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It probably all comes down to money. Money represents the mojo to keep on keeping on, and there is probably nothing more unreal in American life these days than the way we measure our money — literally, what it’s worth, and what everything related to it is worth. So there is nothing more unreal in our national life than the idea that it’s possible to keep on keeping on as we do.

The weeks ahead may be most illuminating on this score. The debt ceiling suspension runs out on December 8, around the same time that the tax reform question will resolve one way or another. The debt ceiling means that the treasury can’t issue any more bonds, bills, or notes. That is, it can’t borrow any more money to pretend the government can keep running. Normally these days (and it’s really very abnormal), the treasury pawns off paper IOUs to the Federal Reserve and the Fed makes digital entries on various account ledgers that purport to be “money.” And, by the way, the Fed is a consortium of private banks not a department of government — which is surely one of a thousand ways that the public is confused and deceived about what condition our condition is in, as the old song goes.

There’s a fair chance that congress may not be able to resolve the debt ceiling deadline. The votes may just not be there. If the deadline comes and goes, the treasury can only use incoming tax revenues to cover its costs, and it won’t be enough. It will have to choose whether it issues paychecks to the roughly 2.7 million US government employees, or pays the vendors that sell things like warplanes to the military, or pay out so-called entitlements like Medicare and SNAP cards, or pay the interest on the previously-issued bonds, debts, and bills that the US has racked up over the years. Believe it or not, making those interest payments is probably the top priority, because failing to do that would shove the nation officially into default for the first time and destroy the country’s credit standing. The full faith and credit in the US dollar would shatter.

And then the fun and games would really cease. The country would discover it doesn’t have its mojo working, as another old song goes. The reality of being truly broke will set in. After all, there are two basic ways of going broke as a nation: you can run out of money; or you can have plenty of money that is worthless. Take your pick.

There is some kind of revolution coming to American life. One way or another, it amounts to a much lower standard of living. The journey there may take the public by surprise, a la Ernest Hemingway’s crack about how a character in one of his stories went broke: slowly, and then all at once. The main question about this journey must be whether it is accompanied by political violence. One would have to think the potential for that is pretty high, given levels of animosity and delusional thinking among the two opposing factions — can we even call them Left and Right anymore? — which may even exceed the ill-feeling of 1861.

The tax reform bill, whether it lives or dies, may only become a laughable footnote to the greater quandary of national insolvency. And, anyway, the proposals so far amount to a hall of mirrors inside a three-card-monte house of horrors that almost nobody really understands. As yet another old song says, this ain’t no Mud Club… this ain’t no foolin’ around. Meanwhile, down in the rococo dining room of Mar a Lago, the Golden Golem of Greatness tweeted yesterday that he was presiding over the greatest stock market ever! Kind of reminds me of the moment that old Joe Kennedy got a stock tip from his shoeshine boy.

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288 Responses to “The Old Songs”

  1. RobH November 24, 2017 at 9:38 am #

    I used to think that you exaggerated. Then I read this


    • malthuss November 24, 2017 at 10:14 am #

      Take the rose colored glasses off.
      There is a battle for your mind.

      • CancelMyCard November 24, 2017 at 10:26 am #

        This “debt limit” racket is getting old.

        Every time it comes up, the GOP stalwarts piss and moan for a few seconds, then cave right on schedule and pass the extensions.

        Move along, nothing to see here folks.

        • K-Dog November 24, 2017 at 12:19 pm #

          Yup, misdirected anger makes us look but their is nothing to see.

          • K-Dog November 24, 2017 at 12:20 pm #


        • rhys12 November 24, 2017 at 6:23 pm #

          It’s true that the debt limit circus is getting old, but sometime something is going to happen that blows things out of the water. It may be the replacement of the petrodollar. Few have noticed that every country we have attacked in recent years under the guise of “fighting the war on terror” has been involved in one scheme or another to replace the petrodollar with a basket of currencies, gold, their own currency, etc. And so the petrodollar still stands because we have destroyed the countries trying to replace it. But if Saudi Arabia crashes, if Russia and China succeed in replacing it – (now you know why the recent Russophobia being pushed by the media, but war with Russia OR China would be all-out nuclear war), or someone else or something else upsets the apple-cart – the US Dollar will crash and so will America.

      • Ishabaka November 24, 2017 at 2:46 pm #

        Interesting that in this age, when any 9 year old can find videos of sexual acts that would have boggled the mind of Kraft-Ebbing, we are demanding our public figures comport themselves like Puritans (Shakers, maybe?).

    • Elrond Hubbard November 24, 2017 at 10:43 am #

      Yup, classic fairy tales have some pretty messed-up sexual politics. When a man starts kissing a sleeping woman who has no idea what’s going on, that’s not creepy and messed up — it’s romantic! Here are some more:

      – For a young girl, the lesson of Beauty and the Beast is that if she’s with a man who scares her, then it’s up to her to love him more and that will cure him. That’s excellent training for abusive relationships later in life.

      – Cinderella is stuck with a crummy step-family who treat her like shit. But that’s okay, because fairies and a handsome prince will fix everything. You know, because of how likely that is. She neither has nor needs any agency of her own.

      – Is Snow White about a polyamorous relationship between a young woman and seven dwarves? The true facts are lost to history.

      Personally, I think Star Wars will replace the fairy tales of old. Things have been trending that way for a while.

      • elysianfield November 24, 2017 at 11:37 am #

        ” For a young girl, the lesson of Beauty and the Beast is that if she’s with a man who scares her, then it’s up to her to love him more and that will cure him. That’s excellent training for abusive relationships later in life.”

        Elrond, a great metaphor!

        Let me see if I get this right…Canada is the Beauty, and Amerika is….

        • Elrond Hubbard November 24, 2017 at 11:46 am #

          To America’s credit, you haven’t abused us since that one domestic violence incident back in 1812. The way it worked out was, we went home to mother, and then mom came over and burned your house down. Then everything went back to the way it was, and there has been peace since.

          Forgive and forget. Live and let live. And let’s not re-open old wounds.

      • earltwitty November 24, 2017 at 1:12 pm #

        Are they going to pull the classics from the libraries and burn them with the Louis C.K. and House of Cards videos?

        • Elrond Hubbard November 24, 2017 at 2:01 pm #

          They’ll become curiosities and matters of scholarly interest for later generations. The professors who study them will be former little girls who grew up wanting to be brave, strong princesses and lead the fight against ultimate evil. Or they’ll be former little boys who wanted to be hairy badasses from the planet Kashyyyk and walk around wearing nothing but a bandolier, the way god intended. (Or they’ll want to be prissy golden protocol droids; I don’t judge.)

          • Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2017 at 2:13 pm #

            In other words you agree with forced cultural change instituted from the very top.

            Feminists shriek that women should have the same “romantic rights” as men to approach. When given those rights, they are “pleased” and then act like every other woman and wait. This same principle can be seen in other areas as well. To make your case, you have to focus on outliers. But sound policy is not made by focusing on the exceptions but the rule, the average not the outlier. Amazing that you never figured this out, eh? That’s what egotism and clinging to ideology can do to a mind.

          • Elrond Hubbard November 24, 2017 at 3:21 pm #

            First, the idea that I only see the extremes and not the norm is ludicrous. Second, this is a weird argument for you to make, Janos, since you’re all about borders and boundaries. From time immemorial, we have a tale of boundaries menaced — every woman a Vienna, the male sex an army of Saracens pounding at the gates and demanding to be let in — and now the invaders are being repulsed, or at least suffering a setback. Yet you complain. Truly, there’s no satisfying some people.

          • GreenAlba November 24, 2017 at 6:05 pm #


            “Feminists shriek that women should have the same “romantic rights” as men to approach. When given those rights, they are “pleased” and then act like every other woman and wait.”

            Feminists do not typically ‘shriek’ any more than men’s rights types typically grunt or roar. Both generally speak – both occasionally raise their voices in frustration. For the terminally prejudiced, it is of course tempting to use the word ‘shriek’ in a manipulative fashion to try to diminish their opponent before discussing their actual point. The practice has a long history.

            Your view is bizarre. Women do not need to make any claim that they *should* have those rights. Nor do they need to be ‘given’ such rights (by whom?) – they have those rights, simply by being human beings with agency, the same as men. They may choose to exercise those rights or not, as is also self-evidently their right. Conventions are not the same as rights, although it is understandable, bearing in mind your general view of the world, that you would think the way you do on the matter.

            Women will choose to follow convention or not, depending on their experiences and/or temperament and/or self-confidence. None of that has anything to do with rights.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2017 at 6:38 pm #

            The whole language of “rights” is skewed to begin with, imposed where it doesn’t belong. There are such a thing as cultural norms. You and your kind seek to overturn such norms and common laws with the language of rights.

            And when the language of rights does apply, as in our 2nd Amendment, you seek to ban them. And your beautiful prose about inalienable rights is exactly the case when it comes to the Bill of Rights. No government can ban private ownership of firearms since they didn’t grant those rights to begin with. They are inalienable.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2017 at 6:40 pm #

            Elrond: I never said women didn’t have the right to say no to a date or a sexual proposition. Where did you get that from? Boundaries are sacred. There is such a thing as an illegal human or people who are where they have no right to be.

          • CancelMyCard November 24, 2017 at 7:10 pm #

            Janos is a paid troll.

            WHEN, will you all get that through your heads.

            He is here to PROVOKE distension.

            Nothing more.

            He is JHK’s hound in the manor.

            When you get too pussy-fied,

            he releases the hound.

            Haven’t you figured this out yet????

          • GreenAlba November 24, 2017 at 7:40 pm #


            ‘You and your kind seek to overturn such norms and common laws with the language of rights.

            And when the language of rights does apply, as in our 2nd Amendment, you seek to ban them.’

            Rights exist in that we, as human beings, have agreed almost universally that they should. I agree that ‘rights’ is a complicated word, in that it doesn’t have any meaning that exists above the level of human beings. Rights cannot be assumed to exist because some external deity imposed them, unless you believe in such a deity.

            On your ‘norms and common laws’ point, throughout human history, many of these have been gradually abandoned where they have eventually been seen to be abhorrent. If not we would still see suttee practised in India, or human sacrifice practised in religions. Norms and conventions are not sacrosanct – they should be subject to rational thought, where they are important enough to merit it.

            You are right that your second amendment rights are rights as normally understood, i.e. they are rights for no other reason than that your political representatives have declared them to be rights, insofar as the majority of you still cling to them as rights. This also can change – it is not something that is written in the stars. One day your great grandchildren may look back at these rights and shake their heads in wonder at such insanity. Or not.

            In the meantime I don’t know why you would presume to know anything about ‘my kind’. You don’t know who I am or what views I espouse other than a minuscule number of points I have made on this site. As for the idea that I ‘seek to ban’ your second amendment rights, that is a seriously odd notion. I do not live in your country; your laws are up to you to retain or overturn. Like most sane people I find the loss of life to firearms in the US tragic and insane, but it’s your tragedy and insanity, not ours.

            You only need to look at the statistics for death and injury by firearms in the US (even people accidentally killed by their own toddlers for goodness’ sake – imagine a child having to live with that) and compare it to the minuscule number of people killed by terrorists. And yet, the noise on the right is about deaths from terrorism and not the incomparably greater number killed by Americans’ own guns.

            But, as I said, it’s your problem, thankfully.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2017 at 9:23 pm #

            I know exactly you are Alby – your kind are legion. And you folks are always hypocrites – arguing rights when it suits you and denying the concept when it doesn’t as per your previous post:

            “Your view is bizarre. Women do not need to make any claim that they *should* have those rights. Nor do they need to be ‘given’ such rights (by whom?) – they have those rights, simply by being human beings with agency, the same as men. They may choose to exercise those rights or not, as is also self-evidently their right. Conventions are not the same as rights, although it is understandable, bearing in mind your general view of the world, that you would think the way you do on the matter.”

            Your only principle is to further the revolution against the White Man and his Civilization. Whatever aids that is good. Whatever slows that is bad. For example, consider the epidemic of Muslim rape against European women. You’re good with it because it help tear down Europe, women’s right be damned. As Sartre said long ago, Marxism is not a humanism and insofar as Feminism is grounded in Marxism (almost completely), neither is it.

            What are you? A little girl whose hand was caught in the Hypocrisy Cookie Jar.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2017 at 10:11 pm #

            Cancel: I like the hound (as in the Dominicans or “Domine Canes” the Hound of God – big players in the Inquisition) part, but paid? By whom? You think the Feds want my pov promulgated? Or by Mr Kunstler? He doesn’t have the money nor does he like most of what I say.

          • GreenAlba November 25, 2017 at 8:09 am #


            “Your only principle is to further the revolution against the White Man and his Civilization. Whatever aids that is good.”

            Your thought processes are sadly curtailed by your idée fixe, which is an unfortunately repugnant one. The revolution against the white man? I am married to a white man, but a rather lovelier specimen than yourself. He would find your views repugnant. He wouldn’t bother arguing with you though. As a doctor, with considerable experience of patients with personality disorders, he would recognise your mystico-religious idée fixe as a psychopathology not amenable to improvement by rational discussion.

            “For example, consider the epidemic of Muslim rape against European women. You’re good with it because it help tear down Europe, women’s right be damned.”

            I abhor rape by anyone against anyone (including men). That you would suggest anyone is ‘good with it’ merely accentuates both the limitations and the repulsiveness of your logical processes.

            “As Sartre said long ago, Marxism is not a humanism and insofar as Feminism is grounded in Marxism (almost completely), neither is it.”

            I am not a Marxist, despite having formally studied Marxism in my youth, along with other political philosophies. Neither am I even a socialist. Although I understand that in the US very few people understand what socialism is – they think having a humane healthcare system where people aren’t bankrupted and consigned to ruin and destitution by the simple misfortune of being ill is the same as public ownership of the means of production. As the Orange Moron would say – Sad…

            I am not even a ‘feminist’ – I do not need to argue for the rights of women because they are self-evident, although I utterly abhor the way these rights are trampled in many places in the world.

            And given it’s Saturday, this page is finished for me. Monday will bring a different one. I am laughing at myself for even bothering to justify anything to such a twisted human being.

          • benr November 25, 2017 at 8:46 am #


            I find it amusing to say this but Janos has you pegged and it pisses you off.
            Socialism is a blight upon humanity in all it’s different forms since it gives way to much power over everyone’s lives to a very select few. Some countries have made it work to some degree with success namely Northern Europe but they have small populations and good resources.
            Single payer healthcare or should we say with hold care since it takes for ever to get seen for serious issues to the point of you are to old you will die before they bother to treat you and in the case of these United states 300 million Americans would mean bankruptcy.
            Add in 20-40 million illegal aliens and it is chaos!
            With Obama pushing flawed Obamacare upon we the people my insurance rates have gone up over $500 a month for a healthy family of three and still rising and wait times have gone from same day service to see my doctor to at times two weeks. Thank you Barry Soetoro you stupid insipid pile of steaming pus.

          • GreenAlba November 25, 2017 at 10:14 am #


            A final point on Islam, since you seem preoccupied with it…

            I live in a fairly nice, but not fancy part of my city. It is mainly composed of nice, but not luxurious Victorian flats. We have numerous Muslim neighbours and Asian corner shops, but they are a small part of the population, along with Chinese, Vietnamese ‘boat people’ from decades ago, and now quite a few Eastern Europeans. There is a small mosque round the corner about 70 yards from my home. On Fridays you see a handful of men in white robes gathered on the pavement chatting after their religious service. They don’t threaten me (either physically or in my mind), but I know Muslims are taught that dogs are unclean (they certainly are!) so I bypass them at a slight distance if I’m walking the dog and I make sure the dog, which loves children, doesn’t go near their children unless the parent looks dog-friendly and the child displays an interest. Live and let live…

            I shop in their shops – I can buy rice and an impressive selection of spices there much cheaper than in the supermarket. They are polite and friendly, and happy to have my custom.

            I don’t know any of them personally, although one near neighbour, a very large begowned chap, is always particularly smiling and friendly and everyone smiles back in reciprocation. Another one, ‘Alf’ (I think his real name is Ali) owns the shop where my husband buys his beer (Alf sells it but doesn’t drink it – again he chooses to live and let live, like most Muslim shopkeepers), is one of the few whose names I know. ‘Alf’ is a gem and very patient with the numerous non-Muslim weirdos and men down on their luck who frequent his shop sometimes looking for items on tick.

            Occasionally – rarely – a woman will pass in full black garb and I feel sorry that she is either obliged to dress like that or feels she needs to. But it would not occur to me, as it would not occur to any right-thinking person, to abuse her in the street because of what she wears or is obliged to wear. And yet many such women receive exactly that treatment in my country, and presumably also in yours. It’s hardly going to build trust and encourage them to integrate.

            I hope that in the fulness of time her community/religion will go the way of the Christian religion, which has had so many more centuries to curb its more disturbing behaviours, which include, as you know, burning people alive for various heresies or suspected heresies, and invading other countries in the name of the Christian god, invasions that still play a part in the mistrust felt towards Westerners who have meddled in the Middle East and other Muslim countries since time immemorial.

            I would not like to see the Islamisation of either my country or those of our neighbours on the European continent. Theocracies of any kind are outrageous and abhorrent to the secular mind – I would not want to live in a country dominated by such as the religious right in America either. But just as I don’t judge all American Christians – or more pertinently all Americans – by the loony Westboro Baptist types, I don’t make any connection between my Muslim neighbours and either ISIS sympathisers or Muslim men who prey on non-Muslim women and girls. In fact, they do also prey on Muslim girls but the issue is somewhat taboo in their communities, so people imagine it doesn’t happen. So, the problem is really men, as much as Muslims, since predatory sexual behaviour knows no geographical or religious boundaries. It just happens to stand out in these cases because of already tense situations. But it does remain a problem and has to be faced (just as there are massive problems of sexual violence in other countries,notably India, which do not involve racial differences, but simply unacceptable male behaviour and attitudes). But it will not be solved by pretending that all Muslim men are sexual predators and that they only prey on non-Muslim women.

            The majority of Muslims in most non-Muslim countries are secular, in that they accept the primacy of non-Sharia law in their country of adoption and do not treat their wives and daughters according the stereotypes to which you hold. That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t like to see the views of fundamentalist Muslims around the world tempered in the way that they generally have been in the Christian world.

            However, the way Donald Trump, for example, is dealing with the problem is beyond hypocritical. Since before his election he has ranted about excluding Muslims from the US. And yet the list of Muslim countries from which he wishes to exclude people does not include the one specific country whose citizens were responsible for the attack on the Twin Towers, and whose government has been spreading the most hateful Wahhabi version of Islam throughout the world, for which is it fulsomely rewarded by the West with huge sales of arms to repress both its own population and, currently the long-suffering Yemeni people. As ever, and certainly as ever with Trump, follow the money…

          • Bob November 25, 2017 at 11:27 am #

            @ benr

            Not to put too fine a point on it, but you’re pretty clueless about “socialism” and the reasons for shoddy, overpriced health care in this country.

            News flash: a “few people” already control your life; chiefly the corporations that I’m sure you love so dearly down in the cockles of your ignorant libertarian heart (see how easy it is to label!).

            There is a long wait time to receive overpriced suboptimal health care, there has been for years, and it’s not because of “Barry Soetoro” (although he didn’t help). It’s because the insurance companies take ever more money from you to then deny you care while the hospitals hire ever more billing clerks to obtain reimbursement. It’s because the AMA and the universities artificially limit the number of medical students while simultaneously pushing students into high-cost subspecialties and limiting access to primary preventative care. It’s because the general American populace is too fucking stupid to understand that good health is on the onus of the individual and that spending $500,000 in the last 2 weeks of a person’s life because “we can’t let Gammy or PawPaw die” isn’t a worthwhile use of resources, and that if you can’t stop smoking and eat right then you’re not entitled to your 3rd or 5th or 20th heart cath and stent procedure.

            The average Canadian hospital has less than a dozen billing clerks; the big name hospital in the southeast that I have the honor of working at (lol) has over 1200. That is what you’re paying ever more money for and that is what single payer health care would eliminate.

            Socialized medicine also better allocates ever more limited resources. The biggest causes of heart disease are diabetes and smoking; both are under the control of the individual. If you can’t be bothered to eat right, get off your fat ass, and stop smoking after being counseled to by your primary care provider then you don’t have the right to fucking complain when someone else who drew the short genetic straw but works a menial job gets care ahead of you (and no, I don’t give a shit who you are or how much fucking money you make). Socialized medicine also recognizes the fact that birth control and quality prenatal care cost a whole lot less than unwanted children that grow up to be criminals or chronically ill children.

          • Elrond Hubbard November 25, 2017 at 12:54 pm #

            I’d like to add to Bob’s observations about neoliberal health care (as in the USA) versus single payer (as in Canada, where I live).

            benr: “Single payer healthcare or should we say with hold care since it takes for ever to get seen for serious issues to the point of you are to old you will die before they bother to treat you and in the case of these United states 300 million Americans would mean bankruptcy.”

            This, to be blunt, is cockamamie nonsense. The true part is about wait times, which are real in Canada, but not for ‘serious issues’. The exact opposite is the case: serious medical issues that are immediately life threatening get pushed to the front of the line, because of course they do. It’s for less immediate concerns where people have to wait, e.g. hip replacements. Yes, waiting sucks, but so does bankruptcy because of unplayable medical bills, or because your insurer wrote a loophole into your coverage, or because the hospital and multiple insurers passed the buck between themselves like a hot potato, or a million other reasons. “Withhold care” applies to the current situation in the USA that you’re defending, not to single payer.

            Are you complaining that single payer health care is rationed? Don’t fool yourself, benr: it’s rationed in the USA as well. The difference is that the rationing mechanism in the USA is price: access to coverage, ability to pay out of pocket, whatever. Pick your poison: wait times on the one hand, insurance hell and/or bankruptcy on the other. Except with a universal system, no one goes without and no one’s life gets ruined by overwhelming debt. With respect to health care, illegal immigrants are a side issue that’s specific to the United States. You all will have to figure that one out for yourselves; it’s neither caused nor cured by the way health care gets paid for.

            Finally, introducing single payer in the USA would make health care more affordable for the country, not less, and by a long way. Information on this is dead easy to find online if you can be bothered to look. Here, let me help:



            In 1970, the USA spent 6.2% of its GDP on health care, while Canada spent 6.4%, so both were pretty much equally affordable. But when you look at 2016, Canada’s health care system had risen to 10.6% of GDP versus a whopping 17.2% in the US. That’s 17.2% of $18.57 trillion or $3.2 trillion USD. If US health care were as efficient as Canada’s single payer system, the cost would be only $18.57 trillion times 10.6% or just about two trillion USD. Let’s give those numbers the respect they deserve, the US currently overspends by ONE POINT TWO TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. Do you feel any healthier? What are you getting for All. That. Money? Screwed is what — truly and royally screwed. Single payer is the solution to that. Please open your eyes.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 25, 2017 at 1:49 pm #

            Alba: All that fits the pattern. Muslims are nice when there are just a few of them. If you could only understand their language and know what they were saying as you walked by!

            A little example: my Cat is very sweet. Seems to think I’m her mother. If she was suddenly as large as a German Shepherd, think our relationship might change? She would then be potentially very dangerous. Just so with Muslims in terms of the size of their demographic.

            Muslims rape out of all proportion to their demographic size. So your “it’s just men” is vile nonsense. It’s their twisted culture and religion. Large parts of Sweden have been transformed by them into very dangerous places whereas formerly one could walk the streets all hour of the day and night. Now there are places where one never goes. Oh and btw, the Crusades were a counter-attack. They attacked Christendom first.

            Interesting that thru your hatred of Trump, you seem to have a glimmer of reality, namely that Wahabism, the dominant form of Islam, is dangerous. You should be able to conclude from that that Islam is dangerous, but your conditioning kicks in. Btw I do agree that not banning Saudi Arabians is just political pandering.

          • ozone November 25, 2017 at 8:22 pm #

            Fake-os Facistenzy sez,
            “… That’s what egotism and clinging to ideology can do to a mind.”

            Good thing it’s only pretend. The roaring cognitive dissonance of this pronouncement would melt down an actual mind.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 25, 2017 at 9:22 pm #

            Oz, you are still clinging to your weak ideology and not to the Way of Nature. I’m the righteous man, the negger, not you.

          • Walter B November 26, 2017 at 6:39 pm #

            Very few Americans have not only not read the Koran and the Hadith or have any understanding of what the belief system is all about anyway. They have not lived among these communities where Islam is the majority. Listening to the opinions of those “not quite experienced enough yet” individuals is always interesting to say the least. I for one am very aware of what the fourth stage, which is theocracy shall entail, and I understand what it will mean for our future once it arrives, which mathematically is a near certainty . I am looking forward to this day and hope that I will still be around to see it. There will be a number of improvements that it shall bring, including an end to the most aggravating side of this diatribe to have to listen to. And the Muslim women are a joy to deal with though dealing with them at all is never really necessary anyway, unless of course you happen to be wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains. But then you can always roll to your rifle and blow out your brains, and go to your Gawd like a soldier.

        • GreenAlba November 25, 2017 at 10:56 am #


          Janos doesn’t ‘piss me off’. There are some people from whom a compliment would be an insult, and Janos is a fine example.

          Re ‘socialism’, what pertains in Nothern Europe is not socialism. It is welfare capitalism, that is capitalism regulated so that the system serves the people rather than the people serving the system and the 1% who mostly benefit from it. The opposite of the unregulated capitalism which we have seen since Reagan and Thatcher is regulated capitalism, not socialism. You will continue to misunderstand though, which is your problem, not mine. ACTUAL socialism/communism doesn’t work – most people outside of North Korea have understood that.

          Re healthcare, your country spends twice as much per capita on healthcare as any comparable developed country, with lamentable results. I pay no medical insurance, but I can call my local GP surgery at 8 a.m. and get an appointment that day.

          My mother had cancer in her 80s and was treated promptly and well in her local hospital, at no up-front cost. She recovered fully after surgery. When she died some years later of a stroke, she was in hospital for 10 days, with no hope of recovery. The staff couldn’t have been kinder. They enabled me to stay overnight with her during that period, as I didn’t want her to die on her own. The care was faultless on both occasions.

          My brother, many years ago, had a child born very prematurely (about 12 weeks, I think). They lived near Birmingham at the time. The baby was sped 110 miles by ambulance to the world-renowned Great Ormond Street Children’s Hospital in London, and given the care she needed, over a period of weeks or months, without any money changing hands. She is now 30 and a perfectly normal and healthy young women, although she did recently have to have an operation to remove an ovarian cyst – again without any up-front cost to her, because she pays for her healthcare through her taxes, as we all do. Many of us would willingly pay more.

          The NHS is underfunded and has structural problems that have been made worse by (mostly right-wing) government interference, including the introduction of a non-clinical managerial elite, as well as the chronic problems of an ageing population. It is also the case that free-at-the-point-of-care systems will always be abused, so the GP waiting room will always include a good number of idiots who can’t wait out a cold/sore throat without going to the doctor hoping for medicine that will have no effect on a cold/sore throat anyway. There is also a relatively minor ‘health tourist’ problem, with doctors having historically been reluctant to pursue ‘health tourists’ for the cost of their treatment in a system that has always put care before money.

          If your country spends twice as much per capita on healthcare than comparable countries and still has worse outcomes, then you need to look at the system. The ridiculous amounts of money that you are having to pay in insurance aren’t paying just for medical care – they’re paying to support a whole raft of parasitic intermediaries leeching off the system, not to mention predatory pharmaceutical companies*. Primarily insurance companies. I want to pay for healthcare only, not a whole system of parasites living off human misfortune.

          I’m sure your new president will fashion something more to your liking – good luck with that 🙂

          *on the subject of predatory pharmaceutical companies and the joys of the free market in healthcare, I positively dare you to read the whole of this New Yorker article on the Sackler family, who made over $50 billlon in revenue from the drug that started off the opioid epidemic in your country – and no, whatever the Orange Moron says, it wasn’t the Chinese – it was the Sacklers, through Purdue.

          It’s a long article and very, very well researched, so worth the read.

        • GreenAlba November 25, 2017 at 3:30 pm #


          “If you could only understand their language and know what they were saying as you walked by!”

          Try not to let your imagination run away with you. It makes you look silly and childish.

        • GreenAlba November 25, 2017 at 3:31 pm #

          And no, I’m not talking just about the Crusades.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 25, 2017 at 9:24 pm #

            But to the extent you talk about the Crusades, you’re wrong because they attacked us first. And what did Sweden ever do to them? Yet their behavior is horrendous nonetheless.

          • Walter B November 26, 2017 at 7:07 pm #

            I seriously doubt that anyone here knows anything about the Crusades JS or even cares to know any facts about them, but this fellow is exceptionally well versed in their history:


            We studied these military actions extensively as we did ALL military actions at the Academy and I can say from my learning that he knows what he is talking about. I am afraid however that your run of the mill American does not need such historical facts with which to form quick, baseless opinions and probably did not even like Crusader Rabbit and Raglan T. Tiger either.

      • FallenHero November 24, 2017 at 4:15 pm #

        I normally like what you say Elrond, but I have to 180 strongly here. Unless your statement was in sarcasm, this is very heavy feminist ideology you are espousing.

        Deconstructionism = leftism

        Back in college the hyper leftists were very concerned with finding everyone (perceived) insult in every western literature they could. I am sure its even worse now.

        • Elrond Hubbard November 24, 2017 at 7:24 pm #

          Well, I am a leftist, and I take social equality seriously. That’s why I’m on record that feminism is necessary, to counter male proclivities — particularly the proclivity to impose ourselves on women sexually, and to impose social roles that advantage men over women. That doesn’t mean that I accept all feminist positions uncritically, or march in lockstep with extreme or even moderate feminists. There’s no perfection, just a necessary counterweight.

          • benr November 25, 2017 at 8:49 am #

            Gee what a surprise.

      • rhys12 November 24, 2017 at 6:09 pm #

        Yes, because it is so likely that a guy with a bag over his head, following his feelings, and swinging a lightsaber is going to solve the problems of the universe. More likely to kill or injure most of his friends if not himself.

    • K-Dog November 24, 2017 at 12:29 pm #


      I feel sorry for the mothers son. As her son he will not grow up with behavior with which to appropriately interact with the opposite sex.

      It is part of human sexual behavior for males to initiate an advance and for females to accept or reject their advances. Details on how this dance is danced vary from place to place and at different times but the basic way it works does not change.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2017 at 2:09 pm #

        Yes, at one point Oedipus while still a hero says, “I’ll kill them, every mother’s son.” The Irony! His would be princess was his mom.

        Elrond wants men and women to be the same. The problem is they aren’t. You want the races to be the same. Same problem. So both of you cling to the exceptions to make your case. In his case, the masculine career woman or butch lesbian. In your case, the rare truly gifted Black.

        • K-Dog November 25, 2017 at 10:20 am #

          If you can’t reward the truly gifted regardless of race or sex you are one sick puppy.

          Elrond divides the world into victims and oppressors and has no answer to the question of what to do when oppression is earned and benevolent. Breaking everything down to power games concentrates on structure but ignores substance. It is a position of intellectual arrogance where sometimes the arrogance is only remotely intellectual. It appears Elron has no sense of humor. Lack of humor is another fault of those who adopt a victim posture and adopt the consequent intellectual arrogance. Having a sense of humor is important because without it we can’t acknowledge our faults, limitations, and all too frequent mistakes.

          • Elrond Hubbard November 25, 2017 at 6:29 pm #

            Q: Why did the humourless leftist cross the road?
            A: That’s not funny.

            K-Dog, meet me in real life and then decide if I have a sense of humour. This is an opinion website; it’s not my mission here to make you laugh. My worldview is much more nuanced than you make it out to be. I’m not the cartoon you paint; I just happen to be quite clear in my positions and don’t brook B.S..

            Also, would you kindly give an example of what you mean by “earned and benevolent oppression”? The more specific, the better. I tend to think of oppression and benevolent as antonyms, but maybe you can help me understand you more clearly

        • Elrond Hubbard November 25, 2017 at 6:48 pm #

          Janos: “Elrond wants men and women to be the same.”

          As always, whether from malice or incomprehension, Janos misrepresents my position. I do not “want men and women to be the same”. Nor am I unaware that there are differences between the sexes. (Race is a different matter, since the narrative of racial difference is a product of pure bigotry.)

          What I want is where all people can live and be judged according to a single, consistent standard. Not a racial bigotry, motivated by poisonous hatred and contempt for the other, that denies people their full humanity because of their skin colour. Not sexual chauvinism that circumscribes the lives of women. I want a world with space for every person to show us who they are: tall or short; fat or thin; male or female — let the chips fall where they may, and let the bigots gnaw on their resentments in futility.

      • GreenAlba November 24, 2017 at 6:14 pm #

        “It is part of human sexual behavior for males to initiate an advance and for females to accept or reject their advances.”

        There’s nothing wrong with that, as long as the person on the receiving end of the advances is conscious, sober and not deliberately put in a compromising situation (such as a predatory director’s hotel room). And as long as the ‘advance’ is done without presumption. Anyway, all an ‘advance’ requires is the use of words. Then it can be accepted or refused with words. Then you can move on or move along…

        Not that it would ever have occurred to me to worry particularly about the fairy tale in question. All the mother needed to do was explain that it was a fairy tale, just as you’d expect her to explain that people shooting at one another in Star Wars or whatever isn’t real either.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2017 at 10:30 pm #

          Each step must be negotiated. May I put my hand on your knee? Yes, you may put your hand on my knee. May I put my hand on your left buttock? Yes. Right buttock? No. Why not? How dare you question my integrity as a Woman! I was just curious….

          • GreenAlba November 25, 2017 at 8:15 am #

            Grow up, Janos.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 25, 2017 at 1:51 pm #

            As you know, this kind of step by step negotiation is recommended by College Feminist centers and even Universities under their sway. It was even mandated by a couple. So romantic, eh?

          • JustSaying November 26, 2017 at 8:15 am #

            Janos still thinks it’s 1955.

        • K-Dog November 26, 2017 at 11:47 am #

          “All the mother needed to do was explain that it was a fairy tale, just as you’d expect her to explain that people shooting at one another in Star Wars or whatever isn’t real either.”

          I agree. The constant rain of unreality and fantasy devoid of any real substance however is not without effect.

          By talking about the fairy tale, children might actually get a better idea of appropriate limits. How the abused mother who can’t even have Snow White get kissed is going to raise any normal son with everything forbidden I don’t know.

    • ejhr November 25, 2017 at 5:52 am #

      The gist of the commentary is OK, but on money Jim is off target.
      First, the Fed is totally incorporated into the government. It’s board members are private citizens but it is advisory only, but still influential. Treasury tells the fed what it can do apart from setting rates.
      Second, the debt ceiling is a complete sham. The Federal government is monetary sovereign. It can never go broke so there is always the opportunity to buy all the student debts and pay for health and education. It cannot be held to a notion of a household which has to live within its means. As long as there are goods and services available the Fed can buy them.
      The Fed has NO NEED to save or borrow its own money, so selling bonds is not for spending power, it’s to control the money supply. Its purpose would be defeated if it spent the bonds money. So on maturity the invested money is returned to the investor. Tax money is also never spent. the Fed only spends new money. It cannot be any other way.

      • K-Dog November 26, 2017 at 11:53 am #

        “The gist of the commentary is OK, but on money Jim is off target.”

        It happens, sometimes it can also be the other way around. As far as short term predictions go JHK can be way off the mark but that is OK and we all know it. A Chihuahua often barks when there is no reason. They also bark when there is reason. It is up to you to tell the difference.


  2. mdl17576 November 24, 2017 at 9:45 am #

    One of the reasons why we have run up such a huge debt, is that despite being told that the economy is doing well, it has been hemorrhaging money overseas for decades through the trade deficit. We simply send out more than we take in, and use debt to pretend it is still the good old days.

    That practice can’t be kept up and like you said, will end badly. We can’t control events at the macro level but we can make individual choices that mitigate the impact of the disruption that is coming. Part of that process of adaptation is getting what we need from within our own borders and what I advocate at: https://americareforged.blogspot.com/2017/11/red-white-and-blue-friday.html

    It also means living a less energy intense life so that as people get squeezed by circumstances they have a viable model to turn to as the old one stops working for them.

    • hmuller November 24, 2017 at 10:29 am #

      I agree, foreign trade is the key.

      Congress will always raise the debt ceiling. The FED and Treasury will always play the dollar creation game.

      When foreigners quit accepting US dollar denominated debt instruments, the real fun begins. The crowd in this forum is well-informed. But most Americans don’t realize that foreigners are subsidizing the US standard of living by sending us real products (think Chinese plastic trash at WalMart), while we send them IOU’s.

      A new international currency is coming. The Powers That Be have long been planning it. The dollars in your wallet may not change (at first); but the way nations settle trade imbalances among themselves will.

      You may think that won’t affect yourself. But if America has to pay for its imports with “real stuff”, it will mean a decreased standard of living.

      • Walter B November 24, 2017 at 10:59 am #

        A new, international currency was always part of the New World Order plan but there have always been those mega-powerful, mega wealthy that oppose it. The drive towards Old Man Bush’s wet dream is a battle that is ongoing and if it ever gets to the point where the wealthy elite climb onboard in sufficient numbers it will certainly come about.

        Unfortunately for Americans, they have been retarded in their comprehension of mathematics and plied with so much credit overextensions that they have forgotten that you cannot spend more than you make forever. Eventually the burden crushes the victim. Even the Federal government has fallen pry to the swamp creatures of debt and will never, ever be able to spend less than it takes in. At the rate that we are going, instead of reworking the income tax system they should simply eliminate it because even if they took ALL of our incomes they would still need to print far more to cover what they spend. The Beast will not starve itself, it will continue to feed until there is no feed lift to be had.

        • elysianfield November 24, 2017 at 11:41 am #

          “they have forgotten that you cannot spend more than you make ”

          Nooo, they have not forgotten, they are not stupid…they just have no other choice…you know…print the money, or take it to the streets (another old song).

          • Walter B November 24, 2017 at 11:47 am #

            You are right, there really is no other choice is there?

          • beantownbill. November 24, 2017 at 12:19 pm #

            There’s always other options. How about risking an uprising by eliminating entitlements, or by true health care reform, or …..

          • elysianfield November 24, 2017 at 6:02 pm #

            How about risking an uprising by eliminating entitlements, or by true health care reform, or …..

            That is what “takin’ it to the streets” means…civil unrest…black slang from the ’60’s.

          • Walter B November 24, 2017 at 6:08 pm #

            These are not options for there are none with the balls, the brains or the abilities to initiate such solutions my friend. Besides, the only real “entitlement” is social security and eliminating that would be theft of the money that was forcibly deducted from our paychecks in the first place. Welfare, food stamps, Medicaid and the other handouts are extortion monies paid to the indigent to keep them from uprising. Health Theft can never be made workable for there is too much profit and power in screwing us all rather than providing actual services. There is only one thing that politicians care about and are able to actually accomplish and that is getting re-elected over and over again.

          • rhys12 November 24, 2017 at 6:14 pm #

            Rome faced the same problem. I believe that one of the emperors, who was an “absolute” ruler, tried to do away with the bread and circuses. The riots were so bad he had to back down.

          • elysianfield November 24, 2017 at 6:17 pm #

            And then consider the “street fighting man”….(another old song).

      • Hands4u November 24, 2017 at 11:54 am #

        The US already had a decreased standard of living, the times of “getting ahead” have been replaced by the necessity of trying to live more simply.

        • K-Dog November 24, 2017 at 12:17 pm #

          But nobody notices so it is all good.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2017 at 2:30 pm #

          The real Holiday is Black Friday or Thankstaking. Thanksgiving just gives people the time and energy to partake in getting the deals.

        • elysianfield November 24, 2017 at 6:02 pm #

          The frogs slowly boiled….

      • malthuss November 24, 2017 at 1:33 pm #

        How could people with even a high school diploma NOT know?

        • elysianfield November 24, 2017 at 6:09 pm #

          “How could people with even a high school diploma NOT know?”

          You know the old adage regarding people not accepting an argument that would lead to the reality of their rice bowl being broken?

          How about an argument that would destroy any hope of a decent future? Couple that with a youthful positive attitude, and you have the recipe of the main course of our banquet of consequences….

    • oilie November 24, 2017 at 12:38 pm #

      Well as long as they keep sending us real stuff in exchange for numbers punched into a computer somewhere, what’s the problem?

      • Walter B November 24, 2017 at 5:24 pm #

        Correct, as long as the Common American Idiot can continue to consume cheap cheese doodles and afford new Dingle Bops all will continue to be ok. Fact is, with even a few bread and circus handouts, the degradation can probably go on forever.

        • CancelMyCard November 24, 2017 at 8:17 pm #

          “Fact is, with even a few bread and circus handouts, the degradation can probably go on forever.”

          All of us here will be greatly surprised
          at how much longer this fiasco will go on.

          A LOT longer than anyone of us is willing to truly believe.

  3. chipshot November 24, 2017 at 9:46 am #

    In summary, first we go broke, then we starve.
    The details of how and when are TBD.

    • malthuss November 24, 2017 at 10:16 am #

      first we go broke,

      Then….then is now?

      • capt spaulding November 24, 2017 at 10:54 am #

        Reading today’s missive, I am once more reminded of past mistakes the Republicans have made. GW Bush ran on that old standby: cut taxes for the wealthy, and deregulate, and it will create jobs and bring prosperity to all. So we voted him & his Republican buddies, and gave them a majority for 8 years. Lo and behold! 8 years later, we nosedived into the ground. The Republicans, however, contain the only subspecies of elephant that can’t remember. This time around, the promises haven’t changed one iota, the predictions are the same, and the solutions are identical. Anybody care to take a guess how this one will work out?

        • K-Dog November 24, 2017 at 12:16 pm #

          As long as people are content to have other people do their thinking for them bullshit will be accepted without question as usual. Votes will continue to be given to wolves.

          • CancelMyCard November 24, 2017 at 8:23 pm #

            Of course the bullshit will be accepted.

            The brilliance of Bernays was that he (and his disciple Goebbels) knew for certain that
            the Bigger the Lie, the Greater its chance of Success.

        • malthuss November 24, 2017 at 1:36 pm #

          I dont hate the republicans, of old.

          It was Bill Clinton who signed, NAFTA and it was when he was in WH that China got most favored nation status.

          • capt spaulding November 24, 2017 at 2:45 pm #

            Clinton was the best republican president we ever had.

        • malthuss November 24, 2017 at 9:36 pm #

          Fema camps? Black Friday, 24-7?

    • benr November 25, 2017 at 8:56 am #

      We won’t starve our farming system is to powerful.
      America can still feed the world if the California style cap and trade aka carbon offset nonsense doesn’t get in the way.

      • chipshot November 27, 2017 at 8:30 am #

        Congrats benr, this may be the most absurd comment ever posted on this site.

  4. Walter B November 24, 2017 at 9:56 am #

    I don’t know about debt ceilings Jim, they have always raised them in the past. Whether or not actually having a debt ceiling on a worthless piece of paper will stop the government from adding zeros or printing worthless dollars is of questionable value since the sellouts in government have not exactly been paying any attention anymore to what they call the “law” anyway have they? Even the general public now realizes that paying your mortgage is now optional and ignoring credit card, home equity and student loan debt is a lot easier than scrounging up enough income to make payments. I cannot see any of that changing unless things get to a point where foreign entities no longer believe the American Dollar Lie and stop taking them in exchange for the stuff that we consume.

  5. akmofo November 24, 2017 at 10:10 am #

    Could be Jim’s psyche is channeling some much deeper..

    Before the Counting of Time: ?Discourses on an Alien Sky

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    • akmofo November 24, 2017 at 10:11 am #

      something much deeper..

  6. malthuss November 24, 2017 at 10:15 am #

    national insolvency.

    Short of moving to the country, how can I prepare? Or can I prepare?

    • benr November 25, 2017 at 8:58 am #

      That is easy buy some land where you can dig a well, get solar panels and grow enough food to feed your family and neighbors.

  7. malthuss November 24, 2017 at 10:20 am #

    As yet another old song says, this ain’t no Mud Club… this ain’t no foolin’ around.

    Funny, I was thinking about this song, yesterday.
    It was the Mudd Club……After CBGBs became over crowded, the revelers went to the Mudd Club. Circa 1978. I was in NYC, at the time.

    this ain’t no Mudd Club… this ain’t no foolin’ around.

    • K-Dog November 24, 2017 at 12:10 pm #

      This ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco,
      This ain’t no fooling around
      This ain’t no Mudd Club, or C. B. G. B.,
      I ain’t got time for that now

      • malthuss November 24, 2017 at 1:38 pm #

        DB had a horrid singing vox, but that didnt stop him.

    • OHealihy November 24, 2017 at 5:43 pm #

      And yet another old song says:

      “You unleash the dogs of a grade-B movie star governor’s war,
      while you sit in the dark, sane with the fear of dyin’.
      We’ll ball in your parks, sane with the flash of livin’.
      I am alive,
      I am human,
      I will be alive again;
      so drop your fuckin’ bombs, burn your demon babies, I will be again.
      A rabid lover, feelin’ the starch in your grin.
      Callin’ for acid, cocaine and grass, and receivin’ your homemade gin.
      Push the button,
      Pull the switch,
      Drop the bean,
      C’mon, make it march !
      Sign me up as a diplomat, my only office is the park.”

      “Mau Mau (Amerikon)
      Blows Against the Empire/ Jefferson Starship released 1970.

      It is usually annoying when lyrics are substituted for opinion. But hey, sad songs can say so much, right ? Oops!

      • malthuss November 24, 2017 at 9:34 pm #

        Kantner is dead. Another lefty cocaine addict.
        I recall a review, way back when, probably in Rolling Stone.
        The review went something like this,

        If this idiot thinks this record is ‘Blows against the empire’ let him throw pablum against a skyscraper. See how that goes.

  8. wm5135 November 24, 2017 at 10:22 am #

    In keeping with our host’s structure of the day:

    “Picture yourself in a boat on a river
    With tangerine trees and marmalade skies……….

    Look for the girl with the sun in her eyes
    And she’s gone”
    Lennon and McCartney

    ” the greatest stock market ever!” The girl with the sun in her eyes.

    • K-Dog November 24, 2017 at 12:03 pm #

      ‘You can’t always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you can get what you need.’

      Trump reminds us ‘You Can’t Always Get What You Want’

  9. kimmasad01 November 24, 2017 at 10:29 am #

    Maybe Mnuchin’s Scottish wife can resolve the upcoming debt crisis. He can’t seem to go to work without her and her #valentino

  10. badberries November 24, 2017 at 11:08 am #

    “Up on the tight rope, one side’s fire and one is hope”.

    I thought we had collectively passed through the self flagellation stage in the 70’s and 80’s when the truth about those naughty Catholic priests smeared the headlines. But apparently we need to be reminded what sick little fuks we are…constantly.

    I can’t tell you how many times I have “mimed” copping a feel on some little tart ala’ Al “Stuart Smalley” Franken..maybe that should be his defense..? It was his alter-ego (S.S.) acting out his repressed adolescent fantasies? Did anybody get hurt?..uhhh..no.

    And what about Louis C.K. spankin’ the chimp in front of some chicks!! WTF?? Did anybody get hurt?…uhhh..no.
    Maybe he should have slipped a twenty into her(their) purse(s)and they got nuthin’ to bitch about, they got paid….

    Anyway, if Louis had gone to a Catholic school he would have known not to play with himself “you’ll go blind!!”. Maybe that’s why he wears glasses?..”say three hail Marys and one act of contrition” and you’re free to do it again..yippee!

    Okay, okay somebody got hurt…they got their delicate feelers roughed-up a bit….and now they get to sell their stories and..( money makes such a good band-aid for imaginary boo-boos) do the talk show circuit..

    Now, don’t get me wrong, that fugly Turd, Harvey Weensteen actually caused some harm..physical harm…Rape.
    For the harm he caused, ol’ Harv should be given a choice between five years (ahh the lasting memories..) in a Mexican Prison or learning a new dance called the Falanga (more lasting memories..).

    I’d gleefully volunteer to teach ol’Harv that step…I’d even bring my own “Switch”,…a nice piece of willow sapling..flexible, yet sturdy…”sing for us Harv,..sing for us,.. you fat fuk”.

    And what about our host, Mr.JHK? Anybody going to be writing a “Tell All” about you? About the innumerable times at innumerable Manhattan parties where around midnight even the fatties look good? and the “Crotch-bumps” were unavoidable?

    Ha ha, I’d still buy your writings, even if the money gets sequestered until after the harassment suit is settled.
    Like I said, Money is a great Band-aid for imaginary boo-boos.

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    • K-Dog November 24, 2017 at 11:58 am #

      ‘Louis C.K. spankin’ the chimp in front of some chicks!!

      That seemed weird to me but I have since realized that with 2% of unwilling participants the action did not go any further than the chocking of the chicken. 98% of participants, those we do not know about, got down on their knees and using both hands these willing participants took over the manual manipulation in many creative ways going far beyond simply spanking the monkey. We do not hear about these willing participants, We only have heard from those making complaints so we don’t get a true image of Louis C.K’s predilections.

      • Elrond Hubbard November 24, 2017 at 2:13 pm #

        K-Dog: “We do not hear about these willing participants”.

        Well we have now, thanks to you pulling this mythical 98% out of your ass. What do you mean, you have ‘realized’ that this is the case? You’ve ‘realized’ something you don’t know a damn thing about and is likely a complete fantasy of your own devising? What is wrong with you?

        Read this article:


        Louis C.K. isn’t in trouble because he took advantage of groupies (as if schlubby 40-something comedians have groupies like they were rock stars). He did it to other comedians — people who may have thought highly of his comedy, but knew him on a professional level, not as worshippers from afar. He also did it to female comedy writers who depended on him for their jobs, e.g. at the Chris Rock Show.

        “98% of participants”. Good grief. Even if this is meant as satire, it’s bad satire. If you’re serious, you’re a real jerk. K-Dog.

        • K-Dog November 25, 2017 at 9:48 am #

          Elron, you may not be aware of this but some people like to have sex. If women were not offended by his comic directness when expressing his desire they probably hopped right on his bone. It does not take a genus to figure this out, but it is something you can’t do. I understand.

          Your ranting about my ‘percentage’ shows you did not read very well because I stated ‘I figured it out’ so I was being facetious in a fun way is obvious. The 98% figure is however not without some merit because considering the number of shows C K has given over the years that is a figure you might come up with. As a normal dog with normal desires again something you can’t fathom) the supposition that Louis would want to whip his dick out after every show once he experienced success is rather obvious.

          Perhaps I should have picked 90%. It has long been an urban myth that directly asking a woman for sex will result in success 10% of the time. I personally doubt that percentage has any merit, but picking that number would have flipped this urban myth percentage on it’s head. That would have been fun.

          Fun, something else normal dogs like to do.

      • K-Dog November 25, 2017 at 9:56 am #

        But it’s all right now
        I learned my lesson well
        You see you can’t please everyone
        So you got to please yourself

        La la la la la la la la

    • Sean Coleman November 24, 2017 at 5:48 pm #


      You say Weinstein is said to be guilty of rape. What are the specific allegations?

      Do you mean the Italian-Filipino model? You know, the one the NYT did an article on, ‘Weinstein has a Brush with the Law’? Where Weinstein ‘leaned’ on the authorities, using all of his Immense Power, or so they say?

      She was the one who (they reported) had made an accusation against a seventy-year-old man back in Italy and innocently ended up at one of Silvio’s infamous ‘bunga bunga’ parties, where she did not participate in any illegal acts. She also testified against Berlosconi in court. According to the article she retracted those stories, or disowned them, or agreed that they were not true, under questioning. Harvey’s lawyers also were going to argue that he touched her breast because they were discussing whether they were real, in the context of possible lingerie modelling work and the prosecutors thought again about whether they could win a case. And this all in an article that was sympathetic to her. This poor innocent who had such bad luck to roll up at Harvey’s gaff, of all places! I still laugh when I think about it.

      Or are there other credible allegators? I honestly don’t know. I haven’t looked at any others since, life being short.

      • Sean Coleman November 24, 2017 at 5:56 pm #

        “or so they say” – as in so some people say, not the NYT

      • benr November 25, 2017 at 9:02 am #

        Indeed I was always under the belief that innocent until proven guilty.
        Everyone deserves their day in court.
        Harvey, Hillary, Obama and all the other people who are being accused of crimes.
        Some deserve jail and some deserve the rope or even tar and feathers if found guilty.

        • Sean Coleman November 25, 2017 at 11:33 am #

          It is possible that he committed rape but I believe it is very unlikely because in a witch hunt this is how things always are. I just cannot see it in Weinstein’s case unless the definition of rape has been extended to pestering and pawing. I wouldn’t mind hearing of specific allegations so I can look them up and see if the rule holds. It is annoying to have to spend an hour or two of your time though. I would prefer it if someone did it for me though.

        • ffkling November 25, 2017 at 9:23 pm #

          Sure, Benr, I’m sure you would be the definition of fair and balanced.

  11. teddyboy46 November 24, 2017 at 11:10 am #

    the proposals so far amount to a hall of mirrors inside a three-card-monte house of horrors that almost nobody really understands.

    that is such a great explanation of what is going on in congress.

    • K-Dog November 24, 2017 at 11:46 am #

      Yes, something to reflect on indeed.

  12. capt spaulding November 24, 2017 at 11:10 am #

    Heard this joke over Thanksgiving: What’s the difference between a Garbanzo Bean and a Chickpea? …….Trump doesn’t like having a Garbanzo Bean on his bed.

    • K-Dog November 24, 2017 at 11:40 am #

      He probably does not like it if a chick pees in his bed but I could be wrong since wet pussies are the best kind. We don’t really know how he feels and would have to ask him how he feels after he grabs a wet one.

  13. K-Dog November 24, 2017 at 11:34 am #

    When Carter was president and there were budget troubles and the military ways slow in getting paid. Paychecks have to be paid out within a certain amount of time or people can legally walk away from their enlistments. I believe one time pay was delayed so that the deadline was only a day away.

    The idea that the budget deadline will come and go without a tire patch being thrown on the inner tube of state is not reasonable. The Golem of Greatness will find the idea that the military rank and file who already live close to the poverty wire will know exactly what to do to conserve and survive. While they go hungry for their country (as I once did) Trump may munch on a Maine Lobster but he is all about the military so he will appreciate their sacrifice with every dip into his clarified butter.

    People who are into collapse and I am one expect the world to run logically and that it will respond to events in a way that makes sense. The idea that a country runs out of money and consequently collapses makes total sense. The reality however is different. Effect immediately resulting from cause is too simplistic in a global perspective when discussing human affairs.. Expecting collapse to happen when it should is a mistake. Collapse will happen but it will be delayed. Reality will catch up with the balance sheets but it will do so on it’s own time. We will go broke slowly for a while longer before it can happen all at once. We should not forget that while the sun sets on our empire, it can also rise.

    Can unfocused milling angry mobs be called a revolution? The answer is no. Any leadership of a new American revolution will be using electronic means to communicate. The deep state will thus be knowing everything they do. It will be no more than a days work to end the next American revolution and any revolution can’t be leaderless. Thus there will be none here. If any do start they will get no or misleading media coverage while they are being suppressed. The rabble will be kept in check.

    • Ol' Scratch November 25, 2017 at 3:44 pm #

      All of which is why a traumatic collapse will be required first. Necessity being the mother of invention and all that

      • K-Dog November 26, 2017 at 12:03 pm #

        You mean only in a traumatic collapse can rebellion succeed. As no real change can happen without a traumatic collapse first we are then committed to a slow erosion in which we all get poor slowly at first before we then go broke fast.

        A ruling class will be using surveillance to enforce a slow collapse. There will be a point where the ruling class ‘gets it’ and understands what is going on. After that they will become very cruel.

    • ffkling November 25, 2017 at 9:33 pm #

      Whatever you say, Mr. Law and Order K-dog tough guy.

      p.s. forgot to say, long live Dear Leader Man-Child.

  14. pequiste November 24, 2017 at 11:44 am #

    Debt ceilings were meant to be raised because they don’t matter. Just ask Dick “Black Heart” Cheney. The slimebags in CONgress need to just make it an even, psychologically pleasing, nice round number, say, $100 Billion and move on to other more important and pressing issues: importation of more Somalis, a new and improved replacement for the F-35, and Federal grants for gender reassignment surgeries.

    Bitcoin is going to a frothy $25,000 a pop, I can smell it. (Maybe the jeanyusses at Steve Munchkin’s Treasury can invest in some Bitcoins to bring in some shekels.}

    An old song interlude: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJOjTNuuEVw

    (Busby Berkely and Ginger Rogers!!)

    Dow Jones a robust 25,000 in time for “The Holidays.” (Must expunge the hurtful term “Christmas” every way possible.)

    And almost finally: “Black Friday” – is it not just plain rayciss? Buy lots of shit anyway Lumpen!

    I hope everyone got to enjoy a Happy Thanksgiving.

    The Yzlamik jihadis were busy partying with over-exuberance and celebrations of their own in El Arish, Egypt:


  15. TiredOfTheTreadmill November 24, 2017 at 11:46 am #

    From all appearances so far, it seems 2017 will end worse than it started. It also appears that the largest step downward as a country is in the caregories of common decency, adults acting like adults, leaders acting like leaders, and fewer and fewer role models visible anywhere in the public mainstream.

    After watching things disintegrate this year I have reconsidered my vision of collapse. Like many I thought collapse would involve financial implosions, food shortage riots, chaos, bedlam, and all the other images Hollywood had given us over the decades. Instead, it looks like social/cultural depravation will lead our collapse as everyone seeks to avoid any responsibility or adult behavior of any kind. Much like the movie Idiocracy in which the denizens of the time were too ignorant and distracted to notice the shithole they lived in.

    It’s Jim’s “nothing matters and anything goes” mantra all the way to the bottom. Morris Berman also predicted this cultural collapse coming long ago. At this point it’s just a question of how low we can go before the herd notices how crappy things are outside…if they can look away from their phones for a few seconds.

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  16. beantownbill. November 24, 2017 at 12:16 pm #

    CFN has been discussing collapse for a long time. It hasn’t happened yet, but given enough time, I suppose it will eventually. It’s like playing roulette – you bet on the number 6, say, and it doesn’t come out, but if you play long enough, it will. It has to.

    We’ve been at the roulette table of life for a long time and the little ball hasn’t yet dropped in the 6-slot yet. We all know if we play long enough our number will come up, though.

    The one area that’s very interesting is what form an upheaval will take. Personallly, I think it will be a black swan, something we never discuss, like the aliens landing, or a new immortality drug discovered (I know, I’m making extreme, ridiculous examples, but you get the point), or some state – like California or Texas – breaking away from the USA. That’s what happened to the USSR.

    We sure do live in scary, interesting times.

    • TiredOfTheTreadmill November 24, 2017 at 12:29 pm #

      I’d say we had an orange swan appear with Trump’s election. Government isn’t really known for it’s creativity and imagination, but those two traits are completely absent from this guy’s cabinet as denial has become the character skill of choice.

      Like you though, I have concluded that the few brains hehind the scenes have become experts at polishing turds and that’s the only way the wheels have stayed on yhe cart this long. However, that unforeseen event that tips the first domino is the likely trigger. It may be something incredible like the ufo you mention, or it may be something along the lines of a wimper like a species of insect going extinct that is much, much more important than we could have thought possible.

      Also, it may be more like black termites than black swans. A whole bunch of little guys that we didn’t even know were chewing up the walls finally break through the surface. Either way, I am betting that 2018 ends much worse than it begins.

      • malthuss November 24, 2017 at 1:42 pm #

        Bonds and Bombs, the American way.

        Collapse is slowly happening. Borders going, GMO foods, Indian MDs who ‘always pass the licensing.’

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        • Bob November 24, 2017 at 10:50 pm #

          The issue isn’t just Indian MDs who “always pass the licensing”, it’s that medical schools preferentially admit foreign students (esp. Chinese, Korean, and Indian) that pay full freight. It’s good for the schools since they get to check both the diversity box and the profit box in one fell swoop. It’s also good for the prospective physician since they get access to the US medical care racket.

          As it tends to go, it’s a loss for the patients and the staff that work for these physicians since said docs can’t communicate with and aren’t respected by the ancillary staff (bad) and don’t share the same cultural framework as their patients (worse).

    • K-Dog November 24, 2017 at 12:38 pm #

      The odds on a roulette wheel do not change with time. As resources deplete the odds of collapse increase and your analogy fails.

      No offense to you Beantown but I am alway struck by the “We’ve been at the roulette table of life for a long time and the little ball hasn’t yet dropped in the 6-slot yet.” argument. Egos make this argument.

      In the greater scheme of things our individual lives are sparks in darkness. That an unstable system takes more time to spin apart than the time for a couple of sparks to light the darkness does not mean the system was not unstable.

      It takes time for all the oil to be sucked out of the ground and for things to go to shit. Be patient. It will happen.

      • malthuss November 24, 2017 at 1:46 pm #

        As resources deplete—thats half of it.
        The other part is skyrocketing human and animal populations.


        • benr November 25, 2017 at 9:09 am #

          46 million turkeys lived because Americans wanted to eat Turkey.
          Otherwise they would never have been hatched.
          Further them turkeys had to eat so they ate around 100 pounds of feed to get to six months.
          Do the math that is a lot of farmers getting paid to grow feed and turkeys.
          Feed is a renewable resource as are turkeys…thankfully.
          What exactly was your point?

          • K-Dog November 25, 2017 at 9:18 am #

            That the mass of humanity has exceeded the carrying capacity of the planet is the point.

          • ffkling November 25, 2017 at 9:34 pm #

            Benny boy, you’re too obtuse to get the point so why bother explaining.

        • ffkling November 25, 2017 at 9:36 pm #

          Thank you, malthuss, for a moment of clarity.

  17. janet November 24, 2017 at 1:44 pm #

    Isn’t there a bit of hypocrisy in claiming to be against deficits, against the increasing national debt, and then supporting “tax reform” which increases deficits by $1.5 Trillion?

    To decrease the debt we should be increasing the marginal tax rate on everyone earning more than $1,000,000 (one million dollars) a year. If the rich and the multinational corporations they run actually paid what they owe, the national debt would decrease.

    Instead we are told our taxes will be lowered … meaning our services and entitlements, like Social Security, TRICARE, Medicare, etc. will be cut, our quality of life will decrease…

    But don’t worry they say, there is an invisible hand that will cause the rich to spend more of their money investing in “job creation” and their wealth will trickle down on us … even though the last 30 years show that is a lie. The problem is we have a president who likes trickle down and golden showers.

    The patriotic thing to do is oppose “tax reform” … instead, support tax increases on the rich and the multinationals so they pay their fair share. Many multinational corporations pay no tax at all. The 35% corporate tax is a myth.

    Although the top corporate rate is 35 percent, hardly any company actually pays that. A report by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy found nearly 40 percent of profitable Fortune 500 companies paid no taxes in at least one year between 2008 and 2015. Eighteen, including General Electric, International Paper, Priceline.com and PG&E, incurred a total federal income tax bill of less than zero over the entire eight-year period — meaning they received rebates. The institute used the companies’ own regulatory filings to compute their tax rates.

    The 35 Percent Corporate Tax Myth


    • Robert White November 24, 2017 at 5:09 pm #

      Urinate-Down-My-Pantleg Accounting started with Reagan, and the more often one repeats a lie the more often that lie will be believed.
      Corporatists are enriched by ‘piddledown’ economics because their books profit by it personally, and professionally. QE Infinity all went to stock buybacks, and none of it was invested in anything but stock buybacks. No infrastructure investments have occurred to employ that rabble. Tax cuts for the rich is merely the mantra of corporatists, and the liars they employ to generate more lies on top of the last lies they managed to make it to the bank on. Short-termism is the rule to profit when the long game becomes obviously hard to imagine.


    • Q. Shtik November 25, 2017 at 3:37 pm #

      support tax increases on the rich and the multinationals so they pay their fair share. – janet


      How much is one’s fair share ?

  18. malthuss November 24, 2017 at 1:44 pm #

    That’s what happened to the USSR.

    Communication became easier between East Germany and West Germany and the serfs in the USSR got tired of being serfs. They saw what capitalism did for people.
    Cell Phones and Airplanes have many effects.

  19. janet November 24, 2017 at 2:08 pm #

    “They saw what capitalism did for people.” –malthuss

    We’ve had capitalism for the last couple hundred years and every week our host writes about what it “did for people.” We need a democratic socialism that REDISTRIBUTES the wealth the rich have accumulated to create wealth inequality.

    America’s top 1 percent, for instance, holds nearly half the national wealth invested in stocks and mutual funds. Most of the wealth of Americans in the bottom 90 percent comes from their principal residences, the asset category that took the biggest hit during the Great Recession. These Americans also hold almost three-quarters of America’s debt.

    We are not broke. The money is there for UBI, but we have to demand it be REDISTRIBUTED. A universal basic income, or UBI, is a policy proposal that has gained increasing public support in the U.S., including from many tech business leaders including Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg. Icing on the cake: UBI would grow the economy. Social justice is da bomb, yo.

    New Report Claims UBI Would Grow the U.S. Economy by $2.5 Trillion


    • Elrond Hubbard November 24, 2017 at 4:16 pm #

      If people like Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg are in favour of it, that’s a signal that it doesn’t go far enough — i.e., it leaves the ultra-wealthy in effective control of the society, with most people as one or another variety of serf. A real challenge to the oligarchy would mean breaking their stranglehold on power, not just buying off the population with a subsistence income.

      There have been experiments with one or another kind of basic income in the past, and the results are instructive:


      To sum up, the historical record indicates that a guaranteed basic income ends up being a subsidy to employers — the larger the employer, the bigger the effective subsidy. This goes a long way to explaining why some billionaires favour the idea. Wal-mart is an infamous case of a company that depends on outside subsidies to its employees — welfare and unemployment, Medicaid, and similar benefits. Their employees couldn’t hope to survive on their meager wages alone, and Wal-mart couldn’t survive without them.

      What’s more, there is some merit to the idea that a basic income discourages people from working. It tends to create a dependent underclass of people who lack salable work skills, for lack of work experience to develop those skills, and therefore unable to leave the basic income program whether they want to or not. A job guarantee would be a much better policy — anyone who wants a job can have one, doing whatever needs to be done either full-time or part-time, and receive a living wage. They stay connected to the working world and end up with transferable skills they can use to move up from the basic level. That’s a system that serves the society, not the oligarchs.

    • benr November 25, 2017 at 9:13 am #

      Janet you dunce.
      You are the top 1% that communist jargon you espouse is as stupid as it gets.
      Why should we the working class support the slugs that don’t want to work.
      If you can work you should if you can’t then and only then should the safety net kick in.
      Jesus I can’t get over how incredibly dense some people are in not understanding simple fact when people realize they can get increasing benefits from voting in the promisers eventually you get Greece or Venezuela.

      • Ol' Scratch November 25, 2017 at 2:54 pm #

        Yes, we should ALL be forced to “work” as hard as the top 1%. You’re nothing more than an apologist for the rich and an idiot.

        • ffkling November 25, 2017 at 9:37 pm #

          Bingo, Ol’Scratch.

    • Q. Shtik November 25, 2017 at 3:45 pm #

      Icing on the cake: UBI would grow the economy. – janet


      I don’t want the economy to grow. I want it to shrink. A growing economy eats up the earth’s resources.

  20. trolleybill November 24, 2017 at 2:18 pm #

    I’ve been on this road like Jim somewhat being a year shorter in the tooth. Had My epiphany walking point up the tail end of the central highlands. I stopped and put my hand up with 5 fingers signaling a rest. I would go out a check we didn’t stop by a trail or bunkers then returned and lifted a palm branch and noticed we were up high and down below in the valley was a lone papa san plowing his field behind a water buffalo. It was in a setting of a multitude of greens so vibrant and there was a simple palm thatched roof hut. A painting could not of done it justice. The epitome of self sufficiency was there and it wasn’t complicated it was just hard work and knowledge passed down from generation to generation. I’ll refer to the Ehrlich book “Population Bomb” 1968 which was 49 yrs ago when our population was barley 200 million. I believe that if Jim and I are around in 20 yrs things will barley be different but many things will have changed as they have in the last 50….:)

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    • malthuss November 24, 2017 at 9:15 pm #

      barley was in the fields.

      1968 which was 49 yrs ago when our population was barley 200 million.
      BARELY is what ya meant.

      And I guess USA population was 180-200m in 1968.

    • Q. Shtik November 25, 2017 at 3:57 pm #

      A painting could not [of] done it justice.

      things will [barley] be different


      These two beauties come from the keyboard of trolleybill.

      I guess I am supposed to sit back and say nothing.

  21. PeteAtomic November 24, 2017 at 2:19 pm #

    I believe the GOP & Trump have already come out saying the debt ceiling will be raised. I don’t think they have any choice but to continue passing it, imho. The other choices are what you describe in the article there, and I don’t believe that the Congress will ever face reality.

  22. marcus1 November 24, 2017 at 2:19 pm #

    How dare you compare our President to a shoe shine boy! That’s an insult to shoe shine boys everywhere-boy.

  23. tucsonspur November 24, 2017 at 2:44 pm #

    Sometimes it helps to look at things from a different perspective.
    So let’s talk about money, scale and “fairness”, leaving out medical rackets, college costs, etc.

    Like the definition of 69, “let’s face it”, with this single example.

    Roger Goodell, NFL commissioner, is set to make perhaps 50 million dollars a year. Let’s go on the low end and make it forty million.

    Now someone working (slaving?) away over a lifetime of forty years at 50 grand per would have made two million over that period.
    So to equal Goodell’s 40 million For One Year, this poor slob would have to work 800 years!

    Right, life just isn’t fair. Power IS with the people, though. People with money. And the “people” created by Citizens United.

    So, to sum it up, it’s all about money, the scale is way out of balance, and life is not only unfair, but also too often unkind.

    • Ol' Scratch November 25, 2017 at 2:51 pm #

      Right you are, to a point. The trouble with your argument is that it’s not “life” that’s unfair, it’s simply human systems that are unfair. And as fellow humans, we all, potentially at least, have the ability to change those systems if we so desire. Now it might well be that after considering all the pro and cons of such systems honestly (assuming most of us even have the mental faculties remaining to do so) that we STILL decide to continue on with the current status quo, but just imagine the possibilities if a significant portion of the population decided that, what the hell, they have nothing left to lose anyway, so WHY NOT rise up against the people in power who have shit on them with impunity for their entire miserable lives?

  24. janet November 24, 2017 at 2:45 pm #

    “the Fed makes digital entries on various account ledgers that purport to be “money.” –JHK

    It IS money and has been for decades, including the 1950s many of y’all are all nostalgic about.

    The Fed was created over a hundred years ago. Whether those account ledger entries are hand-written, or digital, does not matter. The Fed has worked for more than 100 years with only a few hiccups which were quickly remedied.

    The Fed has a dual mandate to foster maximum employment and stable prices over time. Right now, unemployment is 4.1% and we now have the lowest inflation rate since October of 2016 due to a 0.4 percent fall in gasoline prices. Ask Mr. Trump how great America is.



    • Ol' Scratch November 24, 2017 at 5:48 pm #

      You are TRULY an idiot!

      • janet November 24, 2017 at 7:55 pm #

        “You are TRULY an idiot!” –Ol’ Scratch

        I have a different perspective. Any Apocalypse will be Trump-induced. The idiots are those who voted for Trump.

        Trump is going to be the cause of economic collapse of the USA, not the Fed.

        Trump will be the cause of a nuclear conflagration, not the Fed.

        The deplorables who voted for serial-bankruptcy-Trump are guilty of destroying America.

        • Ol' Scratch November 25, 2017 at 7:05 am #

          Once again, your naive focus on Trump vs Hillary is so childish as to not even deserve consideration. You (or your programmers) need to go back to first grade and start all over again, although I’m thinking some rather intensive Special Ed course work is going to be required in your case as well.

          • benr November 25, 2017 at 9:15 am #

            For once we agree Janet is a brain washed moron.

    • Q. Shtik November 25, 2017 at 4:32 pm #

      The Fed has a dual mandate to……….


      mandate schmandate

      God I hate that phrase. I forget who dreamed it up and when.

  25. janet November 24, 2017 at 3:11 pm #

    Who says the economy is worrisome? Goldman Sachs has officially projected 4% U.S economic growth for 2018!

    The ‘merican people got that there socialist Muslim out of the white house… so Mr. Trump can make America Great Again. Or so the story goes.

    Mr. Trump says everything is great. Mr. Kunstler seems to think we are headed to a great collapse.

    As Mr. Trump likes to say when he avoids answering press questions: “We’ll see”

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  26. wholy1 November 24, 2017 at 3:54 pm #

    Yup, the “Quickening” gets more exciting/out-of-control daily and at some not-yet-known triggering inflection point/critical mass moment, entropy will no longer be forestalled/denied. Ya’ll best be getting the HELLo away from those “coasters”, “citYzens”, nuke plants and GROUNDed on a portion of inland, elevated, RURAL, arable, UN-encumbered/UN-addressed county dirt. Get GATHERed, GUNned, GARDENed, PROVISIONed and . . . S-I-M-P-L-I-F-I-E-D! The “Blessings from the Beginning” are revealed and thereby accessible to the faithfully repentING/REDEEMed/GATHERing RemnantS, fulfilled in daily fellowship of collaborative PRODUCTIVE enterprise and the opportunity to assist/gather other repentING in greater need. And as such . . . relieved, humbled and thankful for sight of One’s salvation BEFORE having – unknowingly – “run out One’s clock”.
    As a FIRST-year “boomer” (’46) when the violent mass blood letting and carnage was replaced with ejaculate during mass divine co-minglings of [returning war vet] Man to [waiting] wo[mb]Man; now at 71+, after experiencing war “up close and personal” in ‘Nam followed by a couple of years of int’l careening – pretty-much ripped to the tits 24/7, culminating in 5 years at BangKwang, Thailand’s notorious maximum security prison, I am now increasingly mollified daily by the thought of being “a little closer to Home”. Considering the “State” of absolutely blatant and pervasive “official” criminality, corp-owned media propaganda, corp/gov-controlled lib-turd academic cry-bullies, AI killer drones/robots, cyber and space weaponry, brain chips, etc, I hope the “almighty Author/Lord” has already “checked me out” – as Jim Morrison was purported to have once not-so-eloquently stated, ” . . . before the whole shit-house goes up in flames”, and the radioactive ash begins to settle.

    • elysianfield November 24, 2017 at 6:29 pm #

      Understood only a bit of what you posted…still “ripped to the tits”?

  27. wm5135 November 24, 2017 at 4:18 pm #

    “The reality of being truly broke will set in.” JHK

    Perhaps the lack of any offer of a hand up, the realization of moral bankruptcy and abject poverty would be sufficient to crack the facade of willful ignorance. On the other hand what is it that the populace deserves today to keep them consoled on their journey into debt slavery?

    I grew up in the South – as long as there is someone beneath you on the ladder of success you are a winner.

  28. tucsonspur November 24, 2017 at 4:26 pm #


    Haven’t you read “The Creature From Jekyll Island”?

    The goal was to eliminate competition and to gain command and control of the nation’s financial resources. Control of money and credit by forming what was essentially a cartel, a cartel that was disingenuously named the Federal Reserve Bank.

    Inflation and unemployment must be kept in check to keep society in check. The Fed was formed by and for elites who want to keep society in check for obvious reasons.

    They wanted to stop the growing influence of small, private banks.
    They wanted a more elastic money supply to reverse the trend of private capital formation.
    And they wanted the ability to shift collapse losses from the bank owners to the taxpayers.

    Read the book and see the names of the financial titans creating this cartel; Strong, Vanderlip, Davison, Warburg, etc.

    Since its inception, the Fed has presided over the crashes of ’21 and ’29, the Great Depression, ’29-’39, recessions in ’53, ’57, ’69, ’75, ’81, Black Monday in ’87 on to 2000 and 2008.
    Not to mention a 1000% inflation.

    In 1990, ten thousand dollars was required to buy what took only 1000 dollars in 1914.

    Will it be any better under Jerome instead of Janet? Hell no.

    • Anon1970 November 24, 2017 at 5:07 pm #

      If it s any consolation to you, the inflation rate in the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Russia, Japan and others was much worse in the century after 1914. WWI and WWII ruined savers in a lot of countries.

      • malthuss November 24, 2017 at 9:17 pm #

        Save lives. Had those 2 wars not happened, 100 million lives might have been saved.

    • malthuss November 24, 2017 at 9:19 pm #


      Strong, Vanderlip, Davison, Warburg, etc.

      Rockefeller? Rothschilds?

  29. Robert White November 24, 2017 at 4:34 pm #

    The old songs are forgotten, America!

    Ringling Brothers & Barnum & Bailey Circus just ended their century long Greatest Show on Earth due to the less than mighty ‘almighty’ dollar. Yes folks, not even the Greatest Show on Earth accountants like the situation surrounding discretionary income & disposable income gains as they are no longer dispersed to the general population of snowflakes n’ deplorables. The USD currency has reached historical longevity, and stock market valuations are known points of risk systemically. The deficit is well over $21 trillion, and the unsecured liabilities are well over $300 trillion which pretty well leaves the USD pissing in the wind with respect to being capable of ever paying the piper back. Given that the taxpayer is the God-damned piper it is pretty evident that governance of the monetary system feels that the taxpayer is actually a greater fool than the dolts that TIME magazine honoured for saving the world pre-08.

    Historically, currencies only last a century, and with the advent of a dying currency, and the necessity to invent a new one we will undoubtedly see cryptocurrencies take over in the new year when the reality of the debt ceiling debacle sets in just before tax time.

    Apple Inc. is on a downfall with respect to expectations of growth going forward, and FACEBOOK has reached a thermodynamic limit with respect to growth. The Federal Reserve has to normalize banking & borrowing, but they are literally unable to raise interest rates due to the fact that the bond markets will blow up if they do. No matter what the powers-that-be do there is nowhere to go but down on retail sales, auto sales, high end RE sales, Commercial RE sales, Single Family Home sales, et cetera. Student Loans & Credit Card Subprime Loans are the glue that binds the American economy
    to the final Hegelian Death Spiral of all out Chapter 11 bankruptcy exactly one decade from the 08 Great Financial Crisis that started
    with Bear Stearns which was one of the few Bank Holding Companies that the FCC allowed to leverage 40:1 on the Fractional Reserve monopoly.

    Clearly, ‘Merica has to reinvent itself literally overnight or it will certainly go the way of SEARS Inc.


    • tucsonspur November 24, 2017 at 5:06 pm #


      • Robert White November 24, 2017 at 5:38 pm #

        Mea Culpa…….SEC.

        acronym hangover.


    • Ol' Scratch November 24, 2017 at 5:46 pm #

      Umm… a couple of problems.

      First of all, the US “debt” is not really a debt at all. It’s merely a measure of the amount of money “borrowed” at interest from the Fed, which the US government could (and should) abolish on Monday, if it so chose, since it granted it its authority in the first place.

      Likewise, the taxpayer is not “on the hook” for anything, as the US government is in no need of revenues from currency that it, itself issued in the first place. Taxes merely destroy outstanding currency balance by returning it to its issuer. They do not “PAY” for anything!

      The only TRUE measure of the destructiveness of the US “debt” is the fact that all that debt/money is being used to prop up the otherwise bankrupt balance sheets of private banks, corporations, and individuals, who have essentially off-loaded most or all of their bad debt (much of it from the 2008 meltdown) onto the Fed/US Government, and in turn, reinflated the self-same bubbles that got us into this problem in the first place.

      The problem with your narrative is that it implies that government is on a strictly pay as you go process (for the least of us, anyway), when in fact the US government, as a sovereign issuer of its own currency (and still the reserve currency for the world), can issue as many dollars as it likes to meet obligations or anything else it likes (especially in the short run), and is only limited by political willpower.

      Does this mean the US can just “roll the presses” ad infinitum with impunity? Of course not. It matters what the US spends its money on and who it gives it to, with inflation (too much money chasing too few goods) being the eternal bugaboo. Ideally money is spent/issued into the economy for productive investments; in our current circumstances, infrastructural in nature, which also includes – just as in 20th Century Great Depression days – investments in the US working class. Obviously, that is not happening, nor is it likely to happen anytime soon.

      Your admonition to for America to reinvent itself is indeed prescient, although it totally discounts the problems in doing so.

      The first problem the US faces, and the one which it will NEVER admit, nevermind deal with, is that all the current bad debt to which so much money has been committed, must be written off, so that the true value of US money and assets can be accurately assessed/valued once again. Needless to say, this would cause an immediate debt deflation spiral the world over, which because of our now fully integrated financial systems, would wipe out banks, markets, currencies, and private wealth the world over. Simply not going to happen.

      The second and arguably larger problem the US faces is that repudiating and/or writing off the current debt would prompt an immediate political crisis of confidence in the US and throughout the world, essentially revealing that the emperor has indeed been parading about with his balls hanging out for all these years.

      To all this I would only add that while the first option is indeed unthinkable, the second option is simply inevitable, and the longer it is forestalled by the machinations of imbeciles, the more horrible the outcome will be for all involved.

      • Ol' Scratch November 24, 2017 at 6:03 pm #

        To add, the idea that America can “reinvent” itself – a particularly corporate business term – is also mistaken. The currently unfolding economic crisis the world over is not a crisis of execution, it’s an utter and inevitable failure of the entire capitalist, exponential debt based system itself. That’s what’s “different this time,” and why typically half-assed measures/adjustments will not work anymore. In that respect, current American militarism is an inevitable symptom, and not merely a cause of problems in itself.

        In short: the US is now “at the end of its rope,” as capitalism and “The American Way” have officially entered their death throes as going cultural concerns.

        • Robert White November 24, 2017 at 7:53 pm #

          I was thinking that the USA could reinvent itself with Artificial Intelligence & Machine Learning. Theoretically, Capitalism has played a Macroeconomic game, but there is still the quantum economic game to be engineered and played with crypto. With a glass half full approach even old coal miners are being taught to program code. Amazon is the leading economic powerhouse in the world of capitalism today. Will AI, Machine Learning, and Quantum Behavioural Economics be enough to power a new ethos for the USA going forward? My estimation is that it is a start in the only direction that makes any sense theoretically.

          We could scrap that idea and look for another planet, but that’s not really practical from a human condition standpoint.

          It’s AI or bust IMHO.


          • malthuss November 24, 2017 at 9:23 pm #


          • beantownbill. November 24, 2017 at 9:50 pm #

            I’m not sure that AI advancement is a good thing or not, ther’re are many dangers. But I can’t envision further technological and societal advancement without some serious progress in the AI area.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2017 at 10:40 pm #

            Well that’s a very publicized program that may be good for those locals but won’t go very far. There are far too many programmers, and companies prefer foreigners for some reason. Computers will also increasingly program each other I imagine. Everything points towards a leisure civilization, but we don’t have the wit or will or wisdom to accept what the work of the ages has offered.

          • Ol' Scratch November 25, 2017 at 6:59 am #

            AI’s not going to do it either, as it totally ignores the elephant in the room: human overpopulation. The core “problem of problems” is that humanity is now deep into population overshoot, which has been aided and abetted (and to a large extent, demanded by) by now global financialized corporate industrial capitalism. And of course the root cause/sponsoring thought and belief is that of human exceptionalism, the natural outgrowth of which is American exceptionalism. Humanity has taken into its head that we are “Gods on earth” and “hold dominion over all we see,” (thanks Christianity!) as foolish a notion as any that was ever imagined. That simple belief alone in all its manifestations will be our undoing in this round of evolution.

      • elysianfield November 24, 2017 at 6:41 pm #

        As has been repeated often, the only way out of the corner we have painted/papered ourselves into is either Default or Debasement. Which method will be more politically acceptable? Default would make our friends and trading partners sad…but debasement is the long con…years before the unwashed become bothersome…won’t be my problem, sayeth the Senator, and I will not be able to see the carnage from my house.

        • Ol' Scratch November 24, 2017 at 7:37 pm #

          That’s the dream anyway, and likewise the only realistic option. But as I said, it will only prolong the day of reckoning, while at the same time ensuring that it’s all the more terrible when it finally arrives. But ultimately, they both end in default.

      • Robert White November 24, 2017 at 7:39 pm #

        I fully agree with everything you wrote, Ol’ Scratch, but Uncle Sam does indeed have his balls hanging out with BRICS, China, and the Russian Federation, plus North Korea. All countries that are not controlled by the Federal Reserve private banking system.
        The USA needs to repudiate the Federal Reserve first, and then repudiating the debt would be easy. Unfortunately, as we both know, Thermonuclear ‘Hot’ World War Three will be used to cover up all the realities you mention on a weekly basis. Once Armageddon starts we will be forced to contend with that and all that misallocated finance that is being wasted on servicing unproductive debts. And if (((we))) could manage a theoretical system reset logically through discourse we can conclude that it is doable, and that hot kinetic war is not necessary.

        You know as well as any of us that the only reason the USA is positioning for war is due to the 08 crash & GFC. Previous to 08 Bernanke was asserting that there were no reasons to expect that housing prices would fall on a national basis.

        The imbeciles are sure running the show right now I’ll tell you. Heck, even Iran has a few dogs n’ ponies in the show.


        • Ol' Scratch November 25, 2017 at 6:49 am #

          Thanks Robert. I think we’re on the same page. Funny you mention Armageddon. I was thinking about that last night after posting the above. In a very real sense, the meltdown of 2008 was and Armageddon of sorts, in that it definitively and likely permanently changed the course of world history for this go around at least. Few people realize the stark choice Obama had before him when he took office back then, and the indescribable evil unleashed when he chose Wall St over Main St. In that “Armageddon moment,” Wall St basically held a gun to the head of US policymakers and said “give us your money or we’ll destroy everything,” and even though Obama’s decision had long since been decided, (I’m sure he was groomed years in advance to be in the position to make it) the world has never been the same since.

          That banking “crisis” (likely planned to coincide with the end of the Bush bunch) had been a long time in the making (basically, since 1913), and was also almost certainly the last chance the US had to repudiate global financial capitalism and right the ship. Even most of the “bailout” had to be disguised on the back end by QE Infinity, a process that’s still unfolding 9 years later, and which is now the only option for continuing BAU remaining.

          The truth is, the US government is now officially a wholly owned subsidiary of the global banking cartel, as are all the other major western governments, which has always been the wet dream of the globalists since they first came up with the idea of central banks and lending governments their own money at interest. It’s a truth so diabolically simple that most people fail to understand it, so conditioned they are to financial servitude.

          Unfortunately, it also means that only a strong-willed authoritarian leader such as Vladimir Putin can resist it, and good luck with finding one of those who isn’t also a despot these days in the US. Trump was the best we could muster in 2016, and we’re all witnessing how that’s worked out.

          Once again, the process spelled out in simplified form:

          To summarize: using enormous amounts of other people’s money, international bankers essentially purchased their way into powerful business and government positions. With each new position, they gained control of more money. With control of more money, they gained access to more positions (so on and so forth). Through this process they secured enough monetary power to enforce their “advice” on both businesses and governments alike, expanding the reach of their hidden dynasties each step of the way. This now brings us to the Network’s two crowning achievements of 1913: the federal income tax and the Federal Reserve System. Using government as its instrument, the Network granted itself the legal authority to both create and directly confiscate the money it needs to finance its global objectives. The enormity of this topic, especially regarding the legal right to create money, requires hundreds of pages to cover properly. This chapter will provide only a short introduction. To fully understand the power derived from creating money, I highly recommend further research into the Federal Reserve System. [7] For now, let’s start with the easier of the two funding mechanisms: not money creation, but money confiscation.

          Plummer, Joseph. Tragedy and Hope 101: The Illusion of Justice, Freedom, and Democracy (p. 72). . Kindle Edition.

          Plummer, Joseph. Tragedy and Hope 101: The Illusion of Justice, Freedom, and Democracy (p. 71-72). . Kindle Edition.

          • Robert White November 25, 2017 at 1:46 pm #

            The Global Banking Cartel was taken down on March 10th at 11:00am 2008, and engineered out of existence in perpetuity in so far as the leading world experts in Macroeconomics & Quantum Economics will never be able to grasp the underlying principles of financial engineering that brought the Global Financial System to the present Zero Sum End Game we are all presently witnessing. President O’Bama was the best possible political diplomat in the entire world to have as helmsman at that juncture in the finance historiography. Moreover, you are correct to assert that the engineered take down of the Global Financial System was timed fortuitously to coincide with the last days of the outgoing George W. Bush Torture Regime. The weakest link in the government chain of command is the time between changes of administration. Clearly, the Treasury Secretary, and his staff, as well as the automatons in the SEC, all mistakenly thought that they were going to enjoy a long dreamy summer without troubling events that would disturb their planned routines. Bottom line is that the George W. Bush Torture Regime was outed, Madoff’s Ponzi was outed, TBTF was leveraged into Japan’s lost decade by Geithner, and Hank Paulson had that fucking grin wiped off his greedy face when that picture of him and Robert Wolf in their drunk-on-the-souls-of-the-poor photograph was released as part of the story. Heck, some described the establishment as reactionary in that they noticed & flinched. Certainly NATO has been awakened from the long lost Halcion days of smooth running Equilibrium Economics since 08.

            What precipitated the full on take down of the Global Financial System was the baked in the cake destruction that the Military Industrial Complex had planned going forward with the Wolfowitz Doctrine and the Council on Foreign Relations PNAC plans for a Middle East takeover of the Gulf of Oman which is analogous to Richard Fuld leveraging to the tits on McAllister Ranch in Bakersfield Californication.

            Armageddon started when Bear was murdered outright, but Bear was just one in a very long line of useful idiots from that bastion of financial illiteracy otherwise known as Wall Street that are being taken to the woodshed for their comeuppance.

            The USA must re-set the Global Financial System to be fair for all or the USA, and all the politicians, will find themselves immersed in nuclear winter as the end game.

            American ‘exceptionalism’ became suspect when the Treasury Secretary approached Congress for TARP.
            Congress does not employ experts in high finance as they are reliant upon the Treasury Secretary for guidance. Paulson & Bernanke did what they could do with the available information they had. Both are notoriously ignorant with respect to historical finance conundrums, and that’s why they lobbied for the deinstitutionalization of the Glass-Steagall Act. Today, it is up to us to restore that act of Congress even though we will face mountains of opposition from the cheap seats.


          • Ol' Scratch November 25, 2017 at 2:38 pm #

            GOD I love it when someone speaks apocalyptic to me – LOL!

            As for restoring any Acts of Congress or even employing congress in any possibly useful solutions, I think that ship has permanently sailed. The only true hope for the current system is to simply take a wrecking ball to it, shred the resulting detritus so that nothing living can possibly emerge from it, and start all over again.

  30. Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2017 at 6:05 pm #

    And always remember this: for generations Conservatives were mocked to scorn for saying the Federal Reserve was private. The Mockery, vicious and stpupid as it was is almost understandable as the betrayal was almost unimaginable: our money system was turned over the Banks – so they could make money loaning it into existence. Thus the Debt by definition can never be paid. And with this funny money, based on nothing, they can extract real labor and capital.

    A few decades ago they sheepishly began to admit it was private, no doubt for legal reasons once it all goes South.

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    • ozone November 25, 2017 at 8:09 pm #

      “…with this funny money, based on nothing, they can extract real labor and capital.”

      I’m not sure what the bitch is here. Since vlad-os has been bought, body and soul with this scrip and sits on his spreading buttocks from noon to night pecking at his keyboard to “earn” it, I see dedication and loyalty, not griping and sniveling.

      • ozone November 25, 2017 at 8:10 pm #

        (and, bam, the trackers activate… funny that)

  31. Elrond Hubbard November 24, 2017 at 7:47 pm #

    The big brains behind Canada’s good sex
    Thanks to a progressive attitude (and strong scientific funding), this country is on the leading edge of knowledge about sexuality. Zosia Bielski talks to top researchers about what they – and we – are into


    “’Sex authority’ isn’t exactly the reputation that comes to mind when you think of prim and proper Canadians.

    “But it’s now undeniable: Year in, year out, Canada dominates the field of sexuality research, leading the way in groundbreaking and urgent studies into everything from consent to female desire to sexual dysfunction to orgasm.

    “Canadians are running the show at the world’s top sexuality associations, including the International Academy of Sex Research (the University of New Brunswick’s Sandra Byers is president) and the Society for the Scientific Study of Sexuality (president Terry Humphreys hails from Trent University in Peterborough, Ont.).

    “They also head up some of the most prestigious journals in the field: Toronto’s Kenneth Zucker edits the Archives of Sexual Behavior, while Montreal’s Cynthia Graham is editor-in-chief of the Journal of Sex Research. We’ve got the Canadian Journal of Human Sexuality as well as the burgeoning Canadian Sex Research Forum fostering ‘sexual science.’

    “How did Canadians build this sexy empire? A progressive social climate, for one, but also all-important funding. Agencies such as the Canadian Institutes of Health Research support and legitimize meaningful studies into a broad spectrum of human sexuality.

    “This stands in stark contrast to the United States, where funding bodies are squeamish around research that doesn’t focus strictly on disease and prevention – the scariness of sex, in other words. For years, top researchers feared their work wouldn’t land American funding, so they migrated to Canada and built robust investigative teams here instead.

    “Which isn’t to say sex research is free of stigma north of the border. Not wanting to court gawking, discomfort or kneejerk dismissiveness (‘We’re funding what?’), Canada’s best scientists often don’t discuss their jobs at dinner parties. The Globe and Mail’s Zosia Bielski spoke with some of them about what they’re delving into now and about the vast expanses of sexual life that remain misunderstood.”

    No, no, you can thank me later. Read the article first.

    • malthuss November 24, 2017 at 9:32 pm #

      Read ‘raised as a Girl’–he and his brother were abused by the Canadian ‘sexpert’–he killed himself, his brother killed himself with drugs……baaaa on you, elrond.

      • Elrond Hubbard November 25, 2017 at 7:09 pm #

        I’m familiar with the tragic case of David Reimer. In fact, I posted about it on this site, earlier this year. Here’s the link if you don’t believe me:


        The doctor who urged David Reimer’s parents to proceed with sex reassignment surgery after the botched circumcision was named John Money. Money apparently believed, incorrectly, that sexual identity is socially determined, and that David would grow up to accept himself as a woman if he were assigned to that role. Money ruined David Reimer’s life far more conclusively than the circumcision did.

        David Reimer’s case makes one thing very clear: ordering people to be a sex that’s different from what they themselves experience doesn’t work, and is very harmful into the bargain. It didn’t work for David Reimer, who was a completely ordinary, cisgendered, heterosexual boy: he was born with a male brain and male genitalia. Likewise, it also doesn’t work for people who are transsexual, being born with brains that don’t match their genitals. The medical community today understands this very clearly, in no small part because of David Reimer’s story. That’s why bathroom laws targeting trans people are bad: they visit the same harm on trans people that John Money visited on David Reimer.

        If you have any more criticisms of my ideas about sexual identity, malthuss, you would do well to include something in your next post that shows you read and understood what I posted just above, and what I posted back in July, and acknowledge that I have some idea what I’m talking about.

        • CancelMyCard November 26, 2017 at 7:14 pm #

          There are not enough words to describe

          what a complete brain-dead idiot you truly are.

          I’ll leave it to somebody else who is more prolific

          with words to completely fulfill the story line of

          how much of an asshole you are.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2017 at 10:18 pm #

      All a profitless work of darkness. As C.S Lewis said, submission is an erotic necessity. Real submission on the part of the female – not your Massachusetts masochism.

  32. ricksinger November 24, 2017 at 8:40 pm #

    There are measures in place to keep the government funded after December 8th.



    Sen. Mitch McConnell: “Let’s put it this way. The deal is not quite as good as my counterpart thought it was,” McConnell told The New York Times Monday.

    What the critics have failed to realize, McConnell said, was that the agreement that was passed ensures that the Treasury Department can use “extraordinary measures” to keep paying the country’s bills after December 8, and that those measures will push any potential debt crisis into next year. McConnell took credit for the small but potentially important victory in the Times, saying that he intentionally wrote the bill to allow the use of extraordinary measures: “One of the advantages of being the majority leader is you control the paper.”

    The use of extraordinary measures is actually quite ordinary, with the Treasury employing them for much of 2017, starting in March, when the last debt ceiling suspension ran out.

  33. pequiste November 24, 2017 at 9:13 pm #

    From up the comments thread:

    “…every woman a Vienna, the male sex an army of Saracens pounding at the gates and demanding to be let in…” Elrond

    An imaginative, well-crafted analogy there E. Nicely done.

    Don’t forget though, John III Sobieski has something to say on the matter: a happy ending for the forces of Western Civ.

    It must be deep in the minus Centigrade temperatures plus the snow is well established for the season, in your neck of the wood Elrond with all your focus on the “sexual” this U.S. holiday weekend. From personal experience, the Canadian winter was the maximum sex season, with the exception of hockey orgasms (cue Don Cherry.) The Northern climes are famous for that.

    Nothing can ever compete for getting frisky things started than with an ultimate luxury: a sable or mink bedspread; then just add a roaring fire and maybe some nice wine. Yowzah!

    Money becomes superfluous in the grand scheme of things until the morning. And then who really cares if the Bank of Canada or the Federal Reserve deciding to prime the pump with some quantitative easing. I’m going to have a poutine instead.

    • Robert White November 24, 2017 at 11:12 pm #

      As a CANUCK that was raised by a CA I, for one, care that the CB BofC sticks to the plan of normalising rates away from the lower bound where no wiggle room exist to manage contagion if it crops up. Moreover, the Bank for International Settlements has been advising all CBs including the BofC to raise interest rates for 9 years and counting. Low rates is too easy and results in reckless speculation, money laundering, lack of trust systemically. Macroprudential policy should error on the side of caution to preserve the integrity of the edifice of banking. The Wells Fargo Business Model of corruption will prove to be a liability not worth incurring IMHO.


  34. Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2017 at 10:15 pm #

    I crushed her. Anyone want some freshly squeezed Green Albion juice? It’s too good to leave on the vine above….

    I know exactly you are Alby – your kind are legion. And you folks are always hypocrites – arguing rights when it suits you and denying the concept when it doesn’t as per your previous post:

    “Your view is bizarre. Women do not need to make any claim that they *should* have those rights. Nor do they need to be ‘given’ such rights (by whom?) – they have those rights, simply by being human beings with agency, the same as men. They may choose to exercise those rights or not, as is also self-evidently their right. Conventions are not the same as rights, although it is understandable, bearing in mind your general view of the world, that you would think the way you do on the matter.”

    Your only principle is to further the revolution against the White Man and his Civilization. Whatever aids that is good. Whatever slows that is bad. For example, consider the epidemic of Muslim rape against European women. You’re good with it because it help tear down Europe, women’s right be damned. As Sartre said long ago, Marxism is not a humanism and insofar as Feminism is grounded in Marxism (almost completely), neither is it.

    What are you? A little girl whose hand was caught in the Hypocrisy Cookie Jar.

    Alby: He broke me. And he didn’t axe permission. Now he owns me, just like any other fragile merchandise in a shoppe.

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    • GreenAlba November 25, 2017 at 4:34 pm #

      Poor Janos. Reduced to repeating your own posts for desperately sought validation. If it’s early-onset you-know-what, you have my sympathy, my dear.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 25, 2017 at 10:24 pm #

        I sought to share my joy – what could be more human than that? Of course I’m comfortable with the part of my personality that is a performer. That doesn’t mean I don’t take my ideas seriously though.

        Why are you still here?

        “And given it’s Saturday, this page is finished for me. Monday will bring a different one. I am laughing at myself for even bothering to justify anything to such a twisted human being.”

        Still trying to regain your dignity or the “juice” that I squeezed from you. Ad Hominems and insults won’t do it. Only valid arguments will do the trick. But first you have to learn the different between an argument and an eye roll.

  35. Janos Skorenzy November 24, 2017 at 10:25 pm #

    I buy books on occasion from a couple of Catholic online stores and a Muslim one. The Catholic ones offered Black Friday sales, complete with exclamation marks. The Islamic store did not. They offer regular sales, all done somehow with dignity and without exclamation marks.

    It pains me to admit they have far more a sense of themselves, far more spiritual decorum, than the Catholics stores who don’t realize they are compromising themselves and their customers by tying into “Black Friday”.

  36. janet November 24, 2017 at 11:07 pm #

    “the US Dollar will crash and so will America.” –rhys12

    No, actually a dollar collapse is not to be feared.

    Most people fear a crash of the dollar because they imagine parallels with Ancient Rome, Revolutionary-era France, Weimar Germany and Argentina. But none of those examples are similar to the modern-day U.S. economy.

    Besides, the experience of France, Germany, Italy, and Argentina illustrate that currency collapse does not destroy a nation or its people. The fear and use of apocalyptic language here on CFN is not justified by historical example.

    The repeated expression of irrational fear of a “crash” is not justified. Countries continue to exist and rebound from crashes. France, Germany, Italy, and Argentina are the proof.

  37. Janos Skorenzy November 25, 2017 at 12:51 am #

    The most beautiful women always have a visible “line” in the center of their back, exactly where the spine is though not seen, bifurcating their backs like halves of a cut peach.

    I imagine this aesthetic could apply to men as well. People with flat, unbifurcated backs are disgusting. Even worse when you can see the spine sticking out of such a flat back. I saw this today and I’m trying to recover.

    • tucsonspur November 25, 2017 at 2:25 am #

      Brace yourself, peek at your own risk. I say peek as a full sudden look may set you back on your heels.


      • Janos Skorenzy November 25, 2017 at 1:57 pm #

        In Star Trek conventions in New Jersey, there are many large Jewish and Italian women, 200-300 pounds, who have taught themselves to speak Klingon. It’s a complete way of life. They haven’t seen their spines in decades….

  38. tucsonspur November 25, 2017 at 2:13 am #

    From above, on the creation of the Fed.

    Strong, Vanderlip, Davison, Warburg.

    Strong was head of J. P. Morgan’s Bankers Trust Company.
    Davison was senior partner of the J. P. Morgan Company

    Vanderlip was president of the National City Bank of New York, and represented William Rockefeller and Kuhn, Loeb & Company.

    Warburg was a partner in Kuhn, Loeb & Company and represented the Rothschild banking dynasty in England and France. His brother Max led the Warburg banking group in Germany and the Netherlands.

    Nelson Aldrich, who was also present, was Republican whip in the Senate at the time, Chairman of the National Monetary Commission and father in law to John D. Rockefeller, Jr.

    A. Andrew was also there, as Assistant Secretary of the Treasury.

    It is said that these men who created the Fed represented about 25% of the entire world’s wealth.

  39. FincaInTheMountains November 25, 2017 at 7:29 am #

    Union Square’s Rumors

    The Union Square’s conspirological rumors about the landing of the US Marine Corps on the roof of the CIA headquarters in Langley are starting in some distorted form, but to be confirmed. Judge for yourself:

    I was informed by my intelligence assets from Union Square that Trump was sending his family to New York, since a week ago the situation was so acute that he could no longer trust the Secret Service protection of the White House, and in New York, under the protection of his personal guard in his private building, they were more secure than in the White House, in Washington.

    And in the previous post I presented the articles in which the information about the evacuation is confirmed, but the reason given was the pardon of the turkey and the beauty of Trump’s daughters, who forced the cameras to turn away from the turkey and the pardoning president.

    As a person who is closely following American politics, I will tell you in secret that this is a typical Trump’s humor just like the wrap-battle with Kim Jong-un: “Old-thick-short”.

    The funniest thing is that the media has become so decomposed that it continues to take these cursing battles seriously.

    Similarly, the information that part of the US president’s protection team has been replaced in connection with their visit to the brothel in Vietnam undoubtedly confirms the conspiracy rumors that Trump no longer trusts the Secret Service in connection with attempt to assassinate him last weekend that I heard about a week ago from the same Union Square sources.


    At the same time I heard there that Soviet troops were ordered to shoot down American planes in Syria, and voila: American pilots were warned that the Soviets are flying unsafe


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    • Ol' Scratch November 25, 2017 at 7:48 am #

      My first blush is to discount assassination rumors on the ground that it would simply be unnecessary given Trump’s current trajectory and the fact that it would roil the sacred financial markets for no good reason. But if a financial meltdown is being planned anyway, which I believe it is, an assassination has many benefits.

      First of all, it would enable yet another expansion of the national security state, which would likely even put the aftermath of 9-11 to shame, and it would also no doubt be blamed on Russian sympathizers or even the Russians themselves, and enable the long sought after nuclear showdown that DC has long been itching for. It could even enable a false-flag US nuclear attack on its own soil (mark my words, it’s coming!) just to enhance the dramatic effect and to get rid of a few million useless breathers.

      Either way, Trump is largely a show pony at this stage, who is only being propped up for the distraction effect. Nothing good has or will come from his presidency, other than the total discrediting of his faux “populism,” an idea so preposterous that only Americans could have ever been stupid enough to believe it.

      • FincaInTheMountains November 25, 2017 at 9:17 am #

        Trump definitely is a serious player, and NOT a sitting turkey [duck].

        • K-Dog November 25, 2017 at 10:30 am #

          Trump is not a sitting turkey. Trump is more like a headless chicken which stumbles about while the stem of his chopped neck squirts blood everywhere.

          Donald J. Trump

          Why would Kim Jong-un insult me by calling me “old,” when I would NEVER call him “short and fat?” Oh well, I try so hard to be his friend – and maybe someday that will happen!

          • FincaInTheMountains November 25, 2017 at 11:02 am #

            Trump is more like a headless chicken which stumbles about while the stem of his chopped neck squirts blood everywhere

            He did “stumble” into the White House, didn’t he? And now he’ll preside over the Great American November Revolution.

      • Robert White November 26, 2017 at 1:53 pm #

        The entirety of the American population is worried sick about their collective future. Herd behaviour tends to follow whatever leadership is in place because of the instinct to survive. Given the 2016 federal election choices, and the lost decade under OBama, the population decided to throw caution to the wind in hopes of some semblance of directional change. Faux populism was the vector of momentum that delivered the change for the population writ large. Do Americans believe the rhetoric espoused by the key players, or do they believe that taking any sort of chance against the status quo might yield more fruitful gains going forward?

        People are stupid to a point, but the voting public tends to be educated somewhat, and just like traders the voting public places bets based on whatever information is at hand. Individually, I think even the average human being is likely pretty smart whereas with herd behaviour we continually find instances where they are not. Can we blame the MSM and advertisers for the 2016 election results given the level of intelligence displayed by them during the run up to the vote?

        As one that is indoctrinated in terms of the Social Sciences I would prefer to think of human beings as being very smart and capable beings given the right amount of information at hand to make decisions with. Yes, human beings can be incredibly ignorant and uneducated. They can also surprise you if given a chance.


  40. K-Dog November 25, 2017 at 10:22 am #

    Same old song, just a drop of water
    In an endless sea
    All we do crumbles to the ground
    Though we refuse to see

    Dust in the wind
    All we are is dust in the wind

    Oh, ho, ho

  41. capt spaulding November 25, 2017 at 10:24 am #

    Just heard that Charles Manson died. That’s just great, now who’s gonna carve my turkey next year? I wonder if David Berkowitz is doing anything?

    • K-Dog November 25, 2017 at 10:57 am #

      The sixties were murdered along with five people by Charlie working out his mommy/daddy issues. Charlie would have gotten his jollies by making you carve something up all right but it would not have been a turkey.

      Good Charlie is gone. Sad Charlie was forced to go irrevocably and inexorably bad from day one. Good Charlie was locked up where he could do no more harm until the day he died. Charlie would certainly have caused more mayhem given the chance.

      • capt spaulding November 25, 2017 at 11:08 am #

        It was just a joke, K, don’t get all Republican on me now. (joke).

      • elysianfield November 25, 2017 at 11:30 am #

        “Charlie would certainly have caused more mayhem given the chance.”

        Absolutely. Manson was, after incarceration, studied extensively by a number of professionals in the field of abnormal psychology, batteries of tests conducted, and a consensus reached…they said he was, and this is a direct quote from the studies’ executive summary, “fucking nuts”…(pardon the psychobabble).

        • Janos Skorenzy November 25, 2017 at 1:55 pm #


          So has the FBI ruled. Charlie was rational compared to this.

        • K-Dog November 26, 2017 at 11:36 am #

          I suspect he did not really care if the five victims lived or died. What Charlie cared about was making people do things. He was getting his jollies by manipulating people and the more dastardly and outrageous the deeds the more his trigger was getting tripped. He probably even managed to convince a number of professionals in the field of abnormal psychology that he was “fucking nuts”. As that is what turned Charlie on, he never would have stopped being the zero he was.

  42. volodya November 25, 2017 at 10:53 am #

    Do you own stocks and bonds? Mutual funds? Do you have money in your savings account? Some of us do but the top one percent have got a ludicrously disproportionate share.

    So it’s astounding that these national bizness elites are doing everything in their power to undermine their fortunes. It’s like JHK sez, this incontinent money printing will destroy the USD.

    But, for now, rich Chinese – communists and non-communists alike – are trying like hell to get their personal loot out of China.

    The same with rich Russians, with London as a favored destination, the pound sterling being a time-tested store of wealth.

    And the Euro looked relatively safe, so places like Cyprus got fat for a while on oligarchs trying to safeguard their money from the predations of their own government.

    But the Pound and Euro are not the USD. For the time being the US is seen as the healthiest horse in the glue factory. But no currency can outrun reality and no matter how much the American Right closes its eyes to the national debt and no matter how much the Left insists there’s such a thing as a free lunch, there’s no such thing as a free lunch and repudiation is repudiation no matter if it’s done by explicit default or currency debasement.

    To those of us who have been around for a while, it’s evident that the US is moribund. It’s not just the lunacy of people in the Eccles Building. You can see madness engulfing the entire US in its governance, in the craziness of its business and financial elites, in its foreign policy, in daily living habits of ordinary people.

    You can say well, there’s still time to turn things around. But trajectories of societies are unpredictable. You don’t know what insanity will engulf what political space and when. Like Donald Trump, he’s the Joker and he’s been elected mayor of Gotham.

    • FincaInTheMountains November 25, 2017 at 11:09 am #

      Donald Trump is the King Arthur who finally discovered his Excalibur.

      Not only History is made by the individuals, individuals are being made by the History.

      • Ol' Scratch November 25, 2017 at 2:21 pm #

        Caribbean rum, ganja, or possibly both? No doubt your Russian experiences have contributed to your current madness as well.

        • FincaInTheMountains November 25, 2017 at 3:06 pm #

          I’ve been sober as a judge lately (or a clam? – i like judge better)

          • Ol' Scratch November 25, 2017 at 3:45 pm #

            Well then, you should probably start!

  43. FincaInTheMountains November 25, 2017 at 11:14 am #

    Did anybody notice I used “Soviet troops”, not “Russian troops”? I confess, I did it on purpose to provoke a little outrage.

    • elysianfield November 25, 2017 at 11:31 am #

      We just thought it was wishful thinking….

      • FincaInTheMountains November 25, 2017 at 11:53 am #

        I guess it was…on the part of the Fourth Reich.

  44. tucsonspur November 25, 2017 at 2:01 pm #

    Above I posted that it would take a worker 800 years at 50k per year to equal Goodell’s pay at 40 million per year.

    For another sense of scale, let’s do a billionaire, just one billion.
    It would take the worker at 50k per year 20,000 years to reach one billion.

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    • Ol' Scratch November 26, 2017 at 7:25 am #

      And yet, where is all that useless money parked? In speculative “investments” in financial instruments of dubious value – the virtual casino economy. In that sense, working class Americans’ preoccupation with actual casinos can be viewed as perhaps the one true manifestation of trickle down economics, in that they too have come to recognize that actually “working for a living” (what a quaint notion!) is a fool’s errand these days.

      So once again, the core belief in “exceptionalism” rears its ugly head. Americans, as a culture, have come to believe that actually working for a living (perish the thought!) is what those ugly “other” (read: poor) people do. A truly impoverished and impoverishing belief, if there ever was one.

      • CancelMyCard November 26, 2017 at 9:10 pm #

        Have you ever been poor?

        Really, really poor?

        Can you describe for us your experience at being poor?

  45. tucsonspur November 25, 2017 at 2:29 pm #

    With all this talk about financial catastrophe, one thing has been left out.

    It will corral everything but the extremely catastrophic.

    What is it?

    ICE-NINE! people, ICE-NINE!

  46. Janos Skorenzy November 25, 2017 at 3:12 pm #

    Black Seattle Councilman is against power washing feces of sidewalks – it might bring back traumatic memories of Blacks being hosed during the Civil Right era. By that logic, shouldn’t fire fighting be banned too? Or does this man identify himself and his race with feces?


    • pequiste November 25, 2017 at 4:45 pm #

      I’m sorry Janos, but I am compelled to answer your question with a question:

      No shit?

      Now I hate myself. Again.

    • K-Dog November 26, 2017 at 11:22 am #

      We don’t have feces on sidewalks. If I have to shit I do it in the grass.

      Larry Gossett is a King County Councilman not a Seattle. Councilman.The County is twice the size of Rhode Island and Seattle is only a small part of the county.

      It is however a small world: I know Melba.

      Melba Ayco Recognized for Bringing “Rhythm to the Region”
      Longtime director of Northwest Tap Connection receives MLK Medal of Distinguished Service


      You can see Larry giving Melba an award.

      For fun try and figure out what ethnicity ‘Ayco’ is. I will give you a hint. It is not black. I obviously know the right answer.

      As my comment has personal info I expect our trolls will try and get a big rise out of me via some insult. That is not going to happen.

      We don’t have feces on the sidewalks but it does make more sense to use a pooper-scooper and only wash away remnants. Why the hell a county work crew would need permission to spray water I don’t know. They do it all the time. Why the hell the county would be cleaning city streets with county work crews I also have no idea. Though I pay enough to King County in taxes that they should wash my sidewalk. No reason unless http://www.pacificpundit.com is full of shit.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 26, 2017 at 4:20 pm #

        Samoan? Samoans are also very large and violent with high crime rates. One of the brothers reported that Anchorage has a Samoan Gang problem. Black gangs too. Oh Modernity! Oh Brave New World that has such people in it!

        Pacific Pundit is Black and he’s saying that Larry is weird when it comes to shit. I noticed you didn’t touch this, the point of the post, with a ten foot pole.

        • CancelMyCard November 26, 2017 at 9:15 pm #

          Janos had another brain fart.

          But, that happens to him about every 60 minutes, so

          everything is right on schedule.

  47. FincaInTheMountains November 25, 2017 at 3:41 pm #

    The fact that Putin managed to bring Iran and Turkey together, that is, the Great Porte and Great Persia, is so HUGE that it is impossible to understand its significance. But the first thing that catches your eye is that Putin brought together Sunnites and Shiites. As they say, no comments are necessary.

    The Islamic Ummah was split long time ago, but nothing like the religious wars between the Catholics and Protestants, happened in the Muslim World before the 21st century.

    And the main merit in this belongs to the works of the great Muslim theologian Al-Ghazali, who, having influenced Maimonides and Thomas Aquinas, played an outstanding role in the restoration of the Christian civilization of Europe after its crash as a result of the Albigensian and the Fourth Crusades.

    The Islamic state, which rejected the heritage of Al Ghazali, in this sense is more like Germany in the 16th century, and yesterday’s terrorist attack on the Sinai peninsula once again reminded about this.

    And who has worked the most to deepen the schism between Sunni and Shia?

    Correct! The British Empire in the face of the East India Company, which in Oman, that was turned into an English naval base, slipped Wahhabism to the young king of Saudi Arabia specifically to destroy the Ottoman Empire, which in a century was successfully concluded by Lawrence of Arabia.

    And if you remember that Putin, recently declared a Caliph by Russian Muslims, is the anointed Orthodox Sovereign, then the events in Saudi Arabia after the visit of the Saudi prince to Moscow can not but be related to this …..

    And who was the most active opponent of Brexit on the eve of the referendum?

    Correct! Theresa May, who as a “reward” was appointed to implement Brexit in the most hard version.

    And where did she say her anti-Putin speech? At the dinner at the Lord Mayor of London – not to be confused with the mayor of London, who is some sort of Pakistani.

    The Lord Mayor is the elected head of state under the title “The City of London”, which in fact is still part of the Roman Empire and to Britain has about the same relationship as Canada or Australia.

    In my opinion, even a much lesser relationship than Canada or Australia. In any case, the King of England even can’t enter the territory of The City of London without the permission of the Lord Mayor of London. That is, Theresa May did not speak as Prime Minister of Great Britain, but as a member of a certain corporation and a convinced opponent of Brexit, as well as a citizen of European Union = the Fourth Reich of Angela Merkel.

    And WADA is a kilometer away from Union Square, where I draw my rumors that WADA is governed from the City of London, and lawlessness in Olympic sports is the ancient Chinese tactic of “a thousand cuts”, which is only natural, since The City of London is essentially the headquarters of the East India Company, which organized opium wars in China.


    • akmofo November 25, 2017 at 4:20 pm #

      Yes, only there’s some serious need for revision in your counting. The US predates Hitler’s “3rd Reich”. Same for the Soviets. All are spawned scripted fractals of the same. ROME.

      • FincaInTheMountains November 25, 2017 at 4:29 pm #

        The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation:

        The First Reich – The Holy Roman Empire, from the 10th century and ending in the 19th century. It spanned the territories that Charlemagne conquered.

        The Second Reich – The German Empire, from 1871 to 1918, where Otto von Bismark united all of Germany, ending with the defeat of Germany after WWI and the birth of the Weimar Republic.

        The Third Reich – Hitler’s Nazi Germany, from 1933 to 1945. Hitler was obviously hoping to recreate the glory (and territories) of the Holy Roman Empire, and chose the name to reflect it.

        The Fourth Reich – the EU in its current form.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 25, 2017 at 4:55 pm #

          According to Orthodoxy, Russia is the Third Rome. Only Rome, be it Three or be it Four, holds backs Iniquity and the Rise of the Antichrist.

          • FincaInTheMountains November 25, 2017 at 7:13 pm #

            According to Orthodoxy, Russia is the Third Rome and there will be NO fourth.

            The entity that holds back the Rise of the Antichrist is called Katechon


        • akmofo November 25, 2017 at 5:06 pm #

          So the Anglo-Saxons don’t count as Germans? How about the Old Norse of Novgorod and Kiev? How about when their Royalty all later interbred?

          • FincaInTheMountains November 25, 2017 at 7:15 pm #

            Of course not.

          • akmofo November 25, 2017 at 9:29 pm #

            Ok then, Putin is not Russia. And neither was that Jesuit priest with the moustache and funny Georgian accent.

    • akmofo November 25, 2017 at 4:24 pm #

      Mercy Mercy Me

    • akmofo November 26, 2017 at 10:24 am #

      Positive news from Syria

      Via: Canal 7

      Assad to Netanyahu: Ready to discuss Golan demilitarization

      During his visit to Sochi last week, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad conveyed to Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu a message that Damascus was ready to discuss the disarmament of the Golan Heights up to 40 kilometers from the separation line, and to examine autonomy for the Kurds and Druze in the country as part of a comprehensive agreement that would leave the current Syrian regime in power, according to the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jarida as reported by Nana 10 news.

      According to the report, a Western source also told the newspaper that in Putin’s telephone conversation with Netanyahu after the meeting, the latter assured his Russian counterpart that he was ready to discuss Assad’s demands with the Israeli security institutions. However, he stressed the necessity of removing Hezbollah and Iran from Syria.

      Putin, Assad, Russian DM & Chief of General Staff attend meeting in Sochi, Russia

      The source also said that a senior Israeli official recently said that Israel is certain that Assad is to be the last Alawi president in Syria. The source added that he expects the Syrian crisis to increase after the ISIS defeat, especially if “Tehran continues to play with fire”, noting the Iranian presence in southern Syria, and that Israel has stressed that it will attack Iranian installations and activities within 40 kilometers of the Golan Heights.

      According to the source, the official also said that “Syria will not be the same again as it was in the past, and it is determined to be a federal or confederate state.” In the meantime, the source added that according to the senior official, Lebanon would not be immune to such a move, and the new map of the region would reflect this.

  48. .Captain America. November 25, 2017 at 7:24 pm #


    In the old republic, the labeling of the cabal of Party Central miscreants in the U.S. Congress as “lawmakers” is doublespeak for “lawbreakers”.

    “War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength”……and “Lawmaker is Lawbreaker”.

    …..and citizens are simultaneously treated to the successful techniques outlined in “1984” and “Brave New World”, courtesy of the power and methods conferred by the U.S. Congress to the unelected Deep State, Shadow Government, and corrupt corporate lobbyists.

    …..and remarkably, the successful “dumbing down” of the electorate has produced a majority of members incapable of comprehension, in the old republic, ……like lobsters sensing the warming of the water in their kettle.


    • pequiste November 25, 2017 at 9:02 pm #

      It shall be Room 101 for you dear Captain (and probably the rest of the CFN with the exception of Janet/WPA/Asoka/Newquist….:


      My kind regards to O’Brien.

  49. malthuss November 25, 2017 at 10:11 pm #

    A Black, female, elected democrat stole 800k and begs for compassion.

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    • pequiste November 26, 2017 at 6:49 am #

      Indict, prosecute, and if convicted, a nice long sentence in a deep coal mine might prove corrective and instructive.

    • akmofo November 26, 2017 at 7:55 am #

      How is she different than any other politician, other than her skin colour? The only real difference is the poor level of “professionalism” in her theft. What’s interesting is that in racist USA, the thieving white whales are given a free pass and a blind eye by the rest of the gov mafia and the idiots that follow the “news”. These billion dollar thieving white whales can run for President, can openly flaunt their treason, mass thieving, mass rape, mass murder, child trafficking and pedophilia, and other despicable criminality, but some lowly black poorly mimicking the thieving all around her is set up to be crucified because she’s black. Tell me that’s not racism.

      • elysianfield November 26, 2017 at 10:34 am #

        It is not racism. What it offers, however, is the reason the jails are full of blacks…

        “….some lowly black poorly mimicking the thieving all around her…”

        Did you think the preponderance of blacks in prison populations exist for reasons other than criminality and base stupidity?

        You’ve stumbled upon a bit of truth that is inconvenient…we will remember….

        • akmofo November 26, 2017 at 11:24 am #

          It’s selective law enforcement.

          Really what it is, is systemic lawlessness. This is exactly the kind of moral corruption that leads to systemic societal failure.

          I guarantee you that any honest prosecutor could put EVERY politician in Washington in jail. Not just the politicians, but their family members, their friends, all the gov mafia agencies and their contractors, and all their management people. It wouldn’t take much law enforcement honesty for the preponderance of the US prison population to be white. And I haven’t even started with the “regular” scamming white population, from mechanics, to doctors, to farmers, and practically every fscking listed corporation.

          • elysianfield November 26, 2017 at 4:07 pm #

            Systemic lawlessness? Maybe, but certainly a system-wide lack of honesty.

            At the level you originally suggested, honesty in law enforcement, at the street level, is probably more in line with what you might consider proper…I can guarantee that white lawbreakers were treated no differently than their dusky brothers…at least by myself and all I was aware of on the Department.

            I hope you are not one of those who consider a majority of black prisoners incarcerated for minor, non-violent crimes like marijuana. What you do not see are lifetimes of crime chronicled in rap sheets. Jamal is arrested for possession and given 3 years…you do not factor is his arrest sheet that can contain dozens of arrests and convictions.

            What? Prior arrests and bad acting should not factor in sentencing? Nigga, please!

          • Janos Skorenzy November 26, 2017 at 4:14 pm #

            When Hispanics commit crimes, they are listed as White to artificially drive up our crime stats. Likewise, you are doing the same thing by calling all Jewish crime and bad behavior “White”.

            Arabs are also called White, so should increase our crime levels as well. And again, they’ll be their own group for special benefits though, just the Hispanics.

          • akmofo November 26, 2017 at 5:09 pm #

            How many whites sit in jail for snorting coke? You know and I know that you could put half of Miami, New York, Philadelphia, and LA in jail just on that, including the policemen, the prosecutors, the bimbo law clerks, and the Judges. We’re very selective what we choose to see.

          • elysianfield November 26, 2017 at 11:32 pm #

            No…we are not selective. The Whites just don’t seem to be out on the street carrying. No one was given a break with felony drug possession. Placing yourself in a position to be on viewed and arrested, like a street corner, while using fits your definition of poorly mimicking…. It is not that we are selective in what we see…it is that those crimes were committed where we cannot see.

            Lawyers and Judges caught carrying? THANK YOU SWEET JESUS! You just made our day.

            A buddy of mine on the department…same recruit class, was fired, arrested and convicted of felony marijuana possession…vice raided his bachelor pad, and found several marijuana seeds in his vacuum cleaner…AMF…we received no quarter, nor gave none.

          • akmofo November 27, 2017 at 7:52 am #

            Well, inspector, you don’t get around much. Here’s a tip, follow the pretty white pussy driving the Benz and ask the doorman what unit she’s at and for how long. Or, when you see that young black male on the street or the club, ask him who his white clients and his white suppliers are. They may be your boss. Will you give quarter then?

          • akmofo November 27, 2017 at 8:25 am #

            ..felony marijuana possession..

            And yet the US gov carries a patent on its medicinal use, grows it in its facilities and distributes it to those it deems worthy. The breathtaking dishonesty and the glee destroying people’s lives, is the hallmark of a fascistic society. And that’s basically where we’re at with the US, and why people are most depressed. People see this dishonest fascistic shit everyday, no matter how much the media tries to deflect from it, and it destroys their soul to live in such an environment.

  50. 100th Avatar November 26, 2017 at 10:19 am #

    “Meanwhile, down in the rococo dining room of Mar a Lago..”

    As another old song goes:

    Let’s go downtown and watch the modern kids
    Let’s go downtown and talk to the modern kids
    They will eat right out of your hand
    Using great big words that they don’t understand
    They sing
    They build it up just to burn it back down
    They build it up just to burn it back down
    The wind is blowing all the ashes around
    Oh my dear God what is that horrible song?
    They’ll sing

    • 100th Avatar November 26, 2017 at 10:23 am #

      With its enigmatically alienated lyrics, Arcade Fire’s Rococo might easily pass as one of the post-punk songs written by the musician in Jonathan Franzen’s Freedom. In fact, the rococo came under attack for its supposed emptiness and apolitical self-indulgence in 18th-century France. Philosophical critic Denis Diderot complained of the shallowness of rococo art and championed a new kind of serious, high-minded painting. Diderot’s ideal, argues the critic and historian Michael Fried in his book Absorption and Theatricality, was an art that acted as if it had no observer – in other words, that it should be nothing like the self-conscious and “theatrical” performances of the rococo. I suppose Arcade Fire to be saying something similar. Arcade Fire’s Rococo is a stone cast at a fragile and frivolous age where people, as the song says, “build it up just to burn it back down”.

      Apolitical self-indulgence indeed

  51. 99 cent nation November 26, 2017 at 11:05 am #

    “the Golden Golem of Greatness.” That is good. Says it all

  52. FincaInTheMountains November 26, 2017 at 3:23 pm #

    The Battle of Montgomery

    Montgomery is the capital of Alabama, where the battle of the World Projects is now taking place. Senator from Alabama Jeff Sessions became the US Attorney General and there are now extraordinary elections to the Senate, in which according to polls the Republican candidate, former State Supreme Justice Roy Moore, is winning.

    This candidate has many remarkable qualities, the most important of which is uncompromising, in particular uncompromising in religious matters and the related issue of the rights of sexual minorities.

    Because of this quality, he was twice elected Chief Justice of the State and twice dismissed from this post “for neglect of the US Constitution” because of the recently guaranteed gay rights to contract marriage, in the future the right to a wedding in the church.

    In the extraordinary elections of 2017, his uncompromising was manifested in the fact that during the Republican primaries Roy Moore was supported by the former chief ideologist of Trump Steve Bannon, and he won this primaries despite the fact that Trump was threatened with impeachment not only to dismiss Bannon, but also to support during the primaries of Roy Moore’s rival establishment candidate Luther Strange.

    And now his opponent is the Democratic nominee Doug Jones, for whose victory the whole electoral arsenal of Hillary Clinton was involved, including her favorite sexual harassment tools, and Roy Moore was so neat that for his accusation they had to drag memoirs of some older women, about how forty years ago, Roy Moore allegedly forcibly kissed them.

    And then Trump showed his seemingly suppressed uncompromising: he did not support Roy Moore, which in the circumstances would be extremely dangerous, but he attacked Hillary’s candidate Doug Jones, which is almost the same.

    And the media today could not talk about anything else, because everything was built on the fact that Trump will give in as everybody else did and will demand the removal of Roy Moore from the elections.

    And he did not give in, and if Roy Moore will win the elections in spite of everything, it would mean that all these polls showing Trump’s loss of support for voters are pure crap, and the groans of Tramp’s enemies that Trump’s supporters continue to support him, spoil their picture on the TV from the word at all.

    And rumors about the arrest of Hillary Clinton’s supporters, rife with rumors about the US Marine Corps landing on the CIA building in Langley, will remain rumors until they influence the elections.

    And they will influence the elections contrary to the theory of Nanai boys and the Domino principle will work in the opposite direction.

  53. pequiste November 26, 2017 at 4:33 pm #

    How nice that CONgressman CONyers of Michigan has respectfully removed himself from the House Judiciary Committee.

    It was only because he utilized 27K of taxpayers money to pay off a female subordinate resulting from his predatory sexual antics. What else I wonder? After 53 years at the trough, he has got to have a fine stash of cash somewhere and some other hushed-up peccadilloes. Cayman Islands maybe?

    Cue an old song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXE_n2q08Yw

    Now you know why the Federal Reserve, under the presumptive new chairman, Mr. Powell, will continue to gleefully print away; the CONgress will be happy to make lavish appropriations and Prez. Trump will play some moar golf on his golf courses while excoriating college basketball at’leets, CNN and the Beloved Pudgy Leader of Best Korea.

    It ain’t their money they are playing with.

    When dumpster diving becomes the national pastime – a la Venezuela – then perhaps the light bulb, if there is any electricity (ask your Puerto Rican friends about that amigos,) will come on for the vast majority of ‘Muricans. Until such time , tomorrow is Cyber Monday with only 28 shopping days left until “That (offensive, un-named, rayciss, sexist, religion-centric) Holiday!”

    • Elrond Hubbard November 26, 2017 at 6:49 pm #

      This is about more than Conyers. His name is front-and-center because this happened to come to light as part of the current everything-must-go Charlie Foxtrot house cleaning of sexual predation and general crumminess that got set off with the Harvey Weinstein revelations.

      Here’s an interesting link about it:


      The way that Congress currently deals with sexual harassment allegations was pretty much designed to shield members of Congress against any likelihood of genuine consequences for their actions. Hilariously, the provisions were set up by a 1995 law called… brace yourselves… the Congressional Accountability Act. Both Republicans and Democrats have made use of this very special kind of ‘accountability’. Here’s a year-by-year breakdown of the payouts made, at US taxpayer expense, to silence the victims:


      What’s also worth noting is that the Congress that passed this enabling-sexual-harassment-by-legislators act in 1995 was the GOP majority that took the House in the 1994 election. These same people pursued a presidential sex scandal to the point of impeachment while crafting a law to cover their own asses (and their Democratic colleagues got the benefit as well).

      Wow, American politics is corrupt. Just… wow.

  54. .Captain America. November 26, 2017 at 6:52 pm #

    5-10% chance humanity survives AI enabled robots.
    – Elon Musk, November 23, 2017.



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  55. BackRowHeckler November 26, 2017 at 7:27 pm #

    Nice Hemingway quote, Jim. I’m glad you worked that in.

    Speaking of money, one of the nephews just bought $1 million in Venezuelan currency — for $300 American. It came in a big crate. He’s also deep into Bitcoin and is convinced he will be filthy rich by early next spring and will no longer have to work.

    I remain skeptical.


  56. BackRowHeckler November 26, 2017 at 8:03 pm #

    Maybe someone here in the CFNation can explain Bitcoin.

    I can’t figure out where the value comes from.


    • akmofo November 26, 2017 at 8:22 pm #

      Its value lies is in that quantum computing hasn’t yet advanced enough to make its algorithm obsolete (and pretty much all encrypted computing obsolete).

    • elysianfield November 26, 2017 at 11:36 pm #

      The value lies in someone on the Internets saying “trust me”.

      • pequiste November 27, 2017 at 9:05 am #

        I love concision.

    • TPTB-USA November 28, 2017 at 12:41 pm #

      Perhaps a significant percent of the value of a Bitcoin is derived from its escape mechanism functionality?

      e.g. A Chinese family wanting to send money to a relative in the US to start a business, or a Venezuelan anticipating a currency devaluation and wanting to get out of the Venezuelan Bolívar.

  57. BackRowHeckler November 27, 2017 at 4:20 am #

    A lot happening here over the Thanksgiving Day long weekend, arson fires mostly. In fact people burned out in every city practically. And in the Meriden-Waterbury (former) industrial corridor Hondurans and Haitians had some sort of beef that naturally led to bloodshed; the two Haitians I believe shot, stabbed and left for dead in an overturned car. I think it was the Haitians, but it might’ve been the guys from Honduras.

    That’s how we now celebrate the uniquely American holiday here in the Land of Steady Habits.


  58. FincaInTheMountains November 27, 2017 at 5:45 am #

    Maybe someone here in the CFNation can explain Bitcoin == brh

    Satoshi Nakamoto is the Jesus Christ of the digital reality. Satoshi with his elegant code of blockchain/bitcoin brought the digital Truth into our world of Deception.

    The Truth of the blockchain/bitcoin is one for all, infinitely verified by everyone from the first transaction in the distant past and up to this very moment, without the ability to forge it, as tens of millions of copies of it and its entire history are recorded on the computers of users of the entire community.

    The technology blockchain/bitcoin accomplished the impossible:

    Total strangers completely trust each other’s money and resources using blockchain technology and do so without paying taxes, fees and commissions, using their own and their community resources with a 99.999% guarantee.

    Bitcoin and other crypto-currencies is just one of thousands of possible applications to use this blockbuster platform, and besides it’s not the most important one.

    Exchanges, Investment Banks, Central Banks, whole industries related to the sale and registration of real estate, cars and other property, documents, securities, ratings, voting of citizens are all morally obsolete as the technology of the blockchain will do it for free and a million times faster and a thousand times safer.

    The whole world around you is morally obsolete and the already successfully working model of blockchain/bitcoin confirms this every day and every second.

    • pequiste November 27, 2017 at 9:03 am #

      So moral and wonderful that way back in February 2014, a certain Bitcoin exchange known as Mt Gox had the unfortunate experience of having been made victim of a heist or the just plain darned bad luck with the extraordinary disappearance of 850,000 bitcoins valued at $450 million, along with $27 million in cash. 200,000 of the Bitcoin were eventually recovered however, the location of the remaining 650,000 is still unknown.

      And to that conundrum, a few weeks ago a “digital wallet” “lost” Ethereum worth $300 million paper U.S. dollars:


      The dog ate it?

      Blockchain may be a computer innovation as excellent as the LED lightbulb, but until such time that theft and losses are reduced to zero it is all just another attempt to separate suckers from their dough.

      Bitcoin $9,000! Tulip bulbs got nothing on this scam.

  59. Bro Jobe November 27, 2017 at 6:34 am #

    It’s all fine and good with the National Debt until it is not any longer. That will be the thing to bring down our nation and the world’s economy with it, though the latter will recover.

    We’ll be mired in hyperinflation and decay.

    The solution would have been simple: cutting all Federal agencies’ spending by a set % to balance the books, keep taxes relatively high, and letting their directors come up with priorities.

    But that would actually have made sense.

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    • TPTB-USA November 27, 2017 at 9:04 am #

      “We’ll be mired in hyperinflation and decay.”

      Any chance you see deflation in non-essentials?


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