlad Krandz February 19, 2012 at 12:27 pm #

    And remember Bill actively agreed with Mika when he said that the game is rigged – and a Jew can’t win. Jew can’t win? They’re doing great, but nothing but complete dominance will satisfy them.
    Now imagine this kind of paranoia and tribalism operating at the hightest levels of foreign policy – frightening, no?
    America has been very good to the Jews and they have flourished here as in nowhere since the Roman Empire. But has it made them grateful or peaceful? Not a bit of it – they basically told us that we were Nazis waiting to happen. And then they proceeded to change America forever by opening our borders to the 3rd World. The more diverse, they reasoned, the safer they were from Holocaust – and the more powerful they become.
    Ever notice how people often bring on the very thing they fear? By not trusting us, by not working with for mutual benefit, by not appreciating us – they have bred ill will. Does this make them think again? No, it just proves to them that they were right all along – and they double down and try to use their influence to create speech codes and hate laws – as they have done in Europe. And that’s where we stand – a very bad and precarious place. They would do well to back down but they along with the whole Elite feel they can win it all and seem willing to gamble with nuclear war to do so.

  941. Eleuthero February 19, 2012 at 12:33 pm #

    Thanks for the heads-up about the Berman book, Marc. I think the title is correct because we are, indeed, in our “twilight” days as a culture. I see the politically-correct slogans of the day as being nothing but Neo-Orwellian in nature.
    Look at the shitstorm poor Ward Connerly had to take when he implemented a “color blind” admission system at U. of Cal. and the results were biased even more towards Asians and whites. He’s gotten innumerable death threats. Ward Connerly is a black man.
    Unfortunately, though I detest Limbaugh, Hannity, and their ilk, I have no dispute with their relentless attack on the educational establishment. At the school where I worked, quotas were used long after their “official” repeal and a black, lesbian female got into our English Department where she claimed to be from another planet, passed dildos around in class and exhorted women to engage in “mistress-bation”, and espoused lesbianism as a “weapon” in the war on men. It took ten fucking years to unseat this schizoid who got paid a HUGE settlement to leave.
    The educational establishments have gotten corrupted in our most prestigious schools like Harvard and Yale where the civics knowledge of their graduates is at an alltime low. Indeed, it’s one reason why cocky Ivy League biz school grads are regarded as some of the most gangster-ish American biz thugs in history.
    E.

  942. lbendet February 19, 2012 at 12:36 pm #

    Hey, Buck
    Good point, I didn’t know anything about Apple using Foxcom at the time.
    I do love the mac and what it has done for my career, but I now feel glad that I don’t own their stock.
    Today there was an announcement that Foxcom will be raising wages for their slaves. Guess that’s social pressure at work.
    Disaster Capitalism is not just about slave labor, though. That’s a part of the mechanics, but it’s all about creating giant debt and then moving into austerity and privatizing, doing to sovereign states what Bain Capital does to failing businesses. Slicing, dicing and selling the public domain for pennies on the dollar to private interests.
    Much that gets done, is a result of natural and shock and awe.
    Please get the book, the Shock Doctrine and you’ll get the picture.
    ________________________
    Agreed E. As if the Pope was the only power in the world.

  943. Vlad Krandz February 19, 2012 at 12:37 pm #

    Yes they hide behind the Jewish people. But equally, why do the Jewish People allow them to do so? Professor MacDonald of Berkeley (the greatest living “Anti-Semite”) says that they benefit from the great riches and power of the Jewish Elite. Remember, they are much more charitable to their own people they our Elite are to us. The Rothschilds did help fund the creation of Isreal. And even Jewish gangsters like Meyer Lansky contributed regularly.
    Gentile Whites are supreme at the practice of inter-ethnic charity. Jews at the practice of intra-ethnic charity. Now which one of these is a winning strategy long term?

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  944. Eleuthero February 19, 2012 at 12:37 pm #

    I detest religion, too, Charlie but Bill’s defense of Mika is not a defense I would EVER in my life make on behalf of a non-Jewish white on this site. And who’s doing the “jew-bashing” for Christ’s sake …. ONE poster … Vlad. No one else does it on a routine basis but I assure you that I’ll form a “chorus” with Vlad if this kind of shit continues.
    E.

  945. anti soak February 19, 2012 at 12:41 pm #

    Off topic BUT what do folks think of the WH send
    off?
    Flag at half Mast!
    Radio hosts John and Ken [LA a.m.] may be fired for telling nit bluntly [she was a crack head].
    BUT ONLY I SHALL TELL THE TRUTH…
    DID SHE PUT 100,000,000 $ INTO THE HANDS OF NARCO TERRORISTS?
    Far as sharpton and Duke go….thats als coin..
    Race baiting. Tawana made him what he is.
    thats 100% factual.

  946. anti soak February 19, 2012 at 12:44 pm #

    Yes some of us know…..some get away with things others cant.
    THERE WAS A HUGE SCANDAL OF KOSHER PEDOPHILIA
    THE DREADED NY TIMES DIDNT SEE FIT TO PRINT…
    SEE CRIMES OF THE TIMES BLOG FOR MORE INFO
    or was it Occidental Observer?

  947. Vlad Krandz February 19, 2012 at 12:44 pm #

    And I only “bash” them because they bash us. I didn’t grow up this way – I used to be a liberal and had Jewish friends.
    Remember Cho, the Korean college kid who went postal? He took Nikki Giovanni’s poetry class. If you don’t know, she a Black poetess who pens lines like “can you piss on a blonde head”. Not that she caused him to go off all by herself – but she sure didn’t help him or anyone else. One more vile influence.

  948. mika. February 19, 2012 at 12:49 pm #

    Apparently, Mika, at least 50% of the top 1% in the United States, is Jewish.
    ==
    Yes, I was on my way to visit the huge Jewish community in Virginia, Maryland, Los Alamos New Mexico, etc.

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  949. lbendet February 19, 2012 at 12:50 pm #

    But equally, why do the Jewish People allow them to do so?
    Guess it’s a win-win sitch. The banksters (or as Clelente calls them, “The White Shoe Boys”are unleashing their Vampire Squid around the world with impunity.
    BTW, I have referred to this system as Murder Incorporated in a post back in 2010.

  950. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 12:55 pm #

    “What a tragedy! You folks dicker about bullshit, yet life hangs in the balance everytime you leave your house.”
    -rt-
    Thanks for the reminder, RT. I don’t think there’s anything worse for cops and EMT’s than tragedies like that wreck you posted – when a young life is cut short like that.
    Young lives are the future – that’s why we take the loss of a young life so hard. There are one or two (OK, maybe 5 or 6?) useless bullshitters on CFN. Most of the rest of us wouldn’t be on here “dickering” if we weren’t trying to figure out a better future, in our own ways – for family, tribe, Country, or planet.
    It’s just too bad that it all gets so crossed up so easily – and is so hard to uncross.
    ========================
    And that is probably as close as I am going to come to an apology – for anything I may have typed on CFN this week.

  951. charliefoxtrot February 19, 2012 at 12:58 pm #

    E- seems to me you re right about intellectual content- and that further, it s a reflection of society at large…i know it isn t the first time the concept has been brought up, and perhaps is the very reason JHK doesn t seem to moderate…i believe the answer is the same for both venues: rise above the crap, and provoke actual discussion rather than foment argument and vitriol- that said, i fully realize i have not always followed that prescription myself, though i am trying to get better at not venting anger at anonymous bits on a screen…my sincere apologies to asoka, vlad, and any others i may have offended to this point; i m really not an ass just for the sake of it…and i have learned quite a bit from visiting this blog, and from links i would not have likely seen anywhere else, so keep em coming…

  952. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 1:05 pm #

    “Yes, I was on my way to visit the huge Jewish community in Virginia, Maryland,…”
    -mika-
    OK, cool, maybe I can drive up there and meet you!
    ======================
    Oh, wait – were you going for sarcasm????
    Because that only works if there is no basis in fact for the intended sarcasm.

  953. Vlad Krandz February 19, 2012 at 1:06 pm #

    Just read Lewis’s short piece about women priests. Superb as usual. If Religion is just to be rational, why bother? Instead of getting women priests we should then be getting rid of all priests. If we must have them, they should be called Priestesses and have long flowin hair. Instead they are short cut little butches like Jefferts Shortz – second rate men sans penis.
    Did you ever get to meet “Bishop” Gene (Vicky) Robinson? Between him and Schortz, they have destoyed Episcopalianism. The faithful decamp one by one and church by church for the safer rock of Orthodoxy or the leaky liner of Catholicism.

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  954. bubbleheadMarc February 19, 2012 at 1:06 pm #

    Much of this is the consumerist mentality of the customer always being “right” as for instance at Brown Univ. in Providence, RI, another Ivy League campus, there are no grades supposedly since they cater to the jet set and don’t want to alienate anyone. It seems that only the top engineering schools and perhaps service academies are immune to this nonsense.
    I don’t care if some people wish to maintain enclaves of stupidity which are immune to reality. Just don’t ask me to help pay for it. On the secondary level, for instance, if the severely emotionally disturbed and also the profoundly retarded can be shunted off to county schools then so too should be the chronically listless and indifferent who although not retarded insist upon never learning anything past the intermediate elementary level.
    Because of decades of grade inflation I no longer lend much credence to university degrees either. I’ve met too many stupid teachers and lawyers to buy into their diploma mill degrees. If education is to be saved at all it must be reserved for the intellectual elite. Give the dull normal people training instead. At least then they may know how to do something of use. We need impartial form examinations graded by strangers who are not emotionally involved with the largely negative outcomes. Those who cannot produce need to be transferred to tutoring centers for early GED preparation away from those who are capable of learning academics. They could be supervised by tutors other than school teachers of the sort who clearly cannot impart much of anything to dullards.

  955. mika. February 19, 2012 at 1:07 pm #

    List of highest-income counties in the United States – Wikipedia
    http://goo.gl/X4zK8

  956. mika. February 19, 2012 at 1:13 pm #

    Oh, wait – were you going for sarcasm????
    Because that only works if there is no basis in fact for the intended sarcasm.
    ==
    Well then, let’s look it up. We have the list, let’s look at the population demographics, shall we?

  957. charliefoxtrot February 19, 2012 at 1:22 pm #

    now that is an astute observation about bain…i ve read a little about greece’s situation over at ICH, but hadn t made the connection…and i further think you re right about slavery only being a cog in the machine rather than the main driver of off-shoring…i ve come to believe that the only real chance we have as humans is if all of the women of earth can coalesce around a common issue- perhaps the readymade contraception debacle- and push to expand women and childrens’ rights issues to the front…shut up vlad; we ve had our chance for most of 25,000 years, and obviously blown it…if they can prevent WWIII from culminating in our demise, i d say we take our lumps of revenge and try to win back their love and respect- maybe if we give them real love and respect for the first time in history; we ll earn it…

  958. mika. February 19, 2012 at 1:27 pm #

    Let’s start with top of the list:
    1/ The City of Falls Church is an independent city in Virginia, United States, in the Washington Metropolitan Area.
    City of Falls Church, Virginia, religious demographics:
    http://www.city-data.com/county/religion/Falls-Church-city-VA.html
    Strangely enough no mention of Jews. But almost 1/2 of the population is Catholic!? Now, I’m no expert on US demographics, but I’m pretty sure that Catholics don’t make up 1/2 of the general population in the US.
    Shall we continue? Yes, we shall.

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  959. mika. February 19, 2012 at 1:36 pm #

    Next on the list is:
    2/ Loudoun County, Virginia, religious demographics:
    http://www.city-data.com/county/religion/Loudoun-County-VA.html
    Again, strangely enough no mention of Jews. But again, almost 1/2 of the population is Catholic!? Now, I’m no expert on US demographics, but I’m pretty sure that Catholics don’t make up 1/2 of the general population in the US. So what’s going on here? Can anyone spot a trend?
    Shall we continue?

  960. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 1:37 pm #

    Mika –
    Are you trying to prove your point or my point, with that Wiki list.
    And quite honestly, I don’t know much about Jewish demographics in the United States – although I’ve been giving myself quite an education this weekend.
    I suspect that demographic data is skewed by self-reporting bias. For example, Jews who are atheists – may very well be presented as “no religious affiliation,” on a demographic data base in the US.
    But, we have certainly seen some convincing proof on CFN this week – that Jewish Ethnic Affiliation trumps Loyalty to Atheism.
    ===========================
    regarding the “huge Jewish community in Virginia,” which you reference, Mika/Met
    Small attempt at humor follows –
    Don’t come to Virginia/Maryland expecting to find a “Jewish community,” like in Fiddler on the Roof
    (end of humor – I said it was a SMALL attempt)
    – American Jews are quite well integrated into the upscale communities in which they live in the US. I lived in such a community in the ’60’s in Macon, Georgia. The Rabbi of the biggest Synagogue in the city lived two doors down from my folks.
    Nice guy, great family, cute daughter – And all through the Hell that was alleged to be the ’60’s in the South – nobody ever gave him a second’s trouble of which I am aware.
    Integration is “SUPPOSED” to be the American Way.
    At least I thought it was until a couple of days ago. Apparently I’ve been wrong for 40-something years.

  961. mika. February 19, 2012 at 1:51 pm #

    American Jews are quite well integrated into the upscale communities in which they live in the US.
    ==
    Hate to break it to you, but Brooklyn, NY, is not an upscale community. And racist discrimination wont allow Jews to leave their designated ghettos in Brooklyn, etc. And don’t pretend that isn’t so, because I know better.

  962. Buck Stud February 19, 2012 at 2:06 pm #

    “And then they proceeded to change America forever by opening our borders to the 3rd World. The more diverse, they reasoned, the safer they were from Holocaust – and the more powerful they become. ”
    So tell us, Vlad, how “they” – The Jews – were specifically responsible for ” opening our borders to the 3rd World “. After all, I never saw Ted Kennedy sporting a yarmulke.
    You assert something, therefore it’s true…classic Nazi propaganda.

  963. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 2:13 pm #

    Night and day
    preceded you and me.
    The vault of the sky
    revolved upon some work.
    Be careful to tread lightly
    on the earth–
    you’re walking on people
    who used to be someone’s
    lover.

    Omar Khayyam (33)
    Translated by Juan Cole

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  964. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 2:14 pm #

    “And racist discrimination wont allow Jews to leave their designated ghettos in Brooklyn, etc”
    -mika/met-
    Mika you are 100% fucking nuts.
    That quoted statement shows you have no conception of what life in the United States is like!
    And why I, Southern Baptist born and bred – am willing to speak up against you on CFN, on behalf of the rational, non-fucking-nutty American Jewish Community – is a COMPLETE mystery!
    Are there no rational American Jews on this discussion board who will try to talk some sense into this fruit loop?

  965. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 2:16 pm #

    Outside Iran and Persian speaking countries, Khayyám has had an impact on literature and societies through the translation of his works and popularization by other scholars. The greatest such impact was in English-speaking countries; the English scholar Thomas Hyde (1636–1703) was the first non-Persian to study him. The most influential of all was Edward FitzGerald (1809–83), who made Khayyám the most famous poet of the East in the West through his celebrated translation and adaptations of Khayyám’s rather small number of quatrains (rubaiyaas) in Rubáiyát of Omar Khayyám.

  966. charliefoxtrot February 19, 2012 at 2:17 pm #

    …repetition works, david it really works

  967. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 2:27 pm #

    CF, You too, Buck –
    The man behind the Sierra Club selling out to the “open border/high immigration” lobby is Jewish.
    I don’t know if he had ill intent for the US.
    I don’t know if he’s part of a larger conspiracy.
    But he’s definitely Jewish – and he’s definitely greatly responsible.
    http://www.susps.org/

  968. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 2:42 pm #

    Apparently, Mika, at least 50% of the top 1% in the United States, is Jewish.
    Mika has pretty much destroyed this assertion and Mika cited his sources! Good work, Mika!
    But, again, the sinister anti-semitic content of P2C’s post was not challenged.
    So what if 50% of the top 1% was Jewish? Is that automatically somehow bad?
    Jews are wonderful people. There good qualities are many. They are intelligent, humane, and have a good sense of humor.
    If only P2C’s claim were true! I would love to have Jews in control. They are a great people. We could do much worse than to have Jews at the top.

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  969. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 2:43 pm #

    CORRECTION and emphasis
    Jews are wonderful people. Their good qualities are many. They are intelligent, humane, and have a good sense of humor.

  970. mika. February 19, 2012 at 2:50 pm #

    And why I, Southern Baptist born and bred – am willing to speak up against you on CFN, on behalf of the rational, non-fucking-nutty American Jewish Community – is a COMPLETE mystery!
    ==
    In what world of imagination was that? In the world of imagination where you constantly parrot Vlad? Which reminds me, YOU said that 40% of US Billionaires are Jews. Without asking Vlad to again back you up on your parroting of his nazi propaganda (which he didn’t, because he couldn’t), I want YOU to provide that list of names from which YOU derived this 40% number.

  971. charliefoxtrot February 19, 2012 at 3:15 pm #

    finally, a hockey game breaks out! sj 2 det 3…
    @ prog- man, that sucks! i m sure that muir and udall are both spinning in their graves…wait til yellowstone gets sold off to the mining conglomerates!

  972. myrtlemay February 19, 2012 at 3:15 pm #

    “War’s our biggest export.” lbendt
    Yes, and we haven’t had a successful one since 1945. Still, we keep hammering away at countries who have the stuff we’re addicted to, oil. Read today that the price of gas will probably go up to $4.00 plus a gallon this Spring. So here’s my question to all you wage earners out there. How does an average Joe, assuming he even HAS a job paying the minimum wage of $7.25/hr., justify getting out of bed, driving to work, and laboring for 7-8 hours a day when his auto consume 1/2 of his take home pay? This on top of rent, food, utilities, etc.
    The government appears intent on propping up what’s left of the 99% with SNAP, unemployment benefits, and welfare while planning WWIII. The question left becomes: what happens to the trillions of debt we owe and the amount of tribute we will continue to pay to our bosses in Israel?
    A school teacher I know tells me that there are kids’ families who are thousands of dollars in arrears in their school lunch accounts. And the school, by law, has to provide lunch to these students. Where does the money ultimately come from? Why, from you and me, of course. Uncle Sam squeezes the money out of every tax payer to pay for school lunches that I personally wouldn’t feed to a dog. By this teacher’s account about 1/3 of these lunches routinely go un-eaten, btw. So apparently we’re not talking about starvation issues here.

  973. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 3:23 pm #

    OK, BeanTownBill –
    Here’s what I’ve been greatly fearing about asoka.
    He has stuck in nose into a conversation that he is not a party to.
    Will CFN let him derail the conversation.
    If past history is any guide, yes it will.
    ======================
    Mika’s a nut. He has a vision of Jews in a Bronx ghetto – unable to move due to racial discrimination.
    Somebody needs to tell him he’s a nut.
    I’m losing faith, here.
    —————-
    I’ve got one more response to go, then I’m out for ’till late tonight, at the earliest.
    Asoka –
    For living humans on Earth, there is a limit to how many people we can love.

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  974. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 3:25 pm #

    YOU said that 40% of US Billionaires are Jews.
    -mika/met
    I didn’t say that.
    I don’t know who did, you Horse’s Ass. (tm, Q)

  975. mika. February 19, 2012 at 3:35 pm #

    Mika’s a nut. He has a vision of Jews in a Bronx ghetto – unable to move due to racial discrimination.
    ==
    Racial discrimination, as in if they know that you’re Jewish you don’t get hired. And when you do get hired, it’s as part of a villainous scheme to showcase a high profile fall-guy and a scapegoat for a criminal racket that has its origins in the CIA and the Vatican. All the while a population of hundred of thousands and millions of gov mafia parasites enjoy their anonymity and graft.

  976. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 3:36 pm #

    “I fear, Vlad, that whites, at some point, will, indeed, have to start counter-attacking against this system with similar tactics if this kind of indiscriminate tribal backing continues among the “oppressed” [sic] minorities.”
    -eleuthero, to vlad-
    E, you are correct. I told Vlad once that I thought that day would come in the future.
    Apparently it is here now.
    The only thing I will add, once again,is that the tactics of an organization such as this will have to be as completely above board and non-threatening, similar to the tactics of the NAACP or the ADL.
    American Renaisance could be an OK place to start, but their comment boards are a mess – full of racist language, etc.
    Mika has shown us what happens when you talk like a racist nut in public –
    Umm – you look like a racist nut.
    =======================
    Out of time, posting anyway.
    That could be it for me until next week, although I will check the thread late tonight.

  977. Qshtik February 19, 2012 at 3:37 pm #

    So was “whom is” correct or incorrect in the sentence written by Michigan? It sounds wrong to my ear but the larger point is that it is unnecessary in the sentence.
    I regret that your who/whom explanation didn’t help me.

  978. anti soak February 19, 2012 at 3:40 pm #

    here my dear:
    Mesirah and Child Sexual Abuse in Brooklyn | The Occidental …
    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/…/mesira-and-child-sexual-abuse-in-...
    Dec 29, 2011 – I confess that in reading about all this sexual abuse among Orthodox Jews I can’t help thinking about the videos in Trudie Pert’s recent article ………………………………….

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  979. anti soak February 19, 2012 at 3:42 pm #

    and f u too!
    Mesirah and Child Sexual Abuse in Brooklyn | The Occidental …
    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/…/mesira-and-child-sexual-abuse-in-...
    Dec 29, 2011 – I confess that in reading about all this sexual abuse among Orthodox Jews I can’t help thinking about the videos in Trudie Pert’s recent article ..

  980. mika. February 19, 2012 at 3:49 pm #

    I didn’t say that.
    ==
    No, you said, and I quote: “Apparently, Mika, at least 50% of the top 1% in the United States, is Jewish.” So, you took Vlad’s original 40% and made it ‘at least 50%’. So fuck you, oh great defender of American Jews.
    Now where is that list of names to back up your claim that 50% of the top 1% the US is Jewish. Cough it up, you piece of shit!

  981. Bustin J February 19, 2012 at 3:50 pm #

    PoC said “For living humans on Earth, there is a limit to how many people we can love.”
    Why even bother? Asoka is a troll.
    Myrtle said “Uncle Sam squeezes the money out of every tax payer to pay for school lunches that I personally wouldn’t feed to a dog. By this teacher’s account about 1/3 of these lunches routinely go un-eaten, btw. So apparently we’re not talking about starvation issues here. ”
    Yep. Instead of these convoluted programs that don’t work, why don’t we just give cash to people, and let them make the decisions?
    Instead they fuel school meal programs, which is a de facto subsidy for the corporate food-trough mega coprs like Aramark, Sysco, and… well thats about it. There is no ‘competition’ in this sector. It is a locked in, government funded monopoly, that serves children ‘mystery meat’, soggy reconstituted vegetables, and High fructose Corn Syrup. Of course they don’t eat it.
    And they ARE starving: starving for real food, real nutrients. People talk about kids being stupid, well, its because they are starved for nutrients. 1/2 of them will be Obese by the time they graduate high school. It isn’t the kids fault: its OUR FAULT. We are NOT the ones we’ve been waiting for. We are weak, stupid, coddled idiots without courage or wisdom. We should be painting our faces half-blue and storming the legislatures.
    We are a weak people. All we do is complain about how government wastes our money. We are 2 or 3 generations removed from a time where people banded together for remonstration, demanding concessions and benefits from the government. We enjoy a few of these remnants but have lost the working memory of when and how to demand it.
    Almost everyone I talk to is obsessed with their own little world, keeping some illusory concept of ‘self esteem’ alive, believing that the answer to everything is to ‘be an optimist’, to ‘look on the bright side’, and etc.
    They lack, ironically, the education necessary to understand things like politics, sociology, psychology and economics. They should have learned them in school, but they had their brains sucked out early in life.
    If Boomers end up losing the “benefits” 2/3rds of their cohort will be depending on for some semblance of quality of life in their ‘Golden Years’ it will be because their own stupidity. The younger generations might be spending all their time and energy fighting for other, more basic rights, like soup kitchens and mass transit.

  982. Bustin J February 19, 2012 at 4:00 pm #

    Take a look at this Tedx talk:
    http://www.wimp.com/mindingmitochondria/
    At first glance, its message is familiar to anyone who didn’t sleepwalk through the last decade’s emergence of the slow-food movement or explosion of awareness of the real determinants of health’s origins in the stuff we eat.
    What impresses me is the fact that she had full-blown multiple sclerosis. I watched this disease destroy people. That she was able to reverse her decline is astonishing.
    Combining the nutritional concepts of her scientifically valid analysis to the contents of school lunches, as served to vulnerable brains in critical stages of development, and what you have a world-class car wreck, with plenty of innocent victims.

  983. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 4:02 pm #

    Mika –
    There is something wrong with you.
    You can’t tell the difference in 40% and 50%.
    You don’t know the difference in “billionaires” and “members of the top 1%.”
    You’ve got every single idea in your mind all churned up to fit a bizarre notion that the Vatican is pulling Jewish strings all over the US, making them patsies for actions over which they have no control. strange.
    ========================
    Let me give you and CFN one more to chew on, then I really am through ’till much later.
    “It may be no historic accident that the leader of the most powerful nation in the world, Barack Obama, recently approved a second term for Ben Bernanke as Federal Reserve chairman, and chose Jews to be his closest advisers: Rahm Emanuel, the tough White House chief of staff, David Axelrod, his savvy political adviser and Dan Shapiro, the top Middle East expert on the National Security Council.
    He also happens to be friendly with several Jewish leaders, including Alan Solow and Lee Rosenberg, who are both on our list.
    Second on the list is Bernanke, the man who holds the purse strings of the richest nation on the planet and…..”
    -source?-
    Source? Sounds like a shadowy and virulently anti Semitic organization, doesn’t it?
    Well, it’s not. Far from it, in fact!
    And it’s not the Vatican either, mika/met.
    I’ll let anyone who is interested find it and post a link to it. Good information, heh?

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  984. myrtlemay February 19, 2012 at 4:05 pm #

    Btw, the Automatic Earth has an interesting article entitled, “The Sinking of the Titanic” or some such. Fits in well with the “Smoke and Mirrors” show theme that I was discussing earlier. Good comments added by bloggers, too, on this article on TAE.

  985. Bustin J February 19, 2012 at 4:08 pm #

    Looks like Santorum is going to overtake Romney.
    Which makes sense. America likes taking the obvious rich overdog and giving him a humiliating public dunking.
    Which means we’ll be left with the deliciousness of Santorum vs. Obama.
    It will be delicious because Obama will destroy him in the campaign, taking religion out with him. Rick Santorum pretty much embodies the latent fascism of the religious. “As above, so below” Rick will intone, thinking God is on his side, only to rub 66+% of the electorate the wrong way, doing great damage to religion in general as a side effect.
    His kid’s a retard and the rest of his ideas are of similar quality. A knuckle-dragging Vatican stooge is not going to get the presidency.
    Outside shot: A Romney/Paul ticket. But it will still be crushed by Obama.
    Gingrich is the only hope of the Repubs but he is too much for a party whose ranks are filled with no one but losers and turd-balls no one likes. And Gingrich would have to shoot 100% from the field to take out Obama, maybe aided by a few Obama gaffes.
    Jill Stein’s only hope is an injection of LSD in the water supply.

  986. myrtlemay February 19, 2012 at 4:09 pm #

    More ramblings… I went to school with lots of the 1%ers. They were the most selfish, cruel, vicious bitches with whom I’ve ever had the misfortune to come into contact. I hung out with the Bohemian Lesbos and other scholarship kids.

  987. mika. February 19, 2012 at 4:10 pm #

    You made an assertion that 50% of the 1% are Jews. Now back it up, you piece of shit.

  988. myrtlemay February 19, 2012 at 4:23 pm #

    Good points! During the Depression it was always, “Walk on the sunny side of the street!” And “Let a Smile be your Umbrella”, and “Pennies From Heaven”. People then could only be bullshitted for so long. By the time FDR came in, folks were really pissed. It was a brutal time, seeing grown, able-bodied men thin and standing in tatters, waiting for their turn at the soup kitchen. I saw it. It wasn’t pretty. Then, as now, it is just such a waste…of human potential, of sustainability, and spirit.
    Foks are now so far removed from where their food comes from, the concept of a family farm is completely foreign to them. We have divorced ourselves completely from the Earth. Of course, this glazed over media circus we have is another matter entirely. Ever wonder how much time CBS’s anchor spends under the hair dryer or how much mouse he uses to give that “volume” look? Walter Conkrite and Edward R. Murrow would be spinning in their graves.

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  989. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 4:44 pm #

    P2C is trying to provoke me. P2C is a troll.

  990. Qshtik February 19, 2012 at 4:47 pm #

    she a Black poetess
    ============
    Vlad, I notice that when you start talking about Blacks you will often slip right into Ebonics (see excerpt above). Wus up wit dat?
    ;o)

  991. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 4:48 pm #

    Good information, heh?
    —————-
    Again with the sinister antisemitism.
    Someone could equally name Christians named by Obama in administrative and advisory positions. It is not “good information.” It is base fear mongering to promote hatred of Jews. You are a troll, P2C, trying to create division and conflict.

  992. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 5:06 pm #

    P2C, Obama appointed those human beings as candidates to high positions, human beings from all walks of life, for their ability to fashion the face of the future.
    That they happen to be Jewish is not relevant, except for the fact that they are qualified. We sort of have a meritocracy here. People with cred are made leaders. People with no relevant education, no relevant experience, tend not to be appointed to leadership positions.
    But you post a quote from the Jerusalem Post, out of context, to promote antisemitism. You are a troll.

  993. ozone February 19, 2012 at 5:21 pm #

    E.,
    Is it really a “deterioration”, or is it just certain parties bellowing more often and more stridently? That’s what I’m seeing, and perhaps that’s why P2C thinks it’s been a “bad week on da blog”. Well sure, lookit the slatherings!

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  994. mika. February 19, 2012 at 5:24 pm #

    Jeff Rense is a classic CIA cipher, controlled opposition psy-ops. Very interesting is that PC would link to a Jeff Rense site for his tripe. Very interesting, indeed.

  995. Michigan Native February 19, 2012 at 5:28 pm #

    The next circus show will be Romney or Santorum vs Obama. Who cares? They are but different figure heads for the same mafia. I am predicting that Romney or Santorum will chose Newt Gingrich as their running mate to get all the crackers in the south, who exhibit nose mining habits and drooling problems from generations of inbreeding, to vote red once again. Obama will win the debates, but if the establishment wants whoever will gut social programs and waste more on military spending, then the will of the majority is irrelevant, as we have seen.
    On the other hand, I fail to see any significant difference between Obama and that son of a Bush before him. He sold us down the drain with his healthcare reform, refusing to put a lid on these blood sucking malpractice lawyers. Foreign policy wise, the “change we can believe in” president balked at his promise to get us out of Iraq, stated his desire after he got elected to “redeploy” the troops in Afghanistan, the unmanned predator drone strikes continue with a vengeance, as well as all this shit our government is stirring up in Libya, Syria, etc. While people were celebrating (or conversely, loathing the new year), Obama signed this “national defense authorization act” which gives the US military to power to indefinetly detain, without due process, access to legal recourse or a trial, anyone whom the US views as a “threat” to “national security”. This is happening in the good old USA, not nazi Germany or some swamp of horror in Latin America.
    It would seem as if the government knows a collapse is imminent and is preparing to impose martial law in an effort to save itself. Whoever gets selected in 2012 will preside over an empire that collapses on their watch. Voting is a complete waste of time at this point

  996. ozone February 19, 2012 at 5:36 pm #

    “The mantra of “free-market capitalism” in the context of globalism is a one-way street for the corporations.” -Buck da Knife
    Abso-light-ly Rute!
    A small anecdote from the independent appliance guy (who still comes to your house and actually fixes shit.)
    He say:
    Remember the old-time plastic cam timers that used to run your washer, dishwasher, (etc.), afore computer modules? Ah, well, the old-fashioned, last-ya-20-years stuff might cost 20-30 bucks at the “out door” of the factory, thereby costing the “consumer” mebbe fiddy? (Can’t push that up too much, or, no sale.)
    NOW, friends and neighbors, you getchas a computer module from China. 10 bucks to produce, 2-5 hun’ert to the customer.
    They would NOT be using this technology if it wasn’t making them huge gobs of money. It’s strictly bottom line. Buy up a brand-name known for reliability, cheap it out and ride it til the rubes catch on that it’s turned to shit… and on to the next pump and dump! Ain’t we got fun?

  997. Qshtik February 19, 2012 at 5:43 pm #

    And Gingrich would have to shoot 100% from the field to take out Obama,
    ==============
    Nice basketball reference. When you say “from the field” I assume you mean “from downtown” as in beyond the 3-point line…..
    …speaking of which, did you notice that “Linsanity” continues? 28 pts, 14 assists and the Knicks won.
    But to your point(s)… Santorum was interviewed on one of the AM political shows today and, I felt, did a good job of explaining why the Federal Govt and probably the State too, should NOT be involved in public education. This is something I have long believed. And what happens when they ARE involved? You get these stupid, wasteful and ineffective lunch programs (as just one example) by which, as you say, we are starving our kids.
    He also explained his opposition to “prenatal testing” being funded by the Fed. He was particularly against amniocentesis (sp?) saying that most times this procedure is done it results in an abortion of a “disabled” child (I would want to see the stats on that). Of course, being a religious nut, he’s against this. I am for it… I favor nipping a huge problem in the bud in the same manner I believe in “pulling the plug on Granny” when it comes to using absurd extraordinary means to maintain life in a vegetative state. We have close friends who had twins 16 years ago – a boy and a girl. The girl is normal, in fact even better than normal but the boy is severely autistic. I wouldn’t wish this fate on anyone’s family. I AM against manditory govt funding of these procedures. I say remove govt from everything they can reasonably be removed from. That would include education and the funding of medical procedures.

  998. ozone February 19, 2012 at 5:50 pm #

    Pretty good idear, Charlie.
    Just have the wimmenz refuse to have bouncing bairns, and GAME OVER BOYZ! (Sure, go to the test tubes, but how ya gonna get the eggs? This could be politically tricky, dickies.)
    ;o)

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  999. charliefoxtrot February 19, 2012 at 5:52 pm #

    you were correct, and i happen to agree with your analysis, that it would have been better to leave it out entirely…i ll try again: ‘who’ is used as a pronoun, when performing an action- “who is comming to dinner?”… ‘whom’ is used when it is the object, as in “for whom the bell tolls”…hope this helpps

  1000. Qshtik February 19, 2012 at 5:53 pm #

    Buy up a brand-name known for reliability, cheap it out and ride it til the rubes catch on that it’s turned to shit… and on to the next pump and dump!
    =========
    Such a cynic…. but well stated.

  1001. Buck Stud February 19, 2012 at 5:59 pm #

    “The man behind the Sierra Club selling out to the “open border/high immigration” lobby is Jewish.
    I don’t know if he had ill intent for the US.
    I don’t know if he’s part of a larger conspiracy.
    But he’s definitely Jewish – and he’s definitely greatly responsible.”
    Prog,
    First of all, one man is not “greatly responsible” for open borders. Now George Bush, Ronald Reagan, or Ted Kennedy – that’s a different story. Oh, and a large part of the greed driven US economy in search of cheap labor…and a large swath of both political parties. And of course, the Mexicans’ themselves who uproot and perform dirty work in order to improve their lot in life.
    According to Vlad’s twisted logic, one might conclude that all Jews are in a conspiracy to save the environment because the particular Jewish man referenced in your link is an environmental philanthropist.
    And yet, you do denounce Vlad for making such outlandish assertions. Instead, you tiptoe around the edges, pretending to consider his blatantly racist bullshit.
    Whatever.

  1002. Buck Stud February 19, 2012 at 6:01 pm #

    *do NOT denounce*

  1003. ozone February 19, 2012 at 6:01 pm #

    “Organization”
    There’s yer trouble, right there.
    ANY “organization” is ripe for co-option. Broadening the thinking outside the propaganda options is becoming a necessity. The status quo fears informed, individual actions more than any other.

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  1004. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 6:03 pm #

    You think voting is a waste of time? If a Santorum or Gingrich is voted in, you will see that voting does matter.
    I have a different crystal ball and here is what is says:
    There will be no military coup. The military loves Obama because he has shown them guts in operations to take out terrorists (and pirates) and they now respect him. Obama has also increased support for veterans over the neglect Bush showed. Bush sent troops into war without protection and neglected support for veterans’ hospitals.
    There will be not imposition of martial law. At least not with the military. We have already had the militarization of the police nationwide, and they have new toys they want to try out, but it will be on a case by case basis, not martial law.
    The empire will not collapse during Obama’s next four years. People, like Cheney, said Obama had no experience and the USA would be attacked in the first year of his administration. They were wrong. Now Obama has four years of executive experience as President of the United States, experience which no Republican challenger has.
    All the predictions on CFN of imminent collapse, predictions made on Clusterfuck Nation in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 and now in 2012 have been wrong. There will be no structural collapse of the economy in 2012 or 2013 or 2014 etc. which results in no banks, no money, no food, no fuel, etc. … all the doomster fantasies and predictions will continue to fail.
    I have never seen such a gullible group of non-reality-based folks as those on CFN, who think they are in the know, kind of like a cargo cult mentality. An 8% unemployment rate is a 92% employment rate, but you’ll never see that here. At least in the seven years I’ve been here.
    If there is no major structural collapse in the next five years, I am leaving CFN. I am not going to waste another 12 years reading references to Orlov and fears about “imminent” collapse.
    With the exception of Tripp, most people here prefer to entertain themselves with name-calling and arguments about race, ways to put down or discriminate against one group or another, instead of sharing the means of skillfully negotiating energy-descent (in natural housing, in permaculture, etc.) so as to make a soft landing and survive.
    We need, in the 21st century, intelligence in order to survive. But a rational mind alone will not suffice. Narrow identifications in our minds are dividing us and create conflict.
    We need an intelligence suffused with love. Universal love.

  1005. ozone February 19, 2012 at 6:04 pm #

    …This is why the organs of TPTB are setting up individuals for prosecution and persecution as never before; they’re desperately hoping to deflect the very thoughts of independent actions.

  1006. charliefoxtrot February 19, 2012 at 6:05 pm #

    know what else is unnecessary? the promulgation of insulting, inaccurate, and ultimately racist stereotypes- so fuck off, and then go fuck yourself with that teeny little yankee pecker, you goddamned troll…

  1007. ozone February 19, 2012 at 6:06 pm #

    Hamptons-dwellers, beware!
    (I’m sure that would be most of those reading this blog. Haw!)

  1008. Michigan Native February 19, 2012 at 6:23 pm #

    Dmitry has a sarcastic sense of humor and JHK has his own special way with words, so both of what they say stick to me like paste. There you have a man that is obviously a genius. He prefers to live on an insulated boat with a wood burning stove rather than be surrounded by others on land when the shit hits the fan. That ought to give you an idea of how bad it will get in the US.
    If he states that the cut off from fossil fuels, oil in particular, will be sudden, so sudden that the troops get stranded at all these senseless overseas military bases and no way to repatriate or evacuate them, then we would be wise to take heed. Those smooth decline curves are another form of wishful thinking.
    We live in a violent country, armed to the teeth, with an insane crime rate. Try to imagine what will happen when the lights go out, the retirement system fails, the austerity programs are cut. We have lived under an ideology “you can’t pay, so you go without”. As long as people were in the “have” position, this was OK. Greed was good. Now that the majority of people will be in the category of being “have nots”, they might not think such a mentality is so cool after all. Karma can be a bitch.
    That is not mention the “die off” that will occur when inputs from fossil fuels that allowed the human population to swell to some 6.5 billion souls, the diesel used to power large scale industrial farming, the ammonium nitrate which is made from using natural gas to counter nitrogen depletion from such large scale quick for profit methods which tend to destroy top soil, the pesticides derived from oil which are speculated to be killing off the world’s bee population, and the further diesel input to transport the food in refrigerated trucks to supermarkets where we drive to and everything depends on this “on time” system. Any disruption in this and I foresee total chaos. If anyone thinks the government will step in and save us, you had better think again. The government couldn’t even run a lemonade stand, let alone handle a localized disaster like hurricane Katrina. Imagine a sudden cut off from oil exporting countries, of whom we rely on to meet 2/3 of our staggering energy consumption. All it will take is another devaluation of the US dollar around the time Obama luanches his October surprise by bombing or invading Iran. The Arab world gets outraged, and enters into long term barter arrangements with China, dumping the now worthless US petro dollar as the world’s reserve currency.
    The best we could have hoped for was that whoever got selected in 2008 would have taken radical measures to curtial consumption and debt, scale back the government to a bare minimum, especially the military, and divert the remaining fossil fuel inputs to renewable sources or sources that would have at least allowed us to have electricity, so we could keep the lights, computers,space heaters, refrigerators (to keep the beer cold)going as we grew our own food and condensed our living arrangents with smaller, energy efficient homes and perhaps to electric trains to supplement our bicycles for transit.
    Nobody in Washington, not even Ron Paul who is the only one who strikes me as being remotely honest, will admit the joyride is over. So, get ready for “the long emergency”, or what I see as the impending disaster. As Dmitry said “this is like an economic asteroid in that is has been many years in the making. Make no mistake, this will impact and talking about avoiding it is a waste of time”. (or something to that effect).
    So we are the crazy minority, we are thinking of food preservation, water prurification, how to keep warm in the cold months, while the masses concern themselves with Whitney Houston, Demi Moore, Arnold the groper’s affairs, the super bowl, etc etc. Like I said, the US spoiled and will get totally caught off guard. The stars and stripes were not forever afterall
    Factor in

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  1009. Michigan Native February 19, 2012 at 6:39 pm #

    Thanks for the greeting. I see that alot of folks here distract themselves from the real issues. I will simply ignore the cornucopians/there will always be more oil/technology will save us/Obama will save us/we are too big to fail types or the others who wish to scape goat various people for the problems we have created and stay with the facts, with an inside story, insight, or prediction based on the facts as I see them. Too bad JHK doesn’t get in on the act once inahwile here.

  1010. charliefoxtrot February 19, 2012 at 6:46 pm #

    http://coolearthsolar.com/

  1011. xhalor February 19, 2012 at 6:51 pm #

    Did y’all forget how to play the guitar (…and mandolin)?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU2ZqjnVSo8

  1012. jackieblue2u February 19, 2012 at 6:52 pm #

    I can’t stand Rush.
    And now I have to wiki neocon.
    I just think that MS makes sense.
    Just learning.
    trying to understand.
    not sure how to classify myself yet.
    🙂

  1013. charliefoxtrot February 19, 2012 at 6:58 pm #

    hey, man, think about it: how many warlike gangs of women are you familiar with?!

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  1014. Vlad Krandz February 19, 2012 at 7:01 pm #

    You better have guns too or someone will take your hard earned provisions. Citizens with guns made the United States. They were the Militia. The Founders were against Standing Armies.

  1015. Widespreadpanic7 February 19, 2012 at 7:04 pm #

    Yea, Michigan Native, but the Dow is poised to break 13000 this week, and GM is reporting record profits. Riding around W. Conn. today I noticed woods being cut down and fields being torn up once again to erect McMansions. ‘Quicken Loans’ is advertising cheap mortgages on the radio like it was 2006.
    Nothing has changed here. This sh-t will go on forever.
    –WSP7

  1016. Vlad Krandz February 19, 2012 at 7:05 pm #

    Yeah, your man Obama is a Son of a Bush.

  1017. charliefoxtrot February 19, 2012 at 7:08 pm #

    here s a start in classifying: if you care about other lifeforms, such as other humans, elephants, ferns, etc- then you re NOT a psychopath…which, IMnotsoHO, is the most important class of all #B )]

  1018. ozone February 19, 2012 at 7:09 pm #

    No argument here.
    And that would be why I don’t put too much stock in racist rantings. That would be cleaving to an ideology that actually CODIFIES [and takes pride in] a huge waste of talent; and with what we’re about to face, that’s beyond stupid. Get through the shit-storm first, then we’ll decide who might have the most realistic ongoing approach to surviving the aftereffects.

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  1019. Vlad Krandz February 19, 2012 at 7:09 pm #

    Nazi again, huh? You weary me with your ignorance and you absolute refusal to grow as a human being. I don’t feel like looking right now. Next week maybe. Well informed people know that the Jews fought for decades to open our borders and had Ted in their back pocket.
    They also funded the NAACP. Are you going to contest that too?

  1020. ozone February 19, 2012 at 7:11 pm #

    Not enough yet, apparently.
    ;o)

  1021. xhalor February 19, 2012 at 7:12 pm #

    Things I Miss About Northern Indiana:
    1. Salamanders
    2. Monarch Butterflies
    3. Lightning Bugs

  1022. ozone February 19, 2012 at 7:14 pm #

    Now thar be a classic a’spoutin’ t’ starb’rd!
    He lives in the Vatican-inni? lol
    Ps. Is a mandolin tough to play for us sausage-fingered folk?

  1023. Vlad Krandz February 19, 2012 at 7:16 pm #

    Jackie: read George Washington’s Farewell Address. He warns America to stay out of foreign wars in the future. John Adams said the same – that we were a friend to all free peoples but would fight only for ourselves. Now compare this to all the wars America gets in. We are incapable of minding our own business. We have become war mongers.
    Neo is a prefix that means new. So literally, Neo Conservative means new conservative – ones that don’t really believe in the vision of the Founders. Many of them are not fiscally or socially conservative at all. They just excite people by scaring them about our Enemies, and exciting them by telling them how great we are.

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  1024. xhalor February 19, 2012 at 7:17 pm #

    He’s Italian
    He doesn’t use SOAP…..

  1025. xhalor February 19, 2012 at 7:21 pm #

    Sausage fingers? My sympathies. Mandolins have tiny, narrow frets. Fuggedaboudit.

  1026. xhalor February 19, 2012 at 7:27 pm #

    A Telecaster Bass, perhaps? Wanna see my picture of Leo Fender wrapped in an American flag? Extra points if you can tell me where Harry Rhodes got the parts for his “electric” piano.

  1027. charliefoxtrot February 19, 2012 at 8:01 pm #

    wtf, over…what makes you think that? he s my president in the sense that i am a patriot, and respect the office- but i hardly agree with the things he s done- and, importantly, not done…

  1028. metuselah February 19, 2012 at 8:02 pm #

    Beautiful music by Dmitry Bortniansky:
    Cherubim Hymn No. 7 – USSR Russian Academic Chorus
    http://goo.gl/Qyyqd

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  1029. BeantownBill February 19, 2012 at 8:17 pm #

    You are too funny. When you state an oxymoron like, “the facts as I see them”, what you are saying is that YOU them as facts, but maybe others don’t. In other words, these “facts” aren’t necessarily facts, but are your opinion. Which is all right, except don’t call opinions facts.
    Here are facts:
    No one has ever proven precognition exists.
    As of this minute, there has been no collapse, and the fact is, no one CAN say there will be a collapse for sure. One can say, “IMO, I think there will be a collapse, and here’s why”.
    I apologize in advance for posting a Q-like comment, but it’s weak thinking in not being precise.

  1030. xhalor February 19, 2012 at 8:17 pm #

    Yes, some more of that wretched American music. Herbie Hancock on the Rhodes piano.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DqC7CC1hRI&feature=related

  1031. BeantownBill February 19, 2012 at 8:21 pm #

    Hey, Marlin, to get off-subject for a minute, I’m going to Foxwoods on Wednesday if erverything works out ok, and if the rest of the Mass. boys want to go, we could meet there and hoist a few. You, RT, O3 and anyone else I missed.

  1032. anti soak February 19, 2012 at 8:22 pm #

    Ill start the her-cu-leen task of naming the Israeli
    dual citizen billionaires or gazillionaires…
    Clive Davis
    David Geffen
    Speilberg
    Arison
    Max Polevski [ a friend of mine knew him..financed the dems]
    Ellison [named after ellis island..half eye-talian]
    thats 7 without much thinking!!!!!
    Jewish Billionaires | Subverted Nation
    http://www.subvertednation.net/jew-lists/jewish-billionaires/
    This list barely scratches the surface of jewish billionaires, another area like the media, hollywood, congress, senate … Shari Arison – co-owner Carnival Cruise …
    Jew Watch – Leaders – List of Jewish Millionaires
    http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-leaders-list-of-jewish-millionaires.html
    List of Jewish Millionaires Posted on Usenet, 6-20-99. Jewish Newsgroup …. Arison, Micky, United States, 5.0, Carnival Cruise Lines[JEW]. 69. Hewlett, William …
    Jewish Billionaires
    http://www.sunray22b.net/jewish_billionaires.htm
    Jewish Billionaires – JewProm. Australia, Rank in Forbes …. ExLink, 601, 296, 707, 321. Micky Arison, CEO, owner, Carnival Cruise Lines, 221, 56, 189, 68
    Why are so many billionaires Jewish? – Yahoo! Answers
    answers.yahoo.com › … › All Categories › Social Science › Economics
    Dec 21, 2008 – I then typed in Jewish Billionaires in Google and found that over 1/3 of the 50 richest people on the Forbes 400 are Jewish and ~ 25% of the …
    A look at two Jewish billionaires with opposing political views | 89.3 …
    http://www.scpr.org/…/2012-election-shaped-by-two-jewish-billionaires-of
    6 days ago – Jewish billionaires Sheldon Adelson and Haim Saban share ties with the Israeli government and each has influence on a different U.S. political ………..
    Jewish Billionaires | Subverted Nation
    http://www.subvertednation.net/jew-lists/jewish-billionaires/
    This list barely scratches the surface of jewish billionaires, another area like the media, hollywood, congress, senate … Shari Arison – co-owner Carnival Cruise …
    Jew Watch – Leaders – List of Jewish Millionaires
    http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-leaders-list-of-jewish-millionaires.html
    List of Jewish Millionaires Posted on Usenet, 6-20-99. Jewish Newsgroup …. Arison, Micky, United States, 5.0, Carnival Cruise Lines[JEW]. 69. Hewlett, William …
    Jewish Billionaires
    http://www.sunray22b.net/jewish_billionaires.htm
    Jewish Billionaires – JewProm. Australia, Rank in Forbes …. ExLink, 601, 296, 707, 321. Micky Arison, CEO, owner, Carnival Cruise Lines, 221, 56, 189, 68 ………………………………………………………………………………………………..
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  1033. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 8:24 pm #

    “Now where is that list of names to back up your claim that 50% of the top 1% the US is Jewish. Cough it up, you piece of shit!”
    -mika, demonstrating very poor reading skills-
    “Some news items should be read in conjunction: otherwise, they make little sense. Recently, we were informed by Vanity Fair, that Jewish element with the US elites crossed 50%. Five years ago, it was assessed at 30%, now we are up to more than half.”
    Everybody notice the “we,” please.
    This is written by a nice Jewish gentleman, mika. I’m sure he will provide you with the list of names.
    http://www.rense.com/general78/jewishpower.htm
    Now, Mika – we see that you have called me a “piece of shit,” when actually the error was all yours.
    You’re not man enough to apologize, are you?

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  1034. anti soak February 19, 2012 at 8:24 pm #

    Of the 7 I named the first 2 are Gay!
    A neighbor[male] here in lala land dated Clive.

  1035. anti soak February 19, 2012 at 8:29 pm #

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n5p14_Marchetti.html
    Foxman charged that Ms. Parton was invoking “the old antisemitic stereotype of Jewish control of Hollywood and hostility toward Christianity.” He did not …
    the defamation league….it exists to defame.

  1036. metuselah February 19, 2012 at 8:31 pm #

    No, that’s not good enough. I want a total list of billionaires and then a count of how many in that total are Jewish. Can you do that? This way we can see how that 40% was arrived at.

  1037. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 8:32 pm #

    I then typed in Jewish Billionaires in Google and found that over 1/3 of the 50 richest people on the Forbes 400 are Jewish…
    antisoak, what is the point of your search? What difference does it makes? Why is it important to you to single out Jews? Are you antisemitic?
    If 1/3 of the 50 richest are Jewish, that means 2/3 of the richest 50 are not Jewish, probably white anglo-saxon protestant or catholic christians. Does that scare you that twice as many non-Jews are billionaires?
    What is this obsession with billionaires anyway? Don’t you have a life? Do you have to be worried about what others are doing? How does it affect you positively or negatively or in any way whether someone is a billionaire?

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  1038. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 8:39 pm #

    “The man behind the Sierra Club selling out to the “open border/high immigration” lobby is Jewish.
    I don’t know if he had ill intent for the US.
    I don’t know if he’s part of a larger conspiracy.
    But he’s definitely Jewish – and he’s definitely greatly responsible.”
    -p2c, quoted by Buck-
    “Prog,
    First of all, one man is not “greatly responsible” for open borders.”
    -bucks reply-
    Buck – I’m am quite certain that my words above make it QUITE clear that I cosider the issue Gelbaum’s derailing of Sierra Club policy on open borders – and NOT the whole change in US policy on open borders.
    Something tells me you won’t apologize, either.
    This is getting strange.
    =======================
    Asoka,so quick to erronously claim that Mika was right about “Jews making up 50% of the US elite” and that I, p2c was wrong – – asoka won’t apolgize either.
    I’m seeing a pattern, here.

  1039. metuselah February 19, 2012 at 8:40 pm #

    http://www.rense.com/general78/jewishpower.htm
    ==
    Is this supposed to be a joke? We are supposed to take the word of Jeff Rense, a classic CIA psy-ops cipher, and that’s that. Might as well cite Vlad, the Vatican Sith, as reference. As I said, you are a piece of shit, and your sick sense of humor is not in the least funny.

  1040. xhalor February 19, 2012 at 8:40 pm #

    It looks like all the international travel that has been made available to us will not make a significant dent in our homo sapiens variences. Now that it’s lookin’ like international travel is on the verge of being not so widespread, what the fuck are you worried about Vlad? BE the Komodo Dragon.

  1041. Buck Stud February 19, 2012 at 8:40 pm #

    I’ll be looking forward to your proof for your below statement:
    “And then they [The Jews] proceeded to change America forever by opening our borders to the 3rd World.”
    But I have a feeling you’ll just pull find a few Jewish names to corroborate your asinine assertion above. I’m no scientist or statistician, but some Jews supporting open borders does not equate to a conspiracy among “they”, The Jews, to “open our borders to the 3rd World”. In truth, your assertions have as much validity as a Ouija board powered after a midnight seance. Generalized and non-specific, something in your assertions are bound to stick, like a daily astrology forecast in the local rag.
    You fancy yourself clever, pointing out that “Jews are all in for themselves”,as evidenced by the likes of Bill and Mika adapting a stance of solidarity against your generic religious/ethnic tripe. You think nobody sees through your Catch 22 setups but your wrong. Very Wrong. In fact, you’re a fool.

  1042. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 8:50 pm #

    Asoka,so quick to erronously claim that Mika was right about “Jews making up 50% of the US elite” and that I, p2c was wrong – – asoka won’t apolgize either.
    Apologize for what? I have not entered the “what percentage are Jews?” guessing game that seems so important to you, and antisoak, and vlad.
    What I said is it wouldn’t matter to me what the percentage is because Jews are wonderful people with great qualities and meritocracy explains why people get the positions they have, not ethnicity or race.
    I really don’t understand why you guys are singling out Jews, unless you have an unnatural obsession, as antisemites.

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  1043. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 8:53 pm #

    Asoka –
    For living humans on Earth, there is a limit to how many people we can love.

    Q, I’ve created a monster!
    Looks like as the new RI, P2C has legs.

  1044. Buck Stud February 19, 2012 at 8:53 pm #

    It is getting strange, Prog, very strange in fact. You throw out the name of one Jewish man in order to prove what? That one Jewish man equates to a conspiracy among all Jews? What’s also strange, is that you, a biologist/scientist( if memory serves me correct) threw out such a lone example as a bone of validation for Vlad’s comment that ” they [The Jews] proceeded to change America forever by opening our borders to the 3rd World.”
    And speaking of apologies, I believe you need to make a public apology to all Jewish CFN readers as well as those offended by such loose logic implicating the greater Jewish populace.

  1045. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 8:58 pm #

    Of the 7 I named the first 2 are Gay!
    As a straight non-Jewish male it looks like you are at a disadvantage for becoming a billionaire.
    Are you both an antisemite and homophobic?

  1046. metuselah February 19, 2012 at 8:59 pm #

    Forbes 400
    ==
    I just had a quick scan of that list and it is grossly incomplete and misleading on many levels. Many names are double counted, triple counted, etc. For example, the name Pritzker appears at least 4 or 5 times, while Steve Jobs and his family members are nowhere on the list. The list looks to me as a political hack job.

  1047. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 9:04 pm #

    Wow –
    What a week.
    We’ve got Mika/Met makig these bizarre claims over and over and ove about “killing whitey,” and not a single Jewish person on the thread will challenge him, including Bean Town Bill, who I considered a CFN “friend” until about Friday of this week.
    I beginning to wonder if Vlad is right.
    I wish some somebody would jump in here and prove him wrong.
    Buck?
    asoka.?
    Bill?
    anybody?

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  1048. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 9:14 pm #

    P2C, stop being so dense.
    It was more than obvious Mika was not being serious.
    He did not literally mean he belongs to a Jewish tribe that does not have to meet because everyone understands the agenda is to “kill whitey.” He was using your words and turning them back on you.
    There was no need for a response to Mika because he actually told everyone in an earlier post that he was playing with you, just as you are now trying to provoke me with your most recent messages.
    You really need to lighten up, P2C. You took an obvious joke as a literal death threat. Wow.

  1049. BeantownBill February 19, 2012 at 9:14 pm #

    Buck, thanks for the postings in which you show the ability to see through bullshit. Lately, here on CFN, I’ve been feeling like George Armstrong Custer at Little Big Horn.
    I also thank Asoka for his kind words, although I suspect he already knows I appreciate it. I also want to thank CharlieFT, too. And anyone else I may have forgotten to mention.
    As for me, I want to discuss peak resources and ways to deal with that issue. I generally try to ignore all the racial and anti-semitic claptrap, but every so often I feel the need to fire up the guns. I just wish CFNers realize that the website has been infected with a nasty virus, and do something about it before it gets destroyed.

  1050. Michigan Native February 19, 2012 at 9:15 pm #

    What I mean by facts are data like energy to extraction ratios, the energy efficiency of this or that system, how much utility is estimated to be derived from scientists, how much oil is left by geologists and not prostitutes for the oil industry. These are facts as opposed to opinions, but believe what you will. I do not particularly mind if anyone doesn’t believe the facts, but after they become apparent, just do not say you were not warned. Stay in denial. It is temporarily a more comfortable place to be

  1051. metuselah February 19, 2012 at 9:15 pm #

    David Rockefeller Sr is the only Rockefeller on the list?! Net Worth only $2.5 Billion?! This list is total BS.

  1052. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 9:21 pm #

    This is stupid.
    Eleuthero is correct.
    Vlad is more correct than he is wrong.
    Bill, if you will defend mika “to the death,”
    you need to

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  1053. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 9:23 pm #

    to rethink your relationship with sanity.

  1054. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 9:27 pm #

    Buck
    Rerad my post – my intent is crystal clear as to to what Gelbaum did and I addressed ONLY what he did as regards the Sierra Club with careful disclaimers that it was NOT necessarily part of a conspiracy
    .

  1055. rippedthunder February 19, 2012 at 9:30 pm #

    Yo BTB, no can do, I’d like to meet ya at Foxwoods but I am not much of a gambler. I still work. 18 more days on the book. I have been before but I like the Mohegan myself. Years back ,my wife and I were at the Mohegan playing the slots. I heard some cool blues licks and lo and behold Sumbitch’ Bo Didly was playing in the Wolfs Den! I grabbed the ol’ lady and hauled her off to the front row. He was rippin’ a Gibson Flying V !! Nobody was even paying attention. It was one of the best shows I have ever seen.

  1056. xhalor February 19, 2012 at 9:45 pm #

    TWO RANTS (…just two?)
    First: THE ELITE
    I just can’t help but notice that they bleed too. If they don’t….RUN!
    Second: THE JEWS
    Why is your folk music so incredibly hard to play? I mean, really. I have to study the score, pay attention to the phrasing, and what’s with the weird-ass meters? Playing a Bar-Mitzvah sucks until you’re done. NOW, you’re in the party…

  1057. BeantownBill February 19, 2012 at 9:50 pm #

    That’s ok, RT, some other time. You don’t have to gamble at the casino – it’s also an entertainment place. It won’t be music, but Bill Maher has a show sometime in June. Now that will be interesting.
    Bo was there? Wow! is all I can say. That must have been something else.

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  1058. fzdlnolzn February 19, 2012 at 9:51 pm #

    Always make everything beautiful and sweet singing in the forgotten past
    also go away happy
    know half of bitter tears are streaming
    view
    should brave the dawn of that gorgeous record
    If you own the natural
    to a warm

  1059. BeantownBill February 19, 2012 at 9:52 pm #

    What, Jews making it easy? 🙂

  1060. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 9:53 pm #

    What I mean by facts are data like energy to extraction ratios, the energy efficiency of this or that system, how much utility is estimated to be derived from scientists, how much oil is left by geologists and not prostitutes for the oil industry.
    Energy to extraction ratios are constantly changing. And by “energy” I think you are speaking exclusively of liquid petroleum sources.
    Energy efficiency and utility likewise is subject to change, as I presented in my NUCLEAR AMMONIA post, with the liquid fluoride thorium reactor (LFTR) nuclear ammonia data, energy from ammonia is one-third the cost of energy from gasoline.
    How much oil is left is not a fact, it is an educated guess, subject to political pressures. So nobody knows how much oil is left. There are only opinions, not facts.
    From what I have read on Peak Oil from industry sources, academic sources, professional organizations, and government reports, the consensus is we have about 45 years of oil left.
    It is not cornucopian to think that a combination of renewable zero-emission energy sources, combined with population reduction initiatives and voluntary energy descent, can avoid a catastrophic collapse.

  1061. Buck Stud February 19, 2012 at 9:54 pm #

    Prog,
    Let’s put some context back into this affair. I castigated Vlad for the below comment:
    “And then they [The Jews] proceeded to change America forever by opening our borders to the 3rd World. The more diverse, they reasoned, the safer they were from Holocaust – and the more powerful they become. ”
    When I took Vlad to task on this assertion you responded with the below post, apparently, IMO, to lend some validity to his assertion:
    “”The man behind the Sierra Club selling out to the “open border/high immigration” lobby is Jewish.
    I don’t know if he had ill intent for the US.
    I don’t know if he’s part of a larger conspiracy.
    But he’s definitely Jewish – and he’s definitely greatly responsible.”
    Moreover, to further lend credence to Vlad’s assertion you state “that it was NOT necessarily part of a conspiracy.”
    I’m a little surprised, Prog, at your willingness to even consider such obvious propaganda.Perhaps you might want to reread Vlad’s post before jumping in to lend credence.

  1062. BeantownBill February 19, 2012 at 9:57 pm #

    I apologize, MN. I’ve been through a whirlwind the past few days on CFN and took it out on you a little. I don’t think a collapse is a foregone conclusion, but I am taking steps in case it does happen.

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  1063. metuselah February 19, 2012 at 9:59 pm #

    And don’t forget, P2C, that Lloyd Blankfein, Jamie Dimon, Bernie Madoff, and Timothy Geithner are also tools of the Pope. When shit like this starts being taken seriously on an allegedly intellectual blog, you know the blog’s intellectual content has seriously deteriorated.
    E.
    ==
    Ahh, the great intellectual poseur, “EL TORO”. Let me clarify things for you, “EL TORO”, so even a degenerate mental gimp such as yourself can understand. Lloyd Blankfein, Jamie Dimon, Bernie Madoff, Timothy Geithner, work for the banks. They are hired men that simply make sure that the operational directives of the bank as dictated by its directors and owners are executed in the most effective manner. So we need to ask, who owns the banks? Is it Lloyd Blankfein, Jamie Dimon, Bernie Madoff, Timothy Geithner, Ben Shalom Bernanke? No, it’s not. Ben Shalom Bernanke doesn’t even own his home and still paying a mortgage. So who owns the banks? Who owns the FED? Who was in a position to own the FED? There’s only one answer to that, and that is THE VATICAN.

  1064. Buck Stud February 19, 2012 at 10:04 pm #

    “I don’t feel like looking right now. Next week maybe. Well informed people know that the Jews fought for decades to open our borders and had Ted in their back pocket.”
    Vlad “don’t feel like looking right now” – LOL! But maybe next week. But just to try to take eyes off the ball you throw in a diversionary issue:
    “They also funded the NAACP. Are you going to contest that too? ”
    You’re a fucking clown.

  1065. Vlad Krandz February 19, 2012 at 10:10 pm #

    Victory is sweet, is it not? General Lee said to keep it down so the hoi polloi wouldn’t know how much they loved war.

  1066. Vlad Krandz February 19, 2012 at 10:14 pm #

    Hey lazy, did you try googling Jews, immigration? You might be surprised what you find. Or do you really want to know?
    The Jews got trounced this week and of course you charge in even though you don’t know anything about it. They’re the under dogs so you’re on their side. That’s exactly what you’ve been programmed to do. So good dog.

  1067. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 10:38 pm #

    They’re the under dogs so you’re on their side. That’s exactly what you’ve been programmed to do. So good dog.
    Vlad, whites are the minority in the USA. We elected Obama.
    And white nationalists are a minority within the minority.
    You have lost the white majority and you have lost your so-called “civilization” that oppressed people of color for centuries.
    It was inevitable. Nothing you can do about it, dog.

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  1068. Vlad Krandz February 19, 2012 at 10:43 pm #

    Here’s a good general one on the Jews by a Jew. She’s still lets her people off easy but she’s as honest as I think she can be – about up to our standards or what one would expect of a White Academic.
    A Jew into Nietzsche! And who accepts genetic inequality. I agree with what she says about both Christianity and her people as social reformers.
    My caveat: she doesn’t address the hypocrisy of Israel and the hard core Zionists. They have always accepted genetic inequality and that they were superior to all.
    You want articles, I’ll send you articles until you are educated or go mad.
    http://www.vdare.com/articles/jews-leftists-immigration-my-journey-to-nietzsche

  1069. Vlad Krandz February 19, 2012 at 10:50 pm #

    Careful or you’ll get what you’ve wished for. And that is always the curse of the gods.

  1070. xhalor February 19, 2012 at 11:08 pm #

    What I’m looking for is a good maker of “round-wound” as opposed to “flat-wound” mandolin strings. If I can find one that can keep it going for awhile, I’m pretty sure I can get along with all of you.

  1071. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 11:22 pm #

    Buck,
    I was responding to CharlieFoxtrot’s post at 3:15.
    Here it is in its entirety:
    “finally, a hockey game breaks out! sj 2 det 3…
    @ prog- man, that sucks! i m sure that muir and udall are both spinning in their graves…wait til yellowstone gets sold off to the mining conglomerates!”
    -CF-
    I was not trying to back up Vlad –
    at least not this time. Although I’m not retracting my idea that he and Eleuthero are onto something very important.
    Finally, regarding:
    “I’m a little surprised, Prog, at your willingness to even consider such obvious propaganda.Perhaps you might want to reread Vlad’s post before jumping in to lend credence.”
    -buck-
    Look, we all know were Vlad stands – essentially, “The Jews are in an organized conspiracy to destroy the White Race and they have deliberately opened the borders of the US in order to do it,” or something along those lines.
    I’m not willing to go that far just yet – but I’m looking into the idea with eyes wide open.
    But the link I posted is 100% legit, even vetted by BTB as NOT anti Semitic – back when Bill was still speaking to me.
    Here’s the link again:
    http://www.susps.org/
    Anyone in the Sierra Club should read this link, and then terminate their membership with a link explaining why.

  1072. xhalor February 19, 2012 at 11:38 pm #

    I found out recently that Gil Scott-Heron died in the last year. I’m remembering a phrase from some of his poetry; “…it looks like Europe in ’38”
    Don’t it?

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  1073. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 11:42 pm #

    Bill,
    I’m going to try to clear the air a little more.
    And I’m sorry you’ve had a whirlwind week on CFN. I know some of it was my fault. I’ve had a hellofa week, too – and not just on CFN. (I’d say what was going on, but asoka. would just offer up some more of those fake Atheist Muslim prayers of his – which is the absolute thing I need.)
    But you and I are up against something important, here, Bill. You should be able to criticize Mika in public, tribe or no tribe.
    I happen to believe US population is THE make or break issue for my families survival and for your families survival. (since you have no plans to emigrate, right?) I also believe that it might well be the make or break issue for human survival.
    Met/Mika was already on my last nerve with all of that, “Go Back to Europe” crap – and when you refused to engage him on that and then offered to kill for him – – – well, what WE all said is up there to be read by one and all.
    You’re entitled to your opinions, and you’re entitled to speak as forcefully as you like – so let fly at me anytime. And you’re certainly entitled to be fiercely proud of your Jewish identity. I would be, if I were you.
    But this unwillingness to criticize Mika?
    I just do not believe that’s right, man.
    I keep telling myself, “Bill does not represent all Jews. Bill does not represent all Jews.”
    I hope I’m right about that.
    Otherwise, Lord help us.
    (BTW, thanks for turning me on to the concept of an atheistic Jew. I’m looking into being an agnostic Christian. Don’t know how that’s gonna’ work out for me just yet, though.)
    ==================
    OK – that’s it.
    Not much of an olive branch, I know.
    Remember it takes two to tangle, Bill.

  1074. asoka. February 19, 2012 at 11:46 pm #

    I’m not willing to go that far just yet – but I’m looking into the idea with eyes wide open.
    P2C, soon you’ll be looking into Vlad’s other ideas with eyes wide open.
    Soon you’ll learn it’s not just the Jews who are the enemy.
    It’s the Jews, the homos, the Catholics, the feminists, the Liberals, the Negros, the Communists, the Socialists, the crony capitalists, the anarchists, the pacifists, the Illuminati, the Freemasons, the environmentalists, the Zionists, the Muslims, the Hispanics, the Arabs, the Iranians, etc.
    Enjoy your new-found company with Vlad. I’m sure he will introduce you to the fascists, the White separatists, and the White nationalists.

  1075. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 11:50 pm #

    (I’d say what was going on, but asoka. would just offer up some more of those fake Atheist Muslim prayers of his – which is the absolute thing I need.)
    OK – I swear that was NOT a Freudian slip.
    But let’s try again.
    (I’d say what was going on, but asoka. would just offer up some more of those fake Atheist Muslim prayers of his – which is the absolute LAST thing I need.)
    Please don’t pray a..
    Even if you think my subconscious demands it.
    I did give myself a little chuckle over the slip.
    Which is a good way to end the week.
    Maybe next week on CFN will be a little better?
    Can’t be no damn worse!
    Can it??

  1076. progress2conserve February 19, 2012 at 11:59 pm #

    “Enjoy your new-found company with Vlad. I’m sure he will introduce you to the fascists, the White separatists, and the White nationalists.”
    -asoka.-
    Why, thank you for your blessings, young man.
    I’ll let you know how it goes.
    If I do make it all the way in – always remember that YOU gave me my first big push toward all of it.

  1077. asoka. February 20, 2012 at 12:00 am #

    I caught that Freudian slip, but decided not to call attention to it because at that moment I felt very concerned for what might be going on in your personal life.
    I will respect your wishes.
    I hope whatever’s goin’ on gets resolved in the best way possible.

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  1078. xhalor February 20, 2012 at 12:01 am #

    I’m not going to represent ALL of the Jews:
    STOP KILLING US!
    I’m now going to represent ALL of the Palestinians:
    STOP KILLING US!
    I’m now going to represent ALL of the Armenians:
    STOP KILLING US!
    I’m now going to represent ALL of the Khazakstanians:
    STOP KILLING US!
    I’m now going to represent ALL of US:
    Is There A Way?

  1079. charliefoxtrot February 20, 2012 at 12:03 am #

    i would submit that it doesn t matter what religion one proffesses; using money, or the retraction of it, to influence policy- in this case the sierra club, tomorrow congress- in order to advance a secret agenda, vis a vis the immigration, is wrong…if you accept that more people here will adversely affect the natural parks- nominally public lands- which goes directly against the founder’s ideals…the sense of outrage i got, and maybe i should look again, was because of the secrecy and implied extortion…and prog, wtftstf were you thinking, mentioning the fact that the dude is jewish; that obscured the hell out of the issue fer sure! so how ’bout them mets, huh?! anybody click that link up there to the solar collectors? that at least addresses peak oil…

  1080. xhalor February 20, 2012 at 12:11 am #

    Charles, so far it looks like we is ALL guilty of some SERIOUS ethnocentrism. Damn, Santa hates us.

  1081. mika. February 20, 2012 at 12:16 am #

    It was more than obvious Mika was not being serious.
    He did not literally mean he belongs to a Jewish tribe that does not have to meet because everyone understands the agenda is to “kill whitey.” He was using your words and turning them back on you.
    ==
    PC, are you really going to accept such assurances from Asoka. I know I wouldn’t.

  1082. asoka. February 20, 2012 at 12:18 am #

    Things I Miss About Southern Indiana:
    1. Fresh squeezed apple cider
    2. Fresh corn on the cob
    3. Brown County

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  1083. progress2conserve February 20, 2012 at 12:19 am #

    “I’m not willing to go that far just yet – but I’m looking into the idea with eyes wide open
    -p2c, on a potential Jewish conspiracy to overpopulate the United States-
    More clarification.
    Simply CONSIDERING an idea does not make me a vile anti Semite. That’s crazy!
    And what if there is a conspiracy? What if 6 or 8 well intentioned billionaire Jews, maybe with a few billionaire Goyem thrown in for good measure thought overpopulating the United States was a fine idea – for WHATEVER reason.
    They are just men, right.
    Men who may have lost sight of damage and danger and death that might flow from their actions.
    They don’t mean for their actions to be evil, but what if their actions have that effect.
    Who should I oppose?
    Who should Bill oppose?
    Or should we BOTH, Bill and me, stand together against evil, without regard to anything but TRUTH?
    That’s my vision of how things get better.

  1084. Buck Stud February 20, 2012 at 12:21 am #

    After Google scrolling on by David Duke and others, I came across this poll among Jews on the Arizona immigration law.( I’m a little surprised that such a well informed individual such as yourself failed to notice):
    ” the response from a still-liberal, civil-rights-oriented Jewish community? 52 percent said they support the law, 46 percent oppose it.”
    http://www.thejewishweek.com/blogs/political_insider/more_ajc_poll_are_we_losing_touch_our_immigrant_past
    In fact, Jews have traditionally very liberal regarding immigration, but you engage in factual contortion and outright invention to sell your particular anti-Jewish message.
    Good reading, Herr Goebbels

  1085. progress2conserve February 20, 2012 at 12:24 am #

    “and prog, wtftstf were you thinking, mentioning the fact that the dude is jewish; that obscured the hell out of the issue fer sure!”
    -cf-
    Sorry, Charlie* – It was in the middle of a running brawl – and my local expert on all things Jewish (hi BTB!) had already vetted it as being clear of anti Semitism.
    Anyway, a new week is coming – I think we’ll live to fight again.
    *you remember those old Starkist Tuna commercials?

  1086. progress2conserve February 20, 2012 at 12:31 am #

    “PC, are you really going to accept such assurances from Asoka. I know I wouldn’t.”
    -Mika/Met-
    Dang, Met, you might not be as stupid as I though you were at first.*
    I still think you may be crazyashell, though.*
    ** Both of my comments could be considered as potential compliments – in my neck of the woods.
    ————————-
    And thanks for the confirmation that asoka is fullofshit. We both knew he was, all along.
    He takes such pride in it. Go figure?
    It’s been a good brawl, Met.
    See you next week.

  1087. charliefoxtrot February 20, 2012 at 12:32 am #

    hey x-man, like how you put that, especially the last part…i happen to believe it is in fact possible; it requires education and encouragement of empathy…of course, those necessarily take many generations to fully develope, so first a common will to get together and change as a people…which, wait a minute, means we have to realize that we ARE a people…hmm, maybe the answer to your question is as simple as we vote for a uniform (tm jerry seinfeld) fuck, it might actually work…ever read dr seuss?

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  1088. asoka. February 20, 2012 at 12:42 am #

    And thanks for the confirmation that asoka is fullofshit. We both knew he was, all along.
    He takes such pride in it. Go figure?

    I have changed my mind, P2C.
    I will be praying for your well-being and for your happiness, within my atheist Muslim universal prayers, in Arabic.

  1089. charliefoxtrot February 20, 2012 at 12:53 am #

    and prog, i know you haven t asked me my religion, but i ll go fishin’ for you first chance i get…is it monday morning, yet?!

  1090. progress2conserve February 20, 2012 at 12:56 am #

    “I will be praying for your well-being and for your happiness, within my atheist Muslim universal prayers, in Arabic.”
    Well, OK – guess I can’t stop you, if that’s what you feel led to do. Just add this one line, and I’ll try to be OK with it:
    ????? ????? ??? ?????? ????? ?? ???? ???? ?? ????? ???? ?????.
    Gotta’ quit. Big day tomorrow.
    ‘Night asoka. ‘Night Q.
    ‘Night CFN. ‘Night JohnBoy.

  1091. anti soak February 20, 2012 at 1:34 am #

    In 2 words: EMMA LAZARUS

  1092. asoka. February 20, 2012 at 1:43 am #

    In 2 words: Emma Goldman : Biography

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  1093. asoka. February 20, 2012 at 1:48 am #

    In 1919 Woodrow Wilson appointed A. Mitchell Palmer as his attorney general. Soon after taking office, a government list of 62 people believed to hold “dangerous, destructive and anarchistic sentiments” was leaked to the press. It was also revealed that these people had been under government surveillance for many years. Worried by the revolution that had taken place in Russia, Palmer became convinced that Communist agents were planning to overthrow the American government. Palmer recruited John Edgar Hoover as his special assistant and together they used the Espionage Act (1917) and the Sedition Act (1918) to launch a campaign against radicals and left-wing organizations.

  1094. Bustin J February 20, 2012 at 1:53 am #

    Q said, “But to your point(s)… Santorum was interviewed on one of the AM political shows today and, I felt, did a good job of explaining why the Federal Govt and probably the State too, should NOT be involved in public education. This is something I have long believed.
    And what happens when they ARE involved?”
    They shoot around 15-30% from the field… if you watch waiting for Superman they show the stats.
    “You get these stupid, wasteful and ineffective lunch programs (as just one example) by which, as you say, we are starving our kids.”
    Yes! It is ridiculous. Why are we supporting a make-work industry to feed our kids in factories dressed up as a cartoon of a restaurant?

  1095. Bustin J February 20, 2012 at 1:57 am #

    Scenes from James Cameron’s Titanic II: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuSz0Xabsxg

  1096. asoka. February 20, 2012 at 2:05 am #

    You get these stupid, wasteful and ineffective lunch programs
    Yes, instead of replacing the junk food with real food, as Michelle Obama is trying to do, we could just not give the kids any food. They probably would not die. Who needs food anyhow? Think of how much we could reduce the deficit! Not.

  1097. asoka. February 20, 2012 at 2:53 am #

    Nationally, the average cost to prepare a school lunch is about $3.00.
    The per diem for local meals (Govt. Meal Rate) for military personnel is $41.00 divided by 3 is $13.66.
    $3.00 = School lunch
    $13.66 = Military lunch (GMR)

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  1098. messianicdruid February 20, 2012 at 9:42 am #

    “Is There A Way?”
    “For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope [expectation] that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.
    Paul makes it clear that the creation had no choice in being subjected to “futility” and to “slavery to corruption.”
    http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.org/books/creations/Chapter13.cfm

  1099. old69 February 20, 2012 at 9:44 am #

    Hey Busty, I WIN, I WON, I AM A WINNER, JOBSTER LOBSTER, APSTER MAN, SHLACLA LACK, SHPACK A LACK, SHLECK A LAK A SHPECK A LAC, A SHPECK A LEK A SHLEK A LEK SHPEK A LEK, I WIN, PLEASE LET ME WIN, LIKE A CRYBABY, I AM A CRY BABY, I WIN I WON, JOBSTER LOBSTER, APSTER MAN, JOBSTER LOBSTER, APSTER MAN, YOU MAIR, YOU FAIRY, CHICKEN PUA, PA PA PA PA CHICKEN , YOU MAIR YOU FAIRY, JOBSTER LOBSTER, APSTER MAN…SAY I WIN JACKA*SS, SAY I WIN PLEASE, I WANT TO WIN ALWAYS…
    And I am a 21st Century Schizoid Man.
    2001 A Space Odyssey.
    Planet of the Apes.

    Reminds me of:
    From:
    http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=177699
    “Question: What was there before the big bang ?
    Answer: Would you ask me a different question if I gave you an answer ?
    Question: and what was there before a “question”, any “question” ?
    Answer: another question ….
    Question: What is the generalized solution to all possible questions ?
    Answer: a Symbol.”
    From:
    http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/64391-laws-of-physics/
    “Smash things together to produce a region so hot, and so chaotic that the current theories no longer make sensible predictions.
    We then examine the outcome, to see which new things happen.”
    And then why not smash car engines against each other in huge magnetrons and see how they disintegrate in many different pieces, maybe even while the car engines are running, a car engine accelerator (instead of particle accelerators) to study how they break up colliding, and make believe they are metaphysical entities…

  1100. old69 February 20, 2012 at 9:45 am #

    Hey Busty, I WIN, I WON, I AM A WINNER, JOBSTER LOBSTER, APSTER MAN, SHLACLA LACK, SHPACK A LACK, SHLECK A LAK A SHPECK A LAC, A SHPECK A LEK A SHLEK A LEK SHPEK A LEK, I WIN, PLEASE LET ME WIN, LIKE A CRYBABY, I AM A CRY BABY, I WIN I WON, JOBSTER LOBSTER, APSTER MAN, JOBSTER LOBSTER, APSTER MAN, YOU MAIR, YOU FAIRY, CHICKEN PUA, PA PA PA PA CHICKEN , YOU MAIR YOU FAIRY, JOBSTER LOBSTER, APSTER MAN…SAY I WIN JACKA*SS, SAY I WIN PLEASE, I WANT TO WIN ALWAYS…
    And I am a 21st Century Schizoid Man.
    2001 A Space Odyssey.
    Planet of the Apes.

    Reminds me of:
    From:
    http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=177699
    “Question: What was there before the big bang ?
    Answer: Would you ask me a different question if I gave you an answer ?
    Question: and what was there before a “question”, any “question” ?
    Answer: another question ….
    Question: What is the generalized solution to all possible questions ?
    Answer: a Symbol.”
    From:
    http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/64391-laws-of-physics/
    “Smash things together to produce a region so hot, and so chaotic that the current theories no longer make sensible predictions.
    We then examine the outcome, to see which new things happen.”
    And then why not smash car engines against each other in huge magnetrons and see how they disintegrate in many different pieces, maybe even while the car engines are running, a car engine accelerator (instead of particle accelerators) to study how they break up colliding, and make believe they are metaphysical entities…

  1101. charliefoxtrot February 20, 2012 at 9:47 am #

    i d say it shows who has been affected by the “financial crisis”….
    httm://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article305888.htm

  1102. old69 February 20, 2012 at 9:48 am #

    “Does it mean that on a microscopic level the universe operates in ways so obscure and unfamiliar that the human mind, evolved over eons to cope with phenomena on familiar everyday scales, is unable to fully grasp ‘what really goes on’? ”
    I’m bored. I will answer since I am bored and don’t know what to do to waste some time (but time wastes us as we get closer and closer to death). At what point would you be satisfied by your “understanding” ? what would constitute an “understanding” ? A capability to manipulate to any degree matter ? do you fully grasp anything at all ? can you fully grasp anything at all ? At what point would you be satisfied with the understanding you imagine you could get ? how would you imagine 100 % understanding of something ? do we ever understand anything at all ?
    If I gave you an answer on how Quantum Physics “really works”, would you ask me yet another question ? And how many other, a never ending array of new questions can you come up with ? and what if the questions themselves were the explanations and the explanations the questions ? and what if the answers were totally disjoint and unrelated to any questions, all disjoint and a chaotic mess ?
    Take the waves on a shore, can you predict the next form ? and if you could, what would you have achieved ? would that satisfy you ?
    I tend to look at these kinds of problems and doubts and all as some kind of imaginary problem the mind has, the mind seems to want more than it has, seems to want something different or better or whatever.
    But I think all of these kinds of problems can be solved simply changing the circuits of our minds, and assigning them as fully satisfied, fully achieved, fully in 100 % understanding mode, in full discovery of all achieved.
    Or as science is the activity that formats the unknown into the known ? Or describes some intractable things into other tractable and clear things, as converting or translating a sequence of symbols (a set of input information, a configuration of input bits) into another sequence of symbols that we “recognize” and “understand” (or we assign it as if we understand ? ).
    Maybe the entire deal is simply the action -> reaction circuits in which we put ourselves in, as in the questions -> answers circuits, or the out -> input as reaction to output circuits, so in essence what we are looking for is an interaction space large enough to contain all possible entities and their interactions as we interact with reality.
    Science and Research as a constant cycle of ever new sequences of symbols containing ever new and larger classes of phenomena: It is like an answer to a question, a new set of symbols that may allow you to manipulate and interact further with reality, and this provokes another different set of questions and a further new set of answers that allow you to manipulate and interact with reality even further and so on for many cycles until you reach a point where you can interact and manipulate reality in all possible modes, for anything you want, in any possible way so as to satisfy any possible desire or start point to target point, goal oriented intentionalities.
    But this total “satisfaction achieved” can be obtained in two faster and simpler ways: 1) simply declaring yourself “totally satisfied”, “totally achieved” or inventing a symbol any symbol or concept or anything at all, nay, simply lying to yourself to the extreme that “all has been achieved, all has been discovered”, you are now completely satisfied by a FINAL SYMBOL (invented or real ? or simply a lie ? who cares, as long as it works), a final sequence of symbols that really means “All Possible Discoveries Achieved Once and For All and Forever”;
    OR
    2) Modify the circuitry of you mind brain, change your Man Brain, manipulate the neural circuits and connections and subsystems until you reach “Total Satisfaction Achieved”, until “Everything You can Ever Want And Desire is Achieved”.

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  1103. old69 February 20, 2012 at 9:49 am #

    That was from:
    http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=178194

  1104. messianicdruid February 20, 2012 at 9:53 am #

    There’s only one answer to that, and that is THE VATICAN.
    http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1023-financial-tyranny

  1105. messianicdruid February 20, 2012 at 10:03 am #

    “Love is an emotion, which, by definition, contains with in it the seed of Hate since Love only has meaning by reference to its opposite Hate.”
    Even wikipedia can do better than that.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Four_Loves

  1106. ozone February 20, 2012 at 10:05 am #

    Let’s return to thoughts about actual human beans, shall we; for just a moment?
    http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/
    …And you had thought Arthur Silber vanished into the ether of death and dissolution. Nay, your hopes be dashed; the hoariest and perhaps most nit-pickiest of humanist commentators lives still to lay his trot lines of cruel barbs for the unwary and the heedlessly secure.
    Prepare to leave your gods at the door, for the daemons rule herein….
    *********
    ***********
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  1107. charliefoxtrot February 20, 2012 at 10:17 am #

    goes to show just who is being affected by the “financial crisis”…
    httm://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30588.htm

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    i don t know why that didn t link…

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  1115. Michigan Native February 22, 2012 at 2:28 am #

    Tis an interesting place, now that I have had time to read posts from others. I am glad to see that this is a the only place where people can express themselves freely, no matter what they say, without have some biased shithead at the control switch determining what they think is “poiltically correct”. I was born in 1963, but should have been born 10-15 years ealier, but I always admired the “hippies” and although not necessarily one of them, I adhere to the late Frank Zappa school of thought. I have to listen to xtian prayer and live in a system full of their hypocrisy, yet I can’t say what the fuck I want without being censored because someone else may not like what I have to say. My answer to that is feel free to not repsond to me whenever you feel like it, because our pissant words here will definetly not affect the long term outcome of the “long emergency” we face.
    So whoever apologized to me, tis OK. No need to. We need to get used to tolerating diverse opinions if we stand a chance of surviving our collapse, which from what I can gather, is not only inevitable but just 1-3 years away.
    Our system was based upon this myth of exponetial growth. Without the physical resources needed to sustain it, especially cheap and abundant energy, such growth is constrained, simply not possible. The world, not just the US, is feeling the strain of the limits or impossibility of endless growth.
    The US is tragically dependent on the myth of endless growth as well as delusion of endless cheap and abundant energy. We have consumed way beyond our means and planned spawling suburbs and this soon to be short lived “car culture” based upon this notion that the country that made so many innovations, even landed a man on the moon, would always be able to enjoy the fruits of modern life and enjoy a never ending supply of cheap/free energy. The reality is, the party is over.
    Now that this bublle is bursting, as so many people are talking about the prospect of $5.00/gallon gasoline by the summer and attributing it to greed vs to the real cause, diminishing supply vs increased demand of a finite and non renewable source, the US has no choice as the staggering debt it has taken on (debt being money, whether it’s real or just imagined as symbols and numbers on pieces of paper) is “lending” out money with the idea that future growth can repay it. Without the physical resources to expand growth, then whoever takes on the debt defaults, which means less money to finance the physical resources needed to expand growth (namely, oil).
    When the debt cannot be repaid, governments try to print their way out by speeding up their money printing pressed. Take note…the US dollar was downgraded from a AAA rating to a AA rating. As the debt can no longer be maintianed and the growth no longer financed by a worthless paper currency, then the ability to maintian existing capital is gone. Austerity conditions are then imposed on the countries that default. In sum the wholesale collapse of the US is inevitable and no amount of wishful thinking, such as the US military can steal resources from those few countries who have some left but are in terminal decline……what the flagwaving types do not realize is the staggering amounts of energy it takes to maintain the over 1000 overseas bases the US presently maintains, let alone the even more staggering amounts of energy it takes to wage warfare (Iraq and Afghanistan being the latest examples….some would argue Libya)
    Technology will not save us, there is no overnight solution to take the place of what took the sun eons of time to store for us in the form of carbon based energy. As JHK pointed out, carbon based fuels is like having thousands of slaves at your disposal (in that they work for free or were traded/sold for cheap)
    The alternatives are either based on fossil fuels to create them or expend more energy than what can be extracted from them. One post mentioned “space based” methods of utilizing solar power to circumvent land based solar methods.
    How much energy is required to send such platforms into space, how safe is the technology (thinking of solar flares and micro meteorites), and how long would it take such a massive program to kick into high gear? Can this solar program even begin to supplant or even replace the agricultural surplus brought on by the advent of large scale industrial farming, made possible by the advent of cheap fossil fuels and their by-prodcuts and the processes that depend on them?
    These are the questions that we must face free of denial, wishful thinking, if we are to survive “the long emergency”

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  1150. vagturena6 March 12, 2012 at 12:03 am #

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    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    MITT ROMNEY, (R), FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOVERNOR & PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Some people study it and come to know conservatism by their readings. I’ve actually live conservativism in my life, in my home, in my family, in my faith also in business.

    RICK SANTORUM, (R), FORMER PENNSYLVANIA SENATOR & PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I’m not for the government getting involved in bailouts, period. That, to me, is something that the folks in Detroit say, well, look, he is a man of principle.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

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    GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST OF, “ON THE RECORD”: I don’t know. The only thing I know what he said. Right now, he is 0-1 with me.

    SANTORUM:It was a stupid joke.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    SCOTT:And as for the other two in the race, some in the media are calling for Gingrich and Paul to step aside and stop the distractions. Is it right for the press to push them out?

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    • katrickcjl March 16, 2012 at 1:55 am #

      Jeans and Sneakers: Fashion Don ts in Paris?

      Are sneakers a barely acceptable dress-down accessory in Paris, or even a fashion statement which US tourists can use to their benefit? The Senior Editor of net magazine Paris Eiffel Tower News, Phil Chavanne, discusses the subject from all angles.
      Staying the Senior Editor of Paris-Eiffel-Tower-News.com, visitors e-mails have a magical tendency to find their strategy to my desk. The good side of it’s I’m permitted to pause vainly as an professional on all that is Paris, and impart my thin knowledge in the French capital to studious travelers. Amongst the numerous questions supplied, one keeps coming back: Is it considered bad taste to put on sneakers in Paris? Ah-ha! That’s an issue P.G. Wodehouse’s Bertie Wooster would are already delighted to jump on. Following while in the footsteps of this worthy role model, I shall bring an solution to this existential torment as soon as and for all with thundering authority.
      Paris, French style, sneakers
      Paris-bound tourists are usually from the opinion that French women are die-hard style victims. This claim is certainly exaggerated, although access to stylish clothing is heavily facilitated in Paris in which women magazines such as Elle and Figaro Madame dictate what’s fashionable and what’s not.
      In my humble opinion, perennial tastes seem very a lot alike in Paris and New York City. Globalization tends to homogenize fashion, generating work-a-day wear comparable in significant cities.
      Regardless of, the sneaker problem continues to be valid. Sneakers are now such a commodity in the US, how is it in Paris?
      The normally accepted organization dress code in France typically bars sneakers from getting into the corporate atmosphere, except for low-level positions. As a result the Parisian woman wears good-looking city shoes to visit operate, except if the company which employs her cultivates a sporty image during which sneakers locate a organic house.
      Nevertheless sneakers are becoming design icons in their own right. Adidas, Puma and Nike each have their particular Parisian retailers, and crank out much more designs a convincing fashion-victim could effortlessly shake charge cards at. Adidas just lately teamed with iconic fashion designer Yohji Yamamoto to produce Y-3, a new line of dress-up sneakers. Stella McCartney also has her own Adidas line.
      What key distinction in shoe-attitude could we identify in between American and French she-consumers? The latter will put on sneakers as design and style objects, not as workaday footwear. Sneakers won t be purchased for comfort, but will find a simple way into a tight purse once they compliment dress-down pants and make their proprietor search very good. The She-Parisian loves sneakers which make her feet look thin, tiny, and classy.
      A mere glance at the varieties of sneakers most generally witnessed on women’s feet in Paris is telling: you won t see any wide, cushy, comfy-looking, plain vanilla sneakers. You’ll see little, thin-looking, flat-sole, designer sneakers.
      For exactly the same motives, a pair of Stephane Kelian or Robert Clergerie footwear will nearly constantly be favored more than a pair of good-looking Pumas. Footwear are a style statement, and the far more understated it’s, the better.
      That’s one more main variation amongst French and American women. Understatement is a cardinal rule in French fashion. Something which is also visible is regarded garish. That is why the minor black dress is such a style icon, and why Audrey Hepburn will usually be remembered since the Quintessential Trendy American Lady.
      Tourism in sneakers
      All this isn’t going to mean you can t wear sneakers whenever you travel to Paris!
      For a single point, sneakers tend to be cozy walking shoes. Because the extremely finest strategy to discover Paris is to stroll along its streets, wearing shoes in which you’re feeling comfortable covering 5 miles every day at a leisurely pace is an critical decision. It’ll influence your standard mood during your remain inside the French capital.
      Do not back off from wearing sneakers if these are your best walking shoes.
      My second point refers to the look issue . Will I search great in the streets, or will I be the laughingstock of all these snooty, dressed-up, fashion-conscious Parisian ladies?
      Frankly, you ought to not ask by yourself this query. Simply because who cares about your seems inside the street? Never be self-conscious, just be comfy within your footwear. You might be a tourist, this can be your very personal time in Paris! Jeans and sneakers are worldwide. Individuals is not going to be offended by your attire. Unless you dress in 80’s disco garb with polka-dot sneakers, no person around you may thoughts your looks.
      And if they ever notice your jeans, LL Bean trekking shoes, and Patagonia jacket, effectively, push come to shove, they may believe you’re American. And so what? In all likelihood they’ll enjoy your going to Paris.
      Dining out in sneakers
      Does it indicate you are able to wear sneakers everywhere, on any and every event? Not so.
      For example, are you able to have dinner inside a restaurant shoed with your brand-new white sneakers?
      For the sake of it, let’s envision you’re strolling along in your Levi’s jeans and Lands End boots. It’s now dinner time, you are hungry, and scanning the landscape looking for a promising restaurant. There’s it! The menu displayed outdoors is appetizing, prices are inside of your comfort zone, the place is not so crowded… Ah, but visitors are dressed smartly. Will they let you in? Will you match in?
      I’ve yet to determine a door sign indicating No Sneakers Allowed in Paris. Some high-brow areas may expertly leave you at bay: Do you’ve got a reservation? Sorry, we are total tonight . But beside individuals uncommon snobbish places, no restaurant will refuse to seat you since you wear casual sneakers.
      As a result the proper query is just not Will I be allowed in? , but Will I experience at ease entering a dressy spot in sneakers? I venture that you most likely would not. And also the difficulty is the fact that becoming self-conscious can be a surefire way to kill your meal. Your interest should be within your plate and on your food, not on your shoes and garb.
      My practical rule is Dress in accordance with the lieu . Should you intend to dine out at costly, dressy dining establishments if you are in Paris, just bring your Pradas. Greater however: pay a go to to Stephane Kelian’s and Robert Clergerie’s boutiques in Paris, and buy oneself gorgeous-looking footwear by these Parisian designers.
      A night in sneakers a the Opera
      You will find other places wherever sneakers just won t cut it.
      The Opera Residence is certainly one of them. But I am aware no one who could be so foolish as to decorate in jeans and sneakers for a night with the Opera. Therefore the sneaker situation is deemed moot.
      What concerning the cabaret? I say it’s a lot much better to dress up if you plan to commit the evening at Moulin Rouge , Lido , and Paradis Latin . Though the stage will be the only spot nicely lit in these spots, men and women around you’ll usually dress up for the event. You can be a lot more comfortable in some formal wear.
      How about the boats on the Seine? If you’re boarding a boat to get a dinner cruise, don t wear sneakers. This is a romantic experience, you may desire to take advantage of it. An evening dress is de rigueur . On the other hand, in the event you just wish to cruise up and down the stream, sneakers are fine.
      Museums? Neglect type, wear really at ease footwear. No person will have a look at your shoes, art is on the walls. But walking down the Louvre galleries can be a tiring knowledge: a lot too see, a lot of galleries, so slow the pace. The great doctor’s suggestions: go with cushion and comfort.
      Art gallery vernissages ? Type is your cue. Art galleries are modest, vernissage evenings are quick. Evening dress, black ideally, nothing at all flashy, and good-looking style shoes. No sneakers.
      Wrapping up
      Dress for the place you visit. Should you be unsure concerning the dress code, you could possibly get in touch with in advance to get appraised of it. Pack a dressy pair of footwear, or purchase one particular when you are in Paris. Bring a discreet, understated evening dress.
      But don t back away from sneakers for other not-so-formal occasions. Wear them shamelessly within the street. You will blend just fine in the event you harbor a pair of jeans and a pair of sneakers. Nike is an American brand, and it truly is extremely popular in France. Levi’s, Diesel, and Calvin Klein are American manufacturers, and they rule the French jeans scene too. In reality, I can t really feel of any domain in France in which American culture did not leave a mark – except perhaps cuisine.
      So be at ease in your sneakers, and enjoy the view.

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    • jerseysliijh March 16, 2012 at 12:02 pm #

      In Pursuit Of Miller’s Landscape

      I have always been a great admirer in the artist John Miller. His simplistic coastal landscapes are a fantastic escape from the rigours of city existence in Birmingham.
      But what in the subjects of his perform? Were they just figments of his imagination or did these locations truly exist?
      Considering that getting my first print ‘Estuary’, his worlds have constantly appeared a beautiful Utopia, scenes of unrivalled all-natural beauty, someplace I wished to be.
      Sooner or later I found his operate portrayed considerably with the coastline of St Ives Bay in Cornwall, the county of unrivalled myths and legends, and the estuary in query was in Hayle.
      It wasn’t extended until finally I was creating my way south along the M5 motorway in pursuit in the landscape John Miller had identified so irresistible. The M5 will take you for the south of England.
      Selecting up the A30 would take me to the far reaches from the southwest, first Devon and in the end into Cornwall.
      The journey down the M5 was relatively nondescript. There is tiny to catch your eye while you make your way south. The motorway is just a hyperlink to all of the towns and cities along the west coast.
      But on reaching Devon, the A30 takes you through gorgeous English countryside. Green rolling hills frame the horizon. The land is dressed like a patchwork quilt as farmers go about their daily company harvesting the land and seeing for the numerous animals scattered about their fields.
      Driving by way of Cornwall was equally enjoyable, though the skyline was dominated occasionally by manmade structures.
      The green land and blue waters of isolated lakes have been interrupted by huge wind turbines. Stood like giant white sentinels, even though they might be somewhat sore around the eye, they may be an vital piece with the jigsaw if governments are to discover alterative energy sources to ease the threat of international warming.
      The ‘Welcome to Hayle’ sign was greeted having a sigh of relief having invested the previous 5 hrs around the road. I headed for the docks and parked the car.
      There have been a dozen or so fishing boats while in the harbour, many manned as fisherman prepared their vessels for any days perform.
      I left the boats and followed the water as it led through the estuary. It snaked its way via the contours of the land.
      As I rounded a final bend the river met the sea and for the primary time I could see in which Miller had painted ‘Estuary’. I stood at the precise spot he ought to have sat with his easel. It was simple to envision the inspiration that need to have flooded by way of his body.
      As I walked nearer for the sea, the scene unfolded prior to me. Towards the left the coast continued to sweep close to prior to reaching the town of St Ives.
      I headed right, attempting to remain out the way in which from the dozens of wind surfers scattered regarding the seashore. Now the whole from the bay was visible. Numerous miles of golden sands lay just before me.
      As the shoreline drifted away for the left, Godrevy Lighthouse stood at the finish with the bay, so prominent in a lot of John Miller’s paintings. Finally I had observed Miller’s landscape come to life.

    • jerseyskdnku March 16, 2012 at 12:36 pm #

      Jamaican Vacations: Your Booking Possibilities

      Are you interested in traveling to Jamaica? Regardless of whether you might be seeking to book a family members getaway, a romantic getaway, or perhaps a honeymoon, it’s suggested that make your vacation reservations well in advance. Jamaica is identified for its beauty; consequently, numerous popular trip resorts rapidly fill up with reservations. Generating your Jamaican getaway reservations nicely ahead of time will help to ensure that you do get your dream trip.

      Given that you now know the importance of making your Jamaican vacation reservations properly beforehand, you might be curious as to how you must go about making individuals reservations. As you most likely previously know, you’ve got quite a few different possibilities. Among your alternatives entails making use of the providers of a locally operated travel agent. Travel agents are best for those who may possibly be pressed for time. Possibly, the only downside to making use of the solutions of an expert travel agent is the fact that you might be, in essence, putting your trip inside the hands of a stranger. A lot of men and women, probably just like you, just do not really feel comfortable doing this.

      If you’re interested in organizing your Jamaican trip, instead of relying on the help of an expert travel agent, it’s advised that you just turn to the internet for support. What is great regarding the web is always that it can connect you to numerous on the internet travel sites or online travel organizations, like trip or travel companies that operate right with several well-known Jamaican vacation resorts. Together with the internet, it nearly makes it so that you don t ever require to use the service of a travel agent once more.

      When making your own personal Jamaican vacation reservations, you might have the choice of producing each and every of the reservations individually and independently. As an illustration, you’ll be able to initial investigation and examine airlines that take you to Jamaica, along with their fees. As soon as you uncover a Jamaican airline that meets your expectations, it is possible to acquire your ticket or tickets on the internet. Following this method continues to be completed, you may move on to booking yourself an automobile rental reservation, along with a keep at a poplar Jamaican getaway resort. What’s good about this strategy is always that you ought to have the ability to pay out for every of the reservations on-line using a bank card or a debit card which can be processed as a charge card.

      Although it truly is greater than achievable for you personally to book every single of one’s subsequent Jamaican holiday reservations individually and independently, you may want to refrain from doing so, particularly should you be busy or pressed for time. However, producing every single of the Jamaican trip reservations individually and independently can be a time consuming process. The excellent news, nonetheless, is that you still have further Jamaican holiday booking alternatives to pick from. Certainly one of people options includes creating all of your travel arrangements while in the kind of a trip package.

      Even when you’ve got in no way traveled to Jamaica or the Caribbean ahead of, there’s a very good likelihood which you have heard of getaway packages prior to. Getaway packages allow you to make many vacation reservations or travel arrangements all at the same time. Common getaway packages typically include airline reservations, overnight stays at popular hotels or resorts, in addition to vehicle rentals. The capacity to book multiple holiday reservations all at as soon as can conserve you a significant period of time, along with hassle, when organizing your up coming Jamaican vacation.

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      In case you would really like to go to Jamaica and if you’re sure about handling the booking of your own trip reservations, you will desire to examine Superclubs.com. With a big choice of affordable, however good quality vacation packages to select from, you will be sure to discover what you require, plus some, at Superclubs.com.

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    • youmouyixia March 18, 2012 at 7:48 am #

        According to British Sky Broadcasting 8 days to report, two each from the United Kingdom and Italy hostage in Nigeria on the same day was killed by the kidnappers, British Prime Minister Cameron announced the same day evening broadcast implement rescue operations have failed.
        Cameron said, by the British and the Nigeria government authorization, British special forces and the Nigeria army to implement the rescue failed to rescue the hostages. Although the final outcome uncertain, but the signs, the two hostages in rescue troops arrive or are implementing the rescue the kidnapped kill. solar bag
        Englishman Chris? Mark Ma Lusi and Italian Franco? Pull Mooney Lana last May in the city of Northwest Nigeria on Bill rather than being kidnapped by terrorists. Two people are employed in the Nigeria capital Abuja, a construction company, the two in Bill rather than a bank opened in construction project. The kidnappers later had shot a video uploaded to the Internet, threatening to take the lives of two people. wedding dress
        In recent years, has been more than foreign workers were kidnapped in Nigeria.
       

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    • jerseysliijh March 19, 2012 at 2:21 am #

      Leaving Nothing To be Sought after In North Carolina – North Carolina Travel Data

      In the Atlantic Seaboard for the Appalachian Mountains, North Carolina has each of the bases covered for travel, regardless of whether it’s business or pleasure. Spanning from outdoor recreation to exquisite dining and from present day market to historical legends, North Carolina is the spot to travel any time of 12 months. Each and every with the 4 distinct seasons has some thing to provide.

      North Carolina was certainly one of the 13 original colonies, despite the fact that its historical past begins significantly earlier as the 1st English settlement inside the new world. The mysterious Lost Colony? on Roanoke Island was established by the Crown in 1585, composed mainly of men. By 1587, when an expedition had returned, the entire settlement was gone. You’ll find many theories about whether or not they have been assimilated into one among the many local tribes or if they had perished as the hands of natives or as a result of starvation; thankfully, you’ll be able to visit the archaeological site right now and decide for by yourself what may are already their fate. Roanoke Island also comes about to be the birthplace in the initial English child born in the New World, Virginia Dare.

      Travel North Carolina from Border to Border

      North Carolina is divided into 4 distinct areas, gaining in elevation because they move west. Consequently, travelers for the state can appreciate a fantastic mixture of Southern warmth and Northeastern cool all in 1 journey. The Blue Ridge Mountains within the Shining Rock Wilderness Location is a majestic destination for hikers and backpackers within the Appalachian Mountains that wind their way by means of Western North Carolina. There are also a number of ski resorts and winter getaways in this elevated part of the state, as well as the highest peak east with the Mississippi River: Mount Mitchell.

      Central North Carolina is a flat area identified as Piedmont in which all of North Carolina’s key cities are positioned. The Analysis Triangle, made up of Raleigh (the capital), Durham, and Chapel Hill, is exactly where quick paced University existence meets cosmopolitan charm and booming industry. In addition to Charlotte, this area is North Carolina’s cultural center, hosting many arts and entertainment activities and planet class museums. Yet another essential web site will be the state capitol constructing in Raleigh, built in 1840, which has survived the check of war and is nevertheless standing nowadays.

      Panning further east, you are going to enter the Coastal Plain region of North Carolina. Be sure that Kitty Hawk, on North Carolina’s Outer Banking institutions, is a end in your travels. The Wright Brothers produced this the birthplace of present day aviation. Travel North Carolina’s Outer Banks, just off the mainland, for wonderful seaside activities such as fishing, boating and straightforward summer sun rest.

      From Sea to Snow, Travel North Carolina Head to Toe

      Any time of 12 months is perfect for arranging travel to North Carolina. Airfare to North Carolina can also be hassle-free for all sorts of travel using the choice of several main city destinations in different locales. The dynamic nature of North Carolina’s borders is sure to satiate essentially the most eclectic of travel desires.

    • jerseysliijh March 19, 2012 at 2:24 am #

      I Often Look At License Plates

      I’m among people those that constantly gets a little board when I drive. I adore to be while in the vehicle, but I obtain a small ansy when I have nothing at all other than driving to perform. Staying while in the auto with buddies or household is wonderful because then we can share good conversation, but I don’t often have folks in the auto with me. I recently took a long road trip across many of the country. It sounds crazy, but I really drove from Virginia to Oregon and back to get a venture I was operating on. I began seeking at license plates to pass the time.
      I agreed to complete the long road trip for my task. My magazine editor was searching for a author who would take two months away in the office and compose a series of pieces about traveling across nation in a vehicle without having maps and without a plan of wherever to remain or wherever to travel. I took the supply with no thinking about my disdain for getting inside the car alone for hrs on end. And allow me assure you that this venture essential lengthy hours alone. Inside of a hundred miles of leaving our workplace in Virginia I had begun seeking for various license plates. I got out a notepad and started to record each with the different license plates I saw.
      My target grew to become to determine all of the license plates with the fifty states and as many varieties of every state license plate in the two months of my road trip. I figured that in that period of time on high methods and roads in a lot of states I’d possess a really great chance of seeing every one of the license plates. I doubted that I’d come across Hawaii or Alaska, but I was hopeful about the other forty eight states.
      You would not believe just how much of my vitality was taken up for the duration of that road trip by seeking for different license plates. It kept me awake in the course of extended stretches of road when I would usually be bored and distracted. I loved maintaining track in the license plates and of how close I was getting to my aim. I told close friends, household and co-workers about my major supply of enjoyment through the trip and I get many different reactions from them. Some believed that trying to find license plates was a fantastic way to pass the time, other people laughed at my aim and believed I should be doing far more productive items through the two months around the road.

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