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Grinning like Wonderland’s Cheshire Cat, the Golden Golem of Greatness pronounced this interval of fine fall weather “the calm before the storm.” Hmmmm. Talk about cryptic. This was less than a week after he verbally smacked down Secretary of State Rex Tillerson for “wasting his time” trying to diplomatically reach “Little Rocket Man… “ whereby Rex riposted, calling the President a “moron.”

Ordinarily — say, during the past 220-odd years of this nation’s existence — talk like that would prompt a resignation (though, there are no other instances of talk like that). Tillerson must think that for the good of the country he can’t resign, and God knows what kind of desperate notes are being swapped around between the State Department and the Pentagon.

Where, of course, dwell the generals, lovingly referred to by the president as “my generals,” as if they came out of a trunk full of tin soldiers in the White House play-room. A lot to chew on there. For instance, perhaps the generals have been waiting more than a half century for a good excuse to light up some really odious adversary, just to see how well our serious ordnance works. Or maybe not. Maybe they are all extraordinarily temperate and judicious fellows, averse to apocalyptic violence. Or maybe they are panting to be let off the leash by POTUS… or maybe they want to leash and muzzle the president… and perhaps stuff him into a pet carrier and drown him in the Potomac. For the moment, it’s fun to ruminate on these things, the possibilities are so rich.

But then, we’re told that this is the calm before the storm. As it happens, just this morning the National Hurricane Center has a storm called “Nate” aimed squarely into New Orleans, ETA Sunday. Now that would be an event the USA does not need, considering how things have gone weather-wise this year. Stand by for developments.

But I doubt the president was referring to that the other day. We are entering a slot of time where an awful lot of things might go wrong. What gets me is seeing the stock markets make new record highs every other day, whether Puerto Rico is destroyed overnight or hundreds of people are shot in a Las Vegas parking lot — and notwithstanding the overall phony-baloney condition of the American economy, with half of the flyover population in an opiate daze, and chain-stores shuttering to the tune of 10,000 this year, and car leases expiring into a car market dependent on liar loans bundled into janky securities, and the debt problem festering away like a something dead under the floor boards.

Some kind of financial accident with a this-sucker-is-going-down flavor feels like it’s waiting to happen. I don’t think Trump was referring to that either, but what if it came down around the same moment that we decided to light up North Korea? Or, alternately, if Rex Tillerson, Mike Pence, and a score of other senior politicos decide that its time for Trump to go? The president is looking mighty friendless these days, and more than a little reckless. I mean, for the good of the country, ladies and gentlemen, what are they waiting for?

Will his generals defend him? Nah. Fuggedabowdit. I wonder what the code-name for their action will be. Operation Moron Overboard? The whole spectacle is starting to look like a Coen Brothers movie. When the time comes, I hope they will make the documentary about these strange days of October, 2017.

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327 Responses to “Light It Up”

  1. benr October 6, 2017 at 9:38 am #

    As bad as Trump is the next guy is scarier and guess what the next guy is an even bigger douchebag and well lets look at the Democrat side oh wait that is even worse.

    • Dumbedup October 6, 2017 at 9:49 am #

      At least Pence is competent and Presidential. Yes, he is extreme right wing and he will continue to set back minority and women’s rights, favor the rich campaign donors, and cut taxes so we will have to cut social spending, but he isn’t going to let the country burn like our modern day Nero, Donald J. Trump. At least I hope so.

      • seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 9:54 am #

        The guy calls his wife “Mother.” That’s not presidential, it’s Oedipal. Competent is a stretch. Just look at his record in Indiana.

        • Dumbedup October 6, 2017 at 10:12 am #

          I have briefly. He claims to be guided by the principled conservatism of Russell Kirk. That’s not a bad thing.


          From Wikipedia:

          Kirk developed six “canons” of conservatism, which Russello (2004) described as follows:

          A belief in a transcendent order, which Kirk described variously as based in tradition, divine revelation, or natural law;
          An affection for the “variety and mystery” of human existence;
          A conviction that society requires orders and classes that emphasize “natural” distinctions;
          A belief that property and freedom are closely linked;
          A faith in custom, convention, and prescription, and
          A recognition that innovation must be tied to existing traditions and customs, which entails a respect for the political value of prudence.
          Kirk said that Christianity and Western Civilization are “unimaginable apart from one another”[14] and that “all culture arises out of religion. When religious faith decays, culture must decline, though often seeming to flourish for a space after the religion which has nourished it has sunk into disbelief.”

          • seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 10:26 am #

            No wonder he smells of moth balls.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2017 at 12:32 pm #

            Bravo for you new found clarity. And this kind of Ur Conservatism, codified by Edmund Burke but not created by him, and then passed down to Kirk, is just our version of Fascism.

            Similarly, our Rights are not granted to us by the Constitution but rather by God. The Constitution simply recognizes what is a priori the case.

          • Q. Shtik October 6, 2017 at 4:36 pm #

            Kirk developed six “canons” of conservatism, which Russello (2004) described as… – Dumbedup quoting from Wikipedia


            I buy this canon: “A belief that property and freedom are closely linked”…

            …but the rest are a bunch of mumbo jumbo.

          • trolleybill October 6, 2017 at 7:30 pm #

            Wow Jim I hate to say this but your like a lot of other (D) who have lost their mind with the election of Donald J. Trump. My God the (D) have been behind the trigger of every fallen President. The Shenanigans the Obama administration pulled should have even fervent liberals say wait a moment but they have become just as corrupt as their leaders. Fast n Furious 2,000 weapons sold to Mexicans which with one was the weapon too kill a boarder agent and the others killed many hundreds of others. Oh The IRS harassment of Republicans and others oh there’s Benghazi which some one should be brought to justice but that too was swept under the rug. Oh Obama let go 86,000 illegal criminals who went on to commit thousand other crimes. President Trump want to secure our boarder, reform taxes , straighten out immigration, and fix our health plans and what’s wrong with that? Liberalism is a mental condition

        • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2017 at 2:03 pm #

          Where did you hear that? It’s understandable: she’s so hot that he’s probably trying to cool himself down. One is reminded of Riff’s remark to Baby John, “We may have to cool them with heaters”. Baby John, “Can’t we just throw garbage?”. Oh Seawolf!

      • outsider October 6, 2017 at 12:19 pm #

        I don’t trust anyone who is a Christian Zionist true believer. Pence is a dispensationalist in league with Iranian haters like Robert Hagee.

        • messianicdruid October 6, 2017 at 5:04 pm #

          That is a serious problem. Judas was also helping out, being influenced by his own interpretation of prophecy. Problem was when he figgered it out, it was too late to change events and the Lamb of God was sacrificed at the exact time required.

          The next sacrifice will be misunderstood by most, until it is too late.


      • toktomi October 6, 2017 at 11:23 pm #

        What planet must a person be from to believe that politicians are anything other than psychopaths?

        “competent and Presidential” are not logical descriptors of politicians.



    • Jeremy October 6, 2017 at 11:17 am #

      Never forget that the previous Nobel Peace Prize-winning president dropped over 100,000 bombs during his presidency – including over 26,000 in his last year alone.


      The blonde madman has absolutely nothing on Obama’s shameful record – yet!

  2. seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 9:42 am #

    -33,000 jobs created last month. Not good. Not good. Biggest mass shooting in American history. Not good. Not good. Our SOS calling our POTUS a “fucking moron” for comparing war time troop levels to renovating the 21 Club in NYC, since talking to the waiters would have shed more light on the matter than listening to the so-called experts. Not good. Not good. Little Rocket Man appears unfazed by threats of apocalyptic destruction from the Golden Golem. Fat Man vs Little Boy continues with no diplomatic dialogue in sight. Not good. Not good. On the other hand the local Krogers now has the ability to call in shop, whereby you send in your order and just pick up your groceries on the way home. Ahh ain’t life grand?

    • outsider October 6, 2017 at 12:25 pm #

      As far as just picking up your groceries at Kroger, who would trust it? They’ll be giving you stuff with the oldest “sell by” dates.

      • seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 2:22 pm #

        I wouldn’t want a stranger picking my fruit or my meat so that kills that. But for the other stuff, I could dig it.

        • HowardBeale October 6, 2017 at 10:42 pm #

          They have an enhanced, hands-on service which offers to fondle your fruit and meat to insure that it is of the highest quality…

    • lsjogren October 6, 2017 at 5:46 pm #

      Sounds good but the Kroger’s thing pales in comparison the milestone for human civilization when McDonalds expanded the hours of its breakfast menu to all day.

  3. Mountain gal October 6, 2017 at 9:47 am #

    So it’s actually starting to feel rather scary to me. I too don’t get it; the seeming disconnect between the soaring stock market and the destruction in TX, FL, PR, VI and elsewhere. It’s as if these places just aren’t part of America and don’t count. When unbelievable carnage is unleashed in Las Vegas and gun stocks soar in response. What insanity

    So as much as I didn’t want Hilary elected, I figured that Trump was a joke and that he’d pretty much be a figure-head president, turning up for big events and otherwise spending his time golfing. I figured that the adults would be running the country and that we’d be protected from rash decisions. Now I see that may not be the case. Given that he has been allowed to send the tweets that he has, insulting other heads of state, I realize he may well be able to do anything, even start another war. Guess I always figured there were enough protections in place in this country that this couldn’t just happen at the whim of one man but maybe not.

    I’d guess that the well-to-do have their protected underground bunkers and survival gear available but I know the rest of us, the masses, certainly do not. I also know that we have madmen running far too many countries that have access to nuclear weapons including us of course but also North Korea and Iran. Our population levels are way too high but this isn’t the way I’d want to see a correction.

    • Walter B October 6, 2017 at 10:08 am #

      Well Mountain gal, if you actually are on a mountain as I am you will be in a far better position then those who take to the subterranean to escape. For it is written than not only when the going gets rough those who are aware will flee to the mountains where there will be places of safety, but that those who crawl under ground will be entering their own tombs.

      Jim’s statement of “perhaps the generals have been waiting more than a half century for a good excuse to light up some really odious adversary, just to see how well our serious ordnance works” if far more accurate than he may actually know. During the beginning part of the Korean War (it is still going on technically) the generals actually had the power to launch nuclear attack against the enemy (according to Daniel Ellsberg) . Fortunately for us all TPTB modified the rules before the Vietnam War began because there were many loser generals during that war (think Curtis Lemay, et al) that begged to be allowed to nuke the North. Just as some men with firearms cave into the desire to wantonly murder fellow humans with them indiscriminately, so too do some generals want, and have always wanted. to lay waste to masses of populations with the toys of death that they possess. As the civilian population decays enough morally to inflict death on its fellow Americans, I have a nasty feeling that those ladder-climbers who collect shiny little stars on their lapels are now closer to ever to unleashing hell on some patsy like Little Kimmy. Anyone who honestly felt that such a thing could or would not ever happen was simply fooling themselves. All systems of man are flawed and while mankind may create civilization and societies, he also destroys these things without remorse. Get ready for a storm, a shitstorm.

      • SpeedyBB October 6, 2017 at 3:37 pm #

        WalterB, I must say that I always enjoy your thoughtful comments on this blog.

        I would, however, like to offer a comment based on my own study of the war planners. When ‘Dugout Doug’ MacArthur was running the show in Korea, he would engage in practical jokes like sending a lone B-29 high in the sky above the marauding PLA forces… just as a reminder of the destruction that can descend.

        I have also read that he wanted to lay a ‘cordon sanitaire’ along the China / North Korea border: a line of atomic blasts. This was given the ixnay by the wary Harry Truman, who always played with his cards close to his chest. (He customarily referred to the corncob-pipe-smoking general as ‘His Majesty’).

        Around this time the PLA generals were urging caution on Mister Piggy the Mass-Murdering Hero of the People (forty million dead make Hitler and Stalin look like bit players). The Great Chairman’s response: ‘It’s just another weapon – another kind of bomb.’

        So they arranged for him to be physically present at the detonation of an atmospheric test. Seeing and feeling what even a piddling little ‘Made-in-China’ nuke can do caused him to change his tune real quick.

        For those young warriors (and war-gamers) who did not grow up in an era of ‘balance-of-terror’, even the ones plotting in the Pentagon, the inherent nature of nuclear weapons seems not to make the properly fearful impression. I have read that there is even talk of ‘winnable nuclear war’ in the Pentagon, though without any of the fussy details. That probably goes in the same file as ‘We could have won in Vietnam’ (Dubya’s immortal observation).

        During all the colorful 9/11 circus (with predictably patriotic leitmotifs strumming up afterwards) I kept thinking ‘Three thousand dead, and it’s this sort of Götterdämmerung? Even the littlest tactical nuke can take out fifty times that many burghers’, without even taking into account the cloud of radioactive debris sweeping the land afterwards…

        Anyway WalterB I could be wrong about the events in Korea but thought it worth sharing with our fellow spectators in the bleachers.

        • Walter B October 6, 2017 at 4:44 pm #

          Wrong? No you are absolutely right on. When I was in second grade during the Cuban Missile Crisis, the not-yet sold-out government did it job and conveyed to us, the general public not only what was at stake, but what was actually possible. The sellouts of today’s leadership are terrified of an out of control General Public from either fear of any of the forms of possible devastation possible, or from anger once they find out how badly we are all being manipulated for profit. They spend gazillions of our dollars keeping us distracted, disconnected, and disoriented. Nothing to see here, move along.

          Your assessment of Doug MacArthur is also correct though I like to recall the last speech that he gave at the Point when he said…”Let civilian voices argue the merits or demerits of our processes of government. Whether our strength is being sapped by deficit financing indulged in too long, by federal paternalism grown too mighty, by power groups grown too arrogant, by politics grown too corrupt, by crime grown too rampant, by morals grown too low, by taxes grown too high, by extremists grown too violent; whether our personal liberties are as firm and complete as they should be.” Thank you for you kind words. I love this place and all of those who frequent it.

          • Buck Stud October 7, 2017 at 2:21 am #

            I wonder how many clandestine North Korean agents are in the U.S. just kamikaze waiting to avenge the annihilation of “Little Rocket Man” ?

            Nah, I have to think ” those ladder-climbers who collect shiny little stars on their lapels’ will be rightfully over-ruled by those who understand the only winner in this potential conflict will be the devastation of asymmetrical warfare.

          • Walter B October 7, 2017 at 6:06 am #

            Well Buck, I am certain that there are agents of destruction of many nations living here right under our noses and always have been. Our defense however, has and remains the fact that once they start living here they quickly not only like it but are probably corrupted so much so by it that there are more willing to fight to keep it going than to attack it.

            Keeping the generals overruled has also been a successful defense against the ridiculous and there ARE some very good and decent men who achieve the highest ranks as you can see. I am only frightened by the loonies of which there are more than a few. Let us all hope that it can all be not only kept together, but maybe even brought back from the edge, though I for one will not be holding my breath.

    • Elrond Hubbard October 6, 2017 at 10:13 am #

      If you’re getting the feeling that certain places “just aren’t part of America and don’t count”, that could be because as far as the powerful are concerned, they aren’t part of America and don’t count.

      The most glaring example of the moment is Puerto Rico, where the reaction of the White House to vast destruction and humanitarian misery afflicting millions of U.S. citizens is a shrug of the shoulders and a sneer. Even when Trump goes through the motions because that’s still expected of him, the effect is clownish and insulting.

      Puerto Rico needs to push for either statehood or independence. They deserve better than this in-between state they’ve been caught in for the past century, and far better than the pussy-grabber-in-chief.

      • Walter B October 6, 2017 at 10:45 am #

        You and I are often at odds EH, but I could not agree more with what you have said here. One of the more depressing and outright evil things that men will do to other men is to set up systems of control over everybody else and then set themselves up above the reach of the same rules. It is slavery and abuse and I had hoped that we had evolved past this point. Regression is disturbing, isn’t it?

        • Elrond Hubbard October 6, 2017 at 11:06 am #

          People of good will can and do disagree, sometimes vehemently. I think MLK Jr. spoke rightly when he said the moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends toward justice. Over the long term, it seems like the only way things get better is by fighting it out — hopefully with words, not bombs.

          • messianicdruid October 6, 2017 at 9:13 pm #

            Conflict is God’s corrective method. Words of truth among men of goodwill usually suffice. Each must speak what has been revealed or learned,and each has a calling to exercise.

      • cbeard October 6, 2017 at 12:23 pm #

        A push for independence would be better than statehood. At least it would be better for America. Puerto Rico maybe not so much. We don’t need to allow a failed state to come into the Union. It takes more than a decree from politicians to make someone an American. I do have compassion for their suffering after the storm. That said, it is still an island nation in hurricane alley and probably past the carrying capacity population wise as is much of the planet. We, I, America can’t save the world. Its just like people living in flood plains. How many times are you going to bail them out instead of strengthening the power grid (maybe underground), building hurricane proof structures and or getting population growth under control.

        • outsider October 6, 2017 at 12:35 pm #

          Yours is a comment that makes sense. Please, no more states in the Union – ever. Even Alaska and Hawaii should never have been made states. Many who live there now realize it.

          • seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 2:14 pm #

            That’s where we’re headed. It makes no sense to continue on this way. Diversity is unnatural, whether it be ethnic or political or Ford/Chevy. The Deep South does not belong with California. Different set of everything. New England doesn’t belong with the Rust Belt. And Texas, well what can you say but Texas. A country unto itself. Ditto. We sure don’t need a Puerto Rican 51.

          • Walter B October 6, 2017 at 4:56 pm #

            Let us consider Diversity for a moment seawolf, and consider it as it would apply to sports team. Any team will certainly be comprised of many different and diverse individuals. If diversity was a means to a productive end, all of the players could simply come and go as they pleased, practice or not, screw off if they wanted to and then show up or not on game day and every team would win the trophy. Teams may consist of diverse individuals, but unless these individuals practice and learn to function as a non-diverse, pulling the same direction entity, they simply suck. I amazes me in a country where sports of every kind is a main concern of so much of the population that these same sports fans/idiots have not figured this out for themselves. Screw diversity, give me unity or give me death!

          • Elrond Hubbard October 7, 2017 at 7:09 pm #

            Walter B, this is a terrible and stupid analogy. You’re quite intelligent enough that you already know what I mean, but let’s make it explicit. To be clear, what you have asserted is the following:

            Diversity : society :: Absence of discipline : sports

            It’s a sign of weakness when you have to misrepresent something in order to criticize it. Diversity is not to society as absence of discipline is to a sports team. Diversity is to society as not demanding that all members be genetically identical clones is to a sports team. By your logic, every sports team not literally composed of the Octomom’s kids is a failure.

            Here’s a question: do you like bananas? If so, you may soon be praying to the gods of diversity, because the Cavendish banana (more than 95% of all bananas consumed worldwide are the Cavendish variety) is in danger of being wiped out in the next 5-10 years by fungal disease.

            What makes the bananas vulnerable isn’t the fiendishness of the fungus, but the fact that all Cavendish bananas are genetically identical, and thus all equally vulnerable. What’s more, the Cavendish became dominant in the first place only because exactly the same thing already happened to its much tastier predecessor, the Gros Michel, back in the 1950s.

            A society, by analogy to a biological species, benefits from having variety in its composition. When people rail against sociocultural diversity, they betray weakness, not strength. Just ask anyone whose Windows PC ever caught a virus: monocultures are weak, weak, weak.

          • Walter B October 7, 2017 at 10:19 pm #

            Well EH it would not be the first bad analogy I have ever made. It has not been one of my string points in discussion, that I realize. If the point of diversity being a good thing is that bringing in different peoples with different ideas, skills, cultures and whatever I would agree but with a caveat. If there is assimilation by immigrants as was achieved by the Europeans of the 1800’s and 1900’s into a common American culture then it is great. If there is segregation and clash of cultures as in the Muslim/English situation, well we shall see how it works because I do not see it working at all. Time will tell.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 8, 2017 at 11:26 am #

            I don’t want to be enemies if I can help it, Walter B. And looking back I think I was needlessly vehement, borderline insulting. Please accept my apology. While I maintain my actual point above unchanged, I do want to shade it a bit.

            First, some people just don’t care to have too many people around who seem too different from themselves. I don’t have to like it, but there it is. And pushing theories too far is harmful, even if someone likes me feels like it shouldn’t be, because when you push people’s boundaries, they push back. I understand and respect that. Worth noting, illegal immigration barely exists in my native Canada (the trickle of asylum-seekers coming out of the US in the past couple of years is an exception, but not even a very big one). Therefore we have plenty of scope to pick and choose new immigrants who are going to benefit Canada without seeming like an overwhelming challenge to our economy, our society or our identity. We’re very fortunate in that sense — in many ways, Canada is the Shire.

            Also, I don’t actually believe in promoting ‘diversity for its own sake’ — that’s a silly idea. I do think that my life is enriched when I have the capacity to appreciate and even share others’ point of view, which is easier when they’re nearby. Unfortunately there’s a dark side to human nature that works by organizing against the Other. There’s power and glory to be had in separating Us from Them, and that can go to very dark places: former Yugoslavia, Rwanda, you name it. In a way, the ‘diversity’ meme is purpose-built to head off things like that, by taking up the space that so often gets occupied by xenophobia. I suppose you might think of that as social engineering, but that’s what society is: institutions and ideas that enable people to live together and cooperate in large numbers without collapsing into tribalism.

        • Cavepainter October 6, 2017 at 1:38 pm #

          Interesting that even here there’s so much about bad, bad “humanity”, which reveals an alarming lack of understanding of anthropology and history. Nature’s formulation of human behavior ratio range is programmed to flex in response to survival pressures being exerted upon it. Take, for instance, how one gender agenda (they are different to purpose of dealing with a particular set of survival challenges) is shifted into preeminence appropriately in face of particular “pressures. That’s why the critical building block upon which all societies are structured aims toward harmonizing the two different gender agendas. In America today though they’ve been pitted against one another in a cultural/political war. Too bad, a suicidal development. Consequently there’s no coming to terms with the current reality of over population and what that portends for limited survival. There’s no reconciling now between the dominate impulses within each gender agenda;both out of balance to the other’s reflexive “save the world” impulse. One insisting un-tempered notion that all 8 billion people on the planet must be accommodated (by 1st World standard by-the-way), countered by also unrealistic notion that all contentious differences between cultures/belief systems be militarily forcced into kum-ba-yah harmony.

        • Walter B October 8, 2017 at 12:26 pm #

          Nope EH, I do not believe we could ever even be enemies anyway because I too enjoy discussions with those of opposing opinions as well (even if your avatar looks exactly like I did 20 years ago). Though I have never been to Canada ( I WAS a Canadians and Ken Dryden fan back in the early 70’s) I I am under the impression that it may be even more beautiful than America though a bit colder for sure. That may keep the immigration problem low BTW. As far as social engineering goes, you are correct, governments have always been charged with such responsibility, though in America, at least in the old days, the government was more of a “by the people” than a by royal decree decision making process. Of course today, now that far too many Americans refuse to care at all about participating in their own government, we have changed into an oligarchy so these social choices are now made by the ruling aristocracy instead. That could have worked out well had they all not sold out to their wealthy masters, so we shall have to wait and see what the future brings.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2017 at 12:38 pm #

        No, what they have is perfect for their parasite nature. They can rave about Independence even as they have their hands out for more bananas. When the Southwest goes Mexican, it will follow the same model. Hispanics simply aren’t admirable people by and large. And of course by that I mean mestizos and/or mulattoes. White Hispanics are White Men and can belong here if they wish to make the effort.

      • benr October 6, 2017 at 1:03 pm #

        Granted it has been a decade since the last time I stepped foot on the island but Puerto Rico does not WANT to be a state.
        They want to be independent while still syphoning off as much money as they can which is par for the course for a Socialist paradise.

      • seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 2:04 pm #

        West Virginia before that, New Orleans before that. “Brownie you’re doing a heck of a job,” still raises goose pimples on my arms.

    • HowardBeale October 6, 2017 at 10:53 pm #

      “I’d guess that the well-to-do have their protected underground bunkers and survival gear available.”
      And given the silver-spoon morons that I know, I am pretty confident in proclaiming that they don’t understand that when they emerge from those bunkers they will have an epiphany: I’m alone.
      A world not worth living in…
      I just hope to survive long enough to become a cannibal of the “elite.”
      “Bankers have a nice marbled texture–as opposed to those fatty politicians…”

  4. Dumbedup October 6, 2017 at 9:51 am #

    I wonder if October 2017 will turn out to be the apocalyptic month? I close on a house on the 24th and move on the 25th. Could we wait until the 26th?

    • noel bodie October 6, 2017 at 10:01 am #

      “I love the smell of napalm in the morning”

    • lsjogren October 6, 2017 at 5:50 pm #

      I always hope apocalypse doesn’t happen while I’m riding an elevator.

      • toktomi October 6, 2017 at 11:31 pm #


        I always hope the apocalypse doesn’t happen while I’m taking a pee off my front porch or any other time for that matter.


  5. Ol' Scratch October 6, 2017 at 9:56 am #

    The Catcher (link at bottom of the page) continues to be a voice of wisdom in a vast sea of insanity. For Ol’ Scratch’s sake, please don’t listen to him!

    “They toy with you. They taunt you. They torture you. They metaphorically mind rape you and ultimately they murder you and your loved ones. And you accept it graciously and shoot each for their entertainment because that’s what mass shootings are for the rich and their enablers. They’re entertainment that pays dividends quite literally in every conceivable way (gun sales explode thus increasing the rich’s return on investment).

    Imagine how the social engineering perception managers will present a nuclear war. It will be sadistic serendipitous satire replete with their cybergoons calling you a snowflake if you’re just a wee bit concerned about the mushroom cloud in your back yard and your front yard if you’re lucky enough to even have a yard.

    You have a choice. You can take the blinders off. You can remove the plank from your eyes and see this shit for what it really is or you can go to your grave knowing they’re yucking it up over martinis & golf and if you’re lucky, they might throw you some paper towels to clean up your mess before you depart this world entirely. Pathetic. All the way around.”

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    • Elrond Hubbard October 6, 2017 at 10:19 am #

      Mass shootings give America a woody — but regrettably, not as big a woody as they used to. Could the country be past its prime?

      • seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 10:24 am #

        Trump is the first candidate in American history to use the word “again” in a political campaign. I think that says it all.

        • 100th Avatar October 6, 2017 at 12:25 pm #

          And Hillary “her”.

          That says more.


      • Walter B October 6, 2017 at 11:07 am #

        Change the question to a statement – America is clearly past it’s prime. The society unravels before our eyes and simply cannot be kept from collapse. You want to know how I know this? Because NOBODY CARES and they will even tell you so if you poll them as we do and quite often. Far too many do not care about anything anymore except each one for his or her own little sphere, not even for their own children. “Oh, we’ll be ok, but I feel sorry for my kids and my grandchildren”, I hear this everywhere all the time.

        • seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 11:18 am #

          It begs the question doesn’t it? When did America stop being great? I think on that one everyone agrees: 11/22/1963.

          • 100th Avatar October 6, 2017 at 11:28 am #

            Raises the question, not begs the question.


          • Walter B October 6, 2017 at 11:35 am #

            Absolutely! The take over of the American government by those who profit from death happened that day in Dallas. America defeated the Arms of Krupp in 1945 and 18 years later became the New Arms of Krupp. This nation will cease to exist the day the Wars For Profit end.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2017 at 12:42 pm #

            Remember what the Comedian said in the Watchman: What happened to the American Dream? You got it. This is it.

            Or as the Indians say: The world is as we dream it. We have dreamed poorly. We need to wake up.

          • outsider October 6, 2017 at 12:42 pm #

            I believe that America stopped being great well before that. The day that Lincoln invaded the South comes to mind. But, I agree that America’s “Long Emergency” escalated the day that JFK was assassinated.

          • benr October 6, 2017 at 1:08 pm #

            I can pinpoint an even earlier source of woe 12/23/1913.
            Slowly running off the tracks towards the cliff ever since.

          • 100th Avatar October 6, 2017 at 1:41 pm #

            Carlin: “It’s called the ‘American Dream’ ’cause you’d have to be f*****g asleep to believe it”

          • elysianfield October 6, 2017 at 5:49 pm #

            “Or as the Indians say: The world is as we dream it. We have dreamed poorly. We need to wake up”

            It is a good day to die….

            To your earlier question whether a .357 Magnum can chamber and shoot the 38 Special cartridge…yes they can. the only difference between the two rounds is that the .357 case is 1/10 of an inch longer, with a (usual) heavy loading that might stress the 38 special revolvers…hence the longer case that will not chamber in the 38 special cylinder.

            We could carry .357 Magnum revolvers in Oakland, but all had to be loaded with 38 special ammunition.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2017 at 11:14 pm #


        • SpeedyBB October 6, 2017 at 3:54 pm #

          Of course I can remember parents saying precisely the same thing in the early 1960s when thermonuclear exchange looked more than likely. And with the same tone of resignation and hopelessness.

      • Jeremy October 6, 2017 at 11:23 am #

        Mass shootings (4 or more shot) ?

        As American as apple pie; and almost a daily occurrence.

        343 so far this year as of this posting.
        The USA is simply an armed madhouse.


        • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2017 at 12:44 pm #

          And that’s nothing compared to what they’ll do if they manage to disarm us. Last time the Communists put tens of millions of White Christians to death. The FEMA Camps are already built, waiting for the inmates. The American Gulag is very close.

          • 100th Avatar October 6, 2017 at 1:42 pm #

            ? Of course, as they tend to say, “so many christians so few bump-stocks”

        • Cavepainter October 6, 2017 at 2:50 pm #

          Not quite; the greater majority of gun owners are armed because they know that when TSHTF police and other emergency agency staff will stay home to protect with their weapons their own family. Those of you who seek banning of weapons in private hands will be the first to be cannibalized soon after the market shelves are emptied. Oh yeah, and forget about pleading that you supported diversity and “safe spaces” on campus.

          • elysianfield October 6, 2017 at 5:53 pm #

            “Oh yeah, and forget about pleading that you supported diversity and “safe spaces” on campus.


            Those pleadings referenced never work…you gotta tell them that “…you’re one of the good ones”…a free pass every time….

        • SvrzoH October 6, 2017 at 3:17 pm #

          You do not understand 2nd.
          At all.
          My minimalist observation.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2017 at 2:04 pm #

      Catcher in the Rye? Whatever happened to the Catcher in Lie guy?

  6. seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 9:59 am #

    America is right now Paul Giamatti’s character “Miles” in the movie “Sideways,” an epicurean loser who has made no significant progress in life and is content to motor sideways from now unto eternity. Neither up nor down, slope unchanging, flat line.

    • 100th Avatar October 6, 2017 at 10:38 am #

      Epicureanism posits that through living simply and pursuing knowledge one can limit pain.

      Miles, the protagonist, was a simple man, a teacher, an aspiring author, and a wine connoisseur.

      Not a glutton.
      Not a loser.

      In the end, he gets the girl, and moves on from the pain of his divorce.


      • tucsonspur October 6, 2017 at 3:21 pm #

        Right, he understands his reckless friend and he also goes in and gets the wallet.

        • 100th Avatar October 6, 2017 at 3:44 pm #

          The financially successful Armenian father-in-law in-waiting for said friend has the brilliant quote (after learning that Miles is a “published” author) something along the lines of why bother to read fiction when there are so many facts to learn.

          Artistry defining the loss of artistry.

  7. Bro Jobe October 6, 2017 at 10:21 am #

    If Trump calls for a preemptive strike on NK, then the tin generals may just replace him. If they back him, we’d be entering JHK’s World Made By Hand as soon as an EMP attack from Kim takes down our power grid.

    Imagine the US for three weeks without power, as we see now in Puerto Rico. Just imagine that.

    • Walter B October 6, 2017 at 10:47 am #

      If Trump calls for such a strike it is because the generals want it and Mr. Trump does not want to wind up as the victim of a “Magic Bullet”.

      • SpeedyBB October 6, 2017 at 4:02 pm #

        When it comes to Agent Orange dealing with Deep State, I always reflect on ‘…casinos in New Jersey…’ One imagines that the man had more than one sitdown with the sinister Sicilians, and walked out of the room afterwards. So he clearly knows how to compromise with superior (amoral) power.

        • Walter B October 6, 2017 at 6:16 pm #

          Very good point. Thanks for making it, I will remember that.

  8. sprawlcapital October 6, 2017 at 10:22 am #

    … with half of the flyover population in an opiate daze …
    Don’t forget prescription anti-depressants: perfectly legal, daze inducing, and somehow viewed by millions as the normal–even politically correct and progressive–drugs to ingest.

    • seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 10:30 am #

      I remember once I was dating a woman on them and she put her hands on her hips and said “Do you think I’m crazy???”

    • outsider October 6, 2017 at 12:52 pm #

      Have you ever been on AD’s? I have. If you take the right ones and need them, they make you feel better and DO NOT put you in a daze. Benzos like Xanax do that. Depression is a VERY serious illness, and a bi-product of our sick society.

      • seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 2:15 pm #

        That’s what she was taking. Xanax. I couldn’t remember it. Danka.

      • Tallulah October 6, 2017 at 5:49 pm #

        Exactly. Depression is humanity’s response to the sorry state of our home planet. Taking anti-depressants if you need to is sane.

    • SpeedyBB October 6, 2017 at 4:52 pm #

      That is truly scary. But maybe I’m so old that such a ‘new norm’ is not at all normal for me.

      These are the good citizens flying your commercial jets and running your nuclear power plants and doing safety checks on your food quality as well.

      One of my quixotic (hopeless) gambits here in Southeast Asia is to bemoan the prohibition of the charming old custom of letting elderly citizens lay in leisure, surrounded by clouds of opium smoke. You’ve worked hard, done your career, raised a family successfully and now you’re just waiting to die. So why not allow opium dens for us 70-year-olds upward?

      The locals I jest with about this never agree.

      Standard squawk-back is ‘But the children!’ which is precisely how Big Pharma and War on Drugs mercenary / operatives justify their machinations. As though children raised on a diet of zombie medications aren’t going to liege later into the illegal stuff.

  9. 100th Avatar October 6, 2017 at 10:31 am #

    “What gets me is seeing the stock markets make new record highs every other day, whether Puerto Rico is destroyed overnight or hundreds of people are shot in a Las Vegas parking lot…”

    The market is totally algorithmic.
    Emotion has been removed.

    Puerto Rico was worthless to begin with.
    One hotel in Vegas is having a problem.

    Move on.

    • benr October 6, 2017 at 1:12 pm #

      Speaking of racism and bigots Puerto Rico is full of them.
      They have a term called marrying up which is always marry someone with lighter skin.
      So they dislike black people and are not overly fond of white people.

      • 100th Avatar October 6, 2017 at 1:44 pm #

        Who are the racists and bigots being spoken of?

        • benr October 7, 2017 at 8:53 am #

          Look all over this board.
          Chances are the post I wanted to post under would not allow me to.
          The reply button is not always right under a post.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 8, 2017 at 11:30 am #

            That’s because this site limits nesting of replies (i.e. a reply to a reply, to a reply…). It only lets you go 3-4 levels deep. I usually just scroll up to the nearest Reply button in the chain and go from there.

  10. Launcher October 6, 2017 at 10:36 am #

    The United States is, of course, in a fiscal depression and has been since 2008. Said depression is masked by borrowing, zirp and QE; the house of cards is now teetering.

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    • malthuss October 6, 2017 at 2:26 pm #

      When does this collapse happen? The experts that predicted ‘by now’ were wrong.

      • seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 3:32 pm #

        So true. Intangible Drilling Costs. That’s what did it. I thought it was those evil bankers but it turned out to be the tax code. You can deduct up to 90% of your direct oil and gas investment. That more than anything created the fracking boom while simultaneously putting a whole in tax revenues.

      • lsjogren October 6, 2017 at 6:01 pm #

        With an abstract economic system, it’s hard to know just how sound or screwed up it is at a given time. One can see concrete evidence of a financially screwed up country if it is peripheral in the world economy- e.g. Greece. The US? As the nexus of the world economy, it’s hard to judge.

        What can be assessed with a lot more certainty is whether physical resources are available to continue the present state of the developed world’s economy. So far they are.

        Maybe a good canary in the coal mine is paved roads. I see the cities around here putting fresh layers of asphalt on the stretches of road that had become really ragged. In fact, they seem overall a lot better than they were 2-3 years ago. When the ragged roads stay feral, that will be an indicator that the modern economy is unraveling.

    • Walter B October 6, 2017 at 6:22 pm #

      When does this collapse happen malthuss? Yes many of us are asking that question and when I look at us doing so I am reminded of Karl Maldin in “Nevada Smith”, kneeling there in the river with both knees shot of screaming, “Finish me! Finish me. You haven’t got the guts! Finish me”! Yes, finish us, put us all out of the misery that comes with the death of a thousand cuts. Those who are being tortured always cry for blessed death to end their suffering after they can simply take no more pain…….

  11. K-Dog October 6, 2017 at 10:56 am #

    One may dream of operation OPPC (Operation Potomac Pet Carrier) but with mop-top gone what are we gonna do then?

    Forget the ‘we’ since all we are are spectators. ‘We’ are not going to do anything. All ‘we’ do is munch on cheese snaps and watch what is going down in flickering videos. Paying bills along the way if we can.

    That disclaimer out of the way I’ll point out there is no credible plan ‘B’ when OPPC goes down or any plan ‘B’ at all after that happens. The new guy, or dare we contemplate visions of Rodan flying on Washington DC and say gal, has any clue about what the country needs or how to patch our inner tube of state any better than Trump has. Perhaps not even as good as he since Trump is basically a random bacterium in our big American petri dish and he moves without overall direction. There may be advantages in having a president who can’t add or subtract right now and we do have one. Perhaps in the greater scheme of things having Trump drive the clown car right now is not so bad.

    How many years has the kabuki theater of North Korea gone on? Sometimes the more things change the more they stay the same. Nobody is going to light up anybody this year. It is all a distraction to keep the stock market and bookings at the Trump tower up and going and to keep your problems from being talked about.

    He is not my president but I point out there is nobody in the American political landscape who would take his place worth having.

    • seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 11:21 am #

      What about Gavin Newsom? I think he’s running for governor next, but Bill Maher is pushing him to run for president every time he’s on his show.

      • benr October 6, 2017 at 1:13 pm #

        Gavin Newsom is a progressive NUT who almost destroyed San Francisco.

      • malthuss October 6, 2017 at 2:02 pm #

        Check ‘The Bolognas murdered on Thanksgiving in
        San Francisco’—Gavins sanctuary shitty.

      • San Jose October 6, 2017 at 5:03 pm #

        I hate Gavin Newsom. While he was in San Francisco he had an affair with his good friend’s wife–what a skank.

        Not sure I’ve ever heard an original thought from his mouth. Hope they find someone good to run against him.

        Jen in San Jose

        • lsjogren October 6, 2017 at 6:07 pm #

          That’s a shortcoming of Democrats in general. No original ideas. These days, they are wrapped up in mass hysteria over the phony crisis du jour, e.g. BLM.

          When I hear Democrats talk about how insane Trump is, I certainly agree there is some basis for that sentiment, but my more overriding thought is- good God, do you guys ever look in the mirror?

          • benr October 7, 2017 at 8:45 am #

            California and our nut Jerry Brown just signed into law a bill that prohibits local law enforcement from helping ice round up illegals when they are caught for other crimes!
            The nuts are running the insane asylum and the laws coming out of Sacramento are some of the worst in human history.

  12. seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 11:24 am #

    Elon Musk is talking to the governor of Puerto Rico to go completely solar with the electrical grid. He’s done other smaller islands before but nothing like this. Imagine it.

  13. malthuss October 6, 2017 at 11:25 am #

    I got this book, and his crystal ball was off. Not yet.


  14. RobH October 6, 2017 at 11:25 am #

    Which old president should come back?

    Where I work, everyone who retires comes back ‘on bank’ and does their old job. No one new can do anything useful except be a ‘manager’

    So my theory is bring a former one back. I liked Mr Clinton. It always seemed he had other things on his mind to keep him busy. He had a nice smile too

    But Ronald Regan would look the part taking on Korea

    Surely being president is about looking presidential. Not doing stuff

    I am not American but it would be interesting to know

  15. 100th Avatar October 6, 2017 at 11:26 am #

    Maybe we should have elected Harvey Weinstein.
    Right out of the Clinton/Democrat playbook.
    But hey, he at least he presented the image, the right image, he championed women’s rights… parade, donations, fund raisers…

    The important thing is the lie.
    Americans want the big lie.

    Trump doesn’t, he just grabs ’em,

    Sadly, he’s the more respectable for it.

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    • Walter B October 6, 2017 at 11:50 am #

      Americans want the big lie.

      Truer and sadder words were never spoken and those with low expectations are rarely disappointed.

    • BackRowHeckler October 6, 2017 at 12:01 pm #

      Hey Avatar Weinstein is being accused of committing actual forcible rape, a felony? (real rape, not BS campus, Title 9, ‘he raped me with his eyes’ kind of rape)

      Has Trump been accused of grabbing any actual P, or was it just big talk in a private conversation — braggadocio — on his part? In the barracks, on the ship, in the plant, I know a lot of guys who talk like that, in fact just about everybody. I mentioned the black dudes I work with — alot of hard cases there — their thing is Big Butts; they talk about them all the time, in fact some nites its the main topic of conservation. I’ve become sort of a vicarious expert on the joy of Big Butts, in black and white women!


      • 100th Avatar October 6, 2017 at 12:18 pm #

        He is guilty of being all talk. That’s for sure.

      • seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 1:58 pm #


      • Sean Coleman October 6, 2017 at 2:04 pm #


        I spent an hour or two at the time looking at the accusations of sexual assault, about six or seven in all (the number may have risen since as others jump on the bandwagon). None of them looked remotely genuine and some of them were frankly absurd.

        • seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 2:26 pm #

          Oh please that’s like accusing a pickle.

        • 100th Avatar October 6, 2017 at 2:26 pm #

          Seriously? Who needs law firms and brigades of attorneys, or NY Times and New York Magazine reporters when you can have ole gimlet eye, Seamus Coleman, reading news bites for an hour or so.

          This place is dumbass central.

          • seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 2:43 pm #

            Little ears, little hands, little….

          • Sean Coleman October 6, 2017 at 2:47 pm #

            So you believe these accusations? Seriously?

            “Who needs law firms and brigades of attorneys, or NY Times and New York Magazine reporters?”

            Go on then. Tell me. Who needs them?

            You I suppose.

            And you seem to believe them. Or perhaps you are one of this blog’s ‘sceptics’ or conspiracy theorists. Who cares?

            Enough of the wind baggery. Look it up. It should all be online. Find one of the accusations and tell me why you think it is believable. Say the woman on the plane, in full view of the other passengers and the cabin staff. Or the other woman who came after him begging for a job. (The Guardian believed her but whey should we?)

            You won’t look it up because it is beyond you in your elated, manic state of mind. (Linking to Wikipedia does not count, by the way.)

          • Sean Coleman October 6, 2017 at 2:50 pm #

            PS, I have been meaning to ask. Why do your posts look like poems? 4 4 2 1 1 or whatever?

            Answer that question once you have done your homework, sonny.

          • Sean Coleman October 6, 2017 at 2:57 pm #

            Here’s an example of your oevre (2 2 1 1).

            The important thing is the lie
            Americans want the big lie

            Trump doesn’t, he just grabs ’em

            Sadly he’s the more respectable for it

            Wow. Soooo profound. Such insight! Such careless genius!

          • 100th Avatar October 6, 2017 at 3:52 pm #

            To believe or not isn’t the question at hand.
            The accused answered it.
            Settlements, a mea culpa, and an open letter, today, pleading for help.

            The paramount question is the one worth considering.
            Do the actions matter so long as he checks the right, and hence, contradictory boxes? He means well.
            Look at who he supports, see who he votes for, read about the “right’ causes he sides with.
            So long as his talk and money flow the right way, he can do as he please.
            And be forgiven.

          • Sean Coleman October 7, 2017 at 2:49 pm #

            This one isn’t about Trump but Mark Pearson, an ordinary commuter who had the bad luck to walk past a sixty-plus actress in the crowded concourse of Waterloo Station in London:


            Pearson can be seen in cctv footage walking past the woman carrying a bag in one hand and a newspaper in the other. The actress (who has lifetime anonymity) was wearing a coat over a jacket over a dress over tracksuit bottoms and in the half second that Pearson was close to her as he passed by she said that he inserted his hand into her privates. The Crown Prosecution Service took this seriously and Pearson was put on trial but acquitted by a jury, who deliberated for an hour and a half.

        • Sean Coleman October 8, 2017 at 11:31 am #

          Avatar, are you perchance talking about Weinstein? I’m talking about Trump.

      • elysianfield October 6, 2017 at 5:59 pm #

        ” I’ve become sort of a vicarious expert on the joy of Big Butts, in black and white women!”

        …And you cannot lie…?

  16. BackRowHeckler October 6, 2017 at 11:50 am #

    We’re bracing for an influx of Puerto Ricans here in the Nutmeg State
    — storm refugees — an estimated 75000-100,000 in the next few months. We already have about 600,000 Puerto Ricans in CT.

    Hartford (where most of them will go) is bankrupt, and the State is essentially bankrupt, nevertheless, the welcome mat has been rolled out, all kinds of plans are being made, and we are being lectured to by prominent Puerto Ricans (there is such a thing) social worker types (which are legion around here) lefty politicians (also legion) about our moral duty to take these people in, give them a place to live, educate their kids, and make sure they are happy.

    It never ends.


    • malthuss October 6, 2017 at 11:56 am #

      Bring on USA collapse.

      Why didnt the Ricans store food, water, batteries and help each other?

    • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2017 at 12:50 pm #

      Being both a mix of the two mixes (mulatto and mestizo), Puerto Ricans are the future of the world, the world Elrond and Sea Wolf desire: poor, violent, ignorant and controlled by a small elite. But what do they care? As long as Whites are destroyed and Western Civilization ended, it’s all good in their book of horrors.

      • Elrond Hubbard October 6, 2017 at 1:07 pm #

        The world I desire is one in which individuals, families and voluntary associations have as much freedom and scope to shape their own lives as possible. As always and forevermore, believe Janos’ slanders at your own peril.

        • cbeard October 6, 2017 at 3:24 pm #

          Its not slander. The truth hurts, doesn’t it.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2017 at 8:40 pm #

          We don’t want to live in your mono-racial and mono-cultural world. We want Diversity: our own lands and nations and other lands and nations for other peoples.


          • Elrond Hubbard October 6, 2017 at 9:22 pm #

            Your words betray that you don’t understand or care what I actually want, only the funhouse-mirror version that exists in your mind. Regardless, when you falsely claim that I want a world that is “poor, violent, ignorant and controlled by a small elite”, expect pushback.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2017 at 11:12 pm #

            To you, Diversity means no Diversity. I believe in the real thing – thus my love of borders, boundaries, limitations, and this as opposed to that. You want to blend everything together and rule over a mongrel horde of dumbed down deracinated greys and browns. They need you! And you love to be needed….

            It’s an ugly vision and you’re an ugly little man.

      • malthuss October 6, 2017 at 1:51 pm #

        I read PRs are 20% Black. What is the other 80%?
        Taino? White?

        Some of the women are nice looking.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2017 at 2:07 pm #

          Well obviously White and Indian – Mestizo in other words. Obviously the upper class, such as it is, is going to be more Mestizo and less Black. And of that, the upper more White again. Puerto Rico is confirmation of all that I have ever said just as it is the fulfillment of the Elite’s evil designs on the World. A microcosm of what they desire for All and Everywhere in other words.

          • malthuss October 6, 2017 at 2:30 pm #

            I recall a tale about the USSR.
            A Finn said ‘A Rusky said that she ‘didnt clean her floors, the help did.’ I clean my floors. Commies are far more class conscious than Finns.’

            I have heard the most racist place near the USA is Cuban. When you take peoples external freedoms away, they stratify more intensely, mentally.’

          • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2017 at 6:08 pm #

            Cuba is interesting because it had/has far more Whites who kept themselves pure, despite the large Black population. Mestizos too. Many of them fled Castro but there are still quite a few.

      • moflora October 6, 2017 at 8:51 pm #

        A serious question about your posts. How white does one have to be? Since DNA testing is available, What percentage of “white” is acceptable to you? And, does that percentage differ depending on the other race that is mixed in? I assume that those who preach white superiority have a threshold and I am honestly curious about where that lies.

        I suppose a follow up question would be if there are differences in your definition of being “white” for the purposes of citizenship as opposed to say, marrying into your family. Should those distinctions be made?

        • benr October 7, 2017 at 8:50 am #

          State of mind not of race.

        • Elrond Hubbard October 7, 2017 at 8:20 pm #

          You’re making a fundamental error trying to engage him like this. Leave aside the fact that essentialism is bunk, and therefore the concept of someone being some ‘percentage’ one race or another is not coherent.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 7, 2017 at 8:38 pm #

            My device submitted the above post before I was done. Trying to engage Janos as above is a mistake, because white supremacism isn’t about the pseudo-scientific concept of race – it’s about identity, specifically identity as a means to enforce unequal power relations. That’s why asking for a definition of what is acceptable is a fool’s errand.

            Whiteness was first devised as tool to control powerless and impoverished indentured workers. Telling them their skin colour made them superior was a zero-cost way to divide them from other, even more powerless and impoverished slaves. Being ‘white’ initially applied to settlers of British and maybe German origin, no one else. The Irish, Italians and Polish certainly weren’t ‘white’ when they first landed on American shores — not till generations after.

            There is no stable concept of whiteness in the white supremacist world view. No matter what Janos tells you, in a world where he gets what he wants, the definition of who gets to be ‘white’ will narrow over time. Maybe the Italians and the Irish will go first, maybe it’ll happen some other way, but it will happen. There will be no stable ground under anyone’s feet except the ever-fewer masters who own the privilege of arbitrating what ‘whiteness’ means to their ever-narrowing advantage. Don’t fall for this BS.

    • outsider October 6, 2017 at 12:59 pm #

      And now Trump claims it is a perfect time for a HUGE tax cut!

      • seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 2:07 pm #

        That’s YUGE.

    • malthuss October 6, 2017 at 2:01 pm #

      At you tube, Mr Gunz channel, there is a great talk. I think its under 19 minutes.
      ’10 deaths around the Clintons.’ Best short talk on the subject that I have found.
      Especially about Podesta and Scalia.

  17. badberries October 6, 2017 at 11:52 am #

    I remember reading an article in Scientific American back in the 70’s/80’s? about the effects of a single atomic warhead vaporizing the core of the reactor at Hanford, Wa. Northern tier of the continent would be uninhabitable from Washington state to Minnesota…forever. And we have how many reactors?

    So, I worry a little bit about our Commander in Chief (aka “Fucking Moron”) getting a twitchy button finger with lil’ Kim. Instead of war, let’s try a new approach!

    I suggest that we load up all of our excess consumer goods (the inventories of Goodwill & Savers and every Garage/Thrift sale for starters) and under cover of darkness, fly over N.Korea and drop that shit on ’em.

    We’d do it every day until they cried “MonkeysUncle” but we’d keep doing it! even upping the ante by occasionally including pallets of M&M’s/Red Bull energy drinks and Viagra. They wouldn’t be able to sleep because of the Red Bull’s so they’ll be screwing and eating M&M’s all night until they see “the Blue Light” and go into diabetic coma.

    Fucking Genius right? I’m calling the White House, but first,what about the guy that showed up drunk in Wyoming (really? somebody drunk in Wyoming?) claiming that he was from year 2048..Believe it or don’t, I know him….unfucking real,…I met him three years from now in a bar that hasn’t been built yet…trust me it’s a cool place.

    Oh yeah, the “Aliens” in his story didn’t show, they wanted to do some kind of flashy “Grand Entrance” but he fucked up the element of surprise so they went home. The upside is, they kidnapped “The Golden Golem of Greatness”. They said he was a species “Outlier” and warranted extended observation.

    Note to JHK: I started listening obsessively to “Gimme Shelter” about three months ago….and lo,..as if by magic,..the lyrics appear.

    • 100th Avatar October 6, 2017 at 12:15 pm #

      Except, LRM would still have grounds to wage atomic war.

      Americans… can’t seem to unthink things through.

    • benr October 7, 2017 at 8:52 am #

      Never has been proof that the norks have nukes there first series of test were nothing more than huge conventional explosions.

    • casamurphy October 7, 2017 at 12:41 pm #

      Nothing new under the sun…Art Buckwald proposed this solution to the Vietnam War. One of his columns suggested that the war would end quickly if we bombed the north with consumer goods.

    • SpeedyBB October 8, 2017 at 9:31 pm #

      Majestic commentary Badberries.

      And as I persistently, annoyingly, remind my valued correspondents, in the Pentagon the evil sorcerers are still muttering about a ‘…winnable nuclear war…’

      I happened to be in Texas in September 2001, saying good-bye to my elder sister who was near death from brain cancer. I flew out of LAX on September 10 (!) for Southeast Asia. Next day I get this unbelievable breathless phone call from a pal suggesting I turn on the TV and see ugly New York buildings falling down.

      In the months that followed, with all the weeping and gnashing of teeth and rending of garments I kept musing (evilly), ‘…three thousand dead? Shoot, even a tiny tactical nuke would take out twenty times more burghers, not counting the fallout’. Those of us who grew up in the Reign of Terror, excuse me the Balance of Terror of the early 1960s were fully aware of the effects of even a very limited thermonuclear exchange. From what I’ve been reading succeeding generations have conveniently, niftily tucked that grim peril away. ‘Oh yeah – Russian subs patrolling off the East Coast. So what.’

      MAD is still right there, where it always was (given that aging ICBMs might not be quite as accurate or dependable as was once the case). That does not seem to come into Agent Orange’s strategic >wheeze< planning.

      • SpeedyBB October 8, 2017 at 9:32 pm #

        The Russians, on the other hand, having been whacked hard in their homeland in WW II, are fully aware of the danger.

    • Elrond Hubbard October 6, 2017 at 12:58 pm #

      It can be a redeeming feature in vandalism when it tells the truth.

      • malthuss October 6, 2017 at 1:59 pm #

        Screw U is yr skool.

  18. Dumbedup October 6, 2017 at 12:13 pm #

    This is off topic, but I hope that JHK will write about this one day soon.

    The Supreme Court heard oral arguments last month on a gerrymandering case (Gill vs Whitford) in which Justice Gorsuch asked, “And where exactly do we get authority to revise state legislative lines? When the Constitution authorizes the federal government to step in on state legislative matters, it’s pretty clear—if you look at the Fifteenth Amendment, you look at the Nineteenth Amendment, the Twenty-sixth Amendment, and even the Fourteenth Amendment, Section 2.”

    Without looking up, Ruth Bader Ginsburg asked, “Where did ‘one person, one vote’ come from?”

    Justice Byron White ended up as the 6th vote of the Berger Court in a 1964 case called, Lucas v. Forty-Fourth General Assembly of Colorado which finally established “one man, one vote” as a principle of constitutional law. In 1992 Gorsuch was law clerk to the Honorable Justice Byron White during the time when he began to “rethink” his views on apportionment cases so it is fair to speculate on his views.

    There are two schools of thought concerning state reapportionment. There are those who believe that district lines should be set according to total population, including non-voters, and those who believed it should be set according to the number of registered voters. The issue is still undecided because that precise question has not been presented to the court. Last year, in Evenwel vs Abbott they ruled that Texas “could” count all residents in setting district lines, but it did not rule whether a system which only counted registered voters was constitutional.

    However, judging by this recent case, (argued last month) it appears, that Justice Gorsuch is hostile to the idea that there are constitutional limits to the power of states to draw district lines and that he may be the vanguard of a push to allow states the leeway to redraw district lines in any way they see fit. If only registered voters are counted in reapportionment, and the right and the ease with which it is to register to vote is further restricted, the scope of minority representation will be severely curtailed.

    One conclusion I have drawn from this is that we are slowly and inexorably moving towards “the tyranny of the majority”. I believe that this is because, in the view of some, only certain segments of the population deserve representation and a voice in government.

    • 100th Avatar October 6, 2017 at 12:16 pm #

      Those with $ to protect.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2017 at 1:14 pm #

      We’ve been tortured by the opposite, namely tyranny of the minority. Turn about is fair play and this will help end this nightmare of Federal over reach and racketeering. People like Ginsburg want illegals to have the right to vote. She doesn’t believe in the United States to begin with and that’s she a Supreme Court Justice is simply a travesty.

    • Ol' Scratch October 6, 2017 at 2:05 pm #


      What a totally ironic moniker and excellent post. Consolidation of power is surely one of the pathologies of late stage democracies, especially when complemented by the same inherent pathology suites in late stage (now global) capitalism. Can any of this even be resisted, never mind actually undone at this late stage in the game, or is the American experiment officially over already? Deep subject indeed!

      Personally, I think the only relief route will come through natural attrition, aka “death.” DA’s generation, the baby boomers and their immediate following cohort, seem to be the main source of all the current insanity, even allowing for the fact that it’s also extremely intergenerational contagious as well. The 1% is largely made up of that cohort and their families, who are also mostly white, and greatly fearful of the threat they perceive from all the “third world brown types” who are now crowding them out. The fact that this threat is almost entirely self-induced due to their sham government’s exploitative imperialist policies, especially in the aftermath of WWII, is completely lost on them, all of which is common among the wealthy leisure classes (as well as their lackey upper-middle-class poodle class who subsist on their table scraps), who always suffer from fundamental attribution bias and assume that their success is uniquely a product of their own superiority, as well as the implied belief that capitalism’s and democracy’s losers are simply lacking in those same virtues.

      All ideas of which Ol’ Scratch has been more than eager to promote among the morally decadent and mentally deficient western “elite,” who are already “reaping the whirlwind” as we speak, even though that may not yet be readily apparent. Ol’ Scratch counsels patience to those who wait, as all will be revealed in the fullness of time, and Ol’ Scratch’s timetables are not dictated by mere men.

      • Dumbedup October 6, 2017 at 3:53 pm #

        Excellent post Ol’ Scratch. Human nature being what it is, this sort of organized retreat to the past, and attempt to consolidate power is reactionary and spawned by desire for gain and justified as fear of loss.

      • benr October 7, 2017 at 8:58 am #

        Have you actually talked to the millennial generation?
        Brainwashed, brain dead, lazy, hyper entitled, and hooked on electronic screens, social media, hyper progressive, slack jawed totally dead eyed drooling all over themselves, and queer is the new cool.
        I fear for humanity.

        • SpeedyBB October 8, 2017 at 10:55 pm #

          “I fear for humanity.” Yeah, just wait until you eager breeders pass the eleven billion mark. You’ll be crawling over one another (or eating each other).

          I think every confirmed homosexual should be given a brand-new Cadillac and a condo in Cali, and presented with fifty thousand dollars in gold bullion for not infesting the planet with more polluting mammals like us.

          Get the population down to five hundred million or so and then you can go after the sodomites – stone ’em to death with a clear conscience. In the meantime you can observe with ironic pleasure a quarter of humanity going to bed desperately hungry every night. There’s your breeder paradise.

          • benr October 10, 2017 at 9:01 pm #

            Such a foolish comment simply because someone is “queer” (I don’t like the term gay it meant happy at one point)does not mean they are also not having children.
            Every power dyke couple I know is having at least two to three kids.

    • Cavepainter October 6, 2017 at 8:09 pm #

      Wel-l-l-l, keep in mind that not to far back somehow it came to be that destiny of our nation would no longer be the entitlement of citizen will, but instead was shifted to however many foreign nationals chose to ignore our sovereign boundaries and the immigration laws that were supposed to have been legislated on behalf of the citizens.

  19. JohnAZ October 6, 2017 at 1:24 pm #

    $ to protect? That is what a lot of what is going on in this country is all about. The Dems have a real problem, recruitment. Newcomers to the USA economy, whether immigrants or college grads, are cannon fodder for the Left as they have nothing to lose. As soon as they start accumulating capital, they start to protect what they have. And turn more conservative as a consequence. The Right protects capital retention. Lower capital gains, lower taxes, no estate taxes, etc. So building the wall, limiting immigration, stopping the dumbing down of the education system, deporting illegals, all reduce the pool of new recruits and yes illegal voters for the Left. Trump’s success with the wall is a bunch of nails in the coffin of the Left as the population drifts Right.

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  20. volodya October 6, 2017 at 1:34 pm #

    MIGHT go wrong? What do you mean MIGHT?

    The phony-baloney economy? There’s not a lot of rationality evident lately, whether it’s financial markets in ionospheric denial of everything abundantly obvious or bank balance sheets sagging with trillions in derivatives contracts that nobody in management, nor on bank Boards, nor in audit firms, nor in the alphabet soup of government regulatory bodies, have a sniff about. Do you worry about financial time-bombs? Well, there be those in surplus. Big ones. They’ve gone off before, not that Wall Street learned, nor the battalion of PhDs at the Fed. It’s not just the tattooed fatsos on drugs.

    In the more mundane realm of household finance it doesn’t take a Wharton MBA to understand there’s trouble afoot when the last payment on the auto-loan is half a life-time away. OK that’s an exaggeration. The average length of an auto loan is only 70 months. A third go from 73 to 80 months. Imagine that. These aren’t cars, these are millstones.

    Don’t look for reasoned discourse in the great newspaper and magazine publishing houses that cloak their political allegiances with steady-eddy sounding articles doing make-believe impartial analysis. It’s just the same old calumny with a bit of perfume. But if you DO want outright insults, they’ve got ’em, if you want fantasy-land economists, they have them too and if you want dog-whistles, nobody does it better than the New York Times and their self-congratulating media brethren.

    When you cut through the blather, what they’re all saying is that fly-over Americans are racist morons whose interests don’t matter, their concerns unworthy, their gripes without basis. As such their votes don’t count and so the election of 2016 is invalid.

    Will Trump’s generals defend him? Hell no, they’ll be the ones doing the termination interview. Drown him in the Potomac? Too much bother. Find a crazed gunman. No shortage of those.

    • benr October 7, 2017 at 9:01 am #

      QE, ZIRP AND CREDIT DEFAULT SWAPS are doing their job of raising process for everything even as peoples actual incomes go down not up. To put it in plain speak everything price was has skyrocketed while incomes have sagged.
      The majority of Americans have less then 1k in savings!

  21. FincaInTheMountains October 6, 2017 at 1:35 pm #

    Chronicles of the Civil World War

    Four days ago in Las Vegas this war went into a hot phase and Trump’s supporters all felt being in the crosshairs of the Deep State killers. And it’s no wonder – everyone understands that the mega terrorist act in Las Vegas was directed not at Trump, but at Trump’s voters and the appearance in the US of the term Enemy of the People is a matter of time now.

    And the contempt for the mass media, who saw in an obvious terrorist attack the insane outburst of a madman reached such a level that BBC yesterday openly said that such a terrorist act could not be planned and implemented by one person, and President Trump demanded investigation of the media that, against the background of such a terrorist attack, began to spread lies about Secretary of State Tillerson calling President Trump a moron, with the sole purpose of driving a wedge between the two.


  22. outsider October 6, 2017 at 1:41 pm #

    I read awhile back that SOS Tillerson planned on resigning by years end. No doubt, with Trump as his boss, he wishes he had stayed on at Exxon, making a cool 20 million or so a year. But, the surprise resignation of HHS secretary Tom Price, over yet another “travel gate,” may have put his own resignation on hold for the time being. As an actual adult, he probably didn’t want to add to the circus.

    Nonetheless, it’s great to hear that Rex could call Trump an “f’ing moron” and get away with it. The president is too close to impeachment to fire his Secretary of State. Trump must be biting his tongue – hard.

    • Elrond Hubbard October 6, 2017 at 9:31 pm #

      Word is, Tillerson, Mnuchin and Mattis have a ‘suicide pact’ whereby Trump can’t sack any one of them without losing the other two as well.


      This kind of palace intrigue, combined with the intelligence agencies vying for an effective veto on who can be president, is how republics collapse into despotism.

    • benr October 7, 2017 at 9:09 am #

      impeachment for what and more important SO WHAT!
      Clinton WAS IMPEACHED and what did it actually do? Do you really think Trump will be Nixon and resign?
      It’s like a Pavlovian experiment the word impeach and leftist/progressives start salivating and twitching at the thought!
      The unhinged left and their collective mania never ceases to amaze me in the hypocrisy of stupidity and moral turpitude!
      Meanwhile a serial career criminal and all around evil POS Hillary Rotten this way something wicked comes Clinton is allowed to break every law on the books and walk!
      I don’t like Trump for his thin skin and continued reality show type behavior but compared to what we sidestepped he is still preferable!
      There is NO ONE on the Democrat side even remotely capable, trustable or electable.
      On the Republican side almost as bad!

  23. JohnAZ October 6, 2017 at 2:19 pm #

    Watching Fox reporting that California Democrats are trying to convince Pelosi to step down and allow “a new generation of Democrats” to assume leadership. What new generation? Are the minorities trying to hijack the Democrats and get rid of “White Supremacy inside the party? Just asking.

  24. seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 2:20 pm #

    If Nate becomes a hurricane and hits New Orleans this will be the worst year for hurricane damage ever. We’re at 200 billion and counting and the record is 2005 at 211 billion. Another biggun and we could be headed for 300 billion.

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  25. Sean Coleman October 6, 2017 at 2:29 pm #

    Did Tillerson actually call him a moron? Some here are obviously following the story but it is the first I heard of it. A quick internet search indicated that he did not deny it, so it is not as if he wrote an op-ed in the NYT or spoke the words on live television (or is it?).

    Why would Tillerson be so indiscreet, so undiplomatic? Who leaked the story? Do these people read the NYT and Washington Post? Do they, in the main, share the media’s beliefs? Were they sympathetic to their sustained campaign from the very start to undermine the President? Do they share the media’s pc propaganda? Do they consider it as their right and duty as the ‘unthinking classes’ and the ‘Resistance’ to depose him? Is this the latest desperate play, after failed phoney Russian palaver? Have the media shown that they are even remotely qualified to decide events?

    • volodya October 6, 2017 at 2:43 pm #

      Nobody knows, short of a recorded conversation, whether Tillerson called Trump a moron. Three “officials”, anonymous of course, say that Tillerson said it in front of senior officials in the cabinet and national security team.

      One instance of a leak is just one instance, but Trump has had a torrent of leaks from inside the governing bureaucracy. This is a concerted effort to unseat him IMO. You wonder what this so-called, and self-glorifying “Resistance” is thinking. What this would portend if the attempt to depose him was successful is up to the imagination. You can plot a lot of trajectories for subsequent events. But what it bespeaks is a contempt for election results. In this they’re playing with fire ie really big matches and highly combustible material.

      To ask whether the media is remotely qualified is to answer your own question.

      • Sean Coleman October 6, 2017 at 5:34 pm #

        It is an extraordinary situation. Who would have forecast this twenty, ten, even five years ago? Our host perhaps, but who else?

        Nigel Farage made an excellent speech about the media ‘to’ the media in December last year:


        At 10.36 he says, “Really the question is not ‘Is the BBC biased?’, is not [addressing his audience of journalists] ‘Are all of you biased?’ but the question is ‘Do you ‘think’ you are biased?’ and I don’t think you do. Because when I meet people in the media they assume they are representing a proper, reasonable, balanced view.’

        And here is one of my favourite quotes (it’s not even a full sentence) from the late Richard Webster’s Flat Earth News essay: ‘Having long ago come to the conclusion that we live within a collective fantasy, or a set of collective delusions, and that the news media are on of the principal means by which we maintain this fantasy-version of reality…’

  26. RB October 6, 2017 at 3:05 pm #

    Only in the USA where arrogance resides can a man run for the office of president, win against every political hack on both sides of the party spectrum and still be called “moron”. Seriously? I find the man enormously interesting and entertaining. Camille Paglia suggests he is very masculine and no doubt does not pee sitting down as many of our current males evidently do for fear of wetting themselves. And what does it matter if the end comes now or later? For my part I thoroughly enjoy watching the swamp creatures squirm, whine, moan and ring their itty-bitty hands. As for the generals, they are a continuous line of incompetents and bear not just watching but getting rid of before they persuade our CinC to do something really foolhardy. But, maybe it is time we see what our trillions of dollars have bought us to defeat a small nation that has learned what nuclear weapons can do for you.

    • seawolf77 October 6, 2017 at 3:28 pm #

      Entertaining yes. Interesting no. He hasn’t said or done one thing even remotely interesting. Demagogues come to power in the most bizarre ways. People still think Hitler was legitimately elected. He wasn’t. America did not elect this man, the electoral college did. If America was one man one vote, Gore and Hillary would both be president.

      • outsider October 6, 2017 at 4:11 pm #

        How can one be entertaining without being interesting? To be entertained is to be interested, no?

        And as for Trump not winning the popular vote, thank god for the Electoral College! If California didn’t exist, Trump won by 1.5 million. He allegedly lost California by 4 million. If any state should have been recounted for fraud, it should have been the former golden state, now the fraud capital of the USA.

      • RB October 6, 2017 at 5:49 pm #

        I sense another citizen who does not support our Constitution when it does not meet their worldview. Had the electoral situation been reversed with Ms. Clinton missing the popular vote then I guess the electoral college would be perfect.

        I have found interesting the debates where one “journalist” after another went after Mr. Trump with knives drawn and yet he parried their attacks. I also find interesting his interaction with the press and their inability to win one. How is this possible? But entertaining for sure.


      • benr October 7, 2017 at 9:12 am #

        both gore and Hillary proved to be unhinged what is your point?

        • RB October 7, 2017 at 2:34 pm #

          What is yours?

          • benr October 10, 2017 at 9:06 pm #

            Democrats are all NUTS.

    • volodya October 6, 2017 at 3:33 pm #

      That’s exactly the thing, Trump beat TWO national parties. TWO parties, both lavishly funded by their billionaire paymasters. So, as you say, who exactly are the morons? How on earth was this election remotely loseable by the Democrats with all their supposed institutional and intellectual fire-power?

      An how did he score the Republican nomination? Again, against opponents that were made of money, that had money coming out of their freakin’ ears, and Trump STILL won.

      Trump literally accomplished the impossible with damn near every pundit saying there was no path to 270, that there was no way that he could insult so many groups ie women, Hispanics and still win. And you had people on TV decrying and deploring Trump every single day. And yet he won. Is this the work of a moron or a political genius?

      • tucsonspur October 6, 2017 at 4:09 pm #

        It was also the timing, the aftermath of Obama, the exposed dirty deeds of the Democrats, and those adorable “deplorables” turning out, along with the Dems’ miscalculation in Michigan, Wisconsin and Penn. And how about Comey and Russian ads in key states?

        An astounding, much needed victory for the world, the West, and for whites. But he needs help.

        He sits down with Puerto Rican officials in the midst of utter devastation and says in essence, “you guys are really busting our budget”.

        Can he do it again in 2020, with undiplomatic gaffe after gaffe after gaffe?

        • outsider October 6, 2017 at 10:04 pm #

          I doubt if it was a gaffe. Most secretly agree with Trump on that, but would never say it publicly. Hell, the Federals don’t have the money to pay for Houston or Florida, let alone the non-state of Puerto Rico. But it does appear that the private sector is stepping up big time to help, which is how it should be.

          As for Trump running again in 2020, he’d have to be insane to do it. That’s probably why he’d try for a second term – insanity!

          • benr October 7, 2017 at 9:18 am #

            What President is not insane?
            Who would want the job in the last thirty years?
            Half the country hates you the media is so biased from progressive(communists) it’s in itself insane!

            America is suffering a serious sanity issue.

            People virtue signaling ridiculous non-values and thinking its a good thing.

            My next door neighbor flew a we believe sign with all the lastest Democrat memes de jour and a black lives sticker on her car.
            I was amazed it was not vandalized like all the Trump signs have been.
            See that is the difference real values verses faery tale version.
            Respect for people and their property and the progressive(regressive) version of only respect those with the same exact views.

          • elysianfield October 7, 2017 at 11:05 am #

            ” But it does appear that the private sector is stepping up big time to help, which is how it should be. ”

            Yes, just as they did after the collapse of the Soviet Union…How’d that work out?

    • tucsonspur October 6, 2017 at 3:38 pm #

      Is it not fear of the unsanitary spray?

      Camille often pays homage to the transcendent, male urinary stream.

      • benr October 7, 2017 at 9:20 am #

        Some men sit to piss so they don’t spray the seat or leave droplets of mixed fun for the next person.
        It’s a respect thing not a lack of masculinity.

        • elysianfield October 7, 2017 at 11:09 am #

          “Some men sit to piss so they don’t spray the seat or leave droplets of mixed fun for the next person.
          It’s a respect thing not a lack of masculinity.”

          That is why the seats are hinged. I am afraid your stock is down amongst the readership after that embarrassing bit of spin….

          • benr October 10, 2017 at 9:09 pm #

            I should have added the other caveat of at night….I don’t like turning on the lights.
            What ever floats your boat clearly you worry about your own flagging masculinity.

        • RB October 7, 2017 at 2:37 pm #


    • SpeedyBB October 8, 2017 at 11:07 pm #

      RB: German men are said to pee sitting down. They haven’t done so badly in combat in spite of it.

  27. Boiledfrog October 6, 2017 at 3:58 pm #

    An October film. “The Harvest Moon” Opening scene, Trump barricaded in the White House, protected by a militia of “deplorables”, pants down, butt facing the press. Tweeting “my impeachment is fake news, America loves me”. His last act in office was an executive order allowing corporations to count employees as dependences on taxes.

  28. Elrond Hubbard October 6, 2017 at 4:16 pm #

    The Daily Stormer just lost its new .cat domain
    The white nationalist website tried to align itself with the Catalonian independence movement and got rejected.


    “On September 20, the offices of puntCAT, the foundation that oversees the .cat domain dedicated to Catalan heritage, were raided by Spanish police looking to squash the region’s upcoming independence referendum. On September 21, white supremacist site The Daily Stormer, domainless after multiple providers dropped it over its coverage of the violent rally in Charlottesville, registered dailystormer.cat.

    “Since then, a reported majority of Catalonians voted for secession in a referendum on October 1, triggering a violent backlash by the Spanish government and an ongoing political conflict that Reuters labeled the ‘Catalonia independence crisis.’ The Daily Stormer site continued to be served from its new .cat domain and adopted a cat logo at the top of the site. …

    “When a user asked puntCAT about the website on September 30, a representative for the foundation said ‘our team is already doing procedure for the immediate suspension of the domain for lack of contents, to put in danger the integrity and the good name of the register .cat, the language and the Catalan culture,’ according to an email shared with The Outline. This morning, dailystormer.cat went offline.”

    You’d think the good people of Catalonia had enough on their plate, seeking their independence from Spain. But still they took the time to join the steadily mounting list of Internet registrars and top-level domain administrators who have rejected the hateful Daily Stormer website and its gospel of bondage.

    In addition to the Catalans, the ever-growing honour roll now includes:

    – GoDaddy
    – Google
    – Twitter
    – Cloudflare
    – The Russians
    – The Chinese
    – The Cayman Islands
    – The Albanians (“Alba” means “white”… That’s gotta hurt.)
    easyDNS (not so easy after all).
    Namecheap (Guess they felt the price was too high).
    – A series of national TLDs too long to list.

    (Source: Google search.) So bad is the stench of rot and offense they give off that they couldn’t even survive as a hidden service on Tor, where drug dealers and pederasts go to thrive.

    Bravo, Catalonia. Bravo, humanity. Here’s to unanimity in the face of evil. Hip hip, hooray!

    • tucsonspur October 6, 2017 at 4:51 pm #

      Is Pep Masoliver still being held by the Spanish police?

    • Janos Skorenzy October 6, 2017 at 6:17 pm #

      Whites are being denied their civil rights in the new Globalist Culture. Ultimately that will include the right to buy, sell or even live. Elrond smiles his wintry smile at the thought. Sea Wolf titters, chortles, giggles, and guffaws as he rolls on his back, waving his legs in the air. Elrond’s smile widens slightly at the grotesque display, revealing his pointed teeth for a second. Meanwhile Scratch rubs his hairy palms together in delight.

    • 100th Avatar October 6, 2017 at 7:25 pm #

      Aixo no!

  29. rapier October 6, 2017 at 6:17 pm #

    Trump’s “calm” comment had no meaning. Like all his word they were just a way of trolling people and triggering their emotions. His words have no literal meaning. Even when they at least sort of make some sense like these, instead of the non sequitur filled word salad he usually uses. You have been suckered.

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  30. Htruth October 6, 2017 at 7:29 pm #

    Some are claiming that the Las Vegas attack was fake. No one was killed. I kid you not: Steve Pieczenik said no one was killed: https://youtu.be/fvYAbjGPOoA

    • Ol' Scratch October 7, 2017 at 7:17 am #

      Imagine that! As I reminded Blatty back in the day (and he was kind enough to attribute to me in his books), Ol’ Scratch suggests lies to deceive you, but he also suggests mixing truth with lies to confuse you. Of course the latter is a far more effective weapon in the hands of my acolytes (Contrary to my portrayal in The Exorcist, Ol’ Scratch lacks agency in the physical world), but a good random mix of the two is always the best policy.

    • thwack October 7, 2017 at 11:34 am #

      anybody who can fake a moon landing can easily fake a mass shooting.

      just sayin

  31. tucsonspur October 6, 2017 at 8:07 pm #

    Sadly, the Trump effect is growing. In the wrong direction.

    The churlish, conniving, clowns jump with joy, waiting our arrival into their cold cinerarium.


  32. trypillian October 6, 2017 at 8:45 pm #

    He is grinning like a Cheshire Cat because of his nice Pussy Cat spouse, who somehow or other has come to terms with his shortcomings. In this vein he shares these diminutive demensions with his adversary; ‘little rocket man’. The Emperor merely wants to compensate for winky. A big bang or two would solve everything. He really wants to expirience the calm after the storm.

    • tucsonspur October 6, 2017 at 9:22 pm #

      Light up a smoke and ask NOKO, “how was it for you”?

      • RB October 7, 2017 at 2:39 pm #

        Ahhh. The days of smoking when people were much calmer and relaxed. Now they do hard drugs. Bring back the cigarettes and do it soon.

        • tucsonspur October 7, 2017 at 3:53 pm #


  33. FincaInTheMountains October 6, 2017 at 8:47 pm #

    No one still is investigating the supply of missile technology to North Korea, which will deliver a thermonuclear warhead to the Boeing factories.

  34. pequiste October 6, 2017 at 9:15 pm #

    Jeremy, in one of this weeks opening salvos of the of the commentariat, discussing this weeks topic: “Light It Up.” mentions that the tres-Kool Barry O. dropped 100,00 bombs in various military operations, across the world during his presidency. That’s a shit load of bombs, Boss!

    You all do know why Barack Hussein Obama won the Nobel Piece Prize, don’t you? Because the founder of the prize, Alfred Nobel, would have loved the “work” of the former U.S. president. That is the dropping of tens of thousands of bombs and tons of ordnance in the production of piece(s). Ole Alfred Nobel is not only known as the inventor of dynamite but also owned Bofors, which he had redirected from its previous role as primarily an iron and steel producer to a major manufacturer of cannon and other armaments. They still do today.

    Light it up indeed.

    Bombs Away!

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    • tucsonspur October 6, 2017 at 10:03 pm #

      “tres-Kool Barry O.”

      I know, you mean “Obomber”.

      You have the creamy smooth Bill Clinton, the somewhat bumbling Bush, and then the sultan of suave himself seducing the nation with his surreptitious solace.

      My God it’s astounding, the differences between Obama and Trump, considering their backgrounds.

      • benr October 7, 2017 at 9:24 am #

        Barry Soetero was hardly smooth or suave he was a bumbling moron without his precious teleprompter.
        A stuttering half wit with an ego as big as any I have ever seen.
        Hell his “wife” is far more masculine then he ever was!

      • thwack October 7, 2017 at 11:28 am #

        My God it’s astounding, the differences between Obama and Trump, considering their backgrounds.


        Not really.

        A white man can behave any way he wants, including like a nigger; and still become president of the United States.

        Thats what White Supremacy means.

        Matter of fact, the more impulsive, loud, flashy and arrogant he acts, the more popular he becomes.

        He showed all you suckahs

        He shook up the world.

        He must be the greatest!!!


    • Ol' Scratch October 7, 2017 at 7:11 am #

      In the world of Inverted Totalitarianism (“freedom” through “full spectrum dominance,” or, “you’re free to think and do whatever you like, as long it’s been market tested and approved”), war is peace and peace is war. Obama and Trump are a study in contrasts, which was duly market tested and found to be a trending idea in 2016, even though it got a little out of hand afterward.

      By 2020 that will all change as the pendulum swings back the other way. New solutions will be market tested and two new presidential pageant themes will be rolled out for the masses’ entertainment, as the marketing of “participative democracy” rolls on into yet another decade of officially approved safe choices.

  35. pequiste October 6, 2017 at 9:31 pm #

    And I learned a couple of interesting facts with my late arrival into the CFN today:

    Elrond is against the free expression of ideas. Well done Elrond – in the finest tradition of Totalitarians and Authoritarians everywhere.

    Secondly, that BackRowHeckler is full of surprises: “I’ve become sort of a vicarious expert on the joy of Big Butts, in black and white women!”

    No buts about it; quite the morsel of self-disclosure there BRH. The big question, though, is “steatopygia” versus “callipygia?” I do not, however, need to know your answer.

    As Caligula used to say: “De gustibus non est disputandum.”

    • pequiste October 6, 2017 at 9:42 pm #

      I do not think there is anyone actually too close to a governmental briefcase with the buttons and launch codes; dual-keyed control panels in a silo or sub; or at the throttles of a long-range bomber with the level in sociopathic or psychopathic malignancy to “light it up.”

      Maybe I am mistaken but, as I understand it, the problem with using just a little bit of that special arsenal generally means, after all is said and done, that most of those party favours are going to be used.

      Blessed Saint Stanley of Kubrick addressed this topic conclusively:


    • elysianfield October 7, 2017 at 7:10 pm #

      Did not Caligula also say: “Amo cornu magnum et non mentior”?

    • Elrond Hubbard October 7, 2017 at 8:53 pm #

      I am completely in favour of free speech, for Andrew Anglin or anyone else. He can say what he wants, where he wants, to whom he wants.

      But if Andrew Anglin wants to do more than rave and drool on a street corner — and pay close attention, pequiste, because this is crucial — he needs other people to cooperate with him. That cooperation isn’t a right the way free speech is a right. It’s a free choice, made by free people.

      Anglin’s rights are being meticulously respected, pequiste, by me and by everyone else. He has searched the world over, and found not one person who will lift a finger to help, or devote the measliest resources to enable him to spread his message. That, my friend, is cause for celebration. And as a proud left-winger who takes universal human rights very seriously, I am utterly comfortable with it and with myself.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 7, 2017 at 9:06 pm #

        Because you will destroy anyone who does. Thus Whites are far more racist in anonymous polls. And yes, it’s not admirable. You have colonized their very wills and in some cases, minds. People just surrender to the dominant ideology – even if its killing everything they love.

        The end result? Modern Germany where most just accept the end of their Culture and Race via mass invasion of an alien and hostile culture and religion and the alien races that make up the “believers”.

      • pequiste October 7, 2017 at 10:04 pm #

        I think your claim is clouded by the self-deceptive optique of your proud left-wingerism and early October brain-frost there Elrond.

        Every sort of ontological, theological, political, sexual or whatever else sort of belief or activity, is given space on the internet – it is all about the money (or maybe about the Power to shut people up eh?)

        Black FLies Matter and Louis Farrakhan to the New Black Panther Party and the latest hip-hop abortions are all there for the viewer and listener. NO holds barred, websites galore and plenty of sponsors too. Busta capp muthafukka! Rape that bitch! Kill the police! kILL wHITEY!


        Then there is the Umma Internet and social media experience; where those lovers of Humanity: from al Queda, the Taliban, and everyones favourite proto-state, yes! the Islamic State (robbers, thieves, enslavers, murderers) have plenty of space, websites and Facebook and Twitter feeds, to keep hearts and hands busy spreading the gospel, er, I mean loving message of PBUH the Prophet Muhammad. Yep. NO problem there – getting servers and ISPs, lots of sponsors too.


        How about paedophiles and child abusers?:



        And everything demonic, Satanic and disgusting included:


        I think you get my point here. Is all permissible on the internet today or perhaps there is censorship of only certain things. Does this suggest that the Daily Stormer maybe hits too close to the bone?

        What would Mel Brooks say?


        So if I understand you correctly, cooperation is the key; for many of the world’s vilest cultural expressions, beliefs and activities get all the space they need on the Internet and yet some guy who reveres Hitler and likes Nazi uniforms is rightly forbidden from the great Agora of ideas because no one will cooperate with him? Hmmmmm…

        And a bonus question for extra credit Elrond: HOw many humans were butchered by the Communists in the 20th Century?



        A murderous ideology – the Hammer and sickle – gets Internet space too, even for Canadians.

        • Elrond Hubbard October 7, 2017 at 10:43 pm #

          Let’s suppose there are things in this world, in addition to the Daily Stormer, that are revolting. Let’s say further that people don’t react to them in the same way that they are reacting to the revolting Daily Stormer — that is, with immediate and principled revulsion. I fail to see how that makes the Daily Stormer any less revolting.

          pequiste: “Does this suggest that the Daily Stormer maybe hits too close to the bone?”

          Here’s what it suggests to me: In the aftermath of Charlottesville, amid all the other blemishes on the body politic (in which I do NOT include Black Lives* Matter), the spotlight of public attention found the Daily Stormer. People suddenly discovered that a truly purulent abscess had been growing under their society’s skin, and reacted appropriately: with determination to fight the sickness. End of story.

          pequiste: “HOw many humans were butchered by the Communists in the 20th Century?”

          From Wikipedia: “The highest death tolls that have been documented in communist states occurred in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, in the People’s Republic of China under Mao Zedong, and in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. The estimates of the number of non-combatants killed by these three regimes alone range from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million. There have also been killings on a smaller scale in North Korea, Vietnam, and some Eastern European and African countries.”

          You think I’m afraid of this question? I’m a member of the Green Party, not a communist. What’s more, I have an ever-lengthening record of opposing violence and of condemning it when it occurs. I’d like to see you, Janos, or any of the gun-fondlers who regularly post around here take anything like a principled stand against violence in the way I have. You’ve got nothing.

          * “Black Flies”, you write. This is diagnostic of real putridity in your soul as well, pequiste. I suggest you get right with the lord while you still can.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2017 at 3:05 am #

            You talk of Cville? Where every time they talked about Heather Heyer, the media played the video of another fat woman sliding down the hood. It wasn’t Heyer, but the media wanted us to think it was, eager to railroad a young man into prison and White Nationalists into universal opprobrium.

            Heyer died of a heart attack. And we never found out the name or condition of the real woman who was badly hit. How low can you people go?

            The Greens are Reds. It’s just another one of your vile tricks, similar to the above. A bait and switch.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 8, 2017 at 11:42 am #

            The power of denial truly is astonishing:

            – A terrorist plows a car directly into a crowd of people. There are dozens of witnesses and multiple pieces of video evidence. Yet, he’s being “railroaded”.
            – Heather Heyer died of the injuries inflicted by the terrorist. But it doesn’t count because those injuries led to the complication of a heart attack.
            – The terrorist hit more than one person with the car; therefore … therefore what? Who can tell, but Heather Heyer was fat so she deserved to be murdered by a terrorist.

            Janos, go found a cannibal tribe somewhere and offer to let them kill you and eat your brain tissue. Feeding the world is clearly the best use for it.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2017 at 3:05 pm #

            Maybe she hurt herself trying to get out of the way of the car. Do you know differently? No contact in other words. If so, the young man, terrified for his life by a screaming mob armed with bats, will do no time at all.

            Any information about the other one, the one who was REALLY hit? Or is she just an unperson since she doesn’t meet your needs or support the narrative?

            And why has the press shut up about this? They know a narrative collapse when they see one, unlike you. There are REASONS you never rose in the Movement, Elrond! Can you not see that with every narrative collapse and discovered Lie, the trust in the Government decreases? Public Trust is the Gold – you don’t abuse it lightly. Thus no one believed the FBI when they came out within hours to say the Las Vegas shooter had no ISIS connections.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2017 at 3:59 pm #


            Leftists like Elrond continue to be vociferous and ferocious in support of this monster.

  36. Buck Stud October 7, 2017 at 2:44 am #

    It sure looks like President Trump wasn’t just talking height smack about “little Rocket Man”. Have a glance at the average penis size of a Korean male!

    But of course, that’s what also makes them so dangerous:


    • stelmosfire October 7, 2017 at 10:07 am #

      Well Buck, some of us bigger guys need to remember that the old adage ” size doesn’t matter” is a bunch of crap promoted by the dingle-dicked crowd. That’s why we see so many F-250’s roaming the American landscape Me I drive an old Tacoma. .”I pity da fool” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FPGJrzzq_I

    • Q. Shtik October 7, 2017 at 11:59 am #

      Are we talkin’ hard or soft?

      • stelmosfire October 7, 2017 at 1:48 pm #

        Hard or soft?
        U talkin’ to me?

        Is this gonna’ be you Q? Like other posters I advise a small revolver for personal protection, simple mechanism and almost foolproof. Although I would go with a .357 which you can use either .357, 38 special, or 38P for a little more horsepower. For a newby. If you get a little training a small semi-auto 380 is a good stopper and super easy to conceal and carry. I know you have the jing so spring for something good and RELIABLE. US made.
        Something like this in .22 will be adequate for self defense. Don’t underestimate the .22

        • thwack October 7, 2017 at 2:04 pm #

          I know some of you think that with a large enough caliber, shot placement doesn’t matter; but a surprising number of trained shooters (police officers) miss from short distances because they are too busy “dumping”

          I suspect some people have a subconscious inability to shoot to kill another person.

          just sayin.

          • elysianfield October 7, 2017 at 7:18 pm #

            “I suspect some people have a subconscious inability to shoot to kill another person.”

            A cultural trait…well documented.

      • capt spaulding October 8, 2017 at 10:15 am #

        I don’t know about you guys, but I have a fiveskin.

    • San Jose October 7, 2017 at 7:13 pm #

      I believe that one of North Korea’s earliest and most successful rockets is called the Nodong. Also, what kind of person names their company Microsoft?

      • stelmosfire October 7, 2017 at 7:40 pm #

        To Efield, I’ve treated/picked-up plenty of G-shot victims in my 34 years on the bonebox. Only a few died on me. I don’t have any qualms about using fire against fire, especially if my family is threatened.Shitheads beware!

  37. FincaInTheMountains October 7, 2017 at 5:23 am #

    Today is a Putin’s Birthday


    Happy birthday, Mr. President!


    How wonderful it is to rule the world!

    • Ol' Scratch October 7, 2017 at 6:56 am #

      Mr Putin is wise enough to know that no one “rules the world” for long, and that a wise man would never accept the job. He is, however, largely by default, leading the world these days, but that’s another matter altogether. He’s a good man, the kind the west used to occasionally produce before the global capitalists infiltrated everything. Ol’ Scratch has little to no influence over him whatsoever.

      • FincaInTheMountains October 7, 2017 at 10:55 am #

        The commander-in-chief of the Three-Color Horde, Vlad Putin, is trying all his might to increase Mordor’s influence on other countries, returning to the heydays of Stalin’s Empire of Evil.

        Using hybrid wars and Russian hackers, a dictator without declaring war intervenes in the internal affairs of the free world. Now it’s time for Spain, in which Putin’s magician Churov holds a referendum in Catalonia.

        The results were astounding – forty-seven percent supported Catalonia’s independence, two percent for Spain and fifty-one percent for United Russia.

        Separatists already have T-90 tanks (supposedly kept by players at the Camp Nou) and a Russian military uniform now can be bought at any Eurobowl Barcelona sports shop. The Spanish government tried to disrupt the Russia-ist referendum, using all the power and strength of the police methods allowed in democratic countries.

        But the separatists of free Catalonia were able to carry out this illegal will of the people.

        • sophia October 7, 2017 at 8:40 pm #

          I surely did not understand that.

          • Elrond Hubbard October 8, 2017 at 11:46 am #

            For the most part, Finc’s posts are well worth ignoring. That has been my policy for some time now, at any rate.

          • FincaInTheMountains October 8, 2017 at 6:23 pm #

            Sarcasm off.

  38. volodya October 7, 2017 at 10:03 am #

    The funniest thing I’ve heard in a long, long, long time: America did not elect this man, the electoral college did…

    Better go tell Mueller before he wastes any more time.

  39. volodya October 7, 2017 at 10:57 am #

    Outsider, Tusconspur, Benr,

    If Trump finishes this term in office and decides to run again, the next go-round is going to sound a lot like the last.

    Progressives will get up on their high horse, campus snowflakery will be subjecting campuses to totalitarian repression, Antifa will be wearing uniforms and marching with familiar looking banners, ones that Janos would recognize for sure, main-stream media pundits will furrow their brows and shake their jowls and harrumph.

    Everyone will say that his erratic behavior while in office, his lack of legislative achievement, his clear unsuitability for the Presidency will be his un-doing. Progressives, women, Jorge Ramos, campus Brownshirts and Antifa Fascists will all say that Trump is not a moral man, that everyone knows this, that Trump cannot rule, that Trump must not rule.

    And legislative tribunals and law-enforcement investigations and special prosecutors will be busily at work to stymie Trump.

    And, everyone, EVERYONE – pundits, political pros, academics, activists – will tell us that Trump’s path to 270 will be via tiny hand-holds and toe-holds on a vertical electoral rock-face and that the chances of him not going splat are slim to none.

    What are the odds that Hillary gets the Democratic nomination? What are the odds that she runs as an independent?

    What are the odds that Trump gets the nomination? What are the odds he makes it over 270 by a comfortable margin?

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    • tucsonspur October 7, 2017 at 4:22 pm #

      Yeah, a vertical electoral rock-face like the crumbling El Capitan.

      He sure does seem unsuitable at times. I think that he really did believe, does believe, in MAGA, not only as a slogan. But who at this point, considering domestic and global economies, domestic and global politics, not to mention cultural and racial issues, could even get close?

      His big stick on the border, immigration, law enforcement, and sanctuary cities has been whittled to a toothpick.

      Health care has been a disaster, and now he’s even reaching out to the Dems. Who knows WTF his tax plan will do to the country.

      Hillary may want it so bad that she’ll literally die trying.

    • benr October 10, 2017 at 9:18 pm #

      How does someone do anything when both parties and the mainstream press hate you?
      Granted some of Trumps problems are his huge ego and thin skin and the fact he can’t shake his unreality t.v. persona but really no one can overcome the odds being put against him.
      Both parties and the press would rather we the people get nuked then allow Trump to succeed at anything even things that actually move America forward in a positive direction.

  40. volodya October 7, 2017 at 11:19 am #

    Sean Coleman, not many forecast this 25 years ago. The demolition of wide areas of western economies wasn’t as advanced as it is now, nationalists were seen as kooks and racists. Not many people heeded the warnings of Ross Perot and Pat Buchanan. These guys were seen as unenlightened and the people that agreed with them were derided as cringing and fearful, unaccustomed to new cultures and new ideas and unwilling to change.

    Well, as Pat said not so long ago with respect to this long bout of “globalization”, the returns are in. As a great many people have been pointing out, it’s been the ruin of a large multitude of the citizenry. Much as BBC glitterati sneer at malcontents as ignorant and uneducated xenophobes-Islamophobes-homophobes, the objects of their contempt aren’t having it. If Brexit wasn’t easily foreseeable 25 years ago, it should have been as the toll on Britain’s wage earners mounted. You can’t screw half the population and expect their support.

    “Useful idiots” to the Davos set would be an apt description for the people that Farage was talking to. But these useful idiots would take great offense at this characterization.

    • MrTibbs October 7, 2017 at 12:44 pm #

      ……of obstructing spontaneous cooperation in the exercise of Freewill is made by those with no choice.


    • Sean Coleman October 7, 2017 at 3:17 pm #

      The president of the ‘French Trump Committee’ argues that the president is a prisoner in the White House, including his own family. (When he ordered the Syrian bomb attack after the dodgy poison gas episode I read at the time that his daughter had put pressure on him and this seemed very plausible. This man says the same thing happened after Charlotteville.) He argues that Trump is under such continuous pressure, including regular death threats, that others would have been driven to suicide. This is what I meant by an extraordinary situation that nobody would have foreseen.


      I know there are people who don’t believe anything they hear or read in the media, or rather who say they don’t. What do you think the numbers are? I think they are very low, probably extremely low, but rising quickly. Their advantage is that they can see through the illusion, or at least that part of the illusion they are looking at. What they are up against is that they probably won’t recognize how deep and wide the fantasy goes and that they are dependent on media reportage to put their own explanations together. (I am just thinking out loud here.) It may be like trying to do long division in the middle of a very loud and disorderly disco.

      I don’t imagine many would care to make that attempt. As I mentioned once before here they might just drop one mass delusion for another.

  41. MrTibbs October 7, 2017 at 1:54 pm #

    Democide is the murder of any person or people by their government, including genocide, politicide and mass murder. Democide is not necessarily the elimination of entire cultural groups but rather groups within the country that the government feels need to be eradicated for political reasons and due to claimed future threats.

    Whatever shall we do??
    1. Obey God’s Commandments, including the 11th to love one another.
    2. Have a good story to tell.
    3. Take someone along and enjoy the ride.
    4. Ask God for help.
    5. Ask not for whom the bell tolls.

    Don’t believe in a Creator??
    …..then enjoy existence until the end.

    Sent From the New Republic.

    • Q. Shtik October 7, 2017 at 2:06 pm #

      Democide is the murder of any person or people by their government – Tibbs


      Oh, I figured it was the murder of all democrats.

  42. FincaInTheMountains October 7, 2017 at 3:46 pm #


    The Katechon (“that which withholds, “the one who withholds”) is a biblical concept which has subsequently developed into a notion of political philosophy.

    The term is found in 2 Thessalonians 2:6-7 in an eschatological context: Christians must not behave as if the Day of the Lord would happen tomorrow, since the Son of Perdition (the Antichrist) must be revealed before.

    I know, that particular Christian concept goes totally perpendicular to the main ideas of this particular forum.

    St. Paul then adds that the revelation of the Antichrist is conditional upon the removal of something/someone that restrains him and prevents him from being fully manifested.

    Thessalonians 2:6-7
    For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. But the one who restrains is to do so only for the present, until he is removed from the scene.

    To begin with, there are things Earthly and therefore subject to change (for example, the attitude to the social structure of society), but there are things Heavenly and therefore have a reality that does not depend on the political conjuncture (for example, the essence of this society).

    In particular, there is a tricolor cloth depicting the flag, and there is something that it symbolizes, that is, the same as in 1941-1945, symbolized the Red Flag with Sickle and Hammer which also was a Victory Flag. And for Russia this essence is called Katechon , as in something/someone that restrains him, or “Moscow – The Third Rome”.

    The most important question for the Russian Orthodox Church from my point of view is the need to comprehend from the Orthodox point of view the very obvious fact that the USSR, despite its atheism during the Second World War, continued to perform the role of the biblical Katechon, and that particular role led to the fact that in 1943 the USSR renounced the state atheism and dissolved the Comintern (Communist International).

  43. tucsonspur October 7, 2017 at 4:47 pm #

    Reminds me of some old subway graffiti.

    “Jesus Christ is the only thing standing between you and perdition”.

    Written below:

    “Tell him to move”.

    On the buses, wonderful, practical reminders like, “ring or ride, you decide”.

    • FincaInTheMountains October 7, 2017 at 7:42 pm #

      Actually, Jesus Christ is not a Katechon – Roman Empire was.

      • messianicdruid October 8, 2017 at 11:12 am #

        Quench not the Spirit.

  44. tucsonspur October 7, 2017 at 5:40 pm #

    Linda Sanchez, the Dem from you guessed it, California, wants to be part of it, part of the transition, part of the change incubating in our calamitous culture. Yes, she wants to carry the lance and levitate the Left:


    Words from the great Dylan are apropos:

    Come gather ’round people
    Wherever you roam
    And admit that the waters
    Around you have grown
    And accept it that soon
    You’ll be drenched to the bone.
    If your time to you
    Is worth savin’
    Then you better start swimmin’
    Or you’ll sink like a stone
    For the times they are a-changin’.

    Come senators, congressmen
    Please heed the call
    Don’t stand in the doorway
    Don’t block up the hall
    For he that gets hurt
    Will be he who has stalled
    There’s a battle outside
    And it is ragin’.
    It’ll soon shake your windows
    And rattle your walls
    For the times they are a-changin’.

    Come mothers and fathers
    Throughout the land
    And don’t criticize
    What you can’t understand
    Your sons and your daughters
    Are beyond your command
    Your old road is
    Rapidly agin’.
    Please get out of the new one
    If you can’t lend your hand
    For the times they are a-changin’.

    I say it again,the great Bob Dylan.

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  45. FincaInTheMountains October 7, 2017 at 6:41 pm #

    As might be expected, the Koreans want the unification of their country, but not as a result of a victory of one side over another, but as a result of convergence – there was such a theory in the 80s about the rapprochement of the two systems, socialist and capitalist, by combining the best traits of both.

    Moreover, they see in their country the last real chance of humanity for convergence. In the aftermath, this idea turned out to be an ideological diversion and a training school for the personnel of the upcoming collapse of the USSR, and convergence occurred by combining the worst, not the best, traits of both systems.

    But as it turned out, the idea has not died, and even now is involved in the prevention of nuclear conflict. Let’s hope that Koreans will be smarter than the Soviets, and the tragic experience of the USSR would be taken into account.

    Why does Russia constantly have to experience all the most dangerous ideas, and in the most idiotic form?

    North Korea is also interesting from the point of view that when short-cut young men in Zelenograd were scrapping French (very advanced and expensive) equipment for processing ultra-pure silicon and germanium, the most valuable machines were moved to North Korea from Moscow’s Kurchatov Institute, so a recent announcement by North Korean scientists on the implementation of a self-sustaining thermonuclear reaction caused no irony from my side.

  46. thwack October 7, 2017 at 7:37 pm #

    Has Janos mentioned anything about the latest edition of National Geographic?


    • FincaInTheMountains October 7, 2017 at 7:45 pm #

      Don’t get him started…

      • thwack October 7, 2017 at 8:26 pm #

        Hold on here…

        Janos is part of the “economy” and I count on him to alert me to things I may have missed.

        You know how scientist sometimes freak out because some obscure crustaceun is dying from “pink claw disease…?” and you think its no big deal…?

        Indeed, he may seem like a kooky freak; but during slavery, slaves who ran away were considered “kooky freaks” too?

        So in a way, I rely on Janos as a type of insurance policy; just in case i get

        hoodwinked, flimm flammed, and bamboozled…

        Just sayin

        • Janos Skorenzy October 7, 2017 at 8:58 pm #

          Thank you, Mr Savage, but you’d never make it as a Crisis Actor so don’t bother applying. You have the right to remain silent (as a corpse) but you don’t have the ability. You’d get up while the cameras were still rolling and start talking about why so few Blacks were killed and how it’s discrimination and shit. And why so few real Blacks are hired to play Othello and why the few that do don’t get to fuck Desdemona.

        • pequiste October 7, 2017 at 10:11 pm #

          I always visit this neighbourhood of the CFN for the clever repartee.

    • malthuss October 8, 2017 at 12:27 pm #

      The anti White movement gets bolder all the time.

      What did you think of Rudy Guede and his release? Huh, N@@er?

      The Italian Libs didnt want to admit their ‘experiment’ has deadly consequences.


    • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2017 at 2:05 pm #

      They (and you) are confusing Evolution with mere change or in this case, Devolution. Blondes on Blacks? What comes from this but more mediocre mud colored brats?

      A World without Whites? Do they imagine that will be a World without Hatred? How foolish! But it will certainly be a World with a hole in it, a much less beautiful world. And what will haters like you do without Whites to hate?

      • benr October 10, 2017 at 9:23 pm #

        Hate on each other for lighter or darker skin I saw it in the Navy all the damn time.
        In facft I got out because of the rampant bigots being able to say anything they wanted and never get in trouble for it.
        Hint it was not whitey we got away with nothing!

  47. sophia October 7, 2017 at 8:10 pm #

    In reports about the Las Vegas shooting, I heard that several men covered women with their bodies, at least one of whom was shot.

    While MGTOW is wrong that women can’t love men, we are in the difficult position of needing them to survive, which means that love for its own sake is somehow less available as a priority.

    • thwack October 7, 2017 at 8:29 pm #

      Sophia, can you translate that into black english for me?

      Ive read what you wrote 3 times and I still don’t understand what you are trying to say?

      Are my white brothers having the same problem?

      • sophia October 7, 2017 at 8:38 pm #

        The man was shot while protecting the woman.

        If my husband dies, I die. While that makes me love him more, it also means that if I contemplate losing him I don’t think of heartbreak quite as much as I experience raw fear.

        If I die he will be very sad, lonely, and his life will be less convenient.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 7, 2017 at 8:51 pm #

          Oh now I get it: the existential vulnerability of the traditional woman who is dependent on her husband. Don’t hear this one much anymore, maybe because most women aren’t dependent like this anymore. And of course, Feminists believed or implied that Feminism, by taking away this dependency, would make true love possible. But of course, that didn’t happen. And women don’t throw themselves on men nor are they ever going to do so. Nor wear blue in order to raise money for Prostate Cancer.

          The sexes are different. And the traditional ways of life and behavior were a reflection of that behavior. Take away the need for that behavior, and it ceases – but new values, behavior, and culture being created thereby? Not nearly so much. When the Italian Cruise Ship went up on the rocks and began to sink, it was every PERSON for themselves, with men elbowing women out of the way. True equality. Feminism attained.

          • sophia October 7, 2017 at 9:08 pm #

            It’s true that my situation is old fashioned. But I think all women are dependent, just not on particular men. Thus, they can kid themselves. But women are in my opinion not actually physically able to survive without men. It’s like we don’t really belong on this planet.

            To be sure a species like wolves would not be able to carry on successfully if they lost their males, but that is because of raising the pups being such an effort. Females can hunt. I don’t think that women, unencumbered by children, could survive. Maybe on an ideal tropical island but that’s about it.

          • thwack October 7, 2017 at 9:41 pm #

            Oh now I get it: the existential vulnerability of the traditional woman who is dependent on her husband.


            oh now I get it?

            Janos with the WEAK cock block.

            that train is never late

            Too late faggot?

            I got it:

            (way back up in the corner near the cobwebs and bats…?)

            Just sayin.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2017 at 2:49 am #

            Well of course not! And men can’t survive without women, not just to reproduce, but emotionally either. They would kill each other off. The same species, marrying to become “one flesh”.

            Yet you regret the situation, yearning for some kind of gnostic feminine spirituality. Ah well, there are many paths. Perhaps read Balzac’s Seraphita: the ideal Person, the “Man” of the far future according to Occultism, will be both male and female. But don’t hold your breath. For women who yearn now for a love beyond the needs of Nature and limitations of earthly men, there is the way of the Celibate Sister or again, Shakti Hinduism.

            The false way is the way of marrying the Government and of course, Lesbianism – for women who are hormonally unbalance or very angry at men. Or afraid.

          • elysianfield October 8, 2017 at 10:43 am #

            ” But women are in my opinion not actually physically able to survive without men.”

            Our society is geared to allow the weak to live…and to be protected (relatively) from the strong. The Ghetto culture is a Matriarchal one, primarily anchored by single mothers with children. They survive, but do not do necessarily thrive.

  48. sophia October 7, 2017 at 8:34 pm #

    According to Karen Straughan, in Canada the feminists want to set up a separate tribunal legal system for trying claims of rape, so that the defendant will be at more of a disadvantage and the accuser will have free legal counsel.

    The mind boggles.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2017 at 2:54 am #

      Girl writes what, right? She’s a good ally to the Men’s Rights Movement. You have chosen well.

  49. pequiste October 7, 2017 at 8:57 pm #

    I see where a countryman of Elrond’s, and some other “free speech advocates,” were planning to “light it up” in Times Square, New York City.


    I wonder if they will play the religion card in an effort to get charges dropped and returned to Canada for a nice stretch of “pogey” or some Quebec-style “chomage?” Shall Prime Minister Trudeau get involved and insist on the right to free speech of the oppressed Yzlamik jihadi? We can only hope.

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    • Elrond Hubbard October 8, 2017 at 12:01 pm #

      I looked at the article. The charges look plausible enough on the surface, but the FBI makes a sport of entrapment. They set up sting operations where they find young hotheads online, put them up to plots that are actually the FBI’s idea, not their own, then arrest them. It’s the law enforcement equivalent of fishing with dynamite.

      If they’re guilty, may they not see the light of day for many years.

  50. sophia October 7, 2017 at 9:02 pm #

    “Four days ago in Las Vegas this war went into a hot phase and Trump’s supporters all felt being in the crosshairs of the Deep State killers. And it’s no wonder – everyone understands that the mega terrorist act in Las Vegas was directed not at Trump, but at Trump’s voters”

    I was having the thought that this time perhaps they tired of the slowness of people to understand that these are false flags and made it truly obvious that this was not the work of one man, just so that the mind fuck would really fester, at least subconsciously.

    I’ve also had the sickening thought that a certain woman’s evilness is not in the ordinary league, and that her rage at being scorned will last beyond the grave. Yeah, she will come back as Genghis Khan.

  51. sprawlcapital October 7, 2017 at 9:26 pm #

    I’m posting this down here to improve the chances of someone reading itl

    Sorry for the delay in answering your question about my use of antidepressants (ADs), Outsider.

    No, I have never used ADs.

    My knowledge of the effects of ADs is based, in part, on what a former user has told me, that her brief use of an AD caused “brain fog,” so she stopped using the drug, the name of which she does not recall.

    Then there is a close relative who has been on Paxil, an AD, since about 1998. When she first went on the drug she would start laughing hysterically for no reason. Now ner speech is labored, and she has had health problems, including a liver disorder.

    This liver trouble is a classic story of medical stupidity. The patient was, as I said, on Paxil and was having trouble sleeping. So, her doctor prescribed a second antidepressant, to help her sleep, Her skin soon turned yellow and tests showed liver abnormality. The idiot-doctors claimed not to know what was going on, but when they took her off the second AD, her condition returned to normal. I believe the second AD was Terazodone.

    So, if you must use an AD, don’t rack up19 years of continuous use.

    As for me, the only psychotropic drugs I use are alcohol and caffeine, both in moderation. Forty years or more back, I experimented a few times with marijuana, with mostly bad results.

    • elysianfield October 8, 2017 at 10:47 am #

      Drug use, of any kind, usually has a price to pay…sometimes great, occasionally slight, but always deleterious.

    • stelmosfire October 9, 2017 at 7:04 am #

      Hey Sprawl, I’ve taken Trazadone . The stuff gives you a nasty hangover the next day Iots of guys at the firehouse have sleep problems. Odd hours, 0-to -100 Mph syndrome, hearing gongs in there sleep, etc,etc. I’ve been out of there for 5 years and I am still up in the dark.Ambien works good but you are wide awake 5 hours later reading a book. I get ya about Des Moine, I drove through there at rush hour 2 days before the eclipse. 10 lanes of shit, stop and go!

  52. sophia October 7, 2017 at 9:31 pm #

    “Has Trump been accused of grabbing any actual P, or was it just big talk in a private conversation — braggadocio — on his part? ”

    It barely even qualifies as braggadocio. It was taken out of context. And it made them mad for two reasons. One, it was Trump, and two, it was a truth about women.

    Mind you, Trump was very good looking as a young man and so far as I know, was always rich. I doubt very much he had much difficulty getting women. However, being exposed to the world of the famous entertainer was a surprise even for him. After he got his TV show, he marveled that when you’re famous (and I’m sure that plenty of rock stars and such can vouch for this), you can do anything to women – you can even grab them by the pussy and they don’t care!

    Now, mind you, he was not saying he walked down the streets grabbing women. He no doubt meant that on the set or at the parties where he was fawned over, the barriers to sexual access were just not there.

    He was expressing SURPRISE.

    • tucsonspur October 8, 2017 at 2:19 am #

      Of course. Younger men, older men, it doesn’t matter much. If you’ve got the threads, the pussy wagon, a fat roll of Benjamins and are half way decent looking, you’ll get the attention.

      Trump and his equivalents are in another league. He’d be showered with gold whenever he wanted.

      But what does this say about women? Famous sports figures have had sex with hundreds, even thousands of women over the years. Potent aphrodisiacs, money and fame.

      How many women did Harvey Weinstein actually screw? A lot, I’d bet.

      Men want it, and too many women will give it all too easily when they catch that oh so sexy scent of a rich, alpha male.

      Bill Cosby for some reason didn’t have the knack. Maybe they just didn’t want to fuck black.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2017 at 2:57 am #

        No, I bet old Bill just liked it sleazy because he was so kinked out. Both Bills that is.

      • elysianfield October 8, 2017 at 10:52 am #

        “and are half way decent looking”

        Dennis Rodman?

        I am not sure even appearing vaguely human is a qualifier if you have the other attributes….

  53. ozone October 8, 2017 at 1:20 am #

    Ol’Scratch, you’re doin’ a heckuva job, [Brownie], but it’s a good thing no one appears to be listening. It should make vacuuming up a few hundred million ‘Murkin souls a cakewalk on a superbly maintained dance floor. …How shortly? Let’s leave that to the variable speed of degradation and putrescence; you would know its curve better than any.
    Sweet Schadenfreude, inattention, ignorance and drooling dependence are thine very bestest and fastest of friends!

  54. FincaInTheMountains October 8, 2017 at 5:43 am #

    McCarthyism is back in full swing in Hollywood

    James Woods retires from acting after saying he’s blacklisted because he’s conservative:


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  55. FincaInTheMountains October 8, 2017 at 8:12 am #

    Crunch of the French bread and the religion of Judas

    A new round of civil war in Russia is no longer stoppable, more than that, it is already on its way, and the French bread lovers started it, declaring the collapse of the USSR as their victory in the Civil War.

    In fact, the Soviet Union disintegrated as a result of betrayal and if they want to pronounce another betrayal as their victory, then Vlasov’s rag into their hands and Vlasov is their hero.


    They became traitors in 1953, killing the USSR for the first time, in 1939-1944 became the cause of colossal losses in the first years of the war. Before that, they had become traitors in 1917, destroying the Empire and forcing the Tsar to abdicate, and in preparation, selling rumors about him and his family, compared to which Matilda’s film simply is praise to the royal family.


    They betray the history of Russia every day writing off all the misfortunes of the 20th century on the Bolsheviks and in every way covering up the February revolution, which practically destroyed historical Russia, just as Gorbachev nearly destroyed it in the 80s.

    And the Bolsheviks reanimated it with the Brest Peace, just as it was reanimated by Yeltsin in 1991 by the Belavezha Accords.

    And it’s not about socialism, but about communism – a word that in the Western context comes from the Latin name of the Christian communion.

    And now Putin’s Russia, trying to restore Orthodox Russia, is building not a kind of capitalism but a kind of communism, since capitalism is not only a socioeconomic formation, it is also a religion of betrayal, the religion of Judas, who, like Peter betrayed Christ, but Peter repented of his betrayal and became a saint, and Judas preferred to hang himself on an aspen, just not to admit his guilt, his betrayal, and his sin.

    And on the liberals, Putin relies or rather relied on temporarily, while the nuclear-missile parity was restored. It’s just during this very difficult period that it turned out that liberals steal less than Orthodox believers – remember the Orthodox banker Pugachev and a couple of other examples that everyone knows.


    Therefore, the synthesis of Orthodoxy and the social achievements of the USSR is the paramount task of state building, and the purging of the Russian Orthodox Church from the spiritual Vlasovites is the paramount task of the Orthodox People of Russia.

    • sophia October 8, 2017 at 3:08 pm #


      Who are these unnamed betrayers?
      As for Putin, I find him very likeable when I watch his videos answering questions.
      But Plato said, “It is impossible for an extremely rich man to be extremely good.”

      • FincaInTheMountains October 8, 2017 at 6:02 pm #

        French bread lovers?

        People who despise all Russian and bow before all Western.

        As for Putin being “rich” – that concept simply does not apply to the Russian Czar.

        • sophia October 8, 2017 at 6:28 pm #

          Hmm, wasn’t the wealth of Russia grabbed by oligarchs? Wasn’t he one of them even if you now refer to him as czar? How does it make sense for an economy the size of Italy’s to have the most millionaires of any city (Moscow)?

          I’m agreeing with you about the French bread lovers.

  56. sophia October 8, 2017 at 12:29 pm #


    I wasn’t talking about the basic facts that the sexes cannot reproduce without the other. I was pointing out that it seems women can’t really make it, physically, without men.

    “Yet you regret the situation, yearning for some kind of gnostic feminine spirituality.”

    Perhaps It is more that I am a bit astonished and taken aback, but as to yearning for gnostic feminine spirituality, I don’t even know what you are talking about, and I am one who objected to JHK’s weird use of that word. The word gnostic in general refers to pagan esoteric knowledge and mysticism, something I respect.


    Our society is geared to allow the weak to live…and to be protected (relatively) from the strong. The Ghetto culture is a Matriarchal one, primarily anchored by single mothers with children. They survive, but do not do necessarily thrive.”

    Not sure of your point.

    Did you, too, think that I was promoting some kind of matriarchy? I was merely stating facts. Refuting that awful bumper sticker I used to see that said a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. The denigration of the male is reaching scary proportions.

    • elysianfield October 8, 2017 at 12:39 pm #

      My point was the women can, in civil society, indeed survive without men, but usually not well.

      • sophia October 8, 2017 at 3:12 pm #

        Oh, Elysian, that is simply a delusion. Like I said, they don’t rely on particular men – husbands and fathers – but their lives are impossible without the labor of men manning the oil rigs, jackhammering their roads, inventing their electricity, deep sea fishing, and the hired guns who enforce the collection of taxes to send them their welfare checks, not to mention that they do call the police sometimes.

        I’m talking about whether women could get enough to eat and stay warm on this planet without the help of ANY men.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2017 at 1:59 pm #

      You’re getting testy – a sure sign my words have stuck home. Gnostic equals Pagan? Sure, just like Masonry! In fact, the Gnostics were groups of people disillusioned with Christianity and Judaism, most Jews. Thus since these had supposedly failed them and failed the world, they sought an inner path away from the fallen world and the Society that embraced the false religion of Christianity and Judaism. Simply put, the Pagan embrace of Green Spirituality is not be found here. At all. They believed the World was evil or an illusion. The former tended towards extreme asceticism and the latter towards orgies – since it didn’t matter since there was no matter, at least none that mattered in the matter of human spirituality. And that was and is a huge illusion, is it not?

      You’re bitter that men are much stronger than women. You desire what we have and are. You are growing: as the Light is shined into the depths of the well, countless creatures will crawl out. This is one of yours, but you share it with countless women. Hatred of the Feminine and envy of the Masculine IS Feminism, so called/miscalled.

      Be grateful: many women can’t even admit the Fact of male strength and feminine weakness. Instead they just blindly hate. You are too good for that.

      • sophia October 8, 2017 at 3:20 pm #


        No, your words didn’t hit home because I don’t quite know what you meant by them, as I said. You’re also reading a lot of envy into what I said, when I’m merely stating facts. My motive is that I find our society delusional and some reality is in order. A strong draught.

        Your ideas about gnosticism are partly Christian slander. Recall that the victors write the history. Try reading The Jesus Mysteries and its sequel. Or Not In His Image. Looks like the Christian religion is almost entirely ancient paganism rehashed from much older stuff. The gnostic branches of Christianity existed, but were not the only ones, and their ideas predated Christianity, which is why they were dismayed by the Christian literalists.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2017 at 5:28 pm #

          Some Gnosticism is in line with the Great Tradition and some of it is not. Christianity is in line with it, at least as a Devotional Path. I admit the Wisdom Teachings, the Teachings that enable one to see the Truth in other religions, were always weak in the West once the Abrahamic religions took over.

          Your desire to be as strong as a Man is Gnostic in the lower sense, a desire to surmount Nature without fulfilling and transcending It in a lawful way.

          • sophia October 8, 2017 at 6:41 pm #

            I’d like to know more about your take on the Great Tradition. The book I recommended, The Jesus Mysteries, is about 1/4 references. If they did not present so many references, I would find what they present almost hard to believe. That is, the extent to which the Christian story is a rehash of pagan mystery rites and symbolic myths.

            Why do you insist I want to be as strong as a man. I never said that. Rather I am reacting to the endless litany by clueless females who are either young and brainwashed or irrational and willfully blind, to acknowledge sex differences. I was also reacting to the MGTOW idea that women don’t love men. It isn’t true, but women’s need for men’s resources does muddy the waters a lot.

  57. elysianfield October 8, 2017 at 12:50 pm #

    Well ladies and Germs;

    Good News! California has passed SB 219, and Governor Brown has signed it into law…it’s about goddamn time.

    The law makes it a misdemeanor to refuse to address a senior citizen in a rest home with his/her/its pronoun of choice.

    It interests me, however, to consider that LGBT/Q lives might be of shorter duration than those of straight citizens, considering their at-risk lifestyles…how many actually make it into rest homes?

    The law also allows rest home denizens of all genders to use whatever bathroom facilities that they desire. Of course, those with Alzheimer’s have been doing this for years….

    This warm and fuzzy legislation makes me proud to be an American…and ex-pat Californian.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2017 at 5:35 pm #

      Brown has made California into a Sanctuary State. And now he has made knowingly giving others HIV just a misdemeanor. Expect many to now start donating their blood. Being denied that “right” enraged them. Why shouldn’t they be able to give blood and give others HIV? Why shouldn’t everyone suffer like them!


      Brown is obviously part of Illuminati, a Satanist eager to equal or outdo Ted Kennedy and Barack Obama as the man who has done the most to destroy America.

    • sophia October 8, 2017 at 6:44 pm #

      It’s a free speech issue, so shouldn’t stand up to legal challenge. No one has the right to compel speech. I also find it crazy that my free speech is being curtailed over such a ridiculosity as being forced to deny reality as I see it. I find that calling someone with a penis “she” is simply untrue. I am legally required to confirm something publicly that I consider false.

  58. thwack October 8, 2017 at 1:01 pm #

    Attention whore of the month:


    Its quite possible this cunt is setting up unsuspecting men by asking them to take a selfie with her?

    After all, she is a model and the whole purpose of being a model is to get people to look at you.

    Just sayin

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    • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2017 at 2:58 pm #

      Check out the article below. They Injuns seemed to single out the Black soldier for special punishment. Maybe they thought he was a buffalo a la “How to serve Man”!

      Relying on Bob Marley for one’s World View may not be a good idea, friendo or should I say fiendo?

      • thwack October 8, 2017 at 5:29 pm #

        They Injuns seemed to single out the Black soldier for special punishment.


        they also singled us out for mad respect by comparing us to the buffalo; i.e “Buffalo Soldiers”

        It must have been interesting for them to see a person as dark and as wooly headed as the buffalo?

        And with all that bass in their voice…?

        Just sayin

        • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2017 at 5:37 pm #

          Well that was my point: maybe that was just one Sioux guy one time and it got made into a meme and then a lyric. Not representative of the Northern Plains Indians in other words. The Comanche of Texas were said to loathe Blacks on sight.

          • sophia October 8, 2017 at 6:55 pm #

            But runaway slaves often joined tribes, and indeed a lot of tribes have obvious black mixes.

  59. Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2017 at 2:48 pm #

    Friends, it looks like we were sold a bill of goods about the Indians. They weren’t noble savages, but just savages.

    Scalp Dance: Indian Warfare on the High Plains, 1865-1879, Thomas Goodrich, Stackpole Books, 1997, $32.95, 340 pp.

    The American Indian has always had champions among whites. Their voices have generally been loudest in areas furthest removed from Indians in their natural state — perhaps not surprisingly since traditional Indian life involved almost perpetual warfare. Thus, as America’s political frontiers moved West, Easterners came to see Indians not as, in George Washington’s words, “beasts of prey” with an insatiable appetite for bloodshed, but as victims of the white man’s greed and brutality. With the disappearance of the frontier all Americans could take this view, and in the last 30 years book after book has promoted guilt over the fate of the Indian and regretted our nation’s very existence.

    Scalp Dance by Thomas Goodrich

    Thomas Goodrich has boldly attempted to redress this imbalance with Scalp Dance, a historical narrative largely drawn from first-hand accounts by soldiers and settlers who faced the Indian menace on the Great Plains. For Americans reared on tales of Wounded Knee and Sand Creek, a better understanding of Indian warfare casts these famous massacres in an entirely different light.

    Hereditary Enemies

    Col. William Collins commanded men who faced the Comanche, Kiowa, Arapaho, Cheyenne and Sioux. Of these tribes, he wrote: “War with somebody . . . is the natural state of an Indian people. Every tribe has some hereditary enemies with whom it is always at war . . . It is by war that they obtain wealth, position and influence with the tribe.”

    What modern accounts of the “noble” Indian warrior commonly leave out is his manner of making war, and it is the eye-witness and contemporary records that both enrich Mr. Goodrich’s book and make it sometimes painful to read. Military historian John Keegan has written that “there is a cruelty in the warfare of some pre-Columbian peoples of North and Central America that has no parallel elsewhere in the world,” but it would seem that this barbarity continued well into the 19th century.

    Col. Henry Carrington wrote: “The great real fact is, that these Indians take alive when possible, and slowly torture.” Enemy dead who could not be tortured were horribly mutilated. This is how Col. Carrington describes the battlefield where, on December 21, 1866, 80 American troops were annihilated by a combined force of Sioux and Cheyenne under Chief Red Cloud:

    Eyes torn out and laid on the rocks; noses cut off; ears cut off; chins hewn off; teeth chopped out; . . . brains taken out and placed on rocks with other members of the body; entrails taken out and exposed; hands cut off; feet cut off; arms taken out from sockets; private parts severed and indecently placed on the person; . . . skulls severed in every form, from chin to crown; muscles of calves, thighs, stomach, breast, back, arms and cheek taken out. Punctures upon every sensitive part of the body, even to the soles of the feet and palms of the hand. All this only approximates the whole truth.

    A few of the soldiers had managed to kill themselves before being captured. Many — probably most — were taken alive and tortured to death. This was the potential fate of every soldier on the Plains, and it is hardly surprising that it was standard practice to “save the last bullet for yourself.”

    The aftermath of the Little Bighorn massacre was entirely typical. Private Jacob Adams wrote:

    The men . . . were . . . scalped and horribly mutilated. Some . . . were decapitated, while many bodies were lacking feet . . . As I walked over the field I saw many unfortunate dead who had been propped into a sitting position and used as targets by bowmen who had proceeded to stick them full of steel-headed arrows . . . Some bodies were set up on their knees and elbows and their hind parts had been shot full of arrows.

    Most of the bodies were naked, and many had been elaborately savaged. Isaiah Dorman, an interpreter, and the only black in Custer’s party, was treated with particular contempt. A witness wrote:

    Isaiah lay with his breast full of arrows and an iron picket pin thrust through his testicles into the ground, pinning him down . . . Dorman’s penis was cut off and stuffed in his mouth, which was regarded among the Indians as the deepest insult possible . . . His body had been ripped open, and a coffee pot and cup which he carried with him were filled with his blood. What devilish purpose the Indians had in catching his blood I do not know.

    Major Marcus Reno, who had ridden with Custer, wrote of a scene he found in the Indian village near the battleground:

    One ghastly find was near the center of the field where three teepee poles were standing upright in the ground in the form of a triangle. On top of each were inverted camp kettles, while below them on the grass were the heads of three men . . . The three heads were placed within the triangle, facing each other in a horrible sightless stare.

    Whites who observed Indians at their grisly work described them as expert butchers of human meat. A drummer named James Lockwood wrote of the deaths of two soldiers outside Julesburg, Colorado: “In less time than it takes to read this, they were stripped of their clothing, mutilated in a manner which would emasculate them, if alive, and their scalps torn from their heads.”

    Far more gratifying than mutilating the dead was torturing the living. This was the ultimate aim of Indian warfare and was considered a religious act. Col. Richard Dodge left this by no means exceptional account of the fate of one captive:

    He was stripped of his clothing, laid on his back on the ground and his arms and legs, stretched to the utmost, were fastened by thongs to pins driven into the ground. In this state he was not only helpless, but almost motionless. All this time the Indians pleasantly talked to him. It was all a kind of joke. Then a small fire was built near one of his feet. When that was so cooked as to have little sensation, another fire was built near the other foot; then the legs and arms and body of the whole person was crisped. Finally a small fire was built on the naked breast and kept up until life was extinct.

    It is worth noting that Indians did not single out whites for cruelty; they treated them just as they did other Indians. Mr. Goodrich quotes a Crow chief explaining to General George Crook his hatred for the Sioux:

    They hunt upon our mountains. They fish in our streams. They have stolen our horses. They have murdered our squaws, our children . . . We want back our lands. We want their women for our slaves, to work for us as our women have had to work for them. We want their horses for our young men, and their mules for our squaws. The Sioux have trampled upon our hearts. We shall spit upon their scalps.

    As this passage indicates, Indians did not restrict their slaughter to combatants; many white homesteaders were killed without regard to sex or age. Capt. Henry Palmer left this terrible account of the aftermath of a raid:

    We found the bodies of three little children who had been taken by the heels by the Indians and swung around against the log cabin, beating their heads to a jelly. Found the hired girl some fifteen rods from the ranch staked out on the prairie, tied by her hands and feet, naked, body full of arrows and horribly mangled.

    Mr. Goodrich devotes an entire chapter to women’s narratives of captivity. Its title is “A Fate Worse Than Death,” and he does not use this antique expression ironically. A captive in an Indian camp was fair game for any kind of degradation:

    She was led from her tent and every remnant of clothing torn from her body. A child that she was holding to her breast was wrenched from her arms and she was knocked to the ground. In this nude condition the demons gathered round her and while some held her down by standing on her wrists and their claws clutched in her hair, others outraged her person. Not less than thirty repeated the horrible deed.

    Of two white women rescued by the 7th Cavalry in 1869 it was recorded: “At first they had been sold back and forth among the bucks for fifteen ponies each, but their last owners had only paid two.” One victim “appeared to be 50 years old, although she was less than 25.” She had not only been repeatedly raped but had received constant beatings from jealous squaws.

    Indians delighted in trophy-taking, and prized some trophies over others. Catherine German wrote of the death of her sister:

    Some time passed while the Indians were parleying; they seemed to make a choice between Joanna and myself . . . The Indians removed our bonnets to see if we had long hair . . . My hair was short . . . Joanna was sitting on a box that had been taken from our wagon . . . We heard the report of a rifle and when we looked again, our beloved sister, Joanna, was dead. The Indians then scalped their long-haired victim . . . This all happened within a very short time, and before any of us could realize it, our once happy family life was forever ended.

    Contemporary accounts show that the lot of an Indian woman was not much better than that of a white captive. Lieutenant James Steele wrote: “She is beaten, abused, reviled, driven like any other beast of burden . . . She is bought and sold; wife, mother, and pack animal, joined in one hideous and hopeless whole.”

    War correspondent DeBenneville Keim reported: “The relations between the sexes is the same in nearly all cases — that is, they [the women] are the servants or slaves . . . All labor performed in an Indian village fall[s] to the lot of the women.”

    Elizabeth Burt, an army officer’s wife, recorded her impressions of domestic life among Indians:

    I saw one of them [a chief] walking in front of a squaw, whose back was bent under a heavy sack of something, probably flour, while he, with his tall body wrapped in a gayly colored blanket, carried nothing but a stick. We stopped to watch them. Did he offer to help her carry the load? Not he, indeed; but on the contrary would use the stick to poke her in the back, to urge her on when . . . he found her falling back with her heavy load. The brute!

    Mrs. Burt believed she was allowed to walk about in Indian camps because “women are such inferior creatures in the estimation of an Indian that . . . I engrossed little of their attention.”

    Cheyenne Autumn

    Mr. Goodrich concludes his book with an account of the attempt by Chief Dull Knife’s Cheyenne to escape from their Kansas reservation and return to their traditional hunting grounds. Historians usually treat this as an epic of aboriginal bravery against all odds. It inspired the adulatory film Cheyenne Autumn. Mr. Goodrich gives all due credit to the Cheyenne as warriors, but he presents the breakout as what it was: a killing spree. Dull Knife’s braves launched a reign of terror over Kansas from which no white American — man, woman, soldier, or civilian — was safe.

    Despite such frank accounts of Indian behavior, Mr. Goodrich’s book is by no means uncritical of whites, whose atrocities he also chronicles. Whites who lived in closest contact with Indians were those who hated them most, and some repaid barbarity in the same coin. A settler named George Porter, who had seen his entire family murdered (and all its female members raped beforehand), went on a one-man vendetta in which he is reported to have killed 108 Indians.

    Men like Porter occasionally fought in uniform as volunteer soldiers. Mr. Goodrich actually begins his book with what is generally regarded as the worst case of white brutality in the Indian Wars: the attack on the camp at Sand Creek, Colorado. Here, in the winter of 1864, Col. John Chivington led the Union volunteers of the 3rd Colorado Cavalry against the Cheyenne and Arapaho of Chief Black Kettle. These Indians had been granted a voucher of safety by a regular army officer, and Chivington caught them completely unprepared. His men killed women and children as well as men.

    Unlike other historians, Mr. Goodrich puts this massacre in context. Chivington’s volunteers knew that during the summer white civilians in the area — men, women, and children — had been slaughtered by Indians. Some of the volunteers were probably related to the victims, and their battle cry was “Remember the murdered women and children!” Regular troops who conducted the bulk of the Indian campaigns were generally far less brutal than Chivington’s men because they had a less personal stake in the fighting.

    Morale Problems

    This said, the army that fought the Indians was not America’s finest. During the Civil War over two million men served in the federal armies, and in May, 1865, one million men were wearing Union blue. But by the next year this force had shrunk to a peace-time strength of 55,000 men, 20,000 of whom were occupying the South. It was a meager force that guarded American lives and property as settlers and railroads moved west.

    The post-Civil War army also suffered from severe morale problems. The officer corps had been purged of its Southern patrician bedrock, and recruits were often beggars and recent immigrants. Many soldiers tried to survive their “hitch” by avoiding battle. Desertion was an almost debilitating problem, and sometimes it was only the cruelty of the enemy that inspired great efforts from the men. One officer from Gen. Patrick Connor’s 1865 campaign recalled:

    About ten days before, the Indians had captured one of our men, and had tortured him and mangled his body in a shocking manner. Our boys swore that if they ever got hold of an Indian they would cut him all to pieces, and they did.

    Given the kind of enemy they proved to be, it is surprising there were not more massacres of Indians.

    Mr. Goodrich’s book captures the insoluble essence of the problem. No matter how militarily impressive, the traditional Indian way of life was incompatible with civilization. It was a way of life that held plunder and killing as the highest virtues. Its passing should elicit few tears.

    A poor Kansas farmer named John Fergusson expressed in his homely way the determination that finally drove the Indian from the prairies:

    I have been looking for the redskined Deavels in on us every day for the last month. they have been in and killed settelars twenty miles north of me and carried off gerls prisoners. the people here is living in constant dread of being attacted by them every day. the settelars cant verry well leave. they have reasded good fare crops of wheat and corn . . . and the most of them thinks as I do that we may as well stay here with what we have got and run the risk of being skalped as leave it. as for me I have lost over a thousand Dolars runing from Indians over the last five years and I am going to stand by what I have got now to the last minut.

    It is the perspective of the people who built the United States that has been withheld from us by the purveyors of popular culture. Scalp Dance reminds us of the nobility of America’s settlers and of our debt to their memory.

    • thwack October 8, 2017 at 3:45 pm #

      At least they know which bathroom to use?

      Just sayin

  60. tucsonspur October 8, 2017 at 4:10 pm #

    All too often it’s a race to the bottom of the depravity barrel. Much of the historical record was created by whites, while white atrocities, such as raping, sodomizing and then killing young Indian girls could not be recorded by smoke signals.

    In “Killers of the Flower Moon”, (The Osage Murders and the Birth of the FBI), David Graham writes about killing these Indians after oil is discovered beneath their land in the 1920s.

    Another example of whites killing for money, while for the most part the Indians killed to save their lives, land, and liberty.

    A long term overview:


    • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2017 at 5:21 pm #

      No, they were in constant war with each other. It was a sport for many of these cultures, and a way to gain wealth, prestige, and social position. A Way of Life in other words. Whites were merely better at it because of our superior weapons, numbers, and organization. But before the latter two were in place, we often suffered terribly.

      There could be no America without the conquest and dispossession of the Indians. You must choose – Kierkegaard’s either/or. You can still admire the Great Chiefs and Warriors of the Defeated Race. I do. But the Higher Race needed this Land and took it. As it should be. Now we’re the Indians, disorganized and failing….

      All Land is Sword Land! Does the Constitution insure our right to bear Arms? No, the guns themselves do…..

      • thwack October 8, 2017 at 5:32 pm #

        You can still admire the Great Chiefs and Warriors of the Defeated Race.


        Defeated race?

        I think NOT.

        Every time I drive through the Home Depot parking lot I realize the Ghost Dance worked (it just took longer)

        • elysianfield October 9, 2017 at 10:50 am #

          Did not the Ghost dance make the dancer impervious to the enemy’s weapons? If the dance, indeed works, we should introduce the step to the denizens of Detroit….

          Just trying to help….

      • Buck Stud October 8, 2017 at 7:06 pm #

        My descendants fought the English for hundreds of years in the Scottish Highlands and once here, the Revolutionary War, ultimately arriving/settling in what is now Wheeling West Virginia in 1788 so there is no question what they did back in the day.

        Interesting post up above; I have no trouble whatsoever believing it, although they omitted at least one form of torture:


    • pequiste October 8, 2017 at 9:26 pm #

      Such bitter irony on so many levels.

      Fighting with, and killing Indians for land and killing Indians for money.

      First Columbus Day and then next month Thanksgiving, to celebrate the “situation” vis-a-vis the Indians of Turtle Island.

      Wars between conquerors and Indians for 400 years.

      Treaties made, broken and discarded.

      Giving the Indians pitiful reservations to exist on after killing enough of them.

      Then America putting images of the defeated Indians ON the money. Gold specie coinage. Highly valued then, highly valued now.

      Indians now conducting the kind of warfare all Capitalists understand and appreciate – economic war.

      Indians pay no taxes on the rez.and get a nice check from Unkle Sugar. They have their own “bureau” too.

      Indians selling cut-rate cigarettes to all Americans for cancer and profit. Fair turn of play for the old smallpox blanket trick.

      And do not forget the Indian casino bonanza, whereby (some of) the Indians are making a (financial) killing of Americans (of every race, creed and religion) with popular gambling establishments on their reservations all around the country.

      Is this U.S.A. some crazy place or what?

    • Cavepainter October 8, 2017 at 10:47 pm #

      And yes, the very purpose behind the genius of our government was aimed at formulating principled process (somewhat like Robert’s Rules of Order) for managing the innate behavior of humans, rather, that is, than all Utopian fantasies of miraculously changing that behavior — today through incantation of PC and virtue signalling.

  61. tucsonspur October 8, 2017 at 4:11 pm #

    David Grann.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 8, 2017 at 5:23 pm #

      Do Not Fear the Reaper is playing on Infowars. Alex just said the local Texas Indians used to eat people. The Force is with me and I am unbeatable as long as it is. All things will bend in my direction and against you.

      • MrTibbs October 8, 2017 at 9:41 pm #

        NEW LAW.

        In the old republic, career politicians enjoy passing new laws impacting the Bill of Rights, while they themselves enjoy 24/7 armed security.

        In the New Republic, members enjoy passing Constitutional Amendments eliminating career politicians.
        “Realization is three-dimensional, a simultaneous comprehension of head, heart, and instinct. It comes only from direct experience.”
        • Dan Millman, ”Way of the Peaceful Warrior”, 1980.
        “Wealth is the ability to fully experience life.”
        • Henry David Thoreau, 1861.
        “Everything that is really great and inspiring is created by the individual who can labor in freedom.”
        • Albert Einstein, 1948.
        “Either man is obsolete or war is. War is the ultimate tool of politics. Political leaders look out only for their own side. Politicians are always realistically maneuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers. “
        • R. Buckminster Fuller, 1968.

        New Amendments: (Effective and executed immediately upon Amendments Convention ratification.)

        28. Term limits. Senators are limited to two (6) year terms. Representatives are limited to five (2) year terms.
        29. Lobbying exclusion. Excludes an individual from serving as a Senator or Representative, and once having served, LOBBYING IS STRICTLY FORBIDDEN.
        30. Balanced budget. No treasury expenditures shall be permitted without an approved balanced budget.
        31. Foreign conquest. Not permitted without an accurate threat assessment to the homeland and approved by direct democratic vote.

        (34) State Legislatures may amend the Constitution accordingly, peacefully, with manageable consequences.


        Y = career politicians x career lobbyists x globalist mainstream media x career unelected Deep State bureaucrats x Hollywood elites x unprosecuted corruption x globalist banking cartels x globalist technocrats
        “God integrates empirically.” -Albert Einstein.
        Y = old republic NETWORK globalism = THE SWAMP.

        Sent From the New Republic.

  62. BackRowHeckler October 8, 2017 at 10:53 pm #

    Tonite in Middletown and New Haven Christopher Columbus monuments vandalized. Both these towns have large Italian American populations. Antifa announced an ‘Aktion!’ to destroy these statues across the country on Columbus Day, and this may be part of that initiative.

    Antifa apparently has a Civil War planned for Nov. 4. That’s deer season, but I have a hunch these Red Guards will avoid where the deer hunters are and stick to the cities, where the hipsters are.


  63. homesteader October 8, 2017 at 11:33 pm #

    I believe it was ‘Gimme Shelter’ by The Rolling Stones (not You Know Who).

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  64. BackRowHeckler October 9, 2017 at 1:23 am #

    Well, my theory on the Las Vegas shooter has been proved wrong already: I figured he was torqued off at Vegas itself on account of huge incurred gambling losses, and he wanted to get even. This doesn’t seem to be the case. In fact he had plans to shoot up Chicago and Boston too, and had a car full of explosives. Maybe he was sick of it all and just wanted to go out in a blaze of glory and take as many people with him as he could.

    Jim had some interesting thoughts on the Columbine shooters in 1999 and they may apply here. It had to do with the sterility of the place itself, its artificiality and impermanence, with no real history and a future that was uncertain. It is partially that which drives people over the edge.


  65. tucsonspur October 9, 2017 at 4:22 am #

    “….as if they came out of a trunk full of tin soldiers in the White House playroom”. JHK

    Simply wonderful.

    • tucsonspur October 9, 2017 at 4:23 am #

      Better late than never.


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