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The Greeks and Romans had one up on us: their gods and goddesses were not so easy to impersonate. Their gods and goddesses acted at a remove from everyday life, out of reach, except in the popular imagination. Two thousand years later, along comes Hollywood with an industry designed to manufacture gods and goddesses, and churns them out in its “dream factories” like so many floor lamps.

Movies, it turned out, with their close-up shots on the giant silver screen, were a much better vehicle for depicting human mythology than the creaky old stagecraft of the Christian church, with its limp and tedious liturgical hocus-pocus. America went cuckoo for movies in our insatiable drive to comprehend the human condition — or at least to see it represented artistically.

The stereotype of the Hollywood Producer has been vividly established for nearly a hundred years now: a vulgarian alpha male in an expensive suit working the casting couch in his office on the lot. The studios made not a few movies about this entitled, predatory stock character, even back in the day when their rule was absolute. He was as well known as Porky Pig. Harvey Weinstein was the apotheosis of this type.

Harvey Weinstein was in the goddess business, the way his ancestors were in the pants business or the pickle business. Women of a certain goddessy type came to him out of the cornfields, the cities, the slums, the backwaters of distant lands, and he transformed them into goddesses for the movie audiences. He was good at it.

For decades, it was as well-known in the movie business, as night follows day, that Harvey often behaved badly among the goddesses he created and trafficked in. His reputation among the ladies must have been something like a walking-talking roach motel, Hell-in-a-bathrobe, with rat poison on top. Had he the good looks of Errol Flynn, the decorum of James Mason, and the melancholy charm of Humphrey Bogart, he might have gotten away with it forever.

But he had the look of some wild Teutonic forest swine, a monster out of the Maurice Sendak Wild Things gallery, with his oversized head and that unfortunate six-day scruff of beard bristling over his hoggish jowels. He was a physical specimen of a villain that only his pet director, Quentin Tarantino, might have dreamed up. In body, he was the very essence of a slob. With all that money, you’d think he could have engaged the services of a personal trainer, a cosmetician, perhaps even a plastic surgeon to buff off the rough edges. But, perhaps, unlike everybody else in show business, he was comfortable being himself.

His antics were legend well before the recent official documentation of his evil deeds in The New York Times. It’s something of a wonder and a mystery that, over the years, more manufactured goddesses didn’t run shrieking from his clutches, or lodge a complaint with the proper authorities — but such were the blandishments of stardom, I guess, that they didn’t dare. You’d think a certain code would have been shared generously among the ladies around their pantheon: don’t ever let yourself be alone in a room, or even an elevator, with Harvey. If there was such a meme, it didn’t stick.

Paradoxically, this repulsive character, with his outrageously brutish temper to go along with his boorish approach to seduction, produced many of the truly excellent movies of the last quarter century: The English Patient, Shakespeare in Love, Pulp Fiction, Il Postino, Flirting With Disaster, Emma, Good Will Hunting, The Cider House Rules, Chocolat, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, Chicago, Cold Mountain, Bad Santa, The King’s Speech, The Artist, The Human Stain, Silver Linings Playbook, Finding Neverland, Fruitvale Station, August: Osage County, The Fighter, Lion, and some not yet released. Many of these won awards, including Best Picture, from the film academy that tossed him under the bus last week.

Harvey’s story is an old one: hubris. He was too intoxicated with his own role as goddess-maker to recognize the dangers of fooling around in his own workshop. Especially in these times of all-out gender warfare. The other gnomes, elves, manufactured gods and goddesses in the Hollywood workshop only piled onto him when they thought it was safe (for their careers) to do so, so shame on them and boo-hoo. They’re as gutless as the grifters in congress.

But remember, there’s nothing that Hollywood, and perhaps America itself (if that entity still exists as a stock character), loves better than a redemption tale and a comeback. Harvey might do some jail time. When he comes out, I doubt it will be as a born-again evangelical pastor. But, heck, these days you can make movies on your phone. Don’t be surprised if the old reprobate turns up again in show biz, like the demonic “Michael Myers” in that sturdy old chestnut Halloween.

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352 Responses to “In Memoriam: Harvey Weinstein”

  1. Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 9:45 am #

    Couldn’t agree more about Weinstein, except I’ll be surpriseed if he goes to prison. (Poor Anthony Weiner, convicted of a felony when he never realy cheated on his wife. So many around him are abusing young women; he sends a few dumb texts and he ruins his wife, un-elects a president and goes to jail. Not that I gfeel sorry for him.)

    Bu the real scandal in the Weinstein story is all the people, male and female, (probaby inculding former candidates for president) who knew all about his actions and ignored them. By doing this, they allowed him to abuse countless other young women. I htink that’s the real reason for all the outrage – they feel guilty.

    • Sean Coleman October 16, 2017 at 10:57 am #

      I wonder if all those people ‘knew’, or indeed if anyone knew. How would they know? Well, of course, if they were told at the time by someone whom they could trust to tell the truth. Do any of these Hollywood stars and wannabes trust each other? Do they tell the truth? I haven’t a clue. Well, whatever about that, I have heard some refer to “the rumours” and rumours are quite worthless.

      The other issue is the true nature of the thing that they knew about, or claimed to know about. I haven’t followed this story and was hoping that someone here had and could tell me the answer. When I say I haven’t followed it, I don’t mean that I haven’t read anything about it. In fact I have read a few bits and pieces in the newspapers but these articles were light on detail and tended to repeat the same few things that appeared in other, similar pieces. What I mean is that I don’t have an informed opinion such as you would have if you went about it in a more systematic way.

      Avatar told me the other day that he had made a confession. (I had been talking about Trump) but I have these reservations.

      1 An allegation made years after the event can’t be compared to a contemporaneous complaint.

      2 Rumours are worse than useless (see above).

      3 Rather than reinforcing the impression that he is guilty of criminal offences (as distinct from putting pressure on women) the numbers of women coming out with Weinstein stories smacks of witch hunt and hysteria. For example, London journalist and investigator Alexander Baron looked into the accusations against Bill Cosby and concluded that, while there may be some plausibility to the original accusation, he doesn’t believe a word of any of the others. He is a man whose judgement I am inclined to trust.

      I’d be grateful to hear from anyone here who has gone into this in any depth just so I know what he is likely to have done.

      • Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 11:06 am #

        I’m not the person who has gone into this in depth; hopefullly they will join in too because I’d like to hear.

        But it is not just rumors, since so many of those complaining were personally victims, or their kids/girlfriends/buddies were victims. I agree that rumors are pretty useless, but this went way beyond rumors. Heck, people were even talking about it at the Academy Awards and on 30 Rock. I’d say everybody who wanted to know knew. I’m sure that includes the Clintons (I can see why they might not want to talk about it) and the Obamas (they sent their daughter to work wth this guy!!??).

        • Sean Coleman October 17, 2017 at 11:44 am #

          This reply is not aimed at you personally, just using your reply as a hook to hang it on.

          Joking about him at the Academy Awards. Would they have tried this if he had been a murderer, say? Or a paedophile or a racist or cruel to cats? Or an alcoholic? (No if he was pathetic, desperate drunk but yes, probably, if he was a popular hell-raiser.)

          People knew. As I said above, this does not necessarily follow. They might have heard rumours but rumours are treacherous and often plain wrong. Indeed, it is quite possible that they did not know because there was nothing that bad to know. The Jimmy Savile case in Britain is probably the classic witch hunt of its genre. Unlike Weinstein there is very little evidence against him that he did anything, except for a relatively small number of unhinged accusations. So little that I don’t think Savile committed any crime. (I suppose when I say ‘very little’ this really means ‘none’.) Apart from the absence of evidence another remarkable thing about Savilisation is that the ‘number’ of accusations is so low against a man who was said to have spent his “every waking moment” planning his abuse and in the light of the mantra that the sheer number of accusations proves his guilt. (There is a compelling parallel with the ‘97% of scientists accept global warming’ claim which is repeated endlessly yet which turns into dust as soon as you dig into it.) Yet from reading the press and blogs you are given to understand that there is a mountain of evidence. It is extraordinary. And then again, Weinstein’s accusers maybe did not hear any rumours either, they just say they did, or imagine they did, or have just got carried away.

          As Volodya says below the time to make the accusation is right after it happens. To the police. Not mentioning it to your best friend. This would suggest that no rapes or serious sexual assaults were committed. However, Weinstein might clarify this point himself.

          So this story shows classic signs of a witch hunt. By the witches.

          However the bit which perhaps interests me most about the story is a suspicion that not all of these reported accusations are what they appear to be. As I say, I haven’t looked into it and this is just a hunch but it would not surprise me if some of the reported stories turn out to have been taken out of context or even were not made at all. If I were a betting man I’d risk a few bob if the odds were good.

          • GreenAlba October 19, 2017 at 8:19 pm #

            @Sean Coleman

            “There is a compelling parallel with the ‘97% of scientists accept global warming’ claim which is repeated endlessly yet which turns into dust as soon as you dig into it.”

            Perhaps you could provide some serious, peer-reviewed sources as references for your bizarre claim. That will help with forming a view on the credibility of your other claims.


          • GreenAlba October 19, 2017 at 8:24 pm #

            “The Jimmy Savile case in Britain is probably the classic witch hunt of its genre. Unlike Weinstein there is very little evidence against him that he did anything, except for a relatively small number of unhinged accusations.”

            Actually, don’t bother. Having read the above I feel quite sick. Jimmy Savile was a disgusting, evil, predatory paedophile, who even preyed on children with learning disabilities because it facilitated his abuse. There is no lack of evidence. Even his family don’t claim this. Your revolting claim is just part of the wholesale disregard for truth and decency which seems to be overwhelming your country. Shame on you.

          • Sean Coleman October 20, 2017 at 11:47 am #

            Green Alba

            Why leave it so late to reply? Are you afraid I might see your comment?

            Here is an article in the Guardian (of all places) by Richard Tol, who backs up my claim about the 97% figure. The article is written in a reasoned manner, although I don’t agree with his belief that global warming is substantially man-made. My own belief is based on reading about the ‘history’ of this scare, in the context of other scares. As for ‘peer review’ don’t make me laugh. This is a mantra that has become almost meaningless by now, largely due to the AGW insanity. The IPCC makes great show of its processes being ‘peer reviewed’ but as Tol points out it cannot even review them itself! Donna Laframboise demolishes that organization’s credibility in her excellent and well-researched book, The Delinquent Teenager.

            I am familiar with Richard Tol, by the way, from the Irish Economy weblog where he used to be a frequent contributor. His style is robust and often enjoyable but I think he shares too many of our modern mass delusions, as you do too.

            As for Jimmy Savile, please back up your absurd claim. Every time I have argued with anyone about this mega-witch hunt I ask them to present the evidence. They never do. Can you? (Even if you search hard for it you will not find it.)

            ‘Even his family don’t claim this.’

            I don’t believe this is true. Some of his family jumped on the band wagon but my understanding is that they were, and remain, shocked and appalled by the madness. For madness it is.

          • Sean Coleman October 20, 2017 at 11:48 am #

            Forgot the link:


        • Sean Coleman October 17, 2017 at 11:53 am #

          One further point. The use of clichés like “spending every waking moment planning his abuse” or the idiotic “He groomed a nation” (this from the Metropolitan Police no less) is all part of it. It is like their own form of baby talk. People might remember this next time they see words like ‘monster’ used by the so-called serious press.

          • Graycenphil October 17, 2017 at 12:43 pm #

            It seems like much more than a witch hunt in Weinstein’s case. Many people did know about it, the cops have a tape of him admitting it, he has admitted it, his wife has left him and he’s checked into “rehab”.

            The bigger crime remains all those who tolerated and enabled it for so long.

          • GreenAlba October 20, 2017 at 6:39 am #

            @Sean Coleman

            You seem to be desperately keen to be an apologist for wealthy and/or famous sexual predators. I wonder if this is some perverted version of the American Dream, where you don’t want to criticise powerful sexual predators because you wish you had the power to do what they do.

            It’s actually fascinating (in a terrifying way) to see the cognitive dissonance of the far right in the US. Their current main focus of hate is Muslims, yet many of them are really wedded in their heads to the idea of a woman’s testimony being worth half that of a man (if it’s worth listening to at all) which is adhered to by Muslim zealots in their own countries. Two peas from the same pod. Just like Stalinists and fascists last century.

          • Sean Coleman October 20, 2017 at 3:37 pm #


            I missed this comment of yours when I dropped in earlier.

            You affect a lofty intellectual disdain yet you clearly know very little about what you are talking about.

            Firstly, I am not an American. I was born in Sarf East London and have lived for the last thirty years in Ireland. I have never set foot in the US.

            Next, your language (“wealthy and/or famous sexual predators”) betrays a delusional view of the world. That your views are shared by very many does not excuse. They do you no credit. (That last cliché is one that you applied to me the last time we exchanged views. I don’t suppose you even remember. It was about Savile.) I recommend you have a look at the excellent website of the late Richard Webster, who considered modern witch hunts as being in direct descent from the virulent Puritanism of 17C England.

            I don’t (quite) share Webster’s analysis, who was an atheist after being brought up as (I think) a Methodist. In any event, he wrote what is probably the best account of a modern witch hunt, the one around ‘children’s’ homes in North Wales, The Secret of Bryn Estyn. He considered modern life to be a shared mass delusion, which is on similar lines to Christopher Booker (heard of him?), mentioned below. When you hear people talking about ‘sheer evil’ and ‘a conspiracy of the powerful’ it should ring alarm bells.

            “You wish you had the power to do what they do”

            Don’t be daft. I believe that indulging your fantasies is very dangerous spiritually. Christopher Booker, in his precocious 1969 book The Neophiliacs, which analyzes the rise of the Swinging Sixties in England, argues that it is the essence of evil. I don’t think I’d go that far but perhaps he has a point.

            “It’s actually fascinating (in a terrifying way) to see the cognitive dissonance of the far right in the US”

            It is ‘actually’ far more terrifying to witness the irrationality of what could be called the progressive consensus.

            Read Webster and Booker. Examine what is happening around you and you will notice that these witch hunts and shared delusions have certain elements in common. One of them is irrationality. (Webster argued – in his excellent review of Flat Earth News (on his weblog) – that the modern age is more susceptible to them because it believes it is immune to them.)

            Women’s testimony. This is more complex. My understanding is that recent changes in the law (in particular in relation to the admissibility of similar fact evidence) have been very worrying. There is also a similarly dangerous dilution of the standard of evidence in that it is common for defendants to be convicted on the word of one person. There have been many grotesque miscarriages of justice in recent years and God knows how many have gone unnoticed.

            A large part of the problem is ‘fake news’. It is a large issue but undeniable. I am reading a book by a Swedish philosopher at the moment, Alternativa Fakta, by Asa Wikforss (there is no English translation) which takes the conventional view: why do so many people resist reason and science? I have to say it is dull. So far she has gone to great lengths (simultaneously turgid and comic) to explain that knowledge does not equate with what one believes, as if this needs to be said. The interesting thing is that (so far) specific, challengeable facts are very thin on the ground.

            Which is rather like your own case. No, once again, spare me your windy rhetoric and go and check the facts. If you feel a resistance to this (and you surely do) then ask yourself, honestly, why that might be so.

            But you won’t, will you? You will forget you ever had this lesson and return in six months to repeat your inane (and blissfully un-self-aware) remarks.

          • Sean Coleman October 20, 2017 at 3:42 pm #

            I missed a bit. These witch hunts and delusions have shared characteristics. One is irrationality. Others include a refusal to admit criticism or to see the need to examine one’s beliefs, ad hominem and (last, but not least) deceit. Webster attributes the latter (which he saw in witch hunts at their hysterical height) to ‘good cause corruption’. I am convinced it is not confined to such exceptional circumstances but has become routine.

        • Sean Coleman October 17, 2017 at 12:46 pm #

          Having said the above here is a list of memories of Harvey:


          He doesn’t seem like the smooth and sophisticated type!

          One of them went to the police complaining that he grabbed her breast and returned with a wire to record him. It does not seem that anything came of it.

          A NYT article reports that “two company officials”, speaking anonymously, say that Weinstein made eight settlements with women for offences including “sexual harassment and unwanted physical contact”. No mention of rape.

          • Graycenphil October 17, 2017 at 2:49 pm #

            Yes, that’s the tape I referred to above. The cops wanted to arrest him, but Mr. Weinstein was smart enough to make a donation to the DA’s reelection fund. He was never charged. No reason why it couldn’t be reopened. Or the DA himself arrested. That’s why nothing came of it.

            Weinstein actually had a clause in his contract that allowed (or required) him to pay off any cases of sexual harrassment. Pretty much everyone around him did seem to be aware of his “issues”.

          • Sean Coleman October 18, 2017 at 6:36 am #

            There is an interesting article in the NYT from three days ago “For Weinstein, a Brush with the Police”.

            Ms Battilana has had bad luck. This poor little thing had made a previous allegation against a 70 year old man in Italy (but then refused to cooperate in the prosecution), it says, and then found herself at one of Berlusconi’s parties and giving evidence against him at his trial!”

            “Ms Bashford interviewed Ms Battilana at least four times, pressing her on her story, the officials said. During those meetings she disavowed the sworn statements she had made in the Berlusconi trial, as well as her affidavit about the previous sexual assault, they said.”

            And then she finds herself alone in a room with Harvey! The luck some people have! She said he touched her breast while they were discussing a lingerie assignment and whether they were surgically enhanced.

            The place she agreed to meet up with him the second time, to secretly record him, was ‘swarming’ with police. Don’t they have serious crime to investigate in NY? The cops’ wire failed but Ambra somehow cleared her thoughts to catch it all on her phone. Smart work.

            It also mentions the case of Dominique Strauss-Kahn, MD of the IMF, “where the investigation fell apart after prosecutors discovered evidence undermining the woman’s credibility.” I had forgotten about that one.

            It says that Weinstein paid her a sizeable sum. “In exchange, she made a legally binding promise to never speak of their encounter again.”

            But here she is, speaking of their encounter again, despite this legally binding promise:

            ‘”What happened to me really put my view of the world to the test,’ she said.”

            What is it they say? LOL LOL LOL!

          • Graycenphil October 18, 2017 at 8:31 am #

            I’ll never forget the DSK case. Just the image of him being dragged off the plane by the cops is priceless.

          • Sean Coleman October 18, 2017 at 12:23 pm #

            Dominique Strauss-Kahn’s accuser, Nafissatou Diallo, was an immigrant from Guinea.

            “Prosecutors said the case has been weakened by Diallo’s fabrications, including a compelling story she told them of having been gang-raped in her native Guinea. The widowed immigrant, who has a 15-year-old daughter, said she had embellished her life story to gain asylum in the US, and what prosecutors called inconsistencies in her account of her actions right after the attack were the result of a misunderstanding.”


          • Graycenphil October 18, 2017 at 5:20 pm #

            There’s no question she was bad, but so was he and there’s also no question that they had sex. The cops did everything right, and so did the DA, in that case. Justice and kharma were served, all around.

    • orbit7er October 16, 2017 at 11:34 am #

      Who cares?
      This should have been news for a day as the planet goes wild feeding wildfires, hurricanes, floods, melting icecaps and bleached coral.
      I am rather disappointed that James Kunstler despite his usual outstanding literary flourishes of the “goddess factory” wasted a blog on it. Meanwhile there has still been NO coverage of the Corporate Dems sellout increasing the Endless War budget by $80 billion in a vote of 89-8, more than Trump’s outrageous proposed increase of $54 Billion at the expense of the EPA, Railroads, Superfund cleanups, etc etc etc.
      The August New York Times has still only had 1 article on this epic backstabbing by the Corporate Democrats allegedly so concerned about ordinary people who will pay this bill:


      On the encouraging side, I attended a fantastic presentation by a group of young architects and planners who presented a brilliant plan to turn NYC’s NYPenn station only Rail system into a Regional Rail system to connect the whole NYC Metro region with through running trains from NY Penn Station to new Hubs in Secaucus, New Jersey, Port Morris in the Bronx and Sunnyside Yards in Queens.
      This would be achieved by converting planned boondoggles like a new Port Authority Bus Terminal in Manhattan, the world’s most expensive real estate to extending the #7 Subway Line to Secaucus and putting buses there where there is plenty of room. Other funding comes from scrapping the plan to tear down a block and a half of very expensive Manhattan Real Estate to add a huge Penn South Terminal station to nowhere.
      No doubt James Kunstler has had the pleasure of running the ratrace roulette wheel of random track assignments in NY Penn Station posted just 5 minutes before boarding causing repeated stampedes.
      By the simple expedient of terminating NO trains in NY Penn Station and making them run THROUGH NY Penn station to these new further hubs you can even have the astounding logic that all Eastbound trains are on 1 side of the station and Westbound trains on the other side!
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      • Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 1:51 pm #

        thank you Orbit7er. NYC, getting better all the time.

      • 100th Avatar October 16, 2017 at 7:47 pm #

        Yes, more importantly let’s talk about infrastructure spending in the elite playground of Manhattan. Need to get those poor workers in (can’t have them living there for goodness sake) cooking quinoa and fluffing pillows.

        F*** NY

        • Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 9:15 pm #

          Why such hostility? Of course, a grat many of them do live in the city. Others choose to live elsewhere, but commute in. Both are fine choices.

      • SunnyJohn45 October 16, 2017 at 10:47 pm #

        New York isn’t even close to having “the world’s most expensive real estate”: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/property/pictures/8892109/In-pictures-The-worlds-20-most-expensive-cities-to-buy-property.html?image=19.

      • Buck Stud October 17, 2017 at 1:40 am #

        You omitted this tidbit from the article:

        “But while the proposal outlines a hefty defense budget, whether the Pentagon gets the money will be determined by congressional appropriators, and Democrats have pledged to block major increases in military spending without a similar boost for domestic programs.”

      • windward October 17, 2017 at 3:02 pm #

        Well, he did mention the grifters in congress.

  2. Georges1202 October 16, 2017 at 9:46 am #


    Homeless turnstile-jumpers in Fun City do jail time. Rich slobs never see a cell. They have that reliable padding of high-priced mouthpieces. It’s the way the USA works. Or doesn’t work.

    • Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 10:00 am #

      There is a lot of truth to that. It’s better to be rich. But there is also a perception issue there too. An awful lot of poor people get away with cimes too, we just don’t hear about it. When Weinstein, Madoff, Simpson, Weiner or Hernandez gets caught committing a crime, we all read about it. Some of them go to jail; some don’t.

      Still, eneven justice is a big problem. What to do about it, I’m afraid, is an even bigger problem. There is no easy solution.

    • K-Dog October 16, 2017 at 10:16 am #

      I agree, Weinstein has the resources to pay off any who would take him to court. For the rest the statute of limitations is in effect so they will just have to be OK with being rich.

      Weinstein has resources, unlike the rest of us who are about to experience their shortage.

      From the link:

      a group of researchers who compiled data on its extraction, use, recycling and discard to estimate whether there is enough copper available to make a developed standard of living available to all the world’s people. The short answer is: no.

      An old link but this is an unpopular topic.

      • Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 10:23 am #

        You’re a bit off topic, but I’ll indulge you. For a more reasoned and balanced look, try Wikipedia.


        If that doesn’t put your mind at ease, spend a few minutes googling other reliable sources. We have enough copper for a long time.

        • K-Dog October 16, 2017 at 10:33 am #

          You are not the boss of me, Sorry to inform you.

          We have enough copper for a long time. Just not any for future generations, or enough to fuel the endless growth machine much longer.

          You are not the topic police Graycenphil. If you were, you would be here all by yourself. I know this weeks topic is Weinstein’s penis. Unlike you however, I don’t find his dick interesting.

          • Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 10:42 am #

            So quick to move to the personal, once I correct you. Sorry you are so sensitive; try not to show it, it’s unbecoming.

            We don’t have enough oil. Then when we do, Now we don’t have enough copper. There will always be a reason why one can imagine the future is bleak. So far, they’ve always been wrong.

            Your link, BTW, didn’t work. Assuming you were trying to connect to the Scientific American article, you basically took the quote it out of context. The rest of the article is much less pessimistic and offers one view of the future possibilities. Read all the way to the end.

          • elysianfield October 16, 2017 at 11:37 am #

            “Wrong, again. Wikipedia is pretty much the opposite of the government. It can, and is, edited by anyone and is closely monitored by many.

            There are some on this site that have the temerity to suggest that the Government pays trolls to obfuscate ON THIS SITE! Why would not the Government then pay trolls to amend any Wikipedia entry they find offensive?

          • Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 1:53 pm #

            They might well, but they can’t employ everybody. As soon as those trolls would falsely ammend something, others watching Wikepedia would correct it.

            As far as this site goes, don’t flatter yourselves.Nobody cares enough about it to hire trolls.

          • benr October 18, 2017 at 1:14 pm #

            @ANYONE WHO thinks there are not paid trolls hitting all sorts of sites possibly even this one.

            Operation Sock puppet.

            It got so out oot control on MSNBC they took that feature away and no one can post on their horribly skewed poorly written and often flat out wrong political hit pieces.

        • K-Dog October 16, 2017 at 10:41 am #


          “a more reasoned and balanced look, try Wikipedia.” – ha

          Jimmy Wales lets the deep state do whatever they want there. US government approved misinformation and bullshit and most of us here already know it.

          • Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 10:47 am #

            Wrong, again. Wikipedia is pretty much the opposite of the government. It can, and is, edited by anyone and is closely monitored by many.

            Facts are backed with sources and links. I rarely find errors on it. When I do, I correct them myself. Sometimes the corrections are challenged; if accurate they stand. It’s a pretty extraordinary resource.

            Nothing is perfect, but I’m not sure anything is better than Wiipedia.

          • K-Dog October 16, 2017 at 11:54 am #


            There! Links in raw form like my link to that junk science rag ‘Scientific American” don’t fail.

            You should not be so touchy. We know you don’t have normal emotions but if you ever really want to understand humor you have to relax.

          • Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 1:59 pm #

            K-dog, I’m glad I was able to help you figure out how to post a working link. But really, posting a link to site that is actually called “DesignedNews”, and thinking you should trust it??

            And, you’re wrong, yet again. I get a lot of laughs from this forum. At this point, it’s the main reason I’m still hanging around. I’m certainly not here for your wisdom. Sorry if I touched a nerve about you being over sensitive.

          • Sean Coleman October 17, 2017 at 12:00 pm #

            I don’t think Wikipedia needs to be infiltrated or controlled by the state because it operates self-censorship. An entry which does not conform strictly to current thinking in political correctness (and it is a rapidly shifting field) is a rarity.

          • GreenAlba October 20, 2017 at 7:12 am #

            @Sean Coleman

            “An entry which does not conform strictly to current thinking in political correctness (and it is a rapidly shifting field) is a rarity.”

            I think what you’re trying to say is that ‘entries that do not routinely reflect the biases and prejudices of Sean Coleman are a rarity’.

            One should never take the arguments of people who cite ‘political correctness’ at face value. it’s a catch-all insult to be used against people who don’t share one’s prejudices. Users of the term tend not to approve of others who prefer to treat their fellow humans with common decency.

            It does occasionally have validity, but it shares the fate of many phrases that originally meant something but are picked up and bandied around willy nilly by less well-meaning manipulators of language to fit their own world view.

      • messianicdruid October 16, 2017 at 10:59 am #

        If copper is going to become more valuable, perhaps priceless, imagine what silver will become, since it does everything copper does better and faster, as well as many things it cannot do.

        • Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 11:08 am #

          Good point. I’ll hang on to my silver for a while longer.

          • malthuss October 16, 2017 at 11:19 am #

            when? I sensed collapse in 2008. I was wrong.

          • K-Dog October 16, 2017 at 12:08 pm #


          • Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 3:02 pm #

            There’s a lot of wrong sensing going on around here. Don’t try to predict the peak or the collapse. Just invest wisely, prudently and diversely. For the long term.

        • K-Dog October 16, 2017 at 12:06 pm #

          It is a matter of it being cheap enough to support the happy happy joy joy random walk into our future that Graycenphil and others advocate, not if there will be enough. The issue is that with loss of cheap oil we have loss of cheap copper and with that the idea that we can simply change out old technology with new technology as we have for centuries collapses. Growth is getting in the way of endless substitution as the worlds limits are reached. New technology now gives diminishing returns and replacements cannot slake the worlds appetite for energy.

          Graycenphil and others understand this quite well and wish to suppress this consciouses, Why else would he be here?

          • K-Dog October 16, 2017 at 12:08 pm #


          • Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 2:03 pm #

            You’re right about only one thing, I understand very well. As you may have noticed, we haven’t lost cheap oil. (Do we have to go over the cheap oil thing one more time? You did not pay 17 cents a gallon for gas in the 70s.) We’re not losing cheap copper any time soon either.

          • K-Dog October 16, 2017 at 4:10 pm #

            Right about only one thing. Now you show us you can’t count.

            I think everyone here can accept that I did pay 17 cents a gallon for gas once. Why can’t you? Does that break troll rules somehow?

          • Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 4:56 pm #

            You thought gas was 17 cents in the seventies. Nobody on here agreed with you. Nobody anywhere will. You were wrong about the current price of gas too, which is even easier. Then you were wrong bout not being able to charge an electric car at home, or if you live in an apartment. You though insurance companies wouldn’t allow home chargers. Do you want me to go on?

          • K-Dog October 16, 2017 at 8:31 pm #

            Do you want me to go on?

            Absolutely, please continue calling me a liar.

            What year was when gas was 17 cents a gallon?

            And you get this result.

            I bought gas for 0.17cents a gallon in 1970 in Butler, PA>I payed .17 cents in 1974 in Oilton Oklahoma.

            I bought mine in 75 or 76 and the location was on Fletcher road on Bainbridge Island WA.

            Never claimed that you could not charge an electric at home. That would be ridiculous.

            Do you want me to go on?

            You did not address this:

            The issue is that with loss of cheap oil we have loss of cheap copper and with that the idea that we can simply change out old technology with new technology as we have for centuries collapses. Growth is getting in the way of endless substitution as the worlds limits are reached. New technology now gives diminishing returns and replacements cannot slake the worlds appetite for energy.

            Graycenphil and others understand this quite well and wish to suppress this consciousness, Why else would he be here?

            Why are you here Graycenphil?

          • Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 9:35 pm #

            First of all, “answers.com” is not a reliable source of information. If that is where you look for facts and data, I can understand why you are so confused. If you like, I will find some reliable sites that will show you the average price of gas over the years. None of them will show gas at 17 cents a gallon in the 1970s.

            Your whole mistaken point was that gas was 17 cents in the 70s (wrong) and is now over $3.00, going to $4.00, which you said proved that cheap oil is gone. I demonstrated that cheap oil is not gone, as can be seen by the current prices (well under $3.00), and the fact that it was not 17 cents in the 70s.
            When your facts turn out to be wrong, don’t you think you should reconsider your conclusions?

            Crude oil remains fairly low, and most indications are that it will stay there for the indefinite future. That, of course, is harder to say for sure. But past prices are very easy to say for sure. And 17 cents was not the price in the 70s.

            Actually, you did say that you couldn’t charge a car at home because the insurance companies would not allow you to put in a home charger. That is completely false. And ridiculous, as you say. I have no idea where you got that. You also said that a home charger was thousands of dollars. That was also incorrect. They start around $400. You also said you need a 240 volt line. Guess what – wrong too. Like I said, do you want me to go on?

            So, once again, I am addressing your cheap oil confusion. We have cheap oil. We have cheap copper. One day we may not, none of us knows for sure. But now we have cheap oil and copper. The one thing you got right is that we have changed out old technology for new technology. What you got wrong about that is the future. We will continue to embrace new technology. Why would it be any other way?

          • K-Dog October 17, 2017 at 12:46 am #

            Your whole mistaken point was that gas was 17 cents in the 70s

            That was never my point.

            I’d say we are having a misunderstanding but that would be foolish because you are deliberatively causing confusion. The idea that I could live through the seventies thinking that the regular price of gas was 17 cents is insulting. Gas wars frequently would bring the price below fifty cents a gallon but I as much admitted awe when I originally mentioned finding 17 cents a gallon. Which I only found once. The next time I bought gas it was 19 cents.

            You never did say why you are here.

          • Graycenphil October 17, 2017 at 7:41 am #

            Well then tell us what your point was. Why did yo usay gas was 17 cents in the 70’s, and now over $3.00 going to $4.00? If you want to explain the electric car misconceptions, I’ll listen to that too. But if you prefer to forget them, that’s fine.

            I’m here for a few reasons. I like Mr. Kunstler’s fiction and I like his commentary on current events. I’ve been puzzled by his dire predictions that almost always turn out wrong, but I may have figured that out, if he’s just using them as a literary device. If he really believes them, I remain puzzled. I find some of the opinions expressed here interesting, and a few of the posters are pretty astute. I’ve learned a few interesting things. All that said, when I see plainly inaccurate facts, I point them out. I’m also happy to discuss some of the theories, and debate some of the future scenarios. As you may have noticed, I have a much more optimistic view of the future than most here. Finally, I get a few laughs reading the responses.

            Why are you here?

          • Graycenphil October 18, 2017 at 7:05 pm #

            K-Dog? Cat got your tongue?

        • akmofo October 16, 2017 at 12:23 pm #

          With quantum computing coming online there won’t be any use for silver. There won’t be any computers, internet, online commerce, banks, bitcoin, nor anything encrypted and “secure” that can’t hacked. In other words, buy GOLD!

          • Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 3:04 pm #

            You may be right. But don’t you think silver will have a similar intrinsic value as gold?

          • messianicdruid October 16, 2017 at 6:17 pm #

            It [ silver ] will eventually reach parity with gold because we are burning through our silver just like we are burning oil. The gold is locked up and most is still around, while silver is going extinct.

            Gold is a sapling, silver is an acorn. Plant some.

          • Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 7:32 pm #

            I’ve heard predictions of silver’s great potential in the past, and they’ve ben mostly wrong. But since I already have some. I’ll hold on to it and see what happens. Check back in 10 years?

          • Doc Holliday October 16, 2017 at 9:35 pm #

            Silver is the best metalic thermoconductor. It will always have a place. Probably won’t displace my cast iron pans, however.

      • GreenAlba October 16, 2017 at 11:08 am #

        “Weinstein has the resources to pay off any who would take him to court. For the rest the statute of limitations is in effect so they will just have to be OK with being rich.”

        Apparently not. I’m not from your country but my understanding is that there have been changes to the statute of limitations following the Cosby affair, precisely so that other Cosbys won’t get away with it.

      • elysianfield October 16, 2017 at 11:33 am #

        “estimate whether there is enough copper available to make a developed standard of living available to all the world’s people. The short answer is: no.”

        You are correct…G&P did not seem to focus of the qualifier; “all the world’s people”…which could beg the requirement for all the world’s copper by a factor of 10. Lets begin by wiring up every hovel in India….

        • Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 2:04 pm #

          Of course I saw the qualifier. But I read the rest of the article too.

          • K-Dog October 16, 2017 at 4:16 pm #

            But that qualifier is very important to us. You see we have these things called souls. Something you would not know about. It matters if everyone can go to the party or not to us. All you care about is yourself and if you have enough for yourself. You do not care about others or you would have a concern about the future and if resources are sufficient. From your point of view as long as you get yours that is all that matters.

          • Graycenphil October 16, 2017 at 5:00 pm #

            Did you finish the article? You simply don’t understand the issue, again. The author goes on to say that if there is not enough copper, we will have to develop other products or technologies if we want everybody to have the same opportunities. That we will do, if (that’s a big if) we run out of copper. Do you understand his point now?

          • elysianfield October 17, 2017 at 11:34 am #

            “we will have to develop other products or technologies if we want everybody to have the same opportunities.. Do you understand his point now?


            His point is that vapor ware will solve the issue. He makes the point that there is not enough copper…but that Jesus, or Aliens, or SOMEONE will arrive at the nick of time to help us out…

          • Graycenphil October 17, 2017 at 2:56 pm #

            Or aluminum, or other metals, or other technologies that do not require as much copper that you and I aren’t aware of. I’m pretty sure the whaing captains didn’t imagine petroleum displacing whale oil when they found whales getting scarce, but it sure did.

            There were probably doomsday forums back then (maybe they called them salons) where folks predicted the end of indoor lighting because we were running out of whales. They were wrong too.

          • elysianfield October 17, 2017 at 7:40 pm #

            You know, they tried aluminum house wiring for indoor circuits back in the 70’s…can you guess why they do not use it now?

          • Graycenphil October 18, 2017 at 1:14 am #

            I do know that they used it. Many houses still have it. Aluminum wire is used in many aplications today, though not for most interior residential wiring. Done properly, it can be a good alternative to copper;in many cases it is preferred.

          • ozone October 18, 2017 at 9:32 am #

            Gracie, provider of fill,
            It’s this kind of bullshit “they’ll think of something” thinking that makes us very suspicious. It’s a call to sit on one’s ass and let “someone; anyone” take care of actual life-threatening problems… we’re not even talking about looming predicaments that have no solutions, only workarounds. We prefer to attempt preparing a bit of something for those who will face these *directly*. Don’t worry, be happy ain’t gonna get anything done, and it’s a call for infantile irresponsibility and dependence. But it’s definitely what your G&P moniker advocates.

            If you can’t get why that would make you untrustworthy, then you are only pretending to pay attention to what this blog is actually about: Personal responsibility and an awareness of how we interact with our locales and those who people them.

          • Graycenphil October 18, 2017 at 5:26 pm #

            Who said anyting about “sitting on one’s ass” or “let someone, anyone take care of actual…problems”? Besides you, that is?

            Now there are a lot of folks on here who say the world is pretty much doomed to the long emergency. I most definitely am saying that they are wrong, and point out why frequently.

            Suggesting that we are running out of copper and therfore none of us can look forward to as bright a future as our present is just one of those scenarios. I am happy to point out that a) we are probably not running out of copper and b) if we do, we have alternatives, among them aluminum.

    • Sean Coleman October 16, 2017 at 11:12 am #

      Maybe, but in this part of the world, at least, there is a widespread belief that the Powerful conspire to ‘prey’ on the poor, weak and vulnerable and to protect each other. (Many ordinary people, it seems, suspect that the deceased Tory Prime Minister, Ted Heath, was part of a paedophile ring which preyed on vulnerable children, sometimes killing them, and (of course) covering the whole thing up.) The Wienstein variation has a powerful, patriarchal conspiracy preying on (and breaking the spirit of) poor, weak and vulnerable female film stars.

  3. FincaInTheMountains October 16, 2017 at 9:47 am #

    Theology and Pornography – World Projects in the Political History of Art

    As we know, Icon Painting is a theology in colors, and art (painting), according to Giorgio Vasari, is a Theology in Colors of the Western Civilization, which arose when the Western (Roman) church abandoned Orthodoxy.


    And if you can often see the devils on the icons, but never the image of sexual intercourse, then the theology in colors of Western Civilization – the derivative of Renaissance painting – expresses its relationship with God through the image of sexual intercourse, not only by the Gnostics, but also by the Roman Catholic Church.

    To some extent, this is due to the Christian comparison of the relationship between Christ and the Church, God and Mankind, with the Bridegroom and Bride at the time of marriage, but to a much greater extent this is due to the fact that the Gnostics, who were splitting the Church for 1000 years and finally in 11 century have achieved their own, in their worship services are using ritual sex.

    That is why art in the West has never been a salon entertainment of the wives of rich husbands, as now in Russia. Art was originally and remains the source of power, the artist’s talent is a weapon in the capitalist war of all against all, genius is the nuclear weapon of this war, and genius pornography is its Super-Bomb.

    That is why the border between art and pornography in the West is conditional and everything is determined by aesthetics.

    All these circumstances as a result of the titanic efforts of Gelman, Enteo, Pussi Riots and Nyasha suddenly came to the forefront in Russia, and Russians still have to understand these problems.

    And since Christian art can not be an alternative to the West, and also because it is impossible to understand modern geopolitics without this knowledge, I, in order to create an alternative to Gelman, will allow myself to present three films that are actually theological writings of a religion dominating the West, very similar to Christianity, but using eroticism and even pornography as one of the colors in its theology:

    Western White Project:

    The Blue Lagoon 1980


    Western Black Project:

    Original Sin

    Western Red Project:

    Three (Survival Island)

  4. DrTomSchmidt October 16, 2017 at 9:50 am #

    The Cultural Collapse JHK has identified has happened while people like Harvey have hired and inspired its auteurs. There’s probably a connection there.

    • K-Dog October 16, 2017 at 9:55 am #

      Yes, it is called money.

      • DrTomSchmidt October 16, 2017 at 1:49 pm #

        Everything’s for sale, and nothing’s worth buying, to paraphrase a frequent saying here.

        • K-Dog October 17, 2017 at 12:48 am #

          But everybody wants more.

  5. venuspluto67 October 16, 2017 at 10:00 am #

    Show-biz is a garbage industry full of garbage people that turns out garbage product fit for diversionary entertainment at best. End of story.

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    • beantownbill. October 16, 2017 at 10:48 am #

      Movies are not unlike art, where only a handful of practioners are really brilliant and the rest forgettable; also like novelists. Or, as Theodore Sturgeon famously said, 90% of everything is crap.

      • malthuss October 16, 2017 at 11:22 am #

        Art is from the ground up. Sometimes.

        The BIG film studios care about $ and propaganda.

      • 100th Avatar October 16, 2017 at 7:48 pm #

        Like the populace of this “great” country.

    • SpeedyBB October 16, 2017 at 2:09 pm #

      Yes venuspluto67, that is certainly true. I was always amazed that the witty, erudite and well-seasoned Gore Vidal embraced the movies so rapturously. Perhaps it was because he was a famously unhappy man, the love of his life having been snuffed out on a Pacific atoll in WW II, and the silver screen thus offered an easy, dumb escape.

      His novels, such as ‘Myra Breckenridge’ and ‘Myron’ capture the nasty, humiliating, exploitative ways of the moguls very neatly (and infinitely funnily): L.B. Mayer getting a blowjob from a starlet under his desk while he carries on business is one such tableau.

      Hollywood historically is fueled by fear (see Altman’s ‘The Player’ for an excellent portrayal of that ambient atmosphere); at the moment the sex-panic must be approaching the newsworthiness of the wildfires up north.

  6. fred October 16, 2017 at 10:08 am #

    That would be Michael Myers for the “Halloween” franchise and Jason Voorhees would be the “Friday the 13th” franchise….just a little thingie.
    Otherwise, keep up the good work, Jim.

    • Elrond Hubbard October 16, 2017 at 11:15 am #

      Also, and not to pile on, it should be “In Memoriam.”

      I wouldn’t nitpick, except I can’t resist the fun irony that the Latin phrase is in the accusative case.

  7. ozone October 16, 2017 at 10:11 am #

    Wow! The Weinstein pseudopods spread and slither their way to many a hither and multiple yons.

    “[Lila] Feinberg was due to wear a Marchesa dress at the nuptials that had been custom-designed by Harvey Weinstein’s wife, Georgina Chapman, who this week announced she was leaving the movie mogul after more than 30 women came forward to accuse Weinstein of harassment, groping and – in more than a handful of instances – rape.

    Price was said to be close friends with Weinstein.

    Feinberg was awarded Araca Group’s National Graduate Playwriting Award for her play “Vertebrae,” and is also the creator and executive producer of “12 Parties,” an original series that was acquired by The Weinstein Company.

    She has also sold projects to Legendary Television and MTV.”

    *** I know this produces a reaction of WTF? as there’s no context. It’s only a bit of bait for this great story of the propositioning of none other than Philip K. Dick’s DAUGHTER! …Just amazing and ties everything up in a neat bow.


  8. shotho October 16, 2017 at 10:17 am #

    “creaky old stagecraft of the Christian Church, with its limp and tedious liturgical hocus-pocus.” Well, that’s one interpretation, but there are others. No need for theological discussions here.
    There are no ‘great’ movies, only limp and tedious expressions of a pop culture that is monstrous in its choke hold on a dying society.

    • beantownbill. October 16, 2017 at 10:55 am #

      But pop culture is a huge part of our lives, like it or not. A lot of movies excellently portrayed aspects of that culture, so I don’t believe the best of them were wastes of time and money.

      • akmofo October 16, 2017 at 1:39 pm #

        True. But also more than that:

        Many films are based on true stories and try to convey important truth. Most people would otherwise not be aware of this truth because most people simply don’t read books. Unfortunately, even after seeing such films, the reality and severity of the situation just goes over their head. It just doesn’t register through the prism of casual entertainment.

  9. jivefive99 October 16, 2017 at 10:25 am #

    Bad Santa is nowhere near a good movie. It only had to be funny, and the escalator scene was the only funny part about it.

    • seawolf77 October 16, 2017 at 11:07 am #

      What escalator scene?

    • hineshammer October 16, 2017 at 2:25 pm #

      Bad Santa was hilarious. To each his own I guess.

      • seawolf77 October 16, 2017 at 2:29 pm #

        “You ain’t gonna shit right for a week.” Willie Stokes

        • windward October 17, 2017 at 3:13 pm #

          I like this old line from the US Navy: “He didn’t know whether to shit, draw small stores or climb a tree.”

          • Q. Shtik October 17, 2017 at 9:23 pm #

            “He didn’t know whether to shit, draw small stores or climb a tree.” – windward


            Not having served in the Navy, your old line would require some explaining but it does resemble one of MY old favorites:

            “He didn’t know whether to shit or go blind so he closed one eye and farted.”

          • jmar98 October 18, 2017 at 10:15 pm #

            How about: Fuck ’em all–except for 6 and save them for sideboys.

  10. Zoltar October 16, 2017 at 10:26 am #

    “Paradoxically, this repulsive character, with his outrageously brutish temper to go along with his boorish approach to seduction, produced many of the truly excellent movies of the last quarter century.”

    To be sure, Weinstein is a swine, but many great creative figures have been and are atrocious human beings, as Peter Shaffer showed us in “Amadeus.” Which raises the disturbing possibility that this is no paradox.

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    • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2017 at 1:27 pm #

      Absolutely. Creativity has been found to be associated with a degree of being anti-social or psychopathology in a general or limited sense. I tried to teach my mother to play chess. She could hardly do it – didn’t have the killer instinct. Likewise, to create anything you have to “destroy” what already is. Brahma and Shiva work together, just like the very poor and the very rich. Both are against Vishnu the Preserver – the middle class. The so called French Revolution was nothing other than this.

  11. TravisB October 16, 2017 at 10:40 am #

    Jason is from Friday the 13th. Not Holloween. Just saying. I’ll try to still take this blog serious.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2017 at 1:29 pm #

      No, isn’t Friday the 13th, Freddy Kreuger? But like you, I do prefer Jason: he never hurries but he’s always where he needs to be. He seems to be embody Lao Tzu’s “The Way abides in non-action, yet nothing is left undone”. A lesson for us all, eh?

      • outsider October 17, 2017 at 12:43 pm #


        Jason Voorhees – Friday the 13th
        Michael Myers – Halloween
        Freddy Kreuger – Nightmare on Elm Street

        • Janos Skorenzy October 17, 2017 at 1:37 pm #

          Ah. I’ve been conflating Mike and Freddy. I have to review my horror.

    • 100th Avatar October 16, 2017 at 7:51 pm #

      Travis F… Fail

  12. Ol' Scratch October 16, 2017 at 10:42 am #

    But he had the look of some wild Teutonic forest swine, a monster out of the Maurice Sendak Wild Things gallery, with his oversized head and that unfortunate six-day scruff of beard bristling over his hoggish jowels.

    LOL!!! Worth the read for that description alone. All the more impressive that he got away with it for so long, me thinks. Good work Harvey! See you soon!

    • elysianfield October 16, 2017 at 11:25 am #


      “Harvey Weinstein was in the goddess business, the way his ancestors were in the pants business or the pickle business”


      • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2017 at 1:32 pm #

        He really is an example of Nazi Propaganda, straight out of central casting.

        • SpeedyBB October 16, 2017 at 2:14 pm #

          I had the same thought, Janos: a poster boy for Der Stürmer.

  13. seawolf77 October 16, 2017 at 10:43 am #

    He should have just been Larry Flynt. Why do guys like this always want to appear respectable? I’ll tell you why. The deception is a huge part of the high.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2017 at 1:39 pm #

      You’re conflating two different things. Firstly, the deception helps them to get their prey. If that was all it was, then at least it would be “clean” and Harvey just a wolf or lion stalking his prey, blending in with the tall grass. But if he enjoyed betraying his ladies or deflowering the innocent, then yes, it’s scumbaggery. And you’re right: he probably did.

  14. Walter B October 16, 2017 at 10:48 am #

    In our decayed society, every once an a while those who deal in financial fraud are forced to toss a Bernie Madoff out the door of the getaway car to give the angry crowd an object to take out their frustrations on. The same thing goes for the pedophiles and other assorted sexual predators that live in high places. Harvey got tossed out the door to distract the mindless minions and take the heat off of the Clintons, John Podesta and the army of deviates on which the light has been so recently shined onto. It works every time because the minions have been bred to need instant gratification at that same time they possess limited attention spans. Oh look, it’s a squirrel!

    • akmofo October 16, 2017 at 2:01 pm #

      I’ve said the same many times. But it’s all a distraction. Pretty much everything produced by the Jesuit media is in one way or another a distraction. A distraction to blind us to those recipients of the Cross – the Sun Tzu Vatican warriors. A distraction so their actions are never seen and never talked about, as though they never happened.

      • shotho October 16, 2017 at 4:31 pm #

        Vinestine is a Jesuit? Who would have known.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2017 at 2:16 pm #

      Quite so. What about the rest of the abusers? Are we to believe Harvey is the only one? It’s a game: he’s taking the fall for all of them so they can keep on keeping on. And everyone understands – otherwise the victims of the others would be coming forward. But they aren’t because they know that’s not how the game is played. Of course if they all did come forward, the game could be ended. But we lost that kind of unity a long time ago.

      • outsider October 17, 2017 at 12:51 pm #

        It’s interesting how the Weinstein scandal came to light right after the Las Vegas slaughter. With all the conspiracy theories growing around the hard-to-believe “official” story, it appears that some deflection was needed. Weinstein provided the perfect antidote.

  15. newworld October 16, 2017 at 10:51 am #

    Harvey should have modeled himself after the mogul in “Godfather”, but I suppose to stay in the graces of his people he had to have a respectable wife instead of some flyover country floozy.

    We on the right are a bit perplexed as to why this is even being made a story, other than that ho hum.

    Personally as a “sexist” I think as Bill Simmons in that women ruin everything so Hollywood is as ripe for a female take over as anything, so good luck to them.

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    • seawolf77 October 16, 2017 at 10:55 am #

      That mogul was based on Howard Hughes.

    • Walter B October 16, 2017 at 11:34 am #

      Notice that they threw the fat ugly guy to the crowd rather than some good looking abuser. The Pretty Boys are always spared. Perhaps there are those that do not mind being sexually abused as long as it is a Pretty Boy doing the abusing. Ask Bill Clinton, I think he would agree.

  16. akmofo October 16, 2017 at 10:54 am #

    The real Hollywood productions were recently staged in Vegas, Boston, etc. The production flopped. Too many people know the truth. Same crisis actors. Same staged photos. Same propaganda BS by the same Jesuit media and gov mafia.

    Weinstein is a diversion to the Vegas flop.

    I’m waiting for them to bring out the Vatican villains on charges pederasty, child trafficking, drug trafficking, staged terror, mass murder, genocide. How long do you figure I’ll have to wait?

    • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2017 at 2:18 pm #

      Weinstein is a Jesuit name you see. Akmo isn’t a crisis actor, he fucking believes because the pain of the Truth is too great for him. Thus he deserves our sympathy to a degree – but only a degree. Because the Truth has claims of its own…..

      • akmofo October 16, 2017 at 2:31 pm #

        Weinstein is expendable exactly because he isn’t their “tribe”. The Jesuits made him and they unmade him. You never see the power behind the muppet because they control what you see and don’t see.

    • hineshammer October 16, 2017 at 2:31 pm #

      I hear Alex Jones needs you back on set, akmofo

      • akmofo October 16, 2017 at 2:32 pm #

        That’s supposed to insult me?

        • Elrond Hubbard October 16, 2017 at 3:54 pm #

          Let’s just say it would speak well of you.

          • akmofo October 16, 2017 at 4:27 pm #

            How so?

    • akmofo October 16, 2017 at 2:53 pm #

      How many did they in the prior millennia? Exactly. So more like never.

  17. Anon1970 October 16, 2017 at 11:10 am #

    Too bad for Mr. Weinstein that he wasn’t born a generation earlier. Then, like the Kennedy brothers, Jack and Robert, he would have been able to commit his adultery in relative anonymity, away from the prying eyes of the press. Had the brothers not been gunned down while in office, they most likely would never have brought to justice in the death of Marilyn Monroe.

    • seawolf77 October 16, 2017 at 12:31 pm #

      Lyndon Johnson used to slam his hand down on the desk and scream “I’ve had more damn women by accident than the Kennedy’s have had on purpose.” His senate office was called the Harem. Funny we don’t hear about that. I guess visualizing JFK boinking MM or Jackie is more appealing than LBJ and Ladybird.

    • 100th Avatar October 16, 2017 at 7:54 pm #

      Is that what he did?

      If I was as stupid I’d incorporate anonymous in my handle tambien.

  18. pequiste October 16, 2017 at 11:12 am #

    Hooray for Hollyweird; where the affluent produce the effluent.


    And the vile slime Weinstein resembles nothing Teutonic plus why would you insult swine, Jim?

  19. janet October 16, 2017 at 11:16 am #

    “Especially in these times of all-out gender warfare“ —jhk

    Wanting to be treated with respect and dignity is not “gender warfare”

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    • RobH October 16, 2017 at 11:18 am #

      Quite right!

    • Walter B October 16, 2017 at 9:25 pm #

      Americans don’t treat ANYONE with respect and dignity, not even themselves. If you are suggesting that we should all be fed a line of crap about how we are all so special and wonderful, perhaps we should turn on Barney the Purple Dinosaur. He’ll give you all the special treatment you could ever need. If we white males can still function day to day after all of the demonizing and hate filled bullshit that is shoveled on us, well maybe coddling isn’t the answer.

  20. RobH October 16, 2017 at 11:17 am #

    “The other gnomes, elves, manufactured gods and goddesses in the Hollywood workshop only piled onto him when they thought it was safe (for their careers) to do so”

    Some behaviour is not considered acceptable now that previously was ignored, and it gives people more confidence to come forward. There seems to be a ‘turn’ in society

    In the UK Jimmy Saville, who was a staple of children’s TV in my youth, turned out to be not all he seemed, yet people had known at the time

    I know it is popular on this blog to be nostalgic for the 50s, but some things are certainly better now than they were then however people like to show up the odd exaggerated claim to be negative about

    • malthuss October 16, 2017 at 11:25 am #

      In the UK Jimmy Saville, who was a staple of children’s TV in my youth, turned out to be not all he seemed, yet people had known at the time

      Did he traffic in children? supply them to royals?

    • seawolf77 October 16, 2017 at 11:58 am #

      Another incident that David Icke turned out to be right about. Let’s face it, Santa Claus is probably the epitome of pedophiles. Remember the reverence we used to show Catholic priests? Now parents make sure their kids are never alone with them.

  21. malthuss October 16, 2017 at 11:40 am #

    The Cider House Rules,–The soft spoken abortionist.
    I didnt see the film.

  22. elysianfield October 16, 2017 at 11:49 am #

    Has the readership noticed that Janet and Thwack are becoming conspicuous due to their absence…and at the SAME TIME? The coverage of the Las Vegas shooting had seemed to run it’s course…many questions, ridiculous assertions…the ongoing investigation is telling us nothing.

    Might Thwack and Janet have been involved in an assignation in Vegas? Unfound rumors indicate they may have been involved in the shooting…blatant lies indicate they carried the shooters “luggage” into the upper floors of the hotel.

    I expect that time will tell.

    just speculatin’

    • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2017 at 2:20 pm #

      Yeah all those guns that he didn’t need had to be brought up there so we could be shown how horrible guns are. A fucking gun store as one “reporter” but it, sans the fucking.

      • seawolf77 October 17, 2017 at 10:37 am #

        The #1 reason guns are better than women: You can buy a silencer for a gun.

        • outsider October 17, 2017 at 1:01 pm #

          And whatever happened to Jesus Campos?

          • elysianfield October 18, 2017 at 4:40 pm #

            …Jesus has left the building….

        • benr October 18, 2017 at 1:33 pm #

          You mean a suppressor there is no such thing as a silencer.

          • elysianfield October 18, 2017 at 4:43 pm #

            …you say suppressor,
            I say silencer…

            you say semi-automatic
            …I say automatic.

            Lets call the whole thing off.

            You do know, Ben, that I, at one time, owned several silencer/suppressors? Worthless goddamn things….

      • GreenAlba October 20, 2017 at 8:28 am #

        “Yeah all those guns that he didn’t need had to be brought up there so we could be shown how horrible guns are.”

        Why would anyone need to be shown how horrible guns are, unless they were wilfully stupid? Almost 100 Americans are killed by guns every day, but a whole lot of people prefer to worry about the infinitesimal chance they might be attacked by an Islamist.

    • malthuss October 16, 2017 at 6:55 pm #

      Has the readership noticed that Janet and Thwack are becoming conspicuous due to their absence…and at the SAME TIME?

      The coverage of the Las Vegas shooting had seemed to run it’s course…many questions, ridiculous assertions…the ongoing investigation is telling us nothing.
      Thanks again. Its Harveys time to shine [not].
      15 weeks of [in]famy instead of 15 minutes of fame.

  23. JohnAZ October 16, 2017 at 11:58 am #

    He seems huge, but Weinstein is a small cog in a huge mechanism that is controlling America now. Take your pick who the supreme leader is. Drugs, pedophilia, human trafficking, prostitution are age old professions that have become computerized and internationalized over the last thirty or so years. Weinstein is one soldier in the army of miscreants that have infected the world. The US is just one area of the army. DC and Hollywood are two infection sites. Wherever money is controlled, look for the signs of infection. This is apolitical! Both sides of the aisle are infected. If the full impact of this is revealed somehow, many many heads will roll. Why do you think the Deep State hates the Trump minions so much and want to destroy them as fast as possible. Why Trump, because he knows the ins and outs of this band of slime.

    • seawolf77 October 16, 2017 at 12:12 pm #

      That is the meme. I have yet to see anything to prove it’s true. What I have seen is him pulling off the swamp sluice refuse after he goes swimming in it. “Fake news, it’s fake news.” Anything else you’d like me to believe?

    • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2017 at 2:23 pm #

      Yeah maybe, hopefully. But in fact Trump may be too close – used to talk about his good friend Epstein. If he so much as put his hand on a 16 yr old girl’s knee one time, they own him. He couldn’t be that bad or they’d have destroyed him by now. But they may well have some little thing on him. Even the above would be enough I today’s climate.

  24. FincaInTheMountains October 16, 2017 at 12:20 pm #

    The coverage of the Las Vegas shooting had seemed to run its course… == elysian

    The intelligence agencies that are loyal to the Office of the President must be well aware of the perpetrators who committed this terrible crime – a least on the execution level – and while Federal law enforcement still resists, an Active Measures (in Russian Aktivnie Meropriyatia are being applied to technicians.

    That kind of shit can’t go unanswered.

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  25. erik October 16, 2017 at 12:26 pm #

    Thing is: H.W. started out doing this shit when he was in his twenties and thirties. Back then he was probably not so physically repulsive to the sort of young women he prefers to prey on.
    As was said: “Man needs to know his limitations”. At 65, bloated, bewhiskered, and gross, he would have been a nightmare vision to a 22 year old ingenue. His critical failure to “have the gift to see ourselves as others see us” was a big mistake. For a young woman to be vulgarly hit on by a guy within her “plausibility window” may be something she could pass off, but when it’s the “creature from the black lagoon” it’s another matter.
    He’ll probably escape jail due to time limitations and lack of forensic evidence in the case of alleged rapes, but his fall from grace will be total. In a way, his punishment may be worse than jail. He will probably keep enough money to live out his days in material comfort, be he’ll be the man without a country.

    • Q. Shtik October 16, 2017 at 5:16 pm #

      the “creature from the black lagoon” – erik


      LMAO !

    • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2017 at 6:41 pm #

      Nonsense. The Tribe never abandons one who doesn’t betray them. Forgiven? Doesn’t apply. He got caught and now he serves by taking the fall for all of them.

      Note: If he abused his brother as claimed, then that’s something else entirely. As is perhaps preying on Jewish women – not sure how they see that. They may think that anyone who shows knows what they’re getting into.

      • outsider October 17, 2017 at 1:07 pm #

        Just as Bernie Madoff took the fall for all the financial crime on Wall Street?

        • Janos Skorenzy October 17, 2017 at 6:48 pm #

          He preyed on Jews – a big no, no. Maybe Ken Lay was a fall guy for Wall Street. Certainly nothing changed.

    • benr October 18, 2017 at 1:39 pm #

      Nonsense he will just go to Thailand, the PI or frequent the Viking club with El Rushbo.

  26. volodya October 16, 2017 at 12:26 pm #

    They call Weinstein a “powerful” Hollywood producer. Powerful? To paraphrase Uncle Joe, how many divisions does Harvey have?

    Harvey may have had “power” over nit-wit actresses. That’s not much “power”. He may have the “power” to entrance people at the cinema on a Saturday night. That’s not much “power” either. That’s just entertainment folks, a bit of frivolity and diversion. Show biz isn’t serious business. You will die without food and water. You won’t die if the movie-house shuts down.

    And all this boo-hooing about what Harvey did is off-putting. You get them coming out by the dozen and making serious accusations decades after the event in question. At this point, what are the cops supposed to do about it? How is a story corroborated after all this time?

    Having said that, rape, next to murder, is in my opinion, the most serious crime. The way that I see it, without the obvious and credible and diligent intervention of law enforcement, rape is an offense that merits the most dire revenge-taking by male members of the woman’s family. Law enforcement must not only do their job they must be SEEN to be doing their job. Or else.

    And so, if all these women were raped, why on earth didn’t they call the cops right away? Why wasn’t Harvey in jail, cheek-by-jowl with America’s most dangerous desperados? Why didn’t Harvey’s accusers immediately tell their fathers or brothers or other male relatives? Why wasn’t Harvey scared shit-less? Why wasn’t Harvey in hiding? Why was Harvey walking around in the open for all these years, smiling and laughing and wining and dining and making his millions? In any credible country with men worthy of being called men, if he wasn’t rotting in prison, Harvey should have been making himself extremely scarce. Nobody should have been hearing a peep from Harvey. Harvey shouldn’t have been showing his face. At best, Harvey should have spent his life running a grocery store in a remote desert town. Right now, Harvey should be long, long forgotten, a foot-note to movie-making history. This is how it should have been.

    Has America become so flaccid that the men-folk can’t protect the women-folk from Harvey-like predators? This is a break-down of the most serious order. A lack of moral fiber is what this is.

    Hollywood was allowed to become a “wretched hive of scum and villainy” (Tm Ben Kenobi). Everyone knew about that place ever since Arthur Freed showed Shirley Temple his dink. That Hollywood should lecture the rest of the country is a joke. That Hollywood is still in business is an indictment.

    • seawolf77 October 16, 2017 at 12:37 pm #

      Why you ask? The same reason the 8 year old girl gets when she tries to drop a dime on her uncle.There’s two sides to every story. Go back and look at the video of Shirley Temple and “The Good Ship Lolly Pop.” There’s no way that gets made to day. Here an 8 year old girl is passed around between a bunch of old white men, eating chocolate cake and drinking lemonade. She even smears some of the chocolate on her face.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 16, 2017 at 12:38 pm #

      how many divisions does Harvey have?

      Art was originally and remains the source of power, the artist’s talent is a weapon in the capitalist war of all against all, genius is the nuclear weapon of this war, and genius pornography is its Super-Bomb.

    • njguy73 October 16, 2017 at 3:14 pm #

      Yes, America is that flaccid. And look at our college campuses. One in four women assualted? Why are father’s not stomping out the guts of administrators? Or simply having their daughters go to all-women colleges, or having them simply do online learning? The only consequence that matters is making predatory institutions lose money big-time.

      • seawolf77 October 17, 2017 at 10:36 am #

        We are limp dicks. Flaccid. Languid. Weak. Impotent. Lazy.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2017 at 6:47 pm #

      Entertainment shapes who we are, exactly as Mr Kunstler said. It is a terrible power, the power to create – and destroy. As you know, they have chosen the lower path for a long time now. And of course the desire for fame and riches is horrendously strong. People would do anything to get into the movies – and that’s the problem.

      Men who tried to protect their women folk over in England got arrested for racism and being anti-Muslim. One pimped out girl recalls how she was with two Muslims one night as they were taking her to meet a customer. The police arrested her for public intoxication – and let the two men go. That’s how bad it’s gotten.

      The only part of your post I agree with is the lack of responsibility on the part of the stars. They want to be stars and are willing to endure almost anything to get in and say in. Now they come forward – after he’s been brought down. What about the rest of them? Why isn’t anyone coming forward about other predators? Same dynamic: afraid to lose what they have.

    • malthuss October 16, 2017 at 7:00 pm #

      Because they sold their souls.
      You think those actresses didnt know what was coming [no pun]?

      I was at a party. A player told me that of the 200 name male actors
      he had worked with, they were all gay, bi or gay for pay.
      He told me of walking in on 2 male names, they were having sex in a trailer on the lot. The more famous getting the less famous.

    • Buck Stud October 17, 2017 at 1:24 am #

      Isn’t your post above just a long-winded screed inferring that “all these women” were pleading no while moaning yes?

    • Sean Coleman October 17, 2017 at 11:11 am #

      Good post.

  27. Jigplate October 16, 2017 at 1:31 pm #

    looking at the recent Weinstein dog pile , I cant help but think about Claude Rains as Captain Renault when he raids Rick’s cafe :
    “I’m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here! “

    • seawolf77 October 16, 2017 at 2:32 pm #

      “I came here for the waters.” Rick
      “But there are no waters in Casablanca.” Nazi Interrogator
      “Well, I was misinformed.” Rick

      • 100th Avatar October 16, 2017 at 7:58 pm #

        Casablanca sits on the Atlantic.

        • seawolf77 October 17, 2017 at 10:33 am #

          And Casablanca has 4 “a’s” and Atlantic has 2 “a’s”, which is twice as many “a’s.”

          • 100th Avatar October 17, 2017 at 2:53 pm #

            Many hammams in Casablanca. Some of the finest under mosques.

            As always seadolt, you read from the script and not reality.

          • seawolf77 October 17, 2017 at 4:08 pm #

            Who cares? It was a great line in a great movie. You think anybody gives a shit it sits on the Atlantic. You missed the point. Again. As always, go back to as always.

          • 100th Avatar October 17, 2017 at 9:30 pm #

            Actually it is a notoriously fickle poor line.

            A thinking person cares.

            But you’re seadolt, you’re a consumer of fiction.

            An imbecile

          • seawolf77 October 18, 2017 at 9:50 am #

            You demonstrate your thoughtfulness with every keystroke.

  28. seawolf77 October 16, 2017 at 3:38 pm #

    The scumbag has left the building!

  29. Ishabaka October 16, 2017 at 4:09 pm #

    Harvey Weinstein, Bill Clinton, Bill Cosby, Woody Allen, Anthony Weiner, Roman Polanski – what do they have in common?

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    • elysianfield October 16, 2017 at 4:47 pm #

      “what do they have in common?”

      They get laid a lot?

    • malthuss October 16, 2017 at 7:01 pm #

      MDs today are dot indian.

    • seawolf77 October 17, 2017 at 10:32 am #

      They get a lot of woodies.

  30. aibohphobia October 16, 2017 at 4:36 pm #

    I can only think that Weinstein has done something to step out of line. What he did was no more egregious than, just for example, what Arnold Schwartzenegger did throughout his early acting career. Yet we do not hear any talk of taking Arnold to court.

    It was a LOT more egregious than what Bill Cosby did–But Bill went to court first because he had the audacity to tell young Black Men to take responsibility for their own lives. That threatened the continued infantilization and dependency of poor Blacks on the so-called Black Leaders–So of course, Cosby had to be taken down. The alternative would have been vast numbers of young Black men and women becoming business owners, doctors, lawyers, accountants and the like, and that would be unacceptable…

    • malthuss October 16, 2017 at 7:02 pm #

      I can only think that Weinstein has done something to step out of line
      OR that his downfall makes a lot of money for whoever set it in motion.

  31. wm5135 October 16, 2017 at 4:37 pm #


    “Has America become so flaccid that the men-folk can’t protect the women-folk from Harvey-like predators? This is a break-down of the most serious order. A lack of moral fiber is what this is.”

    V – at the level of 15 to 17 years old our American youth are so debased that most men of my age (66) know about as much about the antics going on in American high schools as they know about Quantum Mechanics.

    Unless you are aware of the streaming apps that these kids have on their phones and the amorality they have been spoon fed on TV their whole lives you can not fathom the situation. Yes the American father is in most cases incapable of protecting his daughter, his daughter is in consumer mode and is consuming a poisonous culture.

    We have prostituted our future.
    We have no honor.
    (I apologize for being so strident.)wm

    • elysianfield October 16, 2017 at 4:49 pm #

      Being strident in the face of outrage is no vice….

    • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2017 at 6:53 pm #

      Are we willing to admit that the old fashioned censors were right? Because that’s what it would take. A family can’t fight this along – not without being hermits out in the woods or part of similar remote community. The pornographers have to be fought – and that means taking on the same people who control Hollywood and that means taking on the Bankers. All the same people. And to do that means admitting we fought on the wrong side during WW2.

      So people don’t know what they’re asking. Those that do soon become very quiet and give up for the most part. We’ve simply made too many mistakes for too long.

  32. tucsonspur October 16, 2017 at 4:38 pm #

    Here’s a movie, screenplay in part by Quentin Tarantino, that decades ago dealt with the usual shallow, American preoccupations with sex, violence, drugs and money. What’s changed?

    But the following scene, which brings race into the mix, is certainly worth watching and almost saves the movie. The first five minutes or so “sets the stage” for Dennis Hopper’s infuriating and incisive final words. Don’t miss it.


    • elysianfield October 16, 2017 at 4:52 pm #

      “True Romance” is in my “top 20 films” of all time….

      • tucsonspur October 16, 2017 at 5:26 pm #

        Wow, pretty good rating!

      • beantownbill. October 16, 2017 at 11:49 pm #

        I loved that movie. And that scene with Hopper and Walken is a classic. I thought the acting there was terrific. – two pros at the top of their game. Also look for the small Brad Pitt role.

        • tucsonspur October 17, 2017 at 2:18 am #

          The way Clifford goes out, knowing what’s coming, smoking that last cigarette with nerve, defiance, and dignity, while he deeply injects the insult.

      • seawolf77 October 17, 2017 at 10:31 am #

        “Did you know that Sicilians were spawned by niggers?” Tarantino said when he wrote it that there was no retort to this. It completely emasculated.

  33. FincaInTheMountains October 16, 2017 at 4:41 pm #

    Well, it has begun!

    The Iraqi (Sunnite) army has captured the city of Kirkuk, which the Kurds consider to be the center, or rather the heart of historic Kurdistan, just as the Serbs consider Kosovo to be the heart of Serbia with a lightning and therefore well-prepared blow.

    But besides this, Kirkuk is the heart of the oil field, in which the oil reserves exceed the oil reserves of Saudi Arabia.

    But this is not the end, but the beginning, since without this oil, Kurdistan is doomed to unproductive vegetation, and with this oil it will very quickly turn into the Great Kurdistan, which will dismember Turkey, tear off a couple of provinces from Iran and Syria, and remind the new crusaders, that their predecessors were expelled from the Middle East by the Kurd Saladin.

    I think Erdogan’s talkativeness in Ukraine and one of the reasons for Trump’s refusal to certify the agreement with Iran was the premonition of this movement of the Iraqi army, obviously prepared in deep secrecy.


  34. tucsonspur October 16, 2017 at 5:20 pm #

    Another take on “rape”:


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    • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2017 at 6:57 pm #

      Yes, yes – the look on the interviewer’s face says it all. O Nanak! There is nothing women hate more the having to take responsibility. They are utterly loathe to give up the victim card. Thus they are allied with Blacks who feel the same – a marriage made in Hell itself.

  35. tucsonspur October 16, 2017 at 5:37 pm #

    Emma decides to go “to the mattresses”: Yes, it’s war.


  36. dolph9 October 16, 2017 at 5:42 pm #

    Why is nobody talking about the porn producers?

    Next to them the hollywood guys are models of moral decency.

    • 100th Avatar October 16, 2017 at 8:09 pm #

      I dunno, maybe because gobbling a few hogs is in the job description.

      You’re a dim one.
      Very dim.

      • elysianfield October 18, 2017 at 8:06 pm #

        “gobbling a few hogs”

        And they said romance was dead!

    • Sean Coleman October 17, 2017 at 12:08 pm #

      I agree.

    • seawolf77 October 17, 2017 at 1:05 pm #

      The same reason people donate money to stop animal cruelty but could care less about the millions of people America has killed for an assortment of dubious reasons, from dominos to babies in incubators to mushrooms clouds. Crap, crap, crap.

  37. FincaInTheMountains October 16, 2017 at 5:53 pm #

    Curiously, the Strugatsky brothers almost identically described the current situation in Kirkuk in the “Inhabited Island”:

    … The Honti Patriotic League screamed in horror to the whole world that these bandits, these usurpers, these so-called Unknown Fathers, took advantage of the vile provocation of their hirelings in the face of the notorious Huntian Unity of Justice, and are now concentrating their armored hordes on the borders of the long-suffering Honty. In turn, the Honiian Union of Justice, the bones of the Honiant Patriots, these paid agents of the Unknown Fathers, in the last words and in detail told how superior forces supplanted depleted by previous fighting units across the border and did not allow them to return back, which circumstance served the pretext for the Unknown Fathers to the barbarian invasion, which should be expected from the minute to the minute.

    Both the League and Unia, with almost identical expressions, considered it their duty to warn the arrogant aggressor that the retaliatory blow would be devastating and vaguely hinted at some nuclear traps.

    Pandey Radio described the situation in very calm tones and announced without embarrassment that Pandey would arrange any development of this conflict. Private radio stations Honti and Pandey entertained listeners with cheerful music and scabrous quizzes, and both government radio stations of Unknown Fathers continuously broadcast reports from Hate meetings interspersed with military marches …

    Arkady and Boris Strugatsky, Inhabited Island, 1969

    • BackRowHeckler October 16, 2017 at 8:53 pm #

      What the hell are you talking about?

      • FincaInTheMountains October 17, 2017 at 12:56 am #

        The Middle East Survival Championship between the Russian Federation and the USA is 2:0 in favor of the Russian Federation.

      • FincaInTheMountains October 17, 2017 at 12:59 am #

        East is a delicate matter, baby.

        • elysianfield October 17, 2017 at 11:56 am #

          Well, the East does, indeed, require a delicate hand. If I were in the decision loop I would opine that we vacate the Middle East entirely, and leave the oil and the internecine issues to the mercies of Mother Russia.

          The middle East is Chechnya writ large…Afghanistan without the joy…what could possibly go wrong?

          Take the Middle East,


          • akmofo October 17, 2017 at 2:59 pm #

            The Middle East is changing, and changing fast. In Israel, minority women are joining the work force and minority youth are embracing modernity and science. This vector of light will spread to the rest of the Middle East. (https://youtu.be/JWd2K9Rm8eM) There is huge potential for Western companies there, if they decide to compete. So far only China and France have entered this competition. The US mainly sells weapons and corruption in the form of no-bid contracts to corporations such as Bechtel, Halliburton, etc.

            Instead of surrounding Russia with military bases, surround Russia with trade and trade routes. Let the Stalinist imperialists rot with their fantasies of military domination and backwardness.

  38. Pucker October 16, 2017 at 8:00 pm #

    A robot keeps asking me to stay at the El Rancho Inn. In the future dystopia you’ll be able to book a Sexbot with your room. Best Western Plus El Rancho Inn ·
    1100 El Camino Real
    Millbrae, CA 94030
    · USA

    • elysianfield October 17, 2017 at 11:58 am #


      Ask them if they have a 34th floor, one facing the strip….

  39. 100th Avatar October 16, 2017 at 8:08 pm #

    Big screen actors are whores.
    They sell all of themselves: their emotions, their looks, their privacy, their bodies, their minds to the industry.

    They want fame and fortune.
    Celebrity at any cost.

    Not in it for the art.
    They are attention whores.

    Superficial. Shallow.
    Someone treated them as such.

    His actions are not the most important crimes.
    The shame isn’t his in his actions.
    A filthy slob preying on sycophantic grovelers.

    The crime is the cover-up.
    The scandal.
    By the media.
    By the elites and politicians.

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    • Pucker October 16, 2017 at 9:30 pm #

      You can say that again!

    • The Articulate Infant October 16, 2017 at 9:48 pm #

      A most accurate summation 100th.
      Now, someone (Seawolf?) mentioned LBJ – is it true that LBJ had an ‘elephantine’ penis, that he sometimes showed people? Is it true that he also rooted (old Australian slang for sex) Senators sons? And sometimes also their wives?
      JHK described the Weinsteins physical features as a ‘Teutonic forest swine’, I can’t top that, but here’s some more old Australian slang one could use to describe him: got a head like a robbers dog.
      I look forward to onehunglo’s take on this weeks topic.

      • seawolf77 October 17, 2017 at 1:08 pm #

        Lyndon Johnson was always eager to let those around him know that he had an unusually large penis. Reviewing a biography of Johnson in the New York Review of Books, historian Marshall Frady noted:

        He early became fabled for a Rabelaisian earthiness, urinating in the parking lot of the House Office Building as the urge took him; if a colleague came into a Capitol bathroom as he was finishing at the urinal there, he would sometimes swing around still holding his member, which he liked to call “Jumbo,” hooting once, “Have you ever seen anything as big as this?,” and shaking it in almost a brandishing manner as he began discoursing about some pending legislation. At the same time, he would oblige aides to take dictation standing in the door of his office bathroom while he went about emptying his bowels, as if in some alpha-male ritual assertion of his primacy. Even on the floors of the House and Senate, he would extravagantly rummage away at his groin, sometimes reaching his hand through a pocket and leaning with half-lifted leg for more thorough access.

      • 100th Avatar October 17, 2017 at 1:15 pm #

        LBJ was nothing more than poor white trash.

      • capt spaulding October 17, 2017 at 2:37 pm #

        I await his opinion as breathlessly as you do, In the meantime, keep licking his balls.

        • The Articulate Infant October 17, 2017 at 8:57 pm #

          Irascible bastard, ain’t ya Captn’ I mean, even for you. Oh, good captain, I do wonder about you, truly I do. What belies the pointless anger? Budding pop psychologist that I am, given the puerile nature of some of your poorly, (dare I say it? I shall) articulated aspersions on the character of both myself & onehunglo, I can’t but help but deduce the causes of your irascibility may be sexual in nature? Perhaps a trip to a house of assignation and an encounter with a young lady with a mouthful of honey, may induce you to a more agreeable manner.
          But, hey, captn, if you can’t manage that, then hit the YouTube for Slint’s ‘Spiderland’ album. The album closer, a masterpiece of sublime existential terror, ‘Good Morning, Captain’ It’s all you Captn, all you. To the proverbial T. Also, ‘Nosferatu’ & ‘Don, a man’ When the collapse comes, I shall miss you Captn, forsooth, I shall!
          Now, I turn the comments section to that ever illustrious bearer of eastern wisdom & insight – onehunglo

  40. Pucker October 16, 2017 at 9:29 pm #

    In the future dystopia, MSM news and blogs will be written by C..IA-programmed algorithm robots. People in the “Meat Space” who question the “News” generated by the Bots will be labeled “Fruitcakes”, “Nuts”, and “Conspiracy Theorists”.

    • akmofo October 16, 2017 at 9:54 pm #

      And Alex Jones production staff. The future is here.

  41. 100th Avatar October 16, 2017 at 9:59 pm #

    “The other gnomes, elves, manufactured gods and goddesses in the Hollywood workshop only piled onto him when they thought it was safe (for their careers) to do so, so shame on them and boo-hoo. They’re as gutless as the grifters in congress”

    Precisely! And why?
    Because now being silent will only hurt their careers when 5 minutes ago it sustained them.

    Nevertheless, they’re still using old Harv for the their benefit.

  42. Pucker October 17, 2017 at 12:02 am #

    In the future dystopia, the robot algorithms will attempt to program humans in the “Meat Space”. The robots will have to figure out ways to get the humans in the “Meat Space” to do what they want them to do until the robots can entirely replace humans.

  43. Buck Stud October 17, 2017 at 1:13 am #

    JHK almost makes the personally flawed but gifted film producer Weinstein as akin to the hot tempered, murderous Michelangelo Caravaggio.

    And too bad for angry Mike that he couldn’t time travel into the future and emerge as fellow artist Harvey Weinstein. After all, with a mug like the self portrait linked below–of which Al Pacino himself would have time travelled backwards in order to be the model–he would have surely been included in the esteemed company of Flynn,Bogart, and Mason, living the life of “a vulgarian alpha male in an expensive suit working the casting couch in his office on the lot.”!


    • tucsonspur October 17, 2017 at 3:16 am #

      “Sick Bacchus”

      “Caravaggio. Painter of Miracles”. By Francine Prose.

      What a guy. The artist as outlaw and violent transgressive. The mix is almost unfathomable.

      “Having spent his brief, tragic and turbulent life painting miracles, he managed, in the process, to create one–the miracle of art, the miracle of the way in which some paint, a few brushes, a square of canvas, together with that most essential ingredient, genius, can produce something stronger than time and age, more powerful than death”. Francine Prose

  44. Pucker October 17, 2017 at 1:19 am #

    The Hindus must be getting ready for a big “Ho Down”?

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    • cbeard October 17, 2017 at 6:09 am #

      And if she gets up they will throw her down again.

      • Pucker October 17, 2017 at 9:02 am #

        Diwali in 2017 will start on Wednesday, the 18th of October (18/10/2017) and will continue for 5 days until Sunday, the 22nd of October.

        • Pucker October 17, 2017 at 9:04 am #

          In the Gregorian calendar, the Diwali festival always falls between mid-October and mid-November.

          What does it commemorate?
          Hindus celebrate the triumph of good over evil – of light over darkness – to mark the return of Ram, the lord of virtue, to his kingdom after 14 years of exile.

          Followers of Jainism commemorate Mahavira, a venerated ascetic who fundamentally reformed the faith, reaching a state of nirvana after his death.

          Sikhs use Diwali to mark the anniversary of the release from prison of Guru Hargobind in 1619.

          For Buddhists, this day represents the time Emperor Ashoka gave up everything and adopted a path of peace after going through bloodshed and death. The day is observed as Ashok Vijayadashami.

  45. Pucker October 17, 2017 at 3:22 am #

    What was the name of the Daniel Craig movie in which the female motorcycle punk rocker rams a stainless steel dildo up the asshole of the Swedish Social Worker and then zaps it with a taser? I recall that that movie got good reviews.

  46. pequiste October 17, 2017 at 10:09 am #

    For sale: fame and fortune.

    Price: One human soul.

    Harvey Weinstein was simply in the properties business you see.

    Old joke :

    A wealthy and powerful Hollywood studio chief dies unexpectedly and finds himself in Hades.

    After checking in he is brought before Mephistopheles himself.

    The Devil, after introductions, chit-chat about the circumstances of the great Hollywood man’s demise, the current crop of films, latest gossip, then praises the films from the studio; the careers made, the beautiful leading ladies; the handsome men. The Devil offers to show the mogul around himself. “We have so much in common” he says to the mogul.

    The first alcove they come to has a man still very much conscious, skewered lengthwise, being cooked slowly over a fire. Devils turning the crank and poking the body with pitchforks.

    The mogul says to the Devil “What did this guy do?”

    Mephistopheles says “he was a politician who said, “It would be a long day in hell before I vote for a tax increase.” He voted for a nice income tax increase in his last term in Congress. After he died, he got his wish when he came here. Would you like to engage in these types of actions for your stay here?” “No thank you” says the mogul.

    As they move along the great halls and corridors of the Underworld, blood curdling screams and moaning were heard constantly.

    The next room that the Devil stops at has a woman whose tongue was being ironed with a red-hot iron on a rock by a demon. The mogul again asks “What did this lady do?” _That’s no lady” the Devil retorts, “she was a news presenter for a major TV network.” Might this appeal to you?” Asks the Devil with a grin. “Not really my cup of tea.” replies the mogul. Satan and his entourage move on.

    After seeing a several more chambers of horrors, the Devil opens a door to a room where the Great-Man-of-Hollywood sees an absolutely gorgeous young blonde female, naked, except for a dog-collar and high heels, kneeling before a disgusting, fat, ugly, slimey, old man, covered with suppurating sores oozing vile fluids, fellating the astonishingly well-hung old man. The Devil winks at the mogul and asks ” Well my friend, how does this set up appeal to you?” The mogul smiles broadly and replies ” I think this scenario will suit me just fine thank you.”

    Immediately, Lucifer snaps his fingers and demon assistants grab the mogul as Mephistopheles says “O.K. honey, you can leave now.”

    • volodya October 17, 2017 at 12:00 pm #

      Hilarious. He’s the Deceiver after all.

    • seawolf77 October 17, 2017 at 1:00 pm #

      The fucker becomes the fuckee is standard karmic retribution. I think the better one is having one of his daughters being sexually harassed, if he has any.

  47. volodya October 17, 2017 at 11:34 am #

    Njguy and wm5135,

    I guess that, when it comes to protection, fathers can’t be with their daughters and wives 24-7 and nobody wants a Taliban-like regime where women only leave the family compound under the guard of gun or knife wielding husband-brother-father.

    Having said that, Harvey Weinstein isn’t a one-off phenomenon. This shit happens all the time in all kinds of workplaces and schools. But who are the perps? They’re guys that figure they can count on the woman staying quiet.

    The question is why do women stay quiet? The simplest explanation is dependency. Speak up and lose that job. Lose the good regard of the professor. Get ostracised by the cool kids. The whistle-blower always loses. And often-times women are enablers and minimizers. They cast aspersions on the victim, the victim was stupid, the victim asked for it. Just look at Hillary’s behavior. Did Hillary leave Bill’s ass? To the contrary.

    And I think that another answer lies in modern societal roles. Modern-day men are generally scorned by women as being useless to them. And for good reason. Provider? No, women have to work or they have to rely on government programs. Protector? No, women look to police. The common man relinquished those functions. By popular assent the government official has become the de-facto male surrogate.

    Should fathers be stomping the guts out of college administrators? Yeah but fathers should first be stomping the guts out of the no-account dick-head that screwed his daughter. The rapist ought to be scared shitless of the girls’ male relatives. Same thing in the work-place. The FIRST thought of the libidinous boss that can’t keep his mouth shut and his hands to himself ought NOT to be about legal consequences but rather, if he makes a move on this gal, will he end up beaten to a pulp or floating down the river.

    But these are modern days aren’t they? We’re enlightened now aren’t we? There’s no certainty, like night follows day, of retribution for sexual crimes. Rather, there’s the clanking along of the impartial rule of law, due process and all that. So, the natural result being no fear from the likes of the Harvey Weinsteins. They do what they want and 99% of them are never held to account.

    And yeah, wm5135, we have no honor and yeah, in this poisonous culture, anything goes.

    • pequiste October 17, 2017 at 11:47 am #

      Couldn’t agree more with your analysis V. “…we have no honor and yeah, in this poisonous culture, anything goes.”

      Cole Porter knew a thing or two about the situation:


      • volodya October 17, 2017 at 11:59 am #

        “Glimpse of stocking” …. made me laugh.

        We got a glimpse of Britney’s twinkie winking at us and nobody blinked.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 17, 2017 at 1:29 pm #

      Almost, but not quite. The Patriarch also has authority over his wife and daughters. He’s not their personal hit man, beating up men who disrespect them. You’re describing what We call the White Knight. White Knights routinely get fucked over by women. The Patriarch is above women – and which is why they voted for the State to destroy him. Now they yearn for him and seek him in Muslims and Non-Whites.

  48. wm5135 October 17, 2017 at 12:32 pm #

    volodya, you and I must have a copy of the same operators manual. We are in agreement.

  49. malthuss October 17, 2017 at 12:48 pm #

    Are we willing to admit that the old fashioned censors were right?

    J Edgar Hoover, whining about ‘porn’ and looking at ‘boy mags’?

    Joni Mitchell has a song where she mentions a ‘Priest w a pornographic wristwatch.’

    Maybe the censors were of the ‘do as I say, not etc’

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    • Janos Skorenzy October 17, 2017 at 1:32 pm #

      So nobody is good then? And thus there are no answers? In fact, in old America, pornography was kept down as it is in many places. Hypocrisy? The price vice pays to virtue. And the existence of bad money is the proof that good money exists.

      You have studied the darkness so long that you have begun to forget about the Light.

  50. Janos Skorenzy October 17, 2017 at 1:52 pm #

    To the editor:

    “Bad, bad, bad” (my letter to the editor, Sept. 3) argues that a key weapon in ongoing political battles is the “Three Bads”: Your ancestors were Bad People (racists, oppressors). You’re a Bad Person. Your leaders are Bad People. Media, entertainment, universities, schools supply steady doses of the Three Bads.

    But there’s a still more potent weapon, the “Three Goods”: Mass immigration is Good. Multi-culturalism is Good. Diversity is Good.

    One can read newspapers for years without seeing a skeptical report or commentary on mass immigration, multi-culturalism or diversity. That’s no accident. Three Bads and Three Goods propaganda enable a demographic revolution that Americans never voted for. Immigration is transforming America.

    What’s happening? Before 1965, U.S. immigration laws favored Europe as the source of legal immigration. The U.S. discriminated in favor of people most likely to assimilate to American cultural norms. Then came the Civil Rights era. Discrimination seemed racist. So Congress opened immigration to the world.

    In a bounteous gesture, Congress added generous “family reunification” provisions for bringing in extended family. Over time this produced “chain migration” of relatives. Nonetheless, champions of the 1965 law, such as Sen. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts, assured the public at the time that “the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset.”

    The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, in fact, shifted source countries for future immigration from Europe to Latin America, Asia and, increasingly, the Middle East. Some results? Fracturing cultural cohesion, rising identity tribalism, increasing polarization.

    Consider stats for the 2016 election. Donald Trump was the first presidential candidate to challenge the Three Bads/Three Goods status quo. He soared among white voters. In North Carolina, for example, Trump got 63 percent of the white vote. Hillary Clinton got 32 percent. Clinton, on the other hand, captured 79 percent of the non-white vote (89 percent of black voters, 59 percent of Latinos, 55 percent of others). Trump got only 18 percent of the N.C. non-white vote (8 percent black, 40 percent Latino, 40 percent other).

    Trump’s victory aside, the 1965 Immigration Act, if not altered, will give Democrats/leftists a permanent political majority. That’s why you never read or see anything negative about the media’s sacred causes of mass immigration, multi-culturalism, or diversity. Victory is too near. The stakes are too high. The end-game is too close.

    Expect a doubling down on Three Bads/Three Goods narratives.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 17, 2017 at 2:01 pm #


      Big Lies Promote Our Demise. Elrond rubs his hands together, his wintry Canadian smile warming up just a bit to reveal his pointed teeth. Sea Wolf guffaws and chortles as he does back flips into Elrond’s pool. Old Crotch lifts his glass and says to the Whites, “I sent you Hitler, but you didn’t listen. In fact, you destroyed the One who could have saved you. You have no one to blame but yourselves”.

      Indeed, what is Lucifer but the Dark Side of God? Tolkien’s Melkor, or He who rises in Strength? And since Wisdom is devalued in the West, it became “Luciferian”.

      • 100th Avatar October 17, 2017 at 2:33 pm #


        Consecutive non sequiturs.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 17, 2017 at 6:52 pm #

          A flow of images symbolizing ideas. A river of memes that ends in the shining sea, yea, the shining sea. The Life that doth abide in Light is there and the dark man Bennett and the fair man Jones.

      • malthuss October 17, 2017 at 6:47 pm #

        such as Sen. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts, assured the public at the time that “the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset

        According to Brimelow, Teddy assured people that the people brought in would number 5,000.


  51. FincaInTheMountains October 17, 2017 at 2:40 pm #

    On the eve of the collapse of the USSR, world science developed at a fairly rapid pace. For example, history began to explore the possibility of kinship of the Biblical Hittites, who had disappeared from Asia Minor to nowhere three thousand years ago, and the Hattians appeared in the upper reaches of Main and Weser from nowhere.

    This could explain a great deal in the Bronze Age catastrophe and the hatred of the Vikings towards the Romans and Franks who considered themselves descendants of the Trojans.

    But even more interest in the early 80’s caused a hypothesis about the relationship of Georgian Iberians and Iberians of Spain, as it promised a breakthrough in the study of such an important period in history as the Migration Period that could reveal the real and not fictional connection of the aforementioned Hattians with the Prussians and the Etruscans, as well as the Vikings-Russians, and Slavs, who invited to reign Rurik, whose grandson became the prototype of the most important hero of Shakespeare.

    You understand the importance of this not only for history, but also for literature, philosophy and even politics.

    Unfortunately, all these studies disappeared in the unknown direction along with the Marxism and now not only such quasi-science as archaeogenetics brainwashes young people, but academic history is busy with who knows what.

    And the philosophy that serves the advertising business and political propaganda, for which the denial of non-manipulative reality by postmodernism is a heaven’s manna?!

    Just Fukuyama worth something! I’m not talking about the history of the Church – in the 80s everyone admired the works of Father John Meyendorff, and now the main topic is the sexual relationship between Matilda and the Saint of Russian Orthodox Church.

    And the economy, God forgive?! Oganbegyan published the article – well, he did not understand anything from what he saw in the 90’s with his own eyes.

    A slightly better situation is in physics and mathematics – at least there are gravitational waves and Perelman.

  52. seawolf77 October 17, 2017 at 3:58 pm #

    Speech is free until it cost something. In this case it collided head on with the CTE scandal. Put those together and you have real reasons not to watch football. With the latest Patriot’s gift, I am sick of it all really, except here in Houston we got DeShaun Watson tearing it up. Alas only 2 African Americans have won the Super Bowl, and it took nearly 30 years for number 2.

  53. Pucker October 17, 2017 at 7:36 pm #

    October 2017 is the 20th anniversary of one of the greatest movies ever made—-“Boogie Nights”.



  54. FincaInTheMountains October 17, 2017 at 7:58 pm #

    US foreign policy has become a hostage to the policy internal, and the need to somehow respond to the strengthening of Russia creates to American journalists of cloak and dagger insurmountable propaganda difficulties.

    In particular, it raises an indigestible question: “Who lost Russia?”.

    And indeed, on the one hand, they need to unleash anti-Russian hysteria and shout about the “communist-feudal threat and terrible Russians” preparing to seize the US, strike a nuclear blow against the free world and take away something from the American people – whether it is Free Enterprise, whether it is a Bill of Rights, or social guarantees.

    On the other hand, the Americans have not forgotten how they been explained in the Clinton’s era that Russia has ended and its opinion on international issues, such as the bombing of Belgrade, simply does not matter.

    And one of the main achievements of Bush Jr. was the discovery of the soul in the eyes of Putin and, as a consequence, the end of the cold war and a good personal relationship with the owner of this soul.

    Democrats told the Americans in the 90s that Russia would inevitably disintegrate, and the nuclear missiles in the “Upper Volta” by 2010 will exhaust its resource and by 2015 will be out of order. And officially the question “Who lost Russia?” in its expanded form reads: “Who has not sufficiently supported the processes of democratization in Russia, so that instead of thanking America for chicken legs, getting rid of the communist dictatorship and helping build democratic institutions, puts sticks in American wheels all over the globe and, soon again will place nuclear missiles in Cuba.”

    The answer to this question is obvious to the democrats – George Bush the Elder, since it was he who, in 1990, did not sufficiently support Gorby and allowed Yeltsin, Shushkevich and Kravchuk to pull rag of power over the USSR out of under him. And rumors of a catastrophic fall in the standard of living in Russia, when it was rushing to join the world community, and America was controlled by Clinton (and it’s unclear which one of them), have nothing to do with today’s anti-American sentiments in Russia.

    On the other hand, the unofficial question “Who lost Russia?” is formulated as follows: “Who allowed the Russian fuckers to slip out of the trap into which they were led by Gorbachev?”

    And the answer to this question among the Democrats is also only one – George Bush the Younger, since in 2000 he dared to see the soul in Putin’s eyes, invited him to the ranch and gave him the opportunity to express his sympathy after September 11.

    And that after General Clark ordered NATO to attack the Russian troops in the Pristina airport, Kursk “drowned”, Yeltsin from China reminded Clinton of Russia’s nuclear triad, and the President of the Union State of Russia and Belarus, who came to the Bush inauguration at his invitation, was arrested at the New York airport.


    And in 2008 Bush exacerbated his guilt by refusing to help a small but proud Georgian aggressor in arranging for his salvation a small victorious end of the world.

    The fact is that although the Cold War is officially considered declared in response to the Soviet threat by Churchill speech in Fulton, but in fact its cause was the appearance of the US atomic bomb and the death of Roosevelt, which devalued the Yalta agreements.

    And the formal reason for turnaround on the Yalta agreements was the refusal of the Polish Government in London to recognize the Yalta-agreed borders of Poland, one must think from the Churchill’s pitch.

    And after Stalin’s death and the concentration of Soviet troops in Kamchatka ceased, the Soviet Union never aspired to inflict a military defeat on the US and NATO, while Churchill ordered the preparation of Operation Unthinkable almost the day after Roosevelt’s death.


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    • Ol' Scratch October 18, 2017 at 7:04 am #

      The US and Russia, (actually, the US mostly) is locked in the “big brother/little brother” syndrome).

      The US was, of course, the better looking. athletic older brother who was an immediate success right out of high school, made a little money right out of the gate, but then squandered it on drugs, material possessions, and fast women, then turned to a life of crime to fuel his habits, before eventually ending up in prison with his savings gone and his youthful health and good looks a long-distant memory. Blaming everyone but himself for his many problems, he was locked onto the fast track toward a early and extremely miserable death. The force of Ol’ Scratch grew stronger in this one every day of his miserable life.

      Russia on the other hand, was the prototypical late bloomer. A little slow and of average looks, he learned early on that he’d have to survive on his wits and that he had no room in his life for vices of any kind whatsoever. He had a few stumbles coming out of high school before coming around, but his slow, forgiving nature made them all survivable and he immediately took the lessons his experiences taught him to heart. At 40 he was married to a kindly woman of average looks and means, raising a prosperous and respectful family, and his respect within the community was high and ever-growing. In spite of his good fortune, he never let any of it go to his head and always remained true to his humble roots. Ol’ Scratch worked over time tempting this one, but his door always remained resolutely closed to me.

      • FincaInTheMountains October 18, 2017 at 10:42 am #

        Qurious allegory which probably has nothing to do with reality.

        Besides, Russia is at least 1000 years older.

  55. SvrzoH October 17, 2017 at 8:20 pm #

    Most of people not interested in anything Hollywood knew what is the ‘only way’ to lend a role and, apparently, aspiring actresses did not ?
    Hollywood and west LA apartments are saturated with beautiful young girls driving beat-up cars. After some years go by, I guess, desperation must be running high, as to prove it to folks back in small towns that they had made it.
    I used to work in split level office in West LA while ago, and my boss’s desk, being on upper level, had a perfect view to a gas station across the street. His favor past time, mostly while on the phone was to watch with binoculars those girls filling mentioned cars. Visits were frequent, since budgets did not allow for full tank.
    Price to pay if one wants to be a ‘Hollywood actress’ and not just an actress for the love of it
    Good question on the red carpet gala would have been: “Do you regret it (or) would you do it again if you can go back in time?”
    Is it an urban legend that Meryl was the “only one who did not do it’ ?

    • 100th Avatar October 17, 2017 at 9:33 pm #

      Does anyone read this BS?
      Seriously, my scrolling thumb hates you.

      • 100th Avatar October 17, 2017 at 9:34 pm #

        That was @ f***headinthevalley

    • onehunglo October 17, 2017 at 9:18 pm #

      ah, Mr. Tibbs, it good to see you in fine form!!

      many foolish heart on this board always decry gloom and doom…..

      humanity continue to live far greater lives over entire planet!

      abundance for all to enjoy…….only crisis is that of ignorance.

      that ok.

      let not you heart be troubled.

      may God be with you.


      • elysianfield October 18, 2017 at 11:06 am #

        “…….only crisis is that of ignorance.”


        But in New Republic, ignorance punished with iron fist…abundance denied…life short and brutal.

        that ok?

  56. 100th Avatar October 17, 2017 at 9:39 pm #

    The first half of the 20th century was a turbulent time for Russia.
    The political system was drastically and violently transformed, there was an explosion of avant-garde art, and then Stalin led the country through the violent period of industrialization.

    Many believe that it was during that time that Russia gained enough force and resources to be able to defeat the Nazis in the WW2.

    The First World War started in 1914, Russia was allied with UK and France and fought against Germany, Austro-Hungarian Empire and Turkey.

    This war changed completely the map of Europe and lead to the collapse of the Russian Empire as well. Emperor Nikolay the Second handled the power to the Temporary Government on February 27th 1917.

    The Temporary Government attempted to gain control over the country, but it was supported by the bourgeois only.

    The situation was used by Bolsheviks who got popularity among soldiers and workers because of their populist slogans and charismatic leader Vladimir Lenin.

    Bolsheviks revolted on October 25th 1917. It took four more years of Civil war for Bolsheviks to get control over the whole Russia.

    To the end of this period Russian republic was completely devastated.

    Millions of people were killed, industry collapsed, famine started, Russia lost control over Poland, Finland, Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia.

    You may know Yakov Smirnoff as the Russian comedian who pumps his arms, exclaims “What a country” and laughs like a donkey.

    But this funny man is also serious and emotional. He’s an accomplished artist. (His work hung at Ground Zero and received national attention.) He’s an author, a father, a patriot, holds degrees in art and psychology, and above all, he’s an American success story.

    And what about that name? It’s not completely real.

    When Yakov immigrated to the United States, he landed his first job in a bar and changed his last name from Pokhis to Smirnoff, he said, because “it would be easy for Americans to remember.”

    When he was young, laughter was a way to get attention. Then it became a way to get the girl, the nice car, the house. Now, he sees comedy as a gift he wants to share.

    “When you’re watching people laugh, it’s a very intimate moment. Laughter is the shortest distance between two people,” Yakov said, speaking after a recent performance.

    After 20 years in Branson, this is his last full season to perform at his theater. Yakov will spend the next two years touring the country, focused on using comedy to help couples. He wants to bring “love and laughter” back to marriages.

    It’s a change that has been percolating for a while. His time in the Ozarks has been transformational. Yakov referred to himself as a caterpillar who was feeding, taking, before he came to Branson. While here, he moved into a cocoon and grew as a man. And now it’s time to fly.

    Life in Russia

    Yakov grew up an only child in a one-room apartment with his parents.

    He was always funny, he said, but didn’t expect to be a comedian because Russia was heavily censored. Originally, his dream was to sing, but his first performance crushed that idea.

    “I sang and people were laughing, and I knew that was not an appropriate response. Then I made jokes and people laughed, and I knew that was the appropriate response,” he said.

    One thing was for sure, he didn’t want to work in an office, and he needed a creative outlet, so he studied art. After college, he performed a few comedy skits and people loved him. Soon he would do whatever it took to get in front of an audience. Before he knew it, comedy was paying more than his art.

    He landed a job as a comedian on a Russian cruise ship.

    When asked what he missed about his native land, he shook his head.

    “I don’t,” he said seriously, paused, and then told a joke. “Oh, there were plenty of parking spaces, and always a policeman around when you need one.”

    Coming to America

    In 1977, when Yakov was 26, he moved to America with his parents.

    “I was clear on what I wanted to do (be a comedian), I just didn’t know I needed to speak English,” he joked.

    The family moved to New York City and didn’t have enough money for an apartment deposit. That was the first time he experienced American generosity.

    Without the deposit, the landlord rented the apartment to his family because her parents had been immigrants and someone had helped them. That night, she asked other tenants to give anything extra they could spare to help these new immigrants, and many did.

    By 1979, he was in Florida working as a short-order cook and still struggling with English. Because Yakov had cruise ship experience, a friend typed up Yakov’s resume and sent it to Royal Caribbean International.

    Yakov was hired, then fired after one voyage because of his poor English.


    Four years later, he was hired back on that same ship as the headliner, he said with a smile.

    His career took off.

    He had seven appearances on “The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson” and was asked to perform for President Ronald Reagan. (He’s performed for three presidents.) He met numerous celebrities, had bookings in Las Vegas, got married, had two children and bought a $2.5 million home in the Pacific Palisades neighborhood of Los Angeles.

    He became an American citizen on July 4, 1986.

    Life was good.

    And then something unexpected happened.

    Welcome to Branson

    When the Soviet Union collapsed, David Letterman mentioned Yakov in his Top Ten List.

    The talk show host predicted Yakov would soon be out of work.

    “I was laughing,” said Yakov. “But then, people started canceling my shows, and I wasn’t laughing anymore. All of a sudden, I was fading away.”

    The comedian said it took a while to figure it out, but he realizes now that there was so much tension between the U.S and Soviet Union during the Cold War and he made people comfortable. He was that funny Russian who put people at ease. They didn’t need him now.

    But Branson was different.

    In Branson, if you are talented and willing to work hard, the attitude is “Come on, down. We’ll give you a chance,” he said.

    He went to see Shoji Tabuchi’s show and thought: “I can do this.”

    Only in America can a Japanese and Russian have a theater in the Ozarks, he joked.

    Yakov rented space, and only 18 people showed up at his debut performance.

    “I thought, ‘Oh, boy. How am I going to pay my mortgage in California?’ But a year later, 1,000 people would come to my show,” he said.

    Then 2,000.

    To date, he has performed for more than 4 million people in Branson. After renting from several theaters, Yakov eventually bought his own, which seats 1,800.

    Branson gave him a home. He raised his children here.

    “Branson was a cocoon for me,” he said. “In the cocoon, you are developing. I had no idea that was going to happen.”


    • BackRowHeckler October 17, 2017 at 11:13 pm #

      I like to read short stories by Dr. Anton Chekhov. They are unsurpassable. When I read about the peasants, the farmers, the gentry, etc in old Russia I think ‘these are the people, a few decades hence, who will be ground up in the Bolshevik mincing machine, by the millions’.

      Also, Avatar, much of the logistics the Soviets used to defeat Nazi Germany was provided by the United States in the lend lease program. The US never took payment for the material shipped to Russia 1942-1945.


      • FincaInTheMountains October 18, 2017 at 3:22 am #


      • FincaInTheMountains October 18, 2017 at 3:40 am #

        American canned stewed beef was pretty good, unfortunately it does not replace brains with peas.

        • seawolf77 October 18, 2017 at 9:52 am #

          Dinty Moore anyone?

      • malthuss October 18, 2017 at 10:47 am #

        Helping Uncle Joe, step by step.

        • malthuss October 18, 2017 at 10:49 am #

          Did Truman give printing plates to Joe, to print US bonds or money?

          • FincaInTheMountains October 18, 2017 at 11:00 am #

            You outta your mind? Stalin paid with finest Siberian gold

      • Janos Skorenzy October 18, 2017 at 1:23 pm #

        Picked up Bill O’Reilly’s book “Killing Patton”. He and his ghost writer have written a slew of these pot boilers about Lincoln, Kennedy, Christ, etc. Even this most establishment figure admits there is a great mystery here, with no investigation or anyone ever disciplined. Before his death, a high level operative admitted to the crime.

        The Elite didn’t want Patton coming back to challenge Eisenhower’s crimes against the German people on behalf of his benefactor, Baruch – clearly one of the Elders of Zion.

        • FincaInTheMountains October 18, 2017 at 4:00 pm #

          If General Patton had tried to carry out his threats in 1945, then Paris would have been the capital of the FSSR(French Soviet Socialist Republic), and he would have been hanged from the Eiffel Tower by his own soldiers before surrendering.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 18, 2017 at 5:39 pm #

            In other words, you’re in favor of the murder of Patton. As the Talmud says, Kill the best of the Gentiles.

    • elysianfield October 18, 2017 at 11:11 am #

      “In Former Soviet Union, you do not go looking for a party…the Party finds you….” Yakov Smirnoff (paraphrased)

      • FincaInTheMountains October 18, 2017 at 11:16 am #

        In today US, you do not go looking for a Deep State…the Deep State finds you…

  57. Q. Shtik October 17, 2017 at 10:13 pm #

    In case anybody cares, The Articulate Infant and Onehunglo are the same person.

  58. Q. Shtik October 17, 2017 at 10:51 pm #

    I have little doubt that Harvey Weinstein is a total cad but it pisses me off to see all these beautiful Hollywood women complain about “sexual objectification.” Who are they kidding? They LIVE to be sexually objectified. They just don’t want any losers (poor and ugly) showing undue interest.

    Here is an experiment for you: observe any woman on your block climbing behind the wheel of her car in the morning. See if the last thing she does before backing out of the driveway is to flip down the sun visor and check her look in the mirror. She will, and you may be assured that the last thing she does before exiting her car at her destination is to flip down the sun visor and check her look in the mirror AGAIN. This is near universal female behavior; men (i.e. heterosexual men) do not do this. As Janos has often said “for women, beauty is their wealth, and for men, wealth is their beauty.”

    My mother-in-law continued this behavior when she was 91 and very demented. Her mind was gone but she never failed to check her appearance in the mirror.

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    • BackRowHeckler October 18, 2017 at 12:49 am #

      Yeah, Harvey had some of the most beautiful women in the world before him on the casting couch, inside his private office. Sounds like he could resist anything except temptation.

      What’s new here? This sort of thing has been going on since the movie companies in Brooklyn, Manhattan and Edison NJ packed up their cameras and sets and moved them to sunny LA 115 years ago.


    • Ol' Scratch October 18, 2017 at 7:15 am #

      Very wise words Q! I believe the term “co-dependency” might apply here broadly as well, with women recently appearing to get the upper hand in that little dance of mutual manipulation.

      And a reminder: in the current western culture especially, commodification of everything is not only expected but inevitable, so the idea that women would trade on their beauty and men would trade on their monetary wealth and/or power should come as no surprise.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 18, 2017 at 1:17 pm #

      Yes, as the Muslims say, women are nine parts desire. The Christian Fathers thought the same, saying, But that the Lord instilled in them a certain shyness, no flesh would be saved.

      Are we ready to accept that moral standards must be brought back with a vengeance? Let Mormon women teach these sluts how to be truly feminine. Women will enforce our standards – our first line of defense. Women love to call other women sluts!

      • GreenAlba October 20, 2017 at 8:53 am #

        @Janos S.
        You misquote. The actual quote is “God created sexual desire in 10 parts; then he gave nine parts to women and one to men.”, which means something entirely different.

    • Sean Coleman October 18, 2017 at 3:52 pm #

      I am waiting for the day I will read this headline:

      “Prostitute Claims She Was Treated As Sex Object”

      • malthuss October 18, 2017 at 4:43 pm #

        Hollywood eye candy wants to be seen as more than a dumb blonde.

  59. onehunglo October 18, 2017 at 9:10 am #


    “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”
    – Sun Tzu, 500 B.C.

    “There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution.”
    – Aldous Huxley, March 20, 1962.

    “I foresee the time when we shall have the means and therefore, inevitably, the temptation to manipulate the behaviour and intellectual functioning of all the people through environmental and biochemical manipulation of the brain.”
    – Zbigniew Brzezinski, “Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era.” 1970.

    “A group of researchers from Germany and the United States have published a study which concludes that doping ‘xenophobic’ populations with massive quantities of the estrogen-linked hormone Oxytocin will cure nationalism.”
    – Zero Hedge, August 29, 2017.

    “Human antidepressants are building up in the brains of bass, walleye and several other fish common to the Great Lakes region.”
    – Charlotte Hsu, PHYS.ORG, August 31, 2017.

    In the old republic, globalist technocrats enjoy manipulating the human thought genome, with the express intent the transformative suppression of Liberty, Ingenuity, Rugged Individualism, Independent Thought, Nationalism, Spontaneous Cooperation, Abundance, and Free Will.

    that ok.

    let not you heart be troubled.

    may God be with you.


    • akmofo October 18, 2017 at 10:18 am #

      Don’t forget glyphosate bread and arsenic rice.

  60. akmofo October 18, 2017 at 9:12 am #

    Speaking of beautiful women, a little Thai paradise in Kfar Yehoshua:


    And to Yan, yes I wish they be mine 🙂

    • Ol' Scratch October 19, 2017 at 8:45 pm #

      Beautiful! Too bad they’re so westernized.

  61. FincaInTheMountains October 18, 2017 at 9:27 am #

    Theology and Pornography

    In these films, actively using pornography as a color for the presentation of theological writings, the essence of the Church of England is expressed, which does not belong to neither of the Western World Projects, since King Henry VIII tore it from the clutches of Catholicism before the Western Black Project managed to digest it.

    This made the Church of England virtually identical to Orthodoxy in the field of religious philosophy, but as far removed from it as the above-mentioned colors for its icons.

    Actually this is exactly what became the ideological basis of Stanley Kubrick’s film “Clockwork Orange”, which shows from the point of view of the Western man, what I’m trying to explain:

    All three Western World Projects are perpendicular to Orthodoxy, and Russia participates in them, due to the lack of an Orthodox project, an attempt to expound which can be considered Stanley Kubrick’s films “Clockwork Orange” and “Eyes Wide Shut”.

    And if the first film is an honest but not too successful attempt to expound that part of the religious philosophy shared by Russian Orthodoxy and the Church of England, then the second film is something else…



    • sprawlcapital October 18, 2017 at 11:57 am #

      Commercials as Mini-movies

      A close relative to the movies are the commercial advertisements we see on TV. Young actors and actresses compete for roles in these ad, as they do for movie roles.

      There are distinct classes of TV ads. The only good ones are the factual ads–no attempt is made to be clever or creative; they just convey the facts about the product clearly.

      My favorite current factual ads are those for PC-Matic.

      The worst genre or class of ad is what I call the Fool Ad. And the worst Fool Ad I have seen so far is the current one for Geico Insurance in which a fool who is supposed to be part of a symphony orchestra performs a solo on a triangle.

      To think that Geico payed money to have an agency “create” this disgusting commercial is sickening.

      I’m sure there will be even worse Fool Ads in the future, and young actors will compete, in ways we may never know about, to be hired to portray the next Big Fool.

      • malthuss October 18, 2017 at 4:42 pm #

        Geico ads were Negro Worship, for a long time.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 18, 2017 at 5:57 pm #

      Janos: Solzhenitsyn’s book about the Jewish role in Russian history is at least available in English, apparently. Here is a good review. Needless to say, although fair to the Jews, it is utterly damning to their grotesque pretensions to absolute virtue. Janos out.

      The censorship is described by Columbus Falco, “Published in the original Russian in 2002, the book was received with a firestorm of rage and denunciation from the literary and media world, from the Jews, and from almost the entire intelligentsia of the established order in the West…immense efforts have been made by the Russian authorities and also by the Western liberal democratic power structure to ignore 200 YEARS TOGETHER, to suppress it as much as possible, and above all to prevent and interdict the book’s translation into foreign languages, most especially into English, which has become essentially the worldwide language of our epoch…The Russian authorities have to this date refused to allow any official English translation of the book to be published”. (p. 2).

      Columbus Falco refrains from vainglory about his translation, “This is an attempt to create a READABLE translation of 200 YEARS TOGETHER for a worldwide English-speaking audience which is—let us be brutally frank—largely dumbed-down and functionally illiterate, due to the degeneration and destruction of English-speaking society since the end of the Second World War. This horrific truth is the result of a pervasive Cultural Marxism…” (p. 3; Emphasis in original).


      So what is so naughty, naughty about this book? Most of it consists of unremarkable information that can be found in standard, non-censored texts. [For details, see comments.]

      Agree with author Solzhenitsyn or not, but recognize the fact that he is no lightweight. Solzhenitsyn goes into considerable detail about many different historical epochs, and clearly has a deep knowledge of the issues that he raises. His approach is balanced. He is sympathetic towards Jews as well as critical of Jews. The latter evidently does not sit well with many, because it does not comply with the standard Judeocentric narrative, in which Jews are just victims and can do no wrong. Worse yet, a famous writer is bringing sometimes-unflattering information about Jews to light, and this is threatening. Hence the censorship.


      Far from living in oppression, Russia’s Jews not only had more freedom than the serfs, but also more than the Russian traders and merchants. (pp. 16-17), and this was also true of more recent times. (p. 45). Soon after the Partitions of Poland, Derzhavin visited the area and reported on the Jews in the then-current manorial society. The Polish nobility had turned over the management of their estates to the Jews (p. 21), and the Jews engaged in conduct that brought them short-term profits and long-term antagonisms.

      Consider the PROPINACJA. The Jews accumulated wealth by cooperating with each other. (p. 31). They made profits by taking the peasants’ grain to the point of impoverishing them (and causing famine), turning it into brandy, and then encouraging drunkenness. (p. 21, 24). Jews forced peasants into lifelong debt and crushing poverty by requiring payment, in cattle and tools, for liquor. (p. 31).

      In addition, a system of bribery protected this arrangement. Thus, the Polish magnates were on the “take” of part of the wealth squeezed by Jews out of the peasantry, and, without the Jews and their inventiveness, this system of exploitation could not have functioned, and would have ended. (p. 22). Solzhenitsyn adds that, “…the Jewish business class derived enormous benefit from the helplessness, wastefulness, and impracticality of landowners…” (p. 54).

      The Jews kept moving around in order to prevent an accurate count of their numbers—in order to evade taxes. (p. 25). A delegation of Jews travelled to St. Petersburg to try to bribe Russian officials to suppress Derzhavin’s report. (p. 28). In 1824, Tsar Alexander I noticed that Jews were corrupting local inhabitants to the detriment of the treasury and private investors. (p. 32).

      Jews were not forced into “parasitic” occupations: They chose them. (p. 31). By the late 19th century (the time of the pogroms), Russian anger had boiled over, focusing on such things as Jews not making their own bread, massive overpricing and profiteering, enriching themselves while impoverishing the muzhik, and taking control of forests, lands, and taverns. (pp. 78-80).

      Nor is it true that the Jews were kept out of “productive” occupations. To the contrary. A concerted 50-year tsarist effort to turn Jews into farmers attracted few participants (p. 33), and ended in failure. (p. 58). None of the rationalizations for its failure are valid: Other newcomers to Russian agriculture (Mennonites, Bulgarian and German colonists, etc.), facing the same challenges as the Jews, did quite well. (p. 36). Jewish farmers neglected farm work (pp. 34-35), and kept drifting back into selling goods and leasing of their property to others to farm. (pp. 56-57). The century-later efforts by the Communists, to get Jews into farming, fared no better. (p. 208, 251).

      Jewish resistance to assimilation is usually framed in terms of the GOY excluding the Jew. It was the other way around. For the first half of the 19th century, rabbis and kahals strenuously resisted enlightenment, including the proffered Russian education to Jews. (p. 38).

      Jews have always tended to exaggerate the wrongs they have experienced from others. (p. 42). This applies to such things as double taxation, forced military service, expulsion from villages, etc. (p. 42, 46, 50).

      The Jews of the Vilnius (Wilno), Kaunas, and Grodno regions sided with the Russians during the Poles’ ill-fated January 1863 Insurrection. (p. 69). This confirms Polish sources.

      Mainstream Judaism did not conduct ritual murder. However, it is possible that some Jewish cults did so. (p. 40). [For more, see my review of BLOOD PASSOVER]. As for the PROTOCOLS, their authenticity was rejected early-on by the tsarist government. However, this did not erase legitimate grievances about Jewish influence. (p. 174).


      We often hear that Communist Jews were “not real Jews”. This nonsense is equivalent to saying that Lenin and other Russian Communists were “not real Russians”—a contrived distinction that Solzhenitsyn refuses to make. (p. 117). [For more, see comments].

      One common exculpation for Jews supporting revolutionary movements, and then Communism, is that of the tsarist system preventing Jews from improving their lot. This is nonsense. Once the Jews accepted the Russian education system, their numbers increased, to such a spectacular extent (by about 1870: p. 63, 71), in Russian higher education, that quotas (numerus clausus) had to be imposed upon them. This nowadays-called affirmative action became necessary because Jews were wealthier and thus unfairly advantaged in schooling-related matters. (p. 88).

      Hungary is instructive. There, Jewish grievances were the least valid. Hungarian Jews had enjoyed atypical freedoms and a high standard of living, and there had been no pogroms. Yet the 1919 Hungarian Communism was especially dominated by Jews, and was odiously cruel. (pp. 153-154).

      Another exculpation for Jews in Communism was the alleged need for defense against pogroms conducted by the Whites. Not so. The massive influx of Jews into the Soviet apparatus occurred in late 1917 and 1918, but the White pogroms did not begin until 1919. (p. 121).


      One can easily make lists of Jews in high positions in the Soviet Union. Influential Jews commonly occurred at a rate 10 or more times the abundance of Jews in the USSR. (e. g, pp. 143-on, 225-on). [For more, see comments]. Whether or not motivated by “ethnic solidarity”, Jews in authority tended to promote other Jews to high positions. (p. 138).

      However, the Jewish role in Communism goes far beyond what is apparent in any such “grocery list”. For instance, consider what some call the Judaization of academia, and its impact on the bloody events of 1917. Solzhenitsyn comments, “The February Revolution was carried out by Russian hands and Russian foolishness. Yet at the same time, its ideology was permeated and dominated by the intransigent hostility to the historical Russian state that ordinary Russians didn’t have, but the Jews had. So the Russian intelligentsia too had adopted this view.” (p. 98).

      Now consider the October Revolution. Lenin contended that the Bolshevik success in the revolution had been made possible by the role of the large Jewish intelligentsia in several Russian cities. (p. 119). Furthermore, according to Lenin, the October Revolution was preserved by the actions of Jews against the attempted sabotage by government officials. (p. 128).

      The energy and high intelligence of the Jews made them indispensable. (p. 129, 189). In fact, Solzhenitsyn suggests that Soviet Communism lost its ideological fervor, and began slowly to die of “Russian laziness”, already in the late 1960s, all because the Jews were largely gone. (p. 317).


      Dekulakization was not just an economic measure. It was a tool to uproot peoples and destroy their traditions and culture. For this reason, Stalin’s dictatorship can in no sense be accepted as a nationalist (Russian) phenomenon. (p. 221).

      Religious Judaism was never persecuted as intensely by the Communists, in the 1920s and 1930s, as was Russian Orthodox Christianity. (p. 306). High-level Jew Lazar Kaganovich directed the destruction of the Church of the Redeemer. He also wanted to destroy St. Basil’s Cathedral. (p. 223).

      The famous mobile gas chambers were not invented by the Nazis. They were developed, in 1937, by Isai Davidovich Berg, a leading Jew in the NKVD. (p. 237).


      Solzhenitsyn notes the irony that, in the West, there was little effective concern about the victims of Communism until it turned on the Jews. He quips, “15 million peasants were destroyed in the ‘dekulakisation’, 6 million peasants were starved to death in 1932, not even to mention the mass executions and millions who died in the camps, and at the same time it was fine to politely sign agreements with Soviet leaders, to lend them money, to shake their ‘honest hands’, to seek their support, and to boast of all this in front of your parliaments. But once it was specifically JEWS that became the target, then a spark of sympathy ran through the West and it became clear what sort of regime this was.” (p. 346; Emphasis is Solzhenitsyn’s).


      Alexander Solzhenitsyn describes the standard double-standard (one which Poles are all too familiar with), as he describes current Jewish attitudes, “There are so many such confident voices ready to judge Russia’s many crimes and failings, her inexhaustible guilt towards the Jews—and they so sincerely believe this guilt to be inexhaustible almost all of them believe it! Meanwhile, their own people are coyly cleared of any responsibility for their participation in Cheka shootings, for sinking the barges and their doomed human cargo in the White and Caspian seas, for their role in collectivization, the Ukrainian famine and in all the abominations of the Soviet administration, for their talented zeal in brainwashing the ‘natives’. This is not contrition.” (p. 335).

      Of course, Solzhenitsyn is not insinuating that Jews are collectively guilty for Communism. However, Jews should accept collective liability for Communism and its crimes in much the same way that Germans accept collective liability for Nazism and its crimes. (p. 141, 321). Until they do so, this issue of the Zydokomuna (Judeo-Bolshevism) will not go away.

      • 100th Avatar October 18, 2017 at 9:45 pm #

        It’s like the anti Semitic version of f****headonamountain

        • Janos Skorenzy October 19, 2017 at 1:08 pm #

          “Anti-Semitic” is your get out of jail free care – Truth being what you see as the jail….

          • akmofo October 19, 2017 at 2:44 pm #

            Yan, being anti Semitic, which you are, is applying a double standard that you would never apply to yourself. In the eyes of the anti Semite, Jews can do no right. No matter what path some take they are always guilty of some awful transgression. And a transgression that somehow all Jews must have participated in and all Jews are therefore guilty of. Whether a Jew does this or the opposite there’s always some awful transgression invented. It’s an impossible no win situation. Nevermind that for every such “guilty” Jewish person there are thousands and millions of exactly the same non-Jewish persons. But they never get judged collectively nor is there such discussion, ever.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 19, 2017 at 3:59 pm #

            As Solzhenitsyn said, you people always take full credit for whatever good that Jews do, and disavow completely whatever evil that Jews do – while holding all Whites to full account for whatever evil that Whites do.

            It’s hypocrisy Akmo. You should be ashamed. Or are you incapable of that – instead “exporting” all of that onto us as your scapegoats?

          • akmofo October 19, 2017 at 5:01 pm #

            Again, Jews are always guilty of some “awful transgression” that in others is completely natural and common. You judge Jews collectively guilty when you don’t others, especially your own. Is that true or not? That’s hypocrisy and double standard.

            I feel sorry for you, Yan. You’re not so stupid not to see the nonsense you put forth, but hate is your only escape. The only “feeling” you manage to produce to fill the emptiness in your existence. Sad.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 19, 2017 at 5:37 pm #

            And you see Jews as completely innocent of everything – as if they didn’t have a special and central role in Communism and the Russian Revolution as Solzhenitsyn delineates.

          • akmofo October 19, 2017 at 7:53 pm #

            No, the special and central role in Communism and the Russian Revolution was the Tzar and the monarchy.

            The Russian monarchy was a pretentious and loathsome institution. More than that, the Russian Tzar, like his cousins elsewhere, was an arrogant incompetent imbecile, and mercilessly bled his people with endless wars and theft. There’s a reason people got rid of this institution and it’s not because a handful of Jews also got involved in the revolution.

      • Ol' Scratch October 19, 2017 at 9:07 pm #

        Well done janos!

  62. tucsonspur October 18, 2017 at 2:42 pm #

    Yes, he’s done it again. Again, Cruz has oozed out of the lube pit and is sliding into tonight’s TV tax topic.

    High plastic screens will be in place, avoiding the usually necessary umbrellas for the audience.

    However, the elderly are being warned that floors in the vicinity may not have much traction.

    The usual squad of degreasers and oil spill containment people will be on site, with the latest in hydrocarbon solvents and absorbers.

    It is not yet known how Mr. Sanders plans to protect himself from the viscous, vile, venomous ooze of Cruz.

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  63. wm5135 October 18, 2017 at 7:04 pm #

    “viscous, vile, venomous ooze of Cruz.”

    Nicely done!!!

    • tucsonspur October 19, 2017 at 1:50 am #

      Thanks, wm.

  64. Janos Skorenzy October 18, 2017 at 7:51 pm #


    He lives to destroy America. One can only hope that his life ends before he succeeds. May God have mercy on his soul.

    • 100th Avatar October 18, 2017 at 9:43 pm #

      What’s the clock at? He’s in 11th hour

      • 100th Avatar October 18, 2017 at 9:48 pm #

        A fitting tribute will be a few crashing jets during the obligatory flyover at Arlington National

  65. elysianfield October 18, 2017 at 8:00 pm #

    Well, ladies and germs.
    The BBC site, this PM reports that the NFL has had their league meeting and…DOUBLED DOWN on the ongoing outrage by not requiring their “playas” to stand during the National Anthem. Apparently the owners feel that the vast majority of Americans who disapprove of this disrespect can and will soon learn to love and respect the Justice Warriors, their lickspittles and sycophants.

    This, I expect will happen when there is pork in the trees….

    • janet October 18, 2017 at 9:18 pm #

      Go, Colin! Drawing attention to illegal police killings by taking a knee is in the best American tradition of nonviolent protest. More power to them. It is not disrespect. It is patriotic to exercise dissent to protest abuse of police power.

      • benr October 18, 2017 at 9:49 pm #

        Spoken like a person who has zero life experience you simply live in a bubble.
        Colin Kaperdouche is an idiot that crap has zero business being done on NFL time as he represents a team and the NFL!
        I would fire anyone that pulled that crap.
        Protest peacefully on your own time all day long but as soon as you step out on that field as a player or someone who is paid to be there do your job and leave the politics outside the stadiums!

        • seawolf77 October 19, 2017 at 10:54 am #

          You’re the same guy who after the LA Riots said this is completely unacceptable. If people object to the Rodney King ruling they should protest peacefully. Then when they protest peacefully, you say this is completely unacceptable, they should protest off company time. The truth is what Colin Kapernik did was very effective and THAT is what you object to. The NFL owners know this and have decided in the most cowardly fashion to ostrasize him. Shame on them.

          • benr October 19, 2017 at 9:04 pm #

            I’m the same guy that knew Rodney King was a career criminal who caused all of his own misery. I’m the guy that thinks he should have been tried for attempted murder for every person he drove past when he was trying to escape from the police!
            I believe that POS should still be rotting a jail at least he would be alive now BUT I also knew old Rodney was going to blow through his ill gotten ghetto lottery winnings and die as a result of them.
            I’m sick to death of people getting paid because a couple of bad cops broke the rules and we the tax payers got to pay for his decade of non stop partying.
            A man can only handle so many hookers N blow weed and malt liquor don’t you know.
            Yes he died broke in his pool.
            The world is a better place without old Rodney.
            So you liberal nuts can lament the passing of someone not worth the very air he polluted with his co2 emissions like the fools so many of you prove to be.

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      • elysianfield October 19, 2017 at 12:40 pm #

        ” It is patriotic to exercise dissent to protest abuse of police power.”

        Sorry, but I cannot accept that rationale. I would expect that if you sequestered each dissenting player, and questioned them closely as to their motivations, you would find that the protest is but a knee-jerk reaction to perceived victimhood, with an abundance of incoherent answers, distilled to “…you know, slavery, racism and shit….”

        Their disrespect is a thumb in the eye of the prevailing culture in this country…and they know it.

      • Billy Hill October 19, 2017 at 3:52 pm #

        Go, Colin! Doth she mean go away?

        Geez Louise they’re entertainers. Nothing more, nothing less.

        Their audience seeks entertainment. Not theology, philosophy, sociology, or history. They do not wish to be reminded of The Big Issues when they have paid their hard-earned bucks to be entertained.

        So Colin: Entertain, or Die!

    • pequiste October 19, 2017 at 1:26 am #

      The N*FL should just get it over with and capitulate to the playas and forego the Star Spangled Banner altogether.

      Instead, before the game starts, they should play the true anthem of the ownas and playas:


      (it is so great to have this immediately accessible cultural artifact; it has so many uses and pungently answers many questions across the spectrum of economic, political and social issues raised by the Social Justice Warriors and rays-card playas.)

  66. janet October 18, 2017 at 8:46 pm #

    But in New Republic, ignorance punished with iron fist…abundance denied…life short and brutal. that ok? –elysianfield

    old view says life is nasty, brutish, and short. reality now is different. we are somewhere between five and 15 times better off in terms of material well-being than we were 100 years ago. Maybe more.

    Our standard of living has increased tenfold in the last century. Before Qshtik jumps in, yes, I do mean tenfold. Not 50% better. Not 100% better. But something in the range of 1,000% better than 100 years ago.

    But America’s success since 1900 isn’t really about money. It’s about using that indoor toilet and having penicillin so you don’t die from infection. It’s about women not dying in childbirth. In 1900, the chance of a woman in America dying during childbirth was about eight out of a thousand, almost one percent. Today, it’s about eight out of 100,000. Childbirth is 100 times safer than it was 100 years ago.

    life much better… no longer nasty, brutish or short. that ok. enjoy life. let not heart be troubled.

    • benr October 18, 2017 at 9:51 pm #

      Again you prove you live in a bubble.

      • janet October 19, 2017 at 12:13 am #

        life in bubble good! neighbors live in bubble, too! whole town in bubble we create together! let not your heart be troubled. believe eyes, not internet lies.

    • onehunglo October 19, 2017 at 12:40 am #

      ah, janet, you beginning to demonstrate wisdom well beyond you years!!

      humanity world-wide living better than ever….

      you one Buckminster Fuller call it correct.

      Either man is obsolete or war….

      that ok.

      let not you heart be troubled.

      may God be with you.


      • Ol' Scratch October 19, 2017 at 9:22 pm #

        Buckminster has since updated that comment to read simply: Western man is obsolete. Period. The rest is self-evident.

        • onehunglo October 20, 2017 at 5:28 am #

          ah, ol’ scratch…..Jesus Christ defeated you long ago….enjoy you infinite existence in lake of fire…..

          that ok.

          let not you heart be troubled.

          may God be with you.


    • elysianfield October 19, 2017 at 12:14 pm #

      Yes, life is better, life expectancy longer. But that was in the “Old Republic”. The “New Republic” will change human nature, apparently, and correct the many ills found in our culture today. Lenin, PolPot, others have tried to make humanity better in spite of unalterable human nature…with untold millions of human deaths.

      Is it true you were in Vegas and spirited Jesus Campos to an undisclosed safe house?

  67. bob October 19, 2017 at 8:12 am #


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      • elysianfield October 19, 2017 at 12:56 pm #

        In Keeping with today’s celebrations of our Host’s birthday, I would like to, as in the movie “The Godfather”, exercise the right to approach our Host with a request. I always considered your moustache presented you a more august appearance, certainly in keeping with your offered wisdom. My request that you grow another is, of course, superficial and subjective…but heartfelt.

        I am sure that if you saw my likeness you also would have many suggestions….

  68. wm5135 October 19, 2017 at 10:35 am #

    janet and onehunglo

    Blind men elephant.

  69. FincaInTheMountains October 19, 2017 at 10:42 am #

    Alaskan Conspirology

    Yesterday it was exactly 150 years since October 18, 1867 when the captain of the second rank Alexei Peshchurov descended the Russian flag over the fort of Sitka, and General Rousseau raised the US star stripes flag over it.


    According to Russian sources, captain of the second rank Alexey Peshchurov was an admiral, but the desire of Americans to show how little importance Russia gave to Alaska is clear – knows the cat whose meat it ate.

    Shortly before that event gold was found on the border with Alaska British Columbia, and a few months after the sale, gold was “discovered” in Alaska. But the news of this was hidden and the gold rush broke out only in 1896, when a steam ships were sent down the river to bring the supplies to the fortieth mile for gold mining in such difficult conditions.

    In the first 3 years of gold extraction, the miners paid the US Treasury approximately 30 times the money that the United States had to pay to Russia for Alaska, but rumored never had paid.

    The most interesting thing is that a similar story happened in California, where in 1841 the Russian-American company sold Fort Ross to American entrepreneur John Sutter, in whose sawmill gold was found in 1848, which actually caused the California gold rush, as well as the discovery of gold on the Bonanza Creek by George Carmack, Jim Squidum and Charlie Dawson marked the beginning of the Klondike Gold Rush.

    And the main beneficiary of both rushes was the bank of the British Rothschilds, who in 1849 received a mortgage on the property of Herzen in Russia and secured payments on it from the money of the fund created for the purchase of land during the liberation of the peasants in Russia. That’s how the peasant reform of 1861 – called abolition of serfdom – collapsed.

    Naturally, the assumption arises that all these coincidences are not accidental, and as soon as gold was discovered in California and Alaska, someone in the Russian-American company, and possibly in the Winter Palace in St. Petersburg, started selling US gold fields in order to disrupt the financing by the government of Nicholas II, and then Alexander II, of the peasant reform, timely and well-financed implementation of which would undoubtedly prevent the February 1917 revolution and catastrophic loss of the population by historical Russia in the 20th century.

  70. pequiste October 19, 2017 at 12:27 pm #

    A yuge CFN milestone today – – A toast to our host!

    Best wishes to JIm Kunstler for a most happy, healthy birthday and many, many more:


    (In keeping with this week’s Hollyweird theme)

    Easy on the candles pal.

  71. Janos Skorenzy October 19, 2017 at 3:01 pm #


    Another Voice of Truth rises up to defy the encroaching Darkness.

    • Ol' Scratch October 19, 2017 at 8:28 pm #

      Yes indeed my faithful servant! I could not possibly be more pleased with you!

    • benr October 19, 2017 at 9:14 pm #

      The more the media play at race war nonsense the worse it gets.

  72. FincaInTheMountains October 19, 2017 at 3:02 pm #

    When Putin was asked what he thinks of those who are convinced that it would have been better for Russia if the US president was Hillary Clinton, he replied that when such a thing comes to your mind, you need to make a Sign of Cross, and did exactly that!

    Trump is going to visit the demilitarized zone on the border with North Korea, and Kim Jong Un offered to solve all the issues with the help of rap-battles. Trump said that he was fed up with rap-battles and he wants to play a game of golf with winner takes Seoul.


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  73. janet October 19, 2017 at 3:39 pm #


    The share of US electricity coming from coal fell from 51 percent in 2008 to 31 percent in 2016 — an unprecedented change. Trump said he would stop “Obama’s war on coal” (a nonexistent war)

    The story is economic and it is the same every week. For example, last week, the Texas utility Luminant (owned by Vistra Energy) announced the retirement of two coal plants — Sandow Power Plant and Big Brown Power Plant — by early 2018. The reasoning was simple, and familiar: They just can’t compete with cheap natural gas and renewables. Wind energy capacity could surpass coal capacity in Texas as early as next year.

    The times they are a changin’ … and Trump is powerless to save coal.

    • Ol' Scratch October 19, 2017 at 8:22 pm #

      Ahh, behold our janet, the eternal naive optimist. Of course Trump is powerless to save big coal – and who in the hell would want to anyway?

      As for cheap natural gas and renewables: dream on you young idealistic fool. Your foolish pipe dreams are just so many will-o’-wisps rapidly dissipating into the hot air you expel. I’ll be around to see you again later when all you’re youthful foolishness has properly resolved itself into the cold hard light of middle-aged reality.

      Love and kisses!

  74. Janos Skorenzy October 19, 2017 at 3:55 pm #

    All decent people are offended at the vulgar actions of the Black, Cowboy hat wearing Congress Woman who listened in on a conversation between Trump and a grieving mother – and then made up shit. She is trash.


  75. FincaInTheMountains October 19, 2017 at 4:20 pm #

    European men then and now:


    • Ol' Scratch October 19, 2017 at 8:12 pm #

      LOL! Perhaps European men should take of their skirts and quit worshipping at the altar of US hegemony then, eh? Their immigrant problem would not exist were it not for US/British imperialist meddling in the ME to support their rapidly failing industrial cultures which are responsible for global warming. Oh, but that’s right, the Europeans are long since wed to it too!

      • FincaInTheMountains October 19, 2017 at 8:34 pm #

        “Refugees” from ME are an invasion army filled with militants specially trained to commit terrorist attacks, including at nuclear power plants.

        By the way, I suppose that the last factor was the straw that broke the backs of the capitalist elites and forced them to dump Hillary Clinton during 2016 election.

        • Ol' Scratch October 19, 2017 at 9:17 pm #

          “Refugees” from the ME are largely a CIA trained and funded army intended to do exactly what they’re doing: make western capitalist citizen/sheep afraid enough to turn over their governments lock, stock, and barrell to whatever wolfs in sheep’s clothing government “protectors” who presented themselves as their “saviours.” Job well done!

          When will all this non-sense finally be done? When the final battle between western “civilization” and the rest of the planet earth is finally settled. Wanna know who wins? If you have to ask I can’t tell you. But rest assured, I’ll be right there waiting to mop up the spoils of my final victory!

  76. FincaInTheMountains October 19, 2017 at 7:05 pm #

    Beslan Massacre of the Innocents

    A lot of Russian Special Forces were killed in Beslan.

    Spetsnaz, which usually even a sniper can’t get, ran with two – three kids in their arms, and they were shot in the back together with children.

    Eternal memory to the children of Beslan and the heroes who gave their lives, in order to save at least some of them.


    • FincaInTheMountains October 19, 2017 at 8:53 pm #

      Beslan Massacre of the Innocents – ritual murder of innocent christian children ordered by Western Black Project and personally its head at the time – Hillary Clinton.

      Now it is headed by Angela Merkel and its speaker in US is Condoleezza Rice.

      • benr October 19, 2017 at 9:13 pm #

        Oh please provide proof.
        I can’t stand Hillary and think she is almost Satan but come on really?

        • 100th Avatar October 19, 2017 at 9:39 pm #

          This week the big story in Ukraine was a celebration. The country marked the 25th anniversary of its modern statehood. A quarter century ago, after the Moscow coup failed, Ukraine’s parliament convened an emergency session. And on 24 August 1991, it adopted the Act of Independence.

          Ukrainian Flag in the Verkhovna Rada, August, 23, 1991 //
          Ukrainian Flag in the Verkhovna Rada, August, 23, 1991
          Later in the show we’ll bring you an interview with Serhiy Holovatyi who co-authored the Act. He’ll explain what was happening behind the scenes, and the ideas that shaped the historic moment. And Bohdan Nahaylo, who headed RFE/RL’s Ukrainian Service in 1991. He describes how news of the independence declaration travelled from Ukraine’s parliament to Munich and transmitted on international airwaves.

          A quarter century later, with war on their territory, Ukraine’s leaders feared that the independence celebration might become a target for terrorist acts. So there was a heavy security presence in central Kyiv. But on the actual day the mood was relaxed. Despite the rain, thousands of people came to watch the annual parade. They patiently stood in line to get through the metal detectors that surrounded the main square, the Maidan.

          The parade itself was quite something, unlike anything over the past 24 years. President Poroshenko introduced a new narrative. He placed the emphasis on Ukraine’s 1000 year history, with the 25th anniversary being only the most recent phase. He honoured those who had been killed while defending Ukraine over the centuries, and handed out awards to current heros. Then, relatives of those who have been killed in the past two and a half years opened the parade. Next came rows and rows of soldiers and sailors. They were marching in a new way, not the old Soviet goose step. And dressed in new, Western style uniforms, making a fashion statement to demonstrate the break with the past. The finale was new military equipment. The multiple rocket launchers, self-propelled anti-aircraft mounts, tanks, and other items that I didn’t recognized. As they slowly rolled down the main street Khreshchatyk, the ground shook. The young men driving the equipment had steady and determined looks on their faces as people clapped while they passed. All of Ukraine’s former Presidents were on the main podium. All except fugitive President Victor Yanukovych.

          By afternoon the sun came out, the weather remained lovely for the annual evening concert that I’ll describe later in the show.

          Audio Tapes from Early 2014 Released Documenting Russia’s Involvement in Triggering War in Ukraine

          On Monday Ukraine’s Prosecutor General’s Office released a video that documents Moscow’s direct involvement in triggering events that led to the annexation of Crimea and war in the Donbas. It contains fragments of intercepted phone conversations. One is from February the 28th 2014 between Putin’s official advisor Sergei Glasyev and Russian State Duma deputy Konstantin Zatulin, where they discuss financing unrest in Odesa, Kharkiv, and Crimea. Another is from 6 March 2014. Glazyev is advising Sergei Aksyonov, the man who took over Crimea’s parliament, on the wording for the event that many call the Crimean referendum of 16 March 2014. International media did not report this story widely. Kyiv based German political scientist Andreas Umland believes this is because the tapes have been carefully cut and framed and the original tapes remain unpublished. We’ll post a link to the video on our webpage. Censor.net.ua


          Ukraine’s Interior Ministry reports that more Russian National Guard troops have arrived in the Donbas and heavy shelling continues. Over the past week six soldiers were killed and twenty six wounded.

          Return to Soviet Era Practice of Punitive Psychiatry in Crimea

          More disturbing news came from Crimea over the past few days. On August the 18th Crimean Tatar leader Ilmi Umerov was forcibly taken from a cardiac unit in a regular hospital and transferred to Psychiatric Hospital No. 1 in Simferopol. He was under observation for his heart condition and is diabetic. The Kharkiv Human Rights Group and various Crimean Tatar organizations are reporting that his medication was taken away from him, that initially even his lawyer was not allowed to see him, and that he will be held in the psychiatric hospital for 28 days. During the Soviet era psychiatry was used as a weapon against political opponents. Umerov is facing charges for calling Russia’s actions in Crimea an occupation.

          Energy Efficiency Becomes Easier

          It will now be easier for Ukrainians to install their own energy meters in their homes. The government streamlined the process this week. It has directed the national energy company to inspect these meters within 3-5 days. Many apartment buildings still have a centralized meter system which makes it impossible to accurately measure energy usage in individual apartments. So many people have started installing their own, to keep track of own their energy consumption.

          Focus on Independence Declaration

          To remember the day that Parliament voted on the Act of Independence 25 years ago, Ukraine Calling invited two special guests into studio this week.

          Dyczok: 25 years ago Ukraine declared independence. Since then there are a lot of people who say that it was very easy. The process just sort of happened. Lately Ukraine is fighting for its independence. In our studio we have two very special guests. One who was the co-author of Act of Independence of Ukraine, and the other is a journalist who was covering the events and who actually broke the story from Munich. Mr. Bohdan Nahaylo was then the head of Radio Liberty Radio Free Europe Ukrainian section. Mr. Serhiy Holovatyj was a Member of Parliament and one of the founding members of Rukh. So we have two different perspectives. Thank you very much for joining us.

          Bohdan Nahaylo // Hromadske Radio
          Bohdan Nahaylo
          Mr. Nahaylo, I would like to start with you. You were sitting in Munich and carefully watching what was happening in Ukraine. Radio Liberty was the ideological enemy at that time. How did you have information coming from Ukraine? How you were following the story.

          Nahaylo: In the old days, when it was still very difficult to travel here and when programs would be jammed. It only stopped in November 1988 (as late as that despite so-called glasnost and perestroika). We were monitoring the Soviet Ukrainian press very closely. Americans were running and financing Radio Liberty. Before 1971 it had been financed by CIA but then after 1971 it was run by bi-partisan commission. There was a phenomenal apparatus for gathering information and monitoring. The main radio and TV broadcasts would be monitored on a regular basis. In some cases, when we already had video, we could see these programs. But before that the transcripts would be made for us overnight. In fact, when I would come to work in the morning I would already know what Radio Kiev had been saying or what was on program Vremia the night before. [Vremia was all-Soviet evening TV news show]. I’ll give you an example of how sophisticated it was. The Soviet Union had 11 time zones. A huge country. But to make sure the first page of Pravda in Vladivostok was the same as in Kaliningrad, early editions were sent by satellite to Vladivostok, for example. The Americans would pick this up so we would know what would be on the first page of Pravda that morning and prepare our programs and counterarguments.

          Dyczok: However, when it was very breaking news like the emergency session of the parliament on the 24 of August 1991 you were telling us. How did you follow that story because that was a very difficult one?

          Nahaylo: Marto, you are jumping ahead. A lot changed between 1988 and 1991. First of all, you had the occurrence of these informal groups. You had a burgeoning civil society who had their own independent press, and who were courageous enough to spread information, and to try to contact us via telephone. It was very difficult. Certainly by 1989 -1990 we already had stringers in Kyiv, in L’viv reporting by telephone, sending us faxes. So it became much more sophisticated operation. I always emphasize for those younger people who are now so used to social media that we were the Twitter and Facebook of that time. We were the ones who were telling the people in Donets’k what’s happening in L’viv, Odesa, Chernhiv, and integrating the nation. Nation not in a political sense.

          But you asked me what happened on that very memorable for me day. It was a Saturday and it was an extraordinary session of the Ukrainian Parliament. This was two days after the collapse of the “putch” attempt in Moscow. Let’s remember those dramatic days. Orest Subtelny, a renowned historian from Toronto, said before his death in an interview that when he came here to oversee the publication of the Ukrainian edition of his History of Ukraine. That week when he called his editors here they said, “What book are you talking about? There is no such book being prepared.” People were very frightened, and for a few days even that theme disappeared from the radar screen. But once that trauma had subsided and once it was clear that the putchists had failed, here [in Kyiv] expectations were following along the lines of what Yeltsin was doing in Moscow, that perhaps the Communist Party would be banned. That would be already a major achievement. But it was not clear by any means that the issue of Ukraine’s status (it was supposedly a sovereign state already by a former declaration) but it would now proceed to declare itself independent state. As director, I brought in the staff on Saturday. Usually we prepared programs in advance. But I said that I felt something important was going to happen. So all day we were sitting at our desks, waiting for news from Kyiv. from our correspondents Serhiy Naboka, Svitlana Riaboshapka and Leonid Miliavsky. At 6 pm Kyiv time, 5 pm Munich time, we were supposed to go live with a broadcast of international news. But at ten to five there were still no news. So I got to the phone to our correspondents in Kyiv and Svitlana Riaboshapka picked up the phone. She said “Pane Bohdane, Kravchuk, the Speaker of the Parliament, is putting the act declaring Ukraine’s independence to the vote.” I said “Come on, this can’t be true.” She said “No, listen for yourself,” and she took the phone receiver, held it to the TV in Kiev. I am listening over the phone in Munich to Kravchuk reading the text and I hear cheers and applause. I realise something dramatic had happened. My response as a director was “What do I do?” Do I run with that news? Do I believe what my ears and my correspondents have told me? Or do I play it safe and wait an hour until everybody else has broadcasted. I ran to the news booth. The red lamp was already on saying “No entry.” But I had the prerogative of going in, as the director. My colleague Vasyl Darchuk was supposed to read the international news in 2-3 minutes and I scribbled a note and passed it to him, “According to preliminary information Ukrainian Rada or Supreme Soviet has just declared…”

          Holovatyi: Supreme Soviet…

          Nahaylo: Thank you, Serhiy. He is a legal specialist and was there.

          …and I said “Read this out.” He put his finger to his head to show that I am crazy through the glass. . I said “Read it or you will get into trouble.” He pointed to his throat as if somebody is going to slit his throat. “You know what it means if I read this out.” I said “yes, you lose your head if you don’t.” So he went ahead, followed my instructions and at 6 pm Kiev time we were the first to broadcast the news. We beat Ukrinform, TASS, AP, Reuters… Why was that important? Because it was a Saturday and even though there was a relief after the failure of the putch a lot of people were at their dachas [cottages]. They had not been glued to their TV sets watching what’s happening in the Verkhovna Rada. We were the first to bring that news abroad. Millions of people were listening to us. One footnote: we had to celebrate. Of course the canteen in Radio Europe in Munich was run by Germans. The store was closed at 5 pm. I had to bang on the door saying “Ukraine has declared its independence, please give us some champagne!” They said “No, it’s 5 o’clock”. I said “History is being made in front of your eyes. Do you want to be a part of history or you will be bores?” So they opened the store, gave us champagne and we drank to Ukraine’s independence. Now its 25 years ago and that is why it’s so special.

          Dyczok: Mr. Nahaylo broke the story of Ukraine’s independence to the world. Serhiy Holovaty was one of the people that made it happen. Mr. Holovaty, please tell us how this Act of Independence was prepared? You were one of the authors. We have in studio with us the original draft.

          Holovatyi: We have to go back to those days in renewing our memory of the composition of Rada.

          Dyczok: Ukrainian Parliament at that time …

          Nahaylo: Protoparliament…

          Holovatyi: The composition of the Supreme Soviet of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. It was not yet Rada. It was Supreme Soviet. 450 members. Among them not more than 110 those who were anti-Communists.

          Dyczok: Democrats.

          Serhiy Holovatyj and the origial copy of Act of Independence // Marta Dyczok/Hromadske Radio
          Serhiy Holovatyj and the origial copy of Act of Independence
          Holovatyi: Democrats formed an informal alliance which was called Narodna Rada, or Peoples Rada, or Peoples Council. It means that less than a quarter of the MPs were in favour of independence. All the rest were Orthodox communists, members of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Certainly, when the coup occurred in Moscow on the 19th of August, it was not clear what was going on then. I was in Russia that day, because it was vacation time for MPs in August. Some of us were on holidays in a resort area near Rostov-on-Don – Mineralnye Vody, a resort for all MPs from all over the Soviet Union. There were also MPs from the republics and Moscow. When we arrived for breakfast, we heard from radio about the coup. Immediately we started to find a way how to get out to Ukraine. It was almost martial law. Everything was blocked. It took about one day to come to Kyiv by plane, the only plane that was allowed to take off from Rostov-on-Don to Kyiv and Moscow, was that plane registered at Boryspil airport. That is why even MPs from Moscow (members of the Supreme Soviet of USSR) could not get directly to Moscow. It was blocked by military. The captain on the board was from Kyiv, from Boryspil. That’s why we were lucky to be back in Kyiv around 10 or even 11 pm on the 19th. Immediately with our luggage we came to the building of the Supreme Soviet and joined the group that demanded to convene an extraordinary session. But the Speaker of the Supreme Soviet Leonid Kravchuk was really hesitating. He did not do that on the 19th, 20th, or 21st. He still was waiting for…

          Dyczok: the end,

          Holovatyi: what direction events would take place. And only after it was clear that the coup is failing, he convened the extra session. The members of Peoples Council met in the House of the Writers Union. There was a special meeting of democratic block to work out the plan. According to the unanimously adopted scenario we drafted the agenda for this extraordinary session. The agenda consisted of 12 points.

          Dyczok: That’s a big agenda…

          Holovatyi: Number one was the resolution on banning the Communist party. Number two was de-communziation or lustration – banning possibility for the former Communist bureaucrats, apparatchiks, nomenklatura to take any positions in the offices of the government. Possibly proclaim independent Ukraine. Then number 3, denationalization of the property of the Communist party and making it the property of the people. The last item, as I would say the culmination, the crowning point, is proclaiming independence of new Ukraine as already decommunized, already democratic and so and so on. That what was be the last point. That was the agreement or the decision of Narodna Rada. It was adopted on the 22nd of August and was decided that Narodna Rada will prepare the draft of all these documents. We had only one day – the 23rd?—?to do it one day and it was done. Then we met on the 23rd in the evening in …

          Dyczok: In the Writers Union building?

          Holovatyi: No, already in the Parliament. We had already discussed the prepared drafts and the scenario was supposed to be like this. When we came on the 24th the plenary meeting was opened. The first secretary of the Communist Party, Mr. Hurenko, was admitted, allowed to speak on behalf of the communists, on what they have done in Moscow and what is their line in Kyiv.

          Nahaylo: Sorry to interrupt you. In my book Ukrainian Resurgence, one of the photos that I went to great trouble to find is of Hurenko raising his hand. Can you imagine the First Party Secretary asking to be given the right to speak? How the things had changed?

          Holovatyi: Exactly. So he was allowed to speak. In short, finally we came to the moment when we had to start to adopt the drafts, the agenda, the documents according to our plan. However, the Speaker of the Parliament Mr. Kravchuk suddenly announced that the floor is given to member of Rada of the Supreme Soviet Mr. Yavorivs’kyi for announcing the Act of Independence.

          Dyczok: Mr Yavorivs’kyi was a member of Rukh.

          Holovatyi: Exactly. He was a member of the Presidium which was at that time the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet (like the Politbureau of the Supreme Soviet). And it became clear that during the night there was a special agreement between the Presidium and the Speaker that they will not follow our scenario and that they will only vote for one issue?—?for proclaiming independence. Only this. As they were afraid if they put the scenario like we have planned, we could fail to proclaim independence because the communists were majority. Super majority. 200 people a super majority.

          Nahaylo: Mr. Lukianenko said a few days ago that he suspects that Yavorivs’kyi was being secretly prepared as a possible leader if Kravchuk were to be removed and he would be acceptable to the communists.

          Holovatyi: I don’t know about that. But I remember Lukianenko, who was authorized by Rada to pronounce that document, was standing in front of me. I was sitting in the first row, so he was standing in front of me with this sheet of paper which was already written with text which had to be voted, but suddenly Kravchuk called for Yavorivs’kyi and he [Yavorivs’kyi] just came and pulled out this sheet of paper from Lukianenko and Lukianenko started to cry. Because that was a betrayal, something unexpected. Lukianenko was crying. His tears were coming out of his eyes.

          Nahaylo: It was also his birthday.


  77. 100th Avatar October 19, 2017 at 9:43 pm #

    ya dolzhen imet’ posledneye slovo v kazhdom soobshchenii v bloge, poetomu ya otpravlyayu bessmyslennuyu rossiyskuyu istoriyu. YA – to, chto psikhicheskoye zabolevaniye vyglyadit v pechati

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  78. FincaInTheMountains October 19, 2017 at 10:27 pm #

    I do not understand what this shit-eater from Avatar Universe is so crazy about.

  79. FincaInTheMountains October 19, 2017 at 10:49 pm #

    Oh please provide proof.
    I can’t stand Hillary and think she is almost Satan but come on really?
    == benr

    “The Dead Zone” is a movie about me and Hillary Clinton, only I’m far from the hero of Christopher Walken, and I was elementary chicken-shit scared when I realized who she is, and the dead zone turned on for me for a while on September 11, 2001.



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