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It was interesting to watch the Cable News divas go incandescent under the glare of their own gaslight late yesterday when they received the unpleasant news that the Barr & Durham “review” of RussiaGate had been officially upgraded to a “criminal investigation.” Rachel Maddow’s trademark pouty-face got a workout as she strained to imagine “…what the thing is that Durham might be looking into.” Yes, that’s a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma, all right… with a sputtering fuse sticking out of it. Welcome to the Wile E. Coyote Lookalike Club, Rache. You’ll have a lot of competition when the Sunday morning news-chat shows rev up.

Minutes later, the answer dawned on her: “It [the thing] follows the wildest conspiracy theories from Fox News!” You’d think that someone who invested two-plus years of her life in the Mueller report, which blew up in her pouty-face last spring, might have felt a twinge of journalistic curiosity as to the sum-and-substance of the thing. But no, she just hauled on-screen RussiaGate intriguer David Laufman, a former DOJ lawyer who ran the agency’s CounterIntel and Export Control desk during the RussiaGate years, and also helped oversee the botched Hillary Clinton private email server probe.

“They have this theory,” Rachel said, “that maybe Russia didn’t interfere in the election….”

“It’s preposterous,” said Mr. Laufman, all lawyered up and ready to draw a number and take a seat for his own grand jury testimony. (Note: Mr. Laufman was also deeply involved in the Brett Kavanaugh fiasco as lawyer to Christine Blasey Ford’s BFF, former FBI agent Monica McLean.)

Over in the locked ward of CNN, Andy Cooper and Jeff Toobin attempted to digest the criminal investigation news as if someone had ordered in a platter of shit sandwiches for the green room just before air-time. Toobin pretended to not know exactly who the mysterious Joseph Mifsud was, and struggled to even pronounce his name: “…Mifsood? Misfood…? You mean the Italian professor?” No Jeff, the guy employed by several “friendly” foreign intelligence agencies, and the CIA, to sandbag Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos, and failed. I guess when you’re at the beating heart of TV news, you don’t have to actually follow any of the stories reported outside your range of thought and experience.

Next Andy hauled onscreen former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper (now a paid CNN “contributor”) to finesse a distinction between the “overall investigation of the Russian interference” and “the counterintelligence investigation that was launched by the FBI.” Consider that Mr. Clapper was right in the middle between the CIA and the FBI. Since he is known to be a friend of Mr. Comey’s and a not-friend of Mr. Brennan’s one can easily see which way Mr. Clapper is tilting. One can also see the circular firing squad that this is a setup for. And, of course, Mr. Clapper himself will be a subject in Mr. Durham’s criminal case proceedings. I predict October will be the last month that Mr. Clapper draws a CNN paycheck — as he hunkers down with his attorneys awaiting the subpoena with his name on it.

The New York Times story on this turn of events Friday morning is a lame attempt to rescue former FBI Director Jim Comey by pinning the blame for RussiaGate on the CIA, shoving CIA John Brennan under the bus. The Times report says: “Mr. Durham has also asked whether C.I.A. officials might have somehow tricked the F.B.I. into opening the Russia investigation.” There’s the next narrative for you. Expect to hear this incessantly well into 2020: “We wuz tricked!”

I wonder if there is any way to hold the errand boys-and-girls in the news media accountable for their roles as handmaidens in what will be eventually known as a seditious coup to overthrow a president. We do enjoy freedom of the press in this land, but I can see how these birds merit charges as unindicted co-conspirators in the affair. One wonders if the various boards of directors of the newspaper and cable news outfits might seek to salvage their self-respect by firing the executives who allowed it to happen. If anything might be salutary in the outcome of this hot mess, it would be a return to respectability of the news media.

As for impeachment, ringmaster Rep. Adam Schiff is surely steaming straight into his own historic Joe McCarthy moment when somebody of incontestable standing denounces him as a fraud and a scoundrel… and the mysterious workings of nonlinear behavior tips the political mob past a criticality threshold, shifting the weight of consensus out of darkness and madness. It has happened before in history. Two centuries before Joe McCarthy, the French national assembly suddenly turned on the Jacobins Robespierre and St. Just after their orgy of beheading 17,000 enemies. The two were quickly dispatched themselves to the awe of their beloved guillotine and the Jacobin faction was not heard of again —until recently in America, where it first infected the Universities and then sickened the polity at large almost unto death.


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  1. Nightowl October 25, 2019 at 10:03 am #

    The Paper of Refuse has outdone itself these past few weeks. The latest Schenkelklopfer being that the FBI could have been tricked.

    I realize half their audience is about as savvy as a loaf of bread and did not read the Strozck-Page texts, but, should any of them get curious, they could debunk the propaganda for themselves in about 10 mins.

    • Plennie_Wingo October 25, 2019 at 10:14 am #

      Ah, but you are way above that teeming mass aren’t you. You’re smart!

    • Neon Vincent October 25, 2019 at 10:47 am #

      I may have been the best student in my first year German class, but I still had to look up Schenkelklopfer. “Knee-slapper” — that’s an expression that loses nothing in translation! As for the paper of record’s audience, remember that according to the U.S. version of “Who reads the papers” from “Yes, Prime Minister,” “The New York Times is read by the people who think they ought to run the country.” That “half their audience is about as savvy as a loaf of bread” is not necessarily mutually exclusive!

      Speaking of the news media, I recall suggesting to our host that he go after the news media as well as the Democrats a few months ago. I’m glad to see that he did in today’s essay. Maybe he should heckle the late-night comedians as well. The most recent example I captured was Samantha Bee explaining how to get away with election interference. Maybe he can get second laughs out of their jokes.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 25, 2019 at 1:14 pm #

        I have mentioned this before, Vince, but Rush Limbaugh has said something I actually agree with him on.
        He says he used to the the media was an arm of the Democrats, but now he knows it is the other way around.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 25, 2019 at 1:27 pm #

          I was just thinking about that too. The Media creates Societal Reality. Any politicians who goes against that is destroyed. So – they don’t. They serve it in order to get in and stay in. It’s owned by Six Companies of very similar people in terms of their ethnicity and socioeconomic background.

          Needless to say, it should have all been broken up by Anti-Trust Laws generations ago.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 25, 2019 at 1:36 pm #

            Silly me, I had very little hopes of an Obama administration, but I really did expect him to attempt to correct that situation.

          • Nightowl October 25, 2019 at 3:45 pm #

            The Internet has been the game changer, which is why they are working so hard to ensure that it is tightly controlled.

            Trump’s use of Twitter was strategically brilliant.

        • Tate October 25, 2019 at 2:32 pm #

          Joe McCarthy was actually right about communist subversion in America. Maybe he had a drinking problem but who wouldn’t with the constant slanders & lies told about them by the media.

          • wolfbay October 25, 2019 at 7:29 pm #

            After the fall of the USSR documents were released that proved that our government was indeed infiltrated with communist agents. The sad part was that although McCarthy dragged many people before his committee and ruined many lives he only correctly identified one actual agent.

          • Tate October 26, 2019 at 12:50 pm #

            Are you unaware that today many lives are being ruined because they wish to live in a stable cohesive society, who don’t want this so-called social “progress” & have the temerity to speak out about it?

            Or are you one of these hypocrites who think it’s totally moral to dox those you disagree with but not when the shoe is on the other foot?

  2. venuspluto67 October 25, 2019 at 10:06 am #

    I have to admit, until this NYT story, I really did think that your almost weekly talk of the RussiaGate investigators being investigated themselves was just wishful thinking on your part perhaps from reading too many article on ZeroHedge.com! :-0

    • Beryl of Oyl October 25, 2019 at 1:15 pm #

      I keep thinking that Mr. Kunstler is being naive, and I keep being wrong.

  3. Ishabaka October 25, 2019 at 10:08 am #

    National Public Radio framing the criminal investigation as an investigation of “conspiracy theories” and William Barr as “doing President Trump’s dirty work” this morning.

    • venuspluto67 October 25, 2019 at 10:10 am #

      {/shrugs} Well, yeah, what do you expect, at this point?

    • elysianfield October 25, 2019 at 11:56 am #

      NPR?

      That which they opine can be safely dismissed…totally.

  4. Nightowl October 25, 2019 at 10:18 am #

    Also worth mentioning: Sidney Powell is asking for Flynn’s case to be dismissed, as there is incontrivertible evidence that the FBI altered the 302 form from his interview and fabricated evidence.

    More news you won’t get from NYT and co. until everything blows up in their seditious faces.

    twitter.com/SidneyPowell1

  5. James Kuehl October 25, 2019 at 10:24 am #

    What a murky mess. JHK has a powerful fog light. Here’s a thought: Trump might be inadvertently saving our sorry selves. The US is five percent of the world’s population using a quarter of it’s energy. How long can this go on? Maybe the ineptitude of the current power structure brings the overheated machinery to a wheezing, sputtering stop rather than blowing us all to bits.

    • elysianfield October 25, 2019 at 11:57 am #

      “The US is five percent of the world’s population using a quarter of it’s energy. How long can this go on,,,?

      James,
      Into perpetuity, God willing.

      It is not a moral issue.

      • Neon Vincent October 25, 2019 at 1:04 pm #

        “‘The US is five percent of the world’s population using a quarter of it’s energy. How long can this go on…?’…Into perpetuity, God willing.”

        It’s not going on as I type this. The USA has 4.27% of the world’s population, which rounds down to 4%, and used 17% of the world’s primary energy production in 2016. That’s not because Americans are using less energy overall or per capita but because countries like China, India, and South Korea are using more. Meanwhile, the population of the rest of the planet continues to increase while our growth is slowing down. The result is that we are no longer using five times our share of the world’s energy but only four times. Progress!

        • BackRowHeckler October 25, 2019 at 2:35 pm #

          So, it’s there for the taking. We’re probably more productive than anywhere else in the world, too.

          • GreenAlba October 25, 2019 at 6:57 pm #

            You’re sixth, brh, after Luxembourg, Norway, Belgium, Switzerland, Denmark and Iceland. But the UK isn’t even in the top 15 so you’re not bad.

            collectivehub.com/2018/02/15-of-the-worlds-most-productive-countries/

            But you still produce 50% of the world’s solid waste, which isn’t that admirable for a country that has less than 5% of the world’s population. Maybe you need to clean your room. 🙂

          • hmuller October 25, 2019 at 11:56 pm #

            Admittedly, we eat a lot; we poop a lot. Is that what you meant by solid waste, GA?

          • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 5:18 am #

            No.

      • James Kuehl October 25, 2019 at 3:27 pm #

        I disagree. We are in a closed system and have exceeded the planet’s carrying capacity for food and energy production. It is amoral to disregard the growing needs of of our fellow human beings in favor of perpetuating our excessive level of consumption

        • Tate October 25, 2019 at 4:07 pm #

          False dichotomy. We can reduce our levels of consumption at the same time asking them to reduce their rates of growth.

          • James Kuehl October 25, 2019 at 4:45 pm #

            My comment did not address any imperative to reduce consumption. In our closed system the exhaustion of resources is inevitable. I dispute the claim that there is no moral issue in failing to fairly distribute what remains.

          • Tate October 25, 2019 at 9:30 pm #

            How do you know how much “remains?”

          • RIB October 26, 2019 at 11:37 am #

            “at the same time asking them to reduce their rate of growth.” Fat fu!@#$% they’ll listen

          • Tate October 26, 2019 at 12:54 pm #

            “at the same time asking them to reduce their rate of growth.” Fat fu!@#$% they’ll listen

            LOL, agreed, but try telling that to James Kuehl, who seems to think we can “fairly distribute what remains.” Whatever that means.

        • elysianfield October 25, 2019 at 5:39 pm #

          “It is amoral to disregard the growing needs of our fellow human beings”

          James,
          It is a zero-sum option. Bad things happen…babies are born with crooked backs. The fact that you deprive yourself of the best existence possible “for the benefit of mankind” would have NO effect (zero, zilch, nada) effect on the lives of the less fortunate in bum fuck Egypt. You won the lottery…they lost.

          • James Kuehl October 26, 2019 at 5:57 am #

            I fear we fall far short of the levels of altruism and community cooperation necessary to avoid a decent into savagery as we manage the ongoing collapse of our agricultural, industrial, and financial systems.

          • elysianfield October 26, 2019 at 12:12 pm #

            “I fear we fall far short of the levels of altruism and community cooperation”

            James,
            On this we can agree. There are none among us that would not wish a better life for those less fortunate…however, there are no efficient means to realize that goal…never has been in human history…

            Except for communism, of course….

        • benr October 27, 2019 at 10:21 am #

          If you believe one part of the problem is carbon dioxide be part of the solution and either stop breathing or begin planting trees and plants to off set your own addition to the problem.

          See and there in is the actual problem people want everyone else to make the sacrifice of throwing granny off the train so they can continue to exist exactly as they are.

          Talk, talk, talk, and what comes from all the talking?
          Taxes, carbon credit scams and some getting rich while the rest of us live in a new form of cave and eat grass.

    • tasmansee October 26, 2019 at 1:21 am #

      Here’s an appropriate line from the 1981 Kasdan film, “Body Heat”. The local District Attorney, Pete Lowenstein, advised his friend and inept legal adversary, Ned Racine, “You know, Ned, I think I’ve underestimated you. I don’t know what took me so long. You’ve started using your incompetence as a weapon.” It happens frequently most organisations – I’m always amazed that most organisations survive in spite of their members.

  6. BackRowHeckler October 25, 2019 at 10:26 am #

    Jim, how does what you are writing about above stack up with the current impeachment investigations and secret hearings run by Gerald Nadler and Adam Schiff in Congress? It seems like we have a situation where 1/2 of the govt is investigating the other 1/2, and vice versa.

    Brh

    • Nightowl October 25, 2019 at 10:31 am #

      No one is investigating anything in the Capitol basement; the clown posse is convening to map out the hail-mary phase of The Insurance Policy.

    • JohnAZ October 25, 2019 at 10:44 am #

      This is not an impeachment. That is why Schiff is getting away with this. This is a smear campaign, led by the House leaders, and legitimized by the MSM. That is why the public keeps polling the way it is, folks are reacting to what they read and watch from a horribly biased media. The greatest frame attempt since Bill Clinton’s sex life. Yes, both sides are responsible. This is an internal Deep State squabble, to see who is going to run the family business.

      Impeachment was set up to be based on a judicial process, high crimes and misdemeanors, and removal based on a trial under Constitutional rule of law. Schiff’s investigation and systemic leaking is a fricking joke. Totally political, as GOP input is not even allowed. It is only being given credibility by the idiots in the media. It would end tomorrow if the Media just stopped covering it.

      You know who knows this more than anyone else? Nancy Pelosi. It is the reason why she cannot let this go to a vote, too much risk of exposure of what an idiotic pair that Schiff and Nadler are. I do not think she is really willing to risk losing the House and her position over such a futile process.

      Watched Juan Williams this AM talking about the impeachment and the investigation shifting to criminal mode. What a mealy mouthed Democratic apologist!

      • venuspluto67 October 25, 2019 at 10:53 am #

        And it’s really sad-making to witness people on Facebook who are smart enough to know better guzzling down this Kool-Aid as if it were nectar from Olympus-On-High. 🙁

        • CancelMyCard October 25, 2019 at 11:39 am #

          “Totally political, as GOP input is not even allowed.”

          Total Bullshit.

          There are 47 Republicans working with Democrats on the investigation.

          And tell me this . . . Exactly how long did Ken Star hold secret investigations on Bill Clinton before submitting his report before the impeachment??? Ummm, like 2 and 1/2 years, wasn’t it?

          And now that the shoe is on the other foot, the Republicans are squealing like little piggies.

          • Uncle Bob October 25, 2019 at 8:00 pm #

            You’re the one who is full of donkey-doo. The Dems pick the “witnesses” and ask the questions. The Republicans, when they’re even allowed in the room, have to sit there and watch the two obviously-not-observant Jewish chairmen (Schitt Nadless) conduct their dog-and-pony show. No documents can leave the star chamber, recordings are not alloed, and Democrat staffers apparently get to boss around elected Republican convressmen. Why? Because people like you are so bitter about both Bubba’s impeachment and his self-aggrandizing wife’s loss that you’ll destroy the country to get your way — after all, the Democrats are the mature, responsible people, while Trump backers are hillbillies and other deplorable, uncouth, ill-educated people, right?

      • hmuller October 25, 2019 at 2:06 pm #

        If I were Trump, next time I met with Nancy Pelosi I would put a big wad of bubblegum in her hair. That way she would finally have something legitimate to whine about to the presstitues.

        Then I would defiantly tweet: “Add that to your Articles of Impeachment, Mother****ers!”.

  7. JohnAZ October 25, 2019 at 10:29 am #

    Elizabeth Warren is losing credibility over her inability to define where the bucks are going to come from to fund her “new” program

    She is a Liberal Democrat. There is no responsibility to balance the books. Spend for votes is their credo.

    If the last fifty years is an indicator, they are winning.

    • Plennie_Wingo October 25, 2019 at 10:30 am #

      I guess those nasty and inconvenient details about what has happened to the federal debt under the Orange Monster have escaped your keen eye?

      • JohnAZ October 25, 2019 at 10:50 am #

        Get over your hate. Trump’s debt contribution was built in long before he showed up. Blaming him for the interest payment increases freezing the annual outlay on debt that accumulated prior to him is a moot point. The tax cut increased the debt load a smidge but the trillion dollar a year debt load was reached under Obama who managed to increase the debt by $10 trillion, half of today’s amount.

        When you live in a glass house, do not throw stones.

    • draupnir October 25, 2019 at 2:27 pm #

      However, it sounds like Tulsi Gabbard is seriously considering a 3rd party run, which could conceivably put paid to any hope the Democrats might have of getting their woman into the oval office.

      • abbybwood October 26, 2019 at 11:15 pm #

        Bullshit.

        Gabbard just dropped her run for re-election for Congress so she can focus on cleaning up her own party and the DNC.

        Prove to us by anything she has said that she is considering a third party run.

        You cannot.

    • benr October 27, 2019 at 10:23 am #

      When did little lizzie big chief forked tongue ever have credibility?

  8. Rodster October 25, 2019 at 10:31 am #

    And yet I don’t see anything ever happening. There won’t be any jail time for any of these shady characters. Why? Because the USSA has been for a long, long time a “highly corrupt” Banana Republic.

    The Deep State runs the Gov’t and won’t allow a bad outcome. Yes it’s idiotic that anyone would buy into the RussiaGate story but as the saying goes, “if you repeat a lie often enough and make the lie even bigger people will eventually believe it”.

    America is made up of clueless idiots who are too self absorbed while they are binging on Netflix shows to even notice or care.

    That’s the sad reality of America today and it has been that way for at least the last 30+ years. The Gov’t has purposely made the citizenry too stupid and apathetic to even notice or care.

    • JohnAZ October 25, 2019 at 10:58 am #

      Yup, well said.

      The Deep State IS the ultimate bad outcome.

      They are not clueless idiots. Idiots, yes, but not clueless.

      Remember, most politicians are there because of their power of schmooze, they are career failures.

      When the Feds got control of the educational process, stupidification was built in by a group of losers that could not compete and knew they had to make a public that could not see through their stupidity.

      Think about this. These folks in our government and their Deep State supporters are “the best there is” to make our collective decisions for us? Holy s—t, no wonder we are where we are.

      • Ron Anselmo October 25, 2019 at 11:18 am #

        Yes. Ho Lee Fuk. Som Ting Wong.

        • GreenAlba October 25, 2019 at 12:35 pm #

          Perhaps the enquiry will be supervised by Hoo Flung Dung.

          • JohnAZ October 25, 2019 at 12:42 pm #

            You take it lightly.

            This is a contest, here in America, of who is in charge, the State, or the people the State is supposed to serve.

            It is a challenge against everything the Founding Fathers sought for this country.

            It is an invasion by foreign socialistic forces into American republicanism.

            With a small r as the GOP is part of it.

          • GreenAlba October 25, 2019 at 1:12 pm #

            Not at all, JohnAZ, but I can’t resist a pun. Especially a very appropriate one. I thought it was quite apt in the circumstances and have never approved the use of spurious dung flinging to unseat your president, whatever I might think of him personally.

            I’ve made it quite clear that, barring genuine nefarious behaviour in office he should be unseated by nothing other than the ballot box. I have said this several times – I just stay out of the issue by and large, since it isn’t mine, so there’s no reason why you’d remember.

          • JohnAZ October 25, 2019 at 2:07 pm #

            It was a good pun.

            I just get upset by the passing off that the deniers do relative to what is really going on. It is very serious business what is going on.

            Good pun, I did chuckle.

          • capt spaulding October 25, 2019 at 8:02 pm #

            The people in charge are the corporations and the billionaires, not the State OR the people. Once people figure that out, maybe we can get somewhere.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 25, 2019 at 5:01 pm #

          Well said, Alba. I assume you feel the same about Mr Bonjangles.

        • elysianfield October 25, 2019 at 5:42 pm #

          So sayeth Som Yung Gy

          • capt spaulding October 25, 2019 at 8:05 pm #

            All I know is, two Wongs don’t make a white.

      • venuspluto67 October 25, 2019 at 12:48 pm #

        This country’s managerial class is to a very large extent comprised of failures and incompetents. Why should our political class be any different, especially since a big part of their job description is to represent the interests of the managerial class?

    • abbybwood October 27, 2019 at 12:26 am #

      I think there is a very good possibility that Barr and Durham have decided it’s time to clean house and they have the hard evidence to do so.

      Never mind Trump. This is about the most powerful people holding trusted positions of leadership appearing to have made the biggest mistake of their lives: trying to rig an election for “the Queen of all warmongers” and when that failed trying to use their insurance policy to deep-six a duly elected president as revenge for “their Queen”.

      Not just the American people, but those all over the world need to see Justice work in the United States, especially against the most corrupt scoundrels at the highest levels of our government.

      Still have that Dom chilling in hopes that Barr and Durham succeed in their mission.

      I think this time next month Clapper and Brennan’s positions as paid pundits on the MSM will be O-V-E-R.

      As I am sipping my Dom I will be watching Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews and Co. doing their bowed head mea culpas. (And I haven’t watched any of these frauds since election night 2016.

  9. malthuss October 25, 2019 at 10:46 am #

    Rummors about Schiff, pedo gate, murder at Standard Hotel.
    Trump tweets ‘liddle’ several times.
    Schiff had a [ get this] a baby massage charity.

    The rabbit hole goes real deep on this one.

    • abbybwood October 27, 2019 at 12:46 am #

      Once Barr completes his Investigation of the coup plotters, it would be the cherry on the Justice Sundae to get all the details on the Epstein investigation out in the open including what exactly happened in that jail where Epstein was found dead, between the hours of 8pm the night before up until they found him and he was transported out at about 6 am the next morning.

      Then reveal opinions on ALL the autopsies with discrepancies and from there arrest Ghislaine Maxwell (she is probably hiding out in Israel with her Mossad handlers) plus reveal ALL the names of the men AND women who had any hand in procuring and statutorily raping every underage girl who will testify.

      The world-wide pedophile scandal needs to be busted with those involved arrested, indicted and sent to prison for their heinous crimes against children.

      It is way past time to go after ALL these rich scumbags including Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz.

      I found it interesting when the director of “Eyes Wide Shut”, Stanley Kubrick, said in an interview just before he died, “The whole world is run by pedophiles!”

  10. malthuss October 25, 2019 at 10:46 am #

    oops…Rumors.

  11. volodya October 25, 2019 at 10:50 am #

    I hope I’m just seeing things, maybe like some PTSD flashback, but this all reminds of the near past when the Mueller investigation was meandering into nowhere. Remember? At the time, according to the Establishment Pundit Class that was making such a good living out of deploring Trump, bombshell revelations were dropping daily, the walls were closing in, every damn week we’d reached a turning point, and the end was near. And Trump was at the end of his rope, he really was, and indictments were nigh. 

    And what came out of it? The ruin of Mike Flynn, and a Manafort here and a Papodopolous there. What did all this prove? Nothing, not collusion, nor a bought and paid for election, not remotely a corruption of American democracy by dastardly foreigners. No, if you want to sniff out electoral malfeasance, look to corporate and oligarch money right under your nose. 

    I hope all that doesn’t happen again, another descent into silliness. I say silliness because the word “silly” has the right connotation, without the grandiosity of the term “madness”. 

    No, the perps in that two year excursion into unreality were ridiculous, and sloppy, without the intellectual audacity, nor the depths of lunacy, of a Hitler or a Stalin or a Mao. This wasn’t a “night of the long knives” a la 1934 with a veneer of legality and due process, this was a go nowhere and accomplish nothing that cost 40 million and wasted two years.

    Nope, they weren’t “mad”. the Muellers and Comeys and Brennans were pedestrian, showing neither inspiration nor creativity nor guts, nothing like that shown when the two Kennedy bros got shot for the temerity of thinking they had a place in the corridors of power. 

    If there was anything world-class it was incompetence, a plethora of richly funded and exorbitantly manned governmental organizations dedicated to the overthrow of Trump, failing and falling most ignominiously on their faces.

    So, please, not again. I implore the Barrs and Durhams to earn their pay and do a proper job of things this time. If this is meant as a “get even”, then get even. Do it up right. If you mean to abuse power then abuse it. If you mean to scare the bejeesus out of those plotting sedition, then bare your teeth. If you mean to inflict ruin, then inflict it. Impress us with your ferocity, not like those boneless, directionless nitwits of that lamentable Mueller era. Do it right or don’t even start.

    • hmuller October 25, 2019 at 11:03 am #

      Shortly after Corazon Aquino came to power in the Philippines in 1986, there was a military led coup against her which failed. She pardoned those involved. A couple months later they tried to oust her again. She pardoned them again. This went on about 6 times. Finally, she learned her lesson: if the traitors have nothing to fear, they will keep trying.

      AG Barr, go and bust them up!

      • volodya October 25, 2019 at 11:14 am #

        Good point, that if they have nothing to fear they will try again. High time somebody reined in these rogue, answerable-unto-themselves organizations. Way too big for their britches.

    • JohnAZ October 25, 2019 at 11:03 am #

      By the fact that Durham’s investigative group is bi-partisan, that bodes for more credibility compared to the kangaroo court Mueller put together.

      Why couldn’t they get Trump?

      Because it was a lie! Trump with his NY street smarts and group of lawyers to go along with it, cannot compete with this gang of criminals in DC.

      Or can he?

      • volodya October 25, 2019 at 11:10 am #

        Because it was a lie? Of course it was a lie. But here we have multi-billion dollar governmental organizations whose raison d’etre is lies, whose expertise and resources would ostensibly be more than enough to create a skein of lies and manufactured evidence to bounce someone like Trump, who has personal resources but nowhere near what the government has.

        If the network of agencies like the CIA and FBI, with their manpower and money and knowledge, can’t do better than this, then why are they there? I’m only being partially sarcastic.

        • JohnAZ October 25, 2019 at 12:29 pm #

          Easy, V.

          As the Deep State has deepened over the past 50 years, the FBI and CIA have become the enforcers for the manipulation by the leaders of the Deep State. HRC immediately comes to mind. The result of the Durham investigation may be so damning that the Deep State will stop at nothing to halt it. I would say that like the Kennedys, Barr, Durham and maybe Trump himself is in danger.

          Let us see what reaction the Horowitz report gets.

          • volodya October 25, 2019 at 12:43 pm #

            My problem with these guys is two-fold

            1) that even with all the government money they get, they’re so lousy at the game of deception that they couldn’t bounce Trump.

            2) if they couldn’t get rid of Trump, even with decades of institutional knowledge (supposedly) of dirty tricks, what good are they against foreign adversaries?

            Got to tell you, their sorry performance against Trump so far does not inspire confidence. If the result of the Durham investigation is damning, are we going to see even more Deep State and intel agency incompetence in reaction?

            As I said in previous posts, foreign enemies are watching and taking the measure of these guys.

          • JohnAZ October 25, 2019 at 1:06 pm #

            V

            Their sorry performance

            One thing to consider, what if Trump did absolutely nothing wrong?

            What if the FBI situation is as it seems to be, a framing of the President by the Deep State leaders.

            And it failed due to just simply, it was a lie.

          • JohnAZ October 25, 2019 at 1:07 pm #

            And you are spot on, the foreign powers may be part of it!

          • messianicdruid October 25, 2019 at 2:08 pm #

            “And you are spot on, the foreign powers may be part of it!”

            Not maybe, are;

            “…both Occhionero and his sister were targeted in the EyePyramid investigation – precisely because Occhionero has more right-leaning sensibilities, as well as for his technical capabilities – and because his sister Francesca has dual citizenship with both the USA and Italy. Planting the emails on Occhionero’s server, and then tying the Occhionero’s to Trump (with plenty of lies and media help) should have been easy. But, through a series of errors which, as far as I can tell, can only be explained by serial incompetence, the Italian Deep State failed in this effort.”

            neonrevolt.com/2019/10/18/sounding-the-alarm-for-occhionero-stonewalled-by-the-us-embassy-in-rome-sp…

          • Nightowl October 25, 2019 at 3:28 pm #

            Following Barr’s visit to Italy, Conte fired top officials at Italian intel on Wednesday. Rensi was corrupt and working with the coup plotters.

            The Brits and Australians will have housecleaning to do, too.

          • Nightowl October 25, 2019 at 3:56 pm #

            They couldn’t get Trump because Trump knew what was going down and surrounded himself with the intel and military folk who told him.

            Who is Admiral Mike Rogers for 500, Alex?

          • benr October 27, 2019 at 10:37 am #

            @volodya

            Par for the course.
            Legacy Ashes -Tim Weiner

            Company Man

            Both cover the cia and all it’s glorious failures.

            The only thing I have read on the fbi is enemies a history of the fbi it was an ok read but pretty short on actual details.

    • abbybwood October 28, 2019 at 12:30 am #

      This is all I want for Christmas:

      Hillary, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Stzrok, Page, McCabe, Bruce and Nellie Ohr and probably about thirty others’ mugshots, in handcuffs, perp-walked and no bail allowed because they would all be flight risks (especially Comey who is already blabbing about moving to New Zealand If Trump wins re-election).

      I want to see them ALL in the dock.

      And I REALLY can’t wait to hear the MSM/CIA trying to spin!!! it all.

      Forget Christmas! I will be happy to see this all go down for Thanksgiving!

  12. hugho October 25, 2019 at 11:25 am #

    Thanks Jim for your diligent and hard work but you know what? I am getting real tired of this subject and I hope you will move on to something else. yawn.

    Then you have no sense of what is important in this nation. Go ahead and move on.
    I suggest you try the Slate website. You’ll be well-entertained there.
    –JHK Admin

    • DJL October 25, 2019 at 1:06 pm #

      Same. This is all deeply tedious as it moves at a slower crawl than the long emergency. I decided I didn’t care one wit about politics back in 2015 and nothing has convinced me to change my mind since then. It is all sound and fury signifying nothing. Back then I did make the mistake of thinking surely folks could find other things to dissect/obsess over/worship but I was wrong. Makes one wish for something really “yuge” to happen just to finally push us all over the edge and speed this thing up!
      Happy Friday.

      DJL– Sorry events don’t move fast enough for you and that you don’t care for politics.
      That’s what is on the menu here. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. — JHK Admin

      • hmuller October 25, 2019 at 4:50 pm #

        Someone’s in a mood today.

  13. Luhrenloup October 25, 2019 at 11:34 am #

    I have to ask, as we should all ask, why has the NYTimes, the newspaper of record, considered the voice of America throughout the world, taken this mendacious road? They, who were always so timid about committing themselves to anything that shone the government in a bad light (think Watergate)? What’s happening here? Why are they risking their 168 year dominance in the field? Is Trump such a threat to the country, they will willingly sacrifice their reputable standing to oust him? I don’t see that.
    The political game is not what’s happening. There is much more at stake than the impeachment imbroglio.

    • JohnAZ October 25, 2019 at 12:36 pm #

      Think Epstein! Think drugs! Think human trafficking! Think globalism! Think Carlos Slim, CO-owner of the NYT.

      Think! If you want to control a populace, control the press. The people think what they read.

      That is why the polls are so bogus. Want to know what the polls say in NY or Washington? Read the NYT or the Post two days prior.

      The free press is a right in the country! But with rights comes responsibility. To tell the truth is the press’ responsibility!

      And they have failed,

      Miserably.

    • Beryl of Oyl October 25, 2019 at 1:23 pm #

      It has a lot to do with this guy, Carlos Slim:
      realclearmarkets.com/articles/2013/03/12/for_155m_did_carlos_slim_buy_silence_from_the_times_100195.…

      • abbybwood October 28, 2019 at 12:57 am #

        I think The New York Times recently did a story about how the Mexican government decided they had better release various drug cartel leaders from prison (never mind El Chapo) because too many people were being murdered in retaliation.

        Would be curious to know what your take is regarding how Carlos Slim would want THAT story to be told?

    • Janos Skorenzy October 25, 2019 at 1:39 pm #

      Because the rest of the media are owned by their friends who think the same way. There is no competition amongst such friends. That would be a sin. And yes, they are far smarter than ordinary Americans who believe in such ruinous competition.

      One time Ted Turner tried to buy a network. He was on board with their world view almost completely. Yet they still saw him as a loose cannon and bid him out. Why not if they can? Why let any goy in if you don’t have to?

    • Nightowl October 25, 2019 at 3:32 pm #

      I don’t know that the NYT was ever trustworthy in my lifetime. Like WaPo and others, they never met a war they didn’t like, be it under Bush or Obama.

      MSM outlets are used to feed the populace narratives from the elites and to make money. It’s corporate news for crying out loud. They don’t do things out of benevolence or a higher calling.

      This has been the case for decades. Research propaganda in America, starting with Edward Bernays.

    • Epicur October 25, 2019 at 8:51 pm #

      ” There is much more at stake than the impeachment imbroglio.”

      You bet your sweet ass there is more. We are in the last days of the Republic and they want control of what comes next – the Emergency.

    • Luhrenloup October 26, 2019 at 1:31 pm #

      The NYT, so heavily invested in destroying trump, on a daily basis, no matter what Trump does or doesn’t do, it’s excoriated. The odds pretty much favor his winning the coming election too. The Times seeing itself as the voice of American Government, after 168 years, will not go quietly into the good night. Emotions have been raised to such a fever pitch at this point that whoever wins this epic battle has to destroy the other. It will take a small (or even big) miracle for Trump to come out of this alive.

      Have you seen how they went about framing Michael Flynn?
      zerohedge.com/political/fbi-entrapped-flynn-manipulated-evidence-clapper-allegedly-issued-kill-shot-…

      • abbybwood October 28, 2019 at 1:03 am #

        Flynn was entrapped for sure.

        But, as the saying goes, “Never give a sucker an even break.”

        Lesson? NEVER talk to the FBI without your lawyer present. There is no such thing as having “just a chat or friendly conversation” with these corrupt jackals.

        Well, unless you happen to be Hillary Clinton.

  14. BackRowHeckler October 25, 2019 at 12:42 pm #

    Well, its Climate Extinction Friday but nobody showed up for my rally in Podunktown; I have to assume CFNers don’t take extinction seriously and don’t really believe we have only ’12 more years.’

    So I waited at Liz’s Village Store — which was marked for destruction — for about an hour, finally gave up, filled my truck with gas, went inside, had a few cups of joe and one of those excellent egg, cheese and bacon breakfast sandwiches Liz is famous for. Then, under a blue sky, warm autumn sun, and billowy cumulus clouds, commenced raking leaves the stately oaks and handsome maples are shedding right about now. Extinction will have to wait.

    Brh

    • JohnAZ October 25, 2019 at 12:44 pm #

      Sweet!

    • volodya October 25, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

      The plan was to rake leaves at my mother’s place but it was too windy. Ended up defrosting her freezer, picking up around my dad’s and grandparents’ grave, changing summer tires for snow tires.

      As you say Extinction will have to wait. There was a Japanese climate scientist that said that current climate models are insufficient for making public policy. Still need a lot of work IOW. Of course this sets off denunciations by the bushel. This is an issue of tribal affiliation and war-drums and has long been this way. Not about science. Don’t look for objective-dispassionate study here.

      • elysianfield October 25, 2019 at 5:46 pm #

        ” a Japanese climate scientist that said that current climate models are insufficient for making public policy….”

        Volodya.

        Ah So! Alba take note.

      • GreenAlba October 25, 2019 at 7:12 pm #

        “a Japanese climate scientist”? One?

        Here’s the thing, though. Volodya wants to think the issue isn’t about science – it’s about anything but science. No, really, this is what he wants to believe. And that’s fine – Volodya can think what suits his overall narrative.

        But what I can’t figure out is how the climate scientists who worked for Exxon in the 80s came up with the same results as the scientists who’ve been working for universities and institutes of science worldwide ever since. So Exxon had to hide them.

        According to the narrative, the university scientists are chasing grants and the Exxon scientists would know what side their bread was buttered on. But, weirdly – really weirdly – they both came up with the same results.

        Weird, I tell you, weird…

        But there’s one scientist in Japan who says it ain’t good enough, so, y’know…

        • BackRowHeckler October 25, 2019 at 7:56 pm #

          Exxon handles about 3 million barrels of oil per day.

          World demand right now is 101 million barrels per day.

          The Guardian is going on right now about divestment in oil companies and trying to put them out of business. Even if they could cripple the western oil companies, state owned producers in Saudi Arabia and Russia would step in to fill the gap. All divestment would do is make us more dependent on foreign producers.

          Brh

          • GreenAlba October 25, 2019 at 8:52 pm #

            Fascinating, brh, but nothing whatever to do with my point. I am not responsible for what goes on in the Graun offices. Why don’t you speak to them? Or write in the Comment is Free section? See how you manage in a comment section that’s outside your comfort zone, as I have.

            But in the meantime, if you have an explanation for the enigma I just pointed out above, please feel free.

    • GreenAlba October 25, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

      “had a few cups of joe and one of those excellent egg, cheese and bacon breakfast sandwiches”

      That’s the spirit, brh, let coronary heart disease get you first and go out on your own clock. 🙂

      • Beryl of Oyl October 25, 2019 at 1:42 pm #

        I eat a high fat diet.
        Dr. Atkins was right.

        • Nightowl October 25, 2019 at 3:35 pm #

          Indeed. Recent studies show it, too. The food pyramid is a sham. I was always fit but over the years gained weight by focusing more on carbs and veggies, thinking fat was bad.

          I moved back to a diet consisting largely of meat (and some veggies); the pounds were gone within a matter of weeks and I am stronger than I have ever been. I also feel fantastic.

          Carbs get turned into sugar. And sugar is evil.

          • hmuller October 25, 2019 at 4:37 pm #

            If Tulsi, a Hindu, gets elected can we expect beef to be heavily taxed?

          • Nightowl October 25, 2019 at 6:08 pm #

            I don’t know, but there is talk of it here in Germany. I may have mentioned that I work for a blue chip firm and am therefore regularly subjected to all of the latest globalist fads.

            Outside forces badly want management to eliminate meat in the cafeteria, but no one is having it.

            Last week, it seems the SJWs in charge of handling office initiatives paid a couple of weirdos to a hand out their “green” insect burgers.

            Let’s just say a lot of food was thrown out that day, and the Hausmeister was spotted at the Doener shop across the street.

          • GreenAlba October 25, 2019 at 6:17 pm #

            OK, I guess it’s bye bye Amazon rainforest then.

            Must keep that soya coming for the people who need most of their greens to be processed through a cow. Just as well the rest of the world isn’t catching up with the meat thing – oh, wait…

          • GreenAlba October 25, 2019 at 6:18 pm #

            Nightowl

            “I may have mentioned that I work for a blue chip firm and am therefore regularly subjected to all of the latest globalist fads.”

            Yes, you did. It must be tough. Chin up… 🙂

          • hmuller October 26, 2019 at 12:11 am #

            They are trying to cram insect burgers down our throats and that’s fine by you, GA!? I hope you’re forced to eat that crap since you believe all the globalist bullshit. Oh my God, the Amazon rain-forest will die if I eat a burger. Please!.(Hint: my burger and I aren’t destroying the environment; the elitists are. And if you don’t know about geo-engineering, you are in the dark)

            A world geared towards scarcity is one way the few control the many. They control our necessities; so we dance like monkeys for crumbs and believe all the brainwashing propaganda they beam at us. I know, I know, I’m just bat shit crazy for thinking such thoughts.

          • hmuller October 26, 2019 at 12:15 am #

            Forgive me if I sound angry. But I hate to see people lie down and spread their legs like $2 whores, so they can be raped by those bastards!

          • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 6:00 am #

            Sorry, hm, but did you just describe me there as spreading my legs like a $2 whore?

            “They are trying to cram insect burgers down our throats and that’s fine by you, GA!? I hope you’re forced to eat that crap since you believe all the globalist bullshit.”

            Nobody’s forcing insect burgers down my throat, just because I’ve seen them on TV. I have no intention of ever eating insect burgers, although I recognise that my reasons for not wanting to eat them are entirely irrational, since I eat prawns, which a friend of mine rightly describes as sea/river maggots. Bottom feeders.

            There are other things to eat. What is it with Americans and burgers? And it’s always my burger, my car, my lifestyle, my, my, my – this from people who have a hissy fit if you mention the hypocrisy of their Christianity.

            What would your Jesus say? ‘Fuck the Amazon, get your hands off my fuckin’ burger’.

            Your straw man about your burger not destroying the Amazon wouldn’t pass in an essay by a 12-year-old. And nor would your assumption that if the 1 percent ate insect burgers and stopped stashing their ill-gotten gains in tax havens, the biosphere would magically not be made inhospitable by the other 99% still eating as many beef burgers as they consider themselves entitled to.

            One of the main factors in the destruction of the Amazon is the creation of soya plantations to feed the world’s cattle. And yet your burger has no connection with this! Did I suggest you should never have a burger? No, not once. I eat burgers occasionally – venison, not beef, but still.

            I don’t get this whole thing of a self-identifying Christian nation that’s the most self-obsessed on the planet.

            BTW, feel free to have a go at my conundrum about the self-seeking university researchers and the self-seeking Exxon scientists all coming up with the same results, which, according to your theory of the universe can’t happen because globalists.

            BTW, people who eat large amounts of red meat have a higher risk of getting bowel cancer. It’s almost as if your body doesn’t need a burger every day. Why is is always all or nothing with you guys and me, me, me?

          • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 6:12 am #

            And by the way, Dr Atkins (who wasn’t a practising doctor) had a history of heart attack, congestive heart failure and hypertension. He was also grossly overweight before his cardiac arrest.

          • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 7:14 am #

            This is the reality of the consequences of meat fanaticism (and remember, I eat meat, although mostly poultry, game or fish).

            theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/24/pig-farm-agriculture-its-wrong-to-stink-up-other-peoples-liv…

            theguardian.com/environment/2017/aug/01/meat-industry-dead-zone-gulf-of-mexico-environment-pollution

            Sometimes we’re the one percent.

            I know you’re not the Atkins proselytiser, but it’s worth remember that the first people to fall in love with him were the Hollywood luvvies! They all got really skinny but you couldn’t fit as many of them in a room because they had to stand three feet away from one another. 🙂

          • hmuller October 26, 2019 at 9:33 am #

            GA,

            First of all, I didn’t call you a $2 whore, I said “people” meaning brainwashed people who embrace UN Agenda 2030 and such road maps for a slave world dystopia. Surely, you’re not that far gone.

            Secondly, if I pay for a burger, whose burger shall I call it? “This is Bill Gate’s burger, I’m just holding it for him, officer” This I say as the red meat police throw me up against the wall..

            Do you refer to the hubby as “my husband”? Well, quit being so damn possessive! My, my, my, everything always my!

            Open your Bible, you remember that dusty book covered in spider webs. Jesus uses the word “my” many times. Nothing wrong with that word.

            As for the rest, I won’t recognize AGW; you won’t recognize or even mention geo-engineering. Let’s leave it at that.

          • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 12:32 pm #

            “As for the rest, I won’t recognize AGW; you won’t recognize or even mention geo-engineering. Let’s leave it at that.”

            Spurious geo-engineering projects don’t mean AGW isn’t valid. They just mean some people see that as a solution. Personally I wouldn’t go near it.

            I find ‘my husband’ to be somewhat more polite and suggestive of consideration than ‘the wife’.

            You just needed to say ‘a burger’.

          • Nightowl October 26, 2019 at 4:22 pm #

            GA,

            I’ll probably go across the street for a Doener Kebab next time. And I worked my ass off to get where I am 🙂

          • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 6:59 pm #

            “I’ll probably go across the street for a Doener Kebab next time. And I worked my ass off to get where I am”

            I never suggested you didn’t. I worked for a blue chip company too – still do on a freelance basis. I never thought of it as being that special as an achievement – it was a job I almost fell into by accident. But you do rather make a big deal about your suffering regarding ‘globalist fads’. 🙂

          • Nightowl October 27, 2019 at 7:27 pm #

            GA,

            The mention of “blue chip” is simply to emphasize that I get all the goodness of the Purple Revolution nutsos first.

            One big plantation for us plebes, with insect burgers. YMMV

        • GreenAlba October 25, 2019 at 5:31 pm #

          Good lord – is the Atkins diet the one that people with no sense of humour follow?

          • GreenAlba October 25, 2019 at 5:37 pm #

            And carbs get turned into sugar – goodness, who knew? 🙂

            Ketotic breath isn’t great but then it doesn’t affect the person following the meaty diet…

        • GreenAlba October 25, 2019 at 7:15 pm #

          “Dr. Atkins was right.”

          Dr Atkins lived till 72. I’m not sure if I should be overly impressed.

          No, to be honest, I’m finding that unremarkable!

          • venuspluto67 October 28, 2019 at 6:22 am #

            You should know that he died from slipping on some ice and hitting his head when he fell backward.

          • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 7:40 am #

            I do know that, venuspluto. I said he had a history of heart attack, congestive heart failure and hypertension. He was also grossly overweight before his cardiac arrest.

            None of that became untrue because he happened to die from slipping on some ice.

          • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 7:40 am #

            Maybe if he’d been fitter, he could have caught himself. 🙂

    • benr October 27, 2019 at 10:38 am #

      Sounds great!

  15. mow October 25, 2019 at 1:19 pm #

    Sharpen up that blade. Off with their heads.
    Give me bullshit or give me pardon .

  16. Beryl of Oyl October 25, 2019 at 1:30 pm #

    Now the NYT is saying Hillary never said that Tulsi was being groomed as a Russian agent.
    Even though Hillary said, at the time, “if the nesting doll fits”.
    Turns out she meant Republicans.
    Strange, when Tulsi blasted her, she never said that.
    newstarget.com/2019-10-24-hillarys-accusation-russia-is-grooming-tulsi-gabbard.html

    • Janos Skorenzy October 25, 2019 at 1:42 pm #

      They realized no one bought it so they changed reality. Historians – their historians – will look at this to see what the real reality was. And here it is in the Paper of Record. Yet still Q subscribes, faithful to the end. Good money after bad. To unsubscribe would mean to admit that he had been tricked – and that would be unbearable.

      • Q. Shtik October 25, 2019 at 3:52 pm #

        Yet still Q subscribes, – Janos

        ============

        You have to read the NYT to know what the enemy is thinking.

        • Q. Shtik October 25, 2019 at 3:53 pm #

          And don’t forget, JHK obviously reads the Times.

          • capt spaulding October 25, 2019 at 8:15 pm #

            Trump doesn’t. Just heard that he cancelled all govt. subscriptions to the Times and the Washington Post.

    • volodya October 25, 2019 at 2:20 pm #

      Down the memory hole it goes, that and a lot of other things.

      As to diet, my approach is to eat and drink what I want – but not too much – and I don’t worry about it. Diet science, like climate science, suffers from too little science and too much hype, too much celebrity and too much money.

    • venuspluto67 October 28, 2019 at 6:24 am #

      It was a lackey of Hillary Clinton’s who made the “If the nesting doll fits” remark.

  17. malthuss October 25, 2019 at 1:49 pm #

    via UNZ.com

    freedom-cat says:
    October 25, 2019 at 7:56 am GMT • 400 Words

    Sounds like a “hate crime”. What other motive was there? Doesn’t sound like anything else.

    Yet, whites are castigated daily about how racist they are. Even our own people are getting in on the name calling.

    I work for a corporation that prides itself on “inclusion” and “diversity”. For the entire month of June the company crams down our throats Gay Pride and LGBQT, DAILY. We are subjected to inclusion training which included a cartoonish program where one character starts out as female but later “transitions” to a male.

    This is at my work place. Every year they send out an email to me and ask me if I “identify” as a gender other than what my genitals tell me….well, maybe not in that blunt of terms!

    They put you thru this because they know at work you can’t really fight back…for fear of being fired or humiliated as a bigot.

    Well, it gets worse. Now, they are pushing White Liberal extremist SJW females at us.

    I have to go to a “webinar” where DEBBY IRVING will give her presentation that revolves around her book “WAKING UP WHITE”.

    I listened to the book at Scribd.com just to see what it will be about. And of course it is all her opinion, which is coming from a woman who was born with a silver spoon up her ass.

    She sounds just like Peggy Mcintosh (Read this excellent article on her: quillette.com/2018/08/29/unpacking-peggy-mcintoshs-knapsack/)

    You can listen to Debby Irving on Youtube or visit her Twitter page to get an idea.

    A Black guy, who is an obvious anti-white racist, interviews her and basically SMEARS her: proof that White SJWs are laughing stocks to minorities.

    His interview is at youtube under the name “The Case Of: The Alleged Racial Justice Educator & Writer , Debby Irving”.

    THEN, Another inclusion seminar for all of us Whities: This time from the higher etchelons – Claudia Roma Edelman: who is promoting hispanics. Her Husband is from the prominent Jewish Edelman family – company called Edelman – which involves “PR” public relations – nice words for propaganda.

    NEEDLESS TO SAY, very distressing place to work. None of this has anything to do with my job at all…

    And the CEO makes 20 Million a year. He is white as is his wife. They live in Posh area in Northeast corner of USA and are upset cuz someone is building a dormitory for migrant workers close to where they live. They are demanding it be stopped!!! LOL the hypocrisy is breathtaking.

  18. BackRowHeckler October 25, 2019 at 2:15 pm #

    Well, another one bites the dust,

    CommanderJeffrey Tamulevich, captain of a DDG, relieved of command for shacking up with a female PO2 inside his cabin while at sea. His career is over.

    I still subscribe to Navy Times, not an issue goes by that an officer– sometimes a flag officer — is fired, cashiered, kicked out or court martialed for some kind of sexual relationship with a woman sailor aboard his ship. When they started bringing women aboard ship I knew there’d be problems, for one thing the tension was unbelievable. No Navy in the history of the world had tried this. The US Navy hasn’t been in any real naval combat since 1945, I wonder how it will stack up now against modern Russian and Chinese fleets? I mean in it’s current PC condition.

    Brh

    • BackRowHeckler October 25, 2019 at 2:29 pm #

      Apparently this PO was going to ‘Captain’s Mast’ every night when she got off watch. I remember when Captains Mast was something to be avoided.

      • stelmosfire October 25, 2019 at 3:28 pm #

        Marlin, do you know if they have women in the sub fleet? Like the ones that spend months underwater? I can’t imagine in those tight quarters how there could not be trouble.

        • BackRowHeckler October 25, 2019 at 4:26 pm #

          Yeah I believe so Rip.

          I think on the larger, Ohio class boats.

          There have been problems as you can well imagine.

          • hmuller October 25, 2019 at 4:47 pm #

            Hell, why not let everyone have any love life they want aboard ship? They do in Star Trek and there’s remarkably little humping going on. We never heard:

            “Captain, put on your trousers, the Klingons are attacking!”

            What did Churchill say about the British Navy running on rum, flogging, and sodomy?

      • elysianfield October 25, 2019 at 5:52 pm #

        “I remember when Captains Mast was something to be avoided.”

        BRH,
        Sooo….generations of cabin boys had it all wrong?

        • capt spaulding October 25, 2019 at 8:22 pm #

          This’ll probably get wiped but:
          The cabin boy, the Captain’s joy, was a cunning little nipper

          He stuffed his ass with broken glass, to circumcise the Skipper

          • stelmosfire October 25, 2019 at 9:00 pm #

            Are you talking about Gilligan or are you the Capt in the story?

          • capt spaulding October 25, 2019 at 9:24 pm #

            It was a joke, Mrs. Howell, ask Thurston about it.

          • hmuller October 26, 2019 at 12:23 am #

            I remember a very similar marching cadence from Army basic training in 1977. I wonder if they still use it. Probably not, politically incorrect.

            Oh cabin boy, oh cabin boy,
            You dirty little nipper,
            You lined your ass with broken glass,
            And circumcised the skipper.

            Then the refrain;

            Yo ho, Columbo,
            Your balls are big and roundo,
            You masturbate while you navigate,
            You son of a bitch, Columbo!

          • Majella October 27, 2019 at 1:56 am #

            In the English world, that particular ‘ditty’ is known as ‘The Good Ship Venus’. The cabin-boy verse is almost word-for-word. The chorus went something like:

            ‘Frigging in the rigging,
            Wanking on the planking
            Frigging in the rigging
            Coz there’s fuck-all else to do’

            I believe the Sex Pistols purloined it in the 70s…

        • stelmosfire October 25, 2019 at 9:02 pm #

          So the Captain calls his a mast? How nautical!

          • elysianfield October 26, 2019 at 12:25 am #

            Saint,
            Last week you asked of the power requirements of a quantum computer. The actual computations take only microwatts of energy…the needs to keep the machine super cooled to enable the super conduction necessary for the operation of the computer considerable…considerable, but fixed, whereas the computational level is scalable at little energy cost.

          • stelmosfire October 26, 2019 at 1:01 am #

            Near absolute zero as I understand it. That’s C-C-Cold! Colder than a witch’s tit as Marlin says. All sorts of weird things happen at those temperatures.

      • benr October 27, 2019 at 10:47 am #

        We had a cute 20 something et3 ride our FFG for a two week period and she made the rounds with no less than six guys.
        Was a scandal.
        She was how ever one of the only women that I saw that made the ugly dungarees look good.

        wearethemighty.com/military-culture/bell-bottom-pants-navy?rebelltitem=1#rebelltitem1

    • Ricechex October 25, 2019 at 11:53 pm #

      Thanks for the post. I googled the CDR and found out that a CMC that I worked with for several years also got relieved….but story is debatable at best.

      I do remember when women were permitted to serve onboard ship. I believe the USS Benfold was one of the first ships to actually have men’s and women’s birthing, as it was constructed that way. Separate heads, accommodations, etc.

      Men were very resistant to women on the ships, and understandably so. I have seen over the years that having women on ships is indeed a problem in so many ways. (I am female BTW) It was a really bad idea.

      • benr October 27, 2019 at 10:49 am #

        I was in on of the first integrated boot camp company at ORLANDA Naval training center and that was not fun.

  19. cbills October 25, 2019 at 2:22 pm #

    Nad in other news the U.S. Treasury on Friday said that the federal deficit for fiscal 2019 was $984 billion, a 26% increase from 2018 but still short of the $1 trillion mark.

    The U.S. government also collected nearly $71 billion in customs duties, or tariffs, a 70% increase compared to the year-ago period.

  20. wet dog October 25, 2019 at 3:40 pm #

    Jim’s column up on the daily caller, the landscape of despair, is a very good read, if you haven’t seen it yet.

    dailycaller.com/2019/09/03/cities-towns-landscape-despair/

    He puts in words many of my own thoughts, especially about children and their schools. In this small town, my friends are sick of me describing the schools as prison buildings. Yes, they are, they say, but that’s all what we got.

    They’re a horrible place to spend a third of your life. No windows, blocky and moldering. This is how we treat our children? No family life, no community life, internet porn and rap music blaring at them, and having to go to a gulag every day (that’s what it really is). Orlov in “Technosphere” put it well:

    “The product of the educational process […] is a model
    prisoner of war: disciplined, obedient, indifferent, numb. Both the
    more vulnerable and the more independent-minded children tend
    to have their spirits crushed. Their self-esteem becomes dependent
    on their ability to compete in games not of their choosing and on
    the approbation they receive from people they do not love.”

    In my small circle, I’ve seen a couple of young, kind, feminine girls entire the high school as freshmen, and by junior year they were dressing like hookers and swearing like 12 year old boys.

    This tech utopia we live in is alienating to everyone, and utterly destructive to the minds of the children. Yes, it’s all collapsing on itself and will end, but this doesn’t stop the child abuse that is happening now. And whenever I mention home-schooling, it’s like I said a four-letter word in church. Most parents are insane.

    • sunburstsoldier October 25, 2019 at 4:06 pm #

      Yes indeed! Jim’s article in the Daily Caller really nails it. Our love affair with the automobile has brought into existence a type of human-built environment that is alienating and soul-destroying. Gone are the days when people lived in small towns and villages where work and family, church and school were deeply connected. We can talk politics all we want but until we understand how and why our built environment is driving us insane it is all “dust in the wind”. Great post Wet Dog!!

    • BackRowHeckler October 25, 2019 at 5:41 pm #

      Thanks for posting that, Wet Dog. I hadn’t seen it.

      I can’t help but think of the new ‘American Dream’ shopping mall that opened today in the Meadowlands in northern NJ, 3 million sq ft. 50, 000 parking spaces. The entropy in that project has to be immeasurable. I wonder what it will look like in a decade? You can make all kinds of horrible predictions and not too many of them will be far off the mark, IMHO.

      BRH

      • JohnAZ October 25, 2019 at 7:06 pm #

        BRH

        New Jersey, like New York, is going broke and losing people and revenue. Their future is grim.

        Build a huge interstate shopping complex to draw in consumers and get more sales tax revenue.

        Some states use marijuana as a tax source.

        • hmuller October 26, 2019 at 11:50 am #

          This country will look like Atlantic City – a few casinos next to a vast ghetto land.

          Lotteries and gambling didn’t save us, marijuana won’t save us, What’s next, state owned brothels?

          We need people working to produce real things, not financial fantasy games and Ponzi schemes. Look at the FED shoveling money into the credit markets. It started Sep 11 2019 and has been steadily increasing; eventually it goes exponential like a hockey stick.

          Then maybe Lester Holt will announce a new financial crisis that came out of nowhere. “Who could have seen this coming!” they always say. Oh Pleeeze!!!

  21. Q. Shtik October 25, 2019 at 4:25 pm #

    I am curious about something. Back in the day when Jim took umbrage at a comment he would let the commenter know it and sign his displeasure as “JHK”.

    Lately, such comments from the host appear in bold font and are signed JHK Admin. My question therefore is: are these blasts written by Jim or does he have some sort of staff empowered to keep order here.

    My guess is there is no staff but if so why bother adding “Admin” after JHK?

    • Janos Skorenzy October 25, 2019 at 4:55 pm #

      You have asked this before. It is akin to your meditating on the hands of a clock while America burned during 9/11. I crave your indulgence if I’m remembering this wrong. The Creative Process sometimes takes over, yet the saliency of my point remains.

      • Q. Shtik October 25, 2019 at 5:16 pm #

        I crave your indulgence if I’m remembering this wrong. – Janos

        =============

        Well, OK, indulgence granted. I don’t recall asking this before.

        I think the point you’re making is that I have an annoying way about me of concerning myself with what other people consider to be unimportant minutiae. But, as the old saying goes, “unimportant minutiae” is in the eye of the beholder.

        P.S. ‘Salience’, good word. I had to look it up.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 25, 2019 at 6:31 pm #

          You have no right to grant an indulgence since you don’t remember. I do remember you asking this before. I’m not sure about the clock part during the 9/11 crisis per se. It might have been at some other time.

        • capt spaulding October 25, 2019 at 8:31 pm #

          Speaking of minutiae, Q, one thought I remember having, was that none of those people eating breakfast and drinking coffee that morning, had the slightest clue that a couple hours later they’d be plunging through a window 800 feet in the air, headed for oblivion.

          • hmuller October 26, 2019 at 10:51 am #

            Sometimes life surprises you, I wonder about the 658 dead who worked at Cantor Fitzgerald. Fortunately for their CEO, he was driving his son to private school that day – for the first time ever – and so missed the disaster..

    • James Howard Kunstler October 26, 2019 at 7:41 am #

      QSchtick— They are written by me: JHK.

  22. sunburstsoldier October 25, 2019 at 4:38 pm #

    Of what benefit is freedom if we only use it to enslave ourselves?

    • sunburstsoldier October 25, 2019 at 5:28 pm #

      Freedom in itself means nothing, its what we do with our freedom that matters.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 25, 2019 at 6:32 pm #

        Quite so. The Right (Wrong) has made freedom an end itself – which is simply a carte blanche for self indulgence.

        • sunburstsoldier October 25, 2019 at 6:53 pm #

          Self indulgence knows no political boundaries.

          • capt spaulding October 25, 2019 at 8:33 pm #

            “None labor so hard as those who forge the chains of their own binding.”

  23. Q. Shtik October 25, 2019 at 4:55 pm #

    Changing the subject briefly, if I may be so bold, last week (Oct 18) Jim Cramer of CNBC was interviewing Energy Sec, Rick Perry on the reason(s) for his decision to leave his position at the end of this year. Perry sounded about as articulate as I have ever heard him and exceptionally polite as well. He rattled off a number of accomplishments in the process of deflecting some incoming fire from Cramer. At one point Perry said with a kindly, although probably disingenuous, smile: “Jim, I hope you weren’t one of those “Peak Oil” people.”

    I immediately wondered what JHK would think of this remark if/when he heard it. The full interview ran a little under 8 mins and is available on-line.

  24. Pucker October 25, 2019 at 5:27 pm #

    Rachel Maddow seems to have a Castration Fantasy about Trump, a variation on Penis Envy?

    Isn’t the new Terminator movie basically a Castration Fantasy? In the movie, doesn’t Sarah Conner struggle with the male Terminator and then shout “You’re terminated!” as she cuts off the Terminator’s balls and then tosses his Nuts out of the window of the 18 wheeler truck barreling out of control in flames down the highway?

    Why did the Feminists give up on Castration and instead go for Gun Confiscation?

    “I’ve seen what Penises can do. Penises have no place in our schools and in our communities. Hell Yes, we’re gonna take your Nuts!”
    – Beto

    • capt spaulding October 25, 2019 at 8:36 pm #

      Women do have Penis Envy, and men, being the kind of good guys that we are, are always trying to give one to them.

      • Majella October 25, 2019 at 9:00 pm #

        ?!

        • GreenAlba October 25, 2019 at 9:24 pm #

          I think it’s a variation on the old joke about the woman who goes into a bar and asks for a double entendre. 🙂

          • GreenAlba October 25, 2019 at 9:24 pm #

            So the bartender gives her one.

          • Majella October 27, 2019 at 2:11 am #

            Snap. At the same time, too…

      • Majella October 25, 2019 at 10:35 pm #

        ‘A woman walks into a bar. The bar man asks, “What’ll you have?”

        She says “I’d like a double entendre”. So he gave her one.

    • hmuller October 26, 2019 at 12:33 am #

      There’s nothing new under the sun. Joseph Campbell mentioned that several ancient cultures had a myth about a woman with razor sharp teeth lining her private parts. She surprises the man by severing his johnson. Ouch! A very cringe-worthy story. I don’t know how that Bradley-Chelsea Manning could volunteer to go under the knife.

      • abbybwood October 28, 2019 at 1:25 am #

        I always thought that was what chastity belts did?!

  25. 4014HAMPHEDGE October 25, 2019 at 5:36 pm #

    Peak Oil was always defined at the industry level as “Peak Production” of “Conventional Oil”. Sometimes called regular oil, drilled on land (or sand) and did not include off shore; petroleum fuels from shale or other sources animal vegetable or mineral are not conventional oil. Maybe Jim can alert our Texas Oil Secretary?

    To Mr. JHK main article this morning: I am personally scared shitless as these coming months of disarray open USA to covert agency shenanigan smoke screens up to and including False Flag event(s). This good old Irish word is too nice to describe what rogue elements might do to cover their seditious asses.

    My forte’ follows JHK lead; the missing railway component, Really needed are the demolished branch lines into food growing territory. Quick primer on Famine & Cannibalism for the young and uninitiated is seen in William Forstchen: “ONE SECOND AFTER”

    • Nightowl October 25, 2019 at 6:16 pm #

      Indeed. I have no doubt an insane plot is being hatched in the Schiffster’s top secret star chamber in the Capitol basement.

      Those Sanpaku eyes tell all.

    • sunburstsoldier October 25, 2019 at 6:59 pm #

      We need to re-read Emerson’s essay on Self-Reliance.

  26. Pucker October 25, 2019 at 5:51 pm #

    Why did Sarah Connor get a massive Boob Job, like the wife of “Soul Train” host, Don Cornelius? I thought that it was all about Freedom and expressing yourself freely without inhibition on the Dance Floor, not more Hollywood Fake Tits? Why does everyone just want a Hollywood Body? Everyone is so self-absorbed that they want a College Degree and a Hollywood Body, and they are willing to take out huge student loans to get their nuts off. Aren’t these two aspirations mutually inconsistent and antagonistic? What does Erudition have in common with Tits-and-Ass?!

    Why did Sarah Connor think that Big Tits would thwart the male Terminator?

    And what does it have to do with the Exigency of Gun Confiscation? Why do the Women all want my Warm Gun? I like to stick my gun between a big set of Tits.

    • Pucker October 25, 2019 at 6:19 pm #

      Subconsciously, the “Terminator” is a Penis, right? All Guns and all Machines are subconsciously “Penises”, right? Technology, particularly Violent Technology (the “Gun”), is penetrative of feminine “Nature”, like the Penis. Hence, the exigency of Gun Confiscation, right?

  27. Janos Skorenzy October 25, 2019 at 6:13 pm #

    amren.com/features/2019/10/a-police-officers-view-of-race/

    Ambrose Kane gives the down low on these low downs. Those who promoted the idea that all policemen are racists (in the bad sense) have much to answer for.

    The Bad sense being prejudice against Non-Whites or letting their natural distaste influence their work. The good sense is one natural love and preference for one’s own race. Only Whites are persecuted for this.

    • abbybwood October 28, 2019 at 1:31 am #

      This reminds me of yet ANOTHER stupid thing Biden recently said. He told a Black woman who said, “What should I tell my daughter to do if she is pulled over by the police?”

      Sleepy Joe said, “Well, it would be hard for me to answer that because my daughter would be White and cops don’t pull over White women.”

      D’Oh!

  28. Pucker October 25, 2019 at 6:41 pm #

    The Chinese Com…munist Party is basically a Power Pathology with Chinese Characteristics, right? The Chinese want Absolute Power and the Moral Certainty of fulfilling the Confucian delusion of Benevolent Moral Leadership while escaping into the dark fantasy of sadomasochistic sexual perversion and hiding all of their loot overseas and pretending that this incongruity does not exist? A kind of Jekyll and Hide existence…. A total mental warp in which honesty and Good Faith are hopelessly twisted and bent, like the face of that marble statue in the Metropolitan Museum of Art of that Ancient Greek Geezer who was tortured by the gods for mouthing off and being a smart ass to one of the gods. Who was that bloke?

    • sunburstsoldier October 25, 2019 at 6:52 pm #

      Prometheus?

    • Pucker October 25, 2019 at 7:11 pm #

      In one of the great parables of hubris, the satyr Marsyas challenged the god Apollo to a musical competition. The god triumphed and then punished his challenger by skinning him alive. Here, Permoser condensed the tragic climax of the story into an emotive portrayal of Marsyas. The contorted face, with an open mouth revealing a bitten tongue, and twisting head immediately convey pain, while the taut shoulders suggest that his arms are bound behind his back. The satyr is draped with an animal pelt, pointing to his gruesome fate. The panels of mottled marble set into the base are flecked with red, perhaps evoking spattered blood.

      metmuseum.org/art/online-features/viewpoints/marsyas

      • sunburstsoldier October 25, 2019 at 7:22 pm #

        Hubris is another word for over-inflated ego right?

        • Pucker October 25, 2019 at 7:36 pm #

          Satyrs are Transgenders, right? Gender fluid, animal human hybrids? Trans humanism?

          • Pucker October 25, 2019 at 7:49 pm #

            The LGTBQ’s all look like Marsyas….

    • EvelynV October 25, 2019 at 11:18 pm #

      Pucker, are you referring to Epstein and all the gooey and dripping things bridging his world and the world of the people responsible to guide the ship we are all on, commonly referred to as the ship of fools?

      Well *are* you punk!!

      • elysianfield October 26, 2019 at 12:03 am #

        “Well *are* you punk!!”

        Evelyn

        Rather, you should ask…”…I GOTS TO KNOW”

  29. HowardBeale October 25, 2019 at 7:23 pm #

    Jim,
    Our master weaver of criminal threads, ex-SS agent, Dan Bongino, actually does posit that Brennan fooled Comey–for a while; not to “exonerate” Comey, as he is as guilty as a man who wears gloves that are too tight. You probably caught the show after you posted this–I assume you’re still watching him, as he has been two years ahead of everyone.

    Anyway, Dan claims that the FBI wanting Papadopoulos to wear a wire when meeting with Misfud wasn’t a CYA backstop explanation for initiating a fake investigation (“We thought Misfud was a Russian agent”), but was actually indicative that they didn’t know who he was at that point. This is the one area where I disagree with the Master, as Misfud was training FBI agents in Rome at Link? campus.
    Maybe I wasn’t paying close enough attention to Dan’s podcast today…
    Anyhew, as a newly printed Republican–the framing of Donald Trump flipped me–I am finally feeling like God, aka, Bill Barr, hasn’t forsaken the pale blue dot, and we might get some gott damn, well deserved fucking justice, and some of these cock suckers might finally end up in prison. Whew. Felt good.
    Cheers.

    • ellipsis October 26, 2019 at 8:22 am #

      Realistically, prison, probably not. But public exposure and shaming ain’t half bad either.

  30. Pucker October 25, 2019 at 7:31 pm #

    It’s Weird: A big part of my Life has been the Chinese Com…munist Party, but it’s like one’s crazy mother, it’s not talked about. It’s like the Deep State in the US in that it’s a huge influence on one’s life, but no one talks about it. It’s like the family that lives in the haunted house, but none of the family members talk about it because they’re too afraid. Weird…. It’s a true Halloween Ghost story….

    metmuseum.org/art/online-features/viewpoints/marsyas

  31. BackRowHeckler October 25, 2019 at 7:41 pm #

    Current temp, Antarctica: -61°F, wind chill factor, -81°F

    Temp in the Arctic, -1°F

    Well, ice caps won’t be melting today. Until I began looking this data up I was under the impression it was so warm at the poles that palm trees were growing and Polar Bears were drowning. But now I see its colder than a witches t#t and there are so many polar bears (31,500, up from 6000 in 1967) that in Finland people have to go around armed lest they be attacked. I feel like I’ve been lied to.

    Brh

    • JohnAZ October 25, 2019 at 8:34 pm #

      BRH

      Just read Wikipedia article on Younger Dryas. Quickly, it is a glaciation age about 12000 years ago that temporarily halted the gradual warming that has been going on since the last ice age.

      Interesting, but technical

      It shows how complex and multi-faceted the causes of global climate change can be.

      And how foolish that only one thing can affect it.

      • sunburstsoldier October 25, 2019 at 9:06 pm #

        One-dimensional mindset caused by an unwillingness to learn to think for one’s self and look at an issue from all sides. It’s much easier just to go along with the herd…

      • BackRowHeckler October 25, 2019 at 9:17 pm #

        The ice pack in NE receded about 12000 years ago. Where I am right now was under a glacier 2 miles thick. When it melted it formed Long Island Sound, and the mountains and rivers around here. Then a neolithic people showed up around 8000 years ago. Yale runs a small museum in town that has a bunch of artifacts from that time. A few years back, when mucking around in a field along the river, I found a stone bowl with a triangular flint tool inside it. It looked like it was from indian times so I brought it up to the museum. They looked at it and told me it was not from neolithic, but from Tunxis Indians who moved here in the 15th century. They accepted it anyway. (It was tools to mash up berries and make dye)

        Brh

      • GreenAlba October 25, 2019 at 9:20 pm #

        And that, JohnAZ, would be why climate scientists have spent decades studying ALL the factors that affect climate change and isolating them so that they can estimate the discrete contribution of each factor and therefore establish the importance of human activity as a driver.

        Or did you think you’d thought of that and they hadn’t? What do you think they’ve been doing for 50 years? By the way, the vast majority of climatology papers don’t mention climate change – they’re about climatology, which was a thing before anyone much noticed the atmosphere was warming faster than at any time in the last 800,000 years (in accordance with the basic science demonstrated by Svante Arrhenius in the 1890s and yet to be refuted*). But the better climatology gets, the better the science of climate change gets.

        *But we won’t call it ‘settled science’ until elysianfield’s paper has been peer reviewed.

        • JohnAZ October 25, 2019 at 10:04 pm #

          As I have said many times, this Wikipedia article shows that as you said, it is multifaceted.

          I do not believe the best supercomputer modeling can predict what happens with changes. Right now we have people who want to put mirrors in space to reflect sunlight, who want to put seltzer’s in the air to reflect sunlight.

          AOC with her do it tomorrow solutions does nothing more than really piss people off.

          Making drastic changes might throw us into another ice age. But might throw us into really exaggerated warming.

          We do not know. We need to go slow and measure the impact of what we are doing.

          My position is go after pollution that people can see , smell and maybe soon, taste. The toxicity of the planet is increasing causing increases in cancer from generation to generation.

          Politically, we should be putting together a plan to reduce carbon emissions over the next fifty years including all aspects.

          Then convince the real polluters, China and India, to implement the plans.

          Or we can wait fifty years as we are , and Peak oil will eliminate the problem. With much agony.

          • EvelynV October 26, 2019 at 12:24 pm #

            No JohnAZ. We should be making plans for mankind’s imminent death. Pretty much the same pitch JHK makes repeatedly in a slightly more euphemistic way.

        • elysianfield October 25, 2019 at 11:58 pm #

          Alba,
          We won’t call it “settled science” under any conditions.

          It wasn’t that the Japanese scientist was a climate denier, he made no claims…he just stated the view that the current climate models were not sufficiently trustworthy to formulate public policy…a concept which I have earlier argued.

          Search as you may, you will find no statement by me that Anthropomorphic Climate Change is false…only that I doubted that (O2) was the true and primary causal element in an equation that has yet to be fully defined.

          A denier says “NO”

          A doubter says “Who Knows?”

          Elysianfield says it is unsupportable to formulate public policy that will negatively impact hundreds of millions of citizens in the first world on a paradigm that is generally understood to be not well understood….

          • ellipsis October 26, 2019 at 8:20 am #

            Ding, ding, ding, ding! You may pick up your prize at the door.

          • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 12:44 pm #

            “We won’t call it “settled science” under any conditions.”

            No we won’t – irony is clearly not your forte.

            We’ll call it science that has identified human activity as the main driver of the current increase in atmospheric warming, to as near certain as science can say. There are, of course, people who will never accept that we can know enough. They’ve kept us back 40 years from taking any meaningful action.

            We are emitting too much CO2 and methane – and as the planet warms we it will release even more of its methane stores. Cutting back on CO2 emission is what rational people would do, but we are not rational. I have never proposed any weird and wonderful schemes of the type JohnAZ thinks will catapult us either backwards or forwards, just boring old control of CO2 and methane emissions. Tedious common sense, in order to mitigate the worst effects of business as usual.

            And if I knew so little that I thought the issue was called *Anthropomorphic* climate change (as you have referred to it previously), I’d defer just a tiny bit to people who’d read a bit around the subject for decades.

            In fact you really need to look at that third paragraph again, from start to finish.

          • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 12:45 pm #

            ellipsis

            There’s a prize at the door for sycophants as well.

          • elysianfield October 26, 2019 at 1:47 pm #

            “And if I knew so little that I thought the issue was called *Anthropomorphic* climate change (as you have referred to it previously), I’d defer just a tiny bit to people who’d read a bit around the subject for decades.”

            sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0006320711001170

            …Yeah….

          • hmuller October 26, 2019 at 5:10 pm #

            Here we are a few days from Halloween. Do they commemorate the day in Scotland? GA can scare the kiddies dressed as the Ghost of Environmental Apocalypses Past, “Beware, we’ll all be dead by 1970 under glaciers and ice!” And I can dress as Ramses – King of Denial. LOL

          • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 6:53 pm #

            EF

            “anthropomorphic factors permitting low-risk assisted colonization in temperate grassy woodlands”

            Is that some kind of joke?

          • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 6:53 pm #

            hm, I expect you’d be just fine going as yourself. 🙂

          • elysianfield October 26, 2019 at 7:06 pm #

            “We are emitting too much CO2 and methane ”

            Alba,

            Even though I question that which should remain unquestioned…I am really kind of a green guy.

            As an example. Where I reside in Western Oregon, we have what are called ground hornets. They often build their nests under the ground, in burrows abandoned by small rodents. The nests can become huge, with many hundreds of hornets, and they are very aggressive…you usually find them inadvertently while walking in brush, the first indication in that you are attacked by these stinging insects and must take to foot(magna cum cleritate!). Being a guy, I, when finding them thus, seek revenge.

            In the bad old days one would take a 3lb coffee can, fill it 1/4 full of diesel, sneak up to the nest, pour it into the hole where the bugs reside, and then cover the hole with the can. Within 12 hours, all the bugs, as well as nestlings, are dead. I “know a guy” who has done this dozens of times. But now, being a friend of the environment, I found a better idea.

            I had an old box fan that had broken a portion of a blade, making it unusable. I removed the other four blades, and then drilled the hub in several places so that I might install weed-whacking line…four sets of two. The fan worked, at high speed, without vibration. I then simply snuck up to the nest and laid the fan down, covering completely their only portal.

            Well…immediately there were at least 50 hornets swarming the infernal device…15 minutes later, maybe only 15…8 hours later, none at all. When I removed the fan, there were parts of hornets everywhere, and many walking wounded, (those I left to the tender mercies of their insect brethren).

            Subsequent to the event, there are no hornets in evidence. Revenge, and even sweet Greta could not complain of the environmental impact!

            Remember this when I am next impugned….

          • hmuller October 27, 2019 at 10:51 am #

            The People For the Ethical Treatment of Insects will put you on their hate list.

          • GreenAlba October 27, 2019 at 1:06 pm #

            Well, not being a Jain, EF, I can’t fault you for removing your pests, although it does sound a bit like a flock of birds caught in a jet engine – large stinging insects would bring any psychopathic traits I have to the surface too, I think. Being a townie, I got the environmental health folks to remove the large wasps’ nest in my previous garden with a big gun full of of white powder and wearing serious protective clothing. People doing jobs like that always seem to be taking pleasure in their work! Although it’s probably less fun with other infestations.

            Perhaps you could have drowned them in beer instead of diesel. 🙂

            This bit…

            “Even though I question that which should remain unquestioned”

            …is a straw man. Science continues. It continues to continue. But the results remain annoyingly within the same ranges, even if your paycheque comes from Exxon and not the Max Planck Institute. The only thing that seems to change is that confirmation demonstrates things are moving faster than had been thought. Scientists are by nature conservative, leaving the sensationalist stuff to non-specialist media.

            The whole point of the ‘you can never know everything – and therefore…’ brigade is to obfuscate eternally, even though we know very easily enough to know what the problem is and to turn our attention to ways of doing less of it.

            If we can’t find ways of doing less of it, i.e. economies can’t transition to an extent that is in any way significant (they can’t ever transition completely as I think we are all agreed) to better means of energy production – or if our economies collapse before we get anywhere with mitigation – then that’s the way it is and goodbye us. But it’s not the same as there not being *enough* science in which the vast majority of scientists have confidence to demonstrate what the problem is.

            You can despise some of the bearers of solutions all you like – we all could – but that doesn’t invalidate the problem. If people focused on arguing the merits of the solutions rather than still disputing the basic problem, things would be clearer and might generate more light and less heat.

          • elysianfield October 27, 2019 at 6:51 pm #

            “You can despise some of the bearers of solutions all you like”

            Alba,
            I neither despise nor impugn them, rather, I just do not believe them….

          • hmuller October 27, 2019 at 8:36 pm #

            First we believe Then we embrace all the facts and science which confirms that belief. Some people lack the honest introspection to ever realize that about themselves – not to mention any names.

          • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 7:50 am #

            “First we believe Then we embrace all the facts and science which confirms that belief. Some people lack the honest introspection to ever realize that about themselves – not to mention any names.”

            No, hm. First and only we spend decades paying close attention to the facts and the science. You seem to forget that for some of us paying attention didn’t start in the last few years.

            You said elsewhere you’d never accept AGW. The definition of a denier, as opposed to a sceptic, is that there is no amount of evidence that will ever convince them. If you ask them what specific evidence would convince them, they cannot tell you. That is the essence of being a denier. And it is a pathology, not something to be proud of, like some self-identifying maverick who won’t be taken in by THEM.

            Some people lack the honest introspection to ever realize that about themselves – not to mention any names

          • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 7:50 am #

            So they resort to ad hominems, since facts do not support them.

  32. tim mouton October 25, 2019 at 10:43 pm #

    Why is that someone as astute as JHK can’t seem to grasp that the very same POTUS who’s in the crosshairs of a “seditious coup” is at once the telegenic frontman of an unfolding neofascist sequel to neoliberalism?

    Chalk it up to the fetish of aestheticization.

    • James Howard Kunstler October 26, 2019 at 7:58 am #

      Tim Mouton — all the evidence suggest that the vehicle actually delivering the “fascism” you speak of is “progressive” liberalism. What else does it signify when”inclusion” means “down with free speech?”

  33. hmuller October 26, 2019 at 1:10 am #

    If it’s OK to wander off topic. I was just thinking about how harshly some virtue-signalling SJ Warriors love to judge our past cultural icons. Imagine what they would think about the TV show the “Flying Nun” (1967-70).

    It’s set in Puerto Rico; but can any of the Puerto Rican nuns fly? Oh no, they’re too weighed down by ignorance, oppression, poverty, sexism, priest patriarchy, and melanin.

    But Gidgit Whitebread arrives from Malibu, and on day one she’s flying her bony, white ass all over the island – scaring the natives, and generating a new cult of Santeria.

    And it’s ridiculous to think a bonnet like that can enable you to fly. You don’t see the Sydney Opera House flying all over Australia.

    • Pucker October 26, 2019 at 3:14 am #

      “The Flying Nun”….

      Why do they call ‘em “Nuns”? Because “they ain’t get’n Nun”?

    • EvelynV October 26, 2019 at 12:29 pm #

      “You don’t see the Sydney Opera House flying all over Australia.”

      Speak for yerself, you blithering canker sore, you don’t know what the rest of us see!

      • hmuller October 26, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

        As one canker sore to another, “Do tell.”

  34. toktomi October 26, 2019 at 2:08 am #

    Apparently, as it turns out, there is a land-based source of dietary iodine worth talking about. According to a number of online sources, black walnut hulls are loaded with iodine.
    naturalnews.com/032028_iodine_black_walnuts.html

    ~toktomi~

    • malthuss October 26, 2019 at 12:28 pm #

      so boil nut shells? nutty u

  35. Pucker October 26, 2019 at 3:10 am #

    Is the litmus of piety baptism, circumcision, or castration?

    Do you remember that Heaven’s Gate Asshole, Applewhite?

    • Pucker October 26, 2019 at 3:17 am #

      The Chinese Emperors could castrate blokes working in the Palace around the women. You wanna talk about Pussy Whipping….

      Women, like Sarah Connor, want to castrate the Terminator. Castration is the ultimate Feminist Pussy Whipping power trip, right?

      • Pucker October 26, 2019 at 3:28 am #

        Sarah Connor’s (and Rachel Maddow’s) Mission is to use powerful explosives to Castrate the Terminator. It’s not enough to just shoot him in the balls with that shotgun because he’ll re-grow a new set of balls to run for POTUS again in 2020.

    • Pucker October 26, 2019 at 3:44 am #

      Didn’t Applewhite believe that a bloke had to be Castrated in order to be Raptured because there’s a big sign at the entrance to Heaven that reads: “No Dicks”?

      Now there’s a Religion that’s a Hard Sell….

      • BackRowHeckler October 26, 2019 at 7:56 am #

        Odd thing about the Applewhite cult.

        A few of the members were from Ct, each one from super wealthy families. Apparently even with all kinds of advantages in life they couldn’t manage to pull their heads out of their asses when it counted, and when they needed to.

        Brh

        • malthuss October 26, 2019 at 9:09 am #

          that was a real strange one.

          • BackRowHeckler October 26, 2019 at 9:29 am #

            Yeah it was.

            I get the impression these suicidal and homicidal cults (Manson, Jim Jones, Applewhite) aren’t sucking in as many people as they used to. Maybe we are wising up.

            Brh

          • hmuller October 27, 2019 at 9:49 am #

            The minute that beady eyed guru told me I had to give up my testicles, I would have been out the door!

        • Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2019 at 1:13 pm #

          So it has ever been. Once Christianity really got going, all kinds of well established people dropped out to join it, even becoming monks or nuns. The search for a Meaning that ordinary life doesn’t provide, or only provides as an Ideology.

          These poor folks chose poorly is all, a Path that ended nowhere but death. Other Paths attain unto Life. Is middle class Ct life really that fulfilling? You love to get away by yourself, away from the women folks. A monk of sorts whose religion is fishing. Come and I will make you a fisher of men, the Master said to other fishermen.

  36. volodya October 26, 2019 at 10:23 am #

    What if the FBI situation is as it seems to be, a framing of the President by the Deep State leaders.And it failed due to just simply, it was a lie. – John AZ

    John AZ, that’s just the thing, anybody past the age of 12 with functioning eyeballs, plus some rudimentary knowledge of the world, plus a lick of sense, could see what was afoot here. 

    Nobody has perfect knowledge as to what’s going on but we have got certain intellectual faculties, that evolved out of necessity, that allows us to put together a picture even if many of the pieces of the puzzle are missing. We can still see the outlines and so we have a good idea of what we’re looking at. 

    It WAS a framing of the President by Deep State leaders. It WAS a lie. You are entirely correct. You and me and many others saw that it was a lie right from the start. We knew in our bones it was nonsense because there was no logic to the theory that was being presented, never mind facts supporting the contention that the election was bent by collusion with or by foreign powers, least of all Russia. 

    But do the Russians spy? Do they engage in actions dark and unseemly? Of course they do. Everyone does. It’s like masturbation, ninety percent admit it, ten percent lie. 

    The thing is this: that Russia-gate was a lie is entirely irrelevant, at least in the murky world of the spook. Even if there were NO facts, and there weren’t, since when does that stop intelligence agencies worthy of the name? Getting information on foreign enemies AND friends is just ONE thing they do and that’s the job of the spy. But there are others that are supposed to engage in other nefarious activities like rendition, sabotage, murder and the creation and spread of disinformation.

    And it’s in this last area that the vaunted American intel agencies fell on their faces. They should never have gotten into this Russian collusion absurdity because there was no logic to the contention that there was political or technological expertise in Russia – of all places – hat could be of benefit to an American presidential candidate, at least none that wasn’t already underfoot in great abundance in America. So why in the hell would Trump go to Russia for help? Zero logic. None. 

    And there was no logic to the supposition that a Russian ruler would want one such as Trump as his counterpart in the USA. Putin is a despot and what a despot needs to legitimize his despotic rule is a credible foreign adversary or one that can be presented as such. Leopoldo Galtieri is a really good example: he had Margaret Thatcher. Argentines were protesting in the streets one day, and the day that the invasion of the Falklands was announced, they were dancing and singing patriotic songs. Galtieri and his cut-throats couldn’t keep a straight face. Thatcher was Emmanuel Goldstein, out to thwart the great Argentine people in their worthy aspirations. That’s what Putin needs and that’s exactly what Trump is not. 

    Would Kim Jong Un be better off domestically with one such as The Donald that tries to make nice, however incoherently, and that wines and dines him, however ineptly? Or one such as Hillary that would never contemplate such a thing? It’s the same with Putin. Both Rocketman and Putin would gratefully take Hillary as their foreign enemy. 

    What the CIA and their intel brethren needed to do was come up with something entirely different as a means of stopping Trump. This Russia-gate thing showed nothing but a failure of imagination and creativity. It was sloppy and lazy. Assuming there’s no longer any will or guts in US intel to shoot an American president or candidate (it’s been done before so it would behoove Americans to not act like virgins about this) there’s other potential avenues like creating stories about financial or sexual malfeasance. These could show promise, but it takes some talent and diligence and energy to put together a likely narrative supported by evidence even if both the story and evidence are manufactured. But this is the job of intel. And they didn’t bloody do it. And now Trump is sitting in the Oval Office. 

    • volodya October 26, 2019 at 10:26 am #

      Typo alert: hat could be of benefit

      THAT could be of benefit.

      • JohnAZ October 26, 2019 at 11:36 am #

        Good post.

        It is interesting that there were actually two phases to the Deep State response to first Trump’s campaign, and then his presidency. It is interested and I think the investigations will show that the whole thing started during the campaign as a mud collection exercise, but accelerated ate Trump gained on Hillary. The investigation will find that the start stemmed from Hillary’s connections in Russia and that the whole pre election part may have been and internal struggle INSIDE RUSSIA. Putin and his crowd against the oligarchical Hillary group in Russia. Could it be that the two sides in Russia supported with their hacking supported the two sides here?

        Anyway, the late pre-election defamation campaign easily morphed into the impeachment and Mueller efforts. Notice who has been at the top of the effort all along, giving her snide remarks and her monthly Reason I Lost. HRC.

        The intel group was created and used in both efforts by the controlling leadership of the Obama administration, there really is no control over their leaders activities. The networks established under Obama and HRC, especially the CIA, maintained after Trump’s ascent. Trump has finally played hardball and fired most of the leaders of the Deep State intel group, but because we elected a Dem House, the survivors and the fired ones still have a significant voice. We are currently hearing from them thanks to Schiff’s inquiry.

  37. volodya October 26, 2019 at 11:23 am #

    Elysianfield, 

    what bugs me no end and what makes me reluctant to engage in this climate change stuff (even though I sometimes do) is the deliberate misrepresentation of what we’re saying (and what you and I are saying is pretty much the same I think). 

    You need to re-iterate time and again what you say and what you mean and it does no good. Why? Because of the emotionality surrounding the issue. Reason be damned, facts are not wanted, all that stuff takes a back seat to lining up and being counted with the people you see as your own, to being seen as an educated and enlightened individual. Few things are so energizing as marching with and being held in high regard by people that you see as attractive. This is the human condition. 

    And it’s an issue of money. Do you want research funds? Do you want a faculty position? Tenure? 

    It’s not just in this area of scientific endeavor, there are others, even in the hardest of the hard sciences – physics. 

    Quantum physics: when people say “counter-intuitive” I tend to think they’re trying to get me to accept an illogical proposition because they’re trying to put one over on me, for example, for monetary gain. But when people use that term in respect of quantum theory I tend to accept what they’re saying.

    What I don’t accept is the stifling of scientists and philosophers who question the foundation of quantum physics because so much of it is so unlike what we see in the classical realm. I don’t accept the proposition that the Copenhagen Approach puts forth, that being to shut up and calculate. It should NOT be a career limiting move to try and see and divine other angles.  

    It’s not just physics. Remember Clovis First? For decades it was a career stopper for anthropologists and archaeologists to suggest that there were people in the Americas prior to the Clovis culture. People would stop digs if they saw human artifacts in strata that suggested more ancient occupation that Clovis. It was an absurd limitation on academic freedom and contrary to any notion of objective investigation. Yet, Clovis First prevailed until the weight of evidence bent and then broke that theory. In the meantime people suffered career-wise and personally because they had the cojones to buck consensus. 

    I’ve seen it multiple times in the business world, which is my own realm. When consensus takes shape, common sense becomes an impediment, and facts become irrelevant, and even if it’s obvious your company is headed over the cliff, you speak up at the risk of your job and your career. 

    This is what I see with this climate debate, or rather the lack thereof. To my eyes the system of global climate is an enormously complex mechanism whose modelling really would take gigantic computational power, but more than that, requires enormous inputs of data, and which still requires constant revision and updating. And it requires free discussion and debate and not what we’re seeing, which is the opposite. 

    As to public policy, we better have something better than something half-assed to base our decisions, and if it takes another ten years, better take those ten years. I don’t even want to contemplate bringing up the notion that maybe we thwarted another ice age in a two and a half million year sequence of ice ages and that maybe global warming is better than what would have befallen us otherwise. Because here be dragons, thous shalt not tread on that ground. Do we even understand the process of glacial advance and glacial recession? I mean, these are only the biggest issues of climate change. Don’t even ask, you fucking worthless, cretinous climate change-global warming denier, you POS oil company enabler. 

    That Japanese guy isn’t the only one saying what he’s saying, there are others. Thankfully. 

    • BackRowHeckler October 26, 2019 at 12:22 pm #

      All true

      And the upshot of all the BS — lawsuits against oil companies, carbon taxes, divestment of oil companies — is that it will become even more expensive for people out here to heat their houses in the winter, put gas in their car, and afford to live in general. It’s a plain goddam lie that we can get rid oil and coal and just plug everything into windmills and solar panels, and life will just go on as it was. For the life of me, here’s what’s going to happen if these fanatics drive up the price of fuel over the ‘Climate Emergency’: millions of American people will sit freezing to death in their houses in january because heating oil is $10 per gallon, and unable to drive anywhere because gas is $7.50 a gallon. Meanwhile, Bloomberg, Obama, Steyer, Kerry, Gore etc will be snug at home, in warm houses that are lit up like Christmas trees, patting themselves on the back for the great job they did saving humanity. (Private jet warmed up outside, ready to fly to yet another Climate Change conference, where it will be one big self congratulatory circle jerk)

      Brh

      • EvelynV October 26, 2019 at 12:50 pm #

        What’s your point? It only makes sense the people with the most resources have the best chances of staying comfortable to the end.

        Your argument becomes weak when you have to resort to emotional crap like singling out individuals.

        Why not say “Meanwhile, McConnell, Kushner, Coch, Romney, Cheney etc will be snug at home,…”?

        • volodya October 26, 2019 at 1:03 pm #

          Good point. Why not indeed? Them too.

          But let’s give a nod to hypocrisy here, the better-off referenced by BRH as examples are most strident about doing something just as long as it doesn’t require more than symbolic action on their own part. Give up the jet? No chance.

          IOW it’s a class thing, or at least has the strong appearance of being a class issue. The wealthy piss on lower-class Deplorables as being climate change miscreants, while producing carbon emission is great abundance ie the jets.

        • JohnAZ October 26, 2019 at 1:37 pm #

          How about the entire Deep State?

      • volodya October 26, 2019 at 12:51 pm #

        I think it was the archdruid that suggested that today’s elites are in a huff about climate change, and that we MUST conserve. Not that THEY conserve but that us little people conserve. For the good of the planet? For the amelioration of global climate? No, just so that the elite can have more for themselves.

        Would you be surprised? I wouldn’t, just look at what they’ve done thus far in re-arranging industrial production to slave-wage countries and simultaneously opening borders to multitudes of desperate, impoverished newcomers.

        Do you object? If you do then you’re a moron and a racist, and according to people like Kevin Williamson, are due for replacement and extinction. Bye-bye.

        The point is, I would put very little past our ruling elite. They are capable of damn near anything if there’s a buck in it for them.

        • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 1:04 pm #

          Volodya

          Your cheap taunts show you up. You are determined to present me as one of those ‘educated’, (sorry, ‘*cough* educated’) elites who want to show off how enlightened they are to ‘people who see [them] as attractive’. That would be why I respond on here (I never bring the topic up – it’s always brought up as provocation) to a bunch of people many of whom despise me and who have no clue who I am anyway, so if I want to be admired by people who see me as attractive I’m kinda in the wrong place.

          I don’t go on climate marches and never have. I just do my bit so as not to be a hypocrite, but nobody in the real world knows about it because I don’t carry a placard while I’m doing it.

          • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

            Or, mostly not doing it.

          • Nightowl October 26, 2019 at 4:17 pm #

            I don’t despise you Green.

            Have a cappuccino. My machine is a stromfresser and built by a chainsmoking Italian, but the coffee tastes damn good, and if the climate consensus is correct, the Chinese are going to kill us all anyways.

          • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 6:45 pm #

            I didn’t suggest that you did, Nightowl.

            And thank you, but I don’t like coffee. In anything. Not even tiramisu.

          • GreenAlba October 27, 2019 at 1:22 pm #

            I also don’t have a good feeling about the Chinese. 🙂

            Well, not all of them – my neighbour’s daughter is married to a very nice young chap from Shanghai called ‘Benji’ and lives happily over there with him and their tots. I’m sure Benji wouldn’t hurt a fly. But ‘Beijing’, on the other hand… I don’t care for the cut of their jib.

            First they came for the Uighurs…

            Then they came for the Hong Kong Chinese…

            It would be interesting to be able to talk to people like Benji, to find out how things look from their perspective, but he will be spared as I’ve only seen him fleetingly and we have not been properly introduced!

      • JohnAZ October 26, 2019 at 1:00 pm #

        Power.

        It is all about power, period.

        One change going on now is the power struggle is becoming international. In our country, the Deep State has become locked into the international power struggle.

        Yes, both parties. The primary reason Trump is despised is his America, first policies are really tearing up the globalization of our country.

        Global warming is happening and may be aggravated by people. So damn what! We cannot do anything to arrest its progress. If we miraculously had no fossil fuel combustion tomorrow, it would have little effect on the CO2 concentration for decades. Look at the Ozone hole, we started to eliminate Freon in the 70’s and the hole has only shrunk a little. The South Pole is still getting zapped by UV.

        The whole climate change baloney is a sham erected by globalist power brokers. They know that change is long term, and more important,

        They know that oil supply is finite and that the fossil fuel conundrum is going to take care of itself before any benefits come from their power grab.

        A benevolent government, an oxymoron, would try to create plans to help people adjust to what is coming. I notice no one is even addressing this currently.

        Sidebar

        A report last night showed that Georgie Porgie is “investing” large amounts of money in support of city and county prosecutors campaigns for progressives. The theory is that he is trying to super liberalize the district attorneys offices to stop enforcement of the law.

        One of his recipients is Kim Foxx in Chicago.

        • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 1:19 pm #

          “A benevolent government, an oxymoron, would try to create plans to help people adjust to what is coming. I notice no one is even addressing this currently.”

          They are here. The first ‘managed retreats’ of coastal towns are being implemented by a small number of local authorities. They are just the start. I imagine the same thing is happening in some places over your way, at least in places where people haven’t got their fingers in their ears shouting la la la. My brother-in-law in NY state is a local businessman and is on the town’s planning committee for measures to protect the community against the increasing effects of sea-level rise along their stretch of the Hudson. Their house has been seriously flooded and all of their near neighbours’ houses have been condemned and/or demolished following the most recent hurricanes and floods, despite their own house having been there for almost two hundred years.

          Measures are being taken here, but not fast enough because so many people (and especially Tory politicians) refuse to openly acknowledge there’s a problem. The Tories actually reduced spending on flood defences.

          A party whose main purpose is the protection of the wealthy isn’t going to make protection of the people a priority, except where it benefits their own mates.

          • JohnAZ October 26, 2019 at 1:35 pm #

            Here the government helps but insurance does most of it.

            They are going broke trying to keep up.

            And they just keep building in the same place as required by the insurance companies.

            People should be relocating.

            The government is already $22 trillion in debt, I do not know how much help they are going to be.

          • hmuller October 26, 2019 at 5:39 pm #

            “…the town’s planning committee for measures to protect the community against the increasing effects of sea-level rise along their stretch of the Hudson.”

            You make me laugh, GA. Some brainwashed, left-wing New Yorkers form a committee over some trendy, imagined concern, therefore the problem must exist. “The ocean is coming up the Hudson River to get us! Oh my!” Utter nonsense. There’s no proof the oceans have risen beyond normal fluctuations of a couple inches..

            Was there flood damage in New York? There’s been flood damage in Missouri. Was that the ocean? There have always been floods in low lying areas around rivers when it rains too much. That’s not the ocean rising. And I think you know it wasn’t the rising ocean that damaged your brother-in-law’s house.

          • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 6:34 pm #

            hmuller

            That’s unbelievable tripe even for you. And that’s saying something.

          • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 6:42 pm #

            “There’s been flood damage in Missouri. Was that the ocean?”

            What kind of nonsense is that? Extreme weather with increased rainfall causes rivers to flood more than normal. Do you seriously need that to be explained to you?

          • hmuller October 27, 2019 at 1:10 am #

            GA

            You said you “imagine” people over our way are retreating from the coastal towns because of sea level rises.

            Usually you have such a command of facts, now you’re reduced to imagining? That would be unworthy of a 12 year old child’s AGW paper for school.

            Rivers have occasionally flooded since before people existed; do you seriously need that explained to you?

            Your brother in law and his neighbors are in a panic because they think the ocean is about to come up the Hudson River and knock on their front doors?! Bigfoot and Mothman are more likely to knock on their front doors. More so Beto looking to confiscate assault rifles.

            Your hysteria over nothing is comical.. Don’t stop; we all need the laughs.

          • GreenAlba October 27, 2019 at 2:08 pm #

            hm

            It wasn’t presented as a fact, hm, it was presented as speculation that was looking for either confirmation or its opposite. I continue to speculate that somewhere in your vast country some lonely local authority has an actual plan for (a) not rebuilding on parts of its territory where floods are increasing in frequency and/or intensity and (b) providing flood defences commensurate with the increasing risk. If ideology prevents them from doing their job, then so be it.

            “Rivers have occasionally flooded since before people existed; do you seriously need that explained to you?”

            Please don’t be disingenuous, hm. You sound ridiculous.

            “Your brother in law and his neighbors are in a panic because they think the ocean is about to come up the Hudson River and knock on their front doors?!”

            Please don’t be silly, hm.

            My brother in law and his neighbours are not in a panic. His neighbours are no longer there. Their houses, which have withstood floods in the past, have finally been felled by the increasing intensity of the storm surges earlier in the decade. They were condemned and have presumably been demolished by now.

            My BiL’s own house has been there since 1834. It’s seen a few floods. During the last two events the water was almost up to the upper floor where he was taking refuge while his family stayed elsewhere. They were concerned about him staying there but he insisted he could escape up the railway embankment at the back if the worst came to the worst. So he’s not waiting for it to knock on his front door – it’s not that polite. And they now have to raise the house in order to be able to stay there. This didn’t happen back in 1834 but it’s happening now.

            I don’t know why you insist on talking such foolishness, hm. It provides me with no laughs whatsoever. I find your whistling past the graveyard is taking on a hysterical timbre.

          • hmuller October 27, 2019 at 9:03 pm #

            GA, I assume you’re not silly enough to suggest that one flood (however bad) in one town proves worldwide climate change caused by cow farts and human generated carbon. But it almost sounded like you were.

            Frankly, I’m tired of you presenting yourself as “the great expert on AGW who may not be contradicted” because you’ve read some material. Did you recreate all the research to make sure it was true and accurate?

            Bottom line, you believe what some people tell you because you have faith in their integrity, and they tell you what you want to believe and it feeds your ego as “The Science Gal” who knows so much. .

            Yes, it is your religion whether you know it or not. AGW fills that empty hole in your heart where some people place God.

          • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 8:01 am #

            hm

            “I assume you’re not silly enough to suggest that one flood (however bad) in one town proves worldwide climate change caused by cow farts and human generated carbon. But it almost sounded like you were.”

            That’s because you don’t read what I write but what you want me to have written. The house has been there for 200 years. Only now is it experiencing the type of floods that threaten its continued existence. And no individual event – flood, drought, wildfire, polar vortex – can be blamed specifically on climate change. It’s about PATTERNS. Although the wildfires at Fort McMurray did look as if your God had a sense of irony, but we’ll stick with the facts just the same.

            ” Did you recreate all the research to make sure it was true and accurate?”

            That’s what scientists do, over and over, every day. Scientists from NASA, scientists from Exxon. Test it, recreate it, repeat the experiment, confirm the data. Over and over and over and over… And those damned results keep showing those same PATTERNS. Damn.

            The rest of your post is bollocks and worthy of Janos, which is a shame.

          • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 8:02 am #

            And if it pisses you off that I quote the science, then read the friggin’ science yourself and argue from there.

          • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 8:06 am #

            Actually I’ll correct that last bit and say it makes you sound like SSL. More accurate, I think.

            It’s what lots of religious people do – they can’t help themselves as it’s their final refuge in an argument.

            Sad, but not going to change. We just have to have high levels of tolerance and accept it.

          • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 8:09 am #

            And you seem to have forgotten that I didn’t use the subject of my Stony Point to prove the validity of climate science, because that would be stupid, but as one example of a place where some local responsible people are making plans to mitigate its effects on their town. Which you’d expect responsible people to do.

            But, like I said, you interpret what I say to suit your prejudices so I don’t expect that to change.

          • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 8:12 am #

            *of Stony Point*

    • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 12:50 pm #

      AND still no-one who can explain why the university researchers’ pursuit of grants makes them toe the supposed line, while the Exxon scientists’ need for a regular paycheck didn’t.

      Still waiting.

    • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 12:56 pm #

      I see no point in a lawsuit against Exxon. I do see a point in exposing their lies far and wide, however, and giving the scientists who worked for them all the publicity they need when pointing out that the science they furnished to Exxon predicted back in the 1980s the situation prevailing today, which is why it was hidden. It can’t be easy telling the truth to your board of directors when your paycheck depends on you telling them lies, but well done them, they did it anyway.

      And I’ve already said all climate conferences should be video-conferences. The behaviour of people involved in conferences doesn’t negate 50 years of science.

      Your straw men are tedious, brh, and I’m still waiting for your response to the enigma I presented.

      • JohnAZ October 26, 2019 at 1:26 pm #

        C’mon.

        What lies?

        Haven’t we know about pollution for two or three generations now. They were talking about CO2 in the early 1900’s. Warnings have been going out for decades that burning oil, and wood, and gas, and natural gas produces Particulate, CO and CO2.

        Look how long it took to convince the deniers that smoking was bad. Drawing particulate, CO, nicotine, CO2, arsenic etc directly into our lungs was ignored for decades.

        Deniers, that is the key.

        The tobacco industry successfully defended itself for 300 years because the did a great job of supplying the deniers with product. They enriched their products to make them more addictive, more attractive to their customers. They were successful corporations because the using deniers wanted their product. So why should they be penalized by a customer driven desire for product?

        The same goes for gasoline, heating oil, electricity, natural gas, plastics, fertilizers etc. Why should Exxon be penalized for what we the public demanded from them. They were good at their job.

        What else fits?

        How about drugs, marijuana, gambling, prostitution, pedophilia, etc? All consumer driven, demand products that are hurting people constantly. Should they be litigated.

        If people want to punish these corporations, quit buying their products.

        Yeah, right!

        Oh yeah, who gets the judicial rewards the lawyers are getting from the settlements?

        Not us!

        • GreenAlba October 26, 2019 at 6:30 pm #

          “Why should Exxon be penalized for what we the public demanded from them. ”

          They shouldn’t be penalised for selling what the public wants (did you even read my first sentence?!) – they should be castigated for lying about what they knew from their own scientists regarding AGW. Why did they engage scientists in the first place to do the research? Your post looks like one long series of straw men to me, JohnAZ, which is not your normal style.

          The tobacco industry also lied. They maintained that there was no link between tobacco smoking and cancer, long after they knew there was. That’s a different issue from selling a product that the public wants. The difference now is that people buying tobacco know about the risk of cancer – it’s in large print, with pictures, on every packet. So they’re quite entitled to sell their product with the correct information.

      • Tate October 26, 2019 at 2:30 pm #

        what situation prevailing today?

        We have weather, like we’ve always had. If you take the long view, that is, he-he.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2019 at 1:17 pm #

      Or to point out the basic identity between Clovis and the Cro-Magnon Culture of Western Europe, suggesting that they came over at some point, at least in small numbers. The Siberian (Indians) technology was very different.

      • JohnAZ October 26, 2019 at 1:29 pm #

        There has been many evolutions of civilizations in the Americas, Arizona has at least 4 or 5 of its own.

        Each collapsed in its time.

        Ask me why?

        Climate change. Drought primarily.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2019 at 2:39 pm #

          Of course. But what does that have to do with White Cro-Magnons founding America and claiming it for the White Man?

  38. wwg1wga October 26, 2019 at 11:35 am #

    WAKE UP!!

    got-truth.com/docs/WAKE%20UP.pdf

    #oathkeepers #qarmy #wwg1wga

    Q.

  39. tucsonspur October 26, 2019 at 11:54 am #

    Shoes are dropping in the night, left and right, and the foul odor of smelly feet wafts across the land. All we see are dirty socks and foot fungus, and it’ll take tons of Tide and Tinactin and political pedicures to clean up this mess.

    The Media, instead of helping to clear the air, fouls it further with its fake news flatulence.

    The nation’s nostrils are overwhelmed, but the good people know that no amount of Febreze can get rid of this stench.

    My God, even Jesus wouldn’t want to wash these feet. Lord have mercy.

    • EvelynV October 26, 2019 at 12:52 pm #

      All news is fake. Write down ten things you see about you in the room where you are reading this post. Everyone who reads what you list will form a different image than what you see.

      • JohnAZ October 26, 2019 at 1:04 pm #

        You are right. But repetition soaks information in.

        That is why a lie told enough times becomes the truth.

        And why advertising works. Supposedly it takes 13 showings to reinforce a product before it is locked in.

      • volodya October 26, 2019 at 1:12 pm #

        You have a point. Ask three witnesses to a car crash what they saw, and you’re liable to get three highly variable accounts.

        Having said that, Poland was invaded in Sep 1939, and about one on five Poles did not survive the war. European Jewry was pretty much eradicated, the Imperial Japanese Army killed uncounted millions in Asia, the US air force leveled a couple hundred square miles of Japanese cities and that’s before the two nukes.

        Some news is fake, but some isn’t and it has reverberations through history.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2019 at 1:22 pm #

          Who was left to collect the reparations then? And their children? Lots of Jews got out before the trouble started, and of those who didn’t, lots of them survived as well. Exaggeration is the Enemy of Truth.

        • malthuss October 26, 2019 at 4:47 pm #

          European Jewry was pretty much eradicated,–Who moved from their to Palestine?

          • malthuss October 26, 2019 at 4:47 pm #

            oops..there

          • Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2019 at 5:00 pm #

            The great man immediately began to do the thing which he was railing against. Lies that benefit his own group are Ok of course, great in fact.

          • hmuller October 26, 2019 at 6:24 pm #

            After WW2 we heard from many, many “Holocaust survivors”. If there were so many dead, why didn’t we hear from any of them? Yeah, explain that!

          • hmuller October 27, 2019 at 10:13 am #

            Generally, I agree with you, Malthus. But you need to do some number crunching instead of issuing broad statements.

            In 1939, there were 16.6 million Jews worldwide, and a majority of them – 9.5 million, or 57% – lived in Europe, according to DellaPergola’s estimates. By the end of World War II, in 1945, the Jewish population of Europe had shrunk to 3.8 million, or 35% of the world’s 11 million Jews. About 6 million European Jews were killed during the Holocaust, according to common estimates.
            pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/02/09/europes-jewish-population/

            So to summarize, there were 3.8 million Jews alive in Europe after WW2. Some stayed in Europe, some went to the USA, some went to Israel, some went elsewhere. Today, an estimated 1.4 million Jews remain in Europe.

            Does this solve your mystery?

          • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 8:21 am #

            That’s good, hm. But I feel you should take the route that you insist on in climate change matters and go do the research personally, instead of believing what other researchers tell you. 🙂

          • hmuller October 28, 2019 at 9:12 am #

            But if my reference source was lying, then everything I wrote is bollocks. My point which you’ve never quite understood GA:

            We think we know shit, but we’re just repeating what others tell us. We trust they’re right, but we don’t really know.

          • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 12:22 pm #

            Far too simplistic, hm, and serving your agenda.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2019 at 1:23 pm #

        The balanced pov we’ve come to expect from Evie. If she was sincere about that, she wouldn’t have any political viewpoints at all, but oh she does!

      • Nightowl October 26, 2019 at 4:15 pm #

        The second statement is true, but does not validate the claim in the first statement.

  40. Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2019 at 2:37 pm #

    breitbart.com/europe/2019/10/25/lgbt-split-critics-blast-new-lgb-alliance-transphobic/

    British Queers suddenly realize that the Revolution is leaving them behind – before they’ve received everything they have coming to them, like affirmative action perhaps. And perhaps the biggest one of all: unfettered access to the young. They moan about how kids are being pressured to change their gender, but they never had any problem with pressuring kids to change their sexual orientation. In other words, it’s much harder to perv kids one way if they’re being perved another by a more connected group.

    Thank God for Breitbart and the Daily Mail. I mean Alba’s not going to tell you this stuff. Even if she heard about it, she wouldn’t comprehend it, always trying to stick to the moving line of the dialectic as she does.

    Very good news. Hopefully this division jumps over the pond to us as well.

    • Tate October 26, 2019 at 3:08 pm #

      Tate: pronouns, he, him.

      It’s pathetic really. What kind of a world do they think they’re creating? It won’t survive white shariah, I can tell you that.

  41. Tate October 26, 2019 at 3:53 pm #

    Can someone please explain to me how the folks who wear the funny underwear are so cucked. We have these two U.S. senators from Utah, Mike Lee & Mittens Romney, both of them totally debauched lapdogs to the oligarchs — oh wait, one of them is an oligarch! or at least a wannabe — who want to dissolve our borders & let in a bunch of hindoos to take good-paying white-collar jobs from native-born Americans.

    from Western Voices:

    “GOP Sen. Mike Lee Thanks India’s Visa-Workers for Pressuring U.S. Senators to Export U.S. Jobs

    A GOP Senator met with more than 100 Indian contract workers in Congress and publicly urged them to lobby U.S. Senators for passage of his legislation to give citizenship to more Indian workers who push middle-class Americans out of college-graduate jobs.

    Utah Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) made the request on Thursday, shortly his fourth bid to pass his S.286 green-card giveaway bill. The bill was quickly blocked by an objection from a Democratic Senator — while the other 52 GOP Senators did not speak out. “We’re now down to one objector, just one,” Lee claimed, adding:

    What we don’t know is how long any one objector will continue to object to something that does as much good as this bill does while doing no harm. It is pretty hard to do that … I’m going to have to keep doing it until I lose my voice.

    “Over time, [objectors] tend to get tired of objecting, in part, because they hear from good people like you who tell them this legislation is good, this legislation needs to pass,” Lee told the Indian workers, most of whom voluntarily took white-collar jobs, salaries and even careers from American graduates in exchange for their employers’ promises to give them green cards.”

    • Felagund762 October 26, 2019 at 4:15 pm #

      Mr. Kunstler, you have stated several times that you think it possible that political disorder in 2020 could be so great, no election would take place. What do you think that such a scenario would look like? What kind of political disorder are you imagining? Thanks for any reply.

      • elysianfield October 26, 2019 at 7:14 pm #

        “What kind of political disorder are you imagining? Thanks for any reply.”

        The kinetic variety, I reckon….

      • Walter B October 26, 2019 at 9:59 pm #

        Is an election taking place and the other side fighting tooth and nail and doing nothing else towards impeachment for years on end not so dissimilar to the election not taking place int the first place? If an election falls in the forest and no one hears it does it make any noise?

  42. SoftStarLight October 26, 2019 at 4:19 pm #

    Incidentally, Maximilien Robespierre detested Atheism and the fervent dechristianization of society unleashed by the Revolution. Not so much because he liked Christianity, but because he saw the value in the ability of religion to organize and compel social behavior. So he created a new religion in the Cult of the Supreme Being. His new religion while recognizing a higher power was more focused on the public and ostentatious display of virtue. His idea of virtue seems to parallel today’s prevailing idea of virtue – Social/Racial/Environmental Justice. His opponents within the Revolution had set up their own religion too called the Cult of Reason. It was an atheistic religion centered on the worship of Reason, Secularism, and Humanisim. The parallels between these aspects of the French Revolution and today’s Establisment is amazing and fascinating. What is clear is that religion is inevitable in any human society despite the opposite viewpoint often put foward. And where a vacuum exists a new religion will arise.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2019 at 4:24 pm #

      Janos, he, him: The Cult of Reason took over Cathedrals, installing whores on the altars to be worshiped as the Goddess of Reason.

      • malthuss October 26, 2019 at 4:50 pm #

        I think Truth Factory or Daisy Cousens has a clip of little girls doing a water ceremony in a temple…very strange.

      • BackRowHeckler October 26, 2019 at 4:55 pm #

        Janos

        You are a Classicist

        -Marlin, he, him

        • Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2019 at 5:04 pm #

          The wonderful thing is that Goat Island will always be there, a shining island on a hill. You can dream about going – it will become your personal Mecca.

          It will be there long after we are just dust. But in the spiritual sense, we (in some form) will still be existent when Goat Island and the rest of the universe is just star dust.

          • BackRowHeckler October 26, 2019 at 5:45 pm #

            Oh, I’ve been to Goat Island; at the time I was not aware of its significance, either as the haunted place where 26 pirates were hung at once in 1724, or as a destination for my unscientific expedition to check the efficacy of GW fanatics claims the sea levels are rising.

            I have it on good authority that Goat Island is still extant. Described as ‘low lying’ nearly 300 years ago, by all accounts it should be submerged by now. I have to see it with my own eyes, I know. I’ll get there.

            Marlin, he, him

          • Tate October 26, 2019 at 8:44 pm #

            Goat Island: it’s an idea, man, not a place! That’s what Charley Kirk of TPUSA says about the USA. Except Israel is a place, never forget that.

          • BackRowHeckler October 26, 2019 at 9:28 pm #

            You may be right Tate, Goat Island, like Xanadu, Emerald City, Atlantis, or the fabled City of Gold the Spaniard spent 400 years searching for in South America, but never found … a magical place where all needs are met, all questions answered, all fears allayed. We’re all searching for our own Goat Island.

      • SoftStarLight October 26, 2019 at 6:25 pm #

        And so does Pop Culture today.

        • hmuller October 27, 2019 at 11:28 am #

          SSL, you reminded me of a story about Robespierre.

          After Louis the 16th was coronated in 1774, he and the Mrs took a carriage ride around Paris to be showered with affection. Of course, with all those speeches, they were running behind schedule.

          Finally, they came to an orphanage where the brightest boy had memorized a speech in their honor. As the boy kneeled in the mud, the carriage drove by without stopping. Orphans were a low priority. That humiliated boy was Robespierre.

          Moral of the story: Payback is a bitch.

          • SoftStarLight October 27, 2019 at 12:27 pm #

            Very interesting! I didn’t know that. But the moral of the story makes perfect sense.

  43. Janos Skorenzy October 26, 2019 at 4:48 pm #

    JS: Jim’s (a different one) opinion about one possible option: Trump never leaves office, crushing the mongrels who seek to destroy him once the campaign of slander fails.

    Sixteen more years
    Trump when addressing the masses does not explicitly cover the issues covered in this blog, but when addressing the shale conference, addressing the merchant elite, he touched on them:

    He tells the shale industry that they should run shale because the merchant class should have the property rights they need to do the day to day running of the ordinary stuff: “you make this country run”..

    Trump hopes to continue ruling beyond 2024: “Sixteen more years”

    The way the wind blows, looks increasingly possible. Trump anticipates that his opponents are going to resort to violence, and is confident that once open violence is on the table, he wins. His opponents are making a big mistake.

    The left increasingly doubt that they can win 2020, so are determined to remove the president. They know that attempting to remove the president by following precedent and the constitutional process of impeachment would be a disaster for them, so left’s plan for impeachment is color revolution: escalating defiance of the rules until they finally impeach Trump in an irregular fashion contrary to the constitution. But this only maintains the appearance of legality and precedent if Republicans go along with it.

    The color revolution script is “he is weak, weaker, weaker, he is falling, he is falling, falling, falling, falling, he has fallen”. And if he has already fallen no need to hold a merely formal impeachment. Trump is countering the color revolution script by talking up unity and greatness, and by and large, most of the cuckservatives are reluctantly falling into line.

    Color revolutions are apt to turn into genocidal holy war when the other side does not play along with the script. The “he has fallen” announcement is apt to be made in flagrant defiance of reality, as happened in Syria. Actual fighting then ensues between the new “government” and the “fallen” government. Not that I am betting on civil war before the 2020 election, but the Democrats are on a path where they either fail, or proceed to civil war. Likely they will accept failing this time, whereupon the older smarter whiter Democrats lose power to the crazies, who complain than the saner Democrats stabbed the crazier Democrats in the back, as of course they will have done if we are to postpone Civil War II till after 2020.

    If they go with impeachment according to the rules and precedent, will totally blow up in their faces. If they back off from impeachment, the left will devour them. If they follow the color revolution script to the bitter end, irregular impeachment proceedings followed by premature proclamation of decisive victory and irregular impeachment, then Civil War II in place of the 2020 election.

    We probably will not have Civil War II in place of the 2020 election, but everywhere around the American Hegemony, elite civility is collapsing, and they are playing with tactics that bring us closer to civil war. in many places in the American hegemony the elite are maneuvering to start arresting each other, everywhere political events are deviating further and further from established precedent and established legality. It seems too soon for Civil War II before the 2020 election, but the path to that is on the table. If I was in Trump’s shoes, I would aim to delay Civil War II till after 2020, but events are out of control. The saner Democrats need to get their crazies in line, and are so far not doing so, because no enemies to the left, no friends to the right. Irregular impeachment, if followed all the way to “he has fallen” would result in Civil War II considerably sooner than I expect. They have to capitulate by giving him the regular impeachment process in accord with precedent and the constitution, or just put impeachment on the back burner, and get on with normal legislative business like passing the the new trade deal, whereupon they get torn apart by their crazies.

    The ideal outcome would be a short and not very bloody Civil War II, followed by a purge of the presidency and the military. But a purge will have limited effectiveness so long as we have no replacement for our current state religion, which will continue to exercise religious power even if it temporarily suffers major losses of presidential power. A nastier civil war and a more effective purge will create a smoking crater where the current state religion used to be. A gentler solution would be that progressivism falls apart, as communism did, when movement towards ever lefter is off the table, and falls apart internally rather than being converted into a smoking crater, and then we install a more stable state religion based on the ancient traditions of the west. Sulla did the smoking crater solution, but the smoking crater remained. Suharto did the smoking crater solution, but he had an existing state religion ready to roll.

    Because Trump has few people, a smoking crater this soon would be a problem.

    Jim at Jim.com

    JS: What can I say (except I love the image of my own voice?) except that Jim is a reasonable man? Can weaker Conservatives get behind this or they going to cling to the illusions of Robert’s Rules of Order? Dudes, the Black Guns ultimately decide – but only if you have the guts to use them. Traitor Mitt is going for the gold, along with the rest of the Rinos and Antifa. Can a coalition of sane Democrats and Patriotic Republicans see the Light and push them back? With a little help from the Marine Reserves?

    • SoftStarLight October 26, 2019 at 6:41 pm #

      It must be the case that Pierre Delecto and people who say they are Conservative like him benefit from Progressivism since they fight for it. Progressivism being the current State Religion and all.

      • Tate October 26, 2019 at 9:10 pm #

        Haha. Knew that Mittens was in the news recently for something but forgot what. Pierre Delecto!

        Tate: he, him

        • SoftStarLight October 27, 2019 at 2:57 pm #

          Yes, that name is actually kinda creepy. I think Pierre Delecto is the real Mittens which is why he is scary.

    • tucsonspur October 26, 2019 at 7:24 pm #

      So that’s good, Trump will be that much more aware of the danger he faces. All the Dems have to do is continue their process of erosion. Another Republican becomes a TWAT. Then another. Then another.

      Thank God it’s a sorry lot of Dem candidates. But if the erosion continues, it just may be anybody but Trump. Who’s going to use the ‘Iron Heel’ ( not Jack London’s) and the Blade of Steel? Almost 250 years of ‘Democratic’ tradition and memories of the Founding Fathers will make us falter, and “Thus conscience does make cowards of us all; And thus the native hue of resolution
      Is sicklied o’er with the pale cast of thought; And enterprises of great pith and moment, with this regard, their currents turn awry, and lose the name of action.”

      I see nobody, Trump included, living up to the Mountainous Moment. The Dems will live down to it, and maybe take it from below.

  44. BackRowHeckler October 26, 2019 at 5:36 pm #

    I know some of you here are from NYC. JHK, Tusconspur …

    I’m a big fan of the NY Post. I’ve always loved tabloids anyway.

    Anyhoo, there’s some real craziness going on down there, in the streets … something evil has been unloosed not seen since the 1970s.

    It seems the lid is off, and the city has turned savage. Gangs of young community members roam the city beating people up, on the subway, at bus stops, in diners, on the sidewalk, people sucker punched, victims of unprovoked beatdowns, elderly women attacked and beaten, (73 yo NBC director surrounded and attacked yesterday) woman pushed onto RR tracks last nite. Most of the victims appear to be white elderly people, or women. The assailants are young blacks, travelling in packs, like wolves. DiBlasio got to be mayor by campaigning against the police; maybe this is what he wants I don’t know. Elderly Jewish people are being attacked in their neighborhoods just going about their business. Even the police are being targeted. For a city to work there has to be at least a measure of mutual trust on the streets, a sense of order and safety, not constant fear of attack, which is what’s happening … NY appears to be devolving into bloody chaos, a Hobbsian world of all against all.

    Marlin he, him

    • tucsonspur October 26, 2019 at 6:16 pm #

      Yes, it’s bad and dangerous. The Left has destroyed cities all across the nation from San Francisco to NY. It continues to spread. Next month Tucson is going to vote on whether or not it becomes a sanctuary city. There’s no end to it.

      The NY Post is famous for its headlines.

      Long live Bernie Goetz!

      • malthuss October 27, 2019 at 10:43 am #

        would legal mexicans vote for this?

    • SoftStarLight October 26, 2019 at 6:45 pm #

      In the end Diversity disables mutual trust. At least it seems that way.

    • toktomi October 26, 2019 at 7:28 pm #

      @BRH

      IT is progressing but painfully slowly. It occurs to me at this moment that apparently the slower the descent, the greater the suffering.

      Hey, hey, “hasten the collapse and mitigate the effects”, let’s all cheer!

      ~toktomi~

    • JohnAZ October 27, 2019 at 12:55 am #

      Remember:

      Doing the same thing over and over and over, getting the same result, then doing it again and expecting a different result.

      The definition of insanity.

      Also the Democratic Party and socialism.

      When WE do it, it will work right!

      The definition of insanity.

      The Dems are insane!

    • malthuss October 27, 2019 at 10:44 am #

      Jewish people are being attacked in their neighborhoods —

      who let the dogs out?

      Need I post about chickens coming home?

      • elysianfield October 27, 2019 at 12:29 pm #

        Malthuss,
        Well…spit it out! Are they being attacked by dogs or chickens?

        “I GOTS TO KNOW”!

      • BackRowHeckler October 27, 2019 at 3:20 pm #

        Malth these are mostly elderly people being assaulted on the streets of Brooklyn. They deserve safety in their own neighborhoods no matter what their heritage is.

        Brh

  45. Pucker October 26, 2019 at 5:37 pm #

    Happy Diwali!

  46. Pucker October 26, 2019 at 5:47 pm #

    Paganism

    Why is it that the Feminists want to perform a castration ritual? Which one of their gods demands abortion, gun confiscation, and castration libations?

    • Tate October 26, 2019 at 9:19 pm #

      Which one of their gods doesn’t?

  47. Pucker October 26, 2019 at 6:17 pm #

    Should Trump lead his supporters on a night time torch-lit procession? What do you think of torch lit processions? I’ve never participated in a torch lit procession, but I bet that it’d be a “Hoot’n Annie”? You could do it during a Black Out. Aren’t we starting to see the new phenomena of “Black Outs” in the US because of the neglect of the infrastructure and/ or some cyber attack by the Russians or Chinese or some homeless Joker bloke living under a bridge with his laptop? You’ll read news reports about another Black Out, and no one seems to notice. All of the problems tend to be blamed on the Russians, the Chinese, and White Christians with guns. You’ll turn on the TV “News” and there is Rachel Maddow or Hillary or Beto manifesting another Trump Castration fantasy. If they could only just cut off Trump and Putin’s iron balls, then the gods would be appeased….

    • SoftStarLight October 26, 2019 at 6:49 pm #

      I also find it interesting that the planned blackouts no less aren’t gaining more attention. Maybe that is going to be the new normal everywhere and these are just rehearsals?

      • JohnAZ October 27, 2019 at 12:51 am #

        Rehearsals for The Long Emergency!

        • malthuss October 27, 2019 at 10:44 am #

          planned ’emergency’–A 2030.

      • elysianfield October 27, 2019 at 12:32 pm #

        SSL,
        Rehearsals? I mentioned earlier that they were a social experiment.

        Gavin Newsome, Twittered that the blackouts are “unacceptable”…and it was his public utilities commission that ok’d the paradigm.

        My loathing for Newsome cannot be sounded.

        • SoftStarLight October 27, 2019 at 2:53 pm #

          Ah ok. Is it strange to you that he said paradigm? It would seem like that indicates a new way of doing things. It’s very sinister and your sentiments about Mr. Newsome understandable. Sometimes his smile makes me think he is an incarnation of the devil. I’m sure that’s unreasonable though.

          • elysianfield October 27, 2019 at 6:44 pm #

            ” Sometimes his smile makes me think he is an incarnation of the devil. I’m sure that’s unreasonable though.”

            SSL

            Well, to paraphrase Mohammed Ali…”No devil ever called me ‘nigger’….

            It may seem an unreasonable comparison, but I would further say that no devil ever shut my power off….

        • malthuss October 27, 2019 at 8:22 pm #

          ya know about bologna? as in the Bologna family, killed on
          thanksgiving?

    • stelmosfire October 26, 2019 at 11:05 pm #

      Pucker, “White Christians with guns”.
      I went and saw a movie “The Reliant” Thursday night. I have not been to the cinema in 20 years. A one night showing. Who does that with a movie? The place was packed. I was raised a strict catholic and I am no longer religious but I have to say the movie was pretty good. 2nd amendment fortification. Look it up.

  48. Pucker October 26, 2019 at 6:25 pm #

    Together with Gun Confiscation, the effort to overthrow and to smear Male Western History and Male Western Civilization is all part of the Female and Beta Male Progressive Castration Fantasy, right?

    It’s all about Castration.

    • Pucker October 26, 2019 at 6:31 pm #

      The pulling down of statues is a subconscious act of severing the Penis, right? They find it very emotionally satisfying.

      • Tate October 27, 2019 at 1:01 pm #

        There’s been a rise in transgenderism, if you’ve noticed. Makes sense, the emasculation of the Patriarchy.

  49. Pucker October 26, 2019 at 6:37 pm #

    It takes 6 months to get a construction permit and years to build anything. People are just giving up. This is what happens when you let Women cut off the balls and try to run everything. Everyone and the Society is Castrated.

  50. Pucker October 26, 2019 at 6:56 pm #

    Castration: “I’m With Her.”

    “I’m Wither.”

    Without balls, the Society withers….

  51. sunburstsoldier October 26, 2019 at 7:00 pm #

    What is called “political correctness” no doubt represents an over-simplified and seriously distorted narrative of reality. My question is how deeply has this narrative stigmatized human creativity in the various domains and disciplines of Western culture? Can one be “politically correct” and genuinely creative at one and the same time? Genuine creativity and the myriad innovations it spawns is all that stands between us and the inexorable force of entropy as expressed in the Second Law of Thermodynamics. If we are hamstrung by politically correct beliefs and assumptions to the point we can no longer engage in a quest to grasp the true nature of reality how can we creatively adapt to the “long emergency” as it unfolds through time?

    • tucsonspur October 26, 2019 at 7:45 pm #

      Political Correctness was/is a Black Art in and of itself, practiced by the Left. Of course art can be influenced and even controlled, but in the long run that’s like trying to catch smoke or squeeze water.

      PC is powerful, but not that powerful. Great art will always emerge, in spite of it.

      • sunburstsoldier October 26, 2019 at 7:59 pm #

        Yet do we see any great art in our times?

        • sunburstsoldier October 26, 2019 at 8:20 pm #

          And don’t forget, creativity is not limited to the domain of the arts. There needs to be a ceaseless outflow of creative innovations in all domains of culture if our civilization is to address the challenges inherent in life. Failure to address such challenges is currently what is at issue behind the “long emergency” .

        • tucsonspur October 26, 2019 at 8:30 pm #

          Maybe say, since the forties or so? Nothing compared to the ‘old’ works. But there is some good stuff. I like Bob Timberlake, Hopper, Wyeth, among others.

          It may have been Hughes who said that, “Modern art is fatally circumscribed by the facile irony and mocking facetiousness of camp.” Applies to a lot of it.

          • sunburstsoldier October 26, 2019 at 8:45 pm #

            Which is another way of saying art is no longer art in the traditional sense but a parody of it. Art no longer serves the purpose of bringing beauty and deep significance to life. Nor does it serve to visualize high ideals that advance humankind and lead us to “higher ground”.

          • tucsonspur October 27, 2019 at 6:55 pm #

            Eggsactly! But don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater. Good Art is still out there, even if hard to find.

        • Tate October 27, 2019 at 2:35 am #

          Creativity is surprisingly enough only weakly associated with intelligence. It takes creativity to make original art but it doesn’t necessarily result in intelligent art. At one time art was the exclusive preserve of the cognitive elite. Now, all manner of people have the means & many of them are creative & some of them are intelligent but it’s a statistical certainty that most of them are not. So what we see in today’s art world is the result. Creative shit.

          • sunburstsoldier October 27, 2019 at 11:13 am #

            I see creativity different than most people. For me creativity is a manifestation of our true nature, our Being as a whole. Once we have established a political framework which permits and even encourages the individual to freely pursue truth wherever it may lead without being unduly handicapped by established beliefs held by the existing status quo, we will set loose a powerful surge of creativity capable of profoundly transforming all of our socio-cultural institutions.

  52. Pucker October 26, 2019 at 7:12 pm #

    It’s probably just a matter of time before some Asshole Politician advocates invading some country to grab the “ Dialithm Crystals” before the Russians and the Klingons do? I read somewhere that the subconscious human mind can’t distinguish between Reality and what’s on TV. To the subconscious mind it’s the same. Americans watch an average of 5 hours of TV per day. They’re probably so whacked out that they can’t tell the difference between a Reality TV Show host and a Russian Asset or POTUS?

  53. Pucker October 26, 2019 at 7:48 pm #

    The Deplorables think that God sent Trump to save America. The Left thinks that Trump is a “Russian Asset”. I don’t know what to make of that? They tried to smear Jill Stein and Tulsi Gabbard as “Russian Assets”, but that appears to have finally crossed the line of credulity and has fallen flat. Trump is a real estate developer, reality TV show host, and a casino operator. Trump was running that Trump University promising to make desperate people rich flipping real estate. Do you remember the TV commercials many years ago by the Vietnamese refugee, David Vang, who was selling his get rich quick flipping California real estate scam? The TV commercials showed a skinny swarthy Vietnamese bloke on a big yacht hugging very Hot tanned white women in fluorescent bikinis. What a weird society….

    • Tate October 26, 2019 at 9:18 pm #

      Trump lent his name to it, & promoted it, but he wasn’t really running it.

      • JohnAZ October 27, 2019 at 1:04 am #

        If he had been running it, it would have succeeded.

        • Tate October 27, 2019 at 2:26 am #

          The ‘get rich in real estate’ come-on has been around ever since I’ve been breathing. It seems to wax & wane in about 8-9 year cycles. It takes about that long for a new crop of suckers to come in/

          • James Kuehl October 27, 2019 at 9:26 am #

            Tate,
            Despite what I suspect is the futility of explaining my reasoning your confrontational tone prompts me to defend myself. (I’m not sure why the “Reply” feature is no longer available above.)
            First, you should read “The Long Emergency” and “Too Much Magic.” If you have already, read them again because they clearly didn’t sink in.
            To explain my contention that we should be working toward equitable distribution of dwindling resources, here’s the short course.
            The exploitation of oil in the late 19th century began a rapid acceleration of agriculture and trade, which in turn began an exponential global population surge. The increased energy and products from refined oil allowed us to cultivate and irrigate more land, nitrogen fertilizers and pesticides further increased output. Mechanized pumping allowed us to retrieve vase amounts of water from aquifers. With the depletion of oil, potable water sources, and arable land we are on the verge of increasing starvation and economic collapse. Unrest in Latin America and the Middle East are manifestations of this tension. Without a global effort to define our current resource situation and a cooperative plan to ensure people worldwide have enough food to eat and clean water to drink the conflicts over these resources will become more violent.

          • Tate October 27, 2019 at 12:27 pm #

            James, I’ve read TLE, not the other one. The reply feature isn’t available after about the fourth level “in,” I think.

            TLE sunk in, although nothing in it was new to me. I consider all of this a dilemma, not a problem. A problem can be solved, a dilemma cannot. Human beings cannot escape being alive. It’s an ineradicable feature of life that it grows. It’s true that we as a species are something special in the history of life, but I don’t think we’re special enough to control our growth to any appreciable degree. I can choose to live a frugal existence but that’s just because of who I am, & where I am in this journey we’re on, not because I’m trying to save the planet.

            Others, especially younger people, may consider it a crusade, but I’m very skeptical that it will be enough. Ultimately as you must have noticed, this just draws ridicule, because, frankly, most people are not going to entertain the notion of allowing their families to freeze in the dark to save any abstract vision of Humanity.

            Furthermore, we’re coming at this from entirely different perspectives. I come from a libertarian background. Although I’ve rejected much of libertarianism in recent years, I still do believe that the pie is not a static quantity, or at least not in the simplistic way some people seem to think. Therefore your talk of ‘divvying up what remains’ seems… let’s just call it ‘premature,’ to me. Since you responded in a serious manner, I am returning the favor & trying to be respectful.

          • James Kuehl October 27, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

            Tate,
            Your reply below is thoughtful, lucid, and respectful. I enjoy exchanges with people who have different perspectives. Your point is well taken that my view tends toward the naive despite my advanced years. That 1960s-era idealism is deep rooted. Best wishes to you as we all work to make our way through this thing.

      • Majella October 27, 2019 at 2:39 am #

        JohnAZ said earlier that he took 93% of it. That’s hardly ‘lending’ his name.

        JohnAZ, if he HAD been running it, it would have folded a lot earlier.

        • JohnAZ October 27, 2019 at 10:47 am #

          Just like when he bailed out NYC with their ice rink boondoggle. Just like when he transformed a deteriorating post office in DC into a great hotel. Just like his making success stories of golf courses in a deteriorating market.

          Your misinformation name calling campaign is becoming humorous. Maybe we should all take a shot of tequila every time you attack Trump with your BS.

          • Majella October 27, 2019 at 7:28 pm #

            JohnAZ – sorry, but’s your increasingly manic level of TrumpWorship that is becoming comical & what BS? In this particular instance, I was referencing a post that YOU had made. FFS.

    • JohnAZ October 27, 2019 at 1:03 am #

      Trump was a real estate guy, reality TV success, and casino owner. And educational brand for 5 years.

      He just happened to buy up a lot of bad investments right in the teeth of the 2008 recession.

      He survived and did very well in a very bad Obama economy.

      You anti-Trumpers calling him a bad businessman, how many billions do you have in your ledger?

      • malthuss October 27, 2019 at 10:47 am #

        I am not a Trump hater.
        But lets look at facts, camly.

        However his father was in the biz and worth huge money [30M in 1960?] ..so he had a huge start….AND DT declared bankruptcy how many times?

        • hmuller October 27, 2019 at 11:05 am #

          Good points, Malthus. Gerald Celente would say “Trump was born on third base and thought he hit a triple”.

          But when you hire an exterminator do you care about his ancestry and financial history? I don’t love Trump. I just want him to kick ass on the deep state globalist mafia. I’m still waiting to see the jail time and executions. If they need someone to beat Hillary to death with a baseball bat, call me.

        • Tate October 27, 2019 at 12:42 pm #

          How many individuals in Trump’s shoes would have just wasted their lives in a dissolute, sybaritic existence, or gone into some Holy Cause to affray their supposed ‘guilt’ for being born with the silver spoon in their mouth? You see the results every day in the wayward children of the rich. Trump didn’t do that. He played the cards he had to make a big pile an even bigger pile. Then he stormed the political heights to force the entire country to look deep into what it has become. No one can deny that Trump is the Man of the Age.

        • JohnAZ October 27, 2019 at 1:24 pm #

          DT himself declared bankruptcy exactly 0 times. His corporations declared bankruptcy associated with the real estate idiocy leading to 2008. Along with a lot of other folks.

          By the way, since 2008 he has become a billionaire on his own, become very competitive in the hotel and resort business, run for President and beaten the most corrupt group in American history.

          What have you done, lately?

          And yeah, he got a start from his old man, mostly through pass through tax breaks. That is one of the things that NY is trying to hang on the Trump corporation now.

      • Majella October 27, 2019 at 7:30 pm #

        Probably as many billoins as you, JohnAZ.

  54. KesaAnna October 26, 2019 at 9:36 pm #

    ” If the network of agencies like the CIA and FBI, with their manpower and money and knowledge, can’t do better than this, then why are they there? ” — Volodya

    Prosaically , at the basic level , it’s a jobs program.

    There simply are not enough hamburger – flipper and toilet – scrubber jobs to go around —

    — hamburger – flipper and toilet – scrubber jobs THAT PAY WELL.

    For that last reason , it is also a patronage system / scheme ; Like Tammany Hall.

    ” if they couldn’t get rid of Trump, even with decades of institutional knowledge (supposedly) of dirty tricks, what good are they against foreign adversaries? ” — Volodya

    When your mother or father , brother or sister , wife or husband , or BFF , really fucked you over good , why couldn’t you see it coming ?

    After all , you had all that expert and inside knowledge , and a ton of experience to draw from.

    I’m not calling you stupid , or really criticizing you in any way.

    The aggregate result of 500 years of revolutions , beginning with Luther’s Protestant Reformation ,

    has been that the state has convinced nine out of ten people , and a good number of them intelligent and educated people , that the state has magical powers.

    The state does not have magical powers .

    Not uncommonly , what does not work for you , still wouldn’t work for you if you had a fancy title , a fat wallet , and wiretaps on all your loved ones phones.

    • volodya October 27, 2019 at 2:07 pm #

      KesaAnna, no, the state doesn’t have magical powers. 

      But it should have a smidgen of common sense, which was apparently in dire short supply during this entire Mueller-Russia-gate fiasco. All this means is that if you do not have the goods on a winner of a presidential election, and if you know you have got no hope in hell of framing him, then don’t go down the road of making accusations you have no hope in hell of backing up. This much isn’t rocket-science. 

      From the perspective of foreign powers this was laugh-inducing. From the perspective of the ordinary American, it was gag-inducing. 

      Even if the Russia collusion story was nothing more than a pretext for digging up dirt on Trump for the purpose of bumping him from office, are we to now understand that they were unsuccessful with such an individual? This is somebody who ran that preposterous Trump University, and who had multiple bankruptcies under his belt. And they couldn’t find anything? Nothing? Not ONE thing? So Trump is as clean as a hound’s tooth? Then he must be a truly admirable individual. When he’s done as President I’m going to apply for a job with him. 

      And they couldn’t make shit up? I tell people to believe their own eyes, so I should take my own advice, but this whole episode strains belief. 

  55. BackRowHeckler October 26, 2019 at 10:05 pm #

    Well, at State U, students are all stirred up over Climate Extinction.

    A few quotes:

    “I cannot plan for my future, because scientists say we have just 10 years to reverse course. Every second I am not fighting climate change feels like an abdication of my responsibility to the people of our planet.”

    “The warming earth will supercharge storms, droughts and wild fires and create a mass refugee crises”.

    Climate change … has reduced me to a constant state of existential crises, and I know many of my friends feel the same way”.

    “As a white man living in the US, I am relatively insulated from from the worst effects. As Greta would say, I am one of the lucky ones.”

    So last week a group of activist students staged a sit-in at the President’s office and issued a bunch of demands — declare a climate emergency, form a ‘climate council’, replace University vehicles with EVs etc, a lot of college BS that doesn’t amount to much. One thing they did is get a promise from the admin to cancel a natgas plant that was slated to be built at UConn. The campus has grown 300% in the past 25 years and the current plant was outdated and not sufficient to meet the energy needs of all the new construction. Believe me it gets cold out there in winter, and winter lasts a long time. Without that new plant I don’t know how they’re going to heat the place and provide hot water for roughly 50,000 people. What happens when pipes start freezing, then burting behind walls? How will the dorms and classrooms get heated? I suppose they’ll just have to make do with what they have. They could try bolting up solar panels but sometimes in winter we don’t see the sun for weeks at a time. Bonfires in the common, there’s plenty of trees to cut and stack? Maybe that’s what it will come down to.

    brh

    • KesaAnna October 26, 2019 at 10:57 pm #

      I suppose they are going to college to learn how to draw water up from a well and tote it into the domicile in buckets ?

      And to learn how to hew wood , and manage a wood lot ?

      And to learn how to wash out their clothes by hand in a tub ?

      But then medieval peasants knew how to do all of those things without going to college……

      And after all of that , medieval peasants did not have the time or energy left over for paperwork , or social engineering.

      • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 8:51 am #

        “And to learn how to wash out their clothes by hand in a tub ?”

        Not sure why anyone would need to ‘learn’ that. I did it for years even for a while when I had my first child. Terry nappies and everything. Soaked them, scrubbed them, rinsed them, wrung them by hand. Washed the sheets and towels by hand in the bath. Same process.

        Admittedly I then had a little drum centrifuge thingy that spun them, but that just saves time in drying them. They can be hung up hand-wrung if necessary or run through a manual wringer (a mangle, as we call it here, but I believe that means something more sophisticated in the US). Or rolled in a towel the way you’d do with a a hand-washed delicate woollen jumper or silk blouse even these days.

        Pain in the neck but hardly a skill that would take long to ‘learn’.

        • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 12:26 pm #

          The problem would be getting hot water.

    • JohnAZ October 27, 2019 at 1:08 am #

      BRH

      The real problem with the folks acting like idiots re climate change.

      Ignorant people are easy to lead, tell them a good story and they will follow you anywhere.

      Mob reaction is always a result of ignorance, rationality is the enemy of those seeking power.

      • Majella October 27, 2019 at 7:31 pm #

        “Ignorant people are easy to lead, tell them a good story and they will follow you anywhere.

        Mob reaction is always a result of ignorance, rationality is the enemy of those seeking power.”

        That sure worked for Trump.

        • SoftStarLight October 27, 2019 at 8:47 pm #

          And it worked for Barack Hussein Obama and the media didn’t challenge him.

    • malthuss October 27, 2019 at 10:52 am #

      Chcok–Santa Monica College–Corsair newspaper. Last week.

      Horror at confederate emblem [not the flag itself] and
      cover story–NO MORE COLUMBUS DAY…Indigenous day.

      Haha..wonder if the cannibalism and 20k murdered in a day for the sun god will be mentioned.
      One ‘mexican in merica’ is quoted as saying he is proud to be a mexican, due to the celeb.
      the nitwit doesnt know there was no mexico before the Euros arrived, just a bunch of cannibals and warring tribes.

      thecorsaironline.com/corsair/confederate-flag-placard-sparks-controversy

      thecorsaironline.com/corsair/indigenous-peoples-day

      you can also see the prez..a black woman who was a diversity counselor…our popo chief retired after 5 years, 10 million dollar parachute.

      • BackRowHeckler October 27, 2019 at 12:00 pm #

        After the Civil War quite a few ex Confederate soldiers migrated to LA. I believe there was even a hospital and retirement home set up for them.around the turn of the last century. So it’s not surprising there’s a few Confederate symbols left around, specially in cemeteries.

        The hysteria attached to the Confederacy at this late date is laughable. It reminds one of ISIS fanatics smashing ancient statuary in Timbuktu, or Taliban blowing up Buddhist monuments in Afghanistan. What can one say except, “What a bunch of Dooshbags”.

        -Marlin: him, he

      • SoftStarLight October 27, 2019 at 12:14 pm #

        It seems strange that an Indigenous Peoples day celebration would end with that Bryan Sanchez guy wanting to be the best Mexican he can be. Isn’t Mexico’s history steeped in some very brutal colonial history itself? And the Mexican identity is really all about jumbling Spanish and Indian culture and blood. Being Mexican seems opposite of indigenous. Indians don’t even have reserved land in Mexico like they do in America.

        • malthuss October 27, 2019 at 4:22 pm #

          clusterf—-

          • SoftStarLight October 27, 2019 at 8:43 pm #

            It really is!

  56. Pucker October 26, 2019 at 10:10 pm #

    Did you hear about the bloke who committed ideological suicide by jumping out of the Overton Window?

    • SoftStarLight October 27, 2019 at 12:02 pm #

      You know, that Overton Window is kinda dangerous since it moves! I wished he would have held on a little longer. It may have moved in his direction in time.

  57. KesaAnna October 26, 2019 at 10:49 pm #

    ” Art no longer serves the purpose of bringing beauty and deep significance to life. ”

    — Sunburstsoldier

    About 30 – 40 years ago men in the West generally began wearing Burka’s.

    Burka’s ???

    By ” Burka ” I mean men started wearing the plainest , dowdiest , simplest , least imaginative , least colorful or creative , most self – effacing costume you could imagine.

    And not just ditch – diggers and auto mechanics on the job , but fellows with advanced degrees and other fancy titles , whilst hanging out at the country club.

    And all of this during a period in history when apparel has never been cheaper.

    During the same period , virtually all the color , creativity , variety , artistic devotion , and just plain beauty , was found near – exclusively in womens fashion .

    It strikes me as rather odd then that women were the oppressed demographic.

    At what previous period in history were the slaves several grades better dressed than the Patricians ?

    Lately though , roughly the last five years ( ? ) women , too , increasingly are adopting the Burka look.

    — Even as women and men both rail against Burka’s.

    Apparently the message everyone is trying to send is , ” We are all equals ! ”

    When , obviously , ditch – diggers and toilet – scrubbers are no less despised than they were 500 years ago.

    I’m inclined to suspect that , ” go to college ” would not be the universal American ideal now if you really looked up to your textile worker grandfathers and housewife grandmothers.

    ( your textile worker grandfathers and housewife grandmothers who were better dressed. )

    At the same time , pearly – white teeth , perfect skin , and luxuriant hair have never been more important to ones presentation.

    It doesn’t take the math skills of a director of the IRS , though , to figure out that pearly – white teeth , perfect skin , and luxuriant hair can easily cost hundreds of times more than a Gucci handbag , English Riding Boots , or dry- cleaning bills.

    • BackRowHeckler October 27, 2019 at 12:06 am #

      KesaAnna

      You are bright and insightful, your posts are witty and humorous. I get such a kick out of reading them, your late nite musings.

      Keep at it, my dear

      – Marlin: him, he

    • Q. Shtik October 27, 2019 at 12:16 am #

      Kesa,

      What is the take away message of women wearing ripped jeans? Even women like the Kardashians. I don’t friggin’ get it.

      • JohnAZ October 27, 2019 at 1:10 am #

        It must be popular to look poor.

        After all, we are all the same, right?

    • sunburstsoldier October 27, 2019 at 11:16 am #

      Genuine creativity is the response of our deep mind to the challenges inherent in life. This is proved by the fact that the creative process basically operates “underground” or in the deeper, largely “unconscious” strata of the human mind. Of course for such a creative process to be initiated in the first place it must be assumed the potential innovator has mastered his/her discipline in an outward sense through dedicated effort and passionate commitment.

      All great art in some way or the other heightens consciousness.

      • sunburstsoldier October 27, 2019 at 11:25 am #

        Just to clarify I do not associate creativity with the domain of the arts alone. The “miracle in Philadelphia” that gave rise to the American Constitution was a profoundly creative document brought to birth through much toil and effort on the part of the Founders.

        • SoftStarLight October 27, 2019 at 11:58 am #

          Are you an artist?

          • sunburstsoldier October 27, 2019 at 12:09 pm #

            If you mean do I earn a living as an artist no. I’m more of a philosopher. Unfortunately I don’t earn a living as a philosopher either.

          • Tate October 27, 2019 at 12:47 pm #

            It’s hard to earn a living as a philosopher. There’s not much market demand for your services. Now, tax accountancy, that’s a horse of a different color.

            Tate — he, him, hisn

          • SoftStarLight October 27, 2019 at 2:45 pm #

            I’m sorry but leave it up to society to make a bean counter trade so rewarding. And to make the pursuit of the meaning of life so unrewarding. At least in the material sense. It would be justice for there to be a day in which tax accountants are said to be starving and artists and philosophers are at the feast. Good ones of course :-).

          • GreenAlba October 27, 2019 at 5:18 pm #

            SSL

            “It would be justice for there to be a day in which tax accountants are said to be starving”

            Thanks, SSL, I’ll let my daughter know. She works in tax. She doesn’t earn a fortune, though, and she shares a rented flat with two other young women, as is commensurate with her unremarkable salary.

            She didn’t choose to be a tax accountant. She studied Law, after briefly trying out Civil Engineering and finding it wasn’t for her (or rather she wasn’t for it). But she wasn’t confident enough to be great at interviews with law firms and didn’t go to private school like a majority who make it in that sector in this neck of the woods.

            So she carried on working in the pub she’d worked in all through university (and while doing a conversion to English Law in England as well, then a Certificate in legal practice). Eventually she got a job in the Accounts department of what might call itself a legal firm but was an outfit of ambulance chasers. The work was mind-numbing, demeaning and paid £11k per annum.

            Anyway, just before the two years ran out after which she would no longer have been categorised as a ‘recent graduate’ for job-searching purposes, she saw an ad for tax accountant training with one of the Big Four. She didn’t think she’d have any chance. Amazingly (again, most of the candidates were from private schools) she got through the interview process and ended up in Canary Wharf at their business school for a hothouse year of studying from 7 in the morning to 10 at night, and managed to be part of the 20% who passed all their exams first time, despite being (a) one of a tiny number of state school pupils and (b) horror of horrors, brought up by a single parent. Golly gosh. That’s not the way it’s supposed to work. Why isn’t she a drug addict with three illegitimate children by three different men?

            Anyway, she loved the course and the hard work because she’s very ‘mathsy’ and it was all enjoyably academic.

            Then she had to work, like a grown up, first in Manchester, and now in Singapore, where she originally went on a secondment which was a perk, but the people over there offered her a job so there she is.

            The firm and her boss were pretty horrible to work for and she finally left and works for a not-big-four company where she is happier and has been promoted a couple of times but still isn’t earning anything remarkable.

            People quite often don’t get to choose what they do for a living. I’m sure my daughter fantasises about owning a coffee shop in Melbourne or something, but you have to do the work that is there, not the work you wish was there.

            Volodya mentioned recently that he works with nice, hard-working lawyers. I once dated a lawyer here a couple of times and he was stressed, overworked and looked kind of oppressed.

            I have a niece who’s a solicitor and earns a decent salary (nothing amazing by American standards) but hates it. My daughter has a friend who was a lawyer and now runs a craft shop. I used to have a young neighbour who wanted to be a piano teacher but her father bullied her into legal training. She hated her job as well.

            There are lots of people in sectors we like to despise (I am equally guilty) who aren’t climbing the greasy pole but are just trying to get by, like everyone else.

            So pardon me if I don’t join you in fervently wishing for my daughter’s starvation.

          • SoftStarLight October 27, 2019 at 8:41 pm #

            I’m sorry Alba. It was more symbolic than reality anyway. As you indicated one could easily take out tax accountant and plug in their own despised profession. My main point is that society has strange priorities, that’s all. People do work hard. Like you said, at jobs they don’t even love. Yet talking about a living wage is basically off the table. Weird, right?

          • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 9:56 am #

            It’s OK, SSL, I know exactly what you mean. And I quite agree that society has what seems to be the wrong priorities in an endless variety of ways. Look what footballers get paid compared to nurses, but it’s ‘the market’ and there aren’t many top footballers compared to the number of nurses. And so it goes…

            I read people doing this thing all the time, though. Town against country, this state against that state. I have friends in Paris and the (French) husband gets fed up with the way some people from the rest of France say ‘les Parisiens’ as if they were spitting. Some people have to live in Paris – it’s just the way it is. And they’re not bad people because they’re not raising goats in the Vercors. It’s just the way things turned out and mostly the result of what they were born into. Very much mostly the result of what they were born into.

            Yes, it would be great if everyone earned a living wage. (We have both a ‘minimum wage’ here and a ‘living wage’ which is slightly higher) but you wouldn’t want to be bringing a family up on it – my grandson’s dad earns one or the other and only for 16 hours a week. If he was paid more, food would cost us all more, so everyone on the minimum wage would want a rise. Rinse and repeat. What can you do? Fortunately she’s been saving money since she was a child and she keeps a roof over their head. I get different sides of life through my kids and live myself in the middle!

            I said once before a while ago that I respect pretty much anyone who can do something I can’t do, whether s/he’s fixing my central heating system, running a farm, risking his life as a small fisherman, working on developing better wind energy systems, or making me a silk wedding dress. So I’m not going to run out of people to respect any time soon. We can’t all be raising goats or growing crops in the country – the important thing is to recognise the value of what people are doing. And for the folks in the country to maybe also recognise that we aren’t all lucky enough to have land or the kind of income that would buy you any, even if there was any for you to have.

          • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 10:02 am #

            I included one in there for you. 🙂

    • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 9:14 am #

      “I’m inclined to suspect that , ” go to college ” would not be the universal American ideal now if you really looked up to your textile worker grandfathers and housewife grandmothers.”

      The textile factories were full of women, certainly in this country (men as well, but lots and lots of women. The idea that women in working class communities never had to work is a fantasy. In Glasgow they ‘took in washing’ as well, and (in the dry humour of the time) ‘took in steps’.

      The mother of one of my best friends worked in a damask factory in Belfast. She suffered from COPD for decades before she died – ‘linen lung’, they used to call it – and ended up with an oxygen machine just to keep each breath coming.

      She was glad her girls got to university, but they didn’t love her any less for being a factory girl all her life. They were proud of her. She had to ditch a gambling husband to survive and brought her girls up herself. Not an unusual story for those who read their Zola. Many a child in my mother’s era (not her, thankfully) had to go to be pub on a Friday night to find dad and bring him home before he drank the entire week’s pay. Romanticising the old working class too much is as bad as looking down your nose at it.

      In my mother’s childhood home, their dad came home from his work as a boiler stoker on a Friday night and handed his brown envelope to his wife because he respected her above all else. She gave him back his pocket money and kept them (10 of them) on the rest for the week. Back when men were men and women were women but had to do men’s work as well. Especially during wars when there were no men to do it.

      • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 10:09 am #

        “She had to ditch a gambling husband to survive ”

        She never divorced him so she eventually got his pension. 🙂

        Which she richly deserved. He used to meet my friend on a Saturday and wheedle her Saturday job money out of her.

  58. Pucker October 27, 2019 at 1:36 am #

    There’s mysterious naked girl standing in the Overton Window.

  59. Pucker October 27, 2019 at 1:39 am #

    Do they want to Confiscate the movie “Top Gun” Starring Tom Cruise and Val Kilmer…?

    • SoftStarLight October 27, 2019 at 11:38 am #

      Definitely! They already have on a deeper level if you think about it.

  60. Pucker October 27, 2019 at 1:41 am #

    Do they want to confiscate the TV game show host, Tom Woolery, and “The Dating Game’s”. Bob Rubanks?

  61. capt spaulding October 27, 2019 at 11:23 am #

    It turns out that the Republican “invasion” of the house impeachment hearings was due to a miscommunication. Apparently someone got word that there were special interest groups handing out money to influence legislation at that location. They were said to be pretty upset to find out it wasn’t true, with one representative saying: “I canceled a dinner date with members of Goldman Sachs for this?”

    On the other hand, the Democrats, who showed up late, were already disappointed because they thought they had missed out on the handouts. One Democrat was heard to say: “How come those guys get all the good stuff, and all we get is Bupkus?”

  62. BackRowHeckler October 27, 2019 at 11:26 am #

    Red this, if you can find it

    ‘Renewable energy’s inconsistent truth’, at oilprice.com

    Jim’s ‘The Long Emergency’ came out nearly 15 years ago, but the author of this article is saying pretty much the same thing about the efficacy of ‘Renewables’ and their ability to replace electricity produced by coal, oil and natgas plants. In short it’s a fantasy, and it ain’t gonna happen. GW fanatics like to talk about the ‘Science’ behind their predictions but here’s the real science, backed by solid engineering and the irrefutable Laws of Thermodynamics.

    Brh

    • SoftStarLight October 27, 2019 at 11:35 am #

      And the entire time the “experts” have known this and yet they have still pushed for more and more renewables. So now we have these giant wind turbine farms beginning to cover the landscape and becoming massive graveyards for thousands and thousands of birds. But this environmental wreckage is ok apparently. Not to speak of the toxins and rare minerals used in the manufacture of solar panels, etc.

      • BackRowHeckler October 27, 2019 at 12:05 pm #

        There’s still room for ‘renewables’ SSL, maybe at a little above the Science Project’ level. The article says currently, worldwide, windmills provide 2% of electricity, solar panels, 1%..

        Just enough to feed into the fantasy.

        Brh

        • SoftStarLight October 27, 2019 at 2:37 pm #

          Yes, if we would just try to make the use of fossil fuels as clean as possible that would probably be the better dream to chase than these science projects.

          • BackRowHeckler October 27, 2019 at 3:01 pm #

            Yeah, there’s technology for that.

            And conservation too.

            Marlin: him, he

          • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 10:17 am #

            ‘Clean coal’ systems haven’t been made to work on a large scale yet and they reduce the energy efficiency of the coal quite significantly

            Costs more to try to solve problems whatever way you do it.

            ALL of this should be discussed rationally and unemotionally, instead of pretending AGW is a flippin’ hoax.

        • JohnAZ October 27, 2019 at 4:14 pm #

          Just to support the small remainder of folks after TLE hits in force will take all the renewables available.

          The Long Emergency in force will be the end of civilization as we know it now.

        • GreenAlba October 27, 2019 at 4:37 pm #

          In Scotland, brh, renewables provide 78% of electricity.

          We still heat our homes with gas and cars still mostly run on petrol/diesel – buses are increasingly hybrids.

          But 78% of electricity is not a fantasy. It is what it is – four fifths of all electricity consumed.

          We even export the stuff to the big elephant down south.

          We will probably export water to them too, as climate change proceeds and their own water management becomes complicated, between devastating floods and periods of drought in some places.

          • GreenAlba October 27, 2019 at 4:37 pm #

            I’m obviously not suggesting y’all can do as well. Horses for courses.

          • JohnAZ October 27, 2019 at 8:05 pm #

            Read up on your energy generation. Offshore wind generation. Scotland is fortunate, lots of coastline and narrow. The goal is 100% by next year.

            A problem that will get you in the future- maintenance. And the lubricant requirements guess what oil, and lots of it. Managements ofter purposely overlook the costs of maintenance. An extremely good example is PG&E in California, who built infrastructure all over California’s forests which due to lousy maintenance, is now igniting wild fires.

            In the long term, maintenance costs more than the original outlay of capital and is always on the back burner, budget time.

            Two questions

            What happens when the wind does not blow? Do they store electricity and how?

            I noticed this is electricity alone. Heat generation is 50% biomass. A polluter.

            Reminds me of an electric car. 230 Miles per charge, unless you go up hill, or run air conditioning or want to go 75 mph. Drops like a rock. Heat generation on electricity would make many more wind farms necessary.

            Putting Phoenix’s air conditioners on Scotland’s grid would hamper the ability to keep up with electricity demand.

            Biomass is considered renewable. Remember Easter Island? Biomassed themselves to extinction.

            TLE showed that all the renewables in the world cannot fill the energy demand that oil and gas do. So you are fortunate that wind production fills the bill for electricity. In the US, coasts and mountain passes maybe, not everywhere.

          • hmuller October 27, 2019 at 11:28 pm #

            GA,

            You included nuclear energy in there with renewables and neglected to mention it. Not that you would ever be intentionally dishonest.

            “Renewables were again the single largest source of electricity generated in Scotland in 2015 (42%) – higher than both nuclear generation (35%) and fossil fuel generation (22%)”

            www2.gov.scot/Topics/Statistics/Browse/Business/TrendElectricity.

          • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 6:38 am #

            “A problem that will get you in the future- maintenance. And the lubricant requirements guess what oil, and lots of it. Managements ofter purposely overlook the costs of maintenance. An extremely good example is PG&E in California, who built infrastructure all over California’s forests which due to lousy maintenance, is now igniting wild fires.”

            I don’t disagree with that, JohnAZ. I don’t live in cloud cuckoo land. It’s still better, I’d have thought, to leverage the oil that’s still accessible than to just burn it all. A slow descent is better than an abrupt one, generally speaking. IMHO anyway. I get the impression that that is your view too, from other posts.

          • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 10:21 am #

            And using oil to lubricate turbines isn’t releasing CO2 into the atmosphere. So it helps with climate change but not with the oil reserves problem. Still better than not helping with any problem at all!

    • elysianfield October 27, 2019 at 12:38 pm #

      “GW fanatics like to talk about the ‘Science’ behind their predictions but here’s the real science, backed by solid engineering and the irrefutable Laws of Thermodynamics”

      …Yeah, what he said….

      • GreenAlba October 27, 2019 at 4:26 pm #

        There is no contradiction between the irrefutable Laws of Thermodynamics (you must be happy to find some science is ‘settled’!) and the science behind the predictions related to AGW. Nor have you shown any.

        The science of climatology gives you a range of predictions – it doesn’t promise you a panacea that’s going to solve the problems predicted. Why would it? That’s another area of expertise and you don’t even have to be an expert to figure out that renewables aren’t going to supply the kind of economies to which the developed nations have accustomed themselves, let alone hyper-wasteful Americans.

        No contradiction at all. Evidence is evidence, whichever side of the issue you’re looking at.

        If you spent less time trying to denigrate the climate scientists, you might even find it easier to persuade the more naive climate activists to your point of view regarding how much or how little can be done. That’s the point that should be publicly debated, not tripe about the science being a hoax by either China or lefty liberals or elitists or George Soros or the Illuminati or shape-shifting reptilians or…or…[insert bogeyman of choice].

        That, I’d say, is what our host does. It’s a long time since I read TLE but I certainly don’t recall its author denigrating climate science. Unlike a good number of people on here, he seems to be able to concentrate on the likelihood or otherwise (mostly otherwise) of particular solutions being realistic, rather than pretending that the problem isn’t as the science has demonstrated. Which seems to me a more rational and intelligent response, but maybe you guys are cleverer than both him and the scientists.

      • elysianfield October 27, 2019 at 6:33 pm #

        “denigrating climate science.”

        Alba please!

        I do not denigrate the science, I just do not believe those who’s paradigms seem…incomplete, and politicized.

        I respect the science to the extent that I would avoid those who wield it carelessly, with, perhaps, impure motives, and a pandering to the politics of…dare I say it? Those who would cripple the first world tier of countries through means such as unrestricted immigration, carbon taxes, craven PC attacks on our culture…you know, the bad guys.

        You know that the Paris Accords gave China…the largest producer of CO2, the country that is building massive numbers of coal fired power plants…a 20 YEAR exemption of the rules of the accord? But they would have us taxed. Does this not concern you?

        Alba Please!

        P.S. Even the laws of thermodynamics are not settled…quantum physics, and all that.

        • GreenAlba October 27, 2019 at 7:36 pm #

          Re laws of thermodynamics, again, irony, EF. But if you didn’t think they were ‘irrefutable’, you should probably not have based your comment on the citation.

          You don’t respect the science because you keep saying we ‘don’t know enough’. We do know enough to know what the problem is (peak oil is a different, but related problem).

          Everyone disagrees about what to do about it, but going on endlessly, as people do on here, about sea levels not rising blah blah blah, is disingenuous in the extreme – where do they think the melting ice is going, down a sink hole to the centre of the earth? And what is their theory as to how increased heat energy in the atmosphere somehow doesn’t lead to extreme weather? Where do they think the energy is going, bearing in mind the laws of thermodynamics that you mention?

          There are two reasons behind giving China more time (I’m not defending them, I’m just saying what they are): (1) western countries were shoving CO2 into the atmosphere like there was no tomorrow before China was in the league it is in now for emissions, so historically, the greater damage was done by the west, while China is still catching up, and (2) if no concessions were made towards this position they would simply not comply with the accord at all in the longer term.

          You’re a realist – in a negotiation a realist would have to consider accepting this compromise with China to avoid the situation becoming even worse. As in do you want China on board later or not at all? But only people whose interest is genuinely in the mitigation of the climate crisis would think like that. And China’s per capita emissions are way, way below yours, yet you want special treatment.

          The UK has cut its emissions considerably and is still here.

          • BackRowHeckler October 27, 2019 at 9:55 pm #

            But in the general scheme of things, the UK doesn’t amount to a pisshole in the snow. The UK could cease to exist at this moment and it wouldn’t effect global temps one way or the other.

            Marlin: he, him

          • BackRowHeckler October 27, 2019 at 9:59 pm #

            And about those melting ice caps, current temp in Anarctica: -63°F. The more I check these temps in the polar regions, the more I think ‘melting ice caps’ is another goddam lie.

            Brh

          • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 5:17 am #

            “But in the general scheme of things, the UK doesn’t amount to a pisshole in the snow. ”

            And yet that wasn’t the point…

            GA: she, her.

          • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 6:14 am #

            “the more I check these temps in the polar regions, the more I think ‘melting ice caps’ is another goddam lie.”

            I know, brh. That’s what so sad.

            It’s like your doctor’s just told you you’ve got cancer and there are some things they can do that might help, palliatively speaking, but not totally cure it. So it’s up to you to choose whether to try them or just leave things as they are.

            And you choose instead to believe you haven’t got cancer.

            It’s that dumb.

            nsidc.org/cryosphere/sotc/sea_ice.html

            Don’t just bleat, Marlin: he, him – point out the actual errors in the observations. Not ‘models’, note, Marlin: he, him – observations.

            Write to them, brh; seriously, point out the flaws. For all of us.
            For Greta: she, her.

          • elysianfield October 29, 2019 at 1:43 pm #

            “Re laws of thermodynamics, again, irony, EF. But if you didn’t think they were ‘irrefutable’, you should probably not have based your comment on the citation.”

            Alba,
            I did not question their viability, I understand that they are STILL BEING STUDIED…

            “settled science” indeed!

  63. sunburstsoldier October 27, 2019 at 12:11 pm #

    For each of us there are but two paths to choose from to mark our passage through this world. One represents a gradual descent into darkness and despair, the other a progressive ascent unto the Light and everlasting joy. What determines what path we are on is whether or not we are “developing” ourselves. If it is a developmental path it will lead us upwards towards the Light. If not it will take us down a long decline into the regions of “outer darkness” from which there is no return.

    • sunburstsoldier October 27, 2019 at 12:24 pm #

      All development occurs through addressing the challenges inherent in life. If we fail to address such challenges for whatever reason we fail to develop ourselves, which means essentially we fail to unfold our potential to experience and live life fully and repletely. This is really what the Long Emergency is all about.

      • Tate October 27, 2019 at 12:55 pm #

        So the Long Emergency is a personal journey?

        • sunburstsoldier October 27, 2019 at 1:07 pm #

          Sure. Although the Long Emergency is a challenge which impacts us as a collective, the way we address it, as with all challenges in life, is through our personal development. And like all challenges in life, the Long Emergency, if we wholeheartedly strive to meet it through a personal developmental process, will deepen our connection to the world at large.

          • BackRowHeckler October 27, 2019 at 1:46 pm #

            All that sounds good, but what happens if you live in Norfolk, Ct, heating oil is driven up to $10 per gallon if it’s available at all, the temp. drops to -22°F like it did one Feb. night in 2104, and water pipes start bursting in your basement? You’re f#kked, even as you strive to meet challenges with personal development.

            Marlin: him, he

          • Tate October 27, 2019 at 1:57 pm #

            The Long Emergency will force the re-connection of essential man & essential woman in their essential complementary roles as Male & Female. We will see a new flowering of Realism in the Arts. The decadent tendencies will be pruned from the Tree of Art as a sagacious arborist prunes the dead unproductive branches from his orchard. The principles of male striving & female fecundity will arise anew to reinvigorate artistic expression. Clio will pluck her lyre & her Great Wheel will return humankind to that place it never left.

            Tate — he him hisn

          • BackRowHeckler October 27, 2019 at 2:18 pm #

            True enough

            The LE will probably do that, and it’s probably already begun.

            What I’m talking about is when petroleum and coal prices are driven up for political reasons, ostensibly to mitigate Climate Change. The people behind the grift will still be living large; Marlin and Tate will be waiting for the bus in some grimy urban neighborhood, the head of the State DEP zipping by in his $60,000 BMW, easily affordable with his 6 figure govt salary.

            That’s not too mention the biggest proponents of this hoax flying around in their private jet aircraft and buying seaside mansions for $15 million.

            That’s the way it’s going to work,

            I mean, who is bullshitting who here?

            Brh

          • SoftStarLight October 27, 2019 at 2:33 pm #

            Yes, let’s embrace Realism here. Realism told me that the Long Emergency means death for a lot of people. Personal development is probably not the first thought during famine or mass epidemics or brutal bloodshed over fire wood. There will still be stories of survival, thriving, life and birth too.

          • JohnAZ October 27, 2019 at 4:07 pm #

            When I read The Long Emergency it represented the future without adequate oil as a gut wrenching, survival of the fittest, war time period where the strongest and/or the wisest will prevail or not as luck will count.

            We will backslide into the 19th century, become more agrarian, need skills based on farming and horses and the big cities will relocate folks to Main Street USA

            JHK stated it very well. He said that before the Green Revolution and the invention of the car, we had about a billion people able to be supported on this planet. We now have over 7 billion. Six billion folks are going via the Four Horseman.

            In the World Made by Hand books, JHK says that a lot of the hit is going to be by pandemics. That is only one horse.

            Imagine what is going to happen when the shelves in the cities empty out. They will come roaring out looking for a way to survive. Think Chicago, think NY, think West Coast.

            The Long Emergency will not be a existential spiritual events.

            It will be Hell on earth!

          • SoftStarLight October 27, 2019 at 8:11 pm #

            Not that spiritual and personal development won’t help. Of course it will. It just seems like the Hell on Earth scenario is likely. It’s going to test the best of the best. At least it seems like that will be the case.

    • SoftStarLight October 27, 2019 at 2:26 pm #

      Is it that simple? It seems like the paths that some people are on result in rapid descents into darkness and despair or alternatively rapid ascents into light and joy. It also seems like some people can be on a good or bad path but quickly switch to the opposite because of events in life. And then some people say you have to go through the dark to really understand the light or light to understand the dark.

      • sunburstsoldier October 27, 2019 at 3:01 pm #

        All that you say is true. Still in the end there are but two paths to choose from; the path of personal development which entails a willingness to confront real world challenges like the Long Emergency, or the path of non-development (for lack of a better word) which implies avoiding challenges by pretending they don’t exist, or convincing one’s self they are someone else’s problem.

      • Cavepainter October 27, 2019 at 8:32 pm #

        Uh, pardon me, but Ted Bundy and his likes aren’t changed by a morality story. Statistically they occur @ about 1 to 25, then there are the psychotics, then there are the dim witted and those who will always seek insulating fairy tales.

        • sunburstsoldier October 28, 2019 at 6:22 am #

          None of this refutes my basic assertion even though on the surface it may appear to do so.

  64. Tate October 27, 2019 at 1:25 pm #

    What happened to our Dan Brown of the Third Rome? Was he unceremoniously bumped?

    • Tate October 27, 2019 at 5:19 pm #

      I’m speaking of FincaintheMountain of course.

      • elysianfield October 27, 2019 at 6:38 pm #

        Tate,
        I expect that Komraden Finc! was “article 58’s”….

    • GreenAlba October 28, 2019 at 10:25 am #

      “What happened to our Dan Brown of the Third Rome?”

      Funny. 🙂

  65. sunburstsoldier October 27, 2019 at 3:05 pm #

    In our personal effort to respond to the Long Emergency the acquisition of “wisdom” may have greater value than highly specific technical (or mechanical) knowledge. What then is wisdom? A form of knowledge acquired through a comprehensive approach to reality, or to put it more plainly, wisdom is the art of living life as a whole.

    • BackRowHeckler October 27, 2019 at 3:36 pm #

      How about practical skills like how to grow peas, milk a cow, change a tire, dress out a deer, reload shotgun shells … stuff like that?

      Something above and beyond working the TV remote.

      Marlin: him, he

      I’m not trying to bust your balls, sunburstsoldier, just keep the conversation going on this dreary, rainy, cold Sunday afternoon.

      Brh

      • sunburstsoldier October 27, 2019 at 4:00 pm #

        I hear ya. Yeah those skills are essential as well which is why I am advocating for an “ark of culture” containing all relevant knowledge necessary to rebuild civilization from scratch. (I can’t take credit for this idea however. It was one of a number of concepts taught to me by an eccentric genius named Norman Miller back in the 70s.)

        Still wisdom is what ties the whole ball of wax together.

        • JohnAZ October 27, 2019 at 4:22 pm #

          Think about the economic system prior to these college only days. The apprentice journeyman master process that arose from the guilds of the Middle Ages was the basis of the development of the middle class. It took years of experience to be a master of a craft or skill.

          We are losing it.

          • sunburstsoldier October 27, 2019 at 4:34 pm #

            And because you lived in a village or large town (city) that was pedestrian orientated, as an apprentice you often boarded with your master whose workshop was adjacent to or attached to his home.

          • Tate October 27, 2019 at 4:47 pm #

            Art used an apprenticeship system at one time. You think Michelangelo painted all those pictures himself? Nope. He just went around suggesting improvements.

    • JohnAZ October 27, 2019 at 3:53 pm #

      The Long Emergency preached skills, something you could barter with

      The first people who will get clobbered are our current crop of humanities trained politically correct SKWs. They will be the first on the street corners begging.

      Wisdom,

      When you have enough information and life experiences between your ears to make intelligent decisions.

      That is why a country led by children is not wise and uses little common sense.

      Sorry, Greta, come back in about forty years.

      • sunburstsoldier October 27, 2019 at 4:10 pm #

        So true. The politically correct groupies are setting themselves up for a hard fall due to their unwillingness to pursue truth wherever it may lead, which is usually somewhere outside the box.

        As you say wisdom is something gained over the course of a lifetime, assuming one has experienced life in a broad sense, and has not been too insulated from the real world of challenge and problem-solving.

        • sunburstsoldier October 27, 2019 at 4:21 pm #

          Still if we deliberately and systematically broaden our approach to life, which of course flies directly in the face of high specialization which is the trademark of the West, we can get on a fast track to wisdom. Easy to say but admittedly hard to do.

        • SoftStarLight October 27, 2019 at 7:56 pm #

          Where do you think truth leads if I may ask?

          • JohnAZ October 27, 2019 at 8:50 pm #

            Truth is in the eyes of the beholder.

            Is there an ultimate Truth? Used to be when folks believed in God, an ultimate being that broadcast the Truth.

            It is another victim of our secular society.

            Who do you believe tells the truth?

            Trump

            The Deep State

            Nancy Pelosi

            Adam Schiff

            Your pastor

            Your mother

            Your father

            Janos

            Where does the truth come from?

            Whomever you choose to believe

          • sunburstsoldier October 27, 2019 at 9:37 pm #

            So many ways to answer that. Let’s say truth is a pitched tent on the side of a mountain where we rest for the night before pushing on to the summit.

      • JohnAZ