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Tapering, Exiting, or Just Punting?

O h, that sound you hear this morning is the distant roar of European equity markets puking after the latest round of phony bank “stress tests” — another exercise in pretend by financial authorities who understand, at least, the bottomless credulity of the news media and the complete mystification of the general public in monetary matters. I rather expect that roar to grow Niagara-like as US markets catch the urge to upchuck violently. Problem is, unlike Ebola victims, they can’t be quarantined.

The end of the “taper” is upon us like the night of the hunter, conveniently just a week before the US election. If the Federal Reserve is politicized, the indoctrination must have been conducted by the Three Stooges. America’s central bank never did explain the difference between tapering and exiting their purchases of US treasury paper. I guess that’s because it has other interventionary tricks up its sleeves. Three-card Monte with reverse repos… ventures into direct stock purchases… the setting up of new Maiden Lane type companies for scarfing up securities with that piquant dead carp aroma. Who knows what’s next? It’s amazing what you can do with money in a desperate polity with a few dozen lawyers.

Of course, there is the solemn matter as to what happens now to the regularly issued treasury bonds and bills. Do they just sit in an accordian file on Jack Lew’s desk next to his Barack Obama bobblehead. The Russians don’t want them. The Chinese are already stuck with trillions they would like to unload for more gold. Frightened European one-percenters may want to park some cash in American paper to avoid bail-ins and other confiscations already rehearsed over there — but could that amount to more than a paltry few billion a month at the most?

What do the stock markets do without up to $85 billion a month (peak QE) sloshing around looking for dark pools to settle in? Can US companies keep the markets levitated by buying back their own shares like snakes eating their tails? Isn’t that basically over and done? And exactly how do interest rates stay suppressed when only a few French tax refugees want to buy American debt? I don’t think anybody knows the answer to these questions and the scenarios are too abstruse for the people who get paid for supposedly writing learned commentary in the sclerotic remnants of the press.

A few things are for sure, though they are sedulously kept out of the public discussion by interested gate-keepers. One is that the western economies have lost the ability to generate real new wealth of the type that their debt-based monetary systems require for ongoing operations (such as paying interest on old debt). Instead, we’ve entered a liminal era when fake wealth passes for wealth. Jive capital poses as capital. The main reason for this, of course, is the inability of world energy producers to meaningfully increase energy production in a way that does not suck more capital out of the system than the system can regenerate. But that conversation also has been outlawed from the public arena in “Saudi America.”

I suspect the subject will force itself on the national consciousness in the year ahead as one company after another in the shale oil regions craps out on a shortage of available investment capital. That’s the inflection point where fake wealth is unmasked for what it really is: crippled capital formation. The disappointment from that looming event will thunder through our society.

In the meantime, the distractions are many and powerful. Ebola may appear controlled for the moment in the USA, but the host countries in West Africa are virtually falling apart and the demographic movement out of failed economies like Liberia’s would suggest an awful dynamic for the spread of that disease into new regions. ISIS (or whatever we call them) is putting on a diversionary show on the Turkish border, but the real action awaits in Baghdad, perhaps poignantly at Christmas time, when mortar rounds start falling on the US embassy in the Green Zone and the evacuations commence.

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  1. goat1001 October 27, 2014 at 9:47 am #

    It appears the economies of West African nations are already in turmoil, especially for the three countries directly implicated in the ebola outbreak and to a significant extent adjacent countries. Since the ebola epidemic got such a head start this time it looks from my point of view to be headed to a fantastically higher death toll and potential spread to other countries before it is eventually – someday – brought under control. This alone is enough to send markets toppling and bring widespread hunger and civil unrest as local food production and other critical activities in those countries are brought to a halt due to farmers and workers literally dying. From now until the end of the year seems to me to be a really rough ride for the world at large. Next year however is really looking dangerous…

  2. goat1001 October 27, 2014 at 9:54 am #

    It is odd how the “low” price of oil – in relative terms of course – is putting a crunch on oil fracking operations and leading to the possibility of oil companies abandoning leases just because the cost of hydro-fracturing is just to high to warrant the continued operations with $80 oil.

    I certainly thought the opposite would be ringing true by now – the high cost of fracking coupled with a shortage of oil from conventional sources would be driving the cost of oil to the $200 range.

    • AKlein October 27, 2014 at 12:41 pm #

      Perhaps you are a new CFN reader. JHK has predicted for years now that the near term result of peak oil will be wild swings in its cost. It’s just the result of a very basic feadback mechanism; oil prices go up because of increased demand and decreasing availability. Increasing prices result in reduced demand, resulting in falling prices. Governmental/financial tinkering of the market makes for minor swings to morph into major ones. The more extreme the tinkering and finagling, the more extreme the swings. This is what we are now witnessing. Spot on prediction by JHK.

  3. contrahend October 27, 2014 at 10:02 am #

    I rather expect that roar to grow Niagara-like as US markets catch the urge to upchuck violently.

    Jim, this is your standard ‘now it’s really the end of the markets’ line, but it never pans out.

    You have much more talent than this, my friend.

    Hugs

    Kontrahend

    • polly October 28, 2014 at 6:16 pm #

      Good post. I will always read the blog as Jim has such an interesting take and entertaining language, however the conclusions are not supported by any real discipline. It is a view (which sells better than the purveyors lead on) perpetually looking for support. It is trying to predict things which are complex, that even if you are right, can be off by 30 years. There are a number of potential paths that don’t involve “going medieval”. Jim does not seem to appreciate the amount of change/adoption that can take place at the margin as supply/demand adjust. When something cannot continue, it won’t but that doesn’t mean it is like hitting a wall, its a transition.

  4. TPTB-USA October 27, 2014 at 10:04 am #

    I find it interesting that Spiegel puts this one out:

    The Zombie System: How Capitalism Has Gone Off the Rails
    By Michael Sauga

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/capitalism-in-crisis-amid-slow-growth-and-growing-inequality-a-998598.html

  5. Neon Vincent October 27, 2014 at 10:05 am #

    It looks like reality is imitating art. When I wrote my weekly entertainment entry, it was about zombies, gangsters, and sideshows. I meant the title literally, but as a metaphor, it would have worked for this week’s news quite well.

    Speaking of this week’s news, an interesting admission came out of Detroit’s bankruptcy trial, Detroit has embraced the salvage economy, converting waste into resources. For years, Detroit has been fighting scrappers, losing up to $1,000,000 per year in copper wires alone. As part of the bankruptcy, Detroit now plans on recycling up to 85% of its copper wires, an action made possible by LED streetlights requiring much less energy. The city could earn between $25,000,000 and $40,000,000 as a result of this action. The city would now become the biggest scrapper. If you can’t beat them, join them.

  6. the blame/e October 27, 2014 at 10:07 am #

    I will believe in the taper when all that free money actually stops flowing and interest rates actually start rising. I will believe in consequences when I start seeing some consequences.

    Reality. The real world has been so long held in abeyance that I don’t know if consequences even exist anymore. Maybe all along the real world is only real for some of us, not all of us.

    You don’t really believe that The Fed would actually fail in its mission do you? That we would have a “Fall of Saigon” in the financial markets, or the Fall of Bagdad?

  7. newworld October 27, 2014 at 10:14 am #

    The QE racket has produced a three trillion dollar haul into the Treasury, and the deficit has shrunk. These rackets have at least halted the slide, even us doomer right wing types have to admit that.

    But all these frauds come at a price, we are told there is no inflation, bullshit go buy groceries. Second the fraud of Obamacare, even if you get the subsidy you have an outrageous deductible that basically a large portion of Democratic party’s base cannot afford, but ignore that because its all good, because Obama. It’s all a fraud.

    And a question, how long will it be before the oligarchs of NYC call a halt to Obama’s crazy quest for medical tourism into the supposed crown jewel of ‘Murka, New York City? NYC real estate is quite the illiquid investment. People are puzzled why Bloomie spent so much money to be mayor, think how much net worth him and his friends accumulated via real estate appreciation.

  8. lsjogren October 27, 2014 at 10:29 am #

    The one thing where I have to disagree with JHK is on the state of the fossil fuel industry.

    The way I interpret his argument is that oil and natural gas prices are at artificially low levels, levels that cannot be sustained because they are below the cost of production, especially considering that the cost of production of the newer “unconventional” sources is higher than the “lower hanging fruit” that used to dominate the industry.

    Certainly there are market forces at work and oil and gas drilling are easing up as new projects do not pencil out so long as prices are low.

    However, this doesn’t look to me like a cycle of radical lurches back and forth. Oil was around $100 per barrel for some time, now it’s what, $85. Not exactly a collapse of prices. Declining exploration will reduce output a little and the price will probably inch up to the 90s or so, at which time exploration will be ramped up a bit and we will see the price fluctuate within a rather narrow range for a number of years.

    Clearly, the world economy can chug along on $80-100 per barrel oil, and for the time being there is plenty that can be produced within that range, if not at the bottom then at the top of that range.

    This will not last forever. But it seems to me we are looking at 2-3 decades at least where fossil fuels will continue to be able to sustain the human population, due to the “higher hanging fruit” that we are now able to pick. Consider that US oil fields were the oranges that were by far the most heavily squeezed anywhere in the world, and yet we have found a way to coax some more juice out of them. The new techniques have hardly begun to be deployed in the rest of the world, where the orange hasn’t been squeezed nearly as much to begin with.

    The human race is a 101 car freeway pileup waiting to happen, but that crash is at least 2-3 decades off. I am 61 and probably will not live to see the decline of the fossil fuel era.

    Now there are other ways the human race can wipe itself out, but as far as energy, we are not quite at the end of the road yet.

    • Smoky Joe October 27, 2014 at 10:43 am #

      The shale ‘boom’ is real, but temporary. I’d give it no more than 20 years, which is a small window for planning long-term, something Americans suck at doing.

      That said, some oil and gas are there for real, and we’ll be ripping it out of the ground with Federal and state subsidies (or invading Alberta) if it means the difference between “something like normal” vs. “A World Made By Hand” future. Illusions die hard.

      The area I find more troubling is the entire financial system being built upon faith and electrons. Money is the final illusion and the system is as fragile as it is globally connected.

    • seawolf77 October 27, 2014 at 11:33 am #

      If you look at the US production numbers, it peaked in December of 1970. Now no one is going to tell me that they can produce more oil today then they could then when oil was free flowing. Can’t be done. So that leaves a small window of whne it will peak again given the growth rate of fracked oil. The frack peak will not be higher than the conventional peak. No way no how. Yes I know the frack peak contains both depleting conventional production and new frack production.
      http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/leafhandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrfpus1&f=m

    • Apneaman October 27, 2014 at 7:43 pm #

      lsjogren

      You sound like hundreds/thousands of other commenters I read around the doomisphere who have convinced themselves that collapse will happen, but just not in their lifetime. Your probably better off thinking that way. As a pattern seeking ape, I notice these things.

      • lsjogren October 28, 2014 at 9:59 am #

        It is unclear what your belief is. Do you feel the doom will hit sooner than I expect or that it is not coming at all?

  9. George October 27, 2014 at 10:56 am #

    “I suspect the subject will force itself on the national consciousness in the year ahead as one company after another in the shale oil regions craps out on a shortage of available investment capital.”

    I concur. I suspect that it’s going to get really hard to keep the nation’s attention focused elsewhere. The antics employed by the new media are already stretching things beyond all reasonable limits. Just imagine what tricks they’ll have to use to try to hide this mess as it unfolds.

    And then there’s this business of the recent drop in oil prices. The reason floated by the news media is that global demand is off but I’m not buying it. More likely there’s been a change in the way the market price is being manipulated: either it’s been ramped up or whoever was behind what it was forced by circumstances to exit the scene. At the very least, there’s been a changing of the guard (so to speak).

    PS: Jim, Great to see you again at the Cooper Union last Thursday evening. I’m moved to write a new piece tentatively titled “Message in a Bottle” to those who inherit the future. We’d planned to spend some time over at McSorley’s and learning of your talk cinched the choice of when.

    • George November 3, 2014 at 10:01 am #

      I managed to take an “OK” photo of Jim afterwards and posted it to Facebook where it got a lot of “Likes”. Too bad because Jim asked me to remove it.

  10. contrahend October 27, 2014 at 11:07 am #

    Detroit now plans on recycling up to 85% of its copper wires, an action made possible by LED streetlights requiring much less energy.

    gotta love technology.

    more on LEDs that shows how we are overcoming energy constraints:

    But the real leap forward will come in about 2 years when next-generation LEDs come to market. We’ve written about one by Philips that gets 200 lumens/watt. These should be about twice as good as current LEDs and CFLs, allowing LEDs to finally declare a decisive victory over fluorescents.

    While most linear fluorescents get around 100 lumens per watt, this new LED model achieves an impressive 200 lumens/watt while meeting the criteria required for comfortable workplace lighting

    we are in the age of energy ascent. We won’t know what to do with all the excess energy.

    This one advancement by Philips can help retire 50 power plants.

    You world-enders have always been, and continue to be, the best bellwethers of great times ahead.

    Kontrahend

  11. BackRowHeckler October 27, 2014 at 11:19 am #

    Wow.

    Its not looking good.

    On a happier note, it was announced last week Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac will once again begin to underwrite (risky) mortgages to house buyers with not so good credit and little to no down payment.

    In order to ‘jumpstart’ the real estate industry.

    Redlining will not be tolerated.

    Also, these 25-30 million illegals, soon to be rendered legal after the election, will need places to live.

    –brh

  12. seawolf77 October 27, 2014 at 11:24 am #

    Just about every hyperinflationary period is preceeded by a brief deflationary period. This period has very little to do with monetary policy and everything to do with the pychological makeup of people. When the deflation occurs, the central banks “stimulate.” Guess what happens then? it is a process. The problem with a peak is the same with any lie. Right before the coup de gras, everything looks as rosy as a baby’s behind. That is what gives it its power. The concomitant aftermath is quite predictable. Denial, desperation, lashing out at anything, an attempt to rpeserve the status quo at any cost. What humans beings lack is adaptability. This comes from having principles. Principles are for times of plenty. Principles are replaced by priorities in times if shortage.

    • sprezzatura November 5, 2014 at 7:01 am #

      That’s “coup de grâce”.

      “Gras” means “fat”.

  13. FincaInTheMountains October 27, 2014 at 11:33 am #

    February 25, 2014
    http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=130586

    The survey shows global funding for emerging nanotechnology has increased by 40-to-45 percent PER YEAR for the last three years. It shows that REVENUE from nano-enabled products grew worldwide from $339 billion in 2010 to $731 billion in 2012 and to more than $1 trillion in 2013. REVENUE from the United States alone was $110 billion, $236 billion and $318 billion those same years, respectively.

    That is a remarkable growth – $318 Billion – TRIPLE from just 2 years ago in 2012 in REVENUES alone!!!

    May be obsolete technological fields are depressed, Nanotech is booming.

  14. FincaInTheMountains October 27, 2014 at 11:56 am #

    We are in the turning point of switching to a new long wave of technological development, so-called Kondratiev wave http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kondratiev_wave

    These periods are always coincide with great societal instabilities and wars. Last 2 times we had it :

    (1940–1985) The wave of the Scientific-technical revolution – start of the World War II

    (1985–2015) The wave of the Information and telecommunications revolution Pick of the Cold War, beginning of destruction of USSR

    Obviously governments of competing countries wants a maximum advantage for their domestic innovative industries and want to suppress the competitors. It used to be that the best way to do it is through increased military spending – since all prior technical revolutions had an application in military technology.

    This time is slightly different – the modern nanotechnologies have the most of their applications in humanitarian fields – medicine, education, social sciences, building materials.

    May be is why the financial warfare is being deployed to crush the competitors while the United States secures the position of absolute leader in new technological long wave.

    Since the US dollar is in reality the ONLY ONE world currency, US is consciously destroying current monetary-financial system, turning the main bulk of devastating effects outside of the country.

    The prize of being a leader in new long wave of techno-revolution is just worth it.

  15. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject October 27, 2014 at 12:36 pm #

    Isjo,

    I appreciate your remarks here today. You’ve presented an analysis that seems to pare subtly with the thinking of Richard Heinberg, who thinks the fracking boom in the US will not plateau but instead peak in 1-2 years and gradually decline over a 15 year period. His view is supposed to be somehow different from the IEAs statements that the US will simply stop being a top producer somewhere ’round 2030.

    http://c-realmpodcast.podomatic.com/entry/2014-10-22T13_05_04-07_00

    To me, Heinberg hasn’t really countered the claims of those who believe in the “Saudi American” oil renaissance but rather demonstrates with less enthusiastic language that economic collapse will not occur due to energy decline in the near-term thanks to hydro-fracking; nevertheless, peak oil is still legitimate and fracking still desperate, isn’t it.

    To me, this is the time of year for the fame-less uninitiated prognosticators to backtrack and explain away the year’s hasty claims which never actually bore fruit. What’s happening in the blogosphere in the final months of 2014 on the prominent Doom sites is tacit acknowledgment of defeat, not of their ideas per se but in the notion that this culture can smartly adjust the course of it’s social constructs in line with natural events. Hell, it seems this culture will not even be forced to adjust its paradigm to match basic reality. Ready for another bitter cold winter and another fabulous holiday shopping disaster?

    On a separate but related issue, even another financial calamity is simply likely to garner only a set of new bailouts this time originated through the International Monetary Fund and SDRs, in all its spooky NWO splendor. James G. Rickards presents the most intelligent thesis on this phenomenon, so no.. god damn-it… not even a US dollar collapse is likely to stop the rape and plunder by the corporate fascists. And “we” don’t really give a fuck anyhow. Cue the gold bugs who think their gonna get rich for stackin’ pms. Even if Gold explodes to $50 gazillion an once, who is dumb enough to think that would be allowed to last for long?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVoMSJ4sry8

    Sorry if the Rickards interview embeds.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 27, 2014 at 2:31 pm #

      Rickards is lying through his teeth. Money printing DID produce price inflation, just NOT in the US. Smart asholes are producing inflation and exporting it all over the world.

      That is actually the main conflict in the world today.

      • CancelMyCard October 28, 2014 at 8:03 pm #

        Rickards is not lying through his teeth.

        YOU are lying through your teeth.

        YOU are a disingenuous, piece-of-shit fool.

        Rickards knows more about currency, finance, and monetary policy, than you will ever know in your short, brutally stupid, lifetime.

        Go away and leave us all alone. Forever.

        • FincaInTheMountains November 1, 2014 at 8:44 am #

          Your are obviously upset about me trying to present here a not American-centered view of the world situation.

          You shouldn’t be

    • FincaInTheMountains October 27, 2014 at 2:36 pm #

      I know Americans don’t care much what is happening around the world, but you should. Eventually – and very soon – it’ll come bite you.

  16. Florida Power October 27, 2014 at 12:44 pm #

    Treasury and the FED are in the same box without exit they built beginning with the plunge protection team in 1987 thence through QE and ZIRP. The intent has been to manage (or is that create?) reality. What has become a quasi-Ptolemaic system of financial epicycles somehow continues to function though, as I can still trade my now-appreciating $FRN for gasoline. Others note the $FRN appreciation is not so clear relative to food. But a complex universe requires epicycles within epicycles to make observed effects work in theory. When and if the dollar goes super-nova in a financial singularity (could we be witnessing that now?) the Great Reset will occur as in 16th century cosmology, and theories such as the entire edifice represented by the FICA box on your pay stub will be exposed to the natural truth of demographics. But perhaps by that time contrahend’s Deus Ex Machina will have descended from the heavens and we will all be saved. It could happen, you know.

  17. pkrugman October 27, 2014 at 12:46 pm #

    “…peak oil is still legitimate and fracking still desperate, isn’t it.” –UFIA

    Please do not confuse oil and energy. Energy comes in many forms.

    We may have peak oil, but as Contrahend says every week, we do not have an energy crisis. Technology and nano-technology gains cannot be denied or mislabeled as “magic.” The future is rosy.

    Pat Kelly Rugman

    • lsjogren October 28, 2014 at 10:14 am #

      I differ with you. Fossil fuels and energy are synonymous, because there are NOT alternative energy sources to any meaningful extent.

      I wish it were otherwise, but it is not.

      I believe that unfortunately this has led most alternative energy boosters to be pursuing policies that are just making things worse. We build Potemkin Energy Plants for wind and solar even though they do virtually nothing to reduce fossil fuel use, mainly on account of their intermittency.

      What we should be doing is FACE UP to the fact that alternative energy sources do not exist and fund aggressive research to attempt to find genuine alternatives. Maybe we will come up short. But at least we should try. And renewable energy boosters are not helping when they lobby for Potemkin Energy Villages because they are unwilling to accept the inconvenient truth that wind and solar are relatively useless unless the intermittency problem can be addressed in a robust manner.

  18. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject October 27, 2014 at 1:02 pm #

    “Please do not confuse oil and energy. Energy comes in many forms.” -Disingenuous

    No shit, Sherlock.

    “Technology and nano-technology gains cannot be denied or mislabeled as “magic.” -More so Disingenuous

    Indeed, but human conception and application of technology is in fact clouded with magical thinking. That is all that is asserted, at least by me.

    • lsjogren October 28, 2014 at 10:20 am #

      Technology and nano-technology gains are not irrelevant, but so far they are only scratching the surface in terms of the technological advances we would need for a genuine solution to post-fossil fuel energy supply.

  19. pkrugman October 27, 2014 at 1:02 pm #

    “Its not looking good.” — BRH

    ISIS has been trying, unsuccessfully, to take a single town for the last month. What is stopping them? Obama’s airstrikes and boots on the ground.

    It must piss off ISIS that the boots on the ground against them are being worn by women soldiers. ISIS cannot even overcome women soldiers. Maybe there are women pilots in the jets making airstrikes. Maybe some of the anti-ISIS fighters are even lesbian or transgender.

    It doesn’t matter. ISIS has not been able to take over Kobani in a month of fighting because ISIS has not been able to overcome resistance from a 10,000 strong, fully female militia of women Peshmerga fighters.

    BRH, your rants against women, gays, transgender, etc. in the military don’t wash. Or were you wrong about ISIS?

    • BackRowHeckler October 28, 2014 at 7:24 am #

      Just yesterday ISIS captured, and beheaded, female Kurdish fighter ‘Rohanna’.

      A very attractive young lady, photogenic, the face of Kurd resistance.

      Of course it was recorded. Look it up.

      brh

  20. contrahend October 27, 2014 at 1:11 pm #

    Energy Ascent is Now

    But perhaps by that time contrahend’s Deus Ex Machina will have descended from the heavens and we will all be saved. It could happen, you know.

    Telling how the commenter invokes a vague, cloud-filled image, rather than cite specific reasons why technology will not assist us.

    If you plot the trajectory of technological innovation/discovery over the past several centuries, you’ll see it points to more and more efficient use of energy & discoveries of more and more abundant sources.

    I cited a 100% improvement in LED lighting technology a few comments up that can retire 50 power plants alone.

    Lighting accounts for one fifth of the world’s total electricity consumption. By creating the most energy-efficient LED lamp prototype ever at 200 lumens per watt, Philips hopes to cut business and household lighting bills by at least half. This innovation, which produces warm white light, is a huge leap forward from today’s standards: it’s twice as efficient as current fluorescent lighting and more than 10 times as efficient as a traditional light bulb. Philips expects to launch the lamp in 2015.

    Entire countries are being powered by renewables, viz Germany and Spain.

    In 2013, renewable energy provided 42 percent of Spain’s power demand.

    IBM’s new sunflower solar panel has an efficiency of 80%:

    Computer giant IBM last week revealed the prototype of its advanced solar electricity generators: a 30ft-high concrete “sunflower” fitted with wafer-thin aluminium mirrors and a maze of tiny tubes for carrying coolant through the heart of each device. The machines, which will be built in conjunction with the Swiss company Airlight Energy, can convert 80% of the sun’s radiation into electricity and hot water, it is claimed, with each generating 12 kilowatts of electricity and 20kW of heat on a sunny day, enough to supply several homes.

    The sum total of all energy efficiency/energy harnessing efforts has sounded the death knell of the peak energy crowd.

    We nevertheless salute you as we bound into a future of cornucopia & energy ascent.

    Kontrahend

    • FincaInTheMountains October 27, 2014 at 2:45 pm #

      contrahend, Solar energy is a diversion. The only future in energy is in nuclear – modern fission (fast neutron reactors) or fusion.

      Remember, it’s all about energy flux density – amount of power produced per hour per square mile.

      The most efficient use of sun energy is growing food.

      • lsjogren October 28, 2014 at 10:28 am #

        Actually, solar cells are far more efficient than photosynthesis.

        The diffuse nature of solar energy is a bummer but not a show stopper. What it means is that if solar becomes a major energy source we will need to use large chunks of land for solar collectors, and this will have adverse ecological consequences. But then, it’s probably a pipedream to believe there is any way to sustain a human population of billions without major ecological consequences.

        Just like with oil, if solar one day becomes an energy solution, then we will do it regardless of the environmental consequences, because no human society that either has or seeks to acquire modern housing, health care, transportation, education, will voluntarily abandon those amenities for the sake of the health of the earth.

    • Florida Power October 27, 2014 at 3:03 pm #

      Kontra —

      I own 2.8kW of PV, grid-tied, with battery back-up, as well as another small remote 200Ah PV-battery system. I am down with the program. I get mail daily relating to power technology owing to my occupation.

      The Skunk Works recently announced a fusion energy conceptual breakthrough. But maybe not quite:
      http://cleantechnica.com/2014/10/16/compact-fusion-reactor-kerfluffle-ignited-skunk-works/
      There are very smart people working around the world around the clock who may yet categorize the Second Law of Thermodynamics as a limited case. Optimism is not unreasonable.

      My skepticism results from the belief, possibly mistaken, that the Scientific Revolution was not accompanied by a revolution in human nature. In other words that the human animal is still pretty much like it was during, say, the Roman Empire. Rome had incredible feats of engineering that, following the political dissolution, were lost for over a thousand years. Devolution is not only possible, it seems to be the norm. That’s about as specific as I can get.

      Heck, this time it may really be different.

      • capt spaulding October 28, 2014 at 11:09 am #

        I agree with you about human nature. From chariots to space shuttles, it remains unchanged.

  21. pkrugman October 27, 2014 at 1:25 pm #

    “…it seems to me we are looking at 2-3 decades at least where fossil fuels will continue to be able to sustain the human population…” –lsjogren

    This is exactly what Asoka used to say on CFN before he was banned or died or simply stopped posting for some reason.

    Interesting to see posters like UFIA and lsjogren now essentially agreeing with Asoka that we are not to be scared by predictions of collapse within weeks or months.

    Instead of a collapse there will be a long period of decline during which other energy sources will replace oil. We are not in a clusterfuck.

  22. seawolf77 October 27, 2014 at 1:32 pm #

    It’s amazing to see how fast the vindicated ones exit their holes after a significant drop in oil price. In the face of crashing fundamentals, exploding debt, and vastly worse off populations in almost every respect, they continue to insist all is well. 6 years ago these people were saying everything is fine. Those same people are saying everything is fine today. These people fundamentally trust the powers that be… nothing will shake that belief. It is part of their upbringing.

  23. pkrugman October 27, 2014 at 1:39 pm #

    “Telling how the commenter invokes a vague, cloud-filled image, rather than cite specific reasons why technology will not assist us.” — contrahend

    Forgive them, for they know not that their minds are clouded by magical images of doom. They don’t have evidence for their doom wishes, only opinion and fanciful fact-free speculation.

    Maybe it is the time of year. We are supposed to be scared at Halloween. Oh, be afraid the borders! Be afraid of immigrants! ISIS is going to kill us all! Oh, Ebola! Oh, Y2K! Oh, peak oil! Oh, QE! Gold standard! FEMA camps! Obama gonna take our guns! Death panels! Obamacare! Multiculturalism! ACORN! New Black Panthers! etc. etc. week after week of fear mongering.

    I know you do not share my position on many issues, contrahend, but thanks for sharing what is happening in the real world technology-wise with real facts and real numbers.

    • Florida Power October 27, 2014 at 3:24 pm #

      I, the commenter, have replied above.
      For a really interesting and factual read, see:
      http://spectrum.ieee.org/green-tech/wind/norway-wants-to-be-europes-battery
      Matching hydro and wind (thanks to some advances in power electronics and materials science): when the wind blows in Denmark which happens a lot the excess power is diverted to Norway (rich in hydro resources) incorporated into its grid demand and powering pumps to reposition water at higher elevation reservoirs for future hydropower which can be exported back to Denmark when the wind does not blow. There will be an eventual tie with great Britain and Germany. This addresses the storage conundrum in renewable energy.

      The concept I am sure can be developed elsewhere in the world (think American West). All it takes is the will to do so, the capital, the smarts, and the intelligence to use resources this way rather than preparing to blow up the world because of Crimea, or the Senkaku Islands, or whatever enemy the neocons have invented today.

  24. BioWebScape October 27, 2014 at 1:47 pm #

    The sign of the times hit here locally just the other day.

    Slipknot the oddly odd rock band is playing the “Hell Tour” at the verizon arena in central arkansas on the 4th of Nov, Election day. Likely aleady sold out, Not that I wanted to go or anything, but the whole Hey lets play in Clinton land, on Election Day I found that a big joke on all of us.

    Sure I will vote several local bills to make sure they don’t pass like hidden agenda’s of extending term limits hidden inside bills not even talking about that sort of thing. It seems the people that got elected, want more than their share of the apple cart, and the money from DC. In the form of Ad dollars, you know the place all that funny money goes, but the people hardly see unless they make signs and banners and bells and whirly gigs for the election cycle.

    As to ISIS the Kurds on RT said that ISIS has been told that if a female kills them they go to hell, straight away and don’t get the virgins like they do if they get killed by a guy with a gun. So The world should send them a note, all our ladies are getting with guns to hunt you down and end your terror campaign, the only thing they cna do is rewrite their own religion and make getting killed by a woman a good thing. But will their leaders be dumb enough to not do that or what?

    Any good rant James. Keep them up,

    Charles.

  25. pkrugman October 27, 2014 at 1:54 pm #

    “It’s amazing to see how fast the vindicated ones exit their holes after a significant drop in oil price.” — seawolf77

    Go back and look at the catastrophic CFN predictions of six years ago… or Y2K 16 years ago.

    Gasoline was going to go to $6.00 a gallon. Economic collapse was just around the corner. People were talking in terms of weeks and months. Maybe by Christmas, then by Easter, then by Labor Day, etc. but the die-hard clusterfuckers were sure of their faith in doom. True believers.

    You seem to have groups and elevations confused. The cornucopians have been above ground the whole time, where they could see the sky is not falling. The DOW did not fall to 4,000, but the doomsters have continued stocking their bunkers with gold, ammo, and food supplies.

    Better check those food supplies. It may be time to refresh the quality of supplies hoarded … while we wait for the CFN imaginary apocalypse.

  26. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject October 27, 2014 at 2:00 pm #

    “We nevertheless salute you as we bound into a future of cornucopia & energy ascent.”-Contraindicate

    Yeah? Any dumb-ass can put together a much better set of citations than yours for technical innovations promising relative cornucopia and generic ascent. Hell, the 18th, 19th, and 20th centuries tell the complete story of how all that wonderful tech was misused time and again, as the cornucopic excesses rotted before everyone’s eyes. So somehow it’s gonna be different here forward?

    Much better technology in a wide range contexts has been available for over half a century now, yet the implementation and benefit of such have been effectively stifled, stolen or hidden away.

    Nah, it’s the myriad other social adaptations to tech that are necessary for successful allocation that will never occur, for reasons well known, which you wholly avoid proffering for discussion. And we know why that is.

    Poor try, Contra.

  27. contrahend October 27, 2014 at 2:34 pm #

    Much better technology in a wide range contexts has been available for over half a century now, yet the implementation and benefit of such have been effectively stifled, stolen or hidden away.

    it would greatly help if you’d cite something specific. you and other posters talk in nebulous terms of bad this and bad that. that’s just a way of saying nothing while pretending to say something.

    how does germany getting 70% of its power from solar, and spain getting 42% of its power from renewables equate to technology being stifled and hidden away? and a new LED that’s 100% more efficient? it just makes me chuckle that you folks have no retort to these advances that make a mockery of your predictions of woe, lol.

    Any dumb-ass can put together a much better set of citations than yours for technical innovations promising relative cornucopia and generic ascent.

    well, then, have at it.

    kontrahend

    • FincaInTheMountains October 27, 2014 at 2:53 pm #

      “how does germany getting 70% of its power from solar”

      Where the hell did you get that number?

      Germany’s renewable energy sector is among the most innovative and successful worldwide. The share of electricity produced from renewable energy in Germany has increased from 6.3% of the national total in 2000 to about 30% in the first half of 2014.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_Germany

      I actually doubt even that 30%. Besides, it makes German economy less competitive due to VERY expensive “renewable energy”.

  28. bentley12 October 27, 2014 at 3:02 pm #

    Not to worry! Rick Scott and the Koch Brothers plan to start fracking in central Florida, along the line of what would have been a light rail system. And every Teabagger will go out and vote next week for Rick Scott. Incredible.

    • Florida Power October 29, 2014 at 10:25 am #

      Vote Libertarian. Charley is predictably speaking out of both sides of his mouth on the issue, which means of course that he is available for hire. He coyly refers to natural gas resources within Florida to power public transportation, while promising to study the fracking issue.

      The closest approximation to NO comes from Adrian Wyllie:
      “Our natural aquifer system is the primary source of drinking water in Florida. Hydraulic fracking presents a potential risk to the integrity and quality of our aquifer, and we must consider the potential impact of polluting our already strained drinking water supply. Therefore, I do not support hydraulic fracking in Florida, as the risk to our aquifer is too great compared to the potential benefit. A major fracking mishap could potentially make our state uninhabitable for lack of freshwater resources.”

  29. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject October 27, 2014 at 3:20 pm #

    “Interesting to see posters like UFIA and lsjogren now essentially agreeing with Asoka that we are not to be scared by predictions of collapse within weeks or months.”-Rug

    This is wrong as far as my personal perspective is concerned. Do not confuse my own observations as contrariwise conclusions to the likes of JHK and similar others; I’m merely watching how things pan out. What I see in the unfolding is in part a validation of both the Doomer outlook alongside the self-evident responses by the comptroller class, which ceaselessly adjusts to success/failure with ever more complex mitigation.

    Predictions fail mainly because the uninitiated don’t hold any decision making power. But that doesn’t mean those without power can’t follow trend lines, right? Regardless, worrying about Black Swans and Snowflake moments is quite stupid, because the nature of both is unpredictability. The only answer is to fight, and I’ve learned that people of today simply have no fight in them.

    Unless or until ecology completely gives out (already underway) or if Nuclear mushrooms sprout, the maneuvering continues virtually unabated. This is what I’ve learned in 3-years. No dystopia or utopia is possible, for either requires perfect circumstance, and no such thing exists; instead, a slow unfolding where perceived will and determinism collide proceeds.

    My main takeaway for these few years of inquiry is that the Elite make moves to counter the perceptions of Doomers, which have tangible effects on circumstances; Doomers then again make predictions to demonstrate the consequences of the latter; the dance continues until it can’t. It’s all irony to me.

  30. contrahend October 27, 2014 at 4:57 pm #

    “how does germany getting 70% of its power from solar”
    Where the hell did you get that number?

    just wanted to wake you up, glad you responded. Germany gets up to 70% of its electricity for several hours/a day from solar every now and then. A gargantuan feat nonetheless – and a harbinger of more success to come.

    Germany’s thunderous economy speaks for itself.

    Re the Denmark Norway hydropower/windpower juggernaut:

    Matching hydro and wind (thanks to some advances in power electronics and materials science): when the wind blows in Denmark which happens a lot the excess power is diverted to Norway (rich in hydro resources) incorporated into its grid demand and powering pumps to reposition water at higher elevation reservoirs for future hydropower which can be exported back to Denmark when the wind does not blow. There will be an eventual tie with great Britain and Germany. This addresses the storage conundrum in renewable energy.

    When I lived in Iceland in the 80s & 90s, there was lots of talk and hopes pinned on laying a cable to Scotland to pipe out hydropower/geothermal electricity from the 85% of the country’s potential that was still untapped at the time.

    This Norway-Denmark alliance is an awesome use of clean renewable power. CFNers, it’s time to get on board with the fact that we are solving the fossil fuel dilemma handily.

    Further to that –

    According to the Danish Energy Agency, such interconnectors are why Denmark can accommodate the world’s highest levels of wind power, which met 41.2 percent of Danish demand in the first half of this year. At times wind power production even exceeds the country’s domestic power demand.

    So,,,,,,Spain with 42% of power produced by renewables, and now Denmark with 41% from wind alone, plus Germany with 70% on certain days.

    I’m waiting to hear “it’s only a drop in the bucket”.

    We are drowning in energy & are in the Age of Energy Ascent.

    And now, in the Ebola News category:

    First Dallas nurse [Nina Pham] with Ebola leaves hospital

    Cured.

    Amber Vinson’s blood tested negative for Ebola virus just nine days after she was first diagnosed.

    Cured.

    Technology: 1
    CFN: 0

    Nevertheless, we salute you as we rocket into a future of boundless energy & undreamt riches on all fronts.

    Kontrahend

    • lsjogren October 28, 2014 at 10:31 am #

      “Germany gets up to 70% of its electricity for several hours/a day from solar every now and then. ”

      That DOES NOT speak well for solar. It underscores the fact that when the sun isn’t shining, you wind up largely having to rely on coal and nuclear power.

      Now one exception is if you can use dispatchable hydro to fill in the gaps in solar and wind production. However, hydro is a relatively modest energy resource in terms of quantity, and it is very limited geographically. (I have the good fortune to live in the Pacific Northwest that does have an abundant hydro resource. Most of mankind does not have a hydro resource available to them)

    • lsjogren October 28, 2014 at 10:53 am #

      Pumped hydro is probably the best technology for mass storage of electric power today.

      However, I have never seen any energy scholar claim that it can be a major part of an alternative energy future. The amount of energy available with it is rather modest and it is only feasible in a handful of geographic locations. The Scientific American article a decade or so ago that tried to conjure up a renewable energy future used underground compressed air storage as its “magic elixir” for energy storage because it seemed like the least implausible of anything they could come up with.

      Now, if one wants to tout pumped storage as a key technology that will allow a small remnant of the human race to survive Peak Oil in a few places like Norway, that seems like a reasonable hypothesis. Might make a good theme for a sci fi novel in fact.

    • orbit7er October 28, 2014 at 11:09 am #

      As usual in league unfortunately even with groups who should know better like Greenpeace or the Sierra Club all the purveyors of the idea that solar or wind energy can provide all the US hoggish energy needs are shouting in the wind. The main energy hog they ignore is transportation ie “Happy Motoring” which represents over 35% of US
      energy usage and had been growing in its consumption before the 2008 crash. Auto/Air addiction accounts for 70% of US oil consumption which remains 40% imports despite the “fracking Revolution”. James Kunstler, RIchard Heinberg and many Peak Oil experts have pointed this out for years. While the US has taken some baby steps in reducing transportation’s energy usage via Prius sales and some increase in Green public transit, mostly what has happened is some 30% of lower income Americans can no longer afford a car. I can witness this when I go to the local gas station where the attendants’ bikes are parked because the low paid gas pumpers ironically cannot afford cars themselves. You can also see it in increasing numbers of poor working people walking or riding bikes along dangerous highways. The current $3 per gallon gas will temporarily alleviate this situation but it is unlikely to be permanent.

      I just returned on the Acela from Boston to NY Penn Station. Our train was delayed 3 times by disabled or stuck commuter trains along the way making the train’s arrival 20 minutes late. Here in NY/NJ we have the news, finally sinking into even Teabag Koch funded Gov’s Cuomo and Christie’s consciousness, that the tunnels from New Jersey to New York are suffering serious salt damage from Hurricane Sandy – both the Midtown and PATH tunnels, which means the already overloaded tunnels will have to be taken out of serious for a year at a time in rotation to fix. Hence a sudden scramble to restart the tunnel project which Christie nixed to steal billions for expanding highways without raising the gas tax. These sorts of investments do not happen overnight. They take years…
      This is not news to any followers of Kunster, Heinberg et al but apparently seems to be ignored by the cornucopians.

  31. Frankiti October 27, 2014 at 5:44 pm #

    Why are so many people shocked and upset that an artificial societal construct like money is being perpetuated by even more artificial societal constructs like markets and debt? Alas, none of it is real.
    Why is human progress hindered with self-imposed chains?
    Infrastructure, medicine, environment, space exploration, high-speed trains in the US, education… all retarded by antiquated notions of money.

    Money is the greatest impediment to human achievement and progress, even more so than the sickening strains of religion from the middle east.

    Move on… but perhaps, that’s what they are really doing.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 27, 2014 at 6:16 pm #

      “Money is the greatest impediment to human achievement and progress”

      Before stating a really silly thing like that, please suggest something better which will support high degree of labor separation.

      Unless, of course, you want to do everything yourself from scratch (can you fix a blown fuse? how about making a fuse?)

      • Frankiti October 27, 2014 at 8:25 pm #

        Really silly… like the Earth being round, the Earth orbiting the sun, and women suffrage. People get so comfortable in the mechanical order of the hive.

        Labor is an increasingly useless commodity, at least in terms of human involvement.

        It’s evolution, it moves in fits and starts. Humanity stopped hunting and gathering food, soon they won’t have to concern themselves with building fuses.

        Accept it.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 27, 2014 at 8:43 pm #

        During the Depression, crops stood unpicked in the fields and machines idle in the factory. There was nothing wrong with them, but with some abstraction called “money”. Can you eat it? Heat your home with it? Make something with it? Yet this this thing got in the way of real wealth. Money must never be allowed to become something in itself. It must remain subservient to real physical commodities. Otherwise, the door is left open to the bloodsuckers. The deceivers. The Nation wreckers.

        Yes, the economy need oversight, but not by the Banker Internationalist Bloodsuckers, but by Men of the Nation. Men with proven loyalty to the Nation.

        • lsjogren October 28, 2014 at 10:57 am #

          So how does commerce take place without a medium of exchange, i.e. money?

    • lsjogren October 28, 2014 at 10:40 am #

      Markets and debt yada yada are not real, yet we do have an economy and the economy has produced such things as roads and bridges and homes and hospitals and railroads (and yes, the US has the best rail system in the world, contrary to conventional wisdom).

      So the economy cannot be written off as merely an illusion. My view is that the economy is driven by natural resources, provided those exist they create the platform for material prosperity and expansion of human knowledge.

      And then we have these institutions imposed on the economy such as “dollars” and the Fed which produce modulations on this economy which may or may not be serving the public good, but they do not preclude a real economy from existing, because they are not the foundation of the economy, they are simply “middlemen” imposed upon it. Since they are not the foundation of the economy, even if they are little more than “illusions”, that doesn’t make the economy itself illusory, because they are not the engine that drives the economy.

      • Frankiti October 28, 2014 at 5:41 pm #

        Everything can be produced without money.

        The meme/idea exists
        The knowhow/blueprint exists
        The will/desire exists
        The resources/materials exist.

        Money does not exist, but it stymies all.
        This is reality.

        Commerce has, still does, and will exist without money and fiat banknotes.

  32. FincaInTheMountains October 27, 2014 at 6:36 pm #

    Not to worry. Obama will jump on the plane to China and will allow Chineese to buy California (after they’ve finished with Detroit) – and Fed’ll have another couple of years of happy money printing.

    And let Chineese fix the water problem in California (and in Detroit).

    • lsjogren October 28, 2014 at 10:41 am #

      I have long believed we should just offer California to Mexico for one dollar. I bet they’d take us up on it. Don’t fool yourself that China would pay much for California. They know its liabilities outweigh its assets.

  33. Pucker October 27, 2014 at 7:41 pm #

    I see that the Koch Brothers made a large, generous donation to the United Negro College Fund, and they accepted the money.

    “A Mind is a terrible thing to waste.”

    “A Terrible Thing is a lost Mind.”

    “A Wasted Thing is a a Terrible Mind lost.”

  34. pkrugman October 27, 2014 at 8:55 pm #

    “The governors of a number of states, including New York and New Jersey, recently imposed 21-day quarantines on health care workers returning to the United States from regions of the world where they may have cared for patients with Ebola virus disease. We understand their motivation for this policy — to protect the citizens of their states from contracting this often-fatal illness. This approach, however, is not scientifically based, is unfair and unwise, and will impede essential efforts to stop these awful outbreaks of Ebola disease at their source, which is the only satisfactory goal. The governors’ action is like driving a carpet tack with a sledgehammer: it gets the job done but overall is more destructive than beneficial.” — New England Journal of Medicine

    New Jersey Governor Chris Christie had to back down when the nurse he tried to quarantine in New Jersey got a lawyer and threatened to sue him for depriving her of her liberty.

    This hysteria about Ebola is counterproductive: quarantine is punishing the very people who are working to eliminate the virus at its source.

  35. Pucker October 27, 2014 at 9:25 pm #

    Can they “quarantine” stupid people?

  36. Pucker October 28, 2014 at 1:58 am #

    That was some useful advice a couple of weeks ago about an alternate use for empty Snapple bottles. It used to be that when I used an empty Coke bottle that I’d often spray it all over the front seat and the dash board. Thanks.

  37. pkrugman October 28, 2014 at 2:09 am #

    Yes, the economy need oversight, but not by the Banker Internationalist Bloodsuckers, but by Men of the Nation. Men with proven loyalty to the Nation. — Janos

    Janos, did you mean white men? Or men who are also Jewish, men who are Black, men who are Hispanic? Men who are Muslim? What about gay men? And what about Women? Can they provide oversight for the economy?

    Could you be more specific about what you mean by “Men of the Nation”? The Nation of Islam? Or are we in fantasy land dreaming about big strong Nordic men who are white and Christian… the ones who have been running this country up until 2008 and ran the nation into the ditch. Surely we don’t want old white Christian men to continue damaging the Nation?

    Like Justice Ginsburg answered when asked how many women should be on the Supreme Court: Nine. Nine, that is how many old white men were Supreme Court justices for most of American history and no one complained. Why should anyone complain if we have nine women justices? It is just as fair.

    You see, the Nation exists. The Nation today is multicultural and religiously and sexually pluralistic.

    A Black man is president and we did not have another 9/11 on his watch. Ten million Americans who were without health care now have health care thanks to Obama’s efforts. Unemployment is half what it was under George W. Bush. We are out of Iraq and we are getting out of Afghanistan in a couple months: that is change I can believe in.

    The Nation is doing fine, Janos. You are the one who is rejecting the Nation. You are the one with nameless “Banker Internationalist Bloodsuckers” conspiracy theories. You are marginalized and will soon be forgotten. The future does not belong to old white Christian men.

    • Frankiti October 28, 2014 at 5:49 pm #

      An observation:

      The thing is, no matter where “white men” find themselves… everyone else just has to be there. Funny, the attraction, of one having their sh*t together…

  38. Pucker October 28, 2014 at 2:19 am #

    I don’t think that in the TV show “Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea” that there was a men’s room in the Flying Sub? Admiral Nelson and Captain Crane probably used empty Snapple bottles?

  39. FincaInTheMountains October 28, 2014 at 5:40 am #

    U.S. is Responsible for the Ebola Outbreak in West Africa: Liberian Scientist
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-liberian-scientist-claims-the-u-s-is-responsible-for-the-ebola-outbreak-in-west-africa/5408459

    A History of Guatemala’s Syphilis Experiment: How a U.S. Led Team Performed Human Experimentations in Central America

    Dr. Cyril Broderick, A Liberian scientist and a former professor of Plant Pathology at the University of Liberia’s College of Agriculture and Forestry says the West, particularly the U.S. is responsible for the Ebola outbreak in West Africa. Dr. Broderick claims the following in an exclusive article published in the Daily Observer based in Monrovia, Liberia. He wrote the following:

    The US Department of Defense (DoD) is funding Ebola trials on humans, trials which started just weeks before the Ebola outbreak in Guinea and Sierra Leone. The reports continue and state that the DoD gave a contract worth $140 million dollars to Tekmira, a Canadian pharmaceutical company, to conduct Ebola research. This research work involved injecting and infusing healthy humans with the deadly Ebola virus. Hence, the DoD is listed as a collaborator in a “First in Human” Ebola clinical trial (NCT02041715, which started in January 2014 shortly before an Ebola epidemic was declared in West Africa in March.

    REASONS:

    Most people jump to “depopulation” which is no doubt always on the mind of the West when it comes to Africa. But I assure you Africa can NEVER be depopulated by killing 160 people a day when thousands are born per day. So the real reasons are much more tangible

    Reason 1:

    This vaccine implemented sickness being “called” Ebola was introduced into West Africa for the end goal of getting troops on the ground in Nigeria, Liberia, and Sierra Leone. If you remember America was just trying to get into Nigeria for “Boko Haram”. BULLSHIT. But that fell apart when Nigerians started telling the truth. There ARE NO GIRLS MISSING. Global support fell through the floor, and a new reason was needed to get troops into Nigeria and steal the new oil reserves they have discovered.

    Reason 2:

    Sierra Leone is the World’s Largest Supplier of Diamonds. For the past 4 months they have been on strike, refusing to provide diamonds due to horrible working conditions and slave pay. The West will not pay a fair wage for the resources because the idea is to keep these people surviving on rice bags and foreign aid so that they remain a source of cheap slave labor forever. A reason was also needed to get troops on the ground in Sierra Leone to force an end to the diamond miners strikes. This is not the first time this has been done. When miners refuse to work troops are sent in and even if they have to kill and replace them all, the only desire is to get diamonds back flowing out of the country. Of course to launch multiple campaigns to invade these countries separately would be way too fishy. But something like “Ebola” allows access to an entire area simultaneously…

    Reason 3:

    In addition to stealing Nigerian oil, and forcing Sierra Leone back to mining, troops have also been sent in to FORCE vaccinations (Deadly “Ebola” Poison) onto those Africans who are not foolish enough to take them willingly.
    3000 troops are being sent in to make sure that this “poison” continues to spread, because again it is only spread through vaccination. As more and more news articles are released as they have been in Liberia, informing the populous of the US lies and manipulation, more and more Africans are refusing to visit the Red Cross. Troops will force these vaccinations upon the people to ensure the visible appearance of an Ebola pandemic. In addition to this they will protect the Red Cross from the Liberians and Nigerians who have been rightfully ejecting them from their countries.

    Reason 4:

    Last but not least, the APPEARANCE of this Ebola “pandemic” (should Americans not catch on) will be used to scare the countless millions into taking an “Ebola vaccine” which in reality is the pandemic. Already they have started with stories of how it has been brought to the U.S. and has appeared in Dallas, how white doctors were cured but black infected are not being allowed to be treated, etc.

    ===================================================
    Crazy conspiracy theory? Perhaps. Could it be true – absolutely.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 28, 2014 at 1:55 pm #

      How about trying to counter the Chinese?

  40. BackRowHeckler October 28, 2014 at 7:31 am #

    What’s happening south of the border, down Mexico way?

    43 college students have disappeared in Iguala. Authorities are searching for them; so far no luck, but mass graves being dug up everywhere.

    BBC had a big feature on it this morning.

    Seems like that country is a slaughterhouse.

    Is this what we can expect here?

    brh

  41. BackRowHeckler October 28, 2014 at 8:43 am #

    The guy who shot the two police officers to death outside Sacramento last week was an illegal from Mexico.

    Whether or not he was a “Dreamer’ is not yet clear.

    –brh

  42. contrahend October 28, 2014 at 8:44 am #

    Seems like that country is a slaughterhouse.

    nothing out of the ordinary for south american-central american-mexican culture. plus many more cultures.

    Kontrahend

  43. contrahend October 28, 2014 at 9:16 am #

    In addition to stealing Nigerian oil, and forcing Sierra Leone back to mining, troops have also been sent in to FORCE vaccinations (Deadly “Ebola” Poison) onto those Africans who are not foolish enough to take them willingly. 3000 troops are being sent in to make sure that this “poison” continues to spread, because again it is only spread through vaccination.

    the US nurses who got ebola weren’t vaccinated. they have both recovered and been released.

    Last but not least, the APPEARANCE of this Ebola “pandemic” (should Americans not catch on) will be used to scare the countless millions into taking an “Ebola vaccine” which in reality is the pandemic. Already they have started with stories of how it has been brought to the U.S. and has appeared in Dallas, how white doctors were cured but black infected are not being allowed to be treated, etc.

    nurse Vinson is black. she caught it in Dallas. she is cured and has been released.

    wake me up when millions are taking the vaccine.

    But something like “Ebola” allows access to an entire area simultaneously… Reason 3: In addition to stealing Nigerian oil..

    Nigeria has been officially declared ebola free by the WHO:

    Nigeria has been declared officially free of Ebola after six weeks with no new cases, the World Health Organization (WHO) says

    so, if the Untied States wanted Niggeria’s oil, why would it allow the WHO to make this declaration?

    normally you make good points, but this time your comments certainly qualify as hysteria.

    kontrahend

    • FincaInTheMountains October 28, 2014 at 10:51 am #

      Yeah, you’re probably right – it is little too much. However it represents a rapidly changing view of US in the world – from “Shiny City on the Hill” to “Biggest Bully on the Block”.

      I mean people are really getting fed up from all that military adventures US gets involved in that always result in destroyed lives, destroyed cities and destroyed infrastructure, and NEVER in “prospering democracy”.

  44. progress4what October 28, 2014 at 9:49 am #

    “Who knows what’s next? It’s amazing what you can do with money in a desperate polity with a few dozen lawyers.” – jhk –

    Absolutely true, JHK, although it does come unusually close to sounding like conspiracy, coming from you. Small groups of brilliantly intelligent (mostly) men are working desperately to enrich themselves by propping up the system. So far, they are succeeding on both counts. Reality, physics, and biology will eventually override the machination of the most intelligent – though no one knows when.

    Keeping one’s powder dry is always wise.

    And thanks for the week’s work, JHK.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 28, 2014 at 1:58 pm #

      Remember, intellectuals tend to hate conspiracy theories because it pulls the rug out from under them. They make a living analyzing the news – or in other words, the world as it seems to be or as it is presented to them. Conspiracy theories deny that the world is the way it seems or the way it is presented to us. People may not like them, but not liking something or being afraid for ones livelihood are not rational arguments.

  45. progress4what October 28, 2014 at 9:51 am #

    “Seems like that country is a slaughterhouse.
    Is this what we can expect here?
    brh”

    Yes.

  46. progress4what October 28, 2014 at 9:59 am #

    “You are marginalized and will soon be forgotten. The future does not belong to white Christian men.” – pk rugsoaker –

    There is no Nation anymore, pk. Your ballyhooed multi-culturalism makes it impossible. Janos, for all his faults, is simply looking ahead to the day when white Christian men become just one more group in your multi-cultural salad.

    Won’t that be some fun times, then? sarc on/off

    • Janos Skorenzy October 28, 2014 at 2:10 pm #

      What faults? That I point out the limitations of the swarthy sacred cows? Let me offer two arguments: one weak and one strong. The weak or sociological: All viable groups think of themselves as special. If a group ceases to think of itself as such, how can it compete with other groups who do? Why would it even bother if everyone is just folks? Needless to say, the Left has pushed this idea relentlessly for just this reason.

      The strong or sociological: science clearly shows great differences in IQ and ability between the Northern Races and the Lotus Eaters who never left the Tropics. It takes a lot of foresight to live in the northern lands – IQ in other words. Besides IQ test, all experience in both the classroom and workplace show this average difference.

      Put these two together and invert them: Whites still feel special – especially guilty because of their success in the competition of life. By and large the Marxists won. Your attitudes are the proof of it even though you are not completely conditioned. And you even consider yourself “conservative” because you aren’t! This serves the Conditioners very well you see. But it’s an illusion: you would be considered a dangerous radical back when America was healthy – and that means back before WW1.

  47. progress4what October 28, 2014 at 10:10 am #

    Excellent website link just below, recommended by none other than the voice of sanity @ ADR, juhana.

    http://theden.tv/

    I must admit that my middle class, middle aged, American eyes read the link as “The den tv,” at first – conjuring up old images of Walter Cronkite and the Watts riots. But the word is actually, “theden.”
    Check it out.

    Backrow, you’ll like some of it a lot. Contrahend, and most of our other CFN regulars, will find valuable insights there as well.

    PK Rugsoaker will hate all of it – which is the highest and best commendation that I can think to offer to the CFN readership.

  48. progress4what October 28, 2014 at 10:30 am #

    Correction –
    When I think of the den tv at my parent’s house, I think of Walter Cronkite and reports from the Viet Nam war. I especially think of those verdamned body counts of the daily KIA totals.

    US – – – 1
    ARVN – 3
    NVA – – – 713

    They kept us thinking the war was a goddam sporting event that we were always winning.

    Damn them all.

    • progress4what October 28, 2014 at 10:34 am #

      And what’s wrong with JHK’s computer/server clock.
      At the time of this post, it’s going to be exactly 10:90.30.
      NSA, what’s up with this?

      • progress4what October 28, 2014 at 10:36 am #

        Freak.
        That was supposed to be 10:09:30.
        My bad.

        And nevertheless, the clock on the CFN server is not right.
        And that’s weird, in this day and age.

        Time now – 10:12

  49. contrahend October 28, 2014 at 12:11 pm #

    “The future does not belong to white Christian men.”

    why can’t everyone be included in the rainbow?

    what’s wrong with being white, and what’s wrong with being christian?

    funny how the folks that scream you must tolerate/accept everybody, no matter what their stripe, don’t accept white christians.

    kind of shows them to be the liars they are.

    kontrahend

  50. pkrugman October 28, 2014 at 2:41 pm #

    “PK Rugsoaker will hate all of it – which is the highest and best commendation that I can think to offer to the CFN readership.” — P4W

    Once I discovered the racist nature of the site it did not suprise me that you are recommending it to CFN.

    theden.tv (the den of transvestites?) represents the thinking of dead White European Men of a Dead Tradition who do not embrace Black Egyptian civilization, Muslim civilization, Judaism, or post-modern European contributions. Theirs is a world that no longer exists. Today’s world is globalist and progressive and values equality, democracy, multiculturalism, feminism, globalism, Afro-centrism, post-modernism, Muslim and Jewish contributions, etc. as well as the non-racist, non-colonialist, and non-imperialist white contributions.

    The European Traditionalists of theden.tv (the den of transvestites?) are mired in the intrigue, the conspiracies and the nonsense of their dark European past: Greek magical papyri to the Castle of the Grail. Astrology, alchemy, ceremonial magic, divine kingship, “secret” masters of the earth, the Grail, the Solar Tradition, the gothic cathedrals, the mystery of Rennes-le-Chateau, unseen orders guiding human history, central “seats” of power, sacred sites, invisible domains, etc. all combined with a mixture of Aryan supremacism and eugenics.

    Those behind theden.tv are anti-modern, anti-liberal, anti-democratic, and anti-international reactionaries who cannot accept the world has changed, who deny the United States is a Nation, and who fear trans-national initiatives like the United Nations. Where they go wrong is believing multi-cultural and multi-ethnic society means the death of the Nation, the ‘decline of the West’ — the belief that Western civilization is in a state of inevitable and irreversible decline, so that we can only expect an eventual collapse and a return to barbarism. Ain’t gonna happen. The long-term historical trends are just the opposite: progress. Progress for what: for the freedom of all cultures to live together in harmony and equality without any one group dominating others: without white colonialism, without white imperialism, and without white racism.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 28, 2014 at 6:56 pm #

      I just went to the site and didn’t see any of that mystical stuff – just intelligent commentary on the stories and issues of the day and times. Good one on a young Englishman who went to jail for calling a Jewish politician a Jew. Obviously the Elite see this as far more serious than the rape and the forced sexual servitude of 1400 English girls in Rotterham by Muslims. One girl related how the police arrested her for drunkenness when she was 14 – but let her two adult male Muslim companions walk free.

      • Buck Stud October 28, 2014 at 11:43 pm #

        Gothic architecture is not mystical. On more than one occasion I posted writings from John Ruskin on the true spirit of the Gothic but apparently nobody cares one way or the other.

        Suffice to say true Gothic architecture was about everyday workman and carvers carving beautiful foliage into rugged oak…straight from the chisel and in one shot without pretense or fiddling.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 29, 2014 at 2:02 am #

          I read a Ruskin essay you linked to – it was great. Anyway, you are obviously obsessed with the Gothic Cathedrals. You know in your heart that there is something more to them, but you can’t enter into the mystery so you assert the opposite in despair. Perhaps this famous book will help you understand – it was too much for me, but perhaps you will do better.

          http://www.amazon.com/Fulcanelli-Alchemist-Cathedrales-Esoteric-Intrepretation/dp/0914732145/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1414560498&sr=1-1&keywords=the+mystery+of+the+cathedrals

          Also the esotericist Schwall-Lubicz (or was it his wife?) wrote a novel about the Compagnons that you might like.

          • Buck Stud October 29, 2014 at 4:04 pm #

            Thank you for the link; I will check it out later tonight,

            I probably exaggerated regarding the absence of mysticism but i was responding more to pk rugman assertions. To me the mysticism resides in the phenomenology of actually being in a Gothic Cathedral; the way light merges with stained glass and the accompaniment of music/chants and how that makes an individual feel. A Muslim from the Middle East, a Chinese or African–all would be moved by the phenomenology of a Gothic Cathedral if their mind/heart is in the right place. So the ‘mysticism’ is more universal in the same way that an American might find Iranian music beautiful. Of course true aesthetes are rare in any culture so most just like what they are exposed to.

            John Ruskin in the link at the bottom of post asserts that true Gothic is devoid of the deleterious mysticism that he claims infected East Indian art in a manner ironically similar to pk rugman’s claim against the Gothic etc.

            “Your patriotic associations with i tare of no use; your romantic associations with it–either of chivalry or religion–are of no use; they are worse than useless, they are
            false. Gothic is not an art for knights and nobles; it is an art for the people: it is not an art for churches or sanctuaries; it is an art for houses and homes: it is not an art for England only, but an art for the world: above all, it is not an art of form or tradition only, but an art of vital practice and perpetual renewal. And whosoever pleads for it as an ancient or a formal thing, and tries to teach it you as an
            ecclesiastical tradition or a geometrical science, knows nothing of its essence, less than nothing of its power.”

            http://www.readbookonline.net/read/2781/11997/

  51. pkrugman October 28, 2014 at 2:58 pm #

    “The future does not belong to white Christian men.” why can’t everyone be included in the rainbow? — Contrahend

    Everyone, including white christians, can be included in the rainbow — on an equal basis.

    “The future does not belong to white christian men” means white privilege is over, white domination is over, white segregation is over.

    Women and people of color are going to have just as much say and just as much power as whites have had, but people of color will learn from whites and not commit the mistake of slavery as whites did.

    Whites will be respected. Christians will be respected. But not at the expense of every other race and religion as in the past. It’s a rainbow.

    People of color are not the “white man’s burden” … We have created (in the United States, in Canada, etc.) a beautiful rainbow where whites are included … but it won’t “belong” to them, they won’t be running (ruining?) an entire segregated show like they did for 500 years recently. Whites are now more humble, and are learning from non-white cultures, and we are all living together… Comprende?

  52. contrahend October 28, 2014 at 3:36 pm #

    People of color are not the “white man’s burden” … We have created (in the United States, in Canada, etc.) a beautiful rainbow where whites are included … but it won’t “belong” to them, they won’t be running (ruining?) an entire segregated show like they did for 500 years recently. Whites are now more humble, and are learning from non-white cultures, and we are all living together… Comprende?

    Yep you’re coming in loud and clear. Whites are to be ‘tolerated’.

    Why don’t you just come out and say you’re a bloody racist, and be honest about it?

    I have more respect for Janos, though I don’t agree with 99% of what he says.

    By the way, it’s 2014, not 1963. No such thing as an ‘entire segregated show’ any more. Mainly because whites supported equal rights in large numbers. You know, that (in our case, inherited) Anglo respect for the law and fairness. Look at the marchers in the old films, you’ll see plenty of evil whites there doing the right thing.

    But it’s become a big grab bag of power and goodies instead, for minorities. Pathetic.

    kontrahend

    disclosure- white, married to a negruh. so don’t come back with the raciss kard.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 28, 2014 at 7:01 pm #

      You have cast your seed into an alien womb. You must be prepared for some strange fruits. Firstly, the child wont look like you and in fact, wont be like you since White traits are recessive. Here’s a good meditation: I, and any other White on this site, am closer to you genetically (and with that add all the psychological traits that are genetic) than your son or daughter will be with this woman.

  53. pkrugman October 28, 2014 at 4:09 pm #

    Look at the marchers in the old films, you’ll see plenty of evil whites there doing the right thing. But it’s become a big grab bag of power and goodies instead, for minorities. Pathetic.

    I have seen those films in which a small number of whites marched. Whites are not “evil” … racism is evil. What you call a grab bag is simply non-whites getting a little bit of power and goodies, which they marched and schooled and worked hard for. Your resentment is pathetic.

    Most of the last 500 years was segregated, a reign of white terror. We have progressed beyond that. If non-whites thought to repeat white racist behavior, that would show no progress. But non-whites are not aiming for a segregated system of enslavement of whites. That means there has been progress which transcends the immorality of the past. A rainbow is where all have opportunities.

    A racist like Janos wants white separatism. I want integration of all races.

    Janos denies Blacks have made contributions as valuable as whites. I recognize Blacks as equals.

    Janos is not interested in a rainbow society. I want a rainbow that includes Black, white, red and yellow.

    Janos denigrates Blacks today … and in the past, denying Black contributions to humanity. I criticize white enforcement of segregation in the past and accept whites have made valuable contributions from both past and present.

    Janos wants to institutionalize racism. He liked Jim Crow’s “separate but equal” … My attack is on institutionalized racism, which we are overcoming. Without whites Obama could not have been elected twice.

    Janos says Blacks are inferior to whites. I say all races are equally valuable and have unique contributions to make.

    One of us is racist.

    We don’t have to love each other… but you are right that we do have to tolerate each other. That is not racist: It is the law of the land. (Janos prefers the law of the jungle and believes might makes right).

    • Janos Skorenzy October 28, 2014 at 6:37 pm #

      Do you really think it’s working out in South Africa? Oceans of sweet words were uttered and written, but Black resentment and savagery are the reality that can’t be erased – except by the slow hand of evolution. Countless Whites have been assaulted, raped, driven off their land, and/or slaughtered. The future of South Africa is the present of Zimbabwe – where all this has already come to pass.

  54. FincaInTheMountains October 28, 2014 at 6:11 pm #

    Triffin dilemma
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triffin_dilemma

    The Triffin dilemma or paradox is the conflict of economic interests that arises between short-term domestic and long-term international objectives when a national currency also serves as a world reserve currency. The dilemma of choosing between these objectives was first identified in the 1960s by Belgian-American economist Robert Triffin. He pointed out that the country whose currency, being the global reserve currency, foreign nations wish to hold, must be willing to supply the world with an extra supply of its currency to fulfill world demand for these foreign exchange reserves, and thus cause a trade deficit.

    The use of a national currency, e.g., the U.S. dollar, as global reserve currency leads to tension between its national and global monetary policy. This is reflected in fundamental imbalances in the balance of payments, specifically the current account: some goals require an overall flow of dollars out of the United States, while others require an overall flow of dollars into the United States.
    ===========================================

    Basically, to go back to being industrial superpower again, the US Dollar must loose its status of the reserved currency. May be it is worth a shot?

  55. FincaInTheMountains October 28, 2014 at 6:48 pm #

    Dutch authorities will contact Russia “to see if they have any information that’s of importance” in the MH17 crash probe.

    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/dutch-ask-russia-for/1440158.html

    THE HAGUE: Dutch investigators will ask Russia for evidence including of Ukranian jet fighter activity which Moscow points as the cause of the fatal MH17 air crash, prosecutors said on Tuesday (Oct 28).

    Isn’t it a high friggin time they finally looked into Russian military tapes of air surveillance at the time somebody killed 300 passengers?

  56. pkrugman October 28, 2014 at 7:11 pm #

    “Do you really think it’s working out in South Africa?” — Janos

    Yes, Janos, it is working out.

    Blacks were systematically excluded from power for a century. Even though apartheid ended in 1994 whites still run the economy. Whites still have a disproportionate amount of influence in politics and the media. Whites still have the best houses and most of the best jobs.

    You are probably reading racist propaganda that exaggerates isolated incidents of violence and they cries about “white extermination” … crying because whites don’t have everything anymore. They have to share with “coloureds”… Boo hoo.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 28, 2014 at 7:46 pm #

      So even more Whites have to ruined to build your Black House of Horror. You should be made to live in Jo’burg – and not in an upper class White neighborhood either.

      • FincaInTheMountains October 28, 2014 at 8:15 pm #

        Janos, you should really lay off that black-white shit for a while. Come here to my Island, get laid with nice negro-latin girl, relax.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 28, 2014 at 9:12 pm #

          Sure, relax, mix, devolve, die. One of the Fathers of the European Union called for Whites to be bred out of existence and said the Europeans of the future would be half Negro – looking like the ancient Egyptians. All except the Jews who would remain pure and be the leaders. Needless to say, the Jews loved this man (himself a half Japanese nobleman) and funded him. In fact, it is said he got this idea from a Jewish girlfriend in his youth.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nikolaus_von_Coudenhove-Kalergi#Views_on_race_and_religion

          Why are pure breed dogs more valuable than mutts? Why are White children in demand for adoption, and Blacks not? Why do hip multicultural loving Feminists choose tall Blonde Men for their sperm donors? I await your answer. If you answer incorrectly, I will correct you.

  57. FincaInTheMountains October 28, 2014 at 7:26 pm #

    Russian economists view prospects of American Manufacturing in a positive way
    http://expert.ru/2014/10/28/tolchok-dlya-promyishlennosti/

    The index of manufacturing utilization stands in 2014 at 6-year high – 70.3%, still lower than the all-time high of 80.2%. However, it is a very good indicator of growth of investments into US Manufacturing sector.

    The article also emphasizes priority of investments in innovative areas of manufacturing as well as preparing qualified professionals.

    Manufacturing sector in US was adding jobs 15 months out the consecutive 16 months in a row.

  58. progress4what October 28, 2014 at 9:06 pm #

    “As usual in league unfortunately even with groups who should know better like Greenpeace or the Sierra Club all the purveyors of the idea that solar or wind energy can provide all the US hoggish energy needs are shouting in the wind. The main energy hog they ignore is transportation ie “Happy Motoring” which represents over 35% of US….” – orbit7er –

    Well, “Happy Motoring” hasn’t been that happy in quite some time. Most transportation fuel in the US is today burned people back and forth to employment, or moving food and manufactured goods from point to point.

    And I don’t know about Greenpeace, but the Sierra Club sold out the environment of the United States years ago – when they accepted a large donation and agreed to lobby for near unlimited US population growth due to LEGAL and illegal immigration.

    http://www.susps.org/

    Anyone here who’s a member of the Sierra Club should quit.
    IMO, the only US environment that the Sierra Club truly cares about is the air conditioned environment of their plush corporate offices.

  59. pkrugman October 28, 2014 at 9:09 pm #

    Instead of fear and quarantine, Obama is showing real leadership, Janos. Do you believe Obama is putting himself at risk? Or do you understand Ebola is not as contagious, nor as deadly, as influenza?

    “Obama also said he would meet Wednesday with health care workers en route to and returning from West Africa “not only to say thank you to them and give them encouragement, but to make sure we’re getting input from them, based on the science, based on the facts, based on experience, about how the battle to deal with Ebola is going and how our policies can support the incredible heroism that they are showing.”

    Several times in recent weeks, Obama has gone out of his way to make personal contact with nurses caring for Ebola patients, going so far as to hug and kiss them to show he’s not afraid of catching Ebola.

    It has been 13 days since the government last confirmed a person had contracted Ebola on U.S. soil, but the political response has only escalated since then.”

    Some pandemic…

    Yet some racists call for closing borders to West Africans, governors want to put people in quarantine, and CFN floats conspiracy theories about Ebola being an intentional way to wipe out citizens…. incredible!

    • Janos Skorenzy October 28, 2014 at 9:19 pm #

      That you are against quarantine is itself proof that it is the right thing to do.

      If you win a big lottery, you become rich or at least richer. Obama denies that winning the Ebola Lottery will make us richer. He denies that bringing Ebola here increases the risk to America. In essence, Obama says 1+1=1. Or even that 1+100=1

  60. pkrugman October 28, 2014 at 9:14 pm #

    “Sierra Club … agreed to lobby for near unlimited US population growth due to LEGAL and illegal immigration.” — P4W

    Is this true, P4W? Maybe I should join Sierra Club!

    🙂

    Existing limited brain trust of 315 million does not appear to be sufficient. Closing borders will not help. Quarantine will not help. Voter suppression will not help. Calling our president names will not help. Stocking gold, ammo, and food will not help.

    The United States population density is very low. We can handle unlimited population growth. More brains to solve our problems.

  61. progress4what October 28, 2014 at 9:22 pm #

    “theden.tv (the den of transvestites?) represents the thinking of dead White men….” – pkrugman uses a gender slur –

    “The European Traditionalists of theden.tv (the den of transvestites?) are mired in the intrigue….”
    – pkrugman doubles down on the gender slurs –

    Wow! Something must be upsetting you, pk. I’ve never even noticed you mentioning sex or sexual orientation much at all. And suddenly, you come up with two nasty trans-gender-phobic slurs in the same post. Amazing.

    True to form, though, you call “racist” on any point of view or any website with which you disagree – while also demonstrating that you really didn’t read much of anything at theden.tv. Which makes you a bit of a resident impediment, doesn’t it?

    =========================

    Tell you what, why don’t you go through this article carefully, and then the entire website, and then apologize because there is nothing racist about it all.

    http://theden.tv/2013/11/22/3-reasons-diversity-isnt-working/

  62. Pucker October 28, 2014 at 10:17 pm #

    The Constitutional role of the Executive Branch and the US President is to execute or enforce the law. I’m wondering in light of Erich Holder’s admitted refusal to enforce the law against Wall Street banks and others whether Obama shouldn’t be impeached?

    • FincaInTheMountains October 29, 2014 at 7:18 am #

      More importantly before impeaching Obama you have to weaken or crush hold that Wall Street Cartel Banks (or Too Big To Fail) are having on the power structure of United States – they are financing the “Deep State” or “Shadow Government”.

      1. Put Cartel Banks through bankruptcy by reinstating the Glass Steagall law of 1933 passed by Roosevelt administration.

      2. Impose a 1% sales tax on all purchases and sell of securities (Tobin Tax) to curb rampant speculation and to boost the US budget.

      For instance, the state of New York has a law on the books that taxes financial institutions on total amount of purchase/sell of securities. And guess what, every year state of New York reimburses the Wall Street on that tax, allegedly to keep the business as if they have other place to go.

      I really don’t understand – for instance the reason why Russia boosted the country budget and increased fourfold the level of living is by taxing the main area that generates foreign currency – the oil and gas sales.
      Why can’t United States do the same thing and boost the budget and overall level of prosperity by taxing the main business activity – speculation in securities?

  63. FincaInTheMountains October 29, 2014 at 6:47 am #

    Antares Rocket explosion in Virginia and “Sustained Cyber-Attack” on the White House command-and-control system follow the snow plow accident in Moscow’s Vnukovo airport that killed Christophe de Margerie, the chief executive of the French oil company Total.

    Pure coincidence? Reciprocity is the main principle of international relationships.

    Do we really need this? How about bypassing the whole pleasantries of WWIII and going straight to Yalta and Breton Woods conferences?

  64. FincaInTheMountains October 29, 2014 at 7:49 am #

    Just found out – it turns out that Antares Rocket is a joint American-Ukrainian project – the first stage of the rocket is developed and manufactured in Ukraine:

    Rocket carrier co-developed by Ukrainians successfully launched in USA.
    http://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/op-ed/good-news-ukraine-blog-53-356904.html?flavour=mobile

    July 13, 2014 Antares rocket carrier designed jointly with Ukrainian state enterprise ‘KB ‘Yuzhnoye’ was successfully launched at Flight Facility on the East Coast, Virginia, USA.

    Antares will deliver to the International Space Station Cygnus satellite weighing over 1,5 ton that will bring to the station nearly 1.5 tons of scientific equipment and food for astronauts.

    You guys REALLY know how to pick up the partners – first Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, ISIS in Syria, now Ukrainians in Virginia.

    I wonder which stage has blown off?

  65. BackRowHeckler October 29, 2014 at 8:36 am #

    An article in WSJ, ostensibly about prices of Hampton summer ‘cottages’ in the stratosphere, reveals astronomical salaries being pulled down by Wall Street employees, plus Christmas bonuses that last year averaged $165,000.

    I don’t know anything about macro economics, but its hard for me to square JHKs claim of lack of capital formation for large projects (such as oil exploration) with what I see going on around here. For example, State U just completed a basketball practice arena — just for practice — cost: $250 million. A stadium for basketball was built on campus in 1992 but has since been labeled obsolete; a new one is planned that has a $1 billion pricetag, no problem. In Hartford, one of the poorest cities in North America, with 90% of the population on welfare, a new minor league baseball complex with shopping amenities and restaurants is going ahead, this one costing $350 million but critics say the final tally might exceed $1 billion before alls said and done.

    We recently found out in the meadows in our neighborhood, probably some of the best black soil farmland on the east coast, a developer is building 6 McMansions with starting price of $1.2 million

    This is not to mention new $50 million High Schools and HS sports stadiums being announced every week. Add that on top of the almost 1 million people on some form of state welfare for basic necessities such as food and shelter, and more arriving every day into ‘sanctuary cities’ from all over the 3rd world.

    It appears on the surface there is plenty of capital for all kinds of stupid and unnecessary sh#t, maybe too much capital instead of not enough. That’s how it seems to me, anyway. Admittedly, economics is not something I know much about.

    brh

  66. BackRowHeckler October 29, 2014 at 9:08 am #

    Pretty good program last nite on PBS, part of the POV series.

    ‘The Rise of ISIS’

    Rooted in tribalism and the ‘Sunni vs Shia’ conflict, now morphed into something terrible and amoral.

    Go Royals!!

    brh

  67. pkrugman October 29, 2014 at 1:14 pm #

    “why don’t you go through this article carefully” — P4W

    Why don’t you just tell me what it says? I cannot access the article without giving my email address, which I prefer not to do since the people behind the site do not provide any public information about themselves.

    Countries with lots of diversity, like Canada and USA, are rich. Bolivia, one of the world’s poorer countries, is also one of the most genetically homogenous. I suspect the your motivation for your focus on racial diversity.

    Your whole project, P4W, of criticizing diversity is racist.

    What do you want? You want to separate the races? Separate drinking fountains? Separate schools? Separate swimming pools? Separate neighborhoods?

    No, wait… we tried that. It was called Jim Crow and it was racist.

  68. Janos Skorenzy October 29, 2014 at 2:49 pm #

    Capitalism and Communism are just opposite sides of the same materialistic coin. And Socialism? The same coin sitting uneasily on its edge. The answer is economics from a higher point of view – for the People and the Nation.

    http://www.counter-currents.com/2014/10/kerry-boltons-the-banking-swindle/

  69. progress4what October 29, 2014 at 4:20 pm #

    “….criticizing diversity is racist.” – pk rugsoaker –

    That sums you up, pk. Any thought with which you disagree is racist.

    Next.

    And, btw, there’s something wrong with you or your computer if you cannot access that website. It’s 100% public and unrestricted – no login required.

    Here’s another article. No racism in this one either. See a pattern?
    http://theden.tv/2014/10/26/the-long-slow-collapse-what-whig-history-cant-explain

  70. pkrugman October 29, 2014 at 5:15 pm #

    “And, btw, there’s something wrong with you or your computer if you cannot access that website. It’s 100% public and unrestricted – no login required.”

    That is not my experience, or perhaps racist sites have blocked my computer. I get this message.

    You don’t have permission to access /2014/10/26/the-long-slow-collapse-what-whig-history-cant-explain on this server.
    Apache/2.2.22 (Debian) Server at theden.tv

    • progress4what October 29, 2014 at 5:41 pm #

      That’s amazing. Your mind is so closed it has affected your computer.

      Anybody else having trouble accessing the website in question?

      Didn’t think so.

  71. Pucker October 29, 2014 at 7:18 pm #

    I think that it was the Clint Eastwood movie “High Plains Drifter” wherein the sheriff of the town of “Lago” refuses to enforce the law largely due to incompetence and cowardice. This eventually becomes a problem for the corrupt mining company running the town as the countdown to the release from prison of the outlaw gang intent on reaping vengence on the town approaches. So the mining company executives hire the mysterious stranger gunslinger (Clint Eastwood) to protest their interests. In the end, Clint Eastwood f….cks all the women in Lago and burns down the town.

    This may be the future of the U.S., unless they impeach Obama.

    I wonder want the name “Lago” means?

    • Janos Skorenzy October 29, 2014 at 11:03 pm #

      It refers to Lagos perhaps, the capital of Nigeria. These movies were meant for soft and indirect programing, the spade work or rough hewing. Finish the cult of Macho Masculine Individualism (which most men can’t live up to thus invoking its opposite) which when attained prevents men from acting together against collective evil or other groups.

  72. pkrugman October 29, 2014 at 7:26 pm #

    “This may be the future of the U.S., unless they impeach Obama.” — Pucker

    Right. Obama is the problem. If we just get rid of Obama, things can go back to like they were in the 1950s when Blacks knew their place.

    /sarcasm off

  73. pkrugman October 29, 2014 at 8:51 pm #

    Asian on first. White pitching. Black batting.

    3 Reasons Diversity Works…

    God Bless USA Diversity!

    Go Giants!

    • Janos Skorenzy October 30, 2014 at 12:36 am #

      Followed your recommendation for the frying pan: it worked. Thanks. Everyone else thought I was B essing or being allegorical. Only you knew me well enough to know I really wanted to know. You are probably capable of reading poetry as well since keeping both levels in mind simultaneously is the key to this.

      You epitomize the quality of empathy sans sympathy. It makes you a fine instrument indeed for your Master’s hand. Most Americans have sympathy without empathy – bizarre do gooders liable to kill you as they try to help. Goobers perfectly willing to give away the store to people who hate them. They haven’t the foggiest notion of what their compassion object is feeling about them.

  74. Pucker October 29, 2014 at 10:34 pm #

    Are we going to miss trick-or-treating this year again waiting up late for The Great Pumpkin?

  75. pkrugman October 29, 2014 at 11:10 pm #

    A candidate CFN racists like Janos and P4W could support:

    “South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, who is toying with the idea of a presidential bid, joked in a private gathering this month that “white men who are in male-only clubs are going to do great in my presidency,” according to an audio recording of his comments provided to CNN.”

    • nsa October 30, 2014 at 12:24 am #

      Dame Lindsey is one of your crowd….a homo. Now do you get the “male only clubs” reference?

  76. Pucker October 29, 2014 at 11:19 pm #

    Would Albert Einstein agree with the following statement?: “Time is money.”

  77. Pucker October 30, 2014 at 1:13 am #

    Why is it that people don’t believe in Santa Claus, but they do believe in everything else?

  78. FincaInTheMountains October 30, 2014 at 7:42 am #

    1.2 million sq.km, 5 billion tons of fuel: Russia to apply for Arctic shelf expansion

    http://rt.com/news/200555-ussia-arctic-shelf-un/

    Russia will address the UN on the expansion of its Arctic shelf next spring. If successful the move would see the country adding an area of 1.2 million sq. kilometers in the Arctic Ocean, holding 5 billion tons of standard fuel, to its territory.
    =================================================

    I guess in case Russia does not succeed and “international community” (e.g. United states with bunch of vassal countries) will reject the claim, Russia is rapidly expanding its military presence in Arctic.

    To compare how big the area is, here are some facts:

    France – 547,660 sq.km
    USA – 9,850,000 sq,km
    Russia – 16,377,742 sq.km

    So Russia is planning to add 2 Frances to its territory.

    Other advantage of the Arctic is that due to rapidly melting Arctic ice, it provides the shortest sea route from Asia to Europe, cutting about 4,000 nautical miles from the traditional route through Suez Canal, opening real possibility of new Silk Road.

    • Buck Stud October 30, 2014 at 1:34 pm #

      I can’t imagine that the U.S., Britain or most of Western Europe would sign on on this application, especially in light of recent events? I could see the application being turned into the equivalent of a personal injury suit in the U.S where medical ‘experts’ basically contradict each other according to whom they represent.

      Having wrote that, I have no idea how the UN works in terms of the application you mention but it’s not hard for me to envision a scenario where the U.S. brings in their own scientific/geology experts to dispute Russia’s claim and basically put the application on hold, or better yet, rejected altogether. And of course, U.S. oil companies parking in the very land Russia failed to add.

      There is still more than a J.R. Ewing or two calling the shots in the U.S. and probably the UN as well.

      • FincaInTheMountains October 30, 2014 at 2:18 pm #

        “And of course, U.S. oil companies parking in the very land Russia failed to add”

        That would be a little hard to do with overwhelming presence of Russian Arctic Command and military bases being beefed up as we speak.

        Besides, they always have an option to declare the population of Polar Bears as of “Russian cultural heritage” with necessity to protect from “foreign eagles”.

  79. FincaInTheMountains October 30, 2014 at 7:50 am #

    Google goes into Nano-Business????!!!!

    Google’s Newest Search: Cancer Cells
    http://online.wsj.com/articles/google-designing-nanoparticles-to-patrol-human-body-for-disease-1414515602

    Google Inc. is designing tiny magnetic particles to patrol the human body for signs of cancer and other diseases, in the latest example of the Internet giant’s sweeping ambition.
    ===================================================

    Well, I guess better application of Google employees creative skills than snooping around for our private information and shopping habits.

  80. FincaInTheMountains October 30, 2014 at 8:15 am #

    Doomers are wrong – we are NOT going to see the End of The World any time soon

    In just couple of years we are going to enter a new long wave of technological development based on Nano Technologies and Nuclear Energy.

    The best part that this wave will have very little application in military, mostly in human-related sciences – medicine, education, social sciences.

    World will restore a healthy competition (not military, but scientific, technological and economic) between various world regions: Americas region with center in United States, European with center in Germany, Asian-Pacific with center in China and the world’s Heartland – Euro Asian Union with center in Russia and capital in Moscow or Kiev.

    Current parasitical financial system is doomed, and will be sooner or later replaced with more fair multicentral financial systems with 4-5 regional currency emission centers.

    Of course it will be somewhat the End Of The World to Parasitical Finance International with center in London and Zurich and may be they are the one who are currently sponsoring various End-Of-The-World theories. various Alex Joneses, Renses, Peter Schiffs. and Jim Willies.

    • progress4what October 30, 2014 at 9:22 am #

      That doesn’t sound too bad, fincain, especially compared to some of the other “collapse” options that come to mind.

      Of course, here in the States, anything that interrupts the flow of food and electricity to densely populated areas, for more than a week or so, would tend to look and feel like Death to the unlucky participants.

      You pays your money and you takes your choice, I suppose.

      • FincaInTheMountains October 30, 2014 at 9:35 am #

        Changes in long waves of development always are accompanied with bigger (like World War I and II) or smaller (Pick of Cold War and destruction of the Soviet Union) social upheavals – just nature of things I guess.

        Last time during the destruction of USSR by London’s agent Gorbachev and corrupted Soviet elites it felt like hell in Russia, but it was an incredible boom in USA due to looting of Soviet inheritance and incorporating of entire East Europe into dollar-centric system.

        This time around US may not get away with painful changes that easy, but still will definitely overcome them.

  81. ZrCrypDiK October 30, 2014 at 9:32 am #

    WoWzerz, cra-Z sockies – “infested.” Why do you let it happen? R U the “sockiez”?!? Mega-YES suspicion there.

    Maychance you should just turn off new poasts after the first day?!… Heh. I mean, it’s pretty much *UNREADABLE* after that (thx guyz/6-fig [salaried] govt trolls/stalkaz)…

    PS – how about Herbert and Keiser? Excellent show last Tue.

    • progress4what October 30, 2014 at 9:39 am #

      Nah, I’m just me, killing a little time and still trying to learn stuff.

      Wonder where Cold N. Holdfield has gone? Wonder if JHK banned him? Some of his stuff was pretty good. I wonder if he was trying to impersonate Q-stick? I wonder if JHK banned him for running two commenter ID’s from the same IP address?

      Just wondering, you know? Anybody have any ideas?

      • ZrCrypDiK October 30, 2014 at 9:50 am #

        I expected as much.

        NUTHIN ’bout Max or Stacy.

        C’est tout!!!

  82. progress4what October 30, 2014 at 9:33 am #

    First of all, Lindsey Graham would be a terrible choice as a presidential candidate. He’s to much of an insider, too prone to compromise, too weak on immigration, etc. etc. Therefore, anything that eliminates him as a candidate is a good thing, IMO.

    That said, the thing that PK Rugsoaker posted seems out of context. Graham was making a joke deliberately @ the expense of all-white-male clubs. He also made a deliberate joke @ the expense of Baptists. In context, it’s doubtful that either joke will be a game-changer – except to the severely humor-impaired or to those who see “racists” behind every rock, tree, and person with whom they disagree.

    “Graham said he was making fun of the society’s all-male membership, joking that they were the last such organization in existence after Augusta National Golf Club admitted women.
    As for the Baptist riff, Graham said he regularly teases South Carolina audiences about their various religious denominations, before making a larger point about religious liberty in the United States and warning about the threat of radical Islam overseas.”
    – source, CNN –

  83. FincaInTheMountains October 30, 2014 at 1:57 pm #

    Dick Measuring Contest

    A successful launch of Russian space cargo ship “Progress” just hours after disaster of American Antares Rocket in Virginia is egg in the face for American sanctions against Russian RosCosmos, writes German publication “Das Erste”.

    Rumor has it that it could be a possible retaliation for resent disaster of “Proton” rocket with 3 Russian military satellites, supposedly caused by sabotage.

    Russians also have reported about successful exercise of inter-continental missile “Bulava” launched from a submarine in Sea of Barents.

  84. Janos Skorenzy October 30, 2014 at 2:28 pm #

    People finally waking up about Israel – sick of fighting their wars. If Israel wants to crush Iran, then let them. They might be able to – but not without cost. But leave us out of it.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/benjamin-netanyahu-is-a-chickenst-prime-minister-and-coward-says-us-official-9824745.html

    In other news, Sweden recognizes Palestine as a state. Israel shouldn’t have started building more units on Palestinian land. You have no one to blame but yourselves.

    • BackRowHeckler October 30, 2014 at 3:52 pm #

      Hey Vlad, ISIS is cutting off heads, raping and eviscerating Christian girls, shooting people by the hundreds, burying women alive in front of their families, nailing people to the cross … and you’re criticizing Israel for building a few houses? For Chrissakes wake up!

      brh

      • BackRowHeckler October 30, 2014 at 3:57 pm #

        Also Vlad, what wars did we fight for Israel? Israel has fought its own wars since 1948. Israel has never asked us to intervene and we have never intervened. You’re just making sh#t up.

        –brh

        • Janos Skorenzy October 30, 2014 at 6:56 pm #

          You need to read the Project for a New American Century. Our war in Iraq was and is for Israel at least partially.

          You are also forgetting about the billions we give them every year.

    • BackRowHeckler October 30, 2014 at 5:33 pm #

      Screw Sweden. Sweden will joining the Caliphate pretty soon anyway. Then Mustafa will be chasing the last white man thru Stockholm, clutching a machete, hell bent on cutting off his head.

  85. BackRowHeckler October 30, 2014 at 3:48 pm #

    “What happened to Cole Holfield” P2C

    I don’t know, maybe he just got tired of this place.

    He was an interesting character, hard as nails.

    brh

  86. pkrugman October 30, 2014 at 5:51 pm #

    “Dame Lindsey is one of your crowd….a homo.” — nsa

    Sorry to delay in answering you. I was out buying an Apple iPhone to celebrate Mr. Cook publicly coming out of the closet.

    Interesting how the Republicans and Tea Partiers are no longer whining about “the gay agenda.” They are changing their tune and supporting gays. Next up: acceptance of transgendered individuals.

    The USA is a great country: multicultural and multi-sexual. God loves the USA. Diversity is strength.

    God showed acceptance of different races and lifestyles by letting San Francisco win the World Series. The Catholic Pope is right about God.

    Things are getting better all the time. For example: being a Black woman in the 1950s … compared to being a Black woman now. Things are much better now.

  87. pkrugman October 30, 2014 at 6:01 pm #

    I wonder if he was trying to impersonate Q-stick? — P4W

    Of course he was. Q has been dead for a while now. The tone of the writing by Holefield did not even come close to that of the late Qshtik. (may the peace of Allah be upon him)

    “It is time for parents to teach young people early on that in diversity there is beauty and there is strength.” – Maya Angelou

    “We inhabit a universe that is characterized by diversity.” – Desmond Tutu

    “Thanks to the diversity of Black moral intelligence we shall overcome.” – P.K. Rugman

    • Janos Skorenzy October 30, 2014 at 10:20 pm #

      Hah! “Black Moral Intelligence”! Even you can’t say that with a straight face. It is so gay….

  88. pkrugman October 30, 2014 at 7:33 pm #

    Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said that she is often asked how many women on the Supreme Court would be “enough.”

    Her answer? “When there are nine.”

    “For most of the country’s history, there were nine and they were all men. Nobody thought that was strange,” she explained.

    Nine women on the Supreme Court would not be strange, especially if they were vetted and approved by Congress. I can’t wait. At least a hundred years of all women justices would be required to balance things out.

    • progress4what October 30, 2014 at 8:35 pm #

      You see, pk, there’s your problem. You and yours will never be satisfied with any reasonable compromise. We have to have 9 female SCOTUS judges for 100 years. And then you’d want 100 more years, and 1,000 more years of affirmative action, 1 billion people in the US, etc, etc, world without end, amen.

      Always to excess, just like this immigrant thing:

      “based on survey data from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, indicated that 6.4 percent of all non-citizens voted illegally in the 2008 presidential election, and 2.2 percent in the 2010 midterms….” http://www.nationalreview.com/article/391474/non-citizens-are-voting-john-fund

    • Janos Skorenzy October 30, 2014 at 10:25 pm #

      Do all nine ring wraiths have to be Jewish as well as being women?

  89. progress4what October 30, 2014 at 8:44 pm #

    The coach had put together the perfect team for the Detroit Lions. The only thing that was missing was a good quarterback. He had scouted all the colleges and even the Canadian and European Leagues, but he couldn’t find a ringer who could ensure a Super Bowl win.

    Then one night while watching CNN he saw a war-zone scene in Afghanistan . In one corner of the background, he spotted a young Afghan Muslim soldier with a truly incredible arm. He threw a hand-grenade straight into a 5th story window 100 yards away.
    KABOOM!
    He threw another hand-grenade 75 yards, right into a chimney.
    KA-BLOOEY!
    Then he threw another at a passing car going 90 mph.
    BULLS-EYE!

    “I’ve got to get this guy!” Coach said to himself. “He has the perfect arm!”

    So, he brings him to the States and teaches him the great game of football. And the Lions go on to win the Super Bowl. The young Afghan is hailed as the great hero of football, and when the coach asks him what he wants, all the young man wants is to call his mother.

    “Mom,” he says into the phone, “I just won the Super Bowl!”

    “I don’t want to talk to you, the old Muslim woman says. “You deserted us. You are not my son!”

    “I don’t think you understand, Mother,” the young man pleads “I’ve won the greatest sporting event in the world. I’m here among thousands of my adoring fans.”

    No! Let me tell you!” his mother retorts. “At this very moment, there are gunshots all around us. The neighborhood is a pile of rubble. Your two brothers were beaten within an inch of their lives last week, and I have to keep your sister in the house so she doesn’t get raped!” The old lady pauses, and then tearfully says,

    “I will never forgive you for making us move to Detroit!”

    And that’s what happens when things go to excess.

    • Buck Stud October 30, 2014 at 9:38 pm #

      The truly destructive excess is that the top one percent own forty percent of the wealth; the bottom 80 percent, only seven percent. This mathematical reality was initially ushered in during the Reagan Revolution under the guise of ‘tax cuts and trickle down’. ‘Libruls’ were demonized for their commitment to unions and the social safety net while morons such as ‘Joe The Plumber Helper’ –he was not a journeyman plumber– lamented the possibility that they would never become the next Bill Gates because of excessive taxation.

      In other words, the malignant growth on the body politic that is consuming the wealth of the country has being fed by the lies and deceit of the right-wing/GOP with the help of their imbecilic foot soldiers, most of whom are also in the bottom 80 percent.

      You see ‘Joe The Plumber’s Helper’ thought that he too could shimmer like a golden leaf from the top branches. And like a foolish traitor he metaphorically cut down the trunk and branches that actually support the top. Sort of like what happened with Detroit and other municipalities of American industry

      It’s maddening the utter ignorance and blindness that has infected society.

      Oh well, what can you do as they say. Pretend maybe and try and ‘be a happy idiot struggling for the legal tender’. Or when stopping to take a piss on the fallen golden leaves, pretend that one day in the future these leaves will be people.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 30, 2014 at 10:32 pm #

        The Top and the Bottom unite against the middle. It’s an old pattern apparently: the Elite always try to destroy the middle class. Why? Well of course they covet their wealth – as Buddha said, there is no limit to desire. But also they middle class are the ones who could possibly overthrow them – especially the upper middle class. Thus they are taxed the heaviest and have been persecuted the hardest with outsourcing, affirmative action, etc.

        An example: Look how big Labor joined with Management to strive for the Amnesty – in direct conflict with the good of the workers they are supposed to be protecting. And of course the political wing of the Left does so as well – even protesting for Home Depot who allow illegals to loiter around waiting to be hired. The protestors are middle class and lower middle class or even lower class Whites.

        Order Gary Allen’s little book “None Dare Call it Conspiracy”. It has awakened countless people over the decades.

  90. Janos Skorenzy October 31, 2014 at 2:05 am #

    A really great Fred. Vintage. He never states Blacks are inferior, merely that they can be depended upon to act inferior. No doubt in some Neo-Kantian, Non-Euclidian, Non-Experiential reality, they are in fact, equal.

    http://www.amren.com/news/2014/10/black-power-a-done-deal/

  91. Pucker October 31, 2014 at 2:28 am #

    [Putin’s recent speech in Sochi]

    Putin: “Let’s ask ourselves, how comfortable are we with this, how safe are we, how happy living in this world, and how fair and rational has it become? Maybe, we have no real reasons to worry, argue and ask awkward questions? Maybe the United States’ exceptional position and the way they are carrying out their leadership really is a blessing for us all, and their meddling in events all around the world is bringing peace, prosperity, progress, growth and democracy, and we should maybe just relax and enjoy it all?”

    [Pucker shrugging his shoulders.]

    “I don’t know. Maybe… Sounds good…. Beats me.”

  92. Janos Skorenzy October 31, 2014 at 4:51 am #

    http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/specialseries/2014/10/day-israel-attacked-america-20141028144946266462.html

    There are no words. Everything we were taught to believe is a lie. All the cops are criminals and all the criminals, saints. Ok, not quite.

  93. FincaInTheMountains October 31, 2014 at 6:43 am #

    What Putin has said in his Valdai speech in Sochi is:

    “Listen, guys, let’s skip WWIII and go directly to peace conference. We need to set up some transparent rules of conducting international policies and commerce that EVERYBODY, including our beloved “Exceptional Nation” could abide by”.

    I think that what is called a “Rule of Law” expanding to International Matters and personally, I am voting for it.

    Problem right now that United States have broken all prior existing rules by invading, bombing, and subverting sovereign nations.

    United States have broken all prior existing rules by printing huge amounts of money, breaking their own “Washington Consensus”

    United States have caused a rampant inflation in all countries, except USA itself, by printing enormous amounts of dollars through various TARP and QE programs and exporting all that monetary inflation abroad using the Franchise system of foreign Central Banks acting as “Currency Boards” for US Federal Reserve.

  94. BackRowHeckler October 31, 2014 at 7:44 am #

    Wait a minute.

    P2C;

    Q is dead?

    • progress4what October 31, 2014 at 9:49 am #

      Whoa. I didn’t say that, the pksoaker did. I just floated up the possibility that the recent posts by “Q,” could have been done by Cold N, under the alias of Q. If you check Cold Holdfield’s own blog, you can see that he admits to being Carol Newquist. So he’s interested in character creation and all that. A pretty good writer, but I’m not sure why you refer to him as “hard as nails.” Care to elaborate?

      Personally, I hope Q’s all right, and I’d like to see him back here.

  95. BackRowHeckler October 31, 2014 at 7:46 am #

    All those posts about his brother dying in florida … just a provocation?

    What on earth for?

  96. BackRowHeckler October 31, 2014 at 8:52 am #

    How about those 3 missing American kids, siblings, found dead yesterday in Metamoros, Mexico, each shot in the head and burnt to a crisp, seized by local police about a week ago?

    In some ways Mexico seems almost as bad as territory controlled by ISIS.

    I know people who still plan on vacationing in Mexico this winter.

    brh

    • progress4what October 31, 2014 at 9:42 am #

      Yeah. I’ve got a couple of family members who still travel to Mexico for vacations or on business. There’s a strong middle class down there, and some sections of the country seem pretty secure. Of course, there are large sections of the country where you just don’t wanna’ go, IMO. What’s happening with the gangs and the deliberately provocative mass killings and all – looks a lot like what the Druid calls “warband formation.”

      Is that coming to the States? Yep, without doubt. Could it be slowed or stopped? Probably, but that would require reducing and severely restricting immigration.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 31, 2014 at 3:10 pm #

        Which are the good parts? Or the parts definitely to avoid?

  97. progress4what October 31, 2014 at 9:59 am #

    “‘Libruls’ were demonized for their commitment to unions and the social safety net while morons such as ‘Joe The Plumber Helper’ –he was not a journeyman plumber– lamented the possibility that they would never become the next Bill Gates because of excessive taxation.” – buck stud –

    Buck, you’re taking a symptom and turning it into the whole disease.

    What destroyed organized labor, more than anything else, was the flooding of immigrants into the skilled trades. Then, with shrinking opportunity to do real work – the US middle class, who wanted to remain middle class, went into management and the FIRE economy, instead of into union jobs.

    This did make it easier to sell “trickle down on” economics, tax cuts, and the rest of that package. And you’re correct that that package has done real damage. But – without the increase in population of 100,000,000 (dear Gods, in only 30+ years!) I doubt that package could have been sold so easily.

    • Buck Stud October 31, 2014 at 11:13 am #

      You’re right; I deliberately over-simplify and present just one thin slice of a particular vantage point. I think most people’s vantage point is determined by self-interest. For example, the well to do are most often going to vote GOP simply because of tax ideology. Somebody who had good health insurance before the ACA probably is not going to like it while another who could not afford insurance or was blackballed due to pre -existing conditions will probably be in favor of the ACA.

      Janos made an interesting comment a while back ago that only the rare individual can see beyond their own self interest and act in manner beneficial to the whole. But ‘beneficial to the whole’ is open once again determined by various philosophies and ideologies,

      Writers such as JHK, Greer,etc try to assemble all of the slices into a comprehensive pie although projecting out a century in advance is straining the crystal ball a bit lol.

      I can’t argue against your skilled trades comment because I have seen it happen firsthand. But again, who started hiring these people in the first place? And trust me. I have talked with enough general contractors who were genuinely vindictive in their marginalizing of American workers in favor of cheap labor. It was their way of emulating Reagan and given the American worker one half of the peace sign.

      We “are so fucked!”

    • Buck Stud October 31, 2014 at 11:25 am #

      You’re right; I deliberately over-simplify and present just one thin slice of a particular vantage point. I think most people’s vantage point is determined by self-interest. For example, the well to do are most often going to vote GOP simply because of tax ideology. Somebody who had good health insurance before the ACA probably is not going to like it while another who could not afford insurance or was blackballed due to pre -existing conditions will probably be in favor of the ACA.

      Janos made an interesting comment a while back ago that only the rare individual can see beyond their own self interest and act in a manner beneficial to the whole. But ‘beneficial to the whole’ is once again determined by various and competing philosophies and ideologies,

      Writers such as JHK, Greer,etc try to assemble all of the slices into a comprehensive pie although projecting out a century in advance is straining the crystal ball a bit lol.

      I can’t argue against your skilled trades comment because I have seen it happen firsthand. But again, who started hiring these people in the first place? And trust me. I have talked with enough general contractors who were genuinely vindictive in their marginalizing of American workers in favor of cheap labor. It was their way of emulating Reagan and given the American worker one half of the peace sign.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 31, 2014 at 3:05 pm #

        Only a rare individual can go against their own personal interests? So we therefore MAKE them? Or institute policies that do the opposite – that ruin society in favor of aliens? How is that not selfish too? A small political class run the nation into the ground for profit (Republicans) or for votes and/or ideology and feelings of moral superiority (Democrats).

        A wise Nation is one that looks after the best interests of the whole body – not just the Head, the Stomach, the Arms, or the Feet (the four castes). Self interest is where it begins. Self interest is never denied, but only expanded to include the whole society. Individuals who want to give to people in other countries are free to do so. But you want to take my money and give it for me? No, you have no right. Conservatives are right about that one – even as they are wrong about so much else. Again, Sane Socialism is National Socialism, not Marxist vindictive and/or suicidal idealism.

        And to continue the metaphor, do all the parts of body decide? Are all parts equal? Or do the same thing? No, the parts do different things and some are more conscious than others. It is for the Head to make the decisions that benefit the whole body.

        You stuck your toe into the Waters of Truth and then immediately invoke Reagan as a curse against the Truth. In fact, both parties have been involved in mass immigration and the destruction of America. It goes far beyond partisan politics and I ask you to give these up unless and until a Party arises that will fight for the Nation.

        • Buck Stud November 1, 2014 at 5:47 pm #

          I thought I was paraphrasing a comment of yours so your question is a bit curious.

          Your head/body comment invokes Plato’s Republic but which head are you referring to? I only see a hydra with multiple competitors each claiming the high throne of thought.

          I stick my toe into the waters of truth because you and Prog (speaking of missing the cause for the symptom lol) both cannot seem to admit that this is how capitalism rolls. And as the world becomes ever more connected, the natural pulsations of capitalism obliterates former boundaries such as those which demarcate nations. And isn’t that exactly what has occurred and which continues to occur?

          But to put blindfolds on and not see that Reagan lit the modern fuse for this is pure nonsense.

          But since that fuse was lit–the destruction of unions, the demonizing of labor, the propagandist lionization of all things free market and trade, the coveting and recruitment of cheap labor/outsourcing–other businesses have to conform to the dynamic or essentially fail to survive. For example, how long is the average general contractor going to last if he doesn’t use the same cheap labor as his competitors? Not long, let’s be real. And yet at one point this same general contractor may have paid Americans living wages and actually reviled cheap labor,

          Your claim that D’s and R’s are part of the same economic composition is true to a point but fails to distinguish the author’s signature on the composition and the essentially mandatory adherence to it if one is to remain a viable force and even a viable alternative –on some issues at least–in the current structural economic reality.

    • capt spaulding October 31, 2014 at 9:29 pm #

      When I was younger, back in the 60’s, people who worked in factories and were blue collar workers, started becoming Republicans. What happened was that they did such a good job getting wages & benefits, that suddenly they thought they WERE somebody & began voting for people like Reagan. They had cabins up north to go to, & a built up bar in the basement. Suddenly they began to identify with the Republicans. There was a time when almost every blue collar worker considered the Republican Party the party of the wealthy, & voted Democrat. I remember arguing at work with the newly minted Republicans, & telling them that they forgot that they worked for a living all of a sudden. Well, the Republicans are still the party of the wealthy, unfortunately, the Democrats are pretty much owned by big business as well. Things do not look good for the kids in their 20’s as far as getting decent jobs. Most of the ones I know have two or more part time jobs, no retirement, and no health insurance. Welcome to the world the Koch brothers built.

      • BackRowHeckler November 1, 2014 at 9:31 am #

        What do you mean no health insurance?

        I thought ObamaCare ended all that, in fact by law it was mandatory everyone buy insurance.

        (in line with the new totalitarian paradigm that says what is not compulsory is hereby banned)

        brh

    • ZrCrypDiK November 1, 2014 at 1:43 am #

      “What destroyed organized labor, more than anything else, was the flooding of immigrants into the skilled trades.”

      Wrong, sir – WRONG!!! (you stole fizzy lifting drinks – how dare U!)

      Offshoring manufacturing and outsourcing services did that, about 1 decade earlier. I do agree, the immigrants totally took over construction – but I also have to ask, who REALLY wants to work fast food or field crops (the only jobs left?)?!…

      BTW – I have to be honest – I didn’t suggest P2C whuz one of the sockies – those are obviously vlad/soker/etc, leaving a trail of *tears* in their wake here, on this blog (why?!?!?!?) Just non-stock, off-topic bologna…

      • BackRowHeckler November 1, 2014 at 9:35 am #

        Hey Zip how do you bring 100,000 3rd world immigrants into the country every month, on top of the 60 million that are already here, and maintain any kind of wage structure? It just isn’t possible.

        –brh

        • ZrCrypDiK November 1, 2014 at 11:51 pm #

          “–brh”

          Haha, every time I see your *tagline*, I envision sum surfer dude, spewin’, “Brah!”

          “the 60 million that are already here”

          FWIW, every census/page on immigration, that I’ve visited, states “they” only account for 40 million in the US. Most are from 1-2 years old estimates (2012+). So, even with your 1.2 million/year “addition”, it falls way short of 60 million+++…

          BTW – nice fix on the “art spin” link from 2 weeks ago – you *almost* read my mind (snappy updates today!).

          • BackRowHeckler November 2, 2014 at 2:57 am #

            I was going by an article from last week that said English is not the first language of 60 million people in the US.

            40 million is still a lot, enough to drive down wages.

            brh

          • ZrCrypDiK November 5, 2014 at 8:37 pm #

            “BTW – nice fix on the “art spin” link from 2 weeks ago”

            Oops? Dead again?!? NICE WORK!

            “Fatal error: Unknown: Cannot use output buffering in output buffering display handlers in Unknown on line 0”

            http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/real-life-is-not-spin-art/

          • ZrCrypDiK November 5, 2014 at 8:41 pm #

            Oh I get it, gotta be *logged in* to see “that” awesome thread …

            BTW, very NOT SNAPPY updates today, ZZZzzz…

  98. FincaInTheMountains October 31, 2014 at 12:17 pm #

    Europe is fighting back corrupted American rating agencies

    Italian prosecutor Michele Ruggiero obtains indictment of Standard And Poors, Fitch for dishonest ratings

    (ANSA) – Trani, October 28 – Prosecutors in the Puglia city of Trani indicted six managers and analysts from Standard & Poor’s and two analysts from Fitch ratings agencies Tuesday on charges of deliberately misleading financial markets with reports on Italy.
    The two agencies have also been indicted in the lawsuit stemming from 2011-2012 reports questioning Italy’s creditworthiness and lowering its rating, sources said.
    The reports in question were issued between May 2011 and January 2012, at the height of the eurozone debt crisis when Italy looked to be in danger of a Greek-style financial meltdown.

    http://www.ansa.it/english/news/general_news/2014/10/28/sp-fitch-indicted-in-italy_f7dc12cf-643e-48b8-8936-9004f501ba20.html

    http://www.ilgiornale.it/news/economia/inchiesta-rating-giudizio-standard-poor-s-e-fitch-1063273.html

  99. pkrugman October 31, 2014 at 12:19 pm #

    “You and yours will never be satisfied with any reasonable compromise. … Always to excess, just like this immigrant thing” — P4W

    Immigrant thing? You mean people wanting freedom and opportunity to provide for their families?

    I believe in the liberty of movement, to seek a better life. Sorry P4W, you may think it extreme, but no compromise on immigration.

    I believe in the right of collective bargaining by unions. Sorry P4W, you may think it extreme, but no compromise on union organizing.

    I believe in the right to vote without being required to obtain special government sanctioned voter ID, a modern kind of poll tax. Sorry P4W, you may think it extreme, but no compromise on voting rights.

    I believe in the liberty of associating with whomever you want, including gay marriage. Not civil unions, but equal marriage with equal benefits. Sorry P4W, you may think it extreme, but no compromise on marriage equality.

    I believe in a woman’s right to control her own body, which means abortion on demand without big government interference. Sorry P4W, you may think it extreme, but no compromise on pro-choice.

    I believe in the liberty of gun ownership, unrestricted, including military grade weapons, as many as someone wants to buy, as guaranteed by the 2nd amendment. Sorry P4W, you may think it extreme, but no compromise on the right to engage in personal arms races.

    Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 31, 2014 at 3:15 pm #

      Quite right Krugs. In Switzerland, every able bodied man keep his military grade weapon locked up in his home. Some of them take them out and carry them to the polling place when they vote. That sends the right message don’t ya think?

  100. FincaInTheMountains October 31, 2014 at 12:23 pm #

    Nobody’s left in US with balls like Italian Michele Ruggiero.
    Where are American Bill Blacks to fight corrupted Wall Street?

  101. contrahend October 31, 2014 at 1:37 pm #

    You have cast your seed into an alien womb. You must be prepared for some strange fruits. Firstly, the child wont look like you and in fact, wont be like you since White traits are recessive.

    she’s more a cinnamon girl than a negruh, tho her father is a real darkie. you wouldn’t classify her as negruh, but genetically she qualifies for quota preferences.

    anyways, i got a kaboodle of kiddies i made in Iceland, whiter than snowdrifts.

    appreciate the eugenics lesson.

    kontrahend

  102. Janos Skorenzy October 31, 2014 at 3:12 pm #

    http://news.yahoo.com/congo-crowd-kills-man-eats-him-militant-massacres-160235263.html

    Yahoo News. A conspiracy web site? Or White Nationalist? Face it folks, I’ve been giving y’all the straight dope all along.

  103. Q. Shtik October 31, 2014 at 3:15 pm #

    If you are able to see this comment it means I have (finally) been un-banned.

    BRH and Prog, thanks for your concern.

    OK, here goes, I’m going to click submit.

  104. Q. Shtik October 31, 2014 at 3:45 pm #

    I think it is odd for Tim Cook to say he is “proud to be gay.” I associate pride with accomplishment as in “I am proud to have made the dean’s list.”

    Did Tim have to work hard at being gay? I don’t think so. Have you ever heard anyone say “I am proud to be straight” or “I am proud to be a brunette?” Of course not. One does not receive pride-inducing kudos for something that comes naturally.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 31, 2014 at 4:25 pm #

      Welcome back Cotter. Horeshack here, just keepin’ it real here in the Big Apple. Good report on the harassment of women by Blacks and Blackish Latinos. The reporter appears to be a “thick” Jewish woman. Not my cuppa tea but the boyz in the hood seem to like her. Note: they treat their own women this way too – so it is not racism on their part per se. It merely shows the incompatibility of their culture with ours. Cheerio. Horse Lover Fat signing out.

      http://news.yahoo.com/woman-seen-harassed-nyc-streets-video-gets-rape-180905117.html?bcmt=1414707605539-b0217249-fb49-429f-a1d0-bfcb557e2e6b_0000fb000000000000000000000000-44f9177c-ef3c-482c-8101-7546ba087d63&bcmt_s=u#mediacommentsugc_container=

      • Q. Shtik November 1, 2014 at 1:05 am #

        I think ordinary women would kill to be perceived as sexually desirable as this attractive woman is. By definition attractive women attract. No question the boldness and lack of subtlety in the attention paid is a cultural thing. To someone outside that culture it must be very intimidating.

        • BackRowHeckler November 1, 2014 at 9:45 am #

          True enough Q.

          My 24 year old niece, from Paris recently finished up 1 year working for a fashion company in Manhattan. She was appalled by what was said to her on the streets by men in NYC, quite different from Paris.

          she never seemed to feel intimidated, tho. She had a lot of faith and admiration for the NYPD, who she compared favorably to the scrawny, ineffective gendarme in Paris. Thank God that year is over and she’s out of there.

          –brh

  105. pkrugman October 31, 2014 at 7:04 pm #

    “There is no Nation anymore, pk. Your ballyhooed multi-culturalism makes it impossible.” — P4W

    Was there a nation on Sept. 12, 2001? Didn’t you feel part of it? Wasn’t your family involved in defending it?

    There is still a Nation in 2014. It is just not white anglo-saxon protestant like it used to be. The Nation has changed but has not disappeared. As a racist you no longer feel part of the Nation and try to define it out of existence. But reality is otherwise. You are marginalized.

  106. pkrugman October 31, 2014 at 7:18 pm #

    “One does not receive pride-inducing kudos for something that comes naturally.” — ghost writer

    So you have never read Janos’ comments saying he is proud of being white even though he was born that way? If you read CFN you have.

    You have never heard of children who were born with musical gifts and become child prodigies who felt proud even though it came naturally to them?

    Have you never heard someone (maybe even yourself) say they are “proud to be an American” even though it came naturally by being born here?

  107. progress4what October 31, 2014 at 11:02 pm #

    “I believe in the liberty of gun ownership, unrestricted, including military grade weapons, as many as someone wants to buy, as guaranteed by the 2nd amendment.”
    – pk rugsoaker goes libertarian –

    That sounds like pure libertarianism, pk. Which works as a social philosophy, but so far only in theory. And the immigration plank of the libertarians only works because the social “safety net” is cut to zero. Something tells me you’d be opposed to that.

    Libertarianism, excessive population growth, multiculturalism, racist name-calling on the internet – all of these are things that appear to work for the short term, because of the frothy growth of post WWII US society. All of these things, and many others, are destined to come to an end eventually. Until that happens, just keep doing what you can to make things worse, pk. It’s your sad destiny, apparently.

  108. Q. Shtik October 31, 2014 at 11:32 pm #

    It is just not white anglo-saxon protestant like it used to be………… You are marginalized.
    ==========

    Krugperson doing what he likes best…raising hackles.

    hackles: the erectile hair on the back of an animal’s neck.

    raise one’s hackles, to arouse one’s anger.

  109. pkrugman October 31, 2014 at 11:46 pm #

    “All of these things, and many others, are destined to come to an end” — P4W

    LOL! Destined to come to an end… until they don’t.

    Five mass extinctions could not cause humanity “to come to an end” and you are concerned about “Libertarianism, excessive population growth, multiculturalism” … c’mon P4W get real. Do you know what a mass extinction event is?

    We are not “destined” to anything. Are you some kind of Scotch Presbyterian. Jesus, P4W, is that all you’ve got?

    • FincaInTheMountains November 1, 2014 at 8:47 am #

      Peak Salt (1)

      Salt, NaCl, is a chemical compound made of sodium and chloride which has been exceptionally important to humans for thousands of years. Salt’s ability to preserve food was a foundation of civilization. It helped to eliminate the dependence on the seasonal availability of food and it allowed travel over long distances. However, salt was difficult to obtain, and so it was a highly valued trade item to the point of being considered a form of currency by certain peoples. Many salt roads, such as the via Salaria in Italy, had been established by the Bronze age.

    • FincaInTheMountains November 1, 2014 at 8:52 am #

      Peak Salt

      Salt, NaCl, is a chemical compound made of sodium and chloride which has been exceptionally important to humans for thousands of years. Salt’s ability to preserve food was a foundation of civilization. It helped to eliminate the dependence on the seasonal availability of food and it allowed travel over long distances. However, salt was difficult to obtain, and so it was a highly valued trade item to the point of being considered a form of currency by certain peoples. Many salt roads, such as the via Salaria in Italy, had been established by the Bronze age.
      In the early years of the Roman Republic, with the growth of the city of Rome, roads were built to make transportation of salt to the capital city easier. An example was the Via Salaria (originally a Sabine trail), leading from Rome to the Adriatic Sea. The Adriatic, having a higher salinity due to its shallow depth, had more productive solar ponds compared with those of the Tyrrhenian Sea, much closer to Rome. It is commonly believed that Roman soldiers were at certain times paid with salt. (They say the soldiers who did their job well were “worth their salt.”)

      Empires and wars

      Salt has played a prominent role in determining the power and location of the world’s great cities. Liverpool rose from just a small English port to become the prime exporting port for the salt dug in the great Cheshire salt mines and thus became the entrepot for much of the world’s salt in the 19th century
      .
      Salt created and destroyed empires. The salt mines of Poland led to a vast kingdom in the 16th century, only to be destroyed when Germans brought in sea salt (which most of the world considered superior to rock salt). Venice fought and won a war with Genoa over salt. However, GenoeseChristopher Columbus and Giovanni Caboto would later destroy the Mediterranean trade by introducing the New World to the market.

      Cities, states and duchies along the salt roads exacted heavy duties and taxes for the salt passing through their territories. This practice even caused the formation of cities, such as the city of Munich in 1158, when the then Duke of Bavaria, Henry the Lion, decided that the bishops of Freising no longer needed their salt revenue.

      The gabelle—a hated French salt tax—was enacted in 1286 and maintained until 1790. Because of the gabelles, common salt was of such a high value that it caused mass population shifts and exodus, attracted invaders and caused wars.

      In American history, salt has been a major factor in outcome of wars. In the Revolutionary War, the British used Loyalists to intercept Revolutionaries’ salt shipments and interfere with their ability to preserve food. During the War of 1812, salt brine was used to pay soldiers in the field, as the government was too poor to pay them with money. Before Lewis and Clark set out for the Louisiana Territory, President Jefferson in his address to Congress mentioned a mountain of salt supposed to lie near the Missouri River, which would have been of immense value, as a reason for their expedition (By 1810, new discoveries along the Kanawha and Sandy Rivers had greatly reduced the value of salt.)

      During India’s independence movement, Mohandas Gandhi organized the Salt Satyagraha protest to demonstrate against the British salt tax.

      Modern mining and evaporation technologies made salt one of the most plentiful and cheap product on Earth not just by ease of access, but most importantly by breaking the MONOPOLY on salt production.
      In modern world, hydrocarbons play the same role as salt played in world history. Cheap plentiful energy obtained by soon-to-be developed thermonuclear technologies would play the same role in shifting the world power currently held by oil and gas monopolies

      • BackRowHeckler November 1, 2014 at 9:48 am #

        Salt?

        • FincaInTheMountains November 1, 2014 at 9:56 am #

          Yes, salt. In some countries, salt used to trade on weight of gold.

          Now salt is PLENTIFUL. The same way energy will soon be.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 1, 2014 at 4:03 pm #

          Yes as in “worth his salt”. The root of the word salary. At one point the Roman Legion was paid in salt.

  110. FincaInTheMountains November 1, 2014 at 10:07 am #

    Did you know that the word ‘salary’ derives from the Latin word “salarium”, referring to money given to soldiers so they could buy salt.

    • BackRowHeckler November 1, 2014 at 11:32 am #

      Interesting. I didn’t know that.

      What do you make of Russian fighter aircraft incursions into NATO airspace, unannounced, during the past week or so?

      Provocations?

      I wonder what would happen if one were shot down, or if one of these MIGS shot down a NATO aircraft sent up to intercept it?

      brh

      • FincaInTheMountains November 1, 2014 at 12:24 pm #

        Strategic Air Force carrying nuclear-tipped cruise missiles is one of the components of nuclear triad: Land-based ballistic missiles, air-based (and space?) cruise missiles, submarine-based nuclear missiles(SLBMs)

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_triad

        Only United States and Russia have all three components, China is trying to make there.

        The main component of United States nuclear triad are Trident SLBMs carried by Ohio-class submarines, but they also have B-52 carrying nuclear-tipped cruise missiles.

        During the Cold War such air patrols were common by BOTH parties and they usually conduct them in INTERNATIONAL air space, but close to “enemy” territory to test “enemy” response time.

        I am pretty sure United States are conducting such patrols as well, just media doesn’t make any fuss out of it.

        During the 90s Russia didn’t have money or political will to continue the air pissing contest, now that’s just their way of saying “Hi, guys, we’re back!”.

        And remember, that this is response to NATO deploying anti-ballistic air defense systems near Russian borders. According to NATO that is to contain Iranian nuclear threat, but nobody in the right mind believes such nonsense.

        Such system could give United States the “First Strike” capability against Russia and tip the delicate nuclear balance.

  111. pkrugman November 1, 2014 at 12:40 pm #

    ” that’s just their way of saying “Hi, guys, we’re back!”.” — Finca

    Hey, Finca, will we see pounding of shoes on a podium?

    Will Russia indeed bury us? Thanks for sounding the alarm of the new non-Soviet Russian threat. Putin’s mafia is just as dangerous.

    • FincaInTheMountains November 1, 2014 at 12:47 pm #

      Don’t be silly, PK, its not the “Putin’s Mafia”, its the “Russian Imperial Government”, just like yours.

      And no, you won’t see the shoe pounding on the podium in UN, compare to peasant Kruschev Putin is one cool-headed mothefucker.

  112. pkrugman November 1, 2014 at 1:16 pm #

    “… its not the “Putin’s Mafia”, its the “Russian Imperial Government”, just like yours….Putin is one cool-headed mothefucker.” –Finca

    My imperial government kicks ass. No-drama Obama is the cool-headed assassin. Putin has nothing to compare to our drone attacks all over the world, killing “terrorists” (and even more civilians) at will. Putin is like a small time neighborhood operator in a regionally insignificant part of the world. I don’t think Putin realizes how big a failure he is.

    Putin has stupidly alienated Germany and made enemies all over Europe. Putin’s support of Iran has alienated almost all the middle eastern countries. And he has pissed off the USA.

    So, while Putin is more isolated now than ever, he sees who the big kid on the block is: China. But Putin and the Russian people are nervous about that relationship. Russia needs China more than China needs Russia. The Russian people can see that, under Putin, Russia is having less and less global influence. Putin is not just mafia… he is small-time operator mafia.

    • FincaInTheMountains November 1, 2014 at 1:30 pm #

      “Putin has stupidly alienated Germany”

      Really? Is that your enlightened assessment, PK? I thought quite the opposite.

      Sure, Merkel is on the hook by NSA spying on her personal Blackberry, but in general German Business community is very much pro-Russian (especially in terms of multi-billion Russian market for their stuff).

      Besides US have a very convincing argument to Germans – an occupying force of 150,000 GIs who kind of forgot that the war ended in 1945. Did that info lost in US paper pushing bureaucracy?

  113. FincaInTheMountains November 1, 2014 at 1:22 pm #

    In my humble opinion, Russia and United States (US as in “Republic”, not US as in “Empire”) have much more in common interests than they have in opposite.

    A very good, and very little known to American public, example is cooperation between Russian Government of Alexander III and US Government of Abraham Lincoln during the American Civil War.

    The American Civil War had a very deep international level of events, when British Empire was attempting to conduct an equivalent of modern “Color Revolution” against the young American Republic, split US into two, maybe more parts and weaken its competitor.

    There was a real danger that British and French fleets would conduct bombing raids against Union’s main city-ports, such as New York and San Francisco.

    So in 1863 two Russian Naval Fleets were sent one to New York, another to San Francisco with the orders to protect the ports from possible bombardments.

    Both fleets spent entire winter protecting Union from the sea.

    http://www.c-span.org/video/?315198-1/russias-participation-us-civil-war

    One interesting detail: when Russian sailors saw the dismal conditions some New Yorkers were living in, they raised money among themselves and donated it to the City of New York.

  114. pkrugman November 1, 2014 at 2:20 pm #

    ” Is that your enlightened assessment, PK? I thought quite the opposite.” — Finca

    Not just my assessment. Sergey Lavrov’s and mine. Sergey knows. I know.

    (Reuters) October 31 – German Chancellor Angela Merkel told Russian President Vladimir Putin on the phone that Sunday’s planned elections in eastern Ukraine were illegitimate and would not be recognized by European leaders

    BRUSSELS, October 28 (RIA Novosti) – The European Union on Tuesday decided to leave the existing sanctions regime against Russia without any changes, a EU diplomatic source told RIA Novosti.

    Why did you think quite the opposite, Finca?

  115. pkrugman November 1, 2014 at 2:25 pm #

    “when Russian sailors saw the dismal conditions some New Yorkers were living in, they raised money among themselves and donated it to the City of New York.” — Finca

    Russians are good people, Finca. They just happen to have poor leadership right now. Running Russia like running KGB is not good.

    • FincaInTheMountains November 1, 2014 at 2:47 pm #

      Are you saying that “good Russian” is a “dead Russian”, PK? At least that what’s Obama’s policy is implying in SE Ukraine.

  116. FincaInTheMountains November 1, 2014 at 2:40 pm #

    “The European Union on Tuesday decided to leave the existing sanctions regime against Russia without any changes, a EU diplomatic source told RIA Novosti.”

    Those Eurocrats don’t know shit from Shinola, Are those sanctions against Russia, or against European Economy to make it easier to sign Trans-Atlantic “Free Trade” Agreement (TAFTA) so US Multinationals will have easy time colonizing Western Europe?

  117. Q. Shtik November 1, 2014 at 3:52 pm #

    A couple of months ago Jim used Burkina Faso as a punch line in some clever writing about the effed up state of the world. Not one in a thousand had ever heard of this place nor could point to it on an unmarked map of the world. Well, it’s another hell-hole in West Africa and it has made it into the days news in the NY Times, to wit: “A second military officer appears to have taken power in Burkina Faso, a third leader for the West African state in 24 hours.”

    • BackRowHeckler November 1, 2014 at 9:33 pm #

      Not only that Q a mob burned down the main Parlaiment Building after police shot a bunch of them down with live ammo.

      Never a dull moment in Africa.

      brh

    • Q. Shtik November 2, 2014 at 12:45 am #

      the days news in the NY Times,
      =========

      Too bad, you’ve had 9 hours to catch me in an error and you blew it.

      It should be day’s news.

      • ZrCrypDiK November 2, 2014 at 7:16 pm #

        No limit to the atrocities you *incite* – but hey, let’s *TALK*.

        It should clearly be,

        “it has made it into (the days news in) the NY Times,”

        Feelin’ *HAPPY*?!?

  118. Q. Shtik November 1, 2014 at 11:49 pm #

    In case anyone is wondering how I got myself un-banned……..

    On Thursday evening, 10/23, Jim made a presentation at the Great Hall of the famous Cooper Union in NY (Lincoln delivered an address there in 1860). My wife and I attended…Jim’s talk, not Lincoln’s.

    During the chit chat session that preceded the presentation I hesitantly approached the great man on all fours over a bed of broken glass, prostrated myself before him and asserted that 9 months was punishment enough and could he please see his way to paroling me. My wife was amused by my groveling. The obeisance apparently pleased Jim and he contacted his “tech-guy” to lift the fatwa.

    • ZrCrypDiK November 2, 2014 at 12:06 am #

      “9 months was punishment enough”

      Damn! You know you (‘re) just lieing out your sphincter…

      I read a “few” poast of yours, about 1-2 months ago – unless that whuz a *hijack* – which I HIGHLY doubt.

      But yes – we’ve definitely missed you the past few weeks. I’ve been sooo embarrassed by all the spelling/punctiation/grammar errors.

      • Q. Shtik November 2, 2014 at 12:34 am #

        I was in a hotel in Florida for 3 weeks and was able to post under their IP address. Once back in my own home in NJ I was blocked out again.

        • ZrCrypDiK November 2, 2014 at 1:09 am #

          I swear to *GHAD*, snake – it whuz a simple typo – i for u – “punctiation”

          • Janos Skorenzy November 2, 2014 at 1:30 am #

            You worship a snake?

          • ZrCrypDiK November 2, 2014 at 1:03 am #

            Snakes? Did you say “snakes”?!?

  119. BackRowHeckler November 2, 2014 at 12:37 am #

    According to NBC right now there are mass executions being carried out in Anbar province by ISIS in the name of Allah, systematic massacres of Christians and Yazides mostly with machine guns, like what happened to the Jews in Western Russian in the summer and fall of 1941 by Einsatzgruppen A, B, C, and D.

    I know we have other stuff to think about — the president of Apple is gay, election time on tues., the Patriots – Broncos football game, but unlike, say Babi Yar or the Soviet holocaust in the Ukraine in 1933, nobody can say we didn’t know about this one.

    The President, the British Prime Minister, the head of the UN, the French Premier, Angela Merkel, they all know.

    brh

    • Janos Skorenzy November 2, 2014 at 1:30 am #

      What about the massacres by the Jews and/or American/Soviet forces? We’re not the good guys – haven’t been for more than a hundred years, yo.

      Remember Operation Keelhaul where Eisenhower sent back Russian and Eastern European men who had fought against both Stalin and Hitler – back to Russia to face certain imprisonment, torture, and/or death.

      • BackRowHeckler November 2, 2014 at 2:50 am #

        Ike regretted that. Some of Vlasov’s men. Hard men in brutal times.

        brh

        • Janos Skorenzy November 2, 2014 at 3:12 am #

          Ike, Wilson, Reagan – they all made a lot of big “mistakes” they regretted. But they never paid for them – we did. Same thing with Churchill and Great Britain.

  120. Karah November 2, 2014 at 3:12 am #

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/31/us-shale-funds-analysis-idUSKBN0IJ29J201410311

    This rollercoaster ride in stock prices is leading in two different directions for oil companies. The bigger fish eat the little fish and get bigger. They can better “manage” all the new frack wells because they can withstand the drops in price. 76$ is most wells profit margin but if fewer companies own the wells and therefore control the supply…won’t they be able to manipulate the market?

  121. FincaInTheMountains November 2, 2014 at 5:24 am #

    How does the U.S. Export Inflation?

    http://www.tatoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=53%3Aeducational-articles&id=5160%3Ahow-does-the-us-export-inflation

    I have made reference of late about the U.S. exporting inflation as a direct result of our Federal Reserves decision to inflation our way out of debt. A few interested readers have asked how this work. Here’s the equation.

    To stimulate our economy, the U.S. government and/or the Federal Reserve can do one of two things. We can issue more debt and sell it to the rest of the world or we can print more money. We have chosen, in fact, to do both. The way we are doing it is to by issuing more bonds and our Federal Reserve is buying then rather than U.S. investors or overseas investors. That is creating artificial demand if you will. In doing so, interest rates stay lower than they should and we create additional monies to create more debt to kick start the economy. We essentially are attempting to solve a debt problem with more debt. Although it can work, eventually it will fail. Who knows where the tipping point is.

    Now, for the inflation side. The U.S. is the reserve currency of the world. What that means is that most countries hold their reserves (cash they have) in dollars. As the Federal Reserve floods the world with more dollars, other countries have one of two choices:

    1) they can let the values of their own currencies rise or

    2) they can print more of their own domestic currency to stay delta neutral with the deflating U.S. dollar.

    Now if countries choose number 1, it doesn’t cause inflation in their domestic economies – it instead cause their economy to head south because a rising domestic currency valuation causes their exporters to become uncompetitive. Since most all other countries are unlike the domestic consumption machine that the U.S. is, that causes layoffs, unemployment, a recession in a real sense.

    If they choose number to in order to stay competitive, then they are, in essence, creating inflation.

    That is how we export inflation to the rest of the world and it is consequence of our Federal Reserves policies.

    ====================================================

    Bottom line, US behaves as a crooked broker, taking advantage that most of the currencies have to go through US dollar in order to buy stuff in other countries.

    • nsa November 2, 2014 at 9:03 am #

      4% actual inflation – 1% interest rate = 3% net annual loss in purchasing power and debt burden. By the rule of 72: 72/3 = 24….the number of years for purchasing power and debt burden to halve.

  122. pkrugman November 2, 2014 at 11:05 am #

    nsa, the actual inflation rate is 1.7% so where did you get 4%? By the law of 72 inflation is a non-factor relative to purchasing power, given current life span.

  123. pkrugman November 2, 2014 at 2:03 pm #

    “On Thursday evening, 10/23, Jim made a presentation at the Great Hall of the famous Cooper Union in NY ” — the Q imposter

    Whoever you are (Asoka?), you are not doing a good imitation of Q. You don’t seem to know where Q. lived. He would not have made the trip to Cooper Union and Q. was definitely not a groveler.

    If you want to continue this farce of pretending to be Q., at least stick to spelling and grammar. That would be a suitable homage to Q. (may the peace of Allah be upon him)

    • ZrCrypDiK November 3, 2014 at 5:49 am #

      And you’ve also *apparently* read my mind as well – nice to be here, *ONE* and all…

      Paul Krugman – I’ve heard of you. You’re a small, little man (and how ’bout P. Kelly rugSHNOZ)

      I meant to tell you all – I’ve got a new GMO recipe – SCHNOZberries!!! Blueberries the size of crab-apples. And they taste like blackberries/./././. Minor problem – they dont seem to carry the roundup *GENE*…

  124. FincaInTheMountains November 2, 2014 at 3:27 pm #

    Aid pledge for returning UK jihadists with ‘good intentions’

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/02/aid-for-returning-british-jihadists-hague

    The UK will help jihadists returning from Iraq and Syria to recover if they have “good intentions” about stopping others joining the conflict, the Conservative leader of the Commons, has said.

    In a change of tone, William Hague said that some will “just need help because they will have been through an extremely traumatic period” while fighting overseas.
    =====================================================

    Sure, chopping the heads off could constitute for “traumatic experience”. Of course, one could understand Hague’s unbelievable care for jihadist mercenaries that are supposed to operate outside of UK.

    I think in US it is called “giving aid and comfort to the enemy”. Britain is long known for providing such aid and comfort to various extremists, from Karl Marx, Bakunin and Giuseppe Mazzini to our days Chechen jihadists.

  125. progress4what November 2, 2014 at 5:08 pm #

    “Was there a nation on Sept. 12, 2001? Didn’t you feel part of it? Wasn’t your family involved in defending it?”

    – pk rugsoaker asks some rhetorical questions, before attacking white people and (imagine this) calling someone racist –

    The problem with rhetorical questions, pk, is that they sometimes have a real answer that undercuts the original argument. Let me illustrate:

    On September 12, 2001, there were a number of individuals and groups inside the US who were quietly gloating and celebrating the attacks of the previous day. Some of these people were illegal Saudi immigrants, others were legal and/or illegal residents of various stripes. They were all part of a “multicultural America.” IOW, there’s no stopping multiculturalism, even as groups are allowed to live and prosper inside the US who are totally dedicated to the destruction of those same US.

    Or consider the millions of illegal and legal Mexicans and central/south Americans who are living inside the US. Many of these people cheer AGAINST the US, in soccer and other sports. Many of these people support the destructive policy of “La Reconquista.”

    Since our very own Rugsoaker supports the reconquista because it is dedicated to breaking up the US and “stealing back the lands that were stolen in 1830+/-, blah, blah,” we can see evidence here of another (this time large and noisy) group living in the multicult US that is opposed to the existence of the country known as the US.

    In summary, when taken to today’s extremes – multiculturalism makes the existence of a real Nation impossible. QED

  126. progress4what November 2, 2014 at 5:16 pm #

    “BTW – I have to be honest – I didn’t suggest P2C whuz one of the sockies – those are obviously vlad/soker/etc, leaving a trail of *tears* in their wake here, on this blog (why?!?!?!?) Just non-stock, off-topic bologna…” – z crypt –

    Only thing is, zcrypt, many of vlad’s posts are oriented toward the real societal problems (including racial problems) that would be associated with a societal crumbling of the sort that JHK addresses weekly.

    The soaker stays constantly off-topic with his insistence that “progress” will never cease, the lights will never go off, and the food trucks will never stop running.

    • ZrCrypDiK November 3, 2014 at 4:37 am #

      I appreciate whut you’re trying to do, but isn’t it simply beating the dead corpse?

      Fetal masturbation! Casino gulag! Suicide bankster?!?

      SRSly, what can you possibly “WANT” from me?!… TRUTH is hardly unbiased.

  127. progress4what November 2, 2014 at 5:22 pm #

    “I stick my toe into the waters of truth because you and Prog (speaking of missing the cause for the symptom lol) both cannot seem to admit that this is how capitalism rolls. And as the world becomes ever more connected, the natural pulsations of capitalism obliterates former boundaries such as those which demarcate nations. And isn’t that exactly what has occurred and which continues to occur?

    But to put blindfolds on and not see that Reagan lit the modern fuse for this is pure nonsense.” – buck –

    Nice post, buck. And you’ll never find me praising Reagan. Carter had it closer to correct, Reagan rolled it all back and then went to extreme excess. But, remember Reagan himself was a symptom, a trained union actor propped up by forces larger than himself.

    You’re right about capitalism, though. If the US had been allowed to be a real Nation after WWII we would have fought off the worst excesses of capitalism to the benefit of our own people.

    But that’s not what happened, is it?

    • Janos Skorenzy November 2, 2014 at 6:39 pm #

      Precisely. Now that you See, can you blame me for wanting this half alive, corrupt, racist (towards Whites) country to come to a speedy end? The White State(s) that arise from the ashes will be a relief after this. I only mourn that I may not live to see them.

    • Buck Stud November 2, 2014 at 9:42 pm #

      “But, remember Reagan himself was a symptom, a trained union actor propped up by forces larger than himself.”–progress4what

      Hard to argue against that as well. In fact, the more I think about your statement the more “Bush The Elder” comes to mind. As I gather he and Reagan were never that simpatico and in the immediate aftermath of the Reagan presidency, George.H.W. Bush coined the phrase “One World Order” as most of us can probably recall.

      I suppose we could attempt to peel back the onion to order to see who was whispering in Bush The Elder’s ear but we would probably end up crying tears of anger and tears of sadness.

  128. pkrugman November 2, 2014 at 6:08 pm #

    “…“progress” will never cease, the lights will never go off, and the food trucks will never stop running.” — P4W

    How is it “off-topic” to provide metric after metric to objectively disprove what JHK has predicted for the last 15 years?

    Whether it be the “collapse around the corner” version of doom or the “long slow decline” version of doom, neither one has happened.

    You have to be intentionally ignoring data to conclude otherwise. Look at all the predictions of QE leading to hyperinflation, or peak oil leading to societal collapse, etc. None of them have panned out in the last 15 years. Yet the doomsters march on.

    As you say, the food trucks will never stop running. The Wal-Mart parking lots are as full today as they were 15 years ago, the difference being they employ 2.2 million today, as opposed to 1.1 million 15 years ago. This has been great for new immigrants arriving.

    All your projected fears over the last 15 years that caused you to stock up on food are baseless, P4W. You think I am “off-topic” but at least I am not denying reality. Multiculturalism being exhibit #1 … you are not even proud of the multicultural Nation in which you live.

    You refused to answer my real questions (not rhetorical) about what you want, if you don’t want diversity. You want homogeneity? Do you want “separate but equal”? You want Jim Crow?

    Let us know. Or are you afraid to confirm just how racist you are?

    • Buck Stud November 2, 2014 at 9:52 pm #

      “The Wal-Mart parking lots are as full today as they were 15 years ago, the difference being they employ 2.2 million today, as opposed to 1.1 million 15 years ago. This has been great for new immigrants arriving.”– P Kelly Rugman

      Never mind the immigrant angle for now. Walmart doesn’t pay a living wage and many of their employees are on food stamps/ Medicaid. I don’t begrudge the workers but asserting that Walmart is a good deal is stretching it a bit, even for you Mr. Rugman.

      In other words, Walmart might be good for immigrants in comparison to where they came from, but it’s a bad deal for the country when Walmart basically pawns off their measly paid workers to the rest of tax paying society to support.

  129. progress4what November 2, 2014 at 6:20 pm #

    “….metric after metric to objectively disprove what JHK has predicted for the last 15 years?” – pk rugsoaker admits he’s trolling us –

    “…Do you want “separate but equal”? You want Jim Crow?
    Let us know. Or are you afraid to confirm just how racist you are?”
    – pk rugsoaker fires a preemptive “racist” attack –

    That’s the measure of how you think, pk. You spend endless hours attempting to “objectively disprove” the work of the host of this website, and everyone who disagrees with you strongly enough is a racist. Amazing.

  130. Janos Skorenzy November 2, 2014 at 7:09 pm #

    They want to call the next currency the Amero. I’d say it should be called the Squandro instead. What say ye? Let’s vote on this as well as on the laws of physics.

  131. pkrugman November 2, 2014 at 7:37 pm #

    “You spend endless hours attempting to “objectively disprove” the work of the host of this website…”

    None of my comments is “off-topic” …

    A comments section is for comments that reflect multiple points of view, not just to kiss ass (e.g. “good work this week, JHK” week after week). The host wants critical reflections, both for and against. There are no rules posted saying providing evidence contrary to the host’s work is off limits.

    You say you oppose diversity and cite the theden.tv article against diversity (which I could not read), but you won’t answer any questions about what you want instead of diversity. You are in denial. You deny reality when it comes to benefits of immigration.

    Your hoarded foodstocks have a finite shelf life.

    • progress4what November 2, 2014 at 8:32 pm #

      The only benefits of US immigration are economic. Diversity is a net negative, absent continued prosperity.

      Your incessant praise of diversity is based on the hope that the power will always stay on and the food trucks will never stop running.

      Even in today’s frenetically prosperous US, millions of people vote with their feet and their housing decisions – choosing to live in community with their own uni-cultural subset of multicultural chimera.

      Look at this map at the level of streets and city blocks and you would understand – if only you were capable of understanding.
      http://demographics.coopercenter.org/DotMap/index.html

      And what is it with you and “hoarded food, ” all of a sudden.
      Only a fool believes in eternal plenty on Earth.

  132. pkrugman November 2, 2014 at 11:48 pm #

    “it’s a bad deal for the country when Walmart basically pawns off their measly paid workers to the rest of tax paying society to support.” — Buck Stud

    I know the Red States are the biggest takers. They are also the most hypocritical when it comes to “family values” with higher divorce rates, domestic violence, child abuse, etc.

    I am concerned, Buck Stud, about your false dichotomy. By definition WalMart workers are having FICA and taxes withheld from their salaries. In other words, they are not takers, WalMart workers are contributors.

    To then state that “the rest of tax paying society” has to support them is an insult and implies that low paid immigrants working at WalMart are somehow a burden. WalMart not paying a living wage is a problem for all taxpayers, including those working at WalMart who are paying their fair share to taxes.

  133. pkrugman November 2, 2014 at 11:55 pm #

    “The only benefits of US immigration are economic.” — P4W

    That is bullshit. You are ignoring the other benefits.

    Diversity is strength.

    Do you want to eliminate diversity from the military?

  134. FincaInTheMountains November 3, 2014 at 4:39 am #

    Stock Market behaves more and more like a cancer tumor – it only reproduces itself

    From a legitimate tool of raising capital for new production and creation of new jobs, US Stock Market turned into a giant cancer tumor that could only reproduce itself.

    Stock Buyback Programs – funds are spent on buying back companies own shares and increased dividends with the goal of stock price increase – NOT expansion of production.

    • ZrCrypDiK November 3, 2014 at 6:43 am #

      OMG, I know – rugs are soaked (SOCKIE).

      Why you do what you *do* – “know” one can wonder…

      Why you sell out your very existence (mom/pop) also remains unclear…

      SELLOUT!!!! Buy gold/oil/coffee(HOARD)…

      • FincaInTheMountains November 3, 2014 at 9:03 am #

        In Russia it was “buy salt and matches”…. Gold is good, but too dangerous to hold. Oil I could extract from palm nuts. Coffee I grow.

        • ZrCrypDiK November 3, 2014 at 5:10 pm #

          The Russian – no. 124. Haha James Spader, *tuff turf*?!?

  135. progress4what November 3, 2014 at 7:50 am #

    Mr. Rugsoaker,

    Why is it, then, that your many apologia for immigration almost always run to some sort of “growth is good” argument? Hmmm?

    What I want is for the military to be the leanest, meanest fighting machine possible – and not an endless sociology experiment in “diversity.”

  136. FincaInTheMountains November 3, 2014 at 9:24 am #

    How good is it to poke the bear with a stick

    Russia Conducts Full “Nuclear Triad” Drill, Launches Topol-M ICBM
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-03/russia-conducts-full-nuclear-triad-preparedness-test-launches-topol-m-icbm-over-week

    While east Ukraine, aka the Donetsk Republic, was voting over the weekend in what the west pre-emptively classified as another sham vote as its outcome would merely push east Ukraine even closer to the Kremlin, Russia was busy conducting its most comprehensive Nuclear preparedness drill in recent history, one involving the entire “nuclear triad” consisting of strategic bombers; submarines and an the ICBM on Saturday morning.

    Did you know that last time such drill was conducted was on September 11, 2001?

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