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If you seek to know why this country is in so much trouble, check out the lead reports about the health care reform bill in today’s New York Times, WashPo, and CNN. You will find there is no intelligible discussion in any of them as to what’s actually ailing US health care. All you get is play-by-play commentary about which political tag-team is “winning,” as if this were a pro wrestling match — with an overlay of gloat that the Republicans fell oafishly out of the ring in the early rounds.

Of course, an issue even larger than the health care fiasco is this society’s tragic and astounding inability to discuss anything coherently in the public arena, and that might possibly be traced to the failures of education in our time and its effects on the current crop of editors and news producers — people who grew up hearing that reality was just a constructed “narrative” and that one narrative was as good as another.

So, you would surmise from reading the papers (or their web editions) that the health care problem was simply a matter of apportioning insurance coverage. That is what the stage magicians call misdirection. Any way you cut the dynamics of health insurance, as practiced in the USA these days, it is nothing but racketeering, literally a conspiracy between informed players to swindle uninformed “patients.” The debate in congress (and the news media) is just about who gets to be swindled.

This is almost entirely due to the hocus-pocus of pricing for services. For an excellent dissection of all this, I urge you to read Karl Denninger’s comprehensive manifesto, How To Permanently Fix Health Care For All, which he posted one month ago. You have to wonder whether anybody in congress happened to read this, because the debate has been devoid of any of the crucial points that it addresses.

The way it works now, the so-called “providers” (doctors, hospitals) refuse to post the cost of any service, and then charge whatever they feel they can extract, subject to an abstruse and dishonest ceremonial “negotiation” with the insurance company. The result: hospital and insurance executives get paid multi-million dollar salaries, doctors get to drive fine German cars, and the patient gets financially ass-raped, kicked to the curb, and eventually stuffed into the bankruptcy courts.

ObamaCare did nothing to fix this. It just added more victims to the rolls and upped the price of admission for a personal financial ass-raping, so that an insured individual could go to the hospital for an emergency appendectomy and end up getting dunned for thousands of dollars — or even more if one of the hosptial’s favorite cute scams is applied, such as calling in an out-of-network anesthesiologist to knock you unconscious (in which state you are unlikely to inquire whether he/she/zhe is in-network or out).

Under the current system, a hospital can bill you $5,999 to stitch up a cut finger, mitigate a bee-sting, or wind an Ace bandage around a sprained ankle, and you’re sure not to learn the cost-of-treatment until the postman drops off the incomprehensible “explanation of benefits” from the insurance company that states in bold print on top “This Is Not a Bill,” but actually is a report of your own incipient financial ass-raping.

But judging from the news reports this day, none of these issues is actually on the table in the congressional debate. I don’t believe the editors of The New York Times are necessarily “in bed” with the overpaid hospital CEOs and the insurance company fraudsters. They are simply putting up a defense of their previous psychological investment in Democratic Party ideology — in the shibboleth that ObamaCare was unquestionably a great thing because it was created under the magically empowered 44th president.

I can believe that both Democratic and Republican law-makers are not only in bed with the medical fraudsters of all categories, but are performing a particularly odious form of sadomasochistic bondage-and-discipline sex in exchange for payoffs. Note, too, that none of the aforementioned major media have reported what the medical and insurance lobbyists have paid to their rent-boys and doxies in the US capitol. Wouldn’t you like to know?

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284 Responses to “A Paler Shade of Gray”

  1. K-Dog May 5, 2017 at 9:38 am #

    Three stitches last year in the little finger of my right paw cost a bit over $4000. I saved $1999 apparently. What a bargain! Actually L&I for WA state picked up the bill as it was a work injury. This means I can still drive my fine German Car. For now anyway. German cars are the best!

    • DA May 5, 2017 at 10:11 pm #

      I thought dogs only rode in Suburus?

    • onehunglo May 6, 2017 at 11:26 pm #

      how many time CFN miscreant keep complain over reality??

      globalist eugenic program design to eliminate unnecessary human who lack skill in advance agenda.

      as you one galt state, globalist enjoy perfect alignment super-communism with super-capitalism with super-corruption with enforcement by unelected members deep state.

      that ok.

      let not you heart be troubled.

      may God be with you.


      • K-Dog May 7, 2017 at 12:45 am #

        In the U.S. Porsche sells four 911 models running from list prices of $69,300 to $141,200; two Boxsters from $43,800; three Carreras from $69,300 and the GT at $440,000 “

        • Georges1202 May 7, 2017 at 3:34 am #

          How sad somehow not to be able to go for the full Box and have to settle for a Boxster. Life in the Age of Diminished Expectations.

    • K-Dog May 7, 2017 at 1:06 am #

      I wish I had remembered this when the article was posted I have had the idea from time to time.

      If America was my reality TV show and I was the TRUMP!

      I’d get some German Consultants, should not need to many but the ones we get we pay good for a couple of years and then we are done with them. Have them institute German Health care in America. Best cars and best health care too!

      Is American healt care a racket?

      According to the Euro health consumer index, which placed it in 7th position in its 2015 survey, Germany has long had the most restriction-free and consumer-oriented healthcare system in Europe. Patients are allowed to seek almost any type of care they wish whenever they want it.

      Take the link and you decide.

      • K-Dog May 7, 2017 at 1:09 am #

        I wish I had remembered this when the article was posted, I have had this idea from time to time.

        should not need too many

        Is American health care a racket?

  2. seawolf77 May 5, 2017 at 9:40 am #

    Healthcare is a national disgrace. Putting people between a rock and a hard place as a matter of policy. America is about the exercise of power. That’s what Republicans live for. Medicare for all is the only viable solution. Get rid of the insurance companies. They are the problem.

    • capt spaulding May 5, 2017 at 11:20 am #

      It’s interesting to see the reaction of republicans when socialized medicine is brought up. I remember back after “W” was reelected, he went on a campaign to have social security privatized. He appeared in front of many adoring audiences who, even though they loved him, did not want their social security privatized. His efforts went for naught. Social security is socialism plain & simple, and even though people don’t want to give it up, they can’t make the leap and see that socialized medicine would benefit them as much as SS. They get sold that same line from the Republicans that it’s a death trap. If the Republicans are to be believed, you can always spot a Canadian health care clinic by looking for the pile of bodies stacked outside which consists of people who died waiting for health care. It’s pure propaganda. It would be just as beneficial for people as Social Security is. When I have told Canadians how much I pay for health insurance and prescriptions, they have laughed right in my face. Every month when I go to pick up my prescriptions I have to prepare for what JHK calls an “ass raping”. I’ve heard all the bullshit lines the Republicans spew on the subject, and all I can say is I guess if you’re stupid enough to believe them, maybe you deserve to be ass raped.

      • capt spaulding May 5, 2017 at 12:11 pm #

        Average life expectancy in Canada:81.96 yrs.
        Average life expectancy in USA: 78.94 yrs.

      • Helix May 5, 2017 at 12:38 pm #

        Re “Social security is socialism plain & simple”

        Well, yes and no. Social Security for middle class earners as a group is essentially a forced-savings program. Essentially, you get back what you (and your employer) put in, everything being calculated in today’s dollars and assuming you live an average life span. While I don’t know the details, I believe lower-income workers actually get a bit more. Now there is the issue of the money being taxed both on the way in (when you contribute) AND on the way out (when you receive the “benefit”), so actually, the program is a net plus for the Federal Government: it gets to tax you twice on the same money. Also there is the issue of men generally having higher earnings than women, and thus higher contributions, but tending to die younger; that is, having a below-average life span, so that also tends to work in the favor of FedGov.

        I lived in New Zealand during the 1970s. If I hear correctly, their medical system is similar to Canada’s. I thought it worked much better than our system here, at a fraction of the cost. What we have here in the US is, as JHK so eloquently states, racketeering plain and simple. However, I have no hope it will change anytime soon. We’re still living pretty high on the hog here. I’m guessing that we have much further to fall before we rouse ourselves into action.

        • capt spaulding May 5, 2017 at 2:00 pm #

          Well thought out and well said, Helix. There are flaws in every system. The bottom line is whether you feel that it does you better in the long run. Respectfully: The capt.

          • Helix May 5, 2017 at 7:52 pm #

            Well, I think Social Security is a good program. First of all, everyone gets it, so it doesn’t pit one group against another in the same way as, for example, SNAP, AFDC, etc. Secondly, the enforced savings aspect of it helps keep consumer prices down. I have no doubt that prices would rise if that money was actually available to spend at the consumers’ discretion.

            As far as health care goes, I think the US system is abysmal. I would much prefer a government-run system to what we have now, or at the very least a system that subscribes to the principles in Karl Denninger’s manifesto.

            Ya, I know. Dream on, right?

          • windward May 7, 2017 at 9:06 pm #

            Capt. Spaulding rightly agrees with Helix that, in theory, Social Security is not socialism. Here is a definition of socialism:

            A system of society or group living in which there is no private property.

            The money a worker is forced to save under the Social Security program still belongs to the worker. It is his private property, understanding that money is fungible. He is not forced to share it with others.

            However, when the worker retires, he might live long enough to receive more money from Social Security than he paid in. In that case maybe it is socialism. I don’t know whether it is common, but I do know that Social Security is one of the best programs the government ever established. If it can ever be called socialism, that is no reason to change it.

            But Helix believes that the money deducted from the worker’s paycheck for Social Security is taxed twice. It is true that the income of some retirees is high enough to require the payment of income taxes. If that income includes Social Security payments, then the money from Social Security has been taxed once.

            I hope Helix will explain why he believes that it has been taxed twice. I am dubious about it, since the claim of double taxation is usually heard only from the rich, the parasites who can never have enough of anything and will destroy this country in order to get it.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 2:28 pm #

        People are justifiably terrified of Marxist socialism because of it’s war against America, Christianity, Western Civilization, and the White Race. The answer is an American National Socialism that repudiates all of these things – and endorses Capitalism as long as it plays ball with the Nation.

        • WoozyCanary May 5, 2017 at 6:07 pm #

          I bemoan the sad travails of the White Race every day. Most nights I have trouble sleeping, so wrenching is their lot. Is there some medication that will help with this?

          • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 7:31 pm #

            Yeah, hit yourself with a rubber hammer. Don’t hurt yourself, stupid! It’s just to simulate your latent brain cells – it’s not punishment or penance, thought that would be appropriate too. Ask and I’ll give you a penance.

        • DA May 5, 2017 at 10:14 pm #

          People are justifiably terrified of Marxist socialism because of it’s war against America, Christianity, Western Civilization, and the White Race

          Possibly the dumbest thing you’ve ever posted here Janos. You really do just dabble at higher learning, don’t you?

          • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 11:13 pm #

            Wtf? You know about the Conspiracy. How could you write such a thing? Your awakening must only be partial. Ok, spill it: which in the above list do you have trouble with? In other words, which do you hate and secretly applaud being destroyed?

          • DA May 5, 2017 at 11:53 pm #

            Maybe I misunderstood you, but how is Marxist Socialism against “America, Christianity, et al…, ” other than in the minds of western propagandists of course? And although I’m fully aware that “making amends” with capitalism might be considered a necessary first step in many/most camps, I’m equally aware that most capitalists (first and foremost – clever opportunists as they always are) would either reject such an olive branch outright, or accept it with daggers barely concealed.

            If you mean to imply irony, perhaps you should be a bit more explicit about it. But an “American National Socialism” that endorses capitalism will ALWAYS be a half-measure at best, and would thus be doomed to fail from the very start. Capitalism = Cancer. PERIOD! Capitalists are nothing more than individual malignant cells circulating within the global body politic spreading their virulent disease into the environment.

            Should we continue to grant them quarter with impunity? Look around, and YOU decide! For ME, I’ve seen quite enough of what capitalism and capitalists bring, and I’m not impressed. Death and destruction to yours, mine, and ours is what’s in our future, although you can bet that you’ll never hear THAT on the capitalist sponsored evening news anytime soon.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 6, 2017 at 4:10 am #

            National Socialism seeks justice and fulfillment for all classes of people. For some, commerce is life itself. Properly managed, their passion can be a boon to human life. And Capitalism can contribute to a civilization thru its diversity of products and fulfilling consumer demand. But obviously, it must be well regulated since these guy have trouble seeing life as a whole and love to turn everything into profit.

            There’s even a small place for medical capitalism – in research. That they’ve taken the whole system over is an atrocity of course. But consider: how many will work for decades to help humanity with no reward? How many Maria Cure’s are there? Few. The power is in the lower chakras for most. They want to be handsomely rewarded for their research – as well as getting their names on hospitals. The latter is simply no enough for most.

            Your question of how is Marxism against the West and America is just beyond me. Talk to them. Go to a demonstration. And the original ethos (not the theory per se) was that that the workers were encouraged to take vengeance on the Capitalists – including the middle class btw. That was bad enough. But it’s mutated: now the whole White Race is seen as the bourgeoisie and the non-Whites of the World as the proletariat. C’mon – LOOK. You can’t SEE if you won’t look.

        • Georges1202 May 7, 2017 at 4:12 am #

          Hopefully you write this trash from some kind of quarantine.

      • seawolf77 May 5, 2017 at 2:33 pm #

        I saw a coal miner with black lung on youtube and he voted for Trump, and now he’s terrified of losing his care. I mean c’mon. They vote for the party that wants to take away their health care. It’s dumbfounding, amazing and sad. Donald Trump did to Obamacare what Obama could never do: He made it popular.

        • capt spaulding May 5, 2017 at 2:45 pm #

          It may not be nice to say, seawolf, but now he gets to pay the price of his own stupidity. That’s what you get when you don’t inform yourself.

        • DA May 5, 2017 at 10:16 pm #

          They vote for the party that wants to take away their health care.

          Had the same thoughts over the past several days. Their only “excuse” is that Obamacare is truly “obaminable” as well.

        • Majella May 7, 2017 at 6:35 pm #

          But Seawolf – Trump promised quite the opposite, with his usual nonsensical word salad of lies & contradictions and downright boondoggling. This poor guy, along with so many others deluded by Trump’s lies and their own lack of incredulity & education, has have been victimised in the worst possible way.

    • snarkmatic9000 May 5, 2017 at 4:25 pm #

      a cogent response for once, right on. Luckily no moon landings or nukes were involved.

      Americans need to travel to Europe, get sick, and see how it’s done right.

  3. PostPeakRancher May 5, 2017 at 9:45 am #

    Excellent post about the bullsh*t rackets of healthcare in America. The thing I always thought was funny about the passing of Obamacare was how both parties’ cheerleaders were wildly hyperbolic about it. The DemProgs calling it basically a utopia in healthcare. The Repugs cheerleaders calling it Armageddon, sure to destroy the US within a week of passing.

    Of course, it was really a rearranging of deck chairs on the Titanic. And as you rightly point out: “[Obamacare] just added more victims to the rolls and upped the price of admission for a personal financial ass-raping, so that an insured individual could go to the hospital for an emergency appendectomy and end up getting dunned for thousands of dollars…”

    That is what Obamacare was designed to do of course. Not rock the boat of rackets too much…just bail them out by adding more insured patients with lots of Federal tax dollars and federal govt debt to subsidize it all. Obamacare was really a cautious and conservative foray into “reform.” As we know it was largely based on Romneycare. Romneycare had a proven record of lowering the uninsured and slowing the growth of premiums. It was a Republican plan and it was a very compromising start for the Obama admin.

    Instead of selling it as such, the DemProgs sold it to their base as revolutionary, utopian, yadda yadda. The Repugs disowned it completely and acted like their think tank Heritage Foundation never came up with it in the first place. And of course, both sides’ bases completely fell for it and we got a rearranging of deck chairs sold to America as a cure for a sinking ship.

    And the rest is history…

  4. Elrond Hubbard May 5, 2017 at 9:47 am #

    In the American civic religion, there’s one law that’s held sacrosanct above all others: the right to extract profits must not be interfered with.

    This law is rarely stated explicitly, but it’s widely understood and rigorously enforced. It’s so significant that it’s often confused with the other important American value, which is freedom. In fact, the right to extract is also called freedom, except this should be understood as shorthand for ‘Freedom [to make a buck, any way you can get away with]’. When you hear or read the word ‘freedom’ in the media, it’s crucial to consider whether the person speaking means actual freedom, as enshrined in the Bill of Rights, or the other kind of freedom. Once you start paying attention, you start to realize that they pretty much always mean the second kind.

    This is why laws like the Affordable Care Act happen: they’re purpose-built to give the widest possible berth around the extractive processes, i.e. what JHK accurately identifies as racketeering. But it’s not only health care. When you take into account the utter centrality of this hidden freedom to the American way of life, a lot of seemingly disparate phenomena click into place.

    • Walter B May 5, 2017 at 9:55 am #

      The right to extract profit…Well said and totally accurate. In fact our corrupt leadership now even guarantees that profits will be made (at least by insiders) whether they earn them or not! The American worker is even onboard with the idea (except for maybe the Fast Food workers) and quietly accepts the pay cuts and “benefit” cost increases in the name of increased bottom line and executive compensations and bonuses. The American worker has become a fool, chasing that proverbial carrot on the stick. Unfortunately for those that actually manage to get it into their mouths, they are greeted by the reality that it is not really a carrot but a penis painted orange,

      • Neon Vincent May 5, 2017 at 10:24 am #

        “The right to extract profit.”

        This makes the U.S. sound like the Ferengi from Star Trek with their rules of acquisition. Then again, they were introduced in the first episode of “Star Trek: The Next Generation” as being like Yankee Traders, so perhaps the comparison is not only apt, but deliberate.

        Since we’re on the subject of Star Trek and one of my favorite responses to our current situation is to tell people to drink heavily, I have some ‘Star Trek’ themed drinks for the show’s 50th anniversary. If one wishes to drink more, yesterday was Star Wars Day and one can drink to that franchise’s 40th anniversary, too. May the Farce be with you!

    • thwack May 5, 2017 at 10:14 am #

      Wasn’t it Hitler that dismissed the Brits as “a nation of shop keepers?”

      • ozone May 5, 2017 at 10:34 am #

        If this isn’t an invitation for your alter-ego to projectile vomit a truckload of off-topic blather (and attendant “conversation”), I don’t know what is.

        • thwack May 5, 2017 at 11:21 am #

          Sorry blozone,

          did I break your concentration?

          was not Adolph Hitler’s criticism of rampant British mercantilism a valid criticism of

          “one law that’s held sacrosanct above all others: the right to extract profits?”

          Please try to keep up.

          • ozone May 5, 2017 at 12:22 pm #

            Oh, I’m keeping up alright. I also know what comes next. This babe-in-the-woods ploy is just that.
            Try playing someone else… in both senses.

          • capt spaulding May 5, 2017 at 2:51 pm #

            Relax ozone, on the highway of life, he’s just roadkill.

          • S M Tenneshaw May 5, 2017 at 5:01 pm #

            thwacKKKuh, please.

      • acutance May 5, 2017 at 7:14 pm #

        No, it was Napoleon.

    • TiredOfTheTreadmill May 5, 2017 at 10:18 am #

      Spot on assessment. I call modern healthcare a mining operation. Always seeking a new rich vein from which to extract wealth.

      The idea of health insurance is a hustler’s dream come true. The fact that healthcare isn’t a basic human service in a civilized society is just once more BS “free market” propaganda hustle thrown at us by the money and power chasing assholes who run this show.

    • beantownbill. May 5, 2017 at 12:13 pm #

      Add me to the list praising your comment.

    • SvrzoH May 5, 2017 at 1:44 pm #

      “…and, you know, I’ll charge you a lot (for an alloy)! “


      Forgot whether she was raped after that conversation, or am I mixing it with “Fountainhead” rapes.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 2:33 pm #

      Yes, the right to make bank off human misery. They are trafficking in human flesh. Despicable.

      Yet the Emmanuel brothers lay waiting with medical ethics for the hoi polloi if Socialized Medicine ever really is attained – and that’s terrifying.

      National Socialism is only the answer; a Socialism based on our values and not Marx’s prejudice and rage.

      • Majella May 7, 2017 at 6:40 pm #

        and how would your beneficent “National Socialist” regime allocate healthcare resources and at what cost, Janos?

      • Majella May 7, 2017 at 6:41 pm #

        ..possibly more relevant, TO WHOMwould it allocate the resources, and who would be excluded?

  5. Walter B May 5, 2017 at 9:47 am #

    This is a subject that cannot be broadcast too often or too loudly, keep it up James. I am familiar with Denninger’s work and it is brilliant. It should be mandated that every American should be educated by him on this issue, but then, the political sellout scum bags might be forced to do some actual work and fix a problem instead of screwing it up more. In reality, health cannot be insured, it is simply NOT possible. What we have is simply a system where those who can pay are made to and those that cannot take advantage of them along with the lawyers, politicians, executives, and fat cat medial administrators at the top. Scare tactics and unfunded mandates are utilized by these thieves to assure that those who can still pay will go to any extreme, pay any price or go hopelessly into debt to keep that little plastic card in the wallets. I have always had a great dislike for clichés and euphemisms, but I find myself these days thinking more and more often that there is no reason “to give a sucker an even break” or that “a fool and his money are soon parted”. I suppose that true wisdom is far simpler than it would appear.

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    • beantownbill. May 5, 2017 at 12:21 pm #

      Does it bug you that the public won’t rise up against this obvious scam? It bugs me.

      • Helix May 5, 2017 at 12:44 pm #

        The public is too busy working its ass off trying to pay its taxes, mortgages, college tuitions, and health care premiums. Whatever time and energy it has left is spent bickering about capitalism vs. socialism.

      • Walter B May 5, 2017 at 2:05 pm #

        Yes it does, it aggravates the heck out of me. That I why I ran for office, got elected and am doing what I do to affect what change I can. It is probably pointless, but at least I can die fighting. Sheep are sheep for a reason, but they need sheepdogs, don’t they? I try to keep in mind that You Tube where the one wildebeest puts up a fight against the lions and the rest of the herd joints in to victory. Of course wildebeests ARE smarter than your Common American Idiot….


  6. wet dog May 5, 2017 at 9:52 am #

    A friend works for a “management consulting company”. One of their main lines of business is providing mgmt services to hospitals, medical centers, insurance companies. This is their main growth business at the moment.

    They bill out to these hospitals at $250 an hour. And that’s the price for a low-level schmuck with an ethnic studies degree and a veneer of management skills. The managers get more. You have 4 consultants working on a single project billing out at $1000 an hour. And these projects last months.

    And the medical centers love it. They want data analytics, BI is the new hotness. They want new “processes” to gain “greater efficiencies” using the latest techniques (which the consultants have studied up about 20 minutes earlier, so as to be hip with the lingo). Money is thrown everywhere. The fat boys there love the empires they govern.

    Keep running those charity fundraisers for the local Children’s Cancer center! $2000 raised gives you 6 hours of one consultant, while supporting his BMW and porn fixations, and giving the hospital administrators a bigger fiefdom. Yeah, you lose your house, but every case of Cancer generates more GDP! Never forget that. MAGA.

    (And please don’t investigate cannabis to care for your cancer, there’s no money in that.)

    • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 2:40 pm #

      My dental student spent an hour trying to teach me the new approved method of brushing one’s teeth. I told her that fiver years earlier the opposite was being taught and that five years hence another method would be propagated.

      She didn’t believe me. That is why youth should not be allowed to vote. They just don’t know enough yet. They haven’t seen the cycles cycle. Most people never will see and most people should never be allowed to vote.

      • WoozyCanary May 5, 2017 at 6:09 pm #

        Why stop with voting? Some people shouldn’t be allowed to live.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 7:40 pm #

          Life unworthy of Life, huh? Now you’re talking death panels a la Zeke Emmanuel. You have much promise, young man. As has oft been said, it’s easier to turn a Leftist to the Dark Light than a Conservative. As Christ said, I would have you hot or cold. The Lukewarm I shall spew out.

          • WoozyCanary May 5, 2017 at 8:16 pm #

            Perhaps your medications have passed their expiration date. Seek professional help soon.

          • Walter B May 7, 2017 at 1:08 pm #

            There are many who live and yet are not worthy of life, but that reality in itself is not a statement that advocates putting an end to these pathetic existences. On the contrary, it is a far more fitting punishment to ignore such dismal creatures and allow them to continue suffering that that they are stuck with. Perhaps even, there is the possibility that they may rise above the festering feces that is their lifep and become useful to society or at least to some other humans. A life is a terrible thing to waste yet it happens in far greater numbers as every year goes by. Junkies are a prime example for those who lack the imagination to understand what I am saying. And there are more, many more sadly.

  7. ozone May 5, 2017 at 10:05 am #

    “I can believe that both Democratic and Republican law-makers are not only in bed with the medical fraudsters of all categories, but are performing a particularly odious form of sadomasochistic bondage-and-discipline sex in exchange for payoffs. Note, too, that none of the aforementioned major media have reported what the medical and insurance lobbyists have paid to their rent-boys and doxies in the US capitol. Wouldn’t you like to know?”

    I *would* like to know!
    …And since these venal shit-slingers get their medical services for absolutely *nothing*, the height of hypocrisy is nicely represented.
    (It’s disgusting.)

  8. Dumbedup May 5, 2017 at 10:16 am #

    Get big money out of politics and a lot of this goes away. The people who ostensibly represent us in Washington cannot get elected without wiping the boots of the medical, insurance, finance, and defense industry.

    A few minutes ago I watched a video about the launch of the USS Tripoli. It is one of the largest ships in the world called an “amphibious assault vessel. One is already in service and another will be built. The article says the cost was originally 2.38 billion but will be 3.1 billion when it is outfitted.

    Who are we planning to assault amphibiously?

    How long would it take to blow this thing out of the water with a cruise missile from 1500 miles away.

    We waste money on crap we “might” need, but probably will not, and then deny the basic necessities of life to people who need it “now” in order to live.

    • RobH May 5, 2017 at 10:28 am #

      I agree

      The UK was moaning that the EU didn’t spend enough on defense. The Germans spend more on foreign aid. There must be a balance between stopping ‘them’ attacking us, and us ‘helping them’ have better lives and more successful future

      3 billion buys a lot of opportunity at home or abroad

      Sounds like quite a big toy to play with though… maybe its just gizzmos they’re after?

      • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 2:43 pm #

        Well it goes well beyond that: they are helping other countries to invade us now. The German military just keep order as the invaders pour in – and of course protect the aliens from the rage of the German people.

        • Q. Shtik May 5, 2017 at 3:24 pm #

          In a related matter, Janos, what are your thoughts on Le Pen and the French election on Sunday?

          • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 7:36 pm #

            We have invoked Kek by portraying Marine as a Pepe. What else can we do now by wait, hope, and pray?

            As you know, Pepe is an avatar of Kek, the Green Frog God.

    • fineline May 5, 2017 at 10:57 am #

      Get the money out of politics and into the treasury and we could stop deficit spending and even start chinking away at the National Debt.

  9. RobH May 5, 2017 at 10:20 am #

    The operation of free market providers, working to a specification, and within agreed prices, works well in a some walks of life. A regulated market. A ‘constrained’ free market

    For example, a district demands what routes a bus will run. Private companies then bid to run the service. e.g. London. Private companies all run red buses on agreed routes and win or lose contracts to do so. It is not the case that no one bothers to bid!
    Like workers who have to take less to keep their jobs, or get more efficient

    Government insists that insurance companies get competitve quotes and hospitals bid for the work to agreed specification. A limit can be set. It drives innovation

    That’s the rub though. You need regulation. Someone has to set limits. Like being adult. Like a parent!

    It is like saying ‘One BMW’ max, unless you can do more cataract operations successfully for the same price. Then have two

    I don’t see the difference than in other areas. Someone invented an LED light bulb that uses less energy than a filament bulb. The power companies arent allowed to ban them!

    Regulation could really give you a good system. But a few very very rich people would lose out, so it isnt going to happen

  10. ozone May 5, 2017 at 10:23 am #

    Let’s see now….
    Our Rep., [the honorable] Richard E. Neal packed his war-chest with funds from the Insurance, Securities and Investment, Pharmaceutical and Health Products, Health Professional, Accountants rackets.

    …but you surely can tell by the way he talks that he represents us little shits.
    (Righty-o; being a professional liar is nice “work” if you can get it.)

    Here’s where you can find whom your “representative” and “congress-person” is beholden to:


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    • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 2:47 pm #

      If a Hitler arises, will you support him? Because that’s what it will take. Marching with the Communists is a bad idea, Zone. Soros own them.

      • elysianfield May 5, 2017 at 7:16 pm #

        If a Hitler arises, will you support him?”

        I…I thought we did….

        • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 7:34 pm #

          I share you grief, brother. We were betrayed at home. It all seemed too easy and it was. The Nazis, denied access to the media, took their message to the streets. Over the next 13 years, they lost 300 men, with 25,000 wounded. But they triumphed in the end.

          • elysianfield May 5, 2017 at 7:48 pm #

            Yes, Janos, and they were fighting the same ideology that we are now. History repeats. Who will be our Horst Wessel?

  11. pequiste May 5, 2017 at 10:31 am #

    Do not forget that the ass raping one experiences by the “health care system” will be without any lube.

    I was told by a very nice nurse practitioner that at the medical center where she works (owned and operated by a not-to-be -named mega-corporation) has no “chapel” or anything like it. When asked why not and don’t people need a quiet space to to think about the bottom line of being human: birth, health, accidents, sickness, fragility of life, mortality and perhaps even immortality; she said the hospital’s ownership didn’t have spare room for it; waiting rooms took up enough space. But they built one hell of a God damned new four-level parking garage. Demonic.

    • thwack May 5, 2017 at 11:26 am #

      Do they have a Muslim prayer room?

    • Q. Shtik May 5, 2017 at 12:32 pm #

      I’ll take a medical center with a parking garage rather than a chapel, every time.

      …and speaking of chapels, I was in Dubai 7 or 8 years ago. I was in one of their numerous gigondo sparkling retail malls. I needed to use ‘the facilities’ and followed the signs………. down an escalator and left into a men’s room. A man stood on one foot with the other [bare] foot hoisted up and into one of the wash basins that we Americans assume are only for the washing of hands. Had he been a few inches shorter he could not have performed this gymnastic move.

      I did my business while pondering (???) the man on one foot. As I exited the restroom I got my answer. There, nearby, were doors to his and her mosques.

  12. Lawfish May 5, 2017 at 10:32 am #

    $5,999? My daughter, a freshman in a private college (substantial academic scholarships), got sick last semester. So she reported to the campus clinic. The clinic couldn’t help her, so they called an ambulance to take her to the ER. The bill: $14,000!! I don’t even think they gave her any medication.

    What a racket!

  13. ccm989 May 5, 2017 at 10:48 am #

    Funny thing about that Obamacare. We were all told repeatedly how terrible it is and how it is going bankrupt. So the Republicans decided to “repeal and replace” it. Now the really funny thing is, Congress kept Obamacare for itself. Can you imagine that? Guess its not so terrible after all. To bad, regular Americans didn’t get to keep it. Guess only the King’s butt kissers get to do that.

    • fineline May 5, 2017 at 11:03 am #

      Congress is not on ObamaCare. They have something much better.

      The Federal Employees Health Insurance Program

      ” The Federal Employees Health Insurance Program features “managed competition”, with private insurance providers, labor unions and other employee associations offering the plans. The plans are sold at a fee, and are available not just for the president and members of the congress, but for all federal employees. The program provides over 300 private health care plans that covers the president, senators, congressmen, down to the janitors who clean the White House.

      Now, before you react violently that congressmen and the president enjoy “gold-plated” insurance plans using your tax dollars, this is not actually the case. Members of Congress are also charged with their fair share of the premiums, so that they are not all that different from a federally employed janitor.”

  14. fineline May 5, 2017 at 10:53 am #

    So my cousin was suffering from stroke symptons about three years ago. We rushed him to the hospital which happened to be a certified stroke center. Upon arrival, they rushed him right in and then had to summon the MRI and CATSCAN people from home.

    After arriving about a half hour later, in a situation where every minute is important, they ran their tests and were happy to report that my cousin was definitely NOT having a stroke.

    But they decided to keep him overnight in the ICU for observation.
    Sometime during the night, while the ICU attendants played on their smart phones, my cousin suffered a crippling acute stroke.

    The morning shift discovered him in this condition and made the decision to fly him by helicopter to another hospital where they were “better able to handle stroke patients”.
    We waited until they removed him to the roof for the helicopter ride and then we left and drove to the hospital where we arrived some 15 minutes before the helicopter.
    They repeated the tests at the new hospital and concluded that he had a stroke and that the time for any type of intervention had passed.
    THey kept him for a few days and then shipped him off to a rehabilitation clinic.

    Shortly thereafter, the bills started arriving including a $23,000 price tag for the helicopter ride. That is not a misprint. TWENTY THREE THOUSAND.
    Other bills included “pricey” bills from three doctors who claimed to “treat” him at all three locations. “Treatment” in these instances amounted to just walking in and breathing the same air in the room. punctuated with a few “How are you feeling today?”‘s and “Who is the President?” and “What day of the week is it?”
    It turned out the three doctors were all the same person operating under three different businesses with different combinations of his three part Indian name.
    Translation. This immigrant was making a practice of charging unsuspecting patients three times.

    My cousin has great insurance, not ObamaCare, and he was perceived as a target by any body who could put their meter up.

    If not for his wife, who attempts to understand every bill that passes through and unveiled the triple billing, the fraud would have prevailed.

    • thwack May 5, 2017 at 11:37 am #

      Shortly thereafter, the bills started arriving including a $23,000 price tag for the helicopter ride. That is not a misprint. TWENTY THREE THOUSAND.


      Thats about right. Helicopters are a nightmare of moving parts requiring constant maintenance; and thats with no sand and no one shooting at you.

      Just sayin

      • Hughie the Sailor May 5, 2017 at 12:04 pm #

        And there aren’t too many people who privately own helicopters for the very good reasons that you just mentioned. To expect a victim to pay such an exorbitant cost personally is, frankly, fucked. American health care is a cruel joke.

    • malthuss May 5, 2017 at 1:54 pm #

      Other bills included “pricey” bills from three doctors who claimed to “treat” him at all three locations.

      Yes, Mds that make the rounds, not treating people but looking for
      sedated or senile people, to bill.

  15. elysianfield May 5, 2017 at 11:13 am #

    Useless eater here. Medicare, Type “F” supplementary rider…and end of life extended care further provided by Smith and Wesson…. What little wealth I have accumulated I will leave to my unworthy heirs and assigns…not the Health Care System.

    Regarding “ass raping”…could our own FlavianPlot have been describing his “poignant” upbringing? Considering his arrogance, Ego and outright hostility, a prison term is not to be considered out of the question…and I hear some offer “advanced degrees”….

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    • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 2:53 pm #

      Oregon allows for legal suicide, the only state that does I think. But I agree that a bottle of Scotch and a Smith and Wesson is far more romantic.

      • elysianfield May 5, 2017 at 7:21 pm #

        With all respect…Fuck what Oregon allows. It would be my decision without their approval.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 7:42 pm #

          Well of course. I salute you. But not everyone wants to go out by their own hand, or owns the means to do it – or possesses the fortitude. Thus the medical way is good for them.

      • Helix May 5, 2017 at 7:58 pm #

        Or maybe just two bottles of scotch.

      • jloughrey May 7, 2017 at 1:32 am #

        The problem with the assisted suicide law in Oregon is that there is a 30 day waiting period, presumably to make sure that the person requesting it understands the ramifications.The request has to be signed off on by two different doctors. For someone who is in agonizing pain or near death, the option is useless. I know this all too well, having taken care of my ex-husband, who had no health insurance when he became seriously ill because he was self-employed and had a pre-existing condition. As a result, he did not obtain the treatment he needed early on and died at just 59. He suffered so much at the end that he asked for the assisted suicide option, but it wasn’t available in a reasonable amount of time. Pointing a gun at your head is far more effective because you are in control. FYI there are five states that allow assisted suicide: Oregon, Washington, California, Colorado and Vermont. Wash. DC allows it also.

  16. elysianfield May 5, 2017 at 11:39 am #

    On another note;

    Chinese general calls for “Rebenstraum”….


  17. Hughie the Sailor May 5, 2017 at 11:57 am #

    I can’t for the life of me understand how the American health “care” system has managed to continue to operate in such a manner. Denzel Washington did a movie along these lines a while back. Desperate people do desperate things. As a father, I can understand perfectly why a broke dad might take a hostage until his kid gets dialysis.

    If this GOP grudge-fuck actually makes it into law, a lot of “2nd Amendment folks” are going to get very angry very quickly.

    • JMR May 5, 2017 at 3:13 pm #

      Another good example: Breaking Bad. The whole premise of Walter White cooking meth was so he could afford his cancer treatments. Doesn’t seem all that far fetched to me.

      • Hughie the Sailor May 5, 2017 at 5:05 pm #

        Right! I loved the series, but had a hell of a time wrapping my head around the premise. If Breaking Bad isn’t a damnation of American medicine, I don’t know what is.

  18. beantownbill. May 5, 2017 at 12:02 pm #

    Geez, Jim, another great commentary. I’ve been saying the same thing about healthcare for a long time. I’m particularly gratified that you mention Denninger because he has railed against the current system extensively, and has nailed the crux of the healthcare problem.

    Unfortunately, the CFN comments section is rife with racist and anti-Semitic posts, which diverts attention from healthcare and other important issues, and which proves your point about Americans not being able to have rational discourse.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 2:57 pm #

      Racial medicine is cutting edge stuff, Bill. Some drugs don’t work on Blacks and some that work on Blacks don’t work on Whites. Would treat all the same? Would you risk lives for your bogus religion of Equality?

      Mixed race people? A disaster if they want to get organ transplants. People do best with an organ from their own race.

      Talk to some doctors, Bill. You have a lot to learn. Ask them about life after death while you’re at it. Patients often leave their bodies during surgeries and can prove it by reporting what they’ve seen while supposedly unconscious.

      • thwack May 5, 2017 at 11:06 pm #

        if you are a white person and the “white drug” doesn’t work on you; are you still a white person?

        or should you be summarilly hung from a tree?

    • S M Tenneshaw May 6, 2017 at 3:39 am #

      Well, you know how it is, Bill. Jagoffs gotta jag.

  19. volodya May 5, 2017 at 1:01 pm #

    “I believe in free markets” is the mantra.

    America stands for “free markets” doesn’t it? Well, doesn’t it? If it doesn’t stand for “free markets” then what does it stand for?

    To answer the question, what it stands for is legalized malfeasance. The American Way is to give elite interests every conceivable advantage. So, for example, if some outrage is outside the bounds of written law, then what do the malefactors do? They get the law re-written. Obamacare apparently wasn’t abusive enough so it needs a re-do. Wall Street got Glass-Steagall repealed. Now it’s Dodd Frank.

    Sometimes there’s new and exciting abuses where there’s no law. To cover their ass they get legal cover, that is, they get something in writing. Like a “Free Trade” Treaty. But you have to justify the rip-off. Of course it’s not called a “rip-off”. The stage magician economists entrusted with mis-direction give it a new name. They’ll say it’s for over-all betterment. Or they’ll say it’s for “growth”. We’re all for “growth” aren’t we?

    The other way is the Comey Option. When the Washington swamp starts to stink too much, like with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the FBI conducts a diligent “investigation”. In the meantime, Mr Wolf (Tm Pulp Fiction) gets to the scene and barks orders “pretty please with sugar on top” to dispose of evidence. And they get out the bleach-bits and wipe up the mess. Of course nobody, especially not the FBI, raises the question of obstruction. Why? Because that would be unseemly. Because the whole idea from the start is obstruction.

    Imagine, law enforcement as clean-up crew. Hillary the Elephant. Comey the man with the shovel. As Comey showed us, all you need to bury a pile of shit is to not find criminal intent ie the Elephant didn’t mean to. Simple and ingenious, no? Besides, even the biggest pile of shit can be so hard to find, especially when you’re not looking.

  20. Ishabaka May 5, 2017 at 1:04 pm #

    I’m always a bit suspicious of people who have the only right answers to everything – and that describes Denninger.

    For example: Denninger would not allow hospitals, doctors, or nurses to get paid for the treatment of any complication of anything medical.

    If any of you can practice medicine, and run a hospital with no complications ever – have at it.

    Second – if any of you are willing to spend 7 years training after you get a bachelor’s degree, some of that training involving working all day and all night without sleep for four days and three nights, followed a decade or so later by being responsible for taking care of a violent, out of control college wrestling team member high on GHB at 2:30 am for enough dough to afford a used Honda Civic – have at it.

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    • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 3:01 pm #

      Well they should certainly make a good living. But that being said, becoming a doctor needn’t be a marathon of horror. That’s pure Americana. Europe doesn’t put people thru that from what I’ve heard.

      Being able to work for 36 hours without sleep is a rare gift – perhaps essential for a battlefield physician. But it has nothing to do with being a good doctor per se.

      • thwack May 5, 2017 at 7:59 pm #

        Being able to work for 36 hours without sleep is a rare gift


        no its not, its called USING DRUGS.

        Ive always found it strange that doctors and nurses don’t have to submit to random drug tests like proles with shitty retail or blue collar jobs…?

        • elysianfield May 6, 2017 at 6:18 pm #

          “Ive always found it strange that doctors and nurses don’t have to submit to random drug tests ”

          It is because they are GODS.

          What I’ve never understood is why they structure the residency requirements to sleep-deprive the residents. I understand why they do so to recruits in military boot camp, but hospitals should have people in better mental shape than long shifts allow…it seems counter-intuitive…you cannot learn to operate without sleep…it is not a muscle that can be exercised and strengthened.

  21. Hughie the Sailor May 5, 2017 at 1:08 pm #

    I’m Canadian and while our health care system has lots of flaws – (dental care isn’t universal, for example), I’ve only ever received excellent service. That said, I offer this anecdote not as a gloat, but to provide context.

    Monday I was called by a family friend that my 85 y/o dad was being taken to the hospital via ambulance. He was fighting a fever, had bad bronchitis, and was dehydrated. He received a chest x-ray, 2 L of saline, steroids, antibiotics, and lunch. The ER Doctor was able to spend a total of 15 minutes with dad, learning his background as well as a brief telcon with his family doctor. The excellent ER nurse spent an additional 20 minutes with us. He was there for 4 hours and because he had support at home (me) he was discharged with instructions. He’s now home, the hospital arraigned for a nurse to conduct several home visits over the next couple of weeks.

    Total cost: $25 for the ambulance. That’s it.

    Jim’s right: the debate over American health care isn’t about health care. It’s really about the monetization of every aspect of the American commonweal – the destruction of everything that makes your country worth living in and fighting for.

    • Q. Shtik May 5, 2017 at 2:11 pm #

      $25 for the ambulance!?!?

      haaaha ha ha bwah haha… $25, that’s a good one.

      Here in NJ, if medical transportation (ie an ambulance) is required you’re talking $700 – $800.

      If there is any conceivable way to shoehorn your patient into your family car that is what you should do.

      p.s. arraigned = call or bring (someone) before a court to answer a criminal charge

      • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 3:02 pm #

        You’re right Q – our system is better. It makes more money for the shareholders!

  22. Buck Stud May 5, 2017 at 1:25 pm #

    While I agree with JKH concerning the cost/pricing aspect of the insurance/medical industry, JHK presents a false equivalency in terms of who is responsible for the cruel, vicious economic exploitation within the current medical paradigm –not an idealized ‘how it should be ‘ paradigm–and that responsibility party is the GOP.

    Moreover, just because you type “Obamacare” don”t assume all of the very flawed aspects which are numerous, lay solely at the feet of the Democratic Party/Obama. In fact, every step of the way, the GOP was fighting against any sort of humane/ civilized dispensation of health care/insurance as the recent –yesterday– inclusion of pre-existing condition chicanery by the GOP clearly demonstrates–again and again (one doesn’t have to page through past arcane history to prove this very obvious point.)

    Furthermore, every step of the the way, the GOP not only didn’t support “Obamacare” they actively sought to sabotage it’s most beneficial aspects to the middle class and poor such as the Marco Rubio/GOP attack on the “risk corridor” aspect of the ACA along with Red State governors/legislatures denying their constituents the medicaid expansion.

    So no, this assertion that ” They are simply putting up a defense of their previous psychological investment in Democratic Party ideology — in the shibboleth that ObamaCare was unquestionably a great thing because it was created under the magically empowered 44th president.” is nothing but false equivalency bullshit.

    In fact, a majority of Democratic party members prefer a public option or single payer/medicare for all type of system but back in 2008-10 the country was lucky to get a very flawed “Obamacare’ thanks to the active obstruction/sabotage of the GOP.

    And I type “lucky” because if any form of the house bill becomes law not only will people with pre-existing conditions be royally ‘fucked in the ass’ but employers will be free to cross state lines and offer their formerly adequately covered employees some piece of shit plan out of Red State Mississippi or Alabama coverage that doesn’t even offer basic amenities as was required under “Obamacare”.


    So yes, a different paradigm would be preferable, but in the world of reality, make no mistake which political party seeks to fuck Main Street in the medical insurance ass and it ain’t the Democratic Party.

    • malthuss May 5, 2017 at 1:55 pm #

      How to stop criminals? Russian insurance scams?
      See ‘Finelines’ post.

      My response,
      Other bills included “pricey” bills from three doctors who claimed to “treat” him at all three locations. [Fineline]

      Yes, Mds that make the rounds, not treating people but looking for
      sedated or senile people, to bill.

  23. GhostOfHam May 5, 2017 at 1:38 pm #

    I know Jim avoids conspiracy; however, its getting hard not to see the plans of mice and men just about everywhere now-a-days. All the world’s a stage and each man plays his part. The old saying that the fish rots from the head down might be appropriate in these times. It’s not like everyone’s going to all-of-a-sudden get up and (become) al-mighty rightous & moral just now (Hello Brother Jobe). Everyone’s going to want in on the graft. Their all going to want in on the exemption of the legal law. As Dmitry Orlov has noted somewhere, paraphrasing him, it’ll get to a point where one day you’ll need to hire your own personal goon for protection. For the moment though, the main show is exemplified in Federal and State “Legal” fraud. And who writes the Legal? Well, we know from the Princeton study that its not the common man — it’s a club, but its not that big, yet you and I not likely in it.



    Look at 42 U.S.C. 1981. (A) and you’ll crack open the window to how this works:

    “All persons within the jurisdiction of the United States shall have the same right in every State and Territory to make and enforce contracts, to sue, be parties, give evidence, and to the full and equal benefit of all laws and proceedings for the security of persons and property as is enjoyed by white citizens, and shall be subject to like punishment, pains, penalties, taxes, licenses, and exactions of every kind, and to no other.”

    Did you see that? You have, under the Equal rights of the law, an EQUAL BENEFIT to a RIGHT, to a given dispensation, to do something which is otherwise not allowed by law to participate as a citizen, to be as a SUBJECT, inside their in-juri-sdiction. . . the same right to be subjected to “exactions of every kind. . . .” You literally, yes legally, have a right once you come voluntarily into the framework with your commercial person, a benefit to choose to be a participatory citizen in an exception form the law, vulnerable to . . . .

    Exaction –

    “The wrongful act of an officer or other person in compelling payment of a fee or reward for his services, under color of his official authority, where no payment Is due. Between “extortion” and “exaction” there is this difference: that in the former case the officer extorts more than his due, when something is due to him; in the latter, he exacts what is not his due, when there is nothing due to him. Co. Litt. 368.”

    Law Dictionary: What is EXACTION? definition of EXACTION (Black’s Law Dictionary) http://thelawdictionary.org/exaction/

    This exaction can and does include medical “healthcare.”

    • Q. Shtik May 5, 2017 at 2:37 pm #

      A little too dense for my weak mind, Ham. Who do you think I am, Neil Gorsuch?

  24. islander800 May 5, 2017 at 1:39 pm #

    America is the only “civilized” country on earth that does not treat health care as a basic human right of its citizens. The ONLY answer is a government-managed, non-profit, universal, single-payer health care system – like every other civilized nation on earth has.

    Here’s an example of what such a system would look like. Here in British Columbia, the monthly cost of coverage for a family is about $150, typical among Canadian provinces. No exclusions for “pre-existing conditions”. No one dies due to lack of health care coverage. No one goes bankrupt because they can’t pay their health care bills. Heck, even street people have coverage because low income people don’t have to pay ANY premiums. EVERYONE is covered.

    How to achieve it in America? Step one: overturn Citizens United, to reform campaign financing. Step two: overhaul lobbyist rules so that, along with Super PACS, members of congress aren’t bought and paid for before they even arrive on Capital Hill. And finally, step three: finance it by taxing the self-serving assholes at the top of the food chain and let them squeal – see step one and two. Anyone with a memory would know that it would just be restoring a SMALL PART of the taxes they used to pay in America in the 1950s and 1960s before the republican wrecking crew gained power.

    How likely is this to happen? Don’t hold your breath. And for God’s sake, don’t have a pre-existing medical condition, because under this Act, you already have a death sentence.

    As Chris Kristofferson wrote and sang, “Freedom’s just another word for nothin’ left to lose”.

    • GhostOfHam May 5, 2017 at 2:43 pm #

      You write as a common person with the colloquial meaning of civilized, but do you recognize that “civilized” in the law does not refer to anything emotional, empathic, or moral? You are asking the law of man, which is fiction created under the conspiratorial parliaments and congresses of con/federation(s) to respect the natural person — not the legal person — and it will never — or, at least, it hasn’t for thousands of years.

      Once you contract for services offered by the (embodied person of) a corporate (sole) regime you are no longer a “private citizen” but rather a public citizen subject to extraction by law.

      What is CIVILIAN?
      One who is skilled or versed in the civil law. [We are NOT versed]. A doctor, professor, or student of the civil law. Also a private citizen, as distinguished from such as belong to the army and navy or (in England) the church.


      I won’t get into it here, except to say that social security and most all the world’s countries’ healthcare programs are a part of an offer by an international insurance racket somewhat administered by an association, which induces persons to contract for services, and thus keep them public, with the rights aforementioned in my earlier post.


      • GhostOfHam May 5, 2017 at 2:45 pm #

        extraction above should read “exaction”

      • Buck Stud May 5, 2017 at 3:28 pm #

        “You write as a common person with the colloquial meaning of civilized, but do you recognize that “civilized” in the law does not refer to anything emotional, empathic, or moral?”

        And you write with a mechanical interpretation; as if “The Law” is an a-priori given; that legal minds have no need to “interpret” that which is viewed as infallible and from high and above. Which of course is patently ridiculous, witness all the divergent court rulings over the centuries

        Law/civics is an amplification/permutation of philosophy and specifically, the philosophy of Ethics.

        First things first, or as Janos likes to write, to cite a distant analogy, do humans serve technology, or technology, humans?

        • GhostOfHam May 5, 2017 at 6:24 pm #

          Legal minds DO interpret what is LEGAL under the law, but not the Law, and, under the legal administration of the Law, one often comes to believe what is (passed as) legal is lawful, and he is often inculcated or otherwise persuaded to participate (perhaps partly by custom) and is consequently ensnared in a automatic trap of exceptional fiction. Look at the United States Constitution as as an example of where all the rights and privileges are granted — licensed — and then straight away excepted, so that, if you consent, you are in debt to its legal strictures. Under such a debt contract there is no political solution. One must give unto the King what is due him, and then he must stop contracting with him (or “it”). Otherwise, one’s benefits, obligations, and duties to it remain in force, and otherwise one’s natural relationship with others becomes intermediated by a living hell, a debtor’s prison, where “the worm dies not” in a syncretic combination of legal, regulatory, bureaucratic, and technocratic simulation of life — to the point that no one can differentiate between what is authentic and what is simulacrum. One’s legal personhood in commerce is (so) mind melded into the same thing as the surety of that legal actor that no one can tell the difference anymore. Food becomes vitamins and organics, growing food becomes agriculture, movement becomes transportation, talking and friendship becomes communications, health becomes “healthcare,” cities become zoned districts, and so on, and it all happens in the virtual space of what is Legal — the exception to the law. And your voluntary consent makes you a slave to it. Makes you a victim. As Jim likes to note, you got to stop expecting something for nothing. But the benefits, oh my . . . the benefits!

          Personally, I think I might actually like living in A World Made by Hand. Many other people — well, maybe not so much. The irony of this notion is not lost on me though as I write all this down on a computer.

          I recall Aristotle writing somewhere in the Nicomachean Ethics that it doesn’t matter a fact has been provided. No one will act of knowledge unless one is activated by his or her emotion — and I’d add too, not unless all the neighbors do it too. And, if I recall right, somewhere, someone, I think it might have been John Greer, has written that this apocalypse is, in time, a Long Emergency. It’s the creepy unfolding of the Revelation of the ages where, maybe someday, we all realize that there are some damn-ass Evil people in the world vigilantly attempting to enslave or kill humanity through what is Legal — and that includes “healthcare.”

          • DA May 6, 2017 at 12:10 am #

            Thanks GhostofHam, your points are well taken. As I age into my 60’s, I’ve come to view “the law” as little more than a general consensus of what humans of a certain age and dominant political/social status (dogs with the loudest bark, if you will) view as “right and proper.”

            Moreover, it amuses me even more that anyone else could ever imagine otherwise.

            Keep up the good work!

          • Buck Stud May 6, 2017 at 1:07 am #

            Yes GhostOfHam, good work as DA wrote–I appreciate the distinction you make between legal and the law and your thoughtful post overall.

            Hope to read more from you in the future

          • thwack May 6, 2017 at 4:38 am #

            Everything the Nazis did was legal.

            Just sayin

    • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 3:10 pm #

      True, but the Government can’t be trusted. You’ve given them absolute power of your bodies and they’re choosing to replace Whites with people of other colors. Christianity is persecuted and the BC parliament opens up with an Indian prayer.

  25. Buck Stud May 5, 2017 at 1:44 pm #

    Another fly-in-the-ointment in the current medical industry is the hyper reliance on sophisticated technology. As the old saying goes, if one really goes looking, one is bound to find “something”.

    The probably with finding “something”–especially if a person is otherwise feeling fine–is that something may very well turn out to be nothing but “nothing”can’t be verified before all sorts of expensive sophisticated testing has been performed.

    Indeed, many of us have been falsely diagnosed –by an heart “echogram” for instance–only to find out after thousands of dollars and much mental/emotional anguish that it was all a false alarm. ( “I have what?”…I can run for miles and miles and miles and not get tired–WTF!?)

    Does a person really want to know if they have a small aneurysm bulging in their brain when in all likelihood it will not cause them any problems as opposed to knowing of the aneurysm via expensive technologically advanced testing and living life as if every moment in life is one step away from a banana peel slip, fall and aneurysm burst in one’s own brain?

    Perhaps, for the sake of one’s own wallet and sanity, not every medical possibility needs to be examined and confirmed/rejected via expensive technologically advanced testing. (And oh by the way, go ‘looking here’ and you might find something ‘there’; [and there are plenty of hypochondriacs bleeding the system dry, terrorized into fearful submission by a non-stop onslaught of pharmaceutical marketing via TV screen.}) But in the current medical/insurance/legal paradigm, a good old fashioned personal physician doesn’t dare discourage ‘further tests’ for fear of being legally destroyed.

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    • DA May 5, 2017 at 9:37 pm #

      Great points Buck!

      • DA May 5, 2017 at 9:38 pm #

        Looks like I’ve been released from purgatory now.

  26. bayfieldkelly May 5, 2017 at 1:48 pm #

    Have been reading Karl Denninger for years. All excellent.

    I am thankful I moved to Canada 40 years ago. I just picked my $292.00 perscription but paid zero for it. Free for folks over 65.
    Eye exams free as well.

  27. Buck Stud May 5, 2017 at 1:59 pm #

    And…’looks like you might have some prostate cancer; better cut it out altogether just to be safe’.

    Yes, just to be “safe”. Nevermind that many die with the disease, not because of it. And if you opt out for “wait and watch” are you really going to feel safe, or at least, mentally comforted?

    Both prostate and cancer are gone, but one now has a “bend in the middle” when trying to lay wood into the old lady.

    ( ” Hey, did I mention that 40,000 pump up penis? It works everytime!)

    • thwack May 5, 2017 at 2:35 pm #

      I developed Tinea Versacola and the doctor prescribed this type of coal tar soap.

      But I think it was from too much sugar because when I was poor and could no longer afford it, and drank coffee without it, the rash went away and never came back.

      • capt spaulding May 5, 2017 at 2:56 pm #

        Careful, coal tar soap will turn your skin white.

      • elysianfield May 5, 2017 at 7:41 pm #

        I dated her sister, Tina Versacola, and the doctor prescribed antibiotics.

      • malthuss May 5, 2017 at 9:35 pm #

        that is a confusing sentence.
        drank coffee w/o the coal?

    • Q. Shtik May 5, 2017 at 2:58 pm #

      As my b-i-l Peter has often mentioned, he has a problem with his prostrate.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 3:13 pm #

        Tell us your fantasy of homicide anent poor Pete.

  28. janet May 5, 2017 at 2:19 pm #

    “I am thankful I moved to Canada 40 years ago. I just picked my $292.00 perscription but paid zero for it. Free for folks over 65.” –bayfieldkelly

    And lest anyone think it is only Canada, or only European countries, or only developed countries who can provide free health care, I have been treated in emergency rooms in rural India, in South America, without having to fill out papers, without having to pay money, without anyone even mentioning the word “insurance” … because they were only interested in one thing: patient well-being.

    My experience, as a patient, in public socialized hospitals and rural clinics in developing countries has only been positive.

    Of course, those countries do not spend a trillion dollars a year on war, militarism, and “intelligence services” … so they have money to really care about health care, even for hapless tourists.

  29. DurangoKid May 5, 2017 at 2:21 pm #

    There seems to be only two precepts in US governance. #1, the rich must be made whole and #2, the only way to protect a fortune is to increase a fortune.

  30. nsa May 5, 2017 at 2:30 pm #

    In between complaining about everything, did any CFNers take advantage of humble NSA’s advice of several weeks ago to short oil when it was $53? The advice was to sell a single NYMEX oil 1000 barrel contract (CL) using reduced leverage. Crude is now down below 46 and the trade is ahead about 40%. Depending on your risk tolerance, cover below 40 or at least install a tight trailing stop. Oil could revisit 35 or even 30 before the end of the year….so might be able to afford an emergency room visit for an ingrown toenail.

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    • windward May 5, 2017 at 10:30 pm #

      Consuelo Mack will be so excited.

  31. chipshot May 5, 2017 at 2:59 pm #

    Insurance company execs must be ecstatic the country is debating
    Obamacare vs Trumpcare, because they win bigly either way.

    Single payer is the only plan with a chance of long term success,
    but even it is likely to get exceedingly expensive since our overall
    health is as poor as it is.

    In the meantime there is a window of opportunity for walk-in clinics to generate a lot of business.

  32. JMR May 5, 2017 at 3:30 pm #

    So my wife went to see an ENT. Our insurance states that co-pay for a specialist is $50.00. She gets a bill for $1,600 for an office visit! Turns out because she saw him in a “cancer hospital” where his office is and thus she has no other choice but to see him there, she is charged a “facility fee” plus God knows what other fabricated charges. Bait and switch all the way.

    Her reply? I’m not paying it. I’ll pay you the 50 bucks that we agreed to, but you can eat the rest of the costs.

    Same thing happened to me at the same hospital. Go to see a counselor and asked specifically how much the cost was going to be. Answer: Co-pay of 50.00 dollars. I get a bill for $250, plus the 50, plus labs, etc. I pay everything but the 250 because that was not what I agreed to. I got a lot of collection calls and lots of letters in the mail, but I ignored all of it and eventually it stopped.

    Were there any negative repercussions to not paying something I didn’t agree to pay in the first place? Not that I can tell.

    My examples are small compared to many of the horror stories out there, but my point is that as patients/customers of this f’ed up system stop paying these bills and start asking more questions up front, the system is going to have to adjust.

    • Q. Shtik May 5, 2017 at 4:00 pm #

      Were there any negative repercussions to not paying something I didn’t agree to pay in the first place? Not that I can tell.


      Well, JMR, have you ever had to act as an executor of a will? You will have a hell of a time distributing the deceased’s assets until every last unpaid/disputed dime is cleared up.

  33. janet May 5, 2017 at 5:23 pm #

    Trumpcare isn’t a health care bill. A bill that destroys health care for millions to shovel cash to the rich isn’t a health care bill.

    • janet May 5, 2017 at 5:27 pm #

      The Republicans voted yesterday to give control of congress to Democrats in 2018. Trump has successfully energized the Democrats. The unemployed Trump voters are still deplorably unemployed without health care insurance.

      • tucsonspur May 5, 2017 at 5:56 pm #

        So it would seem. The Senate must save the day, or else Trump will go down like Charles Latrille de Lorencez at Puebla, on this fifth day of May, 1862.

        Early, foolish, celebratory posturing by the Repubs. Did the Deplorables elect the Detestable?

        I’m hanging on by a thread.

      • chipshot May 5, 2017 at 10:08 pm #

        Only if the Dems provide/support true progressive candidates.
        Unfortunately there is no reason to believe they will.

        Time for 3rd parties.

    • chipshot May 5, 2017 at 10:04 pm #

      Never called it a health care bill.

  34. tucsonspur May 5, 2017 at 5:28 pm #

    The act must be balanced, the balls deftly juggled. We need a lot of money for intelligence services and the military or we just might be beyond health care. In other words, dead.

    Who knows what version the Senate will come up with. Will the final bill just suck, or really, really suck?

    Help, I’m trapped in the Medical Matrix racket, and I can’t get out!

    Ask not for whom the Bill tolls, it tolls for us all, loudly ringing out that it’s wealth above health, and greed above need.

  35. FincaInTheMountains May 5, 2017 at 6:04 pm #

    But there are pleasant exceptions.

    For example my mother made quite a complex surgery on the eye due to glaucoma. She was going nuts before this surgery, did not let me out of her site, crying, cursing, as a result the whole procedure from arrival at the hospital to discharge took about five hours, and the operation itself took an hour. But during this time I have seen enough.

    It’s really a conveyor, all calculated by the minute, from the paperwork and trips to the elevators to the surgery. That is, probably even in seconds. Some people walking in a calm measured steps, bringing everything you need, lock-unlock things, see and monitor patient to the toilet after anesthesia, watch that the patient wouldn’t fall, the nurse comes in 10 seconds, brings hospital linen, 10 seconds after the dressing ends the other person brings a gurney and carries to operating room, during the operation relatives are informed every half hour, that all goes well, after the operation patient is brought into the waiting room and nurse comes in 10 seconds and covers with heated blankets, next put a dripper, and 10 seconds after the dripper runs out nurse pulls out the needle, and a hefty black guy brings a cup of coffee.

    Etc, etc. Conveyor.

    But for some reason you don’ feel bad on this conveyor, but on the contrary I feel the security and human warmth coming from this conveyor, which works without a glitch.

    And it’s not in the system, but in the human factor – the main doctor of this clinic, who invented this machine.

    And you know what? This machine is America, in the good sense of the word.

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    • FincaInTheMountains May 5, 2017 at 6:11 pm #

      I am proud to announce that my daughter got a Residency place in Virginia hospital after 4 years of medical school.

      • elysianfield May 5, 2017 at 7:38 pm #

        Congratulations…. What a Country!

      • thwack May 5, 2017 at 10:07 pm #


        but what color is she?

        Not that it matters or anything…

    • tucsonspur May 5, 2017 at 6:49 pm #

      Okay, it’s a conveyor with warmth and security, but what was the cost?

  36. tucsonspur May 5, 2017 at 6:04 pm #

    Here’s CK on single payer:


  37. elysianfield May 5, 2017 at 7:37 pm #

    Excellent News, Ladies and Germs;

    It has just been reported, this PM on the BBC, That A University in Florida has awarded Trayvon Martin an honorary BS degree in “Aeronautics”. The Aeronautics degree was awarded because the deceased teen wanted to be a pilot. It is a real pity that he did not, rather, want to be a rocket surgeon…we certainly could use more of those….


    • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 7:48 pm #

      That’s right up there with Tookie having an Austrian Park named after him (I mean wtf?) and Clock boy getting a scholarship to MIT. We’re done. Cucked to the core.

      We have no instinct for survival whatsoever. And thinking can’t replace it because only the few are able to think hard enough to attain clarity.

      • malthuss May 5, 2017 at 9:37 pm #

        Medicine, this is from Pat;

        Pat Boyle said..she had a theory that black people had more mental illness. I wrote that that wasn’t a theory – it was an established fact. I said I could give references.

        I have some books of that subject but I’m too lazy to look them up. But you could try:


        It took me less than a minute to find this big literature review on schizophrenia and race.
        The reason I could find it so fast is because it is not controversial. Blacks are diagnosed with schizophrenia at around double to quadruple !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        the rate of whites and almost everyone in psychiatry knows it.

        Schizophrenia is one of the well recognized racial characteristics of blacks like failure in school or violent crime.
        This fact seems to have been suppressed. I have never seen an article in the mainstream media about the reality of black mental illness.

        I was at my third college before I learned that blacks have lower IQs than whites. It wasn’t part of the regular curricula but I sat in on sociology class as a guest and the professor mentioned the lower black IQ as he tried to explain it away. It was like the tort trial for which I was a juror. The plaintiff’s lawyer by mistake let out some damning facts about his client (he was an black out alcoholic). I call this sort of thing – “the truth slipped out”.

        So I only learned that blacks had lower IQs because inadvertently the truth had slipped out. I wasn’t supposed to know.

        The same seems to also be the case with schizophrenia among blacks.

        • thwack May 5, 2017 at 10:05 pm #

          white children have lower IQs too; should they be hung from trees?

          Your old ass, senile, drooling, jello eatin, parents have a low IQ too; should they be abused and mistreated?

          Ive said it before and I’ll say it again:

          wake me up when you get to the part that justifies abusing and mistreating people.


        • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 11:22 pm #

          Actually, that makes total sense to me but the Movement has never expressed it that way. We just see them as so primitive that the higher has no chance against the lower. Thus their ego structure is just a thin façade compared to their id. It’s not madness just a return to what they really are.

          I worked in mental health. Many of the Schizophrenics just seemed like low flyers who got caught up in drugs and alcohol. Got institutionalized and developed even more bad habits – like learned helplessness. After all, really dumb people are confused to begin with and then add an insane society, bad friends, bad music, drugs, etc – of course they go “crazy”.

          The rate of diagnosis is much lower in Britain. It shouldn’t be if the whole thing was real.

      • malthuss May 5, 2017 at 9:38 pm #

        Mumia has a street in France named after Mumia.

  38. KesaAnna May 5, 2017 at 8:48 pm #

    ” those who can pay are made to , and those that cannot take advantage of them ”

    Maybe those that cannot used to be a working class that could actually pay the grocery bill, rent , AND medical bills ?

    — Or even used to be a middle class ?

    I suspect it is a bit of a re-run of the rise of the Roman Empire ;

    Bitch, bitch, bitch about the ever-growing institution of slavery and its hopeless, helpless representatives .

    Forget that the proud Roman citizenry were once primarily ditch-digging goatherd Hastati .

    Praise the legions, praise the Praetorian Guard .

  39. Pucker May 5, 2017 at 10:01 pm #

    The French election will be held on the anniversary of the French defeat at Dien Bien Phu.

  40. DA May 5, 2017 at 10:09 pm #

    A note of thanks to our host Jim Kunstler. I somehow got put into commentator purgatory this week (where I know many of you would have preferred I’d stayed!), where I wasn’t actually banned or in moderation or anything like that, but my comments just wouldn’t take. Hey, no big deal, IT shit happens. But the issue did take a several email exchange back and forth to resolve over the course of a few hours apparently requiring Jim’s “web guy’s” intervention, and our host was prompt and courteous in all his replies, quite over and above what I’ve come to expect from a blog this size hosted by a single author who I’m sure has better things to do.

    So anyway, a tip of the hat to Jim Kunstler and his “web guy” for a job well done for which they earned exactly zero extra dollars in return, but a near infinite amount of respect credits from this humble blog commentator who is hereby resolved to be a little more respectful to ALL commentators in return, whether they (Finca and janet, I’m looking RIGHT at you! 😉 ) deserve it or not.

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  41. Pucker May 5, 2017 at 10:12 pm #

    I wonder if there’s a market for “Medical Tourism Cruise Ships”? Basically, a floating hospital ship that picks up patients at a US port and then floats out to international waters to provide discount medical services and sell discount drugs?

    • DA May 5, 2017 at 10:33 pm #

      There you go putting on your venture capitalist hat! Well done! Unfortunately, it would probably still only service those of a certain means, who could probably just fly elsewhere on their own anyway. But who knows? You should explore this, although I’m sure someone has already beaten you to the punch. I have a feeling it would likely be outlawed anyway, absent MANY palms being greased.

    • thwack May 5, 2017 at 10:56 pm #

      They busted a “Mexican” in DC for running a dental practice out of his garage.

      • elysianfield May 5, 2017 at 11:46 pm #

        A Mexican?

        Was he a real Mexican, like Danny Trejo, or a white Mexican, like George Zimmerman? What color was he? How much money would you take to become a Mexican…(or how much would you pay to become one)? How do you know he/she was a Mexican? How can you tell? Not that it means anything….

        Would you let him put his filthy fingers in your mouth? Would you let Salma Hayek put her fingers(or anything else) in your mouth? Hell yes…and damn the expense.

        Just sayin’

    • Pucker May 5, 2017 at 11:51 pm #

      The medical cruise ships could also do organ transplants for rich people using organs helicoptered to the ship’s helicopter landing pad and flow in from Haiti through the Clinton Foundation.

      • malthuss May 6, 2017 at 1:16 am #

        Have you listened to George Webb?

  42. Pucker May 5, 2017 at 10:25 pm #

    The prices of medical services are not fixed and made public in a situation where the desperate healthcare consumer has NO negotiating power?!

    Are you Shitting-Me?!

    • DA May 5, 2017 at 10:53 pm #

      Time for me to weigh in again with my periodic Jeremiad about the evils of relying on a “health insurance system” in the first place. Yes, healthcare insurance defrays and makes your healthcare expenses somewhat more predictable, and thus “affordable” for those of us living on somewhat fixed monthly budgets (and who isn’t these days?), but at a considerable cost, which we’re experiencing more and more as we speak.

      The rich, who can easily afford the insurance, abuse the living shit out of it, driving up the pooled costs to be distributed and amortized to everyone else, while the poor, if they can get insured at all, pile on huge costs for basic health care needs that have long gone neglected. Meanwhile, the proverbial “middle class,” bears the burden for BOTH and quickly realizes that they’re the one’s getting screwed. Add in garden variety corporate capitalist corruption to increase the take for the fat cats and their coterie and – voila! – you’ve got a time bomb waiting to go off.

      Any proposed “solution” to fix this cluster fuck of a mess simply MUST include a ROBUST “cash and carry” health care services sector to serve as a grounding point.

  43. bukowskisghost May 5, 2017 at 11:06 pm #

    With all the ass raping in Jim’s blog today, I’m looking for a good proctologist that’s in my PPO

    • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2017 at 11:31 pm #

      Whites still being attacked and raped in prison. Much of this could be ended by segregating prisoners by race, but let’s face it: the System wants this cruel and unusual punishment. Segregation is discrimination! It’s wrong! It’s cruel! It saves lives! (including Black and Hispanic lives since they hate each other).


      • thwack May 6, 2017 at 12:04 am #

        The last thing the guards want is for the inmates to trust and cooperate with each other. Even when all the inmates are black, they still find ways to divide them up into “races” and keep them focused on each other (instead of the guards)

        For example,

        drugs, homosexuality, and all the other vices are prison currencies the guards use to make the prisoners maintain the prison.

        As a prison guard, the last thing you want is a sober inmate who just sits there all day, staring at you without saying anything, and thinking YOU are the source of all his problems.

        You don’t want that.

        You want the inmates focused on each other; who got what, and how much…

        Some employers use this same strategy with their companies; never letting the same crews work together long enough to know and trust each other.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 6, 2017 at 12:55 am #

          Race exists and it can be used – just like any other force. Blacks simply don’t identify with Whites. The “energy” (for want of a better word) is simply too different. And normal Whites admit that Blacks feel alien, violent, primitive and dangerous and are best avoided. Most Liberals refuse to admit any difference yet avoid them none the less. Crazy Liberals, the “Saints” of the religion, force themselves to affiliate and are often martyred.

        • elysianfield May 6, 2017 at 6:05 pm #

          “As a prison guard, the last thing you want is a sober inmate who just sits there all day, staring at you without saying anything, and thinking YOU are the source of all his problems.”

          Wrong again. What a warder wants is an 8 hour shift without issues, drama, or other extraneous bullshit, so he can go home without overtime-written reports, or stitches…And if this is an excuse for you or any of your immediate family “acting-out” in prison…won’t wash…Yo ass be in the SHU immediately!

          The Inmates already hate the warders…it is a given.

  44. Pucker May 5, 2017 at 11:35 pm #

    Can we find a more elegant word other than “ass raping”?

    What about “Cornhole”?

    • thwack May 5, 2017 at 11:44 pm #


    • elysianfield May 5, 2017 at 11:48 pm #

      The Infamous Crime against Nature.

      • Pucker May 6, 2017 at 12:00 am #

        Doesn’t “sodomy” include both oral and anal sex; whereas “Cornhole” exclusively refers to anal sex, albeit “Cornhole” could refer either to consensual or non-consensual anal sex, right?

        • Pucker May 6, 2017 at 12:03 am #

          Another deficiency with the word “Cornhole” is that it excludes the possibility of penetration with a foreign object, or, more particularly, a very large and abrasive insurance company.

        • thwack May 6, 2017 at 12:10 am #

          Sodomy can be defined as ANY sterile intercourse.

          • Pucker May 6, 2017 at 12:13 am #

            What is “Buggery”?

          • elysianfield May 6, 2017 at 10:13 am #

            “What is “Buggery”?”

            One of the three traditions of the British Navy outlined by Winston Churchill;

            “…Rum, the lash, and buggery….”

          • capt spaulding May 7, 2017 at 8:43 am #

            Buggery is the act of hiding a microphone up someone’s ass and listening in on their conversations.

        • DA May 6, 2017 at 12:26 am #

          And thus the advantage of simple descriptive terms.

          Q: Did the perpetrator “cornhole” you, ma’am?

          A: I’m not sure I understand the question, but yes, he did in fact penetrate my asshole with his thunderous 12″ “meatstick” over and over again – completely against my will mind you! – until I was FORCED to come against my will over and over again.

          Q: And exactly HOW did that make you feel?

          A: I guess the best explanation is, shaken, but not yet completely stirred, I guess.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 6, 2017 at 12:46 am #

            America, Western Civilization, the White Race, Christianity – you dislike the first, so so about the second, disinterested in the third and have an unspeakable hatred about the last. Amirite?

          • DA May 7, 2017 at 9:02 pm #

            I think America is capable of MUCH better, as is the white race, and Christianity (an abomination of mere “hero worship”) is a symptom of their/our downfall.

  45. Pucker May 6, 2017 at 12:01 am #

    I wonder if they have tours to Dien Bien Phu in which the tourists parachute into Dien Bien Phu? You know, re-live the experience….

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    • pequiste May 6, 2017 at 10:03 pm #

      I dunno about a Dien Bien Phu “ride” or “tour”…….no time for any of that French-Indochina colonial stuff….

      but I’d bet there are legions of red-blooded, patriotic ‘Muricans who would give their eye teeth or perhaps delay kidney dialysis for a couple of months to go on the Nuu Dizney “Apocalypse Wow” ride at Dizney theme parks around the world.


      “Charlie can’t surf.” Lt. Col. Bill Kilgore

  46. SvrzoH May 6, 2017 at 12:17 am #

    Not quite medical problem (and of topic), but this is the way to go through healing process:


    Fashion not covered by insurance.

    • DA May 6, 2017 at 12:30 am #

      Nice link! How the link “grieve.”

      • DA May 6, 2017 at 12:31 am #

        How the RICH “grieve.”

  47. malthuss May 6, 2017 at 12:59 am #

    Starvation in South America,


    Venezuela has the world’s highest inflation—estimated by the International Monetary Fund to reach 720% this year—making it nearly impossible for families to make ends meet. Since 2013, the economy has shrunk 27%, according to local investment bank Torino Capital; imports of food have plunged 70%.

    Hordes of people, many with children in tow, rummage through garbage, an uncommon sight a year ago.
    People in the countryside pick farms clean at night, stealing everything from fruits hanging on trees to pumpkins on the ground, adding to the misery of farmers hurt by shortages of seed and fertilizer. Looters target food stores. Families padlock their refrigerators.

    —My question, why are the farms there not feeding people in cities there?

  48. thwack May 6, 2017 at 6:52 am #

    Im not saying he is or he isn’t; but Ive often got the feeling that Trump has some feminine features, and may be trying to hide them with his alpha male routine.


    And Melania does have a tranny look too.

    Im not hating. I like them both as people. But I think tricking people is a form of power and control.

  49. FincaInTheMountains May 6, 2017 at 7:41 am #

    You wanted the no-fly zones in Syria? You got it!

    Russia: Syria deal bans US-led coalition aircraft

    MOSCOW – Russia’s representative at the Syria talks says the “de-escalation zones” will be closed to military aircraft from the U.S.-led coalition.

    Alexander Lavrentyev’s comments Friday come a day after talks in Kazakhstan where Russia, Iran and Turkey agreed to establish the zones in Syria. Under the Russian plan, President Bashar Assad’s air force would halt flights over the designated areas across the war-torn country.

    Lavrentyev, whose remarks were carried by Russian news agencies, said U.S.-led coalition aircraft would be able to operate against the Islamic State group in specific areas, but the “de-escalation zones” were now closed to their flights.


  50. FincaInTheMountains May 6, 2017 at 7:56 am #

    Content look on Putin face, displeased look of Merkel and religious reasons for the blockage in courts of Trump’s executive orders

    1) Religious grounds for blocking Trump’s EO in courts that regulate emigration to the United States from the Middle East countries

    Trump’s EO regulating emigration to the United States from the Middle Eastern countries was blocked in the courts on the grounds that they were giving advantages to Christians. In fact, they do not give any advantages to Christians, but in the first place they grant the right to enter the United States to those groups that are being persecuted.

    2) Satisfied look on Putin’s face, when he spoke about market mechanisms for regulating the exchange rate of the ruble

    Regulation of the ruble rate by market mechanisms in conditions of ruble’s growth in value means Russia is printing rubles not backed by the purchase of American dollars.

    3) Merkel’s unhappy appearance during a press conference with Putin
    was caused by the date of her arrival – May 2, the day of the memory of the Auto-da-fé in the House of Trade Unions in Odessa, arranged by her protégées. She herself could not have come on such day, so Putin forced her to come exactly on this day. After that we could use scientific method to figure out the actual results of the negotiations.

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  51. volodya May 6, 2017 at 10:52 am #

    DA, Re cash and carry

    I agree with your assessment, when you tally it all up, including the cost of corruption and abuse, the underlying problem is that the US is burdened with a medical system that far exceeds ability or willingness to pay.

    It comes down to division of the national income. Health care businesses, including insurance, leverage their power to the max to extract every buck they can from their victims. Their justification is the “free markets” argument ie anything goes in service of the bottom line. They say that, if you don’t like it, move overseas and get second class service. For example, there’s the UK where the NHS is perpetually on the brink of calamity.

    But you might argue that households piss money away on frivolities anyway. I read that on average in the US, a subscriber pays a couple thousand bucks a year for for bundled internet and TV and phone. How much of this is necessary? What’s more important, snapchat and facebook or medical care?

    Having said that, there are legitimately competing priorities. So among these, what proportion of the economic pie should doctors and hospitals and drug companies get? I’ve read accounts about other western countries that pay a far smaller proportion of the national income and come out with better results. A Captain Spaulding sez, average life expectancy in Canada exceeds that of the US.

    So your “cash and carry” solution by necessity would have to reflect the client’s immediate ability to cough up ie how much money he has in his pocket. No money, no service. If that’s the system, there’s a wide swathe of the US that would get nothing but the most basic medical care, ie a Second World level of service if not Third World. In the end though, I think that the medical system will be forced to live with economic realities. Nobody can defy financial gravity forever. Not all doctors can go work in Silicon Valley or Manhattan.

    The archdruid had a post a while back where he talked about “disintermediation”. In this case, the insurance company is the intermediary. His argument is that the future will see a spate of disintermediation as in a depleted economy it’s just too expensive to support parasitic middlemen in every transaction. Bye bye health insurance, hello cash on the barrelhead.

    • FincaInTheMountains May 6, 2017 at 11:05 am #

      I agree with your assessment, when you tally it all up, including the cost of corruption and abuse, the underlying problem is that the US is burdened with a medical system that far exceeds ability or willingness to pay.

      And how much exactly is the cost of corruption and abuse? Judging by F-35 program and inability of US to pay for improving its own infrastructure while US is an issuer of the world currency, puts this cost in excess of 500% – that is out of every 6 dollars spent 5 gets stolen.

      That changes the perspective on US Medical problem, placing it from realm of Economics into realm of Law Enforcement.

      But to properly exercise the Law Enforcement, the Battle for Washington – the main battle of the World War III – must be won by Trump!

  52. volodya May 6, 2017 at 11:20 am #

    France holds its election tomorrow. So here’s a stirring rendition of la Marseillaise. Aux armes citoyens, formez vos bataillons There’s no anthem like this one


    Remember Verdun. Vive la France.

  53. FincaInTheMountains May 6, 2017 at 11:31 am #

    Here is a much better version:


  54. pequiste May 6, 2017 at 4:27 pm #

    DA & Volodya, Re: Cash and carry.

    At the rate that the NWO is happily removing cash as a viable form of payment, I can see somewhere soon, not too far over the horizon (unless it is actually in the latest version of the Republican’s AHCA,) that we shall be visiting with a health-care practitioner who will soon be able to do his or her own billing irrespective of any insurance coverage. Now that’s convenience:


    I’m feeling unscannable myself.

  55. pequiste May 6, 2017 at 4:52 pm #

    As far as this Sunday’s (s)election in France; the Evil-Fuckers-In-Charge will never let Marine Le Pen become Madame La President. JAMAIS!. ( Plus don’t forget about boiling frog syndrome the French are tres confortable, that is except during Yzlamik over-exuberance activities and celebrations.)

    But because I love France and remember all of her great gifts to the world I still have a spark of hope:


    Now where can we find a Victor Lazlo or at least Ingrid Bergman?

    But Bogart will always have the right connections plus incroyable savoir faire.

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    • tucsonspur May 6, 2017 at 6:10 pm #

      The fiery, young mademoiselle is wonderful, singing so passionately!

  56. onehunglo May 6, 2017 at 5:08 pm #

    if you health care so wreck, why you one jane fonda age 79 prance around like age 19??

    let not you heart be troubled.

    may God be with you.


    • tucsonspur May 6, 2017 at 5:54 pm #

      prease forgive, but rook out berow!

  57. tucsonspur May 6, 2017 at 5:52 pm #

    There was some discussion above about legality, the law, and ethics which I personally found interesting but somewhat muddled. Going in the direction of what the definition of “is” is.

    I think that everyone agrees that the law should be “ethical”. Okay, here’s the conundrum, however; what about gun laws, abortion, and health care law, the last example being mentioned above? Here the ethics seem to become malleable and tensile.

    Let’s go back to 2010 and look at the Citizens United decision as not only a highly questionable ethical decision, but one that eroded the very foundations of our democracy. I believe we all know why, and here are some facts: As of 2014, on Senate elections alone, spending more than doubled, to $486 million.

    Spending by Super PACs has already topped $1billion as of 2015, and worse yet, $600 million plus of that amount came from only 195 donors. The small donor is insignificant and inconsequential. On top of all this, in the 2014 McCutcheon court ruling, limits on individual donors were also overturned.

    What follows is a quote that further illustrates the convoluted intertwining of the law and ethics:

    “In Citizens United and the subsequent rulings, conservative and liberal justices alike acknowledged that Congress can restrict political contributions, even if they’re considered free speech, to uphold the overarching national interest of a politics free of corruption. But that requires defining ‘corruption.’ In these rulings the Supreme Court’s conservative majority defined it narrowly as only the ‘quid pro quo’ of payment for a specific action by an elected official – basically, bribery. Contributions to party committees or PACs? They don’t count, so they can’t be limited.”

    How would you define “is” ? How would you define “corruption”?
    So it all seems to boil down to individual interpretation.

    Yes, in this case I agree with Justice RBG. “The notion that we have all the democracy that money can buy strays so far from what our democracy is supposed to be”.

    In my view, it is now “unethical law”. What’s your interpretation?

    • ozone May 7, 2017 at 9:21 am #

      As an aside/addendum to your post here’s a detailed listing of the legalized corruption/bribery of an entrenched and well-accepted consigliere class in nice suits:


      (“Unethical law” — Interesting conundrum that has existed since “the law” began.)

      • tucsonspur May 8, 2017 at 4:19 am #

        Right on. Thanks for the link.

  58. fodase May 6, 2017 at 6:22 pm #

    back in massachusetts about 12 years ago i went to the ER uninsured. spent 3.5 hours on a bed waiting to be seen, then 20 mins in a CAT scan (I believe) machine getting my innards scanned for lots of horrible burning sensations.

    the bill was $13,500. needless to say, it gave me a hearty laff & was immediately torn up and chucked into the plastic Homo Depot garbage can.

    regarding suicide in place of rotting away in some medical setting at end of life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXgkNxqYYQQ

    • tucsonspur May 6, 2017 at 7:53 pm #

      Certainly something to consider. Takes courage to take control and not let the vultures have you.

  59. Pucker May 6, 2017 at 7:52 pm #

    Today is the anniversary of the French defeat at Dien Bien Phu.

    After nearly 50 days of battle at Dien Bien Phu, the French garrison (representing less than 4% of CEFEO and ANV forces) were still holding out, and tying down about 60% of the the People’s Army regular force and 20% of their regular forces.

    “Vive La France!”

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  60. Pucker May 6, 2017 at 8:00 pm #

    The Coup de Grace for the French garrison at Dien Bien Phu was the arrival of the Monsoon on 25 April 1954 which cut off the French garrison from resupply by air drop.

  61. Pucker May 6, 2017 at 8:05 pm #

    General Giap was holding out for the arrival of the Monsoon rains to finish off the French garrison.

  62. Pucker May 6, 2017 at 8:41 pm #

    How do you prevent pillaging and drunkenness by your staff and students?

    After JHK publishes his weekly blog entries, there is an immediate orgy of drunken pillaging of the Comments Section by people making drunken pillaging comments. Like bears raiding a trash can after the trash has been dropped in.

    • thwack May 6, 2017 at 8:56 pm #

      Maybe thats because there is no real dialogue because dudes like you are too busy trying to maintain some kind of dominance hierarchy at all cost?

      Its the main downfall of all comments sections.

      • Pucker May 6, 2017 at 9:12 pm #

        “Dominance at all costs”—S & M?

        • pequiste May 6, 2017 at 10:16 pm #

          Nope; B & D.

          As in: Let’s fit Nancy Pelosi, House minority leader, for a straight-jacket and then have her watch re-runs of Donald Trump election rally speeches Clockwork Orange style.

          BTW did you know there is no more “and” (or ampersand) used between the the famous terms denoting the ” less vanilla” forms of erotic / sex play?

  63. 100th Avatar May 6, 2017 at 10:18 pm #

    I voted for Obama twice.

    And Cuomo.

    I really hate what has become of things.

    I’m going to air it on my blog…


  64. onehunglo May 6, 2017 at 11:19 pm #

    how many time CFN miscreant keep complain over reality??

    globalist eugenic program design to eliminate unnecessary human who lack skill in advance agenda.

    as you one galt state, globalist enjoy perfect alignment super-communism with super-capitalism with super-corruption with enforcement by unelected members deep state.

    that ok.

    let not you heart be troubled.

    may God be with you.


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  65. Pucker May 6, 2017 at 11:38 pm #

    The problem is basically that the American people don’t have any power through their alleged “democratic” process, right? So another more effective way must be brought to bear to strike fear into the hearts of the corrupt politicians, right?

    Perhaps the Millennials can threaten to default on their student loans?

  66. Buck Stud May 6, 2017 at 11:40 pm #

    Well, well,well…she’s going home with “rap star” and he’s gone home with “Daddy Bear”…”mixing it up” indeed:


    Janos? thwack?…

    • thwack May 7, 2017 at 7:15 am #

      Damn, the rap game is out of control.

      Whatever happened to having a Bentley?

    • malthuss May 7, 2017 at 12:30 pm #

      negroe worship–affletes.

  67. Buck Stud May 6, 2017 at 11:43 pm #

    wrong link:


    • malthuss May 7, 2017 at 12:29 pm #

      typical. no surprise. turn the White guy into a faggot and his wife
      lap dances w a nigger.

      • thwack May 7, 2017 at 1:17 pm #

        Al right, lets not go crazy here…

        He’s a rich ni66er, and he has a helicopter.

        You’re a broke ass cracker, with a 4 inch vertical.

        Don’t get it twisted.

  68. Pucker May 6, 2017 at 11:47 pm #

    I wonder to what extent Dien Bien Phu was another Dulles Brothers fuck up?

  69. AHtheHumanity May 7, 2017 at 12:10 am #

    After skimming the required reading for this blog post…

    he leaves out a lot.

    Healthcare is about pooping out babies…that’s all it was for centuries. It doesn’t matter whose baby, what matters is will the baby require additional healthcare because it’s sick or premature. That’s where the costs really skyrocket. Hospitals should include controversial family planning, instead of relegating those crucial services to small clinics on the outskirts of towns where tons of radical Christians can form a prayer circle around them and assassinate the staff. Gynecological procedures should include abortions approved by physicians. If a physician does or does not approve an abortion for whatever reason (there are many), the woman should be told why the decision was made and how the hospital plans to help her to keep the baby until it is born or how the developing cells are to be removed and what is to be done with them; she and her partner must sign for the entire procedure including the disposal method. Every patient has to know what is going to happen to them, what will be removed and what will happen to what has been removed because it’s their personal property and should be respected as such as outlined in current property law. Community property law does apply to a developing human; half of the creature belongs to the father. Abortions should never be administered for the simple fact they are inconvenient or embarrassing. All medical treatments are elective and it is not against the law to NOT seek medical treatments or examinations.

    The medical community already knows how many people will be showing up for the leading causes of disease in this country. Accidents are the 4th cause of all visits to the ER followed by stroke, diabetes and influenza. We can safely assume these accidents include motor vehicles. Therefore, auto insurance is directly tied into most healthcare coverage and should be included in the demands for transparency. Liability insurance must cover 50% of the basic ER expense of any accident; the EMTs, Ambulance, Surgery, ICU and in/out patient rehabilitation. Personal injury lawyers should not be able to sue for what their client’s insurance has already paid out, only what their insurance is not able to pay. If people refuse to be insured while engaged in risky behavior (driving) then they should not be allowed to sue for damages, they assumed the risks. Same thing with other lifestyle choices like smoking, drinking, doing drugs, etc. The state should not have to pay for the medical treatments of people who refuse to pay insurance that will completely cover the results of an unhealthy lifestyle. This means there has to be an entire category of health care insurance specifically for smokers, drinkers, dopers, etc…along the same lines as those with pre-existing medical conditions.

    There must be access in every state to medical schools where research and implementation of new treatments/drugs is available at no additional cost to the patient. Hospitals must all be wired into each other via their own closed circuit intranet that is paid for by the state. No hospitals should be charged for the transport or storage of vital statistics and information, drastically reducing their cost of doing business, making it easier for them to file claims with the state and thus the state to report to the feds.

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    • elysianfield May 7, 2017 at 11:12 am #

      What you say has merit…However, every existential problem this country faces has a simple and direct solution. Every problem will have someone benefitting, someone getting screwed. Every problem will have advocates for change, and advocates for the system to remain as it is. Every solution will cost money or lose money, provide an opportunity for others, or cost someone else a broken rice bowl.

      It does little more than provide stress relief to ponder these issues, as the vast majority of the readers of this blog could present viable solutions…but it is merely mental masturbation. Things will not change for the better because of politics, money, power (lack of it), a voice ( not heard in the halls of power), privilege (not gained), constituencies ( without leverage), etc. etc. ETC.

      Sometimes you have to destroy the village to save it….

      Wish that it were otherwise?

      Embrace the train wreck….

  70. FincaInTheMountains May 7, 2017 at 4:34 am #

    Western European sheeple was subjected to the process of un-natural selection, when the most complacent, devoid of any initiative people, survived, especially after the two world wars of the 20th century.

    May be that fact explains that Western European Elites are resorting to allowing the hordes of passionate, ready to maim, kill and loot, Muslim men in their lands? == me

    Modern Europeans are not warriors. That’s why they attract thousands of strong men from the Middle East and Africa. Anyone who takes in hand the machine gun and goes to war against the Russians – deserves the right to live in Europe. If it survives.

  71. FincaInTheMountains May 7, 2017 at 4:55 am #

    Syria as a caricature of American political showdowns

    Western media (in particular Bloomberg) write about Russia’s new plan for Syria, which is supposedly to be discussed with Trump, and which Russian diplomats are already promoting at the talks. Specifically mentioned is the Ambassador at Large Lavrentiev. The plan is to create “buffer zones” and introduce a peacekeeping contingent with the participation of Russian, Iranian and Turkish troops, as well as the troops of the American “anti-terrorist coalition”, which, if properly implemented, will lead to a stable ceasefire between Assad’s troops and the pro-American opposition.


    If such a plan is actually implemented, this means the freezing of the conflict for an indefinite period and the actual recognition by Washington that Assad remains in power.

    This will be a colossal humiliation for the ambitions of American Party of War, for which the issue of Assad personal destruction or at least his overthrow is a matter of principle and image.

    For Trump, this plan looks quite promising. On the one hand, it can be said that he is “the savior of millions of civilians from the atrocities of the Syrian army” (he may even get a Nobel Peace Prize for this), and on the other hand, the delimitation of territories in Syria and the introduction of “coalition” troops enables joint operations against ISIS (i.e. those militants who are sponsored by Clintonoids).

    By the way, about the clashes between militants, which the Pentagon is sponsoring and the fighters sponsored by the CIA, the American media have written several times. It turns out that a caricature of American political showdowns is taking place in Syria.

    The plan for a “joint peacekeeping operation” in this sense for Trump is generally a gift – an ideal opportunity to protect “our” militants and eliminate “their” militants, with live Fox News coverage and enthusiastic PR in the style “Trump is the winner of ISIS and achieved success where Obama failed “.

    American generals and the military-industrial complex will be happy, although perhaps they would like more, but the presence of Russia works quite well as a stopper for their ambitions. The solution of “political issues” (national reconciliation, elections, etc.) is likely to be postponed indefinitely.

    If this plan really takes hold as a result of direct personal talks between Putin and Trump, we may indeed come closer to completing the acute phase of the Syrian conflict.

  72. wm5135 May 7, 2017 at 7:27 am #

    DA – “A: I guess the best explanation is, shaken, but not yet completely stirred, I guess.” In this the second month of the second quarter of 2017 you are awarded “The Best Punchline of the Year”. As the cable guy might opine, that’s funny right there!
    Thank you

    • Q. Shtik May 7, 2017 at 12:49 pm #

      “The Best Punchline of the Year”



      The line was plucked from the current issue of Time magazine.

    • DA May 7, 2017 at 8:57 pm #

      Thanks, I guess. I probably fucked up in reverse again. Pretty much the story of my life so far. 😉

  73. FincaInTheMountains May 7, 2017 at 8:02 am #

    Russian Americans celebrate WWII Veterans Remembrance Day in Washington – the Immortal Regiment


  74. FincaInTheMountains May 7, 2017 at 10:43 am #

    Evidently the biggest American problem is a lack of traditional English humor that allows the British to call themselves a Constitutional Monarchy, despite the absence of a Constitution.

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  75. elysianfield May 7, 2017 at 11:34 am #

    James Baldwin wrote:

    [T]here is, I should think, no Negro living in America who . . . has not wanted to smash any white face he may encounter in a day, to violate, out of motives of the cruelest vengeance, their women, to break the bodies of all white people. . . .

    Eldridge Cleaver of the Black Panthers wrote of his career as a rapist:

    Rape [of white women] was an insurrectional act. It delighted me that I was defying and trampling upon the white man’s law, upon his system of values, and that I was defiling his women . . . I felt that I was getting revenge.

    Amiri Baraka, originally known as LeRoi Jones and who was named New Jersey Poet Laureate in 2002, wrote in his poem “Black Dada Nihilimus:”

    Come up, black dada nihilismus.

    Rape the white girls.

    Rape their fathers.

    Cut the mothers’ throats.

    Why this enmity? I had at least two attempts on my life committed by black men, yet I do not want to rape or kill all blacks. Do you think race in America has a solution? Are you part of that potential solution?

    • malthuss May 7, 2017 at 12:26 pm #

      what White would want sex/rape on Blacks?

      • thwack May 7, 2017 at 3:35 pm #

        the whites that like pre teens and little boys?

        • thwack May 7, 2017 at 3:39 pm #

          Joe Paterno, Dennis Hastert…

    • thwack May 7, 2017 at 1:22 pm #

      Why this enmity?


      Are you the guy who doesn’t know if he is a white person?

      Why should I discuss race with a person who does not know if he is a white person?

      • Janos Skorenzy May 7, 2017 at 3:28 pm #

        Don’t forget Miles Davis who said, If I had five minutes left to live I’d spend them strangling a White person.

        Can we all just admit there’s something different about Blacks? Something non or at least pre-human?

        • thwack May 7, 2017 at 10:38 pm #

          Come on Janos,

          you know you got a list of white people a mile long that you want to strangle?

    • nsa May 7, 2017 at 3:02 pm #

      ely, mal, thw
      Amerika is a lawless society addicted to freeloading, violence, drugs, perversion, and porn. Whether urban or rural, when leaving your front door, always tuck your friendly little Smith M60 38 spl stainless snubbie in your pocket. If you are forced to use it, never stick around…..is better to just take a beatdown or get stuck than dragged through the nightmarish court system. Why the M60 revolver? Doesn’t spray evidence everywhere like a semi-auto and is absolutely reliable. And it is small….better a handy little snubbie in the pocket than a 45 auto at home on the nightstand. The little M60 is a classic of sorts…..mild mannered Bernie Goetz used one to cause severe leaking in four ghetto rats. He made the mistake of sticking around. He compounded the mistake by talking to the cops. He now runs a squirrel rescue society in NYC……..squirrels at least work for a living and don’t whine, unlike most humans.

      • thwack May 7, 2017 at 3:51 pm #

        why don’t you just carry a stack of books?

        Books are like kryptonite to blacks

        • elysianfield May 7, 2017 at 7:16 pm #

          Because books satisfy on one level, a 38 cal Chief’s Special on another…always carry a 950B Beretta, myself.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 7, 2017 at 3:26 pm #

      One of the main purposes of the Police is to protect Blacks from getting what they deserve at our hands.

      • thwack May 7, 2017 at 4:01 pm #

        Why don’t you just marry one?

        Then you can abuse the children all you want, just like black people do?

        Do I have to teach you how to do everything?

        • elysianfield May 7, 2017 at 7:23 pm #

          You need to teach Janos that he does not need to marry a black woman to have children…a vast majority of Ghetto women give lie to your premise…rent to own….


  76. malthuss May 7, 2017 at 12:23 pm #

    The Islamic State magazine that has published tutorials on vehicle, knife and arson attacks as a tool of lone jihad is now encouraging terrorists to acquire guns at shows and shops and take hostages not for ransom but “to create as much carnage and terror as one possibly can.”

    The latest issue of Rumiyah magazine, distributed online in 10 languages including English, offers another installment of the “Just Terror Tactics” series, praising lone jihadists including U.S. terrorists who have “set heroic examples with their operations.”

    The objective of taking hostages, would-be jihadists are told, is “not to hold large numbers of the kuffar hostage in order to negotiate one’s demands,” but to sow terror with “the language of force, the language of killing, stabbing and slitting throats, chopping off heads, flattening them under trucks, and burning them alive, until they give the jizyah [tax] while they are in a state of humiliation.”

    • FincaInTheMountains May 7, 2017 at 12:54 pm #

      Defunding of a few departments in CIA and Pentagon should take care of an ISIS problem faster than you could say Tomahawk.

  77. FincaInTheMountains May 7, 2017 at 1:58 pm #

    The fact that the Clinton’s super bowl of the 90s ended with the bombing of Serbia and the tragedy of the Russian “Kursk” nuclear submarine, should be remembered by everyone.

    But the fact that in the interval between these events Yeltsin from Beijing reminded Clinton about the existence of Russia’s nuclear triad, probably not everyone knows. And the Canadian French filmmakers claim that the Kursk nuclear submarine was sunk by the American submarines Memphis and Toledo because of Russia’s threat to sell China the Shkval missiles, which was the logical continuation of Yeltsin’s speech in Beijing.

    And this is not surprising, since both extreme events increased the likelihood of road maps of Russia’s disintegration and accordingly immediately influenced the cost of the companies that supposedly should have become post-Soviet real estate owners. Moreover, prohibitively low oil prices not only fueled this growth but also allowed to compensate inflationary pressures of the printing press – the 20 trillion of unfunded dollars printed by the Clintons.

    Dow Jones broke the trend line of the final stage of the Clinton super bowl around the time when Vladimir Putin became Prime Minister and introduced his revolutionary proposal to drown Chechen terrorists in toilets, and I believe such technical events never end without consequences.

    This really raised the issue of irreversible lowering of the probability of road maps for Russia’s disintegration, but was compensated by the bombings of Serbia and Kursk. That’s how country printing the world money can convert politics into a nice profit.

    A system with positive feedback. If add some feelings of proportion and measure – there would be a winning combination.

    And I must say that in 2000 the situation changed dramatically when the US became headed by a man with a sense of measure who took very serious steps to normalize the situation in the financial sector of the US economy.

    George W. Bush Jr. – the greatest political figure of our time, a talented military leader and a man with strategic thinking for 8 years of his presidency partially burned these 20 trillion in a furnace of controlled inflation, associated mainly with rising oil prices, lowered pressure in overheated NASDAQ and Dow Jones, bankrupted the Worldcom, and laid the foundations for cooperation between Russia and the United States in solving world problems, by just seeing a soul in the eyes of Vladimir Putin.

    He managed to reduce the price of American stocks to the level they would have had if not for the Clinton super bowl, while not allowing the US economy (and the world economy) to fall into the crisis of a-la 2008, and even an attack on Iraq seems to me justified.

    It’s not good to say bad things about the deceased, but Saddam Hussein was not an ally of Russia, and deliberately betrayed it on American nod with his invasion of Kuwait, which served as a pretext for the introduction of US troops into Saudi Arabia and the most monstrous manipulation of oil prices that deprived Russia from any sources of financing of privatization in the 90s.

    Nevertheless, 20 trillion dollars have not gone anywhere, although their strength has decreased by a certain inflationary percent. They left the stock market to go to real estate with inflated prices in full accordance with the cycles of business activity known since the time of Carthage.

    Except for the real estate, there was nowhere for them to go: the further increase in the price of oil not only strengthened Russia, but could also lead to a dangerous slowdown in business activity, while gold was then, and still is, just another kind of raw material, similar to oil.

    All of these accusations for an unsubstantiated issue of subprime mortgages are just a smokescreen, since this was the only possible financial policy that allowed the consequences of the dotcom crisis and the crisis of the ceiling of the further rise in oil prices to spread over time.

    The only way to further reduce the inflationary pressure of notorious 20 trillion was the depreciation of the dollar against other world currencies, primarily the euro. And the government of George Bush began a policy of planned and controlled decline in the dollar against the Euro and the Japanese Yen. And this from the point of view of the Europeans, who always disliked Bush and adored Hillary, violated the principles of Euro-solidarity, as it made European goods uncompetitive.

    It got to the point that on the eve of the crisis, New York was filled with tourists from Europe for whom it was cheaper to buy a plane ticket and buy a pair of good laptops in the US than to buy the same laptops in Germany. It is clear that such a disgrace could not last long and that the United Europe will take any measures that would reduce the euro against the dollar, and therefore in relation to the yen.

    • FincaInTheMountains May 7, 2017 at 4:13 pm #

      20 trillion dollars – an estimated amount of money printed by Clintons in the 90s in anticipation of dollar-denominated trade in the largest piece of real estate in the world – the former Soviet Union property (and other Soviet Bloc countries) and laundered among their dearest friends through 99% fraudulent dotcom companies.

  78. FincaInTheMountains May 7, 2017 at 3:43 pm #

    Finca gets it right: Macron wins, France remains a British Trojan horse in the Fourth Reich.

    So attempt at the revival of Nazism in Europe will more than likely happen this year. For Merkel it is almost the only opportunity for re-election. And before that there will be an attempt to take France under the leadership of Marine Le Pen.

    In Russia there are a lot of imbeciles who sincerely believe that the possible victory of Le Pen in the spring elections in France will be success of Russian foreign policy. She has even been partially financed from Russia. In fact, Le Pen’s victory is a victory of the Black Project – the Reich – which is the worst enemy of Russia. Thank God, the probability of such event is relatively low.

    Britain is concern that its influence in Europe is in serious danger and that could turn to a huge problem for the Island Kingdom. Therefore England just has to be actively involved in European continental politics. Especially in France, where London is actively promoting Macron, who has all chances to win.


    Emmanuel Macron wins French presidential election over rival Marine Le Pen


  79. janet May 7, 2017 at 3:43 pm #

    Immigrants are a net positive. Germany and the Scandnavian countries know it. Holland knows it and voted down the fascist. France knows it and voted down the fascist. Racist xenophobes in France were defeated by a young lover. Let that be a message to all racist xenophobes on CFN.

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    • FincaInTheMountains May 7, 2017 at 3:48 pm #

      Immigrants are a net positive

      I tend to agree, especially when 5 to 1 they are men of military age and with appropriate military training to maim, loot and kill.

      Could be a nice addition to Euro-Pederast troops in their Drang nach Osten

      • pequiste May 7, 2017 at 4:09 pm #

        It won’t get much further East than the current geo-political configuration even with the addition of the Caliphate shock troops.

        What the Yzlamik jihadis and Africans will eventually cause, however, is Gotterdammerung teil zwei fur Europa.

        • FincaInTheMountains May 7, 2017 at 4:18 pm #

          European Nazi never stop to dream…And they always fuck up in the end…

  80. janet May 7, 2017 at 3:56 pm #

    “The objective of taking hostages … is to sow terror.”

    While Trump plays golf four American citizens are now being held hostage in North Korea. Combined with the Korean nuclear ICBMS targeting America, Kim is tightening the screws on Trump.

    • FincaInTheMountains May 7, 2017 at 3:58 pm #

      …Korean nuclear ICBMS targeting America


    • DA May 7, 2017 at 8:18 pm #

      Although one wonders what Americans were doing in North Korea in the first place, given the continued “state of war” between the two countries. I seriously doubt Kim is doing anything the globalist masters aren’t telling him to do, but that’s just me. And Trump is just doing what ALL US Presidents and people of serious means do. Play golf and say “what the fuck do I care, anyway?”

      And the purpose of taking hostages is the same as it’s always been. To provide fodder for the globalist US western media to continue to scare the shit out of its totally captive populace to ensure their continued enslavement.

  81. pequiste May 7, 2017 at 4:23 pm #

    How happy the Evil-Fuckers-In-Charge are aujourd’hui. France will have their petite marionette installed tout de suite for continuity of the NWO plan for the subjugation totale de France.

    Peut-etre La Cinquieme Republique can have an old motto made new:

    “Famille – Travaille – Patrie” and then add “Stupidite” to be au courante.

    • pequiste May 7, 2017 at 5:08 pm #

      Sorry – had to go get the 1942 1 Franc, Etat Francais coin out after looking at my spelling.

      Please read “Travail” instead of “Travaille.”

    • onehunglo May 7, 2017 at 7:18 pm #

      pequiste, you wisdom extend well beyond you years.

      globalist agenda in final phase of execution.

      super-communism combine with super-capitalism combine with super-corruption combine with enforcement from unelected deep state members.

      unless you have talent globalist find useful, you readily expendable and will be given merciful end.

      that ok.

      let not you heart be troubled.

      may God be with you.


  82. BackRowHeckler May 7, 2017 at 8:12 pm #

    interesting cultural brouhaha at Trinity College in Hartford last week. Trinity, founded around 1840 to train Episcopalian clergy (they long ago abandoned the church, now worship in the house of PC), not quite Ivy League but still with the $60,000 per year tuition, located in the section of Hartford where artist Frederick Church and landscape architect Law Olmstead, as boys, learned their love of the natural world, really now just a daycare center for trust fund kids age 18-26 … right off campus there was a school sponsored end of semester event, a party. The party got crashed by neighborhood ‘Youts’, which is code word for a Puerto Rican and Black street gang, 15 strong. They took umbrage when asked to leave and began pounding on students, men and women alike. I mean they were wailing on these snowflakes, oh yeah! (as video showed) To their credit a few of the men tried to fight back but they were outnumbered and overwhelmed. And then it ended as quickly as it began, like an unexpected summer storm, the assailants scurrying away like roaches when you shine a bright light on them.

    One of the student interviewed, a young women, started taking about ‘white privilege. Trinity is promising tighter security in the future.


    • DA May 7, 2017 at 8:48 pm #

      Perhaps it’s only natural that young white males finally get driven out of the academy. It’s time they finally start using their hands again and quit using their overused brains for naught.

      • BackRowHeckler May 7, 2017 at 9:24 pm #

        Men are a minority on campus right now, DA.

        If trends continue all of higher ed, top to bottom, will be a ladies club.

        My opinion (for what it worth, which isn’t much) let the ladies take them over. Who needs those goddam places anyway?


        • DA May 7, 2017 at 9:52 pm #

          I completed college after retiring from the military ten years ago and it was pretty much the same thing then as well. As is corporate culture now. The women are the shining stars – some of them quite legitimately and some of them also because feminine skills are what is called for these days.

          My viewpoint has thus been altered in the interim. As smart as I often imagine that I am, many of the women I’ve worked with/for have, quite simply, outshone me in almost every way. Not to say that I don’t have considerable skills “new age” skills – I DO – but just that many of them have them also and they’re so much younger than I am that they have them innately! In short, it’s quite a humbling experience to finally realize that I’ve been genuinely SURPASSED!

          In short, I haven’t given up the ghost yet, but I finally realize that there’s a human future out there that doesn’t include me, and that I’d better get used to it before it swallows me whole. And further, that’s the same future facing ALL of “god’s children” alive these days, and that we’d all better get the fuck over ourselves pretty damn quickly if we’re going to survive the coming conflagration AT ALL gracefully.


          • BackRowHeckler May 7, 2017 at 10:54 pm #

            Oh yea, tis gonna be a f-kkin utopia once the ladies finally take over.

            They’ve taken over in Sweden and Germany so we have an advanced glimpse of what utopia looks like.

            It speaks Arabic, and Worships Allah.


        • Janos Skorenzy May 7, 2017 at 10:38 pm #

          And those women won’t find husbands and their brains will die with them – a personal, genetic, and civilizational tragedy. Da’s is simply a voice of evil, though he may genuinely think he is serving Life – in fact he serves the forces of Anti-Life.

          Women aren’t interested in men below them in status. There will be no mass role reversal – as weird as that would be. Most of these women will live lives of sterility and die without issue.

          • BackRowHeckler May 7, 2017 at 10:59 pm #

            well, they’ll have their cats and boxes of wine coolers. And Murphy Brown re runs.


          • Buck Stud May 8, 2017 at 12:20 am #

            Once women numerically dominate a profession they will never,ever let males have an equal opportunity shot again, much less give males a chance reassert their former positions in a profession.

            Take landscape painting, for example. In America housewives of wealthy males and retiree’s have taken over the plein aire painting scene. They are now the judges of painting contests and they waste now chance to soil the reputations of male painters in the eyes of female gallery owners( again, females living high in the gallery world thanks to the largesse of their husbands (“oh for god’s sake just give that bitch a gallery please so she will quit nagging and whining!).

            After all, “males” are viewed as competition and they need to be quarantined/kept in their place oh yes her her roar.

            The only males that are allowed to penetrate the artistic vagina clique are the ones who can advance their careers.

            Oh and how they love the Friday night art openings and the selfies and preening poses of cocktail-in-a-hand “success” they post on their FB pages. And the really brazen assholes have been known to puff on cigars too.

            Female outdoor painters are now so ubiquitous that everyone is an “artist” and nothing is art.

            And the few males painters allowed to prosper in that world best not make a false move or their goes their workshop income which is vastly more lucrative than actually selling paintings.

  83. DA May 7, 2017 at 8:46 pm #

    Ricky Stenhouse Jr. gets his first NASCAR Cup win at Talledega today, even as the always highly anticipated BIG ONE finally unfolded behind him with just 19 laps remaining.


    Say and think what you will about the glories of American empire, but NOTHING, and I do mean NOTHING, says America in these late days of the empire, like NASCAR, and nothing epitomizes NASCAR like Talledega, the “superest” super speedway of them all!

    Say and think what you like about the vicissitudes of the whole southern white man’s experience, but this is some SERIOUSLY IMPRESSIVE shit!


    • BackRowHeckler May 7, 2017 at 9:27 pm #

      It was a great race! What a finish.

      Did you get a look at Stenhouse’ wife.

      Phew!, What a babe!


      • DA May 7, 2017 at 10:03 pm #

        I’ve slowly been drawn in by NASCAR. What a spectacle! If we’re going to worship American technical ingenuity, then this is the epitome. Hate to sound racist, but all of the other sports, are purely physical pursuits. janos is probably right on this count.

        • thwack May 8, 2017 at 8:34 am #

          Hate to sound racist, but all of the other sports, are purely physical pursuits.


          You don’t have the balls for NASCAR or the square circle.

          You also lack the heart and mental toughness.

          You get hurt in practice.

  84. Pucker May 7, 2017 at 9:46 pm #

    According to the book “Generation Me”, about 25% of Millennial males get cornholed at least once a year. I don’t know if this is related to their medical insurance coverage?

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  85. Pucker May 8, 2017 at 12:02 am #

    We should let the States decide whether people want to get “ass-raped” (“cornholed”).

  86. janet May 8, 2017 at 12:22 am #

    “Oh yea, tis gonna be a f-kkin utopia once the ladies finally take over. They’ve taken over in Sweden and Germany…”

    Don’t forget about Iceland, brh. Women are smarter and in control there. The women-run banks did not go bankrupt, but all the male-run banks did. Then the women sent the corrupt male bankers to jail. Feminism is growing in strength because women are superior and women can no longer be suppressed by antiquated male chauvinism.

  87. rapier May 8, 2017 at 6:58 am #

    In West Michigan where I live and I assume most of the US, hospitals are monopolies. Beyond the hospitals themselves the 3 largest regional ones have associated urgent care, orthopedic and other facilities. Then there are the specialist doctors who are associated with the hospital with cardiac, ophthalmology and other fields having large newer fancy facilities. Then there are other associated general practitioner’s practices. All tied together in a ‘system’.

    One oddity is that the hospitals and their ‘systems’ are not for profit however they fight tooth and nail to keep the neighboring ‘systems’ from encroaching on their ‘territory’ even as they try to move into the others area. All are in endless expansion and improvement mode of the main hospital and it’s satellites. For profit or not they act just like for profit companies. It’s easy to see that expansion increases the pay and prestige of the administrators and the volume of business for the practices of the ‘associated’ doctors.

    If one travels to rural areas away from such metro systems one invariably finds that the newest buildings are often medical ones, along with the inevitable retail and fast food outposts of the national and international corporations.


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