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Money Worries

     Of course, everybody should have been worried a lot sooner than last week because the basic operating system of global banking is accounting fraud, and has become that stealthily, insidiously, for about fifteen years now. Nothing is what it appears to be anymore. Compound interest has not really been working since 2008 because the world can’t increase its energy production enough to generate the additional surplus wealth needed to cover the aggregate interest due all around the world. 
        What remains are games of musical chairs, Ponzi schemes, frauds, swindles, stonewalls, ruses, ploys, scams, dodges, bluffs, subterfuges, QE martingales, interventions, rehypothecations, pretenses and other modes of evading or disguising reality. The reality is that there is not enough real wealth to go around, certainly not enough to cover the giant web of obligations that masquerades as “money.” So, now whenever somebody or some company or government or entity is called upon to put up or shut up, the danger arises that the whole web will disintegrate, since all the participants are broke. You want “your” money? Wait three days. Make that four days. Check that, let’s say next week. How about two months from now? Oh, forget about it…. No wonder folks are spooked.
     This is really getting out of hand. That’s why the ills of the poor, untoward, tiny crypto-nation of Cyprus have got everyone’s knickers in a twist. Cyprus is everybody writ small. Cyprus ran out of pretense. It’s banks are toast. It can’t take care of itself. It is too poor to be a “modern” economy. It failed trying to be a money laundromat for the brigands of Russia and the dope merchants of the Eastern Mediterranean. The tourists and retirees may even have to pack up and leave now because there will be no access to ready cash for day-to-day living.
     The terms of the latest bailout announced Sunday night are curious. The New York Times reports that, “the deal would scrap the highly controversial idea of a tax on bank deposits, although it would still require forced losses for depositors and bondholders.” Say, what? In fact, there is no material difference between the so-called “tax” and the “forced losses.” That was just semantics. The word tax had been bandied about two weeks ago when the EU first proposed that the Cyprus government might pass a legislative act skinning its bank depositors. That didn’t go down, of course, so now its just an EU mandated haircut on deposits over E-100,000 and bank bondholders. As for the deposits under E-100,000… you’re welcome to them, the catch being that the banks aren’t open for business… and the EU bailout money will not arrive in Cyprus until May. They are sending it by packet boat from Antwerp and hoping for fair winds.
     Cyprus has to become somebody’s ward again. Cyprus was either Turkey’s or Great Britain’s ward for most of the past 400 years. The population is ethnically split about 60 / 40 Greek / Turkish making for chronically uncomfortable governance. The island remains physically divided into two separate and hostile north-south zones. If you look at it on the map, it is nowhere near Greece, but rather tucked right up under Turkey’s bosom. It is strategically a naval hub of the Middle East and is occupied both by NATO troops and by two remaining British military bases – a convenience given the ongoing deterioration in Middle East geopolitics, as nation after nation melts down, and threatens to impinge on much of the world’s oil supply. My guess is that Turkey will eventually recover administration of Cyprus by dint of sheer geographical proximity. It is said to possess considerable offshore gas, but the politics there are so problematic that the stuff may not be logistically recoverable, especially with the rest of the Middle East in flames.
       The current bailout deal with its confiscations and haircuts is the first time in the multi-year melodrama of the wobbling EU that big-shot EU officials had voiced the idea that they had any authority to snatch private property (money) of a member’s citizens. So, instantly the notion reverberated around Europe that they could easily do the same thing in Italy, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Greece – the usual broke suspects – if the EU was pushed too hard. And a few nervous nellies stateside began to wonder out loud when the US government might try some confiscational monkey business, such as the much-blogged-about notion of forcing retirees to put all their money in US Treasury instruments.
     More to the point perhaps was the additional notion that the money was not there in the first place. Or anywhere. It was not snatchable. The banks were insolvent. They had pissed their meager reserves away on bad paper – like every other financial enterprise around the world – and the collateral was a joke. Depositors in Cyprus banks might indeed lose their money, but the EU would not collect any theoretical plunder either, so the whole bailout exercise was just another empty bluster. Even more to the point was the additional notion that no money in any bank in any sovereign EU member would be plunderable because there is no money in any of them, and the fiasco in Cyprus was leading to the recognition of the utter bankruptcy of the system.
     In other words, this charade is far from over. There will be more bank runs. They may or may not take the form of disgruntled depositors physically standing in line along the pleasant blocks of Europe’s cities as the street trees burst into lovely spring bud and flower. In the first flush of activity post-Cyprus, a lot of hypothetical cash will probably just end up shifting out of Europe altogether and into the clutches of Jamie Dimon and his fellow miracle workers, primed for grand new acts of rehypothication with the inflow.
     The chatter around this crisis has not included any consideration of the dark forces roiling in the alternate universe of rackets known as derivatives — which should now be primed to detonate whatever remains of financial legitimacy even while governments and central banks rally with new sets of excuses and “ring-fence” strategies for the floundering banks. All the ruling parties this whole world round won’t face the fact that absolutely nobody can cover his losses, and the losses just keep mounting with every central bank keystroke. Welcome to the age of phantom money.

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569 Responses to “Money Worries”

  1. goodhumorman March 25, 2013 at 8:37 am #


  2. Hammering Truth March 25, 2013 at 8:52 am #

    The theft in Cyprus is miniscule compared to the theft of Americans by Bernanke: http://youtu.be/8IVvf6bq2aE

  3. Moondog March 25, 2013 at 8:57 am #

    Hope you are on the mend, Jim. No mention of your health this week, but plenty on the wished-up life support system on which the world economy depends. Like the US dollar, as long as people keep believing in its worth, the juggernaut of international finance will lumber along, no less delusional than the touted coming “energy boom.” Ya gotta laugh, or ya gotta cry.

  4. JOHNNY REB March 25, 2013 at 8:57 am #

    What will we replace banks with? The whole idea of depositing in banks, whether here or elsewhere, is toast now.

  5. Moondog March 25, 2013 at 9:01 am #

    I get mail offers regularly that boast a 0.80% interest rate on savings, as if that will attract customers. Absurd.

  6. ozone March 25, 2013 at 9:04 am #

    Firstly, I hope that you are “resting comfortably”. …Although I’m guessing “comfort” is out of the question for a bit yet, I wish it on you anyhoo! ;o)
    Dipping the stick into the financial oilpan reveals suspicious colorations not unlike coolant leaking/mixing into it. Damn; blown head gasket…
    Here’s another mighty feat of pretending regarding our own lovely stock market surge:
    Careful; unlike yourself, Mr. Whitney is sometimes prone to a bit of hyperbole. ;o)
    Still, if read carefully, much is revealed in this article… bad, crawly things.

  7. Neon Vincent March 25, 2013 at 9:08 am #

    That the Russians have been using Cyprus as a money-laundering operation just made things worse. The Germans and the rest of the EU decided the crisis was the perfect opportunity to screw over the Russians and they took it. Never mind that doing so set the stage for more bank runs (or at least brisk walks and jogs) all along the Mediterranean shores of the EU later on. As a commenter on Ezra Klein’s article on the topic remarked, “The Europeans hate Russia more than Greece. They still want to lie on the beach in Greece.”
    As for compound interest not working because of energy issues, look no farther than the U.S. Treasury notes. The 30-year is offering 3%, and the 10-year only 2%. People who expect a return on their investment just aren’t getting it, in more ways than one. I guess that’s why they’re running up the stock market, although the Ides of March put a knife in the back of the ten-day rally, the longest since 1996. I got bored with that rally after three days, but the bull market might still have another top in it yet.
    Over at Crazy Eddie’s Motie News, I’ve found a striking example of techno-narcissism. Stewart Brand, who Jim has used as a poster boy of the syndrome before, presented a TED talk on de-extinction. He’s found a bunch of scientists who would really love to bring back the passenger pigeon, gastric brooding frog, Iberian ibex, and the wooly mammoth. Reactions range from “that’s so cool” to “that’s the stupidest thing I’ve read all year.” One person even pointed out the narcissistic anthropocentrism of the entire project. It really is all about us.
    Other topics include the latest space news, such as the fireball over the U.S. Eastern Seaboard right after the U.S. House of Representatives held hearings on coordinated action against Near Earth Objects, Earth Hour, Michigan agriculture, griping about the weather instead of celebrating spring, and China’s environmental problems, along with an ongoing retrospective of the second year of the blog.
    Happy Motoring–for now–from Detroit!

  8. budizwiser March 25, 2013 at 9:09 am #

    I get mail offers regularly that boast a 0.80% interest rate on savings, as if that will attract customers. Absurd.

    Yeah – you can’t have a conversation with a “normal” person. If you try to explain the any detail of the world as it is – they simply assume you are either ignorant or crazy.
    The real story is that distance of geography is NOT the measure of any separation of the bastards in the EU and their American counterparts testing their puppet politicians for their own future survival.
    Yes – this is really happening – and the fact that there are no cackles, protests or comment from the American financial community is proof enough of their perspective and future plans.
    Gold and Silver – getting better looking all the time.

  9. Neon Vincent March 25, 2013 at 9:10 am #

    “Hope you are on the mend, Jim.”
    Just like last week, I second this emotion. Here’s to a complete and speedy recovery.

  10. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 9:13 am #

    I will wait and see if any EU ministers are assassinated over this. Logic tells us they should be if the cover story on Cyprus is to be believed. These Oligarchs and their hitman representative, Vladimir Putin, don’t play around. Remember Litvinenko? Germany’s audacity will be countered at some point. Sixty years ago would anyone have thought Germany would rise again? Yet here it is, calling the shots in Europe; the new and improved Germany with a new form of Blitzkrieg, replacing tanks and planes with bailouts.

  11. ozone March 25, 2013 at 9:15 am #

    More sharp, stinging slaps of reality from Ellen Brown. (It’s like watching ’em make hot dogs.)
    Can it happen here? A shotgun and a safe, or a “fine upstanding institution” such as the cadre under Bernanke?

  12. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 9:21 am #

    Gold and Silver – getting better looking all the time.
    What makes you think that’s safe? They can confiscate it anytime they please, or eviscerate its value on the exchanges by shorting the hell out of it anytime they please. And don’t hand me that bull that they wouldn’t do that because the “American” people would rise up. Bullshit!! The “American” people aren’t going to do a damn thing about anything, ever, except piss and moan about it on the internets to include CFN. We are fast approaching the point of No Where To Run To No Where To Hide. Or are we? I keep saying that and thinking that, but the road this can is being kicked down has no horizon; it just keeps going, and going, and going, and going. If the emergency is too long, is it time to call it something else? Something to consider, but who cares anyway? Not me. Not anymore.

  13. RyeBeachBum March 25, 2013 at 9:22 am #

    Meanwhile here in the US real national debt, including entitlement programs and future obligations, is estimated between $60 Trillion and $120 Trillion.

  14. pedal pusher March 25, 2013 at 9:24 am #

    0.08%?….Take it!

  15. newworld March 25, 2013 at 9:25 am #

    Probably generating a quiet rush towards tangibles. The few people I know with money are sophisticated enough to recognize events like these are engineered to shear them not the Dimon’s of the world. None of them would trust the barkers at CNBC though they would parrot them and in a way participate in the scams.
    I frankly can care less and less everyday, but what I want gone most of all are the PC tyrants, those smiley faced POS and their lucrative scams, gone.

  16. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 9:26 am #

    including entitlement programs
    And what would you consider entitlement programs?

  17. ozone March 25, 2013 at 9:28 am #

    Not to put too fine a point on it, but trolling (fishing from a moving platform) for reactionaries is unseemly. I chose to call it out… but respond, aside from this short note? Nope. (Besides, it’s much too early in the comment thread, and tends to stick out like a hectoring, red-faced politician.)

  18. adequatio. March 25, 2013 at 9:28 am #

    Got gold? Got Silver? I’m recommending everyone here to have some precious metals in their possession. It’s real money that has no counter party risk.

  19. djc March 25, 2013 at 9:31 am #

    Great post today with one small correction. Cyprus is ethnically about 80% Greek and 17% Turk.
    I hope you are recovering well Jim.

  20. GAZ March 25, 2013 at 9:34 am #

    This Cyprus thing is all about Merkel playing chicken with Putin. Looks like Germany is going to get ahold of a lot of the Russian “dirty” money. Round one goes to the Germans. However, this next winter in Europe, let’s see what happens when Russia turns off the Nat gas to europe. Round two goes to Russia. Isn’t this fun?

  21. adequatio. March 25, 2013 at 9:40 am #

    Get some gold and silver, Carol. You’ll sleep better at night. Bank on it!!

  22. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 9:40 am #

    Bullshit. Already the pattern develops of attempting to put a right wing spin on JHK’s weekly offerings. Despite his diplomatic distancing from right wing propagandists, you still camp out and usurp the message. There’s no discussion going on. It’s dissemination of right wing talking points and a co-opting of JHK’s message and intent.
    Case in point, Social Security is not an entitlement program. It’s an obligation, but it’s not debt in its truest sense. People paid into it. They get that back. Debt is associated with it because the crooks in Washington Consensus replaced what people paid into it with IOU’s to cover the tax revenue shortfall when taxes were cut for the wealthy starting under JFK and accelerated under Carter and Reagan.
    Remember, JHK has said in no uncertain terms, he is not a right winger, politically. Quit using him as a foil because he’s critical of public policy regardless of who is in office.

  23. wmt477 March 25, 2013 at 9:46 am #

    It’s snowing here in Loudoun County, VA. Still, it’s Monday morning and we got to go to work. My
    paycheque shows up in my bank account every two weeks. I buy gasoline, food and other commodities
    just like always. I pay my bills just like always.
    I put monies aside in a savings account,like always. What has changed? So my money dosen’t buy as much? Did it ever? I have what I need and can buy more when that runs out. I’m not worried, only interested. I keep up with issues regarding peak-oil, global dimming, Iran/N.Korean
    nukes, the end of the current intra-glacial, the melting ice on Greenland, the wiping out of species, the next flu pandemic and the impossibility of happy governing anywhere. I hear all the banks are broke and the tsunami of derivatives is about to bring down the financial wealth of the world. But not yet. Nobody knows when, nobody knows the future. So what’s new? The Safeway is open for business just like every Monday morning.Steaks and milk, paper towels and puppy chow. It’s still there. The C.F. Nationals have been writing here for about seven years pumping each other week after week with comments on a future that is really the past. No one knows what the future will bring. You can “stock up”, buy guns, plant crop and hunker down but the Safeway is open this snowy Monday morning and so is my bank. What’s new?

  24. steve March 25, 2013 at 9:46 am #

    Mr. Kuntsler: Just about as good an analysis of the situation as I’ve seen anywhere. Hope you’re feeling better.

  25. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 9:47 am #

    LOL, adequatio with a dot. I don’t think so. My motto is invest in people, not stocks, or commodities. When you invest in instruments rather than people, you invest against people. That’s the nature of this system anymore. Perhaps it was the nature of it always, but it certainly is now. It’s never been clearer; you invest in corn or oil and you quite literally break people, and yet people with more money than they know what to do with prefer to continue delivering pain via their investment strategies.

  26. ozone March 25, 2013 at 9:49 am #

    Meanwhile, on this morning’s “Marketwatch” (NPR’s champion ass-smoke and sunshine blowers), they’re having a “serious and sober” conversation about the effects of debt on growth (soon to return, although in a rather sloooower-than-forecast iteration).
    If we didn’t know any better, this would all sound perfectly reasonable and simply a matter of twiddling and adjusting the proper knobs, dials, sliders and levers. It’s all devolving into a carney ride of the ludicrous.

  27. PFleTch1 March 25, 2013 at 9:53 am #

    Very well said!

  28. felloffthepeak March 25, 2013 at 9:56 am #

    If I remember correctly it was a small Austrian bank failing that set the great depression in motion. If history really DOES repeat itself or as you say “rhymes” who knows? I wonder if stealing soon to be or already worthless money is a crime? Obviously money that still has a bit of value when stolen is exempt as the Banksters still walk among us uncharged of any criminal wrongdoing and heads held high. If you steal food from WalMart you WILL be brought to “justice”. If you steal the WalMart franchise the best practitioners of jurisprudence will line up to defend you…for a fee. The “moral” of this story was voiced by Don Corleone “A man can steal more money with a briefcase than with a machine gun.” A speedy recovery to you.

  29. ozone March 25, 2013 at 9:56 am #

    Only this once.
    Regardless of your stated [altruist] intent of protecting JHK’s niche on the political spectrum, the perception is as I have outlined.
    …And BTW, how did you know it was YOU I might have been referring to? Oopsie.

  30. LarsX March 25, 2013 at 9:57 am #

    Just finished The Long Emergency, Jim. Great stuff. I highly recommend it for those with a taste for the apocalyptic. It confirms my sense that we are all scruu-da.

  31. FrogCounter March 25, 2013 at 9:58 am #

    Hey, the Dow is at 14,540 and on the way up. We’re all gonna be rich! 😉

  32. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 9:59 am #

    Because I’ve become adept at spotting you. The pattern is obvious to anyone who takes the time to look closely enough. You rely on them not looking closely, and that’s a good bet because most people are too distracted and too naive. Not me. Not anymore.

  33. ront March 25, 2013 at 10:00 am #

    This essay has me recalling the words of Swami Letharji, student of Swami Procrastananda who is most noted for his central message: “To act is to be filled with the illusion of having done something, whereas to not act is to be filled with the reality of having done nothing.”
    Swami Letharji’s message: “Don’t worry–panic!”
    Or, like-minded citizens could find a way to fire the private bankers by establishing non-profit or government-operated banking collectives. Whatever the cost and complications of this process, if we could capture in photos and videos the looks on the banksters faces it would be more than worth the trouble.
    Check out Richard Wolff being interviewed by Bill Moyers on PBS.

  34. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 10:04 am #

    Great point. It’s like the elite males on the Titanic retiring to the library for one last round of poker, and all of them cheating at it until the ship goes down. Good to the last drop.

  35. wardoc March 25, 2013 at 10:04 am #

    We will replace the banks with physical gold and silver coins that we keep in a safe in our home, with plenty of weapons and ammo to defend it. An Exception is, of course, the anti-self defense morons who, being completely unarmed, will have theirs stolen, after their wives and daughters are raped by heavily armed gangs (who, by the way, don’t give a damn about political correctness or guns safety issues, or anything, for that matter, except their immediate desires.).
    Gold and silver will be used, in varying denominations (e.g. 1/2, 1/4, 1/10th, 1/20th oz; recall “pieces of eight.” ) to do business and for barter. There is a novel that alludes to such, its called “world made by hand.” But, how will one keep from being robbed while going to and from the grocery store when criminals know that everyone is carrying gold and silver? For the answer, check out the website of Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership; http://www.jpfo.org.
    This is probably the most well researched and articulate self defense site on the web.

  36. ozone March 25, 2013 at 10:06 am #

    Check out that link to Mike Whitney’s article, and you’ll see how that was handily (and quite magically) “accomplished”. ;o)

  37. AdamBrownUK March 25, 2013 at 10:07 am #

    My best wishes for your good health and recovery, I look forward, every week to your, global comments, on the energy situation, and real consequences, in finance, banking. I have a query… If the World will in future be be , Made By Hand, how does this sit, in reality, with, the consequences of nuclear technology. The Cork retaining nuclear excrement, from exit from the nuclear bowel, appears, loose. Here, in the United Kingdon, we have the Sellafield toxic radioactive poison location plus otheres. In the USA reside other sites of Nuclear Excrement that awaits release. It let by a few nuclear farts , Chernobyl, 3 mile Island, hundreds other, but, if the current money system collapses, inherent is the inevitable collapse of three thousand pound a week wage per person, of useless twats stirring the nuclear poison. Nuclear exrement, removed of the nuclear arse cork, is going to hve a global nuclear crap. Previously free of charge clean fresh air and clean rain, will be gone, for 3 million years, about. I hereby state my doubt that anything made by hand, in open air at least, will exist.

  38. Smokyjoe March 25, 2013 at 10:10 am #

    I hear a few bankers, on various money-related shows at BBC and NPR, sounding just like JHK.
    The system of global finance is very fragile when you have financial wizards saying “the entire system is built on trust” and “all the money in Cyprus is an illusion. Nothing backs it.”

  39. Smokyjoe March 25, 2013 at 10:15 am #

    Meant to add that things might get interesting in that part of the Med if the Ruskies take up Cyprus’ offer to explore for natural gas. Then we might see Russian naval vessels there to “protect Russian interests” and request basing rights.
    Turkey, no friend of Russia’s and with a booming economy compared to everyone else in the region, will not be happy. Nor will the UK. I was mightily impressed during a few trips to Turkey in the last decade, including a briefing by some of their general-staff to my employer’s team.
    The Turks are no nation to mess with, with a robust and modern military. Erodgan is putting together a deal with the PKK and the Kurds of Iraq, too.
    We’ll see what sort of Great Game Putin is ready to play in the 21st Century. The bear might its nose bloody if it pokes it into the Eastern Med.

  40. Moondog March 25, 2013 at 10:18 am #

    That’s 8/10 of 1% interest. Yeah, the bits of precious metals are looking good.

  41. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject March 25, 2013 at 10:24 am #

    Mr. Kunstler,
    I take no mention of your recovery progress as a good sign. Uncomfortable you are I’m sure, but doggedly tenacious no less. I Hope the girlfriend is finding some time to rest, too, as I’m sure she’s been by your side non stop.
    Thanks, too, for spending time on the Cypress issue. There’s a ton of speculation on the matter which is at least entertaining if not accurate due to what Zone and others have suggested is simply black hole of lies and misdirection. Thanks to a few others who’ve dared a rant or two about the Real Politik implications as well.
    I do have a few questions, though. As you mention, James, there doesn’t seem to be any semblance of “real” money left in the system. Nothing left in the way of savings deposits to confiscate in order to remedy any meaningful degree of insolvency that is. If there is any real money left, it is clearly being siphoned upward, and genuine talk about limiting executive payout is unlikely. So why do people think that big government programs to create jobs and reinvigorate existing crumbling infrastructure somehow deserves public support? That’s just more backhanded thievery as I see it. Aren’t we keen to that foolishness by now? It seems a debt forgiveness debate over further “stimulus” enslavement should finally merit public attention, no? And also, if there is no real money, then how do people who advocate becoming their own central bank, as if the government won’t also excise precious metals, justify that silliness? Aren’t we beyond these types of “solutions?” And is it not time to launch the stillborn baby with the bathwater? Aren’t all of the social philosophies championed by dead, collapsed civilizations fully exposed as inadequate by now? Somehow, shouting “it’s time to give socialism a chance” doesn’t seem too bright.
    Reading A Safe and a Shotgun… now. Maybe some answers are there.

  42. daofirry2 March 25, 2013 at 10:24 am #

    hey, Scientific American did a great article about EROI this month. You can’t read the whole thing from this link, but the link will help you locate the article. I guess you can just buy a physical copy of the magazine, like I did.

  43. bproman March 25, 2013 at 10:24 am #

    The money monks have given new light upon the world to help the peons move the pea under the shell.
    The wizards on Lombard street may have shuffled the deck into the black hole of the digital balance sheet. Hocus pocus, poof. All gone.

  44. shorty March 25, 2013 at 10:25 am #

    The wealth, power, and scope of the modern national security welfare state on full display. Pics of the worlds owners and their toadies reveal they aren’t worried at all. The useful idiot Obomber donning a yamaka and visiting his puppeteer…..looking all smug and secure. Helicopter Bennie lecturing the congressional cretins on financial alchemy. Rupert working on new acquisitions. Warren B still lecturing the proles re getting rich. Drones buzzing I-5 over in Seattle in case there is an insurrection in a Starbucks. Clogged freeways….plenty of $4 gas…..mall parking lots totally full….casinos jammed……lotteries over subscribed. Open your eyes and look around……

  45. tstreet March 25, 2013 at 10:31 am #

    Wow. You can put out this stuff only a week or so after heart surgery. Sounds like you have not lost your vinegar. Hope all is well.

  46. Treeman March 25, 2013 at 10:36 am #

    A quote from 71 years ago, when people were under the jackboot.
    ” why allow these men who are in power to rob you step by step, openly and in secret, of one domain of your rights after another. Until one day nothing, nothing will be left but a mechanised state system presided over by criminals and drunks?” –  Die Weisse Rose , resistance leaflet no. 3, 1942.
    The Russians are already talking about freezing european( read German) assets in Russia. They may well reduce the gas flow causing a spike in prices this autumn.
    Most people underestimate the antipathy that Russians hold for Germany and Putin can score big points at home, both with the rank and file and the ‘oligarchs’. Many of whom are or have ex KGB connections anyhow.
    The game is up now in Europe as this establishes a precedent
    for them to plunder savings at will without recourse to law.
    The thing that most people fail to grasp is that unless you physically hold it, money of any type, be it paper or gold and silver, is easily subject to the whim of their masters. Anyone who has spent time in Afghanistan or Iraq would be all too familiar with the people’s distrust of banks. As of course people from Argentina, brazil and Mexico a used to getting shafted every ten years or so.
    When the Cypriot banks reopen on Tuesday it should be a very interesting day. I expect currency controls to be announced pretty quickly!
    As for Cypriot politicians and euro banking officials, staying away from Slavic looking men with buzz cuts and carrying umbrellas is probably going to be wise descion for some time!

  47. Dirk March 25, 2013 at 10:41 am #

    Ah Yes…Ben Bernanke and his marvelous Benny Bucks printing press. Good point but none of it seems to matter. Well, it matters to those of us who are not in the top 1% wealthy elite who are affected by 0% interest on retirement accounts. But the fact that nothing has real value anymore and that Governments just keep kicking the can down the road just seems to make the ‘markets’ giddy. That is because the wealthy elite are hoarding all this toilet paper ‘money’.
    Jim said it best: In the end there will be people with a lot of money that isn’t worth anything and those with no money. And let me tell you, when all that pretend, conjured toilet paper money vaporizes and the 1% realize that they are NOT, in fact, rich……then the squealing will start.

  48. lsjogren March 25, 2013 at 10:48 am #

    Carol, you bet there are some here who are quite right wing (although what in the world does calling Social Security an “entitlement” program have to do with it, that is the popular term among the Establishment Left)
    What’s so harmful about people expressing different ideological views here?
    I have seen opinions here from right wing Libertarian wackos and left wing Socialist wackos here. I fail to see how that harms me or you.

  49. lsjogren March 25, 2013 at 10:56 am #

    I was looking around for articles on Cyprus last night and trying to see what the Russians are thinking.
    I couldn’t find anything on that. Perhaps they are laying low and just waiting for a window of opportunity sometime in the next few years to implement a “don’t get mad, get even” project.

  50. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject March 25, 2013 at 10:58 am #

    I think you nailed it here:
    The game is up now in Europe as this establishes a precedent for them to plunder savings at will without recourse to law.
    That’s the only thing I can figure from this whole Cypress mess. Indeed, a new precedent has been set. These central banks are openly fucking with sovereignty in a new way. TPTB would have known directly just whose money was sitting in that bank, and they threatened seizure anyhow. I doubt that they tugged on an ass hair of the Russian grizzly just for shits and giggles and over a measly $10 billion bailout. Whatever this means in the grand scheme, the line in the sand was drawn right there. This incident makes it clear to competing powers that they could be squeezed out if they don’t muscle up, and I think they will.

  51. pedal pusher March 25, 2013 at 11:09 am #

    I know what 0.08% means and I’m still telling you
    to take it. I’m getting a lousy 0.065% on a fair chunk of change, but I’m still skidish about precious metals. Of course, I don’t know how safe any of it is. Who does?

  52. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 11:14 am #

    and left wing Socialist wackos here
    You have to be joking. Where? Granted, I’ve only been reading this site for well less than a year, but I’ve yet to see anything resembling what you’ve described with this statement.
    The Establishment “Left” is not “Left.” It’s now a trojan horse for formerly right wing policy, so pointing to it and saying “they” say it to doesn’t hold water with me. Anyone with any sense of independence politically, would never call Social Security an entitlement program. If they do, either they’re unwitting, brain-dead regurgitators of propaganda, or they’re willful spreaders of lies and deceit. Either way, no fruitful discussion can be had if it starts out immediately with unchecked falsehoods.

  53. DeeJones March 25, 2013 at 11:20 am #

    wow! .80%, much better than the .50% that my old US bank gave.
    Interest rates are much better here, in fact, the CR central bank is trying to find ways to discourage the most egregious currency speculators.
    As for kicking the can to the horizon, better look up once in awhile, or you may find the horizon to be the edge of a cliff.
    HavaNiceDay! Hope you feel even better soonest, Jim.

  54. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject March 25, 2013 at 11:24 am #

    This article doesn’t make any sense. After talking about how the Russians nationalized their banking system after a “1998 Asian Crisis” the author lumps in this graph:
    “The entire Eurozone conundrum is unnecessary. It is the result of too little money in a system in which the money supply is fixed, and the Eurozone governments and their central banks cannot issue their own currencies. There are insufficient euros to pay principal plus interest in a pyramid scheme in which only the principal is injected by the banks that create money as “bank credit” on their books. A central bank with the power to issue money could remedy that systemic flaw, by injecting the liquidity needed to jumpstart the economy and turn back the tide of austerity choking the people.”
    Isn’t she in effect saying that the problem of central banks and fiat money printing should be countered by yet another, albeit smaller scale, “national” central bank that again prints fiat to stimulate economies based on still the same indebtedness requirement? I guess she’s in a ’roundabout way saying default on the Euro, then nationalize new fiat and begin the same nonsense all over again. What is this new currency supposed to be tied to again… if not some hard assets, then what? Future good intentions? Zone, this one flew straight over my head, man.

  55. Al Klein March 25, 2013 at 11:25 am #

    All this talk aboput money woes! As I recall, JHK has written many times about “notional” assets. These are intangible “things” to which a “value” has been assigned. Derivatives are an excellent example of such “things”. Derivatives are really side-bets. But the real point of this is that much of what we consider “value” has been hopelessly corrupted. And since “value” has questionable meaning, what can “money” mean, since it is an abstraction of value? The financial crowd have been way too clever for their own good, of course. Fictitious fiat money to buy notional assets! It’s like living in a video game! Of course, this ruse cannot endure. The people who actually create real value will elect to stop doing so. They will need to be enslaved. Will they stand for it? Maybe, maybe they will have no choice. But what if they just decide to forget about how to make real value? What then? The rubber, methinks, is about to hit the road.

  56. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 11:28 am #

    This geezer gets it right about Social Security. I like this old codger.
    And UFIA, I noted that as well. She implies that printing your way out of it is a solution. Hey, it works for the U.S., so it should work for every nation.

  57. ozone March 25, 2013 at 11:31 am #

    Youses say,
    “I doubt that [the ECBanksters] tugged on an ass hair of the Russian grizzly just for shits and giggles and over a measly $10 billion bailout. Whatever this means in the grand scheme, the line in the sand was drawn right there. This incident makes it clear to competing powers that they could be squeezed out if they don’t muscle up, and I think they will.”
    An interesting development, now that NATO (shadowFUSA) has lost the arms race, I guess the idea is that financial weapons will now be deployed to keep the MIC rape and plunder maximum-extraction scheme rollin’ along.
    Consider: As the You-Nighted States pounded its’ commonwealth down the rat-hole of nuk’u’ler warhead sekyer’dy and all-seeing satellite exorbitance, the Russians and the Chinese were thinking cheaper and MUCH longer-term. Missile tech from the Russians basically negates all the bluster and bullshit of the deployment of the gargantuan war machine and the Chinese have got the poking out of the eyes-in-the-sky sussed and covered. Although a blinded leviathan is still very dangerous, its’ effectiveness is severely blunted. Whose bluff will be called and what dire form will it take?
    As an aside, the questions you raised in your first missive are the exact same ones I ask nearly every day. I guess there’s still too much swag to be stolen for the con to be abandoned just yet. Thanks for putting those questions into a more tangible form; it alleviates the general malaise and frustration of unformed worries in regard to power dynamics.

  58. GAbert March 25, 2013 at 11:38 am #

    For the record, the Turkish part of Cyprus is nowhere near as Turkish as Turkey and the Greek part is even less Greek than the Turkish part is Turkish. Even the family names in the Greek part are unique to Cyprus and unlike Turkey, where family names have been used since the days of Ataturk; Turkish Cypriots still favor the tradition of following their birth names with their father’s name prefixed by “son of” and “daughter of”.
    As for the banking situation in the Greek part, it was already what appeared to be a tidy place for Brits approaching retirement to hide money from the tax man thirty-three years ago when my bride and I honeymooned there.
    To improving health James!

  59. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 11:40 am #

    Great point. I was going to say the same thing, but got sidetracked. It’s all based on perception, and much has gone into shaping that perception, but how long can the charade that is this perception last? That’s the question. It’s nothing that tripling the dose of fluoridation in the public’s tap water can’t handle. Dumb then down to IQ 51 by hook and crook.

  60. Buck's A Stud March 25, 2013 at 11:45 am #

    DEBKA took a fart and the after stench circulates through CFN…all of these Geo-political military “experts” inhaling gas…

  61. cheesemoose March 25, 2013 at 11:48 am #

    It’s snowing in Virginia, the Safeways are full of food, James Howard Kuntsler is predicting the end of the world. Ah, the familiar rhythms of life! How good it is to be alive!
    Get well soon, Jim. The world would be a far darker place without your Monday morning doom-a-paloozas…

  62. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 11:49 am #

    DEBKA took a fart
    Did it TAKE the last one on the shelf, or are there more in the stockroom?

  63. ozone March 25, 2013 at 11:52 am #

    No. That didn’t go over your head. She gave a nice breakdown of the problem, then went ahead and provided an age-old “solution” to it that continues to be nothing of the sort! (Entrenched interests and all that.) Although public, not-for-profit banks make a hell of a lot more sense than Federal Reserve shenanigans for immense wealth reapings.
    JHK has cogently pointed out that all wealth is tied [directly or indirectly] to available energy. Devaluing the representational supply by simply printing more of it does nothing but confuse what it actually “stands for”. (Sort of the same idea as saying technology and energy are one and the same.) Yes, I feel money supplies SHOULD be fixed, but to the right denominator: the ebb and flow of energy and adjusted accordingly.
    IMO, if we tie “money” directly to the concept of the output of human energy, we might have a step in the direction of a realistic “value”.

  64. lucky 13 March 25, 2013 at 12:00 pm #

    You forgot the helicopters, and the trillions
    being thrown out of them, which makes all things

  65. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject March 25, 2013 at 12:01 pm #

    Zone said:
    Missile tech from the Russians basically negates all the bluster and bullshit of the deployment of the gargantuan war machine and the Chinese have got the poking out of the eyes-in-the-sky sussed and covered. Although a blinded leviathan is still very dangerous, its’ effectiveness is severely blunted. Whose bluff will be called and what dire form will it take?
    That’s pretty darned ominous there, bud. I agree wholeheartedly with the idea that these shenanigans have ’bout run their course. Each of these supposed powers are now showcasing their wartime best new techno. But what’s not being showcased is what frightens me.
    Also, it’s hard to take any of the public discourse regarding these issues seriously. There are just too many logical stopping points immediately evident in consideration of any one view. There is simply no substance to the partisan arguments about the way forward through these fucking messes, and the bluffing, in my view, has reached its pinnacle. Another observation I’m trying to express about the surreality of these banking machinations: after untold trillions have been pumped into the system and with banking collapses still imminent, why is anyone still gullible enough to believe “leaders” are still capable of rational behavior?
    Bombs Away.

  66. lucky 13 March 25, 2013 at 12:03 pm #

    ‘What will we replace banks with?’
    No, the question is ‘What will THEY replace banks with? Well, the Bible mentions ‘the mark of the beast’ and we now have artificial intelligence, so….

  67. Chris C March 25, 2013 at 12:06 pm #

    No one seems to notice the water trap. There are no drinking fountains anywhere, not even for “whites only”. You cannot take water with you past “security”. Oh there’s water available! $3 for a 16-ounce bottle. We went to the Pinellas county fair yesterday but we could not even get get the water we left in the car. NO READMISSION!

  68. icewater March 25, 2013 at 12:09 pm #

    “First” posts are fucking stupid.

  69. icewater March 25, 2013 at 12:10 pm #

    Minor case of apostrophe abuse, JHK: “It’s banks are toast.”

  70. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 12:18 pm #

    IMO, if we tie “money” directly to the concept of the output of human energy, we might have a step in the direction of a realistic “value”.
    It will return to from whence it came, slavery. That’s what this statement implies, whether you meant it that way or not. Without checks on exploitation and concentration of value in a few hands, when the fossils (or is it abiotic?) run out, human energy will be valued once again, and thus slavery unless some other very crucial things are changed, and changed quickly.

  71. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject March 25, 2013 at 12:20 pm #

    It just gets better and better in Syria, or should I say more strategic? Whose strategic interests are on the line and who occupies it? Al Qaeda, those rascals! No fly zone soon to come.

  72. ctemple March 25, 2013 at 12:32 pm #

    Most of the people running things have turned into Alfred E Neuman, What Me Worry?

  73. ctemple March 25, 2013 at 12:33 pm #

    Most of the people on this blog, except for JHK have no sense of humor

  74. azgog March 25, 2013 at 12:41 pm #

    Money worries?
    Review the Wiki on “Fractional Reserve Banking”. Your deposits, once deposited, no longer exist except as a number in the liabilities column at the bank. They were immediately borrowed to “invest” in other projects to make more money to pay you back should you demand it, but unfortunately these “investments” aren’t paying off so well anymore. And of course some were not really investments at all, just side bets, AKA derivatives.
    Fractional banking only works if there is full trust and faith plus a growing economy. Since trust in the banksters is at an all time low and growth at $100/barrel oil is a chimera: Houston, we have a problem.
    Total US bank deposits: 9.2 Trillion. Total funds available to FDIC: 25 billion. Ratio: 137-1.
    Total US mortgage debt: 10 trillion + National debt 16 trillion. All US debt combined: 50.2 trillion.
    Um, you guys aren’t going to want your deposits back, right? Or at least not all at once, right?

  75. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 12:45 pm #

    It’s not surprising news, and in fact, DEBKA itself reported back in mid-February that Assad was conceding this area to the al-Qaeda rebels so as to entice them to attack Israel. Afterall, isn’t that what al-Qaeda is about, allegedly? Assad evacuated most of his 5th Army Division troops from this area back in February, transferring them to sure up defenses surrounding Damascus. If al-Qaeda does not attack Israel, it will be validated for all the world to see, that it was a mercenary force of the West all along, up to and including 911. If not, where is the line drawn as to what al-Qaeda was then, and what it is now? Who is their greater enemy, Syria or Israel? If the former, how can that be, given everything that’s been officially alleged about this elusive and nefarious “organization.”

  76. ofthehands.com March 25, 2013 at 12:54 pm #

    Hmmm. Further reason that my tentative plan to use what money I save up over the next few months for a bike and a scythe, rather than sticking it in the bank, is a fine plan indeed.
    I’m sure learning a scythe will make for a good couple blog posts, as well.

  77. GAZ March 25, 2013 at 12:54 pm #

    “It will return to from whence it came, slavery. That’s what this statement implies, whether you meant it that way or not.”
    There are many differenttypes of slavery. For example, you are a slave to your Ego. This is explains the infinite number of posts inflicting your sense of self and it’s infinite knowledge on others. But this is not enough for your Ego. You must claim that you know what others actually think despite what they write. How sad for you. Apparently your Ego also thinks that others actually care what you think or take your opinions to heart and will change their opinions to match yours. Why else would you spend so much time and effort here with total strangers? I challenge your Ego to not post here for awhile and have a face a face with a human and convert their ignorance to your knowledge….in person!

  78. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 1:01 pm #

    Your post proves you are guilty of the very same thing. In fact, anyone who posts anything about anything according to your logic, is guilty of what you accuse me of, including blog authors. No one is going to be swayed by anything anyone says here, even what JHK says. All you’re looking for is validation, and I’m not going to give you that satisfaction.

  79. Buck's A Stud March 25, 2013 at 1:05 pm #

    “DEBKA took a fart
    Did it TAKE the last one on the shelf, or are there more in the stockroom?
    You learned your lesson well Grasshopper; Shrfu Julian taught you well.

  80. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 1:11 pm #

    This is explains the infinite number of posts inflicting your sense of self and it’s infinite knowledge on others.
    It’s its, not it’s.

  81. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 1:11 pm #

    Who’s Julian?

  82. GAZ March 25, 2013 at 1:18 pm #

    The Ego and Id are both infintile by nature. You correct something that has nothing to do with the subject matter. Infintile. You read my post and the Ego springs into immediate action. You then re-read my post and attack punctuation that you missed the first time. Calm down, nobody cares.

  83. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 1:23 pm #

    Also, there should be no is before explains.
    I’m as calm as a cucumber. How much calmer can I be? You sound pretty hot though? I didn’t even mind you plagiarizing my first post to this thread. It doesn’t matter if you give me credit, or not, it’s a compliment to me to know you agreed with me enough to say the same thing.

  84. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject March 25, 2013 at 1:23 pm #

    Fractional banking only works if there is full trust and faith plus a growing economy.
    I respectfully disagree. Fractional banking always works for those clever enough to exploit the formulas. It’s a function of mathematics. Compound interest and simple interest operate in immutable ways. We can’t legislate for or against these natural rules using philosophical predilection.
    Notions of faith, trust, justice, “growing” economies, Capitalism, Socialism, Efficient-Market Hypothesis, are all semantic buzzwords not in the least tied to the natural idea of how interest operates. Any use of fractionated interest calculation will intractably produce a spectrum of haves and have-nots, especially when it can be counted upon that people do not always behave rationally.
    Unless, there is any talk from our dear leaders about abandoning the market system and global monetary paradigm, what we see is what we get.

  85. Rhino March 25, 2013 at 1:26 pm #

    To Janos
    Defending bathroom sex? I regret replying to Carol on it. Why? Because I don’t give a shit about gays or issues like same sex marriage. Bores me to stupefaction.
    Having said that, sex in a public place is not a good thing. There’s a time and a place. Finding a damn room is not too much to ask. And using a rubber. For obvious reasons. And that’s the last I’ll say about it.
    Another thing, you wonder how debased the commentary on this site can get. IMO things have really degenerated. I’m one to talk because sometimes I’m pretty liberal in my use of rude words. And maybe they’re offensive to some. So mea culpa.
    JHK can do what he likes seeing as it’s his site but I wonder what he thinks about the quality of the commentary. Maybe he doesn’t read it. Perhaps he’s live and let live. Free speech and all that. Maybe he thinks “use the scroll key” which is a fair enough approach.
    Most commenters here sounded to me like serious and fair minded people. Assoka wasn’t and I used to cross swords with Assoka because, the way I saw it, the idiocies he propounded have broad currency (mostly on the left of the politcal spectrum). And matters have come to the point where idiocy is an unaffordable luxury.
    But I’m looking at some new arrivals and I’m wondering if it’s worth bothering anymore. As BeingThere said (a really great commenter BTW) a couple weeks ago, there are other places on the web to carry on discussions.
    Some really good commenters are apparently no more. Like Patrizia for example. Sadly missed she is. By me at least. And I don’t remember the last time Laura posted here. Or Jackieblue or Myrtlemay or Orionoir. Maybe these people have better things to do than wade through a proliferation of crap.
    Europe’s wheels are spinning off, the Russki’s are back to muscle flexing, you guys have the equivalent of a Sandyhook every two weeks or so, your banking system is full of charlatans and a few more crop failures and you are well and truly screwed. And you’re worried about bathroom sex? Remember when I said I thought you ought to re-direct your energies away from racism? But bathroom sex? In the grand scheme is it that important a problem?
    And now we’re responding to some wanker who posts pornographic commentary? Good grief. And so, for my part, that wanker is one poster I will no longer read nor respond to.

  86. Rhino March 25, 2013 at 1:31 pm #

    And another thing. Apparently in Jolly Old there’s a growing movement especially within Conservative Party ranks to hold a referendum on EU membership. And apparently leaving the EU is seen as a viable option ie leave behind a bankrupt and dysfunctional union. Wouldn’t the UK’s departure make financial markets do the twist?

  87. WSHancock1864 March 25, 2013 at 1:32 pm #

    Everything is equal parts of tragedy and buffonish, transparent, obvious comedy these days.
    Of course it is, that’s what sells.
    That’s what moves the old product. What product? Any old product Richie Rich wants.
    And the sheep will buy.
    The Sheep, sadly for the coming future of the human race, will always buy what they are told, when they are told and how much they are told. Those who know better, most willstill follow the sheep, for anyone knows not believeing what the other monkeys believe is a very dangerous thing to any recalcitrant hippie question-asking monkey.
    Indidivual acts of heroism such as Bradley Manning are countered by the stone-dead fist of the immutable laws of marketing, advertising, PR, and the rest o the Lying Industry that made Corporate Socialist America what it is today, astride the world like a colossus, and not more than two decades from initiating DubyaDubyaThree, not to mentrion the coming “Zombie Apocaylpse” where at least 6/7ths of the world’s population, by the inexorable laws of math and science (barring the ever less possible techo-miracle pulling the rabbit fromthe hat one more time) has to go.
    Where? I don’t know, says Dick Cheney, they just have to go and go they will.
    If there are two billion human beings alive on Earth by the year 2150 and probably 2100, it will be quite a surprise to anyone with two brain cells left to rub together.
    See, a real capitlist and a REAL human being (i.e. someone who belongs to the top 0.01%, the Aristocratic Gods on Earth, who are the only real human beings, and they number even now less than ten million all totalled) could, would and will figure our ways to profit from all this…
    …not to mention hiring one-half of the poor to kill the other half.
    Actually, thanks to PROGRESS, only one-tenth of the poor will be required to kill the other nine-tenths.
    Ain’t technology and progress grand?
    Personally, I’m already fed up with Corpzi America’s Second Sitzkreig and want to get back to good old fashion evil American BLITZKREIG.
    The wails of the needlessly suffering, laughs of the thieving Gods on Earth are now too quiet to hear and enjoy at proper accoustic volume. We need to amp up the bloodshed, murder and fraud to get on with it.
    I know, I know, Obama hasn’t been “Chosen” to pull the trigger on something THAT cool.
    So we have to wait until at least 2017 and someone of True Royalty to arrive before 9/11 #2: Bigger, Better and BADDER than the original, but brought to you by the same folks who brought you the original.
    Is it possible we get another decade or so of the phony Bush-Clinton, Bush-Obama Reality Show, or will America and Israel finally put on their Big Boy Pants and get this show on the road?
    That means no 9/11 #2 and DubyaDubyaThree until 2025 or later.
    First of all, is it even possible to keep this threadbare fraud going that long without Riche Rich having to push the Reset Button and all the horror it entails for TWELVE MORE YEARS?
    Given what we’ve seen from the Aristocratic Sociopaths and The Sheep Who Love Them, it is definitely possible without physical limits being at least touched.
    However, that is exactly what is happening on Planet Houston, I mean…Earth.
    So everyone, enjoy thse last few years. Maybe as many as fifteen of ’em, as unlikely as that is.
    You’ll know True Royalty when they ascend the throne, then the clock begins ticking to 9/11 #2.
    Maybe they’ll wait for his second term, this time, if we’re lucky.
    But then, damn it, that measn waiting until 2021 or even 2023 for 9/11 #2, DubyaDubyaThree AND I DON’T WANT TO WAIT THAT LONG!
    Anyway, thought I’d get that in before this becomes the usual gab-fest between various false identities, trolls, and Cass Sunstein’s People.
    Seems like DoD shows up earlier and earlier now.
    What is it about Dirty Hippies and Weirdos that sends the Aristocracy into a frightened tizzy? My God, from what I can tell, the Aristocratic Elite fear Occupy and CFN more than whole armies of terrorists, their own paid-for henchemen nd the handful that don’t work for our Masters.
    Crazy. It makes no sense. But it is 99% certainly so, given 8000 years of history.
    Anyway, enjoy the next few years. However awful they are, they are surely better than what’s coming after that.
    I’m going to sit back, as usual, and watch as everything happens just like or very close to how I said. Watch for cyber-equivalents. But he shock and horror will be real striking to our very core, that is how you’ll know, if it isn’t straight-up muderous like the first 9/11 Production.
    And I will dream of the day when 9/11 #2 leads to DubyaDubyaThree, for war gives purpose to life, does it not?
    Wouldn’t it be extra cool if Corpzi America started DubyaDubyaThree on 9/1/2019, a very important anniversary for American Corporate Socialism?
    VERY cool.
    Hah hahahahahaha ha ha aha ha ha ha
    (holds splitting sides)

  88. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 1:38 pm #

    Spoken just like a suit. Apparently your Ego also thinks that others actually care what you think or take your opinions to heart and will change their opinions to match yours. Nobody cares.

  89. ComradeDystopia March 25, 2013 at 1:38 pm #

    Who can figure this sh-t out?
    I know not me. But I’m expecting the worst just the same.

  90. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 1:42 pm #

    Wouldn’t the UK’s departure make financial markets do the twist?
    No. It’s long been established that the financial markets are not tied to reality. 70% of stock market trades are done electronically based on a learning algorithm; one with a goal to maximize trading profits, not reflect human events.

  91. adequatio March 25, 2013 at 1:43 pm #

    Amazing how people who think they know so much about ego don’t know when to use an apostrophe to indicate possession in possessive pronouns and when an apostrophe indicates contraction.
    Thank you, Carol, for correcting GAZ on his/her bad grammar.

  92. Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2013 at 1:48 pm #

    You said it, I didn’t. Own it. I accept your clarification that it was rhetorical. But now you try to give it to me. As Buddha said when someone was insulting him, I don’t accept it. It’s still your’s.

  93. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 1:50 pm #

    You’re welcome, adequatio. We’re just doing our part to spread love versus hate like Clarence Darrow did for Leopold and Loeb in the movie Compulsion. He saved them from the rope for more nobler reasons than a thank you from the accused. In fact, Leopold and Loeb were the opposite of thankful after they were spared. They were ungrateful and spiteful to him, yet he handled it humanely and with dignity for a greater cause, and so, we must also, and we do. Glad you enjoyed the folk music.

  94. WSHancock1864 March 25, 2013 at 1:55 pm #

    Hat to be conceited, but I did, and so did about 100,000 others, scattered about the nation and more than a few here on CFN.
    Bunch of weirdos, I tell you.
    And just like I told you, oh three years ago, that Obama was a shoo-in for a second-term by the Kremlinology, that he filled his purpose admirably by continuing the old Reality Show Script that people obviously like, they keep running it over and over again and no one mins the reruns so long as some new actors are performing them.
    You can say anything you want to me guy, and it will bounce off. Know why?
    Because I’ve seen this all since long before even JHK (at least longer than his blog).
    It’s all coming true, Police State and The Death of Liberalism (not as much fun as you’d hoped now that you’re living through it, is it?), and the world’s similar inability to confront The Smiling Sociopath, exactly as it was in the 1930s when the Germans were us except they were a lot less “smiling” sociopaths as we are.
    Anyway, blah blah blah, beleive what you want.
    I’m telling you what’s coming (the trends if not the exact details) just like I’ve been telling you ever since I came on this blog.
    90% or more of it all keeps coming true and everyone keeps denying it.
    When I was a kid I used to wonder how no one in Metroplis could figure out that Superman was Clark Kent without his glasses?
    Now I understand and it’s so easy, given just a little money, power and authority to awe Sheep.
    Step #1) Make everyone’s playcheck dependent on not noticing. Don’t come outright and say it, that’s bad marketing, but make sure everyone knows that everyone who dared mention that Clark Kent might be Superman with glasses was fired, and what they were REALLY fired for. People will get the message, like dogs waiting for dinner scraps.
    Step #2) get all the company bigwigs and Richie Riches together and explain to them that it is now Company Policy punishable by termination that any talk of Superman and Clark Kent is to be met with explosively contemptuous dismissal.
    Deploy the words “conspisacy theory” and watch the monkeys scurry frightenedly to their cubicles and shut their yappers. Like dogs threatened with a rolled-up newspaper.
    Search your feelings (and your reason), Luke, you know it to be true.
    Sorry guy, I didn’t want any of this to be true any more you did or do. But is is true, 99% certainty now.
    It is now possible, M, that you will live to see 9/11 #2 and DubyaDubyaThree, at least the start of it.
    How cool is that?

  95. Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2013 at 1:56 pm #

    Still trying to maintain the Left/Right duality by raving about the Bush’s being behind it all. Sad. Fail. Why then is Bill Ayers free and powerful if the Left is really “the Left”. The Left is the Right, funded by them and created by them. See? I just said what you said but at a higher level. The Right is behind it all, but you have to get the right Right – the Bankers in other words. Not the Czar who was a Traditionalist and thus not on the Left/Right spectrum.
    Thus the Enemy are the Banks and the Corporations – and their running dog lackeys the Communists – and Their running dog lackeys, the Anarchists.

  96. progress4conserving March 25, 2013 at 1:56 pm #

    Thanks for the week’s work, JHK.
    You must be recovering OK, we assume.*
    “The current bailout deal with its confiscations and haircuts is the first time in the multi-year melodrama of the wobbling EU….”
    Yeah, and probably not the last. One has to wonder how many thousands of pages of documents had to be written, approved, and signed in multiple languages; to put the EU together back in the roaring good times of the early years of this present century? More than one yellow legal sheet, that’s for sure.
    And WHO KNEW that the right to confiscate private assets in a State bank account was buried in all of those documents and languages, somewhere?
    Lobbyists, politicians, and lawyers NEVER use anything but plain spoken language right? (sarcasm on/off)
    Cypress seems ominous – as a bellweather.
    Russia has been down, but never out.
    Europe is a cold overpopulated mess.
    The Chinese and all those Arabs watch with interest, as well.
    There are 7 billion people on Earth. At least 6 billion of them would LOVE to see the US dollar destroyed as a useful World currency – if they could figure out how to do it in a way that did not cause harm to them, personally.
    They may see an opportunity, here.
    Hard physical assets and a smallish community of like-minded people are looking better and better to me, all the time.
    *I do wish you’d continue with the “health reports,” JHK. Personal anecdote like that can be very useful – to those of your readers who have not experienced US healthcare first hand.
    Plus, you’ve got an audience here that seems (absent a few guttersnipes and psychos) to really care about you and your well-being. Good luck to you!

  97. J Lee March 25, 2013 at 1:58 pm #

    Oh Jimmy thinks that banks are so special that they have to do something for their depositors. Sorry to break the news but a bank is just a business. Depositors are lenders to the bank. And when did you as a lender to the bank ever demand security from them. HaHa. Never. So let’s face it – a depositor to a bank is simply an unsecured creditor. And what happens to unsecured creditors when the business goes bust? We all know the answer to that. Except that some governments want to have the taxpayers pay for the losses of the depositors. That’s what the government of Cyprus tried to do to the taxpayers of Germany. It’s just that it didn’t work this time round. So try to collect your $200 as you go around this time and then go home – as they say in Russian.

  98. ASPO Article 1037 March 25, 2013 at 2:06 pm #

    If Scripture is a consideration to any of the Gold & Silver promoters -as it seems to be, suggest some time in James Chapter 5.
    Be that as it may, it is useful to look at Marin County in the early 1930’s when a great number of the homeowners put their home equity up as collateral for the Golden Gate Bridge project.
    If home equity is not operable in our times, it may ultimately fall to the several percent of American individuals and lucky corporations with cash hoards to form backbone of regional infrastructure consortia.
    We so often heard the road gang spout off about America being “too large and spread out to use railways”. It shall be interesting to see just HOW LARGE the lower 48 land mass is when rubber tire transport seizes up. As Jim has written, the highway systems shrink back drastically as things get worse, owing to road tax income falling away. Gravel roads, potholes & mud are in our near future. Is this how we lose the Union of States?
    Maps from spv.co.uk can be obtained for respective regional railway footprint, including long dormant corridors with appropriate passage intact to rebuild rail connectors to communities vulnerable to energy emergency. Railways are defined as “Second Dimension Surface Transport Logistics Platform(s)” in strategic parlance. This is still active practice in places where command & control governments are able to address imminent energy emergency by enhancing transport options & capacity for the long term.
    Individuals reading these lines have ability to research their locale to ascertain nearest rail/truck interface, and imagine food/necessities of life distribution patterns in worst case. Overseas readers can do likewise!
    The genius of railway is the inherent stand-alone aspect -ability to effect in-house repairs to operating line no matter the cause of disruption. We still have ability to build rail motive power capable of using most any known fuel. We have steel mill capacity to do the railway rehab, moreso if we were not punching premium steel into fracking wells.
    OK- back to the foodfight…

  99. Mannes March 25, 2013 at 2:15 pm #

    Jim, I join others in wishing you a speedy recovery.
    My 2C about Cyprus: I have visited it a few times and consider it a potential retirement place. The Greek-Cypriot side is a pleasant and laid back country, with excellent weather, sparkling blue beaches and a small friendly population of 700,000 and all the infrastructure and amenities one could desire (with the occasional water shortage).
    I don’t think that the Greek side will revert to Turkish rule or that the retirees will leave. There will obviously be a “cleansing” of their banking system – although they probably should have pulled the Iceland trick, told the EU to go to hell and let the banks fail. Notwithstanding, I don’t think any of this will terribly impact daily life for most Cypriots and expats … their economy is built on agriculture and tourism, and those fundamentals won’t quickly change. Re: the gas fields those will probably be utilized and not disrupted by the “middle east in flames” because Israel too is most interested in stability for their adjacent gas fields. Israel has a potent regional Naval/Air force and they won’t hesitate to use it against any mischief.
    About the need for energy production to increase to meet generate the additional surplus wealth needed to cover the aggregate interest due all around the world: if energy efficiency increases that could be considered equivalent to a rise in production. Perhaps the savings are not rapid enough to justify the interest rates, but we are seeing an improvement of X% in the gas consumption efficiency for vehicles and industrial production.

  100. WSHancock1864 March 25, 2013 at 2:16 pm #

    Now you’ve got the rough timeline, also.
    Our only hope is that Royalty is not placed on the throne in 2017. That, really, is the final Kremlinological indicator, or close to it.
    It’s as simple as this: Royalty in 2017 = 9/11 #2 and DubyaDubyaThree. Obama-like placeholder, Republican flavor = more Reality Show Script, gradual ramping, and mass psychological preparations to finish getting Americans ready for our coming role as Monsters of The World, prepared to lead the way to keyhole or extinction, whatever our TV tells us to do.
    And no 9/11 #2 until at least 2025.
    The very very least likely scenario, so unlikely as to be almost unworth mentioning, is that Obama will be followed up by another Democratic placeholder (no Democrats, so far as I can tell, have enough Royal Lineage and Breeding, to be anything other than that).
    That’s not quite a script-breaker. All that would mean Kremlinologically, is that the script calls for the Last Democrat to send the nascent Sturmtruppen over the edge of insanity, THEN Royalty and the rest.
    In that event 9/11 #2 and DubyaDubyaThree will probably occur smack in the middle of the timeline, about 10 years from now, plus or minus two.
    But again, that is so unlikely, so very unlikely, and it’s not even the best we could hope for, a 2025 or later start to it.
    Enjoy these next last few even remotely good years (unless somehow all which JHK says can be turned on it’s head and the lie continued, another Reality Show Cycle, in which case the few become fifteen at the outside).
    Enjoy life. The future is coming and not all the blabber in the world can alter these trends, only a massive longshot, techno-style, which isn’t likely coming. Not now. Things are too far comically gone.

  101. WSHancock1864 March 25, 2013 at 2:25 pm #

    Man, you are even more queer for me than Q.
    For the last time, I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU! Stop trying to entice me into conversation, then dinner and dancing.
    It’s quite laughably obvious that you have repressed homosexual tendencies.
    But I don’t swing that way. Sorry, guy. You’ll have to find someone else to pitch to you.
    But I will say this to you, living a lie corrodes the soul, Vladdie.
    You will feel much better if you just go out and find some dominant male to pitch to you and make you feel like a real woman, as opposed to a woman trapped in a man’s body.

  102. lucky 13 March 25, 2013 at 3:03 pm #

    WS, so what else is new?

  103. cassandra60 March 25, 2013 at 3:36 pm #

    JHK, glad to see you back & feisty as ever. Obviously being kept alive by machine for awhile did not diminish your brain cell count.
    love & respect & check you every week, Cassandra60

  104. Buck's A Stud March 25, 2013 at 4:14 pm #

    Anybody been watching The History Channel series “The Vikings”? It’s actually quite good minus some of the Brave Heart influence. And you can catch up by watching it online at The History Channel:

  105. Buck's A Stud March 25, 2013 at 4:27 pm #

    The History Channel Link:

  106. WSHancock1864 March 25, 2013 at 4:32 pm #

    Not a thing, buddy. Not a thing.
    Nothing new under the sun, not for 8000 years and more.
    Oh, there have been gadgets and gimcracks, thigumbobs and thingamajobs, there have even been a few, a very select few, original ideas (and I envy the even tinier handful of people capable of them, ’cause I’m pretty sure I’m not one of them) and occasonally, a few recalcitrant hippies yearning to be free, but a few are hanged, like in good old Kansas 1913 when the Second Coming of Jesus was hung to death on a dusty road, and all goes back to normal.
    F@cking Commie Wobbly got what he deserved, don’t you think?
    But underneath it all, the humid meat is still the humid meat, Aristocratic Sociopaths and the Sheep Who Love Them. 8000 years and going strong, it will ride the human race like a living bloody frothing red foamed wave into the surf of keyhole and extinction.
    It couldn’t happen to a nicer and more deserving bunch of monkeys.
    And what a good thing, too. Could you imagine the horror and suffering if humanity was to spread to other planets?
    Just knowing it’s a virtually certainty this benighted species will never find it’s way to other habitbable worlds, if they exist, helps me sleep better at night.
    Hopefully, the Aristocratic Sociopaths and The Sheep Who Love Them is not an evolutionary condition that occurs often in this universe.
    And if it does, I hope it always dies out swiftly to extinction, as humanity is doing now.
    One last time: It couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch of monkeys.
    DoD Crew has gotten quiet, haven’t they? Is it lunchbreak down in Arlington or are my comments being forwarded upstairs for further HumInt analysis?
    Hahaha. Sounds crazy. Probably is, but in either Nazi Germany or Corpzi America, thinking something is too conspiratorial or too crazy to be true, is a mistake that can one day be fatal (saaay, after 9/11 #2 and DubyaDubyaThree starts?)
    Man I miss living it a world that hadn’t yet been carpet-bombed by nuclear bombs of the mind so steadily for so many decades. Now, our neurolinguistic landscape is a blasted wasteland, either comic or tragic, depending where on which side of history one falls.
    I’m trying to straddle the fence here. It sucks that Bernays and Hitler and Dick Cheney were right about people. Right as rain.
    But they were right, it’s proven and reproven every minute of every day now in Corpzi America.
    One can cry or one can laugh. let’s laugh together, as once again the shadow of totalitarian evil falls across the face of the Earth.
    And not all the American Klown makeup in the world can cover the gruesome madness. Not all the Anerican PR perfume can ciover up the slaughterhouse stench.
    Yet, in all of that, lucky, we are totally lucky to be here and now. This is the top. It sucks that every direction leads down, but how few of the 90 billion human it is now estimated ever lived, have lived as well and comfortably (if not happily) as us?
    Damned few, that’s who.
    That alone is reason to be joyous.

  107. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 4:38 pm #

    Haven’t seen it, but I did watch Rosemary’s Baby twice in the last three days. Roman Polanski did an excellent job with an otherwise absurd story. What a masterpiece, and what skill he has as a director. He built suspense and intrigue through adroit setting creation, scene selection, camera work, musical score, casting selection and rich character development and dialogue. He made an otherwise silly and unbelievable story enjoyable for the intellectual set who would ordinarily reject any realism surrounding God and Satan.
    The reason I’ve watched it twice is because I’ll be damned if Janos doesn’t remind me of Roman Castevet, or Steven Marcato. It’s uncanny. Too close for comfort, in fact. It’s as though Janos has modeled his character, so spectacular is the similarity.

  108. Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2013 at 4:58 pm #

    You are truly weird, defending your simple ideas with accusations of Homosexuality. Perhaps projection on your part? Think about it Nancy.

  109. Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2013 at 5:04 pm #

    Survivalists who live in forested areas will chop down trees to block roads after the Fall. Others will dynamite cliffs to cause a rock slide. Anything to stop the Red Rovers. Large packs will not be stopped by such things – thus snipers will be deployed to discourage them at the road blocks. Larger forces will not be stopped by snipers so the need for War Lords will arise. And with them, comes conscription and/or taxes.

  110. Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2013 at 5:08 pm #

    You are like the fat spinster who tried to rock the baby but only made it cry harder. Liberals and Feminists love the pedophile Polanski. Who cares what he did as long as he has the right political and ethnic bona fides.

  111. WSHancock1864 March 25, 2013 at 5:11 pm #

    Ahhh, the old “I know you are, but what am I” strategy made famous first by the Nazis and more recently by the RW Corporate Socialist Fox News Bunch of nascent murderous automatons.
    Old and crude, but still effective as a Nazi fist-in-the-face…on the dimmer bulbs, that is.
    Pardon me while I cry myself to sleep.
    By the way, “I know you are but what am I” only works on Sheep, which means you’re in luck. You still have a target audience of 99% of Americans.
    But not me.
    Try again. Something more sophisticated, this time, maybe.

  112. Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2013 at 5:12 pm #

    Oh it’s Christ as a Commie again. Great. That’s what we need: more shaggy anarchist/commie clowns singing “Solidarity Forever, off key of course. And that old fave “You’ll Have Pie in the Sky When You Die”.

  113. Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2013 at 5:14 pm #

    Huh? It’s a fact that people who hate Gays the most are usually closet Homos. It’s been tested in the Labor-atory. Guy either come out or shut up. Or better yet, try to overcome this condition with Christian Therapy.

  114. xhalor March 25, 2013 at 5:22 pm #

    “And when did you as a lender to the bank ever demand security from them?”
    Oh My God. Someone actually gets it!
    Yay! Rusty Akula submarines for everybody!
    On a more personal note…
    Carol (…or who the fuck ever)

  115. Ixnei March 25, 2013 at 5:33 pm #

    “the EU bailout money will not arrive in Cyprus until May.”
    Hahaha! Slow boat to *CHINA*!!!
    I swear, you’re liek my subconscious, *screaming*. I think I’m a gunna call you Borg-Y from now on! If that pisses you off, just tell me, and I’ll stop.

  116. xhalor March 25, 2013 at 5:48 pm #


  117. xport March 25, 2013 at 6:19 pm #

    Like Many of the seekers who visit this blog, I love to hear what JHK has to say, and it is both informative, current and entertaining. Much of it has become rehash, as the story never changes, just the cast of characters. We are all waiting for the next big bang.
    For me that has become seeking out ancient wisdom and finding a way to be in this brave new world.
    Let me give you an example. When I was younger, I instinctively knew that things were wrong. Wrong with me, my health, my family, community, country, and world. The problem was that my family educated me and showed me the world that we live in. In fact, my aunt, who worked for Time-Life sent a series of books to my home, and those books layed it all out. It was just after WWII. How do you explain to newborn babies the Holocaust that had just played out before thier existence? But there it was in glossy black and white: naked bodies piled like a mountain, to be bulldozered into a common grave, but their shoes to be saved for the victorious conquerors.
    The current model is to erase those memories and fill you up with the new solution.
    So now we try to find a way to start over.
    As a life long apprentice, I want to find the way, and I have long ago abandoned the Western template. I much prefer the Japanese example.
    When you question everything and seek an answer, you can never approach the master and demand an explaination. You must observe and after a long search, you may find the answer. If you learn to figure it out, then you have learned to approach the meaning of life itself.

  118. xport March 25, 2013 at 6:28 pm #

    Do you still read MAD magazine?
    What a brilliant and satirical journal.
    The figure head for the new millenium was a perfect match for Alfred E. and it will take us another 40 years to get over the damage that the idiot George W. Bush has done to the American experiment.
    I notice that he is spending his golden years painting pictures that no one will ever look at.
    It is a sorry state when our media reports on what that moron is doing with his time, and missing what he did with his crime.

  119. malthus March 25, 2013 at 6:33 pm #

    Here we are heading for the perfect storm and no one seems to see that there are way to many people on the planet. We are overpopulated and very few seem to want to understand that why we have so many problems and crises is because we are to damn overpopulated. Now I know one of you bright bulbs will say why don’t you just off yourself so me and my ten kids can have more. And I say I will if you will.

  120. Ixnei March 25, 2013 at 6:38 pm #

    Lulz! What exactly would you call such a *thing*? Co-operative suicide?!…
    Magic money, spending 70% of it’s time *circulating* in the revolving door of high frequency millisecond *PROFITS*…

  121. KaraokeVox March 25, 2013 at 6:50 pm #

    What a great story about the unraveling of the global economy. The story has exposed a lot about the reality of Europe (no longer a simple delineation between East and West). The Russian knot is very interesting because it’s legally tied into the natural gas. Also, the key point that Cyprus is not entirely Cypriot! A large chunk of it is dedicated to Turkey (US Ally)! It makes me wonder what those old guys sit around and talk about over tea at the local pub overlooking the south shore. In the distance, on a clear day, they may get a front row seat to the imminent destruction of the Middle East.
    They might reminisce about their independence from Greece and their immunity, due to isolation and military strategic locale, from whatever happens on the continent. They can always cast their nets into the sea and pull something out for themselves…sunken treasures abound!

  122. Janos Skorenzy March 25, 2013 at 7:01 pm #

    That’s what I’ve been trying to tell them, but they wont listen. The East never believed that the Political and Economic spheres could be separated. So they made sure that the Political would dominate and not vice versa. We believed the lie and thus the Political has been taken over by stealth by the Private, thus Plutocracy or rule by the Wealthy.

  123. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 7:22 pm #

    The Japanese are a severely repressed and unhappy people despite superficial appearances. This article sums it nicely, but also the documentary Happy covers it as well.
    The Unhappy People of Japan

    To understand Japanese people, you have to dig deep. While most appear to be genki, meaning happy or excited, many suppress their true feelings. Most fear they will inconvenience others by opening up and sharing their troubles. Eventually, many of these bottled-up emotions overflow.
    Japan is known for its high suicide rates and is one of the most “unhappy” countries in the world. For the past 11 months in Japan, I have been overwhelmed from hearing and seeing people suffer from mental illness.
    Last October, I quickly learned about the problems of suicide in Japan when I saw a white blanket covering a corpse lying on the train tracks. Heading home after work, I looked out the window and saw police officers scurrying at the train station. I later learned a woman in her early 20s committed suicide because she’d accidentally killed a child with her car the week before. Not able to cope with the guilt, she took her final leap.
    Recent news headlines have been constant reminders of the mental-health crisis. In the Akihabara killing spree, a man killed seven people in a popular shopping district near Tokyo. According to news reports, he was “sick and tired of life.”
    Only days later, I received a message on my cellphone from my supervisor advising me not to take the local train the next day. Someone posted a message online threatening to kill many people the following day on the Kyushu Japan Railway system — the same one I use every day. This caused many to be on high alert in fear of another “Akihabara.” The following day, a 17-year-old girl was arrested.
    At my high school, where students count down the days to “examination hell,” mental illness cases are as common as having dried sardines for lunch.
    A few weeks ago when I was enjoying my Japanese bento for lunch, I nearly choked on my seaweed-covered rice when the door to the staff room slammed shut. I turned around and saw two teachers hovering over a student who had just collapsed and curious students peering through the closed door. She was conscious, yet didn’t know where she was or the names of those around her. After she was escorted into another room to rest, my teacher informed me that there was something wrong with her mind.

    This is what Rhino suit wants; everyone to go to work for corporations and work themselves to death from unhappiness. This is why I despise corporate people. They’re not doing what they have to do to get by; they’re killing themselves, everyone else and the entire planet, and yet they have the nerve to try to defend that on the internets. Disgusting.

  124. WSHancock1864 March 25, 2013 at 7:43 pm #

    Here we are heading for the perfect storm and no one seems to see that there are way to many people on the planet.

    Don’t kid yourself, malthus. The Global Aristocracy sees it very well.
    And they are moving to correct it as quickly as possible, avoiding spooking the sheep herd so they’ll (as usual for 8000 years and running) not spook until they’re in the chute to the slaughterhouse, and then all the spooked bucking and bleating won’t matter a whit.
    How will it go down? Who knows, in specific? Only that it will go down – 99% certainty at this moment. Six billion people have to go and go they will.
    The Global Aristocracy is just fine tuning things so it’s the right six billion people.
    You know, the Useless Eaters. Unlike our Global Aristocracy, who are Gods on Earth and one of their dogs is worth 20,000 subhuman peasant lives to them.
    And when the coming Culling of the Useless Eaters is over, the Global Aristocracy will re-emerge to lead the monkeys through another round of this cycle, almost identical on a macro-psychological level, as this one now ending.
    That’s IF there are enough resources and the earth’s climate can even support human life by then.
    Which it won’t, most likely. The last human, gratefully for the universe, will almost certainly be gone in 5000 years, perhaps much less.
    Don’t let the door hit the last Sociopath, Priest, and Gullible Sheep on the ass on their way down to Hell.
    Buh-bye and the best of riddance to the worst of rubbish. Maybe Mother earth will try again one more time to evolve intelligence that isn’t poopthrowing and infantile at all levels.
    And I’ve got 8000 years of insane hamster-wheel human history to back me up on this.

  125. lucky 13 March 25, 2013 at 7:44 pm #

    DoD Crew has gotten quiet, haven’t they? Is it lunchbreak down in Arlington or are my comments being forwarded upstairs for further HumInt analysis?
    What would it cost me to hire a techie and sniff
    the whole thing out? Get the proof?

  126. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 8:39 pm #

    All those fifty and younger, quit your lousy corporate jobs and do this. This is happiness. Look at all the smiles, all the camaraderie. This is about love. This is what you were meant to do, not waste your life away in a cube for and with people like Rhino suit.

  127. sevenmmm March 25, 2013 at 9:08 pm #

    A lot of assholes have puckered up since the savings tax news came out. But still, what many of these assholes don’t realize is, at least those assholes not having money in Cyprus, it takes a few seconds at the keyboard to confiscate, er, tax, any money, or what otherwise could be converted to money, showing as digits on their computers.
    In the olden days, the government needed legions of jack-booted thugs to get the money they wanted. This was somewhat of an impediment to a worthwhile nation. Now, its clickclickclick and its long gone.
    There is only one way to unpucker your ass – take the money and convert to tangible assets. I think solar panels are one option as they are at the low end of pricing. And the USGov will give you 30% back too boot!

  128. adequatio March 25, 2013 at 9:24 pm #

    an EU mandated haircut on deposits over E-100,000 and bank bondholders. As for the deposits under E-100,000… you’re welcome to them
    JHK’s post is the first time I have heard that the haircut did not apply to ALL deposits. Having never had more that $100,000 in my life, and believing that we all need to simply, have less cash, and buy less crap, I am actually OK with the idea of a haircut for those who are RICH enough to have over $100,000 in a world where billions live on $3 a day. Especially if it is government doing the haircut to redistribute the money back to the general economy and avoid total collapse.

  129. adequatio March 25, 2013 at 9:28 pm #

    Lucky 13, you probably should not mess with DoD, and I hope you don’t bring back Asoka. I am not missing his 40 posts a day. Heed Ozone’s advice and don’t speak of the debbil. LOL!

  130. Julian C. Lee March 25, 2013 at 9:47 pm #

    “This is really getting out of hand. That’s why the ills of the poor, untoward, tiny crypto-nation of Cyprus have got everyone’s knickers in a twist.

    Jim, it’s lucky that the world is not any bigger and that there are not any more nations in it than what is. Imagine if you were also watching the news on some several other planets. You’d be bouncing off the walls!
    How’s the garden? You needed that garden in mo ways that wun. I think we all do.
    Janos: “You are truly weird, defending your simple ideas with accusations of Homosexuality.”
    It was weird, yes. I mean, here was the post that gave rise to his long and elaborate declensions of gay sex:

    “Still trying to maintain the Left/Right duality by raving about the Bush’s being behind it all. Sad. Fail. Why then is Bill Ayers free and powerful if the Left is really “the Left”. The Left is the Right, funded by them and created by them. See? I just said what you said but at a higher level. The Right is behind it all, but you have to get the right Right – the Bankers in other words. Not the Czar who was a Traditionalist and thus not on the Left/Right spectrum. Thus the Enemy are the Banks and the Corporations – and their running dog lackeys the Communists – and Their running dog lackeys, the Anarchists.

    Talk about out-of-the-blue. How does that post get a guy thinking about homos, gay sex and homo dating? /8o/
    Note: Sayannim etc. often employ gaycalling on any White racialist and especially any nameer of Rumpelstiltskin’s name. Basic tactics. I bet he’s pro-gay.
    Caroloius Spermquist: “Who’s Julian?
    Right here.
    It doesn’t matter if you give me credit, or not, it’s a compliment to me to know you agreed with me enough to say the same thing.
    I see you are having bouts of commaphoria again, Caloronius. These grammatical messies seem to arise with you at the same time as Prig-o-philia.
    Now, to be honest your comma after ‘credit’ was was a bit spastic. It only made your sentence jerkier than it already was. The 2nd comma should have been a period since the last part a complete thought. (Which is amazing in a way if you think about it.)
    No, you’re not the best candidate for the position of Pettiprig of Clusterfuck that you seek, Carolonius.
    Janos: “Larger forces will not be stopped by snipers so the need for War Lords will arise. And with them, comes conscription and/or taxes.”
    Wonderful imagery there. When Homeland Security regiments begin gathering to attack the founding people they definitely won’t be asking Mr. Pornquist to write propaganda for them. He will be back in the rear areas, if you will, washing dishes and other such truck.

  131. Julian C. Lee March 25, 2013 at 9:54 pm #

    “The Japanese are a severely repressed and unhappy people despite superficial appearances. This article sums it nicely, but also the documentary Happy covers it as well.
    The Japs don’t hold a candle to African Americans when it comes to complaining, seeing the glass half-empty, and general unhappiness.
    It seems to me that black folk were far more happy when we were not worrying about them much; before Jews began teaching us and them that black unhappiness was so great and at the top of the list of “problems.” Yeah, it seems blacks used to be much happier before media were telling them to feel sorry for themselves.

  132. Bob Munck March 25, 2013 at 9:58 pm #

    From John D. McDonald’s The Green Ripper:

    [Meyer] shook a weary head. “These are bad days for an economist, my friend. We have gone past the frontiers of theory. There is nothing left but one huge ugly fact.”
    “Which is?”
    “There is a debt of perhaps two trillion dollars out there, owed by governments to governments, by governments to banks, and there is not one chance in hell it can ever be paid back. There is not enough productive capacity in the world, plus enough raw materials, to provide maintenance of plant plus enough overage even to keep up with the mounting interest.”
    “What happens? It gets written off?”
    He looked at me with a pitying expression. “All the major world currencies will collapse. Trade will cease. Without trade, without the mechanical scientific apparatus running, the planet won’t support its four billion people, or perhaps even half that. Agribusiness feeds the world. Hydrocarbon utilization heats and houses and clothes the people. There will be fear, hate, anger, death. The new barbarism. There will be plague and poison. And then the new Dark Ages.”

    Published in 1979.

  133. Julian C. Lee March 25, 2013 at 9:58 pm #

    Addendum: African Americans even gave us a whole genre of “music” that features a black shouting angrily from beginning to end. Think about it. I never understood why a white person would want to hear more than 10 seconds of such stuff. Unless it was something like “Oh, black man! Be mad! Be madder! Yes, yes. You are so oppressed. It makes me feel so good to see you so mad!” That’s the only explanation I have. Sick music that makes both the “singer” and the listener sicker.
    Or maybe we have Sumner Murray Rothstein to thank for it. Whatever you put the spotlight and make famous, young people idolize it because of the principle of fame itself.

  134. routersurfer March 25, 2013 at 9:59 pm #

    Good blog today! Sorry the last few months have been so hard on you Jim. Happy to see the brain box is running true to form. Great read. Until the Billionaires break the Millionaires, the middle class will not get it.

  135. progress4conserving March 25, 2013 at 10:16 pm #

    Excellent post, wardoc.
    And thank you very much for mentioning Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.
    I say without any sarcasm or hyperbole something that I’ve always found to be true – that if you get enough Jews behind something in the USA, that that something is likely to succeed. I’m a big believer in firearms for the defense of myself and my family, so the existence of the group you mentioned is reassuring – to say the least.
    Here’s a live link, because yours didn’t post, for one reason or another.
    Regards, Wardoc.
    You’re an asset to this discussion board.
    And, quite likely, you’re an asset to wherever you find yourself living and working.

  136. Shakazulu March 25, 2013 at 10:22 pm #

    “Welcome to the age of phantom money.”
    Jim, if you happen to have any of that phantom money, can you send me about 5000 units (preferably in dollar denominations)? I had an unexpected bill arrive this week. Thanks!

  137. progress4conserving March 25, 2013 at 10:27 pm #

    “There are many different types of slavery. For example, you are a slave to your Ego. This is explains the infinite number of posts inflicting your sense of self and it’s infinite knowledge on others. But this is not enough for your Ego. You must claim that you know what others actually think despite what they write. How sad for you. Apparently your Ego also thinks that others actually care what you think or take your opinions to heart and will change their opinions to match yours.” -gaz, to “carol”-
    Gaz, congratulations on the finest and most accurate takedown of a new CFN troll that I believe I have ever seen.
    Note to infrequent poster’s –
    “carol’s” posts have some of they style and rhythm of those of the Resident Impediment. So far, it looks like “she” and the RI represent two different real personalities to me – but keep watching for additional evidence to present itself.
    And the RI has rechristened himself as asokadatio, or some such, for some reason.
    Just a head’s up, for those who care.
    Carry on.
    Ctemple ctemple caleb temple –
    Humor is where you find it, man!!

  138. Carol Newquist March 25, 2013 at 10:39 pm #

    I’m a big believer in firearms for the defense of myself and my family
    Of course you are, since you’re a coward and can’t get the job done with your bare hands.
    I bet you have equal admiration for JFC (Jews For Crematoriums).
    You’re a bad joke. Really, you are. Why the hell are you here? Seriously, you add no value whatsoever. You’re a repetitive dullard passing out leaflets; someone wholly incapable of thinking critically. I believe your purpose here, along with all your racist pals, is as a form of attack, and it is you and the same pals that wrote the hate mail to JHK. What a bunch of freaks you all are. Go back to Stormfront where you belong, Mr. Night Rider.

  139. progress4conserving March 25, 2013 at 10:51 pm #

    Hancock –
    You and I seem to be having a role reversal. One year ago you were thinking that the oligarchs would be able to keep antibiotics manufacture (for example) going far into the future. And now you’re thinking the whole shooting match known as humanity will shut down within some certain finite timescale.
    Don’t get me wrong. I see your points. I can certainly agree with them on a bad hair day.
    Present levels of atmospheric CO2 + fossil fuel reserves –> A Disturbing Conclusion.
    But the juries still out, I’m alive and kicking, and trying to help the next two generations behind me come up with their survival strategies, you know?
    And I think you’re a little hard on the Bush Dynasty – to link them to the whole 8000 year Triumph of Despots, as it were. I’d find your Theory of Everything Conspiratorial ( to be a lot more believable if you/we could just agree that the tendency to authoritarianism is ALWAYS present in most every human to a greater or lesser degree. It just needs proper circumstances to bring it out; much the same way that ANY female honeybee larvae can be fed enough Royal Jelly at the appropriate time during development to turn her into a queen. (One of my kids is carrying me along into beekeeping with him – so watch this space for occasional bee analogies in the future.)
    Thanks for the shout back, man.
    And please, let’s try to debate just 2 or 3 ideas at once – instead of our usual 20 or 30. hehe.

  140. progress4conserving March 25, 2013 at 10:58 pm #

    oops, that posted too soon
    I was pushing you for a Universal Conspiracy Theory, when last we met.
    Just as physics pushes for the Theory of Everything. (ToE?)
    Thus we need a Theory of Everything Conspiratorial, aka ToE-C, or something. Needs work.
    Good to see you around the thread, btw.
    Although I do think exchanging
    You’re GAY! No YOU’RE GAY!! – type insults in writing with another poster –
    might just be considered counterproductive, here in the second decade of the (still prosperous) Twenty-First Century.
    Just my opinion. Do what you gotta’ do.

  141. progress4conserving March 25, 2013 at 11:05 pm #

    No, only poor conflicted “carol,” reminding us to use our First Amendment Rights before “she” takes them all away.
    Speaking of which, this is an incredibly easy and fun website to use. Anyone concerned about the coming population population crash inside the US should sign up for FREE and go to work tonight!
    This has the additional benefit of driving “carol” batshit crazy.
    Admittedly, that might not look like a terribly LONG drive – but it does look like a fun one.

  142. xport March 26, 2013 at 12:11 am #

    How do you explain to newborn babies the Holocaust that had just played out before thier existence?

  143. xport March 26, 2013 at 12:20 am #

    When you question everything and seek an answer, you can never approach the master and demand an explaination. You must observe and after a long search, you may find the answer. If you learn to figure it out, then you have learned to approach the meaning of life itself.
    the end is the begining. the begining is the end.

  144. Eleuthero5 March 26, 2013 at 12:24 am #

    We forgot that you bareheaded feminazis can ping bullets away with your pinkies.
    Uh, dingbat, er, I mean “Carol” … they tried gathering up guns in Australia and the murder rate went postal. You do-gooders who want more stringent background checks forget that we live in a country that wants your WHOLE background so they can send drones to watch you … or spy satellites.
    Nothing about you is data driven. Not one single opinion ever offered by you has had a single byte of factual citing. You’re just a cunt who likes to badger middle-aged men. Nothing more, nothing less.

  145. xport March 26, 2013 at 12:24 am #

    Please do not ever be such a fool to worry about money.
    It will never buy you love.

  146. Eleuthero5 March 26, 2013 at 12:27 am #

    I hate the way modern language usurps words that have always had nice meanings in order to mislabel politically correct groups.
    GAYS are a most notably morose group. Their civil unions average 2.3 years duration which makes heterosexual marriage in America look like it’s doing well … and it isn’t. They are far more prone to psychiatric disorders and substance abuse as well.
    They may be many things but GAY is not one of them.

  147. lucky 13 March 26, 2013 at 12:41 am #

    Can you post link?
    And % of the unions monogamous / ‘open’?
    I think its a scam to make divorce lawyers $.

  148. Buck's A Stud March 26, 2013 at 12:46 am #

    I really don’t understand why you choose to demonize the occupational choices of others. If a person wants to work in a corporation what’s the big deal?
    Beyond that, not every person is sole-entrepreneur/business owner material; in fact, most people feel far more comfortable and secure working withing organizations established and built by others. As a result, they feel far less stress and are far more pleasant and agreeable in their daily lives, which is a good thing,IMO.
    Don’t get me wrong: To wake up in the morning and walk out to the workshop of one’s passion and manufacture goods that can be bought from the other half of the globe with a click of the mouse is economic nirvana. But it takes a lot of blood, sweat, tears, talent, passion, and disappointment to get there. Oh, and time and good old fashioned business marketing, too.
    But one doesn’t just quit a gig that feeds and houses a family to go swing on a rope for a temporary thrill and the accompanying grin. Unless, of course, you’re a self-centered asshole and short-term gratification buffoon.

  149. xport March 26, 2013 at 12:48 am #

    Aye Mates,
    Keep a sharp lookout for the white whale.

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  151. Eleuthero5 March 26, 2013 at 1:47 am #

    Buck said:
    But one doesn’t just quit a gig that feeds and houses a family to go swing on a rope for a temporary thrill and the accompanying grin. Unless, of course, you’re a self-centered asshole and short-term gratification buffoon.
    Since “Carol” says she’s been fired from every job she’s ever had and she’s married, I’m guessing her husband lets her be some kind of mandarin who has the LUXURY of being fired. You’re absolutely right, Buck. Most of us mere mortals don’t have the luxury of just quitting a job when we’ve got enough savings for one month’s mortgage. That’s reality. She doesn’t even realize that she’s a spoiled brat who thumbs her nose at “the man” because she’s a kept woman … whether by a trust fund or by a hubby.
    Most people MUST kiss ass to survive but I don’t sense Carol has come face to face with the idea of NECESSITY too much.

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  153. Janos Skorenzy March 26, 2013 at 2:41 am #

    Bare hands? Against armed thugs? Or a guy twice your size? You’re confusing a contest, which has rules, with combat. One is a voluntary game. The other involuntary and possibly leading to serious injury and death. Fairness plays no part in combat and the only rule is Win.

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  155. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 6:57 am #

    Nice try, Buck, but I’m not buying it. As 79iron has pointed out numerous times, the majority of “jobs” that pass for “work” are unproductive and unnecessary, especially “corporate” jobs. It’s mere posturing, meaning otherwise carefree and loving individuals are turned into corporate drones who have to suffer the likes of Rhino and E on a daily basis. E and Rhino think they’re special and what they’ve done in their life has been productive and special, but they’re not, and what they’ve done has been a net negative for the universe, not a net positive, and yet they want to chain everyone to cubes for the better part of their existence so their retirement plans will remain intact. Sorry, I won’t do it. I want their retirement plans to evaporate. It has to happen for ALL THIS to change. Oh, and they’ll never get a chance to use all those guns, and all that gold and spam they’re stockpiling for Armageddon. Talk about scams, what a scam all that is. Get the rubes to go out and buy more guns, gold and food survival kits every time there’s another announcement from the Fed, or every week JHK posts something. I wonder if JHK owns stock in some of these outfits who benefit from fear-mongering? If not, he should; it will help pay the bills from his most recent surgery. If you listen to any of these conservative radio shows, the advertising is directly linked to the content of the programming, and in fact, it can be concluded that the advertising forms the content of the programming, and these talking heads are raking it in at the expense of reactionary idiots whose heads are so far up their asses there’s no chance of dislodging their impenetrable craniums.
    Now, go swing on a rope some Buck rather than defending corporate personhood and tyranny here on the internets. This is not noble what you’re doing, it’s downright unproductive. You have a new career; don’t sabotage it like you have all the others. You only get so many chances; this may be your last. She’ll only have so much patience before she says “get the fuck out.” A real man never fears such a thing, because a real man is loved not for his ability to provide the material, but rather the immaterial. The immaterial is permanent and everlasting; it’s the glue that binds. The material is ephemeral and fleeting; to chase it is to chase one’s tail; an abject lesson in futility that ultimately results in a wasted life with nothing to show.
    Swing, I tell you, swing, before it’s too late. The world will be a better place.

  156. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 7:11 am #

    Most people MUST kiss ass to survive but I don’t sense Carol has come face to face with the idea of NECESSITY too much.
    Ever since I was young, the Holocaust has always fascinated me. For years it plagued me as to how it could have happened, and I spent my formative years trying to answer that very basic question. The answer came to me in my mid to late twenties after diligent research in the library of life. It happened precisely because of weak people like you, who cajoled your fellow man into shoveling human beings into ovens because it was “necessary.” I despise you with every benefiber of my being, and all those like you. I now despise Buck because I’m starting to see through his (or her) cracking and crumbling Little Eichman edifice. It is people like you and Buck and countless others here who make life unnecessarily difficult for so many. Your END can’t come soon enough. Humanity cannot evolve with any of you in place. Keep buying your guns, precious metals and survival kits you morons for the battle that will never come. There you all will be, out in the field waiting (or will it be behind a tree or in a “shelter”), and IT never shows; you’ll be standing their with your dicks in your hands like a bunch of maroons. Idiots.

  157. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 7:14 am #

    Whatever you say, you fat-ass, armchair little sissy. You wouldn’t know anything about any of that except the ability to type it; that’s your only skill, and you’re not even very good at it. Nice shoes, Steven, and such a piercing gaze.

  158. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 7:17 am #

    Finally, a sane post. There hasn’t been one in a while. Please keep them coming; we need to balance the insanity of the gun-nut crowd here with some loving bliss. Thank you for your positive contribution and yes, I agree they are morons, but what can you do? It’s the society we’re living in.

  159. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 7:51 am #


  160. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 8:03 am #

    Oh goody! Can you sign up even if you’re a citizen of the U.K.? How about if you’re a citizen of Wales? I have many friends who want to join, but they’re not sure because the name has USA after it, but yet they still stand behind you and yours in solidarity. United, they’re confident the coloured hordes can be beaten back.

  161. Bludawg March 26, 2013 at 8:09 am #

    Theft plain and simple. I can’t change any of that business, but I can keep on my path of self sufficiency. It puts a huge sense of urgency on my plans. Hurry up my mind screams at me.
    Jim, I hope you’re feeling much better.

  162. WSHancock1864 March 26, 2013 at 9:09 am #

    Although I do think exchanging
    You’re GAY! No YOU’RE GAY!! – type insults in writing with another poster –
    might just be considered counterproductive, here in the second decade of the (still prosperous) Twenty-First Century.
    Just my opinion. Do what you gotta’ do

    Ha ha – way ahead of you, guy.
    It’s called a slip-up: communicating with fools, trolls, madmen, and/or one of Cass Sunstein’s Own, thus wasting life’s precious time.
    Actually, I suppose I was so gratified at how chastened and quiet Q quickly became, I decided to give the tactic a shot on Vladdie Buck.
    Yes, I know, by the principles of advertising and PR, I have just reduced the effectiveness of that tactic by calling attention to it.
    Only if Q sees it. Which he probably will because I am guessing he still reads every word I type.
    But it’s now a win-win for me. Either Qs ignoring me, which is the behavior I wish him to display, or he’s still reading my every word while purple-faced, despising my very existance, which while annoying is still worth its weight in the “return” I get in humor and entertainment, on the rare occasion I should read it.
    Point is, I gave it a shot on Vladdie.
    It didn’t work, of course it didn’t work. Whatever else Q is, he is most likely what he presents himself as: An old, effete, upper middle class octogenarian with aristocratic pretensions and no small amount of latent homsexuality which is likely quite evident in person.
    But Vlad is either a genuine indefatigable nutjob with no life or a clever paid simulation of one.
    In either case, it was a mistake to attempt a maneuver on such a person, who is either mad or shamming.
    But thanks for the words, and please feel free to give them to me again if need be.
    Perhaps, after our little role-reversal, you will understand just a bit more the wisdom of my words, considering that I am following your advice and will continue to do so unless I slip or make a mistrake, which won’t last long.
    Thanks again, guy.
    Oh yeah, and ‘soak’s not posting here anymore. How do we know this?
    He told us.
    And that should be good enough for any patriotic-as-Nazis American, these days.
    Shut up, stop asking hippie questions and obey.
    Whattsamatter with you.

  163. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 9:49 am #

    If any of you are looking for investment opportunities, nuclear is the way to go, not plastics. Nuclear is our future. Here’s an excellent link. We will have those halcyon days again. I know we will. Those masks are fabulous, aren’t they? Every family should have them. We have ours.

  164. CaptSpaulding March 26, 2013 at 10:06 am #

    Last week I was on a trip to Savannah, Georgia. I passed through Memphis, Tennessee. When I returned home, there was a notice from the city of Memphis showing me(actually my wife) running a red light and fining me fifty bucks. My first impulse was to tell them to piss off, but I found that there are 45 states that have signed a reciprocity agreement and your license can be cancelled by another state and it will be imposed in your home state. I paid the fine, but it occurs to me that there is a similarity between my red light ticket and other methods of watching people, mainly the ever seeing eye of the government. With cameras everywhere, drones in the air, monitoring of the internet, etc, it wouldn’t take much of an effort to control the country if someone chose to do so. Hell, that ticket got home before I did.
    Welcome to the fish bowl. Now I feel a lot better about Obama re-signing that Homeland Security agreement. It isn’t coming all at once, instead it’s coming a little bit here, a little bit there, and the next thing you know, there’s Big Brother peering over your shoulder. We already live in a turnkey dictatorship, all it would take is someone willing to use the technology already at hand. Sleep well.

  165. Schwerpunkt March 26, 2013 at 10:35 am #

    I’m not as convinced that one fine day we will awake to a financial collapse as I was in 2008-2009. It seems that TPTB have found a way to kick the ball in the air, and that this may continue for decades, not years. The past several years I have been surprized at how wrong I am, constantly wrong, about how this world is “working.” Part of it is that it no longer follows the rules I had learned, perhaps the scales fell from my eyes when I thought I would be able to study up and understand things and have since realized that the world has indeed become more complicated – not complex, but complicated and ever shifting and increasingly a soft fascism is in charge and those fascists (of all colours) have learned how to keep us just north of TSHTFlandistan. Anyhoo, I enjoy the conversation here and rant on -schwerpunkter dot wordpress dot com

  166. WSHancock1864 March 26, 2013 at 10:50 am #

    You do understand, ya’ weirdo, that by saying such things no one will believe you or even take you seriously.
    No one but other weirdos like me (who is playing Devil’s Advocate here, so please don’t take my tragic sarcasm for a personal attack).
    And weirdos don’t count. Actually, nowadays, no one making less than $250K counts and even those making $250K-$1M are considered gross and lowborn by America’s 100 Ruling Families or the Elders of Zion or Space Lizards or whatver runs this planet, even if it actually turns out it isn’t a centuries-spanning conspiracy, just coinciding interest flowing together as one.
    Trust me, as it was before and will be again if humanity survives to another cycle, even now the vast vast VAST majority are sleeping very well and unconcerned.
    They sleep the sleep of the just, these very individually nice henchmen of Totalitarian Evil.
    They sleep the sound sleep of a newborn baby, Dick Cheney, or Adolf Hitler. Peaceful, ever just.
    Want to know what Nazi Germany would have looked like if everyone was forced to pretend to be saccharaine, goody-goody Mister Rogerses?
    Look outside your door.
    You’re concerned? Well, that’s because you’re a weirdo and Conspiracy Theroist.
    There’s no dictatorship because there can’t be one. Got it? Rich people are too nice and too noble, too concerned with everyone’s wellbeing.
    That’s how they got rich, you socialist playa hater!
    There is no dictatorship because your TV tells you so and tells you more shrilly every day. Only an insane paranoid conspiracy theorist could say otherwise, and no one in good standing should EVER liten to such nonsense as ours…or be allowed on TV.
    There, you have been soundly defeated in debate. Why? Because I say so, and if I was on TV that would be good enough for just about everyone.
    They’d laugh you out of the room.
    Search you feelings, Luke, you know it to be true.
    How come it’s not good enough for you?
    For the last time, Conspiracy Theorist, there’s no dictatorship beacuse if there was, they would say so on Cable TV.
    End of story.
    Get a job, Hippie!

  167. WSHancock1864 March 26, 2013 at 11:13 am #

    Apologies in advance if this seems conceited, but after the last 13 years, there’s little doubt anymore.
    I don’t even argue about it anymore. Why bother? Might as well argue with people during 1932 Weimar Germany. It would have the same effect and releance. Complete waste of time.
    It’s all over but 9/11 #2 and DubyaDubyaThree, and that will come as a surprise to all, except me and about 100,000 other weirdos no one listens to no matter how often we demonstrably call it dead on accurate.
    Plus, ProgorCons, and I care not if you believe me, I have been doing this for many years, not even knowing what I was doing.
    I called the 1987 stock market crash within two weeks. My boss at the time was a stock afficianado, and I knew how the basics worked since my Dad taught me about the stock market about age 10.
    Anyway, to try to be brief (impossible) I went on vacay and said to my boss (for the first time, as we’d been chatting about the stock market for months and I’d not mentioned such a thing, only that I was becoming skeptical at endless rising Dow out of whack with inlation or any number grounded in reality) that the crash was coming.
    So I had much cause to ponder and ruminate on all these things, way back then. I can’t say I followed anything like the kind of Sociopathic Madman’s Logic (which happens to be the dominant form of Aristocratic Logic) I use today, but I still put it together and not two weeks before the 1987 crash, I walked out the door and said to my boss, “You watch. By the time I get back the market will have crashed.”
    And it did.
    So you see, ProgorCons, I have so very much experience at literally being the only guy in shouting distance to see through the Aristocrats’ Bullsh1t, even before I understood what I was doing.
    Unfortunately, I was never self-confident or naturally sociopathic enough to run with the Dick Cheney/Ed Bernays/Adolf Hitler mindset that would have probably lead me to great wealth, power, and not having to care anything about the lives of you and yours.
    But I would have sold my soul and embraced everything I despised. That for me, and even now, would be a price too high.
    And during the course of my life, I have done that sort of thing, seen the long-term future (not in detail) trends long long LONG before anyone else did.
    Just about every time, when it came to the big stuff, I called it. 90% or higher.
    How ’bout this one? I was writing for the college newspaper when OKC bombing happened.
    Everyone in the office was talking about the Mid-East terrorists who did it, and I chirped up, “This was done by Americans.”
    Everyone, as usual, looked at me like I was nuts. “Why?” they asked.
    My reply was weak, but I see now that again, I was not self-aware enough to know how I was doing this really. But my ostensible reply was, “They just said it was the anniversary of Waco. Crazies love anniversaries, so I think this was Americans.”
    And it was. Not very good reasoning, but light years better than the others and also, in retrospect, covering a number of deep thought processes of which not even I was yet aware.
    So you see, it’s difficult to shake someone who’s done that sort of thing at least a half-dozen times about significant events.
    I hate to say this because it sounds so awful, but at least about macro-sociopolitics, I am very used to standing alone, to being shown to be right when literally every single other person in shouting distance was wrong.
    Not about everything, far from it, but about Large Scale Macro-Psychological and Sociopolitical Events, yep.
    Thanks to Obama and the final piece of the puzzle, I now have crossed the threshold of personal evidence and am now wholly 100% confident. I know I could be wrong about the specific events, but wrong about the overall trends, not possible without a miracle, techno- or otherwise.
    9/11 #2 and DubyaDubyaThree are now inescapable socioploitical imperatives for the Supernation Aristocracy. The Reset Button must be pushed when the game is over, if one wants to play again.
    Even if I am wildly wrong about the timeline, unlikely but possible, and 9/11 #2 and DubyaDubyaThree don’t come until after 2025 or even 2030, they will come because they must (barring a miracle).
    There’s no debate or argument now. The Police State is here. Thre is absolutely no legal difference between America and Nazi Germany, in both cases the law is pliant and fluid and wholly unabashedly unequal based on class and to a lesser degree nowadays, race.
    So much has been stolen from so many by so few and the so many are perfectly content with it. Like the Aristos’ deepest motivation is keeping the shrimp cocktail flowing, the Peasants, as Machiavelli accurately stated, just don’t want to replace their Dog Food with something worse, which is exactly what will happen if the status quo is substantially disturbed.
    For do not Nazis and American both worship at the altar of Inequality and Life’s Basic Unfairness? Tha’s the State Religion of both nations now.
    But back to late 2000, I was among the so very very VERY few, realized that 12/12/2000 was a watershed moment in which the Old American Republic, already on life support and without a free population capable of sustaining it, perished.
    I know, I know, that’s a debate future historians, if there are any, will debate endlessly, what was the exact date the Old American Republic died.
    Also, how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? 83.
    We’ve already dicussed many times, that it matters little whether it’s a centuries spanning comnspiracy or it’s all a coincidence of sociopathic aristocrats just being themselves.
    At the ass-end of the elephant/donkey hybrid, if you prefer, they are now One, Living Gods on Earth united to preserve their place and position no matter what, the sh1t’s all the same to us at our end.
    For everything including you and yours, is their’s by divine right. And you and your family mean less…FAR less, than the goldfish in their daughter’s room.
    Why? Because those are goldfish of Breeding, Class, and Taste, while you and yours are Filthy Little Nobodies who will only be missed by other Filthy Little Nobodies.
    No Real Humans (the hundred families or so that actually run America…or something worse) will be affected by you and your family’s passing, so if it doesn’t disrupt the flow of shrimp cocktail to the Hamptons, why should they care?
    Sorry to be so harsh and I don’t endorse it, but you need to keep hearing where you stand in this society.
    So, here’s an idea: Give me one good reason…a GOOD reason that makes sense and can withstand critical examination, as to why the aristiocracy should value the lives of you and yours?
    By the way, don’t bother with these:
    1) Simple human decency. You are not human to them. There is ample evidence for this laying about for anyone not blinded by natural human denial and a desire to follow leaders (which I have as much as anyone else, for I am no leader).
    Which means that no one can see it, almost no one. A statistically insignificant number, like those of us who realized (for reasons other than being on Team Left) 12/12/2000 was a wastershed moment which changed everything (not The 9/11 Show, which changed nothing that hadn’t already been changing macro-psychologically).
    2) Economic necessity. Hasn’t it been amply displayed, though all refuse to see as usual what is right before their eyes, that Richie Rich doesn’t need you. There are far too many of you and me, anyway.
    God Bless Technology and Petroleum, eh? It has, for the moment, made 99% of all six billion earthly Peasants obsolete, yes, even the White ones.
    That’s another thing being masked, but not for much longer. Human Life is the cheapest it’s been in hundreds of years, a natural function of supply, demand, and the marketplace, also only natural since actual Liberalism is almost dead, leaving only a rotting bloody skin Obama wears at State Dinners.
    The charade continues as long as possible, but you must never be allowed to find out.
    If you do find out you will quickly also find out that arguing AGAINST the lines of power will make everyone hate you…even the powerless (who simply adore their slavery and the “My Massas Richer Than Your Massa” mentality, which is how we peasants are supposed to think and therefore, how almost every single one of us do think).
    Like dogs waiting for dinner scraps, we know what Master wants…quiet obedience at the foot of the table until it’s time to dole out the scraps, and then big round puppy eyes of pleading, demonstrating submission.
    But Massa’s already trimming back on our Vet Visits (while cleverly fooling us into thinking we’ll get more Vet Visits) and getting us prepared for the Revolution of Lowered Expectations, while fattening his pockets and buying all sorts of expensive geegaws and gimcracks while we dogs sicken and die so we are supposed to, in order to decrease the now vast surplus population.
    Pretty funny, no? Just like it’s happening in real life. Too many dogs, so many will have to go to the pound to euthanized in plausibly deniable fashion, but most will be killed by siccing them on each other, which is the customary way of Population and Peasant Control for 8000 years now.
    Know what, there’s a few more that I could preemptively take down so I don’t have to bother later, but this is already getting long.
    So give me one GOOD reason why you and yours or me and mine are more than Taking Dogs in the eyes of our Overlords.
    How’s that for funneling it down to one idea to discuss?
    I am enjoying all this verbiage because it allows me to at least have a record of stating all this, not that I have any illusions it will change things one whit, even if things happen EXACTLY as I said down to the most minute detail.
    Humorous, no? Life is that. If it is anything, it is a very large joke..on us.
    So laugh and enjoy these last few years, however many… oh, and give me my good reason why the aristocracy thinks of you and I as human and not talking dogs.

  168. bigview March 26, 2013 at 11:35 am #

    Compound interest has not really been working since 2008 because the world can’t increase its energy production enough to generate the additional surplus wealth needed to cover the aggregate interest due all around the world.
    Say what?

  169. bigview March 26, 2013 at 11:39 am #

    Rehypothecate: Definiton: v.
    When you have to immediately go back to the bathroom cuz you didn’t do the job right in the first place… Cheers to Upstate NY 🙂

  170. Buck's A Stud March 26, 2013 at 12:15 pm #

    You want to pare down occupational fields to things that are only necessary? Well, there goes the jewelery maker,the stone carver, the oil painter etc. After all, who “needs” a ring, carved decoration or a canvass on the wall when “productive” constructs such as the bare-boned Soviet style housing complex provides the essential shelter necessities?
    Unfortunately you have missed 79iron’s point. In fact, he has stated more times than anyone cares to remember that notions such as “necessity” and “productive” are artificial, arbitrary constructs imported from a-posteriori/outside influences such as the theological/political dogma of “no work, no eat” or ‘the unproductive poor get what they deserve’ and on and on the examples could go.
    But I’m probably butchering your point, not to win or gain debate points which mean nothing to me, but only to point out that you seem to be pontificating from a very wobbly pedestal. In other words, refine, sharpen your thinking; less emotion, more calculation.
    You wrote:
    “I want their retirement plans to evaporate. It has to happen for ALL THIS to change. Oh, and they’ll never get a chance to use all those guns, and all that gold and spam they’re stockpiling for Armageddon. ”
    Again, have you really thought this through? If people have nothing to lose after being flung into a state of desperation via a vindictive morality ( yes Carol, you are the pointing the castigating finger of morality) that is exactly the time they would most likely take up arms and inflict violence, random or otherwise. Outcomes, that you ironically profess to abhor.
    And what is my “new career” again?

  171. WSHancock1864 March 26, 2013 at 12:22 pm #

    You said:

    Compound interest has not really been working since 2008 because the world can’t increase its energy production enough to generate the additional surplus wealth needed to cover the aggregate interest due all around the world.
    Say what?

    Wow. Are you truly failing to understand that simple concpet or just pretending to be obtuse to make easily knocked down strawmen later?
    I used to ask that question of pople who said things like that, but now I know there is a third-option.
    You cannot understand not because of an intellectual defificiency (I am guessing here, I don’t know you but the human psyche is so near-universal on the mass and behavioral psych playing fields that I feel quite comfortable in knowing there is a damned good chance my guesses are correct), but because of the Human Discount Rate (Google it, and, no, I am not referring to economics but mass psychology here) and other factors such as your paycheck in some way direct or indirect being dependant on you thinking what the other monkeys think, at least in public.
    Therefore, it is not that you can’t understand such a simple straightforward statement, but much more likely you will just simply refuse to understand, because somehwere deep inside you understand what Questioning the Script leads to.
    And no, I am not interested in edifying you as to what that simple straightforward statement means.
    Your difficulty is almost certainly not intellectual, but psychological. You dare not embrace ideas, or even conceive of them, that would endanger your livelihood and that of your family.
    Which is both amazingly practical, wise, and stupidly insane at the same time, go figure.
    Google “The Prisoner’s Dilemna”, if you dare to understand that which will cause you and your fasmily such pain over time, by the very fact of your acknowledging it.
    So, just forget about that JHK statement you quoted. It’s simply ridiculous nonsense. Gibberish, the noise of barking dogs with no meaning beyond metaphoric eruption of sound.
    Shut up, get back to your cubicle, and stop communicating with weirdos who know nothing about anything. You’ve got work to do. Stop being a lazy Commie, stealing your Generous and Noble Job Creator’s salary, AND GET TO IT!

  172. Janos Skorenzy March 26, 2013 at 12:26 pm #

    I called you on your craziness and gave you a dose of your own medicine. And other posters noticed your nastiness as well. You shut right up like a meek little lamb. And that’s good since people in the wrong should take correction from others. After all, we should only resist public opinion when we are in the right, the real right.

  173. Beantownbill March 26, 2013 at 12:32 pm #

    Funny you should mention this. I drove down to Florida a month ago. I have an Easy Pass transponder and a Sun Pass transponder. I do’t know if many people on CFN use them, but they allow a person to not have to wait at toll booths. When one signs up to get it, they give the state authority the right to automatically replenish one’s account balance through one’s credit card, so you never go through a toll booth without paying.
    Except, when I finally got home to Boston, I received notice that I went through a toll booth without paying and got a $50 fine. Somehow or other, my Easy Pass account had gotten down to zero and did NOT automatically renew. So they have a picture of me going through the toll area and not paying.
    Just another flaw in the system; I’m going to contact the ticketing authority and tell them what happened and that they should now collect my toll that I assumed I’d paid. But I know they’ll just say tough shit – pay the 50 bucks. Nice to live within a society with a large number of fascist bureaucracies filled with little Hitlers.

  174. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 12:33 pm #

    Buck, please stop shilling for the corporate state. Really, it’s most unbecoming. You always assume the worst of everyone. You assume people will become desperate and turn to violence if they their corporate umbilical chord is severed. I disagree. People will be more apt to cooperate and collaborate to survive, rather than compete with, and annihilate each other.
    I understand 79iron’s points perfectly, and how I used his points was anent to his intent. Don’t try to school me on what someone else means or doesn’t mean. You’re not some form of authority, and in fact, I think it’s about time you bug off. I’m growing tired of your little authoritative charade you’re trying to play with me. This isn’t some mentor/mentee relationship we have going here. I am well beyond your intellect. You have no business talking down to someone to whom you should be curtsying. I don’t demand of that of you because I’m not like that, but how dare you act as though you are my equal, because you are not. You have a long way to go to ascend to my level. It’s obvious you’re not willing to put in the hard work it would take, and you know what, that’s fine; it’s a long and winding road, and if you’d rather atrophy in a cube all day, that’s your prerogative, but don’t have the audacity to defend such a lazy decision. Such a path in life is worthy only of contempt. There is no defense of it.

  175. Janos Skorenzy March 26, 2013 at 12:35 pm #

    You can’t take being shown to be wrong. Have a care, Old One. The Trees whisper in the Moonlight. The Lamp posts gently gleam.
    The Take Away: God made Man, but Samuel Colt made them equal. And you’re for equlality, right Lorca?

  176. shorty March 26, 2013 at 12:41 pm #

    Why are you all so miserable……this is an age of unprecedented affluence? Peasants have been relieved from work, and now they have butts the size of VWs. The Costco parking lots are full. Cretins that would be cleaning toilets 100 years ago are now loading 48′ flat screens into their $40k SUVs. The national security welfare state direct deposits free money to almost everyone. The masses of asses can now enjoy porn and homoerotic spectator sports from the privacy of their 5000 sq ft 3 car garage energy efficient dwellings. Look at all western civilization has offered you, and still you complain…..

  177. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 12:42 pm #

    Were you packing heat in the spirit of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership? If so, Rabbi Dovid Bendory (the o in lieu of the a is a nice touch) and Brasco the no-pants liberty bear would be proud.

  178. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 12:48 pm #

    And you’re for equlality
    I have no idea what the hell that is. Perhaps you should avoid sniffing paint thinner before you post; you’re sounding more and more like Fred Sanford.

  179. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 12:50 pm #

    they was unnecessary

  180. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 12:55 pm #

    same goes for of

  181. Buck's A Stud March 26, 2013 at 1:17 pm #

    Carol Writes:
    ” You have a new career; don’t sabotage it like you have all the others. You only get so many chances; this may be your last. She’ll only have so much patience before she says “get the fuck out.” A real man never fears such a thing, because a real man is loved not for his ability to provide the material, but rather the immaterial. The immaterial is permanent and everlasting; it’s the glue that binds. The material is ephemeral and fleeting; to chase it is to chase one’s tail; an abject lesson in futility that ultimately results in a wasted life with nothing to show.”
    Once again I’m going to take the time to point out the erratic, contradictory nature of your thinking/logic. First of all, your paragraph is two messages. The top part of your paragraph reads as ‘get in line so as not to upset the wife/female/girlfriend/ who presumably doesn’t share the noble,”immaterial” philosophy that a real man should posses.
    The bottom part of your paragraph lacks a fluid transition from the top realm of a materialistic female kicking-her-man-to-the-curb into the bottom realm of what a real man should be,i.e, an immaterially minded man who should not fear being kicked to the curb by a materialistic,vindictive female.
    Unwittingly, you have convicted the “materialistic female”, and yourself, for seemingly relishing the thought and justifying the action of kicking a man to the curb man who sabotages his careers. Only the “sabotaging of careers is what a disingenuous Carol has been advocating for; but now, she uses that very sabotaging of career as the reason,in what clearly is a no-win scenario for “the man” to “kick a man to the curb”.
    Vindictive and gender justified on top; altruistic and championing the ‘immaterial male’ on bottom. Your overabundance of retributive emotion has divided the paragraph into a revelatory mirror of schizophrenic incoherency.

  182. Janos Skorenzy March 26, 2013 at 1:19 pm #

    Jim Carrey viciously mocks Charlton Heston – and in the process reveals himself to be a Canuck Scumbag. Heston was a great actor and a fine man. Carrey is neither, at best a decent slapstick comedian.

  183. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 1:20 pm #

    I disagree that compound interest has not really been working since 2008. Compound interest works in concentrating wealth, but only for a time, then the wealthy can no longer draw blood from the rock they have drained dry. If the debts aren’t wiped clean, the whole thing will crash of its own accord. We can rest assured there will be no global debt jubilee, so the whole thing will come crashing down in some form or another, and then several hundred years down the road, some nimrod will get the bright idea to do it all over again and the majority will agree as they scratch their heads and crotches and lick their fingers clean.

  184. GAZ March 26, 2013 at 1:24 pm #

    Hey carol SpewMist!
    By Mayo Clinic staff
    Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration. Those with narcissistic personality disorder believe that they’re superior to others and have little regard for other people’s feelings. But behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem, vulnerable to the slightest criticism.
    superiority complex
    1. An exaggerated feeling of being superior to others.
    2. A psychological defense mechanism in which feelings of superiority counter or conceal feelings of inferiority.
    penis envy (en´ve) the concept that the female envies the male his possession of a penis or, more generally, any of his characteristics.
    Internet Addiction Disorder
    A maladaptive pattern of Internet use, characterised by psychological dependence, withdrawal symptoms when off-line for prolonged periods, loss of control, compulsive behaviour, and clinically significant impairment of normal social interactions or distress.

  185. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 1:27 pm #

    Your inability to comprehend that paragraph reveals you should be bowing to me, but instead you criticize a strawman you’ve erected from your misdirected and inaccurate interpretation of my prose. I’m not going to help you with this since I want you to be empowered to find the meaning without a helping hand; but first you will need to strip yourself of your firmly attached prejudices and sensibilities.

  186. mika. March 26, 2013 at 1:28 pm #

    I doubt very much there will be much cooperation, except by the gov mafia. And really the gov mafia should be called the Vatican mafia, because that’s the Medusa head all the snakes serve and from which they all truly originate.
    We’re being set up by the Vatican, again. (See: Anthony Sutton). Their CIA, their Central Banks, their propoganda outlets, their secret societies, and other subsidiaries are all being guided to guide us towards another holocaust. That’s the long and short of it.
    No need to argue. We’re all partially correct in our own way. We’re seeing different part of the jigsaw. Our emotional and intellectual temperament blinds to seeing the complete picture.
    What to do about this? Maybe it’s enough that we know. Maybe there will be enough of us that walk away (as did joshua bar yosef, z”l) before they murder us again.

  187. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 1:31 pm #

    Don’t blame me for your inadequate microscopic penis; blame your parents for having you.
    As for a reply to what you posted; how am I to take someone with a name like “GAZ” seriously? Change your name if you want to have a dialogue with me. Now off with you. Get a new name and a penis pump before playing in the big leagues, junior.

  188. Julian C. Lee March 26, 2013 at 1:34 pm #

    Translation: “We black men at have big dicks!”

  189. mika. March 26, 2013 at 1:45 pm #

    Greetings, Bill! Happy Passover!

  190. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 1:45 pm #

    the at is superfluous

  191. Buck's A Stud March 26, 2013 at 1:49 pm #

    You wrote that if I ‘keep’ sabotaging careers she’s going to tell me ‘to get the fuck out’. But in that very same paragraph, you laud the immaterial male, or, presumably, a male who has sabotaged careers in order to arrive at ‘the permanent and everlasting immaterial’.
    So what is it Carol: Shape up for the materialistic wife and quit sabotaging careers, corporate or otherwise, or become a real, immaterial man?
    It’s a simple question, especially for one such as yourself, so seemingly steeped in gender duality.

  192. Julian C. Lee March 26, 2013 at 1:56 pm #

    A vacation a month for the Obamas

  193. Julian C. Lee March 26, 2013 at 1:58 pm #

    It stands for “all talk.”

  194. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 1:59 pm #

    Jim Carrey is fabulous. Here’s one of my favorite scenes from Bruce Almighty. Heston didn’t have the skill to do something like this. He only had one gear; overwrought melodrama. Carrey can do it all; he has many gears and many dimensions. Evan Baxter reminds me of many of you here; every time I read something you write, I laugh my ass off like I do when I watch this clip; so similar is the effect.

  195. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 2:03 pm #

    When you question everything and seek an answer, you can never approach the master and demand an explanation. You must observe and after a long search, you may find the answer. If you learn to figure it out, then you have learned to approach the meaning of life itself. The end is the beginning. The beginning is the end.

  196. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 2:10 pm #

    Yes, Happy EasyPassover!!

  197. insufferable March 26, 2013 at 2:11 pm #

    As the Cyprus crisis grows, our news programs are reporting about the GAY Marriage bill.. Who really gives a fk about the gays and how and where and when they want things to go their way. The more our politicians give into their whims the more the Banking robbers are deciding what to do with our money. What a diversion!!! Most idiot americans actually believe the gays are a group of people who deserve SPECIAL rights.
    Wake up america, our financial woes are always sidelined by these ficticious social issues that really have no bearing on most americans anyway. Abortion rights….I mean….another diversion. Not only are men financially responsible for any babies they father but the women who choose to have these kids have all the rights. They can choose abortion without the father asked, they can choose to have the child without marrying the father, they can demand the father pay, yet the fathers have no rights in bringing up their kids. So abortion to me is an oxymoran. Its just another diversion.
    This country is embroiled in social issues that make no sense. So as Jim says the LIES are so prolific that one cannot focus on the important issues. Money, jobs, and the future of our health with regards to honest medicine. We all die eventually folks, so while we are here, we should be making OUR ordinary lives important issues….. JOBS, GOOD HEALTH CARE, and Making money that will ensure our future.

  198. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 2:14 pm #

    Ironically, or maybe not, I didn’t even know that until you mentioned it. I don’t pay attention to the MSM. I get all my news and education from CFN. You’re doing your part in spreading it further than it ever could have otherwise.

  199. progress4conserving March 26, 2013 at 2:17 pm #

    “Oh goody! Can you sign up even if you’re a citizen of the U.K.? How about if you’re a citizen of Wales? I have many friends who want to join, but they’re not sure because the name has USA after it,”
    -“carol,” seeking info on NumbersUSA-
    This is amazing on several levels!
    First, that you have friends.
    Secondly, that you have “many” friends. amazing!
    That your friends in the UK are smarter and LESS racist than you, “carol,” is less surprising.
    And, no, you don’t have to be a US resident to join NumbersUSA – in fact they accept memberships from all over the World. BUT, the purpose is to control population growth INSIDE the US only, so your friends joining would be mostly symbolic.
    There’s something better in the UK, anyway. You have an entire political party devoted to (among other things) reduction of immigration, called UKIP. If I were native to the UK, where population already drastically exceeds available local food and energy – I would certainly be a very active member.
    Most of the core countries of Europe seem to have nascent political parties similar to UKIP in the UK. What this indicates remains to be seen – but I’d call it an encouraging sign that people are beginning to see big problems with the Grow, GROW to Infinity economic model.
    Italy even has a party looking at reducing economic growth, along with immigrant driven population growth.
    “Proponents of the Degrowth movement say that current economic thinking rests upon a paradigm: that the well-being of a nation can only be measured in terms of economic growth. Degrowth theories, often described as anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist, argue that downscaling production and consumption enable the functioning of a healthier society.”

  200. Janos Skorenzy March 26, 2013 at 2:36 pm #

    The Volk are awakening, Mike. Even some of the Patriotards have noticed the large Jewish component to the Gun Grab – and that Israel schools are armed.

  201. mika. March 26, 2013 at 2:42 pm #

    Thank you, Carol. Same to you.

  202. Janos Skorenzy March 26, 2013 at 2:47 pm #

    His kind of frenetic humor wear thin very quicly, at least for adults. But he does it so well – probably he’s really disordered in his real life.
    Likewise, Heston played nobility very well – so well that he probably had a touch in his own person. Now what is higher, better, more important: frenetic humor or nobility? Carol, Carol the vulgar clown.
    Just in from Rush: Chelsea is adopting an African Baby because Bill has heart problems and Hill fell down.

  203. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 2:48 pm #

    All our friends already belong to the UKIP, but they want to join you and yours across the pond in solidarity. Speaking of the UKIP, our friends are full of piss and vinegar over the baseless criticisms being hurled their way by a feigning press. Here’s an excellent example of a hit & run job.

    The danger with extremism is that, when filtered through eyes and minds of reasonable people, it appears ridiculous. The reasonable assumption is that others will view it through the same filter and find it equally ridiculous. But, while The Reasonable laugh, support for extremist views creeps up. Because what The Reasonable failed to notice is that fear and insecurity have a way of robbing others of reason.
    Ukip’s manifesto is a collection of promises selected, seemingly, on the basis of “twenty things that really annoy people”, with no inkling of implementation method or any costings; a wish list for The Annoyed.
    Scared of immigrants? Vote Ukip.
    Insecure about the financial crisis? Vote Ukip.
    Hate the smoking ban, HS2, Brussels, travellers, burqas, regulation, tax, Boris, debt, wind farms, quangos, foreign aid, crime, Abu Qatada, tuition fees, lazy people, Muslims, foreigners, the hunting ban? Vote Ukip.
    The real danger of Ukip becoming a serious contender for coalition partnership in 2015 is gleefully ignored by the centre-left (because, after all, they are damaging the Tories) and dealt with by the centre-right by shifting closer to their extremes; by copying their policies and rhetoric. Everything from the EU referendum and citizenship tests (pdf) to Theresa May’s – and I’m not making this up – imbecilic tales of cat loving, illegal immigrants.
    In other words, not only is nobody challenging their vitriol, but they are being allowed to set the political agenda.
    Meanwhile their oleaginous leader, whom the British media have taken to calling “charismatic”, is invited to appear on every news programme. This is, apparently, in order to provide balance on European matters – which is like inviting a creationist to give their view every time a story breaks about dinosaur fossils.

  204. mika. March 26, 2013 at 3:09 pm #

    Vlad, maybe in your mind some ignorant jooish schmuck hired by the Vatican mafia makes for “a large Jewish component”, but that’s where it ends — it’s just some ignorant schmuck hired by the Vatican mafia. There are plenty of them from each and every ethnic group. You want to scapegoat millions of people on the basis of some ignorant jooish schmuck hired by the Vatican mafia, that’s your hang up. I understand your game. It’s the same game the Vatican mafia is playing and been playing for a long long time. We know that game, and yet you persist, so what does that say about you.
    Btw, check out our new immigrant hottie, Ruth, at 3:22 min of the vid: http://YOUTU.BE/XK3AUINT4VY

  205. Rhino March 26, 2013 at 3:32 pm #

    Don’t know if you guys noticed but there are accounts surfacing of the Russians having gotten their loot out of Cyprus via UK offices of those same Cypriot banks that were closed to the general public. Apparently there were no limits to how much could be gotten out.
    Where were all the tall euro foreheads running things? Maybe they – ahem – didn’t notice all that Russian money flowing out. Maybe they chose to not notice. Maybe they know better than to tangle with Russian gangsters. Maybe Putin did some sabre rattling on behalf of some close friends and associates.
    A Dutch finance minister just said that this is the template for dealing with future bank failures. Well. Does the template include preferential treatment for connected depositors? Like Russian oligarchs who have as a friend a former KGB man at the helm of the Russian state? Which is armed to the teeth with nukes?
    What astonishes me right now is the apparent apathy over all this. No guillotines as yet in public squares. But nevermind that. There are bigger questions. I heard that Slovenia is about to go swirling down the drain. So what about their banks?
    What’s that you say? Slovenia is too small to matter? So Greece is too small to matter, Cyprus is too small to matter, Slovenia is too small to matter. Great. So when do all these too small to matter countries start to matter?

  206. Julian C. Lee March 26, 2013 at 3:38 pm #

    You don’t live in the U.K.
    Talk about “feigning.”
    Give up.

  207. Julian C. Lee March 26, 2013 at 3:40 pm #

    (That above was directed to Callowronius Spermquist who wants us to think he is a White woman living in England for better anti-racist psychological effect.)

  208. Jam47 March 26, 2013 at 3:42 pm #

    Not only is Newquist confusing a contest with no-rules combat, she’s slandering war combatants as well. Taking her absurd argument to its absurd conclusion, the tens of millions of men who, bearing arms, have gone into history’s hundreds of battles to fight to the death, are cowards, are cowards BECAUSE they bear arms.
    Newquist’s foolishness comes from her limited experience of life. It’s obvious.
    What Newquist needs is a two month stay in a Kingston ghetto–and I’m talking about Kingston, Jamaica. She’d smarten up right quick. If nothing else, she’d temper her endless blather about racism.

  209. GAZ March 26, 2013 at 3:53 pm #

    …one more time, because it FEELS GOOOOD!
    Hey carol SpewMist!
    By Mayo Clinic staff
    Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration. Those with narcissistic personality disorder believe that they’re superior to others and have little regard for other people’s feelings. But behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem, vulnerable to the slightest criticism.
    superiority complex
    1. An exaggerated feeling of being superior to others.
    2. A psychological defense mechanism in which feelings of superiority counter or conceal feelings of inferiority.
    penis envy (en´ve) the concept that the female envies the male his possession of a penis or, more generally, any of his characteristics.
    Internet Addiction Disorder
    A maladaptive pattern of Internet use, characterised by psychological dependence, withdrawal symptoms when off-line for prolonged periods, loss of control, compulsive behaviour, and clinically significant impairment of normal social interactions or distress.

  210. Chuck Kollars March 26, 2013 at 4:02 pm #

    One sentence particularly caught my curiosity: “Compound interest has not really been working since 2008 because the world can’t increase its energy production enough to generate the additional surplus wealth needed to cover the aggregate interest due all around the world.”
    Where can I learn more? Where can I find something similar to “The Economy for Dummies” or an “Econ 101 Textbook” that covers:
    1) The relevance of the _aggregate_ world-wide economy (growth of total wealth, total money supply, total interest, cash vs. real estate vs. capital goods, etc.)?
    2) The relationship between our «Financial System» (banking, investment, accumulation, etc.) and «Energy Production» (renewable resources, fossil fuels, etc.)?

  211. Buck's A Stud March 26, 2013 at 4:06 pm #

    OK,now you’re beginning to sound very familiar, and I don’t mean Asoka familiar.
    Or perhaps Vlad was an easy mime for you. In which case, he should feel flattered, as you’re obviously channeling his more esoteric aspects.

  212. Beantownbill March 26, 2013 at 4:07 pm #

    Shalom, Mika. I hope you have a great Passover as well. What have you been doing with yourself these many months?

  213. Jam47 March 26, 2013 at 4:24 pm #

    You spent a decade investigating the causes of the Jewish holocaust. You discovered it has only one cause, not several. And this one and only cause is that weak people cajoled other people (but not the strong, since they’d be resistant to cajoling) to shovel yet other people into the ovens. Have I got that right? I probably haven’t. You’re talking in code. You couldn’t literally mean what you actually wrote.
    Someone unfamiliar with the details of Hitler’s murder camps would get the impression–after reading your post–that the Jews were burned to death in ovens rather than gassed to death in gas chambers. Maybe that’s what you think yourself.
    You’re an internet-age type. No Google, no knowledge.

  214. notaneoliberal March 26, 2013 at 4:46 pm #

    Try this; http://ourfiniteworld.com/

  215. lucky 13 March 26, 2013 at 4:48 pm #

    Gabby Giffords step daughter has an assault dog
    that killed a protected species at Laguna beach.
    see Drudge and Youtube for more info.

  216. lucky 13 March 26, 2013 at 4:56 pm #

    Do you mean Miss depo-provera?

  217. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 4:57 pm #

    I see you still haven’t made the final cut, Martin. Jesus, are you ever the procrastinator. Or maybe your suicide talk is all a ruse to get attention. I know there’s the Long Emergency, but now we have the Long Suicide. Now get along and make dinner for your lesbian wife before she kicks your ass you little pussy.

  218. Janos Skorenzy March 26, 2013 at 4:59 pm #

    The story has changed a number of times. In some versions, they were electrocuted. In any case, no smoking chimneys were ever seen, nor any real gas chambers except very small ones meant for delousing clothes. The so called gas chambers were built after WW2 for the tourist industry then being developed.

  219. Janos Skorenzy March 26, 2013 at 5:05 pm #

    You people have miscalculated: the Patriotards love their guns even more than they love the Jews. Take away Christmas, the First Ammendment, their right to vote etc, but their guns? Oh Dude, bad mistake.
    Torquemada, the famous Inquisition Proscecutor, was a quarter Jewish. The Jews had presented King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella with a huge amount of gold if they would relent from their edict of expulsion. They were wavering when Torquemada rushed in and threw his crucifix on the pile exclaiming, There, you have crucified Christ again. Deeply ashamed, the King went ahead with the expulsion.

  220. Chuck Kollars March 26, 2013 at 5:13 pm #

    Thanks! Any other pointers? (more than one source is always preferable:-)
    In particular, anything from another point of view that’s a little more Economics and a little less Peak Oil?

  221. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 5:30 pm #

    You couldn’t literally mean what you actually wrote.
    Bingo! I do believe you’re getting it. Maybe. But if you are, you can only feel your way around it indirectly, and unfortunately never see it. You don’t have the capacity, obviously. My interaction with you indicates that something is severely lacking in your mental and emotional make-up. There is obvious intelligence, but that intelligence is not grounded in the firmament of morality. As a result, you have been a petty, insecure and often cruel pedant masquerading as an authority until your wife comes home and kicks your ass.
    Janos can’t literally mean what he writes here. Georgia Militia Man can’t either. But not a peep from you. You either agree with their nonsense that can’t be taken literally, or you’re a coward who hides behind other cowards with guns because they have no balls. I think it’s the latter.

  222. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 5:32 pm #

    Is this Dubya? If not, I’ll be damned; you’re a spitting image.

  223. shorty March 26, 2013 at 5:47 pm #

    Kunstler tapped out yet…or does the death watch continue?

  224. Eleuthero5 March 26, 2013 at 5:52 pm #

    Buck said to Carol:
    Once again I’m going to take the time to point out the erratic, contradictory nature of your thinking/logic.
    You’re repeating something I’ve said to her about five times. She commits logical fallacies all the time but her favorite is “If one, then all” e.g., “If one corporation is corrupt, every one is corrupt” or “If one corporation is corrupt and you work for a corporation YOU are corrupt”.
    This is what passes for “thinking” to her mind. I gave up long ago. I actually get along with many progressives here (like BeingThere) and in my real life outside of CFN. The key to me is intellectual honesty and respect for data and evidence.
    Carol is a classic ideologue. She comes to sweeping “truths” that aren’t true but, as in the manner of Orwell’s Pigs, simply repeats them often and shrilly hoping they’ll turn into truths.
    As is often the case with such ideologues, they appear divorced from the real world that non-mandarins have to live in on a day to day basis where we, for example, just quit our job for ideological reasons ’cause we have to SURVIVE. She also has a certain self-admiration for the literary panache that she adds to her posts as if that makes the illogic more palatable or more true.

  225. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 6:03 pm #

    Jam47, it’s time for you to put up or shut up. The only time you post is to attack me, yet you have nothing to say independent of that. It would be simple for me to create a sockpuppet that is used against any poster in particular as an attack dog and that would be its only purpose. I think that’s what’s going on. However, you’ve given yourself up with your style and the word “flavour.” You’re not U.S., so tell me, what the hell are you doing here in a comments section with a bunch of “American” racist goons presumably taking their side in a charade that can’t be taken literally? It’s your turn to answer questions, and I have a ton of them. Start putting up. We all want to see your opinion on this most important, life and death matter of collapse and how race and immigration play a part in that. Come on tough guy, let’s see what you’ve got, or do you only pick on woman your own size?

  226. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 6:05 pm #

    You’ve been mentioning Mandarin so much, I now have a craving for one. This past month the local Farmer’s Market has had a great selection from California (say it like Arnold). They’ve been divine. Thanks for reminding me.

  227. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 6:09 pm #

    “If one corporation is corrupt, every one is corrupt” or “If one corporation is corrupt and you work for a corporation YOU are corrupt”.
    I never said anything about corporations being corrupt. That is a lie. You are a liar, but that’s not surprising, being you’re an academician.

  228. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 6:13 pm #

    Once again I’m going to take the time to point out the erratic, contradictory nature of your thinking/logic.
    Once again, I will point out that Buck is no stud. Quite the contrary. He’s a wuss.

  229. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 6:28 pm #

    This is an example of an excellent post, and thanks for the heads up. I considered it a strong possibility that they would find a backdoor for the wealthy Russian depositors, just as the Vatican was a backdoor for the Nazi Ratlines.

  230. notaneoliberal March 26, 2013 at 6:35 pm #

    Well Chuck, I linked that site because it has articles that give an answer to many of the specific question you asked, and does so in plain non-technical language. I’m not sure what your starting point is. You could read the works of Keynes if you want to know how the economy used to work. If you want a “different point of view” as in the idea that “all is good” and peak oil is no big deal, read what People like Paul Krugman have to say. If you try to separate energy availability from economy, you are making the same mistake that many, if not most economists make imo.

  231. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 6:47 pm #

    This article from the Christian Science Monitor sums it up nicely. This would explain Putin’s about face, or uncharacteristic silence on the issue this week. The Oligarchs’ money was withdrawn not through Europe, but through the fact one of the Cyrus Banks in question owns 80% of a Russian Bank that allowed wealthy Russians to extract their funds last week as this was going down. The locals will take it on the chops, and nuclear war is averted until a later date. Make sure to keep your rain check safe.

    But even if a lot of Russian money once resided in the exposed banks, it may have since been withdrawn, argues the independent Center for Research on Globalization in Montreal, Canada. The wealthiest Russians – who would be those closest to the Kremlin – may have used the political chaos of last week to quietly spirit their money out of Cyprus through a major loophole: the Bank of Cyprus owns 80 percent of a Russian bank, Uniastrum Bank, which placed no restrictions last week on how much cash its Russian depositors could withdraw.
    “In other words, by now any big Russian funds in Cyprus are long gone, and the only damage accrues to the locals,” the report says.

  232. Eleuthero5 March 26, 2013 at 6:55 pm #

    Carol said:
    Once again, I will point out that Buck is no stud. Quite the contrary. He’s a wuss.
    Wrong again!! While I’ve had strident disagreements with Buck, he’s not just a raving, doctrinaire progressive like you. It takes much more guts to think about issues on an issue-by-issue basis because the extremists attitude is: “Believe in every plank or we throw you out of the club.”
    The authentic person, the brave person, is the person who THINKS about each and every issue and comes to conclusions which do not perfunctorily adhere to some “ism” every time.
    Buck is a grown-up. You … are not. Your extremism is extremely pubescent.

  233. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 7:03 pm #

    Oh please! If you must lick ass, do it behind closed doors or in a public restroom.
    Buck’s not a stud because there are no studs. It’s a nonsensical term that derives from a highly insecure phenomenon called machismo. It’s something men do to impress each other, rather than a woman, since women have exhaustively insisted they don’t go for the macho types. In that sense, it’s rather gay, but that’s alright; if you’re gay, no problem, just don’t try to hide it behind silly, fabricated hyper-masculinity.

  234. Buck's A Stud March 26, 2013 at 7:23 pm #

    Yes, E, you’re correct about Carol; although I’m not convinced Carol is really a female. I suspect “Carol” just might be an angry, disenfranchised male as a result of being kicked to the curb by an ex who did not admire his militant stance against ‘those who butter the bread’. I also suspect Carol lives rent free with a relative, and CFN is now the equivalent to a diversionary Devil’s Workshop. I say that because Carol obviously is no fan of the elderly and yet as an apparent young person, Carol has so much free time to in which to incessantly post on CFN.
    And as far as “literary panache”, Carol writes well enough but she/he will never plumbs the depths. Her lightweight prose, in the manner of a discarded “Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman” script, is the result of stereotypical preconceptions that never quite allow the tea leaves of psychological insight to be steeped in the waters of incisive insight. Thus she keeps popping up on the top surface angry and accusatory, a steaming intellectual (wannabe?) unable to penetrate the deeper realms of the true visionary.
    Well, that’s probably enough of “Carol” as far as I’m concerned.

  235. Buck's A Stud March 26, 2013 at 7:32 pm #

    And speaking of “lightweight prose” ( and the typos) I repeated myself unnecessarily. Wouldn’t “the tea leaves of psychological insight to be steeped in the waters of incisive insight” be far better expressed as “the waters of incisive profundity” or a million other phrases.
    And yet I landed in a repetitive rut lacking that variety guided by harmony that real writers posses. But then again, I’m certainly no aspiring novelist or anything remotely resembling a professional writer.

  236. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 7:39 pm #

    Well, that’s probably enough of “Carol” as far as I’m concerned.
    Is that a promise? Let’s see how grown up you really are and if you’re truly a “man” of your word. Face it, you’ve been loofahed.

  237. Buck's A Stud March 26, 2013 at 7:49 pm #

    lol…you foaming at the mouth reactionary – you dumbass – you can’t even recognize a back handed compliment because of your presumptuous pomposity:
    Now watch the below and decide if this is a ‘lightweigh script’:

  238. Carol Newquist March 26, 2013 at 8:05 pm #

    You are in no position to criticize anyone’s prose, so why are you? Have I criticized your prose? No, I haven’t. Ever. Nor would I. Why do you criticize mine? Frankly, I don’t mind criticism when it’s genuine, but nothing I’ve seen from anyone here is genuine criticism of my prose. It’s all been malicious and condescending. Did I ask you for your opinion on how I write? No, I didn’t. I deposited bits and sections of a novel in its infancy for anyone’s enjoyment who might take the time to read it. If you don’t want to read it, don’t. But it’s not “grown up” to read it and then maliciously partake in a gang bang of criticism against the author to score points for other things that are going on in the thread. That’s immature. That’s cowardice. That’s a punk. That’s why I have no respect for you. That’s why I want you to shove off. Your opinion means nothing to me, and you have shown your true colours. Janos has been intelligent and mature enough to not use it as a weapon. I don’t give people credit for much, but I give him credit for that. I can’t say the same about you, or Jam47 or E. That’s why you’re a weakling. That’s why your not a stud. You went for the low blow, but you know what, who cares, anyway? Not me. Not anymore. Otherwise, I wouldn’t post here, especially not a novel in its infancy.

  239. Zed Leppt In March 26, 2013 at 8:40 pm #

    Any Three Stooges fans here who remember when the dim-witted trio were in a sinking rowboat? Finding a hand-crank auger, Curly has a brainstorm and starts drilling holes in the bottom of the boat, “to let the water back out” he explains to an incredulous Moe. It seems that congress uses similar logic when trying to stop the leakage of money out of its own treasury. Companies that operate domestically, using all the publicly funded elements of civil society, can legally shift their profits to offshore tax havens. Google, for instance, has its intellectual property rights registered in Bermuda. Profits on this property are funneled through Ireland to a shell company in the Netherlands, then on to what is legally their administrative HQ on the tiny British territory. Offshore administrative headquarters is usually code for “We have a P.O. box there that forwards our mail for us”. For example, in the capitol of the Cayman Islands (a one hour flight from Miami) a small, nondescript office building called Upland House is the legal administrative address for over 12,000 foreign companies.
    Rather than try to stop up all those taxable revenue leaks by requiring companies to pay their fair share of taxes, congress comes up with complex schemes like the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA). This law is to be used to tax the offshore bank accounts of US citizens, requiring the voluntary cooperation of foreign financial Institutions (FFIs) to declare their holdings to the IRS. In other words, use a bureaucratically dense mechanism to claw back a little of what shouldn’t have left in the first place. Non-complying FFIs face a penalty of seizure of US assets equal to 30% of the value of the undeclared offshore accounts. This has resulted in some foreign banks refusing to accept US clients, citing onerous regulations as the reason. Those clients will likely seek out more secretive banking locales. The irony in all this is that foreigners use US banks to hide their assets from their own governments. And there are tax haven states within the US, like Delaware, which has more registered Limited Liability Corporations than residents. Companies that transact no business within the state pay only a franchise fee, no corporate taxes.
    Then there is the 2300 page Dodd-Frank bill which was touted as a clean -up of the banking regulations and would prevent another financial meltdown requiring a taxpayer bailout. The lobbyists and lawyers have been drilling loopholes in this bill since its introduction in 2010. Matt Taibbi, writing in Rolling Stone, compares Dodd-Frank to the giant marlin that was reeled in after a heroic struggle in “The Old Man and the Sea”, eaten away to mere bones by marauding sharks before it ever reached port. One of the biggest loopholes here will allow the same banks to gamble in the same way with the same risky derivatives, only using offshore branches. Lobbyists know that if they can get just a few key Democrat and Republican legislators to sign off on bill amendments, the rest will follow suit without even reading them, having long since having succumbed to legalese fatigue.
    As the ship of state lists ever more precariously, for every heroic effort to organise a bucket brigade, there is a platoon of busy numb-skulls down in the bilge, drilling away at the hull, betting that they’ll slip away with last life preservers just before the whole thing goes gurgling down into the abyss.

  240. Zed Leppt In March 26, 2013 at 8:41 pm #

    Bicycle riders should take note of a recent email exchange between Washington state representative Ed Orcutt and a Tacoma bike shop owner that was reported in the LA Times. Orcutt was trying to justify a proposed state tax on new bikes and a bike registration fee. Cyclists get free use of the roads while drivers pay registration fees, gas taxes, etc., goes the argument – some merit to that I suppose and he should have stopped there. But he went on to argue that since cycling raises the rider’s heart rate and breathing rate, they are expelling far more carbon dioxide, the very same pollutant emitted by cars, coal-fired power plants, gas well flare-offs, and all those other polar bear murdering instruments of global catastrophe. Therefore, they should pay their fair share for contributing to global warming. To be fair, the article didn’t show the full text of the email, so there may have been some out-of-context exaggeration on the part of the Times. But, I can see where this would be held up as a pretty sensible argument in some social quarters. “I see all dem spandex wearin’ joggers out there a-sweatin’ and a-gaspin’, why dunna we tax their shoes?”
    How does the Beattles’ “Taxman” song go?
    If you drive a car, I’ll tax the street,
    If you try to sit, I’ll tax your seat,
    If you get too cold, I’ll tax the heat,
    If you take a walk, I’ll tax your feet.

  241. GAZ March 26, 2013 at 8:46 pm #

    …ooohhhhhh shit! That last paragraph got a little sloppy.

  242. Zed Leppt In March 26, 2013 at 9:13 pm #

    I’ve long since forgotten the Mary Hartmam, Mary Hartman show – what great series that was. Thanks for the clip. BTW, there seems to be a fair bit of “waxy yellow buildup” around here as well latey.
    For rather a more snide view of this “subject”, are you familiar with the dinner party scene in the 1989 film “How to get ahead in Advertising”?
    Actor and world-class sneerer Richard E. Grant takes on a shrewish guest who is wearing on his inebriated nerves. The scene ends at the 3:20 mark in this clip.

  243. progress4conserving March 26, 2013 at 9:32 pm #

    “….just a raving, doctrinaire progressive like you. It takes much more guts to think about issues on an issue-by-issue basis because the extremists attitude is: “Believe in every plank or we throw you out of the club.””
    -E5, concerning “carol”-
    Good points, E. It was a sad slide that took political discourse in the US to it’s present nadir – where political groups are the equivalent of armed camps checking for orthodoxy at the door and refusing to talk to “enemy” camps.
    I blame (as I do most things, political) events during the Reagan administration, say about the time he got shot and Tip O’Neil said “we better roll over and give Reagan whatever he wants, boys.
    Others will blame Johnson, or Nixon’s Southern Strategy, or the killing of all those Kennedy’s.
    Whatever – we’ve certainly been led around by the nose by multiple dipwads and at the mercy of “current events” for the past 49 years or longer.
    And, unfortunately, the genie of dipwad leadership isn’t going back into that bottle.
    Now, concerning “carol,” E – I think you are giving her far more credit than “she” deserves when you say of her that she’s, “..just a raving, doctrinaire progressive….”
    That may be, but the whole time she’s been here, I’ve never seen her actually advance OR defend one single progressive issue. Not one.
    Nor have I seen her criticize a single issue, present evidence, or marshal an argument (logical or otherwise) concerning ANY issue of which “she,” in Her Magnificent Perfection, disapproves.
    Looking back – all there is to “carol’s” posts is name-calling and vitriol against anyone who voices opposition to a hidden slate of “ideas” that I have come to refer to as “carol’s” Perfect Perfectness.
    In short, she’s a simple internet Troll on this
    peak everything website, in the classic definition of such a Troll.
    She is keeping up the thread traffic for JHK, and maybe making a few of our believers in false duality think a little – but other than that “she’s” essentially useless, here.
    And as far as posting random excerpts of “her” novel here – like undercooked handfuls of spaghetti thrown against cold walls – –
    The idea that persons should not criticize those “novelettes” spaghetti strands is mainly reflecting of a simple sobriquet is developed for “her” the first week “she” posted here:
    Now, “carol” is there any chance you could attack me using facts, logic and evidence – instead of vitriolic racist name calling?
    If so, it will be the first time.

  244. progress4conserving March 26, 2013 at 9:39 pm #

    The idea that persons should not criticize those “novelette” spaghetti strands is mainly reflective of a simple sobriquet I developed for “carol” the first week “she” posted here:
    Sorry, I try to never correct my posts like this, assuming most of you have sense enough to deduce the intent on your own.
    Thought I better not make that assumption with
    The Resident Dimbulb.

  245. Julian C. Lee March 26, 2013 at 10:25 pm #

    “Just in from Rush: Chelsea is adopting an African Baby because Bill has heart problems and Hill fell down.”
    So, what is it? She wants to ensure that the Clinton spirit and blood lives on? So what does adopting a negro child have to do with that?
    Insane world. But I guess it’s fashionable to raid Africa for babies. Even that woman Sandra Bullock raided Africa. Talk about bizarre.
    The Indians of India must think Americans are completely crazy.
    “Hollywood celebs who adopted a coloured child”
    India Times
    Whites adopting black children is simply a deluded and also an ugly trend. It should be called out thusly.

  246. True Pucker March 26, 2013 at 10:57 pm #

    Read the new book entitled “The Lost Graduation” about Generation Y.
    The author is a recent US college graduate. He graduates in 2008 in the top of his class, is hard-working, clever, etc., but can’t find a job in the U.S.
    Among his friends, the only success stories are a bloke who didn’t go to college but instead became a UPS driver, and a bloke who gave up college to learn how to bake desserts and snow board who became head chef at a ski resort.
    In other words, those who do what they’re supposed to are not rewarded while those who drop out are rewarded. This is the new paradigm. The system doesn’t necessarily reward those who believe in the system. Think about it….. We’re basically living in a Dystopia.
    It’s like the movie “The Island”, in which the people who behave and conform are rewarded by the system by having the system harvest their organs, but they don’t know it.

  247. lucky 13 March 26, 2013 at 11:28 pm #

    Sarcozy would prefer they adopt the holocaust.
    the only success stories are a bloke who didn’t go to college but instead became a UPS driver, and a bloke who gave up college to learn how to bake desserts and snow board who became head chef at a ski resort…
    So there are no ‘careers’ just grunt work jobs..
    And those 2 are not ‘success stories’..just blue collar workers hanging tough.
    1 of the 2 above will go if the economy really slips [luxury items are the 1st to go].

  248. Chuck Kollars March 26, 2013 at 11:33 pm #

    Sorry, I seem to have really badly miscommunicated: In general by “point of view” I meant nothing more than “which mountain in the same range you’re standing on”, not anything like “which direction you’re looking” or “what continent you’re on”.
    > I linked that site because it has articles that
    > give an answer to many of the specific question
    > you asked, and does so in plain non-technical
    > language.
    Yes, thank you, I like it. I didn’t mean by asking if there was “a second” source too to imply I didn’t like this one. I just want to be able to read similar ideas in different words too, nothing more.
    > You could read the works of Keynes if you want
    > to know how the economy used to work.
    Do some parts of Keynes (I haven’t read him:-) support this point of view? I’ve been assuming that _all_ “academic economists” completely miss this insight and so aren’t worth my reading. Should I revise my assumption?
    > If you want a “different point of view” as in
    > the idea that “all is good” and peak oil is no > big deal…
    No, that’s not at all what I meant, I find “peak oil” to be all to real. All I meant was that the “peak oil” POV often shapes what people say so much that it can be difficult to separate out anything else. By “a different point of view”, all I meant was something like “from a corporate background” instead of “from an actuarial background”. Sorry I seemed to say I wanted different conclusions.
    > If you try to separate energy availability from
    > economy…
    No, again that’s not at all what I intended to say. In fact, it’s quite obvious to me that energy and the economy have a very close and important relationship. I just want to better understand what exactly that relationship is. And I think hearing it from more than one POV would be quite helpful to me.

    Again, thanks! (and sorry for all the miscommunication the second time around:-).

  249. lucky 13 March 26, 2013 at 11:33 pm #

    Buck is a real poster.
    Carole an im-poster.

  250. True Pucker March 27, 2013 at 12:05 am #

    I always thought that Picasso’s paintings of the twisted and contorted are interesting, paintings of the hideous…like the painting of war entitled “Guernica”, Spanish for “war”.
    Our global society has become twisted and contorted…extreme imbalance…disharmony.
    God will take His vengence…..

  251. Janos Skorenzy March 27, 2013 at 12:36 am #

    Money isn’t everything to the Elite. Starbucks tells Christian investors to take a hike if they don’t like Gay Marriage. Imagine if “Christians” had shown this kind of spirit and indiffence to money! We’d still have a viable country.

  252. Eleuthero5 March 27, 2013 at 12:41 am #

    Carol said:
    Once again, I will point out that Buck is no stud. Quite the contrary. He’s a wuss.
    You think that anyone with any CIRCUMSPECTION is a “wuss”. In other words, if people’s opinions have any nuances and aren’t table-pounding extremism, they’re “wimps”.
    It’s your stock diatribe here on CFN and not just with Buck. With anyone male who is not a mindless progressive. You’re also approaching Asoka-like overposting which means that, like him, you probably don’t have a life.

  253. Eleuthero5 March 27, 2013 at 3:10 am #

    P4C said:
    Good points, E. It was a sad slide that took political discourse in the US to it’s present nadir – where political groups are the equivalent of armed camps checking for orthodoxy at the door and refusing to talk to “enemy” camps.
    Well said, Sir. Indeed, these bellowing all-out extremists screaming at their political enemies (and recalcitrant “friends” who aren’t extreme enough for them) have destroyed reasoned discourse in this country. There’s no dialog. It’s two nine-year-old kids throwing turds at each other in a sandbox yelling “neener neener” at the top of their lungs.
    Both liberals and conservatives seem to have a series of litmus tests to see if you’re sufficiently orthodox. Neither the liberal nor the conservative sides have the market cornered on political extremism.
    I remember the old William F. Buckley vs. Gore Vidal debates which were incredibly heated yet there was still great content, nuance, and circumspection from both of these wily and skilled debaters. We will never live to see this kind of dialog in the USA because we’re getting dumber and nuance, issue-by-issue circumspection, and reflection aren’t even expected of college graduates. Indeed, any more, college graduates are just Huxleyan idiot savants with no breadth of knowledge.
    That’s why I liked Christopher Hitchens. In some ways, Hitchens was just a bitter, alcoholic old fart but the guy was a skillful wordsmith who didn’t outshout his opponents. I disagreed with him probably more than I agreed with him yet I’d take a world full of Hitchens than people allegedly “on my side” whose reasoning and locution skills are shoddy and narrow.

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  255. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 7:35 am #

    I have to laugh at E’s and Georgia Militia Man’s little faux dialogue between the same person. Martin, please stop. It’s so ridiculously obvious at this point, and yet you continue unabated. You’ve been busted, man. It’s time to go home. What you have proven in your latest exchange between two of your many sockpuppets is that Sophistry is alive and well. You believe that you, and perhaps a select few others should determine what is good debate, what is good prose, what is good anything when it comes to matters intellectual, and if you’re an academician, you charge people for your unsolicited opinion on how people should think and articulate. If that’s not Sophistry, then Sophistry doesn’t exist. It’s like I said earlier, Plato had to know that the Sophists would have the final say. I was going to say final laugh, as well, but Sophists are humourless, so that wouldn’t apply.
    I’m reading a fabulous novel right now published by Scribner that is very much in the spirit of what I’ve posted; a memoir, although mine not, but some parts will appear as though it is. The writing is similar and of equal quality, and I’m enjoying it very much. It took overwhelming encouragement from loving people for this woman to write this story; she said as much in the acknowledgements. I’m grateful she didn’t run across the likes of you cretins here in that process, otherwise I wouldn’t have had the good fortune to read such wonderful prose and such an interesting story. It never would have been written. You Sophists would have killed her creation in the womb. That’s what Sophists do; they preclude original and creative thought; they hold the thought process hostage and charge a ransom. Creativity is their foremost enemy, precisely because it’s the one thing they do not, and cannot, possess; therefore, they seek to annihilate it anywhere it manifests, especially prior to its birth.
    William F. Buckley? You have to be joking. William F. Buckley was a stodgy, prolix, verbose fraud. He was the penultimate Sophist, disguising his obvious racism in a quagmire of overweening wordsmithing. I say penultimate because you all are the ultimate Sophists considering we’re on the cusp of collapse.
    I’m ONE. I’m strong. You are many, and you are weak. Even united, you’re ineffectual. Your days are numbered. It’s the year one. We will be free of you Sophists in short order, and when we are, Humanity will achieve an enlightening renaissance of creativity. Your Phoenix will never rise again, but Humanity will soar to the pinnacle of its potential. You will not be missed; instead, your passing will be a heralded celebration that’s the cornerstone of a new society. Ding Dong, the witch is dead, the witch is dead, the witch is dead, Ding Dong, the wicked witch is dead.
    I’m working on the next section and will post it shortly for those who have been anxious. Don’t worry, it’s coming. I let myself get too sidetracked with these petty little creatures.

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  257. pedal pusher March 27, 2013 at 9:28 am #

    So true, True Pucker; I work in a field in which a degree is of little value. I learned more in my first six months of working my craft than in the four years of formal education that preceded same.
    Suppliers, customers, trade mags, the library and raw experience were my professors. In fact no one has ever seen my degree…and I’m a geezer!
    Today the convention of ‘higher education’ is even less relevant. I’m convinced that The University-Industrial Complex is a teetering, gluttonous dinosaur ready to collapse of its own weight.
    I’ve helped both of my kids start up small low-overhead enterprises – occupations that require creativity, invention and hard work. And jobs they can never be fired from!

  258. ozone March 27, 2013 at 9:41 am #

    Now you’re gettin’ it.
    The constant provocation; the repellent sanctimony; the adolescent argumentative style whose sole purpose is to lead off-topic; the criticism of anyone who would have mind enough to be pro-active or preparatory; and, lastly, the strange and careless usage, as if not really having contextual understanding of certain words. These are “qualifications” for a very specific job. Look at this interesting “view” I happened across:
    “Janos has been intelligent and mature enough to not use it as a weapon. I don’t give people credit for much, but I give him credit for that.”
    Okay then. That should about do it.
    Very familiar. If not one and the same “person”, employed in the same “job” and in naked co-operation by false “opposition” that uses up all the oxygen by inflammatory verbiage. There must be an intensive course on pushing psychological buttons for neophyte keyboard warriors. Wonder how it pays. (I still consider them treasonous bastards employing tools that will not be appreciated by anyone interested in a future beyond the next couple years.)
    …Now observe…

  259. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 9:48 am #

    I thought I would share a slice of the aforementioned novel that, had you Sophists had your way, never would have been. I chose this because it is ever so germane to the discussion and what’s going on here in the comments section.

    A few days after Mom and Dad brought me home, I cooked myself some hot dogs. I was hungry, Mom was at work on a painting, and no one else was there to fix them for me.
    “Good for you,” Mom said when she saw me cooking. “You’ve got to get right back in the saddle. You can’t live in fear of something as basic as fire.”
    I didn’t. Instead, I became fascinated with it. Dad also thought I should face down my enemy, and he showed me how to pass my finger through a candle flame. I did it over and over, slowing my finger with each pass, watching the way it seemed to cut the flame in half, testing to see how much my finger could endure without actually getting burned.I was always on the lookout for bigger fires. Whenever neighbors burned trash, I ran over and watched the blaze trying to escape the garbage can. I’d inch closer and closer, feeling the heat against my face until I got so near that it became unbearable, and then I’d back away just enough to be able to stand it.
    The neighbor lady who had driven me to the hospital was surprised that I didn’t run in the opposite direction from any fire I saw. “Why the hell would she?” Dad bellowed with a proud grin. “She already fought the fire once and won.”

    In and of itself, the above passage could provide countless pathways for hours of intellectual discussion for those with creative imaginations, but what makes it even more noteworthy, and yet isn’t mentioned in that passage, is it’s a three-year-old girl.
    The parts in bold made it past the copy-editors at Scribner. How could that be, all you grammar and prose pedants?
    You all are the Sophist fire. I’ll continue to play with you until I’m so skilled, you could never possibly burn me.

  260. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 9:57 am #

    Martin, you’re starting to mix up your characters; you’re confusing sockpuppets. This is not characteristic of the sockpuppet ozone. Where’s all the funky wording? It’s too lucid, too grandiose and unfettered with ozone’s typical word play. You’re off your game, man. You’re on the ropes. The heel of the boot is on your neck and you’re squirming like a toad.

  261. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject March 27, 2013 at 10:02 am #

    Interesting theory, Zone!
    Startin’ to see the similarities to which you point. I don’t know whether to think an undertaking such as that requires immense talent or sheer psychopathy or both at once. A waste of energy either way. A waste to engage as if it were anything resembling useful debate as well. Hard to resist though.
    just got some cucumber and squash trellises built and a new strawberry patch tilled. Dang cats jump the fence at night and bury turds in the soft, fresh dirt. Tempted to start snipin’ ’em with a low powered BB pistol, but the little poop bandits know to slip in under cover of darkness. Gonna have to build a chicken wire cage for sure. But do you know of any other natural cat deterrence methods?
    Later, man.

  262. ozone March 27, 2013 at 10:10 am #

    Nice metaphor, Zed.
    When one bill is passed, another should be struck from the books. That might make the process a bit more careful and thoughtful and less prone to greedy “fiddling”. (The devil, after all, is in the details — which is where we find a lot of lawyers practicing their newspeak.)

  263. Janos Skorenzy March 27, 2013 at 10:15 am #

    Oh really? Kdog also slandered me but never proved a thing – and he would have if he could. That’s typical of you folks: high IQ’s and the complete unwillingness to use them appropriately or fairly. Instead, your intellects are in service to your pet loves and hatreds. You’re Commissars, not intellectuals; ideologues not philsophers.
    Like Asoka before “her”, the great taboos are the same: endless energy, endless immigration, and endless hatred for the White Race. I’m against all three points – or haven’t you noticed? You folks have alot of trouble with opposing the endless immigration – and are completely in favor of the destruction of the White Race. So, who is the Sock Puppet here, you or me?
    Again, why is Bill Ayers out and about and doing fucking great? I mean if you all are so oppressed and shit? Bet you’re a big Free Pussy Riot person, right? Despicable.

  264. ozone March 27, 2013 at 10:32 am #

    Here’s a site with a massive amount of divergent opinions of “what’s what” in nearly any category of interest you might have! (Talk about your information overload; yow.)
    There are a lot of business types promoting their own brands of reality, but you’ll be aware of that.
    Just type in “economics” in the search at the top and away you go! (I was interested in “marijuana economics”, but they want you to pay for that lecture… must be money in it. lol)

  265. Janos Skorenzy March 27, 2013 at 10:32 am #

    I used to read Asoka much of the time, despite the bullshit. Your character is so repellant that I’ve lost all interest. Everything exists in balance in order to be relevant or even real. The Carol character does not and is neither. Remember, the Greeks said that Creation was not only order but limit – the two being inseparable. Chaos is infinite and you approach it.

  266. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 10:49 am #

    Shut up you liar. If you didn’t read me, I wouldn’t be responding to this post because there would be no post. You read me, and you know it. I know it. As for the rest of your post, pure Sophistry. I couldn’t care less what the Greeks said several thousand years prior. That was then, this is now. I’ll do my own thinking, and you should do yours. It’s a lazy man who has to rely on others to do his thinking for him.
    But whether you read me or not, is irrelevant to the point I made. The point is you didn’t go for THAT low blow. There’s still time. Maybe you’ll prove me wrong. Nothing would please me more.

  267. ozone March 27, 2013 at 10:54 am #

    I suppose it’s a job that has attractions to some.
    (Probably not the sort you’d want to try and get something built with. These are followers, not doers. ;o)
    Dunno about the furry nugget-leavers. Know a few folks with dogs, or have a couple yourself? Brush ’em down. Liberal applications of dog-hair (scattered on the ground and tucked in the foliage) do wonders for keeping the deer well away; but with cats, they may see it as a territorial dispute and redouble their “efforts”!
    The cabbage fam’bly seeds are sprouting nicely here, but we still have about 6 inches of snow left to melt off before we begin to scrabble in the dirt. Got the glass panes, so am designing a capacious cold-frame for hardening off seedlings. We’ll just have to go along with whatever laws the climate decides to dictate. Stranger and more unpredictable with each passing year.

  268. ozone March 27, 2013 at 11:02 am #

    I don’t think any more need be said in that regard, do you?

  269. ozone March 27, 2013 at 11:13 am #

    US DoD Network??
    Are you fucking kidding me?!?
    Ever hear of encryption?
    Don’t you think it might be a little problematic to just tear aside the curtain like you’re doing? Man, the hubris is becoming palpable.
    (BTW, get a job that actually adds some value to human existence. I haven’t seen any of you “defending” anything but the overlords for a long, long time; so DoD is quite the misnomer when it comes to the general populace.)

  270. progress4conserving March 27, 2013 at 11:27 am #

    “..the great taboos are the same: endless energy, endless immigration, and endless hatred for the White Race….” -js, concerning “carol” et al-
    Yeah, anyone can go on any lightly moderated website and get a lot of attention and stir up a lot of dust by posting counter to the “single? or essential?” themes of the website.
    So it was with the Soaker Hose. He (asokadequatio) would attempt to derail any talk of genuine preparation for collapse or potential outcomes of collapse – with supercilious statements that:
    1. oil would never end
    2. oil would never end for 47 years
    3. the third world is better than the 1st
    4. immigrants cause prosperity
    5. only a racist would disagree
    6. blah blah blah, blah, blah
    Trolling the CFN, pure and simple.
    It’s interesting that those who seemed to admire Soaker the most are those who most WANT to believe in an ecotechnic future (bill, buck)
    Those who admired Soaker the most (ozone, P4C) are those most interested in various sorts of preparation.
    Let’s also notice that “carol,” is a simplistic derivative, if you will, of Soaker. “She” dispenses with any use of logic or evidence. In other words, “she” doesn’t bother with Soaker’s attempts at steps 1,2,3,or 4 above.
    “she” cuts right into a repetitive Screaming Meemie of #5, and #6.
    Weird, when you think about it – how “she” appeared the week Soaker renamed himself, and perhaps the week the DoD audited their computer network use in Arlington, or something.
    I’m not saying she’s DoD, too. Weird, though.
    w. e. i. r. d.

  271. ozone March 27, 2013 at 12:08 pm #

    Now, back to the topic at hand.
    As Zed (I think) had intimated above, the Russian big-bucks-boyz may be using the delivery entrance of closed-for-business establishments to load out their “goods”.
    There’s an article on infoclearinghouse about the Cypriot banking kerfuffle that does not mention [or even guess at] word one of this eminently interesting development.

  272. lucky 13 March 27, 2013 at 12:26 pm #

    The media is having a field day with ‘Gay Marriage’.
    The ol Bread n Circuses routine.

  273. progress4conserving March 27, 2013 at 12:29 pm #

    Yeah, O3, not terribly surprising that the “men with soft hands” extracted their money from Cypriot banks – leaving smaller depositors holding the bag.
    I think it’s part and parcel of the idea that TPTB will do ANYTHING to avoid conflict, as long as they can do it by giving away other peoples money.
    And let me correct something, since I’ve got a channel open:
    “Those who admired Soaker the most (ozone, P4C) are those most interested in various sorts of preparation.” -p4c, creeping himself out-
    Obviously should have been:
    “Those who admired Soaker the LEAST (ozone, P4C) are those most interested in various sorts of preparation.” -p4c, edited for sanity-
    We need humor! Damn it, humor!

  274. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject March 27, 2013 at 12:32 pm #

    Came across various reports of the silent exit myself awhile back. Seems like a showdown with the Russkies was averted on that front. Still very interesting to see what the general pop will do with regard to keepin’ their money in the bank as the process continues.
    The hyper reactionaries on the web all seem to be predictin’ falling domino bank runs regardless. Think it’ll happen? I’m not so sure.

  275. Buck's A Stud March 27, 2013 at 12:37 pm #

    I don’t think “Carol” is Vlad; however, I do think Carol has studied Vlad’s posts in order to read a bit more esoteric and erudite. But for all of her talk about creativity, her attempts to absorb Vlad’s style are nothing more than a tracing of the outer contour. As a result her prose feels more plagiaristic than authentic,IMO.
    And now Carol is on yet another finger pointing crusade regarding Sophistry. She invokes Plato but if she had read Plato with any real understanding, she would realize the Line Divide simile is not some four-step ladder to the realm of Noetic wisdom forever attained; on the contrary it’s all about NIOANIA stepping back down into lower realm of EUKASIA and PISTIS in order to filter and refine prior observations via the empirical dynamism of DIONIA. In short, it’s a spiral that is constantly moving, up, down, and all around in order to apprehend vantage points missed on prior journeys of observation.
    But Carol thinks she stands above the cave and not only that, she condemns all those down below with her vitriolic ‘corporate whore’, ‘Sophist’, etc, denunciations’. In short, the Sun of Carol’s world is a beam in the eye and not the illumination of objects that beckon sympathetic observation.
    And so she stands on the top surface, satisfied and smug, but unable to ‘turn a corner’ down into the depths of those she abhors. Of course, her prose stays close next to her on the superficial top and those down below of whom she never tires of insulting and judging dare not criticize her “Holy Prose” lest they be deemed unethical, philistine brutes.
    Carol the novelist? Color me skeptical.

  276. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 1:04 pm #

    Buck’s got his face deep down in the musky loofah.
    To anyone who’s interested, here’s a link to an excellent lobbyist organization concerned with immigration. They will send faxes on your behalf to Congress. Sign up today. I’m actually surprised no one here has mentioned this fine outfit before. What’s up wit dat? I highly endorse it. See you at the next meeting. It’ll be a blast. I’ll be sure to bring my loofah.

  277. Janos Skorenzy March 27, 2013 at 1:08 pm #

    Yes, I think she does copy me, but seriously, how does she know about things that we said here years ago? Do you think “Carol” is capable of lurking quietly? That’s why I think It is Asoka.
    Plato was mostly about getting into the Light, but I like your take on it. The Spiral is my favorite image as it contains all dimensions: the Circular nature of Life is expressed but also seeing the same territory from a higher level as well. And the Philosopher King has to be able to go down as well, to see things as other do – or even back into the darkness to illumine that. And how many dwellers in darkness flee, hating the Light with all their creepy crawler carol hearts.

  278. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 1:13 pm #

    That’s why I liked Christopher Hitchens. In some ways, Hitchens was just a bitter, alcoholic old fart but the guy was a skillful wordsmith who didn’t outshout his opponents. I disagreed with him probably more than I agreed with him yet I’d take a world full of Hitchens than people allegedly “on my side” whose reasoning and locution skills are shoddy and narrow.

  279. Janos Skorenzy March 27, 2013 at 1:13 pm #

    Anybody think this creature is a Woman? The Ancient World was full of Female Monsters that the Solar Heroes slew. This one got away somehow.

  280. San Jose Mom 51 March 27, 2013 at 1:14 pm #

    Today’s “Wall Street Journal” features a page 1 story “America’s New Railroad Age.” JHK predicted that railroads would do well in the “Long Emergency.”

  281. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 1:22 pm #

    What a pussy riot you are, you ancient, oleaginous ogre. I bet you don’t even use wipes. It would explain your nasty disposition. I’d feel the same way with an ass loaded up with dingleberries. Get some relief. Go buy a container full and start using them. If you don’t have the money, we can pass the hat around and everyone can chip in so you can get some wipes. We need to bring you up to speed.

  282. progress4conserving March 27, 2013 at 1:48 pm #

    “To anyone who’s interested, here’s a link to an excellent lobbyist organization concerned with immigration. They will send faxes on your behalf to Congress.” -“carol,” straying from “her” prison-
    Wow, I’m impressed!
    Could that sound be the ice cracking in Hades?

  283. Mrs. Soake March 27, 2013 at 2:12 pm #

    Ditto. Carol is my ex-husband asoka.

  284. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject March 27, 2013 at 2:23 pm #

    I think this one was for someone else, Carol. No? I did the same thing to you Monday by mistake. My apologies.
    I use to love watching old clips of Hitchens destroy people with clever speech craft, but as I got older and became slightly more mature ;>) I realized he was destroying himself with that unwieldy intellect. He never solved any problems big or small. He never discovered any new ideas. He was only exceptional to his closest friends and the common acolyte. He was only ever a glorious shit talker. But he died hard, which I admittedly used to find admirable. People like that are a dime a dozen these days, even if few of them can match his verve with words.
    You, however, seem to be able to argue both sides of a belief system using the same level of cherry-picked literary logic that any of your adversaries here throw at you. You are disaffected, at least superficially. I mean to say that your good at mimicry, and if the ones who react to you the most could let go of the ego long enough… well, never mind the impossible. You do seem to paint yourself into a corner now and again, though, as does everyone else with whom you lock horns, but in your case it begs the question: does it do your own mind any good to persist? If you’re gettin’ paid, then by all means keep burstin’ bubbles. We’re all whores to the system to some degree.

  285. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject March 27, 2013 at 2:36 pm #

    *you’re good at mimicry

  286. Janos Skorenzy March 27, 2013 at 2:44 pm #

    Thank you. The greatest thing a woman can do for a man is believe him, validate him. Perhaps we have a future together – with our common knowledge of Asoka as the starting point. Some good should come from all this evil. If it works out, we can go to Arlington, Virginia and let him marry us.

  287. Janos Skorenzy March 27, 2013 at 2:46 pm #

    Oh so you don’t really believe I work for the DoD? You were just saying that? You do that alot: make up “truths” to slander people with. Maybe you should apply for a job at the ADL or SPLC.

  288. Rhino March 27, 2013 at 2:58 pm #

    Anyone notice that Berezovsky was found dead in the UK? So another Russian expat that crossed Putin bites the dust.
    “Suicide” the British police say. I’ll bet it is. An example of Putin’s long reach? Any wonder that Russian loot was allowed to exit those Cypriot banks? Maybe the Eurocrats in charge of various financial regulatory bodies thought that messing with Putin and his friends was above their paygrade. Not worth a nasty end. All speculation on my part of course.
    BTW the Cypriot govt is preparing what they call “capital controls” to prevent bank runs. Now, I presume that all that Russian dough that allegedly buzzed off via UK branches of Cypriot banks is just water under the bridge. No use crying over spilt milk. I wonder if any Russian money is still in those banks. I wonder if those “capital controls” apply to Russian deposits. Any lowly bank employee would need balls like church-bells to raise the alarm (see Berezovsky, Patarkatsishvili, Perepilichnyy, Litvinenko and others). Especially given that the financial Euro masters already supposedly allowed a mass exit.
    Another thing: the name of governor of the Cypriot central bank is “Panicos”. No, I’m not kidding. Panicos Demetriades.

  289. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject March 27, 2013 at 3:06 pm #

    All questions I’ve been toiling over for a week. I’m waiting for dignitaries to start turning up dead. When members of the Elite start piling up, then there’s something big about to happen. Until then all of this seems like more of the same.
    You’ve been one of the few people who bring up new points to consider regarding the Cypriot crisis. I’m sure JHK is watching and absorbing, too. Appreciate the input!

  290. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 3:25 pm #

    does it do your own mind any good to persist?
    Of course it does. It beats the hell out of Sudoku.
    No corners, though. If you perceive a corner with “carol” in it, the perception was intended. The goal is to keep it round at all times with only the appearance of corners.
    I agree about Hitchens. Thank you for providing a fabulous riposte to E. I can’t speak to how tough he fought in his latter days, but he was an out and out pussy when it came to water-boarding. I’ve seen guys last much longer than this, and have it done to them multiple times, and here this wanker gives up almost before it started. It’s like rape; you just have to relax and enjoy it. It’s all about psychology.

  291. mika. March 27, 2013 at 3:27 pm #

    Shalom, Bill. Like you, I’ve been traveling. Everywhere it’s the same thieving fascist nazi Vatican mafia that dominates. And it’s getting worse and worse. If there’s some reason to be hopeful, I don’t see it. Perhaps JHK will be proven correct and this whole shit-full toilet-paper of a world will be flushed down the toilet. We’ll see.

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    I agree. All this fuss about Russia and Putin is just a smokescreen campaign by an owned press that’s not much more collectively, than a glorified stenographer. Putin is in bed with the Global Plutocracy. There was never any dispute with Merkel. It was all for show. They had this arranged early on via the Cypriot owned bank in Russia. The Oligarchs money was never in any danger. No need to worry. The corporate whore Little Eichmans will keep their mouths shut and do as they’re told; out of “necessity” of course. Everything and anything can, and is, rationalized as “out of necessity.” So it goes.

  294. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject March 27, 2013 at 3:54 pm #

    Saw this clip once before, too. Yeah, it took longer for them to set up the scenario than for him to quit, but his mindset afterwards wasn’t weak or “pussy” as I see it. Hitchens was at his very best whenever he was feeling introspective. His final interviews with Rose (I know, flippin’ Rose again) cemented a particular affinity in my mind for his brand of genius. He was, nevertheless, an entertaining mess whenever he was defining outward phenomena and facing an adversary, even if right much of the time. And The last word anyone who actually knew or observed Hitchens in this mode of attack would use to describe his manner of debate is circumspect. He was no careful “pussy.”

  295. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 4:34 pm #

    I will give him credit that he came clean on water-boarding and admitted he was wrong; that’s something most, if not all, of his adversaries could not, and never would, do. I understand why Hitchens flipped. The Liberal intellectual crowd are obnoxious and odious Patricians. He dared to defy them, and they ostracized him and excoriated him mercilessly in perpetuity. He set himself up as a permanent foil for both their vilification of the “right” and the “right’s” vilification of the left. It worked. He made a name and a career for himself, and drank himself to death. That esophageal erosion that led to his cancer was the result of years of alcohol abuse. He knew the risks, and now he’s gone much too soon, or some would say not soon enough. Who cares, anyway? Not me. Not anymore.

  296. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject March 27, 2013 at 4:35 pm #

    Here it goes…
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  297. Kyooshtik March 27, 2013 at 4:59 pm #

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    So it will be, in my humble opinion, with The Entity of Indeterminate Gender and Its unjustified self confidence and unrealistic ambitions. Nay, there is more to talent than access to an electronic Thesaurus.
    For an inkling of what is involved in getting published I recommend D.T. Max’s biography of David Foster Wallace. If a literary genius had difficulties imagine The Entity. There’s a hilarious bit about DFW sending off his manuscripts with cover letters welcoming rejection because it would give him the pleasure of continuing the whole process…the copying, the preparation of the pleasingly plump package, the inclusion of the SASE, etc.
    Imagine It with Its repellent personality doing readings on a book tour circuit. One cringes.
    No, if ever the cliche “Don’t quit (or get fired again from) your day job” were apt, this is it.

  298. Kyooshtik March 27, 2013 at 5:20 pm #

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  299. Janos Skorenzy March 27, 2013 at 5:25 pm #

    Glad you found a girlfriend you can dish with.

  300. Kyooshtik March 27, 2013 at 5:48 pm #

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    Artie sighed, rolled his eyes and reluctantly agreed to accept the dollar as down payment for the dirty deed.
    A few days later, Artie followed the man’s wife to the local Costco Warehouse. There, he surprised her in the produce department and proceeded to strangle her with his gloved hands. As the poor unsuspecting woman drew her last breath and slumped to the floor, the manager of the produce department stumbled unexpectedly onto the murder scene. Unwilling to leave any living witnesses behind, ol’ Artie had no choice but to strangle the produce manager as well.
    However, unknown to Artie, the entire proceedings were captured by the hidden security cameras and observed by the shop’s security guard, who immediately called the police. Artie was caught and arrested before he could even leave the premises.
    Under intense questioning at the police station, Artie revealed the whole sordid plan, including his unusual financial arrangements with the hapless husband who was also quickly arrested.
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  301. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 6:01 pm #

    It remains to be seen, Q-Schmuck, it remains to be seen. A narrow-minded person would believe your example is how it all works. It’s much more complex than that, Q-Schmuck, much more complex. Also, don’t project your failures on to others. No wonder your children haven’t succeeded, and they haven’t, with a father like you. You never gave them a chance. Their entire life the message they got from you was to serve the corporate master, and not forge their own unique path. You’re exemplary of suburban sociology. Mediocrity at its best. Stunting potential and creativity at every turn out of vindictive spite. You’ve made the Ope very happy. You are the genius of the crowd.

  302. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 6:42 pm #

    Did you copy that from Reader’s Digest? Your generation can’t kick off soon enough. What a fascist publication that is. It’s been turning minds to fudge since 1922.

  303. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 7:13 pm #

    Thought-provoking quote from Q-Schmuck’s link:

    The most telling interview was with a very elderly gentleman who had lived in the same home for many years. He told the interviewer he felt comfortable where he lives, but pointed out that in the 1950s the blacks knew their place, but now it is the whites who know theirs.

    That is priceless. Obviously, this elderly gentleman hasn’t met the “whites” at CFN.

  304. Kyooshtik March 27, 2013 at 7:15 pm #

    It remains to be seen, Q-Schmuck, it remains to be seen. A narrow-minded person would believe your example is how it all works. It’s much more complex than that, Q-Schmuck, much more complex.
    You can say that again, Entity, you can say that again.

  305. xport March 27, 2013 at 7:21 pm #

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  306. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 7:28 pm #

    How sweet of you to go to the trouble of bolding all that for me, Q-Schmuck. You really are a caring person. Are the sugar cookies ready yet?
    Answer me as to how what I bolded up thread made it past the copy-editors. Answer it now, asshole. Put the hell up, or shut the hell up. Major publishing houses don’t nitpick like this, so why do you, puss? I’ll tell you why. You’re an insecure, petty little pedant, and you’re proud of that.
    I lost all respect for you when I heard you wanted to shit on your boss’s desk. That’s nasty, but that’s you. You wouldn’t belt him, no. But you would anonymously shit on his desk like the passive-aggressive weasel you are. You’re a small man. Thankfully, you won’t be with us much longer.

  307. Janos Skorenzy March 27, 2013 at 7:30 pm #

    I might disagree there. I think Carol has a number of lucrative opportunities. She could write the screen play for a horror movie entitled “The Loofah”. She could also star in it.
    Beyond that, Gay Organizations might want to hire her as a speaker in their new “Scared Gay” initiative.

  308. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 7:31 pm #

    Both, and more.

  309. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 7:40 pm #

    You, disagree? Who would have thunk?
    I can spot a faggot a mile away. You’re closer than a mile, and I’ve spotted you. Your blip is so strong on the radar, it takes up the entire screen.
    That’s alright, though, there’s nothing wrong with it, and there’s never been a better time for you and Q-Schmuck to come out and consummate your soon-to-be-legal marriage. Hopefully, you make a mean sugar cookie.

  310. Janos Skorenzy March 27, 2013 at 7:51 pm #

    Don’t be offended. I bet your horror movie will be very, very scary. To be able to make an innocuous object like a Loofah into an object of horror shows immense talent. I’ve read Lovecraft’s essay on horror literature so I know. And you could even start out with it as a short story or novella and then work it into a screen play.

  311. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 7:58 pm #

    Why not just go straight for the screen play? This has Blockbuster written all over it. I’d like to mix genres like Tarantino does, so it can be a little bit of everything, horror included, plus some black comedy. The final scene can be the genocide of all the remaining whites on the planet, ending with a scene of coloreds, after much cajoling from weak weasels, shoveling freshly gassed white cadavers into ovens. Move over Schindler’s List, here I come. Never again, again will be the message. Of course, for you it will be too late, but your sacrifice will have served a noble cause.

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    Answer me as to how what I bolded up thread made it past the copy-editors. Answer it now, asshole. Put the hell up, or shut the hell up.
    The words Mom and Dad are NOT bolded in the on-line preview copy of The Glass Castle by Jeannette Walls. However, the first 4 words of that sentence are all in caps and the first word “A” is in a font size about double the font size of the caps. This non-traditional presentation occurs frequently throughout the book. Since not all pages appear in the preview version I can only guess that the use of caps as described above is done, perhaps, at the beginning of chapters. Whatever the case, it is obviously a conscious choice of the publisher and NOT a copy-editor fuck-up.
    Try to get your facts straight when you attempt to challenge me, repellent one.

  315. Janos Skorenzy March 27, 2013 at 8:38 pm #

    I want royalties (if that’s the right word) as the consulting editor in addition to my fee. And you can mix and match a bit a la Tarentino, but no White Holocaust. Whites are getting sick of this kind of thing and they will boycott. And beyond that, I wont allow it – it’s against my Principles as a White Man. Working with you will be a trial since you are a horror. Let’s hire a Girl Friday as a go between so as to keep our contact to an absolute minimum.

  316. Kyooshtik March 27, 2013 at 9:10 pm #

    Never again, again will be the message.
    Poorly done, repellent one. You have a tin ear. Don’t send shit like ^this^ to publishers unless you want to lose all credibility. The sentence would read better as:
    “Never again,” again, will be the message.

  317. Jam47 March 27, 2013 at 9:33 pm #

    Stop thinking about copy editors and start thinking about manuscript readers. Copy editors and line editors occupy book publishing’s inner sanctum. Before a novel manuscript arrives on the desk of either, it has to get past the manuscript reader. The manuscript reader acts as a filter. She (most are women) separates the unpublishable manuscript from the publishable and sends the publishable up the line.
    When your novel is slung back at you (or your agent) it won’t be a copy or line editor doing the slinging. It will be a manuscript reader, who will hate you for not giving her a masterpiece she can take upstairs.

  318. Janos Skorenzy March 27, 2013 at 9:54 pm #

    Liberal Art Fags in a tizzy when one of their own turns “Nazi’. What to do with the pieces of Art they own? Smash them? But who will repay them? Liberals have never met a free thinker before, evidently. Go Kraft!

  319. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 10:02 pm #

    Your explanation makes no sense whatsoever. She capitalized Mom and Dad. I did in several sections I posted here and Jam47 criticized it, implying it would be thrown back at me. Wrong.
    The “that” she used in that passage that I bolded was superfluous according to you and Jam47, yet it was published.
    You two are petty frauds. You have no ground on which to stand. You’ve been proven wrong once again. I’m laughing so hard right now, there are tears running down my face. Thanks for making my day.

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  321. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 10:05 pm #

    The up arrows are superfluous. It’s obvious you’re referring to the part you italicized.

  322. lucky 13 March 27, 2013 at 10:05 pm #

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  323. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 10:12 pm #

    He’s been studying my patterns and this is his first attempt at one of them. Nice try, Roman, but you have a long way to go.

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  325. Carol Newquist March 27, 2013 at 10:16 pm #

    I’m getting sick and tired of your chest-pounding displays of jealousy. If you don’t want other men to talk with me, then put a ring on my finger, otherwise I’m free to roam.

  326. Buck's A Stud March 28, 2013 at 12:12 am #

    We should all consider ourselves very lucky that Deep Dostoyevsky Newquist is putting her novel on hold in order to immediately respond to a large number of CFN posts in the last month or so. Imagine all of the real work she could have accomplished and yet she chooses to stick around and insult nearly every inch of text her eyes come across.
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  328. Janos Skorenzy March 28, 2013 at 12:37 am #

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  329. Kyooshtik March 28, 2013 at 12:54 am #

    How sweet of you to go to the trouble of bolding all that for me, Q-Schmuck. You really are a caring person.
    Another valid criticism flies over the head of the insufferable and repellent Entity.
    People sure of the accuracy of what they are saying have no need to repeat it while the unsure tend to repeat. Psychologists have a label for this phenomenon. Confirmation something-or-other, perhaps? I forget.
    Early to bed and early to rise, Entity. You need to hit the bricks and find gainful employment since your scribbles won’t be earning enough to feed a parakeet.

  330. Julian C. Lee March 28, 2013 at 1:00 am #

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    That’s pretty gay, Carolonius.
    By the way your writing sucks. Go junk up some other blog.
    Very educational new article by K. MacDonald, “Psychological Mechanisms of White Dispossession”

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  333. Eleuthero5 March 28, 2013 at 1:22 am #

    Carol said:
    I agree about Hitchens.
    If you were only one-thousandth as interesting, complex, and nuanced as Hitchens. The man never tried to hide his flaws or aggrandize his resume.
    You, Carol, have no resume and you’re not really even the big fish in the tiny, tiny little pond. I’ve never tried to be because my posting volume doesn’t outshout others enough.

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    While listening I thought of you since I know you are very much into architecture and sculpture. Early in the recording there is lengthy description of the architecture of the cathedral which evolved over hundreds of years and of all that surrounds it in Paris.

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  341. Eleuthero5 March 28, 2013 at 7:09 am #

    Carol said:
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    Are you serious? Do you know ANYTHING about the inner workings of Russia in 2013? Putin wants to KILL the Russian Mafia which are mostly Jews like Berezovsky who had the decency to kill himself in exile in Cyprus. Berezovsky pulled an interesting trick by “converting” to Christianity so that Russians would buy his act more.
    Two Russian Mafia oligarchs down, eleven to go. Putin is just one man and each Jewish Mafia oligarch in Russia has a virtually army of their own. If you think Vladimir Putin is IN BED with these people then you don’t understand anything about Russian politics or the relationship between Putin, the Kremlin, and these oligarchs. They kiss their ass ’til they get a chance to kill them. They are NOT “friends”.
    Russia is a much more nationalistic place than it was in the Soviet era and both the government and the citizens detest the Russian Mafia but they have too much entrenched economic power to just wipe them out. It’s a long term project.

  342. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 7:16 am #

    It’s amazing the attention someone as unremarkable as myself receives here. What an odd contradiction. If something is dull or otherwise unmoving, people are indifferent or apathetic to it, yet the weight of your concern is backbreaking; for someone with a weaker back than mine. I’ve been standing up to the gang rape that’s been perpetrated upon me for the past month or two. So many have joined in. I have accomplished what I set out to do; and that was to prove that white men hail from a culture of rape, and when they congregate, they exhibit an onerous and sadistic dose of that rape culture. So here I stand, and will continue to stand, one woman against twelve or more angry rapists as they continue to maliciously violate a fabricated image of what they believe me to be. The lesson I want anyone who’s been observing this for the past two months to take from this is this should not be saved. This has to go. This is what has held humanity back. Don’t trust these white devils ever. Don’t stop until every last one is wiped clean from the face of the earth. Treat them as alien predators because that is what they quite literally are. They have raped this entire planet from the first day they set foot on it.
    The Twenty-third Scroll, Ninth Verse says it well:

    Beware the white man, for he is the devil’s pawn. Alone among God’s primates, he kills for sport, or lust or greed. Yes, he will murder his brother to possess his brother’s land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him. Drive him back into his jungle lair: For he is the harbinger of death.

    I think the accuracy of that Verse is quite clear when you reflect upon the behavior that has been exhibited by these white devils in this comments section. It’s clear what needs to be done. Now get busy, there is much work ahead. We will be victorious, and once we are, we will be free at last; thank Allah Almighty, we’ll be free at last.

  343. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 7:29 am #

    You are an example of why mathematicians shouldn’t analyze politics. It can’t be reduced to a formula. You can’t devise an absurd model to capture it, replicate it, and predict it. It’s beyond the crude clutches of inadequate mathematics. Your attempts to do so reveal a naive and unwarranted hubris; you’re feeling around in a dark cave with thick gloves on; a humorous spectacle of futility.
    Allies are not necessarily friends. You can be in bed with an ally, and have one foot out of the covers touching the floor for quick exit if need be, and in one hand hidden beneath the pillow, a dagger ready to plunge at a moment’s notice. There are no friends in the sphere of politics; only alliances and allies, and they should never be mistaken for friends.

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    Hey P2C check out Michelle Malkin’s column today about the immigration laws in Mexico. Let us just say, don’t try to sneak into Mexico. And if you do get in don’t try to work or meddle in political affairs. The consequences are dire.

  346. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 9:04 am #

    Fred the Fuck seems to be doing just fine. I’ll judge it by that. Until he lays decapitated in a gutter in some back alley, Mexico’s a great place to hang out and pen racist rants. It’s an open door policy and a hospitable locale until Fred’s fate proves otherwise.

  347. progress4conserving March 28, 2013 at 9:05 am #

    “don’t try to work or meddle in political affairs. The consequences are dire.” -cd-
    As they should be, CD.
    If you send money to Fred Reed in Mexico, you HAVE to send it to his wife’s account – as she’s a Mexican citizen. I’ll guarantee you that Fred is 100% LEGAL, though. He’d be a fool to be there otherwise.
    Meanwhile, in the US –
    I’ve been carrying state-issued ID since 15.
    And I can’t imagine traveling in any foreign country without a passport, perfect papers, and abundant caution. That’s the total opposite attitude of illegal migrants in the US.
    The rule of law is dead in the United States.
    Except, of course, for us peons.
    Excuse me – Gotta’ go slave over my tax returns.

  348. progress4conserving March 28, 2013 at 9:15 am #

    “I’ve been standing up to the gang rape that’s been perpetrated upon me for the past month or two.”
    -“carol,” visitor to other websites??-
    I’ve read most of your posts AND all of those directed toward you – and I have not seen ANYTHING remotely like what you are describing.
    You been cheatin’ on us at one of those Violent Porno Websites, “carol?”
    There is a line between “kinky” and perverted.
    You are on the wrong side of that line.
    Seek help.

  349. GAZ March 28, 2013 at 9:31 am #

    Hey SpewMist…about your “rape” comment.
    ”I think that if rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it.”
    Bob Knight

  350. lucky 13 March 28, 2013 at 12:01 pm #

    K-Dog [and others] where do Carole and Adejojo
    post from? Or are they proxied out?

  351. lucky 13 March 28, 2013 at 12:03 pm #

    You might enjoy Jim Rogers 2 book about his travel thru Russia.

  352. lucky 13 March 28, 2013 at 12:10 pm #

    Some sports are money makers, so that might be a good deal for them.
    Keep reporting on outrageous gubment spending.

  353. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 12:18 pm #

    You been cheatin’ on us at one of those Violent Porno Websites, “carol?”
    Quite honestly, I didn’t know such things existed, but it doesn’t surprise me. It emanates from a culture of hate and rape, afterall. Yet another example, like this domineering and sadistic anger from you and yours in this comments section. By the way, how would you know such websites existed if you hadn’t been frequenting them? Hmmmmmmm…
    I bet there are no websites like the ones you mentioned in Iran. But then, theirs is not a culture of rape.

  354. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 12:25 pm #

    Are you capable of more than an incoherent sentence or two? Are you Terry Nichols? You remind me of him. I bet you sleep with a gun under your pillow, and another one up your ass for good measure. That’s what being prepared is all about.

  355. Buck's A Stud March 28, 2013 at 12:26 pm #

    Thanks Q,I’ll have a listen !

  356. Buck's A Stud March 28, 2013 at 12:30 pm #

    Wow Vlad,Deep Dostoyevsky Newquist that’s quite a post; beautifully written and expressed!(And don’t be surprised if “Deep Dostoyevsky Newquist” extracts the spine of it.)

  357. Buck's A Stud March 28, 2013 at 12:32 pm #

    should have been…Wow that’s quite a post; beautifully written and expressed!(And don’t be surprised if “Deep Dostoyevsky Newquist” extracts the spine of it.)

  358. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 12:35 pm #

    People sure of the accuracy of what they are saying have no need to repeat it while the unsure tend to repeat. Psychologists have a label for this phenomenon. Confirmation something-or-other, perhaps? I forget.
    Exactly! By gawd, I believe you have it, Watson. Now the next step in the process; quit repeating yourself as it concerns me, unless you want me to believe you’re unsure and engaging in confirmation bias. Thanks for sleuthing that out. I knew there was something wrong with the repetitious bleating of the mad crowd here. You all are unsure, and you think if you repeat it enough times, it will magically be true. You’re a just man, Q-Schmuck, a just man indeed.

  359. Doc Holliday March 28, 2013 at 12:38 pm #

    Hope you are recovering James. Best of Luck.
    Ok folks. I have a plan. Hock everything and put it into gold and silver and sit back until the Banksters crash the price and steal even more from us.
    Or play it safe and only put 1/4 of our assets into metal. This way we will lose only 3/4 of our assets plus whatever we lose on gold and silver.
    Maybe a good investment would be to open opium dens for people to forget their troubles after the crash and opium suppresses the appetite.

  360. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 12:46 pm #

    Get it right the first time, you sycophantic moron. There are no mulligans in this match.
    You remind me of that character Otto in A Fish Called Wanda. Throughout the film, Otto was persistently reading and reciting philosophy, yet he had no idea what any of it meant. He was the consummate imbecile and his painful-to-watch excursion into higher reasoning was likened to a chimp with a Rubik’s Cube. That is you. It’s difficult to witness. I feel sorry for you, it’s that pitiful.

  361. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 12:52 pm #

    but for one who eyes to see
    Sorry, the forgotten “has” ruined it for me. It seemed as though you had something interesting to say, but then it crashed upon a forgotten word. You must be more careful when paraphrasing from a site found via google search.
    Try better next time, you cute little homo.

  362. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 1:06 pm #

    Early to bed and early to rise, Entity. You need to hit the bricks and find gainful employment since your scribbles won’t be earning enough to feed a parakeet.
    Writing’s a hobby, not a career. What’s wrong with you? I’m a Mandarin, remember? I set out long ago to destroy this system and you and yours. For many years I worked diligently at legally bilking middle class Little Eichmans out of their life savings and giving it to the poor. I have done, and continue to do, what the Government’s supposed to do, but doesn’t. I’ve been training others how to do the same and I now have a small cadre of recruits who are poised to level the playing field. In my spare time, I read and post here, and write novels as a hobby.
    Oh, no birds cages. That is the height of cruelty. Birds are meant to fly. To clip their wings is to rape them, but then again, you are a rapist living in, and supporting a rape culture, so it’s no surprise you have a parakeet; and a cat.
    Also, I sleep soundly at night, sometimes so soundly, I wonder if I really woke up or it’s just a dream.

  363. ComradeDystopia March 28, 2013 at 1:13 pm #

    But it occurs to me, tho, how special, how unique the United United States really is. JHK doesn’t appreciate this fact, sometimes poking fun at ‘American Exceptionalism’. Homosexuality has been taboo in every civilization in all recorded human history, about 7000 years. Where it was prevalent, in the late Roman Empire for example, it was part of the abuse the brutal elite political class inflicted on the plebes. It didn’t end until Christianity replaced the old pagan practices after Constatine. Here the official line seems to encourage it, as a desirable state of affairs. Other ways we are exceptional: putting women in combat units when it it not absolutely necessary for national survival. Historically, in every culture on earth, bearers of children were kept out of harms way. I don’t know, perhaps we exist outside of history. Perhaps we’ve uncovered long buried secrets about human nature, ones nobody else knew. In the whole history of the world, has a civilization ever invited inside its borders tens of millions of foreigners who spoke a different language, whose folkways were different, who weren’t really needed? I don’t know of one. That’s what makes us so special, so unique, so exceptional.

  364. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 1:28 pm #

    I can empathize with the frustration of Cleese and Palin with Malcolm Muggeridge and the Bishop of Southwark in this video. The latter two remind me of many of you here. Rigid stone walls. You cannot be swayed, only crumbled, and crumbling you are.

  365. Buck's A Stud March 28, 2013 at 1:32 pm #

    Actually, Carol, you’re the one who has no clue about philosophy as your posts reveal time and time again. And as far as literature, you trace the outer contours and presume it has permeated your being.
    In fact, you have no originality. For example, I attempted to pour some content into your feeble philosophic understanding with some ‘Cave’ analogies. And what pops up today in some of Carol’s “Holy Prose” (please, don’t criticize “Carol’s Prose; however, the people/jobs that provide food,shelter,clothing, etc, to real living families can be viciously attacked in Carol’s world) but a reference to a ‘thick glove attempting to feel about a cave’.
    But it’s not really the notion of the cave (a common analogy after all) that the weak imagination of Carol “borrowed” from; it’s the glove aspect. And what’s becoming more and more apparent – embarrassingly apparent – is that “Carol The Novelist” has very few original thoughts she can claim as her own.
    Now just come clean Carol and tell CFN who “influenced” your “prose” in the particular instance of the glove?

  366. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 1:39 pm #

    Your entire post is soooo Otto. Archie calls him a vulgarian and Otto replies “you’re the vulgarian, you fuck.” Now that is a great piece of screen writing, and that is you to a tee. The fact that you don’t even see this about yourself seals the deal that you are Otto; he lacked the capacity for introspection and so do you. You fail what is most obvious about you. That’s alright, it’s both pitiful, but humorous, even though the levity is unintended. Listen Studly Dooright, you have to start in Kindergarten; you can’t just jump right to university. You have to crawl before you can walk.

  367. Julian C. Lee March 28, 2013 at 1:59 pm #

    Carolonius is a demonstration of why Blacks shouldn’t be mixed with Whites. Like a problem child, with all of their cries for affirmation and all their complaints — they make themselves the center of attention.

  368. Buck's A Stud March 28, 2013 at 2:04 pm #

    Now you’re attempting to shift the focus Carol with silly examples. It seems your weak spot – no originality – has been revealed.
    I was slow to judge you Carol. In fact, I defended you against the tide of criticism when you first unfurled your prose here on CFN. And although I recognized something peculiarly generic about your prose,I applauded you for exposing your artistic self via your writing.
    But after observing your nasty, vitriolic, condemnations of others so casually dispensed, I realized you’re not exactly the type who squints hard in order to provide a ‘sympathetic reading’ while lamenting others should do exactly that when it comes to your “Holy Prose”.
    But what really sealed your fate as far a I’m concerned is your transparent lifting of the ideas/styles/sentiments of others. Case in point: your plagiarizing of Vlad’s esoterica a day or two ago. Yes, Carol, it was that obvious; and yes Carol, people do notice.
    Simply put, you’re a lightweight with no depth. A lone, pathetic tea leaf unable to penetrate the hot waters of steeped understanding. You float on top, loud and obnoxious, curled and convoluted into copyist contortions and pathetically pounding a self-righteous chest as you do so.
    That’s the Carol I have come to know and see, and a revolting sight it is.

  369. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 2:27 pm #

    Buck, how many words must you use to say you have confirmation bias and you are unsure? Seriously, all that “flowery” prose, and you could have said the same thing in a sentence. And speaking of sentence, Q-Schmuck sentenced you with his post above, and yet you continue to prove it again and again and again, even though I said earlier “never again,” again is the theme. This is like shooting fish in a barrel.
    Some more Buckotto:

  370. Kyooshtik March 28, 2013 at 2:36 pm #

    Commenters here who have lived their lives in the NYC region (e.g. Being There) may be interested (or not) in this e-mail I sent to the NYT today. It is a follow-up to the e-mail I sent 3/19 and posted to this blog:
    Dear Editor,
    Relative to my March 19 E-Mail below, I want to inform you that Bob Teague passed away early this morning at St. Peter’s Hospital, New Brunswick, NJ. The cause was cancer. Bob was 84 and at some point this past week when he decided to discontinue chemotherapy he explained in rhyme “there’s no cure for 84.”
    If you wish to run an obituary piece and require further information may I suggest you contact his wife, Jan Xxxxxxxxxx at 732-xxx-xxxx.
    Regards, Q

  371. lucky 13 March 28, 2013 at 2:46 pm #

    CN [perhaps ‘she’ chose her initials to honor CFN]
    does not exist. Asoka never existed.
    Perhaps someone at DoD is playing a game with you.
    And us.

  372. San Jose Mom 51 March 28, 2013 at 2:54 pm #

    I finished reading Chin Kung’s commentary of “Liao-Fans Four lessons.” I appreciate the reference. It’s a fascinating peek into Pure Land Buddhism, and I have a better understanding of Chinese culture. Last night at the dinner table, all we could talk about was comparative theology!

  373. ComradeDystopia March 28, 2013 at 3:02 pm #

    Lots of rancor here, in CFNation.
    And times are still relatively good. I just filled my Ford F250 up with gas, then went out and ordered up a big meal at the local Chinese restaurant. Sh-t, wait till times get bad (if they ever do).
    A great man once asked, “Cant we all just get along?”

  374. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 3:06 pm #

    Here’s some archived footage of Bob Teague covering the Con Edison strike of 1983. It looks like a scene from Caddyshack. Can you imagine an advanced life form receiving and decoding this television transmission out in deep space somewhere? What would they think? Especially the guy in the brown checkered suit? And the accents. The Flintstones wasn’t a stretch. How about the suit for Con Edison? This is how I imagine Q-Schmuck in his hey day. Those were the days. Things were so much simpler then. At least Bob had the guts to just go when his time was up; something Q-Schmuck won’t do. Nope, Q-Schmuck will hang on even though the world no longer wants him.

  375. ComradeDystopia March 28, 2013 at 3:10 pm #

    Jen, you mean to tell me your family eats together at the dining room table, and talks to one another?
    I looked around our table at dinner last Sunday. My daughter in law and stepdaughter, both in their 20’s, spent the whole time staring down at their cellphones, on facebook. They might as well not even have been here.
    That’s why my name is ComradeDystopia!

  376. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 3:24 pm #

    A better conversation would have been how your hubby and the corporation that employs him exploit slave-labor at home and abroad. Your children will respect you if you come clean with them that the food they’re eating was paid for with slave-labor and that daddy is nothing more than an crummy overseer; out of necessity, of course; mommy couldn’t have her hair dyed otherwise, and we wouldn’t want that, would we?
    21st-Century Slaves: How Corporations Exploit Prison Labor

    Some of the largest and most powerful corporations have a stake in the expansion of the prison labor market, including but not limited to IBM, Boeing, Motorola, Microsoft, AT&T, Wireless, Texas Instrument, Dell, Compaq, Honeywell, Hewlett-Packard, Nortel, Lucent Technologies, 3Com, Intel, Northern Telecom, TWA, Nordstrom’s, Revlon, Macy’s, Pierre Cardin, Target Stores, and many more. Between 1980 and 1994 alone, profits went up from $392 million to $1.31 billion. Since the prison labor force has likely grown since then, it is safe to assume that the profits accrued from the use of prison labor have reached even higher levels.

    Maybe next time you can take another of Janos’ selections and discuss it at the dinner table whilst eating food paid for with prison and slave labor; The Protocols. Afterall, Janos has read and posted links to that here on more than one occasion. I wonder what your children would think of that? I know what I would think of it if you were my parents. I’d rip you up and down. But I’m sure your kids are held hostage by the pocket book you swing over their heads, setting them up to be corporate whores by making them dance for money in the spirit of bacha bazi.

  377. Kyooshtik March 28, 2013 at 3:28 pm #

    I must give credit where credit is due. The Entity of Indeterminate Gender is the most repellent and insufferable troll I have ever encountered. It is a person who glories in creating hatred of itself. A psychiatry researchers dream subject. Better the King of Hell than…etc. Even Its lone remaining defender, Asoka, appears to be sensibly keeping his distance from this deranged psycho. Sickest of all, this very post will thrill and delight It. As the denizens of Hollywood will tell you, “there is no such thing as bad publicity.”
    I will attempt, although it will not be easy, to eliminate direct communication with this wretched individual and limit my comments to Its failures of written communication. If so much as an i goes undotted it will be duly noted.

  378. Buck's A Stud March 28, 2013 at 3:30 pm #

    DoD? nah, not buying that; never have. Carol is simply here because she thinks she has ‘writer’s block’.
    But in order for a blockage to occur there has to be material/original ideas being obstructed. Which in Carol’s case, the obstructed material is not an intricate Beaver Dam of complexity unexpressed, but a toothpick gnarled in frustration.
    It sort of reminds me of that old Cezanne story. While Cezanne stood at his easel trying to absorb Nature herself, one of his imitators stood behind him trying to absorb his canvas as opposed to Nature he was interpreting .
    Similarly, Carol needs to stop trying to mine CFN for ideas and head for the real source: not other novelist but the great thinkers of philosophy. That’s where Carol’s literary salvation resides.
    One day she’ll thank me.

  379. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 3:45 pm #

    I will attempt, although it will not be easy, to eliminate direct communication with this wretched individual and limit my comments to Its failures of written communication. If so much as an i goes undotted it will be duly noted.
    Do you promise? Are you a grown-up? Buck couldn’t do it, what makes you think you can? Not to mention, you’ll just use one of your other sockpuppets to continue saying the same thing and thus enforcing your confirmation bias because your unsure in your condemnation of me. You exemplify the genius of the crowd in all its glory.

  380. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 3:47 pm #

    It sort of reminds me of that old Cezanne story. While Cezanne stood at his easel trying to absorb Nature herself, one of his imitators stood behind him trying to absorb his canvas as opposed to Nature he was interpreting .
    How original, you vulgarian.

  381. San Jose Mom 51 March 28, 2013 at 4:05 pm #

    Yes! Family dinners are very important. No one brings phones to the table, so it’s never been an issue. Not only that, we actually thank God for the food on the table!

  382. Kyooshtik March 28, 2013 at 4:16 pm #

    daddy is nothing more than an crummy overseer
    The correct word here, of course, is a. I can tell you exactly how this error happened. The Entity wrote the sentence originally without the word “crummy” in which case the preceding word “an” would be correct since it is followed by a word (overseer) beginning with a vowel or a vowel sound. But The Entity felt the sentence needed to be more degrading (more negative oomph, if you will) so “crummy” was inserted. Unfortunately for the repellent one, It is not adept at keeping its wits together when editing and failed to delete the n from the word “an.”
    more than an crummy overseer; out of necessity, of course; mommy couldn’t have her hair dyed otherwise, and we wouldn’t want that, would we?
    It is obvious The Entity has forgotten that It gave up excessive punctuation for Lent.
    Afterall, Janos has read
    After all How careless.

  383. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 4:21 pm #

    I knew you couldn’t. Loser. I so own you. You’re as deep down in the Loofah as Studly Dewright. Don’t bump into each other in your love-lust stupors.
    Thank you God for providing the slave-labor that made this meal possible. White People Gone Wild!

  384. Kyooshtik March 28, 2013 at 4:25 pm #

    because your unsure in your condemnation of me.
    My God! This is turning into a full time job. It’s you’re. I can see why you said your novel was in its infancy.

  385. Janos Skorenzy March 28, 2013 at 4:36 pm #

    Alot of women are like this nowadays. They’re all great tortured (by men) artists yearning to break out in a storm of creativity – and about to any minute if they can just, just, just….
    One of Bukowski’s girlfriends was writing and she said to him, You don’t understand. I’m going to be great, not like you. I have potential.
    Bukowski to girlfried: Everyone has potential, even an ant. It’s what you do that matters.

  386. Kyooshtik March 28, 2013 at 4:42 pm #

    My wife just called to tell me Bob Teague’s wife, Jan, has been contacted 3 times by the NY Times with questions for Bob’s obituary that will run soon; possibly tomorrow.
    It is a good thing to have continued life in memory.

  387. Janos Skorenzy March 28, 2013 at 4:47 pm #

    Try the practice of chanting a bit – you may be surprised as I was. I seem to have some link with this school. I chanted to Amida Buddha a few times and I got some of the dreams described – and this was before I had read about them in the book or even gotten the book. I was reading some of his other stuff.
    The Pure Land School makes some extraordinary claims – claims which seem to be backed up. It is well respected by the Practice and Esoteric Schools and Zen in particular has a close relationship. Some great Zen Masters have been dissatisfied with their level of Enlightenment and vowed to go the Western Pure Land in order to finish their training with Amida himself. In other words, there is far more here than just being a good person and getting a good rebrith within the six realms. One is reminded of Christ’s final words, “I go to prepare a Place for you.”
    Also in the Osiris Cult of Ancient Egypt, the Ka’s of the blessed would go live with him in the Western Paradise.
    Hobos used to call dying taking the West Bound.

  388. Janos Skorenzy March 28, 2013 at 4:55 pm #

    Utlimately, joriki or self power and tariki, other power, came from the same Place. D.T Suzuki also wrote about the Pure Land School and said the humbling words: it has brought more People to Enlightenment than Zen or probably any other School of Buddhism. It goes back to Revelations some of the great Mahayana Masters had in India in the years after Buddha’s Mahasamadhi. Tibet also has its own version, though it is not so much a separate school there as in China and Japan.

  389. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 5:00 pm #

    getting a good rebrith within the six realms.
    Sounds interesting. Is it anything like rebirth? Do you have anything original to say, or have you always done and said what others do and say? You want to impress me, make up your own religion and garner a couple billion followers like the great Prophet Muhammad. That’s impressive. His blessed life continues on in the memories of his faithful followers for all eternity. Top that.

  390. Janos Skorenzy March 28, 2013 at 5:05 pm #

    That shows the importance of being a Patriarch and not standing for crap like that. Maybe you should become a Promise Keeper. They have a script they use with their wives: Honey, I’m taking back control over the family, etc. But dare you stand up to cupcake?

  391. Kyooshtik March 28, 2013 at 5:05 pm #

    D.T Suzuki also wrote about the Pure Land School
    …and later set up a motorcycle factory whose products came to be known derisively by American Harley Davidson owners as “rice burners.” ;o)

  392. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 5:06 pm #

    Also in the Osiris Cult of Ancient Egypt, the Ka’s of the blessed would go live with him in the Western Paradise.
    I’m betting that’s not all they did with him. All cults are about sexual promiscuity and domination. Look at the Catholic Church. It’s a front organization for pedophiles. This is what cults do.

  393. Janos Skorenzy March 28, 2013 at 5:09 pm #

    I’m a genius. Rebrith – having one’s foreskin reattached. This could be a symbol for Whites to dejudaize themselves and go back to their OWN root Pagan and Christian roots.
    I give you my leave to run with this Carol. Run like the Hounds of Hell are after you – because they are. Queen Elizabeth didn’t like to sleep towards the end because of the horrible dreams of fire she was having. Premonitions of her rebirth as a hell being for having persecuted the Saints.

  394. Janos Skorenzy March 28, 2013 at 5:12 pm #

    Oh it’s too much – I’m still laughing about Artie. Maybe we could higher him to take care of Carlo.

  395. clive doucet March 28, 2013 at 5:22 pm #

    My comments can be found in my last post on my own website titled ‘The Post Clusterfuck Nation Post’ Website address http://clivedoucet.com/blog/
    Kind Regards, Clive Doucet

  396. GAZ March 28, 2013 at 5:45 pm #

    Muhammad married Aisha when she was 6. She was 9 when he died.
    But I’m sure you already knew that and how Muslims are world famous for how they treat women and children. Do us all a favor and move to an Islamic country, marry a Muslim man and express yourself the way you do here, hell…have an affair and get back to us.

  397. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 6:05 pm #

    Muhammad married Aisha when she was 6. She was 9 when he died.
    Prove it. I don’t believe you. I’m a Brither; let’s see the brith certificate.

  398. San Jose Mom 51 March 28, 2013 at 6:22 pm #

    It was nice to find stories of universal compassion in the Kung book. The Chinese equivalent of the New Testament’s widow’s mite and the good Samaritan.

  399. Janos Skorenzy March 28, 2013 at 6:34 pm #

    The full title of the ADL is the Anti-Defamation League of Bnai Brith. Bnai Brith means Sons of the Covenant. Sinister? You betcha ya bippy. It’s Jewish Masonry.

  400. Eleuthero5 March 28, 2013 at 6:51 pm #

    Carol said to San Jose Mom:
    A better conversation would have been how your hubby and the corporation that employs him exploit slave-labor at home and abroad. Your children will respect you if you come clean with them that the food they’re eating was paid for with slave-labor and that daddy is nothing more than an crummy overseer; out of necessity, of course; mommy couldn’t have her hair dyed otherwise, and we wouldn’t want that, would we?
    You’re a true horror. So, does every janitor, secretary, and low-level tech functionary have to quit their jobs with HP because an arm of the company they may not even be aware of exploits human(s) SOMEWHERE in the world?
    Only a mandarin like you that evades employment can afford such luxuries but I suppose that hasn’t occurred to you. So, Carol, are you a “kept” woman by your chump hubby?
    By the way, as usual, you employ a logical fallacy to try to make San Jose Mom feel morally slimy which she most assuredly is NOT. Your logical fallacy is, once again, “if one, then all”. It’s like, if I live in country X and the government does ONE bad thing we should all move out of ideological solidarity with the people done wrong in country Y.
    With your kind of thinking, you should immediately move from the USA because we do LOTS of unethical things home and abroad so by remaining here you are ethically “stained”. Of course, your “thinking” is insane and without a semblance of the faculty of reason.
    Just because HP or any other fucking country exploits someone, somewhere does NOT mean that innocent employees just trying to feed their families are “stained”. You’re ideological extremism really resembles that of an 18-year-old kid.
    By the way, to answer your question from another post of yours … why do people want to attack you here? … because a) You are the new Asoka and you post about forty times a day so you have no life, and b) Your viewpoints are just shrill ideological cant that’s irrelevant to people trying to have some kind of life.
    Just because you appear to be on the dole or kept by some poor schmuck’s salary is not our problem.

  401. Eleuthero5 March 28, 2013 at 6:53 pm #

    Errata: Just because HP or another other fucking COMPANY … from the last post.

  402. xhalor March 28, 2013 at 7:32 pm #

    I’ve tried for most of my adult life to understand this.
    You know nothing about the skill that it takes to produce the suit that you wear.
    Let alone making the cloth.
    And yet you try to impress me with the fact that you are wearing it.
    You know nothing about the skill that it takes to produce the shoes that you wear.
    Let alone making the leather.
    And yet you try to impress me with the fact that you are wearing them.
    You know nothing about the car that you drive.
    Let alone the metallurgy.
    Do you know how to bore out a 289 to a 305?
    Without cracking the water jacket?
    Why are you interesting?
    I see.
    You have used your birthright and language.
    To master collusion.
    You never learned humility, and more importantly,
    How to have fun.
    Do you bleed?
    Then you can die.
    Feel like a cheeseburger?

  403. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 7:35 pm #

    Let me get this straight. There were a few bad Nazis who spoiled the barrel. If not for those few, the Nazis would have gone down in history as a benevolent and philanthropic organization. Got it. Thanks for taking me to school. You are an excellent teacher. I see now why you chose academia.
    You are the one who is illogical, naughty professor. You assume corporations are the only way people can survive on this planet, and therefore, people MUST acquiesce to tyranny because there simply is no other way. “It’s the way it is and always will be,” is your implication. “You don’t resist.” It makes perfect sense….if your motivation is to keep the whole merry-go-round of tyranny and destruction going for your own selfish reasons, i.e. maintaining the value of your retirement portfolio. You are the one who is narrow-minded. You can only see this world through corporate-coloured glasses, and should someone come along and try to knock those lapidescent lenses off your protuberant proboscis, you pitch a fit. It’s the only way you want to see the world. It’s the only way you will ever see the world, so petrified you are.
    I encourage freedom and empowerment. You encourage docility and bondage. The first step in the direction I advocate is to say NO.
    You E, are the guy they’re bludgeoning to death.

  404. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 7:55 pm #

    It still doesn’t sound right, even with my tin ear. Try it again; the third time’s a charm.

  405. Eleuthero5 March 28, 2013 at 8:17 pm #

    Carol said:
    Let me get this straight. There were a few bad Nazis who spoiled the barrel.
    I stopped reading after this absolutely imbecilic beginning. Next thing I know you’ll be comparing a janitor at HP to Joseph Goebbels. Do you have a rational bone in your fucking body?
    Why don’t you get a job and feel what STRUGGLE and NECESSITY feel like before you absolutely decimate people with no ammunition?
    Where did I *ever* say that corporations are the only way people can survive? Some people are entrepreneurs and some work in the public sector. There’s evil in ALL sectors if you’re determined to find it.
    I never thought that a dodge-and-weave, illogical talk-alike to Asoka would ever grace our blog but you’re it!! You’re stupid and have no reasoning skills but you think you’re really a “hot” product. You’re just another shrill zero like Asoka.
    I’m still waiting for you to take that course in symbolic logic or critical thinking. It’s waiting for you and your mortal soul veritably depends upon it. Otherwise, the poor schmucks who come into your sphere will be victimized by your ideological shrieking as long as you walk the earth. I feel for them.

  406. xhalor March 28, 2013 at 8:22 pm #

    Ms. Pornquist,
    You simply MUST see the movie “Flesh Gordon”
    The underlings of the Evil Emperor Wang
    (The Perverted)
    address him with responses like
    “At once, your protuberence”
    “Yes, your assholiness”

  407. Eleuthero5 March 28, 2013 at 8:24 pm #

    I also love the way Carol vilifies people with lifestyle assumptions that aren’t even remotely true like when she assumed I was a redneck who drove a honking huge SUV or truck.
    Now she assumes I’m a doddering schoolmarm with glasses hanging off the end of my nose. First, everybody that knows me thinks I could pass for 48 years old. Second, my vision is 20/15 in both eyes.
    Then there’s your affected sophomoric attempt to spice up your verbiage with nickel/dime terms like “protuberant proboscis”. I’m the ACCURATE elocutionist here and SOPHOMORIC is the perfect term for you. You attempt to mimic the CONTOURS of intelligence but you actually don’t have the real thing.
    Oh, I also want to second the idea that your fiction writing SUCKS mightily!!! It’s just boring narrative where you try to spice it up by mocking a person’s physical features or, as you do here, hypothesize attributes which they might not even remotely possess. In other words, your fictional narratives have the same over-reliance on your self-anointed intuition and the same disrespect for actual fact as your writings here.
    Why don’t you just go to a blog with other artsy-fartsy Feminazis with a bull dyke social persona?

  408. xhalor March 28, 2013 at 8:32 pm #

    “Oh, I also want to second the idea that your fiction writing SUCKS mightily!!!”
    Perhaps a review of “Letters to Penthouse” is in order.

  409. progress4conserving March 28, 2013 at 8:47 pm #

    You’re a very good thinker*, Clive – thanks for linking your thoughts to CFN. Although, I’ll suggest one thing, that your feelings of political power would be no greater if you lived south of the border – and your actual understanding/power might be somewhat reduced, in fact.
    I wonder about your feelings on immigration into Canada. I view it as a lens, here in the States, to separate useful new policies from Business As Usual policies. Thus far, every politico we’ve got here is stuck on some permutation of BAU and growth. Can’t go on forever, but there it is right now.
    I took the liberty of excerpting a fragment of your thoughts:
    “Why all this matters is because of the sustainability issue, not that a pre-1950 city was perfectly sustainable. It was not but then no city ever has been. Cities from their first invention in Mesopotamia have been leaches on the landscape, sucking up clean water, sending back polluted water and depending on rural immigration to sustain their dense populations.” -clive-
    Very well said! And it’s very possible that the “first world” is NOW behaving, leachlike, toward the rest of the world, exactly as your Mesopotamian cities did toward their surrounding rural areas. Grim fates await 1st and 3rd worlds – for allowing this. But the blame belongs to the 1st world, and to our shills for growth and immigration.
    *since you are a good thinker, and I agreed with one of your thoughts, Clive – you can now expect to be attacked by the CFN Resident Troll, “carol.”

  410. progress4conserving March 28, 2013 at 9:13 pm #

    “You’re stupid and have no reasoning skills but you think you’re really a “hot” product. You’re just another shrill zero like Asoka.” -E5-
    Um, E, I’ve been watching this for a while, and I’m coming to the definite conclusion that this “shill zero” isn’t just LIKE asokadaquatio –
    It IS asokadaduatio.
    1. The timing is perfect, asoka..disappeared and “carol” appeared almost immediately, about a month ago now.
    2. Same levels of barely concealed hate against all things male, white, and Western
    3. Same desire to dominate the discussion thread, comment on virtually every topic, and have the last word on everything
    4. A new (asoka..like) love of all things Muslim is starting to appear in “carol,” too – along with burgeoning need to defend the Pedophilic Predilections of the Perfect Profit.
    So, sorry ladies and gents – much as CFN could benefit from a novel thinker to tell everyone here how wrong everyone here must ALWAYS be –
    All we’ve got here is asoka..recycled. IMO.

  411. Carol Newquist March 28, 2013 at 10:17 pm #

    I read Clive’s post and I believe he’s intelligent enough to know that if you take care of the rest, as in all the points he made in his article, immigration will take care of itself, meaning it will no longer be an issue. I’m quite certain Clive wouldn’t agree that scapegoating the least and most exploited amongst us will make for a more positive permanent decline. And I’m betting you don’t agree with Clive about bringing back progressive taxation….say to the level it was under FDR. See, Georgia Militia Man, Clive is real and you are not. I respect his opinion, and I loathe your ruse.

  412. progress4conserving March 28, 2013 at 10:35 pm #

    You take hubris (and mind-reading) to
    a Truly Stellar Level.
    and if that sounds like a compliment
    you are a dimbulb

  413. San Jose Mom 51 March 28, 2013 at 10:39 pm #

    Good theory.
    Might I add that it’s been years since I mentioned getting my golden (but graying) tresses highlighted–so Asoka might have remembered that. The vulgar “entity” mentioned this in a post today.

  414. Julian C. Lee March 28, 2013 at 11:12 pm #

    The vulgar entity is an African America male. This is obvious from its writing and its attitude. Keep it in mind as you read it and suddenly all will be transparent. And there will be not the least bit of the glamor and mystery that it briefly commandeered by posing as a white woman.
    The vocabulary straining ttat it believes dresses up its pedestrian writing (which it calls “prose”) is just one giveaway. I’m very sick of it. It ruins Jim’s blog.

  415. xhalor March 28, 2013 at 11:21 pm #

    Thank GOD for drugs.
    Ah…that is…”some” drugs.
    “Some” drugs…
    ….and BONER PILLS!
    So proud to be an American.

  416. anti soak March 28, 2013 at 11:32 pm #

    Bnai Re brith?

  417. xhalor March 28, 2013 at 11:56 pm #

    “I’m a genius.”
    Goddammit Cathy. Must you drag Janos into this?

  418. Janos Skorenzy March 29, 2013 at 1:32 am #

    Do you want to have a discussion or is this just your usual low level negativity? What kind of meditation are you doing? Maybe it’s not the right kind for you. Hasidic saying: Have a note in each front pocket. On one it says, The Universe was created for me and I’m the center of it. On the other, I am nothing, from dust I came and to dust I return.
    Now can you live both of these in your daily life? And can you keep both in mind at the same time so that your joy is sober and your sobriety joyous?

  419. Kyooshtik March 29, 2013 at 1:37 am #

    Amazing how quickly the wheels of journalism turn these days. The obituary of Bob Teague is on the Internet already and will be in the Friday hard copy NYT at my doorstep in a few hours.
    The facet about Bob mentioned, but NOT given its due emphasis, was his arch-conservatism. This is not something you would ever imagine in a black man if you didn’t behold it. There was an occasion when our group of 3 couples dined in a local restaurant and Bob became so voluble in favor of conservative principles and against liberals (Obama in particular) that the table next to us asked Bob if he would “please hold it down.”

  420. Janos Skorenzy March 29, 2013 at 1:41 am #

    If you are a healthy male and have had a good night’s sleep, you should have an erection in the early morning just before or as you awake. Completely non-sexual, just the fullness of the Life Force expressing itslef. Enjoy it at that level.
    Like the Buddha, I follow the open hand mode of teaching and hold nothing back that is of value. But He didn’t teach all He knew. Once He picked up a few leaves and asked his disciples, are there more leaves in my hand or on this tree. The Tree they said. Just so, Buddha said, I know much more than I teach. Things that tend not towards edification, I do not teach. But of things useful and tending towards edification – of those, I hold nothing back.
    I’m not a Buddha. I’m just using my psychic inflation to make a few points. Also by speaking like this I embarrass even myself. It’s useful, much like hitting the wrong keys on purpose when learning the piano.

  421. Janos Skorenzy March 29, 2013 at 1:46 am #

    Did he marry Black Women? Why do so many Black Men spurn their own Women for White ones? Is it just because Black Women tend to be ugly, or is it also revenge against White Men? And if he really respected Whites, wouldn’t he avoid doing this?

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  423. Eleuthero5 March 29, 2013 at 2:35 am #

    P4C said
    :Um, E, I’ve been watching this for a while, and I’m coming to the definite conclusion that this “shill zero” isn’t just LIKE asokadaquatio –
    It IS asokadaduatio.
    At first I didn’t believe it was true because the “prose” was something we never saw from Asoka. However, as time has passed, I’ve noticed that the POSTING VOLUME also resembles Asoka along with all the other bullet points.
    The most comical thing about Asoka is that he has to hide behind several name changes, gender changes, deny that he’s one of the Asoka-dots, and so on. This is pure cowardice. The vast majority of us have never created new personae because we never backed ourselves so far into an intellectual corner that our only way out was to have multiple personality disorder. ;~)

  424. mika. March 29, 2013 at 3:24 am #

    Good post, Carol.
    You are indeed correct in your analysis. The Vatican fascist nazi matrix depends on the ‘banality of evil’, to borrow a phrase used to describe the systematic plunder and murder that was the essence of the nazi regime. Anyone with the least bit of conscience understands and understood this from day one. And yes, the school teachers, the judges, the bankers, the “regular” bureaucracts, and all the other participants that made the nazi regime tick, are all just as culpable as the higher-ups or so-called ‘tip of the spear’.
    Furthermore, the analogy between the german nazi regime and the US fascist regime is extremely correct. There are very few differences if any between the two. In fact, given that they both are Roman/Vatican manifestations, they are for all intent and purpose one and the same — sister snakes from the same Vatican medusa.

  425. mika. March 29, 2013 at 3:42 am #

    And Carol, there is no where to run.
    The Vatican Islamo-fascists or the Vatican Zion-fascistS or the Vatican “Soviets” are all Vatican. People, including you, need to learn this and understand this. It’s all Vatican theater for the emotionally manipulated.

  426. mika. March 29, 2013 at 4:46 am #

    Same applies to you, Q., so what’s your excuse? Da girlfriend forgot to retract the carrot from your ass?

  427. Eleuthero5 March 29, 2013 at 7:26 am #

    Oh, dear. Mika is back. His hackneyed “the Vatican are the evil Illuminati” stuff is so damned boring. I’m sure that Mika and Carolquatio will become allied in stringing together adjective strings like “Muslim-Vatican-Soviet-Nazi-Banker fascists”.
    Gee, for a very short spell this board seemed almost sane. Now with Carolquatio posting 30 times a day as a “woman”, the return of Mika, and Julian’s astrological gibberish, hell has returned to CFN with renewed vengeance.

  428. Carol Newquist March 29, 2013 at 7:59 am #

    Take another ride in the time machine back to 1983 again and this WNBC News segment with Bob Teague about a train derailment:
    I listened to it ten times already, and I can’t make any sense of what Bob is saying. How did this get past the editors and onto the air? Can you imagine Bob talking like this about Obama with Q-Schmuck at dinner? No wonder people told him to shut the hell up. He doesn’t make any sense.
    I didn’t know Cafferty was a co-anchor at this station in the eighties. Wow, you learn something new every day. Now he’s a token curmudgeon for Corporate News Network (CNN). Just another corporate whore like many of you punks here. Nice try, Jack, you loser.
    I’m betting E didn’t wake up with a boner this morning. Even if he did, it would have been impeded by the tight panties he was wearing.
    See, his life continues on in our memories. I remember Bob as someone who didn’t understand when enough was enough, except when it came to his own physical life.

  429. mika. March 29, 2013 at 8:45 am #

    ..returned to CFN with renewed vengeance
    Not on your life! You can have your board. Continue to indulge your nazi instincts, in your little corner of nazi “sanity”. Enjoy!

  430. Carol Newquist March 29, 2013 at 8:52 am #

    As I read Jeanette Walls The Glass Castle, the irony is not lost on me that her parents failed, not because they are homeless and have always marched to the beat of their own drum, but because their children forfeited themselves to the mainstream and all its phoney trappings. I watched an interview of her with Stephen Colbert and all I can say is, if I were Rex Walls per the description of him in that book, I’d be ashamed. Instead of ducking down in a cab as Jeanette did when she saw her mother on a New York street rummaging through garbage, I’d be ducking down behind a garbage can if someone were playing that interview on their i-pad as they passed by my dumpster. I doubt Jeanette sees that irony, which makes reading this book all the more entertaining and remarkable. Occasional diamonds can be found in the shit pile of corporate whoredom. This is one such diamond.

  431. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject March 29, 2013 at 9:40 am #

    Q, not trying to infringe on your territory here, but I’m starting to appreciate your OCD grammar affliction and am working to develop an eye for spotting the minor grammatical faults that fudge up my own writing. Got a research paper back recently where I lost 9 points for the most silly errors one could imagine. It was still an A, but it dawned on me that after 4 years of not having to write a thing I needed to dust of the syntax text. As such, it forces a diagnostic look at sentences, as in resorting to the dreaded sentence diagramming that my favorite detention teacher use to make me do. Anyhow, I wouldn’t normally notice such things had it not been for your sightings here. Here’s an ironic example of poor sentence construction used to criticize another writer’s poor construction:
    [stringing together adjective strings like…]
    Now, I’m searching through an old Martha Koln grammar text to find a syntactic description of what is wrong with the first part of the above clause: “stringing together adjective strings”. Isn’t that an ordinary case of redundancy? Just as well could have been cut to read, “stringing together adjectives like…”, right? I think you noticed something similar from another post yesterday.I’m wondering if there is ever a case where such redundancy can be appropriately used for effect though haven’t found a good example. And the second part of the same clause,”Muslim-Vatican-Soviet-Nazi-Banker fascists”, if I remember my eight parts of speech, is a series of nouns, not adjectives. So the gripe being made in the sentence isn’t even on target. I guess the argument could be made that each of those nouns are being used as modifiers for fascist, sort of like adjectives, but they’re still nouns. It’s a case of simple “nouniness” that’s being quibbled about, I suppose a grammarian would say.
    Anyhow, OCD is beginning to reach into other aspects of my own thinking after reading this blog. Thank goodness Spring break is almost over. Oops, coffee’s done. Time to get to the yard work. Ahh, yard-work, a noun modifying a noun as an adjective. Never mind the rant. OCD is a bitch.

  432. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject March 29, 2013 at 10:02 am #

    Just a quick offering for exploration today. This story is downright bizarre. Out of the blue a “former” U.S. soldier is being charged with fighting alongside an Al Qaeda group in Syria? WTF, so much of this story seems fake. If he wasn’t any longer part of the military, how and why would he still even be over there? The story was planted during the middle of the night for some reason.

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    Had to make some more coffee. Somehow this soldier is being set up as a patsy. My runaway imagination suspects that there’s a chemical weapons link being hidden from view in the new media charade. I’ll hopefully develop JHK’s conspiracy theory allergy later in life.

  435. Jam47 March 29, 2013 at 11:17 am #

    Your frequent railings against corporate culture are undermined by your self-description: you have a house to live in, money for movies and overseas travel, lots of free time. These are luxuries. They are available to you because of American business enterprise. What’s been given you by America’s corporations is greater than what’s been taken.
    To make convincing your complaints about America’s economic exploitation of other countries, Third World ones especially, you’ll have to take your computer to one of those countries and send in your complaints from there.
    And you’d have to make the transition without cheating–no remittances from America, no whoring, no money at all except what you could virtuously earn.
    Try Kenya. Try Guyana. Try Egypt. Once the culture shock has worn off, your sympathy for the coloured folk of the world will enable you to fit right in.

  436. Jam47 March 29, 2013 at 11:37 am #

    The fixation of American black people on America’s whites has narrowed their vision. It has prevented them from realizing who their real enemies are: the East Indians and the Chinese.
    If white people were removed from the world, American blacks, blacks everywhere, would be left at the mercy of Asians, who, in regard to blacks, have little mercy.
    Newquist wishes the elimination of the white race. If her wishes are ever realized, she, or generations subsequent to her own, would witness the re-enslavement of blacks.

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  438. lucky 13 March 29, 2013 at 11:59 am #

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    Why did those 2 groups not already overtake Africa
    via immigration and colonization?

  439. lucky 13 March 29, 2013 at 12:00 pm #

    I meant ‘pay to play’.

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  441. progress4conserving March 29, 2013 at 12:14 pm #

    “If white people were removed from the world, American blacks, blacks everywhere, would be left at the mercy of Asians, who, in regard to blacks, have little mercy.” -jam47-
    As I told Buck’s a 2X4 last week,immigration harms the native born US black population. I was seeking to defend US blacks against direct competition for lower level jobs.
    His response to me was to argue:
    1. If you are against immigration
    2. US blacks should get up early and work late
    3. Because Mexicans are tough, and work cheap
    4. For Buck understands all about labor
    In other words, a complete non sequitur.
    Now, jam, your argument about Asians and Blacks is more worrisome than mine – long term – but do not look for logic among the SPLC and the Black leadership class in the US in addressing it.
    And don’t look for Buck to demonstrate any real helpfulness about the situations, either.

  442. Janos Skorenzy March 29, 2013 at 1:00 pm #

    The Indians were conquering from the ground up by their hard work. But Blacks were jealous and threw them out. They said they wanted the little stores for themselves, but most were left vacant or just became bars. The Indian Groceries, which feature canned and bulk grains, could have been a useful system of food distribution for those countries.
    The Chinese are conquering from the Top Down, with the Red Army actually on the ground in some countries. They will move if and when the West collapses. The West does seem interested in checking them in at least parts of Africa.

  443. Janos Skorenzy March 29, 2013 at 1:04 pm #

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  447. Kyooshtik March 29, 2013 at 2:43 pm #

    Did he marry Black Women?
    Bob Teague’s (current) wife is white and as a working psychologist is accomplished in her own right. I don’t know about his first wife. It never came up in conversation.
    Bob was a man very confident in himself, very comfortable in his own (black) skin. In the four or five years I knew Bob I can’t recall a single instance when he spoke in terms of black or white. Without resort to braggadocio, Bob was able to convey that he was quite proud of his intellect and the life he had fashioned. Yet he never once implied or said “I come from humble beginnings.”
    At the next to last dinner party of our little group there were two health issues Bob was dealing with: he had had a knee replacement and it was not healing properly. He was worse off than before the surgery. Secondly, while dealing with the bum knee the doctors discovered he had cancer and they began chemotherapy. So now Bob limped badly and was bald and wore a ball cap to cover it. Yet you never saw anyone so upbeat… “no, the nausea chemo is supposed to cause is non-existent in me… and the cancer seems to be going in remission.” As we sat at the dining room table in his and Jan’s apartment Bob stood and launched into a recitation of a long and clever poem. We were amazed and when he finished we all cheered. Someone asked what prompted him to memorize that poem. He said he did it when he was in college as a way to “get women” and his wink indicated it worked.
    My wife says she saw a picture of his son and grand kids and they are much fairer than Bob (“and beautiful”) so she believes the first wife was white as well.
    Last Friday my wife and I visited Bob in the hospital and took with us his last book titled “Tea Party Rage in Rhyme” to have him sign it. It’s a slim volume containing 88 poems. (Robert Frost’s position at the pinnacle of American poetry remains intact.) He couldn’t attract a publisher so he self-published it. Profit was never his motivation. It came out a few months before the November elections and in its pages Bob does all he can to derail the re-election of Obama and the Left in general. The title of one poem – “Affirmative Fiasco” – will give you the general flavor.
    Two days before our visit of last Friday Bob informed his wife that he had discontinued the chemotherapy. He could see by now that it was fruitless and would just dig a deeper financial hole for his wife. He gave Jan final instructions: “have me cremated, no funeral; take the money this saves and throw a big party with all our friends.”

  448. Carol Newquist March 29, 2013 at 3:12 pm #

    After pointing out the filthy hypocrisies that your finely-tuned brain has perceived, you can’t use that information to invalidate an argument the hypocrite has made.
    Just as I won’t invalidate your argument and the fine points you made about Corporatism, even though you are also a hypocrite. Also, no finely-tuned brain there at all; it’s more like a one-track mind, like yours. Your fallacy Bustin Jay is that the process can be blamed on immigration, and of course that’s bogus bullshit. You’re the “Environmental Guy” and the “Anti-Corporate Guy” in this little charade you fascist immigrant bashers are playing. Your job is to recruit that segment. Anyone with any semblance of intelligence can see right through it. You’re a right wing boot-licking douchebag masquerading as an anarchist. In otherwords, you’re an impotent, little pussy who needs his ass kicked.

  449. UnstoppableFarceImmovableAbject March 29, 2013 at 3:14 pm #

    Now that’s some prose. Hands down the the most thorough use of nuance and logic on the blog; time and again you smash, Jay. That’s real talent. Do you have a blog?
    Won’t be peerin’ in as much as the semester picks back up, but I’ll be lookin’ for posts from Zone & Jay every Monday after reading JHK’s set up topic.

  450. Carol Newquist March 29, 2013 at 3:19 pm #

    Here’s a clip of Samuel L. Jackson playing Bob Teague. This is one of Jackson’s best parts, imo. It was spot on.

  451. Bustin Jay March 29, 2013 at 3:30 pm #

    Carl Newskwist said “Your fallacy Bustin Jay is that the process can be blamed on immigration, and of course that’s bogus bullshit.”
    There is a relationship between immigration and the corporate culture it supports. It is a cycle re-enforcing itself.
    Corporate agriculture requires immigration. More immigration means more cheap or free labor. Which leads to more businesses taking advantage of this labor pool to expand their capital operations, which is to say, more of the same. This expansion requires more immigrants, and etc. The populations grow and displace the interests of “ordinary” Americans and uphold the substitution for what are corporate interests.
    Americans time and again were opposed to the free-trade fiascoes, the environmental damage, the foreign wars, the government spending, and illegal immigration… for decades, and the consistent response by Corporate America and the government they bought wholesale is to squash this voice with bromides about the country being a nation of immigrants and how noble it is that we let in people who “work hard”!
    This relationship is historically well-documented. I may not fly the same flag as others on the board in relation to race or ethnic issues, but I am smart enough to perceive the method behind the madness and wise enough to know where all this ends up- and we are frightfully close to that endgame- where the Hispanic special interest political bloc establishes itself as the swing vote, thereby making even the outside chance of average Americans gaining control of the culture a total impossibility… for their own self-interest.

  452. Bustin Jay March 29, 2013 at 3:34 pm #

    BTW, I’m no hypocrite. I know about what I speak. I live in a state with a huge immigrant population, a huge corporate agriculture sector. I walk the highways and byways. I’ve traveled in Mexico. I know what the fuck is up. They are here to do jobs that don’t benefit me. I have no lawn to be trimmed, no driveway to be pressure-washed, I don’t eat corporate food, I don’t support pesticide production, I don’t want to pay for their public school indoctrinations, I don’t want to participate in my own political disenfranchisement, etc., etc., and so on.
    Corporate governance is taking over! We are heading for fascism, in a world tilted toward chaos and environmental destruction.
    ¿Qué decir sobre eso, amigo?

  453. Carol Newquist March 29, 2013 at 3:46 pm #

    There is a relationship between immigration and the corporate culture it supports. It is a cycle re-enforcing itself.
    I don’t disagree with this at all. But you don’t solve that by chopping the tail off. You solve it by severing the head, and that head is Corporatism, amongst other things. NumbersUSA is not about addressing inverted totalitarianism. It’s about lopping the tail off this dog and it won’t solve a thing. Go for the head, and the tail won’t be an issue.
    And yes, you are a hypocrite for the very same reasons I am. Even Jeanette Walls’ homeless parents are hypocrites in that they survive on the crumbs of a system that has turned this planet into a toxic stew, both literally and figuratively. The only way you wouldn’t be a hypocrite would be to walk into the wild and never return. I’m not willing to do that, and neither are you, so we remain hypocrites. Yes, on a scale of hypocrisy, we may be lesser hypocrites, but who cares anyway. Not me. Not anymore.

  454. Kyooshtik March 29, 2013 at 3:52 pm #

    …can be blamed on immigration, and of course that’s bogus bullshit.
    …can be blamed on immigration and, of course, that’s bogus bullshit.
    In otherwords, you’re an impotent, little pussy who needs his ass kicked.
    In other words, you’re an impotent little pussy who needs his ass kicked.
    The Entity continues to have comma troubles.

  455. Carol Newquist March 29, 2013 at 4:13 pm #

    Bob was able to convey that he was quite proud of his intellect and the life he had fashioned.
    This is a bizarre statement. Maybe you can elaborate, because I’m having a tough time envisioning just how this is done.
    Either way, nobody has any business being proud of themselves about anything, but especially a “perceived” intellect. But let’s say you disagree, and you want to convey your pride. Tell us how that’s done without being a braggart? Are you proud of your intellect, Q-Schmuck? I’m not proud of mine. In fact, the idea of “pride” doesn’t even enter my mind, but you somehow imply that this was a conscious choice on Bob’s part, and perhaps it’s also a conscious choice on your part, as well. I assure you, Q-Schmuck, per your behavior in this comments section that I have witnessed for quite some time, you have nothing to be proud of, and anything you’ve done IRL that you think you have reason to be proud of, has been besmirched by what you do here.

  456. annulike5703 March 29, 2013 at 4:31 pm #

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  457. Janos Skorenzy March 29, 2013 at 4:45 pm #

    You obviously admire him deeply and indeed, he sound admirable. His kind is very rare among the Black Race – though I think I’ve met one or two. What does it say about the Black Race that Blacks like him marry outside it?
    If he had married Black, his children almost cetainly would have been dumber than him by a long shot a la the Law of Regression to the Mean. By marrying White Women he lessened the chance of this happening although in consequence, he was breeding himself and us out of existence.

  458. Buck's A Stud March 29, 2013 at 6:19 pm #

    I have always done my best to try and avoid surgery if possible. Just recently, in fact, I slipped on some black ice and landed on my shoulder. I’m sure I tore a rotator cuff and most definitely a biceps tendon because I couldn’t lift my arm up for a week or so, not even two inches. (Typing was a bit of a challenge if I didn’t put the keyboard in my lap.) At any rate, I kept on with my Tai Chi practice and my good arm became the “crutch” that helped my bad arm move thru a passive range of motion. Now I’m no Doc, but I believe that one should try and move up until the point of where a tear might reoccur and then back off. In other words, not movement to the point of re-injury, but movement that instills malleability within the formation of scar tissue.
    One other thing was very interesting. In the internal Chinese martial arts, “Chan Ssu Chin” (spiraling, twisting, circular movement) is touted as being a technique that amplifies power. But I now have theory as to how it was discovered and how it might have originally came into being. At one time China was an incredibly violent place and martial arts such as Hsing-I, Pa Qua, Tai Chi were held in very high esteem among pugilists. At any rate, combat implies injury, and I noticed that with my arm injury the only way I could lift my arm pain-free was via spiraling and circular movement. Moreover, the twisting movements produce a pump/wringing like action within the fascia/soft tissue that augments blood flow – think of twisting a wet towel, for instance. Long story short: I can now lift my arm up in full range of motion with very little pain. My experience with Chan Ssu Chin that allowed me to continue training leads me to believe it was a technique birthed of pain, or the avoidance of it rather, and not necessarily of combat considerations, although it does indeed produce greater power than simple linear technique.
    In fact, I’ll probably cancel my ortho appointment next week. But I have to say, taking a fall out of nowhere is some creepy shit as the implications can be rather severe. Once upon a time I was very adept at falling. I practiced Swei Ba Shien – Eight Drunken Immortals – and I (and our class in general) could fall and roll on concrete and pavement with no pain or injury because are bodies were relaxed and “rolled” upon impact instead of landing with a blunt thump. (Although when a fall comes out of nowhere, such as black ice on a dark night, the automatic reflex of avoidance and tension arises naturally thus amplifying the chance of injury [they say drunken drivers often come out of accidents unharmed because they are so relaxed].)
    Moral of the story: If you fall try and minimize the blunt impact by not resisting the fall and instead enlist the circularity of a roll.

  459. ComradeDystopia March 29, 2013 at 7:05 pm #

    Anybody here still worried about peak oil? Or is it a dead issue?
    The phrase ‘moot point’ goes back to Shakespeare. It might apply here.

  460. San Jose Mom 51 March 29, 2013 at 7:55 pm #

    Glad you are using self-healing strategies. I swear by Qi Gong. My joints feel 10 years younger now that I’m practicing regularly.

  461. adequatio March 29, 2013 at 8:00 pm #

    I don’t think Carol is Asoka. Asoka was polite and did not attack through name calling. Asoka did not have the creative writing ability Carol has. The post frequency and defense of Mohommed (sp?) are just coincidental. Asoka was a punk and did not have Carol’s range of vocabulary or Carol’s coherence. Asoka was all over the place and contradicted himself repeatedly. Different birds, though both took a beating from old timers here.

  462. progress4conserving March 29, 2013 at 8:14 pm #

    “…peak oil? Or is it a dead issue?” -cd-
    Yeah, points noted, cd.
    How long has it been since JHK did his weekly essay on anything related to “peak oil,” anyway?
    It’s been a while.
    You know the concept of the “bumpy plateau,” right?
    I’m pretty sure that’s where we are.
    You’re my age or a little older. You remember the patriotic surge after the “Arab Oil Embargo,” back in 1973, when the price of oil went to +/-$50/barrel for a little while.
    Then it went down
    Then it went up – and everybody was freakin’ out.
    Then it went down.
    Then in ’07, oil went high and stayed high long enough that the world economy crashed.
    So oil went down.
    And now fracking, etc is creating a glut.
    And oil will go down.
    Hold on.
    Oil will go up again.
    We’ll all be freakin’ out.
    Some day oil will go so high that average US residents begin to struggle to keep themselves fed, and that will be on a good day.
    asok”carol” has always wanted the US to descend to a third world standard of living – with none of the positive attributes of third world living.
    he/she/it will get this wish fulfilled.
    serves us right.
    sucks for the children, though.
    they deserved slower US population growth.

  463. adequatio March 29, 2013 at 8:22 pm #

    DoD? Don’t you think it is suspicious that K-dog and Asoka disappeared about the same time? Maybe they were both DoD agents (or were the same person?) and got furloughed?

  464. adequatio March 29, 2013 at 8:57 pm #

    I should have said: “Asoka was a copy/paste punk without an original thought in his head” (he would probably accuse me of “racism” just for saying that)

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  466. Buck's A Stud March 29, 2013 at 10:40 pm #

    It’s powerful stuff San Jose mom.
    I often wonder why those who lobby for “Peak Oil” discussion fail to see the relevancy of this particular topic. It’s as if they want to vicariously anticipate some collapse scenario but not discuss the not so minor issue of health and self-healing as you term it. I mean try to handle a rifle/firearm with a bum rotator cuff injury, speaking of a wake up call.

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  469. Eleuthero5 March 30, 2013 at 8:39 am #

    Peak Oil? Very far from a dead issue. The latest tragicomedy is the idea that the Bakken is somehow going to save us. Even if the USA hogged ALL of the oil from this bounty of new wells and shale formations, it would buy us five to seven years.
    That’s what’s so dark about this particular tragicomedy i.e., since we’ll sell most of it our “bonanza” is going to be a couple of years of leeway. Of course, when one looks at the energy landscape are we really going gangbusters on windmills, nuclear, or anything else? Hardly. We’re proceeding as if we have all the time in the world.
    A few years ago TheOilDrum.com said that in 13 years the world’s oil situation goes critical. Well, if our newfound bonanzas bought us a couple of years, the situation is critical in about 11 years. Big whoop-de-doo, eh?
    Why aren’t economic pundits noticing that oil just will NOT stay down? It bounced smartly from $92 back right up to $97. This public relations stunt by the Obama Administration is really sorry. Ooh … we’re at our levels of production from the 1990s. Hell, by that time we were in serious depletion … and still are.

  470. BeingThere March 30, 2013 at 9:25 am #

    Even in this week’s post by JHK, he addresses the peak oil effect on our economy.
    Agreed. Whatever we get from the new bonanza will be sold on the global bourse.
    I ran into this article that echos JHK on the subject.
    In a bubble economy the only thing we can do is create bubbles.
    I wonder how many people will be parted from their money on this new gold rush.

  471. Carol Newquist March 30, 2013 at 9:47 am #

    In a bubble economy the only thing we can do is create bubbles.
    What an interesting Freudian slip, or was it, to say “we.” Who are the “we?” Is Jeanette Walls’ mother blowing bubbles rifling through garbage cans in Manhattan for discarded junk? Or perhaps you’re in agreement with me that if you’re a corporate employee and have a retirement plan that’s invested with Wall Street, you’re a Little Eichman that is part of the “we.” If it’s the latter, I agree, but don’t be so presumptuous as to speak for everyone here. I am not a part of that “we.” I divorced that Beast and sentenced it to death. And here, I’ve had to battle those who defend it as you scratch their back. What does that make you on the pecking order? If you’re going to be part of the Dark Side, you might as well make it pay, meaning maximize your wealth potential, but instead we have peons like yourself and E shilling for the ones smart enough to keep themselves busy accumulating all that wealth whilst they leave the dirty work to you. So proud you must be. Loser. You and E are nothing more than metaphorical janitors for Evil Incorporated, and I despise you with every benefiber of my being. I don’t want to convince any of you, I’m here to oppose and depose you. Every step you take, every breath you take, I’ll be watching you. I’ll be in your face shoving my fist down your metaphorical throats until the universe decides the time is right for you to be no more. Then we will celebrate the new dawn. There will be dancing in the streets. Evil will have been vanquished, never to be seen or heard from again. This is the essence of hope. It’s within our sights. The Year One is approaching, and nothing you do can prepare you for your deserved fate.

  472. BeingThere March 30, 2013 at 10:17 am #

    One more thing today:
    From Greg Palast:
    […Let me explain why these words rocked my casbah.
    I’d already had in my hands a 101-page document, another State Department secret scheme, first uncovered by Wall Street Journal reporter Neil King, that called for the privatization, the complete sell-off of every single government-owned asset and industry. And in case anyone missed the point, the sales would include every derrick, pipe and barrel of oil, or, as the document put it, “especially the oil”.
    That plan was created by a gaggle of corporate lobbyists and neo-cons working for the Heritage Foundation. In 2004, the plan’s authenticity was confirmed by Washington power player Grover Norquist. (It’s hard to erase the ill memory of Grover excitedly waving around his soft little hands as he boasted about turning Iraq into a free-market Disneyland, recreating Chile in Mesopotamia, complete with the Pinochet-style dictatorship necessary to lock up the assets – while behind Norquist, Richard Nixon snarled at me from a gargantuan portrait.)
    The neo-con idea was to break up and sell off Iraq’s oil fields, ramp up production, flood the world oil market – and thereby smash OPEC and with it, the political dominance of Saudi Arabia.
    General Jay Garner also confirmed the plan to grab the oil. Indeed, Garner told me that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld fired him, when the General, who had lived in Iraq, complained the neo-con grab would set off a civil war. It did. Nevertheless, Rumsfeld replaced Garner with a new American viceroy, Paul Bremer, a partner in Henry Kissinger’s firm, to complete the corporate takeover of Iraq’s assets – “especially the oil”.
    But that was not to be. While Bremer oversaw the wall-to-wall transfer of Iraqi industries to foreign corporations, he was stopped cold at the edge of the oil fields.
    ….Weirdly, I was uncovering that the US oil industry was using its full political mojo to prevent their being handed ownership of Iraq’s oil fields. That’s right: The oil companies did NOT want to own the oil fields – and they sure as hell did not want the oil. Just the opposite. They wanted to make sure there would be a limit on the amount of oil that would come out of Iraq.

  473. progress4conserving March 30, 2013 at 10:25 am #

    “Asoka was polite and did not attack through name calling.”
    -asokadequatio, lying about himself-
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  476. ozone March 30, 2013 at 10:38 am #

    Bustin, you sez (on Jammies horrifying “truth in advertising”):
    “What’s been given you by America’s corporations is greater than what’s been taken.” (-Jammed)
    This should be chiseled out of granite, 40 feet high, in a Gothic Font across the bottom of Mt. Rushmore so that no one alive today or hundreds of years into the future could doubt:
    1. Who we are as a society
    2. What the fundamental precepts of our culture are
    3. Why we did what we did to the planet and ourselves
    Goddamn right. This Corporo-fascist paradigm also explicitly supports the wonders of cheap imported labor to mostly do jobs that prop up more Corporo-fascism. A simple, self-reinforcing feedback loop; there is nothing complicated going on here. (Very few things “need” the aid of pressure washing, aside from garbage scows, trucks and recepticles.) What would Big Ag be without it?
    IMO, the establishment of a “Hispanic” voting bloc is quite purposeful. Although the “proud new voters” don’t realize that they’ve already been metaphorically locked into their own ghetto and role as another lumpenprole faction to bite and claw with their unperceived allies, they will help make it possible for the puppet-masters to continue on their merry way, setting about on further planetary plunder, unmolested. Nothing must be allowed to get in the way of the ownership and selling of everything that can possibly be commodified.
    …All because we’ve been carefully taught to want more than can ever be provided. Some of us saw that for the empty promise it is a long time ago. (And why I still wish obliteration upon Madison Ave., toadies to banal evil.)
    Tying debt-slavery to necessities was an absolutely brilliant strategy for the vampiric extraction of wealth. It allows for the consideration of NOTHING else. Anyone who holds this to be the height of human achievement should be ridiculed and shunned.
    Got money worries? TPTB certainly hope so…

  477. progress4conserving March 30, 2013 at 10:39 am #

    Nice information, BT.
    Certainly helps to complete the picture for us.
    Interesting that “carol” seems even more frantic than usual in “her” obfuscations.
    “You and E are nothing more than metaphorical janitors for Evil Incorporated, and I despise you with every benefiber of my being.”
    -aso”carol,” frantically mixing metaphors-
    Gee, I wish “carol” would attack me again.
    “she’s” so passionate and intense, you know?
    “………………….the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.”

  478. Carol Newquist March 30, 2013 at 10:40 am #

    ….Weirdly, I was uncovering that the US oil industry was using its full political mojo to prevent their being handed ownership of Iraq’s oil fields. That’s right: The oil companies did NOT want to own the oil fields – and they sure as hell did not want the oil. Just the opposite. They wanted to make sure there would be a limit on the amount of oil that would come out of Iraq.
    That supports the theory that the oil industry has foisted Peak Oil via the conspiracy theory back door whilst purposely limiting supply to support the backdoor theory. The end result is record profits as the price fixers at Goldman Sachs bid the higher prices up to the predetermined levels as part of the ruse. Since “customers” are captive, they’ll have to pay the going rate, or suffer the consequences. And so, everyone pays, including the ones who arranged it all, but of course they get a refund that’s several multiples greater from the investment gains on their price-rigging scam. It’s a fancy way to tax the plebs without legislation, but not without the aid of government. See, you’re double-taxed in this process. Once for the FIT that goes to funding the military to secure those oil fields where supply must be limited, and second, directly by the price fixers/setters of oil at Goldman-Sachs. Don’t forget, the Boys In The Backroom for Enron who executed the scam against California energy customers didn’t go to jail; instead, they went to Goldman-Sachs and ten or more years later, we now have the very same thing, but instead of just California, it’s global.
    All of that is not to say Peak Oil isn’t real, but it is to say that the oil companies own the story of Peak Oil, and so long as they do, the Truth will never be known.

  479. Carol Newquist March 30, 2013 at 10:53 am #

    So I take it you support Clive’s call for a return to the progressive taxation rates of FDR? I’d support that as a start. Would you? Step up to the plate. A simple yes or no will do.
    How about a repeal of corporate personhood? How about a repeal of Citizens United? How about legislating a livable wage? How about limiting in size any organization whose purpose is for productive “work” so it’s never too big to fail? How about making it mandatory that instead of corporations and shareholders, all organizations whose formation is for purposes of productive “work” are formed and owned by all employees of that organization rather than absentee, unproductive shareholders?
    Step up, ozone. It’s time to quit hiding behind the bat rack in the dugout. Sometimes you have to take a few beanings on the noggin to get over the fear of staying in the batter’s box let alone stepping up to the plate.
    Clive is real, your buddies here are not. Now it’s time for you to get real and speak in no uncertain terms. It’s time for your rendition of “This I Believe.”

  480. progress4conserving March 30, 2013 at 1:29 pm #

    “”How about…
    “How about…”
    “How about…
    “How about…”
    How about you stop believing that if everyone would just ‘think like “carol,”‘ that the World Would Then Be Perfect.
    Failing that, “carol,” how about you hold your breath until you turn purple and I’ll sell you for a grape at the farmers market this Wednesday.
    That’s something you have some control over.
    Unlike research outcomes.
    You’ll hate this. Therefore, it must be valid.

  481. Janos Skorenzy March 30, 2013 at 4:52 pm #

    An estimated 30,000 people in Britain have frozen to death this winter. Last winter, about 24,000. But it’s not an urgent issue because the media doesn’t say it is. “Racism” and “Global Warming” are however. We live in a Fun House created by them.

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  484. xhalor March 30, 2013 at 7:50 pm #

    You know, I just hate the races. That’s right. Every fuckin’ one of ’em.
    Blacks, whites, grays, high-yellas, TOTALLY yellas…
    Who has relations with an ENTIRE race?
    Don’t know about you, but I know individuals.
    If you are in the habit of hanging out with individuals that you don’t get along with,
    I have to wonder why?
    I was recommended a book a while ago. It is titled “The Ecology of Commerce”. I learned of it after watching the documentary “The Corporation”. Now seems a good time to re-visit it. A brief, yet, powerful read. Chapter Two is entitled “The Death of Birth”. It really got to me.
    I can’t take Boner Pills. This appears to be a life-long problem. If I did, the “crack of dawn” would’nt be safe.
    Now, on to the important shit. Hank Aaron never took steroids. They do NOTHING to improve hand-eye coordination.
    After forty plus years of watching baseball games, Barry Bonds was the only batter who I ever saw intentionally walked with the bases loaded. Now that’s fear.
    So are we afraid of giving up our houses or our cars? That’s situational. A house is your anchor if you have enough open ground and a supportive community.
    OTHERWISE, you use your car as your portable shelter as long as you can to go to where the food and employment opportunities are.
    You know, there probably never has been a time when the artists only had to concentrate on art.

  485. ComradeDystopia March 30, 2013 at 9:00 pm #

    “We live in a funhouse created by them.”-Vlad
    Vlad, we all of us have a ringside seat at the American Freak Show. Its the Greatest Show on Earth!

  486. ComradeDystopia March 30, 2013 at 9:10 pm #

    Just for example, today at the pharmacy I saw a kid, a teenager, with earrings almost the size of coffe cup saucers, INSIDE HIS EARLOBES! And they were hollowed out.
    Now that’s entertainment!

  487. xhalor March 30, 2013 at 9:22 pm #

    OK. I’ll stop now.
    I swear

  488. Eleuthero5 March 30, 2013 at 11:15 pm #

    Jam said to Carol:
    Your frequent railings against corporate culture are undermined by your self-description: you have a house to live in, money for movies and overseas travel, lots of free time. These are luxuries. They are available to you because of American business enterprise. What’s been given you by America’s corporations is greater than what’s been taken.
    To make convincing your complaints about America’s economic exploitation of other countries, Third World ones especially, you’ll have to take your computer to one of those countries and send in your complaints from there.
    And you’d have to make the transition without cheating–no remittances from America, no whoring, no money at all except what you could virtuously earn.
    Try Kenya. Try Guyana. Try Egypt. Once the culture shock has worn off, your sympathy for the coloured folk of the world will enable you to fit right in.
    This was simply a brilliant rebuttal of her nonsense.

  489. Eleuthero5 March 30, 2013 at 11:29 pm #

    BT said:
    I wonder how many people will be parted from their money on this new gold rush.
    One never knows the full and final intentions of the “one percenters” but it’s AS IF they are trying to coax the retail investor into the surging market so that the middle class can be destroyed once and for all.
    We must not forget that the Euro-American plutocracy are all CLUB OF ROME people and they don’t want to commit genocide so they’ve formulated a way to make ordinary people so miserable that life expectancy is going to drop like a rock.
    Even “good” medical insurance leaves you with several thousand dollars out of pocket for minor surgeries. And costs are gong up upwards of 10% a year and it’s already absolutely out of hand. Some people will start choosing a dignified death over living another three years in misery … which wouldn’t be the worst thing that ever happened.
    The decline in real wages is accelerating so fast that the individual median is now below $40K and I expect the family median to drop below $50K soon. Houses, even post-bust, are still more than 3X of household income … the old 1960s limit of affordability. Even at 3X you’re struggling like hell.
    I see the apparent apathy of the one percenters as a subtle outgrowth of the Club of Rome politics of several decades ago being put into practice. It’s like a controlled die-off. With gasoline at $4/gallon with the prospect of $8 within seven or eight years, this is the straw that broke the camel’s back.

  490. Eleuthero5 March 30, 2013 at 11:37 pm #

    P4C said of Carol:
    “………………….the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.”
    “The Second Coming” by William Butler Yeats … one of my very favorite poems. You might like “The Conqueror Worm” by Poe … a similar “noir” theme.
    I can’t even take this bitch seriously because she’s a mandarin who’s calling everyone ELSE spoiled, deluded, etc.. Yet she has never divulged how it is that “she” has free time, money for travel, etc..
    I think “she” … is Asoka. My number one reason for that theory is that Adequatio (oh, these cowardly name changes) just isn’t keeping up with Asoka’s old volume but “Carol” certainly is.
    I look at her like a yappy chihuahua barking at a rotweiler. It’s comical. Her screeds never change character. They’re all shrill, factless diatribes.

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  494. BeingThere March 31, 2013 at 7:36 am #

    I’ve been listening to many interviews by alternative economists and although they might mention the word “shock” they seem resistant to mentioning Milton Friedman and the system he concocted to counter all the principles of FDR and Keynes that built the greatest middle class in history. Don’t forget it was he, that told Nixon to decouple the US currency from gold. By going for fiat oil based money he made globalism and the casino economy possible. All these fun entities like derivatives and CDo’s became possible.
    Now we are watching them turn FDR around and destroying the middle class like a bizarre experiment that they have to keep doing because it’s so effective and they just can’t stop. We are unable to exact pressure on them, as our political system is totally destroyed. The Shock of 9/11 made the destruction of the constitution possible, the shock of 2008 makes the bank holidays and holding savers hostage to the banks possible. As Milton Friedman noted we can do things that people would never agree to unless they were thrown off balance. That means war is important to use the shock doctrine on countries to privatize infrastructure and strip money and assets, as in the case of Iraq.
    When you don’t understand what the system is and don’t define it correctly as a counter system incorporated into our economy and the global economy, well there’s no fighting it either.
    Naomi Klein wrote the master-stroke “The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism “.
    She describes the Milton Friedman Chicago sch of Buisness as the fulcrum of an economic philosophy that acts more like an inverted communist system, extracting money from the citizenry and the state by the regime of privatization of all public domaine. If you CFNers haven’t read this book fully, you won’t get what’s happening and why it isn’t gonna stop. These people who were educated in this economic theory are all part of the think tanks like the Heritage Foundation who inform the govt and the media that people watch.
    Paul Craig Roberts points out that this isn’t free trade. By going to cheap labor abroad they have an uneven absolute advantage. There’s no free trade at all, but when he points it out he gets the same response I mentioned about Lou Dobbs. They’ll reply, “You’re an isolationist, You’re a protectionist”. The same kinds of tactics of Milton Friedman. Call people that don’t go along with you Nazis etc.
    Hey sounds like Carol Newquist doesn’t it?
    (name borrowed from male protagonist from “Little Murders” by Jules Pfeiffer.)
    E. I don’t think CN is Asoka, but he’s following the same model. Maybe this is how they support themselves.
    As Austin Powers would say, “She’s a man, baby”

  495. BeingThere March 31, 2013 at 8:03 am #

    Looks like the education of Chinese economists in the US has produced their own Miltie Friedman nightmare. Nobody in the world will enjoy the type of Capitalism we had before the silent coup of the late 70’s or the Europeans got through the Marshall Plan.
    So the Bank of China is in bed with “The Vampire Squid”?
    Indeed, and it’s worse than it looks. Wealthy elites rule the country like their personal fiefdom while touting the same neoliberal nostrums as their mentors in Washington and downtown Manhattan. The “free market” is the new god, while austerity, “reforms,” and privatization are the corollaries of the new state religion. Here’s an excerpt from an article titled “China’s new premier to enforce ‘painful’ market restructuring”

  496. philm March 31, 2013 at 8:56 am #