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If you want some insight into how deep the collective public psychosis in this land runs, check out Dan Reed’s four-hour documentary about the late Michael Jackson streaming on the HBO cable network. The film apparently provoked outrage when it premiered at the Sundance Festival recently, as if it were in bad taste to disclose the icon’s peccadillos in these days of Progressive intersectional triumph.
Mr. Jackson methodically assembled a harem of catamites as his show business fame exploded and he struggled with the personal horror of developing into a full-grown man. He solved that problem by restricting his social consort to little boys while surgically metamorphosing into a schematic approximation of a woman — interesting, since he repeatedly referred to women as “evil,” but then his greatest hit was the self-revealing song, Bad.
Everybody and his uncle’s-second-cousin in Hollywood at the time must have known what the deal was with him but they went along with the gag that he was the reincarnation of Peter Pan, just a harmless character out of Show Biz’s own catalog of manufactured mythology, something they could understand, a framing device to spin cotton candy out of the truth that Mr. Jackson was simply a child-molester.
The two men featured in the film, Wade Robson and James Sawchuck, now full-grown themselves, with children of their own, were recruited at age 5 and 7, with their families coming along for the ride, mesmerized by the sparkly trappings of Jacksondom and all the money and unreality that emanated from it. The two moms, Joy Robson and Stephanie Sawchuck, gave permission for their boys to travel unaccompanied with Jackson on tour, and to share Mr. Jackson’s bed, testimony to their amazing feckless credulity. Sometimes they stayed at the star’s 2700-acre Neverland Ranch. Joy Robson states that whole days would go by when she wouldn’t see her son there, or know what he was doing with Mr. Jackson, feeling so alone that she resorted to passing the time with Mr. Jackson’s pet chimpanzee. “We became good friends,” she said of the chimp. Meanwhile, Mr. Jackson had initiated her son into homosexual sex with him, apparently in every room at Neverland — and there were a lot of rooms in all those buildings.
There were several other boys lured into the star’s sexual service besides the two featured in the film, and the law eventually caught up with Mr. Jackson. Though the prosecution botched both of his trials, the evidence and testimony made public was so unappetizing that even Hollywood had to quietly dissociate from the damaged entertainer — emphasis on the quietly. The star did the rest, losing most of his fortune, and eventually his very life at age 50 via a drug overdose. Gore Vidal put it best, as when remarking on the death of his literary rival Truman Capote: “Good career move.”
The fathers of these two boys come off as ciphers in the documentary. They seemingly had nothing to say about the insane goings-on, an interesting preview of the current status of adult males in this land today: authority revoked. The career of Mr. Jackson was also a preview of what America is acting out these days: a life of no boundaries, where anything goes and nothing matters. The bottom line for him, as he told one of the mothers who demurred from allowing her kid to leave home and spend a year living with Mr. Jackson, was “I always get what I want.”
Michael Jackson’s stalwart fans have mounted a counter-attack against the film and its maker, Dan Reed. “They’re the Islamic State of fandom,” he said.
As The New York Times put it in its coverage of the lurid tale, “Jackson’s supporters don’t see it that way. Instead they identify as researchers and activists who view Jackson as a civil rights case.” I suppose the Southern Poverty Law Center will brand the film as a vehicle of “hate,” and take up their battle flag. Since every other threshold of sexual behavior and identity has been crossed by now, get ready for the official attempt to normalize pederasty.
Or, just perhaps, Leaving Neverland signals an interesting turning point in the madness that has gripped this country for years, and especially the bewitched, bothered, and bewildered thinking class, lost in its labyrinth of sacred monsters. This year 2019 — and especially the coming springtime — promises to be a time of spectacular reversals in politics, manners, and markets.
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“Or, just perhaps, Leaving Neverland signals an interesting turning point in the madness that has gripped this country for years, […]. This year 2019 — and especially the coming springtime — promises to be a time of spectacular reversals in politics, manners, and markets”
We can only hope
This is a Jim Kunstler Masterpiece. A true artist of wit and word.
One thing Jim left out was the effect of all this Neverland shenanigans on Bubbles, Jackson’s trusty chimp sidekick. I can only hope the SPLC will take up HIS cause.
Kunstler is more worried about the sexual goings-on of a dead Michael Jackson rather then the heavy possiblity that a lying political hack and potential rapist now sits on the Supreme Court. Yes he truly is a wit. Or at least a half-wit.
“Potential Rapist?” That’s a pretty serious charge – can you back that up with evidence? Because the Democrats sure as hell couldn’t. And besides, I could say the same thing about literally every human being on the planet.
The Kavanaugh debacle was one of the most damaging things to happen to our culture that I’ve seen in my lifetime. Trust between men and women is at an all time low, partly because of baseless accusations of vague ‘sexual misconduct’ (WTF does that even mean, by the way?)
But let me guess – you probably thought it was awesome, and wish that we could have destroyed his life and that of his family, all based on some random shit that some random woman said. And let me repeat – there was NO FUCKING EVIDENCE.
You’re right, that is a serious charge. Which is exactly why he should not be on ANY bench, let alone the Supreme Court. He would have likely raped that woman years ago if she hadn’t escaped, afforded by his usual drunkenness.
You people on the right are completely without moral compass. Ironically, you hide behind religion as a validation for your twisted morality. You are a sad lot.
So anybody can accuse anyone of anything and therefore it must be accorded serious consideration?
I recognize your style… You raped me 12 years ago. I don’t know where, I can’t recall the details. I did not file a report but dammit I know it happened and I want justice!
Any fool, except those voting for D J Trump, knows Kavanaugh attempted to rape that woman. She kept the secret for decades until finding out this man was on the short list to join the highest court. No one would have put themselves, and family, in danger from deranged Trump advocates with absolutely nothing to gain.
She felt a sense of duty, albeit reluctantly, to shine a light on the character of a man being considered for the Supreme Court. She underestimated the immorality of the Republican party, and the stupidity of those that follow it’s leaders.
Every single thing you said is just complete bullshit. When a leftist speaks, it’s the complete opposite of the truth. So when you say ‘inclusivity’ you mean excluding white men, etc. And that old trope we always hear from your side… ‘Well, she MUST be telling the truth because no one else would put themselves through that otherwise’… Yep. More bullshit. Your feelings about the matter don’t constitute evidence, and you also conveniently are forgetting that your side has turned victimhood into a currency, and Ford will be able to live off of that currency for the rest of her life.
Oh do tell how Mrs. Ford is living off the currency of her victimhood? Your feelings on the matter is no evidence of innocence either. Kavanugh was never going to be eliminated from consideration without video tape of his alleged attack. It’s up to the intelligent and discerning to draw the most likely conclusion. Who had the most to lose and the most to gain by lying. Trump voters are incapable of such thought. ..Not your fault.
Orange man bad! Orange man bad!
Burn the witch! Burn the witch!
JHK: “I suppose the Southern Poverty Law Center will brand the film as a vehicle of ‘hate,’ and take up their battle flag.”
You suppose? WTF is this supposed to mean, Jim? Other than a vintage example of a drive-by smear. Shame on you.
If that’s the case, then the smear is well deserved.
2A isn’t the only freedom on the liberal hit list; 1A has got to go as well. And the best legal vehicle so far has been to label free expression that counters liberal ideals as hate.
Europe is already lost.
I agree, ExScotticus. And the Southern Poverty Hate Center is an example of the worse kind of globalist funded, weaponized defamation.
It’s often obvious they haven’t even done the most basic homework. As when one of their little Torquemada’s appeared on TV to denounce David Icke, having read not one word by the man and not even knowing how to pronounce his name.
I won’t even get into all the morally questionable acts on SPLC founder Morris Dees; interested parties can look that up on their own.
It’s no surprise that those who make a living from finding hate, sniff out Nazis and klansmen behind every bush. They directly or indirectly encourage the Jussie Smolletts of the world to manufacture fraudulent hate crimes and fake news. Such contemptible provocateurs thrive on identity politics and dividing Americans one against the other.
Exscotticus, if you think your attitude evinces a respect for truth above political correctness, think again. Neither you nor JHK gets to tar an organization with supporting pedophilia because you think they ‘deserve it’ in some fact-free manner.
Cardinal George Pell of Australia isn’t in prison now because smears have merit. He’s there because facts, adjudicated in a court of law, have merit. Now either put up some evidence for this smear, or accept that it’s you who are the faeces-flinging chimp.
>>> Neither you nor JHK gets to tar an organization with supporting pedophilia
That’s your interpretation. Who knows what SPLC’s agenda is. But since you brought up the duck test, it’s certainly worth considering for discussion and debate.
Liberal logic: SPLC gets to tar people and organizations, directly or indirectly, as hateful, but no one is permitted to call them out on their long infamous history of 1A censorship, racism and double standards.
You want the people you like to decide what hate is. That’s not how free expression works.
Exscotticus, you are a tarpit. If this site enabled me to do so, I would filter you out as a dangerous waste of time and mental effort.
On the one side we have fact-based criticism and defense of universal rights, as the SPLC practices. On the other we have scurrilous smears of supporting pedophilia, such as both you and JHK are trading in. If you think these two things can be treated on the same moral plane, then your judgment is worse than defective.
Consider yourself rightfully ignored, as of now.
Please!!! Not that!!! Don’t put Exscotticus on IGNORE!!!!!
Oh if ignoring could only solve such problems Elrond, how great the world would be. You continue to come here and flatulate in the general direction of our host and those that agree with him and to what end I always wonder. It reminds me of a saying my Father often spoke about hitting yourself in the head with a hammer because it felt good when you stopped. Sound advice I reckon.
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2018/09/10/southern-poverty-law-center-essentially-a-fraud/
>>> On the one side we have fact-based criticism and defense of universal rights, as the SPLC practices.
Who’s facts, joker? Yours or mine?
Why doesn’t the SPLC list antifa as a hate group?
The SPLC condemns violence in all its forms, including the violent acts of far-left street movements like antifa (short for anti-fascist). But the propensity for violence, though present in many hate groups, is not among the criteria for listing. Also, antifa groups do not promote hatred based on race, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation or gender identity (see criteria above).
Hear that, folks? According to SPLC, lefty violence is uncorrelated with hate. So, apparently, is all rap music.
Ha haha
The little dictator in elrond is exposed. I always knew it was lurking in there someplace.
Well, until such time as the major stock-market indices lose half their value or any of the politicians such as Hillary Clinton who initiated “Russia-gate” face some kind of real consequences for that, I for one still take most of JHK’s off-the-cuff pronouncements with a very large grain of salt. 🙂
humuller I looked up the SLPC’s assets and income last year – they are enormous. It is safe to say that they do not know poverty. It would not surprise me if they do not do even the most basic research as this is the case for the media in general, except if they are out to get a conservative, when they will search for the proverbial needle in the haystack.
Elrond “Pell… isn’t in prison now because smears have merit. He’s there because facts, adjudicated in a court of law, have merit.”
I am getting tired of defending the victims of witch hunts. Can’t someone else take five minutes to search the internet for a change? But I find myself here yet again. Elrond, have you actually looked at the ‘facts’? The first trial was hung 10-2 in Pell’s favour. The second found him guilty of five(?) charges unanimously. (Were there other charges he was found innocent of? If so why would some be believed and others not, if they came from the same source? Someone else can look it up.) My understanding is that there were two ‘survivors’, just that one of the two died as a drug addict and had apparently told his mother before he died that Pell had done nothing. These are historic accusations, the worst kind for justice. It looks like the jury were influenced by the media hysteria and bigotry on a massive scale, to say nothing of fantasy and lies. (I live in Ireland so I know how it goes.)
The uncorroborated allegations are not only absurd but cliched. I await the Oscar-winning film, with red-neck journos talking with their mouth full. “What? You mean investigate the Church?!” (How could anyone be so rash and foolhardy to take on the Power of the Church in this day and age?) So he buggered them in the vestry straight after mass in a cathedral? Really? He must have the same superhuman powers that Savile had, including invisibility. Couldn’t they think of a different scenario? No, it is always a D, E or F for invention and originality: it was in the vestry and he was wearing his episcopal finery. No doubt he would have been wearing his mitre and holding his crook if anyone in the prosecution knew what these things were (I blame television).Well, at least he was not supposed to have said God wanted them to do it or (the all time no1) “This will be our little secret”.
Elrond, you really need to examine your knee-jerk bigotry. I suggest you consult the late Richard Webster’s Sceptical Essays website (false allegations section) as a first step. Then, when you know what to look for (those little tell-tale signs that they are lying their heads off, such as when the first version of the story is completely different to subsequent tellings or the villain of the piece starts talking gibberish – *see note below) you can venture out into the internet all on your own to make up your own mind.
I came across Pell a couple of years ago in an Australian television discussion of climate change. He was impressive and funny and the true believers clearly loathed him. He came across as a fine, no-nonsense example of the best of Australia.
* Note. Change one letter and you get George Bell, Bishop of Winchester and recently subjected to an anonymous allegation dating back to the 1950s (The Church of England did not lift a finger to defend him or even, it appears, to look at the allegation critically). Bell was said to be favourite for the Archbishop of Canterbury job but he blotted his copybook by criticising the barbaric allied bombing of Germany in the War. His anonymous accuser, ‘Carol’, told a newspaper (from memory), ‘He said it would be our little secret because God loved me.’ Yeah, that’s how the bishop would have spoken all right.
SPLC’s offshore tax havens are most interesting.
Elrond is only about “feeling” morally superior. It’s how he gets his diminutive rocks off.
Are you from Australia? You are as bad as Andrew Bolt,who has contempt for the judicial process and the judgement of the
jury,who actually listened to the evidence. Were you on the jury
for the months that trial went on? No. Doesn’t stop you spreading your bullshit on an international forum,does it?
The last trial was not connected to the first trail. They were different charges,by different complainant. If anyone wants a
detailed explanation of the background to this case ,there is a chapter in the Milligan book below .
Then we have you giving a paragraph lauding Pell’s impressive knowledge of climate science. Only a scientific ignoramus would be impressed by Pell’s knowledge of that;which is rudimentary.
https://www.amazon.com/Cardinal-Rise-Fall-George-Pell-ebook/dp/B071VRGJC4/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=cardinal.milligan&qid=1551742207&s=books&sr=1-1
David Higham
“Are you from Australia? You are as bad as Andrew Bolt,who has contempt for the judicial process and the judgement of the
jury,who actually listened to the evidence.”
No, Ireland (originally England). Are you from Australia? Do I care?
“The last trial was not connected to the first trail. They were different charges,by different complainant.”
According to Wikipedia you are right. I do not know much about this case but the pattern is clear (see my other posts here about the impossibility of keeping up with deceit on an industrial scale). But they are all the same ridiculous ‘kind’ of charge, egged on by the same hysterical media. It is fair to say you are splitting hairs. By the way, Wikipedia does not mention the 10-2 verdict in favour of Pell in the first trial. I suppose they did not think it worth including.
“Were you on the jury
for the months that trial went on? No.”
You answered it for me. Were you on it? No. I have read reports that some who were present for the whole trial were dumbfounded at the verdict. See the third of the links I included in another post, below.
“Doesn’t stop you spreading your bullshit on an international forum,does it?”
What ‘bullshit’? My post demonstrates a knowledge of the wider context of contemporary witch hunts, and this seems to be absent from yours. Do you actually know anything about that context? Anything at all?
“There is a chapter in the Milligan book below .”
The book gets a mention in Wikipedia. Is it a balanced portrayal of Pell by an objective, fair-minded journalist? Somehow I doubt it.
“Then we have you giving a paragraph lauding Pell’s impressive knowledge of climate science. Only a scientific ignoramus would be impressed by Pell’s knowledge of that;which is rudimentary.”
I did not say he had an impressive knowledge of climate science (did I?). Rather he impressed me with his humorous and justifiably robust mockery of the climate believers in the audience, most of them young people, who clearly loathed him. (Perhaps you can explain why.) I do not believe you need a scientific qualification in order to identify delusional behaviour. Pell came across as an example of all that is admirable in Australian men. There is a fairly well known video of Peter Hitchens addressing an audience of a very different kind of Australian which you might be familiar with. I can get a link if you cannot find it. To a howling crowd at the end Hitchens observed, “This is a rally!”
I assume from your air of knowingness that you believe the climate nonsense. I do not and I can give a reasoned defence of the position, which I doubt you can do. Are you a climate scientist? (This I have learnt from experience is the standard opening gambit of the deluded on internet forums.)
Sean Coleman,
Your comment shows that you do indeed not know
much about this case. My question about whether you were
on the jury relates to the fact that the evidence from the main witness was held in closed session,with no journalists or general public present. Yet you have no hesitation about labelling the trial a ‘witch hunt’. The trial was not a ‘witch hunt’.
It was a trial of an individual on specific charges,and the judge
followed all the normal legal procedures in instructing the jury.
No doubt the fact that Pell is a climate change denier has
increased your affinity with him,but is irrelevant to the trial.
Some of the points you have raised have also been raised
by Andrew Bolt,so I will include a link related to that.
There is also an extract from the Milligan book providing some
information on this case.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/mar/04/andrew-bolt-please-stop-implying-that-you-know-all-the-facts-about-george-pell
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/feb/28/the-kid-and-the-choirboy-the-harrowing-story-of-george-pells-victims
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/law-crime/2019/03/01/george-pells-conviction/15513984677566
David Higham
” Your comment shows that you do indeed not know
much about this case.”
Yes, that is what I said. Do you want me to repeat myself?
“My question about whether you were
on the jury relates to the fact that the evidence from the main witness was held in closed session,with no journalists or general public present. Yet you have no hesitation about labelling the trial a ‘witch hunt’. The trial was not a ‘witch hunt’.””
Disingenuous and simple-minded. The media have had no hesitation whatsoever in labelling Pell a monster and the same goes for thousands of online commenters. You are perfectly happy to accept Pell’s guilt because that was the outcome of the trial but I doubt you would have come on here to say the same thing had he been found not guilty. My original comment was in response to Elrond’s appeal to the “facts”. Now you are going to have to try to think instead of reacting automatically. In a context where abuse witch hunts are very common these days relying on a jury’s verdict to establish Pell’s guilt simply will not do because that is what happens in witch hunts: innocent men get convicted. Just think about that for a minute. To use a comparison already used, it is the same as accepting that AGW is real because ‘climate scientists’ say it is, or because the IPCC says so. My labelling of this case as a witch hunt is perfectly justified in the light of this context. If you want to challenge me you will first have to read up about it. I suggest Richard Webster (Sceptical Essays website) as the first place to go, not least because it seems that anyone who develops an interest in witch hunts, no matter what the witch hunt was which first caught their interest, ends up with Webster, and that seems to include the academics.
I read the two Guardian articles but not the last one. Firstly, the Guardian is not really a reliable source of information in these matters. Their February 2015 leading article about Jimmy Savile is a comedy classic – comparing him to Pol Pot, suggesting digging up his corpse for the people to vent their fury and also suggesting that the reason he got away with his crimes was that they were so outrageous that nobody could believe they were witnessing them! My heart sank when I saw the Guardian mentioned. You may as well ask Snopes. (By the way, Webster argued that the broadsheets (what Peter Hitchens calls ‘the unpopular press’) were more dangerous than the tabloids when it came to abandoning common sense and joining in the mass delusion.)
Clare Linane’s article is wholly unconvincing. She argues that it is well known that victims deny their abuse. Maybe so and maybe not. What is undeniably well known (at least to those who take the trouble to do their research) is that grown adults lie or delude themselves for reasons we can only guess at: money, attention, solidarity with other ‘survivors’, insanity. There are many cases to support this.
She trots out the same arguments you get always, and they do not convince. One of them, for example, is that the trauma caused them to mess up their lives with drugs or drink, or caused their failed marriages: everything that went wrong for them is blamed on it. Yet the opposite is most likely the case: they go off the rails, become criminals, become or remain habitual liars and fantasists and then, when the police come trawling for complaints in their investigation, they step forward, confident that they have found mugs who will swallow their fantasies. The dead accuser in the Pell case was a heroin user.
The sacristy or vestry being a quiet place. I was altar boy in my youth and after mass the sacristy was busy with people coming and going, not least the sacristan. The allegations on which Pell was convicted are simply unbelievable.
The second article is exactly what you would expect from the close family of a heroin addict. How is this supposed to convince anyone? This is just wasting my time: find out about these things yourself and develop your own opinions. You will be quoting Wikipedia next!
Finally, do look at this link. The short video at the top is well known here in Ireland. A ‘survivor’ talks of his abuse while in care at the hands of the Catholic clergy. Yet the media do not do their job and it was not they who found his earlier radio interview where he denied that anything happened to him when he was in care, and very few know about it but remember the tv performance. So when was he telling the truth: in the tv studio or ten years earlier? They cannot both be true.
http://irishsalem.blogspot.com/2018/02/recovered-memory-and-allegations-of.html
Now, in the light of my requests here not to have to use up my time repeating the same points to every Tom, Dick and Harry who gets a simple idea into his head, I must leave matters lie. If you are interested (and you ought to be) you will follow up on my links and reading suggestions. I doubt you are and, if so, you will remain in the comfort zone of your simple, heart-felt prejudices. This is the power of fantasy.
Sean Coleman,
So,having minimal knowledge of Pell’s trial,
you come to this site,make incorrect statements about it,
shout ‘Witch Hunt’,and then proceed to ridicule and smear
the victims and their relatives. Despite the Royal Commision here.uncovering a horrific amount of clerical abuse,nowhere
in your comments is there any trace of outrage at that abuse,
or any sign of sympathy for the victims. This abuse has
occurred all around the world. All of your sympathy is for the
perpetrators. There is something deeply unsettling about your comments. You really deserve a far less polite comment than
this one,but I’ll leave it at that. Here’s something just for you.
https://independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/times-up-for-the-catholic-church,12438
Thank you for taking this on, david higham. I’m content to let your words stand as my position on this topic as well.
I do want to add something, though. Mr. Coleman writes, in part:
“The media have had no hesitation whatsoever in labelling Pell a monster and the same goes for thousands of online commenters. You are perfectly happy to accept Pell’s guilt because that was the outcome of the trial but I doubt you would have come on here to say the same thing had he been found not guilty. My original comment was in response to Elrond’s appeal to the ‘facts’.”
The scare quotes around the word ‘facts’ tell the tale, as far as I’m concerned. To all appearances, Mr. Coleman is committed to the belief that the well-established pattern of sexual abuse of vulnerable people by the Catholic church hierarchy is false, and a hysterical witch hunt. When a process designed to evaluate facts in light of reason, and render a judgment under law, reaches a conclusion he disputes, the tack he takes is to denigrate factuality itself.
Nothing can penetrate denialism, whether the topic be anthropogenic global warming, the false claim that vaccines cause autism, the reality of peak fossil fuels, or the sad and destructive pattern of the Catholic hierarchy revealed yet again in this case. Meanwhile, Mr. Coleman can express whatever doubts he wants. But what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, and that includes doubt about his opponents’ conduct in some counterfactual world. Lastly, no doubt there will be appeals of the conviction. So if Mr. Coleman thinks Cardinal George Pell has been wrongly convicted, then I encourage him to offer up his valuable services to the defense, and stop wasting his breath here.
David Higham
“Sean Coleman,
So,having minimal knowledge of Pell’s trial,
you come to this site,make incorrect statements about it,
shout ‘Witch Hunt’,and then proceed to ridicule and smear
the victims and their relatives.”
My knowledge may be minimal but it is nevertheless more than most. No incorrect statements. It ‘is’ a witch hunt. No ridicule of alleged victims but criticism of those like yourself who take their part without trying to understand the larger context, even when it is brought to their attention. No smear as I merely said this is what you would expect of drug users and their families.
“Despite the Royal Commision here.uncovering a horrific amount of clerical abuse,nowhere
in your comments is there any trace of outrage at that abuse,
or any sign of sympathy for the victims.”
As the Dundee Uni. paper of last year noted, the ‘official narrative’ is part of the problem not the solution. That would presumably include the Royal Commission. Where, from your knowledge of mass psychology and witch hunts, is the evidence that such official enquiries are exempt from laws of human nature that apply to everyone else. I will go further, Webster repeatedly makes the point that witch hunts are, and always were, driven by the educated among us rather than the uneducated. There is a clear parallel with in the inability of academics, media and our governing elites to see what is happening under their noses.
“This abuse has
occurred all around the world.”
It is ‘reported’ as having occurred all round the world. Big difference.
“All of your sympathy is for the
perpetrators. There is something deeply unsettling about your comments.”
My sympathy is for the falsely accused (and Pell clearly fits in that bracket, even to someone with minimal information). The perpetrators in so many high-profile abuse cases are the alleged victims and survivors.
Here is that rare thing, a left-wing journalist who does her job.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/29/oscar-hangover-special-why-spotlight-is-a-terrible-film/
Opening line: ‘I don’t “believe the victims”.’
“You really deserve a far less polite comment than
this one,but I’ll leave it at that. Here’s something just for you.
independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/times-up-for-the-catholic-church,12438”
I will see if I have time to read that link. Here is a thing though: how come I read your links but you obviously read none of mine?
Elrond
“The scare quotes around the word ‘facts’ tell the tale, as far as I’m concerned. To all appearances, Mr. Coleman is committed to the belief that the well-established pattern of sexual abuse of vulnerable people by the Catholic church hierarchy is false, and a hysterical witch hunt. When a process designed to evaluate facts in light of reason, and render a judgment under law, reaches a conclusion he disputes, the tack he takes is to denigrate factuality itself.”
You actually get to the heart of it although you reach the wrong conclusions. Your well established pattern is indeed false. Denigrating factuality itself: this is the big dividing line between those who believe in the mass fantasy and those who do not. I do not think it is easy, perhaps even possible, to bridge the gap. Let’s try once more: in a witch hunt a judgment under law does not necessarily prove guilt, and in the anticlerical witch hunt (or Anti-Catholic I should say) it often does not prove it. It is indeed a process which developed to prove facts in the light of reason but the law has been seriously undermined.
From Webster again:
http://www.richardwebster.net/similarfactevidence.html
” 28 In any society where the crime of child sexual abuse has been demonised to the extent that it has in our own society, the presumption of innocence in relation to those who are accused of this crime is seriously threatened. When defendants are compelled to face large numbers of allegations of sexual abuse made by different complainants in a single trial, the presumption of innocence is almost inevitably destroyed.
” 29 In such cases the effective destruction of the presumption of innocence has been brought about by the courts themselves and in particular by the decisions made by the House of Lords in P and H. Because these decisions have permitted, and indeed encouraged, the admission of evidence which is both highly unreliable and massively prejudicial, innocent defendants have again and again found themselves facing large numbers of allegations, all of which are false. Again and again, as could readily have been predicted (and as was foreseen in the original exclusionary similar fact principle), juries have convicted on the basis of such evidence.
” 30 The result over the past eleven years has been a systematic and continuing perversion of justice on a scale which would once have been unimaginable. Unlike previous systematic injustices in the twentieth-century, the original authors of these injustices are the courts themselves.”
Webster was brought up as a Methodist but I think he became an atheist, certainly a strict Darwiniast. He is also a rare example of a good journalist.
Elrond
“Nothing can penetrate denialism, whether the topic be anthropogenic global warming, the false claim that vaccines cause autism, the reality of peak fossil fuels, or the sad and destructive pattern of the Catholic hierarchy revealed yet again in this case. Meanwhile, Mr. Coleman can express whatever doubts he wants. But what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, and that includes doubt about his opponents’ conduct in some counterfactual world. Lastly, no doubt there will be appeals of the conviction. So if Mr. Coleman thinks Cardinal George Pell has been wrongly convicted, then I encourage him to offer up his valuable services to the defense, and stop wasting his breath here.”
But I do adduce evidence. I have given countless pieces of evidence in the case of the Catholic witch hunt. I gave some specific cases in the case of AGW which nobody tried to rebut or refute (and probably did not bother to read), including the belief that it causes an increase in hurricanes. Peak fuels: I have never expressed an opinion about this anywhere, I don’t know anything about it and it does not seem unreasonable. Vaccines causing autism: I don’t recall ever saying this, but rather that the case against Wakefield was grossly unfair and that the successful appeal by his colleague in the study, John Walker-Smith, the world’s leading authority in his specialization, showed that the GMC had ignored evidence and did not use reason (common elements in mass fantasies).
As for my ‘counterfactual world’ you have it the wrong way round (like everything). I bought Swedish philosopher Asa Wikforss’s book Alternativa Faktor because she wrote it to show how Trump and his ilk were twisting and distorting facts. She shares your views. I bought the book out of curiosity in order to see what ‘evidence’ she would base these arguments. As expected, it is thin, very thin indeed, from memory 30 to 40 facts stretched across the entire book and I suspect that most of those are false. As Colin Flaherty says, show me your evidence.
Good points,and thanks, Elrond
Here are a few Pell links:
https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2019/02/the-pell-affair-australia-is-now-on-trial
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/why-the-case-against-cardinal-george-pell-doesnt-stand-up/
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/after-guilty-verdict-questions-raised-about-pell-trial-88675
Sean Coleman – “I have read reports that some who were present for the whole trial were dumbfounded at the verdict.” Who? Only members of his defence team who had drunk the Pell Kool-Aid.
You admit you don’t know much about the two trials. Do you know much about the other internal Catholic investigations into his other alleged misbehaviour?
The Victorian DPP proceeded with the cases they were most likely to get a guilty verdict.
Pell will get his appeal if a legal fault is found.
Catholic News Agency link – questioning verdict – hardly surprising.
National Review article and firstthings.com – both written by George Weigel a Catholic Scholar.
whoisbiggles
I will deal with your post before David Higham’s, as there are a couple of links in his I have to read first.
Your first question – you need to look at the third (I believe) link in my post with three links. It does not give a name.
Indeed I do not know much about the two trials, whether that is down to biased media reporting, incompetent reporting or the effects of the reporting ban I really do not know, and I do not expect to have time to go much deeper into it. Same applies tot he other Catholic investigations you refer to. This is one of the problems with commenting on these things, and indeed on anything that is happening.
“The Victorian DPP proceeded with the cases they were most likely to get a guilty verdict.” Not sure what your point was so what follows may not be relevant. I understand that they were digging for dirt on Pell even before they received an allegation (see above paragraph as to the reliability of this report). That would tie in with what has happened in witch hunts elsewhere. In Britain they call it police trawling. For example, in the North Wales case a number of allegations were made and the police then contacted former inmates of the homes to see if they also had allegations. It is no surprise to reveal that they indeed did and that some of these complainants were at the time lodged at Her Majesty’s pleasure (ie locked up in prison) or had destroyed themselves with drink or drugs. As a result of the police investigation many innocent men and women were locked up. The Sceptical Essays website of the late Richard Webster, who wrote a comprehensive book about the witch hunt, The Secret Of Bryn Estyn, has quite a lot to say about trawling.
“Catholic News Agency link – questioning verdict – hardly surprising.” I do not think it is as unsurprising as you think. When Irish nun Nora Wall was falsely accused, and then convicted, her order, the Sisters of Charity, could not apologize fast enough to her ‘victims’ and this is the usual pattern. http://www.irishsalem.com/irish-controversies/the-passion-of%20nora-wall-1999/ThePassionofNoraWall.php
The late Bishop George Bell of the Church of England was the subject of absurd abuse allegations going back to the 1950s (his anonymous accuser ‘Carol’ told a newspaper that he had told her, ‘This is our little secret because God loves you’, as if the man would talk like a character in a soap opera). Peter Hitchens has written a lot about it. The CofE could not destroy Bell’s reputation quickly enough.
“National Review article and firstthings.com – both written by George Weigel a Catholic Scholar.” Yeah, well. Why don’t the atheist media act according to their professed principles? Any suggestions? Well, there is at least one straight left-wing journalist, American JoAnn Wypijewski, who wrote about the Boston witch hunt and in particular about Fr Paul Shanley (her article The Passion of Fr Paul Shanley is freely available online).
Here is an apposite extract from the Nora Wall article:
“A 2.3 Sentenced to Life
On 23 July 1999 Nora Wall and Pablo McCabe came before Judge Paul Carney for sentencing in the Central Criminal Court. Their Counsel Hugh Hartnett sought an adjournment or a stay on any sentence. He told the court that there appeared to have been a grave breach of non-disclosure of evidence by the State. The State had not disclosed that Ms Walsh alleged she had been raped in London. Neither had they disclosed that Patricia Phelan’s allegations against an unnamed man had been dismissed in judicial review proceedings.
“Incredibly Mr Denis Vaughan Buckley for the State refused to accept that anything was wrong. He said that the Gardai were not aware of these matters during their investigations. He rejected the claim that there had not been full disclosure of evidence and said that these issues were not relevant to the case!!
“The behaviour of Justice Carney was equally bizarre. He said that Nora Wall was the leader and had carried out a “gang rape” on the victim. He sentenced her to life imprisonment and Pablo McCabe to 12 years. He refused leave to appeal. Nora Wall was the first woman convicted of rape in the history of the State and now became the first person to receive a life sentence for that crime. Justice Carney may have had no option but to pass sentence but he knew about the undisclosed evidence. Why the thuggish comments and the unprecedented sentence?”
If you don’t mind me saying, Biggles, you need to look into the phenomenon of contemporary witch hunts, and in particular the Anti-Catholic ones, so that you can better understand what is happening all around you. I suggest you start with Webster.
In Australia we had a 2 year long Royal Commission into Institutional Child Abuse.
George Pell was named as someone who moved paedophile priests from parish to parish. He denied this, now that he is convicted child rapist these accusations will be revisited.
They were a number of accusations of child abuse made against him – these two cases where judged by the Victorian DPP as the strongest and most likely to get a guilty verdict.
There were no reported police dawn raids in Victoria, no leaking of evidence prior to the trial. Dogged cops and prosecutors who have spent years meticulously building a case and doing so in a way as to do nothing that could contaminate this case.
The full transcript of what happened in the trial room has not been made public due to death of one of the accusers. Anyone who claims to have been in the courtroom for the entire trial is a liar, on a number of occasions the courtroom held closed sessions.
George Pell is a convicted child rapist who unless he gets off on a technicality. The High Court, as recently as 5 years ago, holds the Jury system to be the centre of our justice system. (Bayden Clay v R). A conviction by a jury should not be overturned without new evidence tested by a jury.
Once the appeals process for this case is over – other cases against him will commence. Getting subsequent convictions for child rape against a convicted paedophile is much easier. Shouldn’t be – but it is.
I can’t comment on what has happened overseas – perhaps the police here have seen that such sensationalist acts, as you have listed, don’t make for sound convictions.
Victorian police are not perfect. If you want a good laugh read up on Lawyer X and the Melbourne gangland wars. How senior police could think having a gangsters lawyer as a police informant would end well – it is absolutely laughable.
whoisbiggles
Not much new in your post. I’ll try and look up Lawyer X.
However, your ‘dogged police officers’ bring Webster to mind.
http://www.richardwebster.net/trawlinggoesontrial.html
http://www.richardwebster.net/trawlingnetstheinnocent.html
And this one in its entirety:
http://www.richardwebster.net/howthepolicetrawltheinnocent.html
“MORE THAN THREE YEARS ago, in July 1999, the New Statesman exposed the scandal of police ‘trawling’ to investigate alleged sexual abuse. Instead of waiting for victims to come forward and make complaints, we reported that the police are now setting set out to find allegations by contacting as many former residents of care homes as they can.”
“The report calls for the compulsory audio or video recording of police interviews with alleged victims and anonymity for the accused. Crucially, it also calls for the rules on ‘similar fact evidence’ to be tightened so that defendants will be less likely to find themselves in the impossibly prejudicial situation of having to face, in a single trial, large numbers of horrific sexual allegations all of which may be false.”
And the start of this one:
http://www.richardwebster.net/howthepolicetrawltheinnocent.html
“ONE EVENING IN MAY of this year, Brian Johnson, a 43-year-old former care worker from South Wales, telephoned me from a call box in Cardiff. He had been charged on several counts of physical and sexual abuse. But the prosecution had offered a deal. Good-humoured as always, Johnson told me: ‘If I plead guilty to the physical charges, they are prepared to drop all the sexual allegations and I will almost certainly walk out of court a free man. So what do I do?’
I didn’t really need to answer. Johnson had already made up his mind. His legal team had collected substantial evidence that all the allegations against him had been fabricated. ‘I’m going back tomorrow,’ he said, ‘and I am going to tell them exactly where they can stick their offer. I am going to fight.’
For some time, there was no news. Then I found out what had happened. After a three-week trial, Brian Johnson had been found guilty on several counts of sexual abuse. He was sentenced to 15 years in prison. He was led from the court, shouting out that he was innocent.
The evidence against Johnson was collected during a new form of police inquiry which has developed only in the past ten years: the trawling operation. First used by Leicestershire police in the Frank Beck case in 1990, the method spread to North Wales, Cheshire and Merseyside. Now it has been used by as many as two-thirds of the country’s police forces to convict dozens of alleged abusers.
Detective Superintendent John Robbins, of the Merseyside police, has described this new kind of investigation as ‘the reverse of normal police methods’. Instead of starting from a crime and setting out to find the criminal, the trawling procedure starts with the suspect (or an allegation) and then attempts to find the crime. Police officers trace and interview former residents of care homes and, during these interviews, more evidence against the original suspect, or against other care workers, almost unfailingly emerges.
These investigations are often said to involve ‘children’s homes’. In fact they are usually residential institutions for troubled or difficult adolescents and, since the allegations of abuse usually refer back ten, 20 or even 30 years, those making them are not children at all. They are almost always adults, many of them with long criminal records. In a number of cases they make their allegations in prison or while facing serious criminal charges. It is here that the real dangers of police trawling operations become apparent – or ought to become apparent.
If police officers interview hundreds of damaged young people with long records of deception and dishonesty, with the aim of gathering allegations of abuse against those who once cared for them, it would be surprising if they did not succeed in provoking a large number of false allegations – particularly when it is known that such allegations can result in thousands of pounds being paid out by the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority. Yet police forces up and down the land continue their trawling operations with the full knowledge and implicit approval of Home Office ministers.”
Hear, hear, Elrond.
Europe is already lost?
Exscot,
Apparently Canada, also….
Canadian doctors tell father they will inject his 14-year-old daughter with male hormones for transition without his permission
Elrond: You must be out of touch with the “new” Souther Poverty Law Center.
The SPLC is a once-storied organization that did important work filing civil rights lawsuits against the Ku Klux Klan in the 1970s. But it has become a caricature of itself, labeling virtually anyone who does not fall in line with its left-wing ideology an “extremist” or “hate group.”
“Shame on you”. The prig on his muy high horse returns.
On the one side we have fact-based criticism and defense of universal rights, as the SPLC practices….
yeah, that SPLC that even the WAPO thinks stinks…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-lost-all-credibility/2018/06/21/22ab7d60-756d-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html?utm_term=.0727358ff3fd
MJ’s fans have always been bonkers. In another internet life, I used to run an awards program for crackpot ideas, bad internet behavior, and other stupid net tricks. Several frequent participants in alt.fan.michael-jackson were regular winners.
As for the documentary itself, the controversy around it and its examination of show business will probably guarantee it nominations at the Emmy Awards and possibly the Oscars, that is, if the Motion Picture Academy figures out how to deal with Netflix and Amazon. The traditional movie business is feeling very threatened by streaming and HBO might just be collateral damage.
Tangentially, MJ himself was a fan of wildlife, like his pet chimp and the rest of his private zoo at Neverland, and pseudo-military uniforms, much like marching bands were. On those notes, I wish you and your readers a belated Happy World Wildlife Day 2019 and a Happy Marching Music Day!
“feckless credulity” – allow me to let you in on a secret. When a child is being sexually abused over a period of time, the mother always knows. She accepts it.
“feckless credulity” is giving those mothers the benefit of the doubt. Criminally complicit is closer to the truth.
Depends. maybe, maybe not.
fame gives a certain air.
‘assembled a harem of catamites’!!!! maybe the moms saw
a bunch of happy campers.
JHK mentioned MJ BY NAME in his book, TLE.
While that may be it must take a personal experience for a mother to get so bent. Some people are all about sharing their pain with others. If they knew what they were really all about they’d be horrified.
Wade Robson and James Sawchuck get standing ovation.
We are blaming the mothers for this why?
Ishabaka
It would be a reasonable inference to suppose that the moms must have been suspicious. And yet, they let it go… and go… and go. Their actions speak for them. To be fair, Part 2 has not aired yet and perhaps they will weep and rend their garments in it.
2 dads killed themselves.
if you havent read the VF link, do so.
Of course they will, it is socially acceptable for them to do so now. Their actions do speak for them and I wonder for each mother impressed by the bling how many others kept their children safe. Most of these freaks look for opportunities since they are not about anything else really and Michael probably cultured a knack for detecting families in confusion and taking advantage of situations.
Michael felt money made everything all right as most people do. You can see it if you read these lyrics from his point of view. A little rubbing of skin and he was going to make a big difference in their lives. Self justification at its finest. And he sure did. Now these men can go through life with everyone knowing they were butt-fucked by MJ. How delightful!
Their authority got revoked before they even had any.
I’m Gonna Make A Change,
For Once In My Life
It’s Gonna Feel Real Good,
Gonna Make A Difference
Gonna Make It Right . . .
As I, Turn Up The Collar On My
Favourite Winter Coat
This Wind Is Blowin’ My Mind
I See The Kids In The Street,
With Not Enough To Eat
Who Am I, To Be Blind?
Pretending Not To See
Their Needs
A Summer’s Disregard,
A Broken Bottle Top
And A One Man’s Soul
They Follow Each Other On
The Wind Ya’ Know
‘Cause They Got Nowhere
To Go
That’s Why I Want You To
Know
Money to indulge and money to pretend to make it right. I wish this fucker could please stay dead but I know that is too much to wish for. The king of wanna-be never did appeal to anyone with real purpose and he never appealed to me. Life gives us clowns enough. But too many with no business were amused by his aimless energy.
In Thailand, the poor sell their daughters into sexual slavery for International Pedophiles. Under pressure, the Thai Government is now cracking down on this, but no doubt it still goes on. How do they feel about it? Sorrow I suppose, but if they can’t feed them, it’s better than death I suppose. Do they still keep in touch, or do the girls become pariahs?
One of the main precepts of Buddhism is to abstain from sex with an inappropriate person. Surely this meets that standard.
This Wind Is Blowin’ My Mind
I See The Kids In The Street,
With Not Enough To Eat
Blowin My Mind? We’ve come a long way from Cole Porter.
Kids in the street not enough to eat? Oh yeah — wanna see my social justice medal?
What a crock of shit. And the masses lap it up, and bestow awards.
White House is weighing TPS for Venezuelans
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article226998919.html
“WASHINGTON — The White House is considering special protected immigration status to Venezuelans, a move that would prevent undocumented immigrants from the embattled South American country from being deported.
“According to five people familiar with the discussions, the White House has been having high-level discussions about the possibility of granting Temporary Protected Status, or TPS, to Venezuelans in the United States, which would give qualified recipients the chance to legally remain in the country and get work permits.
“Elliott Abrams, the Trump administration’s special envoy to Venezuela, has been one of the officials championing the cause at the White House. The idea also has received the support of Vice President Mike Pence, who earlier this week met in Colombia with Juan Guaidó, the internationally recognized interim president of Venezuela.
“Venezuelan-American activists, immigrant advocates and South Florida lawmakers have been lobbying the Trump administration to protect undocumented Venezuelan immigrants. But hard-line immigration activists also have taken notice of the discussions and have started to fight back — arguing that TPS is not the proper way to address the crisis.”
—
Making America great again, by making certain Latin American migrants opportunistically useful.
RINOs can’t resist the siren call of cheap undocumented labor.
I suspect that said country might have the largest largely untapped oil reserves left on the planet.
Hard to find the truth but if that is the case expect to see a new petro-dollar and deal with V coming under the loving embrace of uncle S.
Says the guy advocating for open borders.
“This year 2019 — and especially the coming springtime — promises to be a time of spectacular reversals in politics, manners, and markets.”
I appreciate JHK predictions, but I wonder what the success rate is.
Hmmm! Could it be what we are seeing in the Homo Sapiens species is a weakening and accelerated expression of recessives and mutations in the human genome. Is Mother Nature showing her fangs at a species who has become too prolific? Maybe it is a reaction to allowing too many “mistakes” to survive to procreation and affecting the gene pool. How many times in geological history might this have happened? Can you see it? Gay Tyrannosauruses, trans saber tooth’s,
Strange days indeed. Didn’t watch the special, as I had enough of Jackson even before his meteoric rise the superstardom back in the 80’s. Beyond the child molestation itself, which was entirely predictable, what were the parents doing letting their kids worship that little creep in the first place? And then to come back whining about it 30 years later on top of that? No surprises here: it buys the ticket, it takes the ride. Sorry folks, be advised that we have a STRICT no refunds policy!
Got caught up in a recent HBO miniseries, My Brilliant Friend instead, which, even with having to put up with subtitles to understand the spoken Italian, is a pretty decent story. No splash whatsoever, just good story.
read how the parents were bought off
Oh, 2 dads killed themselves,
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/03/10-undeniable-facts-about-the-michael-jackson-sexual-abuse-allegations
Odd, I was reading similar, yesterday.
the article gives facts.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/03/10-undeniable-facts-about-the-michael-jackson-sexual-abuse-allegations
Money and Fame breeds stange bedfellows. Literally. Although talented, MJ was a walking freak show and everyone knew it, including the mothers. It just shows how fucked up modern mankind is and how we accept anything under the guise of personal freedom and artistic expression. As long as there is money to be made…….
There has to be some kind of compromise position between a Saudi Arabia and the MJ behaviours we turn our attention from. If a MJ was hanging around my kids my wife would have kicked his ass before she told me about it. The next call would have been to the Police.
Superstars get away with shit. Catholic Priests used to be superstars – now entertainers are. Ditto Rabbis among the Orthodox Jews and I imagine charismatic Evangelical preachers among the Protestants.
Trotting out an already litigated case seems like exploitation, not so much of a tragic character, but rather of the public. A chance to describe the lurid details for an audience of pedofiles. We know the fortunes and misfortunes of Michael Jackson all too well. There was no need for this movie.
There’s evidence that besides tremendous physical abuse from his father Joe Jackson, Michael also went through gender inversion and was born a girl. Same with the rest of the family. No Adam’s apple, body of a girl, gentle demeanor, appears to be no junk in the trunk although incessantly grabbing his crotch onstage created a subliminal effect of there being something there.
There are also dozens of investigators of this sort of thing that conclude Michael may have faked his death, like many other celebrities. They become worth more ‘dead’ than alive.
Here’s a clip of Jackson pretending to be lovers with Diana Ross. Similar to the way Shirley Temple was abused for entertainment. Both enormously talented children.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DrGTOu59lIg
Jesus take the wheel. Soon.
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Admin Comment: ordinarily I would just hit “reply,” but this comment is so insane that I need to highlight it differently. You say, “We know the fortunes and misfortunes of Michael Jackson all too well. There was no need for this movie.” In which case, you are just joining the ranks of those in Hollywood and elsewhere who went along pretending there was nothing unwholesome about Mr. Jackson’s behavior. We’ve had enough pretend in this land. — JHK
It’s hard to understand how you get ‘joining the ranks’ from my comment. I was quite clear that Hollywood is pedophilia on parade. Michael Jackson was a victim and like many victims they become perps. It’s also hard to understand why anyone would give this trash movie any attention. There are better things to write about James.
Someone needs to take the wheel and start steering in a better direction, but personally I’d rather it not be Jesus. I think that one has already been tried.
When was it “tried”. Where was it “tried”? Ever?
This year 2019 — and especially the coming springtime — promises to be a time of spectacular reversals in politics, manners, and markets.
/shrugs Perhaps. But for now, everything seems as though it has been in a state of what I would call “dysfunctional suspended animation” ever since around Christmas. And even that is just a sub-chapter of what three years ago I recall you named “The Awful Lull”. Three cheers for the power of Printed Money! 😀
Michael Jackson wasn’t even Michael Jackson. Just like they put in a new Paul McCartney when they needed, they did the same after he died in that Pepsi accident. Then they had us believe that the man was addicted to plastic surgery and just couldn’t help himself
The remainder deleted by Admin for sheer idiocy. — JHK
Sometimes I can’t tell if seawolf is serious or practicing his standup comedy act for the “Cafe Conspiritatio”.
You say that, but if you look at it objectively the shit you people believe is 10 times more laughable than what I believe. I think JHK fears the government. He wants to keep the more incendiary comments off his blog to preserve his ecosystem. Remember he believed that the world was going to run out of oil and face apocalyptic results. As conspiracies go, that’s pretty out there. I mean that’s where the buses don’t run. The shit I proposed, using body doubles, is literally as old as the crucifixion, and if you believe the Koran, it was used on Jesus Christ himself.
Luke 23:26 tells us the Romans drafted Simon of Cyrene to carry the cross for Jesus. A Gnostic myth expanded on that verse and tells us the Romans proceeded to crucify Simon, because they were hypnotized and saw Jesus when they looked at Simon.
Curiously, this scenario is mirrored in a scene from Monty Python’s “Life of Brian”. Is the universe hinting at something, or are people having fun with variations on a story?
Why do you believe the moon landing was a fake? You seem to be an intelligent person and I am surrounded with scientists that are ashamed we have not been back.
I’m an engineer and I can tell this nothing works the first time. And the harder and more complicated a machine or task is, the longer and more tries it takes. There are only 2 massively complex undertakings that succeeded on the first try. The atom bomb and the lunar landings. They share the same date. They share the same characteristics in that they were only used a few times, very few or no one saw them, and they have never been repeated again. Stanley Kubrick did it with front screen projection. It was all a big ripoff. Do you think it is cheaper to make a movie about going to the moon or to actually go? There is your answer, and they pocketed the difference. Ditto nuclear weapons. Think about it. It is the ultimate scam. A weapon you have to build because the other guy is, but you’ll never use them because it would mean the end of the world. Dismantle them, build them again. Blah blah blah. Governments are already scary enough. They don’t need a boogeyman, at least not with me.
Go to YouTube and type in “moon landing hoax” and you’ll get a long string of videos which debunk the “conspiracy theorists”. Isn’t it nice how the Powers That Be want to make sure we only see the truth.
I’m undecided on the issue, but I hate the censorship of the silicon valley elitists (an arm of the deep state). My first inclination is to assume they are the liars. Truth tellers can win on the merits of their arguments, only liars need to gag their opponents.
I’m with Jasun Horsley, who once said that there is a Huge Secret International Conspiracy to promote the idea that there is a Huge Secret International Conspiracy.
aibophobia,
I hope you do realize that internet censorship is not a “conspiracy theory”. Two minutes of research will show you the moguls of the internet proudly boasting of their censorship, (and saying we need more).
It started with demonetizing videos on YouTube. Now it has moved on to more severe forms of sanctions for posting “inappropriate content” which is never defined. But it clearly means material the silicon valley lapdogs of the deep state find objectionable.
I peered at my phone at a quiet public place and began crying from stifled laughter when I read this. Made my week.. and it’s only Monday.
How I vividly recall the 2003 ABC freak show documentary “Living with Michael Jackson.”
Forgot to add, MJ saying in the documentary, “What’s wrong with sleeping with children?” or something close to that. Remember when MJ held his child, “Blanket” I believe, out a window 5 stories up? Yeah, a real freak show. A role model.
A scene in the documentary comes to mind of MJ on a million dollar shopping spree at a high end junk store in Los Vegas. MJ walking the aisles with the manger in tow, point to giant vaseand gaudy statues saying, “I’ll have two of those and three of those, five of these…” Couldn’t take my eyes off it.
IMO he was a genius, and a freak.
“Get ready for an official attempt to normalize pedastry …” — Jim
Oh, that’s been in the works for awhile now. And in certain circles the concept is gaining traction.
After Drag Queens and trannys have been successfully presented to us as perfectly normal and acceptable, indeed, in some ways superior, the horizon was scanned for new frontiers of the freakish and the bizarre. And after new abortion rules in Va and NY which fall just short of infanticide, what’ a little pedestary anyway ?
Brh
Darth Vader Ginsberg has publicly written she would lower the age of consent to 12. Would it be a first step in doing away with any limits?
A middle aged Muhammed married Ayeisha when she was 6, but waited until she was 9 to consummate the marriage. (what a prince).
Islamic Sharia law and Western left-wing politics: a new marriage of convenience? Women’s real rights are in danger and yet somehow the brain dead extremists cheered when the Supreme Court this week rejected excluding women from a national military draft.
I noticed today how the United States barely makes it into the 50th position worldwide in equal rights for women:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6768565/Only-SIX-countries-world-true-equal-rights-men-women-report-finds.html
MAG?? Not “again” apparently.
I see that report was produced by The World Bank. I prefer not to buy into what the globalists put out there.
I certainly hope that this light shining on the cockroaches is in fact signaling a turning away from debauchery Jim. Thank you for raising this subject, one that has remained in obscurity and denial for far too long now. As I posted last November, I attended a seminar given by our county government on the very subject of child molestation and sex slavery of women, especially the illegal immigrants being brought in to our nation. And we thought they were just for cheap labor and democratic votes! Now that white males are officially the cause of all of society’s evils, perhaps Michael Jackson, dead as he is, can be removed from the “Celebrity” pedestal and can join us white males in the Pit of Societal Hate.
It never ceases to amaze me, and sicken me as well, to see the celebrity worshipping public fall to their knees in awe and even offer up the souls of their own children to the satanic, demented scum bags. I thought it was bad enough that todays’ parents are selling out their kiddies to the lust for more cash, luxury automobiles, and exotic vacations, but to give them away as sex slaves is certainly the lowest of lows.
There is one critical question that needs to be answered on this subject and that is will Americans finally wake up and demand that this plague be flushed out or will they simply add it to the QRSTLMNOP movement as another acceptable lifestyle? If you think that is a ridiculous thought try googling NAMBLA.
I’ve come to believe that the Gays condemnation of NAMBLA was merely tactical: they were revealing too much too soon. The model is Hillary or Obama – against Gay Marriage and then one election later, for it.
As Charles Fort said, It’s steam engines when it’s steam engine time.
The entire Robert Kraft “prostitution” CF in Jupiter, Florida has waaay more to do about “human trafficking” than a hand/BJ for an Uber Rich senior citizen! “My Viagra!!! Who’s got my Viagra??!!”
But apparently this story has gone down the MSM “memory hole” along with Smollett, Epstein and Hillary’s email/Uranium One Russian Collision story.
And anyone wonders why Americans in droves do NOT trust the MSM for news?!
(Cough).
Well, since right-wing crazy seems to the the Special Order of the Day around here today, here’s my submission: “Michael Jackson was really a space-alien from Sirius sent to corrupt our precious bodily fluids and was only stopped by Donald Trump and the ghosts of John F. Kennedy and Saddam Hussein!” How was that? 😉
It’s hard to understand how you get ‘joining the ranks’ from my comment. I was quite clear that Hollywood is pedophilia on parade. Michael Jackson was a victim and like many victims they become perps. It’s also hard to understand why anyone would give this trash movie any attention. There are better things to write about James.
That comment is meant for our host. Apologies.
Cat-a-tonic you are not. But we wish you were.
Though also in the news is a list of over 4000 sexual abuse complaints against the immigration policy of children in while in custody and separated from their parents…somehow sounds “familier”!?
On CBS- Thousands-of-migrant-children-were-sexually-abused-in-u-s-custody
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/thousands-of-migrant-children-were-sexually-abused-in-u-s-custody-hhs-docs-say/?fbclid=IwAR0xJBQ1Pl2OeEorHFvqeYCGOWNZe6gjB8DldY6MwVon8Oiw4-Sxqqyuq-8&ftag=CNM-00-10aab6a&linkId=64101105
I was quite clear that Hollywood is pedophilia on parade.
That’s one reason I don’t like to watch TV or see movies anymore. The other is that show-biz peeps in general are just bad news, even when they’re not mixed up in kiddie-fiddling. I do miss the old “Star Trek” shows, though. (“Discovery” is just a wannabe!)
The search for “one-eyed Willy” from one of my favorite childhood movies has taken on an entirely new meaning.
It’s sick stuff.
I cannot agree Catcon, this subject is decades overdue for the spotlight and hopefully swift and vindictive correction. America has distracted and denied itself to sleep on this one and it goes all the way back to Barney Frank and the Boys Town crimes and well before that too I am sure:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/Franklin/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm
Why does this subject get the big “who gives a shit” from the American public? I think Jim has done a public service to get it back on the table.
Hi Walter B.,
I always enjoy reading your comments and one reason I stop by.
I thought why bother before clicking send on my comment this am. I predicted the reception. I tried to keep it short. I give our cultural destruction a lot of thought. I may go long a bit here. I would like to be understood and not summarily dismissed, particularly by our host, who I find can be an authoritarian know it all. Good thing he makes us laugh and think.
This community of readers is a farrago of dubious conclusions ad infinatum sometimes. And a whole hell of a lot of groupthink. People need some lessons in tolerating conversations they don’t agree with and not stooping to ad hominem attacks like some seem to find a way to show off their brilliance. You know who you are.
Children are being victimized under our noses all over not just at Neverland. Get it through your heads. This fn movie is just a distraction and giving pedophilia the floor. Putting the acts on display is a classic example of what abusers do. Feign they are doing something for the public good. I believe Moll Flanders was defended by Daniel Defoe in just this way, while going all early porn.
I wish this whole group would spend more time proposing solutions and debating their merits rather crowing on about how much smarter they are than everyone else. It is an impressive group of people not easy to find. Raise the quality of the convo. It’s kinda low. Sad.
Anyone who believed Michael Jackson’s story for five minutes is brain dead.
As stories go, his is no more unbelievable than most. I mean Walt Disney is still a saint, in spite of the fact that Walt Disney World is a known pedaphile haunt.
https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/41-disney-the-mouse-betrayed
The Catholic Church is still operating and viable in spite of the fact that it is almost singularly designed to encourage pedaphilia, exploit children, and buy their way out of it.
I tell you what Cat, I have spent my entire adult life working as hard as I could to promote the safety and the sanity of my own children and those of my community. As the local PTA president, the county PTA president, a Committeeman and the Mayor, I sponsored and worked events to give our children safe recreation and care, to educate our parents as how to be more responsive in our duties to the little ones, and have raised my own four daughters making whatever sacrifices it took to have one of us parents with them at all times as they grew and as they are growing up still. My two oldest are doing the same now with my four grandchildren and are even homeschooling them and doing a great job at it.
I may come here a lot and talk the talk, but I have walked the walk for decades and am proud to have been a good example for those around me. I reach out here and beg you all to do the same and not only talk about things, but to take an active role to do what is right. Thank you.
Yeah, and Kunstler is against business as usual so he’s speaking out. In some weird way, you seem for it – since you deem it not worth talking about.
No? Then you really need to check yourself in terms of your inner thoughts and feelings and then check your process (as to how you express these) to see if they are in synch.
Hi Walter B,
I can’t tell if I am replying to your comment in the correct location. Apologies if I am in someone’s pew..but I came back to say something that maybe can go for all.
There negative vibe and darkness all around us is increasing. It would be nice if the seriously thoughtful people here would attempt to be less fear based in the reflections on the situation we are all ion. I believe and there is plenty of physics to support that we create wave patterns with our thoughts. We can do better. We can give hope to each other.
Thanks for sharing a little window into your life. I never had a baby sitter. I get it. You give hope here Walter. There is a future. It will just be different.
The remainder deleted by Admin for sheer idiocy. — JHK
How much I would like to see this on my TV screen when I switch to CNN channel!
Think about that next time when you are about to hit the submit button on a 2000 word tome about 14th century Vatican doings.
Dog, you mixed me up with Akmofo. I don’t write about Vatican, I write about the War of the Roses. And not 14 century, but 15th.
Like there is no relation, well ETFOO Me!
I think Jim has it right. C’mon, tell me an adult male who sleeps in the same bed with children is an innocent. Anyone who truly believes that it is ok is an idiot – unless they are a troll with another agenda. Even if by some far-out chance nothing inappropriate happened, it is still wrong for a grown man to sleep with an unrelated child.
Yes, indeed, we’ve degenerated into an everything goes and nothing matters society.
I would take it a step further btb and will accuse anyone who accepts or even denies the demented practice of being one himself! This is one problem that the street cops should solve on the spot when they are caught in the act IMHO.
“I would take it a step further btb and will accuse anyone who accepts or even denies the demented practice of being one himself! This is one problem that the street cops should solve on the spot when they are caught in the act IMHO.”
…no comment….
Hi Walter,
To bring this back to JHK’s theme of The Long Emergency, topics like this one make me wonder if the craft of making rope by hand will be a sought-after skill once the machines shut down …
https://www.wikihow.com/Make-Rope
Had to wryly smile at one of the comment questions on that page:
Would any of these ropes be able to hold a person’s full body weight?
My guess is that proposition will be tested at some point.
Cheers
Lying eyes, I remember the lack of outrage and the easy acceptance with which the entire media industry and consequently the rest of America found Michael’s explanation sleeping with boys plausible. The breedlines I come from fortunately don’t allow me to be so stupid. An adult male who sleeps in the same bed with children is a freak and Michael celebrated being the King of Freak. Anatomy lessons could explain but another dog can do that if necessary. I’m not interested.
Most people cultivate being numb and dumb, other people embrace freakdom but over time we all become what our choices are. Depending on what our choices have been, acceptance of this fact comes easy or it is rejected in shrieking rage. It all depends on choices that were made. Choices shape and America has been a land of choices.
Gandhi used to sleep with young girls to test his self control. Some of his followers had to tell him it looked bad. Ah, the foibles of great men….
I’ve never heard of any accusations against him beyond that in regards to this. The really creepy aspect of him was his desire to treat everyone the same – in other words, not treat his children any better than any other kids. One of them became a Muslim to spite him. In any case, an inversion of the Dharma. Equal vision is an inner thing. You don’t treat a Lion like a house cat, no matter how much you admire it.
“Gandhi used to sleep with young girls to test his self control.”
Janos,
Well, he must have been a fucking Saint….
That Gandhi would use that as an excuse is equal to MJ suggesting that his sleeping with children was just sleeping and not “sleeping”. I wonder if Gandhi ever “passed” one of his “tests”….
I was born at night…but not LAST NIGHT….
No, he was for real. I bet he did pass this test. You underestimate human capacity – and in so doing, may say something about yourself. Or perhaps you are just trying to be light hearted and humble at the same time. I could sleep with a young girl and leave her alone. You couldn’t? Bet you could.
Janos,
Probably could…even with Salma Hayek and her snake…but to expect that I would serially “test” myself thus, or that he did, requires a tremendous leap of faith and an elevation of the personage beyond what would be considered rational. It falls into the realm of “…Really, Katurba, I can ‘splain everything!”
But! You might be on the right track…I remember in Oakland being tested daily in wanting to choke the life out of some asshole…I passed! Me and Ghandi…whoda thought?
Ghandi was by most accounts probably a decent guy. Me, not so much….
Funny, I would like a button like that on my remote!
The remainder deleted by Admin for sheer idiocy. — JHK
Love it!
A couple of years ago I watched a sceptical video on YT about Jackson’s case. He seemed to be on the receiving end of a move to squeeze money out of him. He was unusual all right, but not all that strange when compared with, say, the Democratic Party these days: AOC the Arch-Moron, Cory and his invisible friend T-Bone, Pocahontas and all the rest. JHK says the prosecution botched both of his trials. Both of them? Was he tried twice for the same thing or did trial no. 1 just give them the taste for more? I don’t know about his guilt or innocence. Has anyone here looked into it? I am getting tired of looking at this stuff as it is literally everywhere, and that is before you get onto Donald Trump!
Sure Sean. You KNOW he was innocent, just another victim of the Witch Hunt. As if there aren’t real witches…..
Janos, no, in this case I really do not know. I recall the video had some strong evidence that he was set up and others here have commented about the behaviour of the mothers involved. And a prosecution botching a court case not once but twice should set off a warning light in anyone’s head. But there is always the chance that there is one high-profile ‘abuse’ conviction that got it right. Tell you what, why don’t you look it up for us? Use the search box on your computer.
Same here.
Jackson was abused as a child. He could have become an abuser himself, no question, but it is also possible that he sought some kind of purely emotional connection with children. None of us know.
I found this interesting short (8mins) video on YT last night about a Canadian scam against him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djATfPg09lo
The Spirit of the Times – Dedicated to K-Dog.
There is such a good Masonic theory that the value of works of art is determined by their ability to express the spirit of the times.
And we are not talking about the ideology that sits in the artist’s head when he is painting, but Art as a sanctuary, which preserves the almost disappeared way of thinking, which many people call figurative, although according to science it would be more appropriate to call symbolic.
Unfortunately, all three Colored World Projects of the West declared symbolic thinking a sign of belonging to a superior race, and this term has now lost all meaning from such usage. Therefore, let it be figurative thinking, which, if not destroyed, then banished to the back of consciousness by analytical thinking in the West, and also in Russia, in the process of artistic creativity, sweeps an artist against his will and makes him feel the essence of the events around him, and it is this we for lack of a better term call the Spirit of the Times.
So, the day before yesterday, the Spotted Judas Gorbachev turned 88 years old and I suddenly realized that the spirit of the nineties, damned 90s, is expressed by this video, the ingenious author of which hardly agrees with me on this issue simply because he most likely does not understand – the 90s were blessed by the fact that Russia then pulled out of the clutches of the Spotted Judas in one piece.
But in 1988 it seemed to me that everything was over and there was no hope!
The song about my native city of Yekaterinburg:
Glorious City, Ancient City
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zngcf-4JKI0
P.S. Dog, I thought about you when I hit the submit button!
I once read the SPLC newsletter, listing all the ‘hate’ groups, and it seemed if you didn’t like them, you were a hater. End of argument.
Jackson was always a freak, and it was sad how in the 80’s he got away with all this, and it was perfectly obvious he was defective, but since he was black, made a lot of trashy, pop music, he was in. If you’re a pedophile priest, you can get slammed. A big Hollywood celeb.
The mothers of these sad children? Either bought off or just clueless, but so many people. Gov. Northam in Virginia did the Moonwalk, and almost reenacted it for the press. Or Jackson makes that goofy zombie/chiller video, and since we seem to have a subliminal love of zombies, he’s in.
Then, America always liked the minstrel show, and it only takes new forms, from rap, to Jackson to the latest Oscars.
It reminds me that the 80’s, for all the talk of a return to American values, were also a rotting out of America’s culture. Reagan offered a return to wealth, while the essential decline was left alone.
People have no right to say they were surprised Jackson was a pedo. it was so out in the open. It reminds me of Jim and Tammy Baker being caught with all their loot, and the church being outrages…hell, when you saw them on TV bragging about a gold plated phone or a new yacht, where did anyone think the money came from?
Like Gore Vidal said, to be American is to be continually surprised and forgetful.
Well said. “Values” means Money and an abdication of all restrains, both personal and legal, against the making of it by any and all means.
Last month Freddy Mercury, this month Michael Jackson. What’s on the menu for next month? Boy George? Maybe Allan Bloom had a point after all — up to a point, at least.
At least Mercury had genuine singing talent and consorted only with his own; his final AIDS death sentence proving to be one hard earned and well deserved. Jackson, on the other hand, malingered at least ten years beyond any semblance of social relevance, assuming he ever actually had any in the first place. The physician that finally put him down ended up providing a mercy killing service to all involved, none more so than the creepy gloved one himself.
Jacko was a very talented pop entertainer: singer, dancer, choreographer, and song writer too perhaps – not sure about the last.
I mean countless singers list him as an influence. He didn’t get where he was for nothing. If your tastes are above this level, I understand and respect that of course. Not that Mercury and his “YMCA” is high culture though….
Notably, Mercury tried to collaborate with Jackson in the late 80’s as he trued to broaden his musical palette, but concluded that Jacko was too weird even for him, bringing llamas into the studio, among other flourishes.
All the rest of the high camp he was known for aside, Mercury’s operatic voice alone set him far apart from the rest. Not too many singers before or since could possibly emulate him in that regard.
Funny how history is though. MJ was one year younger than me, so I lived through his entire career, and I honestly don’t remember him being that big of a deal at all, other than for the mid-80s when MTV videos offered him a new platform to strut his weirdness. Fortunately, music videos came and went and so did he.
Prince, pretty much the same story, although I only learned much later that his instrumental virtuosity, which for the most part he never strutted, was truly legendary. That man could lay down a guitar lick.
Price was overrated as a guitarist. Nowhere close to SRV. A lot of Prince was showmanship. If you watch his acclaimed lead in “While My Guitar Gently Weeps,” it’s not nearly as good as people think.
I play guitar. Prince was an incredible player, many would say a virtuoso. SRV, too. Showmanship wasn’t covering for a lack of anything.
I hate judging guitar playing, as it always ends up the same. People obsessed with technical skill downgrade the artistic component required to make good music and vice versa.
He was immensely talented. Sadly, he was also abused as a child. I have not seen the film JHK writes about, but, if I am honest, I always had a bit of sympathy for Jackson. Not if he actually did it tho.
These matters are incredibly complicated where childhood abuse is concerned. But there is never an excuse to become an abuser.
MJ was far more talented than Mercury.
But for both, it was their ****s that got them into trouble.
Perhaps explains the trend to cast away the biological delivery syringe of toxic masculinity.
I don’t know about that. I think Freddie Mercury was the greatest voice ever in rock and roll. Some say Plant, some say Morrison. Looking at the entire package-range, warmth, intensity, style, value, I think it’s Freddie Mercury. Michael Jackson was great in his own right, fabulous dancer, great songwriter, tremendous live show. I consider them equals.
YMCA was a song from the 1970s by a different group, not Queen.
Regarding Jacko’s talent I am sure he was very good indeed but it left me cold. I remember as a young teacher (about 1984) going to a party with a lot of my young colleagues. At one point in the proceedings everyone stopped talking to watch a video by him. I think it was Thriller. There was a lot of dancing in it. I was surprised that they all took it so seriously. This was out of my usual social circle, none of whom would have ever mentioned Jackson’s name.
Don’t ever change Sean. You are an Irish National Treasure. Do you have a shillelagh? Get one – a fighting one. We’re headed for shilellagh law.
https://www.oldeshillelagh.com/fighting-sticks
Saw a great Irish post apocalypse movie – One Hundred Mornings.
Phut, this week it might be convicted pedophile Michael Epstien, back in court in Florida. Names of his cohorts in crime may be named, and some of them are big, real big.
Brh
Like Bill Clinton and possibly Hillary – or even Trump.
It occurred to me that there are similarities between Michael Jackson and the 1 percenters with regards to the way they are treated by the public. It was pretty well known that MJ was a pedophile, and yet he was treated as a normal show business person and to his face, he was treated like any other star, or superstar. Thus, he continued to fuck little boys to his heart’s content, until his death. We treat our politicians and many of the movers and shakers the same way, ignoring their corruption and illegal acts, and allowing them to continue their behavior while pretending to be respectable, honest, moral people. Publicity is given to the wealthy when they attend charity galas, and other events, where they mingle and chat and pretend they are just like the rest of us, only they happen to have more money. Never mind that the greater part of their wealth comes from corrupting and influencing the people we send to the capitol to govern us. The blue collar middle class person has become a rare creature indeed, while these people bullshit them daily, and, like MJ, continue to screw us, with the willing assistance of part of our citizenry. If you take a neutral look at what’s going on, it’s just as easy to see the malfeasance in Wash. DC, as it was to see the crazy behavior of the Jim Jones believers. In a Democracy, you get the government you deserve, but remember, in Guiana, they lined up to drink the kool aid.
That much publicity, notoriety, adulation, and isolation simply has to result in psychopathy, even among the most well-adjusted, and Jackson, by all accounts, certainly wasn’t that.
We are pathologically bright-sided creatures. If there is a positive spin, we will take that, thank you. Please, nothing long form, I’ve only got 2 minutes to hear you out… If a person can sit through 2 hours of Mike Jackson’s sexual offenses, then I say where was the benefit? It accrues to an appetite, certainly. Righteousness, indignation, all proudly focused through the individual, and not abstract populations. The shadows are where the power lies. What kind of rube puts his mug on facebook?
The Times hides the women’s identities by showing photos of them turned away from the camera. All that can be gleaned is a heavy body mass index typical of Hispanic women of the modem age. I suppose a few will seem familiar to the middle class homeowner gazing at the help’s backside as their toilet is cleaned.
White men sit facing the cameras and describe their molestation. Raped central Americans turn their backs. The men’s presentation lends to empathy. Their individual stories mix with Jackson’s superstardom. We don’t learn about them so much as we expand our understanding of Jackson. And we update our own sense of moral assessment.
Quite so. Want to bring back ball buster Christian Culture and its public morality? Bet you don’t…..
Therefore we await the conquest by another Complete Culture that is not afraid to do what needs must be done. Probably Islam. Too religious or “extreme”. How about the Confucian (supposedly – actually Legalism as many Chinese scholars have admitted thru the ages) Morality of China? They’re not afraid to punish those who need punishin’ and kill those who need killin’.
Islam is provincial and mostly under attack these days. The prospective dominant culture hides in plain site but is in fact anti-cultural: the globalists. And yes, they’ve already more than demonstrated that they’re ready, willing, and able to “do whatever needs to be done.”
You give nation states, cultures, and ethnicities too much agency. They’re what’s under attack.
That’s what I just said. They’ve been adulterated and are thus easy pickens. The nascent Global Slave Masters have been weakening us for a very long time. When I said, do what must needs be done – I meant to save the Nation. Obviously the Globalists are killers but they have the opposite agenda.
Of course early Communism was all for degeneracy too. Who was it that said, “I want a Revolution I can dance to.”? But then they did a 180 since they wanted strength to keep the battle going. After the Revolution had succeeded that is. Might the Globalists not do the same?
Y’all don’t get that the only way to save this planet is to enslave everyone without a few billion in hand.
‘Cept you don’t call it enslavement. It’s government support, Netflix & chill, a mortgage and a college loan.
I don’t follow the most obvious news features because I anticipate exposure from other sources. For example, the Cohen testimony, or the Mike Jackson flick.
Instead, I stick to the lesser known journalism in the New York Times. The scintillating and titillating details are of a less lascivious nature. In this case, good old heterosexual depravity.
Law enforcement estimated 9,000 ($3 billion in revenue, see rubmaps) houses of human trafficking and prostitution known locally as the Asian massage parlor. They’re everywhere and you can get a handjob by a foreign woman here overstaying a tourist visa she anpaid exorbitant price for and will never earn enough from America’s joins to keep her pump from ever getting rid of her.
And in this morning’s New York Times, the beat of McAllen Texas, is the stories of migrants being moved from safe house to safe house and randomly drugged and taped, on their way to being the new age slave, the new second class citizen, the undocumented laborer. Question, how many safe houses? At least as many massage parlors. Real estate is making a killing in this industry.
Will the 150,000 bourgeoise Venezuelans in America get to stay through a special deal? Probably.
What do all these stories reveal? A country running on exploitation. Where the billionaire owner of the Patriots can buy a teenage girl after getting his garden salad picked, his luxury car fixed, his mansion roofed, and his hedges trimmed. And the simpleton middling class homeowner can get much the same
What started out as a replacement for chattel slavery in a single industry, agriculture, metastasized into other professions, building a wall throughout the society that the middling classes thought would represent their ascendance and virtue all in one. The wall on the border would be a symbol of that kind of wall, the perfect one that only exists in our minds.
Better question: why is all this exploitation, which has pretty much always existed for anyone currently alive, now being exposed in bombshell after bombshell, as if there’s some sort of epidemic of bad behavior and/or political agenda being played out? Hmm…
Kraft, in particular, strikes me as someone far too smart to ever get caught up in such an amateurish sex sting. People of his station are usually smart and discreet enough to know to have the sexual goods delivered to a secure site and negotiated and paid for by third parties not easily traced back to the buyer. That one seems just a tad bit too convenient for me to accept at face value.
“That one seems just a tad bit too convenient for me to accept at face value.”
Nick O Demus,
Well, sometimes we let the little head do the thinking…no?
True that, but Kraft didn’t get where he is so far by being stupid. What he’s alleged to have done – getting caught red-handed on camera soliciting sex – is particularly stupid. Either way, we’ll probably never know the actual truth of the matter, and in fact, shouldn’t even care. It’s a personal legal matter between him and the police who are charging him.
People are always knocking the little head for doing the thinking. My penis is actually very intelligent- a stable and erect genius.
Wolfie,
A flaccid argument….
Part of it has to do with the news velocity and timing. Editors approve stories and budget journalists- this field work and production schedule is time and money intensive. The work of fact checking and proofing is extensive vs. a typical numedia outlet. Timing is a factor, because attention and media space is limited. Trump didn’t rape any underlings over a barrel this week and no one launched nuclear missiles. This leaves oxygen in the room for other stories to breathe.
We, who read the New York Times hold the line. I am only re-reporting the news…. I am a rare species of old news activist, supporting the journalist-monk. The monk-advocate, laboring under a nom de guerre, for a lost cause…. a “panoptophiliac” they tried to diagnose me- but I scaled the wall and now survive off the consensus trance-inducing psycho-grid.
Make sure to include Trump and rape in a sentence, regardless of whether you have any evidence whatsoever that any such thing ever occurred.
It really helps your case.
Nightowl,
shameful to combine the word ‘rape’ and ‘trump’ in the same sentence.
Ever since he let one of the little monsters of his id loose on the public, I try to be careful about letting thoughts of him come into my mind at all.
I’m referring to the times when he let it be known he wished he could get away with boning his daughter.
The barrel and the rape were alliterative. Trump was very real-y in the sense that, from my vantage, I could only see him moving his hips and making pig noises.
That word you use. I do not think it means what you think it means.
A society that gave one damn about its morality and goodness would do whatever it took to stop the evil that is existing, build a wall, throw the Elite in the slammer when the are caught, put every available resource available to stop the trade, at all levels.
Obviously between the elite and also the rest of us, we do not give a damn.
That is why monsters like Jackson and Asia massage parlors do not survive, they flourish.
Yes, as Old Marse Robert said, Black slavery was terrible for ordinary White people.
The LBGTetc community has been trying to convince the public for generations that they are normal and society should be based on their lifestyles. They are ethnocentric just like everyone else. Their lifestyle is different. They can do whatever they want. But using the media, TV and movies, celebrities , teachers, scout leaders etc. to spread a deviant indoctrination is wrong IMHO. Children develop self identity sexually around 6-10 years old. With the weak parenting evident today, it is no wonder the kids are as confused as they are.
They are doing anything and everything to increase the number of their ranks and bio-science is doing its best to give them more and more options to do this. Much of the movement is about power and control and that is evidenced by the fact that acceptance by the herd was never enough for them. The need to dominate is strong in this movement.
Your concerns are completely unwarranted…. And dated. Homosexuality or BTQIAA+ “issues” are not a cause of any social problems and never were. The only problems ever created were from reactionary viewpoints like yours. You think you’re in possession of a consensus on human development… Believe it or not there is a science that informs a policy of leaving the kids alone in respect to their sexuality. “Strong” parenting is just old-fashioned hubris.
Kids need to be raised by the State as Marx said, in other words. Entertainment and public education are doing a good job of this. Any decent parent must shun both of these as the Devil’s work that they are. Shame on you for everything.
Parenting is bullshit. I agree with the Free-Rangers.
Kids should be given the right to vote, at least
“Parenting is bullshit. I agree with the Free-Rangers.
Kids should be given the right to vote, at least[.]”
Spoken like a teenager just before they ask to borrow the car for the evening.
You are correct, though. Science has repeatedly demonstrated that newborn humans, when left to their own devices without any bullshit parenting, grow up without any negative cultural influences and become fully enlightened adults effortlessly.
Oh, sorry. I was typing that with my head ensconced firmly in my ass. What I meant to say was that the newborn humans, without parenting, DIE. (For fuck sake, a newborn can’t even hold its own head up for the first three months.)
Apart from you being a craven politician seeking to curry favor with juveniles, why on earth would a rational adult think that kids should be giving the right to vote? What corresponding responsibility do they take on with the right to vote?
And what do you mean by kids, anyway? Teenagers? “Tweens”? Elementary school students? Newborns? Fetuses that have shown the proper documentation to be considered fully human?
Can we adults do better as parents? Most certainly, beyond a shadow of a doubt, yes yes yes. But a world of children running the show has already been envisioned. It’s called *Lord of the Flies.* No thanks.
Pay no heed to Little Dickey LR. He has serious mental issues and clearly dislikes children. Must have been dropped on his head as an infant, or worse.
Do you have a child? I suspect I know the answer.
“What corresponding responsibility do they take on with the right to vote?”
Giving kids the right to vote puts the responsibility on the adults, where it belongs.
It sounds clever, but it is moronic.
Debbie, any adult who uses the word ‘kids’ should lose his/her/its vote and pay a fine.
I don’t know Little Dickey, what kind of sex people have and who they choose to have it with is certainly no one’s business besides the consenting adults if you ask me. However, introducing kindergarten children to what kind of sex they may want to have some day and who they might want to have it with is damned right causing societal problems. If you deny this which I feel you certainly will, I can attest to the fact that this is actually being done in my school district and was taught to my two youngest daughters in kindergarten. It has created a clusterfuck of confused teenagers here and even my own 15 year old daughter has many conflicts within that she is having a very difficult time sorting out because of that. But I suppose if you are a sexual predator and your goal is to confuse young people so that you can take full advantage of them whilst they are still young and tender, well I see your logic. I will fight you to the end over that one.
So what happened in Kindergarten, and between then and 15 years later?
“Everything You Wanted to Know About Sex but were Afraid to Ask” is available at fine bookstores everywhere.
The Scouts are back, selling their cookies in front of the grocers’ front doors. Predictably their parents are right behind them hovering, you know, so they can earn their independence badges. A very fat man walking by said the words I wanted to say, “no thanks, don’t want any of that poison….” 65% of the population is diabetic or pre-diabetic and this is going to continue bending the life expectancy metric downward.
Parents will continue to put their kids out there, to face increasing wrath of the general public who get the wake up call from their doctors: systemic insulin resistance. Everything in the stores is loaded with sugar and we are fatter than ever, only now, that jiggle is getting morbid. Morbid enough for an adult to muster the nerve to tell a child they’re paying poison in public… Which is a good thing. There is a lot children should know about the world their society is indoctrinating them into. But first things first. Let’s shame the parents to their faces about the fucking cookies. Let’s deliver the real merit badges, the “I learned about America’s health crisis (and my role in it)” … To go along with “Neverland Ranch veteran”…
The Cookie craze is becoming a product of competition between the parents. Kids should sell their cookies, make a little money, learn a little about salesmanship, and not face the heavy competition we see today.
Nah, it’s all just bullshit. I don’t interpret any adult-sanctioned activity with kids today as virtuous in any way. Here, the mendacity is front and center. Fat kid, fat parent, fat customer, fat filled processed corporate food trough, addictive product, guilt and saccharine pitch. They are just selling themselves… Let’s be honest. This is just another big sloppy helping of hubris.
These kids have no economic status. They don’t have workers rights. They can’t compete with immigrants to mow lawns, even if that activity really built any skills or served a valuable public service. When I I was a kid I made money delivering papers. Today it’s an adult man or woman in a car, maybe a foreign national. The paper is a shadow of what it one was, but at least it doesn’t spike blood sugar. Maybe blood pressure.
These kids are just screwed and being exploited. Adults are full of shit.
The Girl Scouts fell to the Darkness long ago. They work assiduously to make them into little Feminists and haters.
Man-hating twats dressed in girl scout green. Only thing better is Catholic school blue.
” Only thing better is Catholic school blue”
Wolfie,
…and the patent leather shoe!!!!
I’ve paid attention all these years and knew Jackson was a perv. I have not and will not watch this show, it’s just voyeurism to me and as H. L. Mencken said, “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American people.” They’ll watch every lurid moment of this crap.
The moms deserve to be charged for aiding and abetting or for depraved indifference. Maybe the movie will impart to parents to not trust kids to celebs — or to priests for that matter.
I focus on the apparent concept that wealth is allowed to do anything, no matter how awful, that somehow they’re entitled, that they get a pass for their behavior and crimes. Screw the rich, their money makes NO difference, stop demurring to them, if they’re guilty LOCK THEM UP.
Why does Trump get a pass on the Stormy Daniels matter — because he’s rich? Because he’s white? If Obama paid off a hooker the yahoos in the GOP base would’ve marched on DC with pitchforks, nooses and flamethrowers.
I don’t know why Jim dragged the SPLC into this, they do good work tracking anti-semite and racial hate groups, persons and websites. If he had said the ACLU then I might have chuckled a bit.
If they can put Martha Stewart in prison a year for insider trading they can damned well put priests and celebrity pedophiles in the pokey for playing the hokey pokey with those helpless to fight back.
The SPLC slanders those who don’t agree with them. Whites have every right to advocate for their own interests just like any other group. Ditto Christians. Stop being a hater.
Using the word “hate” the way Jesus used the word “hate”, iow ‘to love less’, shows that it is a normal thing for us to love those closer to us, in any way, more than those further from us, in any way.
Every body does it.
Reminds me of the case of the Girl Gymnast-buggering Dr. Nasser.
In every case, over decades, the buggered girls would go home, and their parents only have a vague sense of something “not right”. The breakdown of communication throughout was truly remarkable, don’t you think? Where was the intimacy or the trust?
When these girls were paraded in front of him before sentencing, each giving their speeches about how terribly they had been treated, we all had a very public catharsis, which to me, was more troubling since it reaffirmed my belief, that in most cases,
1) No real intimate trust exists between teens and their parents
2) Young people are unable to effectively advocate for their own self-preservation (in respect to communicating or having anyone to relate to on their own behalf, about their own welfare)
Those kids, including the Jackson victims, all strike me as unable to evince any agency in respect to their own defense. I can map this on my own experience to some degree. There are things I probably would not have told my parents- for various fears. But that only confirms my hypothesis.
So how has our society created these ego-less creatures lacking the instinct to self-protection while simultaneously being so isolated? Developmental psychology says this is wholly the parent’s fault. As some point the kid learns there is a negative result in confiding with the parents. They quickly learn the key to avoiding unhappiness is never disappointing the adults- as parents, “educators”, or other figures of “authority”. This keeps them from ever expressing a negative reaction and results in the learned helplessness our society requires by the time they are nominally adults- they’ve gone through a hideous selection process perversely contrary to their self-interest or preservation.
In other words, what is perverse in these stories are the conspicuous amputation of a young person’s sense of agency and self-worth,
I don’t blame everything on human psychology though… If they were forced to spend 8 hours a day in school it was probably in a room where the carpet was treated with PFC-amended (Teflon) stain resistant carpets… breathing PBDEs in household dust, drinking Lead from the faucets, eating processed food containing huge amounts of synthetic pesticides and growth hormones, gulping lungfuls of diesel exhaust, and subjecting their eyeballs and brains to noxious ozone from the PCB-coated vinyls heating up to serve their electrical devices’ neuron-destroying cultural payloads.
Lil Debbie, thank you for a great discussion. You’re spot on about the lack of trust between kids and parents since many parents and/or authority figures initial response seems that of wanting to shoot the bearer of bad news, i.e., the kid who says someone did something to them.
Parents have their own learned helplessness along the lines of feeling they won’t be able to prove anything, or the authorities won’t bother with the case or they will blame the victim — especially girls (what did you do to provoke that man and/or what were you wearing and/or what were you doing out that late, etc).
In my own experience there was ZERO sex ed by my parents so one of my first paychecks went to buying a copy of “Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex But Were Afraid to Ask” by Dr. David Reuben. That book saved me a ton of misery, but nothing prepared me for any sort of abuse that could’ve happened; most of us learn about that stuff in the media. Some parents now teach ‘stranger danger’ but there’s a lot more risk than just strangers.
These crimes have always existed. The 24-hour news cycle needs to fill their air-time with stories and the more bombastic it is the better… give us dirty laundry.
Does anyone know if the mothers got any money out of Jackson? My guess is ‘yes’, but I don’t know anything about it.
The thinking class, as handmaid to the ruling oligarchy, is author to an impressive catalog of idiocy, much of which we see deployed in daily life and in business and government, doing the commonwealth enormous damage. If ONLY that were the only hurt they imposed. Much more serious is the hindrance they’ve inflicted to clarity and logic, replacing enlightenment with murk, fogging the easily accessible with obscurantist fiasco.
But maybe that’s the point of it all, solidifying academic and bureaucratic sinecures with impenetrable bullshit, true understanding of the emptiness, the nonsense, the – at best – pedestrian insights, fully known only after years of effort. When as a freshman you thought that Heidegger spouted gibberish, you weren’t wrong, your mind was unclouded. Only after years spent among the dreaming spires was your ability to think clearly fully impeded. Said Heidegger, intelligibility will be the death of philosophy. It seems that not only philosophers learnt the lesson.
So, you bet, wait for it, normalizing pederasty. They’ll find a way.
That won’t be the end of it, coming to a place near you, a court case that somehow finds laws against incest unconstitutional. The greatly intellectual among us, progressives all, will propound and expound, justifications will found, and if it won’t be quite legal, it won’t be quite criminal anymore either, outrages taking time to wind their way inside the frontier of acceptable behavior.
But even before pederasty we’ll see infanticide come within legal bounds, unrestricted abortion just a legislative speed-bump along the way. Compared to all this the common practices in much of the world of forced marriage, child-hood brides, genital mutilation, polygamy, all these are trifles to the unbound progressive, all easily justifiable within the context of multi-cultural diversity.
So, yeah, anything goes. And nothing matters until, that is, it does.
The New York Times did a review of underage marriages and came up with, something like 5,000 or 8,000 for the calendar year. Mostly in cultish religious settings-not the NYU philosophy department.
And it is in the pediatrics wards where genital mutilation is carried out, a tradition once again from the religious community (co-opted as a profitable service line item in medical practice).
Bob Kraft, indicted in the Florida human trafficking sting, frequented the company of unmentionably young girls in the sting.
Infanticide had a long history. The beginning of life was the start of a period of low odds of survival by today’s standards. For most of history a kid had maybe a 60% chance of survival to age 10. Deformed and crippled babies were left in the forest, the sea, buried alive, crushed with rocks. It wasn’t unreasonable to accept the notion that such an unfortunate state was the result of cursed providence, demonic influence, or hatred by God.
Humans are born premature, and have no real personality for quite some time, no ability to reflect, no formation of memory, etc., and so it does seem to some degree reasonable to allow for infanticide up to 2 months or so. But then again common sense compromised between our natural squeamishness and post-partum- the issue was left to women. It backslid under patriarchal and parochial abortion prohibition, and then regained ground with Roe v. Wade.
Birth-point was the best compromise but the Pro-life people weaseled their way back with the soft-pedaled ‘viability’ argument, which has now shed its sheep’s clothing into full-throated “Infanticide!” neo-narrative. But I don’t know what the Philosophy department thinks or discusses in terms of abortion. I suppose they discuss modalities of moral philosophy in respect to the question in
a sober and rational manner.
The chimp ended up at a psychiatric clinic for abused primates.
Like Chimp haven (chimphaven.org)
I actually believe we should be creating these safe spaces for all manner of folks who are willing to self-commit.
Bullshit. The chimp was in charge of security.
Wrong! The chimp resurfaced in at least one Nicki Minaj video. I heard he was paid well for his trouble. His cameo starts at like 1:16 or so.
Lol enjoy https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T6j4f8cHBIM
On speaking of the fathers of Jackson’s harem is the truism of our age, “an interesting preview of the current status of adult males in this land today: authority revoked.”
Trump is so hated and vilified because he is not influenced by name calling. He cannot be controlled in that manner, . . . but there are other ways. The male part of me wants to say that I don’t like black culture and talk of ho’s and gangstas, rap music and ebonics. That is not to say that on a one on one situation I hold them accountable for the culture’s violence, and yes, blacks are more violent than other races and cultures. I have lived in Chinatown and in Harlem, there are major differences in cultures, check their financial bottom line or ask any cop.
I am not comfortable with queers, male and female, and much less with people who straddle the gender fence. Do as you please, but don’t expect me to approve.
These ideas, I bet, are shared by a majority of people and they will not be shamed away. I do not wish harm on the people I’ve mentioned, they need to be protected by laws same as me, but not more, no special laws or privileges which merely exacerbate the situation. In this country, we are not white, black, gay, Mexican, etc. etc. we are Americans. At home we can be whatever we want that we hurt no one.
Was waiting for a bus. Black guy sitting on the bench. Stood far away from him. Other Whites came and stood far away from him. Wisdom. Such diversity is ruinous. Stop kidding yourself. Real happiness for us means separating from these elements.
Soccer championship match in Los Angeles some years ago. Mexico vs America. The Mexican “American” fans pelted the American team with bottles. They’re not going to assimilate. Why would they? As the Muslim song of the Subcontinent goes, “We took Karachi for a song and we’ll take Mumbai with a fight.” Something like that. Inexact quote. The Mexicans are getting quite a lot with their “song”.
When I first came to NYC from the mostly rural state of Maine having been totally indoctrinated into the poor abused and misused blacks at the hands of white people meme I was disavowed of those Ideas almost immediately when I went to a meeting in which there were both races. And guess what, I chose a seat with the white group. Cognitive dissonance! I who so wanted to do right by blacks was not even comfortable sitting among them!
NYC taught me to respect all races and cultures . . . if they are worthy of it and respectful in return.
what city were you traveling in?
NYC, the borough of Manhattan, and I wasn’t travelling I lived there many, many years
“Though the prosecution botched both of his trials…..”
Hmmmmm….I seem to recall another case involving another very high profile celebrity in which the prosecution botched the trial there in the LA Basin area.
Can’t quite remember the details…..I have a vision of an Asian looking judge who seemed to be advertising for Apple with his judiciously placed lap top during the whole trial….I have a memory of a lawyer who could rhyme…..oh and I’m also envisioning a white Ford Bronco for some reason…..and a SoCal surfer looking dude with a bad haircut….
As Chairman of the Board for an Alabama non-profit, I have had regular, but not close, interaction with the SPLC for 25 years. We send many of our international visitors there for their work with tolerance and justice issues. They do not deserve the slur that they will attack freedom of speech as hate speech.
As a 12 year old I played “smear the queer” with my neighbors. Was that hate speech? Is that hate speech now to mention it? When I was 12, the definition of queer was “odd” and the objective was tackling your buddy not making a political statement. My parents did not teach me this game, my friends did. Did they know what a “queer” was? I have no idea, I didn’t. Did I know 3 years later? Yes.
Where are we trying to go with identity politics? My Methodist church(worldwide-not just here in AL) has recently decided against approving gay clergy. I don’t agree with it but believe the church should be able to decide for itself. What else is freedom? Let me be clear–gay people are not normal–transgender less so. Normal means median and that means more than 50%. Accommodating diversity is a gift, not a requirement(a right). If deviance has a right then normality has an obligation. Personally I think everyone is bigger than this simplicity…
I am more interested in the implications of the Robert Kraft affair. Deviance doesn’t really interest me except as a general principle that it would be nice if fewer people were less so. I have heard the words “sex trafficking” for I suppose 10 years but didn’t know what exactly they meant. I thought it was a multimillionaires game of paying prostitutes to be escorts. But I note that it is organized crime with its tentacles all the way deep into the middle class, just like the drug trade. My town is doing well but the shadow of the future sends a shudder through me…
Wake up ffs.
https://youtu.be/vKXSmIPQvec
Why? All is well in my neck of the woods. You may begin evasive maneuvers…..
Sucking Jew cock has brought equanimity to many human turds over the millennia. Good luck with that.
Since Jews are all circumcised, does that mean there’s no drawback? Thank you, thank you very much, you’re too kind.
“gay people are not normal” – Under a normal distribution you’ll get 5% of the population at the tails which is approximately the proportion you see in the natural population vis a vis “pure” homosexuality, with dilutions approaching the 1st standard deviation. In other words, 95% are straight enough, and 68% solidly so, and there isn’t any reason to expect that distribution will change for any natural reason.
As far as the distribution of non-normal traits goes, gay isn’t so bad. Sociopathy at 1% is a real problem.
I personally don’t find the LGBTQIAA+ community to present any inordinate threat of any kind. At some point the wave of indignation activism will crest and roll back. Until then I expect we’ll all have to endure free speech.
RocketDoc
I got an interesting couple of replies from a poster on YT last week about sex trafficking. She said she had studied it for years and that the belief originated in the satanic abuse of a few decades ago and a belief that no woman would ever voluntarily sell her body. (I did not bring up the subject, by the way.) She said that 99% of the cases were really just teenage girls engaged in prostitution, voluntarily and on their own. I can dig out the replies if anyone is interested.
She had also heard of the Sudan case where a European charity was duped out of millions of Euro raised to buy the freedom of black slaves there. Everyone was in on the scam and the villagers who pretended to be slaves presumably got their cut too.
@Sean
Hollywood has been glorifying prostitution for a long time. Pretty Woman was at least 30 years ago. The opioid crisis is not helping. Nor is extending adolescence to 30. It strikes me that teenage self worth issues are mistakenly ameliorated by the choice to be paid well–for something that makes her “an adult”.
Haven’t seen the MJ doc yet, but sounds like a departure from current motifs in the genre. Some of us are sick of productions like Making of a Murderer, Serial, Paradise Lost trilogy, etc. which present murderers as victims, and manipulate audiences by intentionally leaving out essential inculpatory information. It fucks up the story!
This is shit that is just too stupid for words. Robert Kraft owner of the New England Patriots is arrested in a prostitution sting soliciting Asian women in a massage parlor for $100 or so dollars. The guy is worth 6.6 billion. He is also 77 years old. Let’s be generous and say he is till sexually active and will be until he is 85. That’s 8 more years, ~2900 days. He could buy a beauty pageant like Trump and pay maybe $25 million dollars and have a steady stream of the best pussy on earth. Then sell it for what he paid for it. Or he could go down to Tampa and buy Mon’s Venus and have someone else front it for him and have pussy coming out of his gills and be making money hand over fist. This man, worth 6.6 billion dollars, goes to an Asian massage parlor and pays $100 bucks for a hand job. Who believes this shit? Americans.
When it comes to men and sexual misconduct, absolutely nothing is outside the realm of possibility and you should know that. If DJT can do Stormy Daniels then Bob Kraft can get a happy ending from Suzie Wong. Besides, aren’t old white men the most evil creatures ever?
Thank you. For the conspiratorial I am never sure where the obvious ends and the illusory begins… “Those who always know better–51% more or less” -Wislawa Symborska
Nope.
All colors of men with lots of money are the most evil people.
That is because the justice system covers up for them. Money buys “justice” regardless of color.
And yes, there are power driven, sexual women that do the same.
And Bill Clinton could have had a different Escort Goddess every time he wanted – or a beautiful mistress. He chose instead poor pretty faced but dumpy Monica Lewinsky. That’s how some of these guys are.
What he really got off on was that only 5% of the $100 fee actually went to the woman.
We view the world through our own time line. That is, if it hasn’t occurred in my lifetime (so far), then it is of no concern to me. The other part is many suffer an acute case of constipation of the imagination. Example. We won’t ever run out of petroleum because it hasn’t happened and I cannot imagine it ever happening. Well by yiminey shit does happen and there is ample information available that says emphatically that the oil is finite and there will be a decline in availability and ultimately none. Granted. Do I care? Only in the sense that my progeny will live in a crappier world than we have now. They will compete for locations, jobs, security that will gradually disappear. Grandchildren are really screwed. But who cares? I will be long buried when things come to pass but come they will. Ah, but the scientists will come up with new technology and we will live like the Jetsons. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA…..my ass. We cannot even come up with a sure fire way to store spent nuclear fuel. There are dozens of Fukishimas around the country waiting to happen.
So why do I even write this? Because there are some serious dumbasses commenting here who like most democrats only see the world’s issues as being located between the throat and thighs. That is where the damn culture is focused. That is also where it will perish. Society is embracing a freak show because it is run by freaks. JHK is spot on in his observations but he remains a voice in the wilderness. The boundaries are gone. You can never reconstruct them. Our moral infrastructure is in far worse condition than the material one.
I would say “God help us” but I actually think a theologian I know is right in his belief that God has abandoned us to our own vomit.
I disagree respectfully. “The boundaries are gone. You can never reconstruct them.” Either we will reconstruct them ourselves or someone will do it for us. Hedonistic and sloppy societies are ephemeral and replaced by disciplined and organized societies. That is why human history is mostly that of tyranny and authoritarianism. We are but a blip on the screen in this regard.
I’m still waiting for bestiality to be normalized. People shouldn’t be so sheepish about it. It’s not nearly as Baa…d as people think.
I’m going to work up a rationale for infanticide and include the beastiality angle, I just need another 24 hours.
Wow, you have fallen so fast it is simply breathtaking.
What a beast.
Back around 1990 or so there was a joke making the rounds.
“Did you hear about the Michael Jackson sale down at K-Mart?”
“No. What’s on sale?”
“Boys’ Pants – Half-Off.”
This is a great joke. I’m not suggesting making a road show of college campuses with it….
Many would be female Marines can’t even do three pull ups. So much for equality. People are raving about teaching them to do pull ups now. Lol. Another idea is just to lower the standard to a fifteen second hang – a very different thing, but far more practical of course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2AGwrcqGXE
A day of reckoning will come for putting girls in combat roles in the Marine Corps and the Army.
In the savage combat that will mark 21st century warfare where the enemy does not recognize the niceties of the Geneva convention and vengeance is a prime directive most of them will be killed off quick, the survivors, POWs, the attractive ones, given to the officers, the not so attractive ones passed around amongst platoons of enlisted. Blonds will be at a premium.
I don’t believe human nature has changed all that much, that we are in a new age, that the brutality of a Somme or a Stalingrad is a relic of the past. No, I believe they are a harbinger of even worse things to come, waiting for us in the future.
brh
brh
But why ahsn’t it happened already?
“In 1917 Loretta Walsh became the first woman to enlist as a woman. A 1948 law made women a permanent part of the military services. In 1976, the first group of women were admitted into a U.S. military academy. Approximately 16% of the 2013 West Point class consisted of women.”
“There have been women in the United States Army since the Revolutionary War, and women continue to serve in it today. As of fiscal year 2014, women are approximately 14 percent of the active duty Army, 23 percent of the Army Reserve, and 16 percent of the Army National Guard. ”
“As of 2016, women make up 8% of all active enlisted Marines, and 7.5% of active Officers. These numbers give the Marine Corps the lowest ratio of women in all of the U.S military branches.”
They’ve been allowed in combat for 3 years now. When does the Old Testament hammer come down? Maybe in 10 years when their enlistment hits 51%?
Your time spans and percentages argue against women making up 51% of the Marine Corps in ten years. I bet it reaches 16.27% and falls from there.
BRH,
I knew a woman who served in the US Army in the first Persian Gulf War in 1991. Both the Syrians and Egyptians offered her commanding officer $50,000 to buy her. I suppose they intended to “pass her around”. No deal was made, but everyone got a good chuckle.
The fifteen second hang sounds fun :-). But hey, if you can fold towels faster than anyone else that should count for something because the military prizes neatness and organization.
You are a treasure. This should become a sport in the Olympics as video games will soon be. I’d love to see you win a gold medal folding in your heels.
I couldn’t imagine it any other way :-).
Serious French Catholics supported the Vichy regime, allied to National Socialist Germany. And later, supported Jean Le Pen. Hundreds of thousands of them were killed by the demonic Communists after the outbreak of “peace” after World War Two. Truly these are the French that Hitler was referring to when he said there were good men among the French.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtbMuEaRhp4
If you dont know the story of Patrick Chavis, you should.
Now that Macron has disgraced himself and the Yellow Vests are in an unforgiving mood Marine Le Pen may actually be able to win if she runs again.
“The fathers of these two boys come off as ciphers in the documentary. They seemingly had nothing to say about the insane goings-on, an interesting preview of the current status of adult males in this land today: authority revoked.”
I thought I read that both fathers killed themselves.
Perhaps the more interesting preview
The Vanity Fair story mentions 5 boys, 2 fathers killed themselves.
One was Mr Chandler, whose son left for Arizona with big bucks.
Entertainers seem to become Cult figures?
A preacher is akin to an entertainer, like a comedian, but rather than making the congregation laugh, he has to to put on a big show of Miracles. The Preacher is under huge pressure to deliver, like Michael Jackson, or Elvis. The Preacher has a bunch of deranged followers. If he’s a big Preacher, like Dr. King, then he has screaming fans. The women like him because he’s the Leader. Eventually, he starts screwing the Congregation.
Dr. King was raised in the segregated environment of Atlanta, Georgia. He deemed Segregation a “Great Evil” and a form of Neo-Slavery. But what did Dr. King know about living with white people? Would Dr. King really want to live with White People? Hell, I’m a White Bloke, and I can’t live with White People. White People are too Fucking crazy for me. Would Dr. King really want to have to perform Miracles for a Congregation of Deranged White People? It’s curious that Malcom X and the Black Power Black Nationalists did not want Integration. They didn’t buy into this Cumbayah “Ebony-and-Ivory” Universal Brotherhood rubbish. Dr. King had read Plato. Dr. King knew that Man’s fundamental existential reality is “War”. You can’t just shout from the pulpit “We either live together as Brothers, or we die together as Fools!” and then human relationships Miraculously Change. Get Real…. It all gravitates towards ugly Coercion, and Political Correctness. Life is Tragic….
You’re right, he had it easy. Preachin’ to White folk through the television ain’t the same thing.
Are you sure White people are too crazy for you, or are you too crazy for White people? I bet you are sportin dreadlocks for one :-). Don’t be afraid of your Whiteness. Learn to love it.
A big part of American black culture is Entertainment, right? The blacks are big entertainers? Even the black Preachers know how to put on a great show. But then the audience or congregation conflates the unreality of the Show with the Power of the Entertainer who they identify with as the Cult Leader? Weird….
The women sense the Power of the Entertainer, or Cult Leader, and then strip off their “Purdy Pink Panties” for him.
Lol your thoughts tend to lead to the same place when preachers and cult leaders are on your mind :-).
Yes, the point of his Pentagram is pointed down, creating the Devil’s horns. All that rises must converge and all that sinks must separate ultimately, but boy are they good at organizing on the way down….
That is a very interesting point and way of seeing it. All that rises must converge….like water vapor into clouds.
Directing the commentary back to the subject at hand I would like to add that I just watched a short CBS (Criminals Broadcasting Shit) interview with the director of this film and it is worth watching for anyone out there that cares:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPdTmWwK8Rs
What is painfully obvious in this video is the vigor with which the team of deniers attack Mr. Reed claiming that he was not objective because he did not include any commentary in his movie from MJ’s lawyers or family (yuk fucking yuk). Am I the only one that finds it so disturbing that when this subject is raised and a celebrity pervert is accused, the MSM rushes to the defense of the accused, every single time and goes out of its way to make the accusers look like the bad guys? Sure, if it was me or K-Dog or Janos they would hoist us high with a mere accusation, but one of their own? Never. Neverland, what a concept.
I noticed too that they were uncomfortable with him and he was uncomfortable with them. He looked perturbed at the very end of the clip. It is very believable that the truth about something like this is kept secret for many years. The effects of trauma bonding can be almost impossible to break so it would come as no surprise if victims felt more comfortable speaking now that MJ has passed away.
This sheeet is serious and a mere accusation should damn nobody. But it is not comparable because there is no one mere accusation. Multiple accusations are a thinking-mans game changer. I’ll howl at a Bayesian Moon. Multiple accusations reduce the chance of error in a very big-O fashion. I mean that in the computer science sense and not what you are thinking. But a Bayesian analysis is moot. Some of us knew he was a pervert all along.
The MSM rushing is one thing but people who wear big dog pants also have PR people to stir the pot their way. Ask Cohen. He will talk for hours about it. Me, I’ve observed the process.
“They took the idols and smashed them, the Cosbys, the Spaceys, the Jacksons. And who’ve we got now? Some nobodies!”
-N. Desmond
Pretty poor choice of idols if you ask me….
I believe this line reveals how the reality of throw-away “idol” status is lost on Ms. Desmond.
The tragedy in believing in her own myth.
The madness of it all.
Most idols are not worthy of the adoration and praise they receive. True idols are very few and far between.
Well, we still have Billy Idol.
Is he still rockin’, I dont know?
Must be getting up there in age but who isn?
Brh
The internet said that Billy Idol passed away back in February Brh. But he lives!!!
Don McLean correctly stated in his lamentation “American Pie” that the premature death by plane crash of Buddy Holly was “the day the music died”.After that event came the Flower Power era replete with LSD and other drugs, gurus and New Age mysticism, free love and a mantra of “if it feels good do it” or, better yet, as Jim frequnetly entones “anything goes, nothing matters”.
IMHO The 60’s and 70’s weren’t an awakening, they were a Darkening (of the soul). Makes you wonder who was behind it all. Did some beatnik invent LSD? Nope! It was those good ole scentists at the CIA.
BTW, the Flower Power era actually started in Southern California’s Laural Canyon where Hollywood’s Young Turks, such as Dennis hopper, Warrem Beatty, Peter and Jane Fonda, hung out with the revolutionary musicians, such as Jim Morrison, Stephen Stills, Mama Cass, John Phillips, Frank Zappa, David Crosby along with a man, named Charles Manson (a prophet many in Hollywood called him) and his commune.Fun Fact: Jim Morrison’s father was the Fleet Admiral commanding the destroyers fictitiousally attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin false flag event. Why weren’t any of these actors or musicians drafted into the military? Were they under the auspices of someone?
In the middle of Laural Canyon during the heyday of this Peace Love Dope hullabaloo, sat a scret military installation named Lookout Mountain Military Base. They supposedly had more advanced video recording equipment than the neighboring Hollywood studios.
I believe Hollywood is one of the CIA’s Wurlitzers. They, at the behest of the oligarchy, have convinced or brainwashed a majorityi nto believing morality and decency take a backseat to pleasure. That it is acceptable to use fellow human beings to get your needs met. As stated by Dave McGowan “We have been reduced to a nation of frightened and disempowered individuals, each existing in our own little sphere of isolation and fear”.
When will we realize that Hollywood and the MSM are liars and don’t have our best interest in mind?
I’ve done a tremendous amount of research into many of these same topics and you have hit a number of high notes here. First of all American Pie is the long-playing album. Few people remember what an event an album release was, especially by one of the supergroups. There really is nothing to compare it to anymore. Secondly, a long long time ago was when President McKinley was assassinated in the Temple of Music. This essentially launched the American Empire. The famous slow part was about JFK’s assassination. The three men I admire most the father son and the holy ghost. Joe Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy, and John Kennedy. Also in there was the Greatest Game ever played, the national title game between Texas and Arkansas. It was the last major college football game where every player on both teams was white. The weekend of that game the Stones played Altamont and Charles Manson was arrested. The Jester was Richard Nixon, who was in the stands with the cast George HW Bush, Winthrop Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger. Kent State was in there, the Marching Band refused to yield. Another little known fact “Hotel California” is about the Manson murders.
“… and Charles Manson was arrested.”
Don Maclean got arrested too a few years ago in Maine for slapping around his wife.
brh
BEWARE the Ides of March.
http://www.got-truth.com/docs/BEWARE%20the%20Ides%20of%20March%20too.pdf
#oathkeepers
Q.
You are a strange creature seawolf. Sometimes you are a foul mouthed miscreant and sometimes you are a deep thinking intelligence searcher with a good eye for the truth. I have not met anyone quite like you on the internet before and I must say that at least as far as I am concerned, I see much value in so much that you have to say that I have to admit that I look forward to what you have to say next time.
Be well.
I suspect it all has to do with whether he’s hitting the bottle.
Is there such a thing as a Gay Drunk? It’s said that King James the First (the sixth of Scotland I believe) liked to drink and would become amorous with young men once intoxicated. A fine man in some ways: Once he struck a servant in anger and then fell to his knees in shame. He would not rise until the servant forgave him. Such humility is very rare in the high born. An exalted soul.
I did not know that about James I; although everyone knows his father was gay as a goose.
A lengthy explanation of the genesis of “Hotel California”. No mention of Manson.
https://www.songfacts.com/facts/eagles/hotel-california
Here’s one take on it.
http://thordoggie.blogspot.com/2009/08/welcome-to-hotel-charlie-manson-due-to.html
Thanks for the shoutout seawolf and thanks for your insights concerning the “American Pie” lyrics. I definitely feel enlightened. Unbelievable song!
Concering Kent State, Bill Schroeder, one of the students who was murdered at Kent State, had attended the Colorado School of Mines, the year before I did in 1969 . Students that knew him told me that he became homesick and transfered to KSU back in his home state. He was an Eagle Scout, on a ROTC scholarship, straight A student in psychology, who was shot through the chest while on his way to an early afternoon class by the Ohio National Guard, which was comprised of many scared kids the same age as Bill. The fault lied with Governor Rhodes and the KSU administration because they didn’t close the campus after the initial riots, days before, where the ROTC building was burned down. Many of the rioters weren’t students but were instead instigators. Where have we seen that before? Shortlly thereafter, a majority of Americns (58% in Gallup) thought the murdered students were at fault and had it coming. Our MSM was hard at work for their masters back then just as they are now.
Death of a strong nation by a thousand cuts!.
Call out the instigators.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOdEgj81cxE&list=PLl55Zh3U2VW7YD-JKHT0vYIk1ZCrK7c4-&index=13&t=0s
#oathkeepers
Q.
The jester was Bob Dylan. I know because I was there.
where were you ?????
OK, so what was the “coat he borrowed from James Dean” ?
James Dean was a rebel (Rebel Without a Cause). Bob Dylan was a counterculture icon of the ‘60’s – a rebel. Hence, “in a coat he borrowed from James Dean” meant Dylan assumed the mantle of James Dean in the 1960’s, as Dean was the primo anti-establishment bad boy of the ‘50’s. Dean
When the jester sang for the king and queen
In a coat he borrowed from James Dean
And a voice that came from you and me
Oh and while the king was looking down
The jester stole his thorny crown
The courtroom was adjourned
No verdict was returned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCsGSMze_6Q
Only portrait of president looking down
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/john-f-kennedy-official-portrait-1518725958.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/a18197437/president-kennedy-official-portrait/&h=3000&w=2029&tbnid=TokU33N_YDhIEM&q=kennedy+portrait+white+house&tbnh=150&tbnw=101&usg=AI4_-kQMXrF1eaDey6HEC96jpknWEXymLQ&vet=1&docid=rrg0hSnfLaqfSM&itg=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwijyKzis-vgAhVE94MKHY5cARgQ_h0wDXoECAQQBA
The Warren Commission- no verdict was returned
I think I met the producer of that album. He was a photographer, as of the 00s.
And Ms Fonda looked thru the sights of a gun used to kill American men and smiled.
Can you blame her? What did the Vietnamese ever do to us to deserve all the death from the skies and agent orange dumped on them?
I agree with you there. Not her traitor behavior. But what the hell was the mission at the end of the day?
“Can you blame her?”
Evelyn,
…Yes….
I’ve forgiven Joan Baez her transgressions, but not Fonda.
A good thing Jane doesn’t know you feel that way, it would ruin her day.
Evelyn,
…how do you know she does not read CFN? Maybe she is a BIG fan?
Yes, I can blame her.
One more disgusting elitist. I once saw Tom Hayden driving very unsafely.
DO AS WE SAY, NOT AS WE DO.
I can understand your point but if Tom hadn’t driven that way then would you feel worse about all the innocent Vietnamese peasants whose lives were ruthlessly ruined by Lyndon Johnsen’s infliction of the US military on their lives to prevent future Vietnamese from playing dominos?
Oh but Lyndon Johnson was just a good Globalist engaged in the humanitarian act of “nation building”, which always seems to involve dropping a lot of bombs on people.
Win or lose, the result is we need to buy more bombs. And does that make defense contractors smile. Oh yes. Do defense contractors give a lot of money to politicians. Oh yes. Is there a connection? Certainly not! Don’t be an absurd conspiracy theorist!
Isn’t the existing social and de jure prohibition on pedophilia akin to racial segregation?
If Dr. King were alive today, would he March for Pederasty?
Would he march to free a blind Bill Cosby from prison?
Silly question, although some maniacs would probably make the comparison and believe it too! But unfortunately pedophilia is more widespread than most people think, and has been both now and in the past.
You might want to try the MK Ultra preaching of ‘Games People Play’ by Eric Berne of the rather dry and obvious pseudo science of transactional analysis. He died of a heart attack aged 60, probably suicided. The alphabet agencies tend to shoot the messengers – a dead man tells no tales! He espoused categorizing humans into 1. Parent 2. Adult 3. Child – brilliant – that’s not generally known. He further advocated ‘listening’ as a doctrine of conversation. Again, I am floored by this insight. Berne overlooked certain categories of HB’s, [human beings] ie old folks, teens and infants. It seems to me any reasonable spectrum of HB’s ought to include them. He could have expanded his fake presumptions and really impressed the spooks,and who needs to be told to listen to bullshit. To save yourselves and to begin shutting down the mind control – do not listen to the abject insanity permeating the media, otherwise a steady diet of nausea will continue to be your lot. By the way, you might also try to figure out if His Majesty King Donald is really an old man, infantile or something in-between. Good luck with that.
The New York Times is a physical newspaper, and even if you listen closely, nothing will happen. No mind control.
The New York Times, $3, available at any Starbucks coffee shop.
The NYT never met a war they didnt like. They deep sixed Chris Hedges when he wouldn’t go with the flow. Where are those WMD’s anyway?
Snacks, can one get the ‘National Enquirer’ at Starbucks, too?
brh
The National Enquirer is just as informative.
And more fun to read, too
Absolutely :-)!!!
America finally returned to space with the most advanced manned capsule ever built, and the NYT decided to run with… can you guess?… wait for it… wait for it…
Trump bashing.
Are you talking about Elon Musk?
Don’t take it so hard. The Chinese operation where even Pink Floyd has never been doesn’t get much attention either.
Besides a little more technology news compared to dealing with a world wrecker hardly deserves precedence.
The bullet holes in our feet thanks to the economic damage he brought upon us with his Don Quixote style of trade negotiations should come even before our sorrowfully small steps towards getting back into the space game.
Do you really think we should crow about the *future* possibility of no longer have to rely on Russia to deliver boxes of mac & cheese to whoever they’ve kindly offered to house in the Int’l space station for us?
>>> Do you really think we should crow about the *future* possibility of no longer have to rely on Russia to deliver boxes of mac & cheese to whoever they’ve kindly offered to house in the Int’l space station for us?
Not at all. But I think the NYT could take a one-news-cycle break from their busy schedule of Trump bashing to report a significant achievement that is non-partisan. At least I think it’s non-partisan. I haven’t heard the Left label space exploration as racist yet.
Oops. Spoke too soon.
Wait a minute, didn’t we go to the moon 50 years ago. Now we’re sucking each other’s dicks getting into LEO? I read this novel. “Diminishing Expectations.”
People with massive wealth, fame, and fan swarms can dangle 9 month old babies over balconies to the glee of faithful and adoring worshippers. An ordinary person doing such things would face the police and child services. More proof that anything really does go for SOME people.
Eminem later mocked Michael Jackson by dangling a doll from a hotel balcony. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XKjdco2FSM
That was funny :-). And of course Eminem was found guilty of high crimes and homophobia but received blessings from Sir Elton John and is now on a path to bliss after much apology…and butt kissing lol.
Just like Paris Hilton. This seems to be his role – some kind of Priest for famous Hetero-Retards who don’t bow to the coming Queer Nation.
Lately Janos, no matter the topic of discussion, you steer it over to the “gay issue”. Are you trying to tell us something?
Giordano Bruno and Quentin Tarantino
As is well known, Giordano Bruno was burned at the stake not for astronomy, but for the theory of witchcraft, in which sex was the main potion, and the main Sorcerer was someone with the moniker “The Great Manipulator”.
I remembered this because after Trump’s victory I met couple of guys wanted to use my articles about Bastinda, the Great and Terrible, for the female version of Omen 4 script.
According to them, they had been working for Harvey Weinstein and after his arrest the plans hit the copper pan with a bang.
And yesterday, I ran into a friend who works for Tarantino and it turned out that the theme of Omen-4 was really discussed then with Weinstein in conjunction with the Great Manipulator and the meeting of Tarantino with Fergie Duhamel.
The most interesting thing is that at about the same time I, too, can be said to have fallen in love with Fergie, completely unaware of her relationship with my beloved Tarantino.
And I found out about it only now and I finally realized why his work has changed so much and who today the Great Manipulator is. Moreover, I am going to write a post about the changes in the work of Tarantino and Weinstein, which were the result of this meeting. I will even watch movies that make me sick.
This information is related to the clips of the aforementioned Fergie Duhamel, which allows you to see for yourself that she really is sex incarnated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=tf_gPZSDIxI
You old name dropper, you!
Sex incarnated? Not so much. Looks like just another bottle blond with too much makeup to me.
She’s got a look to her but would want to see her without make-up. Better be good to make up for being such a boney little thing.
“This year 2019 — and especially the coming springtime — promises to be a time of spectacular reversals in politics, manners, and markets.”
Let’s see. Pitchfork. Check. .38 with 1000 rounds. Check. Rusty knife for castrating child molesters and assorted supporters thereof. Check. And double check.
It sounds like you are ready to rumble :-). I say lets get this show on the road!!
I am so ready. The Left, the Deep State, The Looney tunes want a fight. I say let’s give it to them. There’s really no avoiding it. It’s going to happen, one way or another. It always does. So I say let’s give it to them, as our forefathers did.
.38? Don’t you want to reach out and touch someone? Marlin, help this man! Teach him to love!
.38 too messy? I can be merciful. How about the old giant pendulum blade routine where we strap, say, Hilary or Nancy to a table as the blade swings downward, ever closer to cut her mid torso. But wait!!!! Just in the nick of time, a band of mustached munchkins dressed in tutus and earrings from a Hollywood movie set come in and save the, uh, “distressed” heroine….Not.
Too messy? Hell no. Range, my man, range. It’s the long rifles that are gonna save us when the gangers come in packin’ their uzis.
As I read this piece – I won’t see the film because I’ve thought Jackson was a kiddie diddler ever since I learned he shared his bed with children not his own – this old saw appeared in my thoughts – Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
~~~~~Happy Mardi Gras!!!!!~~~~~
The fun ends at midnight. Then it’s ashes and penance.
Yes, forty days and nights of penance. It couldn’t have come at a better time.
In regards to Quentin Tarantino – I can’t help myself but recommend you my post from February 21, 2018, about Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton and Tarantino’s movie “Kill Bill”.
But rather than re-posting the whole thing, I just put a reference to it, which Ozone, with his inherent verbal grace, calls a “self-referential shit” – I find that rather amusing, isn’t why the hyperlinks were invented in the first place?
http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/thirteen-russians-ands-ham-sandwich/#comment-339624
It looks like our spring chicken may be getting into a bit o’ trouble just in time for spring!?…..But I want my boyfriend to have a congressional email account too…just so he can see my busy calendar ya know!!!….
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/04/federal-election-commission-complaint-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-aide-hid-1m/
It is not amazing that Hollywood and the MSM are ambivalent to promoting the deviance present openly now in our society. Both institutions are comprised of people who are the deviants.
Why is California such a sink for deviants? Because way back n the 60’s, California promoted itself through Hollywood and the recording industry as Eden for these folks. Is it so surprising that it is so Liberal today, it is a Mecca for deviants and Liberals “give them permission”. It is shocking to see what a large percentage of these folks exist now that all the closet doors have opened, but that is a subject for another day.
For folks that believe in normalcy for the cultural standard, you better hope the Electoral College never gets eliminated. We may already be outnumbered by the coastal freak shows.
Why is California such a sink for deviants?
Blame the anti-Communist and anti-Semitic Pogrom of the Hollywood that Senator McCarthy arranged in the 1950s.
Those things have consequences, you know.
Think about the fact that the US majority of folks may be deviant, where did all these people come from? Why the big upsurge in the population? Is the US parental ambivalence on sexual identification the root cause? Does environment have a major impact on people’s sexual self image? Maybe it is more important than the generics.
It burns me to hear parents declare they want their kids to be sexually fluid. WTF! If our job as parents is not to raise mentally and emotionally competent adults, what is it?
BTW, I wonder if a lot of the deviance is not coming from the college campus. Another magnet like California.
John it starts in pre-school if you aren’t paying attention and its also achieved through messaging in cartoons, children’s shows, etc. It is EXTRAORDINARILY tedious to be a parent nowadays because you literally have to screen EVERYTHING for the propaganda and you have to start educating children early as to what they face.
Yes, the man who stuck his neck out to fight Jewish Communist perversion and subversion (and lost) is to blame for the modern Gomorrah we are experiencing. Makes perfect sense.
As it happens, if McCarthy had been screened himself, his own drink problems and sexual preferences would have resulted in him being put on the black list.
And the man who writes about him now is a sick scumbag
How about the media cover up of,
[not to say other crisis’s arent ignored, but lets start with]
– opioid crisis
– antifa violence
– corporate suppression of free speech
– Israel War crimes and spying
No sickness here, but it is comical how you and yours try to gaslight and pathologize other people’s perspectives, however valid and natural. It’s the raison d’etre of the ADL, the SPLC, etc.
This is the sickness: https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-gaza-protests-idf-troops-aim-for-the-legs/
This is the sickness: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9ScGZCqEyGM
How about the media cover-up of Trump’s comb-over? I swear by the end of his presidency one hair will cover that whole dome, in a swirly curly Q of immovable hair-sprayed stiffness.
There is an effort underway to make the Electoral College irrelevant. Various states are passing laws that require that their Electors vote for the candidate that wins the popular vote. It is called the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact and of the course the blue states are pushing it.
This effort, plus the unlimited flow of migrants that can quickly obtain the ability to vote will ensure that a pro-American, conservative candidate will never win another national election.
SSL
Not to worry, They will have to get this past the Supreme Court. On the federal level, election changes will have to be done by amending the Constitution. Never happen. This one will be defeated in court.
The states have no say on how the election is run for federal office. Everyone of the Electoral College groups representing these states will be challenged. Just like they were in 2016, by the Dems.
Ah ok, I didn’t know that it would be something that could be fought in court. Good thing then because us flyover deplorables would definitely lose our voice.
I hope I am right. A uniparty situation will occur in the country with the coasts runnng the show. What a screwed up mess that will be.
Uniparty control will end up as a dictatorship.
Illiegal immigration and illegals voting puts control with the socialists. Pray someone has the cojones to fight this abrogation of the Founding Fathers aims for the power of one party.
This IS dangerous and worth fighting a civil war over.
I believe it is worth fighting over too! Like I said before, I am tired of us getting run over every day.
Too much to wish for. The whole world would be a better place if you all had to wear ball gags.
Dayum Evelyn I bet you do get a kick out of that imagery dancing through your imagination.
Not the imagery so much but the wonderful absence of ugly sounds.
I like the Occult, but only White Magic. And shorn of Religion, it does tend downwards because of man’s fallen nature. As Elphias Levi said, “High Magic is for Kings. Are you a King?”.
Christianity is very narrow, a straight path. But that’s good because most people who wander of the path to pick daisies end up getting lost, enslaved, or eaten.
You’re right. It isn’t good to wander off of familiar paths or to go in a direction one has been warned against. Because of our fallen nature we do best when we strive for the better. And hopefully we can avoid getting lost, enslaved or eaten.
There’s no such thing as white and black magic. All magic is fundamentally derived from blood magic i.e. blood sacrifice.
What ever comes after that is magic. As Crowley pointed out many times, it’s all about interpretations as to what is good or bad, black and white..
Wait a second though. There is magic besides blood magic. Sure the blood is powerful and potent. But it is not necessary. Blood magic is binding and can’t be undone.
Beware of the Birthstrike!!!
https://www.wnd.com/2019/03/too-scared-to-have-children-women-go-on-birthstrike/
And this to go along with the idea that a baby must seek consent to reside in your womb….as the Muslims (and others) with their broods laugh and eagerly await their future ascent.
A modern take on Aristophones play ‘Lysistrate’?
Like it says in Eclesiastes ‘theres nothing new under the sun’.
Brh
Yep, I guess you are right. Same old games in some ways :-). Sort of like putting you out in the dog house or on the couch for bad behavior lol. But the insanity of this in my mind is simply making a decision based on what “experts” say, while others aren’t listening and will not participate. So you are just committing cultural suicide. And I think it is intentional in that regard because only silly Westerners are going to do this.
And the naysayers say that you never have good posts. In all Israel I have not found such Wisdom.
They don’t understand me like you do. And the truth is often very difficult to confront. So much so that many people prefer fiction.
The New York Times reports 2,200 migrants crossing the 1,900 mile border per day this morning.
Yep – the plan to replace and destroy is working just fine despite the will of the people. NYT is happy!
Right!
Are you in the mood today to do something about it? You said you wanted to deport 40 million. Where is Captain Planet? I want him around.
That is 3/4 of a million per year. With California , New Jersey and New York giving them illegal voting rights. It does not take much arithmetic to realize that the US is on the verge of a revolution against the Constitution from within.
Rand Paul voting against the Emergency is a travesty. These stupid RINOs will be looking from the outside very soon as the Progressive takeover occurs. And they will deserve it.
People don’t bother thinking about the future and the fact that actions have consequences. I blame this attitude on two things: Historically, life was hard and getting through the day was an achievement that left little energy to contemplate the future; and the 1960’s attitude as exemplified by the Grass Roots’ song “Let’s Live for Today” (one of my favorites).
I’ve put a lot of energy in focusing on the present, but I’d like to think I’m wise enough such that I allocate a portion of my mental energy to thinking about where we’re going, as well as where we are. This is probably why I frequent this website.
Jon, it’s been game over for some time now.
When you have a country not worth caring about, sooner rather than later, you’re left without one.
We didn’t make this bed, and we don’t have to lie in it.
Yet we will.
Beacause we’re far too lazy and unmotivated to do anything about it or to move on from it.
Yelling on the internet helps
It’s called capitulation, and everyone voted for it.
Speak for yourself.
The New Republic is thriving.
The best way to predict the future is to design it.
http://www.got-truth.com/docs/The%20moral%20arc%20of%20the%20Universe.pdf
#oathkeepers
Q.
Like a bad rash.
You need to live outside your head, or at least take a peek
Did they count them individually?
Any news yet on which way they were going? Does it include commuters with legal papers?
Hopefully it will be enough to keep all the lawns mowed, the stinky toilets cleaned. I mean, besides keeping the fresh fruit and vegetable available for the porky pink folks who like to include them with their greasy cheesy hamburgers and milkshakes.
Actually, it’s likely one more unintended consequence that the orange blunderer can take the blame for.
It’s like when Obama was elected the hysterical fear driven red-neck gunner assholes went crazy buying all the AR-15’s and other semi-automatics they could get their hands on for fear the opportunity would soon be lost. Dumb bastards.
So now we have a rush to the border for analogous reasons. Get across before it is closed off for good. Everything trump touches turns to shit. He’s got the Midas touch.
“red-neck gunner assholes ”
Evelyn,
…been called worse….
Most red-necked gunner assholes deserve to be called worst so all is right in God’s heaven.
Evelyn,
Worst? I would rather be called for wurst…it is what’s for dinner….
You mean the Mid-ass touch.
they [NYT] must be sooo happy.
As for Girl Scouts, I always found their cookies kind of blah, but I’ll give the troop a couple of dollars to help them out. lately, I say ‘and do you think girls should join the Boy Scouts or stay in the Girl Scouts?’ When they chorus ‘Girl Scouts!’ I give them an extra buck.
I also ask the girls if they know their scout laws. A lot of them don’t, and one of the adults told me they cut off a couple because it’s too much to memorize. !!!
I was a Boy Scout in 1964, and…
A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent. That’s off the top of my head.
C’mon, girls: get with it.
Want a shock? Find out who is politically influencing the Girl Scouts, starting with Planned Parenthood.
what is the connection from PP to GS?
The last thing that the Left wants is for the Boy or Girl Scouts encouraging good citizenship or morality.
I hope he isn’t so upset he tosses his cookies!
The New York Times is reporting ocean heat waves destroying marine life.
Senae democrats are planning on emphasizing climate toward millennials as I predicted. The wedge issue of 2019.
Not the best strategy. Try something they care about. Tell em the other side is going to ban tattoos.
May or may not win an election or two, but no proposal on the table right now or prospectively on the table anytime soon even begins to address climate change without first addressing overpopulation, which remains and likely will remain politically untouchable. Simply no good answers there. But not to worry, resource depletion and/or climate change will do the heavy lifting for us eventually. That’s the way overshoot is always handled, no matter the species.
Over what? Is the population a problem? In a square mile if you space souls three feet apart you have room for 3,097,600. That means it would only take the entire land area of Malta and we have enough standing room for the American population.
We have wide open spaces so what’s the problem. This is all as foolish as worrying about the plastic in the bodies of the arthropods at the bottom of the Marianas Trench. And the Arthropods, they are not complaining.
Don’t you know that every new American magically produces more resources then they consume once they start working? You concentrate on the negative. Those arthropods now have plastic and before they had nothing thanks to people. Now they can compete over who has the biggest plastic thread in their gut. We have made their life better. And the respect and attention immigrants give to older dogs. I can hardly wait.
Note: Put All Americans on Malta at once like that Fyre Festival thing and dogs would not be the only species with feces.
The Dawg’s practicing satire today, I assume? K-10 for you!
I bet you are looking forward to those immigrants giving them older dogs attention. For some reason I picture some Asian ladies giving an old dog some attention he has been needing lol. Meanwhile those arthropods will hunt the dog down because they realize he is an American dog after all :-). And the Asian ladies will let the arthropods in because they got that cash money they were looking for.
I wonder if those Asian ladies like it human style?
Good one…I think I know where you wanted to go with this one and I have to say naughty naughty :-).
Three mil per square mile? So per one hundred square miles, 300 million. Surely Malta has more land than that. I’m good at rough calculations and bad at exact ones. But still it serves me well in a quick pinch.
You should know all about how many souls can be packed into a particular space Scratch. When you stand at the door after a ten-minute break you must know how many souls are in the room. With your satanic awareness how could you not?
It has to add to the glee when you say ‘Back on your heads!
Souls are malleable, Dawg. Actual humans, not so much.
I dunno Scratch, I think Fox news proves you wrong.
National Enquirer reporting NYT editorial board infiltrated by space aliens. Also reporting AOC is a space alien; proof cited, her bug like alien eyes.
NYT retaliates, claim National Enquirer not reliable news source. What’s more, they have no knowledge of any space aliens in NYC.
Brh
Insects ARE aliens, the vanguard of a coming invasion. Or they will just keep mutating and overthrow us from within. AOC may well be a bug….
Superhero Comic ‘Black’ Launching Follow-Up ‘White’
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/white-brings-fear-a-superpowered-black-planet-comic-books-1191870
The sequel to the acclaimed series puts a racist white president into a world where only black people have superpowers.
“The first series of the critically acclaimed superhero comic book Black introduced a world where only black people have superpowers, further explored in the spinoff projects Black [AF]: Widows and Orphans, Black [AF]: Devil’s Dye and Black [AF]: America’s Sweetheart. But the next chapter in the series threatens to upend the world as it’s known, as a racist President of the United States threatens to strike back against his perceived threat.
“The second part of a planned trilogy, the new six-part series called White will see X — formerly Kareem Jenkins, and the star of Black — have to deal with the presidential administration of Theodore Mann, the new leader of the United States and a man with a history of racism who has declared all those with powers as terrorists and has super-soldier plans to the care of the problem.
“‘Black revealed a world where only black people have superpowers, as seen from the perspective of X, a young man struggling to navigate suddenly becoming superhuman,’ Kwanza Osajyefo, co-creator of the Black franchise and writer of White, tells The Hollywood Reporter. ‘In White, he and other characters are now navigating the context of empowered blacks in a nation entrenched in a history of racial inequality. Now, the challenge is to the foundations of white identity propped up by institutional normalization of its supremacy.'”
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Can’t wait for the follow-ups Red, Cyan, Purple, Green, Blue and Yellow.
Yes Elrond, what would we ever do without your incessant anti-White preaching. You should whip yourself in penance like Filipinos at Easter. Carry your cross and wear your crown of thorns. I think you enjoy this ;-). Meanwhile in the real world, I am pretty certain that a Black president would be WAY more racist than a White one. After all Barry O couldn’t stop himself talking about how Treyvon looked like him, etc. Yet Trump can’t even be bothered to ever even indicate there is such a thing as a White person. But he cares dearly about the Blacks, Hispanics and Asians whose employment numbers are through the roof wahoo!!!!!!
I need a program to keep track of how the identities have been switched. So you are Pro-Black and Elrond is a white knight today? What about tomorrow? I understand the need for plausible deniability when the splainin time comes after Trump spills the beans but right now it is very confusing.
What are you barking about K-Dog lol? How do you interpret my post as pro-Black? Please do splain. Also what is Trump gonna spill the beans about? Are you a Cabinet member :-)?
I said I was confused.
Try not to be. Follow my finger. Left – right – up – down – all around :-).
K-Dawg got some of that wacky weed in his chow this morning!
That is a way to loose a finger. Hypno-aggression. Like fear aggression but it only happens when a finger gets too close to the face. It’s instinctual.
The true colors come shining through. Both of them. A binary rainbow of distraction and detour. If the state of this water were not so deep the herring would be seen as red.
Oh jezusss god I hate to think of some of the places that finger has been since you last took a bath!
Evelyn sweetie your mind needs a bath.
I was just playing with you K-Dog. No reason to bite.
She has been pro-White ever since she got here. Elrond has been anti-White ever since he got here, just like you. There is no confusion except in yourself – so you are right in that much at least.
I was wondering ifJFK could withstand todays Grand Inquisitors in Congress like Adam Schiff and Gerald Nadler … Bill Moyer and Sargent shriver hauled to give testimony, under oath, the whole world watching, about JFKs links to Sam Giancola and the Chicago mob, his sexual liasons with bimbos in the white house pool, his closed door meetings with kruschev in Vienna, his role in Marilyn Monroe’s death, his links with Dr Feelgood in Manhatten and subsequent meth amphetamine addiction, and so on and so, laid right out there raw for the world to see?
Brh
Indeed. How many of them could withstand this kind of scrutiny? Jimmy Carter, maybe? Or Ronald Reagan. But Barack Obama or Bill Clinton? It is to laugh.
You call it scrutiny, I call it harassment. In the old days corruption was not officially accepted as the way of doing business, so respect still existed. Now that everyone in office is a criminal, there is no reason to show any respect, is there? Anything goes and nothing really matters.
What is really happening is the advent of the Deep State taking away control of the Federal government from the voters.
Think about it. What are these Democrats doing in the House, they are disrespecting the people’s choice for the presidency. Another way of saying it is we are smarter than you and we will pick who we want. The difference in the past is that the Deep State respected the people’s choice. No longer.
It IS a coup d’etat if they get rid of Trump. The uniparty dictatorship follows.
I hope all you liberal voters enjoyed your freedom from government control, it is almost over.
Noted that 76000 illegals were stopped at the border in February. I wonder how many were not caught and are now residents of the US. 70% were from Central America, remember the caravans.
La Raza is winning.
You and I both know John, that the Deep State took away control of the Federal government from the voters on 22 Nov 1963 in Dealey Plaza.
As Stalin’s Security Chief Beria said, “Show me the man, and I’ll show you the crime.” In other words they can dig up something on anyone. Or at least they can twist any act to look nefarious.
One of my favorites is when they point out (in earnest whispers) how Trump sold condo’s in Manhattan to Russians. What more proof do you need of criminal collusion than a realtor selling his inventory? Oh my God! And then Donald junior had lunch with a Russian lawyer. Probably had sex with her and then peed on her hotel bed, because that’s how Russian lunches end. Don’t you know?!
The McCarthyism is strong with this one.
Go Joe. JMC was right, thats why he was wronged.
Yes yes you can tell from the genital warts in his anus. Just ask Roy Cohn.
wth
Whether or not JFK could, Benjamin Franklin sure as hell couldn’t!
Well, India is joining the club, signed an agreement with Russia to build a new plant to manufacture the ubiquitous Kalasnikov rifle, the latest model AK47, 750,000 the first order. Over 100 million of these guns have been built over the past 70 years and it keeps on going. That’s what I call success!
Its interesting tho India, the worlds most populace country, turned to Russia and not the US, Great Britain, Germany or China to supply its new national rifle.
Brh
No doubt they realized that Oceania now is allied with Islam and feared getting shoddy goods.
India’s got a small-penis complex. While its military is nominally equipped for war in the 20th century, according to the New York Times, analysts say their ability to supply ammunition is limited to about 10 days in a full-scale war.
Their aging fighter planes are piloted by men whose mustaches rival anything in World War I, and barnstormers compete in deadly barrel rolls with sacred figures of Vishnu velcroed to the dashboard.
The tactical deployment of the AK is likely to resemble a Bollywood dance production with volleys fired at random angles to the twang of a sitar.
The main adversary — probably the only possible adversary outside of China — is Pakistan. So the question is how does India stack up against Pakistan?
And how likely is it the side that feels as tho they are losing will resort to nuclear weapons?
brh
I used to work in an office that employed many Indian contractors. (I don’t mean Comanche or Shoshone etc). During that time was one of the times the tension between India and Pakistan over Kashmir was intense and the talk of nuclear war between them was getting much attention.
I was slightly taken aback by the alacrity with which the Indians were embracing the possibility of India using nukes on the Pakistanis. They exhibited no fear of the prospect but were excited by it.
Did they know Pakistan has nukes to lob right back at ’em?
Perhaps the excitement was over the prospect of a vastly reduced Indian population, with plenty of lebensraum for those that remain.
I just hope those Indian telemarketing boiler rooms which brighten my every day are target number one!
Right up your ass, goyim! You like?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-vote-anti-semitism-measure-after-rep-omar-s-israel-n979106
Rep. Omar needs to go full burka.
Yes, ’tis Russia and the Putin that have infiltrated our country.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0KMVhb57RqI
Thanks for finding that Wolfie. I’d probably want to find other confirmation before I repeated some of the astounding tidbits it purports (Doris Day and Manson, Fonda and Manson etc, but I’m ready to believe – those were extraordinary times and nothing was too weird to be possible.)
Manson was a heart attack and I was relieved of one less stress item when he died. I’ve always thought that guy was so crazy bad to the bone that if he was ever released from prison on parole or whatever, he would have put everything he could into committing some crime more heinous than anything he did before.
I was chilled by the time I watched him being interviewed by Rinaldo Rivera. Rivera was asking some pointed questions of Manson and getting quite cheeky in the attitude he was showing him. Manson gave him a fixed look of stink eye and said words to the effect, “You don’t think I could have you killed even from prison…?” Rinaldo instantly changed his attitude like a puppy just smacked with a rolled up newspaper.
rumor is his clan did kill, while CM was in prison.
I actually knew a crazy, hippy, criminal who had stayed with them at the ranch in the desert.
Breitbart–suspect arrested..usual suspects, TWMNBN,
Campus authorities arrested Zachary Greenberg,
who is not a UC Berkeley student, on Friday. Jail records show he’s accused of assault with “force likely to produce great bodily harm,” which the state’s criminal code classifies as assault with a deadly weapon.
can you elaborate?
from the link
“Accusing Jews of having allegiance to a foreign government has long been a vile anti-Semitic slur that has been used to harass, marginalize, and persecute the Jewish people for centuries,” Greenblatt wrote. “Sometimes referred to as the ‘dual loyalty’ charge, it alleges that Jews should be suspected of being disloyal neighbors or citizens because their true allegiance is to their co-religionists around the world or to a secret and immoral Jewish agenda.”
The dissembling of religious leaders is a bit weird. According to Ralph Abernathy, Dr. King was rather promiscuous. So was Dr. Elijah Muhammad. Reverend Ernest Angley “Went Low”.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RY17aKZj4DM
Ancient Rome was characterized by a sharp divide between rich and poor, a breakdown of tradition, and mores and general lawlessness, and “treacherous polarization.”
“But though there were no formal parties, it is true that there were now two broadly opposing worldviews floating in the political ether waiting to be tapped as needed. As the crisis over the Lex Agraria revealed, it was no longer a specific issue that mattered so much as the urgent necessity to triumph over rivals. Reflecting on the recurrent civil wars of the Late Republic, Sallust said, “It is this spirit which has commonly ruined great nations, when one party desires to triumph over another by any and every means and to avenge itself on the vanquished with excessive cruelty.” Accepting defeat was no longer an option. 63”
Mike Duncan
The Storm Before the Storm: The Beginning of the End of the Roman Republic
Author Bio: Sallust Born: October 1st, 86 BC in Rome (Ancient State), Amiternum Died: c. 35 BC Nationality: Roman Occupation: Historian “Sallust (86 BC-c. 35 BC).” Encyclopedia of World Biography. Detroit. Gale, 1998. Gale Biography in Context. Web. 11 Apr. 2011 http://infotrac.galegroup.com/itweb/hell32414 Gaius Sallustius Crispus was a Roman Historian and Statesman. Although Sallust was a Historian, his participation in Roman politics shown through his election as tribune of the people from the Popular faction shows his education in politics. Sallust had a deep hatred for a murderer, Milo, and aimed to rouse public hatred for him. Furthermore, Sallust was a loyal friend and follower of Julius Ceasar showing his inclination to make an assumption concerning the evils of the factions of the government considering both Ceasar and Claudius- two good friends- were murdered for their political views. The document, “The Breakdown of Roman Unity,” discusses how political parties and factions may have attributed to the fall of the Roman empire. Sallust references the times before the destruction of the Carthage and how there was no political strife- the people and senate governed coercively because they both shared a similar fear: fear of the enemy. However, when this fear vanished, so did the peace in the state. The upper class separated itself from the rest of the citizens and abused their power thus leading to a two party system and eventually the destruction of the state. Sallust references Tiberius and Gaius Gracchus who defied the corruption of the nobility and in turn slain thus showing the ability of the party in power to do whatever it takes to remain in power. Sallust concludes his document attributing the fall of the Roman empire to the creation of political parties. “It is the spirit which has commonly ruined great nations, when one party desires to triumph over another by any and every means and to avenge itself on the vanquished with excessive cruelty.
I’ll match your Sunset Boulevard and raise you a chimp. A rhyme for our time. The republic vanquished, launch now 900 years of Caesars. It we are not extinct in 90. That is more likely.
Have you heard Malcom X’s Speech about “The House Negro”?
I’m a bit of a “House Negro”. It’s not so bad being a House Negro.
Malcom X says that racial integration is like “adding cream to the coffee: It weakens the coffee.”
I wonder if Obama would agree with this?
Why would he? “Weaken” in this case is clumsy and linguistically a poor term. “Enhance” would fit just as well or better since it’s strictly an opinion any how.
Other words that might fit depending on the quality of the coffee and the taste buds of the one passing judgement might include, ‘improves’, ‘degrades’, ‘contaminates’, ‘perfects’, ‘fucks up’. and so on. Malcolm X, dear man, was not known for having an extensive pedigree in how to properly select, grind, and brew coffee and as for his word power, there are no recorded instances of him ever winning a scrabble game.
Are you afraid of his words that you you just want to talk about them. I think so. Therefore I’ll bring them to light.
The House Negro and the Field Negro
Malcolm X
Back during slavery, when Black people like me talked to the slaves, they didn’t kill ’em, they sent some old house Negro along behind him to undo what he said. You have to read the history of slavery to understand this. There were two kinds of Negroes. There was that old house Negro and the field Negro
And the house Negro always looked out for his master. When the field Negroes got too much out of line, he held them back in check. He put ’em back on the plantation. The house Negro could afford to do that because he lived better than the field Negro. He ate better, he dressed better, and he lived in a better house. He lived right up next to his master – in the attic or the basement. He ate the same food his master ate and wore his same clothes. And he could talk just like his master – good diction. And he loved his master more than his master loved himself. That’s why he didn’t want his master hurt. If the master got sick, he’d say, “What’s the matter, boss, we sick?” When the master’s house caught afire, he’d try and put the fire out. He didn’t want his master’s house burned. He never wanted his master’s property threatened. And he was more defensive of it than the master was
That was the house Negro. But then you had some field Negroes, who lived in huts, had nothing to lose. They wore the worst kind of clothes. They ate the worst food. And they caught hell. They felt the sting of the lash. They hated their master. Oh yes, they did. If the master got sick, they’d pray that the master died. If the master’s house caught afire, they’d pray for a strong wind to come along. This was the difference between the two
And today you still have house Negroes and field Negroes. I’m a field Negro
This speech was delivered in 1965 in Selma, Alabama while Martin Luther King Jr. was held in jail for his famous march on Selma. Malcolm gave this speech to young protesters who received it very well.
And what kind are you?
No need to answer.
We all know.
Burma-Shave
The Blacks probably would have been better off keeping their heads down, working hard, strengthening their families and accumulating Capital rather than fucking with the Deep State which eventually exported all the blue collar jobs and flooded their communities with drugs? You probably don’t want to Fuck with these people?
It’s better to be a House Negro….
We can all just pretend that we’re equal….
We pretend about many important things (nature of our “democratic” government, religion, etc.) anyway….
That pretty much says it.
The credo of the Democratic Party forever is for their elite to keep everyone in their place and divide and conquer the troops. Blacks have been dupes forever. They do not realize the power they have bargaining with their votes. Until the Dems take away our votes. It is coming. And the oil that will grease the skids are in the GOP.
Blacks know their own inferiority at a very deep level. They know they can never compete against the higher races in the professions – and this is a torment to them. Those like you who dangle equality before them are cruel indeed. Ignorance of racial equality is your own only defense.
Equality is only real in our minds. In the real world there are simply leaders and followers.
We can embrace the equality of all human beings before the law. We can embrace equal opportunity.
It’s when we embrace “outcome equality” that permanent affirmative action is implemented and destroys the concept of a meritocracy.
was anyone forced to take hard drugs?
Dog,
Sooo….the house negro was just a black Sonderkommando?
“Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month”
The New York Times is killin’ it…
They have to
The proof of the counter point of view must be suppressed..
The identity of this country is in flux.
“Giant Ants Attack New York”
‘Ravenous insects headed for Gracie Mansion, spurred on by climate change’
Weekly World News is killin’ it …
Brh
Silly NYT. In an attempt to bash Trump and push their pro immigration agenda, they ended up confirming that there is indeed a border crisis and emergency that justifies Trump’s EO for border wall funding. Oops!
The article is classic NYT spin. They admit the numbers are at record levels…
“The system is well beyond capacity, and remains at the breaking point,” Kevin K. McAleenan, commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, told reporters in announcing the new data on Tuesday.
“This is clearly both a border security and a humanitarian crisis,” Mr. McAleenan said.
But now for the spin…
But a wall would do little to slow migration, most immigration analysts say.
Note how they shifted the goal? From border security and mitigating unlawful crossings to slowing migration?
The main problem is not one of uncontrolled masses scaling the fences, but a humanitarian challenge created as thousands of migrant families surge into remote areas where the administration has so far failed to devote sufficient resources to care for them, as is required under the law.
Ah. So a wall will mitigate unlawful crossings and increase border security; but it won’t give everyone who manages to cross welfare for life at taxpayer expense. Check.
Note the NYT’s characterization of all who cross as “migrant families”. No distinction between lawful and unlawful crossings, between migrants and criminals. No reporting the facts: that the vast overwhelming majority of migrants do not qualify for asylum, and are denied and sent back.
The NYT doesn’t want a wall; they want more processing centers so that greater numbers can get through. But to justify more processing, they have to admit to the very border crisis liberal leaders deny exist.
Weekly World News
‘Jesus and 12 Apostles Amongst Migrants at Border’
‘Clubbed by ICE while performing miracles near El Paso’
‘Congress to Investigate’
Brh
Weekly Worls News is killin’ it.
Time deploy the military!!!!!!!!!
Oh wait, we only use our military to protect other countries’ borders!!! Sorry I had another blond moment this morning ;-).
Nailed it.
Well it’s nice to see the NYT admit to border crisis that they previously denied exists. For liberals and the NYT, whether or not something exists depends entirely on their agenda.
Still—such a murky narrative! It must be hard for liberals to keep up. One moment it’s a fake crisis; the next moment it’s real. One moment we’re at war with Eastasia; the next moment it’s Eurasia.
But they never let a good crisis go to waste! Unless it doesn’t net anything for them.
“From Michael Jackson to Bill Cosby and R. Kelly, the response from supporters of the men who have been accused of sexual misconduct has been almost as explosive as the allegations they all denied.
There’s good reason for the skepticism over such allegations.
This country is well known for wrongly accusing and convicting black men.”
This country is also known for rightly accusing but not convicting famous Black men. We get alot of the small fry though, but still not enough.
I think OJ’s son killed Nicole.
Good on ya! OJ played the good dad and was simply part of the coverup.
Nonsense…OJs blood was found near her. He did it.
Kato did it – the guy who was Longstreet’s Chinese side kick.
For your consideration.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2123547/OJ-innocent-Private-investigator-claims-Simpsons-SON-hacked-stars-wife-friend-death–went-trial-cover-up.html
Would field nigger Malcolm X have been here?
https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/history/article148667224.html
Brass Balls filled the halls.
Picture Was there. Black Panthers with guns in state Capitol bldg. No doubt. A picture is worth….
And one day Whites will be in a similar position. So I have much respect.
And you are right to have it. Never underestimate the strength or determination of your opposition.
High hopes, high Heat, and Hamlet answered in 2020. We must Be. In Victory.
I’ll take my Sunset Boulevard without the chimp, especially Michael Jackson’s, thank you very much.
The old sod. Same old depravity.
Go HBO, cast these former catamites and give us some creepy candid camera!
Knot me temporarily to this dock of debauchery, and then oh please, please, unmoor me so that I may flee the unchaste. Oh how you tease me!
I hear that Glenn Close may be doing a remake.
You mean you don’t like Bubbles :-)? What did Bubbles ever do to deserve your disdain? I always love your way with words. We do need to hear more from these poor catamites. How many more are lurking in the shadows? How many are hiding in plain daylight? Corey Feldman knows? He is defending MJ’s legacy and he isn’t speaking out like he was before. Could it be that if you let the cat out of the bag you will be disappeared? The truth is likely very shocking to our middle American sensibilities. Perhaps we don’t want to know the truth or wish it wasn’t so. Could it be that the people, at least some, who weave our collective dreams together on the big screen are actually monsters of hell?
The ones who steal life from our eyes. To them, vision’s just some costly infection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXRs84Jg_BQ
Very interesting…and very scary that they have that power.
In the Spirit of the Times
The European Union, which – just like clueless Ozone – has always disliked George W. Bush, who defended the priority of the US national interests over the interests of NATO and the so-called global West, entered into an anti-Bush deal with the American Clintonoids, to which, apparently, joined Condoleezza Rice and a number of other Bush administration officials.
This was due to the fact that the European Union, contrary to popular belief, hates and fears Russia more than it hates the United States of America, and Bush’s policy led to $140 per barrel, with the result that Russia finally broke out of debt bondage and, by creating stabilization and other funds, very energetically started to form its own banking system, independent of the West.
On the death of Joseph Stalin – the end of the Epoch
Shostakovich performs a fragment of the 7th symphony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LZC9dOFDKA
Sviatoslav Richter and the Borodin Quartet play Shostakovich Piano Quintet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AzoQsxXiZs
Well if ozone is clueless than I am too because I never liked W. He is as Deep State as one can get no? He led us down a of path of useless war and has kept the international opium money laundering scheme going, he is very open borders, and is friends with the Clintons, etc. Many EU countries are friendlier with Russia than they are with the US. They have economic ties with Russia. Russia has every right to look out for their national interests and so does the US. And if that means getting out of NATO so be it.
NATO must be kept going no matter what. In fact we are re establishing the Hanseatic League, the Muscovy Company and the East India Trading Compact. Once these supra national orgs are established they should last forever even tho they are no longer relavant and serve no use whatever except to provide perqs to the parasites who run them.
Brh
My sentiments exactly Brh! We need to get back to basics and to what is best for our country. It is great to have friends but not at the expense of ourselves and our country. And most of our allies talk about us and treat us in the worst possible ways that friendship is not the first thing that comes to my mind. Their friendship is with our Benjamins is more like it.
Similar to the EU buttpounder Honchos in Brussels.
They’re here forever, or at least until they bring enough Africans and Moslems into Europe to be replaced by the Caliphate. Then they will vote to disband, running for their lives toward the Russian border, the last vestige of Christian civilization on the continent.
The lavish EU HQ and 50 ft long Mercedes limos will be requisitioned by top Imams, and Minuets will be welded to the roof, a new day, like Constantinople in 1453.
Brh
minarets???
Minet
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=minet
My mistake Q.
Thanks for pointing it out
A time to cast stones away, and a time to gather stones together
A time to cast predictions away, and time to gather predictions together
Hillary Clinton’s statement that she will not participate in the presidential race, in combination with Bloomberg’s similar refusal, begins to resemble more and more, if not unconditional surrender, then panic in the Clintonoid camp of the flying monkeys and their erratic flight.
And all this happened due to the Schism of the Democratic Party, skillfully provoked by Trump during his appeal to the Congress and to the American people about the State of the Union, when he did not blame Maduro for the misfortunes of Venezuela, but blamed Maduro’s path of development – Bolivarian socialism.
With this move, he not only split the Democrats into supporters of socialism and the Clintonoids, but also exposed VP Pence as a secret ally of Senator Rubio, of whom all Trump supporters already know that he sold out to Bastinda, the Great and Terrible.
It came to the point that the best student of Bastinda, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, refused to condemn Maduro, which means that if Pence and Rubio manage to get Trump into Venezuelan adventure, then in 3 months he will fall into Zugzwang, because Congress will refuse to approve funding for this operation.
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/ocasio-cortez-doesn-t-understand-233049620.html
And it can lead to a war with Cuba, in comparison with which Vietnam will seem like a children’s fight in a sand box.
As for my “exaggeration” of the role of Hillary Clinton, she recently herself accused Donald Trump in this sin, who, in her opinion, in vain, considers her the head of a conspiracy against his government, and without her expecting that, her old girlfriend in the State Department Madeleine Albright splashed some gasoline into that fire by exposing the Republican candidate for President in 2012 Mitt Romney.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clinton-asks-trump-why-001320970.html
This is exactly what happened when she apologized to him for underestimating the threat of Putinism, and I repeatedly wrote that the key to modern geopolitics is hidden is in the studio, where in 2011 the first presidential televised debates between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama were held. And now not only I understood this, but also the leadership of the Democratic Party, which, because of Hillary Clinton’s attacks and manipulations of Bernie Sanders and Barack Obama, now cannot nominate any candidate for the presidency of the United States capable of defeating Trump in 2020.
Meanwhile, the very bid for the election as a mean to remove Trump from the White House is the defeat for Hillary Clinton, who openly explained to her supporters in October that Trump would be overthrown by the same methods as Yanukovych in Ukraine and Gaddafi in Lybia. And now they are trying to overthrow Maduro with these methods, and in 2011 they tried to prevent Putin from coming to power and you don’t need to go to the fortuneteller to figure out that they will try to overthrow him again as soon as possible, and the methods will be much more subtle, and by those who today swear loyalty to Putin, while spitting on the graves of Russian soldiers killed in Syria on the left bank of the Euphrates.
Well, Putin didn’t take revenge for them because he didn’t want to become Clinton’s puppet and provoke a nuclear war, but what are they trying to do?
And my hypothesis that the negotiations with North Korea broke down because of the threat of a repetition of this provocation at the same place was confirmed by yesterday’s rumor, very similar to the Mossad controlled leak that Russia warned Trump and Bush that if continuing democracy games will lead Democrats to power in the USA, under Bastinda’s control, then Russia will deliver a large-scale preemptive strike against aircraft carrier groups, submarines and bases, with flight time to Moscow less than 7 minutes, without waiting for the inauguration of the democratic candidate.
And the value of this leak very significantly increases by the joint and unprecedented statement of Russia and Israel on common actions to ensure the withdrawal of all foreign troops from Syria.
And we can now guess till we turn blue whether this request influenced the decision of Hillary Clinton and Bloomberg to withdraw their candidatures, and whether it can be canceled by the aforementioned split in the Democratic Party, but one thing is definite – Trump and Bush celebrate one strategic victory after another, despite the so-called “defeat” in Hanoi.
And only Adam Schiff continues to bully Trump, who, in response to a request from the House Judicial Committee, headed by Schiff, no longer consider it necessary to disguise the situation, just sent him to go fuck himself, comparing Schiff to Senator McCarthy, who ran like a cockroach after the generals of the US Army sent him the same way Trump sent Schiff now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army%E2%80%93McCarthy_hearings
You write interesting things, Finca.
You are no ordinary poaster, my friend.
You have access to intelligence reports that are available to a very select few. And your analysis seems to come from a trained professional.
Brh
The remark about Cuba might be accurate if it were filled woth Vietnamese, alas, those are Cubans.
Interesting that you continue to align Trump with Bush, Finc. I know of no one else who makes that connection and I’m highly skeptical myself, but I’ll keep an open mind for now. I’ve always thought that you give HRC far too much credit. She’s nothing more than a shameless and pathetic aspiring usurper in my opinion. The faction she fronts is no doubt a “clear and present danger,” but she herself is just another relatively expendable spokesperson, and she clearly won’t be the last of her kind. The Dem field in 2020 will be chock full of them.
That’s because you all ignore my writings about the War of the Roses – which ended only with the emerging alliance of Red Lancaster and White York against the Black Valois.
Trump is Red (like Vladimir Lenin or, rather, Arnold of Brescia), Bushes are white Plantagenets, with a bit of Black Polka dots and Clintonoids are Black like Cistercian Monks – the agents of anti-Christian Valois and anti-Orthodox part of Vatican.
We’re adding polka dots to the mix now too? Interesting theories.
No one is squeaky white. Iran-Contras, Prescott Bush trading with Nazis.
To the extent Trump is controlled by the Neo-Cons and the Tribe, he is just like Bush. That is to say, Finc is right though wrong in thinking that it’s a good thing. Not for us at least.
All the serving men must be used. Cui bono? Who gains. Thus the need for the triple parenthesis in all such conversations, either explicit or implicit.
Like I’ve said before, I’ve been extending him the benefit of the doubt up to now, figuring that he’s almost certainly been under duress in making some of his decisions. But that might be a mistake.
Trouble in the sisterhood as Mr. Brh likes to call us from time to time :-).
Linda Sarsour is lashing out at Nancy Pelosi for being a typical White feminist by doing the dirty work of the Patriarchy to get rid of Ilhan Omar for her anti-Israel and anti-AIPAC statements. I agree with Ms. Omar that pledging allegiance to any foreign country is unacceptable. I also agree the AIPAC has undue influence in American politics. I do question her allegiance to this country but that is a whole nother issue. More importantly what White women need to take away is that there is no escaping the guilty by association mentality that Black and Brown feminists believe exists. Ever since Hillary said that White women are basically stupid and had to be told who to vote for by their husbands, dads, brothers, bosses, the mailman, etc., it has all been downhill from there. Every couple of weeks now we keep hearing how White women in effect support the Patriarchy and do dirty work for the wicked White Man. It will take time, but White women will have to learn one way or the other that we are going to be just as bad off as White men in the future. After all we have their babies, stroke their egos, and support their wicked patriarchy while reaping the benefits…..
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/06/linda-sarsour-pelosi-doing-dirty-work-of-powerful-white-men-with-antisemitism-condemnation/
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/daniels-opinion-white-women-trump_us_5a79f67de4b0d0ef3c09fbf0
https://medium.com/@emmalindsay/why-straight-white-women-perpetuate-the-patriarchy-60b8fd585b74
That’s the thing SSL. ‘White Women’, are not going to stand by while their husbands, brothers and ‘specially their sons get f*kked over by some miserable marxist matriarchy led by lonely barren childless 50 year old cat ladies full of hate and a desire for vengeance looking to get even with the world at large and men specifically.
Brh
I totally agree! Like I’ve said before in so many words…don’t mess with my kids because I don’t know what I might do…and once I get unpredictable everyone should be concerned lol.
A people aren’t defeated until their women’s hearts are on the ground – Cherokee saying.
I thought we were finished. Maybe I was wrong.
Don’t ever give up hope! As long as we are here there is always a chance. Once you are told over and over that you and yours are the problem you eventually wake up and say, “DUH, it’s not just about him, it’s me too.” That is actually the real me too :-). But they already took the hashtag (sort of like they stole the rainbow). Once you realize it you won’t go back. And plus what sort of world is there going to be for our kids if we let them treat us like this? They won’t have anything unless we change.
Underfunded, overwhelmed. The border patrol can’t handle the bum rush. As I predicted. Image a crowd 10 rows wide, 10 deep. When the cops have a crowd that big tactics change. Si, si puede. Give them the jobs we used to give the less fortunately endowed. Meanwhile those Americans are shooting up whatever is available on the streets, in tents, underneath the highways. Youth employment is falling to all time lows, while three demographic formerly expected to retire or of the workforce has doubled their share of working hours since 2000.
The first generation migrants are moving out of their subsidized employment, leaving dependent industries to quietly recruit the new immigrant labor. The naturalized immigrants are moving into new areas, their bilingual ability useful at all levels of corporate organization as the Hispanic demographic grows to a majority in cities across the country.
The reasons they are comiing is because of our commitment to amnesty under international law. This idea was useful in breaking the Society Union’s grip on Germany and the Eastern bloc. Since then it has metastasized into something of a poor person’s instant passport to any first world country they want to go to. The burden of adjudicating millions of individuall asylum campaigns overwhelms a system, which is another way to say, job security for lawyers.
And what about that nation building in Afghanistan? We’re organizing a retreat that will allow the Taliban to sweep into towns where a weakened population will be unable to resist. The New York Times reports 51% of the country lives below Afghanistan’s poverty line, while 13.5 million are surviving on one meal a day. Nothing helps steady a trigger finger like an empty stomach. I suggested legalizing opium production for manufacturing painkillers in 2005 but I’m just a dreamer. They had to get by raising worthless commodity crops as their only economic activity which from several kms looks a lot like a shooting gallery of easy targets. No wonder it’s such a number being ‘Ghan. It makes one yearn to be Swedish.
I predict immigration gets exponentially worse within 2 years, and will go to new highs in 2020 when a democrat is elected. The two factors of hectoring moral speech about about the less fortunate, cueing the stage appearances of contrite looking central Americans will combine with new mandates for passenger car and truck efficiency and carbon related taxes, setting up each issue as wedges.
On the flip side, maybe Meh-HEE-co will be the next great land rush for Americans with nothing else to lose after it gets hollowed out? Lots of open land down thataway for the rough and ready homesteader types willing to recreate the wild wild west atmosphere of yore.
Thats exactly wrong. The Mexican constitution forbids foreigners from owning land in areas
“In the Mexican constitution the restricted zone is defined as all land located within 100 kilometres of any national border and within 50 kilometres of any ocean. It also states that no foreigner is allowed to purchase direct title to land within the restricted zone.”
“Mexico has 4,301 kilometers of international land borders”
“According to the CIA World Factbook, Mexico has 9,330 kilometers of coastline.”
Assuming 9330*50 and 4301*100 approximates land belonging Exclusively to LA RAZANs, there is well over 850,000 sq. km whitey can’t so much as squat in without permission.
So hard to see how the gold rush will play out there. Fred on Everything might just lose everything. The Mexican government has Pancho Villa’d white villas in the past.
Why should their laws matter since ours don’t?
Did any of you Trump idolizers see it this way?
“At CPAC, Trump ricocheted from his prepared teleprompter remarks into what can only be described as a herky-jerky, stream-of-conscious creepshow — a Willy Wonka ride into the dark, twisted world of Trump’s increasingly haunted and scattered brain. There was sweaty red-faced performance art; American flag leg-humping; bizarre and often shouty anecdotes leading nowhere; insults and obscenities directed at his enemies, both real and imagined; mean-spirited attempts at jokes; unabridged fear-mongering about infanticide and murderous immigrants; bug-eyed facial contortions more terrifying than the Momo Challenge; and other kneejerk outbursts that defy description.”
Why they at Urban dictionary define “Minet” as a curse?
I rather find it a somewhat pleasant experience.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=minet
Attribution?
By now you should have learned all you have to do is highlight a flavorful few words in most any article and google it.
Might be, but properly attributing quotes is kind of a standard thing in some parts.
It’s a Reddit post by ‘CummyBear2000)
Error!!! It was by ‘ulook4alec’, equally anonymous…
After you’ve visited this forum a few times you’ll learn soon enough many of the people here have no regard for standards, normality, logic, facts, common sense, taste, feelings etc.
Attribution in this case would have been a frivolous distraction.
Trump is hovering precariously on the edge of the cliff of insanity. He needs your help…maybe just a little more of a push.
More like:
Trump stood at the podium and began a speech that lasted an epic 2 hours. His audience was riveted for every single moment, hanging on his every word, listening to the pearls of wisdom flowing out of his mouth, mesmerized by his inflection and tonality. Has there ever been a better orator. Hitler? Please Huey Long? Give me a break. Fidel Castro? I may barfo. He delivered a thoughtful measured speech that hit every major issue concerning the country today. Completely at ease with himself and his audience he regularly interacted with members of his adoring audience. Reporters in the audience too copious notes, vainly trying to keep up with the political genius who stood before them, emoting on a vast array of subjects with hardly a pause between completely different subjects, all regaled with an expertise and knowledge that takes one’s breath away. Trump may be 72 years old, but he looks and sounds like a James Bond in his prime, and if I dare say it, looks like he could out perform even 007 in the bedroom.
Such a beautifully worded post and yet I know you are being very sarcastic. Crafty crafty seawolf :-).
Two-thirds of Americans think Trump is a criminal and most believe Michael Cohen over president, poll finds
‘Michael Cohen, a known liar headed to the big house, has more credibility than the leader of the free world’, says pollster
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-michael-cohen-poll-stormy-daniels-russia-mueller-a8809606.html
“Almost two-thirds of Americans believe Donald Trump committed crimes before he was elected, a poll has found.
“Forty-five per cent of US voters think the president has even broken the law since entering the White House, compared to 43 per cent who do not, according to Quinnipiac University’s survey.
“Tim Malloy, assistant director of the poll, said the results ‘deliver a double-barrelled gut punch’ to Mr Trump’s integrity.
“The research also found Americans believe Mr Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen – who is headed to jail for fraud, tax evasion and lying to congress – is more honest than the president.
“Half of voters said they believed Cohen’s allegations about Mr Trump’s ‘unethical and illegal behaviour,’ compared to 35 per cent who thought the president’s denials were true.”
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You have to look pretty damn dishonest, before people start saying you’re more dishonest than Michael Cohen.
Might be, but polls are notoriously slanted and/or unreliable. Election night 2016 comes to mind immediately…
Anyone who quotes “polls” as though they were some sort of empirical evidence ought to be hoisted high upon a pole of their own for public scorn.
Walter B: If you had said “as though they were some sort of undeniable evidence”, then I would agree with you. But public opinion polls, assuming they’re conducted properly, are empirical evidence by definition. We may not have omniscience working for us, but please don’t let partisanship mislead you into denying even the possibility of some kind of objective truth.
You know what they say about a-s-s-u-m-e my friend.
The polls don’t control for TDS. Once you eliminate TDS bias and outliars, the results tell a different tale.
Here we go again with the TDS bullshit.
If anybody is suffering from derangement due to Trump being in office, it’s his one-eyed supporters like you, ready to believe any shit he feeds them.
They gobble it up, say “Yummy! More Please!”. You (all) are simply duped.
A day will come when you finally realize just how badly you’ve been had and you’ll suffer horribly from the shame of it and how easily you bought the line of crap he’s served up.
I’ll bite. Please list the top three things Trump’s supporters have been “duped” on.
The wall, who would pay for it, why we need it, what it will look like, when we would start building it, how well it will work, that it’s being built as we speak, and it will soon be finished- hence “Finish the Wall.” Need I say more.
No Trump supporter I know expected Mexico to directly pay for the wall. I think it’s liberals who were duped—by taking Trump’s bravado literally.
Why we need a wall is manifestly clear: 25 million illegal aliens and counting.
If only Obama had come even a fraction as close to his #1 campaign promise. Surely you remember? He was gonna close Gitmo.
Well we’re getting a wall, and Gitmo is still open for business.
Who feels duped now?
Of course you didn’t. It was a undisguised racial slur meant to make Mexicans feel terrible about themselves, their plight and circumstance, and their nationality. Not only do Americans not want you in their country, but we’re going to make you pay for the very thing that will keep you the fuck out.
>>> It was a undisguised racial slur meant to make Mexicans feel terrible
Mexico is now a race? LOL. Best to take off those racial goggles from time to time so you can see clearly.
Elrond tell us your thoughts about Justin Trudeau and his downfall. Or if you keep commenting on American stuff you have to move down here with us. I bet you would actually like it if you gave it a try ;-).
He hasn’t fallen yet, SoftStarLight. But in any case, Justin Trudeau wasn’t my man to begin with. I feel no sense of loss, because I never perceived him as more than a branding exercise to begin with. Canadians are very familiar with our Liberal Party and how it operates.
This article is worth reading, if you’re not repelled by distaste for the New York Times:
Canadian Politics Aren’t Cute. They’re Corrupt.
The scandal surrounding Prime Minister Justin Trudeau shows just how cozy the country’s elite really is.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/06/opinion/canada-scandal-justin-trudeau.html
So in a sense I’m glad this is happening. The stables need mucking out from time to time.
Are you depressed?
Now you can relax. The FDA just approved Ketamine for depression that can’t be handled by other drugs. Yes, the horse tranquilizer will put a smile on your face as you step out to enjoy all that your local strip mall has to offer. The Asian prostitutes in the Nail and Massage salon, the Tattoo shop, Achmed’s variety with dubious packaged herbs and perfumed charcoal for hookahs to remubd you of home, the lawnmower repair, keeping your hobby of working for work’s sake running smoothly, the diabetic ulcer factory of the juiced health concoction, featuring enough fructose liquified to cause instant contractions in the pancreas, and the Check cashing outlet where loan sharking imitates banking except with bulletproof glass.
Yes, you’ll not with approval like Mr. Ed when you feel the Special K hit your brain. Finally, a cute for modem life.
Your spell check is malfunctioning this morning.
He was using the William S. Burroughs approach and hit submit way before he was finished. It happens!
Been there, done that!
which words?
Read the last sentence s-l-o-w-l-y.
acute? a cure ? a what?
You must have been on Special K when you posted this :-). How are you feeling? You know it may just be safer to stay with natural remedies..and plants…
Coming down off the snack cakes was no doubt traumatizing, to say the least!
Must have been given the insane jump from snack cakes to a horse tranquilizer :-o.
If you watched the Cohen hearing you saw the republican on the panel spend their entire time squealing about how the man who was convicted of lying on behalf of Trump had no remaining credibility. You would think they almost believed their own lies. Here’s a tidbit that goes towards shading them for such fools that they were:
“Fordham University corroborates Michael Cohen’s testimony: Trump campaign threatened legal action
The university confirms Cohen’s testimony that he threatened legal action if Trump’s academic records were released”
Adam full of Schiff?
Schiff is basically a goldbug and a permabear. Like the proverbial stopped clock, he’ll be correct twice a day. I actually sympathize with the current permabear view of our economy and its markets but their financial performance for their clients in recents years has been abysmal.
Schiff is well known in these parts for 1) he ran (unsuccessfully) for governor once and toured the state in a fitted out custom greyhound bus 2) His father was a tax protester who went to prison for not paying income tax, in fact claiming the income tax was illegal.
The Feds thought differently.
Brh
First we need to have Obamas academic records released.
Please do get those and lets go through them. I bet we will be shocked!
Great post this week, Jim. Our country is totally polarized into the Tea Party Right and the No-Rules Left. The No-Rules Left has spun drug abuse and child molesting into mere “lifestyle choices”. It was so heartening to see your post this week because I have long viewed Michael Jackson as a total pervert whose fans view his perversions as quaint idiosyncrasies.
Keep up the good work.
The fathers were ciphers because they were like deer in headlights. Jackson was a morally deranged sick puppy who hid his perversions behind an over the top opulence. Men who had to work for a living were unprepared for his obscene celebrity lifestyle. and that is the generation from which these men came.
Celebrities had all they were ever trying to get and to most people including our current POTHUS getting money is all there is in life. For the working stiff is little time to think of other things. Lights on but nobody home.
The idea that there could be more to life than just getting stuff is not common knowledge in Western culture as it once was. These fathers, completely mature themselves unfortunately were deer hitting the bumper of a Michael Jackson Kodachrome Cadillac.
Yet outmatched as they were they were men responsible for their actions and they have no excuse. We can always choose and they chose not to choose which itself is a choice. Had M. Jackson been a poor black man from Jacksonville these men would not have let their sons sleep with him or been shocked that the molestation would happen. Money made it all good and that would have been true for most people but it is not an excuse. They were very average men and they expressed only average weakness but ignorance of the law is not an excuse and fathers do know what some men will do with their penis.
MJ was a train wreck and still is. Neverland is being restored.
Neverland being restored could be a good thing. The money gets spent out in the middle of the desert and then it is gone. Then the winds can blow.
We men can be such raging penisaurs at times, can’t we? And dogs? Fuggettaboutit!
That is my point. The mothers can be a bit clueless not that they are off the hook here, but men……fathers….have…..peni…..themselves!
We know what evil lurks in the heart of men and dogs. We know that evil very well. Some of us manage it well and some of us don’t. Some have the need to manage it harder than others but regardless of who we are, we are all responsible for it and we know it has to be managed.
The idea of confining it to consenting adults is not rocket science.
Imagine if people got stuck together like dogs while making the beast with two backs. Maybe that would teach us.
For the working stiff there is little time to think of other things.
And now we know for sure as many of us believed all along that for MJ all his time was spent thinking about getting stiff. That or not dealing with the fact that he might get stiff and an evil woman might take advantage.
The lure of pervert candy wrapped in a private Disneyland. And the candy was there. Boxes and boxes of it all for the taking at his private movie theatre. Pervert candy, on 2700 acres of wrapping. Enough candy to attract whole families.
Note while MJ was in total arrested development pretending to be an eternal child like a trap door spider he does not seem to have been interested in the kinds of fairy tales which teach. That says something.
It sez guilt.
And nothing is more evil the politically correct fairy tales with no monsters, where no one ever gets eaten, with no witches or boogie men, and where little boys get rescued by girls. These fairy tales do teach, but they teach the wrong lessons.
A monster with no manners is a menace to the masses whose mendacity marries them to mannequins with no marbles. Miss me Maude?
Mmmm, no.
So it is clear that we need a new spiritual enlightenment. Religion and spirituality are necessary. When they are missing people tend to focus on what is right before them. If the material world is all there is what is more important than accumulating all the wealth and goodies that you possibly can? Also, why concern yourself with the well being of others if we are nothing but meaningless clumps of dust?
Trade deficit at $621 billion dollars, a ten year high. Should we just ask Trump to please stop doing whatever he is doing?
Geez Seawolf.
Everything Trump has been doing is trying to decrease the trade deficit. I would hate to see what it would be if HRC had won.
This is a measure of how imbalanced the global situation is. We buy like crazy and build very little. Guess where the wealth is going.
The trade deficit has been huge since the eighties. That is when we started giving away our manufacturing.
Wealth comes from making things, not the stock market.
We better hope the Trump trade groups have some luck with China. It could get a lot worse.
I’m sorry JohnAZ that just doesn’t pass the mustard test. He’s been at this for 2 years now and the best you can say is that it would have been worse without him. It’s a $100 billion worse with him. At some point in time you have to admit he is wrong. It’s like Apollo. At some point in time you have to say it didn’t happen. We’re at 50 years and still people believe. At 100 years will they still?
At 100 years will they even care?
sea-jizz, please link to your post excoriating Obama when he ended his term with a record high trade deficit. Not to mention doubling the national debt.
At least with Trump, we’re getting revenue on those imports via tariffs. The revenue we’ve collected so far (billions) could easily pay for a border wall.
Trump’s tariff’s got us better deals with Mexico and Canada; USMCA is far better for low-skilled workers. What did Obama do for the blue-collar unemployed?—except to mock them with: learn to code.
Well I’ll give you he never promised them non-existent and forever gone coal jobs where he could work beside Raylan Givens. And I’ll give you the economy he gave to Trump makes the economy he inherited from W look like a ditch that flows from the outhouse to a stream that flows pure gold. And I’ll give you the fact that Obama provided life-saving legislation that forced insurance companies to DO THEIR JOBS and care for people who had catastrophic illnesses while Trump only sought to repeal and replace, and only did the former- Alas it is easier to destroy than to create.
>>> Well I’ll give you he never promised them non-existent and forever gone coal jobs
And yet new coal projects and associated jobs continue to come online.
The National Mining Association estimates 50,000 new employees will be needed in coal mining over the next 10 years to meet increasing demand and to replace retiring workers.
>>> Trump makes the economy he inherited from W
Try Obama.
>>> Obama provided life-saving legislation that forced insurance companies to DO THEIR JOBS
Obama could have passed the patient bill of rights all on its own without the massive “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it” rights-eviscerating corporate welfare giveaway that is the ACA. Thanks to Trump, Americans are no longer forced to purchase a service from a private for-profit corporation. Normality restored.
JohnAZ
“The trade deficit has been huge since the eighties. That is when we started giving away our manufacturing”
How do you think those manufacturing jobs ended up overseas? They weren’t ‘given away by anybody – they were EXPORTED by the manufacturers themselves purely in the interest of profit because they could get dirt-cheap cheap labor and lax regulations on environmental issues.
“Union Sundown” by Bob Dylan (from his 1983 album “Infidels”) tells the story.
Now, we have the reality of robotization. Manufacturing in the US is actually higher than it’s ever been, it just doesn’t need human workers, which are so woefully inefficient.
from Wikipedia “Manufacturing in the USA”:
‘The United States is the world’s second largest manufacturer (after China) with a record high real output in Q1 2018 of $2.00 trillion (i.e., adjusted for inflation in 2009 Dollars)’
Yes, he cannot admit the Evil because he still thinks that a system can save us. He’s still jerking off to the invisible hand. What can save us? Only virtue in high places – and that means sacrifice, putting people ahead of profits. And that means Socialism, not Marxist but National.
Believing in “systems” apart from virtue is cheap. It takes a lot to make a good society. It’s not some kind of slam dunk or rap video, much less a bunch of assholes chanting Drill, baby, drill.
Janos, you think National Socialism puts people in front of profits? Right!
Yes, it could. Study what they don’t want you to know: the Economic Miracle of Nazi Germany.
The Aryan Captains of Industry that you worship a la “Atlas Shrugged” are pygmies by comparison. In fact, they are traitors who struck an all but fatal blow to the body politic.
Yep! Any ideas?
Obama: learn to code.
Let’s make everything here. Our country is YUGE :-)! Why can’t we try at the very least? That would put everybody to work. Then we could sell our stuff to everybody but we wouldn’t need anything from anybody.
Well we used to and we still could except that greedy businessmen realized that they could “maximize” their profits by paying off enough sellout politicians to look the other way so they could ship well paying jobs overseas to countries that utilized labor instead. Corporations are people too, right?
No need for ‘sellout politicians’ to enable that behavior. It’s all “perfectly legal”.
Could be that some of the outward flow had something to do with high corporate income taxes and high labor rates from years of union workers. The big boys do not pay the high taxes because of lobbying but the rest do.
Taxes, taxes, taxes John why is it always about the taxes? Did you know that the Founding Fathers eliminated direct taxation of the American public by government because once taxation begins, greedy governments quickly find that they can never take enough. If we are all so equally created, why is every adult not taxed at the same percentage based on top line income? Why? Because the system is rigged to allow those with the most power to take the most advantage and to stick the burden of taxation upon those citizens who actually create the wealth through the value they bring to the system, that’s why. Direct taxation by government is even worse then theft at gunpoint. Oh wait, it IS theft at gunpoint.
Exactly Walter B. Our tax system is regressive for the middle class. The poor don’t pay shit because they ain’t got shit to pay. But we’re not going to kill them all because like rabbits they just reappear. There is a serious movement now to bring back the progressive taxation we had before that B grade actor Ronald Reagan famously did away with it. We should all embrace it. If your congressman or senator opposes it VOTE HIM THE FUCK OUT OF OFFICE.
And here’s another problem wolfie, assets (bestides real estate) are NEVER taxed are they? If you won a lottery of $200 million, yes the government will take half of that right away, but you would still be left with $100 million. You could easily live the rest of your life on that amount (I did it on $2 million myself) and not only never have to pay a dime in taxes on that million, but you would qualify for many social handout programs because you would be low income. Doesn’t Warren Buffet make $75K a year in income? Think about that people.