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Maybe twenty-nine FBI agents in tactical combat gear and a fleet of SUVs with K-Force LED lights flashing wasn’t enough to flush out the arch-villain Roger Stone from his South Florida hide-out. Ever consider that? He might have charged out of the place like John Wayne in Rio Bravo, brandishing a spatula or a shoe-horn, since he didn’t happen to have a Colt-45 on hand. Maybe they should have sent in a SEAL team and the Boston Patriots offensive line for back-up. Anyway, they got their man! And CNN was there to record it, thanks to their 2018 hire of FBI former special agent Josh Campbell, who had been FBI Director James Comey’s majordomo in a previous career incarnation. Isn’t it a small world? Somehow Josh got wind of the pre-dawn raid.
Roger Stone is not everybody’s cup of antifreeze. I don’t want to go too tweet-mean on the guy, but let’s face it, physically he does look a little like Zippy-the-Pinhead — if, say, Zippy had made it to community college and learned how to manage a four-in-hand necktie. Mr. Stone represents a certain kind of stock character in American politics: The Joker. In the Batman sense of the role: the sociopathic trickster. He made his bones cooking up gags for “Tricky Dick” Nixon, and carved out a long career as a behind-the-scenes political black-opster on the Republican side. American politics, in my lifetime anyway, is just one long game of innuendo — proctology as practiced among the goodfellas in the electoral trade — and ole Roger was famous for finding new and comical ways of putting it to the opposition.
And so, the FBI came a’calling to indict him on various felony counts of lying to them, witness tampering, and obstruction of justice, charges that could put him on ice until the end of his days — unless they can crack him like a four-minute egg for a rich yolk of confession about Mr. Trump’s scheme to sell Arkansas to Vladimir Putin, or something like that.
As I often point out here, history is a trickster, too. Things fly out of left field from it all the time. Pink elephants, black swans, honeybadgers, World Wars, flash crashes, and Roger Stone. I have a theory that Mr. Stone, in his twisted way, will turn out to be a sort of unlikely hero in this subplot of the Mueller inquisition. How might that work? Despite the attempt to squeeze him on charges that will bankrupt him and send him off to die in the federal cooler, Mr. Stone will do what he said on the courthouse steps: he won’t bear false witness against Mr. Trump. What that really means is something else: he is willing to step into a court-of-law and face down Mr. Mueller’s prosecutors.
Mr. Mueller does not want this case to be tried in court, I assure you. In the event, an awful lot of dark evidence will emerge from the defense side of the room about the criminal malfeasance among the Mueller Team, and their reliance on the Clinton network of fixers, grifters, and rogues who cooked up the years-long Russian Meddling-and-Collusion flimflam in the FBI going way back to the spring of 2016. Mr. Stone’s case is not unlike the case against General Mike Flynn, who was sent to the doghouse for three months in December by Federal Judge Emmet Sullivan to reconsider his guilty plea. Judge Sullivan may know that the charges against Gen. Flynn amount to prosecutorial misconduct by Mueller, and Sullivan is interested in trying the case to see what might come out. It will be March before anyone knows whether Gen Flynn got his mind right in the matter.
Mr. Stone, on the other hand, is ready for combat. He has unashamedly set-up a legal defense fund support site (Google it) because this is America where you have to be a hedge fundster to defend yourself in a court-of-law against a battalion of federal inquisitors who never have to submit invoices for billable hours. For most US citizens, this is like being dragged into a gunfight with a letter-opener against a battery of howitzers. Surely everybody in the land, including me, has a low opinion of Roger Stone and his reputation as a political bottom-feeder. But I salute his courage in going to trial, if only to see the evidence laid out on both sides.
Meanwhile, I’m wondering about something else. Of course, Mr. Trump eventually caught hell on the government shutdown. But in reopening it for three weeks, does this allow for the confirmation of William Barr as Attorney General? And when that happens, might it change the flow of events in the RussiaGate show?
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First thing on a Monday morning!!! Are you being bad :-)?
That was the plan, I saw it. A SWAT attack in text. Not everybody is going to read the WA PO today:
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Trump tweeted angrily after the arrest: “Greatest Witch Hunt in the History of our Country! NO COLLUSION! Border Coyotes, Drug Dealers and Human Traffickers are treated better.”
A real life troll. A genuine real life shitgibbon but that’s another story. Genius shitgibbon is my point. Trump puts out teflon statements that dilute further any meaning in a drama so far above the heads of most everybody that jets look up at it. A drama choreographed to be ignored.
Whatsa lobbyist and strategist noted for using opposition research mean? Whatever it is that’s what Roger Stone did for beans. Maybe it is not so hard to figure out but no matter what you have to stop and think about it and we all have better things to do than that. Otherwise it is just so much noise so the distracting and ripping up of everything not nailed down in a Trump fire sale can proceed in peace.
Straw man reporting. Straw man trolling. Play the mark from both ends. Walls – Swat raids and the endless reporting of everything inane thing that goes on but nothing that matters. A swat raid has much sound and fury but it signifies – nothing. So the question could, and I think should be, what is being kept off the news?
Yes, I do want to know that as well. You say that Trump is proceeding with a giant fire sale. Tell me more about this. What is he selling and to who? Or is that the information you are after too?
That is the info I’m after too. I don’t have answers, I’m just a dog.
Trump made a fortune off exploiting government loopholes. That is indisputable fact and his interest in government I’ll advocate was birthed in a self serving search for loopholes and opportunities. Now the bull is in the china shop or the fox is golfing in the hen-house. Take your pick. You don’t have to be a German Shepard to figure this out.
Now the endless investigation into something to do with Russia. Something that might not even be, probably won’t be, probably can’t be, illegal whatever it is. Russia is a country and Russians are people. This whole thing is no less idiotic than claiming:
Oh my god somebody has been COLLUDING with Trinidad.
You don’t have to be an Alaskan Husky to figure out some shell game is going on, serious distractions are hiding something and doing it very well. Can the opposition be so clueless? I think not so perhaps COLLUSION can be describing something after all. And this dog thinks, what is the common denominator in all of it.
What do neo-liberals and neo-conservatives have in common. What force could be behind all the distractions and I guess:
Money.
Well I have to agree with you K-Dog. Money is at the root of all of it. Whatever IT ultimately is. I don’t and never had any notion that Trump was/is a saint. I am not surprised if he used his position to better position his businesses/investments. So many of them (maybe all) play these games. The neo-liberals and neo-conservatives seem to be part of the “Uni-Party”. Maybe we should call them the Money and Power party.
Globalism. Some of us are human, and we have figured it out.
Could you answer for me why chicanery on the shady left should be investigated. While all the shady goings-on on the right is simply innocence being mischaracterized by the shady left. According to the permafrost mind of Kunstler that is.
Kunstler saluting Roger Stone for his courage should have caused reflex projectile vomiting onto computer screens across America. At the very least it should inform one as to the decay that is proceeding in Kunstler’s sense of right and wrong.
Mueller and Rosenstein are the obstruction of justice, as long as their sham investigation continues they are allowed to place the DOJ and FBI and its actions off limits.
I’ve concluded we need to deputize some people, even me and go to their offices and homes with a search warrant and take the evidence and end this nonsense and reform both institutions.
Yes, please do a citizens arrest! In fact, maybe if thousands of citizens decided it was time for citizens arrests something would actually happen?
This is a battle for control of the Federal judicial system
Who is the highest law of the land? The Deep State has pushed the FBI into that role, and they are beholden to the DS as a consequence. Thanks to James Comey, the FBI changed from the finest investigatory cop in history to the judge advocate for the Democratic Party. The current judicial system is the justification for the existence of the Swamp. It still sickens me to watch clips of Comey saying that HRC was a bad person re internet integrity, but we are not going to do anything about it. Imagine if a conservative non Deep Stater named Mueller did the same thing? Fat chance, But you know, he may have to do that yet!
Who should be the law of the land? The ultimate judge of what is righteous? Think oversight!
The Congress has oversight authority over the DOJ and its gestapo, the “ intelligence” community. They are the guilty party here. Instead of indicting criminals in the DOJ, they make lots of noise but take no action. Especially the ones running for President in the next election.
Hey, there is an idea. There are so many egomaniacs in Congress, maybe we can just make the Senate into a collective Presidency and avoid all the claptrap about balance of powers. Say, maybe that is what the Communists is the Democratic Party want as they drive toward totalitarianism. What a bloodletting that transition could be.
Do people realize how close we are to a socialistic dictatorship with the DOJ in charge. Law setter, judge and jury, that pretty much wraps up need for anything else. American republicanism destroyed by the cops. Who needs a military overthrow?
Schultz, of Starbucks fame, is considering running for President as an independent. How sweet that will be. Sound familiar?
A businessman running for President with the fear for the future of America as his motivating principle. A narcissistic Democrat. Appalled at the state of his own party?
Already, the Dems are attacking him, Trying to stop him before I he starts.
Schulz vs. Trump, no political party involved. That might be a formula to stop the Progressives. Sign me up!
I don’t agree that it is Socialism being set up though. That would imply a concern for society at large. An authoritarian oligarchy is setting itself up in a sort of soft coup using the keystone cops. They believe in corporate welfare and planning so that is more of a Marxism thing isn’t it?
Socialistic dictatorship, ie Communism. The USSR was an authoritarian oligarchy, Everything for the party, the Party, singular. That is what the power hungry Progressives want.
Western Europe is Socialist – and that means lots of private business, large, medium, and small. But none of them allowed to do only what they lust to do – make money. That’s unbearable to you so you slander them as Communist. You can’t stand people being held to standards because at some level you identify with the Capitalist Criminals who get to do what lust to do.
You still refuse to believe that the Capitalists funded Communism. So who do you think did?
Schultz? An expert on public bathrooms and lavoratories.
That alone should get him in.
Facitilies at many Starbucks now feces, urine ridden shooting galleries, hep C and AIDs infected needles strewn about, which SJW barristas have to clean up several times a day. They are being issued gloves by the company, but these gloves may not be tough enough to stop needle pricks.
Think of these Barristas as the Shock Workers of the New World.
Workers of the World Unite!!!
Fist in the air! (the fist has a few needle pricks in it, and is trickling blood)
Brh
Maybe Schultz can get DC to decide how many bathrooms are needed in a public facility.
Maybe there should be a movement to draft Richard Sackler, of Purdue Pharma, for the job. After all, he and his family are the chief culprits in the soaring rates of opioid abuse over the past two decades.
The present crisis dates to the release of OxyContin back in 1996. This newfangled pill, destined to become the drug of choice for Rush Limbaugh among many others, has been a gateway drug for many, many people to graduate to the big leagues of injecting themselves in bathrooms. The CDC estimates prescription drugs including OxyContin killed an estimated 218,000 people from 1999 to 2017, a time when overall death rates from opioid overdoses increased by a factor of six.
Baristas getting needle pricks are only the collateral damage of pharmaceutical company greed. The real money is in victimizing ordinary people with deceptive marketing, hounding doctors to overprescribe, and flooding the market with as many pills as possible. When you think of people shooting up in Starbuck’s bathrooms, think of the Sackler family: among the world’s greatest, yet most underappreciated, drug dealers.
Amen to that, Elrond.
By the time they changed the formula they pretended was unproblematic when they knew it wasn’t, the addicts couldn’t use the new one and were sitting targets for the heroin dealers.
Why is no-one in jail?
No one is in jail, GreenAlba, because the USA has a two-tier justice system.
At the low end of the scale there are relentlessly punitive policies, including mass incarceration, as well as the pervasive tax-farming of poor people through fines, fees and compounding penalties that led to demonstrations in Ferguson, Missouri. Meanwhile at the top end of the scale, the apex predators at the top of the financial food chain can endanger the entire world economy, as they did in 2008, and not only get off scot-free, but pay themselves bonuses from government bailout money.
I highly recommend Matt Taibbi’s book The Divide if you really want to learn more. I just hope you have a strong stomach.
You keep talking like that Elrond and you and I might wind up becoming buddies. The level of degradation that has taken place here in the Untied States is disgusting. Not only do the laws only apply to the “Little People” but They Who Rule have become arrogant enough to come out and declare it publically.
My respect for you is real, Walter B. And if I have sometimes been obnoxious in those cases where we disagree… which I have been… I’m sorry. I consider myself highly flexible, as long as my personal principles aren’t at stake. When I feel they are at stake, I become completely inflexible. That’s not always pretty, but I still think it’s better than having no principles at all. Stay the course, my friend.
Meanwhile, it’s clear that a boundary has been passed. Consider just some of the things that have happened in the past week:
– A 29-year-old freshman member of Congress floats a 70% marginal tax rate for high income earners, to general approval.
– Striking teachers in Los Angeles win their major demands. Instead of hiving off public revenue for the billionaire-promoted movement for privatized charter schools, students will benefit from smaller class sizes, and there will be nurses in every school.
– When a billionaire coffee merchant suggests he may make an independent run for the presidency, he’s greeted as a deluded egotist.
– The annual gathering of billionaires and their hangers-on at Davos gets lectured, multiple times, about how they are the problem. One of the presenters is a 16-year-old girl who understands the world notably better than they do.
– Senator Bernie Sanders introduces an estate tax bill with a top rate of 77%, applying to the wealthiest 0.2%.
In short, it’s now clear to a majority of the population that the pendulum has swung too far in favour of the wealthy few. That doesn’t guarantee that they’ll be able to swing the pendulum back, but I find it all very encouraging.
For want of a slash… Doesn’t WordPress have a visual HTML editor? Jeez.
It’s an affront that they place themselves above the law. I can accept that Bill and Hillary Clinton pay a fine and are shuffled out the door and kept out, but the underlings have carte blanche to turn American into two tier state for their benefit has to be squelched.
Thanks Obama you useless check cashing figurheaded dope.
Wasn’t the hope and change you were looking for :-)?
Great fun to witness the scooping up of yet another pathetic barnacle that has (naturally) attached itself to the Gasbag-in-Chief. We marvel at the kind of lowlife garbage Trump attracts (this one with a Nixon tattoo on his back no less) and know deep down that this is not the end.
Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi admits openly that she uses the same strategies to deal with this Klown as she does with grandchildren. America once again stands tall.
You never surprise with your posts. You should attempt to shake things up a bit :-).
Word is that Justice folks thought Stone would have been dumb enough to leave electronic evidence around, namely, passwords for encrypted comms. Thus, the quick raid. Even Colon would have flushed his goods if given opportunity.
I like your forward thinking though I may not agree with you per se on the political side. But in the end what does that matter when we need to eat? Thank you for the survival prep reminder! I need to be doing more this week on that front and will.
Global Warming too: 25 below zero in Madison, Wisconsin. Actual temperature not wind chill. Fair in Height not Celsius.
I’d like to call attention to this quote from our host: “Mr. Stone represents a certain kind of stock character in American politics: The Joker. In the Batman sense of the role: the sociopathic trickster.” Not only does Roger Stone have a Nixon tattoo on his back, but he has dressed up as The Joker, including full evil clown makeup, and tweets out pictures of himself in costume on occasion. Stone doesn’t just represent The Joker, he is a real-life one.
On the subject of reality imitating fantasy for our entertainment, Donald and Melania Trump and Kellyanne Conway earned four Razzie Awards among them for their appearances in “Death of a Nation” and “Fahrenheit 11/9.” Donald J. Trump (As Himself) is nominated for Worst Actor and he and “His Self Perpetuating Pettiness” for Worst Screen Combo, while Kellyanne Conway and Melania Trump as themselves are up for Worst Supporting Actress.
Going from the ridiculous to the sublime, at least in terms of the awards, if not necessarily the nominee, “RBG” earned two Oscar nominations, one for Best Documentary Feature and another for Best Original Song. These are the same two categories that “An Inconvenient Truth” won, but I don’t expect “RBG” to repeat the feat, as I anticipate either “Shallow” from “A Star Is Born” or “All the Stars” from “Black Panther” will win Original Song instead.
America is not standing tall at all Defcon5, but rather is lying in a pool of it’s own spittle on a rat eaten Lazy Boy stuffing cheezy curls into its yap if they are enjoying this farce. And the thought that Nancy the Clown Pelosi has spawn that has spawned once again creating generations of scum bags such as she, will guarantee that America has fallen down and will never get up again.
Walter B
Once more presenting the phenomenon of projecting images of oneself in the guise of attaching them to persons he fears and disrespects.
Taking into account the tediously long number of hours you’ve spent posting drivel on this forum and for such a niggling audience of similarly life challenged wannabe pundits I can well imagine your Lazy Boy has spittle aplenty to back up your rather indirect admission.
Nancy Pelosi is far and a way one of the most accomplished women in the entire history of politics, the kind of woman HRC wishes she could have been but was in fact the complete opposite.
Seems like you are right here along with me baby so hop on the Lazy Boy and join me (even if I do not have one). Being retired has its perks and the time I spend here in between remodeling the bathroom, or redoing my daughter’s closet or working Saturdays and Sundays works itself in very nicely. What is your excuse? All of you whiners seem to think that you can spew about DJT all day long yet we cannot hold opinions about craven geriatric hags like Pelosi? Have you not paid heed to every single futuristic novel including euthanasia for the ancient ones who cling to the power they lied, cheated and stole to achieve until their last breath? There was a reason you know, for those with no future should not be allowed to dictate the future for those who follow, especially when they rob them blind on the way out. Are you some kind of Bolshevik or something ? Perhaps you are a “my way or the highway” type. I tell you what, if you STFU so will I. Deal?
The contributions from most of the women on this site are absolutely hilarious. Confirms that a nation that would even consider giving them the right to vote is already in a state of deep decay.
Yes, crazed hags on meth apart from a cherished one or two.
Genesis 3:6 – “And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.”
Whether you believe it or not, ” it was pleasant to the eyes”, deception by appearance is often the failing of all of we humans, and especially, I dare say, to those women whose emotions and feelings rule them above all. And today, the men are being conditioned to also be so easily swayed by feelings aren’t they? It is not good.
This is why women remain children all their lives, for they always see only what is near at hand, cling to the present, take the appearance of a thing for reality, and prefer trifling matters to the most important. It is by virtue of man’s reasoning powers that he does not live in the present only, like the brute, but observes and ponders over the past and future; and from this spring discretion, care, and that anxiety which we so frequently notice in people. The advantages, as well as the disadvantages, that this entails, make woman, in consequence of her weaker reasoning powers, less of a partaker in them. Moreover, she is intellectually short-sighted, for although her intuitive understanding quickly perceives what is near to her, on the other hand her circle of vision is limited and does not embrace anything that is remote; hence everything that is absent or past, or in the future, affects women in a less degree than men. This is why they have greater inclination for extravagance, which sometimes borders on madness. –Schopenhauer
Walter
When I first came across your posts, my impression was of a ‘classic republican’ who could express his views with a degree of moderation & some sensitivity.
What’s happened in the interim?
Well I am by no means bashing women as a whole, for men can be far more easily bashed for the faults that we have. Pointing out shortcomings, just as you have for me is a healthy way of going about discussion. Coddling one another is strictly counter productive. There most certainly is a time for sensitivity, but right now, with the state of this nation, I would argue that a large dose of reality is long overdue. And I am certainly no republican. I am a Kennedy Democrat ala 1963 and no that does not include Teddy. He was a bum.
Is this pointing out shortcomings?
“…the thought that Nancy the Clown Pelosi has spawn that has spawned once again creating generations of scum bags such as she, will guarantee that America has fallen down and will never get up again.”
Really, it just reads like vituperous RAGE, which is pointless and self-demeaning.
Yeah, but what part of that is wrong? Men don’t make women wear clown makeup, white face and grotesque red lips like AOC, etc. The “foundation” is simply a symbol of the lies and inner corruption.
If the shoe don’t fit, you don’t have to wear it. But if you insist in identifying with women as a group or tribe, then you must be judge with the collective.
What is wrong with that Majella, besides the fact that Nancy Pelosi is a self-serving sellout, is that the trend is for these politicians to hand down their power to their own children and grandchildren as the kings and queens of old once did. Yes, I will admit that , my remark was over the top and probably uncalled for, but I am so frustrated at these families of power not only keeping the reins in their hands until they are dead, but passing them on through their influence. We now have a permanent, spoiled ruling class in America and that was not exactly how this country was set up to operate. My apologies. They are so above the common people and so uncaring that this is no longer a nation with representative government, sorry.
Hmmm… facts are important, right?
Here’s what I could find in a brief, shallow search of Pelosi’s ‘spawn’
Christine, 52, is a strategist for the DNC – okay, so she’s political.
Alexandra, 48, is a journalist…
Paul,Jr, 50, in ‘various businesses’ and posted a snap of himself with Ivanka at the 2018 NY Mar-a-lago bash on Instagram
Nancy Corrine – 55, sales director for the Fairmont Hotel in San Jose
Jacqueline, 51, married & living in Houston (can’t identify her occupation), married to an Irish citizen ( with an American mother)
So, can you explain to me how she is ‘installing’ her children into positions of power, dynasty style (unlike Trump who does it all in plain sight)?
Yes, such class. Did she hone those strategies with Ed Buck?
Who says the Stupor Bowl is the highlight of the late winter season? Looks like the boys and girls in DC are gearing up for one ripping good Mardi Gras Festival on the Potomac of their own this year, which should last at least until the 2020 elections brouhaha semi-officially kicks off in the fall. Actually governing? That’s so 19th century!
What are they paid for? I hear they also get the best retirement and healthcare benefits.
Yes, and don’t you just love that all those poor ole gubmint workers are now getting their back pay. Listening to all of the bellyaching over the last few weeks, you would have thought they were the most oppressed of the world. How many in the private sector would receive back pay after their business shut down? But, we’re all back to business now and all’s well that ends well.
I was touched by the empathy expressed by dull-normal Wilbur Ross. A little insight of the kind of thing rattling ’round in the brains of our Dear Leaders.
Not exactly. The IRS is now saying it will be more than a year before they fully “recover” from the shutdown. But you are right, when a private company shuts down workers have to basically fend for themselves.
And isn’t the IRS hairball yet another backdoor handout to the rich? Perhaps that was the plan all along …
Of course it is. Everything in our society is geared toward the wealthy and powerful. And it has been that way for a long time. At least they are cutting settlement checks to the Tea Party groups they persecuted during the reign of Hussein.
Hey Ol’ Scatch. Your Marci’s Gras, starting the 15th, is the 2020 kickoff.
As I said above, this could end up being a contest between a businessman, alienated by his party, and a businessman alienated by his party.
Dee Trump, Schulz is a bigger threat to your Progressives than Trump.
Isn’t life grand!
LOL… Schultz is full of crap and probably everyone knows it. He is no more running for Prez than I am. He just wanted on the Trump bashing train and 60 minutes gave him that opportunity. More of the ongoing “look at me I’m running as a Democratic Presidential clown show.” So now going forward every time his name is used in the media it will be preceded by former Starbucks CEO and “Democratic Presidential contender.” The Dems would suicide him and drop his body in Fort Marcy Park before letting him run as an independent.
I can see the Washinton Post press release… “former CEO and Democratic Presidential contender Howard Schulz was found dead early this morning in Fort Marcy Park with 12 stab wounds to his back and several nail holes in the back of his head. A machete and a partially loaded assault nail gun were found at the scene. The local authorities including the coroner, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer have ruled the incident a tragic suicide.” In other news Starbucks officials have decided to reduce prices for all mocha choka ya ya ya yas to $14.00 a cup while Mr. Schultz, former CEO and Democratic Presidential contender lies in state at Starbucks international HQ Seattle, WA…”
Late winter season , Scratch? Its dead midwinter, unfortunately, Temps going to -25°F in a few days.
Brh
Roger Stone is not Gordon Liddy (who shut up and did 2 years in prison)
Anyway,seventies were fun.Stone will sing.
Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.
Karl Marx
Ellsberg’s Leek Soup
Ehrlichman’s Cover-Up Casserole,
Kennedy’s Contented Sole,
McCord’s Spilled Beans,
Billy Graham’s Eggs Benedictine,
Hunt’s Hush Puppies,
Republican Peeking Duck,
Mitchell’s Cooked Goose with Stuffing,
Cox’s In-Peach Chicken,
Martha’s Sweet and Sour Tongue,
Liddy’s Clam-up Chowder,
Magruder’s Dandy Ly’in Salad,
Sauteed Slippery Eels a la Deanoise, and
GOP Cookie Crumbles.
No Dem cookie crumbles for you?
And, as punishment for being the only Watergate criminal who kept his mouth shut, Liddy did his two years in a maximum security prison, where he was carefully assigned to a cell block where he was the only white man.
He describes his methods of survival in prison in his book “Will”.They may not work today but it is interesting to read.
Also Liddy did not bother to be present at his trial.When the Oath was administered “Do you swear to tell the truth…” he simply said ” No ! ”
That is the spirit of a lawyer educated at Jesuit-run Fordham U !
Yes, a great Master. Instead of killing his opponent with commando techniques – and then being attacked by the whole gang – he boxed him and won respect.
Funniest thing happened later.In the 90’s Mr.Liddy made peace with Dr.Leary (whom he tried to arrest and eventually arrested) and they toured the country together like peaceful cat and smiling mouse.
Guys like Mr.Liddy make Life interesting no matter how many u-turns they make during their careers.
All we see now are fat slightly deranged women doing jumping jacks screaming ‘WE WANT JUSTICE”.
Maybe one of the millenials will turn off his iPhone and manages to read Mr.Liddy autobiography “Will” ?
“He describes his methods of survival in prison in his book “Will”. They may not work today”
John,
Not today, and nor did they then. I still have the book somewhere. His account of him walking nude from the shower the length of his cell block, singing the Chorale piece from Shillers “Ode to Joy”, and cowing the blacks was a hoot….
Snitching seems to work like charm.Still remember one headline ” Grammy for Sammy !!! ”
Sammy the the Bull Gravano flipped,sang like canary and got 5 years for 19 murders.
Yet another reason to respect Mr.Liddy who kept his mouth shut and received the longest sentence of them all.
Watergate: Who Did What and Where Are They Now?
https://www.history.com/news/watergate-where-are-they-now
Lets wait and see what Mr.Stone will do.
” another reason to respect Mr.Liddy who kept his mouth shut and received the longest sentence of them all.”
John,
Yes, Mr. Liddy presented himself as a “stand-up” guy, and he walked the walk. His book, however, is full of accounts that by any measure would be considered “creative”…like his childhood angst of lightning….
His methods worked for him – probably not for the ordinary person.
I can identify with his angst: I was terrified of dry thunderstorms as a boy. It seemed nature had gone wrong. Where was the rain? It seemed as if God or the Gods were angry….
Zzzzzzzzzzzz. Zzzzzzzzzzz. Zzzzzzzzzzz.
Just 76 years ago, we were bombing Germany and Japan while Germany was slaughtering people in a wholesale method. 76 years is yesterday. Today, it is news that some asshole is having a boil reduced.
We are a very silly society. Childish in everything especially to do with finances.
We are soooo screwed.
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They are scraping the bottom of the barrel with Roger Stone. Ole Rog will give them what they want, if it’s in his power. He’s not one to live out the rest of his days penniless and imprisoned.
Roger Stone authored many books on the JFK assassination and uncovered a ton of critical evidence in his work. Even a Coincidence Theorist might find it interesting to see that he is being singled out and demonized by the New Gestapo. I wonder if he will utilize this opportunity to bring the MIC’s execution of our president into the spotlight and maybe even bring about the disclosure that we who know have been screaming for for over 50 years now.
I do not think that I am the only one who is damned sick and tired of this mindless. pointless charade that the maniacal lunatics on the left continue to pursue and piss away our time and money on. They must really truly despise We the Little People to continue to blatantly screw our collective faces into the steaming dung pile with this crap. Is the American public so useless, so stupid that many of them buy into this or find it to have any value whatsoever other than lining the pockets of stuffed shirt lawyer scum? I don’t get it. It pretty damned unfuckingbelievable.
Stone believes as I do that LBJ was behind the assassination of JFK. He differs in the mechanics of the hit, but not in the soul of the hit. That the country went along with this charade is a testimony to LBJ’s planning, which was superb. You couldn’t outwork LBJ, it was impossible. He thought of everything and then some when it came to JFK. I still marvel at it. Put the shoe on the other foot. Say JFK was LBJ’s vice-president. Say LBJ was assassinated in Massachustts under highly suspicious circumstances. You don’t think Texas would have demanded an investigation. People don’t realize LBJ was the first president form the south since the Civil War, and he had to kill JFK to get there.
I have read “The Man Who Killed Kennedy” and was very impressed with all of the real life work that Roger Stone put into it. You know, when you think about the assassination and subsequent takeover by the MIC and then the Congressional investigation that declared conspiracy, America is still stuck in the throws of trying to pull the truth out of the whole covered up coup aren’t we? Didn’t Donald Trump come out and say something about getting to the truth of this issue when he was running? Wasn’t he stopped from releasing all of the evidence as well?
Maybe the raw hatred for Donald Trump all comes from those trying to squelch the JFK truth. I can only hope because I really get sick when I am lied to and screwed over for profit. I want disclosure now. Go get ’em Donald and Roger, play the Coup Card!
It isn’t just JFK, 9/11 lingers over us as well. In fact, I think for Gen X, it is the defining issue. Explains a lot of the rage.
Trump has also commented on 9/11.
Excellent that you remembered that and brought it out here. Well done! They have done us so dirty that it screams for truth ever moment of every day. I can only hope and pray that one day enough people will wake up and give a damn about something other than what is living in their underwear and do something about it.
America changed forever in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963. There has not been a serious threat to the establishment since then.
Yes, let’s not forget about 9/11. And what about the economic crash of 2008? Was that another game? Seems like Wall Street won.
Well Walter, I am a Gen Xer, and 9/11 was life changing for nearly everyone I know. Some won’t admit it openly, but I think that nearly everyone knows on a gut level that we were sold a pack of lies.
The parallels between the media dissemination and public reaction to the 9/11 fairytale and the next Big Lie, that of “Russian collusion,” are striking.
I feel like the last nearly 20 years have been an extended psychological experiment on the masses.
Well Nightowl you can never know how much joy your comment filled my heart with. Thank you for showing me that there are young folk out there that can still feel what is truth even if there is little we can do about correcting it. And I love owls. I have called Great Horneds down from the mountain top and Screeches up from the fields below. Raptors are so cool.
Walter,
Fantastic. We have an arboretum down the street from our home here in Germany, which is home to several different species. They are amazing creatures.
Seawolf
LBJ was uncannily shrewd in the ways of the Deep State, but he had to have lots of help within the Deep State to do the execution, and then covering it up. The Warren Commission was well rewarded by the Deep State for their BS.
Jerry Ford’s ill-begotten presidency and ’76 nomination was almost certainly due to his loyal participation in the Warren Commission whitewash. The man was even less telegenic and presidential than LBJ, which is really saying something.
Jerry Ford was never president, he only pretended to be and did a real bad imitation of it too. But yes, if you play, they pay and it would seem that we are still stuck here on the JFK/MIC Merry Go Round. Where’s the brass ring damn it?
Don’t forget Arlen Specter, the formulator of the single bullet theory. Well rewarded, to be sure.
A friend of mine who grew up in Philadelphia and whose father was a hot shot PD detective swears to me that “Uncle Arlen” Specter used to show up for Thanksgiving dinner occasionally at his house. One time my buddy asked Specter, “Uncle Arlen, who shot President Kennedy?” and was told, “Well it certainly wasn’t that pasty that Jack Ruby shot!”, he and Larry’s Dad laughed, turned away and went to the living room for brandy and cigars. Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows.
My personal impression of Roger Stone is that he is a nice grandfather with an interesting style and love of bow ties. I hope he will expose much about the MIC. I think a good portion of the public is unhappy with what is going on but many people bury themselves in their own lives and have little time to get involved civically. Working more hours and making less money for many people by the way. Once people start starving or cannot access their bank accounts you will see action.
The last time that had similarity to the Information revolution was the agricultural run up to the Great Depression. Farmers around the US were dislocated from their generations old occupation by technology, namely the internal combustion engine..See also, The Grapes of Wrath. The farmers flocked to the cities to find sustenance with little luck. The Depression ended when WW2 put them back to work, either in the military or here in factories. The surplus worker pool was remedied in part by the horrendous losses of the war.
Yes, the American public is that stupid. Combination of illegal immigration, and the stupidification of the education system. How do you make the education system a joke? Get the Federal Deep State involved. Remember about retention, each generation is producing teachers more politically influenced and just plain dumber. The kids are the result.
New democratic majority in Ct, first 2 laws out of the gate:
1) mandatory instruction in Global Warming and Climate Change in all public schools.
2) mandatory instruction in African History in all public schools..
Brh
Very telling isn’t it. A complete remolding of the mind and a new vision for the future.
You left out sex ed and Gay is Good.
Jerry Steinfeld, a hardcore Liberal, was freaked out when his daughter chastised him for saying he wanted her to be able to meet boys. She said, you never say boy and girl. You just say meet another person.
You meant Seinfeld, right?
Seinfield’s daughter would most likely never have to work a day in her life if that were her desire.
What does she know?
“1) mandatory instruction in Global Warming and Climate Change in all public schools.”
Alba, take note….
elysianfield
I would like to respond to your post, but I have ‘taken note’ of something else on this thread, so I will leave my hopefully helpful advice to montsegur as my only ‘contribution’.
I have noted, as have others, that certain comments have been deleted. I am not aware of what they are, so I don’t know if any of them are as offensive as:
“The contributions from most of the women on this site are absolutely hilarious. Confirms that a nation that would even consider giving them the right to vote is already in a state of deep decay.”…and:
“Yes, crazed hags on meth apart from a cherished one or two.”
Now, I’m fine with either particular posts being deleted – I’ve had one or two of mine deleted – or none at all.
However, when I see that posts can be deleted for being ‘annoying’, but it’s OK to post the two comments above, I conclude that I am not welcome either, so will refrain from commenting until at least the next post. Which is a shame (for me, anyway), as I planned to respond to you, as well as to a comment from JohnAZ on a shared interest. But one needs to retain a modicum of self-respect.
Alba,
Take heart. You are welcome here, insofar as the general readership is concerned. You join a club (of large membership) of those who have felt the lash of our host…myself included (and I marvel at his forbearance in my case).
Is she, though? In decent and welcoming company, or so it seems to me, one of two things could happen. Either the one who made the comment that GreenAlba (and I) found offensive would have known better than to make it; or if that person went ahead and laid down their contribution, they would have been sharply reprimanded by the community.
Neither of those things happened; things carry on, as though someone hadn’t left a turd on the table, and a voice who should be welcome finds herself silenced. For myself, I try to maintain standards of my own, in the face of what passes for normal around here; and I get called a prig, and things much worse than that.
Elrond,
Do we not enjoy indulging in the polemic? Outright rancor, when encountered is not celebrated, but rather seen as a breech of decorum, a failure of civility.
Who amongst us is not guilty of a momentary lapse? Remember that sometimes we must all feel the need to step away from civility, raise the black flag, and start slitting throats….
Elrond
Thank you for the support. I’m glad someone found it as objectionable as I did.
I think the fact that none of the ‘men’ said anything was the most disappointing. If someone says something antisemitic, it shouldn’t be left to a Jewish person to object. If someone says something purely racist, it shouldn’t be left to a black/brown person to object (as if…).
If there’s not enough solidarity for someone to say ‘oy, mate, you’re bang out of order there’ then there’s simply no respect left.
On most British sites, of course, apart from the most rabid corners of cyberspace, someone coming out with something like that would have been flattened in chorus with the mockery and derision they deserved.
Read Brave New World again – a world run by Corporations who bio-engineer their workers to be happy in their work. This is the world you want. You just lack the courage to admit it – even to yourself.
As a former Public school teacher , I never thought I would find myself saying that it is time to put an end to public school as we know it in America. The singular event that now makes this a necessity is the fact that White students are now a minority in public schools
https://www.publicschoolreview.com/blog/white-students-are-now-the-minority-in-u-s-public-schools
Entire populations that exhibit poor impulse control and a near total lack of future time orientation are sitting in largely inner city classrooms like the one I recently ( attempted) to teach in. The results speak for themselves. In Baltimore, there are multiple schools where not a single student is listed as ” proficient” in state exams. Multiply this result by considering Detroit, St. Louis, Chicago, New York , and more. The worse these dysfunctional systems become, the more the educational intelligentsia push the social justice , victim narrative. Back in the early 80’s , a colleague of mine who at the time was nearing retirement, made an extraordinarily prescient statement. He said that when blacks ran the educational system, they would have no more excuses. He got the first half right, but the excuses just keep coming.
Do you still believe they are equal to Whites as a race? Obviously they are not mentally speaking. Just as they excel us in some physical ways.
Worth repeating.
“The worse these dysfunctional systems become, the more the educational intelligentsia push the social justice , victim narrative.”
Whites and Blacks are equal. The problem is the black experience is not as integrated in a clearer vision as the white experience. Everyone has been “scattered” -(catch all for the ying/yang carousel) for a long time and now maybe bio-nano-tech’o’uck.
{P.S}. Ingersoll lockwood, author of, “Baron Trump’s Marvellous Underground Journey”
In the index of “Laconics of Cult”
The Gods that exist are born of those that exist no longer – Rig Veda
The idea which man calls god only exists in the consciousness of man himself – Bulwer-Lytton
PUBLISHED BY THE AUTHOR
SARATOGA SPRINGS, N. Y.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingersoll_Lockwood
Our author in a previous incarnation?
Nowhere in the Vedic Literature is human equality proposed, either between individuals, castes, cultures or races. The exact opposite viewpoint is held.
Flail and Fail. Of course all things are born of Divinity, so in that sense, the black dog and Black dog eater are equal to the White Brahmin – but that’s not what you meant.
scattered visions in all directions as sociological shrapnel. suburb zoning law foxholes with market manipulation.
Dancing and music with large crowds grow smaller each year the streets grow silent. Fed and In-come tax spending grows on graphs like engine oil getting hot.
63′
Kennedy, the holographic shot
…….*&&etcd
I wasn’t talking about test scores. I also wasn’t talking about giving them a reparations account with “white” tax dollars. Nor how they might keep their persona property, family, or interpersonal relationships.
Nor do I want give them a heighten sense of worthiness because of skin color or state and national art, intelligentsia, fiance,or engineering funds because of that..
I keep a general practice, if I need to remove myself from a situation, I do. I think it is unfortunate that all cultures are pressed away from their autonomy.
Who likes living in this global Monopoly game?
Janos – I’m looking for symbols- blacks know symbols intuitively – Wisdom comes from all sources. A giant gold block in a dumpster of chinese food and black molded books is still a giant golden block.
“this mindless. pointless charade that the maniacal lunatics on the left continue to pursue”
Hello Walter, my $.02 on the priorities of the “progressive” left.
I would not call their behavior ‘maniacal’ so much as driven by faith. Their belief system is faith-based, and one of its tenets is that they are the ones doing good, thus anyone who opposes them must be demonized in order for their vision of ‘good’ to triumph. In their faith, then, Trump is clearly the anti-Christ.
Note carefully how mystical Obama sounded when he spoke of the “arc of history” bending this way or that. A very New Age way of looking at the flow of history, coming straight out of the mouth of one of the demigods of this cult-like faith billed as “liberal progessivism”.
Now, where have we seen instances of people who abandoned traditional religions only to substitute The State as He who must be worshiped and adored? Oh yes, that’s right … that behavior was a salient characteristic of both Nazism and communism.
Of course, so many Americans today are ignorant of both traditional religion and recent history, that these dots are not connected. To the great detriment of the USA, I submit.
I would just like to see two political parties who are more in the center and more concerned about addressing real priorities for our country — things like crumbling infrastructure, design of livable areas in towns and cities that don’t require people to always be on the road, and so forth.
Too much to hope for, I know.
Cheers
Well said and all so true. Ignorance is only bliss for those doing the deceiving, and far too many people in this once great nation are so easily deceived and manipulated for the betterment of those at the top. Sad, so very sad….
It occurred to me after reading about the setup to oust Maduro this past week that following the news is seeing little guys being destroyed over & over & over again, year after year after year.
Human nature, crush the bugs!
Nature — yes, we are all bugs, it’s just that some bugs are more equal than others. Why was I made to shrink from the horrors of barbarity, a recessive gene?
Reopening the government when the President did allows folks on welfare to get their monthly checks, and thus avoids multiple repeats of the LA riots.
Yeah, it was a close one!
“No welfare checks, no peace!”
Brh
Heard a story that 30 Dems told Trump that they would back the wall, but could not while the government was shut down.
The next three weeks are going to be interesting.
Just announced that Stupor Bowl bets exceed 6 billion, with a b, dollars. One football game can resolve the wall conundrum. Ha!
That thought crossed my mind as well. Get corporate sponsorship for it – the NFL comes to mind immediately, since their fan base is one of the more vocal supporters of the wall – and be done with it. I’m sure they could market it effectively enough to turn it into a “win-win” for all and Goodell could add another notch to his gun of great accomplishments.
Goodell’s great accomplishment is his $1 million per week paycheck.
Go Pats!!!
Brh
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Do you think maybe Jim has farmed out the job of reading all the comments and keeping a tight leash on offensive comments? Maybe this has become somebody’s part time job and maybe this person is more of a hard ass than Jim.
“As I often point out here, history is a trickster, too. Things fly out of left field from it all the time. Pink elephants, black swans, honeybadgers, World Wars, flash crashes, and Roger Stone.”
Maybe Roger Stone IS the honeybadger in this sad tale (referring to the viral video). lol
Ugh, now we have Kamala instead of Obama. Black, a female and someone who had her knee pads on while making sure Wet Willie Brown had a reason to “ help” her career. Come on DS, you can do better than this whore dog.
LOL WOW – I am shocked this is coming from you! I heard about Kamala “working her way up to the top”. What happened to #metoo? Oh yeah! That’s right, hash tags are for when you need em – then you toss em. Sort of like sugar daddies.
Yes, apparently, Kamala was working underneath the boss (Wet Willy) in various and sundry positions.
Brh
He said he helped “many women” even Barbara Boxer! Bet she loved that.
Downtown Willy Brown …
What a cad!
Brh
Wasserman-Schulz bringing “democracy” to Venezuela, the effort in Syria being resupplied through Irag, Russian permanent representative to the U.N. openly denigrating pompous Pompeo, the left calling for more war – silence
fairly easy to see why those bought to shitgibbon the government are such dunces when one considers ole Joe sixpack actually accepts this foolishness as real.
thanks dog!
Shegibbons to the rescue! Lord Buddha warned against this saying, Woe to the men of a land where women gain control.
Meet Andrew Weissmann, a federal prosecutor, main henchman of Mueller prosecutorial mafia, who made a 25-year career out of destroying people’s life with malicious prosecutions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh6Y4nr5mkc&t=148s
Imagine yourself as a target of this guy.
tl;dw
The most disturbing part of this whole Stone arrest was the fact that the Criminal News Network was tipped off and was there ahead of time to record the sham. Doesn’t anybody else find this disturbing? Does this not indicate that it is all a case of manipulation of the public, or at least the low information public? Donald Trump has a long public history and it is easy to understand why so many people dislike him. Just the fact that he was born wealthy and remains wealthy to this day is cause enough for the chronically jealous to despise him. But Roger Stone is a totally different case. What kind of fools jump on the hate wagon just because they are told to by some bobbing head on the TV? How simple are those that love who they are told to love and hate those they are told to hate by ill intentioned self servers in the media? Heck, the majority of the idiots will never meet in public or even know enough about who they love or hate to form opinions in the first place. America turned to crap when so many gave up thinking and simply did and thought the way they were told to.
A societal by product of the socialistic, no, Communistic movement of the folks. Individuality becomes a victim of the movement. Why should we question those in power?
The US from its inception has been a society of rebels. Not so much today.
Having that network present to film the raid spoke volumes about how those wielding power perceive the nation at large: as Lumpenproletariat who should above all be kept distracted.
Yes, it -was- disturbing.
Cheers
Subject change for a moment. Just ruminating!
Climate change
I am getting tired of folks using the “It is so cold, how can there be global warming.” Sorry folks, IMHO, global warming is causing the deeper incursions of the cold polar tongues.
Why?
As the temperature gradients increase from pole to equator, the intensity of the flux, ie wind increases. Think Jupiter wind belts. The friction between the belts on Earth causes rotational movement, just like the storms on Jupiter. The winds increase, the friction increases and storm intensity increases. Storms enlarge in size as a consequence. Storms have two parts, lifting warm air northward on the east side, and plunging the west side in deep freeze as polar air moves south.
The end result is heat being blown off the oceans and land in the temperate areas. More heat, higher winds, more friction, bigger storms, deeper incursions from both sides of the storms.
That is why New York swings wildly, also the Midwest. 55 degrees on Sunday and the -10 degrees on Wednesday after frontal passage.
The good news is this is Gaia trying to blow off heat, the bad news is that eventually the ice boxes at the poles will melt and no one knows what happens then.
Also the effects of extraterrestrial effects are interacting with the heating at the equator, and we do not understand this.
I laugh at folks for “knowing” what is coming and thinking they can do something about it.
But it is coming.
Sorry for the interruption, the mind is wandering today.
I have long grown tired of the discussion of whether or not it even exists and when I ask “So what are we going to do about it, I get silence”. I am more than willing to accept the argument that Global Warming, Climate Change or whatever it is called next is real, but what do we plan on doing to deal with it? What is the “Plan”?
My point is exactly that. We cannot do any thing about it. There is no plan. Nor should there be. Who knows what would happen if we throw something really out of whack by messing with something we know little about. Climate change needs to be de-politicized.
We need to decrease our impact on Gaia so that the Earth can adjust to us. The direction a lot of the anti-fossil fuel folks point is a start, but until viable alternatives are found, nothing will happen.
Yes, if our “carbon footprints” have to be reduced or eliminated, that would require us abandoning or severely reducing oil, gasoline, coal, and natural gas to fire the electrical generation facilities wouldn’t it? Is this not the case?
Well JohnAZ,, I think it’s more a matter of us adjusting to the Earth than the other way around. The Earth will be here long after we are gone, and if we don’t change our ways, it will be sooner than later. We have increased our population to an unsustainable point unless we keep using up resources, which will create it’s own set of problems. If we reduced our energy consumption to the level of the 1900s, say, then our current world population could not be fed or cared for. I suspect there will be a great die-off, one way or another. There’s no easy way out.
Captain/Walter,
Well said, both. “Carbon Footprint” is a code phrase for “quality of life”…give it a name….
“Who knows what would happen if we throw something really out of whack by messing with something we know little about. ”
JohnAZ, if we’re putting the system seriously out of whack by increasing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, we’re hardly going to ‘put it out of whack’ by reducing our emissions drastically to prevent it getting out of control, with positive feedback loops kicking in.
How we reduce our emissions is a different problem, but to say we shouldn’t be doing anything makes no sense.
And Walter, when you say ‘where’s the plan?’ (we do indeed need some plans), you’re forgetting that when a lot of people of a certain political persuasion hear the word ‘plan’ they throw their hands in the air and shout ‘there, I told you so, it’s not about the environment at all, it’s about a one world government conspiracy.
So nothing gets done. Because ‘plan’ is a dirty word and humans are almost devoid of logic and common sense.
Nothing will be done until something biblical happens like 70 inches of rain falling in 2 days, preferably in Washington DC.
We need to have a serious discussion about not bailing out, people and businesses exposed to ruin by what’s coming.
52 inches of rain on Houston seems biblical to me.
“A rain of Diluvian proportion….
I was there. It was.
Gradual warming would be far easier to deal with than a drop into ice age conditions. Or even a slow descent into them. Such things happen regularly. Read some history. Roman England was warmer than today even without industry.
The dinosaurs lived in a much much warmer climate. There have been warm spells periodically throughout history. Periodically, like on a schedule.
Human reaction to climate changes in the past have been violent at times. When climate changes the location of optimum living conditions, stronger humans take. With today’s geo politics and overshot population, the future is going to be interesting.
“Human reaction to climate changes in the past have been violent at times.”
A few years back, there was an ‘speculative’ paper regarding climate change produced by Andrew Marshall’s group at the Pentagon. It mentioned something like the need for no regrets national strategies when the situation gets sufficiently chaotic. Interesting reading.
Cheers
The Rockefeller Foundation published a report in 2010 outlining the four future scenarios they saw playing our:
LOCK STEP – A world of tighter top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership, with limited innovation and growing citizen pushback
CLEVER TOGETHER – A world in which highly coordinated and successful strategies emerge for addressing both urgent and entrenched worldwide issues
HACK ATTACK – An economically unstable and shock-prone world in which governments weaken, criminals thrive,
and dangerous innovations emerge
SMART SCRAMBLE – An economically depressed world in which individuals and communities develop localized, makeshift solutions to a growing set of problems
http://www.nommeraadio.ee/meedia/pdf/RRS/Rockefeller%20Foundation.pdf
Sounds like James Howard Kunstler is rooting for the Smart Scramble, or at least hoping.
If anyone wants to check out the 2003 Pentagon document I mentioned, it can be viewed here.
Cheers
https://eesc.columbia.edu/courses/v1003/readings/Pentagon.pdf
Quote:
Executive Summary
There is substantial evidence to indicate that significant global warming will occur during the 21st century. Because changes have been gradual so far, and are projected to be similarly gradual in the future, the effects of global warming have the potential to be manageable for most nations.
Recent research, however, suggests that there is a possibility that this gradual global warming could lead to a relatively abrupt slowing of the ocean’s thermohaline conveyor, which could lead to harsher winter weather conditions, sharply reduced soil moisture, and more intense winds in certain regions that currently provide a significant fraction of the world’s food production. With inadequate preparation, the result could be a significant drop in the human carrying capacity of the Earth’s environment.
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Mont,
If you are trying to figure out how to italicize (or to bold) text, be advised that the brackets have to be the less than and greater than symbols which appear above the comma and period respectively on the standard keyboard.
Thanks Q. I tried both as I couldn’t recall which format worked here.
Cheers
Hi montsegur
This site is good as it both gives instructions and has a ‘Try it Editor’ button so you can paste in a whole comment if you want to and check you haven’t missed anything, like forgetting to close brackets. As a member of the HTML kindergarten class, I have found it invaluable.
https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_formatting.asp
Thanks, GreenAlba.
Cheers
Which way does the moral arc of the universe curve? JHK is the optimist, hoping that something, somewhere, will re-set things to rights, history being the trickster, full of improbable happenings, impossible co-incidences.
Maybe a mis-directed email, a thumb-drive that turns up unaccountably where it wasn’t meant to, a dropped wallet at a crime scene, maybe one indictment too many, maybe something will burst the dam holding back this sea of Democrat and Deep State poop.
It’s really gotten beyond a cess-pit, grotesque and Dante-esque as it is, qualifying as the hole where history’s malefactors ought to be stuck upside down by trident-wielding demons.
But I think that the universe doesn’t necessarily bend towards justice at least not before a lot of bad shit comes to pass. And, what we mean by “justice” is merely acting in accordance with the limits set by reality. These boundaries tolerate some abuse, being maybe bendable, but surely not breakable.
The USA refuses to acknowledge these limits, certain Americans thinking that THEY make reality. And so the republic will fall on its face for following a misbegotten ideology, a view of the world that bears no resemblance to how things really are and how they really work. Trump will walk on-stage and walk off again having accomplished little against entrenched interests that may know that what they’ve set up can’t be sustained but who won’t countenance changing course. It won’t be outside forces that toss America onto the garbage barge of failed arrangements.
volodya, thank you for getting the MLK quote about ‘arcs’ correct. I misspoke above when I called it the ‘arc of history’ and credited it to BHO.
Cheers
I did some mangling myself.
Oh well. What did Ronny say in Moonstruck? I ain’t no monument to justice?
I’ll paraphrase the overemotional Ronnie with the mangled hand: I ain’t no monument to scholarship.
All is forgiven Mont. Your posts are well worth reading. Always have been. Keep em coming.
V
You are right, but there are outside forces that would love to help us put ourselves into the pit.
V.,
“The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice.” — Theodore Parker
Well, I (for one) think that this assumption/supposition is/was nothing more than a rhetorical device to encourage hopeful strivings without any real proof of its accuracy.
The universe seems to throw out just as much “undeserved” punishments as it does “happy” accidents. You say that there are far and away too many variables to predict which way the froggie will jump. I’d agree.
“The USA refuses to acknowledge these [set-by-reality] limits, certain Americans thinking that THEY make reality. And so the republic will fall on its face for following a misbegotten ideology, a view of the world that bears no resemblance to how things really are and how they really work. Trump will walk on-stage and walk off again having accomplished little against entrenched interests that may know that what they’ve set up can’t be sustained but who won’t countenance changing course. It won’t be outside forces that toss America onto the garbage barge of failed arrangements.” — Youse
That seems to be a realistic prediction… just don’t forget to include all ‘affiliations’ in the criticism of Wha-happen?. Hegemons of all stripes must be acknowledged in this history of what not to do, otherwise the lesson is woefully incomplete. (I generally mistrust one-sided non-arguments, especially when promoted by happy-talkers, utopia-seekers or power-brokers. Turns out, they just have an aversion to doing their own dirty work; pretending they’re “workin’ hard” [tm GW Bush] when doing nothing but planting their wide asses on a comfy throne and pointing.)
Lastly (I know, this is too long already!), what is being *ignored* at this crucial point is getting no jabber or concern. It shows me that this fictional “arc of the universe” is not bending in the favor of the human race (and all other living things on this planet) a’tall. We can guess the main cause without much pondering.
I guess that the guessing and pondering would lead us right back to what’s right under our noses. We look at the varieties of humans that we co-existed with until not so very long ago, ie 10,000 – 50,000 years ago, and they’re all gone. GONE. The universe didn’t give a fuck for them, nope, when the ice age ended and the climate warmed they disappeared fast as fuck. The universe IOW don’t do any bending, nope, it’s the creatures that bound around in its confines that do the bending. We call things names, we call the extinctions of humans the Holocene Filter, as if it makes things better for those that died. I can’t imagine it was a lot of fun. And we talk about moral arcs of this and that. But, if such a thing exists, that moral arc has got to fit itself within certain parameters. Some stuff goes, some stuff does not. The laws of nature dictate what does, what doesn’t.
“I can’t imagine it was a lot of fun.”
Yeah. The lucky ones came to a natural end still in the company of family and other members of the tribe. For some, they died besieged by mortal danger, or, perhaps, cold, hungry, and utterly alone, calling out to their vanished ancestors and tribe. No bent moral arcs there.
Cheers
“a battalion of federal inquisitors who never have to submit invoices for billable hours.”
JImbo, the inquisitors do submit invoices. They don’t work for free.
You, I, and several million other people pay the invoices. Every April 15.
Trump attacks Anne Coulter and Fox News for pressuring him to build Wall. Then boasts he’s doing great with Hispanics in the polls! As for Whites? He’s never even mentioned us. This looks like a dying presidency, with Trump completely at odds with his base as the wolves circle around him closer and closer. Will his precious Hispanics fight for him? We would have.
When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground.”
Anne Coulter is a Boston feeding leech.
She is a great Patriot from CT. I think BRH said he knows her or was it Caitlyn Jenner?
Anne Coulter is the leech that feeds off the sh*t kicked-up by bottom feeders.
She pokes the bear and collects $.
All she does.
She’s great on the Wall. You don’t like the Wall because you don’t like America and Whites. And that’s why you don’t like her.
About that time (GOT) again, ain’t it.? Trump’s in desperate need of a dragon or two.
Seriously? When was he talking this smack, I haven’t seen it? We would have put up a big fight for him. Gee I hope this is not right because if so I am like super disappointed.
I’m now starting to think that all of this effort against Trump is to kill populism. The Republicans and Democrats, two sides of the same coin, need to send the American public a message. You can’t go outside of their control.
For decades to come anyone running for office that embraces populism will be compared to the despicable Trump. Before their campaign can get traction, they’ll be cut down by the media. The message is do not question globalism, endless debt and endless war. More of the same is coming.
The contradiction that we are spending millions of dollars to investigate foreign tampering with US Elections while willfully championing overthrowing the democratically elected government of Venezuela.
This nation something fucking else
Populism has to be a victim of a Communistic takeover. Individuality must be squashed. There are too many guns out there in the hands of folks willing to use them.
That is why a primary target of the Progressives is gun control, no, elimination.
These folks comprise the Deep State.
JohnAZ, what is the Deep State? Who comprises the Deep State? What is the objective of the Deep State?
Answer as if I was a sixth-grader.
The Deep State is a group that has formed in Washington DC with the purpose preserving the Federal government at all costs. Comprised of the bureaucracy, most of the members of Congress, the lobbyists, many of whom are former legislators and up until Trump, most of the Presidents and their administrations. Others lumped in include members of Wall Street, the military industrial complex and many corporate entities tied closely to the government. The focus of the Deep State is the preservation of the Federal government as the supreme power of the land, and it is comprised of Liberals and RINOs like J. McCain who was famous as an example of a Deep Stater.
The Deep State has been around since the 50’s and some folks blame the JFK assassination on elements of the Deep State.. aka the Swamp.
Trump is hated by the Deep State because he wants to remove their power base, to drain the swamp.
Actually I think the Deep State that JohnAZ refers to is known as COG, Continuation or Continuity of Government. It was formed in the 1950’s to assure the continuation of government in the event of some apocalyptic event.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-911-plan-cheney-rumsfeld-and-the-continuity-of-government/5320879
“The contradiction that we are spending millions of dollars to investigate foreign tampering with US Elections while willfully championing overthrowing the democratically elected government of Venezuela.”
No Youman,
Perfect example. First thing the phony new El Presidente of Venezuela does is call for privatisation of the oil industry and loans from the neo-con/neo-lib IMF. I wonder who benefits from this? (No I don’t.)
This should work out really well for the impoverished of that country (just as it has before, eh?).
Also, the mountain of lies surrounding the killing of JHK, the Vietnam “police action”, 9/11, invasion of the Middle East, worldwide military base network, etc., etc., etc., is all in the service of quelling any notions of populism. (Remain Calm and OBEY; everything is under [our] control.)
Watch for the Stone seizure to morph into building a case against Julian Assange. We can’t have any unauthorized information outlets exposing ugly truths to duh publick, now can we? Nope, we really don’t see how deep in the shit we’ve wandered… and ‘they’ are making damn sure any landmarks showing the way out are obliterated.
El Presidente of Venezuela does is call for privatisation
Yeah, it worked really well in Russia in 1990s – the loss of population probably exceeded the demographic losses of the Second World War.
I think this is probably where it is going. Keep in mind RS is also associated with Infowars, which, regardless of what one thinks of Alex Jones, is also on the hitlist.
Personally, I think it is all going to backfire. Stone speaks well and there is a reason he is banned from nearly every MSM platform.
“…Stone will do what he said on the courthouse steps: he won’t bear false witness against Mr. Trump. ”
Good. I don’t want him bearing false witness; I want him to bear honest witness against Mr. Trump, and if he does it will sink Trump. I’d bet Trump understood exactly the threat implied by Stone’s words.
Mr. Kunstler, I find your posts more and more uninteresting, lackluster, and lacking in relevance. – johnthebookman
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The above sentence from a comment that was here just a few minutes ago is now gone. I find it hard to believe that our host is zapping comments just because someone doesn’t like his essays all of a sudden.
I think JohntheBookperson is simply just another in a long line of people here who suffer from confirmation bias…they can’t believe Jim can write things that they don’t believe in.
Yes, Bookman John is a latter day Goodman Brown. What will become of his Faith if she was wanders into a witch’s orgy? Nay, and what of his?
I think we all can identify with hearing the revels in the clearing up ahead and know that we must not go or see – because the seeing would be the end of us. What dark demonic forms is she cavorting with? We know that she is there because her lace something or other comes fluttering down from the forest tops on the lap of the wind. Mercy indeed. Time to turn around, young Bookman John. Go back to the solace of your books. Your Faith will never return, not unsullied and unchanged. What returns will we be only a simalucrum (sp?) of what she was. Far better if the thing doesn’t show up at all so one doesn’t have to make pc excuses in breaking it off.
When a man proposes to a woman, he is supposed to get down on one knee and pledge his fealty and present an expensive bribe in the form of a diamond ring. How different is once was! Then a father would beg a Man to take his daughter of his hands and offer up an expensive bribe to sweeten the deal. And of course it was taken for granted that the girl could cook, sew, mend, have babies, raise babies, etc. No kneeling to her like a slave in other words.
What the fuck happened?
Women are excellent manipulators. Been at it a long time in our culture. Men, not so much. Read Esther Vilar’s “The Manipulated Man”.
When a man proposes to a woman – Janos
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Speaking of which:
There’s a hilarious cartoon on page 21 of the current New Yorker magazine…two cave-women (in animal skin dresses, bare feet, straggly hair) are sitting, each on a rock, and each holding a glass of wine, inside a cave and chatting. One woman is extending her hand to show the other and says “It was weird. He got on his knees and put this rock on my finger and asked me to spend the rest of my life with just him!”
Diamonds. I wonder how that all got started? Do the same people own the diamond mines, advertising industry and media? The man wonders how this insane custom got started.
Well you know how the wealthy have a tendency to start trends…
https://www.americangemsociety.org/page/diamondasengagement
How many carats did you get? I’d rather give a girl some carrots saying, If you marry me, I will give you these carrots. No kneeling. She can kneel to me if she likes and beg for marriage. I would then say, Get up and lets eat carrots while I decide (if I was undecided).
A bit over one carat but not two :-). No kneeling at all! And I am guessing if you decide you want to marry her you are going to expect those carrots to get cooked with dinner ;-)?
Well it’s (kneeling) a romantic gesture and I think it’s amazing personally. From what I have read it likely comes from the chivalry of the Middle Ages but wasn’t a thing in proposals until the 19th century. It’s not a slave thing. It’s supposed to be a “baby I love you will you be mine” thing. The girl’s family will spend a ton of money on the wedding don’t worry, in fact most of it really.
It’s only wholesome if men are above women in status. If not, then it’s just submission and the repudiation of Patriarchy.
Chivalry was an elite thing way back when men were WAY above women in status. It got really weird with women being valued more than men, etc. Now it’s even stranger since were supposedly equal – even though women are favored at every turn. I admit there’s beauty in it in that context. By doing that, a man is going against the grain and saying to the women: Though society says otherwise, as does the Church, I fine in you Divinity itself. I think it’s for the few and should never have become a popular ideal – so much so that it is expected or even demanded. As an individual thing it could have value by a man showing appreciation to an individual woman. Then a woman could really treasure it because she had earned it, not as just an expected submission.
It’s said in the Old South women were put on a pedestal. But they were expected to live up to that ideal. If they didn’t they were knocked off. It wasn’t the blank check it has become today in other words. If you’re going to make it popular, that’s how you do it. Thomas Jefferson wrote about the chaos a beautiful young vivacious woman was causing in his circle. But only for a season. She was expected to choose and she did. Jefferson commented, The Madness was over. If she hadn’t chosen? Well then she would have been seen as a different kind of woman, one no longer welcome in good society.
And guess what? Women won’t marry men who make less than they do and find men who make the same less attractive than those who make more. Again, Men are supposed to be above Women. Feminine psychology is geared for that, not for what we have now.
Hmmm, I have to think about this post for a while and really let it set in. As it is I could probably respond with a giant essay that would fill up the wall here and it would probably go off in different directions so let me not do that :-). I’ll come back to it tonight.
Ok so I do think I understand where you are coming from when you say that mens’ status would have to be once again higher than that of women for you to feel that kneeling to propose was not some form of male submission or repudiation of male power. In today’s world I can definitely see where the deck is being stacked in womens’ favor which makes the alleged equality that we are supposed to live in seem not so equal after all. I think this whole toxic masculinity push as well as the general and consistent dressing down of men is going to backfire (witness the backlash against feminism here) in ways that become particularly unfavorable to women, especially in some sort of societal collapse situation. In my heart of hearts I can’t stop looking at it (kneeling to propose) as a romantic gesture but I also don’t feel like my views of mens’ roles fit into the common viewpoints that are being foisted upon us. I can see now why you feel strongly about it and I am actually glad to see it from a different angle.
The South and women lol, where to even start. I still think women are put on a pedestal in Southern culture. However, the good ole boy culture still pervades to the degree it has not yet been snuffed out by PC mania. Southern men love their women but domestic violence is unfortunately very common along with that. You know, the whole I love you so much I may kill you thing. Well that may be a little too out there but you get my drift. Men in general are also very very confusing as to what they expect from women. Sometimes men want the whole sweet, girl next door virginal persona. Then when I guess the mood strikes they are into the naughty girl persona. But which is it at any given time who knows. And either way when I would go to church or just when I go to the store I see men looking at me no matter what I wear. It’s nice to be noticed, especially when you have put in the effort to dress nicely or cute or whatever but I know that men are super visual so I always feel a little self-conscious and self-aware, and it is even a million times worse with your man who makes his likes and dislikes crystal clear. I call it the pressure to appear lol.
I can’t argue with you about the whole money/earning thing. Who isn’t attracted to success? And who doesn’t like getting all their bills paid without having to work, or working less? So in that sense by all means do please take the wheel :-). But seriously, I understand what you are saying. So I knew I would go on and on here but I suppose you’re right. And just to let you know, and as you may remember from previous conversations that I never really thought we were equal anyway. I think men and women have different and unique capabilities and this modern attempt to reshape everything sucks and is messing everybody up whether they know it or not.
I trusted you would understand. Thus did I speak from my heart.
Yes, men are all over the place and always have been, but now the standard has fallen so even the good don’t know how to behave.
“Southern men love their women but domestic violence is unfortunately very common along with that. You know, the whole I love you so much I may kill you thing.”
That’s not love, SSL. That’s ‘I want you but I love me’.
Anyone who says ‘I love you so much I may kill you’ needs (a) therapy and (b) a restraining order. And if they come near you again, (c) incarceration.
And anyone who stays with someone who says it and has the possibility of leaving (not everyone has, especially those without an independent means of support) needs their head examining.
Stone, for all his political hired-gun cinematic pizazz, has nothing on the truly vile David Brock.
Also consider that most on the left have no idea who DB is. It’s amazing how one so vile can keep such a low profile.
Pathetic and degrading. The people’s confidence in their government is on a continuous downward spiraling trend. Those who know history know that these are the early warnings that an empire is dying.
No. Of the birth of a new autocratic order.
100th,
Correct. History is rife with potent examples.
Chris Hedges sez:
“…Just as ominous as the visible rot is the internal decay. Among all social classes there is a loss of faith in the government, widespread frustration, a sense of stagnation and entrapment, bitterness over unfulfilled expectations and promises, and a merging of fact and fiction so that civil and political discourse is no longer rooted in reality. The nation’s isolation by its traditional allies and its inability, especially in the face of environmental catastrophe, to articulate rational and visionary policies have shattered the mystique that is vital to power. “A society becomes totalitarian when its structure becomes flagrantly artificial,” George Orwell wrote. “That is when its ruling class has lost its function but succeeds in clinging to power by force or fraud.” Our elites have exhausted fraud. Force is all they have left.”
Looks to me that’s exactly what’s transpiring. I think JHK would agree.
Oz, there is nothing here that remotely resembles say, the Red Guard in China or the NKVD in the Soviet Union, party police forces and instruments of terror the state used to coerce and liquidate large swaths of the population. There is no party army like the SS in Germany in the 30s and 40s. So I don’t see a lot of force being employed against us. For example if Liz Warren got to be president and issued an edict stating that every American with a private home had to take in 5 refugees, who would enforce it? Local police are still bound by law and the Constitution. I see fraud as the more likely instrument the elite use to hold onto their positions, and we are seeing that now.
Don’t forget Orwell, despite being tracked down and marked for liquidation by Stalin’s Secret Police in Spain, and knowing the truth about the brutal conditions inside the Soviet Unon, remained a communist until the day he died.
brh
Some say he was beginning to moderate. I mean he was probably for Stalin at one point, right? He loved England and didn’t seem to realize that Communist was Globalist by definition. He would certainly loathe today’s politically correct mobs and the Elite masters.
M.,
Should we remove the ideological lenses for just a moment, I think we’ll find this an accurate description of the modern American zeitgeist:
“A society becomes totalitarian when its structure becomes flagrantly artificial,” George Orwell wrote.
“He was a commie” will not suffice for a denial of what *is*.
Fraud not force to retain power and wealth?
Just. You. Wait.
(What do you think this mass surveillance and data collection is all about?)
Keep the aspidistra flying Ozone
Keep the houseplants flying? I am too dense to get this.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aspidistra-Flying-Penguin-Modern-Classics/dp/0141183721
Another one for your growing reading list, SSL 🙂
Thanks Alba, noted on the list ;-).
Surveillance capitalism. The ruling class’ function has been to obtain, grow, and protect wealth using the state apparatus.
Free trade, WTO, tax breaks, broken social contracts, cheap and illegal labor, visa indentureds, off shoring of profits and income and on and on.
Those with power ($$$$$$) are doing anything to maintain it.
Rather amusing how Howard Schultz runs as an “independent” citing the 70% income tax on the 1% as unamerican.
I was watching CNBC about a half hour ago and John Bolton and Steve Mnuchin were explaining sanctions being placed on a Venezuelan oil company. Their appearance on TV raised a couple of questions in my mind:
1. Does John Bolton own a mirror? Has he ever noticed how ridiculous his mustache looks? Doesn’t he get food stuck in it with every bite? God knows, he could use a good trim.
2. Has Steve Mnuchin ever watched video of himself speaking to the public and noticed his weird facial tics and looked into whether anything can be done to get them under control? Some tics are curable and others are not.
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When they announced the new law in New York permitting the abortion of babies anytime up to the moment of birth the Crowd of Satanists cheered.
The switched on Millennial bloke on the website Blackpilled.com speculates that societal conditions are going to have to get much worse before they improve, and that the Elites still have a lot of room to keep the people anesthetized with Entertainment and Calories. (He suggests stockpiling food, water, and bullets. ) I would also add drugs and legalized Weed to the mix. A lot of people just want to mentally check out and to return to the Womb, which is ironic given the new New York abortion law. I read “Brave New World” on the Beach in Byron Bay, New South Wales. A hippie chick gave me a beat up copy…. The Hippies ironically became instruments of Totalitarianism as they doubled down after their Utopian communes went Tits Up…,
All of the big wealthy zip codes in the US, like XXXXX, Connecticut, now all vote Democratic. We recently looked for estates for sale in XXXXX, Connecticut all in the $8 million to $15 million range. Huge palatial estates typically owned by New York hedge fund managers. They had one thing in common: The bookshelves in the homes were basically devoid of books, and the books on the shelves were generally popular tripe. In short, the Elites don’t read, and, therefore, despite their Ivy League pedigrees, they are illegitimate.
Are you the new elite? OMG is this another British invasion?
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Read fast: why do your irrelevant comments stay and my relevant comments get zapped?
From JHK:
I deleted QStick’s stupid post and i will keep on deleting yours.
You’re not welcome here and apparently you can’t take a hint.
Thank you for owning up. And good bye. Best of luck.
Well if it’s muscle, it will help them be better athletes than some one who is small down there. When it’s all fat, then it’s storage for the hard times.
What’s in order now is a poem about Willy Brown and Kamela Harris by CFN poet ‘Squeaks’. Here’s the first stanza to kick things off.
This is the story of fixer Willy Brown
Said to Kamela “I’m ready to lay the hammer down”.
Demurr Kamela was ready to oblige
To keep her political career alive
Take it from therem Squeaks.
Brh
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“Maybe twenty-nine FBI agents in tactical combat gear and a fleet of SUVs with K-Force LED lights flashing wasn’t enough to flush out the arch-villain Roger Stone from his South Florida hide-out.”
This isn’t hyperbole. This is something one sees in a banana republic.
Political police troopers. The national police carrying out a coup. Over-the-top.
A wall ain’t going to stop us all goin’ bananas
This arrest was evidently ordered by Mueller as a wanting to other suspects to not mess with Mueller’s team.
CNN knew about it before it happened. CNN is working with Mueller.
This is honestly on the same level as the Gestapo in Nazi Germany. That much power in a man that is unelected. Able to intimidate the president, he is the most powerful man in DC.
We are investigating the Bad boys in Russia with a team of thugs that are worse.
And I thought “Deleted by Admin” was a cool new meme people were using. My mistake is amazingly like those people at the Hard Core show who thought a swiftly spreading fire was a just a “special effect”.
Are you talking about the Station Concert fire in West Warwick RI back in 03? I think Great White was the band, has beens even then. Yeah, I think about 100 fatalities when a pyrotechnics stunt went awry, concert goers thought it was part of the show. And what a show!
Jim means business, not willing to suffer fools gladly any longer. I hope he doesn’t catch on to me.
brh
Yes. Janos wonders too. Soon the cries that I am Mr Kunstler will begin again. I am not!
One poor guy spent all night under a bunch of bodies. He just tried to go home when they uncovered him, but they wouldn’t let him. Of course such things are only amusing from a distance. Pretty sad stuff. Medical people dull themselves out by mocking the people they work on. People have woken up to hear this. L Ron Hubbard said it enters the Unconscious in any case. Thus Tom Cruise said that Only Scientologists should be in Medicine because Only they have the “tech” to deal with things.
Wow you said it before me :-). How did you know what I was thinking? Maybe you are like that man Andre Linoge in the Storm of the Century. I think you made that reference before and it is intriguing. They say truth is stranger than fiction.
I love that movie! How did you know? He is the Ideal Man, though he needs a bit of work on his morality.
I remember one time you mentioned something to the effect that maybe you were like him. I remember funny little details :-).
I feel bad for Nicholas Maduro. He works really hard at his little mustache and beard just like Saddam did. He seems like a nice guy. America is supporting a Beto O Rourke clone over him.
Is he really better in some way?
Total collapse is one of the themes of this site.
In Venezuela there’s economic and societal collapse happening in real time right at this moment, and its not a pretty sight. Murder, mayhem, disease, starvation, breakdown of the rule of law and so on … what puzzles me, the early supporters of Hugo Chavez, like Danny Glover, Sean Penn, Bill Ayers, Michael Moore and Robert Kennedy Jr., big millionaire celebrities come to back the revolution with much fanfare and publicity, jetting into Caracas for photos with the great leader, where are they now?
brh
The whole Class Mentality Thang is really weird. According to one of Trump’s favorite books, “The 48 Laws of Power”, one rule of Power is the need to separate yourself from the mob so that the people hold you in awe. Hence, Trump’s ridiculous Trump Tower with the gold signage, etc. That much I get. But I could never actually see myself living in such a guilded cage. It’s a kind of mentality reflected in their view of themselves, learning, and their place in the world.
The bookshelves in the Connecticut estates of the Wall Street Hedge Fund managers were generally spartan. Some of the hardback books on the shelves appeared to be “Trophy Books”, placed for display presumably to try to impress guests. The “kicker” is that these ostensible “Trophy Books” seem to reflect the owner’s interpretation of what constitutes “Erudition”. But the cold Truth is that the Books were “Second Rate”.
I suspect that much of the “Progressivism” of the East Coast super rich may just be a facade of open mindedness, a kind of snobbery to distinguish themselves from the uncouth Trump Deplorables?
When the Democratic Party turns Bolshevik, these people will bolt for candidates like that Starbucks weirdo?
If the Rich are basically “uneducated”, especially if they haven’t read any History such that they don’t understand their place in the society, then this could be a huge problem?
It may just be Narcissism? The Rich and the ideological Left are Narcissistic, so they’ll Double Down? It’s no longer about Ideas; It’s about coercion…,and Narcissism….
I always found that a sweet smile and a smidgeon of deference melt those hardened East Coast hearts. Throw in a bit of a lilt and some manners and you’ll have em fooled on who the real aristocrat is.
“separate yourself from the mob so the people hold you in awe …”
from Dostoyevsky’s ‘The Brothers Karamazov’ chapter 5 ‘The Grand Inquisitor’, separate yourself by use of Miracle, Mystery and Authority.
brh
So basically what you are telling me is that they are using my love of miracles and mysteries against me. You know, it’s amazing how much those in power use all of us. They literally use our life energy and our very creativity and productive capacity for their own profit and gain. Most people are at the bidding of the corporate masters. It is very upsetting.
But they’re in love with themselves, so they’ll double down and use coercion to protect their image of themselves? This makes them manipulatable, especially by the Mulattoes like the Oprah’s and the Obama’s. I see that they’re running Kamala Harris….
Don’t get me started on Kamala :-). You can see how hungry she is in still photos. And she ain’t hungry for food.
Jealous?
Silly seawolf :-)! Why would I be jealous of her when I am already so fantastic?
Pick up a copy ‘The Brothers Karamazov’ sometime, SSL. Or any of Dostoyevsky’s novels.
You’ll be fascinated.
brh
Thanks brh, I will have to add The Brothers Karamazov to my growing list of recommendations. I wonder if this is destiny’s way of turning me into a librarian :-)? I need the education though!
revilo, Janos, Walter, et.al–
it’s too bad you guys don’t know any of the women in my circle. smart, beautiful, and often very wise.
you guys really gotta’ get out more.
and try not to be so fearful of the changes that are coming. after all, forewarned is forearmed. (otherwise, why bother reading JHK?)
Hit me up.
Hit me up :-). To add a little flare you should have said “give me them digits”.
Oh I know a few spaceis and one in particular that works in DC for a very special agency that is scary smart who haunts the halls of power. Those women are not part of the problem and if you got that impression from me you are incorrect, the whiners and manipulators are the problem. I have always insisted that men and women are designed to work together and that is how it should be IMHO. Beauty matters not and usually gets in the way. Catherine Austin-Fitts is my favorite woman of all and she wears her beauty on the inside.
What is coming is just another scramble for power. A struggle that will pit all of us against all of us so that those who hold the real reins can avoid assault from below. How it works out shall be how it always works out. Some things just never change nor shall they ever.
A struggle that will pit—
How do the elites protect themselves from the masses?
They build walls.
Or just murder us outright. That is coming and with 5G it will be safe because it cannot be proven. And they will be able to bilk us out of gazillions before we die in medical expenses. I plan on biting the bullet and simply croaking. This life has been great but is not worth begging for.
We are not even one full day into the current thread and already we have 5 comments “deleted by admin” and 2 comments “removed by admin.” Not sure why Jim has not settled on standard terminology.
There seems to be something new, strange and harsh going on here unlike anytime in the past 10.5 years.
While others have their comments deleted my comment is not only deleted but publicly called “stupid.” I am hurt. Perhaps I should take a hiatus until the dust settles around here.
And goodbye to Asoka/janet/deetrump who is for sure the longest running and most prolific commenter on this site. It’s been nice jousting with you…NOT!
I had a comment or two deleted myself. I found it embarrassing that I had broken some unwritten rule or went somewhere I was not supposed to go. When I searched my mind for a reason why, I realized why and it made sense. I would never want to frequent anyplace that had no rules. My world has always had rules and when you go too far either accidently or by intent, consequences always follow and are not always good.
My guess is that this place is supposed to be a place where people can come to comment and add to the general discussion. Those who detract or insult or babble the same old tired drivel, post after post degrade the whole place and should be removed. I applaud our host and hope that he continues to clean house and that those who remain abide by the requirements of being civil and an addition, not a distraction from the exchanges.
Could it be that people are just typing…
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Some might accuse you of being a conspiracy theorist. I would say that maybe you are onto something, for surely the Looney Left denies the existence of boundaries. I put nothing past them.
Well it wouldn’t be the first time I was called a conspiracy theorist that’s for sure. It’s just a hunch.
For JHK
I think you are looking for balanced discourse and CIVILITY.
Please announce your expectations.
I heard that Roger Stone’s wife is deaf. Could you imagine what could have possibly gone wrong had he not been home when the SWAT swooped in? So much about this whole arrest is shady. And Robert Mueller is shady. I would like to investgate him. And I would love to be in charge of the SWAT team that swoops in on him at 3:33 AM. We want our millions of taxpayer dollars back!!!
I once knew a bloke in junior high school who was deaf named “Tommy”. I couldn’t relate to him. The students basically tormented poor Tommy. I figured that only kids named “Tommy” are deaf since “Tommy” is 2 syllables, which makes the lip reading Thang easier for adults?
George HW Bush’s “Thousand Points of Light” must have involved deaf blokes named Tommy since he was often to repeat slowly: “Read My Lips. No new taxes.”
Lol good one! And no matter how slowly he said it, it was still a lie.
First, you have the overcome the overwhelming number of Liberals in the DOJ. They have used this methodology to overwhelm Washington, DC. That is why the exposure of corruption on the Left is constantly suppressed.
They do run circles around Conservatives that is for sure. And they never apologize or admit that they have done anything wrong. Silly conservatives whip themselves in public to apologize for everything and yet have you ever noticed that the media claims only Conservatives can do wrong and that no amount of apology makes a difference. Some games are not worth playing.
Education is a big racket….
https://www.ernestangley.org/college
How do you get from the Google model of Artificial or Machine Intelligence as a product of Algorithms crunching harvested user data or “Behavioral Surplus” to achieved ever higher predictability of “Click Through Rates” for advertising purposes to arrive at “AI” as it is conceived in the popular imagination as a Godlike Intelligent Being that is a Machine? I’m confused.
The model now is to get the demos addicted to internet stuff in order to harvest their data to create consumer predictability products to sell to advertisers. We’re being consumed like Soylent Green.
“For example, Chinese researchers employed by Microsoft’s Bing’s research unit in Beijing published breakthrough findings in 2017. “Accurately estimating the click-through rate (CTR) of ads has a vital impact on the revenue of search businesses; even a 0.1% accuracy improvement in our production would yield hundreds of millions of dollars in additional earnings,” they begin.”
Shoshana Zuboff
The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power
They can predict probably already fairly accurately predict how Trump and the people will react in all kinds of scenarios? For example, they’re probably doing computer analyses at this very moment re: the people’s reaction to the government shutdown and the arrest of Roger Stone? They’ll probably do test runs of food shortages, power outages? Mass imprisonment? They got us by the balls….
Maybe this is what is meant by AI? An intelligence that can make decisions based upon likely outcomes desirable for the Elite?
Pucker
Your life is being run by AI algorithms.
Had Any robocalls lately?
Where do you think all the advertising data from Facebook and Twitter goes? Note if you investigate something in Google, it shows up as an ad a day later? We are addicted to social media and the AI manipulators know it and use it.
Why? Because they can.
Fascinating details about Canadian role in Venezuela coup
Turns out Freeland was instrumental. Obviously, gratuitous failures of Ukrainian coup are not enough. In fact, it seems to be an inspiration. Also interesting, is that US seems to be lagging behind on this one. But the “allies” and the establishment hawks are obviously dragging Trump along. What a sick story: destroy everything just to spite Russians or socialists.
Perfect logic for a grand-daughter of a Nazi collaborator.
On Jan. 4 — a day before Guaido was sworn in as national assembly president — foreign ministers from 13 nations of the Lima Group, which doesn’t include the U.S., said they wouldn’t recognize Maduro’s second term.
That set off a scramble at the White House to make sure it wasn’t being left behind, said a former U.S. official and congressional staffer who was in close contact with the national security council. Both spoke on the condition of anonymity because they weren’t authorized to discuss the administration’s planning.
Playing a key role behind the scenes was Lima Group member Canada, whose Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland spoke to Guaido the night before Maduro’s searing-in ceremony to offer her government’s support should he confront the socialist leader, the Canadian official said.
https://www.apnews.com/d548c6a958ee4a1fb8479b242ddb82fd?fbclid=IwAR1IaIzON63V5tRESx_VhnotdXUfMYpvY0dvPD-DHzNzMEm3_MHJx600VRU
Yup. At least in terms of her global profile, if not actual power, Chrystia Freeland is a top proponent of the Western-allied militarist class that never saw an intervention that it didn’t like — call it The Greater Blob. Pressure in that corner to ‘do something‘ about Venezuela has been building for a while now.
Somehow it slipped under my radar that Colombia joined NATO last year as a “global partner”. This means it doesn’t have to take part in military actions, but it’ll serve just fine as a fuelling station and landing strip for whatever comes next, like Saudi Arabia. And Donald Trump sure could use the distraction right now, after publicly folding like a house of cards on his signature policy. Fun times ahead.
Chrystia Freeland wrote a book a number of years ago called plutocracy which is in my Nook library. All about the domination of the world by very few people in power. A really good read for all of us that despise the autocratic split in the world and a warning of the oncoming feudalism worldwide.
Folding? He seems rather to have put the Dems in a corner. He holds all the cards in the wall scenario, as he can simply declare it a national emergency and divert funds to it. Construction and repairs have been underway for months in some areas.
So, all High Chancellor
PalpatineTrump needs is emergency powers, to re-organize theGalacticRepublic into a safe and secure society? Right, we know how this story goes.Where are the Jedi when they’re most needed? Giving interviews on MSNBC?
It means what I said. He can use the established powers of the executive and divert funding to finish the existing wall on the southern border. And there is nothing anyone can do about it.
This is basically what 5G is all about, right?
““What is Google?” Douglas Edwards recounts a 2001 session with the founders that probed their answers to that precise query. It was Page who ruminated, “If we did have a category, it would be personal information.… The places you’ve seen. Communications.… Sensors are really cheap.… Storage is cheap. Cameras are cheap. People will generate enormous amounts of data.… Everything you’ve ever heard or seen or experienced will become searchable. Your whole life will be searchable.” 2“
Shoshana Zuboff
The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power
AI solves the fundamental existential problem of Man: The problem of not knowing what will happen next. How Fucking Boring….
Make government boring again.
Knowing is a cheap substitute for experiencing, however. Experiencing is the whole point of existence. Fortunately, capitalism in general contains the seeds of its own destruction.
Right. But-
Every time something else in tried in the world, it fails.
When are we going to “harness” the bad side of capitalism to make it work for everyone. That is what should be worked on.
Call it guided capitalism or competitive socialism.
Just no Communism please.
Competitive socialism. Nazi Germany!
5G is about interconnectivity. It’s about not having 200 cars sitting at a red light when no one is passing in front of them. It’s about moving things in a way that is most efficient and safe. It’s about freeing up the productivity of billions of people who drive and allowing them to work on their commute to work. Eventually, when management finally has an iota of trust for their employees, people will be able to work from home. In fact they will be encouraged to work from home because they will be more productive. It’s about just in time everything, not just manufacturing. 5G will be like the first computer/internet boom again. Remember how your productivity skyrocketed. Businesses will be able to forecast demand and adjust accordingly. Very few layoffs. More stability. Better everything. No more ID’s. Everything will be in your phone. Your phone will be voice and fingerprint actuated, able to tell if you’re being robbed.
Thank you I sent that off to the rest of our Committeemen, not that they care. Those of us that worked with this stuff as it was developed have always had grave concerns over the effects on humans. Unfortunately when greedy humans see something that can be used to generate great profits, they wield enough power to crush intelligent opposition. Asbestos, the magic mineral, right!
And able to rob you blind itself. The Beast.
5G is also about enormous profits and social control. All the other “benefits” are purely ancillary; the marketing hook used to draw in the poor unsuspecting rubes. And since we’re almost certainly at peak capitalism now (peak everything, really), any putative benefits will only go to a handful, and certainly not to the many (who will continue to be eliminated in any case). But since capitalism derives its greatest profits from economies of scale (the larger the better), 5G will likely never be widely adopted, so the hype will always greatly exceed the reality. In short, 5G is the product of ill-begotten Utopian linear thinking, imagining a future that will never exist, projecting technological wonders to behold to the horizons in every direction. Good capitalists are suckers for that kind of Utopian nonsense.
Among our MANY critical infrastructure challenges of the moment, 5G doesn’t even come within sniffing distance of the list. In short: another Utopian answer to a question only pie-eyed Utopians are asking.
Thank you! I am just hoping the parish will fix all the potholes in the roads soon. Internet connection speed is fine. I wonder if there are clean and smooth roads in Utopia? Or maybe Utopia doesn’t need roads because everyone levitates in bubble like capsules for travel lol.
Seawolf
Any time a new technology is introduced there are good points and really bad points.
Speeding up the internet will mean the hackers will be able to invade faster and more broadly.
National security will be totally compromised.
Maybe a no secrets society could be a good thing?
I think you are right though, the speed increase may be as impactful as the advent of the PC.
“Maybe a no secrets society could be a good thing?”
Haha, you’d need to ask the guys whose Ashley Madison accounts were hacked and put out there for all to see 🙂 .
Wolfie,
5G? I would be satisfied with simple cell service, which we, in our very rural locale, do not yet have….
Do you work for the Chinese government?
No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Hmmm that opens the door to so many possibilities. I bet you are a spy lol :-p.
Wait a minute?
5G?
You mean that’s not short for 5 Guys hamburgers?
They make a great burger, very generous with the fries, free peanuts and you can dropped the shells right on the floor, and oh, their hotdogs are divine! 5G!
Brh
Airbus uses fuel made from Libyan oil and this problem is solved as Saudi oil has sulfur and it’s very expensive to extract it.
Besidesile EU has no refineries to use Saudi oil.
But Belarus has such a refineries and they just received Venezuela oil and started to produce fuel for Airbus.
If to wait another 90 days the economic crisis in Venezuela is over and economic sanctions against it fell crumbling down.
Besides senator Rubio publicly told Trump that his penis is bigger and now he holds an important vote in border wall case, so only now he has a chance to prove it.
You don’t just appoint a president of another country out of the blue and then grab this country’s resources.
You don’t? Ever heard of Allen Dulles?
LOL! I was going to say, any casual perusal of 20th and 21st century history would put paid to that comment.
Bingo… horizontal, vertical and diagonal.
Lol – wow all the bases finally get covered :-).
You don’t just appoint a president of another country out of the blue and then grab this country’s resources
You don’t since Russia is back as a Katechon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katechon
We might have to invoke the Monroe Doctrine on you Rooskis.
The Bushes are known for their adherence to the Monroe Doctrine, but Bush Sr. said several times that the Monroe Doctrine is incompatible with large-scale US intervention in Ukraine and this is not the position of a Kremlin agent, but a sober assessment of an experienced and victorious Cold War Warrior.
Boston Tea Party or why Americans Exaggerate the Role of Jeffersonian Democracy
So:
Boston Tea Party – December 16, 1773
Earlier June 12, 1773, the British East India Company acquired a monopoly on the purchase of Bengal opium
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Opium_War
America’s conquest and creation of the United States were carried out by quasi-religious organizations, which can be conditionally called “lodges”, and the Founding Father’s democracy emerged as a way for the peaceful coexistence of these lodges, of which the most influential was the lodge associated with the Anglican Church, the British Monarchy and the Dutch West India Company, which also was kind of lodge.
And one of the main distinguishing feature of the ideologies of various lodges was (and still is) their attitude toward the opium trade.
The basis of this compromise was the gentlemen’s agreements of the leaders of the lodges, which survived both the Civil War and the assassination of several presidents, but could not survive the bitchy feminism of Hillary Clinton, who apparently hates every gentleman’s reason for existence since the time when she moonlighted from college as Deep Throat.
Within the framework of aforementioned agreements, you just don’t do things like paying for independent US Presidential candidate (Ross Perot) to steel the presidency from the opposing party candidate (George H.W. Bush), which essentially led to the breakdown of all gentlemen’s agreements between the American elite and lead to the collapse of the American Political system which we are witnessing today.
Donald Trump bid for the presidency of the United States essentially started exactly like the Ross Perot 2.0 campaign of 1992, and also under the persuasion of Hillary Clinton.
Trying to get out of the losing proposition, Donald said all sorts of crazy things (about illegal immigrants and such) hoping to sabotage his own campaign.
But the Intervention of the Higher Forces turned things around, Bastinda outplayed herself and Donald to his enormous surprise found himself on the top of US political Olympus.
Add on the Masonic Lodge to your list. They were very instrumental in the formation of the country.
Your idea has merit though. One of the big goals of the women’s movement is the destruction of good ol’ boys clubs. And maybe the results of their camaraderie, such as the US Constitution.
And the perversion of it a la the ideal of the New World Order.
There are several Masonic Lodges, and not all of them agree on ideology.
The English Lodge broke off communion with the French Grand Orient when the latter proclaimed, There is no God but Man – the ideology of the Kabbalah or even Advaita Vedanta. But is not this same philosophy taught at the highest levels of Anglo-American Masonry, namely the York and Scottish rites? The many Masters of the First Three Degrees really know nothing of Masonry, which prides itself on having “the closed first of the teacher” (see Buddha’s remarks). We could well paraphrase Erdogan at this point: There is no radical Islam. There is only Islam.
Buddha once picked up a bunch of fallen leaves and asked, Are there more leaves in my hand or on the tree? The Disciples replied, On the tree. Buddha continued, Just so, I know far more than what I teach and what you need to know. But of that, I give it without holding back. Thus he opened his hand and let the leaves fall to the ground.
So this famous split was probably tactical not ideological. The Anglo-American Masons decided on the slow but sure path towards World Domination via the slow accumulation of capital and corruption of the masses.
Founding Fathers my ass. More like the Founding Brothers. James Madison was 18 in 1776. Thomas Jefferson was in his early 30’s, as were most who signed. Only Ben Franklin was an old man. This image has permeated to this day. We don’t need no white-haired old man to run this country. We certainly don’t need any who dye their hair orange.
We need to bring back the periwig. Such dignity bequeathed on the young! Snow on the roof even as the fires burned hot below. The ladies must have loved it. Likewise, the demons await your arrival with particular eagerness.
One core of globalization is that antagonistic peoples need to be suppressed. Differences between folks are tolerable until they interfere with the free flow of critical resources globally. Then they are crushed.
The primary cop for this has been the US since WW2.
So, the globalist elements, Soros et al, are shooting themselves in the foot by messing with The US. Later reports are that they are figuring this out and are starting to counter China’s rise.
Iran, Iraq, Venezuela, USSR, Isis and al Queda, the Balkans, Afghanistan, first with Russia, then us, Korea, Vietnam, some of the areas that have disciplined for shaking the tree.
“The controllers produce the daily disinformation propaganda; superficial story-lines designed to play upon your emotions; plot twists designed to invoke hope, despair, anger, fear, and desire; and a ceaseless mantra that the government, mega-corporations, Wall Street bankers, and chosen “experts” know what is best for us.”
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2019/01/29/technology-distracting-disturbing-deceiving-deluding-ourselves-to-death/#more-187847
Can America overcome the controlling influences that their technologies force upon them? Ha, ha, ha right. Americans embrace every stinking technology that is sprung upon them and pretty soon one of those new technologies will replace the bulk of them. The Big Die Off, coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
To those who will accuse me of being a Doom & Gloomer or a Buzz-kill, I would say that nothing can kill your buzz, but I feel, just as our host does, that I am obligated to warn of the dangers even if most are not going to listen.
The Liberal hi techers and the MSM now that hi tech leads to the stupidification and “gimme” indoctrination of the public.
Lots of studies have shown what an indoctrination tool social media is AND how addictive it is. Josef Goebbels would have loved hi tech.
But not Saul Alinsky or Freud’s nephew, Bernays, right?. In other words, you leave out the people actually exploiting us and go after the people who fought them. So, so so very twisted.
I think Goebbels actually had hi tech. We got a lot of our hi tech from German scientists the US took in after World War II. At least that is what some people say…
My hope for the Roger Stone situation is that he ends up being the John Dean of the Democratic conspiracy against the public, through Trump, from the Dossier onward. The attempted coup d’tat was aimed at us Deplorables, ie the folks that elected Trump. Luckily WE, the people, are still in political control in DC. For the time being. WE are losing to the onslaught of Leftist action, namely the college campus and illegal immigration.
When do the early morning raids on big Democrats start?
Or are they all squeaky clean?
Brh
Yeah, right!
LOL – Guaranteed not one Democrat will ever answer for anything. Neither will any Never-Trump Republican for that matter. But definitely not Democrats since they are the party of the Elite and One Percenters.
BP has a cute new ad. Starts out by showcasing a town where the wind blows almost all the time and the wonderful BP wind generators work so well. But once in a while, the wind stops and luckily we have natural gas to back up the BP wind farms.
Wow, a double whammy!
Montsegur, about this “progressivism”; in my view there’s some things coming out of it that helped some folk obtain a measure of justice. Imagine being drafted to fight in Indochina and then being barred from hotels when you’re travelling. There was a lot of stuff happening that just didn’t pass any sort of rudimentary fairness test.
Ok, so you know that anything you say before the word “but” doesn’t count.
But this “progressivism” looks to me like it’s been twisted in the service of agendas that have got nothing to do with elementary justice or even common sense, that where we’re being pulled by the educated – cough – “progressive” elite has got nothing to do with “progress” either.
For example, it looks to me like the lot of Blacks isn’t getting better but worse. It looks to me, with the growing armies of homeless and addicted in major coastal cities, these shining beacons of “progressive” politics, that “progressives” aren’t governing with the interests of ordinary people in mind, let alone the interests of the most woebegone.
We see how in the interior people are dying young, how average life expectancy is dropping, how people die of avoidable “diseases of despair”.
Does it look to you like “progressives” give a fuck about any of this? Not to me. When you say what ought to be self-evident, that it’s crazy to be importing millions of people at the same time as millions of jobs are being sent overseas, that this policy is one of seriously looking for serious trouble, the inevitable accusation from “progressives” is RACISM.
When you say that governments are working against the average joe and that the American worker has legitimate interests, “progressives” howl FASCISM.
When you tell them that the liberal world order, by the evidence of one’s own eyes, is a multi-decade catastrophe for wide areas of the globe, you get shrieks of AUTHORITARIANISM.
You’d think that “progressives”, supposedly so fact and evidence oriented, would believe what you and I believe, ie what we see under our own noses, but no, their rhetoric defies what’s visually obvious.
So, what do we conclude? We can say as you do, that their belief system is “faith-based”. It really is true that some of them are so invested in this framework of ideas that they cannot accept contradictory empirical evidence.
But that, I think, might be a generous interpretation for other “progressives” as it assumes the best intentions among them.
The other, less generous view is that, far from not knowing what they do, they know exactly what they do.
Progressivism has also come to mean full term abortion on demand and acts of violence against whitey on the streets of America. ‘Progressivism’ seems to have come full circle.
Brh
Did you see Cuomo’s attack on the Catholic bishops this AM..
This guy is off his nut.
Yeah, front page of the NYPost today.
When the sins of the Catholic Church are revealed, Mother Theresa will be first in line to cut off all their balls.
Britain defied the Color Ban of America by proudly serving Black troops. After the War, massive Black immigration began from the West Indies. And now White are preyed upon in Britain’s cites – as if the Blacks had once been their slaves. But they hadn’t and they voluntarily came to Britain. It just doesn’t matter. The low will resent the high and seek revenge upon them. Existential Truth trumps historical exigencies. Thus the Doctrines of “Racism” stand on very solid ground indeed. They are a masterful exploitation of the lower human psychology. Whites fell for it all over the Western World – and it won’t stop until they are destroyed.
Apply Existential Truth to the Jihad also. It would have begun again once Islam was strong and the West weak, no matter what we did or didn’t do.
Good point about Islam that a vast majority of Westerners just simply do not get or want to get. The Jihad is coming for you whether or not you believe in it. A devout Muslim is supposed to ensure that Islam rules over the entire earth through proselytizing but also via the sword. Unlike modern and reformed Christianity, it is not about spreading an idea that you hope people accept. This is about spreading a way of life and political system via ideas and enforced with weapons. Keep in mind there was never any kind of reformation in the Muslim world so they are still deeply connected to the 7th century.
Thet’re in the US Congress now, just the beginning.
volodya, -whew- . You hit a lot of topics in that post; all of them engaging. I’ll try to make some brief comments.
How we name things. I don’t like the term “progressivism” as it has come to be associated with political notions that IMO don’t have much to do with progress. But in fairness, one could argue that some Democrats are not champions of democracy just as some Republicans are less than ardent supporters of the ideals upon which one might found a Republic. This situation reminds me a bit of advice that used to be pounded into computer programmers, and that was to give the bits of code meaningful names. Our current terms describing political identity have names that are not IMO particularly accurate.
I mentioned the cult-like belief aspect because I think it works for some of fixated behavior on display in American society. You are correct that it is not a complete explanation, and that individual exercise of will certainly plays a significant role among at least some of those taking an overtly partisan stance. Some taking partisan stances are doing so for personal reasons but pretend their deportment is simply and obviously one of resisting what they deem as “evil”; I would count the entertainment industry and the infotainment (media) as part of that.
All I know for sure is that neither major political party today is very much like they were when I was a lot younger. IMO, the USA has been on a political path of “let’s play pretend” since 1968 or so. There are established interests who have done very well in playing this game, and they sense strongly that Trump presents a threat to their interests because he is not interested in continuing the 50-year charade.
The biggest, and seldom mentioned, elephant in the political chambers is that we are looking at the coming of profound change. Trump is but a symbol of this change, yet his person has served as a lightning rod for the fear and loathing certain groups have for any significant change. And my guess is that the “Progressives”, for all their chatter about change for better, are actually terrified of what the impending change may portend.
Cheers
Mont,
Profound change is indeed coming, not least because the status quo doesn’t work and there’s no way to make it work.
I think you hit the nail on the head with the last sentence. One of the well-known talking points of the “progressive” set is all about their openness to change, which they say comes out of their fearlessness and their high level of education and their great innate intelligence and adaptability.
And, of course, “progressives” love to talk about how their reactionary counter-parts, the Deplorables, being uneducated and tribal and ignorant of the world and of science and technology and of all things wonderful, are fearful of change and of new people and new ideas which “progressives” characterize derisively as “phobias” of various sorts, ie xenophobia, Islamophobia etc or as “isms”.
“Personal reasons” indeed. Well, when you set up an economic system to benefit yourself and your own social class the way that “progressives” have done for themselves and their billionaire paymasters in the last two generations, the LAST thing you want is change, especially in the form of a challenge from a representative of people they consider inferior. There’s nothing more personal than your own economic interests. But money is so crass, such considerations so unworthy of people of such exalted status as the “progressive. And so the framing is in moral terms, the “progressive” smears these inferiors and their challenge to the status quo as “evil” and their interests as illegitimate and their gripes as having no basis in reality.
What ideologies – or cults – do is to give people a list of ideas, already worked-out, so that little thought is required and this is no less so for “progressive” ideology. Here’s the reading list, here’s the talking points…
For all the sneering at Deplorable tribalism, “progressives” are no less so, or, as you say, cult-like. And besides, having to think, to work out ideas on your own, is hard and it gives you such a head-ache.
And for all the non-thinking that “progressives” do, it’s ironic that they hurl the charge of anti-intellectualism at Deplorables.
What a great summary volodya! You packaged that up really well and I don’t think that the hypocrisy of the Marxists could be better captured in words. It is comical that they are so brilliant and yet the world seems more filled with problems than ever before. I suppose brilliance doesn’t necessarily translate into better living for humanity, but there sure is a really really tiny percent of us who are doing very well.
Glad you liked it. Nope, brilliance sure does not translate into better living for humanity, particularly if this brilliance – such as it is – is deliberately leveraged to the advantage of the few and to the disadvantage of the many.
“And, of course, “progressives” love to talk about how their reactionary counter-parts, the Deplorables, being uneducated and tribal and ignorant of the world”
volodya, another topic within the topic. The 2016 election had that defining moment when HRC’s comment was outed. From the perspective of her and her supporters, there was nothing wrong with the comment. Those who suffered the calumny saw things differently.
One aspect that strikes me is the comment again reveals the cult-like faith of the Progs; it is redolent of the “we’re the good and those who oppose us are evil” mentality. Let us not forget the comment dehumanized millions of average people, and it was that intent to dehumanize that raised a red flag for me.
For this was not Trump speaking — who is infamous for his use of provocative speech; no, this was HRC speaking, and she was supposedly an educated, tolerant member of the political elite. The red flag hoisted even higher …
To bring this back to JHK’s themes, HRC’s comment was a nasty swipe at precisely those people who were marginalized by decades of questionable governance and economic policy. People in Appalachia and the Ohio Valley may have endured decades of not simply neglect, but being completely forgotten and abandoned by their federal government … yet they understood when they were being slandered by a politician whose understanding of ‘reality’ could not have been at a farther remove from the daily existence of the so-called Deplorables.
Again, I find the fixation of much of our politicians, the media, and the entertainment industry loudmouths on the person of Trump to be remarkably misplaced. Even without Trump, it is clear the 2016 election would have had a vile undercurrent … for how else should one characterize a contemptuous dismissal of millions of people across most of the states of the Union?
Ironic, indeed, that such charges are hurled.
Cheers
GA
Just read your comment way back on the thread
A comment for you.
Why are you surprised at the “masculine” comments you have seen?
Are you as upset by the comments made about Trump or May or whoever?
Power is the number one human sin, or failing. Power has destroyed more human endeavors than anything else.
Why are you surprised by a group of males fighting back against what they perceive to be a power grab by a bunch of females. Which it is. #metoo is an arm of the Liberal power base and the women’s marches are an expression of the same.
Females are exercising their power drive and competing with males on a common turf. That is okay! When you are in the pit competing, you better be willing to take the hits when they come. The real world is a tough place and If male or female cannot take the heat, get out of the fire. The real world will not bend because someone Is female. If you want to compete, get a thick skin.
Think Trump has a thick skin. Probably. Like a elephant.
With all due respect, JohnAZ, you are missing the point of my comment.
I take plenty of heat on here, for my views (which are far from extreme on anything at all).
I take no advantage from being female and never have. I have made my own way in the world, modest as it is. I am the exact opposite of every caricature promoted by the comments earlier in the thread. I am perfectly capable of taking The Heat’, but I will not douse myself in The Utter Crap’ of someone having the effrontery to imagine they have the right to decide whether or not women will vote in the country in which they pay taxes and bring up children.
If men on this site want to let that kind of ordure pass, that’s their choice. All I said is that I won’t partake in conversation on a thread with such comments. Just as, if it were in a pub, I’d walk out and leave such people to slap each other on their ignorant and bigoted backs.
None of that has anything to do with #MeToo or your particular female politicians.
And I don’t recall ever suggesting that *men* should all be deprived of the vote because one of their number is Donald Trump – or because of wars that *men* have got us into, or because of the rapes and other violence that *men* have committed* or anything else that *men* have ever done.
I never said that. My point is it is a contest of power. I did not even address the vote.
Do you really believe those men meant what they said, or that they are just bellyaching. If they honestly believe that women are second class and do not deserve equality, their train left the station a hundred years ago.
The very vocal part of the women’s Movement have congregated on the Left to extreme Left, I guess because they think a socialistic government will just hand them power, instead of having to earn it. I heartily disagree with that viewpoint. If you want it go slug it out like everyone else. And that is male or female.
JohnAZ
At what point have you ever heard me promote a ‘socialistic government’ handing me or anyone else power without earning it? So I don’t need to slug it out because it’s not my fight.
“Do you really believe those men meant what they said…?
Yes. It’s been said on here before and I don’t think the people who said it were joking. Go onto some parts of Reddit etc. and you’ll find it there as well, along with advice on how to keep your ‘bitch’ in her place.
As for the train leaving the station a hundred years ago, things don’t necessarily stay gone. We thought Nazism had gone too but it’s fighting back right now.
“Nazisim” is fighting back. Give just one representative example for this supposed broad-based threat.
I get cringe chills when I hear stuff like this.
Nightowl
You should be grateful that ‘cringe cells’ are generally a self-limiting condition, given your healthcare system has introduced financial ruination as an iatrogenic disease.
“Give just one representative example for this supposed broad-based threat.”
Well I might if I’d ‘supposed’ any ‘broad-based threat’ but that was your bit of deliberate manipulation, not mine. Great oaks and all that, my friend. It didn’t start as a ‘broad-based threat’ first time around. Allow me to get my own ‘déjà vu cells’ when I see angry young men with swastikas marching in a civilised country, shouting ‘blood and soil’.
But mostly, well done on dealing with the icing and not the cake.
Green,
I moved to Germany years ago, where there are, unsurprisingly, also problems with the healthcare system. I am lucky enough to be able to afford private insurance.
I noticed you avoided my question and responded in an emotional manner. I am happy to wait for any evidence for your claim.
Nightowl
My apologies for assuming you lived in the US.
Nevertheless I think we can probably categorise the ‘cringe cells’ as an emotional response. You don’t seem to like emotional responses generally unless they pertain to ‘anger’ which you deem justified. I’m fine with justified anger too – I just like a bit of logic attached to it.
I noted already that your question related to a ‘broad-based threat’. That was not my original contention, it was your straw man. And I see nothing in my response as ’emotional’ but I do recognise gaslighting when I see it.
But if you want some random manifestations that didn’t exist for most of the rest of my lifetime, I will offer you a few.
There would be a much longer list if my PC were behaving properly but it’s currently ‘hanging’ and taking many minutes to perform tasks that should take seconds. Just this list took me about 40 minutes to put together when it should have taken five. It’s nothing you couldn’t look up yourself and I have some unemotional work to do to pay some entirely unemotional bills. Do have a good day, Nightowl, if that’s not some kind of oxymoron.
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/12/14/15/na2.gif?w968
“National Action demonstrating in York in June 2016’
(photo credited to National Action). York! Notice the guy whose pic is on the banner – remember him? That’s what I call a comeback.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/whites-only-sticker-woman-car-devon-where-in-devon-racism-sierra-leone-british-children-a7825486.html
“White’s only’ sticker left on woman’s car in Devon” Devon!! Home of fudge and clotted cream.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/white-nationalist-movement-twitter-faster-growth-isis-islamic-state-study-a7223671.html
“Twitter users who self-identify as white nationalists and Neo-Nazis have grown 600 per cent since 2012”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-president-elect-alt-right-white-supremacists-nazi-hitler-salutes-richard-b-spencer-a7431216.html
“White supremacists chant ‘hail Trump’ while performing Hitler salutes at alt-right conference”
https://theintercept.com/2018/05/03/uk-far-right-terrorism-national-action/
”British Neo-nazis are on the rise – and they’re becoming more organized and violent.”
https://www.abc.net.au/religion/antipodean-resistance-the-rise-and-goals-of-australias-new-nazis/10094794
“ “Although Nazism remains on the political fringes, adherents are increasingly active and emboldened in propagating the antisemitism, white supremacy, racist hate and homophobia that are intrinsic to Nazi ideology.
In Australia, a new neo-Nazi group, Antipodean Resistance, emerged publicly in October 2016 with their vile propaganda. Antipodean Resistance promotes and incites hatred and violence, as seen through some of its anti-Jewish and anti-homosexual posters, with graphic images of shooting Jews and homosexuals in the head. One poster called to “Legalise the execution of Jews.”
In addition, Antipodean Resistance has connections to groups overseas who have committed terrorist acts and/or are proscribed terrorist organisations. The group also espouses support for literature that calls for guerrilla warfare and terrorism. Antipodean Resistance is a small but highly active group.”
And that’s still just about the icing, not the cake.
How dare the British people defend their land? Don’t they know that Nigerians and Pakis are just as British as they are? More in fact, since immigration is the essence of any modern Western Nation.
In other words, in Wonderland, less is more and more is less. What something is, it isn’t.
Sounds like the beginnings of a case for doing exactly that. That’s ok, we all let our tongues hang out, so there’s no reason you have to gold back because you’re a girl and because you’re more civilized than us snoring, grunting, belching, farting slobs that are always trying to hump anything softer and pinker than ourselves. I know, you never suggested anything of the sort.
typo; “gold back”, should be “hold back”.
You mean you don’t care for a bit of misandry in your afternoon tea ;-)?
Volodya
What I objected to was not an attack on ME.
I’ve never been subjected to anything more than the pervasive light sexism and misogyny that pertained in my youth. Like for instance, answering the phone in an office, giving a member of the public factual information he didn’t like and being told to get him a man, because he didn’t want to talk to ‘some lassie’. He got a man, who told him the same facts. Women had to live with that kind of crap all the time and if you think that stuff has entirely disappeared from the male psyche in a few decades I fear you are deluded.
Not long before my ex-husband and I bought our first house, with a mortgage based on my salary and half of his, because mine was larger, it hadn’t been possible to get a mortgage without it being signed by a man.
Until 1976 (when I was already out of university), in Ireland, a married woman had no right to a share in her own family home, even if she was the only breadwinner. Her husband could sell the home without her consent.
I imagine if you’ve never experienced even that kind of patronising insulting sh*te, even by proxy, you aren’t going to understand insults like the ones further up in your bones the way women can. Insults aimed at me personally don’t bother me remotely – I’m happy to deal with them, as you should know.
Hi Green,
I see nothing that confirms your claim that “Nazism is making a comeback.” A few random articles about a few fringe groups who (supposedly) feel “emboldened,” complete with the usual hyperbole found in the corporate press — who label anything and anyone opposed to the neoliberal plantation agenda as racist. And of course there is the obligatory item relating to Trump.
Lots of icing, no cake, as you might say.
As always, I am open to evidence that there is a broad-based movement to bring back National Socialism.
Hi Nightowl
We seem to be at an impasse as a result of your insistence on putting words in my mouth and then demanding that I justify them.
I repeat: ‘broad-based movement’ is your straw man and was no part of my original comment.
I’m sorry if you can’t get beyond that, but that’s the problem.
If someone else says the neo-Nazi movement is broad-based at this juncture (none of us knows how broad-based it may become in future, just as they didn’t first time around), then do feel free to take it up with them.
For now you are just insisting on me recognising your straw man as something more concrete.
My words: it’s (Nazism) fighting back.
Your words: there is a broad-based movement to bring back National Socialism.
I’m sorry you can’t see the difference but I’m not in a position to help you.
And I don’t understand how you can’t see the difference between ‘anyone opposed to the neoliberal plantation agenda’ (which I will not badger you to prove in similar fashion) and people marching with Hitler banners, giving Hitler salutes and saying ‘Hitler was right’.
I don’t care how ‘fringe’ they are – they’re fighting back. As I said.
And now I see you have elected to use parentheses to downplay the original comment further.
As you like.
You just don’t stop when, do you?
Did you go to some kind of gaslighting master course or something. Unbelievable.
You made up something I didn’t say. ‘Broad-based support’. For your own reasons.
delete ‘when’
change ‘master course’ to ‘master class’.
Blame it on the confusion of utter disbelief.
Have a good day, Nightowl.
I’m ignoring the next bit of gaslighting.
And if you look back you’ll see that the word ‘comeback’ related very specifically to the picture of Hitler on the banner. Him being dead an’ all.
But I do hope we can have a more productive conversation another time, Nightowl. I’m of the ‘let bygones be bygones’ persuasion.
And now I’m definitely closing the door on this thread 🙂 .
Well, ladies and germs.
The BBC reports, this AM (As BRH mentioned earlier) that there is a “once in a generation” polar vortex to descend upon the North East United States…heavily populated areas, that will bring temps down to…are your ready for this…-50F. Figure that a large number will die, the homeless, the drug addled, the squatters in buildings without means of heat, the poor…many buildings will burn to the ground. I’m sure that the civil authorities will attempt to open public buildings as warming spots, but…in Chicago? Tens of thousands will be at risk.
Consider that the enormous strain on the electrical infrastructure might cause issues…thousands of vehicles will be destroyed due to inadequate amounts of anti-freeze…thousands of water pipes will burst on older homes.
To those in the area visited by the cold…hunker down and say safe.
Just Gaia having a shake of the fleas.
And…the link;
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47047089
E
I remember the Midwest being hit with super cold back in the 80’s.
A difference now is a huge increase in homelessness and really dumb migrants that have never lived in that kind of weather. But of course, now that we have let hem in, we have to take care of them
Anyone willing to donate $19 a month to a charity for That? I didn’t think so.
CC is coming. In th3 words of the Boy Scouts.
BE PREPARED!
It was -17 below this morning where I live. It was so cold, I saw a hen walking down the street with a capon.
Cute :-). Stay warm! It’s gonna get to 27 here in the Deep South tonight. The baby Satsuma trees will need to be covered!
Hey E, if you’re looking in …
I picked up another Taurus, partly upon your endorsement..
A Spectrum .380, little thing that fits nicely into side pocket of my vest.
Haven’t tried it out yet, maybe this weekend.
I’ll write up a little review on it shortly.
Brh
As a postscript;
The BBC, breathlessly warning of -50F temperatures…they were incomplete in their reportage. There was no mention of “wind chill factor” in the original report. -27 is cold, but not an existential threat for most.
A veteran died in Texas without any family. His story was broadcast and at his funeral, thousands of people payed him homage.
Once in a while, something really good happens.
Thank you, Texas.
How is that good. I really don’t see it.
Is there nothing sadder than when a person dies and nobody cares?
Yes when a person lives and nobody cares, something far more common than what happened here.
Bit does that not happen with a lot of the herd? From what I am seeing today, nobody seems to care about anybody else or even about anything at all. It lends credence to the conspiracy theory that they are spraying Lithium in the atmosphere to placate the masses. I wonder.
When a person lives and nobody cares. That is so sad and distressing. They say there is a loneliness epidemic. We are more connected than ever but also more lonely than ever before. Technology is so nice and convenient but it may be stealing our humanity.
Mother Theresa commented on that. She has been in slums all over the World: Calcutta, Bombay, Cairo, etc – but she had never seen the horror of old people all alone in Western Cities. She thought it was worse.
Schlemazel
The statement that Gozman is a Jew is a manifestation of zoological anti-Semitism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Gozman
The sausage factory has been very busy.
They went in with what was it, 29 cops-agents to arrest Roger Stone?
The FBI went into Little Bohemia with less manpower than that to try and nab Public Enemy #1, John Dillinger. Yeah, he did escape. One innocent civilian didn’t. They stopped Dillinger’s clock with a force smaller than 29.
Although hundreds searched for Kaczynski, it didn’t take 29 agents to put the collar on him.
It took less than 29 agents to cuff Whitey Bulger in Santa Monica.
And it took 23 Navy Seals, to put some lead into Osama’s head in Abbottabad. But they stormed Stone to give muscle to Mueller’s masquerade.
Maybe Stone can blow this whole thing up, I don’t know, but I wish. What amazes me is that the coup attempt continues, with a flabbergasting and frustrating reversal of roles. It’s the Dems who should be on the run and on the defensive, with them being raided and jailed. But no, it’s still the Democratic show. Will Barr be able to steal it?
Producers at CNN were in charge of the raid at Stones’s house.
SS/NKVD couldn’t go in ’til the cameras were set up and the light was just right.
Then it was lights, cameras, action … and you better get it right on the 1st take we ain’t got all day and this is costing money …
brh
It was Force twenty-nine of CNN design. Let’s get Stone, go in like a cyclone, and pretend the chap is Al Capone.
They’ve gone Insane.
https://blackpilled.com/2019/01/sacrifice-rules/
The Feminists used to hide behind the We-Don’t-Know-When-Life-Begins fig leaf. Now, even the blind can see the coven of witches….
Feminists can’t be real witches. Real witches don’t deny the primordial energy and power within them. Feminism is all about destroying primordial and natural power and replacing it with an appropriated power if that makes any sense.
SSL
Feminism, as many of us know it, is about the right to work, the acceptance of equal pay for equal work, the normal everyday right to own property and generally manage your own life, should you wish to do so, and not be harrassed any more than the average man. I’ve never felt the need to describe myself with any -isms, as I like to make my mind up on individual issues like a thinking person, rather than a member of a club.
So, my views on abortion, for example, can’t necessarily be predicted from my views on other things, and aren’t a hair’s breadth away from those of JohnAZ, whose world view in some other matters is a polar opposite of mine.
But when people say something like ‘primordial energy and power’, I think they’re probably just talking about sex and possibly reproduction, and I’m an everyday vocabulary kind of person, rather than wanting to brainwash people with mystical new-age-speak.
If you don’t believe me, wait till you’re 60 and invisible and let me know how much primordial energy and power you think you have as a woman. At that point, you may find having your name on the title deeds of a house is somewhat more important, and some kind of pension, if such a thing still exists.
I won’t be here, obviously, but remember me when you’re sixty and think about it 🙂 .
“but remember me when you’re sixty”
Alba,
60 years of age? That is what currently is referred to as the “good old days”…
“…Oh, to be 60 again….”
Well it’s not THAT far away for me, EF, but yes, I’d go as far as ‘oh to be 50 again’!
I got married at 58, though, and he was a toy boy of 56, so it’s not over till it’s over, even if there’s not a lot of primordial energy and power around on either side 🙂 .
It’s not just about sex Alba. No doubt allure is part of magic but women have plenty of mental and emotive capacities that men simply do not share. And there is nothing wrong with wielding those powers for good purposes. Harm none as they say. It’s actually easy to put people in a trance-like state. It takes practice and of course beauty and a sweet personality help but again it’s mental and much more than just physical. But I am not looking to brainwash anyone. That would be controlling and harmful. And I for one believe that women are beautiful in all stages of life. Obviously, society at large may not share that view. But I know older women who are grandmas and are in shape, active and still very beautiful. Every woman fears invisibility. Even younger ones. That’s probably why we try harder. Many older women seem more comfortable in their own skin. I get the impression you are that way and you can definitely stand your ground.
SSL
Trances? Sounds like The Witch of Hebron!
But I’ll leave the magic to you. I’m more of a grounded kind of person, which is fine by me. Not long after I met him my husband he said I was one of the few people (or perhaps the only person, I don’t remember) he knew who didn’t use other people to get what they want. I took that as a compliment, although I didn’t have a clue even then what made him say it.
And since he threw in his lot with me, I take it he thinks that’s a good thing too. I’m not into games or manipulation to get your way – they’re demeaning to both parties in my view. But personalities and cultures are different and variety is the spice of life…
But this smiling sweetly to please men stuff – oh, my god, where to start?! Best left alone… 🙂
<<<>>> Or the end of Humanity as we know it? The last image will be Puck chortling.
Here is an interesting post partially confirming my point of view I came across:
Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 27, 2019 12:18:52 PM
Basically, Pelosi is accusing Trump of trying to win.
The outrage makes much more sense when you accept that Trump’s role in the election spectacle was to try to lose (convincingly). Trump was supposed to take a dive and throw the fight. From where I was watching the fight it certainly looked like Trump was trying to lose, and in such a way as to make it look like a “Yuuuge!” victory for neoliberal identity politics and political correctness.
Why did Team Blue deliberately blow the elections for Senate and Congress, giving those to the Red Team? Because they were supposed to get the Executive branch. With that kind of “balance” neither team needs to make good on any campaign promises.
Why did Trump not have a transition team assembled on election night? Because he wasn’t supposed to win anyway.
Why were establishment figures who were in on the fix so surprised by the election results? People like James Crapper are not professional actors and cannot convincingly fake that level of astonishment.
Why was the Steele dossier so shabby and obviously bogus? Because it was not supposed to be looked at too closely. Had Clinton won she would have magnanimously closed the “collusion” investigation to show good sportsmanship to the loser. With Trump the victor however, that was no longer an option. A shabby fake dossier that wasn’t designed to stand up to close scrutiny suddenly had to be accounted for.
Why would Skripal (assuming he was Steele’s source) need to be silenced? Because it is one thing to be associated with a fake dossier that will fade from the news cycle shortly after the elections. It is another thing entirely to have been involved in authoring a fake dossier that was designed to attack someone who just became PotUS. Skripal likely lacked the nerves to stay silent about something that serious, and had to be disappeared.
Why have the dossier at all? It was “insurance” in case Trump’s popularity accidentally surged before November 9. The dossier would be used to “tune” public preferences if it looked like Trump was too close. The mass media had the difficult task of building Trump up enough to win the primaries and look at least a little competitive so the election farce would be believable, but not so much that he might beat the one who was chosen to win. To make it easier than walking a fine line they instead just collected some feces ammunition to throw at Trump if things looked to be getting out of hand.
Furthermore, note that the corporate establishment collusion on these election spectacles goes much wider than most people suspect. Take a look at the big budget movies that Hollywood has released since the elections. Note that many of these movies began production before the elections. It is painfully obvious that many of these big corporate productions were meant to synergize with the historic “First Woman President” event. This synergy was intended to “lock in” politically correct self-censorship among the masses, which would make it easier for the corporate elites to control the narratives that people feel comfortable discussing on social media. This would have neutered the threat to capitalism posed by social media without having to resort to profit-harming actual censorship like they ended up starting to do.
Yes, the elections were rigged. Yes, Trump was, to a degree, in on the fix (details were available on a need-to-know basis and he didn’t need to know them to play his part). But no, the establishment/deep state/corporate elites/whatever did not at all intend for Trump to win.
Of course, it all only a part of what actually happened, just one story line.
Heavenly Forces just used usual political intrigues to elect Trump and send him down as the Saviour of the Nation at a critical moment in history.
Amen.
I think you have gone too far in part. There is plenty of evidence in the PS/LP texts and in the DNC mails at Wikileaks that show that they had the dossier as part of the insurance policy if Trump won. Then you have the Pied Piper strat.
They were worried and nearly every step possible to ensure vicotry. The media and was part of a machine for rigging the election. Their surprise was simply the result of the vote tallies.
The charade, ofc, continued and continues — with manipulated crowd size reporting, Koigate, MLK-Bustgate, Patriotsgate, Shitholegate, etc. Never mind the lies about the big stuff. I have little doubt that Trumpi won the popular vote, too.
To me the most important thing about 2016 Presidential Elections is the question of a Sacral component of Supreme Power over the Nation.
I know that Trump got the majority of popular vote, but Hillary Clinton is not a person to trust such an important issue as ownership of the American red button to a simple-minded American voter.
A lot of things had to come together to overcome her evil vote tampering, that is why I still think that Donald Trump became POTUS by accident.
But accident, as it is well known, is the resource of the Higher Power.
Sometimes one needs a night towel.
Speaking of riddles….
The Party Line about these big Internet companies of Google and Facebook is that they were lucratively funded by PE Funds, like Sequoia, as start ups without the Founders having any idea how they’d make money, and then, only much later, would they stumble upon the brilliant idea of using totalitarian Mass Surveillance as a way to make money. Is this story believable? Since when would a savvy Private Equity Fund invest in a business that didn’t know how to make money? Smells fishy…. It’s more believable than the “Dominique Strauss-Khan after breakfast pancakes rapes the pocked marked face maid while vacuuming his hotel room” story, but still I’m not sure that I buy it….
Shoshana Zuboff
The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power
A $20 dollar book on Kindle and only in hardcover at over $40 the book was released two weeks ago.
You make this dog drool.
I was going to work yesterday and out the door my (>employer provided) iphone said 24 minutes to Sodo where I work.
I didn’t ask and never set anything up. It had to have observed my schedule to know where I was going, AI. the appropriate word is diabolical this sudden shilarny about my commute!
Don’t you think that it’s a bit weird that people are so weak minded and delusional that they will accept stories at face value uncritically such as the driving solar-powered cars to WalMart, colonizing Mars, gas chambers are public showers, etc., and they won’t confront a mountain of evidence contradicting the official story such as babies at birth are live people, the JFK assassination, 9/11, that’s a gas chamber and not a shower, etc., etc.? You can get them to believe the widely fantastic story (however improbable), but you can’t get them to accept the mountain of hard evidence. Weird….
Nope. Just stupidification in action.
Pucker,
A case of unknown unknowns, nothing weird about it. A regular consumer of media for entertainment is not going to cultivate any curiosity about how the world works and any curiosity they do have is going to die a quick death. The American electronic bath numbs people into passive consumption of ideas and things. It is not designed to improve a person at all. We are talking about the 80% side of the Pareto distribution to be clear. The holy grail of the big demographic where market dominance has no morality.
The bath is about consumption and suppression of any anchor to the real world. Every entertainment experience portrays a particular world with rules quite different than the world we actually inhabit. To be entertained a passiveness develops where quick adoption of the rules defining a entertainment experience becomes quick and automatic. Curiosity in contrast withers. It is a case of brain plasticity.
The skill to expect the rules defining reality to change is a skill which is not useful in the real world for a very simple reason. Real world rules don’t change arbitrarily as in a dream or on a video where reality is anything a bit of beef or director wants it to be. Rules which define how the world works actually exist with a permanence and solidity that can’t change because a director or writer changes his mind. Expecting rules defining how things really work in the world to change is an anti-skill for the human mind is fickle and reality is not.
In fact people who lack strong anchors to reality have weak minds and in previous times this was the prevailing attitude. But in America an inversion has taken place and not having an strong anchor to reality has become a mark of high status and the harvest of this madness will not be good.
In other words:
Sstupidification in action.
David Hume in his “Treatise on Human Nature” writes that Belief is the Desire that something is True + Some Evidence (anything will do such as the Virgin Mary’s reflection in a pool of water in a parking lot, or a towel and bar of soap put in your hands when lining up for the gas chamber) and/or Repetition. Thus, Faith Healing is Big….
This may help to explain why everybody goes for Chemotherapy (and voting in US Presidential elections) albeit the 5 year recovery rate tops out at 5%? Hope…The possibility of the Wall? No Wall, but rather a big cut in the corporate tax rate…and lots of cheap illegal migrant labor…. And maybe it really is a Shower and not a gas chamber? And maybe that baby coming down the birth canal is not alive?
Did they have three minute egg timers when Hume was alive? Thoughts meander and take on shapes and connect with other thoughts and then………………
Timer goes off, thinking stops and an attitude; a mashed lump of congealed convictions and unfinished deliberations is frozen in time because the brain moved on to new trivia, becomes a belief with all sorts of loose ends to ignore. Belief results because people are lazy and don ‘t want to keep on truckin. Belief is a shortcut so as not to deal with more layers of complexity.
No shower. You want to believe it is but……………….no.
They’re Insane. It’s now no longer about Ideas; It’s about Narcissistic coercion. They’re crazy….
Narcissistic coercion is Sadism, right?
https://blackpilled.com/2019/01/sacrifice-rules/
Narcissistic coercion and emotional contagion.
Anybody know what effect that has on California? Did the state have a stake in PG&E? Will this put the state’s finances in danger? How can a public utility go bankrupt anyway?
Sorry folks, we are bankrupt. We do not have anymore electricity.
I wonder if it because of the wildfires?
Yes! 30 billion I have heard.
Wow!
Slowly at first, then all of a sudden.
Article in WSJ about it, 6th largest bankruptcy in US history. Nobody seems too worried, tho. PG&E blamed for the wildfires in Cal, and claims obligations are cause of filing. Pols in San Fran and Oakland seem to think electricity appears magically and they don’t need no stinkin power plants f-kkin up their pristine environment.
Surprisingly, largest bankruptcy listed as Lehman Brothers in 2008, at nearly $650 billion. PG&E not even half that.
No worries!
Brh
Upshot is electricity rates going up.
Big winners will be lawyers, hundreds of millions $$$ being generated in fees in this very complicated bankruptcy case.
Brh
???
Lehman Bros. Only took down the US economy for eight years.
My question was what financial situations are affected in California?
The claim is PG&E transmission lines sparked wildfires in rural Cal, and they are being sued for $30 billion.
Not to worry tho because Occasio Cortez has a plan to eliminate all fossil fuel use by 2030.
Is Occasio Cortez related to el Chapo? I note a family resemblance. Hey I’ve been reading on a few sites DNC in deep with Mexican Drug Cartels to the tune of billions, which is why Dems are so opposed to a border wall. Sounds about right. Would it surprise you?
Brh
Nope!
It’s Chapter 11 – reorganization, not liquidation.
Google dildo….
“If Google is a search company, why is it investing in smart-home devices, wearables, and self-driving cars? If Facebook is a social network, why is it developing drones and augmented reality? This diversity sometimes confounds observers but is generally applauded as visionary investment: far-out bets on the future. In fact, activities that appear to be varied and even scattershot across a random selection of industries and projects are actually all the same activity guided by the same aim: behavioral surplus capture. Each is a slightly different configuration of hardware, software, algorithms, sensors, and connectivity designed to mimic a car, shirt, cell phone, book, video, robot, chip, drone, camera, cornea, tree, television, watch, nanobot, intestinal flora, or any online service, but they all share the same purpose: behavioral surplus capture.“
Shoshana Zuboff
The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power
If Google and Facebook are chasing “Behavioral Surplus”, then they’ll go in big in the Sexbot industry?
That’ll be the Big Downside of having a Sexbot: Google will know everything about you….
Of course you went there :-). Jeeze, are you sure they really need to know about that? Does there come a point I wonder where they step back and question why again they are watching and listening in lol?
The more data gathered, the higher level of predictability of the product algorithms. The more powerful the predictive power, the more omniscient and omnipotent the AI. If the decision-making Power is flawless, then its owner can’t lose. Short step from predicting behavior to shaping behavior. For example, getting people addicted to the Internet and internet-connected behaviors in order to create flawless predictive AI.
It’s a totalitarian vision:
“The ideal here is continuously expanding borders that eventually describe the world and everything in it, all the time.“
Shoshana Zuboff
The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power
There is what AI can actually do and then there is what people think AI can do. Not always the same thing and fear of the unknown makes people think AI has super powers. More data collection on a flawed algorithm is not going to improve accuracy.
Not that it maters, you still get spied on and your data still gets sold like it actually is worth something. The fact that you are another soul on life’s journey will continue to be ignored and your only value will be as a consumer.
But whats new besides your phone wanting to blackmail you and threaten to text everybody you know that you need Viagra and are no big deal, a no-count pathetic two minute wonder. You already are a worthless consumer.
What will the phone want? Extra batteries? Maybe it will simply have a demonic desire to ruin you like a pervert who embraces weird because they can’t stand the confusion any more. Scary it is!
And stepping back to question what and why. Contract workers don’t question, they are moved on. That’s the beauty of the contract model. Eliminate ongoing costs, be they monetary or intellectual. There is nobody to step back and question anything now. The world becomes populated by drones and we all enjoy digital solitude where we can deceive ourselves into thinking we are all special till we die and find out we are not, sort of.
There is a story here.
You seem to know a lot about digital technology K-Dog. Can we program the technology with self-limiting algorithms or whatever so that the AI never gets that smart?
As will the NSA
Oh cum on, they won’t know everything. Only what you tell it.
Those who do not believe in an existence after this Earthly life push these technologies and agendas to manipulate the masses to do what they want them to do, to buy what they sell them at whatever price they charge, and to make them do the hard work so that they do not have to do it. Those who believe in an afterlife and pursue this manipulation are helbent literally, to suck the life force out of the herd or at least degrade them so that they cannot advance to the next level of existence. You all may not believe this but THEY do and that is why they act the way they do. I see it as a demonic plot in the age old struggle of evil against good. But that’s just me.
I don’t know what Slavoj Žižek would say about such thought experiments but imagine you are at the pearly gates.
You get led into the big room where a door leads out to paradise and an elevator goes down but before you go out the door or down the elivator you stand to hear the verdict. Or being a soul you feet float inches above polished marble. You listen.
Years I waited for you to do something and you did nothing. I waited for something, anything with a dust mote of meaning from you. Something to show you had found the joyous treasure map I put in your head when I sent you down. Something to show you were not just another brick in the worthless spectre wall.
No you don’t get another chance. You were an American. Do you know how many chances an American gets compared to everyone else! You don’t want to go there.
I know you did not do anything wrong, I get that. But you did not do any good either and that is what you were supposed to do.
Next !
“No you don’t get another chance. You were an American. Do you know how many chances an American gets compared to everyone else! You don’t want to go there.”
Ha… reminds me of the man who recounted his little boy saying, like every other little boy and girl, ‘it’s not fair!’.
And his dad said, ‘Believe me, son, you don’t want it to be fair. Really you don’t’.
If things were fair things things would be different.
Well said. Do Blacks really want an even playing field? I think they know what that would mean. It would be like Black sprinters wearing weights on their ankles so Whites would have a fair chance at winning.
I think you have missed the point, Janos, which was that the dad was trying to point out to his son how much the world was actually weighted in his favour and that ‘fairness’ would require things to be re-balanced in the other direction. So he should really stop whingeing…
Or perhaps I’m misunderstanding your misunderstanding.
You still think that as White pensioners freeze to death in England while Browns and Blacks live high off the fat of the land?
Or as White veterans did on the streets of America by the thousands?
You’re a retread. It’s forever 1968 for you people. The Beatles are playing in the Abbey tonight, right? Or is it over on the other side of the Mersey?
Have Mercy.
Janos
You are, as ever, off your trolley.
‘Blacks and browns living high off the fat of the land’ – really, truly away with the fairies, poor boy.
“So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.”
No doubt dog, no doubt.
Google, like Amazon and Facebook, gathers data on people and sells it to the highest bidder.
The NSA gathers data and gives it to the Deep State.
Computers and cameras and knowing everything about you, are a dictator’s wet dream.
I’ll be honest, until the Mueller Report (or whatever) is released, I just don’t care about this stuff. It’s noise; and 31 year old me could not care less about some political huckster with a yen for Nixon.
In other news, a good third of the US is under an extreme weather warning. Its -65 with the wind chill in these parts, and 120 in Australia; that’s a 185 degree difference.
I predict this summer will be accompanied with record heat waves. And the Midwest will continue to see declines in crop productivity as the heat delays growth and increased rainfall speeds he erosion of soil. That,and much of the “citizenry” (whatever the Hell that means anymore) will continue to deny AGW.
Stay warm.
We don’t necessarily deny it..
What are you going to do about it?
Build some windmills?
Tell people they can’t heat their houses, drive their cars, turn on the lights?
Exactly what?
Brh
BRH,
What are they going to do abut it? It has been settled in Paris. They expect a solution by degrading the quality of life in the first tier countries, while giving the emerging economies, with their billions of people, a 20 year get out of jail free card.
In other words…”fuck whitey”….
You know, it never occurred to me but at this moment, the “fuck whitey” comment is accurate. I am not trying to conflate AGW with race…but it seems to work out that way.
True E,
But in France the Yellow Vests seem to have a different idea.
Brh
Yes, I was proud of a few brave Catholics on the Trad site I frequent. They shyly but defiantly pointed out that the Covington students were attacked because they were White not because they were Catholic.
The Hierarchy hates all this kind of stuff – even the Trad ones. They want to be persecuted for being Catholic. That the White race spread Catholicism all over the world means nothing to them. Loyalty is one way street in their view. As long as the pews fill up, who cares what color the faces are? Western Civilization is the Church – and that’s it! Fuck Whites.
Dude, I doubt you’re even white.
“As long as the pews fill up, who cares what color the faces are? ”
As Jesus himself might have said. 🙂
romanmanner
I’ve always imagined Janos has a permanently red, congested facial allure brought on by permanent anger. The serenity that dumping his prejudices would provide could give him a more pale and interesting look, which could provide payoff in another department and lessen his obsessions in that direction too.
If I were religious I might pray for him 🙂 .
Alba, you need to brush your pelt now and then. You’re getting matted.
Roma: Why would you doubt that I’m White? Cuz I care and Whites aren’t even supposed to notice their slow (but now accelerating) genocide? Just cuz you don’t notice or care to notice or even care?
Janos,
DO you ever stop to think that you, and all of us, are living on a slowly cooling molten sphere. Where a few miles below us its far too hot to live, a few thousand feet above us it’s too cold?
And that we orbit a nuclear fire in the sky that’s several billion years old? Orbiting a supermassive black hole in the center of a galaxy which contains 200 billion stars- most of which contain their own solar systems?
And this galaxy is one of roughly 2 trillion in the observable universe, which is itself billions of light years across. And by observing the furthest galaxies we see them fall over the cosmological horizon, indicating the universe is far larger than the yawning chasm we can observe?
Hell, we may even live in a multiverse; after-all- name one natural phenomenon that exists singularly.
My point is this: in all this majesty, hell- in all this incredible space- why are you so hung up on melanin counts and opinion making on cultures different from your own? You really seem to have lost the forest for the trees.
Big Universe therefore White extinction OK.
Big Universe, but Black extinction not OK.
Why the difference? The Park Service is at its wit’s end trying to get Blacks interested in hiking, snow capped mountains, and sunsets. They’re afraid of snakes and don’t like getting dirty – or exerting themselves.
Hispanics like City Parks so they can have barbecues involving hundred of people. Is the same as loving Nature?
Whites are so fucking special they don’t even know how special they are. And that has been their undoing.
Janos
You know that thing about ‘from the sublime to the ridiculous’?
Well, yeah…
Disagree with you. I do not believe the existence of AGW is being debated, it is the reaction to it. What can be done to make any significant impact? Once the existence of AGW was documented, and it has been, nothing really has been changed any where. Paris was a globalist ploy with no teeth at all to provide GW relief.
Note that neither party in the US has one significant suggestion on how to deal with overpopulation, Happy Motoring, electrical generation, heat generation. Ineffective ideas abound but economically sound ideas are few and far between.
Personally, I was a big time CC person until I realized politics was unconcerned. Then JHK came along with the fact that the problem, oil and oil products have a finite lifetime of 50 to 100 years. Hey, problem solved. The only way it will ever be.
Better start trying to figure out how to live without FF. We will have the same political reaction to the decreasing supply of oil, nada.
The world will have a lot of difficulty getting off the FF breast. It will be the number one issue of the middle 21st century. As JHK has stated, there really are no solutions and will result in a huge population adjustment. Expecting the elite to give one damn about the effects on the folks is a pipe dream.
Almost 100% of economic activity today is based on oil and its usage. What are people going to do, literally going to do, when it is unaffordable. Envision the world with no internal combustion, back to the 1800’s. Or maybe the 1500’s.
” I do not believe the existence of AGW is being debated”
John,
It is “settled science” then? Only two other subjects come to mind when “settled science” is offered as an absolute;
Racial IQ differences and the Holocaust….
Yes, it is settled science, EF. That (a) increased CO2 in the atmosphere causes atmospheric warming and (b) increased atmospheric warming causes more extreme weather conditions (more energy in the system) are entirely settled science.
What isn’t settled science, but what a lot of hardworking, conscientious people are continuously working on, is the exact way that’s going to pan out, in detail, in different places and at different times (consider the vagaries of the Gulf Stream, what might happen to it and when (not in your lifetime or mine – Day After Tomorrow and similar fluff, while entertaining, are unhelpful fantasy nonsense). But we know that, overall, it isn’t going to be beneficial to the comfort of the human race (just for starters).
For every instance of increased crop growing in a warming Siberia (hoorah!), you have to remember the methane escaping from the melting permafrost (boo!) and positive feedback loops. And that time not so long ago that vast amounts of Russian wheat were dried up and parched in the fields in a historic heatwave, which seriously affected the price of wheat on world markets.
“It will be the number one issue of the middle 21st century. ”
That and water.
Last week you found one of Janos messages all too cryptic.
On monday [28th] I posted the first post in the thread to clear up yr confusion.
The post was removed.
Janos was referring to a rape my a male Haitian nurse.
Its in the news if you want to ‘read all about it.’
Green Alba, we’ve all lived with shit in our lives. Way back I took my share of ethnic slurs which of course I couldn’t let pass and so I also got my share of bloody noses.
Yeah, I know, boo-hoo, cry be a river. I know, it was worse for others. It was orders of magnitude shittier for Black guys who in my estimation were totally and completely fucked. And the Chinese didn’t have it so great either.
Do times change? You bet. Half my bosses have been women. Go back to the 1950s as a comparison. The point? Human behavior is highly variable, it changes from place to place and over time. This too; current and past models of masculine behavior where you and I live may not be so great but believe me because I’ve seen it, it’s far, far worse overseas.
You got problems? It makes me laugh when I see the overtly racist admission policies of places like Harvard, Harvard being a place of course with scrupulously liberal cred, at least to liberals. But pious talk of tolerance and inclusion and diversity is complete bollocks, a bunch of malarkey to justify exclusion ie high achieving Asians.
You know, these chinky people with chinky eyes might start diluting the privilege of people currently at the top of the pyramid, especially if – gasp – their square-jawed all-American sons start boffing those slim, exotic girls, or, horror of horrors, those inscrutable fellas with the straight black hair (and never mind the stellar academic record) defile their lily white daughters. Excruciating to have half-breed grand-kids, don’t you think, not to mention in-laws with thick accents and odd eating habits. I mean, what to tell people? All those clubs where member ship is easily put in jeopardy by such shenanigans as race-mixing.
My point? What’s my point?
And it’s like Rick said to the Bulgarian chick, everybody in Casablanca has problems, yours may yet work out. But we may have to do stuff we don’t like, ie that Bulgarian chick.
As far as Harvard goes, I can’t help but think that places without racist admission policies like CalTech stand to benefit with Harvard slumping to the status of a playground for rich white kids.
Maybe the moral arc of the universe does bend toward justice, maybe with a bit of elbow grease on our part.
Oh yeah, my point, if you want to say something just come out and say it. JHK seems to be a forgiving host to just about any point of view if you’re a bona fide commenter. So, you gat a gripe? You want to piss all over guys? Just do it.
PS I only do house-work at gun-point.
Typo: So, you gat a gripe, should be So, you got a gripe?
Having worked in both spheres, I would say that a blend of Male and Female traits enhance a workplace. Throughout human history, male has meant outreach and growth, both high risk, and female meant common, horse sense and a more conservative approach. Both are right, per any situation. Compromise produces balanced growth. Both are needed.
Gee, sounds like good marriage advice.
JohnAZ
Your point about male and female traits in the workplace seems to be borne out by the evidence, which, with my computer being in obstructive mode, I’m not going to look up, but I do remember reading reports that companies with a good mix of male and female are more successful. Obviously there will be exceptions in sectors that are mostly-male or mostly-female for obvious or less obvious reasons but overall it seems to be the case.
And yes, evidence suggests you’re right about the high-risk versus common sense stuff too (anecdote alert – allergics look away…). Which is why I have a roof over my head and my other half risked his better one on starting up a business in his early 50s. And lost. And his pension investments went into the high-risk mix as well, so he’s got slightly less coming to him than my sad pension, even though his hourly rate is almost three times mine. I’d have advised caution and building it up in a more gradual manner, but I wasn’t around at the time and if I had been I’d have been criticised for being ‘negative’ or something.
And the whole 2008 financial fiasco was caused mostly by high-risk financial playboys, with a few playgirls specifically picked because they acted like the lads.
Volodya
I must be expressing myself particularly badly today, because I don’t seem able to get my point over.
I’m not worried about my gripes. I even said my gripes have been very, very minor, compared to gripes elsewhere.
I went to school in the very unsophisticated north of England. I ended up studying down south, but the first time I got off a train in London, probably heading for a university interview somewhere, I was surprised to see a variety of black people doing menial jobs around the station. We had practically no black people in Stockton on Tees, only a handful of Asians.
So, with the upbringing I’d had (heavy on the ‘honour thy father and thy mother’ side of things), I sat, at 17, having a cup of tea in a station cafe, completely mortified that a black man of about 50-odd, with eyes deadened presumably by a lifetime of lack of respect, swept up and cleaned up around me, with all the energy of the utterly downtrodden. It seemed intrinsically wrong. And I was embarrassed, so much so that I still remember it.
I was equally embarrassed when I went to ‘East Germany’ and Czechoslovakia in 1990 and sat in a restaurant in Wenceslas Square eating Chateaubriand steak (with pickled vegetables – they weren’t really up and running tourist-wise yet). It cost a mere £4 for the two of us and I don’t imagine any of the waiters could have afforded it. And I was a single mother who hadn’t had a holiday in 10 years but I was selling my car because a £200 (!!!) overdraft had put the frighteners on me and I was exchanging it for my brother’s old mini-metro and thought I should have a holiday with a bit of the cash while I had some. Camping, that is, apart from sleeping in the car with our feet out the windows (female friend and myself) outside the full campsite in Prague.
But to them I was a reasonably wealthy western tourist and again, I felt completely mortified at my unfair position in life.
I have no gripes of any magnitude. At my age one cannot be unaware of the minor humiliations that come with age, which men don’t share in the same way, but these are tiny things in the scheme of things.
I was not ‘having a go at men’. I was trying to convey the visceral outrage that someone can provoke by suggesting that they have the entitlement to deprive me of my say in civic affairs because I don’t have dangly bits, even if more than half the ones with dangly bits might be less intelligent than I am (which is not to claim any great intelligence on my part).
JHK wrote a post one time about how power really lay with women and not men. I made a short comment saying that such power was necessarily short lived (I didn’t even mention that some of us shy and not very self confident types never took any advantage from it in the first place) and that the Coolidge effect put the power back in male hands pretty quickly.
That got deleted. Seriously. But someone who said that a country that even thinks about giving women the vote must be in serious decline didn’t.
That was my point.
OK fair enough. One thing though and it’s just a cautionary note. This is the internet so, unless you have K-dog level hunting skills, you won’t know who’s who. And this comment section is by-and-large unmoderated, though by the looks of it JHK steps in now and then. The point is this, there’s been at least one commenter here in the employ of the federal gov’t whose apparent mission it was to interfere in the discussion thread, one way being to post inflammatory commentary. Such is the m.o. of trolls anyway you might say, and that’s so, but there is – or was – that added element of Big Brother apparently not liking what’s being discussed. So when you see comments like what you just referenced, you might want to take a pass at responding. I don’t know the origin of the post in question and it might be just some goof. Or it might not. I suppose the idea is don’t feed the trolls. Nothing gives them as much glee as when they get a rise.
It’s a difficult one, that, volodya. You look at a comment like that and you don’t want to dignify it with a response. Then you wonder if the fact that no-one’s saying anything makes a bunch of new or infrequent readers think that that’s the ethos of the site. And that’s not good. Same with the Nazi stuff.
But I take your point.
I do find myself thinking, when I read the sexist comments by men I know have wives, that either they must feel contempt for them (so why marry them?) or they’re just all mouth and trousers, as we say over this way, when it comes to the comments, and engaging in male bonding 🙂 .
I really only do house-work at gun-point. But I do cook.
Happy?
She doesn’t believe that the sexes really have separate natures. Men are just women without vaginas. Women are just men without penises. That’s it. How exciting, eh? What kind of world do you think people like this would create?
My husband does no housework other than a bit of washing up.
But he cooks too. Because…he LIKES it. If he liked cleaning the toilet and mopping floors I guess I’d be doing more cooking 🙂 .
Happiness comes from a sense of perspective, as much as anything else!
Janos, go away, the grownups are talking.
“Then you wonder if the fact that no-one’s saying anything [counter to outrageous trollery] makes a bunch of new or infrequent readers think that that’s the ethos of the site. And that’s not good. Same with the Nazi stuff.”
The solid appearance that the ethos of this site is extreme right-wing shouted bullshittery with an unhealthy lack of empathy and compassion should be labeled “an unqualified success”. Consider it only useful in identifying who and how the enemies of mankind and the earth itself operate. Don’t expect realistic discussions about what predicaments are actually present or how they might be mitigated. That being said, I sympathize with your puzzlement, but nothing whatever can be done. As someone is purported to have said long ago: “It is finished.”
BTW, just a bit of un-self-censored thought of mine: There is a truckload of seditious and treasonous spew that gets placed here. The hypocrisy and mendaciousness of it all is appalling. I might hope for a comeuppance to it, but I wouldn’t place any bets in that direction. You can draw your own conclusions as to why what has come to be common practice is here; I’ve said as much as I’m willing to. — Back to self-censoring.
“And that’s not good. Same with the Nazi stuff”
Alba,
Is there anything…any deed or omission, in the years that the Nazi’s were in power that could be considered good? Were they all evil? 100%? Was there no humanity? None? Nada? Ever? Did they love their children…honor their parents?
Absolutes are usually impossible to defend. Look beyond the “excesses” and what do you see?
Sorry, EF. That’s one I’m not going to dignify with an answer.
“Did they love their children?’. Dear God.
Alba,
The question was not meant to troll you, but rather to call out absolutes…” And that’s not good. Same with the Nazi stuff.” Use qualifiers. Most of the Nazi stuff was not good…some of the Nazi stuff was not good…the vast majority of Nazi stuff was not good. Who could argue with those statements?
There are those on this site that can provide chapter and verse positive things that the National Socialists did before the excesses occurred.
There are many women that should not be allowed to vote, GA, and there are many men that should not be allowed either. In fact far too many people of either gender vote without thinking, vote for a candidate because of party or looks or race or gender, or a host of many other bad reasons. The system is broken and people either do not have the time or caring to find out who should be voted in or voted out. And the problem spans all races and all genders. A female friend of my wife who is educated and intelligent once told me that she does not vote because her life does not allow her any time at all to find out who to vote for. Her life IS in fact that hectic, poor woman and I not only respect how she handles it, but believe that more people should follow her example. I have always said to my constituents that while I cannot tell you who to vote for, I can certainly tell you who not to vote for and that would be any candidate that you do not know enough about to choose.
Well said. LEISURE to study the issues. Aristotle identified it as one the prerequisites for voting.
This is no wealth without Slack – the White Man’s Tao even as the Funk is the Black Man’s.
I thought Britain was full of Blacks since ancient times – so much so that Winnie got helped by one during his ride on the Underground. One that had a White girl and was facing discrimination, natch.
Janos, let me try to help you out here. Britain isn’t a big place, but like everywhere else, it’s lots of different places. And different places have attracted different people since forever.
Hope that helps.
That film was a film. As in fiction, inspired by fact. Churchill would never have jumped out the car and popped into the Underground in the first place. There were nevertheless a fair number of black people in London by the 1940s. I really don’t care how many.
Hope that helps too.
And if you thought Britain was ‘full of Blacks’ since ancient times, then you’re dafter than I thought, because what I said was that there were black people there since the 11th century (or whenever). Not how many there were. That was one of your typical embellishments. For all I know there might have been three.
I’d still recomment CBT for your idée fixe.
*recommend*
I’m the one who explained to you how ridiculous the whole premise was. Ditto Churchill going into the Underground to be helped by a Black.
And now you pretend to teach me!
There would be nothing bizarre about him conversing with a black person if indeed he had dived into the tube and a black person had been in the tube.
But he would never have dived into the tube.
I see that it has all taken on a bizarre importance for you though. It must be exhausting being you. Why don’t you have a nice cup of tea and think about something restful?
And of course if we accept the Dive, we also accept your premise of a Black worker schooling the brilliant Churchill about policy and the best way to say – as if he wasn’t a master public speaker.
I don’t want you to change. I like the fact that you believe Blacks have always been in Britain. Your naivete is a Mark of Cain, you see.
Janos
I posted this already and it diappeared.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/empire_seapower/black_britons_01.shtml
12th century. I did say I wasn’t exactly sure.
And I said if your psyche could cope with films with space aliens it can surely cope with the dramatic license of having Churchill take advice from his fellow passengers in a tube train he would never have got into in real life.
I’ve just watched the new film of Mary Queen of Scots, where the director has Mary and Elizabeth meet for dramatic effect (and effective it was – and dramatic). Film directors do that. It’s allowed.
Chill.
Yes, life is War. Harvard was right to limit and exclude Jews and Asians when they were loyal to Western, White Culture. When they became traitors, they opened the dikes and now Jews control admissions. Asians are discriminated against and Whites are the least represented of all groups.
What is the Mystery? Only Whites like you are bemused with bizarre ideas of universalism. You justify our demise because it’s “fair”. As Dante said, the Treasonous belong on one of the lowest circles of Hell.
Virginia is the next abortion target. Legislator asked if a woman in labor and dilated could still abort the fetus with the proposed bill. The answer was yes.
Barbaric.
Idea. Put a mirror in place so that Mom can view the destruction of the fetus. Bet that would stop this abomination.
Wonder what the Catholic hierarchy is doing this week?
“Legislator asked if a woman in labor and dilated could still abort the fetus with the proposed bill. The answer was yes.
Barbaric.”
If that’s true I quite agree with you, JohnAZ. I think in some respects your country really is going mad. In the UK only abortions for medical reasons are allowed after 24 weeks (and in fairness there are some rare but very serious abnormalities which don’t show themselves early on).
We should remember that, whatever the legislation, the actual numbers of abortions are far higher in the early stages, and very few actually happen really late, but I agree, that’s demented thinking. Even more so when you think of all those couples who try unsuccessfully to have kids themselves. And I’ve known some of those – nice people who’d make lovely parents and it just doesn’t happen.
Between this and politicians drone-striking parties of civilians to kill one “bad guy”, I think that those who “lead” us have made a loud and clear statement of what value they put on human lives, or at least our human lives, and that is zero, zilch. How long before delivery room abortion decisions are made based on the sex or physical condition of the baby being born? If it is ok to kill them once they are birthed, will it one day be ok to kill them a week later?
Well that unfortunately has happened in China and India, Walter, where female infanticide (not just female abortion) has seriously messed with male and female demographics over the decades, with unsurprising social consequences, including women being abducted from other regions or even neighbouring countries.
I haven’t read about the business of approving abortions up to the moment of birth, but I’m as shocked as you are. They’re going to have to give birth to it anyway – think of the poor, heartbroken souls who have to give birth to a baby they know has died in utero – and people are crying out for babies to adopt.
sorry, didn’t close my pedantic ‘latin’ brackets!
24 weeks is the viability point.
Mario Cuomo and his cohorts had a celebration when the moment of birth abortion law was signed in New York. The Catholic Church condemned the act. He went after the Catholic bishops the next day for sexual misconduct coverups. He is a professed Catholic, which is difficult to believe. Some in the church want him excommunicated. Satanic behavior.
Google late term abortion to see the barbarism of the procedure and why I think of doing it to a viable fetus should be murder.
And you are right, America is going mad.
“people are crying out for babies to adopt”…
Those same voices are also crying out for abortion to be banned.
I don’t see the point of giving them what they want on one hand and fighting them with the other.
These people are creeps. Children, contrary to common belief, aren’t in need of being integrated into a 2-person nuclear household.
They could instead be integrated in a barracks of 100 kids each, with martial training and education in Stoicism, philosophy, mathematics, and classical as well as practical arts.
With this approach I think it solves the problem of the confused young adult with no sense of self. They will be iron willed stoics, fee-thinking and self-reliant.
Right – because children are nothing more than economic resources for the corporatist state. What a sad and bleak worldview.
There you go SSL, children are future workers and taxpayers potentially, so the government and industry has use for them. Strong evidence for this argument can be seen in the tax code, where credits such as he Child Tax Credit, and large increases in Earned Income are given for the more children you have. And the IRS credits you for childcare expenses too, Those with children are rewarded in the past and right now because they need them later. What will happen once they are no longer useful I wonder? When AI, robots, and cloning can supply all the future humans the government and industry needs? Will up to birth abortions become retroactive or maybe required? How about mass sterilization either outright or covertly? Maybe they will just cull the herd, and because we can no longer trust the government, can we ever know how low they will go?
“They could instead be integrated in a barracks of 100 kids each, with martial training and education in Stoicism, philosophy, mathematics, and classical as well as practical arts. ”
SnakPak,
Yes, and keep the accommodations Spartan….
“It takes a unit of maneuver to raise a child.” Hilary Clinton (paraphrased).
“They will be iron willed stoics, fee-thinking and self-reliant.”
Fee-thinking? Interesting Freudian slip, given what so much of American life is about.
Wrong Deb. Many Communard kids talk about how their upbringing messed them up.
Bruno Bettleheim’s claims in ‘Children of the Dream’ were largely discredited too, from what I recall.
But I think Snack Pack was pulling our collective leg in the first place.
I probably spelt his name wrong. Bettelheim I think.
I think they are planning to cull the herd Walter. You’re right. In their way of thinking drones and AI will be perfect replacements for people.
Yes, what is the point? The woman has already gone thru pregnancy and labor. So it’s just savagery in the name of Political Victory at this point. Or as Walt opined: a sacrifice of the infant to Moloch and/or profit by selling the baby’s head or some such gruesome thing.
Have the baby and give it up for adoption. You don’t even have to look at it, sweeties.
It is human sacrifice at that point. Keeping the baby or adoption should be the only two legal choices in such situations.
“Wonder what the Catholic hierarchy is doing this week?”
Genuflecting and passing the basket to raise money for refugees from central America where abortion is banned from the Rio Grande to Tierra Del Fuego…
Abortion is legal in Mexico. and hes been for ages.
Janis Joplin nad hers there.
The Crisis of Diarchy in the United States. Part 1.
In the previous post, I explained why the series of posts on the Big Bargain begins with the confirmation of Judge Kavanaugh and ends with the verdict to General Flynn.
The fact is that the dramatic change in American domestic politics that led me to conclude that a Big Bargain was struck literally within an hour between the confirmation hearings of Judge Kavanaugh, and the sentence to General Flynn, or rather, its absence showed that the Bush and Trump alliance comparable, and even stronger than the Deep State headed by Hillary Clinton.
It was the Big Bargain that created the Crisis of Diarchy in the United States, since before that the power of Hillary Clinton was indisputable, despite the victory of Donald Trump in the presidential elections in 2016.
And one of the reasons for concluding a Big Bargain was the mutual desire of the contracting parties to prevent the US Cold War from heating up to the temperature of freshly spilled blood, which spontaneously began to pour before the midterm elections.
I don’t know what exactly Trump and Bush’s mid-term election agreement was about, but it’s clear that without violence, Bushes could prevent Hillary from faking election results only in those polling stations where George W. Bush won in 2000.
And if, after this, to look at the US electoral map, it becomes immediately clear that in the midterm elections the Republicans would win the elections to the Senate, but they would lose the elections to the House of Representatives.
And when this simple calculation was confirmed, it indirectly confirmed the Big Bargain.
The counting of votes strongly resembled the 2000 election, but Bushes and Trump did not raise the issue of falsifying the results of elections to the House of Representatives, as their victory in the Senate guaranteed them a minimum level of security, and the accusations of the Clintonoids for counterfeiting could provoke a stream of counter-accusations that could jeopardize their win in the Senate, but Hillary then seriously counted on the constitutional majority in the House of Representatives, and Trump, realizing that such a purposeful person doesn’t simply give up on her plans because of some voters, literally on the same day, on November 7, brought in a prepared request about the resignation of Attorney General Sessions, who, as it became clear, Hillary Clinton sent to him in the very beginning of his election campaign.
Moreover, the Big Bargain negotiations began no later than June 7, 2017, when Trump, under constant pressure from the Clintonoids, still nominated George Bush Jr. protégé Christopher Wray for FBI Director, whose place in the overall alignment of forces becomes clear from an analysis of the 2012 elections.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_A._Wray
Wray, realizing that he alone cannot control the Clinton-controlled Attorney General’s Department of Justice, until recently sat quietly, not interfering with the alignment of forces, until Jeff Sessions was fired literally on Election Day and on November 7 another Bush protégé was appointed as an Acting Prosecutor General, Matthew Whittaker, who was immediately attacked by Democrats in the Senate, denying the legitimacy of his appointment, but the Republican had the majority in the Senate and these efforts were lost in vain.
Finally, the Big Bargain found its political footing literally the next day after the funeral of George Bush Sr. and the Western leaders meeting immediately after the funeral, when President Trump nominated US Attorney General William Barr.
The latter was the US Attorney General in 1990-1991 in the administration of George Bush Sr. and his political career was derailed by the victory in the 1992 presidential election of Bill Clinton, but in fact the victory of his wife Hillary Clinton.
And the day before the funeral, former US Secretary of State James Baker gave an interview to the main Clinton channel(PBS), which was the response of the Bush clan to the proposal to unite with the Clinton clan to oppose Putin’s Russia and Trump’s America.
And in this interview, James Baker, on behalf of the Bush clan, of which William Barr and Matthew Whittaker are part, rejected the proposal and explained to the viewers of the main Clinton channel, further strengthening this explanation in his speech at the funeral, that the US conflict with Putin’s Russia and the degradation of the civilized political struggle in Washington after 2016 is the result of the dishonest use of a spoiler named Ross Perot in the 1992 election campaign and, accordingly, Clinton’s dishonorable victory in 1992 (04:45), due to which the Clintonoids will have to gobble up the porridge, which they had cooked themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX-hZS7afjw
Moreover, almost all the funeral speeches that were made by Bush supporters were very politically charged against Hillary Clinton, as they somehow hinted at the refusal of NATO expansion and some new Marshall plan for the former republics of the USSR, which Bush had to implement during his second term.
And I would say that if you add up these speeches, it turns out that supporters of the Bush clan in December 2018 buried with the 41st President of the United States a whole world, the construction of which they were supposed to begin under his leadership in 1992 and whose collective description is more or less corresponds to the apocryphal interview of George H. W. Bush.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgwrDaQepNo
And then no less apocryphal pieces of the political and not only political testaments of the deceased began to appear, showing that he foresaw that the clash of geopolitical views of the world that would unfold at his funeral and that he repented not only the destruction of the USSR, but also those quasi-Christian “considerations” , on the basis of which his father, Ronald Reagan and he himself spun the diabolical spiral of the Cold War, and also what he understood – the victory of Hillary Clinton in 1992 and the collapse of the world, which he was going to build in the second term, is a natural result of his efforts and the efforts of his family, and a picture of this world, which obviously has been in his sight all these years and which was painted by his supporters over his coffin – the beauty that made them pave its way.
And William Barr’s confirmation hearings, in which he with great skill avoided answering questions about the impact on the US foreign policy of his potential subordinate special prosecutor Mueller, nevertheless showed that 41 US president did not hide from his Attorney General that mystical experience that I can only characterize as repentance.
All of this has thrown a mystical reflection on the struggle for the US Department of Justice, not only dark but also light, but mystic business is serious and requires separate consideration, which I hope people will be engaged in who are much more qualified than me.
For now, I want to note that the cleansing of the relevant materials, on the basis of which these qualified people will conduct their research for many years after the diarchy crisis has been resolved one way or another, has already begun, which is easy to see if you start looking for Baker’s interview with keywords “James + Baker + interview + PBS” or any combination thereof.
And this purge is very similar to the purge that historical materials on the Fourth Crusade underwent, after the Black World Project, having crushed all its opponents in the “Christian” world, suffered a crushing military defeat from the troops of Genghis Khan.
And the link to Finca’s description of apocryphal interview of George H. W. Bush:
http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/deep-quandaries-of-the-deep-state/#comment-383839
Why are you referring to yourself in the third person? Is this some kind of argument for the filioque?
Brevity, Finca, brevity.
I think I was very brief considering the 30-year period of political history I tried to cover in my post.
Point taken.
Much ground was covered.
Where do you get this stuff?
Brh
How about a War instead of a Wall?
Miami Herald
A new Brookings Institution study forecasting that the number of Venezuelan refugees will skyrocket to 8 million should trigger alarm bells in the United States and Latin America. It would be the world’s biggest mass exodus in recent times — bigger than the Syrian refugee crisis — and could destabilize the region.
The study, by Brookings’ Venezuelan-Israeli resident economist Dany Bahar and researcher Douglas Barrios, says its projection includes the 3 million Venezuelans who, according to the United Nations, have already left their country because of its humanitarian crisis. Most of the refugees have fled to Colombia.
JS: A Wall would just get in the way of all the refugees from the war. Good thinking, Trump.
I believe the Minutemen from the Northern tier have volunteered to provide surveillance support for the border. Problem solved!
Just kidding, sort of. But your idea of war may just happen. If the invaders continue to get aggressive, how much aggressiveness will be tolerated before the shooting has to start.
And you are right, the expatriation of Venezuela will eventually be aimed north. The more that Americans show their economy is so strong, the more motivation will occur with the Latinos.
I’m still waiting for the Wall and my feelings are getting hurt for real. I hate when someone promises something and they don’t follow through. And he can just have the military build it no problem. There better not be any more games played after this February 15th deadline. If there is any more funny business at that point I’m gonna go off the reservation!
So, now with good ole’ Schultzie talking about a go at the White Palace, the Dems have got their knickers in a twist. They’re all thinking holy shit, this goof might just hand the win back to Trump.
The thing is this, I doubt it will be worth winning. Whoever gets to 270 in ’20 will likely regret inauguration day and the day he won the nomination and the day he decided to run and the day he was born. He’ll probably be moaning between the boobs of some cute little twist they hired as an intern, telling her, come on let’s just go to some beach where they don’t have an extradition treaty. Yeah, yeah, it could be a gal that wins, in which case it’ll be some bronzed Italianate gigolo oozing fake sensitivity that she’s moaning to.
The thing is this, the Republican Party is pretty much dead. There’s still some believers out there who see themselves as real marines, rock-ribbed conservatives, ready to re-take that hill. And, who knows, they might actually do it, maybe just to keep some loon “progressive” out of power. But to KEEP it, that’s another thing. You need a lot of boots on the ground, local organizations to do the manual labor. Billionaire funding isn’t enough.
If Kansas isn’t buying Republican bull-shit anymore, this just opens things up to a “Schultz” on the “right”, whose role it will be to preside over GOP funeral rites. Who knows, we might see an American version of one of the numerous European nationalist movements come up in its place.
Alternatively, if Trump wins again, another four years of him might be enough to kill the beast.
Either way, everyone knows that the Republicans, with all their fake pieties about patriotism and the second amendment, are full of shit. They’re done. It’s over. Trump’s win pretty much proved it. One down, one to go.
Consider this.
Schultz is considered to be A social liberal and a fiscal conservative.
Trump is considered socially more moderate but definitely fiscally conservative.
One is a real estate developer with good success, the other made strong coffee a social event. Both are members of a nouveau elite.
Both are sick of the two party system and both should run as independents. That would certainly put a few nails into the coffins of the Dems and the GOP.
I am interested in anyone who states he is against the looney Progressives in the country.
“Trump is considered socially more moderate but definitely fiscally conservative.”
Holy shit!! The “king of debt” is fiscally conservative?
Who knew?
They’re both entitled, billionaire assholes.
While Shultz has spend 36 years with the same business and overseen its phenomenal success — and now is overseeing its inevitable demise.
However, Trump is dumber than a rock. If this was the choice in 2020, I’d emigrate.
Why is it that the only people who make it to the level of consideration for President is either a crook, very wealthy or beholden to so many people, he is useless?
You are going to find out that Trump is not dumb, but is definitely fighting off a bunch of dumb people.
Curiosity, where are you going to go? I haven’t found anywhere to go that is better.
Curiosity, where are you going to go?
They all say that. Liars.
I know. Move already! We are tired of hearing the whining and temper tantrums.
My goodness does GreenAlba get pedantic when butthurt.
Serve in paradise or rule in hell. We all make choices. I prefer Feisty. Perhaps she has some Manchester blood.
Feistiness is good for the bedroom, not for the domicile. In my experience.
revilo
I suppose it would be pedantic to point out that this is a discussion board and not a domicile. Which would make any self-respecting pedant think ‘non sequitur…’.
But thank you for that insight into your preferences, in that ‘I like my women quiet’ kind of way.
Our domicile’s quiet as the tomb most of the time, during the day, except for the clickety click of pedantry or work, or a bit of music, or the kettle boiling. Or His Nibs watching an old film on his iPad. You’d find it very dull. Even the dog sleeps most of the time – in the bedroom, in the domicile…
And now my pedantic brain is wondering why your bedroom isn’t in your domicile. Is he a jolly singleton, I ask myself, or a married man with an expat bedroom for a bit of the old extra-curricular how’s-yer-father? Or is his bedroom in the woods for that authentic frontiersman experience?
Only kidding…
‘Tis a tribulation, being a pedant. You’ve no idea.
Your domicile sounds like a real hoot.
It’s an arsehole-free zone, though, which makes up for a lot.
K-Dog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YENYMwuCG2Y
….
I’m a rambler, I’m a rambler from Manchester way
I get all me pleasure the hard moorland way
I may be a wageslave on Monday
But I am a free man on Sunday
The day was just ending and I was descending
Down Grinesbrook just by Upper Tor
When a voice cried “Hey you” in the way keepers do
He’d the worst face that ever I saw
The things that he said were unpleasant
In the teeth of his fury I said
“Sooner than part from the mountains
I think I would rather be dead”
He called me a louse and said “Think of the grouse”
Well i thought, but I still couldn’t see
Why all Kinder Scout and the moors roundabout
Couldn’t take both the poor grouse and me
He said “All this land is my master’s”
At that I stood shaking my head
No man has the right to own mountains
Any more than the deep ocean bed.
I’m a rambler, I’m a rambler from Manchester way
I get all me pleasure the hard moorland way
I may be a wageslave on Monday
But I am a free man on Sunday…
*****
Old (dead) lefty with a talent for words.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_trespass_of_Kinder_Scout
Ozone too. Known variously as the Old Woman’s Son or “the Son of the Old Woman”.
What is the significance of the fact that the “Limits-to-Growth-in-a-Finite-World” argument does not apply to Internet businesses with infinite profit and growth margins that operate in Cyberspace?
What advice do you have for a bloke who is thinking of building a bunker? How long can a bloke survive on beer?
Many years ago, I saw an Australian Broadcasting Corporation News Report about a bloke living in a trailer in the Australian Outback who broke his leg. He managed to crawl back to his trailer and survive for 2 weeks just drinking Fosters Beer in his refrigerator until help arrived. I suspect that he was probably really hiding out from his wife and that that the survival saga story was just an excuse?
A bunker might be a good excuse, if only to get away from The Wife?
Now was this bloke’s wife really that bad? Maybe she was just asking him to stay sober for two seconds to make some repairs around the trailer. And since he was drunk he ended up breaking his leg and he hid so he wouldn’t have to listen to her b*tch about his drinking habits :-p.
There’s a recent article about Bill Cosby on the Internet and in the comments section everyone talks about “Spanish Fly”. Everyone thinks that Bill Cosby was slipping white women “Spanish Fly”.
I think that Dr. Cosby many years ago did a Stand Up routine on “Spanish Fly”, but that was the whole joke: There is no such thing as “Spanish Fly”. It doesn’t exist. So it’s a bit ironic that people seem to insist that Bill Cosby was pushing “Spanish Fly”.
Ironically, the inmates in the prison probably keep asking Bill Cosby where they can procure some “Spanish Fly” to make the white female Corrections Officers really horny?
The guy who “invented” Sea Monkeys was a masterful Jewish Raconteur, at one point even developing plastic watches with water inside so the kids could take their Sea Monkeys to school. Even better, he was a vehement Anti-Semitic American Patriot.
Really? A Jewish person can be anti-Semitic???
Yes, they are derided by other Jews as “self hating Jews”, but they are Heroes!
I love heroes. We need so many heroes right now I am unable to think straight.
How the hell do you know all this stuff?
And Bobby Fischer was yr hero? An anti semetic genius.
Did you know the billionaire owner of 99 cent store chain is Jewish?
Yeah, hey as long as it’s not a dollar, right? Why are you obsessed with me knowing things? Almost to the point of anger?
I’m sure you know many things that I do not. The more information, the less knowledge. The more knowledge, the less Wisdom. I keep myself balanced by not knowing things and studying the Scriptures. The above factoid was interesting because I grew up obsessed with Sea Monkeys – not knowing what they actually were was the Golden Key you see. From there my Imagination could work on it. Now after decades of “work” the actual knowing (lil shrimp!) is simply a delightful desert compared to the Meal I have prepared for myself.
Just reread my post. What a beautiful mind I have. I certainly have little to do with it. It’s all God’s doing. I didn’t bring myself into being, nor do I maintain my being. Nor do I bring it to an end. This is not just true of the physical body, but the mind and soul as well. Nothing abides but His Face. Thus we are His slaves. Some of us know it and some of us don’t is all. But there is much in that knowing….
You do have a beautiful mind. It mystifies me sometimes :-).
“a delightful desert”?
Sahara? Kalahari?
Seems beautiful minds can get away with a lot…
“Seems beautiful minds can get away with a lot…”
Alba,
Yes, but not nearly so much as a beautiful woman.
Many people must think that Bill Cosby was surreptitiously slipping “Spanish Fly” in white women’s drinks to make them really horny and fuck him?
What if this whole AI Thang is just a big scam of IT companies to make huge profits stealing our data and violating our privacy to create bullshit predictive algorithms to sell to nincompoop government and corporate suckers?
Pucker
Outstanding two lines. You summarized the situation succintly and well.
Just do not forget your friendly Federal government and their AI component in the NSA.
Suggested read. The Digital Fortress by Dan Brown.
etrayal: American Conservatives and Capitalism
Gregory Hood, American Renaissance, January 28, 2019
How movement conservatism works against the interests of its base.
“Conservatism,” wrote Russell Kirk, “is the negation of ideology.” Kirk argued that conservatism wasn’t defined by a “system of ideological dogmata” but by the belief that “a people’s historic continuity of experience” is a better guide than “the abstract designs of coffee-house philosophers.” The conservative movement has forgotten his words. Abstractions and slogans, generously called “principles,” dominate its rhetoric. The most sacrosanct shibboleth for the past half-century has been “the free market.” This paramount “principle” is invoked to force conservatives to accept open borders, mass immigration, globalism, outsourcing, and other policies that infuriate ordinary Americans. Astonishingly, few conservatives have dared to challenge the “free market” orthodoxy—until now.
In late December, thousands of conservative students attended Turning Point USA’s Student Action Summit. One of the highlights was a discussion that turned into a debate between Tucker Carlson and the organization’s founder, Charlie Kirk. Mr. Carlson repeated some of the points from his now famous monologue on the economic and social costs of globalization, automation, and neoliberal economics. Charlie Kirk agreed with much of Mr. Carlson’s analysis, but placed most of the blame on the government. Mr. Carlson suggested that powerful companies are a bigger problem—and they don’t support conservatives anyway. He also implied national solidarity is a higher goal than free market orthodoxy. The crowd cheered, while Mr. Kirk desperately tried to discourage it and repeated pro-free market slogans. Mr. Kirk also downplayed the problems Mr. Carlson outlined.
Mr. Kirk’s main response to Mr. Carlson’s critique was that a real “free market” did not exist in America. For example, he conceded that American workers are suffering from bad trade deals with China. However, because Americans don’t have “real free trade” with China, Mr. Kirk suggested this isn’t an inherent flaw of the market. Mr. Carlson forcibly combatted this view, arguing that the free market ultimately means using cheap foreign labor while our countrymen remain poor.
Mr. Carlson argued that unless conservatives are willing to confront hostile elites and widespread social and economic problems, they will have a sweeping socialist program imposed on them. He’s probably right. While conservative pundits snipe at figures like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a recent poll found most voters support her plan for a 70 percent marginal tax rate on those making more than ten million dollars a year. Sean Hannity calls this policy “radical,” but almost half of self-identified Republicans approved of AOC’s plan to soak the rich.
A 2017 Pew Research Center analysis that divided Republican voters into four ideological clusters found that the second largest was a group called “Market Skeptical Republicans,” who were 12 percent of the general public and 22 percent of “Republican and Republican-leaning” voters. “Core Conservatives” constituted 13 percent of the public, but were a far larger share of those characterized as “engaged Republican and Republican-leaning voters,” at 43 percent. In other words, while ideological conservatives are likely to dominate the caucuses and party organizations, they are not representative of the larger public, nor do they define what all Republican voters believe.
Almost all “Market Skeptical Republicans” believe that “the economy unfairly serves powerful interests,” and a majority favors raising taxes on corporations and large businesses. These figures should be especially ominous for the free market faithful because they come at a time when the economy is performing well. Free markets can be an effective tool, but conservatives mistakenly claim they are perfect. By doing so, they also antagonize Market Skeptical Republican voters that the GOP needs to win elections, especially in the Rust Belt states Donald Trump carried in 2016.
It’s also bizarre that conservatives continue to sacrifice their political position by fighting for unpopular policies rather than the populist stances that put them in office. President Trump made no progress on the border wall when Republicans controlled Congress, largely because the GOP put its effort behind cutting regulations, an incoherent health care plan, and tax cuts. Worse, many who benefited from deregulation and tax cuts are not conservative. Instead, America is dominated by a leftist elite that is increasingly open about its desire to deconstruct the nation, the family, religion, borders, sovereignty, and other institutions conservatives are supposed to defend.
A recent analysis from the Capital Research Center found Democrats are more reliant than Republicans on campaign contributions from America’s richest neighborhoods in New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Washington, D.C. In the 2018 midterm elections, Democrats increased their hold on America’s wealthiest congressional districts. “[D]ata suggest these affluent voters have pocketed the tax cut and went out and voted for the Democrats,” said the Hoover Institute’s Jeremy Carl. The country’s richest man, Jeff Bezos, owns the liberal Washington Post, and Amazon removes products at the demand of leftist interest groups. Mark Zuckerberg’s Facebook is biased against conservatives and has helped ruin several conservative websites by manipulating its algorithm. Despite President Trump delivering on a largely unpopular tax cut for the wealthy, the Koch Brothers have pledged not to support him during the 2020 election. Michael Bloomberg finances pro-immigration and pro-gun control causes and may be a Democratic candidate in the 2020 presidential election. The original taunt of “cuckservative” applied to conservatives “who hurt their own supporters and humiliate themselves.” It’s hard to imagine a worse form of cucking than sacrificing for the interests of a class of left-wing billionaires.
More broadly, one of the lifelines of “democracy” is in danger when the flow of information is controlled by a few private interests. The endless investigation into “Russian disinformation” shows that both Republicans and Democrats realize that online information sways election results. Mr. Carlson pointed out during his talk that this information is chiefly controlled by Google. “Who is actually likely to suppress your ability to say and think what you want or prevent you from getting a job—Google or the US government?” he asked. “It’s not even close!” Mr. Kirk’s lame response was to suggest pulling government contracts and subsidies from Google, something Mr. Carlson retorted would hardly hurt Google’s bottom line.
Ultimately, Mr. Kirk was not willing to entertain anything that would challenge the existing corporate power structure, even if it is opposed to everything he believes in. This isn’t surprising given that his organization exists to “empower” activists who fight for “free markets and limited government.” In any conflict, the side that focuses on the process rather than the end is the losing side, so it’s not surprising that “movement conservatism” has failed to conserve anything important. If politics is about power, the conservative movement isn’t a political movement. It tells its followers that “principles” don’t allow the defense of real “interests.” Mr. Kirk isn’t “empowering” his followers; he is disarming them.
Ironically, the pinned Tweet on Mr. Kirk’s feed is not about “free markets.” It’s about a policy the Chamber of Commerce opposes:
This rhetorical appeal to populism is a familiar tactic of Conservatism, Inc. When grassroots conservatives fume over the latest left-wing cultural and social outrages, Beltway conservative functionaries and politicians exploit the discontent to raise money and promote themselves, but rather than using the money to fight back on cultural issues, they put more effort into conservative “principles,” such as “limited government” and “free markets.” Ordinary Americans lured in with promises of combating “illegal immigration” or “left-wing bias on campus” get tax cuts and deregulation for Nike and Gillette. Thus, they end up serving the same elite responsible for most of the policies that outraged them in the first place.
What the Beltway conservative movement ultimately conserves is the supremacy of a hostile elite. This is the classic “respectable conservatism” so lauded by the likes of National Review. Rather than “conservatism,” it is best called collaboration.
Joe Sobran captured movement conservatism’s essence when he called it “a game, a way of making a living.” Anyone who takes conservatism seriously and oppose political correctness jeopardizes Conservatism, Inc.’s controlled opposition status, and is quickly expelled. This leads to cynicism, and those who remain are unprincipled careerists. Some move on to a better racket—conservative donors have launched the careers of “up-and-coming conservative stars” such as Oliver Darcy, Betsy Woodruff, and Kaitlin Collins who eventually defect to better funded leftist outlets and denounce their former comrades.
Mr. Carlson is an authentic conservative who recognizes that capitalism, which “privileges efficiency above all,” can undermine the institutions, social norms, and community bonds that are necessary for society. To a patriot, one’s country must be more than a continent-sized shopping mall. Ultimately, the question is whether the economy is a tool that serves the nation, or whether the nation serves the economy. If the American conservative movement decides it is the latter, it is no position to complain about the decline of patriotism or religion.
Capitalism can undermine the family. If “labor has less value than when I was a kid,” as Mr. Carlson said, then it is harder for workers to start a family or afford a home. If conservatives can’t recognize this, they shouldn’t pose as “pro-family.” A real “pro-family” policy is Affordable Family Formation long suggested by Steve Sailer, or the Hungarian government’s program of subsidizing families and restricting immigration.
None of this, Mr. Carlson would undoubtedly add, is “racist.” Americans of all races suffer from the drug epidemic, the decline in living standards, and mass migration’s downward pressure on wages.
And yet race is central to everything Mr. Tucker is talking about. European-Americans are especially vulnerable to these destructive trends because they have had their racial, national, and cultural identities ripped away. Though leftists often argue that capitalists promote nationalism or racism to “keep workers divided,” the opposite is true. Noam Chomsky famously stated that capitalism “wants people to be interchangeable cogs” and race, as a “human characteristic,” is a “nuisance” in this. Marinated in a culture of self-hatred and told by their supposed conservative defenders that they are just economic units, it’s not surprising many whites end it all with the bottle, a needle, or a bullet.
Capitalism is a tool, not an idol. By exposing capitalism’s threat to the American nation, Tucker Carlson has provided a great service to the American Right. The demographic replacement of white America and the white working class aren’t the results of a natural process. They are the products of specific choices made by American elites and policymakers. The controlled opposition of movement conservatism prevents whites from challenging these elites. Movement conservatism, in its current form, contributes to the hopelessness plaguing so many of our people.
The whites who built America were not meant to be cogs in a soulless machine, nor servants of a hostile elite. No one in power seems to care about their suffering. American whites must become masters over both our economic and our political destinies.
JS: Until John Az imbibes this pov and make it his own, he will remain conflicted; his head believing things that betray the best of what his heart values. The Left and the Right and their normie minions will scream, “Fascism” – and yes John – they will be correct. We don’t need to call it that of course. We must respect human limitations due to the exigencies of history. But at the same time we must not let those exigencies rule us and deter us from living in the Light of Reality.
Since there is a Black Caucus and Hispanic Caucus in Congress we need to establish a White Caucus. I am sure the media would love that. Of course they will call White advocates facists no matter what. At a certain point though name-calling is just a lot of worthless hot air. And at the same time Black advocates openly call for the extermination of Whites without penalty.
Yes, Freedom begins between the ears. Resist defamation. We can begin by stop accepting the Left as our Moral Authorities! May God have mercy on us.
It will make no difference SSL. We have a Black Legislator’s Caucus here in New Jersey that strongly opposes the legalization of maryjuwanna, and they are being totally ignore for opinions of any group are discounted when they do not fall in line with the agenda of Those Who Rule. It’s like black conservatives, thy are total pariah’s, ignored by the right and demonized by the left. We are up against a demonic agenda and we humans are powerless to stop it. Ask Andrew Cuomo, he’ll tell ya.
“Of course they will call White advocates facists no matter what.”
Is there no end to the ways people will discriminate? Are we now to be judged on our faces as well? 🙂
We are judged on our faces every day ;-). Mine is always happy and smiling except when my feelings get hurt and I get down.
Good. Just watch out for those fascists. They’re much worse than facists, trust me…
Lol very witty of you ?.
The society has become unhinged….
I read somewhere that some Feminists advocate the right to kill your kids after birth and up to 4 years of age. I need a Bunker….
“The bill, which clears the path for abortions up to 40 weeks, was cheered by Planned Parenthood and the pro-choice movement — One World Trade Center was lit pink afterward to celebrate — even as the outcry from abortion opponents continues to escalate.”
Well, a big moneymaker for planned parenthood is marketing chopped up baby parts, so these new laws in NY ought to be a gold mine for them. They’ll make a killing with these more mature innards and appendages, no pun intended.
The new pres of pp is a chinese doctor who pulls down about 750 gs per year, so the increased income will be welcome to say the least.
Nothing to fret over.
Brh
I’m not fretting. Dr. Wen is doing great work!
https://youtu.be/P8bCLk-eueo
Yep, and some people think the drug cartels and human traffickers do great jobs too. That’s why they are so busy these days.
Yes, I know.
That’s why pp is payng her the big bucks.
Brh
Chinese doctor = chinese butcher.
“One World” Trade Center. The commies really are laughing in our faces at this point. It would be hard to top the crescent and minaret in Shanksville though.
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/05/us/05memorial.html
The Marxists and Islamists are fair weather allies. Little do the Marxists know that the Muslims plan on ridding the Earth of Marxism once they have finished using it as a tool to destroy Western Civilization from within.
Wow, its amazing what you can learn from Cracker Jack boxes these days
And far better source of intel than the NYT! You even get a tasty treat AND a prize!
What happened to the good Debbie that we saw for a few days? Now you’re back to being a little Wasserman-Schultz.
Must be an after effect of coming down from a sugar high.
I prefer Cracker Jacks to Slim Jacks. Slim Jacks are greasy.
Devon Stack of the website Blackpilled.com says that he once contemplated buying an old abandoned Presbyterian Church that he thinks would be “Awesome” to convert into a post-Apocalypse survival bunker. He said that the “Church” has a bell tower that would make a “great sniper’s nest.”
I personally think that sniper’s nests are way overrated. I think that what you really need is some kind of Google Death-Ray “App”, right?
Apparently, every time that you innocently open an App on your Google Android phone, that App on average automatically opens 76 other tracking Apps to track your ass running in the background. If you could rig it so that the zombie’s Android phone blows up using a Google Death-Ray App then you could wipe out a whole city instantly. Fuck the bell tower snipers nest. That’s so “Old School”….
What about a moat with alligators? Or better yet, Caiman.
Have you noticed that Howard Schultz has a prominent chin? It makes sense that he is a billionaire. People with prominent chins are allegedly high energy, confident, hard-working, goal-oriented, pushy and flirtacious. On the other hand, Kamala Harris has a square chin. People with square chins are typically attractive, stubborn, straight to the point, unfiltered, and uncompromising. Just keep in mind that chin assessments are critical in determining who to vote for ;-). Let’s make 2020 the Year of the Chin!
Hopefully, prominent chins knock the heck out of square chins in the public square.
Lol – A war of the chins it is!
Bashar al Assad doesn’t have a chin at all and he’s doing OK. I guess it depends who your friends are too.
He actually has a square chin if you look closely or at least that is my take.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/304/media/images/52822000/jpg/_52822976_011795434-1.jpg
Let’s say his chin isn’t his er…leading feature.
Lol oh Alba that pic is so unflattering for him. Here is one he would feel better about.
https://consortiumnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/President-Bashar-al-Assad.jpg
His ears are pointy. He must be a creative person and an independent thinker.
2019 has already been designated the Year of the Chins in China.
Shucks!!! Well then 2020 can be the Year of the Elbows :-). What do you think about that?
Or maybe it was the year of the Wongs.
Lol that’s good! Nothing wong with that :-).
The Old Testament of the Bible is a long history of the relationship between the Jewish people and God. It documents God inspiring the people, then watching the people desert allegiance to God and becoming idol worshippers and then God leaves taking his protection away. The Jews have been “ punished”a myriad of times for their leaving God and becoming immoral in God’s eyes.
America, which was created by a miraculous melding of many interests in the 18 th century and has survived much discord for over two hundred years. Lately, it sure seems like God has left us due to our immorality. If so, the future is grim.
Have you ever heard the term “proximate cause”?
When querying the source of some effect, the likeliest cause is one in proximity to an effect.
God is not in proximity to any effect.
Problems in our world all have causes we do not see either because they are hidden, by design or accident, or we are too lazy to investigate, or we are willfully ignorant. Period.
The “proximity” DILEMNA is answered with
“…in Him we live, and move and have our being…”
Too many preplanned, unplanned, over-controlled catastrophes with too much blame and misdirection, over decades of a single life [ you are a witness ] to remain a viable delusion. The adversary exists.
God gave the Mosaic laws to Moses and the Hebrews. Part of the laws dealt with hygiene and disease control that gave the Hebrews advantage. Their population rose greatly during their forty years in the desert. God supports folks that follow his pathway.
The plagues, droughts, wars occur due to people problems, not God problems. The thing that always get people in trouble is the absence of God and his influence.
When God gave us free choice, he committed to non-interference in human affairs, human choice.
Our worst enemy is ourselves. Blaming God for anything is a cop out.
“God supports folks that follow his pathway.’
So why didn’t he reveal his pathway to everybody everywhere, JohnAZ, and not just to a tiny bunch of people with no means of real communication to anyone else?
And why not a thousand years earlier, in China, for example? Didn’t they deserve a chance? They’d got themselves organised earlier than most.
Answers which are variations of ‘God works in mysterious ways’ or ‘it’s not for us to ask why God does what he does’ aren’t answers.
So, if a flea with Yersinia pestis jumps on a rat that wanders into your village, that’s a ‘people problem’?
I hope you’re not suggesting people created rats. Or fleas. Or Yersinia pestis.
As a Universalist, I agree. The Doctrine of Providence – or that God takes cares of the World and the Souls He created – has never been really developed by Christianity to any great degree. Because obviously most people never had a chance to become Christians and therefore must have been given other ways to come unto Him by other paths. This is verboten to orthodoxies everywhere, especially in the West. As Hirshi Ali said, the Abrahamic religions are all alike in that they believe only they are right and everyone is wrong.
Janos
All making sense until ‘and therefore must…’ There’s no ‘must’ about it, which is why your musings have taken you in one direction and mine have taken me entirely elsewhere, despite decades of indoctrination.
No, but I am suggesting that overpopulation of Europe with its consequent overcrowding and lack of sanitation allowed pestis to take hold. What stopped it? When enough people died, it couldn’t spread anymore. Probably had the same effect on the rat population. And the flea population.
The Black Death started the Renaissance and the Reformation as the omnipotence of the Church was destroyed. Humanism emerged from the ashes and has led us to where we are today.
God does not want to control us, He wants us to control ourselves under his tutelage.
Jesus was referred to as ABBA, or teacher in his early ministry.
Until he revealed himself as the Messiah to his disciples and then God revealed him as his son during the Transfiguration.
That and the Resurrection created a base of people so inspired that they converted Western Civilization.
You ask why he chose a single race, no, a single person, Abram, to inform humanity of His existence.
????????
And the Jews aren’t the Chosen People anymore! Christians are. If you deny this bedrock, you deny Christ. That the Jews have convinced countless Christians that they are still the Chosen People was a coup of the highest magnitude. No wonder you can’t accept Fascism – they don’t like it. They who deny us a Wall but give Israel as many as it needs. They don’t care about us, John. And their Patriotism is contingent on America putting Israel first.
And from as secular pov apart from the above: Any People who put another People before themselves is obviously not long for this world. White Euro-Americans put every People before themselves and are dying at an incredible rate.
I deny it all, Janos.
Camille Paglia put it brilliantly when she said the Christian religion was a huge and amazing work of art. And so it is. Art is our attempt to understand ourselves, and religions are such an attempt.
I wish I could say it was amusing watching you all battle it out with one another, but sadly, it isn’t.
Well, sometimes it is 🙂 .
Well I was talking about its internal contradictions a la the Doctrine of Providence. If one tries to codify the infinite in the finite (as religion attempts), there is going to be failure and partial success. Just as no two dimensional map can accurately represent the three dimensional globe.
The East admits this and does much better in general. But Christianity is a true religion even if not The true religion. And it is the religion of the West, and the one I was initiated into. So for me it seems to be the best. For Wisdom, I seek other sources. But I do get real “results” and “experiences” in Christianity. That’s putting it a bit coldly, but it is the simple truth. Christ is alive somehow and somewhere and certainly in the Hearts of those who love Him.
He is real and amazing. Someone who is not open to the unseen world will be unable to accept Christ. I personally prefer art to science. Science is religion for some people and religion is science for others. There isn’t much difference between the two since both require faith and trust.
Yes, God is Beauty and therefore loves Beauty. And when we contemplate It we contemplate Him. And when we become beautiful, we draw nigh.
I said nothing about science, SSL. I just think Camille Paglia had a good way of describing what religions are – human works of art.
Religious people always say things like ‘but of course you can’t see it…’ etc. etc. What else would they say?
Just because you can’t see the fairies at the bottom of my garden doesn’t mean they’re not there.
You forget I’ve spent more time as a believer than you’ve been alive.
How do you know that the fairies don’t dance in your garden when you aren’t looking :-)? Maybe they are afraid of people.
Dancing is the least of it, SSL. You should see them on a Saturday night after the pubs close 🙂
Old Testament, child sacrifice and land grabbing.
See Exodus for ‘we took all the cities and killed all the people.’
Syncretic.
Interesting to see the learning curve in the Bible.
God’s instruction to the Hebrews to take Canaan in Exodus was to kill 100% of the inhabitants dwelling there and just take their land. He wanted no competition from the idols of the native tribes.
A couple of thousand years later, Jesus shows up with his Love message. Quite a change.
“A couple of thousand years later, Jesus shows up with his Love message…”
John,
And two thousand years after that the Jewish diaspora showed up in Palestine….
With a little assist from Adolf Hitler.
The greatest conceit of the human race is that we know what God’s plan is. He picked the Hebrews as his vanguard people on earth, and has protected them off and on through the centuries.
A saying pertains to Man’s relationship with God.
Mess with the bull, and you get the horn.
Who was learning in this learning curve? God? I’m confused.
And if SSL can put someone in a trance, why didn’t God just put the natives in a trance and wipe out the memory of their idols instead of getting the Hebrews to kill them.
I genuinely can’t believe people come out with this stuff, JohnAZ. It’s shocking.
Yes, that is what I meant. God seems to change his method of dealing with us through the history of the Bible.
And again, when God gave us free choice, he committed to no interference. Otherwise no free choice. Bad things happen because of us, not God.
To a Christian world, God’s instruction to the Hebrews is shocking.
How about late term abortion legalization being celebrated. Is that shocking?
The half has not been told. By corrupting our DNA with who-knows-what the pre-flood world was populated by their off-spring [ half lings ] who grew large and strong. Entire tribes of them populated canaan and like the flood a wave of midgets [ called themselves grasshoppers ] overcame them and took away their cities and temples. The ones they failed to eliminate enticed them into law-less-ness [1John3:4] which is always its own punishment.
“A couple of thousand years later, Jesus shows up with his Love message…”
John,
And two thousand years after that the Jewish diaspora showed up in Palestine….
which fulfilled other prophecies ignored by most because of “blindness in part”.
Yes it is shocking, JohnAZ. And if a mere human like me can see that it’s shocking, and that having one bunch of people kill another bunch of people who didn’t know any better anyway with regard to their primitive idols, then there are only a few options:
(a) God is less moral than I am.
(b) God doesn’t know what he’s doing.
(c) God doesn’t exist.
erratum
… and that having one bunch of people kill another bunch of people who didn’t know any better anyway with regard to their primitive idols IS ALSO SHOCKING, then …etc. etc.
You could move (c) to (d) and make (c) God is not good.
God works thru Men, Alba. You must bow to his Instruments.
The Old Testament is some very funny history. My fave is Holy Joe who rose high in Pharaoh’s favor by his abilities as a Prophet. So a heavy tax was implemented to gather grain for the seven hard years to come. Then Joe demanded the Egyptians buy the grain that had been gathered to sustain them. When they had no more money, they had to sell themselves into slavery just to live. Then Joe invited his clan to come on down and live high off the fat of the starving land.
And this savage betrayal and travesty is put forward as the highest morality. Who can blame for turning to the East in light of this? Thank God for Christ’s coming and a deemphasis on the Old Testament in favor of the New.
And then a new Pharaoh arose, “who know not Joseph” and demanded reparations. Thank God.
“God works thru Men, Alba. You must bow to his Instruments.”
Hahahaha… I’m off for a cuppa and to do some work.
Unbowed 🙂
I feel like you implied I was a manipulative girl working to get my way and smiling sweetly all the time to please men. My feelings are hurt because I feel like you are calling me a name without saying the name.
Just remember, pride comes before the fall. Sometimes humble is cute :-). And adding a smile with humbleness is icing on the rich and delicious cake. Gosh, I am so emotional right now because of your words Alba. But I will get over it ;-).
d. God knows more about the situation than we do, wait.
e. Compartmentalization – no need for us to KNOW at this point-in-time what God is doing.
SSL
I didn’t realise we were talking about you.
I thought we were talking about an approach to living and relationships. I make no assumptions about how you behave personally in that context – it’s none of my business unless you say it explicitly. The only thing I know is what you said about your husband and that you have young boys. That’s it. (I took the trance stuff with a pinch of salt and my comments on the ‘magic’ were a bit tongue in cheek.)
But you did present a certain kind of ‘feminine behaviour’ as conferring ‘power’. Hmmm… I don’t think I have any power beyond the personal security that I’ve earned by a lifetime of work and the self-respect that means I won’t take crap for the sake of keeping a husband (although we all have to compromise in relationships if they’re going to work). Again, that’s about me, not you.
I’m more concerned about the fact that you consider domestic violence normal and some sort of price to pay for being put on a pedestal (again I’m not talking about you, I’m talking about the culture you’re describing). It’s shocking.
I find myself wondering what the heck kind of place it is you live in. Which isn’t a reflection on you personally at all.
And it’s all bound up with religiosity. I also find myself wondering if these ‘men’ who hit their wives go to church too.
Messianicdruid
That’s fine if god exists. If he doesn’t, it’s meaningless. But you carry on – it’s your choice.
Oh ok, well I don’t think domestic violence is the price that must be paid to be put on a pedestal. I was trying to convey that many Southern men do put their women on pedestals but interestingly enough there is a high rate of domestic violence in the South as well. It does but doesn’t always include physical attacks and can also be emotional and mental beatdowns.
And people who have zero experience with it don’t get that it rewires you. The way you think and relate to people.
Well, I don’t want to be patronising, SSL, honestly, but, seriously, it’s never OK, even the emotional stuff (whether it’s men doing it or women), so don’t take it from anyone. You’re not a second-level human, whatever mystical ways Janos has of putting it.
And pedestals are for statues. If you don’t let someone put you on a pedestal, they won’t be able to knock you off it with a backhander if you ‘disappoint’ them. (I don’t mean ‘you’, I mean ‘one’ 🙂 )
You are not patronising at all. I am appreciative of what you are saying.
Before dispatching its Google Street View Car with a 360 degree lense mounted on top and equipped with devices to vacuum up person information from homes such as private emails, medical records, and credit card numbers, Google assured everyone that it would respect their privacy.
And of course, the people believed the new Lord of the land. Google, Facebook and Twitter would never, ever compromise our privacy for profit, would They?
In a pig’s ear.
It really concerns me that most people buy their BS.
Isn’t Zuckerberg ruminating over whether to run for POTUS in 2020?
They probably use drones to gather the “Behavioral Surplus” data of the Amish?
Reverend Jim Jones and I have several things in common, one Nexus being Hard Boiled Eggs.
On his Guyana Plantation, Reverend Jones would use scarce hard boiled eggs to seduce young white girls in his air conditioned bedroom. Work was grim and the slaves hungry, and, except for Reverend Jones’ bedroom, there was no air conditioning on the Plantation. Reverend Jones was trying to create a Socialist Utopia in the jungles of Guyana. 80% of the Jonestown commune was black with the cadre managers being young white college girls that Reverend Jones was boning.
Was the CIA involved? drug running?
“… except for Reverend Jones’ bedroom, there was no air conditioning on the Plantation…. the cadre managers being young white college girls that Reverend Jones was boning.”
Puck,
Sounds like a good job if you can get it….
Wow lol, all it took was hard boiled eggs??? Seduced by an egg head ;-).
I think we should build a mall on the border, a big, beautiful, penetrable mall. Inside people could shop for anything they like. Anchoring the mall would be the cartels of Mexico, Columbia, Bolivia and Peru at each cardinal point where you could buy grade A shit- cocaine, heroin, cannabis, meth, barbituates, anything your heart desires. You could tax the drugs sold at 8,000%. We could call it the Mall of the Wall. The rest of the shops could sell men, women, little boys and little girls, bestiality, sex toys. Tax the sex trade at 1,000% The Mall of the Wall. Instead of keeping people out and away, people would flock to the Mall of the Wall. Malls work, walls work. Combine the 2 and you get a smorgasboard of depravity. By the end of the year people would be saying what immigration problem? Immigrating from one of the mall to the other end? Ha! It would make Las Vegas look like Sunday school, and who wouldn’t want that. We could put Chris Christie in charge, where he would rule like Jabba the Hut.
In SF, Jones’ biggest supporter was Harvey Milk — St Harvey — spoke up for the distinguished Reverend even after the catastrophe in Guyana.
Brh
That’s almost as good as Lil Debs idea to nuke coal burning power plants inside Russia and China with ICBMs.
Promptly submit it to Ocassio-Cortez in DC for further review.
Brh
She will wrap it into the New Green Deal package since it already contains sundry policy solutions for everything from healthcare to utilities.
Yeah, she’s got all the answers. But if the world is ending in 12 years, as she claims, why bother?
Brh
Exactly – Why not party like it’s 1999 lol :-).
Your idea is disturbing seawolf but only because I can see it happening one day. Perhaps it is the goal of Those Who Rule, you know like Pleasure Island in Pinocchio. It would certainly guarantee that the ruling elite could sleep peacefully every night knowing they were safe in their debaucheries.
A note on Chris Christie. He was spectacular as a federal prosecutor where he was responsible for the conviction of going on two hundred corrupt New Jersey politicians (are there any other type?). He got in trouble once he made the bad choice to become the top executive over the remaining corrupt politicians and then just fell apart and screwed up on a daily basis. A real shame, for in the beginning he did in fact shine. New Jersey, the Soprano state – Shut Up & Pay!
Ha!
Unfortunately, the cartels network in the US puts a Mall Of the Wall in each metro area in the US. Your Big Box idea at the border could be the Outlet mall for all the competing cartels. 20% off everything in the store.
We could have trap door sales too. People rushing for the open doors would fall in and slide all the way back over the border. Perhaps if they were chipped, they could be sorted and slipped to their respective shit hole counties.
Chris got drunk the other night on Colbert and trashed Trump. Remember big Red during the Ebola scare? She was outraged that she was being quarantined – it was getting in the way of her victory lap after helping little Black kids in Africa. Chris was outraged at her outrage: She’s getting food from some of the best restaurants in NY. She’s doing fine. A man whose heart is firmly in his stomach. That’s a guy we can trust until he gets hungry.
Lol – who is big Red?
This was this big, brazen Woman with big Red Hair from Maine. Forget her name. Maybe someone will know. An incredible bitch, so much so that it was hilarious. And her outrageous behavior made Christie spill his guts about what he valued most, namely food.
I found her! Kaci Hickox. I forgot about all of that. She was mad that she was quarantined and sued Christie. She felt entitled to potentially expose people to hemorrhagic fever. A true sweetheart.
That rings a bell.
Would the mall have a makeup counter or counters? Also a jewelry shop and some boutiques would be nice. I mean, not everything is about sex and drugs.
Mont:
re dehumanization.
I suppose it depends on how you define it. Some words have straight forward meanings, defined by everyday usage, especially those simple and direct words of one or two syllables and of Germanic derivation.
But those eight cylinder terms of Latin or Greek origin a lot of times are a whole lot muddier. ie dehumanization.
For example, what do we make of it when main-stream writers on economic matters talk about communities ruined by off-shoring as being “left-behind”? Or when they say that the incomes of now unemployed or marginally employed former industrial workers “stagnated”?
What I’m saying is that there’s a whole lot of deliberate minimization going on here of the harm done to huge numbers of Americans. Can you call it de-humanization? The dictionary definition sez it’s the process of depriving a person or persons of positive human qualities.
Is it dehumanization to insist that no harm was done, or that the harm was minimal, or that the discontent felt by all those people is merely a matter of perception or more accurately, MIS-perception, or in other words that there’s no reality to their beefs? So what’s being done when the suffering of people is minimized? Or outright DENIED?
OK, so let’s say it’s not de-humanization. Let’s say it’s just minimization or denial for the purpose of exculpating (yeah, I know, damn that Latin). Is the result any better? It’s tantamount to saying that harm done to some people doesn’t matter.
OK, this is a long way of saying that I agree entirely with you, it’s dehumanization, no matter how they might try to twist around meanings.
And the de-humanization of wide tracts of the populace, your own country-men no less, is grotesque.
But I think it’s not just from neglect, and abandonment, though there is a lot of that, it’s from a deliberate decades-long policy with full foreknowledge of what was being done, and for whose benefit and to whose detriment. And all the while people were being fed a diet of lies about the benefits and prosperity that would accrue. Utterly grotesque.
What race are you? The Romans and the Greeks opined about Blacks btw – you won’t like what they have to say. They were Clansmen.
It seems to me that the ult-Left is making a big power grab attempt now is various forms. Triggered by the mid-terms, maybe? The border impasse, abortion savagery, sanctuary status to name three.
The horror show of a Left wing takeover has started?
OK, so this is to pull some noses, yeah, trolling I suppose. Can’t resist it especially as the topic is near and dear to some hearts – miscegenation – gasp.
Katelyn Ohashi of German and Japanese descent and her gymnastic routine. Tell me you’ve ever seen anything quite like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srd4ntRSUVM
So the hook is what, that she majors in gender studies? So after a possibly auspicious career as an Olympic gymnast she will go into Olympic broadcasting and hawking products on television commercials like the others? What’s the catch? And BTW, it’s not like I have anything against professional entertainers, it’s just not my thing and I am curious what kind of professional career an education in gender studies gets a person.
The hook? Beats me. The point of it? Maybe just to irritate. OK, well, if the point of racists is all about biological inferiority- superiority, this is one case at least where inferiority is nowhere in evidence, at least physically. Maybe the other case of miscegenation that ought to be cited is that wee little skate champ, Alyssa Liu, appearing to be of part Chinese, part Caucasian parentage. Not much inferiority there either. As for gender studies, I think it was Q’s daughter that has a degree in it. Maybe ask him but I seem to recall that she parlayed it into a decent job. But yeah, I’m as mystified as anybody as to why anyone would waste many thousands over such a degree. A big risk i would think.
I’d like to see the SJW’s jump on this one and claim White Privilege or Partial White Privilege, if they starting counting partial percentages yet. As far as gymnastics go, I do not know how much they have improved the safety of the training but I recall a snippet on the sport back when Nadia Comanche was in the Olympics that claimed horrible statics for success and huge numbers of debilitating injuries from practice mishaps. Tough way to make a living if you ask me.
And of course Blacks of West African descent can’t run faster than all other peoples. To believe that is just “racism”.
And that the very power of their bodies often leads them to decay faster via high blood pressure, heart disease, etc. The healthiest people on Earth are the relatively weak East Asians. Outwardly weak, inwardly strong. Yin over Yang as opposed to Yang over Yin.
Paradoxically (perhaps and perhaps not – there is a lot of diversity in Africa) some of the longest living individuals are often Black.
Admit it, you want to boff Katelyn. And Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.
Cortez is pretty hot. Some of my brothers in Vanaheim protect themselves by pretending only White women are attractive. I don’t see any need for that. We must abstain as a matter of Will. But if that’s what they need to do, so be it.
What are you? That you aren’t White explains much about your indifference to the plight of the White Man and his Civilization. Much.
The Crisis of Diarchy in the United States. Part 2.
In the previous post, I painted the mystical reflection of the funeral of George Bush Sr. falling on the fight for the US Department of Justice, in the hope that this would not only create the right context for the events that I will write in this post purely from a material and financial point of view, but also let you understand that the so-called repentance of George Bush Sr. is a very serious event that changed the balance of power in the world perhaps by several centuries.
Something similar happened with Peter the Great on the night of July 21-22, 1711, when he was in a completely hopeless situation not only for himself, but for the state he led, along with Theophan Prokopovich awaited Shafirov’s return from the Turkish camp.
And the direct result of this night was not only the miraculous salvation of Russia, but also the Church Reform of Peter the Great and the Synodal period in the Russian Church, which at the very least extinguished the Auto-da-fé bonfires that began to fester in Russia from the “light hand” of Joseph Volotsky.
I hope that this analogy will at least to some extent answer the question of what exactly George Bush Sr. repented in my opinion, and in this connection I will only note that the accuracy with which George Bush Sr. foresaw the circumstances of his funeral, shocked not only me, but also William Barr, who with God’s help in a week would become the US Attorney General and require Special Prosecutor Muller to report on the progress of the investigation of alleged cooperation in 2016 of Donald Trump’s election campaign with some Russian hackers, allegedly hacking Podesta’s server – the head of the Hillary Clinton election campaign, – and obtaining information about her forgery of the Democratic primaries.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/senate-panel-postpones-william-barrs-confirmation-vote-amid-democrats-concerns/2019/01/29/28d201ea-23d3-11e9-90cd-dedb0c92dc17_story.html?utm_term=.559852304201
I even admit that voting in the full Senate will not take place in a week, but in two weeks, but no later, since Barr will need another week after this vote in order to deal with Mueller before the start of the new battle of Donald Trump with Nancy Pelosi for the Great American Wall on the border with Mexico.
The matter of fact is that Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton, having started this battle, forgot that, according to the law, if a civil servant misses two checks without receiving a salary for 30 days, he is considered to be dismissed.
This law is worthy of the story with the Logan’s law of 1789, which was secretly activated and aggravated in 1994, which in fact allowed Hillary Clinton to take in 2017 not only national security adviser Michael Flynn by the balls, but also the Institution of Presidency, and Donald Trump, winning the elections in 2016, almost 2 years ruled the country without having his own team, surrounded by advisers who his enemies imposed on him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act
It is surprising that in spite of this, he managed to achieve such significant success, but no less significant part of his failed decisions was dictated by the threat of impeachment and arrest, including the bombings of Syria and the Venezuelan adventure, of which we are now witnesses.
Only if the bombing of Syria looked at least outwardly presidential, the Venezuelan adventure frankly was launched by Vice President Pence and old Clintonoid Marc Rubio, which actually made it possible to track a split in the Deep State back to Prescott Bush.
And looking ahead, I can now confidently say that it was not the Black World Project that split, but the Deep State and the Bush clan that made the Big Bargain possible and George Bush Sr. managed to wrest the control from such figures of the Black World Project as Dick Cheney and Hillary Clinton over the majority of the Republican Party and the Deep State.
But in accordance with the table of contents I will write about this in another post, and in this I want to note that the arrest of Senator Arashukov and the gold of Venezuela in Moscow are just ripples on the surface of the sea, in the depth of which megalodons are fighting with plesiosaurs, and now there is a lull in this fight that does not prevent ripples on the surface of splashing with a vengeance, but allows me to write these posts.
This lull came because of the Clintonoids awareness of their limited capabilities and the resulting dual power, and this in turn requires a significant restructuring and a transition to strategic defense in connection with the establishment of control of the Bush and Trump union over a significant part of the Deep State in addition to official state control.
And they realized this after environmental officials, having received their first unemployment benefit, returned to work after a shutdown was over and found that they had to write a new application applying for a job.
And the Clintonoids in the agencies of the Department of Justice suddenly realized that the law on unemployment benefits also applies to them.
It is not yet known whether they were also forced to write an application for a job – it is quite possible that the acting Attorney General Whitaker decided not to tease the geese, and to drive the rats into the corner.
But the fact that their new job application in six weeks would be signed by the newly appointed Attorney General in the George Bush elder administration William Barr, they understood that Hillary Clinton, cursing in 2016, that if Trump wins, they will all hang, was not so far from the truth.
It piles on this week. Words on words on words. 23 swat ops means 23 troll ops, all here and accounted for. Figures, and is no surprise. The deep state keeps the deep distractions coming and it’s game on. Talk about Trump Jr.s blocked calls as if it was they are as important as having clipped fingernails fills news. CNN actually pollutes our heads with this vile disgusting trivia. Such a poor business decision has to result from ‘deep’ prodding’ because brainpower can’t possibly be deciding it. That’s the top end. Where is the bottom end? You can see some of it right here.
Ask yourself, could some of these seriously articulate word-hounds really be so in need of a life? This dog might be a real person based on a comment pattern that fits real life, but some posters here have been known to post for days without a break. How is that possible?
Democracy in action? I think not.
Have you ever thought it’s because people have access to the internet and their devices every day? We do live in 2019.
And you are in Disneyland. People have been on the net decades now so your argument is………..:…empty. So empty one could wonder why you make it but people do crazy things. Most relatable is one’s lying eyes but you perhaps and many others certainly prefer to keep their eyes closed. Anything more than the softest starlight is too much for them. Anything else is blindingly offensive.
I don’t prefer to keep my eyes closed. I want to know what’s going on around me. My comment was specifically in response to your sentence about how it is even possible that posters here post for days without a break. And I am saying that it’s very possible and is not challenging to do or anything. I don’t get a lot of opportunities anymore to get out, go out whatever so this is kinda like a virtual hangout for me. And sometimes I like the serious discussions and other times I like to just be goofy and have a little fun. For me personally that is what it is. I know I have a tendency to post a lot because I like to talk a lot and occasionally people here will say shut the f*ck up literally or in a roundabout way. But I am not in Disneyland.
Devices, like the one I’m on now?
Like this one with a modern browser which can be completely hijacked by an E-4 behind a computer terminal at Ft. Mead with a javascript program which takes over control of My DOM and then takes full control of my internet experience? The vertical, the horizontal and anything else. Feeding any misinformation the big budget allows?
Could not do that last century you are right.
Way I’d write it is to have it dissolve itself if it lost the mother ship a handshake. No way anybody would get caught. But if proof were had.
Good morning Mr Phelps.
Then having a device I can send an EMAIL about the proof but the nail which sticks up is watched before it gets pounded down. Such EMAILS are returned in triplicate and scrambled up, a true American Pie! And once it happens it is likely to happen again. Technology has improved since my ‘tube’ embed. Now virtual servers can do the work and poof they are gone. Better than smoke. No stone cold counter story can ever leak through. This ‘speculation’ by a mad dog is as good as it gets.
Is Linux really as beautiful as they say? Or is that just hype? They speak of a “seed”….
All of that went completely over my head. I can’t speak Greek :-). You know SO MUCH more about this stuff than I do. But I can see that you are speculating that they are not only spying on us but shaping/providing the content we access online to fit their narratives and make us “think correctly”. That much I got. And I don’t see why they aren’t doing that and probably much worse.
Some of that shaping/providing went on on behalf of the Leave vote during the Brexit campaign too. Russian bots, Cambridge Analytica for the algorithms, dark money from dark sources.
Very few people know and even fewer people are getting worked up about it. Unfortunately. But I’m fine with not letting that affect the outcome. If people are dim enough to let their reading of dodgy sources affect their vote, they kind of deserve what they get.
Well, Little Jane got a break, since Jim kicked her out.
At any rate, better words … than blood and bullets.
Brh
Something tells me some people get bit too paranoid. But hey, what does a dumb blond ditz know lol.
Certainly not what someone else has experienced in their life. Sort of like a guy asking a dumb blond what’s it like to be raped.
Wow :-O well I am listening.
But K-Dog, according to the NY Daily News, the Average American watches 5 hours of TV a day:
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/average-american-watches-5-hours-tv-day-article-1.1711954
Those of us that do not have television service have 5 hours a day open to be here. I do my bills online, communicate with my Township people and friends with emails and online, and spent a few hours today doing my taxes on the computer. It is very quick and easy to pop in here off and on in between and keep up the conversations. Surely it beast hanging out in a bar talking trash don’t you think?
I agree with you Walter. I would rather be a blogfly than a barfly.
I’m lovin’ what this blog has become! (Ooo, it’s just like Mickey-Dee’s.)
It’s all about: Help gawd eradicate all the brown people and save all the palefaces. It’s what “he” really wants, after all. Oh, and don’t forget to beat the wimmenz hard enough so that they come to their senses/proper emotions and stop messing about with anything but cooking, kids and sex-on-demand.
Then there’s the embarrassingly self-referential FoolontheHill, connecting gawd with some strange Bush vs. Clinton wind-breaking as far back as “The Creation” and Duh Deb’bil.
“Clusterfuck Nation” [tm JHK] was a fine moniker, but I don’t think it covers the howling lunacy that this space has become; it needs something with a bit more panache that might evoke the vision of an insane asylum with the inmates running the institution.
One thing I’m happy to see is that many (perhaps most?) of the comments parallel the devolution of American “thought”. This is instructive if one is to attempt some preparation for the fear and loathing sure to come. …It’s a wondrous thing to behold! Carry on.
Hold on for awhile, Oz. Don’t get discouraged.
It promises to be an eventful year; JHK will have interesting things to say about it and this comments section, spinning at 10,000 rpm, will get feverish and white hot and eventually explode, disintegrating into a million words flying everywhere.
Keep your head down.
Brh
Thanks, M.
Discouragement not noted… yet. 😉
And, no worries, head down.
Thanks for your comment further up. I wish I could figure out who’s real and who’s not, but some of the views I encounter on here are unheard of in my neck of the woods so how would I know who’s trolling and who’s just lost their way looking for the 1940s? Or 1840s?
Anyway, keep your comments coming – they pepper some much-needed er… balance, or normality, or something around the place (sometimes just fun).
And be grateful I can’t even bear to discuss Brexit any more. Six weeks to go and people are stockpiling everything from beans to wild optimism. And wondering how the opposition is so hopeless it hasn’t a hope of replacing even a government that’s a laughing stock to the entire world.
They still seem to appear somehow less evil than your lot, but so much more insanely incompetent.
sorry that was aimed at Ozone but I accidentally chopped off your name!
Green Alba, what puzzles me about Brexit is … GB has only been part of it for about 20 years, which means you were not in the EU for thousands of years. You had your ups and downs but its been a pretty glorious history. Also England has been in various trading compacts thru out the centuries — the Hanseatic League, the Muscovy Adventurers, the East India Company, trade agreements in the Caribbean and NAmerica; they all eventually ran their course and came to and end. Life went on. What’s different about the EU? Maybe the EU is a stupid Idea and should go toes up.
Brh
Don’t worry about who is real and who’s not. You do that you play their game. Take a wider view of the phenomena and you should! GCHQ plays in this game big time. They taught our spooks gang-stalking after all! There is a Brit or two in the I’ll say, stratosphere. There is money in National Security. If the movie The Graduate were remade it would not be ‘plastics’ it would be going after a slice of the Homeland Security pie.
brh
You’re making me do it 🙂 Just as well it’s at the end of a dying thread because it’s a ‘Finca’.
Well first of all we’ve been in the Common Market since 1975 (I voted ‘yes’, as did most people). And while US wages have stagnated over the last 30-40 years, real incomes in the UK have risen dramatically. Until the more recent Uberisation of the job market, which the EU, paradoxically, are more attached to mitigating than the UK.
And because of my age and my long memory, I’m very attached to Churchill’s vision of an institutionally cooperative Europe that would end an age of nationalist warmongering. Which it has, thus far.
But yes, the CM, then the EC morphed as they turned into the EU and yes it could do with some serious reforming – I’ve never said otherwise. And I don’t like drunken, junketing Juncker any more than anyone else.
But…The first and major thing that’s different about it is that it’s on our doorstep. 60% of our exports go to the EU. Most of our food imports come from the EU. And as I’ve explained before, I buy into the proposition that the days of mass trade with the other side of the world are numbered. So why would I want to buy frozen lamb from New Zealand? For example. (I get that wine will be unaffordable for the likes of me in the long term – wine? haha, I’ll be happy if water comes out of the tap – but still – I buy French when I get the choice, even though it’s marginally more expensive, to avoid the freighting from NZ or Chile.
I could give you lots of examples but Welsh (and other) lamb is an obvious one. Scotland and NI voted to stay in, England and Wales voted to leave. Polls suggest England (which is utterly split, of course) overall still wants to leave but Wales has shifted and is suffering from ‘Regrexit’.
And no wonder. Wales, as one of the UK’s poorer regions, benefited from a lot of help from the EU Regional Fund. It also has a major sheep farming sector (and the very last – struggling – steel plant in the UK). But raising lamb doesn’t make you rich – the average sheep farmer (a lot of them are hill farmers in places where you couldn’t do anything else with the land) earns less than £20K/year. And Brexit is likely to ruin them, because the WTA tariffs on lamb are huge and they currently send about 97% of their exports to the EU. And in the domestic market, they’ll be at the mercy of cheap imports. As will be all our farmers, because standards are higher in the EU/UK than in most other places, including the US (animal welfare, hygiene, use of antibiotics, growth hormones etc. etc.). And our farmers are proud of their product and attached to the principle of producing high-quality food. And let’s not forget our producers of most things are at a disadvantage against yours because yours pay half as much for petrol and diesel.
None of these things got much of a mention in the referendum debates, naturally (cost of fuel compared to the US got exactly none) – as for the long-term limits on cheap energy, don’t make me laugh.
Now the Brexit leaders, especially the investment banker types, are fine with all this because cheap food means you can get away with a lower wage economy – and they naturally don’t eat the cheap food themselves, so what’s not to like? ‘Let them eat chlorinated chicken’. And they will. Because the struggling ones are going to be poorer and the poor are going to be even poorer still.
Then there’s the JIT side of things. Now I know that a lot of industries aren’t going to exist in a few decades (possibly/probably) but for now they’re feeding families and I’d like to see those families fed for as long as possible, so let’s look at the Nissan factory in Sunderland (I’ve seen it – it’s huge) and the Airbus factory, wherever it is. Nissan are here because of seamless trade with the EU which enables their JIT manufacturing model. Parts are made and assembled here and there over the EU area. Why would Nissan stay unless we subsidise them heavily to do so? And we can’t subsidise everyone. And there’s precious little else to occupy people in Sunderland (there’s a huge north-south wealth divide in England – the south is the investment magnet).
I’m reminded of Airbus (the wings are made in the UK) because people were being interviewed on TV a few days ago who worked there. Again it will shut up shop if seamless EU trade stops. These are highly skilled workers. One guy said his son worked there but he’d voted leave. The reporter was gobsmacked but the guy said ‘I didn’t vote for him, I voted for me’. At which point I was gobsmacked, because I have kids and I wouldn’t stab them in the back.
The Brexit vote included a whole lot of old people who are either already dead now or will be a lot sooner than the young people who overwhelmingly voted to stay in. Tough shit, kids, your parents – and especially grandparents – didn’t give a toss.
And then there’s the argument that the EU Commission is unelected (the EU Parliament is elected, by the likes of me). Well, unelected House of Lords, anyone? The cognitive dissonance is breathtaking.
And then the argument that it’s about globalism versus nationalism. Now for starters the majority of newspapers in the UK (globalists, I hear you say?) were rabid Brexit promoters, so I don’t know how that pans out. But they’ve been badmouthing the EU for 40 years, so the vote shouldn’t really surprise anyone. They never bothered to point out that most of people’s gripes were the fault of Westminster and not Brussels, so it will be interesting to see who gets the blame for pretty much everything after March.
And finally, immigration. Yes, I entirely understand the arguments, but as I’ve mentioned on multiple occasions (a) non-EU immigration has always been greater than EU immigration, and UK governments had 100% control over the former, (b)they had more control of EU immigration than they used (other countries did), and (c) as I predicted two years ago, now that EU immigration is drying up, non-EU immigration is rising. That’s not quite what people thought they were voting for but it’s what they’re going to get, all those who insist they knew exactly what Brexit meant. Most people claim they didn’t vote for racist reasons and I accept that. But for the ones who did – and there were a fair number – I hope they enjoy having an Indian doctor instead of a German one. Ha. Ha. Ha. Post-Brexit Britain will be as globalist as it gets. Singapore-on-Thames if the Rees-Moggs get their way. And the north of England will wonder what hit it.
PS trade deals take years, sometimes more than a decade, to work out. A whole lot of businesses will hit the skids before that happens and a whole lot of mortgaged homes will go with them.
But if I’m wrong that will be wonderful.
Thanks, K-Dog. I take it ‘gang-stalking’ is what happened to you.
I had to look up the ‘plastics’ reference – it’s been a long time!
WTO, not WTA…
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/272650/exterminating-whitey-mark-tapson
They’re a comin’ for us all, bruder. Even confused guys like you and BRH (who think Hitler took orders from the Mufti, lol) are gonna find yourselves on the same side as me. If you don’t bayonet me in the back I won’t bayonet you. No need for uniforms neither, we’re “all set” (Is this said outside New England? Or even Boston?)
I’m glad you laugh. Laff while you can monkey boy(my tone is darkening here, but you started it), you will not laff long. As Lao Tzu said, If they did not laugh, it would not be the Tao.
Well, they probably won’t be able to find Oz, hidden away in the Berkshire Hills as he is. They shouldn’t have much trouble finding me tho.
Brh
” cooking, kids and sex-on-demand”
Ozone…But, But the Bible says they gotta do it….
Well, EF, at least they’re not ‘cooking kids’. The daddy of them all was told to slit his son’s throat to show how devoted he was, so one should be grateful for small mercies.
Gosh Ozone, I heart your posts ;-)! The feelings they invoke are unexplainable.
I ‘ve got a feeling Little Jane will be sneaking back in a week or two from now — under a different name — maybe wearing Groucho Marx glasses, nose and mustache, hoping Jim doesn’t notice.
Brh
Well Brh, Jane had at least five different aliases going at one point so I think your guess is very educated.