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It must be hard on The New York Times editors to set their hair on fire day after day in their effort to start World War Three. Today’s lead story, Russian Threat on Two Fronts Meets Strategic Void in the U.S., aims to keep ramping up twin hysterias over a new missile gap and fear of Russian “meddling” in the 2018 midterm elections.

The Times’s world-view begins to look like the script of a Batman sequel with Vlad Putin cast in The Joker role of the cackling psychopath who must be stopped at all costs! America’s generals have switched on the Batman signal beacon, but Donald Trump in the role of the Caped Crusader, merely dithers and broods in the splendid isolation of his 1600 Penn Avenue Bat Cave, suffering yet another of his endless bipolar identity crises. For God’s sake, The Times shrieks, do something! The Russians are coming! (Gotham City’s Chief of Police Hillary said exactly that last week in a Tweet!)

I think they misunderstood Mr. Putin’s recent message when he announced a new hypersonic missile technology that would, supposedly, cut through any imaginable US missile defense. The actual message, for the non mental defectives left in this drooling idiocracy of a republic, was as follows: Nuclear war remains unthinkable, so kindly stop thinking about it.

Mr. Putin’s other strategic position is also misrepresented — actually, not even acknowledged — in Monday’s NYT propaganda blast, namely, to discourage the USA’s decades-long policy of regime change here, there, and everywhere on the planet, creating a debris trail of one failed state after another. As a true-blue American, I must say these are two admirable propositions. Is it fatuous to add that atomic war is unlikely to benefit anyone? Or that the world has had enough of US military “meddling” in foreign lands?

Of course the shopworn trope of Russian “meddling” in the 2016 election still occupies the center ring of the American political circus. Today’s Times story includes another clumsy attempt to set up expectations that the 2018 midterm elections will be hacked by Russia, in order to keep the hysteria at code-red level. As usual, the proposition assumes that the alleged 2016 hacking is both proven and significant when, going on two years, there is no evidence of hacking besides the obviously amateurish Facebook troll farm. (And, by the way, how does that compare to the USA’s 2014 covert toppling of Ukraine’s president Viktor Yanukovych?  Talk about “meddling!”)

…[I]n public statements in recent weeks, Mr. Trump’s top intelligence officials have conceded that the president has yet to discuss strategies with them to prevent the Russians from interfering in the midterm elections this year. Mr. Trump has expressed severe doubts that the Russians meddled in 2016, contradicting the conclusions of his intelligence officials.

By inference, The New York Times has no doubts that the 2016 election was fatally hacked to defeat its preferred candidate — though there is plenty of reason to suppose that the entire Russian “meddling” story was a mendacious psyops product of John O. Brennan’s CIA. It was only a few months ago that The Times and the cable news networks were shrieking about the White House National Security Advisor (General Flynn) being caught speaking with the Russian Ambassador — as if foreign ambassadors come here for some reason other than to keep open communication lines with American officials.

What’s going on here makes the Red Scare of 1920 and the McCarthy episode of the early 1950s look sedate in comparison. It’s reasonable to suppose that officials in any foreign country watching the dismal ongoing spectacle here would conclude that the United States has lost its mind. Somebody please take us to the hydrotherapy chamber!

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650 Responses to “Light It Up”

  1. DrGonzo March 5, 2018 at 9:29 am #

    Any writer who insists on putting the ongoing problem of Russian “meddling” in our elections in “quotes” is not part of the solution. It’s clearly a very real problem. Maybe not our biggest, but nevertheless very real, and very troubling. I really don’t get “JHK” any more.

    • Zoltar March 5, 2018 at 9:33 am #

      Codswallop, Doc. “””Russian Meddling””” isn’t among our top one hundred problems. It just gives us an excuse to ignore them.

      • dannyboy March 5, 2018 at 6:40 pm #

        Agree. I am sad to see Kunstler’s attention captured by Russiamediamadness or Trump’s tweetinghismadness.

        That’s just the sideshow folks, intended to distract.

        Kunstler, let’s get that level-headedness back. We need you!

    • noel bodie March 5, 2018 at 9:50 am #

      I’m with you Doc. Imho the clear and present danger is not the nyt or tats or baggy pants…it is the systematic control of the message by the libertarian donor class thru their “institutes,centers,foundations,endowed chairs,and media outlets”. The market place of ideas they so humbly bow to is a marketplace that is rigged with their billions in campaign spending. Witness exhibt “a” one Neil Gorsuch of the Federalists society now sitting in judgement on Janus v. Afscme a law suit funded by the libertarians, brought in by Bruce Rauner to wreck unions to put more money in the pockets of the “donors” to continue attacking public education and the teachers unions. This all thru their so called philantropy which is tax deductible and goes to the aforementioned “foundations” to spew their self serving busines interests. Alas, nary a word on this from our host.

      • DeFlor March 5, 2018 at 10:03 am #

        Is JHK turning out to be a Russian troll, trying to undermine Americans’ view of US viability? Nearly impossible to believe that, of course, but he certainly focuses of talking points that indirectly support Trump, despite his protestations to the contrary. I don’t get it.

        • draupnir March 5, 2018 at 1:01 pm #

          Kindly try to keep in mind that Russia is no longer the evil Communist empire (it has an economy the size of Texas and a relatively small population for it’s size). You really need to ask yourself who stands to benefit from all of this fomented hysteria and consider other motives for sowing fear and hate. Our government is not, of course, happy with Russia. They have, so far, thwarted our attempt at regime change in Syria, and our Middle Eastern friends still have hopes of building a pipeline to Europe through there. They annexed the Crimea, at the population’s request, after the successful, US backed coup and ouster of the legally elected president of the Ukraine (who preferred closer ties with Russia over joining NATO (there’s no accounting for tastes). Basically, they continue to refuse to lay down and spread their legs. How dare they.

          • outsider March 5, 2018 at 2:03 pm #

            I hardly think that the Russians “annexed” Crimea, since it was part of Russia for hundreds of years with a majority Russian population. To say that the USA “stole” Ukraine is much more accurate.

          • RocketDoc March 5, 2018 at 2:09 pm #

            That’s my take. I’m no Russian cheerleader having had 4 Ukrainian delegations in my home for a week over the last 4 years but we all have “interests”. WE are supposed to be smart enough to pay the trolls no mind.

        • MontanaMan March 6, 2018 at 7:02 am #

          Negative. He just isn’t one of those that see’s a Russkie behind every fast food joint. China is our direct enemy. Besides stealing on average “$400 Billion Dollars A Year Of Out Intellectual Property” WSJ last week. Russia China Who Is Our Real, Enemy?” They are constantly on a daily basis trying to hack into different banks different departments in federal & state governments various power grids etc etc. after traveling to 48 different countries including Russia, I got news for anyone, I had rather have Russia on our side than China that is so close to owning Canada. Completely.

      • capt spaulding March 5, 2018 at 10:15 am #

        Unions created the conditions most of us (union & non-union) work under nowadays. Things like a 40 hour work week, vacations & holidays, benefits, etc. Getting rid of unions has been a wet dream of the Oligarchs since their inception. Privatization of most govt. functions is another. From running prisons, to the post office, & everything in between. Belonging to a union made it possible for me to own my house, put my kids through college, and through my pension plan, to have a comfortable, if modest, retirement. Unions are the only defense against corporate greed. Without them, we’ll go back to working 12 hour days, 6 days a week. If you don’t believe it, go back & read about the working conditions in the 1930’s.

        • mdl17576 March 5, 2018 at 12:17 pm #

          Unions are A defense against corporate greed, but not the only one. Unions formed to represent the interests of workers since the perceived interests of the owner class sought profit maximization over all else. That system of running a business has conflict built into it’s DNA. What if instead the workers and owners were the same? I know I would work harder if I owned a stake, and did better when the company did better. This needs to be a more common model. We need to start buying up stock in our employers and taking them over. A smart candidate would offer low interest loans to finance employee led buyouts, paid back through profits.

          • capt spaulding March 5, 2018 at 12:34 pm #

            There is a company called Anderson Windows in Wisconsin that is the largest manufacturer of windows in the US. They pay the best wages around, and every year the employees get profit sharing based on their years of service. There are some workers there who get bonuses of over $30,000.00. It’s a non union plant, but then it doesn’t have to be union does it? You can’t get a job there to save your life. One is tempted to ask why other companies don’t follow that example. Anderson is the largest, most profitable window manufacturer in the country, & all it took was for the Anderson family not to be greedy and to spread the joy around a little.

        • Janos Skorenzy March 5, 2018 at 2:23 pm #

          Big Labor sold us out when it embraced illegals – who are by definition, scabs. Consider: the head of a Union goes to work in a suit every day. He meets with other guys wearing suits. He begins to like some of them and envy their seven figure salaries compared to his six. He begins to see eye to eye with them and the sweaty little people seem very far away and unlikeable.

          • Ol' Scratch March 5, 2018 at 3:16 pm #

            That’s how it works. Class envy.

          • cbeard March 5, 2018 at 6:42 pm #

            The Anderson Window Co. is a great example of capitalism as it should be. Thanks for your post. I’m afraid most companies will never get it, with ridiculous CEO, management salaries and keeping the shareholders happy mentality.

          • MontanaMan March 6, 2018 at 7:04 am #

            Outstanding comment!! Bravo ?!! Bravo ?!! Bravo ?!!

        • Linda March 5, 2018 at 10:01 pm #

          I’m a union retiree and I agree, capt spaulding.

      • aibohphobia March 5, 2018 at 4:04 pm #

        Libertarians are doing all this? I didn’t know the Libertarians had that much money or influence. If that’s the case, why couldn’t they field a better candidate in the previous election (or any of them)?

        Perhaps you are speaking about Democrat-affiliated entities…

        • bhnj13 March 5, 2018 at 11:39 pm #

          yeah i didnt realize it was the libertarians pulling the strings this whole time.
          how quickly the comments went to discussing organized labor and libertarian conspiracies. As previously stated here, I dont understand JHKs obsession with the russian coverage. Doesn’t really fit into the larger narrative here…
          Ill comment anyway, though, ha. IMO russia is a rival at best, not to be trusted. they have, since the first days of the soviet union, worked to undermine and counter us and have been more successful than any other country until the recent rise of china. why defend them? even if the coverage is overblown (which it is for everything now) our interests almost never align.
          they attacked us in syria a few weeks back – no mention whatsoever from JHK, Trump, MSM, or anybody else really.

    • beard681 March 5, 2018 at 9:58 am #

      ???If anything, the “meddling” trope demonstrates that compared to a multitude of other countries, Russian influence on American politics is minor to non-existent.

      From contributions to think tanks and NGOs, to out-and-out foreign directed political action groups, to voting and political contributions from “dual citizens” there are foreign voices screaming to influence US Politics. In comparison, Russian Influence (e.g. RT) is a whisper.

    • DeFlor March 5, 2018 at 10:00 am #

      Agree. Does JHK not doubt that the Putin government would like to see a much weaker EU and US?

      • snarkmatic9000 March 5, 2018 at 10:24 am #

        JHK seems to strangely ignore the incontrovertibly established fact that Russian operatives most certainly did hack into the Dems and others. No, we can”t prove any actual vote changing, but so what? They’ve been at this for generations. I for one wish he’d get back to Oil and energy, like the recent superb Blittersdorf interview, and the insidious financial manipulation by the PTB. Guess the present course must be more profitable (eyeballs?)

        • James Howard Kunstler March 5, 2018 at 10:38 am #

          There is no evidence that the DNC / Clinton / Podesta emails were hacked by Russia. –JHK

          • Ludwig Beck March 5, 2018 at 12:43 pm #

            It is not entirely clear that that is the case with Podesta’s email account.

          • draupnir March 5, 2018 at 1:09 pm #

            There seems to be evidence it was the murdered Seth Rich with a UBS drive in the very heart of the DNC who sold them out to Wikileaks.

          • Cavepainter March 5, 2018 at 6:02 pm #

            JHK, these early “comments” are, to use a military phrase, “suppression fire”– meaning that your influence on the public discourse has come to be significant enough to make you a target of “bots” and other techniques for short circuiting connection to the broader context you present.

          • Petro March 5, 2018 at 7:16 pm #

            @Cavepainter: Every week now we see a remark like yours, implying that anyone who disagrees with the more Right-wing commenters (who seem to predominate here), or who challenges some of what Kunstler has written, are labelled “bots” or “trolls.” Such an easy dismissal, and so tiresome.

          • JustSaying March 6, 2018 at 6:35 am #

            It was a leak, not a hack according to William Binney because the transmission rates were too fast. And according to Binney, the NSA has the capability to prove it.

          • megaculpa March 6, 2018 at 9:38 pm #

            In this brave new media world, we now have incontrovertible facts in the absence of evidence. Every day on CNN and MSNBC. No wonder some of your readers are confused, Jim.

        • Epicur March 5, 2018 at 10:51 am #

          The DNC computer files were transferred at a rate (speed) that is not possible over the internet (a hack). Whoever did it had direct, personal access to the computer to load the files directly onto a portable device.

          It was an inside job.

          A disgruntled Sanders supporter would have had the motive and the opportunity.

          • PeteAtomic March 5, 2018 at 11:11 am #

            cough cough, Seth Rich, cough cough

          • Jeremy March 5, 2018 at 2:23 pm #

            Bingo – ask Binney.

        • JustSaying March 6, 2018 at 10:31 am #


          “So far the evidence (& lack of it) shows that RussiaGate is one of the most successful propaganda campaigns in American history, supporting the great goal of starting a new Cold War. The first Cold War provided vast benefits to our elites, and they will do whatever necessary to achieve a second harvest”.

        • jloughrey March 7, 2018 at 2:06 am #

          The only election fraud that ocurred in the Democratic primaries was by the DNC, which has yet to be held to account. Yet we’re supposed to fear unproven Russian meddling? We have much bigger problems.

        • DrGonzo March 7, 2018 at 9:19 pm #

          “Get back to oil and energy”: You mean like when Kunstler told us over and over again, ten years ago, that our planet had hit “peak oil”, having flatlined production at about 82 million barrels/day?

          Globally, production last year was about 92 mbd.

          Like you, I enjoyed JHK’s sharp old per critiques of our dead-end “happy motoring” society, before he became obsessed with the “deep state”, transsexuals, and black people who don’t dress to his taste. But JHK never has been good at predicting inflection points. Dow 4,500, anyone? LOL.

      • James Howard Kunstler March 5, 2018 at 10:37 am #

        My view is that Russia would prefer, above all, to be treated as a normal European nation, not as a convenient boogyman to distract America (and Western Europe’s) from failure to address their own real problems — looming resource scarcities, ecological devastation, a wobbling financial system, grotesque income inequality, and a cratering middle class. — JHK

        • sauerkraut March 5, 2018 at 11:12 am #

          Distraction. I think you’re onto something, James.

          But having said that, big swaths of the world may be looking for some payback. As you have also noted.

        • bentley12 March 5, 2018 at 11:39 am #

          You are theorizing that there was some grand meeting of the heads of all the intel agencies to come up with a story about Trump and the Russians to distract the population of the US from the real problems. While what is being reported does have that effect, do you really believe that a bunch of inept and fallible lawyers and cops at those agencies would be capable of mounting such a grand scheme? And that they got the NYTimes and the liberal cable channels to report their planted stories? And that they appointed a special prosecutor to give their plot even more credibility? And that Mueller is play-acting, knowing that the whole thing is fake? That Mueller is such a criminal himself that he would take part in what he knows is a phony operation from the start? Do you really believe that?

          • volodya March 5, 2018 at 12:00 pm #

            Believe yer lyin’ eyes.

            Most of the time things are as exactly as they appear. The elite consensus was that Trump must not win but now that he HAS won, he has to be taken down. He can not rule, he must not rule, and time is a-wastin’. Most everyone in the American Upper Crust and their bi-coastal managerial clerisy agree on that. As I said, believe what you see and hear.

            For one thing, the American elite are not that numerous so it isn’t that difficult to co-ordinate actions. For another, “conspiracies” in the sense of well-laid plans, don’t have to be explicit, they don’t have to be all that “well laid”, they can be unspoken understandings that take shape over time and acted upon accordingly. People in social groups take the example from one another as to what needs to be done.

          • Matt Holbert March 5, 2018 at 12:34 pm #

            “Do you really believe that?”

            What I believe is that many folks aren’t able to step back and look at the big picture for whatever reason. While some of those reasons are ideological, many are simply not informed of the facts because they only listen to whatever source mirrors their ideological inclination — likely informed by their background. Unfortunately in our manic society most — even if they were inclined — don’t have the time or make the time to read broadly and think independently. Mueller is simply a bureaucrat that needs a job in order to maintain his lifestyle. He is not paid to see the big picture.

            Jim is likely an INTJ or an INTP (Myers-Briggs parlance) as are most who have reviewed Chris Martenson’s material and blog at PeakProsperity. As a general rule this cohort is much more inclined to see the big picture and as a consequence they understand that RussiaGate is a huge distraction. We have far more to worry about.

          • Epicur March 5, 2018 at 2:06 pm #

            “You are theorizing that there was some grand meeting of the heads of all the intel agencies to come up with a story about Trump and the Russians to distract the population of the US from the real problems.”

            No. I believe the same type of morons that brought this nation and the world to the brink of the abyss are aware that Trump is just the kind of moron who will trigger our inevitable collapse and descent into the same abyss – BUT there is one big difference in their minds and that is that when Trump is sitting in the White House he holds the reins when the Emergency is declared.

            The Emergency powers of the Executive Branch of the US are vast and everyone knows it. Anyone with half a brain also knows that we are headed inexorably for that Emergency, but many of the denizens of the swamp have had that half of their brains lobotomized and think THEY can avoid what Trump may bring.

            The panic is very real and is all about who sits in the White House when the Emergency is declared.

            Me? I’ll watch as long as the popcorn and my heart hold out. To quote Robinson Jeffers again:

            “There is no reason for amazement: surely one always knew
            that cultures decay, and life’s end is death.”


          • outsider March 5, 2018 at 2:23 pm #


            Mueller may or may not be a criminal but he is a man totally without honor. It is tragic that he chose to end his career this way, as a stooge for Hillary and the Democrats.

          • jdhines March 5, 2018 at 3:26 pm #


            Absolutely. Believing all that horseshit does strain credulity. If one does believe that hog wash, they must have a real penchant for conspiracy theories, plain and simple.


          • JustSaying March 6, 2018 at 6:38 am #

            I don’t think you understand how power works.

          • Fan of Entropy March 6, 2018 at 8:37 am #

            As George Carlin once said:

            “You don’t need a formal conspiracy when interests converge.”

      • outsider March 5, 2018 at 2:08 pm #

        Of course they would. As an American I would too – especially a much weaker USA when it comes to its military overreach.

        • outsider March 5, 2018 at 2:11 pm #

          I didn’t realize my comment would appear down this far. I was addressing DeFlor’s comment from 10 am about Putin preferring a weaker US.

    • elysianfield March 5, 2018 at 11:04 am #

      …with all respect…”bullshit”….

      • cbeard March 5, 2018 at 12:17 pm #

        I’ll second the “bullshit”.

        • Linda March 5, 2018 at 10:09 pm #

          I’ll third the “bullshit.”

    • PeteAtomic March 5, 2018 at 11:05 am #

      Yes, that actor in Florida who dressed up as HRC in a prison outfit swung millions of votes in the US.

      I mean, wow. That decided the election! Everybody saw that and thought, wow! HRC is a criminal. We can’t vote for her 🙂

      Oh, that and Blacktivist. That poster on the internet swung the whole black vote to Trump.

      I mean, an actor and a poster on the internet. That’s all the Russians needed, man.

      A James Bond supervillain has nothing on the Russians 🙂

    • bentley12 March 5, 2018 at 11:23 am #

      I agree. I don’t pretend to know what the hell is really going on. But I make no hesitation in calling bullshit on JHK’s batshit conspiracy theories regarding the “shenanigans of HRC and the Deep State”. Granted, the intel agencies have been guilty of psyops in the US and even mounting coups in other nations in the past. But that theory does not hold up as regards Trump and Russia. I am sure the evidence that Russia hacked the DNC email servers is going to come out. General Flynn was not just conducting diplomacy with Russian diplomats. He was ensuring them that the Trump Administration was going to use the power it just obtained to lift sanctions in return for not exposing Trump’s shady financial dealing and the fact that Trump and his inner circle had gotten dirt on HRC from them. And besides, if the “Deep State” cooked up the whole thing, what would be their ultimate goal? President Pence? That theory falls apart when looking at that facet alone. The establishment might be able to live with Pence a little easier than Trump, but still, the difference would hardly make it worth the trouble to mount such an extensive fabricated story about Russian meddling and then get a special prosecutor appointed to mount such an extensive investigation into a story that they had fabricated. Seems absurd they would go to all that trouble, looked at from that standpoint, does it not?

      • James Howard Kunstler March 5, 2018 at 2:49 pm #

        bentley12 — You’re “sure the evidence that Russia hacked the DNC will come out?” I guess your self-certainty is all the evidence the country needs… after two years of allegations, suppositions, hypotheses, and assumptions.
        Was General Flynn talking to the Russian ambassador about substantive issues? What was he supposed to be chatting about? Dinnerware patterns? The Boston Red Sox’s pitching prospects? — JHK

        • jdhines March 5, 2018 at 3:42 pm #


          It shouldn’t be too much longer and we’ll know all; if Mueller has anything or not, and we won’t have to rely on bentley12 or anyone else. My question, if Flynn was doing something harmless, or expected, even chatting about the Sox’s pitching prospects, why would he lie? Why? And further, why would he plead guilty? This guy is a three star general who knows a lot about intelligence, having been head of DOD intelligence, and yet he rolls over like a puppy and pleads guilty? Why? I just don’t buy that. Maybe I’m wrong, g_d knows I have been plenty of times in the past, but that seems to be asking one to believe an awful lot, which on this one I cannot.


          • outsider March 5, 2018 at 9:01 pm #

            @ jdhines,

            Unless something happens to stop it, there is no doubt in my mind that this Mueller witch hunt will go on and on until the powers-that-be get rid of Trump. That’s why Trump should take the really bold step and fire Mueller (which he can legally do) and damn the torpedoes. The media would hate it, but the ‘deplorable’ majority out there would love it.

            As for Flynn, it could be a case of someone who has held high command still thinking he was one of them. He trusted people he knew whom he should never have trusted. He forgot the first principle of law when a suspect – never talk to cops without a lawyer.

        • bentley12 March 5, 2018 at 4:11 pm #

          Mueller is sitting on an iceberg. What we can see is only the tip.

          • jdhines March 6, 2018 at 9:46 am #


            That Trump will go, I have no doubt, but I don’t think it will be due to the PTB, but rather himself. Actually, I’d love to see him try to fire Mueller and watch the fireworks. You are correct, the deplorables would love it and therein lies one of GGG’s big problems. He plays to (lies to?) a base that has very little power and doesn’t really fully understand what has happened to them. If they did, they would have left the Rust Belt (hollers or plains) years ago for warmer economic climes. It is tragic what has happened to the hinterland and they have legitimate bitches; I just don’t think they chose their leader very wisely.

            Trump’s minions are now going bankrupt due to legal fees and facing possible jail time. His loyalty is one-way, you’re obligated to be loyal and spend your own funds in support of GGG, but he is not obligated to do anything to aid you. This is not someone I’d take a bullet for. How about you?


      • JustSaying March 6, 2018 at 6:40 am #

        The Russian hack evidence will come out when the Iraqi WMD evidence will come out.

      • JustSaying March 6, 2018 at 10:23 am #


        “An analysis by FAIR has found that the leading liberal cable network did not run a single segment devoted specifically to Yemen in the second half of 2017. And in these latter roughly six months of the year, MSNBC ran nearly 5,000 percent more segments that mentioned Russia than segments that mentioned Yemen.”

    • jdhines March 5, 2018 at 12:01 pm #


      I don’t get JHK either. He was doing so well last Friday too. “The Russians just want to be treated like any other European nation.”-JHK, That doesn’t seem close to accurate to me.


      • bentley12 March 5, 2018 at 7:10 pm #

        Of course you are right JD. I can’t fathom JHK’s strange defense of Trump as regards Russian activity or possible collusion. We don’t know if Russia hacked the DNC, but we do know that everyone in the Trump camp, including Trump himself, are not acting like innocent people. Why all the lying? Why are they seeming to go easy on Putin by refusing to instruct the NSA to beef up cyber security? Why refuse to impose the sanctions? Probably Trump owes them money. There is no doubt that Putin wanted Trump to win because he knows he can control him because of the money issue. Why did Trump refuse to release his tax returns? So it logically follows that Russia did what they could to influence the election in Trump’s favor. That doesn’t prove collusion, but considering the lies, and what Trump said on the stump, “Russia if you’re listening”, it seems obvious at the very least that the Trump people were fine with Russian influence. They did nothing to stop it or support the investigations into it. It is awfully hard to believe that those are the actions of innocent people. Plenty of smoke, and it’s not hard to see there must be a fire. It’s very hard to believe the whole thing is a hoax on the part of some mythical “Deep State”. Get real.

        • VCS March 5, 2018 at 8:18 pm #

          Thank you JD, Bentley, Dr. Gonzo —
          I’ll bet I’m not the only relatively inarticulate lurker appreciating what you say and how you say it here.

          • ricksinger March 5, 2018 at 8:52 pm #

            VCS and JD. Thank you. I’ve been accused of being a troll, and my reasonably thought out arguments disregarded.

            I have been what happened to the JHK who was objective and unbiased.

            Where did you go, James?

          • K-Dog March 7, 2018 at 2:45 am #

            “reasonably thought out arguments disregarded”

            A quick search shows that as of this time this week you have no other posts so you don’t have reasonably thought arguments or arguments of any other kind even half potted ones. So where did he go? He will let you play with yourself. JHK does not have to watch trolls masturbate.

    • Peter VE March 5, 2018 at 12:07 pm #

      “Russian meddling” is a moon cast shadow compared to effects of Citizen’s United; and the release of Comey’s letter to Congress 11 days before the election. Is anyone looking into Comey’s relations to the Russians?

    • Janos Skorenzy March 5, 2018 at 2:18 pm #

      You simply don’t have any perspective as to size: the vast amount of activity was all American – because we hate you people and found in Hillary an epitome of all that we hate. And Trump was the Anti-Hillary.

      • outsider March 5, 2018 at 2:35 pm #

        Agreed, Janos. The USA has always been the aggressor nation regarding Russia. They only threaten us because we have threatened them with extinction ever since we turned on Stalin right after they won WWII for the West. After the war, some crackpot generals wanted the US to nuke the USSR before they got the bomb too. Stalin was forced to spend all of Russia’s rubles on re-building their military when he would have preferred to spend that money re-building their devastated economy.

        • SpeedyBB March 5, 2018 at 3:21 pm #

          ‘…crackpot generals…’

          Cigar-chomping Curtis LeMay, destroyer of Tokyo.

          I haven’t been able to dig up much on it on the WWW but when I was about 13 I recall somebody in my Dad’s SAC unit talking about ‘preventive war’ which is about as Orwellian as you can get: ‘war to prevent war’, involving sending a fleet of B-36s to nuke the Soviets before they could return the favor. 1954.

          As I recall Ike went ixnay on that one, to the sad consternation of the ever-hopeful creative thinkers in the Pentagon.

        • Janos Skorenzy March 5, 2018 at 5:42 pm #

          Well, yes and no: McCarthy and John Birth were right too: the Stalinists exerted tremendous effort to undermine the West. But of course McCarthy didn’t understand that the real power of Communism was right here in America: the Banks who funded it. John Birch understood more.

        • elysianfield March 6, 2018 at 10:44 am #

          Stalin was forced to spend all of Russia’s rubles on re-building their military when he would have preferred to spend that money re-building their devastated economy.

          Are you about to suggest that Soviet Communism failed due to Stalin being forced into military spending? Did we sow the seeds of its destruction back in ’45?

      • bentley12 March 5, 2018 at 7:24 pm #

        Hey Skorenzy, I hope you and all the Trump supporters are enjoying this clusterfuck you created by voting for Trump. It didn’t start with Trump, but the oligarchs are really consolidating their power under Trump. Expect worsening environmental conditions, even less civil rights for gays, women and immigrants, more injustice in general, less money for schools and healthcare, cuts to your SS and Medicare, and just about the total destruction of everything that was ever established to help improve the lives of ordinary people. Enjoy your life under the Trump fascistic Christian theocracy that this poor, worn out, beaten down country is becoming as it disintegrates. That is, unless you are anoligarch yourself. In that case, pay your dues at Mar-a-Lago and have a blast rubbing elbows with the Orange Asshole. And save your asinine “liberal snowflake” dismissing of me. That ship of stupid sailed long ago.

        • Linda March 5, 2018 at 10:26 pm #

          Bentley12 – who was in office and pushed NAFTA through – it was his baby after all. I voted for the jackass twice because I was a Democrat. How about WTO? How about the Commodity Future Modernization Act? Or repealing Glass-Steagall? How about allowing media companies to form monopolies by allowing six to eight companies to own all the media in the country? Who was that? Not Trump. How about pushing through the UnAffordable Care Act through parliamentary sleight of hand because Massachusetts had actually elected a Republican because they did not want this bill to be passed. How about the war in Libya, Ukraine, Syria, doubling the national debt? Bah. Trump is the least of our problems. And I voted for him and I don’t regret that vote at all.

          • bentley12 March 6, 2018 at 11:29 am #

            Linda, I never said I supported Democrats because I think Trump is a disaster. They are all complicit in creating the oligarchic, fascistic, order that we are increasingly living under. If you don’t like Obamacare, and granted it is deeply flawed, then what do you propose in its place? Trump offered empty words and Repubs in Congress basically the same. Paul Ryan wants to take away the slight improvements to ability to obtain healthcare that Obamacare offered. What do you think you are getting from Trump? Dirty air and water, loss of civil rights for gays and immigrants, increased militarized policing, loss of collective bargaining and further destruction of workers’ rights, cuts to social safety nets, privatization of public assets, Christian controlof every facet of civil discourse,and any number of other anti-democratic harms to society? Enjoy.

          • bentley12 March 6, 2018 at 11:54 am #

            Let me add that anyone who would vote for an abysmally ignorant, completely unqualified, narcissistic and thuggish, sexually predatory, con man for president, and see the predictable negative results now coming to fruition, and still have no regrets, is seriously deluded. You are either ignorant, brain-washed by right wing media, stupid, or simply all of the above. Sad!

        • elysianfield March 6, 2018 at 10:55 am #

          I considered a vote for Trump a vote for sanctioned anarchy…and we are getting our money’s worth.

          Trump is doing EVEYTHING he said he would do. Do you not find that admirable in a politician?

          Our country, as you might suggest, has terminal cancer. If you were so diagnosed, you would hire a surgeon to attempt to prolong your life…much pain and expense…how does that often work out? The current issue is always in doubt, but the end of the game always results in oblivion.

          • bentley12 March 6, 2018 at 11:43 am #

            Trump has done nothing that he said he would do except appoint a hard right justice to the Supreme Court. A seat that the GOP stole, I might add. He promised a “beautiful healthcare system” and came up empty. He promised to “drain the swamp”. Don’t make me laugh! He promised a fix to the immigration system. Nada. He promised an infrastructure program. So far, nothing but a half-assed privatization scheme for the oligarchs. He promised a reduction in nuclear weapons and military involvements and has been rushing headlong in the opposite direction. He promised to fix trade imbalances with tariffs. Just the proposal sent the markets into a tailspin and caused economic forecasters to predict higher prices and job losses. Yeah, Trump is really doing everything he said he would. Trump is a liar and a con man. Anyone who believes otherwise is delusional. If that is what you admire, perhaps you need to reconsider your convictions.

          • elysianfield March 6, 2018 at 6:48 pm #

            Would you accept…”tried to do everything he promised?”

            Reconsider my convictions? Never caught, never tried, never convicted….

            Yours in delusion,

        • JustSaying March 6, 2018 at 12:54 pm #

          Woke up the other day and observed that Trump America is just like Obama America and Bush America and Clinton America.

          • bentley12 March 6, 2018 at 1:50 pm #

            Only militarily and broken-justice system-wise. Social conservatives will destroy what is left of the social contract. Expect every measure of well-being for ordinary working Americans to get worse. The tax bil, which is the biggest transfer of wealth upward in history, has the rubes thinking they will benefit. Only slightly, in the short run. It is a ruse.

          • elysianfield March 6, 2018 at 6:51 pm #

            All you say regarding our future is, for the most part, correct…and remember that nobody said that you, I or the country will enjoy, or even survive, the upcoming events.

    • lsjogren March 5, 2018 at 3:05 pm #

      Technically correct. Russian meddling may be a minor issue by itself, but it is genuine. Not only that, but it has real consequences. Namely, the potential that left wingers will wipe out the human race on account of this small issue. So it is something to be taken very seriously.

      • jdhines March 5, 2018 at 3:47 pm #


        Wipe out the human race? That may be going a bit far Isjogren, don’t you think? I would venture to say that we are much more of risk of the ultimate demise at the hands of GGG, which also is not very close to happening, but certainly closer than by the Left.


      • bentley12 March 6, 2018 at 1:56 pm #

        Trump talks of nuking N. Korea and it is left wingers who will wipe out the world? Better look in the mirror, right winger!

    • Majella March 5, 2018 at 4:00 pm #

      Agreed Dr Gonzo

      For someone who is self-avowedly ‘allergic’ to conspiracy theories, Mr Kunstler seems quite happy to throw one up himself “psyops of John O. Brennan’s CIA” no less.

    • Bruce E March 5, 2018 at 4:07 pm #

      It’s all an effort to erode confidence in absolutely everything. In JHK’s case, he’s adopted the “whataboutism” crap of “well of course Russia meddles because everybody meddles, including us,” ignoring the fact that Trump up until very recently denied Russia (and still denies this of Putin) meddled at all because of what it might mean for his electoral college victory.

      Nobody in their right mind is charging DJT of pulling off a vast complex conspiracy, collaborating every step of the way with Russia, to steal the election away from HRC. Most of the charges of “collusion” involve the unwitting cooperation of idiots (like Trump Junior, and Kushner, and Page) who were played by a few marginally-talented people, including some Russians, like violins.

      They were all in over their head, and the Russians used their incompetence to get what they wanted.

      Even JHK believes DJT is an idiot who surrounds himself with morons. The NYT has never charged, to my knowledge, that DJT is some criminal mastermind who used his Russian connections to pull off the biggest heist in world history…

      Overall, it looks like Russia was sowing seeds of suspicion that would undermine confidence in whoever won, whether HRC or DJT. That they actually might have swung enough votes to change the outcome of the election is almost beside the point.

      • bhnj13 March 5, 2018 at 11:52 pm #

        bingo. well said

      • JustSaying March 6, 2018 at 6:53 am #

        OMG! 350 million people in the USA and they select Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump? So you think the Russians are undermining confidence in the USA?

        I guess it couldn’t be the opioid addiction, the hollowed out manufacturing base, the educational decline, the infrastructure collapse, the inequality of income, the rate of inflation, declining wages, social media addiction, runaway debt, political corruption, and violence at all levels of society? Nah, it’s Russia, Russia, Russia because they ran some ads on Facebook.

        • jdhines March 6, 2018 at 10:13 am #


          Yes, it is a hot mess, the whole bloody thing. We do have a drug addled society and a bunch of dopes (why do you think they call it dope?) on both sides. No doubt. The other “variables” you mention are also impactful. The USA is most probably beyond redemption. Was it all Russia, Russia, Russia? Obviously no, but did they, much to their own surprise, tip the scales just enough (75,000+ votes in 3 states) to give GGG the electoral college and this entire mess we are now living through. Probably it’s pretty safe to answer in the affirmative here. So I guess, we just let the Russians run willy-nilly through our election process and do nothing, right?


    • earltwitty March 5, 2018 at 5:12 pm #

      ONly thing I’m more sick of than Russian “meddling” is hearing people saying they’re sick of hearing About Russian “meddling”

      • earltwitty March 5, 2018 at 5:14 pm #

        Apologies for typos….

    • teddyboy46 March 6, 2018 at 11:29 am #

      That is odd I think JHK is just as brilliant as ever , but JHK uses sublime sarcasm. Perhaps you just do not get it? Just my unworthy opinion.

    • tdarr1234 March 6, 2018 at 4:11 pm #

      I’ve been thinking that for awhile. JHK is sounding more and more like a mouth piece for the Alt Right.

    • Walter B March 8, 2018 at 4:04 pm #

      Sorry Doctor ZhivGonzo but I would argue that if the Russians actually DID interfere in what you call our “election” the possibilities are that they would have much improved the farce rather than detract from it. How can you call a choice between shit and shittier an election? Do you even think those who hold power even allow us, the idiots a voce in the first [place? After all America has a track record of “choosing” whichever idiot lies the best or the most, or is the pretties, younger of the two bad choices offered if they in fact DO choose. I cannot even recall being given a viable choice, oh that’s right, the guy they whacked , JFK, he was a real leader. Exactly why they murdered him.

      I would also like to ask why the Ruskies would have not preferred Hillary Clinton as president since she not only talked to them openly but sold them uranium for arms as well. You would think that this might have enamored the KGB to get her into a real position to sell out America.

      Another even more interesting point I would like to add would be that if any foreign power actually does interfere with the American “election” process, good for them, we have earned a reach around after all of the empire building and murder for profit that the US of A has perpetrated upon the nations of the World since 1945. What goes around comes around learn to live with that it will become very necessary very soon.

      Been out of power and Internet since last Friday BTW, but I am back. Hope you missed me as much as I missed you guys.

    • Walter B March 8, 2018 at 4:05 pm #

      Sorry Doctor ZhivGonzo but I would argue that if the Russians actually DID interfere in what you call our “election” the possibilities are that they would have much improved the farce rather than detract from it. How can you call a choice between shit and shittier an election? Do you even think those who hold power even allow us, the idiots a voce in the first [place? After all America has a track record of “choosing” whichever idiot lies the best or the most, or is the pretties, younger of the two bad choices offered if they in fact DO choose. I cannot even recall being given a viable choice, oh that’s right, the guy they whacked , JFK, he was a real leader. Exactly why they murdered him.

      I would also like to ask why the Ruskies would have not preferred Hillary Clinton as president since she not only talked to them openly but sold them uranium for arms as well. You would think that this might have enamored the KGB to get her into a real position to sell out America.

      Another even more interesting point I would like to add would be that if any foreign power actually does interfere with the American “election” process, good for them, we have earned a reach around after all of the empire building and murder for profit that the US of A has perpetrated upon the nations of the World since 1945. What goes around comes around learn to live with that it will become very necessary very soon.

      Been out of power and Internet since last Friday BTW, but I am back. Hope you missed me as much as I missed you guys.

  2. Zoltar March 5, 2018 at 9:31 am #

    I actually feel slightly safer, knowing that Russia’s defenses make a U.S. attack unthinkable, because I prefer to believe that our leaders are not literally insane. (If they prove me wrong, the point will be moot quickly enough)

    Unfortunately, this new “missile gap” will warrant the Lords of War to demand yet another vast increase in our absurdly over-sized “defense” budget, and the public will be played like a dollar violin to get behind it.

    No one will dare point out that the Russians have no reason to want to invade us, or suggest that we really should tend our own garden.

    • Epicur March 5, 2018 at 11:22 am #

      “…or suggest that we really should tend our own garden.”

      The problem is that “our own garden” is dependent on the house of cards that is the “international cooperation” that keeps the financial Ponzi scheme stumbling along.

      Powerful natural forces are trying to trigger the collapse of the scheme and the only thing keeping it from doing so are monumental efforts of Central Banks and governments led by the USA and its Federal Reserve. That is why we will not “tend our own” until circumstances force us to do so.

      But the “garden” that was once a diversified, distributed, robust, system is now a gigantic interconnected monocultural field, dependent on the fiat of government for survival.

      We live in interesting times, and they will become even more so when “international cooperation (such as it is) breaks down.

    • mdl17576 March 5, 2018 at 1:01 pm #

      The USSR bankrupted itself trying to keep up with US military expansion. It would be fitting that it’s former rival eventually fell for the same reason.

  3. FincaInTheMountains March 5, 2018 at 9:35 am #

    Putin’s ultimatum and New York rumors

    The most interesting thing is that there is no rumors reagarding Putin’s ultimatum in New York.

    I was talking to everybody I know – Orthodox, Catholics, Anglicans, people may be far from geopolitics, but they are interested in ordinary politics, and none of them knew anything about Putin’s ultimatum.


    That is, they knew that Putin made some kind of anti-American speech in order to get the votes of anti-Americans in the upcoming elections in Russia, but they did not know anything specific.

    Even about the computer simulation presenting the attack of the nuclear warhead on the US Central Command in Florida, which all the same flashed in the American news at 7 am right after Putin’s speech, no one heard anything.

    It amazed me so much that I even called a man who, 25 years ago, contributed to my decision to part with physics and with whom we were discussing back then the American nuclear engine that appears to be very similar to the one that now gave Russia a decisive military advantage, but was scrapped by the Americans along with the Northrop Grumman anti-aircraft systems and almost built accelerator in California.

    He heard nothing.

    Nobody really heard anything, and there are even no rumors. Nobody heard anything at all!

    Except for one casual acquaintance who knew more than I did.

    In particular, he said that the list of Russia’s losses as a result of the collapse of the Soviet Union, announced by Putin in his speech, was a bill to the countries of the West for the damage they inflicted, having realized their military advantage in the early 80s, and which would have to be considered at the negotiations on military advantage of Russia now, if they take place.

    And he also explained to me the meaning of the term strategic deterrence, the practice of which always seemed to me a provocation, not a deterrent. It turned out that this is not a containment of the military threat from Russia, it is a means for restraining peaceful development of Russia by provoking a military conflict, such as the deployment of nuclear missiles in Turkey in the early 60’s or in Afghanistan in the late 70’s!

    Russian TV anchor Solovyov today in a conversation with the publisher of The National Interest, Dimitri Simes, said that it seems like the only way to break through the information blockade with the message of the danger of a hot, not cold war, is to use nuclear weapons in real life, and verbal warnings do not bother anyone, even if they’re voiced by a man with a red button in his hands.

    • Ol' Scratch March 5, 2018 at 10:35 am #

      I think the gen pop has finally reached the information overload stage. We hear it, but we don’t ascribe any meaning to it, nor long remember it afterward. Other than for the most rabid politicos, the MSM now operates in the region of greatly diminishing returns. Especially with the young, who weren’t exposed to the Red Scare the first time around, and so aren’t operating from their Pavlovian brain.

  4. Dumbedup March 5, 2018 at 9:37 am #

    There is an 8,000 lb. conundrum in the room. Trump cannot appear soft on Russia regardless of what he really thinks because the Deep State has it’s foot on his throat. So instead of meeting with Putin and trying to work out an effective strategy in the Middle East, and elsewhere, Trump and his team appear quixotic towards Russia. Meanwhile, we ramp up our defense spending and Russophobia.

    But there is more to Putin’s announcement than “nuclear war is unthinkable.” There are those in Russia who rue the demise of the USSR. Putin is one who remembers how the US strategy bankrupted the Soviet Union by the “Star Wars” defense initiative. Given our current deficits, trade imbalance and spending/budget problems Putin would like nothing better than to flip the table.

    • cbeard March 5, 2018 at 12:38 pm #

      Russia could be our best friend on the planet. As per Dumbedup, if Russia and the U.S. could work together on effective strategies in trouble spots around the world But that makes too much sense. Our leadership would rather foment regime change and turmoil around the world than to implement a sane foreign policy.

      • Dumbedup March 5, 2018 at 1:06 pm #

        Exactly! To me, Russophobia is tied up in feelings of inadequacy over the size of our manhood. But Russia has some of the same feelings so we go round ‘n round over who has the best (biggest) bombs. The second element is the fact that both have a profit motive attached to their military posturing. But someone has to say, “enough is enough” and call a meeting. But Trump would be impeached or assassinated if he were to do so, and for all we know Putin might face a similar predicament. The Russian-Trump collusion and meddling investigation is designed to prevent cooperation. That’s why it has lasted so long and will likely linger.

        Machismo and profit will keep a wedge between Russia-US cooperation.

      • Janos Skorenzy March 5, 2018 at 2:35 pm #

        Yes, the Great Northern Alliance of White Civilization against the Dark Hordes. Lindbergh was an early advocate for it. But even Trump’s ferocious defenders, like Hannity, fall completely back into Neo-Con hysteria when it comes to Russia. They deny any significant Russian meddling but still are desperate for them to be the Ultimate Enemy. It is most unfortunate. The Tribe (the core of the Neo Cons) thus has us coming and going. They hate Trump even as he serves Israel. Does he dare to defy them on making Russia into the new Nazi State? Probably not, at least not openly.

        • outsider March 5, 2018 at 9:23 pm #


          Hannity and the rest of them at FOX are Russia-hating neocons with one big exception – Tucker Carlson. Tucker has had Stephen Cohen and Tulsi Gabbard (among others) on his show several times. He has been so fair to Russia that crazed Adam Schiff said he must be working for Putin. He destroyed ultimate neocon Max Boot awhile back. In fact, Tucker strays so far off of the Fox plantation sometimes that it would not surprise me at all if he is fired, despite his good ratings. Of course, all they have to do is bribe a few women to say that he harassed them and his career would be over.

      • lsjogren March 5, 2018 at 3:08 pm #

        Much of Russiaphobia is probably due to the left and other Deep Staters being keenly aware that Russia is one of the few countries of the world that is not suckered by the bullshit of so-called progressivism.

        • jdhines March 5, 2018 at 3:50 pm #

          No, they spent close to 100 years being suckered by big red Communism.

        • GreenAlba March 6, 2018 at 5:47 am #

          Yes, Isjogren, the Russians have passed a law to reduce the penalties for domestic violence, when victims had little enough recourse to justice already. Not being able to abuse your wife and children with impunity is just too progressive for some people.

          And they have a law making it illegal to mention homosexuality in public, as if you could cancel a biological reality that has existed since time immemorial by refusing to countenance the word being spoken, which would be too ‘progressive’ for them. Magical thinking is something we associate with western societies but it seems the Russians go in for it too.

          Perhaps they – and you – would have preferred Alan Turing to have been jailed before he solved the Enigma code and the war could have dragged on a bit longer, so that millions more people could be killed, rather than him just being hounded afterwards until he killed himself at 42. Accepting reality is just too progressive for some people.

          • elysianfield March 6, 2018 at 11:05 am #

            Perhaps they – and you – would have preferred Alan Turing to have been jailed before he solved the Enigma code and the war could have dragged on a bit longer, so that millions more people could be killed, rather than him just being hounded afterwards until he killed himself at 42. Accepting reality is just too progressive for some people.

            Would you also suggest that J Edgar Hoover be similarly treated before he saved the US from the Red Menace?

            Don’t ask, don’t tell is right and proper. If you are driven to aberrant behavior, keep it to yourself.

          • GreenAlba March 6, 2018 at 11:15 am #


            Homosexual behaviour isn’t something that homosexuals are ‘driven to’ – it’s what comes as naturally to them as heterosexual behaviour comes to you.

            There have been homosexuals since there have been people. Homophobia, which includes giving yourself the right to tell homosexuals to keep their nature a secret, is simply arrogant ignorance, however you dress it up.

            And I don’t know why you’d think Alan Turing did anything other than try to keep it to himself, given that in those ignorant, benighted times, being your natural self was illegal.

            Why don’t you take it up with God for such an obvious design fault?

          • GreenAlba March 6, 2018 at 11:37 am #

            And why would I have any view whatsoever on J Edgar Hoover’s innate sexuality? It’s no wonder you folks can’t get on and solve genuine problems.

          • Elrond Hubbard March 6, 2018 at 12:22 pm #

            Homosexual behavior doesn’t only occur in humans — it’s all over the animal kingdom. Still, considering that evolution is real and preferring one’s own sex obviously tends toward leaving far fewer offspring, it’s only common sense to be curious why it exists at all.

            The answer is, living beings are complex, and none more so than humans; so the reasons why the common-sense assumption doesn’t hold are likely also complex, and there’s no single determinant. Here’s one interesting fact: the more older brothers a man has, the more likely he is to be gay. A current theory attributes this to maternal immunity. Male brain cells have a receptor which is coded by the Y chromosome, not present in females. So pregnant mothers’ immune systems can develop antibodies to these receptors when she first gets pregnant with a boy, and triggered again with each new male pregnancy. These antibodies can then affect the fetus, resulting in a baby who developed as male except for these particular receptors in their brain — thus, their brain doesn’t respond to certain signals for male development, but remains in a sense ‘female’ (which is the default development pattern for humans). Thus, a grown-up man who is sexually attracted to other men.

            If an outcome like this were all that terrible or aberrant, in the sense of threatening the future of the species, it would be rigorously selected against. Chocolate is poisonous to dogs, for example, but we love it and find it completely harmless. If it were poisonous to us as well, there’d be little need to moralize and denounce people who eat chocolate as deviants, since no one would want to in the first place (and anyone who did would clearly be a danger to themselves). Likewise, homosexuality doesn’t hurt anyone; it’s just different, and everyone just needs to chillax.

            Postscript: All this is the cue for certain people to jump in and conflate homosexuality with pedophilia. GreenAlba, I’ll bet you a nickel we both know who he/she/they are. Cheers!

          • Q. Shtik March 6, 2018 at 12:39 pm #

            homosexuality……. as if you could cancel a biological reality


            Do you actually think of homosexuality as biological? sort of like having two pituitary glands instead of one?

          • GreenAlba March 6, 2018 at 12:51 pm #


            I think you need to go back to class and find out what biology covers.

          • GreenAlba March 6, 2018 at 1:15 pm #

            Thanks for the link, Elrond. I hadn’t heard that before.

            And yes, re your postscript, it’s only a matter of time.

            There will be homophobic people who read this blog and who will end up having homosexual children or grandchildren. You have to wonder how they will treat them.

          • GreenAlba March 6, 2018 at 1:23 pm #

            And, incidentally, I’m not remotely Russophobic, just because they have a lot of neanderthals among them that like beating up gays and their own wives. You don’t encourage people to improve their behaviour by isolating them.

            Even if they have a tendency to periodically bump off their own nationals on your soil.



          • GreenAlba March 6, 2018 at 1:42 pm #

            Neanderthals was the wrong word, given that they possibly died out because they were gentler than us.

          • elysianfield March 6, 2018 at 6:58 pm #

            “Homosexual behaviour isn’t something that homosexuals are ‘driven to’ – it’s what comes as naturally to them as heterosexual behaviour comes to you”

            …And you know this because…?

            God doesn’t speak to me…and I don’t speak to him.

            I did not say it was a design flaw…I said that aberrant behavior should be kept to oneself….it is a question of culture…what is aberrant in our culture is attempting to be made mainstream. I am not being judgmental…please re-read my statement.

          • GreenAlba March 6, 2018 at 7:28 pm #


            I’ve read your statement and it’s judgemental. You’re calling something aberrant when it’s not aberrant to that person. Homosexuality is only aberrant in the way that albinism is aberrant. Perhaps albinos should hide themselves away lest they make some people feel uncomfortable.

            “…And you know this because…?”

            I know this because it is a biological fact.

            If you and God are not acquainted you have even less excuse for such silliness.

            Maybe what you really mean is that you don’t like ostentatious displays of sexual behaviour in public. There I’m with you – I’m not a big fan of heterosexual couples eating each other’s faces in public. But I live and let live, and walk by. And if people of either persuasion just want to give each other a peck on the lips and hold hands, only the terminally insecure could have a problem with that.

          • elysianfield March 6, 2018 at 11:28 pm #

            “I’ve read your statement and it’s judgmental. You’re calling something aberrant when it’s not aberrant to that person. Homosexuality is only aberrant in the way that albinism is aberrant.”

            The culture from which we spring is the arbiter of what is aberrant…not the person choosing the open display. The human mind has the ability to justify ANY act or outrage…hence the pederasts you suggest, and their organization of justification…NAMBLA. Open displays of behavior that are counter-cultural are an attempt to gain legitimacy…acceptance. My suggestion that they just shut the fu@k up and keep their affairs private you have found objectionable…perhaps you enjoy the street-theater aspect of various deviancies? Does it make you proud to explain why Jessica has two mommies to your grandchildren? Do they want two mommies also? Yes, you will love them and support them regardless…but is this what you…want?

          • GreenAlba March 7, 2018 at 5:26 am #

            At no point in the above did I mention pederasty. But I’m not surprised at your devious introduction of it into the conversation.

            “perhaps you enjoy the street-theater aspect of various deviancies? ”

            Right, so you didn’t even read my post properly.

            And we’re not talking about Jessica’s two mommies, which is a different issue altogether. We’re talking about the existence of homosexuality since forever, which is a biological given that you just can’t get your head around.

            What I ‘want’ is neither here not there.

          • Dumbedup March 7, 2018 at 9:57 am #

            The world is heterogeneous, but Russia is an internally homogeneous (few minorities) and conservative society. As a closed society, it demonizes and marginalizes progressive ideas. America has always aspired to be the same, but has flirted at times with liberal and progressive ideas. Especially in Universities and among the young. Those voices are being drowned out by an aging and intolerant citizenry. Progressive societies tend to accept each other and work together while conservative societies are suspicious and compete with each other. That “fear” of what is different usually leads to war.

            The answer is for good people everywhere to insist that the world’s leadership find common ground.

          • GreenAlba March 7, 2018 at 10:56 am #

            Absolutely, Dumbed up.

            There is no conflict in my mind from the following combination of points:

            (a) I do not want a repeat of the cold war with Russia (I was here for the first one) and therefore want diplomatic ties and co-operation with that country to be as robust as possible;

            (b) I am nevertheless aware that people, in my country at least, have had to be warned before sporting events in that country that there are some unsavoury elements there who will happily kick the living shit out of any foreign visitors they think are gay; likewise I am aware that some of those elements and others are likely to go home from those sporting events and beat the living shit out of their wives and children; warnings have likewise had to be given about these elements also being entirely intolerant of the crime of watching a sporting event while black;

            (c) Various individuals, including those under the orders of Uncle Vlad, have murdered their own citizens in my country on more than one occasion.

            Now, my problem, which started this conversation, is that a poster admires the lack of ‘progressivism’ that ultimately leads to (b). I call bullshit on anyone whose idea of conservatism and dislike of ‘progressives’ makes them prefer (b) to having a civilised situation where the word ‘homosexual’ can be spoken in the public arena. Let’s just say they have a hierarchy of values that I will never share. And I’m pretty socially conservative by the norms of any country other than the US.

            Some posters from the US seem not to be too far away in their heads from those Ayatollas who blamed flooding on homosexuality.

            My view is to hope that rapprochement between countries where beating the living shit out of gays, or wives, girlfriends and children has a certain amount of social approval (by men, obviously) and those where it doesn’t can affect things for the better in the longer term. Call me optimistic; call me naive; but that’s my hope.

          • GreenAlba March 7, 2018 at 11:15 am #

            any *western* country other than the US…

          • Elrond Hubbard March 7, 2018 at 1:27 pm #

            elysianfield: “what is aberrant in our culture is attempting to be made mainstream. I am not being judgmental…”

            First he speaks, then he contradicts himself, all in a single breath. Calling something ‘aberrant’ is judgmental — prove me wrong.

            elysianfield: “The culture from which we spring is the arbiter of what is aberrant…not the person choosing the open display.”

            Whether this is correct or not, the culture has spoken — and elysianfield‘s side has lost. Read the words:

            “Far from seeking to devalue marriage, the petitioners seek it for themselves because of their respect—and need—for its privileges and responsibilities. And their immutable nature dictates that same-sex marriage is their only real path to this profound commitment. …

            “No union is more profound than marriage, for it embodies the highest ideals of love, fidelity, devotion, sacrifice, and family. In forming a marital union, two people become something greater than once they were. As some of the petitioners in these cases demonstrate, marriage embodies a love that may endure even past death. It would misunderstand these men and women to say they disrespect the idea of marriage. Their plea is that they do respect it, respect it so deeply that they seek to find its fulfillment for themselves. Their hope is not to be condemned to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilization’s oldest institutions. They ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right.

            “The judgment of the Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit is reversed. It is so ordered.”


            The U.S. Supreme Court didn’t reach that decision before the culture did. It was the culture that changed, and the court followed. Again, prove me wrong.

            elysianfield: “I said that aberrant behavior should be kept to oneself.”

            This statement is moot. As I laid out above, the issue has already been decided the other way. The U.S. already decided many years ago that “separate but equal” isn’t a fit standard for a free society, and that decision still stands.

          • elysianfield March 7, 2018 at 6:15 pm #



            adjective: aberrant

            departing from an accepted standard.

            diverging from the normal type.
            “aberrant chromosomes”

            “First he speaks, then he contradicts himself, all in a single breath. Calling something ‘aberrant’ is judgmental — prove me wrong.”

            the term “aberrant” is descriptive…not judgmental. I would expect that you, speaking the Queen’s English”, would know better…at least I did expect you would. Don’t bet the ranch, or Igloo, or whatever you have in Canada on this argument.

            ““The judgment of the Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit is reversed. It is so ordered”

            The court does not define the culture, it defines the law…and sometimes, sir, the law is an ass….

          • Elrond Hubbard March 7, 2018 at 7:10 pm #

            elysianfield: In place of one word (‘aberrant’), you’ve simply substituted several more (‘accepted’, ‘standard’, ‘normal’) that also entail the exercise of judgment while denying that they do so. Don’t bother, I’m tired of this silliness.

            As for your remark about the Supreme Court, that’s just a sour-grapes acknowledgment that what I said was accurate: the court ratified a decision of the popular will. Suck it up, peaches.

          • elysianfield March 8, 2018 at 11:25 am #


            “the court ratified a decision of the popular will. Suck it up, peaches”

            You posted this? That our Supreme Court uses the popular will to divine their decisions?

            Your position is a mockery of your obvious intellect.

          • Elrond Hubbard March 8, 2018 at 12:31 pm #

            Laws are written by human beings, not handed down from on high. Therefore they’re an expression of human goals and human values. This holds no matter how much legalism goes into their drafting or their interpretation — something about them is always arbitrary (where arbitrium means the exercise of individual, idiosyncratic judgement and power of decision). Something about them always comes down to, “because I said so”. That’s inevitable.

            Meanwhile people live their lives, they think and feel, and sometimes they change their minds. Over a course of decades, the values of the society changed (or at least the prevailing values, held by a majority of the society). They changed from rejecting homosexuality to accepting it. The society went from denying gays any place in society, to providing them one. Instead of leaving them out in the cold, they invited gays to come on up to the house. I welcome this development, while you don’t, but in this case I win because this has been decided the way these things get decided. The Supreme Court is empowered — by the supreme law of the land, the constitution — to say “Because I said so”, and that’s that. (I personally don’t live under U.S. law; I live in an igloo, apparently. But still.)

            This cuts both ways. In 2008, the Supreme Court in District of Columbia v. Heller held for the first time in history that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to own firearms, independent of any consideration of a well-ordered militia. Let’s keep in mind that the wording of the second amendment strongly suggests that it’s about a public purpose (the security of a free state, etc.). Yet the majority in that case concerted a new, private right to bear arms that previously never existed. I personally consider this so-called private right to reflect an extremist view which I reject, but that makes no difference; this issue has been decided the way these things get decided. So I have to suck it up too. (That, and breathe a word of thanks to Isaac Brock.)

        • Dumbedup March 6, 2018 at 11:59 am #

          Neo-cons and Neo-liberals are both fomenting Russophobia in the media. It’s one of the few drums they have to beat. It pays the bills too. But it also blurs distinctions.

          Neo-cons and neo-liberals are guided by money and power. That, I believe, arises from misguided Randian notions of morality and capitalism. True conservatives and liberals subscribe to principles and beliefs about human nature, God and man’s destiny. Ultimately, they strive for the same thing (freedom, equality, happiness and responsibility) but believe the path is different.

  5. JohnAZ March 5, 2018 at 9:41 am #

    Do we or do we not have free elections in the USA? Who exactly has the right to influence us as voters, conversely who do we block from sending us information on how to vote? If Russia is meddling to try to disrupt our election process , it is the division sown in this country that shows they are succeeding. I keep having a vision of Putin and his gang laughing their keisters off at us worrying about things that do not make a whit. James Comey’s switcheroo , ten days before the election, made a thousand percent more impact on how the rust belt voted in the election. Besides, deteriorating economics in the rust belt is why the citizens of Gotham City, Michigan voted for the Caped Crusader in the first place. Dems, if you want to figure out a way to stop Batman, come up with better ideas than him!

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    • bhnj13 March 6, 2018 at 12:03 am #

      what we saw in 2016 was the first weaponization of social media and we had no defense for it. its propaganda by a new medium and its very effective. we’re still basically defenseless so anybody with enough bots, time and desire could theoretically influence our elections. we will hopefully, eventually come up with a defense.
      as for the dems and ideas – they dont have any, there’s no leadership there. theyre playing a game of demographics not of solutions

      • JustSaying March 6, 2018 at 6:58 am #

        Maybe US citizens could reduce their addiction to social media. Or maybe they can question what they read. That’s what I do.

  6. Ludwig Beck March 5, 2018 at 9:43 am #

    The regime-change phase is over. Syria destroyed itself. Assad is no threat to anyone. Iran is boxed-in, surrounded with no powerful friends. Putin only uses Iran to poke at the US.

    Iran distrusts everybody, including Russia historically. Iran is no threat to anybody.

    There are no nations left to invade.

    Russia is also no threat to anyone except maybe Ukraine. Putin’s history with Georgia, Chechnya, Ukraine, Crimea, and the cynical adventure in Syria puts gives the lie to the assertion that Russia is somehow the good guy balancing an aggressive American Empire.

    Peace is about to break out just as we start to run out of oil.

    • JohnAZ March 5, 2018 at 9:54 am #

      You have got it! Oil! Russia has backed what they conceive is the visitor in the Shia-Sunni conflict in the ME. To swing influence in the production of oil, which yes, we still need the Sunni component. Frackers will never produce enough oil to fill in our deficit. Israel is a religious sidelight for the zealots on both sides to what their appetites on. Russia knows our biggest weakness and will do what they can to make the best next move in the chess game.

      • JohnAZ March 5, 2018 at 9:55 am #

        Victor, not visitor.

    • ozone March 5, 2018 at 11:03 am #

      Ludwig von Becktoven,
      You write:
      “There are no nations left to invade.”

      If this be true (and I get your point in that it’s hardly a productive path forward, even for the sainted USofA), then I implore you to hie thee to the sacred think-towers of D.C. and convince the delusional and patently insane Neo-cons of this.
      BTW, I don’t believe for a New York nano-second that their plans have anything to do with “the betterment of mankind”. It’s about who controls the cream-skimming operations.

      The days of America as the paragon of moral rectitude and exemplar of truth and justice are long past. It’s now time to pull in the horns and tend to out own knitting. (Or mind our own goddamn business, if you wish.) …Unless we’d like our meddling hands removed at the wrist. Not something I’d recommend.

      What the Russkies figured out (which wasn’t a huge leap of intellect), was that they needed a cheaper way to develop weapons defenses, so as to not drain what little was left of their economic wherewithal after the Great Looting. Missile Tech fits that bill to a ‘T’. As America threw is wealth away on fattening the corporate manufacturers of whiz-bang offensive systems, the Russians continued with much cheaper missile upgrades that made the whiz and bang obsolete before they even got off the drafting table.

      Guess the decision was made to make an effective defense/deterrent rather than financing boondoggles for the benefit of stockholders. Smarter. (Adversity tends to focus the mind. Will Americans abandon their delusions when their turn at nationwide deprivation comes, or will they double down on bullshit? A very important question that needs some serious study in this land of convenience-above-all.)

      • Ludwig Beck March 5, 2018 at 1:13 pm #

        I believe that the foreign policy of the United States, independent of what some believe (erroneously, in my opinion) to be that of Israel, or “The Deep State,” or the “neo-cons” – is to actively ensure the long-term export of oil from the Persian Gulf to its allies and friends that depend on that oil (Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, Europe) AND to China.

        The United States as part of the North American energy block is for all intents and purposes energy independent.

        Russia and Saudi Arabia (I include the Sunni-led Gulf States) are the only producing players with plausible long-term exportable surplus. China is the only consuming player big enough where if they don’t get a steady flow of oil they are going to be unhappy AND it will also effect the rest of the world economically.

        India is a weird one.

        Iraq has potential as a stable long-term exporter.

        The Trillion-dollar annual US Military budget is basically about letting the Saudis know that that is our oil buried under their sand.

        They can sell it for whatever price they want, they can do whatever they want with the proceeds, they can run their country any way they want. But it is the United States who discovered that oil and has protected them Since FDR met with the old man Saud on the USS Quincy, Valentine’s Day, 1945.

        As long as everybody understands that, there won’t be any problems.

        We only rattle our sabre at Iran to keep everybody on their toes.

        As we (If we) start to slide down the back side of Hubbert’s Curve, Africa won’t be able to afford oil. At this point that’s the only thing I will venture to predict.

        It was expected (incorrectly as it turns out) that regime change would be followed by relative stability relatively shortly following both Iraq and Libya. It wasn’t the intention, as some profess, to create chaos.

        Regardless, there are literally no countries left to invade.

        • ozone March 5, 2018 at 2:55 pm #

          “It was expected (incorrectly as it turns out) that regime change would be followed by relative stability relatively shortly following both Iraq and Libya. It wasn’t the intention, as some profess, to create chaos.”

          Who is it that would benefit from this whole procedure (regardless of stability, chaos or hundreds of thousands of deaths), and besides Iraq, Libya (with Yemen well on the way) in the, “oops – destroyed” column, why is the same exact target being painted on Iran? Your sweet and serene motives don’t fit the facts on the ground (nor the ‘boots’). Or would you prefer we think you as clueless and filled with gawd-given hubris as George Bush the Lesser?

          …as some profess… lol
          Now *I* believe that you’re propagating just another bright and shining LIE. Mission Accomplished. I’ll keep my cynicism. Even if mistaken, me and mine will prove better armed for the coming contractions.

          Regarding this:
          “The Trillion-dollar annual US Military budget is basically about letting the Saudis know that that is our oil buried under their sand.”

          Okay, if this is the case, shouldn’t we find this arrangement more than a tad bizarre… perhaps even antiquated? “It’s under your land, but I found it, so by extension, I get to control it.”

          “The United States as part of the North American energy block is for all intents and purposes energy independent.”

          Does the phrase, “for all intents and purposes” mean the same as, “in reality”? Or is it just a way of saying, “It’s generally agreed”? If the latter, I’m not in agreement and [rightly or wrongly] will prepare accordingly. However, you’re certainly welcome to your warm and snuggly cocoon where all will be provided for right-thinking folk forever and ever, amen. Enjoy!

          • Ludwig Beck March 5, 2018 at 5:02 pm #

            You are fabricating a bunch of straw man arguments. Warm and snuggly? I think not.

            The United States consumes about 20 million barrels of oil a day. One quarter of total global production.

            It only gets about 3 million barrels a day from places other than Canada and Mexico. And those places are West Africa (very close) and the Persian Gulf. If those 3 million barrels a day were suddenly and unexpectedly cut off, it would be a full 60 days before that supply was actually missing from gas tanks on American roads. The price of oil would go up, but not in apocalyptic terms.

            I’ve been reading Clusterfuck Nation for a LONG time.

            The predictions of war with Iran and “the same exact target being painted,” as you say, have been bandied about since at least 2005. I know that outside of CFN those predictions have been made since the late 1990s.

            They were bullshit then. They are bullshit now. In the meantime, Libya happened. Nobody on CFN was predicting Libya in 2008. Get real.

            My comments regarding our oil under their sand are not meant literally. We don’t need to ponder international law or make a federal case out of it. Lighten up.

          • ozone March 5, 2018 at 9:07 pm #

            Wow! A whole 2 months grace period before folks start pointing pistols at each other to assure their place in the gas-n-go line. No worries then.

            “My comments regarding our oil under their sand are not meant literally. We don’t need to ponder international law or make a federal case out of it. Lighten up.”

            As you might expect, I beg to differ. There are a *world* of reasons to soberly ponder international law (and who that actually represents) and make the federal cases that have not been made in order to avoid discomforting the extremely comfortable string-pullers. Heavy down; when the goodies get scarce, things will no longer be “ponderable”… they’ll just be downright dangerous.

          • Ludwig Beck March 6, 2018 at 10:18 am #

            Haha. But until you find one of those reasons reason enough for you to actually do something, you’ll be content to beg to differ on Jim’s blog. Got it.

            The current global population of 7.6 billion in its state of overall relative peace is only sustainable with the stable, secure flow of 81 million barrels of oil a day, roughly half of which moves by tankers going to and from the Persian Gulf.

            This situation existed long before Bush invaded Iraq in 2003 and before the US started causing so much resentment in the Middle East.

            It’s roots go back to Churchill and Fisher converting the British Navy from coal to oil.


            The oil the British needed was mainly in Iran for the next 60 years.

            This is not a CIA/Israel/neocon conspiracy.

            You cannot see daylight between the policies of the Bush administration and those of Obama, or Trump for that matter. Nobody cared during the Clinton years because oil was pre-peak and the only one paying attention was Daniel Yergin.

            As much of a horrible person Dick Cheney was, even those in the peak-oil community saw that he was one of the few who understood these issues.

            The Tanker War in the 80s and the 1st Gulf War were all about this.

            That consistent, rarely talked-about, policy – referred to usual ly as “Energy Security” has as its primary purpose the prevention of people pulling pistols on each other in gas-lines in the United States.

        • lsjogren March 5, 2018 at 3:14 pm #

          I would agree there are no countries to invade from the standpoint of there being any benefit to the US or another nation to invade any other country at this particular point in world history

          However, just because it makes no sense to invade doesn’t mean there aren’t fools out there who would love to do so. Yes, I am talking about the neocons.

          And of course, the neocons are now buddies with the progressives, since they share a common hatred of Trump.

          • lsjogren March 5, 2018 at 3:17 pm #

            The relevance of the coziness between neocons and progressives is as follows:

            Neocons have no grassroots constituency, and would simply be a bunch of faux-eggheads serving as senior fellows at senior fellow institutes, except for their being buddies with the progressives.

            Unlike neoconservatism, progressivism is a genuine political movement with genuine grassroots support. The fact that they have taken the neocons under their wing means that the neocons cannot be written off as totally impotent.

          • outsider March 5, 2018 at 9:36 pm #


            Until such time as the NWO Globalists achieve their goal of One World Government, there will always be countries to invade. Even then the Global mercenary army will be constantly called upon to keep putting out the independence brushfires before they spread.

        • JustSaying March 6, 2018 at 7:01 am #

          The DOD is the largest consumer of oil on the planet. No oil, no empire.

      • elysianfield March 6, 2018 at 11:17 am #

        “that made the whiz and bang obsolete before they even got off the drafting table”

        And who is to say that their new “technology” is not still on the drafting table…is not vaporware?

        In this age of technology, we, our satellites, our agents, our ability to track anything in the skies in real time, we didn’t see the tests? Putin, when questioned regarding the hardware, waffled regarding it’s current ability to be deployed…mostly “humma ,humma humma”.

        What concerns me is why he felt he needed to rattle his saber…why now, and to what purpose?

        His presentation seemed to be akin to “whistling past a graveyard in the night….”

  7. Ludwig Beck March 5, 2018 at 9:51 am #

    Also, the best “independent,” “alternative,” “non-mainstream,” and informative coverage of Russia comes from UNZ.com

    I’m waiting for Ron Unz to pick up Jim as a writer there.

    a href=”http://www.unz.com/article/the-implications-of-russias-new-weapons/”>http://www.unz.com/article/the-implications-of-russias-new-weapons/

    • snarkmatic9000 March 5, 2018 at 10:43 am #

      That Martyanov piece is a delusional crock, typical of those still pining for the good ol’ Soviet days but stuck in an economy that’s into an ineluctable dive straight into the ground.

      • snarkmatic9000 March 5, 2018 at 10:56 am #

        I’d add that since our own and everyone else’s economy is also headed for the dumpster, the inexorable process of which Jim has elucidated better than just about anyone, it’s all moot in any event since we’ll all be fighting with rocks and sticks once our stockpiles of .223s and MIRVs are exhausted.

        • Janos Skorenzy March 5, 2018 at 2:38 pm #

          You should have said Lord Jim.

          • lsjogren March 5, 2018 at 3:20 pm #

            Works for me. How about the jimbo ticket for 2020?

            James Woods for President, James Kunstler for Vice President.

          • Q. Shtik March 5, 2018 at 5:39 pm #

            Have you ever read Lord Jim by Joseph Conrad? It’s one of my 10 Greatest Books collection.

          • K-Dog March 7, 2018 at 3:13 am #

            To understand Jim’ predicament one must have transgressed and have had a moment of moral failure. A moment which haunts one as a sad story without an end. Jim’s failure was a momentary abrogation of a responsibility to self-sacrifice for which he must atone.

            It was a story that made sense a hundred years ago. Now responsibility is not abrogated, it is simply not embraced at all. What is not picked up can not be put down.

            Lord Jim spent his life trying to be a man and shoulder the responsibility of being a man. Now many avoid being men by embracing sexually confusion, all responsibility is thus avoided.

      • Ludwig Beck March 5, 2018 at 1:17 pm #

        I completely agree about Martyanov. You should make that same comment on his article. I can’t be bothered. He thinks very highly of himself. He has also lived in Washington D.C. for 20 years. You can’t make this stuff up.

  8. bukowskisghost March 5, 2018 at 9:54 am #

    The only folks who really trust what the NYT says these days are the gray haired middle aged ladies in red framed glasses who frequent the MOMA in NYC and have way more more money than brains. The days of the public believing the MSM are long gone. The PTB are pathetically trying to resurrect the red scare. We’re really not going to fall for it again unless they start putting surreal tail fins on American cars again, then all bets are off for everything .

    • sprawlcapital March 5, 2018 at 10:32 am #

      unless they start putting surreal tail fins on American cars again
      Interesting that you should mention the late 1950s craze for tail fins on autos. Today, the manufacturers from all the major car producing countries have figured out how to make cars that are as grotesquely ugly as a 1959 Cadillac ever was, without adding fins. Yet, just as in 1959, Americans buy them without protest. We are a nation of groupthink. Follow the trend, no matter how stupid. It does not bode well.

      I still admire the 1992 – 96 Camry, a modern, aerodynamic, functional vehicle that is attractive, even beautiful, and which has the highest quality and reliability perhaps ever achieved in a mass-produced car. Japanese car design quality has fallen off a cliff since the mid-90s.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 5, 2018 at 2:41 pm #

      No, the Cat Ladies are a huge demographic. They all aspire to be where and as you describe – even if they are welfare mothers in a double wide in Kansas. Academia is simply a way to produce more Cat Lady voters for the Democratic Party. Women’s studies is the path toward initiation into the Cult and “Party Membership”.

      • daveed March 5, 2018 at 10:45 pm #

        Is there a clinical term for the fear of ‘cat ladies’ (or ‘gray haired middle aged ladies in red framed glasses who frequent the MOMA…’)?

  9. robert magill March 5, 2018 at 10:03 am #

    Edward Bernays, who was Sigmund Freud’s nephew, was the god-father of “Engineering of Consent”, that became in our time what Noam Chomsky called ” Manufacturing Consent”. Actually this is simply a propaganda technique which has been successful beyond anyone’s darkest dreams.

    A century of this dire skill, polished and honed, has produced several generations of Americans unable to think clearly beyond media prompting. Something which the media is only to happy to supply endlessly.

    Bernays had long advocated public opinion be scientifically manipulated to advance self interest. He was a driving force in the first part of the 20th century in advertising and is known as an early advocate of the concept of ‘public relations’. As an assistant to President Woodrow Wilson, Bernays was instrumental in selling the war to a resistant public by such jingoistic tropes as “bringing Democracy to all of Europe”.

    He counted “manipulation of the masses” as essential to promoting Democracy until Fascism in Europe used the same techniques. Because the Germans in World War I used the term propaganda, Bernays promoted the phrase “Public Relations” as an alternate.

    Bernays daughter Anne in a BBC interview said her father felt the public’s democratic judgment was”not to be relied upon” and “they could very easily vote for the wrong man or want the wrong thing.” His own judgment left much to be desired apparently.

    Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, in correspondence with president Roosevelt, cited Bernays and Ivy Lee, who authored the term ‘Public Relations’, as “professional poisoners of the public mind, exploiters of foolishness, fanaticism and self-interest”.

    If any of this old stuff seems dated Kunstler’s take will bring you right up to speed.  The American psyche has become delusional now.

    • Elrond Hubbard March 5, 2018 at 11:56 am #

      Whether it’s dated or not, it’s certainly not out-of-date — these issues are perennial. Understanding the history of advertising and public relations* is an essential part of political and media literacy. And because credit should be given where it’s due, I’ll just point out that it was Walter Lippmann who coined the term ‘manufacture of consent‘. The late Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky picked up the idea and ran with it in their essential book with a similar title.

      * ‘Public relations’ and ‘propaganda’ are exact synonyms. Wherever you encounter one of these terms, you can substitute the other with no distortion or loss of meaning. “The greatest trick the devil ever pulled…”

      • Janos Skorenzy March 5, 2018 at 3:04 pm #

        These things are just the megaphone for your leftist nonsense and hysteria; the Lever by which you seek to move the World and push it into the slime pits at the edge of existence….

    • Janos Skorenzy March 5, 2018 at 3:02 pm #

      Probably just envy on Felix’s part. Government has long since appropriated these methods and Corporations and the Feds form an Aristocracy of Interest and Phalanx of Pull at this point. A Plutocracy in other words, where the Feds serve their Private Masters in exchange for wealth, power, and prestige.

    • JustSaying March 6, 2018 at 7:04 am #

      Yes, the Republicans have always been crazy but the Democrats are completely unhinged. I think they are more dangerous at this point.

  10. FincaInTheMountains March 5, 2018 at 10:10 am #

    Russia does not pursue the objective of destroying the United States. Russia’s actions are dictated by only one cause–to pull a gun on a drunk, rowdy, knife wielding bully in the bar and get him to pay attention to what others may have to say. In other words, Russia brought the gun to a knife fight and it seems that this is the only way to deal with the United States today.



    But I’d still add to that a bill for the broken dishes in Ukraine and elsewhere.

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    • Ol' Scratch March 5, 2018 at 10:24 am #

      Great link, providing a great summation! Let’s hope some of the Generals talk sense to the pols and they actually listen for once. But I wouldn’t bet on any of that.

  11. Ol' Scratch March 5, 2018 at 10:13 am #

    Goddamn it, THERE WILL BE ANSWERS! To the waterboards, Robin!

    We have officially degenerated to 60’s comic book camp!

    • JohnAZ March 5, 2018 at 10:57 am #

      Ha, you devil you.

      When 50% of the tripe they put into the theatres today is related to a super hero solving the world’s problems, the populace thinks this will solve all their problems. Hence Trump equals Gotham’s Batm to a world looking for instant solutions.

  12. davidreese2 March 5, 2018 at 10:14 am #

    Surely no one has taken the New York Times seriously since it promulgated the lies upon which the Iraq invasion was launched.

  13. wm5135 March 5, 2018 at 10:28 am #

    After a weeks travel from Northwest Florida to the Everglades and back I am pretty sure about this:

    Ignorance is Knowledge

    • pequiste March 5, 2018 at 2:05 pm #

      And don’t forget to include that – Stupidity is Strength.

  14. manysummits March 5, 2018 at 10:38 am #

    I keep wondering why I am apparently addicted to all the bad news?

    Is it possible that most people are simply too wrapped up in day to day survival (precariats), or career advancement (yuppies), and are effectively ‘hors de combat’ politically – read:

    ‘zero-summers’ instead of tribalists in the good sense of being one for all and all for one ??

    Social, in other words, and realists, recognizing that it is only a matter of time before we are all drawn in to a Syrian type existence ???

  15. PeteAtomic March 5, 2018 at 10:39 am #

    Fake posters on the internet & the hiring of an actor to dress up like HRC in a prison outfit.

    Is our democracy really that fragile to be concerned with this nonsense?

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    • ozone March 5, 2018 at 11:17 am #

      That’s what our ‘intelligence’ agencies would have us all believe, so that they might keep their copious funding and positions of influence.

      I do assume that, underneath the crust of bullshit that has been heaped upon us, there are yet some with a modicum of common sense still extant.

  16. pequiste March 5, 2018 at 10:40 am #

    The military theory of Mutual Assured Destruction* needs to add, at minimum, four more axes for the contemporary equation. Namely, that of the Chinese PLA forces, those of the nascent world power India, the whole complex of Islamic vs Israeli detestations, plus rogue state (e.g.Best Korea) and non-state viz. ISIS, Hezbullah….actors.

    *(I cannot even imagine what the Puzzle Palace players with their A.G.I. and Quantuum computers are figuring on.)

    Speaking of actors; in light of last night’s Academy Award marathon; what we, movie-addled and video-addicted Americans (and all other cinephiles around the world) need, at this particular juncture, to ensure comprehension of the bizarreness, ridiculousness and insanity of the geopolitical situation is: some genius writer/director to make the definitive remake of Saint Stanley Kubrick’s blackest satire “Dr. Strangelove.”

    Alec Baldwin could make an over-the-top, hence splendid, DJT.

    And while the performance of legendary Peter Sellers could never be replicated, I think that Gary Oldman or Joachim Phoenix would knock ’em dead as the good doctor himself.


    • wm5135 March 5, 2018 at 10:53 am #

      pequiste I have long thought that a better theory would be “AGD” – assured global destruction. In this scenario not a single shot would be fired at the antagonist. The object would be to render every object of desire unobtainable and leave the “victor” in sole possesion of their folly. Perverse I know, but how to reason with the unreasonable.

    • elysianfield March 5, 2018 at 11:36 am #

      I cannot even imagine what the Puzzle Palace players with their A.G.I. and Quantum computers are figuring on.”

      You are correct. None of us on this site are privy to actual events, threats, or desired responses to our country’s actions. We do not only not understand the current issues in the game, we don’t even understand the rules. We think we do…but our access to actual information in which decisions are currently being made at the national level is scant…superficial, and usually manipulated. Our rending of hair and screaming at the Heavens is…simplistic…cathartic, perhaps. We filter our opinions through a moral/cultural sieve that a government need not concern themselves with…and doesn’t.

      “What is important is to know what you don’t know”…Ol’ Rummie

      • beantownbill. March 5, 2018 at 1:58 pm #

        EF, you are so right! We know nuttin’ ( or almost nuttin’).

      • RocketDoc March 5, 2018 at 3:05 pm #

        That is so true. I played tennis last night with a “security analyst” on the Arsenal for the DoD. I told him, why is everything I need to know as a citizen classified so I am unable to actually decide whether you should have a job or not?

  17. PeteAtomic March 5, 2018 at 10:47 am #

    “Lt. Gen. Paul Nakasone, the nominee to run the National Security Agency and United States Cyber Command, acknowledged that plans were in place to strike back at Moscow for its election hacking. Those actions would require Mr. Trump’s approval.”

    from the NYT article there from Jim’s OP…

    first off the Russians didn’t “hack” our election. That’s a complete lie right there. I’m amazed they can write this stuff. Maybe a CIA handler helped write this article, who knows.

    An appropriate reply to the Russians would be to do the same thing to them as they did in our election– hire an actor to play Putin in some Russian district, and create fake profiles.

    It’s all ridiculous. You’d think 10 year olds were behind all this.

    • ozone March 5, 2018 at 12:04 pm #

      “First off the Russians didn’t “hack” our election. That’s a complete lie right there. I’m amazed they can write this stuff. Maybe a CIA handler helped write this article, who knows.”

      Pete, that’s quite likely. Here’s a bit of slipperiness from ages past. (Of course, “They” don’t indulge in these shenanigans any more. …Yeah, right! 😉 ) If you have the correct jingoist attitude, the fact that you can only reason at a 10 year old level matters little. Sign ’em up! They’re all “analysts” now!

      “Operation Mockingbird was a secret campaign by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to influence media. Begun in the 1950s, it was initially organized by Cord Meyer and Allen W. Dulles, it was later led by Frank Wisner after Dulles became the head of the CIA.

      The organization recruited leading American journalists into a network to help present the CIA’s views, and funded some student and cultural organizations, and magazines as fronts. As it developed, it also worked to influence foreign media and political campaigns, in addition to activities by other operating units of the CIA.” – The Black Vault


  18. PeteAtomic March 5, 2018 at 10:52 am #

    The socialist republic of Minnesota’s government radio, aka MPR has a radio cast called “How Russia Is Hacking American Elections”


    It’s interesting that this program is on MPR, which makes sense because the Russians were targeting liberals.

    “Russia and information warfare expert Molly McKew of Fianna Strategies is involved in work to educate Americans on how to recognize Russian propaganda online and in their social media feeds.
    “We probably need to develop a little more cynicism in how we are viewing and consuming information,” McKew said. “The question is much harder than, ‘Is this true or not?’ It is, ‘What is the purpose of this information?'””

    So, Americans are gullible, stupid people who can not think for themselves. They need an “intelligence expert” and “reality experts” to tell them what is real or fake.

    🙂 wow

  19. volodya March 5, 2018 at 10:58 am #

    One of the unanticipated consequences of this ludicrous “Russia hacking” story is that it built up Putin’s reputation in the view of a lot of Russians. Russian supporters of Putin bought into elite American talking-points, that with a small amount of money, with so very few people, Putin swung the election in Trump’s favor. Putin must be laughing his ass off.

    Apparently, just as in the US, there’s a lot of people in Russia willingly suspending their critical faculties and willingly believing the unbelievable.

    • PeteAtomic March 5, 2018 at 11:09 am #

      What is also amazing about this whole thing is that this is a conspiracy theory advanced by the US government.

      Think about that. An officially sanctioned conspiracy theory by the US government. It’s amazing.

      • volodya March 5, 2018 at 11:48 am #

        There’s no end of astounding stuff: 1) that the Steele Dossier and the money trail points to the Democrats colluding with Russians 2) evidence pointing to an insider downloading DNC emails 3) the American establishment backing the straight-as-a-corkscrew Clintons

        You could go on and on. The irrationality of so much that’s happened over the last two generations is truly mind-boggling, the Vietnam debacle, offshoring of American manufacturing might to a despotic foreign regime, the blaming of 9/11 on Saddam, the nonexistent Iraqi WMD program, the dismantling of the Iraqi state and military, the on-going futility of military action in Afghanistan, the delusion that Pakistan is an “ally”.

        It points to an American elite that is truly out of its fucking gourd. They call themselves the “best and the brightest”. They disdain people that aren’t having it as Deplorable. What a joke. In this America it is taken as Truth that up is down and 2-1 = 4.785.

        • Matt Holbert March 5, 2018 at 3:32 pm #

          Well put, volodya.

    • JohnAZ March 5, 2018 at 11:43 am #


      Right! Think about Trump’s ascent. When he went down the escalator at Trump Tower, he was a relative unknown businessman whose main credential was The Apprentice. He succeeded over the next 18 minutes months to discumbubilate the political machines of the two major parties, leaving behind a trail of victims. A few nicknames, about half as much money out of his own pocket, and his own wits did the entire Deep State in during the election. His appeal? Listening and appealing to we, the common man voters. The negativism shown toward him by the Deep State continues but if I look at the past, he will clobber all of them. I have faith in the voters.

    • ozone March 5, 2018 at 12:35 pm #

      Here’s a wonderment for youse guys:
      Why was Meagan Kelly tapped to be the official moderator (interrogator) for the recent economic summit in St. Petersburg?? Whose bright idea was this? This is the representation of our best minds? If it is, the collective ‘we’ is looking mighty stupid — and as if we glory in our ignorance. Cringe-worthy.
      Good gawd, once she got going, the panel used her ideological and informational rigidity and lack of imagination like a toilet seat in a subway shithouse. This was in front of a huge audience and as you might guess, Putin used it to his advantage. Much levity ensued.

      • Janos Skorenzy March 5, 2018 at 3:09 pm #

        God bless you for this information. We of the Far Right used the makeup app to look at her as she really is – hideous. When she looks good, she is drunk on the Blood of the Saints.

  20. chipshot March 5, 2018 at 11:05 am #

    It’s bad enough msm and the DNC are promoting this nonsense so hard. But considering how much the US has interfered in many other countries’ elections, plus all the evidence that Hillary, the DNC and msm distorted (rigged) the 2016 primary, and this Russia hysteria is off the charts ludicrous.

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  21. amb March 5, 2018 at 11:06 am #

    The American government, the military/industrial/security/congressional complex, our media and our culture is a joke. On the same level as a comic book or a TV soap opera. Truly pathetic.

    Immorality, corruption, lack of understanding, education based upon deep false data, confusion, disorientation, etc. are the traits of our time, and our institutions and activities are a direct reflection of these negative attributes.

    As we all continue to act in this theatre of the absurd, ignoring our true issues, the above mentioned cancers or viruses continue to eat away at our foundation.

    Deja vu… Fall of the Roman Empire. It happens over and over because man is nuts.

    • bhnj13 March 6, 2018 at 12:18 am #

      man is nuts and man does not like to read history.
      “we are rome” – dick cheney
      what happened to rome, dick?

  22. volodya March 5, 2018 at 11:10 am #

    With respect to failed states, the upper crust of American society is busily creating a failed state right on their home soil.

    Look away from the doings of the Washington Swamp Creatures. Never mind stats churned out by governmental reporting agencies.

    Use your own eyes to see what the formerly prosperous and bustling American interior now looks like and how the people that inhabit that area now live.

  23. sauerkraut March 5, 2018 at 11:22 am #

    Russian hacking?

    Of course – that dastardly Russian named Murdoch. With his Fox News. Or did I get that all wrong?

    • sauerkraut March 5, 2018 at 11:32 am #

      I retract this absolutely. I realize that it was all wrong. It seems that Murdoch was born an Australian, according to my reading of Wiki.

      • sauerkraut March 5, 2018 at 11:47 am #

        And Fox News ownership is corporate, or so I understand. Ownership of which, I understand, is so diverse as to include even some Saudi interest. I really did get everything wrong. I apologize.

        • jdhines March 5, 2018 at 11:57 am #


          You only got the nationality wrong. Fox Noise has been pumping out disinformation since the day their cameras went live. All courtesy of the great patriot, Newt Gingrich who somehow got the media laws changed to allow a “foreigner” to own so many media outlets. Fox Noise makes a mockery of news coverage. It’s a pity so many have bought their BS hook line and sinker, including it would seem, our very own JHK.


          • lsjogren March 5, 2018 at 1:38 pm #

            You would prefer that the entire American journalism community consist of drooling Deep State-defending imbeciles like the people who write for New York Times and those who report the “news” on CNN?

        • sauerkraut March 5, 2018 at 12:06 pm #

          And when I wrote ‘dastardly’, I meant it as a joke. Not as an accurate description. It is amazing that so many apologies are required when one gets specific. So I re-iterate: I retract the original post in its entirety.

          • capt spaulding March 5, 2018 at 12:51 pm #

            All of us people down here in the red states know that Rupert Murdoch was born in Australia, the same as Hitler was.

          • jdhines March 5, 2018 at 2:52 pm #


            No take backs allowed! Freudian slip?


          • jdhines March 5, 2018 at 3:03 pm #


            Perhaps a little balance on either side? However, I think that whatever BS either side pumps out is by and large for the benefit of increasing advertising revenue and profit for the shareholders. Murdoch might be a little more interested in right wing crap than the others, but basically he is into hard cold cash, I believe. He and his ilk are playing us like fiddles for cash they are not honestly representing one side or the other.


  24. FincaInTheMountains March 5, 2018 at 11:34 am #

    how the US strategy bankrupted the Soviet Union by the “Star Wars” defense initiative == Dumbedup

    I highly doubt it. MIRV technology did the trick, forcing USSR to build 12 missiles for every one American. And the faulty Russian military doctrine of retaliatory, not preemptive strike.

    Nixon got Watergated for his reluctance to implement MIRV.

    • Ol' Scratch March 5, 2018 at 3:37 pm #

      Nixon got Watergated for his reluctance to implement MIRV.

      Now you’re talking. A few other things too, but detente and reconciliation with China were a biggies. I notice that quite few people these days are referring to him as “the last liberal president.” Which is true, at least by recent standards.

    • Dumbedup March 7, 2018 at 4:21 pm #

      MIRV technology was developed in the 1960s and the first Minuteman III missiles were deployed in the early 1970s. Russia had the technology by the mid 1970s. Star Wars was during the Reagan years.


      Nixon was impeached (articles were drawn up – it was going to happen) for obstruction of justice arising out of his involvement in the post-Watergate investigation and cover-up.

  25. akmofo March 5, 2018 at 11:54 am #

    The level of masochism involved in reading and deconstructing mendacious CIA propaganda garbage like the NYT, to me, is awe inspiring. I commend our host on his stamina in holding his breath. I gave up such masochism long ago. My lungs are clearer. My mind is clearer. And I’m generally happier for it 🙂

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  26. Newton Finn March 5, 2018 at 11:57 am #

    Again, JHK has hit the nail on the head. God, it’s wonderful to read intelligent, balanced commentary amidst all the shrieking insanity. These days, I’m more inclined to feel Russophilia than Russophobia. As JHK points out, Russia did the people of this country and the Middle East a huge favor by stopping our regime-change juggernaut. And while a nuclear arms build-up should not be celebrated, Putin & Co. has done the entire world a favor by counterbalancing an ever-increasing recklessness and bellicosity in American geopolitical strategy. So, from this American to the Russian people and their leadership: THANK YOU for helping to curb the designs of a dangerous American government, over which its citizens have lost control. And thank you, JHK, for sticking your neck out on behalf of reason and common sense.

  27. sprawlcapital March 5, 2018 at 12:28 pm #

    It’s still too early to feel safe, but it looks like my state, Iowa, will not be providing a site for Amazon’s second headquarters. Which is great news because Iowa needs another giant data corporation to locate here like the Amazon (pun intended) rain forest needs more chainsaws.

    Which shows in one more way that it’s not Russian election tampering we need to worry about; it’s destruction of our land and quality of life by the growth of our own economy that we should be trying to prevent.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 5, 2018 at 3:25 pm #

      Even the nightly News admitted that they will only be using people at fulfillment centers until Robots can be adapted to their needs. Any boom is likely to be of short duration. The technology is already there and the plans are on the drawing board.

  28. volodya March 5, 2018 at 12:34 pm #

    The fatal conceit rampant in the American Ruling Class was put most succinctly by Leon Panetta on a PBS NewsHour appearance where he said “we know how to do this”.

    As if.

    Andrew Bacevich, apparently with a much tighter grip on the reins, responded as such: “with all due respect, no we don’t know how to do this”. Bacevich was right.

    Judge them by their actions: American security chiefs are dedicated to the maintenance of an economic regime that has no hope, that is unworkable and unfixable and that benefits only the minority of Americans at the top tiers of society. The surveillance state they implemented over the years could give a shit about Muslim terror. Muslims terrorists give a reason for being for the surveillance apparatus but themselves are nowhere near an existential threat.

    What is the existential threat? Look in the mirror. YOU are. You, the unbeliever of the bullshit you are required to believe. YOU are the existential threat because disbelief spreads from person to person like a virus. YOU are the transmitter, the vector.

    The lessons of history are instructive. The Soviet Union collapsed under the weight of its own bullshit, Pravda and Izvestia saying one thing, but the reality of shitty living conditions, the reality of an onerous and oppressive police-state, the reality of French and Belgians and West Germans living in nice apartments, eating good food, driving nice cars, giving the lie to communist bullshit.

    Americans and especially America’s rulers can learn from this collapse. Will they learn? No chance. But will history replicate itself nicely? No, but it points the way, that bullshit as a way of life is fatal to a regime.

  29. venuspluto67 March 5, 2018 at 12:49 pm #

    Russia’s trolls were likely active on all major social media, though I can’t imagine it made much of a difference in what was already a very dysfunctional election cycle.

    • lsjogren March 5, 2018 at 1:35 pm #

      If Hillary wrote a book “5001 reasons I lost the 2016 election”, Russian meddling would probably rank about 4357th on the list.

      • Janos Skorenzy March 5, 2018 at 3:27 pm #

        Sounds about right. We Deplorables did her in. She named us and her curse rebounded on her with a vengeance.

        • GreenAlba March 6, 2018 at 7:37 pm #

          I think you’ve just plagiarised my ‘boomerang word’ metaphor of a few days ago there, Janos, but I’ll let you away with it on this occasion since it remains correct.

  30. Paul Ford O'Neil March 5, 2018 at 12:50 pm #


    The crocus are in focus here at the confluence of the Anacostia & Potomac! So happy First Monday of early Spring [Ah late winter, er early global-warming?] whatever.

    Well, looks like you finally reached “full-tilt-booggie freak-out” with the midgets of the Deep-State and they let loose their ‘hounds of winter’ trolls on you today, because you crossed some magical line of notoriety, tolerance or truth.

    Fortunately, unlike the pot-addled apparatchiks running ‘Rolling Stone’ in the 1970s – where I read your exposés of the sex & drugs and rock & roll clusterfuck ‘Hollywood’ music gulag – YOU don’t have to fear termination for exposing inconvenient facts today.

    You are not alone in your unflinching telling of the truth, which is THE most revolutionary act against this satanic – maoist-marxist-feminist culture of death gulag, that has been inflicted upon us all!

    My hat is off to you Jimmy – Keep at it!


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  31. lsjogren March 5, 2018 at 1:31 pm #

    Like a spoiled child who doesn’t get his way, the left now appears to want to precipitate a world war in order to vent its anger over losing an election.

    • jdhines March 5, 2018 at 4:23 pm #

      Oh yes, the left thrives on wars, better keep the hard right in there to keep us out of wars and go for peace and prosperity!


  32. Ishabaka March 5, 2018 at 1:44 pm #

    There’s Reds! There’s Reds! There’s Reds under Her bed!

  33. Tate March 5, 2018 at 2:10 pm #

    I don’t get out much but my sources tell me that most Americans really do believe all this Russia hacking rubbish. A lie repeated often enough becomes the truth for the masses of low-information citizens.

    All the world’s a stage and all its men and women merely players. And a good stage play needs a good villain to keep the groundlings engaged. ‘Verily’, even a farce. So it’s a slick and facile trick and as old as empires for the neocons to create a villain in Putin, who has had the temerity to resist their unipolar world designs. People who get all their information and opinions from the NYT and other legacy media will uncritically and easily buy into the storyline of this narrative, of the nefarious doings of Mad Vlad Putin the strongman of Russia.

    Of course, this is not a Shakespearian drama. Our times being what they are, this is the Caped Crusader vs. the Joker. Two generations of public education in the U.S. of A. have created a citizenry so dumbed down that it actually comes down to a parallel & adjunct Marvel Universe.

    • Kafkaesque March 5, 2018 at 2:58 pm #

      Lost in Transaction

      I don’t speak Russian; in fact, I have a visceral diffidence toward this peculiarly human yet often inhumane segment of humankind (?) known as Slavic. Yet, they are dismissed simplistically at peril—go ask that hopped-up wannabe ‘Alice’, Adolf, about his wondrous misadventures in snowy Russia next time you’re in a hellish frame of mind.
      No, no malice, only indifference to those to whom I bear some distant filial relation (although there’s more of Transylvania in my hearth’s kinship) that once frontier land of memorable vampirism and the forgotten Austro-Hungarian Empire done in by that Great War, they called it with greatest albeit oblivious irony.
      And not least for the Bolsheviks’ appropriation of a Czech term, ‘Pravda’, signifying ‘truth’, only the Great Word of human(e) life itself.
      But a special brand of contempt, ahem, trumps.. this malaise to heretofore unscaled heights of Hilary loftiness (that’s Sir Edmund, not Her, with whom I wasn’t/won’t ever be). This mining school grad, Vlad, KGB down to his unmined stony-hearted flabby breast, wishes to impale anyone who dares to even conjecture his wasted wasteland of possibility as but a regional nuisance clutching insecurely its atomic security blanket, all the while swilling very good vodka, each emptied European crystal glassful inching his/their searing memory of smothered laughter at these pretenders to European sophistication since at least Peter the Great(?) and his tax on scruffy beardedness as yet another nod to Slavic second-ratedness
      And, so, his latest too-pre-dick-table (sorry) Freudian Power Pointing to his oh so hard…to prick missile.
      Sometimes a cigar is just a (cheap) cigar—this scribbler’s paraphrase of a Freudian slip.
      Not content, it would seem, with the state of the ruble and its one trick pony of an economy where consumerism is defined numerically by that Greek-inspired, hardly inspiring term plutocrat, Putin’s idea of puttin on the Ritz is to deliberately conflate ‘ruble’ with ‘rubble’ should anyone think of messing with his version of Texas, circa November 1963.
      What is missed by the frost-bitten Napoleonic (here’s betting he’s passed when the Tolstoy tomes were passed around at the mining college’s one course in Russian lit) shorty is, well, the coming influx of transactional titans coming his way, both geographic and/or psychic, what with these personality cults waxing worldwide from the Philippines to Austria to all that’s rotten in Denmark and the rest of Scandinavia—not to mention Amerika (intentional Kafkaesque spelling). Yep, nationalistic fascism is making a comeback, and, what with his German and Italian luxury limousines and regally decorated Dacha in Sochi and who knows where else (lots of ‘em) who cares about Marx—Hell, the Chinks and even Lenin like(d) a heavy dose of capital in their ‘isms’.
      You’re left with this right..wingish coda to this anthem of angst: between that low-level fellow who traded Hawaii (and a few zillion secrets) for Moscow and that Aussie who prefers Ecuador-in-London to being literally down under and Mr. Drumpf, President Number 45 (for the fleeting moment) Vlad may have to retake Romania if only to put them up properly in that other Vlad’s castle.
      Think of the tourist dollars. Alas, from threats of rubble to a newly bolstered ruble.
      Spasseba! [‘Thanks, suckers.’]

      • Tate March 5, 2018 at 3:24 pm #

        I just lost 75 seconds of my life.

    • jdhines March 5, 2018 at 4:09 pm #


      Flynn? Why lie if there was nothing to lie about? Why plead guilty? Are we just to chalk that up to stupidity? Three star general officer, cowed into pleading guilty for nothing. Really? Why did GGG fire him, for lying? Trump cares about lying to Pence? I have trouble buying that crock of horseshit. Could you ‘splain that one to me please?


      • jdhines March 5, 2018 at 4:14 pm #

        You Russia lovers (some new class of Commies?) spin a good yarn, but there is always a large fly in the ointment that you neglect to explain. If we find one thing that doesn’t jibe and you are unable or unwilling to elucidate us, your whole cock-n-bull story falls apart.


        • jdhines March 5, 2018 at 4:16 pm #

          At least it does for me. Now, if you could make a believable case, that would be different. But you have not made it yet, so wait for the outcome please.

      • Tate March 5, 2018 at 4:53 pm #

        Are you off your meds today jdhines? I go run an errand come back and find this, 3 no less troll attacks by you.

        Flynn? lol, yes and I suppose he was checking his earpiece with a direct connect to his handlers at the Internet Research Agency in that famous dinner photo seated next to a smugly-in-control Putin. I notice Jill Stein was also in on it.

        • Tate March 5, 2018 at 5:03 pm #

          correction: “off your meds again today…”

        • jdhines March 5, 2018 at 5:24 pm #

          No attack, just asking. No explanation for Flynn, eh? Jill didn’t plead guilty.

          • Tate March 5, 2018 at 6:59 pm #

            Why did Flynn lie if there was nothing to lie about? I’ll defer to a first-rate legal mind on that question:


            Readers can draw their own conclusions. But the key takeaway quote from that OP is here:

            “… why did Mueller charge Flynn only with lying? The last thing a prosecutor ever wants to do is to charge a key witness with lying.
            ” A witness such as Flynn who has admitted he lied — whether or not to cover up a crime — is a tainted witness…”

          • jdhines March 5, 2018 at 9:25 pm #


            One thing we can assume to be true is that Dershowitz has an ax to grind in regards to the Jewish capital being located in Jerusalem. A reasonable assumption given his stated positions.

            Per Dershowitz “People who lie to the FBI generally do so because, if they told the truth, they would be admitting to a crime. But the two conversations that Flynn falsely denied having were not criminal. He may [MAY] have believed they were criminal but, if [IF] he did, he was wrong.”

            First off: conjecture. So Dershowitz knows the full extent of Flynn’s lies, is that it? It doesn’t seem so with his “may/if” qualifications. “He [Flynn] was wrong”. Right, and his attorney made the same mistake and was also wrong about it being a crime too? Maybe time for a better attorney (or a better explanation).

            Flynn was fired by DJT in less than a month for the lies he and his attorney were mistaken about. So Flynn pleading guilty and getting fired is all some sort of big mistake… oops.
            Right, I think I’ve got it.

            Even the esteemed Alan D, a notable leftist by-the-way, is going to have a tough time selling this pig. I think it’s Alan who is off his meds again.


          • Tate March 5, 2018 at 11:46 pm #


            What are we really talking about here? That Flynn knows something that will unravel this whole ball of imagined far left lunatic yarn that will ultimately “Nixon” Trump? Is that what you’re saying?

            If that’s what we’re talking about, then Mueller picked a rather poor target to turn witness for the prosecution, don’t you think? An admitted and convicted liar, i.e., a probable dead-end.

            Flynn lied to the FBI. That is an established fact. We don’t know his motives. That is the subject of speculation. But good luck with that dog, it won’t hunt.


      • MontanaMan March 6, 2018 at 7:19 am #

        Have you kept up with how it’s destroyed his family and there finances? A. Had to sell both there homes. Liquidate all, There stocks / Bonds etc. every, Thing. Both sons have liquidated this case has broke the entire families finances and nerves. If you actually knew anything about the Flynn’s you would know all these things. He has ZERO, security now. When all this washes out all they will have is a rental house.

        • jdhines March 6, 2018 at 10:03 am #


          It is extremely unfortunate, but those are the wages of hooking your wagon to a con man like DJT with a one-way sense of loyalty. DJT could make a sizable donation to Flynn’s legal defense fund. If I were Flynn though, I would not count on that happening.


      • elysianfield March 6, 2018 at 11:33 am #

        “Why did GGG fire him, for lying? Trump cares about lying to Pence? I have trouble buying that crock of horseshit. Could you ‘splain that one to me please?


        An ill-considered expedient? It may have been a knee-jerk reaction to his first “crisis” in office.

        • jdhines March 6, 2018 at 4:47 pm #


          That is certainly plausible.


    • PeteAtomic March 5, 2018 at 8:00 pm #

      “Our times being what they are, this is the Caped Crusader vs. the Joker. Two generations of public education in the U.S. of A. have created a citizenry so dumbed down that it actually comes down to a parallel & adjunct Marvel Universe.”

      Wakanda is based on a real place, or haven’t you been reading the Washington Post:



  34. Janos Skorenzy March 5, 2018 at 3:20 pm #

    Hollywood has weathered the moral crisis, made the adjustment – and is now back to Hypocrisy as usual. Pedophile Roman Polanski won, signaling that only actresses and career women are of limits. Nobody girls are still an acceptable target.


    “Call Me by My Name” won as well – a male pedophile film. It’s still open season on boys. Not enough victims came forward and they were drowned out by the women – with the media’s help of course. Their outrage was real as was their pain – and this will be used to strengthen “you go girl” Feminism. That’s not good. Thus reality is used to buck up illusion.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 5, 2018 at 3:22 pm #

      Sean, just now: Oscar viewership down 16%. Thank God. It was my duty to watch and I did. The constant braying at men was beyond belief. Equality? Like hell, they want superiority. Ditto the endless and depressing parade of Blacks.

      • tucsonspur March 5, 2018 at 4:45 pm #

        Early on, Kimmel had to point out that the Oscar had no penis. Ha. Ha. Set the tone? Are the women comfortable now?

        It was good to see Eva Marie Saint. Old school and from back in the day, any politics aside.


        And Kobe Bryant, Mr. “Dear Basketball”, takes a shot at Laura Ingraham. Dream on black youth of America, dream on, follow the bouncing ball to glorious heights. WTF.

        • Janos Skorenzy March 5, 2018 at 6:19 pm #

          Kimmel: the ultimate sell out punk. He used to rank on Oprah. Then they made him do a special where he worshiped her. Now’s he’s gold. Most late night humor is now just political programing for the youth.

        • BackRowHeckler March 5, 2018 at 9:08 pm #

          Eva Marie Saint in ‘On the Waterfront’.

          She was sweet.


          • outsider March 5, 2018 at 10:10 pm #

            That’s back when men were men and women were women. I loved it when Brando punked the Oscars and had that Native American woman accept his award for him when he won best actor for “The Godfather.” (I think it was the godfather).

            Janos, Kimmel may be their golden boy now, but, like all male celebrities and politicians today, he’s only one #metoo accusation away from THE END. Kimmel is stuck in the fetid swamp of PC land, and has less real freedom of speech than you or I.

      • MontanaMan March 6, 2018 at 8:12 am #

        If you and others really want to know what all is going on across our Nation pertaining to the massive amounts of “Black Ass Trash Physical Attacks On White Folks,” then it would behoove you and all other White Folks you know to start today following Colin Flaherty Tommy Sotomayor. Both on CensorTube. Aka YouTube. Colin has wrote books and documted the massive attacks.

        Both have thousands of videos showing the various types of physical assaults, rape on white women, God only knows how many different types of property crimes and murder. Tommy focuses more on the absolutely self destructive black communities coast to coast and how they, they are 100% guilty for it, and just how evil / horrible Black Mothers are. From him you learn that the “State Of The Black Communities “ is because of Black single Mothers. He is a “Black Conservative” that grew up in a extremely dysfunctional Black abode under the clutches of a unstable Black Mother.

        He pulls zero, punches. His language will get you first and his passion. His shows each day are filled with hard core passion! To expose the lies that all Black Communities spew and all, Black leaders spew and all the lies that the Democratic Party spew.

        He tells us white folks what many of us have long suspected but we cannot find out by asking any. Such as, A. Just how much $$$$ does a single Black, Mother get per kid. State to State. He tells. Some States are far more generous than others. But catch this. The lowest State that gives direct hard cash monthly deposit is Mississippi and it’s $350 a month.

        Per kid!!! In California/Hawaii the 2 highest paying States he lays it all out how much largesse!! From a monthly income to subsidized housing/electricity/water/sewer /gas and the $$$$$ amount in food stamp. For a Black Mother with 5 kids? Ready for this???!!! California $48,000 dollars!!! Hawaii, $42,000 thousand dollars!!!! He breaks it right down each State and shows just how LBJ sorry ass so called “Great Society Programs” completely destroyed the black family.

        He also exposes all the deeply held secrets each black community shares. Town to town. City to city. State to State. How the black kids are raised. I kid you not. What black single mothers teach them. EACH AND EVERY BLACK MOTHER TEACHES THESE THINGS! And not only teaches it, BUT DRIVE IT IN EACH ONES HEADS!

        Case in point. Black boys & girls are taught this. Drilled, into them. And then I will give you a taste, just a taste what each and every Black Boy is taught.

        A. Lie to every white man white woman. No matter what the subject or situation. You lie. And you make up lies. To make them look bad. Never forget this. White folks have all the $$$$. It’s your little Niggly Bears asses to get it to bring money into this house!!! What do you do?? LIE!! When do you Lie??? ALWAYS!!

        B. Lie on all Cops. Period. Make up lies!! Hit yourself to bruise yourself so you can lie and I can sue them!!! Hit yourself really good!! The city has plenty of white folks money and we want it!!

        C. Always walk behind every white man or woman’s car in parking lots so they can bump you! So I can sue them and. Lame them for being racist. Most whites are so scared of us Black folks labeling them racist they will roll over and pay us off! Use your bicycle. Always fall with your bike!! ( he really gets into telling you and showing you how Black Mothers actually show them how to fall and scream and act it up!! And why repeating yourself works best because it “drives white folks nuts When we repeat ourselves over and over and scream how bad we hurt in certain places. “

        D. Steal! Steal! Steal! And in stores if caught scream racist and blame it on the store employee or manager for planting it on you!!

        E. (He really gets into the nuts and bolts on this one. All these things shows just how evil, sick twisted Black Mothers really are.

        Pick out a upper class white girl with both parents that live in the best neighborhoods. Knock her up! That is a quick way for your little Niggly ass to get money into this house!!

        So much more Tommy Sotomayor lays out and he is always saying,

        White folks listen to me on this. A black boy girl is Your Worse nightmare. They are. You see one coming go the other way. Oh. They give the stats data on average how many white folks will be robbed raped murdered each day. Coast to Coast. And not 1 National Media will run stories on this massive epidemic!!

        • elysianfield March 6, 2018 at 11:39 am #

          You paint with a very wide brush….

          • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 12:37 am #

            That’s how a job gets done. A little artistic brush is the exceptions to the rule. Don’t confuse the two.

          • elysianfield March 7, 2018 at 6:25 pm #

            Yes, but with a large brush, fine detail is lost…Did Reuben not use a fine brush…Michelangelo? A wide brush is fine for soup-cans…but the canvas upon which humans are defined requires a fine brush, a deft hand, and an observant eye. Even H Bosch, in his treatment of lesser beings, required great detail.

        • Tate March 6, 2018 at 3:37 pm #

          You have to wonder if LBJ knew the sum total of how it would turn out. Probably not, but he certainly knew that hooking the blacks on the sugar tit of the demo party would not make the black kids angry one little bit.

          Or maybe I’m just being naive about human nature.

          • Tate March 7, 2018 at 12:15 pm #

            Yep, a little naive. Did LBJ really say, “We’ll have those n*ggers voting for the demo party for two hundred years” ? (Hardly matters if he said “nigras”.)

            It sticks because it’s what most people take as fact. When that squib first started circulating back in the 60s, there were many apologists who said it was a lie, but even his defenders don’t defend him on that score anymore. We’re much more cynical about these things today and properly so.

  35. volodya March 5, 2018 at 3:32 pm #

    Foreign villains are a despot’s best friend and greatest asset. That’s why the Republican-Russian collusion story made no sense to me. Putin trying to get Trump elected? What for? Trump as Putin’s foreign villain? No, it doesn’t scan, not even a little.

    If Putin was wanting a villain, Hillary would have been a looooong ways better than Trump. Hillary the unabashed foreign meddler, the American exceptionalist-supremacist whose preferred solution is to bomb ’em all and let God sort ’em out versus Trump whose campaign rhetoric was MAGA – America First but the hell with these foreign adventures. Hillary would have been Putin’s ideal black-guard trying to keep Russia from taking its rightful place and keeping the great and glorious Russian people from fulfilling their historic destiny as a great power.

    Putin’s strategy would/should have to be to ensure a Hillary win to buttress his own position at home as guardian of all things noble and Russian and good.

    You notice how the official story line nudges. From Russian collusion to Russian election meddling to Russia’s sowing of discord. As the months pass this thing gets progressively sanded down. I wonder where they’ll be a year from now. Still, to justify this waste of time and money, Mueller had to come up with some Russians somewhere. So he indicted those thirteen. Pathetic.

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    • volodya March 5, 2018 at 3:36 pm #

      Meant to reply to Tate.

      • capt spaulding March 5, 2018 at 7:42 pm #

        I really don’t understand why everybody is so down on Mueller. I didn’t know anything about him until he was appointed as special prosecutor. From everything I’ve read about his career, he is respected by Republicans & Democrats both. He served in the USMC during Vietnam, leading a Marine Recon unit, earned a Bronze Star with a V for Valor, and a purple heart. After his service, he began his career in Wash. DC. and has a reputation as a nonpolitical stand up guy. Read his autobiography, and then compare him to Trump. It’s all out there to see. Hell, I’m a cynic, and I can’t find anything to fault him with. Of course it could just be fake news, and anyway, everybody knows he’s just out to get Trump. You know, Trump the war hero?

        • jdhines March 5, 2018 at 9:37 pm #


          Good observation. Mueller somehow becomes persona non grata as soon as he’s appointed SP. Before that, he was a good R, war hero, head of the FBI during 9-11, hailed by all (especially R’s, but by D’s too), as a stand-up and decent guy. Now he’s some sort of “Deep State” lackey who reports to HRC and her monkeys?

          I don’t buy it either. DJT supporters are grasping at the flimsiest of straws here.


        • Janos Skorenzy March 6, 2018 at 1:37 am #

          No, things aren’t nearly that neat. Many geniuses have made fools of themselves in other fields. Courage? Physical courage is one thing and moral is another. All are good by definition, but many a man has one and not the other. Even physical breaks into several: One martial artist I read said that he knew firemen and rescue workers who couldn’t face another man one on one. That’s a physical courage of a specific kind.

          He may well be an incredible man in many ways, but he like so many military men, he will follow any orders – moral or not. Loyalty is not the only virtue, not by a long shot. It does not replace intellectual courage and the willingness to disagree with your comrades and superiors on principle.

          • elysianfield March 6, 2018 at 11:42 am #

            “He may well be an incredible man in many ways, but he like so many military men, he will follow any orders – moral or not. Loyalty is not the only virtue, not by a long shot. It does not replace intellectual courage and the willingness to disagree with your comrades and superiors on principle.”

            No one would argue that the German soldier was the best at following orders….

      • Tate March 6, 2018 at 12:26 am #


        It’s all too simple-minded. That’s the tell. The simple-mindedness of it. It’s a narrative spun by the Good Thinkers to present to the low-information voters as fodder for the liberal news cycle.


    • tucsonspur March 5, 2018 at 3:45 pm #

      Here she is as the jolly devil:


  36. tucsonspur March 5, 2018 at 3:39 pm #

    The anxiety medication is flying off the shelves as fast as the booze bottles, and Lefties have been burning up the phone lines with calls to their shrinks.


  37. jdhines March 5, 2018 at 4:04 pm #

    “Former Trump aide Sam Nunberg said Monday that he has been subpoenaed to appear in front of a federal grand jury investigating Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election but that he will refuse to go.”

    Let’s see how that works out for him, eh? It may start to getting more interesting. Nothing going on with Russians, right? I’ve got some stuff in the attic I want to sell you.


    • outsider March 5, 2018 at 9:58 pm #

      If Nunberg has been looking for his 15 minutes of fame, I guess he’s got it.

    • Tate March 6, 2018 at 12:52 am #

      “Former Trump aide Sam Nunberg said Monday that he has been subpoenaed to appear in front of a federal grand jury investigating Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election but that he will refuse to go.”

      In other news: “CNN travels to Thailand to speak with prostitute who claims to have dirt on Trump” lol.

      • jdhines March 6, 2018 at 10:23 am #


        That is an interesting story about the Russian “sex coach.” I’d like to hear what she has to say. She obviously knows the one Oligarch in an intimate way. It’s the side ring in the big tent! I wouldn’t want to be in her shoe’s when the Thais deport her back to mother Russia.


  38. Anon1970 March 5, 2018 at 4:48 pm #

    Can we give Russiagate a rest for a while and talk about the pending Trump trade war instead? Trump’s planned 25% tariff on steel and aluminum remind me of the Smoot-Hawley tariff of 1930. Beggar they neighbor policies never worked then and are unlikely to work now. The tariffs will have almost no impact on China but will affect our military allies. They are very likely to retaliate with countervailing trade restrictions of their own. The US runs a trade surplus with Canada in steel and an overall trade surplus in goods and services in the billions of dollars. Think Canadian snowbirds in Florida in winter.

    The Smoot-Hawley tariff increases had a very bad economic affect on Europe. The first domino to fall was a major Austrian bank, Creditanstalt, which failed in 1931. Unemployment in Germany soon rose to 25% and in two national elections in 1932, the German Nazi party was the largest vote getter.

    Thanks to our Middle East wars (16+ years and counting), we have already created a refugee crisis in Europe leading many voters to choose far right candidates in their elections. Do we want to stir up another crisis in Old Europe?

    • Anon1970 March 5, 2018 at 4:50 pm #

      The aluminum tariff would only be 10%.

      • K-Dog March 6, 2018 at 12:36 am #

        And anybody who is ready to cough up 20K for some solar will happily pay 5% more to get the job done. Make Merica great doncha know!

    • FincaInTheMountains March 5, 2018 at 5:18 pm #

      we have already created a refugee crisis in Europe

      Americans do not need to blame themselves for the “refugee” crisis in Europe – e.g. a significant mass of middle-eastern men of military age trained in guerilla urban warfare, being assembled by the Fourth Reich (aka European Union) for yet unknown, but I am sure glorious reasons.

    • FincaInTheMountains March 5, 2018 at 5:28 pm #

      And by the way, I am pretty sure that Putin’s ultimatum was aimed not so much at USA, but at the European Fourth Reich and American Deep State, subordinated to it.

      • JohnAZ March 5, 2018 at 9:04 pm #

        What is common to these groups? I keep seeing the globalists popping up everywhere, being led by George Soros, loyal subject of Master Rothschild.

      • BackRowHeckler March 5, 2018 at 9:05 pm #

        I doubt Russia has much to worry about from the so called ‘Fourth Reich’ in western Europe. Have you taken a look at some of the armies these countries are fielding: hair down to their asses, stoned out of their gourds, gay friendly, with drag queens in the ranks and led by lady Field Marshalls and Defense Ministers.

        Sepp Dietrich’s SS 1st Panzer Army it aint.

        So rest easy, FincalnTheMountains.


    • jdhines March 5, 2018 at 5:41 pm #

      Fair enough.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 5, 2018 at 5:46 pm #

      Even thought most of them aren’t from Syria and Islam has been trying to conquer the West for more than a thousand years?

      • FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 2:42 am #

        Russia has no problem with traditional Islam – we have been sharing the living space with Islamic nations for hundreds of years – Tatarstan being the largest of them.

        Tatars fought bravely during the Great Patriotic War defending Russia.

        Islamism – a projection of Western European Nazi ideology on Islam – is a different matter thow.

        • GreenAlba March 6, 2018 at 1:31 pm #

          Nice post, Finca.

        • Janos Skorenzy March 6, 2018 at 5:58 pm #

          Traditional Islam, at least the Sunnis, are Jihadis. Nice try, but it’s just nonsense.

    • bhnj13 March 6, 2018 at 12:36 am #

      the refugee crisis has more to do with a tunisian street vendor lighting himself on fire in 2011 than our wars in the middle east, which compounded the problem . the arab spring sparked this mass exodus with a wave of regime change throughout n africa and mideast that still hasnt sorted itself out. this is not the first time that europe has been overrun by islam, theres been a steady back and forth since the 750s and right now its forth, for islam. this whole mess probably ends with mass deportations and conversions, reconquista style.
      im pretty sure that these tariffs will be walked back in scope before theyre actually implemented, probably with european exemptions and 10-15% for steel.

  39. FincaInTheMountains March 5, 2018 at 4:58 pm #

    Putin’s Ultimatum and the Crisis of the Western Scientific Method

    The problem of modern Western science is that it is not science, that is, the quest for understanding the laws of nature, but rather it resembles figure skating, where virtuosos gain points for intellectual jumps and supports.

    And if now it is at the stage of dancing on the ice, where the marks for artistry are given out for the remnants of the natural philosophy of Newton, Faraday, Maxwell, Planck and Einstein, but gradually “science” moves on to pair figure skating, where all these nonsense is simply cast aside, not to interfere with intellectual jumps.

    On March 1, Putin introduced at least three (!) principally new weapons systems:

    1. Hypersonic glider capable of flying at 20x speed of sound in the atmosphere in the plasma cloud, while maneuvering and maintaining communications with command center

    2. Miniaturized nuclear (fission or fusion?) jet engine small enough to fit on the missile 740 millimeters (approx. 29 inch) in diameter

    3. Fundamentally new type of underwater robot, also equipped with a nuclear reactor, which has an unlimited range and is capable of silently creeping to the target at huge depths

    I hope you understand that all aforementioned technological breakthroughs achieved in such historically short period of time (and I am sure on the shoe-string budget, compared to that of the Pentagon) are impossible without solid theoretical base in physics and new mathematical apparatus, different from the monstrosity of the Gauge Theory in conjunction with Shut Up and Calculate method which together actually became the basis of the Western “scientific method”, that fell into a coma-like state somewhere in the mid-1960s and no major discoveries have since been made.

    That is if you discount all these “technologies” that allows unsophisticated user with one click put 10 smiles on a Facebook page.

    And it all coincided with the attempted reform of the Russian Academy of Sciences, which Putin managed to resist at least in the most crucial directions, the reform whose primary goal was to finally turn Russian science into the periphery of Western science that is rapidly losing its development potential due to the loss of the scientific method.

    And the true Orthodox principle of scientific creativity in Russia remained intellectual honesty and the refusal to adjust the result of scientific research to a pre-established concept, no matter how politically correct it may be in the eyes of those who wish to subordinate the Science to a pseudo-religious philosophy.

    • JohnAZ March 5, 2018 at 9:16 pm #

      Notice the subtle change in the strategy of the weaponry. MAD was based on the idea that Russia and us could blow the hell out of each other, so why bother. The futility of nuclear exchange kept us from doing as much. Now though, 50 megaton bombs are not being built, just little,mobile, undetectable, stealthy quick acting nukes that seem to be for tactical rather than strategic purposes. What is everybody up to? Korea, Pakistan, China, Russia, Iran, Israel, India, France and England(soon to be Muslim), what is everybody up to? Somehow I feel like we are in a hot seat and it is getting hotter. And why the hell did HRC give nuclear material to Russia?

      • FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 2:57 am #

        MAD was based on the idea that Russia and us could blow the hell out of each other, so why bother.

        It is not that simple. The idea of a preemptive (or disarming) nuclear first strike aimed at the destruction of up to 90 percent of enemy nuclear assets in the silos, launching pads and places of docking of nuclear submarines, combined with the ABM systems capable of intercepting the significant portion of the remaining 10% is a “workable” solution.

        That is why Russia considers ABM systems being built in Europe as offensive(part of the first strike strategy), and not defensive mechanisms.

  40. KesaAnna March 5, 2018 at 6:02 pm #

    ” Why plead guilty? ”

    I am so fucking tired of hearing this !

    I’ll use a very simple and very common example , ok , dumb ass ?

    Traffic court ;

    The fine will cost you 200 dollars.

    Fighting for your innocence will cost you 2,000 , or 5,000 , or more , dollars.

    Is the math there simple enough for you ??

    Thousands of perfectly reasonable , intelligent , and innocent people plead guilty in traffic courts every day stupid.

    But it is different elsewhere in the legal – criminal justice system ?

    No. not at all.

    geez , I’m not asking people to go to law school.

    It might be kinda nice though if you got your frame of reference from something besides a fucking TV show though.

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    • jdhines March 5, 2018 at 9:47 pm #


      Traffic court? And it’s the same as a criminal court? Right. A three-star general officer just decides to throw everything away because it’s easy and won’t really blemish his record much and will save him a few bucks.

      The great Alan Dershowitz said it was just a mistake (a mix-up). Now, which is it, a mistake or a convenience? And being fired in less than a month was just, because, right? I know you think you have solved this riddle, but your explanatory theory needs some work. Please tell me again, who’s the dumb ass?


  41. bukowskisghost March 5, 2018 at 6:05 pm #

    Trump correctly assessed the American propensity to believe bullshit and pay attention to the loudest kid in the class. Style and no substance, just the way the good ol USA likes it.

    • Ol' Scratch March 6, 2018 at 6:49 am #

      This is true. He’s built a career on it.

  42. Janos Skorenzy March 5, 2018 at 6:16 pm #


    Late is the hour. The Armada of Doom is coming to the Camp of the Saints. Harden your hearts. All you need is Hate. Hate is all you need. The Moon itself shall turn its face away from the deeds we must do….

    • outsider March 5, 2018 at 9:53 pm #

      Why are whites no longer having babies? Perhaps this usually goes unstated, but when young people see that their lives are worse than their parents were, and when they think that their children’s’ lives will be worse than theirs, what incentive is there to bring little white babies into a world of pain? Once the browns take over, and they realize what a shit sandwich their lives are, and how they have made the world so much worse, then they may stop having babies too. Today’s young whites are living for today, and I can’t blame them, as there will be no better tomorrow for most.

      • beantownbill. March 5, 2018 at 10:10 pm #

        I got 2 white granddaughters age 3 and 7. Whites are still having babies, just at a lower rate.

        • malthuss March 6, 2018 at 1:54 pm #

          Most babies born in USA are non White.

          In 1960s, Whites married and had 4 children per family, on average.

          In 1970, USA was 90-93% White.

          An anecdote is not much, other than, ‘SEE.’

          Coincidence is not causation, as they say.

          • beantownbill. March 6, 2018 at 5:29 pm #

            In the 1960’s the average family size was around 4.3 persons, not 4 kids on average.

      • Ol' Scratch March 6, 2018 at 6:49 am #

        The generally accepted theory is that as people arrive at a comfortable economic status, usually accompanied by at least and undergrad education, they prefer to consume more themselves and/or delay having babies until they’re comfortably established in their careers. Then when they do have babies, they have fewer so that they can dote on them more. More kids equal watered down financial status for both parents and kids.

        Of course there’s also considerable social pressure now too. Most working professionals look down the nose on couples who have more than two kids unless the family is of considerable means. Lots of kids would normally also interfere with one or both of the parents professional careers as well. Critical when the modern family unit is built on two incomes.

    • elysianfield March 6, 2018 at 11:49 am #

      “Late is the hour. The Armada of Doom is coming to the Camp of the Saints. Harden your hearts. All you need is Hate. Hate is all you need. The Moon itself shall turn its face away from the deeds we must do….”

      Nice post.

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  43. Rod Cloutier March 5, 2018 at 7:15 pm #

    Is it Irony that Bloom county just did a comic strip with Donald Trump in his Bat Cave


  44. BackRowHeckler March 5, 2018 at 8:55 pm #

    Yes, yes, the Russians have 5000 nuclear warheas pointed in our direction, but so what? Hillary Clinton lost the election almost 1 1/2 years ago now and a scapegoat must be found. Our distinguished Senator Richard Blumenthal stated recently Russia meddling in US elections was an act of war akin to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, and we should respond to it like we did in 1941. If humanity in the northern hemisphere is wiped out, so be it.

    But the real question is, what about the Dreamers? Today they took to the streets, 35 year old ‘Dreamers’ (who came up with that label, George Orwell?) marching, carrying signs, raising hell, issuing threats, shouting slogans, demanding full citizenship and incidentally, free college tuition.


    • JohnAZ March 5, 2018 at 9:21 pm #

      Dems cannot allow the free access of immigrants to stop and dry up their potential voting base. They will fight the people who want a controlled border to the last man or woman.

    • beantownbill. March 5, 2018 at 10:04 pm #

      5000 nukes makes no difference. After the 1st 20 hit the US, it would cease to exist. Let’s say we could intercept 4 out of 5 of the missiles (a highly optimistic percentage) – then the Russians would need to have launched only100 missiles. Add in another 100 each for Britain and Germany, and all they’d need is 300 total. Why even bother making 5000, it’s a joke.

      Marlin, here’s an idea for college in the madhouse higher education department in addition to free tuition for everyone: Let’s eliminate college entrance exams and all other requirements for admission. If Harvard or Yale, say, each have room for 2,000 freshmen, then their a

      • beantownbill. March 5, 2018 at 10:08 pm #

        Oops, my usual fat finger. …..then their admissions departments choose the incoming classes by lottery. That way, the snowflakes don’t have to worry about unfairness.

        • BackRowHeckler March 5, 2018 at 10:24 pm #

          Bill, it seems like the Ivy League still is the destination for children of the elite, Govt., business and cultural elite. I wasn’t surprised one bit when the son of Bernadette Dohrn and Bill Ayers got a full scholarship to Yale; the kids of the police officer up by you in Boston who was killed in an armored car robbery mastermined by Dohrn and Ayers didn’t get squat.

          Altho what you suggest is possible due to endowments of $500 billion and $350 billion extant (Harvard and Yale) Harvard announced this year that for the first time there will be more ‘people of color’ admited than whites so maybe they are working toward that goal.


          • K-Dog March 6, 2018 at 12:31 am #


            You get the buzzer.

            Ayers was running from the law and was deep underground. It was at that time he married Bernadine Dohrn. They both being deep underground could not have had anything to do with the robbery.

          • K-Dog March 6, 2018 at 12:42 am #

            over the previous ten years, the Black Liberation Army and the Weather Underground, a militant faction of the Students for a Democratic Society, had teamed forces. This unlikely coalition was apparently committing robberies to obtain funds for the advancement of their respective “causes.

            Rather a broad sweeping brush. When it comes to Robbery individuals commit the crime. The guilty parties have been sentenced.

          • malthuss March 6, 2018 at 1:57 pm #

            With IQs of 80 [on average, or 90 for Latinox] how far can they go?

        • malthuss March 6, 2018 at 1:55 pm #

          5000 nukes makes no difference.

          After the 1st 20 hit the US, it would cease to exist–Okay.

      • BackRowHeckler March 5, 2018 at 10:30 pm #

        also, Bill, Russia has been making nukes since about 1949. That 5000 number is most likely how many have accumulated since that early date. I’m not sure if there’s a shelf life on nuclear weapons, does anybody know?

        In any case, nobody has ever come out ahead f-kking with Russia, provoking Russia, or invading Russia. Nobody.


        • beantownbill. March 5, 2018 at 10:44 pm #

          You got that right, Marlin.

        • thwack March 5, 2018 at 11:41 pm #

          I’m not sure if there’s a shelf life on nuclear weapons, does anybody know?


          I think there is; something about half life, decay rate, and the inverse square law…

          After 15 or 20 years they may be slightly less powerful, but more dirtier?

          • Ol' Scratch March 6, 2018 at 6:38 am #

            Yes, there is, at least as far as preferred reliability rates. But the overriding factor is that old nukes simply aren’t profitable. The cash has already been made and spent decades back. Yes, there’s maintenance and inspection costs to be reaped, but there’s so much more in R&D and manufacture of new ones. Nuclear shit is like everything else these days. There’s boatloads of cash to be made by wily contractors who get their snout in the trough early.

      • thwack March 5, 2018 at 11:42 pm #

        you can never be too thin, too white, or have too many nukes.

        Just sayin

  45. BackRowHeckler March 5, 2018 at 10:13 pm #

    At least the gun control BS has died down, and the Childrens Crusade seems to be just about over.

    It didn’t last too long.

    The Florida legislature voted NOT to ban AR15 style rifles. I’m not surprised. Kel tech and a few other gun manufacturers operate in Florida, and Colt opened a plant there a few years ago.

    there are about 50 makers of AR and AK style rifles in the US right now, and 300 more who make parts for those guns. Florida is seen as a gun friendly state and a destination for companies chased out of states like Connecticut, Illinois, Mass., NY and NJ. Florida doesn’t want to lose that.


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  46. beantownbill. March 5, 2018 at 10:40 pm #

    I can understand Russia’s actions, in the broad sense. You have to look at the last 80 years of their history to see why they act as they do now. They got invaded by Germany and suffered worse than any other country in WW2 – look at the siege of Stalingrad for example. Then the US developed nuclear weapons while there was an obvious American political majority that was anti-Soviet.

    Then the USSR broke up and America assured Russia that NATO would advance no further. But America lied and now Russia is ringed by nukes, and the Americans even went so far as getting rid of a Ukraine president – Ukraine, a country with close ties to Russia and in which the US wanted to place nuclear weapons right on Russia’s doorstep.

    Then, Hillary Clinton ran for president and she was obviously very hostile to Russia. What attitude was Russia supposed to cop? Look, I’m a loyal American citizen, born and bred, despite what a certain anti-Semitic poster says. All I’m saying is I can understand why they’re doing what they’re doing.

    My father was born in Russia and came over here when he was 7 years old. I know a lot of Russians personally who emigrated here. I find Russians are very dark emotionally, not optimistic as a rule, and have a tendency to paranoia. They are also some of the toughest people I know. They really are like a bear; leave them alone and they’ll leave you alone. But if they feel threatened, watch out. They don’t wimp out, crying and sucking their thumbs like Americans now do.

    • BackRowHeckler March 5, 2018 at 11:08 pm #

      Yeah, I’m not sure why we pushed NATO right up to their western border like we did; surely Russia saw it as a provocation. And Ukraine, I’m no expert, but the Russian nation was originally formed in Kiev, Ukraine. And how many Russian troops died fighting the Germans on Ukranian soil? Its gotta be in the millions. Trying to seperate Russia and the Ukraine would be like a foreign power advocating for Texas to separate from the US. Why the State Dept. was interfering there I don’t understand.


    • Janos Skorenzy March 6, 2018 at 1:48 am #

      Christ said you cannot serve two masters. You will love the one and hate the other. Or hate the one and love the other. What is America completely turned away from Israel as the best of the Left and the Right desire? Where would your patriotism be then? With Israel of course – as you admitted once or twice years ago.

      Check out this weeks Fred Reed: Jews don’t assimilate. Not like Irish, Italians, etc. He’s right for the most part. Blacks don’t either. Nor Hispanics. America must carve these groups off from its body.

      • malthuss March 6, 2018 at 2:00 pm #

        America must carve these groups off from its body.

        USA is gone and you know it.
        Borders make a nation.

      • bentley12 March 6, 2018 at 2:08 pm #

        You are a very sick person, Skorenzy. What happened to you to make you so alienated? You claim to be a Christer, and then you contradict everything Jeebus ever supposedly stood for. Sick.

        • Janos Skorenzy March 6, 2018 at 6:00 pm #

          Oh, you know for a fact that He would have been in favor of Mexico taking over America? And at the behest of the Sect that crucified Him?

        • Q. Shtik March 6, 2018 at 10:37 pm #

          You claim to be a [Christer]


          Hmm, a Christer… I have never heard that term before.

  47. BackRowHeckler March 5, 2018 at 11:20 pm #

    Read about Napolean’s invasion of Russia in 1812. For almost a century afterward delegations from Paris were dispatched to the Russian steppe trying to locate the remains of 500,000 disappeared French Soldiers. In fact in the 1990s a mass grave was located on the Polish Russia border, a small army annihilated on the disasterous retreat back to France.


    • K-Dog March 6, 2018 at 12:07 am #

      After Napoleon’s retreat and the occupation of Paris in 1814, did the occupying coalition forces loot and pillage Paris at all?

      “Paris was occupied by Russian troops and the Csar was an enlightened Francophile ( mainly perhaps because he always relied on French help against the British in the warm seas), so he gave drastic orders to prevent any looting . He also chose the most educated of his men, of whom a lot spoke French, to occupy Paris and not his wildest Cossacks.”

      Parisians were amazed to see disciplined well behaved soldiers instead of the imagined beasts they had anticipated upon their defeat.

      Russian officers spoke French and admired France. Some chose to stay in Paris, married well, and didn’t return to Russia. Many ordinary soldiers also settled in France to become farmers or craftsmen.


      BEWARE of Russian meddling!

      • BackRowHeckler March 6, 2018 at 12:38 am #

        Now that’s information I did not know.

        Good post, K Dog!


      • GreenAlba March 6, 2018 at 7:18 am #

        “A popular folk etymology of the word [bistrot] claims that it originated among Russian troops who occupied Paris following the Napoleonic Wars.”

        But unfortunately…

        “This etymology has been generally discredited due to its manifest illogic, and to the 69 year gap between the proposed origin and the first attestation.”

        It was a nice story, though.

        For the francophones:


        A plaque put up by the… Montmartre tourist office, who cling to the nice story.

        • FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 8:35 am #

          But unfortunately…

          No matter the etymology of the word bistrot the frog eaters should remember their ass being kicked by the Russians in 1812 and Paris occupied by Cossacks in 1814.

          If they forget, we could remind once more, I wonder how the’ll call their pubs this time, Wikipedia be damned!

          • GreenAlba March 6, 2018 at 10:52 am #

            As a little light cultural aside, I just thought it was a nice story anyway, Finca. And in keeping with K-Dog’s observations.

            Pardon my levity. You have reminded me why national chauvinism can create an international incident in an empty room, so thanks for that.

            My francophilia doesn’t extend to seeing Napoleon as anything other than a bar steward*, whether that was in a bistrot or just ‘un bar’.

            That may just be British slang. But it’s not a difficult one to figure out.

  48. FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 3:02 am #

    MAD was based on the idea that Russia and us could blow the hell out of each other, so why bother. == JohnAZ

    It is not that simple. The idea of a preemptive (or disarming) nuclear first strike aimed at the destruction of up to 90 percent of enemy nuclear assets in the silos, launching pads and places of docking of nuclear submarines, combined with the anti-ballistic missile (ABM) systems capable of intercepting the significant portion of the remaining 10% is a “workable” solution.

    That is why Russia considers ABM systems being built in Europe as offensive(part of the first strike strategy), and not defensive mechanisms.

    Please see Finca’s guide to Winning a Nuclear War


    • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 10:29 am #

      Ya know Finc, I usually read all your stuff, but repeatedly linking back to your own comments is not generally accepted as being in good taste, and on some boards will actually get you warned or banned. Just sayin’…

  49. FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 3:44 am #

    What is common to these groups? I keep seeing the globalists popping up everywhere, being led by George Soros, loyal subject of Master Rothschild. == JohnAZ

    The common to these groups is a rabid anti-Christian ideology, which I call Western Black Project, which could be traced at least 10 centuries back to the Great Schism of 1054, split of Roman Catholic Church from the Orthodox Christianity, and genocidal anti-Christian Albigensian Crusade, Fourth Crusade and Northern Crusade.

    Since then it became a glorious tradition of the West to at least once every century to undertake a regular anti-Russian crusade.

    Last time, I believe, it happened in 1941 – 1945 (If we discount the Cold War).

  50. MontanaMan March 6, 2018 at 7:10 am #

    The growing investigation of the involvement of President Trump and various Trump administrators with Russian officials and businessmen will capture media attention at the expense of all other issues.

    Not only will Americans have to endure a Nixonesque tragi-drama, but once again Americans will perceive Russia as the Big Bad Bear, the prime enemy bent on destroying us and taking over the world. However, Russia is a shell of its former Soviet self; it is not the enemy that could destroy us — that enemy is fascist China.

    Yes, China is fascist. Since the 1970s it has moved from communism to fascism, bypassing democracy. The Chinese have combined private ownership of property and the means of production with a police state government.

    This combination has created an economic miracle. According to which set of statistics one looks at, China is either already the world’s largest economy, or it will soon surpass the United States for the number one spot.

    However, integrating China’s economic power into the world trade network has not moved the country toward democracy. China is using its economic wealth to greatly increase the capability of its military, and under President Xi the political and religious oppression have gotten worse.

    China is the only country in the world with the economic and military power to challenge the dominant position of the United States. Historically a rising national power challenges the dominant national power for world supremacy, either economically or militarily, or both.

    Having China replace the United States at the top would be fine if China was a democracy, but it is not. China as the world’s superpower means that fascism, not democracy, becomes the dominant form of governance on the planet.

    President Xi and his colleagues must be extremely happy with our current fixation on Russia, and with some of President’s Trump’s decisions. In January, Trump withdrew the United States from participation in the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

    This was a potential trade agreement between the United States and 11 Asian and Pacific nations, not including China. Now, as the Prime Minister of Singapore said in January, the United States has just handed Asia to China.

    The Chinese will now be able to extend their economic control throughout East and South Asia without competition or interference from us. The Chinese are using their vast accumulated wealth (which they got from us) to finance a Marshal-type Plan for smaller, poorer Asian countries. These countries will view China as their major trading partner, and they will become economically, politically and culturally dependent on China.

    Viewing China as the prime enemy will not inevitably lead to a shooting war. The Soviet Union was the prime enemy for 43 years and we never engaged in combat with the Russians. Instead we surrounded the Soviet Union with an economic and military “fence” so that it could not expand any further than it already had. We could apply the same Cold War containment policy to China.

    The Chinese people have made a devil’s bargain with the Chinese government. The people have been given economic freedom in exchange for never gaining political or religious freedom. This exchange creates a powerful country with great pride and no conscience.

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    • FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 8:21 am #

      we never engaged in combat with the Russians

      MiG Alley? After analyzing the victory of Russian fighters over American, Stalin started to concentrate Alaska invasion troops in Kamchatka.

      Vietnam where Russian SAMs destroyed ALL American planes so you had nothing left to fight with?

      And, of course, now is East Ghouta, where Russians take out ‘Merican (and other Western) mercenaries (ISIS instructors) by the hundreds.

      • elysianfield March 6, 2018 at 11:58 am #

        “Vietnam where Russian SAMs destroyed ALL American planes so you had nothing left to fight with?”

        Komraden Finc,

        …All…ALL? Jesus.

    • FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 9:14 am #

      The Chinese will now be able to extend their economic control throughout East and South Asia without competition or interference from us.

      Chinese are still going in Yin – Yang cycles.

      The only hope for them to pass into the Queen was the war between the US and Russia, without it they will always be catching up.

    • JohnAZ March 6, 2018 at 10:11 am #

      What do you do when you have 1/2 the marbles, militarily, and Russia has the other half. You cannot fight each other because that would be insane. So what to do ? Proxy war! Korea, Vietnam, Kuwait, Iraq, Syria, Ukraine, just some places where the chess game has played out. What is common to all the above is that they have been a theater to flex muscles and assess the effectiveness of one’s military against the other. Leftist love to criticize the US for interfering with other countries, we do, but without the gauntlet being thrown at Russia over the decades, we would’ve been steamrollered by the Soviets. The nature of that beast, though, is that we end up playing whack a mole, and can never figure when to get the hell out of a situation.

      People have been commenting on the apparent paranoia shown by Russia. The Moscow Russians have been invaded for millennia from both sides, Asia and Europe. I think they wonder who it is going to be next.

      • JohnAZ March 6, 2018 at 10:12 am #

        And what happens when a third party rises up, China?

    • malthuss March 6, 2018 at 2:01 pm #

      This combination has created an economic miracle..

      Clinton and slave labor [+ crime and stealing patents] did.

  51. akmofo March 6, 2018 at 7:16 am #

    The commie CIA/Google goolag is being sued, hopefully out of existence.

    Behind PragerU’s fight against Google censorship

    • FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 9:25 am #

      Google is definitely censoring Kunstler site through its various traffic evaluator tools – I noticed it long time ago. It even contradicts other traffic tools, such as Amazon’s Alexa.

      Jim should consider including an independent and direct traffic evaluator on his site – I think there are free ones.

      • akmofo March 6, 2018 at 10:21 am #

        I’m really disappointed Trump hasn’t yet brought the kibosh on google, amazon, facebook, etc. He needs to get rid of his dumb ass AG with his idiocy and preoccupation of going after users using the sacred plant.

  52. Georges1202 March 6, 2018 at 8:22 am #

    I look forward to 2 outcomes of the Russia nonsense. First would be that that whoremongering simpleton is removed from office and 2nd that Jim might write about something else.

  53. AKlein March 6, 2018 at 8:36 am #

    The current American economic “system” ultimately engenders the creation of Molochs. Behold the so-called healthcare racket. Real doctors know full well that most chronic disease is caused by lifestyle choices – particularly what one chooses to eat. What to do about this? Nothing, of course. Changing what people eat will gore the synthetic food industry’s ox and the healthcare racket too. Too much money is involved. So, the country lumbers on, making deliberately ineffective gestures at resolving the conundrum. Same thing applies to the warmaking racket. Anybody with a brain recognizes that full-scale war is madness, and small-scale war is a logical pipe-dream since such schemes will clearly not preclude escalation if one of the combatants starts to lose and also has nuclear weapons. So why not abandon such thinking? Simple. There is too much at stake financially. Sure, it’s crazy, but behold the numbers! Lots of cash, lots of jobs fueling industry, lots of R&D keeping the brainiacs employed. So, essentially, we are “eating” our future, our own progeny. We know better, but we just can’t get out of the cycle. The Moloch demands to be fed. All because we just can’t bring ourselves to imagine a different way of living. Doing that would require too much change. And then we wonder what could possibly drive the lemmings over cliffs.

    • akmofo March 6, 2018 at 9:50 am #

      People are turning out.

      People are replacing synthetic “medicinal” poisons made in a lab for plant-based nutrition. People are tuning out MSM/CIA propaganda, replacing disinformation and ignorance with knowledge and information provided by independent media. People are replacing agri-chemical phoods, laden with poisons, sugars, antibiotics, hormone disrupters, etc., with organic natural food. People are changing their lifestyle, leaving places like California, an anti-family commie shithole, to areas that have sensible economic and cultural footing. People are replacing their gas vehicles for electric vehicles. Some trading their electric vehicles for public transport, bicycles, walking, and are insisting on replacing soul killing suburbia for truly urban mixed use neighbourhoods where high density midrise and highrise buildings contain both commercial and private space as commonly found in Europe.

      It’s a slow change, but change it is.

      • malthuss March 6, 2018 at 2:04 pm #

        They are many steps ahead of the John Rappoports and
        John Robbins es.

        G5 phones and cell towers.
        Pills that are so strong many cant get off them [The Sackler and Honey Shermans].

        I dont listen to Alex Jones but Im not sure even he knows of ‘all thier ways.’

        • akmofo March 6, 2018 at 2:21 pm #

          We all need to understand one thing. Change is within us. The future is what WE make it.

          • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 7:36 am #

            Are we all going to join in a chorus of Kumbaya now? Janos, can you gives us the pitch?

    • beantownbill. March 6, 2018 at 11:32 am #

      It’s funny that our national dialogues are political or social, but we don’t have a corporate one. We need to start up a public discourse about corporate machinations in health care, higher educ

      • beantownbill. March 6, 2018 at 11:36 am #

        It’s funny that our national dialogues are political or social, but we don’t have a corporate one. We need to start up a public discourse about corporate machinations in health care, higher education, the MIC, and internet monopolies, among others. It seems these industries get away with a lot of illegal activities. Why?

        • ozone March 6, 2018 at 12:27 pm #

          I agree. The enemies of humans worldwide are those who worship and serve Mammon above all else.

        • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 7:29 am #

          We need to start up a public discourse about corporate machinations…

          We did already. The John Roberts Supreme Clown Court settled it for us already. They’re persons. You and I on the other hand…

    • ozone March 6, 2018 at 12:24 pm #

      ‘Nailed it!

      That’s encouraging news. We buy close to zero commercially raised veggies in season and do a lot of canning of our own produce. We don’t count the $ cost, although I’m sure it is more expensive than buying it at the grocery chain-store. So what? It tastes better and I’m certain that the nutrient value is far higher.

      • akmofo March 6, 2018 at 1:19 pm #

        Yup. Homemade sauerkraut, coleslaw, pickles, kimchi, kvass, kefir, kombucha, beer, wine, etc., is the way to go. I also very much like the idea of communal farms, where families financially support farmers who then provide them with fresh organic produce. We need to disengage from the corporations and make them extinct. Otherwise they will make us extinct.

        • Janos Skorenzy March 6, 2018 at 2:01 pm #

          Besides Christianity, the Dill Pickle is the supreme Jewish contribution to humanity. Will you now disavow the dill as you did Christ?

          • akmofo March 6, 2018 at 2:09 pm #

            Besides being a Vatican nazi clown do you have any other occupation?

          • elysianfield March 6, 2018 at 7:05 pm #

            Relax. Janos is jerkin’ your gherkin….

          • akmofo March 6, 2018 at 9:44 pm #

            Yup, but what do you do with someone who is too stupid to appreciate that the characters he’s typing to communicate his nazi propaganda here are Hebrew letters.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 12:50 am #

            No, the Greeks got writing from the Phonecians, perhaps a people related to the Jews, but the Jews never felt close to any others, even their Semitic cousins.

          • akmofo March 7, 2018 at 7:28 am #

            The “Phoenicians” are the tribe of DAN. They spoke Hebrew and used the Hebrew aleph-bet! See Tel DAN inscription. And not only are your alephbet characters Hebrew in origin, so are your math numerals!


            The “Greek Dorians” are DANites from the city of Dor, Israel. They traded glass, and if you follow the development and appearance of glass around the world, it matched exactly the sojourn of the Hebrews and exile/diaspora abroad.

            The largest slab of glass from antiquity was found buried in a Hebrew cemetery. The glass was meant for a window in the Jerusalem Temple, but that copy was defective and was buried in the Beit She’arim Jewish cemetery not far from my town, Haifa. Today this ancient Hebrew cemetery is a tourist cite belonging the Israel National Park Authority. The huge glass window is still there.

  54. FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 9:48 am #

    Conspiracy theories and Negro child with two heads


    A pregnant woman in a white suburban neighborhood wakes up her husband with a cry for a month, and then complains to him that she had a dream in which she gave birth to a negro with two heads. The poor husband is exhausted to the limit, and now the time of childbirth comes, the husband runs from corner to corner in the hospital, finally the nurse comes out and with a strange expression says:

    – Congratulations! Your son was born!
    – Negro?
    – Negro!
    – With two heads?
    – No, with one.
    – Oh…. Praise God!

    In this connection, I want to draw your attention once again, that conspiracy theory is usually not a result of too much imagination, but a carefully planned ideological operation ala the above anecdote.

    For example, I am sure that Russia’s interference in US elections is the same Negro with two heads story, flown into the circulation to disrupt the necessary and sane revision of true history of American-Russian relations.

    • thwack March 6, 2018 at 9:58 am #

      aren’t all men born with two heads?

      After all; thinking with our little head is why we lose


      • FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 10:00 am #

        I was talking about the thinking head, obviously not yours.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 6, 2018 at 2:04 pm #

      When the Antifa Mob see Alex Jones, they start screaming about gay frogs – totally ignorant of the growth of the hermaphrodite frogs. Being simpler, their forms are more plastic and more influenced by the estrogen like effects of plastics. Is the phenomena now spreading to higher forms of life – including Man?

      • akmofo March 6, 2018 at 2:41 pm #

        I guess your Vatican pederast faggots were eating plastic for the last 2000 years, breakfast lunch and dinner.


        • Janos Skorenzy March 6, 2018 at 6:03 pm #

          I thought you said the Romans were Jews or pro-Jews? It’s hard to keep such nonsense straight I suppose…

          • akmofo March 6, 2018 at 9:19 pm #

            Not hard at all. Quite soft actually. The tribe of DAN were idolaters who worshiped Cupid and Pan the gods of faggots. These seafaring faggots became the faggot Greeks who then become the faggot Romans. The faggot Vatican of today is mainly a nazi German establishment.

          • akmofo March 7, 2018 at 10:23 am #

            The faggot German nazis with their faggot nazi uniforms are the faggot DANites living along their faggot river DANube.

        • FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 7:34 pm #

          I guess your Vatican pederast faggots were eating plastic for the last 2000 years, breakfast lunch and dinner

          I think you are mistaken, Mofo. They’ve been eating plastic for just 1200 years, they only split from Orthodox around 800 AD.

          However, it is plausible that before they were closeted plastic eaters, than you may be right.

          • akmofo March 6, 2018 at 9:33 pm #

            Actually, as I explained to Yan, their faggotry goes all the way to the days of Moses. The tribe of DAN was allocated land north of the Golan mountains and thus were kept isolated from the rest of tribes of Israel. Pretty soon they made their way to the islands of the north Mediterranean, establishing what became Greek and then Roman colonies. These colonies then further developed into Irish, Scotish, and Danish/Scandinavian colonies. From there the faggotry probably travelled to the DON river, thus explaining Russian faggotry.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 12:18 am #

            Many Rabbis engage in pedophilia and other sexual misconduct. Israel has huge gay pride parades.

          • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 7:26 am #

            Faggotry. That thar word’s funny, I don’t care who you are!

  55. thwack March 6, 2018 at 10:08 am #

    I suspect Trump is getting pushback from the tariff and trade battles because his betters know the other sides can hurt you by interfering with your imperial endeavors and global power grabs…

    Savages are cheap and it don’t take many of them to fuck up your happy meal.

    Just sayin

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  56. JohnAZ March 6, 2018 at 10:25 am #

    I still have never heard exactly what Russia has actually done to “meddle” in our election. Specifically, what have they done to directly change a single vote, either direction, other than the standard propagandizing they have been using to try to influence our results. Russiagate is just another excuse by the Deep State to find ways to sow conflict within itself and justify its continuing ability to do absolutely nothing and get away with it. With a wink and a smile!

    • volodya March 6, 2018 at 11:19 am #

      You notice that the story keeps changing: the Republicans and Russians colluded (even when it was the Democrats and Russians colluding), the Russians meddled, the Russians sowed discord, the Russians did all of the above and they did it on the cheap with a handful of people. The story is preposterous on the face of it.

      But the problem here isn’t the Russians. If Hillary had won we wouldn’t hear a peep about collusion or meddling or sowing discord. That’s because the world had unfolded as it was supposed to.

      The problem is the election of Donald Trump. Hillary lost an unloseable election and the results have to be overturned by hook or by crook. The people that sit on top of the pyramid won’t have it any other way. This play is a long, long way from its last act.

      • thwack March 6, 2018 at 11:21 am #

        The Russians have an extra bone in their foot

      • Janos Skorenzy March 6, 2018 at 2:06 pm #

        The Media has to be taken over and then sold off to loyal American individuals and groups – with the State keeping one network for itself. Obviously PBS is ground zero for traitors so it won’t do. Or we could kick them out and take that one over – leaving not even one employee from the old regime.

  57. volodya March 6, 2018 at 10:50 am #

    Capt Spaulding

    This is a link to Matt Taibbi’s article about the Russia lunacy.

    The article isn’t about Mueller specifically but it talks about what Muller is a part of. And that is an effort by political elites to discredit anti-establishment or anti status-quo activists as being in league with Russians or being Russian stooges.


    • JohnAZ March 6, 2018 at 11:28 am #

      Good article. Reminds one of the Red Scare and Joe McCarthy but from the Deep State instead of the Right.

      Their disparaging comment about Trump I did not agree with. The Deep State is the most destructive element of American society now as it is creating the income inequality that is rotting the American economy from within and allowing the Elite to take over. The Russians are using cyber means to invade our culture but if it is working, it is because they are exploiting our weaknesses. I believe that the Progressive Left of our country is trying to overthrow the Constitution just as much as the Russians. Is there any sign of collusion between the Russians and the Progressives? Ask Devin Nunes or Trey Gowdy. The battle between the Russians love Trump folks and the Russians love the DNC and HRC folks may be a reflection on the real battle for America. Trump in my eyes is the one person in DC that wants to tear the Deep State down and deserves his four or eight years to do it. His failure may just be the end of America as a free state.

      • Janos Skorenzy March 6, 2018 at 2:09 pm #

        The Red Scare was real and Leftists of the time loved them and their actions in America. They hate Russia now because Russian has thrown off Communism and become Nationalist or Fascist. It’s too confusing for normies – thought it shouldn’t be. A restaurant keeps the same name but changes management and cooks. The food changes. Most people can understand that much.

        • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 7:24 am #

          Fascist? Hardly. Authoritarian? Yes. But benevolently for the most part. As compared to the US? Blatantly fascist with a thin veneer of artificial “democracy” laid over the top for PR purposes only. Trouble is, the cheap veneer is mostly worn off now.

  58. BuckP March 6, 2018 at 12:55 pm #

    Russia with a population of roughly 150 million people and a GDP commensurate with Texas appears to be America’s new Public Enemy No. 1. Even though they are no look longer the evil Communists, we are back to a Cold War posture with them. Their form of government is now a “kleptocratic authoritarianism” as opposed to our predatory unfettered capitalism. So why the strife? Two nuclear powers saber-rattling is precarious for the world.
    The following is excerpted from the book entitled 9/11SYNTHETIC TERROR: MADE IN TH USA by Webster Tarpley
    “Thus on the morning of 9/11, before a single hijacking had been reported, the US had assumed a strategic nuclear posture comparable to that observed during the Cuban middle crisis: B1 and B52 bombers were in the air, ballistic missle submarines were at their launch points, presumably near Russia and possibly China, and land-based ICBM’s were ready to launch. The air defenses of North America were also on high alert both in terms of interceptor aircraft and space assets. Everything, in short, was ready for a nuclear first strike, like the neocons have talked so much about in recent years. All of this was observed in real time from Moscow by General Leonid Ivanshov and his colleagues of the Russian General Staff.”
    I wonder why Russia is leery of the United States. Who is the aggressor here?

    • FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 1:09 pm #

      I am extremely disappointed in Webster Tarpley – the old Hillary-paid, anti-Bush conspiracy theorist, now turned Neocon with some kind of looney propositions of building a network of satellites-based lasers to shoot down Russian hypersonic missiles.

      Maybe he meant those lasers:

      Russia Claims It Now Has Lasers To Shoot Satellites


    • FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 1:12 pm #

      As I said, most of conspiracy in the US is the shadow part of the mainstream.

      You, as a reader, fucked any way you look at it.

  59. volodya March 6, 2018 at 1:29 pm #

    Hard to measure the full-of-shitness of this Russia thing but now it’s worse. Russia is getting blamed for Italy’s election outcome. According to Zerohedge, this is per Samantha Power, someone who ostensibly should know better. Now, the intelligentsia will tell you that Power is among the best and the brightest. But, if this is really the case, then, having heard this lamentable baloney attributed to her and if she’s indicative of the American Thinking Class, for the great experiment known as the United States of America, it’s all over but the cryin’.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 6, 2018 at 2:11 pm #

      She’s a curse as are the Rice’s, especially Susan – who should never hold any public office again.

    • JohnAZ March 6, 2018 at 2:23 pm #


      I like looking for the common factor. You said that it is being reported that the Italian election was meddled with by Russia. Hmm! Who is in the lead in Italy, Nationalists and populists. Hmm, again. Why would Russia, a supremely nationalist nation, want to mess with an election in Italy that has drifted right anyway. If they did it, it would be to stop the other side. Who benefits here if the Nationalists lose, who keeps popping up trying to control things for his globalist slant. He is losing his appeal as more and more people are figuring out what a creep he is. And Russia threw him out last year and put a price on his head. The Left and its leader is slowly losing ground. First Brexit, then Trump, now Italexit. France is next, then Germany.

      If one thinks that Russia is worried about the EU and wants to weaken it, maybe. It is pretty weak now. NATO is a shell. If Putin really wanted to push his way back into Europe, he would just do it. Who would stop him? Germany and France? Ha! Besides, Russians do not want any more Islamic problems anyway.

      • volodya March 6, 2018 at 3:07 pm #

        “Who benefits here if the Nationalists lose, who keeps popping up trying to control things for his globalist slant. He is losing his appeal as more and more people are figuring out what a creep he is. And Russia threw him out last year and put a price on his head”

        I’m a bit slow today. Who is it you’re talking about?

        • Q. Shtik March 6, 2018 at 10:55 pm #

          I’m a bit slow today. Who is it you’re talking about?


          I was asking myself that very question but then I just chalked it up to me being stupid.

  60. janet March 6, 2018 at 2:19 pm #

    “Thus on the morning of 9/11… Everything, in short, was ready for a nuclear first strike, like the neocons have talked so much about in recent years.” –Webster Tarpley via BuckP

    Nuclear first strike against whom? The 9/11 attackers were Saudis. We never had any intention to use nuclear weapons against Saudi Arabia.

    Whatever happened to that almighty threat called “extremist Islamic jihad” that frightened us into a $700 billion “defense” budget which is a waste of taxpayer dollars? We continue to ignore that Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states have funded and fueled extremist ideology; that the House of Saud is allowing a flow of money to finance ISIS and other extremist groups.

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    • FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 2:32 pm #

      Nuclear first strike against whom?

      Tarpley is right about that. On the day of 9/11 we were on a brink of nuclear war and Russia was conducting large scale exercises of Strategic Nuclear forces.

      When the news of 911 hit Moscow, Putin unsuccessfully tried getting Bush on the phone for several hours, and then decided just to cancel the exercises.

      I still do not know what the hell happened that day exactly, but apparently the Deep State just created by Hillary to oppose Bush attempted a coup d’etat under the cover of large scale terrorist attack.

    • FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 2:41 pm #

      I know – they found passports of the Saudi putsies, but the FBI might have as well found the passports of the 19 Russian “hackers” – crafty little bastards.

      Probably the decision which way to go was done at the last moment.

    • BuckP March 6, 2018 at 3:16 pm #


      The nuclear readiness drills on 9/11 were supposedly meant to intimidate the Russians Into going along with the invasion of Afghanistan and the placing of US bases in former Central Asian Soviet republics. The neocon’s PNAC think tank spelled out the American strategy to destabilize the Middle East prior to 9/11. According to Tarpley, there were 46 military or other government agency drills or war games just before, during and just after 9/11.
      The nuclear readiness drills were Glbal Guardian STRATCOM, Amalgam Warrior, Crown Vigilence and Apollo Guardian. The invasion plans for Afghanistan and the Patriot Act were developed prior to the 9/11 event.

      • BuckP March 6, 2018 at 3:29 pm #

        BTW, why would the House of Saud attack America? We are their main weapons supplier and protector. They return the favor by trading their oil in petrodollars, which saves our bacon, economically speaking.

    • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 7:19 am #

      Hate to break thus to you sugarbreeches, but the 9-11 masterminds were American and Israeli, and the “attackers” IDs were total fabrications.

  61. FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 2:23 pm #

    Russia is getting blamed for Italy’s election outcome == volodya

    Stp crying wolf.

    The most exciting and interesting part is still ahead. Let the Brexit forces win in old Good England, Trump in US and then we’ll see new Triple Entente forming between Russia, US and Great Britain to kick the shit out of the Fourth Reich in Europe and the Middle East.

    • GreenAlba March 6, 2018 at 3:24 pm #

      They’ll have to stop coming over to kill their people on our streets, first, Finca. Otherwise Boris is going to get in a right flap.



      Go on, tell me it was Hillary and her Flying Monkeys. I bet they did the poisoned umbrella trick when she was 30. 🙂

      • FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 4:25 pm #

        I don’t know, GA, may be our guys whacked him, and may be yours did – he was some kind of a used-up traitor, nobody cares about guys like that.

        The only thing I have a problem with is supposed lack of imagination on the KGB part – why wouldn’t they just push him under the invisible Hogwarts Express living the King’s Cross and repeated that weird polonium trick?

        • GreenAlba March 6, 2018 at 7:05 pm #

          Whoever it was got his daughter too – she hadn’t done anything.

          There’s no proof at this stage that it was the state. Could be the mafia – could be an individual getting back at him. Unlike the Litvinenko case, where the inquest ruled it was the state, i.e. Vlad. You can take the man out of the KGB but you can’t take the KGB out of the man.

          But the Russian people aren’t Vlad the Plutocrat, even if they vote for him.

          • FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 7:12 pm #

            It there was a collateral damage, than it’s definitely your guys.

            Our guys seem to be more precise, never heard Russians bombed the shit out of the wedding procession or a funeral.

          • GreenAlba March 6, 2018 at 7:45 pm #

            If it was something they ate, maybe she wasn’t meant to eat it. I really don’t see it being a Brit inside job. There’s no reason. It’s not as if we’re at some great rapprochement someone wants to derail.

            Not that it makes much sense for Vlad’s goons to do it either, since they apparently tend to respect the conditions of a spy swap. My money’s on individual or group vengeance, but still from the homeland.

        • ozone March 6, 2018 at 8:10 pm #

          Okay, who exactly are “our guys”?
          Some of us are starting to wonder what your specific citizenry is. Multiple passports under multiple names?
          The D.R. allows for dual citizenship, but it takes about 7 years before one is given free rein to engage in political activities other than a simple vote.

          To whom is your allegiance owed? (Besides yourself; we’ve figured that out already. More than ample evidence of a “hooray for me and fuck you” attitude.)

          • FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 10:36 pm #

            Since I am the sole Russian soul on this site, our guys mean

            The Russians! The Russians!! The Russians!!!


            So on this board I am engaged not in politics – obviously I’m not running for office – but in a free, nevertheless entertaining (I hope!), speech and not hiding my views on current events.

            Don’t you think that The Russians! The Russians!! The Russians!!! deserve some kind of representation here as a more or less interested side?

          • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 7:16 am #

            I think he’s mostly aligned with the investor class, regardless of nationality. Money will do that to you.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 6:08 pm #

            Remember, he’s a Jew. Does that clarify things?

      • FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 5:30 pm #

        Just another day in Moscow


        • GreenAlba March 6, 2018 at 7:06 pm #

          Courtesy of the tourist office. Adventure holidays in Moscow. 🙂

          • GreenAlba March 6, 2018 at 7:09 pm #

            In Belfast you can get a taxi tour of the sites of ‘The Troubles’. Bit tamer than your ‘Moscow short’, though.

  62. volodya March 6, 2018 at 3:31 pm #

    oh dear me,


    who saw this coming?

    • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 7:14 am #

      I’m feeling faint! Imagine!

  63. tucsonspur March 6, 2018 at 4:32 pm #

    Certainly not surprised at the Downer-Clinton connection. But certainly surprised that it hasn’t been out there.

    And what about the Erovinkin death and the block of Romney?

    This is CNN and Maddow, but I found the take interesting.


  64. FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 5:03 pm #

    Accidentally met yesterday on the beach with a pair from Ivano-Frankivsk (Ukraine).

    And for the sake of science (as it turned out arachnology) pretended to be a Judeo-Mason-Bandera. We discussed the new Russian weapons and Putin’s ultimatum.

    Well, I’ll tell you youuuu !!

    This hatred is something pathological, something antediluvian, in the sense of the before the Flood!

    All the same, Katasonov was right – the Cainites still exist, they do!!

    • elysianfield March 6, 2018 at 7:12 pm #

      Komraden Finc.

      I do not know about the Cainites existence, but Alba has assured us of the existence, and apparently the legitimacy, of the Catamites….

      • GreenAlba March 6, 2018 at 7:52 pm #

        You’re showing your ignorance, elysianfield. Doing exactly what Elrond predicted and confusing homosexuality with paedophilia. Or maybe it’s not ignorance, but rather manipulative disingenuousness.

        And my money was on Janos for that one.

        You need to let your sillier neuroses go, elysianfield. You can do it, and there are real problems out there that need seeing to. It’s a waste of emotional energy.

        • elysianfield March 6, 2018 at 11:07 pm #

          Sooo…I am to be impugned because of a play on words? In this case I will accept manipulative disingenuousness….

          • GreenAlba March 7, 2018 at 5:29 am #

            You are not impugned because of the play on words. You are impugned because of your slanderous statement involving me.

        • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 12:55 am #

          It is the next sexual pathology that will be normalized. And you will accept it when it is. WATCH (what Christ said in the Garden of Gethsemane).

          • GreenAlba March 7, 2018 at 5:31 am #

            More slander. But no surprise at all coming from you.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 3:01 pm #

            Surely you accept that children have Civil Rights? And isn’t choosing their own gender just one more civil right? And if such a child wants to take a lover, who are we to judge? That’s a small step compared to changing gender after all.


            And remember, many things are only wrong when done by White Heterosexual Men. When Muslims play with children, their own or ours, it’s fine. Universal Morality is only universal when convenient. This is Ingsoc or English Socialism.

          • elysianfield March 7, 2018 at 6:41 pm #

            “You are not impugned because of the play on words. You are impugned because of your slanderous statement involving me.”

            I will now stand and apologize for any slanderous statement that I made involving you…if you can reference it in context.

            My comments made to you are an attempt to honestly understand what, by parsing your replies, you are attempting to say…

            Humor aside, of course….

          • GreenAlba March 7, 2018 at 7:11 pm #


            This conversation must be tedious for people not involved in it, but since you ask…

            I hadn’t heard of Catamites, so I looked it up. I gather it refers to young boys involved in pederastic relationships with older men.

            You suggested I had ;assured [us/you] of the *legitimacy* of such pederastic relationships. And yet you have no evidence of that whatsoever, and I take umbrage at your suggestion.

            Elrond had already warned me that ‘someone’ would be along to suggest that homosexuality and paedophilia are the one and the same. They’re not in my mind or in the mind of anyone to whom the meanings of words matter.

            I am happy to accept that you didn’t genuinely mean to suggest I approve of paedophilia. Because that would be beyond the pale.

          • GreenAlba March 7, 2018 at 7:52 pm #


            As usual, you mix everything up in a manipulative word salad.

            So, to be clear, let’s recap on what I have actually said, which is that homosexuality exists and has always existed. It is biological, immutable and not amenable to change by therapies devised by ignoramuses and people of ill will who do not understand – or do not want to accept – the nature of homosexuality. It is not a choice.

            The fact that some celebrity attention seekers may go in for what one might call fashionable sexual fluidity, as opposed to whatever genuine innate fluidity may exist in some individuals, does not change this for the vast bulk of humanity. A person born to be homosexual is not capable of becoming heterosexual (a) to try to please his/her parents, (b) to try to placate ‘God’, or (c) as a result of any misguided ‘therapy’.

            Homosexuals exist because homosexuals exist. To treat them as secondary humans is as immoral as to treat someone as a secondary human because they have red hair, are an albino, or have six toes on each foot. The word ‘immoral’ bears repeating in the circumstance.

            Now, because you can’t actually respond to the reality of the existence of homosexuality as a phenomenon that just *is*, though nobody’s fault, you deviously extrapolate to try to suggest that a person stating a simple fact about homosexuality must be claiming legitimacy for all sorts of sexual practices which they have not even mentioned. Specifically, you like to link homosexuality to paedophilia, hence your drivel about children’s rights, gender choices and English socialism, whatever the f*ck that is.

            I will not be drawn into your manipulative meanderings. I looked cursorily through your linked page about the Convention on the Rights of the Child and I see nothing about the nonsense you are talking about.

            If you are too stupid and ignorant to understand the nature of homosexuality in the human species, I can’t help you. As has been said already on these pages, there’s no cure for stupid. The educated stupid are possibly the least amenable to enlightenment. But should you wish to aim for enlightenment, there is no shortage of academic texts at your disposal, written by people who do actually know what they’re talking about. They’re called biologists. And they’ve spent their lives studying biology. They aren’t comparable to some moron, even a clever moron, spewing out his prejudices on a website.

            It’s my birthday, so I’ve had several glasses of nice wine. Hence my tone and my unwillingness to listen to any more of your crap, for the time being.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 9:47 pm #

            So you reject children having the right to change their gender? Or letting parents raise their child as the opposite gender? Or encouraging little boys to dress like female strippers?

            All of this and more is happening – and it all seems to be legal since nothing is being done to stop it. The Left seems to approve of this kind of thing – and you are leftish it would seem since the BBC is. Or are you abstaining from taking a position until that the State makes their position more clear? That would be wise indeed… It’s not easy keeping up with the Dialectic!

            Happy B day. How old are you?

          • GreenAlba March 8, 2018 at 6:21 am #


            “Happy B day. How old are you?”

            Thank you. I am older than you, but you knew that. And older than I look, which you didn’t. Or so they tell me. 🙂

            Now, to your post, which I address this morning in a state of complete sobriety (I think) and without even the benefit of my first morning cuppa.

            Let’s try again…

            “So you reject children having the right to change their
            gender? ”

            The first word there is the first problem word. ‘So’ suggests that your question follows on from what I said about homosexuality. Any yet it clearly doesn’t. There is nothing in my screed above, even with the benefit of the several glasses of wine that tipped me over the edge into exasperation, that connects it with any of it.

            This, I repeat, is your modus operandi. You are not at liberty to assume I think anything that I have not said, one way or the other. Neither are you at liberty to *assume* my views on one thing from my stated views on another. That would be laziness and arrogance on your part.

            “The Left seems to approve of this kind of thing – and you
            are leftish it would seem since the BBC is. ”

            Where to even start with a ‘hypothesis’ this desperate?

            Janos, I’ll tell you what. When you have figured out what the biological reality of simple unembellished homosexuality means AND when you have worked out what that means in terms of the way you should feel morally obliged to treat homosexuals, we can move on to problems that require more sophisticated and refined reasoning.

            “So you reject ….encouraging little boys to dress like female

            Janos, I don’t even like little girls dressing up like female strippers. I don’t like tee-shirts that say ‘when I grow up I’m going to be a porn star’. I don’t even care for tee-shirts that say ‘I’m mummy’s little princess’. I’m just not a fan of tee-shirt communication (or indeed bringing up little girls to think they’re princesses) and I’m not a fan of strippers. How socially conservative of me.

            (I realise it was me who introduced tee-shirts here, but that was just because I did see an actual tee-shirt on a child that said ‘when I grow up I’m going to be a porn star’ and for a brief moment it made me despair. I suppose it was meant to suggest female empowerment or something. That’s why it made me despair, apart from the obvious outrage of sticking your stupid views on your tiny child’s chest.)

            Re strippers, I suppose what I should really say is that I find it unfortunate that aspects of male sexuality necessitate the existence of a cohort of (generally) the lower orders to strip off for them and to have sex in front of cameras so that modern man is never more than two seconds away from tits, arse or seeing any imaginable thing he fancies done to a woman (I realise 30% of women also watch this crud nowadays and that stuff is done to men too, but let’s not forget where the critical mass lies). Again, how socially conservative of me.

            But I digress. Although while we’re here, I do sometimes wonder how many homophobic men are nevertheless happy to watch a bit of girl on girl on screen when their wives go out. That would make them pretty appalling hypocrites, wouldn’t it? So let’s hope none of the homophobes on this site fall into that category.

            “Or are you abstaining from taking a position until that the State makes their position more clear?”

            ‘The State’ doesn’t have a view on such things in my country.
            Citizens have a view on these things. Individual politicians, who are also citizens, but also members of political parties, have a view on these things. Sometimes Royal Commissions are brought into being to thrash out expert views on these things.

            When enough citizens – or even enough MPs (who are also citizens, but who get letters from their constituents asking questions and stating their views) overwhelmingly have a consensus on such things, laws sometimes change. In the meantime I make up my own mind, from what limited knowledge I have.

            ” That would be wise indeed… It’s not easy keeping up with
            the Dialectic!”

            Who would ‘the state’ be in this situation anyway? The Tory government I didn’t vote for? Who are what…cultural Marxists or something? Like Jacob Rees-Mogg, the MP for the 18th Century? I don’t know how you cope with that thought salad you keep tossing, in racist and antisemitic vinaigrette dressing, in that seething, disgruntled brain of yours.

  65. janet March 6, 2018 at 8:19 pm #

    “It there was a collateral damage, than it’s definitely your guys. Our guys seem to be more precise, never heard Russians bombed the shit out of the wedding procession or a funeral.” –finca

    Uh, not really, finca. Russian bombing errors also happen, bombing both civilians and allied fighters.

    Russian warplanes carried out air strikes on a village in eastern Syria on Sunday, which activists say killed dozens of civilians.
    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said 53 people died in al-Shafah, while website DeirEzzor24 put the toll at 25.

    Russian aircraft mistakenly bombed Syrian Arab fighters who were being trained by the United States, the commander of the American-led operation in Iraq and Syria said Wednesday. American advisers were about three miles away when the Russian strike occurred.

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    • FincaInTheMountains March 6, 2018 at 10:04 pm #

      American advisers were about three miles away when the Russian strike occurred.

      Did our guys missed by 3 miles?! Incredible!!

  66. BackRowHeckler March 6, 2018 at 8:26 pm #

    I wonder what happened th JimInFlorida?

    He posted frequently here (some pretty interesting stuff too) then right about when the hurricane hit the east coast of Florida in August 2017 he went dark.

    Also, maybe he looked around, sized up the situation, took it seriously, suddenly realizing the peril we all of us are in, and like a lecturer in Russian History at Moscow University in 1936, or a Jewish doctor in Weimar in 1939, decided discretion is the better part of valor, donned workingman’s clothing, and quietly slipped away to some small town or rural place to do manual labor, laying low, keeping his head down, keeping his own counsel, confiding in no one, and waiting for the storm to pass.


    • elysianfield March 6, 2018 at 11:38 pm #

      ” waiting for the storm to pass.”

      I would suggest that the storm has yet to appear. As far as laying low is concerned…lists are being made, names are being taken, and the institutional memory of our betters is long….

      Yakov Smirnov’s take on this;

      In the United States, you go looking for a party,

      In the Soviet Union, the party finds you…;

      JIF is probably somewhere on Airstrip One, hunkered down as you suggest….

      • elysianfield March 8, 2018 at 1:09 pm #

        …or he suffered Herem?

    • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 7:12 am #

      donned workingman’s clothing

      Say what? That’s the one thing that will get you spotlighted immediately in the US these days. The only people actually working these days are the “third world brown types” we import to do it. All the white people are wise to the game and simply refuse to play.

  67. janet March 6, 2018 at 10:58 pm #


    President Trump offered his own solution to prevent Russia meddling in the 2018 midterm elections saying, “it’s called paper.” He suggested a “paper backup system” for voting when asked about how to combat Russia’s meddling at a joint press conference with Prime Minister Stefan Löfven of Sweden.

    Trump isn’t wrong that many states have a paper trail of votes — but not every state has a paper trail of votes right now. That means they are unable to verify with a 100% guarantee that the result of an election is exactly how voters cast their ballots. Five states lack a paper trail in their voting systems and use solely electronic voting machines.

    If every purchase you make in WalMart has a paper trail, it can’t be that hard to implement the same for votes cast. You should get a paper receipt for casting your vote.

    • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 7:03 am #

      Paper trails can be messed with too and are more prone to human error, especially if tabulators and monitors are in short supply and/or politically biased, which of course they will be. Remember hanging chads?

      • janet March 7, 2018 at 8:54 am #

        Did the guy whose vote was considered a “hanging chad” have a paper receipt which would have solved the whole issue of his/her true intent? You are making the case for paper.

        • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 10:23 am #

          Umm… no I’m not. Anything can be manipulated and paper can and does just plain get lost. It might still be a “better” solution, but it’s still definitely not hack proof. Not in the least.

          • JohnAZ March 7, 2018 at 12:12 pm #

            Voter fraud is an interesting item to try to curtail. Basically how does the state ensure only legal citizens have the ability to vote and then only once. It seems to me that the former should be a snap in a country that is so far down the learning curve with the algorithmic analysis of the voter data base. No wait, we cannot even track gun purchases, and the politics cannot even decide what a citizen is. The latter might be solved using a technique I saw in a ME election a few years back. As each person voted, they stuck their finger into purple indelible ink. Inked finger, no more voting. As the real controlling party in DC is the Democrats, we will not see real voter control.

      • Elrond Hubbard March 7, 2018 at 12:07 pm #

        Ol’ Scratch: Hand-marked paper ballots, counted in public, are the gold standard for reliable, theft-proof elections. The best way to secure an election is to go old-fashioned: paper ballots are much harder to fake than electronic records, and a public counting process, with lots of eyes on it, rules out many shenanigans.

        I would encourage every American voter who cares about the integrity of their elections to look into the Securing America’s Elections Act introduced by Rep. Tulsi Gabbard last week:



        • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 12:47 pm #

          …and a public counting process, with lots of eyes on it, rules out many shenanigans.

          That’s the story line anyway. Once again, we have to go no further back than to the year 2000 to see how easily such a process can be subverted. Where there’s a will, there’s way. Better than electronic? Yes, almost certainly (and much more costly and labor intensive as well). But bulletproof, especially in our current partisan atmosphere? Hardly.

          • Elrond Hubbard March 7, 2018 at 1:12 pm #

            The big shenanigan in the 2000 election occurred in the Supreme Court, not at ground level. In that case, the result in one Florida district was close enough that it came down to just a few ballots that were seemingly ambiguous.

            First, that’s not a common occurrence; and second, the correct thing to do (for anyone who respects democracy) would have been a recount — based on the actual ballots, whatever their deficiencies. The Supreme Court foreclosed this and declared the election over, using a novel legal interpretation and disclaiming responsibility for it in the same breath (declaring that their decision was ‘limited to the present circumstances’).

            All of the above points to a problem with the Supreme Court, not with paper ballots. You have to fix these things where you find them. Think of paper ballots as a warm-up for the main event — i.e., getting money out of politics and making government represent people again instead of dollars.

          • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 1:26 pm #

            Well, but that’s how it works, Elrond. You deliver the full court press. Al hands on deck. And FL was as much a problem on the ground before hand as it was with the supremes after. Voter de-registration and simply destroying and/or substituting ballots is all too easy to do. And on a national level (not that that can be mandated anyway, it’s a state’s right to choose)?

  68. K-Dog March 7, 2018 at 3:38 am #

    I wonder why trolls are becoming more active here. It means something. But what? A change in their bonus structure?

    It is not like there is a lot of intelligent conversation to suppress here but looking for reasons which make sense is probably not a good use of anyone’s time. In particular mine.

    I was watching a flat screen while riding an exercise bike today. Dogs need exercise to be healthy. I could not hear the sound which gave me an interesting perspective. It was CNN and Trump was the subject. I could read the subtitles which I am sure were processed much differently by my brain than the audio would have been.

    It was clear that CNN is out to get Trump and doing everything they can to portray him in a bad light. Substance is irrelevant. It is all shameless propaganda.

    So here it is early Wednesday and the comment count of an article critical of the anti-Trump witch hunt is higher than most weeks total count. We are being buried in trolldom. Could this be connected to the increased media effort to dump Trump? I’ll go out on a limb and say yes. Tariffs are hated by the deep state globalists and for this they’ll have Trump’s hair as a new welcome mat for the next man who would be king.

    Mass media at the front end and the troll army at the back end. All bases covered.

    • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 7:09 am #

      I don’t doubt it Dog. Get you an extra helping of kibble this morning.

      • K-Dog March 7, 2018 at 10:50 am #

        But we have Gravitars which follow the email we registered on this site with. I know I’m real and since you have a handsome mug here as well, I figure you are most likely real too as are the others here with Gravitars. Trolls are not going to bother with keeping their Gravitars synced up with every new email address they have to come up with every time they need a new one when one of their old ones gets banned.

        The only Kibbles I get are kibbles I earn at a real job. I do better than your average $45 kibble an hour troll anyway. Neener neener.

        • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 11:06 am #

          Watching TV News on the exercise bike is an excellent way to focus the mind on the true “message” they’re trying to convey. In between the nearly constant commercial breaks anyway. Stumbled on this book free on Kindle the other day. It’s mostly a review for us old heads, but an easy read (dog friendly!) and good information nonetheless:


    • janet March 7, 2018 at 9:01 am #

      My last post was pro-Trump, crediting him with a good idea to solve election fraud. It may be you are labeling valid criticism as trolling. Follow the money. It goes from Russia, through the Seychelles, directly to Trump. It was secret. It was Trump-Russia collusion. It is also illegal. It does not surprise me that Blackwater was involved.

      WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Erik Prince, founder of military contractor Blackwater and a supporter of President Donald Trump, told U.S. lawmakers he had discussed U.S.-Russia relations during a meeting in the Seychelles with a Russian business executive with ties to the Kremlin.

      • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 10:38 am #

        So much innuendo, so little substance.

      • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 11:10 am #

        Ham-handed, garden variety corruption in plain sight for all to see? Almost certainly. Collusion to seriously influence an election? From Trump and this cast of bozos? It’s just incredible to me that anyone could actually be simple minded enough to even entertain such a notion. Only in America.

  69. FincaInTheMountains March 7, 2018 at 6:30 am #

    thinking with our little head is why we lose == thwack

    A popular (specifically or Thwack) explanation of current military-strategic balance


  70. FincaInTheMountains March 7, 2018 at 7:06 am #

    Regime change on a Global Scale by the end of March?

    It appears that in a dilemma whether to save the dollar-based international monetary system at the expense of American economy, or to save the American economy at the expense of the international monetary system, Trump has chosen the American Economy.

    President Trump: Replace The Dollar With Gold As The Global Currency To Make America Great Again

    Trump’s politically unique intuition that “We used to have a very, very solid country because it was based on a gold standard” is no trivial matter. It is true.


    The metals tariffs hikes should be viewed from that angle: charging the foreign goods producers a fee for access to the American markets aimed at easing the trade deficit impact.

    We’re going back closer to original Roosevelt vision of the Bretton-Woods standard.

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    • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 10:58 am #

      From the linked article:

      The French called this period les trente glorieuses, the 30 glorious years. Germans spoke of the Wirtschaftswunder, the economic miracle, while the Japanese, more modestly, referred to “the era of high economic growth.” In the English-speaking countries, it has more commonly been called the Golden Age.
      “The Golden Age was the first sustained period of economic growth in most countries since the 1920s. But it was built on far more than just pent-up demand and the stimulus of the postwar baby boom. Unprecedented productivity growth around the world made the Golden Age possible. In the 25 years that ended in 1973, the amount produced in an hour of work roughly doubled in the U.S. and Canada, tripled in Europe and quintupled in Japan.

      They should have stopped right there, before adding this:
      Levinson, whose column uses “Golden Age” as its leitmotif, strangely fails to make the connection between, or even explore, the fact that the era he calls the Golden Age correlated precisely with America (and the world) being on a form of gold standard, particularly the modified gold standard known as the Bretton Woods System. (Bretton Woods had the inherent flaw of using the dollar as an international reserve asset but, until that flaw undermined it, it served equitable prosperity.)

      While the wisdom of deserting the gold standard on any number of other grounds can certainly be debated, ascribing post WWII prosperity to it is simply beyond absurd.

      • JohnAZ March 7, 2018 at 11:47 am #

        You mentioned that the Golden Age ended in 1973. I offer that the shock of the oil crisis and the fact that the pre-fracking US oil production peak both occurred in 1973. Restricted economic growth and its consequences have occurred since. Fracking is trying hard to keep up but by its nature, as discussed many times here, it cannot.

        • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 12:43 pm #

          Pretty much what I was thinking as well. That and the post war reconstruction and population baby blooms were pretty much spent by then.

    • FincaInTheMountains March 7, 2018 at 12:19 pm #

      Most likely we’re NOT talking the strict gold standard, the nations will continue to print their electronic and paper currencies, but the ability of the Central Banks to settle in gold the accrued trade deficit.

      How often and in what minimum amounts will be negotiated bilaterally.

      Now it is gold, tomorrow it could be thermonuclear fuel Helium 3, which Elon Musk will soon start mining on the Moon.

      • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 12:41 pm #

        Now it is gold, tomorrow it could be thermonuclear fuel Helium 3, which Elon Musk will soon start mining on the Moon.

        Lol! A true believer, eh? How about grain alcohol infused bong smoke?

  71. Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 7:07 am #

    Another Goldman acolyte jumps ship. No need to mention his ethnic/religious/tribal persuasion, which is, of course, obvious. I’m guessing he was maintaining an office at Goldman all along in sure anticipation of this day. Ahh, the revolving door, she still swings freely!


    • pequiste March 7, 2018 at 8:12 am #

      He didn’t need to stay any longer; unlike Treasury Secretary Munchkin, whose office is down the street, he gained the most up to date intel directly from the White House where he worked. The controllers at GOldman Sacks will be tickled to have him back.

      Is there any doubt that the next person to occupy the now vacated Chief Economic advisor job will be from Goldman Sacks again?

      In real news of significance, voluptuous porn star Stormy Daniels is suing DJT, as her attorney considers the privacy agreement made with Trump’s lawyer, a Mr. Cohen, Esq., invalid. She’s going for the sacks of gold, man.

      Taking action like this against the Chief Executive, it is easy to see there could be a very bright and lucrative political future for Stormy should she decide to become a member of the big bordello on Capitol Hill.

      • FincaInTheMountains March 7, 2018 at 9:30 am #

        bright and lucrative political future for Stormy should she decide to become a member of the big bordello on Capitol Hill

        Personally, I think she’s made a grave miscalculation – it will not change a yota in current support (or animosity) toward Trump.

        On the contrary, the Trump’s base will be rejoiced to have a healthy vigorous president for the next very critical for the country 7 years.

        • janet March 7, 2018 at 9:52 am #

          It might force Trump to go public on some things he would rather remain private. But he sowed the wind, so reaps the whirlwind.

          • pequiste March 7, 2018 at 10:28 am #

            What DJT did is what’s known as sowing “wild oats”.

            And reaping the publicity that comes with it.

            What about those yet-to-surface videos? Democrats, Deep Staters. Never Trumpers, State Security apparatchiks, foreign leaders…almost everyone, would love to get their greasy hands on that haul.

            (This is just another example of why personal privacy is going to become the scarcest resource in the entire God forsaken world.)

      • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 10:20 am #

        Goldman Sacks and Sacks of Gold. Nicely played!

  72. FincaInTheMountains March 7, 2018 at 9:57 am #

    Is there any doubt that the next person to occupy the now vacated Chief Economic advisor job will be from Goldman Sacks again?

    On the contrary, I am very confident (from my private confidential sources) that the next Treasury Secretary will be one Smickler Schmulevich, currently running a small, but very lucrative pawn-shop on Devon avenue in Chicago.

    • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 10:37 am #

      Not your best work, Finc.

      • FincaInTheMountains March 7, 2018 at 10:48 am #

        I got my own literary critic!

        Am I considered for Pulitzer?

        • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 12:38 pm #

          Not quite old buddy. Keep it up though, and we’ll see about a Razzie.

  73. wm5135 March 7, 2018 at 12:17 pm #

    A Pharma advertising campaign centered around Ms. Daniels? Aleve ain’t the only blue pill.

    quotes Thwack – “just sayin”

  74. tucsonspur March 7, 2018 at 12:50 pm #

    Okay Jim, let’s light it up. Dreams and nightmares, and reality too, light up the days and nights.

    MAGA not MAKA and DACA is CACA and DACA is doo doo and doo doo is DACA. And DACA is voodoo.

    Sam Nunberg was on Erin Burnett, and if he wasn’t the full three sheets to the wind, he was at least one or two, and on national television Erin tells him, “I smell liquor on your breath”. Jesus Erin, why not just cut his nuts off, right then and there!

    Stormy Daniels is back, suing Trump, and she says that she can “describe his junk perfectly”, and that the sex was generic. Me too with a vengeance. I was four years old, in my booties, jumping up and down, screaming, “can I fuck you too?”, “can I fuck you too?”. I’ll show that slut some “junk”.

    OD’ing is at record levels, and the mantra of the sixties, tune in, turn on, drop out has been turned into just drop out-dead. Lord have Mercy.

    Horse face Mueller galloped through my dreams last night and piled enough horseshit on me to fertilize ten acres. It was washed off by Prince’s “Purple Rain” and then rainbows arced the sky and Hillary was arrested and her prison uniform was not at all flattering to those bodacious buttocks. Mueller will shell another nut, open another clam. C’est la vie.

    It’s bad enough that the politician’s continue to moon me with their ugly butts, but to see them expel their odious, voluminous excrement is beyond declasse.

    And then it was the Oscars with some black dude rapping an all enveloping love ditty taking us all in, immigrants, illegals, ingrates, just about everything that walks or crawls. I was sitting next to Frances McDormand, nervously inching away, trying to escape her “inclusion”. Did she just “play” that murderous man killer?

    The craziness pounds my ears and I shout, like Marlon Brando, “I’m going to take it out of their skulls!” “I’m going to take it out of their fucking skulls” I keep shouting, until an agitated neighbor threatened to punch my lights out. Oh, you better believe it, it was right there in the corner, all spelled out, “Awesomely Righteous”.

    Cops letting kids die. In Browar….well excuse me, in Coward County.
    Wasn’t that Kenney Rogers?

    Little Kim now wants to talk, after years of threatening to blow us Yankee, capitalist dogs to smithereens with half-assed missiles. And not so lovely London seems to be dealing with a growing litter problem. Dead Russians.

    Sessions is gonna see about sacrilegious cities. It’s not just the Iranians shouting, “Death to America!” It’s mayors and governors right here in the US.

    “Nurse Ratchet! Nurse Ratchet! No, I don’t want my cigarettes, I don’t want my cigarettes. (sob, sob, sob). I want the red button, I want the red button, Nurse Ratchet (sob, sob, sob), I want that fucking red button!”

    • GreenAlba March 7, 2018 at 1:07 pm #

      Would a nice cup of tea help, TS?

      Over here it’s a panacea. 🙂

      • tucsonspur March 7, 2018 at 2:56 pm #

        Hey thanks, but like the great Dylan, “I started out on Burgundy but soon hit the harder stuff….”

        A whiskey double with a beer chaser might work.

    • Q. Shtik March 7, 2018 at 2:00 pm #

      Nurse Ratchet!


      It’s a common error…her name is Ratched.

      • tucsonspur March 7, 2018 at 2:49 pm #

        I thought I’d get called on Salisbury. Wretched Ratched. Ha. Ha.

  75. sprawlcapital March 7, 2018 at 1:15 pm #

    A guest on the Tucker Carlson show this evening on Fox will be Jordan Peterson, who may have originated the term “Social Justice Warriors”. He has the new book Twelve Rules for Life flying off bookstore shelves. And he refuses to use transgender pronouns like “zhe” and “zher”.

    I just learned of Jordan Peterson two days ago, listening to part of a podcast, and already he is on national TV. This should be interesting.

    8 pm eastern; 7 pm central.

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    • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 1:47 pm #

      One early Marxist Feminist said, “I want a Revolution I can dance to” – code for free sex. When an older Party Member walked in with her much younger lover, Stalin made an off color joke and Trotsky lectured him on Communist philosophy. Stalin hated him after that. A most unwise thing to have done.

      In short, Communism has always advocated an extreme form of unbalanced individualism, basically bogus since it while it endorses free expression, it crushes it in reality in the most essential ways of life, liberty, making a living, writing, and free association. And once they secured Power, the free love stuff was strongly discouraged, as in an over night change on a dime. After all, they wanted social stability to meet five years plans – and freakiness of all kinds get in the way of that.

      So it’s basically a bait and switch, yet it continues to this day in regards to immigration: Every “person” has the right to go wherever they want on the planet and any national or ethnic boundaries are just so much tyranny to be uprooted by benevolent big brother and sister. And of course the sexual expression delusion is back beyond the wildest imaginings of earlier commie and anarchist pervs.

      Our system likes Jordan because he’s reigning in some of the madness (which they also like). Society can’t collapse just yet as it has to remain strong enough to cancel out Islam in the next World War. Once they both have destroyed each other, the Global Elite will have a free hand to implement their real desires.

      • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 1:51 pm #

        Likewise in art: the decadent and weird stuff is just to help demoralize Western Culture. Once in control, it’s all crude posters of healthy, strong, and wholesome comrades in Wheat fields and factories.

        You people have to learn the Systems of Control. Real Art is all but outlawed now, being kept out of the “galleries”. People who like modern art simply have no taste whatsoever and/or they are degenerates.

        • Buck Stud March 7, 2018 at 2:57 pm #

          And what about all the American Christian evangelicals who are offended by, and want to censor, the nude in art?

          Funny how you don’t mention that, when speaking of decadence and degenerates and stupid people in general.

          And BTW, you ought to learn the difference between “modern” and “post-modern” because in truth, the formal aspects of “modern” art that were highlighted during that era, have in fact been championed throughout the history of art: the formal properties–design/composition/color/line/shape/value etc–are the building blocks of “real art” irrespective of subject matter.

          And of course one doesn’t have to look far to see how trite and banal art can become when the formal properties are neglected in favor of elevating “narrative/subject” ….

          • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 6:00 pm #

            Perhaps valid points. But nothing is worse than the systematic destruction of the sense of beauty is so called art school. When there “finished”, art is just “intention. So one can take a dump on the floor, put a frame around it, and call it macaroni. The wealthy vulgarians will pay millions for it.

          • malthuss March 8, 2018 at 11:25 am #

            What about the gorilla statue?
            Texans too are fools.

            “post-modern” –Like the junk in Art Forum?

        • San Jose March 7, 2018 at 4:16 pm #

          Some modern art is atrocious, but there are jewels among the heap. I adore Mark Rothko.

          I heard about Jordon Peterson just a month ago. My 20-something-son is reading Peterson’s with great intensity. Loves what Peterson has to say about integrity and responsibility.

          Jen in San Jose

          • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 5:57 pm #

            Women love Peterson and his message of male servitude and burden bearing. But the need of the Hour is to shrug like Atlas and let this corrupt order come crashing down.

            Cubism is at least partly based on a geometrical art from Central Africa. Some of the native artists were shown some samples of it and they were horrified. Somehow our “geniuses” had corrupted it. In Boston, there was a guy who had a whole student orchestra based on corrupting traditional Indonesian music.

          • San Jose March 7, 2018 at 6:39 pm #

            Rothko and cubism? You’re delusional!

          • Q. Shtik March 7, 2018 at 8:51 pm #

            Rothko’s rectangles of varying shades of color do nothing for me. When I look at that sort of “art” I feel like someone is trying to dupe me. No offense Jen.

          • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 9:49 pm #

            I didn’t say that since I don’t know his work per se. I just brought it up in a general way to illustrate a principle.

          • malthuss March 8, 2018 at 11:23 am #

            I like Rothkos works. I even read a large book on him.
            I forget the title of the book.

    • tucsonspur March 7, 2018 at 3:06 pm #

      A week or two ago I posted a video link of Jordan with Carlson, and he was talking about so called “male toxicity” and the dangers associated with the denigration of the male and patriarchy.

      • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 3:09 pm #

        He’s a great speaker. Takes no bullshit whatsoever.

        • Q. Shtik March 7, 2018 at 3:53 pm #

          He’s a great speaker. – Scratch


          Who, Jordan or Carlson?

          • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 5:22 pm #


      • Q. Shtik March 7, 2018 at 3:52 pm #

        I posted a video link of Jordan with Carlson, and he was talking about – tucson


        Who, Jordan or Carlson?

  76. volodya March 7, 2018 at 1:49 pm #

    The globalists and their shills say that tariffs mean economic armageddon. But these people are carefully scripted. They invariably fail to note that for the interior of the U.S. economic armaggedon has already taken place. Go to the multitude of ruined American cities and see for yourself.

    The tariffs send a message, actually several messages:

    1) the prediction that China would democratize and liberalize as the US offshored American industry to China and helped China to modernize and grow its economy was at best wrong, at worst a complete fucking lie

    2) the prediction that as American jobs were offshored to China new jobs would appear in the US as a result of global economic growth was at best wrong, at worst a complete fucking lie

    3) the tariffs are an acknowledgment that the present day globalist scheme for production and consumption can’t work and will never work

    4) if you want to sell a product in the US you will have to produce it in the US

    • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 3:07 pm #

      But you forget, vol, that many if not most of the imports to the US come by way of US multi-nationals or their foreign subsidiaries who were part of the original off-shoring in the first place. I doubt tariffs will mean anything close to economic Armageddon, but in the short term (maybe up to 5 years or more) at least, they’ll mostly mean higher prices for Americans who can ill afford them, and/or increased prices and corresponding demand reductions for our exports. Multi-nationals realize the truth of things: the American market for working class commodities is mostly saturated already and the most lucrative growth opportunities lie elsewhere. Besides which, multi-nationals largely own the American government anyway, so tariffs are mostly an empty gesture. There’s always ways around regulatory measures.

      • tucsonspur March 7, 2018 at 3:35 pm #

        What, no “Tariff of Abominations”?

        • Ol' Scratch March 7, 2018 at 5:21 pm #

          Most likely it’s primarily a gesture to strengthen US bargaining position, a tactic Trump was well known for in the private sector. But no telling how it will play out in this much higher stakes international game. I think the press is probably blowing it out of proportion (imagine that!) either way.

      • ozone March 7, 2018 at 7:37 pm #

        You is kee-rekt. A win-win-winsomemore for a few; a lose-lose for us no’count lumpen/marks. Accident or design?

        • Ol' Scratch March 8, 2018 at 10:29 am #

          Design, of course!

      • akmofo March 8, 2018 at 7:36 am #

        When you have a job and an industry because of tariffs you can certainly afford tariffs and whatever nonsense theoretical price increase they might bring. When you don’t have a job and an industry, you can’t afford shit.

        Employment is what makes an economy, not theoretical lower prices for people who are unemployed.

        Trump is breaking the mold. And to break the mold you need to break the mold.

        • Ol' Scratch March 8, 2018 at 10:32 am #

          People still manage to afford things, no matter how destitute. So yes, price increases do still matter. Even more for them than the rest of us, quite obviously.

          • akmofo March 8, 2018 at 2:55 pm #

            Amazing what commie propaganda can do. Why are you talking about managing destitution? Move to Russia where you belong.

      • volodya March 8, 2018 at 10:06 am #

        Ol Scratch, you say

        “But you forget, vol, that many if not most of the imports to the US come by way of US multi-nationals or their foreign subsidiaries who were part of the original off-shoring in the first place. ”

        I haven’t forgotten it, in fact, this has been my point all along, for a long time now. I’ve been making the following points also;

        – that offshoring as an economic strategy is self defeating because in utilizing foreign slave wage foreign labor and in laying off a formerly well paid American work-force, American companies destroy the consumer demand and therefore the market for their goods.

        – that the gigantic and insupportable increases in the trade deficit, household debt and government debt are all symptomatic of a global production and consumption arrangement that can’t work. It can’t work because the American consumer market for goods no longer has the income to purchase those goods.

        – that the tens of millions (ie 90 million) Americans or working age that are out of the work-force is also symptomatic of this un-workable global production and consumption arrangement

        – that the visually apparent ruin of American cities is also a symptom.

        There’s more Ol Scratch but to re-iterate it all would take a very long essay.

        Akmofo is right about this much, if a product increases in price from $20 to $25 because of tariffs it makes no difference to the tens of millions of Deplorables that were reduced to destitution by off-shoring because they couldn’t afford the $20 never mind the $25.

        I put the blame for all this on the American Oligarch class, their managerial clerisy that administered this debacle, the multiple presidential administrations and the multitude of legislators that oversaw it and enabled it via international trade and investment agreements. Don’t blame the foreigners for this. This was home-grown. It represents a historic betrayal of the American worker and the USA as a whole.

        • Ol' Scratch March 8, 2018 at 10:29 am #

          Ok, I stand corrected.

          I wouldn’t say that tariff increases make no difference to individual deplorable consumers, as the filter down effect to dependent products is quite long and diverse and will affect the price for lot of things (such as soft drinks in cans), but it will likely be diluted.

          Like I said, I view Trump’s actions primarily as an attempt (perhaps ill-advised) to strengthen the US negotiating position in international agreements, and secondarily as a blatant political appeal to his base. I think it’s likely to be subverted in any number of ways should it become too onerous, and almost certainly repealed as soon as he’s gone. He’s simply out of his depth here trying to use tactics like this in isolation.

    • ozone March 7, 2018 at 7:30 pm #

      About those plum jobs (#2); we were going to be on the cutting edge of “information technologyyyyyy” (cue massive reverb) and had no more need for all those grimy jobs that involve making actual wares/merchandise/products/goods and maybe having to sweat a little. Our betters told us to leave that shit for them stupit fur’ners and hop the bus on down to eeeeasy street! …All we had to do was invest about 25 G’s (at the very least) to train up for the New Information Economy and baby, we were set for life. Why, we were even promised gummit largess to “re-train”. How many rubes were re-trained and put on the golden path to wealth and lifetime security? I’d say the old G.A.O. would be too embarrassed to speculate. We can be sure that some very small portion of the populace increased their grifted gains by a staggering amount on the back of this con game/golden promise. As BRH has pointed out, just where do we think those precision machines (Bridgeports, lathes, grinders, screw threaders and headers… et fucking cetera!) came from anyway? I doubt that they fell out of the sky by gawd’s command; but I’ll tell you what… they’re solid GONE now, and it would cost a YUGE bundle to re-machine them. There’s still a few smart guys I know that have them squirreled away in sheds and garages when they were goin’ stupid cheap.

      Yes Virginia, there’s a sucker born every minute.
      …and a job in the Manufacturing Consent, Disgust and Disinformation on the Intertubes industry available to those of low-to-no moral character, created almost as fast. Sweeeet; promise [partially] kept.

      • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 9:52 pm #

        I heard Sting made an album about his hometown that had been making ships for centuries. The PTB suddenly ended all that, leaving everyone high and dry.

        • GreenAlba March 8, 2018 at 6:37 am #

          Not centuries, but never mind. There would have been more demand for their ships if we’d had more wars, I suppose, since that was what created the greatest demand in the 20th century, when Wallsend and Jarrow were in the picture (you’ll remember the Jarrow march, which was in 1936, not in the current heyday of globalism).


          The shipyards ceded to foreign competition. I don’t think there’s a way of stopping other countries developing their own shipbuilding industries if they so choose.

          If you make statements like ‘the PTB suddenly ended all that’, then you owe your readers some detail, otherwise you’re just adding to the quagmire of ignorance and propaganda.

        • Janos Skorenzy March 8, 2018 at 3:14 pm #

          That’s why the tariff was invented. Favoring your own companies over foreign companies, imagine that. And sometimes foreign means slave labor. Where did your social conscience go? Or it just something to bash your own culture with?

      • volodya March 8, 2018 at 11:15 am #

        Mr Ozone, you hit on all the relevant points. The machines were sent to China and they are staying there at gun-point because the political legitimacy of the Chinese regime depends on it. And so the offshored factories are staying in China and the offshored jobs are staying there for the same reason. Doesn’t matter that the Chinese workers are being paid peanuts because without even those paltry wages, they starve. Literally. And, if it’s starvation they’re facing, the Chinese Communist Party billionaires in their mansions know that the millions in their protecting army and police force won’t stand a chance against the weight of an enraged and uncountable Chinese multitude.

        The present day arrangement was built on lies, as you elucidated, and illogic. It is unworkable. And it’s unfixable because the idiots that set it up won’t hear of it. They set it up for their own engorgement and spent a lot of time and money to get it done. And now it’s done and they’ll ride the thing down to zero. In the meantime they and their complicit servants wrap themselves in the mantle of morality and virtue and call anyone who’s not onside – and who they so painfully screwed – Deplorable.

        The 2008-09 dishevelment was just a prelude to greater tectonic fractures to come. Decline of an entity like the USA, as it was for Rome, won’t likely be straight down, it will be a ratcheting down. History is the gravitational force that pulls down collapsing institutions. Look to history if you want to know the shape of the rubble piles to come.

      • elysianfield March 8, 2018 at 11:44 am #

        ” There’s still a few smart guys I know that have them squirreled away in sheds and garages when they were goin’ stupid cheap. ”

        You embarrass me….

  77. tucsonspur March 7, 2018 at 3:22 pm #

    Art is back! Hurrah! Too little of it here. Design, composition, form, etc. Music to my ears!

    The wonderfully sensuous, sinuous, and supraliminal blend of intellect and emotion.

    • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 6:05 pm #

      Like that famous one of an unmade bed surrounded by all kinds of crap like piss cups, tissues, and cigarette buttes. Design? Of course since someone made it. Composition? Someone composed it. Form? It has form since all things do.

      Art is simply created by calling something art. Every burp is music and every fart, incense. The Chamber Pot is the Urn and the Urn, the Chamber Pot.

      • tucsonspur March 7, 2018 at 7:13 pm #

        Sounds like my bedroom. Have you been snooping?

        Basic axioms can and do support magnificent, beautiful, and intricate creations.

        But of course I agree. I think I posted this once, way back. Regardless of whether it’s modern or post-modern, I think the point is relevant:

        “Modern art has been fatally circumscribed by the facile irony and mocking facetiousness of camp”. RH? That at least begins to cover it. You could add, “and the subversive distortions of Leftist ‘artistic’ inclusion and diversity”. Or something like that.

  78. FincaInTheMountains March 7, 2018 at 5:09 pm #

    Putin’s Ultimatum and the World Order 2018

    Russian Federation Military Doctrine, Article 27:

    The Russian Federation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it and (or) its allies, as well as in case of aggression against the Russian Federation using conventional weapons, when the very existence of the state is at stake.

    The decision to use nuclear weapons is made by the President of the Russian Federation.

    In plain English, this means that Russia reserves the right to inflict an attack on missile defense objects if it sees that NATO is preparing to launch a Prompt Global Strike on Russia and / or if the color revolution supported from outside poses a threat to the very existence of the Russian state.

    In principle, this is called a preemptive strike, but this formulation disappeared from the military doctrine of 2009 after US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton explained on the eve of it acceptance that such a concept as a “preemptive strike” is not in the US military doctrine.

    Especially for this she came to Moscow. Nothing surprising – after all, as Secretary of State she was responsible for the disarmament of Russian nuclear submarines, and the last RSM-52 (NATO classification SS-NX-20 Sturgeon) missile was destroyed about a month before Hurricane Sandy, which flooded New York and New Jersey at the end of October 2012, and thereby predetermined the victory in the presidential election of Barack Obama.

    Otherwise these missiles could have at any time come on combat duty on the nuclear submarines of project 941 “Arkhangelsk” and “Severstal”, approximately doubling the combat power of the Russian submarine fleet after the inevitable, as it seemed victory of the protégé of Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney.

    Think about the mystical meaning of this phrase.

    Another very significant circumstance is the urgent (before showing on TV) Solovyov’s publication of the linked down video, clearly as a “preemptive strike” at some sort of processes, quietly, almost imperceptibly, going in US after the Putin’s ultimatum.

    Now several incontrovertible facts connected with this ultimatum, and this is exactly an ultimatum, since some of its provisions getting to the addressees, turn into demands for the departure of these addressees for a well-deserved retirement and the relegation of the full power to the lawfully elected US president, including for negotiations on a new strategic balance.

    1. The mention of Status-6 in Putin’s speech means that he reassigned the task of retaliation for a Prompt Global Strike against Russia to robotic nuclear torpedoes that can be guaranteed to drown all of Western Europe and both coasts of the United States even if Russia fails to inflict “unacceptable damage” with its counter strike.

    The height of the tsunami will be 400 meters and will travel 200 kilometers inside the US territory. Europe will be drowned entirely. And Russia will not spend money and resources on building the counter-strike potential, since it was precisely this that was the reason for the defeat of the USSR in the Cold War, because its leadership refused to listen to the great Russian scientist Andrei Sakharov.

    2. Laser weapons, which are already on combat duty, can be used not only against warheads flying to targets in Russia, but also can simultaneously destroy all American satellites, blinding the American defense.

    3. Cruise missiles launched not far from both US coasts and flying at a speed of Mach 20 = 21,000 kilometers per hour in 5 minutes will reach any target in the US, but the fact that Putin said that they’ll fly at low altitude “like a meteorite”, means that they will not be seen by radars on Earth or from satellites shot down or blinded by lasers.

    All this together means that Russia has achieved not a parity but a decisive military advantage, at least not less than the military advantage that the United States achieved in the 1980s, by introducing laser gyroscopes and the technology of multiple individual warheads (MIRV) on Trident II missiles, with flying time also of about 5 minutes.

    And the US military and political leaders know much better than you and I what the impact this had on the coming to power of Gorbachev (not to mention his name by night) and followed from of implementation of the “threat to the existence of the USSR”.

    And I still think that experts who have been modeling the various scenarios of the nuclear war in Florida for years in the Center depicted in Putin’s animation, did not fall victim to their own anti-Russian propaganda, and adjust their calculations and scenarios based not only on the peaceful words of Putin and his intentions, voiced in the appeal to the Federal Assembly, but from the new capabilities of the Russian army, voiced in the same place.

    And for the addressees of this ultimatum to contact them for consultations, this video appeared on the Net, in which the Putin clearly enough hints that he will negotiate with Trump, but he will not even talk to anyone who fucked him in Ukraine by promising a peaceful resolution to Ukrainian crisis in writing and next day going for the overthrow of the elected Ukrainian Government.

    And if they, as Putin said, refuse to “go on a well-deserved retirement” then let them have in mind that:

    We do not need the world in which Russia has no place in.


    • FincaInTheMountains March 7, 2018 at 6:29 pm #

      In the above video, if you want to see the English subtitles (automatically translated, but more or less decent), follow the following instructions:

      1. Click on the CC button in the right bottom corner of the video

      If you done it correctly, CC button becomes underlined in red and subtitles – in Russian (by default) will start appearing on the screen

      2. Click on the “Tools” button – should be next to CC button to the right

      Drop down menu should appear, and you should see Subtitles (CC) = Russian (Autogenerated)

      3. Click on that menu item and select Auto Translate

      4. The list of languages should appear – select Afrikaans – just kidding – English and auto-generated English subtitles should be now on.


      • Ol' Scratch March 8, 2018 at 7:12 am #

        Thanks, but I figured it. Too long to listen to in entirety, but got the gist.

        • FincaInTheMountains March 8, 2018 at 7:44 am #

          The instructions were mostly for Janos, the slow learner.

  79. FincaInTheMountains March 7, 2018 at 6:06 pm #

    George P. Bush Wins In Texas After Breaking With Family On Trump

    George P. Bush won the primary for Texas land commissioner on Tuesday after touting his continued support of President Donald Trump, a position that runs in contrast to the rest of his family dynasty.


    This means that they all lie with their assessments of the falling popularity of Donald Trump.

  80. outsider March 7, 2018 at 6:48 pm #

    This whole sordid saga of porn star Stormy Daniels stating that, over ten years ago, Trump had an affair with her, mere weeks after Melania had their baby, stinks to high heavens. For one, pseudonyms were used in that alleged confidentially agreement, so how do we know that ‘David Dennison’, the male name used, is actually Trump? The President denies it. Her lawyer claims that the agreement is null and void as ‘David Dennison’ didn’t sign it.

    The hysterical Trump-haters out there are foaming at the mouth demanding his resignation, while they were silent on good old Billy Boy’s many indiscretions. But I was listening to talk radio while driving this morning, and the following story, from a woman who claimed to have known Trump well for years, makes the most sense to me.

    She said, and it is well known, that Trump is a germophobe. In fact, he held off running for potus for years as he dislikes shaking hands, once calling the practice “barbaric.” So, this woman said that, in her opinion, it would not surprise her if Trump had had affairs sometime in the past, but certainly not with a Porn Star, who, to him, would be far too dirty to touch. Who knows how many men had been inside of Stormy? No amount of washing would make her clean in Trump’s eyes.

    Also, the woman defending Trump said that Daniels was probably paid big money to come forth with this vile bullshit story. Now she has her 15 minutes of fame, and maybe Oprah will do a story about her on “60 Minutes.” Anything to bring Trump down by the #Resistance!

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    • Q. Shtik March 7, 2018 at 9:10 pm #

      Now that I have seen the pics of Stormy’s body on the TV I forgive Trump for his understandable indiscretions. I do feel sorry for Barron though…the nurses had barely enough time to wipe off the afterbirth and his dad is poking a woman other than his mom. As a girlfriend of my wife once said: “men are SHIT!!”

      • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 9:53 pm #

        Some say those Tits aren’t real. But what if they are? Why can’t miracles be real?

        • elysianfield March 8, 2018 at 11:49 am #

          ” Some say those Tits aren’t real. But what if they are? Why can’t miracles be real?”

          The miracle is as real as will be the horror in 10 years time….

      • outsider March 7, 2018 at 10:28 pm #

        So you believe that Bullshit, Q? The woman may have fake tits bigger than Pamela Anderson’s, but she is slime, as are all porn stars. Who would want to couple with that?

        • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 11:43 pm #

          Nothing degrades women like illicit sex. I remember being amazed in high school at how some of the girls seemed middle aged somehow. I knew I was seeing a dark mystery. I suspected the Truth even then. Nothing I’ve learned since changes anything I intuited then.

        • Q. Shtik March 8, 2018 at 11:45 am #

          she is slime, as are all porn stars. Who would want to couple with that? – outsider


          welll, ummm?

          • elysianfield March 8, 2018 at 11:53 am #

            Who here, besides the women on the site, does not understand that sex is not about reality, but rather fantasy?

      • GreenAlba March 8, 2018 at 6:41 am #

        Right, so a man (allegedly) cheats on his wife, who’s in labour giving birth to their child, and your first sympathies are with…the baby?

        Why am I even surprised, on this website…?

        • Q. Shtik March 8, 2018 at 4:11 pm #

          Right, so a man (allegedly) cheats on his wife, who’s in labour giving birth to their child, and your first sympathies are with…the baby? – Greenie


          Correct, though not exactly ‘in labor,’ close enough for government work. She married Trump at 34 years of age, old enough to know what she was getting into (unless she is dumber than she looks)… but Barron had no choice in the matter. Now, unless he is devoid of sensitivities, he must feel a bit embarrassed.

  81. janet March 7, 2018 at 9:51 pm #

    The President denies sexual relations with that woman.

    But Stormy Daniels persisted and is speaking out. Good for her.

    The whole affair is tawdry and sordid, in so many ways below the dignity of the presidency. If Trump did cheat on his wife, it would not come as much of a surprise, given his history: he cheated on his first wife with the second, and then fed the story to New York tabloids to humiliate her. A loyal, chivalrous man he is not.

    But were the Stormy Daniels allegations simply about an affair, they would reflect poorly on him, but wouldn’t be particularly relevant to his current office.

    What’s different here is the systematic silencing of women. Nondisclosure agreements are too often leveraged against people who have little ability to refuse to sign them — often employees trying to settle sexual harassment complaints, for example.
    They paper over serious problems, and allow harassers and abusers to behave with impunity. In Trump’s case, the problem is less the affair allegations than the allegations of $130,000 in hush money and threats to keep a woman quiet.

    But women are not keeping quiet anymore. We are organizing and supporting each other.




    • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 9:55 pm #


      • outsider March 7, 2018 at 10:45 pm #

        Janos, apparently the latest victim of the hysterical harpies is Mark Cuban of “Shark Tank” fame. A woman said that, several years ago, she asked for a picture with him, upon which he put his hand all the way down her underwear, and on to the front. Could this be payback? After all, Cuban has turned on Trump big time, and has said he may run against him in 2020. This is what America has come to. Two reality TV stars (3 if you count Oprah) may face off next time. Career politicians need no longer apply for the job – they are just not fun enough anymore in the days of ‘Sybil the Soothsayer’ (from “Network”).

        • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 11:33 pm #

          Yes, the freak show is becoming a geek show with us as the chicken that gets its head bitten off.

          Cuban deserve it because of his hatred of Trump.

        • tucsonspur March 8, 2018 at 2:53 am #

          There’s blood in the political waters, and this shark just might become the “JAWS” that survives and eats everyone else.

          As far as I know, except for this current accusation, he seems to be pretty much untarnished.

          Began with computers and software, started Micro-Solutions, sold to CompuServe, started AudioNet which became Broadcast.com, sold to Yahoo in 1999 for $5.7 billion. On to the Dallas Mavericks. Are the skeletons buried in that deal with Yahoo?

          He may have more money than Trump. Beats me how these guys do it. He happens to be Jewish. Bernie Sanders didn’t make it. Could Cuban be the first Jewish president?

          • tucsonspur March 8, 2018 at 3:01 am #

            Roosevelts had some Jewish ancestry.

        • malthuss March 8, 2018 at 11:28 am #

          A jew, a Ni— and a WASP.


  82. janet March 7, 2018 at 11:08 pm #


    Trump’s lawyers told him not to say anything publicly or privately about the Mueller investigation, but Trump persisted…

    Don McGahn
    Trump told White House counsel Don McGahn to publicly deny reports saying he was told by the president to fire Mueller. McGahn reminded Trump that he had in fact asked him to get rid of Mueller.

    Reince Priebus
    Trump asked former chief of staff Reince Priebus about his October meeting with Mueller’s office. Trump is scared.

    Rob Porter
    Rob Porter, who recently stepped down as White House Staff Secretary, told McGahn that Trump had “suggested he might ‘get rid of'” him if he didn’t deny Trump asked him to fire Mueller.


    This meddling in the Russia investigation and his collusion shows Trump is scared, asking people to lie to Mueller and lie about Mueller and lie about Trump’s threats to fire staff.

  83. janet March 7, 2018 at 11:16 pm #



    Today, the 8th of March 2018, is International Women’s Day, when women across the globe come together to highlight prejudice, celebrate women, and recognise victories. It’s been around for more than a century, created in 1909 by suffragettes in New York who wanted to commemorate the march for women’s rights that had taken place there the previous year. It’s now an official United Nations event and popularly observed in most if not all countries by women and men from all walks of life.

    This year it feels particularly significant. It’s the 100 year anniversary of one of the most pivotal moments in the women’s suffrage movement: the 1918 Act that gave (some) women the right to vote in the United Kingdom. And it comes on the heels of an unprecedented 12 months of global activism for women’s rights, equality and justice. Campaigns such as #metoo and #timesup have received worldwide attention, and millions of women around the world have used the hashtags as a rallying cry, exposing sexual abuse and harassment, building communities around advocacy, and challenging repressive laws and power structures.

    Global society is waking up to an uncomfortable truth. A century after the suffragettes’ victories, women and girls around the world still face a shocking lack of political representation, prejudice, exclusion, harassment and abuse. Raising awareness about this deep-rooted unfairness in the way society works is one of the reasons that International Women’s Day exists. Another reason is to celebrate the achievements of women, and to acknowledge victories.




    • Janos Skorenzy March 7, 2018 at 11:40 pm #


      • janet March 8, 2018 at 9:17 am #

        When Trump releases all his tax returns we will see that he paid $130,000 to Stormy Daniels, the porn star who is suing the President. She has Trump on the ropes. She is smarter than Trump.

        • Q. Shtik March 8, 2018 at 11:34 am #

          When Trump releases all his tax returns we will see that he paid $130,000 to Stormy Daniels – janet


          Why would this $130K show up on his tax return? Do you think his accountants would claim it as a deductible expense? Like “Knob-job from Stormy, $130K”

          • outsider March 8, 2018 at 10:00 pm #

            Obviously, Q, Janet knows nothing about taxes.

      • outsider March 8, 2018 at 12:15 pm #

        Anti-war Tulsi Gabbard is the only DC politician upon whom both the large Anti-war Right, and fast disappearing Anti-war Left, can agree. Thus, she should run under a Third Party to unite both sides, and announce soon after the midterms, giving her plenty of time to raise funds.

    • elysianfield March 8, 2018 at 11:57 am #

      “Today, the 8th of March 2018, is International Women’s Day, when women across the globe come together to highlight prejudice, celebrate women, and recognise victories.”


      But…when is Man’s Day?



  84. KesaAnna March 8, 2018 at 2:10 am #

    ” Traffic court? And it’s the same as a criminal court? Right. ”

    I used a simple example.

    But , OK , I can just as easily use THE SAME SORT OF EXAMPLE from criminal court.

    You are accused of a felony that has a maximum penalty of five years incarceration.

    Now the reality is that in most cases the state doesn’t really want to send you to prison for five years.

    The prisons are chronically overcrowded — creating a dire public health risk . people crowded together compulsorily is the perfect incubator for disease , and these diseases and viruses have no trouble going over walls or through barbed wire.

    And for what you spent to incarcerate someone for 5 years you could have sent two, or even three , people to an Ivy League school. Incarceration is very expensive , and there really is no way of cutting the costs.

    So , in most cases , if you plead guilty , you will just get probation and a maximum 500 dollar fine.

    of course , the bad news is you will be labelled a felon the rest of your life.

    If you are innocent then , why take such a bad deal ?

    Because , most of the time , the alternative is even worse.

    Lawyers , and not the best ones , are typically 500 dollars an hour.

    Even a minor felony case like I just described can easily take a year

    in pre-trial motions BEFORE you even get to the plead “guilty ” or , ” not guilty ” stage !

    Never mind a trial. That can take two or three years.

    So , if you want to fight the good fight , it will cost you between 15 and 50 ,000 dollars.

    if this is the case, then most likely the state will try to drag it out two or three years , precisely in hopes that you will run out of money.

    Did i mention the whole process could easily take a year , or three ?

    something you will have to deal with day in , and day out , whether you are up , or down , in the mood , or not in the mood , ready for it or not.

    ah , but you are innocent , and that is easy to prove —

    — in fucking fairy tales.

    In cases where the defendant is innocent , you go into court with over a dozen disadvantages as versus the state.

    I’ll name just one ;

    If you tell the smallest or most understandable lie it is perjury , another felony.

    But the state and its agents can tell the grossest lies , dozens of lies , and for them to be charged with perjury is very much the exception , not the rule.

    In sum , they CAN lie , you CANNOT lie.

    I not only would call that a big disadvantage , in most cases , I would say it’s probably the whole ball game.

    If you lose your case , they will almost certainly make an example of you.

    You’ll be labelled a felon anyway , you’ll be out a whole lot of money , and you’ll serve every year of a five year prison sentence.

    Here again , most innocent people plead guilty .

    Not because you are a one -legged man in an ass-kicking contest , but because you are a one -legged man in an ass-kicking contest versus AN ARMY of opponents.

    ” Please tell me again, who’s the dumb ass? ”

    you are , arguing with me in my area of expertise.

  85. KesaAnna March 8, 2018 at 3:43 am #

    ” There will be homophobic people who read this blog and who will end up having homosexual children or grandchildren. You have to wonder how they will treat them. ”

    no, i have to wonder what you posit as an alternative. and i really don’t think I’ve heard one.

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    • KesaAnna March 8, 2018 at 5:45 am #

      that is , I dare say , welfare state or no welfare state , today no less than 5,000 years ago , the average persons real safety net when the shit hits the fan is their family.

      What this means in practice , for example, is that without homophobic family many people would starve to death , or otherwise meet an end that is nasty , brutish , and very , very short.

      In contrast , i dare say , most people have not gotten so much as a fifty cent birthday card from teachers , social workers , police , etc, 30 years on , enlightened , well-meaning or no , and if they actually had to depend on these people, they wouldn’t be breathing.

      ” You have to wonder how they will treat them. ”

      in other words , my guess is that more often than not, they treat them better than you would.

      • GreenAlba March 8, 2018 at 6:50 am #

        I have no idea where your logic is coming from, Kesa.

        In cases of homophobic parents or non-homophobic parents, the primary people we both hope would care for their children are their parents. Otherwise their lives are going to be blighted, whatever their orientation and however nasty, brutish and short their lives are. And ‘solitary’. Let’s not forget ‘solitary’. Because if you’re gay and your parents are homophobic, you’re going to be ‘solitary’.

        • KesaAnna March 8, 2018 at 7:17 am #

          ” I have no idea where your logic is coming from, Kesa. ”

          I doubt it.

      • Ol' Scratch March 8, 2018 at 7:27 am #

        What this means in practice , for example, is that without homophobic family many people would starve to death , or otherwise meet an end that is nasty , brutish , and very , very short.

        Social/tribal norming by the use of shunning, in other words. A powerful tool in any social setting. Might seem extreme, but allegedly “evolved” apes have been using it pretty much forever. I’m mostly ambivalent about homo- and just plain weird- sexual proclivities these days as long as they don’t affect me personally, but regardless, you have to marvel at the idea that for these alternative minded people literally anything at all seems to be the OK (except, apparently, “normalcy” in any form). Janos and others are right in asserting that no society in the history of the world has existed for long once such foolishness permeates it. Ours won’t either. At the very least we should have demanded that it be kept under wraps and not allowed to go mainstream. “Tolerance” increasing just means “chaos” these days.

        • FincaInTheMountains March 8, 2018 at 7:41 am #

          Alan Turing, code-breaker castrated for homosexuality, receives royal pardon

          Alan Turing, a British code-breaker during World War II who was later subjected to chemical castration for homosexual activity, has received a royal pardon nearly 60 years after he committed suicide.


          • thwack March 8, 2018 at 8:46 am #

            people say homosexuals are the natural aristocracy of the white race?

            I suspect these people saying this are homosexuals too.

            Just sayin

          • Ol' Scratch March 8, 2018 at 10:06 am #

            That’s the other extreme and also wrong. Not familiar with Turing’s particular circumstances (was he at least discreet about it, etc.?), but it should be reminded that during that particular period madness and witch hunts of every stripe abounded in the west. “Winning” WWII apparently drove the west into the abyss of insanity, a condition we seem to have never recovered from to this day.

        • KesaAnna March 8, 2018 at 7:57 am #

          @ Old Scratch

          I’m a 54 year old , not bad-looking , celibate.

          so i guess i’m pretty fucking weird on that score , at least by the (non) standards of the sexual revolution.

          But i wouldn’t give you 50 cents for these supposed snowflakes whose hearts supposedly bleed for me.

          In my experience their sympathy is so much crocodile tears.

          As i suggested , my bigoted family has kept me alive . What have these social justice warriors done for me ?

          I don’t even get a 50 cent Christmas card .

          I suspect that in many cases Janos is correct ,

          they are NOT , ” alternative minded people “.

          it’s simply a bait and switch.

          • Ol' Scratch March 8, 2018 at 10:10 am #

            Celibacy! Now there’s a trend on the rise! The sexual game anymore is just tiring, frustrating, and terribly hazardous and expensive. You have to wonder why anyone even bothers.

  86. KesaAnna March 8, 2018 at 7:16 am #

    ” Elrond had already warned me that ‘someone’ would be along to suggest that homosexuality and paedophilia are the one and the same. ”

    I’m not suggesting.

    As concerns being ( as opposed to doing ) ;

    You have said that homosexuality is biologically deterministic, that they cannot help it.

    First , I think we will see the second coming of Christ before we receive a definitive answer as to where nature ends , and nurture begins.

    Or , the definitive answer is going to add up to something that is 10,000 pages long , which pretty much amounts to the same thing as , we don’t really know.

    The funny thing I noticed , for example, about the Wikipedia article that Elrond linked to contains as its FIRST SENTENCE a qualifier or caveat.
    In the first paragraph I counted three others.

    So much for a straight , or merely intelligible, story.

    The evidences of science fill warehouses wall to wall . no exaggeration.
    What that means is that even if you are an expert on biology ( very hard to believe. Biology , like history , is an extremely large umbrella . ) it stands to reason that you are undoubtedly completely ignorant of fifty other sciences in which the key data might be found.

    in my view , Social Darwinism is , ” Some are more equal than others ”

    And biological determinism is , ” All animals are equal , but some are more equal than others. ”

    Which , to personalize it a bit , is to say that the big difference between Elrond and Janos is that with Janos i have to listen to less verbiage.

    And that’s pretty much it.

    Anyway , as concerns being ( as opposed to doing ) ;

    like ; a lifelong celibate homosexual , versus a life long celibate pedophile ….

    Well , what would be the difference in nothing ?

    How , in this nothing , in this not doing anything , do you draw a distinction ?

    So presumably this all really has NOTHING to do with biology , with origins , with construction* , but with actions , with doing ?

    ( * actions can transcend how a thing is put together , how it is constructed. for example, a shoe is not designed to be a hammer , but can never the less be used as a hammer regardless. )

    So far , the only objective distinction I have seen drawn between homosexual actions and pedophile actions is the false distinction that homosexual acts may be solely between consenting adults , while pedophile acts, by definition , involve a lack of such consent.

    I said this was a false distinction .

    Objectively , any sex act takes place within a social matrix where third parties are involved , may be negatively impacted, but do not get a veto in it.

    ( ” negatively impacted ” For example , wait around on this blog awhile and someone is sure to complain bitterly about over-population , and more , to advocate what can only be coercive policies to curtail it. )

    This is true of heterosexual acts, homosexual acts, bestiality , whatever.

    So that’s out.

    Perhaps you have thought of some other distinction ? If so , I would like to hear it.

    ” anyone to whom the meanings of words matter. ”

    I have lived to see 20 year olds described as children.

    so, yes , i would like to see a distinction that isn’t really a lot of partisan team sports – type thing , but an actual distinction.

    • Elrond Hubbard March 8, 2018 at 8:36 am #

      Above, I predicted that someone would conflate homosexuality with pedophilia; and so it has come to pass, more than once now.

      “Conflate: combine (two or more sets of information, texts, ideas, etc.) into one.” (Oxford Dictionary of English)

      Kesa declares any distinction between the two, on the basis of consent between adults and lack of any possibility of meaningful consent by a child, to be meaningless. She says that’s because the ‘social matrix’ is negatively impacted by both. What she doesn’t say is how. What is the negative impact of homosexuality? Of gay marriage? How does it pick her pocket or break my leg? Kesa doesn’t say.

      If the subject were pedophilia alone, no one would bring in some nebulous ‘social matrix’ out there in the ether, because there would be no need. Pedophilia harms children, simple as that. This ‘social matrix’ business is an invented way to link two things that are separate.

      As a bonus, Kesa also conflates me with Janos, then says she prefers Janos because with him she doesn’t have to do as much thinking, the poor dear. Science is complex because it deals with the real world and doesn’t take shortcuts. It’s a sign of strength when you know how to deal with those complexities, and weakness when they scare you off. Ignorance is strength, Orwell wrote, and I add that bigotry is the strength of those contemptible people who are actually proud to be ignorant.

      • thwack March 8, 2018 at 8:42 am #

        another case of German idealism VS British empiricism

      • KesaAnna March 8, 2018 at 10:00 am #

        ” What she doesn’t say is how.”

        I most certainly did offer an example of how.

        so that’s a fucking lie.

        ” because with him she doesn’t have to do as much thinking, the poor dear.”

        not what i said.

        another fucking lie scumbag.


        pot , kettle, black asshole.

        • KesaAnna March 8, 2018 at 10:05 am #

          ” Pedophilia harms children, simple as that. ”

          sex harms children , simple as that.

          • KesaAnna March 8, 2018 at 10:07 am #

            ” If the subject were pedophilia alone, ”

            Except it wasn’t.

            someone said there was a distinction BETWEEN TWO THINGS .

            so……you can’t fucking count simple numbers , or what?

          • KesaAnna March 8, 2018 at 10:20 am #

            really not as simple as that.

            You’re the one wanting to grossly simplify things it seems to me.

      • KesaAnna March 8, 2018 at 10:09 am #

        ” Science is complex because it deals with the real world and doesn’t take shortcuts. ”

        True of the science that fills warehouses , which is the product of thousands of people.

        Individuals take shortcuts , and so do you.

        • KesaAnna March 8, 2018 at 10:20 am #

          they have too.

      • KesaAnna March 8, 2018 at 10:11 am #

        ” Kesa declares any distinction between the two, on the basis of consent between adults and lack of any possibility of meaningful consent by a child, to be meaningless. ”

        Is there a counter argument here ?

        Crickets is what i hear you sophist fraud.

      • KesaAnna March 8, 2018 at 10:17 am #

        ‘ no one would bring in… ”

        according to which opinion polls ? not that you can’t cook those to say whatever you want.

        ” some nebulous ‘social matrix’ out there in the ether, ”

        says the guy who just invoked a nebulous social matrix out of the ether when he said :

        ‘ no one would bring in… ”

        ” because there would be no need.”

        Of course not , the word of his Majesty Elrond is sufficient.

      • Janos Skorenzy March 8, 2018 at 2:43 pm #

        So do you believe that children are People with Rights? Do you accept the UN’s Rights of the Child as at least a preliminary stab in this direction? If so, surely accept that they have the right to choose their own gender as many progressive Nations seem to be doing covertly. And if that is accepted, it’s only natural that they have the right to accept lovers as well. I mean that is small in comparison with changing one’s gender. And in any case, they are PEOPLE with RIGHTS – or am I wrong about that or any of the forgoing?

        You disciple refused combat, wisely of course. Her instincts are right but she doesn’t have your grasp of the dialectic. She knows that what’s wrong for Whites isn’t wrong for Muslims or Blacks, but she doesn’t know why (add italics). You do. And then you don’t. Or you do and you don’t simultaneously. You have mastered Double Think and then you haven’t. Am I right, wrong, right and then wrong, wrong then right, neither right or wrong, right and wrong at the same time, all of the above, or none of the above?

        I understand that these are mysteries and that the Dialectic is subtle and can change completely from minute to the next. Can you give us some sign at least? Was Harry Hay right – are all things making “love” all the time and children must not be excluded from this dance of joy?

        • GreenAlba March 8, 2018 at 4:23 pm #


          “You disciple refused combat, wisely of course. Her instincts are right but she doesn’t have your grasp of the dialectic.”

          Ever the assumer. I have about a minute to let you know that, amazingly, I have other things to do. I leave for a week’s holiday tomorrow morning and I am still answering work emails at 9pm. Nothing is yet packed. I look in from habit and probably some sort of mild addiction – I need my head examining for spending the time that I already do on this website.

          For the moment I will just point out that Elrond is not my Svengali. Our views coincide on a number of things – doubtless they do so less on others, as you should expect.

          However, this website being a bit of an echo chamber, disturbed by relatively few dissenting voices, certain memes recur, like racism and antisemitism, for example. Outside of the US more people think differently, so you shouldn’t be over surprised that a Brit and a Canadian happen to have similar views on some matters.

          I wish you a good weekend.

          • Elrond Hubbard March 8, 2018 at 5:55 pm #

            Enjoy your holiday, GreenAlba. Please, please resist the temptation to look in on this blog whilst you’re gone.

            As for Kesa’s responses, I suspect no good can come of my replying — so good night, everyone.