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     So-called Normies might be musing, this month of approved mental languor, whether the mighty efforts to suppress news of all kinds, about everything, have concealed the true tendings of our wayward country — leading them to wonder whether it is even possible to be a Normie in such an abnormal time and place.

     What news is suppressed? That the USA is worse than dead broke. That the people were poisoned, apparently on-purpose. That the spectral “Joe Biden” sold out our country. That the war we started in Ukraine, on purpose, for no good reason, is about to be lost, and with it our standing around world. That there actually is such a criminal organism as the Blob at large in our government, responsible for the astounding abnormality immersing us. But never mind all that… for now, just go see Barbie. Have a clam roll, a dip in the ocean, another margarita…. September will be here soon enough.

     Eventually, the official perversion of money — especially of borrowing an awesome lot of it with no intention of ever repaying — leads to the unhappy circumstance of money disappearing until nobody has any money. And by such, the broke-ness of the government transmogrifies to a whole land full of broke people. Many banks go broke as well. Even the high-fliers who hoarded things that purport to represent money go broke. Then, nobody has the means to buy anything. Businesses that can’t sell anything stop being businesses. After a while, no activity is meaningful except grubbing in the soil to grow some food, or stealing it from those who grubbed and grew it. By then, you can barely even call it a society.

     By September, we’ll have some idea where all that is heading. The bond market is wobbling because the government can’t stop increasing its spending. America issues more and more bonds to borrow ever more money, but to the world’s bond-buyers (a.k.a. lenders), what used to be considered virtually risk-free now looks like a bad bet. So, the enticement to buy, which is called the interest rate, has to go up. But as it goes up, the cash value of existing bonds goes down (who wants the older bonds when the newer ones pay more?)

     The holders of bonds are mainly big institutions: banks, pension funds, insurance companies, sovereign wealth funds (other countries). They put their large holdings into bonds because in normal times they are safe and dependable investments. But these are abnormal times. When the value of their bonds goes down a lot, the value of their reserves goes down. And when those reserves get reduced too much in relation to the institutions’ liabilities (what they owe), the institutions go bankrupt. When that happens, the people who are vested in those institutions lose their money, too, and end up having to sell stocks and other property to meet their obligations. This ends up looking like what we call “a crash.” It will get Normies’ attention.

     How’s it going with the poisoning of America? Since Elon Musk bought Twitter (now “X”), the app has developed a beefed-up immune system against censorship aimed at it by the FBI, CIA, DHS, and the White House. Twitter is once again a popular medium of information exchange, where news flows pretty freely these days. Even news of previous censorship and cancellation is getting out — and with interesting possibilities for consequences.

     The many brave doctors who questioned the “vaccine” story, are being heard now. Other entrepreneurial analysts on Twitter — e.g., Edward Dowd, The Unity Project, “The Ethical Skeptic,” “Chief Nerd”— regularly publish data and charts showing America and the rest of the world just how much damage the mRNA shots did to millions of people, how many have been disabled and killed by them. By September, the awareness of what has been done, and the psychopathic degree of official lying about it, could pass that threshold beyond which everybody knows and the great crime is revealed. Expect a major American political attitude adjustment.

     There is surely enough publicly-seen evidence to make an impeachment case against “Joe Biden.” The process seems to move slowly, given the traditional lassitude of Congress, but momentum is building as all these other national fiascos careen toward criticality due to abysmal executive leadership. That evidence shows the Biden Family engaged in an international racketeering scheme to peddle “JB’s” influence when he was vice-president. That’s bribery and the very word is in the short passage of our Constitution describing the grounds for sacking a high official.

     Rep. Comer’s House Oversight Committee has already dug up voluminous suspicious activity reports in Biden family bank accounts and has promised more, including information of offshore hidden accounts. Jim Jordan’s preliminary impeachment inquiry has drawn up its first witness list which includes the shadowy “JB” aide Michael Carpenter, and the slippery Trump impeachment “whistleblower,” CIA agent Eric Ciaramella — who essentially accused Mr. Trump of attempting to look into the very bribery crimes of the Biden family lately exposed, a pungent irony. When the impeachment process gets underway in earnest this fall, I expect “Joe Biden” will resign, leaving Ms. Harris to be managed by the shadow-president Barack Obama. That in itself will become a crisis of its own.

       Our country has vested its prestige and treasure — but not our blood, at least yet — in the preposterous Ukraine proxy war, completely misjudging every element of it. The Russiaphobia of so many Blob officials was amplified by their own dishonest efforts to blame Russia for all the self-created ills of our own national life. The dirty secret of the Ukraine war is that we are no longer in control of events. The Russians are going to settle things there and that poor palooka of a country will be wrested back into their traditional sphere-of-influence, no more to be a troublemaker. I doubt that our puppet, Mr. Zelensky will be in power by Halloween. NATO will cease to exist and each nation of Europe will then struggle to settle its own sovereign hash without much of an industrial economy left. Expect governments to fall.

      In the meantime, enjoy the clam rolls, the surf, the corn-dogs at the fair, and all the other blessings of languorous August. Rest up for what’s coming when Normies awake!


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939 Responses to “Normies Awake!”

  1. malthuss August 7, 2023 at 9:48 am #

    I hope JHK lets this comment remain.

    NASCAR Bans Noah Grigson For Laughing At a Joke.

    • JackStraw August 7, 2023 at 10:14 am #

      Noah had wrongthoughts. He must be punished.

    • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 12:05 pm #

      What was the joke?

      • WadeWaters August 7, 2023 at 12:32 pm #

        “I’m looking for the joke with a microscope” – Iggy Pop

      • WayfaringStranger August 7, 2023 at 12:45 pm #

        It was a tacky meme that would have otherwise sunk into the abyss. Or the sea. A lame word play involving George Floyd, a song from the Disney Ariel movie, and the knee on the neck.

    • WayfaringStranger August 7, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

      I never check back so I had no idea JHK was ever punitive.

      • malthuss August 7, 2023 at 1:46 pm #

        with the ability to add via ‘reply’ checking back is kinda needed.

    • mary.m August 7, 2023 at 3:46 pm #

      Some 20 years ago, on a lunchtime walk in a suburban office park, I was detained by the police for telling a drive-by busybody who stopped, not for directions as I expected, but to ask if she could “help me.

      “Sure,” I replied, annoyed to have my noontime rambling, peaceful thought-time needlessly disrupted, “Just shoot me now.”

      I wandered off & knelt by a little creek to ruminate to its babbling.

      Minutes later I was detained for a half hour by 2 cops, who had to wait for their supervisor to get permission to set me free rather than incarcerate me for a 72 hour “watch.”

      I was let off with a warning about making jokes.

      Seriously.

      • ThorsHammer August 9, 2023 at 1:20 am #

        What is a Normie?

        In a normal society of homo sapiens there always festers a small group of men (and women) who want to rise above the mass of people. They are the priests, kings and vassals, manipulators and hangers-on who seek to live a favored life without working like the lesser classes.

        And then there were the Normies who did their best to avoid their rulers and go about their lives harvesting their crops, tending their domesticated animals, and making babies with their wives. The notion that men could become women and women men was beyond conceivable. When such insanity did surface it was soon dealt with by burning at the stake. Occasionally the king’s demands became too onerous and the people revolted, but soon things reverted to normal with a slightly different cast of characters and life went on.

        Then “sapiens” learned how to domesticate and ride wild horses, and in a geological eye blink horses became lithium ion powered mobile fire bombs known as Teslas. The near-earth skies swarmed with artificial moons continually broadcasting approved thoughts designed to further the power and control of the new high priests of the species. “Social Science” penetrated the very core of the human computer, and without fully understanding it, learned how to program its operating systems. Humans have evolved as a tribal species, but in the new world loyalties to the tribe no longer mean following the best spear thrower in your small nomadic group but mean pledging unquestioned allegiance to the rulers of a billion people who happen to have the same hair and skin color.

        In this New World it was a trivial exercise to get a majority of the Normies to volunteer to have their biological genetic system altered, their social interaction processes destroyed, and their economic support system ripped apart. It only took three years of total propaganda around largely ineffective biological warfare agent. Once Fear was the new normal and rationality forever banned, it is Normal to follow sociopathic leaders blindly down the path that only leads to nuclear incineration.

        The New Normie sits behind a computer screen in a mobile office somewhere in Nevada. In his right hand is a joy stick controlling a lightly armed drone on its mission to splat against the Kremlin building and leave a smokey kiss for the NATO news cameras next morning.

        When the Normie checks in for work each morning he receives his orders for the day. The launch orders for the Trident sub lurking in the waters off Sweden look little different than yesterday’s drone mission. Far be it to him to question them.

        And you want me to believe that the brain damaged New Normie can somehow be rescued and returned to full humanity?

        • Q. Shtik August 9, 2023 at 11:30 am #

          Far be it to him to question them. – Thors

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          from

        • Jarek August 9, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

          The Abnormies. Look at those abs must have a new, secret meaning.

    • MelvinHashbrown August 10, 2023 at 9:21 am #

      Russia’s losing and Rump’s going to die in prison. So sad for you traitors.

  2. cowbell81 August 7, 2023 at 9:49 am #

    And speaking of being awake, nor not, another potential Covid vaxx death we can all add to the list:

    Former Tennis Star Dies of Massive Heart Attack at 31

    Former college tennis star Lilly Kimbell died of a heart attack at 31 after she suddenly collapsed at home and was rushed to the hospital.

    Despite efforts to perform CPR and save her life, doctors determined she had a massive heart attack. The lack of oxygen left her brain unable to regain consciousness, and she was removed from life support.

    Kimbell was one of the most successful tennis players in collegiate history. She won a staggering 197 victories, including 109 in doubles and 88 in singles. She reached the NCAA Quarterfinals four times.

    Kimbell’s sister, Samantha Gillas, said, “Yesterday heaven gained another angel.”

    “I really don’t know what to say. I am lost for words and in complete shock, but at the same time I have so much I could say. It all seems so surreal and I’m just waiting to wake up from this bad dream and I’ll see you coming downstairs,” Gillas said. (Trending: Trans Women Wins Major Sports Event)

    “Besides what you did on the court I looked up to you as a person. You had this ability to make everyone smile. Whenever we walked into the room you would be surrounded by people laughing and smiling. Everyone seemed to gravitate towards you,” Gillas added.

    “I’m still trying to process why God had this happen to you at 31 years old. I shouldn’t had to say goodbye to my sister at 22 years old. I love you so much Lilly. I know you’re looking down at us watching over. You were so talented and loved by so many,” she concluded.

    httpsXX://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/tennis/former-tennis-star-dies-of-massive-heart-attack-at-31/ar-AA1eS9n4

    • malthuss August 7, 2023 at 10:09 am #

      I saw that in a news feed yesterday.
      Lots of show biz folks dying as well.

    • izzy August 7, 2023 at 1:00 pm #

      God had nothing to do with it.
      Another sad story to add to the millions that are continuously piling up. The tendency to immediately slip into the supernatural allows too many people to avoid what is now obvious.

      • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 1:02 pm #

        The supernatural IS the permanent world. The physical is temporary.

        • Vegan Shark August 7, 2023 at 4:17 pm #

          tuco22,

          Thanks for pointing out that profound truth.

          Rather than “supernatural,” I suggest the word “spiritual.” Nothing is beyond natural, but nature has many dimensions, some not ordinarily perceived; no less (or more) real than the physical.

  3. RaymondR August 7, 2023 at 9:57 am #

    I wonder if RFK Jr. is the Gray Hero of this 4th Turning

    • messianicdruid August 7, 2023 at 10:22 am #

      Will he, like his father, receive a 22 minute standing ovation at the Democratic National Convention?

      • C.O.Jones August 7, 2023 at 12:11 pm #

        The DNC has informed New Hampshire and Georgia that if RFK Jr is on the ballot, their delegates will not count toward the nomination.

        I heard RFK Jr say that in an interview last week.

        This really is the United States.

        • mrs_saj August 7, 2023 at 1:58 pm #

          How is that legal?

          • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 2:01 pm #

            Who’s gonna say they can’t?

          • Beryl of Oyl August 7, 2023 at 4:09 pm #

            DNC is a private organization.

          • Uncle Bob August 7, 2023 at 7:21 pm #

            Beryl said it. Since it’s a private political organization, they can make up whatever rules they want under the First Amendment. Remember, they’re the Party of the Little Guy.

        • neurodoc August 8, 2023 at 2:35 pm #

          No this is not the United States of America; that entity was usurped and fell under the control of the United States of America Corporation many years ago. Look it up (they hide, so its not easy to find). The USCorp is the corrupt, deep state entity that tyrannically overlords all of us, until we decide, as a group, to forcefully stop it, move to another country, or secede.

          • C.O.Jones August 9, 2023 at 8:19 am #

            You’re right, neurodoc.

            Those who claim to be the opposition – think Alex Jones and his ilk – are on the internet claiming the people are winning, we’ve got the deep state right where we want them and all we have to do is be calm and not fight back.

            That’s the same sort of BS concentration camp inmates were told as they were marched off to the ovens.

      • FlashBazbo August 7, 2023 at 7:23 pm #

        My guess is they won’t let him within three blocks of the joint

        • C.O.Jones August 8, 2023 at 11:26 am #

          If you read The Real Anthony Fauci by RFK Jr. and/or listen to the interviews he’s given, the deep state is shaking in their boots at the thought of this guy becoming president.

          Trump never intended to drain the swamp, instead serving as a distraction with the impeachment du jour.

          Bobby Kennedy is serious about dismantling the deep state that murdered his dad and his uncle.

          DNC will do everything they can to prevent him from being elected.

          • ThorsHammer August 9, 2023 at 1:33 am #

            RFK jr is that rare politician that deserves our respect. For that reason he is a Dead Man Walking in the land of Evil.

          • C.O.Jones August 9, 2023 at 8:24 am #

            I hope you’re mistaken, ThorsHammer. I pray you’re mistaken.

            To be base, RFK Jr’s brain is twice the size of his bawse and he needs a wheelbarrow in front of him to carry those thangs.

            He gets it.

          • ThorsHammer August 9, 2023 at 10:39 am #

            @ CO Jones

            If Kennedy “gets it” does he have an army of agents capable of protecting him? This week he spoke before a massive crowd of 10,000 willing to listen through his painfully damaged voice for the kernels of truth contained therein.

            A modern .338 Lapa sniper rifle is precisely effective at 3/4 of a mile (to say nothing of grassy knolls) and is available at almost any gun swap meet or in the hands of military contractors for hire. Is it possible to guard against that? Certainly not while speaking face to face to the People about the real world.

          • C.O.Jones August 9, 2023 at 4:09 pm #

            @ ThorsHammer

            Yes, his voice is hard to listen to but it gets easier to take if you hear him. The truth is hard to take!

            One third of the money contributed to his campaign goes to RFK Jr’s security. I am praying he is smart enough to tell the truth and stay alive.

            To answer your question: it would take divine intervention to protect against the scenario you suggest. That’s why I pray.

            Can you imagine if a credible percentage of the populace stated “That’s MY president and if you deep state bastards harm him in any way, you will be held accountable!” ?

          • Alfred August 10, 2023 at 3:26 pm #

            Inigo Montoya 2024

            “You killed my father, and my uncle, prepare to die.”

            He’s got my vote.

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  4. DyersEve August 7, 2023 at 10:02 am #

    I don’t think the normies will awake. I think it’s too frightening to awake. I think they stay comfortably numb with porn, drugs, alcohol, sports, stoopid propaganda news and entertainment until they are boiling like the proverbial frog. There is something more going on here – it’s a deep dark spiritual malaise that has infected them. It is Satanic in nature and there’s only one cure for that.

    • megabeth August 7, 2023 at 10:13 am #

      What’s the cure? Exorcism? Rolaids?

      • DyersEve August 7, 2023 at 10:30 am #

        I won’t prosthelytize here on what I specifically believe but a legitimate spirituality is what is missing. America is lost in modernity and materiality. And I mean lost lost.

        • Cankerpuss August 7, 2023 at 10:55 am #

          Dyers, I completely and whole heartedly agree with you. The more and more America rejects God and religion the greater the malaise of our society. I don’t find it ironic that all this has come to a point after we eliminated prayer from our schools, legalized homosexual marriage, took women out of the roles of mother hood, legalized wholesale infanticide with abortion, destroyed the nuclear family, and destroyed the importance of Fatherhood to society. God’s way has been decimated by the evil one who has a firm grip on the people of our day.

          Just look around you at the people you see. Nobody takes pride in themselves anymore. People are covered with disgusting tattoos, piercings, immodest and filthy. I’m always shocked when I venture to the retail store how down right ugly and utterly frightening many people appear these days. It’s as if they have lost their divine spark, their meaning for life, their willingness to improve themselves.

          It is as exactly as prophesied for thousands of years by the prophets of old.

          • cowbell81 August 7, 2023 at 11:12 am #

            Yes, tattoos! These were once meant for sailors and heathen island inhabitants or natives from the Dark Continent. Now tattoos are all over modern America. Just disgusting. And I would argue that there is an inverse ratio that the more tattoos on a body, the lower that person’s IQ level.

            And don’t even get me started on all the obese fat people lumbering along from aisle to aisle in the supermarkets, loading up on cheese doodles and soda pop.

          • Ishabaka August 7, 2023 at 11:35 am #

            In my work, I deal with all facets of society. It used to be easy to tell a psychopath by their tattoos. Now a skull with a dagger in one eye socket and snake coming out the other is liable to be sported by a debutante.

          • Wizard of the Saddle August 7, 2023 at 12:43 pm #

            I agree. Half the country looks like they are auditioning as “Walkers” on “The Walking Dead.”

          • WayfaringStranger August 7, 2023 at 12:53 pm #

            Just a thought here, the things you list are symptoms more of a political nature. Lower level expressions of the core problem. Moving up the sin and degradation food chain we have “thou shall have no gods before me”.
            The many ways in which Man has taken the place of, or is attempting to take the place of God would be the real problem. Playing God in any form, big mistake.

          • JackStraw August 7, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

            This discussion brings up the memories of some of Jim’s conversations with Duncan on the subject of tattoos.

            As he stated a few times, tats should be limited to the original group of cannibals, sailors and prostitutes.

            Anybody I meet with tats is immediately downgraded to lowlife status in my eyes, just above pitbull owners.

          • Beryl of Oyl August 7, 2023 at 1:15 pm #

            I remember when I was small, in the summertime you would see some of the rough-looking men with what looked like a meat stamp on their arm.

            That’s where tattoos were, on the shoulder area or perhaps on the forearm.

            Nowadays nobody remembers meat stamps.

            Tattoos did not come in colors like they do now.

          • Cactus Girl August 7, 2023 at 1:18 pm #

            @WayfaringStranger:

            “thou shall have no gods before me”.

            True story: An American Indian shaman, when told of this statement by Yahweh, replied, “Huh. Typical desert God.”

            The real fall of the West began when Europeans adopted (often at the point of a sword) a God wholly unsuited to their racial temperament. It drove them all mad.

          • Vegan Shark August 7, 2023 at 4:53 pm #

            Nobody takes pride in themselves anymore. People are covered with disgusting tattoos, piercings, immodest and filthy.

            I have also noticed the expansion of the tattoo plague. At first, it was fairly unusual, limited to hard core rebels and never-wanna-grow-up types. But it seems like, only in the past two or three years, skin ink has gone mainstream.

            It’s especially painful when I see a young, attractive woman with a whole-arm, “sleeve” tattoo or similar. The rosy freshness of youth lasts but a brief time. It feels almost criminal to willingly defile it.

            Now I see nose rings on women all over the place, reminding me of cows in the field. What next, metal tags on ear lobes?

            The freaky-deakies’ self-mutilation is probably part of the same phenomenon that includes gender switching. Under the surface, it’s a last pitiful gesture of defiance to a world empty of ideals and truth.

          • Bobby E August 8, 2023 at 4:59 pm #

            Regarding tattoos. It boils down to; do they see themselves as a Chevy Chevette or a Rolls Royce Wraith? The Chevette has no self-respect and will easily acquire any number of bumper stickers. But the Wraith? I didn’t think so.

        • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 12:11 pm #

          Can a system that has to keep growing or collapse, viable? On a limited planet?

          Humanity wants “more”. There has to be more to life than matter if we are going to deal with the limits of matter in a graceful fashion.

          Those that say that we can support ten times as many people may be right (though I doubt it) simply avoid the existential question. What your number is reached, what then? You’ll have even less slack to figure it out then we have now.

          On a practical, political level: Any such endeavor would require global governance, and they have shown they have no interest in such a grotesque experiment. They want us all but gone, both physically and spiritually.

          • ThorsHammer August 9, 2023 at 10:50 am #

            +++

      • Phineas August 7, 2023 at 11:27 am #

        Repent of your sins and receive forgiveness by the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ.

        • jim e August 7, 2023 at 5:52 pm #

          I could be wrong but i do not think that Jesus is a very good translation of his name. His mother certainly never called him by that name but what do women know.

          • Leo Higgins August 8, 2023 at 12:05 pm #

            Well, that may be true, but Mary didn’t call Him by the name used for Him throughout the original Greek of the New Testament, either. I don’t have Greek fonts, but Iesous is the Latin alphabet equivalent. The NT is held to be the inspired word of God, no? Well, this establishes the principle that one does not need to insist on Yeshua as the *only* acceptable way to say His name. If Iesous is good enough for the NT writers, then other forms can derive from the NT precedent.

            Indeed, the Apostolic churches hold that the three languages used on the sign placed on the cross to describe the “criminal” named Jesus Christ are sacred languages because of their presence on said sign. One of those languages was Latin. His name on that sign in Latin was…Jesus! Well, Iesus, actually. But the non-pedant principle has already been established.

            Howboutdat!

          • Bobby E August 8, 2023 at 5:07 pm #

            What did his mother call him? José? No, that’s what she called her dupe of a husband. We talk about the disintegration of the importance of men as husbands and fathers. Look no further for where it started than good old Joe in the bible. His getting “short shrift” is an egregious understatement.

          • jim e August 8, 2023 at 11:06 pm #

            We are in the sign of Leo… I am Virgo.

          • jim e August 8, 2023 at 11:12 pm #

            Think the Sphinx

        • DyersEve August 7, 2023 at 11:45 pm #

          Amen

        • Woodchuck August 9, 2023 at 12:15 pm #

          As is obvious by the replies, CFN forum is a poor place to “witness” in. All these here heathens in this place are gonna be hootin’, hollerin’, and making jokes about ya. Others will derail and wreck the thread and start writing about history and interpreting Greek.

      • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 1:03 pm #

        Destruction. Sooner or later, one of the BRICS countries is going to find us a liability.

        • DaveO907 August 7, 2023 at 7:23 pm #

          A foregone conclusion already baked in the cake.
          Essentially, BRICS’s raison d’ être.

        • neurodoc August 8, 2023 at 2:51 pm #

          The BRICS+ group IS the destruction of the USCorporation by its very existence. The BRICS+ is the destruction of the US$ which is the heart and ‘soul’ of the USCorp. Once the US$ is no longer accepted by 80%+ of the world, it will not only NOT be the world’s reserve currency (allowing us to avoid inflation at home by exporting it), the US$ will be a worthless pariah currency that can purchase exactly nothing!

      • ThorsHammer August 9, 2023 at 10:08 am #

        The cure?

        Nuclear war
        A higher percentage of Neanderthal genes in the surviving genome.
        Starting the Human experiment over again in Tasmania.

    • JackStraw August 7, 2023 at 10:17 am #

      I have to agree with you on that. The cognitive dissonance in the left is so ingrained, and so heavily supported by all of the MSM, that they can’t be brought back to reality.

      • tresho August 7, 2023 at 10:22 am #

        “they can’t be brought back to reality” Death has a way to do just that, but once they’re dead their opinions on reality are not longer relevant.

        • benr August 7, 2023 at 10:42 am #

          But they have taken over the system.
          They just churn out more and more purple haired freaks who think chopping off an offending body part magically turns them into the other sex denying the very science they claim Conservatives don’t understand or follow.

          I have yet to get one to answer my why science is right on anthropogenic CLIMATE CHANGE BUT WRONG ON GENDER.

          It really does seem like people have lost their grip on reality and common sense.

          • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 12:29 pm #

            Thinking themselves wise, they are become as fools.

          • Wizard of the Saddle August 7, 2023 at 12:44 pm #

            The body part they need to chop off is their skulls full of mush.

          • Cactus Girl August 7, 2023 at 1:20 pm #

            @benr: “I have yet to get one to answer my why science is right on anthropogenic CLIMATE CHANGE BUT WRONG ON GENDER.”

            For the same reason “My body, my choice” doesn’t apply to the v a x.”

      • Not_GeorgeT August 7, 2023 at 10:32 am #

        They are completely vested in the the lie.

        A sizeable number still maintain it is ‘truth’.

        I have noticed people who occasionally called to inquire about my health because I would not get ‘the jab’ have stopped calling.

        The proudly vaxxed and boosted are apparently self-removing from my life.

        I don’t spend any time making inquiries.

        • benr August 7, 2023 at 10:45 am #

          Yes!
          My dads girlfriend is a vaxxed up idiot who thinks anyone who did not get the poison shot is heretic.
          To the point she engineered all the text I sent him to go to her assistant who pretended to be him.
          The jig was up when she accidently sent me a meeting request and then told me wrong number.
          Two weeks later I still have not heard from him but once when I finally told him his girlfriend was a whacko control freak.

          • cowbell81 August 7, 2023 at 10:50 am #

            Is she in it just for the inheritance? She sounds like a complete whack job. I would get a good lawyer to make sure she is not pulling a fast one in the last will and testament.

          • Islander August 7, 2023 at 1:13 pm #

            Benr,
            What you describe could also be interpreted as garden variety elder abuse.

            Her covid “reason” for isolating your father from you could well be a pretext. Or a convenient pretext that :justifies” her taking control of his life and isolating him from children.

            I agree with Cowbell. Maybe avoid discussion with your father of the jabs and just ensure that you have **direct** contact with him on a regular basis. Sideline this gatekeeper bitch.

            Just my 2c/ worth!

          • mrs_saj August 7, 2023 at 2:10 pm #

            benr,

            I would do some investigation if I were you.

            My dad’s divorce from his second wife was finalized less than three months ago. She divorced him. I had to get involved with the court to corral the paperwork to finalize the proceedings. He is extremely bad with money. She is even worse. She is younger than I am. And by the end of the marriage, she out earned him by 4x, underwitheld on her pay, and accrued about $10k in tax liability each year. on their joint tax returns.

            The damage a spouse can do to your parent’s finances is, quite frankly, beyond your imagination.

          • benr August 7, 2023 at 5:49 pm #

            This is a control thing not money.
            She makes like $300 an hour and he makes social security.
            The elder abuse angle does make sense especially since he is a 75 year old hippy surfer go with the flow type.

      • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 1:03 pm #

        Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.

      • gantech August 8, 2023 at 5:58 am #

        You are right

      • gantech August 8, 2023 at 9:09 am #

        Truer words never spoken

    • cowbell81 August 7, 2023 at 10:20 am #

      Right in time for football season to come. I find that football season always brings about the most stupendous dumbing down of America in timely fashion each year.

      And as for porn, if you’ve seen one hardcore flick you’ve pretty much seen them all. It gets pretty passe seeing one waxed and airbrushed body piled on top of another.

      • abbybwood August 7, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

        I wonder how many high school, college and pro football players we will see drop this season? Add basketball players too.

      • Islander August 7, 2023 at 1:14 pm #

        Pretending to be incoherent with passion!!!

    • GrantK August 7, 2023 at 10:45 am #

      I have to agree, on the specific of the jabs. Not by fall anyways.

      I could write a moderate paper on my experience trying to awaken folk to jab dangers. Out of around 10 people I tried hard with, I changed 1 mind. A second who appeared convinced was actually a cult member waiting for me to stop talking: as soon as she was free to do so she darted off to hug her torturers and topped up on the jabs.

      For others several are at least aware there is a different viewpoint than the MSM and ‘the authorities’; now they are sure that I went down a rabbit hole, are they pondering an ‘intervention’?

      I tried hard but very carefully. After a full on sledgehammer attempt backfired, I mostly wait for avenues the normies open up themselves, drop a quick truth bomb in “Well it is proven the covid cases were hugely inflated, PROVEN mind.” and just let that steep. Little drip drip events related directly to what they were saying.

      Cult deprogramming, or breaking an effective brainwashing, or weakening the mass formation a la M Desmet, whatever you want to call it, is just brutally difficult.

      • Ron Anselmo August 7, 2023 at 11:22 am #

        Grant – why even bother? We’re only given so much time. There are plenty of other ways to use our time more wisely & more productively.

        • Wizard of the Saddle August 7, 2023 at 3:21 pm #

          I agree. My feeling is that the COVID jabs were nothing less than a Darwinian winnowing out process. The smart, informed, and logical thinkers avoided the jabs and will survive to pass on their genes.

          Not so much with the Branch COVIDians. They will all be found piled up in heaps around the Kool-Aid tank.

          • ThorsHammer August 9, 2023 at 10:55 am #

            @Wizard

            “Jonestown” by Concrete Blonde

        • DaveO907 August 8, 2023 at 11:09 am #

          @Ron—Pound head against wall—or anvil. Repeat until unconscious. Eventually it (your perception or your skull) will sink in.
          It has been the most difficult phase of this entire operation They cooked up. shouting on street corners with former friends, they themselves just as defiant in their wrongheadedness. Have to let it (and them) go. Tragic and sad, but life goes on. Just like arguing with the hardcore Dems, the same tribe, it’s futile.

      • mrs_saj August 7, 2023 at 11:30 am #

        GrantK,

        One in ten is far better than I’ve fared. I’ve never changed anyone’s mind. Ron Anselmo is right, just let people do what they’re going to do. But let me add, take mental notes on what you see in your sphere and update everyone here!

        I will be fascinated to watch the annual flu shot season this year to see if there is any uptake for annual clot shots as well. I’m not very good at the prediction game, but I think excess mortality rates are going to head higher.

        Fauci’s replacement at NIAID is just as loony and just as big of a liar as he is. There is no return to normalcy coming on that front.

        • abbybwood August 7, 2023 at 12:28 pm #

          Careful with the flu shots. I have read where some corporate doctors will be giving a single jab for flu and Covid!

          Yes! They are that devious. I wouldn’t be surprised if some doctors say, “Sorry. To get the flu shot you have to have the Covid too.” So many will say, “Okay!”

          • mrs_saj August 7, 2023 at 2:53 pm #

            abbybwood,

            I’ve heard that, too, about combining the shots into one. I’ve never had a flu shot and I won’t start now.

          • Wizard of the Saddle August 7, 2023 at 3:24 pm #

            I’ve heard this as well. But no worries. After the COVID jabs fraud that did it for me. I used to be fine with vaccinations. Not anymore. I don’t take any vaxx’s for anything now. I have no trust in the people creating the formulations. God only knows what they will put in them next.

          • megabeth August 7, 2023 at 7:03 pm #

            I was always a believer in vaccinations, but in my personal life, they are sometimes very bad news. An MMR booster shotgunned my first case of Graves’ disease, then 15 years later, my first flu shot caused it to flare up even worse, disfiguring my eyes. And my brother-in-law and my husband, both born in the mid-1950s, stopped walking for a few weeks as toddlers following their Sabin polio vaccines. My husband was in the hospital in traction for 3 weeks.

            I will never get another flu shot, never will get a COVID shot, and while I’m at it, plan on deferring all vaccines from here on out, except, perhaps, a tetanus booster.

          • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 7:18 pm #

            I was a believer also, megabeth. I even asked for a MMR as an adult, because I hadn’t had mumps, even though I had the measles and German measles.

            The nurse told me that adults should not take the MMR, because it can cause arthritis.

            Then a couple of years later, in a mumps outbreak, I was tested and it turned out that I am immune to mumps after tall.
            My neighbor had them, and apparently I built up an immunity even though I never actually had the disease.

            My fb friend, who eventually unfriended me over the GMO vax, had herself tested for tetanus, to see if she needed a booster, and she did not. Her mother, who worked for the CDC, told her to do it.

            I hadn’t even thought of that. I have gotten a tetanus shot every time I’ve ever stepped on a nail. No more.

            It turns out that if you have an ethical vet, you can have your dog tested, rather than jab them every year.

            My friend’s dog went deaf after one rabies shot. No more rabies shots for my dogs, either.

          • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 7:21 pm #

            But I never wanted the flu shot. I got fired in Dec. 2015 for refusing the shot.

            It was part of Obamacare that every medical employee has to get shot every year, or they will withhold Medicare payments to the hospital or clinic.
            Just another corporate giveaway as part of the ACA.

            And there are still democrats who think it was a good thing.

          • Heartlander August 7, 2023 at 8:25 pm #

            Also, the flu shots either already are, or soon will be, mRNA shots. Indeed, the push is on to make ALL inoculations mRNA-based, i.e, genetic concoctions. Beware!

          • Grandpa August 7, 2023 at 10:03 pm #

            this is for Paula in specificity, but so y’all know – a tetanus shot won’t do you any good if you step on a nail and go get one. It takes weeks for the stuff in the shot to be effective in your body; if stepping on a rusty nail was going to kill you or give you “lockjaw” – you’d get it or be dead before the shot had any efficacy for you.
            I’ll try to find the link and post it, it wasn’t that long ago that I read it.

          • Paula D August 8, 2023 at 11:49 am #

            I believe you Grandpa. If someone stepped on a nail and had never had a tetanus shot, they would need tetanus immunoglobin, not tetanus toxid.

            So why get a booster when you step on a nail? Beats me. It is a custom, so I never thought about it.

          • Paula D August 8, 2023 at 11:52 am #

            And if you’ve had a tetanus shot within the last 5 years, you don’t need another one, so obviously whoever made up the rules knew that.
            The rest of us just follow them without thinking it through.

            Kind of like everything else they tell us.

          • Q. Shtik August 8, 2023 at 12:01 pm #

            I was tested and it turned out that I am immune to mumps after tall.
            My neighbor had them, – Paula

            ===========

            them?

            Is mumps plural? as in one mump, many mumps?

            Just curious.

    • Cankerpuss August 7, 2023 at 10:57 am #

      Spot on, Dyers. There are many distractions from what truly matters.

      “Deep Dark Spiritual Malaise” that has been prophesied about for thousands of years. It is here. Brace yourself.

    • hortonz August 7, 2023 at 11:07 am #

      The media will do everything they can to deflect and distract the normies by inventing new narratives that cast the guilty as victims and their critics as heartless opportunists, They’ll gin up sympathy for Hunter Biden’s drug problems and cast sleepy Joe in the role of heartbroken father dealing with a helpless drug addict of a son while portraying the Republicans as mean-spirited bullies taking advantage of the Biden family’s private troubles to win back power, Bet on it.

      • chopper August 7, 2023 at 11:55 am #

        I don’t try to show Normie’s anything anymore. The die is cast so they will be swept along with exposure after exposure of lies they have believed for decades. They are a special kind of stupid that are easy to fool.

    • Billy Hill August 7, 2023 at 11:07 am #

      “I think they stay comfortably numb with porn, drugs, alcohol, sports, stoopid propaganda news and entertainment until they are boiling like the proverbial frog.”

      Having ventured North from my cloister in South Hickville this past summer to visit family I’d have to qualify the “Numb with porn, drugs, alcohol, and sports” blanket description. On the contrary I found sobriety and complete certitude that their Weltanschauung was based securely in empirical fact.

      So long as the propaganda industry maintains the daily drumbeat of orthodoxy I see no evidence that enclaves of privilege such as I visited will stray. The mindset has progressed so far that propaganda may no longer even be needed.

      Maybe that big ol’ 2×4 (per today’s post) on its way to upside the collective head will move the needle but I am not holding my breath.

      • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 2:03 pm #

        That Pink Floyd song comes to mind.

      • canuk August 9, 2023 at 8:18 am #

        “Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
        And you think you’re so clever and classless and free
        But you’re still fucking peasants as far as I can see
        A working class hero is something to be
        A working class hero is something to be”

        John Lennon, “Working Class Hero”

    • Hereward the Woke August 7, 2023 at 4:17 pm #

      Correct, Dyerseve. There is evil upon the face of the Earth

      • jim e August 8, 2023 at 6:25 pm #

        Some say that evil is also below the face of Earth (Sheol). Evil may also be in the waters above the firmament. The wandering star Venus, when it proceeds the sun in the morning is Lucifer…

    • Why_weren't_we_asked_about_Degrowth August 7, 2023 at 5:44 pm #

      Football

    • Uncle Bob August 7, 2023 at 7:24 pm #

      There’s apparently a Rasmussen poll that shows a large majority of Americans believe Biden sold his office and broke the law, but they don’t want him to be impeached. Fear and criminality have won.

    • FGB3 August 7, 2023 at 7:39 pm #

      Now you are there! Bingo! There is something more going on. It’s as if a switch was turned on. Going from what we had in 2016, which was bad but not crazy bad. But when The Donald actually won over The Witch, the Cabal got their own wake-up call. And the call came from You Know Who.

  5. Beryl of Oyl August 7, 2023 at 10:06 am #

    That crumbling infrastructure is one of the main reasons I voted for Trump.

    That poisoning on purpose is the sole reason I would consider voting for RFK Jr. for president.

    Biden’s behavior- the man who purportedly is running to wrest the Democrat nomination from the incumbent has brought up the corruption in Ukraine; but I keep checking every day and I haven’t seen him mention the persecution of a political rival at all.

    Instead I see kumbaya and let’s all do sit-ups.

    What gives?

    I have started seeing media and political figures who do not like Donald Trump at all speak out against the latest charge of thought crime.

    Many people even believe Trump did legitimately lose, but still speak out for his right to claim otherwise.

    This is measure of a man time.

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    • messianicdruid August 7, 2023 at 10:26 am #

      For some, it is easy to make an underdog of a billionaire

      • Beryl of Oyl August 7, 2023 at 10:29 am #

        I don’t know what you mean by that.

      • cowbell81 August 7, 2023 at 10:52 am #

        Are you saying that just because Trump was a billionaire that he did not have a right to be an underdog presidential contender? I would certainly argue that by having billions to his name he was not owned by anyone and did not need the government job to gin up a bunch of bribes. Trump did it for the greater good of American and its native inhabitants!

    • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 12:17 pm #

      And the opposite too – many of the Democrats know he was cheated and are fine with it.

      Their ruthlessness insures their triumph against us – unless and until we change. All is fair in love and war. In other words, Sir Arthur Keith’s Law of Amity and Enmity, one for you and yours, the other for the other.

    • abbybwood August 7, 2023 at 12:39 pm #

      Watch for the off-again and on-again debate between Max Blumenthal and Bobby Kennedy orchestrated by the pot head comedian Jimmy Dore.

      Maybe the whole Israeli-Palestinian quagmire Pandora’s Box will be opened after all! May even be talks of Israel’s nukes! Such a secret!

    • Uncle Bob August 7, 2023 at 7:26 pm #

      Remember, RFK 2 wanted Limbaugh and Beck executed for treason for not spreading his propaganda about the climate hoax. No joke. Really, it’s not a joke.

  6. Bill of Rights August 7, 2023 at 10:10 am #

    The CIA certainly has a plan B in place in place in case the Normies get too hot to handle. They will assassinate the leader of the opposition.

    • tresho August 7, 2023 at 10:26 am #

      “They will assassinate the leader of the opposition.” (1) the opposition may well turn out to be leaderless, in which case the Blob will have to kill everyone who isn’t an enthusiastic supporter (2) comments keep popping up on the internet pointing toward the Blob removing the current fearless leaders without showing their hand in it. The ancient Praetorian Guard removed multiple Roman Emperors in a similar fashion long, long ago.

      • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 11:29 am #

        Can you elaborate please?

  7. mitchellc August 7, 2023 at 10:14 am #

    That was a good essay by Gaius Baltar (interested readers can view his Substack).

    The core issue GB raised is the intentional debasement of education standards, the promotion of the unqualified, and the resulting loss of competent leadership in the West.

    Except for a brief nod to the WEF, he entirely ignored the pressing question of why? To what end, and for what purpose, were the worst advanced while the best suppressed?

    So, here we are once again at the foundational understanding of limits, regarding population overshoot, resource depletion and environmental degredation.

    Western elite, with its long history of enforced hierarchy, knew – long before JHK was writing about these challenges 15 years ago – what the end game entailed, and they were determined they would once again end up on top.

    It really is just that simple – the ability to rationally undestand physics and make certain moves to ensure they weren’t among the masses of losers and victims.

    The end result is what we see today – the wholesale deconstruction of Western civilizatation and its governing institutions. The reason is not a mystery, and it’s reversal is not something that can be restored with an election.

    It requires much, much more, which is in the process of being delivered, postage due, by the rest of the world’s allies.

    • Ron Anselmo August 7, 2023 at 10:43 am #

      “…it’s reversal is not something that can be restored with an election.” ~ mitchellc

      Thank you.

    • TPTB-USA August 7, 2023 at 10:44 am #

      ” To what end, and for what purpose, were the worst advanced while the best suppressed?” ~ mitchellc

      I’ll take a stab at it. It’s kind of like reparations. On the order of some two bit shyster like Newsom promoting a reparations proposal, using other peoples money, to clear his standing in life; but in this case, it has to do with the advantage the countries of the industrialized world had over the third world countries.

      It’s the thought that counts, and if nothing else, the world will benefit from the consequent population reduction.

      • DaveO907 August 7, 2023 at 11:19 am #

        The BRICS countries themselves initiating their own brand of self-pro-activism seem well on the way to achieving what ‘reparations’ they consider adequate. Patiently. And while watching the West melt down even as it lashes out in rage, albeit ineffectual.

        “Underneath the mask of the sulfur skies…

        A bunch of us were busy….. waiting.

        Watching the people looking ill-at-ease…..

        Watching the fraying rope getting closer to breaking….”

        ~ Bruce Cockburn “Flowing Over the Hills of Morning”

        (From the album Dancing in the Dragon’s Jaws-1979)

      • abbybwood August 7, 2023 at 12:45 pm #

        Or maybe it is something as simple as buying the Black vote?

        • Yirgach August 7, 2023 at 2:32 pm #

          They simply replaced the plantations and cotton fields with the inner city ghettos, drugs and gangs. Carefully tended and all watched over for profit and votes by machines of loving grace…

          With apologies to Richard Brautigan (Poet in Residence at JPL)

          All Watched Over By Machines Of Loving Grace

          I like to think (and
          the sooner the better!)
          of a cybernetic meadow
          where mammals and computers
          live together in mutually
          programming harmony
          like pure water
          touching clear sky.

          I like to think
          (right now, please!)
          of a cybernetic forest
          filled with pines and electronics
          where deer stroll peacefully
          past computers
          as if they were flowers
          with spinning blossoms.

          I like to think
          (it has to be!)
          of a cybernetic ecology
          where we are free of our labors
          and joined back to nature,
          returned to our mammal
          brothers and sisters,
          and all watched over
          by machines of loving grace.

        • TPTB-USA August 9, 2023 at 8:30 am #

          It seams that any issue that “Joe Biden” promotes has multiple objectives, and no matter if their endeavor is successful or not, it is structured in such fashion that they come away with some net benefit to the 2030 agenda.

    • Yirgach August 7, 2023 at 12:53 pm #

      Yes, just read that essay by Gais Baltar last night.
      The subtitle is “THE ROLE OF HUMAN CAPITAL AND WESTERN EDUCATION” and details the rise of idiots who control the West.

      Here’s a link to the substack
      gaiusbaltar.substack.com/p/why-is-the-west-so-weak-and-russia

      • DaveO907 August 7, 2023 at 4:16 pm #

        The Rockefellers and Henry Ford knew what they wanted. And how to get it.

    • Katerina August 7, 2023 at 10:17 pm #

      mitchells, thank you for stating the facts. My very final offering to this blog had to be “put in a nutshell”. Will not be many takers as most here are beyond the pale. Too long in the tooth and simply cannot learn any new information.Happy to parrot the hideous propaganda and insidious indoctrinations they have been brought up with. Specially with regard to Russia. Some probably still think it’s the ghastly “commie country”! FFS! This is what I am talking about.
      Here are the FACTS: you are being totally controlled and run, by a ZHIDOVSKY CABAL. Repeat these two words after me! And UNTIL you acknowlege and NAME your emeny, you will NEVER defeat it! Calling it a “Blob” does not do it. Ignoring the elephant in the room will bring you the final destruction and a complete elimination of your USA as a country. They, by the way, have NO allegience to ANY country except their belief in their Talmud. Does not matter if they have been born in any such country – good example is so-called Russian Revolution – carried out by this satanic CABAL, with Lenin being the bought and paid for another puppet, like Zelensky and the others. Stalin, on the other hand, was hell bent on getting rid of them – hence being absolutely demonized in this West, controlled by this Cabal. Just like President Putin. In Russia, Stalin is STILL a hero. And VVP, by the way, has close to 90% of approval rating! Just facts.
      Read that Talmud (can find the text on websites) – it will make your hair stand on end! And they are bringing it to the today’s reality. And you are living it! And still cannot name it! Scared shitless and paying for it! Dumb, ignorant, stupid. And you deserve it. No brains or fortitude to survive.. even as a nation. Exceptional garbage. See, one can put lots of different adjectives after the word “exceptional”. Isn’t that what you think of yourselves – “exceptional”? Oh boy!
      Please God – help us to get rid of them, together with their Masters and controllers.They are the absolute scourge and the virulent cancer on our beautiful planet. This is our only home and we have this odious, evil, parasitic entity infesting it…

  8. mrs_saj August 7, 2023 at 10:15 am #

    Love the “normies” reference, Jim. Another great post today only adds to your legacy of having fought the fight to warn people as to what is going on.

    The normies are capable of waking up, however at present, they do not wish to wake up. It will happen. There will be a day of reckoning, some event, whether great or small, that will tip the scales and allow reality to permeate their consciousness again. The death of a two-bit criminal deadbeat, named George Floyd, was one such tipping point. Who knows what this next one will be.

    • chopper August 7, 2023 at 10:29 am #

      This will end when even the most dedicated Dems are unable to voice support for the party without a response of uncontrolled laughter.

      • mrs_saj August 7, 2023 at 11:43 am #

        chopper,

        I’d like to picture that, it would be immensely fun to watch. But I think some sort of tragedy is more in store. Empty shelves or even store closures, 25% inflation, a stock market cut in half, bank closures, the death of a too-big-to-die celebrity say Taylor Swift, even a mis-placed tweet that struck a raw nerve. Anything.

        For an example of a mis-placed tweet, some twitch streamer (whatever the hell that is) tweeted he was giving away ONE LOUSY playstation console (retail value $399) at Union Square in Manhattan on Friday. Thousands of unruly “utes” showed up and violence ensued.

        Even small pebbles can make a big splash in our current completely frayed society.

        • mary.m August 7, 2023 at 4:04 pm #

          And the streamer us now being criminally charged with inciting a riot, holding an event without a permit, and more…

      • Uncle Bob August 7, 2023 at 8:15 pm #

        It’ll be a cold day in Hell before those people will have anything but blind allegiance to their beloved Party. After all it’s only through allegiance to the Party that they have anything.

    • abbybwood August 7, 2023 at 1:18 pm #

      An alien invasion which brings the plague and causes forced lockdowns and mandated jabs to every person on Earth like it or not?

  9. rudyspeaks August 7, 2023 at 10:15 am #

    I always enjoy JHK’s take on today’s USA. I’m always disappointed by the shallowness of the comments. So, American children, listen…Santa Claus never brought you a present, the Easter Bunny never gave you an egg and Donald Trump never improved one effing thing in your life. Now, ISIS, that head-chopping murder cult…THEY benefited from Trump’s murdering Soleimani, the Iranian general who nearly destroyed them. The “Blob” benefited when DT had Assange evicted from the Ecuadorean embassy. And, of course, the .01%ers benefited (sure, they own both pseudo-parties) when DT did a 180 reversal of campaign promises and dropped their tax rate. A “Biden v. Trump” election signals the end of American no matter who “wins”. (PS: It ain’t you!)

    • JackStraw August 7, 2023 at 10:19 am #

      American children, listen.

      And then he goes off on an unhinged, illogical rant.

      Maybe Rudy shouldn’t speak.

      • rudyspeaks August 7, 2023 at 10:31 am #

        Thanks for the detailed refutation of my post… or, perhaps, the validation of it. An empty insult, nothing more. Next time (just a suggestion) you might include one damned improvement he actually accomplished! (It’s the point of discussions!) Y’know, maybe that “beautiful” health care plan he promised but never even presented to us! Or his deficit reduction plan (which was the empty claim that he’d be “raising [his] own taxes!) but, alas, was the opposite. Or his great appointees, (psychpathic) John Bolton, CIA whore Pompeo! So, Jackie-boy, observe that when “Rudy Speaks”, at least there’s some info being conveyed! And, if you take exception to it…respond with something, anything more substantial than your hurt butt.

        • benr August 7, 2023 at 10:38 am #

          Naw Jarek was 100% correct your rant is nothing but a rant.
          Under Trump the Job market was booming.
          At one point I had over 300 jobs a day on my crawler.
          It barely goes over a dozen a week now.
          We were not in a proxy war with both Russia and China.
          My 401k trajectory was always up and not full of peaks and valleys.
          Under Trump I did not see illegal aliens everywhere selling hot dogs, ice cream and trinkets everywhere and they were not getting into massive brawls over competing sales.
          There were not an estimated 85,000 minors missing in the system being exploited and used.
          Rudy your puerile attacks are pathetic at best and 100% one sided.
          You have a right to your wrong opinion but not your own facts.

          • benr August 7, 2023 at 10:47 am #

            How did I read Jarek when it was jack?
            The dyslexia is kicking in strong today.

          • kendar667 August 7, 2023 at 10:56 am #

            Perhaps some of Trump’s greatest achievements are in what he didn’t do, as you say. Not getting us in a war is a great accomplishment, maybe one of the only presidents ever to pull that off. As far as what has Trump done to make my life better, nothing immediately tangible, but what he did do, and continues to do, is expose the Blob and shine a spotlight on the Fake News. This exposure and the subsequent awakening it causes will wind up being his legacy – not totally unlike our host. Before Trump, most people were unaware there was such a thing as fake news or even a deep state Blob. Oh, Rush (and others) had names for it like “driveby media” or “state run media” but it didn’t seem to stick with most folks – the enormity of the problem and how it permeates everything. Trump has a way of showing people what the problem is in a way they can grasp and incorporate into their world view. The value of this cannot be overstated, essentially waking people the hell up!

          • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 12:22 pm #

            Soleimani had one of the noblest faces I have ever seen. Compare him to Christopher Wray and shudder.

            benr: How many surfers get punchy from getting hit in the head by their board?

          • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 1:08 pm #

            Soleimani did, indeed, have a noble face. He also had a great sense of humor AND incredible bravery.

            I don’t know how many people remember that it was Soleimani who led the rescue mission to save the Russian pilot from the Turks who shot him down.
            That was an incredible feat of bravery and heroism.

            Killing him while he was on a diplomatic mission was a cowardly and despicable thing to do.
            I don’t know who ordered the hit, but it is unforgiveable. Trump took the blame and that is to his shame, whether he did it or not.

            Personally, I blame Bolton, and I hope the Iranians get him for it.

          • RD3 August 7, 2023 at 2:17 pm #

            Physiognomy is real

          • elysianfield August 7, 2023 at 3:15 pm #

            benr,
            …And sometimes a cigar is simply a cigar….

          • Q. Shtik August 7, 2023 at 5:58 pm #

            Personally, I blame Bolton, and I hope the Iranians get him for it. – Paula

            ===========

            I have a cousin, BK, who was a roommate (they called them suite mates) of Bolton’s for something like 7 years (undergrad, grad, doctorate) at Yale. They tend to house the super smart people together. From day one Bolton was a known right-winger at Yale while I would definitely consider Cuz BK a liberal. BK considers Bolton a nice guy and a good friend. He says Bolton was among the first to offer condolences when BK’s wife died about 10 years ago.

            I have no idea if Bolton had anything to do with the Soleimani assassination.

          • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 7:25 pm #

            Well, Q, Bolton threatened the children of a diplomat who wasn’t going along with his program.
            He told him “We know where your children go to school.”

            That’s on top of the pile of bodies Bolton has gleefully ordered murdered.

            Doesn’t seem like a nice guy to me. But there is no accounting for taste.

          • Uncle Bob August 7, 2023 at 8:26 pm #

            Kendar: Thank you for the proper use of the word “enormity.” Too many people use is as a synonym for “big.”

            Rudy, I’m too tired and frankly lazy to reply to your puerile post. Suffice to say, you probably worship the ground on which Schwab, Soros, Biden and The One swagger, and like your heroes you cannot stand the thought that the peasants believe they have real rights.

          • Uncle Bob August 7, 2023 at 8:30 pm #

            Paula, does this mean it’s okay for everyone to wish death upon one’s political opponents, or is that still limited to only the Left? Asking for a friend.

          • DaveO907 August 8, 2023 at 11:26 am #

            @Q Shtik—your using the (attributed to Stalin) argument “A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic” is disturbing.
            Bolton is a maniac, even if he’s your cousin’s friend and shows the occasional qualities we associate with our fellow empaths.
            Versus the damage he’s done to humanity with his megalomania, it’s no contest.

          • Jarek August 8, 2023 at 12:02 pm #

            Psychopaths (an estimated 5% of the population) have no morality whatsoever. In contrast, people like Bolton have a morality – it’s just not the universal morality that we subscribe to. They are good to their own. Maybe with some it stops with their family or friends. Others their tribe or nation. With some, their Class may be their Tribe. That might explain Mr Barr and his wonderful face. His goodness is real – it’s just not for such as us.

            This is not news. Mafia morality. Hell’s Angels. Most of the peoples of the world. Modern Westerners are constantly and massively projecting themselves onto other people. If we would just stop and listen for a change. Observe. We would see that things are much different than we imagined.

          • Beryl of Oyl August 8, 2023 at 3:36 pm #

            Say Jarek, here is somebody bringing up something we have talked about here before, what makes William Barr tick.

            Yes, physiognomy is real, but in Barr’s case, there’s some kind of confusion going on, maybe he’s conflicted, or maybe he just really sees himself as the good guy.

            There are some interesting comments too.

            “Personally I don’t care about Barr’s psychological analysis of other people. I want him to analyze himelf and figure out why he is so pathologically deceitful that he hid the Biden laptop or why was he so pathologically trusting that he got bamboozled by the people who did?”

            https://twitter.com/master_skeptic/status/1688612251303845889?s=20

          • benr August 8, 2023 at 6:21 pm #

            How many surfers get punchy from getting hit in the head by their board? -Jarek

            In over forty years of surfing I have only been hit in the head twice and both times were surfing Drainpipes at Zuma beach on a decent sized hurricane swell but several years apart.

            Both times needed stitches and I just ignored it.

            Most injuries happen because the other guy is not paying attention or is less skilled. The only good thing about the wavestorm is soft tops hurt far less when some clown lets go of their board when they should be holding on to it.

            Zuma Beach Surf Guide
            This three-mile long beach is a popular summer spot for the Valley kids. Plainly marked restrooms, picnics, snack bar, blackball flags…bring the whole barn. The area serves up a punchy shorepound, with mostly lefts during summer. Great place for bodyboarding, but gets heavy with size and is absolutely nuts over 10 feet. Your best chance is to catch it on a crossed-up swell, stronger from the south, with Santa Ana winds. A great family beach, except for that big gang brawl back in 1992.

            At the very southern end of Zuma is a stretch called Westward or Drainpipes, one of the heaviest beachbreaks in Southern California. How heavy? This is where one of California’s most promising amateurs, Jesse Billauer, hit the sandbar wrong and is now paralyzed from the waist down. (Today, he helps fellow spinal cord victims with his foundation, Life Rolls On). The wave is no joke, and it’s always thicker, hollower and bigger than it looks. Big summer south swells wrap around the point, grinding out bathing suit-stripping lefts. Follow Westward Beach Road as it snakes a mile-and-a-half out to a dramatic rock cliff at the north side of Point Dume. Voted most likely to blow out.

            surfline.com/surf-report/zuma-beach/5afb6566bb6fd9001a250fbb

          • Jarek August 8, 2023 at 10:12 pm #

            Beryl: You think morality is universal (everyone loved as yourself as the ideal at least) or completely false or non-existent? Most of the world would disagree with that impossible standard.

            Different people are treated different ways. You own nothing to strangers.

            Christians ask Jews in Israel about the Palestinians. “They’re not our neighbors”. There’s are more to it than physical proximity.

          • Jarek August 9, 2023 at 12:35 pm #

            Jon Krakauer had a great essay, Mark Foo’s Last Ride, about an eccentric, publicity hound, Chinese American, surfer named Mark Foo who died surfing the Mavericks, just south of San Francisco, which has some of the biggest waves in the world on occasion.

            Despite his eccentricities, he was much loved. Though not the most gifted, he was a fearless surfer.

          • Jarek August 10, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

            Bery, good job ignoring the principle I put forth, focusing on the example, Mr Barr, and then repeating the truism (is it?) that there is something wrong with him.

            Mafia men are often great family men. There not all bad – just bad to people outside their circle of concern, which is nearly everyone.

        • Frankenstein Government August 7, 2023 at 10:39 am #

          I just did all that before this retort posted.

          Jack has it right. Insulting your audience has never been a good look.

          • JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 11:12 am #

            Good discussion.

            Do not forget the one thing he did do.

            He changed the direction of the Tax code in the US, decreasing rates in all categories, like Reagan and JFK before him.

            Contrary to Liberal bullshit, everyone benefitted from the declines.

            Why does the American public buy the BS that the corporations, the 1% are the only folks benefitting?

            Corporations supply the consumer demand, you tax them more, YOU pay the price as they just pass onto us the increased expenditure.

          • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 1:09 pm #

            43 years of Reaganomics and John is still convinced that the wealth will trickle down, any time now.

            Tell the homeless that story.

          • Uncle Bob August 7, 2023 at 8:58 pm #

            Paula clearly still hasn’t grasped basic economics.

            Look. If the Son of God said there will always be poor people among us, then there will always be poor people among us. (He did, so there will be, like it or not.) Maybe it’s because they’re addicts, or lazy, or have the wrong skills, or buy into the bullshit that applying themselves makes them “like Whitey,” or their parents are drunks who never taught them life skills, or maybe they just like the idea of sitting on their asses streaming videos while the state steals the earnings of productive people and hands it to the gamers, streamers, and drug addicts. That theft of income, along with property, sales, telecommunications, business, and other taxes, diverts money from the working public into government coffers, which politicians use to indenture the people. If you’re fine with the government dictating to you what you can do, including where you can spend your money, in the name if “fairness” or “economic justice” or “equity” or whatever bullshit buzzword they’re using today then you’re doing exactly what the Blob and its leaders want, at the expense of everyone else. Thanks.

          • Paula D August 8, 2023 at 6:56 pm #

            You call it ”basic economics, I call it ”voodoo economics”.

            It is obvious that you cannot have general prosperity in a society unless the general public is prosperous.

            No small businesses can stay alive if only one person in town has money, so there goes your pipedreams of small businesses prospering.
            No restaurants, no movie theaters, no hardware stores, can stay alive if no one has money.

            What we have seen since 1980 is the hollowing out of mainstreet USA, as the money was siphoned to Wall Street and other cesspool collection points of wealth in this country.

            The resto f America has boarded-up storefronts, empty downtowns, homeless people sleeping in the doorways and you quote Jesus at me?

            Anyone who has ever played Monopoly knows what happens at the end, one player ends up with everything and the rest lose.

            But Bob and John only complain about those damn gimmees passing Go and collecting $200!!
            How dare they! That money belongs to the rich!

            Jesus said so.

        • Night Owl August 7, 2023 at 11:04 am #

          Rudy has not conveyed much except for shallow claims for which he has no hard evidence on either what happened or why it happened.

          Those claims also happen to align with those of the usual CFN court jesters who get emotional any time the Orange Man is in the news again.

          • mrs_saj August 7, 2023 at 11:59 am #

            Night Owl,

            I don’t understand why people show up here to insult our host or the commenters who share his concerns.

            There are an endless number of other blogs out there that espouse other views. Why don’t these folks go to one of those?

            Even if you and I found something we disagreed on (and I’m sure we could), we both know Covid and the vaxxines are not what the government told us they were. We both know society is fraying at the margins. We both know gaslighting is the new global pastime perpetuated by governments and media everywhere. We both know Ukraine is an engineered distraction. And we both know wide swaths of the population are oblivious to all of it.

            I’d rather focus on what we commenters have in common and ignore the distractions of those that comment here to cause trouble.

            That’s just my rant for the day and this seemed as good a place as any to post it. Carry on Night Owl!

          • Night Owl August 7, 2023 at 3:09 pm #

            Yes Mrs. Saj, it is strange behavior.

            I tend to engage people in the same manner they initially engage me; this usually results in the clowns eventually folding up shop or only returning for the occasional drive-by puking.

            This is otherwise a great comment section.

      • cbeard August 7, 2023 at 11:38 am #

        What did he say that wasn’t true? His American children bullshit statement is beside the point. Trump is not our saviour. You can’t vote your way out of what is coming.

        • JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 11:48 am #

          Well, what about the alternative.

          Does anybody really believe that a lame duck Biden is better than Trump?

          Yep, all the Democrat lemmings.

          • rudyspeaks August 7, 2023 at 1:06 pm #

            The damned point is that neither Trump nor the Blue-zombie Dems are ANY solution at all… let alone some sort of actual “alternative”. My BZD friends say the same thing when I point out the Democratic (it’s not “Biden”, FGS, he’s a hood ornament!) crime wave. The twits singing the “trickle down” song (we must not tax corporations, our prices will go up!) “He changed the direction of the Tax code in the US, decreasing rates in all categories, like Reagan and JFK before him.” Look at a f–king chart of US government debt, less’n a trillion when Reagan took office, headed for the stratosphere ever since! Wow! I sure “benefited” from the resulting bloated interest rates! I like having Interest payments rivaling the Pentagon budget (itself, undisguised theft). ‘Course, someone will now say “Dems never reversed any of Reagan’s idiot policies”, which is #1) True and #2) Consistent with my observation that it’s Uniparty Rule, both ends are corrupt. PS: Trump DOES deserve credit for staying out of war & Between him & the Dem Party, I’ll probably vote DT…but the childish notion that he’s some sort of solution to America’s decline reminds me of children in an alcoholic family… desperately believing, without evidence, that SOMEONE has to care about them. PPS: Kudos to JohnAZ and Kendar for responding with actual arguments! We may not agree, but, with facts & logic, we can engage.

          • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 1:20 pm #

            Hey! I responded with actual arguments.

            Do you only notice the men?

          • Why_weren't_we_asked_about_Degrowth August 7, 2023 at 6:01 pm #

            No Trump and Biden are the distractions we can hate on. All decisions and the direction of the narrative are made by people we don’t get to elect.

          • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 7:26 pm #

            Well, that is certainly true, degrowth.

        • Ron Anselmo August 7, 2023 at 2:50 pm #

          “You can’t vote your way out of what is coming.” ~ cbeard

          Thank you.

    • cowbell81 August 7, 2023 at 10:23 am #

      Giuliani, is that you? Are you sweating it out there under the lights? How about holding another presser at the “Four Seasons”?

      • Miss Demeanor August 7, 2023 at 3:22 pm #

        One must understand that the Four Seasons Landscape was across the street from the crematorium where all of Trumps’s votes were burnt the night before so no one could recall and count them. Team Trump sent a message to the machine that we know what happened and we have video.

        • Ron Anselmo August 7, 2023 at 4:37 pm #

          Any sources or links? Appreciated, if so.

    • Frankenstein Government August 7, 2023 at 10:35 am #

      Yes, I hated the 1.65 diesel, the smooth economy with no inflation, the border enforced and no wars…but even then I thought…

      I need perspective. I need 5.00 diesel, a crappy economy with high interest rates and inflation, a completely open border where 4400 young Chinese men have crossed and created a bio lab in central California to unleash God knows what after their covid catastrophe. I need a war where we can waste another quarter trillion and lose.

      There will be winners and losers. Even the Lightbringer who is running the show will tell you elections have consequences.

      There is nothing worse than a smug commenter.

    • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 11:39 am #

      Trump reversed the TPP on his first day in office. How did that improve my life?
      It stopped the corporate takeover of the world, which started with the WTO.
      Workers fought the ensuing tries in Seattle and Cancun, but the rulers of the world never stop trying.
      The TPP was their next attempt, foiled by Trump. The WEF is their next one.
      They don’t stop trying.

      Another major benefit of Trump was the roll-back of the mandate. I quit paying my health insurance in 2005, because it was taking such a major chunk of my income. Far more than the taxes combined, as a matter of fact.
      Then comes Obama and his forced insurance company tithing, using the power of the federal government and the IRS, to force people who can’t afford health insurance to pay a fine.
      A fine for being poor! And you complain about Trump?

      The last thing Trump did that helped the girls and women of America was to stop the Dems push to allow boys and men into girls’ locker rooms, showers, sports and prison cells.
      Biden reversed that on his first day.

      The lack of war with Russia was another benefit, also reversed by Biden.
      Obama spent the last two years of his reign provoking the hell out of Russia.
      Trump was forced to sound belligerent to Russia by the Blob, but he refused to get into an actual war.

      • stelmosfire August 7, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

        I gotta kick out of Trump shaking the “Little Rocket Man’s” hand and actually walking across the border into North Korea. I don’t think Kim was shooting missiles around while Trump was the boss.

        • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 12:28 pm #

          Don’t forget about Dennis Rodman. Only these great men could influence the little rocket man.

        • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 1:04 pm #

          Yeah, that was funny, saint. The Blob went nuts with that one, also.

          Did you see the reception the DPRK gave to Shoigu? Pretty impressive. I only watched the beginning, but I am a sucker for marching bands, so I was impressed.

          Simplicius the Thinker had a video embedded on one of his posts.

        • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 1:26 pm #

          Yeah, they started up again right after Biden assumed office.

          • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 1:26 pm #

            I think that says something.

        • Night Owl August 7, 2023 at 3:12 pm #

          Trump was one of the greatest US presidents in modern history on foreign policy–perhaps in history, in fact.

          • elysianfield August 7, 2023 at 3:17 pm #

            Owl,
            Greatest? Probably not.

            Foreign policy? Trump did OK, but he was no Richard Nixon.

          • Night Owl August 7, 2023 at 3:57 pm #

            He brought North Korea to the table, as well as the Arabs and Jews.

            These are incredible accomplishments, alone, but he also did well on rooting out globocap corruption in Ukraine, as well as thumbing his nose at WEF.

            Not all was rosy (his undying support for Israel and the murderous Netan.), but I can’t think of another president with a greater string of key accomplishments in foreign policy.

            He also did all of this while surrounded in DC and under endless attack by the fake press.

      • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 12:27 pm #

        What do you think of Russia’s supporting the Revolution in Niger? Did you know about Russia influence there?

        Will China take Southern Africa and Russia the North?

        Wagner has been invited it. This is exciting! There are wheels within wheels here, Paula. Maybe this is why Prig wasn’t dealt with – he still had a job that only he could do.

        • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 1:21 pm #

          I don’t think Russia has supported the coup. If you know otherwise, provide evidence, please.

          • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 1:26 pm #

            Keeping your cards close to your chest, eh? Why you little (I can’t think of anything).

            I will remind you of this post once the hijinks commence.

      • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 12:39 pm #

        Yes, but Obama was black, and Trump is white.

        • Night Owl August 7, 2023 at 3:13 pm #

          Obama was half white.

          I will never understand why this does not count to some people.

          • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 4:39 pm #

            Ok, half white.

          • Dr. Zonk August 7, 2023 at 4:51 pm #

            Half white? Is that a thing? Is that like being “half pregnant”?

            White is binary – someone is either white or they are not, imho.

          • Night Owl August 7, 2023 at 5:48 pm #

            Is this a serious question?

      • Beryl of Oyl August 7, 2023 at 12:45 pm #

        I was going to get a dishwasher that worked.

        If anyone wants a list of the best Trump accomplishments, just look at everything they had Biden undoing in his first few days.

        • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 1:27 pm #

          Yeah, didn’t he sign something like 100 executive orders or something reversing everything Trump? Shutting down the pipeline being the first one.

          • Beryl of Oyl August 7, 2023 at 1:37 pm #

            Yes. Everything they set in front of him.

          • Night Owl August 7, 2023 at 3:15 pm #

            He did this because Trump is really secret WEF agent, you see.

            You must black pill yourself and learn that every politician is against us. None could be of assistance in pushing back against the globocap coup.

            No siree.

        • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 2:05 pm #

          Better buy one now, pre-Bidenomics models.

          • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 2:06 pm #

            That would apply to any other major appliance you were thinking of replacing. While the pre-decree models are still available.

      • rudyspeaks August 7, 2023 at 1:14 pm #

        Paula D…Thanks for mentioning TTP. You are correct. As I said in other posts, this isn’t an anti-Trump vendetta and that horrid trade agreement’s death WAS a real step forward. I’m afraid people pigeon-hole any non-MAGA comment as pro-Democratic Party (which is 1/2 of the US crime syndicate). The asinine comments on fuel prices (like the prez affects them) and ignoring the consistent downward financial situation for the 90% is beneath comment. The 90% get less every year and I’ve seen no one do anything to address tyhat.

        • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 1:22 pm #

          Oh. Sorry for my remark earlier, I didn’t see that you noticed my post.

          Yeah, the uniparty is united in screwing us and waging war on the world, I agree.

        • Night Owl August 7, 2023 at 3:16 pm #

          Your comment was classic midwit.

          I am still trying to figure out what substance there was for one to engage.

        • benr August 7, 2023 at 6:08 pm #

          The President sure as hell influences oil prices!
          When the outlaw exploration, shut down pipelines and generally screw everything up then tell theoil companies they have declared war on them!

          • mrs_saj August 7, 2023 at 9:04 pm #

            And the President nominates the administrator of the EPA, which can make petroleum products more or less expensive through various regulations.

    • Rowdypiglet August 7, 2023 at 11:55 am #

      I’ve made this comment before, but I ordinarily get no response from those who have the fixed belief that Trump did nothing good. For all his many flaws, and we all know what they were, he did in fact do something very good for quite a few people. I was one of those, so I can attest to it.

      He removed the penalty for not buying health insurance, which was about to wipe out my husband and myself at a time when we could not possibly recover. Almost as miraculous as the reprieve, which saved us from the possibility of actually becoming homeless, was the means by which it was enacted. When we did our taxes for the year in question, the only requirement for exemption from the penalty was to check “yes” after the statement “Would it constitute a hardship for you to pay this?” We checked “yes” and that was the end of it.

      Having spent the prior six months dealing with Social Security, which required the submission of a vast amount of documentation that we possessed only because I’m a compulsive saver, it felt like a genuine miracle not to be required to submit 1000 pages of documentation in order to be spared. I’ll never forget it as long as I live. We’re far from the only ones who were saved from catastrophe by this single thing.

      In retrospect, did we not also benefit from quite a few things that were actively prevented from happening, such as the disastrous proxy war in Ukraine?

      A little fairness goes a long way. I fail to understand the mind set that won’t acknowledge any good action taken by someone they dislike. It doesn’t convince any thoughtful person and simply makes one appear more than a bit deranged.

      • mrs_saj August 7, 2023 at 12:08 pm #

        Rowdy,

        Great story and I’m delighted to learn that you and your husband got out of quite the pickle.

        I agree with you about giving credit where credit is due. People I don’t particularly like can do good things. And people I think quite well of can make mistakes or even have major faults.

        Speaking of which, Musk is at it again. Let’s see if he puts his money where his mouth is.

        httpx://www.euronews.com/next/2023/08/07/elon-musk-offers-to-pay-legal-bills-for-people-unfairly-treated-by-employers-over-twitter-

        • Rowdypiglet August 7, 2023 at 2:36 pm #

          I find this attitude common, mrs_saj. I think it’s vindictive and self-defeating. It seems always to be about what was left undone rather than what was done. We’re all subject to the constraints of circumstances and our own natures. In retrospect, Trump appears to have been surrounded by enemies whom he mistakenly trusted, but who were servants of The Blob. Without the ability to assess what he was up against, I’m unwilling to judge him on those things left undone since such a judgment can’t be based on anything but speculation.

          As for Mr. Musk, he’s at last hit upon a worthwhile use for all that money. I’d love to see even a few of these cases play out in court, with the deep pockets – for once – on our side.

          • mrs_saj August 7, 2023 at 3:24 pm #

            Rowdy,

            Agreed. And I think people conveniently dismiss or underestimate the impact that the media (acting in cooperation with one another) have when 95% of new outlets are all singing the same anti-trump song. O’bama was positively fawned over by the media. Trump was ridiculed and criticized at every turn. Not to mention the fact that supporting information for Trump’s positions and actions was censored from facebook, Dorsey run Twitter, google, instagram, etc. etc. The cumulative effect of all this cannot be overstates. Not only does it change people’s beliefs and opinions; it changes what they view as the facts.

          • Night Owl August 8, 2023 at 4:41 pm #

            Trump got far more than ridicule and criticism.

            The McMedia made up stories wholecloth and edited video footage, even going so far as to adjust the contrast to make him appear orange.

            What they did was so shameless that it was actually a positive thing, in that it woke up people around the world to just what a sham the system has become.

            And now we have the Great Awakening.

          • WilliamShatnersPants August 8, 2023 at 10:03 pm #

            Hey Night Owl

            “The McMedia made up stories wholecloth and edited video footage, even going so far as to adjust the contrast to make him appear orange.”

            Can you point us at some specific examples still, or have they all gone down the memory hole?

          • Night Owl August 9, 2023 at 8:41 am #

            Here’s the classic “fish feeding” horseshit I mentioned.

            Notice the headline is unchanged, but at the bottom of the page, they casually mention the article was amended to reflect the fact that they lied the first time.

            It was only amended because the unedited footage leaked a few days after the Fake Nooz put out the edited clip.

            https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/06/trump-dump-president-throws-entire-box-of-fish-food-into-precious-koi-carp-pond?CMP=twt_gu

            Then of course there was “Trump said to drink bleach,” the endless string of lies from “people familiar with the President’s thinking,” etc.

            I can’t be bothered to look at how many stories were changed.

            My favorite, however, was watching Merriam Webster amend the online versions of its dictionary to change words in real time as Trump was attacked on any number of phony charges.

      • rudyspeaks August 7, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

        Your post crystalizes my point. You got rid of the ACA’s (I love the “affordable” part!) overpriced insurance (me, too). However, only Americans would see this as a victory. Other nations have (far better) health care at half our cost. That’s my point: Trump greatest “triumphs” are evading Uniparty rip-offs, not resolving the situation that caused them. Until a 3rd party is in power you’ll bleed for college, health care, the Pentagon… every hustle the .01%ers have set up to sap our (little remaining) money

        • Rowdypiglet August 7, 2023 at 1:45 pm #

          To clarify, my husband was let go from his employment after a major stroke made it impossible for him to do his job. So we didn’t “get rid of” the expensive and useless insurance. We couldn’t buy it on our own, having no source of income while waiting for Social Security to decide on his disability application. It’s one thing to elect to forego the insurance and pay the penalty; it’s another to be put in a position, as many people are, of being fined at the point in life at which you’re most unable to afford it or to fight back.

          I don’t see that my post crystalizes your point, which was that Trump did nothing good for anyone. I made it clear that he did do something very good for us and quite a few others – after which you’ve changed the rules and now insist that doing something good isn’t good enough and doesn’t matter unless he was able to dismantle the entire system. It seems to me that you simply can’t acknowledge any good done by someone you dislike.

          • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 3:08 pm #

            I feel that you are dividing people into more categories, Rowdy, the deserving and undeserving among those unable to afford insurance.

            If you work and pay bills, and you are unable to afford a large insurance bill, you are every bit as deserving of a break as those who can’t work and can’t afford a large insurance bill. Why should someone who can’t afford a bill have to pay a federal penalty? That ain’t right.

            I agree with Rudy that the whole damn system should be non-profit, not just the insurance.

            The hospitals, the clinics, the drug companies, the medical appliance companies….the whole damn thing should be nationalized and non-profit. And just drop the insurance companies completely. They are just there as gatekeepers and profit skimmers.

          • Rowdypiglet August 8, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

            Paula, it wasn’t my intention to divide people along lines of deserving and undeserving, just to state what our own circumstances were at the time.

            I’ll just say that forcing people to buy into an expensive, abusive, predatory system, and punishing them if they can’t afford to do so, is a grotesque misuse of power. It has to be disassembled but I don’t have the knowledge or wisdom to know what should replace it. It would certainly have to be something that in no way resembles what we have at present, so that’s where I’d begin.

        • WilliamShatnersPants August 7, 2023 at 8:06 pm #

          “I agree with Rudy that the whole damn system should be non-profit, not just the insurance.

          The hospitals, the clinics, the drug companies, the medical appliance companies….the whole damn thing should be nationalized and non-profit. And just drop the insurance companies completely. They are just there as gatekeepers and profit skimmers.

          Hmm. Scratch a CFNer hard enough and in the right place, you find you have a democratic socialist. Go figure…

          • Mac August 8, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

            Medical care would be dirt cheap and better if it were a completely free market. How about this Amendment: “Congress shall make no laws, nor enact any programs, that affect or impair the practice of medicine.”

          • Paula D August 8, 2023 at 1:21 pm #

            Most people around the world don’t think that there should be billions of dollars of profits made from sick and injured people.

            It is only in the US that some people have been convinced that it is right and just for medical corporations and drug companies to hold sick people hostage for their money.

            It’s not just a left wing thing. I had two very right wing people, a doctor and a nurse, tell me spontaneously that they were disgusted by the high prices their patients were being charged by the hospital corporation, and that the whole thing should be nationalized.
            That way hospital employees would also have the security of health care without tithing the insurance companies or selling their house to pay for cancer treatment.

            My friend didn’t retire when her husband did because she wanted to keep her health care insurance in case she got sick
            Well, she did get sick. She got lung cancer. The treatment knocked her on her butt and she was unable to work the 12 hour shifts demanded of her.
            So they fired her and she lost her insurance anyway.
            I still have the T-shirt I bought at her fund raiser, but she is now dead.

            Only Americans (a minority of them, that is), think that that is a fine way to run a health care system.

          • WilliamShatnersPants August 8, 2023 at 8:51 pm #

            @ Paula D

            Absolutely agree with full-on socialized medical care, just as so many other Western Civ counties have. With that universal coverage in place, an individual is not beholden to the employer (who is probably a heartless corporation viz. your friend) and anyone can transition to a new job without “losing” their healthcare coverage.

          • WilliamShatnersPants August 8, 2023 at 8:53 pm #

            (countries)

          • Night Owl August 9, 2023 at 8:44 am #

            WSP, the best solution is one in which private and socialized care is available.

            The socialized care in many countries is not particularly high quality, and you have to put up with a lot of red tape and uncomforatable realities.

            That said, private care is very expensive as you age. Here in Germany, private is cheaper when you are young, but goes up dramatically after age 50.

      • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 1:24 pm #

        There were probably millions of people in the same boat, Rowdy.

        They are all disappeared in most commentary.

        Damn Deplorables!

        • Rowdypiglet August 8, 2023 at 12:17 pm #

          Yes, Paula, I’ve met quite a few people in the same circumstances, and much worse ones. The healthcare system has bled them dry but persists in trying to punish the dry husks of what used to be functional human beings.

      • Hereward the Woke August 7, 2023 at 4:26 pm #

        Rowdy: And we haven’t even mentioned The Don’s greatest achievement of all: keeping one of the nastiest, most psychopathic and ugly individuals of the last 50 years out of the Oval Office.

  10. Beryl of Oyl August 7, 2023 at 10:19 am #

    One of those epiphanies you have in the wee small hours of the morning-

    I have been musing over the question again, of whether Barack Obama is merely someone else’s puppet or pulling his own strings, since I saw the Tablet article on Dave Garrow’s book (https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/david-garrow-interview-obama) the other day.

    Something I remembered, the manufactured controversy over a New Yorker cover:

    New Yorker’s ‘terrorist’ Obama cover under fire
    Is the liberal magazine’s latest cover depicting Barack Obama as a Bin Laden sympathiser incendiary or have people just not got the joke?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/deadlineusa/2008/jul/14/newyorkercover

    How did I miss this? They made that cover to ‘get out in front of’ the story that Barack and Michele were radical subversives who hate America (which they are) by mocking the people who thought that.

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    • cowbell81 August 7, 2023 at 10:29 am #

      Barack is a puppet alright, and like any puppet he loves a good fisting.

      • JackStraw August 7, 2023 at 12:56 pm #

        Jesus, I just about choked to death on my lunch reading that. 🙂

      • malthuss August 7, 2023 at 1:37 pm #

        From Bodylove Reggie or from the chef?

      • Night Owl August 7, 2023 at 3:20 pm #

        Very disturbing.

        Michael has strong arms.

      • MaryQueen August 7, 2023 at 7:40 pm #

        OK that literally made me laugh out loud!

    • JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 11:02 am #

      If so Beryl, they are just members of the liberal Democratic Party.

      Hate for America is a core dogma for the DNC.

    • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 12:32 pm #

      He’s a King under an Emperor, the putative World Controller, whoever that might be. Or perhaps a council of bankers.

      As such he has some autonomy – but he has to work for their Agenda before his own. Or make his own part of theirs. Putting Blacks above us works fine as part of tearing down the United Stes.

    • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 2:08 pm #

      They were the fake first family, right down to their kids. And they grifted the country to the tune of millions and laughed at the rubes all the way to the bank. Or their Martha’s Vineyard mansion.

  11. tom clark August 7, 2023 at 10:21 am #

    Guess I’m a Normie. Save me a place at the end of the bar, and “Cheers”

    • Beryl of Oyl August 7, 2023 at 10:27 am #

      That would be a Gnawmie.

      • stoneyhonestman August 7, 2023 at 11:16 am #

        Good one, Beryl. Wicked pissah funny.

    • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 12:34 pm #

      Yes, you are a non-muscular, white collar Muggle.

  12. BackRowHeckler August 7, 2023 at 10:24 am #

    Above all its hard to get any real news out of the Eastern Front. How is the Spring Counteroffensive going? We don’t really know. More video exists on the internets of the battle of the Somme in 1916 than exists of the current fighting in Southern Ukraine. One trick the western media is using … they’ll show video of a purported Russian tank being taken out by a Ukrainian drone and present it as a great strategic victory, like Stalingrad, and evidence that Russia is on the run and getting crushed. And all these paid retired US Army Generals show up on CNN lying thru the teeth and obfuscating the issue even more.

    US & EU big media is totally useless, nothing more than shills for the globalist elite ruling over the West.

    • tresho August 7, 2023 at 10:30 am #

      “all these paid retired US Army Generals show up on CNN lying thru the teeth” exactly corresponds to the
      “51” “intelligence experts” who went on the record saying that Hunter Biden’s abandoned laptop was pure Russian disinformation. Both were full of BS. That laptop info is out there somewhere even if the DOJ later declares the mere possession of a laptop copy is de jure evidence of felony child porn possession.

      • DaveO907 August 7, 2023 at 4:40 pm #

        That just reminded me of Chris Cuomo telling people “It is against the law to look at…” something or another about Covid on the internet that went against the ‘official’ doctrine-narrative at the time.

        The chutzpah! That they of the political-media class feel thusly empowered. It was bad enough hearing about it via a clip, as is it’s people like Cuomo and ilk who back in the day had me throwing my TV away.

    • JackStraw August 7, 2023 at 10:47 am #

      Follow TheRealTruth62 on TikTok. He puts out multiple daily reports on the war that have proven to be quite accurate.

      Also, follow Intel Slava Z on Telegram. It’s Russian news, but there are loads of videos and links to info from their perspective.

    • JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 11:00 am #

      Not just CNN!

      Here is the rub. If there were significant gains at the front, it would be splayed all over US and European media.

      It isn’t!

      Russia at the very least has taken Donbas almost to Odessa, sealing off the attack route for NATO.

      Against Western weaponry. Billions and billions of dollars worth.

      End result? How about elimination of most of Ukraine’s male population?

      • Mac August 8, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

        Check out moonofalabama website for good info on the war.

      • ThorsHammer August 9, 2023 at 1:34 pm #

        @JohnAZ

        Elimination of most of Ukraine’s male population? That just means that the 20 million Ukrainian women who have disbursed throughout the rest of the world will find new mates and contribute their exceptional beauty to future generations. If all Ukrainian men were midget cock piano players like Zelensky the loss would be an improvement.

        The real tragedy (LOL) of the USNATO proxy war is that the most profitable sector of the US economy— the production and sale of high tech weapons— has been shown to have feet of clay. What is the poor USA to do, having exported nearly all of its non-military manufacturing capability? What country would buy gold plated Patriots that signal their launch so they can be blown out of the sky by the Russian S400 defense batteries offered by the Russians? Or 40 year old F16’s designed with a vacuum cleaner air intake under the nose so they can only be flown from a perfect air strip that has just been hand swept by a team of janitors? Or lumbering F35’s so crammed with electronics that they have trouble getting off the ground and require millions of dollars of maintenance after every few hours of flight?

        Once all the mines planted by the Russian army and the cluster bombs sown by the US have been cleared from the remains of “the ukraine” soil it will return to being the grain basket of the world. Just in time for the ever deeper wells in the USA corn belt to suck the remaining drops of water from the Ogallala Aquifer that is its lifeblood.

    • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 12:35 pm #

      One word: McGregor.

      • Dr. Zonk August 7, 2023 at 4:17 pm #

        Another word: Ritter.

      • Hereward the Woke August 7, 2023 at 4:28 pm #

        Yep. And the Duran boys.

      • Billy Hill August 7, 2023 at 8:55 pm #

        Not plastics?

        • Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 12:41 am #

          Ha!

    • MaryQueen August 7, 2023 at 7:42 pm #

      No one ever has to atone for lying on CNN, so I’m sure those retired generals enjoy their checks for spewing their bullshit.

  13. Beryl of Oyl August 7, 2023 at 10:26 am #

    EXC: Biden Energy Secretary Held Secret Talks With Chinese Official Tied To Hunter Biden’s Investments Before US Drained Oil Reserve.

    https://warroom.org/secretary-held-talks-with-chinese-official-tied-to-biden-investment/

    • JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 10:53 am #

      Not surprising, Beryl.

      Time and again, the number one issue for the Mob is the control of energy generation. Climate change is an excuse. Control energy, and you control the world.

      All things point toward control of the American people, everything the Mob does is to further that control.

      Even if it means destruction of the USA.

    • TPTB-USA August 7, 2023 at 10:59 am #

      Would you agree that this action could be part of the 2030 agenda?

      • JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 11:43 am #

        Global control is the core of the 2030 agenda.

        The USA is a big impediment to that agenda.

        It must be destroyed.

        One thing that I believe will happen if the Mob is re-elected is a major down sizing of the US military, especially the Navy.

        • malthuss August 7, 2023 at 1:40 pm #

          2 indicted days ago…chinese nationals enlisting?? wth?

        • Dr. Zonk August 7, 2023 at 4:13 pm #

          The mandated clot shots are down-sizing the US military – exactly as planned.

        • Hereward the Woke August 7, 2023 at 4:30 pm #

          Problem is, John, the actions of the neocons and Davos fools have empowered other forces which will foil their plans. There’s no way the BRICS are going to bend over for a bunch of WEF beta boys and karens.

          • JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 7:31 pm #

            Yes!

          • TPTB-USA August 7, 2023 at 9:04 pm #

            ” the actions of the neocons and Davos fools have empowered other forces which will foil their plans.” ~ Hereward the Woke

            At this point, I would suggest that it is not definitive who’s on who’s side.

        • TPTB-USA August 7, 2023 at 8:58 pm #

          “It must be destroyed.” ~ JohnAZ

          I would say that “Joe Biden” is doing a phenomenal job in that regard.

          My contention has been that fly-boy Joe’s job has been destruction of the existing format for life, to make way for “Build Back Better”.

          Looking at each individual bit of chaos from the perspective of the 2030 Agenda, it makes sense of all the nonsense.

          One could argue that some of the chaos was inevitable, and the 2030 Agenda perhaps offers some viable solutions, but shouldn’t the world population have a say in the outcome (or is this just wishful thinking)?

          At a minimum, shouldn’t we be focusing on the proposed solutions?

      • Beryl of Oyl August 7, 2023 at 12:49 pm #

        I would.

        • TPTB-USA August 7, 2023 at 8:41 pm #

          Secret talks by “Joe Biden” officials with foreign officials is just SMO (perhaps in any administration) but if those talks amount to negligence, gross incompetence, or outright selling US out, I claim that it amounts to treason.

          Gold Star Families demand answers for deaths of 13 servicememembers during Afghanistan withdrawal
          msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-star-families-demand-answers-for-deaths-of-13-servicememembers-during-afghanistan-withdrawal/ar-AA1eUhX0

          Back then, the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Linda Thomas-Greenfield said “We have also indicated that they have to be respectful of humanitarian law and that we do not expect to see that Afghanistan will become a safe haven for terrorists. But, again, it is not their words that we will hold them to. It is their actions that we will be watching, …”.

          The citizens of the US have a right to know the particulars of the deals that “Joe Biden” is making with foreign officials.

          When one looks at various bits and pieces, it stinks to high heaven.

          The inexorable rise of Jake Sullivan
          politico.com/news/2020/11/27/jake-sullivan-biden-national-security-440814

          Antony Blinken and the ‘made men’ of the Biden administration
          thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3963743-antony-blinken-and-the-made-men-of-the-biden-administration/

          Joe Biden’s inner circle: meet the new president’s close-knit team
          theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/23/joe-biden-president-inner-circle-team-officials

          Veterans give searing testimony on US withdrawal from Afghanistan at hearing
          theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/08/afghanistan-withdrawal-hearings-house-committee

  14. benr August 7, 2023 at 10:32 am #

    Nice Battlestar Galactica reference!

  15. tresho August 7, 2023 at 10:35 am #

    JHK has excessive confidence that the US Congress will do anything about the ongoing decline and fall of the federal government and the nation it purports to represent. Congress can only be relied upon to do 3 things (1) cash every paycheck they get (2) cash every Congressional paycheck they get (3) collect all the federally supported healthcare they are eligible for. Prove me wrong.

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    • JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 10:50 am #

      Do not forget,

      Ignore their constituents until three months before the next election, then spend millions of dollars bullshitting the with MSM ads.

      Defer to the Deep State in all matters.

      Spend as much time with lobbyists as possible.

      Kiss the butts of all Deep Staters more senior to you.

      Party up in the DC scene, the only way to spin your way to the top.

      • Cankerpuss August 7, 2023 at 11:21 am #

        If Congress up and disappeared today, most Americans wouldn’t notice or give a damn.

        I remember seeing Congressman Burgess Owens from Utah in the airport. I knew who he was and was enjoying watching him from a far as he exited the plane. He was alone and as he walked his head darted back and forth looking at the people he passed who said nothing to him and paid him no attention. He appeared to be lost, almost as if he was shocked that nobody was approaching him, asking for his autograph or taking a selfie with him. He went on his merry way.

        And such it is with Congress. Useless. Spineless. Full of self serving money whores. Each representative cannot represent 750,000 constituents. It is an utter joke.

        In a serious Country we would have a Congress that represents its people. A congress of thousands where one representative has 20,000 constituents instead of 750,000. Nothing in the Constitution prohibits a larger Congress where the representatives are closer to the people they represent.

        Instead we get the garbage we have today. Representatives that don’t represent anything but their biggest donors. Then they end up like Burgess Owens, wandering through an airport, longing and hoping for someone to notice how important they are when in reality they are lesser than the leaches in the pond scum.

        • JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 11:39 am #

          In a serious country,

          The Feds would offload responsibility to the states, who would in turn offload responsibility to the Locals who would give responsibility to the individual.

          Exactly the opposite to what all the power mongers want.

          That is why the U.S. is doomed.

          • Cankerpuss August 7, 2023 at 1:30 pm #

            Could not say it any better. How right you are.

        • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 12:38 pm #

          Being a Congress person is a great way to get rich. AOC is worth millions after just a few short years.

          One guy monitors their stock choices closely so you can copy them and get rich too. For a fee….

          • Cankerpuss August 7, 2023 at 1:29 pm #

            Yeah, and nobody gives a fuck that AOC, a former barista, is now worth millions on a job that pays $180K a year.

            I love America.

          • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 1:39 pm #

            All of them end up rich after just a few years. But the lemmings don’t seem to notice or care, but they always respond to the dog whistle to make the “rich” pay “thayer fayer shayer.”

          • RD3 August 7, 2023 at 2:31 pm #

            If she looked like Mary Cheney, nobody would know her name.

          • mrs_saj August 7, 2023 at 4:00 pm #

            RD3,

            Truer words were never spoken.

          • DaveO907 August 7, 2023 at 4:54 pm #

            @Cankerpuss—AOC was the daughter of a successful Westchester (I heard it’s a toney neighborhood) architect and crafted her Puerto Rican Brooklyn / Bronx image via the modern political campaign codes.
            Forsooth, her bartending job was in a joint that she half-owned and she did her basic training for D.C. in the office of Senator Ted Kennedy.

            “West Side Story” lololol. I’m just glad she has that squeaky, whiney, faux-indignant voice to remind us of who she really is.

            Obama commands: “Bootstraps!”
            AOC responds: “How high…?”
            Pelosi snickers… and promptly passes out.

            Just another day in D.C.

          • WilliamShatnersPants August 7, 2023 at 8:16 pm #

            Huh? Millions? Where’s your reference?

            opensecrets.org/personal-finances/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/net-worth?cid=N00041162

            This says $16,000…after coming to Congress in a negative -$8,000 starting point.

    • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 12:43 pm #

      Hear, hear!

    • Qwibqwib August 8, 2023 at 12:18 am #

      The House has always been blown to and fro by the changing political winds. It’s purpose is to express the unbridled popular sentiment of the people. As Canker says, larger would be better IMHO.

      The Senate, however, is supposed to be above that. The Senator is supposed to be elected by his/her respective state legislature. Things are out of balance now that the people directly elect their senator.

  16. JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 10:43 am #

    Aaah, nostalgia. Everyone’s panacea, the escape route to denial.

    “Remember when things were so much better, remember when you were a child, without adult responsibility?

    Remember when mom and dad took care of everything? It felt so good.

    The Barbie movie showed up and has shown the attitude of the Jill Average. One billion dollars globally in two weeks. Escapism at its very best.

    Infantilism, a tenet of the Liberal group. Mama and Papa government will take care of everything!!

    Right?

    • JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 10:44 am #

      I remember that the suburban housewife was one of the biggest anti-Trump groups in the electorate.

      Surprised?

      • cowbell81 August 7, 2023 at 10:48 am #

        This is surprising. Apparently, they hate men that actually go out and get stuff done. Who would have thought that the suburban housewife would veer so left and hate masculinity in its most pure American form?

        • Cankerpuss August 7, 2023 at 11:15 am #

          And they are more miserable and depressed than ever before. Obsessed with Facebook and Instagram, posting and absorbing endless pictures of that perfect life that is eternally elusive because it doesn’t exist. So, they keep kicking against the pricks and revolting against their own biological nature, thinking it will bring them happiness.

          Sad.

        • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 12:41 pm #

          The Clubs are dying because men don’t go anymore. Women go and post themselves dancing and having a good time – when they aren’t dancing. As soon as hit send, they stop moving.

          • elysianfield August 7, 2023 at 3:23 pm #

            ” they stop moving”

            Jarek,
            Sounds like sex after marriage….

            …Gonna be here all week…try the prime rib….

        • RD3 August 7, 2023 at 2:35 pm #

          They just think and feel what their media masters tell them to think and feel. Its no wonder that women are so desirable in corporate jobs. They do exactly what they are told to do. They never deviate from what is dictated down to them. They take praise or a title instead of money. They get to lord their petty authority over everyone beneath them. The men in charge get to look at some T&A.

          • Dr. Zonk August 7, 2023 at 4:06 pm #

            BINGO!

  17. bobfitz03 August 7, 2023 at 10:43 am #

    Bribery, war crimes, bank runs, depravity, genocide, E.T. revelation, societal collapse.

    Nothing has cracked the Normie shell, or made much of a dent really. Some unimagined combination of king-hell stimuli might do the trick.

    On that day, Karen will finally be told to put a sock in it and sit down. She will draw herself up in harpy indignation and summon forth the full fury of righteous cancelation. But, none will heed the call. Normies will be otherwise disposed.

    On that happy day, the worm turns.

    • benr August 7, 2023 at 10:49 am #

      Wait till the food starts running low and not just Sriracha from huy fong foods!

      • Night Owl August 7, 2023 at 11:06 am #

        Sriracha and Pho–a match made in heaven.

    • Cankerpuss August 7, 2023 at 11:12 am #

      “On that day, Karen will finally be told to put a sock in it and sit down”

      Let me take it a bit further and tweak your words a little.

      On that day women will finally be told to put a sock in it and sit down and shut her mouth. The real man will finally rise up and retake his position as the patriarch of society and solve the problems feminization has wrought upon us.

      Sorry ladies, don’t mean to offend, but you gals got your heads up your rear ends. This transgender mess is affecting you more than us men folk and you are doing nothing. Women have lost it in our society. The sexual revolution hasn’t been friendly to the fairer sex, which, in my opinion, isn’t all that much fairer anymore.

      • bobfitz03 August 7, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

        Karen is legion, but she is not all women. Many a based sister fights the good fight.

        • Cankerpuss August 7, 2023 at 1:35 pm #

          You are correct, not ALL women. I’m with a good woman who loves her woman hood, her children and as a mother protects and fights for her children. Most importantly, my wife has no interest in being a man and doing what a man does. She’s a great lady.

          I’m sure there are many women out there who value what they are, what they bring to society and understand the importance of their roles as Mothers to a society. Unfortunately, they are minority. Most women today are just plum nutso. Confused and disrupted after decades of being told they can be everything and anything other than what God and nature intended for them to be. Mothers, nurturers, controllers of morality and controllers of men.

          Yeah, I said it. Go ahead and hate on me ladies. We men need you women to get your act together.

          • Anthea August 8, 2023 at 2:44 am #

            Much of the problem is that, since about 1970, women have had to assume traditional masculine roles, in addition to being mothers and homemakers. They did this primarily because men abdicated from masculine roles and responsibilities. Women HAD to do this. They had to become full-time wage-earners, because Dad took off or did not support the family. And, of course, women’s role as mothers and homemakers has been denigrated since at least 1970–and actually probably since about 1955. I well remember the media back in the 50s referring to women who wanted to marry as “looking for a free meal ticket,” the wife as “a ball and chain,” and housewives being portrayed as eating bon-bons all day. The media actually started working on the men to reject marriage, as well as traditional male responsibilities, way back in the 50s.

            Also, as I’ve mentioned before. BOTH men and women need to be chaste before marriage. Unchastity shows contempt for the opposite sex, in both men and women–and contempt for their proper masculine and feminine roles. An unchaste man shows contempt for his mother and sisters, since he feels he can be contemptuous of other people’s mothers and sisters. An unchaste woman shows contempt for her father and brothers, and indicates that she thinks so little of men in general that she has no expectation of finding a virtuous man to marry. I think it is very little acknowledged that women in general are often promiscuous to “get even” with men for being promiscuous; i.e., “I can be just as contemptuous of you as you are of me.”

          • Jarek August 9, 2023 at 12:39 pm #

            “had to assume” – as if Feminism didn’t demand this right, much to the Capitalists delight.

            But yes, some women never wanted all this but had to adapt to it.

          • Qwibqwib August 10, 2023 at 5:54 am #

            “They did this primarily because men abdicated from masculine roles and responsibilities.”

            Nope, they did this because of progressive taxes and the fed debauching our money. In 1913, the monster under your bed took over our money supply. Since that year, our money has lost %96 of it’s value.

            Our single income household society became a two income household society. Simple as that.

            The man leaving the Wife (or whatever) was and still is the exception to the rule. You don’t even mention this in your post. Just straight into man bashing, so gauche.

            You lose credibility when you post stuff like that.

    • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 12:43 pm #

      O Happy Day! ET phone home. Tell them that the Earth has come thru the crisis.

    • MaryQueen August 7, 2023 at 7:47 pm #

      Nobody really cares what you lot think of women. But it’s funny as hell you spend so much time obsessing about us & blaming us for all the ills your lot have caused.

  18. Easyenergy August 7, 2023 at 10:47 am #

    Jeezus Jim, you’re such an optimist. The Biden’s will pay for their crimes and big Pharma will be held to account? Not going to happen. Big Pharma has a laundry list of past crimes from thalomide, defective IUD’s, statins, opiods, and on and on. This latest Covid crime is simply the evolution of their past patterns. As for Biden and the Democrats being brought to justice. Well, still waiting for justice in the death of Archbishop Romero, the death of 500,000 Iraqi children, the interference in countless foreign elections, the destruction of Libya, Ukraine, Vietnam, the murder of a sitting President…you get the point. Manufacturing Consent by Edward Herman and Noam Chomsky, is a great book to understand why the concentrated corporate media let them get away with it and actively sell it to the masses. The updated version is 20 years old but explains so well how we got sold this bill of goods.

    • Cankerpuss August 7, 2023 at 11:08 am #

      Justice will not come from the Government or the defunct justice system of our day. JHK’s writings are optimistic which is why I enjoy reading them. However, justice will be coming from something other than the Government.

      From the people? Naw, too divided, too stupid, too apathetic.

      From other nations? Naw, they are just as pathetic and bankrupt as the USA.

      From God? Depends on what God is. Nature? Spirit? Aliens? Now we’re getting somewhere.

      • JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 11:26 am #

        The sermon last Sunday talked about the seven hundred years between the Assyrian conquest of northern Israel and the birth of Christ. Northern Israel was decimated, its 1% sold into slavery and its government replaced with Assyrians. It ceased to exist.

        It struck me that the story parallels today, here! Will the USA just cease to exist, its foundations disappearing into history?

        The people of northern Israel largely rejected Yahweh, favoring other gods, greed, hatred, and Yahweh looked away. Man , on his own, self destructed, always.

        When Yahweh looks away,

        Watch out.

        • malthuss August 7, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

          I do not like your sermon.

          • JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 7:30 pm #

            History repeats

            And hurts.

  19. DaveO907 August 7, 2023 at 10:49 am #

    Thank you again, JHK.

    The “Normies.” This possible coming “national epiphany” will be a mass IQ test in real time to quantify just how many functional brain cells yet exist in the larger adult population Complicated by how to define an adult in these crazed times of perma-psy-ops standing as the mainstream’s sole source of information available to the seemingly now incurious. This largely as a direct result of the distractions of electronica in its hyper-availability of its induction’s seduction and ever-increasing panoply.

    We know what makes the “Normie” American brain tick, but what passes for its remaining independent actual thought quotient is the disturbing question that should be answered as a result of further exposure of our authoritarian miscreants in the timeline you have established. The fate of our kind on this continent expressly.

    Just how many of our fellow citizens will “graduate?” I am dread-filled that the pattern we have seen thus far, this far into the exposure of the Owners’ actions, is the representative one that has been so stealthily habituated into the many.
    I sincerely hope I am wrong. It is largely an intuitive guess. I want to believe “We’re better than this!” But so much conspires against us reclaiming that which we let slip away. Those who intended for the country and citizens to wind up here have had many years and decades to erode our fundaments in so many critical institutions that made us who we are. Or were?

    And furthermore, this latest and most notorious applied round of internecine conflict—this gender-sexing brouhaha—intensifies our national discord at a primal level intended to distract us from the truly existential issues of our times. More “baffle ’em with bullshit.” Make that deadly serious if all too misplaced, angry bullshit. The kind that jumps from the shadows of the cave of the amygdala. No flight, just fight, fight, fight.

    My country tis of thee, sweet land of parody. Ruled and sustained in its current distorted application and outlook by perverted wretches.
    Rise up, citizens, especially you “Normies.” Rise up or be smothered by this grotesque anti-humane iniquitous Blob.
    Truth told, it’s now or never.

    • Disaffected August 7, 2023 at 11:01 am #

      It will be never. The normies have long since checked out. The coming collapse will only make it worse as the scapegoating ramps up in earnest. We bought the ticket, we must take the ride.

    • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 11:49 am #

      “Complicated by how to define an adult in these crazed times ”

      Think of when all those kids on puberty blockers reach adulthood, as defined by number of years on the planet.

      21 year olds with stunted genitals, missing body parts, and deformed bones and brains from the chemicals they started ingesting as children.

      How many are there? Probably enough to make this country even more dysfunctional.

      • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 12:53 pm #

        There’s good horror movie material there for sure.

        • aelpha August 8, 2023 at 9:47 am #

          That movie has already been produced, Sleepaway Camp, 1983.

      • Beryl of Oyl August 7, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

        They are bringing back the eunuchs, and nobody seems to notice.

      • mrs_saj August 7, 2023 at 4:17 pm #

        Paula,

        The only good news in the scenario is that they cannot procreate.

        • DaveO907 August 7, 2023 at 5:10 pm #

          Yuval’s Pods ala “The Matrix.”
          They will proliferate like Michael Chertoff’s “I can see you nekkid!” X-ray machines in every U.S. major airport.
          “There’s gold in them thar hills!”

  20. Cankerpuss August 7, 2023 at 11:05 am #

    Great write up JHK, as usual.

    Things are still too good for the “normies” to awaken. As long as they have their television, their boats, their drugs, their pornography, their fast food restaurants, their credit cards that let them buy what they want when they want it, their sports (professional and child) they will not awaken. Most will continue to stick their heads up their asses or cover their ears and shout “La La La.”

    I don’t think they do this out of stupidity. I believe they do this because, like me, they don’t know what the fuck to do about any of it.

    Vote? My big ass that will do any good.
    Contact their Congress Rep? Such a joke. Representative? Laughable.
    Go to church? To be told if they don’t support their gay neighbors’ marriage they are going to hell? Yeah that’ll help.
    Work hard? So they can pay more taxes.
    Run for political office? To have their good reputation wiped out.

    So, they hide behind what they have and only when they don’t have anything to lose anymore will they awaken and fight back. They’ll fight because they can’t lose anymore.

    That’s how I see it.

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    • JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 11:31 am #

      The church I attend says that the perversion of Yahweh’s rules set is the ticket to disaster.

      Look around, history repeats as the rejection of God in this country happens big time.

      Paraphrasing an ad from the 60s,

      You do not want to mess with Yahweh. (Mother Nature)

      • cowbell81 August 7, 2023 at 11:50 am #

        So maybe all this “global warming” stuff is Yahweh’s method of destroying us for our perversities? How come the Left doesn’t see it this way? If they stop being gay and woke, then we won’t have a “climate crisis” anymore! Mission accomplished!

        • JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 6:42 pm #

          Yahweh does not destroy us, He looks away.

          Man is fully capable of destroying himself, which up to now, he has been proficient at.

          Over and over and over.

          The planet is warming, temperature monitoring shows it on land and in the ocean.

          Why? CO2? Partly? I believe much much more is coming from the formation of megapolis heat islands (I live in Phoenix and have seen hotter summers since I came here 20 years ago).

          Heat islands affect ambient temperatures by not allowing nighttime to cool things down. Nighttime temperatures here are 10 degrees warmer than in the past.

          Is the sun getting hotter? Are orbit perturbations making El Niño and ocean gyres squirrely. Is the Gulf Stream and its associated deep currents slowing down?

          Do jet aircraft in the stratosphere cause CO2 accumulation there? Or do they put particulate there to cut down on solar input?

          Or are the flipping magnetic poles causing a decline in the magnetic field allowing more energy in.

          The number one deal here is that of all the above causes the least damaging is probably CO2.

          So guess where our illustrious government puts up its house of cards? EVs.

          Yahweh is just shaking His head, wondering why He wasted so much effort on us.

          Again.

  21. Ann Oid August 7, 2023 at 11:07 am #

    I will believe normies will awake when my brother entertains the idea that his three vaxxes may have contributed to the two types of tinnitus he has been diagnosed with in addition to his new high blood pressure. So far, not happening. Even the fact that his 21 year old son also developed tinnitus after the required booster for him to attend college hasn’t shaken his faith in the vax. I don’t see normies awakening to anything. It is way too scary.

    • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 12:57 pm #

      It’s like what that one actor in a Harry Potter movie said about the dementors when he was teaching Harry about them: the real thing was much, much worse (than the “fake” one he’d been fighting). That’s what I believe it’s like for the “normies.” Reality is so much, much worse that they prefer their fantasy.

    • JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 6:47 pm #

      Ann

      Interesting.

      I got the initial shots because I was high risk. None since.

      We went to Puerto Vallarta last November and got PCR detected Covid.

      Since, on and off vertigo that seems to be position related when I sleep.

      Could it be that the virus, or the Vaxx (mini virus) attacks the ears in some people like the nose in others? Of course, no info exists.

    • MaryQueen August 7, 2023 at 8:25 pm #

      I got tinnitus in October, 2021, and I have not had any vaxxes.

      So I think there might be other things at play.

      My tinnitus coincides with our area implementing 5G.

      But of course, correlation is not causation, or so they say. So who knows.

  22. elysianfield August 7, 2023 at 11:22 am #

    Well, ladies and germs;

    You KNOW that the SPR, the Strategic Petroleum Reserve is at it’s lowest level in decades. Reserves primarily were for military preparedness, but also used to be sold on the open market to mitigate high oil prices in the good old USA, happy motoring being a political necessity.

    Well, the Situational Awareness this AM reports;

    (1) HOUSE TO INVESTIGATE ENERGY SECRETARY CCP COMMUNICATIONS: House Energy and Commerce Committee Chair Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA) said the committee would demand answers from Department of Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm after news broke that she contacted her Chinese government counterpart days before the Biden administration announced Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) releases beginning in 2021.
    Rodgers said Granholm undermined U.S. energy security by making SPR releases for political purposes and has since sold millions of barrels from the SPR to China.

    Millions of barrels of Oil sold to the “Heathen Chinee”? Yes, there is happy motoring, but along the Huang Poo river in Shanghai.., not along our pot-holed Interstate 80 or in Southern Oregon, where a gallon of low test is $4.59 per.

    • JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 11:33 am #

      Surprising?

      Not.

      The Mob wants FF of all sorts destroyed.

      The SPR is no exception.

      This government is the enemy of the American people, period.

    • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 12:46 pm #

      Clear Treason. What will be done about it? Nothing.

    • stelmosfire August 7, 2023 at 5:46 pm #

      Well Jenny did take No. 2 on the Dating Game so there’s that.

      httpx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5UpUBLv-B8

  23. cowbell81 August 7, 2023 at 11:41 am #

    So funny, spot on take from the Bee:

    “White House Says Bidenomics So Successful The Average American Has Twice As Many Jobs As They Had Two Years Ago”

    WASHINGTON, D.C. — In a press briefing this morning, the White House praised the overwhelming success of “Bidenomics,” as the average American now has twice as many jobs as they had two years ago.

    “Thanks to the President’s wonderful economic policies, most Americans have at least two jobs,” said gay, black Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre to the raucous applause of hand-picked journalists in the room. “Our economists ran the numbers and found that’s twice as many jobs as people used to have just a few years ago. So many jobs! Success!”

    “Wow! Thanks, President Biden!” said local barista/hardware store clerk/landscaper/drive-thru worker/Uber driver Brett Barnes. “I’m just swimming in jobs right now! Just a couple more jobs and I’ll be able to afford bread, eggs, AND milk! Bidenomics works!”

    Vice President Kamala Harris also weighed in, saying: “Jobs are important. A job is what you do for a job. Especially now, at this moment in our history, jobs are now a very important part of our history. Because jobs are what we do in history! You know what I mean? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!”

    At publishing, Ukrainian President Zelensky had also touted Biden’s economic plan as “working pretty great.”

    • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

      Yeah, and she said this with a straight face, too.

      • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 1:43 pm #

        Come Christmas, they’ll have to have three.

    • JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 6:50 pm #

      Hmmm

      Does the supposed explosion of jobs indicate a big drop off of productivity due to home offices and use of the computer?

  24. Paula D August 7, 2023 at 11:58 am #

    Thrilled by the slaughter of Slavic men in Ukraine, the US continues its efforts to start a war with China, sailing and flying through the South China Sea, using the patently ridiculous claim that they are keeping the sealanes open. You know, the sealanes that China uses to export goods. It is beyond stupid to claim that China would shut down its own transport route, but our rulers think we are idiots.

    Meanwhile, in Syria, where the US is occupying 30% of the country, and stealing their wheat and oil, (to the complete silence of the “international community”), they are responding to increased restlessness of the natives by sending 2500 more US soldiers to provoke them.
    Great move, Biden.

    And in Africa, where the US and France have troops in Niger, they are making invasion noises in response to the coup.
    In response to the invasion noises, other African countries have announced they are going to come to the defense of Niger.

    So count up the places where the US has troops, and the troops are a major irritant to the countries they are occupying.

    Something’s gotta blow somewhere, is my prediction.

    • cowbell81 August 7, 2023 at 12:19 pm #

      An embassy will probably be bombed soon, or a few higher-level leaders will be assassinated. Other countries should just take a stand already and tell the US to shove it and leave their borders.

      Here at home I would be in favor of the USA doing the same thing, telling the UN to shove it and get out of NYC. Think of all the foreign migrants that could be housed in the UN Building? Talk about a truly “united nation” with multiple nationalities all under one roof.

    • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 12:59 pm #

      I’ll bet all those troops are reservists, too.

      • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 1:32 pm #

        I saw someone mention that the troops in Niger were National Guard from some state. Wisconsin?

        I don’t remember. I wasn’t sure it was true.

        • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 1:45 pm #

          I think it is true. Reservists are the disposable troops. They activate them just shy of six months active duty so they won’t incur veteran status. That’s why so many had multiple deployments in years past.

          • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 3:18 pm #

            Despicable.

        • cowbell81 August 7, 2023 at 1:46 pm #

          So much for “guarding” our nation, huh? lol

          The National Guard is nothing but a farce.

          • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 4:47 pm #

            Your tax dollars at work.

        • stelmosfire August 7, 2023 at 5:54 pm #

          I live close to an Air reserve base where an Airlift wing is based. Big planes! I know a guy who regularly pilots these monsters overseas. He can’t say much but he mentioned a while back to keep an eye on Africa.

    • DaveO907 August 7, 2023 at 5:25 pm #

      Australia’s role-playing in this shivaree is over the top. With a straight face too. Their largest export market, what makes the country tick, is China. That’s why AUKUS is so important for Oz’s security. (You tell me)

      The bright side is there is no apparent shortage of dullard Aussie politicians to deliver the U.S.’s lines. And hey, weren’t they just exemplary protectors of democratic values in the plague years…? Kicking the crap out of any and all, old and young. “You can’t leave the country. You can’t enter the country. But you can and will enter our special camps for however long we decide to hold you.”

      “Heckuva job, Brownie.” GWB should have copyrighted that malapropism. It has proven all too prescient.

    • Ron Anselmo August 7, 2023 at 9:49 pm #

      Yes Paula – the French troops in Niger will be able to focus & pick up the pace after they retake Paris & Marseilles.

  25. SW August 7, 2023 at 12:19 pm #

    The illegal and obviously dangerous lab operating in a small town in California was briefly mentioned in the news. Why did this get so little attention?

    “Certain rooms of the warehouse were found to contain several vessels of liquid and various apparatus,” court documents said. “Fresno County Public Health staff also observed blood, tissue and other bodily fluid samples and serums; and thousands of vials of unlabeled fluids and suspected biological material.”

    Hundreds of mice also were found at the warehouse, where they were “kept in inadequate conditions in overcrowded cages” with no food or water, according to court documents. An associate with Prestige Biotech told investigators the mice were “genetically engineered to catch and carry the COVID virus,” the documents added.”

    The way this was discovered was someone noticed a garden hose attached to a building he thought was empty. When they went in, they found (looking at the pictures) a chaotic mess and mice stuffed in cages, some of them already dead.

    This is just one example of the incompetence that’s now the norm in the US, or so it appears to me. Our only hope is the aliens are real and they’re friendly.

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    • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 12:49 pm #

      Hundreds of Chinese fighting men are crossing our border every month. No hanging around on the streets, waiting for services. They keep clean clothes in a sealed bag inside their pack. They wash up, put on the clean clothes, and get on busses and trains to go where they have been assigned. They have money in other words.

      • BackRowHeckler August 7, 2023 at 1:29 pm #

        Two Chinese US Navy sailors arrested by the FBI last week for passing classified material to CCP intel operatives

        Xi Jinping, addressing the question of whether or not Chinese people who have emigrated the West should still consider themselves Chinese: “Tell them to look in the mirror.”

        • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 1:34 pm #

          Yes, this is National Socialism. They are “Nazis”!

          You don’t need as much obnoxious ideology if you are in tune with biology. Of course culture is important too. We don’t need any blonde or red bearded Muslims, right?

        • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 1:47 pm #

          I think that answers it right there.

      • SW August 7, 2023 at 1:36 pm #

        There’s a good book about illegal Chinese immigration, Snakehead (that’s what they call their coyotes that help them get into the US). There are a lot more than we realize and you’re right, Jarek, they have a plan when they get here. The California lab originally belonged to a Chinese firm, then was sold (whatever) and the addresses of the businesses were either in China or phony.

        But we can rest easier tonight knowing that the FBI fanatically tracks down anyone within 10 miles of the Capital on 1/6 or made a phone call to someone. A Chinese lab — and who knows if this was the only one? — can have genetically modified mice and test tubes of microbes and it takes a concerned citizen to discover it.

        • malthuss August 7, 2023 at 1:45 pm #

          is the title OPERATION SNAKEHEAD?

          • SW August 7, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

            The Snakehead by Patrick Radden Keefe.

        • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 1:49 pm #

          Yeah, no shit. That’s when they’re not investigating nooses hanging in garages or white supermacists.

          • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 1:49 pm #

            Yeah, no shit. That’s when they’re not investigating nooses hanging in garages or white supremacists.

      • elysianfield August 7, 2023 at 3:30 pm #

        “You should not be afraid of a few Chinese laundrymen”~ E. Almond

      • malthuss August 7, 2023 at 10:41 pm #

        100s..from a land of billions..chindia = 3 billion.

    • DaveO907 August 7, 2023 at 5:37 pm #

      Who knows…? Not an especially elaborate construct as a false flag either. We’ve seen some real humdingers over the decades.
      I’m just going by experience. The plausibility of perspective # 1? Oh yeah. Could very well be. But it serves a purpose if it’s not the “obvious” it screams that it is.

      “Our” side has proven quite capable at ginning up high emotions, even mass panic. Come to think of it, we’re barely out of the last one. If indeed we are actually out of it.

      I’m sure feeling ‘out of it’ in both weariness and dread for what these obsessive-compulsive shadow acting factions have planned for Chapter II.
      Which leaves me once again saying “I don’t know.”

  26. jim August 7, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

    When the normies awake they will likely be confronted not with collapse but the structural reality of a new kind of one-party state.

    While many normies now slumber, the transformation of our political regime accelerates.

    This new managerial regime consists primarily of technological expertise, the demands of the woke revolution, and the covert operations of our national security managers.

    The net result is that there is no more separation of powers, no more constitutional rights, and no more traditional economy (consisting of a prosperous middle class, small business and trades people, and semi-autonomous professionals of various types).

    If concrete strategies for dealing with this emerging one-party state are not formulated now, everyone might as well go back to sleep.

    • DaveO907 August 7, 2023 at 6:00 pm #

      @Jim
      All the while being under a literal ‘state of surveillance.’ We all fell for its enchanting charms, all the while ‘spilling the beans’ of every one of our lives’ details.
      They read us (past) and read us (present) like a book, daily, the book we continue to write for their edification.

      Reminds me of that old and ever-durable ditty: “Wanna make God laugh? Tell Him your plans.” Paradoxically speaking, but of course.

    • Islander August 7, 2023 at 6:02 pm #

      “The net result is that there is no more separation of powers, no more constitutional rights, and no more traditional economy (consisting of a prosperous middle class, small business and trades people, and semi-autonomous professionals of various types).”

      The New Gleichschaltung.

  27. Q. Shtik August 7, 2023 at 12:29 pm #

    @Mr. James

    “our standing around [the] world”

    The bracketed word is missing in the 2nd paragraph of today’s essay.

    • Night Owl August 10, 2023 at 10:48 am #

      Write out numbers below ten here, noob.

  28. Beryl of Oyl August 7, 2023 at 12:33 pm #

    I wonder if Megan Rapinoe understands that she was chosen to get Americans rooting against the US Soccer team?

    To get Americans rooting against their own country?

    • JackStraw August 7, 2023 at 12:45 pm #

      Please explain. I’m very interested in hearing about this one, because she succeeded brilliantly.

      • Beryl of Oyl August 7, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

        That’s why she was allowed to participate in that “taking a knee” idiocy.

        She thought she was being brave and bold or something, but she was merely stupid enough to take part in a government approved
        protest, created to divide Americans.

        She did succeed brilliantly, but the way she was blathering on about her accomplishments and regretting that she didn’t have a chance to do more, tells me she believes herself to be a proper SJW of the first order instead of a pawn.

        • SW August 7, 2023 at 1:53 pm #

          This is the team that most of the women refused to sing the National Anthem or put their hands over their hearts. They showed their indifference, if not outright contempt, for the country that gave them the opportunity to be there in the first place. I’m really tired of these self-righteous, highly paid athletes’ behavior.

          After she missed the kick (according to the news) she said she “was seized by emotion but broke into a laugh to stave them off.” She, philosopher that she is, saw the “dark humor” of missing.

          “And I joke too often, always in the wrong places and inappropriately, so maybe this is a ‘haha’ at the end,” she said. “I don’t know. Seems funny.”

          “Nobody’s gonna laugh because you guys feel bad,” she told a throng of reporters. “But it’s kinda funny.” And again, she smiled.

          What a great gal! With any luck her team mates have finally seen through her, but I doubt it.

          • Islander August 7, 2023 at 6:03 pm #

            On the photo of her that I saw I wondered whether she was a tranny.

        • MaryQueen August 7, 2023 at 8:33 pm #

          She’s pro-trans agenda, a hand-maiden for men in dresses.

          • Jarek August 8, 2023 at 2:08 am #

            She’s a politically correct feminist/lesbian. Remember, there are many varieties of Feminists (as you said), not just Rads and Handmaids.

          • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 7:37 pm #

            Why do I need to remember that? I told you.

          • Jarek August 9, 2023 at 12:41 pm #

            So act like you know. Rapinoe isn’t a “handmaid”, just a fool who is betraying her own ideology to stay in good with the system.

        • Amman August 9, 2023 at 12:54 pm #

          SJW?

    • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 12:51 pm #

      The freak is for men competing against women – at least now that she has retired. So much for her “feminism”.

    • Night Owl August 10, 2023 at 10:46 am #

      Who cares. Women’s soccer is about as interesting as watching mud harden.

      The US women’s national team regularly gets beaten by U-15 boys in scrimmages.

      I grew up playing and love the sport, and I am happy many women also enjoy it, but this effort to turn the women’s world cup into something it is not is tiresome.

  29. SaHiB August 7, 2023 at 12:41 pm #

    Trumpenstein exacerbated the run-up of the national debt, so don’t just blame O’Biden. The US has been insolvent since November 1917. AI Elon Muskox didn’t beef-up any immune system against censorship; he still considers my assertion ivermectin be useful against the HUMAN affliction onchocerciasis “advocate suicide”. Hope you’re right about NAsTO. “Normies” never awaken! Good thing most of them took the sludge shots!

  30. butter56 August 7, 2023 at 12:56 pm #

    Demographic change is the trump card which prevents action on snowballing synergistic problems confronting the country. It is totally normal in the history of mankind for diverse cultures , races and ethnicities to be in conflict. Thank you LBJ, Ted Kennedy , and Jacob Javits for the meet you made. Fourth Turnings do not always turn out well, look for this one to be a disaster.

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    • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 1:35 pm #

      It was Reagan who actually opened the borders.

      • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 1:40 pm #

        Remember, as a Communist, you were (are?) in favor of this.

        • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 1:44 pm #

          Thanks for reminding me of something I never believed.

          You’re good at that.

          • Islander August 7, 2023 at 6:05 pm #

            Jarek should be disallowed from mentioning any other CFN commenter in his inane mental burps.

          • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 6:50 pm #

            So why did you deny Stalin killed millions? Only a Commie would deny that.

          • Paula D August 8, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

            Saying that Stalin did not kill millions does not make one a commie, any more than saying that there are only two sexes makes one transphobic.

            Reality is reality, no matter what your owners tell you.

          • Jarek August 8, 2023 at 5:14 pm #

            Stalin was a Communist.
            Communists defend their own.
            Few non-Communists do.
            You defend him.
            Thus you are (probably) a Communist.

            It’s not an airtight syllogism, but it is indicative, especially given all the other evidence.

            Kdog said you ran for office. What party did you represent?

      • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 1:52 pm #

        The more I read about Reagan the less of that great cold war warrior he turns out to be. I discovered on a Chuck Missler video one day that Reagan and Gorbachev made a deal early in Reagan’s first term, 1980 or1981, that the US would adopt the Soviet Union’s education system if they would essentially pack up their marbles and go home. And so in the mid-80s our junior high schools were changed to middle schools and multiculturalism and diversity indoctrination were introduced into our school system. And in the late 80s the Soviet Union packed up its marbles and went home.

        • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 3:23 pm #

          That’s an odd assertion. I just read that Russia had adopted US forms of education after the Soviet Union was destroyed, but it didn’t work, so they are going back to the Soviet system.

          These two assertions are incompatible, but I find the dysfunctional US system being dropped, more believable.

          • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 3:53 pm #

            Dimitri Orlov came to the country as a child. I forget what grade he entered here. Maybe 8th grade?

            Anyway, the math they were teaching the US students in that grade was math he had learned years earlier, in his Soviet school.

          • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 3:56 pm #

            Also, Reagan wasn’t president until 1981 and Gorbachev wasn’t General Secretary until 1985.

            So, yeah, no, that story is bogus.

          • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 4:53 pm #

            I could have the years wrong. It’s been awhile since I’ve seen the video. But I remember what he said. And it wasn’t the academic side of the education system, it was the multiculturalism and diversity part of it, the consensus making.

          • Islander August 7, 2023 at 6:07 pm #

            Paula and Tu:

            Cue the importance of documentation.

          • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 7:42 pm #

            Yes, documentation. I’m too lazy to look it up now, but I think that the whole “cultural diversity” push on schoolchildren in the US is much more recent than the 80s.

            Hence, the uproar over CRT, for instance. If they were pushing that bullshit since the 80s, it wouldn’t cause such anger now.

  31. Islander August 7, 2023 at 1:04 pm #

    ” a pungent irony. When the impeachment process gets underway in earnest this fall, I expect “Joe Biden” will resign, leaving Ms. Harris to be managed by the shadow-president Barack Obama.”

    “Pungent irony” is my favorite kind!!

    Not so sure about Obama being able to stay in the background at this point.

    He has to be super-careful to dodge the spotlight.

    Maybe Comer’s investigation will lead to Obama’s being a bit less sacrosanct as a target of inquiry.
    I mean, where did the $70 mill really come from?
    What really happened to the chef?
    Who really organized the delegitimization campaing against candidate, President-elect , and PresidentTrump?
    How much did Obama know, and when did he know it?

    Meanwhile . . .

    Great moments in propaganda I:
    NYT frontpage story with large photo:
    Desire Behind Putin’s War:
    Wider Conflict with West;
    An appeal to history and nationalism that rouses many and frightens some,” by Roger Cohen
    A large photo shows russian cadets of some kind; the caption states that Russian schoolchildren are propagandized . . .

    Great Moments in Propaganda II:
    NYT today, “Kennedy’s Bid for Presidency Jolts Camelot”
    Jack Schlossberg, a nobody, as far as I can tell, is heavily quoted dissing on his uncle.

    So, from left to right on the page, gossipy drivel to foreign policy and political philosophy drivel. It’s all drivel. But still, obvious propaganda.

    • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 1:37 pm #

      Calling Russian troops “Putin’s forces” fighting “Putin’s war” is blatant propaganda.

      Why don’t they call the US troops in Syria stealing oil “Biden’s forces”?

      Why don’t they call the conflict in Ukraine “Biden’s war”?

  32. docmartin August 7, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

    Wonder how many of you would get in the face of a wokester in person( which is what is needed) rather than hang out in the echo chamber and let it happen? All this analysis and chit chat doesn’t mean crap. Fire back at those narcissistic mentally ill POS in person when the opportunity presents itself. So Mr Kunster lambastes people for enjoying the rest of summer while he harvests his micro farm and fiddles like it’s 1888? He just affects a different style, not a different substance.

    • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 1:55 pm #

      You cannot get in the face of a wokester without beheading them. It’s a Pavlovian response. That’s why it probably won’t happen.

      • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

        You know, that’s really what you need. Just like on The Walking Dead when Alpha killed those people and stuck their head on poles all lined up in a row. Talk about a powerful message. Or the crucified apes in the third Planet of the Apes movie.

        • cowbell81 August 7, 2023 at 2:11 pm #

          I seem to recall a similar head on spikes event in one of Jim’s World Made By Hand novels. It was a good approach that kept the riffraff at bay.

          Who’s to say we don’t get in the face of the wokies and yell at them when we are out in public? I for one have done this numerous times, especially during the “pandemic”.

          I argued and yelled at many people about masking, the fake virus, etc. They wouldn’t hear any of it and just acted like afraid little twerps.

        • Jarek August 8, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

          And remember what the Mutant said, We are a peaceful people. We don’t kill people, we get them to kill each other and themselves.

          The crucified apes was just an illusion sent by the mutant telepaths. They also set up a giant wall of flames, but the heroic Orangutan, Cornelius, rode right into to show the cowering Gorillas the truth.

          • Jarek August 8, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

            Correction: Cornelius was Zira’s Chimp boyfriend. I forget what the Orangutan’s name was. I must remember!

          • megabeth August 9, 2023 at 10:32 pm #

            Jarek: Doctor Zais

          • Jarek August 10, 2023 at 1:09 pm #

            You begin to redeem yourself.

    • Qwibqwib August 8, 2023 at 12:52 am #

      I did challenge the woke agenda, to their faces. I no longer work at that company…

  33. Beryl of Oyl August 7, 2023 at 1:09 pm #

    Why is a man actually running for president (Ron DeSantis) making arrangements to debate a man not running (Gavin Newsom)?

    Why does no one find that strange?

    Has such a thing ever happened before?

    Shouldn’t he be debating RFK Jr. if he doesn’t want to debate Joe?

    • beantownbill. August 7, 2023 at 1:43 pm #

      Good point.

    • cowbell81 August 7, 2023 at 1:44 pm #

      Babylon Bee headline:

      “Governor Of State People Are Fleeing From Agrees To Debate Governor Of State They Are Fleeing To”

    • tuco22 August 7, 2023 at 1:59 pm #

      Nothing is strange in Bizarro World, Beryl. It’s like the movie Event Horizon for real.

    • Islander August 7, 2023 at 6:09 pm #

      Why would DeSantis want to debate a politician from the other party—before either one is nominated by his party?

      They would not be competing in any primary.

      Quite apart from the fact that the Dems are not holding primaries, right?

    • Night Owl August 10, 2023 at 10:42 am #

      Because they are going to rig their primary again, just as they also rigged the 2020 general election.

  34. FGB3 August 7, 2023 at 1:13 pm #

    The essay by Gaius Baltar on Larry Johnson’s website was long and required some concentration but I thought it was splendid. I am glad you saw it too Jim. But then, after a while, it appears that a lot of us are all tuned into the same sources of Truth. I posted it in its entirety on my Facebook page.

  35. Jarek August 7, 2023 at 1:32 pm #

    RT

    Should the coup in Niger ultimately succeed, the new authorities are intent on forming closer relations with Russia, which can become a new and much less complicated guarantor of security. While China typically provides economic and infrastructure assistance to African states, as well as a guarantee of non-intervention and support for national sovereignty, it is less overt and restrained in providing specific military support to crush insurgencies, which is more Russia’s niche.

    Jarek: It’s all super hush hush at this point. Our resident Russian patriots are keeping mum too. But the above makes things clear. And yes, one of the leaders of the coup has invited Wagner to help.

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    • cowbell81 August 7, 2023 at 1:41 pm #

      Maybe if we ever stage a coup here in America Russia will come in to help us out? We would have to apologize for our errant ways in the Ukraine fiasco. Would have been nice if Russia would have stepped in with boots to the ground on January 6th.

      • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 1:43 pm #

        Why didn’t our own military step up? Our military doesn’t do a damn thing to protect America and Americans.

        Witness the border invasion.

        • Dr. Zonk August 7, 2023 at 3:28 pm #

          The US military is indeed paving the way to a restored republic. The swamp is being drained.

          Patience is a virtue.

          • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 8:13 pm #

            I hope you’re right. I don’t see it.

          • Dr. Zonk August 7, 2023 at 8:34 pm #

            I suggest listening to SG Anon, Juan O’Savin and Derek Johnson over at the BitChute. Scoffers call it ‘hopium’ but what they say always matches with what is really happening.

          • Paula D August 8, 2023 at 12:12 pm #

            Thanks for the tip.

        • Edge Lord August 7, 2023 at 5:21 pm #

          A large percentage are not even Americans. Permanent residents can and do serve (and gain citizenship). Many 1st generation immigrant children serve.
          Their allegiance is to the paycheck. Not a shared history. A past.

      • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 2:07 pm #

        No, we’re going to have to flee across the Bering Strait – if they let us. The Colony (America) is all but lost.

        White American troops will gleefully kill their fellow White Americans I’m afraid, what to speak of police and soldiers of other races and cultures.

        We’re too disunited to do much of anything at the level of the nation. Maybe regions? But only after at least a partial collapse of the System.

        • Dr. Zonk August 7, 2023 at 3:29 pm #

          “One collapse of the system … Coming up!”

    • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

      Wagner is already in Mali and Burkino Faso, both of whom have pledged support for Niger, if the US and France get their vassal states to invade.

      I doubt that the Putin government, cautious as it is, would approve of Wagner going to Niger while the spotlight is on it.

      I guess we’ll see.

      • Jarek August 7, 2023 at 2:09 pm #

        So there’s some Russian influence right there, eh? Does Wagner treat its Black workers well? Or are they de facto slavs (slaves)? If the latter, do you still approve?

        • MaryQueen August 7, 2023 at 8:39 pm #

          What a gnat you are.

        • Jarek August 8, 2023 at 1:56 am #

          What? Paula challenged me to show my source above and I did. So she seems to be acknowledging something is going on – which she wouldn’t do before.

          Now I’m broaching a related subject: How does Wagner treat its many Black African workers?

          You don’t care about human rights, Mary? Is everything a limited hangout with you?

          • Paula D August 8, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

            You didn’t show your source. What are you talking about?

            I asked you to provide a statement of Russian support for the coup. You didn’t do it.
            Now you say that you did. You do know that we can all read the blog, right? We know that you did not provide a source.

          • Jarek August 8, 2023 at 5:07 pm #

            I showed you the RT article with them hinting at military support.

      • Amman August 9, 2023 at 1:04 pm #

        Russia cautious? I guess it depends.

        If the Russian state is interested in global change and downfall of their enemies, if this is their goal, then Wagner will expand and be reinforced in Niger/Africa. But if their sole concern is localized to Ukraine, Wagner will not be going to Niger.

        As you know. whenever there are wars taking place in Europe and Africa at the same time, things must be really bad.

  36. Amman August 7, 2023 at 2:06 pm #

    “Events so dire, Sire,
    So grim and night
    That every quill will quail
    and, shaking, fail.”

    -BLACK BETHLEHEM

  37. cowbell81 August 7, 2023 at 2:16 pm #

    I don’t for the life of me understand why people are so hell bent on living and dying for their favorite sports teams (football, baseball, basketball, soccer, whatever the case might be). Yet, when it comes to cheering and supporting their home country (i.e. USA) they do not give a rip. They refuse to pledge, refuse to stand for the national anthem, etc.

    Does anyone else see the irony here? They should be kicked from the stands (read: deported), just like any other unruly spectator.

    • Dr. Zonk August 7, 2023 at 3:24 pm #

      They should be forcibly removed from a public gathering (for which they purchased a ticket) for exercising their freedom contrary to your dictates. Is that what you are saying?

      If so, then, yes, I do recognize the irony.

      • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 8:14 pm #

        LOL

    • Amman August 8, 2023 at 7:39 am #

      Is the country still worth calling itself USA?

  38. DC Jones August 7, 2023 at 2:39 pm #

    It’s been referred to as ‘fouling their own nest’ for generations. Now things are much more interconnected and complex. The aristocracy/ownership and political class seemingly can’t prevent themselves from doing what they always do, but now are compelled together as a group, including taking turns in what they always do, in what I now refer to as: “Shitting in The Well”. What they now do is not only foul their own nest, they foul the very essence of life for everybody, and they can’t stop. They must be stopped from without, because the poison they spread affects us all, and is likely to kill countless millions of us, if not all of us, including themselves.

    • Ron Anselmo August 7, 2023 at 4:52 pm #

      Within.

  39. Islander August 7, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

    An excellent companion piece to JHK’s of today:

    httpX://strategic-culture.org/news/2023/08/07/the-great-unravelling-for-all-that-is-ours-we-must-fight/

    “The Great Unravelling: ‘For All That Is Ours, We Must Fight’ ”

    By Alistair Crooke.

    Includes some discussion of Christopher Rufo’s new book, America’s Cultural Revolution.

    Crooke’s wrap-up:

    Viktor Orbán speaks to another pivot point – echoing Rufo’s call for ‘counter-revolution’:

    “If one is involved in European politics as I am – then today’s ‘western values’ mean three things: migration, LGBT and war … It is managing population replacement through migration, and it is waging an LGBT offensive against family-friendly European nations.

    “… the migration crisis clearly cannot be dealt with on a liberal basis. And then we have an LGBT gender offensive which, it turns out, can only be repulsed on the basis of community and child protection.

    “Europe today has created its own political class which is no longer accountable and no longer has any Christian or democratic convictions. And we have to say that federalist governance in Europe has led to an unaccountable empire. We have no other choice. For all our love of Europe, for all that is ours – we must fight.”

    Worth reading in full.

  40. Roundball Shaman August 7, 2023 at 3:50 pm #

    “So-called Normies might be musing… whether the mighty efforts to suppress news of all kinds… have concealed the true tendings of our wayward country — leading them to wonder whether it is even possible to be a Normie in such an abnormal time and place.”

    What is called a ‘Normie’ in today’ World is actually an Ab-Normie. Someone who has fully absorbed all the Deep State propaganda and brainwashing and gaslighting and who now fully has eagerly adopted the new Daddy State Religion as their personal badge of identity and life purpose. A World in which the Abnormal has been institutionalized and canonized as ‘The Normal’ while all the former truly Normal people have been demonized and cast out as second-class citizens or worse.

    A deep rot and perversion has gutted Western Society and the World and left an unbearable stench for anyone with a honest nose left to sniff with. Like being dropped into the middle of your local Garbage Dump Landfill and being told that this is now the Society in which you shall live out your life.

    “Eventually, the official perversion of money… leads to the unhappy circumstance of money disappearing until nobody has any money.”

    When American ‘Money’ was no longer pegged to anything of actual value (like it had been for a very long time)… that signaled a shift in attitude of a greater devaluation of everything else with it. Social Institutions and human beings were now also seen as not having or being pegged to anything of value. In short, nothing has any value. Or so the Dark State Magicians would have us believe.

    And so, if we humans no longer have any value… then, who needs us, right? The Dark Powers don’t need us for our slave and grunt labor anymore like during the Industrial Age. Today they have tech and machines and AI to serve their Dark State impulses and we flesh-and-blood humans are now just one big annoyance to the false gods among us who’d like us all to just go away. One way, or the other.

    “Our country has vested its prestige and treasure — but not our blood, at least yet — in the preposterous Ukraine proxy war…”

    Our country’s prestige? Not so much. Just a tiny group of self-centered neocon lunatics with delusions of crushing Russia and then Ruling the World for a Thousand Years (or more). Our ‘Country’ wants nothing to do this pathetic waste of human lives and American taxpayer dollars. Real America has no prestige on the line in this sickly misuse of trust and resources. Real America just wants us to mind our own business and stay the hell out of foreign wars that only serve to further enrich the already grossly-obese MIC (not to mention the K-E-Y politicians They own).

    “… enjoy the clam rolls, the surf, the corn-dogs at the fair, and all the other blessings of languorous August.”

    The clam rolls, the surf, the corn dogs, the hot nights at DQ, the grunts and groans of high school football practice, the coming meteor shower and Blue Moon in the Sky… a walk through the park when the heat of day begins to ebb… a smile from a stranger you weren’t expecting… these are the things that matter. Not certain well-known Crime Families. Not what poisons They are dreaming to shove into your arms. Not effing You-Crain (more like You CRAZY!) None of that.

    Don’t ever let Them steal your joy.

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    • Edge Lord August 7, 2023 at 5:14 pm #

      I prefer a lobster roll, but averaging $25 a pop, I’d consider a clam sandwhich… I hope that’s not a euhpemism.

      • cowbell81 August 7, 2023 at 5:25 pm #

        I bet Q’s Peter would not hesitate at that $25 lobster roll, especially if an attorney was paying!!! Remember the uneaten seafood tower story of about a week back?

        • BackRowHeckler August 7, 2023 at 8:10 pm #

          Q never reported what happened to the untouched Sea Food Tower. I hope it was wrapped up in a doggy bag and brought home. If no, what a waste!

          Yeah a seafood lunch is getting pretty expensive. Who wants to spend $70 for lunch? Add 3 or 4 Sam Adams & your getting close to $100. They’re saying inflation has leveled off at 3% but I don’t believe it.

          UAW is looking for $49 per hour average wage in their next contract, which should just about finish off Big Auto.

      • elysianfield August 8, 2023 at 12:14 am #

        “I hope that’s not a euhpemism”

        M’Lord,
        It may be, Inshallah….

    • Paula D August 7, 2023 at 8:21 pm #

      Agree, roundball.

      My husband and I have taken to counting our blessings as a ritual. And yeah, we tend to do the small pleasures in life, which mean so much for happiness.

      The only time I ever ate the deep-fried stuff you mention was when I worked the graveyard shift and a roach coach showed up at 3am every night. So those would not be a blessing for me.

      But a cooling breeze on a summer night, the sound of cicadas outside cruising for a mate, the dogs lolling at your feet, your loved one literally counting his blessings “What are we at? Number three or four?”, those are the good times in life.

  41. Beryl of Oyl August 7, 2023 at 4:07 pm #

    There are big bucks in illegal immigration, for some.

    “Good morning. It’s Tuesday. Today we’ll look at how a company that conducted Covid tests during the pandemic came to move hundreds of asylum seekers out of New York City — and what has happened since the migrants arrived in upstate communities.

    To move hundreds of asylum seekers out of the city as its migrant crisis deepened, New York City hired a medical services company called DocGo. The city awarded DocGo a $432 million contract, while Mayor Eric Adams announced a new policy that called for relocating migrants outside the five boroughs.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/01/nyregion/the-covid-test-company-that-got-into-the-migrant-business.html

    “The Schenectady County Legislature convened a special meeting Monday night to discuss the arrival of asylum seekers who were sent from New York City to a motel in Rotterdam a week ago.

    Legislators voted unanimously to give the green light to County Manager Rory Fluman to issue a state of emergency with an order prohibiting additional asylum seekers from being sheltered in the county. Legislature Chair Anthony Jasenski says the goal is to prevent further “surprise” arrivals of migrants sent north from New York City.

    First deputy County Attorney Frank Salamone told meeting attendees that migrants began arriving at the Super8 motel on July 18th. The motel had evicted its residents the previous day on the pretense that it would be closing for one year.

    “Tuesday morning, individuals that were staying at the hotel, many of whom who have been there for a long period of time in excess of six months, were notified that the hotel was the motel was closing,” said Salamone. “Our understanding is the town of Rotterdam was also not notified that they were closing. These individuals were illegally removed from the motel pursuant to the law, if they’re there for 30 days or more. It would have to in order to remove them, it would be the process of an eviction.”

    “Asked about migrants’ medical needs, Fluman responded that DocGo, the company hired by New York City to transport and house asylum-seekers, told the county medical screenings take place before people board the buses. Local care is being coordinated as needed.”

    https://www.wamc.org/news/2023-07-25/schenectady-county-declares-emergency-a-week-after-migrants-arrival

    • malthuss August 7, 2023 at 4:32 pm #

      I have passed thru that city many times.
      YIKES…horrible..Obama had a part in the ‘lets make whites a minority’ as well as many other dems.

      IOWA IS TOO WHITE said greenspans wife ms mitchell.

      The city awarded DocGo a $432 million contract..kalegeri plan / cloward piven.

  42. malthuss August 7, 2023 at 4:30 pm #

    BACK ROW HECKLER

    Joni Mitchell wasnt foold by RC. ‘The day he was released he attacked a woman and was re arrested’.

    I found this>

    RUBEN CARTER
    Hurricane Carter was known to have owned a 12-gauge shotgun and a .32 caliber German pistol. The killers used a 12-gauge shotgun and a .32 caliber pistol. Isn’t it sort of shocking that his 12-gauge shotgun and his pistol went missing in the aftermath of the shootings?

    He still had shotgun shells and pistol bullets in his car. There are a lot of things his supporters would like to just forget about, completely ignore, and quickly move past. It’s called a confirmation bias.
    Supporters of Carter and Artis need to learn what a confirmation bias is.

    • BackRowHeckler August 7, 2023 at 6:03 pm #

      Bob Dylan was fooled. He wrote a song about the guy. Crazy Joe Gallo, Hurricane Carter … Dylan had a thing for criminals.

      I was actually in that bar, in Patterson, NJ, about 10 years after the event. I had a shipmate who was from Patterson. He was showing me the sites, that was one of them. I believe poets William Carlos Williams & Allen Ginsberg were from Patterson, too. It was one of those cities you could tell had been a prosperous place at one time, maybe 50 years previous.

      3 people shot to death in Hartford last night. 3 people, what’s the big deal, you ask? 50 people were shot in Chicago, 35 in Baltimore. But Hartford is a small city of 100,000; 3 people shot in two different incidents, altho significant, barely got a mention in the local media. Why frighten the White soccer moms in the surrounding suburbs, the ones who routinely show up for Anti-Racism & Pride events? Instead, we’ll get a story about the latest taco stand that is opening on Park Street, and the Carib-West Indian festival next weekend.

      • Islander August 7, 2023 at 6:16 pm #

        Paterson, NJ, was the most important locus of the silk industry in the USA. It was known as “Silk City.”

      • malthuss August 7, 2023 at 10:30 pm #

        Rivian Owner Sees $42,000 Repair Bill For Minor Accident..

      • malthuss August 7, 2023 at 10:34 pm #

        Camden NJ–what a slum..where Caruso once sang.

        ww.henryrosner.org › caruso › caruso_studio.html
        Caruso In The Recording Studio – HenryRosner®.org
        At the Victor studio in Camden, New Jersey, he sang into a short square horn connected with the recording machine.

  43. Edge Lord August 7, 2023 at 5:01 pm #

    There was a time when “normie” was nobody more than the middle-class aspirational, bourgeoise, suburban, consumerist with a provincial outlook, and an unexceptional, mundane, and ordinary spectrum of tastes, desires, beliefs, and pursuits.

    These people are often referred to today as “NPC’s”
    Non-Player Characters.
    The characters in gaming who perform as extras.
    Not the protagonist (the gamer). Not the antagonist (the big boss).
    Background performers. Noise. Void fillers.

    Who can believe that a normie, today, is someone who believes in:

    -non-violent protest
    -comon sense law & order
    -politicians who are not brazenly corrupt
    -free speech
    -protections against pedophile grooming
    -protections against genital mutilation of children
    -protections against deviant behavior/ideas in schools
    -freedom of medical choice
    -freedom of the press
    -a non-politicized justice system
    -peace over nuclear war
    -the importance of the family
    -the sanctity of elections (I guess airlines, rental cars, and banks are recists as they demand ID’s)
    -the transience of climate on Earth (not flat-climaters)
    ?

    • mitchellc August 7, 2023 at 6:56 pm #

      So normes are now aligned with regular Russian or chinese citizens?

      How many want to live through what is being done to the west vs simply kiting off to a place that resembles the US circa 1950s?

  44. JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 7:36 pm #

    Neurodoc

    Has any work been done on the potential adverse effects of Covid or the vaxx on ears? Like the nose?

    A poster nemesis Ann mentioned tinnitus and I have intermittent vertigo since getting the virus (or whatever it is, NO) last fall.

    • JohnAZ August 7, 2023 at 7:56 pm #

      How did named turn into nemesis?

      Sorry Ann.

  45. FGB3 August 7, 2023 at 8:12 pm #

    After spending about 12 minutes reading all of the comments, of which there were well over 300, the quality thereof was pretty sad. Tit for tat stuff. Veered quickly on to Trump (always good for worth nothing). Outrage. Ain’t it Awful! Here’s what we need to do. Et cetera. Banal.

    Not one single mention of the man who is actually talking about all this shit in an unequivocal way – Vivek. Everything y’all don’t like and are miffed about, or outraged for the truly sincere…well he’s talking about it everyday.

    Vivek Ramaswamy is the Litmus Test Candidate. The degree of support he receives is the measure of the American people’s sanity and morality after all is said and done. When did a candidate ever say, “If I am elected I am abolishing the FBI?”.

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    • Cavepainter August 7, 2023 at 8:32 pm #

      I agree, but……..see my comment below.

    • MaryQueen August 7, 2023 at 8:51 pm #

      All the really cool western nations are being led by Indian WEF puppets. Why shouldn’t the US be, too?

      • Dr. Zonk August 7, 2023 at 9:19 pm #

        Is he a WEF puppet?

        • MaryQueen August 7, 2023 at 10:52 pm #

          He sued to get his name off the YGL list. 😉

          • Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 12:18 am #

            Oh yeah? Have you a source for this? Thx.

          • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 10:00 am #

            Do you know how to use the google? It was all over the news. 2 second search. You can do it.

      • Jarek August 8, 2023 at 2:00 am #

        At least they’re Indian. Isn’t that still cool?

      • Night Owl August 10, 2023 at 10:36 am #

        Vivek reminds me of the WEF Sikh in the pink headwrap over in Canada.

    • Islander August 7, 2023 at 9:17 pm #

      FGB3, ,what say you to MaryQueen’s response to your comment?

      • Islander August 7, 2023 at 9:18 pm #

        Vivek has gone to a lot of trouble to make it clear that he is not part of the WEF.

        Is he lying?

        • Dr. Zonk August 7, 2023 at 9:22 pm #

          Right. And why would he run an anti-WEF campaign if he is actually pro-WEF?

          • MaryQueen August 7, 2023 at 10:53 pm #

            Yeah, politicians don’t lie!

          • Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 12:16 am #

            You never answered my question. Instead, you just built a strawman.

            We agree that politicians lie. That is not in dispute.

            Again, why would he run an anti-WEF campaign if he is actually pro-WEF when no other known WEF puppet has ever done so?

            Does not compute.

          • Jarek August 8, 2023 at 2:02 am #

            Zonk: A lot of people are saying this – and that he got his record scrubbed to hide it as best he could.

            Maybe it’s a new strategy. As people catch on they’re having to up their game.

          • Jarek August 8, 2023 at 2:04 am #

            And he’s on record wanting even more Indian workers here. Elon is with him on this. The curse of the High IQ Cult on Elon’s part. For Vivek, loyalty to his real people, the people of India.

          • Edge Lord August 8, 2023 at 7:47 am #

            Because he was sloppy.
            The Soros scholarship winner (where’s his application BTW?)

            He forgot to scrub his association.

            Too busy building a pharmaceutical industry in China

            He’s a plant.

          • Edge Lord August 8, 2023 at 7:52 am #

            Zomk, have you been asleep your adult life?
            When don’t people, particularly politicians, say one thing and do another?

            Read my lips, no new taxes.

            When has the contemporary radical left not accused the right of the crimes they are actually committing?

            Go brush up, your naïveté is rather embarrassing

          • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 10:02 am #

            What’s my “strawman,” Dr. Zonk?

            It’s incredible how many people who comment here don’t know what a strawman argument is, yet toss the word around willy-nilly.

            If you are so far behind that you don’t understand the uselessness of US political parties, and the fact that all politicians who get to the level of national notice are corrupt pieces of shit, then I can’t help you.

            I am just funning with you because of your naivete. But don’t feel bad, many here are right in that boat with you.

    • Ron Anselmo August 7, 2023 at 10:08 pm #

      “Not one single mention of the man who is actually (((talking about))) all this shit in an unequivocal way – Vivek. Everything y’all don’t like and are miffed about, or outraged for the truly sincere…well he’s (((talking about))) it everyday.” ~ FGB3

      Go ahead, vote for Vivek, but vote hard…really, really hard.

      • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 10:03 am #

        Seriously – I can’t stop rolling my eyes. LOL.

      • Amman August 9, 2023 at 1:22 pm #

        Vivek-san reminds me another Injun – a medicine man all over tv – who does not notice vaccine issues.

    • elysianfield August 8, 2023 at 12:10 am #

      FGB,
      When did a candidate ever say “trust me”….

      Every fucking one.

    • Edge Lord August 8, 2023 at 7:42 am #

      FFB You’re late to the fiesta.
      We went over this weeks ago.

      Vivek is a stooge.

      Tell me how this nobody magically arrives and starts polling as high as second?

      This man who was awarded a Soros (the elder) scholarship?

      The man who owns, incubates, builds, and invests in pharmaceutical industries in China?

      The man who forgot to get his WEF association scrubbed before running and had to make a big show of it after his association was found out.

      The man who confided in Elon that he wants more “skilled” immigrants. The kind from India who carry no college debt and compete with American kids burdened with it to the tune of a few hundred $K.

      But yeah, fool, Vivek says almost all the right things, has no media coming after him, suddenly arrives on scene. Gets attention of the oligarch tech masters.

      He is the safety valve candidate after Trump is locked up. Put in position just in time.

      Totally legit.

      • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 10:03 am #

        Thanks for breaking it down.

      • Amman August 9, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

        Daym. So an Injun in the White House?

  46. Cavepainter August 7, 2023 at 8:29 pm #

    Nationally we’ve breached the ambiguity tolerance threshold, now triggering the “swarm” reaction toward an imposed uniformity of life expression bearing all the totalitarian facets witnessed in history. Pure genius manipulation of mass-psychosis.

    • Amman August 9, 2023 at 1:24 pm #

      Mass- what?

  47. Islander August 7, 2023 at 9:15 pm #

    Pepe Escobar on who is really running the DC “Biden Combo”:

    “Biden is, as we all know, he cannot find his way to the next room. Everybody knows that. So the decisions are taken by the combo.

    And among the combo, the visible faces, which makes them even more toxic, are the toxic trio. Sullivan, Blinken and Nuland. But the guys who actually make these decisions, they are in the back. They never show up. So that makes it even more dangerous.”

    So, Pepe is not sure either who is really behind the Neocon psychos. Or, he isn’t saying who he thinks it is. I suspect he suspects darn well who it is, but is being careful.

    httpX://www.unz.com/mhudson/nato-failed-in-ukraine-against-russia-now-its-targeting-china/

    • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 10:04 am #

      Most people know who’s behind it, wonder if Pepe’s been taking a nap for the past 5 years.

  48. Billy Hill August 7, 2023 at 9:26 pm #

    What this country needs is a good, old fashioned General Strike.

    We can’t expect Jamie Dimon’s pilot and crew to participate, but maybe we can expect the drone who got up at 5AM who delivers the Jet A to Jamie’s airport to Be Somebody. Not show up. Or the mechanic at the local executive airport who needs to sign off on the airworthiness of Jamie’s jet before the pilot will take control.

    Probably can’t expect all the power utility workers who get up at 4-5AM keep the lights on to get on board but…. many are IBEW. The Teamsters who haul all the stuff that keeps the party going likewise maybe can get on board.

    This business of the 0.001% aggregating to themselves the fruits of the labor of others really needs to stop unless we want the second French revolution. The average CEO gets what multiple of the lowest paid employee?

    If all those lowest paid employees (and all the others who think Jamie is making room for them at the top) decided en masse to Not Show Up For Work the realization might dawn on the 0.001% that their “wealth” is a function of every worker bee getting out of bed in the morning and doing what they’re told.

    What happens if all of them at once said — Go Pound Sand?

    • Edge Lord August 8, 2023 at 8:02 am #

      They build more robots

      • Billy Hill August 8, 2023 at 9:27 am #

        Ha. I think of Mr. Data from Star Trek Second Gen, in concert aboard the Enterprise, announcing his intent to perform a violin sonata in the manner of Menuhin.

        Contemplating the complex mechanics of such — forgetting the musical structures’ intellectual challenge for the moment — the muscle memory and dexterity inherent in the physics of bow on violin string represent a staggering quantity of learned motion. Motion which controls not just musically correct pitch and duration but the extra-musical subjective qualities that render the performance “human”.

        Put another way, the intelligence here is in the hands, not unlike that of any plumber or other tradesman. It may take a while for robotic master carpenters to appear.

        True “robots” can be built today that most likely via AI can take the place of humans whose primary function is moving paper from the inbox to the outbox. Some sectors should be very afraid such as government and finance.

        But today, right now, if somehow miraculously the populace should awaken to the interconnectedness of every economic input and the light bulb go off above the head that collectively there is much political power there, a General Strike logically follows.

        Dare we imagine a world in which the wealthiest denizens of The Hamptons cannot engage a plumber to unstop their waste lines?

        • Edge Lord August 8, 2023 at 9:44 am #

          They import more foreign laborers.
          Same as always

          • Billy Hill August 8, 2023 at 9:51 am #

            There will be blood.

        • stelmosfire August 8, 2023 at 9:58 am #

          Oh they’ll get a plumber no problem. Offer $5000 for a $500 job and the drain snakes will show up in a minute. Those $100,000 F-150 payments have to be made.

          • Billy Hill August 9, 2023 at 8:29 am #

            On one hand thus begins the redistribution of wealth.

            The other illustrates that everyone has a price — from Jamie Dimon’s plumber up to and including Jamie himself.

            Nothing against Jamie BTW. He’s just a convenient metonym.

            When the police turn things will get interesting.

  49. Anthea August 8, 2023 at 12:34 am #

    The garden continues to produce frantically. It’s like “The Day of the Triffids” out there. (That’s a very old John Windham novel of the horror genre, I think from the 1950s.)

    We had heavy rains over the past week, so that many, many tomatoes cracked and rotted, but I still picked about 50 pounds of good ones today, which are now cooking down on the stove to be put through a food mill tomorrow.

    I am not sure whether my daughter picked tomatoes, so there may have been many more. She spent the morning rampaging around tying up tomatoes and blackberries, picking green beans and blackberries, and weeding the carrots. We were not anticipating much of a third picking of green beans, so she was about to pull them up, but discovered that they were loaded again and still blooming.

    Just in this same morning’s work, I picked about ten eggplants, a few poblanos, and quite a few red sweet peppers–ignoring the Shisos and Jalapenos, because I have already pickled about ten pint jars of Jalapenos and frozen a couple of gallons of Shisos. Both kinds of pepper plants are loaded and continue to produce, so later is okay. My daughter picked at least another gallon of blackberries. I am not sure how many blackberries she’s picked before today, as I leave the blackberries to her. (The blackberry arbor is at the far end of the garden, and I never get that far.) The tomatillos continue to be ignored. Those have to be processed into salsa verde, and that can be a little bit of a chore. They didn’t produce this early last year, so, by the time I picked them last year, it was starting to get cold out.

    My daughter and I are both competent gardeners–not experts, like our market-gardener friends, or even like my number four daughter, who used to be a garden manager. Neither of us has ever experienced this kind of productivity.

    • elysianfield August 8, 2023 at 12:41 am #

      Anthea,
      17 tomato plants, three varieties, hundreds, or maybe thousands of tomatoes set, nothing ripe yet.

      Nothing.

      • Jarek August 8, 2023 at 2:10 am #

        Thousands of tomatoes from 17 plants? They must be as tall as trees – like the picture on those old seed packets we got. They never got that tall though.

        • elysianfield August 8, 2023 at 11:32 am #

          Jarek,

          Five of the plants are grape tomatoes, five are cherry tomatoes. Each plant set 100+ tomatoes.

        • MaryQueen August 9, 2023 at 8:31 pm #

          Mine are 6 feet tall.

      • aelpha August 8, 2023 at 12:05 pm #

        SW Michigan:
        Tomato:
        Cherry, supersweet 100- ripe for one month
        cherry, sungold ripe one month
        slicer, early girl ripe since 2 weeks
        slicer, beefsteak ripe now
        heirloom, atomic grape, ripe 2 weeks
        heirloom, evil olive, ripe 3 weeks
        heirloom, ananas noir ripe 2 weeks
        heirloom, red zebra, ripe 1 week

        5 other heirlooms fruiting yet not ripened.

      • Anthea August 8, 2023 at 2:07 pm #

        @ elysianfield:

        Some of our neighbors are saying the same thing–that they are only now beginning to get their first ripe tomatoes.

        I think there are several factors. One is that I started the plants from seed very early, indoors–most in February, but some in January. I did this mainly because I had ordered quite a lot of seeds from Ukraine, which was a supplier I had never used before, so I wanted to be sure about germination.

        Another factor is that our garden soil, even without fertilizer, is very good. My daughter has been applying goat manure from her small herd of goats for eight years.

        Besides that, every tomato plant that was transplanted into the garden got a handful of Epsom Salts, a pint or more of fish and seaweed emulsion, Tums, aspirin, and about a half-handful of Dr. Earth fertilizer in the planting hole. All the other plants (peppers, cole crops, tomatillos, and eggplant just got Dr. Earth and fish/seaweed emulsion.) Cole crops also got worm castings. Green beans got Dr. Earth and fish/seaweed emulsion when seeded.

        Last year, only one row of tomatoes got the full treatment–and none on any of the other veggies. When that one row of tomatoes went wild, we decided to apply Dr. Earth to everything. Then my doctor (who is also a gardener) told me how good the fish/seaweed emulsion was, so that was also a new addition. Then some friends advised putting worm castings on the cole crops, against white flies. (This helped, as I succeeded with cabbage for the first time in my life, but the white fly larvae still ate everything up as the season progressed.) Kale and collards always make a comeback in the fall, after the summer devastation.

        So, we made lots of changes since last year–which was productive, but nothing like this year.

        Something that might help for getting ripe tomatoes early is to plant several plants of an early variety. I always grow Early Girl (a hybrid), for that exact reason. This year I also grew Stupice (open-pollinated), which is even earlier than Early Girl. The fruits are small, but they are very abundant once they get started.

        A lot of the late-season tomatoes have a better flavor than the early ones, so it’s good to have plenty of both.

        • elysianfield August 8, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

          Anthea,
          I do select only the varietals I want. I have been growing the same cherry tomatoes for 15 years. The black grape tomatoes are new to me, only having one plant last year. The other variety is green beefsteak tomatoes.

          I started them all from seeds saved from last year. Only use wood ash, and triple 16 from our friends at Monsanto. My soil is very poor, considering it is in raised beds and never changed. I could do better, I know.

          This is a really odd year for growing…orchard was very late in producing ripe plums…only eating a few over the last week. Blackberries, which usually begin to ripen mid-June, still not ripe as of yet. Weather everyday approaching 90F…sunlight here is so strong that it is painful to stand in…probably the cleanest air in the country.

      • Anthea August 8, 2023 at 2:23 pm #

        @ elysianfield:

        To save money, select the varieties you want (and not be at the mercy of the nursery for your choice of varieties), and have winter entertainment, start your seeds early indoors. You can save the seeds of your favorite varieties, if they are open-pollinated.

        My doctor told me she uses the Solo-Cup method, which is a new one on me. I have yet to google it, but I think I’ll try it next year. This is an easier way to grow tomatoes than the method I use. I have always bought the Jiffy seed-starting kits and then transplanted the seedlings into 3″ peat pots, and then later into 5″ peat pots. (You can’t use the Solo-Cup method for anything but tomatoes, because they are the only thing that roots along the stem.) Pants need to be watered religiously and fertilized regularly.

        When the weather warms up, begin hardening them off outdoors. This will involve bringing them in every time a freeze, or even a very cold night, is in the forecast. If you’re growing a lot of seedlings, it helps to have a plant cart on wheels, so you can just roll them in and out.

        • Itzybytz August 8, 2023 at 9:11 pm #

          Anthea, your garden production is amazing. We haven’t had rain for 3 weeks now. My tomato production, well all production is slim this year. I have the same area and I got the blight on my tomatoes. So they get severe haircuts every day. I water but I spot water the plants. I use the solo cup method of raising my tomatoes and peppers. I had 31 tomato plants and about a dozen and a half peppers, romaine lettuce, carrots, squash, english cucumbers, red potatoes and gold yukons. Without rain we feel lucky that we are just eating every day from the garden. Getting back to solo cups, I use grow lights and I put my solo cups in plastic plant bins and just set the outside and bring them in when them in when frost is a threat. The plants were beautiful when I planted but right now they are sad.

          • Anthea August 8, 2023 at 10:43 pm #

            The squash bugs are so bad here that I’ve never had any luck growing winter squash–though I’ve often done okay with summer squash. I’ve also only had one year where I had success with potatoes. They are a lot of work!

    • Islander August 8, 2023 at 7:52 am #

      Anthea, I love these updates from your garden.

      Have you thought of renting out a spare bedroom to urban escapees for a week of rewarding toil in the garden???!!

      A “dude” garden.

      (Kind of like the Cuban intellectuals going off to the sugarcane fields to help bring in the cane in the 1960s . . . I think it was).

    • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 10:07 am #

      That’s pretty great, Anthea. I have found that there are not many things better than home-canned jalepenos! Nothing in the stores come anywhere close.

      My peppers are all getting there. I planted about 10 different kinds this year. I tend to dry out the Shishitos because they make the best pepper flakes. Incredible flavor. I prefer that to actually eating them.

      And like you, I have a lot of jalepenos. Also some lunchbox varieties and bells.

      Nowhere near 50 lbs of tomatos, though! But a lot.

      • Anthea August 8, 2023 at 3:01 pm #

        Aha! I will have to dry lots of Shishitos! I hadn’t heard of that! They are scary productive, so it’s hard to know what to do with all of them. Same with Jalapenos, but not quite to the same extent.

        Last week I mentioned that I’ve been told that pickled Jalapenos are really good added to buttery popcorn. I want to try that, if I can find my popcorn.

        • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 7:40 pm #

          ALL peppers work great as flakes. I mix ’em together too. Of course I have thai peppers and cayenne too.

          Can’t wait to see how hot that comes out!

          • Anthea August 8, 2023 at 10:33 pm #

            I’ve started to take an avid interest in peppers. Big plans for next year!

          • MaryQueen August 9, 2023 at 8:30 pm #

            They are the best! And whatever you don’t eat, you can can or make into flakes.

            Not to mention high in vitamin C.

          • Anthea August 9, 2023 at 9:57 pm #

            @ MaryQueen:

            I picked enough Shishitos this morning to fill the dehydrator and threw three of them into the baba ganoush. (That stuff is way more trouble than it’s worth.) So all that’s left for this evening is to can about eight quarts of tomato sauce, puree five roasted eggplants, and start the peppers dehydrating. I don’t know if all that will get done tonight.

    • stelmosfire August 8, 2023 at 10:11 am #

      Well here we have a rabbit and chipmunk population explosion. I planted beans three times and have squat to show for it. The apple trees were loaded but now all the fruit is dropping early. We had a late frost which killed off the peach and blueberry blooms. I’m waiting on a hail storm to ruin all the squash plants and tomatoes. Well I guess there is always next year. Maybe I can drop 20-30 lbs over the starving times. Mother Nature is fickle, heh?

      • beantownbill. August 8, 2023 at 11:31 am #

        What, is Massachusetts the state to live in if you’re a rabbit or chipmunk? My house is overrun with them. I bought micro clover seeds a few months ago to plant on a patch of my front lawn, but I’ve had to hold off. When I caught a bunny, I asked him why he was hanging around my house, and he said, “clover, yummy, yummy”.

        I noticed a small hole in my front yard, too. It’s a chipmunk bolt-hole. Now, just 2 days ago, I noticed a 2nd one right next to it.

        There is a tree near them that has weeds growing around the base. When I dug them up, tons of grubs ran out of the soil.

        I’m tellin’ ya, who knew the woods had so many creatures? You’d think they were here before the place was developed!

        • Islander August 8, 2023 at 2:05 pm #

          You can probably fence out the long-ears, but the short-ears (chipmunks) are pesky little varmints—cute, too!

          You should be able to trap the latter in a Have-a-Heart trap, baited with peanut butter and strawberries, but they are so small that they fall through the bottom grating when you pick up the trap.

          Then, the question is: Where to take them and release them?

          Maybe let them eat the clover, then you eat them.

          • stelmosfire August 8, 2023 at 2:57 pm #

            “Then, the question is: Where to take them and release them?”

            Totally illegal in MA to move a wild animal. Scofflaw that I am I’ve moved dozens. Raccoons, skunks,squirrels, etc. They come back.I don’t even bother anymore. I have permission to release them on private property. The farmer has hundreds of acres of tobacco 2-3 miles from where I trap them and on the other side of a river to boot. Same animals show up. I talked to animal control and was told to trap and kill on site. Nothing illegal about that. I’ve “pelletized” quite a few but my daughter won’t have that. Big animal rights fanatic that she is.

          • cowbell81 August 8, 2023 at 3:12 pm #

            To Stelmo: hundreds of acres of tobacco being grown in Mass? I had no idea! There is still a viable market in your area for this crop? I would imagine that the overseas market in tobacco is still fairly strong.

          • beantownbill. August 8, 2023 at 3:45 pm #

            I bought chicken wire, but I haven’t had the chance yet to post it. Tough on my old legs, but I’ll get around to it.

          • Islander August 8, 2023 at 3:59 pm #

            I think there used to be a lot of tobacco farming in the Conn. River Valley.

            Big tobacco-drying sheds all over the place.

          • elysianfield August 8, 2023 at 7:21 pm #

            ” I’ve “pelletized” quite a few but my daughter won’t have that. Big animal rights fanatic that she is.”

            Saint,
            An axiom:

            “…Secret crime is successful crime”

          • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 7:41 pm #

            Find out what chipmunks hate, there’s always something, and then plant that next to the stuff they like.

          • stelmosfire August 8, 2023 at 8:25 pm #

            Cowbell, lots of tobacco around here even today. Not like years ago though. It’s broad-leaf shade tobacco for the outer wrap on the cigar. Years back lots of local kids would work pickin’ tobacco in the summer. Now not so much. Lazy fucks won’t work in the heat. They import migrants from the islands and house them right on the farm.

            httpx://www.cigaraficionado.com/article/shade-in-the-dusk

          • elysianfield August 9, 2023 at 11:43 am #

            “Find out what chipmunks hate, there’s always something, and then plant that next to the stuff they like.”

            Mary,
            I think that the Saint has found that the chipmunks hate “pelletizing”

        • cowbell81 August 8, 2023 at 3:02 pm #

          Sounds like quite the infested digs there. Play mean old Mr. McGregor and make some hasenpfeffer stew out of the little guy.

      • Anthea August 8, 2023 at 3:24 pm #

        @ stelmosfire:

        Last year the rabbits ate our green bean plants down to the ground–and that was two plantings, one in spring and one in fall. (That’s why I got a .22.) No problem this year. I used to lose all my peaches to raccoons, when I lived at my previous house. Then I got a dog, which solved that problem. There are two peach trees here, and they ripen at different times. One is always destroyed by Japanese beetles. Never had a problem with apple trees, though. The pear tree, which only had about two pears on it last year, is loaded this year. Some fruit trees only produce every other year. The Granny Smith at my previous house was loaded every year, without fail.

        I’ve had some bad years, myself, what with one thing or another. I am now at an age where I really couldn’t garden without the help of someone younger to do the harder physical work. I hadn’t gardened for several years before I moved.

        For “starving times,” there’s always wild parsnips.

        • JohnAZ August 8, 2023 at 3:52 pm #

          Ha. In Outlander Jamie told Claire that he had to eat grass at times when things were hard in the Scottish Highlands.

          Mooo!

          • Anthea August 8, 2023 at 10:29 pm #

            @ JohnAZ:

            There are lots of good wild foods, but, even where they are abundant, you wouldn’t want to try feeding a family–or even just yourself–on them.

            At the house where I used to live, there were blocks and blocks of wild parsnips along the roadsides–and likewise Queen Anne’s lace. Wild parsnips are delicious–much tastier than cultivated parsnips. Queen Anne’s lace (wild carrot) is not very good. We also had an abundance of cattails and autumn olives, gooseberries, daylilies, and milkweed, along with some elderberries. There were some burr oaks around, and lots of hickory nuts. But all this stuff is seasonal and, compared to cultivated crops, pretty darned skimpy on the productivity. Some of the neighbors were avid fishermen, and one guy used to shoot squirrels with an air gun–because it was illegal to shoot firearms in the city limits.

            I once read that crabgrass was originally grown in America as a short-season grain crop, and was called “manna grits.” Settlers who arrived at their new homes too late to plant other grains would plant crabgrass and harvest the seeds as a grain. There are some other plants that produce an edible “grain” of a sort, such as lamb’s quarters.

          • JohnAZ August 10, 2023 at 10:45 am #

            The Natives in the Southwest ate parts of cactus and used crushed mesquite beans as flour.

            Yum.

            They also ebbed and flowed for thousands of years as drought came and went.

            Bottom line, the idea that everyone can sustain themselves with self gardening is a pipe dream.

        • Itzybytz August 8, 2023 at 9:17 pm #

          Stelmosfire, Anthea, here at our homestead we have fishers that keep our squirrel, rabbit and chipmunk population down. In years past I was picking green beans on one side of the row and a bunny was eating on the otherside. I told him there was enough for both of us. Besides canning we freeze dry our peppers, beets, apples, potatoes, onions and green beans.

          • Anthea August 8, 2023 at 9:52 pm #

            @ Itzybytz:

            I have never looked into it, but I’ve heard that freeze-drying equipment is very expensive. Maybe I should at least check it out to see if it’s in the budget.

            There was one year, many years ago, when the rabbits ate my entire garden down to the ground. This was literally everything I planted, including tomatoes. There were so many rabbits that every time I mowed I ran over a rabbit’s nest.

            The following spring, foxes moved into the neighborhood. This was in suburbia, where you wouldn’t expect it. Every morning when I was driving the kids to school, I’d see a fox in someone’s front yard, munching on something, which I presume was a rabbit. We didn’t have a rabbit problem for several years after that.

            Last year, like I said, the rabbits totally destroyed two plantings of green beans. They nibbled on other things without doing much damage, nibbling at a beet root here and there, or taking a bite or two out of some of the collards. I can put up with that–though my daughter is very jealous of her beets and is dismayed to loose even one.

          • Anthea August 8, 2023 at 10:11 pm #

            My daughter and her husband (we live on adjacent properties) used to have a very good old dog, an Akbash/Great Pyr mix, named Boaz. He came with the first two goats they bought, as a package deal, as he’d been raised with the goats. He was a great herd dog and a fearless guard dog. He protected the goats and the chickens, and ran of the neighbors’ cattle when they strayed onto the property–and he loved to kill rabbits. He would lie out in the garden in the mornings and evenings, on “rabbit patrol.”

            Unfortunately, he died a couple of years ago. Their ccrrent dog is a stray they took in, who looks like a Great Pyr. My current dog is a Border Collie. Neither one of them have the least idea about protecting the property or the goats or chickens, or killing varmints. The utmost they can do is to bark rather half-heartedly at the UPS guy.

            None of us know where to look for a good farm dog, but that’s often just what you need to protect your garden and critters, and keep the raccoons from eating all your corn and peaches.

        • Itzybytz August 8, 2023 at 10:23 pm #

          Anthea, we paid around thirty five hundred for ours. We had friends that looked at ours and they bought a used one for a lot less. That’s is so sad. You work so hard. We have our garden fenced in but the baby bunnies are able to get through the fence when they are young. Our garden area is only 30 feet by 50 feet and in normal years I’ve already canned a bunch of chili starter, but the lack of water this year. I keep weeding in the dust and giving my plants little pep talks, but yesterday another spotty shower didn’t drop any of it’s drops our way again. And I’m worried our ground water will dry up and our wells wont be any good. The crop farmers are still using their irrigation. Our lawn which is huge is crackly and all brown. Even the weeds are struggling. I’m thankful for the produce we eat and am able to provide fresh vegetables for my mother in law. I just hope next year will be better.
          I too am creeping up in age, so I’m glad my garden size is still manageable. Sounds like had a very good harvest. It’s so satisfying to look at all that canned food.
          I’m working on fermenting foods now. Do it in cycles, so I always have fermented food to eat. The probiotics supposedly are good for us. Anything, that keeps our quality of life better I’ll try.

      • JohnAZ August 8, 2023 at 3:49 pm #

        You have discovered the hard way what farmers have known for millennia, that weather is fickle and you cannot count on it to provide warmth, but not heat, warmth, not freezing and adequate rainfall, good soil fertility.

        Very few areas in America are good for farming, for a wide range of plants. Why Idaho is good for spuds, Iowa for corn, California for nuts and truck vegetables. Why the migration west in the 1800s crossed over the flyover states to get to the west coast.

        Personally, I used to try raised beds when we moved to Arizona. What a joke. They only thing I got to grow reliably was okra. Monsoons destroyed corn, the heat kills much of truck veggies, temperatures above 110 stops photosynthesis which drives plants into dormancy or kills them. This year Saguaro cactus are dying. There are actually two growing seasons, Feb to June and Sept until Dec., neither one is long enough to grow long ripening veggies.

        My opinion? The polar vortex is getting flaky and convoluted bringing Arctic air in when not wanted and freezing springtime plants and allowing heat to move northward so that MQs Boise now sees 100+ heat.

        A lot of the forecasts for the future I have seen says that the safest refuges from climate change are in the mid west around the Great Lakes. Large bodies of water moderate weather extremes.

        So many of our posters talk about how “victory gardens” will become necessary for survival down the road. As stelmosfire is discovering,

        Not so much.

        It has been entertaining to read JHK’s experiences in northern NY with his gardening.

        The important thing to remember is most veggies are adapted to a small area for cultivation. For farmers in those areas, Iowa for corn for example, those adapted veggies were cash crops.

        • JohnAZ August 8, 2023 at 3:50 pm #

          BTW, bugs are everywhere, maybe that is why the AGW folks want us to eat them.

        • Anthea August 8, 2023 at 11:56 pm #

          @ JohnAZ:

          Meh. You live in a very harsh climate. Deserts and mountains are problematic, of course. Many areas of the Midwest have a climate that’s suitable for growing a wide variety of vegetables, root vegetables, tree fruits, berries, and nuts. You can grow just about anything in Missouri, as well as many other states. I think the US could easily get by without California’s produce. Too much of the land in the Midwest–most of it, by far–is used to grow government-subsidized row crops, like corn (often for ethanol) and soy.

          Corn and soy are of course needed for livestock feed, but it’s over-used, even for that. Many meat animals will do very well just grazing in areas that are less suitable for cultivation, with some supplemental hay in winter. There are also breeds of pigs that don’t need much in the way of hog feed. Our next-door neighbor has some kind of free-range pigs. Another neighbor used to store up tree branches to feed his goats in winter. (They love the leaves.) He was an Alan Savory enthusiast, so that’s probably where he got the idea.

          Most veggies are NOT adapted to only a small area. You can grow most fruits and veggies almost ANYWHERE. You just have to know how. Also, there are locally adapted varieties of literally everything. You just have to choose varieties that do well in your particular area. Your best source of information on that is your county extension agent–and also your neighbors. One reason why you should save seeds is because this allows you to select for locally adapted plants. This is the way many heirloom varieties came into being.

          Yes, you will have bad years: too little rain, too much rain, late frosts, disease problems, and bug population explosions (often because of a warm winter). Most often, if some plants fail, others do well. Some years, everything flourishes. Some years, nothing really flourishes. The remedy for these fluctuations is to can or otherwise preserve as much as you can.

          Many people in my parents’ generation were self-sufficient, or nearly so. My grandmother, for example, traded eggs for flour and baking powder, which were about the only things she purchased in the way of food. It’s silly to speak of this as being impossible, when people have been doing it for generations–probably since the advent of agriculture.

          • JohnAZ August 9, 2023 at 5:25 pm #

            Joseph forecast for the Pharoah the advent of seven years of drought where crops would fail. He was rewarded for this as without the advice to store up grains during the preceding seven years of plenty, Egypt would have starved to death.

            Again, weather is fickle and counting on it cab be fatal without other avenues of escape.

            There is no way in hell that this country, with the majority of folks living in cities can ever adapt to an agrarian lifestyle again without significant violence.

            Yes, as I mentioned, the Midwest, Great Lakes and Eastern Great Plains can support a rural population. The West Coast and parts of the South maybe too.

            The cash crop for the South was cotton for a long time. In Arizona, cotton is still huge.

            Mid Atlantic tobacco.

            As I mentioned, if the moderate warming we are seeing is causing the instability of the boundary between the Westerly wind belt and the polar area, the vortex, that instability is going to wreak havoc with all agriculture in the temperate area, including the USA.

          • Anthea August 9, 2023 at 9:44 pm #

            @ JohnAZ:

            There have of course been many notable famines in the past, and there have been many cases in which they were caused by long-term regional changes in the climate, which led to a lot of regional violence and often to migrations to other areas. Apparently, that’s what happened to the Anasazi in the American Southwest. It seems that the region was at one time at least marginally friendly to agriculture, but this was followed by a very long period of drought.

            There is an account in “The Horse, the Wheel, and Language” of how long-term changes in the climate seem to have led to the demise of Old Europe–accompanied by horrific violence–back in prehistoric times.

            Re the Biblical story of Joseph in Egypt, notice that the regional farmers did store up grain, and they were able to survive. Joseph’s advice, while no doubt helpful, was probably superfluous. Humans have been storing food since the Stone Age.

            One interesting aspect of this story of Joseph that is seldom mentioned is that Joseph advised Pharoah to provide the stored grain to the peasant-farmer population in exchange for ownership of their land.

            Many other famines had nothing whatsoever to do with agricultural productivity. Henry George (along with others) noted that, during the period of the Great Potato Famine, Ireland was producing enough food to feed its entire population very well, but the food was being exported by English landlords. Henry George commented that this type of thing was the cause of the frequency of famine in India, and others have pointed out that much the same situation prevails in India today.

            While these long-term changes in climate do happen, they’re not all that common.

            It’s interesting to speculate as to whether there is, or could be, sufficient agricultural productivity in the Midwestern and Southern states to support their populations. I think there is certainly enough land. I can look around my exurban area and see endless hundreds of thousands of acres of unused land, and even more acres of land that are under cultivation, but not for food for Americans, but rather for ethanol or for export, maybe for grain for CAFOs: government-subsidized row crops. I’m not even that far from the city. Much of Missouri is almost a vast emptiness, with unused or improperly used land extending to the horizon.

            I agree that for the people in, say, Missouri, to feed themselves, we’d need a much larger percentage of farmers, and this is not a skill that you can learn overnight, even assuming you wanted to–which most of our urban population does not. If they were forced to–as in a “do or die” situation–a lot of them would die.

            I have no doubt that there is more than sufficient agricultural land. The productive potential is staggering. The amount of food produced by the very small number of local market gardeners is staggering. The amount of food that you COULD produce on 5-10 acres–and fairly reliably–is staggering. Missouri (and many other Sourthern/Midwestern states) could be feeding itself and exporting a surplus of food, but the key would be to have about half of the population engaged in agriculture, and the key to that would be for them to own, as freeholders, sufficient land.

  50. elysianfield August 8, 2023 at 12:39 am #

    Well, CFN’rs, the stats are in;

    Shot & Killed: 2,683
    Shot & Wounded: 12,508
    Total Shot: 15,191

    Ukraine war? Genocide in Somalia?

    How about the South African actions against white farmers? Naaa….

    The statistics are the totals of those shot in…Chicago under the administration of Lori Lightfoot, who ran as a law and order candidate….

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    • Amman August 8, 2023 at 7:31 am #

      That happens in one week in Ukraine.

      • elysianfield August 8, 2023 at 11:29 am #

        Amman,
        I don’t know how many shots are fired in (the) Ukraine. Considering that virtually all casualties are reportedly caused by explosives…artillery delivered, air delivered, mines, etc. the number shot may be relatively small.

        • Amman August 9, 2023 at 12:44 pm #

          Haha. To be honest, there is no fair reason for any comparison between Chicago and Ukraine.

    • stelmosfire August 8, 2023 at 10:05 am #

      Shots fired, 265,765,876. Sons o” bitches ain’t hittin’ sheet. No wonder there’s an ammo shortage.

    • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 10:08 am #

      No doubt Beetlejuice was just installed to help the chaos along.

      Anyone else notice the prime real estate most of the riots and ruin of neighborhoods is occurring on?

      • Islander August 8, 2023 at 2:06 pm #

        “Anyone else notice the prime real estate most of the riots and ruin of neighborhoods is occurring on?”

        Yes. Catherine Austin Fitss.

        • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 7:43 pm #

          That’s who I learned about it from.

          • Amman August 9, 2023 at 12:44 pm #

            Maybe somethings a’foot?

  51. SoftStarLight August 8, 2023 at 2:47 am #

    Lol omg. Normies Awake! sounds like a dreadful B movie in which a crowd of Norms becomes enraged because their usual cattle slop is all out so they see the world for what it is for the first time in their bovine existences. But seriously, like all of these people are suddenly going to get outraged about everything going on and its like hello, I’ve been outraged for a long time and crickets. And now all of a sudden all these people receive the memo and are up in arms. No. I don’t think so. I’m divesting my outrage into meditation and Zen and Jesus.

    But you’re so right Mr. K. We do need to really prepare because if and once people at the mega scale realize all of the things that are known within the inner circles now they are going to flip out. And when people get far removed from their comfort zones they can become scary and belligerent. So it is best to enjoy and cherish every peaceful moment possible.

  52. Hockeyguy August 8, 2023 at 9:21 am #

    A few normies are awake, but a lot more are still willingly ignoring anything that might wake them from their complacent slumber. Case-in-point: my (barely) octogenarian parents were mentioning over the weekend that they’re eagerly waiting for and will immediately line up to get the newest Covid booster this fall so that they can go on a cruise this winter. Since they watch mainstream news, they have ZERO idea of the levels of death and harm caused by the “vaccine” and are convinced that I’m the idiot for refusing to take it. They also have no idea that we were gaslit and censored by a fascist collusion between government and tech over all kinds of topics on a galactic scale, and my dad excitedly repeats snippets of media intelligence propaganda that he heard on the news whenever Ukraine manages to land a weak punch against Russia. I want to scream at them, but I know that you can’t de-program the unwilling, so I just nod along and hope that the next vax shot doesn’t kill them.

    • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 10:09 am #

      Very sad, and frustrating.

      Yeah you can’t wake up the willfully ignorant/bamboozled.

      Sadly.

  53. mitchellc August 8, 2023 at 10:01 am #

    Viktor Orbán: “Today’s ‘western values’ mean three things: migration, LGBT and war … It is managing population replacement through migration, and it is waging an LGBT offensive against family-friendly European nations.

    Damn, I’ve been busted, yes I’m actually the president of Hungary. LOL

    What is the one key difference between my posts and Orbán’s observation?

    While Orbán, et al continue to either play dumb or are truly ignornant about what is driving US/Western policy, we here @ CFN know the root causes.

    Once again, repeat after me: (population) overshoot, (resource) depletion and (environmental) degredation. At a most basic level, current events simply reflect competition over scarce resources.

    Elite thinkers saw this coming over 100 years ago; they represent the legacy of millenia rule. They play to win, which in this case was to incapacitate potential challenges long before anyone else had a clue.

    Or sure, now and then certain thinkers would stumble upon the truth, like King Hubbert, and that annoying political critic Kunstler, but in general even they couldn’t quite bring themselves to the logical conclusion and obvious solution.

    So here we are, with total global conquest in play following the exact strategic outline Orban referenced above:

    1. Replace existing populations of independent, self sufficient avg-high IQ constituents used to high consumption with easily manipulated low IQ immigrants satisified with barnyard living conditions.

    2. Destroy family formation by successive introducations of divisive and corrosive policies to ensure compliance with diktats issued by a central authorities that enforce limits over employment, travel, housing, food, health, etc.

    3. Engage in perpetual war, not only to manage public order, but to secure the globe’s last great stores of natural resources in order to manage the gradual shut down of the world economy and achieve the final solution: 10k elite, 10m technicians, 490m slaves.

    It’s all there operating right out in the open. Sure, you can turn away, still not believing the truth. Or, you can mock and criticize, acting the cynic while fervently hoping some savior will stride forth to restore life as so many still remember.

    Or, you say to yourself in grudging admiration “That’s some catch, that catch-22”. Now, what’s you’re fully clued into the game, what are you going to do about it?

    • Edge Lord August 8, 2023 at 10:34 am #

      I’m not sure if you have reached peak-smug.
      Every few weeks brings another self-aggrandizing dandy.

      What are you doing about it?
      Nothing, save disingenuous boasting.

      • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 7:44 pm #

        What EVER would we do without mitchellc to tell us?

    • Jarek August 8, 2023 at 12:17 pm #

      But apparently “temporary” workers – 300,000 thousand of them! – are “ok”. Hungary is a small country. This is huge. Orban has caved or he is in some ways simply a fool. You can’t separate economic and political policies. They are body and mind.

    • mitchellc August 8, 2023 at 2:10 pm #

      Hungary is both an EU and NATO member. Regime change is always lurking for those who stray too far Empire’s good graces.

      As the Ukraine situation becomes more settled, and the effects of BRICS+ and other multi-polar initiatives begin their inevitable impact, we will see the furthest satellites turn first.

      Population replacement isn’t a one way street. It only appears that way due to our short term perspective and illusion of stasis.

      • Jarek August 8, 2023 at 5:17 pm #

        You cannot contain your delight. You identify with these monsters. Kalergi Plan groupie.

        • Edge Lord August 8, 2023 at 6:49 pm #

          He has an avocado tree and a Roth VPKIX iIRA

          Totally prepared

          • Edge Lord August 8, 2023 at 7:45 pm #

            I’m not at JHK’s level of optimism

            And I’m not at Mitch’s level of acquiescence: if you can’t beat ‘em…

            I realize those in power are a few moves ahead.

            I realize they have more pieces.

            But…. unable to win the match, we can upturn the board and knife them in the neck before they declare “checkmate”
            Or after.
            Doesn’t matter.

            Their game is not grounded in reality.
            Ours is.

            Life

            This is the advantage

          • Ron Anselmo August 9, 2023 at 12:54 am #

            Sweet, count me in on the upturning the board part – shiv at the ready.

    • Amman August 9, 2023 at 1:40 pm #

      How do you know they are elite thinkers?

  54. Jarek August 8, 2023 at 12:19 pm #

    Money knows no nationality. Therefore?
    Neither do those who worship it. Therefore?
    You don’t let such people have any political power.

    Thus?

    Thus our System is out since it does let such people have power.

  55. cowbell81 August 8, 2023 at 1:13 pm #

    Green energy company Biden hosted at White House files for bankruptcy

    httpsXX://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/green-energy-company-biden-hosted-at-white-house-files-for-bankruptcy/ar-AA1eXyZG

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  56. Islander August 8, 2023 at 1:28 pm #

    Anent JHK’s “Watch out for September,”

    Pepe Escobar (linked up-thread):

    “So in three weeks, we’re going to have a geopolitical, geoeconomic earthquake. There’s no question about that. Just to remind all of you, there is a list of potential members of BRICS+”.

    • Amman August 9, 2023 at 12:47 pm #

      Hopefully not the Guns of AUGUST..

  57. Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 2:14 pm #

    Dear Mary,

    I said, ‘Why would he run an anti-WEF campaign if he is really pro-WEF?’ You are accusing him of lying and I am asking what his motive for the lie would be.

    You replied, ‘Yeah, politicians don’t lie!’ like I was saying such a ridiculous thing and you were (sarcastically) agreeing with such a ridiculous thing. That is a strawman argument. That is the very definition of a strawman argument.

    Also, you still have not answered my simple question.

    Why would he run an anti-WEF campaign if he is actually pro-WEF while no others that you compare him to have done so? What would be his motive for this lie?

    Seeking knowledge and understanding with simple questions of others’ accusations is not naïveté.

    Note: I’m not supporting the guy or saying he’s telling the truth. I have absolutely no idea. I’m just trying to understand your accusations against him. That’s not naive. That’s discussion.

    • Edge Lord August 8, 2023 at 2:32 pm #

      Chat FGB3 has done its work.

      It has since moved on, scouring the web for more initiation points.

      “Vivek 2024”

      “Shall we play a game?_”

      • Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 4:35 pm #

        This discussion has now morphed, Edgy. It is no longer about Vivek. It is now about strawman arguments and Mary’s lack of comprehension of what they even are while she liberally deploys them.

        I believe that we’d all be better served if CFN posters simply answered simple questions as opposed to inaccurately assuming to know why they have been asked a simple question and then not answering that simple question while running with their bad assumption unjustly calling the questioner “naive.”

        That’s what I believe.

        • Islander August 8, 2023 at 6:04 pm #

          Thank you.

          • Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 7:23 pm #

            Thank you.

        • Edge Lord August 8, 2023 at 6:40 pm #

          I called you naïve because you are.

          Unarmed with information, and reluctant to do basic research, you place the burden of discovery on others.

          The X/Twitter thread provided above highlights many of the inconsistencies with Vivek.

          I believe we would be better served if low-info voters made an effort to become informed rather than posting something akin to, “Vivek has no reason to lie: prove me wrong!”

          But I find that far less troubling than a conclusion that asserts that an aspiring politician has no reason to lie, no reason to hide his past, no reason to be contradictory.

          Has nobody learned from the machinations of the opposing regime over the last 6 years?

          Make a spectacle of your disavowal of what you clandestinely do and wrongfully accuse your opponent of doing.

          We’re anti-fascist! We’re pro choice!
          We don’t occlude with Russia/Ukraine!

          I don’t stand with WEF!
          They can’t erase history, nor truth, but they can erase the memories of the dim, who are legion.

          • Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 7:21 pm #

            Now you are building strawmen, Edgy.

            “Vivek has no reason to lie: prove me wrong!”

            Wow! I never said that and I don’t think that!

            Mary was making allegations and accusations against the man here in a public forum. I merely queried as to if she had a theory on what his motive might be if she is, indeed, correct. That is simply discussion as I seek the truth. That is research.

            “But I find that far less troubling than a conclusion that asserts that an aspiring politician has no reason to lie, no reason to hide his past, no reason to be contradictory.”

            Simply asking why he would be motivated to lie is not any conclusion at all. Strawmen as far as the eye can see.

            You have no idea what information I have or what I know or what I think. You just have a bunch of bad assumptions about all of that because I asked his accuser for a motive (while pointing out that it does not fit standard WEF m.o.).

          • Edge Lord August 8, 2023 at 7:28 pm #

            You should calm them straw crutches at this point

            Careful, you’re leaning heavy

          • Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 7:40 pm #

            Shame on you, Edgy.

            You know what? I am not antifa. I am not pro-choice. I am against NATO’s meddling in the Ukraine. I am against the WEF, too.

            Now do you see how bad your assumptions of me are? Completely 180 degrees wrong while building strawmen as far as the eye can see. Shame on you.

          • Edge Lord August 8, 2023 at 7:54 pm #

            There no shame in my game playa

    • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 7:47 pm #

      Nope. That is not the definition of a strawman. It is an example of sarcasm.

      A strawman would be if I claimed you said something that you hadn’t and then attacked the argument or you over it.

      Which didn’t happen.

      You moron.

      • Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 8:23 pm #

        It was both sarcastic and a strawman – as I explained.

        BTW – Name-calling is the lowest form of debate. I am disappointed. I was told that CFN was intellectual discourse but I finally get here and find that it’s just children slinging mud!

        Is it better on certain days? I hope so.

        • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 9:39 pm #

          Ironically, what annoys me most about you is that you’ve reduced the usual level of intellectual discourse here with your puerile bullshit.

          Projection, I guess.

          • Islander August 11, 2023 at 10:25 am #

            What annoys you about Dr. Zonk is that he actually tries to reason with you.

            He/she is finding, as have others, that namecalling and other forms of insult are your basic skill set.

  58. Paula D August 8, 2023 at 2:39 pm #

    Omigod. The Biden administration, without a hint of self-awareness or shame, has sent the midwife of the 2014 coup in Ukraine, Victoria “Cookies” Nuland, to Niger to sternly lecture the coup leaders there about the impropriety of the coup, with a demand to them to restore the US-backed president.

    I am embarrassed for them.

    AND, to top it off, she met with the usual suspects, no doubt to stir up some sort of Maidan redux.

    ” She was able to meet with “a broad cross section of Nigerien civil society” while in Niamey, she said.
    “These are longtime friends of the United States. They are journalists, they are democratic advocates, they are human rights activists,” she said. “We had a frank exchange about the situation here.”

    “cross section of civil society” are code words for “US/Soros sponsored NGOs which will be used to riot”.

    Unfuckingbelievable.

    .com/2023/08/07/politics/niger-military-junta-nuland-meeting/index.html

    • cowbell81 August 8, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

      Yes indeed, heaven forbid that a nation does something that is against the interests of the USA, and especially while the West is so laser focused on the Ukraine. This could really foul up that objective!

    • Beryl of Oyl August 8, 2023 at 3:37 pm #

      Too bad they didn’t keep her there.

      • cowbell81 August 8, 2023 at 3:48 pm #

        Or “accidentally” caught in some crossfire…..

        • Beryl of Oyl August 8, 2023 at 4:20 pm #

          Even better.

  59. Beryl of Oyl August 8, 2023 at 3:16 pm #

    I don’t know anything about Sultan Johnson so I have no idea how reliable any of this is, I just thought it was interesting.

    THREAD: The Real Vivek Ramaswamy

    Ramaswamy is rising in the GOP, but what is true about him? Does he have corrupt ties? Read to find out.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1688335687341187072.html

  60. Beryl of Oyl August 8, 2023 at 3:22 pm #

    This article makes it clear the great lengths that were gone to, to keep RFK Jr. from getting SS protection and to make him look ignorant.

    This is the kind of thing the MSM did to Donald Trump from the moment they came down that escalator.

    I wonder if Jr. understands that now?

    If so, it’s really strange that he has not spoken out yet on the political persecution of the former president.

    Does he believe that, in this one instance the Deep State suddenly got religion and is serving up justice?

    Anybody who doesn’t stick up for Trump, don’t come crying to me when they do the same thing to you.

    Setting the Record Straight on the Denial of Secret Service Protection to RFK Jr.

    https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2023/08/07/setting-the-record-straight-on-the-denial-of-secret-service-protection-to-rfk-jr/

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    • Islander August 8, 2023 at 4:12 pm #

      Beryl, I agree.

      This land was supposed to be about justice for all. Even those you disagree with.

      Kennedy should clarify a position on the lawfare and continued media harassment of Trump.

      Because of TDS he would have to word this and choose his venue carefully (to avoid being pulled to pieces by the media hyenas). But as a lawyer and with competent legal advisors he should be up to the task.

      Kennedy should show that he understands the process of character assassination, weaponization of law enforcement against Trump, and the general canceling that Trump has been subjected to and that he is also being subjected to. Kennedy can get this message about the the need to preserve the “blindness” of US justice out to a broader public, and more coherently, than can Trump.

      Trump must have seen something reliable in Kennedy if he tried to name him to the Covid advisory board.

      • Beryl of Oyl August 8, 2023 at 4:19 pm #

        I don’t expect him to give a full-throated endorsement of a political rival, but this issue is bigger than Donald Trump.

        • Islander August 8, 2023 at 6:07 pm #

          ” but this issue is bigger than Donald Trump.”

          Of course.
          First they came for Donald Trump.
          Then they came for Dr. Peter McCullough.

          Then they came for any and all questioners of the Covid narrative.

          Then they came for those who questioned the Ukraine adventure.

          Then they came for “climate deniers.”

          Then they came for Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

          Then they came for [the rest of us] . . .

          • Edge Lord August 8, 2023 at 6:45 pm #

            BTW, what’s your address?

    • Night Owl August 8, 2023 at 4:33 pm #

      No, not after the escalator. The media built Trump up because the Clintoon team thought he would be easy to beat.

      The McMedia began its attack in earnest when Trump was in Japan with Abe, altering a tape of the two feeding fish to make Trump look like the stereotypical ugly American.

      That was the moment that I completely lost faith in the media. The original footage circulated afterwards and the edits were so brazen that no one could possibly take them seriously anymore.

      Of course, the coming weeks and months would show that the McMedia was far more than corrupt, but rather a fully owned subsidiary of globocap.

    • jim e August 8, 2023 at 10:45 pm #

      “This land is your land, this land is my land
      From California, to the New York Island
      From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters
      This land was made for you and me”

      • JohnAZ August 9, 2023 at 5:10 pm #

        No longer. It is now made for Bill Gates and his Chinese cohorts.

  61. beantownbill. August 8, 2023 at 4:00 pm #

    @Back Row Heckler:

    Marlin, tomorrow I’ll be in CT, at Foxwoods. My wife has finished with her weekly chemo and is now on once-a-month maintenance, with only half the infusions she used to take, and a reduction of other meds. She’s doing great and wants to celebrate. Even though I hate the place (lol), I’m taking her to the casino. I’ll be there until Friday evening.

    • cowbell81 August 8, 2023 at 4:14 pm #

      That is great news about your wife, hope the two of you have a good time.

      Do they give it a fancy name like Foxwoods to make it seem even more classy? If you and your wife walk away with a big enough payday, will you invest in a CFN compound where we can all meet and live out the remaining days of this failing republic?

      If there is a seafood tower on the casino restaurant menu, please order it and let us know how it was.

      • beantownbill. August 8, 2023 at 7:52 pm #

        CB, sure, if I win, I’ll set up a safe place for any CFNers and I’ll even fly everyone of us in my new Gulfstream.

    • cowbell81 August 8, 2023 at 4:23 pm #

      Additional question:

      Is there still a signed and designated “New England Thruway” out there? Or has been subsumed into something else?

      • beantownbill. August 8, 2023 at 7:49 pm #

        Don’t know. I don’t even know if there ever was one.

    • BackRowHeckler August 8, 2023 at 6:16 pm #

      Bill that’s wonderful news about your wife. I’d love to get together, but unfortunately starting today I’m on jury duty. It’s a pretty serious trial too, a double murder. I couldn’t get out of it.

      Good luck down at Foxwoods. Before you go buy one of those megabucks $2 tickets, prize stands at $1.5 billion.

      • Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 7:08 pm #

        That is a very serious responsibility. May God bless you with insight and wisdom.

      • elysianfield August 8, 2023 at 7:12 pm #

        BRH,
        What a coincidence! I was, two days ago, served with a Jury Duty Summons.

        HOWEVER, in the progressive state of Oregon, if you are 70 years of age or older, you can claim an exemption.

        I/m so far from 70 that I can’t even see it in my rear view mirror.

        Exempt!!!

      • beantownbill. August 8, 2023 at 7:34 pm #

        Thanks, Marlin. One day we’ll get together. Since you’re on Jury duty, remember the most basic legal principle: presume guilty before innocent.

        • messianicdruid August 9, 2023 at 9:47 am #

          Judge the law, then the facts.

      • elysianfield August 9, 2023 at 11:38 am #

        BRH,

        “. I couldn’t get out of it”

        Sure you can. During Voir Dire, Just mention that you find the concept of “Jury Nullification” interesting. Ask the Defense Attorney how it works.

        THEN promise. to the best of your ability, to do what the Judge instructs.

        • elysianfield August 9, 2023 at 11:45 am #

          Or…or you can ask the Prosecutor…works either way.

          • Disaffected August 9, 2023 at 3:56 pm #

            I wonder if the can hold you in contempt (legally, that is) if you make obviously outrageous comments just to avoid being selected?

          • elysianfield August 9, 2023 at 6:01 pm #

            Diss,
            Yes, they have absolute power in their courtroom. But in asking the question regarding nullification, you have to be…sincere.

            Me? I feel that if they demand my time on the Jury, I will give them what they need…not necessarily what they want.

            Example:

            Heavily tatted Sineola Cartell soldier on trial for Assault with a Deadly Weapon. The court instructs the jury not to form an opinion of the defendant due to his many facial tattoos or his past prison/arrest/conviction records.

            Yeah….

          • elysianfield August 9, 2023 at 7:26 pm #

            A postscript;

            Just having commented on Jury duty and Nullification, I sat down at the Youtube and one of the today’s recommended videos was one on Jury selection….

            I want to state my position clearly…”I WAS JUST JIVIN…No, really, I misspoke. It was not me, but rather my evil twin who wrote that post”….

            I think all officers of the court are a great bunch of gals and guys…I’d like to buy each of them a beer….

  62. beantownbill. August 8, 2023 at 4:04 pm #

    I’m hoping that we won’t have any more vaxx side effects. Hey, depending on how soon the US’s downfall happens, I might even make it to 80.

    • Disaffected August 9, 2023 at 12:22 pm #

      I thought you were already over 80, Bill? Damn, that just makes them damn Africans all the more vulnerable next year at Boston. Good move skipping this year to build up their false confidence. We want ’em fat, happy, and cocky before you give them a good thrashing!

  63. Beryl of Oyl August 8, 2023 at 4:53 pm #

    #montgomerybrawl is killing me.

    • cowbell81 August 8, 2023 at 5:08 pm #

      The seagulls didn’t know what to make of it. A bunch of honkies and homies beating up each other whilst wearing flip-flop sandals. That’s how you do it down in the deep south of ‘Bama.

      • Disaffected August 9, 2023 at 12:24 pm #

        Yee-haw down in ‘Gumry!

  64. cowbell81 August 8, 2023 at 5:09 pm #

    The Montgomery Brawl will pale in comparison to the cage match between Elon Musk and Zuck. BRING IT!!!

    • Edge Lord August 8, 2023 at 6:44 pm #

      Cowbelll all right. Is there a distraction that doesn’t tilt your head?

      • Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 6:59 pm #

        C’mon, Edgy. Loosen up a bit, dude. Chillax. If they are going to feed us bread & circuses, roll with it.

        If one of those famous billionaires KOed the other, would you watch the highlight on YouTube? I would.

        • Edge Lord August 8, 2023 at 7:24 pm #

          The parallel you draw is very accurate.

          Instead of enslaved gladiators we have white trash with full body tattoos and cauliflower ears choking each other out in front of the weeble-wobble known as Joe Rogan. Cassius from Gladiator film fame come to life.

          Zuck as Commodus
          Musk as Maximus

          “For those about to die…”

          Is now said to the arena.
          The viewers
          The plebs

          • beantownbill. August 8, 2023 at 7:29 pm #

            And then there’s Butterbean Esch.

          • Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 7:42 pm #

            You never answered my simple question, Edgy:

            If one of those famous billionaires KOed the other, would you watch the highlight on YouTube?

          • Edge Lord August 8, 2023 at 7:50 pm #

            This isn’t a Schrödinger’s cat.

            It will have occurred in the outcome they wish if I observe it or not.

            Not as I see if.

            Most importantly, it will happen the way they say it has happened

          • Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 7:54 pm #

            Can you not answer a simple question without … whatever that was?

          • Edge Lord August 8, 2023 at 8:02 pm #

            Are you going to have young Jamie cue it up?

          • Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 8:14 pm #

            I’ve no idea what you are talking about. You ridiculed cowbell for expressing interest in the Musk vs Zuck cage natch but now you refuse to answer my simple question about whether you’d watch the KO highlight because you would and that truth would expose you as hypocritical, methinks.

          • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 8:44 pm #

            Hypotheticals between fake heroes.

            The infantilization of Americans continues apace.

          • Edge Lord August 8, 2023 at 8:45 pm #

            Zonk, this is why you’re too dull to be a successful attorney.

            Socrates didn’t allow his interlocutor to see the corner he was being backed into.

            You lit yours up in neon… spotlights… a blimp flew above it

          • Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 8:56 pm #

            While you refuse to answer my simple question lest you either lie or expose yourself as hypocritical.

            And, BTW, I thank God that I never pursued law. I’d rather my soul.

          • Islander August 8, 2023 at 9:24 pm #

            Actually I think Zonk would make a very good attorney.

            In fact, perhaps he is one.

          • Edge Lord August 9, 2023 at 7:36 am #

            Islander,

            Only you could write something this idiotic:

            “In fact, perhaps…”

          • MaryQueen August 9, 2023 at 12:19 pm #

            When I see Islander’s name, the term “Dunning-Kruger Effect” comes to mind.

            So vastly unaware is she, while she accuses others of what she does.

        • Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 7:29 pm #

          Especially if Musk KOed Zuck. I’d watch that at least twice and I’m not even a fight fan.

          • Islander August 8, 2023 at 9:28 pm #

            Zonk I would love to see Musk KO Zuck!!

            Or, dance around him like Ali until the essential dunceheadedness of Zuck is all that’s left of him, like poor old what was his name.

            Watch out for Barbie stalking in from left field!

          • Q. Shtik August 9, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

            if Musk KOed Zuck – Zonk

            ==========

            Has a date been set for this fight?

            Is it supposed to be a legit fight or is it BS?

          • Night Owl August 9, 2023 at 6:16 pm #

            I’d actually watch this moment in the global Idocracy (for free, ofc).

            I still recall seing a video of Zuckerfuck on one of his islands somewhere practicing spear throwing as though he was preparing for a real-life version of The Most Dangerous Game–hunting plebes in the forest with only his wits and a primitive weapon.

            Between him, Harari, Schwab, etc., I don’t know who makes me laugh the most. A collection of utter specimens for sure.

            😀

        • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 7:34 pm #

          I bet you’re up for the Barbie movie too!

          It’s what everyone who’s anyone is doing!

          • Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 7:41 pm #

            How much?

          • Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 7:45 pm #

            FYI – ‘Sound of Freedom’ was my first and only trip to a movie theatre since way before the pandemic. So … yet another bad assumption.

          • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 7:50 pm #

            Butthurt, much?

          • Dr. Zonk August 8, 2023 at 7:52 pm #

            Nope. I’ve been biking a lot lately. It feels great, thanks.

          • Islander August 8, 2023 at 9:29 pm #

            Zonk KOs MQ.

          • MaryQueen August 8, 2023 at 9:35 pm #

            Islander proves she doesn’t understand what wit is.

          • Jarek August 9, 2023 at 12:48 pm #

            New movie coming out about Sisterhood: The Insufferables.

          • Islander August 9, 2023 at 3:00 pm #

            Queen Mary thinks that saying “Butt hurt” is witty.

            Um,
            “The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with limited competence in a particular domain overestimate their abilities”

          • MaryQueen August 9, 2023 at 8:24 pm #

            Getting under Islander’s skin is like shooting fish in a barrel.

          • Dr. Zonk August 9, 2023 at 9:05 pm #

            Why do you try to get under people’s skin? How rude.

  65. jim e August 8, 2023 at 11:22 pm #

    Branch Covidians and no New Nukes.

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  66. jim e August 8, 2023 at 11:40 pm #

    Yahshua was never tempted by WOMEN!

    • jim e August 8, 2023 at 11:44 pm #

      LUCIFER? Maybe…

      • jim e August 8, 2023 at 11:50 pm #

        Bright and Morning…

        • jim e August 8, 2023 at 11:59 pm #

          One and the same.

          • SoftStarLight August 9, 2023 at 3:55 am #

            Who tempts you, jim e?

    • Woodchuck August 9, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

      “Yahshua was never tempted by WOMEN!”

      Scoffers will tell you that’s because Jesus was gay. And he had twelve guys following him around like a pack of groupies. Truth is nobody really knows much for sure about who Yahshua actually was as a historical person. Sources written in Greek and not Aramaic – and written decades after Jesus’s death by authors who’d never encountered Jesus personally – well – those aren’t 100% historically accurate sources. We actually have no way of knowing if Jesus was tempted or not. If he was fully human I’m guessing he was – unless he was a wimp and a soy boy.

      • Jarek August 9, 2023 at 12:51 pm #

        He said he was God. If he wasn’t, he was a madman and thus a cult leader.

        If you think he was just a guy, then why keep talking about him?

        • Woodchuck August 9, 2023 at 2:11 pm #

          Hey Jarek! Jesus doesn’t belong to you and you don’t get to define him for me. He never said he was God in the synoptic gospels, although you can force that interpretation if you like. He wasn’t crucified because he called himself God. All of the God stuff comes a lot later with the gospel according to John. By this time the popular ideas as to who Jesus was historically had been covered with layers of popular myths and legends. The real authors of the four gospels are unknown. “According to” doesn’t mean the same as “written by”.

        • Woodchuck August 9, 2023 at 2:23 pm #

          Jesus was a practicing Jew and followed Jewish law and customs. Had he gone about preaching that he was God his ministry wouldn’t have lasted very long at all. Such preaching would have been regarded as the worst sort of blasphemy and madness imaginable. In Mark’s gospel Jesus asks his disciples point blank who they think he is, and Jesus being God never came up in the conversation. The earliest books written for the NT are Paul’s writings, and they say very little to nothing about Jesus the man, how and where he grew up etc, his basic history, his appearance, etc. If Jesus had truly been God then he could have spared humanity an enormous amount of grief by writing the New Testament himself. Why didn’t he? We could have bypassed all the ghastly conflicts endured by humanity over the centuries due to Christians killing each other over doctrinal disputes – at least here in the West.

          • Dr. Zonk August 9, 2023 at 2:38 pm #

            I believe that Jesus Christ was sent here to atone for all of mankind’s sins – not on a mission to have us avoid all the worldly hassles and desires that lead to us sin.

          • Q. Shtik August 9, 2023 at 6:07 pm #

            I think Jesus is/was what would be known today as a political activist with a holier than thou attitude.

          • Dr. Zonk August 9, 2023 at 7:41 pm #

            The Son of God is holier than thou, Q.

        • Jarek August 9, 2023 at 2:29 pm #

          So he was just a hippy, biker, preacher? So why the obsession?

          You want to ruin him for others, isn’t that right?

          Who knows about the Christology. He obviously considered himself more than an ordinary man. And says so repeatedly. He calls himself, The Son. Sometimes the Son of Man. Sometimes the Song of God. Would he have assented to the Doctrine of the Trinity? That I don’t know.

        • elysianfield August 9, 2023 at 5:51 pm #

          Jarek,
          Sooo…I get my tongue yanked out be demons for quoting the Bible, but Woodie gets a pass for calling Jesus a potential Gay?

          • Woodchuck August 9, 2023 at 6:01 pm #

            I didn’t imply I thought Jesus was gay, only that scoffers and mockers might bring that up. I don’t think Jarek likes the idea of a honky tonk Jesus that liked women in every way possible. Jarek wants a virginal Jesus, a holy man and an ascetic. I’ve got nothing wrong with that as long as he lets me have the vision of Jesus more to my own personal liking. Jarek is being selfish about it.

          • Jarek August 10, 2023 at 12:41 am #

            This is boring since neither one of you is religious. Where are you on ghost guns? Are they holy as in the Holy Ghost?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 3:59 am #

            Jesus may have been off his rocker, seeing for example as he thought he was from God and mom was a virgin. Ya, sure Jeez, whatever you say. Probably why they stoned him.

          • elysianfield August 10, 2023 at 2:51 pm #

            “This is boring since neither one of you is religious. Where are you on ghost guns? Are they holy as in the Holy Ghost?”

            Jarek

            Holy? As Holy as the ghost of Christmas past…they are the gifts that keep on giving…or so I have been told.

            Me and the BATF are afraid of ghosts.

          • elysianfield August 10, 2023 at 2:53 pm #

            “Jesus may have been off his rocker, seeing for example as he thought he was from God and mom was a virgin.”

            I happen to know, from personal experience, that not only are virgin births common, but that the baby is usually black.

            Took me a while to accept the wife’s word on this, but…ok….

      • Islander August 9, 2023 at 3:13 pm #

        Woodchuck:

        What is important to me about Jesus was that by his words and his actions he showed that he understood very well who TPTB were at that time in history within the Jewish tribe, and how destructive they were of regular people/.

        The most powerful image of Jesus is IMHO taking it to the man in the Temple and smashing all the tables.

        • JohnAZ August 9, 2023 at 5:09 pm #

          When Moses asked the burning bush who it was the answer was

          I am that I am.

          I am in Hebrew is Yahweh. Until Jesus, Yahweh was never said under penalty of blasphemy. The penalty for blasphemy was death.

          When Jesus asked the twelve who they thought He was, Peter said

          You are the Messiah, the Son of the Living God!

          When Jesus was interrogated by both Caiaphas and Pilate and was asked if he was the Messiah, He answered not yes, He answered I Am. With The Jewish leadership that was a death sentence. Remember too that in Nazareth when He declared Himself to be the Messiah, the Rabbi wanted Him stoned to death.

          Think about that for a power position in Judea, they wanted a Messiah, a military one to get rid of the Romans, but as soon as Jesus, or anyone was purported to be the Deliverer, the authorities wanted to kill him.

          • Woodchuck August 9, 2023 at 6:06 pm #

            Some other people in that general time and location also qualified as “sons of God” or “son of man” etc. That didn’t imply that a “son of God” was Jahweh. The Messiah was NOT Jahweh in the Jewish belief system. Jesus calling himself God didn’t appear until John’s gospel which was written decades later than the synoptics.

  67. hustled enough August 9, 2023 at 12:26 am #

    Dear JHK Admin,
    I read your post with interest. As far as I can tell, you make a lot of predictions–how many will come true? Not many, I suspect. The major problem I have with your take on things is that you said the exact same thing about US financial situation back in the early oughts, after the financial mess of the late tens, and again, now. So, it is possible that. you could turn out to be right this time, but a little caveat offering, given your track record of prediction accuracy, might be the order of the day.

    I don’t think that Baltar should be a guiding light here. I read the post you quoted above and it suffers from some significant myopia and flaws in their thinking. 1. As much as I can accept that the West has real challenges, the way they skate over how Russia is so much more awesome-y should leave any reader asking–where is the evidence? I mean, you are seriously going to argue that oligarchs got to be were they are based on their talents alone? Seriously; even Musk–a hero for GB by the way, had to rely on some old fashioned government patronage! Quite a serious amount, by the way. Russia has a patronage system plugged into Putin. How is THAT a better system that ensures the emergence of “high-level competency” unless you mean competency = high level arse-kissing? Does GB offer any evidence for his claims of Russian superiority? Uh, hypersonic missiles? OK; not very convincing. The ed system? Who knows; he doesn’t explain why it is so much better than Western systems, even as we know that Russia scores worse than the OECD average in the PISA testing. It outperforms the US in Maths but trails in Science and Reading. How is that evidence of Russia’s awesomeness?

    2. If Russia is so awesome, how is it that it fucked up the invasion of Ukraine as much as it did in the period BEFORE western aid really kicked in? How can Ukraine possibly be still defending itself if Russia is as awesome as GB sys it is? No idea–just the unsubstantiated claim (in the dying dregs of GB’s essay that asserts that Russia is changing, becoming awesome–yet it still relies on a heavily top-down system in which people are still shit-scared to tell Putin what is really going on. Good luck with that…

    3. China–BG is more likely to be accurate–China has a big advantage on PISA scores compared with the OECD and the US in particular. That is some evidence in support of their claim; but China is a tacked on afterthought in the context of the essay.

    • Ron Anselmo August 9, 2023 at 1:10 am #

      RDS

      • Edge Lord August 9, 2023 at 10:51 am #

        JHKAdminDS

    • SoftStarLight August 9, 2023 at 4:00 am #

      I have some evidence for your consideration. Russia is eating your lunch in Ukraine. Winning is awesome. Thank you for your consideration.

      • hustled enough August 9, 2023 at 2:34 pm #

        Hi SoftStarLight,
        Right now, it is pretty clear that Ukraine does not have the capability to deliver on their counter-offensive hopes. There are a lot of reasons for that, including that the Russians are following doctrinal warfare norms in the South. So, they are improving from the first year of the war that they started. Yet, I notice with interest how you studiously AVOID the argument that I actually make. I get it; engaging that argument would be uncomfortable for you and for GB as well for that matter. And yes, thank you for your consideration.

        • SoftStarLight August 9, 2023 at 3:12 pm #

          Hi hustled enough,

          I’m not certain I studiously avoided your argument. It’s not uncomfortable for me though. I just boiled it down to its most simplistic level.

          1) Russia has superiority in terms of production because Russia still has industry and manufacturing. The US has deindustrialized intentionally and shipped manufacturing to other countries. So the US does not have the ability to face a power that can actually make things. Russia will continue to produce ammunition at a fast rate while the US simply depletes its stocks without the ability to replace them.

          2) Russia expected the West to engage in diplomacy and actually did not wish to destroy Ukraine wholesale. Unfortunately since there is no real opportunity for diplomacy with the West Russia is forced to now pursue the dismantling of the Maidan coup regime in Kiev with utmost force.

          • hustled enough August 9, 2023 at 4:09 pm #

            Thank you for your reply.

            What evidence do you have to support the claim that Russia was serious about diplomacy–unless you mean–Ukraine’s dismemberment and integration with Russia? If that is what you mean by Russian diplomacy, I think I can understand why the Ukrainians said, uh, “No.” The only person who can green light diplomacy is Putin, and he is not interested.

            Second, you and I have a very different understanding of the Maidan demonstrations. I can accept that other actors had their sticky fingers in there, but the main impetus was the desire of Ukrainians to be rid of a government they distrusted; a government that was a Russian puppet in the eyes of a majority of Ukrainians (not the minority Russian supporting Ukrainians). The fact that it took relatively little effort to dislodge the government should give you pause in the confidence with which you express your claim, I think.

            Finally, I think that you will see a re-energization of weapons manufacture in this country–the military-industrial complex will want it! So, it will be done. Russian attempts to put its economy and productive assets on a war-time footing are hampered by western sanctions. Yes, Russia can sell oil–at a steep discount. Yes, people are still buying things; yes they are having some success in getting around sanctions and getting high tech materials like semi-conductor chips… but, the picture going forward is not pretty. I expect that Russia’s economy will contract this year. There is also the spectre of inflation that I am sure very few are talking about.

            Russia’s oil revenues have dramatically fallen. They are spending resources like a drunken sailor. Consumers still want to buy stuff–that is a hefty increase in Aggregate Demand. Even if Aggregate Supply wasn’t falling, but merely unchanged, well, that sounds like increasing prices to me. And it will keep going as long as this war goes on. I expect price controls and rationing in the next year, as resources are forcibly moved to meet military needs.I read this, and treat it with a healthy dose of skepticism as it is only one data point, but consider two sites–including the Russian Central Bank: cbr.ru/eng/press/keypr/ and markets.businessinsider.com/news/currencies/russia-economy-inflation-60-percent-falling-ruble-steve-hanke-2023-7

            The Russian Central Bank: “On 21 July 2023, the Bank of Russia Board of Directors decided to increase the key rate by 100 basis points to 8.50% per annum. Current price growth rates, including a variety of underlying indicators, have exceeded 4% in annualised terms and are still on the rise … Given the monetary policy stance, annual inflation will come in at 5.0–6.5% in 2023, return to 4% in 2024, and stabilise close to 4% further on.”

            As long as the Central Bank keeps a lid on printing money, I don’t think you will see the rates that approach 60%. So, I am skeptical of that claim. But, it should be clearer by Xmas. The mechanics of this though are pretty much locked in, especially since inflationary expectations are “elevated” and apparently, running around 11% at the moment. The depreciating currency is not helping this. So, tighter interest rates, heavy sanctions that are biting, points to worsening economic conditions. Looks a bit like stagflation to me is in the offing.

          • hustled enough August 9, 2023 at 4:11 pm #

            Sorry SoftStarLight,
            I had a live link when I originally posted this, together with the “awaiting moderation” comment. So, on the repost, I forgot your handle.
            My apologies.
            HE

          • Dr. Zonk August 9, 2023 at 4:38 pm #

            You write paragraphs about the Russian economy but do not even mention BRICS. You cannot see the forest for the trees, I think.

          • JohnAZ August 9, 2023 at 5:39 pm #

            Hustled enough

            You forget one thing in your argument, the president removed in 2014 was elected in a nationwide free election by all folks in Ukraine. The West did not like the choice and did what was necessary to get rid of him. Ukraine had very little to say in the conversation between NATO, The USA, and Russia.

            The real bottom line is that the main access point in any attack on Russia through the centuries has been Ukraine. It is a dagger pointed at the oil filled Caspian Sea area. There is no way Russia will not plug the hole in that border, the function of Donbas.

            Do not look now, the US faces the same thing in the Southwest where militant Mexican groups covet the return of the Mexican Cession. With the performance of the East Coast dominated federal government, there are quite a few Anglos here that might favor the change.

          • hustled enough August 9, 2023 at 9:23 pm #

            Hi Dr. Zonk,
            In the spirit of your post: You use a sentence to avoid addressing my argument. I think you cannot see “see” an argument for an acronym …

          • hustled enough August 9, 2023 at 9:50 pm #

            Hi JohnAZ,
            When is it OK for a people to overthrow a “legitimate” government? Hmm, I remember a country that used to be a collection of 13 little entities, who decided that their leader, a king by the way, was not representing their interests. And they revolted. According to this logic, we should condemn that motley lot as well…

            It is one thing to make the claim that there was external interference and another to imply that the will of the people of Ukraine was manipulated. Again, I have to point out that the overthrow of the President (with the support of the Ukrainian unicameral Parliament, by the way), was way too broad for such a claim as you advance (though I grant that Eastern Ukraine was not as in favour of this as was Western Ukraine).

            Also, please do not forget that Ukraine did not become part of Muscovy until after 1667 with the ongoing collapse of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth position due to the Khmelnyts’kyi Rebellion and Muscovy opportunism. So, the dagger argument is what, exactly? Wouldn’t that apply to Poland as well, as previous rulers of Ukraine? I will immediately grant you that Ukraine would definitely help Russia’s strategic position. But so what? That just means that Russia finds it advantageous to invade Ukraine IF it can get away with it.

          • Dr. Zonk August 9, 2023 at 11:12 pm #

            HE: BRICS is much more than an acronym. Much, much more. Discussing Russia’s economic future without mentioning BRICS is akin to discussing the upcoming season for an NFL team without making mention of its Quarterbacks.

            You’ll “see.”

          • hustled enough August 10, 2023 at 12:54 am #

            Hi Dr. Zonk,
            Nope. You want to make the case as to why you think BRICS is a game changer with regards to my analysis as to the likelihood of future Russian stagflation–have at it. You think it is a game changer? Why?

          • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 12:59 am #

            No problem, hustled enough. Your manners are so refreshing. Honestly that is a lot of words and a lot to think about. I agree with you that Russia will undergo stresses and are experiencing stressors because of sanctions and being shut out of certain markets. But they are also developing better relationships with other countries, especially China. So in the longer scheme of things Russia may be able to stabilize itself in the new sort of order. I think that is what Dr. Zonk is speaking of. On the other hand it does seem like the West and the United States particularly are driving countries away and losing relationships.

          • hustled enough August 10, 2023 at 4:05 pm #

            Your welcome, SoftStarLight,
            Perhaps Dr. Zonk will be right, but I would want to read and understand his theoretical framework. And time will tell us if either of us got it right! Your idea might work if these other countries that Russia is engaging with help it to increase it AS (Aggregate Supply) in the short AND long run. Though the Chinese willingness to accept Russian oil at a steep discount feels more like the actions of a “friend of convenience.”

            Also, when I read about the “rise of Russia” and the “decline of the USA,” and how the USA cannot compete with Russia, I scratch my head and wonder if folks like GB who make these claims actually believe them. Russia is a primary industry based economy; the US is a services based economy. Russia is less than a 10th of the size of the US economy. The US can invest in a broad range of productive assets (including armaments as part of a mix) and Russia is in a straight-jacket building up its military capacity fighting a war that is not going well for it.

            For all the moaning that goes on about the Biden economic strategy, it actually makes sense as to what is happening now in this country economically speaking. Plenty of folks were predicting that inflation would blow out here, that unemployment would rise crazily, and that growth would go negative. We have not seen it. And a simple AS – AD model helps explain why. Looking at the spending in the first two years, we saw that AD would increase. But if you look at the spending, a lot of it was aimed at increasing AS as well (investments in green industries, for example); NOTE: AS expands more slowly than AD. So, AD increases and AS increases, so price changes are ameliorated OVER TIME (the initial surge in inflation appears to be over; hopefully we won’t have future crazy supply side constrictions like COVID bought us, so fingers crossed). My analysis could all blow up, of course, but if my analysis does, ruthless honesty requires me to do the post-mortem on how I got it wrong. It has been my experience that rarely happens here–most folks just double down on wrong predictions …

            I apologise for longer posts that I make. I have two reasons.
            1. Some ideas and arguments need analysis and evidence that makes for length and for boring reading :(, and,
            2. I do not have JHK Admin’s eloquence of expression.
            HE

    • Dr. Zonk August 9, 2023 at 2:30 pm #

      2 – In 2022, Putin had valid diplomatic reasons to seize and fortify Donbass and Donetsk deploying minimal forces (90,000 troops) in hopes of re-establishing that Russian territory for those Russian people without involving NATO in a bigger war. Those hopes were dashed. NATO jumped in and Putin, therefore, reacted.

      To put it in football terms, Russia is up 28-10 late in the 3rd quarter and you’re still questioning Russia’s head coach for his decision to punt rather than gamble way back in the 1st quarter.

      • hustled enough August 9, 2023 at 4:20 pm #

        Hi Dr. Zonk,
        Well, yes, I can agree that Putin had “valid reasons” to want to invade Ukraine (naked territorial ambition is a valid reason to undertake a war of conquest), but that does not make such an invasion “right.” Ukrainians have valid existential reasons to say “No” to that Putin desire and to fight back. And you appear to be a little coy in not talking about Putin’s greater ambition to “re-establish Russian territory for those Ukrainian people” in the Donbas region AND in the rest of Ukraine (and how Ukraine and the rest of Europe & the US might feel about that). Why is that, Dr. Zonk?

        And as for your metaphor–well, we think that we are actually in the beginning of the second quarter. Time will tell which of us has a better metaphorical sensibility.

        • hustled enough August 9, 2023 at 4:21 pm #

          Or in Poland or the Baltic States for that matter…

        • Dr. Zonk August 9, 2023 at 4:46 pm #

          I never said anything about right &/or wrong. I am merely explaining that Putin did properly deploy and then ramp-up his war effort as was necessary and that he is indeed achieving his goals while NATO, in its entirety, cannot muster enough ammo to keep this relatively small lost effort going.

          • hustled enough August 9, 2023 at 9:54 pm #

            Dr. Zonk,
            You use an argument that says–“realpolitik = valid reasons.” That is a moral position–your moral position is that “Might makes Right, and who gives a crap about the Rule of Law.” You think the behaviour is OK; I disagree with you.

            As for whether NATO can keep on going and whether Ukraine has enough ammo, etc.–let us see what Squirt does, shall we? If Ukraine is fighting at this time next year with pretty much the same positions and it is doing so with NATO support, would you agree that this claim you advance will need some revising?

          • Dr. Zonk August 9, 2023 at 10:56 pm #

            Unreal! I have provided only technical analysis of the war and never once did I share any of my morals or beliefs with regards to it. Wow! There’re strawmen as far as the eye can see here at CFN.

            These discussions will go much better if you speak for you and allow me to speak for me. ok? Don’t tell me my morals and my beliefs and my mottos when you haven’t a clue but, rather, a whack of bad assumptions.

            ***

            Yes, absolutely. If Ukraine still continues throwing its young men to their certain deaths in a stalemated war with Russia in August 2024 then I will admit that “my” analysis (i.e. Col. MacGregor’s and Scott Ritter’s analysis) of the war in August 2023 was incorrect. Like a man.

            On the other hand, all bets are off if this war expands to other countries. That, btw, is what my analysis expects between this August and next.

          • hustled enough August 10, 2023 at 12:51 am #

            Well Dr. Zonk,
            Please advise me if your technical position does not reduce to the fact that Putin is doing what he is doing because he can, given his analysis; because Putin’s self-interest is enough to justify the war in his view–that this is his valid reason?

            And if that is so, why should I not see this as an ethical position with which I disagree, Dr. Zonk?

            If you think I am wrong, make your case.

            As for whether the war expands–Let us see what Squirt does–but if Belarussian soldiers miscalculate or the Russians send large numbers of forces into Kaliningrad or across the Sulwaki Gap, then we might see your prediction come true. I hope you are wrong.

        • Islander August 9, 2023 at 8:29 pm #

          Hustled Enougn:

          You conveniently “forget” the ongoing attacks on Russian speakers in the Donbass: 14,000 since the 2014 coup. And, yes, it was a coup.

          Putin made it very clear in a series of speeches that if the West continued to militarize Ukraine and move NATO closer to the RF;s border—if there were no prospects of creating a reliable security structure in Russia and Europe, then Russia would have to demilitarize the Ukraine.

          You also forget that the Kiev regime was planning an invasion of the Donbass to start in early March. Russia preempted this plan.

          I really don’t know where youi are gettng your arguments. They ignore virtually all of the relevant background.

          Regarding the growoing RoW economy and financial arrangements, Michael Hudson and Pepe Escobar explain it all to you:

          httpX://www.unz.com/mhudson/nato-failed-in-ukraine-against-russia-now-its-targeting-china/

          Basically, the USA/NATO/EU’s plans to destroy the Russian economy and then piratize the country have totally backfired.

          • hustled enough August 9, 2023 at 10:17 pm #

            Hi Islander,
            Thank you for your reply.

            Pray tell, what have the Russians and the supporters of Russia’s position in the Donbas being doing in this time, 2014 – 2021? Are we arguing that it has purely been defensive on their part? Really? Sorry about that Malaysian Flight 17; we were just defending ourselves… with Russian military help.

            Putin also made it abundantly clear before 2014 Maidan Revolution that he believed that Ukraine was an inseparable part of Russia’s sovereignty and would do what was necessary to ensure this. Which a lot of Ukrainians took exception to–more so in the West than in the East of Ukraine, but a majority, nonetheless. And that number has subsequently grown in size.

            And as for were I get my arguments? Not from Russian sympathetic websites. I get them from historians/political scientists. Check out T. Snyder, The Road to Unfreedom; also, Weiss & Brown, Accidental Czar: The Life and Lies of Vladimir Putin (or any biography therein not sanctioned by Putin’s Kremlin). Snyder is a particularly good read.

            As for privatising the Russian economy? Remember–its a kleptocracy–large degrees of economic inequality and crony-ism courtesy of Putin’s patronage.

            Also, I looked at the link you offered: “It launched it against its own Second World War ally.” Radhika Desai makes a claim like this as Stalin’s duplicity comes to the for? Well, you lose me there! And Pepe talks about Poland: “Subcontracting the next offensive to the Poles with help from other NATO mercenaries. Forget about Ukraine, now it’s going to be Poland independently, not part of NATO because they’re doing this on their own, NATO is not involved. And then we have a different actor on the Ukrainian battlefield because the Poles, their agenda as all of us know, is to annex Western Ukraine and they think they have a golden opportunity that they never had before in the past few decades to do it.” This is A grade primo BS unsupported by ANY evidence except parroting Kremlin talking points… So, please explain to me why I should take these folks seriously?

            Feel free toengage with me on the economic analysis I offered above. Do you agree with my analysis or not? Why or why not?

          • hustled enough August 9, 2023 at 10:23 pm #

            The eco analysis is the one I raised about the Russian economy and the risk of stagflation, above

  68. mitchellc August 9, 2023 at 9:52 am #

    Good exchange @ MoA: The US is a land of vast resources.

    ***

    Was.

    It was all spent on allowing 300M adult children to live in suburbs in the most wasteful way known to man for close to a century. But now the party is nearly over.

    This is why they are doing the unthinkable now — direct military attacks against Russia inside Russia’s own borders (even if officially by proxy).

    They are that desperate. Sucking Russia dry will allow them to paper over the cracks for another few decades, the way the initial such episode in the 1990s did.

    —-

    JHK’s site deserves more insightful commentary other than personal attacks; this is what it’s all about.

    This is truly a civilization conflict – the entire world at war, fighting for the last econonically recoverable natural resources to keep the great game running.

    But it’s all over – 500 years of growth and expansion, based on a financial model completely dependent on credit expansion, actually coming to an inglorious end during our lifetimes.

    If that doesn’t make you sit back and really and go “wow”, then you probably don’t fully grasp what is underway.

    • GreenAlba August 9, 2023 at 10:15 am #

      Why would anyone sit back and go ‘wow’ when they’ve understood this for years? Bizarre.

      • Edge Lord August 9, 2023 at 10:50 am #

        “But I repeat… overshoot, resource depletion, and…”, zzzzzzzzzzzmemememezzzzzzzzzzzzmememememezzzzzzzzz

      • Night Owl August 9, 2023 at 6:20 pm #

        Mitch is the guy who knows it all; he just learned it a few years later than you.

        😀

    • tom clark August 9, 2023 at 10:17 am #

      And remember, Jimbo is 74 years old. That’s a lot of water under the bridge in his lifetime. He may not be always right, but at least he’s thought provoking.

      • Disaffected August 9, 2023 at 11:39 am #

        That’s a weird segue, lo’ t. Just musing this morning and/or possibly feeling your own age? That’s also a great crazy uncle campaign line. “I may not always be right (read: rarely or never), but at least I’ll always be thought provoking (read: scratching your head in befuddlement).

    • Edge Lord August 9, 2023 at 10:47 am #

      300m adults in suburbs?

      Facts are a scarce resource these days

      • stelmosfire August 9, 2023 at 12:29 pm #

        300m adult children to be exact? Do adult children get into Disneyland half price?

        • messianicdruid August 9, 2023 at 12:53 pm #

          “The carnage all around us has both a cause and a solution. To understand it requires recommitting ourselves to this one idea.”

          At any price? Every idea has a price.

    • SoftStarLight August 9, 2023 at 1:20 pm #

      What if I sit back and go “zoinkers”? Does this mean that I am grasping it or am I still not fully grasping it?

      • Dr. Zonk August 9, 2023 at 2:14 pm #

        Ha!

    • Dr. Zonk August 9, 2023 at 2:18 pm #

      “JHK’s site deserves more insightful commentary other than personal attacks; this is what it’s all about.”

      Hear! Hear!

      Keep ’em comin’, MC! From what I’ve seen in a few days here, your comments are the best on this board yet they are followed by personal attacks and nit-picking.

      • Night Owl August 9, 2023 at 6:29 pm #

        You have much to learn, grasshopper.

        • Dr. Zonk August 9, 2023 at 6:38 pm #

          Do not we all?

  69. Q. Shtik August 9, 2023 at 1:00 pm #

    @ Dave and Paula

    Kindly provide support for your anti-Bolton stance.

    Or is it one of those deals where “everyone knows Bolton is a maniac?”

    • Jarek August 9, 2023 at 2:24 pm #

      You like him? Why? Justify it.

      • Islander August 9, 2023 at 3:17 pm #

        Discussion does not consist of ordering people around like a troll.

        • Jarek August 10, 2023 at 12:29 am #

          You don’t understand the role of debate in the intellectual tradition. Yes, one challengers another. It’s very masculine, not to the taste of most women.

          • GreenAlba August 10, 2023 at 7:48 am #

            You misunderstand the nature of debate. It involves making a case and asking questions. It does not involve barking orders like ‘justify it’ in the imperative case, which gets people’s backs up, including non-women. You should have stopped at ‘You like him? Why?’ which would have been an acceptable tone in a debate, although no-one has any obligation to answer your every question, because this is not the Oxford Debating Society, but rather an open conversation among a large crowd of people. People prefer their debates and their conversations not laced with arrogance, I think.

            I hope that helps.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 8:51 am #

            Still babysitting Jarek?

            Speaking of debating, incidentally, I wonder if Toastmasters still exists.

          • Jarek August 10, 2023 at 1:17 pm #

            Alba: Well if someone is that sensitive, they’re not going to be able to debate – which of course does get heated.

            Almost no one can really do it anymore, resorting to ad hominems almost immediately.

      • Q. Shtik August 9, 2023 at 5:41 pm #

        I have no knowledge of Bolton other than what I have already stated.

        Cousin BK showed me a picture of two people dancing and asked if I knew who they were. I confessed I hadn’t a clue. He said it was Bolton dancing with BK’s wife the day BK got married. “And,” he added, “you were in the room too.”

        Therefore, I guess Dave and Paula would say that Q. Shtik attended a wedding with a psychopathic maniac.

        • MaryQueen August 9, 2023 at 8:20 pm #

          I would say that, too.

          Bolton’s def a psychopathic maniac.

        • Jarek August 10, 2023 at 12:31 am #

          And Hitler loved animals. So he wasn’t a psychopath – since they only love themselves.

          But there’s a lot of gray area between psychopath and not being a good person.

          • GreenAlba August 10, 2023 at 7:56 am #

            Not sure if, in some mixture of psychopathy and narcissism, you can’t love your animals, like your children, as an extension of yourself. Just ruminatng …

            Can one be evil without being a psychopath or a sociopath? Almost certainly. Man-made categories are created for convenience in thinking – they are neither perfect not immutable, a bit like science, I suppose.

          • GreenAlba August 10, 2023 at 11:24 am #

            Continuing my not particularly deep thought, perhaps the difference is that being a psychopath or a sociopath is a full-time gig, whereas you can be good today and evil tomorrow, or vice versa.

          • Jarek August 10, 2023 at 1:25 pm #

            I’d say that one can, choosing evil over good; succumbing to temptation. The end result may be to kill one’s conscience and thus become a psychopath. Perhaps they’re not just born…..

            In any case, my main point this week is that there are different levels of moralities, difference size circles of concern. I think Mr Barr is a good man – for his family and class, the latter being his tribe as it were. It’s not just universal Christian morality (or the same via another religion) or nothing.

            “Me against my brother; me and my brother against my cousins; me, my brother, and my cousins against the world.”

            Bedouin saying

            Does not the Bible say that Ishmael was a wild ass of a man; his hand against all and all against him?

  70. SoftStarLight August 9, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

    While Western civilization collapses there are Peruvian villagers fighting 7 foot tall alien face peelers. So if you think you have it bad check again.

    booboo.themirror.com/news/world-news/terrified-peruvian-villagers-claim-under-50897

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    • stelmosfire August 9, 2023 at 2:25 pm #

      Bunch o’ toad lickers.

      • SoftStarLight August 9, 2023 at 3:17 pm #

        lol

        I think they are trying to avoid licking the toads.

        oth, you have to kiss a toad to get your Prince.

        • Disaffected August 9, 2023 at 3:52 pm #

          Lanlord’s dog (big Dachshund) back in the day died from licking a toad.

          • SoftStarLight August 9, 2023 at 4:09 pm #

            Some toads do secrete toxins so not necessarily a great idea to lick them. In fact, National Parks says just say no! I feel like you save your most awful stories for me Dis. I’m sure i’m simply imagining things.

          • elysianfield August 9, 2023 at 5:45 pm #

            Diss,
            Great spin. Dachshunds are vicious bastards and will try to kill anything smaller then they (are). I’ve owned them for years. Licking? Fanging, more like it.

            Trust me on this.

          • JohnAZ August 9, 2023 at 5:48 pm #

            I am not totally sure, but isn’t curare a toad toxin and is very deadly.

          • Night Owl August 9, 2023 at 6:30 pm #

            Elysian,

            That is because they were bred to eliminate pests.

          • elysianfield August 9, 2023 at 11:16 pm #

            Owl,
            Yes, indeed. And the American Kennel Club, in it’s judging of the breed, states in it’s guidelines that scars from honorable combat are not to be considered a negative in a dachshund at show.

          • Disaffected August 10, 2023 at 10:09 am #

            Yes, SSL, you seem to bring out the worst in me. Fortunately for the dog (and the toad), no glue traps were involved, at least that I know of.

            And yes, Ely, I think the dog did in fact EAT the toad, or at least parts thereof. Dachshunds are bred to be tunnel rats, although this particular one was far too big and fat for that. He was “living the life of Riley” down there in Wahiawa, Hawaii at the time of his demise. Fortunately for the Japanese owners (very fussy people), they were already raising his replacement, whom I dubbed “Hotdog.”

          • Disaffected August 10, 2023 at 10:12 am #

            JAZ, Wiki says it’s Bufotoxin.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bufotoxin

          • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 11:51 am #

            Wow Dis, so you lived in Hawaii too for a time? That is neat. Come to think of it I seem to vaguely recall you mentioning this before.

            Yay, no glue traps!! Sometimes I do bring out the worst in people. I don’t know what’s wrong with me lol. I’m hoping one day to bring out the best in someone. 🙂

          • Disaffected August 10, 2023 at 4:15 pm #

            SSL, two and a half years as a 19-21 year old! Can you believe it? But of course as we all know, youth truly is wasted on the young, and I and pretty much everyone I knew at the time were wasted all the time, if you know what I mean. ‘Da kine’ was quite righteous!

          • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 11:41 pm #

            What is da kine?

          • Disaffected August 11, 2023 at 9:37 am #

            Pakalolo. ‘Da kine’ is the general term.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Da_kine

  71. SoftStarLight August 9, 2023 at 1:35 pm #

    30 abandoned vehicles are found at the bottom of Lake Doral in Florida. Do you think they’ll find bodies too? Some people think of the Earth as a temple and some people think of the Earth as a garbage can. Can such differences be bridged?

    beedoo.www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/police-pull-cars-from-doral-lake/

    • JohnAZ August 9, 2023 at 5:46 pm #

      And some people do not have a clue.

    • elysianfield August 9, 2023 at 5:46 pm #

      SSL,
      No bodies will be found. Have you ever wondered how the mud bugs grow so big in Florida?

      • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 1:03 am #

        True, and no doubt in that area of Florida there are plenty of alligators and snakes too

    • MaryQueen August 9, 2023 at 8:19 pm #

      Wait ’til you see the fallout from all the stupid-ass cities with WEF puppets implementing Lime bikes and scooters.

      Boise is already littered with them.

      Soon, the river, aquafers and dam basins will be, is my guess.

      • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 1:07 am #

        Yep exactly. If the batteries don’t simultaneously combust before they get dumped then they become a source of nickel that leeches out. Its like all the green tech stuff is just another category of garbage in the end.

  72. Q. Shtik August 9, 2023 at 1:50 pm #

    I think Musk’s change of the Twitter name (to X) will prove to be a bad move similar to Prince changing his name (to some obscure symbol) and for ever after being referred to as “the artist formerly known as Prince.”

    • SoftStarLight August 9, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

      omg, hate it!

    • JohnAZ August 9, 2023 at 5:44 pm #

      Think Q.

      Why “X”?

      “X” forever has been the signature of folks who could not write a signature, to posterity, they had no identity.

      Is Musk saying the same thing, that postings will be received without identity, without bias and all folks are welcome with no censorship?

      • Edge Lord August 9, 2023 at 7:18 pm #

        That shit be deep.

        I think he’s just a juvenile nerd with an affinity for comic books.

        BTW, I detest comic books
        Musk likens himself to Xavier
        X-savior
        Get it?

      • MaryQueen August 9, 2023 at 8:17 pm #

        Space X

        X something out

        X = trans

        Transhuman, he’s big into that.

      • Islander August 9, 2023 at 8:33 pm #

        I don’t like the X thing.

        It is like taking over a letter of the alphabet so that every time you see an X you are supposed to think Twitter.

        He would have done better to use T.

        Or maybe it is a reference to the X chromosome????
        .

    • MaryQueen August 9, 2023 at 8:18 pm #

      Well, the name is stupid. But if I spent billions of dollars to buy a company, I’d probably want to rename it, too.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 12:49 am #

        It just occurred to me if we are supposed to think of your nickname in a similar sense to Dairy Queen. Do you have Dairy Queens over there?

        • MaryQueen August 10, 2023 at 7:02 pm #

          I haven’t noticed one.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 12:59 am #

        …Like megabeth?

    • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 12:42 am #

      Ex-Twitter

      X is a letter, whereas Prince’s new name was some odd symbol that may have not been offered with a phonetic/pronunciation attached. Did he offer that?

      If understood/recalled, X/Twitter (ex-Twitter) has some kind of live thing called Spaces… So we have SpaceX and then we have maybe SpacesX. So at least we can’t fault Musk for a tight concept, can we?

      In any case, for the life of me, I cannot see why Elon didn’t rename Twitter to Rainbow Glitter Chat for inclusivity and to steal Meta (or whatever the new name is for Facebook) market share. What a squandered opportunity. I lose sleep at night thinking about this.

      • Burt King August 10, 2023 at 12:56 am #

        Maybe Prince’s new name-as-symbol was an actual symbol from history or somewhere that meant something? I suppose that’s possible and more for me to ponder over loss of sleep.

    • gustafson.robert.22 August 10, 2023 at 6:22 am #

      Musk’s efforts to monetize twitter beyond ads really has diminished the usefulness of the site.

  73. Islander August 9, 2023 at 2:57 pm #

    Edgie:

    Islander,

    Only you could write something this idiotic:

    “In fact, perhaps…”

    Poor Edgie.

    MaryQueen August 9, 2023 at 12:19 pm #

    When I see Islander’s name, the term “Dunning-Kruger Effect” comes to mind.

    ***So vastly unaware is she, while she accuses others of what she does.”****

    OMG, I am spewing my coffee.
    What an idiot.
    +++++

    Such nice people.
    If only they would ignore one

    • Edge Lord August 9, 2023 at 7:31 pm #

      Hey, as Meat Loaf sang, “One out of three’s fuckin’ bad”:

      -poor me? You declare in fact then immediately follow with perhaps. I’m not Q, misspellings are not my thing, but inelegant contradictory absurdity? Yeah

      -you’re right, it is idiotic to spew out your coffee

      -what is the “one” you are referencing? People? Nice people to be specific? You want us to ignore a singular nice person?

      Why must everyone pick on Bill?

    • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 1:01 am #

      “OMG, I am spewing my coffee.” ~ Islander

      Try tea.

  74. elysianfield August 9, 2023 at 5:41 pm #

    CFN’rs, and those soon to be indicted;

    Apparently, the FBI shot a killed some poor bastard in Utah after he “made” credible threats…negative comments on social media, etc. about President Biden,

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/fbi-biden-utah/2023/08/09/id/1130228/

    All you who have been talkin’ shit about our President can expect the organs to contact you…soon…at home. You may not be shot, but certainly will be arrested, probably beaten.

    Your dog WILL, however, be shot…that is a given.

    I think Biden is the best, maybe even the greatest president ever…I would like to buy him a beer….fibbies, too.

    • stelmosfire August 9, 2023 at 6:57 pm #

      EF, I’ll see your beer and raise you two chocolate chip ice cream cones.

      • Dr. Zonk August 9, 2023 at 7:13 pm #

        Fuck Joe Biden!

      • elysianfield August 9, 2023 at 11:12 pm #

        Saint,
        Trying to buy their fealty? Damn your eyes!

      • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 1:48 am #

        I was never crazy about chocolate chip ice cream because chocolate melts at a lower temperature than ice cream, so the chips would never really melt before the ice cream was finished. So the chocolate was not really enjoyed in the way it would be if it could melt in your mouth. Chocolate has to melt in my mouth.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 2:59 am #

          Chocolate melts at a higher temperature I mean.

  75. JohnAZ August 9, 2023 at 6:02 pm #

    IMHO,

    A huge con job is going on right now and it is deadly.

    Wildfires. This time in Hawaii on Maui.

    Six dead, people going into the ocean to escape.

    How the heck is Hawaii having natural wildfires, there is no drought there, no dry vegetation to burn.

    The wildfire scene is arson, pure and simple.

    By whom, who has an axe to grind, to assuage their egos, to “prove their point”?

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    • Woodchuck August 9, 2023 at 6:09 pm #

      The climate change fanatics! The forests are burning down because you are out driving and eating beef!

      • Edge Lord August 9, 2023 at 7:35 pm #

        Deyusederrgasgrills!

        Flat-climaters!
        Temperatures stay the same!
        Never fires!
        Never hurricanes!
        Never droughts!

        We want simulation land!
        When do we want it?
        After we switch to a digital currency and outlaw everything from charcoal webers to steak houses!

    • Night Owl August 9, 2023 at 6:24 pm #

      The Open Societies-funded loons were starting wildfires years ago, right before the Covid Hoax was launched.

      They have brought it back again, as they are nearly out of ammo.

      Some way, some how, they intend to get you a digital ID and digital dough that expires.

      They just aren’t as smart as they think they are.

      • Dr. Zonk August 9, 2023 at 6:36 pm #

        “they are nearly out of ammo”

        Both literally & figuratively.

      • MaryQueen August 9, 2023 at 8:14 pm #

        I like to roll the MSN headlines past myself once a day to see what they are trying to shove down our throats.

        Covid covid covid put your mask back on
        Barbie Barbie Barbie Barbie Barbie
        Oppenheimer Oppenheimer
        LGBTQs in sports x 1000
        How a mom died drinking too much water

        • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 1:37 am #

          It’s like when I land on You Tube before doing a search– all these asinine, dumbed-down videos presented there, maybe on purpose to help keep a population dumbed-down and ignorant to make them more easily controllable for TPTB. I can’t give examples like you do because I do my search usually as quickly as possible in part to get rid of the nonsense on the screen.

          • MaryQueen August 10, 2023 at 7:05 pm #

            I spend some time laughing.

          • Night Owl August 11, 2023 at 7:00 am #

            Do you have young children? If not, be happy you don’t have to spend time monitoring the YouTube influencer shite that is pushed on them.

    • MaryQueen August 9, 2023 at 8:15 pm #

      No one bought that the earth had its hottest summer ever. Good lord, I could hardly type that sentence without laughing.

      So now they will have to step it up.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle August 9, 2023 at 10:59 pm #

        It’s supposedly an El Niño year this year. Unsure what that does to the overall global temperature, but there you go. There may be more hurricanes in those kinds of years, but that’s a may.

        Over here in Nova Scotia, we had, at least by my limited, slightly over a decade-long experience, a very unusual hot, muggy, rainy, foggy, thunderstormy, windless nights, July.

        August so far seems somewhat normal, if not entirely. In the wee hours of the morning this morning, we had yet more rain coming down in torrents. Some of my garden plants got kind of flattened and soiled up as a result.

        In any case, and again from my previous comment, I have my doubts that blowing through a few hundred thousand years or whatever of fossil fuels and ‘short-circuiting’ the ‘carbon cycle’ (so to speak) in a mere ~150 years or so is doing to do nothing to the climate/planet. The question is what are going to be the effects and how are we and the planet going to respond?

    • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 1:16 am #

      I think wildfires can naturally happen in Hawaii. In fact some of the islands on the leeward side are really dry and desert like from what I’ve seen. But sure, it could be caused accidentally or with malevolence. Its like sometime you don’t know how far to go with that John. I got into somewhat of an argument with a friend today because they were saying that basically they thought this volcano happened because of a directed energy weapon or nuke and I was like you know what I can’t do this right now. I mean it is possible for something to occur naturally.

    • malthuss August 10, 2023 at 10:44 am #

      Having lived on Maui for a few months I know the summer there is hot and dry.

      Kauai is the rainy island.

      • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 11:48 am #

        omg wow. I so want to go to Hawaii at least once lol. Just to see what its like outside of pictures and all.

        • Disaffected August 10, 2023 at 4:11 pm #

          You’ll think you’ve gone to Emerald City when you first see it from the air.

        • GreenAlba August 10, 2023 at 8:39 pm #

          The only two people I know live on Maui are Ed Dowd and Kris Kristofferson!

          And ol’ Kris can’t be there for much longer. He’s 15 years older than me.

          • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 11:25 pm #

            That is interesting! And I take it you mean you know of them?
            Or do you personally know Ed Dowd and Kris Kristofferson? Do you know if they were affected by the fires?

          • GreenAlba August 11, 2023 at 6:53 am #

            Yes, I mean I know of them!

          • GreenAlba August 11, 2023 at 6:59 am #

            I’ve listened to Ed Dowd a number of times and he often says ‘here on Maui …’.

            Also I was a Kristofferson fan back in the 70s (a student house-mate who is still a friend introduced me by bringing his early LPs to our shared house!).

            I took my daughter to see him in Edinburgh when he was in his 70s and his voice was rather more fragile. Interestingly, he was both an ‘army brat’ and a Rhodes Scholar. Perhaps The Network hoped he would do something for them.

          • GreenAlba August 11, 2023 at 9:24 am #

            twitter.com/DowdEdward/status/1689667548730793984?s=20

          • Islander August 11, 2023 at 9:45 am #

            GA:

            Kristofferson was an interesting case, as noted: Rhodes scholar and Army brat.

            From what I have read (not an expert; but Docherty and Macgregor discuss this at length in Hidden History), my sense is that all Rhodes scholars were chosen for their potential to further the goals of Cecil Rhodes’s and his pals. Which was, mainly, the furtherance of Anglo-USA hegemony over the “known world.” Two of their projects were Chatham House and the Council on Foreign Relations.

            Whether the “chosen” knew the agenda or not. I can imagine that KK looked like a very good bet. He was extremely athletic, played rugby—just the kind of combo that would appeal to the Anglo elite (these details from the Wiki bio are new to me).

            What I know is that the guy was incredibly handsome on the Northern European template, and that along with his background would surely have boosted potential for the Rhodes Committee (cf. Michael Straight).

            Anyhow, when I first saw and heard him I couldn’t believe my eyes and ears! Wow!!

            Anyhow, the Rhodesies didn’t git ‘im—as far as we know . . . –

  76. Islander August 9, 2023 at 9:09 pm #

    Spectator speculates . . .

    httpX://www.spectator.co.uk/article/were-living-through-barack-obamas-third-term/

    • Islander August 9, 2023 at 9:13 pm #

      Hmm, more interesting speculations that, coincidentally, build on the above item:

      httpX://www.moonofalabama.org/

      • The Man They Call Zazelle August 9, 2023 at 10:46 pm #

        I noticed The Saker website closed up shop. It’s curious that they did in the middle of this Ukraine/NATO/Russia thing, but I guess they had their reasons.

        Dmitry Orlov, of Club Orlov ‘Ideas The Blow Your Mind’ fame, seems to be on vacation, since June.

        • Disaffected August 10, 2023 at 11:16 am #

          The Saker was allegedly having health issues with the frenetic pace of blogging, but I have no doubt that TPTB were leaning on him as well. His comment section had degraded into an echo chamber anyway. Very little dissent was permitted.

          Orlov’s relocated back to Mother Russia, but he’s always operated according to his own timetable anyway. He can be quite edgy responding to comments as well, so I rarely do. I take him with a dash of salt.

          • Night Owl August 11, 2023 at 6:58 am #

            The Saker was a clot-shot nut, IIRC.

            Health issues?

            You don’t say…

          • Disaffected August 11, 2023 at 9:32 am #

            Yes he was. A real hard head. Forgot all about that.

          • Islander August 11, 2023 at 9:58 am #

            NO,
            Yep.
            My speculation has alwals been, since he first announced that the blog would close down, that he had serious side effects but would never admit it.

            I found his blog very valuable, not only fo his analyses but also for the guest writers.

            In the early stages of the Ukraine mess, in the fall of 2013, Andrei (can’t recall last name) was connecting the dots between the Syria and teh Ukr operations. No one else was doing that.
            Early on he called out the role of the Banderista Ukrainian diaspora in Canada. At the time it sounded outlandish to me, but he was right.

            Sitreps by Jorge Vilches on the oil/gas/energy situ in Russia/Europe were outstanding.

            Andrei’s vitriol regarding jab analysis/dissent was a real head-scratcher for me. A few times he created open threads for discussion, and those threads were a gold mine of reasoned argument and information such as it stood at the time. But he himself responded like a madman!

            So, my take is that he already had health issues, he got the clot shots, he became unable to continue, but wouldn’t admit that he was wrong.

            BTW, in other areas he was quite willing to admit that his earlier predictions had been wrong, and why. He was also adamant in prohibiting any proselytizing for homosexuality on his blog.

            Well, time marches on, and probably no one will read this comment, since i guess JHK has a new post up by now!!

    • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 1:26 am #

      Somebody said that the Big Guy is none other than Barack Obama himself. Think about that! And even more, Joe has all kinds of stuff on Barack and the whole regime that he sorta has hanging over their heads. But at the same time, Barack has Joe in a corner because Barack is the one who allows Joe to be anybody with all the dirt they all have on Joe and the Biden syndicate.

      • Islander August 10, 2023 at 7:21 am #

        I speculated awhile ago that Obama could well be the “Bigger” Guy—where the hell did the $70 mill come from that the community organizer is said now to possess? The MV mansion alone was north of $11 mill.

        And, yes, you are quite right that these two must have a hell of a lot on each other. Obma has to known about the Bidens’ Ukraine grift when his VP was the bag—I mean, point man for the USA’s Ukraine “diplomacy” and under-the-table footsie feeling with the oligarchs.

        • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 11:46 am #

          Yeah. Dan Bongino said that Obama knows about all of Joe’s grifting and vice versa. And a lot of this stuff goes back to Obama’s presidency. It seems like everyone in politics, or virtually everyone, gets rich quick. Look at AOC. She is already a millionaire too. The whole thing is a essentially a scam and a con.

          • Skeptical Mouse August 10, 2023 at 7:29 pm #

            Look at AOC. She is already a millionaire too.

            Where’s your source for this, SSL? All I can find is that she’s got a net worth of $16,000. Who dropped the last two zeros?

          • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 11:20 pm #

            Her office has a million dollar budget. She personally is in the top five percent of Americans in terms of income levels and is on track to be a millionaire by the time she is 40. And this is all just what is on the books so to speak

            ..financialsamurai.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-income-is-in-the-top-5-percent/

  77. The Man They Call Zazelle August 9, 2023 at 10:39 pm #

    It’s supposedly an El Niño year this year.

    Do El Niño years have more forest fires and/or other different things? Maybe, possibly, especially in some areas.
    Will some people blame the fires on climate change, rather than an El Niño year?
    Possibly, maybe likely, such as as part of a ‘controlled’ (so to speak) demolition, in keeping with increasing energy constraints, specifically or especially related to oil and its related geopolitics.

    I mean, if we’re going to demolish a civilization, it might as well be controlled, yes? Or at least that’s a thought, rather like, if you wipe out on your bike or motorcycle, it might as well be as controlled as possible, yes?, as opposed to a road rash, skin-shred, helmet-cracking, bone-breaking tumble across some distance over the pavement?

    But is there such a thing as anthropogenic climate change, such as from the rampant burning, over the past ~150 years, of fossil fuels? Sure why not? Do you think that doing that is going to have no effects whatsoever? I hope not.

    Can we do anything about it? Well what does that mean exactly? Who does what about it and why? And what is it they do? Should we ask the World Economic Forum?

    What are you doing about it?

    Hoarding? Learning to live within your ‘classical’ means, like our ancestors? Writing stuff about it to others online? Creating an alternative society? So that we can transcend what TPTB or WEF or who/whatever don’t make the decisions for us? And help write our lives for us?

    Do we know how to grow our own food, and/or recognize it in the wild? And/Or do we know how to build our own houses? And/Or do we know how to make our own clothes? And/Or are we a part of some kind of society, maybe very local, who can do some of those things in complementary exchange for what we can do along those lines? How well do we know our neighbours?

    Better than we think we know Joe Biden or Kamala Harris or whoever like them?

    BTW, my lemon verbena clippings so far seem to be doing ok, what with new leaf growth. I planted them opposite to each other on the inside sides of the transparent plastic ex-peanut-butter container so that I might see some roots as well. No new root system seen yet, despite the new leaves, but since I can only see a part of the stem under the soil, it’s hard to tell. Maybe soon, some will show.

    • Qwibqwib August 10, 2023 at 5:21 am #

      1) “is there such a thing as anthropogenic climate change” – Likely not. The Tonga volcano eruption in 2022 produced as much C02 in a few days, as the entire Earth does in a year. (Double you double you double you dot english.cas.cn/newsroom/research_news/ tech/ 202202/t20220218_300957 dot com).

      Then there is the whole hide the decline scandal that TPTB would like to sweep under the rug. Also, all the predictions of death and gloom and doom that never panned out.

      Solar minimums and maximums and their cycles do a FAR better job of explaining changing climate. Check out Valentina Zharkova to start, for more on this…

      2) We shouldn’t bother trying to influence the climate. We cannot. it will do what it is going to do, regardless of our “inputs” which are a drop of water into the Ocean.

      This whole movie TPTB wants us to be a part of is completely contrived. It is fundamentally a scam to steal money through fraudulent taxation.

      3) The proper thing to do is to resist any and all attempts to “write our lives for us”. Hoarding is a negative word. Why do you choose this word?

      4) I grow my own food. I am Irish, so I grow potatoes! 😀 Also carrots, peppers, cucumbers, strawberries, raspberries, blueberries, blackberries, sunflower seeds, watermelons, pumpkins. As well as, squash, corn and beans.

      I also have a small orchard of plum trees. Future plans involve apple trees also. I am going to start making cider.

      5) The three sisters! Look it up! It is a perfect way to naturally control pests!

      “The Iroquois and the Cherokee called corn, beans, and squash “the three sisters” because they nurture each other like family when planted together. These agriculturalists placed corn in small hills planting beans around them and interspersing squash throughout of the field.” from wiki…

      6) I don’t know what you mean about “we” growing food. Is that kinda like “let’s you and Her grow some food so “we” can eat? If you don’t work, you don’t eat, it’s that simple.

      7) I am a Master Electrician so yes, I know how to build. Again with this we stuff. What is up with the “we” and “our”?

      My neighbors are much older and retired. I shovel their sidewalks and driveways on occasion. We have pets. 1 dog and 7 cats (1 Mom and 6 kittens). They don’t like that, but they are nice enough. They will need help if society fails for sure.

      • Qwibqwib August 10, 2023 at 5:27 am #

        Anyone want kitten? 😀

        • Disaffected August 10, 2023 at 11:50 am #

          Any calicos?

      • Qwibqwib August 10, 2023 at 5:38 am #

        Funny, I typed in a search to google. The query was worded thusly: “How much Co2 does a volcano emit during an eruption”.

        Ten pages of results were basically there to reinforce the climate religion. Ten whole pages of results basically said the same thing. Each page had numerous variations of this statement: “Humans cause much more Co2 emissions than volcanos”.

        None of those pages answered the question. I had to scroll down through page after page of duplicate propaganda. Sometimes when I do a google search, I just automatically click next page several times, because the first few pages are ALL propaganda.

      • Anthea August 10, 2023 at 6:15 am #

        @ Qwibqwib:

        Very well said. Anthropogenic climate change is bullshit. All the dire predictions of the past 30 or so years have failed to materialize. All the climate change data has been shown to have been phonied up. Energy constraints are also largely bullshit. I understand that the US has 500+ years worth of coal. Russia seems to have plenty of oil.

        To me, this indicates that the demolition of civilization, and the efforts of the PTB to undercut modern economies and reduce our living conditions to those that prevailed in the 1800s or before, don’t really have anything to do with resource constraints.

        So, what exactly DOES it have to do with? Sometimes I think it may just be the PTB’s hatred for human life.

        As for the, “What are we going to do about it?” part, you nailed that, too. We’ll go on creating, growing, and building life’s necessities of food, clothing, and shelter. If the ability to do this is denied us by the PTB, we’ll do what we’ve always done in similar cases: resist, flle, or die.

        • stelmosfire August 10, 2023 at 8:05 am #

          “I understand that the US has 500+ years worth of coal. ”

          All that coal is convertible to liquid fuels for trucks, planes, cars, whatever. Hundreds of thousands of barrels a day are currently synthesized from coal. China is pretty big on it because they could give a shit about the USA’s existential “We’re all gonna die!” CO2 BS. It’s old tech and is improving all the time. USA is the king of coal. When Kerry needs jet fuel he’s not going to care how or where it comes from.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 8:22 am #

            What’s the EROEI of coal and compared to various forms of oil insofar as what they can currently pull out of the ground? How does society transition to coal, and/or are you suggesting that it already has or is doing so?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 8:23 am #

            Oh, and what’s the EROEI of those coal-to-liquid fuels?

          • stelmosfire August 10, 2023 at 9:38 am #

            No clue on the EROEI or cost but just sayin’ fuel will be available for anyone that can pay.

            httpx://oilprice.com/Energy/Coal/Coal-To-Liquid-Fuel-Could-Become-Much-Cheaper.html

          • Islander August 10, 2023 at 9:39 am #

            St. Elmo, right.

            Synthetic fuel 1:

            “In 1913, German scientist Friedrich Bergius developed a hydrogenation process for producing synthetic oil from coal dust. Twelve years later, his countrymen, Franz Fisher and Hans Tropsch, developed a process for converting a mixture of carbon monoxide and hydrogen into liquid hydrocarbons.Dec 26, 2019”

            Synthetic fuel 2:

            More than 92 percent of Germany’s aviation gasoline and half its total petroleum ***during World War II*** came from synthetic fuel plants. At its peak in early 1944, the German synfuels effort produced more than 124,000 barrels per day from 25 plants.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 10:47 am #

            It takes energy to get energy. folks.

            Sure, we’ll have energy for a long time to come, just maybe not as much of it as our civilization is used to or as much of the kinds it is built to handle. This too is unless we can get fusion to work or maybe safer fission, but even then.

          • elysianfield August 10, 2023 at 2:45 pm #

            “ore than 92 percent of Germany’s aviation gasoline and half its total petroleum ***during World War II*** came from synthetic fuel plants. At its peak in early 1944, the German synfuels effort produced more than 124,000 barrels per day from 25 plants.

            Saint, Islander, et al”

            Bonus points…where was it produced?

            Anybody?

            Anybody?

            Bueller?

      • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 8:30 am #

        What do volcanoes have to do with climate change?

        “Volcanic eruptions are often discussed in relation to climate change because they release CO2 (and other gases) into our atmosphere. However, human contributions to the carbon cycle are more than 100 times those from all the volcanoes in the world – combined.

        In comparison, while volcanic eruptions do cause an increase in atmospheric CO2, human activities emit a Mount St. Helens-sized eruption of CO2 every 2.5 hours and a Mount Pinatubo-sized eruption of CO2 twice daily.

        The largest possible eruptions come from super volcanoes like Yellowstone or Mount Toba (which erupt very rarely, about every 100,000 to 200,000 years or more), but the total annual CO2 emissions from human activities is like one or more Yellowstone-sized super eruptions going off every year.

        Essentially, CO2 emissions from human activities dwarf those of volcanoes.” ~ climate.nasa.gov/faq/42/what-do-volcanoes-have-to-do-with-climate-change/

        • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 8:31 am #

          I have many tabs open that pretty much confirm that link, so we’ll keep it short and sweet.

        • Islander August 10, 2023 at 9:42 am #

          Volcanoes have nothing to do with “climate change,” which is a social and political construct.

          Volcanoes are a fact of geological life on earth, with various effects on Earth’s systems.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 10:09 am #

            Qwibquib:

            ” ‘is there such a thing as anthropogenic climate change’ – Likely not. The Tonga volcano eruption in 2022 produced as much C02 in a few days, as the entire Earth does in a year.

            NASA’s article:

            “Volcanic eruptions are often discussed in relation to climate change because they release CO2 (and other gases) into our atmosphere. However, human contributions to the carbon cycle are more than 100 times those from all the volcanoes in the world – combined.

          • Anthea August 10, 2023 at 10:17 am #

            Well, perhaps even more to the point, CO2 is not a great contributor to global warming in the first place. In the second place, high levels of CO2 are beneficial to plant life. High levels of CO2 are a GOOD thing. In the third place, CO2 levels on earth have very often been much higher than they are today. If I remember right, current CO2 levels are now at historic lows, compared to the past.

            If the earth is warming (which is doubtful), it’s not because of CO2. There are a number of reputable scientists who say that it is far more likely that we are entering a solar minimum.

            There was an article on tickerform awhile back that quoted a study showing that there had been a massive ice-melt in the Antartic Sea–which is “a sigma change that is beyond any sort of human intervention we could generate even if we tried to deliberately, such as by taking every single nuclear weapon we possess as humans on this planet and setting them off all at once in Antarctica.” It can’t be explained by either human activity or by energy from the sun. There are only two possible explanations. Either the earth’s core is generating this heat, or the so-called “data” is a lie. httpx://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=249154.

            I figure it’s probably a pure lie, like everything else related to AGW. (It’s been shown over and over that AGW proponents fake their data.)

          • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 10:19 am #

            Volcanoes have nothing to do with ‘climate change’, which is a social and political construct.

            Volcanoes are a fact of geological life on earth, with various effects on Earth’s systems.” ~ Islander

            Tell that to Qwibqwib. You’re talking to the wrong guy.

          • Islander August 10, 2023 at 10:33 am #

            Zaz wrote:

            “What do volcanoes have to do with climate change?”

          • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 10:34 am #

            Anthea, as I’ve previously suggested, if, to quote, ‘human contributions to the carbon cycle are more than 100 times those from all the volcanoes in the world – combined’, it would seem to stand to reason that there are likely to be effects to the climate.

            At the same time, however, let’s not confuse any agreement with ‘potential and/or actual anthropogenic effects’ with a political stand that we can do anything about it at this point.

            In any case, whether we agree or not, if governments, along with their WEF and related cronies get their way, we may likely be dragged along in some political process anyway– like we were with covid.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 10:35 am #

            Islander, that was the NASA article’s header, not mine.

          • Islander August 10, 2023 at 12:27 pm #

            Zaz:

            Not my problem.

          • Jarek August 10, 2023 at 1:35 pm #

            The Summarizer

            The year 1816 is known as the Year Without a Summer due to severe climate abnormalities that caused average global temperatures to decrease by 0.4–0.7 °C (0.7–1 °F). Summer temperatures in Europe were the coldest on record between the years of 1766 and 2000. The climatic aberrations had their greatest effect on most of New England, Atlantic Canada, and parts of western Europe.0 Crops were killed either by frost or a lack of sunshine, causing food to be scarce, and farmers who were able to grow crops to fear that they would be robbed. The lack of successful crops that summer made the food which was grown more valuable, and the price of food climbed.1 The primary cause of the Year Without a Summer was the dust from the 1815 eruption of Mount Tambora in the Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia), which caused a worldwide lowering of temperatures during the summer of 1816.2

            Jarek: People just can’t bring all that they know to bear in the moment for a specific question. They dwell too much in current events, stuck in the present in the outer parts of their being.

            Obviously if one big eruption could do this, a bunch of them might be able to jolt us into an ice age, certainly if we were headed that way to begin with a la the Cycles.

          • MaryQueen August 10, 2023 at 7:18 pm #

            NASA claims they sent men to the moon, and that those men walked around, and took pictures, all of which is physically impossible. Just a reminder who you’re dealing with.

          • Qwibqwib August 10, 2023 at 9:17 pm #

            To be clear, the man, I don’t think Co2 is a pollutant. Co2 is plant food. The only construct here is the one used to present Co2 as a pollutant. Have you read about solar minimums/maximums and how they provide a more accurate model to explain climate change?

            I don’t find it surprising that a .gov agency (or an org that is beholden to them) would tow the political/religious line. Their funding is intrinsically tied to compliance with right think.

            These “institutions” will never stray from the established narrative. Personally, I want MORE Co2 emissions to help my garden and orchards grow.

            I have very little faith in the establishment. They have done nothing for my family. Everything of value in our lives is pretty much provided at the local level.

            Whether Medical/pharma ,military/industrial ,mainstream scientific, none of them are trustworthy. I am always more suspicious of their proclamations than accepting of them.

            They do not convince me in the slightest. If anything, their statements act as a warning to get ready for future graft, tax or corruption in a given sector.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 8:46 am #

        Nice to hear about your gardening forays and whatnot, Qwibqwib. I’ve heard about the three sisters thing, but also appreciate that not everyone everywhere are going to rubber-stamp the same thing.

        Myself, I try to go with a permaculture-ish approach of ‘protracted observation’, such as to see what works where and why and what doesn’t and what to do about either. That kind of thing. I’ve actually let a weed grow this summer that I previously was unaware that it was edible– wood sorrel. It tastes like lemony spinache and is great in salads, soups and stews, if not as good in my green teas.

        Right now, most of my garden is doing fine, even though my arugula has been attacked by something that eats tiny holes in my leaves, but not enough to kill the plant and prevent it from growing other leaves untouched that I can eat. So I’ve just let whatever it is do its thing until I feel like looking into it more.

        I’ve never grown potatoes, but do love to eat them. How easy are they to grow? Any tips of tricks to share?

        • Woodchuck August 10, 2023 at 6:20 pm #

          Taters are real easy to grow if you have access to partly composted leaves. I plant them very shallow and cover them with a thick layer of leaves using a small front end loader and a pitchfork. You cover everything in between the rows as well, the entire tater area is covered. This eliminates weeds and keeps the soil cool and moist. This year had the very best weather for taters, cool in the 80’s with plenty of rain. So I’m a victim of my own success – 500 lbs of taters harvested from my garden this year, an all time record for me. Taters can be preserved by canning them or making them into mashed potatoes and then freezing that in plastic containers that you just thaw out later. The canned taters are already cooked inside the jars, just heat up and serve.

          • Woodchuck August 10, 2023 at 6:33 pm #

            Forgot to mention that one primary benefit of having taters growing up through a layer of composted leaf material is they are extremely easy to dig out by hand, the leaf material is still lightweight and loose. Just rake your fingers through the loose material and pull the taters out. Before I figured this trick out I had a tough time of it digging taters out of by that time in summer usually hard packed earth with still enough clay in it to make it all a slow and miserable job. I even thought about purchasing a tractor attachment made specifically for plowing up and tossing the tubers out on top after the tractor passed over them. But the expense and hassle involved didn’t make much sense unless I was a commercial grower. Because the soil is rich with leaf compost the taters were so healthy this year that I had no insect problems, no potato beetles. I’ve discovered, at least with potatoes, that insects leave strong and healthy plants alone. Its sick plants in poor soil that need all the sprays and fertilizers.

      • malthuss August 10, 2023 at 11:00 am #

        potatoes were a disaster for the Irish. The tater is from south america. Grains are the Irish crops.

        • Islander August 10, 2023 at 12:35 pm #

          Malthuss:

          Are you saying that there never was nor could have been a potato blight in South America?

          It seems that the blight, like the potato, originated in latin America, thoiugh not the Andes:

          “The origin of the pathogen has been traced to the Toluca Valley in Mexico, whence it spread first within North America and then to Europe. The 1845–1846 blight was caused by the HERB-1 strain of the blight. ”

          It may be that the many varieties of the original potatoes would have meant that only some would have been affected by the blight.

          But it wasn’t the potato that caused the Irish disaster. It was politics. There was plenty of grain in Ireland, but it was exported. For instance, one historian estimates that 26 million bushels of grain were exported in the famine year of 1845.

          • malthuss August 10, 2023 at 5:18 pm #

            genocide.
            experts say ‘they’ grew potatoes because they were reduced to share cropping. white slaves.

            potato = hi yield crop.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle August 10, 2023 at 8:19 am #

      Let me get this straight: Do you two not believe, then, in anthropogenic climate change, nor peak oil? Do you think that coal can be readily substituted for oil? If so, why bother with gardening or anything like that? Why should TPTB bother with demolishing civilization? I mean, is it a case of, or similar to a case of, ‘Move along, nothing to see here.’?

      • Anthea August 10, 2023 at 12:04 pm #

        @ The Man They Call Zazelle:

        No, I don’t believe in AGW or the harmfulness of CO2. I don’t see any real reason to believe that we are running out of energy resources, either. I don’t know how converting coal to gasoline pencils out, but it can be used to produce nuclear power cheaply.

        As for gardening, stored food, and food self-sufficiency, those are good ideas, whether you anticipate a zombie apocalypse or not. There are many other kinds of emergencies. Gardening allows you to have much more nutritious, higher quality, food that is not poisoned by chemicals.

        As for the question of why the PTB would want to demolish civilization, my guess would be that it’s just a combination of malice and madness. People do silly, cruel, and pointless things all the time. They also embrace insane ideas for no apparent reason, and then occupy themselves with inventing rationalizations for them.

      • TPTB-USA August 10, 2023 at 2:28 pm #

        “Why should TPTB bother with demolishing civilization?” ~ The Man They Call Zazelle

        This gets back to disparity that you talked about some time back. Basically, the existing game is played-out, and the “noise” is cover to usher in a new game, The Great Reset.

        One should not look at it as being nefarious, as it attempts to address many foreseeable issues; but the problem is the deceitful manner in which it is being implemented, by a group that intends to serve themselves a better standing than others.

      • Qwibqwib August 10, 2023 at 10:08 pm #

        LOL! Do we Believe in the holy church of anthropogenic climate change? No we are witches, you will have to burn us as heretics! ROFL!

        Interesting aside, the “witches” who were executed throughout various European countries in the dark and middle ages were primarily charged with climate crimes, like causing bad harvests or political mishaps through invoking bad weather using black magic.

        Good read on that here: double you double you double you dot spiked-online dot com/2023/07/22/the-climate-witch-trials/

  78. Qwibqwib August 10, 2023 at 6:04 am #

    It’s all the same thing anyway…

    Double you double you double you dot youtube dot com slash watch?v=Bo3R3LBjDek

    • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 11:41 am #

      I see a lot of different things. Even if it is all the same the sameness has a lot of different aspects.

      • Qwibqwib August 10, 2023 at 11:21 pm #

        Truth

  79. stelmosfire August 10, 2023 at 8:12 am #

    Regarding these Hawaiian fires MSM is all in on the climate change aspect. You don’t hear much about the over development of the place Population of Maui up 43% between 2000 and 2020 with a limited water supply. Paradise is nice! until it isn’t.

    • Disaffected August 10, 2023 at 9:57 am #

      Needless to say, that population growth isn’t primarily among the poor and indigent. Maui screams money. Oh well, I’m sure they’re insured and/or able to absorb the loss.

      • JohnAZ August 10, 2023 at 10:52 am #

        Lahaina, a gem of the tourist trade, is gone. The one acre banyan tree that is hundreds of years old is gone. A big chunk of the appeal to tourists is gone.

        I hope they execute the SOBs that set those fires.

        • JohnAZ August 10, 2023 at 10:55 am #

          Also, how many hits can the insurance folks take before rates are astronomical or unobtainable.

          Like Florida and the Gulf Coast. Then that big replacement capital source will be history.

          The insurance industry, like the idiots in DC, are not bottomless pits of resources.

          • JohnAZ August 10, 2023 at 10:55 am #

            The just think they are.

        • malthuss August 10, 2023 at 11:02 am #

          Bill K. the drummer for the Grateful Dead left Maui. He found it too chi chi.

        • stelmosfire August 10, 2023 at 12:29 pm #

          That tree was planted in 1873 . Only 150 years old. It will probably start sprouting new leaves in a few weeks. I’ve got maples and oaks here that are twice that age.People chop them down all the time. 10 days ago a storm blew over a 350 YO sugar maple just down the street. Crushed a house. One of mine lost a branch and blew an 18″ hole in my roof.

          • malthuss August 10, 2023 at 5:30 pm #

            Ive seen this in so cal- malibu fires. the roots live on.

    • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 11:39 am #

      Another Easter Island? Population size and density do really matter. Especially on an island! But also this was induced by the passing of Hurricane Dora. Apparently the outer winds of the storm were buffeting Maui and Hawaii Islands with high winds but they were not receiving rainfall because the storm was still a ways away. So instead they were getting really bad fire winds.

      • JohnAZ August 10, 2023 at 1:22 pm #

        SSL

        Somebody or something had to ignite the fires, I notice that the MSM is not reporting potential causes. The trade winds blow in Hawaii constantly. Why do the fires break out when Dora shows up.

        Why are fires always in the worst possible places?

        • Dr. Zonk August 10, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

          Huh? Where would be a better place for a possible massive fire than the middle of Australia or the Canadian north?

        • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 2:46 pm #

          Well yeah I mean it definitely could have been started by someone. I certainly do consider that for sure. But just saying that it is a good possibility it was naturally started too. Particularly because of the very dry conditions and then the high winds which I understand were like 70 mph at certain points. Unfortunately I think the MSM is not very helpful in providing much information about anything.

          • JohnAZ August 10, 2023 at 4:40 pm #

            At many hundreds of places at the same time, with coincident high winds to make the fires unbeatable.

            These fires are not one per hundred years, they are unprecedented.

          • MaryQueen August 10, 2023 at 7:29 pm #

            Agree, JAZ. And this just after the Canadian fires.

            I’m just not buying that either were organic.

            They did this in CA for years.

    • malthuss August 10, 2023 at 5:19 pm #

      lots of utubes about how brown Hawaiians cant afford a condo or
      house so they move to vegas.

  80. malthuss August 10, 2023 at 10:41 am #

    Deja Taylor’s son AGE 6 shot his teacher Abigail Zwerner, 25, on January 6 at Richneck Elementary School, leaving her in the hospital with gunshot wounds to her hand and chest, investigators said.

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    • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 11:35 am #

      Yeah I heard about this. Cray cray. He said something like “I shot that bitch dead”. Deja was an “unlawful user of marijuana” when she purchased the gun that was eventually used to kill Abigail.

    • Islander August 10, 2023 at 12:41 pm #

      How can a six-year-old purchase a gun?

      I assume the pot was just lying around at home.

      • Islander August 10, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

        OK, Deja is the mom and she purchased the gun.
        Got it!
        Yikes.

      • stelmosfire August 10, 2023 at 2:28 pm #

        I recall Biden said he’s seen the gun truck come round the hood and sell guns out the back. People buy ’em like fudgesicles

        • Qwibqwib August 10, 2023 at 11:29 pm #

          Does the gun truck have a loudspeaker which plays “pop goes the weasel” when it drives through your neighborhood?

  81. Dr. Zonk August 10, 2023 at 12:57 pm #

    GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy on 9/11 terror attacks: I don’t believe the government has told us the truth

    httpX://www.naturalnews.com/2023-08-09-ramaswamy-government-hasnt-told-truth-911-attacks.html

    “I don’t believe the government has told us the truth,” Ramaswamy said. He went on to explain that recent years have shown the necessity of being cautious about accepting information even from government sources at face value. “What I’ve seen in the last several years is we have to be skeptical of what the government does tell us.”

    ***

    Apparently, today’s WEF is not just for breakfast anymore.

    • Jarek August 10, 2023 at 1:51 pm #

      Looks like meat is back on the table! Vivek is a hobbit, a muppet. We’re Orcs!

      • Dr. Zonk August 10, 2023 at 2:42 pm #

        That very well may be … but do you really believe that he is WEF when he goes completely against all established WEF m.o.?

        • Jarek August 10, 2023 at 3:08 pm #

          Yes, given the evidence. They’re clever like that. Google “Limited Hangout”, kudos to Mary.

          No new of course. As the Fathers said, the Devil will cleverly mix truth with lies to make the latter more credible.

          • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 4:18 pm #

            Yeah, kudos to Mary, the only one around here who has anything to say apparently

          • Dr. Zonk August 10, 2023 at 4:44 pm #

            I am familiar with “Limited Hangout,” thanks.

            Why just him? Why is Vivek the only WEFer crossing that Great Divide?

            Note: I’m not saying that he is not WEF. I have no idea. I’m just trying to understand one WEFer acting total opposite to all the other WEFers (if that is, in fact, true).

          • Dr. Zonk August 10, 2023 at 6:39 pm #

            Like … to what gain? Is the WEF now interested in waking the sheeple? If so, that is a very radical shift in their m.o., would you not agree?

          • MaryQueen August 10, 2023 at 9:10 pm #

            He’s not crossing any great divide.

            You obviously don’t understand what a limited hangout is.

          • MaryQueen August 10, 2023 at 9:11 pm #

            That was for Zonk not Jar.

          • Dr. Zonk August 10, 2023 at 10:06 pm #

            Mary,

            I do understand what a limited hangout is. I do not understand why one WEFer would run on a series of them while all of the other WEFers all over earth do not.

            When I hear of accusations and allegations, I look for motive. Where’s the motive? He’s going to run against all WEFers’ m.o. to … what? … bait-and-switch and do a 180 once he is elected on his platform of myriad limited hangouts?

            That does not seem very plausible to me. Does it you?

            Rather than attack me, answer my questions:

            What would be his motivation for these lies that you accuse him of? He wants to wake sheeple? Why? To what gain? What would be the motive? Accusations without potential motivation are impotent.

        • Qwibqwib August 10, 2023 at 11:50 pm #

          remember, politicians lie…

          • Qwibqwib August 10, 2023 at 11:59 pm #

            They lie and whisper sweet nothings into our ear. When and if they win, they simply change back to doing whatever wef, which stands for Welcome Everyone to Fail, wants them to do.

            The motivations is to get the people to support what he is saying and therefore, support him. Once he is elected (or appointed to another position in some other victorious presidents election), he can revert back to traveling as the commerce sec or energy or ag or whatever they need him for.

    • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 2:56 pm #

      Seems like the government rarely, if ever, tells the truth. It sorta the way that they operate. But we’re absolutely a democracy!

      • Disaffected August 10, 2023 at 4:22 pm #

        It’s “for our own good,” of course. They’re just being considerate.

        • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 11:14 pm #

          How nice of them!

    • MaryQueen August 10, 2023 at 7:31 pm #

      When he says that the US deep state did it, that will be something.

      Otherwise, it’s just dog whistling.

  82. Dr. Zonk August 10, 2023 at 1:33 pm #

    HE: “Please advise me if your technical position does not reduce to the fact that Putin is doing what he is doing because he can, given his analysis; because Putin’s self-interest is enough to justify the war in his view–that this is his valid reason?

    And if that is so, why should I not see this as an ethical position with which I disagree, Dr. Zonk?

    If you think I am wrong, make your case.”

    You’re doing it again. Don’t make a million assumptions based on a few of my paragraphs and “reduce” what I am saying. Stop saying what you think that I’m saying and deal only with what I am actually saying. ok?

    My technical position is that Putin properly deployed his forces for his goals. Then NATO jumped in. Then he ramped up (90k troops to now 750k).

    Technical analysis of war is not cheer-leading. You cheer-lead and dehumanize and discount your enemy.

    To illustrate what you do:

    You are saying, “I don’t like Putin. Therefore, everything he ever does is wrong and stupid and poopy and yucky!”

    Note: Still I have not indicated my morals, beliefs or mottos for this war. You do not know what they are and cannot tell from my objective assessments.

    • Dr. Zonk August 10, 2023 at 1:40 pm #

      You seem a little vaxxed.

    • Dr. Zonk August 10, 2023 at 1:50 pm #

      “There is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent.”
      ? Lao Tzu

      It is possible that Putin is a bad guy but strategically did something right.

      Right?

      • Disaffected August 10, 2023 at 4:21 pm #

        Depends on the definition of “bad guy,” doesn’t it?

        • Dr. Zonk August 10, 2023 at 4:50 pm #

          Agreed … but HE clearly defines “the Squirt” as a bad guy and my point is that bad guys can often do smart things to further their bad agenda. You would think that that is obvious but not so with HE who comes off more than a little vaxxed.

          • Islander August 10, 2023 at 5:23 pm #

            This “good guy/bad guy” usage is really adolescent.

            Especially when talking about heads of state. I mean, there certainly are some “bad guys” who comment on this blog.

            But the idea of Putin being a “bad guy” and that explains his captaincy of the ship of state called the Russian Federation is off the charts absurd.

          • Dr. Zonk August 10, 2023 at 6:32 pm #

            Thank you. HE has devolved my object war analysis of indisputeable fact [Putin started small, NATO joined, Putin ramped up] into his adolesent subjective assumptionfest. HE somehow made the Ukraine war about me and my (unstated) morals and beliefs and mottos.

            That is why I suspect that HE’s jabbed up the wazoo. The jabbed are turning childlike. Even more than normal.

        • Woodchuck August 11, 2023 at 7:27 am #

          “Bad guys” are whoever the people on tv say they are. Back in the 50’s when I was a kid watching tv they showed us that American Indians and Germans had been the bad guys in the past. But new bad guys had arrived on the scene – the Russians! Russian rockets and satellites terrified us for a while back in the 50’s.

      • malthuss August 10, 2023 at 5:22 pm #

        sounds like ART OF WAR not Taoism.

        • Dr. Zonk August 10, 2023 at 6:35 pm #

          Yes, it does, doesn’t it? I Googled to find the quote and was surprised that it is accredited to Lao Tzu. I, too, was expecting Sun Tzu.

    • Q. Shtik August 10, 2023 at 2:12 pm #

      You are saying, “I don’t like Putin. Therefore, everything he ever does is wrong and stupid and poopy and yucky!” – Dr. Zonk

      ============

      ^This^ is essentially my wife’s anti-Trump argument. He’s a poopy-head.

      • Disaffected August 10, 2023 at 4:19 pm #

        Call me crazy, but I generally try to steer clear of people who use the word “poopy” in any form. I like my profanity neat.

      • Woodchuck August 11, 2023 at 7:50 am #

        People like your wife show that we don’t need women voting in the USA in order to have a normally functioning government. It’s not the quantity of the votes cast that should determine the best person for leadership in government, it instead should be the *quality* of the votes cast. Votes should be coming from a selected group of people including leaders in all professional fields from blue collar to white collar. Votes should be coming from people who’ve already demonstrated that they are capable of making wise decisions and you are out doing things in the real world. If votes are being cast by people who understand nothing and have little contact with reality – well – those votes will actually have negative value as far as getting anyone qualified elected to office.

  83. JohnAZ August 10, 2023 at 1:47 pm #

    What percent of CO2 emissions into the atmosphere are attributable to humans?

    A very basic question, I believe.

    3.6 to 5 percent per a couple of neutral sources.

    Begs a question doesn’t it. If we eliminated humans, the decrease would be five percent.

    Another question, is five percent increase enough to explain climate change?

    I doubt it, I would say that humans better figure out some other causes of CC that we might affect.

    Sounds impossible but what if we painted all black heat absorbent surfaces in cities white? All surfaces perpendicular to the sun’s rays.

    • stelmosfire August 10, 2023 at 2:39 pm #

      Jaz the albedo of the ocean is only .06 compared to .12 for asphalt. Hard to believe but the water is much worse than the pavement. We’d be wasting good paint. Now if we filled the ocean with milk we would be on to something.

    • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 3:05 pm #

      I think the bigger effect we have is on natural habitats and ecosystems. The development of land has destroyed so much forest and grassland habitat and has contributed to so many extinctions.

      • JohnAZ August 10, 2023 at 4:29 pm #

        Urban heat islands are the culprits. Ever notice how cows and horses stay under trees on hot days. Shade is only part of it. Transpiration cools the air.

        Take a hot day, we have lots here. Take a walk in bare feet. Walking on grass is tolerable, walking on concrete is painful, walking on blacktop will burn your feet, it is intolerable. The temperature differences are big time.

        So the darker surfaces get much hotter and the higher temperature goes deeper.

        Which means that less heat can blow off at night. Add onto that the days are longer giving less time for the heat to dissipate at night.

        Now convert 10% of the landscape to asphalt and concrete and you might just have a real cause for global warming.

        Add on another data point. The Arctic, the northern hemisphere seems to be warming faster and de icing quicker than the southern and Antarctica. Could it be because more heat is being stored in the much denser north?

        As your own feet would tell you, converting blacktop to concrete would make a difference. Phoenix is using cool deck, a cooler surface, for sidewalks.

        The ocean is dark and absorbs heat, water itself absorbs lots of heat. Loss of white ice seems to be an accelerator of heating as open ocean absorbs and stores more heat.

        • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 11:09 pm #

          Yes the urban heat islands actually appear to be a primary cause of global warming in the sense that most of the weather monitoring locations are in urban or maybe suburban areas. There appears to be much less monitoring in rural locations. I do agree that having lighter surfaces allows sunlight to be reflected. It appears that Antarctica is cooling and ice is expanding there. Probably the Arctic will always be warmer because overall there is less ocean in the northern polar regions and the land masses tend to collect warmth in the summer.

          • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 11:13 pm #

            Oh and the other thing, which actually may be most interesting little factoid is that the Arctic Ocean is the shallowest ocean in the world. So even though it is in the Arctic it has the capacity to retain more heat than other oceans which are much deeper.

      • Qwibqwib August 11, 2023 at 12:08 am #

        Yes, environmental conservation is a real thing. We can and do have a local effect on the environment. Dumping waste in inappropriate places and not allowing ample room for other species is definitely something we can and should address.

        Anthropogenic climate change? not so much…

  84. rube-i-con August 10, 2023 at 2:01 pm #

    “When the impeachment process gets underway in earnest this fall, I expect “Joe Biden” will resign…”

    c’mon Jimbo, you were all in about “he’ll never last 6 months” after the election.

    “That the USA is worse than dead broke.”

    sheesh, recycling your posts from 2008?

    • Dr. Zonk August 10, 2023 at 2:28 pm #

      Nothing is real until it is.

  85. Dr. Zonk August 10, 2023 at 5:01 pm #

    A pro-Israeli pundit who refuses to discuss the USS Liberty is, imho, like Jeffrey Dahlmer refusing to discuss his freezer’s contents.

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  86. Night Owl August 10, 2023 at 5:16 pm #

    “Brazil: Wow, take a listen to this. President Lula says we need “Global Governance” to enforce “Climate Change Action” to make sure that “Everyone” complies..They are telling you in Plain Sight ? about the upcoming plans for a Global ???”

    https://nitter.net/Risemelbourne/status/1689415351958962184#m

    Get the Rednut Liberal (Mike Sherman) on this immediately. How can yet this be?

    LOL.

    • Islander August 10, 2023 at 5:26 pm #

      I saw that (Lula’s statement).

      Disturbing. Is he WEF????

      Don’t want right-wing military and don’t want leftist “global governance” nuts.

      Is there anything in the middle who sees his/her job as just running their own country???

    • Skeptical Mouse August 10, 2023 at 7:14 pm #

      So, just how much influence does Brazil actually have, Night Owl?

      Lula making provocative statements (to stir up the Paranoid Set) doesn’t make it actually so.

      • Night Owl August 11, 2023 at 6:57 am #

        This may be one of the most idiotic posts I have ever read on CFN.

        From a mysterious new poster, ofc.

        Who could it be?

        😀

    • MaryQueen August 10, 2023 at 9:09 pm #

      All of the socialist/communist leaders are on board with the WEF from what I can tell.

      • Dr. Zonk August 10, 2023 at 10:13 pm #

        Except Vivek, you mean. He espouses the exact opposite as all of the other WEFers in his dubious distinction as their limited hangout salesman. Hahaha.

        • MaryQueen August 10, 2023 at 10:35 pm #

          No, I know Vivek is a scumbag WEF puppet as well.

          • Dr. Zonk August 10, 2023 at 10:39 pm #

            … who runs on myriad limited hangouts in his efforts to awaken otherwise obedient sheep. You’re probably right.

  87. Night Owl August 10, 2023 at 5:19 pm #

    BTW, anyone else on here constantly locked out and sent to email verification?

    This seems to happen constantly these days.

    Wokester admins at WordPress at it again?

    • malthuss August 10, 2023 at 5:23 pm #

      not me..but i get censored.

    • KesaAnna August 10, 2023 at 9:25 pm #

      It happens to me episodically.

      ” Episodically ” meaning some weeks it doesn’t happen at all .

      And then it will happen three times in a row.

      Always an annoyance because when it happens it takes me 30 – 45 minutes to get in.

      First , I live in a very rural , mountainous area , so my internet is very slow as the norm.

      Secondly I have to deal with my email.

      I get at least 20 – 30 email advertisements a day , so about 300 emails per month I have to delete.

      I’m loathe to dump this email , though , because I have had it about 15 years , so it has some sentimental value.

      then , too —
      Come up with another email address , another user name , another password , just so that , sooner or later , the new email will get 300 junk emails a month anyway like the old one ?

      • KesaAnna August 10, 2023 at 9:29 pm #

        They say , ” A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. ”

        In this case my reasoning is , ” A hassle and an annoyance in the hand is worth two hassles and annoyances in the bush. “

        • KesaAnna August 10, 2023 at 9:31 pm #

          Another plus of my 15 year old email is it is no longer even a matter of memorization .

          My guess is I could recall my address and password even while in a coma.

          • Night Owl August 11, 2023 at 6:56 am #

            Kesa,

            Try Protonmail. Only takes a minute or so to get a new address set up. I have several Proton addresses that are more or less throw-away (for Twitter use, etc.)

          • GreenAlba August 11, 2023 at 7:09 am #

            I moved to Protonmail (on Night Owl’s recommendation, as I recall). I pay a small sum (£4/month) to have a more user-friendly format than whatever the basic one is, but I get free VPN with it.

            The junk goes into my old gmail account, which I only look at occasionally as it’s still linked to some online purchasing accounts. I don’t waste time deleting anything as it’s not my main account and friends or other important entities don’t use it. I only use protonmail for a few less annoying purchasing accounts, like train tickets and holiday rentals. I should really have created a separate one for all my subscriptions (CFN and a multiplicity of Substacks etc) as that’s what it’s now full of. Far too many to actually read them all now. I didn’t predict that I would subscribe to so many and they really fill up your inbox. But I have subfolders for them and occasionally clean up. Too occasionally, unfortunately.

    • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 11:00 pm #

      I don’t get locked out. Well actually maybe once or twice I did. But I notice it typically works after two verifications. And it consistently seems like it requires two times for me lol. Its probably just the agents assigned to us messing with us.

  88. KesaAnna August 10, 2023 at 9:43 pm #

    ” So, just how much influence does Brazil actually have, Night Owl? ”

    If you ever lived in a non – English – speaking country , you might in all seriousness think the same thing about the United States .

    Also , near as I can tell , from my albeit very limited experience ,

    very large countries , like the U.S. , Russia , China , and yes , Brazil , tend to see their country as the center of the universe ,

    when that is NOT the case.

    Granted , like Brad Pitt , the U.S. may have immediate name recognition in the mind of a Mauritian .

    But the U.S, is no more relevant to the life of a Mauritian than Brad Pitt is.

    • SoftStarLight August 10, 2023 at 10:56 pm #

      I wonder if Jackie de Shannon’s , ” What the world needs now is Love. ” sounds the same to a Mauritian as it does to an American.

      • KesaAnna August 10, 2023 at 11:16 pm #

        I had to pick some place , so I picked Maritius , because the guy who wrote ” Guantanamo Diary ” was a Mauritian.

        He was detained in Guantanamo for five or ten years.

        He claimed he wasn’t a terrorist .

        Call me naive , or a case of confirmation bias , because I believe him.

        I believe him because throughout the book he seems with genuine humor and genuine playfulness to address his predicament..

        And often used example being his captors would assert ,

        ” You hate America because __________ ! ”

        The blank being some aspect of American culture he was completely unfamiliar with and oblivious to.

        ( ultimately he was never charged with anything. )

  89. KesaAnna August 10, 2023 at 10:58 pm #

    ” There was a time when “normie” was nobody more than the middle-class aspirational, bourgeoise, suburban, consumerist …. ”

    IF I understand Kunstler’s basic premises , these were temporary aberations which were the product of the era of cheap coal and cheap petroleum.

    But that temporary era is coming to an end ,

    and we will return to something more like what is a genuine norm ,

    which is nothing like this totally NOT normal historic exception.

    An oddity of this blog is that Kunstler seems more concerned usually with ingratiating himself with his fans , rather than plumbing the depths of his own ideas and their implications.

    ” ….. with a provincial outlook, ”

    Very few people as far as I can tell.

    At least 90 out of a hundred people I meet are internationalist in outlook .

    At least in my opinion , nobody with a genuinely provincial outlook would ever view the American Civil War , World War II , or Vietnam , as good guy crusades.

    Whatever those wars were about , they certainly were not expressions of , ” All politics is local. ”

    ” Who can believe that a normie, today, is someone who believes in:

    -the importance of the family ”

    Not me .

    People who see the family as number one are even rarer than people whose politics are provincial , near as I can tell.

    Over the past 500 years , but certainly over the past 200 years , the state has systematically tried to take over pretty much every aspect of life and authority that used to be family – centered.

    The vast majority are fine with that.

    They might blow a gasket over drag queen story time ?

    Any other time , though , the minute another family , or other parent , does something they don’t like ,

    their first , and immediate , response is to sic the politicians , police , social workers , teachers , and employers on them.

    Even though it is quite obvious that they have zero desire to join that family , or to adopt and raise themselves that kid who remains an anonymous abstraction.

    Speaking of employers —

    Buiseness is as hungry for power as is the state , and so flatly hostile to the family as the original and primary authority .

    Never the less , mens liberation is defined as getting a job that took them out of the home ,

    as later womens liberation is defined as getting a job that took them out of the home ,

    and a ” right ” subsequently is to have your children educated by strangers , with the blithe assumption that those strangers will be friendly ,

    when common sense ought to indicate that the most and best you can expect from them is indifference ,

    count yourself lucky if it isn’t hostility.

    The importance of the family ?

    It’s an empty slogan.

    The state is important.

    Business is important.

    Myself is important.

    ” Important ” if a distant fourth place is important.

    Actually my guess is that this civilization would be headed for the trash can even if gasoline went back to 50 cents a gallon.

    Indeed , a return to cheap energy would only accelerate the process .

    • MaryQueen August 11, 2023 at 9:40 am #

      It’s too bad this is at the end of this comment section where many might miss it. It’s spot on. Well said, Kesa Anna.

  90. tom clark August 10, 2023 at 11:35 pm #

    Not much has changed in the last 20 years…

    “When your national mythology is based on the idea that it’s possible to get something for nothing, you’ll believe anything.”

    –James Howard Kunstler, 2003

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    • KesaAnna August 10, 2023 at 11:52 pm #

      😀

    • SoftStarLight August 11, 2023 at 12:11 am #

      Well, it is possible to get something for nothing. But. It is for a time. And then at the appointed hour, the nothing comes for the something.

  91. KesaAnna August 10, 2023 at 11:44 pm #

    ” How can a six-year-old purchase a gun? ”

    What sort of person says to themselves , in all seriousness , ” I should be President of the United States . ” ?

    Granted , I haven’t seen the raw numbers , but several studies were done at the conclusion of the 20th Century that supposedly concluded that more people were killed in that century by their own states than were killed by foriegn invaders , criminals , or 6 year olds.

    So I might ask how can the state purchase guns when those sons of bitches have so consistently shown that you can’t trust them any further than you can throw them ?

    My supposed buddies Barack Obama and Joe Biden never seem to get around to mentioning that in the 19th Century the Second Amendment didn’t apply to those monkey children , Black People.

    But then , supposed fans of the right to keep and bare arms rarely enough mention it either.

    I can count out one hand the number of times I have heard someone say ,

    ” I want to keep this out of your hands because I want power , and because I’m an asshole.

    In contrast , if I got a nickle every time someone claimed their reason was moral , or common sense , or scientific ,

    I would have what they call , ” Fuck You Money “.

    • SoftStarLight August 11, 2023 at 12:20 am #

      Yes, probably the truth of the matter is that more people than you think would rather the 2nd amendment apply to just them or maybe their tribe at the most. And for that matter throw the rest of the amendments in there too. Talk of which may be avoided in “polite society” because it is a tacit admission that the great state is at best a balkan state.

  92. SoftStarLight August 11, 2023 at 2:32 am #

    Tucker interviews Steven Sund, the former Capitol Police Chief who was on duty during the Jan 6 protests. Clear to see why Fox did not want this interview to air.

    ..twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1689783814594174976?s=19

    • TPTB-USA August 11, 2023 at 3:49 pm #

      How long until MSM acknowledges the stink emanating from DC?

      How long until the general population recognizes what MSM is feeding them?

  93. SoftStarLight August 11, 2023 at 2:55 am #

    Perhaps this is what Biden was referring to when he said that they established the most extensive voter fraud organization in history?

    ..thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/now-we-have-proof-tgp-exclusive-massive-2020/

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