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An almighty bafflement befogs the nation as the first full business week of 2020 commences and events pile up like smashed vehicles on a weather-blinded highway. Before we even smoked that Iranian bird on the Baghdad airport tarmac, something ominous was tingling away in the financial markets, in fact, has been since way back in September. Perhaps one-in-100,000 Americans has the dimmest clue as to what the repo mechanism stands for in banking circles, but it has been flashing red for months, with klaxons blaring for those who maybe missed the red flashes.

The repo market represents trillions of dollars in overnight lending in which bonds (or other “assets”) are used as collateral for ultra-short-term loans between large banks. Theoretically, this flow of supposedly secured lending acts as mere background lubricant for the engine of finance, like the motor oil circulating in your Ford F-150. You don’t notice it until it’s not there, and then all of a sudden you’re throwing rods and sucking valves, and the darn vehicle is a smoldering goner in the breakdown lane.

The strange action on the repo scene suggests that some big banks are in big trouble, and probably because the “innovative investments” they’ve engineered — as a substitute for the true purposes of capital, such as enabling production of real goods at a profit — are proving once again to be little more than swindles and frauds, like last time. Things like interest rate swaps and credit default “insurance.” Have your eyes glazed over yet? The bottom line is an impressive potential for losses to go critical, multiply daisy-chain style, cascade wildly, and then start wrecking real things — like the supply lines to your supermarket.

When you cut through all the esoteric crap, what’s likely behind all that is the dynamic of a failing affordable global energy supply. Yes, really. It’s not working to run the global economy anymore, so we resort to swindles and frauds instead. That must seem crazy to Americans especially, who look at our all-time record oil production of nearly 13 million barrels-a-day now and behold the blue sky of “energy independence” as far as the eye can see. The trouble is, it’s a hologram of a mirage of a Ponzi scheme. Suffice it to say that shale oil just doesn’t make any money and all the other regular oil around the world is harder and harder to get to. A lot of that other oil is in the Middle East.

So, a lot depends on what happens in the Middle East, easily the most politically mixed-up and confused region in the world — though central Africa may have it beat for sheer horrifying chaos. In general, we tolerate all that confusion as long as the oil keeps flowing to world markets, enabling the flows of everything else. But any hint of an interruption sends humanity and all its signaling systems — such as financial markets — into a psychotic fugue. Which is what we’re approaching now.

The financial markets know that a lot less new investment will flow into shale oil from now on, since it was a lousy investment the past ten years, despite all the admirable techno-virtuosity behind it, and that before long the mighty shale oil bell curve will turn down, and everything economic with it. Folks who make foreign policy and military plans may sense this too, perhaps dimly. But then they confront the additional mystifying calculus of all those moiling parties in the Middle East jockeying for position and advantage as the oil-hungry big dogs of the world desperately try to figure how to keep those oil flows going their way.

Eventually — and sooner rather than later — the mighty flows of everything in the global economy have to neck down, and the process will probably consist of sharp political and economic shocks rather than simple deceleration. Just such a shock was the assassination of General Qassim Suleimani. His multifarious activities all around the Middle East were in themselves a symptom of the instability dogging Iran as its economy wobbles. Much of that is due to the squeeze that the USA put on Iran in the way of trade sanctions and currency movements. And much of that stems from events over forty years ago when the mullahs ran the shah out of town and took the American embassy staff hostage for well over a year. The enmity on both sides runs wide and deep.

Iran’s neighbor, Iraq, is quite a prize oil-wise, and Iran has made significant inroads attempting to gain control of that broken country, even while the USA retains its garrisons there. The region of Iraq closest to Iran, Basra, is overwhelmingly Shia, like Iran, and produces a lot of Iraq’s oil. Baghdad is not so hot to give it up. Remember, the two countries slugged it out through the entire 1980s. About a quarter-million people died in that war. It is surely a high priority for the USA to not let that Iraqi oil slip into Iran’s hands. It’s a zero-sum game, of course, because even Iraq’s copious oil reserves will not save the global economy’s ass, let alone Iran’s economy.

Nobody knows what happens next. The Iranians are pissed off to beat the band. They’ve pulled many a prank the past couple of years, like attacking a major Saudi Arabian oil terminal, capturing American sailors, shooting down American drones, seizing tankers in the Persian Gulf and suchlike capers — all with no response from their foes, including us, until last week. And, of course, there is the question of all the other monkey business they’ve engaged in around Syria, Lebanon and even faraway Libya, which is where General Suleimani came in. Serious people wonder: is Iran crazy enough now to try to shut down the Straits of Hormuz? Or attack the Ras Tanura complex?

For the moment, impeachment is on the back burner. We’re in for a double-feature this first month of the rollicking 20s: financial carnage and something that looks like war. It will make for quite the attitude-adjustment here.


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  1. Brabantian January 6, 2020 at 10:05 am #

    In the past six decades since JFK, US presidents have been ‘hit’ at a rate of 45% – two with bullets (Kennedy, Reagan), three with impeachments (Nixon, Clinton, Trump)

    US Presidents seem to be under menace, with little real ‘freedom to act’, given how real the ‘deep state’ seems to be

    The impeachment of Bill Clinton over trivial shenanigans with an intern, was said to be a ruse to force him to bomb Serbia … Clinton was ‘acquitted’ and he started bombing

    Was Trump ‘impeached’ to get him to go to war?

    Media are saying that Trump shocked his aides by going for the ‘most extreme’ option offered to him, the Suleimani assassination

    Is Trump on purpose choosing the most extreme type of actions, as the only way he can lash out against the Deep State that perhaps holds him captive?

    Trump perhaps now deciding that, the best thing he can do, given the trap he is in, is swing that wrecking ball so hard, he will do maximum damage to the US war complex machine and its constantly-involved Israeli ally … bring it all down, make it crash … ‘draining the swamp’ by helping the deep state over-reach itself into oblivion

    • FallenHero January 6, 2020 at 10:19 am #

      Heres to hoping silver goes parabolic during all of this instead of being suppressed by ‘paper silver’. Supposedly silver is to be around 1000$/oz and gold over 10k when you factor in inflation and what it was back in 1913.

      • malthuss January 6, 2020 at 10:20 am #

        as long as bread is ‘only’ $10 a loaf, let gold sell for a million dollars an ounce.

        • malthuss January 6, 2020 at 10:28 am #

          PS–my food bill is $100 a week, no eating out.
          and that doesnt include water and supplements.

          • elysianfield January 6, 2020 at 1:19 pm #

            Malthuss,
            Well, you have to shop smarter, not harder. You got a Wally World near you? Several days ago ours was blowing off “seasonal” candy…75% off.

            Candy kisses…74 cents a bag.

            Chocolate covered cherries (10 per box) 44 cents a box

            Tootsie roll banks…25 cents a box.

            Party like it is 1950….

          • DrTomSchmidt January 6, 2020 at 2:21 pm #

            My guess is, you’re buying food, not feed. Feed is cheap and getting cheaper. Food, not so much.

          • elysianfield January 6, 2020 at 2:23 pm #

            “and that doesnt include water”

            Malthuss,
            water…WATER? You buy water? Does your kitchen sink not work? Have you not a garden hose?

            In my 73 years, I have NEVER bought a bottle of water.

            Perhaps you are a better “consumer” than I…I can accept that. Perhaps you are more wealthy than I…I can accept that.

            Perhaps you believe what they tell you on the Tee Vee… I…I….

          • hmuller January 6, 2020 at 4:15 pm #

            Elysian, are you being facetious? I can’t imagine you really advocating the all-candy diet on the choo-choo train to Diabetes-ville.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 5:43 pm #

            You can live and live well on rice and beans. Together, they make a complete protein. Add a few veggies and spices. Good eatin’.

          • hmuller January 6, 2020 at 6:08 pm #

            Throw in some kimchee and you’ve got the North Korean diet. It must work. There’s only one fat guy in the country.

          • elysianfield January 6, 2020 at 6:54 pm #

            hmuller,
            No, I am not being clever. I do not eat a lot of the crap (candy), but it might be considered comfort food in times of want. Rice and Beans? I eat lots of rice and beans, and probably have a sufficient amount to still be eating it at the end of Trump’s second term.

            Bottled water? Serious as cancer on that issue.

          • elysianfield January 6, 2020 at 6:58 pm #

            hmuller,
            Forgot to mention the Kimchee. Bought two cases of Kimchee recently that appeared at the local Grocery outlet…99 cents per 12 ounce jar.

            Regarding candy…they put it in C-Rats and MRE’s, as I recall.

        • Daddyotis January 6, 2020 at 12:07 pm #

          You could bake your own bread, Malthuss. That might bring your food bill down a bit. Growing part of your own food can help as well.

          • elysianfield January 6, 2020 at 2:26 pm #

            Daddy,
            I make my own flatbread every morning…using water from the tap.

            Goes well with my breakfast Hummus, also homemade. (If it was good enough for OBL, it is good enough for me….)

    • Nightowl January 6, 2020 at 11:04 am #

      “Media are saying that Trump shocked his aides by going for the ‘most extreme’ option offered to him, the Suleimani assassination”

      You believe this? Aside from the MSM’s distasterous track record where the truth is concerned, the emotional anchor words in this sentence gives the lie away.

      I weep for the future of this country.

      • K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 11:34 am #

        It should not be any surprise. He tweeted that Obama would do the same thing to get elected a decade ago. There is no reason to play Trump speeches backwards to look for any hidden meanings. The man is not deep at all. He really deserves not to be called a man. He has no mature qualities. He is an overgrown pussy of a teen bully who would run from a real fight. Little men like him love to cold cock people and two hellfire missiles is as cold a cock as you can get. I have the tweet in my right sidebar. Click Here to see it. Enjoy the new Steve Cutts video while you are there.

        • Daddyotis January 6, 2020 at 12:09 pm #

          3 sentences…..then full-on TDS.

          Nothing if not consistent.

          • K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 12:33 pm #

            Three weeks ago I was a reluctant supporter because the impeachment thing over his presidential phone call was bullshit. A cheap shot without dignity, like something Trump himself would do. I’m not consistent and my bitches are my own.

            Trump Quotes:

            “I’ve always thought about the issue of nuclear war; it’s a very important element in my thought process. It’s the ultimate, the ultimate catastrophe, the biggest problem this world has, and nobody’s focusing on the nuts and bolts of it. It’s a little like sickness. People don’t believe they’re going to get sick until they do. Nobody wants to talk about it. I believe the greatest of all stupidities is people’s believing it will never happen, because everybody knows how destructive it will be, so nobody uses weapons. What bullshit.” — Playboy, 1990

            “Bing bing, bong bong, bing bing bing” — “Lincoln Day” speech on political lobbying, 2015

            BOOM

          • K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 12:38 pm #

            I’ve always thought about the issue of nuclear war; it’s a very important element in my thought process.

          • K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 12:39 pm #

            That was worth repeating.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 1:17 pm #

            General Patraeus said that Suleimani was more important to the Shia than Bin Ladin was to radical Sunnism. Trump’s “I did it not to start a war but to prevent one” is utter bullshit.

            How would we feel if they assassinated Trump? Or John F Kennedy? Or Obama?

          • elysianfield January 6, 2020 at 1:22 pm #

            “I’ve always thought about the issue of nuclear war; it’s a very important element in my thought process.”

            Dog,
            Yeah? Well, I’ve always thought about Salma Hayek..it is a very important element in MY thought process….

          • K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 9:43 pm #

            And given the chance you would press Salma’s button!

        • JackStraw January 6, 2020 at 1:24 pm #

          Good God, Dude. You really need to retreat to your safespace and simply try and grow a pair. I, along with most on here, are sick and tired of your endless childlike whining, moronic reasoning, and public display of TDS.

          Every week, you put up about 25 posts containing nothing more than drivel and insipid nonsense. You’re clogging up the works for people that like to read intelligent discourse.

          Seriously, get a fucking life and move on from here.

          • K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 9:03 pm #

            Making up TDS for humor is one thing. Actually believing it could be a disorder is another thing entirely. Compound such mad reification in praise of a murderer who kills just because he can shows you are beyond help.

            Show me some intelligent discourse. I dare you. Get to it. I’m waiting.

            Obviously it is you who needs a pair Mr. Anonymous.

          • K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 9:07 pm #

            But before we move on. Lets review:

            Every week, you put up about 25 posts containing nothing more than drivel and insipid nonsense.

            In response to:

            He tweeted that Obama would do the same thing to get elected a decade ago.

            The tweet is posted on my website. It is a historical indication of Trumps mental state and it is accurate. As far from insipid nonsense as you can get.

        • sprawlcapital January 6, 2020 at 1:28 pm #

          KD

          When I do the math on the annual change in CO2 concentration, I get +2.25%, not +0.55%. Am i missing something?

          Lots of good reading on your blog. In fact, it’s almost overwhelming to this old pup.

          • K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 8:53 pm #

            This is the line of code that calculates the monthly change. I get the numbers from Hawaii and then plug them in. The change gets calculated from the plugged in numbers when my page loads. I am still waiting for December numbers.

            $percentChange = 100* ( ($currentPPM – $previousPPM ) / $previousPPM);

            The $ signs mark variables in the PHP language, to make it less confusing:

            percent change =

            100 x ( (currentPPM – previousPPM ) / previousPPM )

            In words this is the change divided by the original concentration times 100 for %. I think I did it right.

            Thank god it is not increasing at 2.25% a year. If it was Greta would not live to see 20. Looks to me you did not divide by the original concentration so you got a number four times as bad as it is.

          • sprawlcapital January 7, 2020 at 1:28 pm #

            Very good, K-dog. Now I see my error.

    • robert magill January 6, 2020 at 12:29 pm #

      Trump is doing what he can to stir up the ME and keep the price of crude high. Look for $80 a barrel soon. Prop up oil, props up Market.
      Big numbers in Wall St., re-election.

      • elysianfield January 6, 2020 at 2:11 pm #

        Robert,
        You do know that when oil hits $80 per, sales decline dramatically…cashflow slows. I think, perhaps, that they want a steady, survivable market, and paid for in US dollars.

        Gas prices increase,
        Gas buyers vote with their feet,
        Major Oil is sad….

        • robert magill January 6, 2020 at 2:23 pm #

          That’s all very true, elysianfield, but short term it will spike the Market to perhaps 30K and Trump will coast to victory. We’ll pick up the pieces of what left of the economy with a shovel.

          • elysianfield January 6, 2020 at 2:29 pm #

            Maybe. It is ALWAYS the economy, stupid…as did Opine Horndog Bill.

            …Don’t know if Trump really needs the pyrrhic “boost”, however. The Dem’s seem to be self destructive.

      • DrTomSchmidt January 6, 2020 at 2:26 pm #

        Trump’s voters don’t own stocks. The logic makes no sense. Not that he himself doesn’t cite it.

        • elysianfield January 6, 2020 at 2:32 pm #

          “Trump’s voters don’t own stocks.”

          Dr. Tom,
          This may be mostly true. However, you might also suggest that the average Trump voter does not understand the disconnect between the stock market and the economy….

          • elysianfield January 7, 2020 at 6:07 pm #

            benr,
            Both you and Dr. Tom are correct in respect to the Great Unwashed in the country. You are correct in that 401k’s will be sometimes invested in stock, Dr. Tom is correct in that the Unwashed do not pick the stock, buy the stock or negotiate the stock otherwise…a money manager does that….and if the Unwashed is nowhere close to retirement, there would probably be no cognizance of HOW or WHERE the money is parked.

            …hence the “mostly true” qualifier….

        • benr January 6, 2020 at 5:36 pm #

          Are you kidding me?
          Most Trump voters actually work and have 401k’s with out a doubt they own stocks!

          • DrTomSchmidt January 6, 2020 at 10:29 pm #

            The median retirement account balance in the USA a few years back was $5000. Basically, half of Americans have NO stake via retirement I the stock market.

            The people who put Trump into the White House were white working class voters, who live by labor not capital. Those people are not benefitted, and are most likely harmed, by asset inflation.

          • benr January 7, 2020 at 3:00 pm #

            Dude 401k’s ARE STOCKS in to form of a mix of mutual funds and bonds.
            A soon as you buy in you have bought stocks and bonds.
            Your post makes no rational sense.

          • DrTomSchmidt January 7, 2020 at 4:49 pm #

            Do you understand median? Read here:
            dqydj.com/retirement-savings-by-age-united-states/

            You’ll find the median, which means half the people in the group have less than that amount, in there.ignore average. For 60-64 year olds, the median is 16k, and it drops as you go younger. Basically, half the people in the USA have effectively NO retirement savings and don’t benefit from asset-inflation-driven stock market gains.

            Hillary complained that Trump’s election would crash the stock market, and didn’t people worry about that? Uh, no: not if half the people in the USA have less than 5K in their accounts; it’s no skin off their back if those richer than they suffer a crash in value.

            Maybe you think that people with 5k in retirement assets (half the country) DO think they’re invested in the system? Dunno.

            Hope this explain my meaning.

    • Beryl of Oyl January 6, 2020 at 12:50 pm #

      Those are some interesting observations, Brabantian.

      That’s one key area where I disagree vehemently with conservatives, which I’ve somehow become without my knowing it.
      That impeachment of Bill Clinton was politically motivated and bogus.
      Oh, it was for a serious reason, because lying is serious?
      He lied about, as Andy Rooney put it, “an embarrassing personal matter”.
      The “evidence” used against him in the investigation was a soiled dress saved in a baggie, at the behest of a Bush operative.
      Why would there be an investigation of sex with in intern? Do we have sex police?
      It is to be remembered that early on in the investigations against Donald Trump, they tried to pull a similar thing on him, what Rudy Giuliani called a perjury trap.

      As far as what the president is doing now over the Iraq/Iran situation, yes I do believe there are those who would go to any lengths, including war, to derail his reelection.
      However, I don’t think he is backed into a corner and choosing his least worst options.
      President Trump is smarter than his enemies, is not desperate, and people also forget, he understands military strategy as he was actually schooled in it.

    • rhys12 January 6, 2020 at 5:52 pm #

      “Much of that is due to the squeeze that the USA put on Iran in the way of trade sanctions and currency movements. And much of that stems from events over forty years ago when the mullahs ran the shah out of town and took the American embassy staff hostage for well over a year. The enmity on both sides runs wide and deep.”

      You didn’t go back nearly far enough. The Mullahs took over Iran and ran the Shah out because the CIA overthrew a legitimately elected democratic government and installed the Shah (a dictator) on behalf of British Oil. We were the ones who started the whole thing, not Iran. And it was, and is, all about oil.

      • KSS January 7, 2020 at 7:23 am #

        valid statement

      • sprawlcapital January 7, 2020 at 1:05 pm #

        We were the ones who started the whole thing, not Iran.
        ==============================================

        Thank you, rhys12. I believe the year was 1953, the first year of the Eisenhower administration. The Dulles brothers were very influential at the time (an understatement}, Allen at CIA and John Foster at the State.Department. Convince those two that a foreign leader was controlled by the Soviets, and they would take what they assumed was appropriate action, resulting in the duly-elected foreign leader being replaced by a ruthless tyrant, like the Shah of Iran.

        Is it any wonder that by 1979 many Iranians were angry at the USA? Is it any wonder that our media make no effort to educate the American public about these facts of history?

        • sprawlcapital January 7, 2020 at 3:39 pm #

          I wrote, “I believe the year was 1953.” That is not a mere belief. It is as certain as any fact of history can be certain. By the way, I turned 4 that year, and, I regret to say, I was not paying closs attention to US foreign policy at the time. But the adults were not doing any better.

          • sprawlcapital January 8, 2020 at 1:28 am #

            I was not paying closs [close] attention . . .
            =================================

            I should know that one.

      • nchattaway January 8, 2020 at 10:52 pm #

        Operation Ajax was the first covert action of the United States to overthrow a foreign government during peacetime.

      • Cargill January 9, 2020 at 3:28 am #

        I had dinner with the Shah (and the Sharina – who was much more interesting) in Cairns Australia, in September 1974. Does that give me serious cred on here – what do you think?

    • toktomi January 6, 2020 at 8:41 pm #

      @Bra…

      Just a quick suggestion here that correlation and cause-and-effect are patently discernible.

      President of the United States is a non-supervisory position and has been mostly so for the entirety of its existence. JFK and Nixon, each suffered some confusion in this regard. None since have, thank god.

      maybe

      ~toktomi~

  2. Nightowl January 6, 2020 at 10:11 am #

    I can’t see much coming of the Soleimani affair. US allies in the West are not condeming it, and there is much we don’t know and won’t know as the media will not do its job.

    Here German officials openly criticized actions by the IRGC under Sol., with regard to strikes on the “anti-terror coalition.”

    • K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 1:14 pm #

      Not much.coming of it you say.

      Have you ever been tightening a bolt with a ratchet and had the head snap off? Now we need a drill bit, an ez-out and a tap handle.

      currentaffairs.org/2020/01/how-to-avoid-swallowing-war-propaganda

      The link has good penetrating oil.

      • Nightowl January 6, 2020 at 2:36 pm #

        Reads like it was written for someone with no concept of how media works.

        Then there is a great irony: that if one were to examine much of the content on currentaffairs.org based on the framework in this article, one would never read currentaffaris.org again.

        • toktomi January 6, 2020 at 8:57 pm #

          @NO

          I disagree.

          • Nightowl January 7, 2020 at 4:06 am #

            I agree with much of what is in that specific article. Other articles on the site, however, are full of emotionally charged statements with little to no evidence.

            In the case of this specific article, there is always the question of what one actually knows or doesn’t know. At present, it is rather difficult to evaluate whether the killing was justified or necessary as we are in no position to do so. Skepticism, however, is normal.

            Our European allies have publically backed Trump, so that is an indicator that there is likely substance behind the claims from the Admin.

        • K-Dog January 7, 2020 at 1:05 am #

          No concept of media. Here is some through Iranian eyes.

          Click to see.

          • K-Dog January 7, 2020 at 1:09 am #

            Iranian drone revealed the secrets of the American aircraft carrier.

      • toktomi January 6, 2020 at 8:56 pm #

        Carlin said it better, from my perspective.

        “It’s all bullshit, folks, and it’s bad for ya.”

        So, let’s give up pretending that there is anything to fix.
        There is nothing that can be fixed.
        Time to start worrying about where a body can get a drink of water.

        Like James is trying to say, “He’s close, real close.”

        I think.

        ~toktomi~

  3. Opie January 6, 2020 at 10:11 am #

    A baker’s dozen republicans is all that stands between Trump and impeachment, and more than that are in the direct pocket of a certain mideast country. The Orange man is being squeezed like an overripe florida grapefruit. War with Iran it is. Onward Christian soldiers!

    • malthuss January 6, 2020 at 10:25 am #

      yawn

    • JohnAZ January 6, 2020 at 10:26 am #

      Islam teaches its young men that Allah is irrepressible and that ultimate victory is just over the horizon. Ultimate victory being defined as domination of the world. Sounds like the USSR a couple of generations ago.

      The leadership of Iran stays in power by hate. They need an enemy to hold onto power. Israel is a natural. The US, as an Israeli supporter makes a grand target.

      As long as that leadership maintains its dominance, the ME will continue to fester. Their removal is a priority if stability is a priority.

      The US’s position is for the people of Iran to overthrow their own government. Will not happen.

      Trump is in a quagmire that has faced every president since 1980. Until now., cowardice has been to name of the game. Hopefully, no more. The next few days may set the foreign agenda for a long time.

      • Cavepainter January 6, 2020 at 10:57 am #

        And here we are likely see inserted a disputing reply that Islamic scholars preserved (as artifact) the principles of reasoned analysis and logic of the Greeks along with that of Roman law through the period of the Western Dark Ages. However, the relevant broader truth — so often unmentioned — is that when it came to the Koran exemption of such application was decreed. So, essentially, much like Hitler wanting to museum as quaint cultural artifact Jewish heritage.

        • JohnAZ January 6, 2020 at 11:13 am #

          Speaking of Hitler, remember Chamberlain’s pacifism in 1938?

          Sounds like the Democratic response to Iran. Dictators will not stop until someone stops them.

          • Tate January 6, 2020 at 12:22 pm #

            Gee, I thought Trump was Hitler. Now I’m confused.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 1:22 pm #

            What is a deplorable but Hitler writ small? John Az has betrayed us. His Christianity demands it!

          • BackRowHeckler January 6, 2020 at 2:41 pm #

            There its is.

            3 finger shot of Wild Turkey not only in order, but required..

            Who will join me?

            Brh

          • toktomi January 6, 2020 at 9:00 pm #

            @BRH

            101?

            Yer on.

            Oops. Had to giver up a year back – cannot hold my liquor.

            Cheers!

            ~toktomi~

        • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 1:20 pm #

          “Museum” as a verb? Wow! A comma after artifact would have helped with this. You are the ultimate “monument man”. Good Arab, George Clooney, would be proud.

      • abbybwood January 6, 2020 at 12:26 pm #

        According to the history I have read we actually need to go back to 1953 when the CIA staged a coup against Iran (Operation Ajax) and it’s democratically elected Prime Minister Mossedegh.

        It seems the British had made a sweet deal with Saudi Arabia for their oil to be nationalized and the Iranian government wanted the same deal. Great Britain said no so after Mossedegh was elected he nationalized the oil.

        That is when the United States stuck its nose where it didn’t belong and after they got rid of Mossedegh they put the Shah in power and he ushered in a long, bloody reign of terror on the people with the Savak police squads:

        foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/20/64-years-later-cia-finally-releases-details-of-iranian-coup-iran-tehran…

        THIS is what actually got the ball rolling causing the Iranian people to hate the US government.

        Ask any ordinary Iranian about the US coup in 1953 and they will know every detail. Ask any ordinary American about Operation Ajax and they will think you want to clean a sink!

        • roccofire January 6, 2020 at 7:43 pm #

          YES, believe or not, but several years ago, maybe more, the New York Times ran a story about this, Churchill pushing Truman ,and President Truman refusing to go along with it, then IKE was elected and his oil folks came on in. Awesome article.

      • Majella January 6, 2020 at 4:14 pm #

        Hey, JohnAZ…I’m getting a mixed message from you here. This reads like you’re FOR a real hot conflict with Iran, that the removal of the Mullahs should be a foreign policy objective, or am I mistaken?

        I ask because I’m pretty sure you were among the Faithful who were lauding Himself’s restraint when the drone was shot down, when he pulled the troops out of Syria to the disastrous cost of the Kurds and the reprieve it afforded ISIS, and generally, praising his expressed desire to ‘get out’ of the endless wars in the ME.

        Or am I mistaken? Please set me straight.

        • hmuller January 6, 2020 at 4:49 pm #

          You have every right to crow, Majella. I am very disappointed Trump was not the “peace candidate” I thought he was. Instead, he’s like some MK Ultra Zionist sleeper agent, and Bibi just whispered the trigger word in his ear.

          • Majella January 7, 2020 at 5:32 am #

            Not “crowing”, hmuller. I’m hoping JohnAZ can explain how this all works for him.

      • hmuller January 6, 2020 at 4:44 pm #

        Imagine this, JohnAZ. Some people do some things. One thing leads to another. The mosques (Al Aqsa & Omar) on the temple mount in Jerusalem are destroyed. Rather than rebuild them, Israel decides to build the third Jewish temple. Then things get really crazy.

    • MontanaMan January 7, 2020 at 7:42 am #

      Frothy emotional appeal. Hallmarks of a leftist. You.

  4. Jeremy January 6, 2020 at 10:13 am #

    sp. – “all he admirable”

    Thank you for that — JHK Admin

  5. Minnie Van Horne January 6, 2020 at 10:16 am #

    Mr. Kunstler is quite the wet blanket this morning, what with all his talk of financial collapse and political turmoil.

    Minnie was overcome with joy and fairly bursting with patriotic pride all weekend, especially after I whipped up a celebratory toddy or two. Just imagining how our beloved leader, the Golden Golem of Greatness, has embarked on a new crusade to rebuke those irrascible Iranians — and now apparently those ungrateful Iraqis too — why, it is all too much to have hoped for as a kickoff to the 2020s.

    I do hope that when our beloved Congress reauthorizes conscription to recruit the millions of new soldiers who will be needed, they give special priority to women, trans women, trans men and non-binary Americans of every shape and size and color. This will really be a grand statement to the world of American exceptionalism, and spotlight how American virtues of inclusion and Diversity will not scorn the contributions of any of our marvelous land!

    Onward to Bagdad and Tehran!!

    • PeteAtomic January 6, 2020 at 10:25 am #

      “I do hope that when our beloved Congress reauthorizes conscription to recruit the millions of new soldiers who will be needed, they give special priority to women, trans women, trans men and non-binary Americans of every shape and size and color. This will really be a grand statement to the world of American exceptionalism, and spotlight how American virtues of inclusion and Diversity will not scorn the contributions of any of our marvelous land!
      Onward to Bagdad and Tehran!!”

      +5 Hilarity

      • ellipsis January 6, 2020 at 10:40 am #

        LOL likewise! Imagine their surprise when the find out real bullets REALLY hurt!

        The US is SO fucked if they think war in the ME is a good idea. This could well be the end of the empire for good.

      • messianicdruid January 6, 2020 at 5:03 pm #

        ” This will really be a grand statement to the world of American exceptionalism, …”

        I had something more along the lines of Hunter Biden, Pelosi’s son, Mitten’s son, Kerry’s kid, and maybe four or 500 other of our leaders off-sprung be drafted to the infantry.

        This would be exceptional in the annals of history.

    • JohnAZ January 6, 2020 at 10:32 am #

      Islamic nations will never ally with the US or any one else. Their belief in their own superiority prevents them from compromise with anyone. Russia has discovered this, China too. Why don’t we? If we are not willing to kick ass in the ME, get out.

      • xhidarta January 6, 2020 at 11:08 am #

        “The Jewish nation will never ally with the US or any one else. Their belief in their own superiority prevents them From compromise with anyone. Russia has discovered this, China too. Why don’t we? If we are not willing to kick ass in the ME, get out”

        FFY.

        • MontanaMan January 7, 2020 at 7:44 am #

          No, you,did not. But, both of you are ate slap up with frothy emotional appeal.

    • abbybwood January 6, 2020 at 12:36 pm #

      Who needs hundreds of thousands of soldiers when all we have to do is have the kids in Vegas shoot off more drones like the Raptor that assassinated Suleimani??

      It’s a new world of drones now! Just ask Obama! He had lots of fun with them!

      BTW, just a point in fact, recently Suleimani was sharing victory against ISIS with US soldiers in Iraq. Google the photos!

      He was our biggest ally against ISIS….until suddenly he wasn’t.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 1:24 pm #

      Yes, this new man’s army is going to look like a Gay Pride Parade meet Tijuana meet Nairobi. Oh the humanity! Lady Gaga said to get rid of all the straight soldiers….

    • Majella January 6, 2020 at 4:16 pm #

      …or maybe they should target everyone wearing MAGA hats first…press-gang them off the streets. I wonder how long it would be before you could no longer FIND anyone wearing one – a week?

      • benr January 6, 2020 at 4:36 pm #

        That is a war your side would clearly lose and bigly.
        Better to target the Democrat side and drive them either South into Socialist Mexico or North into Socialist Canada.
        Either solution would make most of you cackling hyena leftist far happier.

        • Majella January 7, 2020 at 5:34 am #

          benr, sometimes you really are a humourless wanker, huh.

          • benr January 7, 2020 at 11:16 am #

            There is no humor in the thought of an open shooting war between the progressive communists openly engaging in a soft or hard coup and the normal red blooded Americans.

            I hope I don’t see such a conflict in my lifetime no matter how prepared I am for it.

  6. shotho January 6, 2020 at 10:21 am #

    That is a very intelligent and provocative analysis. One has to wonder if Trump is a creature of the power elites or a foe? Did he really mean it about draining the swamp? He has been stymied all the way around by different forces and seems to have a hard time coming up with his own way to operate. In other words, does anyone know where Trump stands in relation to domestic and geopolitical politics.
    I doubt seriously that Mr. Trump would resort to war in order to relieve his domestic troubles. But, he might come awfully close to take the heat off his beleagured administration. Is this what his enemies want him to do; overreach. It will be an interesting year, an election year we haven’t seen before.

    • JohnAZ January 6, 2020 at 11:06 am #

      I think Trumpism can be explained by a make a deal philosophy. I think he will make a deal with anybody in any fashion.

      His problem, even when he was private, is when the other guy has no intention of keeping their end of the deal. His response is anger and surprise.

      It is why he cannot deal with the Dems who are wonderful at double dealing to get their way.

    • abbybwood January 6, 2020 at 1:23 pm #

      Having a right-wing Christian evangelical fanatic who is constantly kissing Israel’s ring as Secretary of State has not served him or the American people well.

      Pompeo needs to be shown the door and a real diplomat needs to become Secretary of State. One who hopefully has studied history and understands the world of diplomacy to get along with other nations.

      But I think after what Trump just did to inflame the entire Middle East, it will be too late for him to make a change.

      • RIB January 6, 2020 at 3:00 pm #

        Hillary Clinton? John Kerry?

      • Majella January 6, 2020 at 4:21 pm #

        “In other words, does anyone know where Trump stands in relation to domestic and geopolitical politics.”

        Yes – it would be useful if Himself, first & foremost, would actually get and HOLD a belief, a principle. If he could express something defined and consistent, the rest of his Admin (and the world at large) maybe wouldn’t have to be second-guessing his every move.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 1:27 pm #

      He keeps his promises to Israel. That’s your clue. Some of the Global Elite don’t like Israel. Another clue. Summary clue: There are factions among the Elite and this is the biggest divide of them all.

  7. malthuss January 6, 2020 at 10:25 am #

    $1000 per month for each US citizen is what presidential candidate Andrew Yang is proposing to give each adult starting at the age of 18 years old.
    His plan is to offset the coming AI (automation) dominating half of American jobs.
    This guy is grounded in reality and has a background in economics and has a law degree. He is a serial entrepreneur so he knows what is coming for the American People due to automation.
    He was on the Joe Rogan podcast where he explains most of the major issues that we will face as a nation.

    OR

    327 million people x $1,000 per month is 327 billion per month. That is almost 4 trillion per year.
    The US budget is already at a deficit adding to the already absurd 22 trillion debt we have now. And he wants to add another 4 trillion to that?
    He is surely not grounded in reality. He may have a degree in economics and law, but third grade math says this will not work.

    And, I will add USA added 400,000 anchor babies in 2019.

    • Nightowl January 6, 2020 at 10:35 am #

      Pointless. Prices will continue to rise (particularly for real assets, like housing) and 1k a month will be nearly worthless.

      As far as I can tell, elites/polis proposing these sorts of solutions are simply further eliminating what remains of the middle class.

      Here in NW Germany, we bought a house about a year ago. Paid about market value but had to invest a bout 60k so far in renovations, and a bit more is due over the next few years (house is 90 years old).

      A year later, two houses on our block just sold for 200k more than we paid, and they are not nearly as desirable as ours.

      In the future, average people are going to be confined to living in a “pod” in the city, or moving so far out to the boonies that they would be best served with homesteading, if

      The trend and the politics behind it must be reversed.

      • Nightowl January 6, 2020 at 10:36 am #

        Would edit near the bottom, but you know …

      • JohnAZ January 6, 2020 at 11:00 am #

        Already happening in Denver Colorado, the apartment pods are a gruesome example of the urban blight JHK is always talking about.

        It is also sowing the next real estate bust there as it is severely overbuilt.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 1:31 pm #

        Well obviously prices will have to be fixed and we will thus become much more of a “command economy”. Sheesh, about time. The Market is simply the Law of the Jungle, with the big eating the small. Let’s clear that jungle, till the land, and make it work for people again. To the extent the market serves, it can stay. And yes, I know it does some things wonderfully – including meeting a very human need to get ahead of other people economically. Sad, but that’s who we are. Fine – but only up to a point and not at the expense of the weak or the nation as a whole.

        Limits on Greed – Oh My God!!!! Call in a Drone Strike.

      • BackRowHeckler January 6, 2020 at 2:38 pm #

        Night owl

        What kind of house, woodframe, stone, brick etc?

        How many sq..ft?

        Single family?

        I was just wondering what your average place in Germsny is like compared to what we have in New England.

        Brh

        • Nightowl January 6, 2020 at 3:46 pm #

          All brick. House has a crazy history. Was built by the Nazis to be part of a model German settlement for the Reich. THere is a similar settlement in Krumme Lanke, Berlin. The Waldsiedlung. Houses are the same as ours.

          Cottage style house. Traditional architecture with a sloping saddle-style roof. Survived the bombing raids. Looks almost exactly like this one. Probably the same model. hautevitrine.com/tag/waldsiedlung-krumme-lanke/

          The floor plan is also laid out like a swastika, which is rather unsettling.

          I still like it though. 😀

          • Nightowl January 6, 2020 at 3:51 pm #

            Ah, and we have 130 sq. meters. You need to convert. Built in ’37. Small by US standards, but typical of Germany.

          • BackRowHeckler January 6, 2020 at 6:19 pm #

            Nice report, Nightowl. Thank you.

    • JohnAZ January 6, 2020 at 10:42 am #

      Money is a representation of wealth. Wealth is the physical representation of man-hours of labor. The whole idea of UBI is so absurd. It is the same mentality as the Fed with QE, just give money to people, they do not need to earn it. Without labor backing, money will become what it is, paper.

      Yang is a result of a very sick side of economics, that money can just be printed and distributed without any backing. The real villain is the elimination of human labor by the Tech elite.

      As long as the US public think that emotional and spiritual fulfillment comes from Facebook and their cell phones, we are doomed.

      • Nightowl January 6, 2020 at 10:51 am #

        The elimination of human labor, and, ofc, increased control over said humans.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 1:34 pm #

        Yes John, a few people need to own everything and not have to pay anybody since they only have machines working for them. This is your ultimate fantasy – to be (or worship!) those in the Apex of the Pyramid, the Eye! And among them, there can only be One in the end.

        Your King is coming. Countless Christians will worship the Anti-Christ when he appears.

    • Cavepainter January 6, 2020 at 11:52 am #

      Hey wait, are you suggesting we not save the world by allowing (maybe even funding) all the globe’s desperate to come here? What, you have no compassion? Of course, all opting for minimum caloric intake through a straw will allow us to also preserve species diversity, wetlands, wilderness and all other of the virtue signalling gestures that promise Utopia. Maybe too having all marriages arranged by the government to prevent the advantage of beautiful people.

    • Beryl of Oyl January 6, 2020 at 12:58 pm #

      How many degrees in economics were out there, and how many warned of the damage from that last ‘bubble”?
      Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez has a degree in economics from what used to be considered a top school.
      She says unemployment is low because everybody has two jobs.

    • elysianfield January 6, 2020 at 1:37 pm #

      “And he wants to add another 4 trillion to that?”

      Malthuss,
      Why not? Ain’t ever going to be paid back in value.

    • Ishabaka January 6, 2020 at 2:25 pm #

      I wonder where we’d be if the Feds started giving everyone $10 a month back in 1908, when Ford came out with the Model T, to offset the coming ICE (internal combustion engine) dominating half of American jobs.

    • BackRowHeckler January 6, 2020 at 2:33 pm #

      Do illegals get the $1000 too?

      30 million illegals, $1000 a crack, per month, it adds up.

      And if they are eligible for medicare, which they will be if Yang has his way, I don’t know how you cannot give them $1000 per month living expenses on top of WIC payments, EBT card etc. It would be discriminatory in Yang’s free sh#t utopia.

      Brh

      • elysianfield January 6, 2020 at 2:49 pm #

        “if Yang has his way”

        BRH,
        I hope Yang does not get is way…that would be Wong…

    • Majella January 6, 2020 at 4:32 pm #

      “327 million people x $1,000 per month is 327 billion per month. That is almost 4 trillion per year.

      The US budget is already at a deficit adding to the already absurd 22 trillion debt we have now. And he wants to add another 4 trillion to that?”

      Your third-grade maths is out on a couple of counts, malthuss.

      Firstly, the population of the US is 329 million. of which 76% is aged over 18 = 250 million, so your figures are out by around 25%, or $1 trillion to begin with.

      Secondly, that $1,000 per month would replace a whole raft of existing social welfare programmes “guesstimated” to be $1.112 trillion

      usgovernmentspending.com/us_welfare_spending_40.html

      So, it’s not ALL on top of existing spending. Granted, it is an increase, but then the welfare spend will increase just as much under the effects of AI in the workplace.

  8. malthuss January 6, 2020 at 10:31 am #

    JIM HAS A NEW BOOK, DUE SOON.

    However, conditions are changing fast in the collapse.
    The info may be so 2019.

    • elysianfield January 6, 2020 at 2:41 pm #

      Malthuss,
      Yes, “Living In the Long Emergency”. I, however, am eagerly anticipating it’s companion piece, “Loving in the Long Emergency”…there will be car chases, and explosions! Maybe even suggestive pic’s of Salma Hayek….

      Spoiler Alert!

      It will be revealed that prostitutes will then not accept US dollars, but rather oil. A can of WD-40 or cheap 30 weight will do the trick….

      • BackRowHeckler January 6, 2020 at 6:32 pm #

        E.

        WD-40, duct tape, an adjustable wrench, a saws all … pretty much all you need to survive the long emergency — and live well.

        I just bought a Mosin Nagant M44 from a guy who was getting divorced and had to get rid of his guns. Made in 1948 (date is on it) looks like it came out of the factory last week. Probably packed in cosmoline many decades. Phew, the thing is solid and massive as Russia itself. It came with a whole bunch of replacement parts and accessories. $75, and he thanked me for taking it off his hands. Do you know anything about these things?

        Brh

        • elysianfield January 6, 2020 at 7:10 pm #

          BRH,
          Yes, I…know a guy that has more than a few of the Nagants, in various configurations. M44 Carbine was seen in Viet Nam extensively. Reason they look new is that the weapon probably came from a Russian or Eastern Bloc country that sold the unused weapons for hard cash in the late 80’s. Soviet and Chicom troops were transitioning to the SKS semi-auto in the late ’40’s, hence the condition of your find. 7.62X54 is an easily found round, equivalent approximately to the .308. Value of the weapon approaches $250.

          Robust weapon…bit more muzzle blast due to the short barrel, so wear ear protection.

          • elysianfield January 7, 2020 at 6:25 pm #

            BRH,
            All his guns? What else did he have?

  9. volodya January 6, 2020 at 10:35 am #

    It’s not just what JHK sez about the energy supply situation which festers like a bag full of week old kitchen garbage. I read somewhere that there’s 25% fewer rigs doing the fracking thing on the US mainland this year from last. Or some-such. In any case, profits in that game are paltry or nonexistent and the referee is looking at his watch. 

    It’s also the laughable system of global production and consumption which was set up with built-in demolition charges. The US imports gigantic container ships of stuff it no longer manufactures because the geniuses that run things thought it would be a good idea to move America’s industrial back-bone to China of all places. 

    So, is there some actual “trade” in this arrangement we call international trade? Not a whole lot between the US and China. US trade deficit stats are testament to that as is the execrable state of heartland towns and cities. The American consumer market was gutted by sending millions of good paying jobs to China where millions of people work earning a couple bucks an hour. So who buys all that shit? Not the Chinese worker because he can’t afford to. What gets exported to the US isn’t paid for by an actual trade of actual physical goods but rather an exchange of IOUs for Chinese made products.

    Hence, towering consumer debt in the US, trillion dollar government deficits as it tries to keep the wheels on this dispensation, and add to that corporate balance sheets which ballooned with debt as they do stock buybacks to replenish shareholder coffers in anticipation of the day when everything goes tits up.

    Because tits up it will go. And whoever holds all that government and consumer and corporate debt will get shagged. 

    The bright side of this is that when it comes down, and it will come down, something else will take its place. Just like the faces changed in the manor houses of ancient Rome as Roman land-lords were shooshed at spear-point by invading Goths and Slavs and what-have-you, so it shall be in the present-day when the unworkable stops working. Regime change courtesy of that thing we call Reality. 

    • PeteAtomic January 6, 2020 at 10:47 am #

      “The bright side of this is that when it comes down, and it will come down, something else will take its place. Just like the faces changed in the manor houses of ancient Rome as Roman land-lords were shooshed at spear-point by invading Goths and Slavs and what-have-you, so it shall be in the present-day when the unworkable stops working. Regime change courtesy of that thing we call Reality. ”

      yep you are right, Volodya!

      • JohnAZ January 6, 2020 at 10:56 am #

        Everyman does not give a darn who is in charge, as long as the bosses keep everybody’s belly full.

        • volodya January 6, 2020 at 1:17 pm #

          Especially if they collect less in the way of tax. The farmers in the various provinces could care less about what face was in the manor house. Life goes on.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 5:56 pm #

        Yeah so what if another man fucks your wife? He’s a man, you’re a man – what’s the difference?

        Logic for Others, you see.

  10. PeteAtomic January 6, 2020 at 10:40 am #

    I think we are starting to see how the future is shaping up at home & abroad, and further inability & instability is already ‘baked in’ to much at home & abroad, regardless of who is sitting in the Congress chambers or in the Oval Office.

    Muddled, befuddled & kerfuffle is the future. Power vacuums generally attract the worst sort of operators out there– kooks, extremists– kooky extremists– People who literally wanna throw babies out with the bathwater.

    So, danger ahead Will Robinson. The cacophony of howlers from the MSM headed to 2020 is gonna at feverish tone & tenor. Thank God the TV still has an ‘off’ button.

    • venuspluto67 January 6, 2020 at 11:43 am #

      Thank God the TV still has an ‘off’ button.

      The only time my television is on these days is to watch reruns of shows from the eighties and the nineties. I guess that makes me officially Old. 😉

      • K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 12:17 pm #

        Are you sure it is off? Oceania can still listen unless the telescreen is unplugged.

        • venuspluto67 January 6, 2020 at 1:02 pm #

          As a rather off-color Facebook meme I recently saw poignantly put it, “What are they gonna do, watch me jack off and cry?” 😀

        • Beryl of Oyl January 6, 2020 at 1:08 pm #

          I heard there are changes afoot to make “free” TV something you have to log into to watch, so that you can be spied on.
          The FCC hasn’t been working for those who pay for it for a long time, maybe we should just get rid of it and let the global corporations rule the airwaves too.
          Why pretend otherwise?

          • BackRowHeckler January 7, 2020 at 6:04 am #

            That’s disturbing, BoO. Where’d you hear thats?

            If you see this, post at end of thread.

  11. uslabor January 6, 2020 at 10:41 am #

    “The Iranians are pissed off to beat the band. They’ve pulled many a prank the past couple of years, like attacking a major Saudi Arabian oil terminal, capturing American sailors, shooting down American drones, seizing tankers in the Persian Gulf and suchlike capers — all with no response from their foes, including us.”

    No response from their foes, including us? How about crippling economic sanctions? How about Cyber attacks on Nuclear program? How about targeted assassinations? Let’s not even mentioned Bad Behavior by by the Israels over the years, which include at will airstrikes on Iranian positions in shia friendly Iraq.

    No more American blood or treasure fighting Israel’s foes!!

    • BackRowHeckler January 6, 2020 at 10:57 am #

      Iran has been a foe of the USA for 40 years. The fact that Iran is an enemy of Israel as well is not surprising, but has not much to do with our quarrel with Iran. If Israel did not exist Iran would still be an enemy.

      Brh

      • xhidarta January 6, 2020 at 11:26 am #

        “Iran has been a foe of the USA for 40 years”. No shit. What would you expect after the Mossadegh overthrow and the installation of the fake Sha as a convenient puppet to plunder their oil?
        Our quarrel with Iran has a lot to do with Israel since the destruction of Iran has been a long expressed desire since Ariel Sharon onwards by all Israeli PM’s and the attendant Jewish lobby in America spearheading the warmongering.
        It’s always more effective and less costly to use American Treasure and American blood to fight for Israel.
        During the joint operations of Juniper Cobra between Israel and the USA, I watched an interview of the US Commander expressing his conviction that their soldiers were “willing to die for Israel”.
        Does it get more clear?
        Is this what Washington would do in “foreign entanglements”?
        The whole thing stinks.

        • BackRowHeckler January 6, 2020 at 12:20 pm #

          Ok maybe.

          But how many US soldiers died for France in 1918 and 1944? And to clean up France’s mess in Indo China beginning in 1954? A power like the US has obligations, and they have to be met.

          Historian Charles Beard spent 50 years populating a foreign policy such as the one you seem to be espousing here, which was to have no foreign policy, and let the world go to hell.

          As far as the 1953 coup goes, that was a Cold War action. Great Britain — who had a true Empire — was much deeply involved in Persia we were.

          Brh

          • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 1:40 pm #

            As you have been told repeatedly, America is an Empire but not in the old sense. This one wants to go Global via Economics. So it’s not really “America” but rather Gotham or Oceania. So what if American troops were out of Germany in a couple of years after WW1? French Oceanics and Negro Mercenaries remained to savage the Volk.

            The Iranians are fighting for their lives. If they don’t make us pay, they will be pressed even harder. They have to fight now that we’ve backed them into a corner.

  12. newworld January 6, 2020 at 10:50 am #

    My guess the happiest people over the Warlord’s death are his peers in Iran and the Shia crescent. My other guess is that said warlord had no real strategy for Iran besides his own power over life, death and booty.

    If you like pop culture and don’t really want to read my boring post watch the Star Trek movie “The Undiscovered Country.”

    • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 1:42 pm #

      We just killed the Shiite, George Patton. Wake up. There are huge rallies going vowing revenge. Not celebrations like Pompous Pompeo indicated.

  13. JohnAZ January 6, 2020 at 10:52 am #

    Hollywood tried to anesthetize the American people in the 1930’s with feel good tripe like Shirley Temple and Over the Rainbow. It worked somewhat.

    Did everyone enjoy the parade of low budget Hallmark Christmas movies last month? Talk about kerfluffle!

  14. BackRowHeckler January 6, 2020 at 10:53 am #

    “For now impeachment is on the back burner”.

    I think it will stay on the back burner. I believe it was a show trial cooked up to mollify ‘The Resistance’, and Speaker Pelosi never had any intention of delivering it to the Senate.

    Brh

    • Nightowl January 6, 2020 at 10:59 am #

      Exactly. As they say here, it was Affentheater. A term that works on multiple levels.

    • JohnAZ January 6, 2020 at 11:18 am #

      Senators are moving to eliminate the trial, others to bring it on. The Dems do not want the trial to happen. Their stupidity shows too much in the articles of impeachment, and the Barr/Durham can of worms will become public knowledge and the MSM will not be able to block it.

  15. newworld January 6, 2020 at 10:54 am #

    And in relation to the financial part of this Monday’s post, to get the Obama cult we had to have Bernanke and Co. kill off Lehman and Bear Stearns instead of having a forced but managed liquidation, and then we had years of stagflation and the start of the Cultural Revolution. For that you “liberals” should be exiled.

    In your defense gentle “liberals” you did save us from McCain and Romney, bless you for that.

  16. Ishabaka January 6, 2020 at 10:54 am #

    This is the first war in recent human history where the first casualty was a high-level, elderly general. In every other war the generals, safe behind the front lines, have sent disposable young men to their deaths.
    From now on, generals and politicians will have to think twice, thrice, and four times before initiating wars.

    • uslabor January 6, 2020 at 10:57 am #

      Well, there was that old fella and his wife that were assassinated in Sarajevo in 1914. Starred WW I.

      • Ishabaka January 6, 2020 at 2:19 pm #

        That was an assassination. He wasn’t a general, and he wasn’t looking to start a war. Totally different.

    • JohnAZ January 6, 2020 at 11:20 am #

      Reminds me of an adolescent. Just keep pushing and pushing until someone puts the hammer down.

      • K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 12:13 pm #

        A pissing contest with bonesaw. Who can be the bigger pussy.

  17. wpa_ccc January 6, 2020 at 11:04 am #

    ”The Iranians are pissed off“ —brh

    Wouldn’t you be pissed off if the US deep state replaced a democratically elected president with a puppet dictator? (see 1953) That is what preceded the mullahs taking over.

    • K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 11:23 am #

      They are pissed on, not pissed off. That’s worse.

    • Anon1970 January 6, 2020 at 11:29 am #

      You beat me to the 1953 overthrow of the elected Iranian government by the US and the UK (over oil). And we Americans complain about alleged Russian interference in the 2016 American elections.

      • wpa_ccc January 6, 2020 at 11:35 am #

        Blowback is a bitch, as Trump is about to find out. A US city has never been hit by a suitcase nuke. Throwing rolls of paper towels is poor leadership.

      • K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 11:44 am #

        Jacobo Árbenz was taken to the airport naked in 1954. With so many American coups it is hard to keep track of them. The only thing clear and easy is the American public has always been deceived about what is really going on.

    • Majella January 6, 2020 at 9:50 pm #

      …and it still took 26 years to succeed at that. Still, I suspect that Iranians, in general, preferred the Peacock Throne years to those since the 1979 revolution.

      That revolution pissed the US off so much it all but immediately started a proxy war by supporting & emboldening Saddam. Nine years of misery ensued. Then the US duped Saddam, a supposed ally, into a tight spot and slapped the living shit out of poor beleaguered Iraq.

      Despite ‘winning’ in GF1, the US followed it up with a decade of crippling sanctions, followed by a ‘shock and awe’ show, televised for the masses, followed by a long and fraught occupation.

      Now we are here, and Himself is telling Iraq it better not throw the US troops out or he’ll sanction the shit out of it…is there anything left to rape & pillage?

      I just wish Himself would get a fucking clue and have a position that is at least consistent with his previous statements!

  18. HowardBeale January 6, 2020 at 11:13 am #

    If the Iraqi Parliament vote to boot the U.S. sticks, it’s not difficult to imagine Iran fully controlling Iraq’s oil, which would then likely lead to its current production being removed from world supply–via sanctions. How long would that take? How much is Iraq currently producing?

    Messy.

    • Majella January 6, 2020 at 9:53 pm #

      How long do you think it would be before China said “Screw US sanctions – we’ll buy your oil.”

      • SG-71 January 7, 2020 at 12:57 am #

        Well considering they are already buying/trading with Iran anyway in defiance of sanctions… not long. Perhaps a few minutes?

  19. trolleybill January 6, 2020 at 11:23 am #

    About time we get the hell out of their as they have not only economic issues their but religious fever to control all. Iran’s 1980 war with Iraq killed 500,000 troops over a boarder dispute and after 7 years of war the boarders are back were they were. The war was like WWI with gas and trench warfare along with wave attacks…..About our oil future we are going to get new Alaskan oil as Trump opened up Artic areas and federal lands to be used. I still see a mass transit future as a big relief as many youngsters are not buying vehicles like other previous generations…..I like to see the banking straightened out but we need to get spending tightened and honest brokers in charge of all this. I’d like to see a move to enacted the Glass Steagall act again or at least it brought and discussed in a public forum

  20. peter m January 6, 2020 at 11:29 am #

    all with no response from their foes, including us, until last week..

    Rather clueless Mr. Kuenstler? Remember something like MEK? mujahedin khalq? They sort of likely but with deniable plausbility work for various US organizations.
    Then there were the attacks by a virus – Stuxnet, remember that? – likely constructed by the Israelis and infiltrating the software of centrifuges in Iran with the help of your various “security agencies” – don’t have any idea whose security, but that is what they claim.

    And then there was of course the incident when English pirates (so called soldiers) stopped and hijacked an oil tanker with iranian oil through its way through the Strait of Gibraltar
    .
    And then there was the little thing of downing an Iranian airplane with over 200 folks on board by a missile fired from US ship.

    That is just off the top of my head, not to mention the action in the 1950 when the CIA and MI whatever number “removed” the truly elected Mr. Mossadegh.

    Then there is the little war sponsored by the US and other NATO members against Iraq with the supply of chemical and biological weapons..remember that?

    And of course breaking by the Golden Golem an international agreement called the JCPOA and slapping severe sanctions on Iran.

    I can only think that you are either severely non – informed or that your comment is meant as satire…

    • benr January 7, 2020 at 11:35 am #

      You forgot the countless proxy wars Iran has sponsored they are getting exactly what they deserve and more.
      Persia was an empire that murdered and subjugated millions.
      Kharma reaps and whirls.

  21. venuspluto67 January 6, 2020 at 11:34 am #

    One collapse blogger I read put forth the theory that the problem the repo markets are having stem from all the dodgy loans that have been made to the money-losing fracking industry. While we have no way of no knowing if that is really true, it sure sounds as though it could be true, don’t you think?

  22. oilie January 6, 2020 at 11:34 am #

    It seems to me that the announcement of the death of the shale oil industry is premature. Although about thirty companies are essentially bankrupt, most of the largest shale producers were breaking even with oil in the mid $50s. This is no different from the ends of many previous booms. They produce too much, too fast, flood the market until prices drop and the weak companies die. The price drop occurred in 2014 and it slowed the rate of production increase. The production rate is only now beginning to actually drop. This will end with lower production, slightly higher oil price and enough surviving companies to supply the market.

    The U.S. should enjoy about a decade of adequate oil supply, tolerable prices and minimal net imports, but we need to retool our own refineries to handle more of our own more volatile shale oil. If there is ever to be a time of chaos in the middle east that does not create major shortages here, it is the present and near future.

    The huge unknown is just what Iran will do to alleviate the pinch on their oil sales. Attacking Saudi facilities or closing the Strait of Hormuz might result in their loss of their own facilities and the rest of the world starving for oil. That is a sure prescription for a major world war.

  23. axisboldaslove January 6, 2020 at 12:19 pm #

    Today’s blog, Jim, this is what I came here for. Well done! Bravo!

  24. Beryl of Oyl January 6, 2020 at 12:38 pm #

    “So, a lot depends on what happens in the Middle East, easily the most politically mixed-up and confused region in the world — though central Africa may have it beat for sheer horrifying chaos.”

    Africa- that’s where the money from the Paris Accord that President Trump got us out of was supposed to go.

    Even if you could prove with 100% certainty that climate change due to man-made causes is fact, it does not necessarily follow that sending stupefying amounts of money to “Africa” (does Africa have a P.O. Box?) would fix anything.

    Sounds suspiciously like one of the biggest cons the world has ever seen.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 5:46 pm #

      Africa is the key. They must be sterilized after having one or two children somehow. Else they will continue to over-run the world, dragging everything down to their level.

    • BackRowHeckler January 6, 2020 at 6:12 pm #

      Sending loads of cash to black African countries usually makes things worse than they already are, and they are bad. Invariably, the swag is looted by the president and his family, who live in luxury and buy townhouses in London, Paris or Rome, Rolls Royces, and personal aircraft. If anything is left over it goes to purchasing Kalashnikov rifles from China and Russia, of which there are tens of millions circulating on the Continent. A few decades ago Bono of U2 led a campaign for International Banks to forgive African debt and make even more loans that would not be paid back. Suddenly flush with cash the President of Uganda, a purported cannibal, immediately purchased 3 British Harrier Jets complete with flight crew, ground crew, fuel and spare parts, which he then used to strafe another tribe in the bush in his own country.

      Basically the esteemed Paris Accord was a shakedown of the West, on behalf of 3rd world African sh#tholes. Thank God the president got us out of it.

      Brh

  25. capt spaulding January 6, 2020 at 12:39 pm #

    Iran will turn out to be the key to the Middle East, and Russia will be just the one to turn it. Of course Putin wouldn’t try to insinuate Russia into the ME, and assert it’s own influence within the oil drilling communities, because he’s Trump’s friend, and friends just don’t do that to each other.

    When it comes to Suleiman, it’s like Trump said: “Hey, get that guy outa here. He’s nothing but trouble. He’s not a good guy. He’s terrible. Just awful. No good at all.. So bad. Matter of fact, he’s the worst. Yeah, he’s definitely the worst. A lotta people tell me so. They say to me:’that guy’s the worst. He’s a bum. Such a bum.’ Do we want a bum like that around here, folks? Do we? No, you bet we don’t. Get him the hell outta here. Do you agree? Yeah! So long loser. SAD.

    • elysianfield January 6, 2020 at 1:56 pm #

      Like Trump said…

      Captain,
      Again, you do that well.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 2:10 pm #

      Yeah, he was the Mastermind behind 9/11 too. Bad Hombre. Had to go. Now let’s kill a few million more of them as well. As BRH says, he killed six hundred American heroes – and that’s a blood debt that only six hundred thousand or six million lives can recompense.

      How do I know. Mike “Genius” Pence said so. I mean look at the guy. Even John Az knows he’s schmart.

      yahoo.com/news/mike-pence-soleimani-911-false-015053819.html

      • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 2:13 pm #

        Friar Tuck is with me. He alone is worth the entire “Conservative” world. He is a ONE, a Man – and the rest of you are just ciphers or zeroes.

        He’s probably going to get kicked off the air in the very near future. This War is going to save America after all – proof that it is beyond repair and doesn’t deserve to be saved.

        • DrTomSchmidt January 7, 2020 at 11:09 pm #

          Too true, Janos. Tucker was lethal against the ingrown toenail that is DC yesterday. He’s gonna get himself killed, not just kicked off the air.

        • Nightowl January 9, 2020 at 8:39 am #

          Tucker has proven to be a good man, but he has called this incorrectly, IMO.

          He also previously aligned himself with Bush and War, Inc., so his political judgment is certainly prone to episodes of major miscalculation.

          IMO, we are observing an unconventional exit strategy. And I think it will work. The GCC is going to handle things in the end.

  26. Tate January 6, 2020 at 1:03 pm #

    So is this what the sham impeachment was all about? Trump’s super-majority in the Senate doesn’t appear so solid now, huh? It’s just the price he had to pay to stay in office. Hopefully, he’ll drag his feet as much as possible.

    • abbybwood January 6, 2020 at 2:05 pm #

      I think many who would have voted for Trump’s re-election have now decided to just stay home in November. Who needs another war monger for President??

      Bloomberg has already bought his way into third place in the Democrat primary.

      If anyone except Sanders wins the nomination, I predict the lowest voter turnout in American history.

      Especially if the DNC can’t stomach a Sanders/Gabbard ticket and they get the Superdelegates to put in a centrist tool like Mr. Rhodes scholar Buttigieg.

      SAD.

  27. SW January 6, 2020 at 1:06 pm #

    I’ve read a couple of articles that agree with you about the decline in shale oil:

    “For shale drillers, the problem is made worse by the fact that they are facing financial stress and the prospect of persistently low prices. The rig count has fallen sharply, down roughly 20 percent since last November. Drillers are cutting back, hoping to improve their cash flow position amid investor scrutiny.”

    Here’s the article — oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/US-Shale-Production-Is-Set-For-A-Steep-Decline.html#

    No doubt Suleiman was a dangerous man but that doesn’t give the US or any anyone else the right to murder him. We are not at war with Iran, Iraq is an independent country (or so we are told) and have the right to have anyone they want in their country, and equally important, they want us gone and I don’t blame them. These targeted assassinations completely ignore any rule of law and treat all the other people killed in these attacks as expendable. How can America, the UK and Israel take the high ground against Russia, China or Venezuala and utter a peep about human rights?

  28. akmofo January 6, 2020 at 1:12 pm #

    The world is moving back into alignment. The year 2020 is that year.

    The Vatican mafia and its commie globalist/imperialist machinations has been exposed, and so its agents. You don’t kill someone like General Qasem Soleimani until someone gives him up. The Mullahs are now searching for the shtinker(s) who gave him up. That would be practically everyone in Lebanon Syria Iraq Iran and Russia, so good luck with that.

    Hollywood and its equally diseased Vatican sisters, the alphabet soup of Vatican/CIA propaganda networks, are being radiated in the cancer ward by none other than Ricky Gervais. They all know they don’t have long to live: twitter.com/i/status/1214003718867300352

    God has a sense of humor, and so Israel is now exporting gas and fresh desalinated water to its former enemies, Jordan and Egypt, while Israelis are lighting Hanukkah candles in Saudia as Saudis sing Hebrew prayers and Israeli pop tunes.

    There’s still the matter of the US commie gov mafia, but as President Trump proved that he is a lose canon to the Iranian Imperialist calculations, the pinheads at the US gov mafia alphabet soup of agencies are likely next for a canon strike in the bowling alley.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 3:16 pm #

      Yes, Babylon has come to Saudi Arabia – with them now hosting International models and actresses at sold out Rock Concerts. Bin Ladin was obviously right about the fallen House of Saud. Or were they always Cryptos like the Shia say? The Sunni say the Shia are Cryptos. Will the real Cryptos please stand up!

      I don’t know. Do you?

      • akmofo January 6, 2020 at 4:02 pm #

        Shia are Persians. They are not Arabs, even though some speak Arabic and like to call themselves Arabs. Same regards the Christians. By definition Christians are not Arabs (they are Greeks, Romans, Armenians, Assyrians, etc).

        Arabs are Sunni. Arabs and Jews are cousins via Abraham, as are Greeks/Romans and Jews (via the Hebrew Princess Europa, and later via the Prince of Troy, Aeneas, whose progeny founded Rome). So, in a sense, we are all related. Except for the Germans, who are completely alien to the region and to the planet really.

        As for “Cryptos”, you might want to ask “Shakespeare” (Lady Amelia Bassano) and Christopher Columbus, but these two are definitely not: youtu.be/34uMlerTu6c

      • akmofo January 6, 2020 at 5:03 pm #

        Here’s another “crypto” for you to not tell apart:
        A little “Greek” girl performing a Hebrew song in Israel:
        youtu.be/a2CCE5kjkcs

      • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 5:12 pm #

        Oh that’s right – you’re of the “Whites don’t exist but Jews do” school.

        The Church of Antioch (Arab) one of the oldest in Christendom. Here’s some superb chanting in Arabic.

        youtube.com/watch?v=8-EfW7gYzns

        • akmofo January 6, 2020 at 5:37 pm #

          You do realize that Antioch is in Turkey? There are no Arabs in Turkey and never were. They speak/chant in Arabic because that was/is the language of the Islamic world of which Turkey was/is a apart of. These Christians is all that is left of the Roman Empire in the area, and they too will soon be gone.

          There are many Christians in Israel that speak Hebrew, that doesn’t make them Jews anymore than them also speaking Arabic makes them Arabs.

          I speak fluent English, it doesn’t make me English anymore than it does Ahmed in London with his Jihadi suicide belt.

          The clearest example of this understanding is the complete genocide of Christians in the Arab world, where everyone understands who is who, and what is what.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 5:48 pm #

            So you admit that many Arabs were/are Christians – something you denied before? Good. That was the main point. My folly undid you! It’s called Grace….

          • akmofo January 6, 2020 at 6:11 pm #

            Sorry Janos, but you’re not going to get away with your deliberate lies and false assertions of what was said, not on my thread.

            Arab speaking Christians are the remnants of the Roman Empire. These Arab speaking Christians are what’s left of Greeks Romans Syriacs etc., in the area.

            Rome never conquered the Arab peninsula. When the Arabs conquered the Roman Empire, the leftover Greeks/Romans adapted the Arab language. This doesn’t make them Arabs. They know this, and most importantly the Arabs know this. That is why Arabs are butchering these Romans/Christians wherever they find them.

          • BackRowHeckler January 6, 2020 at 7:38 pm #

            It’s happening in Africa too, Christians targeted and liquidated in the most brutal way.

          • akmofo January 6, 2020 at 8:10 pm #

            @BackRowHeckler

            This is what happens when you impose Vatican imperialism on tribal societies. The same will happen in Europe in response to the Vatican’s EU empire project. People are already burning churches in Europe, and this trend will only accelerate. We are all tribal in nature. The Hebrew Bible understands this and turns it to a positive force of nation building with static borders and civility in governance. The Vatican with its Roman Imperialism goes opposite to human nature and turns the whole enterprise of government and civilization into one of mass theft mass corruption mass debauchery mass enslavement mass murder and cultural genocide. People have long memories, and when they get a chance to exact revenge for the evil done to them by Romanism, they do so.

  29. Walter B January 6, 2020 at 1:40 pm #

    Good point about the repo market Jim, and one well made by Mike Pento on Sundays, Greg Hunter show:

    usawatchdog.com/no-escape-from-massive-global-debt-monetization-michael-pento/

    I have been hearing the rumblings of this issue for a while now and it appears that the quakes are coming closer and closer together. From what I understand, the inter-bank, overnight lending is done (at pretty much a zero interest rate) so that one bank can balance its P/E obligations for a few moments before the day starts and the income expected to be gotten the new day covers the short of the overnight lending. If my understanding of what is being done is correct, banks that are underwater can float these loans until the next day’s income can be put on the books to fill the shortfall. If the situation gets bad enough, the Fed just hands out the cash as QE, which is ongoing and has been for a while now too.

    Printing out money out of thin air is working so far, but at some point in time, given pressure from other nations that are not doing the same, the Ponzi Scheme will collapse. If every other country out there is also simply just printing up money out of thin air, then I have no idea what will happen and it may simply go on like this forever. As long as drug dealers are willing to take a roll of cash for a bag of dope anything goes and nothing really matters. When that changes, watch out!

    • cbeard January 7, 2020 at 5:27 pm #

      All money is and always has been magically created out of thin air. It is a figment of mans imagination. A way to control people. Usually works better than barter though. Human nature being what it is, I can’t come up with a better way of managing societies, paying for goods and services and such. But the system is broken due to greed, politics, religious animosities and the fact that the vast majority of people are completely clueless.

  30. My Point of View January 6, 2020 at 1:48 pm #

    Connect the dots.

    Trump and the GOP are in bed with the fossil fuel crowd; coal and oil.

    Shale frackers need money to pay down debt and to fund operations since banks are increasingly reluctant to loan more money.

    Best way to get “free money” is start some shit in the middle east which will jack up prices; thus we get the killing of Soleimani to provoke a crisis and send oil prices higher.

    With higher prices the frackers need to borrow less money from big banks which eases the mess in the repo markets. NY FED President John Williams said the Fed’s response to inject liquidity into repo markets following a cash crunch in September had “worked exactly as we wanted. As the level of reserves have been brought back to the appropriate level, we’ve seen money markets operate very smoothly.”

    Thus the GOP pays back the Koch brothers and other oil barons who own them.

    Trump gets to wear the mantle of being a ‘war president’ in hopes to negate the impeachment process.

    • BackRowHeckler January 6, 2020 at 2:19 pm #

      What impeachment process?

      The fossil fuel crowd?

      You mean the people who mine, transport and refine the oil we require to heat our homes run our cars and generally keep the project of western civilization a going concern?

      Brh

      • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 3:22 pm #

        Western Journal. Thirty Targets Now Identified

        JS: The Red Flag of War has been raised in the Holy City of Qom.

        An Iranian provincial commander has identified more than 30 targets within striking distance of the Islamic Republic, echoing hints at harsh revenge against Americans.

        Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps General Gholamali Abuhamzeh made the remarks at a ceremony in Tehran on Friday evening.

        The military commander first hinted that a major oil transportation route falls within Iran’s range, making it a prime target for revenge over the killing of Qassem Soleimani, commander of the IRGC’s Quds Force.

        “The Strait of Hormuz is a vital thoroughfare for the West, and a large number of American destroyers and warships cross the Strait of Hormuz, the Sea of Oman and the Persian Gulf,” Abuhamzeh said, according to the Iranian state-run Tasnim News Agency.

        International trade isn’t the only thing the thuggish Iran is willing to strike at.

        Seemingly even more central to their plans of vengeance are the numerous U.S. positions in the regions surrounding Iran.

        “Thirty-five vital American positions in the region are within the reach of the Islamic Republic,” Abuhamzeh later continued, “and Tel Aviv — the U.S.’s heart and life — is also within our reach.”

        The general indicated that these positions have been on Iran’s radar for some time.

        Abuhamzeh is not alone in promising Americans will pay for the violent drone strike that put Soleimani in the grave.

        Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei, also warned the West of repercussions after the killing.

        It appears as though Iran and its proxies are already working to make these threats a reality.

        The red flag of war was raised in the country’s holy city of Qom on Saturday, the blood-colored standard seemingly calling for Soleimani to be avenged.

        Shortly after the flag was raised, rocket artillery rained down in Baghdad.

        At least two rockets landed in the area of the city’s Green Zone near the U.S. Embassy, with even more of the munitions impacting an air base farther north. It’s unclear at this point who is behind the rocket attacks, or if the city should brace itself for more violence.

        JS: The General Knows. You do not. The beating Heart of Gotham is Tel Aviv. Places like London, New York, Washington, etc are secondary or regional capitals.

  31. Minnie Van Horne January 6, 2020 at 2:28 pm #

    Has everyone seen the photos of the millions of Mohammadans filling the streets of Tehran for the sendoff of General Soleimani?

    Such a fuss, you would think they were laying to rest the sainted Princess Di after she got drone-striked by MI6 in the Point Alma Tunnel, along with that nice terrorist playboy she was bonking at the time.

    Anyway, color Minnie puzzled that they needed a full-size casket to contain the charred bits of the General they likely scraped from the twisted wreckage. Could there really have been much more than a nouvelle-cuisine size portion of Beef Kung Pao from Pei Wei?

    Had President Trump been really thoughtful, he could have rifled through Melania’s closet and found a Tiffany gift box large enough for let’s say a tiara, and FedEx-ed that off to Mr. Khamenei. I think that would have more than sufficed for the remains. But I suppose everything was done in such haste over a busy weekend and the Golden Golem of Greatness cannot think of absolutely everything, absolutely all the time.

    Speaking of lovely Princess Di, don’t you think she would be thrilled know that she has posthumously become the mother-in-law of Meghan Markle? Ironic, isn’t it? Neither one of them will ever become Brittania’s reigning monarch, but each was/is the queen of the covers of People Magazine. There is some consolation for all of us in that.

    • Minnie Van Horne January 6, 2020 at 3:01 pm #

      Oh no, a typo. I meant Pont Alma, not Point Alma.

      Mr. Autocorrect is not always Minnie’s friend.

      • GreenAlba January 7, 2020 at 10:40 am #

        Mr Autocarrot still isn’t. It’s the Pont d’Alma.

        And Britannia. 🙂

        Neither Meghan nor Diana could ever have hoped to become a reigning monarch, though, any more than Prince Philip. Consorts are consorts; monarchs are monarchs.

        • Minnie Van Horne January 7, 2020 at 11:23 am #

          Oh my, today’s first appearance by the Grammar Gestapo.

          Now Minnie feels like that dear Ricky Gervais looking out over the crowd of bejeweled gilded luminaries at the Golden Globes — and then focusing on the sour green face of poor Tom Hanks suffering from an apparently terminal bout of constipation.

          • Majella January 7, 2020 at 3:53 pm #

            Poor Minnie…what a sad and ugly post.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 7, 2020 at 4:21 pm #

            Poor Maj – outshone by a Dutch-ess.

          • GreenAlba January 7, 2020 at 8:00 pm #

            Oh, dear. Minnie hasn’t got her sense of humour out today, has she? GA wouldn’t have bothered with the smiley if she’d realised not everyone was up to interpreting it. 🙂 🙂

            There wasn’t any grammar involved either. 🙂 🙂

          • GreenAlba January 7, 2020 at 8:22 pm #

            But I think GA’s going to colour Minnie very sour from now on. A lesson learned…

          • Minnie Van Horne January 7, 2020 at 8:39 pm #

            Dear Mr. Mejalla,

            Oh no, now Minnie feels terrible. Did you really think I was being unkind to poor Mr. Hanks? I assure you that was the farthest thing from my mind.

            Here’s what I suggest. Get onto Youtube and see if you can find the video of Mr. Gervais’ opening comments on the Golden Globes this past Sunday night. But let me warn you, he says some very saucy things!

            In any event, when the camera cuts from this naughty Australian chap to the beautiful, delightful people in the audience, you will notice something. While everyone else is smiling and gay, flaunting their shiny new teeth and their expensive breast augmentation, there is one thing that is not like the others. And that one thing is poor Mr. Hanks, who looks like he has not been able to vacate his bowels for a week at the very least.

            You may think that Minnie is exaggerating, but this is not, not, not the case. Perhaps there are some others here among Mr. Kunstler’s readership — some of the hipper and groovier ones (as the kids would say) — who, like Minnie, have an affinity for Hollywood. Maybe they will chime in here to vouch for what I have described. That would be lovely of them.

            In the meanwhile, I hope you are having a delightful evening, Mr. Mejalla, and I hope you are enjoying flawless digestion.

            Until next time, this is Minnie, over and out.

          • Majella January 8, 2020 at 10:48 am #

            Mr. Minnie

            Sorry – I should have been more specific. My objection was to the tortured way in which you denigrated the assassination of Soleimani with infantile references to the nature of his death by hellfire, reducing it to a sad ugly joke about pizza boxes, then doubling down with a reference to your sad ugly joke of a President offering a Tiffany gift box, on account of he lives next door.

            Say what you like aboutTom Hanks. In fact, I’m guessing it’s highly likely you’re in the “Tom Hanks is a paedophile” Conspiracy Nutjob Contingent, and you ONLY JUST resisted including that in your sad ugly post.

            Skorenzy, GFY, please.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2020 at 4:04 pm #

            Here Trigger – I have a cube of sugar for you!

        • Minnie Van Horne January 7, 2020 at 8:48 pm #

          Dear Mr. Alba,

          No worries, Minnie was not really annoyed with you earlier. You see, I am very accustomed to this sort of thing.

          For instance, my groundskeeper Lars is constantly correcting Minnie all the time about absolutely everything. We make sort of a game of it now, and it’s all in good fun.

          I sense that you, Mr. Alba, are just like Lars, and you simply want Minnie to be the best she can be. I will try my best to improve.

          Have a lovely evening!

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2020 at 6:14 am #

            Dear Ms Van Horne

            Minnie’s groundskeeper sounds really annoying, not at all the kind of person who just makes a joke about Autocarrot and points out, in that context, that Autocarrot has still got it wrong. And who might have made comments about disappearing drones in the Pont d’Alma but felt no need to.

            So I’ll stick with sour.

            And I hope that sour Minnie eventually gets to the stage where she can use the first person and stop talking like a five year old with an imaginary friend.

            I hope sour Minnie has a lovely evening too! If she can keep the passive-aggressive bile down.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 4:00 pm #

      Di looked terrible in middle age. They seldom age well (do I mean Whites or English or Women?) I’m surprised the Arab was interested. Or maybe it was her social position? No!

    • hmuller January 6, 2020 at 5:10 pm #

      Minnie, really now! Even if the general’s remains fit into a domino’s pizza box (with a side bag for the “mozzarella fingers”:) , you could hardly expect them to use such cheap packaging. Personally, I favor really upscale tupperware with the patented resealable “burp”.

      What ever happened to the burial at sea? When Osama bin Laden was taken down, the MSM told us Islamic law requires a really hasty burial at sea under such circumstances.

      • Minnie Van Horne January 6, 2020 at 9:01 pm #

        Mr. Muller, your suggestions are quite brilliant. A Domino’s box or a Tupperware container are both extremely practical and durable, and a godsend for those hoping to bury a loved one on a budget. So a big bravo for that. I think you could have a future in this industry — just a thought.

        In this one special case, though, I am going to be a stubborn Minnie and stick with my original little brainstorm. My thinking is that a Tiffany’s gift box beautifully expresses our beloved leader’s celebrated sense of fun. After all, it’s not for nothing that he was a hugely successful TV game show host for all those years, is it?

        Here is the little inside joke: Tiffany’s flagship store in New York sits cheek to cheek on Fifth Avenue with guess what? That’s right, Trump Tower! So those dearly bereaved mullahs in Tehran would be giving a stylish sendoff to the General in a box with essentially the same provenance as the cruise missile that blew him to teensy little pieces.

        Oh, what giddy fun it is to be alive in the Age of Trump! I think I’ll go whip up a nice toddy now.

    • elysianfield January 6, 2020 at 7:18 pm #

      “Anyway, color Minnie puzzled that they needed a full-size casket to contain the charred bits of the General they likely scraped from the twisted wreckage”

      Minnie.
      The answer is obviously that they got a deal on it…custom size coffins are really expensive.

      • hmuller January 6, 2020 at 8:01 pm #

        They could have used a pet coffin. But it would look tacky. And everyone would be asking, “Was he a midget?”

  32. bob January 6, 2020 at 3:13 pm #

    Thanks for your amazing analysis Jim bringing clarity to the quagmire.

  33. wpa_ccc January 6, 2020 at 3:26 pm #

    ”I think many who would have voted for Trump’s re-election have now decided to just stay home in November. Who needs another war monger for President??” —abbybwood

    Yes, first they gave their votes to Trump. Now Trump will send their sons and daughters to die in the middle east in another endless war.

    • Tate January 6, 2020 at 3:42 pm #

      “Now Trump will send their sons and daughters to die in the middle east in another endless war.”

      I doubt it. Trump’s trying to thread a needle. His instincts are good. He’s a kind of idiot, true, but not of the caliber of Shrub.

      • Nightowl January 6, 2020 at 4:15 pm #

        Not a chance. No one would have dared to do what Trump is doing at present. He is superficially dislikable, but has it where it counts.

        • K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 9:32 pm #

          “Fools rush in where angels fear to tread”

          • K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 9:32 pm #

            The phrase, in full or in part, has been used multiple times since 1711

          • Nightowl January 7, 2020 at 3:47 am #

            WWIII is not coming, despite what CNN claims.

  34. Yukon Tom January 6, 2020 at 5:18 pm #

    Iran pulled many a prank…Lets check the facts. A major Saudi oil terminal was attacked by Yemen. Usless American sailors (spies) were inside Iranian territorial waters (like to see how Israel or the US would react with a scenario where Iranian sailors were near US or Israeli military facilities.) Iran shot down drones over their airspace. I guess someone forgot to tell them about American Exceptionalism. Oil tankers were seized in gulf only after UK seized an Iranian oil tanker on its way to eastern Mediterranean. Some of those tankers were smuggling Iranian oil.

    The monkey business you refer to involved Iran training local forces in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon to fight and defeat ISIS and Al Qaeda, who have been armed trained and paid to overthrow the governments of Iraq, Lebanon and Syria by US and friends. Perhaps you are confusing the monkey business that the US and Israel have been undertaking, like bombing those forces of the Iraq and Syrian government that have been fighting ISIS and Al Qaeda.

    Haven’t seen much, if any serious involvement in Libya. General Suleimani was on a diplomatic mission at the request of the US when he was flying in to Baghdad that fateful day. He was carrying a letter from the King of Saudi Arabia to the Iraq Prime Minister, as was disclosed by the Iraqi Prime Minister before the vote in the Iraq parliament that passed demanding the US and NATO friends pack and leave. So the US sets up the assassination of a diplomat and kills a leading Iraqi military leader, both who were key in defeating ISIS and Al Qaeda. General Suleimani was also in Iraq to attend the funerals of 31 Iraqi military personal murdered by US airstrikes a few days earlier.

    So remind me again who are the crazy ones here? Pence blames Suleimani for aiding the attackers on 911. Trump threatens 52 cultural sites in Iran will be destroyed, just one potential war crime of many he has tweeted. Trump threatens Iraq with sanctions like they have never seen. Trouble is, they have seen sanctions, with US SOS Madeleine Albright stating the cost of 500,000 dead children in Iraq was worth the price. That ranks right up there with the destruction of Libya and Clinton We came, We say, he died and that horrible laughter. Now that is monkey business writ large. Libya was the wealthiest State in Africa until NATO destroyed it over lies, turning it into hell with slave markets.

    Trump has done the world a favour. US will be out of the ME allowing the locals to sort things out without that shining city on a hill stirring up trouble and “monkey business”. Israel will have to come to terms with the new reality. I expect a lot of dual citizens in Occupied Palestine to GTFO. Perhaps that shining city will be busy with impeaching Trump and his cabinet for war crimes. They certainly have left a wealth of evidence in their twitter accounts. After all, when Trump loses Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc somebody will have to be the fall guy. A lot of troughs will dry up and the pigs wont be too pleased.

    • Majella January 8, 2020 at 10:57 am #

      Tom

      Thanks for a comprehensive yet concise summation.

  35. Pucker January 6, 2020 at 5:19 pm #

    I don’t know anything about Iran, albeit they do seem to have an interesting ancient religion in Zoroasterism.

    • K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 11:53 pm #

      I had a friend from Iran once. He was pissed that people here did not know about Persians and that we thought people in Iran were the same as Arabs here. He was so hotheaded that I myself saw similarities, but I kept quiet. Had veins popping out of his neck when he was pissed he did.

      He claimed Persians were more civilized than Americans. Always would talk about the Persian Empire and somebody named Darius. But no matter how hard he tried to talk about anything else, he always wound up ranting about how America was fucked up and how ignorant we are here. A one trick pony. It pissed me off. I wanted to shake him and say ‘Dude you are IN America. Stop that shit.

      • Majella January 8, 2020 at 10:59 am #

        Surely, K-dog, you’re not projecting the fact that the one Iranian you’ve met was an arsehole into ALL Iranians being arseholes?

  36. Pucker January 6, 2020 at 5:20 pm #

    Hanson refers to a ubiquitous “Know Nothingism” and to the absence of basic historical and cultural literacy.

    Victor Davis Hanson: The New Dark Age

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=a2cQtVX9aUo

  37. dolph9 January 6, 2020 at 5:28 pm #

    How is Trump working out for you guys now? Told you he was a stooge. Did you listen? No.

    Hope you enjoy your war with Iran. I mean, did you rednecks not understand you are just cannon fodder?

    WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, now Iran. Didn’t you guys understand your job is to go out their and die to make the world safe for the profits of international banks and corporations? Do you really think Gates and Buffet and Bezos and Musk care about your pickup truck and gun and shitty job in your shitty nowheresville town in flyover country? Didn’t you get the memo that you are as replaceable as any negro or mexican.

    Oh, sorry, did I touch a nerve. Oh, I didn’t know Jesus approves of American empire. Forget that he lived and died 2000 years ago, he is watching and protecting over you. And Moses too. Watching over America and Israel, the two essential nations. All the other 7 billion people can just go starve and die, right.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 5:50 pm #

      You’d prefer all seven billion to invade the West and starve us too. Everyone in the water. Capsize the lifeboats. Equality at last!

      • K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 9:35 pm #

        Still painting by numbers you are. If you were really paying attention you would know the number is closer to 8.

    • malthuss January 6, 2020 at 11:37 pm #

      yawn

    • Nightowl January 7, 2020 at 3:48 am #

      A word salad of college-kid liberal snark.

      LOL.

  38. Iananna January 6, 2020 at 5:38 pm #

    One unexpected (?) result of the current kerfuffle in the ME will be the rising price of oil taking the shale gambit slightly closer to being profitable.
    After all, didn’t it get its initial take off boost when the price hit $120pb?

    A price rise will also benefit Russia, one of the world’s major exporters as well as that little country on the north western bump of SA, can’t quite recall its name – y’know where various attempted coups in the last 12 months orchestrated from Langley VA have failed so miserably.

    Gold is now surging (up $300 p oz in less than a year are a decade bumping around $1,200) as the smart money decides that the Bourses are a bad bet – how long before Lockheed & other manufacturers & merchants of death see their shares rise?

    Yay for 2020, we shall certainly be living in Interesting Times.

  39. Pucker January 6, 2020 at 5:40 pm #

    I wonder if my Wife would be “Cool” with me pretending that I’m a “Good Guy” while dressing up everyday as a Na…zi and going to work in a “Camp” to oversee mass extermination as long as it’s a “Good Job” and I bring-home-the-bacon?

    I like the part of the Victor Davis Hanson interview linked to below in which he describes how people knowingly lie and pretend that the Michael Brown case involves a bad faith false narrative because it serves a politically expedient purpose.

    Hanson refers to a ubiquitous “Know Nothingism” and to the absence of basic historical and cultural literacy.

    Victor Davis Hanson: The New Dark Age

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=a2cQtVX9aUo

    • Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 5:53 pm #

      I like this Victor who has Overcome! To become or even just be born, one must destroy a world. The world is just an egg. Freed, one can then fly to God. The name of that God is Abraxis, and he is both a god and a devil.

    • K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 9:27 pm #

      Ask her if 401 K matching contributions would make a difference. It may.

      what does Ferguson mean it means really that Michael Brown went into a liquor store tried to rob it and did robbed it and then walked under the influence down the wrong right in the middle of the street until he was stopped by an officer whose gun you tried to lunge at tried to take and then he ran away then he turned around in charged and he was shot and that’s not my view that’s the view of the Eric Holder Justice Department okay

      Do you mean that part?

  40. Pucker January 6, 2020 at 5:58 pm #

    US university professor, Victor Davis Hanson, says that most American high school students have never heard of the Battle of Gettysburg. These are kids admitted into college and university. Hanson says that they lack basic historical and cultural literacy. He also says that Americans today manifest a blatant bad faith disregard for Reality and historical fact in favor of bad faith dishonest narratives that “Feel Good” and serve a politically expedient narrative. How is this possible? It’s very tota…litarian. Scary….

    Victor Davis Hanson: The New Dark Age

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=a2cQtVX9aUo

    • malthuss January 7, 2020 at 4:17 pm #

      many are yellow, brown, black, mixed…why would they care?

      theres a great quote in a Buchanon or brimelow book—

      I dont care about thanksgiving, Im from Lebabon.

  41. Pucker January 6, 2020 at 6:10 pm #

    Get Forrest to march off of the cliff. It’s ok because Gump is so Fuck’n Lucky, and there are never any consequences for being “Stupid”.

    All that you need to do is to pretend and to be politically correct….

    “Stupid is as Stupid does.”

  42. Janos Skorenzy January 6, 2020 at 6:26 pm #

    Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globes – Yahoo Entertainment

    “This is the last time I’m hosting these awards,” Ricky Gervais said moments after taking the stage at the 77th Golden Globe Awards for his fifth hosting gig. Based on the audience reaction to his bridge-burning, F-bomb-laden monologue, this might be the last time he’s allowed in Hollywood… let alone at the Hollywood Foreign Press Association’s annual shindig. The mood in the room was essentially summed up by everyone’s favorite L.A. neighbor Tom Hanks — this year’s recipient of the HFPA’s Cecil B. DeMille Award — whose face displayed an expression of shock and disgust every time the cameras found him in the crowd.

    If Gervais, who took to the stage with a full glass of beer, noticed Hanks giving him the stinkeye, it didn’t stop the host from going for the jugular. He also didn’t apologize for any of his jokes, including the seemingly transphobic tweets he made on Twitter before the ceremony. Questionable Twitter habits, of course, are what cost Kevin Hart his hosting spot at last year’s Oscar ceremony, and Gervais gave the almost-host a shoutout. “Kevin Hart was fired from the Oscars because of some offensive tweets,” he said, before going on to draw a distinction with his own situation. “The HFPA can barely speak English. They barely know what Twitter is! I got the offer by fax. Remember, they’re just jokes. We’re all going to die soon, and there’s no sequel.”

    One of those jokes that noticeably raised Hanks’s ire was Gervais’s suggestion that the license plate on his HFPA-hired limo was made by Felicity Huffman during her brief prison stay after she was swept up in the college admissions scandal. “It’s her daughter I feel sorry for,” Gervais said, shushing the room. “That must be the most embarrassing thing that’s ever happened to her. And her dad was in Wild Hogs.”

    Gervais proved anything but embarrassed as he continued to call out the rich and famous on their privileged lifestyle. “If you do win an award tonight, don’t use it as a political platform to make a political speech,” he warned. “You’re in no position to lecture the public about anything, you know nothing about the real world. Most of you spent less time in school than Greta Thunberg. So, if you win, come up, accept your little award, thank your agent and your God and f*** off. OK?”

    Of course, that rule didn’t apply to the host himself, who took more than a few potshots at current political events. “In this room are some of the most important TV and film executives in the world, and they all have one thing in common: They’re all terrified of Ronan Farrow,” Gervais said, referring to the journalist whose reporting has helped bring down such Hollywood titans as Harvey Weinstein and Les Moonves. Meanwhile, tech world titan, Tim Cook, looked on stone-faced as Gervais praised Apple TV+’s marquee series The Morning Show as a “superb drama about the importance of dignity and doing the right thing made by a company who owns sweatshops in China. You say you’re woke but the companies you work for — Apple, Amazon, Disney — if ISIS started a streaming service, you would call your agent, wouldn’t you?”

    Gervais didn’t leave his own employer, Netflix, out of his streaming service broadside. “You could binge-watch the entire first season of After Life and it’s still more fun than this,” he said, referring to his most recent series about a man who contemplates suicide after his wife dies. “Season 2 is on the way, so in the end he obviously didn’t kill himself — just like Jeffrey Epstein. I know he’s your friend, but I don’t care!”

    Even as he spent much of his monologue stoking Hollywood’s ire, he did pick one topic everyone in the room could agree on: the craziness that was Universal’s mega-bomb musical, Cats. “The world got to see James Corden as fat p****. He was also in the movie Cats, but nobody saw that! And the reviews! I saw one that said ‘This is the worst thing to happen to cats since dogs.’ But Dame Judi Dench defended the film, saying it was the role she was born to play.” At that point, Gervais arrived at a joke that even he wasn’t sure he could deliver. And, in fact, the audience at home didn’t hear it at all, since NBC hit the “bleep” button with extreme force. But here’s the line, direct from Yahoo Entertainment’s reporter in the room: “Because she loves nothing better than plunking herself down on the carpet, lifting her leg and and licking her own minge.”

    We’re guessing that Tom Hanks still hasn’t gotten over that yet.

    JS: He told the real Truth but not the whole Truth. Hope he gets a next time to tell the rest of the story. After that he can emmigrate to Iran.

    • BackRowHeckler January 6, 2020 at 6:53 pm #

      No sh#t, huh?

      Maybe I’ll start watching these ass kissing Hollywood awards shows again.

      I see the film ‘1917’ won an award. Brits rediscovering their own history instead of slandering and belittling everything that happened from when the Roman’s departed in 388 to when the Rolling Stones showed up in 1964.

      Brh

    • elysianfield January 6, 2020 at 7:25 pm #

      Janos,
      Well, Gervais is/was Australian…apparently they have not been entirely neutered.

      Good on ya…Ozy, Ozy, Ozy!

      • Nightowl January 7, 2020 at 3:53 am #

        He is from the UK, not Aust.

        Very funny guy and one of the few to stand up to the prog. PC nonsense that has destroyed the comedy world. Other notables are John Cleese and Terry Giliam.

        I still love the UK version of The Office.

        • elysianfield January 7, 2020 at 11:58 am #

          Owl,
          English yes…his accent, to my ear, sounds Australian. I stand corrected.

          • GreenAlba January 7, 2020 at 1:25 pm #

            Estuary English can be confusing to those not closely familiar with it, possibly. There are differential diagnoses, to the untuned ear. 🙂

          • Majella January 7, 2020 at 3:59 pm #

            “English accent” as such, doesn’t exist aside perhaps from “Received BBC”, which is the plummy one as spoken by HRH Chaz & HRM Liz2.

      • malthuss January 7, 2020 at 4:18 pm #

        gay

    • akmofo January 6, 2020 at 8:14 pm #

      Dedicated to Ricky Gervais and President Trump

      The Agami Brothers – Hero

      youtu.be/ePOj7Gc5lik

    • Pucker January 6, 2020 at 8:35 pm #

      Ricky Gervais is a “Hero”. I appreciate what he said about those crappy Marvel comic book hero movies.

  43. doggersize January 6, 2020 at 6:55 pm #

    I can’t picture Iran doing any of this stuff. at most they were cooperating with Iraq to fight Islamic Extremists in parts of iraq and syria. America does not want Iraq and Iran to cooperate with each other.

  44. toktomi January 6, 2020 at 10:28 pm #

    Stir up a little military mumbo jumbo to get all of the props in place for the EMP Attack scene. I really can’t imagine why “they” bother to put on this theatre; the gutless US public doesn’t give two shits beyond insipid remarks of faux outrage about anything as long as their bellies are full. The masses are good for one thing; consuming expendable supplies. And they are a threat to no one and need to be catered to by no one.

    Just hack the grid, for cripes sake, and say [Assange did it – not], “You’re fired.”

    Good night, Gracie.

    ~toktomi~

  45. JohnAZ January 6, 2020 at 10:54 pm #

    Tate

    Yes, early Boomer and proud of it.

    And by the way, Hitler would have lived in Iran and Chamberlain would have played Nancy Pelosi/Chuck Schumer.

  46. K-Dog January 6, 2020 at 11:26 pm #

    The acting Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi addressed Parliament with a recommendation U.S. troops be removed from Iraq. Abdul-Mahdi revealed Soleimani had traveled to Baghdad to deliver a message from Iran to Saudi Arabia about a proposal to lower tensions in the region.

    Soleimani was to meet with the Prime Minister the morning he was assassinated, and days prior Trump had asked the Iraqi Prime Minister to “play the mediator’s role” between the U.S. and Iran.

    Adil Abdul-Mahd got played. He’s not happy about it.

    And that other guy who got smoked. Also very popular. More popular in his country than Trump is here.

    • BackRowHeckler January 7, 2020 at 5:55 am #

      So.

      What is this a popularity contest? Where are we Junior High School?

      • GreenAlba January 7, 2020 at 7:16 am #

        We seem to be at the University of Deliberately Missing the Point, brh.

      • GreenAlba January 7, 2020 at 7:24 am #

        And Boris Johnson is finding out that abandoning the less war-mongering EU for the more war-mongering US isn’t going to be the panacea a lot of his voters thought they’d voted for. Narrow tightrope Boris is walking at the moment. He doesn’t want to annoy his new best friend but Pompeo is very disappointed with the lack of enthusiasm of America’s allies in Europe, including, in particular, its very own special-relationship poodle. And deals coming down the road. Oh dear. The narrow tightrope gets narrower. Good job Boris is a known man of principle. Oh, wait…

        • BackRowHeckler January 7, 2020 at 8:52 am #

          Who’s war mongering? Our embassy was attacked, and the attack was organized by Salami and his illegal Quds force. What, they don’t expect any response? Their side needs to suffer casualties too, not just our side. Don’t you agree?

          Brh

          • GreenAlba January 7, 2020 at 9:03 am #

            The description ‘war mongering’ was not limited to the present moment, brh, but to your recent history in Iraq, just for starters, in which the UK government of the time, under the iniquitous Tony Blair, shamefully added our troops. Tony Blair, who now mysteriously gets massively lucrative contracts all over the shop for whatever his massively mysterious companies offer to the world.

            Maybe he wasn’t promised anything at all for helping Bush the Smaller. Maybe that’s just one of those conspiracy theory thingies. What would I know?

            The history of the current animosity goes back to 1953 and beyond, as others have ably pointed out. The US is like a playground bully who gets peeved when he gets hit back and squeals about reprisals. The history of your country and mine in the region has NOTHING noble to recommend it. And people have long memories.

          • benr January 7, 2020 at 12:36 pm #

            @ga

            Odd you are leaving out the simple fact this region has been in turmoil since well mankind figured out how to make war.

            Nothing new here just different players fighting for different reasons.
            If the US had never existed you would still have muslims murdering or enslaving anyone not in lockstep with their belief system.

          • GreenAlba January 7, 2020 at 12:51 pm #

            It’s not odd at all, benr, it’s just pretty irrelevant to anything to do with the US/UK and Iran now or in the recent past, since if you go back not even that far there was no US, a bit further back no UK, a good bit further back no Muslims, and even further back no Persia.

            How far do we need to go back?Homo sapiens is a primate and primates are fighty creatures. Recent history in the region is enough to be going on with, in terms of decision-making and political judgements. ‘Recent’ may be defined according to taste.

            The UK was in there for its own opportunistic reasons before the US, so you don’t need to feel excessively judged for events in 1953. And neither you nor I were involved so we don’t need to take it personally either. But we might end up involved now, although it is to be hoped not.

          • akmofo January 7, 2020 at 2:02 pm #

            You’re being naive Mrs Green. Iranian Jihadists (and you/westerns need to listen closely to what Jihadists say and understand their ideology, and not dismiss it cavalierly as you did such with Hitler’s Nazis), with Russian or Chinese/NorKor nukes and missiles is a recipe for genocide, including possibly yours in the “safety” of Scotland. I realize this is above your callous expertise, but that’s why you pay taxes to those that know better and can see a few steps ahead.

          • akmofo January 7, 2020 at 2:24 pm #

            Btw, Mrs Green, there are “Arab” voices in our region that already are saying that the region inherited a very bad set of books that need to be completely scrapped (referring to the Jihadists scriptures) and that it’s time that the people of the region entered the 21st century. So instead of carrying water for Jihadists of various flavors as you mindlessly and constantly do, maybe, just maybe, you should instead add your support to this current political minority and their revolutionary aspiration for change? What do you think, Mrs Green?

          • GreenAlba January 7, 2020 at 2:48 pm #

            What I think, akmofo, is that you are talking nonsense about what I said.

            My opinion of Jihadists, per se is pretty much the same as most other non-Jihadists (including Muslim non-Jihadists).

            “Btw, Mrs Green, there are “Arab” voices in our region that already are saying that the region inherited a very bad set of books that need to be completely scrapped (referring to the Jihadists scriptures) and that it’s time that the people of the region entered the 21st century. ”

            Absolutely. More power to their elbow. As I have constantly said (even SSL will back me up on that one.)

          • akmofo January 7, 2020 at 3:15 pm #

            I don’t think I’m talking nonsense about what you said. Your cynical hostility to US and UK involvement in our region is misplaced. The UK and the US have had a VERY positive role in the region. Even though it was/is thoroughly intertwined with their selfish self-interests, the US and the UK brought and are bringing needed change for the better in the region. Their opposition to Russian/Chinese/Iranian totalitarian expansion is just the tip of the iceberg of the positive things they are doing in the region. The US’ and UK’s support for Israel is providing the currently Jihadi-oppressed people of the region a shining and exemplary example of what Freedom and Democracy can accomplish for a people. Israel today is the absolute example which every society in our region secretly and now even publicly envies and wishes to emulate. The Kurds in Syria and Iraq are already well on their way, and others are now incubating these ideals within their intellectual class. Even in Iran, the vast majority does not wish to be ruled over by the Mullahs and many Iranians are secretly celebrating at home the assassination of that arch-terrorist taken out by the US over the weekend.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 7, 2020 at 4:25 pm #

            No more Wars for Israel. Let them finally get what they have coming to them.

          • akmofo January 7, 2020 at 4:57 pm #

            Speaking of projecting..

            I had to chuckle when I read what you just wrote, Jan. Like I said before, YeHeVeH has a sense of humor, but karma does not. I think you already know what’s waiting for you. Enjoy.

    • JohnAZ January 7, 2020 at 9:46 am #

      Let me guess. You got this info from the MSM.

      After years of bombing SA, arming Hezbollah, killing ISIS, killing American troops in Iraq, etc., this man is a peacemaker.

      Pardon my skepticism.

      • JohnAZ January 7, 2020 at 10:25 am #

        Pompeo just denied the whole thing, calling it Iranian propaganda that they have tried before.

      • K-Dog January 7, 2020 at 1:03 pm #

        The gruesome horror of self defense. Tell us more.

        Yes, peace with Syria with Assad back in charge and all those billions of American dollars spent arming the northern opposition and training them in Turkey. Down the tubes.

        Having Bonesaw make a few concessions was also not going to happen. That is not prat of the Fascism Lite agenda.

        I can’t pardon the skepticism because all you are trying to do here is cultivate hate with your comment. My question would be why, but knowing I won’t get a straight answer I won’t ask it.

  47. Pucker January 6, 2020 at 11:37 pm #

    America is fracturing….

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=h1o4BAyd7GU

    • akmofo January 7, 2020 at 12:01 am #

      It’s the natural way of empires. The US will be no different than the UK, the EU, Canada, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Russia, China, and a hundred other lesser empires. Empires always fail because what holds them together is falsehood greed brute force and central control by a gov mafia, in other words, pure evil.

      • JohnAZ January 7, 2020 at 9:51 am #

        Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

        What we are observing is the failure of the US Constitution to control the power battles in Washington. Why? Because the real power right now is uniparty due to the formation of the Deep State over the past sixty years. The change?

        JFK. The ascent of the Deep State.

        • akmofo January 7, 2020 at 11:29 am #

          Culture dictates politics. Change the culture and you will change the politics. Start by making reading and studying the Hebrew Bible mandatory for all grade schools and higher education, and end all gov mafia subsidies to Commie/Jihadi indoctrination schools/colleges/universities.

          • SoftStarLight January 7, 2020 at 11:41 am #

            In other words….become absorbed by Greater Israel and erase Christ and Christianity.

          • akmofo January 7, 2020 at 11:57 am #

            @SoftStarLight

            What’s greater Israel? And what does Christ and Christianity have to do with Romanism?

          • akmofo January 7, 2020 at 12:05 pm #

            Btw, SoftStarLight, I like that you tacitly admit that the Commie/Jihadi indoctrination of schools/colleges/universities is a Vatican project, because it also admits that commie/jihadi gov mafia subsidizing it is that of the Vatican.

          • SoftStarLight January 7, 2020 at 2:17 pm #

            So mentioning Christ and Christianity did get your attention. Good! I don’t even disagree with you that there is Communist or Progressive indoctrination, as well as Islamic indoctrination taking place within schools here in the US for sure. But a direct link to the Vatican? I don’t know that. Seems like the Catholic Church is doing well enough to keep its doors open at this point but maybe you do know something I don’t. But on the Greater Israel question. Do you really question your own power? I rather think you are simply being sly.

          • akmofo January 7, 2020 at 2:49 pm #

            You don’t that?!! Go and look at the Vatican’s web sites! Go visit their schools and universities and see what’s taught there. It is a complete Copy & Paste of every SJW commie globalist agenda.

            My own power? .. and you are mortally terrified of my Godly power because… because.. because you are a Roman Satanist?

          • Janos Skorenzy January 7, 2020 at 4:27 pm #

            You are projecting your own terror of Christ onto SSL and then calling her a “Romanist Satanist”.

          • akmofo January 7, 2020 at 4:47 pm #

            Jan,
            The only feeling I have towards Romanism is that of total disgust for its disgustingly vile history, everything it is and everything it represents.

          • SoftStarLight January 8, 2020 at 1:06 am #

            Projecting indeed! I interacted with you for three seconds and you’re back to accusing me of Satanism and having clandestine backchannels to the Papacy. My original question to you was a simple response to your assertion that the Hebrew Bible should be mandatory study for all students. I therefore concluded that your intention was the erasure of Jesus from our memories. Why you ask? Because the Hebrew Bible specifically does not include the New Testament. So Messiah no more because you are saying he is yet to come. But I wanted you to tell me that. So, understood! Romanists and Romanism are your code words for Whites and European Culture/Christianity.

          • akmofo January 8, 2020 at 7:56 am #

            I asked you if you are a Vatican Satanist, there was a question mark there. I notice you didn’t answer, so I take it that you are. And of-course you are, as you worship Caesar as God, you just call him Pontus Maximus, aka, Pope.

            The Hebrew Bible is the human software that makes the Vatican and its brainless drones extinct. That’s why the Vatican avoids and discourages its reading by its followers. Whites will be fine without the Vatican, in fact, better then fine.

      • K-Dog January 7, 2020 at 1:06 pm #

        Ok I give. When did Canada have an empire? Libya?

        • akmofo January 7, 2020 at 1:33 pm #

          “Canada” became an Empire from its first days (just like the US). From the first days when the British Army and English settlers in “Ontario” first took over native aboriginal lands, then forcibly subdued the French imperialists/colonialists in Quebec, then incorporated Quebec and the Western territories, and so on. Call it confederation or what you will, it is imperialism by other words.

          Libya, and really the whole MIddle East with very few exceptions, is composed of multiple competing tribes that the Europeans forced together under European imperialism/colonialism. The Europeans did this throughout the Middle East to extract wealth from the place via installed cooperative autocratic governments. Without the dictators/terrorists to hold these mini Empires (European colonies) together, the natural tribal culture of the people will dissolve these artificial western political constructs, as we clearly see.

          • JohnAZ January 7, 2020 at 3:02 pm #

            Well said!

            Europe tried to put together a European style governmental system after WW1.

            And really mucked it up. Age old enemies thrown together arbitrarily. And you are right, the whole mess held together by a series of strongmen. And then, stupidly, we take out the strongmen and scratch our heads when the area Balkanizes.

            Dumb.

            Just as dumb as not recognizing that the same thing is happening right here thanks to diversification. When the US splits, all the Deep Stare idiots will say,

            Wha’ happened?

            The difference is that diversification was forced on the ME by Europeans and then the attempted unifications have failed. In the US, a relatively uniform society was diversified by force internally and then will fail in the future for the same reasons.

            They had it forced on themselves, we did it to ourselves.

            Who is dumbest?

          • akmofo January 7, 2020 at 4:41 pm #

            Balkanization is good. These people are now at peace.

            Local government is what it’s all about. I understand this, JHK understands this, and I would think everyone reading this blog site understands this.

            Regards the US, the founding documents are precious, representing the height of enlightenment thinking in opposition to the Vatican’s Dark Ages, oppression, inquisitions, political terror, continental and cross-continental wars. But the Vatican did not sit still. It never does sit still. The Vatican and its perverse agents have corrupted this precious project in self-government almost from the start. The United States needs to become a plural noun again, with some States to be further subdivided.

            This can’t happen as long as the Vatican other anti-enlightenment projects are still an ongoing concern. These are the Commie EU, Russia, and China. These need to be dissolved first. China and Russia were already on their deathbed, but of-course the Vatican mafia financially resuscitated them with the aid of Wall Street, Silicon Valley, and the CIA.

          • SoftStarLight January 8, 2020 at 1:29 am #

            Um, hold up one second! Did you literally say that Balkanization is good? These people are now at peace? And furthermore Mr. K and most people here would easily understand this? I am not going to speak for anyone but myself but I have never perceived that Mr. K thinks Balkanization is a good thing. Now on the other hand, Mr. K often cites the dire need for a common, shared culture. And I agree. The idea of smaller states with more accountable and local goverments is attractive. But, for true peace, it would be best that the smaller states be culturally and racially homogenous.

          • akmofo January 8, 2020 at 7:26 am #

            Balkanization Is the Vatican mafia propaganda term for Localization. When you’re a globalist imperialist with an agenda of World Government like the Vatican, any process that deconstructs this imperialist New World order agenda is derided as bad. Some are stupid enough to be taken by this Vatican/MSM propaganda, I suppose you’re one of them.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2020 at 12:28 pm #

            Palestine must be returned to the natives – the Arabs in other words. Jews may be allowed to stay if they are Arab Jews, as long as they don’t cause trouble. Ashkenazis must return to their homeland of Khazaria – if the current nations in that area will have them.

          • akmofo January 8, 2020 at 1:34 pm #

            Keep recycling your Vatican Jihadi propaganda. We already know where it all originated. You’ve been exposed Vatican Nazis! We now know who the real enemy is.

  48. SoftStarLight January 7, 2020 at 2:54 am #

    In a dark sort of way it’s humorous to think that the visible players in this deadly game of chess are no players at all, but merely chess pieces themselves. The real players are invisible. Most of the time. Out of sight, out of mind. Who is really benefiting? Conflict and flights to safety always seem to make a very few some people rich. It always comes back to all those simple and elaborate frauds, swindles, and rackets. Their actions have changed our focus and our conversation. Meanwhile they are staring at their goal and prize with complete focus and intention and are setting up the board as we type. They’ve been doing this very thing for a long time.

  49. MontanaMan January 7, 2020 at 7:48 am #

    Hundreds and hundreds of comments. And the vast majority are all based on frothy emotional appeal. That’s it. Very few are based on any actual facts, actual data, statistics, and or empirical evidence. Skimming the comments in here sounds like the squealing bitching and moaning out of a sorority house.

    • GreenAlba January 7, 2020 at 8:53 am #

      “Hundreds and hundreds of comments.”

      Since at this actual moment there are 237 comments, I think maybe that qualifies as squealing, bitching and moaning rather than actual facts, data or statistics.

      We can allow you 200 as ‘hundreds’. But only one set of ‘hundreds’.

      ‘Hundreds and hundreds’ would require at least 400.

      So yeah, quite frothy and emotional. And adding no light whatsoever. Or empirical evidence, or indeed any facts.

      • malthuss January 7, 2020 at 9:10 am #

        ‘Hundreds and hundreds’ would require at least 400.

        –why?

        • GreenAlba January 7, 2020 at 9:28 am #

          Are you serious, malthuss?

        • elysianfield January 7, 2020 at 11:52 am #

          Malthuss,
          …Add the two plurals.

          • malthuss January 7, 2020 at 4:19 pm #

            150+ 150?

          • elysianfield January 7, 2020 at 6:13 pm #

            Malthuss,
            Exactly! …if 150 can be considered “hundreds”….

    • K-Dog January 7, 2020 at 12:49 pm #

      And you have your own emotional appeal based on your ‘facts’. Three fingers point back at you.

      By the way, some of us think that murder by drone is more than a frothy emotion. That no American abroad can now feel safe is also more than frothy.

  50. SoftStarLight January 7, 2020 at 9:41 am #

    And while everyone is focused on whose stick is bigger in the graveyard of nations 18 of 27 GOP governors enthusiastically embrace refugee resettlement and Democrats in Virginia try to do everything in their power to ban ammunition and private gun ranges. Yes, terrorists dwell all over the Earth. They also dwell within the beating heart of the “nation” and come in many domestic flavors too! Btw, did you know that Lisa Page’s mom is Iranian? Maybe it’s just a simple factoid but it is interesting. Iranians have actually deeply penetrated pretty much all the organs of government here in the US. Like the Chinese and many others. Hey, we are an “open and free” society so please come on over and set up shop and make some money! Remember the Iranian Valerie Jarret? Wow, she sure has made lots of money!

    • JohnAZ January 7, 2020 at 10:30 am #

      The heart of the Deep State bureaucracy in DC is anti-American. No matter what Trump does in response to an issue, ie Iran, the DS will take the opposite. Remember two months ago when they were clobbering him for moving troops out of harm’s way in Syria.

      Hypocrites!

      • SoftStarLight January 7, 2020 at 11:51 am #

        If we are truly besieged by enemies foreign and domestic then Trump missed his opportunity to do something real and lasting about it. Thus what choice do we have at this point but to either believe he is a willing or unwilling pawn of the Elite, or believe he is simply one of them altogether and just told us what we wanted to hear on the campaign trail. It is frustrating and angering but at this point its basically water under the bridge because any real solution is beyond political at this point. If Trump’s presidency has done anything it has informed the masses (those who are paying attention) that there is no such thing as a government of the people, for the people, by the people. Either it was always a quaint and cute little myth or it was stolen from us long ago. And if you already knew that before now then good for you but some people are younger and trying to catch up.

        • JohnAZ January 7, 2020 at 3:07 pm #

          Lincoln

          A house divided cannot stand.

          Hence the Civil War.

          Move to the present

          Ditto!

          • malthuss January 7, 2020 at 4:19 pm #

            fuck that war monger..he was gay as well.

      • Majella January 7, 2020 at 5:56 pm #

        JohnAZ

        “Remember two months ago when they were clobbering him for moving troops out of harm’s way in Syria.

        Hypocrites!”

        Please, JohnAZ. You’re bleating like these two actions are the same (which they are only in that they both objectively diminish US national security) and that criticizing both is ‘hypocritical’.

        The actual hypocrite is the guy who supported the withdrawal of troops from Syria as being a move to ‘get out’ of the endless ME quagmire AND THEN still finds it possible to praise Himself for doing the exact opposite. This extra-legal assassination is NOT getting the US out of the quagmire at all – quite the opposite. And you know it. How do you sleep at night?

        Interestingly, I see the Sec of Defense has stated that the DoD will NOT obey any orders to hit targets that would qualify as war crimes. Is he a treasonous arsehole now? Himself has yet to pronounce, though he did comprehensively defy what Pompeo said about the matter…the usual tweet-spew doubling down on his crazy threats.

      • Nightowl January 8, 2020 at 4:21 am #

        The power structure you speak of is globalist/corporatist.

        And it isn’t just anti-American, one of its aims is to destroy the concept of the national sovereignty.

        • SoftStarLight January 8, 2020 at 9:56 am #

          Agreed. I referenced things they are doing here domestically in the US however I know they are operating this way throughout the West, and thus most Western countries are in the throes of dealing with significant and powerful political factions that want all borders erased and all sense of identity and culture eliminated.

  51. wwg1wga January 7, 2020 at 12:38 pm #

    **************************
    ROAST WELL DONE!
    got-truth.com/docs/ROAST%20WELL%20DONE.pdf

    Q.

  52. K-Dog January 7, 2020 at 12:52 pm #

    Only honorable thing now would be for Trump to take one for the team. But that thing about the buck stopping here.

    Not on his desk.

    • BackRowHeckler January 7, 2020 at 3:16 pm #

      Iranians have found out there’s a new sherriff in town. And this one isn’t delivering $150 billion in cash flown in on a C-47. No, he’s delivering a hellfire missile. What a surprise!

      Brh

      • Majella January 7, 2020 at 5:57 pm #

        Again about the money, which was Iranian money seized by the US. Giving back what was theirs in the first place, it was.

        • Nightowl January 8, 2020 at 4:23 am #

          This seems like the sort of thing one might have hard evidence for.

          You wouldn’t leave us hanging, right?

          • Majella January 9, 2020 at 5:42 pm #

            Of course not!

            nytimes.com/2020/01/08/us/politics/trump-fact-check.html

            “WHAT MR. TRUMP SAID

            “Iran’s hostilities substantially increased after the foolish Iran nuclear deal was signed in 2013, and they were given $150 billion, not to mention $1.8 billion in cash.”

            This is misleading. The agreement reached by Iran, the United States and a number of other nations to constrain Tehran’s nuclear program did not directly provide American money to Iran, but it did release about $100 billion in previously frozen Iranian assets. Much of the amount was tied up by debt obligations, for example, $20 billion to China for financing projects in Iran. Estimates for the actual amount available to Iran range from $35 billion to $65 billion.

            A separate $1.7 billion transfer of cash to Iran was to settle a decades-long dispute and was agreed to in negotiations that happened parallel to the nuclear deal. Before the 1979 revolution, Iran’s shah had paid $400 million for American military goods but, after he was overthrown, the equipment was never delivered. The clerics who seized control demanded the money back, but the United States refused. The additional $1.3 billion is interest accumulated over 35 years.”

            Of course, because the source is the NYT, you won’t have to take any notice of it, and JohnAZ, benr et al can continue rage impotently.

          • Majella January 9, 2020 at 6:59 pm #

            Here’s another source you can belittle and demean:

            youtube.com/watch?v=TJ-sfGnG7LU

          • Majella January 9, 2020 at 7:52 pm #

            …from minute 7:00

            youtube.com/watch?v=yPJywW5qmck

  53. K-Dog January 7, 2020 at 1:43 pm #

    Numbers vary, as many as 56 dead. Indian newspapers are reporting fewer. Skip the first minute of zooming in and out of Google Earth. It is a citizen video.

    A classic case of crowd asphyxiation it appears to me.

    No doubt about it, Trump is the king of fuck up.

    Here is an AP link: Stampede kills 56 at funeral for Iranian general slain by US

    • SoftStarLight January 7, 2020 at 2:25 pm #

      I wonder why human stampedes seem to be such a common occurrence in southwest and south Asia? So this too is Trump’s fault? Are you at least stretching a little with this one? Why weren’t the people more careful and aware of their surroundings and all of the others around them? I guess Trump probably sent in mind control waves telling them “Yes, step on one another!”

      • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2020 at 12:38 pm #

        An alien race. A different mountain. A different god.

        Arabs (and the Iranians are mostly a closely related people at this point) like to stand so close together that they can smell each others breaths when they talk. What could be more alien than this? Whites love space and don’t like each other that much. A chink in our armor I’m afraid.

        • SoftStarLight January 9, 2020 at 9:49 am #

          Wow that is way too close for comfort! I agree with you that Whites seem to love their space and are not necessarily natural collectivists. I also though think this has a lot to do with learned behaviors over a long period of time. Capitalism for one has a lot to do with this in my opinion though again I think some it is just natural too.

    • JohnAZ January 7, 2020 at 3:09 pm #

      The king of fuckup. It is very hard to believe that Trump has done everything wrong for three years. Dog, go outside and look around. We are much better off that 2015.

      • Majella January 7, 2020 at 5:58 pm #

        JohnAZ – list the imaginary “better off than 2015” things I should be looking for. Please!

      • Nightowl January 8, 2020 at 4:33 am #

        Define wrong.

        In terms of his own promises, there are very few items I can think of. The Syrian missile attack comes to mind, but a bit of critical thinking puts it to rest. The strike silenced the Russia Truther crowd and the Mockingbird Media for a brief period and the airfield struck was empty.

        Trump did not ultimately support the removal of Assad nor did he continue to use ISIS as a proxy, effectively ending the neolib/con crusade.

        The death of Sol. is also an issue for me, but given the fact that even our EU allies are behind it, I trust the judgment used — for now.

        Trump has, thusfar, proven extremely adept in foreign policy. And he has done well on rebuilding American industry and manufacturing. Long-term growth is, ofc, a farce, but I am curious to see how it is addressed if he wins in 2020.

      • K-Dog January 10, 2020 at 5:35 am #

        The king of fuckup. It is very hard to believe that Trump has done everything wrong for three years. Dog, go outside and look around. We are much better off that 2015.

        I’m glad I come back to check things sometimes. The logic of it. I don’t care if we were all rolling in clover in 2015. Equating our screwed pooch future with made up nostalgic pinings is a psy-op manipulation of reality.

    • BackRowHeckler January 7, 2020 at 3:59 pm #

      What is with countries with two armed forces at their disposal? There is an Iranian army but the Quds force seems to be a separate political army, a private force employed by the ruling Mullahs to do their dirty work, but also granted a degree of autonomy. The Quds force can be compared with the German SS and the Soviet NKVD in earlier days, party armies that rival and sometime even exceed the nation’s official armed forces. All kinds of mischief can be carried out with these formations. And despite the grand send-off this Salami character received in Tehran, I wouldn’t be surprised if not a few Mullahs aren’t glad he’s gone. When SS General Reinhard Heydrich was assassinated in Czechoslavakia he got a huge funeral too, but top Nazis including the Furher himself were afraid of Heydrich’s growing power within the party, and saw him as a threat. And Stalin regularly knocked off NKVD generals himself if he perceived them as a rival and potential usurper.

      Brh

      • elysianfield January 7, 2020 at 6:35 pm #

        ” And despite the grand send-off this Salami character…”

        BRH,

        Goes to show you that when WE play “Hide the Salami”, the salami remains hidden.

        When the Iranians play “Hide the Salami”, they’re just fucking around.,..

        …Well, OK, maybe a reach…I apologize….

      • SoftStarLight January 8, 2020 at 1:47 am #

        Interesting point Brh. I also wondered if some folks on the inside in Iran helped make sure the assasination went through. The power vaccum created could be an opportunity for someone else or someones.

        • BackRowHeckler January 8, 2020 at 8:49 am #

          Sure, in Iran that’s how you move up the ladder.

          I haven’t seen any comparison yet in the media of Trump’s action and the decision in 1944 to take out Admiral Yamamoto (architect of the Pearl Harbor surprise attack), but I think it’s an apt comparison.

          People in our media seem ignorant of history, especially US history, unless they can cherry pick events showing how ‘racist’ or ‘unfair’ we were in the past.

          Brh

          • SoftStarLight January 8, 2020 at 10:06 am #

            Absolutely! And the media is also committed to making America seem like the most racist and unfair place on planet Earth today too.

  54. wm5135 January 7, 2020 at 1:48 pm #

    Another chronology

    Sykes-Picot
    Creation of the Soviet Union – Lenin making Sykes-Pico no more than a point in history by nullifying the treaty.
    BP reacting to nationalization of oil resources by Iran.

    The Dulles brothers.
    The Red Scare – if you can’t cheat em nuke em
    Threat of Sino Expansion – “be the first one on your block to have your boy come home in a box”
    Greed becoming virtue.
    Mistaking ambition for intelligence.
    Believing man is the Creator.
    for your listening pleasure: youtube.com/watch?v=lvlM3-kbBIg

    • SoftStarLight January 7, 2020 at 2:47 pm #

      Isn’t it the case that the last three really seriously came into play in the 1980’s? I like that song!

  55. KesaAnna January 7, 2020 at 2:21 pm #

    ” Well obviously prices will have to be fixed and we will thus become much more of a “command economy”. Sheesh, about time. The Market is simply the Law of the Jungle, with the big eating the small. Let’s clear that jungle, till the land, and make it work for people again. To the extent the market serves, it can stay. And yes, I know it does some things wonderfully – including meeting a very human need to get ahead of other people economically. Sad, but that’s who we are. Fine – but only up to a point and not at the expense of the weak or the nation as a whole.

    Limits on Greed – Oh My God!!!! Call in a Drone Strike. ”

    — Janos

    Now you sound like an Anton Drexler , Srasser brothers , Ernst Roehm National Socialist .

    All those guys got shot , or were quietly pensioned off , in 1934 though.

    • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2020 at 12:41 pm #

      Argumentum ad hominem. Hitler believed 1+1=2 therefore it doesn’t.

      You simply aren’t as smart as you think you are.

  56. Pucker January 7, 2020 at 4:24 pm #

    Today is Kim Jong Un’s birthday. Happy Birthday Kim!

    Who-the-Hell is Morgoth?
    MorgothLives
    @LivesMorgoth
    ·
    Jan 5
    ”Iranian Culture”
    Persepolis and Darius the Great’s legacy is going to be leveled and turned to crumbs by a Hispanic gamer directing a drone, under orders from a lesbian black woman who twerks on the weekends and writes blog posts on queer theory.

    Welcome to hell lads.

    • Pucker January 7, 2020 at 4:46 pm #

      It is a bit weird that Trump threatened to strike Persian cultural sites. What gives?

      That would be like the Iranians threatening to bo..mb Mt. Rushmore. Or, Gettysburg.

      • BackRowHeckler January 7, 2020 at 9:27 pm #

        Nothing new there. Back in 2001 Secretary Rumsfeld, before the smoke had cleared after 9/11, threatened to take out Mecca and Medina with nuclear tipped cruise missiles.

        The real destroyer destroyer of cultural sites is ISIS and the taliban, wrecking ancient monuments in Timbuktu, Roman statuary in Syria, and Buddhist Monuments in Afghanistan. They burned down the Library in Alexandria — which housed all the knownbooks in the world up to that time — but that was awhile ago.

        brh

        • Nightowl January 8, 2020 at 4:39 am #

          ISIS and the Taliban yes, but the neolibs/cons are right up there with them. ISIS was armed with US weaponry, such as brand new TOW anti-tank missiles, drove around in new Toyotas with the names of American landscaping firms emblazoned on the side, and appeared quite skilled in the use of their new toys.

          Did you ever read the declassified DIA document which describes the use of ISIS as a proxy army to break down Syria? Are you familiar with Operation Timber Sycamore? You should duckduckgo it, if not. McStain also met with ISIS bigwigs, and there are photos proving it.

          mintpressnews.com/operation-timber-sycamore-washingtons-secret-war-syria/222692/

          • SoftStarLight January 8, 2020 at 10:13 am #

            It just goes to show that war is a huge business and big economic opportunity for some even though it requires the elimination of others. This is one of the reasons that there will always be war as long as there are people around. It’s imbedded within our DNA to be this way but we fail to make haste in admitting it.

      • BackRowHeckler January 7, 2020 at 9:30 pm #

        And a few years ago Antifa threatened to go to Gettysburg and upturn Confederate monuments. In the south Confederate graves are being desecrated. Our cultural sites are already under assault.

        brh

      • K-Dog January 8, 2020 at 3:17 am #

        Or like this:

        ISIS Destroys Historic Sites in Iraq and Syria. Click Here

        Cheeto brain has managed to equate the US with ISIS in the Iranian mind. An astounding feat, we all got Trumped again!

        • Majella January 8, 2020 at 11:28 am #

          I AM sick of all this ‘WINNING’!!!

          • benr January 8, 2020 at 7:54 pm #

            Majella
            January 8, 2020 at 11:28 am #

            I AM sick of all my ‘WhINNING’!!!

            There I fixed it for you.
            Your very welcome.

          • Majella January 9, 2020 at 8:09 pm #

            “WhINING” &

            “You’re very welcome.”

            There, I fixed THAT for you.

            Truth is, benr, that in terms of ‘whining’, you’re in the Olympic Class whenever Obama is mentioned. Yet, when Himself tells yet another tranche of despicable lies, you wave the flag and chant ‘ra-ra-ra!’ You’re deluded.

    • SoftStarLight January 8, 2020 at 1:52 am #

      Morgoth is sort of like the Devil of Middle Earth in the Lord of the Rings. He is Sauron’s boss.

  57. Pucker January 7, 2020 at 4:40 pm #

    Happy Birthday Kim Jong Un!

    Are any of you CFNers thinking of retiring in the Congo? How safe is it to buy property in the Congo?

    “Hello everyone,

    Why did you choose to retire in Congo? What are the advantages compared with your home country?

    What were your main considerations when deciding to move? For example, taxes, ease of transferring your pension, etc..

    Are there any specific formalities you had to go through as a retiree moving to Congo (for example, is there a particular retirement visa)?

    What is the Congo’s healthcare like? Have you had any good or bad experiences dealing with healthcare professionals?

    Do you have any tips for other retirees in Congo?

    Thank you for sharing your experience.

    Priscilla”

    • elysianfield January 7, 2020 at 6:36 pm #

      “Are any of you CFNers thinking of retiring in the Congo? How safe is it to buy property in the Congo?”

      Puck,
      Every bit as safe as downtown Baltimore….

    • SoftStarLight January 8, 2020 at 10:15 am #

      It would probably be best to assume that you will be dinner in a place like Congo.

      • elysianfield January 8, 2020 at 12:28 pm #

        “It would probably be best to assume that you will be dinner in a place like Congo.

        SSL,
        Dinner in the Congo, Prey in Baltimore.

        • SoftStarLight January 9, 2020 at 9:47 am #

          Both are frightening prospects EF!

  58. stelmosfire January 7, 2020 at 6:04 pm #

    So this is it. This song to me seemed so prophetic back in ’69. I was 12 and a super geek with a lab in the basement.
    youtube.com/watch?v=yesyhQkYrQM
    It kinda freaked me out as I was a science geek. 10,000 years! Just look at how we have accelerated in the past 100 years.Orville wright to Apollo 11 in 70 years. A spit in universal time. I am a mote in the eye of the universe.

    • elysianfield January 7, 2020 at 6:20 pm #

      “I was 12 and a super geek with a lab in the basement”

      Saint,
      That line reminds me;

      …Johnny’s in the basement, mixing up the medicine….

      • elysianfield January 7, 2020 at 6:22 pm #

        And…the link;

        youtube.com/watch?v=MGxjIBEZvx0

        • stelmosfire January 8, 2020 at 7:31 am #

          EF, thanks for the link! Dylan filmed on actual film probably way before the age of MTV. On another note, that infatuation with Selma which you suffer from. Did it start with “The Snake Dance” in “Dusk till Dawn” in ’96? Quentin wrote that film just so he could suck her toes!. at 2:40
          youtube.com/watch?v=EdznDnhY9r4

          • elysianfield January 8, 2020 at 12:23 pm #

            Saint,
            Yes! Suck her toes? I would suck the snake’s toes, if it had them….

          • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2020 at 1:22 pm #

            If you look at how bad things are in Red China,
            Well take a good look at Selma, Alabama.

            Suck her toes? The snake has hypnotized its prey. Well, Ok – just make her pay for it later….

  59. wpa_ccc January 7, 2020 at 7:04 pm #

    Any attack on US forces or US assets will be met VERY FAST AND VERY HARD on 52 sites in Iran including cultural sites.

    Iran made an attack on the Al-Asad Airbase.

    Mr. Trump is mute. He hasn’t said a word about the three Americans killed last week.

    • elysianfield January 7, 2020 at 8:32 pm #

      WPA,
      At first blush, the attack was a pro-forma response to the assassination. The Iranians are signaling that they do not want a large scale conflict…if they did they would close the straits, attack Saudi Oil facilities, attack Israel or try to sink a carrier.

      Politics in the Middle East requires a response, and one was given, but it was a very measured response.

      I could be wrong.

      • BackRowHeckler January 7, 2020 at 9:06 pm #

        E. I think you are exacyly right. You nailed it right on the head, my friend.

        Of course the President could’ve held a Peace Circle somewhere in Berkeley, sat around with the Mullahs and General Salami singing Kumbaya, James Taylor chiming in with a chorus of ‘You got a friend’, like when he accompanied Secretary Kerry to France after a terrorist attack in France.

        “How do you like it now, Gentlemen?”

        brh

      • Nightowl January 8, 2020 at 10:00 am #

        You will not be shown to have been. There is plenty going on that we are not aware of and won’t ever be aware of.

        If anything, Iran is being allowed to save face. I posted earlier that the pics that the Iranian and US media are circulating are, in many cases, not even pictures from the supposed strikes.

        The idea the Iran wants a war with the US (and its Western allies and the Saudis) is absurd. They would be pulverized by the Saudis alone. Anyone ranting about WWIII needs their head checked.

    • Majella January 8, 2020 at 11:33 am #

      huh? You mean he DIDN’T do what he SAID he would? I’m shocked…

      • benr January 8, 2020 at 1:59 pm #

        Was anyone killed?
        No…
        Was anyone hurt.
        No…

        Guess he did do what he said he was going to do.

        The Chimps threw 15 sticks that landed no where near anyone and no one was hurt.

        They showed their people and the world they are not afraid of the great Satan. No response from the great Satan is required because the Chimps failed to do what they said they would do as usual. They don’t want to get their hands dirty they leave that to proxy fighters.

        And people like you are either to obtuse to understand what happened or why it happened or willfully ignore the reality of dealing with countries like Iran.

        Wake up and get with the program you are an American if that is to much for you maybe you should climb on back in the boat and go back where you came from.
        Be honest you want Trump to fail even if it is detrimental to America and that is just wrong.
        I hated Obama but when it came to foreign policy I wanted him to win bigly and instead we got a quisling whiny bitch that talked about red lines and got shat on. He did how ever kill a bunch of people with Drones.

        That is the point machinery can be replaced people can’t and Trump appears to get that.

        Time will tell if he made the right choice regardless of you spouting off all you stupid anti-Trumpster rhetoric.

        • Majella January 9, 2020 at 10:33 am #

          Your argument is way more nuanced than Himself could ever manage…’bigly’ (chortle).

          I simply stated a fact – that he spews threats and lies. Is this not objectively true?

      • Nightowl January 8, 2020 at 5:53 pm #

        Feel free to list the wars Trump has started.

        Bonus points if you stay calm and refrain from caps.

        • Majella January 9, 2020 at 10:34 am #

          Please point out when I ever accused Himself of starting a war.

  60. akmofo January 7, 2020 at 8:13 pm #

    Why Ricky Gervais’s Criticism of Hollywood Is So Satisfying
    by Gad Saad

    youtu.be/ThO3FBy734E

    I make it a habit to never watch any of the Hollywood award shows. To me, they serve as a grotesque manifestation of self-congratulatory debauchery stemming from people who are otherwise extraordinary in how ordinary they are.

    Their sole claim to fame is that they play pretend. They don’t cure diseases, but they pretend they do. They don’t save puppies from burning buildings, but they pretend they do. They don’t save the world from cataclysmic natural disasters, but they pretend they do.

    Human brains have not evolved with the foresight of cinema so when the average person sees a famous actor who played a superhero in his or her last role, they respond in a manner that is akin to actually seeing and meeting the superhero who saved the world. This orgiastic adoration bestowed on celebrities coupled with the wealth that they accrue turns them into our society’s royal class. As I explained in an earlier article, it is difficult then, for some celebrities not to succumb to a sense of narcissistic grandiosity: “I am a wealthy actor who is worshiped by millions of fans. Surely, my uninformed opinion on issues that I know next to nothing about is profound. Hey members of the peasant class, let me lecture to you in a patronizing and condescending way about why you are immoral scum. I will guide you about whom to vote for, what to eat, and how to navigate through daily life because I play pretend on a screen.”

    Then Ricky Gervais happens. He steps into the room and smashes celebrities’ privileged safe spaces. They are not used to being called out, let alone from one of their “own.” After all, Gervais is a world-famous celebrity in his own right, so he is part of the ecosystem of grand pretenders, and yet he possesses the fortitude to call out their moral hypocrisy, baffling ignorance, stifling herd mentality, and nauseating virtue signaling. He does not suffer fools gladly. Gervais stares at these pampered, narcissistic, and self-indulgent ignoramuses and tells them what millions of people are thinking, and he does it with spicy humor. Throughout history, great satirists have used their rhetorical abilities to challenge the powerful. Gervais is the latest instantiation of this long tradition: Namely, he uses his comedic talent to mock an out-of-touch elite class of professional fakers.

    In writing this article, I don’t wish to imply that actors do not offer substantive value to society. Art, literature, and cinema move us. They constitute an integral part of our greater culture and as such Hollywood certainly adds to the pantheon of human creativity. Epistemic humility though is a sorely lacking quality among some in the Malibu crowd. They are not always well-calibrated about what they know and that which they know nothing about. And yet, as perfect exemplars of the Dunning-Kruger effect (confident about one’s ignorance), they sometimes walk around pontificating about matters that the average elliptical machine is better equipped to speak about. As such, continue to entertain us but please don’t pretend that you are more moral, more intelligent, and more virtuous than the rest of us. Gervais’s message resonates because he uses his star power to remind his colleagues that they are full of it, and in this sense, he is a celebrity of the people.

    • Majella January 7, 2020 at 10:01 pm #

      Great article. Thanks, akmofo.

      Why are people in the American industry so prone to this? There’s a pantheon of British actors, for example, that have awesome bodies of work, built over a lifetime – viz Judy Dench, Maggie Smith, Michael Gambon, Robbie Coltrane to name just a few – who DON’T (at least see) display this narcissistic behavior.

      Then there’s the underclass of the Rich & Famous – those who are famous only for being famous – viz all the Kardashians, Paris Hilton, Bristol Palin (!???!!). These people get rich from the paltry offerings of their worshipping millions who click on ads in their instagram accounts. Is there ANYTHING less worthwhile?

      • Majella January 7, 2020 at 10:02 pm #

        …(at least seem to)

        • SoftStarLight January 8, 2020 at 2:08 am #

          That’s pretty gratuitous to throw Bristol Palin in with the Kardashians and Paris Hilton with all those exclamations like its exceedingly crazy she could be famous too. It actually would make sense she would be at least somewhat famous given she is the daughter of someone who ran for VP and she is much less famous anyway than the Kardashians and Paris Hilton. At least she didn’t get her fame by making a sex tape her mom basically produced and marketed.

          • Nightowl January 8, 2020 at 4:44 am #

            IDK, the Palins are grifters. Briston didn’t get peed on, but let’s be honest.

          • Nightowl January 8, 2020 at 4:44 am #

            Bristol.

          • SoftStarLight January 8, 2020 at 10:31 am #

            No doubt, but the comparison to the Kardashians or Hiltons is a stretch because they are just not in the same category. The Kardashians and at least Paris is way more famous than any of the Palins. But it’s not shocking either that the Palins got as famous as they did.

          • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2020 at 1:35 pm #

            She has a good left hook apparently. The Palins go out to bars to drink and fight!

            Sarah was asked not to go to McCain’s funeral. Her attempt at attaining the Upper Class has been completely foiled. Even regular Alaskans were confused by her not finishing her term – a basic American value. It just didn’t feel like it was furthering her career or something.

          • Nightowl January 8, 2020 at 5:57 pm #

            You are right, I suppose. But all grifters basically go in the same bucket in my world.

      • akmofo January 7, 2020 at 10:17 pm #

        Majella,

        Gad Saad gives these hostile foreign agents much too much of the benefit of the innocence. They are not innocent. They are corrupt hostile foreign agents, and they should all be treated as such. From Hollywood fscks to NYTimes/CNN creeps to commie Georgetown professors to CIA and FBI coup plotters. They are all one big Vatican mafia.

        • Tate January 8, 2020 at 3:35 pm #

          There’s the Vatican… Whew! for a second there I thought you’d forgot.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2020 at 4:01 pm #

          Sad Gaad thinks the Vatican owns Hollywood and the Media? He’s a master projectionist to the point of madness – just like you.

  61. akmofo January 7, 2020 at 10:04 pm #

    Iran launched over 60 ballistic missiles at Iraqi US bases from Iran, and says it is conducting a second round of missile attacks from its territory.

    I didn’t imagine the Mullahs would be this stupid, but with their star General and war tactician gone, who knows.

    The market casually dismissed the events of prior days. Futures are now down sharply.

    Iran has called the US threats as a “bluff”. They were right before and got away with it during previous US administrations. Will be interesting to see if President Trump will allow them get away with it again.

    • akmofo January 8, 2020 at 10:33 am #

      The invisible hand of the Markets decided that it’s a double bluff by two professional bluffers. Oil and Gold taking a nose dive.

  62. Pucker January 7, 2020 at 10:13 pm #

    Trump has threatened to blow up ancient Persian historical sites in Iran. It’s so embarrassing.

    Those ancient Persian sites belong to everyone. It’s like blowing up your own house. Alexander the Great lamented the Greeks’ leveling of Persepolis. A Greek woman put the Greeks up to it by mocking the Greeks’ masculinity. The Greeks were literally drunk when they burned Persepolis.

    • Pucker January 7, 2020 at 10:19 pm #

      Do you remember President Carter’s brother, “Billy”?

      Billy Carter started a business venture to sell a brand of dreadful beer called “Billy Beer”.

      • Tate January 8, 2020 at 3:38 pm #

        I bought a six-pack of Billy beer. Probably most of you did back in the day. Do you still have it? Me neither.

    • akmofo January 7, 2020 at 10:46 pm #

      The “cultural sites” referred to are mosques and madrassas. But I agree, it is embarrassing to call them such.

    • Pucker January 7, 2020 at 10:52 pm #

      I suppose that one will always be in denial about his/ her parents, about his/ her country, etc. But, quite frankly, I think that something is terribly amiss with my own people, the Americans?

      They really need to get their heads straight…..

      When I was about 6 years old my parents took me into a Hippie shop in Underground Atlanta in the early 1970’s. There were these weird, surreal posters on the walls. One poster was of then President Nixon wearing a German Naa..zi helmet, a black leather jacket and boots, and riding a chopper. Another poster showed Popeye fucking-the-hell-out-of Olive Oyl with an open can of spinach lying on the ground next to them.

      There’s something wrong with this Society….

      • akmofo January 7, 2020 at 11:06 pm #

        Culture has a full “rotation” every 80 years. So in another 30 years no one will remember who Popeye is or how to fuck an Olive.

      • Pucker January 7, 2020 at 11:23 pm #

        We looked at a condo for sale in Trump Tower in Manhattan several years ago. The name “Trump” appeared in big gold letters on the front of the building. The British, blonde haired, blue eyed Aryan real estate agent watched me like a hawk the entire time thinking that I was going to steal something. I wanted to lift a “Trump Towel” from the bathroom, or a Trump fountain pen from the desk as a souvenir, but I didn’t get a chance because I was being watched. I suspect that Trump probably has hidden cameras in all of his rooms to video tape people like Epstein.

        • Pucker January 7, 2020 at 11:25 pm #

          There’s something “Wrong” with this Society….

          • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2020 at 1:40 pm #

            So you should be allowed to steal? And any society that stops you is bad? What would Spock say about that morality?

        • akmofo January 7, 2020 at 11:44 pm #

          The Brits are not “Aryan”. Neither are the Germans, btw. They are both Celts from Northern Russia.

          Blonde and blue eyes are a phenotype of far North climates. I’ve yet to come across a single Persian or Indian (supposed “Aryans”) that wasn’t dark skinned with dark hair and dark eyes.

          But Vatican Nazi propaganda is so outrageously outrageous that even wide eyed Blacks who should know better get ensnared in it.

          • jim e January 8, 2020 at 12:14 am #

            what is black and blue claiming to be cherokee

          • akmofo January 8, 2020 at 7:34 am #

            Elizabeth Warren and her Iranian sponsors.

  63. wpa_ccc January 8, 2020 at 12:40 am #

    “Of course the President could’ve held a Peace Circle” —brh

    Effectively that is what he did, responding to the Iranian ballistic missile attack with a tweet saying: “All is well.” Bone spur does not have a clue. Being bombarded by Iranian ballistic missiles does not mean “All is well” but Bone spur still thinks he knows more than the generals and thinks he alone can fix it.

    The Mullahs called his bluff and he cowered to the Mullahs like the weak and cowardly bully he is. Having the world’s most expensive and sexually diverse military means jack shit to the Mullahs who are ready to match Trump’s war crimes with the complete destruction of US bases.

    Today was just a message. Next time the Mullahs will put payload on thousands of missiles, taking out Dubai, Israel, and leveling all the US bases. Trump has been warned.

    Trump is a big mouth bluffer who has actually done the assassinated general’s work by uniting opposing factions to fight us. God bless our vulnerable troops.

    Ballistic Missiles are not mortars. But ignorant Trump does not know what receiving incoming is like … nor does he care. The Poor deplorables are just cannon fodder to billionaire Bone Spur.

    • Nightowl January 8, 2020 at 10:07 am #

      By all means, indulge us with the top-secret information with which US military brass has entrusted you.

    • benr January 8, 2020 at 11:07 am #

      I am for ever amused by people such as yourself who attack Trump for not having been in the military.
      My guess is you never served either.
      I did how ever and for my trouble I was exposed to Depleted uranium rounds, have had to have spinal surgery, got several rounds of Anthrax shots which has led to what I believe a series of health issues and was exposed to all sort of other toxic materials.
      Even better when I got out I was young enough I did not notice many of the problems I now I have and was not service connected like so many are now.
      What does that mean?
      No free money for essentially trashing my body.
      You can toss out the bone spurs shit all day long it only makes you look like a fool.

      • benr January 8, 2020 at 11:08 am #

        Oh and you over estimate Iran’s abilities to project power by a huge margin.
        If they actually had all that ability they would have done so by now.

      • Nightowl January 8, 2020 at 5:59 pm #

        Damn, benr. That is serious stuff. 🙁

  64. Pucker January 8, 2020 at 2:55 am #

    I wonder if there are still Russian people who think of themselves as “Soviet”?

    A few months ago, that Hannity asshole on Fox News kept accidentally referring to the Russians as “the Soviets”. Something was misfiring in his head and no one seemed to notice.

    The country is brain damaged. Brain Fucked….

    • K-Dog January 8, 2020 at 3:10 am #

      I wonder what a road trip would be like there. Driving up into Siberia in the summer. Having a friend named Ivan along might be a good idea I’ll guess.

      • elysianfield January 8, 2020 at 12:16 pm #

        “Having a friend named Ivan along might be a good idea I’ll guess.

        Dog,
        Having a friend along named Putin would be even better…I’d guess….

  65. Nightowl January 8, 2020 at 5:29 am #

    US MSM shilling hard for war again and now circulating Iranian media propaganda on retalitory strikes.

    Old pictures of unrelated events being used as evidence of Irani attacks on US bases.

    Knob Creek redux.

    twitter.com/CindyOtis_/status/1214696007042322443

  66. stelmosfire January 8, 2020 at 8:48 am #

    So I have my shit parked in a 4% safe account. I guess I missed the boat. My brother has APPL and he rubs my nose in it . Up like 20 % in a year. I had a friend at the firehouse in 2008 said buy Apple at 13 bucks. 12/08 ($12.78). 12/01/19 (299.80).Up over 2300%. Of course I was a dolt and stuck with silver. Apple now close to 300 dollars. Silver not so much. Is an Iphone really worth that much?

    • stelmosfire January 8, 2020 at 8:50 am #

      But I can lay in my bed and roll in my silver coins. So there is that.

    • BackRowHeckler January 8, 2020 at 9:18 am #

      Yeah, you can access all the stored knowledge in the history of the world from your I phone. I’d say that’s pretty important.

      How’d you get 4% Rip? Actually that’s pretty good.

      Also, you point to your friend at the firehouse and his success, I have a neighbor, an attorney who lost everything in the NASDAC crash in 2000, and again in the crash of 2008. On the other hand we have a stepson who was a pretty big f# up in his younger days not long ago, and was hanging around here living off the fat ‘o the land. We told him time to get your ass out of here and get a job. He answered a craigslist ad for workers on a solar project, which led unbelievably to him becoming a Bitcoin millionaire in about 5 short years. He rides around in a Cadillac Escalade with a driver — he’s White Trash Rich, buying 4 wd this and that, motorcycles, antique cars, taking frequent vacations etc. I told him you better save some of that money because these good times for you will not last. He just laughs off my advice. Actually the trip up to Lee I mentioned was to bring a few local guys he knows to work in a new ‘Mine’ he’s set up. I was happy for the opportunity to take a little road trip but the guy I met peeled off $250 for my trouble. There’s money to burn right now and he thinks it will go on forever, apparently.

      brh

      • stelmosfire January 8, 2020 at 11:23 am #

        That is fuckin’ crazy! Kids, I call them kids, 30-40 year olds, in these parts are spending 3-4 hundred G’s on plywood boxes with 1/4 acre. Crazy I say Crazy!

        • stelmosfire January 8, 2020 at 11:30 am #

          My place and properties are all between 100 and 200 years old and built with true 2x4s, probably chestnut. I know there is no way to put a nail in it after being dried for 100 years. It frustrates the shit outta me, Pre- drill and screw is the only solution.

      • stelmosfire January 8, 2020 at 12:55 pm #

        Hey loud mouth in the back row, 4% in the general fund state pension plan. Safe, sure, but I missed the boat in the stock market over the last 10 years. Some of the jamokes that stayed in are up 40%. Better safe than sorry I guess!

  67. fugeguy January 8, 2020 at 9:11 am #

    There have been rumors for months about troops and assets headed to the ME.

    Of course, such rumors are not uncommon.

    But it seems that something is coming. Also rumors that the T’ster is itching to show the world some of the new toys in the US arsenal.

    Still are people here and other places that think all weapon development ended with the fusion/fission bomba in the 50’s. If only it had. There is much scarier things a foot than nuclear bombs. Let’s hope we don’t wake up soon to an Iran of 8 million people…

  68. JohnAZ January 8, 2020 at 10:13 am #

    Take the local politics out of it for a moment.

    This is an ongoing battle between a secular liberalized part of the world, and a deeply religious conservative area who is more than willing to die for their God. Israel is the only state in the area that represents the former, so it is condemned.

    Iran will not go away, it will nip at the West’s heels forever. Are we willing to put up with this. Hitler and Tojo pulled the same kind of crap until we had had enough and we know what happened there.

    If these rocketsW had been worth anything, this rocket attack could have been another Pearl Harbor.

    The real question is how obnoxious will we allow little Iran to be before we remove their ability to make war.

    Right now, we are at 1938 and Neville Chamberlain is on his way to Germany to give away Europe to try to appease Hitler. History tells about how well that went.

    The Democrats and possibly Trump are latter day Chamberlains and I will tell you, Hitler was less committed to his cause than the Ayatollahs are. Will history rhyme again?

    • BackRowHeckler January 8, 2020 at 10:25 am #

      Iran sent a few missiles our way. I think that’ll be pretty much the end of it. War is over, really just an international incident between a regional power and a world power both determined to establish hegemony in the ME.

      Brh

      • JohnAZ January 8, 2020 at 11:05 am #

        For now! They will be back. Pushing like the adolescents they are.

        Would you arm your teenager with 2000 missiles and enable a path to nukes? No?

        The Dems did it!

    • SoftStarLight January 8, 2020 at 10:42 am #

      Please stop! No more war ok! The Mullahs called our bases ahead of time and told our people to take cover. It was a face saving operation for them in front of their own people. They had to do this since we took out their top general. But enough is enough. Ok fine, everyone has shown everyone theirs so can we please move on now and try to do something constructive. First thing first, can we please withdraw our people from the region? And hey, if Iran outright attacks us here at home or somewhere abroad without any provocation or reason then I may support turning Iran into a giant parking lot. But why are we fighting the Zionists’ fight? Why are we fighting Iraq’s and Saudi Arabia’s fights? Why are we sinking millions and billions into propping these fragile regimes up when we could be sinking millions and billions into our infrastructure and schools and healthcare system? It is up to Israel and Iraq and Saudi Arabia to make peace with Iran or fight them. We are way over here and desperately need attention.

      • JohnAZ January 8, 2020 at 11:00 am #

        SSL

        Easy answer.

        Geopolitics, we are still fighting the Cold War with China and Russia. If we leave the scene, they jump in. China is building its road networks into the ME to take over the area economically. Russia’s footprints are all over the area. If we pull out, our influence goes to zero, Saudi Arabia (Sunni) and Iran (SHia) go to war for influence in the area and Israel comes under pressure, the only stable Western power in the ME.

        If our new charter is to become isolated from the world, it would be a good thing to withdraw. However, when fracking becomes untenable and we need SA again, they will be gone.

        Russia and China will control the world if we go isolationist, politically and economically. If that is our desired future, so be it.

        Maybe if we let those two control the world, it will allow us to slip more rapidly into The Long Emergency. There is a good incentive.

        Something about frying pans and fires.

        • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2020 at 2:20 pm #

          Russia doesn’t want us next door. An American occupied Iran on their border? Think they’ll go for that?

          People like you are going to get us nuked or EMPed. Stop projecting your aggression onto the other Two Great Powers. WE, Oceania, is far more aggressive than either.

          • JohnAZ January 8, 2020 at 5:16 pm #

            About as much as Ukraine.

          • benr January 9, 2020 at 8:39 am #

            I see no evidence Trump is continuing the policy of encirclement so many before have engaged in.
            He how ever is also not walking it back.

      • akmofo January 8, 2020 at 11:31 am #

        I understand the logic of getting Syrian Iraqi Saudi and Gulf oil for US paper printed with dollar signs, but what’s the logic in spending trillions on Germany/Vatican?

        Why is the US in Europe supporting and subsidizing the Germans/EU, who are the biggest economic rivals to the US, with hundreds of thousands of troops and trillions of dollars? Not billions, but TRILLIONS of dollars!!!

        Why maintain US troops and bases in Europe? Why is it ok for the Vatican/EU to spend money on gold and marble palaces for gay and pederast orgies and not on defense costs? Why is the US subsidizing this fat pederast mafia?

        • akmofo January 8, 2020 at 12:14 pm #

          The US spends $685 billion dollars per year on the defense of Germany/Vatican EU. The US shoulders over 70% of total NATO expenditures per year. Why?

          forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2018/07/10/defense-expenditure-of-nato-members-visualized-infographic…

          • akmofo January 8, 2020 at 12:26 pm #

            $685 billion dollars a year, every year!

            That’s a serious amount of money!

            Why is this money being spent on these fat Europeans?

          • akmofo January 8, 2020 at 12:40 pm #

            That’s over 220x the aid that Israel receives!!!

            Why is the US giving all this money to Germany/EU?

          • BackRowHeckler January 8, 2020 at 1:00 pm #

            Yeah, we don’t spend much on Israel, about $3 billion, and there’s all kind of strings attached to the aid. It’s more of a way to funnel cash to our defense contractors than anything else because that’s where most of it is directed to go.

            I see Israel as an outpost on the eastern frontier of western civilization, and for $3 bill we’re getting away cheap.

            Brh

          • akmofo January 8, 2020 at 1:15 pm #

            @BackRowHeckler

            That doesn’t explain why the US is spending $685 billion dollars a year on the defense of Europe.

            Why is this humongous amount of US money being spent on Europeans and not on public transport and infrastructure in the US. Why not build subways systems under every city in the US, instead of subsidizing German and French vacationers in their months long vacations in Cuba and the other Caribbean islands?

            What’s the military or economic logic here, other than that the US government is occupied territory of the Vatican mafia?

          • BackRowHeckler January 8, 2020 at 1:33 pm #

            Akmofo

            Good question. I’m assuming most of goes to NATO. Maybe it’s a legacy cost left over from the Cold War and the perception that Russia remains a threat to W Europe. Trump purportedly held back a measly $400 million to Ukraine for a few days and he was impeached over it, and Ukraine isn’t even a NATO ally.

            Brh

          • akmofo January 8, 2020 at 2:38 pm #

            Yup. These are mafia tactics. They need to be exposed. The MSM are their propaganda agents.

          • akmofo January 8, 2020 at 5:10 pm #

            How come I never hear about the German lobby?

            $685 billion dollars a year is an outrageous amount to be spending on these European fat cats. This needs to be exposed, and it needs to end!

          • Majella January 9, 2020 at 10:43 am #

            I question the reading of the chart in the article and the idea that $685 billion is being spent on NATO, EU and/or Germany.

            The charts title is “Defense Expenditure of NATO Countries”. That’s in total.

        • benr January 9, 2020 at 8:40 am #

          That is easy to answer.

          Look at European history.

          They simply can’t be trusted to not start throwing sticks at each other.

      • Janos Skorenzy January 8, 2020 at 2:17 pm #

        Commonsense – which isn’t common, certainly not about things like this. In fact, it is the lower or earthly octave of Wisdom.

        • malthuss January 8, 2020 at 4:59 pm #

          veterans today site warns of chemtrails and I found this,

          EDITORS NOTE: The Original full textbook “The Jesuit Order as a Synagogue of Jews“, (316 pages) is free for download and distribution with proper attribution under commons.

          As an editorial note from VT, the read itself is a useful dialog on historical studies of the Jesuits and the Inquisition. I have known some of the source authors for years. Gail Evans, now deceased and missed dearly, was our resident expert on this subject.
          There are Q and A comment boards at the original site with some value for those with scholarly interest. Suffice it to say, there is controversy. The idea of Jewish origins of the Jesuit order and of the assertion that the same maintained a contiguous agenda for centuries is well supported.
          In its simplest form, it is asserted that Loyola and his associates began the Society of Jesus and unleashed a holocaust across the Christian world.
          In ways, I might go much further, tying in not only the tens of thousands murdered as witches but the ethnic cleansing that, under Jesuit “Catholicism”, accounted for up to 100-million deaths, depending on whose figures you accept, in colonial conquests in the New World

  69. JohnAZ January 8, 2020 at 10:17 am #

    The really most insane side of this deal is the reaction of the Dems. They have the audacity to try to blame Trump for the run up of tensions with Iran. How many GIs need to be clobbered before we react? Blame Trump instead of the Iranians? Pelosi et al are nuts.

    • JohnAZ January 8, 2020 at 10:45 am #

      Here we go. Let us follow the Democratic lead from history.

      Let us send another couple of hundred billions of dollars more to entrench the theocracy and buy or build more missiles to shoot at us. Great idea!

      Benedict Arnold had nothing on the modern day traitors.

    • SoftStarLight January 8, 2020 at 10:47 am #

      The Ayatollahs are maniacs. The Zionists are maniacs too. But some of our most dangerous threats are domestic. We literally have so many people in seats of power that are working to disarm us and completely destroy everything about our country and culture that was ever good or ever made sense. If Trump really was a genius he would be taking these people out. Short of that, Civil War II will have to take care of it. It will probably start once gun confiscation is attempted in Virginia. Once the government goes full tilt into forced disarmament I think all bets will totally be off.

      • JohnAZ January 8, 2020 at 11:02 am #

        The Dems are maniacs. TDS maniacs.

        A reminder, half the population supports these maniacs. ?????

        • Majella January 8, 2020 at 11:52 am #

          60% v. 40% RWNJs, JohnAZ.

          I nOte with interest your impassioned plea to deal to Iran…but only weeks ago, you were supporting your joke President’s stated desire to get out of endless wars in the ME.

          This is the Trump Derangement Syndrome of the Trump Cultists – constant cognitive dissonance.

          • BackRowHeckler January 8, 2020 at 12:13 pm #

            The world is a complicated place, Majella. Liz Warren or Bernie Sanders could win in Nov, with all kinds of plans to build American Utopia, then, due to circumstances outside our borders and beyond their control, find themselves fighting foreign wars on all fronts. You never know.

            Brh

          • benr January 8, 2020 at 12:17 pm #

            The joke president is only dealing with the can that has been kicked down the road for over forty years.
            The previous resident in the Whitehouse was even more feckless and repulsive leading by polls.
            What would you do?
            The answer to that question is really easy you would fail to lead.
            No matter what you did a thumb in your eye would be the response from Iran since they only thing they respect is to speak softly but carry a huge radiated stick and to beat them soundly around the head and shoulders every time the step out of line.
            This can be financially or by embarrassing them and last killing them.
            No one really wants a war but when dealing with people who effectively run around like chimps beating their chest and throwing sticks one must do the same but even larger.

          • Majella January 8, 2020 at 3:12 pm #

            ‘ No one really wants a war but when dealing with people who effectively run around like chimps beating their chest and throwing sticks one must do the same but even larger.’

            See? Cognitive dissonance. Too subtle for you, bent, I suspect…if you’d lived in ME from the mid 1950s till now, it’s be the US that ‘runs around like chimps beating their chest and throwing sticks…’

          • JohnAZ January 8, 2020 at 5:15 pm #

            Still do, but the changes that follow are potentially deleteriousto this country.

            I do not give a rat’s ass about the folks running the ME, just pointing out that they will self immolate if a stabilizing force is not there.

            Let Russia and China do it.

          • Nightowl January 8, 2020 at 5:46 pm #

            What war has he started?

            By all means, let’s hear more on this subject.

          • Majella January 8, 2020 at 7:28 pm #

            NO – what ‘he’ are you referring to?

            My remark was about US foreign policy in general over the years, no particular President.

            The reply to JohnAZ simply asked why he’d flipped from ‘end all foreign wars’ a few weeks ago to what amounts to ‘blow Iran to smithereens’ now.

            I once again suggest you work on your reading comprehension.

          • benr January 8, 2020 at 8:06 pm #

            @majella

            No it’s been the us military keeping the chimps from full scale murdering each other or anyone else snot strong enough to put up a fight.
            You know like the crazy muslims in Africa murdering Christians at every turn. Where are all the Zoastrians and Coptic Christians?
            In the grave murdered that’s where.

            Yep we meddled in elections and put in strong men to keep the chimps under control and look what happens when we depose one.
            Chaos mass murder and mayhem.
            I guess mass murder is ok with you as long as its your buddies either the Shia or Sunni doing it huh?

          • Majella January 8, 2020 at 9:39 pm #

            benr

            “as long as its your buddies either the Shia or Sunni doing it”?

            WTF?

            This is always where your low-level arguments wind up, in some ridiculous troll accusation of complicity with…[pick your villain].

            However, the point here is that you are saying the US has an OBLIGATION to act as the world’s policeman? I’m surprised at that, and at the notion that you actually give a shit about Zoroastrians et al…I mean, the Zoroastrians aren’t even remotely related to Christianity, which on reading your blurb, sounds like the main reason you believe the US should be beating up Muslims.

          • Nightowl January 9, 2020 at 4:45 am #

            My reading comprehension is excellent, which is why I make a fool of you in every thread.

          • benr January 9, 2020 at 8:43 am #

            @majella

            It’s pretty simple really.

            Anything wrong in the world or anti-American you post positive about.

            Go back through your posts if you don’t believe me.

            You live in a country that by your posts you hate, vilify and want the worst leadership possible.

          • Majella January 9, 2020 at 9:18 am #

            Nightowl

            Your rosy self-assessment is quite amusing, but lacks any objective reality, otherwise known as ‘evidence’.

            The evidence to the contrary (regarding your reading comprehension) is, on the other hand, plain to in most of your responses.

            Try again.

          • Nightowl January 10, 2020 at 8:14 am #

            Maj using my phrasing again.

            I remain flattered.

            It is only a shame you are not capable of distingusing between musings and statements of fact. This explains many of the issues you encounter when discussing events on this site.

  70. meargen January 8, 2020 at 11:43 am #

    Rush Limbaugh celebrated his return from vacation saying Soleimani was buried in a cardboard box. ‘A cardboard box! N-yahh N-yahh!’ No, he didn’t say the last, but the gloating was there. But most of the talkies on radio never met a war they didn’t like.

    When i think of Soleimani’s assassination, I think less of a surgical drone strike then our Indian wars, when the army, after failing to catch Indians, would call for a peace conference, and when the chiefs came, snatched them and locked them up.

    I’m not saying Iran is the innocent bumblebee here, but we seem to lack a lot of dignity (or gravitas?), and seem to be doing Israel’s dirty work which they can’t do. But there is a lot of animosity against Iran. Why else would Trump say ’51 monuments for 51 hostages?’ (Like Heinz’s 57 different kinds? Trump knows how to pitch) A lot of people want to even the score, although I think as America gets darker and less white, that will have less of an influence.

    As for K-Dog’s trying to understand Iran and their dislike of us, I remember Iranian students here in 1973. They were loud, broke all the rules in the dorms, spent money like it was water, and were everywhere, like Chinese students are today.

    A book I like is Andre Dubus III’s House of Sand and Fog, contrasting an Iranian refugee with Kathy Nicolo, a drug-using, messed-up American whose house is taken away, he buys, and they get in a war over who owns what. Very telling about Americans and Iranians. Behrani, the Iranian, notes how he finds Americans don’t deserve the good fortune they have. he finds them fat, shallow, and obsessed with TV…unlike the Americans he knew in Iran, the military, corporate types.
    Kathy, on the other hand, is a decent person but screwed-up, and gets involved with Les, a deputy who wants to see justice done, but he’s a book of weakness and contradictions.

    Behrani observes that the immigrants are the only ones who know what a good place America is, and will take it away from the Americans. With Americans like Kathy and Les, it’s easy to see why.

    Paul Craig Roberts, who a couple of weeks ago quoted JHK’s column on a true description of the Democrats, feels Iran should seek an alliance with Russia and China and that will save it from invasion.. Sort of like NATO and Warsaw pact…both alliances wouldn’t dare attack each other.

    Maybe, but I think Iran knows how far they can push us, and a lot of people here really don’t want a shooting war.

    Someone suggested Iran should simply attack the Saudi oil fields, and so cripple the West.
    Oddly, this was the plot of a novel in the 70’s, where the Shah launched a blitzkrieg to take over all the world’s oil, and in the end, to stop the Shah and Arabs, Israel fired a nuke over the fields, making them radioactive, and wiping out the Arab’s oil power…and saving Israel at the expense of the West’s prosperity.

    It’s all so tribal.

    • K-Dog January 8, 2020 at 1:01 pm #

      Ok, so what happened is my friend who did have the chip on his shoulder as you describe was having to go back to Iran and he was freaked out he was going to be sent to the front.

      The war with Iraq was just starting. He was freaked out about being having to go home and being sent to the front. At the time I was all peace and love and thought he was over-reacting. I know, and have known for years I was wrong about that. It haunts me.

      It haunts me because he demanded I help him find a woman for him to marry so he could stay here. I told him he was crazy. There is the not taking the war serious stupidity thing, but at the time my skill in acquiring a woman, any woman sucked. I had no idea how to help him. I was hardly ever getting any myself. Realizing now hardly ever made me look like a god to some.

      Its funny because if I could have the situation over again I could so make it work. Walk into a room and look for the most beautiful woman I can find.

      Walk up and say:

      Excuse me………….

      I could flip Massoud’s plight into a story that would really work out. He and I did not look alike. So had he turned out not to be her type I might have filled a need and then we would have had to keep looking. What might have been could make for a good story.

      But the truth haunts me. I never knew if Massoud went back or not. If he went back the RGs would have sent him to the front lines. I was too stupid to figure out how to help him then. I hope he found someone who could.

  71. volodya January 8, 2020 at 12:28 pm #

    A last word on this Ricky Gervais business. It was on youtube. Hilarious. 

    I’ve never met a Hollywood celeb but I’m not above shaking hands with one. If someone offered to introduce me I’d say alright seeing as my tetanus shots are up to date and because everyone deserves a chance. 

    No matter how vast their fame, I’ll bet the vast majority of them descend from ordinary folk like you and me, so it boggles the mind that they’ve apparently forgotten where they come from. I suppose that when you’re soaked in money and fawning fans that’s what happens. 

    I know nothing of what it takes to be an actor so I won’t denigrate their skill set. That said, I doubt there was anyone in that room that could stand beside one of the Caesars or Lincoln or Churchill and so good ole Ricky reminded them of their place under the firmament: when you get your award, thank your agent, your god, and fuck off. 

    • JohnAZ January 8, 2020 at 5:10 pm #

      V

      Imagine what it would be like if everyone treated you like you were made out of gold, you are always right, omniscient . How long before your personality is totally hosed up?

      • K-Dog January 9, 2020 at 2:51 am #

        It happens to people who start cults. It does not take long before they are hosed.

      • elysianfield January 9, 2020 at 11:56 am #

        “Imagine what it would be like if everyone treated you like you were made out of gold, you are always right, omniscient .”

        John,
        And such is usually the fate of beautiful women….

  72. stelmosfire January 8, 2020 at 1:05 pm #

    I’m predicting that the economy will fold this year. Oil prices up. Dollar down. Mostly due to the higher ups and their wish to Dump the Trump. They can do it at a whim. F the deplorables..

    • BackRowHeckler January 8, 2020 at 1:38 pm #

      RIP

      I’m predicting the Mets will win the World Series this year. Mostly due to new ownership and willingness to spend a little $$$ on a proven closer. F the Yankees.

      Brh

  73. BackRowHeckler January 8, 2020 at 3:20 pm #

    183 arson arrests in New South Wales, site of the wildfires.

    How do you like it now, Gentlemen?

    Brh

    • malthuss January 8, 2020 at 4:57 pm #

      Muslim terorists and white arsonists?

      • malthuss January 8, 2020 at 4:58 pm #

        terror

        • JohnAZ January 8, 2020 at 5:06 pm #

          The thing I notice is the MSM not publishing who the arsonists are and what motivates them.

          Maybe they are hiding something.

          • JohnAZ January 8, 2020 at 5:07 pm #

            Are they the same group that has been lighting up California every year?

          • malthuss January 8, 2020 at 11:28 pm #

            maybe?????????????????????????????

        • BackRowHeckler January 8, 2020 at 6:09 pm #

          Ok, it turns out there have been 183 arson arrests but only 24 of them can be directly linked to the devastating fires burning now. Activists aren’t happy about this; people actually starting the fires aren’t responsible you see. You driving your truck, using electricity, and keeping your house warm in Omaha is what’s to blame, got that? It’s all so very clear.

          Brh

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2020 at 8:12 pm #

            (1) People who start fires are responsible for starting fires.

            (2) The issue with climate change is the setting of the context for uncontrollable fires through long periods of record-breaking drought.It doesn’t matter if the fires are started by arsonists or picnickers – the tinder-dry region doesn’t care. It’ll take anything on offer.

            Expect this to be widely ignored and the arsonists used as an excuse to say climate change isn’t a thing (we told you so, nyah nyah…)

            (3) Many of the arsonists in such cases are firefighters (in the Austalian case, some are volunteer firefighters), not terrorists. Don’t tell me, with all your experience of the world, brh, you don’t know about firefighter arson. It’s a well known psychological fact of life.

            Your homeland security folks know all about it – where have you been?

            usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pdf/publications/tr-141.pdf

          • GreenAlba January 8, 2020 at 8:20 pm #

            Others are just common or garden arsonists/pyromaniacs.

            Some people are just into destruction. They don’t need to be terrorists. Although you might call them eco-terrorists in this instance.

            None of it changes the reality of the effects of climate change on Australia. A number of fire chiefs and former fire chiefs are now speaking openly about how their warnings to TPTB have been ignored for years and they have effectively been muzzled. Which is what you’d expect, given TPTB in Australia.

          • BackRowHeckler January 8, 2020 at 8:51 pm #

            Yeah, we have that same phenomena round these parts, firemen, mostly volunteer firemen, starting fires (and being the first to call it in) I’d say it’s pretty rare tho.

            A lot of crazies in Australia? Have you seen the film ‘Welcome to WoopWoop’?

          • malthuss January 8, 2020 at 11:54 pm #

            moon battery—-

            Jan 08 2020
            Australian Bushfires: Muslim Angle

            My apologies. I said there doesn’t seem to be a Muslim connection regarding the catastrophic Australian bushfires. Turns out the fires may have more to do with Islam than with harmless carbon emissions.

            From the Daily Telegraph via the Geller Report:

            Western Sydney teen Fadi Zraika — one of the two teens [the other being Abraham Zreika] accused of lighting a grass fire at a Guildford park while bushfires ravaged NSW — laughed outside court [yesterday] after appearing on multiple charges.

            Maybe it was an accident, despite Zraika’s laughter — which was chilling considering the enormous damage the fires have inflicted.

            Then again,

            “‘Unleash Hell’: New Al Qaeda magazine describes in detail how to start huge forest fires across the U.S..with instructions on how to make ’ember bombs.’” — Daily Mail, May 3, 2012

            “ISIS-linked media: California fires are retribution for Syria,” Preston Business Review, November 15, 2018

            Muslim colonists have been suspected of starting Australian bushfires to please Allah for some time.

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 7:23 am #

            “ISIS-linked media: California fires are retribution for Syria,”

            ISIS are happy to take any opportunity for propaganda even if they didn’t create it themselves. They know that Americans cower under their beds as the most frightened people on planet Earth, despite being the most capable of turning the planet into an ashtray – as well as being the most cocooned.

            Same phenomenon as the Worried Well who waste endless doctors’ time with their variegated hypochondrias.

          • benr January 9, 2020 at 8:48 am #

            @ga

            Most of it can be laid at the feet of ecowarriors who have outlawed cutting down trees for Firebreaks.
            They also have not removed dead trees much like California.

            Its pretty dry in OZ already so enough with your wonky talk about climate change.
            The problem is man made but not related to burning fossil fuels.

      • BackRowHeckler January 8, 2020 at 6:27 pm #

        Muzzies have burned thousands of cars in Paris, Nice, Marsailles and Malmo, but as far as I know haven’t set a whole country on fire yet. But there’s a first for everything.

        • malthuss January 8, 2020 at 11:29 pm #

          you have much to learn.
          research chemtrails and fires.

    • benr January 8, 2020 at 7:22 pm #

      Forest fires are in the terrorist handbook.

      I knew all along the Australian wild fire issues was not natural.

      Worse they suffer the same green rubbish California is suffering.

      Firebreaks are out lawed if they disturb trees.

      No Firebreaks = massive forest fires.

  74. Pucker January 8, 2020 at 5:58 pm #

    What would happen to the P…,arty, if, rather than offering rich financial and career awards for becoming a member of the P…arty, P…arty membership offered little or no material benefit, and P.,,arty members had to “volunteer” for “Community Service”, like ladling out watered down soup and handing out slices of moldy bread to hobos in a hot, steamy, sweaty soup kitchen?

    Every major holiday, like Thanksgiving, Chaz 10 Buttigieg will post on his Twitter site a photo of himself in a spotlessly clean apron and clothes selflessly serving food in a soup kitchen. Soon thereafter, Chaz posts suggestive photos of himself with gay men and with vulnerable kids.

  75. Pucker January 8, 2020 at 6:00 pm #

    Mayor Pete – He came out of nowhere and got a plethora of MSM coverage.

    thedailybeast.com/far-left-internet-thinks-mayor-pete-buttigieg-is-a-secret-agent

  76. Pucker January 8, 2020 at 6:05 pm #

    The Kissman allegedly used to go wild boar hunting with Brezhnev in Russia.

    I’m not sure that I believe this story? Kissinger doesn’t look like the Wild Pig, outdoorsy type.

    I read that Nixon during the US rapprochement with China was having an affair with a Chinese girl. She was no doubt giving Tricky Dick blow jobs in which she twirled her tongue over the top of his cock while looking up at him and smiling, which is what every powerful member of the nomenklatura wants.

  77. BackRowHeckler January 8, 2020 at 7:40 pm #

    In San Francisco, 66 smash and grab carthefts every single day.

    Here’s the beauty of it: this type of robbery isn’t even a crime anymore, so don’t bother reporting it to the police.

    LOVE WINS!!!

    How do you like it now, Gentlemen?

    Brh

    • malthuss January 8, 2020 at 11:55 pm #

      Crime is the new entitlement for Blacks.

    • axisboldaslove January 9, 2020 at 3:09 am #

      Easy solution: you leave nothing in your car and leave the doors unlocked when you depart from your vehicle. No broken windows, no theft. Works for me and works for people I know who live in S.F. No brainer.

      • benr January 9, 2020 at 8:49 am #

        That is stupid.
        One of these days you will open your drivers side door and find some homeless person camped out in it or worse used it as the toilet.

      • BackRowHeckler January 9, 2020 at 9:53 am #

        Axis

        Apparently its gangs from SoCal come north targeting tourists, who, being mere visitors, are not up on the ins and outs of street survival in SF lib dystopia (tiptoeing around IV needles, piles of human faces aggressive panhandlers)

        Gangsters know they can operate with impunity in this wide open city. It free for all madness..

        Brh

      • elysianfield January 9, 2020 at 12:02 pm #

        Axis,
        I remember reading a story years ago of street crime in New York City. A guy used to park his car on the street and put a sign in his window…”No Radio”. He discovered his car one day, with the window broken and a sign saying…”Get one”.

        You can file this under “Too good to be true”…but who knows?

        • elysianfield January 9, 2020 at 12:04 pm #

          “Works for me and works for people I know who live in S.F. No brainer.”

          Axis…is your vehicle worth stealing? You might park it in Oakland, unattended, unlocked, and find out.

  78. malthuss January 8, 2020 at 11:55 pm #

    They don’t need to be terrorists. –classic

    They don’t need to be terrorists but they are you dumb shit.

    • jim e January 9, 2020 at 1:03 am #

      Mr. kunstler… Stephen did it in threes ( i read his shorts in 101)… my friend’s brother is the greatest shipwright on the Yankee coast… how are you witth the WWW3? You have not raised any cannon fodder? At least mine is only southern…

    • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 7:02 am #

      malthuss

      Try to keep a civil tongue in your head, sunshine.

      And don’t believe everything you read on the interwebz just because some of it is true.

      snopes.com/fact-check/immigrants-california-wildfires/

      How many of the 24 arsonists in Australia are proven terrorists? Once you’ve provided hard evidence of the number of convicted, Jihad-motivated wildfire arsonists, you can go back to considering that it still does nothing to discredit the science of why Australia’s becoming more of a tinder box with each passing year.

      And since you’re here…

      snopes.com/fact-check/isis-fort-mcmurray-fire/

      factcheck.org/2019/04/notre-dame-fire-fuels-anti-muslim-conspiracy-theory/

      snopes.com/news/2019/04/17/misinformation-notre-dame-fire/

      • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 7:13 am #

        Elsewhere the information seems to be available that what the two teenage bozos were actually accused of was setting off fireworks that sparked a grass fire at Bright Park, Guildford.

        A year or two ago two numpties over here set off moor fires in Yorkshire with a portable BBQ. They tried to put it out but it took off (Yorkshire!!!) because of the dry conditions, so they called the Fire Brigade themselves in a panic. Let’s not go into how Yorkshire now gets quite that dry.

      • Nightowl January 9, 2020 at 8:17 am #

        A Web site run by an ex-porn star and a DNC operative.

        And a Web site backed by Obama (an Annenberg Board Chair) and pushed by the one and only HRC.

        Powerful factz.

        • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 8:50 am #

          I knew you’d be by Nightowl. You’re predictable. Obviously you have some of that concrete evidence you like regarding the information in the articles provided. No? Aw.

          • Majella January 9, 2020 at 9:05 am #

            Gee, Green Alba!

            Don’t you recognise when Nightowl ‘humiliates you in every thread’? You really do need to be lot more respectful of his withering take-downs, please.

          • Nightowl January 9, 2020 at 9:50 am #

            Yes, it is readily available.

            dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4730092/Snopes-brink-founder-accused-fraud-lying.html

            “Fact-checking website Snopes is on the verge of financial collapse after its owner was accused of embezzling company funds to pay for his contentious divorce battle and lavish overseas trips with his new wife, a former Las Vegas escort and porn actress”

            “Founding members of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge Board were: Susan Crown, vice president, Henry Crown Company; Patricia Graham, president, The Spencer Foundation, and former dean, Harvard Graduate School of Education; Stanley Ikenberry, president-emeritus, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign; Handy Lindsey, executive director, Field Foundation; Barack Obama; ”

            annenberg.org/annenberg-now/chicago-annenberg-challenge-records-0/

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 10:09 am #

            I’ve already seen the first one, Nightowl.

            I was hoping for some evidence regarding the actual statements in the actual articles, which were not all written by the owner.

            The senior owner of a butcher I use was done for using kiddy porn (dobbed in by a member of staff who saw him). He’s gone, but their sausages are still excellent.

            The facts remain that:

            (1) a hypothetical given number of fires started by Muslim yoofs would not mean that it is sensible to attribute all such fires, in the first instance, to Jihadis, for reasons of Jihad, and

            (2) even if every wildfire everywhere was started by a Jihadi, this would have no effect on the truth of the AGW proposition, however much you’d like it to, although the fires themselves would clearly add to the problem of AGW, being caused by the ‘A’ part, both directly and indirectly.

          • Nightowl January 9, 2020 at 10:40 am #

            I didn’t comment on the specific entries; I did not even read them.

            I approach Snopes and co. much as I do emails from Nigerian princes.

        • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 9:00 am #

          And the information about the bozos using fireworks in a park during a dry season didn’t come from Snopes.

          But it was helpfully missed out of all the rightwing websites that reported their conviction for starting a fire in a park, to make it sound as if they’d obviously started the fire deliberately.

          Oh, and they smirked when they were told it was serious because there were blazes all over NSW. That was included in all the articles that missed out the bit about the fireworks.

          Because everyone knows that when people want to start a fire they don’t buy a box of matches, they buy a box of fireworks. During the fireworks season.

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 9:25 am #

            Smirking teenagers shocker!!!! 🙂

        • malthuss January 9, 2020 at 11:17 am #

          facts, yes. thanks.

          snopes is for dopes.

      • benr January 9, 2020 at 8:52 am #

        Starting fires was in a captured jihadis training manual.
        As was the run planes into building routine and this was in the mid to late 90’s.
        You can post snopes nonsense all day long however snopes is the self fact checker but no authority on anything.

        • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 8:56 am #

          Happy to take any concrete verifiable evidence you’ve got of actual events, their perpetrators and their motivation, benr.

          None of it changes the evidence on climate change, however.

          • Nightowl January 9, 2020 at 9:54 am #

            I am flattered by your continued adoption of my phrasing.

            I’ll have some new material soon.

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 10:02 am #

            Don’t be flattered, Nightowl. Being easily flattered is not a good character trait. Hubris leads to nemesis. And your opinion of yourself is already high.

          • Majella January 9, 2020 at 8:22 pm #

            ” I am flattered by your continued adoption of my phrasing.”

            What a tosser.

  79. wpa_ccc January 9, 2020 at 1:03 am #

    I celebrate Mr. Trump, who calls himself a stable genius sent by God, in his restrained remarks today, after being chastened by the mullahs.

    Yesterday Mr. Draft Dodger said of the Iranian ballistic missile attack: “All is well … so far so good.” Echoing Berkeley peace and love circles.

    Today our illegitimate war criminal president said this to the people and leaders of Iran:

    We want you to have a future and a great future, one that you deserve, one of prosperity at home in harmony with the nations of the world. The United States is ready to embrace peace with all who seek it. I want to thank you

    Trump is bowing down before the mullahs. He wants peace. We must support Trump in this effort to embrace the mullahs of Iran.

    • benr January 9, 2020 at 8:56 am #

      Another whack a mole anti-Trumper like flies on a turd.
      Tell me oh dense one illegitimate how?
      War criminal for killing an enemy combatant?
      Stumping for Iran sure does not make you look very good.
      Are you posting from Iran because it sure seems like it.
      Or are you another whacked out Democrat lamenting the loss of the beat from Mena the cattle baron queen?

      • Majella January 9, 2020 at 9:10 am #

        Typical. Someone posts Himself’s OWN WORDS and benr gets all prickly and defensive. Rather than argue the point, benr gets all ‘ad hom’, as usual. Really sad.

        • Nightowl January 9, 2020 at 9:38 am #

          Looks to me like he wants proof of claims from a troll.

          Speaking of which, when do we get all of that evidence for the war Trump supposedly started?

          And for your fruit-loop Russian Conspiracy theory? Or for your unhinged claims about his supposed “crimes” in the Ukraine.

          We’ve been kept waiting far too long.

          • benr January 9, 2020 at 9:48 am #

            Ding ding ding we have a winner.

            Simply put I am sick of hearing the bleating Democrat rabble spew nonsense with zero facts or evidence to back their insipid claims.

  80. Nightowl January 9, 2020 at 8:08 am #

    Glacier National Park removing signs claiming glaciers will be gone by 2020.

    nationalfile.com/glacier-national-park-set-to-remove-all-glaciers-will-be-gone-by-2020-signage/

    Science not settled, it seems.

    • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 8:53 am #

      The science is never settled, Nightowl.

      nytimes.com/2019/11/08/opinion/sunday/science-climate-change.html

      • benr January 9, 2020 at 8:57 am #

        Odd considering that is what the cult of AGW has been mouth breathing for the last decade.

        • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 9:04 am #

          No it hasn’t, benr. It’s been saying that the evidence shows that human activity is highly likely (that’s over 90% in scientific speak) to be the main driver of the current iteration of climate change.

          And that is still the case, as it was in 2000. It’s just that scientific observation is demonstrating that climate change and its manifestations are happening more quickly than predicted.

          But don’t worry, be happy… it will affect others long before it affects you.

          • SoftStarLight January 9, 2020 at 9:38 am #

            What utter deception! I guess the open discussions of jailing “Climate Deniers” is just some bad pipe dream then. Funny, because I here that AGW is totally settled science ALL THE TIME, and that anyone else saying anything differently is either a paid hack or a simple moron.

          • benr January 9, 2020 at 9:55 am #

            Again no proof massaged facts and the science is settled rhetoric.

            No one can even prove CO2 causes warming its theory. This theory is then used to get funding to produce ever more dire claims.
            Cow farts are destroying the world and the claims keep getting more ridiculous.
            Stop eating meat!
            Stop taking showers!
            Stop breathing!
            Don’t use common sense!
            Don’t think about how many trees HAVE been chopped down in the last thousand years and not replanted it has to be CARS!
            Don’t think about the rain forest being burned all day every day its the cars stupid!

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 10:16 am #

            “What utter deception! I guess the open discussions of jailing “Climate Deniers” is just some bad pipe dream then.”

            As far as I am aware, it was a stupid thing said by one stupid person, who was not a scientist, that started off this particular trope. So quit with the pearl clutching.

            “Funny, because I here that AGW is totally settled science ALL THE TIME, and that anyone else saying anything differently is either a paid hack or a simple moron.”

            No, again it is not ‘totally settled science’ in that the finer details of what will happen to the climate in every place and at every time are not ‘totally settled’ and never will be. But the broad trends are undeniable, except for deniers. Who are not ‘morons’ but they do generally have agendas, even if these are personal and not corporate.

          • Nightowl January 9, 2020 at 10:18 am #

            GA is learning as she goes.

            We have gone from “the science is settled,” to “its not settled but the scientists agree human activity is ‘highly likely’ the cause.”

            Soon we will be discussing whether computer models are accurate ways to predict actions and reactions in an extraordinarily complex ecosystem.

            Then we will hit the powerful moment where she will either double down in full cognitive dissonance, or admit that we know very little and never hear from those outside of that massive 90-odd percent of scientists who like, all are totally sure of everything.

            Scott Adams does an interesting comparison regarding the “consensus” talking point, comparing it to how a scam works and why it works. Sounds silly, but the logic used is very difficult to argue against.

            I remain unconvinced either way, as no layman has the background to suss any of this out regardless of what they read. If the situation were as dire as some claim, industrialization of the third world would be entirely off the table, as nothing we do in the West can offset the emissions created by the process and the millons of new consumers and the massive increase in their progeny that result.

            In fact, a mass extinction event is about all that would work.

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 10:46 am #

            “GA is learning as she goes.”

            One thing that is totally ‘settled’ is your inability to respond to people without self-aggrandisation and being patronising. We know you’re clever, Nightowl, you don’t need to keep reminding us. Have a back slap, Nightowl – you’re a clever boy and you’ve done well in life.

            I have never said ‘the science is settled’ in the way that you mean – you are excellent at creating straw men. The position of the bulk of scientists has always been that human activity is ‘highly likely’ to be the main driver of AGW. That has never changed. ‘Highly likely’ has a very specific meaning in scientific terms and if they said anything other than ‘highly likely’ they wouldn’t be scientists. Non-scientists, in their ignorance, try to weaponise this.

            For all practical purposes, the evidence that humans are principally causing the current iteration of climate change is pretty much incontrovertible, and no amount of quibbling of the details of what the weather forecast is for northern Germany in March 2095 changes this.

            Maybe someone will discover that tobacco doesn’t cause cancer after all. You can keep hoping.

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 10:52 am #

            “I remain unconvinced either way, as no layman has the background to suss any of this out regardless of what they read. ”

            That’s not strictly true. I was listening to a scientist talking a week or two ago who said that it actually is something lay people can read (albeit with effort and some basis of scientific literacy) precisely because it’s not just all maths, but is about actual tangible phenomena that lay people can understand.

            I think if you were to find out how many actual scientific articles the naysayers had bothered to read – even in scientific journals like New Scientist that are aimed at both scientists and lay readers, you’d have to admit that most of them made their minds up before they’d read much actual science and thereafter headed specifically for denier sources.

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 12:32 pm #

            “Don’t think about the rain forest being burned all day every day its the cars stupid!”

            In the UK the rain forest was cut down centuries ago to make way for sheep, which has indeed turned out to be pretty stupid. They take up a lot of space to produce such a tiny proportion of our diet. We’d be better letting the forest grow again. At least everyone but the sheep farmers would. Perhaps cheap post-Brexit imports will lead to rewilding! The sheep farmers can learn to code.

            The oak forests of old England were of course cut down to make the ships that went out to take the gold that the Spanish had already taken from the Incas. Lizzie I used it to pay off the English national debt and with what was left she set up the Levant Company, which morphed into the East India Company which morphed into…

            Great empires from little acorns grow.

            But regarding the Amazon rainforest being burned all day every day, I’ll think you’ll find a lot of people have protested against that too. But Big Soya and Big Oil are winning, because they have their own Trump. And the real Trump likes burgers, so ‘go, soya’.

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 12:36 pm #

            I forgot Big Palm Oil.

          • BackRowHeckler January 9, 2020 at 12:46 pm #

            Benr

            You left out “start eating insects and worms”. I’m not sh#ttin ya, I’ve actually seen that as a solution to Climate Change in columns in the Guardian of London.

            Of course what they really mean is you and me — the lumpenprols — eating insects and worms, while they themselves, our climate overlords, fine dine on Kobe beef and Maine lobster at their monthly Climate change conferences in Venice, Monaco, Cost de Sol and Honolulu.

            Brh

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 1:39 pm #

            You forgot Glasgow, brh. We’ll give them porridge and turnips.

            And deep-fried Mars Bars.

        • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 9:06 am #

          And you shouldn’t confuse what you read in da paperz about ‘what scientists said’ with what scientists are actually saying. Or indeed what one random scientist is saying with the carefully considered information provided by the bulk of scientists.

          • benr January 9, 2020 at 9:58 am #

            What are you saying the news is lying to us>
            FAKE newz!
            So Trump is right again?
            That must have been a bitter pill to swallow and repeat.

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 10:22 am #

            Yes the news outlets exaggerate, miss things out and include cherry-picked information. And they have a history of having very poor science correspondents, because good scientists don’t generally want jobs as newspaper science correspondents. Although they’re not all bad – some newspapers are much worse than others. But I’ve read articles (by non-scientists) in the Telegraph, for instance, that completely contradict the newspaper’s own science correspondent, because the writer of the article has an agenda that the science doesn’t suit. What’s new?

            I don’t know anyone who had to wait for Trump to know this. Most of us knew it from early on by comparing what different newspapers with different editorial biases reported about the same things. Long before the interwebz.

            That’s why everyone on here reads a variety of sources, including this one.

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 10:25 am #

            Sensible people read the Telegraph knowing what its agenda is and the Guardian knowing what its agenda is. You will find facts in both and opinion pieces in both.

          • capt spaulding January 9, 2020 at 11:44 am #

            Well Alba, it’s not always easy to make those 97% of scientists agree to keep the lie about Climate Change alive. All I can say is: Thank God for that 3% of principled, forward looking scientists who work for the energy industry, who keep trying to get the truth out to the people.

            They are laboring under the same difficulties as the 3% of Astronomers who are trying to get out the facts about the moon being made of green cheese. It’s a thankless job, and these people suffer greatly to get the knowledge out. Some day the world will know the truth, and don’t even get me started on the twin towers.

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 8:45 pm #

            “Well Alba, it’s not always easy to make those 97% of scientists agree to keep the lie about Climate Change alive. ”

            Maybe they’ve all been honeytrapped and blackmailed, captS.

            Something to do with Salma Hayek – elysianfield might know. 🙂

      • Nightowl January 9, 2020 at 9:31 am #

        That is what I keep saying.

        • elysianfield January 9, 2020 at 1:28 pm #

          “That is what I keep saying.”

          Owl,
          You are an intelligent guy/gal/whatever. Understand that anything posted on this blog is subject to being brutally parsed by the readership. Whatever you write, and your phraseology will require you to defend your position…always.

          Don’t be offended. We are all adults. It is the nature of this site to question.

          Understand qualifiers…and use them. Absolutes rarely exist…and offering an absolute will usually get you an argument.

          “Don’t Taze me, Bro!”

          • Majella January 9, 2020 at 8:25 pm #

            Absolutely!

          • Nightowl January 10, 2020 at 4:37 am #

            Nothing I wrote was brutally parsed, and I don’t think you understood my post, or you read it without context.

            The point I have made repeatedly (long before this thread) is that we don’t really know shit.

  81. BackRowHeckler January 9, 2020 at 9:27 am #

    GA

    What do you make of Honorable Mayors Khan and DiBlasio issuing a statement last week that their respective cities — London and New York — would be ‘divesting’ from oil company investments in the near future “to fight climate change”? They’re targeting the 7 or 8 major western companies apparently, Exxon, Sunoco, Texaco etc, publicly traded, not state owned enterprises like Saudi Aramco, Rosneft in Russia, Total in France, Sinopec and Pemex in China, which wouldn’t be affected by the action. Do they realize western oil companies account for less than 10% of total worldwide petroleum production, and if they sufficiently damage them it would make us more reliant on state owned foreign suppliers. Also, reading their statement, they’re giving the impression, without explicitly stating it, that London and NYC can be run without oil, natgas and coal inputs, but on windmills and solar panels. Do they actually believe this? Do you believe it?

    Brh

    • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 10:00 am #

      You should know my position by now, brh.

      It is that:

      (1) Anthropogenic climate change is real.

      (2) We do not seem to have any way in the foreseeable future of totally dispensing with fossil fuels. (But nor do we seem to have any way of persuading people not to buy endless unnecessary shit in an attempt to find ‘happiness’.)

      (3) There are nevertheless measures we could take to mitigate (but not totally solve) the (CO2) problem and in many cases these measures would also help leverage the remaining oil so that we might make more measured use of it than just burning it all. For both AGW and resource-depletion reasons it would naturally have been more helpful if this process had started 50 years ago. (“They would not listen, they’re not listening still – Perhaps they never will…” .)

      (4) I’d like to think informing the public that for reasons of both climate change AND resource depletion they’d be wise to drastically reduce their unnecessary consumption as much as humanly possible, but I remain ambivalent about whether the general public could cope with knowing the truth about our predicament without totally losing what rationality they still have left. I am also aware that we are in a bind because our economies are set up to require permanent growth, which is neither desirable nor possible. In that sense we’re like the people on the bus in Speed, but with less likelihood of a happy ending. Financial collapse or ecological collapse. Or imagination and pitchforks?

      (5) (3) may just be kicking the fossil fuel depletion can down that road, but I’d rather it was kicked down the road than blown up in our faces any earlier than it need be. That’s because I’m a frail human and I don’t relish slaughter and mayhem. I’d like my grandson to be an adult before he has to face slaughter and mayhem, but not just my grandson. As many little grandsons and granddaughters as possible.

      (6) I’m also ambivalent on nuclear power, for all the reasons we already know, for and against.

      (6) I don’t ascribe any particular wisdom to Messrs Khan or DiBlasio.

      Or to me.

      • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 10:31 am #

        (7) of course, at the end – I’d inserted one and didn’t finish the renumbering.

        Re (5) I’d like Nightowl’s little boy to have a chance at adult life too, so leveraging the remaining oil and not pissing it away any faster than need be should be a priority for Nightowl too, I’d have thought. And other people on here whose little boys and girls I don’t know about.

        • JohnAZ January 9, 2020 at 11:02 am #

          The dire effects of AGW are already in place. Like the Freon correction for the ozone hole, it will take decades to correct if we start today. GA, the world needs to figure out how to adapt to AGWs effects AND how to run the world without Affordable oil.

          I am 72, and sort of glad I will not be around to see the double whammy that is coming. My grandson will be middle aged right in the middle of it. He will have to adapt, just like everyone else’s grandchildren. We cannot stop it. It is already here.

          Do not try to blame Trump for it. The AGW effect started with the invention of the internal combustion engine, the car, the tractor, industrial agriculture, the airplane, plastics, chemicals, medicines. Trump is only bearing the PR effects of what had been building up for a century.

          I am convinced God has an ironic sense of humor. What we considered to be the wonderful contributions to the building of our civilization are now considered evil and miraculously must be removed. Ain’t gonna happen!

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 11:28 am #

            I don’t recall mentioning Trump, JohnAZ, he’s a detail and takes up little of my thought space. But his science denial isn’t helpful. It’s perfectly possible to make a case against the ‘nothing but renewables’ fantasy without trying to discredit scientists. That kind of attitude spreads to all sorts of other things in people’s minds, which is why we have children dying of measles again all over the world for no good reason.

            I’m not sure I share your ‘optimism’ about the amount of time we have before the full effects of the double whammy – I think you or I could very possibly see it. It just depends whether collapse (financial, ecological) plays out traumatically or gradually in the long run. And of course I agree with you that they’re both already playing out – but the majority of people aren’t aware of what they’re witnessing. Witness Boris Johnson and the sunlit uplands he claims to be leading us to through new Global Britain. All that money spent on his education and he knows even less than I do about our predicament (but then I’ve always had less far to fall so the realisation costs me less psychologically!).

            But it amuses me to see how people rail against the developed world giving up a bit to help the ‘developing’ (haha) world, when a large part of what we have is due to the structured pillaging of the less fortunate over centuries, whether through empire or through ‘loans’.

            Reminds me of the story about the little boy who complains to his dad that ‘it’s not fair’, and his dad says ‘no, it isn’t fair, son, and, trust me, you really don’t want it to be fair’.

          • BackRowHeckler January 9, 2020 at 12:38 pm #

            GA

            Now China is giving the ‘loans’.

            Brh

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 12:49 pm #

            That’s true, brh. But I recall when there was a call for a debt jubilee for the ‘third world’ back in the old century, it was demonstrated that the amount of aid – from countries and individuals – that went to said ‘third world’ was utterly dwarfed by the interest being funnelled back to Western banks for development loans.

        • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 11:56 am #

          Re nuclear power, I must find out how the French dispose of their waste. I was working in France in the 70s when some of my young French colleagues were protesting against the first fast breeder reactor that was commissioned and built not far from where we were. They’ve been very dependent on nuclear energy for decades.

          There were government advertising slogans on the telly all the time saying ‘en France on n’a pas de pétrole, mais on a des idées’ (in France we have no oil, but plenty of ideas), so it would be interesting to find out what ideas they’ve had for disposing of the stuff.

          • elysianfield January 9, 2020 at 7:32 pm #

            “Re: nuclear power, I must find out how the French dispose of their waste.”

            Alba,
            While you are at it, find out why the hell they consider Jerry Lewis a genius….

          • GreenAlba January 9, 2020 at 8:38 pm #

            The French have different tastes, EF. I recall a French ‘cousin’, in the broad sense, telling me they had the Benny Hill Show running as part of children’s TV.

      • SoftStarLight January 9, 2020 at 10:39 am #

        There is a lot there that we can agree on. So I really don’t know that I see a major problem at the end of the day. What I mean is that ok, for instance, with your point number one. I agree with you that climate changes. We may not see eye to eye on the anthropogenic part, however, I will not argue with you that at least anthropogenic activities are changing and destroying habitats and ecologies. And in that respect I am interested in limiting the activities that destroy our environment so clearly like sprawl, the clear