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H ow many of you brooding on the dreadful prospect of Hillary have chanced to survey what remains of Democratic Party (cough cough) leadership in the background of Her Royal Inevitableness? Nothing is the answer. Zip. Nobody. A vacuum. There is no Democratic Party anymore. There are no figures of gravitas anywhere to be found, no ideas really suited to the American prospect, nothing with the will to oppose the lumbering parasitic corporatocracy that is doing little more than cluttering up this moment in history while it sucks the last dregs of value from our society.

I say this as a lifelong registered Democrat but a completely disaffected one — who regards the Republican opposition as the mere errand boy of the above-named lumbering parasitic corporatocracy. Readers are surely chafing to insert that the Democrats have been no less errand boys (and girls) for the same disgusting zeitgeist, and they are surely correct in the case of Hillary, and indeed of the current President.

Readers are surely also chafing to insert that there is Bernie Sanders, climbing in the opinion polls, disdaining Wall Street money, denouncing the current disposition of things with the old union hall surliness we’ve grown to know and love. I’m grateful that Bernie is in the race, that he’s framing an argument against Ms. It’s My Turn. I just don’t happen to think that Bernie gets what the country — indeed what all of techno-industrial society — is really up against, namely a long emergency of economic contraction and collapse.

These circumstances require a very different agenda than just an I Dreamed I Saw Joe Hill redistributionist scheme. Lively as Bernie is, I don’t think he offers much beyond that, as if cadging a little more tax money out of WalMart, General Mills, and Exxon-Mobil will fix what is ailing this sad-ass polity. The heart of the matter is that our way of life has shot its wad and now we have to live very differently. Almost nobody wants to even try to think about this.

I hugely resent the fact that the Democratic Party puts its time and energy into the stupid sexual politics of the day when it should be working on issues such as re-localizing commercial economies (rebuilding Main Streets), reforming agriculture to avoid the total collapse of corporate-industrial farming, and fixing the passenger rail system so people will have some way to get around the country when happy Motoring dies (along with commercial aviation).

The “to do” list for rearranging the basic systems of daily life in America is long and loaded with opportunity. Every system that is retooled contains jobs and social roles for people who have been shut out of the economy for two generations. If we do everything we can to promote smaller-scaled local farming, there will be plenty of work for lesser-skilled people to do and get paid for. Saying goodbye to the tyranny of Big Box commerce would open up vast vocational opportunities in reconstructed local and regional networks of commerce, especially for young people interested in running their own business. We need to prepare for localized clinic-style medicine (in opposition to the continuing amalgamation and gigantization of hospitals, with its handmaidens of Big Pharma and the insurance rackets). The train system has got to be reborn as a true public utility. Just about every other civilized country is already demonstrating how that is done — it’s not that difficult and it would employ a lot of people at every level. That is what the agenda of a truly progressive political party should be at this moment in history.

That Democrats even tolerate the existence of evil entities like WalMart is an argument for ideological bankruptcy of the party. Democratic Presidents from Carter to Clinton to Obama could have used the Department of Justice and the existing anti-trust statutes to at least discourage the pernicious monopolization of commerce that Big Boxes represented. By the same token, President Obama could have used existing federal law to break up the banking oligarchy starting in 2009, not to mention backing legislation to more crisply define alleged corporate “personhood” in the wake of the ruinous “Citizens United” Supreme Court decision of 2010. They don’t even talk about it because Wall Street owns them.

So, you fellow disaffected Democrats — those of you who can’t go over to the other side, but feel you have no place in your country’s politics — look around and tell me who you see casting a shadow on the Democratic landscape. Nobody. Just tired, corrupt, devious old Hillary and her nemesis Bernie the Union Hall Champion out of a Pete Seeger marching song.

I’ve been saying for a while that this period of history resembles the 1850s in America in two big ways: 1) our society faces a crisis, and 2) the existing political parties are not up to the task of comprehending what society faces. In the 1850s it was the Whigs that dried up and blew away (virtually overnight), while the old Democratic party just entered a 75-year wilderness of irrelevancy. God help us if Trump-o-mania turns out to be the only alternative.

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574 Responses to “Potemkin Party”

  1. RobH July 27, 2015 at 9:43 am #

    You just have mixed bathrooms with individual stalls. Easy

    Having all together improves behaviour

    • Sticks-of-TNT July 27, 2015 at 9:48 am #

      Yeah, that’ll work.

    • Stardust July 27, 2015 at 12:06 pm #

      I agree. Let them all use the women’s BR. Safer for TG while we try to evolve to a more sane species.

      • Beryl of Oyl July 27, 2015 at 12:30 pm #

        Safer for tg, unsafe for women. Not all men in makeup are gay, and no way to determine if a guy walking into the ladies’ bathroom/changing room is ‘trans’ or just a garden variety perv. A young girl opens the door to a dressing room cubicle and oops, the man waiting across the aisle just forgot not to open the door to his while he’s naked.
        Way more people are women than are Caitlyn.

  2. Smoky Joe July 27, 2015 at 9:51 am #

    Unisex bathrooms exist in a lot of businesses. One person at a time goes in, and you knock before you enter. If you are in there, you lock the door!

    As for the “transgender moment,” It seems like such a diversion when, say, we will see Florida and much of Bangladesh go under water by the end of the century.

    Yes, I agree that only Collapse may lead to a sustainable way of life, but it’s a damned shame it takes that to get us to reform our institutions.

    • Neon Vincent July 27, 2015 at 10:00 am #

      “I agree that only Collapse may lead to a sustainable way of life, but it’s a damned shame it takes that to get us to reform our institutions.”

      I just showed my students “The End of Suburbia” last week, in which our host in 2003 addressed nearly all of the points about what kind of country the U.S. needs to be that you described today, plus a few more. One of them is that we eat a lot of oil, something that can’t go on forever. Relocalizing agriculture was something you predicted then. People have been making steps at the margin with gardening, organic farming, and the Eat Local movement, but the tide flowing in to consolidation hasn’t quite turned yet. Give it time. Students appreciated the movie, but were divided about the message. Some of them appreciated its bluntness and especially our host’s sense of humor. They particularly got a chuckle out of his swearing. Others were frightened by the doominess of the film. They didn’t care for it, but I don’t think they were supposed to. Fortunately for the effectiveness of the lesson, no one mentioned that oil prices were falling to the lowest levels since March. If they had, I would have told them it’s only temporary and we should be using the time of relatively cheap oil to prepare for the next price rise and shortage.

      • K-Dog July 27, 2015 at 11:11 am #

        Has anyone ever mentioned that the doomsday scenario suggested in ‘The End of Suburbia’ never happened on the schedule implied by the documentary only because fracking kept our gas flowing and the wolf from the door? That when fracking stops it is going to get very cold because we chose Peter to pay Paul?

    • marzo@cox.net July 27, 2015 at 10:44 am #

      and don’t forget the Hamptons, Maryland eastern shore…..and much more

    • Beryl of Oyl July 27, 2015 at 12:34 pm #

      One room, one person is fine. It’s the larger bathrooms and changing rooms such as in department stores and gyms, also schools, that would be the problem.

      • RobH July 28, 2015 at 6:41 am #

        Hi Beryl

        I think the idea is that the kind of main ‘room’ is shared, with maybe sinks, mirrors, baby changing what have you. The toilets come off that are individual with locks and floor to ceiling walls and doors

        The fact that you have a ‘mix’ in the shared part reduces the excesses of either. You know, mums can ‘glare’ at 7 year old boys to be good etc

        It works in parks and stores and places where there is a good mix of people

        In the high street, a row of individual pods works fine. I’ve seen that

        I find it very frustrating where nonsense gets whipped up in order to put people down – when really there is no problem. There is no problem in 2015 in providing a loo!

    • NorthernOutsider July 28, 2015 at 5:39 pm #

      Hell go to Japan – Unisex bathrooms in public and companies was the norm when I was teaching there in ’76. Took me quite by surprise 🙂

  3. dannyboy July 27, 2015 at 9:51 am #

    Draft Kunstler for President on the Clusterfuck Nation Party platform.

    • davidreese2 July 27, 2015 at 10:54 am #

      I’d vote for Kunstler in a heartbeat.

    • Lisa July 27, 2015 at 12:18 pm #

      An ex-democrat, count me in!

  4. Paulo July 27, 2015 at 9:54 am #

    You totally nailed it.

    When you have country steeped in ‘Exceptionalism’, and leaders constantly preaching, “everything is getting better”, there is little chance of new ideas growing and reinvigorating society.

    Maybe after a ‘big kick in the nuts’ collapse folks might start looking around for something new. And if a Dow collapse wipes out another generation of retirement hope I am afraid the dumb electorate will actually vote for Trump.

    The good thing? The rest of the world will really have a lot to laugh at. Can you actually imagine a Trump presidency? Hillary will be just another corrupt backroom facilitator, but Trump is just stupid enough to cause real trouble.

    Adolph had his moustache. Trump has his wolverine.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 2:33 pm #

      National Socialism was an enterprising mixture of public and private, and big and small. It not only worked, but worked fantastically. Even his enemies admired the economical miracle that he facilitated.

      • SqueakyRat July 27, 2015 at 10:04 pm #

        Yeah, those were the days.

      • FourFootSnake July 27, 2015 at 10:04 pm #

        And no white slaves died in the making of the movie..

    • outsider July 27, 2015 at 5:43 pm #

      Trump is doing us a big favor by blowing up our obsolete monopoly party system. The GOP needs to be blown to smithereens like the Whigs that Mr. Kunstler referenced. I love seeing Boehner, McConnell, and Graham (especially Graham) squeal like stuck pigs.

      • Frankiti July 27, 2015 at 5:58 pm #

        It’s exactly what he’s doing. He stuffing them in the crypt and sealing it shut as it should have been done after George Dumbya and Dr. Evil left office. McInsane with Pallbearer in ’08 was the last death throe.

        • messianicdruid July 28, 2015 at 12:37 pm #

          I think he’s doing another Perot maneuver.

  5. wpa--ccc July 27, 2015 at 10:04 am #

    “There are no figures of gravitas anywhere to be found, no ideas really suited to the American prospect…”


    There are many Democrats who are not corporatists, who are fighting for economic justice, who are fighting to preserve our civil rights, who promote global peace, and who are advancing environmental protection and energy independence.

    Examples are Raúl Grijalva, Keith Ellison, Mark Pocan, Shirley Jackson Lee, Alan Grayson, Luis Gutierrez, Jim McDermott, Maxine Waters, and many others.

    • K-Dog July 27, 2015 at 10:33 am #

      Good point, I’m a McDermott fan myself but I think Jim means figures of gravitas that people actually know about. Were I not in Washington state I’d probably not even know about Jim. Asking people if they know about anyone on your list would be like asking most people if they have ever heard about a blog called clusterfuck nation. What’s that?

      All most people consume is generic corn based mass media non-nutritious snack food which is sure to give them intellectual type-two diabetes over time.

    • Florida Power July 27, 2015 at 2:13 pm #

      You have got to be kidding. Gravitas? Not sure of all these but at least two will surely end up in the Clown Hall of Fame on the first ballot.

    • philm July 27, 2015 at 2:30 pm #

      Maxine Waters???? Please>


      She epitomizes the know nothing, head in the sand ” leadership” or lack of that JHK is so adept at lampooning.

    • mastman23 July 27, 2015 at 8:44 pm #

      Alan Grayson will one day be president he has all the right stuff and a pair of balls. The Democrat version of Trump

      • lsjogren July 29, 2015 at 1:59 am #

        Republicans are salivating over his candidacy for the Senate.

    • jgalt July 28, 2015 at 2:45 pm #

      Great. You apparently think only leftists, nee CPUSA, are the answer to our problems, not to mention throwing in the muslim convert, who is a real nutcase like too many of them. What a lineup of sleazy and corrupt individuals. Sort of a rogue’s gallery on steroids, and most, if not all, absolutely nuts. Great post wpa-ccc, you of another long-gone and forgotten era.

    • lsjogren July 29, 2015 at 1:12 am #

      The greatest leftist clowns of the Democratic party are our salvation? Perhaps you contend that they are so psychotic as to be lucid?

  6. Rodster July 27, 2015 at 10:08 am #

    Someone once wrote the following quip: “Don’t Vote It Only Encourages The Bastards”.

    Onto Jim’s post, there no longer is a right vs left, Red vs Blue party or Democrat vs Republican.

    We have had for the last several decades nothing more than Diet Coke vs Diet Pepsi.

  7. Sticks-of-TNT July 27, 2015 at 10:08 am #

    As a young Army lieutenant, I worked for a colonel who occasionally declared that “democracy was a system that insured the people got no better government than they deserved.”


    • SqueakyRat July 27, 2015 at 10:15 pm #

      Always great to hear of our officer corps’ dedication to government of, by, and for the people.

  8. newworld July 27, 2015 at 10:09 am #

    What pray tell did you expect when you put Jon Stewart as your lead intellectual, yes he is. All smirk and snark and in the back ground an Orwellian chant “racist, sexist, homophobe” yep that is some leadership alright.

    The Obama bubble will burst (sovereign debt) and I hope it is on his or President Clinton’s watch, then for you on the left you will get your chance for an all encompassing socialist welfare state with a Cuban sized per capita GDP. IMO we are headed to a state capitalist system even more centralized than the Trickle Down system in place under Obama, and its gonna really suck.

    • SteveO July 27, 2015 at 11:20 am #

      With the existing cadre of Democrats, I would expect them to follow the course Greer has been describing – more of the same failed policies, bail outs, cheap Fed funny money and hidden inflation, not a move toward socialism.

    • JMR July 27, 2015 at 11:42 am #

      “I hope it is on his or President Clinton’s watch” — Even if it is, the left will somehow find a way to blame Bush. It will never be Obama’s fault in their minds.

    • shotho July 27, 2015 at 1:59 pm #

      We already have a “state capitalistic system with an all encompassing socialist welfare system”. Contrary to the elitists who control the comments to this blog and, obviously, disdain the hoi-poloi polyglot that make up our citizenry, I believe it’s that hoi-poloi which controls the future. The powers that be will be eventually swept away, as usual, to be replaced by a new elite that promises the hoi-poloi what it wants. And what it wants will not be walkable cities, small farm plots and passenger trains, but guns and butter.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 2:48 pm #

        Exactly. Plutocracy offers the Socialism of the Brave New World.

      • FourFootSnake July 27, 2015 at 10:10 pm #

        Bill and Ted meet Death and it doesn’t turn out so well as the movie. Especially the Waterworld part.

    • Frankiti July 27, 2015 at 6:03 pm #

      Mr. Smug himself. Boy, pseudo-intellectual TV news on cable does make a great second act for failed comedians and actors. Bill Maher being another one (although his relentless assault on religion is admirable).

  9. izzy July 27, 2015 at 10:14 am #

    There’s still 15 months to go – maybe Caitlyn will step forward. The entire crisis in a nutshell.

    • outsider July 27, 2015 at 5:51 pm #

      I notice that (s)he’s already got a new reality series. Bet the ratings will be huge.

  10. miner_tom July 27, 2015 at 10:17 am #

    Been reading James K for several years now. It is the high point of my Monday.

    I disagree that anyone from any party can remove the delusion of big box living for Americans into the big forever. The economy is simply not bad enough for the great unwashed masses yet. They are still eating and flipping houses.

    Speaking of house flipping, the same type of advertising and commercials abound now as were visible before the last housing crash in 07. “Hate your job, learn my flipping method”. “Refinance before interest rates go up”. Has anyone noticed that even though middle income people have had no increase in “real” wages for a generation we are in yet another housing boom/bubble? Here in Northern California, it seems as if every third house is up for sale and the sign says “sale pending”. One can’t convince people to change their ways when they are making “ass-tons” of money with real estate and stocks.

    • LeoH July 27, 2015 at 10:58 am #

      The Anglo mindset is that money maketh the man, rugged individualist, Keynesian economics – why wait? Lets fuck up the planet while there is money to be made, let future generations hold the bag. This philosophy got them into world wars. Maybe the Chinese will change it one day but until then, happy democracy.

      • marzo@cox.net July 27, 2015 at 5:25 pm #

        money is an abstraction represented by a picture of it on paper, kind of like an absolute art form that doesn’t loose it value, kind of like a picture of gold, but without the gold itself in it.
        Now wouldn’t you be pissed if after making something of value someone would come along and say it isn’t worth anything?
        That may be the case with your art, but a nation like the US of A can produce something of value and call it whatever it may need to be named: money, BS, Jed Bush I Owe You, monopoly, numbers on a computer, and make as much as it needs to make for the health of its

        • SqueakyRat July 27, 2015 at 10:25 pm #

          Not being a jeweler or an electrician or a miser, I would accept gold in exchange for something of value only if I thought someone else would make a similar exchange with me. Just like with paper money, see!

    • Beryl of Oyl July 27, 2015 at 12:39 pm #

      Notice how much of local newspapers is given over to real estate advertising disguised as news. Everyone thinks she is a real estate expert today, due to the propaganda picked up in the media.
      I keep trying to tell people you can’t make your house “worth” significantly more than the other ones on the street by adding ‘amenities’ like granite countertops. Oh well.

      • Lawfish July 27, 2015 at 1:22 pm #

        What’s a newspaper?

        • FourFootSnake July 27, 2015 at 10:13 pm #

          What’s “news”?

          • SqueakyRat July 27, 2015 at 10:26 pm #

            What’s “paper”?

    • lsjogren July 29, 2015 at 1:51 am #

      Any politician who recognizes the truth and raises the appropriate alarms will become a laughingstock. So I don’t expect th a t from any of our political leaders. But they ought to at least have enough wisdom to be aware of the predicament we are in. And I see no evidence that any of them do. One might argue, who knows,maybe some politician out there does know the truth, but if they have the good sense to keep their mouth shut, how would we know? I would contend that if any politician had a clue, there would be subtle hints in some of their statements that would allow us to infer it.

  11. ozone July 27, 2015 at 10:18 am #

    I’m sorry to say that I emphatically agree with the entirety of this wake-up call to the boosters of the ossified and [fast becoming] obsolete. Clearly stated for maximum understanding.

    This is why I’m planning for and practicing (bit by bit) “to live very differently”, if only to provide the sketch of a base for those that come after and have to live with the consequences of our addictions, ambitions and obsessions. I have absolutely no faith in the current set-up and priorities.

    I think this section bears repeating:

    “The “to do” list for rearranging the basic systems of daily life in America is long and loaded with opportunity. Every system that is retooled contains jobs and social roles for people who have been shut out of the economy for two generations. If we do everything we can to promote smaller-scaled local farming, there will be plenty of work for lesser-skilled people to do and get paid for. Saying goodbye to the tyranny of Big Box commerce would open up vast vocational opportunities in reconstructed local and regional networks of commerce, especially for young people interested in running their own business. We need to prepare for localized clinic-style medicine (in opposition to the continuing amalgamation and gigantization of hospitals, with its handmaidens of Big Pharma and the insurance rackets). The train system has got to be reborn as a true public utility. Just about every other civilized country is already demonstrating how that is done — it’s not that difficult and it would employ a lot of people at every level. That is what the agenda of a truly progressive political party should be at this moment in history.”
    — JHK

    As I stated before, I agree with all of this. I would opine that those who would oppose these common-sense ‘modifications’, don’t really give too much of a shit about their fellow ‘folks’, and are strictly interested in being top-dog, whether that be ideologically or comfort-wise.

    Although there is plenty of hard work in these proposals, there is also a lot of *satisfaction* to be had in realizing them! I think this is a point that should not be neglected. I believe that a large factor in the general grumpiness of the masses is due to the fact that they’re not engaged in anything that could remotely be defined as meaningful or even useful. That’s important IMHO.

    • K-Dog July 27, 2015 at 10:44 am #

      “don’t really give too much of a shit about their fellow ‘folks’, and are strictly interested in being top-dog”

      Top dogs who want to lift their legs and mark everything as their own territory. In so doing they are dogs who are damming all the other mutts in this vast country to hell.

      • ozone July 27, 2015 at 10:50 am #

        Yessiree, you ‘barked’ it!

        • K-Dog July 27, 2015 at 11:04 am #

          Woof !

          • Beryl of Oyl July 27, 2015 at 12:45 pm #

            “Getting ahead” has come to mean getting some kind of advantage over your neighbors, and showing off. Living within your means is frowned upon.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 2:52 pm #

        Glad you said strictly. Even good and sincere people will still jockey for status and attractive mates. Men will always want beauty and women status and wealth. If women didn’t select for alpha qualities, then everything would very different.

        • Exscotticus July 28, 2015 at 3:30 pm #

          So… blame it all on women? Even as a generalization I don’t agree. Women also want attractive mates. Men also want status and wealth. The qualities that are desirable in a mate often mitigate or are mutually exclusive to other desirable qualities. Going for status and wealth, for example, often means sacrificing beauty. Hence we see a lot of attractive women with uncomely (but successful) men. We also see plenty of women making the opposite choice. I think it has more to do with circumstance than anything else. “Alpha qualities” are ultimately a series of double- and triple-constraints.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 2:28 pm #

            But would you at least admit that any utopianism is simply out to lunch on general principle? It’s a hangover from the Marxism which postulates we are born empty slates, mere reflections of the environment. So change the State and the economy, and voila – man is completely different.

            It’s no more intelligent than Bush’s attempted sleigh on hand that all problems would cease just by legalizing tens of millions of illegals.

            Women cease to advance by means of the other. They are very, very different than men in this regard. Sure they like good looks but as you admit – they will forgo them to get wealth. Equality is just a dream. It’s not my fault that this doesn’t make women look good. Tradition never said they were especially. Modernism is a conspiracy to glorify women at the expense of men, among its other nutty projects – see the first paragraph.

    • ozone July 27, 2015 at 6:09 pm #

      As usual, vladdie [presently known as “Janos”] has either mistaken or twisted my meaning to serve his own perversions. (I won’t call it a ‘philosophy’, because that gives it *far* too much undeserved legitimacy.) His obsessive plunking on his one-note nazi banjo is exactly what I was referring to concerning the lack of give-a-shit about our fellow humans.

      HOWEVER, I’ve said my piece/peace, and he can go on (and on and on and on and on) with *his* for the rest of the fucking week, as is usual. He well knows I meant exactly what I said and I’ll be on the lookout for his suicidal tribe of shitheads for the rest of my life. Meantime, I’ve got other concerns to occupy me.

      *OUT* muthafuckas… watch yer back.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 1:32 am #

        What exactly is wrong in what I said? Do you really think people are going to become perfect in the coming world? Were they perfect in the eras before this – the ancient or the medieval? So why would they be perfect after this? Explain if you can. Otherwise, I assume you just don’t like me.

        • hineshammer July 28, 2015 at 1:42 pm #

          That’s probably a safe assumption.

      • ozone July 30, 2015 at 9:18 am #

        As always, vladdie supplies us with Exhibit A by going off-world to “reply” to my comment. (I use the term ‘reply’ most advisedly, and in this case, in its most nebulous sense.)

        He’s gone to one of his favorite perversions/tangents: the re-codification of women as chattel or slaves if you will. (Their genetic impulses drive them to displace the rightful hegemony of men don’cha’know.) Provocative BS you say? Why sure, if he was being genuine. Now, if he were, think on it a moment. You’d be wasting a huge resource of talent (50% of the populace) by dint of resentment; I don’t think anybody wishes those who would disrespect them prosperity and long life. Also, were this a genuine sentiment, I would propose a strong element of sexual behavior of a kind that doesn’t bear thinking too closely about is being evidenced. Brrrrr, let’s hope its staying in the realm of fantasy.

        These misogynistic ‘serious insights’ have *nothing* to do with my comment or JHK’s missive, and are planted after my comment to distract thoughtfulness from either. Misdirection is the stock-in-trade of magicians and internet trolls….

        • Janos Skorenzy July 30, 2015 at 5:36 pm #

          Women are so busy having “careers” and competing with men that our birth rate is below replacement. Their main job is having and raising children – that’s by definition. And if they start young, then maybe they can have a career when the kids are a bit older – junior high age perhaps.

          But you want them to wait until they’re in their mid 30’s – desperate and perhaps unable to attract a man? And you call me unkind? Or is that you just haven’t thought it thru? And I know, some women don’t want this. Fine. But most do. Society should mold girls along the lines of the greatest happiness for the greatest number. The average in other words. The other ones will find their own way.

        • ozone July 31, 2015 at 8:11 am #

          …So he doubles-down by adding Exhibit B. (A further distractionary ‘response’ to himself.)
          Jeezuz wept, more pestilence than person.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 2, 2015 at 5:49 pm #

            You think there are going to be “careers” after the Fall? Women’s place will be in the home – as will be Man’s. You haven’t even read Mr Kunstler’s “Made by Hand” novels, have you?

          • ozone August 3, 2015 at 8:42 am #

            AGAIN, absolutely *nothing* to do with my comment and he gives new meaning to the term ‘self-referential’ by adding yet another layer to the onion of his distractionary stink bomb. What a perpetual, petulant pest.
            –Exhibit C, ladies and gentlemen.

  12. pequiste July 27, 2015 at 10:19 am #

    The Democrat and Republican parties are just the on-stage actors for the real “wire-pullers” and it doesn’t make a good God-damn who gets to play president.
    The Corporatocrat/Finance Capitalist system will continue in power irrespective who is “elected.”
    Entire nation states bow to their enormous power – just look at Greece as the latest example.
    Until such time as there is systemic upset – EMP attack; collapse of financial system; war with rogue state; then things will continue to slouch and slip to a civilizational condition that will be akin to Alzheimers disease.

    • SteveO July 27, 2015 at 11:29 am #

      Spot on.

      We have been given the illusion of choice for decades. The sheeple are much easier to manage/fleece when they think that choosing candidate red over candidate blue makes a difference.

      • outsider July 27, 2015 at 8:26 pm #

        SteveO – Love him, like him, dislike him, or hate him we do have a possible choice this time – The Donald himself. Much of his current popularity is fueled by the fact that most of us are fed up to our eyeballs with the current crop of losers governing us. If Trump spoke out in favor of the Iran deal and against the dangerous nonsense Washington is doing in Ukraine, he’d probably win in a walk. The neo-cons (and neo-libs) are destroying us.

        • messianicdruid July 28, 2015 at 12:51 pm #

          Do you remember whose 30% Perot stole?

    • Frankiti July 27, 2015 at 6:08 pm #

      Not only are voters dupes by participating, they actually believe that a politician will make things right. By the time the hoi-polloi are allowed to vote, the true powers have vetted and cleared the candidates. It’s akin to voting for Long Duck Dong or whoever the unopposed glorious leader is in N. Korea. Pointless.

      • Q. Shtik July 27, 2015 at 7:00 pm #

        It’s akin to voting for Long Duck Dong or whoever the unopposed glorious leader is in N. Korea.


        hahaha… good one.

    • toktomi July 27, 2015 at 6:56 pm #


      I’m not even going to attempt to speculate on what is up with this pied piper Potemkin Party post.

      I would speculate, however, that if ever it was possible to get a look into The Big Sack of Reality that American politics would not be found in there.

      The stories about politics would be much more entertaining and informative if they were based on the presumption that all the major roles are scripted which in my view they are.

  13. sprawlcapital July 27, 2015 at 10:20 am #

    One of your best ever, Jim.

    Bernie Sanders is supported by Democratic Socialists of America.

    Looking at the current issue of Democratic Left, the DSA newsletter, I get the impression that their program is mired in the politics of the 1930s–they do not have any concept of peak resources or industrial collapse. As Jim says, Joe Hill, he never died.

    Oh yes, and there’s this DL article: Paying a Price for Sexual Orientation. That’s mostly a distraction from dealing with the real changes in our society that are needed to survive collapse.

    Still, I.m glad Bernie is in the race.

    • Beryl of Oyl July 27, 2015 at 12:47 pm #

      I’m glad he’s there, too.
      Jenner getting an ESPY award was pure corporate advertising.

      • Lawfish July 27, 2015 at 1:25 pm #

        He could probably win the women’s decathlon now.

    • outsider July 27, 2015 at 8:40 pm #

      Whatever happened to republican turned democrat former senator Lincoln Chaffee? He has received little press, so most don’t know he is also an announced candidate. When he was in the Senate he was the only one from the GOP who voted against the Bush/Cheney insanity of invading Iraq over non-existent WMDs’. Guess how the then junior senator from New York voted?

      • SqueakyRat July 27, 2015 at 10:35 pm #

        Link Chafee is not a bad guy, but there’s nothing very special about him unless you view him against the background of the GOP. I have no idea why he is running for President.

        He lost his Senate seat to Sheldon Whitehouse, the former AG of Rhode Island, who I would much rather see in the race.

  14. K-Dog July 27, 2015 at 10:23 am #

    Concerning themselves with stupid sexual politics makes total sense when you consider the fact that there is no longer a difference between the corporate-centric Democratic party and those corporate-centric other guys. Without anything to really stand for, and having eshewed their progressive roots in favor of Wall Street money; trivial issues filled the Democratic vacuum.

    Many disaffected could have rallied around a Democratic party which had grand ideals. Instead they are pushed to be tolerant of sexual outliers which is foolish since hard core progressive types have been tolerant of sexual minorities for better than forty years now. Those who are not tolerant are beyond hope and they will vote for Jeb no matter what they are told. The two big American political parties have become just two big box choices of generic sameness. Perhaps it would help if the fine print on the generic choices were made larger so we knew which war the Democrats would start to enrich their corporate friends and which war those other guys would start to enrich their corporate friends.

    Then we could actually be choosing something.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 2:57 pm #

      You’re ignoring the tip of the spear and the cutting edge: sexual minorities are slated to be the New Elite in the Grievance Hierarchy. Even Blacks have to bow to them. For two reasons: such a thing will finish off Western Culture. And apparently some of the Elite actually believe in the ideal of the Divine Androgyne and seek to create Him/Her here on Earth – which is Blasphemy. Such creatures will be mere its.

      • SqueakyRat July 27, 2015 at 10:38 pm #

        Don’t leave out the foot in the door and the thin end of the wedge, Janos. Sheesh.

  15. pennohio July 27, 2015 at 10:24 am #

    I have been a fan of this blog for a long time. I figure it’s about time for me to throw in my “two cents” along with the others!

    I have been telling people that 2016 will be the “Year of the Woman”. Unless the Republicans come up with a female contender, Hilary will be our next President. There is no rhyme or reason to it. Just as the American voters wanted to try a Black President in 2008 (OK, he’s only half-Black), the voters want to try a woman. It’s too bad that the Republicans couldn’t get Condoleeza Rice to run. She’s Black and a woman! She definitely would have been a shoe-in!!!

    As far as America collapsing, I have come to view the United States as the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire morphed into the counties of Italy, Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, Britain, etc. It took a long time, but , slowly, the Roman Empire disappeared. I believe the United States will slowly fade into history. What we elvolve into is probably what has been posted on this blog through the years. The change will be so subtle that twenty, forty, sixty years from now, our way of like as it exists today will only be a memory or discussed in history books.

    • K-Dog July 27, 2015 at 10:59 am #

      I’d be interested to know why you think the change will be subtle. I don’t think it will be subtle except that most people won’t be comprehending what is happening around them.

      But that is not sublimity; that is more stupidity ignorance, and apathy than anything else. Collapse is happening on its own schedule yet at some point it must happen like a rotten tree crashing to the ground. We will then go over a Seneca cliff on a rapid road to ruin. Once the black blood of our culture stops coming out of the ground cheap enough to keep us alive, it is all going to be over. That will not be a subtle change.

      Add accelerated climate change to the mix and our fade will be far from slow.

      • Beryl of Oyl July 27, 2015 at 1:21 pm #

        Parts of our society have already collapsed, and we pretend not to notice.
        I’m thinking of Hamilton Hill in Schenectady, for one example. Obama literally flew over their heads on his way to meet with Jeffrey Imelt, and nobody said anything.

    • Jimmy Drinkwater July 27, 2015 at 1:42 pm #

      Good post and I tend to agree, after years watching this ocean liner of an empire cruising along, even if/when the engines shut down altogether, it might be years before it comes to full stop.

    • SqueakyRat July 27, 2015 at 10:41 pm #

      “Half-Black” is the dead giveaway of an American racist. There is no such thing as “half-Black” in America.

      • messianicdruid July 28, 2015 at 12:59 pm #

        Would saying the US will next elect a “half-woman” also be some type of dead give away?

      • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 2:40 pm #

        Mulattoes always identify with the Black half in this age of Black entitlement. If White Privilege is real, explain Dolzeal and Liz Warren?

    • seawolf77 July 29, 2015 at 9:54 am #

      I can see USA splitting into 6 distinct countries. In fact I believe the California drought will be the trigger for economic collapse, and the collapse will trigger the separation of the USA based on economic self interest. Splitting in 2 didn’t work. Splitting in 6 will seem inevitable. Imagine all California real estate becoming worthless and what that would do to the financial system i.e. the banks. No water means no living arrangement. That area was a desert before, and will be a desert again.

  16. orbit7er July 27, 2015 at 10:24 am #

    The Green Party has been championing the Green Transition – ie all of Mr Kunstler’s points – restored Green public transit, local non-industrial farming, an end to the endless Wars wasting 57% of the Federal budget costing $1 Trillion, consuming 6% of US oil usage and the biggest greenhouse emitter on the planet.
    Interesting that Kunstler did not mention the endless Wars although he has been quite clear about the absurdity of the Ukrainian debacle, the endless stirring up of violence and chaos in the Middle East etc.
    But stopping the endless Wars and the waste of $1 Trillion frees up enormous resources for rebuilding our Green public transit.
    Way back during Iraq War I under Bush I, I argued that the billions and trillions wasted trying to secure those oil resources would have better spent restoring Rail and we would not NEED all that oil!
    How true that was!
    Take a look at Jill Stein and the shadow Green cabinet…


    I will vote for Bernie Sanders in the primary but ultimately he and many old-line leftists are still fighting the battles of the FDR New Deal when the US had not reached Peak Oil, agriculture or the limits to growth looming today and simply had to pry money from the plutocrats for ordinary people.
    Naomi Klein has also made this point clear in her book “This Changes Everything” in which she points out the leftist illusion that electric cars and windmills will allow us to keep living our overconsuming hypersteroidal capitalist lifestyle:


    • davidreese2 July 27, 2015 at 11:00 am #

      I have looked at Jill Stein, and I have supported her.

      And I’ll vote for her, and be proud of my vote.

      But I am under no illusion that even a Candidate Stein will really change the system.

    • russ July 27, 2015 at 12:13 pm #

      Me too. I also voted for what was advertised as “change/hope” in 2008, and by 2012 realized I had voted for a heartless corporate fraud.

      (Somewhat ironic that a few days ago Oblahblah was explaining how the award given to Bill Cosby for his service as a great American of some kind of another could not be taken back. When I heard that, I thought ‘hey pal, expanding the war in Afghanistan, drones here, drones there, and who cares if we’re spying on you day and night with everything we’ve got – you want to think about giving back the Nobel Prize – or are you and Kissinger just going to do lunch?’)

      The moral of the story is unless some candidate says ‘I am going to break away from this mindless policy of endless, eternal, infinite growth’ – I will not vote for them. That’s why I also voted for Jill Stein in 2012, and intend to do so again in 2016 good Lord willing.

      The great fraud of our times is that somehow endless war creates jobs, which is what a Corporate Globalized Empire must have to survive and stay in power. Actually, aside from the blatant immorality of the whole thing, and the ruining of any shred of a Republic, the endless war thing, and its offspring of austerity, is now used as a wealth pump to suck out what’s left in the hands of the ‘wrong people’ – i.e., those who are not part of the CGE.

      These used to be viewed as citizens of the U.S. in times gone by. No more. Now they are as much fair game for exploiting as the ‘sand niggers’ of the Middle East and the displaced peasants in South America or Asia.

      A vote for either the R’s or the D’s at this point is a vote for extinction.

      I prefer to cast my vote elsewhere.

      • marzo@cox.net July 27, 2015 at 5:14 pm #

        I cast my vote every time i take a dump, and even that it don’t come easy

        • sprawlcapital July 31, 2015 at 7:02 pm #

          An excellent time to demonstrate the difference between “past” and “passed”.

          Marzo has fond memories of things past. Like the last time he cast a vote–to him it felt as if he had just passed a watermelon.

      • messianicdruid July 28, 2015 at 1:02 pm #

        Too little, too late.

  17. marzo@cox.net July 27, 2015 at 10:29 am #

    Let’s say you own a dollar printing press and the paper to print real authentic money, why in the world would you then create, along side your printing, a bank? A bank through which you funnel your printer treasure, a bank that will regulate how to spend that money a bank that subscribes to abstruse regulations based on out dated economic theories.
    We are no longer using the “gold standard” money now is numbers on a computer screen, why in the world printing money would become a debt, or create inflation. If that money is spent in this country in promoting local industry and job, how can that be bad. That if you insist in calling those money expenditures a “debt”, that debt is our richness.
    Our corporate economic monetary system is designed to keep the poor: poor, to keep us down, to make the rich richer, to be used for political gain to scare us with words like inflation, national debt.
    Someone needs to tell those A-hole in Washington that you don’t run a nation like a business.

  18. marzo@cox.net July 27, 2015 at 10:38 am #

    As far as Bernie “getting” the concept of “a long emergency of economic contraction and collapse”, well nobody is that smart, nobody gets everything, in particular Mich McConnell, is he high on magic mushroom all the time?
    It took me years to “get” what I’m getting now, and I feel surrounded by people that just don’t get it….that puts a damper on my “pursuit of happiness”

    • Beryl of Oyl July 27, 2015 at 12:55 pm #

      Bernie still believes we have 23 kinds of deodorant. Mr. Kunstler had a post about the increasing lack of consumer choices in this country, and readers gave examples.
      We try to avoid Proctor and Gamble anything, plus Unilever. You have to read the label over again every time you make a purchase. I wish we did have 23 kinds of deodorant.

      • marzo@cox.net July 27, 2015 at 5:11 pm #

        I would not know I don’t use deodorants.
        Information may not be what it seem to be

  19. Brabantian July 27, 2015 at 10:43 am #

    Jim Kunstler did not mention one prime Democratic star, Senator Elizabeth Warren, whom I think may be the feminine smiley face to take the Democratic party reins after Hillary Clinton’s implosion.

    Tho Warren is one of the wealthiest US Senators, she has done a good media job of seeming pro-populist, anti-corporate etc … tho she really is not.

    And it is clear the corporate media actually are setting up a fall for Hillary, pressing quite hard on her scandals … I think the fake US Presidential election of 2016 will be between Elizabeth Warren, fake anti-corporate populist, versus Rand Paul, fake ‘libertarian’ … and Warren will be anointed to be the smiling face of gender-friendly fascism for the last & final days of the US empire.

    • SteveO July 27, 2015 at 11:31 am #

      She stomped on Summers becoming Fed chair, that is a plus in my book.

    • Beryl of Oyl July 27, 2015 at 12:58 pm #

      I thought I saw two local anchors reporting a negative story about Hillary, and Anthony Weiner’s new job, in detail. I was shocked, but then I thought I must have imagined it.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 3:04 pm #

      She did take on TPP, getting very little recognition in the mainstream media.

      Her attempt to change her race is of course odious and grotesque in the extreme. But certainly she provided a valuable proof as to why White Privilege is a fraud.

    • outsider July 27, 2015 at 9:00 pm #

      Rand dug his own grave when he came out against the Obama/Kerry Iran deal. Now he’s just like the rest of the 16 or so clowns running on the GOP side. The anti-war libertarian right will never forgive him for that. He has lost what national base he had. If he wants to stay in government, he needs to drop out now and see if the good citizens of Kentucky will have him back for another term in the senate.

    • sprawlcapital July 27, 2015 at 11:43 pm #

      . . . whom I think may be . . .
      “I think” is called a parenthetical, so put it in parentheses and it immediately becomes clear that the subjective form, “who” should be used, not the objective, “whom”.

      . . . who (I think) may be . . .

  20. SW July 27, 2015 at 10:48 am #

    Amen. “History repeats itself, first as tragedy then as farce” – we’re most certainly in the farce cycle. 16 Republican nominees for president (each more ludicrous than the next), Hillary striking a pose as a champion of the Little People and of course poor old Bernie impotently railing against the obvious with no hope of changing anything. What will be next, I wonder? A horse nominated to the Senate?

    • davidreese2 July 27, 2015 at 11:32 am #

      As I recall, there was once a pig in Ohio who ran for a major elective office.

      The pig won!

    • russ July 27, 2015 at 12:22 pm #

      Well, Emperor Caligula appointed his horse to some high office in the Roman Empire. And we did have a Triple Crown winner this year for the first time in a long time. American Pharaoh, right? Catchy name for a high office.

      Can do. Can do. This guy says the horse can do…

      • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 3:05 pm #

        He also castrated a slave boy and then married him.

        • Dave in Pasadena July 27, 2015 at 5:40 pm #

          Nope. Nero.

        • Dave in Pasadena July 27, 2015 at 5:46 pm #

          The young freedman’s name was Sporus; he supposedly resembled Sabina, Nero’s deceased wife.

  21. davidreese2 July 27, 2015 at 10:51 am #

    Great blog, as always. What you write has never been truer.

    But all of this was evident years ago. Nothing has changed in the interim.

    Short of the Second Coming, I personally see no hope.

  22. Blessyourheart July 27, 2015 at 10:57 am #

    Ah….James needs to get with the times. The Republicans are now all cuckservatives. The working to middle class whites are beginning to hammer that point home all across the web

    a href https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/07/26/freelance-comment-of-the-week-the-craven-race-cucks/>Craven Cucks

    a hrefhttps://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/07/23/literal-cuckservatives/>Literal Cuckservatives

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 3:07 pm #

      All but Trump – and he may be a Neo Con deceiver who intends to protect the “borders” of Israel (which extend to Iran now) not America.

      • Blessyourheart July 27, 2015 at 3:19 pm #

        I can’t disagree Janos. Hbut I think he would be our netanyahoo if he somehow manages to pull this off. And iran may invite him over. Remember, although he has a coverted daughter and supports israel, it was jonathan stewart (libowitz) who defended Juan McAmestnesty from him

  23. Greg Knepp July 27, 2015 at 11:00 am #

    I think Donald Trump represents a reasonable alternative to the common rabble currently presented by the two parties. He’s actually pretty sharp.

    Several years ago he was interviewed by an irritating little woman (I forget her name) on NBC’s Today show. She asked him what he looked for in a business leader. His answer was short and sweet: “I look for someone who is smart.” She pressed him about other possible attributes such as loyalty, experience, honesty, ambition, etc., but he held fast “Above all he must be smart.”

    I well remember being impressed by his brevity as well as his insight.

    Trump is smart enough to know what will move the masses – and when. Knowing that ideologies are for idiots who can’t think on their feet, he adheres to no set ideology. Rather, he is able to assume those political positions that serve the moment, then discard them at will. He skillfully manipulates the media wings, and has hit a PR home run with his open contempt for political correctness. (Christ, were we ready for that!)

    It’s almost as though he has studied the work of H. L. Mencken and learned its practical application.

    • Beryl of Oyl July 27, 2015 at 1:09 pm #

      He’s a character, all right. I do like the non-PCness.
      I saw part of his tv show (sorry) where he gave considerable weight to the opinion of one of his higher-up employees as to the fitness of one of his favorite candidates, a very slim and attractive young woman. He was surprised, but he still listened to the contrary opinion. In hindsight, it is slightly reassuring.

    • hmulleril@att.net July 27, 2015 at 2:53 pm #

      You’re right Greg Knepp! We’ve had enough Wall Street puppets; it’s time for an up-town clown. I propose a bumper sticker: “Donald Trump: He’s What America Deserves!”

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 3:09 pm #

      Two good signs: on his TV show, he immediately fired someone who referred to himself as White Trash.

      He fought a long battle with his neighbors who demanded that he take down his enormous American Flag. Don’t know the outcome.

    • marzo@cox.net July 27, 2015 at 5:08 pm #

      I can’t wait to see legal tender with Trump face on it.

  24. marzo@cox.net July 27, 2015 at 11:05 am #

    why in the world would anyone borrow money when they (USofA) can print their own.
    Why would someone borrow its own money and call it a “debt” when more can be printed to replace what was borrowed.
    A nation can print an unlimited amount of money as long as that money goes toward the “good of the people”…. wars don’t fall into that category, nor do “London Bridges”…..additional corporate power, foreign dictators.
    19% or maybe 29% of our “national debt” comes from money “borrowed” by Congress from Social Security, that debt can be closed and forgiven, instead of scaring people with the idea that SS benefits maybe cut (if the wrong A-Hole gets elected). How would that stupid move improve folks purchasing/economic power if they have less money to spend?

    • malthuss July 27, 2015 at 11:14 am #

      The Government does not print money.
      The Federal Reserve is neither federal nor a reserve.

      Got It?

      • marzo@cox.net July 27, 2015 at 4:54 pm #

        I wonder where is to legal tender some of us carry in our pockets come from, magic?
        and yes I know the federal reserve is a bank, and that was my point as far as printing money is concerned that’s a figure of speech, also you are not saying anything…..
        when congress appropriates money that money is coming from the federal reserve….and who gives it to it?
        Let me guess China, martians, Japan.
        My point is why borrowing money, the US isn’t a common individual,
        forget about the concept of making money, then what? We don’t have it then we can’t produce wealth in those terms.
        I’m sure you can come up with an excuse why we can’t, then you are part of the problem.

      • marzo@cox.net July 27, 2015 at 6:15 pm #

        OK I get it now our legal tender is printed in China, if so wouldn’t be smart if we start doing it, have you heard of the Treasury?
        I tend to believe that you are subscribing to old ideas that aren’t in our national interest, something you did learn in school years ago when there was a gold standard.
        When economists speak nobody understand what they are talking about.
        Now please tell me who made those dollar bills you occasionally use

    • sprawlcapital July 27, 2015 at 5:09 pm #

      . . . SS benefits maybe [may be] cut . . .

  25. nsa July 27, 2015 at 11:13 am #

    The human wave invasion of undocumented democrats from the turd world guarantees a future closely resembling the present political structure of California, where no R holds statewide office. The last gasp of whitey in CA was the tenure of Pete Wilson and prop 187. Your future will not be a backyard garden and a few chickens…..it will be gang violence, suppressed blue collar wages, stifling taxation, crime, disease, squalor, degradation, expanding welfare, abysmal public everything. Drive through Los Angeles to get a peek of your future…..

    • malthuss July 27, 2015 at 11:15 am #

      What about if the dollar dies? Will things be much worse then your prediction?

    • shotho July 27, 2015 at 2:15 pm #

      In other words, exactly what we have now.

  26. malthuss July 27, 2015 at 11:17 am #

    Over at ‘Live Leak’ a 19 year old gets sentenced for murder and his family is unhappy. classic.

    A case study in black American ‘culture’;

    *Robbery & senseless murder
    *Outbursts of over talking
    *Gang signs and belittling at the victims family
    *Outrage at the court’s verdict
    *Hate towards the victim’s family and denial of fault

    Read more at http://www.liveleak.com


    • Beryl of Oyl July 27, 2015 at 1:14 pm #

      They seem to think the character of the victim matters. Which is exactly what people are screaming about on a national level. Maybe they are screaming at the wrong people.

  27. barbisbest July 27, 2015 at 11:21 am #

    marzo@cox.net July 27, 2015 at 10:38 am #

    ‘ It took me years to “get” what I’m getting now, and I feel surrounded by people that just don’t get it….that puts a damper on my “pursuit of happiness”

    I Hear ya marzo. It doesn’t make you very popular, does it. It’s hard to build friendships when you know what you know. I got an invite to my 30th high school reunion in small town, USA. Along with it was a little questionnaire about your life, the standard stuff, what’s your occupation,where’s the most interesting place you’ve been. (the answer would have been the climate rally in DC February 2013). But there was one that made me laugh.. What is your biggest fear? I laughed out loud. Oh you know, the small stuff, global catabolic collapse, catastrophic climate change. I decided not to go, even though the next one I may have hearing aides. Yes, that which is known, cannot be unknown. My cousin’s website has an interesting take on government in his most recent blogpost. He lives in Oklahoma City.

    Here’s his latest rant:The government is not our friend. All who invest in it will lose everything and then some. This indeed is the time to check the signs of the times, and note the dust of the approaching legions rising over the hills, and get the you-know-what out of Babylon-Dodge. By that I don’t mean a panic evacuation into the countryside, but rather cutting your emotional and mental ties to the rulers of this world and building new structures in the midst of the collapsing ruins of the old.

    Still, it’s difficult for us to find eachother, collapsetarians. Tried a personal ad in the local paper?!?! It’s sad, because as JHK has mentioned, those who thrive into the near future may find it beneficial to be in community. I think collapsetarians will just become recluses and watch the world ride off into the sunset, as it were. I don’t make it a habit to discuss what I know, it doesn’t make one very popular.

    • dannyboy July 27, 2015 at 11:39 am #

      When Kunstler writes things like: “The ‘to do’ list for rearranging the basic systems of daily life in America is long and loaded with opportunity.” he is not promoting doomerism. Doomers often do not create strong, healthy community. Doers do.

    • Grandma Jill July 27, 2015 at 10:55 pm #

      I hear you barbisbest. I’ve also been looking for other collapsetarians without much success. Get’s lonely without like-minded company.

      Grandma Jill

  28. Jamyang July 27, 2015 at 11:49 am #

    I sincerely appreciate all of the thoughtful commentary this Monday, as Jim has fired up the flock once again. Jill Stein and the Green agenda is the ideal, however I shall support Bernie Sanders as the real and the remotely possible. He is the best of the lot, and the chance of his ascendance to the Presidency exists. Although he may not “get it” all at this point, he seems to be the only viable candidate with the integrity, intelligence and open-mindedness to grok the situation. Pragmatically, the Sanders campaign would be well-advised to avoid mentioning peak oil, crass consumerism and the mandates of TLE until after he is elected.

  29. capt spaulding July 27, 2015 at 11:56 am #

    In many ways, it doesn’t matter who becomes president. The powers that be will still control our destinies. Nowadays, the facists and the government (same thing as far as I’m concerned), will work their influences while giving us the illusion that we have a choice in the affairs of our country. Most people here have figured out what is going on, but the problem is, there aren’t enough people in the know, to make a difference. Potemkin Village indeed. And the next election will just enforce the illusion. Great article, Mr. K.

    • shotho July 27, 2015 at 2:18 pm #

      The powers that be have always controlled our destiny – always have, always will.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 3:13 pm #

      No. Our Government is controlled by Banks and Corporations – that’s Plutocracy. When the Government controls or guides these, it’s Fascism. 180 degree difference.

  30. kansas ham on wry July 27, 2015 at 11:58 am #

    Jon Stewart as the left’s ‘lead intellectual?’ You’re the first I’ve come across who ‘put’ him in that role. His ‘smirk and snark’ is courtesy of the legitimate targets the knucklehead in both parties provide him. True, the Repugs get more attention than the Dums, but you can’t blame him for going after such low-hanging fruit. The text practically writes itself at times.

    And equating ‘Obama’ and ‘left’ is a mislabeling if ever there was one. And lets pre-emptively snatch away the same Repug talking point about Hillary – the fact that she spent her formative years as a ‘Goldwater Girl’ is all you need to know about her leanings. Obama is a stodgy corporocrat who has more in common with Republicanism circa 1970 than the socialistic, Kenyan, Muslim meme screeched ad nauseum on Fuxx News. He followed rather than led on gay marriage – his qualified support came long after the polls said the position was no longer toxic. His advocacy of the repellant Trans Pacific Partnership (which is the one place that he and the Repugs find common ground on), his coddling of Wall Street, his perpetuation of previous foreign misadventures as well as formenting additional ones (Ukraine and Iran if the AIPAC/Adelson/Netanyahu triumverate has its way) are all the sorts of things that provoked me to vote for an obscure 3rd party candidate in 2012. And Hillary is more of the same – in a skirt this time. At this late date in life, I finally decided that holding your nose and voting for the lesser of two evils is a failure of imagination.

    I think it disingenuous of the Repugs to decry the current monomaniacal focus on social issues like same-sex marriage and Caitlyn Jenner. They made such electoral hay by demagouging the topics for so long that it’s only fair the pendulum swings back and knocks them flat on their fat asses. Don’t get me wrong – the recognition of same sex marriage is long overdue. But I agree with JHK that this obsession is a sideshow from issues that have far more ultimate impact on our lives. We’re on the precipice of monumental, horrendous changes – crises in water availability, global warming, military adventurism and the economy. And a lot of people are going to miss it because they’re raptly staring at ‘I am Cait.’ (Well, they won’t miss it. But the look of surprise on their faces when the consequences hit them in the face like a nail studded 2×4 will be priceless). The presstitutes will gin up the distractions because they know us too well. They could program for the brain, but it’s more fun (and popular) to go for the gut or the groin. Cheese doodles and reality TV are the equivalent of the Roman bread and circuses. Here it is two thousand years later and we’re bamboozled by the same stupid irrelevancies.

    I don’t think it really matters who wins in 2016, be it Hillary or Jeb or the Donald or anybody else. There is such a fundamental disconnect from what needs to be done and what the politicians deem feasible that the entire rickety edifice is due for collapse. Think of it as Jenga-world. Pull out the wrong block (be it a countries debt repudiation that provokes a derivatives failure cascade or a small local conflict that erupts into a conflagration) and run for cover.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 3:15 pm #

      Stewart goes after the Democrats as much as the Republicans? I doubt it.

      • sprawlcapital July 27, 2015 at 5:17 pm #

        Fuxx News. Perfect! Much better than Faux News.

        • sprawlcapital July 27, 2015 at 5:20 pm #

          Sorry, Janos, for this misplaced comment–it should have gone one level higher.

      • kansas ham on wry July 27, 2015 at 6:15 pm #

        Never said he did. Reread the 4th sentence in paragraph one slower this time.

    • sprawlcapital July 27, 2015 at 5:23 pm #

      a countries [country’s] debt repudiation

  31. hmulleril@att.net July 27, 2015 at 11:59 am #

    Yes, there was a time when the Democratic Party was about helping working class families. Now it’s about celebrating Bruce Jenner getting his package chopped off.

    • outsider July 28, 2015 at 7:06 am #

      He’ll always be Bruce to me. Just as Chelsea Manning will always be Bradley (whom I consider to be a hero). I know it makes me a cantankerous old fart, but I revel in being anti-PC.

  32. Q. Shtik July 27, 2015 at 12:00 pm #

    why in the world printing money would ……. create inflation. – Marzo


    Marzo for the Nobel in Economics ………. NOT!

    • marzo@cox.net July 27, 2015 at 4:57 pm #

      Please read Modern Monetary Theories by Warren Mosler.
      You may understand what money in you pocket is, but you don’t understand what money is for a nation.
      But after all money is designed to make you miserable

      • Q. Shtik July 27, 2015 at 6:14 pm #

        I’ll see your Warren Mosler and up you the David Stockman Blog.

        Did you ever notice you can find famous economists whose views are 180 degrees apart?

        Mosler and Krugman I’m sure would enjoy chatting over a cool bottle of Avian.

        I have an MBA in Finance, Rutgers 1978 and I have my own opinions about what makes economic and common sense. Your ill-stated theories don’t.

        Google Weimar and Zimbabwe.

        • marzo@cox.net July 27, 2015 at 6:24 pm #

          that’s what I though, you learned those old out dated theories in school, long time ago, I’m sure they are working for you, but not for me.
          You believe in a system where you run a nation’s economy as a business.
          But you know darn well that it isn’t a business.
          The US have been “borrowing money” since the 1800s, why didn’t that activity stopped when the debt was only a couple of trillions, even Regan said that the debt isn’t an issue, now we’ll never be able to pay back our debt, our debt is our richness, and no one will mess with us.
          Plus our debt with China is only 8% of the total, the Chines will never want that back as long as we keep buying their products.

          • elysianfield July 27, 2015 at 7:17 pm #

            ” even Regan said that the debt isn’t an issue, now we’ll never be able to pay back our debt,”

            As I understand the macro-economic model, the national debt was never intended to be paid off by savings, surpluses, etc. The debt is mitigated, over years, by( ideally) a 3% inflation, year after year, coupled with GDP growth in the 3 to 5% range. Rickard says in his book “The Death of Money” that government borrowing (US treasuries) maintain a low interest rate due to the “appearance of stability and growth” that a nominal GDP in the 4 1/2 to 6% range provides. Inflation then narrows the spread between the Debt and the GDP over time.

            After WWII, the debt to GDP ratio, in the US, was 100%+…in 1970, that debt was in the 30% range…growth and an “insensible” inflation rate made that happen. With inflation and growth, everything works…when growth slows or stops, there are “issues”. The interest on the debt, which is usually paid with cheaper dollars, will rise, and therein lies the problem. This is why the FOMC buys billions of dollars in bonds on a daily basis…keeping the 10 year under 2%, if possible.

            My apologies to “Q” if this summary is flawed…San Jose State, you know.

          • messianicdruid July 28, 2015 at 2:17 pm #

            It may y”our” debt, it is not my debt.

    • marzo@cox.net July 27, 2015 at 5:04 pm #

      it would create inflation if we all as individual had the capability of printing money, but we don’t.
      The US of A can, call it what you will.
      If then someone says the the US of A can’t because that will cause inflation that bullshit, it’s an old idea intended to scare people.
      You can’t apply the same standards of economic behavior that you would apply to an individual to a nation.

  33. RocketDoc July 27, 2015 at 12:01 pm #

    As a disaffected Democrat from Alabama, here’s a loud Amen. I voted Obama in 2008 but had to go with cranky Ron Paul in 2012. He seemed to be the only one interested in honest money and less war. Last year I saw a small note in the paper about a meeting of the N Alabama Democratic party. I went. Oh my. Fifty people in a Hampton Inn Conference Room talking about how great Obama was. It was diverse but this was not a group that could challenge BAU. Republicans have defense department largesse to distribute, the Democrats seem to have the educational establishment but that is plugged into the old civil rights warhorses and racist that I try not to be, I hate wearing that sackcloth. The Rainbow coalition is a minefield of grievance and to say something as innocuous as we should enforce our immigration laws, brings the wrath of the multi-culturists. When it becomes obvious that the only people doing well are on the government teat (which all the private contractors are), perhaps some will reflect on the wisdom in this essay.

    • marzo@cox.net July 27, 2015 at 6:26 pm #

      Ron Paul doesn’t know squat about economy, like all doctors want to run the country like an ambulatory service.

      • messianicdruid July 28, 2015 at 2:23 pm #

        Everything he has said since 1988 has come to pass, so I suspect he knows a bit more than you give him credit for.

  34. barbisbest July 27, 2015 at 12:08 pm #

    dannyboy July 27, 2015 at 11:39 am #

    ‘When Kunstler writes things like: “The ‘to do’ list for rearranging the basic systems of daily life in America is long and loaded with opportunity.” he is not promoting doomerism. Doomers often do not create strong, healthy community. Doers do.’

    I get it danny boy. Thank you. I wasn’t promoting doomerism just a sort of realism, and I wanted to say to David Reese2, there is hope. The hope lies, oddly enough, in eachother. But, it may take a semi-collapse or something of that nature to be instructive. Given human nature though, and the current inability or unwillingness of the citizenry to face the changes that will be coming to us all, it does give one pause. In any case, I don’t think we’re in Kansas anymore.

    It’s interesting to note, that so I have learned with Alcoholics Anonymous, people who wish to enter the program usually have a sponsor to help them overcome the addiction. We may actually need one another to help us to overcome our current societal addictions. Like Peter Russell says in his book, “A Physicist’s Journey into the Mystery of Consciousness”, the work must start within, and then we may be able to gather what we really want from eachother.

    • dannyboy July 27, 2015 at 12:24 pm #


      Judging you from your Comment, I have to say that you will have no problem forming community with others-in-our-boat. I had regretted my Comment as too brief and thus too critical. But you got the larger meaning (that I forgot to write). Wow!

      And…I love Peter Russell! I have had no success getting Kunstler to factor in the effects of our change in consciousness. He tells me that was “60’s stuff” and didn’t change things. I just stopped trying to convince him, I figure the effects will be there whether any person believes or expects so.

    • stephen July 27, 2015 at 2:54 pm #


      I enjoyed your analogy of future society as something akin to an Alcoholics Anonymous program. We will need to work with each other to deal with the difficulties. Perhaps, using the AA model, those of us who have begun our recovery from the “Myth of Eternal Progress” could start a “Cornucopians Anonymous” program to help those who need mentoring.

      Community certainly helps. I live in a co-housing community, and my assessment of my neighbors awareness of peak oil issues and consequences is somewhere along the spectrum from “somewhat clueless” to “totally clueless”. They are good people, just absorbed in their own pursuits and dreams. No one wants to talk about the sorts of issues raised by this blog and all the other good peak oil blogs.

      My objective is to be a useful neighbor.

  35. neon sky July 27, 2015 at 12:10 pm #

    What about the nongendered? (There coming!) We’ll need separate bathrooms for them, too.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 3:21 pm #

      No, there are dozens of genders. If we go that route, buildings would be nothing but bathrooms. The Elite are trying to collapse the whole concept by blowing it up until it pops. The want to incarnate Adam Kadmon (the Divine Androgyne) here on Earth – which is blasphemy. All creation depends on polarity of one sort or another. On Earth, the higher creature are polarized into the two genders.

  36. barbisbest July 27, 2015 at 12:58 pm #

    dannyboy. You love Peter Russell? wow. He has authored some amazing work, studied under Stephen Hawking at Cambridge. A friend of mine dated him for quite some time. There could indeed be a shift in consciousness, or hopefully an elevation in consciousness. There was a sort of shift in consciousness, I believe in the 60’s, but it didn’t come to its’ fruition.

    • dannyboy July 27, 2015 at 1:26 pm #

      Your mention of “from Science to God: A Physicist’s Journey into the Mystery of Consciousness” prompted me to pull my copy from the shelf. Began rereading the later chapters. Good stuff.

      And, as to the attitudes developing during the 60’s, I believe those attitudes were forecasting what happened. That social movement was destroyed, so here we are.

      • barbisbest July 27, 2015 at 1:34 pm #

        yep, here we are! good way to put it,

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 3:26 pm #

      Emerson resigned his ministry saying souls are not saved in bundles. Yet you guys talk about charismatic movements. Worse, (since even they can be good. Read about the Great Awakening that helped bring on the Revolutionary War) you are devotees of reductionism. Read your Wilber. God is not a Proton, Neutron, Electron or Quark – nor any combination of these.

      The 60’s was a breakdown – engineered from the top. A few souls evolved but most fell into narcissism. You can’t see that because you hate the traditional White Christian Culture of America.

  37. barbisbest July 27, 2015 at 1:16 pm #

    dannyboy. Well, a friend of mine dated Peter Russell for quite some time, not Stephen Hawking. Doers do. I like that, and you too will do well young man. Me, I don’t know, my reluctant disciples.

    Remember, it was Albert Einstein who said “No problem can be solved by the same Consciousness that created it.” That may be one of my all time favorite quotes.

    • dannyboy July 27, 2015 at 5:32 pm #


      You will do well young woman, your perspective is correct. I understood that it was Peter Russell who dated your girlfriend (plus I saw A Brief History of Everything, so I’m current on Stephen Hawking’s love-life).

      Not-to-worry about “reluctant disciples”. As I mentioned, my thinking is that this shift is happening independent of anyone’s belief or expectation. Since we are all one, your changes changes everyone. And since we’re all different, it doesn’t matter if they even care.

      Love the Einstein quote. True that.

  38. Farnus July 27, 2015 at 1:20 pm #

    Political parties and their leadership aside, I find the average democrat voter just as disconnected as the average republican voter. To a person all the Democrats I know are climate ‘believers’, yet none extend their beliefs into personal behavior aside from whatever has been made convenient…like curbside recycling. I probably lost a longtime acquaintance (real, not facebook) a few weeks ago after he bought a new car with roughly 28 mpg highway. He was deriding climate deniers in an unrelated conversation and I asked why, after almost 30 years since the formation of the IPCC, and over 20 years since the Kyoto Protocol, is he buying such a car for what essentially amounts to a daily commute? In other words, the science has been around a long time. Way before he even had a driver’s license. Why doesn’t he act accordingly? He took it as a personal attack. To him, and all the Democrats I personally know, the whole climate debate is political, not personal. To suggest that someone, say, dry their clothes in the sun rather than burn coal to do the same places me squarely in the nutter camp.

    I understand and agree with much of my democrat acquaintance’s opposition to the republicans, but I am mystified in that these supposedly educated people so quickly place their trust in anyone-not-republican. I can point out any number of obvious shortcomings of the democrats in dealing with the real issues that confront us, but, to a person, they revert to “at least they aren’t republican”. Then it is back to cat videos and the upcoming football season. I say fuck the republicans, what are WE waiting for? But nobody wants to hear anything that isn’t, on a personal level, business as usual.

    I have had to self-segregate from most everyone (republican and democrat) who can’t have a normal conversation without jabbing at political opponents or advocating for supposed allies. Few will brook any dissent and I find the democrats the worse of the two. Their smug mockery of all opposition leaves them little to no room for honestly critiquing their own party or behavior.

    • Lawfish July 27, 2015 at 1:47 pm #

      Hit the nail on the head, Farnus! I have one facebook “friend” who repeatedly posts the ugliest, nastiest anti-Republican rants, filled with insults and indignation. His most recent post was a link to the fact that this year is going to be a big el Nino event and his comment was “Thanks, Repugs!” This Jake-leg actually believes Republicans are responsible for global warming.

      I don’t touch posts like that with a 10-foot pole, but I’d love to ask him if he’s still driving a car and using electricity. Because if he is, he’s responsible for global warming, not the Republicans. His kind are of the mind-set that being “enlightened” about global warming is sufficient. One need not actually change one’s behavior. If only we could get a Democrat in the White House (we have for the last 7 years, dummy), global warming would stop.

      It’s asinine. I do find it very difficult to have normal conversations any more. I told someone recently at a party that my wife and I got a solar clothes dryer. The interest was immediate and the friend just had to know what appliance it was. I told her it was a clothesline. What followed may have been the blankest stare I’ve ever seen.

      • Farnus July 27, 2015 at 2:02 pm #

        A solar clothes line. THAT is good.

        The fact that clothes dryers are now touted as Energy Star is, to me, a delicious irony. No one bats an eye. If nothing else, it is an excuse to buy a new one.

      • russ July 27, 2015 at 2:10 pm #

        We have some clothes lines strung up in our utility room. Yes, we use a washing machine. But I have not used the gas dryer for 3-4 years now. I’m usually in no hurry – the next morning I take the clothes down, fold them up and put them away.

        I’m debating if our next washing machine will be the big stirring stick and wash tub I saw some Australian fellow writing about a couple of years ago. His ” wash cycles” consist of taking a break when his arms get tired, having a beer, and then going back to work. Sounds civilized to me.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 3:29 pm #

      And they revel in the destruction of any White who has ever used the N word but are fine with the reviling of Whites as a race or as individuals. Also fine with Blacks and Brown doing the same.

      • outsider July 28, 2015 at 7:14 am #

        Now even wrestler Hulk Hogan has fallen to the PC crowd. Like Stalin’s purges, he has been erased from the WWE for saying that same word years ago. Doesn’t matter that he made millions for Vince McMahon and was his biggest drawing card for years.

  39. barbisbest July 27, 2015 at 1:30 pm #

    dannyboy – In Russells’ work he says spiritual teachings and scientific knowledge now share a common ground. This is a common pattern in paradigm shifts. The meeting of science and spirit is crucial, not just for a more fundamental understanding of the cosmos, but also for the future of our species. Today, more than ever we need a worldview that validates spiritual inquiry, for it is spiritual aridity of our times that lies behind so many of our crises.

    • russ July 27, 2015 at 1:53 pm #

      “…In Russells’ work he says spiritual teachings and scientific knowledge now share a common ground…”

      Very good observation – I saw much the same point made in an article by Lindsay Curren recently at the “Resilience” site. She was discussing her reaction to the June encyclical “Laudato Si'”. Ms Curren was happy to see a coming together of science and things of the spirit. She observed:

      “…With Pope Francis reintroducing love, and its partner in morality, to a conversation about how we live and move in relation to “our shared home,” in everything we use, make, consume; in how and why we work; in what we produce and its effects, he has created space for a radical resacralization of our earthly home, a resanctification of earth through the “prayer” of the “word,” of this encyclical. Indeed it is an invitation to re-ensoul creation and so see all creation in its fullness.

      I realize that such talk can prove cumbersome for nonbelievers. The place for reconciliation there, in my view, is that eco-believers and secular environmentalists want the same things — for the earth and her creatures, including us, to be treated with dignity, care, balance, devotion, and yes, even love. Getting religious people to that table, Christians especially, after many years where a hidden capitulation to capitalism, or at least it’s unchallenged state, has dominated culture, is in itself a liberating move, a sign of progress, and the freshest wind yet for a vastly troubled planet and her people…”

      • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 3:37 pm #

        More and more Catholics are realizing that Pope Francis isn’t even Christian much less a Catholic. He’s a Jesuit “Liberation Theology” style Marxist. Green is the new Red after all.

        I have no problem with ecology, but there is nothing ecological about filling Europe with Muslims and Black Africans and America with Central Americans and Mexicans. Yet Frank all in favor of this and more. He is a servant of the Deep Ones (Lovecraft) or the Powers of the Wickedness in High Places (St Paul).

        • Frankiti July 27, 2015 at 6:17 pm #

          Good… the decline of yet another crazy middle-eastern religion (and perhaps the most entrenched in the West) is overdue. Only when western man returns to the western heritage free from the mind-slaving middle eastern dogmas will perhaps his situation improve.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 1:46 am #

            Fine, but no Blacks allowed in Astatru. FUBU.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 3:33 pm #

      What is the common ground beyond investigation? The realms are different as is by necessity the methodology of investigation. One would like to say love of their subject, but some scientists now are just businessmen who want to make money.

  40. Beryl of Oyl July 27, 2015 at 1:35 pm #

    A very good post. It sums up very accurately and concisely a lot of what I think and feel about the current political situation. I too am grateful to Bernie, and to Donald as well, for rocking the boat. If it came down to a Jeb/Hillary matchup I would not bother to vote.
    Speaking of stupid sexual politics, what does anyone make of the story that the White House was involved with the Rolling Stone fake rape story before it was published?

  41. barbisbest July 27, 2015 at 2:08 pm #

    russ- thank you indeed for the acknowledgement of the acknowledgement!! I wanted to add for dannyboy, it’s interesting for me to note that, along that same line, Edgar Cayce, the most important psychic of the past century once said, “It’s thought and emotion that move the universe, not deeds.” and that, in effect may be true, because if you think about it, most deeds are backed up my emotion or thought. So, if there’s more love in the consciousness, that will be made manifest in deed, and the converse is true, you get the idea. In other words, like Grace Lee Boggs said, we have to start seeing with the heart as well as the eyes, our inner world and outer world.

    • barbisbest July 27, 2015 at 2:10 pm #

      I also wanted to say to dannyboy, perhaps it is he who should run from President of the United States, in this new millennia and JHK could be his adviser.

    • russ July 27, 2015 at 2:15 pm #

      Very good thoughts there, barbisbest. Didn’t the classic silent movie of years ago, “Metropolis” have as its recurring theme, “between the head and the hands. there must be the heart”. I believe so.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 6:02 pm #

      When you are in the garden, meditate on the tiny creatures for whom it is a jungle. And on how they struggle each day to survive against each other. Nature is red in tooth and claw, in pincer and in sting. The Horror, Barb, the Horror. Release from all this is in the Beyond and only the realization of THAT turns this charnel house into the very Garden of the Lord.

      Next time you find a dead animal, don’t throw it away. But rather watch it decay – if you can! If you can’t, then how close to nature are you really? As you may know, this is a traditional Buddhist exercise. Human bodies are best, but they are hard to come by and there’s laws against this kind of thing. But the days are coming when it may be possible to mediate on human bodies again since they will be everywhere.

      • Frankiti July 27, 2015 at 6:20 pm #

        You are only promised one thing upon taking your first breath; a last one. Everything else is just gravy.

      • barbisbest July 28, 2015 at 9:39 am #

        That’s really beautiful Janos. Unfortunately nature does give us some disgusting stuff, doesn’t it??!? There is the light, soul is light, but inside all too the dark side, the compost, correct.

      • barbisbest July 28, 2015 at 2:50 pm #

        -“But the days are coming when it may be possible to mediate on human bodies again since they will be everywhere.”

        JANOS – it may or may not happen that way. You’re not in charge Skorenzy. Neither am I. Nevertheless, my choicest blessings to you always.

  42. wpa--ccc July 27, 2015 at 2:09 pm #

    “it doesn’t make a good God-damn who gets to play president.” — pequiste

    I disagree. The executive cannot do a lot, but can make a difference.

    Take the example of solar energy:

    Carter: Put solar panels on top of the White House.

    Reagan: Took solar panels off the White House.

    Obama: Providing 300 MW of solar installations at federally subsidized housing.

    Obama is providing technical and financial assistance to subsidized housing operators looking to go green. The administration also says it’s leveraged $520 million in “independent commitments from philanthropic and impact investors, states, and cities” to boost solar energy among the low income community.

    “The executive actions and private sector commitments that we are announcing today will help continue to scale up solar for all Americans, including those who are renters, lack the startup capital to invest in solar, or do not have adequate information on how to transition to solar energy,” the White House said in a statement.

    The move to push solar panel on federally-subsidized housing comes less than one month after Obama unveiled “executive actions” to “make information about energy and climate programs … accessible and more understandable to the public, including to mission-driven investors.” Obama also ordered the IRS to issue guidance on how groups could invest in green energy.

    Obama’s latest orders also call for the creation of a “National Community Solar Partnership” to increase solar power access to low-income families that rent their homes or apartments and may not have enough rooftop space for a solar panel array. So-called “solar gardens” are a new way to finance solar panels across the country, but one that could increase costs and bring dubious benefits.


    It kind of does matter who is in the White House. For example, Bush got 4,000 USA soldiers killed in Iraq. Obama got all our soldiers out of Iraq.

    • pequiste July 28, 2015 at 1:14 am #

      Other than for “cosmetic” effect it does NOT matter who occupies the White House. As the head of State the president plays an important role as the emblem of the nation – the formal representative of the U.S. of A. A job ceremonial in nature.

      As the head of the currently configured government of the U.S. the president is merely a factotum for the evil bastards who really run the show.

      For example, the president can have the White House bathed in rainbow coloured lights to “celebrate” the high court’s ruling regarding same-sex marriage. He can even push to have the U.S. military establishment have “trans” persons serve openly. The media obligingly makes Caitlyn Jenner the most overexposed individual in the world for the next six to twelve months. He can meet with his relatives in Kenya and admonish that nation to embrace diversity or famously bow to the now-dead Saudi Arabian King Abdullah, on April 1, 2009 in London.

      What he cannot do is disregard his directives from the “wire-pullers” and enforce the border or have an immigration moratorium. He must bomb Libya and have some “problems” at the embassy; engage in challenging Russia on their borders with frolics in Ukraine and with NATO in the Baltic States. He cannot ignore those suggestions provided by his “advisors” that instruct him to keep things at the Federal Reserve and Wall Street humming smoothly including bail-outs and historically low interest rates. Budget deficits and trade deficits do not matter one iota. No Department of Justice probes into shenanigans on the money street were ever initiated by A.G. Holder were they? With alacrity he gets “fast track” trade deals (Trans-Pacific Partnership) that will ensure that the corporate masters get exactly what they want.

      Interestingly you bring up the issue of solar power and mention some paltry sum of $520 million to ” to boost solar energy among the low income community.” Listen: at anywhere from $95 million to (I’ve seen) $337 million dollars a copy for the F-35 and variants ( the latest joint service fighter program) that’s anywhere from 1 1/2 to 5 airplanes. In other words: a joke.

      That we haven’t, as a country or civilization, solved the energy problem with old, existing and most importantly CLEAN technology is beyond disheartening – IT IS DISGUSTING! ( ALmost as disgusting as Planned Parenthood’s selling of the unborn’s body parts.)

  43. volodya July 27, 2015 at 2:12 pm #

    I had a great time watching “progressive” Democrats spin Planned Parenthood’s selling aborted fetal body parts. No, no, this isn’t a profit maker, no this is just reimbursement of expenses. Sure, no problem.

    Know what? I suspect this is just self-serving bullshit. So, it’s all just about storage and handling charges? Seriously?

    Never mind the dreary debits and credits. Because, if you’re a true “progressive”, and you’re faced with this kind of depravity, you adopt a lofty, clinical expression. Like Eleanor Clift on McLaughlin Group. Did you see Eleanor? She said, yes, it sounded callous, yes, but see, that’s how medical professionals talk.

    Really? How about this: Blow me. That’s how non-medical professionals talk.

    I mean, I didn’t know that they even sold fetal body parts which is orders of magnitude even more repulsive. Did you? I admit it, I should have known better. Why am I so shocked?

    Know what? I think that those surreptitiously obtained videos did a great public service. They put the obscenity right in people’s faces. I know, “progressives” adopt the mantle of great intellectuals and pretend they’re all about nuance and multi-angled perspective. And that’s what they’ll play up.

    But there’s no ambiguity here. This is shit you’d expect from the worst hell-holes of Nazi Germany. Know what’s orders of magnitude even MORE repulsive? See, the abortionist turns the unborn baby to crush the extremities and crush the skull and leave the money parts intact. Gack! Mengele would go there to learn his craft.

    Without a shadow of a doubt, Democrats will man the ramparts. They’ll engage in mockery, they’ll minimize the ghastliness and they’ll parrot the talking points.

    As JHK might say of the Democrats, there’s no “there” there anymore. Or OTOH maybe there is, that being the vacuum-skull Kardashian Party, the Anything-Goes-Nothing-Matters Party, a degenerate vomitorium, all whoring, fucking and aborting. Yechhhh…

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 3:42 pm #

      Doctors also mock patients viciously during operations. Some have admitted as much. One guy recently woke up during an operation and heard some of it. He’s suing.

      I’ve noted a bit of this in ordinary dealing with them as well outside the operating room.

    • outsider July 28, 2015 at 1:31 pm #

      Volodya – I hope you get as worked up over the cutting of baby boys foreskins (circumcision) as you do about aborted fetal body parts. The foreskins are not thrown away, but many are sold to cosmetic companies at huge profit to the hospitals. They’re put into facial creams that are supposed to make women look younger. Oprah, for one, has used them and shilled for them.

      Circumcision is cosmetic surgery that is a violation of the child’s right to body integrity. The fetuses are dead when their body parts are taken. I’d say circumcision is worse.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 2:46 pm #

        And if you brought it up, people would dispute the dominance of Jews in the medical field – as they do in finance, advertising, media, foreign policy, etc. Complete Conditioning to not see the obvious.

        People have almost gotten into fist fights with doctors when they refuse circumcision for their sons.

  44. MisterDarling July 27, 2015 at 2:17 pm #

    Another fine post Mister Kunstler has left us. I’m just going to focus on those several passages I thought were particularly relevant.

    “…nothing with the will to oppose the lumbering parasitic corporatocracy that is doing little more than cluttering up this moment in history while it sucks the last dregs of value from our society.”-J H K.

    This is a not only fine prose, it efficiently encapsulates the zeitgeist [*]. The *ss-clowns responsible for the clutter don’t seem to get that they are, for the most part. Then there are those with sufficient Will and healthy regard for the structural integrity of their own organism to get it *well enough* – and take action… We’ll be seeing more of them in future episodes.

    “The “to do” list for rearranging the basic systems of daily life in America is long and loaded with opportunity. Every system that is retooled contains jobs and social roles for people who have been shut out of the economy for two generations.”-J H K.

    I do like it when JHK reminds the public that he is not some ‘apocalypto-phile’, that he’s making observations followed by feasibly easy actionable programs. He’s a ‘can-do’ person and these are ‘can-do’ action-items… Just not a particularly political achievable ones, that’s all. To *make* them politically achievable would require more than a change in political leadership, it would take a **soul transplant** and everybody knows how the devil get’s ‘his due’… Soon Enough. . . Ever seen ‘Angel Heart’?

    B T W, this happened:




    [*] As that term is popularly understood and used now.

    • volodya July 27, 2015 at 2:28 pm #

      I’ve read all kinds of stuff that the Chinese govt is supposedly doing to keep stock prices up. A plunge like that is sickening. But it makes me wonder if there wasn’t some kind of gov’t intervention that accounts for the rebound.

      • MisterDarling July 27, 2015 at 3:13 pm #

        Hello V!

        “A plunge like that is sickening.”-v.

        Yes, they have their “Plunge Protection Team” (PPT in the parlance of our times) just like we have ours, that’s clear… And about as effective, well actually a lot less since the global structure has been so drastically impaired by our PPT’s continual intervention.

        So… Don’t expect an ‘everything’s back to normal, it was all just a **big misunderstanding**’ at the end of all this.

        ‘Just sayin’…



    • MisterDarling July 27, 2015 at 3:16 pm #

      EDIT: (2) too many uses of ‘a’ in there.

  45. shabbaranks July 27, 2015 at 2:20 pm #

    When Hillary Clinton was on the board of directors of Wal Mart Corporation from 1986 to 1992, what did she do to stop the largest importer of Chinese-made goods into the United States from becoming so? The answer is nothing.

    In fact, her conduct was more egregious from the point of view of Democrats. In six years as a member of the Wal-Mart board of directors, Hillary Clinton remained silent as the world’s largest retailer waged a major campaign against labor unions seeking to represent store workers.

    Ms. Clinton stands for one thing: herself. The rest is window dressing.

    • volodya July 27, 2015 at 2:45 pm #

      Here’s the talking points: Wal-Mart brings sells affordable products to American consumers, Wal-Mart is a huge employer of Americans in places and at a time when jobs are scarce. Never mind the role that offshoring played in destroying the American middle class.

      Those will be the justifications. Hillary is of, by and for the Oligarchs including Wal-Mart. But mainly Hillary’s just hitching a ride on the Oligarchs.

      Because, you’re right, in the end, Hillary is for herself.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 3:45 pm #

        And by being for herself, she becomes the hero of every ugly, aging, soulless women in America and their eunuch male slaves. And they are legion. See how that works? Cannibals want Cannibal Kings.

  46. volodya July 27, 2015 at 2:22 pm #

    Personally, I’d be delighted if Bernie won the nomination. Imagine, Bernie vs the Oligarch Meat Puppet and Bernie wins.

    Wouldn’t it be something if he beat the Republican?

    I wish he wins the election just to see what he would do and say.

    Second best, Hillary implodes somewhere along the line, Joe Biden gets the nod, and Joe gets in the Big House.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 3:46 pm #

      Careful, he’s a Zionist. His leftism doesn’t get in the way of his support for Israel.

    • MisterDarling July 27, 2015 at 3:50 pm #

      Hello Vol’,

      regarding: “I wish he wins the election just to see what he would do and say.”-v.

      The problem with that is that JHK is not wrong when he states this:

      “These circumstances require a very different agenda than just an I Dreamed I Saw Joe Hill redistributionist scheme. Lively as Bernie is, I don’t think he offers much beyond that, as if cadging a little more tax money out of WalMart, General Mills, and Exxon-Mobil will fix what is ailing this sad-ass polity.

      Almost nobody on the on the roster of politically viable ‘players’ has a f*cking clue where they are, what time is, let alone what they’re up against… That’s what comes of spending 95% of a career with your face securely fastened between oligarchic butt-cheeks.

  47. MisterDarling July 27, 2015 at 2:40 pm #

    Regarding this:

    “…and fixing the passenger rail system so people will have some way to get around the country when happy Motoring dies (along with commercial aviation).”-J H K.

    There are a number of ways for this to occur besides ‘running out of oil’. We can Run Out of Road for instance – which is happening, as transportation infrastructure crumbles to dust – one of the telltale signs of a poorly managed empire. Or, we can Run Out of Money to keep the whole enterprise commercially viable – which is also happening… One of the side-effects of subtracting a middle-class from the picture.

    Having spent a lot of time negotiating my way across 3rd-World nations – one roadblock at a time – I can tell you that it doesn’t take much to make it ‘impassable’ to the least intrepid 80-percent of humanity, and once it’s at that level, it is for all intents and purposes *d o n e* as an amenable medium for ‘happy motoring’ or any other happy-go-lucky tramping around.

    The only reason that Central America’s roads stayed open well enough to link the region is because of the push and pull from ‘los Estados Unidos’… Which makes it funny that people think we’re going to become another Mexico. ‘Mexico’ and Central America as currently configured only exist when there’s a top-tier nation to lean against, ie. US.

    When the money’s gone, who would we lean on? China perhaps?

    B T W, this is still a thing:


    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 3:49 pm #

      Exactly. Those countries are even more dysfunctional than they apparently are. That’s just another reason to stop them from coming and destroying America by making it just like home. Because if we become like them, they’ll collapse entirely.

      I’m for keeping them out because I love myself and those like me. But since you don’t, you should want to keep them out because you love them.

      • MisterDarling July 27, 2015 at 4:09 pm #

        Oh, there you are! I was wondering when the ‘Two-Faced-One’ would intrude.

        Regarding: “I’m for keeping them out because I love myself and those like me. But since you don’t, you should want to keep them out because you love them.”-j.

        You’ve obviously got me confused with someone else again, and/or you weren’t paying attention when I went ’round with an immigrant Kiwi on the ‘immigration question’ months ago…

        Just for the record: I’m FOR strong borders and border protection. I believe mending fences is a great way to keep things ‘neighborly’ – it’s generally the best policy for both parties. It has nothing to do with loving or not loving ‘them’. I reject your framing of this issue.


        • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 5:22 pm #

          Why the quotation marks? You don’t believe “they” are a “them”? In other words, Mexicans are just as American as Americans are? Or as WPC and the Communist/Democrat hardcore would say, more because immigration is the essence of America? Thus the less American the more American?

          Defend yourself!

  48. fairguy July 27, 2015 at 3:52 pm #

    “…fixing the passenger rail system so people will have some way to get around the country when happy Motoring dies (along with commercial aviation).”

    I wholeheartedly support your prescriptions but think they would resonate with the general public if you stopped insisting that automotive travel and commercial aviation are about to come to an end.

    There may well be a sensible contraction in them, for example if the price of fuel goes up to the point whereby people think twice before taking unnecessary trips to cart their kids around instead of having them walk or take a bike to after-school activities. Or, if businesses invest more in video conferencing and cut down on the necessity of business travel.

    But to predict that the fuel based economy is about to come to an abrupt end over the next few decades, is simply not a credible argument.

    • Lawfish July 27, 2015 at 4:07 pm #

      Isn’t that why he called it the Long Emergency?

  49. Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 3:56 pm #

    Moses reminds those who ignore the Laws of the Lord, “You will become a horror, a byword, an object lesson to all the peoples amongst whom the Lord disperses you.”

    Whites, both European and American, have forgotten the most basic law of Life: love of your own. Thus they are destined to be spewed out of the land – all of them. White Men, whose place is naturally at the top, are now being delegated to last place in their own former countries. The Unnatural is what the Democrats deem virtuous. And Republicans go along with it because they don’t care or because they also profit from our displacement.

    • K-Dog July 28, 2015 at 2:52 am #

      Absalom, Absalom!

      • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 2:47 pm #

        Bad dog? No, just silly.

        • K-Dog July 28, 2015 at 4:32 pm #

          Not silly. You said it yourself, the basic law of life has been forgotten. So deny your heritage, put on a Tu-Tu, and ask for your own bathroom. When sons deny the legacy of their fathers bad shit happens. So Absalom Absalom, your decendants will be rootless and they shall embrace what you fear. That they will be mixed goes without saying.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 2:42 am #

            Oh Ok. That makes sense. I thought you were just playing with the phrase in mocking jest. Maybe you were and now you switched in order to throw me? If so, point Kdog.

  50. Evan July 27, 2015 at 4:10 pm #

    Jim, thanks for another great column.

    I haven’t commented much here before, but I have to add the following several cents worth.

    In terms of converging catastrophes, it seems if we are listening, we can hear that climate change has moved on quite a bit, from the distant rumbling of the hockey sticks and Inconvenient Truths of the Clinton administration, to resounding and increasingly frequent thunderclaps: Ever-increasing record global temperatures and local heat waves. Blowing, at accelerating rate, through 400 ppm CO2. Collapse of temperate and tropical latitude glaciers and snowpacks. Spreading drought and exhaustion of aquifers. Collapse of Arctic sea ice. Exponentially accelerating melt of Greenland ice, and Antarctic ice shelfs. Still slow, but exponentially increasing sea level rise. Super-hurricanes and super-el Nino. Unprecedented Arctic fires, and temperatures. Increasingly threatened triggering of runaway positive feedbacks such as polar albedo change, thermohaline circulation shutdown, ocean heating and acidification, permafrost melt, and firing of the Arctic Ocean “clathrate gun.”

    The Repugs wallow in their unanimous, obligatory denial. The Dems weakly acknowledge a problem, but display little or no actual recognition of its growing, and increasingly inevitable consequences. Meanwhile, both parties continue to collect their corporate contributions, perhaps hoping to buy seats on some future imaginary lifeboat.

    But wait – there’s good news! Hillary plans tax incentives for more solar power! But stopping “Clean Coal” and big oil now would threaten the economy, so it’s off the table. She obviously paid no attention to VP Gore, when she lived in the White House. Bernie goes marginally further: He wants to tax carbon, insulate houses, and promote solar, but it’s not his biggest priority. Yeah, that’ll fix it! Maybe in the 1980s.

    What about keeping what’s left of the oil and coal and gas in the ground, starting with now? What about dumping personal automobiles and long-distance trucking, and shutting down air travel, and restoring some rational alternatives? What about cutting stupendously wasteful and dangerous military carbon emissions? What about exposing and ending the fraud about impossible carbon capture and storage? Blasphemies such as these can hardly be uttered in any polite conversation, let alone a US political campaign.

    What about vocally recognizing the scientifically based facts that continued civilization, and the future existence of many or most living species (quite possibly including our own children and grandchildren) are at stake here, largely depending on what we do, as a single species, in the next decade or so?

    Can any party or candidate talk about the real risks we face right now from climate forcing, positive feedbacks, and global heating, and the desperate need for commensurate, globally coordinated plans?

    Republicans vs Democrats. Diet Coke vs Diet Pepsi, indeed. They are the parties of ecocide, and very possibly extinction.

    • elysianfield July 27, 2015 at 7:45 pm #

      “What about vocally recognizing the scientifically based facts that continued civilization, and the future existence of many or most living species (quite possibly including our own children and grandchildren) are at stake here, largely depending on what we do, as a single species, in the next decade or so? ”

      Vocally recognizing? Vocally? How many children or adults have to die crossing an intersection before the local council will install a stop sign and cross walks? This is the political reality writ small.

      • Evan July 27, 2015 at 9:45 pm #

        Well, my definition of”vocally recognizing” would include some combination of jumping up and down, questioning other candidates and incumbents, having a detailed policy, showing graphs, statistics and photographs, quoting scientific studies, and generally talking or yelling about catastrophic global heating at every single campaign event, speech, interview, debate and TV appearance.

    • K-Dog July 28, 2015 at 2:56 am #

      Can any party or candidate talk about the real risks we face right now from climate forcing, positive feedbacks, and global heating, and the desperate need for commensurate, globally coordinated plans?

      NO! Because the sad truth is most people don’t care. But as for me.

      I feel your pain.

    • wholy1 July 28, 2015 at 5:35 pm #

      So, is it your “opinion/conclusion” that “global warming” – now revised to be “climate change” – is, in a significant portion, “anthropogenic”?
      Even if “global warming” is occurring and being mask by more radical temp/weather events, what REAL empirical data is available validate the human intervention?

      • sauerkraut July 29, 2015 at 1:39 am #

        Just to set the record straight, it was George III of Washington who rebranded “global warming” as “climate change”, not some commie scientists who eat Jewish children on Newton’s birthday.

        You ask for data. But before you can understand data, you need to understand how modern science works. Freebie follows.

        First, you collect data. This allows you to generalize from the specific data points until you infer an effect, which gives a framework for future data collection and interpretation. Extensive revision and elaboration is done at this stage. This from a statistics prof, “There are no facts without theories.”

        An example of an unambiguous effect, which is challenged by no-one with his mind intact, is global warming. An example of the revision and elaboration is that the seminal paper called for more research to check whether or not the planet was cooling – it wasn’t – and the self-correction mechanism that is science soon produced the realization that the planet was warming, and at an alarming rate.

        Second, you find plausible mechanisms for the effect: orbital variation, solar variation, orbit of the sun in the galaxy, CO2, vulcanism, etc. These are analyzed first by standard statistical tools such as multiple regression, and the least promising are discarded (e.g. the “explanations” popularized by those with a few billion to gain by obscuring the problem).

        These standard techniques have their limitations, however, and are replaced by custom-designed statistical tools to analyze specific problems. These are called computer models or simulations, which is something of a misnomer; they are really highly sophisticated statistical methods which are integrated into the known science (e.g. atmospheric physics).

        These computer models are then loaded with a random distribution of plausible initial values, and are run to see which explain the data the best. Those which are most successful at explaining the data are then allowed to extrapolate into the future, and predict future observations.

        Key among these plausible initial values are concentrations and emissions of carbon dioxide. Without CO2, the models will not work. More specifically, without CO2 from emissions, the models will not work.

        The conclusion is quite simple: CO2 from emissions is the driver of global warming. The chain of reasoning proceeds from
        (1) an agreed effect (global warming)
        (2) a plausible mechanism (CO2 emissions)
        (3) a high degree of correlation between (1) and (2).

        End of freebie.

        • ozone July 29, 2015 at 8:47 am #

          Thanks (again). It’s hard for me to fathom that this phenomena is still denied. I guess it’s a matter of wishful thinking in the negative. “I don’t want it to be… so it isn’t.”

          I’ve always found that it’s most helpful to acknowledge a predicament, then move on to finding a way to deal with/live with it.
          The wheel is already in spin, so the only question is: will it be the cause of our extinction, or just a really gi-normous ‘inconvenience’ that eventually leads to the death of large piles of ‘folks’? To tangentially relate this to JHK’s missive, it’s quite obvious that our ‘leaders’ are in thrall to interests that would rather this phenomena be ignored/denied. Therefore, we can’t depend on them to do jack shit about it. This is a job for the gray and black economy, insuring that results will be spotty, but, oh well, it is what it is.

          I would suggest that while there exists some technological wherewithal (via resource extraction), it be applied to mitigating just this problem.
          For the record, I don’t believe that there is a ‘fix’/’reversal’ for a predicament of this size and scope, so perhaps we’d better get busy finding a way to live with it for the sake of a future generation. Now *there’s* a legacy worth the name. Keep in mind the Einstein quote posted earlier.

  51. capt spaulding July 27, 2015 at 4:21 pm #

    There was a comedian in the fifties & sixties named Mort Sahl. At the time, he was a very topical guy. I remember at the beginning of one of his acts, he said “So president Kennedy had a globe with black pins stuck in it, marking each trouble spot on the globe. So here he was standing next to this black globe.” and so on and so on. It seemed like a pretty pertinent comment on the state of affairs at the time, and seems applicable to todays world as well. There are enough problems in the world today, that trying to solve them, from global warming, to pollution, to dealing with ISIS, that it has come to resemble a game of whack-a-mole, with no real solutions in sight. Deal with one problem, and another one pops up. I’m afraid that we are drowning, and have been reduced to flailing around, with no real prospects of resolution in sight. Frankly, it seems like there are too many things going to hell at the same time, so as to make a satisfactory solution to any of it very difficult. Do I sound discouraged? I’m sitting here field stripping and cleaning my .45 as I type this.

    • Pogo July 27, 2015 at 5:35 pm #

      Yeah, Mort Sahl, Lenny Bruce, George Carlin….I miss them all. Thanks for reminding me.

      Do you recall the old Kingston Trio song “They’re Rioting in Africa” from about 1958 or so? It seems not much has changed.

      “They’re rioting in Africa. They’re starving in Spain. There’s hurricanes in Florida and Texas needs rain.

      The whole world is festering with unhappy souls. The French hate the Germans. The Germans hate the Poles.

      Italians hate Yugoslavs. South Africans hate the Dutch and I don’t like anybody very much!

      But we can be tranquil and thankful and proud for man’s been endowed with a mushroom shaped cloud.

      And we know for certain that some lovely day someone will set the spark off and we will all be blown away.

      They’re rioting in Africa. There’s strife in Iran. What nature doesn’t do to us will be done by our fellow man.”

  52. trussel1 July 27, 2015 at 4:53 pm #

    Long time reader. First Comment. Sanders is our only current hope. Support him, or get the hell out of the way. Send him $$, not flimsy hyperbole.

    • dannyboy July 27, 2015 at 6:26 pm #

      perhaps with more practice future Comments will be better.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 6:31 pm #

        Who are you kidding? You’re gonna vote for him jus because….

        • dannyboy July 28, 2015 at 9:20 am #

          Wrong again

          About everything and everyone

          But, I expect that you consider that sacrifice a small price

          To be noticed.

  53. wpa--ccc July 27, 2015 at 4:57 pm #

    Mister Darling: “We can Run Out of Road for instance – which is happening, as transportation infrastructure crumbles to dust…”

    Janos: “Exactly. Those countries are even more dysfunctional than they apparently are.”

    I don’t know what parts of the world you are both speaking about, but Europe and South America and some parts of Asia have the USA beat when it comes to “transportation infrastructure.” In many of those countries you do not need a car… because public transportation is readily available.

    Compared to the USA, South America has superior bus / taxi / colectivo systems in place. Private cars are a luxury many cannot afford.

    Colectivos are shared taxis and they started in the 1920s in South America. You might have to wait a few minutes for the “colectivo” to fill up before you start moving, but you get to your destination for a reasonable price in a reasonable time.

    Their buses are also superior, even luxurious, compared to Greyhound/Trailways. Their tax fleets often use natural gas, not gasoline.

    Their urban light rail systems are non-existent in most parts of the United States. For example, TransMilenio is a bus rapid transit (BRT) system that serves Bogotá, the capital of Colombia with 12 lines totalling 112 km (70 mi) running throughout the city, making it the world’s largest bus rapid transit system.


    Not dysfunctional, Janos… and way ahead of the USA. Other countries will never allow their transportation infrastruture to “crumble to dust” (to quote Mr. Darling).


    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 10:01 pm #

      So should we invade their country by the million to cash in on this advanced economy?

    • barbisbest July 28, 2015 at 10:00 am #

      wpa-ccc- my millenial son, who works on the railroad, tells me there are plans to put rail across VA to Richmond, with a budget surplus. Rumor has it. Cross my fingers.

      I would like to say to millenials, you will be a strong voting force in the not to distant future. You can help to insure that some of the ideas that JHK writes about are implemented. It would be wise to encourage more rail, bio-dynamic farming throughout the country, etc., etc. It may be wise to wonder why executives in this nation make 300 X the average worker, that would never fly in Norway. Also, as I look back, I’ve lived in a hovel and new home and More happiness was experienced in the hovel. Newer, better doesn’t mean squat. In other words, the rich man isn’t the one who has the most, but is happiest with the least. That said, perhaps we should all read the book Radical Gratitude.

      danny boy, I don’t know how old you are, but hope you got this. If you ever need a kidney….. I’m your huckleberry.

  54. Frankiti July 27, 2015 at 5:09 pm #

    Sanders is a clown. He’s the window-dressing, the theater that masquerades as a legitimate democratic process… whatever that is. It’s Bush Vs. Clinton. Everything else is merely theatrics. All the idealist college-aged socialists are rallying around Sanders who is just not a serious threat. Besides, Hillary has already been anointed by the people with power. Why lament the loss of a party? The partisan divide is what grinds this country to a halt. It’s the process, the system, that’s broken. You can fill the vacuum with two new parties and it will break down just the same. The GOP is dead, and has been for quite some time. They just don’t know it yet. Perhaps it will dawn on the 16 and counting candidates that their very competing campaigns are proof of it.
    There is no alternative to the 2 party system. It’s the only game in town, and it’s fixed.
    Does anyone under the age of 40 even consider the NYT as a legitimate news source? A paper of record? They don’t exist. there are no legitimate sources of “news”. Of course the Times is subsiding on loans from Mexican tycoons and page hits driven by sensationalist drivel. They are done. Their system is over. It’s a failed method of delivery. It’s all failing, and all at once.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 5:18 pm #

      Yes, time for a the Man on a White Horse to take control and reestablish Law and Order. But he cannot do it alone – we must support him when he arises. Is Trump him? Doubtful, be he is saying a lot of the right things – hence the incredible support. But the Great Leader will also say things people don’t want to hear – which is why Democracy isn’t a viable system in general, as the Founders well knew. The vote must be restricted to the qualified.

      I admit in small, highly educated populations it may be viable, as in Old New England. But even there, only a small number of people are really involved beyond voting. My old Professor said in his New England town, a couple of hundred out of 13,000 were really active. The moral? When people aren’t excluded, they tend to exclude themselves. Thus the principle of Elitism is again proven true.

    • barbisbest July 28, 2015 at 9:49 am #

      Frankiti. Bush will not be president. Sorry Charlie. It ain’t gonna happen. Don’t underestimate Sanders. But, Bush, no sirreee.

      • Frankiti July 28, 2015 at 4:39 pm #

        Perhaps, nobody said he would, but he will be a nominee. Let me know how much better you feel after pulling the lever for Hillary rather than Jeb. Sanders is completely unelectable. Where as Bush and Hillary can pull from the middle and those closer to the center, Sanders skews far, far left. He’s done before he even started. I remember the senior Paul winning caucuses, drawing large crowds of idealists and frustrated partisans, making gobs of money through small donations. The hysteria in the run-up brings heady times. Reality dissipates it all rather quickly. Enjoy… for now.

  55. sherlockolms July 27, 2015 at 5:22 pm #

    Dear Mr. Kunstler,
    Isn’t it about time that you turned away from the ‘dark side’ (aka the democrat party)?
    I’m referring to your obvious preference for localization and individual freedom.
    Join us crazy-ass Libertarians and learn the trade of “herding cats”. I guarantee that you’ll find it far less frustrating than supporting more candidates tied to either the big banks or the big unions. 🙂

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 5:50 pm #

      Most Libertarians want open borders. That’s not localism. Localism means protecting your land against invaders, even if they come armed with poverty. I’m serious: Whites have no resistance to beggars if they are of a different race.

      Other races don’t have this problem…..

      • sherlockolms July 27, 2015 at 8:13 pm #

        Open borders?

        • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 8:29 pm #

          What’s a border?? Or what does open mean??

  56. wpa--ccc July 27, 2015 at 5:28 pm #

    “Sanders is a clown. He’s the window-dressing…” –Franktiti

    That is what many have thought, to their detriment, in the string of Sanders’ electoral victories. He has been called window-dressing before when running as an outsider. Sanders ran as an independent against the democrats in the Burlington mayoral election in 1981… AND SANDERS WON.

    He has been called a clown before when taking on the establishment parties. In 1990 Sanders took on both the Republicans and the Democrats in the race for United States Representative from Vermont’s at-large district… AND SANDERS WON. Then he won re-election in 1992, 1994, 1996, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006. Sanders has made winning into a habit.

    Then in 2012 Mr. “Window-Dressing Clown” ran for the Senate against a Republican candidate… AND SANDERS WON.

    Call him a Democratic Socialist, call him a winner… but he is not window-dressing and he is definitely not a clown. Sanders may the example of anti-clown.


    • Frankiti July 27, 2015 at 5:50 pm #

      He’s a sideshow… he’s the warm-up act. He’ll never, ever, ever, ever be the Democratic contender, and he’ll absolutely never, ever, ever be president. Vermont is a podunk hippie state with the economy of Haiti. I never knew there was a Republican party of Vermont.

      • wpa--ccc July 27, 2015 at 6:14 pm #

        Bernie Sanders is beating every single major Republican candidate in a CNN poll released July 26, 2015.

        Sanders beat Jeb Bush 48-47, Scott Walker 48-42 and Donald Trump by a massive 58-38 margin.

        If the Democrats want to win the presidential election, they will choose Bernie Sanders.

        • Frankiti July 27, 2015 at 6:25 pm #

          Yawn… If a poll was conducted with JayZ, or Dr. Phil, or Oprah vs Bush, more people would vote for JayZ and the like, but you see, the people with the reins don’t wan’t JayZ, they want Hillary or Jeb, and you’ll want one of those two, too.

      • elysianfield July 30, 2015 at 9:44 pm #

        “He’s a sideshow… he’s the warm-up act. He’ll never, ever, ever, ever be the Democratic contender, and he’ll absolutely never, ever, ever be president”

        You are probably correct…he is marginally unelectable on several issues. However, I will vote for him, only for the fact that he is not yet bought and paid for by corporate interests, and his motives are, and have always been, altruistic. I further believe that a platform of Sanders/Warren, could win the popular vote, for what that would be worth. To me, altruism in a candidate is a primary consideration, important above all others.

  57. Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 5:48 pm #


    First published in the newspaper of the Socialist Worker Party. The author disavows Bernie Sanders as a Socialist, saying he is a mainstream Liberal Democrat. He is outraged that Sanders has on occasion given at least lip service to protecting America’s borders and spoken in a civil tone with American Populists like Lou Dobbs.

    These people don’t want America to exist as a nation – or any nation to exist in reality. He condemns Sanders for being in bed with Democrats and Republicans, yet he is in bed with the Globalists.

  58. BackRowHeckler July 27, 2015 at 6:16 pm #

    How about Jim Webb? Is his hat still in the ring? That’s one Dem I could back, I tell you what.

    Altho his book documenting and praising the hard drinking, screwing, fighting Scotch-Irish from Appalachia to Texas (what he calls the American Backbone) might very well disqualify him, as he was weak in his praise of Mexicans, Blacks and immigrants from eastern Europe. Also he didn’t talk up transvestites and homosexuals, a must do if you want to win elections.


    • barbisbest July 28, 2015 at 9:28 am #

      Yes, our Jim Webb is still in the ring, but he won’t be president. He’ll never make it.

  59. wpa--ccc July 27, 2015 at 6:18 pm #

    Bernie Sanders is electable because the kinds of policies Sanders is advocating — debt-free college, universal pre-K, basic income, ending corporate welfare — are the kinds of policies that turn unlikely voters into voters.

    Sanders isn’t as extreme as his opponents make him out to be, and the American public agrees with him on his core issues.

    But the real reason Sanders is electable is that he has the potential to turn people out who otherwise wouldn’t vote at all.

    • Frankiti July 27, 2015 at 6:27 pm #

      Buahhhaaaaaahaaaa…. is this baby’s first election?

    • Frankiti July 27, 2015 at 7:04 pm #

      “Bernie Sanders is electable because the kinds of policies Sanders is advocating — debt-free college, universal pre-K, basic income, ending corporate welfare — are the kinds of policies that turn unlikely voters into voters.”

      -He is saying one thing to different audiences; I’ll give you, the voter, money.

  60. Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 6:28 pm #

    Globalism is the Ideology of the Cancer Cell. All cell walls (borders) must be breached and then eliminated. All organs (countries) must be merged into one giant gelatinous mass – all differences of function and identity becoming just a dream. The triumph of Man or transformation into an Amoeba?

  61. littleplanet July 27, 2015 at 6:31 pm #

    Well I’m not surprised that quite a number of the first replies to this all had to talk about bathrooms (which was kinda the point that JHK was making in the first place, no?) Talk about anal-retentive.

    I’ve never commented here before (though I’ve been reading the blog religiously since its birth) – but something finally snapped.
    And all it took, after all, was bathrooms.

    As to anything really astute to say about today’s topic:
    Being a Canuck, I have never truly understood (from the inside out) the whole red-blue thing (though we have our own colored version of that, to be sure.)

    The easy part to agree with, resoundingly – is the idea that large numbers of supposedly pretty smart people will, as usual, piss into that intellectual windstorm until it just winds up blowing them (us) all away.
    Politics always was kinda vacuous a thing, I suppose.
    Now it isn’t even that, anymore.
    About as relevant as a Punch and Judy show.
    (which is hysterical for pre-schoolers, apparently)
    And then you grow up and it loses all its glamor.

    But what makes me smile (like one might upon first meeting with a long lost relative) is the reference to the MIghty Corporatocracy.
    Now, that’s a hard word to say fast. (Try it.)
    As hard as it is to say – it is apparently completely impossible for any known politician of any stripe (including skunk) to have a clue about what to do with.

    Which is maybe where the deep vitals of the real story lies, and has always lain hidden in plain sight.
    It’s one thing to consider the teeth of the beast safely tucked away behind the zoo bars.
    It’s another thing entirely, to find that the bars are gone, and he’s very much up close and personal with his (intended) lunch.

    How and why we are lunch is not the pressing issue. That’s just the nature of the beast.
    How and why we got into that postion is not necessarily relevant either.
    What is – is the obviously pressing need to not become lunch.

    Works for one individual.
    Works even moreso for an entire society.

    And we think politicians will solve that little problem?
    (all they ever really do is rearrange the pretty Lego patterns)
    toys for boys (and some girls)
    Where did the men and women go?

  62. budizwiser July 27, 2015 at 7:22 pm #

    Hey JKI,

    I’m surprised no mention of this tidbit on Huxley. I read most of his stuff but had never realized he had a thing for “centralization.”

    I mean the concept of course was all over BNW – he didn’t refer to so expressly as this interview.

    Check out comment about the badness of being big…….. its near the middle


    You may want to point out – much like Aldous always did, that no matter how “local” we go – its game over if we can’t get the third world to keep it in their pants…….

    • Janos Skorenzy July 27, 2015 at 10:00 pm #

      Ed Abbey said the same thing about the Mexicans. Nothing else matters if we can’t stop the invasion. Conservatism started the Conservation Movement and it looks like we’re going to have to pick up the baton again – the Liberal Watermelons (red on the inside) have dropped it.

  63. ghostlimb July 27, 2015 at 10:34 pm #

    Threes are nice clusterings, but I would add one more agenda project to America’s list of need-to-do-it-yesterday items… localizing agriculture, rebuilding local economies and Main Streets, and resurrecting passenger rail – retooling and reworking the electric grid.
    Vulnerabilities within the current grid are astonishing – there may not be enough capital to invest to make it a “smart” grid – a less fragile, easy to shut down grid would be step 1.
    An interconnected web that allows for supplemental solar and wind energy as well as limits to individual, gluttonous energy use would extend the life of lit streets and stoves to heat kettles on – for decades to come… otherwise, we’re surely headed to an acoustic future, de-electrified.

  64. Buck Stud July 27, 2015 at 10:52 pm #

    “We need to prepare for localized clinic-style medicine…”–JHK

    Do we prepare for “clinic style medicine” before or after the high tech hip/heart/ knee–whatever–procedure?

    And therein lies the rub: It’s easy to call for medical austerity after one has had THEIR surgery.

    The truth of the matter is most everybody wants access to high tech medical solutions and never so much as in their time of need. Thus. the can not only gets kicked down the road but eagerly so.

    After all, who on this page–including the host– has eschewed high tech medicine in favor of localized clinic-style medicine? Hip replacement or planting seeds from a wheel chair?

    Uh, let’s hold out on that collapse stuff till I get might my shit fixed.

    • BackRowHeckler July 27, 2015 at 11:59 pm #

      A little snark on a Monday nite, Buck …

      Jim got zinged but that’s what happens sometimes when you put yourself out there each and every week …

      A lot of people getting shot in our cities this summer and they’re dealing with it in different ways. Hartford called in the state police, the FBI, and ATF to assist them, to try to stem the violence. New Haven has been holding ‘anti violence rallies’, which to me seem counterproductive, kind of like sending the town crier out at 3:00 am shouting “sleep, its time to sleep”. It was at just one of these ‘anti violence rallies’ yesterday that a young adult was gunned down in the street, which ended the rally real quick and sent everybody scurrying. We’re moving into a heatwave and its a hot nite tonite; driving into work the streets seemed tense. More trouble is brewing and I’ll hear the casualty list on the truck radio driving home in the morning.


  65. tssmith55 July 28, 2015 at 12:02 am #

    I get amused when you talk about restoring our “national passenger railroad system”. Uh, we never had one. What passenger service existed before, say, the 1950s, existed at the whim of the companies that ran freight, and when passenger service stopped being profitable, sometime in the 1950s, they abandoned it in droves. So we got Amtrak

    Gee, Capitalism, isn’t it great?

    • BackRowHeckler July 28, 2015 at 12:29 am #

      We had some great passenger railroads here, the Pennsy, New York Central, Erie, Baltimore and Ohio, New Haven, SP (to name just a few) … then autos were invented, and the public turned away from trains.

      In 1945 the Pennsylvania Railroad employed 300,000 people; it was gone by 1970.

      One obversation I can make from personal experience is that the middle class has largely abandoned Amtrak. The middle class is at the airport, except for the few who are afraid to fly.


      • tssmith55 July 28, 2015 at 10:22 am #

        Have traveled as a passenger on all those roads (except the B&O). Them were the days, weren’t they?

  66. Pucker July 28, 2015 at 1:12 am #

    According to the book “Battle Cry of Freedom”, “[I]in the largest American cities by the 1840s, the wealthiest 5 percent of the population owned about 70 percent of the taxable property, while the poorest half owned almost nothing.”

    “In the nation as a whole by 1860 the top 5 percent of free adult males owned 53 percent of the wealth and the bottom half owned only 1 percent.”

    [By the 1850s], [t]he ideology of republicanism has also become more divisive than unifying….”

  67. Yuri Sowryteski July 28, 2015 at 1:23 am #

    Howdy Jim! I take your point about the discontinuity between where we are, and what Bernie is talking about. I don’t know where he thinks we are, but he wants to get elected Pres. Anyone wanting to be Pres. can’t talk about where we are. Or am I wrong about that? Sure, you talk about all the time, but you’re not stupid enou- I mean being Pres isn’t on your bucket list, is it?

    A really smart person would ask, who do the plutocrats want to be pres.? Then one could vote for the winner. Alternatively, one could ask, who do the plutocrats really fear? And then, somehow, make that matter. I myself don’t have any children, but for people seven generations from now, it will matter, if Bernie was elected.

    Why? ask the plutocrats about the shit in their pants.



    for examples of the forth estate freak-out.

  68. nsa July 28, 2015 at 1:32 am #

    The Mullah Huckabee, noted cleric from the arkansas chigger belt, has stated the earth is 6000 years old. The brilliant stateswoman, Palin, agrees and adds the thought that humans and dinosaurs were both created by the sky fag about 4000 bc and wandered the earth together.. Another genius metaphysician, Senor Rubio, stated he had no idea of the earth’s age, but would consult with a knowledgeable creationist for an answer to this mystery. Carson and Santorum also subscribe to the “young earth” concept, when not busy baiting the homos. Can anyone be blamed for thinking R stands for Retarded?

    • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 4:32 pm #

      Check out the Westboro Baptist Church’s “Hey Jews” video, sung to the tune of Hey Jude on youtube. I think you will be converting. Their God is a God of Hosts! No sky fag here.

  69. Pucker July 28, 2015 at 1:56 am #

    “I have a question for candidate Donald Trump: Should President Polk have annexed all of Mexico? “

    • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 4:33 pm #

      No. That’s why Nationalists admire Attaturk: he gave up territory to preserve Turkish culture.

  70. Pucker July 28, 2015 at 2:02 am #

    The political ideology and practice of the Democratic Party today is all about division, right?

  71. Pucker July 28, 2015 at 2:41 am #

    Brigham Young had 55 wives.

    • barbisbest July 28, 2015 at 9:32 am #

      Pucker- women should all have 5 husbands. The world would be a much happier place!! One husband can go out with the boys, fishing and drinking, one stays home and reads poetry, one works outside, etc. and then they just switch off. A much happier place!!!

  72. Merak July 28, 2015 at 4:22 am #

    I imagine the American economy like a bus going downhill at an unhealthy speed. Jim Kunstler is a passenger on this bus and realizes that there are two drivers at the wheel who cannot agree how to navigate the coming s-bends. As one driver wants to pull the wheel to the left, the other driver shouts” too extreme” and vice versa. The speedometer does not show miles per hour but instead GDP, so braking is not really an option and the brakes have been outsourced to China anyway. Jim gets really nervous and wants to raise awareness amongst the other passengers, but they all have earphones on and are fiddling with their smartphones. Jim even has a “to do list” ready, he knows how this bus could be stopped but no matter how much noise he makes, no one is paying attention.
    Well, under these circumstances, ” crash and burn” seems to be the inevitable outcome of this….

  73. FincaInTheMountains July 28, 2015 at 6:38 am #

    US Department of Justice finally took up the request to start criminal investigation against Hillary Clinton – the former Secretary of State and the most likely candidate from the Democratic Party in the presidential elections. The presidential candidate is accused of using personal e-mail address for official correspondence and is suspected of violating the provisions of the federal documents law that requires transfer of them to archival storage.

    The authors of the request consider that we are talking hundreds of emails with potentially sensitive data. Clinton denies any wrongdoing and refers to her predecessors, saying that they all did the same. Now the State Department verifies her correspondence, but it became clear that Hillary has removed more than 30 thousand letters from her account.

    Now there is little doubt that not only the Bushes are behind this case, but also some senior figures in the Republican Party, who decided to send Clinton an “answer” for impeachment case of President Nixon that happened more than 30 years ago and in which Hillary played a key role.

  74. FincaInTheMountains July 28, 2015 at 7:16 am #

    Ukraine: a suitcase without a handle?

    Ukraine is rapidly turning into a suitcase without a handle for the United States: it’s impossible to carry it and it’s a shame to drop.

    First, Kerry’s visit to Sochi, then the formation of the Nuland-Karasin commission, one-sided implementation of the Minsk-2 on the part of Donbass People’s Republics, the recognition of the Right Sector as illegal by the EU, US pressure on Poroshenko and parliament during the vote on amendments to the Ukrainian Constitution on the question of special Status of Donbass.

    It is becoming increasingly common version that the US are in the process of changing Poroshenko with the Right Sector. It is no secret that for United States, Ukraine became expensive ballast, which is impossible to fund (try to feed nearly 40 million mouths). Better to effectively get rid of it by bringing Nazis to power. Of course, this will only accelerate the reversal of the population in the direction of Russia, but the damage it’ll cause can justify the means. The United States in this case simply distance themselves from the Nazis without losing the face.

    There is no further American strategy in Ukraine giving their inability to drag Russia into that conflict. They could still try using Boeing and international tribunal to declare Russia as aggressor country. By hook or by crook. If that goes, the American game will still make sense. If not, they could bet on Yarosh of the Right Sector to come to power, so they could distance themselves from this “bastard regime”.

    So US will “wash their hands” living a chaos territory between EU and Russia for long time to come.

    • pequiste July 29, 2015 at 12:08 am #

      Concise and insightful analysis here Finca. Thank you.

  75. barbisbest July 28, 2015 at 9:22 am #

    danny boy- wow, I just re-read parts of the end of Russell’s Science to God. We have reached what Buckminster Fuller called our final evolutionary exam. The questions before us are simple, can we move beyond a limited mode of consciousness? Can we let go of our illusions, discover who we really are? These questions face us everywhere. Degradation of the environment is forcing us to examine our priorities and values. Political and economic crises reveal the short-comings of self-centered thinking. Disillusionment with materialism implores us to ask what it is we REALLY WANT. Many social problems reflect the MEANINGLESSNESS inherent in the contemporary worldview. From all directions, the message is “WAKE UP!” In the past, greater awareness of the true self was deemed important for personal well-being. Today the game has changed; it is now imperative for our collective survival.

    You’re alright danny boy. If you ever need a kidney, look me up.

    • dannyboy July 28, 2015 at 9:54 am #

      Thank you for the Sir Russell quote and kidney offer!. You are twice generous.

      I, personally do believe we’ll make progress. Kunstler’s essay this week suggests some great to-dos.

      I don’t much look to politics, as currently practiced, as the source of those solutions. The readers of CFN know that, and their Comments help explain why others don’t. The open question is how long will it take for a larger segment to understand our joint dilemma while we jointly suffer with this?

      • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 2:51 pm #

        Like taking candy from a baby. But remember, if we had the media, they’d be bowing to us and parroting our slogans in six months.

    • Frankiti July 28, 2015 at 4:55 pm #

      Humans have one linear-time based consciousness. A trap that allows them to render and perceive the phenomenal world but at the cost of anticipating demise. An evolutionary mistake of sorts.
      Collective survival? Who wants, needs, and/or believes that?
      The denizens of a planet that would be exponentially better with our absence?

      Y’all are missing the revelation.
      Humans are not worth saving.

      Or missing the courage to admit it.
      The will cannot be stopped… must want to go on. Want, need, next.

      At most some derivative of humanity can hope to persist outside of the phenomenal world, in the ether, in some virtual consciousness… administered by AI overlords.
      Perhaps we already are.

  76. FincaInTheMountains July 28, 2015 at 9:34 am #

    If the Chinese economy does slow down, it will be a big challenge for everyone, from the West (the prospects for revenue growth of many Western companies (the same Apple, for example) are tied tightly to the Chinese market) and ending with Australia and Russia – countries that supply resources to China.

    “The big problem” – it does not mean that “ahhh! We all gonna die!”, It means that the second round of super-crisis, which began in 2008, will start a little earlier than expected and not quite where expected.

  77. barbisbest July 28, 2015 at 10:08 am #

    danny boy–please see my reply to wpa-ccc above. Don’t know how old you are, but doesn’t matter. I meant that kidney thing!!!

    • barbisbest July 28, 2015 at 10:18 am #

      Janos, in reply to your comment above, some of us would like to see dead bodies everywhere. As for me, I don’t. Even if there were Janos, dying is like going through a doorway. These shells are vessels for something bigger. I can just be grateful to have been here on this planet at all.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 2:56 pm #

        My point is that you are sentimentalizing the Earth too much. None of the Sages or Saints do so. Even a beautiful place is a prison is you are confined to it. And the Earth is not so beautiful in all its details. And death certainly isn’t and is far more than a detail.

        But once you have the freedom of Space (in all its dimensions), even the prison can be seen as part of the greater – and enjoyed for its relative beauties.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 4:12 pm #

      They mean that kidney thing too. Look at the sale of body parts by Planned Parenthood.

    • dannyboy July 28, 2015 at 6:19 pm #

      It is a very generous offer, but despite my years I am in excellent health for now. Plenty of exercise and 45 years vegetarian diet.

      Be well.

  78. Q. Shtik July 28, 2015 at 11:10 am #

    who on this page–including the host– has eschewed high tech medicine in favor of localized clinic-style medicine? – Buck


    A couple/three months ago, while waiting interminably for my appointment date with my primary care doc (who is associated with a major hospital), my condition became sooo bad my wife rushed me to an urgent care clinic. I could hardly walk from the car to the clinic door. Turns out I had pneumonia. The pills he prescribed saved me and when my regular doc appointment came up she dealt with some related issues in the aftermath.

    • malthuss July 28, 2015 at 2:07 pm #

      Garlic [Kyolic] are a good boost for immune system.

      ‘P’ is a disease for PWA.

      • pequiste July 29, 2015 at 12:23 am #

        Malthuss is absolutely correct about the garlic. I use both minced and fresh smashed cloves.

        Please also be advised that a zinc regimen plus oregano oil are very strong natural medicines against viral infections including flu and pneumonia.

  79. wholy1 July 28, 2015 at 12:15 pm #

    Most other Individuals on this site already know what is the corp-owned “Lame Dream Tedia’s” “Big D’s” insidious agenda: Debt, Debilitation, Dumbing-down and DISTRACTION. Real change begins with the “R’s” of the REPENTANCE process of Realization-Restitution-Resolution followed by replacing the “D’s” with the “G’s”: GOD (spiritual REcovenant with the almighty Author), GROUND (rural, unencumbered, arable, elevated, away from coasts, urban/suburban and nuclear sites), GROUP (impossible to secure life, limb, and property ALONE – get “neighborly”!), GUNS (if/when the hordes of unprepared desperate urban zombies come “calling”). GARDEN (having the seed and ground doesn’t suffice – “growing it is knowing it”), GRAINS (store-able food/medical etc), GOLD (start with some pre-65 silver coinage easily recognizable/trade-able). Might even find how many MORE “Blessings from the Beginning” get revealed in the mean-time! Are you having fun yet?!

  80. Q. Shtik July 28, 2015 at 12:18 pm #

    One room, one person is fine. It’s the larger bathrooms and changing rooms such as in department stores and gyms, also schools, that would be the problem. – Beryl


    Our sensibilities about voiding (numbers 1 and 2, but especially #2) have evolved.

    My son made a trip to Italy and sent back a pic of the old Roman system: a sort of long bench made of marble or granite with keyhole shaped openings (much like our toilet seats) positioned over a trough through which water was sluiced to wash away the poop. A couple of Romans of whatever gender might sit down next to one another and chat about the day’s news while enjoying their daily constitution.

    On a tour through Europe in 1959 I noted urinals built into brick walls (France and Germany, I think) along well traveled streets and sidewalks. The male, at least, could take a leak in public.

    In Paris during that same 1959 tour I had to “go” very badly. I dashed from our taxi to a restaurant, found the restroom and entered. As I went in a woman was coming out. There were two stalls, each with doors, and a sort of shallow funnel-shaped hole in the floor with markings where the feet should be positioned. I forget the details about niceties like toilet paper and running water.

    I wonder if those outdoor urinals and holes in the bathroom floor still exist. Anybody know?

    • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 2:59 pm #

      Why? So you can go over there again and use them? Shit in your own backyard – that’s the essence of what we’re trying to say here.

  81. volodya July 28, 2015 at 12:19 pm #

    Mr Darling, sure, and not only that but there are red lines between which politicians must walk. Venturing outside those red lines is not allowed.

    I don’t think anyone in the elite has forgotten what happens when the Oligarchy is defied. Do their bidding or else.

    Two generations ago a coup: the President’s head blown all over hell and yonder in broad day-light, the alleged perp shot right in front on the cops, right in front of the cameras and right in a police station, the killer of the supposed perp dead in jail a short time later supposedly of cancer.

    And, just to make sure the point was made, a joke of a police investigation, a howler of a commission of inquiry where, of course, nothing was proved, or rather, everything was – cough – proved.

    And then, just to make double-sure nobody misunderstood, the dead President’s brother also shot dead.

    It’s been a long time so I’ll bet that by now all the guys behind all this mayhem are safely in their graves via natural causes or otherwise. All of them knew better than to utter a peep.

    And I wouldn’t doubt that some made their departure through the exit marked “otherwise” just to forestall an attack of conscience. In any case none of them talked.

    So now the candidates are fully aware of where they’re allowed to tread. And, more importantly, where they’re not.

    Bernie, for all his fulminating, also knows. In the end, Bernie will walk the line.

    My comment about what he might say and do in the Oval Office was more about entertainment than anything substantive. Same with Joe Biden. In my estimation, neither would dare threaten Oligarch interests.

    • pequiste July 29, 2015 at 12:27 am #

      Someone has their vision corrected to 20/20.

  82. Q. Shtik July 28, 2015 at 1:08 pm #

    National Socialism was an enterprising mixture of public and private, and big and small. It not only worked, but worked fantastically. – Janos


    Germany’s 7 million unemployed in the early ’30s found employment in re-arming Germany to the teeth in violation of the Versailles treaty. With the aid of conscription, other millions were employed in the Army, Navy, Luftwaffe, S.A. and SS. It is not clear to me how they paid for all this. Twelve and a half million Germans served in the Army during WW2; 25% were killed. Every facet of life was controlled by the regime.

    • volodya July 28, 2015 at 1:25 pm #

      Worked fantastically sure. Selectively ignoring broad swathes of events is useless.

      Neither is it much good to start an account of the Nazi regime in 1945 when Soviet armies were crossing into Germany making it look like Germany was the aggrieved party, beset by Soviet aggression.

      That is, ignore the years when German armies slaughtered Soviets by the millions.

      For history to have any worth as a field of study it has to be taken as it happened not as people would have liked it to happen.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 3:03 pm #

        Right. And you folks rave about Germany invading Poland but Stalin’s invasion was fine – as was the occupation for decades. After all, he was an “ally”.

        Facts are facts. Germany was recovering. Workers were encouraged to go on vacations. Birthrates were way up (like most Whites, Germans didn’t have babies they couldn’t pay for, unlike many other peoples we could mention). Thus Hitler was literally the Father of the Nation by making this possible.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 3:07 pm #

      No serous person defends that treaty today. It was a humiliation of Germany by the utterly vindictive Allies. It lead directly to WW2. It is exactly what they intend to do to all Nations including the United State. So of course they broke the “Treaty”. The Weimar Republic was not a legitimate expression of the German People.

      Sure rearming was important. They had been disarmed after all. Subsequent events showed that the world intended to destroy them. You can’t kick out the International Bankers and imagine you are going to live in peace.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 3:56 pm #

      And who is calling the Kettle, white? You worked in the armaments industry yourself. You are probably a reincarnated Nazi soldier who died young.

  83. Q. Shtik July 28, 2015 at 1:41 pm #

    Examples are Raúl Grijalva, Keith Ellison, Mark Pocan, Shirley Jackson Lee, Alan Grayson, Luis Gutierrez, Jim McDermott, Maxine Waters, and many others. – wpa


    On this list the only household name to me is Maxine Waters. She is the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services committee that periodically grills Janet Yellen (and before Yellen, Ben Bernanke).

    I always feel somewhat embarrassed for Ms Waters as she tries to pretend she actually understands the inner-workings of the Fed (not that I do) and I also feel sorry for guys like Representative Jeb Hensarling, the republican from Texas who heads the committee (and who obviously knows what he is talking about) since he and others (mostly white folks) are forced by political correctness not to allow their eyes to roll when Maxine is speaking.

    • malthuss July 28, 2015 at 2:09 pm #

      Ultra Left, hateful Maxine and hubby ‘escaped going to jail.’

      House Ethics Committee ends Maxine Waters investigation …
      Sep 25, 2012 – Rep. Maxine Waters, (D-Los Angeles) smiles at her husband, Sidney Williams,… (J. Scott Applewhite / AP…) WASHINGTON — The House …
      Waters’ husband wanders too close for comfort – Anna …
      Feb 3, 2015 – The former NFL player and U.S. ambassador, who is married to Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) … Waters was under investigation for nearly three years over whether she used her position on the House Financial Services …
      Report details Maxine Waters ethics case debacle – John …
      http://www.politico.com › Congress
      Sep 25, 2012 – The long saga of the Maxine Waters ethics investigation is a chronicle … far more than the roughly $350,000 investment that Waters’s husband,

  84. Dubs July 28, 2015 at 1:48 pm #

    Jim (et al.),

    I forget who said it, but the old line goes, ‘Americans are suckers for ‘reform’ ‘ – or, I might add, any situation, policy, or politician which promises it. Read ‘change’, et al. for ‘reform’.

    Perhaps it’s the older Protestant population, rooted in the Reformation, who for generations swallowed the concept. Now ‘reform’, rather than older, meaningless shibboleths, is concerned with sexual identification or banking ‘reform’ laws. All equally vacuous.

    It’s a soap opera. Treat it as such.

  85. Cavepainter July 28, 2015 at 2:19 pm #

    Survival on planet earth is getting slimmer as collapse of the substrate that supports it accelerates. We’re at the top of the food chain supported by microbes — those little squiggly things below eyesight detection that are showing distress from impact of too many humans (and human activity) no less but many times more critically than bees and coral which gets all the mention for being more obvious. Our lack of notice is due to us humans wanting to anthropomorphize the global disaster. Similarly, attention to the “petrol problem” – which is real – shows the peculiar social/cultural bias of view of the developed nations. Well, anyway, what will put the nail in America’s only chance for survival will be taking the course argued by the Liberal Left to make our nation a refuge to all the desperate millions seeking to flee areas that have already become un supporting of life at any level of what we humans might consider “our” food chain. Problem is, humans tend to turn toward “upbeat” messages (Obama’s platitudes or other pols’ smiley face assurances) because it reduces the high caloric burn of anxiety in our big, gas hog brain. Nothing new in that; we’ve always conjured contradictions (denial) to empirical evidence which shows only indifference by nature, That being so and because the lesson of evolution is that calories are unreliably come by we “head fake” ourselves into such as religion faith (or, in the case of the Liberal Left a religious belief in secular utopianism). Essentially, its a new game altogether; waste of critical time worrying about supposed injustice of the past and attempting to reverse engineer history to politically corrective purpose — nature’s calculus doesn’t factor the Left’s moral contentions. The US better quickly close its borders, no time for the Left’s hand-wringing over perceived historical “wrongs”.

    • pequiste July 29, 2015 at 12:31 am #

      Nice assessment…..Lascaux or Altamira?

      • Cavepainter August 1, 2015 at 12:47 am #

        Both I guess, but contrary to the conjecture by art historians and anthropologist (I call it anthro-apology) I’ll bet those scribbling on cave wall were adjured to do something useful, like make fishhooks or steal virgins from neighboring tribes. In other words, not much different from today.

    • malthuss July 29, 2015 at 12:38 pm #

      Microbes? Stressed out?

  86. wpa--ccc July 28, 2015 at 3:25 pm #

    “Shit in your own backyard – that’s the essence of what we’re trying to say here.” –Janos

    The backyard is the whole planet… unlimited by imaginary lines drawn on the planet surface to keep others from using rest rooms when Nature calls. There are no such lines dividing us on Planet Earth… we all shit equally… and have the right to rest rooms of our choice.


    • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 3:42 pm #

      He wants to take a dump on the German people. Haven’t they been through enough? Now they are being invaded again – this time by Moslems.

    • Cavepainter July 28, 2015 at 3:53 pm #

      Uh, yeah,….seems right pithy apothegm if you believe nature’s calculus can be cajoled as God can be according to belief in prayer by those of religious faith. Objective view though doesn’t support such wishful thinking. The sling-shot effect is already unwinding at increasing velocity; cancel the BS that “we’re all in this together”. Fact is, survival at all is a sketchy prospect, and at that only where balance between population and sustainable resources remain. Who did who wrong in the past is now no more than an academic exercise, totally beside the point that the earth is experiencing its greatest species die-off and the reality that 8 billion people is the crushing cause. OK, OK, let’s cross ourselves here in penance for supposed misdeeds and advantage but not martyr ourselves by forfeiting the slight chance we might still have. Close the borders and coalesce into national survival.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 4:02 pm #

        Yes, exactly. Fascism, populism, nationalism, Darwinism – call it what you will but it is the Need of the hour. And what needs be must be.

        Vote Trump. And if he doesn’t do what he has promised, impeach him and cry havoc – letting doose the lods of gore.

    • elysianfield July 28, 2015 at 5:58 pm #

      “we all shit equally…”


  87. Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 3:43 pm #


    Diversity art, like a rainbow colored Moose Head, is being put up in its place. Happy now, haters?

    There just a few years ahead of us. We don’t have much time to stop them.

  88. wpa--ccc July 28, 2015 at 3:51 pm #

    “We don’t have much time to stop them.” –Janos

    Your incessant rants against the inevitable show your weakness. You are right that you have not much time left. Fascist “white” supremacists are a dying breed.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 4:07 pm #

      The disease is advanced, no doubt. It may well be too late for America. But the patient Western Civilization can still be saved, although parts may have to be amputated. But we we’ll be able to take some of them back in time as we took back Spain and the Balkans from the Musslemen.

      Whites obviously have a cultural and perhaps a genetic weakness. We are undone by our charity. When the children’s crusade went to the Holy Land, they were all snatched up by Muslim slavers. But now here in America, the Central American Children’s Crusade is conquering us. We have no resistance to dark skinned people armed with poverty.

      • S M Tenneshaw July 29, 2015 at 11:32 am #

        Pssstttt…try civic nationalism – much less toxic than your brand.

      • malthuss July 29, 2015 at 12:24 pm #

        It may well be too late for America.

        in the spirit of OEO, ‘bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa’.

        Maybe, duh.

        Rayguns 1980s amnasty was the beginning of the end.

      • messianicdruid July 30, 2015 at 5:25 pm #

        America will survive the United States.

    • Cavepainter July 28, 2015 at 4:08 pm #

      Ah,….Leftwing secular idealism, demonstrating once again how the human psyche will always tend toward Band-Aiding over unforgiving reality. The “faithful” cling to notion similar to St. Peter at the Golden Gate tallying those worthy and unworthy for entry. The gate to survival is more like the indifference of an elevator door — some will get in and some won’t based upon carry capacity only.

  89. wpa--ccc July 28, 2015 at 5:21 pm #

    “Ah,….Leftwing secular idealism…” — Cavepainter

    Cavepainter, you sound like a neo-Malthusian. It is easy to throw around the term “carrying capacity” … but it really does not mean much given the historical evidence to the contrary.

    Malthus was wrong in thinking that the growth of food production would not keep pace with population increase. Malthus’ theory has not been empirically confirmed by history. Particularly, since the 1960s, world food production has systematically grown above demographic rates.

    Moreover, high levels of inequalities in food consumption both between different nations (wealthy and poor) and within countries themselves continue to prevail. Therefore, a distributive problem exists – unequal access to income and food resources. Pope Francis is saying more meaningful things in 2015 than Malthus did in 1798.

    Empirical estimates show that public policy can promote more efficient consumption and investment that are sustainable in an ecological sense; that is, given the current (relatively low) population growth rate, the Malthusian catastrophe can be avoided by either a shift in consumer preferences or public policy that induces a similar shift.

    Sorry, Charlie. No collapse for you.

    • Cavepainter July 28, 2015 at 8:20 pm #

      Wow,…I feel so relieved to learn that we’ve not reached overshoot and that all of humanity will somehow be orchestrated social/culturally to single minded purpose (kum-ba-yah end of diversity I guess?), and that human ingenuity can and will transcend our new “opportunity”. Great formula; as situation worsens elevate expectations of miracle, that’ll keep anxiety down.

      • wpa--ccc July 28, 2015 at 11:53 pm #

        De nada.

  90. Frankiti July 28, 2015 at 5:29 pm #

    There’s always a crisis. People always running from the 84th problem.
    Equilibrium never comes, utopia never delivers, the future never arrives. Nor do people want it. It does not exist. Nature calls for an itch to be scratched, to put the body on a mission for a reward. Impulse to feed payoff. Need after need for a desire after desire.
    An astrophysicist slouched in his mechanized chair urges humanity to populate space… like a good virus. Nobody questions his reasons. Survival of the big-brained monkey. A Kantian Copernican sea-change is in order. Humanity will meet its demise on this planet, and we all should be more than fine with that. In the meantime, fill your time yearning for that perfect fixed point in history, back when things were perfect and nothing ever changed. I like watching the ants here scramble… the hill is never without need of repair. We must be ready for the end that never comes so that we may persist… for the next end that never comes.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 7:01 pm #

      This is decadence. Since you don’t believe in humanity, what right do you have to say anything to those who do? It would be like people who don’t like blueberry muffins debating with blueberry muffin aficionados what makes for a good blueberry muffin. Cease and desist already. Go die quietly someplace. Maybe you could join the Church of Euthanasia for fellowship perhaps.

      • Frankiti July 28, 2015 at 9:11 pm #

        Decadence you say. Believe in humanity? Humanity exists, indisputably. Perhaps you mean to say hope for it, or believe in its never-ending future, ad infinitum? That would be silly, almost religious in its pointlessness. And all of this coming from a pitiful ceaselessly posting creature that embodies moral decay…how rich. Most certainly you’d be singing a different tune for euthanasia of certain “races” you loathe. Hypocrites; they out themselves with more pageantry than a crossdressing decathlete on live TV. Regrettably, only one of you have a point.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 4:33 pm #

          Whites are the ones being genocided. We are an endangered species.

          • Frankiti July 29, 2015 at 5:29 pm #

            I can’t seem to find that species… does not exist.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 10:56 pm #

            But other races do? That makes you an anti-White bigot, a White Uncle Tom, a reverse Oreo.

          • Frankiti July 30, 2015 at 6:58 pm #

            Other “races” are species? You just don’t seem to have a place for facts in your rather pitiful life.

  91. wpa--ccc July 28, 2015 at 5:33 pm #

    But we we’ll be able to take some of them back in time as we took back Spain and the Balkans from the Musslemen.”–Janos

    LOL! You say the darnedest things, Janos! We? You and who else kimosabe? You, “whites” and western civilization are heading for a fall.


    • Janos Skorenzy July 28, 2015 at 7:05 pm #

      Indeed. After Blacks are given or take the Deep South for their nation, they will gradually lose it in inter-tribal conflict, famine, disease, etc. We will move in as they fall. In a couple of centuries or less, their remnants will only be found in the deepest cypress and mangrove swamps of the Mississippi Delta. They will look up and see our planes, satellites, and space craft flying overhead, and recall how they once live with the White Gods but betrayed them and were cast out.

  92. NorthernOutsider July 28, 2015 at 5:41 pm #

    So James if you believe Bernie hasn’t got the full story why don’t you set up a meeting with him and enlighten him. He may very well take your message to heart. It’s doubtful he’ll visit here to read it.

    • VCS July 28, 2015 at 8:22 pm #

      Yeah Jim — Maybe see if you could engage Berrnie in a dialog about the issues discussed here (but not by Finca or Janos!). Even devote a Monday missive to it — Hell, maybe (try to) interview all the candidates –??–

  93. BackRowHeckler July 28, 2015 at 6:50 pm #

    Yeah, I was right; something awful was brewing last nite on the streets of Hartford. Somebody torched an apt building not far from our plant, driving 25 families out into the street, and these people have large families. Arson is a favorite weapon used by certain communities from the Caribbean, less chance of getting caught and more effective than the second favorite weapon, the machete.

    I don’t know where these people will go; the city with the help of the Red Cross is scrambling to find places for them. Trouble is, more hopeful people from the 3rd world are arriving every day into this sanctuary city. We resemble a giant army, having lost the war, and whose mission it is is too care for its own wounded.

    This is city life in New England, c2015.

    How do you like it now, Gentlemen?


    • malthuss July 29, 2015 at 12:26 pm #

      You write like a latter day Hunter Thompson.

      Check a big book titled, ‘Worlds most Dangerous Places.’

  94. norecovery July 28, 2015 at 9:29 pm #

    No person of integrity wants to go to an early gravitas. The JFK example remains in place.

  95. fodase July 28, 2015 at 10:40 pm #

    there will always be those living books at the end of the train tracks, safeguarding humanity’s best thinkers and artists, for the remnants of a once-great civilization.


  96. Q. Shtik July 28, 2015 at 10:55 pm #

    Rather, he is able to assume those political positions that serve the moment, then discard them at will. – Greg Knepp


    Yeah, “a [foolish] consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.” Right up wpa–ccc’s alley.

  97. Buck Stud July 28, 2015 at 11:11 pm #

    “A couple/three months ago, while waiting interminably for my appointment date with my primary care doc (who is associated with a major hospital), my condition became sooo bad my wife rushed me to an urgent care clinic. I could hardly walk from the car to the clinic door. Turns out I had pneumonia. The pills he prescribed saved me and when my regular doc appointment came up she dealt with some related issues in the aftermath.”

    Well Q, in the future you won’t have to rely on your wife/automobile to get you to the emergency clinic: you can just smoke signal the local horseback courier to chase down the County Doc.

    And think of all the ancillary jobs/self-employment opportunities: horse shoe maker,leather doctor bag artisan,cane/ walking sticks maker for arthritic hip/knee sufferers; fiddle makers for the weekly Saturday Night hoedown and somebody is going to have to build the stage for the performers as well…

    Feeling better now?

  98. Q. Shtik July 28, 2015 at 11:42 pm #

    I realize that such talk can prove cumbersome for nonbelievers. – russ


    “cumbersome” doesn’t begin to cover it.

    . things of the spirit
    . resacralization
    . resanctification
    . the “prayer” of the “word”
    . reensoul

    Oh my *GOD* what a crock of mumbo jumbo.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 2:47 am #

      Yes, Christian apostates trying to use pop physics to create a religion. Surprised Danny is into this. Maybe there’s hope for him yet. In other words, maybe he has inwardly graduated from Orthodox Judaism but still practices outwardly for the sake of his family and community – much as you did with Catholicism for a time.

      • dannyboy July 29, 2015 at 12:40 pm #

        Wrong again about everything. I have repeatedly replied that I am not an Orthodox Jew, yet you continue on and on, and on, and on…

        • Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 3:33 pm #

          Oh, what kind of Judaism do you practice? Any? This is good news since the less fundamentalist you are, the more we can communicate. Fundies of whatever religion are hard to talk to, ultimately impossible. I’ve had many angry discussion with Christian Evangelicals and Hare Krishnas.

          I seem to remember you saying you were Orthodox to Q. I’ll have to go back and look. Or maybe Q will remember.

          What did the mutant say in the movie “Beneath the Planet of the Apes”? Something like, We are a peaceful people. We allow our enemies to defeat themselves.

          • dannyboy July 29, 2015 at 6:11 pm #

            I will patiently await your research.

  99. wpa--ccc July 29, 2015 at 12:03 am #

    The fire in Hartford was one of the worst fire disasters in the history of the United States. More than 165 people died and more than 700 were injured. Oh wait… that was 1944.

    “If we read of one man robbed, or murdered, or killed by accident, or one house burned, or one vessel wrecked, or one steamboat blown up, or one cow run over on the Western Railroad, or one mad dog killed, or one lot of grasshoppers in the winter, — we need never read of another. One is enough. If you are acquainted with the principle, what do you care for a myriad instances and applications?” –Thoreau

    1740s, 1840s, 1940s … same damn thing.

    How do you like it now, gentlemen?

    • elysianfield July 29, 2015 at 12:31 am #

      “1740s, 1840s, 1940s … same damn thing”.

      Population of the US

      1740 900K

      1840 17 Million

      1940 132 Million

      2015 330 Million

      Yes, same damn thing…only more of it…lots more of it….How do I like it? Not so much.

      • malthuss July 29, 2015 at 12:28 pm #

        1965? How many were we?

        As Ted Kennedy said, ‘only 6000 will make use of the new Immigration Act.’

        • elysianfield July 29, 2015 at 2:58 pm #

          “1965? How many were we?”

          Approaching 180 Million.

    • BackRowHeckler July 29, 2015 at 7:04 am #

      That circus fire was an accident. Two of my aunts were in attendance and got out alive.

      These fires in Hartford now are not accidents, they are willful, manifestations of an alien culture lifted out of Latin America and placed in Anglo New England.


      • malthuss July 29, 2015 at 12:29 pm #

        what did I miss?
        what Circus fire? when?

      • Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 2:40 pm #

        Yes, what the English were doing to the Colonists pales in comparison to this tyranny.

        Fire is a terrible weapon. We must build now in stone and brick.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 3:38 pm #

        One of my mother’s high school classmates died in the Coconut Grove fire. Can’t remember the exact death toll – well over a hundred I believe. After that, clubs always were built so the doors opened to the street.

  100. Valevapor July 29, 2015 at 12:20 am #

    “Almost nobody wants to even try to think about this.”

    This short sentence is the most powerful of this brilliant screed. It is the ultimate obstacle in redefining our world. Even those who see and agree have trouble overhauling their lives. Dragged kicking and screaming is probably the only way, alas…

  101. Sticks-of-TNT July 29, 2015 at 12:25 am #

    Heavy activity in response to JHK’s weekly epistle…316 comments by midnight day #2. Potemkin Party has struck a chord. The CFN troops are restless.

    Keep those cards and letters coming boys and girls!


  102. wpa--ccc July 29, 2015 at 12:26 am #

    Yeah, “a [foolish] consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.” Right up wpa–ccc’s alley. — Q.

    “When our life ceases to be inward and private, conversation degenerates into mere gossip. We rarely meet a man who can tell us any news which he has not read in a newspaper, or been told by his neighbor; and, for the most part, the only difference between us and our fellow is, that he has seen the newspaper, or been out to tea, and we have not. In proportion as our inward life fails, we go more constantly and desperately to the post-office.” –Thoreau

    Instead of post-office, today we could substitute, check our email, read blogs, FaceBook, Twitter, Skype, etc. … our new forms of gossip and “news”


  103. Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 2:58 am #

    Good article about the stage of awakening after Conservatism but before White Nationalism. About where BRH seems to be.


  104. Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 4:33 am #


    Kids thought they were going to a seminar about how to support Gay classmates – Fat Lesbian Chance.

  105. FincaInTheMountains July 29, 2015 at 7:15 am #

    Hillary Clinton’s campaign is in free-fall

    Hillary Clinton’s polls are crashing. The once inevitable shoe-in for the Democratic nomination is now trailing Republican candidates Bush, Walker and Rubio in critical swing states Colorado, Iowa and Virginia – after leading GOP contestants by a wide margin just a few months ago in various core states.


  106. FincaInTheMountains July 29, 2015 at 8:10 am #

    USAID has been caught with their pants down

    The Americans do not hide the fact that they’re dissatisfied with their NGOs in Armenia, who could not even with the financial and political support from Washington and the US Embassy in Yerevan adequately stir up society, as well as Arthur Sakuntsa, who supervised this activity.

    But they are not refusing to give up implementation of another “color” revolution in neighboring Azerbaijan, which will enable control by US corporations of the most of the Caspian basin.

    Mr. Artur Sakunts
    Helsinki Citizen’s Assembly Vanadzor Office
    59 Tigran Mets st
    Vanadzor, Armenia

    Dear Mr. Sakantus,
    I write to express my concerns over significant loss of momentum in Yerevan protests.

    Despite your assurances regarding the commitment of Armenian civil society to relentlessly defend their interests, the number of protests is decreasing, strident rhetoric is evolving into a peaceful dialog with the government, and political demands are being abandoned. Clearly, you have failed to take advantage of the resources provided to you. You have performed poorly, and the overall goals has not been achieved.

    Nevertheless, we believe it is unacceptable to cease activity in any of the previous agreed on sectors since it may disrupt events planned for Azerbaijan. You have to make every effort to fuel all forms of people’s protests. The project is a cornerstone of our regional strategy for near future. Your actions will determine our future cooperation.

    Karen R. Hilliard
    USAID Mission Director


  107. FincaInTheMountains July 29, 2015 at 8:41 am #

    Donald Trump’s Fortune: $10B Rounds Down to $2.9B

    July 28 — According to Donald Trump’s personal financial disclosure form, the Republican presidential hopeful has a net worth of $10 billion. Bloomberg crunched the numbers and determined Trumps fortune to be $2.9 billion. Bloomberg’s Caleb Melby breaks down Trump’s finances on “Bloomberg Surveillance.”


    What else the guy is lying about? Can’t wait till the guy “self-destructs” at some point in the future.

  108. capt spaulding July 29, 2015 at 9:04 am #

    Just read the news this morning. 2,000 migrants tried to storm the chunnel at Calais. The first stirrings of the tidal wave.

    • FincaInTheMountains July 29, 2015 at 9:19 am #

      Good. May be that will teach the EuroIdiots next time not to mess with African affairs, like they did in Libya.

  109. barbisbest July 29, 2015 at 9:26 am #

    Grandma Jill July 27, 2015 at 10:55 pm #

    ‘I hear you barbisbest. I’ve also been looking for other collapsetarians without much success. Get’s lonely without like-minded company.”

    Grandma Jill- Advice to the collapselorn. Have a garden if you can and if you desire. I have a garden, fig trees, berries. Other than, I try not to inflict the people around me too much about unpopular subjects or to worry. I’m lucky enough now to be able to read some good stuff, David C. Korten’s Change the Story, Change the Future, Kunstler, Peter Russell, Grace Lee Bogg’s The Next American Revolution, The Journey of Souls by Michael Newton, trying to make sense of the preternatural,Thom Hartmann and time to marvel at the wonder that is me, and you. Remember that others may be with you in spirit. Practice meditation.

    This is for you.. People travel to wonder at the height of mountains, at the huge waves of the sea, at the long courses of rivers, at the vast compass of the ocean, at the circular motion of the stars; and they pass by themselves without wondering.

  110. wpa--ccc July 29, 2015 at 11:17 am #

    The average American is responsible for emitting on the order of 16 metric tons of CO2 annually, whereas each of the 94 million Ethiopians produces only about a tenth of a ton. The government intends to slash even those emissions by two-thirds over the next 15 years, the most ambitious goal set by any country in the world.

    Ethiopia just opened its first major wind farm, the 153-megawatt facility at Adama. The Chinese-built turbines are the biggest such complex in sub-Saharan Africa. It plans a 300-megawatt plant near Djibouti. Such wind farms can be built in only two years, making them attractive to a country with no fossil fuels to speak of and a growing population, 75 percent of which lacks electricity.

    The landlocked country has also received $600 million in investment for a 300-megawatt solar power plant. Because getting the panels into the country through the port of Djibouti poses difficulties, there are also plans to build factories to construct solar panels.

    The country also plans a new hydroelectric dam near the Sudanese border, due to open in 2017, the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam hydropower project. It will generate a massive 6,000 megawatts of electricity. Some 98 percent of Ethiopia’s electricity comes from hydro.


  111. volodya July 29, 2015 at 11:32 am #


    OK, well, if using foreskins for cosmetics revolts you worse, then be my guest. I mean, when you think about it there’s even more repellent things than that. But, as you imply, “worse” is in the eye of the beholder.

    For instance, if you can justify using foreskins in cosmetics, then why not in pet food?

    Let’s play a game. Let’s pretend we’re Eleanor Clift or someone like her and that we’re all about steely-eyed, Vulcan, rationalism. I mean, the proponents of crush ’em and slice ’em would have us believe they’re all about science and facts and evidence. So let’s pretend we are too.

    Let’s start: what are we talking about after all? Proteins, amino acids, the stuff that all life is made of with minor variations from life-form to life-form, whether we’re talking about spinach or bananas or chicken or bonobos or people or (try not to barf) aborted fetuses. And we consume such stuff each and every day to stay alive. Don’t we?

    Still got your lunch? Good. There’s hope for you.

    Because I think you know where I’m going with this. If fetuses haven’t crossed the line to human-ness and can be disposed of at will, then why not follow the logic? Why just sell the fetal body parts to labs? Why not sell them to restaurants?

    I mean, why not? Fetuses are NOT human. Liberals insist on that last point. Liberals insist that they’re the only enlightened ones and shout day-in and day-out that anyone who disagrees must be an in-bred retard from deepest, darkest Texas.

    You wouldn’t want to be seen as a retard would you? So then tell me, why can’t properly educated people of refined liberal sensibilities have pickled or marinated or baked, boiled, broiled, sauteed fetus livers and brains? Yeah, I know, the thought is repulsive. To you and me maybe. But tastes vary don’t they? Let’s not be so judgmental. Isn’t judgmental-ism another one of those things that liberals say we shouldn’t do?

    Because liberals say that fetuses are not HUMAN damn it, they’ve spent who knows how much time and money and effort to establish that. And if they are NOT HUMAN then how can eating them be cannibalism?

    Bon appetit.

    Yeah, I know, maybe I’ve seen one too many episodes of Hannibal. But is there a depravity that can’t be brought within the bounds of wide acceptance and legality by medical ethicists? I mean, if they really try.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 2:46 pm #

      Feminists insist that women have the right to say who is human. If they want the baby, it is. If they don’t, it’s not. So since they hate men, why shouldn’t they say men aren’t human? Many already have, in almost as few words. One long cherished desire is to reduce men to 10% of the population. Breeding stock, essentially.

      • Frankiti July 29, 2015 at 5:27 pm #

        Or in your particular case, your mother had the peculiar situation of having initially said it was… and 7 years later claiming it wasn’t.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 5:44 pm #

          I’m not human because I want the human race to continue? Or because I want my branch of it to as well? Those don’t make me a monster but rather fully human. And I too mourn for Cecil the Lion. The beasts are our brothers just as many of our brothers are beasts.

          I hope you get the help you need Frankie.

          • Frankiti July 29, 2015 at 9:09 pm #

            There is no help needed. I am on another level.
            You are Australopithecus protesting, “progression, it will all cease here, with me”.
            It is difficult for the egomaniacal to contemplate the end… it’s your silver bullet and stake in the heart.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 10:58 pm #

            As Aquinas said, the purpose of grace is to perfect nature, not destroy it.

    • capt spaulding July 30, 2015 at 8:47 am #

      There are many drawbacks involved in using a foreskin.

      • volodya July 30, 2015 at 2:08 pm #

        No question.

  112. volodya July 29, 2015 at 11:39 am #

    So zerohedge is saying that Hillary just got a 600 dollar haircut at Bergdorf’s. I wonder how much of a tip she left.

    Tell me, why is Hillary not running as a Republican? Remind me, what’s the difference between her and Romney? Which one is richer BTW, Hillary or Mitt?

  113. volodya July 29, 2015 at 11:46 am #

    So Janos, what are you arguing, that the Soviets were worse butchers than the Germans? That to just darken the name of Germans of the 1930’s and 1940’s would be unjust without also darkening that of the Soviets/Russians for their own specific misdeeds? OK, I’ll buy that, you made your point.

    • FincaInTheMountains July 29, 2015 at 12:00 pm #

      “So Janos, what are you arguing, that the Soviets were worse butchers than the Germans? ”

      So far, Anglo Saxons have the cake.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 2:36 pm #

        The Soviets are the worst on paper, but Britain was taken over by the same tribe and the results weren’t pretty. Read about the Sassoon family and their desire to spread Opium all through China. The British Empire backed them with force – to their eternal shame. And it wasn’t enough that they forced the ports open – they then wanted to spread inland into regional centers – personally. In other words, they didn’t want any of the native Chinese sharing in the loathsome profits. So another Opium War was fought and China again lost. That the full fury of the Chinese people is no accident. And of course it was aimed towards Western Civilization – while the worst perpetrators got off as usual.

    • malthuss July 29, 2015 at 12:31 pm #

      So Janos, what are you arguing, that the Soviets were worse butchers than the Germans?
      Thats what the numbers show.

      • elysianfield July 29, 2015 at 3:16 pm #

        If I might interject… Worse butchers in what context? Efficiency, volume, cruelty, perversity? I would opine that the Japanese, and Africans, while less efficient, were more cruel and perverse…a few instances were recorded of ritualistic cannibalism during WWII and post-war Congo strife.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 11:42 pm #

      The slander of Whites really went into high gear with Goldhagen’s book about Germans being Hitler’s Willing Executioner’s. Well if so, Jews were Stalin’s Willing Executioner’s. No more slander against without a response. We aren’t going to let them and the Left do to us what they did to us in Russia.


  114. FincaInTheMountains July 29, 2015 at 12:57 pm #

    The unofficial recording of extraordinary meeting of the NATO at the request of Turkey

    The representative of Turkey: We have gathered you, ladies and gentlemen, to tell you the most unpleasant news – for Turkey there is a problem with international terrorism and the need to fight with it!

    The representative of the United States: Don’t look at us. We are 7 thousand miles from you. You don’t have the missile that could reach that far.

    The representative of Turkey: I’m not talking about you; I’m talking about the Kurds!

    The representative of the United States: Oops, sorry … You should’ve said from the beginning – the Kurds!

    The representative of Turkey: Yes, we have a problem! Kurds are really making a wet kish-mish from our guys from ISIL/ISIS/Daesh. And this is a problem. And we do not know what to do.

    The representative of France: Promise Kurds help, friendship, arms deliveries, take money from them – and then bomb the hell out of em!

    The representative of the USA: Naa, it aint gonna fly like the last time with Gaddafi, they’ve seen that trick already.

    The representative of France (upset): Sorry, c’est la vie … And it almost worked with Mistrals, by the way! However, now we need to give the money back…

    The representative of Germany (grimly): You better give it back to Russians. This is what we say to you as historians since 1945.

    Representative of Greece: Gentlemen, could someone loan me a $50? I promised my daughter to bring a souvenir from Turkey. I pay it back, swear to Hercules!

    The representative of Germany (grimly): Sure, we trust you.

    The representative of Italy: lets invite the heads of the Kurds to a friendly meeting, after meeting we give them a hug, a kiss, saying, “You are now our brothers!”. And then suddenly let’s beat the shit out of them with bats or strangle in a car.

    The representative of the United States: Just like in Godfather 3?

    The representative of Italy: No, I think that was in Godfather 1.

    The representative of the United States: Let’s not reinvent the wheel. Let’s send another Malaysian Boeing to Kurds and shoot it down. All hang everything on the Kurds.

    The representative of Netherlands: Again?!

    The representative of the USA: What’s the matter? Have we run out of Dutch or something?

    The representative of Netherlands: Oh, please, not again…

    The representative of the USA: Ok, Ok, just kidding. Besides, can’t be done without those morons Ukrainians, and as far as I know there aint many of em in the area…

    The representative of Spain (indignantly): I am disgusted by listening to you, ladies and gentlemen!

    The representative of the USA: Basques

    The representative of Spain (choking): When do we start?

    The representative of the United Kingdom: Listening to you and wonder. Can’t we just murder all of the Kurds? Well, or starve them to death. Here, I remember in 1943 in India…

    The representative of Turkey (grimly): Kurds are nearly thirty percent of the population of Turkey

    The representative of the United Kingdom: Wow! I did not know. Sorry…

    The representative of Turkey: And we are sorry too. And there is Assad and his Syrians and Putin.

    The representative of the United States: Putin? Oops, gotta go. At the granddaughter’s birthday, it’s important. Hey you Turks, cheer up, will you! We will certainly help you!

    The representative of Turkey (perplexed): Where are you all going? And how about us?! We are together since 1952! Together we bombed Belgrade, Libya and Iraq. You did say that if they shoot at us – they will get at you! We’re alone among the Kurds, Persians, Syrians, Chinese, and Putin is already talking with chill in his voice!

    The last words of Turkish Defense Minister sounded in the empty room.

    Only the representative of Greece pulling by the sleeve and asked:

    – Well, how about $10 bucks? Could you spare that much?

  115. BackRowHeckler July 29, 2015 at 3:54 pm #

    At the behest of the lefty governor the dem supermajority voted to give illegals driver licenses, assuring us it would only be a few thousand handed out, “so they can drive to their jobs”. Wait a minute, I thought it was illegal for them to have jobs? No matter. So far 100,000 have signed up in 3 weeks. The system is overwhelmed and was shut down, maybe for a week, maybe forever. The state is at a standstill.


    • BackRowHeckler July 29, 2015 at 3:55 pm #

      How do you like it now, Gentlemen?


  116. Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 4:30 pm #


    Government can’t protect us – or wont protect us? And in that distinction lies a tale. Worst case survivalism.

  117. Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 4:44 pm #

    Young women see vocal fry as world weary and therefore sophisticated. In other words, they’re bored with their own boring little nylons and nails type life but they’ll carry on for the rest of us!


    I want payback for this Q. Help on the Danny question specifically.

    • dannyboy July 29, 2015 at 6:19 pm #

      Patiently awaiting The Final Solution to the Danny question.

      • elysianfield July 29, 2015 at 8:02 pm #

        “Patiently awaiting The Final Solution to the Danny question.”

        Kidney denied….

        • Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 8:04 pm #

          Lolocoaster crash. One red sea pedestrian hurt.

  118. FincaInTheMountains July 29, 2015 at 6:32 pm #

    China is building PetroYuan

    For the first time, information on serious plans of China to host the center of the oil pricing leaked to the US media in 2012. Rumors of these plans went before, but three years ago they began to take shape in a more or less concrete plan of actions. It took another three years for the Communist Party of China to choose one of two options for attacks on American hegemony in terms of exchange trade in oil. A few days ago the decision was made and announced in the media.
    From the Chinese point of view, the existing structure of trade in oil has some very unpleasant flaws.

    Problem No. 1: The main mechanism of global oil pricing mechanism is firmly tied to the US Mercantile Exchange NYMEX, to the little town of Cushing (Oklahoma) and grade of oil West Texas Intermediate better known as Light Sweet. The result is a situation where the price of oil, which is imported by China, is determined by the market situation in a completely different place in the world and it’s a price for oil grade other than that is consumed in China.

    Problem number 2: Oil is traded in dollars. About petrodollars already written so much that it makes no sense to repeat, but we could emphasize an important point. The existence of petrodollars – one of the factors that allows the United States to take certain liberties with its debt load, as oil-exporting countries, “park” their dollar revenues in dollar financial instruments, and consumer countries create additional demand for dollars. Reducing the use of the dollar for international trade in general and oil in particular, on the one hand causes some damage to the United States, on the other hand benefits the country issuing the currency which replaces the dollar.

    Here come into play those two options, which the Communist Party of China was trying to select among. Option 1 (soft) anticipated launch of oil futures in China, with reference to the delivery contract in China and a “cocktail” of Chinese oil grades and weighted average price of imported varieties. This pricing was kept in dollars. It is evident that it was a half-measure, but its administration sharply reduced the chances of a painful reaction from the United States.

    Option 2 (hard) involves not only the geographical reference of a new contract to Chinese realities, but also transfer pricing to yuan. But this is a serious bid to undermine the petrodollar, especially given the fact that China is a major importer of oil.

    A few days ago, after two years of discussions in the Chinese Securities Commission, representatives of the Central Bank of China said that the decision was made. China has chosen a hard one: on the Shanghai Commodity Exchange will launch futures on oil for delivery in China based on a “cocktail” of Shengli Oil Field plus 6 imported varieties, and (most importantly) pricing will be in RMB. In order to deal became truly global, foreign companies and investors will be admitted to trading and Chinese banks will open special accounts in yuan.

    Chinese media indicate that the test trading will begin in 3 months, and foreign media consensus is that a realistic deadline to fully run oil futures – the beginning of 2016.

    Those who wish to tell that oil always “will be at $40, $30, $20, $10” I want to just point out that the greedy Chinese buying oil at current prices with both hands and filling all pots and pans with it.

    For the sake of completeness, it should be noted that China has made another major move on another front. Judging by the statements of the LME (London Metal Exchange), the yuan will be accepted as collateral for banks and brokers who sell industrial metals on the world’s main trading floor, which again opens the way for cutting demand for the dollar.


  119. wpa--ccc July 29, 2015 at 7:15 pm #

    “China is building PetroYuan” –Finca

    Just as petrol is on its way out… China missed the 100 year long party.

  120. FincaInTheMountains July 29, 2015 at 7:41 pm #

    “Just as petrol is on its way out…”

    Oh, how could I have forgotten? We soon going to produce energy from body sh*t by a teaspoon and sell it at 10-mile waiting queues.

  121. wpa--ccc July 29, 2015 at 8:14 pm #

    “Oh, how could I have forgotten?” — Finca

    You never knew, apparently. You provide no facts to disprove my claim. Finca, you cannot deny the move is already underway to abandon oil. Solar is now so cheap that global adoption appears unstoppable. In 2013, just 12 percent of U.S homebuilders offered solar panels as an option for new single-family homes. More than half of them anticipate doing so by 2016. Four of the top five U.S. home construction firms – DR Horton, Lennar Corp, PulteGroup and KB Home – now automatically include solar panels on every new house in certain markets.

    In 2007 there were only 8,000 rooftop solar installations in coal-heavy Australia; now there are over a million. Saudi Arabia has 41,000 megawatts of solar PV operating, under construction and planned – enough to generate up to two thirds of the country’s electricity.

    For the roughly 1.3 billion people without access to electricity, it is now often cheaper and more efficient simply to install solar panels rooftop-by-rooftop than to build a central power plant and transmission infrastructure. That is just the way it is, Finca.

    Wind power adoption is rapidly altering energy portfolios around the world. China is now generating more electricity from wind farms than from nuclear plants, and should have little trouble meeting its official 2020 wind power goal of 200,000 megawatts. For perspective, that would be enough to satisfy the annual electricity needs of Brazil.

    Wind energy yield per acre is off the charts. For example, a farmer in northern Iowa could plant an acre in corn that would yield enough grain to produce roughly $1,000 worth of fuel-grade ethanol per year, or the farmer could put on that same acre a turbine that generates $300,000 worth of electricity per year. Farmers typically receive $3,000 to $10,000 per turbine each year in royalties. As wind farms spread across the U.S. Great Plains, wind royalties for many ranchers will exceed their earnings from cattle sales. That is just the way it is, Finca.

    National and subnational energy policies are promoting renewables, and many geographies are considering a price on carbon. Some 37 countries, including the US, have national production or investment tax credits for renewable energy. Some 40 countries have either implemented or are planning national carbon pricing mechanisms. A May 2014 World Bank report counted a further 23 subnational jurisdictions pricing carbon. Seven regional cap-and-trade pilot programs are already under way in China, for example. When China rolls out its planned national cap-and-trade program in 2016, roughly a quarter of global carbon emissions will then be priced. That is just the way it is, Finca.

    The financial sector is embracing renewables – and starting to turn against fossils and nuclear. The financial services firm Barclays downgraded the entire U.S. electricity sector in 2014, in part because in its view U.S. utilities are generally unprepared for the challenges posed by distributed solar power and battery storage. Large investment institutions, such as Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs, are channeling tens of billions of dollars into renewable energy. Stuart Bernstein, who coordinates Goldman’s investment in this area, talks about “a transformational moment in time” as renewable energy takes off. Thinking long-term by investing in the transition to a cleaner energy future, he says, “will be important from a societal perspective, and it will be good business for us and our clients.” That is just the way it is, Finca.

    Coal use is in decline in the United States and will likely fall at the global level far sooner than once thought possible. U.S. coal use is dropping – it fell 21 percent between 2007 and 2014 – and more than one-third of the nation’s coal plants have already closed or announced plans for future closure in the last five years. The Stowe Global Coal Index – a composite index of companies from around the world whose principal business involves coal – dropped 70 percent between April 2011 and September 2014. That is just the way it is, Finca.

    Transportation will move away from oil as electric vehicle fleets expand rapidly and bike- and car-sharing spreads. Bike-sharing programs have sprung up worldwide in recent years. The share of carless households increased in 84 out of 100 U.S. urban areas surveyed between 2006 and 2011. And as urbanization increases, this share will only rise. Car-sharing programs are expanding rapidly. Ultimately EVs and PHEVs will challenge the dominance of traditional gasoline- and diesel-powered vehicles, and this may happen sooner than most people realize. That is just the way it is, Finca.

    Nuclear is on the rocks due to rising costs and widespread safety concerns. For the world as a whole, nuclear power generation peaked in 2006, and dropped by nearly 14 percent by 2014. In the United States, the country with the most reactors, nuclear generation peaked in 2010 and is now also on the decline. That is just the way it is, Finca.


  122. Reagan July 29, 2015 at 9:46 pm #

    Bruce Jenner should be the Democratic nominee for President. He represents all that is wrong with the Democrats and much of the country today. He is undergoing a massive identity crisis, and is a completely confounded, confused, and scatterbrained man. He has made a circus clown show of himself. However, isn’t this the left? No morals, no God, no ethics, no responsibility, and no love for wife and children who are left behind befuddled. The Republican nominee will be Donald Trump. Say what you want about him – huge ego, talking machine, etc., etc., – he was given a nice start in life by his father and he made the most of it. He is smarter than most — shown by his success — and at least tells it like it is. I suppose he could be the Republican version of Mr. Kunstler, as both say the things others think.

  123. PeteAtomic July 29, 2015 at 9:47 pm #

    Thanks again Mr. Jim for a great summation of ideas here.

    The break down of the big boxes would be a great start. Small towns all across the country would have the possibility of rebuilding their downtown spaces, and giving their citizens, who are now too often languishing in a dominant big box retailer, a shot at small business ownership.

  124. Pucker July 29, 2015 at 10:25 pm #

    Dmitry Orlov in his recent blog entry ( http://www.cluborlov.com ) makes the interesting observation that in the US now it’s ok for the system to use blacks as prison slave labor and to kill blacks, but it’s not ok to refer to blacks as “negroes”. (Of course, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr referred to black people as “negroes”.). Bizarre….

  125. Pucker July 29, 2015 at 10:32 pm #

    Poor Catherine Austin Fitts. A brilliant, honest woman reduced to discussing serious issues (affecting the daily lives of average, hard working people) on UFO websites.

    She always tells the following hilarious joke in relation to the US government dealing drugs to fund the Black Budget, but no one ever laughs: “The Soccer Moms can’t get Tony Soprano out of their neighborhood because if they tried, then James Bond would drop out of the sky on top of them.”

    • Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 11:04 pm #

      You’re one of the good ones, Puck. I expect to have good conversations with you on board the Mother Ship once the X Men pick us up. Don’t worry, the armada is approaching and the Chosen will be swooped up into the aire before the destruction. Everything is working according to plan. Don’t let the Greys get you in the meantime. They’re working with the you know whos.

      • malthuss July 30, 2015 at 5:55 pm #

        So ‘UFO Believers’ may be smarter than the rest of the population,
        in that they will listen to Ms Fitts?

  126. Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 11:07 pm #


    There are no words. How can we possible convince our less intellectual brethren that Obama isn’t a Muslim now? He might as well be.

  127. Q. Shtik July 29, 2015 at 11:25 pm #

    So zerohedge is saying that Hillary just got a 600 dollar haircut at Bergdorf’s. – Volodya


    My daughter, Maggie just started a new job at Bergdorf last week. Friday was her 5th day on the job. I wondered if this Hillary visit to her store impacted her in any way. Here is our verbatim text conversation from this afternoon:

    Q: See email I just sent you (a link to a news story about the $600 haircut)

    Mag: Okay

    Mag: Haha! I remember when that elevator was shit down for a while for her.. we all had to wait extra long for the one employee elevator that remained

    Q: SHIT down?

    Mag: Damn auto correct

    Mag: I mentioned it to the sales girls and they said she gets her hair done here all the time, gets it done for free, and that Monica Lewinsky also does her hair here and has the same exact cut as Hilary

    Q: Hmm interesting. P.S. Hillary is spelled with 2 Ls.

  128. Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 11:28 pm #


    Bernie’s talking Really Old Socialism as in National Socialism – the kind we had back before the Marxists poisoned the whole thing.

  129. Q. Shtik July 29, 2015 at 11:37 pm #

    He is smarter than most — shown by his success — and at least tells it like it is. – Reagan


    Decide from this if he “tells it like it is.”


    • Janos Skorenzy July 29, 2015 at 11:43 pm #

      I’m glad Ron is back with us from the grave. How about that Danny?

    • Reagan July 30, 2015 at 6:32 am #

      I clicked on your link and saw it went directly to the useless NYT. No sense reading that version of the leftist Enquirer, as it will be a hit piece on any conservative. If you like links, here is one for your enjoyment: http://thepeoplescube.com/

      • pequiste July 30, 2015 at 11:00 pm #

        Oh yes — this website: it’s a fave!

  130. Q. Shtik July 30, 2015 at 12:04 am #

    I want payback for this Q. Help on the Danny question specifically. – Janos


    Thank God somebody is trying to do something about vocal fry and up talk. I am sick to death of dealing with young women on the phone who sound like little 5 year old girls.

    As to Dannyboy’s orthodoxy or lack thereof……. my recollection is that he responded to my question in a rather non-committal way but I got the impression that he’s on the non-orthodox side of the spectrum. Putting it in practical terms I doubt he wears a black suit and hat outside when its 90 degrees, doesn’t have those curly locks hanging down from his temples and would not ask the goy kid next door to throw a light switch for him on the Sabbath.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 30, 2015 at 2:06 am #

      Rats! I could have sworn he said he was Orthodox. Maybe the old Gulliver is playing tricks on me. I’ll have to go back and check before I concede though.

      Have a little more patience Dan. Your case is pending.

  131. Pucker July 30, 2015 at 12:18 am #

    I had to deactivate my FuckBook account as I was getting too much junk mail.

  132. Pucker July 30, 2015 at 12:38 am #

    According to the book “Battle Cry of Freedom”, Brigham Young had 55 wives, and he legalized slavery in Utah. Slavery is basically people as property, which logically results in the breeding of people to increase the owner’s wealth, right? In countries where the slave trade was legal male slaves overwhelmingly outnumbered female slaves. In contrast, the US had a balance of male and female slaves for breeding purposes. One can deduce from this fact that the economic function of females is to breed. I get the impression from the book that even the Northern Abolitionists wanted to end slavery not so much because they commiserated with black people, but rather because they wanted to stop the progressive population of the country with negroes?

    • malthuss July 30, 2015 at 5:57 pm #

      More Blacks have moved to USA since 1965 than were here 100 years prior.

      Blacks loving the land of the White devil.

  133. Pucker July 30, 2015 at 1:06 am #

    From the perspective of the worker, slavery is the boss or master breeding you and confiscating your children and the boss pays you nothing. Wage labor involves the boss paying you as little as possible and the boss doesn’t want the cost of you breeding. It would be interesting to know how the government taxed slavery? Slaves have no income, and, therefore can’t be taxed. Nor can slaves be used as cannon fodder in wars since it would mean the destruction of private property without compensation.

  134. Pucker July 30, 2015 at 1:08 am #

    Lincoln probably recognized that once you free ’em, then you can kill ’em?

  135. Pucker July 30, 2015 at 1:30 am #

    Whatever happened to the Chinese start up company that developed a patented process for genetically engineering cows to produce human milk to be used to make a new brand of human breast milk ice cream?

  136. FincaInTheMountains July 30, 2015 at 3:38 am #

    “You never knew, apparently. You provide no facts to disprove my claim.” == wpa

    According to US Energy Information Administration, solar in 2014 constitutes an impressive 0.4% of total power generation in US – and that does not count the fact that solar must be backed up by conventional sources of power for continues use.


    • cbeard July 31, 2015 at 2:49 pm #

      Electric power generation is big business. All the major utility companies have been doing all they could to stop solar power. The Southern Co. (Ga., Fl., Al., Ms. etc) has in the past done nothing but obstruct solar power use. Sooner or later they will figure out a way to cash in on it, or bribe enough politicians to obtain the same result. If everyone in the sweet sunny South had solar panels on the roof it would at least cut their energy bill in half. The Southern Co. and the local, regional EMC providers constantly put out propaganda and lies about solar energy and the masses seem to believe it. Sooner or later it will be inevitable. Solar power will see widespread use. Of course it should be backed up by conventional power sources, but we would need a lot less of such and wouldn’t need new nuclear boondoggles like Ga. Power Co. is presently building in Baxley, Ga.

  137. Pucker July 30, 2015 at 4:07 am #

    If you want to have a strong central government, asset strip the population and finance empire, then you’d have to end slavery. But you might want to get a second opinion from Dr. Kevorkian?

  138. FincaInTheMountains July 30, 2015 at 4:13 am #

    Coup d’Etat in Washington: While Obama Visits Africa, ISIS Czar Allen Rams Through No Fly Buffer Zone in Northern Syria, Protecting ISIS Supply Line from Kurds; Obama Must Fire Allen Now!


    US “Party of war” strikes back?

  139. BackRowHeckler July 30, 2015 at 7:41 am #

    Down in Hartford no longer are there any convenience stores, corner markets, local grocers, shops etc., no, every place is a ‘Bodega’ now, with bars on the windows, a security door covered with gang graffiti, a prominent sign proclaiming ‘We Accept Food Stamps’, and a pit bull behind the counter with the owner. Not too inviting to be sure, but the only game in town since the supermarkets were burned down in the riots of ’68 (those halcyon days! Panthers on the prowl!) never to be rebuilt.

    Well, it was at one of these Bodegas last nite that DeShawn Brown (not his real name) took 3 rounds to the chest and one to the head. Remarkably, he’s still alive, fighting to survive at Hartford Hospital, no doubt at tax payer expense.

    Is this what collapse looks like? Or should I be looking at GDP numbers and the price of commodities? Nothing to see here, look the other way, see there’s Tom Brady on the news talking about a deflated football.

    How do you like it now, Gentlemen?



    • stelmosfire July 30, 2015 at 10:41 am #

      Look at this list Marlin, Societal collapse in progress. New Haven and Hartford No. 3 and 4, with my neck of the woods Springfield, MA. at no. 6. I don’t go there after dark. Sootings and stabbigs guarenteed every weekend.


      • BackRowHeckler July 30, 2015 at 11:16 am #

        What’s happening in Westfield?

        Not as bad? I notice some of the street signs and business advertising is no longer in English.


        • stelmosfire July 30, 2015 at 11:40 am #

          Westfield is pretty quiet. Big news here is some Ahole zip tied a cats legs together and tossed the poor thing in te river.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 30, 2015 at 3:15 pm #

        I was at the bus station in Springfield once and it was nothing but Blacks. What brought them all there? Industry now gone I suppose? What an absolute curse. What madness possessed people to bring them North? Karma. The North must pay for what it did to the South. Whom the gods wish to kill they first drive mad.

        • malthuss July 30, 2015 at 5:58 pm #


          • Janos Skorenzy July 30, 2015 at 7:07 pm #

            No, Massachusetts.

  140. wpa--ccc July 30, 2015 at 10:42 am #

    Finca: “According to US Energy Information Administration, solar in 2014 constitutes an impressive 0.4% of total power generation in US”

    Finca, my post included solar as only one of many non-fossil fuel sources of energy. From the link you provided:

    In 2014, the United States generated about 4,093 billion kilowatthours of electricity.1 About 67% of the electricity generated was from fossil fuels (coal, natural gas, and petroleum).

    100% minus 67% means 33% of energy in the USA is now provided by non-fossil fuel sources, and the renewables are growing rapidly now that they are price competitive with fossil fuels.

    Thanks for providing the link, Finca. 33% today. 50% and more soon. Renewables with zero emissions are the future… not fossil fuels.


  141. FincaInTheMountains July 30, 2015 at 10:52 am #

    What is U.S. electricity generation by energy source?

    Coal = 39%
    Natural gas = 27%
    Nuclear = 19%
    Hydropower = 6%
    Other renewables = 7% (such as waves, tides – basically hydro)
    Biomass = 1.7% (that’s your energy from sh*t by a teaspoon)
    Geothermal = 0.4%
    Solar = 0.4%
    Wind = 4.4%
    Petroleum = 1% (for those suckers who purchased solar panels and now have to have gasoline generators for a backup)
    Other gases < 1%

    Solar is in the range of statistical error, basically non-existent, except for merry inhabitants of San Francisco.

    Source: http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=427&t=3

    • barbisbest July 30, 2015 at 12:00 pm #

      FincalntheMountains – this country is woefully behind in the generation of power by renewables. Portugal has more than the U.S.. It’s rather pathetic.

      • FincaInTheMountains July 30, 2015 at 12:13 pm #

        What is pathetic is to think that so-called renewable power generation could provide for industrial society, or even for minimum civilization. The real renewable is only in advanced nuclear reactors.

  142. nsa July 30, 2015 at 11:01 am #

    Mex Black Tar Heroin Epidemic UPDATE: last week a couple of fat 20 something beaner perp fucks in a new mercedes got hosed ghetto style on I-5 just outside Mt. Vermin (as the locals call it). The freeway was closed in the northerly direction for the state patrol homicide investigation, with traffic stacking up at the college way exit. In the southerly direction, a senile piloting a cement truck had a “medical event”, crossed the center divider, and plowed through the college way crawlers like bowling pins. Time to build a 20′ concrete wall along the southern border and top it off with razor wire…….

  143. barbisbest July 30, 2015 at 11:39 am #

    This post makes me think about the idea that we were all taught or made to believe, Government works for you. (cough,cough)

    To the person who shot Cecil the Lion, you are nothing but a piece of crap. No apology, an angel made me do it.

  144. wpa--ccc July 30, 2015 at 11:51 am #

    Time to build a 20′ concrete wall… –nsa

    That is what tunnels are for… 1,500 long tunnels…


  145. wpa--ccc July 30, 2015 at 12:08 pm #

    The ins and outs of U.S.-Mexico border tunnels


    Building walls is a waste of taxpayer money. Anyone who wants into the USA can get in… by land, by water, by air. I welcome immigrants, both legal and illegal.


    • Cavepainter July 30, 2015 at 5:17 pm #

      Oh, I get it; national destiny should default to however many foreign nationals decide to ignore our immigration laws, not remain an entitlement choice of citizenship as intended by the Constitution and the process of representative democracy — oh, you know, that 2500 years of social progress and political process. Hmmm, gon’na be hard for our elected representative (Congress) to estimate budgets for maintaining physical infrastructure and social services if unlimited numbers of foreign nationals keep arriving to utilize and access them. Damn!, Do you suppose immigration policy has something to do with maintaining a 1st World standard of governance and quality of life? Oh, well.

  146. FincaInTheMountains July 30, 2015 at 12:30 pm #

    “FincalntheMountains – this country is woefully behind..” — barbisbest

    What this country (the US) is known for is that US have two sets of knowledge for everything: one for stupid aborigines around the US colonies and another for domestic consumption by technocratic professionals.

    Unfortunately, some of the US non-professional natives gets so excited about the “science” that was developed to stop idiot-aborigines in their development tracks, that they start to shoot their mouths about something they have no idea about.

    In economy, it is “invisible hand of the market”, “free market”, “Central Bank fights inflation” and lots of other stupid things, in energy – solar and wind as “renewables”.

  147. wpa--ccc July 30, 2015 at 1:04 pm #

    Germany’s transition from coal- and oil-fired power to carbon-free electricity hit a new milestone on July 25 when solar, wind, and other sources of renewable [“alternative,” OK Finca?] energy met 78 percent of the day’s energy demand.

    Germany’s experience shows that solar and wind can keep the lights on in a highly industrialized nation, said Osha Gray Davidson, author of Clean Break, a book about Germany’s transition to carbon-free energy. “The key indicator is percentage of electricity produced by different sources—28 percent of Germany’s electricity comes from renewables annually, which is pretty amazing for large industrialized country,” Davidson said.


    • barbisbest July 30, 2015 at 1:18 pm #

      wpa-ccc- In that regard, Germany rocks. This country just isn’t up with it! We’re so far behind. We, the people, shouldn’t have to rally for renewable energy, that should be given, as it is in Germany!

  148. barbisbest July 30, 2015 at 1:13 pm #

    This one’ s a tear jerker. What kind of species are we? I ask. Not only are we hell bent on killing ourselves with climate change and so on, but we have to kill other species, lions in Africa!!!!!!!!!! Who can think about this lion in Africa without a tear coming to their eye?!?! What kind of a monster does this?

    How many elephants have to be slaughtered on the African continent? Elephants who mourn their dead!! Another decade and there won’t be any African elephants on that continent!!! I can’t even imagine a world without wild elephants there!!!!!

    This species doesn’t know how to live, that’s why we need more and more and more to live!! To have lion’s heads mounted on the wall to show how special we are, when in fact it’s the opposite. Disgusting.

    • BackRowHeckler July 30, 2015 at 1:24 pm #

      Pretty soon all the wildlife in Africa will be gone.

      The Chinese have a hankering for Rhino Horns, can’t get enough.

      The Kilashnikov rifle is ubiqutious — 150 million have been manufactured since 1947 — and many have ended up in Africa.

      That’s what’s slaughtering the animals in Africa. It just took a bonehead dentist from Minnesota to focus a spotlight on it.


      • malthuss July 30, 2015 at 5:44 pm #

        Remember a song, ‘We Are The World’?
        Save Ethiopians from their commie dictator.

        1985 – population of Ethiopia? And now its population is what?

        Its predicted Nigeria will have a billion people.
        A billion ‘useless eaters.’

        Nigeria will not be allowed to get that populous.

      • cbeard July 31, 2015 at 3:03 pm #

        The bonehead used a bow and arrow and the big cat suffered for 41 hours before he was found and dispatched.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 30, 2015 at 3:11 pm #

      Yes, very sad. And only Whites care. The Black Africans would eat them all up in a day if Whites weren’t protecting them with money and their prestige.

      Blacks don’t love nature – they are nature. They don’t want to go hiking because they are afraid of snakes. Beyond that, there’s nothing in it for them. Few of them find nature beautiful like we do.
      Same with Hispanics. They like parks so they can have huge cookouts in them with hundreds of people. But nature itself? Just something to kill and eat.

      We are in Kali Yuga, Barb – the end of this Age. It will only get worse before it gets better. Much worse. And one of the symptoms of Kali Yuga is the explosion in population of the lower races – much as Deer do without predators after we have shot them all. Likewise, the Blacks and Browns have exploded in population due to our unwise charity.

      As you know, the founder of Planned Parenthood, your hero Margaret Sanger felt exactly the same way.

      • malthuss July 30, 2015 at 5:45 pm #

        our unwise charity/

        And immigration. As you know all too well.

  149. BackRowHeckler July 30, 2015 at 1:19 pm #

    Looks like young Bernie Sanders supporters very similar to Obama enthusiasts in 08, the same beatific look, the dreamy eyes, the enthusiasm … Well who wouldn’t be enthusiastic, what with free college tuition, $15 per hour minimum wage, free medical care … what’s not to like?


    • FincaInTheMountains July 30, 2015 at 2:13 pm #

      Gross electricity production

      Lignite 25.4%
      Nuclear energy 15.8%
      Hard coal17.8
      Natural gas 76.4 12.1 67.5 10.7 58.3 9.5
      Mineral oil products 7.6 1.2 7.2 1.1 6.0 1.0
      Renewable energy sources 143.8 22.8 152.4 24.1 160.6 26.2
      Wind power 50.7 8.0 51.7 8.1 56.0 9.1
      Water power2 22.1 3.5 23.0 3.6 20.5 3.3
      Biomass energy 39.7 6.3 41.2 6.5 43.0 7.0
      Photovoltaic energy 26.4 4.2 31.0 4.9 34.9 5.7
      Household waste3 5.0 0.8 5.4 0.9 6.1 1.0
      Other energy sources 25.7 4.1 26.2 4.1 27.2 4.3

      • FincaInTheMountains July 30, 2015 at 2:27 pm #

        Above post is a typo…

  150. barbisbest July 30, 2015 at 2:03 pm #

    ‘ Pretty soon all the wildlife in Africa will be gone.

    The Chinese have a hankering for Rhino Horns, can’t get enough.

    The Kilashnikov rifle is ubiqutious — 150 million have been manufactured since 1947 — and many have ended up in Africa.

    That’s what’s slaughtering the animals in Africa. It just took a bonehead dentist from Minnesota to focus a spotlight on it.’

    Thanks BRH. A lady in distress. Do tears count for anything anymore. I never could stand ivory, the feel or the look of it. Even as a girl, I knew where it belonged.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 30, 2015 at 2:59 pm #

      No doubt you feel the same way about leather and have eschewed leather handbags and shoes your entire adult life. Right?

      Let’s face it: Lions are special in their beauty and nobility. People are never going to care as much about a chicken or a cow – especially since were raised to be used like this. Add to this the fact that Lions are very rare and it all becomes clear: the hunting should stop. Deer, though beautiful, are plentiful and quickly over populate – thus the hunting should continue. Radical animal right people wont like it, but the don’t like the human race at all and would force vegetarianism on us. Some great Teachers (including Hitler) have taught this, but it’s not something that can be forced on people.

      Did you hear about the very strange case in Europe involving Marius the Giraffe? The zoo (in Denmark I believe) said they didn’t need Marius for the breeding program they were doing so they put him down despite massive protest. Very strange because the whole point of the program was supposed to be about preserving this species – and they end up killing one because it didn’t fit into their program. The means have supplanted the end and become an end in themselves. I’m sure some zoo could have been found that would have been very happy to have Marius.

      Rush asked a good question: Did Cecil know that his name was Cecil? Did he know he was a Lion? Undoubtedly not – but I’m sure he valued his own life and knew that he was beautiful. Cats do.

      • malthuss July 31, 2015 at 12:39 am #

        Similarly every celebrity in Hollywood has rushed to publish some sappy tweet about the horrors of shooting a lion. In fact shooting old male lions is a good policy. It’s good for the people – hunters and local natives – and it’s good for the lions as a pride and individually.

        Lions live differently from other big cats. Leopards and tigers are solitary hunters but lions are social beings. The web says lions live about 14 years in the wild and Cecil was only 13. But that’s for a female lion. The males only live to about ten. Cecil was a very old male lion.

        A pride of lions is a group of female hunters who are periodically captured by a pair of males usually brothers. The bigger less agile males are not well adapted for bringing down antelope. They are optimized for fighting with other male lions over sexual rights to the females.

        After a few years as the dominant males of pride, another pair of male lions – younger and stronger – will evict them. Without a group of females to hunt for them the ousted males slowly decline. They starve to death or turn man eater.

        Cecil had had his time on earth. He had passed on this genes. Nature was done with him. We shouldn’t get all misty about old Cecil. Being a male lion is a good life – plenty of sex, the ‘lions share’ of the meat, and you just lounge around in the sun most of the time. But it doesn’t last forever.

        Nature is through with ten year old male lions, but human society still has a use for them. They provide income for the natives and sport for the ‘white hunters’. Cecil provided news stories for the silly and sentimental too.

        Cecil was not a house cat. He was a wild animal and he lived by wild animal rules. Dying in a hunt was a better end than he could have expected from nature. Cecil and his brother probably ran off another pair of males a few years ago and took over the pride. If you want to wax sympathetic over the plight of old lions – feel for them, not Cecil. They starved to death and the bugs ate their carcasses with no Hollywood celebrities to mourn them.’

  151. volodya July 30, 2015 at 2:05 pm #

    So Hillary gets her hair done for free at Bergdorf’s.

    OK, but does she tip the hairdresser? Or does the schnook work for nothing? Sounds to me like he/she does it for nothing. Given that Hill and Bill made so many millions since they vacated the Big House couldn’t Hillary just bloody insist on paying?

    Does Monica get hers done for free? Somehow I doubt it. And can she not find somewhere else to get it done? Can she bloody afford Bergdorfs? Can you imagine a chance encounter between Monica and Hillary? A cell-phone vid of that would be worth MILLIONS.

    • Q. Shtik July 30, 2015 at 3:05 pm #

      Frankly Vol, even though this report arrived directly from my own daughter I doubt that Hillary’s cut was free. This is urban legend stuff that is born and thrives in the minds of retail clerks.

  152. FincaInTheMountains July 30, 2015 at 2:23 pm #

    “Germany’s transition from coal- and oil-fired power to carbon-free electricity hit a new milestone on July 25 when solar, wind, and other sources of renewable [“alternative,” OK Finca?] energy met 78 percent of the day’s energy demand.”

    Gross electricity production, Germany, 2014:

    Lignite (gray coal) 25.4%
    Nuclear energy 15.8%
    Hard coal 17.8%
    Natural gas 9.5%
    Mineral oil products 1.0%
    Wind power 9.1%
    Water power 3.3%
    Biomass energy 7.0%
    Photovoltaic energy 5.7%
    Household waste 1.0%
    Other energy sources 4.3%


    At least Germans managed to get above pure statistical error in solar power.

  153. FincaInTheMountains July 30, 2015 at 2:47 pm #

    “The Kilashnikov rifle is ubiqutious” — barbisbest

    It’s Kalashnikov for crying out loud – best rifle ever built by men

    • BackRowHeckler July 30, 2015 at 7:25 pm #

      Just a typo, Finca.

      We know its a great rifle.

      I got to shoot a Kalashnikov one time; guy at the range had one, 7.62×39 round has about the same characteristics as my Winchester .30-30.

      But I read recently the Russians are thinking about replacing it.


  154. wpa--ccc July 30, 2015 at 3:00 pm #

    Bernie meets with more than 100,000 supporters who RSVP’d to attend 3,500 house parties last night. This is a first in United States history. Bernie speaks. MSM silent. The people are on the move. Change comes from the bottom up, not the top down. Community organizers know this.


  155. Janos Skorenzy July 30, 2015 at 3:02 pm #

    If you support other races before you’re own, you are a Cuckservative or Libcuck. Same thing (on a lower level of awareness) if you support people from other countries before Americans.

    Look at Jeb Cuck: he married the cleaning lady and now raves about how Mexicans are superior to White Americans.


    • malthuss July 30, 2015 at 5:47 pm #

      Governator had a child w his maid.

  156. wpa--ccc July 30, 2015 at 3:16 pm #

    Well who wouldn’t be enthusiastic, what with free college tuition, $15 per hour minimum wage, free medical care … what’s not to like?” –brh

    Yes, I agree, brh!

    It is quite unlike Gov. Ronald Reagan, who 50 years ago, said Medicare would destroy the United States. Medicare, Reagan said, should be abolished because it is socialism. Well, Medicare has been around for 50 years, but it did not turn the USA socialist. Reagan was wrong about that … and so many other things.

  157. wpa--ccc July 30, 2015 at 6:06 pm #

    “Look at Jeb Cuck: he married the cleaning lady and now raves about how Mexicans are superior to White Americans.” –Janos

    Look at Janos Cuck: he married the white supremacist myth and now raves about how Mexicans are inferior to white Americans.


    • Frankiti July 30, 2015 at 6:49 pm #

      He is a racist imbecile nonpareil that blanket posts this entire site. Not sure why the host is allowing this site to be donated by a racist antisemite, perhaps for free speech sentiments, who knows? If you dropped in here for the first time you might have to double-check that you’re not on some neonazi board.

      • Frankiti July 30, 2015 at 6:59 pm #


      • Janos Skorenzy July 30, 2015 at 7:02 pm #

        To Frank, the height of sophistication is suicide. He calls me an Australopithecus because I value life. Evidently he doesn’t realize that the first humans were Black – thus by calling me a Black and then insulting me, he becomes a racist.

        • Frankiti July 31, 2015 at 10:51 pm #

          Here come those Santa Ana winds again…

    • Janos Skorenzy July 30, 2015 at 7:04 pm #

      Defending Jeb Cuck now? You must a Cuckservative or at least a Lib Cuck. All Cucks stick together!

  158. Pucker July 30, 2015 at 7:18 pm #

    According to the book “Battle Cry of Freedom”, President Fillmore and most Northerners supported the “Fugitive Slave Act” not so much because they supported the institution of slavery, but rather because they didn’t want negroes immigrating to the North. It’s rather ironic that so many negroes moved to Detroit and Chicago in “The Land of Lincoln”, Illinois.

  159. Pucker July 30, 2015 at 7:26 pm #

    The author of the book “Battle Cry of Freedom” doesn’t use the word “racism”, rather he uses the word “Negrophobia”. The proper term for a “racist” should, therefore, be “Negrophobe”.

    The nurse replied: “Dr. Kevorkian doesn’t give his patients second opinions.”

  160. wpa--ccc July 30, 2015 at 7:31 pm #

    A lion is killed in Africa and there is international outrage. Black people are being killed in the streets of America and people call us crazy for saying “Black Lives Matter”

    “Doctor, doctor, I cut my index finger in half.”

    Now, now, what is the big deal? Don’t you know that “All Fingers Matter” … the ring finger, the middle finger, the little finger, and the thumb, too?

    Duh! My index finger matters because it was the finger that got cut.

    Black Lives Matter because unarmed Blacks are the ones being killed in the streets by white police, in parks, in cars, in holding cells, on sidewalks. Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Freddie Gray… I can’t breathe.

    Say Her Name: Tanisha Anderson, Rekia Boyd, Miriam Carey, Michelle Cusseaux, Shelly Frey, Kayla Moore, Sandra Bland…

    When Cops Get Caught Sanitizing And Flat-Out Lying About Brutality
    “A physical altercation ensued.”


    • Janos Skorenzy July 30, 2015 at 9:02 pm #

      Blacks are so bad that Whites sometimes make mistakes dealing with them and shoot first. Battle fatigue has set in. Time to bring the troops home and let Blacks be Black by themselves. Integration has failed. We need to give these people home rule.

  161. fodase July 30, 2015 at 7:57 pm #

    Finca, you’re seriously erring in your statistics on solar energy.

    Germany at 5.7% solar is a giant accomplishment – and rising annually. It started at zero.

    German is Europe’s biggest energy consumer by far.

    Spain is number 5 and gets 50% of its electricity from wind.

    Denmark typically gets half from wind as well.

    California, the most populous state in the Union, got 5% from solar-wind in 2014.

    Australia has seen a multi-million-rooftop explosion in PV installations that has sent the country’s coal utilities reeling – demand from them is falling thanks to the sun+panels.

    If you ever travel through the Mojave desert you’ll see CSP plants that power 500,000 homes.

    These aren’t projects to prove a point – they are cost-competitive with coal/petroleum etc. They didn’t exist 10 years ago.

    Why not?

    The answer will show you what the future holds in store.

    The Saudis know they’ll be leaving their oil in the ground long before it runs out, they’ve openly said as much and are building enormous PV and CSP plants, i.e. putting their money where their mouth is.


  162. nsa July 30, 2015 at 8:50 pm #

    Time for home rule? Maybe whitey should pull the white cops out of predominantly afro neighborhoods and let the ghettos police themselves however they see fit. Every weekend in Chicago there are 40 or 50 shootings but so what….let the “community” take care of it. You can only imagine the result but who cares?

  163. Pucker July 30, 2015 at 10:03 pm #

    The politically correct college students are getting the bill.

    Student Loan Law: Repayment Plans, Default Resolution, Administrative Discharges & more will focus on the status of student loans as a national economic crisis, explore various repayment options and administrative remedies available along with debt collection and dischargeability litigation.

    Key topics to be discussed:
    Student Loan Debt as a National Economic Crisis
    Delinquency and Default
    Default Resolution
    Repayment Plans
    Loan Forgiveness
    Administrative Discharges
    Student Loans in Bankruptcy
    Collection Lawsuits on Student Loan Debt

  164. wpa--ccc July 30, 2015 at 10:19 pm #

    “It’s Kalashnikov for crying out loud – best rifle ever built by men” –Finca

    I would say it is the fourth best.

  165. Pucker July 30, 2015 at 11:18 pm #

    The politically correct college students, like Mao’s Red Guards, are trying to create a Utopia.

  166. FincaInTheMountains July 31, 2015 at 12:50 am #

    “But I read recently the Russians are thinking about replacing it.” — brh

    Meet AK-12, the leading candidate to replace AK-47:


    AK-47 is the best weapon not because it’s hi-tech or sexy, but because it’s cheap, extremely reliable and simple to use – best weapon for a rapidly deployed “peasant” large army of reservists.

    Russian concept of weaponry is very different than American – it’s the biggest “bang” for the buck, created to solve the concrete military task that arise in real combat situations. Remember, it’s based on Soviet Military Industrial Complex tradition that was not interested in turning any profit.

    Americans tend to create a fancy design first and then find a combat task that new system could solve.

  167. Pucker July 31, 2015 at 1:29 am #

    I fired an AK-47 several years ago at a tourist rifle range at the Cu Chih Tunnels outside Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam under the supervision of a retired NVA officer. He got all excited when I started smoke’n the targets. I don’t like the AK-47 though. It’s too small and has a bad recoil. I got the impression that it is a good weapon for spraying targets and suitable for use by child soldiers.

    • Pucker July 31, 2015 at 4:44 am #

      From the BBC:

      All this week, BBC World Service’s The World Today programme is looking at the stories behind one of the world’s most iconic weapons, the AK-47.
      Throughout the week we will be speaking to the people who trade in it, the people who carry it, and the people whose lives have been destroyed by it.


      In Africa up to 100,000 children are thought to have been involved in armed conflict last year. The AK-47 is the weapon of choice for child soldiers, as it is light and easy to use but can discharge 600 rounds per minute.

      Sierra Leone is a country notorious for its use of child soldiers in its 10-year civil war. Both the government and rebels recruited children. Sangeba was recruited by the rebels

  168. FincaInTheMountains July 31, 2015 at 1:45 am #

    On the tenth in December 1999, Boris Yeltsin unexpectedly flew to China to visit his friend Jiang. The doctors categorically forbade him this 30-hour trip. Boris Nikolayevich openly got worse off that year, infinitely ill. Cancels visit after a visit: at the end of 1998, he even changed his mind to go to Austria for an hour or two before departure.

    But for Yeltsin sitting in Moscow was like a political death. For the situation was extremely tense. Washington was furious and not in the least embarrassed to say that it was going to punish Russia. Bill Clinton in plain text openly warned Yeltsin on Chechnya, alluding to the fate of Yugoslavia, if Yeltsin began to make waves.

    Yeltsin decided to take a desperate step – to remind his former friend Bill about the “Satan”: “Bill Clinton yesterday allowed himself to put pressure on Russia. He apparently for a second, for a minute, for a half a minute has forgotten what Russia is and that Russia has a full arsenal of nuclear weapons, and therefore decided to flex his muscles, “– slowly but firmly reprimanded Yeltsin with the tacit consent of Jiang Zemin, standing on Chinese soil.

    Yeltsin’s words were like a bombshell, because never before in the history of high diplomacy leaders of the nuclear powers resorted to such a weighty and dangerous argument as nuclear weapons. It was against the rules. It hit below the belt.

    But Yeltsin had nowhere to retreat. Behind him loomed yet free of the NATO Russia. In front, it is quite possible – the threat of exposing fraud of the “President-act” and dismantling of Russian nuclear arsenal.

    It was impossible to come up with better place than China for the emphatic rejection of Camp David’s night Protocols of 1992, if Boris Yeltsin really did sign them. We remember how in the late 1950s, Mao Zedong, sitting on the edge of the pool, trying to persuade Khrushchev’s to use nuclear warheads to hit America. Since that time many years have passed, but the CIA has information that China itself has offered to discuss the issue of Chechnya with Yeltsin during his visit to China – most severe of all facing Yeltsin problems!

    The fact is that all Russia’s nuclear arsenal is on a 30-second alert.

    And if the president after consultation with the Minister of Defense (or without it) turns the key, the missile systems will go flying. Appropriate ciphers that have been already entered into “nuclear suitcase” would determine the flight mission.

  169. wpa--ccc July 31, 2015 at 8:28 am #

    “can discharge 600 rounds per minute” –Pucker

    How much does 600 rounds cost? Who pays for and transports so much ammunition? How much does 600 rounds weigh? How many rounds can child soldiers carry?

  170. Pucker July 31, 2015 at 9:57 am #

    AK-47 ammo is cheap. The Chinese sell it in huge drums. Many years ago, when I first toured Ankor Wat in Cambodia I told my Cambodia guide that I had read that the cost of one of those small Chinese-made land mines littered around Cambodia was only US$3.00. At the time, there were Cambodia men everywhere begging and hobbling around on crutches with their feet and legs blown off by land mines. I recall that my Cambodian guide whom I paid US$20 for a day tour was struck by the US$3.00 figure. US$3.00 for a foot, leg and a life of poverty and misery. I found an AK-47 bullet atop a temple at Angkor Thom. The Khmer Rouge child soldiers fought pitched battles with the Vietnamese around those temples. I still have the AK-47 bullet.

  171. Pucker July 31, 2015 at 10:06 am #

    But under Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia AK-47 cartridges were in short supply and highly valued. The Khmer Rouge preferred to kill people after torturing them by hitting the victim on the back of the head with a wooden cart axle rather than “wasting” a bullet. Think about it: an AK-47 is more valuable than a person’s life.

    This is probably how it will end up in the US as the perversion plays out over time. It’s already rather nutty and getting weirder. Of course, most people probably won’t notice.

  172. Q. Shtik July 31, 2015 at 10:40 am #

    “It’s Kalashnikov for crying out loud – best rifle ever built by men” –Finca

    I would say it is the fourth best. – wpa


    That’s right, there are 3 better rifles built by women.

  173. nsa July 31, 2015 at 11:24 am #

    Even the creepy old wobbly jew, Bernie, wants to kick out the worthless illegal vermin and build a border fence…..thereby protecting american blue collar wages. The crime / welfare / medical cost savings alone would easily pay for it. 100% tariffs on all the imported crap would be good next step. A welfare state accepting unlimited immigration (legal or illegal) is destined for history’s scrap heap……which is exactly what many suicidal posters on this site yearn for……WPAsoka, Fod, Finc…..

    • malthuss July 31, 2015 at 11:48 am #

      Where would the money for Sanders ‘New Deal’ come from?
      Will any country buy US debt?

      • Buck Stud July 31, 2015 at 1:38 pm #

        The same place the voracious appetite of the Military Industrial Complex feeds?

        Funny though, you, BRH and other right-wing GOP types never mention that. IOW, a Dick Cheney type will never go hungry in your ideal world (or at least BRH”s world).

        But speaking of Bernie and JHK’s characterization of him –“I Dreamed I Saw Joe Hill redistributionist scheme” the real ‘distribution’ in this country has been from the lower economic tiers to the upper crest. And yet, JHK frames “Bernie the Union Hall Champion out of a Pete Seeger marching song” as more or less irrelevant to more important issues such as a total societal makeover after the inevitable collapse of one sort or another.

        And that has always been the fatal flaw, fly-in-the ointment of JHK’s manifesto. He doesn’t really have a plan to get current society ‘from here to there’ beyond some oblique, thin references to a national transportation system, ‘public utility’ if you will. He has no real plan for a transition phase beyond buy a farm. grow your own food, learn an archaic trade etc. In other words, as little chaos as possible but yet unavoidable in his world view.

        The truth of the matter is that if the Dem party lifted JHK’s manifesto to the top of their platform they would be annihilated at the voting booth: Utterly destroyed. And if that happened our country could look forward to even more Scalia’s,Thomas’, Alito’s and Roberts’ on the SCOTUS, not to mention the other courts.
        Corporate power would be further entrenched –recall that ‘corporations are people’ was only supported by the GOP wing of the SCOTUS–as a result of championing a JHK like manifesto.

        Most people realize the landscape is less than ideal but not many are willing to engage in direct masochistic political choices that would only further entrench corporate interests and amplify further economic stratification (oh yeah that’s right, who cares if the one-percent get even more; we should all be growing our own food and making our own shoes and building our own houses with axes, adzes and all sorts of handsaws, planes and chisels–hmmm, this is actually sounding better and better all the time!)

        Moreover, JHK doesn’t bother to mention that the vast majority of every public transportation proposal/implementation around the country is a result of Dem party impetus. And nearly all opposition is by the GOP. Indeed, the Koch Brothers are virulently anti-public transportation.

        But yes, let’s double down on the deleterious dynamic by abandoning the Dem party.

        How fucking smart would that be, Gentlemen?

        • Janos Skorenzy July 31, 2015 at 4:51 pm #

          The Democrats are increasingly the Party of Rich as well as the poor. As in Ancient Rome, the two are allied against the Middle Class. The Republicans are now the ones who claim to represent the Middle Class – and they betray that trust by trying to appeal to minorities and of course being for the Rich as well.
          Thus they desire to be a mirror image of the Democrats but can’t be without betraying their real base. A hopeless situation. Thus they are Cucks.

        • BackRowHeckler July 31, 2015 at 8:08 pm #

          Hey Buck you can forget any big transportation public works projects now and in the future. Don’t blame it on the Republicans. $$$ just isn’t available. Imagine trying to build a transcontinental railroad in 2015; just to get the environmental permits would take 50 years and cost a billion dollars. And who could you get to work like the coolies and the Irish Micks did in 1867? We’re stuck with what we’ve got, which is an interstate highway system designed in the 1950s when the US population was 150 million. What’s gonna happen when the population is 500 million, and its mostly from the third world? Who’s going to fix the pot holes?


          • malthuss August 1, 2015 at 11:39 am #

            Duly noted.
            We are bursting at the seams.
            Cities designed for a population of 100-200 million are now unbearable.
            And not just Camden and Bridgeport.

            Continuing yr reporting.

  174. volodya July 31, 2015 at 12:46 pm #

    Janos and Qshtik about vocal fashions

    Remember how women used to talk back in the day? Remember whispery Jackie O sounding like the reluctant virgin?

    Remember Lesley Stahl reporting from the White House? She was the antidote. None of that nonsense for her. Chicks like Lesley started a new vocal trend, that of the straight-ahead-no-bullshit-this-is-how-it-is. What a relief.

    This “uptalk” is just annoying. I listen to the youngsters around the dinner table. I start thinking a stint in the military bellowing sir-yes-sir, aye-aye-sir would do a world of good.

    Remember how fucking suave guys like Frank and Sammy used to be? Remember how serious and earnest the folkies used to sound? Well, then came the opposite.

    I don’t know what to make of vocal fry. My 20 year old niece is a practitioner. Preferable to up-talk. Maybe it’s the antidote.

  175. wpa--ccc July 31, 2015 at 7:40 pm #

    That’s right, there are 3 better rifles built by women. — Qshtik


    Smart ass. Black-Lesbian-Transgendered?

    Bushmaster ACR
    H&K G36


    • elysianfield August 1, 2015 at 11:43 am #

      Sorry, but your list is incomplete. The fastest shooting, most accurate battle rifle ever devised is the 1891 Mannlicher-Carcano rifle. This has been proven and so deemed by competent government authority. Please stand corrected….

  176. wpa--ccc July 31, 2015 at 8:16 pm #

    What’s gonna happen when the population is 500 million, and its mostly from the third world? Who’s going to fix the pot holes? –brh


    The answer is contained within your question.


  177. fodase July 31, 2015 at 8:36 pm #

    Who’s going to fix the pot holes?

    self-healing asphalt.

    first thing that came to mind – then i used google and, whaddyaknow, it’s already in use….

    technology’s got you guys covered.

    of course you don’t believe it.

    one day we’ll send messages across the atlantic.

    fodase the artiste formerly known as welles

    • BackRowHeckler August 1, 2015 at 8:27 am #

      No, I believe it.

      Sounds expensive, tho.

      Actually that self healing pavement would be a Godsend here in New England, where the roads take an awful beating each and every winter.


  178. MisterDarling July 31, 2015 at 10:21 pm #

    @ Janos & Whom It May Concern;

    Re | “Why the quotation marks? You don’t believe “they” are a “them”? In other words, Mexicans are just as American as Americans are? Or as WPC and the Communist/Democrat hardcore would say, more because immigration is the essence of America? Thus the less American the more American?

    Defend yourself!”-Janos.

    At ease with the histrionics, Janos.

    I placed semi-quotes around ‘they’ because the United States absorbed a number of people who by language and ancestry belonged at one point to Mexico (and prior to that, the Spanish Empire).

    So, when we consider the population of the American Southwest, the line between US and Mexico gets a bit ‘squishy’. Many people are – at this point in time – citizens of the United States… And there are times when that seems like a mere technicality.

    And of course, there are the people of the Southwest who are *indigenous* to it.


  179. Pucker July 31, 2015 at 10:41 pm #

    Do any of you CFN “Dill Holes” remember those TV commercials wherein they get the blind person to “Take the Pepsi Challenge” to compare which is “better”, high fructose corn syrup diabetes-inducing “Coke”, or high fructose corn syrup diabetes-inducing “Pepsi”? Sick!

  180. MisterDarling July 31, 2015 at 10:46 pm #

    @ WPACC’Assoka’Sock & Whom It May Concern;

    Regarding “Mister Darling: “We can Run Out of Road for instance – which is happening, as transportation infrastructure crumbles to dust…”

    Janos: “Exactly. Those countries are even more dysfunctional than they apparently are.”

    I don’t know what parts of the world you are both speaking about, but Europe and South America and some parts of Asia have the USA beat when it comes to “transportation infrastructure.” In many of those countries you do not need a car… because public transportation is readily available.”-wpacc.

    Was there ever a day when you actually knew what you were talking about? There are still places in the USA where you don’t need a car, but not enough to matter – and that is the point.

    For the benefit of those with thinking that’s less impaired, my point is this: there are a number of ways that transportation networks can be disabled. In the case of the USA, Mexico and points farther south, violence and corruption are getting it done as quickly as lack of maintenance.

    Consider: If you can’t drive 20 miles without running into a roadblock or ‘traffic-stop’ where you are robbed (or ‘fined’) and/or risk being killed by the local lawless constabulary, then ground-transportation is for all intents and purposes not a non-emergency option… There goes your “Happy Motoring”, your “just going out for a drive to clear my head” moments, your casual tourism and light entertainment.

    In the case of Mexico – which is a failed state though no one in the MSM wants to call it that yet – that moment is NOW.

    What else are you going say about a ‘nation’ where “98% of Murders” go unsolved and “90%” of kidnappings are unreported (and *un-investigated* actually… everyone’s got a short-list of who killed who, and there’s no percentage in poking that hornet’s nest 😉


    By The Way, WPACC-Sock? Have you considered taking a trip South of the Border for a few weeks ‘eco-friendly’ holiday? You might find it an enlightening experience.

    Just say ‘yes’…

    Then “just do it”.


  181. MisterDarling July 31, 2015 at 10:48 pm #

    Bienvenidos a Mexico!


    … “for a Day, or a Life-Time!”


  182. MisterDarling July 31, 2015 at 11:02 pm #

    @ Ozone, Sauerkraut & the able-minded:

    re | “sauerkraut, Thanks (again). It’s hard for me to fathom that this phenomena is still denied. I guess it’s a matter of wishful thinking in the negative. “I don’t want it to be… so it isn’t.”-oz.

    You-all will probably like this dainty little data-ditty:


    You’ll notice that it tracks the buildup over the lifetime of our species… Long Gone are the days of 250 ppm!


  183. MisterDarling July 31, 2015 at 11:12 pm #

    But, I guess it makes sense that we still here from these denier-socks.

    ExxonMobil knew back in “1981”…but that didn’t keep them from paying sock-puppets for another “27 years”;


    It’s a matter of public record now.

    What was the thinking behind that, you ask?

    “Ooops! Sorry ’bout the planet, *dill-holez*! We had money to be makin’!”



    Enjoy your weekend!

    • ozone August 1, 2015 at 8:20 am #

      Thanks for the link MD,
      Ahhh, nothing like that refreshing lift to be had from a bit of conspiracy fact on a sultry Saturday.

      Is there a kind of statute of limitations on the shock value of these revelations? It seems that way.
      “What’s done is done; evil is now the merely mediocre; that was a long time ago; relax, everyone’s doing it… (etc.)”

      What I want to know is: “Is it safe?” Wizzzzzz… *unhelpful dentistry ahead*.
      (Probably a case of “negative safety”. And for some strange reason, Hillary will not [publicly] state her position on the XL pipeline. How ’bout that?)

  184. Pucker July 31, 2015 at 11:22 pm #

    “If I win, we’re gonna be so fuck’n strong that nobody will fuck’n mess with us.”
    – Donald Trump

  185. Pucker July 31, 2015 at 11:25 pm #

    Diabetes is the Number 1 cause of blindness and amputations in the US.

  186. Pucker July 31, 2015 at 11:42 pm #

    According to the book “Battle Cry of Freedom”, President Zachary Taylor, a slave owner, sold out the South by limiting the expansion of slavery into newly acquired territories. President Taylor died of gastroenteritis. Just prior to his death when asked his opinion of whether slave traders should be able to expand their market into new territories, Taylor replied: “Are you Shit’n me?!”

  187. UriahHeap August 1, 2015 at 12:13 am #

    It’s not a “terrible prospect,” Kunstler. Maybe you’re being unconsciously chauvinistic, looking at the situation from the standpoint of your guydom.

    She will be all right. Fine. People who become successful politicians become canned. It’s unfortunate, but we live in an oligarchy, and this is how such systems work, apparently.

  188. sprawlcapital August 1, 2015 at 12:22 am #

    Here’s a good article about the final days of World War II.


  189. sprawlcapital August 1, 2015 at 12:32 am #

    An article on the final days of World War II:


  190. sprawlcapital August 1, 2015 at 12:40 am #

    Trying again. Same article on onepage. The final days of WW II.


    • elysianfield August 1, 2015 at 12:05 pm #

      Can we please end the revisionist bullshit regarding the “racist” use of the Atomic Bomb to force the end of the war with Japan? Please reference, in Hirohito’s own words, his reason(s) for surrender…and this taken directly from the text of his speech to the Japanese people…

      “the war situation has developed not necessarily to Japan’s advantage, while the general trends of the world have all turned against her interest.

      Moreover, the enemy has begun to employ a new and most cruel bomb, the power of which to do damage is, indeed, incalculable, taking the toll of many innocent lives. Should We continue to fight, not only would it result in an ultimate collapse and obliteration of the Japanese nation, but also it would lead to the total extinction of human civilization.”

      • sprawlcapital August 1, 2015 at 7:00 pm #

        I do not recall any allegation of racism in the article I posted.

        Sorry I posted it three times; I was having trouble with the technology.

        Sorry too that you consider this debate to be bullshit. Shutting down the debate about nuclear weapons led directly to the nuclear arms race. Maybe you’re too young to remember that.

        • elysianfield August 2, 2015 at 11:46 am #


          Sorry, I did not mean to pose that your post was implying racism…other posts on this topic, however inferred racism as an enabler, and to that argument I was referring.
          Other facets of the debate I will not address at this time. Approaching my 70th decade, I have lived through the cold war, and I would point out that the arms race between two hostile camps involved nuclear weapons, as well as aircraft, missiles. tanks , chemical and biological weapons, battle rifles, etc. I, myself, never considered there being a moral argument in the use of any of these instruments, considering an existential conflict.

  191. Pucker August 1, 2015 at 1:25 am #

    At what other period in history have Homosexuals and Transgenders been so prominent?

  192. Pucker August 1, 2015 at 3:21 am #

    On the dangers of the misallocation of Capital:

    “Capital was abundant in the South, to be sure: in 1860, according to the census measure of wealth (real and personal property), the average southern white male was nearly twice as wealthy as the average northern white man. The problem was that most of this wealth was invested in land and slaves. A British visitor to Georgia in 1846 was “struck with the difficulty experienced in raising money here for the building of mills. “Why, say they, “should all our cotton make so long a journey to the North, to be manufactured there, and come back to us at so high a price? It is because all spare cash is sunk in purchasing negroes.” A northerner described the investment cycle of the southern economy: “To sell cotton in order to buy negroes—-to make more cotton to buy more negroes, ‘ad infinitum….”

    “Battle Cry of Freedom”

    One could say that the current system of finance in the US is in the same malicious downward spiral with money going into non-productive investment?

  193. Pucker August 1, 2015 at 3:32 am #

    The Southerners were putting everything into breeding negroes. Jesus….

    • CancelMyCard August 1, 2015 at 7:15 pm #

      There is no negro Jesus.

      However, the real Jesus looks nothing at all like the Renaissance painting of a tall, blue-eyed, fair-haired, northern european male.

      In his time, in Palestine, Jesus would have been a native Aramaic — a short, swarthy, dark curly-haired male.

      Read it and weep.

  194. BackRowHeckler August 1, 2015 at 9:18 am #

    Puerto Rico, getting ready to default.

    What do you think, will the Feds end up bailing them out — Feds say no — like Greece got bailed out by the EU? That is, after an elaborate kabooki dance and a lot of hemming and hawing — in the final analysis the bailout always seems to come thru.

    Which is why Chicago isn’t too worried about its $50 billion in unfunded pension liabilities.

    Around these parts Hartford doesn’t have to worry about balancing a budget or going broke because it permanently is on the State Govt. Teat, which covers about 80% of all expenses, and they are large, ‘specially the welfare expenses. Ironically, Hartford is majority Puerto Rican, including a Puerto Rican mayor. Right now the FD is in chaos, which seems to resemble a Fire Dept. from a 3rd world country, not a western democracy.

    Western Civilization is taking a beating here on many fronts; whether or not it survives is an open question. Right now it doesn’t look good. Being a ‘sanctuary city’ isn’t helping matters.’ What happens when the Capital City goes down in disorder and chaos, and the center doesn’t hold (to paraphrase Auden)? And the chaos spreads to surrounding towns? And you have a government that seems to encourage the chaos and disorder, refuses to enforce the law, in fact is sympathetic and even backs the criminal element, like what’s happening in Baltimore right now?


    • sprawlcapital August 2, 2015 at 1:15 am #

      brh: the center doesn’t hold (to paraphrase Auden)?
      That should be Yeats, not Auden.

      • BackRowHeckler August 2, 2015 at 4:05 am #

        I stand corrected, SC. Good catch.

        Turning and turning in the widening gyre
        The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
        Things fall apart, the center cannot hold;
        Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
        The blood dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
        The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
        The best lack all conviction, the
        Worst are full of passionate intensity.

        -WB Yeats

        Pretty much sums up CFNation

        In Memory of WB Yeats,

        by WH Auden

        He disappeared in the dead of winter
        The brooks were frozen, the airports almost deserted
        And snow disfigured the public statues;
        The mercury sank in the mouth of the dying day
        What instruments we have agree
        The day of his death was a dark cold day.


  195. Pucker August 1, 2015 at 10:11 am #

    Thank God Lincoln put a stop to that insane Southern slave breeding business! Otherwise, we’d now be up to our eyeballs in negroes everywhere.

  196. Cavepainter August 1, 2015 at 10:41 am #

    Too late for tribunals; There won’t be enough bread crumbs to reapportion according to whatever notion of justice is adjudicated. If any part of humanity is to survive it’ll take an evolutionary leap in our species faster and greater than has happened before, and as with our whole predicament I’m not optimistic.

    We’re the only creature that processes sensory input into concepts of “reality” rather than simply reacting according to genetic code. A really cumbersome process it turns out because we’ve become too adapt at manipulating those “abstractions” for leveling (managing) anxiety — a self medicating, really

    Hence, we have all the mumbo-jumbo obtuseness of “faith” (whether of prophetic religion or Liberal Left secular utopianism) for alleviating what empiricism offers as indifferent fate.

    What’s to say otherwise,….enjoy life as you can in the meanwhile of fate’s haplessness.

  197. barbisbest August 1, 2015 at 10:57 am #

    wpa-ccc- point well made about the lion being killed and so many are outraged, and americans of color are dragged from their vehicles and killed and we aren’t outraged. Let me say here, I am outraged that people of color are killed. Maybe we perceive animals as being so vulnerable, but we all are!!

    Anyone who leaves a child in a hot car because they want to go shopping is a piece of crap! The butthole that shot the Lion in Zimbabwe is a piece of crap. I am outraged that Americans are being slaughtered on our streets. I am nonplussed that this planet, our home will not take another major military endeavor, or it will be overheated and unlivable, and no one seems to notice or give a hoot. Live in peace or we die, what’s it gonna be?

    I am a tiger and I am woman, hear me ROAR!

    ‘H ow many of you brooding on the dreadful prospect of Hillary have chanced to survey what remains of Democratic Party (cough cough) leadership in the background of Her Royal Inevitableness? Nothing is the answer. Zip. Nobody. A vacuum. ‘ That’s where you come in JHK.

    Not can be, only the mediocre like Obama, or the vile like Bush seek power.

  198. volodya August 1, 2015 at 11:23 am #

    Washington Post reports that Bernie Sanders is against “immigration reform” and against open borders because both of these are ways to get low-wage labor into the country. He says that’s what the Koch Brothers want. He said this in front of the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. Good for Bernie.

  199. wpa--ccc August 1, 2015 at 12:01 pm #

    “Christmas time we’ll probably be rebounding off new lows off of the mid to low 30s” –Kilduff

    July saw a 21% drop with crude at $47.12. Oil glut instead of peak oil… Prices headed downward.


  200. wpa--ccc August 1, 2015 at 12:01 pm #

    “Christmas time we’ll probably be rebounding off new lows off of the mid to low 30s” –Kilduff

    July saw a 21% drop with crude at $47.12. Oil glut instead of peak oil… Prices headed downward.


  201. wpa--ccc August 1, 2015 at 12:10 pm #

    New oil rigs installed in July… Even with prices below $50… Another CFN myth bites the dust.

    “A higher U.S. oil rig count for a second straight week added to the market’s downside Friday despite a weaker dollar, which would normally support commodities.”

  202. FincaInTheMountains August 1, 2015 at 1:10 pm #

    Apparently. Chinese are conducting investigation into the recent market crash. They haven’t found the traces of Soros organisation so far, but already discovered a wonderful world of market manipulations with help of high-frequency trading.

    I wonder if it is another case of Chinese “adopting” US technology for domestic use, or somebody was working on a legitimate foreign license.

  203. FincaInTheMountains August 1, 2015 at 1:19 pm #

    “A higher U.S. oil rig count for a second straight week..” — wpa

    After growing by 19 drilling rigs last week – this week, the number of drilling rigs in the US declined by 2. (+5 rigs for oil, -7 for gas).

    The total amount of the remaining drilling rigs in the US is now 874 pieces. or 45.26% from the peak in September (1931 rigs). Oil rigs left 664 or 41.27% from last year’s peak (1609 rigs).

    Source: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=79687&p=irol-reportsother

    Cheap oil is over and market manipulations will be able to hide that not for very long.

  204. FincaInTheMountains August 1, 2015 at 1:45 pm #

    US Army Building Roads in Eastern Europe, Citing ‘Russian Aggression’

    US military officials are loudly bragging about their latest initiative to reassure Europe, a program that was called, unlikely enough, the European Reassurance Initiative (ERI), and which to this point has involved moving a lot of sand around, and building some roads in rural parts of several Baltic states.


    I would like to take a liberty and say “thank you” to all american taxpayers for taking such a good care of driving conditions for Russian tanks, when they finally start their Western assault.

  205. Buck Stud August 1, 2015 at 3:10 pm #

    while out running around this morning I was exposed to some satanic white trash heavy metal music so when I got home I needed some aesthetic purification of the sophisticated divine sort and I chose this:


    • Janos Skorenzy August 1, 2015 at 5:17 pm #

      Jazz is so relaxed, so decentralized, so sensual, so far from Meaning, and Sturm und Drang that I’ve always hated it instinctively. But now I’m starting to enjoy it. It’s the richness of the melody not the cheapjack sentiments that I care for. No doubt I’m falling into decadence in any case.

      • CancelMyCard August 1, 2015 at 7:50 pm #


        You are already beyond decadence.

        You have arrived at the stage of self-hatred, and we have all been witnessing this progression for some time now.

        Best wishes to you while in your own self-made hell.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 2, 2015 at 4:41 am #

          Why? Just because I don’t hate my own flesh and blood like you cannibals? Never mind the speck in my eye, look to the beam in your own.

          I’m never going to join your cult of White Suicide – but many of your younger friends and relatives will be joining with us in the future – to build a future for our People while you stay in a darkening and dying Non-White America.

    • cbeard August 2, 2015 at 11:03 am #


  206. FincaInTheMountains August 1, 2015 at 5:48 pm #

    The Americans via injection of instability in the world, in every way are vacuum cleaning international finances for their transfer to US markets. And it must be said, quite successfully so. The exchange indexes of corporate bonds are growing steadily, even against the backdrop of lack of progress with the sale of goods and services, as well as increasing trade deficit. Translated into English, it means that corporate America does not show any particular successes, and even shows a loss, but the shares of its companies on the market, however, grow more expensive. And the effect is provided solely by the outflow of capital from other countries.

    China, along with Russia, is steadily getting rid of US T-bills. This is a separate and complicated process. They do not need to simultaneously bring down the US economy. It’s too big, and the result of an instant collapse could bury a whole current global financial and economic system.

    They gradually convert their T-bills holdings into gold, so not to push the price of gold up, making sure that each successive batch of gold is bought at a lower price than the previous one.

  207. fodase August 1, 2015 at 8:08 pm #

    what’s on the menu tomorrow in brazil:

    bbq pork ribs over anjico wood – roasted slow with the skin on, until it blisters up and turns crackly.

    super-cold beer, bottles get so cold the liquid instantly turns to ice if you touch them incorrectly when opening.

    manioc boiled in pressure cooker – muuuuch better than potatoes.

    cupim, which is the meat of the hump on the cattle’s back, just after where the head attaches to the body. cumpim actually means termite in portuguese, and their mounds look like the hump on the cow/steer, hence the association.

    farofa, which is like very finely crumbled bread. you dip the cupim in it, and the juices make it stick. mmm mmm

    very loud 1940s-1970s brazilian country music, very good quality, reminiscent of the same period in US country music

    we may skin and roast a pineapple as well, throw cinammon on it and place above the fire.

    welles will be doing the preparation and roasting and serving, as usual, with help from the little ladies, who generally handle the manioc.

    all meat besides pork is coated with huge grains of salt before going on the long spits.

    you’re all invited, we can hash out our differences in the shade.


    • BackRowHeckler August 1, 2015 at 11:25 pm #

      Wow Fodase, that sounds fantastic!

      Did you ever meet up with any of the Confederatos down there, descendants of the 20,000 or so US Southerners who moved to Brazil after the Civil War? I’ve read they are pretty much assimilated into Brazilian culture by now and speak Portugese, but still celebrate the 4th of July and Confederate Memorial Day, and show the Stars and Bars occasionally.

      When you describe that cold, cold beer and roast pork it makes my mouth water.

      I could use one of those cold beers right now.

      But I’m at work, probably would get fired.


  208. mdm1mdm1 August 1, 2015 at 8:13 pm #

    I agree with this assessment. We are just going to have to wait for collapse to start its ugly progress. My hunch is the California drought is going to get very very ugly, and will be the first major calamity . We will have a break down in the food chain first of all, then we will start to see climate refugees leaving the state and because of the collapse of the 7th largest economy (California) we will see an economic depression that makes 2008 look like a day in the park. No political leaders from either party really see any of this coming. The reasons they don’t are because of our eternal optimism and really abysmal national press, and general lack of intellectual curiousity. Everybody has pretty much bought that we will be the biggest oil exporters hustle, global warming everybody thinks wont really rear its head for another generation or two, so its business as usual. Personally I would rather see a Bernie Sanders at the help when things go south than a Scott Walker, but until the US really starts falling apart it will be business as usual. The only thing the average person that suspects what may lay ahead can do is enjoy the ride till that time.

  209. Pucker August 1, 2015 at 10:09 pm #

    Thank God Lincoln put a stop to that insane Southern slave breeding business! Otherwise, we’d now be up to our eyeballs in negroes everywhere.

    “Capital was abundant in the South, to be sure: in 1860, according to the census measure of wealth (real and personal property), the average southern white male was nearly twice as wealthy as the average northern white man. The problem was that most of this wealth was invested in land and slaves. A British visitor to Georgia in 1846 was “struck with the difficulty experienced in raising money here for the building of mills. “Why, say they, “should all our cotton make so long a journey to the North, to be manufactured there, and come back to us at so high a price? It is because all spare cash is sunk in purchasing negroes.” A northerner described the investment cycle of the southern economy: “To sell cotton in order to buy negroes—-to make more cotton to buy more negroes, ‘ad infinitum….”

    “Battle Cry of Freedom”

  210. Pucker August 1, 2015 at 10:24 pm #

    Mary Lincoln to Abe:

    “Why Abe, there are 5 million white people in the South and 4 million slaves. Since it’s illegal to import slaves from Africa it must mean that those God-forsaken Southerners are breed’n darkies. And they want to have the right to sell ’em and breed ’em everywhere! Good Lord!”

  211. Pucker August 1, 2015 at 11:03 pm #

    I suspect that on some plantations it was an honor among the slaves to be selected as a “Buck Stud”? Not much work except fucking, and better food and clothing.

    Most young millennials today would aspire to such a job.

  212. Pucker August 1, 2015 at 11:12 pm #

    Most young millennials today would aspire to such a job.

    “You’re gonna have to work off all that college debt. And that internship’s not gonna cut it!”

    • BackRowHeckler August 1, 2015 at 11:35 pm #

      Pucker are you referring to ‘Battle Cry of Freedom’ by James McPherson from about 30 years ago?

      I remember that was pretty good, but there’s been a lot of scholarship since then. For example, i notice the number of deaths incurred in the war is now given at 700,000, not 615,000 as previously stated. Where they found the extra 85,000 dead soldiers I don’t know.


  213. PeteAtomic August 2, 2015 at 2:25 am #

    Mr. K

    Posting again, cuz I was reminded of your excellent TED talk years ago now about New Urbanism. Something has always struck a chord in that talk with me when you talked about “GIs spilling their blood in Afghanistan and Iraq fighting for spaces nobody cares about” (paraphrasing).

    That was the best TED talk I ever heard. Really brilliant. Also sad too because we live in a country that is taking its riches and pouring them onto the ground, literally.

    Unfortunately, I think we are getting to that unloved space. This is why I’m a revolutionary. Too many of my brothers have spilled their blood for unwanted space. We need to create a nation that is almost 180 from what is happening now. A country of small business and self sufficiency, not a corporatist security state.

    Another speaker I heard once, Robert Blye, a poet, told me that “we need to increase our insanity to match their insanity” and I believe that as well.

  214. Janos Skorenzy August 2, 2015 at 4:45 am #


    Can’t win with these people. The Manager crawled and offered her free food for life. She’s willing to come back to the restraint now! Maybe she’ll throw CancelMyHumanity a scrap or two.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 2, 2015 at 4:54 am #


  215. FincaInTheMountains August 2, 2015 at 7:45 am #

    Video showing the adventures of cougar, bear, and his mother in a few days gained a quarter of a million visitors, with 90% of those visitors turned out to be holders of Russian IP-address.

    Unexpected Russian sentimentality certainly surprised the Americans, until they were told that the Russians see in this video an allegory of the relationship of the United States, Russia and Novorossia.


  216. FincaInTheMountains August 2, 2015 at 7:58 am #

    Americans sending greetings to Putin. Playing Russian music, singing: “God, save the Tzar!” in Russian


    Anthem of the Russian Empire “Prayer of the Russian people” as the end of this year concert in the United States Independence Day celebration.

    Tchaikovsky’s “1812” Overture with fireworks performed by the Conductor Jack Everly and the National Symphony Orchestra and Choir.

  217. Buck Stud August 2, 2015 at 8:17 am #

    “Hey Buck you can forget any big transportation public works projects now and in the future. Don’t blame it on the Republicans. $$$ just isn’t available.”–BRH

    Translation: “Hey Buck. you can forget about any big transportation projects now and in the future because huge corporations still don’t have enough tax breaks or tax shelters. And don’t blame it all on corporations or the GOP; people like myself unquestionably buy into the meme that corporations deserve even more tax breaks and that we just don’t have enough. Moreover, people like me continually contradict the ‘we don’t have a enough$$$ mantra’ in championing huge defense spending bills. Furthermore, people like me shift the focus of the blame to the poor.Yes, it’s those damn Obamaphones and food stamps that have broken the camel’s back!”

    And you’re not alone BRH. Even JHK downplays large corporate tax avoidance with his “,,, as if cadging a little more tax money out of WalMart, General Mills, and Exxon-Mobil will fix what is ailing this sad-ass polity. ”

    Just a “little more money”? Really?

    This, from the Center For Effective Govt/Institute For Policy Studies:

    “If 7 pharmaceutical firms paid taxes on their offshore profits, we could repair all the bridges in the country.”


    • BackRowHeckler August 2, 2015 at 12:54 pm #

      Sounds like Bernie Sanders is your man, then Buckstud!

      Sounds like you’re saying If we could just tax the sh-t out of everybody a little bit more then we’d be on the path to National Prosperity, and utopia would be right around the corner. Its those mean spirited Republicans preventing heaven on earth thru confiscation of private wealth, and handing it out to PC approved pressure groups.

      Well we’ve seen your utopias in Detroit, Camden, Bridgeport, E St Louis and a hundred other places and have concluded there has to be a better way, that’s all. We’ve had 50 years of it; the results aren’t so good.


      • Buck Stud August 2, 2015 at 2:09 pm #

        Actually BRH, we have seen ‘this utopia’ during the time of Eisenhower when marginal tax rates were much higher. You remember Eisenhower don’t you? He was the one who warned us in advance against the dangers of the Military Industrial Complex.

        But you misrepresent the contents of the link above. They are not advising to ‘tax the shit out of everybody’ but to close down offshore tax havens/loopholes:

        “Just 26 firms account for more than half of the $2.1 trillion in untaxed profits U.S. corporations are currently holding offshore. Each of these firms has accumulated more than $20 billion in overseas earnings. Together, they operate 1,086 subsidiaries in tax haven nations.

        if all of that tax avoiding loot was being invested in the U.S it would result in enormous economic multiplier effects.

        But no, we should slice Main Street to the bone while the Vampire Corporations suck the nation dry. We should also assert that 2.1 trillion is no big deal and would provide no positive benefit for this “sad polity”.

        Sadly JHK also seems to be parroting the corporate ‘ not-enough-dough’ to go around mantra. Meanwhile, the nation does indeed continue to further erode and the corporations continue to hide enormous amounts of loot from taxation. A self-fulfilling prophecy, in other words.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 2, 2015 at 3:40 pm #

          Good response – and completely accurate. Since he’s ignoring race just as you are, he has no come back.

          As Jared Taylor said: There are places with low taxation, personal freedom, and the right to carry: Somalia and Pakistan for example.

          • malthuss August 2, 2015 at 4:17 pm #

            Somalia and Pakistan as free places?

            In any case ‘this isnt Ike’s USA anymore’. [thats an understatement].

            Get it? Industry is going or gone. Third worlders are here with more arriving daily.

            Etc, or should I post ‘ad nauseum.’

            If more taxes were the solution, there would be no problem.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 2, 2015 at 5:53 pm #

            There’s lot of personal freedom there for men. Just not much infrastructure. By freedom I don’t mean Bill of Rights type freedom of course. Read “Open Letter to Cuckservatives” at Amren.

            He basically mocking the small or no Government nuts called Libertarians.

  218. Buck Stud August 2, 2015 at 8:28 am #

    “Jazz is so relaxed, so decentralized, so sensual, so far from Meaning, and Sturm und Drang that I’ve always hated it instinctively. But now I’m starting to enjoy it. It’s the richness of the melody not the cheapjack sentiments that I care for. No doubt I’m falling into decadence in any case.”–Janos

    I would say anything that ‘get’s you out of your head’ is a good thing. From my vantage point you’re far too cerebral/unbalanced in a way that suggests ‘pondering for it’s own sake’, I say this because it’s obvious you enjoy writing but you have elevated that writing above “content”. Indeed. you’re a formalist in that regard. Perhaps, with the help of music your physicality may be able to initiate a re-balancing act of sorts and actually elevate your reasoning capacity and re-establish a purpose for the verbiage.

    Ironically, you will be able to thank the great aesthetic contributions of African-Americans for your whole being advancement.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 2, 2015 at 3:23 pm #

      Well I go where my spirit leads me. If I’m suddenly enjoying it, that means I need it – so I wont resist it small quantities. I can’t see myself going to jazz clubs and shows, but who knows? That wouldn’t be wrong either per se in moderation. I’ve always enjoyed big band music and swing – which isn’t far from jazz anyway. But I always needed more of the “swing”. I guess the difference now is just enjoying the richness on a sensual level – thus opening me up to more modern forms of jazz. Apparently there is even a kind of abstract jazz with some finding a connection with Hinduism via John Coltrane and others. Maybe I’ll be able to “dig” it now with my new head.

      Note your complete equation of Jazz and Blacks – marg