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      An anxious silence falls over the land this Memorial Day as we discern increasingly that those we put in charge of this shape-shifting thing called the public interest are running out of trips to lay on the people. Something grotesque is revealing itself: a bankruptcy not just of money but of national purpose, meaning, and legitimacy. You realize this day, with a breaking heart, that your country has been stolen by psychopaths.

     Brace for impact. We’re already off the road and now it’s only a matter of how this vehicle comes to a stop in the ditch. Then, it’s a question of how each of us emerges from the smoldering wreckage. The main thing, though, is clear to everyone: What we were riding in is no more. We’re out there stumbling around in the dark, in shock, trying desperately to assess our whereabouts and what has happened to us.

     Now, the trouble with being ruled by psychopaths is that they don’t care about other people. They are actually incapable of imagining the lives of others, especially the fact that these others care about each other, and what happens to them. You may have noticed, for instance, that the psychopath Senator Lindsay Graham (R-SC) went to Ukraine last week and declared, “Russians are dying. We have never spent money so well.” Only a couple of months ago, he called for the assassination of Vladimir Putin. He stopped short of dissing Mr. Putin’s mother.

     Ukraine, of course, is a lost cause, and it was never a good cause in the first place. Contrary to Lindsay Graham’s untoward utterance, American money has killed far more Ukrainians than Russians. He overlooked this unappetizing tidbit because he doesn’t care about the Ukrainians, for whose sake our “folks” in charge supposedly undertook this clusterfuck. Lindsay Graham also may not have noticed that our country is collapsing and Russia is not. That must be because Lindsay Graham does not care about Americans, either.

     As for our money, it looks like most of the rest of the world — the nations that still produce things of value — are so turned-off by American pathocracy that they are seeking every way possible to stop using our money in international trade settlements. That money, our dollar, became the world’s reserve currency because our country ended up on top in the previous world war and for the better part of a century afterward dominated the planet militarily. Naturally, as our leadership turned more pathological and pathocratic, so did our military endeavors — until lately they amount to little more than just smashing up other countries to show we can do it.

      These other countries must wonder which is the next place that America will try to smash up? Two of these other countries, Russia and China, are coming around to the realization that they are possibly better equipped to do the smashing than America is. There is no indication that our pathocracy recognizes that the next smash-up may be World War Three, and that we may not emerge from it victorious.

      Hence, our anxiety this Memorial Day as we reflect on America’s military exploits generally, and must perforce contemplate our less-than-glorious prospects ahead. How will our pathocrat neo-con strategists greet the debacle of our failure in Ukraine?  Denial and spin, for sure. But will they scramble to dream up yet another misadventure as reckless and absurd? You have good reason to be concerned.

     Pathocracy always marches toward totalitarianism because pathocrats can’t imagine a management of public affairs by a people who care about each other (and their country). Therefore, everyone must be subject to incessant coercion and punishment, especially for their thoughts (and especially for thoughts of opposition to pathocracy). However, there are certainly more people who care about each other than there are psychopaths in America. I’m not a big fan of quantification but, for the record, psychiatric meta-analysis estimates that 1.2 to 4.5 percent of the population displays psychopathic personality disorders.

      How that tiny fraction of the citizenry came to take charge of our affairs is surely the big mystery of the moment. My guess is that under conditions of economic-social-and-political collapse, the people who care about each other become preoccupied with their mutual caretaking duties while the psychopaths, unburdened by such cares, can go about other business — such as plunder, murder, and the sowing of chaos.

      Sometimes in history, the pathocrats are simply overthrown by the majority of humans with functioning emotional equipment. It’s not easy, though, because in most other places around the world, the pathocracy become the sole owners of the guns and have armies and police at their disposal to put down revolts. That’s not quite exactly the case here in the USA with our Second Amendment to the Constitution. The putative president, “Joe Biden,” cracked some time ago that anyone seeking to oppose him better bring some F-15 fighter planes to get the job done. As the good book says: “Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.”

      This Memorial Day is the pregnant moment before history gives birth to new and astounding events. Everyone senses it. The rough beasts are out there slouching across the fruited plain. Attend to your duties courageously, as those before us did, who we remember today.


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807 Responses to “Memorial Service”

  1. Mister Roboto May 29, 2023 at 9:39 am #

    Liberalism was never about freedom, but nurtured a profound desire to change humanity above all other aspects. This rendered it a willing ally of tyrants promising to do the dirty work of such a project.

    It hurt a lot to be forced to realize this was and is essentially true. I suppose I would describe what I am now as a “liberal-tarian”, which you might conceptualize as the lefty-ish counterpart of “Republi-tarians”.

  2. malthuss May 29, 2023 at 9:39 am #

    Pathocracy

    Definition of Pathocracy | The Pathocracy Blog
    Definition: pathocracy (n). A system of government created by a small pathological minority

    • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 10:18 am #

      Here’s something I came across about communism. Of course, whenever communism is mentioned, meaningless arguments start and people start hurling the term “fascist” around, but as the quote states, it is all window dressing.

      “Reminder: Communism is when ugly deformed freaks make it illegal to be normal then rob and/or kill all successful people out of petty resentment and cruelty. The ideology is all just window dressing.”

      https://twitter.com/WelsonWarlock/status/1660811856284651520?s=20

      • SomeoneInAsia May 29, 2023 at 11:23 am #

        Yup, that sounds about right. I always thought Xi Jinping is a fat, ugly, deformed freak. And psychopathic to boot as well. Face in the shape of a near-perfect circle, excessively fleshy cheeks coupled with slitty eyes, rosebud mouth and flat splayed nose like a doorknob… I’m glad I don’t have his looks. I’m way more handsome, trust me.

        • Q. Shtik May 29, 2023 at 2:02 pm #

          And psychopathic to boot as well. – SomeoneInAsia

          =========

          Someone, it appears to me, in the words of the above sentence that I’ve bolded, that you have said the same thing twice using different words. Now, if you desired to say the same thing four times using different words I would suggest the following:

          And psychopathic to boot as well also on top of it.

          Yes, Someone, I’m being a smart-ass. I could have simply suggested that you avoid unnecessary keystrokes that add nothing by ending the sentence with “to boot.”

          • Night Owl May 29, 2023 at 4:34 pm #

            You aren’t being a smart ass, because you aren’t smart, Q.

          • WilliamShatnersPants June 1, 2023 at 7:01 pm #

            Q, I’m constantly surprised at how many ‘grocer’s apostrophes’ you let by without comment.

        • canuk May 31, 2023 at 9:37 am #

          China is not Communist; have you been asleep for 30 years?

      • malthuss May 29, 2023 at 11:26 am #

        Stalins body is still on display?

      • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 12:36 pm #

        “Liberalism is Communism’s pimping little sister.”

        Commander Rockwell

        Jarek: In other words, Communism is Liberalism that has succeeded. Thus Paula’s devotion to Stalin as one who was willing to do what needed to be done. But she denies he did anything wrong. She seems to really believe it at this point, though it probably started out as the classic deception to others. Most old Commies get like this.

    • King Islander May 29, 2023 at 10:54 pm #

      I was thinking it meant ruled by a pathetic minority. Sen. Lindsay is well described as both pathetic and pathological.

      • C.O.Jones May 30, 2023 at 9:09 am #

        I agree, King Islander – that’s why should Trump re-gain the ‘residency, his first move will be to appoint Sen. Linthy to the post of Secretary of Defense.

        Add narcissistic to pathetic and pathological and it’s a fairly complete assessment.

        I see the course of events as something like: a miracle of voting reform installs TeeRump in the office he covets -> Sen. Linthy appointed SecDef -> Unveiled, unmasked war against Russia accelerates while an oblivious TeeRump is perched on his golden toilet tweeting about his success -> Covert war against Iran is ramped up -> Russia, China and Iran join forces to devastate the high-heeled US military and the double digit IQ US populace -> TeeRump claims the epic losses are a result of a “terrible, terrible witch-hunt by terrible, terrible people who really are terrible. So terrible.” -> TeeRump moves to repeal the 22nd amendment facilitating a third term for himself. -> The final flushing sound we hear is our country going down the golden toilet.

        What did I leave out?

        • happiface May 31, 2023 at 12:15 pm #

          Jones, your pathetic- I saw you floating in my toilet this morning

          • C.O.Jones May 31, 2023 at 12:29 pm #

            internet bravery on your part happiface. You’re a determined keyboard warrior. You wouldn’t care to say that to my face, now would you? No, you wouldn’t.

            Your = possessive
            You’re = contraction for you are.

            Internet brave and barely literate, there happiface. Pull your head out of the golden backside and think.

        • FGB3 May 31, 2023 at 1:08 pm #

          that there will be no voting reform, no more TeeRump in office, etc.

          • C.O.Jones May 31, 2023 at 2:11 pm #

            That’s really the tell, isn’t it FGB3?

            Anyone old enough to remember “hanging chads” knows the voting system has been corrupted for decades. When old man Bush looked at the camera on election night and said “They didn’t count the votes right – they need to go back and count ’em again and get it RIGHT this time!” I stood up and pointed at the TV and said “We just had a coup!” After calling the election for Al Gore, Dumbya was selected ‘preznit’ and eventually the republicans went to court to have the vote counting stopped so we could get on with 9/11.

            There was a huge delay the night Hillary lost and was too drunk to come out and concede – sent Podesta out to do it. They severely underestimated the margin of Trump’s win and couldn’t figure out a way to compensate for the gap to affect the fix.

            I saw the videos of Ruby Freeman and her daughter rolling out suitcases full of unfolded ballots and running them thru the tabulating machines in Atlanta after the precinct was closed due to a “water main break.” They jammed a roll of toilet paper in the crapper and flushed until water spilled onto the floor, declared an emergency and closed the facility but “counting” continued with no observation except for the cameras. They had enough ballots to compensate for any size gap and more “people” voted for Biden than even for Obamination.

            Trump was correct, the election was rigged but he was too inept to get the evidence heard even by the supreme court justices he appointed.

            One might think any elected person would introduce voting reform legislation mandating:
            1. paper ballots
            2. voter id
            3. ballots counted the night of the election

            The fact that no elected person has introduced a bill to mandate these simple, easy to implement reforms – ya know – go back to the way it was done before – it the biggest tell of all.

            Until and unless we change the voting system, we have no election. Voting is a charade. If you think Trump is bright enough to figure this out then the fact that he hasn’t twisted enough arms to get this reform done is evidence that he’s not serious about holding office and is just playing the role of distraction.

  3. teddyboy46 May 29, 2023 at 9:41 am #

    The Baby Boomers are a lucky generation indeed. We stand on the threshold of the biggest turning point in the history of human existence.

    A.I. & A.G.I will be sold as our servant but will very soon become our master. And it will be a harsh master.

    But us Baby Boomers will not be around to see the worst of it and we are the last generation to remember the Old World. That is the world before 24/7 big screen TV & internet programming Us.

    • Mister Roboto May 29, 2023 at 9:57 am #

      Oh, we Gen-Xers have some memory of the remnant of the old world. Not that this will benefit us in any significant way. I remember seeing a tomato plant spring up through the cracks in the outside sidewalk of an Italian restaurant where I worked in late summer back in the nineties. My co-worker commented that this plant sprung up at exactly the wrong time for it to be able to bear any fruit, and so I dubbed it “the Gen-X tomato-plant”.

      • Night Owl May 29, 2023 at 4:35 pm #

        I am Gen-X myself, and this analogy is pretty good, TBH.

    • Woodchuck May 29, 2023 at 10:23 am #

      For some reason, nearly everyone I know assumes that electricity will always be available no matter what. It will be around us always just as we will always have sunlight and rain. I’m reminded of this each time the power goes out and I absent mindedly try turning lights on anyway because I’m “hardwired” now to reflexively and automatically assume that light in a room always arrives via a flip of the switch.

      Nope. AI and all the other electronic crapola around us will vanish after the electric grid becomes unreliable. With grid down situations and people forced to grow some of their own food and be self sufficient – that “Old World” of tv addiction and easy livin’ will be gone. If our leaders like Graham or Biden do succeed in inspiring Russia to detonate some EMP nukes over our heads before long, all of the 24/7 tv and internet will be history. Along with CFN I might add. Instead of “clusterfuck nation” it will be “totally fucked nation”.

      • Paula D May 29, 2023 at 10:35 am #

        Yesterday I went out to weed and the ground was hard and cracked. It has only been a week since it rained.

        People had better hope their water still comes put when they turn on the faucet or hose, or forget all that “grow your own food” stuff.

        • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 11:25 am #

          I had relatives that ran a well drilling business back in the day. I was researching the energy sources for professional well drilling and I believe they probably used a steam engine.

          Imagine the labor-intensiveness of using horses in drilling?

          “The power sources of well drilling changed greatly over time. Initially, all wells were manually dug or drilled. The first wells to be powered by an outside source were powered by horses that walked on a circular track. In the 1890s, steam power began being used in all water well drilling platforms and remained the primary power source for the next 50 years until the invention of the internal combustion engine. When the internal combustion engine was applied to water well drilling, it made tools portable and more energy efficient in the 20th and 21st centuries.”

          https://classroom.synonym.com/history-of-water-well-drilling-12081114.html

          • Lyndy33 May 29, 2023 at 12:28 pm #

            Steam is not to be underrated. I remember steam engine trains going through our town at 100 mph. One whistle just before they got there and … gone. circa 1939.

          • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 12:36 pm #

            Lyndy, what is it about a train whistle at night?

            The sound of traffic on the highway or a plane going overhead doesn’t do it, whatver it is.

          • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 12:45 pm #

            Every car should have a steam engine, requiring two people to operate, one to drive and one to stoke.

          • tully May 29, 2023 at 6:38 pm #

            Lyndy33, your comment made me think of my paternal grandfather and dad, who were running steam locomotives in the 1930s. Grandpa was an engineer and dad a fireman for Frisco. Since my father was married, had a child and working for the railroad, he was 31 when he finally got drafted in WWII.

            The old steam engines were gone by the time I was a kid, but still enough trains running to hear plenty of whistles. For a couple years, we lived in the country and a track ran at the back side of our property. In the evening around six, a southbound train would pass through. During the summer I would hear the approaching whistle, run out back and wave at the train; the engineer would wave back. Fun times. 🙂 There is something special about train whistles.

            They are certainly more pleasant than freeway noise.

        • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 12:43 pm #

          When I lived in Portland, I was near the site where a Black thug had been killed by the police. They used to have memorial services in the parking lot from time to time. The day after one such, I saw a White and a Black girl putting in a few flowers along the side of the parking lot. The girls looked up, hoping for positive attention for their virtue signaling, but I ignored them.

          But they didn’t come back to water them, and there is typically little or no rain in Portland during the Summer. The plants were dead within three days. How fitting.

          • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 1:22 pm #

            That’s what I’ve been seeing here. We’ve had a dearth of rain, and people planted flowers and grass around about Mother’s Day, and then just left them.

      • K-Chien May 29, 2023 at 11:07 am #

        In a nation with 300+ million people living on a land that can support 20 million hunter gatherers, things will get dicey when da power goes out.

        Considering that most of the 300+ people don’t own a piece of land large enough to feed one rabbit, self sufficiency could be a challenge.

        Accounting for the fact that most of the 300+ million are so ignorant about farmin, that they actually think they might be able to do it means success shall be rare. It is a Dunning Kruger situation X 10!

        And with You Tube a thing of the past, there won’t be videos to watch about farmin. Not that it would do any good without seeds and land and ………………………….

        The word clusterfuck comes to mind. A titanic disaster.

        • malthuss May 29, 2023 at 11:24 am #

          380 million?
          the land can produce much.

          but can this be done without tractors and gas?

          • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 11:27 am #

            That’s where slaves come in handy. Serfs, peasants, slaves.

          • malthuss May 29, 2023 at 11:36 am #

            Beryl..but slaves need food. can a slave produce much more than the slave consumes?

          • Lyndy33 May 29, 2023 at 12:37 pm #

            When the first white explorers arrived in the Reno NV area they estimated there were 3000 Indians between Lake Tahoe and the Pine Nut Mountains to the east. Now there are over a million people in the same high desert area. So without electricity 997,000 will leave or die.

          • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 12:47 pm #

            Different POVs on that, Malthuss

            “More than 50 years ago, historian William Postell (1951) held that southern plan-tation owners had a stake in providing care for slaves. As long as the slaves were economically productive, Postell concluded, overseers and plantation owners viewed them as valuable commodities that needed to be fed, clothed, and receive medical care.

            “Gibbs et al. (1980) noted that historical documents indicate that plantation owners had two major concerns in owning slaves—their health and their management, which included the adequate provision of food. In a similar vein, Savitt (1978) reported that

            Slave Nutrition 11 some owners generally tried to clean up slave living areas, regulate food, and vaccinate the slaves.

            However, since Postell, there has been an ongoing debate about how well slaves were cared for and fed. It is well established that some owners were negligent, and just how much owners were willing to invest in the care and provision of food to slaves differed.”

            https://1library.net/article/slave-nutrition-what-the-slaves-ate.zl2mp1rq

            They have a bugs and fake meat diet planned for all of us, slaves or not.

            Come to think of it, maybe that’s what the regular shots of the not-a-vaccine are for- so our immune systems won’t react to the bug diet.

            They don’t care if this doesn’t work and we die.

            They didn’t care if we died during the scamdemic, did they?

            That reminds me, here is some more info indicating that the decision to use ventilators was not a benign one:

            The Great COVID Ventilator Death Cover-up

            Tens of thousands of Americans died after being placed on mechanical ventilators in spring 2020. It’s long past time we got real answers as to how many were killed this way.

            https://www.michaelpsenger.com/p/the-great-covid-ventilator-death

          • Woodchuck May 29, 2023 at 12:47 pm #

            “the land can produce much”.

            Yes, it most certainly can. During WWII those Victory Gardens provided something like 40% of our entire food supply. Unlike today, people in the 40’s knew how to do this and children everywhere learned how to run a veggie garden as part of their household chores. As a kid, my grandma paid me to pull weeds and spend hours performing boring chores using hoes and rakes. I also got paid for mowing and landscaping. That’s how I got money to go downtown on weekends and watch a movie, go to a soda fountain, or hang out in a pool hall. But that was 70 years ago – the good old days when life made sense and many people hadn’t yet burned all their bridges behind them.

            As for growing your own food, nearly everyone regards this as a hobby, not a necessity. I’ve had people tell me if there are food shortages they’ll cross that bridge when they get there. And they get pissed at me when I reply that there won’t be any bridges and they just might not be able to get across.

          • Cactus Girl May 29, 2023 at 1:12 pm #

            @malthuss: “can this be done without tractors and gas?”

            Nope. Not to mention all the chemicals made out of oil that are sprayed all over our “food” that will no longer be available. Oh, and there’s the annoying little problem of pumping water out of very depleted aquifers in the midwest and California. And transporting the food.

            A hard rain’s gonna fall.

          • tahoe1780 May 29, 2023 at 9:14 pm #

            and Haber Bosch fertilizer?

        • Paula D May 29, 2023 at 11:55 am #

          K-Chien- seeds and land and water. Also, sunlight and good soil.

        • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 12:46 pm #

          Tell them about the Lahar that may take out hundreds of thousands of people as it roars down Mt Ranier and heads towards the sea.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 12:52 pm #

          What will save us in such a scenario is, for the most part, Critical Race Theory and Intersectionality. The Woke have our backs. Let’s have theirs.

          • K-Chien May 30, 2023 at 3:55 am #

            If critical race theory had nutritional value it would give you diabetes.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 9:06 am #

            At best.

        • MontanaMan May 31, 2023 at 9:17 am #

          I don’t know why you say that about YouTube. You can go on there right now and watch all kind of videos pertaining to learning how to grow various foods.

      • DrTomSchmidt May 29, 2023 at 11:16 am #

        A few solar panels and a decent backup battery ought to last 10-20 years. I don’t need most of the electronics I keep plugged in right now. Most important is refrigeration and the pump for the hot water heating system in the winter.

        Before electricity fails entirely it will become like Sout Africa: intermittent, but available.people will learn to use electricity while it is available; with solar, that will be during the day. Night will be run with rechargeable LED lanterns. What we will have to get used to is a society where electricity is intermittent and we need to be in touch with when it is available.

        That won’t be like today but it will be easier than pre-electricity.

        • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 11:30 am #

          Wait until your neighbor wants to charge his car when you need electricity.

          • Islander May 29, 2023 at 1:37 pm #

            Beryl, are you suggesting that the neighbor will steal Ddr. Schmidt’s juice that he gets from his solar and diesel backup?

          • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 1:51 pm #

            No Islander, I mean communities experiencing intermittent power may not like it when someone appears to be hogging it.

            I remember being in a gas line back in the 70s, behind a big truck.

            There were rumblings of discontent.

          • Islander May 29, 2023 at 2:25 pm #

            Do you mean that the community will think that those who have stand-alone systems will not want the latter to use any of the intermittent juice?

          • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 2:58 pm #

            No. I didn’t mean the doctor’s system.

            I meant that if people only had power during certain hours, it won’t work too well alongside the push to electric vehicles.

          • Islander May 29, 2023 at 3:45 pm #

            “I meant that if people only had power during certain hours, it won’t work too well alongside the push to electric vehicles.”

            Aren’t we getting a foretaste of this in CA?

            Where the system already now simply can’t accommodate EVs?

            Nuclear Now!!

        • bill7424 May 29, 2023 at 11:50 am #

          When things go down in the Great Collapse (and there will be one) we will just have to science the shit out of everything like Matt Damon did in the Martian.

        • Yirgach May 29, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

          Actually the output of solar panels degrades about 5% per year, if they get dusty add another 5% loss. If you live above 40N then output drops by 20% of the nameplate capacity. And when the sun don’t shine, it drops by 100%… Other auxiliary equipment like inverters and batteries need replacement at about 12-15 years. The solar panels themselves contain toxic heavy metals and currently cannot be recycled while most are made by low paid laborers (slaves) in China.

          There is no reason why intermittent power should occur in any Western country. Germany committed economic suicide by shutting down their nukes and coal plants. They are starting to reopen the coal plants and seriously thinking about nukes once again. The country is in a race to provide power to industry before the jobs leave forever.

          • Night Owl May 29, 2023 at 4:36 pm #

            Solar panels are one of the biggest frauds in human history.

            Cost to purchase and install is ridiculous, and they usually crap out after 7 years.

        • Bilejones May 29, 2023 at 6:10 pm #

          You might want to check Kunstler’s experience with solar and batteries.

          You might not be so blasé.

        • tully May 29, 2023 at 6:47 pm #

          I’d like to keep enough juice for fans. AC will be long gone, but people used to be happy just to have ceiling and attic/window fans.

      • draupnir May 29, 2023 at 11:36 am #

        A friend of mine married a South African gentlemen and moved there about thirty years back. We still exchange Christmas cards. The country can no longer provide 24/7 electricity to it’s populace, and for some time they have lived with lengthly rolling blackouts on a daily basis, often several times a day, of variable duration. They call it “load shedding”. I believe that sort of thing is common around the world. Even here, California has difficulting keeping up with demand in the hotter months. I believe it is only a matter of time before this becomes nation-wide. In South Africa, winter has now settled in. She believes they have enough wood laid by to get through it, but I’m thinking one of these days, in the not-so-distant future, the power is going to go out and never come back on again. They are surrounded there by people who hate them, with good reason, and I worry about her.

        • Yirgach May 29, 2023 at 12:45 pm #

          Until Mandela died, South Africa had no electrical load shedding or water shortage problems. While much of the country has no electrical grid, the cities all had their own power plants and water supply. But the experienced mangers were replaced with crony hires and drove the systems into the ground through mismanagement and greed. The entire country is in shambles now and the cities are full of drugs and crime. SA is, like most of Africa, a tribal nation and the hate and envy extends to anyone who is not of your tribe. It is another Zimbabwe in the making.

        • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 12:49 pm #

          With good reason? Whites gave them everything they ever had. The fools killed the goose that lays the golden egg.

          “I would rather rule in Hell than serve Heaven.”

          Milton’s Lucifer

          • draupnir May 29, 2023 at 1:18 pm #

            Just like you, they prefer their own and may actively hate the other. It’s a human ccharacteristic to prefer to reign in Hell.

          • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 2:20 pm #

            Yes. we’re the same in that. But they seek to live with us and not us with them. That’s because we create civilization and they do not. That’s the difference.

            Why we let them is the mystery. Like your saying, “with good reason”.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 9:58 am #

          Africa has been thrown through the woodchipper by colonization.

      • SomeoneInAsia May 29, 2023 at 11:41 am #

        Look at the bright side. As the Long Emergency sets in, all the pathocracies around the world, above all the CCP (read: Callous, Cannibalistic Psychopaths), will become so severely crippled they will no longer be able to impose their will on their people or on anything anymore. The means to do so will no longer be there. Then the people will finally be able to settle accounts with them (the pathocrats). They can go hide in their underground bunkers, of course, but after at most a couple years the bunkers will become their mausoleums.

        • bill7424 May 29, 2023 at 11:58 am #

          And when the $ dollar tanks like the Mark did back in the 30s all the rich people who haven’t got their assets in precious metals or some other high value currency will be shit out of luck just like the rest of us hoi polloi.

          • cbeard May 29, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

            You cannot eat and drink precious metals. Picture this scenario. World war, economic collapse, disease on a scale never before seen. Someone with a truck load of gold wants to trade some of it for some of your truck load of food, water, ammo etc. You can’t eat gold. You can’t drink it. You can’t shoot it for self defense of you and your family. My point is that high value currency will not exist. Barter will be your best bet and then that won’t last forever either. You will need to be affiliated with a like minded group of people. Good fucking luck with that. Human nature sucks. It will be every man for himself more than likely.

          • mrs_saj May 29, 2023 at 7:06 pm #

            bill7424 and cbeard,

            I still believe diversification is the key. I’m trying to allocate resources across all asset classes. And I include manual skills as an asset class as well.

            I don’t want to be a cheerleader for any one thing. And we all know gold bugs or bitcoin fanatics or gun nuts, as well as peaceniks who think no one will come and take their unguarded vegetables. These people lose perspective because they’ve put all their eggs in one basket and therefore their survival now depends on their being right.

            The truth is it’s all of the above and more.

          • badberries May 29, 2023 at 9:03 pm #

            bill74, don’t forget to “lay in” a couple hundred pounds of rolling tobacco and papers to roll. People will give up a lot of things before they give up their habits.

      • and let live May 29, 2023 at 12:18 pm #

        A good read about life after “the end” is Robert Harris’ The Second Sleep. Often, it occurs to me that the only way out of this insanity will be when the electricity dies in a catastrophic event along with our civilization. But being human, should some survive, it is likely our species will unfailingly find the way back.

        • Daddyotis May 29, 2023 at 2:30 pm #

          Thank you for the book suggestion. Just bought a used version online 🙂

      • ThorsHammer May 29, 2023 at 4:08 pm #

        Woodchuck

        Electricity is convenient, but somewhat over rated.

        I grew up on a small farm in the mountains of Oregon. We had 80 acres, most of it logged over second growth. My parents paid $7,800 for it. The farm portion was about 15 acres. From the age of 13 my job was to take care of the farm, move the irrigation pipes, keep up the fences, feed the rabbits, chickens and pigs, butcher them when the time came, and weed and harvest the garden that was about 100′ x 100′. And I drove the tractor to bring back sawdust from a nearby mill that heated the house. Water for irrigation and consumption came from a stream up the mountain that produced pressure by gravity. (or electricity by a small turbine if we had needed it.)

        From age 13 I essentially produced all the food and heat for the family while my mother and father worked in town to bring in the hard cash. I never felt particularly over worked— plenty of time to get into the usual trouble kids of that age get into. I certainly had more free time than later in life when I acquired a Masters degree and a job in the city.

        There was no such thing as a bank mortgage for ordinary people like us back then. Property was sold for cash or a land sale contract. What you produced went into the freezer or root cellar, was sold at the roadside or directly benefited the people you worked for. While it would have been missed, lack of electricity from the grid would have changed little fundamentally.

        That is the difference between real assets and financial paper ones or shiny metal.

        ps: The rocky knob on the mountain on the other side of the valley was called Thor’s Hammer.

        • ThorsHammer May 29, 2023 at 4:15 pm #

          That same 80 acres, with 1200 ft of river frontage on one of the finest trout streams in the US, would cost millions of dollars today. No way a carpenter and school teacher could ever own it.

          That’s progress.

          • Amman May 29, 2023 at 6:32 pm #

            Your family sold it?

        • mrs_saj May 29, 2023 at 7:12 pm #

          ThorsHammer,

          It’s a great user id and a great childhood. Thanks for sharing.

          • ThorsHammer May 30, 2023 at 9:46 am #

            Thanks mrs-saj

            My underlying point was how little physical labor and time is necessary to support a family if it is free from the “needs” imposed upon it by society.

            For a modern day example follow the family, Worldwild living at Arrayanes Farm in the mountains of Ecuador. They are shoeless, continually busy, and immensely skilled. There is a segment where the 12 year old girl is breaking an unruly horse with a sense of authority that few adult men could muster—.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 9:54 am #

            @ThorsHammer, good stuff.

          • ThorsHammer May 30, 2023 at 9:57 am #

            That is ‘Worldwidewild” This ******* site won’t allow me to post the link.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 10:00 am #

            Try to somehow edit the link to trick the filter. For You Tube, I just delete the first ‘http’ parts of it and it works. Some add x’s to parts of the addresses and so on. It is possible too that over time and more postings, the site automatically allows some commenters more link leeway. It might be to avoid spam.

        • Anthea May 30, 2023 at 10:54 am #

          @ Thor’s Hammer:

          Most of our country’s economic ills could be solved by settling about half of our population on family farms, as freeholders. (That was Jefferson’s vision of America.) I assume that about half the US population does not particularly want to farm and would prefer to engage in trades or small businesses–both of which are valuable enterprises. The land tenure system described in the Old Testament solves this problem. Every family/clan owned land, and, the jubilee arrangement ensured that no one could be permanently alienated from the land: ownership was restored, debt free, at the time of the jubilee. What this meant was that, if you didn’t want to farm, land ownership was a resource you could tap in order to capitalize some other enterprise. I.e., you could lease it.

          I don’t know how such a system could be be into place in the US, let alone how you would decide who gets what, but I’ve always suspected that the high cost of land is due to a rigged market. I think that if there were no ag subsidies and various other government intrusions, land would be affordable for most people. Big Ag simply is not profitable without subsidies and other gamins of the system.

          In my area, much of the county has been subdivided into 5, 10, 15, and 20-acre lots. A family could be reasonably food-self-sufficient on that amount of land. The people who own these places are not rich, but they’re definitely not poor, either. It’s not been too many years (about 10) since a person could buy a modest house on five acres for under $50K. I wish I saw more signs that the neighbors were prepping for self-sufficiency.

          When I try to imagine what the area would look like if people were forced to be self-sufficient, it conjures up a beautiful vision: big gardens, pigs, chickens, goats, cattle, rabbits, apples, peaches, pears, cherries, pecans, hazelnuts, blackberries, strawberries, blueberries, gooseberries, currants, bee hives, etc.

          Probably not going to happen.

          Our garden here is not 100′ X 100′, but close to it. I think it’s about 75′ X 75′. A great joy.

          As for electricity: It’s a hell of a lot easier to manage without electricity than without running water. I’ve managed without running water for periods as long as about two years (though never without electricity). It takes all morning to wash the dishes. I’d hate to think how long it would take to do the wash.

          In the book “The Good Life,” by Helen and Scott Nearing, they had neither electricity nor running water. One thing that helped is that they rarely cooked. They were vegetarians and seem to have eaten most of their food raw, during the summer. They did can a lot, and much winter fare sounds like it came from the stock pot on the wood stove. Must have been a PITA. Helen appears to have been a lousy cook. By their own account, they were happy as pigs in mud.

          • ThorsHammer May 30, 2023 at 4:04 pm #

            anthea

            To carry the theme further, the space requirement to grow 90% of the produce and protein to feed a family from an aquaponic system (plus pigs and chickens) in a solar greenhouse is about 4,500 sq. ft. Well within the scope of manicured Blue Grass on many suburban lots. Just don’t try it on your lot. The Zoning Police will come down on you with all barrels blazing, your neighbors will hate you and threaten to fire bomb you, and the Judge will end up seizing your property for having incorrect thoughts.

            ps: “Simple Living Alaska” They do a great job of canning and preserving, but the guy is addicted to tractors and stuff that go chuga chuga!

      • Ron Anselmo May 29, 2023 at 11:28 pm #

        Woody – TFN? I like it.

      • FGB3 May 31, 2023 at 1:14 pm #

        ‘TFN’

    • nancyd May 29, 2023 at 11:55 am #

      Excellent summation teddyboy.

    • D from OR May 29, 2023 at 1:34 pm #

      “…and we are the last generation to remember the Old World.”

      You Boomers are always so high on yourselves.

      I grew up watching tv with 3 channels, rode in a car without seatbelts, owned cassette tapes, etc, etc. There are lots of people around who were born in the 1960s and 70s – is this not something you consider?

      I also grew up watching the Boomers completely overtake the culture and squeeze us out of any participation. See the state of our politics if you need any evidence.

      From Clinton forward it has been a long slide into the ditch JHK mentions.

      Understand this is the perspective millions have. We are not “you” and your “luck” had a cost.

      • Amman May 29, 2023 at 6:26 pm #

        How much different can anyone be from a Boomer?

        • messianicdruid May 30, 2023 at 9:16 am #

          All you have to do is ask enough questions and before you know it they will show you the door, it is not about being a certain age or being born in a certain decade.

          Those that cannot or will not hear, wear the label.

          • Amman May 31, 2023 at 4:01 am #

            Nice. Yes. KNow plenty of Boomers who are OK in my book. I think Carlin went a little overboard.

    • Qwibqwib June 2, 2023 at 4:25 pm #

      Boomers are always on the threshold of the biggest, or best or first or etc bla bla bla. In reality, they are the fat ass standing on the threshold not letting anyone else by. The me me me generation is the generation that fucked everything up. Many more psychopathic individuals in that generation than the following generations.

  4. DrTomSchmidt May 29, 2023 at 9:46 am #

    “anyone seeking to oppose him better bring some F-15 fighter planes to get the job done”

    Or Ak47s, Toyota pickups, and guts. Like the Taliban.

    • Rodulf May 29, 2023 at 10:23 am #

      Unfortunately, Americans lack the guts…to a serious degree. The utter absence of male Solar Heroic energy is the major factor in the demise of the West. But don’t worry. White women are fast becoming the sex toys for brown/black sub-creatures, and, from their wombs, will come forth a Mulato overseer class of slave that will control the darker masses for their owners.

      • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 12:51 pm #

        Yes, the Kalergi Plan.

    • DrTomSchmidt May 29, 2023 at 11:09 am #

      One reason the administration is worried about “incels”, young men with no girlfriends and no such prospects, is they know that young, dissatisfied men are the most likely to take over a country and government. As in Afghanistan, so in DC.

      • Rodulf May 29, 2023 at 11:15 am #

        An overabundance of young males is dangerous for any society, but especially for ours, where there is no development of a masculine archetype, beyond that of war-fantasies.

        • DrTomSchmidt May 29, 2023 at 11:19 am #

          It’s usually more dangerous for the neighboring societies. The French knew this going into WW1: the Germans had more expendable cannon fodder than they did.

          You’re right about the horrific lack of leadership and in fact demonization of the young. When their leader arises and unleashes the latent power in them it will be in the biblical sense awesome to behold. The gerontocracy in DC knows it; I’m too old to take part but I know which side I choose.

        • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 12:54 pm #

          Yes, the madness of Feminism. The Pathocrats know their business very well. Our credit is their debit.

          The very idea of putting women over men is stunning in its savagery – to women as well. They simply won’t marry men who are beneath them, thus they won’t marry since they’ve been put above men.

          • Anthea May 29, 2023 at 8:13 pm #

            @ Jarek:

            The unwillingness to marry is as much on the male side as the female side. The men are unwilling to accept responsibility–or, as Rodulf put it, “There is no development of a masculine archetype.” There is, in effect, no cultivation of the masculine virtues, or even any awareness that there is such a thing.

            Actually, I remember JHK enumerating the masculine virtues a couple of years ago in one of his blog posts, but I can’t remember what they are. So I would refer you (again) to Fr. Ripperger’s video, “How to Raise a Man.” Being a man is a rather difficult undertaking. Though I’d have to review the video, the general idea is that it is the duty of a man to undertake those things that are “arduous.”

            Naturally, women will have little incentive to marry a guy who is not a man.

            It is perhaps also true that many women are lacking in the feminine virtues.

            Your particular gripe, though, appears to be that, women “simiply won’t marry men who are beneath them.” You feel that this is because they have been “put above” men. I’d say it’s more of a case of women being forced to assume many of the masculine roles from which men have abdicated. E.g., instead of providing support and protection, they seek to prey on women, both materially and sexually. And (e.g. again) since the definition of an incel is “involuntarily celibate,” and not “involuntarily unmarried,” it follows from this definition that an incel is a person who desires to prey on women sexually and is not having any luck. E.g. (again), an incel desires casual sex, without responsibility or commitment.

            Also, I think sociologists concur that people tend to marry roughly within their their own class–and will, in general, marry someone whose physical attractiveness is about equal to their own.

            If you’re having problems finding a woman, this is most likely because you feel entitled to snag someone who is, frankly, out of your league. This may be because you have formed an unrealistic notion of your own desirability. Are you old, fat, bald, unemployed, and poor? You will have your best success with women who are old, fat, poor–and probably have a couple of kids. If you also have a disability of some kind (which I suspect), you’d be well advised to seek companionship among women who are likewise disabled.

            Women’s preference for marrying “up” is historic. It’s always been that way. For one thing, women historically had no means to make their own fortunes or otherwise improve their status. Elizabeth Bennet did not have the option of becoming a doctor or a stockbroker. So she married Mr. D’Arcy–which, realistically, was about as likely as a Missouri farm girl from a middle-class family marrying a Rockefeller, because he became infatuated with her at a dance.

            Marriage has always been “a maneuvering business”–again to quote Jane Austen. It was probably even moreso in the days of arranged marriages. Even in Jane Austen’s day, a girl was expected to marry the man her parents chose, and the only possible excuse for not doing so was if she were in love with someone else.

            One of my old friends once told me that he had a female co-worker who was a single mom with a couple of kids. Both this woman and my friend worked at the same shitty, low-paying job. She was always talking about how she was going to find a guy to marry who would provide for her and the kids.

            Finally, my friend told her, “You’re old, you’re fat, you’re poor, and you have two kids. There’s no way you could be anything but a burden to anyone.” My friend claims that this lecture caused her to get her shit together and go into nursing, in which field she did very well over the years–though she never married.

            If you can’t find a woman who doesn’t regard you as “beneath her,” you have two options. One of them is to look for a woman who’s roughly in your league, or even a bit “beneath” you. The other option is to improve yourself.

          • badberries May 29, 2023 at 9:11 pm #

            anthea jarek, When I was in the singles scene early 90’s. There was a type of woman I attracted.
            the criteria were:

            Middle aged, overweight, divorced, bitter, single mothers with rude children, credit problems and small dogs.

          • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 11:05 pm #

            Another excellent comment, Anthea, and spot on.

            Incels believe that they are owed sex – without any strings attached – from women. And that they haven’t been served that up on a platter is the fault of feminism, or something. But it is very much like the Wokies/trans agenda in that these are people who have a disorder (or equivalent) who demand society change instead of bothering to improve their own lot, as you say. It’s much easier to get into a social media group and whine collectively, and indulge in “two-minutes hate” sessions against the people who they believe are somehow holding them back from getting what they want.

            People who don’t see themselves as victims usually do much better in life, because they don’t fall apart whenever they fail or something happens to them. They move on.

          • Suburban_elk May 30, 2023 at 8:08 am #

            The top 10 percent of men, get all the women, is how it works without a moderating force, which moderating force is called Society, or alternately, Patriarchy.

            Whether it’s the top 10 percent of men who get all the women, the top 20, the top 5, the top 1, is up for debate, but that’s the trend, away from a stable monogamy. The reasons for this trend are another question, but generally to do with.. well, who can say.

            In a Society, a man gets a woman, provided he does his duty and is not lame. In a Hypergamous free for fall, which is where we are now, the Big Man gets all the women.

            Hypergamy is where the woman wants, and gets, the top dog.

            By definition, 90 percent of the men are excluded from the top 10 percent.. and while there is some play, in those categories? for most men, they aint moving into the top category. Tough nutz.

            However, where you come in, and women worldwide, is to encourage men to man up and accept one of the women who has already been mated by an alpha, a top ten percenter, after they have been used and discarded, by him.

            IOW it’s a chimera of the Society that was, where a pretense remains that that women is yours, when the facts is, that she has already given it up to the big dog, a long time ago.

            These mating patterns where the top 10 or 20 per cent of men are having all the women who have sex, which among the younger generations is maybe 60 per cent of them, are established, not conjectural.

            The woman who is “at the level” of a lowly incel, by the reasonable standards of what once was Society, will not have that incel cuz “she can do better than that.”

            Remember when Mr Big saved Sara, at the end of Sex and the City? Neither do I, but bear with me.. that’s the fantasy. And the sad fact is, it does play out for some women like that: they get a beta chump to pick up the tab. But he will always be despised, for the chump that he is.

            There is a HOT MEME, literally it won the internet last week, to exactly this effect, where a woman is getting copulated and there is a long line of men, waiting their turn, and the hubby-to-be, is near the end of the line.

          • Suburban_elk May 30, 2023 at 8:13 am #

            tldr- the top 10 percent of men have sex with the women, at least when said women are at their peak desirability

            by definition, this excludes 90 percent of the men

            this is where we are now

            the countervailing force to this female instinct called hypergamy, which is to mate with the top dog, is Society, or Patriarchy as it was derided by feminists

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 9:19 am #

            The top 10 percent of men, get all the women…” ~ Suburban_elk

            —-

            While I guess the bottom 10% of men are busy spending their days, nights and weekend inputting text online about all these injustices of theirs.

            Those illegal/immoral harems are so conspicuous these daze too.

            Woe is we…

          • Suburban_elk May 30, 2023 at 9:53 am #

            Intelligent people talk ideas; avg intelligence talks people.

            Pipe it down, Zazelle.

          • Suburban_elk May 30, 2023 at 10:02 am #

            But to address the claim made by Zazelle, that it’s only the bottom tier that is nooticing the pattern where the top 10-or-so percent, get all the women–

            Not true: Everyone nootices. In the discussion forums where these ideas were hashed out, it’s generaly the top dogs themselves, verifying and attesting, that “yeah, this is how it is; it’s pretty great, if you can manage to be a high status top dog, u will get the pussy to ur heart’s content.”

            Most famously, see for example Trump’s remark.

            The reason the top dogs were able to lay out these observations most succinctly, is generally cuz such clarity of vision comes with the piece the mind that one has, in the higher ranks of status.

            It’s not a super strong correlation, between high status and clarity of thought, but there is certainly some correlation: low status is stress, and that does not lead to any sort of clear exposition.

            Low status doesn’t HAVE to be stress, IF there is a society that has an INTACT Hierarchy that includes dignity for all its participants, even those who gotta clean the toilets. This is not such a society, obv.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 10:04 am #

            Healthy people go out and for example discuss and exchange ideas from others in person too, balance and all that.

          • Anthea May 30, 2023 at 11:10 am #

            Once my daughter and I were discussing single mom of our acquaintance.

            I said, “Well, maybe she could find a guy who would like to support her and her kids. It could happen.”

            To which my daughter replied, “No it couldn’t.”

          • Anthea May 30, 2023 at 11:45 am #

            @ Suburban_elk:

            Meh, this idea that, “The top 10 percent of men, get all the women,” is another one of those male myths that are perpetuated by incels–analogous to thinking you’re entitled to shop a Neiman-Marcus, when you have a part time job at Dollar General.

            The pool of women who are able to attract the top 10% of men is VERY small. You have to be young (in your 20s), have a decent job.income, pretty, presentable–or more than presentable–in terms of dress, manners, intelligence, and education. I don’t know what percentage of women fall into this category, but I would guess that it is less than 5%.

            The other 95% know that they won’t snag a relatively upper-class or upper-middle-class man. They may daydream about this, but they’re not dating any of them.

            Here again, the incel types are rejecting the type of woman who is, so to speak, “in their league.”

            This statement is also odd: “encourage men to man up and accept one of the women who has already been mated by an alpha, a top ten percenter, after they have been used and discarded, by him.”

            I don’t think I’ve ever known a single mom who was previously mated to an “alpha” and was discarded by him. Single moms were typically married to some guy who was too irresponsible to provide for a family–not marriage material. Mostly they got married to this guy when they were fairly young (as was the dude) and mistakenly thought the guy would mature into a man. This is best viewed as a “youthful indiscretion.”

            Actually, I don’t know many women who married into the top 10%. Among those I know about, it was usually a mistake, as the “alpha” turned out to be just as irresponsible as any of the less fortunate males. At one point in my life, I knew several guys from wealthy families whose wives were supporting the family, because they would not work. (Work is beneath many men who fancy themselves upper class.) Now that I think of it, this happened to one of my aunts. The family damn near starved before hubby inherited Daddy’s money.

            As for women “not having an incel” because “she can do better than that,” this is actually quite reasonable. If said incel cannot offer her a better life than the life she can make on her own, why would she marry? Because she wants to adopt a 160-pound pet?

          • Anthea May 30, 2023 at 12:03 pm #

            For all the bitter incels out there, the lot of the single mom can be kind of a bitter pill to swallow.

            A divorced woman with one child has a reasonable chance of marrying a decent guy of the same class. If she has two kids, this becames far less likely. If she has more than two kids, she’s out of the running–even if she’s reasonably attractive, both physically and in other ways.

            A lot of single moms have had to face up to that. Sometimes such women re-marry late in life, after the kids are grown and gone. If they do, they marry a man who is stable and financially secure, and who owns his own home. Likely too, he has kids who are grown and gone.

          • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 12:46 pm #

            Anthea: Wrong. An average looking woman can attract an high level Alpha. She just can’t keep him for more than a night. If she’s above average, a week or a month.

            He goes one his merry way and as Elk says, she is “ruined” for life. Five minutes with a Bill Clinton will do that to a girl.

            Freud exclaimed (he may well have been lying) that he didn’t understand women. We answered: The secret of woman’s nature is hypergamy, to look up, to desire up, to fuck up, to marry up.

            As a correlate of this, they deem themselves better than the average man – but this is nonsense. They are not. This must always be bourn in mind. A Just society fights against this aspect of women’s nature – and yes, against the lustful predatory male nature as well.

            Of course you love the idea of women as better than men. It’s part of your “gospel”. Why would any man want to marry a woman who believed as you do? Prepare for a lifetime of abuse. How did you do it? The old bait and switch?

            Of course you are unusual is that you wanted to marry down so as to utterly dominate. Very unusual. Of course most women don’t boast about putting in gas lines either.

            Sigmund was right about one thing: Control of female sexuality is prerequisite for civilization. The Big Man thing works in Tribes, but it could never compete with a People who gave all their men the chance to be fully invested in the culture.

          • Suburban_elk May 30, 2023 at 3:59 pm #

            Women lose their ability to pair bond, and thus their value as wives and mothers, with every sex partner. Perhaps we can agree on monogamy as social value.

            Do men get a pass on this? it sometimes seems like it. A lock that is opened by any key is useless, a key that opens any lock is worth a lot.

            I agree with Anthea’s premise that the men in this country have a lot of problems, and laying those problems at the feet of women is wrongheaded.

            The issue of contention, for the most part, and as I see it, is what values should be promoted to young women: chastity and marriage, or whoredom?

            A women can be a wife and mother, a slut, or a nun. Any woman who is more than one of those, is lessening her performance on the other.

          • Suburban_elk May 30, 2023 at 4:07 pm #

            This statement is also odd: “encourage men to man up and accept one of the women who has already been mated by an alpha, a top ten percenter, after they have been used and discarded, by him.”

            I don’t think I’ve ever known a single mom who was previously mated to an “alpha” and was discarded by him.

            Really? How many women do you know the details of their sex lives?

            I will take you at your word, and that the women you know, were never mated by an alpha. (“mated” was a deliberately goofy choice of word, on my part, and may have been misleading; I meant to say fucked; I thought that would be clear, given the context)

            I appreciate your perspective and contention, and frankly think that there is / may be, something to it. There is a new pattern emerging, where women do NOT get the alphas, at any time even, but rather the betas whom they dominate. We all see this quite a bit, I think.

            My contention is/was, that those women either were alpha-fucked when they were younger and more desirable, and consequently their ability to respect and bond with any future partners diminished; but you say they were not alpha-fucked, and I am inclined to see that you might have a point.

            But something other their hubbies, is playing that role.. I mean, right?

            Their jobs, their careers, the state, Big Daddy Government, the CEO of their fabulous career?

          • Anthea May 30, 2023 at 7:35 pm #

            @ Suburban_elk:

            “How many women do you know the details of their sex lives?”

            Hey, I’m 75 years old. The answer to you question is “countless.” Women do talk about these things. Maybe another factor, too, is that, for whatever reason, people tend to confide in me. I think I put out a “been there/done that” vibe. When I was a vendor at various farmers’ markets, I had many long conversations with customers–total strangers–who would tell me all kinds of personal things, usually family troubles. So would other vendors. One elderly guy told me about his childhood sexual abuse, and also his sister’s childhood sexual abuse, and his rotten first marriage, and much more. I told my daughter about what he’d been through, and her reaction was, “What? Just out of the blue, he told you all that?” Yup. Go figure.

            One thing you have to remember is that most young and reasonably pretty women don’t even have access to “alphas,” and if they’re quite young, they don’t even know which men should be classified as an “alpha.”

            A high school girl may be very much aware that some of the high school boys are “popular.” She also has a pretty good idea whether she stands a chance with the captain of the football team. Some high school boys are more or less “on track” to become successful, and some are not. Some come from moderately wealthy families, but most don’t.

            Where I went to high school, there were probably no “alpha” boys at all, in the sense that you mean the word. If the family that owned the town gas station had had a son my age, I suppose he would have been considered an “alpha.” But they only had two daughters. The family who owned a small manufacturing plant had a son a year younger than me, but he was already an alcoholic by the time he was 16. (Used to park his expensive car behind the liquor store, in the belief that he would not be seen.) Some boys were taking advanced science and math classes, and, some years down the road, might be expected to have good earning potential.

            A high school girl could (maybe) select an “alpha,” if she pursued boys who were “popular”–usually a sign that there’s money around there somewhere. The only other way she could do this would be if her parents or other adults practically had the geneologies and fortunes of every family in town stored in his/her memory, and wished to advise her on her prospects–and she wished to be guided by this advice.

            So, next, the young woman goes off to college. She will meet few men, if she’s in the English Department, and they will all be gay. (I speak from experience here.) She will have little opportunity to either meet or identify “alphas” in college. Maybe there are ways to go about this, but heck if I know what they are.

            Next, the young woman, now in her early twenties, gets a job. The problem there is that most women work in fields that are dominated by other women. It gets very hard to meet elegible men, once you get out of college.

            My experience is twofold: You will never meet an “alpha” (rich guy) through ordinary channels like work and school–and he will be much older. There was only one “rich guy” whom I ever had a relationship with. I met him because I was invited to give a talk on astrology at a social gathering. The “rich guy” was there primarily to check out the women. He was much older than me.

            I’ve known very few women who married “up”–as in two or three. Even in their cases, it was not “up” by all that much. That is, the woman came from an upper-middle-class family, and the man came from a wealthy family. My observation, over many years, is that rich-men’s sons are usually a VERY poor choice for a spouse. They are almost invariably the worst kind of losers. After their wife has supported the family for a number of years, they will finally get around to using their family connections to get a job as a schoolteacher. I’ve only known one rich-man’s son who turned out to be capable and responsible enough to successfully take over the family business.

            These “alphas” you speak of are simply inaccessible to most young, attractive women of moderate means. They don’t move in the same social circles. They are not in the workplace–or not in YOUR workplace, even if you work for the same employer. The executives don’t cruise around the secretarial pool or hobnob with the typesetters and paste-up aartists. And if you’re in teaching–bleh! There are few men, and what few there are, are either well over 40, probably gay, and almost certainly poor.

            I feel like maybe I should rather ask you how many alpha males you know who are “getting laid to their heart’s content.” You know a bunch of rich, handsome men, who confide in you the details of their sex lives, right?

          • Paula D May 30, 2023 at 9:05 pm #

            Anthea, I find your conversation with these two fascinating, mostly because it reveals how very strange they are.

            I always assumed male fantasies involved themselves and whatever object, woman or body part they fetishized, but these guys are instead fantasizing about other men’s sex lives. Who knew?

            And women, to them, are simply objects with quick depreciation value, who should be discarded after use.

            I guess it’s better than the other one, who thinks that women should be raped and then have their throats slit.

            Anyway, you aren’t wasting your time because Holy Shit! learning about the inner lives of men is enlightening.

          • Anthea May 30, 2023 at 9:41 pm #

            @ Suburban_elk:

            I appreciate your clarification that by “mated” (and discarded) by an “alpha,” you meant casual sex or a one-night stand or similar.

            To tell you the truth, I don’t even know any women who even dated an “alpha” or had a fling with one. I’ve known a few women who were on the slutty side. I spent an evening with one of them, where we drove to some remote house in Kansas to meet her drug dealer, after which we drove back with three shady characters she met there, and they went up to her apartment and had a foursome. The other rather slutty woman I new was always getting knocked up by some black guy and had (I think) three abortions. Slutty women, it seems to me, are too emotionally unstable to even think about who they’re hooking up with, let alone work out a strategy for finding an “alpha.”

            The thing is, most young, moderately attractive women never even meet an alpha.

            When I was in my twenties, one of my gay male friends often told me I should marry a wealthy man. My reply was invariably, “I don’t even know anyone who has a job.”

            As I said before, the rich do not move in the same social circles as the rest of us.

            I suspect that most men fantasize that young single women are having all kinds of sex, all the time, merely because it is so easily available to them–since that’s what a guy would do if he could. Actually, most young single women lead rather boring lives: go to work, shop for dinner, cook, do the wash, take a shower, and watch a little TV. If they’re lucky, they have friends to hang out with. Many of them lead rather lonely lives. There are a few young women who are the party-animal types, who go out drinking with co-workers every night. But you don’t meet an “alpha” that way. You will most likely meet an alcoholic.

            I think, too, that the idea that the “alpha” male gets lots of girls is almost entirely a fantasy. If he’s really an “alpha,” he’s a busy guy–and he comes from a family background where promiscuity is not acceptable. Playboys are largely a male fantasy.

          • Woodchuck May 31, 2023 at 12:21 am #

            replying to a reply:

            “I think, too, that the idea that the “alpha” male gets lots of girls is almost entirely a fantasy. If he’s really an “alpha,” he’s a busy guy–and he comes from a family background where promiscuity is not acceptable. Playboys are largely a male fantasy.”

            Not entirely a fantasy. In the music scene lots of male entertainers are propositioned by groupies and women who are competing with each other to see who can bed some rock star. Are these guys “alpha males”?. I’m not so sure. Ted Nugent would qualify as an alpha. But he’s a very busy man, off hunting a lot, and also married with a big family. He’s out chasing deer instead of women.

            From DNA studies, alpha Genghis Khan scattered more of his seed around than probably any other known alpha male of antiquity. A good example of a modern alpha male who scored more than anybody else around him was Wernher Von Braun. Numerous historical sources claim that while he was director of the V2 project at Peenemunde he laid nearly all of the women who were working at the place. Wikipedia says that when VB was going to university in Berlin during the libertine Weimar era (that Jarek doesn’t like) he was often seen in public places like restaurants and theatres with two or more women with him. It seems that he had a harem going for him while in school. Probably easy enough for him because he was an attractive blueblood related to some royal families and his dad was well to do and an important bureaucrat. My guess is that his stiff upper lip Prussian Lutheran family disapproved of his obsessive womanizing, but since he was doing so well with everything else they had to let that go. The dude was obsessed with sex and rockets and apparently did very well with both. And what is a rocket but a gigantic phallic symbol? A celebration of fire, smoke, noise, danger, and testosterone.

          • Woodchuck May 31, 2023 at 1:08 am #

            Jarek sayeth above:

            “Anthea: Wrong. An average looking woman can attract an high level Alpha. She just can’t keep him for more than a night. If she’s above average, a week or a month.

            He goes one his merry way and as Elk says, she is “ruined” for life. Five minutes with a Bill Clinton will do that to a girl.”

            There are always exceptions to these rules. This reminds me of some notorious alpha women in history that didn’t accept being placed in any of these molds and traps set for them as to becoming victims. In the 1800’s actress and dancer Lola Montez was hanging out with a group of people in public on the sidewalk outside a major theatre or music hall in Munich. She was a woman that Jarek would consider “out of control”. A libertine.

            The story goes that King Ludwig I of Bavaria was a big fan and huge supporter of the arts. He was out and about in public and often went to shows. He saw Lola out there with a group of theatre people and asked her if her breasts were real or padded. In response Lola whipped ’em out so the delighted king could see for himself. She stole the show as well as getting the king even more interested in her. In Munich in the 1830’s and ’40’s Ludwig I was loved and very popular. He went about in public without being followed by a huge retinue of security people and guards. Lola was an alpha female who had snagged herself a top ranking alpha male. The King’s “subjects” grew to dislike Lola. She didn’t help things by once going after a group of beligerent leftist student types with her “alpha” horsewhip.

            Lola packed an extraordinary number of adventures and interesting people into her life. People that ranged all the way from some of her lovers like Franz Liszt or the king of Bavaria – or to aquaintances like Wyatt Earp and Doc Holiday at the Birdcage Theatre in Tombstone Az. These guys and other famous outlaws of the Old West would hang out in the basement of this theatre playing poker. And they had their share of fun with the ladies of the evenging who were available there. Lola was a dancer there for a while until she moved on to San Francisco. Lola knew everybody. It seems that the willpower and charisma she possessed was potent enough to open countless doors for her and overcome all the obstacles so many other people whine about.

          • Suburban_elk May 31, 2023 at 9:08 am #

            @Paula — u r awful. This is a nice discussion we are having, and you bring an ugly, ugly personal tone to it.

            This is too much to ask of a nasty harpy such as urself, who doesn’t do introspection but: Try looking in the mirror, next time you wonder why the critical intra-fambly relationships that make up a healthy society, are more difficult than they need be.

          • Suburban_elk May 31, 2023 at 9:19 am #

            But yeah Paula, when men are young and dumb and full of cum, women are primarily sex partners, and w/o guidance from Society, viewed first as those and only later on, as wives.

            Women who were not pretty, bitterly resent those who are, or were and they also resent men for never having put them on the pedestal that a pretty woman gets. And when they get old, that resentment is doubled and triple to the moon.

            And that’s where you — and consequently We, as we are a ruined society, that allows for a position of privilege, of those who would tear it down — that’s where We are now. Such like as her, [no sic] should not be allowed to participate, in society. And God willing, such like her, will not.

            Imagine having to partner with a woman who thinks that men’s inner lives are worthless, or weird or strange. For example when they share some very very very very very basic, plain and common sensical thoughts, in the spirit of honest convo, are derided with a nasty personal tone. I honestly can’t even understand such nastiness, being given reign.

            And let’s be real: such as infected this board, with the Endless War of the Sexes. Which — on this board? and in this effin Society, which we all know is fucked? — the women have one.

            Anyone see a correlation there? Co-incidence?

            No one wants anything to do, with such a person who despises per force, the other half. If the other (older) women have any sense, they will keep that harpy in line.

          • Suburban_elk May 31, 2023 at 9:22 am #

            The reality is, this is the most attn that Paula will ever get, from any man, is this barrage.

            So to the other men, and there are a few left on this Board, sincere apologies for indulging in the dysfunction. Now excuse me while I tend to my animals.

          • Jarek May 31, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

            Woody: There are always exceptions…..

            Jarek: Yeah, because the exceptions are the important thing when we are debating the norms, the desperately needed norms that the Elite have drop kicked down the memory hold.

            Anthea: “I didn’t know any men who had jobs”. (approximate quote)

            What are the natural chances of that? You’ve always been attracted to losers, men who are beneath you. Going after the ones above you would have been far too painful when you were rejected, and in any case, you wanted to dominate. At some level you always knew what you wanted – be it ever so unworthy and unwholesome.

            Elk: Paula is actually in a long term marriage. She boasted to me that she makes more than her husband – as if that fact invalidated the whole principle of hypergamy. It’s possible, just very unusual. Unusual people love to try and set themselves up as the norm or insinuate that their existence proves that there are no norms.

            He listens to NPR, perhaps a sign that he is an NPC? Not sure, she seems to like him. Paula is unusual in that respect as well. Ignorant and vicious much of the time, but suddenly she’ll be kind.

          • Jarek May 31, 2023 at 12:19 pm #

            Woody: You did bring up a good point, namely, What’s an alpha? Because there is no easy answer, many would throw out the concept – a huge mistake.

            Again, we reduce the equation to its simplest and thus most broadly applicable terms: Alpha means superiority. And of course there are many types of that.

            Was Bill Gates an alpha on the playground as a boy? How would he do in prison? Not well, obviously. But in the world of IT business, he’s a super Alpha.

            In Houellebecq’s novel Submission, the Muslim politician and soon to be Sultan says to the protagonist professor, Intelligence is also a form of strength. You have shown it and we could see our way to giving you a nice young wife.

            Needless to say, submission is an erotic necessity for women. Otherwise, they’re just men with vaginas. How can you marry such a person?

            The danger is that they mostly do want to get married, but none of them want to be wives or even if they do, are qualified to be wives.

          • Woodchuck May 31, 2023 at 1:40 pm #

            Jarek sayeth:

            “Was Bill Gates an alpha on the playground as a boy? How would he do in prison? Not well, obviously. But in the world of IT business, he’s a super Alpha.”

            We are living in a unique and peculiar period of history whereby a 100% reliable electric grid enables a ridiculous and pale faced pudgy nerd to occupy a super alpha position. Remove electricity from the scene and this man’s life will have no purpose. Post collapse and in the Long Emergency these sorts of neutered nerds will be living and appearing as short lived gollum-like creatures, snuffling and grumbling along on their path up the mountain only to at some point find themselves sailing into an active volcano and oblivion. Not only will nerds be suffering but the orcs and trolls will also be doing very poorly in the LE.

          • Anthea June 1, 2023 at 10:52 am #

            @ Woodchuck:

            Yes, it is certainly true that there are some “alpha” males who are able to bed a lot of women. Actually, one of the surest ways to be “that guy” is to learn how to play guitar pretty well and do a lot of gigs in area bars. There are some guys who do this for free because it is a good way to get laid a lot, plus you get a lot of free drinks. (Musical talent runs in my family, in a hit-and-miss kind of way, so we have had couple of professional musicians in the family. One–the one with the sparkling personality and the good looks–was quite the Lothario in his youth.) Anyway, such people are not “alphas.”

            A couple of years ago, an old high-school friend told me that, back when we were in high school, our band director was quite the Lothario among the school’s teachers and office staff. He was married, not particularly attractive (a skinny guy with a huge honking nose), had a low-paying job as a teacher–and was definitely not an “alpha.”

            Some guys just know how to appeal to women.

            These guys–and the (usually very young) women who are attracted to them–are quite rare. You probably should not be seeking a mate among such types, anyway. I don’t think that the examples you offer explain why YOU, or other sexually disadvantaged guys, can’t find a girl.

            Heck, half the population is female. There are women all over the place. The key thing, if you’d like to date one, is to leave the house on a regular basis. I knew one guy who directed the youth group at church, and I’m pretty sure the main reason he was so active in church was because it was a good way to meet a lot of women.

            Another key thing is to have an ability to carry on a conversation. Usually, this requires that you have wide-ranging interests, including being interested in other people and their lives. If you cultivate the ability to speak to other people with kindness and encouragement and genuinely care about them, women will be attracted to you. You’d be surprised how many women haven’t heard a kind or appreciative word from a man in YEARS. If someone is having a bad day, offer to bring them a cup of coffee. (One of my daughters once did this for another woman at work, and the woman was shocked an practically reduced to tears–this being in one of those times and places where little kindnesses were literally unknown.) Thus, even if such behaviors don’t get you laid, you should do them anyway, as a matter of your own self-cultivation.

          • Anthea June 1, 2023 at 11:08 am #

            @ Paula D:

            Yes, this is quite interesting. These fantasies that there are rich, handsome, “alpha” guys out there, hogging up all the women are just that: fantasies. I think this (along with several other views about women) is a common theme on internet blogs that cater to men (or incel-type men). They’re probably popular because they soothe these guys by offering them rationalizations for why they’re frustrated and lonely.

            In Jarek’s case, he’s constructed a whole fantasy universe around rationalizing his personal failures.

            Anyway, this whole conversation does gives some interesting insights into male thought-processes.

            Do women construct complex fantasies to rationalize their own shortcomings or misfortunes? Or is this just a guy thing?

          • Anthea June 1, 2023 at 2:39 pm #

            @ Suburban_elk:

            “Imagine having to partner with a woman who thinks that men’s inner lives are worthless, or weird or strange.”

            What Paula was referring to was that the worldview you embrace is both disordered and dishonest. It’s a fantasy. And it is a fantasy that you indulge in because it provides you with a rationalization for your frustration and loneliness regarding women. You are a victim: a victim of “alpha” men hogging up all the desirable women, and a victim of being scorned by all the young attractive women, because they supposedly won’t settle for anything less than an “alpha.”

            What Paula is calling you out for is at least a mild form a form of mental illness, for being unable to confront reality. We all have our rationalizations, and an inclination to blame our problems on others. Hence, I wouldn’t call this way of thinking a serious mental illness. More like a very ordinary one.

            Instead of nursing a bunch of delusions about why you can’t find a suitable woman, you need to start thinking about how you can find and attract such a woman, through the lens of objective reality.

            Make a list of places you could go or organizations you could join to meet eligible women. Start going to them.

            Take stock of your own personal attractiveness, your dress and manners, your conversation, the kindness and generosity of your spirit, and your ability to take a genuine interest in others and to care about others. If you see that you have defects in some of these areas, go to work on correcting them.

            Having taken stock of your own assets, as recommended above, you need to get it firmly through your head that you are NOT going to get a woman who as vastly more attractive (in all the above-stated ways) than yourself.

            I was just thinking, as I was pulling weeds out in the garden, that the idea that the rich, handsome, “alpha” men are hogging up all the women is as ridiculous as me saying I can’t get a man because Cindy Crawford (and her ilk) hogged up all the men.

            I’m pretty sure that the way men get these dopey (and dishonest and disordered) ideas is from watching porn.

          • Anthea June 1, 2023 at 3:06 pm #

            Just conversationally, for no reason whatsoever, I thought I’d mention that I DO know one young woman from a poor family who recently married a rich guy.

            I’ll call her Angela, because she has a rather unusual first name, and there might be someone who frequents this blog who knows her.

            I was Angela’s babysitter for a year or two, until she was old enough to start kindergarten. Her dad was (another) one of those guys who refused to work. He was kind of a shmendrick, so it’s possible that he really couldn’t find any kind of a job. (The normal recourse in such cases is to get a government job.) Her mom was an unattractive, overweight, unfeminine, and moderately obnoxious woman. I got along fine with her, because I have a talent for not being bothered by obnoxious people.

            Angela’s mom had always worked full-time, at low-paying jobs, and the family had always lived in run-down, creepy houses or apartments in bad neighborhoods. I think Angela’s previous babysitters must have been abusive to her, at least to some degree. When she first started coming to my house, she acted terrified and wouldn’t move from her car-seat for a couple of days.

            After awhile, she started acting like a normal little girl and became fast friends with my daughter. Their birthdays were only a week apart, so they were almost exactly the same age.

            Eventually, she went off to kindergarten, and her mom divorced the shmendrick and remarried, to a guy who had a good job and income but was disabled. (As far as I know, he was a good guy.) I don’t know if it was all smooth sailing for Angela after that, but at least she lived in a nice house and was getting her needs met in the way of food and clothes and stability. (I hope they didn’t send her to public school in the city, but I don’t know.)

            Anyway, about a year ago she married a guy who is apparently extremely wealthy–and not bad looking, either. He is also roughly her age. Every time I log into Facebook, they are in Italy or France or Greece, or skiing in Colorado.

            She is a sweet, pretty girl–always was. And if anybody deserves the good life, it’s her.

          • Anthea June 2, 2023 at 1:34 am #

            The bottom line, if any of the males here want to know what women want, it’s this: They want to have kids, and they want a husband who can and will support the family so they can stay home with the kids. And they want to be valued and respected in this role. I.e., she wants a husband who will not view her role as deserving of living a life in which she will be barefoot and living under house arrest, expected to personally make all the material and social/personal sacrifices involved. Which is to say, she will be reasonably compensated for this valuable work and will be able to get away a bit with friends and extended family and community. Also, such a role needs to be an economically viable choice, in which she need not expect to live in dire poverty during her later years.

            If there are no men who are willing and able to do this, she is better off single. Duh.

        • ThorsHammer May 30, 2023 at 4:11 pm #

          Rodulf

          War is always the Answer. If the males can no longer pass the most basic physical requirements and their sex cannot be determined, then just go straight to Nuclear.

      • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 1:46 pm #

        There are plenty of them in the US, see famous ones who kill because of it, like Elliot Rodgers. Even Jarek who comments here considers himself one of them.

        • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 12:49 pm #

          Says the lying femcel.

        • Paula D May 30, 2023 at 9:07 pm #

          Why do they kill women, instead of alpha men?
          That would make more sense. But their minds are too twisted to be logical, I guess.

    • jgalt May 30, 2023 at 2:34 pm #

      Plenty of us have gun collections, especially in the Western U.S., and many also have automatic weapons, legally of course. So, it is not like the poor bastards in Europe, who have been disarmed and are subject to dictates of their un-elected rulers. Most in the U.S. air force are patriots, so China/cartel Joe might have problems getting them to fly and kill their fellow citizens. Lots of retired LEO’s and ex-military who are not on the side of the leftist and marxist crowd. They are trying, in my opinion, to provoke an uprising that they feel they can win. The woke indoctrination of our military, with the importation of millions of illegal men, and antifa/blm is their ace in the hole to suppress American citizens who challenge them.

  5. Tate May 29, 2023 at 9:47 am #

    There is always a higher proportion of psychopaths among leadership ranks than among regular people. In all probability, the U.S. is “blessed” with a higher proportion still. Also, magical-thinkers. Happy Memorial day.

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    • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 10:40 am #

      Sometimes the heroes are just as bad as the psychopaths.

      Read Justice Gorsuch’s recent opinion.

      President Trump somehow managed to get conned ito adopting the Communist Chines model of a “response” to a virus, and he still stands by it to this day?

      How many people had to look at that and pretend not to notice what was really happening, because they thought they were going to be heroes, or because Trump WAS their hero?

      If you look at the Twitter wars (don’t) between the Trump and DeSantis supporters you will see lies lies and more lies, and willful blindness to the truth, all to make their guy look better than he is.

      People who were cheering when DeSantis threw up roadblocks to try to keep Florida residents out of their own homes are now turning on him because Trump.

      This does not make me a DeSantis supporter it makes me disgusted with all the lying going on.

      If people had respected our Constitution, this could not have happened, but they all think that it’s okay when their guy does it as long as he has a good reason for declaring himself a temporary tyrant.

      Trump at this point is like one of those legendary soldiers hiding in the jungle unaware that the war is over.

      Excuse my careening off topic with my rant.

      • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 11:15 am #

        How come every time someone mentions a Trump blunder up here, it’s because he was tricked or conned into it? Apparently, even with all that billionaire savvy, he’s more naive than I am? I’m not buying it.

        • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 11:45 am #

          He was conned in the sense that he was told deliberate lies that he did not know were lies.

          There were Deep State operatives embedded in that task force.

          Mike Pompeo was giving him just enough accurate inside information to make him believe that this was a super virus like no other before.

          Is it really naive to trust the word of someone you think is a friend, someone you know has access to information that the MSM and general public do not?

          Yes, I’m going with he was lied to, because he was.

          That does not excuse his behavior because he’s had three years to figure out that what people were telling him right away about how he was on the wrong path is the truth.

          He was conned bigly about that vaxx. Why would he not believe scientists and doctors and other “experts”?

          He just can’t admit that he fell for it.

          • cbeard May 29, 2023 at 12:34 pm #

            It is called malignant narcissism.

          • ThorsHammer May 30, 2023 at 4:45 pm #

            Beryl

            “Trump was conned by Doctors and “Scientists” like “Doctor” Fraudski.”

            Aren’t you forgetting something? Trump was diagnosed with Covid19 in the midst of his re-election campaign. He had been introduced to the Zelenco Protocol (based upon Hydroxycloroquine) by his advisor Rudy Giuiliani* who had interviewed its inventor. Trump went into Walter Reed for an overnight check up, went home and took HCL and possibly Ivermectin as well, and was back on the campaign trail at full strength on Monday morning.

            Trump is nothing but a master politician with an ego in the place where his soul should reside. He was sold on the fake vaccine approach because it offered an opportunity to make him look like a savior, not because he didn’t know from personal experience that non-prescription treatments work. Trump is one of those psychopaths who is never wrong.

            * I watched the original video interview with Dr. Zelenco. It was pulled from the internet and all mention in the censored press within three days of its release.

        • JohnAZ May 29, 2023 at 11:56 am #

          Mary, hindsight is 20-20 isn’t it?

          • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 1:00 pm #

            Most of what we know now was there to be discovered before this all went down.

            Ventilators have never been a treatment for a disease.

            Masks don’t work and were known to not work because they could not work.

            You don’t vaccinate your way out of a pandemic.

            The mRNA technology was not a vaccine.

            The vaxx would not and could not prevent transmission.

            By April 2020, hundreds if not thousands of real doctors and scientists were trying to get through to the government that they were going down the wrong road.

            President Trump knew who Anthony Fauci was right from the very beginning of his administration, so no one can tell me that he didn’t have an inkling of the man’s horrible reputation before he put him on that task force.

            Yes he could have fired him. He even said that e might do so after the election.

            He still brags about lockdowns and the vaxx.

          • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 1:44 pm #

            No, I knew Trump was a blunderer right up front.

          • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 1:45 pm #

            I also knew Covid was a hoax in March 2020, knew ventilators were brought in to kill people, etc.

            I wrote it all in a diary.

            I kept a huge vault of everything that proves that was the deal since March 2020.

            So am I smarter than Trump?

          • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 1:58 pm #

            You were smart to do your own reading, Mary. I’m not sure a president is expected to do that, but he should have picked people smart enough to do their own reading on his behalf.

            Somehow genius Jared thought that “all the experts” recommending ventilators was good enough.

            I don’t know how he could not see that his father in law was being played for a fool.

          • Amman May 29, 2023 at 6:09 pm #

            An “International medical emergency” trip was laid on the world by western media and politicians in an atmosphere of near-frenzy.

            Since 911, the truth is not with mainstream news and mainstream Politicians.

          • C.O.Jones May 30, 2023 at 9:53 am #

            Beryl, Jared “666” Kushner made huge money on the ventilators.

            Kushner was one of the people “advising” Trump down the wrong path at every turn. Advising = playing him for a fool. Not far to go.

            Lockdown is something done in prison. That single event created more billionaires than any other event in history, destroying what was left of the middle class and moving that money to the hands of the already rich.

            You don’t quarantine healthy people.

            @ MaryQueen – look into Trump’s eyes and tell me if you see intelligence. I see a glassy eyed look of non-comprehension at almost every turn – one that says “I need to figure out how to make money from this situation.” So yes, you are smarter than Trump but don’t let it go to your head. The same can be said for anyone who recognized the scam behind a “vaccine” for a disease that has a 99.76% survival rate and killed only the obese and those over 80 and the scam behind the lockdown. Ironically, the two items Trump is most proud of. I just thought of a great name for a band – name it after Trump: Criminal Ninny.

          • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 12:48 pm #

            Jones: Good rejoinder to Mary’s stupid boast.

        • draupnir May 29, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

          Trump is a narcissist. The distinction from psychopathy is a matter of sIplitting hairs. I much prefer his personality disorder to that of whatever coalition is currently running the country. I suspect the alphabet community is being set up as the fall guys for when things go really south. It’s so much better, don’t you know, for the angry mobs to be hunting down homosexuals and female impersonators rather than politicians, bankers, and the one percent.

          • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 12:59 pm #

            And his niece who hates him is also a psychopath.

          • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 1:01 pm #

            Oh that niece.

            It has something to do with her feeling cheated out of an inheritance and is personal, I’m fairly certain.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

            For a second, when you wrote alphabet community, I thought you were talking about the CIA and FBI and those sorts of alphabet communities.

            It’s like when I first heard of LGBT, I thought it was TCBY (The Country’s Best Yogurt), an American chain of frozen yogurt stores.

            Incidentally, I just found out that the Big Gay Ice Cream shop in New York closed down recently, after 10 years in business. So when the electricity goes down for good, we won’t be counting on them to supply us with ice cream and whatever else they have.

            —-

            ” ‘I’m not gay, but goddamn I love frozen yogurt’

            This is a sentence that I heard come out of someone’s face hole the other day. Is frozen yogurt gay? Are frozen yogurt shops the place of my people? Can I stop hanging out at Home Depot now?” ~ salted_slug, Reddit site, r/actuallesbians

          • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 1:43 pm #

            Narcissists shouldn’t be elected dog catcher.

          • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 2:05 pm #

            Ice cream predates electricity.

            They used to make it in a tub with ice that you saved from when the pond was frozen, and you put salt in there too (not in the ice cream, in the tub and I remember doing it with rock salt and I think it was my grandmother’s ice cream maker from the Victorian era or maybe later but you turned it with a crank.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 3:09 pm #

            Most definitely, Beryl of Oyl. And if one finds ice cream too fattening, there’s always gelato.

          • Anthea May 29, 2023 at 8:34 pm #

            @ The Man They Call Zazelle:

            Gelato is the food of the Gods.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 11:45 pm #

            Amen to that.

          • Anthea June 1, 2023 at 10:01 am #

            @ The Man They Call Zazelle:

            I have been told that Home Depot–at least the ones in the cities–is very cruisy.

        • bill7424 May 29, 2023 at 12:15 pm #

          Mary Queen :

          I don’t see how Trump allowed the our Government and the CDC to buy into this Covid shit anyway. Did they suddenly forget about the Nuremberg Code which states that people can not be force to take an experimental vaccine without their consent. Does the Emergency Use Authorization over ride that Code. Or did our Government ever sign on to it in the first place.

          • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 1:03 pm #

            Trump’s one saving grace was that he never advocated for forcing the shot.

            Yes I know, how big of him.

            But that’s the difference between his covid policies and Biden’s.

          • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 1:40 pm #

            Trump would be dead by now if he was actually effective.

            I also don’t get this emotional attachment to what are in effect sociopathic politicians.

            They all suck, sort of the point of today’s article.

          • Anthea May 29, 2023 at 8:49 pm #

            @ MaryQueen:

            I’ve often wondered why some people put up with the behavior of their associates and family members. A couple of years ago, I had a young woman staying with me. (She was the daughter of an old friend of mine, and both her parents were dead, as was her only sibling, who ODed.) She’d been on her own since she was about 18, couch-surfing among all kinds of low-lifes. For awhile, she lived with the ex-husband of some relative or other, who was apparently supporting a whole family of druggies and prostitutes.

            She told me quite a few hair-raising stories. A couple of times I told her, “You shouldn’t associate with people like that.” The thing is, I don’t think she even knew that there are any other kind of people. An added problem is that the better type of people won’t associate with you, if you’re foul-mouthed, ignorant, dishonest, and childish.

            Trump probably just comes from a millieu where he’s never known anyone who wasn’t essentially a self-dealing asshole. He probably doesn’t know that any other kind of people exist.

            As to whether Trump is a good guy or a bad guy, I don’t have any way of knowing. Not that there are any real “good guys” in the political arena, or much of anywhere else.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 11:49 pm #

            “They all suck, sort of the point of today’s article.” ~ MaryQueen

            And not in a good way. Naturally, there’s bad sucking and then there’s good sucking.

        • Q. Shtik May 29, 2023 at 3:02 pm #

          How come every time someone mentions a Trump blunder up here, it’s because…etc.

          ==========

          I realize this is totally unimportant to anyone but me here on this blog but I must ask, in what sense is it up here? Why is it not over here or down here or better yet just plain “here?”

          I sincerely DO wonder about people’s choice of words.

          • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 3:46 pm #

            I wonder at your need to correct others when your own vernacular is usually flawed.

          • Q. Shtik May 29, 2023 at 10:14 pm #

            I wonder at your need to correct others when your own vernacular is usually flawed. – MQ

            ===========

            Really? Usually, you say?

            I’ve written eleven comments today not counting this one. Please point out a half dozen flaws in those comments. I want to be made aware of them so I can avoid such flaws in the future.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 12:00 am #

            Q. Schtick, language is dynamic, of course– evolutionary like your own genetics– and, as Laurie Anderson once said/sang, language is a virus.

            I think some author may have even said something to the effect that language is a virus from outer space. Burroughs?

            As you may have noticed (and why wouldn’t you have?), I have evolved your nickname yet again and might keep doing so over time until it is unrecognizable and ‘you’ are essentially a new species.

            —-

            Language Is a Virus (Remastered)

            youtu.be/h2B406WiyKQ

          • Q. Shtik May 31, 2023 at 12:02 pm #

            I’ve written eleven comments today not counting this one. Please point out a half dozen flaws in those comments. – Q responding to MQ’s accusation

            ==========

            Well, MQ, you have not pointed out any flaws within 11 comments. I assume you actually found none.

      • Clarksonfarms May 29, 2023 at 11:38 am #

        Isn’t Trump the one who uncovered all the corruption? Didn’t his Presidency, rife with obstructionists, outperform every Presidency since Reagan? Now is not the time to throw him under the bus. He is the only one who can right the ship. He loves America, and is NOT a politician. Please recommend someone better suited, and I will consider it. Anyone can criticize… but solutions are few.

        • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 1:00 pm #

          Yes, despite everything. De Santis is simply Bush 3. More wars in the Middle East – probably Iran next.

          • Mick May 29, 2023 at 1:18 pm #

            If there is a war in the M.E. that involves the US, it will have to be against Saudi Arabia this time. They’re giving the Empire the finger and moving away from the ‘dollar deal’.

            But anyway, you’re wrong. DeSantis’ job will be a war with China.

        • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 1:07 pm #

          My solution to the covid nuttery was stop doing it.

          Most of the obstructionists were in his own party, and he kept trying to deal with them. He’s sstill on good terms with Lindsey Graham last I heard, and Lindsey was going to help him fight corruption.

        • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 1:40 pm #

          Trump didn’t uncover anything I didn’t know about, along with millions of others.

          • Clarksonfarms May 29, 2023 at 1:58 pm #

            He most certainly did uncover that his own election campaign was spied upon.
            He never stopped with his message of fake Russian collusion, and election fraud.
            Politicians promise everything, then get elected, do nothing until the next election cycle, and then promise everything again. He made good on majority of his campaign promises. There are many problems that only an outlier can address.

          • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 3:45 pm #

            Trump did? Or people who worked for him did? Which is it, and how do you know?

          • Clarksonfarms May 29, 2023 at 10:20 pm #

            “Trump did? Or people who worked for him did? Which is it, and how do you know?”

            Who cares? If someone shot Trump, you would blame Trump.

            Your leftist pretzel logic can’t justify your hate.

            The left spied on, colluded against, broke how many laws, and many should have went straight to jail. I will savor the day when real justice is served. But I won’t hold my breath thinking anything will change on the left.

          • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 11:11 pm #

            Leftist pretzel logic?

            LOL.

            I don’t hate Trump, I don’t even know him.

            But you sure just revealed who you are. A limited thinker who makes assumptions when he can’t discuss something rationally.

            You get extra negative points for adding a really stupid strawman argument.

        • King Islander May 29, 2023 at 11:23 pm #

          In the event Trump is not killed and can get past the fraud margin, not sure how he can force the agencies to follow the law. The Uniparty will not confirm any meaningful appointments. The military will disobey him. If we had 2 distinct parties in competition, but we have long been a one party state. There are no other candidates remotely interested in restoring the rule of law or a functioning nation. That said the task is massive with no assistance from any vestige of an honest government agency.

        • C.O.Jones May 31, 2023 at 11:30 am #

          Trump was inept on his best day. He didn’t “lock her up.” He didn’t drain the swamp but instead got his backside kicked by Nancy Pelosi at every turn. He appointed one swamp rat after another and each one betrayed him from Jeff Sessions to Tillerson – even to the utterly corrupt head of the FBI who helped persecute Trump!
          Trump got us out of the Paris Accord and out of TPP. Outside of those 2 things I can’t think of anything he did but let his daughter and her husband run the country. Trump permitted the lockdown aka the single event that created more billionaires than any other event. He destroyed what was left of the middle class with his crony capitalist – pronounced welfare for the rich – approach. Trump permitted the lockdown and takes credit for the death shot that killed my brother.

          Recommend someone better suited? Sure: RFK Jr.

          • Clarksonfarms May 31, 2023 at 12:34 pm #

            Hmmm, never met an inept billionaire.
            Record success in minority employment, higher wages, international peace, took on China, and NATO countries not paying their share – to name but a small percentage of his accomplishments. How many would have stood up to the machine that tried to take him down, daily! He coined the term “fake news” , so I’ll just stop here and let you contemplate that.
            I was taken advantage of by a developer, so I wasn’t a fan. But we are all sinners, and Trump is no different. He deserved a chance and made the most of it IMO. Compare him at a press conference to Biden, inept?

      • FGB3 May 31, 2023 at 1:21 pm #

        No problem Oyl. It was a better rant, i.e. somewhat relevant, than was the one about “masculinity” ad nauseum that garnered about 50 replies all masturbating on the same silly subject.

  6. dorn May 29, 2023 at 9:50 am #

    The 10 professions with the most psychopaths

    w.businessinsider.com/professions-with-the-most-psychopaths-2018-5?op=1

    • Frank Buttitch May 29, 2023 at 10:13 am #

      Bloggers are #11

    • Woodchuck May 29, 2023 at 10:48 am #

      I didn’t click on that but I’m assuming politicians are included on the list. As I’ve posted before around here, republics are short lived and unstable because they attract psychopaths and sociopaths in the same way that candle flames attract moths. Having the levers of absolute government power available to anyone and everyone obsessed and driven enough to try and seize power is a recipe for disaster and always will be. Hereditary monarchies have been so far the only way to keep all the mentally ill people away from being able to control governments. Being a head of state or some sort of minister to a head of state should be viewed as a miserable and boring job and something done as a duty and an obligation to your nation. A position you look forward to retiring from. It should not be something done to enrich the person/people in power and satisfying their sick needs to have power and control over others.

      • Rodulf May 29, 2023 at 11:06 am #

        Trouble with Royalty is that they inbreed and produce the same psychopaths.

        • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 11:15 am #

          Yes, indeed. And they weed out or kill the empaths.

          • JohnAZ May 29, 2023 at 11:52 am #

            All the reasons the FF outlawed nobility in the Constitution. Today we have groups trying to create a U.S. nobility, Kennedys, Bushes to name two. One thing that appealed to me about Trump was his desire to tear down the dynasties, and he did.

            Nothing is more psycho than celebrity worship, the awe shown toward the ..”nobility “ of Hollywood for example. Much of our current deviancy can be attributed to these celebrities.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 1:33 pm #

            When I was in the grocery-store checkout line last week, I tapped on a magazine on its rack of other magazines that a shy young couple ahead of me in line were perusing and I said something like, “I can’t take this clown seriously.”.

            The front page of the magazine I tapped featured King Charles all decked out in his new clown suit. The couple sort of chuckled quietly and shyly, exchanging discreet glances and mumblings of apparent agreement.

          • Mike Sherman May 29, 2023 at 6:59 pm #

            “One thing that appealed to me about Trump was his desire to tear down the dynasties, and he did.

            Nothing is more psycho than celebrity worship…” JohnAZ

            Huh? In what ways did Trump tear down the ‘dynasties’? Has he not created his OWN dynasty? And you’re right about hero worship…but you cannot recognize your own psychopathy in constantly boosting Trump.

          • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 11:12 pm #

            Mike Sherman you nailed it.

          • messianicdruid May 30, 2023 at 9:41 am #

            Take away the money [ power ] . Trump already had his. He isn’t doing it for money.

        • Woodchuck May 30, 2023 at 1:13 pm #

          Inbreeding among the old European royalty was indeed a bad idea and I doubt if anyone nowadays thinks it is ok including the current members of various defunct ancient monarchies. Historians joke about Hapsburgs having characteristically misshapen jaws due to inbreeding. The Amish also have these issues, and it’s also why people often notice that many Amish have all the same features and look rather similar to each other. Inbreeding was the source of hemophilia in the Romonav dynasty. Inbreeding is the cause of major problems regarding failing hips in the German shepherd dog breed etc. etc. Cousins might be able to produce ok offspring every now and then, but I think everybody today is knowledgeable about the relationship between inbreeding and genetic defects. We all know that making cousin to cousin marriages into a centuries long family practice is a recipe for disaster.

      • FGB3 May 31, 2023 at 1:30 pm #

        Republics, the best form of government for a moral people.
        And that’s why they never work.

    • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 11:59 am #

      In slogging through a book about salt, I have come to realize that people in the medical profession don’t have to be psychopaths to just blithely commit ignorant and cruel acts without considering the effect on the patient at all.

      I’m thinking here about the blanket advice given to expectant mothers to avoid salt.

      First of all, pregnancy is not a disease. Second, even if it were, you are supposed to treat the patient, not the disease.

      We all saw the harm done during the scamdemic when some people who weren’t even there were prescribing treatment for individuals with an illness they didn’t know that much about.

      Haven’t we all heard the old jokes about pregnant women craving pickles?

      Cravings during pregnancy are for what your body needs, and pregnant women need salt.

      Yet doctors uniformly tell pregnant women to stop consuming something that humans need for life itself.

      How cruel is that?

      Some women have severe morning sickness. What do you lose when you can’t stop vomiting?

      Then there are pediatricians who didn’t stand up to evil old bitch from Hell Randi Weingarten when she dictated sadistic smothering of children to the mentally defective liar Rochelle Walensky who was nominally heading the CDC because they couldn’t get a decent human being to lie like that.

      • Paula D May 30, 2023 at 10:32 am #

        You lose potassium.

      • Woodchuck May 30, 2023 at 1:24 pm #

        Pregnancy isn’t a disease? You are speaking like a medical heretic!

        Men in medicine are far more knowledgeable about giving birth than would be the average woman of today. These women all need help. For example, men figured out that for a woman to give birth with her back vertical position and the baby coming out with the assistance of gravity is all wrong. Instead the woman giving birth must do this in prone position so she is forced to push harder. Doctors everywhere understand these simple facts of physics.

        gross out warning………

        For example – and forgive me for making such a crude analogy – but doctors everywhere know that the proper way to defecate is to do it in prone position. Doctors all have special toilets that have padded platforms in front on the same level as the toilet seat, and they shit sideways in level position into the toilet. If they are coonstipated and have problems they get an assistant with a small pair of tongs to reach into their bums and help pull the stuff out.

        • Paula D May 30, 2023 at 9:11 pm #

          Prone means on your stomach. I assumed you meant supine in the first paragraph, but have no idea what you are talking about in the second. Now you think prone means sideways?

          • Woodchuck May 31, 2023 at 11:46 am #

            I’m blaming this fiasco on pot.

          • Paula D May 31, 2023 at 12:18 pm #

            Ha, ha, now it makes more sense.

        • Anthea June 1, 2023 at 9:53 am #

          Very few women need any kind of medical intervention for childbirth. The real need for C-sections is aroung 2%, yet in hospital births, it is now around 30%. Back when I was having kids, the C-section rate was up to 25%, and that was considered a scandal.

          Meanwhile, the real needs of pregnant women are neglected. They are provided with little or no information about the birthing process, how to ease the process, and how to manage pain. They’re effectively kept in ignorance about the whole thing. Thus, the doctors and the hospitals are able to manage the whole process for maximum profit by performing the maximum number of medical procedures, many or most of which are deleterious.

          In some hospitals, it is customary to wait until the mother is at an extremely painful stage of labor before presenting her with a stack of forms to sign that are the size of a Sears-Roebuck catalog. I assume they are mostly to the effect that the hospital can do whatever it wants without liability.

          Women really, REALLY need to shun hospitals in favor of midwife-assisted home birth–for their own good and the good of their babies.

          The doctors and almost all the other information sources have women terrified to give birth without medical assistance. And of course, all their friends who have kids will tell them that giving birth is a harrowing experience, because giving birth in a hospital IS a harrowing experience. For women who have their kids at home, giving birth is one of life’s peak experiences.

  7. RaymondR May 29, 2023 at 10:03 am #

    Moral and spiritual bankruptcy precedes financial bankruptcy

  8. tom clark May 29, 2023 at 10:03 am #

    One has to be a psychopath to be a “leader” nowadays…comes w/ the territory.

    • Woodchuck May 29, 2023 at 10:55 am #

      Not always, but often. For example, Mr. Putin isn’t showing signs of being a psychopath. The work he is focused on is all about Russia and not just about Putin. Just as George Washington didn’t like political parties and had no obsessions or desires to have power just for its own sake. He wanted to go back to being a farmer. That’s how a normally healthy and non-psycho person thinks and behaves.

    • JohnAZ May 29, 2023 at 11:46 am #

      Yes, one must be a narcissist enough and power motivated enough to survive the BS that is now Washington DC.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 2:02 pm #

      The system, the State, itself, is psychosociopathic and pathetic and so it selects for psychosociopathology that likely gets worse over time a la butterfly effect.

      Incidentally, apparently it is or might be an El Nino year and with potentially more, and/or more devastating, hurricanes.

  9. Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 10:10 am #

    Beautiful. Terribly beautiful.

    I came up with the idea for an impromptu visit to the graves of some of my ancestors this morning.

    I almost forget that this being Monday, there would be a column for me to read.

    This certainly puts my in an appropriate mood for the trip.

    • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 1:13 pm #

      The dead are the silent majority. We must speak for them. What would our Mighty Dead say about throwing away all their hard work and sacrifice and giving the country away to foreigners and the aliens within?

  10. docmartin May 29, 2023 at 10:21 am #

    The kickoff to the socio- psychopaths final takeover came with the installation of queer CIA child, Obama. Born from CIA operatives, a father that abandoned him and at ten a mother who did also. He was excellent fodder for the twisted elite, biracial and gay with zero attachments. He was the perfect construct to lure youth, guilty white women and the Democrat plantation black population to push him over the top. Now one might argue that all presidents after JFK were owned by the CIA, but Obama was the first pure version of their mission

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    • Rodulf May 29, 2023 at 10:25 am #

      Totally concur.

      • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 10:52 am #

        So do I.

        Oprah helped him along, now she’s cut all ties with Chicago because she cannot bear the utter collapse she helped bring about with her foolishness.

        • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 1:15 pm #

          She’s a vicious anti-White racist who thinks her race is better than Whites – the stupid Whites who gave her everything.

          She’s wrong.

          • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 2:10 pm #

            I think she has White Envy.

            Look how she fawns over that Meghan and her light complexion.

    • JohnAZ May 29, 2023 at 11:43 am #

      Think about this.

      MLK tried to unify the Black community mid century. He got the civil rights actions with LBJ.

      Nothing happened, the gimme mentality of the majority of the Black community remains to this day. MLK tried to inspire his group with very limited effect.

      Now to 2004. The keynote speaker at the Dem convention. A young senator from Illinois, half Black. Ambitious, well spoken. I remember thinking then that he was the next candidate in 2008.

      His dream was a continuation of MLKs, but his method was different. Government control and domination would force the income and ambition difference with the Blacks. BLM, now bankrupt, and Wokesterism are legacies of his failure and the Black return to dependency. His legacy lives on as demonstrated by the latest gimme grab, reparations.

      • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 12:05 pm #

        Where is this black community?

        You don’t know that the majority of black Americans have this gimme mentality. You only know what the black “leaders” selected by the white-owned media are saying.

        What lives on as Obama’s legacy is pitting blacks against whites, women against men, North against South etc. and people don’t even see how they are being manipulated.

        • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 1:17 pm #

          This is your inner fool talking. Your White Liberalism. Your feminine, I’m George Floyd’s mommy syndrome.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 2:09 pm #

            You seem truly lost.

          • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 2:14 pm #

            When did I ever utter one word of support for George Floyd?

            I give him the same amount of pity I give any human who died on the ground of a drug overdose.

            It isn’t his fault how people used his corpse for political purposes.

            Liberals think I’m an alt-right conspiracy theorist. They may be right, but I don’t know what alt-right even is.

          • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 2:15 pm #

            Do you think George Floyd’s body is incorruptible?

          • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 2:16 pm #

            Well said, Beryl. Floyd was a great man who changed the world.

            Change is good!

      • badberries May 29, 2023 at 9:20 pm #

        The venerable brother Malcolm X is quoted as saying,
        “if you want to hide something from a black man, put it in a book”.

  11. Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 10:24 am #

    There is research that suggests not all psychopaths are born that way; and those that are made that way can therefore be unmade.

    They’d better hurry up, because I see a line every single day outside the legal pot dispensary, and that which can make you psychotic is likely to turn you toward psychopathic behavior, is it not?

    That CBD crap was just the first step and people didn’t even see what was coming.

    • K-Chien May 29, 2023 at 10:52 am #

      Dude, you just need a strain the right terpines!

      Pssssssssst, Are you feeling a profound desire to change the humanity of the line outside the door?

      And if you ‘turn on’ you could change your moniker to Gram of Hash Oil!

      • K-Chien May 29, 2023 at 10:53 am #

        A strain with the right terpines!

      • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 1:19 pm #

        They killed Socrates by making him drink turpentine.

        Here you are getting high with it like some old junky. What would S0-Crates say?

        • Anthea May 30, 2023 at 7:57 pm #

          @ Jarek:

          It was hemlock, not turpentine.

          Interestingly, hemlock is a very common weed. Around here, it grows everywhere along the roadsides.

          • Jarek May 31, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

            No terps in hemlock?

          • Anthea June 1, 2023 at 4:27 am #

            Terpenes are not turpentine. From what I’ve been able to find out about the chemical constituents of hemlock, it appears to contain no terpenes. Wikipedia lists several alkaloids.

    • Woodchuck May 29, 2023 at 11:13 am #

      I’ve been to drunk festivals and pot festivals. The most notable yearly blowout for drunks whereby we can observe first hand what alcohol does – is the Munich Oktoberfest. I’ve been there and done that. I’ve also been to huge rock festivals where pot and acid was everywhere and nobody was drinking alcohol.

      The Oktoberfest drunks are falling all over themselves, puking, and every now and then you’ll see a serious fight. On the other hand, the potheads were very well behaved in comparison. I was at one festival with around 400,000 people in attendence. There were NO cops anywhere, no fights, and people were helping each other, sharing rides, food, dope, water, etc. To me, the differences were very obvious between gatheriings of drunks and gatherings of potheads.

      We could probably call our US Congress a gathering of geriatric pill heads and drunks. If our Congress was smoking pot instead we’d be better off.

      • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 3:42 pm #

        I disagree, this is not your grammaw’s pot.

        Kids have gone completely psychotic on whatever stuff is out there now.

        • Paula D May 29, 2023 at 8:41 pm #

          Agree. I was in San Francisco with a bunch of family members and one of them provided legal pot to the rest of them.
          Not me. It makes me paranoid, even the old skunk weed stuff.

          Anyway, one of the family members was looking kinda pale. I was looking at him, thinking about asking him how he was doing, and all of a sudden, he stood up, and then went down, out cold.

          I tended to him and he recovered, so we carried on, but then the paramedics showed up.
          Say what? The restaurant workers had called them.
          They tried to convince him that he was having heart attack, but I gave them the side eye and ran through the checklist of MI symptoms, none of which he had. Then they asked me if I was a nurse and I said yes.

          Anyway, they convinced him to go out to the ambulance and have an EKG. It took a long time, so I went out to see what was going on.

          They were talking to Medical Control, so I kicked back and talked with them while we were waiting.

          They said that ever since pot had been legalized they spent a shitload of their time dealing with people who had bad reactions. They said the products being sold were all over the place with the amount of THC in them, and they were way stronger than the old illegal products.

          Eventually they released my relative into my care, and it worked out.

          • FGB3 May 31, 2023 at 1:41 pm #

            Ah! I see. I wondered why I didn’t like cannabis anymore. Back when I was a young, care-free, irresponsible 20-something, it was great. A few years ago I bought some Durban Poison thinking it would be the best approx. of the sativa high, and I got totally freaked out! Say what? All I wanted was a nice, cerebral Acapulco Gold high and I got the devil weed from hell! I then reflected on something George Carlin once said, in effect it was that when he was writing he just needed a couple of tokes and he was good to go. But I was smoking that Durban stuff like it was just plain old Mexican dope from 1970. In any event, I’m having enough trouble remembering things now when it’s important. So no more dope for me.

      • butter56 May 30, 2023 at 10:33 am #

        I tried both but drinking is way load more fun. Even if you wind up burning down the town

    • dale May 29, 2023 at 12:01 pm #

      It is not. There are pharmaceuticals that promote sociopathic indifference. Weed however, is not one of them, and particularly CBD. I respectfully submit that you may have a blind spot you’re unaware of.

      • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 12:16 pm #

        Grass always promoted apathy. I was there.

        The new cannabis is not your grandparents’ grass. It is much stronger.

        I did not say that CBD does this, I did not say that weed causes psychosis in everyone who uses it.

        Alex Berenson wrote a book about this, and we are now seeing more and more acknowledgement by the media that research is proving him right.

        Blind? No. My eyes are wide open.

        • Mick May 29, 2023 at 1:22 pm #

          Yes, marijuana has definitely changed. And interestingly it is much stronger in THC levels at a time when it is become legal in state after state.

          Oh well, toke up America. You’re fucked. Gonna need it for more pain relief soon. Including that horrific pain that comes from starving to death.

        • dale May 29, 2023 at 7:58 pm #

          Blind spot, not blind.

        • badberries May 29, 2023 at 9:25 pm #

          I had a neighbor drop a doob on me thinking I’d spark it up but, those days are gone. The interesting thing was the packaging. It was outta CA. in a box named “Lowells Smokes” it gave the laboratory tested quality as 23% THC-A. Holy shit!!

      • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 1:22 pm #

        Also been there. A very, very difficult drug to classify. You may lay out the music you’re going to listen to and the ice cream you’re going to eat, and then end up calling someone you haven’t spoken to in years.

        You can never be sure where it’s going to take you.

        If you are sure, then you’ve probably developed a resistance to it, and you’re just dulling yourself out as Beryl says.

      • Amman May 29, 2023 at 5:53 pm #

        From my personal experience, weed is def. a pusher drug for anything goes.

        Nowadays, it worse with talk of fentanyl-laced weed.

        • Soul Forensics May 30, 2023 at 4:52 am #

          I’ve a good friend whose 18 year-old son died one night from fentanyl-laced weed. When I was 18, getting high was a weekend lark and diversion. Now, it’s like playing Russian roulette.

          • Amman May 30, 2023 at 5:12 am #

            Playing with Soros.

          • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 12:53 pm #

            Extraordinary. Glad I missed this madness. Grow you own or abstain.

          • C.O.Jones May 31, 2023 at 12:05 pm #

            We used to say 5 drunk guys will start a fight and 5 stoned guys will start a band…glad I don’t do any of that stuff anymore but thinking maybe the reason they legalized is all the fentanyl polluted stuff on the market. Best to go legal if possible.

    • U R IntheVillage May 31, 2023 at 2:11 pm #

      In 30+ years of responding to ER calls to treat injuries sustained by people participating in stupid activities, the vast, vast majority were related to alcohol consumption. Whether it was falling off a roof or a barstool, getting in a fight, robbing a liquor store or water-skiing into a rock on the shore, it was nearly always accompanied by alcohol consumption.

      Way back in 2nd place were injuries in which the person was using some drug like meth or PCP.

      I can’t remember a single ER call that I could blame on cannabis.

      But I’m sure Alex Berenson knows something I don’t.

  12. Paula D May 29, 2023 at 10:32 am #

    Scum rises to the top. The system is set up to reward the greedy and ruthless.
    There used to be laws to deter their crimes, but the justice system no longer works.

    18 years for walking into a public building, 180 days for raping children.
    .postbulletin.com/news/local/rochester-man-given-180-days-in-jail-for-raping-juvenile-females

    War is a Racket, the only business in which profits are measured in dollars and losses are measured in blood.
    Smedley Butler

    • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 11:21 am #

      Hell, a child rapist is being coddled and considered a valuable member of the homeless solutions board (or whatever they call it) in San Francisco. One of the other board members spoke up about it and was shut down:

      https://youtu.be/tFXu0eqwl1c

    • malthuss May 29, 2023 at 11:35 am #

      the powers that be are into pedophilia.

      recall the Mc Martins case? and ties to judges etc?

      the singing pair The Righteous Brothers, one of the 2 had an ex wife, she had a child at that pre school…she was murdered.

      remember Pizzagate. see wiki for that.

      NEVER BELIEVE ANYTHING UNTIL IT IS OFFICIALLY DENIED.

    • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 1:25 pm #

      Yes, Kafka and the Trial. Stalin going to lunch with terrified “comrades” who know they are doomed.

      Paula likes Stalin! Likes? Nay, loves…..

      She had learned to love Big Brother.

  13. K-Chien May 29, 2023 at 10:47 am #

    A serious question!

    Are people who oppose immigration sociopaths?

    It is easy to label the other guy as a sociopath, but what about yourself?

    KDog’s answer is yes.

    • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 10:55 am #

      Who opposes immigration? I oppose an invasion by criminals. You don’t?

      • K-Chien May 29, 2023 at 11:14 am #

        I took care not to use the word illegal. I let someone else stick their neck in that noose.

        And that be U.

        By your logic this nation was founded by criminals. So was Australia and every other English speaking country except for one island in the Atlantic Ocean.

        You can’t call anyone wanting to find a new land and a better life a criminal without sounding like a fucking idiot.

        And that be U.

        • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 11:23 am #

          You’re probably the biggest sociopath up here next to Jarek, so I find this really hilarious.

          • Mick May 29, 2023 at 1:24 pm #

            No, he’s too dumb and naive to be a sociopath.

            Now Jarek, yes. A huge sociopath.

          • Mick May 29, 2023 at 3:05 pm #

            Oh, I can’t let my above post ride regarding Jarek. I disagree with him on quite a few things, but I don’t actually think he’s a sociopath. I’d have to see someone IRL for a while to determine that kind of “diagnosis”. And even then, it would be a lay person’s diagnosis.

          • Jarek May 31, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

            Than you, Mick. You have a conscience and know that you have a problem in this regard (bad mouthing people).

            Mary does not.

        • JohnAZ May 29, 2023 at 11:30 am #

          Bull, Dog.

          The world today, including the US and Canada, is becoming resource limited. The immigration apologists forget that immigration, per the Statue of Liberty verse, is wonderful as long as the region being emigrated to is resource wealthy enough to support the newbies along with the current population.

          The world no longer has that ability, even the USA.

          A country that cannot control its border is not a country. We have arrived at that point.

          Canada is next, when the cartels find political reality starts to raise US resistance to the WEF funded invasion, The cartels will move their empire north.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 3:19 pm #

            Like blobs in a lava lamp, one State merges into another and the countries (not to be confused with the States) become one again.

          • Amman May 29, 2023 at 5:46 pm #

            “The world today, including the US and Canada, is becoming resource limited.”

            Tell that to the rich.

          • benr May 30, 2023 at 7:16 am #

            Can’t control nay refuses to control vast difference.

        • malthuss May 29, 2023 at 11:32 am #

          Who opposes immigration?

          I do.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 3:21 pm #

            Where do you people come from?

            Immigration is natural. Many animals do it, including humans. Opposing it seems sort of like opposing salmon migrating from the ocean and up rivers to spawn.

          • Paula D May 29, 2023 at 8:44 pm #

            Migration is not immigration.

            You haven’t been around many animals if you don’t understand that they protect their territory.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 12:12 am #

            Paula, it’s nowhere near so simple as some of you seem to want to frame it.

          • Paula D May 30, 2023 at 10:42 am #

            KesaAnna talked about the logistics of feeding an army.

            True enough. Who feeds the thousands of people who supposedly walk thousands of miles, in flip-flops no less, through jungles and deserts to “migrate” to the US?

            Where do they get their water? Where do they get their new flip-flops when they wear out? Where do they eliminate their waste?
            How do toddlers manage to find their way?

            It isn’t that simple. Someone or something is providing food, water and transportation to these hordes.

            And there is a reason, and it isn’t “natural”.

          • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 12:58 pm #

            Defending your borders is natural too. Watch the Empire of the Chimps. Or study lions. Or ants. Or humans.

            If you can’t protect your borders, then you lose. And the new people take your stuff and your women.

            “Natural” is a very bad prescription for action. Za is not our friend. Apply everything he says to Israel and watch his reaction.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 3:09 pm #

            You can’t wall up States all over the place, rather like you can’t drain the swamps or marshes all over the place. The State creates its own problems in migration regards and not just for humans, so I agree on the one hand.

        • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 12:19 pm #

          I didn’t say illegal. You did.

          Finding a better life is a bumper sticker canned talking point and people who use canned talking poits sound like fucking idiots.

          Put down the bong and read better.

          • Mick May 29, 2023 at 1:24 pm #

            He can’t help it. He’s an Oregonian. Which is a synonym for dumber than shit.

          • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 1:55 pm #

            Zing!

          • Q. Shtik May 29, 2023 at 4:29 pm #

            talking poits – B of O

            ==========

            Is there something wrong with the n key on your keyboard? 🙂

        • Night Owl May 29, 2023 at 4:02 pm #

          “You can’t call anyone wanting to find a new land and a better life a criminal without sounding like a fucking idiot.”

          You can if they enter your country illegally.

          Once again, reality crashes through the front door of your gumdrop palace.

        • jgalt May 30, 2023 at 3:05 pm #

          Yes we can call illegals criminals for breaking our laws and entering illegally, then living or surviving solely on our taxpayer money while there are millions of homeless, including veterans, on our streets. INHO they are being sheparded in by the Demoncraps solely for their support against American citizens ala antifa and blm, Demoncrap storm troopers wanabees. They could come legally but do not want to wait in line, which you agree with, but most Americans do not. Personally, I would love to see each and every one of them ushered out of the U.S. on election of either Trump or De Santas. You leftist freak are the fucking idiot!

      • malthuss May 29, 2023 at 11:32 am #

        Who opposes immigration?

        I do.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 3:24 pm #

          Where do you people come from?

          Immigration is natural. Many animals do it, including humans. Opposing it seems sort of like opposing salmon migrating from the ocean and up rivers to spawn.

          • Q. Shtik May 29, 2023 at 4:37 pm #

            Immigration is natural. Many animals do it, including humans. – Zazelle

            =========

            Watch Netflix series Chimp Empire. See what happens when one group of chimps comes into the area occupied by another group of chimps. Death for some ensues.

            Read The Territorial Imperative.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 4:46 pm #

            Ok so?

          • Q. Shtik May 29, 2023 at 10:31 pm #

            Opposing it seems sort of like opposing salmon migrating from the ocean and up rivers to spawn. – Zazelle

            ==========

            It is nothing whatsoever like salmon swimming up stream to spawn. And no one opposes this instinct. In fact we humans try to assist them in their trek.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 12:23 am #

            The State model/map is an extremely relatively-recent human construct and is a bit of a zoo/prison/panopticon and not to be confused– at least by myself LOL– with a territory in the natural sense nor even a ‘country’.

            Sure zoos exist and some human animals seem perfectly content in them what with all their iron bars, controls, rules and ‘pathocracies’ and so forth.

            ‘Territory’, like your English language, is malleable, fluid, interpretive and so on. At the same time, we don’t have only one species or only one group of a species on a particular ‘territory’– whatever it is– either. We have diversity and such things as symbioses.

      • cbeard May 29, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

        I oppose both. Immigration and invasion by criminals.

        • malthuss May 29, 2023 at 5:49 pm #

          THANKS

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 9:13 am #

            USA officials would appear to want to eat their illegal immigrants and have them too.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 12:27 am #

          Immigration opposes opposition. LOL

          Fuck illegality.

        • jgalt May 30, 2023 at 3:09 pm #

          Agree.

      • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 1:32 pm #

        Things are what they are because they’re not something. Things are particular – or not at all. Your kidney is your kidney because it’s not your heart. If these organs get confused about that, the body dies.

        Kdog is utterly confused, seeing a nation as an employment agency or a welfare office. Beryl thinks that putting “legal” in front of it is a magic word. Just legalize them all like Bush and yes, even Trump, said, and it’s all “jake”.

        The Mary/Mick haters chime in because the world’s not perfect and anyone who talks about its laws and limitations is a “hater”.

        Why can’t we float all over the place? Because of the Law of Gravity. No, you’re just a hater. Like that.

        America is a White, Western nation or was supposed to so. Everything that mitigates against that is destructive. The mitigation didn’t start yesterday. The desire to make a quick buck has always been our undoing.

        • K-Chien May 29, 2023 at 3:01 pm #

          Why you be calling me confused bro?

          Did I say let them in? No I did not.

          Seems my attempt to bring some honesty to this:

          My – my aren’t we just better than everybody else party missed the mark.

          Concerning the haters. If I was a sociopath it is nice to be considered ‘the biggest and #1. Sorry you be #2 Jarek.

          And to get to Oregon I have to drive a hundred miles.

          Oooh wait, If I am a sociopath I can’t be sorry that you are #2. I take the I am sorry part back. I am sure you understand. 🙂

          • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 5:32 pm #

            A serious question!

            Are people who oppose immigration sociopaths?

            It is easy to label the other guy as a sociopath, but what about yourself?

            KDog’s answer is yes.

            KDog

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 12:38 am #

            “Are people who oppose immigration sociopaths?” ~ Jarek

            —-

            What kind of question is that?

            If we didn’t have the State creating artificial constructs of various sorts, arbitrary lines on the planet and including psychological ones, and CCTV’s, etc., around people, then migration would probably be less of an issue, save for this territorial ‘meme’ dished out hereon.

            Besides, doesn’t some ‘constitution’ or another speak of the freedom of movement or somesuch? Not that I give a shit… How’s your constitution? Try prune juice if it’s a little slow.

            The main reason why some people might be bothered by it is precisely because of the State’s manufactured artificialities surrounding people and natural migration rather than issues of ‘chimp and other animals’ territoriality, which seems a bit of a red herring. But I’ll stop short of outright suggesting that.

          • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 1:02 pm #

            The Indian Tribes didn’t have “a State” but they had territories and rough borders – which they would defend ferociously against other tribes.

            Your paradigm is flawed. You’re in the position of the Global Warming Cultists who have to try and explain away the late Roman warm period.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 8:05 pm #

            Your State paradigm is flawed and territories are not composed of monocultures. They are naturally-diverse, shared and symbiotic.

            Kindly pull your head out of your ass.

          • Jarek May 31, 2023 at 12:29 pm #

            So you finally admit the Indian tribes had territory and defended it, just like chimps, lions, and ants do?

            And that you made a whole slew of stupid comments until we corrected you?

        • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 3:06 pm #

          I didn’t say anything about legal versus illegal immigration Jarek you nut.

          • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 3:40 pm #

            He’s really gone off the deep end lately.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 4:51 pm #

            You mean he wasn’t already there?

          • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 5:33 pm #

            You said you were against an invasion by criminals. Ok, bright eyes, what did you really mean?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 12:49 am #

            If you have a natural two-way fluid ‘border’ (so to speak), then some so-called ‘criminals’ (politiFUD-alert) can leave while others arrive. So the issue seems to sort of cancel itself out.

            So you see? The anarchist lens is truly a superpower. Avail yourself of it, but use it wisely because as you know, ‘With great power comes great responsibility.’ (with quote reference maybe to that Spiderman movie).

        • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 3:39 pm #

          I haven’t even opined on immigration, Jarek. So here you are lying again. This rant sounds particularly hysterical, are you on something?

          • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 5:34 pm #

            You really don’t have an opinion about the invasion of America?

            That’s very sad if true.

          • Anthea May 29, 2023 at 9:33 pm #

            @ MaryQueen:

            “are you on something?” Adderol?

            I suspect he does require prescription medications though.

          • Anthea May 29, 2023 at 9:47 pm #

            So…. I’d say it’s Adderol.

            If he were mixing the crank with the Hot Damn! (a cinnamon-flavored adult beverage that freshens you breath while it gets you shitfaced), he would be outdoors, throwing rocks at passing cars.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 12:57 am #

            As kids we, for a somewhat brief time, used to throw water balloons at passing cars until my brother got chased by an irate man in a business suit.

            My brother managed to outrun the office wanker (while I shouted, Run! Run! in the distance) and so got away. But it was too close for comfort, so we quit while we were ahead and wrapped up that fun/crazy era of our childhood and did other, less suspenseful, things.

          • messianicdruid May 30, 2023 at 6:50 pm #

            “You really don’t have an opinion about the invasion of America?”

            The United States can be invaded. America is joined.

            The Kingdom of God is a form of government not a religion.

            Bases No.

        • Q. Shtik May 29, 2023 at 10:41 pm #

          Things are what they are because they’re not something. – Jarek

          ==========

          something what?

          Let me fill in the missing word for you. It’s “else.”

          You’ve used this line several times in the past. Is this your idea of profound logic?

          • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 1:04 pm #

            You’d be amazed at how many people don’t understand the simplest things. I never get tired of the basics like a=a, a+b=b+a.

          • Q. Shtik May 31, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

            You’d be amazed at how many people don’t understand the simplest things. – Jarek

            ===========

            I’ll tell you what amazes me. It is YOU not reading what you have written and fixing errors before you submit a comment. The same goes for many others in this comment section.

            A person (i.e. me) gets the impression that people actually enjoy appearing to be stoopit.

          • Jarek May 31, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

            You misspelled stupid.

    • Woodchuck May 29, 2023 at 11:01 am #

      Go woof somewhere else doggie. And if you can’t run with us big dogs you need to stay on the porch where you belong. Go bark some about climate change instead maybe. Here in the southeast it’s almost June and it was 53 degrees last nite. Myself and my very short haired doggie were gettin’ cold, so I fired up my wood heater. Never done this before, it’s a first this late in the season. So go woof at us about how we’re all burnin’ up and only have ten more years to live…….

      • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 11:23 am #

        He’s already done that.

      • Tate May 29, 2023 at 11:55 am #

        Order precedes Law, according to a piece I read not long ago. Without Order, there is no Law. K-chien & his ilk want massive disorder so that Law becomes meaningless, hence Illegality is merely an economic condition. We are oppressing these “economic migrants” by preventing them from arriving on our Magic Dirt. Arriving on our Magic Dirt will solve all our problems (not to mention theirs.) 500 million want to arrive on our Magic Dirt, polls suggest. AI will find a place for them all. Or something.

      • draupnir May 29, 2023 at 12:21 pm #

        Ha! I live in Minnesota. I’ve seen snow in June.

        • Q. Shtik May 29, 2023 at 4:47 pm #

          I live in Minnesota. I’ve seen snow in June. – draupnir

          =======

          I was stationed 3 yrs in Duluth in the Air Force. I didn’t see snow in June but I DID see snow on May 15th. I think it was 1963.

          • draupnir May 29, 2023 at 8:53 pm #

            Disheartening, isn’t it.

          • SpeedyBB May 30, 2023 at 3:59 am #

            SHAMELESS PLUG: ‘Duluth’ is one of Gore Vidal’s finest [& funniest] novels. It starts off with two lesbians freezing to death in a car stuck in a snowbank.

            And goes downhill, merrily downward, from there.

        • badberries May 29, 2023 at 9:31 pm #

          I’m from Montana, I’ve seen snow fall in July.

          • Q. Shtik May 29, 2023 at 11:03 pm #

            I’m from Montana, I’ve seen snow fall in July. – badberries

            ==========

            WOW, how unusual.

            When a Montana native is a deadbeat who fails to pay his bills or does not pay child support imposed on him by a court and is therefore being hounded by bill collectors, does such a person run off to Florida?

            Florida is a favorite escape destination for NJ and NY Metropolitan area deadbeats like Peter and when asked “why did you move to Florida?” the answer is always the same: “I hate the cold weather up north.” None ever say “Florida is warm and the land of deadbeats and other ne’er-do-wells like me.”

          • badberries May 30, 2023 at 1:54 pm #

            q.shtik uh,… who’s Peter?
            Florida? haven’t been there since 1967. Kids? I don’t have any kids, I have a dog, does that count?

          • Q. Shtik May 31, 2023 at 12:21 pm #

            q.shtik uh,… who’s Peter? – badberries

            ============

            If you don’t know who Peter is you obviously haven’t been paying attention to my comments. Peter is my brother-in-law and the number one topic of my comments.

    • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 11:22 am #

      Illegal immigration, you mean, or regular immigration, by going through the requisite channels?

      • malthuss May 29, 2023 at 11:31 am #

        does it matter?

        Ronnie gave the first amnasty. a one time thing [right].

        Chain migration, family reunification, anchor baby citizenship.
        does it matter with these three angles at work?

        • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 12:27 pm #

          I’m against the chain immigration because it benefits the corporations while the already overtaxed middle class suffers for it.

          I meet plenty of nice people who came here because their cousin did so it was easier for them, I don’t hate them, but Americans who contributed throughout their working lives are being told we have to tighten our belts in every way imaginable because there isn’t enough to go around, meanwhile here come the elderly parents who go straight into subsidized senior housing and somehow collect social security.

          All so places like Walmart and home Depot can continue to sell the same amount of cheap crap from China as they did before the economy was wrecked yet again by the political class.

        • cbeard May 29, 2023 at 1:07 pm #

          Ronnie Raygun was one of our worst presidents of all time. He was an actor for gods sake. He fooled a lot of stupid people. How a bad grade B movie actor could be worshiped is beyond me. Amnesty, huge deficits, warmongering, destroyed working class unions, war on drugs(Cannabis listed as schedule1) He was senile when he took office.

          • K-Chien May 29, 2023 at 3:11 pm #

            Media is the propaganda channel for the upper class. Raygun did their bidding. Actors and comedians make good choices for yes men.

            In terms of stratifying America and ensuring the future of the large rentier class of useless eaters Raygun was a great guy.

            As time went on Ronnie became a vegetable, like the current mouthpiece for the upper class holding down his job,

            It becomes clear smarts don’t matter. Compliance with injustice does. We can’t maintain an upper class without injustice.

            If you change your standards Raygun becomes one of the best presidents of all time.

          • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 3:12 pm #

            Yes he was. He lost it during a debate with Walter Mondale in 1984, and he didn’t get that bad overnight.

          • Paula D May 29, 2023 at 3:22 pm #

            He’s not worshiped by anyone but dumbasses.

            The whole “We All Loved Reagan” narrative is propaganda. They started in the 80s with that bullshit and they still fling it. And like Goebbels said, if you repeat something often enough, people tend to believe it.

            Just because “everyone knows” something doesn’t mean it’s true.
            It means that the Mighty Wurlitzer has been pushing it for a long time, and that is all it means.

          • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 3:38 pm #

            Paula’s correct, everyone I knew at the time he was elected hated him. I was living in a conservative midwest town then. I don’t recall anyone (except a handful) being very excited about him. Probably a lot of the reason was that Hollywood was seen as Democrat (for good reason), and he came from there. I think a lot of conservatives figured he was some sort of bait ‘n’ switch or plant.

            And they were right, just not the way they thought.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 1:05 am #

            Ronnie Raygun, like all others, was just a label on a fundamentally-flawed/unethical system, like the proverbial lipstick on a pig.

        • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 1:36 pm #

          Yes, conservatives really showed the depth of their shallowness by electing that one.

          • Mick May 29, 2023 at 3:02 pm #

            My good friend from childhood’s WW2 veteran Dad called him, “That wooden headed bastard.” At the time I found that shocking. But as I got older I understood.

            He was a veteran of the Battle of the Bulge too. Experienced heavy combat. The ‘wooden headed bastard’ never even heard a BB gun fired in anger.

        • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

          Well in order to even begin a response to K Chien’s challenge we need to know what he’s even going on about.

          He didn’t clarify, because his aim seems to be catching people out being bigots. But it backfired, because he’s not too bright.

    • Paula D May 29, 2023 at 3:28 pm #

      They shut down immigration (except for the Ratline) from 1924 to 1964, and it led to a fairly stable society.
      That is why they opened it up again, to cause instability.

      As George Soros calls it Weapon of Mass Immigration.

      It is only sensible to shut down immigration again, and try to restabilize society.

      Otherwise, as George Bush said, “This sucker is going to blow”.

      I would posit that if anyone is a sociopath, it is someone who sees nothing wrong with millions of people invading this country through the southern border.
      Or someone who tells American youth “Learn to code or you don’t deserve anything better than basement living”
      and then supports H1B visa people taking the coding and other tech jobs.

      Now THAT is sociopathy!

      • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 3:35 pm #

        Well said, Paula.

      • Q. Shtik May 29, 2023 at 5:06 pm #

        as George Bush said, “This sucker is going to blow”. – Paula

        ==========

        Close Paula but no cigar. What George W. Bush said was “this sucker could go down.”

        Quotation marks are supposed to be used for verbatim words not paraphrased words.

        • Amman May 29, 2023 at 5:42 pm #

          Goodness sakes, Q.

      • malthuss May 29, 2023 at 5:52 pm #

        I thought the flood gate was closed before the 1920s, WW1.

        The date 1917 ??

        • Paula D May 29, 2023 at 8:46 pm #

          No. 1924. I know because my dad told me he made it through before they closed.

  14. tinfoilhatted Canuck May 29, 2023 at 11:01 am #

    James ….

    “ because our country ended up on top in the previous world war “

    Lest my American neighbours forget …. the SOVIETS won the war. Americans -like the current proxy war- played a “ lets you two fight “ strategy. D day ( as Orlov recently reminded us ) was carried out as the Soviets had already pushed the Nazis back into Poland and looked like they would keep going to the channel.

    Shame the {new} Nazis in Ukraine are supported so strongly by my country and the “defensive” NATO military alliance.

    The MIC is chock full of psychopaths to be sure. It bothers me greatly that their propaganda ( thanks for your service, home of the brave and free etc.) ensures their militaristic mis-adventures for profit and plunder carry on.

    • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 12:28 pm #

      My father fought in that war. He was not Russian he was American.

      We did end up on top.

    • Islander May 29, 2023 at 12:43 pm #

      The Soviets did the heavy lifting to break Germany and win the war. Not all the lifting, but the heavy lifting.

      At an enormous cost.

      But the Yanks ended up “on top” in western Europe, and internationally.
      The reasons do not need enumerating here.

      But the USA misused the power that fell into its lap, grinding our heal into the faces of the people of Latin America. Those chickens are coming home to roost.

      And elsewhere.Those chickens also coming home to roost. .

      We killed the best leader that the country produced, and it’s been downhill since then.

    • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

      You’re both right and wrong. Capitalism/Communism is one system. The Russians did the heavy lifting – but only succeeded because of massive funding by the Americans.

      Stalin was massing on the border. Hitler had no more choice than Putin did with Ukies massing on the border of the Donbass. Attack or wait to be attacked.

      Do nothing? The Global Elite would have loved that. Make Ukraine into their showpiece even as Putin loses all respect at home. Then a color revolution might have succeeded.

  15. RocketDoc May 29, 2023 at 11:02 am #

    The busybody nature of liberalism is founded on the hope that there is a better way to do things. It is surely true that what has been done in the past is what got us here but leaving college in the early 70’s, I had Rodney King like hopes, perhaps “we” (people, races, countries) could all get along better.

    And one thing that was obvious was that our good fortune was based on 5% of the world population consuming 25% of the world’s resources. I believe that it still roughly true.

    So when Carter said, put on a sweater it seemed logical for those of us who had enough. But the many who didn’t have enough or wanted more preferred Reagan and his buy a SUV.

    Liberalism does want to find and promote man’s better nature and I would agree it has gone off the rails a long time ago. It seems the new mantra is do good to do well. Won’t work. We have been lacking sacrificial leadership for a long time.

    The whole think globally act locally seemed prudent. I do not recall thinking “World Government” would be possible or a good idea.

    My father and I, at our weekly lunch dates before he died in Jan 2006, discussed Diamond’s “Collapse”. Clearly it was a concept entering the Zeitgeist with our host’s (and others) contribution. The war on terror had gotten the US way over its skis and cooperation was not going to be a successful strategy.

    Liberalism was supposed to be about freedom but if there is not enough to go around, then the big money wants to make sure it’s them that has it.

    So what are we little people going to do about it?

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    • JohnAZ May 29, 2023 at 11:10 am #

      Rocket doc

      Carter is much more remembered for his 55 mph speed limit on the Interstates and the resultant “Smoky and the Bandit” syndrome. It definitely sold a ton of CBs.

      • JohnAZ May 29, 2023 at 11:10 am #

        Breaker, breaker!

      • Woodchuck May 29, 2023 at 11:18 am #

        We also remember the Carter years with interest rates up to 20%. Imagine what an interest rate like that would do to our economy right now.

        • RocketDoc May 30, 2023 at 10:24 am #

          Interest rates then were a two party effort-Nixon defaulted, Ford’s WIN buttons only exacerbated the problem and Carter could do nothing, making domestic political enemies left and right.

      • RocketDoc May 30, 2023 at 10:20 am #

        I remember him more for Egypt-Israel treaty that ended up killing Anwar Sadat. The 55 limit was more honored in the breach…

    • K-Chien May 29, 2023 at 11:19 am #

      Sociopaths do not ‘hope that there is a better way to do things.

      • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 3:34 pm #

        Sure they do. Some of them are quite good at seeing the bottom line. I have a cousin who’s a sociopath, and has law and engineering degrees. He gets paid to find better ways to do things.

        I think you probably have a movie-level idea of what a sociopath is.

        Here’s a hint: They’re not all violent, in fact, most aren’t.

        • Amman May 29, 2023 at 5:39 pm #

          SOCIOPATH def.

          A person who consistently shows no regard for right and wrong and ignores the rights and feelings of others.

          Plenty violent if you ask me.

        • K-Chien May 30, 2023 at 4:07 am #

          They often have a strong need to conform and point out the faults of others.

          • Amman May 30, 2023 at 5:14 am #

            A Sociopath is a just a thug… albeit to the nth degree.

      • RocketDoc May 30, 2023 at 10:26 am #

        Many people besides sociopaths have the feeling that if others just followed their advice-things would be great.

        • Q. Shtik May 31, 2023 at 9:51 pm #

          advice-things – RocketDoc

          ==========

          IMHO your hyphenation is totally inappropriate. What does advice-things modify?

          I would suggest your sentence be rearranged to read as follows:

          Many people besides sociopaths have the feeling that things would be great if others just followed their advice.

    • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

      At least Carter was willing to put a sweater on himself.

    • Islander May 29, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

      Good comment, Rocket.

      I like that phrase “the busybody nature of liberalism.”

      On the local level, in the USA, it is, actually, often exactly the “busybodies” who get a lot done. Often these busybodies are women, or historically have been women. Of both the conservative and the “liberal” persuasion.

      Maybe that accounts for the “momism” of American busybody liberalism.

      Things are run differently in France. There is virtually no tradition of “community,” of “volunteerism” (according to a book about France that I read recently). The state takes care of everything, and the state is run by a professional civil service.

      The French revolution and its aftermath is a textbook, or case book, of a country trying to figure out how to run itself. A lot of what occurred under the “Committee of Public Safety” seems like a precursor of the Woke regime many now aspire to.

      Obviously, the run-up to the American Revolution was a similar exercise, but in a totally different setting. If was and is normal for people to expend a lot of intellectual energy on trying to figure out how to run a society, or a country.

      I love the John Waters quote. It seems to hit the nail on the head as to where liberalism has ended up, in the dreadful Woke ideology and the behaviors it spurs. But was this self-righteous form of busybody-ness inevitably a feature of “liberalism”?

      The idea of “changing humanity” implies a baseline, or a blank slate. There never has been such a thing. All societies have featured various types and areas of social controls.

      What passes for “liberalism” today seems to be a cover for a return to older forms of social control, involving controls on individuals that we thought were things of the past.

      I think the Framers, the Founding Fathers, came up with a pretty good system, after a lot of discussion.

      • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 3:33 pm #

        I also like that John Waters quote.

        The term “liberalism” doesn’t really mean much any more. When they said “build back better” they mean all our terminology, too, which they’ve destroyed the meanings of.

      • SpeedyBB May 30, 2023 at 4:36 am #

        You mentioned ‘momism’, Islander. I think that was invented by author Philip Wylie, whom I remembered recently.

        And boy did he ever sink from sight. Hot tamale in his time – nothing wrong with his critical writing about American society or dated about it but he somehow slipped between the cushions.

        Along with others I used to enjoy reading as a kid of 15, like Robert Ruark. Gone and mostly forgotten

        Even the august greats, who should be fixed in the firmament, are rusty and crusty. Who reads Henry Miller any longer? His last years were reportedly played out with him cadging meals and drinks arouond Europa on the basis of playing Henry Miller. But there was nothing left.

      • RocketDoc May 30, 2023 at 10:29 am #

        A hands off State requires a hands on citizenry. Volunteerism was an American “exceptional’ virtue. We’ve neglected it for awhile because it doesn’t “pay’.

    • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 1:49 pm #

      Yes, Rodney King asked the salient question, “Can’t we all get along?”. To his credit, he seemed heartbroken over the violence. But the answer is clear: No. Human nature dictates we get along with those like ourselves. The idea of a multi-racial nation is perilous – since they all will tend ot have their own cultures. And the idea of a multicultural nation is contradictory – since by definition a nation has one culture.

      Rodney got a sizeable settlement which he went thru in a few short years. Most Whites would have been set for life, but he wasn’t White. He was soon back to drunk driving, etc.

      His nature showed itself. His better angels were few and his worse angels or demons, were many.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 2:28 pm #

        Your writing is often like a cartoon.

        • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 2:51 pm #

          a=a. 1+1=2. a+b=b+a.

          So boring. So cartoonish. Must be wrong, right Itchy Mind?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 4:57 pm #

            Break out the calculus now.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 2:31 pm #

        youtube.com/shorts/z4YFhgRh1HQ?feature=share

        • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 3:31 pm #

          That’s well presented, to a degree. I like people like James Lindsay, who go further.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 4:16 pm #

            Oh sure, but abstracts, intros, summaries and conclusions, etc., do help too.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 4:58 pm #

            …Oh and sound-bites, and to appeal to the journalist in you.

      • malthuss May 29, 2023 at 5:54 pm #

        he died in his swimming pool?

        REGINALD DENNY. remember his name.

      • Q. Shtik May 29, 2023 at 6:41 pm #

        “Can’t we all get along?” – Jarek

        ===========

        You left out a word. Google says the famous quote was “Can’t we all just get along?”

        Close enough for government work, right? That’s what we yoose to say in the Air Farce.

        However, you’re right about Rodney blowing through the settlement money in a short period of time. It’s called being “nigger- rich.” Blacks in general are so unaccustomed to possessing wealth that they have no idea, no prior experience in how to handle it.

        I recall back in the day one of the first large lottery winnings. I may have the details wrong but it was something like this: A Black guy from Newark won $5 million. He had both a wife and a girlfriend. He lavished them and himself with whatever their hearts desired and he was broke in no time flat.

        When Peter’s house in Washington, NJ finally sold for $262,000 (he imagined it would sell for half a mil) a large portion of the proceeds went to pay off all kinds of unpaid obligations: numerous monthly mortgage payments, HOA fees, utility bills, loans from relatives and friends used to prevent foreclosure by two banks, and many others. I had loaned the most, his lifelong best friend was 2nd, his Uncle Ted was third. These amounts totaled up to $173,000. That left $89,000 available for distribution to Peter. He received a check for $80,000 in April 2019, one month after the closing and the balance of $9,000 in December 2019.

        When Peter deposited that first $80,000 he was “nigger-rich” and he went hog-wild. The first monthly bank statement following that deposit will be the starting point for the novella I plan to write titled “The Analysis of Account 3215…A Window Into the Mind and Life of Peter G.”

        • Soul Forensics May 30, 2023 at 5:27 am #

          “A Black guy from Newark won $5 million. He had both a wife and a girlfriend. He lavished them and himself with whatever their hearts desired and he was broke in no time flat.” — Q. Shtik

          One can consider all of pro sports for a larger sample size of the same story.

          Over half of all Blacks who retire from their respective pro careers (multi-millions paid out, sometimes over $100 million) are living hand to mouth a few years into retirement. Some go broke and are in debt up to their eyeballs. Many have severe problems with delayed gratification, hence all the headlines about Blacks sporting 200K chain-and-rock bling, multiple high-end cars, coke and caviar on road trips, gambling huge sums in negative expectation games controlled by the house, and, of course, top-line whores.

          One of the current NBA stars, Ja Morant, is constantly in the news the past year, waving a gun around, and getting his buddies to click photos of him with wads of cash spread on love seats in a strip joint, getting a lap dance while half naked, and thinking it a good idea to post it on social media. All the “journos” wept over his typical Black upbringing: a father who buggered off when he was a tyke, raised by a caring mama, and ending up with the hood culture crowd anyway.

          • Q. Shtik May 31, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

            One can consider all of pro sports for a larger sample size of the same story. – Soul Forensics

            ==========

            So true, Soul, and it’s not just Black athletes who earn millions but blow thru the money in short order and become paupers.

            In 1974 I began taking night school classes at Rutgers in Newark leading to an MBA in Finance. The very first class was a 3 hour finance lecture by Professor Dier. It was terrific. I never forgot it. He reviewed the lives of a dozen or so famous people who made million$$ but died broke. One was Judy Garland. Another was a famous first baseman for the NY Yankees (I forget his name).

            The Prof also told of his mother who was left to provide for the family because her husband either died or just left. This woman made a meagre living scrubbing the lobby area floors of office buildings in NYC in the middle of the night. Somehow she left a sizable fortune upon her death.

            The lecture concluded with Prof Dier informing the class “The secret to accumulation of wealth is to spend less than you earn.”

      • RocketDoc May 30, 2023 at 10:38 am #

        Growing up in Birmingham in the 50’s it seemed integration could work because segregation had built black community. But integration was on white terms and failed before it got started. We had riots and black power before Wallace got out of the schoolhouse door….

        • Jarek May 31, 2023 at 12:33 pm #

          Everything must be on White terms or we will have Africa. I’m not sure you get it: They want to integrate with us. That means taking everything we have.

          • Q. Shtik May 31, 2023 at 10:14 pm #

            They want to integrate with us. – Jarek

            ==========

            I disagree. I don’t think Blacks have ever wanted to integrate with Whites. That would be “caving in to the man.” Blacks want to keep their own culture and Black vernacular. They have managed to accomplish this to their own detriment.

          • Jarek June 1, 2023 at 12:39 pm #

            Integrate in the deepest way, such as wanting to integrate with a bowl of ice cream, a pretty girl, or a cat with a mouse.

            Nothing in left of that which was integrated in two of the above cases, they being assimilated into the ingegrater.

  16. MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 11:03 am #

    “Liberalism was never about freedom, but nurtured a profound desire to change humanity above all other aspects. This rendered it a willing ally of tyrants promising to do the dirty work of such a project.” — John Waters on Substack

    I neglected to say what a perfect quote this is.

    Marxism, communism, socialism – all look good on paper. The problems start trying to implement them. Then, they are deadly.

    • JohnAZ May 29, 2023 at 11:18 am #

      Liberalism is the enemy of freedom, Mary. Liberals want control of the situation so they can promote the changes they want.

      Perfect example. Socialism vs. capitalism, government control vs. the truly free market.

      Every power grab by the central authority is a loss of freedom and liberty by the folks. Liberalism forms their excuse.

      Nothing is more disgusted than to hear Biden talk about how he is promoting Democracy and freedom.

      • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 11:24 am #

        Look up liberalism, it is an antithesis to all you mention. Therefore, it’s been hijacked. Many people understand this.

        • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 1:51 pm #

          Liberalism is just Communism lite. As the phrase, “Move on” indicates, it’s a work in progress. The end goal is Communism.

          You always manage to get it wrong. And so does John Az in the opposite direction. Capitalism/Communism is one system. You two will meet in Berlin and dance together.

          • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 1:58 pm #

            Coming from you, that’s a compliment.

            You understand nothing, which is evident in the people you choose to worship.

          • Jarek May 31, 2023 at 12:34 pm #

            So you admit to being a liberal? Read the quote again, dummy.

    • Mick May 29, 2023 at 1:26 pm #

      The problem with Communism is that it doesn’t magically cure rotten human nature. It concentrates all the power at the top. Well, of course what do humans do when they see they have all that power? Exactly.

    • Greg May 29, 2023 at 2:45 pm #

      MQ, you might enjoy a recent essay in unherd.com concerning J.S.Mill, widely regarded as a 19th century champion of free speech. The essayist argued persuasively that Mill’s deeper objective was to allow liberalism a la Waters to obtain a foothold, and eventually to reach hegemony over the “free marketplace of ideas.”

      • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 3:28 pm #

        I don’t disagree with that. My point was that classic liberalism, as defined way back when (certainly before WWII) is not what the wokies of today are following or instituting. It’s straight up Marxism/communism.

        • Jarek May 31, 2023 at 12:35 pm #

          Quite so. It was all about free inquiry and free speech – which you are against.

    • K-Chien May 29, 2023 at 3:18 pm #

      I think you mean perfectly full of shit.

      • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 3:29 pm #

        You don’t appear to understand what anyone means. I’m guessing that’s why you resort to troll tactics, and have been booted off the blog a couple of times. I could be wrong.

        • K-Chien May 30, 2023 at 4:09 am #

          Yes. you could be wrong and are.

  17. JohnAZ May 29, 2023 at 11:05 am #

    “How that tiny fraction of the citizenry came to take charge of our affairs is surely the big mystery of the moment.”

    Not really. At the height of the USSR, the communist party was 2% of the population. Romans gave a very small percentage the benefit of Roman citizenship.

    The Jews have had control of big parts of the world by exercising small percentage control. Utah and areas of surrounding states are controlled by a small percentage of the Mormon church.

    Two items institute control for small groups.

    One, they give a damn. They are active pushing their agendas. They have faith in what they stand for. They are persistent. They take advantage of the “silent majority syndrome”, the desire of the large majority to not get involved, to practice denial, to not give a damn. They will believe every lie, every propaganda ploy that supports their ability to just not care. The core of America, the Anglo European ethnic group is guilty as hell of this as large groups of them buy off on the bullshit they are being handed by the Wokesters. Number one on that list is out current President and his mob.

    Two, these small groups stick together. They buy and sell from each other. They support their new and upcoming young people. They develop dogmas that make them separate from their surrounding populations and feed their collective egos. Again, they have faith in themselves and their dogma that it is the Good, the Godly, the Right kind, the purveyor of Truth.

    The USA right now is divided into many of these small percentage groups. Who will win and become number one?

    God knows? Maybe.

    • malthuss May 29, 2023 at 11:29 am #

      who will win? not White people.

    • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

      Well said. They value their children exceedingly, and guide them. In contrast, most Whites allow their children to grow up wild, like weeds. And they are amazed that they come to grief in one way or another.

      Imagine letting your child have an Iphone or a computer in their own room. Imagine sending your child to public school at his point. Yet they do!

      • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 2:34 pm #

        You’re stuff is back-door Woke.

        • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 2:46 pm #

          Protecting your children against groomers is woke?

          Boy are you confused.

          Fascists fight. Antifa fights. Same, right? They both fight after all.

          Thugs used knives to cut people. Surgeons use knives to cut people. Same, right? They both use knives to cut people.

          In such drolleries, the untrained mind is enmeshed. Seriously, they are.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 3:33 pm #

            No, that race & race-victimization lens/perspective. Again, ‘backdoor Woke’. Online ‘grooming’ of that sort of orientation if you wish.

  18. MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 11:05 am #

    “Liberalism was never about freedom, but nurtured a profound desire to change humanity above all other aspects. This rendered it a willing ally of tyrants promising to do the dirty work of such a project.” — John Waters on Substack

    What a perfect quote this is.

    Marxism, communism, socialism – all look good on paper. The problems start trying to implement them. Then, they are deadly.

    • JohnAZ May 29, 2023 at 11:19 am #

      Ha, ditto my last response to Mary.

    • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 11:25 am #

      I have no idea how this duplicated – ay yi yi.

      Oh well.

    • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 1:58 pm #

      Capitalism, Feminism, Scientology, Satanism…..

      • Mick May 29, 2023 at 2:59 pm #

        Learn all about it at ‘After School Satan Club’ kids!!

  19. MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 11:08 am #

    “Pathocracy” – my new favorite word. Thanks, Jim.

  20. oldandtired May 29, 2023 at 11:11 am #

    A psychiatrist friend of mine works at a state hospital that houses the criminally insane. He told me that when psychopaths are locked up and unable to hurt other people anymore, they start to hurt themselves.

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    • JohnAZ May 29, 2023 at 11:20 am #

      Power people hang up with each other to achieve power domination.

      They then fight with each other to see who will be number one.

      • Q. Shtik May 29, 2023 at 7:05 pm #

        Power people hang up with each other – JAZ

        ============

        I assume up should be out?

    • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 11:25 am #

      Well, they gotta hurt somethin’.

    • Tate May 29, 2023 at 12:12 pm #

      Studies of psychopaths show that psychopaths actually get better at being psychopaths under therapy. IOW, they learn how to manipulate the psycho-babble & con the mental health professionals trying to help them. If they are in the more intelligent fraction, they never get incarcerated but still learn how to take advantage of the psycho-babble. It’s like the psycho-babble is in the air & in the water.

      • malthuss May 29, 2023 at 5:56 pm #

        son of sam

    • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 2:00 pm #

      The book, Ponerology, indicates that Psychopath recognize each other and have an ability to work together. Who knew?

      This is how they rise above us. This needs to be studied more.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 3:35 pm #

        Wow all those books and onliners… Do you ever get out, like you know, go outside? Interact with people?

        • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 5:37 pm #

          Says the guy always quoting anarchist writers.

          Have any original ideas?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 1:53 am #

            I asked you first:

            Do you ever get out, like you know, go outside? Interact with people?

            Or do you spend your weekdays and weekend days online and mainly at CFN?

            Most of my ideas are original. Often, a reason or two why I might quote someone– including you if you have anything worth quoting– is in support of my ideas and to not reinvent the wheel.

            You on the other hand seem to have different reasons that oftne have you appearing to speak in tongues and/or attempting to speak ‘over’ people.

            As I’ve said before, any shmuck can write a book.

          • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 1:07 pm #

            Same. I already had my ideas in seed form and found others who had thought about them and fleshed them out.

            All great minds will come to the same truths. I know how much you love your real nation – it simply isn’t ours.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 8:26 pm #

            “Thank goodness these white supremacists are a very small minority… Their resources in terms of economic, cultural and social are negligible… You can mock them with impunity. They gather in obscure places online and in person. Their conventions are ridiculous spectacles of odious costumes and pathetic fantasies…” ~ Ayaan Hirsi

          • Jarek May 31, 2023 at 12:37 pm #

            Yeah in the end Hirsi is for her own people, the odious Somalis, Europe and the White race be damned.

    • K-Chien May 30, 2023 at 4:10 am #

      A need to control, that makes sense.

  21. BackRowHeckler May 29, 2023 at 11:23 am #

    “He stopped short of dissing Mr. Putin’s mother.”

    A few weeks ago a Russian woman was convicted of vandalizing Putin’s parent’s grave in a cemetery in St. Petersburg. To make political points, the dead are fair game. In the US, Confederate cemeteries have been vandalized, and Confederate graves have been desecrated.

    Ponder that fact on Memorial Day, CFNers.

    • Beryl of Oyl May 29, 2023 at 12:33 pm #

      IMO they were desecrated when governments decided they should not be honored as war dead. No flags, no monuments.

    • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 2:04 pm #

      Bringing the South back into the Union was no small thing.

      This all started with crushing of the Klan by the All Seeing I decades ago. The Klan played a key part in quashing Black terror that had been unleashed against White Southerners. When Southern Whites asked for justice, the Occupation Government laughed them to scorn. So they took up the sword against their tormentors.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 2:32 pm #

        youtube.com/shorts/z4YFhgRh1HQ?feature=share

  22. malthuss May 29, 2023 at 11:27 am #

    HECKLER
    Give us more about the grid being dismantled, the infrastructure going going gone.

  23. malthuss May 29, 2023 at 11:37 am #

    Henry K is now 100 years old.

    what did he say about controlling food?

    • K-Chien May 30, 2023 at 4:12 am #

      I you knew what is waiting for Henry K on the other side you’d want to stay alive as long as you could too.

    • Q. Shtik May 31, 2023 at 10:43 pm #

      what did he say about controlling food? – malthuss

      =========

      I don’t know Malth, what did he say about controlling food? Why don’t YOU do the research and then tell US what you found?

  24. liber8tor May 29, 2023 at 11:44 am #

    The Psychopaths running the country remind me of the Colonel Flagg character on M*A*S*H. Neither cute nor funny, Col. Flagg epitomizes the current crop of world “leaders”.

  25. Roundball Shaman May 29, 2023 at 1:03 pm #

    “… we discern increasingly that those we put in charge of this shape-shifting thing called the public interest are running out of trips to lay on the people.”

    We the People have long been an abusive relationship with those who purport to rule over us. Just like any Abuser… They do the abusing and We are the Abused. This is not the social contract for any kind of useful and productive relationship between The People and its Leadership Class. Well, perhaps it is for that Leadership Class. Thus, the long and continued existence of our Relationship of Abuse here in The Indispensable Nation.

    “Something grotesque is revealing itself: a bankruptcy not just of money but of national purpose, meaning, and legitimacy. You realize this day, with a breaking heart, that your country has been stolen by psychopaths.”

    Many among We the People have long since before today come to that understanding and broken heart. Everyone seems to have their favorite day that the stark realization and breaking of the dream hit full force… 2020… 2001… 1963… 1913… 1865…etc. The record of wreckage is long and devastating. And the effects are deep, long-lasting, and permanent.

    “Now, the trouble with being ruled by psychopaths is that they don’t care about other people.”

    Nothing like living in World where the very worst among us get to rule over all the Planet. No wonder the aliens have been so shy about revealing themselves openly. They know this Planet is stark raving effing Cray-Cray.

    “Hence, our anxiety this Memorial Day as we reflect on America’s military exploits generally, and must perforce contemplate our less-than-glorious prospects ahead.”

    What Memorial Day means now and henceforth is a deep sadness and sense-of-loss in the realization that all the deaths and dying over all the decades has produced THIS?! – the kind of World we now inhabit. All this death and loss… for THIS? Another layer of deep Cray-Cray.

    “How that tiny fraction of the citizenry came to take charge of our affairs is surely the big mystery of the moment.”

    Not really. We’ve all heard the saying, ‘The Shi.. (STUFF!) always floats to the top!’ And the bigger and slinkier The Stuff is… the higher it floats within the toilet bowl of Civic Affairs.

    “Attend to your duties courageously, as those before us did, who we remember today.”

    We remember ALL our loved ancestors today, not just those who waive weapons around for The State. And we thank them for giving us the gift of Life today… while we apologize to them and bear the heavy shame of having effed things up so horribly in their absence.

    May they have the mercy to forgive us for having failed them.

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    • anmariwakaranai May 29, 2023 at 2:16 pm #

      For all the flack, shrapnel, gas and maiming
      Mud pits, jungle swamps, land mines maiming
      For the gods of war, not naming
      Let us please ask God while blaming

      Only our fear and our pride took us there
      Shamed by the ribbons that Jar here holds dear.

      Who among you can stand their ground?
      They/them, demon sound.

      Take the light that fell upon us yesterday
      Prepare your stocks for a better day
      Unless you are airfarion
      Load your shelves now
      June’s the clarion.

      And pray for your dead.

      • anmariwakaranai May 29, 2023 at 2:26 pm #

        And one blood red poppy bloomed on Pentecost

      • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 4:19 pm #

        Not bad. Who wrote this?

      • Roundball Shaman May 29, 2023 at 4:59 pm #

        Yes, anmariwakaranai.

        “Flack, shrapnel, gas and maiming… land mines” are some of the sacraments that serve and worship the darkest stench within the human psyche. They are instruments ejaculated from the rotted gut of the Most Cowardly in celebration of the vile and depraved corners within the human soul. They are used to profit, bankrupt, taunt, threaten, hurt, maim, destroy, violate and erase Life… while serving to offer the unwilling sacrifice of innocents to The Dark’s false deity of death.

        “Who among you can stand their ground?” Those who are aggrieved and sickened by The Dark and who courageously celebrate Life… seeking only to enrich, cherish, and offer eternal gratitude for The Living.

        It’s not true that Politics and Religion are the greatest of dividers that separate us among the human family. The greatest separation of all is between those who Love Life… and those who live only to hate and despise it.

  26. elysianfield May 29, 2023 at 1:48 pm #

    Well, ladies and germs;

    12 year old black child graduates from Fullerton College with five degrees. Article states that he participated in class room attendance, as well as home schooling.

    This is a perfect example of why racial profiling is wrong. Jarek will be shamed into admitting that race is no boundary to success. Perhaps there is hope for the future of America, after all.

    .https://thepostmillennial.com/california-12-year-old-graduates-from-fullerton-college-with-five-degrees?utm_campaign=64487

    • anmariwakaranai May 29, 2023 at 1:56 pm #

      Please add to that the newly dug up incorruptible black mother superior, who started this Catholic community of nuns down south USA.

      ….

    • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 2:01 pm #

      Jarek will opine that the child must be 80% white or somesuch.

    • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 2:10 pm #

      Look at the picture, idiots. It’s an East Asian boy (who looks like a girl), named Clovis Hung.

      Part Black? I suppose it’s possible. If so, he takes after the non-Black parent.

      Poor little ani! Poor Mary. Ely, I thought you were growing, bro. Becoming my disciple. What happened to wind on the lindens?

      • Mick May 29, 2023 at 2:28 pm #

        Yeah, definitely Asian. Elysianfield do you need new glasses? Or are you just so hell bent on proving your “truth” that you’ll see what you want to see.

        And Mary? Come on. We’re on the same team as Jarek knows. Ha! But you gotta go the linked stories before you comment.

        • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 2:40 pm #

          Goal, Jarek.

          GOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAL!

          • Mick May 29, 2023 at 2:42 pm #

            Lol..

        • elysianfield May 29, 2023 at 5:38 pm #

          Mick,
          The blacks need their heroes….cut him a little slack. If people of Spanish descent can be considered white, than Clovis can be considered black.

          The culture needs all the help it can get.

          • Mick May 29, 2023 at 6:25 pm #

            OMG, you are a genuine idiot. No way you have an IQ north of 70.

            Oh, and cut WHO some slack. The only one who needs slack cut towards is you. A last name of ‘Hung’ is not black, you fool.

            So, you posted this story without even looking at the picture.

            Your mama must be ashamed of rearing such a fool. Pathetic.

          • elysianfield May 29, 2023 at 7:48 pm #

            Mick.
            You have me figured out. In my defense, however, I have met and heard of many, many black men that could be described as “hung”…many will answer to that appellation.

            I have it on good authority that few Irish answer when thus called, however.

            Those many years in Oakland now make sense…I thought the population was Chinese….go figure.

        • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 7:18 pm #

          I was right – Jarek said if he’s got black in him then it must be just a smidge.

          LOL.

          • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 7:27 pm #

            Yeah, Blacks have much lower IQ’s than East Asians. Just another thing you’re confused about.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 11:43 pm #

            As if IQ tests mean as much as the Jareks and and their sockpuppets/sockpuppets-in-spirit, etc., of the world seem to think they do.

            Then again maybe some people’s ‘book smarts’, so to speak, make some forms of understanding a challenge.

            —-

            “Life smarts” is very different from book knowledge

            “The Flynn effect is the label for the fact that scores on IQ tests have been going up in the last 100 years or so. But as Flynn (2007) himself points out, the only thing changing is the ability to think hypothetically. Thus we have conflated abstract thinking with intelligence. But those with high IQ are not necessarily ‘life smart.’ In fact they are often ‘life dumb’, showing an inability to be empathic, socially skilled or wise.” ~ Psychology Today

          • WilliamShatnersPants May 30, 2023 at 8:45 pm #

            “…if he’s got black in him it must be just a smidge.”

            Surely, a smudge.

      • elysianfield May 29, 2023 at 5:33 pm #

        Jarek,

        Yes…the wind in the Lindens…

        The world belongs to…He….

      • elysianfield May 30, 2023 at 12:58 pm #

        Jarek,
        Again, regarding the “wind in the lIndens”

        If you remove the obvious trappings of Uniform and insignia in the clip, you have a perfect metaphor for the cultural, national and racial
        aspirations of the majority of our population. It should bring tears to your eyes.

        • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 1:54 pm #

          Yes, look at the hope kindled in their eyes, first wistful and then fiery. The young man enkindles them.

          One may admire a tree, but one then cuts off a branch (apologizing to the tree) to use as a club or a spear.

    • Islander May 29, 2023 at 2:38 pm #

      Not a black child.

      Looks like he has five associate’s degrees.
      Fullerton is a public community college.

      It makes sense that a guy who is too smart for US high school would access the local community college.

      Many students in CCs are adult learners.
      That might have been a plus for Hung.

      • Mick May 29, 2023 at 3:17 pm #

        I think your analysis is well Hung.

        • Paula D May 29, 2023 at 3:37 pm #

          I was just going to say that it’s a good thing his mother removed him from public school before the children were old enough to start making Hung jokes.

          I guess you proved my point.

    • Q. Shtik May 29, 2023 at 7:17 pm #

      What was his name? Sheldoniqua Cooper Johnson?

  27. elysianfield May 29, 2023 at 1:53 pm #

    Uhh, after rereading the article, not so much of an example….and with a name like “Clovis Hung”, anybody could have become confused….

    • Paula D May 29, 2023 at 3:40 pm #

      And a mother named Song Choi.

      Totally black.

      • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 7:19 pm #

        LOL!

      • Mick May 31, 2023 at 2:56 pm #

        Ahhh….they must be in the Wu Tang clan!

    • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 5:03 pm #

      Well you started off with ‘germs’, which made me suspect, right off the bat, that something was just not quite right.

    • elysianfield May 30, 2023 at 12:38 pm #

      This is the ballad of Clovis Hung;
      A college grad, at 12 years young,
      From the loins of Song Choi he sprung,
      Twerkin, Rappin, and double hung.

      Some questioned his racial lineage,
      Due to his obvious Viisage
      Straight hair, light skin,
      Epicanthal folds and a friendly grin,

      “He’s a poser…not really black!”
      “Knows his father, no 9 does he pack,”
      “Ain’t been arrested, not even once!”
      “If you think him black, you must be a dunce!”

      So save your bile and imprecations,
      Contemplate the state of racial relations,
      The blacks need a hero, you cannot deny,
      So why not C Hung? Why would I lie?

      Yeah….

      ,

      • Paula D May 30, 2023 at 9:23 pm #

        lol, pure poetry.

  28. anmariwakaranai May 29, 2023 at 1:58 pm #

    https: //www.americamagazine.org/faith/2023/05/26/benedictine-nun-black-catholic-incorrupt-245370

    • Jarek May 29, 2023 at 2:12 pm #

      Yes, ani. All Blacks are saints. You didn’t know that? That’s why they’re rioting and pushing people in front of trains – because people won’t acknowledge their sanctity.

      Are you ready to take responsibility for the mayhem? It’s your fault after all. If you had been nicer to them it wouldn’t have happened.

      • anmariwakaranai May 29, 2023 at 2:19 pm #

        Hey jar, what if God wanted a black incorruptible musician whose praise community touched Him and set an example for all black folk?

        • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 3:00 pm #

          Jarek and ‘sockpuppets’ appear to be viewing and talking about people through the lens of race and as per Critical Race Theory.

          Tip of the hat to MaryQueen for inspiring me to finally look into it more.

          —-

          Watch Black Father Blast Critical Race Theory At Board Meeting In Viral Video

          youtu.be/m66rcHzWaPU

        • Anthea May 29, 2023 at 11:04 pm #

          @ anmariwakaranai:

          Founding a religious order certainly gives one a leg up, when it comes to sanctity.

          Here’s a little more about her: httpX://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/254413/who-was-sister-wilhelmina-lancaster-the-african-american-whose-body-is-potentially-incorrupt

          • Anthea May 29, 2023 at 11:09 pm #

            You can listen to the nun’s singing here:

            httpX://music.apple.com/us/artist/benedictines-of-mary-queen-of-apostles/575743999

        • Anthea May 31, 2023 at 10:51 am #

          @ anmariwakaranai:

          “what if God wanted a black incorruptible musician whose praise community touched Him and set an example for all black folk?”

          It could be that this is a reminder to us of any number of things, one of them being that blacks are, after all, “the beloved chidren of God”–as Mother Teresa said about gays. It could also be a reminder that a black woman could merit a higher place in heaven than most of the rest of us. And it could serve as a reminder to blacks that they should maybe re-focus their aspirations–away from the (rather sordid) trappings that “society” tells us are proof of our worth–like flat-screen TVs and fancy clothes–and instead aspire towards real worth as a human being.

          Most of us have a very tough time parsing this last thing. (Some more than others.) The whole question about wanting stuff, needing stuff, and what we plan to do with stuff, in relation to our personal/spiritual worth is…a really hard question.

          E.g., before I sold my soapmaking business, I had at least a hundred bottles of fragrance oils and essential oils, most of them in the 16-ounce size. For me–even though this stuff gave me a great deal of pleasure, as I’ve always been a perfume buff–it was primarily a utility, something you use to make something (value added) that, in the course of time and through the usual channels of the marketplace, will find its way to other people.

          Money is the same way. It’s reallly a utility. You only store it up if you anticipate the need to capitalize something. The rest of it, the rest of the time, flows back and forth between you and the substation.

  29. Uncle Bob May 29, 2023 at 1:58 pm #

    So the Russkies now want to go after Lindsay Graham. I wonder why?

    https: //nypost.com/2023/05/29/russia-issues-arrest-warrant-for-sen-lindsey-graham?utm_source=drive&utm_campaign=android_nyp

    • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 2:03 pm #

      Lindsay is like a caricature. He reminds me of every sleazy, oozing slimebag in every movie that has a toadie helping out the evil side.

      • Mick May 29, 2023 at 2:51 pm #

        Here’s what Blazin’ Driezin wrote yesterday regarding Lollipop Lindsay…..

        “Graham is merely executing HIS PERMANENT TASK of holding up the military-industrial end of the national Republican fundraising effort.

        If things get critical as they did when Republicans won the U.S. House and launched some crazy talk about “no blank checks“ for the Ukraine McConnell gets involved.

        As he did at that time.

        Even to the extent of attending the Munich Security Conference and issuing a brutal statement along the lines of (not verbatim, but close enough)…..

        “We don’t care what our base thinks, we do what we want.” ”

        I guess I’d better share the link for proper attribution….

        thedreizinreport.com/2023/05/27/the-all-american-issue/

        • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 3:51 pm #

          I always wondered how people like that who have openly sold their souls actually feel about themselves. I’m guessing there’s a lot of inner hate there.

        • Edge Lord May 29, 2023 at 5:59 pm #

          If Graham had the courage to step out of the closet he’d perhaps be less prone to blackmail or taking on this macho “kill ‘em all” role with the defense industry.
          It’s his beard.

          • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 7:22 pm #

            He might just be a pedo, in which case he is probably THE most controllable puppet in the senate.

        • SpeedyBB May 31, 2023 at 8:58 am #

          Well Mick, by coincidence I happened to come across the following excerpt from Your Friendly CIA Analyst, from Nineteen Four-gotten. It sounds achingly familiar:

          “But historically, the long-standing relationship was described by Central Intelligence Agency’s (CIA) records as follows:

          ‘Most importantly, American intelligence was woefully ignorant of the different Ukrainian groups and their aims…. A second problem was the war record of some anti-Communist Ukrainians.

          ‘The struggle between the Wehrmacht and Red Army awakened and inflamed ancient rivalries and hatreds in Ukraine, many Ukrainians despised Poles and Jews as well as Soviet Communists.

          ‘Ukrainians served in the German army and had been linked to Nazi atrocities on the Eastern Front. (S) . Motivation and reliability were final SSU concerns.

          ‘Quinn considered the Ukrainians adroit political intriguers and past masters in the art of propaganda who would not hesitate to use the United States for their own ends. Moreover, emigre groups in general—and Soviet ethnic minority groups in particular—were obvious targets of Soviet penetration and manipulation.’ (Ruffner, 1998, p. 21/22)”

          So it is not like TPTB were unaware of what they were waltzing into.

          • Mick May 31, 2023 at 2:57 pm #

            Yep

  30. jim May 29, 2023 at 2:15 pm #

    “Brace for impact. We’re already off the road and now its only a matter of how the vehicle comes to a stop in the ditch… What we are riding in is no more…we are out there stumbling in the dark, in shock.”

    This seems like a profoundly accurate observation.

    What bothers me is our collective passivity up to this point of “stumbling in the dark, in shock.”

    Does system collapse itself then became the potion
    of action to rebuild (i.e. either die now or do something?)

    Does our present State security apparatus completely go down when we are in the ditch allowing us to somehow regroup? Or, has the pathocracy, believing they will survive World War III, checkmated that possibility since grass roots resistors have already been labeled as terrorists?

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    • Amman May 29, 2023 at 5:26 pm #

      Maybe it’s like the Prince song “Let’s go crazy.”

      >>In this life, you on your own!

  31. The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 2:35 pm #

    youtube.com/shorts/z4YFhgRh1HQ?feature=share

  32. tucsonspur May 29, 2023 at 4:19 pm #

    For the feeble minded and the thimble brains, the following is not a discussion of the pros and cons of our involvement in Ukraine.

    J said that he admires Putin. I can understand why to a certain extent. The white strength of masculine nationalism, etc. But he places no boundaries on that admiration, and in Putin’s case I think that you must. I have some admiration for him also, but it is circumscribed by a circle of morality.

    I would think that J would also agree to certain limits on Putin’s behavior and use common sense if or when he does go too far and becomes too vicious and too intolerant. Or does anything go and nothing matter except the ‘greatness’ of Russia? The use of nukes comes to mind as does the word genocide.

    It’s easy to admire him from afar, but how would it be living under his rule if you were an outspoken critic of him at times living in Moscow? Do you surrender certain freedoms like freedom of speech, or freedom of assembly or whatever to maintain a homogeneous and disciplined, but probably somewhat intimidated and fearful nation? Right, don’t make waves, don’t rock the boat and you’ll be okay.

    Putin has had political opposition, outspoken dissidents, and journalists killed. Google ‘political opposition killed by Putin’ like I just did. Further search will list more names of those who were killed by him. How does this reconcile with one’s Christianity? Are Christianity and politics moved into separate worlds here, each in their own independent orbs?

    I guess that it’s the weakness and corruption of our government and its leaders, and the decay of our nation that breeds admiration for such men. Such admiration must have limiting boundaries so that we can avoid a hellish descent into depravity. To paraphrase Shakespeare, my admiration for Putin is bounded in a nutshell, and I certainly do not count him a king of infinite space.

  33. tucsonspur May 29, 2023 at 4:41 pm #

    Today I’m listening to the chants, flutes, and drums of the Native Americans, paying homage to their ancestors and communicating with the Great Spirit, being one with Mother Earth.

    Later, I’ll see if I can’t catch Montgomery Cliff playing taps in ‘From Here to Eternity’.

    • Amman May 29, 2023 at 5:22 pm #

      IMO Time well spent.

      • tucsonspur May 29, 2023 at 7:20 pm #

        Absolutely, the serenity of an elemental connection.

        Excuse please, should be Clift above.

    • Q. Shtik May 29, 2023 at 9:06 pm #

      Montgomery Cliff – tucson

      ========

      Groan, it’s Clift

      But we knew who you meant.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 11:23 pm #

        Q. Shtick is spelled with a c. You have misspelled your own nickname and keep doing so. For shame.

        ‘u^

        • Q. Shtik May 30, 2023 at 2:05 am #

          You have misspelled your own nickname – Zaz

          ========

          You are a recent arrival at CFN. I have been here since 2008. I was asked what the logic was for my screen name and I explained that I once had a vanity plate on my car that read Q SHTIK. In NJ a license plate has only 7 spaces available. That’s how many spaces I used including the space after Q. I adopted my vanity plate as my screen name and thus it is not a misspelling.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 9:47 am #

            You expect me to buy that story? For one, look at how much longer my nickname is than yours. I mean, come on.

          • MaryQueen May 30, 2023 at 4:22 pm #

            Zaz, in Q’s mind, he is able to break and bend rules, whereas no one else is allowed that luxury.

            IOW, he’s kind of an asshole.

          • Anthea May 31, 2023 at 11:52 am #

            I’m a fan of correct English usage, myself, and I do think that rigorous training along those lines should be part of everyone’s education. It should be absolutely hammered into people, starting in high school and continuing through college and post-graduate studies.

            Most people require a lot of help from the faculty, when it comes time to write their thesis and dissertation. Back in the stone age, when I used to do copy-editing for Academic Press, the authors of these scholarly works were sometimes not very good at English usage. There was one guy (named Klausmeyer) who was so bad that you couldn’t tell what he was trying to say half the time. I complained to my editor about it, and he replied, “Klausmeyer can’t write to save his life.” (The guy is probably long dead, so I feel free to speak ill of him.)

            I think this stuff is important because I prefer to know what the hell people are trying to say. Proper usage is all about PRECISION. The quirky little details of punctuation and such allow for precision. Correct word-order lets you know what the modifier is modifying (so you don’t have to guess). It’s nice too if a pronoun agrees with its antecedent. so you know who the hell they’re talking about. Fine distinctions mean you can achieve a really high degree of PRECISION.

            However, I think Q needs to come to terms with the fact that teaching this stuff is a Herculean task. This is not the place–assuming anyone here were really interested.

            There are two ways to get proficient in English usage. One is total immersion in really fine literature: Read good stuff, and you’ll get an instinctive feel for what good writing is. The other way is to have a job as a proofreader or copy-editor for awhile.

          • SpeedyBB June 1, 2023 at 12:53 am #

            Anthea, think of an individual who is ostentaciously proud of his or her poor bodily hygiene. He or she walks around trailing a pong of body odor; when they open their mouths to speak all the listeners recoil because what comes out is foul and pervasive.

            There are people like this, mostly homeless, hermits, maybe bikers of soldiers-of-fortune.

            Just as cleanliness is to them a matter of “whatever”, a great number of native speakers of the English language seem to have that attitude when it comes to English composition.

            Managers who hire fresh MBAs tear their hair out when discovering that these smooth, clever, ambitious guys & dolls cannot compose a simple business report, write an effective email or even communicate properly with customers in writing.

            The fault is in part with university education, which does not sufficiently stress WRITING AS WRITING, a critical life skill to master. The tiny screen inspires carelessness.

            It’s funny, and pitiful, to see fifty-year-olds, booted from cushy engineering or managerial positions, sitting and sweating in their kitchens at home as they attempt to compose a cover letter for a job application – something beneath them in the days when they had a secretary-serf to do such menial work.

            As AI picks up steam it will get dramatically worse. Or maybe better, if smart, illiterate executives (think Chrome-Dome in Dilbert) are able to offload all the writing onto the software.

    • Anthea May 31, 2023 at 11:34 am #

      @ tucsonspur:

      I still have some Native American music around here somewhere, but it’s on CD, so I haven’t listened to it in years. Maybe I should get a CD player to plug into the laptop–except the laptop has crappy speakers. I’d have to put the music on my phone so I could listen in the car, which has kick-ass speakers. Or maybe I could get decent speakers for the house…. (They’d probably cost a lot more than I want to spend.)

  34. Amman May 29, 2023 at 5:24 pm #

    Yup, a typo. That’s two in 15 years. Grrrr. ; )

  35. Edge Lord May 29, 2023 at 5:41 pm #

    Lindsey’s nickname among male escorts and prostitutes is Lady G.

    You have to wonder what the deep state has on Lindsey and his boys.

    Must be lurid by the way he bootlicks the MIC

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    • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 7:24 pm #

      You know it can’t just be gay sex. No one cares about that any more.

      • Pucker May 29, 2023 at 8:48 pm #

        So, you’re saying that Lindsey Graham’s vitriolic hatred of Putin and the Russians is a manifestation of Lindsey’s repressed homosexuality?

        • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 9:59 pm #

          No.

        • Edge Lord May 29, 2023 at 10:25 pm #

          Yes.

          He needs to act tough to his constituents because the Bible beltonians suspect he’s a pillow biter.

          That and someone has evidence of all the sordid details of his sex life. Probably on video

    • Paula D May 30, 2023 at 11:06 am #

      He’s just flat out evil. All the religious people up here on CFN talk about pure evil, but they don’t recognize it when it salivates and leers at the thought of mass death?

      That there is evil. They don’t need to blackmail him into anything, that is how he is already. That is probably why they picked him in the first place.

  36. Pucker May 29, 2023 at 7:27 pm #

    They have these propaganda departments called “Nudge Units”.

    Totalitarianism exploits the individual’s internal mental process in which the individual, believing that the System is too powerful to resist anyway, negotiates away his Freedom in exchange for some emotional benefit, particularly to satisfy some unmet inner emotional need of the Slave, such as gratifying an inner need to release Anger, Hate, Frustration at a sense on personal failure, etc. For example, Eichmann agrees to perpetuate the Holocaust in exchange for a name plate in his office door in the bureaucracy. Very nasty, ugly system. But, a potentially very appealing system to most people….

    “ It is the impact of that first little concession that starts the inner avalanche of self-justification that finally leads to self-betrayal. Following the first compromise and self-justification comes the second; and this one is met with shrewder self-exculpations.

    After all, the compromiser has had experience in rationalization by now. The repeated concessions turn into submission and voluntary cooperation. As I said before, once a man is seduced into a small ideological concession, it is very difficult for him to stop. From now on his imagination produces enough justifications which help him maintain his self-respect.

    The inwardly insecure traitor always feels the urge to identify with the enemy-the hostile invader. He has never “belonged,” never had a feeling of identification with his own group, has never felt the rewards of such cohesion, nor has he won the love, sympathy, and respect of his fellows. Therefore he wants to join the “others.” He may even go so far as to call his former friends traitors.

    Lord Haw-Haw (William Joyce), the British traitor who was executed by his government, considered himself a real “Aryan German,” and in this way justified his fight against England. In the hectic days immediately following the Nazi invasion of Holland, I myself felt an occasional inner temptation to go over to the enemy, to the stronger party, with its powerful organizations, all ready to support one, to back one up. I even had a dream about visiting Hitler and convincing him in a childish and friendly way of the righteousness of our cause.

    I did not succumb to this dream temptation, but there were a few who fell for such infantile pictures and were unable to withstand their need to submit. The need to conform, to be accepted, to be safe and respectable, is deeply embedded in man.”

    “The Rape of the Mind”

  37. BULLITT May 29, 2023 at 7:29 pm #

    So today we have honored our Veterans who gave so much for this Country.
    We also took Lindsey Graham apart for a very inappropriate statement. We have held PUTIN to a higher level of respect than out own failing administration…well done CF’ers

    Now as I look at the calendar, I see the next upcoming holiday is JUNETEENTH!
    As a Vet, I put out my flags and some other red, white, and blue Items. I wore my flag shirt to the WALMART.
    So how do I prepare for JUNETEENTH? I guess there’s an official flag for the holiday. I couldn’t find any at WALMART.
    Please advise me since I don’t want to be politically incorrect.
    I’m sure that you can give me proper guidance especially from those who are into writing three paragraphs about the subject.

    • Islander May 29, 2023 at 7:56 pm #

      Interesting point.

      Do the blacks have a flag?

      If not, why not????

      • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 8:15 pm #

        They have their own anthem.

      • Night Owl May 30, 2023 at 4:42 am #

        Yes, and they chose Henry Rollins to carry it, you Pootin-loving Nazi!

      • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 7:35 pm #

        What about the Feminists?

    • tom clark May 29, 2023 at 9:17 pm #

      You forgot Flag Day, June 14th.

    • benr May 31, 2023 at 10:29 am #

      How about a large lettered BLM with a big circle around it with a slash from top left to bottom right?
      This can be a flag or a shirt.

      • benr May 31, 2023 at 10:30 am #

        I see there is a no lives matter shirt which is close.
        If someone takes up this idea please cut me in on the proceeds.

  38. Pucker May 29, 2023 at 7:37 pm #

    Whatever happened to the Gender Studies Masters Degree program at the University of Kabul?

    • Pucker May 29, 2023 at 8:04 pm #

      Did the Nudge Units ever get the Pashtun to negotiate away their genders?

  39. tucsonspur May 29, 2023 at 7:45 pm #

    Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko said that if any other country wanted to join a Russia-Belarus union there could be “nuclear weapons for everyone”.

    Russia moved ahead last week with a plan to deploy tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus, in the Kremlin’s first deployment of such warheads outside Russia since the 1991 fall of the Soviet Union, spurring concerns in the West.

    In an interview on Russia’s state television late on Sunday, Lukashenko, President Vladimir Putin’s staunchest ally among Russia’s neighbours, said that it must be “strategically understood” that Minsk and Moscow have a unique chance to unite.

    “No one is against Kazakhstan and other countries having the same close relations that we have with the Russian Federation,” Lukashenko said. “If someone is worried … (then) it is very simple: join in the Union State of Belarus and Russia. That’s all: there will be nuclear weapons for everyone.”

    He added that it was his own view – not the view of Russia.

    They probably won’t coincide, the fireworks of the 4th and the fireworks of tactical nukes, but you never know. Has the Hiroshima-Nagasaki record stood for too long, ready to be updated by a new bomb dropper? Looks like it might be so.

  40. tucsonspur May 29, 2023 at 8:17 pm #

    3 reasons why even China doesn’t want the yuan to replace the dollar as the world’s reserve currency:

    Really? So, is the yuan on the wane? You decide. Lengthy, but worth the read. A tranquilizer for the dollar distraught. Still, hold those hard assets.

    The Chinese yuan is one of the top contenders challenging the USD’s dominance as a reserve currency.

    However, Beijing may not be fully supportive of making the yuan the reserve currency of choice.

    Key challenges include Beijing’s unwillingness to open its capital accounts or to run a deficit.

    A debate over de-dollarization has raged on for the past year, fanned by fears that Washington is weaponizing the US dollar-denominated global financial system against Russia over the Ukraine war.

    Even high-profile investors have weighed in. In April, billionaire investor Ray Dalio cautioned that the sanctions that squeezed Russia’s dollar currency reserves “increased the perceived risk that those debt assets can be frozen in the way that they’ve been frozen for Russia.”

    Consequently, various countries started lining up non-dollar currencies and alternative assets to use in trade and to stash in their reserves.

    Enter, the Chinese yuan.

    The Chinese currency is having its moment in the sun as a potential challenger to the US dollar-dominated global payments system. As it looks to broaden the use of its currency internationally, China has forged deals with countries including Russia. And while the currency isn’t the only greenback challenger, it is the most high-profile contender, against the backdrop of US-China tensions and Beijing’s alliance with Russia amid the war.

    However, it would be difficult for any asset or currency to unseat the US dollar. As it is, even the use of the euro is a far second to the greenback.

    And more importantly, Beijing wouldn’t even want the yuan to be the major reserve currency for the world, an expert on China’s economy told Insider.

    Here are three reasons why even China isn’t that keen on de-dollarizing the world economy.

    1. China doesn’t want to liberalize its currency and allow money to move freely in and out of its economy
    Even though China appears keen to upset the global dominance of the US, it only wants to do so on Beijing’s terms, says Rory Green, the chief China economist at London-based consultancy TS Lombard.

    TS No, just a coincidence.

    The People’s Bank of China has moved cautiously over the past decade to promote greater use of yuan without disrupting financial security and it’s unlikely to upset that dynamic now, Green wrote in a note on April 28.

    This stability is maintained through the use of capital controls — a grip on how much foreign money can move in and out of China’s economy, which in turn influences the foreign currency exchange rate.

    Beijing’s policy has typically leaned toward having such controls, as it considers them prerequisites for an independent, sovereign monetary policy, wrote Green.

    Because of these controls, “Beijing can never fully liberalize its current account, but it can still pursue RMB internationalization,” Green added, referring to the yuan by its official name, the renminbi.

    Rather than pushing for the yuan to become the dominant global reserve currency, Beijing is likely to pursue its sphere of currency influence among countries it trades with actively. It’s likely to focus on breaking up US dollar dominance in parts of the world instead, Green told Insider.

    But there could be some wiggle room on Beijing’s position.

    “There’s always been the option in China to change capital controls. Except, for Beijing, the question has been whether the global environment would support this — are there enough nations who will adopt yuan?” Abishur Prakash, the CEO of The Geopolitical Business, a Toronto-based advisory firm, told Insider.

    “Today, the answer is yes, as many nations have already signed on to using yuan, giving China the signal it needs to change gears,” he added.

    2. China doesn’t want to and cannot afford to run a persistent deficit like the US does
    The US dollar’s position and clout as a reserve currency comes at a cost — a current account deficit for America.

    That’s because there’s more global demand for US dollars than American demand for imports, which are also being paid for in the greenback.

    So, the US will need to contend with ever larger amounts of deficit in order to maintain its reserve currency position. This paradox was first put forth to Congress by Yale economist Robert Triffin in 1960.

    TS Yes, remember Triffin’s Dilemma?

    The drawback to running a current account deficit is that it leaves a country vulnerable to unexpected shifts in global capital flows, per Bloomberg.

    As Reuters’ John Kemp explained in 2009, the US has been running larger budget and current account deficits than most other countries simply because it’s the issuer of the world’s principal reserve currency.

    “As the global economy expanded, demand for reserve assets increased. These could only be supplied to foreigners by America running a current account deficit and issuing dollar-denominated obligations to fund it,” wrote Kemp.

    While China is the world’s second-largest economy right now, it just cannot afford to run a persistent deficit like the US, said Green.

    “China is politically unwilling and economically unable — barring significant structural reform — to run a sustained current account deficit and to provide sufficient supplies of RMB assets globally,” wrote Green.

    3. Beijing faces many geopolitical risks, so China needs alternative assets
    One key challenge for any currency taking on the US dollar as the world’s dominant reserve currency is the greenback’s dominance.

    Right now, even the euro’s role is larger than the yuan.

    In April, 43% of all global payments made via SWIFT were made in the US dollar, while 32% were made in the euro. Just 2.3% of the SWIFT transactions were made in the yuan.

    Meanwhile, the US dollar accounted for the lion’s share, or 54%, of global foreign exchange reserves in the fourth quarter of 2022, according to data from the International Monetary Fund.

    The euro accounted for 20% of the reserves, while the yuan made up just 2.5% of this stash.

    This means there’s a lack of wide-ranging choices when it comes to reserve assets — which is a problem for the Chinese central bank, wrote TS Lombard’s Green.

    That’s because the institution would have to hold its yuan-denominated bonds in massive amounts — similar to the US Fed, which now holds a huge amount of its assets in Treasury securities.

    Given these issues, it’s unlikely for the yuan to overtake the greenback, said Green.

    These stumbling blocks come on top of other challenges outside China’s control, including inertia in the global financial system, Stanford historian Niall Ferguson told CNBC on May 1.

    “Geopolitics and China’s economic heft is driving – and will continue to drive – RMB adoption for trade and reserve holdings. Greater international use of the RMB will provide channels for sanctions-busting, but the dollar is not under threat,” wrote Green.

    Read the original article on Business Insider.

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    • Night Owl May 30, 2023 at 4:41 am #

      “Read the original article on Business Insider.”

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

      • MaryQueen May 30, 2023 at 4:18 pm #

        After posting the whole article (or close to it, from what I can tell) and providing no link.

    • benr May 31, 2023 at 10:25 am #

      They will settle on SDR special draw rights or digital currency.
      Phone transactions and social credit scores for the win and th eloss of freedom.

  41. tom clark May 29, 2023 at 9:11 pm #

    Most folks who have sold their souls to the devil don’t realize it until it’s too late.

    • benr May 31, 2023 at 10:25 am #

      When did you realize you had sold yours Tom?

  42. Islander May 29, 2023 at 9:40 pm #

    In the previous thread, Jarek stated that there is no difference between female children and women, because the former grow up to become the latter.

    Quite alarming.

    • MaryQueen May 29, 2023 at 10:04 pm #

      From someone who felt perfectly comfortable posting a line stating all women should be raped and killed, that is not very surprising.

    • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 1:10 pm #

      Ignorant slander from a hater whom I easily best on a regular basis.

      The potential tree is in the seed. That’s all I said.

      • Islander May 30, 2023 at 8:37 pm #

        “That’s all I said.”

        You didn’t say that.

        And if you had said that, it would still be a (disturbing) non sequitur.

        The topic was the *difference* between children and both teenagers and adults.

        And, congratulations for your self-proclaimed ability to mentally masturbate.

        • Islander May 30, 2023 at 8:39 pm #

          P.S.
          You are a creep.

        • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 9:10 pm #

          All I said is the female children grow up to be woman. Do you automatically assume children are all the same? That girls may not have their own trajectories, ones different from boys? Men and women are different so it stands to reason that boys and girls are too. You made no mention of this, so I did.

          I could get deeper into the subject of course. There’s more to say, but it’s a subject for mature adults, not female hysterics like you.

  43. KesaAnna May 29, 2023 at 10:01 pm #

    ” America is a White, Western nation or was supposed to be so. ”

    Hmm , given my racial background , probably a non – starter .

    So perhaps time for a different angle ?

    America was also a Protestant nation, founded by Protestants , for Protestants.

    ” Freedom of religion ” , Lol , if you say so.

    I’m not surprised that the idea of every man his own Pope , his own Magisterium ,

    in time became Shakers , Mennonites , the Manson Family , and Drag Queen story time.

    What can you say in refutation when they bitch because they got what they wanted ?

    Anyway ,

    Previously the Catholic Church was a barely tolerated deviant subculture.

    — Sometimes actively hated.

    I note that in prior cases of out – in – the – open hatred the charge was NOT diddling kids , but some other excuse .

    This excuse , that excuse , some other excuse ,

    why then should I assume this is anything other than another EXCUSE ?

    But then John F . Kennedy got elected President , though I somehow really doubt that had much , or anything , to do with his Catholicism.

    Rather , DESPITE his Catholicism.

    Outside of Catholic circles , I have NEVER heard Kennedy praised on the basis of his Catholicism.

    But Kennedy got elected and ever since the thinking seems to be ,

    ” Yay ! Now we are mainstream ! ”

    My every frustration with the Catholic Church seems traceable to that perception.

    No , you are STILL a barely tolerated deviant subculture.

    And your every , ” Me too ” gesture has left you worse off , not better off , than before.

    But what do I know ?

    We always have , at least so far , avoided a Branch Davidian Waco.

    And that’s something I guess.

    And it could be that the Cardinals and Bishops actually secretly agree with me ?

    Maybe that is why they are in favor of open borders ?

    A majority of these immigrants are not Catholic , but a much larger percentage of them are compared to previously.

    So with open borders we may become mainstream ,

    though it will not be a United States any Baby Boomer would recognize ?

    • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 1:13 pm #

      You’ve said you’re the enemy of the United States, so I’m right on target. Or are you taking that back now? You’ve said much the same many times.

      More to the point: You have to choose between Germany and Russia. You’ve been praising Russian tanks quite a bit now. Once and for all – the Battle of Stalingrad with “your boys”. Are they German or Russian?

      Choose!

    • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 1:24 pm #

      The Church is Universal and doesn’t care about the color of bodies sitting in the pews. That bodes ill indeed for the West. The evil was always there waiting for the right time to germinate and sprout.

      The Church Fathers under the guidance of the Holy Spirit allowed for violence or just war. That’s all the German conquerors need. They remade outer Christianity in their own image. But the inner nature of Christianity remained, waiting for the right time to put forth its poisoned fruit.

      What did Christ want? Who knows? No one bothered to say what he though about War and Nations. And that is bizarre. We know what Mohammad thought about everything.

      Maybe he just wanted his followers to be an other worldly cult like the Quakers or Amish. Because to rule nations, a religion must be in favor of those nations. Hinduism is for Hindus in a way Christianity will never be for Christians. Hinduism has a strong universal aspect, but it does not abandon the lower aspect or the particular in favor of the universal. And of course Judaism is even more this way.

      Alas for the West! Its ambiguity makes non-Westerners like you think they can dictate to us in our own nations – now former nations.

      • Q. Shtik June 1, 2023 at 12:28 pm #

        No one bothered to say what he though about War and Nations. – Jarek

        ==========

        Will there ever be a time in some future comment from your keyboard that you will not drop the final letter t in the word thought?

        But that’s OK, we knew what you meant.

    • benr May 31, 2023 at 10:22 am #

      No we have once again become the tower of babble.
      A trip to Costco sees more people speaking spanish, mandrin and vietnamese than english.
      Not a good look and even harder on the ears.
      I got stuck behind a Chinese lady who spoke next to no English as she struggled to use her Costco gift card the other day it took a full five minutes for the endlessly patient cashier to get the transaction done.
      I was frothing by the end of it.
      I showed her my phone.

      Xué y?ngy?

      • benr May 31, 2023 at 10:23 am #

        XUE YINGYU

        AKA learn english.

  44. KesaAnna May 29, 2023 at 10:13 pm #

    ” Whatever happened to the Gender Studies Masters Degree program at the University of Kabul? ”

    Ancient history , 1978 – 1979.

    Parcham and the Soviets thought Amin was out of his fucking mind.

    But with his removal it was already too late.

    Perhaps the bigger problem was that the Americans never percieved that to many in the Mujahadeen Communist and Capitalist were the same thing. Atheist and Christian were the same thing.
    Russian and American were the same thing.

  45. KesaAnna May 29, 2023 at 10:48 pm #

    ” Montgomery Clift playing taps in ‘From Here to Eternity’. ”

    The way I hear it he was Woke long before there was such a term.

    But , make a million dollar movie with the Star Spangled Banner and all is forgiven and forgotten.

    Like I like to say , to myself ,

    it doesn’t matter what the CIA or the FBI does , the next movie or TV show will erase everything.

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    • tucsonspur May 30, 2023 at 3:56 am #

      He was gay or bi, I don’t know about woke.

      ‘The long suicide was complete.

      Many Hollywood stars have committed versions of the long suicide. Biographies of Clift posit that he drank because he couldn’t be his true self, because homosexuality was the shame he had to shelter within. But if you look at his own words, his testimonies about what acting did to him, you’ll see the culprit.

      His perpetual question to himself, as he once scribbled in his journal, was, “How to remain thin-skinned, vulnerable, and still alive?” For Clift, the task proved impossible. Clift once said, “The closer we come to the negative, to death, the more we blossom.” He took himself to that precipice, but he fell straight in. And so he remains frozen in the popular imagination, circa From Here to Eternity—those high cheekbones, that set jaw, the firm stare: a magnificent, proud, tragically broken thing to behold.’

      In Truman Capote’s unpublished novel Answered Prayers, for example, the author imagines a dinner party between Clift, Dorothy Parker, and flamboyant stage actress Tallulah Bankhead:

      “. . . He’s so beautiful,” murmured Miss Parker. “Sensitive. So finely made. The most beautiful young man I’ve ever seen. What a pity he’s a cocksucker.” Then, sweetly, wide-eyed with little girl naïveté, she said: “Oh. Oh dear. Have I said something wrong? I mean, he is a cocksucker, isn’t he, Tallulah?” Miss Bankhead said: “Well, d-d-darling, I r-r-really wouldn’t know. He’s never sucked my cock.”

    • Islander May 30, 2023 at 8:02 am #

      “The way I hear it he was Woke long before there was such a term. ”

      Spinnst Du?

  46. The Man They Call Zazelle May 29, 2023 at 11:18 pm #

    Ayaan Hirsi Ali: The Menace of Wokeism

    “Thank goodness these white supremacists are a very small minority… Their resources in terms of economic, cultural and social are negligible… You can mock them with impunity. They gather in obscure places online and in person. Their conventions are ridiculous spectacles of odious costumes and pathetic fantasies…”

    youtu.be/8VIMDbonuyQ

    —-

    Ayaan Hirsi Al On The Problem With Intersectionality

    youtu.be/9FcbwYEAgrk

    • KesaAnna May 30, 2023 at 1:38 am #

      ” Their conventions are ridiculous spectacles of odious costumes and pathetic fantasies…”

      The National Football League ?

      🙂

      How to describe something WITHOUT labels ?

      That’s actually a very tough one , but I’ll try.

      The burden of proof is on the accuser — that’s a nice idea , but it has never really been true.

      The burden of proof is on the accused to disprove.

      Now take an accusation like , ” I’m afraid of you. ”

      It’s the perfect accusation , because it is fundamentally impossible to disprove.

      You can present evidence that it is unlikely , even very unlikely , like , ” You’re afraid of this guy who is in a coma ? ”

      You can maybe show that there is a self – interested motive behind the claim . The trouble is that love / hate or money is the motive behind pretty much everything humans do , innocuous or sinister .

      No , you pretty much have to prove the person is lieing , and that would require mind – reading , and no such technology exists.

      If the charge sticks , you could be in deep shit , no matter how actually false the claim is.

      A formula I like to use is when pondering whether a policy is a good idea or not ,

      imagine if you would like it so much if the policy were in the hands of your enemies ?

      There is a very good chance the policy will wind up in the hands of your enemies , not least because it came with your endorsement.

      ” precedent ” is not just some fancy legal term for lawyers , it is very much a real life thing.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 12:45 pm #

        KesaAnna, if I understand you correctly…

        You and I go out to a dinner and fine art exhibition…

        We both ‘feel’ that one of the artists’ art, of a few featured there at the same time, is not art or at least art created in a more pure intent. We suspect that it is, say, ‘charlatanism’ passed off as art.

        The artist-in-question swears up and down in some interviews that their intent was pure and for the purpose of art and resents some people thinking otherwise.

        Unbeknownst to the population, inside that ‘artist’s’ head lies the truth. Known only to that artist, the intent was not actually true or pure and was just to try to pass off anything as ‘art’ just to make money and/or get fame and/or notoriety or whatever, but nothing of the notion of making art in a pure sense.

        So what to do? What to think?

        Well, it is our prerogative and right to discount the art as pure, despite the artist’s claims to the contrary. Ultimately, only the artist ‘and God’ (or objective reality if you wish) knows for sure, but that’s ok to us. We can live with that.

        Maybe on the artist’s death-bed, they finally admit its impurity or stick to their original claim.

        And so it is with the Woke maybe. They make claims about their internal states that only they can know for sure. But again, we don’t have to buy them.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 12:51 pm #

          …Unbeknownst to you and everyone else, I don’t care about any of the art in the exhibition and was only really interested in the snacks there, like the champagne, French bread, pate and cheeses and assorted finger food and microdesserts.

          While eating and drinking, though, I sort of pretend to be interested in the art by gazing quizzically at the art and tilting my head to and fro as I do so and occasionally sitting down on one of those benches they have in the middle to ‘contemplate’ the art in front of me.

          While I never admit it to you or anyone else, I nevertheless do a writeup about it online in the comments section at a blog site called Kunstler’s Clusterfuck Nation.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 1:06 pm #

          …Inspired by my real/true reasons for attending the art exhibition, not too long after, I decide to create and propose/submit a thematic series of artwork to that same gallery.

          The artwork consists of plastic representations (set in frames and placed on the wall) of typical art exhibition and vernissage fares of French bread, wines, cheeses, fruit, dips, assorted finger-foods, microdesserts, square napkins, silver cutlery and whatnot.

          My exhibition gets rave reviews, manifesting in a public demand for more new work for me.

          Alas, I cannot come up with anything with the pressure, unless it is outside of a pure context and meant to satisfy the demand.

          And so my next works turn into works of charlatanism…

          • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 1:44 pm #

            With the hipster rubes (all gentiles, right?) trying to eat the plastic bread, etc.

            Then I show and turn the “real” grape juice into wine….

            Rather, I’d have an exhibit with just all the real accoutrements but no “art”. The eating and drinking and waiting would all be the performance piece.

            The people would realize only later that they had been “it”.

  47. KesaAnna May 30, 2023 at 2:16 am #

    ” How does this reconcile with one’s Christianity? Are Christianity and politics moved into separate worlds here, each in their own independent orbs? ”

    Well you could read a room full of history books ,

    or , maybe,

    download a game called Crusader Kings II ( the base game is free )

    then buy the DLC , ” The Old Gods ” ( a few bucks. )

    Fire up the game with The Old Gods DLC enabled.

    Now you are looking at a religious map of Europe and the Near East ,

    ( as well as a game allows , but in any case about as good as any map I have ever seen of that particular subject. )

    in AD 864.

    Let’s look at the British Isles.

    Only roughly half of England is in the hands of Christians.

    The other half is called the Danelaw , and is controlled by pagan Vikings.

    Same story in Scotland ; only about half is in the hands of Celtic Christians , the other half belongs to pagan Vikings.

    I’m a bit vague on Ireland , except for one detail ; Dublin was in the hands of the Vikings , and Dublin was claimed to be the largest slave market in Europe.

    Iberia is four little Christian kingdoms that fight each other as often as they fight the Moors.

    The other three – fourths of Iberia is Moslem territory.

    Those examples do pretty well I think to describe the whole.

    Everywhere you look you see legions of pagans , or the legions of Islam.

    What the map basically says , I think ,

    is that without Crusaders we probubly wouldn’t be discussing what Christianity is , or whether it is hypocritical or not , whether it sucks or not.

    • tucsonspur May 30, 2023 at 3:31 am #

      Most all religions are fantasy, concocted for control, comfort, or cash or all of the above. The world is a harsh place, and when people come face to face with the abyss of death and the harsh realities of illness, pain and loneliness, they seek meaning and comfort in the fantasies of religion.

      Now it’s too bad though that these supposedly ‘comforting’ religions all too often cause really alarming amounts of discomfort by torturing and killing those with different beliefs.

      Numerous examples but take the situation in Nigeria. Boko Haram and Fulani militants have killed about 60,000 Christians in the last decade. You get the point; you know all this; I’m preaching to the choir. Throughout history, millions of people have been slaughtered, ravaged by religion.

      You mention Iberia. Let’s pivot to Pamplona and run with the bulls! Now that’s what I call religion!

      • Night Owl May 30, 2023 at 4:39 am #

        So who is our Hitler now, Tusc?

        Is it Trump (as you once claimed) or Poootin?

        • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 9:39 am #

          “Coat perfect fits
          Putin on the Ritz”

      • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 2:01 pm #

        Was taking the Vax tusc’s way of running the bulls?

      • malthuss May 30, 2023 at 4:22 pm #

        Nigeria. Boko Haram and Fulani militants have killed about 60,000 Christians in the last decade. You get the point; you know all this; I’m preaching to the choir. Throughout history, millions of people have been slaughtered, ravaged by BLACK AFRICANS.

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder June 1, 2023 at 9:11 pm #

        tuscon – Throughout history, millions of people have been slaughtered, ravaged by religion.

        Slight tweak: “ravaged in the name of religion.

        Very different take.

        Kind of like “killed by a gun”. Religion didn’t kill these people; it gave them hope and structure, as it does now. People killed other people using their religion as the excuse. Because people kill when they want something.

  48. KesaAnna May 30, 2023 at 3:31 am #

    ” Putin has had political opposition, outspoken dissidents, and journalists killed. ”

    I dare say that at least nine out of ten of these people you never heard of , and never would have heard of them , except that your media underlined it.

    Meanwhile , how many critics has the CIA , or even the domestic FBI killed ?

    I guess that’s all a bit vague , though the list is undoubtedly long .

    Which I would think is not much of a credit to your supposedly freer press.

    I hate to mention the Kennedy Assassination.

    Basically the only tangible , objective evidence we have is that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

    Certainly that is what your own government has consistently claimed.

    Why the persistent conspiracy theories ?

    Whatever the conspiracy theory ; The Mafia killed Kennedy , Castro killed Kennedy , LBJ killed Kennedy , Martians killed Kennedy , White Supremicists killed Kennedy ,

    none are even remotely plausible except it would require the government , and the media that counts , covering it up for 60 years.

    What the persistence of these conspiracy theories says to me is that while a large swath of Americans , White and Black , rich and poor , Democrat or Republican , claim freedom of speech ,

    they don’t really think so.

    Ok , so freedom of speech is somehow compatible with somehow keeping mum for 60 years about nothing less than the murder of your chief executive.

    If Joe Nobody runs his mouth too much and disappears , are you so sure you would even notice ,

    unless guys who play golf with the CIA , the FBI , and the Pentagon underlined it for you ?

    In my case , your problem is that I never thought you had freedom of speech , and don’t think so now.

    • tucsonspur May 30, 2023 at 4:23 am #

      I dare say that at least nine out of ten of these people you never heard of , and never would have heard of them , except that your media underlined it.

      Meanwhile , how many critics has the CIA , or even the domestic FBI killed ?

      I guess that’s all a bit vague , though the list is undoubtedly long . Kesa

      I think that Putin leads by about 15-20 kills at least. I bet that 9 out of ten Russians knew most of the names. In these cases, many of them flagrant, the news was reported in the media worldwide.

      Say underlined if you want. I’ve read about most of them, and I would say our media, for the most part, Reported about them straightforwardly. The stories, like the Boris Nemtsov assassination, carry their own sensationalism.

      • Anthea May 30, 2023 at 9:23 am #

        @ tucsonspur:

        I don’t know who Putin killed, or why–though I don’t douibt the claims that he did.

        No one could possibly be in Putin’s position and not kill people–or arrange to have them killed. The guy has largely restored a nation that was on its knees in 1991.

        Look at the US. It is not yet “on its knees,” but certainly on that trajectory. If a person of the same stature as Putin were to rise to power here and set about restoring the US to prosperity and good order, do you suppose that he might do so without taking some people out? And who might that be? Everyone on here has a list.

        Complaining that Putin killed people is like complaining that a general ordered his men into battle, with the intention that they kill people.

        • Disaffected May 30, 2023 at 10:02 am #

          Putin, Putin, Putin. If Americans spent half as much time worried about the shit that goes on in DC in their name the world would be a finer place. But they’ve been very effectively conditioned to externalize everything and view DC as a perverse solution to our problems. BarryO, Ol’ SloJo, and whoever else they put up as the next front man are exceedingly grateful for our continued support.

        • Islander May 30, 2023 at 12:29 pm #

          Putin Putin Putin.

          Many Americans still think Russia is some kind of “gas station” —and a lowgrade one at that—and Putin is no more than a “gas station manager.”

          And that the USA represents the apex of civilization to which Russia, and the rest of the world, should aspire.

          I am kind of surprised that people who think in such childish, ignorant terms post comments on CFN.

          • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 1:48 pm #

            Islander only cares about what happens in other countries. She care not a whit about what the Elite do to White Americans.

            Ukrainians and Palestinians? Great. White Americans? Couldn’t care less.

          • Islander May 30, 2023 at 8:43 pm #

            MUS at it again.

          • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 8:59 pm #

            Islander: He’s not going to invade….

            Pootin: Invades 12 hours later.

            She hates being wrong but is wrong a lot. That’s a big problem.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 9:02 pm #

            Like the ostensible results, if not the outright intent, of the Woke and associates, Jarek seems to want to help manufacture and isolate a race and sex-based ‘political identity’ and, in the process, foment division, among other ‘niceties’, along those particular lines.

    • elysianfield May 30, 2023 at 11:58 am #

      “Basically the only tangible , objective evidence we have is that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.”

      Kesa.
      That statement begs the definition of “tangible” and “objective”.

      • Paula D May 30, 2023 at 12:35 pm #

        Another example of propaganda they keep catapulting.

        You will never see a mainstream media source say one damn word that implies that they don’t think that LHO acted alone, and made the most incredible shot of his life, being as how he flunked marksmanship in the Marines. No matter! He came through on Nov. 22, 1963, all by himself.

        Like the hijackers who couldn’t fly Cessnas, but managed to slide into the pilot’s seats of 737s and fly hundreds of miles into the sides of buildings.
        You won’t ever hear a msm source doubt that story either.

        Or that the GMO injectables are anything but Safe and Effective.

        You could get fired, or killed, by going against the Official Story..

        • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 1:49 pm #

          The official story is that covid is real. You’re a believer.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 9:07 pm #

            ^^ Logical fallacy alert.

          • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 9:15 pm #

            I made no logical argument. I just stated a fact. Can you try harder?

            I’m waiting for your response anent Rachael Corey btw.

          • Paula D May 31, 2023 at 12:40 pm #

            The Official Story is that covid is a natural virus and so are the variations they have released since the first one.

            I know that SARS 2 and the variations released since are bioweapons, and I advocate for shutting down all bioweapons research labs.

            You are an unwitting Fauci stooge, since you fall for the “There Are No Such Things As Viruses” psy op, which allows people to ignore the 300+ gain-of-function bioweapons research labs around the world, blithely waving your hand and dismissing all that research being done as irrelevant, since they are just pretending. All 300+ labs filled with mad scientists manipulating pathogens are just faking it.

            “Oh, no, don’t worry your pretty little head about that research”, you say. “It’s all fake.”

            And then you are all proud of yourself for thinking outside the box. (Just like the psy ops manipulators planned.)

          • Jarek June 1, 2023 at 12:46 pm #

            There is is again: Being against Fauci’s fake virus makes you a Fauci stooge.

            Paula never really learns anything. She’ll shut up while being mocked to scorn, but she won’t alter her thinking. And when things calm down, she’ll start with the same stupid again.

          • Paula D June 1, 2023 at 8:20 pm #

            You are truly deluded if you think that a bunch of mental midgets piling on me is going to make me lose all reason and start believing nonsense.

            Not going to happen. I am rooted in reality. If 24/7 mass media can’t make me believe nonsense, why would a gaggle of bullies online be able to?

  49. KesaAnna May 30, 2023 at 4:10 am #

    “I reckon most people who have not been vaxxed are —

    — independently wealthy

    — retired

    — living in mom and dads basement , and a very indulgent mom and dad at that ,

    — lieing”

    — KesaAnna

    Nope. Plenty of us regular working folks are unvaxxed.

    — MaryQueen ”

    No doubt.

    But …..

    It’s been twenty years since I smoked a joint , so my info is , granted , 20 years old.

    I remember , for example , white collars in the office who smoked pot , and easily enough , because the office workers weren’t drug tested.

    The Blue collars in the plant were drug tested.

    I doubt making the product is any more a security concern than designing the product.

    My guess is that sumarily firing the ” skilled ” workers was more problematical than sumarily firing the ” unskilled ” workers ?

    Hence the difference.

    It seemed pretty clear cut then with auto mechanics.

    In those days the situation was any auto mechanic could say , ” take this job and shove it ” and get a job the same day , right down the street , for the same or even better pay.

    So of course they didn’t dare try that shit with auto mechanics.

    They didn’t piss test auto mechanics , and I knew plenty of auto mechanics who smoked dope.

    None of those cases were cases of people standing toe to toe with the man and saying , ” Fuck off , my private life is none of your business ! ”

    ” Slipping through the cracks ” can just as well be in a positive context , as well as in a negative context.

    But nothing particularly to brag about in my view.

  50. Night Owl May 30, 2023 at 4:35 am #

    Was just thinking today: That old Denver Airport mural showing a Russian-looking soldier, bombed out European buildings, grieving mothers, and a giant rainbow sure is looking much more interesting in light of events in the Ukraine.

    All paid for by the “New World Airport Commission” to boot.

    LOL.

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    • Night Owl May 30, 2023 at 4:37 am #

      Link for the triple-jabbed “anti-conspiracists” among us.

      https://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/p1000395.jpg

      • Disaffected May 30, 2023 at 9:55 am #

        I remember those murals caused quite a bit of controversy a few years back. Forget how they rationalized them then.

        • MaryQueen May 30, 2023 at 7:48 pm #

          It doesn’t take much. Just call anyone who talks about it a conspiracy nut and call it a day.

        • Night Owl May 31, 2023 at 6:47 am #

          The “New World Airport Commission” installed a talking animatronic gargoyle to tell the triple-jabbed that it was all just conspiracy theory.

          😀

          No, I am not kidding.

    • Amman May 30, 2023 at 5:01 am #

      I know that pick – a brown commissar ghost with a gas mask.

      Never knew Denver was so plugged into Demonology.

  51. Amman May 30, 2023 at 5:00 am #

    “Something grotesque is revealing itself: a bankruptcy not just of money but of national purpose, meaning, and legitimacy.”

    If so, what is left?

    • Disaffected May 30, 2023 at 9:54 am #

      Freefall into the void.

      • Amman May 31, 2023 at 3:59 am #

        Too scary to be true. Perhaps a re-discovery of strength.

    • Woodchuck May 31, 2023 at 11:31 am #

      What is left? Secession! A national divorce. Anyone who has been in or observed a bad marriage should understand this. It happens when staying together will have far worse results than going your separate ways. It is rather scary to think that the only force holding the US together right now is tyranny and the threat of physical force. Our captors have a parasite relationship with us, they are only here to feed on us and that’s it. Their motivations don’t go past that point.

  52. BackRowHeckler May 30, 2023 at 7:35 am #

    Well CFNers, the numbers are in.

    Memorial Day Weekend, Ciicago, Illinois, 2023.

    50 citizens shot, 10 killed in action, 40 wounded.

    These stats do not include a mass pepper spray incident, or a goodly number of people stabbed, beaten, and run down with automobiles. It appears Western Civ itself has evaporated from the City of Chicago, replaced by what? It’s hard to give it a name, but the city Chicago most closely resembles is Capetown, SA. By those standards, the new Mayor is doing a bang-up job.

    • Amman May 30, 2023 at 7:52 am #

      More dangerous than a Taliban weekend. Yuk yuk.

      • stelmosfire May 30, 2023 at 8:30 am #

        HeyJackass says 56 shot 11 killed with a total of 12 murders. Someone must have got the blade. Also two 2 yo’s shot themselves in two separate incidents Sunday night. Lucky for them they both survived.How can a toddler of 2 even hold a gun? Are the owners of the gun in prison yet? Police are investigating. “I dindoo nuffin” is about all they’re getting for answers

        • stelmosfire May 30, 2023 at 8:44 am #

          Chicago has a gunshot detection system of microphones positioned around the city. So far in 2023 the system has detected 56,323 individual gunshots. There’s lead flying all over the place. Incredible that everyone in town has not been ventilated by now.

  53. SpeedyBB May 30, 2023 at 9:22 am #

    …and if you needed to exercise your laugh track: “The Telegraph” banner headline:

    “World news | ‘Putin is terrified of Ukraine’s counteroffensive’, asserts Richard Kemp”

    “The Light …

    …at the end …

    …of the tunnel …”

    Robert F. Macnamara, Poet Laurate excuse me Secretary of Defense, 1968, right around the time of the Tet Offensive.

    “If we’d lost the war, we’d all have been prosecuted as war criminals.

    “And I think he’s right.

    “He, and I’d say I, were behaving as war criminals.”

    [2004]

    • Disaffected May 30, 2023 at 9:53 am #

      A loyal soldier/lap dog/scoundrel to the end, with “the law” doing a whole hell of a lot of heavy lifting:

      Kemp has repeatedly spoken out against the investigation and prosecution of British soldiers for suspected criminal acts in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as the opening of new investigations relating to the actions of British soldiers in Northern Ireland during the Troubles, including those relating to Bloody Sunday.[15][16] Kemp told the Belfast News Letter that he was concerned about the investigations into historic crimes, stating “It is obvious some soldiers do some wrong things of course but there is a very clear difference between them and terrorists. Soldiers set out to uphold the law whereas terrorists set out to maim and murder. They should be treated differently.”[17]

    • BackRowHeckler May 30, 2023 at 1:52 pm #

      When is Ukraine’s great Spring Counteroffensive set to commence, seeing as how there’s only about 3 weeks left of Spring? A few outlets are already talking about the great Ukrainian Summer Counteroffensive. One wonders how long Z can string this out (before the world wises up)? At this moment cash and weapons are still flowing into Ukraine, which is what’s important. Apparently there’s not much accounting of where exactly where the weapons & cash are ending up.

      • Rulo Deschamps May 30, 2023 at 5:39 pm #

        Speedy, Dis, Heckler,

        Intro: 2 main kinds of CFN commenters (not all, which makes it worthwhile to waste time on):

        – Reagan-Thatcher “conservatives” – originators of the financialization & outsourcing of everything. Financial $ creation now several times the amount of everything on our planet. More $ than resources. Heavily dependent on vast energy surpluses, then Alaska – North Sea, later kicking the dog in the ME to secure not just KSA but most everything else there. Irak. Syria. Still later: financialized fracking, “green” counterfeits. Continuators of this brand in the US: Every regime since the 80’s. Old bush. Bubba C. Young Bush. Barry. Trump, maybe. The current hologram. They throw a fit because poor people fool food stamps some. Blind to massive MIC, sick care, pharma, big corp subsidies. Big ag, too.

        Detour: many here, even in the 2 brands, throw a fit over vcxx damage. But blind to decades of bad food, experimental food, Monsanto-GMO food, disappearance of small farms starting then to consolidate in the vast ag corps of today. Food, however, is medicine. Part at least of the current derangement comes from very bad food, every day, for most. Along with screens, pharma candy, stronger deadlier psy drugs, so on.

        Detour 2: very rational in their judgement (although economics is not really a science) – cannot fathom the reality of widespread occultism, satanism. Cannot fathom JFK, 9-11, etc – “conspiracy theories” – but rational thinkers like Toynbee and Dodd covered dying societies quitting rationalism en masse. Greeks, Romans, always had an irrational element in their religions (Eleusis, Dyonisos, ecstasy) but towards the end it turned to crazed orgy pedophiles. Well documented.

        This faction is all for ecocide, denying the obvious: fish stocks, aquifers, rainforests, topsoils in sharp decline across the world. “I’ll learn them treehuggers with my deer rifle”

        The second faction (a few here? mitchell? k-dog? Random interlopers?) represent the WEF faction, “our betters that have a new plan beyond fossils and overpopulation – an iron hand in a velvet glove – C19 may have been part of their taking over and deciding the hard decisions). All for financialization, outsourcing, and yes, ecocide (except for a privileged few in their “gated communities”). Global warming their coco, their monster under the bed, “you (the hoi polloi) must stop burning gas and eating steak, because… CO2!” Which is another way to present the propaganda and frame the conversation: “it’s not that we’re running out of the stuff – it’s that we care about the climate”)

        For the record, sizable reserves in KSA and the broader Middle East, and… and… Russia. The whole UKR fiasco to be seen in this light. The reserves are vast but on the downward slope. And it looks like a “free market” enforced by the US MIC, using US$, is not the default inclination of the owners of the easy goo and gas, especially after we (“we”) hoist Lindsay Grahams, sanctions, Rubios, DeSantis’, proxy wars, and flat out WAR brought to them with the avowed goal of Balkanizing, privatizing and financializing them.

        Not sure where all 3 of you stand – fairly sure none of the 2 main fronts “Rayguns” and “Progress Prophets” is your chosen poison, but can’t be sure these days…

        • SpeedyBB May 30, 2023 at 10:19 pm #

          Rulo, thanks for that. I consider myself a “student of contemporary affairs” which is enough impetus to keep clammed up when I don’t know what I’m talking about.

          The more I learn, the more I learn that there is so much more to learn.

          Trying to avoid the pitfall of bitterness and resentment that all too often accompanies extreme aging. The world is indeed a wondrous and magical place.

          As Pierre Elliot Trudeau remarked as he was dying of cancer, “The universe is unfolding as it should”.

        • Night Owl May 31, 2023 at 6:21 pm #

          Is this an example of your masterful writing?

          You can’t even form proper paragraphs, much less analyze anything using in a cogent sequence of interconnected and logical points.

          This is so bad, even Q could get a few corrections in.

          Christ on a crutch.

          • Mike Sherman June 1, 2023 at 7:07 pm #

            “You can’t even form proper paragraphs, much less analyze anything using in a cogent sequence of interconnected and logical points.”

            Is there a word missing in this sentence, or have you left an ‘in’ in it because your editing is a little slack?

  54. Paula D May 30, 2023 at 11:31 am #

    “Everyone knows” that Putin kills journalists, because everyone swims in bullshit and most people swallow it.

    My friend who lives in Russia answered this particular lie some years ago and I saved it, because it never stops, and people never stop repeating it, because that is how people are. Usually I just roll my eyes when people here repeat bullshit and then stroke their ego by affirming each other. But sometimes I feel the need to point out the bullshit.
    As George Bush said (and I will paraphrase so Q doesn’t correct me)
    My job is to keep repeating the lies, sort of catapult the propaganda
    .
    And that is what they do and people don’t even notice, they just think “Well, I heard here from this source and that source and everyone believes it, so it must be true.”

    “One thing that is really apparent once you get outside of the bubble of western European and North American “news” is that other regions get it all, much more than what is seen in the west. For example, everyone in the UK and US is sure they know the most complete story and all others just get propaganda. That becomes quite obviously not the case once outside of those regions.

    A good example is a universal assumption in UK and US that Putin is a dictator, and thug who murders everyone who criticizes him. Russians don’t believe it because they see not only the western version and the Russian news that has major coverage of business and political crimes.

    Every single death of politicians or the journalists (nowhere near as many as claimed in the west) has involved investigations followed in the press, arrests, and convictions, except one. That one is still unexplained but the reporter, from 15 years ago, was murdered. The west says she was a Putin foe but her reporting was primarily corrupt businesses and she was doing a series on one particular oligarch in a southern region at the time.

    But all the others were put into context and one was a jealous husband, another minor politician was in dirty with Chechen “businessmen”, another in the UK was dealing in arms and controlled substances in the UK and had no contact in years with Russia. but no investigation for any of them was done before the press and western politicians blared headlines “Putin murdered critic”.

    If you saw TV and the range of topics and views expressed on Russian media, and no one getting upset you could see how ridiculous that western claim is.
    People just do not get worked up about someone’s opinion, it is not a scandal for an opposing view. Heck, the presidential debates featured far-right nationalists, the communist party, various liberals and a few centrists.
    Who was the main centrist? Putin. No one edits what is said on TV or in print, no one cares that much. There is none of the PC police like in the US where a single word that is currently banned can ruin a career. There is more freedom of speech because it is the nature of the society, regardless of laws…by the way, the constitution is a remarkably liberal document and it is supported. Read it, it is a pretty good representation of real Russia and very different than claimed in the west.
    Regarding Putin being a dictator, that is nonsense, the same way FDR was not a dictator although Republicans claimed he was. You stabilize a horrible situation and greatly grow the economy and increase personal security and economic mobility, and invest heavily in infrastructure that improves everyone’s life and boosts pensions 1000% over 8 years, and incomes 500% while cutting inflation from 80% to 2% and any president will be very popular.

    I have lived through these changes and it is remarkable how it has transformed the society. It is also misreading of the government structure to claim anyone is a dictator, there are too many divisions that have a say. Putin gets a consensus by being a mediator and drawing on the best plans from some very bright people in government. He is balancing diverse views.

    One of the problems with the democracy here is that it is TOO open. There are too many parties so none can generate enough support to dominate. Putin is not in any party. He was in United Russia but quite saying it was not in the country’s interests to have the president representing a party when that office has the entire country as the constituency, and he needs to represent everyone. The more people know about the facts, the most popular he is, and the most rabid Putin foes in the west are the least knowledgeable about how the country works, its wide up democracy, and how spread out power is.”

    • Paula D May 30, 2023 at 11:36 am #

      I looked up the quote….

      “See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.”
      George Bush

    • Rulo Deschamps May 30, 2023 at 6:16 pm #

      Hey Pau,

      Putin does in fact kill opponents. What did you expect from a former spook? It’s not the “disappeared” of Argentina (30,000) in volume, or of any number of other US sponsored anti-communist regimes throughout the world, but he does kill. He was seriously implied in Chechen-blamed bombings in residential areas. He’s been known to orchestrate false flags to further his goals.

      You may argue that his goals are “better” than the “competition” and I’d probably agree. But he’s a bad man, if also a very intelligent, very well educated, and dare I say, patriotic one.

      Xi is another POS, and his surveillance police state too – quickly being adopted in the West too, under guise of C19 and racism “disinformation”

      Mr mitchell would say, “recognize this and work to be useful to the powers-that-be, because they are smart, they are wise, and they’ll follow the Nietzsche imperative to deny morality to advance their goals. I think. I don’t want to put words in his mouth, but that’s how I read him.

      That’s where we differ.

      I differ with you in the “hero worship” – there’s no heroes, no good guys. There’s just levels of threat – for us, the highest threat is our own regime. For Russians, it may or may not be Putin. Most seem OK with him.

      • Islander May 30, 2023 at 8:48 pm #

        “But he’s a bad man, ”

        utter nonsense.

        You usually do a lot better than this, “Champs.”

        • Islander May 30, 2023 at 8:51 pm #

          Only an American could talk, and think, like this, on a par with “Orange man bad.”

          You’re more Americanized than you think.

          • Night Owl May 31, 2023 at 6:26 pm #

            Ask Rulo about Malthusianism.

            “We must eliminate the humans or the earth’s systems are going to collapse,” he claims.

            “Time is short,” he claims.

            Eight months later, his scientifically founded arguments are still floating in the ether.

            LOL.

        • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 9:00 pm #

          Both Paula and Islander are my country right or wrong types. Their country is Russia needless to say. But they live here. That’s a big problem.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 9:16 pm #

          As an anarchist, I would say that, at the very least, Putin is an operative, and probably on many levels if he was a spook, for a coercive State.

          If you want to call that ‘bad’, or him, ‘bad man’ be my guest.

          I have no skin in the game, save for what’s forced into.

          • Putin May 30, 2023 at 9:20 pm #

            ??????! I speak through translator…

            If I don’t take the reigns, someone else will and they may be worse than I.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 9:23 pm #

            Just wait until you ‘retire’ and then we’ll see what happens to Russia.

      • tucsonspur May 30, 2023 at 8:55 pm #

        Rulo,

        Most seem okay with him? How does one really know considering Putin’s control of the media? See here from ‘Foreign Policy’:

        APRIL 5, 2022, 3:21 PM
        On March 28, Novaya Gazeta, one of Russia’s oldest independent newspapers, announced it was suspending operations until the conclusion of the war in Ukraine. It had just received a second warning for alleged violations of the country’s foreign agent law from Roskomnadzor, Russia’s federal media censor, which could potentially result in a full shutdown. Since the start of the war, the Russian government has blocked or shut down all remaining independent sources of information in Russia, including the liberal radio station Ekho Moskvy, the television channel TV Rain, and the bilingual news website Meduza.

        Not content with targeting individual outlets, the Russian government has also blocked Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. The latter is a somewhat surprising move, because—unlike Facebook and Twitter, which are used by only around 7 million and 3 million Russians, respectively—Instagram has a following of 38 million (as of last October), many of whom make their living on the platform. Though the platforms remain accessible via virtual private network for now, and the Russian courts have clarified that individuals won’t be liable for simply using them, the designation of Facebook parent company Meta as an “extremist organization” suggests precisely the opposite. Meanwhile, the Meta-owned WhatsApp, which boasts 84 million Russian users, has been neither blocked nor marked with any special designation. Per Roskomnadzor, it was spared because it serves not to “disseminate information,” but only to “communicate.”

        You could call him a patriot, I guess. Putin must love Nietzsche because he can become Superman by exercising his will, a murderous will at that, which according to Nietzsche is ‘the highest form of human expression’.

        I can’t subscribe to ideas like ‘higher moralities for higher men’. Nietzsche is dead, in my book. I leave the ivory tower of complicated philosophies and dwell in the simplicity of the stone house built with the granite slabs of right and wrong.

        Thank you for being more honest than most about Putin.

        • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 9:02 pm #

          Tusc is against great Mean and without them, Nations cannot exist. He thinks he is being pro-Life but this is nihilism.

          • tucsonspur May 30, 2023 at 9:13 pm #

            No, no, think about it. It’s easy. You can have great men who are not killers, you can have a great nation led by noble, rather than ignoble leaders.

          • Jarek May 30, 2023 at 9:17 pm #

            Washington was a renowned Indian fighter. It’s said he could take a man’s head off with one swing of his sword.

            Noble or ignoble? Depends which side you’re on, right? Are you on our side or the Indians? The Blacks? The Mexicans? The Muslims?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle May 30, 2023 at 9:33 pm #

            You can have great men who are not killers, you can have a great nation led by noble, rather than ignoble leaders.” ~ tucsonspur

            —-

            Or you can have a freely opt-in/opt-out ‘anarchic’ ‘government’ that collects its funding (‘taxes’) on all its projects entirely through such services as GoFundMe, Kickstarter and gift/voluntary/community forms, and engages in and creates all its policy decisions through direct democratic channels and such software as Loomio or Efficasync.

      • Paula D May 30, 2023 at 9:48 pm #

        Hey Rulo
        Guess what? An assertion is not proof. Throwing in “in fact” is also not proof. Saying “he’s been known” is not proof.
        I know where you got all those assertions, because I see the propaganda just like you do. I just don’t believe it.

        The Chechen jihadists were backed by the US, just like the US backed the contras and ISIS.
        Their tactics are the same, because they are trained by the same people.

        Turning jihadist terrorists onto a society and then accusing the victims of their crimes is outrageous, but that is what our rulers do.

        An impudent reversal of the truth, as Hitler pointed out, is more easily believed than a small lie, because most people tell small lies, but would never be so bold as to impudently reverse the truth.

        You can think he’s a “bad man” if you want. You certainly have a lot of company in the US and Europe.

        I don’t think he’s a bad man. I don’t worship him, but I think he’s doing the best he can, and I have to give him big props for the last 7 years of my life. Yours too.
        I was quite sure that the idiot Obama would push Russia into WW3, with all the provocations the US did to Russia from 2014 to 2016.
        My father was dying in 2014, and I remember thinking “Hang on, dad, and we can all go together in the nuclear war”.
        But Putin refused to take the bait and here we all are.

        Probably not for long, but I hope you have enjoyed these last 7 years.
        I have, and I know who to thank.