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“Peace with Honor” was President Nixon’s anodyne phrase for futzing around as long as possible in Vietnam to conceal the reality that the US military was getting its ass kicked by what we had initially thought was a 98-pound weakling of a Third World country. That was a half-century ago and I remember it now at age 106 thanks to my diet of kale and pepperoni sticks. Not ironically, the long struggle finally ended a few years after Nixon quit the scene, with the last straggling American evacuees waiting desperately for helicopter airlifts off the US embassy roof. And now, of course, Vietnam is a tourism hot-spot.
And so just the other day, the latest POTUS declared (in his usual way) that “we’ll be coming out of Syria, like, very soon. Let the other people take care of it now.” The utterance sent the neocon partisans in government into a paroxysm. Cries of “Say What?” echoed up and down the Great Mall. Which “other people” was Mr. Trump referring to? The United Auto Workers? Gandalf the Grey? The cast of Glee?
I doubt that the average Harvard faculty member can state with any conviction what the fuck is going on in Syria. Vietnam was like a simple game of Animal Lotto compared to the mystifying puzzle of Syria. And then, of course, once you get handle on who the players are, it’s another matter altogether to descry what US interests there might be.
One angle of the story is whether it is in America’s interest for Syria to become another failed state in a region of several other failed states. Whatever else you might say about US policy in that part of the world, the general result in places like Iraq, Libya, and Yemen has been anarchy and irresolvable factional conflict. In today’s world of nation-states, a central government is required to avoid that fate, and the embattled one in Syria happens to be the regime of Bashar al-Assad. The US has long militated for the overthrow of Assad, but I would also challenge you (and the Harvard faculty) to name any credible party or person who we have hypothetically proposed to replace him with.
You might argue that the Great Age of Nation States is winding down, that the world does not need them anymore, that they are the cause of too much strife and anguish. But then you would have to account for all the strife and anguish that occupied the world when it was composed of petty kingdoms, principalities, fiefdoms, and tribes. And, of course, following that logic you’d also have to inquire into the legitimacy of the US government — which, by the way, California is well into testing these days.
One might also propose that the battlefield of Syria, with its array of militant religious maniac armies, is just a proxy action for the tag-teams of the USA/Israel versus Russia/Iran. If so, the US has not been very clear or honest about it. Anyway, it has hardly been demonstrated that Russia is all that comfortable with Iran extending its influence to the Mediterranean Sea. I would take Russia’s presence in Syria as an attempt to block, or at least moderate, Iran’s influence there — which is one of the arguments for a US/Russia partnership in cleaning up the mess there.
That possible outcome has been hugely compromised by the RussiaRussiaRussia hysteria engineered by the neocon warhawks of the US permanent bureaucracy (a.k.a. the Deep State). The latest ploy by these players is the overcooked story of Vladimir Putin personally moving to poison the Russian/British double agent Skripal (and daughter) in Salisbury, UK. Given the extremely lethal nature of the supposed poison, Novichok, and the method supposedly used (smearing it on the Skripal doorknob), it’s hard to believe that the Skripals were able to walk to the park bench where they collapsed, nor that other persons ranging from the police to the medical examiners didn’t come into contact with the substance and fall ill. But this is the sort of cockamamie melodrama that it has come down to on our side of the gameboard.
The other part of the story worth considering is this: Syria, like other new-ish nations of the Middle East, was able to hugely increase its population in the post-WW2 era due to oil wealth (now all but gone in Syria), and other perqs of modernity like cheap grains for feeding all the newcomers. Dwindling oil revenue and severe drought (arguably induced by climate change) that caused crop failures commenced in 2006. So Syria became a workshop study in population overshoot and resource scarcity — problems that are sure to spread around other regions of the world in the years ahead. Nature’s way of correcting those imbalances is very ugly, and easily mistaken for mere politics.
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Oina,
Are you commenting this week?
I ask because you commented only once lasrtweek, and that was to disparage commenting.
That seems to be the modus operandi of those who have no comment of their own.
I have no idea who Oina is, but I’m commenting this week just to thank JHK for an insightful analysis of the Syria clusterfuck, and also to ask him, “What do you have against kale and pepperoni sticks?”
“Oina” is the cross-name of Eoin and Oily.
I commented earlier about Kunstler’s kale and pepperoni sticks, but my comment got deleted by Kunstler.
Maybe I’ll try again to get past the censors.
Also, what happened to GreenAlba?
When I left last week in protest to Eoin’s anti-social behaviors, I expected to breath the fresh air of GreenAlba’s thoughts upon my return. Kinda’ an alter-ego thing.
Its only a matter of time before a war kicks off. It will cover up a lot of our problems, like our decaying culture or our debt. The liberal disorder will of course escape as it always does under various guises of ‘patriotism’ etc, oh and we need your guns while we are at it.
“The liberal disorder will of course escape as it always does” -FallenHero
Any prognosis for the Far Left or Progressives?
Population control implemented before the reduction in oil availability can cause the same thing on its own, eh Jim? Well it is an interesting thought and anyone that will just blow it off as not possible is only a fool that does not understand how to converse about serious issues. The circles in which I have operated in the last couple of decades have always kicked around the concept of population control in a world of ever increasing numbers with resources that are at least arguably not infinite. Governments, who are tasked with long term planning, (even if the population does not want to believe this) must certainly have quiet discussions as to what, if anything should be done to curb overpopulation, though they would never allow such a fact to be made public. Historically, large scale wars have been either the intended tool to keep the serfs from over-breeding or just what happens and accomplishes the goal anyway. Large wars have become extremely dangerous since the proliferation of nuclear weapons and delivery systems, so perhaps a more covert approach to the goal is being implemented.
Whether the overly entertained and distracted public cares to admit it or acknowledge the fact at all is irrelevant – the primary concern of every government in every country of the world is to control its own population in order to maintain power. To those who hold the reigns of power, maintaining that power must be achieved at ALL cost! Your theory is very worthy of discussion. I hope that we can accomplish this without the regular bullshit.
“To those who hold the reigns of power, maintaining that power must be achieved at ALL cost!” CORRECT
Your theory is very worthy of discussion.” YES WE SHOULD
“I hope that we can accomplish this without the regular bullshit.” HA!
These Control Freaks are dangerous internationally, and increasingly domestically. What is currently happening to Blacks and Muslems should frighten you. They’re just practicing on the easy targets first.
It does not frighten me dannyboy because I know that this is what they are doing and that they will certainly come for guys like me before they are through. I do not know of any case in history where an army of primitive, nomadic goat herders or large masses of African indigenous inhabitants ever rose up against a tyrannical government and overthrew them. The only case of this ever being done successfully was in 1776 right here in North America and it was accomplished by determined white men who were sufficiently armed for the task. It appears to me that the open borders and the importation of those that would assault the current inhabitants of America may be the opening blows of our demise, but before they can achieve what it is they wish to do they will have to root us out themselves with their technologies, their stooges, and whatever else it takes to remove the greatest threat to their tyranny. In the end, those of us that are hunted will have only one thing that we can do and that will be to Quit Ye Like Men! What form that will take will be an individual choice and I am still considering my options for when the time comes. It has been an interesting life but when it ends, and it surely will, Eternal Rest is the most important goal I can conceive of.
Correction – a group of armed white men were also able to accomplish government overthrow in 1917 in Russian as well. Damn those pesky white men and their guns. Perhaps they should not be allowed to own guns, ya think?
Might help if white men could manage to restrain themselves from massacring school children.
You mean that it might help if white school children could keep from massacring other white school children. To combat this I would suggest that we not only prohibit ownership or even handling of firearms by anyone under the age of 30, but that should one of them somehow acquire a weapon and do a dirty deed we hang the lawful owner of the weapon used in the crime as well. There is also the violence in entertainment issue to consider:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/media-violence-resulting-effect-children-andrew-train
You mean the Jewish Bolsheviks? You didn’t just compare their takeover with the our Revolution, did you?
A great post ruined by the correction.
You think the Zionists were responsible for the Lenin/Trotsky revolt JS? What evidence do you have to support that, I would like to see.
Huh? Zionism? They were and are Nationalists. Yes, they were Socialists and even Communists, but National Socialist and National Communists. Indeed, they provided a template for the Nazis in some respects. Pat Buchanan has noted this as well about Likud in particular in our times.
But the Communists are another story, but yes, dominated by the Jews in the case of the Russian Revolution. Found you a good article. Also read Solzhenitsyn’s, Two Hundred Years Together. Many of the Jewish Revolutionaries changed their names in an attempt to hide their Jewish ethnicity. Trotsky’s real name was Lev Bronstein for example.
https://www.darkmoon.me/2017/the-jewish-role-in-the-bolshevik-revolution-and-russias-early-soviet-regime/
After Lenin (part Jewish by most accounts) had died. The Jews were squabbling about who was going to take over, and Stalin made his move. He liked the Jews originally, married one I believe, certainly no Anti-Semite. But over time he realized they had their own objectives apart from World Revolution. And when Israel was founded, they became intensely interested in that and thus increasingly pro-Western since Israel was in the Western sphere. He even tried to lure them back by giving them their own homeland in southern Siberia. Good land I believe, not too far north. But they were electrified – as I would be if one nation recognized that it was White by its very nature. So they would not be lured back and he realized that such highly placed and dynamic people were a danger to the goals of the Soviet Union. So he moved against them.
And ‘primitive’ (80 % rural at the time, 80% educated and urbanized two-three decades later) Balkan men overthrow the boy-king Peter’s supporters and Nazi collaborators while fighting another collaborators and holding 26 German divisions at bay.
Led by one of the greatest military commanders of WWII, masterfully put under the rug by western influence after his death. He is now labeled, of course, as being a dictator. Label readily accepted by awaken, after long sleep and last war, ideology of mentioned collaborators and spreading through the region like wild fire. As for the “king”, simple Google search will make you vomit to whom we bow to as a possessor of a ‘royal blood’, and that goes the same for the litter of “people’s princess” and all others.
Now…where Castro falls in your ‘overthrow story’ other than not counted as whitey ?
When time comes, i’m outta’ here.
btw, we differ somewhat on our view of immigrants. I live in nyc, mostly immigrant; and will be an immigrant myself one day.
Different is good. I am definitely a man of the land and this lovely patch of mountain that I have been planted on since 1981 is a great place to make a stand. I do not fault those who will run when the times comes but there are a number of problems associated with escape that I do not care to run into myself.
One is that in my experience, transplants (especially New York City folk) are generally not appreciated anywhere outside of the 5 boroughs. Americans in general are not well liked around the world these days so good luck emigrating to the Pyrenees. Personally, I do not run well anymore, I would only die tired. I have become a fixed defense so here is where I will make my stand should the time come upon us. A long, slow decay is the most likely scenario to play out, but that can possibly unfold between now and 2026 which still leaves 7 years of suffering until 2033 (that would make 2000 years you know).
“One is that in my experience, transplants (especially New York City folk) are generally not appreciated anywhere outside of the 5 boroughs. Americans in general are not well liked around the world these days so good luck emigrating to the Pyrenees.”
I am LOVED in Mexico, it helps that my wife is fluent in Spanish, having lived in Mexico City with a prominent Spanish-descended family.
Kissed on arrival and hugged goodbye on departure, always accompanied with “Come back soon.”
People outside this country appreciate NYCers as different than Americans. In Mexico we share their personal warmth and disdain for The Trump.
I am happy to hear that danny. I wish you only the best should you ever find yourself as a permanent resident South of the Border.
He has a good point. The International Race has resources an ordinary White Man does not have. Even a middle class Jew would find aid and succor, aid only available to a White of the elite class. And even he might not find the good will, since that can’t be bought.
“, i’m outta’ here.”
“If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.” — John F. Kennedy
““If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.”
my motivation for having a move plan in place.
What is happening to Blacks and Muslims? What are you talking about?
Blacks and Muslims are pouring into formerly White Nations. And THAT should frighten us, both in terms of why “our” governments would do such a thing to us and in terms of what the Blacks and Muslims will and already are doing to us.
Don’t try to take Whites out of the equation. We have needs and desires like everyone else. We need living room, places to call our own, places without Mosques or sex trafficking or the incredible levels of crime that Blacks ALWAYS bring.
“They” are not united. They are full of personal ambition leading to conflict as soon as some actors amass enough wealth to organize an organization of sufficient size (mercs, media, bread and circus rabble,
professional protesters, crowds on demand).
This will lead to civil war. The largest war in the history of Rome was the civil war, 40 legions under arms and after that Rome could no longer stomach the loss of 3 legions in the Teutoburg forest.
They will come for you since they will be needing you.
Walter B: “Governments, who are tasked with long term planning, (even if the population does not want to believe this) must certainly have quiet discussions as to what, if anything should be done to curb overpopulation, though they would never allow such a fact to be made public.”
Can the world population ever be brought under control through “planning?” It would have to be implemented via a one-world government directive. Otherwise, nations would always be trying to get the drop on their neighbors through informal breeding programs (see Mexico et al).
So it’s going to be war, famine, pestilence and revolution doing that job of population control the old-fashioned way for the foreseeable future.
Socialism is a leading cause of overpopulation, btw. Government subsidies and 3rd world (i.e., shithole country) attitudes = encouraging mud rat strategies.
A government can provide subsidies as long as the promises last.
I am more than willing to accept population control as a driving factor for One World Government, it makes total sense. Perhaps that is why they are bringing so many 3rd world immigrants into America to slow down their reproductive tendencies. Then they can wipe out what remains behind maybe? I have seen those who claim that once families move here, they quickly stop breeding as fast because it costs too much to do. I understand that this is not universal, but there appear to be some statistics to point in that direction. It’s a bunch of crap if you ask me, but perhaps it is one way they are dealing with it. One thing is for sure and that is that those who rule have little to no patience for low life competition from the starving masses.
A Syrias thank you for today’s topic. You don’t have to be as Harvard faculty member to be confused over Syria, Being confused over Syria is easy. Yet even more vexing than the confusion is the mortification produced when you actually do get a sense of who the players are and what is going on.
We actually had the chance of helping a Islamic state founded on egalitarian rights for men and women get going under the Kurds in the north but hey, America elected the pussy grabber and kissing Turkeys ass is apparently more important than helping a pro-American egalitarian democracy flourish in the area.
Maybe the story would be different if there was enough grass in Syria for a big T golf course. Syriasly! Instead the Kurds are kicked to the kurb.
I’m fairly certain that most Americans have no idea where Syria is never-mind the fact that US troops are there. The US can’t declare a ‘mission accomplished’ thing because there was never any stated mission to begin with.
Perhaps, the neocons will let him pull out if he agrees to provide them with a softer target for ‘freedom and democracy’. Dominican Republic?
“Perhaps, the neocons will let him pull out if he agrees to provide them with a softer target for ‘freedom and democracy’. Dominican Republic?”
Too late. Most of the Dominican Republic is in the Bronx.
exactly, nor do most of us Canadians.
“Perhaps, the neocons will let him pull out if he agrees to provide them with a softer target for ‘freedom and democracy’. Dominican Republic?”
Nah, it has to involve pipelines.
Thanks for providing details on the Skripal poisonings. There are still many unanswered questions regarding this case. As you point out, JHK, what we have been told about it by the media does not make sense.
As to population overshoot–the media have conditioned the masses to accept endless population growth as normal and not something to be questioned.
Last night’s episode of Homeland explained the poisoning.
I had to stop watching Homeland after season 3. The level of absurd anti-Iran propaganda became too much to take. I suspect that the CIA has a hand in writing their scripts.
“I suspect that the CIA has a hand in writing their scripts.”
Hyperbole only weakens credibility.
The writers visit Langley regularly though.
Growth of all sorts including of the population is needed to support the ballooning debt. This economic logic rules all to the bitter end.
“The other part of the story worth considering is this: Syria, like other new-ish nations of the Middle East, was able to hugely increase its population in the post-WW2 era due to oil wealth (now all but gone in Syria), and other perqs of modernity like cheap grains for feeding all the newcomers.”
‘Oil all but gone’ except in the Golan Hghts. coveted by the Larry Summers gang and sinister others.
Can we believe Fauxcahontas’s account of her dinner conversation with the Esteemed Economist?
“After dinner, Larry leaned back in his chair and offered me some advice,” Ms. Warren writes. “I had a choice. I could be an insider or I could be an outsider. Outsiders can say whatever they want. But people on the inside don’t listen to them. Insiders, however, get lots of access and a chance to push their ideas. People — powerful people — listen to what they have to say. But insiders also understand one unbreakable rule: They don’t criticize other insiders.”
Um, yeah, that makes sense, you don’t shit where you eat. Look at Mr. Trump, for example. He coulda been an insider. Instead, he’s shitting where he eats.
Isn’t that really what the bitterness is all about, to the point of ravening madness a la John Brennan?
As I mentioned in a previous comment, Prez ManBaby, having pursued a gambling enterprise in Atlantic City, must surely have had numerous ‘understandings’ and discussions with the more sinister ethnic element ruling in that part of the woods.
He apparently came to some sort of mutually-agreeable conclusion with the Cosa Nostra types, which in their terms means ‘Heads I win – tails you lose’.
I would thus surmise that at this point the only focus of importance is staying in the limelight, getting in those golf games, hosting other VVIP at the Florida facility and maintaining his admiration by those who adore him.
He certainly does not seem to be rocking the boat. Or if he rocks (‘Get out of Syria’) then he quickly adjusts his not-inconsiderable weight into the other direction.
He’s a survivor. At the expense of other, lesser beings, naturally. But he does not challenge superior force.
It will be fun to watch the wiggle and squiggle once everything starts to come unglued. (No it will not.)
In the chaos of Syria’s civil war, the Kurdish population seized the chance to wrest their destiny from the hands of others. There you have a credible party and people.
After repelling government forces in 2012 Syria’s Kurds managed to create a peaceful and stable social order centered in Rojava.
The problem comes in thinking it takes a Harvard Professor to see the obvious. Harvard exists in part to hide the obvious to maintain a social order of an altogether different kind.
One reason among a hundred I know the mainstream news media is fake news is the fact that they have never admitted ISIS is the creation of the CIA & Neo-Con Deep State, Mossad, and the Saudi Royals (among others).
The fact that ISIS fighters were eating Israeli field rations, using brand new American weapons, and flown to Israel for medical treatment should have been a clue. The whole world outside the USA was well aware of ISIS’s true origins.
Thank God we have an alternative citizen media to report what the discredited propaganda presstitutes would keep hidden.
Mossad created ISIS?
what kinda’ Conspiracy Theory is that?
Try something more credible.
Work on your cred, this Conspiracy Theory’s got no legs.
An Americanish star in a circle. Was a jet even downed? Perhaps one crashed and it had a missile on it? Who’s to know?
Sorry, that last remark got posted in the wrong spot.
During the Korean War the Chinese supplied millions of men and armaments to the Norks to kill Americans. They repeated this work in Vietnam populating the Ho Chi Minh Trail nightly with munitions, men and supplies. When Osama Bin Laden was fighting to expel the Russians out of Afghanistan the US of A supplied him with everything he needed to do the job, heck he even wore an M43 Field Jacket didn’t he? Creating bad guys to fight your enemies is no different than creating bad guys to fight your own people, it is the need for a bad guy that must be filled however it may be achieved. How can Americans not realize that the spies, spooks, murderers, and assassins that populate our covert operation agencies do this and have always done this? It is how they operate.
Usually the only to recognize the M43 nomenclature are the ones who were issued them, plus maybe surplus store owners, who are usually vets themselves. I still have my original issue and though I don’t wear it as much as I should these days, it’s still the most practical, versatile and long-lasting coat I’ve ever owned, and thankfully still fits, although admittedly, it feels a little tighter in the middle when I pull up that rugged, oversize zipper. I salute you, sir, for having earned the patches once sewn upon it. (Good trooper that I am, like you I would guess, I removed mine upon ETS IAW the regs!)
P.S. I’m about half way through Ron Chernow’s massive biography of U.S. Grant, having recently finished S.C. Gwynne’s absolutely outstanding bio of Stonewall Jackson, “Rebel Yell.” It was interesting the number of times he described a down on his luck Grant, during his exile years out of the military, shuffling along the street on some menial endeavor, clad in his old dark blue Army coat/cape, sometimes even reduced to selling firewood to feed his family. Amazing to think that seven years later, he would be President Grant and listed among the greatest military generals in history! ·Sticks-of-TNT
It’s well known, Danny. Israel is up to no good. If you want to support them, then you are implicated as well. How strong is the Call of the Blood? Is it everything to you? What about the Self that transcends caste, class, gender, nationality, culture, and race? I thought that was important to you?
It’s a Test. All seekers are tested. Few pass. Few can transcend their body based identities and loyalties.
A test indeed it is JS. I would suggest that instead of Israel being up to no good, it is the Zionists that plot for dominance (and WITH the Vatican these days IMHO). Yes Israel may be ruled by them now, I would not know, but I think there is substantial difference in who is who. I am also very fond and partial towards the Messianic Jews, though I suppose that calling them Jewish Christians would paint a better picture of who they really are.
My aunt feels the same about them. When she would invite me to their services I would tell her I was a messianic druid. She never asked why.
http://messianicdruid.blogspot.com/2005/12/druids-r-us.html
“It’s well known, Danny.” blah, blah, blah.
First of all, it’s Mr Dannyboy to you.
About the rest of your Comment, it’s been repeated so many times here, and I have replied to each of your repeated comments, that I can only conclude that you don’t remember what you have commented previously.
But hey, you do know the word “Self”. It is just sad that you do not Know yourSelf. Yes “the Self that transcends caste, class, gender, nationality, culture, and race” because we are all One, just different. But in your case, very different.
An interesting comment coming from you, Janos.
I’ve been gone, but I wanted to come back to say good bye to you. In fact, I lurked for years and joined up because I found you sufficiently intriguing.
A health issue has forced me to re-evaluate my ability to tolerate being too aware of this cold, cruel world and the nefarious ones who are in charge of it. In other words, I’m severely limiting my exposure to upsetting and worrisome things.
Janos is not the only nut spouting “It’s well known” blah, blah.
I observed many after the War on both Bowery and Times Square with the same rant.
I feel you; you deserve a break, it’s exhausting.
Thank you, Sophia. I may end up doing the same thing soon if Trump doesn’t do something drastic to save us. It’s very late in the day. Good luck with your health. The mind does have a profound effect on the body.
“I’m severely limiting my exposure to upsetting and worrisome things.” – Sophia
“Thank you, Sophia. I may end up doing the same thing soon if Trump doesn’t do something drastic to save us. It’s very late in the day.” – Janos
Janos, an honorable pledge! And coming from you, none the less.
I’m going to hold you to it, what with you being a man of such high principles that his word is his BOND.
hmuller
In searching for news the other day I was struck by the skill with which Blomberg announced that Turkish Forces had gone into Syria because they had ‘a jet shot down by rebels’. No mention that they had been invading for weeks and that the Rebels happened to be the legitimate Rojava government.
They had a nice picture of a jet, American made of course. A simple drawing to make a simple point. A very effective lie. Drawn in blue not black with a American looking star in a circle it was perfect to produce the desired emotional response. E. Bernays would have been proud.
All ‘soap’ being used in this particular cleansing are American weapons.
Mike “Blomberg” publishers to his own ends and benefit. I used to eat in a pizza shop near our offices and when he came in with his goons, I’d get them all riled up (and then leave expeditiously).
Dear Mr Kunstler (may I call you that?):
Why did you delete my comment about the benefits of kale over pepperoni sticks?
Is it verboten to mention your diet?
You best friend from back in the day,
dannyboy
Dannyboy — I deleted your comment because your comments are becoming increasingly frivolous. –JHK
That’s fair.
I’ll be more serious from now on.
U no U gotta get angry w/ *someone* . May as well B me (excuse? l33t-sp33k). You only made 106?!? I’m well over 250 by now… Haha, teh *OTHER* peepz (wut!)!!!
“once you get [a] handle on” Oil?!? Cumon, man – suburbia sprawl, every *LOON* in a car w/ a cell phone…
I heard in 1947 (1948?) *THEY* drew lines that split Iraq into 3 equal (hating?) factions… It might have been a LOT earlier, I’m no genius or expert. I’m certainly no Churchill, downing a fifth of single malt every day (I can barely clear a half a fifth).
Did you say Mossad?!? Sounds liek teh perfect guyz to do a *FRAME UP JOB* . (Why would Ruskies kill sum worthless Englishman [and his daughter]) – *WAIT* – they both still on ‘life support’, no?)
“So Syria became a workshop study in population overshoot and resource scarcity”
And that’s why I keep *CUMIN* back, week after (4 daze)…
I would also challenge you (and the Harvard faculty) to name any credible party or person who we have hypothetically proposed to replace him with.
My suggestion is that Assad be replaced by Haytham Manna, or possibly George Sabra. Either one would be better than Assad. Even Burhan Ghalioun would be better than Assad. There are many worthy candidates to replace Assad. Hillary Clinton met with some of them when she was Secretary of State.
How much did Hillary charge to meet with them when she was Secretary of State? Was it a set fee or was a meter running like in a taxicab?
But hey, it’s all for charity. Remind me, who got most of that “charity”. Not the people of Haiti. But the Clintons did send Laura Silsby to Haiti to kidnap children for sex slavery. “Walnuts” go for $11,000 each on the market, just ask John Podesta. (While you have his attention, ask him how one plays dominoes on pasta and pizza).
Oh but that Hillary’s a class act; “we came, we saw. he died” snicker, snicker. (In reference to Khaddafi’s sodomized and mutilated body)
How many Syrians are you willing to kill to get rid of Assad, Janet?
How many Americans are you willing to kill to get rid of Trump, Janet?
Are you comfortable having the moral values of Pol Pot, Janet?
Donald Trump, the candidate, denounced the “stupid wars” the U.S. has involved itself in.
And now Donald Trump, President of the United States, has selected John Bolton as his new national security advisor. John Bolton is a kiss-up, kick-down authoritarian madman who has never heard of a war, stupid or otherwise, that he didn’t like. He was part of the cabal that got the U.S. into its last supid war (killing up to a million Iraqis in the process).
For anyone interested in getting the flavor of this guy, I suggest listening to the following podcast:
https://theintercept.com/2018/03/30/deconstructed-podcast-will-john-bolton-get-us-all-killed/
My favourite part of that podcast is when the former director-general of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons describes what happened back in 2002, after he had successfully persuaded both Iraq (under Saddam Hussein) and Libya (under Muammar Qaddafi) to join his organization and submit to inspections.
Please keep in mind that the George W. Bush Administration had already made up its mind to invade Iraq, and that it needed the threat of chemical weapons as a pretext. So anything that exposes that pretext as the nonsense that it was (e.g., joining an anti-chemical weapons coalition and submitting to inspections by an NGO) is a threat to the stupid-war agenda. With that as background, enjoy:
A: But then [Bolton] showed up in The Hague, and he came to my office, and he said, “Cheney wants you out. You have 24 hours to leave the organization, and if you don’t comply with the decision by Washington, we have ways to retaliate against you.”
Q: Retaliate. What did he mean by that? Did he say?
A: I didn’t ask! And I said, “Well, I’m not ready to do that. I have no reason to do that. Secretary of State Colin Powell has written me a letter praising my mandate so far, so I cannot understand why is it that I have to leave the organization?” And he said, “You have to be ready to face the consequences, because we know where your kids live.” In fact, I had two sons in New York.
Listen to the whole thing.
Donald Trump is not going to stand between the MIC and endless war for profit. The last president that had the stones to do this was quickly dealt with and every president since then has understood the lesson. Those who might fault Donald for this should be reminded that after all he is only human and apparently wants to remain so for at least a while longer. NO ONE can stand against The New Arms of Krupp!
here: http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/176405/
but about that “Those who might fault Donald for this should be reminded that after all he is only human” THE Donald is not
I understand your point. It is a good one that I cannot argue well so I won’t.
d,
Dehumanization make it easier to eat his lunch?
Mostly it was his inflated ego that made it easy. Also, he’s terrible with numbers. Also, his father took care of him for most of his life, so when Fred wasn’t around it was easy pickings.
No matter the rank or position, desertion is still desertion.
Bolton is not in yet but leaving what is left of Syria for the rape and plunder of Turkey is a total Neo-Con move.
For those unfamiliar with the Neo-Con philosophy regarding foreign affairs, it is to embrace the collapse of the world’s resources by being the ‘last man standing’. Armageddon not adjustment are their marching orders. They plan to stay on top as long as they can and to hell with everyone else. These men are a blend of committed atheists and men who see god sitting long haired on a golden patriarchal throne adorned in flowing gold trimmed robes from ancient times.
“committed atheists”? Please. You are usually more discerning, K-Dog.
Yes, I see what you mean. The brain dead self serving true believer and the self serving men without beliefs at all. Salient point being self serving and without concern for others. That is what I was after.
I listened to the whole thing. Thanks for the link to that podcast.
It is disturbing (but not uncommon) that chickenhawks like John Bolton, who never served in Vietnam or anywhere else, are so willing to send other people’s children into war.
There is still the hope that the Constitution will prevail. It does say that Congress has war making power, not the President and much less the President’s NSA.
Hey, Janet, we agree on something. You are right, I still do not understand the War Powers Act and the freedom that the presidents have had since VietNam to conduct war without legislative authority. The results of Vietnam were horrendous, 59000 killed and on the wall for a calamitous loss. Vietnam was a war in the continuing power game for control of oil. As was WW2, and both wars in Iraq.
The advent of cyber war is scarier than the Cold War, as our way of life can be destroyed with the strike of an execute button. I am in favor of the Mueller investigation for what it was intended for, to investigate how much control Russia has of the computer networks controlling everything in our lives. That is why the witch hunt is secondary, getting rid of Trump is secondary.
Syria is being carved out by the Turks the Iranians the Saudis and the Kurds. The Russians and Americans are leaving Assad, possibly to the mercy of future Israeli targeted strikes? It will also be interesting to see what happens with the Turks, and if they’ll finally lose their NATO membership over their illegal invasion of Syria and their ethnic cleansing of Christians and Kurds.
You suggest four parties are ‘carving it out’. Do they all get a big piece? Is there enough pie to go around? Will they all sit around and smile at each other and eat their pie together?
Assad is in charge in the south and Russia has his back so Israeli will not be doing Assad in. In time Assad will go north and take possession of the emptied lands. We ran, Turkey walks. IRAN has nothing to do with it.
Iran began with south of Lebanon and now controls the whole of Lebanon. Same can easy happen in Syria and Iraq. If you don’t have boots on the ground, you don’t get to control the ground. As I said, Russia and the US are out. So they have very little say as far as what will happen in Syria. The relevant players are those I listed above.
I very much hope the Kurds will their act together and learn how to fight a war. But I don’t see that happening. Nobody else is going to do their fighting for them, not Israel and not the US.
..the Kurds will ^get their act together..
Iran controls Hezbollah and is Iran’s main instrument to try to clobber Israel.
Remember that one of the big problems with trying to unify the factions in Iraq was the disbursement of oil revenues with most of the oil coming from Shia lands and the Sunnis and Kurds wanting a piece of the action. Did not work.
Syria will have the same problem. It needs to be broken into ethnic pieces to ever think about stability. I hear the remaining oil reserves in Syria are at the Golan Heights area. Nuff said.
Yeah, but so far it is Lebanon Syria and Saudia that are getting clobbered by Iran.
Prior to the First World War, The Middle East was a loosely organized region of Islamic tribes that were constantly fighting amongst themselves due to ethnic differences, sorta like the US Native Americans prior to the European invasion. Islam held them together usually under a “superman” religious leader who would unite the Middle East under a single flag to go beat up the latest infidels.
Lawrence of Arabia saw the tribal divisions and took advantage of them to break up the Ottoman Empire pitting the tribes favoring Sunni against Shia. Britain was always good at divide and conquer. Britain and the rest of the allies now had a region that was politically a powder keg. And the oil companies had discovered huge reserves of oil under the entire region. What to do? Divide and maintain, they divided it up into regions that had no real cohesion at all, no ethnic bonding. Which is exactly what they wanted to do to prevent further rebellion against the PTB of the time.
Think about it. Isn’t the continuing struggle in the ME just tribal warfare trying to reset the tribal boundaries? And it started with the creation of Israel in 1948 to give the Muslims that common enemy to rally against. Today, the religious difference between Sunni and Shia is causing more chagrin there than the hatred of the Jewish State. And guess who is taking advantage of that? Russia is a latecomer trying to move chess pieces on the world most popular board game. But the religious difference is overwhelming the area now, with Saudi Arabia and Iran doing proxy warfare in Yemen. The allies are still trying to keep a lid on it, but with differing methods.
A US/Russia partnership to clean up the mess in Syria? US is training a new batch of terrorists on their base at Al-Tanf, using the pool of homeless in the refugee camp next door to the base, and the US trained, armed and paid the terrorists that Russia has killed up to now. So the partnership would be based on an agreement that goes like this: “If you will stop training, arming and paying terrorists to murder Syrians, we will stop killing them.” Seems reasonable to me.
I doubt that the average Harvard faculty member can state with any conviction what the fuck is going on in Syria. == JFK
Most of the confusion regarding the Syrian situation comes from the assumption that the regular state players – US, UK, France, Israel, Russia, Iran, Turkey – are participating in the Syrian conflict on the opposing sides.
And if that is very much the case for Russia and Iran, it is NOT true for the Western players. A large part of Western (US and other) special forces are NOT reporting to the Central Command of their respective countries, but to special interest groups which are in US collectively called the Deep State.
This Western mercenaries groups are being funded by and report to some alternative power groups in the West, which I personally combine under the term Western Black Project (aka Deep State, aka Clinton Flying Monkeys, aka Globalists).
The main purpose of such military groups is to serve as military and terror-tactic advisers to the local Islamist armed formations of paid Islamic mercenaries, which are known under different names such as ISIS, Al Qaeda and Al Nusra (and many more), but they are easily interchangeable – that is the same fighters who yesterday fought under “Syrian Free Army” banners, tomorrow could raise the black banners of ISIS.
Despite not being the State players, such Western groups in Syria could sometimes, using the connections of their patrons in Washington, London and Paris, draw against the State Military resources – last time we witnessed that when the strategic B-52 bombers were used to destroy the Russian regiment near Deir Ezzor and kill up to 300 Russian soldiers – members of the Wagner Private Military Company.
I must add that despite the fact that Russian Special Forces are fighting in Syria under disguise of private mercenaries, they are still 100% controlled by the Russian state. Mostly it is done for propaganda purposes.
But I must also add that BOTH Russian regular military – Air force and Air Defense and “irregular” SpetsNaz are working in Syria under agreement with the local legitimate Syrian government – member of UN and under existing international law.
On the other hand, the presence of legitimate US troops – US Marines and US Special forces is regulated under the agreement with Russian Federation about the prevention of military conflicts.
The mercenaries of the Western Deep State are there completely illegally.
“On the other hand, the presence of legitimate US troops – US Marines and US Special forces is regulated under the agreement with Russian Federation about the prevention of military conflicts.
The mercenaries of the Western Deep State are there completely illegally.”
see above Re: Blackwater!
Runs through our Education Secretary.
Right, and who is the US et al supporting. We seem to always back who the hell knows who. Russia is right on this one, Assad is the only horse to back. Ask the Deep State who will be the head of Syria if Assad was to die tomorrow and I do not think you would get an answer.
What needs to happen is the Middle East figure out the best fit for its geopolitics and everyone else get the hell out of Dodge. It might even take some bickering to get the answer, but if the rest of the world butts out, it won’t be major and it will be short lived. It will definitely split Sunni and Shia with the major players SA and Iran. If stability is the goal, border definitin is paramount. If discord is the goal to keep the oil flowing, we are doing a wonderful job of that now, much to the chagrin of the people of the ME.
Interesting question. What would happen tomorrow if the Tethys oil deposits dried up?
Assad is not Russia, Assad is Iran. Iran is freaking everyone in the region. The $85 billion Iran received from the US does not help things either.
Who do you think is supporting the nuclear technology in Iran and thus NOKO. Russia has sold its nuclear technology since the 1990’s as with oil it is the only thing they have to trade. Russia is Iran. Iran is Assad. Iran IS trying to control the ME. Their belief that they are bigger and better stems from the Persian Empire. It never stops. I do not get what the US is even doing in Syria, backing the rebels who were using ISIS to fight Assad??? If we and the Russians just left, what would happen?
What would happen If someone gave a war, and nobody came?
Yes, I know that’s the conventional thinking, but I don’t subscribe to it. Where you see Russia I see China. In my equation things look like this:
China = > NorKor = > Iran = > Syria
Just like you’re asking what the hell is the US doing there, I’m asking what the hell is Russia doing there. Seems both the US and Russia came to same conclusion we have. That leaves China. China is behind the technology transfers to Iran, and is the reason its US agents gave Iran billions in US funds frozen in Chinese banks.
The man who mistook a handshake for a call to battle is being handed the baton, or as he would say, bahtohn. Eager to establish his couilles on the international stage, he struts up to the platform with hand discreetly tucked into his jacket to respond to l’appel au combat.
Not to worry one little bit about Syria and other garden spots in the Near East, Southwest Asia, Horn of Africa, and Arabian Peninsula theatres of American (plus NATO) military operations. Why?
How the hell else is the PArty of War, NEOCON conspiratorial cabal, and Puzzle Palace professionals going to justify the on-paper 700 billion dollar defense budget without instability everywhere? They can’t so the best they can do is stick there greasy bloody mitts into every proxy war, insurgency and regime that doesn’t jibe with the hyper-Capitalist, NWO, Globalist American Program.
Consider that after all they have done to defeat the ISIS proto-state; the Kurds have not been given a nation of their own – damning testimony to the mendacity of the Evil Fuckers. The same dynamic applies to India – the second largest population in the world; a multi-ethnic democracy, a huge nuclear-armed military, and economy growing more powerful by the day. Why don’t they have a seat on the Security COuncil of the U.N.? Same reasons; the Evil Fuckers don’t want them to have it as it would upset the power equation of the legacy European powers who, by the way, can’t control immigration or the buidling civil violence in their own streets.
I am a prepper of sorts. It is my belief that someone, state sponsored or not, is going to shut down civilization as we know it. We will not know what is happening at the end of the block never mind across the sea. Chaos is the game. Controlled chaos. When the chaos becomes uncontrolled and it will, then game over. Cyberattack.
Don’t forget about the “Hope for the Best” part.
Not ALL “Prepare for the worst”.
“Don’t forget about the “Hope for the Best” part.”
I’m outta here…”~dannyboy
Yes, the preparations fall under “Prepare for the Worst”, if that eventuality comes to pass, then it falls under “Hope for the Best”.
See how that kinda’ planning works. Maximizes your outcomes. That kind of thinking could make a man happy, rich and engaged with Life.
It is only wise to prepare for things that may happen to disrupt our cozy, comfy and warm lifestyles RB, keep up the good work. Last month, most of the homes in my West Jersey county lost electric power for over a week again. This is the third year out of 6 years that this has happened. While being prepared in just about every way, the one thing that was not able to be replaced was the ability to get into Cyberspace to check on what was happening outside of our little Mountain Valley. Those of us that come here to check out what is going on outside of our small realms are very reliant upon the Internet and when it is removed the need is felt sorely. Like you say it lends itself to Chaos and while some will argue that there will be no mass Chaos in our future, many of us still understand that there are those that live to bring us all Absolute and Total Chaos as their goal. Keep your powder dry and your nose to the wind.
Do include a Geiger counter in the tool set. When the fuel rods are left unattended and so will vaporize it will be good to know where the last cold spots are to be found.
> It is my belief that someone… is going to shut down civilization as we know it.
Imagine what a few groups, each with a few $Trillion might feel compelled to do and could do.
Be where ya wanna be before martial law is declared.
~toktomi~
In retaliation for the killing near city of Khasham of Russian troops working as mercenaries for private military company Wagner, the Russian Central Command planned and successfully conducted a large-scale military operation in Eastern Ghuta, near the Syrian capital of Damascus.
Large regiments of various Islamic mercenaries under the command of Western “instructors” – reporting to the Deep State and not to the corresponding Western Governments, are being rooted out wholesale.
Immediately, the Western media, under control of the Deep State, started a propaganda campaign about Russians killing innocent civilians and Syrian government preparing a chemical attack against the population.
To make it more convincing, the field labs for production of weaponised military agents were delivered to Eastern Ghouta and preparation were on the way for staging large scale provocation.
Unfortunately for our Western Friends and Partners, the advancing Russian Special Forces were able to capture a large number of Western “instructors”, US Former Special forces and members of UK elite SAS.
Many of them are willing to talk and a threat of military tribunal looms on the horizon – use of military-grade chemical weapons is a war crime.
The anti-Russian hysteria of UK Theresa May and Boris Johnson have immediately followed.
I think the point is well made throughout the article that the US (or any other power) will not be able to sufficiently deal with these massive changes that are occurring with food & water insecurity, overpopulation, weak state gov’t, etc.
Moving millions (or billions) of people from one geographic area to another is a complete non-starter, as well. It’s absurd.
I think its a matter of fact that more stable nations will need to share more burden. Many of them already are. Countries like Turkey, for example, that has a million or more Syrian refugees.
If anything, the ME is a symptom of much too much US intervention in a region. It will take many decades or more for Iraq to come into some kind of stable semblance. It’s been like a Pandora’s Box.
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Global%20Trends_Mapping%20the%20Global%20Future%202020%20Project.pdf
Interesting set of predictions by the US intel community in 2005 for 2020.
One interesting paragraph (among others) is that there will be continued outsourcing of jobs and the US middle class continues to weaken. I’m not sure how anybody would think this is a ‘good’ for our society, but perhaps Trump’s insistence on changing trade policies isn’t so dumb.
Worth a read, anyway. The section on the dominance of Fossil Fuels in 2020 is interesting.
Your pdf reminds me of the Rockefeller plan…..
https://www.scribd.com/document/100607916/Scenarios-for-the-Future-of-Technology-and-International-Development
But it’s fine when tens of millions of non-Whites invade our nations though, right? That’s utterly feasible, practical, natural, and at the same time, the height of virtue to accept, nay, laud, praise, glorify and revel in, Right?
Janos, you and I both know that this is being done for a very logical, yet diabolical reason, don’t we? The best way to destroy an enemy is to get them to accept the destruction isn’t it? Those who plot against us can accomplish victory without any casualties of their own and the Common American Idiots will never know anything until it is too late to stop it. Next stop – disarmament!
Largely due to a disordered Christianity that became Political Correctness. Humility toward God was transferred to world objects, namely humility before other Men – to a degree which simply grotesque reducing the “devotee” to less than a Man.
But I must say, some of Christ’s saying support this, alas. Turn you other cheek to an abuser, give you cloak to a thief, etc are disordered charity, the kind that simply cannot be LIVED in the real world. Even monks would be chastised for giving away their provisions because they would then have to be replaced from somewhere by someone. Such “virtue” is very expensive indeed, and would have to be bourn by the faithful.
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. The Master was the anti-PC incarnate was He not Janos? And turning the other cheek and handing out charity to a thief may be questionable, yet are a world apart from inviting millions of your own murderers into your land because they are not man enough to offend them.
Disordered or even demented Christianity is a very good term to describe how the mentally weak are taken advantage of, but your comment of turning humility toward God into a transfer to worldly object is a new classic. Well said, I love it, it is exactly what has happened.
Moving millions (or billions) of people from one geographic area to another is a complete non-starter, as well. It’s absurd.
USAs population has doubled since 1965. Huge move in 3rd world people to USA.
China has 100 million homeless. They wander, iso work.
This whole Skripal poisoning/Diplomat War story to a large extent revealed strategic tendencies that have been maturing for a long time and are de facto putting the struggle of Western Colored Projects to the full display, the struggle which can no longer hide behind the struggle between countries and economic systems.
Weak post this week, and Jim knows it, but leave it to our wheelchair generals to spew their usual brilliance……
You need to be exorcised.
Weak post my foot. Syria may be the Franco Spain proxy fight of today. That debacle for Europe was one of the causes for WW2. The West needs to get out of the Middle East and get the Middle East out of the West, they are incomparable.
I have a close friend on General Maddis’ staff that, like all real insiders never says anything in the way of details during discussions, but has been advising me to keep my eye on Estonia. The last time I was told this, last week, I said that I was much more worried about Syria. The immediate response was, “So are we, so are we”. IMHO, everything else is distraction. Damascus is the key. I have stated this before and will continue to do so. Do not forget to check out Isaiah 17.
How far away from Damascus is the site for Armageddon?
Damascus is 136 miles from Jerusalem and the Jezreel Valley and Megiddo are all close enough together though there is no definitive proof of which or where Armageddon may take place. There are many however that see this all panning out as it was written, at least according to some….
http://www.stephensizer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Syria-and-end-times-map-1024×780.jpg
New York rumors
As a preamble to the next post, in which I will try to sum up the results of the just concluded first stage of Trump’s presidency and indirectly of world politics over the past 4 years.
And one of the main results of this year and a half of Trump’s presidency is the final manifestation of the religious character of the world civil war that is taking place in the United States.
Yesterday it was manifested in the changes that have occurred during this time with my acquaintances who are parishioners of the Trinity Cathedral of the city of New York.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archdiocesan_Cathedral_of_the_Holy_Trinity
Those who wish can go to the link and get acquainted with the long list of celebrities associated with this church, but in this post the most important circumstance is that it was there on September 18, 1999, the naming of the leader of the American Archdiocese, Archbishop Demetrios of America had taken place, under whose direction Republican Convention in July 2016 prayed for the victory of Donald Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archbishop_Demetrios_of_America
Orthodox prayer at the end of the Republican Convention:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9rGDemz6Z4
And yesterday my acquaintances from this church send me a lot of stories about the fact that every business day in the White House begins with a prayer and that the Americans transfer to Orthodoxy by entire parishes.
I do not know if it’s true (I personally have big doubts about this), but I know for sure that when I was totally euphoric immediately after the unconditionally wonderful victory of Donald Trump on November 8, 2016, I predicted precisely this precisely to these people, they made a laughing stock out of me.
Real (not Fake) New York rumors:
The moneyline favors the roundup and arrest of The Donald, Jared et al in one sweep. Date is favored for Mueller calling in Prosecutors and FBI to sweep on the last day his “witnesses” have sung.
I am familiar with the gossip at Trinity Church. My boss, Thomas Renyi, Chair Bank of New York major contributor.
This time, it is not about money.
new to nyc?
It is always about money to those that worship it and those that cannot ever get enough of it to fund their lavish lifestyles. But you are right Fincain, the time fast approaches when money and its ability to fund and control humans will be replaced by the hobnailed boot and lead projectiles slamming into human flesh. Money only controls the masses during civilized times. Violence replaces it once chaos rules. To anyone who tells me that chaos is not fast approaching I say – get your eyes checked or sober up, you choose.
Sleeping well?
Appetite good?
Does exercise come easily?
Are you enjoying relationships?
Satisfied with liesure time?
Enjoying hobbies?
Is family comforting?
As a matter of fact danny, yes, yes, and yes to all of your questions. Though old and beat up I remain large and powerfully built and can outwork men half my age. I still work my ass off for fun and enjoy my wonderful children and lovely wife though she constantly defeats me in battle. I have more than any man could ask for and I can fix or build anything and everything that is given me to do. It has been a great life and relatively cheap as well, though I am as financially secure as fiat and hard currencies can make a man. And it is so peaceful and quiet out here in the woods on my mountain that visitors call it my bed & breakfast. God has blessed me beyond my ability to deserve it and I am forever thankful for His grace.
Walter, you sound like a satisfied man. You must have done somethings to deserve it.
God takes care of those that keep Faith with Him. I have worked long and hard in my day and now that I have semi-retired, I do so much in my Township and my community for others (some extremely stressful), I often question my own sanity. I do and have always slept like a rock though and that is the best reward I can think of.
Walter,
I too have worked best as I could. I recently explained to a young graduate that my 2 longest careers were Teaching, which was the hardest job I ever had, and Wall Street, where I went after Teaching because I saw that all that was required was looking good in a suit and having the proper table manners to pick up the check. In total I worked 50 years at varied (very varied) vocations.
Now I do as I like. My freedom has brought me to the Chairmanship of a multi-national education organization. I, like you remain involved in local governments, including a long-drawn battle with our Town Board over tourism. I’ll probably talk them to submission, or death.
We differ in ‘sanity checks’. I am certain of my Self in these very uncertain times.
When you concluded with ” I do and have always slept like a rock though and that is the best reward I can think of.” I realized that I was correct in calling you a “satisfied man”. In fact you are a Fulfilled Man, as one can only sleep soundly if he has acted soundly during his day.
Wow, danny, you and I as obviously different as we are and how we see things, banging it out to the point where we now sit here on the same page singing the same song? We had better be careful because if this kind of thing becomes popular, the New Krupps may hunt us down lest we negatively impact their sales of arms to those who cannot accomplish this. Thank you, this is so good to see. We need this, we all need to do this more frequently. Peace.
Walter,
The principle of the non-profit I began is “We are All One, only different”. Our purpose is peace through understanding and cooperate action.
You seem decent enough and so I apologize for using the rules of debate as a criticism earlier.
Now, as a “Dutch Uncle”; when I read comments like: “control humans will be replaced by the hobnailed boot and lead projectiles slamming into human flesh. Money only controls the masses during civilized times. Violence replaces it once chaos rules.” I wonder if you might be exposing your inner emotion a bit much.
If you conceive of oppressors, then some of these words will be used against you someday.
I am concerned that history will repeat itself as the progressives indicate from their violent rhetoric. My ancestors had to live on both sides of the Reich, both fighting to stay alive within it and fighting to destroy it by attacking it with military force. If the US economics go South, which is a real possibility control with paper must be replaced with force, that is my point.
That being the prognosis, I should thank you for this:
Walter B
April 2, 2018 at 6:39 pm #
And criticism qualifies as the art of debate? I think your future Mexican neighbors are calling you home. Fly, be free.
Recently returned from Tulum. Like visiting with family.
Have been a bit North of there in Cancun myself once with the wife, but it’s all a bit too warm for my northern European constitution, but to each his own. I may be wrong, I understand, and it all may turn out peachy in the end, but like our host, I see the greedy not being very benevolent when competition for “stuff” gets serious. I shall not lose any sleep over the possibilities, nor should you, for obsession with potential conflict is counterproductive. We should concentrate on doing our best to make it better while we can and I am guessing that this would be your plan as well. Be good.
“I shall not lose any sleep over the possibilities, nor should you, for obsession with potential conflict is counterproductive. We should concentrate on doing our best to make it better while we can…”
That’s exactly my view and why I don’t fall in with the fearmongers. I live in a street of 4-storey Victorian flats. When the WMBH comes in we will be among the less favoured. We will survive as a community/society or we won’t survive at all. My immediate neighbours and I won’t be fighting each other for ‘stuff’ or food. I’ll back out and leave the food to those who have the stomach for the fight. The post-civilisation world holds no attraction for me.
So, as with the people who live right below the dam, there’s just no point in worrying. Worrying is for those with options. I’ve had a decent life and the only worrying I’ll do is for the next generation – of my family and beyond. There’s little I can do for them either as things stand. We can’t all buy ourselves a little plot to grow food and raise hens – nor can most of those who can do so hope to defend it. They can’t all go full Steven Bullock. And a rife and ammo won’t do the trick either, in a country full of rifles and ammo.
WMBH here hides under the banner of “America First, but the phrase “America first” also has a darker recent history.
And why the “Worrying is for those with options. I’ve had a decent life and the only worrying I’ll do is for the next generation – of my family and beyond. There’s little I can do for them either as things stand.”?
While I agree that worry is unproductive there ARE MANY OPTIONS against those trying to bring back the past. Theirs is a fools errand run by fools (see me comments on The Don throughout).
We have the future to create!
A great conversation we have going here danny, thanks for keeping it alive. One of my many faults is that I tend to lose patience with those that deny the possibilities for change or refuse to at least consider options raised by others. You understand that this plane of existence is ruled by change and that those that are best able to adapt to change are those that survive and sometimes even thrive. I am certain that all things grow old and die, decay and then die, including all systems and societies created by man. There are none that spiral infinitely into perfection. If things remain doable here as it is, I wish you the best of everything. If the escape hatch needs to be utilized one day, you have my sincerest wishes of good fortune on the road and wherever you may find yourself. You take good care my friend, I will see you tomorrow, same time same place.
Walter
“One of my many faults is that I tend to lose patience with those that deny the possibilities for change or refuse to at least consider options raised by others.”
Some of us started making changes years ago. One of JHK’s main themes is an America in thrall to the car. I got rid of mine 15 years ago for the sake of our children – including yours.
But that won’t help me when the rest of you are finally dragged into a car-less world.
I’m taking bets on how quickly Republicans can crash the economy and blame Democrats, Russians, protests, unions and the other usual scapegoats. I say by Memorial Day.
Then they will all say the same thing Phil Gramm said about voters and the public in 2009. They will claim that voters are just whining and complaining and should just buck up and learn to take it.
Meanwhile, the Lords of Corporatism will be buying everything not nailed down at firesale prices.
Ahhh … welcome to the good times people.
The other suspects/scapegoats being: minorities, immigrants, anyone from California, sick people, old people, handicapped people, gun provocateurs, teachers, public employees, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, government bureaucrats, The Deep State, …
add your own list.
Illegal immigrants drive down wages. Simple supply and demand economics. Labor used to understand that and saw them for what they are: Scabs.
Since you can’t get something so simple, one questions your acumen about other things as well. I say this as a fellow socialist, an American First Socialist.
“I say this as a fellow socialist”
Janos, I don’t believe you are a fellow anything.
You hate N.Y except for lower and middle Manhattan.
“You hate N.Y except for lower and middle Manhattan.” – Janos
How can you be wrong on EVERYTHING?
I LIVE in UPPER MANHATTAN.
MY son lives in Northern Bronx.
My daughter lives in Brooklyn Heights.
It’s at least an Ideology problem that’s playing your brain.
“immigrants drive down wages”
Immigrants create jobs, janos. They make the pie bigger. They actually provide jobs for native-born citizens.
“For instance, we know that immigrants start businesses at a much higher rate than natives. We also know that they are overrepresented in the high tech industry, with one study finding that immigrants founded more than half of U.S. startups valued at over $1 billion. Lastly, while the data has only recently become available, there is some evidence that immigrant businesses grow faster on average than those started by natives.”
Who Creates Jobs? Immigrants as Entrepreneurs.
https://isps.yale.edu/news/blog/2016/11/who-creates-jobs-immigrants-as-entrepreneurs
“Immigrants create jobs, janos. They make the pie bigger. They actually provide jobs for native-born citizens.” — janet
Lots of people fall for this canard. I used to be one. Yes, there are some who do but on balance, immigrants become wards of the welfare state and extract wealth from the nation. You can’t use the exception to prove the rule.
Janet, you are simply wrong. Illegal immigrants are net tax consumers. Amnesty will only increase this drastically. How much revenue will the caravan of Central American migrants who are currently on a “walkathon for open borders” generate once they arrive at the sanctuary state of California?
Apparently Jigplate the uneducated do not realize that when the European, Asian and all other early immigrants came to America in the 1800-1900’s, there was NO welfare state! You know, da free money and EBT cards, don’t leave home without it!
What will crash the economy is the Non sustainability of growth due to restrictions of income inequality and resource inavailabilty. JHK has been harping on this for a decade. Between the elites raping us with mergers and automation and oil getting harder to obtain and more expensive, Trump’s attempt to remove economic impediments will be like a BB in a box car, unfortunately. I think this is what the markets are starting to sign up to. Trying to take thirty years of political thievery and trying to blame it all on Trump is evidence of the ignorance the Left is living with.
or stealing and corruption.
One of us gotta’ be right.
Go on over to Counterpunch for an article discussing this whole situation. As it points out in the article “The Warm War: Russiamania at the Boiling Point”, the situation today is that the Russians are afraid of war (with America), but are prepared for it, while the American “government” is NOT afraid of war (with Russia) but is NOT prepared for it.
The arrogance and hubris of American administrations since the fall of the Soviet Union has now reached the stage where war is almost becoming inevitable with Russia; it’s just a matter of where America pushes things too far. Russians have it ingrained in their collective memories what war is, having lost almost 26 million of their citizens and suffered a devastated nation defeating Hitler in WW II; Americans think war’s a no-cost video game that never, ever visits the “Homeland”.
My fear and expectation is that with the new, improved “war cabinet” that Trump has concocted with Pompeo and Bolton, we will all soon experience, up close and personal, how suicidal their tendencies are. Isn’t it special that they’re willing to throw the dice with our lives.
I will tell you what the deal is. We have too many experts spouting off that have been dumbed down by our illustrious Deep State and its propaganda machine known as the Department of Education. Most of the Deep State want one hing, dissolution of the balance of powers between state and local and the Federal government. Their goal is a Federal socialist state and the destruction of the Constitution. Recently, they are winning. To rally the troops, we need that common enemy, Russia.
The arrogance and hubris of American administrations since the fall of the Soviet Union
I wouldn’t say that it was ALL American administrations, just the Clinton’s administration (still can’t figure out which one of them Clintons)
George W. Bush managed to see a soul in the eyes of Putin and established well working relationship with the owner of that soul – Russia was very cooperative during the war in Afghanistan.
Obama tried his best to improve relationship with Russia, he did not allow the bombing of Syria in 2013 to take place, but he did suffered from influence of his Secretary of State.
Trump is following the Obama path, though his hands are still tied by anti-Russian propaganda in the Media.
Trump Invited Vladimir Putin to the White House, Says Kremlin
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kremlin-says-donald-trump-has-invited-vladimir-putin-to-the-white-house
Americans are very often unfair to their leaders.
A consequence of the fear of governmental domination by our Founding Fathers.
+100!
The government is not your friend.
Sorry folks
“[…] The US has long militated for the overthrow of Assad, but I would also challenge you (and the Harvard faculty) to name any credible party or person who we have hypothetically proposed to replace him with. […]”
One can always resort to the Fake News Delivery Machine’s coined “moderate radicals / moderate extremism”.
All you anti-Americans who find it convenient to blame everything on the US and now Trump always forget one little fact. There are two sides to every conflict. Yeah, we have fought wars to protect the American credo and more importantly, oil sources. But there has been an enemy there to take things away from us if we didn’t fight for our beliefs and resources. I laugh at the complainers as they would be the first to complain if their cars and electricity no longer worked and they woke up one morning looking at socialistic control of their lives. We fight wars in other places to avoid fighting them here. So does Russia who will never let a foreign power onto its homeland again.
Jim, you told me that you didn’t like puns. But I guess its you’re website.
===That was a half-century ago and I remember it now at age 106 thanks to my diet of kale and pepperoni sticks.===
Actually,Mr.Kunstles,you are not that old.On December 1,1969 we both played the same lottery.Or,to be more precise,Rep. Al Pirnie played it for all of us.With your number being 241 your only regret is that you missed a lot of fun.That kind of REAL fun that would not cost you a dime.
My number was way above the cut-off so I just waited for the draft notice.And eventually got it in the mail.No surprises there.
But my friend was all-around lottery winner.Not only was he #1 but he was #1 in this particular pipeline,his initials being J J J.He did not even wait but triple-volunteered for the Army,Airborne and SF.If this does not fit the definition of a Celebrity I don’t know what is a Celebrity.
Got my draft notice and trip down to Whitehall Street”, later immortalized by Pete Seeger’s son.
correction: “Woody Guthrie’s” son, Arlo.
Father rapers!
“rappers”
d,
No, rapers. “mother rapers…father rapers…FATHER RAPERS sittin right next to me….”
“Dear Congressman,
I take pen in hand to complain about my Piece. After months of assiduous care and maintenance of the weapon (M-16) it failed to function at a critical moment endangering my Life and the lives of other men in this Company. Last night, at 0300 hours (3 AM.) I had a clear, unobstructed shot at the Captain. To my Chagrin. the Weapon misfired. It may be weeks before I get another crack at the Bastard and in the meantime I am subjected to the ridicule of my associates and can kiss good-bye the $2,000 in the Company Pool.
One Mad G.I.”
This letter is in the Congressional Records.Author remains unidentified to this day.Acute case of False Modesty if you wish.Judging by his vocabulary he was/is probably from Louisiana,avid reader of Walter Scott “Ivanhoe” and other such chivalrous books.
Regardless of this contrived letter, most “fragging” incidents in Nam involved black GIs trying to take out the company CO.
Oh yeah,days are numbers.
https://web.archive.org/web/20120915232321/http://www.sss.gov/LOTTER8.HTM
“..overcooked story of Vladimir Putin personally moving to poison the Russian/ British double agent Skirpal (and daughter)..”
Seriously, Jim? Putin is the absolute dictator of Russia and somehow an ex double agent and daughter are poisoned with a nerve agent only the Russian military has access to. And don’t forget the other former spy who was poisoned with ricin or plutonium a few years ago, as well as the dozens of journalists who dared to criticize the president for life. They all ended up murdered.
Thanks to America’s first black president, and female secretary of state, the negro slave trade has been revived in Libya – where one can now purchase a human being for as little as $100 (“We came, we saw, he died, cackle cackle”). Will Syria be next?
Yes, the laughing devil, who could forget her murderous mirth?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmIRYvJQeHM
Black slavery is only wrong when Whites do it. Otherwise, it’s just part of their culture. Just like female mutilation or dancing boys in the case of the Afghans. What hypocrites these Liberals are!
People throw “Zionists” around but can’t save their life if asked what the term means or how it originated. Mt, Zion’s threshing floor was PURCHASED by King David for his castle in Jerusalem. Later this vicinity became site of Jewish Temples, still another coming.
Every time the misinformed use term “Zionist” they are affirming a 3000 year verity… See 2 Samuel 5 v-7 and 2 Samuel 24 v-18 for original reference to Mt. Zion. Also referenced “City Of David” -Jerusalem. Scripture shows Jerusalem as “God putting his name” on Jerusalem. See this: “Yaweh/Shalom” GOD”S PEACE.
Jewish ownership of the Temple Mount is unquestionable. Other assertions are from the mouths of Johnny-Come-Latelies…… A recent POTUS who claimed to “be a Christian” showed time after time complete ignorance and disavowal of the responsibilities and requisites of Bible-believing servants of Christ. He is without excuse. But not irredeemable!
I believe the Holy of Holies part of the Temple was the rock on which Abraham almost sacrificed Isaac.
Without Judaism there is no Christianity. By rejecting Judaism, Yan, you are embracing Islam. If you don’t understand this, look at Europe. That’s your fate. A hate filled land thieving mass murdering fanatical Jihadist.
And the only people worshiping at the wall of Fort Antonia are Vatican agents. These are the people the Vatican media likes to portray as “Jews”, when they are nothing of the kind. I’ve lived long enough both in Israel and abroad to see and understand this very well.
So the Hasidim are all Vatican? Good to know. No doubt they have rosary beads under those hats.
I will worship at the Wall of Trump if it ever gets built – which look doubtful at this point. And yes, I would burn incense to his spirit or genius. This isn’t the same as saying that such a Caesar is the Eternal Father. Christianity blew it when they made a big issue of a simple showing of loyalty to the Roman Emperor.
Under them Middle Ages Polack Vatican black uniforms is the Pope’s zucchetti. Coincidence? As I said many times I don’t believe in coincidences.
They also share the same Vatican cult of personality as you do. Coincidence Again?
People that can analyze literature and literary devices understand perfectly that Christianity is little more than Caesar worship dressed up as “Jewish prophecy”.
You need to read the New Testament – and stop being afraid of the Cross. You’re a human being, not a Vampire!
No, Yan. I’m not afraid of your Cross, I’m repulsed by its lies. You on the other hand thrive on lies and the malice imbedded in their machinations.
Is it all not a question of semantics 4014? If the term Zionist is used to refer to any or even all of those that believe that Jews deserve a nation stat of their own, then I say this is an oversimplification and I challenge the correctness of the use of the term.
http://zionism-israel.com/Zionists.htm
Those who believe that it should be acceptable to gun down rock throwing simpletons or to snipe them off for sport without a trial or any further work than just catching them in your sights, THEY are what I would call Zionists. I cannot see any country, any race, any group demanding that they be given the totalitarian authority over human life once seized by the Nazi’s or the Stalinists. Those that insist on claiming ultimate authority without any means of control from without and who hide under the mantle of Judaism, these are what I refer to when I say Zionist.
“THEY are what I would call Zionists.”
not
but nice transition
kinda’ segwayed in there
Logical Fallacies violate the art of debate. See here: http://www.csun.edu/~dgw61315/fallacies.html
And criticism qualifies as the art of debate? I think your future Mexican neighbors are calling you home. Fly, be free.
Walter, when someone declared your land as theirs, that is a declaration of WAR. In war, the second you pick up a weapon, you are a legitimate target for military action. My only regret is that the Israeli Zionists so far have refused to really engage the Gaza Jihadists with a serious militarily response, and confine their actions to largely police action.
But what are those of us who denounce violence and have no tolerance for murder to do? Perhaps my time in this plane of existence and my patience with its violent inhabitants nears its end.
Funny, but the scenario you describe sounds a lot like what happened in North America starting in 1492.
In 1492 BCE the word Arab wasn’t even coined. Your Jihadi natives are natives of Arabia. Israel is not Arabia. I wish Israel would make that clear to the Arabs in the most brutal way possible, and not be at all embarrassed about it. There’s nothing to be embarrassed about when talking to any “North Americans” or “Europeans” passing out morality lessons to Jews/Zionists or anyone else.
They too are Sons of Abraham, sons of Ishmael the elder Son. God said they would be a Mighty Nation and so they are – with every right to Palestine, equal if not greater than that of the Jews (who come from all over, with many descents and races). In other words, their Abrahamic roots are much stronger and more pure.
Abraham sent these wild donkeys to the Arabian desert and there they should remain. There’s plenty of room there for them. The Jihadist fscks control 1/3 of the globe, but nazi fscks like you are only content when Jews are thieved from humiliated and murdered. You are an anathema to god. You and your people will disappear.
” Jews (who come from all over, with many descents and races)”
– Janos
Guess you’ve given up on your defunct theory of Jew as race.
Well there are the classic bloodlines and even the genetic marker of Aaron apparently. No doubt some of these pure ones as well as the Khazar Nobility hate the fact that Israel is becoming colored, be it Jewish or just generic African. Some of the latter are going to be sent to America. Thanks!
The Western Wall was one of the walls of the Temple torn down by the Romans in AD 70. Jesus and the advent of Christianity was a signal to Jews and Christians alike that their job was to spread the faith of Yahweh world wide and the Jewish Diaspora happened to drive the seed out into the world. Christ chose Paul for the same function amongst Christians. Both forms of the same religion took over Western civilization. Does anyone think God cares who carries his message?
Confirmed from my side.
You know, there are Jews who walk among you on this site that can be asked.
Lewis Black does a whole routine about this. Very insightful piece of art.
Not one Jew alive believes in Judeo-Christianity. It’s strictly a marketing campaign targeted at gentiles. They are different and hostile religions by and large. We used to know that when we still had spines and valued our own skin, both in the personal and cultural sense.
Jews who accept Christ? Maybe. But they are often hated by other Jews. Traditionally, a mother will sit Siva (sp?) for days in mourning of their child who has died – left Judaism for Christianity in other words. Becoming a Buddhist doesn’t seem to inspire such drama. I wonder what becoming a worshiper of Shiva would do?
I feel for the Jews who do not accept Jesus as their savior. What a thought, that no matter what you do you are not saved by Jesus’ sacrifice. Christ taught his followers that if a community would not accept his teachings to dust off their sandals as they left and go on to the next village. So be it.
It may be argued that the advice of Jesus will never be universally heeded, yet it cannot be argued that His example would lead to paradise on Earth. Yet the fools turn to war, murder and death-dealing instead. The horror, the horror.
Jews believe in witnessed fact. Every “miracle” in the TaNaKh was a witnessed fact. Fairy stories invented propagated by Caesar are fairy stories invented and propagated by Caesar.
It is apparent that you are Also Known As MoFo for good reason. Bless you anyway bro!
“Not one Jew alive believes in Judeo-Christianity.” – Janos
How can you ALWAYS BE WRONG? Conflicted Ideaology perhaps?
As I wrote 4 hours ago:
“You know, there are Jews who walk among you on this site that can be asked.
Lewis Black does a whole routine about this. Very insightful piece of art.”
-dannyboy
What’s your favorite saying or deed of Christ? I like when he drove the moneychangers out of the Temple saying, My Father’s House shall be a House of Prayer. You have turned it into a Den of Thieves.
You should preach in Harlem. That’s New York too, you know.
“You should preach in Harlem. That’s New York too, you know.”
I LOVE Harlem. Life in Harlem is better than the best day in your hood.
Get out much?
He’s right Janos, Manhattan has been almost totally rebuilt with the money that the Wall Street’ers were able to steal from the country’s pension funds and the failed mortgage crisis. They are now bilking the world out of cash through control of the water supply. I hear the Bowery is now devoid of drunken bums and has been converted to million dollar condos! All of the low life poor have been shipped off to New Jersey and surrounding states which is now spurring the construction of what they call “affordable housing” which the Moneylenders will make a fortune off of as well.
You’ve got to hand it to these parasites, they really know how to manipulate the masses for their own aggrandizement. And when it all craps out they will simply migrate to a new host in places like Mexico. I hope it works out for them because I would not trust the drug cartel people that run places like that with MY future. Of course, the rich guys probably own them as well, right? Better them than me is all I can say.
Walter: I will not disagree. It sounds entirely plausible and you seem to know a lot about such things, and you are close by in New Jersey to boot.
Danny: But does Harlem love you? I want you to preach in Black Churches and on street corners. Not just the gentrified White/Jewish areas.
Janos, quit emulating the Jews. You are just too obvious.
As always, you answer my questions with more questions. Not a good look on you, as you lack both the charm and sophistication to pull it off smoothly.
Yes Walter is an expert on New Jersey, and it shows. NYC, not-so-much. But Janos as you have an inclination to always be wrong, I suggest you continue to get all of your insights from him.
My mother was born and grew up in Harlem. Get straight Janos, before it’s too late for you.
Messianic Jews, Jews for Jesus.
The USA government has warring factions within it, each with their own agendas, each with control of certain levers, each with their own strategies and machinations. They meddle in each others affairs, they sabotage, they interfere with foreign and domestic policies which is very counter-productive. There is no transparency. There is no cooperation and participation on a clear an open agenda, because the “mission” of our country has never been spelled out or delineated to the population. Because of this, our country is moving into its protracted demise and death throes. It will be a short life as far as empires go. (The evil and/or animalistic aspect of man is once again destroying the game.)
All empires dissolve from within.
But the US is not there yet. First needed: a civil war, dictatorial rule,
loss of verve, outsourcing of defense as the native population can no longer yield acceptable material for the army, ostentatious pomp at the top,…
You see any of this now?
Didn’t President Trump just put the kibosh on the purchase of Qualcomm by China because they produce seriously critical defense/weapon software/hardware? And what about those fighter jet parts that came up defective and with back doors that were purchased from China? This area has already been long under attack, though the extent of the infiltration is going to be impossible to determine here.
It is strange. If one considers China an enemy, and they are, why would you let them build one single component of a weapon system. These international corporations will be the end of America yet. The same thing goes for computerization. What will happen if an enemy can control the computer systems that coordinate our weapons systems. Push execute and the war is over.
Very interesting conversation regarding the connection between China and the Vatican:
?POPE, IMPEACHMENT, LEO ZAGAMI – ALEX JONES INFOWARS
— https://youtu.be/kF62ULMNCyk
plenty of money on the table
Get yourself situated starting now.
Civil War – check
Dictatorial Rule – check
Outsourcing of Defense – almost there.
Ostentatious Pomp at the top – check
How about:
Military Overreach
Corruption
Social Breakdown
Financial Decline and Collapse
The intro with Nixon and ‘peace with honor’ describes Trumps futzing around well. In this case though there is no peace and certainly no honor. It is another celebration of ignorance. In his usual way.
Ronald Reagan said it best:
“My fellow Americans, I’m pleased to tell you today that I’ve signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.”
Ronald Reagan,Saturday,August 11,1984
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OFj8e_8WgyE
How about the lack of war with Mexico and the Southern caravans? That’s right, the military and the government can’t cohere to defend the national border, but they can present a united, deadly force around the rest of the world.
An illegal steps across the border and we have to take him in. House him. Feed him. Process him. Deport him. Maybe again and again.
This “Democracy” and the Constitution will be the death of us. A pact of surrender and suicide. If not the wall, troops and machine guns on the border. Give ’em a choice, plomo o plomo!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/border-patrol-reaction-caravan-immigrants-132454085.html
You are so right. I wish that all the east coasters could come and visit the border. I try to envision what the end product of the open border model of the Liberals will look like. I think that California and its ruined economy and diseased homelessness is a good start.
better link: https://liesrecords.bandcamp.com/track/plomo-o-plomo
Finally. The biggest news in the world, at least to me presently, is the Central Americans marching to the U.S. border. Situations in the ME in general and Syria in particular are serious, but an invasion is about to happen here in a matter of days. If our government allows them in it will be 5000 next week, 10,000 the week after and on and on. What will it take for America to wake up. No time for the wall so it has to be troops to implement border control, or a militia.
Update on a saying, what do you think?
Those who can, do.
Those who can’t, teach.
Those who can’t teach, administrate.
Those who can’t administrate, turn into TV pundits.
In memory of Easter:
How can it be that an American company, Apple, can remember to mark on the calendar Cinco de Mayo (May 5), Mexico’s commemoration of a Mexican army victory of the French in the Battle of Puebla in 1862, but not Easter?
Hanukkah on December 13, but not Easter?
Kwanzaa on December 26, but not Easter?
Groundhog Day on February 2, but not Easter?
St. Patrick’s Day on March 17, but not Easter?
Earth Day on April 22, but not Easter?
First Day of Ramadan Muslim holiday on May 15, but not Easter?
Eid al-Fitr marking the end of Ramadan on June 15-17, but not Easter?
Eid al-Adha, the Muslim Sacrifice Feast, on August 20, but not Easter?
Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year, on September 10, but not Easter?
Yom Kippur, Jewish holiday on September 19, but not Easter?
Ashura, Muslim holiday, on September 20, but not Easter?
Diwali, the Hindu Festival of Lights, on November 7, but not Easter?
This is how our culture is stolen and our memories are dimmed. In my day the spring holiday was known as Easter Holiday. Today it is known as Spring Break, a time for drunken and sexually promiscuous bacchanal on Florida’s beaches.
(from Paul Craig Roberts blog “How Our Country Was Stolen” dated April 1.)
The Vibrant Enrichers (aka H-1B holders) at Apple and other tech giants want us to celebrate Bunny Day but forget about Easter. Bunny rabbit is ancient symbol of fertility but not for Euro-heritage people? The Vibrant Enrichers now control the culture and White people are too absorbed by gender confusion to care anymore.
Yep, got a “Happy Bunny Day” card yesterday and what a warm-fuzzy feeling followed. Just joking.
Look at it this way: living in a decadent society is a whole lot more fun
than in the dour times of obedience to duty, fiscal prudence and steadfast incremental progress. — more fun all the way until shortly before the end.
As regards Spring break: better they despoil the unremarkable beaches of Florida rather than the exquisite springs and rivers of that
beautiful state.
“The Vibrant Enrichers (aka H-1B holders) at Apple and other tech giants want us to celebrate Bunny Day but forget about Easter. ”
You poor thing.
Not sure if you’re including the evil Google in your ‘other tech giants’, but my Google calendar’s showing Good Friday, Easter, Sunday and Easter Monday.
So who were the ‘other tech giants’?
I got a fancy Easter card from my little grandson. He made it at school – a regular Council-run (municipal) school. A school with Muslim children in it. And it said ‘Happy Easter’ on it. I expect the Muslim children made one too, it being Easter an’ all and people here being less weirdly hostile than over your way.
And you could have bought Easter cards anywhere in this land where I’m told (specifically by your good, honest self, if memory serves) that 2.4 million Muslims – some of them not even practising – have imposed sharia law on the other 62.5 million non-Muslims. Just google ‘Easter cards UK’ and there they all – a Kornukopia of Kitsch.
Crosses, bunnies, flowers, the lot. These sharia guys just aren’t taking their job seriously enough, are they?
I wouldn’t worry too much about the bunnies on your card, though, Tate. They do seem to have a connection to Christian festivities. From Wiki:
“The Easter Bunny (also called the Easter Rabbit or Easter Hare) is a folkloric figure and symbol of Easter, depicted as a rabbit bringing Easter eggs. Originating among German Lutherans, the “Easter Hare” originally played the role of a judge, evaluating whether children were good or disobedient in behavior at the start of the season of Eastertide.”
“In legend, the creature carries colored eggs in his basket, candy, and sometimes also toys to the homes of children, and as such shows similarities to Santa Claus or the Christkind, as they both bring gifts to children on the night before their respective holidays.”
So, Lutherans are at the bottom of it. Are they OK or not OK? It’s sometimes difficult to figure out what’s acceptable in the land of constantly outraged religiosity.
In the meantime I’m still enjoying brh’s description of the mad mullah at Piccadilly Circus and the Englishmen with briefcases and *the look of fear in their faces that you cannot see*.
I love that. I guess brh does Remote Viewing as well. In a weird way, though, because he thought their heads were ‘up their asses’.
TMI 🙂
*Easter Sunday*
Alba,
You say that “you expect the Muslim children made one [Easter card] too.” But why would they? They don’t celebrate Easter. That would be weird. If the Muslim grandparents got an ‘Easter card’ from their grandchildren attending your grandson’s school the way you did, what do you think would be their reaction? Not pretty, I can assure you, probably scratch their eyes out. But it’s unlikely that they got an Easter card as their known sensitivity will have exempted their grandkids from the exercise altogether. But you wouldn’t know that unless you checked into it. I urge you to check this out and see for yourself if they were required to make an Easter card. I’m confident you’ll discover otherwise.
The sharia of course is not official. You’re trying to make it sound like I believe that it has official status in the U.K. but I never said any such thing. It only has unofficial recognition in a few urban places at present, where there is a Muslim majority population. But it will spread, make no mistake, as the kebabis are outbreeding you five-to-one. And in the meantime, if they have to make a few meaningless concessions like Easter cards, then they don’t mind doing that as part of the Taqiya stratagem.
I’m not surprised that the Lutherans are behind the bunny tradition as they are the closest to papistry that exists in Protestantism. Although I do admire the Missouri Synod (the ‘mean’ Lutherans, lol.) They don’t allow women clergy. They don’t allow non-members to take communion. They don’t believe in all of that Scofield bible dispensationalist theology. Very sound, imo.
The Western Church allows the name, even though based on a Slavic God I believe. The Orthodox do not, using the word “Pascha” instead. Likewise, we incorporate Germanic Paganism, thus the Christmas Tree. Further, we appropriated the Solstice and the worship of the Sun/Son along with the Orthodox and most modern churches. Such things are hugely significant in the Northern Psyche in a Jungian sense.
Factually, Christ was probably born in the early Spring.
“Factually, Christ was probably born in the early Spring.”
*Factually* you need to be a bit more sceptical about who Yeshua was. If you’d been born somewhere else you might not believe in him at all, Janos. These things are mostly determined by geographical accident.
“I’m not surprised that the Lutherans are behind the bunny tradition as they are the closest to papistry that exists in Protestantism.”
That’s funny. You clearly aren’t aware of the High Anglican tradition with its bells and smells.
‘Papistry’s an interesting word, though – I didn’t realise you had such hostility towards the Catholic church yet you admire those that (you think) are similar in doctrine. Now that really is weird. But you’d already lost me with the connection between bunnies and ‘papistry’.
And most other Lutherans don’t appear to have a problem with women pastors, or even bishops, so at least they appear to have some sense.
“You say that “you expect the Muslim children made one [Easter card] too.” But why would they? They don’t celebrate Easter. That would be weird.”
Why would it be weird? Because there are Muslim children in the school, the whole class learns about Eid at the appropriate time. Ignorance isn’t generally helpful to anything and everywhere isn’t as confrontational as where you live, Tate. You don’t seem to get out much.
” If the Muslim grandparents got an ‘Easter card’ from their grandchildren attending your grandson’s school the way you did, what do you think would be their reaction? Not pretty, I can assure you, probably scratch their eyes out.”
That so beyond idiotic I’m amazed you’re not embarrassed. Do you actually hear yourself? I went to my grandson’s Christmas carol concert. The Muslim children in the class were singing ‘Away in a Manger’ up on the stage along with their classmates and their parents and/or grandparents were in the audience along with me, listening to them. I imagine they could have withdrawn their children for reasons of conscience if they’d wanted to, but they clearly didn’t. You are simply clueless.
My daughter (the mother of my grandson) works in a nursery (kindergarden) so I do have a bit more inside information than you do on these matters, thankfully.
I’m not surprised there’s so much visceral animosity in your country, Tate, if you’re anything to go by.
I had to look up ‘Scofield dispensationalism’, but gave up pretty quickly. The more you delve into the minutiae of any religious doctrine, the barmier it gets.
It’s here. It has finally happened. We all knew it was coming, and now all we can do is shake our heads at the undeniable reality:
2018 is the year all of Western society spaced on Easter.
Oh my goodness. How do you forget a thing like that? Honestly! It beggars the imagination. The White House Easter Egg roll? Neglected! Millions of chocolate bunnies manufactured, packaged, shipped and sold at groceries, convenience stores, drug stores and bodegas across the lands? Overlooked! All that bright food colouring and those little wire hoops, for all those children to dip their boiled eggs in? We just totally forgot. And why?
All because Apple didn’t mark Easter in its Calendar app, supposedly. After a software update, apparently. Which has now been corrected, so it seems. After another software update went out, I guess.
So.
Anyone got anything important to talk about?
Why? The same reason that the High Priests posted a guard at Christ’s tomb – and then bribed the Roman soldiers to say they were asleep when He emerged.
#MeToo takes down another politician, this time Rep. Elizabeth Esty, a Connecticut Democrat. Sexual harassment in the workplace will not be tolerated. Syriasly.
Janet, I have a picture of myself as my avatar so that the people that I interact with here can see the asshole that is talking to them as I actually appear. Perhaps you would do the same thing because every time I read one of you posts I get a mental image of Joanne Chesimard and I am sure that this is probably unfair. Or not, but I would love to know for sure.
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists/joanne-deborah-chesimard
“What will crash the economy ” –John AZ
What will crash the economy is Trump going on a jihad against an American company which employs American citizens. Very unbecoming behavior for a President which damages the office of the Presidency.
The Dow dropped more than 450 points in direct response to Trump’s decision to start a trade war with China and his jihad against Amazon.
Amazon, founded by the son of a Cuban immigrant, employs 566,000 gringos. Immigrants, or their sons, like Steve Jobs, create jobs for native-born citizens.
Oh, by the way, that number does not include the 87,000 employees from Whole Foods, the grocery giant that Amazon acquired last month.
This is an enigma. Amazon is becoming what Walmart was twenty years ago, a great destroyer of Main Street. Small business is being destroyed by a giant by economies of scale. In TLE, JHK talks about the damage done by too big to fail corporations to the entropy of a society. This is a business example of the takeover of the economy by the elite and increasing the income inequality which is really destroying the economy. As I said before, Trump is like Roosevelt in 1906, when he saw the robber barons controlling the economy. His reaction was to bust up the corporations into smaller pieces to create competition. I will not be surprised if Trump tries the same.
By the way, have you seen a picture of an Amazon distribution center with all the Robots, not a human in sight. Anyone who thinks that human beings count would not be pleased with that picture.
Yeah, but you know, Assad is KILLING HIS OWN PEOPLE!!!
Hmmm. And the Syrian Rebels are killing whom??? THEIR OWN PEOPLE, TOO!
DUH! It’s a frigging Civil War!
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
“And now, of course, Vietnam is a tourism hot-spot.”
I just returned from a wonderful holiday on the beach in “NAM”. The seafood was great.
The Vietnam Cong now serve Pho Bo “beep” noodles and Vietnamese iced coffees “wit conden mwilk” to tourists from China and Russia. Go Figure….
LBJ: “If the godless, Communist yellow hoard sweeps over Vietnam, 50 years from now, the Viet Cong will be serving “Beep Noodles” to Communist Chinese and Russian tourists on the beach. We will pay any price, make any sacrifice to stop this from happening!”
Vietnam, a one-party Communist state, has one of south-east Asia’s fastest-growing economies and has set its sights on becoming a developed nation by 2020. It became a unified country once more in 1975 when the armed forces of the Communist north seized the south.
Sort of beats the narrative of “capitalism is ALWAYS better system than communism”.
I wonder why?
Because the main part of the Asian communistic systems use capitalism to get things done.
You do not make much sense with that statement.
For example, Russia is mostly a Liberal Capitalism plus State-owned large monopolies such as Gazprom, Rosneft, Rosatom and Rostech (military hardware).
Actually, now so much State-owned as State-controlled, meaning that the State owns a controlling portfolio of the shares.
Surprisingly, State-controlled monopolies are more efficient than the purely private companies, especially in the Military-Industrial complex.
If we take dollar for dollar at the official exchange rate, United States beats Russia 10 to 1 in terms of military spending, but in terms of production of military units – planes, missiles, tanks – Russia beats the United States.
How do you explain that?
Kameraden Finc,
How do you explain that? Begin with a qualitative analysis….
Anybody care guessing what would have happened to NAM if Yankees won the war?
It would probably be in the exact same place as it is.
By the way, in a modern “communist” state where does the capital go ? In our situation, it goes to the stock market for corporations and owners pockets for private companies. Corporations exist in China as do stock markets. Both capitalistic as can be. So maybe the only difference is that an autocratic group runs what the corporations produce, wait a minute, our government creates a lot of the demand for our corporations in an autocratic fashion. So our governments must be the difference? China is ruled by a legislature that is controlled by a for life leader and his bureaucracy. Here we can vote for a leader every four years and replace the legislature every two years. Except we don’t. And the presidential elections are fixed. Hmmm! Sounds like the only difference is we are a different color skin and our eyelids are different.
Hell, that gives us plenty of reason to hate each other. Just like in this country.
I think the whole division into “capitalist” or “communist” system is purely artificial.
It is true that in terms of consumer good production the USSR was far behind the US, but that was only thanks to Khrushchev and his anti-Stalin counter-revolution, which destroyed the Stalin system of small and medium private businesses mostly involved in consumer goods production and called “Arteli”.
So, under Khrushchev every dry-cleaner, every hair-cutter, every cafe-owner had to become a government employee, which, of course was totally inefficient and ridiculous.
I still remember the time when Soviet grocery stores were full of everything – in early 60s.
Khrushchev destroyed all that in just a couple of years with his anti-Stalin economic reforms.
Fin, I will finally agree with you on something.
Wait for it…
Wait…
Now
I believe that Democracy is incompatible with the form of Capitalism prevalent in the good ol’ USA.
If the “Yanks” had won, Vietnam would be a militarized, divided country.
Trump is interested in raising oil prices.
Trump is primarily interested in the growth of Dow Jones during the re-industrialization of America, and low oil prices pull the market down.
If we throw away Flying Monkeys Media, the American and Russian National interests mostly coincide at this particular point of history, as they were from President Washington all the way to President Roosevelt – almost 170 years.
Only President Truman started a nuclear blackmail of Russia in 1945, which for some reason was christened Cold War.
Ladies and germs;
Well, the BBC site this PM relates that the murder rate in London is overtaking the murder rate of New York City…there is an old description of the English as being a nation of cut-throats and Pirates…I am beginning to fear for, and pity the poor immigrant….
And…the link;
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43610936
I prefer to think of the English as Yeomen – like the Yeomen of Locksley/
Robin Hood in Ivanhoe by Sir Walter Scott, ready to follow Richard, the Lionheart to storm the castle of Sir Brian de Bois-Guilbert – the satanic leader of the Knights Templar.
I think Alex Jones.
From the article: “Croydon Central MP Sarah Jones, who chairs the all-party parliamentary group on knife crime, told the BBC’s Today programme that London could learn from New York in how to reduce violent crime. … ‘New York has been able to bring down serious violence through a public health approach,’ she said.”
And New York state has more changes in mind. Over the weekend, the governor’s office released the following:
Governor Cuomo Announces Passage of Legislation to Remove Guns from Domestic Abusers
https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-announces-passage-legislation-remove-guns-domestic-abusers
– Ensures Domestic Abusers are Prohibited from Possessing Both Handguns and Long Guns
– Prohibits Anyone with an Outstanding Warrant for a Felony or other Serious Offense from Receiving or Renewing a Firearm Licence
– Strengthens New York’s Nation-Leading Gun Laws
– Part of Governor Cuomo’s 2018 Women’s Agenda
Who could argue with an approach that targets people who have already demonstrated their penchant for violence, and that so obviously gets results? Who indeed.
Ensures Domestic Abusers are Prohibited from Possessing Both Handguns and Long Guns
Elrond,
Ever have a fight with your “partner”? A simple call from a vindictive “Significant Other” after a heated verbal argument would disenfranchise you forever…you assume that the ordinance will be enforced even-handedly. Just one of a thousand cuts….
Do you favour the death penalty, elysianfield Sure, I could be wrong, but I’m going to put my money on Yes, you do. If I’m wrong, just say so.
So I hear you arguing that prohibiting violent felons from having guns is wrong or bad, because sometimes innocent people are subject to false or vindictive accusations. If that argument is valid against gun prohibition, is it also valid against the death penalty? At least the domestic abuser is still alive if and when his innocence is actually proved.
Elrond,
Yes, I support the death penalty.
Our system was at one time based on the premise that 100 guilty should go free rather than one innocent man impugned.
Felons in this country are already banned from gun ownership…convicted felons are easy to identify with a simple computer check…never felt the issue in contention, nor argued otherwise.
Regarding domestic abuse….most always at a misdemeanor level, or not even chargeable in some cases where the woman or man is gaming the system…this is your garden-variety mission creep…consider “verbal” domestic abuse….
You’re deliberately confusing two issues, elysianfield.
The choice isn’t between 100 guilty men going free or one innocent man being impugned. It’s between one innocent man being wrongly killed or 100 guilty men going to jail.
That’s why we don’t have it in my country. The public had had enough of it by the time Timothy Evans was hanged in 1950 for murdering his wife and infant daughter, who were actually killed by the serial killer, John Christie, a tenant in the same house who was discovered to have killed 6 other women there and confessed to the murder of Evans’ wife and baby.
The fact was also considered that juries were more likely not to convict, when there was any doubt at all, if the death penalty existed than if it didn’t.
Trump called for the death penalty for the Central Park Five,
later found to be innocent of the crime.
Quoting former Chief of Police Leroy Logan: “I cannot understand how things have gotten out of hand,”
“We have seen the virus of violence spreading. It is endemic in so many different parts of societies.
“It can only be dealt with in a holistic manner, because it is so holistic in its impact.
“Police can’t just arrest or stop and search their way out of this problem; it has to be done in partnership with the communities.”
Leroy Logan’s profile page: the Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/profile/leroy-logan
Gosh what a powerful intellect, to come up with such original gems!!!
” London is overtaking the murder rate of New York City”
Doing what I can. Did I mention that I have been working on World Peace? Got people in place, funding, government approval, offices in Europe and India for pilots.
I’ll keep yo’all informed.
d,
You must be a saint….
Watch out ef, World Peace will only be achieved once all of it’s inhabitants are dead. I think he may be working for the other side….
sorry to hear that you feel that way
is there anything that can help you?
Sláinte mhaith!
Always trying to help,
dannyboy
Anal nathrak, uthvas bethud, do che ol di enve.
Gaelic The Charm of Making
Sláinte!
They’ll be starving in Egypt pretty soon, too, if they aren’t already.
What’s the population Egypt, 90-100 million?
I think in the next decade there will be a mass of humanity on the move from Africa and the ME into the land of milk and honey (aka known as Europe) that will make the Hun and Visigoth invason of Roman Italy in the 5th century look like a church picnic.
Europe, the welcome mat best be out if you know what’s good for ya! I hope you’re ready.
brh
Bridgeport, Connecticut, has a school that is 92% non-White?
I thought that Connecticut was only about pretending that “diversity is our strength”, not actually making an area a shithole. But, apparently
“In Bridgeport, 39% of the population over 15 years of age are married, 53% speak English and 33% speak Spanish. 46% of Bridgeport residents were born in Connecticut, 18% were born out of state, 8% were born outside of the United States and 29% were foreign born.”
In addition, the population is 35.5% negro. This compares with the State percentage of 10%, with 13% Hispanic..
Malth, funny you mention Bridgeport, CT.
There is news from Bridgeport just today.
At the local HS, a guidance counselor, a black guy, was arrested for announcing to his students that he is waiting for the word from ‘the Panthers’, to start killing white people. Then he brandished a knife he kept in his desk drawer. Needles to say he was arrested for threatening and brandishin a weapon.
The news said in the past he was reprimanded for stomping on the American flag in the classroom, also for threatening to kill the principal and asst. principal at his school.
Bridgeport was once an industrial powerhouse, home to UMC, which manufactured almost all small arms ammo in WW1 and WW2, also a producer of heavy equipment like the famous ‘Bridgeport’ milling machine.
Now it is a 3rd world welfare colony.
The transformation didn’t take long, about 20 years 1955-1975. It was permanent, there’s no going back.
brh
Nothing like a Bridgeport, they are the best!
Dog,
They are a fine machine, good for prototyping, but not much good for production…too light.
you should write a book–go thru yr many comments here [for how many years] and turn it into a blog or book.
And for Gods sake isn’t about time EU commissars in Brussels get busy converting the thousands Catholic and Lutheran churches into mosques so as to make the tens of milllions of honored ‘guests’ feel welcome upon arrival. I believe its called the Swedish Plan.
Europeans aren’t using them anyway.”
brh
I really wanna say, so fuck em! They are being punished for old Judas sin – the betrayal of Christ.
The Eastern European countries may be saved by Russia and turned into a buffer zone against the hordes of hungry Western Barbarians wanting to overrun the Third Rome.
“LBJ: “If the godless, Communist yellow hoard sweeps over Vietnam, 50 years from now, the Viet Cong will be serving “Beep Noodles” to Communist Chinese and Russian tourists on the beach.” –Pucker
Wasn’t there something about playing dominoes, too? Or dominoes falling or something like that?
Ole LBJ and his band of the Best and Brightest, namely, Robert McNamara, McGeorge Bundy, et al, were so very, very wrong. Instead, Vietnam became safe for the manufacture of $120/pair Nikes and an exotic destination for Selfie-mugging American Millenial turistas. A lot of brave Americans died or were maimed to make this all possible.
dannyboy: Real (not Fake) New York rumors:
The moneyline favors the roundup and arrest of The Donald, Jared et al in one sweep. Date is favored for Mueller calling in Prosecutors and FBI to sweep on the last day his “witnesses” have sung.
I am familiar with the gossip at Trinity Church. My boss, Thomas Renyi, Chair Bank of New York major contributor.
finca: this time it is not about money
DannyBoy, has your boss, respectable Thomas Renyi, finally pull through a license to open a branch of Bank of New York in Other and Better World?
I didn’t think so!
“a license to open a branch of Bank of New York in Other and Better World” – Finc
in the afterworld?
are you saying Heaven? I didn’t even know if you are a believer.
that Refugee Caravan marching up thru Mexico from central America, headed for the US border and led by US immigration lawyers, what a provocation! You can bet your ass the Big Networks will be on site giving sympathetic coverage. (speaking of the networks, reporting Winnie Mandelas death today they made her sound like Mother Teresa, no mention of the necklace parties) the mob headed north resembles a herd in ‘The Walking Dead’. Think there’s any chance of diverting these future DACA members to the California section of border? Let them cross there, truck ’em up to the Sanctuary City of San Francisco? Plunk ’em down in the tubercular and Hepititis soaked streets with thousands of other illegals in this welcoming leftist utopia, an earthly paradise.
brh
brh, Trump announced the fake news “caravan” on April 1. You have been conned once again by Trump. April Fools!
BRH,
Funny comment by Chris Rock from one of his stand-up routines;
Nelson Mandela, shortly after being released from 27 years of prison, was divorcing Winnie. Twenty seven years of prison…beaten every day, and he survived with elan…but several months with that bitch Winnie and he said…”I can’t stand this!” (paraphrased)
In other news, vis-a-vis California, Trump is suing the State of California for selling federal land. Everything else being equal, there’s then a 50-50 chance the US will win the lawsuit. What I find interesting is that then there’s a good chance California wouldn’t comply. What then? Trump would have to send in the troops to confront the California state government. Either that, or get off the pot.
Either way, the Feds would lose. An invasion by US troops would begin the disintegration of America. Doing nothing would show how weak the Feds are and encourage defiance by other states. Then America as we know it, disintegrates.
It will be interesting to follow this story and see how it all shakes out.
Who are they selling the land to?
The article I read didn’t say.
The last time this happened Ft. Sumter fell to South Carolina. Lincoln is still revered for having the guts to stand up for the Federal government. Someone needs to cut off Moonbeam’s nose to stop him from thumbing it at Washington. Ever notice that the biggest mouths representing the Left in the Deep State are all from California. If the people of California could get their act together and stop the illegals from voting, a lot of USA problems would subside.
Trump can only send a state’s National Guard forces anywhere if the governor of that state agrees.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/04/us/politics/trump-governors-national-guard-border-mexico.html
Bill,
Failure to comply would result in a warrant from the Bench…an arrest warrant directed at the party(s) guilty of the omission. There would be no troops involved, rather a few FBI or US Marshalls serving the warrant and frog-marching those served to waiting vehicles. There would be no drama…no elected official has authority to demand the police or National Guard to conduct any activity other than required/allowed by California law…they have no line authority.
“We live in a world where there is more and more information and less and less meaning.”
“…Disneyland is presented as imaginary in order to make us believe the rest is real, whereas, all of Los Angeles and the America that surrounds it are no longer real…”
Jean Baudrillard, Simulacra and Simulation
Narrative, official or otherwise, has superseded and replaced truth. The truth is no longer valued, sought or protected. We believe something is true if we see and hear it on TV, which could be Fox News for some or MSNBC for others. Try to think for yourself and question this realty, if you dare, but best to remain silent, for fear of being branded a “conspiracy theorist” or a heretic.
Not showing courage to stick up for your faith allows the other side to intimidate itself into control.
JohnAZ
I agree! I was being facetious about remaining silent!
BP
Agree
It’s Janos Skorenzy’s modus operandi.
Trump plays on the emotions of fear / anger / hatred / paranoia … his latest lie being that caravans of people are coming through Mexico to cross the U.S. border.
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2018/apr/02/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-caravans-people-coming-through-m/
Well, the current estimate of the Buzzfeed embedded reporters is up to 1700 and growing. This is an obvious attempt to push the Trump conservative buttons. They are reportedly 1/4 the way up Mexico. Nafta hangs in the balance and I expect the Border patrol is trying to figure out where to try to block the ingress. I smell a real border clash developing. If Trump allows these folks to come into the US without challenge, all his efforts for a controlled border will go up in smoke. The idea that the USA controls its own destiny will also go up in smoke. The Left will win its battle to destroy the Constitution. Yes, I think that this incursion will not occur without a fight.
John,
One riot…one Texas Ranger….
A few good men, a few hundred arrests (All enablers arrested for Conspiracy to violate)…and RICO the bunch.
The arrests should be made with…enthusiasm.
WTH is population overshoot?
Was there a projected number?
A planned parenthood?
Nah
Just breeding
Ceaselessly
And Sally Struthers cajoling people in places
With balanced populations
To tilt the scales
Artificial support
Anti-nature
Nature always f*****g wins
Always
I Syriasly can’t imagine the Manhattan brat being a Russian Operative.
Helping Russia in Syria by his tacit support of Turkey’s murderous incursion deep into Kurdish homelands has nothing to do with fake news. It would very irresponsible to say that Trump is doing Putin’s bidding.
So I will only do it once.
The problem is that Trump is a well educated man and knows a lot more about History than you do.
Trump’s education has been directed at getting things done. The Deep State politicos education has been directed at how to do nothing and get away with it i.e. Get reelected. Until 2016, I would blame the US electorate for the lousy choices they have made for thirty years. The voters have spoken, the Deep States response has been to resist, now it is the job of the voters in 2018 to put another nail in the coffin of the Deep State. If they vote in favor of the Deep State, TLE will accelerate.
Yes. I guess that punching your military academy teacher and buying your way into college is “well educated” in Russia.
My my, those surveillance reports have everything in them. Even a description of my history knowledge.
“I Syriasly can’t imagine the Manhattan brat…”
Don’t.
He is a Queens punk (and I mean “punk” in the bad way, not the good way spelled “Punk”)
Yet he crossed the river (like Washington crossing the Delaware) and conquered the Island, and along with Rudi, saving it from neglect and criminality.
Hey Janos,
He conquered what island, Puerto Rico?
He’s just a bum here. (and since you love Yiddish slang…
a putz!
Every other species grows in population during environmentally good times and dies en masse in bad times. Man’s mental abilities has enabled us to blunt the effects of the bad times, but that works only to a point. Humankind is about to take it up the a– as the Earth is trying to undo the climate effects of astronomical change added onto human combustion effects. As is often stated, the only constant in nature is change. Our population is getting to the point that the world just cannot handle any more of us, and the result will be depopulation.
The line for euthanasia starts on the Left.
Rather conveniently, nature will pit man vs. man.
Either way the planet wins with less people. Earth will shrug off human made fever of devastation and the human virus.
Syriasly Trump is not doing Putin’s bidding, other forces are at work.
There is an Island in the pacific the plastic garbage vortex touches. Over the years I have seen reports and even a few photos of garbage self selecting on the beach of this small sandy island. Seven tennis shoes all for the left foot of little girls, identical shoes all pink. They wash up within 10 feet of each other. In another place there is a jumble of empty Bick lighters.
It only looks like Trump is colluding with Russia. A similar phenomena is at work. Somehow human interaction is selecting like ocean waves and currents. Consider:
monochrome photographs of the nightlife of Gazi – an impoverished, crime-ridden suburb to the north of Istanbul – are not for the fainthearted. Erdo?an captured the viciousness of illegal dog fights, the hedonism of underground sex parties, and the chaotic violence of armed street protests full of young men with masks and guns……..
Erdo?an quickly sensed a larger reason behind Gazi’s turmoil: a feeling that the Turkish government was attempting to “wipe out” its Kurdish population. That sense of threat drove people to act in the way they did. “The drug trafficking, the prostitution, the dog fights and the protests – at first glance, these activities seemed different, but they all had the same roots, the same motive. Turkey has given certain ideologies a platform – and anyone with opposing thoughts is vilified. They have been pushed into the night. That’s what I photograph.”
The depravity of the actions of the government of Turkey is causing people in Turkey to be disturbed and they are doing strange things. This caused Ça?da? Erdo?an to make a record of the filth under the lid of Turkey’s skull.
Dog fights and sex parties: the man who photographs Istanbul after dark
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/apr/03/cagdas-erdogan-photographer-turkey-paris-circulations-control
Turkey and America are washing up on the same beach.
But what does Ça?da? know? He’s a Kurd.
Moscow Rumors
You will be laughing your ass off, but I was told that Russian Prime Minister Medvedev was fast asleep during the Putin’s speech to the Federal Assembly, but as soon as Putin spoke of new weapons systems he woke up and it was clearly visible that he too was hearing about them for the first time.
And they also told me that Rogozin, Deputy Prime Minister of Russia in charge of Defense industry, had also clearly heard about new weapons systems for the first time.
I was very surprised at that, but Russian TV showed how he listened, with his mouth opened.
Speaks volumes of what secret systems were declassified, as well as Putin’s supposed personal fortune.
Medvedev sleeps with Valentina Matviyenko, Chairwoman of the Federation Council:
https://i.mycdn.me/image?id=849489956381&t=0&plc=WEB&tkn=*QkAu6RARhhBvW98YT4ucInmmtGA
US “policy” in Syria in one word: Partition.
In this regard, the [slightly] controlled chaos in Iraq is considered a “success”. It’s much easier and far less expensive to make deals with a population’s leaders who are in politically fragile and internecine straits.
Two business “benefits”: Pipelines and weapons. Lots of infrastructure building opportunities… and by extension, lots of opportunities to blow shit up again.
Turkey and the Kurds: There are about 18 million Kurds in eastern Turkey proper; the largest portion. About 2 million in Syria; the smallest portion. It’s my belief that the genocide of Kurds (by the Turks) within Syria is the easiest “object lesson” to “behave” that His Most Exalted Pasha, Erdogan, could possibly get away with. (According to His Most- blah,blah- they’re all terrorists, so that makes it okay with painted-in-a-corner NATO and the US State Dept to exterminate them. Better to tacitly condone murder than admit to a Big Lie-based, two-faced policy, eh?)
JHK sez:
“And so just the other day, the latest POTUS declared (in his usual way) that “we’ll be coming out of Syria, like, very soon. Let the other people take care of it now.” The utterance sent the neocon partisans in government into a paroxysm. Cries of “Say What?” echoed up and down the Great Mall. Which “other people” was Mr. Trump referring to? The United Auto Workers? Gandalf the Grey? The cast of Glee?”
I was rooting for the United Auto Workers myself, buuuuuut….
Les Français, peut-être ? That could get interesting (as they say). Here ya be:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-02/france-risks-war-fellow-nato-member-turkey-effort-prop-syrian-rebels
Oh, right, c’mon!
The entire Syria is a no-fly zone for the NATO. Hillary wanted it, she’s got it – enforced by Russian S-400s.
Without the air support what exactly they gonna be able to do? Shit their heavy-duty combat diapers?
That Zero Hedge article is full of disclaimers
…………………According to Reuters, France is looking to…………………….
If it is France there will be protest. Pixels are needed here!
The deep state could be pushing this angle. Not to worry, move along, nothing to see. That kind of thing. Look at the other ring of the circus now. Nets up, no acrobats are going to be hurt.
The Syrian Vector is being changed. Americans are getting prepared for Trump’s meeting with Putin
It is not the first time I have noted that Ian Bremmer, president and founder of the authoritative American think-tank Eurasia Group, stands for the pacification of relations with Russia. Just recently he occupied obviously anti-Trump (and anti-Putin) position. Here is his recent comment, this time to the words of Senator Russophobe Lindsay Graham:
This is an objectively ludicrous statement. Also shows Graham as seriously out of touch with US voters.
https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/980769011058331648
And here’s interesting article on Fox:
Yes, Russia is a threat — but America needs to play a shrewder game. Here’s what that means
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/04/02/yes-russia-is-threat-but-america-needs-to-play-shrewder-game-heres-what-that-means.html
Peter Zeihan is like the Bizarro James Howard Kunstler; the exact opposite on almost every single important issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIdUSqsz0Io
Those two on stage would be one of my great fantasy debates.
Any predictions?
I watched it. Good stuff. George Friedman at Stratfor said a lot of the same things re the U.S. deep bench from a geostrategic perspective. (before Stratfor got busted, lol)
Thwack,
I predict you should get new fantasies….
I predict you will continue to ride my cock since you lack one of your own.
Thwack,
Great fantasy…got any you could tell your co-workers?
When/If the American people realize that their government is their worst enemy and is probably 90% responsible for our societal problems and ills they may have a chance of saving their country.
Abrahamic religions then centralized government in that order
Regrettably, capitalism demands ever more consumers, and Europe with it’s maintenance/population replacement rate will not suffice. Conveniently, consumers made a mass exodus from Syria to Europe. In short time they will abandon attacks, rapes, and dogma and acclimate to frivolous consumption and competitive goods acquisition like the good little bougies they are. Viva capitalismo!
Apparently, you have not read the “Trust D.E.” – a 1923 Novel by Soviet Jewish writer Ilya Ehrenburg.
In Trust, D.E., American millionaires finance a plan to destroy Europe with viruses and poison gas and replace a native population with Africans.
The whole point in replacing the fat faggoty Europeans with Africans is to reduce consumption.
The dog finds it greatly exciting to chase a car, and I would guess from the demeanor of Governor Brown and the people around him that they enjoy doing the same.
But the smarty-pants running California may end up like the pooch that caught the car. And what of the unfortunate Fido that miscalculates and ends up under-wheel?
Brown and company act like they’re aggrieved on behalf of foreigners expecting an open American border. Of course Brown and company could give a shit, it’s all play-acting and all about political calculation and about how it advances the cause of their oligarch paymasters.
But the car they’re chasing is the American nation-state. Even in a condition of rust and decline it’s still an awfully big vehicle. And they question its legitimacy and they denigrate the interests of hundreds of millions of American citizens in maintaining its running order. As no less a luminary than Bernie said, there’s no USA without borders and open borders are the agenda of the Koch Brothers.
The bone-headedness is vast. What of an overpopulated, desiccating California that finds itself with de-facto independence in an unravelling United States, besieged with campesinos from failed narco-states to the south?
What would be the life-expectancy of a California elite whose authority extends only a few city blocks from the state capitol? How long could the perfumed, surgically enhanced people of Beverly Hills maintain their societal perch? How long before they get a challenge from the very folk they regard as their inferiors, those undereducated, undernourished people from the south? The big questions: Why should Beverly Hills get so much? Why should everyone else get so little?
The elite think they’re invulnerable. They can’t imagine otherwise. I say they aren’t. I think they’re orders of magnitude over-confident. It takes a critical mass of impoverished people who lost hope and have nothing to lose to overturn the existing order. And I think that with every day that passes that critical mass approaches.
What Kunstler sez about the Middle East, that the travails are more related to the price of bread and its availability than to politics, has wide application on this side of the pond.
The dog finds it greatly exciting to chase a car, and I would guess from the demeanor of Governor Brown and the people around him that they enjoy doing the same.
But the smarty-pants running California may end up like the pooch that caught the car. And what of the unfortunate Fido that miscalculates and ends up under-wheel?
Like Tony Soprano did at the end? But the dog is not a member, the dog is just a dog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnT7nYbCSvM
Fade to black or members only?
The Lord God gave the Germans three qualities – intelligence, decency and National Socialism, but no one has more than two merits.
If a German is intelligent and a National Socialist, then he is not decent, but if he is intelligent and decent, then he is not a National Socialist.
Ilya Ehrenburg, Trust D.E.
Germans certainly do have three somewhat excellent qualities,
1) Yes, they tend to be quite intelligent, keeping in mind that even intelligent people can do some not very intelligent things.
2) They also tend to be not only hard working , but we actually even enjoy working and enjoy looking at the things that we made and accomplished afterward. My father taught me that once you learn to enjoy what you work at, you never “work” another day in your life.
3) They are very loyal to those that do well by them. This is what led them to be manipulated by employers like the Krupps who not only worked them hard their entire lives, but took care of them with company housing, education and personal care – a form of socialism if you will. The Nazis took advantage of this by bringing the nation up out of the sewer that the Allies put them into after WWI, though they then turned on Germany and enslaved it to their evil means.
It should be noted that there was a sizable element of the occult and satanic worship within the controlling Nazi party. I would make an argument that the same forces are working the American government and our people right now. The forces of evil are attracted to military might, IMHO. Take care of them, own them, abuse them towards your evil purposes. That seems to be how it works,.
Yes, Masonry is replete with Jewish symbolism. The Jews brought much of this stuff back from Babylon and incorporated it into their new religion of Talmudism, the religion of the breakaway Pharisee Sect. And thus Jews have been central to Western Occultism during the last 2000 years, though they also took from Greek and Egyptian sources.
The Nazis recognized all this and banned Masonry – a great and brave move. They were intent on developing their own native Occultism based on old Nordic practices.
Masonic origins and pageantry stems from the Temple of Solomon. Masonic origins in the Middle Ages started as a combination of stone masons, the wealthy and the Knights Templar, who were Europe’s first bankers. The building of all those cathedrals formed a unifying force. The last Knight Templar leader, a guy named Demolay, was executed by the Pope and King of France on Friday the thirteenth. My guess is that drove the order into hiding and secrecy.
Sidebar. The Star Wars episode where the Empire plotted against the Jedi Knights and wiped almost all of them out was conceived from this wipe out of the Knights Templar.
Many Templars took refuge in Scotland, the persecution being weak there. Masons often say that was the modern origin of their movement.
4. they are good at music.
5. Weaponry,
my favorite being the Glockenspiel, AKA “mouffencannon”
Harold Covington said that in Old Movement, he saw Blacks in Nazi uniforms on occasion.
Trump just announced he will use the military to stop the caravans approaching. This might get nasty.
I agree with comments that dutiful government planning to benevolently manage the nation should include taking into account population levels and resources. But in our current environment I roll my eyes and say gimme a break.
Religion is the headwind working against government and individual efforts of population and family planning. The Vatican, with over a billion followers worldwide, won’t even allow simple passive methods like birth control pills and condoms in its family planning doctrine. That’s outdated and total crap. Catholics use a ton of birth control, even in Italy the birth rate is HALF of replacement level. The Vatican is asleep.
Catholic orders in the USA run 600 major hospitals and gladly make use of just about every scientific advance pharma has created … except birth control pills. It’s insane, but towering hypocrisy is the hallmark of most religions. It doesn’t have to make sense, it just has to support the guilt tripping used by religions to dominate their sheeple. Over the eons, religion has played a truly masterful game of control. Still do; ergo suicide bombers, 72 virgins in heaven, and all that jazz.
Not to be outdone by Catholics, evangelicals now claim birth control pills and condoms are murder, a charge long reserved for abortion. The sheeple are increasingly brainwashed that government is the enemy and only our god can fix things for you, so ignore your own intellect and support our set of charlatans … oh, pass the collection plate brother. No matter than in just the last 6000 years we humans have invented at least 3700 gods to explain or fix stuff. Yeah, right.
With these religious headwinds I roll my eyes when I think the U.S. government could even do a tiny step like appropriating funds to study the issues, much less actually do something. They’d argue for decades and still not issue guidelines or set tax policies towards population planning. The “Freedom Caucus” in congress will wrap itself in the flag and wave plastic crosses provided by evangelical lobbyists at this affront to personal freedom. Hah. “Freedom” isn’t even on their list; it’s a short list, the only thing on it is “control.”
Religion is our enemy the world over. Religion is the major source of most bloodletting in the middle east, like the current clusterfuck in Syria. Battle lines, and political divisions, are often drawn along religious lines.
With today’s GOP and evangelicals wrapped around each other like a braided rope they will end up hanging us all someday unless we clearly see the enemy …religion. Get religion out of our politics and our governments.
Organized religion, yes – Faith, no.
The papacy (Catholicism) arose as a result of a successful conspiracy to split the Christianity, and was a world project of an unknown origin, apparently associated with Mithraism and the Great Anti-Christian conspiracy, but quite distinct and traced in its actions in history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Conspiracy
And when you consider that early Christianity merged into what remained of the Roman Empire to eventually become what is now the Vatican, the danger lights should be flashing out of control! Add in the evils that Martin Luther fought to reform, especially the selling of “Indulgences” for the right price and I cannot see how anyone can maintain anything but distain for the entire King of the North Empire.
And which Roman Empire are you talking about?
Eastern Roman Empire survived another 1000 after the fall of the Western Roman Empire until it was destroyed by the Western Barbarians – so called Crusaders – during the Fourth Crusade.
In 313 the Emperor Constantine issued the Edict of Milan decriminalizing Christianity as a religion in the Empire. The Empire did not split into Eastern and Western empires until 395 AD.
No, it did not split.
By 285 CE the Roman Empire had grown so vast that it was no longer feasible to govern all the provinces from the central seat of Rome.
The Emperor Diocletian divided the empire into halves with the Eastern Empire governed out of Byzantium (later Constantinople) and the Western Empire governed from Rome.
The fall of the Roman Empire was another experiment in diversity that failed. I can just imagine the latter years filled with Liberal “mob” Romans fighting the Conservative Romans with the Emperor leading the Deep State. When the legions became non-Roman and joined the Germanic tribes, western Rome was finished.
The mystery of why Luther turned against the Jews when before they had been on such good terms is no mystery at all: a scholar who could read Hebrew took mercy on him and told him what they really believed a la their most sacred book, the Talmud. He realized that the Catholics had been right and the Jews were merely using him. Luther wasn’t the sort of man to take being duped very kindly.
Lutheran publishers are so far gone that they won’t even publish their own founder’s book, “The Jews and Their Lies.”
Religion is an excuse for people to be the rotten group of SOBs that we seem to be as humans. Join a church and you will find a group of old fogeys trying desperately to exercise their power drives. Totally obnoxious. Where religion becomes dangerous is where it supports an ethnic group. Basic religion, such as Christianity divvies up into sub groups to support ethic differences. So the sub religion is just another excuse to declare war on each other. Sunnis kill Shias, Arabs against Persians, everybody fights Jews, Catholics tried to eradicate Protestants during the Renaissance, then Protestants tried to clobber Catholics in England. Each one of these had nothing to do with the religion, just the ethnic difference. Religion should be a moderator of hate, look at today, it still does not work.
Cult is the root of Culture. And Culture is upstream from politics. As is race. Each people transformed Christianity or Islam to suit their unique needs. To try to force everyone into the same mold is what the monster Procrustes tried to do to unwary travelers on his bed. Too tall? Cut your feet off. Too short? Get stretched.
The root of ‘culture’ is ‘colere’ to tend or cultivate (land).
The social extrapolation came much later.
“Each people transformed Christianity or Islam to suit their unique needs.”
Exactly. Cherry picking. So you might as well admit that your world view comes first and you stick bits of cherry-picked ‘Christianity’ on to it opportunistically afterwards.
It would be more honest to leave the Christianity out of it and say ‘this is what I believe because it suits me’. You have no theological backing for your beliefs.
GK Chesterton was right. ‘Christianity has not been tried and found wanting – it has been found difficult and never tried.’ Not ‘at scale’ anyway.
GreenAlba,
You do know that you are discussing religion with someone who makes it up as he goes along.
He’s demonstrated his expertise in Judaism and Vedic religions to me repeatedly and found wanting.
Rush: Our immigration law is bizarre, with us not being able to send immigrants back to their country of origin if their country does not adjoin ours, in other words, except for Mexico and Canada. No doubt this was enacted for compassionate (so called) reasons, but it has been used against us shamefully by the Left and by Mexico. Without support from Mexico, this Law serves us very ill indeed. This was the whole rationale of the Caravan of Doom that Mexico was letting pass thru to our border. Some say it’s been broken up, but others say it’s still coming in smaller groups.
Will Trump redeem himself and put troops on the border until the Wall is built? From Politico:
President Donald Trump said Tuesday he wants the military to deploy troops along the U.S.-Mexico border to protect the nation until a wall is built at the southern border.
“We are going to be guarding our border with our military. That’s a big step,” Trump said during a session at the White House with the leaders of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. “We cannot have people flowing into our country illegally, disappearing and, by the way, never showing up for court.”
A senior official at the Department of Homeland Security said Tuesday that putting troops on the U.S.-Mexico border had been under discussion but that no roll-out had been planned because of unresolved policy issues. The official said Secretary of Defense James Mattis did not want armed troops at the border.
Spokespeople for the Pentagon and Mattis did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
All Western Colored Projects consider that humanity has broken up into two biologically different kinds of humans, which I conditionally call perfecti and profane, and this makes ALL these projects anti-Christian heresy, since the very idea of such separation rejects the Christian concept of Incarnation.
The Western Black Project considers that the superior race perfecti can treat the profane as animals denying them the right to life and kill them in view of the lack of usefulness for the perfecti.
The Red Project unfolds the Black a 180 degrees and considers perfecti as a parasite, which must be exterminated as a class.
The White Project believes that the perfecti should take care of the profane, in the sense that not the profane that feed the perfecti, but on the contrary perfecti give the work of profane, which without them can not organize the production process.
You understand what conclusions the Western Colored Projects have made from creation of the Red USSR from the wreckage of Orthodox Russia, destroyed by a Western Black Project.
Meanwhile, the Western Colored Projects are trying to unite now on the basis of the opposition of Putin’s Russia, or rather, to Russian Orthodoxy, on which Putin is trying to rely.
They unfairly call Russian Orthodoxy “Russian Orthodox fascism”, deliberately confusing Fascism and Nazism. The main idea of this confusion is that Putin’s attitude regarding the two main markers of the Colored Projects – the attitude toward the church and the Jews – is really very similar to the attitude to these markers by Mussolini if, at the crossroads of the cultural border between West and East, replace Russian Orthodox Church with Roman Catholicism, and Hasidim with Italian Jewry, which turned out to be the only surviving part of European Jewry in the Holocaust.
“Trump just announced he will use the military to stop the caravans approaching. This might get nasty.” –John AZ
The military is not obligated to obey illegal orders. Unarmed, poor brown people arriving at the border to request asylum, as is their legal right to do, does not constitute an “invasion” requiring military assistance.
Trump is simply upping the rhetoric to get people excited and easier to manipulate. Pay him no mind.
And how many will you be inviting into your home?
Immigrants from Central America work harder than native-born citizens. They start their own businesses doing work that citizens don’t want to do. They earn money. They pay taxes. They pay their own way, just like the Irish, Polish, English, German, and Chinese immigrants before them did.
Nobody has to “invite” them into their home. They have their own families to raise. They want their own homes… and eventually they get them. They create jobs for others, for citizens.
It’s called the American dream and it has worked for millions and will continue to do so. Trump cannot kill the American dream. Trump cannot stop immigrants by sending the military to the border.
What we are witnessing today is the anti-Christian war and even Hillary Clinton’s support for her favorite Islamists in Kosovo, Egypt, Libya, Iraq and Syria is due to the fact that Islamists, unlike Muslims who worship Issa, mercilessly destroy Christians who lived in these countries for millennia.
And the fanatical hatred of the Western Black Project toward Russia, which distinguishes it from the Red and White projects, is the continuation of the Fourth Crusade, part of which was the Northern crusades, one of which ended on the ice of Lake Peipsi.
It is with that associated the support by the Black Project to the USSR, when it seemed that after the reign of Trotsky, Moscow would become the capital of world anti-Christianity.
Moreover, the Truman plot and the cold war broke out because Stalin closed the Communist International (Comintern) during the Great Patriotic War in 1943 and began building the Orthodox International instead.
And the actions of Hillary Clinton show that she understands that Orthodoxy is Christianity, and the clones of the Church of England in America are Christian because the Church of England has maintained its connection with Orthodoxy, which manifested itself in the desire of the Anglicans to move to Orthodoxy a little over a hundred years ago and in the Orthodox prayer service which ended the republican convention in 2016.
Thus CUI PRODEST; CUI BONO quite unequivocally reveal the dividing lines in the West:
(England of Theresa May) + (EU of Junker and Merkel) + (America of Hillary Clinton) – Black Project
(America Steve Bannon) + (England of Boris Johnson) + (Europe of Gerhard Schroeder, Sebastian Kurtz and Beppe Grillo) – Red Project
(America Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders) + (England Elizabeth II) + (Europe Maria Le Pen and Pope Francis) – White Project
Moreover, these lines are based on the position that these politicians occupy on religious issues, since the world civil war was unleashed by the Black Project as an anti-Christian war.
This was manifested in the fact that during the election campaign Hillary Clinton promised to oblige all churches in America to marry homosexuals, despite that the gays themselves, on whom Obama relied in the fight against Hillary Clinton, have no relation to the religious war.
Indeed, if the Bible instead of homosexuality forbade keeping aquariums, Hillary Clinton would require the churches to just float the tropical fish in the altar.
“Moreover, these lines are based on the position that these politicians occupy on religious issues”
(1) The Queen is a devout Anglican (well, we assume she’s devout). In fact she’s the head Anglican, as she necessarily would be, being the Supreme Governor of the Church of England.
(2) Theresa May is a devout Anglican (and Anglican vicar’s daughter). For all I don’t share her political stance on most things I have no reason to doubt her devout Christianity.
But then I don’t know anything about Black, White or Red projects, or projects with go-faster stripes, so maybe this apparent contradiction isn’t a contradiction at all…
Theresa May is a devout Anglican
Are you 100% certain she never asked for aquariums on the altars?
Ok, ok, that’s an unfair question.
Does she support an Anglican church performing a gay’s wedding? Does the Queen?
“Does she support an Anglican church performing a gay’s wedding? Does the Queen?”
I don’t know about her views specifically on *Anglican* gay marriages, but I’ve checked her voting record on gay issues for you.
Here it is:
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10426/theresa_may/maidenhead/divisions?policy=826
The relevant bits:
On 5 Feb 2013:
Theresa May voted in favour of allowing same sex couples to marry.
On 5 Mar 2014:
Theresa May voted to make same sex marriage available to armed forces personnel outside the UK.
That only takes us so far.
And I obviously can’t tell you what the Queen’ s views are, since she doesn’t get a vote on anything at all, but I assume that, officially, she has to go along with whatever the Synod votes for at any given time.
I strongly suspect that the Queen’s and Treeza’s personal views on the matter are much the same – and if I were a betting person I’d bet on them both having a position you might call the ‘middle way’, i.e. that they accept gay marriage (I believe the parliamentary vote was a free vote, without use of the party whip, given it was held to be a matter of conscience) but that they might not be comfortable – yet – with an actual Anglican service. The first Anglican gay marriage took place in Scotland (the Scottish Episcopal Church represents the Anglican Communion in Scotland), where the people are a bit more open-minded.
But most people – and most Anglicans – have moved beyond the obsessions with other people’s sex lives that seem to have such a hold on the American psyche. There are more important things to worry about.
Ok, but I am no asking about the gay marriage as civil ceremony, I am asking about forcing the Church to perform a Rite of Wedding on gay persons – that’s what Hillary called for, citing the right of gay persons to equal “ceremonial service” from the Church. (just like baking a wedding cake).
That’s two uuuge differences.
I don’t think that a lay person has any business telling a church what they should allow on their own premises in the context of their doctrine, unless it conflicts with the law generally (e.g. if they were performing marriages of juveniles, as a hypothetical example).
So, I presume we agree on that. I don’t think churches exist to provide ‘ceremonial services’ for any Tom, Dick or Harry who doesn’t agree with their doctrine. So, for instance, I’d agree with any clergyman who refused to marry a heterosexual couple in his/her church if they were only nominally Christian. Currently, endless numbers of people get married in church – and get their children Christened – who don’t believe a word of what they’re promising. More so in established churches like the C of E.
What I was suggesting wasn’t that Theresa would approve of a gay church marriage – I was only suggesting that she and the Queen would very likely have similar views on the matter, which is what I think.
Your main point was that their religious views were somehow in opposition. They’re both traditional Anglicans, so their religious views will be fairly similar. The Queen has seen three of her four children divorced – she’s had to be quite open minded on church doctrine and secular reality.
Having said that, if they’re not there to provide ceremonial services to the community I’m not sure why we’re subsidising them 🙂 . Here they’re treated as charities and don’t pay full local taxes.
This article answer many questions. The injunction to love one’s enemies is clarified once one knows that three words were used for different types of enemy. The one used in the New Testament was only one’s personal enemy, not the enemy of one’s nation or people.
Also light is thrown on why Pharaoh allowed Joseph to treat the Egyptian people so cruelly (making them buy back the grain they had donated for the time of famine and even selling themselves into slavery once their money had run out). That Pharaoh wasn’t Egyptian at all, but rather one of the Hyksos, Semitic conquerors who ruled Egypt at that time. No wonder he was so well disposed towards Joe and his kin and so poorly disposed towards the Egyptians – they were cousins if not brother peoples. JS
In short, the Liberal attempt to merge all people’s together is utterly non Christian and non-biblical, a repetition of the Tower of Babel, an attempt to distort Nature and unseat God and Natural Law.
The Christian Doctrine of Nations
In the September 1997 issue of American Renaissance there was a debate on whether Christianity is at least partly to blame for the demise of Western Civilization and the suicidal course being pursued by Western peoples. Both positions were ably argued, and on the whole I had to agree that the key to the controversy was a distinction between historical Christianity and contemporary Christianity. As Michael W. Masters (“How Christianity Harms the Race”) acknowledged implicitly and Victor Craig (“Defense of the Faith”) acknowledged explicitly, the two are not the same; and, as Mr. Craig argued persuasively, historical Christianity has not been indifferent to the fate of the European peoples.
The situation today is quite different. Whether Catholic or Protestant, conservative or liberal, all Western churches have embraced leftist dogmas on questions of nationality and race. The only difference appears to be that the more liberal churches openly support the multicultural and anti-white agenda, while the conservative churches ignore it. Of course, ignoring an agenda that pervades everything from politics to advertising is a form of tacit acceptance. The question is not whether Western churches are betraying their predominantly white congregations; they are. The question is whether they have doctrinal justification to do so.
It would be hard to overestimate the extent to which churches have surrendered to the leftist racial world view. Two years ago, the Pope said this about the inundation of Western countries by Third-World “refugees:” “These foreigners are above all our brothers, and no one should be excepted for reasons of race and religion.” Of course, one could argue that race and religion are the two most important reasons to prevent foreigners from settling in one’s homeland. A common race is the foundation of any true nation, while a common religion is the foundation of a common moral code.
Leaving aside the race question for a moment, what kind of insanity has gripped the Catholic hierarchy that it would maintain that a Christian country should not keep out non-Christians? Whatever the answer, Protestant churches in Northern Europe and North America suffer a similar affliction. While liberal Protestants prate about the endless benefits of “diversity,” conservative Protestants boast they will convert the newcomers. So lost have they become in the mists of political correctness, so effeminate has become their Christianity, they do not realize the erection of mosques, Hindu temples, and Buddhist shrines in the formerly Christian lands of the West is not a sign of progress in world evangelism but is terrible regress and defeat.
If the children of these pagan newcomers are, indeed, to be converted from the religions of their parents the contest will be between evangelicals and hedonistic liberals. Is there any doubt that the latter will sweep the field? These children’s parents came here to enjoy the good life and escape the challenges of building up their own nations. Their children will inherit this materialistic and self-seeking orientation. Christians can boast all they want about tolerance and love of foreigners, but immigration is only further marginalizing Christianity in our culture.
Some Christian leaders have been so bold as to call on the Western peoples to commit racial suicide so as to make the newcomers feel more welcome. Billy Graham himself recently told white Christians they had a moral duty to foster total racial integration “in our homes, in our worship services, even in our marriages.” Of course, if every young European in the world were to take a non-European wife or husband, the European people would cease to exist in just one generation.
As far as I know, not a single Christian leader condemned, or even criticized, Billy Graham’s call for white extinction as a solution to the race problem. Billy Graham’s position is similar to that of the former Republican congressman from Southern California, Robert Dornan, who said before a USA Today editorial board meeting: “I want to see America stay a nation of immigrants, and if we lose our Northern European stock — your coloring and mine, blue eyes and fair hair — tough! So what if 5,000 years from now we’re all going to have a golden tan . . . We’re all going to be blended together because of travel, and because of the information highway.” On the race and nationality questions the churches are following the lead of the dominant secular culture, not the other way around.
While few evangelical leaders are as bold as Rev. Graham, many come close. The former director of the Christian Coalition, Ralph Reed, has been particularly eager for the “Christian Right” to support the racial agenda of the Secular Left. At the first Congress of Racial Justice and Reconciliation, held in Washington, DC, in May 1997, Mr. Reed agreed that racial “injustice” was widespread in bank loans, housing, inner-city funding, and in prison sentences. He also agreed there had been a white racist conspiracy to burn black churches. (Readers of AR know that this “conspiracy” was a hoax.) The Christian Coalition launched something called the Samaritan Project, to help rebuild black churches.
Nor should it be forgotten that Mr. Reed and the Christian Coalition are largely responsible for stopping Pat Buchanan’s insurgent drive for the Republican presidential nomination in 1996. After winning in New Hampshire, Mr. Buchanan had only to win in conservative South Carolina to establish himself as the front runner ahead of Bob Dole. Mr. Reed and other coalition members simply repeated the leftist media charges that Buchanan was a “racist” and an “extremist,” thus helping Mr. Dole win the primary and nomination.
About the same time, the Christian Coalition helped defeat proposed legislation in Congress that would have cut legal immigration by a modest one-third on the grounds that it would have prevented immigrants from bringing in relatives, thereby thwarting “family reunification.” Such an objection is sentimental nonsense, for it is immigrants who first chose to separate from their families and people. Americans are not obligated to end such freely chosen separations by throwing open their borders. [On this incident, see the remarks made by the president of the American Immigration Control Foundation, John Vinson, in his pamphlet “Immigration and Nation, a Biblical View” (AICF, 1997), p. 16.]
Most Christians never mention, much less oppose, policies that directly harm whites: racial quotas, affirmative action, anti-discrimination laws, forced busing, extortion-motivated “civil rights” lawsuits, black-on-white hate crimes, interracial marriage, and Third-World immigration. They believe Martin Luther King, Jr. was an American Christian hero who truly deserves to be the only American with a national holiday in his honor. They believe “racism” is a sin, but a sin only when it is white racial consciousness or loyalty, never non-white racial consciousness or identity. They believe whites have a moral and Christian obligation to “bridge the racial divide,” integrate their churches, reach out to people of color, etc. It therefore seems a bad joke to speak of Christian conservatives or the Christian Right, for there is nothing conservative about acquiescing in a demographic revolution to turn whites into a minority.
White Christians became racial liberals mainly because the Church has been besieged by the same forces that now dominate every other Western institution. The universalistic and egalitarian ideas of the Enlightenment have now fully penetrated Western culture. Feminist and socialist values have worked their way into Western culture and have overthrown traditional ideals of manhood, patriarchy, and chivalry. Biblical illiteracy, illogic, and historical ignorance have created an environment in which the Scriptures have been perverted into a religious justification for racial liberalism.
There are many examples of such perversion. Christian ministers and writers love to cite the Apostle Paul, who wrote that “there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him” (Romans 10:12, New American Standard Bible; all quotations are from this translation, which is known for its accuracy.) They argue this means we should make no racial or ethnic distinctions or even think in racial terms. Paul is said to be conveying the same idea in another epistle: “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:28). In context it is clear these two passages reveal God’s offer of salvation to all regardless of race, nationality, social standing, or sex. They do not mean — and as we will see Paul himself makes it clear he does not mean — that such distinctions should be ignored, that they are unimportant, that acting upon them is sinful, or that they should be overthrown.
If the liberal interpretation of these passages were correct, God would be not only a racial liberal but a socialist and a feminist as well. If these passages endorse the abolition of racial identity and distinctions based on them, they also endorse the obliteration of sex distinctions. And if the Bible supports racial liberalism, why has this fact come to light only in the past century, a century known for its secularism and declining moral and cultural standards?
The Old Testament
Contrary to what one has heard from the pulpit or on Christian radio, the Bible supports racial preservation and even separation. The Bible teaches that mankind is composed not of an amorphous mass of individuals but of nations. It also teaches that the basis of all genuine nations is a common ethnic stock, which is more important even than a common language, culture, political allegiance, or locale. The Bible praises homogeneity as a blessing, and posits it as the basis of love, friendship, social peace, and national harmony. The Bible also sanctions love of nation and fatherland, a virtue antagonistic to indiscriminate and large-scale immigration.
According to the famous “Table of Nations” in Genesis 10, God organized mankind into discrete nations in the aftermath of the Great Flood. He created three sets of nations, each set descending from one of the three sons of Noah: Fourteen nations from Japheth; 30 from Ham; and 26 from Shem. After listing the progenitors of each of the nations that sprang from Shem, Genesis uses a formula closely repeated for Ham and Japheth, “These are the sons of Shem, according to their families, according to their languages, by their lands, according to their nations” (Gen. 10:31). The Genesis account of the dispersal of the nations concludes, “These are the families of the sons of Noah, according to their genealogies, by their nations; and out of these the nations were separated on the earth after the flood” (Gen. 10:32). These passages make clear that the essential constituent element of each nation is common ancestry, together with a “land” and a distinctive language. This is God’s creation, with no indication that it is anything other than entirely in accord with His will.
Genesis describes the areas in which these different nations settled in terms of migration patterns that conform to a broad division of races. For centuries there was universal agreement in Christendom that the Europeans were descended from Japheth, the Semites (Jews, Persians, Syrians, Arabs, and Asians) from Shem, and the Africans (including Egyptians and Canaanites) from Ham. However literally or figuratively one chooses to interpret this account, Genesis clearly divides the peoples of the earth into groups of related but racially distinct peoples.
Modern Biblical commentators and Christian leaders have tried to deny the obvious by insisting that the division of nations is not providential but accidental. They believe God intended the nations to be all as one (i.e. to cease being distinct nations). Therefore, they urge Christians to do all they can to restore mankind’s lost unity by tearing down national boundaries, promoting mass immigration, teaching English as a universal language, and intermarrying freely with members of other racial families.
This interpretation suffers from several flaws. First, if God intended mankind to be as one, why did He create many nations in the first place? Second, it is contradicted by the order of the Genesis narrative. The Table of Nations comes before the story of the Tower of Babel, indicating that God’s ordering and separating of the nations was part of His plan from the beginning. The sons of Noah refused to follow God’s clear mandate to separate and fill the earth. Instead, they gathered together, founded a city, and built a huge tower as a symbol of their power and independence. However, God’s sovereign purpose cannot be frustrated by the designs of men: “The Lord confused the language of all the earth; and from there the Lord scattered them abroad over the face of all the earth” (Gen. 11:9).
The scattering was neither arbitrary nor chaotic. According to the Biblical account, people moved with their nations in an orderly exodus that fulfilled God’s purpose. As we learn in Deuteronomy, God gave each nation or people its own lands and separated these lands by territorial boundaries: “When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when He separated the sons of man, He set the boundaries of the people” (Deuteronomy 32:8).
The third flaw of the modernist interpretation of Genesis 10 and 11 — and from a Christian perspective the most dangerous — is that it repeats the sin of the people who built the Tower of Babel. The modern desire for global unity, amalgamation of peoples, destruction of territorial boundaries, English as a universal language, and construction of a world government is difficult to see as anything other than a sinful desire to rebuild the Tower of Babel and create an autonomous humanistic order independent of God. It is a rebellious project that defies God’s plan for world order based on discrete nations each residing within its own lands.
Fourth, the project for global unity sullies the beauty and diversity of God’s human creation, in that it suggests that the existence of different races, which vary markedly in physical appearance, is a mistake that man is to remedy by racial intermarriage. In this warped version of creation, God is the bungler and man the redeemer.
Throughout the Old Testament, Biblical writers consistently refer to mankind as composed of distinct peoples and nations, and not as an undifferentiated mass of individuals. In fact, Hebrew has no equivalent for the English word “people,” meaning mankind in general. The psalmist is therefore talking about separate peoples when he declares that all the non-Jewish nations are in rebellion against God, and asks “why are the nations in an uproar and the peoples devising a vain thing?” (Psalm 2:1 NASB). When the psalmist speaks of the day when all mankind shall acknowledge the one true God, he shouts “Praise the Lord, all nations; laud Him all peoples” (Psalm 117:1). Likewise, “All the nations whom You have made shall come and worship before You, O Lord” (Psalm 86:9). Although the nations join in praising God, they by no means lose their national identities.
The New Testament
The New Testament reaffirms the national and ethnic distinctions of the Old Testament, if anything, in stronger and clearer terms. Unlike Hebrew, the Greek in which the New Testament was written does have a word for mankind, anthropon; however, it is used infrequently and never suggests the elimination of the national or racial divisions of mankind. Luke wrote that God “made from one [Adam] every nation [ethnos] of mankind [anthropon] to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times, and the boundaries of their habitation” (Acts 17:26). Christ himself commanded his disciples to go and “make disciples of all the nations [ethna]” (Matthew 28:19).
Paul — though often cited in Christian attacks on race and nationality — both in his writings and personal loyalties clearly supports the view that nationality is based on a common ethnic origin. To begin with, one can well ask to what nation did Paul belong, and on what basis? He was born a Roman citizen in the province of Cilicia in Asia Minor. He spoke both Hebrew and Greek fluently. Religiously, he was not only Jewish but a Pharisee. He converted to Christianity. In answer to our questions about his nationality, the modern Christian could offer four possible answers: Paul was a Cilician (place of birth); he was a Roman (citizenship); he was a Greek (language); he was a Jew but became a Christian (religion).
According to Paul himself, all four answers would be wrong, for Paul on numerous occasions, after he became a Christian, identified himself as belonging to the Jewish nation on the basis of birth and heritage — not merely a Jew but of a particular tribe. He was, he claimed, “of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of the Hebrews” (Philippians 3:5). When he wrote to the Romans in the city of Rome, he did not claim to be Roman (except by citizenship) but Jewish: “I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin” (Romans 11:1). He referred to the Israelites as his “brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh, who are Israelites” (Romans 9:3, 4). He also referred to the Roman Christians as his “brethren” (Romans 11:25), but he is clearly speaking in a spiritual sense.
Thus, Paul made a distinction between his ethnic nation (Israel) and his spiritual nation (the Christians). Far from the latter superseding or abolishing the former, as most modern Christian leaders would claim, Paul affirms and honors both as an integral part of his identity. He hoped that more of his ethnic kinsmen would come to accept Christ as the Son of God: “Brethren [Roman Christians], my heart’s desire and my prayer to God for them [Israel] is for their salvation” (Romans 10:1 NKJV). He also expressed confidence that God will not “reject His people,” meaning the Jews (Romans 11:1).
Paul uses the Greek word laos (a people) to refer to both an ethnic people, as in the people of Israel, and a spiritual people, as in the people of God. Paul’s use of that word in both contexts proves that ethnicity is not rendered obsolete or illegitimate by coming to Christ.
Paul’s ethnic identification is consistent with everything we know about the ancients, whether Greek, Roman, German, Celt, or Semite. They understood a nation to be a people of a common ancestry or race. The Roman Empire was not a nation, nor did any ancient author consider it to be a nation. They understood it to be an empire made up of many nations.
Differences between English and the Greek of the New Testament can cause misunderstanding. Christ’s commandment that Christians should “love their enemies” sounds in English like a radical, all-embracing injunction that would do away with ethnic or national differences. Greek, however, distinguishes between personal enemies and foreign enemies. It has three words for enemy: polemios (a foreign enemy), agonistes (a competitor or rival), and echthros (a private enemy; literally, one whom you hate). When Christ commands Christians to “love their enemies” (Matthew 5:44; Luke 6:27,35), he uses the word for one’s private enemy, that is to say someone with whom a Christian has quarreled. Never is this injunction applied to foreign enemies, the enemies of one’s people.
Intermarriage
The Bible endorses ethnic homogeneity as a positive good that contributes to peace, harmony, and happiness, whether it be in marriage, friendship, or society. The Hebrews were forbidden, first by their patriarchs and later by God Himself, to marry the sons and daughters of the peoples of the land God had promised them. Abraham made his chief servant swear not to search for a wife for his son Isaac “from the daughters of the Canaanites [Hamites], among whom I live; but you will go to my country and to my relatives [descendants of Shem], and take a wife for my son Isaac” (Gen. 24:3,4).
When Jacob and his family (sons, daughters, and grandchildren), 70 persons in all, went to Egypt to dwell in the land of Goshen under the protection of Pharaoh, only one son, Simeon, had a Canaanite wife in addition to a Hebrew wife (Genesis 46:8-26). Thus, out of all the grandchildren of Jacob, only one was part Hamitic. Upon their return to the Promised Land some 400 years later, Moses forbade the children of Israel to intermarry with the Canaanites, whose land they were preparing to invade and occupy (Exodus 34:12-16; Deuteronomy 7:3).
Modern theologians, Bible commentators, and pastors are quick to insist that God’s prohibition of such marriages was based on religion rather than race or ethnicity. Their shocking conclusion is that while white Christians are forbidden to marry non-Christian whites they are free to marry non-whites so long as they are Christians. They fail to see that God’s prohibition was based on both religious and racial considerations. God does not condemn interethnic or interracial marriage per se, but He does lay down a principle that would forbid it as a common or widespread practice. The late Rousas J. Rushdoony points out that Biblical law and example is against all kinds of unequal yoking: “The burden of the law is thus against inter-religious, interracial, and inter-cultural marriages, in that they normally go against the very community which marriage is designed to establish” (The Institutes of Biblical Law, 1973). Many scriptural examples support this interpretation, as we shall see.
Liberal Christians repeatedly point out that God blessed certain interethnic marriages. The examples they cite are always between Israelites and members of other Semitic peoples who were their ethnic kin (descendants of Shem). When Joseph was serving the Pharaoh of Egypt as his chief adviser and servant, he married a member of the ruling class of Egypt and had sons by her, including Manasseh and Ephraim, both of whom would become the patriarchs of two of the twelve tribes of Israel (Genesis 41:8,50-52). However, his wife, as well as the entire ruling class of Egypt of that time, were Hyksos (a Semitic people who were ruling Egypt at the time). They were thus the cousins, or racial kin, of the Hebrews. Undoubtedly, this ethnic and cultural kinship had something to do with the favor with which the Pharaoh and his people viewed the Hebrews during this period.
When Moses fled Egypt some 400 hundred years later, he sought refuge among the Semitic Midianites, a people descended from Abraham and Keturah, and he took a wife from among them. He thus did not violate God’s prohibition against intermarrying with the cursed Hamitic peoples. (After Ham showed disrespect to his father Noah, God cursed him and all his descendants — Gen. 9:20-25.) Nor does the famous marriage between Boaz (an Israelite) and Ruth (a Moabite) violate the principle of ethnic consanguinity, for the Moabites too were Semites, being descendants of Abraham’s nephew Lot.
Foreign marriages in the Bible are almost always portrayed as acts of unfaithfulness, disobedience, or lust. God promised Abraham many descendants and to make of them a great nation. Abraham believed the Lord, but his wife Sarah was too old to bear children. She therefore permitted Abraham to have intercourse with their Egyptian maid, Hagar. As God intended miraculously to open Sarah’s womb, the result was that Abraham soon had two sons, Ishmael by Hagar (a Hamite) and Isaac by Sarah (a Semite). The result of this mixed lineage was a divided and unhappy household. Eventually, Abraham sent Hagar and Ishmael away. As Hagar chose an Egyptian wife for Ishmael, the Ishmaelites gradually merged into the surrounding Hamitic peoples and soon ceased to exist as a separate people.
Later, Esau (Isaac and Rebekah’s eldest son) demonstrated his unfaithfulness to God and his people, as well as his lack of sexual restraint, by marrying two Canaanite women who became a “grief of mind to Isaac and Rebekah” (Gen. 26:34, 35). The descendants of Esau’s marriage (the Edomites) became persistent enemies of the Hebrews.
The great Israelite hero Samson had a weakness for foreign women. Against the wishes of his parents, he took a wife from among the Philistines, and he afterward frequented Philistine harlots. It was this lack of sexual restraint and his unwillingness to abide by God’s laws that led to his blindness and death at the hands of his enemies (Judges 16).
Centuries later, when a remnant of the Hebrews returned from their long captivity in Babylon, they repented of their fathers’ propensity to intermarry with foreigners: “The people of Israel and the priests and the Levites have not separated themselves from the peoples of the lands . . . for they have taken some of their daughters as wives for themselves and their sons, so that the holy race is intermingled with the people of the lands” (Ezra 9:1, 2). This is an unmistakable condemnation of ethnic mixture.
Prophecy
Prophecy in both the Old and the New Testament gives strong evidence that God considers his division of mankind into various national or racial families not as an obstacle to be overcome but as an integral, praiseworthy, and permanent part of His creation. In some passages, prophecy points to the eternal significance of these distinctions. David prophesied that “all the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the Lord, and all the families of the nations will worship before Thee” (Psalm 22:27 NASB); and that “all the nations whom Thou hast made shall come and worship before Thee” (Psalm 86:9 NASB). James, the half-brother of Jesus, declared before the Jerusalem Church Council that the Father had revealed through the prophet Amos that He would send his Son (Jesus Christ) “so that the rest of mankind [anthropon] may seek the Lord, even all the nations [ethne] who are called by My name” (Acts 15: 17). Election does not destroy national identity.
The Book of Revelations provides clear evidence for the eternal destiny and indestructibility of the nations. In the New Jerusalem (Heaven), “the nations [ethne] shall walk by its light . . . and they shall bring the glory and honor of the nations [ethnon] into it” (Rev. 21:24, 26). Furthermore, John revealed that the leaves of the Tree of Life in the midst of Paradise “were for the healing of the nations [ethnon]” (Rev. 22:2). These passages are impossible to understand without recourse to a doctrine of Christian ethnic nationalism.
Moreover, it is only recently that the churches of the West have claimed that ethnic and racial nationalism are in conflict with Christianity. The great Protestant reformer John Calvin affirmed the necessity and goodness of the national division of mankind: “Just as there are in a military camp separate lines for each platoon and section, men are placed on the earth so that each nation may be content with its own boundaries.” In this manner, “God, by his providence reduces to order that which is confused” (Quoted in William J. Bouwsma, John Calvin: A Sixteenth Century Portrait; New York: Oxford University Press, 1988, p. 35).
Of the major Christian churches, only the Eastern Orthodox Church seems to have retained an understanding of the legitimate and necessary place of the nation in the life of the individual Christian. In a recent document, the bishops of the Russian Orthodox Church affirm both the universality and particularity of every Christian: “The universal nature of the Church, however, does not mean that Christians should have no right to national identity and national self-expressions.” Rather, they urge Christians to develop “national Christian cultures.”
The bishops also challenge the leftist dogma that nationalism is acceptable only when it is based on non-ethnic factors: “Christian patriotism may be expressed at the same time with regard to a nation as an ethnic community and as a community of its citizens. The Orthodox Christian is called to love his fatherland, which has a territorial dimension, and his brothers by blood who live everywhere in the world.” In addition, “the patriotism of the Orthodox Christian should be active. It is manifested when he defends his fatherland against an enemy, works for the good of the motherland, cares for the good order of [a] people’s life through, among other things, participation in the affairs of government. The Christian is called to preserve and develop national culture and people’s self-awareness” (“Bases of the Social Concept of the Russian Orthodox Church,” Jubilee Bishops’ Council of the Russian Orthodox Church, 13-16 August 2000, pp. 4-7).
One cannot imagine the Catholic, Lutheran, Anglican, Methodist, Baptist, or Presbyterian churches issuing a document of such wisdom. It is no coincidence that the one prominent Christian writer who understands that nationalism and Christianity are not in conflict is an Eastern Orthodox Christian, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. Upon returning to his homeland in 1993, the Russian patriot explained why he had left a comfortable existence in the United States: “In Vermont I had wonderful conditions, better than anything Tolstoy ever had . . . I could have stayed there peacefully and in great happiness. But it would have been running away from my duty not to have come back. I could not escape our people’s pain.” His words stand as a rebuke to all Third-World Christians living in America who refuse to return to their homelands to build their own nations and help evangelize their own people.
For centuries Christians have had no difficulty accepting the important teaching of Scripture about the legitimacy of nations. That they now ignore this teaching or misinterpret it points to the poisonous infiltration of Enlightenment and socialist modes of thought. Socialism, whether of the Eastern Communist or Western Social Democratic variety, has been consistently hostile not only to Biblical Christianity but to the national division of mankind. The Russian Christian writer Vadim Borisov described socialism almost thirty years ago as “a well-thought out plan for the destruction of the Christian cosmos, a plan to turn mankind into an amorphous mass.”
The fall of Communism ten years ago did not discredit socialism. The Social Democratic variant is stronger than ever, and continues its work of national destruction. Borisov warned that the socialist promise of happiness through liberation from the past and the imposition of equality was false, for “an impersonal, unstructured, formless existence is impossible.”
The Apostle Paul warned believers to beware of “false prophets and deceitful workers,” for “Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light” (2 Corinthians 11:13, 14). The medieval theologian Thomas Aquinas warned Christians that Satan and his angels disguise themselves sub species boni (under the appearance of good). European Christians should be on their guard against socialists posing as Christians, for the socialistic dream of racial reconciliation and world unity leads to nothing less than the extinction of Europeans as a separate people and the destruction of their civilization. Christians must stand in defense against those who would — in the name of Christ — have us abandon our lands and our people.
https://www.amren.com/news/2018/04/christian-doctrine-racism-identity-bible/
I was shocked to find out that Billy Graham called for race mixing. Only Eastern Orthodoxy retains any understanding of God’s Law in regards to race and nation. And not even all of them, certainly not after Finc goes thru defining and pruning.
“The Bible teaches that mankind is composed not of an amorphous mass of individuals but of nations.”
The bible teaches that the earth was made in six days, Janos, and that two of every species on earth got on to a small boat. Comodo dragons and everything, presumably. All together. So I’d be wary of taking too much of it at face value.
As for that screed you posted, just out of interest, when you decide to plaster half a book on JHK’s website that has sweet FA to do with the topic of the main post, do you ask first, out of courtesy, if he’s OK with that?
Just curious. I mean, I consider I’m not out of order responding to something completely off topic that someone’s said, if I think it needs a balancing comment, but you just posted an AmRen propaganda piece that’s 5285 words long. For context, JHK’s actual post is 800 words. I’m not sure if that’s being a polite guest.
Propaganda? Because you disagree with the Bible? The BIBLE?
You counted the words, like the monk copyist you were in your previous life. Yes, a tad long, but the information is so important and utterly germane to the drift of the conversation, if you would but notice.
Janos
Propaganda would still be propaganda if I agreed with it.
It’s not propaganda because I agree or disagree with it. It’s propaganda because it’s AmRen’s opportunistic take on Christianity, from which it cherry picks to back its already-established world view. It didn’t get its world view from the bible.
And the BIBLE, as you refer to it, is a book written by a considerable number of people a very, very long time ago. You can make of it what you like and other people are at liberty to do the same. Some of those authors were happy to write about things that happened some considerable time beforehand, which they didn’t personally witness and they don’t even agree with one another.
“And the BIBLE, as you refer to it, is a book written by a considerable number of people a very, very long time ago. ”
Alba,
Do you feel it is time for an upgrade…a REAL upgrade? I would love to see a project, similar to Wiki that would allow internet users the access to rewrite, rephrase, and re-reference the old text…just like Wikipedia.
The comments on the blog would be solid gold….
“Do you feel it is time for an upgrade…a REAL upgrade? I would love to see a project, similar to Wiki that would allow internet users the access to rewrite, rephrase, and re-reference the old text…just like Wikipedia.”
I’m not sure in what sense such an upgrade would be ‘real’.
In translations of ancient texts, I can only defer to scholars of ancient texts and ancient languages. I don’t see what value any other translation would have. And there have been multiple upgrades already by scholars.And no shortage of ‘interpretations’, which sounds more like what you are suggesting.
As an aside, I very much enjoyed (twice, eventually) Melvyn Bragg’s excellent programme on William Tyndale and his translation of the bible in Tudor times.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0185y5g
Tyndale was condemned for heresy at the behest of Henry VIII and his henchmen, and strangled to death on the stake, then burned.
Wiki:
“Within four years, four English translations of the Bible were published in England at the King’s behest, including Henry’s official Great Bible. All were based on Tyndale’s work.”
“In 1611, the 54 scholars who produced the King James Bible drew significantly from Tyndale, as well as from translations that descended from his. One estimate suggests that the New Testament in the King James Version is 83% Tyndale’s and the Old Testament 76%.”
It’s not available on iPlayer any more but if you are interested I’d recommend it if you come across it. Melvyn Bragg’s always good.
“I’m not sure in what sense such an upgrade would be ‘real’.
” I don’t see what value any other translation would have. And there have been multiple upgrades”
Alba,
Do you not think that the WikiBible project would mirror our current societies…a worldview? Perhaps one billion voices? I personally do not think they would get through Genesis in my lifetime…but what polemical entertainment!
An upgrade being real? Alba, what has reality to do with it? Just imagine the literal translationists arguing with the supporters of various metaphors. I might never leave the house if such debate continued un-vetted.
I don’t doubt that such a cacaphony would be entertaining and use up huge amounts of time and electricity, elysianfield.
But I still think we’re talking about interpretation of existing translations rather than a new translation. And people already argue endlessly about whether certain bits of the bible are literally true (fundamentalists) or whether they’re metaphorical or confined to a particular age or whatever. And that’s just the people who believe in it.
Being an ignoramus who has no knowledge of Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic, I’d have nothing useful to offer in the way of a new translation of any of it. (I have been to Maaloula, in Syria, which is apparently the only place Aramaic is still spoken, but none of it rubbed off!).
And I’m no kind of copyist and never have been. (Arguably I was a bit of a monk for a portion of my life, but you’d approve of that.) A project manager, but with a close eye for detail, would be the nearest thing you’d understand for what I do. We have other people to do the more menial stuff 🙂 . My job is to manage people and processes to create books and websites that are professionally put together and meet the needs of our readers.
You, on the other hand, haven’t told us what you do when you’re not on here, but I won’t press you. Since I haven’t disparaged your supposed profession, you won’t have any need to clarify.
G.A.,
Take a tip: Posting cruel and divisive crap (thank you, Thomas Crapper) to blog spaces that are in need of some disruption (like this one) *is* his job. Nope, not to save any souls or save us from wrongheadedness; just a good and thorough muddying of the waters will do. JHK alludes that the free-speechifying is revealing and instructive; I feel it’s more about knowing thine domestic enemy operatives, but hey, six of one – a half dozen of the other. Pretended adherents to Whytopia is always a good dodge and button-pusher. I’m sure you can see how it attracts the hordes of the victimized…
I’ve noticed that as the times get “squeakier” (usually gum’mint troubles and crises), the volume and tenor of the crap increases. It’s kind of a warning klaxon that some fecal matter is making contact with the occillating air-moving device.
Cruel? In what sense? Divisive? We are already divided. And nothing is crueler than trying to join people who are naturally divided.
Have you read The Article? No one gets into Whitopia until they have read it and agreed with it.
Janos,
Yes, your comments muddy the crystal clear babbling brook that is our community….
Your jack-boots “muddy” your message…you should be “bare-footin”. Much of your truth need be whispered, so as not to provide a moment of angst, a moment of crisis for the assembled, that mourn the loss of closely held false narrative.
I think jack boots may be preferable, elysianfield. They have the virtue of honesty and you don’t want dangerous elements creeping up on you and catching you unawares.
“Have you read The Article? No one gets into Whitopia until they have read it and agreed with it.”
More divisiveness Janos?
In other words, you believe mankind IS composed of an amorphous mass of individuals or SHOULD be? I changed the period for a question mark. Mustn’t forget the question mark. I mean I don’t know do I? Not until you tell me!
The question mark is like a pirate’s hook, eager to reap the treasure of more knowledge thru crimsoning fields of once golden wheat, an enacted sunset of a very human kind.
“In other words, you believe mankind IS composed of an amorphous mass of individuals or SHOULD be?”
No. False dichotomy again.
“I mean I don’t know do I? Not until you tell me!”
No, you don’t know, Janos, but it’s nothing whatever to do with me or what I tell you.
“The question mark is like a pirate’s hook, eager to reap the treasure of more knowledge thru crimsoning fields of once golden wheat, an enacted sunset of a very human kind.”
Are you trying for a place in this weeks Pseuds’ Corner? I can nominate you if you like.
““The question mark is like a pirate’s hook, eager to reap the treasure of more knowledge thru crimsoning fields of once golden wheat, an enacted sunset of a very human kind.”
Alba,
C’mon, that was a good effort….
Credit where credit is due.
Yeah, fucking really!
I guess it’s just a matter of taste, elysianfield.
This guy thought he was a great poet too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_McGonagall
Sometimes a question mark has no more significance (or taste) than ‘uptalk’.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28708526
“As for that screed you posted, just out of interest, when you decide to plaster half a book on JHK’s website that has sweet FA to do with the topic of the main post, do you ask first, out of courtesy, if he’s OK with that?
Just curious. I mean, I consider I’m not out of order responding to something completely off topic that someone’s said, if I think it needs a balancing comment, but you just posted an AmRen propaganda piece that’s 5285 words long. For context, JHK’s actual post is 800 words. I’m not sure if that’s being a polite guest.”
An actual example, right here and in front of you, that “Nothing Matters and Anything Goes!”
welcome back to this thing GreenAlba
Just as Rabbi Loew looked on the work of his hands, the Golem, with a profound sense of satisfaction.
Did you mean Gollum from J. R. R. Tolkien’s legendarium (1937 – )
or http://golemrocks.com/
It’s hard to tell, you being so literate and cultured and shit.
Did I say Gollum or did I say Golem? The Rabbi Loew reference should have made it clear. Tolkien may have gotten Gollum from Golem, of course. Or perhaps they share the same linguistic root. He was all about such roots.
You can’t find good Golems anymore, know what I’m saying? Gort is a good Golem. Frankenstein (a German!) is a bad Golem, though not quite a Gollum.
“You can’t find good Golems anymore, know what I’m saying?” – Janos
Then come to nyc, we got everything!
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Believe it or not, I love Klezmer. Kind of folk, but very jazzy. And I can imagine it being adapted to rock.
A bit of jazz fits right in with Hindu music as well, at least the kirtans if not the classical.
still emulating?
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You People aren’t the Centre. Stop trying to drag Christianity back into Judaism – trying to make the Lord of the Universe (Jaganath) into your Tribal Deity – as if your Yahweh was the Lord of the Universe. Yahweh is an egregor – a thought form that protects the Jews. A Golem! As is Odin for us. NOT the I Am or Brahman.
Stop saying Abraham and start saying Brah-man, man. Until you do, you are no Brahmin.
Well written!
Ethnocentrism, the root of ethnic division, developed as soon as humankind used up the resources of an area of land. Human procreation was so successful that land areas could not support the human populations of hunter gatherers, so it was time to split up and move on. That is why the human race spread quickly all over the planet. Think about today, as the world starts running out of resources relative to the overpopulation going on, nationalism will spread and this Liberalism will be blown away. Survival of the fittest, nature’s way.
Interesting thing about Judaism. Reading the Torah, God’s definition of Holy Ground and the Holy areas of the Temple seem to indicate sterility, the lack of micro organisms. The surfaces of the Temple were all in cedar, a famous disinfectant, and noble metals especially gold all used in sterile environments. God’s rules to Moses involve a lot of information on cleanliness, disease control, control of food cleanliness especially control of blood content in meat, Kosher, no pork, a big source of disease, control of a big killer, leprosy. The Hebrews were a very successful people due to their ability to keep disease at bay.
God called himself a jealous God and as such wanted his people to acknowledge him only. He gave rules to Moses about Hebrews intermarrying because he knew that wives entering the People would tend to bring their gods with them, diluting the holiness of the Hebrews. Every time that the Hebrews disobeyed God’s rules, they were destroyed, many times. Two noted causes of destruction were drought and disease. Maybe a non emphasis on the cleanliness of God’s rules cause the disease outbreaks.
Ethnocentrism is built into human nature and natural law or God’s law for our species. You said the opposite a little bit up the page. I hope this article helps you to rethink this. And it’s not just for Jews either. They’re not the only ones who gets to be a People, no much how much they desire that to be the case.
Janos
Tried to find where I disagreed with ethnocentrism, couldn’t. My belief is that Man is cursed with the “original sin” of Adam and Eve. This is our humanness comprised of three sins that all the rest come from, power, ethnocentrism and the desire for revenge.Each is a residual from our distant past, and we do not seem to shake them, regardless of divine advice. Jesus preached and preached against power during his ministry, and we have failed miserably in fulfilling his advice. God Jesus opened the Word out to the whole world but we have split it into a myriad of sub religions. And forgiving seventy times seven kinda skewers the vengeance motive. We have been trying to achieve his vision, but not too successfully.
He who beats his sword into a ploughshare will do the plowing for he who doesn’t. The Church rejects pacifism. We’d all be speaking Arabic or Turkic if it hadn’t.
Christ said to “go out” and teach all men. Not to bring them and destroy your own nation. Stupid Christians. Lazy missionaries. Self hating teachers. Greedy politicians. American hating idealists. What a noxious brew.
“But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.”
Jesus was created as the propaganda mouth of Caesar. Very convenient for Caesar to create his own laws to have the power to steal to confiscate to enslave to discriminate to mass murder and to live like Caesar while you live in his toilet and eat shit, if you get to live at all.
There are only two modes of governance, local or foreign. Those that disparage nationalism fail to understand this. They also fail to explain how foreign governance has any legitimacy. The argument for easier access to foreign markets is an argument for predation. It is an argument only simpletons subscribe to.
The power of God Caesar is supreme. Even the Son of God and King of the Jews (God’s chosen) cannot oppose it. If you even so much as think of opposing God Caesar, you will be crucified at the Cross by God Caesar.
Nice gov mafia propaganda. Worked for a very long time.
My quoted directive was from Leviticus. That’s your bit, I believe, akmofo, albeit I’m sure you’ll tell me that in the original Hebrew it said ‘kick the b*stards out with my blessing. Yours, YHWH’.
And just in case you forget God Caesar’s message it will be displayed for you on every public building and you will hang icons of this gruesomeness in every room in your home and especially the bedrooms so that it will even haunt you in your sleep.
Mrs Green, temporary hospitality to strangers to your home does not mean you are obliged to relinquish the rights to your home and property. Rights that you have fought for dearly, expending much sacrifice and blood.
I’m really amazed that this nonsense is coming from something who claims to have an eye for detail. If you were working for me, you’d be fired for being unable to distinguish between the nonsense you spout and what is written in the TaNaKh!
But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.— Leviticus 19:34
There is a legitimate small role for the stranger (foreigner) dwelling among a people. Mostly for diplomacy (ahem) & trade purposes. Hordes of strangers are a different matter.
Mrs Green, you also badly confuse the situation of the Hebrews in Egypt, who did not want to stay in Egypt and did not wish to be Egyptians or any mix of. They wanted to return back to their homeland and instead were enslaved by Pharoah mass murdered by Pharoah and forbidden to leave by Pharoah.
Yan is correct, what you are advocating for, Mrs Green, is not only anti-Biblical, but is positively genocidial. It is the genocide of a people, the genocide of their culture, the genocide of their ethnic identity, the genocide of their basic human right to self governance and self preservation.
You are over-interpreting my quote, akmofo.
I have never advocated either genocide or excessive immigration (we probably differ on our definition of ‘excessive’, which is allowed). I’m merely inserting a plea against the hatred of the stranger, which is Janos’ main problem.
“I’m merely inserting a plea against the hatred of the stranger, which is Janos’ main problem.” — Green Alba
What you don’t seem to understand, GA, is that the general run of people are going to hate the stranger, whether you like it or not, when their presence becomes injurious and oppressive through sheer numbers. This is just human nature. It may be ameliorated to some extent by mass propaganda campaigns by special interests and government mouthpieces but that ultimately will not change things. Sainthood is a relatively rare thing among people
Tate is correct. THE stranger is different from millions of voracious peasants who are more like a plague of locusts.
Obviously you didn’t read the article but only counted the words. Or if you did read, you didn’t understand it – or care to. You are committed to your world of atomized deracinated individuals bereft of all culture and nationality as well, eventually all colored grey, brown, and beige. And this homogeneity is your “diversity”. Kind of like weapons of peace or ketchup as a vegetable.
What I understand, Tate, is what you say and what Janos says.
In neither case is it limited to hating strangers when they are in huge numbers. Your ridiculous views on the grandparents of Muslim five-year-olds are an example, based on nothing but blind prejudice.
You still stewing over that Green? If it weren’t an issue, nobody would be discussing it, so yeah, maybe not in your mind, but large numbers.
Hey Tate, we accomodate large numbers of immigrants here. Sounds like your location isn’t so friendly.
The population of muslims in the UK and France is about 17%. In Sweden the population of muslims is about 21% of total. In Germany and Austria the population of Muslims is about 11%.
What’s the number when it becomes excessive? What do you do when that number is exceeded? What do you do when that number is doubled? How do you walk back from such a situation? Why do we need to be in such a situation in the first place?
“I’m merely inserting a plea against the hatred of the stranger, which is Janos’ main problem.”
Alba,
And when did Janos ever express hatred for the stranger?
Caution
Wariness
Maybe fear, but never hatred.
Reference, Please!
No Man, or at least no Man who is a Man, can look on calmly as columns of alien march reaching the to the horizon march into their nation. That women react calmly or even with glee just shows that this is not an issue women are supposed to have any say in.
Again the Thought Experiment: If a few million female Chinese refugees, age 18 to 30, marched into Europe this summer, wearing shorts that revealed their lovely tanned legs, how would those same European Women react? I think with rage…
Seriously, elysianfield, have you actually read his views on Jews and black people?
Denying people equal humanity with you is hatred.
“Seriously, elysianfield, have you actually read his views on Jews and black people?” – Green Alba
I can attest for the Jews.
I leave it to a Black person to confirm for their race.
akmofo
“The population of muslims in the UK and France is about 17%. In Sweden the population of muslims is about 21% of total. In Germany and Austria the population of Muslims is about 11%.”
Your figures are entirely wrong.
https://www.thelocal.se/20161214/swedes-wildly-overestimate-muslim-population-survey
But you are not alone in being wrong, because even the Swedes are wrong – and it doesn’t take a genius to figure out why they are misinformed.
“Swedes wildly overestimate Muslim population: survey”
“When asked what proportion of the country’s population was Muslim, the average guess was 17 percent. In reality, around 460,000 Muslims live in Sweden, or 4.6 percent of the total population.”
In 2016, i.e. after the big influx, the percentages were Germany: 6.1%, Austria: 6.9%, UK: 6.3%; France: 8.8%.
I really do have to wonder how a person of goodwill turns a percentage of 4.6 into 21. This kind of malignant nonsense is what fuels fearmongering.
“What do you do when that number is doubled?”
Even in Germany the number of migrants in 2015/16 was exceptional – and primarily due to the destabilisation of the middle east, for which the US and the UK (but not Germany) were initially responsible.
The Pew Forum estimates (medium-range projection – medium migration rates) 11.2% for Europe as a whole by 2050.
http://www.pewforum.org/2017/11/29/europes-growing-muslim-population/
” Why do we need to be in such a situation in the first place?”
In France’s case, and in the UK’s case, colonisation. Nobody asked either country to invade theirs, use their resources, treat them like shit and teach them English/French. When you do that you create a debt – and a magnet.
Alba/Danny,
Sorry, but I can only disagree. Dig up one post of Janos’ where he professes hatred for Jews or minorities, and I will reconsider. He is judgmental, as are we all, but we do not necessarily hate those we judge. He may show contempt in some of his writings, but contempt is not hatred.
He may fear and loath the issue of minorities being forced onto cultures at risk, he may question Jews of their primary loyalties, he may condemn various religions for their apostasy…but none of this is hatred.
I do not need to carry Janos’ water. He is perfectly capable of defending himself of wild and outlandish charges and suppositions…he, like Janet, is a contrarian…only difference is that Janos is mostly sincere and usually correct in his realpolitik.
“Sorry, but I can only disagree. Dig up one post of Janos’ where he professes hatred for Jews or minorities, and I will reconsider.” – e
I will defer to GreenAlba, as she is more tolerant of fools (and dopes).
Personally, I would rather eat my own vomit than reread Janos’ posts.
“Personally, I would rather eat my own vomit than reread Janos’ posts.
D,
Fair enough, but a preference is not probative.
elysianfield
If you insist on ‘contempt’ I’ll settle for ‘contempt. I’m not sure why you consider that better, but if it pleases you, I’ll go with that.
elysianfield,
Why, are you trying the guy?
I don’t need to be “probative”.
@GreenAlba
The same questions remain,..
What number is excessive? What do you do when that number is exceeded? What do you do when that number is doubled? How do you reverse such a situation? Why do we need to be in such a bind in the first place?
Anyhow, my contention is, even one is too many.
There’s no reason for a single Muslim to be in Europe or anywhere else outside Arabia 1] until the concept of Dar al-Islam is repudiated and abolished 2] until discrimination against, persecution and mass murder of non-Muslims in majority Muslim countries is repudiated and ended 3] until Muslims publicly profess that all peoples are equal before God and publicly repudiate their ambitions of world conquest and domination in the name of Allah and their history thereof.
In other words, until Muslims and Muslim culture change and change drastically, there’s no reason to allow them anywhere. By letting them in you are inviting venomous snakes into the home and venomous snakes will eventually do what venomous snakes do. To me, there’s very little to differentiate Muslims from Nazis or Commies or any other repugnant cadres of a coercive expansionist ideology, Christian zealots included.
Visualize Danny eating his own vomit every time he responds to one of my posts. I like to think of him as Alfred P Neuman of Mad Magazine. The red haired Jew is the worst Jew. And the Jewish redhead is the worst redhead
@GreenAlba
Muslim population to TRIPLE in some EU countries by 2050 | Express.co.uk
— https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/886498/europe-news-muslim-population-triple-2050-eu-pew-report
Looks like they’re using your Pew Research numbers. Anyway, how is 30 million Jew-hating Islamo-nazis who will probably be in control of major political parties a good thing? Just look at Corbyn’s Labour. Who do you think voted for that shithead?
“Visualize Danny… The red haired Jew is the worst Jew. And the Jewish redhead is the worst redhead”
Janos,all that strokin’ over nazi literature has destroyed your brain. Now EVERYTHING that you think is wrong. My coloring is just-the-opposite.
Even a clock is correct twice a day, but Janos…
…NEVER.
“If you insist on ‘contempt’ I’ll settle for ‘contempt. I’m not sure why you consider that better, but if it pleases you, I’ll go with that.” GreenAlba
THIS IS WHERE TRUTH GOES TO DIE.
but I won’t let it.
elysianfield, since GreenAlba also can’t stand the idea of reading Janos’ comments, and I have informed you of how repulsive I find Janos’ comments to be, and apparently everyone else feels similarly, or they’d volunteer for your task, I propose that IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH OF JANOS, there is an easier way. Use technology. Merely use the “Search” function that Kunstler provides on the Homepage exactly for this purpose. You can Search on his racist words or phrases. You will find the TRUTH OF HIS HATRED.
Janos is CONSUMED with hatred. It has diminished his faculties, a demonstration of which he provides daily.
“If you insist on ‘contempt’ I’ll settle for ‘contempt. I’m not sure why you consider that better,
Alba,
I am surprised at your comment. Contempt does not involve hate, but rather a cognitive dismissal, or a view of repugnance. I spent years in the Ghetto, and have seen every form of degradation and degeneracy…I have contempt for the Ghetto culture, I find it repugnant on many levels…I met many who I would not care to associate with but I do not hate those who embrace that culture.
Hate, on the other hand, is unreasoning wishing of ill on another, and the accompanying schadenfreude when the ill occurs. I do have some hatred, but I know the difference between that and contempt.
I have extreme contempt for the young Hogg, for example, but I hate his handlers. I have great contempt for the bought and paid for legislators who keep Poker off the Internet, but I hate Sheldon Addleson for his purchases.
elysianfield
I don’t have time to read through months of Janos’ posts, nor do I wish to. Perhaps if I did I would find the evidence you require.
In the meantime I don’t think hatred is defined by any lack of reasoning. I hate Nazism. My hatred of it is not unreasoning.
do you publish books?
“And how many will you be inviting into your home?” –Michael
Immigrants from Central America work harder than native-born citizens. They start their own businesses doing work that citizens don’t want to do. They earn money. They pay taxes. They pay their own way, just like the Irish, Polish, English, German, and Chinese immigrants before them did.
Nobody has to “invite” them into their home. They have their own families to raise. They want their own homes… and eventually they get them. They create jobs for others, for citizens. The son of an immigrant from Syria now employs 123,000 American citizens. What if that Syrian immigrant had been stopped at the border by the military?
It’s called the American dream and it has worked for millions and will continue to do so. Trump cannot kill the American dream. Trump cannot stop immigrants by sending the military to the border.
Not American dream, pipe dream. The overwhelming of the illegals will bring down what is left of this country much to the glee of our two main enemies. Note that China and Russia are not allowing many illegals into their lands. Smart! Japan, too.
If Trump cannot stop this incursion with the military, our national integrity is over. It is an arrow aimed at the heart of the US. Mexico may get its revenge after all. And of course, our Liberal contingent would like nothing better.
Seriously there Janet; remember what Saint George Carlin definitively said about the issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsL6mKxtOlQ
‘Nuff said.
“It’s called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.”
Yep.
As you all know, the March began with Putin’s address to the Federal Assembly, in which Putin described Russia’s decisive military advantage, which it acquired in recent years.
Unlike the Russian liberals, the Western Black Project reacted with seriousness to Putin’s words and immediately tried to unite the Reds of Anglo-Saxon civilizations personified in this anti-Russian alliance by Boris Johnson and the Blacks personified by Theresa May.
This is evident from the fact that Boris Johnson supported Brexit, and Theresa May opposed to Brexit, and after becoming Prime Minister sabotaged it. And here is the case of the Skripals, and now they run in the same harness, trying to overthrow Putin, who has completely gone off the reservation with his address to the Federal Assembly.
It is important to understand that the case of the Skripals is an attempt to unite in the anti-Russian outburst the Western world, which was split as a result of Brexit and the elections in the US, which Trump won.
But if Brexit is “treatable” by the union of Boris and Theresa, then it is impossible to say about elections in the US. And Trump refused to support Boris and Theresa in their crusade, until the rest of Europe joined them, which shows Trump’s attitude to Russia – he sympathizes with Orthodoxy and Putin until the united West does not stand against them, and gives way to anti-Christian pressure if his sympathies can lead to the loss of the White House.
Moreover, he doubted even then, but the Clintonoids came to him with real, not fake, evidence of espionage of Russians in Seattle, which they reserved specifically for this case.
But these efforts are not enough to change the results of the elections in Russia, and here arsonists in Kemerovo and not only in Kemerovo come to the aid of the unifiers of the West. The connection with Putin’s election is obvious: Putin has repeatedly demanded to rid the small business of extortion checks and inspections and that’s the result.
Almost all those who recently registered shopping centers as a small business can be arrested on charges of high treason.
But this is not enough to radically change the situation, and specially prepared pranksters and the second marker of the Black Project, known since the time of the Second Crusade – attitude to the Jews and Blood Libel, come into play.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel
Arson in Kemerovo coincided on time for Jewish Passover, and the “lost children”, all of whom are said to be thanks to the pranksters from Ukraine, naturally turn out to be either meat in secret morgues and refrigerators or a prepared source of blood for matzos sitting in the basement of the nearest synagogue.
If there were many such arson attacks and pogroms would raged across the country, then at least the West would be united against the new Hitler and Russian Orthodox Nazism, and as much as possible would seriously destabilize the situation in Russia right up to the supply of javelins to the rebels of Kuzbass.
Thanks God it didn’t happen.
“This is evident from the fact that Boris Johnson supported Brexit, and Theresa May opposed to Brexit, and after becoming Prime Minister sabotaged it.”
A mere two days before he came out supporting Brexit, Boris Johnson – a more self-serving opportunist it would be hard to come across – wrote an article for The Telegraph, arguing for Remain. He didn’t publish it, having made a last-minute decision that backing Brexit (which he didn’t remotely think would win) would make him a bit of a maverick hero in the event of a Remain win, and a strong candidate for the Tory leadership. Boris lies a lot – he’s been sacked for it twice.
As for Theresa, I’d go along with what the author of this article says:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/03/i-see-no-sign-that-this-politics-of-devotion-is-doing-us-any-good
“Given how much is at stake, it is reasonable to expect Theresa May to sound confident that Brexit is the best available path for the country, but she cannot. She says instead that it is the only path, of which the best must be made.”
“A more devious politician would simply pretend to be more enthusiastic. But May is no actor. She is a devout Christian, a clergyman’s daughter, which helps explain, I think, her ability to sustain total devotion to a plan, regardless of its material impact on the country. She finds comfort in submission to duty on a plane above the grubby temporal realm of economics and trade.”
I don’t agree with her politics, but I don’t believe she’s remotely aiming to sabotage Brexit. Brexit is sabotaging itself and the British economy, and the elitist toffs who led the campaign don’t care because they’ll do fine, thank you very much. They’re not the ones who’ll be forced to go to food banks when they lose their jobs.
Poor Theresa is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Her fault, obviously – no-one forced her to take the poisoned chalice. That was tawdry ambition. Even vicar’s daughters aren’t immune to that.
*vicars’ daughters*
“Her fault, obviously – no-one forced her to take the poisoned chalice. That was tawdry ambition.” – GreenAlba
same here with The Don
Ted Heath [former British PM] would have been questioned over abuse claims, police say
Investigators say former PM would have been interviewed about claims he sexually abused children if he were still alive.
A police report has said there was reason to suspect that Sir Edward Heath, Britain’s seventh postwar prime minister, carried out a string of sex attacks over a span of decades.
The report concludes that the allegations, including the rape of a male child sex worker aged 11 and sexual assault against four other children and two adults, would have met the legal threshold for police to interview Heath under criminal caution had he still been alive.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/05/ted-heath-would-have-been-questioned-over-seven-abuse-claims-police-say
Having a syrias management problem, aren’t we?
Sorry, Finca, I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make.
The point is that a lot of Russian citizens now believe that British intelligence organized arson in Kemerovo, burning several dozen Russian kids alive, to arrange anti-Putin protests.
Finca, a lot of people believe a lot of things on a lot of websites. You pretty much just have to let them get on with it, because there is simply no limit to what people will choose to believe. If you’re asking me to believe the British secret services murdered a lot of Russian children, I’m sorry I can’t oblige. Other people can choose their own story, since that seems to be the way these things work.
And the Heath article is six months old. So I’m still not sure what point you’re trying to make. I know there were accusations. Then there were refutations. Then there were residual accusations again. I don’t know what the truth is – why would I? The difficulty many people seem to have is in accepting that they couldn’t possibly know either.
You haven’t mentioned that the experts at Porton Down have said they’ve identified the Skripal poison but can’t point to where it came from, although it must have been a state-level intervention. So that strongly suggests they’re not in cahoots with the government or the intelligence agencies.
Like the PD experts, we don’t know what other evidence the UK government claims to have to pin the thing on Russia. Nor do we have any proof it wasn’t Russia. Or the UK. Or the US. So I’ll just hold my fire until I actually know something, which may well be never. I find the modesty of uncertainty is the way to go with my opinions on these matters.
Perhaps if Anna Politkovskaya hadn’t been murdered (in her own country) she could have contributed her tuppence-worth as well. Maybe MI5 did that too 🙂 .
I hope you watched the Panorama programme I gave you the link to. It was salutary. Especially the bit where they filmed the Russian bods destroying the makeshift shrine to Boris Nemtsov, then the Russian police accused the British reporter of doing it, even though the whole thing was on film. Then there was a dozy Russian film crew waiting for them by magic when they came out of the police station.
You keep your rose-tinted specs, though, FInca – they must be very comforting.
Mountain Finc, if the gov mafia in Russia had placed any value on human life, this nonsense would never had happened. The simple fact is that Russians are solely to blame for this catastrophe because they continue to put up with their gov mafia and culture of corruption.
I think for once we agree, akmofo.
I don’t credit any government, British, Russian or American, with deliberately killing children for political capital.
I suspect it was a mixture of criminal negligence and incompetence. A friend of a friend related a similar story (but without the tragic ending) about a visit to the Bolshoi, where, once the audience were in, almost all the staff upped sticks and went home, leaving all the exit doors locked except one, with the result that it took half an hour to get everyone out. I don’t know when it was.
But when conspiracy is in the air, what do you do?
Hey Green Alba eager to get back underneath the EU commissars and its 30,000 toadies, little commissars, factotums, and parasites in Brussels who desire to run your life down to what kind of toilet paper you can use?
Im curious what do you think will win out in Europe in the long run, the Caliphate out of Paris with its shariah law, or the EU commissars in Brussels, riding around in 60 ft long Mercedes Benzs and flying down to Monaco every weekend.
My money is on the caliphate.
brh
You can put your money where you like, brh. But since you are into interpreting the facial expressions of people you can’t see, I’d advise being sceptical about your own judgement.
Interestingly, those who claim that the EU in some way ‘runs their life’ can never give you an actual example of something the EU has ever stopped them doing or forced them to do.
Junior doctors are maybe the exception. EU directives ‘forced’ them not to work 100-hour weeks and endanger patient safely.
And EU directives ‘forced’ us all to have clean beaches instead of beaches with unpleasant microbial life on them that made people sick. B*astards, I say.
*patient safety*
oops… B*stards.
i might add not only flying around in 777s and riding in style in huge limos, but at the same time scolding us in the US about climate change and global warming.
that’s the beauty of it.
brh
No, that’s just hypocrisy and lack of insight, brh, a bit like pretending you care about the Irish in their enchanted isle. The mistake you make is in thinking I admire people like Juncker and am unaware of the gravy train. Nigel Farage made great use of it himself and the British people will be paying his pension till he dies even though he and his cronies didn’t even do their job for the British people while they were in the European Parliament (you do realise there’s a parliament where representatives from all the countries…you know…vote).
The fact remains that, on balance, the British people are better off within the EU and that, in terms of climate change, it makes no sense whatsoever to increase your business dealings on the other side of the world when you have a massive market on your doorstep.
Perhaps you should start your outrage fest on your own doorstep with your president’s unending trips to Mar-a-lago, which you are paying for and where he said he would be too busy working for you to have time to play golf.
We need to get Davis Hogg on that shooting out in San Bruno at YT
The stated goal beside recinding the 2nd amendment and removing 300 million firearms in the US is to expunge violence and re engineer humanity so aggression is eliminated.
Hogg has a mighty full plate. He can start with the lady who shot up Youtube.
brh
That Hogg is a vile character, aint he? Young but early…
Yes, classic young Communist Cadre type – the kind that orders Red Guards to do what Red Guards do. The Elite see him as the one who can fulfill Bill Ayers dream of 20 million White Americans sent to the Gulag, never to return.
How many did your Hero Hitler send never to return?
Far less than six million as experts now agree among themselves. And of course those were mostly due to disease with the people in a weakened state after the allies bombed the railway lines leading the Camps.
The six million figure is untouchable in the popular press of course. And people are imprisoned in Europe for doubting it such holy writ. Needless to say, all of this has nothing to do with the facts anymore. And the physical evidence is entirely lacking as in, Where are the huge mountains of ash, etc.
Remember the “Free World”? Ask the enslaved people of Europe about that.
I think you have strayed into the territory of Holocaust denial, here Janos. Take care.
The figure is higher than 6 million Jews. There were many in the Ukraine other Soviet satellites that were murdered and never counted. But I talking about the Germans and others of the Master Race your Hero Hitler sent to Russia and Africa never to return.
We’ve got a block watcher here. The Global Village will be hell on Earth with a camera on every street corner and in every room of your house, if you’re lucky enough to still have one.
strokin’ again Janos?
leave that thing alone,
as you’re already blind.
Unfortunately my theory of the Western Colored Projects becomes applied, because without it is impossible to understand what is happening today.
In particular, the case of the Skripals without it turns into personal Theresa and Boris’s schizophrenia, to which the whole West has subscribed, which, given the nearness of the spring aggravation with the decisive elections in Russia, is ridiculous and antihistorical.
Meanwhile, if we connect the case of the Skripals with a fire in Kemerovo and impose on it the stencil of the theory of Western Colored Projects, events acquire a rational basis and their development can be understood and predicted.
“If Trump cannot stop this incursion with the military, our national integrity is over.” –John AZ
Syriasly, please dial down the rhetoric. It is not supported by the historical evidence. We have always had illegal immigration… and we have never stopped being a country. Secure borders do not a country make. Most CFNers think we had a country in the 1950s.
In the 1950s and in the decades before the 1950s we were a country… and millions of immigrants were coming in. That did not stop us from being a country. Enforcement didn’t end unlawful immigration in the 1950s and it won’t today. Send the whole damn military, special forces, SEALs, Delta Force, etc. to the border. It will not do any good.
In the 1930s, 1940s and in subsequent years reports show the same steady increase in the number of illegal immigrants and enforcement actions. The volume of unauthorized Mexican immigrants in 1950-51 was so high that the INS institutionalized a voluntary departure procedure that was quicker and cheaper. Nothing worked. Operation Wetback in the 1950s did not work. We have 30 million undocumented immigrants and more are coming. Nothing can stop people from different races, different cultures, different religions, different nations of origin, from becoming part of our nation. E Pluribus Unum.
Trump went bat-shit crazy this weekend over immigration. Catalyst was a Sunday video on NY Times with Ann Coulter. She tore Trump a new one; said if he failed to keep his singular promise to build a wall that rage in the right wing base, directed at him, would be fearsome.
Trump is afraid of the GOP’s racist base he pandered to by promising to build a wall. That base is angry and impatient with Trump for not even getting funding for the wall. Things came to a head Sunday when Ann Coulter revved up the base and aimed it at Trump.
This latest crap-storm of tweets reeks of Stephen Miller who is a lunatic on immigration. Miller was with Trump this weekend along with fellow hard-liner Sean Hannity. They had Trump’s ear mostly to themselves as Spanky’s handlers were not present.
Without his handlers to calm him down, Miller and Hannity spurred on Trump, right off the deep end on DACA and immigration. Here’s a link to the NY Times interview of Coulter:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/30/opinion/ann-coulter-trump-former-trumpers.html
Coulter is nuts saying anything to suck ratings and money out of the right wing rubes. Trump takes his cues from her, Hannity, Fox, etc.
That’s the background for the blizzard of immigration activity this week.
GOP pols will never admit they want the border porous as their corporate backers love that low cost, non-union labor to fatten their profits and make it easy to fire people for any excuse without facing any court actions for discrimination or sexual abuse. That’s why this issue will never be fixed despite all sorts of lip service (same as abortion). If these issues get resolved they’ll have no issues left to frighten their base of voters and milk them for money and votes.
Trump may actually mean business on immigration but if so why did he accept the spending bill with no money for the wall? He’s interested now only because Ann Coulter essentially sic’d the GOP base on him and he’s running scared of that lynch mob.
IIRC both Obama and Bush sent troops to the border at times. Seems a good training exercise for rotating numerous MP units to that area to keep their skills sharp.
Thank God for Ann Coulter, keeping his feet to the fire. If the Caravan of Doom isn’t stopped, America is finished for all intents and purposes. We’ll become just another miserable failed Latin American state. Remember, these wretched campesinos think very highly of themselves. Thus they will create exactly the conditions they are fleeing from. They want the White Man’s Civilization without the White Man. It cannot be.
Actually this Last Chance Armada has a list of ‘Demands’ they plan on presenting to the government of the United States.
One demand is they be let into the country, as they say is their right. I’m not sure if they’re demanding access to the golden EBT card or not.
brh
Yeah about Ann Coulter ummm…
Wow, she can sling that hair, can’t she? I think she needs to leave Trump alone. A woman has no business telling a man what to do. Ann should shut up and try to find a husband.
Tate, the 1940s called and are asking where you’ve got to.
Not that I’m defending the Coulter monster in general.
Haha, you slipped up and defended her alright. You can’t have it both ways, some of the indians are going to jump the reservation.
I didn’t slip up at all, Tate. If you worked for akmofo, he’d sack you for inattention to detail 🙂 . (Thankfully I work freelance and am valued, so the work comes to me, rather than the other way round.)
Anne Coulter is an abomination. I do not defend her views although I defend her right to hold them.
If you can’t see the difference between that and drivel about her needing to ‘shut up and try to find a husband’ then you have a problem.
Her sex is an entirely different matter from her repulsive views. Likewise the Hopkins creature that I do wish you’d take off our hands. She would be so much more at home over your way – anybody who is too vile even for the Mail Online not to sack is in the wrong country.
Neither of those two fine ladies is as you describe them, but merely confused as to proper role of women in society. But it’s understandable and entirely forgivable.
Tate,
Don’t like women musc?
And living in an unfriendly place.
I got the profile.
No, I like women’s musk, it’s very nice.
“Neither of those two fine ladies is as you describe them, but merely confused as to proper role of women in society.”
I’ve never understood why you, brh and Janos are so worried about the Caliphate you think is coming. You’d all fit right in perfectly.
I, on the other hand, would take that high window whichever of you was in power – you’re just a slightly different flavour of religious fundamentalism and opportunistic social backwardness.
Metaphorically at least – in reality I’d try to find a less traumatic way of making my exit. But make my exit I would, in either case. There’s a difference between survival and life, and survival in ‘Gilead’ is not life for those of us used to life.
Alba, I don’t have time to respond at length to this but let me just say that you and other women like you will embrace the restoration of the patriarchy with open arms when the time comes.
The restoration of the patriarchy is not wishful-thinking; it is a necessity if our society and its thousands of years of tradition is to survive.
“Gilead” is a feminist bugbear (and you say we on the right are motivated by fear, lol.)
I will expand on the disaster that is feminism in later posts.
There are many reasons to resist “the Caliphate” as you call it. Firstly, it is not Christian, it seeks to conquer by the sword or any other means at hand, not appealing to our better natures & free will but to fear & power; secondly, it is polygamous, whereas the west has been monogamous right back to ancient Rome (even the emperors were monogamous.); thirdly, even to this day, actual human chattel slavery is a common practice among its adherents (although that is hidden from view because its practitioners are well aware of Western disapproval.) And finally, it is intensely tribal. Universal Western values of fair-dealing, freedom of conscience, the dignity of the individual, etc. are alien to this culture. So no, I have no wish to live under a “Caliphate”, as it strikes against basic human decency.
The western tradition has always respected the role of women, though you seem to want to discount this.
You’re not going to jump out of a high tower, or use any other means to off yourself so quit with the drama. Under the patriarchy, you would be valued and respected as a woman, not as a desexed “person,” and you would have equal rights with men, both property and voting rights.
But the 1940s was a pretty good decade in terms of a proper respect for the complementary nature of the sexes. The restoration of the patriarchy is a sea-change in thought; it is a broad rejection of 2nd wave and 3rd wave feminism. Or at least, that’s my idea of it.
Tate
Firstly, my suggestion that you’d be happy in the Caliphate was slightly tongue in cheek, as I’d have thought you’d realise. I don’t really believe that’s what you’re after.
However, Janos has very specifically said that he wants a society where women have no political representation. He doesn’t want men who are not as clever as other men to have political representation either, but for women, they can be as intelligent as they like, they are not to have political representation. Perhaps they are to be spared taxation as compensation, since one is held to be unacceptable without the other – he didn’t say.
The west is ‘officially’ monogamous. It is not monogamous in reality. Donald Trump is an example of a patriarchally minded man (not in all ways, he is happy for his daughter to run a business, but let’s not go too near the POTUS-FDOTUS relationship). He has had three wives and cheated on all of them. But I suppose it depends on your definition of monogamy.
He’s rich, of course, so the discarded wives are left with money, but for the mass of ordinary women in that situation, it’s not quite the same. So any woman who doesn’t educate herself and make herself able to take care of her children in a situation where her husband either leaves her, dies, or just becomes incapacitated and unable to work, through no fault of his own, is a very foolish woman. I don’t call that ‘feminism’, I call it common sense and personal responsibility.
And I don’t call being financially obliged to stay with a cheating husband compatible with ‘respect’ for women. So again, personal responsibility.
I don’t call myself ‘feminist’ of whatever wave. I’ve never needed to label myself. I take it for granted that I am not a secondary human being – but I recognise that there are women elsewhere in the world, who are also not secondary human beings but are not recognised as equal human beings. And I know that rights, even when won, have to be guarded or they may be lost.
““But the 1940s was a pretty good decade in terms of a proper respect for the complementary nature of the sexes.”
The 1940’s were when women in my country moved en masse into the industrial workforce, since the men were at war. My aunt worked (not by choice) in a munitions factory in Clydebank, which was for that reason (and the shipbuilding industry) heavily bombed. My mother, who was already organising the wages in a famous carpet factory in Glasgow, saw her place of work make parachutes instead. She’d been working there since the age of 14, in 1932. You seem to think to think there was a golden age when women didn’t have to work.
However, in the UK it took until 1970 for women to be paid, by law, the same wage for doing the same job as their male colleagues. Because in between times, the patriarchy…
Your initial point, which started this conversation was that two working women didn’t seem to know their place in society. It is not for anyone of either sex to tell another what their ‘place’ is based on their sex. For individual couples, they need to work out what works best for them and their family.
I’m lucky – I’m not married to someone whose self-image requires him to feel superior to his female colleagues, without whom the health service would fall apart. As it would without the huge number of first- and second-generation immigrant clinical staff who also work in it.
And ‘Gilead’ is a warning about theocracy, not just patriarchy.
Theocracy is never, ever good, whatever the religion. And it ALWAYS involves lies and hypocrisy, just as it did in the novel.
Its author confirmed that everything that happened in the novel had genuinely happened somewhere at some time. And since sensible people don’t live under the delusion that history is linear and things always get better, warnings are always worth bearing in mind. Not living in fear about, but bearing in mind.
Tate,
Your arguments conflict with this:
Tate
April 4, 2018 at 1:32 pm #
On Friday, April 6, a bombshell will hit American theaters: Chappaquidick.
dannyboy, explain please.
Tate, I need to apologize. I would normally reply to you, as you did make the effort to reply to me, but in this case I have spent the day traveling to and around Lancaster, PA.
Something about thinking about Kunstler’s work and his WMBH that got me to trip around Mennonites with buggies (and straw hats, bonnets, carpentry, husbandry, farming…)
dannyboy, no worries. Apology not necessary.
But thanks.
The whole caravan thing is a ruse. The basic fact regarding immigration on the southern border is that more undocumented Mexicans in the United States are leaving than entering, and this has been true for a decade.
The President is correct that Mexican cartels are responsible for the flow of some illegal drugs into the United States, but Americans also create the demand for those drugs.
Anyone who had any doubt about the President’s intent to rile public outrage only needed to consult his most concise tweet, which said “Getting more dangerous. ‘Caravans’ coming. Republicans must go to Nuclear Option to pass tough laws NOW. NO MORE DACA DEAL!”
The “caravans,” as Trump imagined them, were not entirely real. The situation at the border is not getting more dangerous. The crisis over DACA, which involved nearly 800,000 young people who signed up for the program, is Trump’s own creation. He canceled the program. He could make a deal immediately by reinstating it. Instead, he cruelly manipulates the plight of DACA recipients, keeping them and their families in limbo.
So?
Bull.
DACA was an executive order by Obama. An attempt to start the road to citizenship for a group of illegal people that had no control over their fate, they were brought here as children by illegal immigrant parents. Almost a million folks that basically have no country. The real stupidity here is the Congress that cannot devise a plan to handle the border situation, which is a real problem. So Obama, who had as much trouble with Congress as Trump, did his order and put the Dreamers into a more protected state of Limbo. The problem is still there. The original order has been under attack since it was written as being illegal. So along comes Trump, wishing to stabilize the border with a wall. He has the same problem as Obama, what to do with 80000 folks who legally do not exist as citizens. The cowardly legislators cannot make a decision even after GOP “controlled” the government. So Trump basically threw the ball into Congress’ court by rescinding Obama’s order, which he had every right to do. He gave the Congress six months to come up with a solution to the immigration dilemma. The most worthless organization in the world just cannot figure it out, that controlled immigration is necessary to stabilize its impact on the low end of the economy. Political division is still sabotaging the process. The last two administration have shown that electing extremists on both ends of the political spectrum will not solve any problems. I for one do not want to see the rest of the country turn into California, that is now bearing the brunt of the misguided policies of the Left relative to immigration. The Democrats may have bought control of a state’s voters but have turned the richest most economically progressive state into a s–thole. Recent local rebellions by counties in California may show that sanity still exists and maybe there is hope for California yet. Maybe you liberals will not get to add California to Venezuela on the dung heap yet.
Good comment. If we didn’t have such a feckless Congress, there could be a trade for a path to citizenship for the DACAs in exchange for end to birthright citizenship, end to chain migration & comprehensive E-verify.
The shooter at youtube was a Muslim women, might be hard to pin this outburst on the NRA. Needless to say you won’t hear much about it; probably be out of the news by thursday. No rallies, no marches, no anti gun speeches by Hollywood Libs, Richard Blumenthal, or Davis Hogg.
Nothing to see here. Move on.
brh
News reporting you may have missed:
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Woman-who-expressed-anger-at-YouTube-policies-12803675.php
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/youtube-shooting-san-bruno-california-hq-today-2018-04-03-live-updates/
“So?” –brh
brh, Trump wants to send the National Guard down to the border, but Trump is legally limited. If the directive comes from Trump, i.e., from the federal government, the guards legally can’t act as law enforcement. The Posse Comitatus Act forbids using the military in civilian law enforcement.
So, Trump has two options: have states send down their guards, which means states would have to foot the bill, or have guards on the border in non-law enforcement roles.
His tweet about sending the military to the border is nothing but hype, just like his “big, beautiful wall” that Mexico will pay for was hype that he conned people into believing. But neither Congress nor Mexico will to pay for any wall.
Its about time we defended our own borders.
1st time since 1916 when Pershing led the US Cavalry into Mexico after Pancho Villa raided the border city of Columbus, New Mexico.
brh
I’m all for that but times have changed. There’s a serious optics problem with sending in the military. It would be a disaster.
It would be way more effective to put the screws on the gov’t of Mexico to strangle the flow before it reaches the U.S. border. And that can be done very effectively using NAFTA as leverage.
The times have changed again – and that’s exactly what all decent, right thinking people want to see. Until we attain the state of “Who cares” and “We matter, they don’t”, we’re going to be susceptible to the media’s outrage porn, always focusing on “the kids”.
They carefully arranged “beach boy’s” body for maximum effect. There’s no middle ground. We triumph over the Liberals and save America or they triumph over us and send us to the Camps to fulfill Bill Ayer’s dream.
If you’re focused on “Hearts & Minds”, you’re on the wrong forum. It just comes off as trollish.
But hey, pot kettle. Guess I shouldn’t throw stones.
Yup, that’s why the Enemy usually wins: they’re better at propaganda. The winning of Hearts and Minds.
“It would be way more effective to put the screws on the gov’t of Mexico”
like they give a shit about what you think
Haha, dannyboy’s got a mean streak. But that’s no surprise, considering…
You shouldn’t drink, dannyboy.
Tate, name-calling is not Commenting.
You posited that: “I’m all for that but times have changed. There’s a serious optics problem with sending in the military. It would be a disaster.
It would be way more effective to put the screws on the gov’t of Mexico to strangle the flow before it reaches the U.S. border. And that can be done very effectively using NAFTA as leverage.”
WITH NO SUPPORTING EVIDENCE. You kinda’ lose the credibility of your argument when you cite NAFTA as the leverage to get an increasingly annoyed SOVEREIGN NATION to work against its own interests , while simultaneously disadvantaging that SOVEREIGN NATION under that Agreement.
So if name-calling is all you got, go call them a few names and maybe they’ll start building your wall.
“The Posse Comitatus Act forbids using the military in civilian law enforcement.
Janet,
The Posse Comitatus act was suspended in the 2010 appropriations bill…signed by Obama. There IS NO Posse Comitatus act.
“Trump’s tweets calling on Mexico to halt “caravans” followed a “Fox & Friends” report Sunday that featured the leader of the union representing border patrol agents predicting that those in the caravan would create havoc and chaos in the U.S. as they wait for immigration reform.
About 1,100 migrants, many from Honduras, have been marching along roadsides and train tracks in the southern Mexican state of Oaxaca.
These “Stations of the Cross” migrant caravans have been held in southern Mexico for at least the last five years. They began as short processions of migrants, some dressed in biblical garb and carrying crosses, as an Easter-season protest against attacks against Central Americans as they cross Mexico.
Individuals in the caravans often try to reach the U.S. border but usually not as part of the caravan. The caravans typically don’t proceed much farther north than the Gulf Coast state of Veracruz. The current march is scheduled to end this month with a conference on migration issues in the central Mexican state of Puebla.”
__https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/04/03/trump-wants-military-secure-border-mexico.html_
“The shooter… was a Muslim woman” –brh
No, brh, she was not a Muslim, she was a “Vegan Fitness Bodybuilder”
They don’t teach that at the mosque.
Janet, introducing facts to the delusioned is kinda’ quaint. Good luck with that!
>>>So Syria became a workshop study in population overshoot and resource scarcity — problems that are sure to spread around other regions of the world in the years ahead.<<<<<<<<
No kidding, Really in Years Ahead ???????
Get a clue – if the US was still building transcontinental infrastructure and pillaging other cultures do you think we would be fighting over green energy regs and foreign manual labor forces—–
https://www.amren.com/news/2018/04/dna-tests-for-iq-are-coming-but-it-might-not-be-smart-to-take-one/
The blank slate theory is completely debunked. Every day the Left’s world view seems more and more parochial and out of date.
amren “debunk{s}…the Left’s world view.”
Wowee.
Should we all now adopt amron’s worldview and become more like Janos?
You don’t need a high IQ to be trustworthy, honorable and have integrity…
This is why we have dogs and cats as pets.
My cat Suki, a Ragdoll breed, is very loyal. She waits patiently outside the closed door for me to awake in the morning and is eager to see me.
Of course there’s food involved.
Janos Skorenzy April 4, 2018 at 5:20 am #
Let us hope that the genetic marker for irrational fear will soon be identified. With that knowledge in hand we can set about insuring those in possession of said marker will have no opportunity to advance within society. More perversely we might insure that only those in possesion of said marker are allowed to advance.
Arrogance knows no bound.
No need for major breakthroughs in Genetics to “mark” the obvious.
I visit CFN occasionally to observe. Simple Behavioral Methods allow for the identification of Fear Consumed Individuals (“FCI”) This week they pass around current events like border invasions and youtube shooting. These are chosen because they are intimate to the FCI. On a deeper level, religious fears and fears of others (turned up high by identifying “others” as those with differences).
The FCI is easily manipulated, because they are certain of their cognition.
wm5135
They’re part way there already, albeit physiologically rather than through DNA markers.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201612/fear-and-anxiety-drive-conservatives-political-attitudes
“Fear and Anxiety Drive Conservatives’ Political Attitudes”
“1. Conservatives tend to focus on the negative”
“2. Conservatives have a stronger physiological response to threat”
“3. Conservatives fear new experiences”
“4. Conservatives’ brains are more reactive to fear”
“Now we see that empirical evidence tells us that conservatives and liberals don’t just have different outlooks and opinions. They also have different brains. This means that our choice of political affiliation and overall worldview may not really be all that much of a choice.
“Still, we must work to understand these psychological and biological distinctions so that we can ultimately use this knowledge to work better together and find middle ground. Such information may also make us less vulnerable to those who want to exploit these dispositions for their own selfish agendas, using tactics like fear mongering.”
In my case, I was very liberal in my 20’s, but when I matured in my 30’s, I became more conservative. Actually, that isn’t completely accurate because I’m not a conservative; I’m more anti-liberal, anti-socialistic (mostly).
My point being, that at least in my case – and I’m the only individual I’ve ever closely monitored – I changed my outlook through observation rather than because of mental wiring.
” I changed my outlook through observation rather than because of mental wiring.”
Bill,
It’s called…Wisdom.
Left brained folks seem to have a more logical, ordered, black and white vision of life and Right brained folks a more artistic emotional view. That would be a definite effect of DNA. However, environmental effects start at birth and continue through life. Scott and Mark Kelly’s experiment is fascinating. Genetic changes happened to Scott during his sojourn into space. So environment can modify the genetic expression. Sorta helps along the theory of evolution than DNA may be modifiable within a single generation.
Back to subject at hand. An undeniable fact is that folks who are starting out, youth, immigrants for example, have nothing to lose and want money and stuff. They will back anyone that promises them that they will give them stuff. However, once they find their stuff through work, they want to protect what they have. Thus conservatives are created. So as life progresses, the trend is conservative as people progress materially. So, liberals need to be constantly created at the economic starting points. Democrats work to create New Democrats at the border and the education system. If the border is controlled with a wall, this source of new voters is cut off. The Democrats will fight this to the death, because it will be their death.
“They will back anyone that promises them that they will give them stuff. However, once they find their stuff through work, they want to protect what they have. Thus conservatives are created.”
There are exceptions. I read lots of people (not on this site) who have become more left wing as they’ve got older because of what they’ve observed throughout their lives, unrelated to their own good or bad fortune.
I vote for the party I think will encourage the society I consider most just, not the one I think is going to benefit me. The one I’ve never voted for might benefit me more.
And my brothers, who are near to my age, are the same, albeit better off than me 🙂 .
“There are exceptions. I read lots of people (not on this site) who have become more left wing as they’ve got older because of what they’ve observed throughout their lives, unrelated to their own good or bad fortune.”
my friends
“I vote for the party I think will encourage the society I consider most just, not the one I think is going to benefit me. The one I’ve never voted for might benefit me more.”
Again I ask what you hope to get changed here? I have found that most threads die. The exceptions are few and far between, if you eliminate “echo chamber” discussions and shout downs/name calling/pile-ons.
Yes, Liberals have almost no amygdala at all. The Men are basically 2nd class Women and the Women take up the slack to become 3rd class Men, who have the foibles of men but not their virtues.
The Men, such as they are, are still bigger than you and will elbow you out of the way to get a seat in the lifeboat. Giving up seats for women a la the Titanic was a Conservative thing. The Women refused to go back and help the men though. That’s a classic female thing too. Would modern women be any better? Wouldn’t bet on it.
popular with the gals Janos?
think not
I’m used to giving up my seat for the old, Janos (male and female). When the time comes I’ll give it up for the young.
Who will you give yours up for?
“Giving up seats for women a la the Titanic was a Conservative thing.”
As was leaving the steerage passengers to drown.
It’s hard I know. But genetics predetermines much of human life. The Traditionalists were right and everyone else was wrong. Just as the Old South was right about Blacks, and Liberals and their “conservative” camp followers were wrong.
Brain scans can show psychopathology now too. What say we make politicians and corporate executives take one as a matter of public record?
“Brain scans can show psychopathology now too. What say we make politicians and corporate executives take one as a matter of public record?” — Janos
That’s one futuristic idea I can embrace wholeheartedly.
eugenics is not ” one futuristic idea”
but you may be the one
whose genes support it.
dannyboy you realize you’re in the down-market part of the comments section, right?
I thought you went around bragging about being a rich Manhattanite or sumpn. Why don’t you stick to the top-tier dannyboy where Mr. K can police your bad behavior.
Tate, thought I’d go slumming with a lowlife. Got all I need from the expedition. As expected, nothing to see here.
P.S. Per Kunstler, leave him out of talk between you and me. I am currently reading a pre-release of his next book that he sent me.
” I am currently reading a pre-release of his next book that he sent me.”
Oh yeah? …Well, I’m not, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night….
“Oh yeah? …Well, I’m not, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night….” – elysianfield
e,
You got some life there!
Try initiative
But imagine the chaos. A new rule will mandate all govt officials, (major CEOs?) and members of the congress and heads of organizations like the FDA and EPA get the test. Suddenly, 70% of all these jobs will be vacant.
I agree with JHK, that the Syria-Iraq conflagration is one that the Big Thinkers have no handle on.
What it looks like from my own window is a multi-factional power struggle, some of which are accepting arms and sustenance from local powers like the Saudis and Iranians, some of which are accepting the same from powers further afield like the USA and Russia, but ALL of which have their own aims and ambitions.
And as sure as we sit here, whatever faction comes out on top will cast off their benefactors’ terms and conditions as soon as they can do it without getting their heads knocked off.
What does Russia want? From the looks of it they want a place for military installations in Syria. Why do they want this? Who knows, but to me this is a place not worth being in.
From my angle Russia’s trajectory is to become a tributary state to China with Russian leaders having to make trips to Beijing to bend their knee. And it’s going to take an almighty effort to avoid this fate.
If I were Putin’s advisor I would tell him get the hell out of Syria (and the Ukraine), do it now, conserve your national resources and bend all your energies into re-building Russia from the inside and not from the outside.
Russia’s aggressive posturings look to me like 1930’s Italy and Hungary and Romania, pre-industrial backwaters without the ability to build the requisite air and naval power to sustain a prolonged struggle. Likewise Russia, a country of 145 million with HALF the GDP of California (population 39 million), ruined by alcohol, sloth, corruption and a caste of predatory oligarchs and state bureaucrats.
Russia SHOULD be the world’s richest and by far the world’s leading power given its natural advantages of a patriotic, self-sacrificing people, gigantic land and natural resources including farmland. But it isn’t, not by a long shot. Like the aforementioned 1930’s pip-squeaks, Russia may look pretty decent on paper at least militarily, but it’s pathetic, a strutting midget, nothing more.
Even so, Russia is full to the brim with tough guys. Russians like tough guys and formerly persecuted tough guys like the Cossacks are back in favor. And Russians get a rush from Putin’s tough-guy muscle flexing. But given Russia’s lousy condition, this is Mussolini all over again, and if Putin over-reaches the way that Mussolini did, I give it good odds that he ends up like il Duce.
Petite bourgeoisie talk. Always think money.
Putin is doing it right this time – first think security and under formidable nuclear umbrella develop the economy and improve social conditions.
Since the times of the Fourth Crusade Rusia lived under a constant threat of Western Barbarian ideological, economic and direct military intervention.
Have to agree with the Finc here. Russia is bold enough to walk an entirely new path. China is merely attempting to follow in the US’ footsteps as the prospective new Global capitalist hegemon. Ain’t gonna work for them at all.
Putin’s and Russia’s main challenge now is to set up a worthy line of succession that will keep their progress moving forward after he’s gone. The US’ and China’s main challenge is to avoid imploding catastrophically, something the US is on the verge of as we speak. China’s will come later, but it will come too. Their house being built on the quicksand of western-style crony capitalism.
I think you are right about crony capitalism. Someone once said that the worst enemy of democracy and freedom is when the people discover they hold the purse strings. The corruption that follows destroys societies. Maybe that is why Davos and the attempted global coup by the Left is so repugnant to nationalists, making the corruption pie bigger just hastens its demise.
Maybe a good subject for future discussions could be to derive a better system than crony capitalism. The USSR, Venezuela and California show that government control and socialism is not the answer. What to do?
What to do? Downsize to City-state. It seems to be only size at which government works.
Akmofo
Localization. City-state. The Long Emergency talks about localization being the answer to the loss of entropy in the social order. To big to fail entities get divvied up to make economic losses less impactful. Would a city state be a US state for example, or more toward the economic division where megopolises would be the division. A lot of the reasons that the States were created, water boundaries, surveying rules for example, are no longer pertinent. WMBH says that the localization will go really small as agricultural divisions will prevail again. Should be interesting.
The two spheres cannot be separated. And businessmen cannot be trusted. That leaves one option: Fascism or National Socialism, where the Government directs and regulated Big Business for the good of the Nation.
Sure there are dangers. This is Planet Earth after all and human beings. But this system has a chance of working. Letting Capitalists control the Government (Plutocracy) as in the West is an unmitigated disaster. And btw, China is not likely to go down that road despite their alliance with us.
“What to do?”
start by learning what “Left” means.
“Would a city state be a US state for example, or more toward the economic division where megopolises would be the division.”
I’m hoping nyc floats a merger proposal to Vermont. I love the Green Mountains. Also they embrace us there.
” Also they embrace us there.”
D,
No, they embrace your money. Your cat embraces your food. Stop feeding the cat and see how long the “embrace”.
elysianfield,
When you wrote “No, they embrace your money. Your cat embraces your food. Stop feeding the cat and see how long the “embrace”.” you showed exactly what kind of person you are.
Demeaning human relations and affections, AND DOING THE SAME FOR A SWEET CAT is really who you are.
No friends, no pets I have to assume.
“attempted global coup by the Left” – John AZ
You thinkin’ Communists!
The problem is Russia’s location latitude wise. It is ice bound in the winter with really only one ice free port in the Crimea. Their access to the world is through the Black Sea and the Bosphorus. They will never give up Sevastopol for their navy. Maybe the idea with Syria is to have naval bases on the Mediterranean. And maybe to influence the availability, thus price of oil. The Russia, Iran connection is there too, as Iran’s forward guard with Israel is Hezbollah.
“What does Russia want? From the looks of it they want a place for military installations in Syria. Why do they want this? Who knows, but to me this is a place not worth being in.”— volodya
One word: pipelines.
“Russia SHOULD be the world’s richest and by far the world’s leading power given its natural advantages of a… gigantic land and natural resources including farmland.”
For an alternative view of the Russian landform as opposed to say the US, see thwack’s link above to Peter Zeihan talk.
“From my angle Russia’s trajectory is to become a tributary state to China…” –volodya
Exactly. Russia is a small, weak, junior varsity player, a regional power ruled by a dictator who has to poison dissenters and imprison little girls who sing songs he doesn’t like. IOW, a weak leader.
China is a world economic superpower that can drive the USA into bankruptcy… if Trump wants to continue his trade war with China. The U.S. debt to China is $1.17 trillion as of January 2018. Who’s your daddy, Trump? The answer is China.
Today the DOW dropped another 500 points as China announced new trade tariffs. If Trump fires back, expect China to continue until the USA goes bankrupt. China owns the USA.
Trump’s aggressiveness with China is ultimately hurting both the 1% and the deplorables in flyover country who voted for him. Trump is losing both Wall Street and the pig farmers. Bye bye 2020.
“If protecting US intellectual property is the ultimate goal here, I’m not sure how destroying shareholder wealth, damaging CEO confidence and making the American farmer the main sacrificial lamb here after [six] years of pain on the farm is going to get us there,” Peter Boockvar, chief investment officer at Bleakley Advisory Group, wrote in a note Wednesday.
Requiem per un Agente Segreto
— https://youtu.be/pg8LR0z2lbE
On Friday, April 6, a bombshell will hit American theaters: Chappaquidick.
At last some justice for Mary Jo. But if America has to wait another fifty years for justice, it will be too late. I fear the Swimmer sunk us.
“On Friday, April 6, a bombshell will hit American theaters:”
You in Film Promotion?
Bling, merchandising, franchising, media interviews.
Movie Junkets and all that shit.
Wow you ARE an interesting guy!
@Janos,
Yes you’re right, there’s a small consolation however in knowing the Swimmer never got near the nuclear football. What a contrast to his older brother who was always cool under pressure.
Localization. City-state.
Don’t think so.
Third Rome, new Byzantium. Orthodox Christianity + Immortal Regiment
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/immortal-regiment-marches-through-streets-russia-n356561
?Veterans Parade, Haifa, Israel
— https://youtu.be/FHDILpLdfkY
John AZ, you make a very good point about Sevastopol. Always very nice to have that port. No country is totally self sufficient and all need the facility to export and import.
In any case I was thinking more about the mire in the eastern Ukraine when I said to get Russia the fuck out of there. Russia just doesn’t have the national treasure to piss away. There’s more important things than getting Putin favorable opinion polls.
But grabbing the Crimean peninsula was conquest done on the cheap. Would that all wars should go so smooth. I know the land-grab was popular in Russia and it boosted Putin politically. The only question is was it otherwise really necessary?
Tate, also a good point about pipelines. Is a pipeline in those environs a viable proposition? I know, there’s worse causes for fighting than that of natural resources, especially energy. But how do the Russians insert themselves and then maintain their grip? What’s it gonna cost the Russian treasury? This thing in Syria seems to be going on and on and on. They declared the war virtually over but it sure doesn’t smell that way to me.
In the end though I think Russia’s greatest threat comes from the far east. Russia is to China what Canada is to the US. The only country capable of making Russia a vassal state is China.
I know, Russia has nukes and nukes tend to be a pretty good guarantor. But China has an implacable patience. AND nukes.
But grabbing the Crimean peninsula was conquest done on the cheap.
You see? Money again. That’s why you’ll never be able to grasp what the fuck’s going on.
I have long noticed that on the Internet traffic through links and what you click on is determined by the Outworldly Spirits.
So it all depends on your state of mind, although there are constant factors and influences. And the last two posts plus the film, which appeared in the viewer by itself after watching “Yeltsin, Three Days in August”, made me understand what actually happened “with the Motherland and with us” 30 years ago.
First of all, in 1990, not only the Soviet Union collapsed, the whole world collapsed that was formed as a result of the Fourth Crusade, the Albigensian Crusade, and the Tatar-Mongol invasion. These three events occurred almost simultaneously, were interconnected by cause and effect, and in fact were the same War, World War, which changed the face of the world.
Prior to this, the world from a geopolitical point of view was a large chessboard on which fought Byzantium, the Holy Roman Empire, the Empire of the Vikings and the Caliphate.
Especially I want to note that from a geopolitical point of view, Britain, Scandinavia and Russia were part of the Viking Empire, and from a religious point of view, Britain and Scandinavia were part of the Irish, that is, Western Orthodoxy, and Russia part of the Byzantine Orthodoxy, that is, the Eastern Orthodoxy.
And Rome already had no relation to Orthodoxy and was a force aggressively anti-Orthodox. (and anti Christian?)
As a result of this war, a huge Eurasian empire was formed, which in 1990 was called the USSR, the Ottoman Empire and something now called the West.
And this West was originally divided geopolitically into the Continent (Reich), the Island (Britain, Sicily) and the Peninsula (Scandinavia, Denmark). And the only thing that unites this West are the three world viewpoints, three world projects – Red, White and Black – that fought each other in every country of the West, periodically splashing out to other countries.
Moreover, the formation of these three world viewpoints was predetermined by the defeat of the Irish Orthodoxy in the West and its departure to the underground, where it met Albigensians who were comrades in peril.
These three world projects originated on the eve of the World War of the Middle Ages, although of course all of them had roots in the past – for example, the Red project is clearly connected with the Essenes of the Dead Sea, and White and Black projects with the Punic wars.
And for