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If you thought banking in our time was a miserable racket — which it is, of course, and by “racket” I mean a criminal enterprise — then so-called health care has it beat by a country mile, with an added layer of sadism and cruelty built into its operations. Lots of people willingly sign onto mortgages and car loans they wouldn’t qualify for in an ethically sound society, but the interest rates and payments are generally spelled out on paper. They know what they’re signing on for, even if the contract is reckless and stupid on the parts of both borrower and lender. Pension funds and insurance companies foolishly bought bundled mortgage bonds of this crap concocted in the housing bubble. They did it out of greed and desperation, but a little due diligence would have clued them into the fraud being served up by the likes of Goldman Sachs.

Medicine is utterly opaque cost-wise, and that is the heart of the issue. Nobody in the system will say what anything costs and nobody wants to because it would break the spell that they work in an honest, legit business. There is no rational scheme for the cost of any service from one “provider” to the next or even one patient to the next. Anyway, the costs are obscenely inflated and concealed in so many deliberately deceptive coding schemes that even actuaries and professors of economics are confounded by their bills. The services are provided when the customer is under the utmost duress, often life-threatening, and the outcome even in a successful recovery from illness is financial ruin that leaves a lot of people better off dead.

It is a hostage racket, in plain English, a disgrace to the profession that has adopted it, and an insult to the nation. All the idiotic negotiations in congress around the role of insurance companies are a grand dodge to avoid acknowledging the essential racketeering of the “providers” — doctors and hospitals. We are never going to reform it in its current incarnation. For all his personality deformities, President Trump is right in saying that ObamaCare is going to implode. It is only a carbuncle on the gangrenous body of the US medical establishment. The whole system will go down with it.

The New York Times departed from its usual obsessions with Russian turpitude and transgender life last week to publish a valuable briefing on this aspect of the health care racket: Those Indecipherable Medical Bills? They’re One Reason Health Care Costs So Much by Elisabeth Rosenthal. Much of this covers ground exposed in the now famous March 4, 2013 Time Magazine cover story (it took up the whole issue): Bitter Pill: Why Medical Bills Are Killing Us, by Steven Brill. The American public and its government have been adequately informed about the gross and lawless chiseling rampant in every quarter of medicine. The system is one of engineered criminality. It is inflicting ruin on millions. It is really a wonder that the public has not stormed the hospitals with pitchforks and flaming brands to string up that gang in the parking lots high above their Beemers and Lexuses.

There are only two plausible arcs to this story. One is that the nation might face the facts and resort to the Single Payer system found in virtually every other nation that affects to be civilized. There is no other way to eliminate the deliberate racketeering. The other outcome would be the inevitable collapse of the system and its eventual re-set to a much less complex, cash-on-the-barrelhead, local clinic-based model with far less heroic high-tech interventions available for the broad public, but much more affordable basic care. Both outcomes would require jettisoning the immense overburden of administrative dross that clutters up the current model, with its absurd tug-of-war between the price-gouging hospital “Chargemaster” clerks and the sadistic insurance company monitors bent on denying treatment to their sick and hapless “customers” (hostages). Be warned: these represent tens of thousands of supposedly “good” jobs. Of course, they are “good” because they pay middle class wages, of which there are fewer and fewer elsewhere in the economy. But, they are well-paid because of the grotesquely profitable racket they serve. They’ve turned an entire generation of office workers into servants of criminal enterprise. Imagine the damage this does to the soul of our culture.

My suggestion for real reform of the medical racket looks to historical precedent:

In 1932 (before the election of FDR, by the way), the US Senate formed a commission to look into the causes of the 1929 Wall Street Crash and recommend corrections in banking regulation to obviate future episodes like it. It is known to history as the Pecora Commission, after its chief counsel Ferdinand Pecora, an assistant Manhattan DA, who performed gallantly in his role. The commission ran for two years. Its hearings led to prison terms for many bankers and ultimately to the Glass-Steagall Act of 1932, which kept banking relatively honest and stable until its nefarious repeal in 1999 under President Bill Clinton — which led rapidly to a new age of Wall Street malfeasance, still underway.

The US Senate needs to set up an equivalent of the Pecora Commission to thoroughly expose the cost racketeering in medicine, enable the prosecution of the people driving it, and propose a Single Payer remedy for flushing it away. The Department of Justice can certainly apply the RICO anti-racketeering statutes against the big health care conglomerates and their executives personally. I don’t know why it has not done so already — except for the obvious conclusion that our elected officials have been fully complicit in the medical rackets, which is surely the case of new Secretary of Health and Human Services, Tom Price, a former surgeon and congressman who trafficked in medical stocks during his years representing his suburban Atlanta district. A new commission could bypass this unprincipled clown altogether.

It is getting to the point where we have to ask ourselves if we are even capable of being a serious people anymore. Medicine is now a catastrophe every bit as pernicious as the illnesses it is supposed to treat, and a grave threat to a nation that we’re supposed to care about. What party, extant or waiting to be born, will get behind this cleanup operation?

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357 Responses to “Racket of Rackets”

  1. FincaInTheMountains March 31, 2017 at 7:49 am #

    Since the story of what exactly happened in the last 2 days of the year 2016 could soon become the national headlines, I urge all readers of that blog who have some Russian-speaking friends to have them listen to the interview of official speaker of Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova:


    Moreover, I urge the host of this blog who has a prominent Russian-speaking friend to have him transcribe that interview into English.

    Here are some excerpts from the interview (translated by me):

    What was the essence of this combination, an absolutely hellish combination?

    On December 29 they (US Administration) declares the expulsion of Russian diplomats who are given 72 hours to leave the United States and 72 hours later their diplomatic immunity is stripped, their visas revoked and they become illegal.

    This is announced on the 29th of December, and as we all clearly understand December 30 and 31 are days for which air tickets are bought 2 to 3 months in advance and certainly not for 107 people – including family members or 35 diplomats, tickets simply impossible to get.

    Why are they doing this? When do the 72 hours end?

    72 hours end on January 1 and it would seem to a person not in a know that on January 1 they could leave. But the administration knew full well that on January 1, no direct flights from Washington to Moscow. The first direct flight is only on 2 January.

    And their visas expire on the first. That is, if on January 2 these people would come to the airport, they would simply be arrested, and the fact that they would have been arrested I have no doubt.

    So, General Flynn most likely was in communication with the Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak regarding avoiding an international conflict that could have lead to a nuclear war and arrange for evacuation of the diplomats.

    I think that Trump was aware of the situation, but asked Flynn not to tell VP Pence.

    General Flynn acted as a noble American officer and a true American patriot.

    Unfortunately, technically speaking he was in violation of the Logan Act of 1799, and could be taken an advantage of by bunch of Flying Monkeys-Lawyers and unscrupulous Media, unless the situation is taken to its logical conclusion and the fact that US were illegally ruled by unelected Junta since June 10, 2016 would be made public.

    • Paulo March 31, 2017 at 10:41 am #


      “General Flynn acted as a noble American officer and a true American patriot”

      I have matched numerous Flynn interviews and speeches over the last year. I would not describe the man as noble, sorry. He seems like a dick. Plus, all his financial shenanigans indicate a ‘me first’ attitude.

      You can buy big rolls of tinfoil at Costco. It might help with the conspiracy ‘energy’.

      To quote Flynn: “Lock her up”. hmmm, that old pointing finger pointing back thingee might just be illuminating another swamp creature masquerading as a human.

      To quote Flynn: “You only need immunity if you are guilty of a crime”.

      Pretty rich.

      • Paulo March 31, 2017 at 10:42 am #

        sorry meant to say watched…not matched. Couldn’t find an edit feature.

      • DA March 31, 2017 at 11:05 am #

        Admittedly, Flynn’s not exactly the Ivory Snow girl, but “nobility,” if such a word can actually be used in any DC context, is a relative term these days.

        I’m still convinced the whole thing is a witch hunt, but Trump brought much of this on himself by demanding Flynn’s resignation in the first place. All of which makes me wonder, once again, if this isn’t all just DC high kabuki to distract the masses from more serious issues.

        • outsider April 1, 2017 at 10:59 am #

          According to some sources the Deep State, despite appearances, does not want a destabilizing war with Iran. So when Flynn menacingly put Iran “on notice” for its legal test firing of a missile, he had to go. Firing him based on his talks with Russia was just a ruse – and was a boon to the military/security complex. I still think Pence set him up.

          • DA April 1, 2017 at 5:19 pm #

            Thanks outsider. Like the many current CIA operatives and of yore; the ‘ways and means’ of the insiders available to us outsiders these days is mostly a mystery, and must thus always necessarily be reassembled and verified piece meal after the fact.

            To put a more positive spin on it: we’re ALL analysts now!


    • aNanyMouse March 31, 2017 at 1:20 pm #

      Finca, I don’t see why the lack of direct flights from Washington to Moscow could bring on a nuke exchange. There must have been flights from DC to some other country, from which these Russians could then fly to their homeland.
      I can’t believe that all such countries would be so under the boot of Bastinda, that none of them would accept these Russians until they could get such a connecting flight.
      I’ll grant that this 72 hour deadline was brutally provocative. Why not a week? Why such a rush, on a weekend which figured to such a mess for travel?

      • aNanyMouse March 31, 2017 at 1:36 pm #

        Correction: “… figured to BE such a mess….”

  2. onehunglo March 31, 2017 at 7:59 am #

    JG you very wise indeed!!!

    best way to destroy cancer growth is deprive of nutrient.

    Confucius say, “the superior man understand what is right. the inferior man understand what will sell.”

    many in you old republic indenture servant to master; many case master is love of comfort.

    and many American love comfort so much they acquire comfort disease of obesity, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and chronic depression, then require expensive pill to treat.

    all due to failure to understand what is right.

    let not you heart be troubled.

    may God be with you.


  3. SteveO March 31, 2017 at 8:06 am #

    “The US Senate needs to set up an equivalent of the Pecora Commission to thoroughly expose the cost racketeering in medicine, enable the prosecution of the people driving it, and propose a Single Payer remedy for flushing it away.”

    History shows that it will take the medical equivalent of the 1929 economic collapse for the Senate to act. Even after such a crash, so long as the medical/insurance complex has any money to bribe politicians, no one will go to jail and single payer will remain off limits due to “free market” idiocy.

    • zaphod42 March 31, 2017 at 12:16 pm #

      “. .. . no one will go to jail and single payer will remain off limits due to “free market” idiocy.”

      Never mind that there is no free market for medical treatment. And until this is resolved forget about research into cures and preventions… no money in that. Treatment, though? Yeah. Big Bucks!

  4. Dumbedup March 31, 2017 at 8:10 am #

    Jim, glad you wrote about medical care. All the discussion has been about reforming how we pay for medical care not how we provide it. One of the reasons I supported Bernie Sanders was because he supported single-payer healthcare. He has recently (or is about to) propose a bill that would reform the entire system, not the rackets built around the insurance model.

    The way I see it we can do one of two things. Repeal all the special bills that permit health care providers to run their rackets and enforce anti-trust and RICO laws already on the books or we throw out the multi-carrier and multi-coverage mish mash we now have and go to a SP system. (aka, MFA – Medicare for All)

    As I see it the Republicans will fight any government interference with the profit model of their big donors like the CofC. They will fight it forever – literally to the death. Even if it passed, even if the nation went bankrupt over healthcare, they would fight it for a 100 years. It took them over 80 years to get Glass-Steagall repealed, but they kept at it.

    This kind of reform will not happen with this Republican Party. For that matter, it won’t happen with this Democratic Party. We need political reform first. Term limits, government ethics reforms and for God’s sake do something about the Citizens United case. Billionaires are not only directing policy in this country they are teaching us what and how to think. This kind of money in politics and government-business revolving door alliance has got to end before we can tackle these problems.

    But I’m afraid it is too late. The hook is set.

    • Dumbedup March 31, 2017 at 8:12 am #

      Single payor healthcare or MFA would have to reform the entire system and not just the insurance side of it. It would have to include transparency and cost control.

      • Quatermain March 31, 2017 at 10:02 am #

        A single payer system would merely kick the can down the road. Witness health care in the UK or Canada. It just another ponzi scheme based on a perpetual growth model and socialist wet dreams. Localized, cash on the barrel head, clinics could provide what is actually needed at a fraction of the cost.

        • DA March 31, 2017 at 10:57 am #

          I agree. High ticket things caused by extravagant life styles would need to go as well. I know people who are doing and are being advised to do joint replacements now purely as preventative therapy! Unbelievable!

        • Paulo March 31, 2017 at 10:59 am #

          Canadians receive healthcare at 50% of the cost with better outcomes.

          Problems? Yes. People willing to address them? Always.

          It does require more taxation, which is still way less than all the co-pays, premiums, and add-on charges shoved down the throat of American health care customers.

          6 years ago I contracted cancer. It was caught at stage 1 on a routine physical. In my 5 years of treatment I received surgery at a hospital by a cancer specialist, many many X-rays and ct scans, lab services for blood work, follow-up consultations with the specialist, and was declared cancer-free and released from the surveillance program 7 months ago. I am now back to just having routine physicals.

          Our family is healthy and eat proper food. We are not overweight…nor do we smoke. But, we are all active. In the past I have had a broken leg, knee surgeries, and herniated discs from working too hard/lifting.

          I have yet to receive a bill for services, appointments, or medications.

          It might one day have to be reduced, but for now the system is doing quite well. canadians would riot and go to war to protect our single-payer. My response is not just rhetoric from a POV. It is a simple family story. My wife contracted type 1 diabetes at age 10. She is now 57 and doing very well. healthy. I don’t think she would call it a Ponzi Scheme.

          The following illustrates how most Canadians view healthcare.

          re Banting:

          The Legacy of Insulin

          “Banting, Macleod, and the rest of the team patented their insulin extract but gave away all their rights to the University of Toronto, which would later use the income from insulin to fund new research.

          Very soon after the discovery of insulin, the medical firm Eli Lilly started large-scale production of the extract. As soon as 1923, the firm was producing enough insulin to supply the entire North American continent.

          Although insulin doesn’t cure diabetes, it’s one of the biggest discoveries in medicine. When it came, it was like a miracle. People with severe diabetes and only days left to live were saved. And as long as they kept getting their insulin, they could live an almost normal life.”

          • outsider April 1, 2017 at 11:15 am #

            Good story Paulo.

            But, even if we living in the exceptional USA (I almost said Americans, but you guys are Americans too) developed the compassion of Canadians, single payer has no chance of working here. First and foremost, we would have to greatly shrink our bloated military budget to pay for it – which ain’t happening anytime soon. Second, we have far too many people from all over the world who have nothing in common. Whites, for example, don’t want to pay the medical bills of third world immigrants, legal or not. I understand that Canada, with its PC welcoming of millions of immigrants, is now having the same problem.

        • cbeard April 1, 2017 at 2:46 pm #

          Localized cash clinics sounds wonderful. But, some won’t have the cash and all they would provide would be basic bare care. The wealthy would be the only ones getting state of the art treatment. Its always been that way and I don’t think it will ever change.

          • DA April 1, 2017 at 8:53 pm #

            Probably not. Unfortunately, that’s probably the inevitable end game in any purely capitalist system. Wanna go beyond that, and you have to be at least willing to mouth the word socialist – shhh… – that word will get you KILLED in these parts!

    • ozone March 31, 2017 at 9:16 am #

      I’m afraid you’re right. Recently, it seems that the only way a program can be “reformed” is in a panic as it falls to pieces and very little is left to be salvaged. (Thus ensuring complete failure as well as throwing good money after bad.)

      In the pursuit of convenience and comfort (for the lumpenprole) and power and wealth (for the elite), foresight has been abandoned.

      I agree with your sensible reforms, but also agree that sustaining the unsustainable status quo seems to be the only job that our political system is engaged in. I am not looking forward to the cruel reckoning that this will engender and I’m [futilely] hoping the civil war will be confined to the halls of power.

    • My Point of View March 31, 2017 at 1:10 pm #

      Republicans will fight any MFA scheme, just as they always have done since at least as far back as 1948 when Truman tried to do it. The GOP is the party of let the people eat shit and die; they are the true and original death panel.

  5. pequiste March 31, 2017 at 8:13 am #

    It’s soooo simple; but it ain’t easy: Medicare for all.

    Difficulty lies with dismantling the “Ka-ching” model of “health-care,” that has as its symbol the caduceus, and replacing it with preventative model of health and wise medical intervention.

    Aesculapius staff has not got a snowball’s chance in Hell under the sway of Hyper-Capitalism.


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    • onehunglo March 31, 2017 at 8:25 am #

      ah, another faux intellectual use obscure word to make point.

      however, onehunglo agree best way to stop cancer growth is cut off nutrient.

      nutrient of crazy profit motive in treating patient just as severe as patient suffer ill health due to pursuit of love of comfort.

      best is pursuit of love of wisdom.

      let not you heart be troubled.

      may God be with you.


      • pequiste March 31, 2017 at 9:03 am #

        “…faux intellectual…” + “…obscure word…”

        Which word is foreign to you?

        Do you have access to an on-line dictionary? Of course you do silly! ( or perhaps you are really Mi Dum Fuk?)

        The CFN is a place to be challenged by a spectrum of ideas, learn new words and to expand one’s mind.

        Is your reference in any way related to your use of a faux pidgin-English with stereotyped Chinese accent, grammar and phonetics?

        • capt spaulding March 31, 2017 at 11:25 am #

          Well pequiste, the trolls here are not much interested in being challenged by a new spectrum of ideas. They are here to massage their egos. None of them would be allowed at my table, and the sad part is that gleaning (another obscure word) information from this web site is like trying to pick fly shit out of pepper.

          • onehunglo April 1, 2017 at 8:24 am #

            “….for the taking of offense rests in the bosom of the stupid ones.” -Ecclesiastes 7:9

            you and you kind not like message, than resort to censorship.

            still, onehunglo bless those who curse, as it has been written.

            best health is understand truth, way, and light.

            just as happiness is a choice, so is anger; many here wear proud ribbon of anger to detriment of good health.

            let not you heart be troubled.

            may God be with you.


    • Ishabaka March 31, 2017 at 8:53 am #

      Please explain how the preventative model of health would have solved Mr. Kuntsler’s two medical issues he has blogged about: a hip that was replaced surgically, and a coronary artery bypass.

      • pequiste March 31, 2017 at 9:13 am #

        I suspect, but do not know for certain, and I am no physician, that JHK was a runner, or in some way abused his hip to the point where a replacement was needed. The human body was meant for 3 mph walking with some short sprinting not marathons, hurdles or ski moguls.

        Most everyone I know who needs a hip or knee replacement either broke the darn bones from an acccident or continued with hard athletic use after youth (30 years.)

        Regarding a triple by-pass: sometimes the problem is genetic but so often it is diet, exercise and stress. Sitting at a computer is the worst activity for girth – see the video gamer generation looking like a Shar Pei or Honey Boo Boo’s mom before the gastric bypass – not to mention ones eyes.

        • DA March 31, 2017 at 10:54 am #

          Obesity will punch your joints’ ticket as well. I ran until about the age of 35, at which point I wisely quit. Led to some weight gain of course, but still a wise decision. Everything from my hips down hurt when I ran. REALLY stupid activity unless you’re built like an African marathoner.

          • RocketDoc March 31, 2017 at 3:11 pm #

            Running is fast exercise when time is at a premium. Biking is better until some texting fool in a SUV behemoth waxes you. I started running at 48. At 65 it hurts too much–I stopped. I tell my children who have all done 1/2 and full marathons–Remember Aristotle: Moderation in all things…

          • DA March 31, 2017 at 3:29 pm #

            Most people would do better with brisk walking, especially if they have some moderate hills nearby to increase the intensity. But the hills need to be taken in moderation as well, as walking briskly back down the hill pounds the joints nearly as bad as running on level ground.

          • outsider April 1, 2017 at 11:32 am #

            I used to have a neighbor who was addicted to daily running. He’d be out there running in zero degree temps with a face mask, gloves, and long johns. He’d run in 95 degree weather shirtless, carrying a bottle of water. I talked to him once about it, and he told me how he kept a journal of how many miles he ran each day/week/month/year. He also kept track of every time he fell and his various injuries. He reminded me of Forrest Gump. One day I read in the paper that he died of a heart attack at age 58 – while running! Since I’m now seven years older than that, I’m glad to be a semi-couch potato.

          • DA April 1, 2017 at 6:32 pm #

            I used to have a neighbor who was addicted to daily running. He’d be out there running in zero degree temps with a face mask, gloves, and long johns.

            I used to be that guy. Fortunately, I recovered. Sad to say, I once viewed that kind of life as necessary to live a “normal” life. Holy Christ! Was that EVER a tough row to hoe! Life need not be NEARLY that hard!

          • GreenAlba April 3, 2017 at 7:27 am #

            ‘walking briskly back down the hill pounds the joints nearly as bad as running on level ground.’

            A Leki pole with a built-in spring mechanism will take a huge amount of the weight off your joints when walking downhill.

        • sprawlcapital March 31, 2017 at 11:02 am #

          If you take just one vitamin supplement, I recommend vitamin K2, for it’s benefits to circulation. Experts whom I trust state that K2 removes calcium from the arteries, where it causes hardening of the arteries, thickening of the arterial walls, and therefore blood clots. It then causes the calcium to be deposited in the bones, strengthening them, and reducing the risk of fractures.

          It seems to be working for me. A few years ago I was having shortness of breath. Now I can fill my lungs completely. It’s a great feeling. Vitamin K2 may take several months to provide benefits. Be patient.

          there is no known overdose level for K2. Carlson sells a capsule containing 5 mg of the vitamin (5000 mcg). This is the dosage I take; it is many times larger than the dose in most other brands.

          Much cheaper than a coronary bypass, and no pain.

          • DA March 31, 2017 at 3:46 pm #

            Looks like LifeExtension sells a 2200 mcg complex of K1 and K2 (M4 & M7) on Amazon. I think I’ll give those try.

        • James Howard Kunstler March 31, 2017 at 12:01 pm #

          Yes, Peq, I was a runner for 25 years. I had a single bypass op, not a triple. — JHK

          • thwack March 31, 2017 at 12:45 pm #

            I only ran because the police were chasing me.

            Just sayin

          • DA March 31, 2017 at 3:48 pm #

            I only ran because the police were chasing me.

            Just laughing.

          • pequiste March 31, 2017 at 6:45 pm #

            Thank you for clarifying your situation Jim.

            I guess the triple bypass comment was just my projection of how the medical industry would claim “He was there, we were there and while we are at it….”

            I am pleased to say you looked well (I was going to say “in the pink” but that has its own loaded, unsettling meanings to some, and a strong micro-aggression potential in our UnBrave New World) from the video of the panel discussion from last week at the Center for Progressive Urban Politics, Lancaster, Pa. along with Chris Martenson, J.M. Greer, D. Orlov, and Frank Morris.

            Live Long and Prosper.

          • thwack March 31, 2017 at 7:07 pm #

            Im still howling from his Ted Talk.

            I bet they never saw that comin?

        • My Point of View March 31, 2017 at 1:16 pm #

          Peq, I know a lot of men who were in the Army and needed both knees replaced later in life. A lot of them were “trained” by running them ten miles a day, on concrete roads, in combat boots, with a 30-pound pack on their backs. If college coaches did this to their jocks they’d be locked up for abuse.

          I used to run a bit, hated it. I found much better exercise in the 1980s doing aerobics, usually in a room filled with beautiful young women in tight fitting spandex. Oooh, those were the days.

      • GreenAlba April 3, 2017 at 7:54 am #

        ‘Please explain how the preventative model of health would have solved Mr. Kuntsler’s two medical issues he has blogged about: a hip that was replaced surgically, and a coronary artery bypass.’

        As they say, the plural of anecdote is not data. Results from changing lifestyles (valid here in the UK as well as in the US) are global, not always individual. People will still get cancer if everyone exercises more (preferably not by running on concrete!) and eats less junk, but fewer people will get it and many fewer will get Type 2 diabetes (which gobbles 10% of the NHS budget here – 10% that could usefully be spent on other things).

        At least in this country it’s easier to live without a car, at least if you live in a town or city. My husband and I could afford a car (he happens to be a doctor) but we don’t even own one between us – we have two ‘City Car Club’ rental cars in our street which we use once in a while for an hourly payment (maybe 3 or 4 times a year), otherwise we use the excellent bus service or walk, including for all our shopping. We hire something bigger for a week or two a year to go on holiday with the dog. My OH still got Type 2 diabetes, mind you, but that’s probably from the beer and the late-night munching – like I said, results are global, not individual. More exercise + less junk food = a healthier population *overall*. And, as a bonus, we don’t have to watch our income fritter away on a monthly basis maintaining and insuring a pile of depreciating steel sitting outside our home.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 31, 2017 at 3:22 pm #

      They also changed the Hippocratic Oath which specifically forbids abortion. If they didn’t like the Oath and didn’t intend to practice by it, why not just abandon it? Why change it but still call it the Hippocratic Oath? Hypocrites and Liars.

      • outsider April 1, 2017 at 11:44 am #

        Janos, Abortion is better than bringing millions of unwanted babies into this cruel world. Also, it helps to reduce the surplus population – although it is a ghoulish way to achieve it. Male circumcision, however,is worse as it is practiced on live male babies with ghastly results for society at large – and it is also a violation of the Hippocratic Oath (first do no harm).

        • Q. Shtik April 1, 2017 at 1:26 pm #

          Male circumcision, however,is worse as it is practiced on live male babies with ghastly results for society at large – outsider


          I’ve read the first 8 Books of the Old Testament (so far) and male circumcision is a big MUST-DO for the Israelites. There is, however, not one word about WHY. Rules are passed from God through Moses to the people. (Later Josue, aka Joshua, takes over after Moses dies at age 120.) Apparently it never occurs to Moses or Joshua to ask WHY?. I guess that would be impolite.

          In fact there are no explanations for ANY of the endless and innumerable rules, laws and restrictions which might make an ordinary man scratch his head.

          There was this particularly amusing prescription for being absolved of certain sins. You bring two pigeons (turtledoves optional) to the alter for sacrifice. You kill one of them, cut off his head and pour his blood into a small bowl. You set the other bird free. Then you touch a small amount of the blood to the tip of your right ear, your right thumb and your right big toe. (Stay with me here, I’m serious.) There is no explanation for this WHATSOEVER. (This is not to say that ANY religion is MORE comprehensible.) I think if I had been Moses I would have struggled to stifle a chuckle as I mumbled “You’re kidding, right!?”

          Is it any wonder I am an atheist?

          I will be attending a dinner party tonight. We will all sit down for dinner and conversation except for Ira who is orthodox. He will arrive sometime after sunset (the end of the sabbath) and will bring with him his own dinner, dishes and utensils. He will be wearing a ‘yamaka’ (Google optional spellings). Jews currently prefer ‘yarmulke’ so as not to be confused with a Japanese motorcycle. Filler information, irrelevant to my story: Ira is a professor of micro economics at Rutgers. If anyone can explain the pigeon blood gambit it will be Ira. I’ll ask him.

          Beantown, chime in if you know the answer.

  6. wm5135 March 31, 2017 at 8:36 am #

    Our host proposes “The US Senate needs to set up an equivalent of the Pecora Commission to thoroughly expose the cost racketeering”.

    I would prefer the POTUS do what he does best, openly say something outrageous.

    ” I have not been here in Washington long but I am going to say something we all know. Our congress is completely corrupt and we need to replace every last member. The mid terms will be upon us before we know it and we can begin the process. Let us have a huge mid term voter turnout and start Making America Great Again.”

    • DA March 31, 2017 at 10:50 am #

      Has he actually said that yet? It damn sure needs to be said.

    • onehunglo April 1, 2017 at 8:28 am #

      you have advantage in that you may speak truth to power with little risk to personal health.

      try speak those words to Party on mainland China.

      then you health suffer greatly.

      and please stop all whining surround onehunglo.

      you not like words??

      then exercise finger and scroll past.

      let not you be troubled.

      may God be with you.


      • Q. Shtik April 1, 2017 at 11:21 am #

        may God be with you.




        Would it severely crimp your style if you were to skip typing “may God be with you” and “-onehunglo” at the end of each of your comments?

        We are already advised of the poster’s ID which appears at the heading. Also, some of us are atheists — your girlfriend, Janet, for example — and don’t appreciate the unsubtle preaching that arrives uninvited at our door like two well-dressed and polite Seventh Day Adventists.

        Doing these two things will lessen the annoyance factor tenfold.

  7. FincaInTheMountains March 31, 2017 at 8:39 am #

    So loudly the Russian theme did not sound in the US since the time of the Caribbean crisis.

    However, if in November 1962, after a sharp increase in anti-Soviet hysteria, there was a very real basis in the form of the deployment of Soviet nuclear missiles in Cuba (which appeared there in response to the deployment in Turkey of US medium-range missiles covering almost the entire European part of the USSR, including Moscow), today’s sharp rise in the US Russophobic sentiment has no other basis than own American problems and fears.

    Such a rejection of the new government by the old was not observed in the US since the transfer of powers from the administration of Herbert Hoover to Franklin Roosevelt administration officials.

    But such that the employees of the State Department, being fired or quit as a protest, from the hatred of the new president, destroyed the documents and sabotaged his decisions, was not observed, as I believe, since the confrontation between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams in 1800.

    Like John Adams more than two hundred years ago, previous administration tried to appoint its own people to various positions in the State Department, Congress and judicial bodies before leaving, and now the problem of cleansing the state apparatus becomes a serious headache for Trump and his team. Although the lack of staff and almost paralyzed State Department is not the problem of a new head of state, but of a corrupt American bureaucracy: the employees of the federal agencies are clearly not ready for the changes that promise Trump’s election.

    Fear has settled in American society. It would be strange to have split elites and a cohesive society. The deep contradictions in American elites are a consequence of the actual beginning of the cold civil war within the society itself.

    • DA March 31, 2017 at 10:48 am #

      Soon to be a hot civil war if current trends continue. We’re on low boil now. Won’t be long until the water’s over the side.

  8. wm5135 March 31, 2017 at 8:39 am #

    To onehunglo:

    Two words for you pahdner – Google Translate.

    • onehunglo March 31, 2017 at 8:52 am #

      thank you for that.

      big pharma in 201x more cunning than big tobacco in 195x.

      onehunglo recall tv ad show roger bannister breaking 4 minute mile then proceed enjoy “chesterfield” cigarette. then tout health benefit of same.

      today, tv ad show big construction worker suffering from “opioid induced constipation” and take magic pill to solve. all the while very same pharma company produce opioid pill that kill more American than sum of tobacco and automobile.

      that ok.

      let not you heart be troubled.

      may God be with you.


    • ozone March 31, 2017 at 8:57 am #

      I’ve got two words for “him” too; a common American expression in very plain language — and the two words ain’t Happy Birthday. 😉
      (I really am sick of these distractions and distorting piffle regarding very serious predicaments; time grows [increasingly] short.)

      • Janos Skorenzy March 31, 2017 at 3:24 pm #

        Amen brother and pass the ammunition.

        • onehunglo March 31, 2017 at 7:36 pm #

          “great spirits have always encountered violent resistance from weak minds.” – Albert Einstein.

          let not you heart be troubled.

          may God be with you.


  9. Htruth March 31, 2017 at 9:08 am #

    End the medical monopoly: https://youtu.be/UPGATpA8lvk

  10. orbit7er March 31, 2017 at 9:33 am #

    Here in the Republican bastion of very rich Morris County we have hundreds showing up every week at Representative Frelinghuysen’s office many of them voters on Obamacare… Thanks to this public pressure Rep Frelinghuysen finally joined the rest of the NJ Republican delegation in opposing Ryan’s proposed Obamacare Repeal…
    But I am so glad Kunstler points out the need for Single-payer Medicare for all which would drastically reduce the US 30% administrative overhead for private profit Health Insurance. But just as importantly Single-payer Medicare for all ultimately would be a fantastic boost entrepreneurship. Right now there are many people like my own friends who are constrained from striking out on their businesses, enterprises or community social projects by the need for very expensive health insurance provided by Corporations or government jobs. Small local businesses face huge costs if they provide health insurance to their employees. One of the biggest issues forcing local governments to cut public transit, public parks, libraries, schools etc is the huge cost of health insurance for their employees – firemen, policemen and teachers. My own community library has had all major programs axed, hours reduced by more than half solely because of one catastrophic illness for a library employee which led to a half million dollar hit on their budget as they are self-insured!!
    Kunstler is right that Single-payer would lead to a short term loss of jobs for the legions of clerks in the healthcare denial industry. Which is why I have thought the way to implement Single-payer Medicare for all is a gradual rollin from both ends of the age spectrum to allow
    these private insurance rackets and their healthcare deniers to slowly go out of business and maybe actually go into PROVIDING healthcare as Nurses, Drs, Therapists etc instead of DENYING healthcare. So first cover 55-64 and all children to 26…
    Then 50-54 and 26-30 etc

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    • DA March 31, 2017 at 10:45 am #

      Won’t happen. Actually providing healthcare, absent perverse financial incentives, is and will increasingly become strictly low wage servitude, at least until large parts of it are automated out of existence altogether. You can bet the FIRE sector people who profit so much from it now will never let that happen. And they’ll continue to pay their politicians handsomely to ensure that it never happens.

      And by the way, we didn’t just coincidentally stumble into our current predicament, this was the plan all along.

    • My Point of View March 31, 2017 at 1:25 pm #

      IIRC the overhead costs for Medicare is only 5%, not the 20-30% that the insurance companies rip right off the top of every health care dollar.

      If we could keep that extra 15-25% of every dollar available to provide actual care it would enable coverage for all those who don’t already have health care.

  11. MrTibbs March 31, 2017 at 9:38 am #

    The hour is getting late.

    Another 50 years?? (the time elapsed since Jimi recorded the tune.)

    …or 50 days??

    Yes, the river knows.

    They call me Mr. Tibbs.


  12. seawolf77 March 31, 2017 at 9:54 am #

    The current healthcare system is the next step in the Rockefeller dynasty. John D looked at petroleum and its effects and decided the next fortune would be made in healthcare. Specifically, but not limited to cancer. They propped up FDR, a polio victim for president. Then they whipped up a frenzy about children getting polio. Then they forced an insane polio vaccine on an unsuspecting public that was corrupted with cancer causing viruses. Monkey pus. I remember standing in line as a young boy awaiting my shot wondering “What if they’re wrong.” Now cancer is at epidemic levels. 1 out of 2 people will get it. Back in the early 1900’s it was like 1 in a 1,000. Nobody talks about the cancer epidemic. Nobody. That is why cannabis is illegal, because hemp oil cures cancer. The War on Cancer was started by the same tool that started the War on Drugs. Tricky Dick Nixon. Like the Bush’s, Rockefeller stooges. The Rockefeller brothers David and Nelson built the WTC, for Pete’s sake.

    • onehunglo March 31, 2017 at 7:42 pm #

      seawolf, you very wise one indeed!

      globalist rockefeller admired red China central command and control to dying day.

      his bilderberg group members try to convince Party to serve as global enforcer of their agenda.

      still topic being debated within Party.

      onehunglo repent every minute every day for previous work on vaccine adjuvant design to inflict suffering as clandestine neuro-toxin.

      now adjuvant released to global pharma.

      be very skeptical when local government stop “encourage” vaccine and start “mandate”.

      let not you heart be troubled.

      may God be with you.


    • GreenAlba April 3, 2017 at 8:04 am #

      ‘They propped up FDR, a polio victim for president. Then they whipped up a frenzy about children getting polio. Then they forced an insane polio vaccine on an unsuspecting public that was corrupted with cancer causing viruses.’

      Please stop trying to spread nonsense. Children got polio – it was devastating. Vaccination is one of the best things medicine has brought to humanity – far more important than many high-tech interventions that don’t make that much difference to overall life quality.

      ‘That is why cannabis is illegal, because hemp oil cures cancer.’

      Stop it. Seriously, just stop it.

  13. wm5135 March 31, 2017 at 9:58 am #

    When exactly did this site become Jim’s Rand Cafe? We have about 5000 years of philosophy to choose from and Atlas Shrugged is the touchstone? The Fountainhead was a better read.

    • James Howard Kunstler March 31, 2017 at 12:09 pm #

      WM5135 — I’m not pimping for Ayn Rand. What are you referring to?
      — JHK

      • DA March 31, 2017 at 12:34 pm #

        I think he’s talking about Mr Galt, aka Mr Tibbs.

  14. Elrond Hubbard March 31, 2017 at 10:02 am #

    My contribution, as someone who actually lives with a single-payer system: I can’t believe it’s taken you guys this long.

    Yes, I have had some lengthy waits in waiting rooms. Sometimes people have to wait months for important procedures. I even pay medical bills sometimes — not everything is covered (notably my eye doctor; certainly not my dentist). Resources are finite, while demand for health care is potentially infinite; therefore health care will always be rationed. The question is, rationed how? By what mechanism, and with what priorities? By relying on market mechanisms for everything, the U.S. has perpetuated perverse incentives and allowed the extent of fraud, waste and abuse in its system to grow to truly morbid proportions. The corrupt, money-driven system in Washington D.C. is certainly part of the problem as well: the health-care lobby has long been the largest in the nation’s capital, and their investments in compliant legislators are more than handsomely rewarded.

    The most significant medical procedure I’ve ever had was an outpatient septoplasty and SMD that greatly improved my breathing both awake and asleep, and hopefully cut my likelihood of heart trouble down the line by quite a bit. I never saw a bill. And no, that’s not “free health care” or a handout, and don’t let people tell you otherwise. I pay for my health care, just through a different mechanism.

    Medicare for all: Have at it, people. I wish you all the success in the world.

    • orbit7er March 31, 2017 at 10:11 am #

      We have waits for medical care here – most especially if your Healthcare Denial Office has to approve a procedure your Drs have already decided is required…
      Of course millions do NOT get healthcare or still go bankrupt getting it and then a number of those wind up in the most expensive Emergency Room care with hospitals forced to up prices for everyone else to cover charity care cases anyway…

      • DA March 31, 2017 at 12:06 pm #

        Or forced “medical care”, aka revenue extraction, that isn’t actually called for. Sleep apnea is a popular current racket. The “sleep study” will run you ~$500 or so, and if you can’t sleep with all crap hooked up to you like many can’t, it’ll need to be repeated until you can. Lo and behold, nine times out of ten you’ll be found to have significant breathing disruptions, and then you’re locked into the system. Machine, supplies, and a lifetime of sleeping strapped to a mask ahead of you. Oh boy!

        Oh, and the insurance will quit reimbursing for related conditions if they find out you’re not using the damn thing. What’s not to love? Meanwhile, assuming the primary condition was not caused by your sleeping problem which may or may not actually exist, that will continue to go untreated in the interim. Unless it kills you of course, then all your problems are finally solved. [I seem to recall a Bible passage about “the living envying the dead”] Let your damn relatives worry about the burial or cremation expenses!

        • outsider April 1, 2017 at 12:05 pm #

          DA – The biggest racket of all is spending ourselves into oblivion over keeping very sick old people alive for just another day of misery. It is a scam of immense proportions, and old people so afflicted must draw down their entire life savings to qualify for Medicaid (Medicare doesn’t pay for LTC). Ultimately, people have a right to die with dignity, and being comatose, hooked up to machines, isn’t it. The former governor of Colorado, Richard Lamm, said that old folks, past a certain point, have a “duty to die.”

          • DA April 1, 2017 at 5:00 pm #

            Couldn’t agree more my friend! Currently having this same discussion with my 81 year old mom, who having lived morbidly obese and poor all here life, now finds herself in the decidedly unfortunate position of being old, retired, of very little means, and of dire need of total hips (2) and knees (2) replacements to even BEGIN to live a “normal” life again, whatever in the hell that even means in the first place. In truth, someone of her stature, even a generation ago, should have been eliminated from the human gene pool, post haste. But such is the insatiable appetite of the MICC and the American mindset these days.

            Yes, it’s an extremely politically sensitive subject to broach, but broach it we must if we are ever to deal with it. NO, humans, just like every other species we share this planet with, DO NOT have the right to live unnaturally long lives at the expense of the rest of the planet, and YES, that must be the mantra of any rational species going forward.

    • DuckandCover March 31, 2017 at 2:08 pm #

      Too much bragging, Elrond. As a member of the empire you are agreeable to ideas coming from the Commonwealth. The US is much too suspicious of any sensible idea if it comes from the Crown or Europe. We have to fight each other for an extra 50 years before our eyes are opened. MFA is the only solution to this mess. The Devil is in the details.

      • Elrond Hubbard March 31, 2017 at 3:00 pm #

        Certainly not trying to brag, just convey an idea of the realities. MFA would be different from the UK’s National Health Service, since that’s a direct arm of the government (definitely wouldn’t go over well in the U.S.). Single payer doesn’t make doctors into government employees; it just eliminates parasites such as health insurers. Next step would be bringing the drug companies and medical device manufacturers to heel — all those pharmacy reps would have to find something else to do with their attractive selves.

        • GreenAlba April 3, 2017 at 8:28 am #

          ‘Certainly not trying to brag, just convey an idea of the realities. MFA would be different from the UK’s National Health Service, since that’s a direct arm of the government (definitely wouldn’t go over well in the U.S.).’

          GP surgeries in the UK (unless in private practice outside the NHS) are private businesses, with both partners and salaried doctors/nurses) which are paid for services by the NHS. They are not government employees. As it happens, many are hitting the wall at the moment and closing down or being taken over by local health boards, but that is a very recent phenomenon -they have always been private businesses since the inception of the NHS in 1948.

          I find our US cousins to be less than logical in terms of their view of government. In 2015 they were happy for ‘big government’ to spend 54% of the federal discretionary budget on the military – I may be missing something but I find that every bit as ‘socialist’ as having healthcare overseen or organised by government, especially as individuals aren’t invited to choose who is to be invaded or protected.

          US citizens don’t ask to have individual bills for for their use of roads and bridges – nor, to my knowledge, do they ask for individual bills to pay for their own contribution to the damage done by climate change, even though a person with no car and no swimming pool may suffer the effects of the wealthy SUV owner’s CO2 footprint, without the latter paying any compensation. I don’t understand why they single out healthcare as this one thing that can’t be a public good, because ‘SOCIALISM’.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 31, 2017 at 3:27 pm #

      Dental not covered – not even in Canada? Truly Dentists are a Brotherhood of Knaves.

      • Elrond Hubbard April 1, 2017 at 2:28 pm #

        Not drugs, either. My sister was very fortunate to get coverage through her employer for her rheumatoid arthritis. Single payer ain’t magic, just public policy. Get yours today!

  15. Elrond Hubbard March 31, 2017 at 10:08 am #

    Drone Video Shows The Horrifying Scale Of The Volkswagen Buyback


    No one really knows the environmental ramifications of scrapping hundreds of thousands of cheating diesel Volkswagens. That’s scary in and of itself. But the sheer scale of what’s going on is hard to imagine, and while you’ve probably seen still shots of the various places where those hordes of VWs are parked, this drone video drives the point home better than any photo can.

    The video comes to us from Michigan’s abandoned Pontiac Silverdome, once the home of the Detroit Lions and now the home of hundreds—thousands?—of parked Volkswagens. This shooter flew a drone overhead to capture it all.

    Each of those was someone’s car once. Goddamn.

    NB: I personally don’t find the video that impressive, since I’m used to sights like this — there are several big storage yards around Windsor where newly-manufactured vehicles wait to be shipped out. Still, imagine that this represents just a sliver of all the vehicles made, worn out and scrapped on this planet in a given year.

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  16. shotho March 31, 2017 at 10:10 am #

    Two parties are the walking dead and the dead reform nothing.

  17. seawolf77 March 31, 2017 at 10:22 am #

    Donald Trump is a coitus based circus performer.

  18. DA March 31, 2017 at 10:29 am #

    There are only two plausible arcs to this story. One is that the nation might face the facts and resort to the Single Payer system found in virtually every other nation that affects to be civilized. There is no other way to eliminate the deliberate racketeering. The other outcome would be the inevitable collapse of the system and its eventual re-set to a much less complex, cash-on-the-barrelhead, local clinic-based model with far less heroic high-tech interventions available for the broad public, but much more affordable basic care.

    With the racketeers now firmly in charge, the only possible outcome is number two, cash on the barrel head local clinic based system, which might actually work pretty well once the kinks get worked out and provided that doesn’t just get captured as well by other aspiring racketeers. The ultimate (and desired) outcome is that first world healthcare will become a staple for the very rich and non-existent for the rest of us, just as it is across the third world now. Matter of fact, that pretty much applies to everything else as well. If you want to know where the US will be 10-20-50 years down the road, just look at where any destitute third world country that the west has already plundered is now. THAT’S our future!

    • badberries March 31, 2017 at 12:09 pm #

      Google “Reformedicine” for your area. See my post below.

      • DA March 31, 2017 at 12:31 pm #

        I’m only seeing a WI location.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 31, 2017 at 3:31 pm #

      Thus the importance of Christianity: Service without worldly renumeration. Sure there should be a place of Medical Capitalists in research. But in actual practice? No, or at least only for the Super Wealthy.

      The nations we didn’t plunder are even poorer btw. You think that without us, the Black Africans would have colonies on the moon by now, right?

      • onehunglo April 1, 2017 at 8:34 am #

        what you words have to do with topic of health???

        “Fools have no interest in understanding; they only want to air their own opinions.” -Proverbs 18:2-3

        yet many fool here want onehunglo censored, when janos continue eschew hatred, prejudice, and bigotry, all which not good for anyone health.


        • DA April 1, 2017 at 6:22 pm #

          Agreed. WITW do Black Africans – or White Europeans for that matter – having colonies on the moon have to do with anything? Honestly Janos, I think you’re clinically schizo! You need to get checked out! SERIOUSLY!

  19. FincaInTheMountains March 31, 2017 at 10:42 am #

    General Flynn discussed with Russian Ambassador ways to evacuate 35 Russian diplomats with their families

    On New Year’s Eve, Russian diplomats were physically unable to leave the US in 72 hours, and undoubtedly would have been arrested after the expiration of this period by the same people who in 2001 had already once arrested the Secretary of State of Russia and Belarus, who came to attend the inauguration of President Bush Jr. by his invitation.

    Clintonoids keep attacking the American patriot and the deserved military intelligence officer for assisting in the organization of a special flight that took Russian diplomats and their families from the United States.

    They are enraged that he did not allow events to develop according to a catastrophic scenario, thus preventing a nuclear war with Russia, which the outgoing administration tried to arrange 20 days before the end of its term of office.

  20. FincaInTheMountains March 31, 2017 at 10:57 am #

    I have matched numerous Flynn interviews and speeches over the last year. I would not describe the man as noble, sorry. He seems like a dick. Paulus

    General Flynn and the enemies of the American people

    General Flynn is one of the most famous and respected US military intelligence officers. In particular, he is known in the US Army for the position he took in relation to Islamist terror, with which the American army really had to fight in Afghanistan, Libya and Iraq.

    And this is not about overthrowing the governments of these countries during the so-called color revolutions, but about a real war with Islamists, which inevitably began in these countries after the victory of the “Benghazi democrats”, “Moderate opposition” to Asad or “oppressed Kurds” of Iraq.

    This position more or less corresponds to the world view of the greater part of the junior and middle command staff of the US Army, and possibly the higher one too (except, of course, the appointees of Hillary Clinton). And this view is largely determined by hatred of politicians and intelligence services who send soldiers to die in Muslim countries, and themselves behind their back make deals with the enemy.

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  21. K-Dog March 31, 2017 at 11:04 am #

    The cap on a new exacto knife was melted on so I slashed my little finger pulling it off. Fortunately a kind coworker helped me band-aid it up, a perfect job. At home late that night I realized it was so bad I was bound to open it doing normal activities so I went to an emergency room (Actually what happened was I showed my paw to Mrs. Dog and she demanded I go).

    This happened four months ago; three stitches and now it is so well healed I don’t know exactly where the cut was. The surgeon only gave me stitches so many hours after the cut because it was clean and hence less chance of infection. Stitches are supposed to be done right away. I did not know that and figured it would only need one stitch on the way to the hospital on the midnight drive the day it happened.

    My insurance company said I did at work so they would only pay $1.58 and I was responsible for the other $4000.00+. That got me filling out L & I paperwork but quick and the state has since picked up the tab.

    End of true story.

    • DA March 31, 2017 at 11:18 am #

      Only $1333 per stitch – a bargain! I trust that the new-fangled surgical tape they use now and/or even Super Glue(!) wouldn’t work?

      What’s a dog messing around with exacto knifes anyway? Your paws ain’t cut out for that kind of stuff. Let’s stick to medically approved chew toys from here on out. Small rubber balls are a choking hazard and sticks are hell on the teeth and gums.

    • OHealihy March 31, 2017 at 2:15 pm #

      In the mid- seventies, while driving without health insurance, I came upon a rusty muffler with a piece of tailpipe attached to it. Lying in the middle of one side of a two-lane rail crossing, thus obstructing safe passage of traffic, I stopped and picked it up, in a fit of civic-mindedness, to toss it out of the way. Well, it broke apart , in my hands, and tore the end off a finger on my left hand, just under the nail. I covered it up with an oily rag, all that I had available, and went to the nearest emergency room.
      Arriving at the ER, I was informed of life-and-death cases being treated, and told that I would probably have better luck, and more timely treatment, at a local surgeons office. I was directed to a cluster of practices not far away.
      The third office contacted had a surgeon who happened to be in that afternoon. I was escorted to an exam room, given injections of lidocaine, had the wound cleaned and sutured, and sent on my way.
      The Charge? $25.00.
      A true story from the days of “cash-on-the barrelhead” medicine.

      • onehunglo March 31, 2017 at 7:44 pm #

        then you must remember the one know as “Helen Reddy” and ‘i am woman, hear me roar”???


  22. FincaInTheMountains March 31, 2017 at 11:11 am #

    Trump backs Flynn

    President Trump said Friday that his former national security adviser is right to seek immunity in exchange for answering questions on Russia, tweeting that Mike Flynn is caught up in a “witch hunt” of “historic proportion.”


    Good to see that not everybody in US are sellouts.

  23. Buck Stud March 31, 2017 at 12:02 pm #

    Great post JHK on an important topic.

    But what’s up with all these posters making posts completely unrelated to the topic?

    Back in the days when ‘America was great’,or at least more polite and with an attention span greater than than a miller moth, this would be considered extremely rude and inconsiderate behavior.

    Time to fire up the scroll over helicopter.

    • beantownbill. March 31, 2017 at 12:24 pm #

      It’s the trolls. As I’ve said before, this site has been Infested by those wishing to deflect discussion away from the touchy subjects upon which JHK disposes. All we can do is scroll over the postings of those trolls without encouraging them by replying. Have you noticed how the number of comments has greatly increased? At first I thought it was because of the twice weekly commentary of JHK, but now I wonder. If you count the number of on-subject and real posts, those numbers would be much lower.

      • elysianfield March 31, 2017 at 1:33 pm #

        C’mon, give us a break. Our host provides this site to attract those of a similar bent and otherwise. The commentaries he provides are of interest, and entertaining. The site also provides for a community of disparate interests…and a social gathering point…. I see little need in voicing my (obvious and predictable) agreement with our host…we are usually in lock-step…completely.

        The site provides a social function, and a dialog amongst usually educated and intelligent acquaintances on any variety of topics…topics that should interest anyone of curious mind. CFN’s value is found equally in the honest interaction of the various commenters…First person accounts are of particular interest, at least, to me. Sorry.

        • capt spaulding March 31, 2017 at 1:54 pm #

          Elysian and bean. You both are so right with regards to the trolls and the bullshit they post. I know that there are many people who have a genuine interest in the goings on in this country, the trolls, however, only seek to feed their egos by provoking responses to their puerile posts. There is a lot of knowledge available on this web site, if you can just wade through the dog shit.

          • thwack March 31, 2017 at 7:18 pm #

            they kill babies don’t they?

      • Janos Skorenzy March 31, 2017 at 3:37 pm #

        Remember what Bilbo said: a road is a very dangerous thing. It can take you anywhere since one road leads to another. Just so with the Roads of Thought. C’mon Bill, you know this. This is one reason men drink: to help them better to travel these roads. And you are no mean traveler I’ll warrant – with or without the lubrication for the gears of the mind.

        • beantownbill. March 31, 2017 at 5:55 pm #

          I’m the kind of guy who likes to follow the road to its very end and reflect upon the journey. I like traveling from point A to B to C, etc. and I don’t mind forks and turns. What I don’t like and what I’m talking about, is going from point A directly to point M.

  24. badberries March 31, 2017 at 12:06 pm #

    Recently I had to have my blood pressure scrip refilled so I called my MD and was told that I would have to come in and have some tests. I asked if I could still have the tests done by the Hospital across the street (for a fraction of what they charged in the clinic) they told me that both they and the Hospital had recently joined a racket named Prevxx and that the prices were now the same. I asked if their prices had gone up and she didn’t know but she’d call me back with the total costs (in the past it had run about $250 -four tests and some hand-holding.) When she called back, the price now was $861 and a 5% for cash discount instead of 25% as in the past. She told me that all pricing was now done by Prevxx and they had no discretion any more.

    So, I bitched about it to the wife and she told me about this new clinic in town called Reformedicine -direct pay clinic. I called ’em up and got in that day…total cost $234.

    I recommend that everybody should google “Reformedicine” (spelled exactly like that) for their area and see if there is a clinic nearby for routine care. Apparently some MD’s got tired of the insurance rackets’ horseshit and set up their own clinics which are now spreading around the country. They are a “cash only” provider and accept no insurance of any kind.

    • DA March 31, 2017 at 12:21 pm #

      Here in “The Land of Enchantment,” Tricore Reference Labs are “da bomb!” Prices are generally 1/5th of what the hospital lab charges, with shorter wait and quicker turn around times to boot! They do take insurance, but at their prices I don’t really care either way. Just hope they don’t get bought out too. Cash and carry is definitely the future for those who can afford it, although I suspect the FIRE sector already has them targeted.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 31, 2017 at 3:38 pm #

      Hannity says there are Christian Cooperatives now that have even cheaper prices.

  25. Being Frank March 31, 2017 at 12:10 pm #

    “It is getting to the point where we have to ask ourselves if we are even capable of being a serious people any more.”

    You have all had 70 years of very, very easy living. Whether you realise it or not you have all been at a huge fossil fuelled party, no one is serious at a party! The time to get serious is however approaching.

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  26. beantownbill. March 31, 2017 at 12:10 pm #

    Thanks for your commentary, Jim. – it shows your knowledge of the issue and is right on target. However, you tout a single payer system, and I have my doubts about that. Who would run such a program? I assume it would be a new or expanded bureaucracy of the federal government; the same government you and other commenters here rail against for its dishonesty, ineffectiveness and greed. Why would things be any different in a single payer system?

    You hit the nail on the head as to a possible solution, though: Investigate the medical/pharma industries and arrest and jail everyone found to have violated anti-trust and RICO laws, some of which have been on the books for decades. Also end the re-importation rules that prevent purchasing the same pharmaceuticals from sources in other countries.

    These and other reforms wouldn’t require the government to administer a whole new health care system. Of course, will real reform happen? What do you think?

  27. Buck Stud March 31, 2017 at 12:13 pm #

    Maybe a cash based medical system would be cheaper or maybe not; after all, as JHK asserted in his post, patients are not customers, but possibly “hostages” depending in the severity of medical condition.

    Single payer is the only logical, humane way to dispense medical care .
    Oh and those cash based urgent care clinics, beware and hold onto your wallet:

    “A 15-minute office visit and strep test for a sore throat cost $602.05. That was for an urgent care clinic in his health plan’s network.”


    • DA March 31, 2017 at 12:27 pm #

      That was for an urgent care clinic in his health plan’s network.

      That statement implies that the clinic was not “cash and carry” at all. Local cash based clinics are very affordable, for now at least. But then again, New Mexico is very poor state. Not a lot of cash to be squeezed out here. No word on pharma. I imagine that’s where you’d be taken for the ride.

  28. volodya March 31, 2017 at 12:15 pm #

    It’s like Krauthammer sez in his column, universal health care is now widely accepted as a right. That points to eventual single-payer. But it just points there, it doesn’t get you there. The combination of Republican ideological intransigence and the fact that BOTH parties are compromised by Big Money stands in the way. Noble sentiments and up-lifting speeches are one thing, but money is money.

    With the federal government proving itself on a daily basis incapable of governing, single-payer ain’t happening and, given Washington’s bureaucratic incompetence, you probably wouldn’t want it anyway. At least, not as run by the Feds. Maybe state-run single-payer has a chance. But then, as it stands now, a large majority of state governorships and state legislatures are in Republican hands.

    I read somewhere that the health insurance biz employs 2 million people. If that number is anywhere close to accurate and if Kunstler is right and the majority of those people get paid middle-class wages in an Uber-ized minimum wage country, jeopardizing those livelihoods becomes a political problem. Because it’s not just about the Billionaire Donor Club, it’s also about VOTES as we saw with the last election. Hillary had the Oligarchs behind her and she bloody lost.

    So, in the politician’s calculation, how many votes do you gain, how many do you lose by enacting reforms? Can you con enough people into voting against their own interests? Is a hybrid system possible where you don’t damage too many jobs in private health insurance companies?

    Obamacare’s decrepitude and the scarcity of politically feasible alternatives makes me doubt there’s a way forward and so somebody’s interests get sacrificed. Take a guess as to whose they would be.

    In the end it could all end up an academic argument as reality forces the country to go places it would rather not be. It’s apparent that America can’t support medical costs as they are now so, as Kunstler sez, in wide areas of the country where people no longer have the income for stratospheric premiums, it’s going to be cash on the barrel-head.

    The mother-in-law needs an operation? Maybe she does, but it has to wait until you scratch up the dough. And the docs doing the surgery have to bear in mind what their patients can afford. Not every M.D. can go make a living in Manhattan’s concrete canyons where cost is no object. You can’t charge a half million to people whose household income is 35Gs a year.

    You can be repulsed by the evil of legions of office workers whose raison d’etre is denial of medical service, but each administrative role as one spider in this web of despair is justified by the laws and ideologies of the time.

    • DA April 1, 2017 at 4:39 pm #

      You’re very wise to the ways of the world volodya. I find myself agreeing with you every time you post. THANK YOU!

  29. Walter B March 31, 2017 at 12:15 pm #

    Great work pounding on the “health care” racket Jim, it needs to be done in every venue possible and on a constant basis at that. There is a great interview with Karl Denninger below for anyone interested describing the issue as well as you have laid it out:


    There is only one problem with what you propose as an avenue to address change or a solution to the problem and that is having the Senate look into it. The Senate? Seriously? That collection of sellout scumbag billionaires who made damn sure they gave themselves no cost, top of the line health care for life once they get elected? Nice try Jim, but these garbage bags are not put in office to serve anyone but themselves and their miserable spawn. I never really liked Ronald Regan, but I have to admit he said it well when he acknowledged the fact that the government IS the problem. It is a sad, pathetic shame that even though he came out and said it NOTHING has been done to change it and in fact the problem has only gotten bigger since the truth came out.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 31, 2017 at 3:59 pm #

      Plutocracy is the Problem. That is to say, Government controlled by for profit Corporations. Libertarianism is a road to nowhere since the laws of the market are just the laws of the jungle.

      Every Civilization worthy of the name has the Vineyard and the Marketplace. In great Civilizations, the Marketplace is tempered by the Vineyard. In lesser or decaying Civilizations, the Vineyard (ethical and spiritual concerns) is tempered by the Marketplace (laws of the jungle). In dying or low Civilizations, there is only the Marketplace, which, since dysfunctional, gives way to pure Political Tyranny.

      • beantownbill. March 31, 2017 at 6:07 pm #

        Sigh. I don’t understand how you can display such wisdom on one hand and be such a prick on the other.

        • Janos Skorenzy March 31, 2017 at 8:06 pm #

          Easy: I’m your mirror image. I want what you folks already have: Tribe.

          The corollary (now don’t have a coronary)? If you don’t like what you see, it’s because you don’t like yourself. But don’t make me your Scape or Judas Goat and project your sins on to me. Own them. Indeed Buddha says that we do. They will follow us like a shadow. As will our virtues.

    • wholy1 March 31, 2017 at 7:51 pm #

      Hear ye – about both Denninger and the legisTRAITORS!

  30. Buck Stud March 31, 2017 at 12:27 pm #

    Many of the same politicians extolling the virtues of the global economy–primarily GOP politicians–are the same one’s who deny Americans the benefits of global purchases: Cheaper prescription drugs from Canada.

    Funny how that works.

    And yes, there are a very limited number of Democratic politicians who also voted with the GOP; and a very limited number of GOP politicians who support the idea of Americans purchasing cheaper foreign drugs.

    Of course, once again, the Big Pharma lobbyists are twisting arms and passing out cash to protect “their interests”.

    Presumably, Cory Booker has some presidential aspirations but after his vote not in favor of cheaper, imported drugs he may have cooked his goose on that front.

    Because if there’s one thing the left-wing of the Democratic Party has it’s a very long memory. No, Cory Booker is not going anywhere in the Democratic Party now imbued with the ethos of Sanders:


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  31. My Point of View March 31, 2017 at 1:00 pm #

    Love today’s article. The only racket as big or worse than health care is religion — the all time leader in the bullshit for billions business.

    There’s a hybrid racket where religion operates major hospitals, at least allegedly. I say allegedly because I wonder who REALLY runs and operates some 600+ “Catholic” hospitals, not to mention numerous hospitals claiming to be of various other religions.

    One thing driving Medicare to insolvency is that fully one third of all Medicare spending occurs in the last 3 weeks of a person’s life. The Catholic hospitals are great at hiding behind phony arguments about the sanctity of life as they keep dying people alive for weeks via extraordinary means, to the tune of thousands of dollars per day.

    Imagine being terminal with cancer, your organs rotting within you, and week after week this sadist bunch keeps you alive, pumped up on morphine or worse, billing Medicare obscene amounts to keep you “alive.” What a crock. It’s not about life, it’s the sanctity of money.

    Several states now have Death with Dignity laws where patients in a terminal state may take a pill and check out. The patient, and only the patient, has this decision authority for themselves. As usual the Catholic church, and others, go both barrels with the lies about death panels and granny being forced to take the pill, etc.

    Colorado recently passed such legislation, but not without the Diocese of Denver putting $1M into a campaign to stop it. The referendum in CO passed with 70% in favor. We’re getting there, but like gay rights, it’ll be a state by state effort until Congress finally approves Death with Dignity for anyone on Medicare or Medicaid. It’s coming, the people overwhelmingly want it.

    Medicare for everyone is the only way out of the health care mess, and that includes negotiating drug prices and hiring thousands of auditors to catch the fraudsters and phony pharmacies billing billions in bogus claims every year.

    Get rid of the racket known as health care insurance and stop letting them syphon off 25% of every dollar that passes through their sticky smarmy hands.

    Whatever it takes, we need to fix health care and get on with raising taxes to pay for the damned infrastructure we need to fix or build.

    • Walter B March 31, 2017 at 1:26 pm #

      Keep ’em “alive” until the money is gone, what a business model. Scare the crap out of ’em so you can make healthy people pay for the treatment of others who don’t give a shit how much you rob the other guy. Buy enough sleazy politician sellouts so you can do anything and everything you want to the rest of us including mandating that we pay whatever it is you charge. Yup it is a racket, not as system. You say we need to do whatever it takes to fix health care, but there has never in the course of human history been any way whatsoever to stop thieves from thieving. It is what they do. Nothing will be fixed, nothing will get better, it will only get worse. If we are lucky it will fall on it’s face and die. If we are not lucky, it will drag on forever get worse and worse, year by year. Eventually the scumbag politicians will have to take ALL of our incomes and seize ALL of our assets just to keep themselves and their masters living the good life. I wish I had better news, but I have seen it before and it always ends badly, sorry. The worst part is that the Common American Idiot doesn’t even give a shit. Damn THAT is sad.

      • onehunglo March 31, 2017 at 7:27 pm #

        walter, you demonstrate wisdom of george carlin!

        many American, like many Chinese, fooled into think that politician really care about citizen health, safety, and well being.

        politician spend entire career convincing citizen they care, then enjoy first class lifestyle courtesy of citizen blood, sweat, and tear.

        however, be not discourage.

        many among us strive for high ideal.

        strive to be cheerful and happy.

        with all its sham. drudgery, and broken dream, it still beautiful world.

        let not you heart be troubled.

        may God be with you.


        • Walter B March 31, 2017 at 8:51 pm #

          Yes my friend, this is only a test, isn’t it? Those who are fortunate and who understand are able to fare well and look death in the eye at the end with no fear. The Happy Hunting Grounds await, don’t they my friend and Eternal Rest sounds like a fine reward for a life well lived. Peace brother.

      • themisanthrope April 9, 2017 at 8:04 am #

        Wow. My real name literally is also Walter B——, and those words could have come out of me. I did recently have another round of cancer surgery and am still taking oxycodone, so for all I know, they did!


        Other Walter B

    • Janos Skorenzy March 31, 2017 at 4:02 pm #

      Btw, Catholic Dogma is clear: extraordinary attempts to keep dying people alive are not required. I don’t doubt what you are saying. I’m just pointing out that these hospitals aren’t living up to the Fatih.

    • beantownbill. March 31, 2017 at 6:29 pm #

      I agree with the idea of Death with Dignity laws; however, a subset of terminally ill patients will try the hang on as long as possible until they are too far gone to make any decisions about ending their life – and that’s where the wicket gets sticky. Who will then decide for the decider? Who will play God? This is an issue that has arisen since the advent of advanced medical technology.

      On your other point, if we were to substantially reduce the military budget and institute an attack only if attacked philosophy, then we would have enough money to repair our infrastructure in a few years (Rome wasn’t built in a day, and neither can infrastructure repair) without having to raise taxes.

      • elysianfield March 31, 2017 at 7:43 pm #

        “Who will then decide for the decider?”

        It is usually the unworthy heirs and assigns….

      • GreenAlba April 3, 2017 at 7:22 pm #

        ‘I agree with the idea of Death with Dignity laws; however, a subset of terminally ill patients will try the hang on as long as possible until they are too far gone to make any decisions about ending their life…’

        I live in the UK and have a Living Will, as does my husband – I presume you have something similar in the US. It can’t enable anyone to proactively cause my death but it states that I am not to be resuscitated if I am suffering from a terminal illness or am no longer sufficiently compos mentis to make decisions about my care or lack of it. So, no life-prolonging treatment when I don’t know who I am or have a serious physical illness causing distress and for which there is no hope of recovery.

  32. onehunglo March 31, 2017 at 1:16 pm #

    what missing in discussion is the FACT that “lawmakers” do not care or wish to enact change in healthcare.

    they in pocket of lobbyist funded by global pharma and red China.

    when you go to single payer, prepare youself for mandatory inoculation, then you will see real intent of global eugenic program led by non other than you bill gates.

    onehunglo know truth surround inoculation, as create adjuvant design as neuro-toxin and further know truth surround eugenic program, as witness first hand wide spread human elimination in red China.

    best you can do is develop local relationship with trusted health service provider and make wise daily choice in diet, nutrition, and exercise.

    expecting “lawmaker: to enact change for you benefit is folly, like chasing of wind.

    let not you heart be troubled.

    may God be with you.


    • capt spaulding March 31, 2017 at 2:11 pm #

      WunDumFuk, say what you need to say without all the cute Chinese pidgin English, and your annoying tag line. When you learn how to state your thoughts like a normal poster, people may tend to pay more attention to what you say. I doubt that is your intent, however, and I’m guessing, that you will never change your style. I’m sure that you find joy and validation in the fact that you are considered annoying by many of the people here. I am used to sitting at a table with people who are serious about the subjects they address, and you, my friend, are someone who would be asked to leave, or suffer the indignity of getting your ass kicked. No doubt this post will please you, because someone is paying attention to you, and isn’t that really what it’s all about?

      • Yuri Sowryteski March 31, 2017 at 5:28 pm #

        Onehunglow ~ Let not Capt Spaulding trouble your heart. You make some good points, however you make them. pidgen engrish ok fine.

        your point about the difference between what will sell and what is right.

      • onehunglo March 31, 2017 at 7:20 pm #

        captain, Confucius say, “When anger rises, think of the consequences.”

        onehunglo stay on health topic and demonstrate healing.

        captain, you anger so overwhelm that consequence is hypertension, heart disease, and expensive medication.

        remember, just as happiness is choice, so is anger.

        let not you heart be troubled.

        may God be with you.


    • DuckandCover March 31, 2017 at 5:06 pm #

      Awww onehunglo, I no miss you when you go.

      You driving me bat shit crazy.

      You driving everybody crazy.

      You need to go to home village and stop writing.

      I be glad when Honorable James send you bye-bye.

      • BackRowHeckler March 31, 2017 at 6:07 pm #

        Its Thwack and Dannyboy. He was so much more interesting as Dannyboy.

  33. patrickd March 31, 2017 at 1:40 pm #

    Great post, Jim. I love how you tell it like it is, with directness and no apologies. I doubt that you believe that this government of ours will ever do any of the things that you suggest need be done. I agree they need to be done, but I don’t think either you or I believe it will ever happen. How could it? Politicians are paid to do the bidding of corporations and racketeers. I wonder if you think the populace would ever rise up and force political change of any kind, for actual effect? For example, removing money interests from politics. HA! The government has served money since 1776.
    Trump was right about the medical scam imploding. He shouldn’t stop there. He should include the entirety of the US scam. The US will implode. If it doesn’t get nuked first.

  34. michael March 31, 2017 at 1:52 pm #

    The problem is the growth of MBAs in hospital administration.
    I once saw a graph that shows the unbelievable swelling of their numbers (I think on the blog “Of Two Minds”).
    Unfortunately I cannot provide a link.

    These people have no valuable skills but are promoted into management positions and siphon off an enormous tax.

    The MBA cancer does not seem to be limited to health care.
    It seems to be a cultural problem.

    • BackRowHeckler March 31, 2017 at 6:04 pm #

      in other words, parasites.

      • malthuss March 31, 2017 at 6:29 pm #

        In step with Civil Servants, Teachers, etc.

    • outsider April 1, 2017 at 1:12 pm #

      Michael – Let’s not forget that George W Bush also had an MBA. Talk about no valuable skills.

    • DA April 1, 2017 at 4:34 pm #

      It is. And I say this as a fellow MBA (2006, renounced). An MBA is nothing more than a credential for those who don’t who don’t have any, or increasingly, as a mere embellishment for those who do. My personal experience as an MBA (GAWD, what a concept!), is that it’s little more than a credential to open doors / gain access to meetings with people with which no rational human would want to talk to, to discuss subjects which no moral human would ever consider.

      The MBA degree and mindset are INDEED a cultural problem.

      • AKlein April 2, 2017 at 8:02 am #

        DA, your observation about the MBA “degree” hits the nail on the head. It’s become a pass (not “free”, of course – please check out the education racket) to be utterly amoral. The MBA degree is peddled as being the ticket to “advancement”. Yes, it is indeed a cultural problem. JHK has written several times that we are a wicked people. So much evidence that he is correct! Nevertheless, it is not a new phenomenon we endure, although in the past not on such a grand scale. The Hebrews called it worshiping Mammon.

  35. nclaughlin March 31, 2017 at 2:09 pm #

    All I can say is, WOW! Just like Donald Trump!

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  36. chipshot March 31, 2017 at 3:30 pm #

    The biggest expense to insurance companies (health, auto, property… insurance of any kind) is paying out claims.

    So the more the companies do right by their customers, the more their bottom line suffers. The more they shortchange (or shaft) their customers (by denying/minimizing claims), the more profitable they are.

    In this age of shareholders’ interest coming before the interest of customers and employees, how can for profit insurance ever be in the best interest of the majority of citizens?

    Btw, health insurance companies paid out over $20 Billion in dividends in 2016! And who owns the overwhelming majority of stock shares?
    The .1%.

    • AKlein April 2, 2017 at 8:06 am #

      Sorry Chipshot, you’re focusing on the wrong thing. $20 billion is chump change. Consider all those thousands of “administrators” who need to be put in place to extract that $20 billion. Total up their salaries and benefits. Do they deliver healthcare to anyone? No. They “administer”, which means they are servants to the real criminals who set the whole racket up.

    • Walter B March 31, 2017 at 6:12 pm #

      The article claims that the next thing they will do is ban abortions altogether – fools! Nobody is going to stop doing abortions, they are too profitable and those that want to get them should certainly be able to get them. I just don’t want to pay for someone else’s. Unless of course they are willing to pay for my beer, ALL my beer that is not just tonight’s ration, all of it. How about we throw in them paying my property taxes too?

      • Janos Skorenzy March 31, 2017 at 8:09 pm #

        Yes, I’m torn. I abhor the brutality but without it, there would be something like 40 million more Blacks in America. That’s just not viable.

        • thwack March 31, 2017 at 8:36 pm #

          How many blacks should be in America?

          • Walter B March 31, 2017 at 8:46 pm #

            As many as want to be a productive part of the team and pull their own weight. And that goes for everybody else as well.

          • thwack March 31, 2017 at 11:18 pm #

            What is this “weight” we are supposed to be “pulling?”


            what COLOR is it?


          • malthuss April 1, 2017 at 11:18 am #



            My only interest is in how to keep the black plague from spreading to unaffected areas and destroying those as they try to run from themselves to new areas, infect those and feast off whites.

            So, a black wails that they can’t go anywhere day or night for fear of other blacks? Tough.

            I couldn’t care less. In the meantime, I’ll go anywhere in my white city day or night without a care in the world and with no fear at all.

            Well, except for a small black area which is predictably crime ridden and infested with black parasites sucking off the government teat- which I will naturally avoid.

            And, yes. That area used to be solid white, safe, clean and wholesome until blacks moved into it.

          • Walter B April 1, 2017 at 4:50 pm #

            Those who live within a society and perform services of value to that society as opposed to those who take value away from the society are pulling their weight. Surely you had to have already understood the concept, right? And why is color an issue? Performance should be all that counts. Do you need an explanation of what counts means?

        • GreenAlba April 3, 2017 at 7:25 pm #

          Any chance you could give it a rest with the obnoxious racism?

  37. Georges1202 March 31, 2017 at 4:28 pm #


    This country can’t even decide where everyone should go to the bathroom, do you really think that some Hercules will come along and clean out the Augean Stables of Medicine?

    • SvrzoH April 1, 2017 at 8:05 am #

      In this country “troubled youth”, school dropout turned actor lands MD role, bangs nurses in the movie (bangs other beauties in real life), and walks away with tens of millions of $ to his Beverly
      Mansion. Real MD and his “surround” may have noticed that.
      Not that I do not agree with Jim’s post.

  38. BackRowHeckler March 31, 2017 at 6:02 pm #

    At some point this whole goddam place will collapse under its own weight like the Soviet Union did in 1989.

    The fallout from that is likely to be impressive, and awe inspiring — much worse than conditions in Russia. I know people … the only thing they know how to do is work their TV remote and talk on their cell phone. Its gonna be a real wake up call when reality smacks them in the face.


  39. islander800 March 31, 2017 at 6:21 pm #

    Why would the senate set up such a commission? They didn’t do it after 2008 looking into the financial sector, when the damage done by repealing Glass-Stegall was clear to see, and RICO charges should have flooded Wall Street, resulting in many investment banking “bucks” and their senior management going to jail. There’s little hope now for a change of heart over health care. However, should the republicans rebel against Trump to try and save their skins in the 2018 elections, it may indicate the brand is so seriously damaged by him that the senate could turn democratic, even with only one-third of the seats up for election. Then, the conversation will be much different.

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  40. tucsonspur March 31, 2017 at 6:40 pm #

    “It is really a wonder that the public has not stormed the hospitals with pitchforks and flaming brands to string up that gang….” JHK

    A wonder indeed. Have we been imbued with such reverence, such respect for these medical marauders that we are incapable of any remedial action?

    Let those medical workers find another racket. Complicit is illicit.
    Militancy with some mercy. The unemployment checks will still be there.

    There are two snakes on the caduceus. One for doctors, one for insurance companies. The wings on top fly away with your money.

    It is absolutely certain that no truly effective remedy will come from either party anytime soon. Millions upon millions of people will remain trapped in this racket, held hostage and continue to pay their own ransoms unless they pick up those pitchforks.

    I see no leadership, no organization, on the horizon. No possibility of change anytime soon. The dogma of capitalism is a cancer when it comes to health care, a camouflage for concealing the moral issue and putting profit first.

    A militant approach by people who recognize the inherent immorality
    is the only answer. Why the outrage isn’t yet a focused assault is anyone’s guess. Diversity? Factionalism? Complete confounding by the “candescent” concepts of capitalism?

    Maybe militant marches alone could do it, although I have my doubts. I think that doctors and the medical community seeing their own blood spurt would be a more effective, albeit not so surgical solution.

    • BackRowHeckler March 31, 2017 at 7:22 pm #

      Everybody seems to like their own doctor. I know I do.


      • elysianfield March 31, 2017 at 8:01 pm #

        Out here on the Left Coast, in the provinces, we are blessed with…nurse practitioners…I swear to God. Your primary care provider is often a nurse. Health care, medicine, is an art form…supported by very capable machines…yet still an art form. It is sometimes difficult to get adequate medical care from a licensed MD…but from a nurse?

        Incident one. Wife complained of “spotting” well after menopause…The NP sent her home telling her to not worry…of course it was later diagnosed as Cancer.

        Incident two; My son developed Congestive Heart Failure, along with serious pulmonary issues. He has spent four years in Portland being treated by competent cardiac specialists…was even sent to Stanford for invasive testing…has a stack of medical records two feet high. Latest provider assigned was a NP that immediately began tweaking his medication…with expected results…never read his history.

        Incident three. My Brother has recently been diagnosed with pancreatiits…acute pain, has not been able to eat well in years. Many, many attempts at diagnosis…finally an emergency room visit at 0400 one morning, with 6 hours under study diagnosed the pancreatitis. His health care provider, of course a NP, after several earlier visits, had no clue…was suggesting a diet devoid of gluten.

        Welcome to the third world….

        • pequiste March 31, 2017 at 8:29 pm #

          Arguably the most famous sentence Barry O. ever spewed (regarding the A.C.A.:)

          “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor period.”

          BRH is lucky — I don’t have doctor, I have a P.A., a physician’s assistant(; seen any out your way Elysian? ) And while she is OK it not the same as a doctor. I like an osteopathic doctor but those are quite the minority practice.

          Doesn’t really matter these days as it seems the whole medical team is looking at the computer, busily looking at and adding data into the myriad of screens and only giving the patient the occasional uh-huh or I see.

          But it helps keep costs down and shareholder value up.

          • AKlein April 2, 2017 at 8:14 am #

            Yeah, shareholder “value”. Let’s face it, the culture has been arranged so that one way or another, we are all fucking each other. Or, perhaps more accurately, we have defined “success” as being able to participate the fuckfest. I wonder – is the “winner” the one you ejaculates first, or is it last? Now there’s a question for the CFN rocket scientists to ponder!

          • elysianfield April 2, 2017 at 11:08 am #

            The true “winner” is the one that comes away without a social disease….

  41. meargen March 31, 2017 at 7:53 pm #

    Harold Covington, on his latest NWF podcast, instead of having the usual program on NW migration to save the white race, had a panel discussing medicine and health. A lot of it had to do with holistic medicine as well as proper health, and a sound medical policy.

    In his NW novels, Harold envisions a republic where medical care is free. He feels whites, if they keep out non-whites and transients who come in on the dole, can maintain a proper, low-cost health system. A problem now is the amount of illegals coming in to milk the system.
    Also, there was a lot of good information, especially on vitamins. They said how people need more magnesium now because the soil is so poor from chemicals used for farming. Also, how blood transfusion actually helps your body by creating new blood cells.

    A point emphasized over and over is how processed food is killing people, who don’t need crap like corn syrup and refined wheat.

    Covington remarked on the VA, especially how he has to get a lot of medical care there, and also the need to control big pharmaceuticals. Nice to see the far right and a lot of you would agree on something. It’s a good podcast to listen to.

    I’ve been running since I was 25, and am 64 now. The ancient Greeks believed hard running was essential for a man to be healthy, and jogging has been a part of my life, but I stopped running 10 years ago on my doctor’s advice. I use a treadmill for 30 minutes each day at 4.2 miles, also use weights, rowing machine, and 30 push-ups every morning. I’m overweight because my job requires me to sit all the time(and also because I’m a writer), and I do eat a lot of sweets, but I’ve lost 10 pounds since January.
    In the army, I remember we always had to run in boots. Also, even when off-duty, the paratroops preferred to run in their boots all the time…they considered joggers to be pansies.

    I walk whenever I can. Much more of it done when I lived in Boston and Germany, less so here in St. Louis.

    I remember when John Gunther wrote Inside Russia in the 50’s, he said Moscow would be a more attractive city if the people all lost ten pounds. I feel the same about most of America now.

    A good piece of advice is keep food basic. The more you process it, the worse it gets. I was watching one of these food shows showing how they make stuff, and peanut brittle was featured. I think it’s one of the most useless foods invented, a good way to louse up a peanut, especially seeing a whole vat labeled CORN SYRUP, and dousing everything in it. It can chip your teeth, it has zero nutritional value. A real factory food if ever there was one.

    When JHK and I were younger, there was a real war on bacon, but now it’s everywhere on TV. There’s a hot dog advertised with an egg on it, then double bacon, and cheese. And don’t forget the sweet barbecue sauce. Amazing the shit Americans eat.

    Eating right isn’t a panacea, but certainly would improve a lot of health in America. It would be nice to see Trump mention this, but I understand he eats a lot of junk food. Besides, if anyone in power
    wanted to abolish corn syrup, the war from Archer Daniels Midland would make the democrats looking for Russian agents small potatoes…which isn’t a bad food, just don’t do a lot to it.

  42. mow March 31, 2017 at 8:05 pm #

    We are so afraid of death .
    No wonder the system has us by the neck.

    • malthuss April 1, 2017 at 11:20 am #

      He was no ‘angel.’
      He was a demon.

    • DA April 1, 2017 at 4:22 pm #

      The basic American/western “fear of fears.” What can you possibly expect from a system so inherently wed to carnal pleasures? Our collective lust for immortality merely disguises our own basic fear of mortality. EXCELLENT POINT!

  43. JayTe March 31, 2017 at 8:06 pm #


    That’s only a minor piece of the problem. The whole basis is flawed. You cannot have healthcare where there is no focus on health. Almost every disease can be traced to either nutritional deficiencies or toxins. But yet when a person has a disease that is known to be related to nutritional deficiencies (such as cystic fibrosis – selenium), the solution of the present medical system is to pump a person with tar derived petrochemicals which are in 80% of the cases are based on plants, herbs and foods which are known by the pharmaceutical companies to have health benefits to the population!?! The only way to resolve this is: 1. to actually have competition across all the different forms of medicine; 2. Get rid of the FDA and force companies to buy liability insurance for the products and services that they put out on the market. With just those two changes, you would see healthcare costs drop along the lines of what exists in the smartphone or computer markets.

    • thwack March 31, 2017 at 9:13 pm #

      Almost every disease can be traced to either nutritional deficiencies or toxins.


      Whats the best recipe to have really vivid dreams?

      I can’t seem to figure out or control how and when they happen?


      should I try to make sense of my dreams?

      I heard this one guy claim dreams are the equivalent of when you defrag the hard drive of your computer; so you really don.t need to stress on the whole meaning thing?

      Dreams are like doing drugs.


      • thwack March 31, 2017 at 10:30 pm #

        Carl Jung is brilliant on dreams and synchronicity:


        I was afraid you’d say that?

        Is there a short cut around the research?

        is David Byrne stuff the “short cut?”

        Yeah Im in a hurry

        • onehunglo March 31, 2017 at 11:49 pm #

          onehunglo not know david byrne, but can speak to carl jung.

          time you invest in Jungian study will produce benefit to health, as it make you more centered in correlate dream to living life on earth.

          synchronicity also point to extra dimensional force/energy that prove to be common thread through all humanity.

          let not you heart be troubled.

          may God be with you.


    • DA April 1, 2017 at 4:16 pm #

      2. Get rid of the FDA and force companies to buy liability insurance for the products and services that they put out on the market.

      WOW! Is that EVER a novel and totally upside down way of looking at things! I don’t know whether you thought of that yourself sir, but MAN!!!, is that ever a fresh break from reality! KUDOS ARE YOURS, I”M SURE! I wish I’d gave thought of that!

  44. tucsonspur March 31, 2017 at 9:38 pm #

    “Everybody seems to like their own doctor. I know I do”. BRH

    Good for you. I guess that you have pretty good coverage and don’t think that you’re a victim of any racket. Your coverage is still paying the ransom to the racket.

    Liking your doctor is not the point. The point is that doctors and the medical establishment have us held hostage like James says, and that the costs are excessively extortionate.

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    • BackRowHeckler April 1, 2017 at 12:38 am #

      What you say is correct, tuscon. I was just offering it as a reason people don’t show up at the local medical clinic and burn the goddam place down, as some here have suggested.


      • tucsonspur April 1, 2017 at 2:42 am #

        You make a good point. Part of the problem may be just that. Unfocused and constrained anger directed at the medical “system” overall, and no pressure on individual practitioners, even though they very profitably partake.

        True, some would not deserve violence, and the backlash of public outrage should be avoided.

        Larger, centralized insurance and medical center targets may be the better way to go. I know, sounds like the radical sixties, but I see no other way of ending this twisted, immoral, “racket of rackets”.

  45. janet March 31, 2017 at 10:24 pm #

    The only racket as big or worse than health care is religion — the all time leader in the bullshit for billions business. –My Point of View

    Religion is involved in the complete denial of health care in the US. Many hospitals follow the Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Services, which are promulgated by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which set forth standards for the provision of care at Catholic health care facilities. In some places, such as Washington State, more than 40 percent of all hospital beds are in a Catholic hospital, and entire regions have no other option for hospital care. In ten states, more than 30 percent of all hospital beds are in Catholic facilities, and in nearly half the states, more than one in five hospital beds is in a Catholic facility.

    The Catholic Directives prohibit a range of reproductive health services, including contraception, sterilization, many infertility treatments, and abortion, even when a woman’s life or health is jeopardized by a pregnancy. Because of these rules, many Catholic hospitals across this country are withholding emergency care from patients who are in the midst of a miscarriage or experiencing other pregnancy complications.

    Catholic hospitals also routinely prohibit doctors from performing tubal ligations (commonly known as “getting your tubes tied”) at the time of delivery, when the procedure is safest, leaving patients to undergo an additional surgery elsewhere after recovering from childbirth. Catholic hospitals deny these essential health services despite receiving billions in taxpayer dollars. Transgender and gender-non-conforming patients suffer the same and other, similar harms when seeking reproductive health care. The ACLU is actively involved in fighting for patients rights to health care.

    Donate to the ACLU

    • DA April 1, 2017 at 4:07 pm #

      Nice to see that you believe in something at least janet. If you’ll forgive me for trying to categorize you, I’d say that you’re a hard core neo-liberal secular, modernist(?), mostly feminist(?), progressive. Is that about right? And I’m also guessing that when it comes to foreign policy, to the degree that you’d consider it at all, you’d support pretty much any agenda that supports those basic beliefs. Is that about right?

  46. Q. Shtik March 31, 2017 at 10:25 pm #


    To finish a thread from the prior blog conversation……..

    I don’t see how a person such as yourself, who invariably brings up racism, can fail to recognize the truth in Fred’s blog.

    Diversity is not “our strength,” rather it is something we barely manage to tolerate.

    • thwack March 31, 2017 at 11:33 pm #

      “I don’t see how a person such as yourself, who invariably brings up racism,”


      Q Shtik,

      are you are a white person?

      • Q. Shtik April 1, 2017 at 12:43 am #

        Q Shtik,

        are you are a white person?


        Do you drink alcohol excessively?

  47. barbisbest March 31, 2017 at 10:31 pm #

    Ayn Rand ended up in Medicare. Ha.ha. ha.ha ha. That’s precious. ” A nation we are supposed to care about.” Back the truck up! That’s like feeling. Ixnae on that crap. But, it does beg the question, what is a nation. Is it the land mass. Is it the institutions (Ooy) Is it the people. Multiple choice. An angel made me do it.

    • outsider April 1, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

      barbi – Certainly no Ayn Rand fan here. Most adolescents outgrow it. Maybe that says something about Paul Ryan’s Objectivist beliefs. But, in Rand’s defense, she no doubt justified taking Medicare because the taxes for it were extracted from her at the point of a gun.

  48. Buck Stud March 31, 2017 at 10:35 pm #

    The economy is by definition “entangled”. Seek to do something righteous and positive “here” and something wrong and harmful is done there.

    For instance: the young medical professional saddled with six figure student loan debt. If the country transitioned into a more affordable system–less of a racket–how will a young and aspiring M.D. manage to pay off his student loan debt?

    Will the finance and education industries, much less all of the tight-fisted hard asses in the House of Representatives and all their powerful lobbyists sign off on something akin to a debt jubilee for young Marcus Welby?

  49. nsa March 31, 2017 at 11:12 pm #

    In the 1950s, medical was about 4% of GDP and almost everyone paid their own bill. In 2017, medical is about 20% of GDP and almost no one pays their own bill. Coincidence? Correlation? Causation?

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  50. nsa March 31, 2017 at 11:20 pm #

    Whale Watch: in 1950 the average adult female weighed 125 lbs…..in 2017 the average adult female weighs 170 lbs. You should see some of these heifers with their clothes off……

    • onehunglo March 31, 2017 at 11:45 pm #

      onehunglo try to understand.

      does extra weight make woman healthier and roar louder??


  51. KesaAnna April 1, 2017 at 12:30 am #

    ” The US Senate needs to set up an equivalent of the Pecora Commission to thoroughly expose the cost racketeering in medicine, enable the prosecution of the people driving it, and propose a Single Payer remedy for flushing it away. The Department of Justice can certainly apply the RICO anti-racketeering statutes against the big health care conglomerates and their executives personally. I don’t know why it has not done so already — except for the obvious conclusion that our elected officials have been fully complicit in the medical rackets,….. ”

    Who would staff this commission ?

    YOU suggested it YOURSELF ;

    ” Be warned: these represent tens of thousands of supposedly “good” jobs. Of course, they are “good” because they pay middle class wages, of which there are fewer and fewer elsewhere in the economy. But, they are well-paid because of the grotesquely profitable racket they serve. They’ve turned an entire generation of office workers into servants of criminal enterprise ”

    i.e. Thousands of people are in some greater or lesser degree complicit.

    The solution is , I think, obvious and simple ;

    Right from the start, ANYONE and EVERYONE is promised immunity from prosecution .

    That way, neither U.S. Senators, nor some later-day John Demjanjuk , need sweat their own fate. We can concentrate on fixing the problem , not fixing blame.

    Sadly, dismally, the average American would not forego the vicarious pleasure of putting a stranger in a cage, even if that means sinking the Titanic , and themselves with it.

    • elysianfield April 1, 2017 at 11:15 am #

      Putting people in cages is a recurring theme with your posts.

      Permit me an observation;

      You studied law enforcement,

      You joined a department,

      You failed probation.


  52. janet April 1, 2017 at 12:40 am #

    Diversity is not “our strength,” rather it is something we barely manage to tolerate. –Qshit

    The health care racket places more responsibility on us to maintain health through sensible diet and exercise. The best way to do this, the best way to gain strength, is through diversity. Diversity is strength.

    When exercising, do not repetitively do just one exercise for one muscle group, to the exclusion of all others. The best approach to develop your strength is diversity, to exercise all muscle groups. Diversity is strength. To focus only on one group and let the others atrophy would not be smart.

    When eating you may really like mashed potatoes, but do not repetitively eat just one food (mashed potatoes) to the exclusion of all others. The best approach is a balanced diverse diet to develop the strength of your immune system. Diversity is strength. To eat exclusively only one food would not provide you with balanced nutrition you need and would not be smart.

    Same goes for permaculture, for investing in stocks, for developing a strong fighting force, etc. It is better to practice diversity. Why? Because diversity is strength.

    • Buck Stud April 1, 2017 at 2:32 am #

      Janet LaLanne–I never cease to be amazed 🙂

  53. KesaAnna April 1, 2017 at 12:51 am #

    ” it does beg the question, what is a nation. Is it the land mass. Is it the institutions (Ooy) Is it the people. ”

    I know healthcare will not be fixed , not because I am psychic, not because I am some sort of perceptive genius , I am neither.
    I need see , and know , only one thing ;

    Whenever the subject comes up, at least half the commentary amounts to pious platitudes about cheeseburgers and cigarettes ,

    and narratives built on the highly dubious proposition that living to be 150 is the norm.

    as if this were an Episode of The Peoples Court , or worse, The Jerry Sprenger Show .

    The petty, pointless, vindictiveness of Americans , directed at their own , is staggering.

    Whatever American nationalism is, it certainly is not love of people.

    • KesaAnna April 1, 2017 at 12:55 am #

      So I doubt these people will help each other.

    • Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2017 at 1:47 am #

      Yes, too much diversity – even among Whites. And of course Class Warfare, made worse by not acknowledging it. Instead, all focus is put on race grievance by minorities against Whites. This is brutal class war against the White lower and middle class by the Judeo-Masonic Elite.

      • janet April 1, 2017 at 2:43 am #

        This is brutal class war against the White lower and middle class by the Judeo-Masonic Elite. –janos

        janos, by saying “Judeo-Masonic elite” you are saying it is a select group that is superior to the rest in terms of ability or qualities. That is what your use of the word “elite” means.

        You can resist but your resistance is futile because your racist mindset is inferior to that of the globalist “elite” …

        Although your self-designated inferiority indicates progress … you are coming around, beginning to see things as they are. Your choice of language reflects that.

        I alone can fix it. –short-fingered vulgarian

        • outsider April 1, 2017 at 12:46 pm #

          janet – Not speaking for Janos, but I think he’s referring to “elite” in terms of money and power, not in terms of superiority of ability. “Elite” can mean many things.

          • DA April 1, 2017 at 3:56 pm #

            Agreed. Janos is definitely onto something, although he does not always articulate it entirely well, or at least in a politically correct manner. Pretty much a given, given the sensibilities of our host.

    • DA April 1, 2017 at 12:48 pm #

      STAGGERINGLY great comment! Bravo!

  54. janet April 1, 2017 at 1:04 am #

    You can bet the FIRE sector people who profit so much from it now will never let that happen. –DA

    Actually providing health care has already happened. Millions more are receiving health care through Obamacare. Obamacare can evolve into single payer without much trouble. The systems are already in place. A one page piece of legislation would change the ages eligible, just as was done, with no fuss, to expand the age for coverage of children to age 26. Just as was done to expand the eligibility for Medicaid. Medicare already exists. Medicare age eligibility can be phased in. It doesn’t require new bureaucracy or more government. People seem to know this. A majority already favor Medicare for all.

    Polling from Gallup presented respondents with a series of nonexclusive options for how the American health-care system might move forward:

    1) federally centralized health care (i.e., single-payer),

    2) a repeal of the Affordable Care Act (i.e., Obamacare) or

    3) keeping Obamacare as the system.

    Of those three, federally funded health care — that is, single-payer — was the most popular, with 58 percent support.

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    • DA April 1, 2017 at 12:46 pm #

      Actually, I’m retired military, so I know full well that a Medicare for all system could work. That said, as the military has also proven so well, as long as a large for-profit sector can exist along side it, the best and the brightest of the medical providers will of course gravitate to it to reap it’s out-sized rewards, similar to the way Wall Street has been cannibalizing top legal, engineering, IT, and mathematical talent for years now. And as we’re also seeing now, Medicare can easily be infiltrated and gamed by the corporate gangsters as well, so I’m somewhat reticent about recommending going all in on Medicare for all as a solution either.

      Our primary problem, over and above the healthcare system itself even, is the complete infiltration and gutting of the US government itself by the corporate racketeers and their whole Ayn Randian John Galt mindset. The US suffers from much more than a crisis of “ways and means,” but rather from a fully metastasized, hyper-aggressive cancer of unbridled “free market” global corporate capitalism. It’s a malignancy that will very soon kill its host without some very radical chemo-therapy, if indeed, it’s not too late for that even.

  55. KesaAnna April 1, 2017 at 1:40 am #

    ” The health care racket places more responsibility on us to maintain health through sensible diet and exercise. ”

    Notice that she, herself, calls it a racket, but then takes it for granted that it is just fine for this racket to impose responsibilities on us.

    And rarely, if ever, will we discuss how these imposed responsibilities may be as bad for our health as any dietary or exercise factors.

    ” The only racket as big or worse than health care is religion. ”

    Going to church is voluntary. Giving the church money is voluntary.
    I think it is telling that you identify this one, voluntary, institution as a major problem,
    But see scarce any problem in a score of decidedly involuntary institutions if they reflect your dogma, see only any problem if they don’t.
    But in either case, never mind that they are coercive by nature and by design .

    ” The Catholic Directives prohibit a range of reproductive health services ”

    Rapists and child molesters are basically condemned for not keeping their pants on.
    That condemnation goes far beyond refusing a service.

    But I owe you a service for……not keeping your pants on.

    In my view the Catholic church has been far kinder to you than you deserve.

  56. FincaInTheMountains April 1, 2017 at 6:25 am #

    Trump in attack mode: in apparent immunity deal Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Russia/Ukraine/Eurasia Evelyn Farkas blows wide open illegal dissemination of classified materials Live On MSNBC

    Who the Hell Is Evelyn Farkas?

    Farkas has “advised three secretaries of defense on Russia policy,” according to a senior defense official quoted in Politico. She has served on the Council on Foreign Relations and the Senate Armed Services Committee, among others, and was executive director of the Commission on the Prevention of Weapons of Mass Destruction Proliferation and Terrorism in 2008-2009.

    Farkas would hen go on to serve as a foreign policy advisor for Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

    Squeals Live On MSNBC: I Helped Spy On Trump For Obama!!!


    I was urging my former colleagues and frankly speaking the people on the Hill—it was more actually aimed at telling the Hill people—get as much information as you can, get as much intelligence as you can before President Obama leaves the administration. Because I had a fear that somehow that information would disappear with the senior people who left. So it would be hidden away in the bureaucracy that the Trump folks—if they found out how we knew what we knew about the Trump staff, dealing with Russians—that they would try to compromise those sources and methods, meaning we would no longer have access to that intelligence.
    So I became very worried because not enough was coming out into the open and I knew that there was more. We have very good intelligence on Russia. So then I had talked to some of my former colleagues and I knew that they were also trying to help get information to the Hill.


  57. barbisbest April 1, 2017 at 6:27 am #

    Geez, I thought I’d get a rise out of Janos with the what is a nation. You’re right Kesa Anna, Americans vindictiveness to each other is staggering. What JHK writes about is important. Those doing the racketeering, I believe, care about their bottom line or the reaping of their racketeering, not the “nation”. while I’m the subject, what’s Trump’S approval rating 20 percent. Congrats America the biggest conman who ever lived. That and his sidekick Kellyanne Conjob.

    • outsider April 1, 2017 at 12:34 pm #

      barbi – Every morning when I wake up, and every night when I put my head on the pillow, I say to myself – Thank g-d Hillary wasn’t elected, thank g-d Hillary wasn’t elected.

    • Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2017 at 2:12 pm #

      Sorry Barb, I missed it. It’s the people obviously. The Indians were thousands of different warring stone age tribes. Then Whites came, conquered and dispossessed them and ultimately founded America. So how on Earth do the aboriginals earn the important title of “Native Americans”? We are. Giving that away is criminal and will lead to the fall of America. Ideas matter. Wars are won in the mind and heart before they can be won in the “real world”. You like peace? Then be strong because strength prevents war while weakness guarantees it.

      There’s a difference between being Queen of England and Queen of the English. They’ve gone with the former so now every 3rd Worlde is now just as good as an Englishman – in the Englishman’s own country. And actually better as per reparations of all kinds. A recipe for peace? Oh Barb.

  58. FincaInTheMountains April 1, 2017 at 6:29 am #

    What did “Obama” officials know and when did they know it?


  59. FincaInTheMountains April 1, 2017 at 6:32 am #

    N.Korean Kim Jong-Un performs a little victory dance


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  60. FincaInTheMountains April 1, 2017 at 6:41 am #

    Fox admits US defeat in a new Cold War with Russia

    Russia reportedly set to produce 4,6000-MPH hypersonic missile

    Of course the number 4,6000 mph that appeared on the front page of Fox News was a Freudian slip, but the fact remains – US Air Carriers have no defense against Russian newest missile


    • outsider April 1, 2017 at 12:29 pm #

      Fincaln – From everything I’ve read, the Russians are now way ahead in missile technology. Actually, I hope it is so. That should (but would it?) mean we are much less likely to start a war against them. If the Russians are that much ahead, seems like that would be proof positive of how hopelessly corrupt our military/security complex has become – especially since our budget is at least 10 times theirs. Of course, Russian missile supremacy could all be fake news.

      • FincaInTheMountains April 1, 2017 at 2:59 pm #

        Of course, Russian missile supremacy could all be fake news.

        There is only one way to find it out, and we both don’t want to go there.

      • Buck Stud April 1, 2017 at 3:18 pm #

        The U.S. military has been perilously close to “falling behind” and even being surpassed in military technology for how many decades now–since right around the end of WW2?

        • DA April 1, 2017 at 6:05 pm #

          I only hope that the question mark at the end of your statement means that you’re questioning its validity, Buck.

  61. barbisbest April 1, 2017 at 6:46 am #

    Oooo. That Kim jung- u n dance thing. Nasty stuff. Dint click on that!

  62. wm5135 April 1, 2017 at 6:54 am #

    Mr. Kunstler, my offhand comment was certainly not directed at you or any of your writing. I would have addressed you directly and not have taken a sniper shot if there were something I felt strongly about. My apology sir.

    My reference was to the trio of Galt, Tibbs and the one dangling fellow. The comments in the first hours after your post generally tend to the address the subject of the post. Since the advent of the above referenced commenters more scrolling and less reading is required. I appreciate your open comments section and do not have censorship in mind at all. I hold out an olive branch.

  63. FincaInTheMountains April 1, 2017 at 7:09 am #

    Will Clintonoids have enough time to make it to Canadian border?


    If Hollywood paid more attention to American classics and Moscow Hollywood they would never become caught by their own propaganda. This is how Russian film director Gaiday foresaw Whoopi Goldberg and Madonna in 1962:

    – How long you could hold him?
    – My strength is not what it used to be, but 10 minutes I could guarantee
    – Thank you! Enough time for us to make it to Canadian border!


  64. FincaInTheMountains April 1, 2017 at 9:56 am #

    Full Speed Ahead – I like that!

    Just throw overboard the ship the unnecessary ballast.

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  65. barbisbest April 1, 2017 at 10:48 am #

    Or, is a nation a community of people who have a similar belief system and/or perception of truisms. Now that is a serious thought.

    • onehunglo April 1, 2017 at 11:02 am #

      you very wise one indeed.

      health of community contingent upon health of individual.

      community sustain when individual seek to ease suffering of other.

      wealth is ability to fully experience life.

      many deceive into believe policy change occur at top…..they be deceive for very long time.

      change occur in individual at local level building out community.

      Confucius say, “they must often change, who would be constant in wisdom or happiness.”

      let not you heart be troubled.

      may God be with you.


    • outsider April 1, 2017 at 12:17 pm #

      barbi – Yes, that is a Nation. In the USA we just have a Country. Big difference.

      • Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2017 at 2:17 pm #

        And the only way to even hope to get everyone on the same page is to have one people per nation and thus one culture per. You know, kind of like having one mind per body? The alternative is madness.

        • elysianfield April 2, 2017 at 11:32 am #

          Your allegory is a truth that cannot be honestly argued as otherwise. Thank you.

  66. barbisbest April 1, 2017 at 10:57 am #

    Donald Trump is a good man, cares about his nation and is already the best president we have ever had. He will never take a vacation because of all the work he will do on behalf of his nation. April fools.

    • outsider April 1, 2017 at 12:15 pm #

      Who needs a vacation when you have Mira Lago to go to every weekend?

  67. FincaInTheMountains April 1, 2017 at 11:12 am #

    Stop Everything You’re Doing! You Will Not Regret Watching This


  68. malthuss April 1, 2017 at 11:15 am #

    Have you noticed how the number of comments has greatly increased?

    I am reading less of the comments. Many comments are not worth reading.

    On a separate note, Where is Barak Obama?

    • FincaInTheMountains April 1, 2017 at 11:20 am #

      In a better place than you and me are:


  69. barbisbest April 1, 2017 at 11:22 am #

    Blessed are the thinking/feeling class One Hung lo. Malthus. There are many comments here. Even the dull and ignorant have a story.

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    • Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2017 at 2:20 pm #

      And Sweden is a viable country, right Barb? Mixing Swedes and Somalis couldn’t possibly lead to problems since people are people. Swedes just have to adapt as they are colonized and colon ized.

  70. barbisbest April 1, 2017 at 11:25 am #

    Who cares where Barack Obama is.

  71. stelmosfire April 1, 2017 at 11:59 am #

    Marlin says:
    Everybody seems to like their own doctor. I know I do.

    My Doc is great, he rides his bike to work(12-13 miles) he built an enclosed torpedo bike for bad weather. When I see him once a year I schedule as the last appointment of the day and we usually shoot the shit for maybe 30-45 minutes.

    • FincaInTheMountains April 1, 2017 at 12:41 pm #

      Last time I had an encounter with American doctor is when I woke up in an emergency room with needles stuck all over my body, delivered by an ambulance after a good shashlik (Russian style barbeque) and a couple of buckets of Stoli.

      He told me that my cholesterol level was 3 times the near-death level and I must go through multiple diagnostic procedures and remain in intensive care.

      Actually, I felt pretty good, so I told him in a friendly manner that he was full of shit, unstuck the needles and walked away. Oh boy, was he pissed!

      Later, I checked my cholesterol – it was in a desirable range according to a doctor-friend of mine, and high levels were, most likely, due to lots of meat and vodka consumed before.

      • outsider April 1, 2017 at 1:29 pm #

        Turns out that this obsession with cholesterol is bogus. Studies have now shown that it is not a killer, in fact too low cholesterol is more likely to kill you. I suggest any articles/books written by Dr. Duane Graveline (the SpaceDoc). Statins are poison. I cannot prove it, but I’m convinced they gave me irreversible peripheral neuropathy.

        • DA April 1, 2017 at 3:48 pm #

          See my post downstream. I actually researched this topic quite extensively when my Dr. tried to convince me to go on statins. Thanks but no thanks I said, there’s EXTENSIVE research (many BOOKS, in fact!) to support the fact that the “Cholesterol Myth” is just that – a myth! And guess what? They’ve quit pushing the shit now! A true WIN WIN for the American consumer! Not to worry though, the incorrigible bastards will come up with another “existential worry” soon enough. Count on it!

      • Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2017 at 2:23 pm #

        So you’re saying that the level goes up and down daily or even hourly?

        • FincaInTheMountains April 1, 2017 at 2:26 pm #

          Janos, it is what they measure could vary greatly – I think it has something to do with Einstein-Finca paradox – trying to find a black cat in a dark room which is not even there.

          • AKlein April 2, 2017 at 8:20 am #

            Janos, I think perhaps the levels, and the consequent diagnosis, can be correlated to the timing of the payment of the Mercedes bill, or perhaps the boat payment.

  72. volodya April 1, 2017 at 12:10 pm #

    In the free-market system in the Land of Liberty, the one and only priority is the corporate bottom line. And that’s fine by both the Left and the Right of the political spectrum. Both represent elite interests, both signed off on it.

    Which means that anything goes, and anything not specifically disallowed by law is permitted. Which IMO is why health-care rackets are allowed to persist. It’s in the interests of the elite. Reform benefiting the hoi polloi goes against the grain of that elite self-interest.

    The corporate bottom line is the only concern of the Right. They make no bones about that, so don’t look to them. But, the so-called Left, as embodied by Hillary and Bill, has as its base prosperous college educated denizens of coastal bubble-lands. The Democrat base, being financially comfortable with no worries about their own health care, could give a shit about people in less financially secure situations who ARE worried. So don’t look to them either.

    Note the scorn heaped by Hillary and her acolytes during the last campaign on those deplorable ignoramuses, those un-educated, low-information voters. How DARE they have priorities, how DARE they presume to have opinions. So I guess slander is the fashion nowadays. That’s how you establish Progressives bona fides.

    Mark Shields admitted last night on PBS that he (and others of the Progressive High Horse Left) missed the story of people “left behind”, of people that voted for Trump because he told them he “felt their pain”.

    Well, it pains my ass that they use a Clintonism to trivialize a historic betrayal. “Left behind” they say. Let’s get it right, they were thrown overboard. But these are quibbles, they “missed” the story of the economic demolition of fly-over America and the resultant discontent.

    Actually, let’s be honest, they didn’t “miss” the story. If it indeed WAS a “miss”, it came from a monumental act of negligence. But it wasn’t a “miss”, it was a collective act of disregard. Nobody with functioning eye-balls who actually gave a shit could “miss” the economic distress of so many people. No, at best it was indifference at work. I think it was Charles Murray who said a while back that his interests weren’t affected so he didn’t see. All you can say to that is at least he’s honest.

    And now they sell us this swill about health care reform being politically impossible. Too many congressional log-jams they say. But if it was in the interest of the elites – those being Oligarchs and their perfumed coastal clerisy – who until now pretend to have been terribly pre-occupied by issues of bathroom use, the log-jams would miraculously clear up.

    • DA April 1, 2017 at 12:28 pm #

      Excellent summary volodya!

      • janet April 1, 2017 at 1:27 pm #

        But wrong-headed. Nobody “missed the story of people “left behind”
        You are re-writing history. Hillary went on a listening campaign and sat and listened to the stories. She was well aware of the plight of the deplorables. She was not a TV celebrity who practiced “you’re fired” and wore it like a crown.

        • DA April 1, 2017 at 2:32 pm #

          You’ll advance your case much further Janet if when the discussion is about HRC you keep the focus there, and stop using Trump as a diversion. Even HRC’s closest campaign aides have publicly remarked about what an uncompassionate witch she was toward her “base,” as well as the people of all stripes she interacted with every day. I’m not especially fond of The Donald either, but I was one of the many who briefly considered HRC as a presidential candidate, and then turned away in horror.

          I, and a whole lot of other people just like me, view her as nothing more than a vain, boot-licking sociopath in a class all her own. Probably understandable after being subjected to the world-class sociopathy of Bill all her life, but the fact remains. She would no doubt have immediately given the green light to all the anti-Russian hysteria that she and her minions had spent so much time generating during the reign of Obama, the continued struggle for which we’re no doubt seeing played out as we speak.

          For most of us, Trump’s primary calling as president is to resist the current neo-lib/con call for war with Russia insanity. If Trump does nothing else in whatever time he has left in the White House, his election will have proven to be fruitful.

    • Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2017 at 2:35 pm #

      Well said. The root of ignorance is ignoring. It’s a choice, be it either conscious or unconscious.

      An English poster admitted it was “a problem” when I brought up English pensioners freezing to death in their own homes. A problem? Not an atrocity that will be amended? The tepid language shows its low priority and that it will continue. White pensioners that is. Immigrants feed off the substance of the nation and there’s not enough left for the English. Likewise the hundred thousand English girls who have been groomed, raped, and pimped: It’s not a problem, it’s de facto policy; simply one of the ways England is to be transformed into a Muslim culture and nation.

      The Civil Servants were afraid to say anything because it would be “racism”. Ditto the Police. They would arrest fathers who tried to get their daughters back. And they would arrest an underage White girl intoxicated on the street late at night. But her adult Muslim companions? Nothing. This is supposed to be all some kind of mistake? Nothing doing. It comes from the Top. It’s policy. These lickspittles are just “doing their job”.

      • DA April 1, 2017 at 3:10 pm #

        As always Janos, there’s always at least a kernel of truth to what you say and you make your points well, without undue resort to current MSM talking points and statistical gobbledygook. I might not always agree with you, but I at least always trust and respect the fact that you’re making your arguments sincerely. Kudos!

        • thwack April 1, 2017 at 4:54 pm #

          but like all racists, his hipocrisy kills him every time

          • DA April 1, 2017 at 5:47 pm #

            Sadly, yes.

          • thwack April 1, 2017 at 8:50 pm #


            fuck him and the collectivist horse he rode in on.

            Its his fault he can’t come up with a coherent racial narrative

          • DA April 1, 2017 at 9:18 pm #

            That’s harsh, thwack. It’s ALL of ours fault when we can’t come up with a coherent narrative for what’s going on. Ask yourself, are janet and the neo-libs any more righteous in their views simply because they currently hold social power? I would STRENUOUSLY assert not, even though the current “thought police” would soon have me arrested for saying so.

            Dismissing Janos as a mere “racist” is far too easy an answer, and I will GLADLY stand with him in asserting his right to his opinions, even though he’ll likely resent me for doing so.

          • DA April 1, 2017 at 10:08 pm #

            And to Janos, I would gladly assert that I’d MORE THAN WILLINGLY pay homage to ANY MAN of ANY COLOR who could play the classic guitar solo played here beginning at ~3:30. SIMPLY SHOW STOPPING!


          • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2017 at 3:14 pm #

            And would a Black do likewise? Or do they not give Whites the short shrift like Ken Burns did in his Documentary on Jazz. No great White Jazz Men?

            Remember, Adult White Sports Fans wear the name and numbers of Black players on their person (which is grotesque to begin with no matter what the race) whereas not even Black kids will ever wear a White player’s number.

            What you fail to understand completely is that your homage, worship, or even just respect are not returned in kind. And your mindset, required among your class, dooms the White Race and Western Culture. This lowlife is a perfect example:


            We are being denied Dasein – being in and for itself. Being for ourselves first and foremost in more colloquial terms. And you’re fine and more than fine with it. So you might not say what this cuck says, but you’re basically of the same mindset though perhaps more subtle. But in any case, the result will be the same: extinction.

      • elysianfield April 2, 2017 at 11:26 am #

        “The root of ignorance is ignoring”

        No, that is not correct. The “ignoring” implies knowledge not given consideration. Would ignoring Janet’s posts make me ignorant? No. I understand what she writes, I just give her thoughts no consideration.

        The root of ignorance involves apathy and lack of observation.

        • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2017 at 3:21 pm #

          The mind has many levels, most not fully conscious. We’re icebergs with most of us below the surface. People often don’t know because they don’t want to know. Why? Because fully acknowledging would require action they don’t wish to take, either out of laziness or vested interest.

          Your two roots are correct of course, but there’s often quite a bit more in play.

  73. wm5135 April 1, 2017 at 1:17 pm #

    Volodya “And now they sell us this swill about health care reform being politically impossible. Too many congressional log-jams they say. But if it was in the interest of the elites-”

    I would edit your line to finish ” it would already have been done”.

    How do you “miss” a blatant betrayal of a people?

    • volodya April 1, 2017 at 1:45 pm #

      I like your ending better. It’s directly to the point.

      How do you miss a blatant betrayal of a people? It wasn’t in their interest to see it so they didn’t see it. That makes the moral universe of coastal elites highly suspect. They sell out their fellow citizens, they sell out their own country, they build up a foreign adversary’s economy making it an industrial power and military rival. All for temporary financial advantage. From a geo-political standpoint as stupid as can be. Makes the elite’s intellectual pretensions laughable too.

      These people are too smug by half. They think they can’t be dislodged from national and global pre-eminence. Highly mistaken this is. They’ll find that the Chinese over yonder are not inclined to take direction from corporate boardrooms in NYC nor the White House nor the State Dept. Maybe they already noticed that those Beijing fellas that command legions of soldiers and police are rather more accustomed to giving orders.

      • onehunglo April 1, 2017 at 3:22 pm #

        many decade ago, onehunglo suffer disk injury in martial art event.

        on visit to Party medical, informed without asset or family standing in Party, surgical procedure simply not possible, unless join Party.

        onehunglo join, have procedure, then work 3 decade as bio-chemist, develop adjuvants, now repent every minute every day for it, and leave Party far behind.

        in red China, Party teach all human readily expendable for greater good (as define by Party).

        onehunglo now reside in Hong Kong, and have relationship with local acupuncture for weekly pain management on cash only basis.

        you not satisfied with delivery of healthcare??

        chance are neither is local qualified healthcare practitioner.

        best to develop local cash only basis.

        no cash to buy procedure??

        in red China, saying is, “too bad, so sad, now you die.”

        in you country, you at least have chance to find practitioner loyal to Hippocratic oath to provide treatment.

        in red China, Party place little value on sanctity of life. No individual right exist.

        you have at least fighting chance as many member still take oath to preserve and protect individual right as define by Constitution and back with life.

        in red China, no chance.

        red China money that purchase Hollywood studio and many politician have even less respect for those they buy.

        you Ben Franklin say it well: Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain; and most fools do.”

        let not you heart be troubled.

        may God be with you.


    • volodya April 1, 2017 at 1:56 pm #

      Just to finish, the betrayal is multi-faceted. It encompasses the refusal to reform systems of health care that handsomely benefit a few to the great hurt of so many. How is it that under Obamacare, that shining example of enlightened mercy and compassion – sarcasm off – premiums are to the moon and profiteering rampant?

  74. janet April 1, 2017 at 2:02 pm #

    “the betrayal is multi-faceted. It encompasses the refusal to reform systems of health care”

    Yes, the betrayal of 24 million who will lose their health insurance because they voted for the slick schtick of a pathological liar… and I’m not referring to Hillary. She wanted to improve upon Obamacare, not repeal it. The people, as capt. spaulding says, get the government they deserve. Deplorable government voted for by the deplorables.

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    • DA April 1, 2017 at 2:57 pm #

      OK then, let’s forget about Hillary. WHY DIDN’T the Dems still in power under Obama – or for that matter, now – work harder to improve it? Short answer: because they were sure that Hillary would win, and they wouldn’t have to worry about it anymore, or at the very least they could piece meal together some minor, inconsequential changes, and call it a day.

      And don’t forget, “ObamaCare” WAS ALWAYS little more than “RomneyCare,” rebranded. Thus, in spite of all the hysterics at the time, it’s relatively easy passage. The Dems get a “win” (hooray for the Dems!), while the R’s get a faux “election issue” they can use forever and ever (Amen!), or until they return to power. But to absolutely NO ONE’s surprise (except apparently Trump’s), once the R’s got their bite of the apple after EIGHT LONG YEARS(!!!) of waiting, they come up with nothing. Zero. Nada. Zilch. Ever get the feeling that you’ve been played for a fool janet? I know I have.

      I actually admire your stubborn defense of your Queen HRC, janet (assuming you’re actually legitimate, and not a paid surrogate or merely a bot), but you simply MUST broaden your horizons a bit and stop mindlessly regurgitating Dem party bullshit verbatim. It’s totally ineffectual in advancing your cause, and actually quite demeaning to you as well.

      • janet April 1, 2017 at 3:43 pm #

        “It’s totally ineffectual in advancing your cause, and actually quite demeaning to you as well.” –DA

        My cause? What cause is that? As for demeaning, I have no pride of authorship so that’s a red herring as well.

        The poor working class deplorably ignorant ones volodya regularly exalts, those same ones who voted for Trump, are getting exactly what the deserve. If you think HRC was a bitch, try karma.

        • DA April 1, 2017 at 5:26 pm #

          I sense you’re on the retreat here janet, so I’ll let you off the hook. I hav

          • DA April 1, 2017 at 5:43 pm #

            Sorry, I inadvertently hit the wrong button, silly old me. But to continue:

            I have read enough of your posts to know that you’re at least a minimally thoughtful and caring human being (if extremely HYPER-RATIONAL), which makes me wonder how it is that you could have adopted such a completely malignant point of view?

            In my view, you merely need to admit your error, make some minor adjustments, and rejoin the human race again, if you will.

  75. FincaInTheMountains April 1, 2017 at 2:16 pm #

    Turns out that this obsession with cholesterol is bogus == outsider

    Best remedy against high cholesterol: My favourite New York ladies:

    Guys I have been associated with Manhattan, the central girl with Queens (Forest Hills), the right girl with Brooklyn about where the headquarters of Hillary Clinton are, and left one with the Southwest Bronx


    • DA April 1, 2017 at 3:38 pm #

      The “cholesterol myth” has mostly been discredited as yet another western healthcare myth foisted upon the gullible and overly affluent western baby boom generation. In short: high dietary cholesterol intake does not cause high blood cholesterol; high blood cholesterol DOES NOT cause increased coronary artery disease; and statin drugs do a poor job of lowering high blood cholesterol in most people and have SIGNIFICANT, mostly unreported, negative side affects, primarily in the liver, which unfortunately IS the center of activity for controlling blood sugar metabolism, which actually IS the problem in the first place.

      Shorter still: Coronary artery disease is increasingly ALMOST CERTAINLY a product of as yet still poorly understood disrupted liver and pancreatic metabolism pathways brought on by 1.) the increased substitution of cheap sugars for complex healthy fats in western diets, primarily through the reliance upon industrial food preparation methods, and 2.) the substitution of naturally occurring sugars in industrially prepared foods for their GMO equivalents, aka high fructose corn syrup and its variants.

      • aNanyMouse April 1, 2017 at 7:48 pm #

        Spot on, DA, on “the increased substitution of cheap sugars for complex healthy fats….”
        But it’s much worse than that. In recent years, we’ve seen “Diet Wars”, in which the nutritional Establishment has ferociously fought critics’ efforts to expose just how suspect were the NIH official guidelines were, based as they were on slender-reed evidence, first pushed by Ike’s pals Ancel Keys and Henry Luce.

        In recent decades, the Naderite “Center for Science in the Public Interest” has been pushing these, and related scams, e.g. transfats. And just last year, the CSPI has been outright McCarthyist in its efforts to sabotage honest debate on this stuff, see
        http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/apr/07/the-sugar-conspiracy-robert-lustig-john-yudkin ,
        http://www.nationalreview.com/article/433648/food-police-disinvite-meat-advocate-dc-conference , and
        http://www.bmj.com/content/351/bmj.h4962/rr-48 .

        • DA April 1, 2017 at 7:59 pm #

          SING IT brother/sister! The MORE YOU KNOW!

      • DA April 1, 2017 at 8:06 pm #

        Correction to the above: “2.) the substitution of naturally occurring sugars in industrially prepared foods for their GMO equivalents, aka high fructose corn syrup and its variants.” should read just the opposite; 2.) the substitution of high fructose corn syrup and its variants in industrially prepared foods for naturally occurring sugars.

        My bad. My advanced age dyslexia continues to assert itself. Thanks aNanyMouse for making that apparent to me!


      • Janos Skorenzy April 1, 2017 at 10:53 pm #

        You may have just saved my life. I tested high and he wants to put me on something – statins I assume.

        My philosophy of Race is devastatingly simple: Whites have equal rights and normal Whites take their own side. These two axioms fly right under the radar of the Ideologues and they can’t help but twist them and then call we who hold them, hypocrites. But they are. We simply want what the non-Whites want. That Liberals find this abhorrent is their own hypocrisy and their hidden desire to punish and destroy their own people.

    • FincaInTheMountains April 1, 2017 at 7:34 pm #

      These ladies seem hardly confused about their gender identity.

  76. FincaInTheMountains April 1, 2017 at 2:51 pm #

    Awful Russians continue their nasty pro-Trump propaganda – now the new lows have been reached – even animation from Soviet era is filled with Trump neuro-programming of innocent kids:

    Trump-pam-pam! Trump-pam-pam! Trump-pam-pam!


  77. FincaInTheMountains April 1, 2017 at 3:18 pm #

    George Stephanopoulos, as it turned out, interviewed not only Peskov – the Putin’s spokesman, but also The Dark One himself.

    And to the question of Stephanopoulos about the reasons why he agreed to give interviews to him and his channel, which is known for its rabid support for Hillary Clinton, Peskov said that they know about the suffering that George underwent while working for Hillary Clinton in the 1990s and giving away half of his salary to Her in 2000s, and also how he had secretly helped Trump, “inadvertently” rolling in “appropriate” questions during interviews in the course of election campaign.


  78. FincaInTheMountains April 1, 2017 at 3:36 pm #

    The U.S. military has been perilously close to “falling behind” and even being surpassed in military technology for how many decades now–since right around the end of WW2? == Buck

    Unfortunately, what most Americans still do not realize, is that the greatest strategic advantage of US geographical location – being essentially an Island Nation – now turns out to be its greatest strategic disadvantage due to a Sakharov Solution

  79. Buck Stud April 1, 2017 at 3:43 pm #

    Dear John,

    If we ask you to stay, will you promise to leave?


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  80. pequiste April 1, 2017 at 7:17 pm #

    “Statins are poison. I cannot prove it, but I’m convinced they gave me irreversible peripheral neuropathy.”


    Well DA, not only does it wreak havoc in the liver and nervous system as you point out, but another “benefit ” of the statins is their propensity to damage muscle tissue. How wonderful it was after being put on a statin for an elevated cholesterol level and within two months developed a terrible soreness in my arms. Consultation with the clinic yielded a concise “probable muscle soreness as a known side effect of the drug and irreversible destruction of the tissue is rare but possible …”) Ran the hell out of there cursing up a storm. Dumped the statins into my contaminated soil bin (petrochemicals, gas, insecticides for later disposal at the county hazardous waste facility.) Told the doctor, P.A. and my nice nurse not taking the shit any more.

    The famous Mayo CLinic lists the side effects of statins, including the splendid condition called rhabdomyolysis.


    Discovered that vigorous aerobic exercise every day – 30 minute treadmill at 85% maximum heart rate, not only fixes the cholesterol “problem” ( mine is now a consistent 180 – giving blood every two months gives reading and also a great way to change the fluids) but also, coupled with diet and supplements, can reverse diabetes. This was 12 years ago. Who would have thunk it?

    Yep, the fix is in and the Racketeers do not want people to know that sensible diet, good old fashioned exercise and nutrient supplements can fix a whole bunch of human medical issues.

    It’s nothing personal DA ( and the rest of you CFNers) it’s just business.

    • DA April 1, 2017 at 7:37 pm #

      Damn Peq, I think I might have inadvertently crossed swords with you somehow. Believe me when I say, I apologize for that, as I pretty much agree with everything you’ve said above. Peace out, and I’ll raise you a Jeff Lynne video to make things right! Strange Magic indeed!


      • DA April 1, 2017 at 7:51 pm #

        Fuck Jesus, the commercial leader is longer than the song! Let’s try this:


        • DA April 1, 2017 at 7:52 pm #

          MUCH better!

        • DA April 1, 2017 at 8:23 pm #

          That one’s dedicated to janet, that incorrigible “evil woman.” 🙂

      • pequiste April 1, 2017 at 10:15 pm #

        DA, I do not remember ever having any seriously negative or toxic CFN interactions with you. At least not anything like some of the major-league, anti-social exchanges that I’ve had with the likes of Janet/Asoka/Carol, Cold N. Holefield, or Dannyboy,

        So what ever it may have been you are thinking of, it is of no importance.

        We are here, after all, to bask in the concept of The Clusterfuck Planet; have a great read, a laugh, get pissed off, write a harangue, blow off some steam.

        And E.L.O.: a great band. “Don’t Bring Me Down” a fave!


        I will now have a nice scotch and drink to your good health. And after that another dram raised high to Jim Kunstler’s good health. And another drink and toast to the good health of the CFN.


    • onehunglo April 1, 2017 at 9:25 pm #

      pequiste, you very wise indeed.

      onehunglo wish it merely simple racketeering for handsome profit.

      eugenics is present being driven by red china in service to globalist agenda, and present globalist pharma, in combination with retail pharmacy and physician all play role, although many unwittingly.

      onehunglo play small role in adjuvants as previous discuss and repent every minute every day.

      be advise when medical community/government no longer offer choice in injection of inoculation, that final globalist call for implement population reduction.

      let not you heart be troubled,

      may God be with you.


  81. MrTibbs April 1, 2017 at 8:54 pm #

    Galt: when are you coming back to Atlanta??


    • MrTibbs April 2, 2017 at 9:04 pm #

      Thanks Galt.

      Procurement has secured all the construction materials, farm implements, seed, fertilizer, local labor, and armaments.

      Thanks for the guidance in the build out.


  82. thwack April 1, 2017 at 9:11 pm #

    After a 7 day fast with just water and a few pinches of salt; what would your blood test reveal?

    The reason I ask is because if you don’t start from some kind of baseline, how do you know what food to add and what to subtract?

    Especially James Brown?


    How much funk should you have in your blood stream in order to be a model citizen? (and at the same time crack them legs wide open and hit it with the shaft?)

  83. wm5135 April 1, 2017 at 9:26 pm #

    Thwack “How much funk should you have in your blood stream in order to be a model citizen? ”

    When you reach funk and jazzy groovedom you are just about there!

  84. DA April 1, 2017 at 9:31 pm #

    Words to the wise:

    Be careful where you’re walking
    You might step in something rough
    Be careful where you’re talking
    And saying all that stuff
    Take care when you are breathing
    Something’s funny in the air
    And somethings I’m not saying
    Bout what’s happening out there
    It’s inside out


    Just sayin’…

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    • thwack April 1, 2017 at 10:16 pm #

      what if the bell tolls for me?

      Can’t I axe me a question?

      Whom else is gonna do it?


      • DA April 1, 2017 at 10:24 pm #

        RELAX thwack.

    • DA April 1, 2017 at 10:23 pm #

      Nice use of the Byrds, who’ve I always loved. David Crosby and the whole 60’s thing didn’t turn out anything like they thought it would, but I’ll give them mad props for at least trying. The follow on video to yours might be even MORE insightful perhaps, and is another favorite of mine:


  85. pequiste April 1, 2017 at 10:45 pm #

    And another disgusting news tidbit regarding the Rackets:


    Shocking and sickening. The cure is no cure at all. Industrial strength mass child abuse if this is true.

    • onehunglo April 1, 2017 at 11:30 pm #

      It very much true and part of globalist eugenic program.

      “The more you know, the more you hurt;
      the more you understand, the more you suffer.”
      – Ecclesiastes 1:18

      onehunglo know personal time short and repent every minute every day for work done on adjuvant in support of globalist eugenic program.

      As you Martin Luther King say, “Everything we see is a shadow cast by that which we don’t see.”

      however, no reason to lose hope or despair.

      many good people across globe work diligent to expose what behind globalist curtain and build out wholesome life for their children. it not simple case of profit motive. it case of global population reduction for greater good, as define by globalist.

      you Caroll Quigley speak truth in his “tragedy and hope” book:

      let not you heart be troubled.

      may God be with you.


      • Q. Shtik April 2, 2017 at 12:36 am #

        know our Lord is a loving and forgiving God. – Galt


        Hey Galt, how do you reconcile your ‘belief’ with the atheism of your creator, Ayn Rand? …… or don’t you bother thinking about it?

        • KesaAnna April 2, 2017 at 12:54 am #

          The funny thing about Ayn Rand is how many of her essays would lead to theological conclusions , if not for her arresting that line of thought at a certain point, and electing not to continue further down that road.

        • KesaAnna April 2, 2017 at 1:10 am #

          For example ;

          “The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”

          Hooray ?

          If the human mind is the sole and only arbiter , then why not right and wrong, good and bad, justice, as only the result of the latest opinion poll , and how could it be otherwise?

        • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2017 at 3:17 pm #

          Galt isn’t much for conversation anymore than Tibbs. Everything is just a slam dunk – like a drunk on steroids.

  86. KesaAnna April 1, 2017 at 11:27 pm #

    ” Kesa,
    Putting people in cages is a recurring theme with your posts. ”

    Criminal rackets are a recurring theme of this blog.

    ” Permit me an observation;

    You studied law enforcement, ”

    in Russia, in Germany, finally in the U.S.

    Turned out the order didn’t matter.

    The institution is a specific type of organism, which develops in predictable ways , and manifests predictable behaviors and characteristics , regardless of individual culture , history , ideology, or form of government.

    ” You joined a department, ”

    Either —

    — I’m a lousy writer —funny thing is though, my best friend of seven years, to whom I routinely write rather long letters, for whom English is a third language, seems to have no trouble understanding what I write.

    — Or, obviously not , if you bothered to read even a modest portion of what I write here.

    ” You failed probation. ”

    ” Do you still beat your wife? ” , as the saying goes ?

    • KesaAnna April 2, 2017 at 12:48 am #

      Caveat ;

      if it is a case of the pot calling the kettle black, and I have completely misunderstood and misinterpreted your questions,

      Well, keep in mind that for 30 years I have been immersed in a world where questions, typically, are not questions , but interrogations.
      Where questions are not indicative of interest , but more often than not a digging for dirt for, more often than not, no real reason.

      • elysianfield April 2, 2017 at 11:55 am #

        Well, keep in mind that for 30 years I have been immersed in a world where questions, typically, are not questions , but interrogations.”

        My questions were not about indicting you, but rather trying to understand your mindset. If you were in the business, you would see, over time, the reason men are put in cages…no question as to why, but rather, why not?

        I have known hundreds of men in Law Enforcement…not one, Zero, could evince your arguments with a straight face. We might decry the situation, but all understand the need.

        Please do not think I was impugning your situation. You did not deny “beating your wife” ( It occurred to me that you could have spent time in the Administration of the system…not at street level…and this would partially explain your mindset)

        The cages are full…most of the men, and women, in them need to be there. EXPOSURE TO THOSE PEOPLE ON A CLINICAL LEVEL HAS LITTLE MERIT IN DEFINING THE ISSUES.

  87. janet April 2, 2017 at 1:58 am #

    “If you’ll forgive me for trying to categorize you…” –DA

    I think it is hilarious, but I am tiring of having to wade through the trolls, so I will be posting less. I forgive you.

    Perhaps you didn’t notice that I have already been categorized: I am supposedly frankiti, absolom, wpa, cold, asoka, janos, etc. and a host of other sock puppets I have never heard of…. I am supposedly a Jewish feminist, liberal, and I work at a university with a poster of Andrea Dworkin in my office. LOL!

    I am none of any of what you and others have categorized. I just made the mistake of wandering into a clusterfucked blog. I’m now wandering out.

  88. KesaAnna April 2, 2017 at 2:40 am #

    ” if not for her arresting that line of thought at a certain point, and electing not to continue further down that road. ”

    That is, deliberately and knowingly choosing not to bother thinking about it .

  89. FincaInTheMountains April 2, 2017 at 8:09 am #

    Unmasker in chief is unmasked

    and you won’t believe who that is!


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  90. FincaInTheMountains April 2, 2017 at 9:49 am #

    Tillerson: Dear NATO, you have 2 months left

    The EU acknowledged that it was underpaying its armies. In particular, Germany agreed to reach a 2% mark of GDP…. in 2024.

    And unlike Russian citizens, confident in spite of everything, that the EU loves Russia and is trying to start a war with Russia just because the US is shoving it in the back, Tillerson knows exactly who is shoving whom and why.

    And he does not like that the EU offers Ukraine to join the anti-Russian Union, and the US should as a result rearm its army and build an anti-missile defense of the continental US in the face of an acute financial and political crisis, with little hope of success.


    And the hopes that Russia will go for nuclear disarmament remain very fragile:


    You can not cheat twice in a row with the same trick.

  91. nsa April 2, 2017 at 10:05 am #

    This is a peak oil site, right? Take a look at the 10 year oil chart. A child of ten could discern a trend towards the lower right hand corner. The move to $50 has a “dead cat bounce” (pardon the cliche) look to it. Look for oil to revisit the $30 low of Feb. 2016 in the coming 6 to 9 months. Sell the 1000 barrel oil contract (CL on the NYMEX) but dedicate at least $10k (5X the $2k margin) to allow for an awkward entrance. Start to cover below $40 and be totally out at $35. If you prefer a fundamentalist approach, the commercial refineries are net short and the speculators net long….but they can stay that way for long periods. Always bear in mind there is someone on the other side of the bet, and there is very good chance they are smarter or luckier than you. Anyone actually betting based on the peak oil fraud would now be tapped out residing in a trailer in the desert somewhere, eating ramen and swilling ice house. All commodity trading is essentially jousting with the jooies……so no cry baby if they take your money away.

    • volodya April 2, 2017 at 2:07 pm #

      Also bear in mind that markets can stay irrational a lot longer than you can stay solvent.

      The way I look at it, the price of a commodity at any given time never reflects what economics text books say the price OUGHT to reflect. Rather, fold into your calculation dollops of lies, fraud, nonsense, baloney, hysteria, gloom, jubilation, sloth, stupidity, and a whole lot of asymmetry of information. Do you think the efficient market hypothesis holds water? I don’t.

      As far as this is being a peak oil site, maybe it is, but there’s a lot that goes on along the downward trajectory.

      • beantownbill. April 2, 2017 at 3:13 pm #

        So, in other words, the markets are based on emotion. Who woulda thunk?

        • volodya April 2, 2017 at 3:41 pm #

          And greed.

  92. FincaInTheMountains April 2, 2017 at 3:40 pm #

    General Flynn has a story to tell

    He wants to testify that I was right and Hillary in June overthrew Obama, and in December she tried to start a nuclear war, since this is the only thing that frees him from responsibility for violating the Logan’s act.

    But he wants to get guarantees beforehand that he will be given the opportunity to speak, and not to be shut up in the middle of a sentence, and so Trump, who in theory should be afraid of his testimony, supports him getting immunity, and Clintonoids are trying to deny him.

  93. volodya April 2, 2017 at 3:42 pm #

    Elysianfield and Janos, I think that there can be elements of both your definitions of ignorance.

    I think that in Janos’s view, ignorance means intentional disregard, in this case with respect to the interests of American workers in particular and the national interest in general, and not just a simple lack of knowledge.

    I think that, in the view of Elysianfield, ignorance involves apathy. In this case there was unconcern among the High Horse Left about American workers and so why spend time and energy on them and their problems?

    In the view of the Archdruid, and I concur with his view, there was also a large element of class bigotry such as when the High Horse Left uses the term “uneducated”. You see it all the time in High Horse journalism. Make no mistake, they mean “uneducated” in the most scathing and insulting terms, ignoring the issue that most of these “uneducated” are high school grads so how is it remotely possible that after thirteen years in classrooms they’re “uneducated”. But, no matter, this bigotry forms the basis for how you both define “ignorance”.

    And yeah, there’s interests at stake here. Money IOW.

  94. tucsonspur April 2, 2017 at 4:49 pm #

    Though unworthy of the names, the picadors and banderilleros are at the snorting bull relentlessly. Will he survive? If not, who will perform the descabello?


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    • FincaInTheMountains April 2, 2017 at 5:07 pm #

      I still fully expect that Trump will rein in the Federal Judiciary and Intelligence Agencies by late summer this year.

      If not, the Cold Civil War will inevitably enter the hot stage.

      • thwack April 2, 2017 at 6:07 pm #

        Bring it.

        There was a time when only black people were mad?

        • FincaInTheMountains April 2, 2017 at 6:24 pm #

          Apparently, too much time has passed when the last hot war was fought on the US territory.

          Since then the destructive power of weapons of war has multiplied greatly.

          God save the United States from another one.

      • tucsonspur April 2, 2017 at 6:10 pm #

        It’s a huge question, what will happen if Trump is unseated? What road will Pence take? The alt-right? The deplorables?

        Here’s more of trying to kill the bull:


  95. sprezzatura April 2, 2017 at 6:09 pm #

    If they are ever going to get national health care, there are three things Americans need to accept:

    1- Universal Health Care is expensive. Very.

    2- Everybody has to pay.

    3- The government has to run it.

    Unfortunately, because of your pathological distrust of the people running your government, it would appear this ain’t never gonna happen. Sad.

  96. Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2017 at 6:21 pm #


    Jews pretend to be White as in “My Fellow Whites” and then call for collective White suicide. And Bill asks me why I am such a prick!

    At least Bill never pulls shit like this. But he does think it’s fine that we’re going extinct. But to be fair, so does Da, Kdog, Ozone, etc

    • beantownbill. April 2, 2017 at 7:27 pm #

      Please define “White” for me, again, I forget. Really. Gee, I always thought I was white, but I guess not – according to you. If this is true, why am I so afraid to walk along Blue Hill Avenue at 3 a.m.? I must be paranoid.

      Hell, most American Blacks have white blood in varying amounts, so that means African-Americans are part white people. And if African-Americans originally were pure Black when they first came to the States as slaves, how did so many end up with White genes? Did they all rape white women? My, my, the poor slaveowners were so terrified of Blacks they mostly allowed them to do it. Seriously, no wonder so many Black men have raped white women – payback is a bitch, isn’t it?

      Realistically, “White” doesn’t have any practical meaning. All so-called races have so much mixed blood

      And I never said I’m fine with whites going extinct. I wouldn’t want that.

      I know

      • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2017 at 8:52 pm #

        So we already don’t exist? Nice! Thus we have no rights, unlike other groups.

        You obviously don’t object to my link and thus have no problem with Jews pretending to be White and then saying how horrible Whites are.

    • beantownbill. April 2, 2017 at 7:39 pm #

      I was going to ask how many 100% pure Whites are there in the world? 500 million? One billion? No matter how you cut it, Aryans are a small minority. From a world-wide perspective, now you ought to know how Jews feel.

      • thwack April 2, 2017 at 8:18 pm #

        I was going to ask how many 100% pure Whites are there in the world?


        The only way to answer that question is to admit that racism = white supremacy; because it all comes down to who has the muscle to ENFORCE their definition of “white.”

        In other words, “white” is a political construct. Every racist blog Ive participated in has always ended up in a “purity spiral” with the different European nationalities accusing each other of being less than white.

        That train is never late.

        This is why white people can never win a racial debate with me; they can’t define what a white person is because they refuse to admit that racism is white supremacy.

        And they better not?

        Because all it will do is cause conflict among white people.

        Here is an interview with a white South African where you can listen to him discuss the conflict between the British and the Boars.

        And guess what?

        It ain’t over.

        Hillary and Trump are just the latest manifestation of the same phenomenon; the Anglo VS the Teuton; which one is white?


        White supremacy is toxic because it always results in white people fighting each other (with one of them enlisting my help)

        If the race war ever goes hot; it will be another white person that kills Janos.

        Just sayin

        • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2017 at 9:02 pm #

          I admit it’s a fuzzy set but so are colors on the spectrum – they slowly become another color. But that doesn’t mean colors aren’t real. Nor does mean there isn’t a median – the reddest red of all, half way between purple and pink. And the median could also be specified by the wavelength of the light. Likewise, we could genetically describe the different races – and thus set a median and the parameters of what’s in and what’s out. Of course it’s somewhat arbitrary at the far ends of the spectrum.

          Likewise with Negroes? Australoids? Not Negro. Ethiopians and Somalis? Outliers.

          Of course you love the social arguments. Ok – many of these East African Outliers don’t think of themselves as Black. It’s an insult in fact. Ditto Central America. Each nation had its own definition of Black. I was once in a class where a pure blooded Negro girl said she wasn’t Black, but Latino. A conflation of race and culture obviously. Maybe her country encouraged that. She wouldn’t get away with it Mexico or in many other Latino countries.

          • thwack April 2, 2017 at 9:27 pm #

            Of course you love the social arguments.


            thats facts on the ground?

            I can’t go to Africa and collect a check telling Africans Im black?

            any more than,

            you can’t go to Eastern Europe and collect a check telling Europeans “hey man, Im white… let me spend the night at your house….?”

            I say the black man; at least the American black man is a “new thing?”

            Barack Obama…?

            WTF was that?

            (some shit you never saw coming LOL)

            Janos, if you want to bear the cross of trying to make racism “cool”; you are free to die on it. It just ain’t possible. Even my limited interaction with you on this site always leaves me wanting to wash the bitch off myself… sorry; it is what it is…

            The movement is lacking in this key component.

          • Janos Skorenzy April 3, 2017 at 12:17 am #

            I’m racist and you’re not? As if only Whites can be racist? C’mon, be real. You’re not this dumb.

  97. Q. Shtik April 2, 2017 at 7:58 pm #

    Galt and Roark revision 1.1 advances – Galt


    Is this revision 1.1 something that YOU made up?

  98. BackRowHeckler April 2, 2017 at 8:45 pm #

    Last week in Hartford a 15 year old kid was gunned down on the street. As you can imagine there was quite a lot of consternation, outrage and handwringing. A 17 year old neighbor was arrested for the crime. Well, something had to be done. The mayor called a meeting with all ‘community leaders’, Imams, pastors and radical priests (the only kind left in the city). It was billed, once again, as an ‘anti violence’ rally, but also as a ‘search for answers’.What’s more, local TV stations agreed to run the meeting, live. It started out pretty good, talking about the kid who got murdered (street gang member) and what could be done to prevent such occurrences in the future (more jobs, gun control, more black teachers and administrators) About half was thru the show I noticed some stirring on the podium, glances exchanged, nervous murmuring. Then the police chief and mayor bolted for the door: another gundown right around the corner. This time it was a Puerto Rican. The tragedy of it; in a drug deal gone bad this distinguished Hartford citizen brought his two young daughter along to witness his execution.

    Such is life in these nasty little American cities (once nice places)

    Over in New Britain, 8 miles south, anotha brotha shot up his family with a .22 cal. rifle and made his escape on the Governor’s $100 million per mile busway (10 miles)

    and down on the shoreline an illegal from Haiti stole a truck and led state police on a high speed chase in I 95, crashing into a light pole and killing himself, but nobody else, thank God.

    That’s how it is here now in the Constitution State, once known for its industry, inventiveness and Yankee thrift, now known for hard core Sanctuary Cities and Gambling Casinos.


    • Janos Skorenzy April 2, 2017 at 9:04 pm #

      And if you let in Blacks, the New Republic will just be a continuation of the Old.

      • Q. Shtik April 2, 2017 at 9:29 pm #



        What the eff does ^this^ sentence mean?

        Atheists created? or Foxholes created?

        Do you have a picture of a globalist designed foxhole?

      • MrTibbs April 2, 2017 at 9:31 pm #

        Janos, I’m black, native of Atlanta, veteran, former Delta Force.

        The Unity of Purpose is color blind in restoring the Constitutional republic.

        We are building out the sustainable means of food and water production 80 miles of Atlanta on 55 acres, and the means of defense of same.

        This is occurring simultaneously across the nation in what we refer to as the New Republic, and led by members from groups previously identified.

        Blue zones are under globalist control, and it’s predicted will fall to anarchy this summer.

        We have the red zones, and we are building out production.


        • Janos Skorenzy April 3, 2017 at 12:15 am #

          Race neutrality is pure globalism. You’ve been sucked into the French Revolution’s proto-Communist “Rights of Man” mentality. Real people are specific with a clear history and lineage. “Man” doesn’t exist.

          If you are really what you say, fine. But for every patriotic, race blind Black\, there are two dozen Thwacks.

        • thwack April 3, 2017 at 5:46 am #

          Whats wrong with thwack?

          Does he break your concentration?

    • Q. Shtik April 2, 2017 at 9:20 pm #

      “removed from the domestic means of production” – Galt


      You manage to work the above phrase into virtually all of your comments. Frankly, I’m not at all sure what you mean. Are you talking about, for example, those big yellow Caterpillar pieces of heavy duty earth moving equipment?

      Please define, with examples, what you mean by “the domestic means of production.”

  99. thwack April 2, 2017 at 9:35 pm #

    “Likewise, we could genetically describe the different races” — Janos


    OK, but what about white people who share genetic traits with black people (like they do today?)

    First and foremost; its white people who would distrust and REFUSE to take any test to establish their “whiteness.”

    And I don’t fucking blame them?

    IF the “Out of African” theory is true; if I dig long and hard enough into any white persons background, I’ll EVENTUALLY hit a nigger.

    Do you feel lucky?

    We’ll do ya punk?

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    • Q. Shtik April 2, 2017 at 9:57 pm #

      IF the “Out of African” theory is true; if I dig long and hard enough into any white persons background, I’ll EVENTUALLY hit a nigger. – Wack


      Maybe. I’ll let you know. My wife and I are planning to get our DNA tested later this year. I’ll report the results.

      • thwack April 2, 2017 at 10:21 pm #

        Nawh, fuck that…

        what is y’all blood type?



        Your DNA test will only link you to CURRENT populations. For example, the Aboriginal Australians and Tasmanians went from Africa to Tasmania.

        We need that 4th dimension>

        • Buck Stud April 2, 2017 at 10:35 pm #

          These guys recognize each other–must be their “red legs”:


        • elysianfield April 3, 2017 at 11:02 am #

          Yes, yes, we are all Negros now…so why do you hate us?

    • Janos Skorenzy April 3, 2017 at 1:26 am #

      All living things share some things, Thwack. We share 98.9% of the same genes as Chimps. The conclusion? A small difference at the level of genotype can mean a big difference at the level of phenotype (expression) and behavior.

      As you yourself have boasted, Blacks are very, very different than Whites. You like to see us as failed Blacks. I like to see Blacks as simply failed.

      • thwack April 3, 2017 at 5:57 am #

        “You like to see us as failed Blacks.”



        Janos cracks me up with his cartoonish paranoia

  100. Q. Shtik April 2, 2017 at 9:52 pm #

    Thanks Galt.

    Procurement has secured all the construction materials, farm implements, seed, fertilizer, local labor, and armaments.

    Thanks for the guidance in the build out. – Tibbs


    Tibbs and Galt,

    Ha ha, youz guys are funny…everything going according to plan huh?…Procurement Directorate is on top of everything…time to move the armaments into secure bunkers in the heartland and prepare for execution of stage 4v operations.

    • MrTibbs April 2, 2017 at 10:40 pm #


      “People are fleeing New York at an alarming rate.”

      …Alarming to who??, one may ask.

      ….to those unprepared for the approaching globalist directed blue zone anarchy.

      …and it’s even more dire if you’re located in a region with no Bill of Rights or you have not learned how to exercise them.

      as onehunglo has effectively communicated, many are lobsters comfortable in their warm pot, without knowing who controls the flame.

      They call me Mr. Tibbs.


      • BackRowHeckler April 3, 2017 at 1:02 am #

        I’m afraid there will be big trouble in the cities this summer Mr. Tibbs. I think its slated to begin on May Day, which is a Monday, so that last weekend in April. Big events are planned in NY, LA, DC and San Francisco. And I don’t mean dancing around the maypole, either.

        It might be prudent to avoid big cities from here on in. Most of them seem already dead anyway.


        • MrTibbs April 3, 2017 at 5:43 am #

          The summer goes hot, and it’s “baked into the cake.”
          …and here is the recipe:

          1. Add financial corruption at the top.
          2. Mix with mediocre minds at the bottom.
          3. Add an inept Congress.
          4. Mix with local law enforcement ignoring their corrupt elected Democratic mayors and disrupting “sanctuary city” status.
          5. Add with a politically motivated judiciary serving no justice.
          6. Mix with open borders.
          7. Add an inept National Education Association.
          8. Mix with an accelerating national public debt of greater than 20 trillion.
          9. Add with an accelerating ignorant section of the populace incapable of cognitive analysis.
          10. Mix with a hip-hop culture inculcating 2 generations.
          11. Add with red China purchasing Hollywood, mainstream media, and key political class members.
          12. Mix with Bilderberg globalists employing red China as the enforcement division.
          13. Add with forced inoculations containing toxic adjuvants,
          14. Mix with eugenics.
          15. Add with artificial intelligence displacing labor.
          16. Mix with accelerating ignorance, bigotry, and hatred.
          17. Add gender confusion poisoning children’s developing minds.
          18. Mix with wide scale pedophile rings and human sex trafficking.
          19. Bake in the June heat.
          20. Blue zone anarchy cake complete, starting July 1. Serves 100 million residents within the zone.


      • aibohphobia April 3, 2017 at 2:16 am #

        Another great post, and many great comments!
        I am an American working in Pharmacy, who moved to Canada 18 months ago (for non-political reasons). I paid $2500.00 a month post-tax for my family health plan. In Canada its the equivalent of about $100.00 a month. Its true there are long waits for care if not emergency, and not everything is covered but on the whole single-payer is working well for us.
        I make a lot less here than I did in the US, and the taxes are higher. But the decrease in my health care expenses and lower tax rate due to less income balances things out, so that I am actually able to save some money for the first time in years. The working conditions are better too–I get a meal break and bathroom breaks. These were not available in the US (if you doubt it, ask any chain retail pharmacist in the US if they actually get a sit down lunch or bathroom breaks).
        There are still problems–not enough doctors in rural areas for one–but by and large it is working pretty well…

        • thwack April 3, 2017 at 7:49 am #

          which bathroom do you use?

    • Buck Stud April 2, 2017 at 10:52 pm #


      You must have a computer out in the vineyard or a might dirty Iphone… from those very frequent moments when you need to take a cyber break from your joyful work?

  101. FincaInTheMountains April 3, 2017 at 5:06 am #

    BREAKING NEWS! Susan Rice requested unmasking of incoming Trump administration officials.


    Mike Cernovich has come out today to declare former “Obama” National Security Adviser Susan Rice as the one who gave the order to illegally “unmask” several members of the Trump transition team.

    Cernovich also indicated several members of the Mainstream Media knew of the illegal “Obama” spy program story and refused to cover it in order to protect “Obama”.


    It was Rice who was pushed out front and center during the Benghazi Massacre scandal. If Mr. Cernovich’s reporting is correct, it appears the Clinton Machine is about to use her as sacred victim yet again.

  102. themisanthrope April 9, 2017 at 7:51 am #

    With continual coverage for years of these crooks by everyone from the New York Times to Mother Jones to the Intercept to Clusterfuck Nation, what makes any of us think this scam is ever going to go away? Only by the grace of my unglamorous but decent job and those other crooks in the insurance industry, I am not dead. Otherwise, cancer would have taken me out a decade ago.


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