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An ill wind threatens to rake and churn up the Atlantic coast this Labor Day as a live-action metaphor auguring a more general wreckage to come in the final four months of 2019. More than most years, this holiday weekend seems to mark a boundary between past and future, between ends and beginnings.

The tremors of August appear to mark the end of the ten-year bull market run, a.k.a. “the recovery,” a last-ditch central bank orchestrated campaign to pretend that economic growth is infinite on a finite planet. The magic of credit — “money” untethered to resources — drained economic mojo from the future so that we can watch Miley Cyrus videos while snacking on Lay’s “fried pickle with ranch [dressing] flavored” potato chips. Yes, that’s an actual product — also, another reason that America is bankrupting itself on medical costs. The chains of consequence are long and punishing these days.

Gold and silver seem to be signaling two things: coming inflation and political turmoil. Debt accumulation around the world has passed the point where even prayer to every known deity will not avail to prevent a horrendously destructive work-out of loans that can never be paid back. Default makes money disappear. The response, of course, will be to print more money untethered to real stuff. An orgy of QE could easily drive stock markets higher, only those markets will be indexed to money losing its value. All this will seem like so much metaphysical bullshit to citizens who can’t pay twenty bucks for a pound of hamburger. And it would greatly aggravate the political situation at a time when many of those same aggrieved citizens will be looking for lamp-posts to hang some one-percenters from.

Cue the rise of the redistributionists, that is, the people who want the government to determine who gets what and where to get it. Or, shall we say, who to take it from. Elizabeth Warren is leading the pack for now — the once-Republican Oklahoma grandma turned Leon Trotsky wannabe. I’ll give her this: she’s a helluva cheerleader. And she’s energetic for an old broad, prancing around the stage in her spandex yoga pants, arms akimbo, head vibrating. I wonder, though, whether voters (those aforesaid citizens) will remember that she vowed to give free health care to border-jumpers. Or that she pretended to be a Cherokee for career advancement at snooty Harvard.

A rowdy-dowdy financial smash-up will tarnish the Trump MAGA brand for sure. But will the Golden Golem of Greatness simply stew in the oval office or try some desperate new stunts to salvage his quixotic political career? And will his shaky marriage with the Republican Party veer into divorce court, with the party turning to a steadier and more conventional figure in the coming election year? They’ll get beat anyway as economic depression mounts, but they’ll save face in defeat. That is, if Mr. Trump manages to not start World War Three in the meantime.

Odious as he is to many, history will record one salutary effect of his term in office: the RussiaGate ploy alerted Americans that there truly is a Deep State with its own self-winding agenda. A few perp-walks upcoming may have a chastening effect on future Swamp critters entertaining a higher calling, as the slippery James Comey put it — meaning, using the powerful machinery of government for your own purposes.

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I sense another change in the air: the retreat of Wokesterism to the intellectual carnival tent it crawled out of. The New York Times staff might believe it can easily swap out its failed RussiaGate flimflam for a general mau-mauing of “racist” America, but they are already overplaying that hand. With the economy tanking, we’ll have enough problems in this land without a race war, thank you, Dean Baquet. I suspect we will have seen the end of this on campus, too, as the entire higher ed system finally begins to detect that it is whirling around the drain.

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  1. TraffickingInDivinity September 2, 2019 at 10:05 am #

    The Golden Golem is the real hurricane exposing the Deep State – maybe this will work our well after all!

    • JohnAZ September 2, 2019 at 10:13 am #

      Hurricane Donald, there you go.

      • Neon Vincent September 2, 2019 at 11:05 am #

        While I couldn’t find a record of Donald being on the list of Atlantic or Pacific hurricane names, Don is on the list for the 2023 Atlantic hurricane season. Coincidentally, that’s the year Our Cartoon President would leave office should he serve out two full terms. Welcome to the power of hurricane names.

        • abbybwood September 2, 2019 at 12:09 pm #

          I’ll admit I was never a math wiz, but if Donald Trump were to win the election in 2020 and serve a second term that means he would be sworn in in 2021 January and would leave office in January of 2025 as the next election will be November 2024.

          Correct me if I’m wrong.

          • Neon Vincent September 2, 2019 at 5:21 pm #

            No, I won’t. Your math is better than mine. That’s what I get for posting before I finish my first cup of coffee.

          • hmuller September 2, 2019 at 5:44 pm #

            What the hell, when did facts matter to a Trump hater?

          • Majella September 2, 2019 at 6:43 pm #

            It’s the FACTS that matter, but you & Trumptards all over, like The Donald, are strangers to FACTS.

          • hmuller September 2, 2019 at 8:05 pm #

            Congratulations Majella, you can write FACTS in all capital letters and call people “Trumptards”. Now I’m really impressed. LOL.

          • Majella September 2, 2019 at 8:12 pm #

            Thanks, hmuller. My accomplishments are only outshone by your bitterness.

          • hmuller September 2, 2019 at 8:17 pm #

            What bitterness? I’m just laughing at all you TDS sufferers. So devoid of humor. So sad.

          • fineline September 2, 2019 at 9:17 pm #

            Lets see 1+1=2 Duh 2+2 = 4

            Correct me if Im wrong.

          • Majella September 3, 2019 at 7:57 pm #


            A lying deceitful C-in-C is no laughing matter.

            And again, I’ll state that the ‘Trump Derangement Syndrome” is what’s affecting YOU…YOU’RE the one deranged by his presidency. There’s no other explanation for it than a whacking great case of cognitive dissonance.

          • benr September 4, 2019 at 10:35 am #


            Ah the stench of opinions on your part.
            The mere mention of Trump sends you into a tizzy fit.
            Poor old gal lighten up Francis.

      • My Point of View September 2, 2019 at 12:27 pm #

        Trump is the original CAT-5 blowhard.

    • fineline September 2, 2019 at 9:13 pm #

      Donald Trump is not exposing anything other than that he is able to convince people he is a genius without an IQ es to prove t, that he was an excellent student without providing a transcript, that he had bone spurs without producing an xray and who knows what world of wonders that his tax returns would yield.

      • benr September 4, 2019 at 10:36 am #

        Only the fools care but I bet you don’t care at all what Obamas transcripts look like now do you?

  2. Neon Vincent September 2, 2019 at 10:12 am #

    Happy Labor Day to you and your readers! May Hurricane Dorian not have the effect on the theme parks in Orlando that Hurricane Katrina had on Six Flags New Orleans. Otherwise, Dorian will turn Disney and Universal gray!

    • abbybwood September 2, 2019 at 12:10 pm #

      I’m wondering what it will do to Mara-Lago??

      All I can say is that if ML gets smashed he’d better save THAT tour for last.

      • Majella September 2, 2019 at 6:48 pm #


        Last time Mar-a-Lago got briefly brushed by a hurricane, Wilma in 2004, Trump managed to scam a boat-load of money ($17 million) from his insurers.

        Trump took $17 million in insurance for damage few remember

        • Tate September 2, 2019 at 7:50 pm #

          And yet we don’t hear anymore about it after October 2016? Methinks we can rack this one up to TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome.)

          • Majella September 2, 2019 at 8:14 pm #

            Check the myriad links. This is one of Trump’s less egregious scams, way down the pile. Let’s see what happens after Dorien.

          • benr September 3, 2019 at 2:15 pm #


            Odd how you are not worried about the barrage of Democrat scams and how the one is now approaching billionaire status.

          • Majella September 3, 2019 at 7:54 pm #

            benr: do tell. Educate me, but with details & evidence (links)

          • benr September 4, 2019 at 10:38 am #

            Do your own research.
            The fruit found on ones own initiative is always the most rewarding.
            Hint you won’t find any of it on CNN, MSNBC, ABC or any of the large leftist propaganda organs they are all providing cover.

          • Majella September 4, 2019 at 9:12 pm #

            Oh, come on! Give a wee hint! Should I start with Infowars?

          • Majella September 4, 2019 at 9:17 pm #

            If you don’t like their perspective, you just default to ‘they’re leftist and covering things up!’

            What a crock. Even your favored Fox is starting to tell the Truth about Trump (aside from the brown-nosing ‘opinion’ brigade – did you catch Varney denying that Trump has ever lied?)

            There’s actual journalism going out right under your nose but you wouldn’t recognize it because your perception is warped by your incoherent fear & loathing of anything YOU decide to label as ‘left’ and/or Socialist’.

          • benr September 5, 2019 at 10:49 am #


            You assume much I don’t watch Fox in fact I don’t watch much T.V. anymore well except the History channel.

            I listen to people with actual understanding and intelligence unlike it would appear what ever propaganda nonsense you listen to.

            Look through the archives I have already posted sites, links and assorted truth seekers.
            Many of them have serious doubts about Mr. Trump but none of the doubts are the lies and tired contrived nonsense so many on here spew endlessly about.
            What you appear to listen to is the leftist trolls having temper tantrums because their rotten through their souls power hungry candidates lost.

    • SoftStarLight September 2, 2019 at 12:40 pm #

      Yeah, being submerged under 20 feet of Lake Pontchartrain water is a real downer.…

  3. Loneranger September 2, 2019 at 10:13 am #

    Trump is the second coming of Churchill.

    • JohnAZ September 2, 2019 at 10:27 am #

      Funny how they show up when they are needed.

    • malthuss September 2, 2019 at 10:28 am #

      how so?

    • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 10:29 am #

      According to the theory of the World Projects, Trump is more like a second coming of Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

      Both Roosevelt and Trump are the leaders of the Western Red Project – that is Red like the Red Rose of Lancaster (or Red Dragon of Lancaster)

      Churchill was the leader of the Western White Project – that is White like the White Rose of York.

      • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 10:42 am #

        FDR: Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me – and I welcome their hatred.

        • SoftStarLight September 2, 2019 at 12:49 pm #

          Or maybe there is no comparison between any of them. But on the other hand, I am beginning to think that Zionism and Communism often go hand in hand. Am I on the right track?

          • toktomi September 2, 2019 at 7:07 pm #

            Everybody’s talking about
            Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, Tagism
            This-ism, that-ism, ism ism ism


  4. JohnAZ September 2, 2019 at 10:26 am #

    The GOP establishment would be insane to divorce Trump. He has made inroads to a voter base that was unapproachable to the GOP before. The good economy is increasing minority percentages. The GOP will cease to exist without him as noted by the cowards leaving the congress now. Maybe Trump is the last gasp of a totally inconsequential party as it morphs into something with meaning outside the beltway.

    Funny Greg Gutfeld Saturday talking about what a bunch of jerks New York City folks can be and why should we be surprised Trump acts the way he does. He is the epitome of New York City. Something about elected officials being a reflection of their electorate. Think about that, Trump, DeBlasio, AOC, hmmm.

    • JohnAZ September 2, 2019 at 10:33 am #

      The latest from the Left insane asylum. Warren is following Sanders and wants to nationalize all the major corporations. That IS Communism.

      Let’s see, if I was one of these corporations, what would I do?

      Russia, China, EU, maybe Brazil, Mexico here we come. If these idiots get their way, I would not blame the corporations from jumping ship.

      Only one thing worse than the United States with their blood sucking, capitalistic corporations, and that is the US without them.

      • SoftStarLight September 2, 2019 at 12:59 pm #

        This is why I will be glad to see the Capitalists and Communists go. No wonder there is no peace. Here you have corporations that have grown in power such that they literally control peoples’ lives, and at the slightest indication of trouble they threaten to uproot and move to a completely different country. No loyalty to society or nation whatsoever. And same thing with the Communists. They simply want to get their hands on all of the stolen wealth so they can truly be the Ruling Party. No loyalty to society or nation.

        • outsider September 2, 2019 at 1:58 pm #


          If you haven’t already seen it, I think you’d enjoy that new Netflix documentary “American Factory.” It touches on the themes you brought up, with a culture clash that occurs when a Chinese auto glass company buys a shuttered GM auto plant in rust belt Ohio, hiring some of those laid off workers back – at half the pay they were making as UAW members years earlier. I found it totally riveting.

          • SoftStarLight September 3, 2019 at 12:40 am #

            I actually just watched it this evening. It was very interesting. The clash of cultures may be resolved when everyone is replaced by robots? Still one thing that seemed clear is China’s advantage over the US in terms of a culture that is unified and homogenous. Myopic maybe? But determined. And that, plus the focus on hyper diligent work ethics, and traditionalist and collectivist values appears to give China the edge. I’m not so sure Americans can compete in any real way. Scary as it is to say that. We’re simply too ragtag, disparate and disinterested.

          • outsider September 3, 2019 at 9:07 am #

            I agree 100%, SSL. One thing that was striking was that most of the Americans were way overweight, many obese, while the Chinese were fit and trim. One Chinese worker said that the Americans fingers were too fat to do the job. Many wound up being fired for being too slow. The Chinese are eating our lunch, and no one in authority has any idea what to do about it. Trump’s trade war with China will only make things worse for this fast-sinking country.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 3, 2019 at 6:35 pm #

            They may be naturally faster just as Blacks are naturally slower. I’ve noticed their martial arts movies are faster than our action movies.

            They are also healthier and live longer.

          • Majella September 3, 2019 at 7:52 pm #

            Ah…so, you finally saw that lithe young Chinese eating his Twinkies for lunch, that I referred to last week. Agree with me now?

          • Janos Skorenzy September 3, 2019 at 11:22 pm #

            Yes, they are a higher race. All the more reason to keep them out of our Lands. They’re dangerous.

          • SoftStarLight September 4, 2019 at 9:33 am #

            I did see him Majella and I felt like telling him “hey quit that”. I do agree with you. I think he was adopting some bad eating habits that wouldn’t have a good end if they continued. They should do a follow up interview so we can find out. I suspect he is still a thin and in shape guy but who knows.

          • SoftStarLight September 4, 2019 at 9:37 am #

            They are dangerous. Another reason for that is because they certainly stick together more than we do and they believe in their heritage, history, and culture. We don’t have that since every literal thing has been created to undermine our heritage, history, and culture and denigrate them at every possible opportunity.

      • Bill7 September 2, 2019 at 8:38 pm #

        JohnAZ, what evidence do you have that Sanders and Warren- the latter, in particular- want to “nationalize all the major corporations”?

        Warren has said “I am a Capitalist down to my bones..”, and I don’t
        doubt her at all, on that score.

        Please provide some links to her direct quotes. Thank you.

    • abbybwood September 3, 2019 at 2:01 am #

      As a life-long Democrat (except for the past three years) I can promise that if the Democrats are STUPID enough to nominate ANYONE who will promise open borders or free health care to illegal aliens, I will happily vote for Trump!

      Because I am currently in the “sanctuary city of Los Angeles” I dare not slap that bumper sticker on my car or wear a MAGA hat (I REALLY don’t want my car keyed).

  5. malthuss September 2, 2019 at 10:27 am #


    Id like the collapse to happen. Ive been waiting for years.

    • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 10:33 am #

      I don’t – have two daughters and a son.

      • PeteAtomic September 2, 2019 at 11:29 am #

        me neither. At least allow it to occur over decades.

    • BackRowHeckler September 2, 2019 at 11:04 am #

      LA hasn’t collapsed already, Malthus?

      I watched video of LA in the mid 40s, someone driving around the city filming as it were, with a portable camera. The producer drove around the same streets in 2019, recording as he went.

      The contrast will break your heart.


      • JohnAZ September 2, 2019 at 11:11 am #

        Continue your trip through San Diego, San Francisco, Portland and Seattle.

        The Left should be ashamed of itself, they have been in charge of these areas for decades.

        • Janos Skorenzy September 2, 2019 at 12:10 pm #

          Did “the Left” offshore our industrial base? As usual, you settle for cheap one liners. Is “the Left” pioneering automation – as in self driving trucks which will put millions more out of work?

          If you want all this, you have to pay the price which is to support people in their leisure. Or kill them. But “you” will do neither, just fuliminating as they congregrate on the streets, getting dirtier and crazier and ruining the cities.

          • Bill7 September 2, 2019 at 8:39 pm #

            Good comment.

          • abbybwood September 3, 2019 at 2:23 am #

            Not exactly sure which U.S. President we should blame for signing the “China as a Most Favored Nation Trading Status” agreement but I am pretty sure it was signed in 2001 by George W. Bush.

            Reagan and Nixon and Carter and George H.W. Bush and Clinton HAD to know U.S. manufacturing would be sold out.

            Now here we are.

        • BackRowHeckler September 2, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

          You can’t blame it all on ‘the left’, JAZ.

          Our cities are a mess for a multitude of reasons, not the least of which is de industrialization, introduction of automobiles (author Booth Tarkinton wrote about that in the 20s) white flight, interstate highways cutting thru them, massive suburban shopping malls starting in 1956, massive black sharecropper migration from the south 1920-1970, illegal immigration, and a disappearing tax base combined with rapacious public sector unions as described by Lewis Mumford. (To name a few, there are more)

          Democrat big city mayors are dealing with all of it, but they are not necessarily the cause.


          • BackRowHeckler September 2, 2019 at 12:29 pm #

            Also, on a different level, from an ascetic point of view, too much poured concrete, too much pavement, too much steel, and layer upon layer of crappy architecture beginning after WW2, to the extent many American cities — Atlanta, Phoenix, LA — look
            as tho they were built for something other than human beings.


          • Janos Skorenzy September 2, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

            Yes, and Blacks too. All big cities are socialist since Socialism is required in late stage Capitalism. Not all big Midwestern Cities went the way of Detroit though. Put that at the door of the Black Race and its enablers.

            The Whites fled for their lives once Democracy delivered the City Government into Black hands. Before that there were willing to fight to toe to toe with the savages.

          • malthuss September 2, 2019 at 7:23 pm #

            The Left? is to blame..

            population explosion
            decline in moral code
            cRAP ‘music’


          • benr September 3, 2019 at 2:17 pm #

            Sorry but you do not see the problems of say a Detroit or Chicago in city run by Conservatives.
            So yea the policies of progressives are destroying our country one city at a time one family at a time.

        • toktomi September 2, 2019 at 7:37 pm #


          Forward… March!

          left.. right… left… right
          shit… poop… shit… poop
          junk… crap… junk… crap
          lies… more lies… lies… more lies
          whores… slaves… whores… slaves

          “Pick a card, any card.”
          “Look at it.”
          “Come a little closer.”
          you’re feeling tired…
          your eyelids are getting heavy…


      • malthuss September 2, 2019 at 7:20 pm #


      • malthuss September 2, 2019 at 7:25 pm #

        LA hasn’t collapsed already, Malthus?

        Not by my def.

        My definition = things like

        no food
        martial law
        wiemar type price increases

    • SoftStarLight September 2, 2019 at 1:04 pm #

      We are in the process of collapse now don’t you worry. If you haven’t seen the signs they will be in a neighborhood near you soon enough. Trust me, you’ll be sorry to see it.

      • toktomi September 2, 2019 at 7:46 pm #


        What !! ?

        Are you insinuating that homelessness is NOT a political problem?
        …that the already massive and accelerating decay in everything and every fabric of this country and indeed, the world has something to do with TEOTWAWKI?

        ba-ite yo tung!

        I came here to play keyboard video games and your allusions to possible reality is rustling my jimmies.


    • outsider September 2, 2019 at 2:11 pm #

      Yeah, there’s nothing like a good collapse to clarify things and to highlight how unworkable the US experiment has become. Since we can do nothing to stop it, I say bring it on – sooner rather than later. Anything is better than the slow motion dissolution we’ve been going thru since at least the questionable election of GHWB’s idiot son.

    • toktomi September 2, 2019 at 7:30 pm #


      quit blinking
      open your eyes
      you’re drowning in collapse

      It is really weird that virtually nobody noticed, even in retrospect, the 1980’s when the global economy went onto life support. Later, many would come to understand the theory of Peak Oil but virtually nobody, apparently, has yet recognized the real assassin, Peak Work.

      The inherent killer of the economy was not necessarily that it had to grow to survive but rather that it had to grow exponentially [compound growth] to survive.

      “Say goodnight, Gracie” unless, of course you want to stick around and play a game or two of deck shuffleboard.


      • Tate September 2, 2019 at 8:35 pm #

        Peak Work is intimately connected to Peak Oil. Population ballooned with Peak Oil. Then for some odd reason, they thought they needed something to do.

      • SoftStarLight September 3, 2019 at 12:51 am #

        That’s really scary. Is it really better now? Many people are still working more than one part time job to make ends meet.

  6. Dunewalker September 2, 2019 at 10:36 am #

    And what’s wrong with favoring a comment page populated by folks in basic agreement with the host but maybe differing in various details of their perspectives, versus having to wade through several hundred comments obviously intended to undermine the site?

    • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 10:38 am #


      • Dunewalker September 2, 2019 at 10:23 pm #

        Finca, here you’re minimizing the importance of my observation, but I see that by the bottom of today’s page you’re whining about the type of poster I’m referring to.

    • toktomi September 2, 2019 at 7:58 pm #


      “And what’s wrong with favoring… basic agreement… versus… comments… intended to undermine…?”

      You’re asking, what is wrong with favoring agreement over disagreement, correct?


      But why would you equate disagreement with undermining?

      We won’t get into the psychology of that perspective, but it would be interesting to hear how you view those two notions as synonymous.


  7. Robert White September 2, 2019 at 10:43 am #

    The Duck fails to understand the Central Bank Lower Bound Interest Rate conundrum for the lack of inflation & growth prospects that many foresaw but few realized. The few that realized growth over the last decade were corporate parasites that have monopoly motes drawn around their earnings.

    The Duck & the Swamp Creatures from Goldman Sachs are merely carrying forward Dr. Alan ‘Maestro’ Greenspan’s monetary heroin schedule of reinforcement for the less than deserving .001% of corporate parasites that have been surviving quite well over the last decade off of the corporate stock buyback Federal Reserve money pump which works in reverse when animal spirits are low & personal bank accounts are even lower than that.

    American parasitism is magnified by the belligerence & bellicosity of the MAGA buffoon & his bumbling roster of yes men & women that cannot grasp the lower bound interest rate conundrum as it impinges on North American business investment in Research & Development to the detriment of growth globally.

    America is a used & spent nation/sovereign that is completely overextended militarily, financially, & culturally.

    American exceptionalism is such that asset inflation for the very wealthy is all that matters to the executive class of corporate parasites that live short term business quarter-by-quarter with no real care for long term investment in areas of R&D which ensures that the next decades ahead will be no growth decades thanks to the failed calculations of Maestro Greenspan who realized very late in life that housing prices to not extend to the range of infinity no matter how much Maestro Greenspan & his fellow members of The Committee to Save the World want it to.

    Bottom line is that The Duck is a charade of official lies & half-baked unworkable ideas that even grade school children realize are unworkable on paper knowing that the world is not an infinite resource for monetary & political gain.

    Frankly, when Goldman Sachs started making proprietary bets with public deposits it was game over from a perspective of growth & R&D for that once proud empire of dirt [see Johnny Cash]
    and the executive class of finance miscreants known as The Swamp Creatures from Hell/GS.

    End the FED!


    • JohnAZ September 2, 2019 at 11:02 am #

      I think you are right that they are continuing to stretch the fiscal envelope to try to keep the machinery running. Eventually the debt is going to catch up with them and nothing will stop the Dow slide. I wonder if prolonging the agony is only going make things worse.

      When politics runs the show, you do not necessarily get the best answers. Maybe the worst answers.

      Sidebar Bretton Woods was an ego trip by the US after WW2. We were going to fix the world, make everyone happy and content, spread the goodness of “democracy” all over the globe. We cut off more than we could chew. Plus the fact is that we have as many “bad guys” in this country as does the rest of the world. The result- $22 trillion in debt, a worsening world situation, a poisoned, toxic, hot planet that would probably like to shed itself of the human infestation.

      With that, Happy Labor Day. You know, labor, whatever that is.

      • Robert White September 2, 2019 at 12:56 pm #

        Bretton Woods was the ultimate ego trip, you are bang on there but Nixon closing the gold window and switching up to petro-backed fiat on a global scale was really over the top from my perspective even as a kid in 1971 when I watched him close the gold window whilst being lectured by my Chartered Accountant father with regard to what was actually backing the value of petroleum as it was going to be depleted?

        His answer to me in 1971 when watching Nixon close the gold window was that if the oil ran out there would be the imprimatur backing of state that would guarantee investment & accounts long term as a basket of currencies based upon assets whether Real Estate or forward earnings potential of populations based upon taxation per capita & necessity for utilities like water, roads, hospitals, & electricity, policing, state security, et cetera.

        At the age of 11 in 1971 I fully realized that my Chartered Accountant father could not have been invested in my future if he was willing to accept Nixon’s ad hocracy & petro-dollar bait & switch petro-dollar hegemony when everyone knew that the Fort Knox bullion holdings were unverified and not forthcoming with respect to public disclosure.

        Nixon was sure a great salesman though I doubt he knew the math behind the hegemonic state capture that he was advocating for at the time. Personally, I knew this was all going to go South economic wise when Glass-Steagall Act was repealed by Congress & the Chicago School Neoliberal movement of Strauss et al.


        • elysianfield September 2, 2019 at 1:49 pm #

          “Nixon was sure a great salesman though I doubt he knew the math behind the hegemonic state capture that he was advocating for at the time”

          C’mon, man…50 years a quality of life that the world envied…and you think it was a foolish move? You benefitted greatly…we all did.

          Nixon was arguably the best President in our lifetimes.

          • Robert White September 2, 2019 at 2:10 pm #

            I ended up on the tail end of the Baby Boom Generation with a face made for radio & a diploma in Mechanical Engineering exactly timed for Wall Street to offshore all North American manufacturing jobs writ large across the board North America.

            Today I am on the receiving end of a lifetime of unemployment & decades of no discretionary or disposable income aside from the bare necessities to sustain my well below living standards line of abject poverty & financial impoverishment for life that turned out to be more bane of existence than benefit I’m sure.

            An even greater American president of historical importance warned us all historically that a day would come whereby we would all wake up in the land that our forefathers fought for with a deflationary economic environment that would render us all homeless in the land that our forefathers fought for simple by means of Central Bank manipulation of the value of money/fiat & Wall Street dictates.

            Whether by inflation or deflationary economic slight of hand we will all forego future prosperity & economic benefit due to
            the misallocation of finance at all levels of governance due to the top tier of financial incompetence that would allow fraud on the order of nations to exist to the detriment of the financial system as a whole.


          • elysianfield September 2, 2019 at 7:21 pm #

            I am sorry for your issues. But for good or bad, the economic tour de force that Nixon engineered raised millions of people to the middle class and above, and continue to provide a tremendous opportunity for quality of life issues, and will continue to do so until the Dollar’s hegemony is ended. You, perhaps, should not blame Nixon for your financial situation, but I credit him with mine.

            The chickens come home to roost. Nixon has been pilloried for opening up China…a brilliant move that put Russia behind the 8-ball (geopolitically)…50 years later, we’re all whining about China’s upcoming dominance.

            He is being criticized for making the dollar the petro-currency, thus putting a lip-lock on the rest of the world…screwing them well and proper. After 50 years, we are going to pay the price.

            Consider only that we took the ride…and who in our culture thinks 50 years ahead?

            PS, I always pitied those engineering students back in the 60’s…technology, materials, etc. changing so quickly that they would have to keep their noses in a book constantly just to keep up. Respected them, but ….

          • Tate September 2, 2019 at 8:41 pm #

            Don’t pity engineering students. My brother was one, earned an undergraduate degree in mechanical engineering from one of the top schools in the country. He’s done very well financially.

            But you have to love it. He did.

        • malthuss September 2, 2019 at 7:26 pm #

          Nixon warned of immigration but did not stop it.
          That is his worst crime.

  8. JohnAZ September 2, 2019 at 10:45 am #

    Seems to me that both sides have plans going that are going to destroy the economy, both global and national. The common denominator seems to be the level of debt. No matter who or when, the debt goes up. The gimme people just keep increasing in number and enabled generations just expect more and more without working for it. Wealth is drying up and QE just inflates the money supply. Resources, with human labor turn into capital, ie wealth. That is an axiom in Econ 101. Seems like some one stopped teaching that.

    The influx of AI and robots should finish us off. Another axiom that the PTB seem to have forgotten is that producers are screwed if they destroy their own consumer base. Think retail apocalypse, think food service apocalypse. Add on $15 x $20 minimum wage, that surely should finish off those industries.

    Hey, fellow lemmings, let’s go.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 2, 2019 at 12:12 pm #

      If you have all power and wealth, you don’t need excess population any more – not if you have machines to do it. You’re forgetting your Estulin. People at the top don’t think like us. How could they? Or why? They could either choose to lead or to do something else. They have chosen the latter in the Western World.

      • JohnAZ September 2, 2019 at 12:30 pm #

        Louis XVI was told the same probably a year before he was beheaded. History shows that the masses usually get their revenge over the Elite. Eventually.

        Estulin and all the experts predict considering a certain set of social boundaries. When those conditions blow up, all bets are off. A new social order emerges?

        • SoftStarLight September 2, 2019 at 1:17 pm #

          But who will lead that new social order? Will it be the imports? If so it will be nothing even resembling what exists now. The “masses” winning may not necessarily be a good thing in such a case. Even if the Elite meet Justice.

          • TiredOfTheTreadmill September 2, 2019 at 10:34 pm #

            The usual leader will lead the masses: The CIA. They’ve been protecting the parasite class for decades and they will continue to do so. Oh sure, a few sacrificial minions will be offered up, but the real fat cats will watch the theater show fromntheir escape pods in Dubai, Patagonia, or elsewhere.

          • SoftStarLight September 3, 2019 at 1:00 am #

            I don’t doubt that at all. I am sure the connected have well thought out escape plans and hideaways. And essentially their own private armies.

        • toktomi September 2, 2019 at 8:01 pm #


          Apparently, you believe that the masses were in control of the guillotines. How quaint.


      • malthuss September 2, 2019 at 7:29 pm #

        Think of a lush island. It and its coastal waters provide for the race that live there.
        Why would they want invaders?

        Think of the earth as their island.

        They dont need useless eaters and smart Whites.

      • toktomi September 2, 2019 at 8:09 pm #


        Hear Hear

        Well, actually, there still are a few things that we will need some bodies to complete – basically to operate the machines and to have a few boots on the ground for the pesky stragglers.


    • outsider September 2, 2019 at 2:36 pm #

      The only one running for POTUS who is talking about the end of work due to automation is Andrew Yang. As a Chinese-American with links to his ancestral homeland he knows what is coming. At some point soon UBI will become a necessity to save capitalism, and to stave off a violent revolution. But how can the US enact UBI when the deficit is over a trillion annually, the democrats want free health care for all “undocumented” immigrants, and with the War Machine stomping all over the world like an out-of-control Godzilla.

      • SoftStarLight September 3, 2019 at 1:06 am #

        Yes, Yang is the only one who has seriously discussed automation and UBI. In order for UBI to have any chance to work you would have to end immigration and the War Machine. That plus implement a whole lot of social changes. It’s probably too late and too far gone to seriously address in adequate time.

        • butter56 September 3, 2019 at 11:53 am #

          Ironically, Yang is for unlimited immigration of low skilled people at a time he knows we need fewer of them.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 3, 2019 at 2:09 pm #

            Didn’t know that. But it figures: more Chinese. Giving up ethnocentrism is no easy thing for a Chinaman. He’s sooner give up his won ton dog soup.

            If only Whites had this inner struggle!

            Can a good girl still be sexy? Yes, but only if it is obviously a struggle for her.

          • SoftStarLight September 4, 2019 at 9:40 am #

            Won ton dog soup and sexy good girls :-).

          • Majella September 4, 2019 at 9:31 pm #

            That’s not an accurate description of his views. Just a typical half-lie canard designed to re-inforce pre-existing misconceptions and prejudices.

          • SoftStarLight September 5, 2019 at 12:57 am #

            Is he against open borders? I know he doesn’t see things our way in totality when it comes to immigration and I never expected that. But I do seem to recall him saying something to the effect that he was not for open borders and he did believe our borders should be enforced.

  9. FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 10:48 am #

    The influx of AI and robots should finish us off

    You should perfectly well understand one axiom – Industrial Capitalism NEVER needed any workers and ALWAYS tried to get rid of them in one way or another.

    We gonna have to invent a new form of running the economy.


    • JohnAZ September 2, 2019 at 11:04 am #

      How do you create wealth without human input? That is question #1.

      • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 11:28 am #

        May be it is not about “wealth”, or may be we got a wrong meaning of the word “wealth”.

        • JohnAZ September 2, 2019 at 11:46 am #

          Think about collateral for a loan. How do banks lend money without collateral. Collateral= wealth for expansion.

          Current collateral sources, wealth. Drugs, human trafficking, prostitution, guns etc. Nice.

          • capt spaulding September 2, 2019 at 12:33 pm #

            Read “Rise of the Robots: Technology and the threat of a jobless future.” by Martin Ford. It’s well written, and entirely believable in terms of what seems to be coming.

      • Janos Skorenzy September 2, 2019 at 1:15 pm #

        Good point, Finc. Think in new categories. They have Wealth, and will have more with fewer people to have to share it with. One man can run a factory now. The machines don’t need Unions or Marx so They don’t need those any more either.

        • Robert White September 2, 2019 at 2:41 pm #

          Elon Musk cannot run a factory without the pesky human beings required to assemble the Tesla into a usable form of genocide for the humans that are required to purchase them for posterity sake or environmental carbon credits.

          Robotics & AI will have to unionize in order to fend of the Marxists, Janos. When the Neocapitalist class goes transnationalist it turns out to be a fight against nations rather than Western Capitalist unions. When nations fight they engage in trade war activity which destroys the gains made by AI & Robotics as a whole.

          AI & Robotics will never get anywhere with human beings.


      • Robert White September 2, 2019 at 4:24 pm #

        Albert Einstein solved that conundrum with ‘Compound Interest’ which he characterized as the most powerful force in the world & known means of accumulating wealth without human input aside from initial investment outlay of equity.


        • malthuss September 2, 2019 at 7:31 pm #

          did Al also explain compound inflation?

          • hmuller September 2, 2019 at 9:11 pm #

            Good point, Malthuss. No one ever got rich via money deposited in the bank In the last 75 years only rarely did the interest paid exceed the rate of price inflation.

            So now we have near zero interest rates in the US heading towards negative rates. They already have negative rates in Europe, Japan et al. with 16 trillion in govt (and some corporate) debt instruments now having negative yields.

            So what then happens to ordinary savers and pension funds? In short, they get screwed. When society’s financial engineers provide no incentive for saving in fiat money; when they create vast amounts of such money to cover govt deficits and prop up failing private banks and corporations – it’s an admission of systemic failure.

            Will we see a vortex of cascading defaults and bankruptcies or hyperinflation to ward off insolvency a little longer? This cannot end well; we are past the point of no return.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 2, 2019 at 12:14 pm #

      Well that’s just silly. Perhaps you meant they never valued their workers. And now they seek to get rid of them in favor of machines just as they always sought to replace them with scabs and illegals.

    • SoftStarLight September 2, 2019 at 1:23 pm #

      Yeah real exciting Ivan. Now comes the long awaited global depopulation the masters of the universe have been talking about and planning for such a long time. Wealth and Power above Humanity always and forever, as it was in the beginning so will it be in the end.

      • Majella September 6, 2019 at 5:25 am #


        I don’t doubt that SOMETHING will very likely come along & lay waste to huge swaths of the human population at some time – most likely climate change effects such as good Ol’ ‘biblical’ plagues & the ever reliable drought & famine. Whether it’s a long slow decline or a catastrophic (like over a decade or two), who knows?

        But you’re just deluded to believe there are ‘masters of the universe’ are ‘planning’ something.

  10. Billy Hill September 2, 2019 at 10:50 am #

    Speaking as one who endured Hurricane Michael 10Oct18 I would not wish such on anyone anywhere. My wife and I were lucky in that we could evacuate to a second home. I recall speaking with a new neighbor who had grown up in Florida and “been through lots of these things” and was going to ride it out. After he took a tree through his master bedroom he said to his wife “honey, I don’t think we’re going to make it.”

    Michael was a Cat5 with 165mph winds. Dorian is measuring upwards of that on an island with no escape route available. It is difficult to convey all the emotions that accompany these events: the terrorism as the likely path comes into focus, the resigned final look back at one’s house wondering if it will be there the next day, the aftermath of hundreds of acres of downed trees, ruined structures, people wandering around in shock.

    We’ll be lucky if Dorian remains but a metaphor. Be careful what you wish for.

  11. neon sky September 2, 2019 at 10:50 am #

    Third paragraph, second line. I believe you meant “where” instead of “were.”

    • James Howard Kunstler September 2, 2019 at 11:02 am #

      quite so. Thanks. Fixed.

  12. venuspluto67 September 2, 2019 at 10:53 am #

    Another development that is worth pointing out is that while the price of gold and silver leapfrogged up somewhat, the price of copper (the economic diagnostic properties of which has given this industrially-useful metal the nickname “Dr. Copper”) has gone down about 12.5% (or one-eighth) since its recent height back in April. According to Chris Martenson, those things altogether make for yet another ominous sign that the central-bank money-printing magic is rather past its “best by” date on the box.

    • JohnAZ September 2, 2019 at 11:07 am #

      Gold and silver are capital storage elements, copper is tied to construction. I think copper is a bellwether for the building trades.

      So gold and silver UP, fear, copper down building demand down. = pretty dim forecast

      • venuspluto67 September 2, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

        Silver somewhat has a foot in both worlds, as it is both a precious metal in addition to being a material with several industrial uses (especially in high-tech electronics, if I’m not mistaken).

      • malthuss September 2, 2019 at 7:32 pm #


    • CancelMyCard September 2, 2019 at 11:24 am #

      Copper is the canary in the Industrial Production Mine — a signal of faith in the world’s Corporations abilities to continue fueling expansion and growth.

      Gold the canary in the Central Bank Mine — a signal of faith in the Central Banks’ abilities to maintain a stable world financial system.

      The canaries are singing quite loudly at this point.

      • JohnAZ September 2, 2019 at 11:43 am #

        Outstanding assessment!

      • My Point of View September 2, 2019 at 12:50 pm #

        I have to wonder about the National Chamber of Commerce and its deity of 3% growth.

        Someone please wake these nimrods from their wet dream of 4% growth promised by our great white savior — the birth-rate in the USA isn’t even enough to replace the existing population, much less grow or expand anything. Meanwhile they want to shut the immigration spigot that would provide the growth they worship.

        The only things expanding are our waistlines, Medicare costs and the national debt; all that shit is growing nicely.

        The only things shrinking are our futures, our brains, and the ever-smaller slice of pie the 99% are expected to share.

      • GreenAlba September 2, 2019 at 1:55 pm #

        It’s not when the canary in the mine sings that you need to worry, it’s when it drops off its perch.

        • CancelMyCard September 2, 2019 at 2:26 pm #

          The canary sings the loudest just before it starts to collapse.

          It’s known as its . . . Swan Song.

          • GreenAlba September 2, 2019 at 7:25 pm #

            Logical 🙂

  13. K-Dog September 2, 2019 at 11:05 am #

    Odious as he is to many, history will record one salutary effect of his term in office: the RussiaGate ploy alerted Americans that there truly is a Deep State with its own self-winding agenda.

    True enough though I was one who was fully aware of patriot act details without having to learn about it on the news or anywhere else. Yet I don’t want to dwell on the deep state. Rather it is a place to start. Pentagon Homeland intervention treads the same trail. Throw in a tent revival of the old time religion too. Double down your bets again and will you lose everything this time?

    Its sort of looking that way because the same old same old is not going to work. Taking the tack that deity is actually an emergent phenomena for a moment it looks like we will be fashioning Old Scratch from our cloth of progress and growth. We can work together, or we can die together. Seems we have a choice.

  14. sprawlcapital September 2, 2019 at 11:20 am #

    I am glad that our host mentioned a product of the Frito-Lay company. That gives me an excuse to point out that what JHK has often referred to as Cheese Doodles is, here in the heartland, called Cheetos, a product made by Frito-Lay. (Cheetos are a gourmet corn puff coated with fluorescent orange cheese powder.)

    • elysianfield September 2, 2019 at 1:53 pm #

      Lips that touch “Cheetos” will never touch mine….

      • neon sky September 2, 2019 at 8:03 pm #

        Garbage. Junk food.

        I went to a fine music festival this past weekend. Mostly older grey haired people like myself attended. I’ve gone for the last few years and have had the opportunity to observe my aging generation year to year. What struck me this time was how fat and overweight they have become, in some part from all the easily available junk food.

  15. FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 11:21 am #

    Yet I don’t want to dwell on the deep state. Rather it is a place to start.

    I’d say it’s a place to finish, like in finish off.

    The Sect

    The ritual actions that were supposed to ensure the victory of Hillary (aka Bastinda) in 2016

    Satanic Ritual at the opening of the Gotthard Tunnel 2016

    • PeteAtomic September 2, 2019 at 11:33 am #

      bizarre germans dancing in their underwear

      good grief

      • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 11:36 am #

        What did you expect from the y-tube?

        Scenes of human sacrifices and sex with underaged like DOJ lifted from Huma Abedin laptop?

        • JohnAZ September 2, 2019 at 11:41 am #


          Huma Abedin laptop, Jeff Epstein


        • Majella September 2, 2019 at 7:08 pm #

          Can you supply a link to these files lifted from Abedin’s laptop?

        • malthuss September 2, 2019 at 7:34 pm #

          Epsteins Egyptian Temple. and 100,000 dollars worth of concrete dumped in the death tunnels.

          • SoftStarLight September 3, 2019 at 1:08 am #

            death tunnels?

    • GreenAlba September 2, 2019 at 11:49 am #

      A comment by someone seemingly Swiss under a separate iteration of this footage on YouTube:

      “Until the 20th century the people in the Alps has to endure a hard life. The unforgiving and harsh environment caused a lot of miseries (avalanches, land slides, starvation, death, illness of people and stocks etc.). The religious but mostly illiterate inhabitants of this region tried to make sense all out for it by telling sagas/myths.

      These stories had been recorded by anthropologists and historians during the last two centuries. Nowadays these very strange, sometimes violent and dark sagas are almost not understandable for us with all the trolls, spirits, witches etc. in it. Although these fairy tails are not believed anymore by any sane people as real explanation of nature and human behaviour they became a part of Swiss culture and folklore. This is the reason why symbols of these sagas plays a significant part in this ceremony.

      There is no satanic, diabolic masonic background. It is a normal train tunnel, built by ordinary people, and was celebrated with modern dance performances. This does not mean that I like the ceremony.

      PS: The horned creature is just an ibex, an animal living in the alps.”

      The ceremony wasn’t my cup of tea either, but still…people need to get a grip with the Satanic this and Satanic that. Some things are just ugly.

      • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 11:57 am #

        Good shot, Alba!

        The horned creature is just an ibex, an animal living in the alps

        Is it environmentally protected by the EU laws?

        Bha, ha, ha…

        • GreenAlba September 2, 2019 at 12:05 pm #

          I’m just bringing some calm to the issue before it gets silly, Finca 🙂

          I recall you pointed us to this ceremony before.

          I thought it was ugly, but I’m not Swiss or well versed in spirity folklore, and I’m too much of a pleb to appreciate the finer points of modern dance. However, the current obsession with describing all sorts of creepy-looking things as ‘Satanic’ is just daft.

          When things fall apart, the last thing we need is an increase in nutjobs seeing demons. That way lies madness.

          • capt spaulding September 2, 2019 at 12:36 pm #

            Humans never pass up a chance to act like fools.

          • malthuss September 2, 2019 at 7:36 pm #

            What? You are not a witch in a coven???

            I saw a fat, tattooed gal recently. She had some tatt or tatts I considered….blood, knife, inverted star.

            So I figured I hazard a guess…w a question…

            ARE YOU INTO WICCA?
            She–[harshly] No, Im a witch.

      • Janos Skorenzy September 2, 2019 at 12:17 pm #

        And worship of the Ugly is Satanism. Or worship in an ugly way is a fitting tribute to the Ugly and thus the Ugly One.

        Hope that helps.

        • GreenAlba September 2, 2019 at 12:31 pm #

          No it doesn’t. It’s just more nonsense.

      • Nightowl September 2, 2019 at 3:41 pm #

        Thank you. Was going to post something similar.

        • GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 11:17 am #

          You’re welcome, Nightowl (if you were talking to me). The worrying thing is that under every iteration of this clip on YouTube there’s a list of comments about Satanism, with a few ‘Praise Jesus’es thrown in as a remedy.

          Even the Russian one, which I checked on Google Translate, so I imagine other linguistic versions will be much the same.

          I’m reminded of Francis Wheen’s ‘How Mumbo Jumbo conquered the World’, although his examples weren’t quite the same.

          • Nightowl September 5, 2019 at 5:02 am #

            Yes. As a curious person, I love the Internet, but it should come with instructions.

  16. JohnAZ September 2, 2019 at 11:40 am #

    Watching Dorian, it seems like we have the same situation with the weather we do with everything else.

    Talk, talk, talk. Investigate. Predict. Forecast. Debate. Wager. Agree that catastrophe is approaching.

    Then talk, talk, talk. Investigate. Predict. Forecast. Debate. Wager.

    And so on.

    Bitch, moan,politic, argue, sue. All aimed at one thing, trying to assign a blame target.

    What is missing? Constantly!


    Maybe because there are none and we are in the hands of God and his cousin Mother Nature.

    Just think though, if we stopped the infernal BS that the above incorporates, we would lose 3/4 of our economy.

    • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 11:42 am #

      if we stopped the infernal BS that the above incorporates, we would lose 3/4 of our economy

      That is such a BS.

      Schizophrenics made it all the way UP.

      Not explicit – hidden. That is, they are able to imitate mentally healthy people.

      Not always.

      They surround themselves with their likes. The chance to get there mentally healthy people is negligible. Schizophrenics will destroy them. How to distinguish them from the mentally healthy?

      The key is given in the Bible: “Judge according to their deeds.”

      Behind false words and convoluted semantics they hide their essence. They are not doing what they say… They are not aware of their defect. It seems to them that they are smart and very cunning.

      They do not understand that this is not an intellectual fit, but an animal mimicry. A truly intelligent person benefits himself not by harming others, but by using options in the implementation of which others also benefit.

      • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 11:54 am #

        Anybody you might recognize? Like the upper rank of the FBI, starting with Comey?

      • GreenAlba September 2, 2019 at 11:55 am #

        You posted this already on the previous thread, Finca. Are you sure you’re not thinking of psychopaths? Schizophrenics, without medical intervention, aren’t able to control their own feelings or beliefs, let alone imitate anyone else’s.

        Most of them are manageable, if they comply with their medication regimes, which most of them do, as far as I know (here anyway). Confusing a genuine mental illness with ‘smart and cunning’ people you seem to be tarring as ‘evil’ is bizarre. You can safely leave the bible out of it – it’s a known mental illness.

        • GreenAlba September 2, 2019 at 11:58 am #

          “Schizophrenia is a mental disorder characterized by abnormal behavior, strange speech, and a decreased ability to understand reality. Other symptoms may include false beliefs, unclear or confused thinking, hearing voices that do not exist, reduced social engagement and emotional expression, and lack of motivation.”

          Doesn’t really sound like people able to deliberately imitate anyone, does it?

          • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 12:04 pm #

            Ok, I am not stuck with my diagnosis – I am not a shrink.

            Some of the main groups of mental disorders are:

            — mood disorders (such as depression or bipolar disorder)

            — anxiety disorders.

            — personality disorders.

            — psychotic disorders (such as schizophrenia)

            — eating disorders.

            — trauma-related disorders (such as post-traumatic stress disorder)

            — substance abuse disorders.

            I’d say the cannibals suffer from the eating disorders.

            What about the pedophiles?
            Is it psychotic disorder?

        • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 11:59 am #

          You posted this already on the previous thread, Finca

          I was scared someone might miss it. That’s our #1 problem. Forget the stock market.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 2, 2019 at 12:57 pm #

            Her correction is apt, but again, this is not your first language. There is a brain scan that can detect psychopaths – but we don’t have the balls to use it. And it’s too late since “they” would never allow it since they have already taken over.

          • GreenAlba September 2, 2019 at 1:10 pm #

            I watched a documentary one time about a doctor who identified a gene that was a marker for psychopathy (I don’t recall how universal this was as an indicator). The doctor then discovered to his shock that he had the gene himself.

            However, he’d had a happy childhood, was happily married with a family, and had benefited from nurturing experiences throughout his life, so it seems he escaped the determinism of the gene and was immensely grateful to have done so. There is a lot we don’t know about genetic determinism and environment in such conditions (schizophrenia too, it would seem).

          • malthuss September 2, 2019 at 7:38 pm #

            Green, that is Epigenetics.

          • GreenAlba September 3, 2019 at 12:13 pm #


            And it’s too late since “they” would never allow it since they have already taken over.

            Psychopaths aren’t all the ‘Snakes in suits’ of the book title (I bought it for my daughter when she went to train in London, although I doubt she read it).

            This cute 16-year-old raped and murdered a little girl of six on the Scottish island of Bute, after taking her out of her bedroom at night (he knew the family). She had 117 injuries and he showed not a whit of remorse in court. He said he looked at her and just knew he wanted to kill her. (His mother, to her credit, turned him in when she recognised him on CCTV footage.)


            Others are just low level pains in the arse who cause extra work in A&E departments and police stations every weekend.

            We might like to call them sociopaths instead, but it’s basically the same thing. Fashions change in vocabulary. The Victorians called them moral imbeciles.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 3, 2019 at 2:13 pm #

            Quite so. There are many varieties. Some get along quite well by imitating the externals of human behavior. They may never kill anybody or even break the Law. But they would do so if they had too without a whit of remorse. And of course, they break moral law constantly since nothing restrains them. Luckily, not all are moved towards murder. That would be bad since it’s estimated that they are five percent of the population.

    • In respect to Dorian, the federal government response is already in motion.

      In respect to monetary or economic problems, also, the solution is in motion.

      Solutions are on the table and going to be debated on the next Dem debate. They are going to look like $16 trillion dollars plans to get the nation off fossil fuels among others. Trump is doing Yeoman’s work getting the US to quit China which will lead to increasing profits.

      Precious metals? No confidence. Some people like em. I see pics returns vs. other assets. Real estate is a bubble that could burst, but I don’t see that becoming a Chinese fire drill because we have seen that before.

    • SoftStarLight September 2, 2019 at 1:52 pm #

      Or maybe the proposed solutions don’t really work? Maybe that is why most of the economy and politics is about feigning solutions. If things work then what do the “experts” do?

  17. Epicur September 2, 2019 at 11:46 am #

    “Don’t rule out a Pentagon intervention in the Homeland to straighten that mess out. ”

    It will take massive violence in the streets, like ’68 after the MLK assassination, to bring the military into the fray, but they will just be part of the muscle. The Patriot Act gathers all police in the Nation under DHS in an Emergency.

    Ultimately, we are destined to be governed under the aegis of the Defense Production Act of 1950 (et seq., including the Patriot Act). That’s the only legal fig leaf our future Napoleon can hide behind.

    The American people will not accept anarchy but will demand that the government “do something”. The heart of the matter orbits around who is appointed as Secretary of the various Departments, especially Homeland and Commerce as they will have vast power over the everyday lives of the American people. There could be a rough transition there until “competent” people are found. Ultimately, the President will be a figurehead, appointing Secretaries as “suggested” by the deep state.

    Interesting times…

    • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 11:50 am #

      Not necessarily the Army.

      A well regulated militia, being the best security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed

      • JohnAZ September 2, 2019 at 11:57 am #

        Let’s see, do you think you would get the same response from California or Colorado as the flyover areas.

    • JohnAZ September 2, 2019 at 11:56 am #

      Think about Assad in Syria. Half his country revolted against him, the other half stood fast. That country has committed suicide with lots of outside help.

      Now tell the Federal government how to handle the same situation. Like Assad, how do you order the killing of Americans? And ultimately who are the good guys?

      • Epicur September 2, 2019 at 12:25 pm #

        When the services (food, water, power, etc.) stop flowing, the American people will demand that the government do something about any people interrupting the flow.

        Anarchy can work in a society that is widely distributed and not too far removed from basic subsistence, but not in a complex society. Parts of flyover country (but only parts) could make it, but the cities will tip the balance in favor of government fiat.

        • JohnAZ September 2, 2019 at 12:34 pm #

          The American people will demand —

          Which American people and what will they demand?

          We are not that unified.

          • Epicur September 2, 2019 at 12:48 pm #

            “Which American people and what will they demand? ”

            Mostly, the people who believe they have something to lose in a breakdown of order as opposed to the people who see the breakdown as an opportunity (for looting, e.g.). The people with something to lose will demand order and a resumption of services (food, water, power, etc.).

            Some will see the put-down of the disorderly as regrettable but necessary, others will revel in it.

    • CancelMyCard September 2, 2019 at 3:00 pm #

      The Patriot Act won’t mean a pinch of shit in a full-on collapse.

      The Police in most every community in the country will, each and every one of them, stay in their own homes/neighborhoods to protect their loved ones and friends.

      They WON’T be out in the streets protecting YOU, and leaving their own to fend for themselves against the mobs.

      • malthuss September 2, 2019 at 7:40 pm #

        Ah, the show me my paycheck deal.

        I get that as soon as the wall went, the border guards in East germany disappeared. It was only a job.

        • SpeedyBB September 4, 2019 at 8:27 pm #

          That’s a great observation. Sort of the flip side of ‘Who’ll watch the watchers?’

          Agent Orange and his ilk have likely corroded the extreme flag-waving patriotism that would justify ‘…defense at any price.’ Even his soybean-growing base is apparently deeply concerned.

          He draws huge crowds but that’s likely just for the entertainment. And the lack of anything better to do.

  18. Janos Skorenzy September 2, 2019 at 12:05 pm #

    The Deep State may save the Republic? Huh? They who are funding and enabling its destruction? The Appearance of the Republic? I agree if so amended.

    • Epicur September 2, 2019 at 12:12 pm #

      The Republic is a dead man walking.

      • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 12:20 pm #

        Long live the Christian Anglo-Saxon Empire!

        • Ol' Scratch September 2, 2019 at 1:40 pm #

          Better say a prayer over it. The bitch has both feet in the grave.

        • SoftStarLight September 2, 2019 at 2:03 pm #

          You’re longing for something that doesn’t exist anymore Ivan. Christianity doesn’t exist in any real form in most of the Western World, and where it does it is mostly bastardized to conform with current popular trends. Also, White Anglos are quickly being outnumbered by Brown and Black imports in all of their lands. The Empire is a facade like the Republic. Give me something I can believe in.

  19. Epicur September 2, 2019 at 12:10 pm #

    “Debt accumulation around the world has passed the point where even prayer to every known deity will avail to prevent a horrendously destructive work-out of loans that can never be paid back.”

    Very true, but the spoiler lies in the fact that, in addition to the credit expansion that has fueled all developed economies, the various governments have shouldered the burden of providing the subsistence of their vast unproductive populations. There is no floor under these populations, no small farms or trades on which they can eke out an existence – it is all or nothing and the governments must provide the “all”.

    Eventually, if the unproductive people will not take up arms in service to the states, they will be an onerous burden to the various states. When that realization dawns things will get interesting indeed.

    • Walter B September 2, 2019 at 12:56 pm #

      Once so many in the American consuming public were hoodwinked into believing that debt was income, the marking people took ownership of their souls. My wife and I have many occasions to be made aware of some of the staggering debts that so many of our neighbors carry and it is terrifying. We see numbers like $50K to $80K in credit card debt alone along with mortgages and home equity lines of credit requiring $4 to $^K a month in payments.

      Once cash flow is compromised the end is always slow yet inevitable and the victims slink away quietly in the night. So far, New Englanders and New Yorkers fleeing their own financial Armageddon’s are moving in to take advantage of the somewhat lower tax rates, at least for now. Unfortunately for them, Trenton and our local municipalities are growing more and more desperate for cash and they are taking as much as they can ever year. Unless incomes recover, which they will not, it is only a question of time.

      • Janos Skorenzy September 2, 2019 at 1:01 pm #

        As the engineer in the Titanic movie said, The Titanic will sink. Must sink. It is a mathematical certainty.

        But if the Government changes the System, the leakage might be staunched. Of course a lot of people aren’t going to like what the new system looks like, including may millionaires who will rise no higher and whose millions aren’t worth nearly as much anymore.

  20. Walter B September 2, 2019 at 12:17 pm #

    Happy Fall alright Jim, for a Big Fall is long overdue. I have heard from some in the Blogsphere that the main enemy of the American Experiment, the Federal Reserve, has within it’s power the ability to take down the economy at will to assure Mr. Trump’s demise before next November. My understanding is that this is always a possibility, but if enough of the remaining thinking people understand that they may even be driven into DJT’s arms should this move be played. So what will they do? We must wait and see.

    I have also been reading that the last huge recession took place in 1981-82, which is funny because that what when I was peaking personally and bought my mountainside home out here in the hinterlands. Having moved in the opposite direction as the herd all of my life has had many advantages. Today at our small local level, our anti-corrupt incumbent movement will usher in a new and honest administration if the three of us live to see January 2020. At least for us, change for the better is within site. If history rhymes again I would think that it will be time for the picture to turn South in a big way. I do not look forward to that and I am sad that it could not be averted, but when it happens we are simply going to have to set ourselves against the tide and shovel shit as best we can, right?

    • Epicur September 3, 2019 at 8:42 am #

      ” I have heard from some in the Blogsphere that the main ENEMY [my caps] of the American Experiment, the Federal Reserve, has within it’s power the ability to take down the economy at will to assure Mr. Trump’s demise before next November.”

      “We have met the enemy, and he is us.” – Pogo Possum

      The Fed only has that power because “we” have wanted the credit-fueled growth that exposes us to collapse.

      Easy money has been the desire of a large proportion of the people since the late 19th century, Fed or no Fed.

      Witness William Jennings Bryan’s “Cross of Gold” speech.

      “Having behind us the producing masses of this nation and the world, supported by the commercial interests, the laboring interests and the toilers everywhere, we will answer their demand for a gold standard by saying to them: You shall not press down upon the brow of labor this crown of thorns, you shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold.” William Jennings Bryan, July 8 1896

      We have danced, and now must pay the piper.

  21. Ol' Scratch September 2, 2019 at 1:21 pm #

    Cue the rise of the redistributionists, that is, the people who want the government to determine who gets what and where to get it. Or, shall we say, who to take it from.

    Oh c’mon now Jim, certainly you appreciate the irony in that statement! We’ve been living with fully legalized “free market” redistributionists for going at least 40 years now since the coming of Our Lord and Savior, St. Ronnie Raygun, Hallowed Be His Name. It’s never been a question of redistribution – that’s always been baked into the cake, no matter the flavor of the political ideology of the moment; but rather, who wins and who loses in said redistribution scheme. I’m no particular fan of either party or any persona current on the national political stage, but only a fucking idiot could possibly think that continuing on with the current welfare for the obscenely rich scheme after 40 years of proven failure is a recipe for success. If the private sector ain’t up to the job (as they’ve proven repeatedly that they’re not), then goddamned right I want the government to do it. And if they ain’t up to the job either, well then, I think we all know what comes next, whether anyone likes it or not. I read about it everyday now in my news feed.

    • Ol' Scratch September 2, 2019 at 1:38 pm #

      To add: remember, tax schemes are always the first tool of choice for the redistributionists and unless you’ve been living under a bridge your entire life watching PornTube you’ll know that labor has been getting their ass kicked on that front since the aforementioned St Ronnie came and united both parties on the “Hey, let’s get together and fuck labor in the ass, shall we?” scheme. You don’t have to look any further than that into why we now have totally out of control gun violence in the news everyday. I just wish the shooters would start shooting the right people for a change. Oh, that’s right, the rich can afford to live under lockdown behind their hired security and gated communities, can’t they? It ain’t the immigrants doing us in and taking our jobs, it’s the mostly white male hyper-rich corporate class that’s bringing them in and benefitting from them the most.

      • SoftStarLight September 2, 2019 at 2:16 pm #

        Well now wait one second Ol Scratch. I’m not so sure you can say the immigrants ain’t doing us in. I agree with you that the hyper-corporate class is doing a great job dragging us down but it’s not like open borders doesn’t have a price tag. The price is actually pretty steep but the slow drip of murders, rapes, robberies, assaults, etc., is just not as captivating as a mass shooting. The truth is that open borders has destoyed the social fabric as much as the Elite’s betrayals. Both are evils that would have to be dealt with if anything meaningful is to be accomplished.

        • Nightowl September 2, 2019 at 4:10 pm #

          Not so sure about that. The border isn’t really open for one, and furthermore, the inequality in the system that creates the rage that sparks the violence has been part of the American system for decades.

          Sadly, globalism is simply the next phase. I thought I’d escaped.

          • SoftStarLight September 2, 2019 at 5:56 pm #

            I’m pretty sure that there are plenty of spots where one can simply walk across the US/Mexican border for one. So yes, open borders do exist. Not even to speak of legal immigration which brings over a million people in every year, at least here.

          • Nightowl September 2, 2019 at 6:08 pm #

            It isn’t the same as a policy of open borders, which is what globalists seek. Not even close. The individuals coming in off and on at some of the low-security border points are also illegals.

          • SoftStarLight September 3, 2019 at 1:16 am #

            But what does illegal really mean when ultimately you can stay, work and live without any problems? Most of this is just words and definitions. And you’re right, the actual open border and open borders policies are different. But with the massive flows of legal and illegal immigrants happening now the differences hardly seem to matter. A massive and irreversible shift is underway.

          • Nightowl September 3, 2019 at 4:21 am #

            My point was just that the US does not have open borders and that if one is in the country illegally, they still have to worry about ICE and enforcement mechanisms.

            The long-term test is whether nationalist movements can get candidates in who oppose illegal immigration and globalism.

    • Walter B September 3, 2019 at 7:49 am #

      Yes Scratch my friend, the Mega-Wealthy (you know, the 10% that owns 71% of the wealth in America) never pay any share, much less a fair share of the cost of keeping them wealthy because they OWN the government. They always have and they always will and this has been the case throughout history. It is not going to change because some sell-out politician spews lies about how SheHeIT is going to change it.

      The “wealthy” that they are going to assault for more taxes are the electricians, plumbers, masons and multi-times-pensioned-and re-employed cops and firemen making $250K to $400K a year. Yes the $150K average Joe Family will take it in the shorts too, but is not quite the cash cow that the others are.

      Anyone with a foundation and political power both domestic and abroad not only does not pay anything, but they also receive government subsidies. The only way that we will ever be able to starve the beast is to go broke, period and that will be happening sooner or later, mark my words.

  22. FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 2:04 pm #

    But on the other hand, I am beginning to think that Zionism and Communism often go hand in hand. Am I on the right track? == SSL

    So, you think that Sir Winston Churchill was a Zionist? Or FDR?

    Everything is mixed up in the Oblonskys’ house

    Everything was mixed up in the Oblonskys’ house. My wife found out that ties with the former governess in their home Frenchwoman, and announced to her husband that he could not live in the same house with him … My wife did not leave her rooms, her husband was not home for three days. The children ran around the house as if they were lost; with a housekeeper and wrote a note to a friend asking her to look for a new place, the cook left yesterday from the yard during lunch on me; black cook and the coachman had given.

    Leo Tolstoy. Anna Karenina.

    • BackRowHeckler September 2, 2019 at 2:50 pm #

      Dostoyevski, Pasternak, Dr Chekhov, Tolstoy, you can find an example of about anything under the sun in your great Russian literature.


    • SoftStarLight September 2, 2019 at 5:44 pm #

      Well sorry but I do think Churchill and FDR embraced Zionism. They did so publicly. It is a pesky detail I suppose but don’t you like that? I thought you would be happy that they were favorable to Zionism.

  23. elysianfield September 2, 2019 at 2:19 pm #

    “a general mau-mauing of “racist” America, but they are already overplaying that hand. With the economy tanking, we’ll have enough problems in this land without a race war…”

    Well, at some point the term “racist/racism” has to be deconstructed.

    Racism, in it’s most benign form, involves white angst regarding blacks…not actions, not lynching, just…fear.

    Blacks, feeling themselves victims, will opine “You hate me because I am black….” But this is not necessarily the case.

    Any apologist will agree that black ghetto culture is corrosive, violent, ignorant, and dangerous, when represented in it’s extreme forms. They will agree that blacks are angry, perhaps even sometimes violent, but they will say…”Yes, but….” Excuses will be offered to explain black behavior…to dismiss it as an anomaly, or even celebrate various components.

    But, in truth, white people DO fear ghetto blacks…they may even hate them.

    But not because they are black.

    Maybe they are hated because some prominent examples are just miserable human beings, espousing a culture that cannot exist in a civilized country. There are significant numbers of decent black citizens who do not embrace the worst of their culture…people do not hate them.

    The black criminal, violent, misogynistic, ignorant dope using predator. Those who can explain their every failing as due to the victimization by whites…we hate you.

    But being black has nothing to do with it.

    • Nightowl September 2, 2019 at 4:19 pm #

      It’s classism. People fear blacks (or enter your group of choice) in the ghetto because they live in the ghetto and one expects certain behavior.

      When you encounter blacks, etc., at, for example, a university who are of your social class, you don’t fear them.

      Americans like to pretend class only exists outside of America. America is almost entirely based on class. Money rules all. The big difference is that there are more opps to get rich without being born into it, but there are also more ways to end up broke.

      • elysianfield September 2, 2019 at 7:07 pm #

        “It’s classism”


        Well…there may be elements of classism, but members of any class can be decent, civil human beings. The abject poor? Of course they can be civil. The Wealthy Pro Football players and rappers? Some, not so much….

        • Nightowl September 3, 2019 at 4:24 am #

          I made no comment on the character of any individual within a class. People often think in stereotypes. In America, there are few things worse socially speaking than being poor.

    • benr September 3, 2019 at 4:30 pm #

      Your looking for the word CULTURE!
      gHETTO or gang banger culture.

      • Nightowl September 4, 2019 at 4:27 am #

        And the culture is a result of their position in the class hierarchy.

        Inner city kids are more or less trapped, there are very few ways for them to even begin to achieve what society tells them is important, and in the US that is amassing wealth and power.

  24. SW September 2, 2019 at 2:24 pm #

    Just like in Iraq, there’s no exit plan for this mess that I can see. Maybe more Lay’s flavors — Dumpster Diving and Ketchup, Tent City Bar-b-q, Free School Lunch for Hungry Kids–well, you get the drift. Our leaders really need to get together and star in a sitcom. Trump has never heard of a category 5 hurricane, Cory Booker (as stated in the first debate) wants more attention paid to transgender people of color, Joe Biden isn’t sure who he pinned the medal on and Marianne Williamson could sing All the World Needs Now is Love, Sweet Love. Never, ever loose your sense of humor.

    • S M Tenneshaw September 3, 2019 at 1:56 am #

      And once again Jughead Joe lightens the national mood:

      “The idea that we don’t have elimination of assault type weapons, magazines that can hold multiple bullets in them, it’s absolutely mindless.”

      Maybe he’s auditioning for Comedy Central.

      • BackRowHeckler September 3, 2019 at 7:55 am #

        Cut the guy some slack. He has after all suffered from not one but two brain anuerisms, which may have affected his cognitive abilities.

        Ivy League Psychiatrists have been agitating against Pres Trump, even collaborating on a book claiming the pres is mentally ill and unfit for office. Just wondering if they’re working on a similar book about Biden? Or does it go in only one direction?


    • Nightowl September 4, 2019 at 4:45 am #

      Yes, that media clown at WaPo was in no way dancing for nickels when he claimed that Trump’s joke on cat. 5 hurricanes means that our national level emergency responders will not be able to provide adequate support, due to the President not understanding the severity of the situation.

      FFS, man.

  25. BuckP September 2, 2019 at 3:05 pm #

    Great post Jim! Nice play on words with”Happy Faaallll!!
    Also, an accurate, apt description of Elizabeth Warren “…prancing around the stage in her spandex yoga pants, arms akimbo, head vibrating”. LOL!!!
    What’s not funny is the talk of redistribution. Using history as a guide, redistribution efforts generally don’t work out too well. For instance, the Ukrainian family farmers, kulaks, in the 1920’s and 30’s, in the breadbasket of Europe, under orders from Stalin,had their farms confiscated and given to collectivists and were murdered or shiipped to slave labor camps.The Holmodor, a man-made famine, manufactured by Stalin, in 1932, finished off the Ukrainian village (family) farmer when millions were forcibly, purposely starved. Farm animals were allowed to be fed but food was withheld from Ukrainian farmers.
    Visiting US and British dignitaries at the time, came away favorbly impressed with Stalin’s Russia. Kind of scary when you think about it!!!

    • JohnAZ September 2, 2019 at 4:22 pm #


      There is an entrepreneurial spectrum across the populace.

      Someone once told me that if we redistributed all the capital in the US, in ten years it would be back in the same place as it started as. I think that is true.

      By the way, here is a really good question. If we redistribute the nation’s wealth, do we get to share equally in paying off its debt?

      • Walter B September 2, 2019 at 6:22 pm #

        Why redistribute, it will be too hard to do and perhaps violent. The better answer is to simply print up more cash and hand it over to the poor and the indigent. It will boost all economic activity and in a week or two they will be poor again, no harm, no foul.

      • elysianfield September 2, 2019 at 7:24 pm #

        ” If we redistribute the nation’s wealth, do we get to share equally in paying off its debt?


        …From each, according to his ability….

    • BackRowHeckler September 2, 2019 at 4:23 pm #

      NYT reporter Walter Duranty actually helped Stalin cover it up, reporting all was well, talk of famine were simply provocations, and anyone who said different was a liar and an anti Soviet bigot. For his efforts he won a Pulitzer Prize. American playwrite Erskine Caldwell (Tobacco Road) travelled to Ukraine to lend a hand as well. Many, many writers, actors, intellectuals and professors in the west, including right here in the US, were complicit in this mass murder.

      Here’s how it went down:

      An NKVD rifle company would occupy a Ukranian village, removing all foodstuffs, everything. Then they would surround the village, sealing it off, shooting anybody who tried to leave. At the same time they liked to vandalize and loot the local church, some of them 1000 years old, and when villagers, woman mostly, turned out to defend their church, they would shoot them all. After about 3 months NKVD formations would re enter the village and comb thru cottages and barns, searching for any hidden grain or corn, and shoot any survivors they found, or put them on trains headed for Siberian gulags.

      That’s what you would call Red Terror, showing esteemed Soviet citizens what Marxist power was all about.

      1931-1933 about 7 million human beings were liquidated this way in eastern Ukraine and western Russia. Another 7 million were sent to the gulag. Few survived.


      • BackRowHeckler September 2, 2019 at 4:43 pm #

        And not all the kulaks starved to death or were shot, hell no! Sometimes the NKVD boys like to have a little fun. Why not, after all these better off peasants were blood sucking parasites and enemies of the people, at odds with Soviet power, the worst sort of exploiters if you will. So they would beat them to death with rifle butts, have their guard dogs tear them to pieces, or bury them alive. They would gather up the religious ones, shove them into the local church, and set it afire … Just having a little fun. It apparently was good for morale, keep the troops entertained.


        • BackRowHeckler September 2, 2019 at 6:04 pm #

          Now excuse me while I watch ‘Godzilla vs Megalon’ on this rainy labor day in New England, a Japanese classic.

          • malthuss September 2, 2019 at 7:45 pm #

            Pete Seeger.

        • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 6:11 pm #

          Natural population growth in the United States during the Great Depression declined sharply.

          In the 1930s, a massive famine erupted across America, leading to massive marches and strikes.

          In 1932, crowds of starving Bonus Army veterans from all over America arrived in Washington. The US government crushed the march with tanks and terror.

          In 1932, in Detroit, the police and the private security service of Henry Ford shot a march of starving workers who carried out a hunger march. Five people were killed, dozens injured, objectionable were subjected to repression

          In 1937, during the Steel Strike in Chicago, police spoke out against the masses of workers on strike. According to official figures, the police killed 10 workers and injured several hundred. This event in US historiography is called “Memorial Day Massacre.”

          Overall, it looks like you unaccounted for approx 10 million people during the Great Depression.

          What did you do, did you eat them?

      • BuckP September 2, 2019 at 6:10 pm #

        Very informtive synopsis of this horrific, macabre event – Brh

        In a foolish effort, to recreate the Garden of Eden, the smiley-faced, bespectled, pale, unassuming artists and intellectuals seek to use the machinations of government to accomplish their redistribution of wealth plans so everyone supposedly becomes equal. In a short time, this misguided policy is usually usurped and executed for its own selfish ends by a government run by an authortarian, sociopathic tyrant. The smiley-face is replaced by the heel of a jackboot or the butt of a rifle. Societies and nations are trapped between two extremes: the Garden of Eden and the jungle. Movement towards either end of this spectrum is extremely dangerous for living things!

  26. Ishabaka September 2, 2019 at 3:44 pm #

    “if Mr. Trump manages to not start World War Three in the meantime” – come again? Does Mr. Kuntsler not understand Mr. Trump is the first President since Mr. Carter to not start a new war? Trump IS the pacifist president. Just to clue in the wokesters – there is now an active slave market in Libya, thanks to one of Mr. Obama and Ms. Clintons’s little military adventures, where a sub-Saharan human being can be purchased for as little as $200 US.

    • capt spaulding September 2, 2019 at 8:32 pm #

      I’m waiting for a “buy one, get one free” sale.

  27. FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 5:56 pm #

    The Sect (cont)

    The ritual actions that were supposed to ensure the victory of Hillary (aka Bastinda) in 2016.

    Satanic Ritual at the opening of the Gotthard Tunnel 2016

    The sect, in connection with the inevitable, as it seemed to them, victory of Hillary does not consider it necessary to hide and demonstrates itself in all its glory at the opening of the atomic bomb shelter, where they expect to sit out while their head establishes the New World Order.

    • CancelMyCard September 2, 2019 at 6:18 pm #


      You ALREADY POSTED that same video earlier today.

      How many more times are you going to post it?

      It’s total bullshit, you know it, your mother knows it, and everybody here knows it.

      Knock it off.

      • malthuss September 2, 2019 at 7:46 pm #

        Satanism is all too real.

        • GreenAlba September 3, 2019 at 6:44 am #

          So are shoe fetishes, yet a shoe is still just a shoe.

          • benr September 3, 2019 at 4:33 pm #

            Unless it has been inserted rectally then it is a pain n the ass.

          • GreenAlba September 3, 2019 at 7:15 pm #

            I wasn’t familiar with the protocols, benr. 🙂

          • benr September 4, 2019 at 10:42 am #


            You telling me you never been in fight in your life?
            There are verbal as well as physical ass kicking’s by the way.

          • GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 11:27 am #

            Sorry, I misunderstood you, benr. Since we were on the subject of shoe fetishes, I didn’t realise you meant the shoe was attached to someone’s foot. I took ‘inserted’ too literally. 🙂

            I’ve never been in a physical fight, though – once a primary school boy (classmate) kicked me very hard in the rear (nowhere near school), for some reason I don’t recall. I do recall it was very painful. Hard shoes.

            I’ve had words with husbands. Nothing remotely reminiscent of an ass kicking though. I’m pretty civilised!

  28. DurangoKid September 2, 2019 at 6:29 pm #

    I just finished watching a video of dumb things people did while trying to launch rockets. A few of the spectacular failures were malfunctions in the inertial guidance systems. In any control system there is an error signal that indicates the variance from the desired condition. When the error signal goes missing or is misinterpreted, trouble follows. In the case of a Russian rocket, a technician mounted some accelerometers upside down. With a hammer. The designer had included some guide pins so as to insure their proper orientation. His lesson might have been ‘when you make something idiot proof, a better idiot comes along.’ Or perhaps ‘don’t argue with a man with a hammer.’

    Anywho, it struck me that these ill-fated rockets have some similarities with the economy. Money is taken to be a proxy of all things labor, commodity, land, and time value. But that information can be corrupted by subsidy, monopoly, and fraud. Like the upside down accelerometer it’s sending the wrong signal. The real economy is made up of people trading matter, energy, time, and space. As Yanis Varoufakis, former money guy for the Greek government, points out, none of these four parameters are represented in the economic models. The financial class takes this bad information and runs with it just like a rocket with a wonky accelerometer. As we all know, the bigger they are, the harder they fall. Duck and cover?

  29. Pucker September 2, 2019 at 6:43 pm #

    Isn’t the allusion to the “Red Dragon” from the “
    Book of Revelation”?

  30. What has Trump done for the swing voter? not much

    Dems will be offering free school, training, tax relief, cash-in-hand, debt forgiveness, food stamps, vouchers, and action on climate change.

    Meanwhile Greta is talking to representatives of the United Nations.

    “Around the year 2030, we will be in a position where we probably set off an irreversible chain reaction beyond human control, that will most likely lead to the end of our civilization as we know it. That is unless in that time, permanent and unprecedented changes in all aspects of industrialized society have taken place. Including a reduction of our CO2 emissions by at least 50%. And please note that these calculations are depending on inventions that have not yet been invented at scale. Furthermore these scientific calculations do not include most unforeseen tipping points and feed back loops. Nor do these calculations include already locked in warming hidden by toxic air pollution. Nor the aspect of equity, which is absolutely necessary to make the Paris Agreement work on a global scale. And these calculations are not opinions or wild guesses.?These projections are backed up by scientific facts, concluded by all nations through the IPCC. So if we are to stay below the 1,5 degrees of warming limit, which is still possible within the laws of physics, we need to change almost everything. We need to start living within the planetary boundaries. This will be a drastic change for many, but not for most.”

    • BackRowHeckler September 2, 2019 at 8:19 pm #


      Are you saying that’s a speech written by a 16 year old girl, who is autistic, and whos first language is not English?

      At any rate, the event that caused “the end of civilization as we know it” happened in August, 1914. Greta is too late.


      • Nightowl September 4, 2019 at 8:30 am #

        It is as if the progs decided that the best way to combat the NPC meme would be to use one as a spokesperson.

    • elysianfield September 2, 2019 at 11:12 pm #

      “still possible within the laws of physics, we need to change almost everything. We need to start living within the planetary boundaries. This will be a drastic change for many…”.

      Sweet Greta,
      …Good luck with that.

      • BackRowHeckler September 3, 2019 at 6:12 am #

        Yeah, as if her handlers at the UN are eager to give up their perqs and begin “living within planetary boundaries”. That means me and you freezing our asses off inside our houses in the winter, and giving up our motor vehicles, due to lack of fuel, rest assured the UN building will be heated to a warm 72°F all winter no matter what; chauffered trips to JFK airport for flights the world over will remain routine.


  31. Tate September 2, 2019 at 7:04 pm #

    I know I’m going to get lambasted for writing this. GreenAlba will whine that it’s not being posted in the correct thread, but as she very well knows, she can get away with a lot of rubbish by insisting it be that way by posting her latest at a place where it won’t be read & where I’m less likely to respond. That’s why I’m posting it here where it belongs among the most recent comments. This is in regard to the subject of Brexit.

    You wrote, GreenAlba, that we should “park” the gym analogy, that it isn’t the point. Well, then why did you originate it? You must have thought it was germane when you wrote it. Now you want to drop the subject after I showed it to be flawed. Hmmm, that’s very convenient for you, but fine, I won’t mention it again.

    Now, just because I suggest a way that the sheep-farmers might adjust to tariffs, you attack me as a ‘neo-liberal.’ I’ve been called a lot of things but, lol a ‘neo-liberal’ certainly never. Call me a racist, a bigot, a misogynist, a homophobe, an islamophobe, but don’t call me a ‘neo-liberal.’ In fact, not that I’m into all that ‘You’re the real X,’ kind of taunt, but it does seem a little odd that it’s you who so unswervingly supports the whole E.U. project against the wishes of the patriotic British people who want their country back from the Globalists. That’s the epitomy of neo-liberalism, as far as I understand it.

    Occasionally suggesting a market response to a problem within a sovereign nation’s own borders isn’t ‘neo-liberalism,’ unless you happen to be an attack dog of the New World Order, as you do seem to be (& the EU project is a part of that).

    The reason a no-deal Brexit is going forward, as far as I’ve been able to tell, is because of the bad-faith dealing of those who never wanted to leave, such as Theresa May. It may be none of my business as a U.S. citizen, & if U.S. corporations benefit from a no-deal Brexit, then maybe that is undeserved, from your perspective, but the fact of the matter is that these so-called “U.S. corporations” are anything but.

    The fact that many of them began their existence in the U.S. shouldn’t obscure from the fact that they are stateless entities who know no loyalty to any country or its people. These globalist behemoths are no more American than they are any other nationality, including British. In fact, many of them if you trace their origins back far enough, got their start with British capital. The elites who run them, if they hold U.S. citizenship, are no more American than an oceanic shark. Their residency in the U.S. is a legal fiction.

    They have trampled this country, the U.S.A., & its people underfoot & ground them into humiliation, insults, drug addiction & poverty for years but throughout you could lift your nose in the air to us because it didn’t affect your tidy lot in the world & your feelings of moral superiority. But now the chickens are coming home to roost. The British rank-&-file rebelled against these rootless cosmopolitans when they were finally given the rare opportunity but as with the U.S. in electing Trump we can see with the attempted silent coup of ‘Russia-gate’ the elites at work behind the scenes to decertify the results. All is laid bare to the rottenness at the core. The people understand this. But you continue to insist that it’s all about calculations of human comfort & that no larger issues are in play.

    Also, I didn’t make that comment about my health because I was gloating about my good health. I really don’t know why I should deserve anything in the way of good health. You accuse me of saying “f*ck them — my tests were all negative, why am I so lucky? Your ‘Christianity’ is a beacon in a wilderness.”

    But I never said any such thing as you well know. This is something you entirely made up. I was thinking of my younger brother, who has just been diagnosed with prostate cancer. He’s also Christian, so it has nothing to do with Christianity. Why would it? And why would you think I thought it did?

    • Dude thats nothing.

      Akmofo said you “seduce and copulate with molested animals”.
      ( )

      • Tate September 2, 2019 at 7:29 pm #

        Yeah, that’s funny. Akmofo faded away after that gaffe.

        • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 7:35 pm #

          Mofo was a crazy muzefuker, may be even a bad-ass Zionist, what do you think, SSL?

          Oh, what I am saying, I am a Zionist myself – Orthodox Zionist.

          • CancelMyCard September 2, 2019 at 7:51 pm #

            Orthodox zionists shave their heads and faces a certain way.

            Do you do that Finca?

            Can you show us a photo?

          • SoftStarLight September 3, 2019 at 1:32 am #

            He was a maniac and we argued incessantly. Where is he? And you. After the way you spoke to me you happily wear your Zionist cloak. You have a lot of nerve!

          • Janos Skorenzy September 3, 2019 at 2:19 pm #

            Orthodox – trying to conflate the polar opposites of Orthodox Judaism and Orthodox Christianity.

            Don’t knock it – this kind of thing works. Most people are just a word away from utter confusion all the time.

    • Tate September 2, 2019 at 7:27 pm #

      Occasionally suggesting a market response to a problem within a sovereign nation’s own borders isn’t ‘neo-liberalism,’ [except to those such as yourself who might want to muddy the issue] happen[ing] to be an attack dog of the New World Order… (& the EU project is a part of that).

    • GreenAlba September 2, 2019 at 8:42 pm #

      “ she can get away with a lot of rubbish by insisting it be that way by posting her latest at a place where it won’t be read & where I’m less likely to respond. “

      My sympathies on your neurosis, Tate. You wrote a post in the evening, after I’d gone to bed (you will recall we have a time difference of at least five hours) and I saw it in the morning and replied to it when I saw it. I’m not going to get up at four in the morning on the off chance that you’d reply to a post of mine (my original question was to Finca anyway, not you – you jump in then complain when I reply to you).

      I do not ‘’unswervingly support the whole EU project’ – I have made this abundantly clear. Your bad faith does you no credit. Try listening to or reading Yanos Varoufakis on the subject of the EU. He has no respect for its leaders and disdain for its treatment of Greece, but considers that the UK is mad for leaving. I agree with his reasoning, although I came by mine independently. There seems to be a belief in certain circles that the EU is doomed. If it is, a country which has a better deal with the EU than any other country within it needs its head examining if it chooses to shoot itself in the foot economically rather than take advantage of its membership while it still can. Should it eventually collapse, the UK would have been the least affected, since it is not even in the Eurozone.

      Your logic suggests you believe that the 63% of the electorate who did not vote for Brexit are evil globalists. Permit me to suggest that this is foolish. The alternative to EU membership, for the UK, is not any kind of genuine ‘independence’, it is kowtowing to the US and to the rest of the globalist system. You think putting UK farmers out of business so that we can be inundated with imported low-regulation produce beloved of globalist agribusiness is anti-globalist? I just find your thinking naïve.

      “unless you happen to be an attack dog of the New World Order, as you do seem to be (& the EU project is a part of that).”

      Likewise, unsubstantiated calumny.

      “ The reason a no-deal Brexit is going forward, as far as I’ve been able to tell, is because of the bad-faith dealing of those who never wanted to leave, such as Theresa May.”

      Perhaps you can clarify:

      What was the bad-faith dealing? Waffle won’t answer the question, which requires specifics about your criticisms of the points under negotiation. Otherwise you’re just repeating platitudes. I’m not impressed by Theresa May in general, but she negotiated a Withdrawal Agreement that even Jacob Rees-Mogg ultimately voted for in Parliament. So, please, some details of your gripes.

      Regarding your rather long diatribe about corporations, I was referring specifically, as I have done in the past, to your industrial farming sector and to your healthcare sector. Your healthcare sector owes absolutely nothing to the UK – it’s entirely home grown – and I don’t want it eating the NHS for breakfast. It is already salivating. With regard to your industrial farming and processing sectors, the reason that they follow regulations of such a low standard compared to the UK and the rest of the EU is that you people keep voting for low regulation. So the reason that you have growth hormones in your beef and have ten times as much food poisoning as an equivalent population in the UK is because of your ideological beliefs. I am not a believer in a race to the bottom when it comes to health or food.

      “Also, I didn’t make that comment about my health because I was gloating about my good health…

      My point about your Christianity was nothing to do with your brother.

      You wrote a post about your amazing good health, which bore no relation to anything at all except that it followed comments about cancer and the potential risks to cancer sufferers following a no-deal Brexit, in terms of supplies for nuclear medicine and the availability of cancer medications. It sounded gloating, in the context – what can I say? I said at the time I had no idea what the point of your post was.

    • Nightowl September 4, 2019 at 8:33 am #

      I think my comment from earlier in the thread bears repeating. The fact that some folks can’t comprehend globalism is amazing.

      American multi-nationals don’t care about America or any nation, beyond what they can suck out of them.

      • GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 10:38 am #

        I have tried to reply to you, Nightowl – at least a dozen times – but the blog gods won’t let me. I’ve even rebooted four times. I’m willing to bet they let this one through. I’ll try again periodically with the proper response. They’re letting me respond to other comments but not this one. Even if I don’t try to nest it under yours. Whimsical, erratic and capricious gods are the worst ones.

        • GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 10:39 am #

          Like I said!

        • GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 10:41 am #

          I agree, Nightowl. I also agree that the EU is a neoliberal project (although it incorporates a lot of anti-neoliberal protections for its citizens, compared to somewhere like the US). But I also believe that Brexit, as conceived by its extreme ideological pushers, as opposed to the majority who voted for it, is a neoliberal’s wet dream.

          Neoliberalism is characterized by free market trade, deregulation of financial markets, individualisation, and the shift away from state welfare provision.

          Yes, that’s Jacob Rees-Mogg’s Brexit in a nutshell.

          Singapore on Thames.

          Minimisation of protections for workers, consumers and the environment.

          Minimisation of restrictions on financiers like himself and Redwood, who shift their investments out of the UK after persuading people to vote for Brexit. And whose mates make a fortune on shorting the pound as a result of their shenanigans.

          Which EU member fought tooth and nail against the EU’s attempts at financial regulation? Yep, that’s the one. I know someone whose husband spent his life (after being a Thatcher adviser) lobbying in Brussels against exactly that financial regulation.

          Neoliberalism and globalism come in more than one shade, as many don’t want to see. Most people, even some clever people, like a simple, linear narrative. Reality tends to be more complicated. Sometimes you only get to choose your poison – preferably the one that’s going to do the least harm to the most people.

          Brexit needs to happen. But a no-deal Brexit is going to screw the very people it claims to benefit.

          And you’re right, the UK kowtowing to the US post-Brexit is a means of the UK kowtowing to multinationals. Globalism par excellence. What a choice.

          • GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 10:46 am #

            It didn’t seem to like the link I included on Brexit as a neoliberal project. I’ve tried pasting it in bits with gaps between and it just won’t take it. Beyond my IT skills.

          • GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 10:47 am #

            Must be the non-EU globalist gods 🙂

          • GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 10:49 am #

            The definition of Neoliberalism was meant to be in italics, as a quote.

          • Nightowl September 5, 2019 at 5:13 am #

            I certainly agree that the EU is not all bad. There are protections here in Germany that big pharma and agriculture have been trying to plow through for years (unfortunately with some success, too). And with regard to trade, the EU has been quite beneficial to smaller economies.

            I am no expert on Brexit, and do not know what an optimal situation would look like in terms of a deal. I just tend to have an allergic reaction to centralization, and there have been some worrying developments on the mainland these past few years.

          • GreenAlba September 5, 2019 at 11:21 am #

            I agree with you on the over-centralisation issue, Nightowl. I’m sure many of us would be happier with Common Market 2.0, but I will willingly admit to liking most of the environmental and food safety protections. And we have to make choices on the basis of what is on offer at the moment.

            I agree the amount of lobbying by the likes of Bayer/Monsanto is dreadful and it does seem to pay off, with the backlash often happening on a national level, as with glyphosate.

            On the other hand (regarding the whole political union thing), both Trump and Putin want to see the EU collapse, which makes me wary.

            Digressing slightly, I was listening to William Waldegrave (ex Thatcher Tory minister – hadn’t seen him for decades) talking last night about Brexit and he said some very sensible things, not accusing Brexiters of being imperial nostalgics but saying that the UK seriously needs to retire its delusions about its current place in the world and live as a medium-sized country and economy without fantasising about what it was in the 1940s.

            All true. It’s partly these fantasies that keep it hanging on to the US’ coat tails, citing the ‘special relationship’ when it comes to those military adventures we should never have got involved in. Regarding Iraq, the EU was right and the UK was wrong, and it was our Atlantic-leaning face that got us into trouble, not our membership of the EU.

  32. FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 7:20 pm #

    You ALREADY POSTED that same video earlier today.
    How many more times are you going to post it?
    == CancelMyCard

    I don’t know, CMC, I was thinking may be some of you know from personal experience about that stuff, I mean ritual cannibalism and pedophilia, but don’t want to rock the boat, so to speak.

    There was a case when a 21-month old Russian boy was slowly cooked alive for 9 hours in the locked car on a parking lot in a 90-degree heat by his American adoptive parent – the court exonerate the parent, well, some Russian Ivan – who cares?

    Russians were so pissed that Putin had to pass the law prohibiting Americans from adopting Russian children – remember the famous meeting between Don Junior and Veselnitskaya?

    • No one remembers partly because the United States has lots of ties with other Nations and so, you can understand why we were preoccupied.

      The other aspect is Americans in general are generally unaware of the extent of Christian and religious efforts to immigrate large numbers of people, including children.

      • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 7:37 pm #

        Bring em more, you’ll never run out of food!

      • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 7:39 pm #

        You, patronizing prick!

        • CancelMyCard September 2, 2019 at 7:55 pm #


          I was under the impression that Snacks was a Woman!!!!!

          Oh Snacks, can you give us the Answer???

          • GreenAlba September 3, 2019 at 9:28 am #

            I have never thought of Snacks as anything other than male. Not from anything specific s/he said, just that old intuition thing about a way of writing.

            Of course I may be entirely wrong, which would put that old intuition thing in its place. 🙂

            But I don’t think Snacks is going to enlighten us. It would be fun to keep people guessing, I think.

          • Majella September 6, 2019 at 5:27 am #


    • K-Dog September 2, 2019 at 7:41 pm #


      What do you know about the crisis of the 14th century. Did bad agricultural practices affect the Ukraine or whatever it was called back then? Replacing food crops with industrial crops for dyes and other products led to starvation in Europe. How about Russia? Failure to rotate crops made things worse and Europe was overpopulated. The plague was icing on the cake, like Miley Cyrus now.

      What do you know?

      • CancelMyCard September 2, 2019 at 7:59 pm #

        He doesn’t know shit.

        He pontificates bullshit history with his own queer view of things.

        Sort of like looking through a pair of glasses with warped lenses.

        Everything you see is modulated by below-the-surface nonsense.

        There you have it . . .

        . . . . Finca’s worldview explained in less that 2 minutes.

        • Janos Skorenzy September 3, 2019 at 2:21 pm #

          Russians are very odd as any other Eastern European will tell you. Too much Tartar blood. And scratch a Tartar, find a Khazar.

          • Majella September 6, 2019 at 5:28 am #

            Oh, those f*%<£¥Ng Jews again….

      • BackRowHeckler September 2, 2019 at 8:30 pm #

        Kdog, there’s a book about that exact subject, will answer your question.

        ‘A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 14th Century’, Barbara Tuchman.


        • Majella September 2, 2019 at 8:54 pm #

          Read that…’distant’ is the key point, I found. It was difficult to relate to the lives of people of that time.

          • K-Dog September 3, 2019 at 2:10 am #


            It looks like the parallels are just beginning. The distance is shrinking.

            The recurring black shadow of pestilence carrying its message of guilt and sin and the hostility of God.>

            Yeah, just the thing to enjoy with your “fried pickle with ranch [dressing] flavored” potato chips. Pestilence will be a new fast fashion someday soon. Coming to a phone screen near you. Perhaps your own.

          • K-Dog September 3, 2019 at 10:59 am #

            This from another source.

            Within Europe, we see an even larger crisis. Although previous centuries had seen population increases throughout Europe, the declining climatic situation led to harsh winters and wet summers, resulting in various famines, notably the Great Famine of 1315-1322. Also, the declining quality of arable land, with soils being exhausted, combined with the climatic change, killed millions.

            All they needed was Trump in a codpiece.

    • Majella September 4, 2019 at 4:47 pm #


  33. Pucker September 2, 2019 at 7:33 pm #

    Don’t you think that it’s a bit odd that President Grant, on the one hand, put naive pacifist Bible-thumping Quakers in charge of the civilian leadership of “Indian Pacification Policy”, while, on the other hand, installing genocidal maniacs, like Sherman, Sheridan, Custer, McKenzie, etc. in charge of military policy? What gives?

  34. Majella September 2, 2019 at 7:59 pm #

    The Collapse

    This YT video is short and very much to the point.

    Here’s a UK investment manager pointing out what, in his view, are the fundamental reasons for our collective trepidation:

    • CancelMyCard September 2, 2019 at 8:05 pm #


      This guy has absolutely nothing new.

      If you are alert and have been following world events closely,

      This is not a “Real Awakening”.

      Sorry to be the first person to inform you of that.

      • Majella September 2, 2019 at 8:25 pm #


        I know there’s nothing new, particularly, in what he’s saying, but:

        > he has the ‘credentials’ of an investment manager and
        > he’s NOT talking the usual “Pip! pip! Tally-ho, old chap!” bullshit that so many ‘establishment’ talking heads do.

        He also puts it all together in a succinct package, and it may be a useful share to those we know who are not as aware or alert to the impending doom as the denizens of CFN are. I’ve spread it far & wide to family & friends.

      • Majella September 2, 2019 at 8:31 pm #

        Also, I assume you did actually let it run for at least some of the grueling 18 minutes before you wrote it off?

        For example, what did you think of his analysis that, as far as China is concerned, it’s in deficit vis-a-vis the US market when services and intra-China-sited US businesses are included, along with the raw ‘trade deficit’ in physical goods?

        • CancelMyCard September 2, 2019 at 8:47 pm #

          The painful part of the China thing is that both countries are going to suffer . . .

          . . . suffer because of the massive egos of their masters.

          Neither of them will want to “lose face.”

          Which is just macho bullshit posturing nonsense.

          Fuck the situation that we have 2 monstrous egos massively screwing the world because of their tiny penises.

          • benr September 4, 2019 at 10:44 am #

            Someone has been peeking at the urinal?
            That my friend is not only wrong but gross.

      • Majella September 2, 2019 at 8:34 pm #

        Actually, the time-stamps show you posted just 6 minutes after I put that there, so, on what are you actually basing your criticism?

        It can’t be on what he has to say, that’s for sure. Is it just a desire to signal some sort of intellectual superiority?

        • CancelMyCard September 2, 2019 at 8:41 pm #


          I’ve seen the very same YouTube video before.

          It was posted on ZeroHedge earlier.

          Sorry to disappoint you.

          • Majella September 2, 2019 at 8:48 pm #

            Occam’s razor!

          • CancelMyCard September 2, 2019 at 8:52 pm #

            Occam had a lot more in his kit than a razor.

            He had a sharp brain.

            That is often of far more use than a razor.

    • BackRowHeckler September 2, 2019 at 8:58 pm #

      A little bit above my my level of understanding of economics, but a sobering assessment nevertheless. Makes me worry.

      • CancelMyCard September 2, 2019 at 9:03 pm #

        You should be worried.




        Seriously Dude, it is time to prep your ass off.

        Store as much valuable stuff as you possibly can.

        Valuable Stuff.

        Do lt, Do It now.

        You will be happier later if you follow this advise.

        • BackRowHeckler September 2, 2019 at 9:06 pm #

          Nah, I’ll just wing it like I always have.

          • CancelMyCard September 2, 2019 at 9:08 pm #


            Good for you!

            Winging it has its merits!

            Seriously, when you wing it, your are prepped for everything at the moment.

            How well you handle it . . . well that’s another story.

          • BackRowHeckler September 2, 2019 at 9:33 pm #

            Well, I have a case of bottled water somewhere in the garage. Does that count?

          • GreenAlba September 3, 2019 at 8:12 am #

            That will give you a breather, brh. I have a single bottle of paraffin in the cupboard and a paraffin lamp in the kitchen which I bought in the 1980s during the miners’ strike, when we had blackouts. Most if it’s still there.

            I also have a good supply of candles. So we’ll be fine for light for about a fortnight! Not so blessed if water stops coming from the taps, though. That will be The End.

            I’m not stocking up either. Delaying the inevitable is a bit pointless, to my mind, unless you’re entirely self-sufficient, which I never can be. And, like everyone else I’ve got glass windows and a front door not resembling anything on Fort Knox, so there is nothing I have or could acquire that can’t be stolen, including my home itself.

            Sometimes being mentally prepared is all you can do, but that’s worth something. I recall Orlov (who said that too, I think) in his first collapse book talking about the middle-aged men with careers who had less resilience than most to the collapse of the USSR because their career was the structure of their life. Many turned to suicide or drink. (I also remember all the battered and/or murdered grannies clubbed for the contents of their purse, but I won’t dwell on that.)

            I won’t be turning to drink (except possibly as an aid to a reasonable exit) but I don’t discount self-removal as a rational response to some situations, but only once there’s nothing left that I can do for my children/grandson.

  35. BackRowHeckler September 2, 2019 at 9:05 pm #

    On the other hand, Jims latest podcast is an interview with Richard Vague, talking about his book ‘A Brief History of Doom’. Its worth a listen; I was surprised, despite the title of the book the author is really quite optimistic and hopeful.


    • CancelMyCard September 2, 2019 at 9:11 pm #

      I can’t STAND Optimistic and Hopeful

      What is the MATTER with these people with their O+M viewpoint???


      Wait till it happens to you and yours.

      • Nightowl September 3, 2019 at 7:55 am #

        If you lose optimism you fall into despair.

        Just as when you continue to get your blood pressure up over fake “orange man bad” news, you re-traumatize yourself over and over, fucking up neural response pathways until you are a quivering mess that falls into despair and gives up on life.

        The more one knows and all …

        • benr September 4, 2019 at 10:46 am #

          How is one so weak kneed as to get all Trump deranged?
          I have several people I work with that get triggered and call in sick if they get to much Trumpian trolling.

          • Nightowl September 5, 2019 at 4:52 am #

            I, too, have a hard time understanding it on some levels, but I do understand trauma (my wife is a psych.). A lot of people don’t realize that the media utlizes psychological trauma to influence thought patterns. When you research this a bit (starting with Edward Bernays), it begins to make sense the people lose their minds when seeing a red hat, or even at the mention of Trump.

            They have literally been conditioned, and are retraumatized each time they read about the latest outrage (which is, as we know, also often fake or so grossly exaggerated as to be a lie). Media has been weaponized, and it is much worse than many realize.

  36. capt spaulding September 2, 2019 at 9:06 pm #

    I see on the news that Trump is golfing in Virginia today, however he is receiving hourly reports on the progress of hurricane Dorian. Also, as a further sign of his concern, he is considering not playing a full 18 holes, and instead cutting back to 9.

    I read somewhere that since taking office, Trump has gone golfing 213 times, at a cost to taxpayers of 100 million dollars. That’s a small price to pay for the quality of leadership we are getting at this time, in fact many of his supporters would consider that a bargain.

    • CancelMyCard September 2, 2019 at 9:14 pm #

      Trump Gold is a surreal world.

      It has been documented many, many, times how much he cheats at this stupid game.

      But, that is the story of his life . . .

      Cheat, cheat, cheat,

      lie, lie, lie,

      fuck over everybody who ever trusted you.

      Yep, that’s our boy Trump.

      Fucking Asshole par excellence.

      • CancelMyCard September 2, 2019 at 9:15 pm #

        Trump Golf . . .

        • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 10:12 pm #

          Fucking Asshole par excellence?

          Have you noticed, CFNers, how some obscure members of the herd, known for posting maybe 3 comments during 5 months, become activated for some unknown reason?

          I believe last time it happened with “seawolf”.

          Did they, like Esau, sold their birthright (in this case a logon id) for a lentil soup?

          • Nightowl September 3, 2019 at 7:51 am #

            Yes. They are entertaining though. Somewhere some one is dancing for those nickels.

    • Walter B September 3, 2019 at 7:01 am #

      I hope that you bitched as loudly when Eisenhower, Bush, Clinton, and Obama played just as much at the same relative expenses buddy because that is what they all do.

      • capt spaulding September 3, 2019 at 8:06 am #

        Fuck ’em all.

        • Walter B September 3, 2019 at 8:45 am #

          That’s the ticket!

        • SoftStarLight September 3, 2019 at 12:24 pm #

          Do you feel any better? I’m still upset and unable to move on.

  37. FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 9:21 pm #

    Dormition of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Executive Summary

    This post is the conclusion of a series of 7 recent posts on the impact of a different understanding of the Mystery of the Assumption of the Virgin on geopolitics over the past thousand years.

    1. Archpriest Andrei Tkachev very coherently sets out the Orthodox point of view on the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary – “This is a Great Mystery”

    2. It is alleged that the Great Schism is the result of the deliberate efforts of a certain sect that felt the opportunity to split the Church by organizing an Auto-da-fé of community of Orthodox Christians in Northern Italy in 1028, and which I call a Black World Project based on the results of its participation in the War of the Roses in 1455 – 1487, during which Red and White world projects were articulated as ways of counteracting the Roman Church, in which power was seized by the anti-Christian sect.

    3. On the issue of the ignorance of darkness and the darkness of ignorance. A connection is shown between the results of a historical study of the activity of the sect by the formation of the Russian monarchy and the articulation of the historiosophy of Eurasianism, taking into account the circumstances of the arrest and death of pedophile Epstein, which revealed his connection with the sect.

    4. Katechon and Boris Johnson On the relationship of the sect with Brexit and the nature of the English monarchy.

    5. Assumption and theory of world projects 2
    The post describes how the results of the study of the history of the sect affect the understanding of the difference between the Russian and Western mentalities as the result of the Great Schism, which today determines the political antagonism of Russia and the globalist West.

    4. Dormition of the Blessed Virgin Mary and theory of world projects 3

    The similarity of the sect of Epstein and the sect of Gilles de Rais (as well as of Joan of Arc) is described, which made us reconsider some aspects of the theory of world projects, in particular, translate the assumptions about the original connection of the Knights Templar and the leader of the Fourth Crusade Boniface I of Monferrat with the Sect , who organized the heretic of the heretics Monforte, into the category of historical fact, which showed that a misunderstanding in the West of the teachings of Maxim the Confessor about the transmission of original sin through sexual intercourse, further turned into the dogma of the Roman Church of the Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary, created the preconditions for provoking the Great Schism and the organization of anti-Christian Fourth Crusade, which began with the invasion of England by William the Conqueror and ended with the Albigensian Crusade.

    5. The sect, in connection with the seemingly inevitable victory of Hillary Clinton, does not consider it necessary to hide and demonstrates itself in all its glory at the opening of the atomic bomb shelter, where they expect to sit out while their head establishes the New World Order.

    And in this post I will not repeat all the time that all of the following is a hypothesis, and for the sake of simplicity of presentation of a rather complicated material, I will talk about it as facts, especially since the events of the past week really transferred many conclusions from the category of assumptions to the category of facts.

    So, according to the stated hypothesis, dictated by the reversible historiography of the events connected with the fire on Losharik, which really put mankind on the edge of the abyss as never before close to the Last Judgment, in about 1022 a certain sect or even several sects of Gnostics united against a religious group practicing in mystical asceticism in northern Italy, in the vicinity of a certain “Mons fortis” – a fortified mountain. It is unknown where this mountain was located, but the archbishop of Milan Aribert led the destruction of this group, although there are very serious reasons to believe that the sect used him without his consent, which does not relieve him of responsibility for this crime.

    In addition, my inner voice tells to me that this place is now called Sacro Monte di Crea and it is located in the middle between Turin and Milan, which, after the auto-da-fé, became part of the possessions of the Margrave Montferrat, glorified in the black sense
    Boniface I of Montferrat, who led the siege of Constantinople and became the first Latin king of Thessalonica.

    Moreover, until recently, the heretics of Monforte were considered dualists, the forerunners of Cathars, but the events after the fire on Losharik force me to conclude that the Albigensian Crusade was primarily aimed at the Orthodox Gallo-Romans of Languedoc, and the persecution of dualists was a cover operation to hide the anti-Christian character of the Crusade.

    The success of the persecution of heretics of Monforte showed that the hierarchy of the Roman Church is ready for the Great Schism and it took place in 1054.

    In 1066, the sect organized the invasion of William the Conqueror into Orthodox England, which was the main part of the Viking Empire, and the capital of this empire moved from London to Kiev.

    But in 1100, the youngest son of William the Conqueror Henry I Beauclerc “betrays” the sect and begins restoration of the Great Vikings empire while taking steps to heal the Schism, and to some extent he succeeds and the reconstituted empire becomes the Plantagenet Empire after Henry Beauclerc’s grandson Henry II takes his wife Eleanor of Aquitaine from the French king Louis VII to and she brings him Languedoc and Gascony to the dowry.

    In 1135, Henry Beauclerc dies, and in 1147 the “saint” Bernard of Clairvaux proclaims the Vendian Crusade and calls for “natio deleatur” (genocide) of the Orthodox Vendian Slavs, having previously declared them pagans in full accordance with the Orthodox anathema presented by Cardinal Humbert in Hagia Sophia in 1054.

    1204 – Siege and capture of Constantinople under the leadership of the then head of the sect Enrico Dandolo and Boniface I of Montferrat.

    1209-1229 year, the Albigensian Crusade, which Simon de Montfort began to prepare in 1208, and according to the results of the genocide of the Languedoc Christians, the son of Simon de Montfort becomes the head of the sect.

    In 1236-1243, Batu Khan led the Mongol Western campaign and his troops, having conquered Kiev and Novgorod Rus, reached Meissen, successively destroying the sect on its way.

    On July 25, 1261, the Greeks expelled the Latins from Constantinople, and on August 15, Emperor Michael VIII Palaeologist solemnly entered the capital, thus restoring the Orthodox Byzantium, and the picture they see is very similar to what Minin and Pozharsky saw in 1612 expelling the sect from Orthodox Moscow.

    In 1268, the head of the sect, Karl of Anjou, began to prepare a fleet in Messina in Sicily to repeat the Fourth Crusade and re-capture Constantinople, but on Easter, March 29, 1282, a revolt broke out in Sicily against the sect, called the Sicilian Vespers, which was organized by the Byzantine Emperor Michael VIII Paleologist, King of Aragon Pedro, whose grandfather was killed in Languedoc by the crusaders Simon de Montfort, and English by King Edward Longshanks, who in 1265 recaptured the throne of England from the then head of the sect Simon de Montfort, the son of the leader of the Albigensian Crusade, also Simon de Montfort, died in the battle of Evesham.

    As a result of the Sicilian Vespers, all members of the sect in Palermo were killed, and the fleet of Charles I in Messina was burned and the Fourth Crusade 2.0 did not take place.

    In 1337, the Hundred Years War began, which was a response of the Plantagenet Empire to the invasion of the Crusaders of Simon de Montfort in 1209 in the lands that were given to Eleanor of Aquitaine.

    And in 1455, two years after the end of the Hundred Years War, the Rose War began in England, which was deliberately provoked by the head of the sect and great-great-great-great … great-granddaughter of Charles I of Anjou Margarita of Anjou, demanding that the Grand Council on May 1455 exclude the faction of York led by Richard, Duke of York from the list of pretenders to the throne.

    • GreenAlba September 3, 2019 at 8:25 am #

      “In addition, my inner voice tells to me…”

      Careful, Finca, you might be taken for one of those schizophrenics you were unfairly maligning earlier. 🙂

      • FincaInTheMountains September 3, 2019 at 8:56 am #

        If didn’t listen to my inner voice, I’d be dead by now.


        • GreenAlba September 3, 2019 at 9:43 am #

          Well I suppose it’s your inner voice, Finca, and not other people’s – that’s when you need to worry. When there’s nobody there, that is. 🙂

          • SoftStarLight September 3, 2019 at 12:26 pm #

            Or you could just be having an experience that science doesn’t have an explanation for.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 3, 2019 at 2:37 pm #

            The Virgin Mary helps me sometimes. Once she even talked to me. It does sound crazy until you have the experience (talking to her) or an analogous experience (hearing Christ or some other divine being in your mind).

            I once read a New Age article about animals experiencing ecstasy at the time of death. I thought it was crazy, but then I saw it in my dog as he met his end. He became an Angel, a doglike one!

          • SoftStarLight September 4, 2019 at 1:59 am #

            Awww. Was this something that happened a long time ago or more recently? I love animals and I get so attached that when they pass it is like losing a family member. I always wondered if animals have souls. I think they do even if they are not like ours. For sure they have distinct personalities and identities which I can’t help but think is like an essence or soul.

          • GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 4:53 am #

            ” I always wondered if animals have souls. ”

            Can’t you taste it in your burger?

          • GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 8:27 am #

            “For sure they have distinct personalities and identities which I can’t help but think is like an essence or soul.”

            Yep, that’s what some of us have been trying to tell you guys. But not in relation to animals. And the other way round. 🙂

          • SoftStarLight September 4, 2019 at 10:01 am #

            Well I do admire the Indians because at least some of them recognized that in animals and thus prayed and offered up blessings to their gods when they hunted. We should be doing the same since it is life. But after all that is the food chain. Life eats life. We were vegans in the Garden though you know. Ah, the good ole wages of sin.

            Now in relation to the soul. Wouldn’t you imagine that it is the soul that brings about the personality and distinct identity of an individual? I don’t think that personality is just something that arises in a vacuum because of firing neurons and memories of and reactions to childhood events. Yes, these factors clearly play a role. But something more is going on there.

          • GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 11:11 am #

            “Wouldn’t you imagine that it is the soul that brings about the personality and distinct identity of an individual? ”

            No. I think that the ‘soul’ just means the essence of ourselves, i.e. the totality of our mind and memories. When mind and memories go, so does our essence. See any advanced dementia sufferer.

            Personality is partly inherited. I’m much like my dad. But with add-ons and ‘take-aways’ due to my own personal experiences. A bit of my mother, but not so much. But I’m still uniquely me – just like everyone else…

          • SoftStarLight September 5, 2019 at 1:15 am #

            And what is strange is that some dementia patients seem to regain their faculties for brief periods and almost seem like they are “back” but then they quickly regress back into the dementia.

          • GreenAlba September 5, 2019 at 11:33 am #

            It’s a horrible disease. Two of my aunts had it, although one was adopted and my mother never got it, so I’m keeping my fingers crossed!

            Yes, they do occasionally have flashes of memory. My (related) aunt was totally incoherent by the time she died – just spoke gobbledegook, but she once came out with a whole coherent sentence that was triggered by something – it was really weird at the time.

            My mother, who was older but still compos mentis, looked after her for the last six years, but my mother unfortunately died first of a stroke, so my aunt had to go into a home while I spent my mother’s last days with her in hospital. The next time I saw my aunt in the home, only 10 days or so later, she had totally gone downhill just from being out of a familiar environment and just sat there completely vacant. There was literally nothing there. Within a couple of months she followed my mother, which was just as well – she’d have hated to think of herself like that when she was still ‘herself’.

    • FincaInTheMountains September 3, 2019 at 9:04 am #

      And in 1455, two years after the end of the Hundred Years War, the Rose War began in England, which was deliberately provoked by the head of the sect and great-great-great-great … great-granddaughter of Charles I of Anjou Margarita of Anjou, demanding that the Grand Council on May 1455 exclude the faction of York led by Richard, Duke of York from the list of pretenders to the throne.

      At the court of the English king, Margarita of Anjou was a spy of Louis XI Valois, who himself was hiding from his father, King Charles VII of France, who did nothing to save Joan of Arc, as if knowing that for the crown he received from her hands he would have to pay by death of starvation.

      Moreover, he clearly had a hand in condemning Gilles de Rais, who elevated him to the throne. Perhaps this is somehow connected with the fact that Gilles de Rais was the cousin of his own wife, who was also the niece of the king, and the future husband abducted her, using the status of a brother, raped her at a very young age, and only then made her his wife.

      • K-Dog September 3, 2019 at 11:10 am #

        Do you think the little ice age had anything to do with it?

  38. Yesterday I predicted Trump would raise tariffs a nominal amount. I was unaware that 15% raises kicked in automatically on Sunday. And today was a market holiday, so tomorrow, markets should react, china will react, and then trump will react.

    • FincaInTheMountains September 2, 2019 at 10:16 pm #

      China is forced to act against its own interests, the Hong Kong riots is the knife in the hand of the Sect at the throat of the Chinese Communists.

      The Sect wants a new wave of Economic Crisis.

      • Majella September 3, 2019 at 7:13 pm #

        Bannon explains it this way;

        to summarise – the CCP is a parasite feasting on the enslaved population of China. It is a gangster organization, a kleptocracy as bad as any in history.

        • capt spaulding September 3, 2019 at 7:19 pm #

          The Sect is fighting for control of the Hong Kong opium trade. The whole problem is caused by Sects and drugs and maybe Rock & Roll.

        • SoftStarLight September 4, 2019 at 1:30 am #

          Steve Bannon? You agree with Steve Bannon about something?

          • Majella September 4, 2019 at 3:12 am #

            He is not my go-to guy for anything much, but I found that his perspective on China was different. True, or not, who knows?

          • SoftStarLight September 4, 2019 at 10:08 am #

            Yeah I hear ya. Well you know, they say in Eastern cultures everything is about saving face and pretenses. So they apparently believe in putting lots of lipstick on pigs.

  39. BuckP September 3, 2019 at 12:28 am #

    “There is nothing new to our story. The flagrant lies and imbecilities of the inept and corrupt leader. The inability to halt the costly, endless wars and curb the gargantuan expenditures on the military. The looting of a beleaguered populace by the rich. The destruction of the ecosystem. The decay and abandonment of a once-efficient infrastructure. The implosion of the institutions, from education to diplomacy, that sustain a functioning state. The world has seen it before. It is the familiar disease of the end of a civilization. At first it is grimly entertaining, even amid the mounting suffering. But no one will be laughing at the end.”— Chris Hedges, “TheLast Act of the Human Comedy” article in

    “No amount of money ever bought a second of time.” —Howard Stark to Howard Potts (actually his son, Tony Stark – the Iron Man) in Avengers: Endgame

    • outsider September 3, 2019 at 9:39 am #

      Hedges, being a dedicated man of the Left, may be only half right. Does he ever talk of the nation-wrecking problem of immigration – both legal and illegal? What does he think of the Hart-Celler Act of 1965? What is his position on free health care, and basically free entry, for welfare-sucking illegals? Is he one of those Leftists who think that evil ‘privileged white supremacists’ need to be rounded up and have their guns confiscated by force? Given what is surely coming, no sane person would ever give up his guns.

      • Ol' Scratch September 3, 2019 at 10:47 am #

        Better question. Who to blame for the immigration in the first place? The immigrants themselves or the one’s encouraging them to come here in the first place. Hint: BOTH parties (well, in truth, the ONE party, as there is no difference between the two) are guilty of that last part.

        • outsider September 3, 2019 at 12:05 pm #

          Easy answer, Scratch. The ones making the laws and the policies are always the ones to blame. But that is no reason to allow invaders to just walk across the border for free health care, as the democrats are now proposing. Trump had a chance to do something about it in his first two years of total GOP control. But he didn’t. Thus he is equally guilty.

          • SoftStarLight September 3, 2019 at 12:36 pm #

            I agree with you. Trump is just as guilty as the Democrats he is decrying at this point. He made the choice not to aggressively push for big changes on immigration and the Wall, including legislative changes, when he had opportunities to do so. All of Washington DC and corporate America are responsible for the lack of immigration and border enforcement and they should all be held to account. The illegals did break the law too so they have culpability as well.

        • BuckP September 3, 2019 at 4:33 pm #

          Funny how hiring undocumentd workers is a felony while being an undocumented emigre is only a misdemeanor. Recently in the news,slaughterhouse workers in Mississippi were arrested and booted out of the country by ICE; meanwhile no charges were filed against the white-collar corporate execs that hired them What a farce!
          If Americans didn’t fuck themselves up with illegal drugs and corporatons didn’t hire undocumented workers there wouldn’t be an immigration problem, even though, most illegal immigration now is result of Asians and Europeans overstaying their visas. They arrived by plane, but that doesn’t coincide with “Build the Wall” mantra of a disenfranchised populous looking to blame somebody for the decline and who are led by their plump, fire-breathing cheerleader, the GGG.

  40. trypillian September 3, 2019 at 2:55 am #

    The Democrat hound dogs chasing Ruskygate could have been silenced by The Don with empirical measure. Metadata within emails contain the transmission time from message initiation to arrival at its destination, within lightspeed framework. The alphabet agencies know this of course. The dodgy emails and posts were created within Amerika, not from overseas. The transmission time was small, consistent with origins within the US. Why didn’t The Don play this trump card to purge the whole sordid morass when he had them by the twins.

    • SoftStarLight September 3, 2019 at 12:39 pm #

      Another good question. He has wasted so many opportunities that it almost begs the question as to whether or not he really intended to make all of the changes he campaigned on. I guess in that sense he is, or has become, the perfect politician.

      • Majella September 3, 2019 at 7:18 pm #


        He won by accident and was as surprised as I was. He never intended to BE president ad so really didn’t and still doesn’t have any coherent agenda anyway.

        The day-to-day flip-flops speak volumes about his grasp on reality and illuminate his lack of any kind of ‘plan’.

        • SoftStarLight September 4, 2019 at 1:27 am #

          I have heard this theory before. Maybe you’re right. Well I mean the media actedly like why is he even trying Hillary is President already. No wonder he felt like it was rigged. But if that is the case he should have had a plan B which included at least investigating her as per the debate speeches and rallies. Oh well its all water under the bridge. It’s his fault he didn’t listen.

          • Nightowl September 4, 2019 at 8:49 am #

            It’s a theory from the same folks who brought and continue to bring you Russiagate. They have many theories about Trump.

            I mean what 70 billionaire wouldn’t want to spend mountains of their own cash; travel the country to the point of exhaustion; give speech after speech in Podunk, USA; have their family slimed in the media; etc., all in the hope that one didn’t win?

            Such sharp logic could only come from one place …

          • SoftStarLight September 4, 2019 at 10:11 am #

            Yes, and that is why I have never fully embraced the above theory. It is hard to imagine why you would want to go to all of that trouble and expense for something you didn’t really believe in. I mean what benefit is Trump really getting? All the mainstream does is bash him day and night no matter what. He would have made a lot more money in these past few years by not being President too.

  41. Iananna September 3, 2019 at 6:29 am #

    I wonder how many people are hoping that Dorian might visit Mar-a-Lago?

  42. Walter B September 3, 2019 at 8:50 am #

    And on the geo-political front ‘Multiple event risks’ continue to play out;

    Trump’s continued criticism of the Federal Reserve….and the increasingly tense situation in Hong Kong…

  43. jeff2002 September 3, 2019 at 9:18 am #

    JHK, if today’s Democrats are calling for raising the top marginal tax rate on the rich above the measly 37% it is now, what does that make Republican Dwight Eisenhower, under whom it was 91%? Surely that makes him the socialist of all socialists?

    • Ol' Scratch September 3, 2019 at 10:44 am #

      Turns out the word socialist is a relative term. Relative to who’s using it to smear someone and who it is they’re smearing. It’s roughly equivalent to the word liberal, which is now so pejorative that it’s virtually meaningless. It’s purely a conversation stopper. Perhaps one day soon the word capitalist will draw the same ire.

      • K-Dog September 3, 2019 at 11:11 am #

        or civilization!

      • K-Dog September 3, 2019 at 11:27 am #

        Scratch I have a question.

        Do you consider yourself an emergent phenomena or have you been around for all time? The Kool-Aid sez you have been around as long as the big guy has been, but I consider you emergent.

        What say you?

    • K-Dog September 3, 2019 at 11:41 am #

      Taxes are the way to most easily reform America. Just look how easy it was for elites to re-establish control after Eisenhower. Media brainwashing was done by plutocrats and the process of wealth redistribution continues. The poor rich continue to be bailed out to this day. From the top of the pyramid down all are brainwashed.

    • JohnAZ September 3, 2019 at 11:59 am #

      Progressive income tax does not a socialist make.

      Progressive income tax of the 50’s was actually a great way of circulating capital back into the economy that was fair. The Elite use more of what the government provides and should pay more.

      The problem was recessions. Downturns are aggravated by high tax rates. The one sector you do not want to hit in a recession is the capital gang, the moneymakers as they are the source of regeneration.

      Reagan cut our the progressive tax because it was hitting the capital gang hard. He was half right. When the economy boomed, they alone raked in the goodies. Big mistake for the country as it encouraged the big box effect that we are stuck with today.

      Progressive income taxes with the rates tied into GDP growth would work. If the economy softens, give the moneymakers more latitude, when things boom, tax them more and invest it into small and medium business.

      Real creativity starts in small business and it should be encouraged.

      • Exscotticus September 3, 2019 at 1:27 pm #

        >>> The Elite use more of what the government provides and should pay more.

        Progressive income tax has nothing to do with the elite paying more per se, as they pay more even with a flat tax—directly proportional to their income.

        Progressive income tax is about the shape of the curve. So wealthy people don’t merely pay more, they pay exponentially more.

        >>> Progressive income tax does not a socialist make.

        It most certainly is a facet of socialism, because the goal of a progressive income tax is to redistribute wealth and create more wealth equality.

        The USA is a mixed economic system with many socialist elements. The vast overwhelming majority of America supports many facets of socialism, the most popular of which are Social Security and Medicare.

        When people like myself object to socialism, we’re objecting to expanding the range of social programs beyond what we already have. We believe that socialism should only be considered in cases where capitalism yields undesirable results.

        • Janos Skorenzy September 3, 2019 at 2:43 pm #

          If people took care of their own, we wouldn’t these things. But we do, cuz they won’t, cuz they often can’t or cuz the social ties were destroyed by the Capitalist Economy that mitigates against the extended family and ultimately, the nuclear one as well.

          The Luddites weren’t Luddites you know. They just wanted their share of the new economy. Nothing doing – they were crushed and their leaders hung. The rest ended up as slaves in Manchester and Liverpool. Happy now?

          If they had been allowed to stay as weavers in their weaver villages, they wouldn’t have need Big Gov. Take what you want but pay the price (Emerson). You got the first part down just like your Heroes do. The second you have a problem with just like they do.

          • Exscotticus September 3, 2019 at 3:08 pm #

            >>> cuz the social ties were destroyed by the Capitalist Economy that mitigates against the extended family and ultimately, the nuclear one as well.

            Wake up; it’s not Conservatives destroying family values. That would be drag queen story hour Dems. And now JLo is legitimizing pole dancing and shakin’ yo ass for money like it’s some kind of American Ballet worthy of the National Medal of Arts. Just get your facts straight.

            >>> They just wanted their share of the new economy.

            Your “fair share” of anything is what the free market pays. Anything else is a central committee deciding who gets what according to dubious values and typically with their own members coming out at the top.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 3, 2019 at 6:39 pm #

            The free market is the Law of the Jungle. Nothing free about it. The costs are infinite since no such value can be put on human life. Yet your Masters do put a value on human life – a very, very low one.

          • SoftStarLight September 4, 2019 at 1:17 am #

            The drag queen story hours and pole dancing JLo are just overt signs of decay. The destruction of the family and traditional values is also occurring due to the financial pressures and problems naturally brought about by a hostile and cut-throat competitive economy and the consumerism and materialism that go along with it. And in regard to the fair share. I get the respect for hard work and wealth accumulation that comes with that. But it seems like society should be willing to do as much for individuals as it expects the individuals to do for society. There is give and take after all.

          • Exscotticus September 4, 2019 at 11:13 am #

            >>> The free market is the Law of the Jungle.

            Better any system of laws than the tyranny of an elite.

            Markets are natural law—like gravity. They emerge with no government intervention whatsoever. They adapt automatically and continuously to change—far better than any centralized economic authority. If you put a bunch of people together in a field, some hoping to buy, some hoping to sell, some hoping to work, some hoping to hire— voila—you have a market. Hardly a “jungle”.

            No—markets don’t feed the poor or house the homeless or care for the sick or injured. That’s not their purpose. Expecting a market to do that is ridiculous. On the other hand, they also don’t encourage welfarism and dependency. They don’t enable parasites. They don’t steal and redistribute wealth. What they do is encourage efficiency and innovation. If you can make your bread tastier and sell it cheaper—you will prosper over your competition. The socialist response? Forbidden! All bread must taste the same and cost the same! Or maybe they just steal your bread recipe “for the good of all”. But then how much innovation will happen under a system that doesn’t reward it?

            As I said, we’re a mixed economy. We let markets work where and when they can, and regulate where we must. Many of your objections stem from crony capitalism, markets being manipulated, and governments picking winners and losers.

            The inevitable result of Janos’ perfect world is a socialist elite telling you not only how much you will earn, but what your job will be. Mao’s China? No thanks.

          • SoftStarLight September 5, 2019 at 1:43 am #

            Well I am not so sure about that in the sense that I don’t think anyone is calling for an end to the free market. Free markets make total sense in terms of the mechanics and dynamics at play. But if the market isn’t taking care of the homeless, sick, poor, etc., someone must or quite honestly we’re no better than animals. And I don’t believe we should expect the markets to do it. It used to be that family and church would take care of the unfortunate. But with the dissolution of the family and the church the demand for the state to step into the gap has grown louder and louder. So it becomes a loop. We can either grow families and churches to help fill the societal needs the markets are unable to meet or we can grow government programs to do the same. Maybe some of both would also work. But all just to say that markets shouldn’t be viewed as external to but actually imbedded in society and treated as such. Markets should serve people and not the other way around.

          • Nightowl September 5, 2019 at 5:23 am #

            I think that the real issue for well-meaning people who understand free markets, is how much regulation is requried.

            The jungle is unforgiving, but we are talking about societies of human beings. We don’t just let the sick die, and the mentally disadvantaged live on the street.

          • Exscotticus September 5, 2019 at 10:56 am #

            >>> Well I am not so sure about that in the sense that I don’t think anyone is calling for an end to the free market.

            Mao’s China and the Soviet Union did—and it was an abject failure. Predictably, black markets replaced regulated ones.

            Current socialists are not calling for an end to free markets, but they want to make regulation the default, and “free” the exception to the rule. Basically, you can’t buy or sell or hire or labor in any way without the government’s permission—and without the government getting their cut. Of course it’s all done in the name of “safety” and “security”.

            >>> But if the market isn’t taking care of the homeless, sick, poor, etc., someone must or quite honestly we’re no better than animals.

            Some people are self-destructive and beyond saving. How much taxpayer largesse would you waste on a guy who loves to drink and gamble and do drugs and so on? Or what about the welfare mom who has 10 kids by 10 different men? None of whom are identified or paying to care for the kids? And because the mom also likes to drink and do drugs, the kids all have autism. Caring for 10 autistic children can bankrupt an entire school district.

      • elysianfield September 3, 2019 at 1:52 pm #

        “Real creativity starts in small business and it should be encouraged.”

        Tariffs do just that…encourage start-up businesses that are enabled due to higher prices from China….

        • JohnAZ September 3, 2019 at 3:09 pm #

          Yes! My idea on progressive income tax would be effective at stemming the bad side of capitalism, that there are winners and losers. If the losers would just disappear, capitalism would be great. But they don’t. As people make more and more, they should pay more in proportion. The Eisenhower years are still regarded as a great economic period until the very end where a recession hit. What did Kennedy do to stop the recession, the same thing as Reagan. Reduced the tax rates per income class. My only adder is to make the GDP an index to automatically set the rates.

          Tariffs are a wonderful tool to discipline bad economic international actors. They raise federal revenue and they do create domestic supply sources. Why is it that a sector of the federal government thought we should’ve kowtowed to any countries and gave away our manufacturing prowess after WW2. Now to correct the problem, tariffs are required. Those leaders should be prosecuted for sedition.

          Why is it so popular to hate the US and want to tear it down?

      • Majella September 3, 2019 at 7:26 pm #

        John AZ:

        I couldn’t agree more (probably to your horror).

        The way things have gone since the Thatcher/Reagan ‘revolution’ is the obvious concentration of wealth at the top. At the bottom is wage-slavery.

        The most egregious example of modern debt servitude is the middle-rungs of the agrarian economy such as chicken breeders ‘contracted’ by the likes of Tyson. These people are treated worse than employees and yet are told they’re ‘in business’ for themselves.

        A flexible progressive tax system such as you suggest makes a LOT of sense to me:

        “Progressive income tax of the 50’s was actually a great way of circulating capital back into the economy that was fair. The Elite use more of what the government provides and should pay more.”

        That’s the core of social democracy.

        • Exscotticus September 4, 2019 at 11:52 am #

          It’s an easy sell when the tax curve merely goes after the uber-wealthy. But history shows us time and again that governments serve themselves, and the tax curve inevitable changes to snag everyone—even the poor.

          When income tax first started in the USA it was 6% on millionaires and the middle class paid NOTHING. It only took a few short years for that to change.

          This graph is instructive.

          Here we are decades later, and average middle class Beligans pay over half their income in taxes.

          At what point is taxation slavery? According to socialists: 100%. So long as the government doesn’t take it all, it’s legit. Hypocritically, they then demand minimum wages, not, “So long as I pay something, it’s legit.” There’s clearly a huge disconnect between the limitations they place on themselves (virtually none), and the limitations they place on others.

  44. lost-in-north-dakota September 3, 2019 at 11:09 am #

    “…as the entire higher ed system finally begins to detect that it is whirling around the drain.”

    I don’t know how it is elsewhere in the nation, but college enrollment in general is on a downward path in these parts. Colleges that went on spending sprees, borrowing money to build expensive “wellness centers” or luxury dorms, or vastly increasing numbers of “vice presidents” and administrators, are finding themselves in a world of hurt, financially. I can only see this trend continuing. How is it in your part of the country?

    • K-Dog September 3, 2019 at 11:23 am #

      It is hard for the average Joe who needs to see a brass ring at the end for their efforts. The war on the middle class prevents education to be seen as a wise investment.

      If you are black in Seattle the public schools can’t give you lower than a C. A clear message that black education won’t be valued. Clever racists realized the harm they did by handing out unearned riches was worth far more to their agenda than the riches they handed out. Education empowers, and what better way to prevent education than to give out free grades! But the attack is not racial entirely. It is also an attack on class because not just black educations are devalued. The entire system becomes suspect.

      • SoftStarLight September 3, 2019 at 12:48 pm #

        Why exactly is it that a Black student can’t be given a grade lower than a C and where is that policy explicitly stated? What about the whole Black cultural phenomenon of looking down on scholarly achievement as a White thing? Does that factor in at all?

      • JohnAZ September 3, 2019 at 3:27 pm #

        C’mon. This one is easy. The Federal government cannot stand the competition of a properly educated public. So send all the skilled jobs overseas, keep the internet jobs here to try to control everything through Google and social media, destroy the integrity of higher education, get everyone in debt to the Banks and the Feds. All to keep the populace under control and the Deep State in place.

        Two things keep a population in control of its government, the vote and guns. It only works when the public is willing and wise enough to use them. The Deep State has almost got it all put together to destroy the government of, by and for the people and substitute their dictatorship in its place.

        Destroy education, import a new public that need socialism, get rid of the guns, make google and social media your lackeys and voila, you are a Communistic socialist state.

        We are almost there. If Trump had lost, we would be there now.

        One question to these people,

        Why the hell are you doing this? You are destroying the most humanistic society in human history and I hope every one of you go to hell for doing it.

    • JohnAZ September 3, 2019 at 12:15 pm #

      Anytime the government encourages debt as free money, bubbles happen. The housing bubble caused by Freddie Mac in the 2000’s caused 2008.

      A load of crap was sold to America by the Deep State over the last thirty years. A college degree guaranteed success in life. A generation of parents sucked right onto this lie as they indulged their kids even more. The millennial generation with all their fiscal problems is the result.

      In the meantime, the colleges were drooling over all this debt money they were getting from the government. Not directly, but by increasing tuition rates for folks that would grab the loans. Here we go, more revenue, we can spend more, and they did, taking out loans to build big stadiums, newer buildings, hiring more administrators, and unfortunately more liberal professors to lock everything in. And so on, and so on. Look at Hollywood folks, in trouble for putting out $500000 to get falsified entries into class schools.

      Anyway, the piper will need to be paid. If the enrollments start to fall, the whole house of cards is going to go down. Like all Ponzi schemes, it will fail eventually.

      Who gets hurt, the colleges yes, but the folks holding the loans foremost.

      Sidebar. If the Dems forgive all the student loans, who is going to pay the operating costs and salaries of all the tenured profs. At the college level. I doubt if they have even considered that impact.

    • BackRowHeckler September 3, 2019 at 1:11 pm #

      Dont forget ‘Diversity Coordinators’.

      That’s a position with a lot of power, and where you can really rake in the swag.


      • malthuss September 3, 2019 at 5:58 pm #

        If your water is stored in plastic, the PCB will poison it.

        Die ver shity con selor., The Back gal who runs the 2 year college was promoted from that to President. Someone used the N word or there was a ‘racially charged incident’ and she emailed everyone
        that was in the email system.

  45. volodya September 3, 2019 at 11:39 am #

    The basic problem in the US and much of the West, not least in financial markets, IMO is a disconnect with reality.

    In politics – cough – progressives figure they occupy the moral high ground. That’s the basic delusion, and not only that but the assumed intellectual superiority, never mind that AOC and the campus snowflake couldn’t stick a finger up their own ass, not even if you held their hand.

    This has practical consequences in the real world as we’ve seen play out over the past few years. So convinced are they of their own rightness and greatness, their priorities and actions so far over the heads of their moral and intellectual inferiors, who by electing Trump show they’re not qualified to judge. And so we get the utterly fraudulent Russiagate fiasco, a pant’s-down farce.

    Hillary doubled down on her “deplorable” accusation, proclaiming the superiority of people that voted for her. I guess that according to Hillary, these are the people that really count, their votes mattering more. In this world-view, uneducated small town and rural folk don’t have valid interests so they shouldn’t have decided the outcome, the election result being an egregious insult to justice.

    It would behoove our superiors to maybe take a deep breath and take stock. Speaking of which, they tend to conflate stock market values with cash in the bank and the same with purported house values. That’s the self-deception in the financial realm, valuations in terms of dollars being equated in their mind with money they can spend. Ain’t hardly the same thing, the difference between the two amply demonstrated in financial crises and then forgotten once the Fed rides to the rescue with QE and multi-trillion dollar Wall Street bail-outs.

    But flooding the world with US currency has deleterious consequences which we see playing out daily, which our supposed superiors are resolutely blind to. This of course, doesn’t just harm the toiling masses, but in the daily economic harm it inflicts, it increases the likelihood of violent upheaval, and if the high and mighty think they’re immune, maybe they should take a history course or two.

    Do they think the almost daily festivities taking place in Hong Kong are about extradition arrangements with the Chinese mainland? Do they think the almost impossible finances of ordinary people there have no bearing? It’s no secret that the HK government takes no account of their interests but rather is highly solicitous of the ultra-rich. See, in this neo-liberal world, they are the ones that count. Those two-million strong demonstrations are an assertion otherwise, that international economic arrangements and the monetary policies of the Fed and other central banks are making life impossible.

    That’s the situation in France, the Yellow Jackets letting self-satisfied Parisians and the superbly grinning Macron know that there are interests to consider besides that of a narrow spectrum of French society. It’s the same with the Brexit vote, the no-accounts getting up on their hind-legs.

    As if to prove the point of reality-denial, this festering post-Brexit debacle in the UK shows toffs across the political spectrum substituting cutting wit and sarcastic quip for actual governance as if an Eton tie and Cambridge credential will somehow by themselves rescue their incompetent mendacious asses. Appeasing Hitler was a preposterous exercise in reality denying, thinking the Nazi hierarchy would have looked favorably on the Brit aristocracy instead of ripping them off of everything they owned and maybe shooting them all another example of people that didn’t want to face reality as it is.

    History shows us over and over that when people can’t make ends meet, when the cupboard is empty, things get nasty. The once placid folk of HK show us this, people in France too, the fact that Trump is stinking up the Oval Office an object lesson. The thing is for the shot-callers to learn and change course. They’re outnumbered, massively, not by a narrow margin, and they can’t win.

    • K-Dog September 3, 2019 at 11:55 am #

      The ultra-rich. See, in this neo-liberal world, they are the ones that count.

      Did you know that poor people will give rich people expensive gifts to curry their favor? The phenomena is almost genetic.

      • volodya September 3, 2019 at 12:06 pm #

        Another aspect of reality denial maybe.

        • JohnAZ September 3, 2019 at 12:24 pm #

          Nope, pecking order stuff. For some reason, people ARE sheeple and will follow the leader. Leaders are power people, usually tall and imposing, but examples of short man syndrome exist too. They are all salesmen as they have to convince their constituencies that they should be followed.

          The US Constitution was written to stop this human trait. The Deep State want the Constitution rewritten to allow the sheeple trait to pervade America. Dictatorship will follow, without a doubt.

          • SoftStarLight September 3, 2019 at 12:59 pm #

            There is a such thing as natural aristocracy/hierarchy. The word sheeple is used so often but in reality most human beings are followers of some form or another. And that is not necessarily a bad thing. Followers far outnumber leaders or herders by a vast majority as was pointed out by V. In our hyper individualistic society we want to imagine that everyone is their own leader if not leading others. Unfortunately, this is another reason we are so far off course. Most people should think of themselves as followers for the most part. Followers will naturally aim to please leaders. Currying favor in other words is just natural behavior for those who are lower on the food chain. Why would you not want good relationships with people who are above you? There is no way that we are ever going to get rid of natural hierarchy. Some people will always be able to hold more power than others. The Constitution attempted to deal with it by providing representative government. It’s the opening up of voting to all of those “sheeple” that has been a large part of our precipitous decline as a civilization.

          • GreenAlba September 3, 2019 at 8:01 pm #

            Which countries currently without universal suffrage particularly appeal to you, SSL?

          • SoftStarLight September 4, 2019 at 1:00 am #

            Well that is a very interesting question. I suppose Dubai in the United Arab Emirates must not be a horrid destination since the super wealthy and celebrities rave about how opulent and groundbreaking it is. Yet there is nowhere even close to universal suffrage in UAE. But the PC Elite who often vacay there strangely don’t seem to be piping up too much about it. Or the almost or maybe slave labor that appears to be common there. I don’t think I would be happy in the desert though. But even here I struggle to understand what my vote really does for me. I still don’t feel like anyone is hearing me. Perhaps I am missing the point entirely. Or perhaps if I had as much money as I had words I would be further along.

          • GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 4:48 am #

            “Perhaps I am missing the point entirely. ”


          • SoftStarLight September 4, 2019 at 10:17 am #

            Well I thought my example was a great one. The reality is that there isn’t a good example of such a society right now. That is the problem. We are mostly stuck between choosing between either full authoritarians or mob rule. I am not personally interested in either of those choices. We will have to create a brave new world so to speak :-). Or we can just keep doing the same things that aren’t working over and over.

          • GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 11:38 am #

            I’m with Churchill on this one, although it wasn’t original to him.

            “Democracy is the worst system, except for all the other systems”

          • SoftStarLight September 5, 2019 at 1:50 am #

            Uh oh. Not another pick the littler of the evils again!

          • GreenAlba September 5, 2019 at 11:48 am #

            He was being slightly facetious, but his point was more serious than ‘the littler of two evils’.

            We’d just seen a system that produced pure evil and unthinkable atrocities, so I don’t think he remotely put democracy on a par with that.

  46. Great article in The New York Times on the situation in Hong Kong.

    I’m happy to re-report the HK movement has nothing to do with the West, the Sects, or monetary policy. It’s about a people trying to remain free from Beijing’s boot heel.

    I feel enlightened, and for only $3. That’s a great deal.

    • JohnAZ September 3, 2019 at 12:30 pm #

      I think maybe the West hoped that the infection of HK and its capitalist economy would convert the Mainland to a more free government. It is not over yet, I hope China absorbs HK and its liberalism peaceably. It could be a blood bath.

      Do not give up on those folks either. I do not think very many people would of bet on a bunch of rag tag farmers to beat the British Empire in 1776.

      • GreenAlba September 3, 2019 at 12:43 pm #

        “I think maybe the West hoped that the infection of HK and its capitalist economy would convert the Mainland ”

        I don’t think anyone – certainly in the UK – was that deluded, JohnAZ, but I think many were reassured by the idea that Hong Kong was (at the time of the Joint Declaration) a door to the capitalist West that would be useful enough for China to leave it alone to do its own thing, to the benefit of mainland China. Sadly it turned out that China can now do its own thing without the need for such a door.

        • Exscotticus September 4, 2019 at 12:19 pm #

          Great analysis. HK is perceived by the mainland as a greedy dependent child, a consumer—not a provider.

      • Janos Skorenzy September 3, 2019 at 2:50 pm #

        China is significantly Capitalist just not Plutocratic. The Government remains in control not the Corporations. Bad Fascism I’m afraid. I never said it was impossible. But remember, they have no tradition of free speech and rights and what not. This is all very natural to them. Since they got Capitalism late, and with a huge boost from us, they skipped over a lot of the mid-stage which might have helped foster some of that. But there was no guarantee of course.

        Alba: Many here at least did sincerely believe that Capitalism would transform China. Silly but there you go. John is one such, obviously.

        • GreenAlba September 3, 2019 at 6:40 pm #


          I think we’re talking about two different things. I said I thought people hoped that Hong Kong would be left alone to do its own (capitalist) thing and that in that they are currently disappointed.

          I think that’s slightly different from the contention that people hoped that mainland China’s conversion to a capitalist-type economy would be accompanied by some level of democratisation. I see that as China’s pro-capitalist development being independent of Hong Kong’s influence. I am assuming the Chinese economy would have moved towards a capitalist model even without Hong Kong, but I’m not a China expert (understatement of the year).

          Having moved towards capitalism on the mainland, of course, the door to capitalism that was represented by Hong Kong is no longer needed, so the HK Chinese don’t need to be given special treatment, I suppose, in the view of Beijing (even though it was guaranteed for 50 years by the Joint Declaration – woe betide anyone who trusts Beijing).

          • GreenAlba September 3, 2019 at 6:42 pm #

            I should have said ‘people hoped that Hong Kong would be left alone to do its own (capitalist and democratic) thing and that in that they are currently disappointed.’

          • JohnAZ September 3, 2019 at 7:40 pm #

            I visited Hong Kong in 1972 while in the Navy. During our tour, we were told that 1500 folks from then Red China went over the Hong Kong frontier to get to Hong Kong’s freedom. These protestors are the descendants of those people who probably feel very betrayed by England for leaving when their lease was up. Hong Kong is Europe in Asia, like Israel is Europe in the Middle East. Are they willing to fight the hordes from Beijing? Will the West back them up? Every piece of the West that we are not willing to fight for means the Sun keeps getting lower in the sky.

          • GreenAlba September 3, 2019 at 7:55 pm #


            “These protestors are the descendants of those people who probably feel very betrayed by England for leaving when their lease was up.”

            What possible entitlement could the UK have for making any claim on Hong Kong? It did its level best to ensure some level of democracy after it handed Hong Kong back to China, to whom it belonged, and the agreements made were not respected. Although they were time limited anyway.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 3, 2019 at 11:30 pm #

            Capitalism/Communism are both opposed to Nationalism. Hong Kong is a disease vector and apparently, an essential part of the plan of Oceania to overcome East Asia. The Chinese were supposed to have given up all this Nationalistic crap by now. I imagine that is why we withdrew support for Chang Kai Shek (sp?) in favor of Mao.

            I don’t blame the Hong Kongers for not wanting to be subject to Red China btw. Western Culture is great in some ways. Apparently the Reds do harvest the organs of political disidents….

            In any case, both sides are utterly lost. They both imitate the West in clothing, architecture, tastes, etc. Sad.

          • Exscotticus September 4, 2019 at 12:21 pm #

            Great analysis, GreenAlba.

  47. pkrugman September 3, 2019 at 12:44 pm #

    Trump’s tax cut for billionaires and Trump’s economic policies have led to American manufacturing shrinking for the first time in Trump’s three years.

    The market is crashing in response to Trump tax tariffs. Trump’s economy is going down the drain just like JHK says. Trump is inept and rattled.

    Even the farmers are coming out against Trump. And the deplorables are waking up to the Trump tragedy they have wrought. 2020 will be a Democrat landslide. Free everything! Debt cancellation! Yay!

    • SoftStarLight September 3, 2019 at 1:02 pm #

      Fake news. Nothing is for free.

    • Exscotticus September 3, 2019 at 1:03 pm #

      OK, Janet. Wipe the drool off the side of your face, now. That’s it. Good! Time for your meds…

    • BackRowHeckler September 3, 2019 at 3:23 pm #

      “Tax cuts for billionaires”, “Tax cuts for billionaires”.

      For chrissake Little Jane, how many times are you gonna repeat that line? What the hell are you talking about? What f#kkin tax cuts for billionaires. Most billionaires are lefty globalist mtherf#kkers anyway. Is that the reason you keep repeating it?


  48. Exscotticus September 3, 2019 at 1:01 pm #

    >>> America could easily accomplish it in five or ten, considering how complex and artificial our economic arrangements are.

    Not to mention our increasingly complex and artificial social arrangements. We can endure adversity as one people. Not so much as a patchwork of tribes with no common language or values.

    • SoftStarLight September 3, 2019 at 1:09 pm #

      And herein lies one of our biggest and most vexing problems. There is never going to be a way to collapse a multitude of tribes into one tribe. Though it has been tried over and over and even despite the lessons of history. We still are desperate to make this mistake now but eventually Nature will win.

      • Exscotticus September 3, 2019 at 2:05 pm #

        We were doing pretty well—until the advent of multiculturalism and cultural relativism.

        • Janos Skorenzy September 3, 2019 at 2:54 pm #

          We absorbed the different White groups, but it wasn’t easy and took a long time. All of that just lead to the hubris that we could do the same with non Whites, or even non-White non-Christians, which is simply crazy.

          And we assimilated the White groups when we were strong and needed the labor. Neither is the case now. Yet still the poured in for other reasons of the utmost malice.

          • malthuss September 3, 2019 at 5:59 pm #

            BUT ONLY 5000 WILL MOVE TO USA.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 3, 2019 at 11:33 pm #

            Yes, the biggest lie in modern human history.

      • Janos Skorenzy September 3, 2019 at 3:10 pm #

        Such a collapse is the basis of a Nation. But Yes, the tribes have to had some basic similarity. The Italian City states coalesced to become Italy. The 13 American Colonies to become America, etc.

        Assimilating Germans and later Italians into the young America wasn’t easy. The Irish were hated yet invited in. They hated the American Anglo-Saxon elite right back. Not an easy group? But still they were so similar in many ways, especially genetically, and have made a full assimilation.

        Jews don’t assimilate unless they give up their identity and religion because these things are separative by their very nature. “You are a People who shall dwell alone”, God said. They were commanded to hate all others, even their close Semitic neighbors. They fulfilled this commandment…..

        Admin sez — That’s scurrilous bullshit Janos — JHK

        Blacks? American Indians? Indian Indians? Muslims? Somali Muslims? It is to laugh and cry. The former are are all in favor of these – which shows that indeed they have not assimilated. Taking over is not the same as assimilating after all.

        • JohnAZ September 3, 2019 at 3:37 pm #

          Agree with all of you. The US is a tossed salad and not a smooth mixture. No one, no one has taken the lead to try to homogenize the people. Every group wants to be the boss.

          Okay, unfortunately, they are all here. Now what?

          • All they can do is vote, or act, in their own their self interest, of course.

          • SoftStarLight September 4, 2019 at 12:21 am #

            Yes and that is the entire reason why its best to avoid the situation we find ourselves in. You have both reached the logical conclusion. A country will never flourish if it is nothing more than competing ethnic factions and yet when various ethnicities are brought together they naturally look out for their own self interests. Thus multicultural and multiracial societies are inherently unsustainable and unstable.

  49. BackRowHeckler September 3, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

    I was checking out our local daily newspaper and Hate Trump Sheet to find out exactly how Hurricane Dorian is the President’s fault — it is, in about a half dozen ways — but look at this, next week in Hartford its ‘Pride Week’, not to be confused with Pride Month, which was in June. A whole sh-tload of events are planned, culminating with a Pratt Street block party known as the Pride Fest. The Governor will be in attendance, as will be the Mayor (a Rhodes Scholar) Senators, Congressmen, pretty much everybody who is anybody in state politics will show up to celebrate ‘Pride’.

    I also learned, starting this year, mandatory Puerto Rican history course of studies taught in all Ct public schools. LBGQT history and Black history made mandatory a few years ago. Needless to say, the core history of Ct, and the US itself — White History — is being dropped.

    With this sort of thing going on you can imagine what the reading and math comprehresion levels in our urban public schools is.

    Make of it what you will, CFNers.


    • elysianfield September 3, 2019 at 2:00 pm #

      “The Governor will be in attendance, as will be the Mayor (a Rhodes Scholar) Senators, Congressmen, pretty much everybody who is anybody in state politics will show up to celebrate ‘Pride’.”

      Craven lickspittles….

      Unworthy of any respect, whatsoever….

    • Janos Skorenzy September 3, 2019 at 3:00 pm #

      The Boston Straight Pride March went off as planned. God bless these brave men. There was a heavy police presence to protect them from Antifa attacks.

      The Mayor, an Irish “Catholic” young blowhard, thought it was silly, but said he couldn’t deny them. I’ll give him credit for that much decency at least.

      • malthuss September 3, 2019 at 6:02 pm #

        screw em. the city where the bombing happened at marathon. was that a false flag?

        • BackRowHeckler September 3, 2019 at 10:46 pm #

          No, that wasn’t a false flag, Malthus.

          9 year old boy was killed, bomb was placed right next to where he was standing, was there watching his mother compete in the race. His name was Martin Richards.

          • malthuss September 3, 2019 at 10:58 pm #

            do you even know what a FF is?

          • BackRowHeckler September 4, 2019 at 12:01 am #

            Maybe not.

            Clue me in.

    • AI will bridge the gap and quickly be writing all domestic communications. Because that’s the way it be; Grammer is hard. Like taxis, the internet will continue to disruptify.

      • JohnAZ September 3, 2019 at 3:39 pm #

        When AI reaches this point, the USA is history.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 3, 2019 at 3:13 pm #

      It’s not too late to get to Goat Island. Take a vacation day or something. We need that data.

      • BackRowHeckler September 3, 2019 at 3:40 pm #

        no its not too late to get to Newport, only 76 miles away after all. I got sidetracked this summer with the excellent striper and fluke fishing in Saybrook and Niantic. Little seaport village of Niantic like out of a dream, uncrowded, boats coming and going thru the estuary, NY — Boston passenger trains gliding by along the coast, drawbridge raised up and lowered, and a little rooftop restaurant where you can eat scallops and down a few cold ones while looking out over the bay. And on the hottest days its a little cooler there too. It was so pleasant I didn’t see any need to leave the state.


        • Janos Skorenzy September 3, 2019 at 6:41 pm #

          You have found Willoughby, where a man can take full measure.

          • malthuss September 3, 2019 at 10:59 pm #

            Can you verify?

            ?exas shooting
            Gunman kills 7, injures at least 22 in rampage that started with a traffic stop – CNN
            Officials Finally Identify Odessa Shooter – as Seth (Aaron) Ator.
            The police conceal his name “Aaron”, and release only a 2001 mugshot.

            Are Main Stream Media going to mention that Seth Aaron Ator is in fact a deranged Israeli?
            “Before officials announced the gunman’s name, there was widespread outrage across social media about why the shooter’s identity was being concealed.
            Many said that the shooter would not have been afforded the same privilege if he was Black or brown… the Odessa shooting may have been committed by a White supremacist.”
            Now they’re running for cover.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 3, 2019 at 11:31 pm #

            Anglin said he was just a guy who had just lost his job and snapped. If he had leanings our way, I assume Anglin would have as much since he follows these shootings closely.

          • SoftStarLight September 3, 2019 at 11:59 pm #

            An old MyLife page for Ator. I believe it was deleted a few days ago now.


          • Janos Skorenzy September 4, 2019 at 1:33 am #

            Ah, not White at all. Most mass shooters aren’t.

        • malthuss September 4, 2019 at 10:58 am #

          False Flag 1— crisis actors. no shots fired.

          FF2– government does the shooting but blames some White male.

          • BackRowHeckler September 4, 2019 at 6:51 pm #

            That didn’t happen in Boston, Malthus.

            I don’t care what the goals are there’s nobody in any level of govt whos gonna murder an innocent 9 year old kid watching his mother run in the Boston marathon.

            No, it was those muslim mothrf#kkers, one dead, one in prison.


    • JohnAZ September 3, 2019 at 3:43 pm #

      The great question is how such a small percentage of the population can acquire so much power?

      • malthuss September 4, 2019 at 11:08 am #

        there have been books and books attempting to or giving answers.

        They are the best networkers [nepotistic] is my op.

        other op s— books like ‘How Jews do It’


        Higher IQ [I doubt this one as there are 7-8 billion people, half of whom have above average IQs]

        Crime [as of 1900 they were the #1 group in crime, once they took over Media, it was the Sicilians they portrayed as the criminals, they are real good at spin]
        emphasize money–‘be a doctor, david’..I knew an MD who ran 2 large hospitals..he said..’Bev Hills is Jewish and those girls are not going to be nurses, they aim to be MDs’

        thru the banking system [Fed res[ control politics..what did Baron rothschild say about elections?

        any thoughts?

  50. venuspluto67 September 3, 2019 at 2:15 pm #

    I mentioned “Dr. Copper” in an earlier comment yesterday. Well, the price of copper would appear to be in a relative nosedive right now.

  51. Something is always going up.

  52. I think we should all pay attention to what Greta has to say.

    • BackRowHeckler September 3, 2019 at 6:07 pm #

      Sounds like she’s reading the script written for her by the UN climate change PR dept.

  53. FincaInTheMountains September 3, 2019 at 6:33 pm #

    the city where the bombing happened at marathon. was that a false flag?

    No, actually it wasn’t – but it was a “funny” story nevertheless.

    The FBI got a tip from the Russian FSB about the Tsarnaev brothers, FBI run a check over to CIA, CIA folks replied “Don’t worry, that’s our son’s of bitches, we’re training em to blow some Russian cities”.

    FBI – “Oh, okey dokey than!”

    Russian proverb – “Don’t dig a hole for someone, you might get into it yourself!”

    • FincaInTheMountains September 3, 2019 at 6:54 pm #

      And now someone must tell me that I am full of shit and the Reuters article does not say anything about CIA training of Tsarnaev brothers.

      Go ahead, make my day, say so!

      • SoftStarLight September 3, 2019 at 10:18 pm #

        LOL your day is made Finc. You kinda are full of shit because the article doesn’t say anything about the CIA training them. Now if you are implying that the article says it because it doesn’t say it then I see what you mean. It’s not like they’re trustworthy anyway. At least not all of em. Right?

        • CancelMyCard September 3, 2019 at 11:13 pm #

          If you came to Finca looking for wisdom,

          You came to the wrong guy completely.

          He is as full of shit at a bag of dog poo.

          • CancelMyCard September 3, 2019 at 11:15 pm #

            “as a bag full of dog poop.”

        • K-Dog September 4, 2019 at 12:16 am #

          It was a false flag. Someday the truth on this one is going to come out.

    • FincaInTheMountains September 4, 2019 at 12:57 am #

      So does a fool, unreckoning,
      But bent on doing something evil,
      For a trifle slit some beggar’s throat,
      Then curses the poor ragged devil.

      A.Pushkin, Scene from the Faust

      • K-Dog September 4, 2019 at 4:23 am #

        When I am bored I do not pretend I am lord.

        • SoftStarLight September 4, 2019 at 10:28 am #

          Are you sure? I thought every man wanted to be lord of his domain?

  54. Pucker September 4, 2019 at 1:34 am #

    The financiers, like Jay Cooke, and the railroads (Northern Pacific Railroad) may have conspired to put pressure on President Grant to exterminate the Lakota and the Cheyenne in order to build the railroad and to sell railroad bonds? They seem to have been trying to get the Native Americans to overreact to create an excuse for the Army to go in and wipe them out. Same old same old…. Now they seem to want more mass shootings as an excuse to grab the guns, presumably so that they can wipe out the Natives again?

  55. Janos Skorenzy September 4, 2019 at 1:36 am #

    JS: Attn Alba – who doesn’t think the System is at war again Whites.

    Why Can’t White People Openly Prefer to Date Each Other
    Liv Heide

    Before I started in 2017, I learned quickly that there is great hostility to the idea of white people wanting to date each other. I learned that a dating platform called “Where White People Meet” had been accused of racism. The entrepreneurs backed down and the site disappeared.

    However, I did not expect WhiteDate ads to be banned from Facebook, Twitter, Google, and Reddit, which meant we had to grow only with the help of alternative media with limited reach. For a few hours we ran an ad on Facebook that targeted Trump followers and got a gratifying number of sign-ups. This gave us a sense of how easy and successful commercial development could have been, because the audience is there: Whites want to date each other.

    Last month the WhiteDate YouTube channel and our Instagram account were banned. You could argue that some of my videos—which you can now find on BitChute—were a bit critical of the system, but the seven posts on Instagram were entirely wholesome.

    Limits on advertising have hurt our progress. Working underground as we do, we count about 3,500 members of WhiteDate. The ratio of men to women is 6.4 to 1, which may not be so lopsided, given estimates that in the broader identitarian movement, the ratio is estimated at 10 to 1.

    Of course, most of our members are fully awake to the challenge of white survival on the ethnic and cultural levels. Even setting aside qualities such as intelligence, creativity, and diligence, people of all races appreciate and pursue the diverse beauty that comes with a variety of eye and hair colors combined with light skin.

    Mendel’s laws and recessive European genes make it hard to maintain our phenotypes and mental qualities, but whenever whites discuss these issues, we risk being deplatformed. It is as if social media companies do not want us even to see ourselves as a distinct group.

    There are hundreds of exclusive ethno-dating sites for Asians, Indians, Latinos, Arabs, Jews, blacks etc, and the major platforms all accept their advertising. Why do they deny European people the same rights? Why do they want to harm whites only?

    I cannot answer these questions, but my experience is irrefutable proof of a blatant double standard: There is a war against our people and our rulers do not seem to care.

    Why Can’t White People Openly Prefer to Date Each Other?

    • FincaInTheMountains September 4, 2019 at 9:06 am #

      the System is at war against Whites

      The Sect is at war against Christianity.

      • SoftStarLight September 4, 2019 at 10:32 am #

        Why are you denying the reality that is noted herein? What benefit do you receive for denying that Whites are particularly targeted this way? Why is it that Whites are allowed nothing, not even a friggin dating site? There is a war on Whites and Christians. Sometimes they are one but not always the same thing.

    • Tate September 4, 2019 at 3:52 pm #

      “There is a war against our people and our rulers do not seem to care.”

      Uh, maybe because it’s our rulers who are the ones at war with us?

      “Why Can’t White People Openly Prefer to Date Each Other?”

      “Why can’t we murder more white people?”
      — 11 minute art film title recently playing at a San Francisco museum.

      • Janos Skorenzy September 4, 2019 at 4:55 pm #

        Yes, our real rulers. But one needs the special glasses to see them.

  56. Pucker September 4, 2019 at 3:26 am #

    Chaz Buttigieg:

    Aug 27
    If you’re a teacher heading back to school, from the bottom of my heart, thank you. Peter and I are so grateful for the work you do.

    SEPTEMBER 3–Seven juveniles have been charged with placing either semen or urine in food that they recently served to teachers at an Ohio middle school, investigators report.

    The criminal charges filed today against the minors–all boys–include felony assault and tampering counts. Six of the accused are 14, while one of the defendants is 15, according to Delaware County Sheriff’s Office reports.

    In mid-May, police began investigating the teenagers in connection with allegations that they placed bodily fluids in crepes that were prepared in a home economics class at Hyatts Middle School in Powell, a city 15 miles north of Columbus.

    It was only after the crepes were consumed by teachers that school employees learned of a troubling video that was circulating among students. That clip appeared to show the bodily fluids being added to the crepes.

  57. Pucker September 4, 2019 at 4:16 am #

    I wonder if Donald Trump and Xi Jinping will Smoke the Peace Pipe after they do the Sun Dance?

    • K-Dog September 4, 2019 at 4:31 am #

      The Sun Dance is about getting together and making personal sacrifices for the community.

      or as we have here: Xi’s Belt and Toad.

  58. Pucker September 4, 2019 at 4:53 am #

    “Sitting Bill” is a mistranslation of the Hunkpappa Chief’s name. It should be “Bull that Sits Down”.

  59. FincaInTheMountains September 4, 2019 at 8:57 am #

    The Sect

    The events in Beslan 15 years ago were also ritual.

    Beslan: The Massacre of the Innocents:

  60. GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 9:55 am #

    Sacked from the Louvre as well.

    They will soon be global pariahs.

  61. FincaInTheMountains September 4, 2019 at 10:20 am #

    Just like Soros, another Jewish front for the Sect.

    • GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 10:27 am #

      I don’t care if they’re Jewish or Martian, Finca. Exploitation is exploitation.

      • FincaInTheMountains September 4, 2019 at 10:29 am #

        As sure as hell’s hot it will be used by prominent CFN anti-Semites.

        • GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 10:34 am #

          I quite agree, Finca. To me if a Jewish person does something exploitative it’s the same as if an Anglo-Saxon person does something exploitative. They’re doing it in their capacity as an exploiter and not in their capacity as a Jewish person or an Anglo-Saxon.

        • SoftStarLight September 4, 2019 at 10:35 am #

          Hah! There is no such thing as an anti-Semite.

        • SoftStarLight September 4, 2019 at 10:40 am #

          Alba you are way far beyond that in your knowledge. That is like saying that two murders are the same. No! Each case is different. A murder of a lover in a jealous heat of rage versus a pre-mediated murder of a lover to cash in on the insurance are two very different things. But both instances are called murder nonetheless. Not all exploitation is done or conceived of in the same way in like regard. We need to know circumstances and motives.

        • GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 10:54 am #

          “Hah! There is no such thing as an anti-Semite.”

          If you say so, Ma’am.

        • GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 10:55 am #

          “That is like saying that two murders are the same.”

          No it isn’t. Although the victims are equally dead.

        • GreenAlba September 4, 2019 at 10:56 am #

          “A murder of a lover in a jealous heat of rage”

          Go on, tell me that’s ‘understandable’. Make my day.

        • Janos Skorenzy September 4, 2019 at 1:19 pm #

          And Gypsies are just people too, right? Just like Whites, Blacks or anybody else. People are just People! Wrong, but for the sake of argument, Why doesn’t this apply to Whites?

          • GreenAlba September 5, 2019 at 11:54 am #

            What on earth are you wittering about?

        • SoftStarLight September 5, 2019 at 1:56 am #

          Nope! I didn’t say either case was understandable or acceptable. Simply that they are actually two different phenomena that end in the same bad result. And the difference between them is important if you have to judge.

          • GreenAlba September 5, 2019 at 11:57 am #

            We were talking about the Sacklers and what their ethnicity happens to be, which is irrelevant to their guilt for deliberately misleading doctors and patients about the addictiveness of their product in the pursuit of profits, your prejudices notwithstanding.

            If they’d been called Anderson, their guilt would be the same.

      • FincaInTheMountains September 4, 2019 at 10:39 am #

        Soros, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Sergei Brin, Jeff Bezos, El Chapo, etc. are just front people for the Sect, effective managers so to speak.

  62. FincaInTheMountains September 4, 2019 at 10:26 am #

    Everything that happens now should have its precursor in History.

    It is extremely difficult to understand the cultural interactions between Satanists and Devil worshipers, but History itself has already done this, since in the Middle Ages this truly diabolical mixture came into interaction with Germanic religions, which are unreasonably considered pagan.

    As a result of this interaction, they united in the course of the anti-Christian and anti-Roman conspiracy, which was called “The Great Conspiracy” in English historiography and the completely inadequate name in Russian historiography – “The Battle of Hadrian’s Wall “.

    Inadequate because this battle was fought across Europe, forcing Emperor Theodosius the Great to proclaim Christianity the state religion of the Roman Empire.

    It was then that these sects moved to the underground, periodically leaving the underground at critical moments in history, and then their rituals such as pedophilia and cannibalism shocked mankind, especially when it became clear that they had performed them before, controlling peoples and countries from underground.

    The fact of the matter is that it is these rituals that the Satanists and Devil worshipers consider the source of power of the Deep State, that is, the state in the underground.

  63. wm5135 September 4, 2019 at 10:30 am #

    Distribution – Redistribution

    Two siblings, one older one younger. At each occasion that some treat is divided the older sibling takes more than half. This continues until one day the younger sibling slabs the shit out of the other and takes his fair share.

    See Galbraith about the odds of inequality ever being remedied by those empowered by that inequality.

    See Jim in Florida – trademarked solution

    • SoftStarLight September 4, 2019 at 10:50 am #

      Jim is right. It’s always good to be good, until its not. Sometimes you have to embrace the Dark to make it to the Light.

      • FincaInTheMountains September 4, 2019 at 10:54 am #

        See Jim in Florida – trademarked solution

        See my statement above – killing the “billionaires” will NOT solve anything, since as just effective managers they’ll be simply replaced by other effective managers.

        • SoftStarLight September 5, 2019 at 2:05 am #

          How about just holding them to account for those who harmed society and our country and future simply for greed and money and power? Maybe treason charges could apply for these big power people who have undermined the country? And Jim’s idea of the White Ayatollah would take care of “managers” who would attempt to repeat past errors.

    • Q. Shtik September 4, 2019 at 12:31 pm #

      younger sibling slabs the shit out of – wm5135


      slabs? haha ha

  64. wm5135 September 4, 2019 at 10:31 am #

    Finc –
    “orthodox zionist” – may I offer you a barbed wire enema?

    Finc – “Have you noticed, CFNers, how some obscure members of the herd, known for posting maybe 3 comments during 5 months, become activated for some unknown reason?”

    Yes I keep checking back to see if you have published “A Unified Field Theory” yet.