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An awful lot of sheetrock is going to be permanently ruined over the next few days down along the coast of Dixieland. Following the spectacle of hurricane reportage on TV reveals very little while the event is in progress. The cheapo building materials of the stereotypical strip malls flap around in the gale and the valiant cable news storm-chasers lean into the horizontal deluge in the empty parking lots, but their reportage doesn’t tell much of the real story, which only emerges when the roaring blob of weather moves on and the sun finally comes out.

More than a decade of punishing storms along the US coastline must be wrecking the insurance industry as much as the stuff on the landscape. They’ve been pummeled from another direction for ten years by the supernaturally low interest rates that make it so hard to refurbish their coffers after whole regions like the Houston metro area and the entire island of Puerto Rico get blasted and they have to pay out billions in claims.

This time around, all those vinyl and chip-board McHouses along the Atlantic beaches will not be replaced. But farther inland, far from the roaring surf, along all the overflowing estuaries that drain the coastal plain, the damage will be widespread and epic. It may create a whole new social class of de-housed, displaced Sunbelters who will never again have a decent place of their own to live in. Since many are retirees, the event may even lead to a stealth die-off of people who are just too far along to start over.

The lamentation for the northern part of “flyover” America is an old story now. Nobody is surprised anymore by the desolation of de-industrialized places like Youngstown, Ohio, or Gary, Indiana, where American wealth was once minted the hard way by men toiling around blast furnaces. But the southeast states enjoyed a strange interlude of artificial dynamism since the 1950s, which is about three generations, and there is little cultural memory for what the region was like before: an agricultural backwater with few cities of consequence and widespread Third Worldish poverty, barefoot children with hookworm, and scrawny field laborers in ragged straw hats leaning on their hoes in the stifling heat.

The demographic shifts of recent decades turned a lot of it into an endless theme park of All-You-Can-Eat buffets, drive-in beer emporia, hamburger palaces, gated retirement subdivisions, evangelical churches built like giant muffler shops, vast wastelands of free parking, and all the other trappings of the greatest misallocation of resources in the history of the world. Like many of history’s prankish proceedings, it seemed like a good idea at the time. As survivors slosh around in the plastic debris in the weeks ahead, and the news media spins out its heartwarming vignettes of rescue and heroism, will there be any awareness of what has actually happened: the very sudden end of a whole regional economy that was a tragic blunder from the get-go?

It is probably hard to imagine Dixieland struggling into whatever its next economy might be. In some places, it’s not even possible to return to a prior economy based on agriculture. A lot of the landscape was farmed so ruinously for two hundred years that the soil has turned into a kind of natural cement, called hardpan or caliche. The climate prospects for the region are not favorable either, not to mention the certain cessation of universal air-conditioning and “happy motoring” that made the unwise mega-developments of recent decades possible.

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345 Responses to “Lamentation”

  1. bibliomaniac September 14, 2018 at 9:52 am #

    James–Looks like that “Chinese hoax” sneaked up on the east coast.

    • K-Dog September 14, 2018 at 10:55 am #

      A potent hoax. Out gold topped pink POTUS could resemble his cousin seen in the photo here. Standing in water all wet.

      A href=”https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a23099217/hurricane-florence-pig-manure-coal-ash/”>Hurricane Florence Could Be That Much Worse Because of What’s Waiting for It on Land

      There are lagoons of pig shit and coal ash in North Carolina—courtesy of Republican deregulation of previous hoaxes.

        • K-Dog September 14, 2018 at 11:00 am #

          You can see the family resemblance in the ears.

          • Elrond Hubbard September 14, 2018 at 11:32 am #

            Here’s video footage of one of those lovely, picturesque lagoons. They should call it Mar-a-CAFO.

          • GreenAlba September 14, 2018 at 11:55 am #

            I’d say that state Darwin Award is pretty much in the bag.

            Although, I have it on – ahem – authority from a post yesterday that AGW is a mass ‘fantasy’, so I’m just going to sit back (I’m lucky, I live reasonably high up and not near a beach) and see how it all turns out.

            Those affected should just keep telling themselves – oh, I dunno, sunspots, inshallah, or something – and wait to wake up back in a dry bed in Kansas. There’s no place like home. Especially when it’s been yugely and beautifully deregulated and science legislated out of existence.

            “Oh, I, could tell you why
            The oceans near(er) the shore
            I could think of things I’d never
            Thunk before,
            And then I’d sit down and think some more…

            ,,,If I only had a brain.”

          • elysianfield September 14, 2018 at 12:08 pm #

            “Those affected should just keep telling themselves – oh, I dunno, sunspots, inshallah, or something…”


            …I don’t know why,
            There are no stars out in the sky,
            Stormy weather…

            Hard to believe that the song was written before AGW became a “thing”…

            How prescient….

          • GreenAlba September 14, 2018 at 12:10 pm #


            I know you’re cleverer than that. But well done on trying to convince me otherwise.

          • elysianfield September 14, 2018 at 8:09 pm #

            The post was inspired only by a desire to respond in kind to your musical offering…Wagner’s Gotterdammerung would hardly make my point….

      • cbeard September 14, 2018 at 1:13 pm #

        Not to mention nuclear reactor waste in South Carolina and Georgia.

  2. Martymcfly September 14, 2018 at 9:55 am #

    It’s just a hurricane. There will be some damage, but they’ll get through it. Insurance companies are aware of natural disasters.

    Wasn’t last hurricane season supposed to be the end of Disneyworld or the oil and chemical industry in Houston?

    • K-Dog September 14, 2018 at 10:40 am #

      I’ve been looking at reports to see if Jim wrote this with serious cogitation or if he was merely exercising his extensive skill. I am also reading up about hardpan.

      Verdict, this indeed a case of musical chairs. Some people dancing to the music won’t have a chair to sit in once Florence blows theirs away. They will wither away and silently die in the months and years to come.

      The storm stalled, built in strength, and became serious business. It will be the doom of many.

      • venuspluto67 September 14, 2018 at 10:55 am #

        Its winds have slowed down, but the fact that it will stall and wander a bit south just off the coast means that wind-damage on the coast will be done more by the sustained category-one winds than a fast-moving storm of a higher hurricane category. Also, the stalling out means greater flooding problems.

        • K-Dog September 14, 2018 at 10:58 am #

          More flooding, more pig shit to get washed out of the pig shit lagoons.

          • GreenAlba September 14, 2018 at 11:58 am #

            I think you need the services of the chief swamp drainer. Pig shit lagoons might be a sideline. If they aren’t, they should be.

    • Tate September 14, 2018 at 11:08 am #

      “It’s just a hurricane. There will be some damage, but they’ll get through it. Insurance companies are aware of natural disasters.”

      Of course they will, & of course they are. It’s called actuarial science. But the subtext here is “climate change” you see, Ooh, BAD. In other words, they haven’t allowed for enough damage. LOL.

      Well, maybe. According to Bastiat’s broken window- pane fallacy, we’ll get poorer all the while thinking we’re getting richer.

      • Martymcfly September 14, 2018 at 12:40 pm #

        There is no question that a hurricane is a bad thing; to argue anyting else is just silly.

        But still, it’s just a hurricane. We would be better off if it didn’t happen, but that’s not an option. It’s not the end of the world, the end of the US or the end of the Carolinas. It will be the end of some houses, and sadly some folks will die. Some will not be able to recover; most will. Insurance rates will go up, as they probably should.

        • Tate September 14, 2018 at 1:49 pm #

          When I wrote “the subtext here,” I wasn’t referring to your comment. Sorry, it was unclear.

      • VetsRN September 14, 2018 at 6:35 pm #

        I was a transplant in NC from 2008-2018. That’s right, I just sold my house outside of Durham in July.

        The only reason I stayed is because of the initial “grab a chair, the misic is stopping” 2008 fiasco, and then subsequent retraining into Nursing so that I could LEAVE.

        The few bigger cities, such as RDU and Winston Salem…they are seething pits of racism (I am Caucasian), misogyny (I am female), and such financial disparity (I am fortunate enough to be one of the dwindling middle class)….that everyday life was just pure misery.

        I won’t go into the walking through hot soup, which is 7 months of the year, because that is well known.

        The ignorance and mind numbing willingness in the South to remain so, is what will do these people in.

        Yes, the soil is ruined from generations of farmers dousing the land with insecticides and poor farming practice.

        But with the advent of, oh, say, GOOGLE…there is absolutely zero reason that anyone with half an ounce of sense would not know of the problems and the solutions to them.

        My neighbors sure as shite knew how to fakebook and gossip about everyone on the internet, and access Faux News online…but they could never understand when I would advocate not using Sevin as a garnish on their dinnerplates, let alone how they were killing my honeybee hives with it.

        The ignorance that elected politicians that banned the use of the phrase “climate change”. Lalalalalalalalaaaaaaaa if they can’t hear you, you haven’t said anything!!

        The same people who would spout things like “If a N***r is gonna be elected, there will be blood running in these streets tomorrow!” Yet the cowardice of the average North Carolinian never brought such things to pass…just bluster and ignorance overflowing their mouths like the pig shit lagoons and the coal ash ponds of Duke Monopoly, I mean Energy.

        I saw my solar panel reward go from Progress Energy awarding me $.05/kwh for generating, to Duke placing so many fees on me, that to cancel the contract that pushed my generated energy to them…COST ME $1000, not to mention I was paying Duke to allow me to generate power for them.

        The land is ruined. The people there are being showered by pig feces and urine to “draw down” those lagoons every day.


        There is also a great article in rolling stone about Chinese ownership of these farms polluting the land there.

        Florence merely is shining a brief light on the average conditions there. Waterlogged, molding, and disease prone on a good day.

        NC is accessible for those with cars only. There is no public transportation to speak of. The people routinely vote against their best interests because of the dog whistle politics….Gawd, Gays and Guns.

        It was a miserable experience and I cannot believe that anyone would choose North Carolina to spend their remaining days fighting pretty much everything, including just breathing the air and drinking the polluted water.

        Because you don’t shovel snow? Anyone who moves there deserves what they get. There is ample information available about the true living conditions, yet all of the rationalizations I heard were usually from middle aged men….who are too f****g lazy to shovel snow and don’t feel like wearing anything but bermuda shorts while sitting around complaining how hot it is and how little they are paid in their jobs.

        I left the day after I graduated nursing school and sold my home shortly thereafter. I feel fortunate that I have gotten out at this time, when it looks like the housing market is collapsing. I made a healthy profit…hazard pay is what I am calling it…for living in what I would now consider the closest thing to a third world country.

        • jloughrey September 15, 2018 at 1:26 am #

          Wow. Eye-opening. Thanks for sharing. I have a number of friends and relatives who live in the Carolinas. One friend moved this spring from where I live in Portland OR to Asheville NC, and the other just moved weeks ago from the Bay area of CA to Myrtle Beach, SC. Both moved in part because of the high cost of living on the West Coast. I’m guessing that in light of Hurricane Florence, their moving experiences will not be what they expected, in more ways than one.

        • GreenAlba September 15, 2018 at 7:54 am #

          Thank you for that insight VetsRN.

          It’s good to have information from an insider. If I’d said any of the things you said from deeply personal experience I’d have been hammered.

          That people actually CHOOSE to accept conditions like these because of their dog-whistle politics is tragic. Congratulations on getting out – I hope your new life is infinitely better.

        • MontanaMan September 15, 2018 at 11:01 am #

          Good. This Montana born and raised man is so very happy you left. And you and your self centered arrogant uppity snot nose know it all, do stay out of Montana.

          You and your type are about as pleasant as a root canal. And Kunstler doesn’t know jack about hardpan or Caliche. If you choose to educate your incorrigibly belligerent teenage ranting mind, read my “geology fact based” comment” down below. You make the worse neighbor and the absolute worse nurse. Vile disgusting female thing you are.

        • Tate September 15, 2018 at 1:17 pm #

          I love shoveling snow, even wearing cargo shorts (not Bermuda shorts, please). The cold & the ice suit my Celtic & Nordic roots. If people want to live there, fine, I get rashes in uncomfortable places on my body when the heat & humidity ratchet up. If I get an itch for warmer climes in the dead of Winter, we just get on a big jet airliner & go. I’m glad you got out because you definitely were not happy there.

        • Deac September 15, 2018 at 2:26 pm #

          VetsRN, how I wish you had attended nursing or PA school here in Winston-Salem, in the rolling NC Piedmont, where we buoy our vigorous attitude toward life with creative community engagement. You and I could have attended the National Black Theatre Festival (45,000 visitors/$8 million local economic boon each year), our scintillating Bookmarks Festival, or the River Run Film Festival, all kept going by scores of enthusiastic donors and volunteers. We could have compared cultural notes at Old Salem, SECCA, and Reynolda House Museum and Gardens. I could have taken you to a performance or concert at the UNC School of the Arts, a world-famous conservatory, two of whose illustrious graduates are up for Emmys this weekend. We could have wandered through Wake Forest University’s Innovation Quarter in our hip and thriving downtown, where you could have talked to people engaged in life-saving research or practiced yoga with a group at Bailey Park before kicking back a local brew or a dram of locally distilled spirits.

          I could have met you at one of our 40 area wineries, many established on exhausted family tobacco farms. Thanks to our widely-respected NC Viticulture and Enology efforts, these old homesteads are now models of rejuvenated land and best soil-conservation practices. There we could have discussed your perception of Durham’s racism in light of the fact that the county favored Clinton in 2016 by a 79% margin over Trump. He won the entire state by only a 3.6% margin, which we might have agreed, over an award-winning Pinot, suggests less statewide ignorance and arrogance than you perceive.

          How I would like to introduce you to farmers in my corner of Forsyth County, hard-working young couples and legacy agricultural families who have transformed farm-to-table dreams into daily reality: you could have talked about suburban sprawl and red-clay reclamation with the nice people who raise organic pastured beef, the market gardeners who grow micro-greens, the jazzy couple who sell blueberry ginger kombucha, or the scrappy folks whose free-range eggs are still warm from the nest at the farm market. All local, all dedicated to a more liveable and resilient future than you and Mr. Kunstler seem to imagine possible in North Carolina.

          I know it is easy to tar all Tarheels with the same brush. But it is lazy, ill-informed, and unfair to condemn all of us along with the benighted and corrupt legislators flailing in what inevitable demographic projections affirm is the death-throes of their influence. Focus instead on movements like Rev. William Barber’s Poor People’s Campaign and Moral Mondays, a grassroots surge of impassioned citizens who continue to hold our venal General Assembly to account. Focus instead on the organic strawberry farmer crouched over her loamy field, the pre-law student at Winston-Salem State and the veteran training for a new career at Forsyth Tech, the Piedmont Land Conservancy advocate and the Yadkin riverkeepers, the Black Theatre Rep volunteer and voter-registration volunteer going door to door. They have a stake in North Carolina. They’re not willing to give up. Neither am I. Best wishes.

          • CancelMyCard September 18, 2018 at 10:29 am #

            That still leaves you with 7 months of hot soup per year, and with Climate Change proceeding rapidly, it will soon be 12 months of hot soup per year.

            You can have it all to yourselves, thank you very much.

  3. Mountain gal September 14, 2018 at 10:07 am #

    I spent some time in that area last year for the first time and was horrified by the traffic. Only way to get anywhere was to drive and the traffic was just insane. some serious road-rage and aggressive driving going on.

    The price of housing blew my mind as well; couldn’t figure out why homes were selling for what they were there. Even in places like Wilmington NC which seemed to now exist so far as I could tell just to be cute and quaint for the tourists. The houses built right along the coast by the beaches also caught my eye. I recall wondering how they’d do in in a hurricane; not too good I imagine. I figured the owners had the money to just rebuild after they were flattened.

    Will be interesting to see how it goes. I know that both Carolina’s have pretty much replaced Florida as the “go to” retirement destinations for Northerners tired of the snow and cold.

    • My Point of View September 14, 2018 at 2:32 pm #

      Houses are expensive? Yes they are.

      Why are they expensive? Idiotic tax laws that reward those who buy up SFHs and rent them out to “losers” who cannot afford to buy a house.

      Endless rounds of GOP tax cuts for the upper brackets puts trillions of dollars into the hands of those who don’t need any tax cuts and who won’t build any “facktwies” like G.W.Bush said they would.

      This free money buys up equities in stock markets, and thanks to ridiculous depreciation allowances, buy up millions of homes in the housing market. All this money chasing a return just drives up the price of those asset classes to astronomical levels.

      Irrational exuberance? You betcha.

      Young people and working class priced out of home ownership? You betcha.

      The system is rigged. In favor of the wealthy. It’s a special club, and you aren’t in it.

  4. John of the West September 14, 2018 at 10:08 am #

    The artifical nature of modern society makes it much less like to survive catastrophic events. Over time, the damage adds up, but there is not healing like there is in normal, healthy, growing cultures based on reality. Over time, crises like this, and their accumulated damage will push us closer and closer to a new dark age.

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  5. shotho September 14, 2018 at 10:10 am #

    As someone who lives in the South but, spends part of each year in Montana, I know a little bit about variations in geography and culture. There is very little difference in the wastelands both regions have become. From a sleepy, peaceful village in the 1970’s, Missoula has become a modern wonderland of busy highways and endless shopping strips. Also, people building further away from town every year, expecting to drive in for their urban fixes.
    Is the economy of either region sustainable; certainly not, anymore than upstate New York. But, there’s a lot to salvage and people will make their adjustments as needed. The Plains states may have to go back to dry-land farming and southerners may have to return to the land; plenty of arable land left. The human spirit (and necessity) aren’t lost, only buried under materialism and secularism. The sun also rises!

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  6. Doc Holliday September 14, 2018 at 10:20 am #

    Spent 10 days without power after Isabel in 2003. Have a bored well with a hand operated water pump built in 1959. No permanent power for us nor our neighbors but that well pump was the ‘new center of social interaction’ for that duration. We all lived.
    One fact is certain.
    Scrap metal prices will plummet as will this Winter’s (and next year’s) firewood prices.

  7. fred September 14, 2018 at 10:25 am #

    There will be rebuilding; translation, more borrowed money.
    But this area is under insured for flood damage. And some of the retirees will have problems rebuilding because their pockets will turn out to be not deep enough to cover the additional costs.

    In these situations, the main damage happens at the margins; all the people who are living on the financial edge to begin with. For example, the “Stay Behinds” who couldn’t come up with the cash to cover the cost of temporarily getting out of harm’s way. The housing market serving military families around the Fort Bragg area never recovered from the GFC in 2008; many are still underwater on their mortgages.

    Another thing that happened further south in FL since last year’s hurricanes is that insurance companies have stopped writing home owner’s insurance policies altogether and have been, “getting out of Dodge” so to speak. The ones who have chosen to stay in this market are raising rates; in some cases to very high levels.

    There will be bright and shiny new facades many places, but it will be a veneer covering the financial stresses that will continue to build. And there will be zero news reporting on the people who are going to lose out and be permanently left behind.

    • My Point of View September 14, 2018 at 2:37 pm #

      Under-insured is a problem all over. If this storm follows the predicted path into TN then up through WV and dumps massive rainfalls into those narrow steep valleys just wait for it and watch all the coal miner’s shacks floating away. You can bet that 99% of these MAGA men have zero flood insurance even though a quaint little creek runs by their rustic retreats.

  8. Georges1202 September 14, 2018 at 10:30 am #


    I am in favor of corporate sponsorship of hurricanes. Instead of Hurricane Blingus you would have Hurricane Amazon etc. All news outlets would be required to replace the swirling eye with the company logo. They would get intense blanket exposure for a week or so.

    This would be at no cost to the corporations, the only requirement would be that they would have to pay for any damage their storm did. You know, how Exxon-Mobil gladly paid for all the damage it did in Alaska…

    • elysianfield September 14, 2018 at 11:58 am #

      “I am in favor of corporate sponsorship of hurricanes. Instead of Hurricane Blingus you would have Hurricane Amazon etc. All news outlets would be required to replace the swirling eye with the company logo. They would get intense blanket exposure for a week or so.”


    • AKlein September 16, 2018 at 6:24 am #

      “Brought to you by Carls Jr.”

  9. noel bodie September 14, 2018 at 10:32 am #

    Lets not forget all the pig and chicken shit on the landscape. I can’t remember… which one is called the new white meat?

    • sprawlcapital September 14, 2018 at 10:43 am #

      That’s pork of course, Neal. Unfortunately, our landscape here in Iowa has also been taken over by industrial-scale hog confinements, as well as turkey and chicken factories.

      The number of hogs in North Carolina exploded from around 2 million in 1970 to something like 12 million by 1990, as production went industrial. (Approximate numbers.) This is not something to be proud of.

      • sprawlcapital September 14, 2018 at 10:44 am #

        Neal [Noel]

        • malthuss September 14, 2018 at 1:13 pm #

          I understand factory farms make whole areas unpleasant to live in.
          And the meat plants that go with this chain of supply hire new merikans. Someone went back to their Iowa town and found it ruined by the new merikans who work at the meat plant.

  10. sprawlcapital September 14, 2018 at 10:33 am #

    Sure wish I could be there for the discussion on W. 23rd St. this

    My wife predicted you’d write about Florence today. Not a tough call, really. Great post, by the way!

    Thanks for calling it chip board, not strand board. The former is the term we use here in the Midwest, and we have lots of it in our newer “developments”. That and its close cousin, particle board.

    It was particle board that I was nailing down in Nov. 1975 for the subflooring of a new apartment building during my three days on the only construction job I’ve had, before I got fired. It seems I was not very good at nailing down particle board; but, then, this was destined to be a not very good apartment building. That was in Coralville, Iowa, a suburb of Iowa City, home of the famed Writer’s Workshop, where Kurt Vonnegut once taught, and the author of First Blood (David Morrell?) once studied.

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    • PeteAtomic September 14, 2018 at 10:55 am #

      I spent a couple years there

    • Tate September 14, 2018 at 10:55 am #

      A Georgian, Flannery O’Connor, also matriculated at the Iowa Writer’s Workshop. Her advisor wrote later that upon their first meeting, she spoke to him in a strange tongue that he could barely decipher as English. “We” really are different nations. The South will eventually go its own way as it was always destined to do. It is dystopian in its own unique way, just as Yankee-land is.

      • Janos Skorenzy September 14, 2018 at 12:20 pm #

        A noble soul. One time a well known Black writer tried to get her to eat with him in public and in so doing, betray the ethos and mores of her own people. She turned him down with no apology. Self interest? Yes, but including in the best sense since betrayal was then in vogue and she could have written her own ticket anyplace out of town.

  11. chipshot September 14, 2018 at 10:45 am #

    We could be seeing the future of runaway climate chaos unfolding before our very eyes. Communities, cities, and even states (FL–the whole state–came frightening close to being flattened by Irma a year ago) getting wiped out and rendered unlivable, with the randomness of a roulette wheel. Causes include hurricanes, wildfires, floods and droughts. Who’s next? Care to take a spin of the wheel?

    • Janos Skorenzy September 14, 2018 at 12:22 pm #

      Such things have always happened, but you probably like to think of Trump as “complicit”. And was Katrina an “inside job”? It depends on what Katrina you are talking about.

    • SpeedyBB September 16, 2018 at 4:33 pm #

      Several of the websites I visit on occasion posit a concurrent (if unrelated) upsurge in earth tremors / earthquakes worldwide. We just had a biggie in Lombok, one island over from Bali (which would have been a super-catastrophe, had it hit there). Seven hundred aftershocks at last count. And they are (naturally) already talking about / planning to rebuild shattered schools and homes. How can you rebuild when the earth is still rock’n’rolling?

      Next look out for the solar showers doing an EMP on us. ‘When it rains, it pours.’

  12. PeteAtomic September 14, 2018 at 10:49 am #

    Maybe in place of the wreckage, hanging gardens, roman villas, generous swaths of fields producing grapes & herbs, and warm, stuccoed homes with cool sea breezes will replace the flotsam post hurricane.

    Nah, it’ll just be more of the same

    • bhnj13 September 15, 2018 at 8:31 am #

      we blow so many opportunities. theyll just put all the houses on piles and use miami-level hurricaneproof windows in the highrises.
      ive made it my life’s mission to do something along the lines of what you just described, albeit less sarcastically lol, due in no small part to The Long Emergency which i read as a freshman in college. i have a small construction company in nj. its tough, though. “people” as in not contributors to this blog are simply not aware that there are better ways and that there is a problem with the whole arrangement.

  13. FincaInTheMountains September 14, 2018 at 10:52 am #

    Chronicles of the War of the Roses in the US, turning into the New York rumors

    In connection with the description of the news as a tin can, and rumors, leaks and properly deciphered manipulations combined with an understanding of the religious nature of the developing conflict, I missed a few very important events in the US that only seem very important (and are very important if you consider them outside the context), but in fact they are a natural development of trends that were determined by other, earlier events.

    For example, in a series of posts about a news tin can, I described how Trump, after a seemingly terrible blow with the simultaneous conviction by the jury of the former manager of his election campaign, Paul Manafort, and the deal with the Flying Monkey’s investigation concluded by his former lawyer Michael Cohen, instead of attack on Syria to once again please the Clintonoids who threatened to arrest him immediately, went on the offensive on the “Deep State” and in two of his interviews prepared the ground for absolutely incredible performance by Rudy Giuliani, in which the head of Trump’s legal team threatened revolt of the American people against the above-mentioned “deep state” if Trump will be impeached.

    And if you take into account that Trump supporters really have a lot of weapons and they are very well organized, then Trump’s call for an uprising and storming of local FBI buildings and other organizations trying to overthrow him not only on TV but also on Twitter will lead to the physical destruction of the Deep State in the course of several hours.

    It is another matter that after this the country awaits unprecedented rampant crime, bloody massacres against the supporters of the Democratic Party, which have nothing to do with the Deep State, the collapse of the US bipartisan system and, accordingly, Jeffersonian democracy, and beyond all doubt the collapse of the world financial system based on the dollar.

    That is exactly what Trump is trying to avoid while depriving Hillary Clinton the red button.

    But apparently on the other side of the scale lies something much more serious and dangerous for the people of the United States and the US, if Trump and Giuliani made such statements. In any case, the highly experienced Giuliani could not ignore these circumstances, while striking such a blow, as he was the mayor of New York during 911 and played a huge, I would even say the most important role in the fact that the global economic crisis did not break out in 2001.

    Giuliani: People would revolt against Trump impeachment

    The most interesting thing is that such unprecedented, dangerous and beyond all sensational statement was almost completely ignored by the mainstream media and was practically not discussed outside the pro-Tramp forums. What actually made me immerse myself in this world (pro-Tramp forums), which was practically unfamiliar to me, and there I was surprised to find such informational treasures and deposits of artistic truth that it would take me several months to comprehend.

    In particular, I was simply amazed when I discovered in this world a very distorted story of how I predicted the attack on Hillary by the spirits of the people killed in the course of 911, which somehow penetrated from the Runet (Russian Internet) into the world of American forums without any of my participation.

    Truly, we can not predict how our word could be echoed!

    But these all just crumbs that have only relation to me personally, but the rumor that relates to all of us is that in New York, under the guise of celebrating the 50th anniversary of Ralph Lauren’s show, an emergency meeting of Clintonoids on measures to suppress this uprising and plans for the evacuation of the leaders of the Deep State in case of its success.

    And guess from three attempts to what country they are going to evacuate?

    Hillary Clinton Was A Breath of Fresh Air at Ralph Lauren’s 50th Anniversary Show

    I, for one, do not know – the forum was interrupted at the most interesting place, but I guess where the matter went, and let me note that the law signed the day before yesterday by Trump about measures to counter interference in the American elections and the corresponding sanctions will be specified in law enforcement and other departments for 45 days and only then will be enacted.

    And this means that its meaning will be determined by the November elections, and if Trump supporters win on them, it will be aimed at those who in Russia, on the order of Hillary Clinton, helped to compile the anti-Trump file.

    And in this connection, the new movie in which America rescues the Russian president from a conspiracy aimed at seizing control of the Russian Strategic Missile Forces and launching a nuclear strike against the United States draws attention to artistic truth.

    The plot for America is traditional and I’ve seen at least 3 such movies in the 90s, but I do not know for Russia.

    But notice who at the beginning of the first minute is in charge of the entire operation to save the important for US president of Russia – this Russian president is saved not by Trump’s America, but America that was saved from Trump’s conspiracy, who imagined that he, with the help of votes of Americans, duped by Russia, can become the head of the most powerful state on the planet.
    And the context of this meeting, if it was actually held, and was in this context, draws attention its similarity to the artistic truth of Kubrick’s brilliant movie “Eyes Wide Shut”, in which the all-powerful head of the sect practicing ritual sex is a fashion designer, and I from all my studies of the Wars of the Roses in England, I think I know the name of this designer, and it’s not “Ralph Lauren”, but he had been at Ralph Lauren’s.

    Hunter Killer (2018 Movie) Official Trailer

    And, going back to the mainstream = Clinton media, suppressing the sensational statements of President Trump and Rudy Giuliani, I want to say that one of such epoch-making events that occurred after the above-mentioned interviews of Trump and Giuliani was the so-called article-opinion published in NYT by a high-ranking anonymous official in the Trump administration called “I’m part of the resistance to Trump’s decisions in the Tramp administration.”

    And I do not want to waste my and your time discussing this really important article, which will still have great consequences because in my opinion the only reason for the publication of this article right now is to distract attention from the interview of Trump and Giuliani.

    Very briefly, I will say that this article describes in detail the sabotage system of the Trump administration and its substitution with the Hillary Clinton administration, whose decisions Clinton’s media in Russia declare as “achievements” of the Trump administration, and they are developing the most rabid anti-Americanism under this pretext.

    Think about it again: people who praised America since 1991 suddenly became frenzied anti-Americanists, as soon as the president came to power in America who openly proclaims the usefulness of US cooperation with Russia and understands that it is impossible to cooperate with Russia in Afghanistan, but to sabotage it in Syria and in Ukraine.

    Another epochal news is that Bastinda for the fight with Trump in this situation recruited Kerry, who really had very warm relations with Lavrov, and President Obama, whose speech was declared a speech against Trump, although in fact it was just as much directed against Hillary Clinton (For example, the question: How difficult is it to declare that support for Nazism is bad?) can be considered directed against Clinton, who purposefully supported neo-Nazis and Bandera people throughout Eastern Europe!

  14. PeteAtomic September 14, 2018 at 10:53 am #

    Omg finca lol

  15. janet September 14, 2018 at 11:31 am #

    Great writing today, Jim!

    Welcome back. After weeks of bashing Democrats and predicting economic collapse, you have returned to the knd of concrete and regional observation at which you excel.

    I say regional because I live in the USA and your colorful description of the southeast suburban wasteland does not describe anything like where I live. But then my region of the USA does not have floods, tornados, hurricanes, shopping malls, Starbucks, NASCAR, or mosquitos!

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    • Ol' Scratch September 14, 2018 at 4:54 pm #

      Sounds like Liberal Valhalla. More likely a virtual fantasy world of your own creation.

    • BornToKillPeace September 14, 2018 at 9:27 pm #

      Keep Christ in Truck Month!

    • bhnj13 September 15, 2018 at 8:21 am #

      we blow so many opportunities. theyll just put all the houses on piles and use miami-level hurricaneproof windows in the highrises.
      ive made it my life’s mission to do something along the lines of what you just described due in no small part to The Long Emergency which i read as a freshman in college. i have a small construction company in nj. its tough, though. “people” as in not contributors to this blog are simply not aware that there are better ways and neve

  16. Sean Coleman September 14, 2018 at 11:37 am #

    The following is an excerpt from an article by Donna Laframboise that I remember, chosen almost at random. It is old now (2011) but it gives a flavour of what is going on in the IPCC. Christopher Landsea is an expert on hurricanes.

    ‘Landsea said his decision to leave the IPCC was spurred by the realization that the hurricane section of its upcoming report had “become politicized.” Via his open letter, he said, he wished to raise awareness about “what I view as a problem in the IPCC process.”

    ‘Kevin Trenberth, who is not a hurricane expert, had participated in a press conference in which the media and the public were led to believe that a link exists between global warming and more intense hurricanes. When Landsea protested to the IPCC that this was improper, especially given the fact that Trenberth was in charge of the hurricane section of the climate bible then being prepared, he was blown off. In his words:

    “It is beyond me why my colleagues would utilize the media to push an unsupported agenda that recent hurricane activity has been due to global warming. Given Dr. Trenberth’s role as the IPCC’s [coordinating] Lead Author responsible for preparing the text on hurricanes, his public statements so far outside of current scientific understanding led me to concern that it would be very difficult for the IPCC process to proceed objectively with regards to the assessment on hurricane activity.

    ‘…I was disappointed when the IPCC leadership dismissed my concerns when I brought up the misrepresentation of climate science while invoking the authority of the IPCC. Specifically, the IPCC leadership said that Dr. Trenberth was speaking as an individual even though he was introduced in the press conference as an IPCC lead author; I was told that that the media was exaggerating or misrepresenting his words, even though the audio from the press conference and interview tells a different story…and that Dr. Trenberth was accurately reflecting conclusions from the [2001 Climate Bible], even though it is quite clear that [it] stated that there was no connection between global warming and hurricane activity. The IPCC leadership saw nothing to be concerned with in Dr. Trenberth’s unfounded pronouncements to the media…”


    I was surprised when I looked up Landsea’s Wikipedia entry that it doesn’t try to attack his credibility, which is usually the case with AGW sceptics there.

    Laframboise wrote an excellent short book about the many, many shortcomings of the IPCC, based largely on a kind of ‘citizens’ audit’ which a number of her readers carried out of the organization, looking for example at the actual qualifications of its ‘leading scientists’, many of whom turn out to be recently qualify postgraduates or activists with environmental organizations without any relevant qualifications whatsoever. They checked the IPCC’s claims that everything was peer reviewed (far from it, and often tendentious passages from journals belonging to those environmentalist organizations were included). There were a lot of things they found out, including the hollowness of its claims (from memory) about the excellence of its internal review procedures.

    For those who have read, ignored, endured or spluttered at my previous posts on a quite different topic (although psychologically closely related) does any of this ring a bell?

    Framboise shows that some good things really do come out of Canada (although I think she has feminist views I strongly disagree with).

  17. JustSaying September 14, 2018 at 11:41 am #

    Great post. It truly is the greatest misallocation of resources in the history of the world.

    • Georges1202 September 14, 2018 at 11:48 am #

      2nd only to the junk food required to keep that simpleton in the White House going.

  18. JohnAZ September 14, 2018 at 12:02 pm #

    One thing I do not understand about Trump is why he puts up with the BS that is launched in his direction. His ego must be enormous to think he can change, make a deal, with the biggest bunch of losers in the history of this country. It is no wonder why presidents come to D.C., try to do what they think is right, and after a while give up and just go with the flow. Also known as the Deep State. Just part of the balance of powers in the Constitution.

    No matter what the damage reports say from the hurricane, no matter how effective the FEMA response is, the Deep Staters are going to try to crucify Trump and blame the whole thing on him. What a powerful person, the hurricanes are his fault. This country is nuts.

    • Walter B September 14, 2018 at 12:47 pm #

      He takes it John because he knows that it comes with the position he has assumed because of who and what he is trying to do. There is nothing he can do to shut up the assholes, so he has to avoid return fire and press on with his work. They attack him to distract him, just like some do here. Whether you like him or not, he is smart enough to ignore the whining of most of the babies and fools and press on with what he is trying to do. As I have professed previously, I never really liked the man before, but from what I am told by people that know him and deal with him on a regular basis, he is very, very intelligent. It makes sense that so many people would hate him because he is intelligent because jealousy is one of the most prevalent human failings, especially in our consumer based society.

      • lbs September 14, 2018 at 4:17 pm #

        But he often feels the need to chime in for no reason. The theoretical casualty count on Puerto Rico is ludicrous, but why fuel the media clownhouses by jumping into the discussion?

        • Walter B September 14, 2018 at 8:04 pm #

          I have made the mistake myself often of saying too much or chiming in when I should have simply STFU, you are accurate in your criticism. I am not sore why some of us feel the need to comment and have not learned already that when you are in the public spotlight, silence is sometimes not only golden but is the smart move.

          • Walter B September 14, 2018 at 11:35 pm #

            That would be “sure” and not sore, damn your eyes spellcheck. I must confess that I was Donald Trump long before Donald Trump was so I understand why so many take issue with him. He says things, he talks like a regular person and is not really “presidential” in what he says and how he says it. I always felt that this was a good thing, at least for me, but the masses seem to prefer clowns like Jon Corzine and Barry Obama that can throw flowery sentences and lofty “Hope and Change” phrases in the crowd’s direction to placate them and perhaps lull them into a false sense of security. It is clear to me that the crowd does not want to hear things that upsets them, or makes it necessary that they turn from their main desire to return to distraction, entertainment and the pursuit of happiness and have to do any actual work.

  19. BuckP September 14, 2018 at 12:04 pm #

    As the brillant Rob Kirby stated on USA Watchdog w/ Greg Hunter last week:

    “…when you assign zero interest rates to fiat money, you’re assigning a zero cost to capital and human beings are human capital and I don’t know anybody who works for free…. what zero interst rates do is trivialize labor, it trivializes effort and basically it trivializes life because rhat’s the way we keep score…”

    Out here in the Vegas area, with nothing but endless desert available, new slapped-together, dust collecting, spec homes are going for $400,000 a pop. To recreate the Hollywood Hills for the transplanted Californians, who have relocated here after selling their dilapidated SoCal bungalows for millions, developers are terracing the once beautiful McCullough Range south of Henderson to build million dollar homes. All this mayhem, so the transplants can have a Strip View to replace the Pacific Ocean view they gave up. It would be funny, if it wasn’t so sad. I hope the rattlers reclaim their lost turf but I’m sure once the kiddies and doggies are threatened, the snakes will be exterminated.
    Happy Days are here again, Whoopie!

    • My Point of View September 14, 2018 at 2:49 pm #

      Love it or hate it, the NY Times did a sterling good article on how the epicenter of the 2008 housing bust is leading the way again into the next housing bust. It correlates nicely with your comments.

      Did the mortgage industry learn anything in the last housing debacle. Not according to a recent Broookings study.

      Read it and weep. It’s only a matter of time before the next economic catastrophe befalls a befuddled nation.

      • BuckP September 14, 2018 at 7:56 pm #

        Thanks for the links! Excellent articles!

        In addition to housing, there is a massive amount of commercial construction of all kinds here in Vegas. One thing we have noticed is that a lot of this new space is empty and not leased. There is a commercial property, suitable for a small glitzy outdoor shopping mall, a few blocks from us here in Henderson that has been vacant for over three years with the once beautiful xeriscape now dead. An increase in the pecentage of commercial property vacancies is like a flashing red lighrt on the dashboard indicating that something is wrong under the hood.

        • AKlein September 16, 2018 at 6:48 am #

          BuckP, you identify a very real situation which I see in my environs (he East Coast). I see new buildings unoccupied for years. I wonder to myself, who is paying the mortgage and taxes on these edifices? How does that work financially? OK, ok, so imagine that the original “owners” and the the secondary “owners”, and so on, can’t make the financials for the place work. Who, then, is the owner of last resort? How exactly is the Potemkin Village being kept alive? I suspect that there is a whole alter economy of which poor slobs (like myself,who believe success is the product of hard word) have no ken. Over the years this alter economy has gained way too many acolytes, which, I suspect, is the the primary driver of our current financial, and cultural, state of affairs. But what I suggest is nothing new. Our host JHK has opined many times regarding our national predilection for easy money and the ruination to which it will ultimately lead.

  20. 100th Avatar September 14, 2018 at 12:07 pm #

    I believe it’s that night. She buried him the next mornin’. Diggin’ in that hard old caliche.

    What you got ain’t nothin new.

    This country is hard on people.

    You can’t stop what’s comin’. Ain’t all waitin’ on you.

    That’s vanity.

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    • Janos Skorenzy September 14, 2018 at 12:26 pm #

      Northern Virginia is full of new diversity: Hispanics, Asians, Somalis, etc. That’s really going to help. Diversity is our (their) strength just as your credit is their debit.

      The great Tucker Carlson finally asked on mainstream TV, What is the benefit of diversity? Such a thing hasn’t been done in generations.

      • Tate September 14, 2018 at 3:07 pm #

        Diversity is beneficial in small quantities. Think international trade & diplomacy. The Russians knew how to handle it in the time of the czars: keep the “diversity” contained in self-contained districts.

        But Americans are gullible, believing in the “we are a nation of immigrants” bloviation. They believe that if something is good, more is always better. In this case, public-policy-become-quasi-religious-belief is cultural suicide.

      • Exscotticus September 14, 2018 at 4:45 pm #

        Too much diversity leads to fragmentation—not strength. You can take a field of wheat and make it more diverse by adding locusts, but I doubt that’s a benefit to anyone but the locusts.

      • 100th Avatar September 14, 2018 at 9:37 pm #

        The benefit is no cohesive majority with entrenched power and influence.

        The government loves voters with hands open taking alms

  21. 100th Avatar September 14, 2018 at 12:10 pm #

    This storm is mostly fake news hot air.

    Footage of some college aged TelePrompTer reader in a hooded raincoat at the shore yelling at some country boy

    “That man should not be fishing out here”

    Same could be said for his televised whining.

    I detest the media

  22. rhys12 September 14, 2018 at 12:17 pm #

    After watching hurricane coverage for many years, I am completely mystified as to why people nail particle board over their windows year after year. If you live in a hurricane zone, why wouldn’t you build your house with strong shutters to begin with, or equip it with them if it wasn’t built with them?

    • JohnAZ September 14, 2018 at 12:26 pm #

      The only thing that will fix this apparent stupidity is when the insurance companies say no more, we refuse to insure these POS you are building. Also, how about the folks who stay behind and expect to be bailed out when the storm is as bad as the weather channel says. Local 1st responders should put them last on the priority list. Note that Janet is smart enough to know that if you live in a non-threat area, you do not have to sweat the load.

      This country is nuts!

      • My Point of View September 14, 2018 at 2:58 pm #

        We had not one but two catastrophic fires in Colorado Springs, each burning hundreds of expensive homes to the ground and each fire killing two people. The Waldo Canyon fire and the Black Forest fire.

        Only after these disasters did insurance firms put its foot down and demand that if people want to live among the trees they must clear defensible space around their homes, else no insurance for you.

        If insurers put their foot down on the home building industry we’d have a lot less crap to contend with. No combustible roofs or siding. No wood mulch around homes and garages. Removal of tree branches below 8 feet from the ground. Sprinkler systems. Window shutters. The government is too impotent to demand such things, but if “private industry” sets the rules it will happen.

        • bhnj13 September 15, 2018 at 8:42 am #

          the abandonment of shutters in this country is still something i dont really understand. you can only laugh when you see the fake shutters, with no hinges, screwed to the side of the macmansion. they help with many problems – ballistic, heating, cooling, privacy. but we have ac so screw it and they look nice. people love them in savannah or the french quarter but not in suburbia. doesnt make sense

          • islander800 September 15, 2018 at 10:06 am #

            Just came back from a vacation in northern France. One takeaway is that their housing stock, all of it, has a built solidity and permanence to it that is sorely lacking in quick-buck-development North America. It’s not only the centuries-old buildings constructed of limestone with tile roofs, working shutters for heat mitigation, most with up-to-date modernized interiors to standards that make our home fittings look like cheap crap in comparison. New homes are built of pre-cast blocks incorporating multi-cell inner structures, again for insulation and heat mitigation, with exteriors finished with attractive smooth stucco – all with working shutters and ceramic tile roofs – that follow a design ethic that evokes traditional French homes. In short, it’s all built as strong ns sturdy as a brick shithouse and designed to last. And they don’t even have hurricanes to worry about.

            If “cheese-eating surrender monkeys” can figure it out, why can’t we? Maybe they’re actually smarter and building for posterity, not designed obsolescence.

    • Tate September 14, 2018 at 2:27 pm #

      Back when storm shutters were in common use, there were no satellite images of hurricanes offshore. You knew it was a bad storm when you were in its full grip. Thus the few people who lived along the shore didn’t mass-evacuate, they planned on riding out anything that came their way, thus the utility of storm shutters.

      Today, it’s a matter of pure economics. Particle board is cheaper than storm shutters all things factored in, including initial costs, maintenance, tax deductions, insurance.

      • bhnj13 September 15, 2018 at 8:43 am #

        its not cheaper if you have to uninstall and then reinstall it for the next storm.

        • Tate September 15, 2018 at 1:28 pm #

          Then why do people do it? They’re acting irrationally, I suppose, against their own economic interests, lol.

  23. capt spaulding September 14, 2018 at 12:18 pm #

    Trump said that Puerto Rico was a success story, so I guess we can wish the same success on the Carolinas. With Trump’s record with regards to hurricanes, the good red state citizens who voted for him will have ample reason for being grateful that he won the election. Don’t worry about a thing, Florence will keep an eye on things for us.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 14, 2018 at 12:28 pm #

      The Puerto Ricans (the PR’s!) were caught hiding supplies instead of distributing them. An intention to later sell them? Or just an effort to make the President look bad? It’s a non-White banana state that should be allowed to become a banana republic. Anything as long as it’s away from us. Thank God we didn’t annex Mexico.

      • capt spaulding September 14, 2018 at 11:13 pm #

        That’s not necessary. Mexico is annexing us.

    • JohnAZ September 14, 2018 at 12:32 pm #

      Trump had nothing to do with the held up relief that was sitting on the docks in San Juan. Or the line of BS being generated by the government of PR trying to CYA. It was recognized by the people of PR how corrupt the government there is way prior to Maria as they declared bankruptcy the year before the storm. Good Lord, Trump must have broad shoulders, to shoulder the blame for all the corruption of the world.

      This country is nuts!

  24. JohnAZ September 14, 2018 at 12:20 pm #

    Right on. Who is responsible for creating the anti-America attitude that pervades this country now. Who spreads the line of BS being generated by the Deep State and their international friends, who hate the US. The free press, what a joke, is tearing this country apart. And by the way, how come the entire press corps have turned into Deep Staters. Why is the only network that halfway champions the conservative viewpoint is Fox, and only part of it. The media is using the old saying that a lie repeated enough times becomes the truth.

    I too hate the media, and the evil that they propagandize for.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 14, 2018 at 12:31 pm #

      The dragon’s teeth were sown long ago. Find our WHO is responsible for getting the seditious and treasonous “A People’s History of the United States” by Howard Zinn into every college of the Land. Of course tens of millions of little traitors were created – that was the point.

  25. Janos Skorenzy September 14, 2018 at 12:34 pm #


    All over America Liberals are wading thru the waters of nescience out to their cars to scrape off the “Tibet for the Tibetans” bumper stickers off their fenders. How could such a thing every apply to Whites and Europe? He is a terrible man who tricked them into nationalism!

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  26. Walter B September 14, 2018 at 12:38 pm #

    Yup Jim, it must really suck to live in Hurricane Alley. I learned forty years ago after being caught offshore on a 60 foot fishing boat in a really bad gale with 30 foot seas that living anywhere that those two sometimes evil beasts can come together to screw up your life is NOT for me. Yes the loss of life from the storms is almost always low, at least here on the mainland, but the amount of devastation and the cash that it takes to clean up and rebuild is staggering. As I recall after the last Huston mega-hurricane one of the positive thinkers who used to come here claimed that everything would be fine and rebuilding would take no time at all. I wonder how that work is going? Certainly it takes a huge amount of cash, time and human effort to recover from these things and your ongoing concerns about where it will all come from is always a valid concern for those of us who do not trust the printing press model. In the end the working class pays for it, we always do. The question is do we all still have enough credit left to do that? I suppose time will tell.

    • Q. Shtik September 14, 2018 at 5:22 pm #

      Look at the bright side, the spending for rebuilding adds to the GDP.

      • Walter B September 14, 2018 at 8:05 pm #

        Indeed it does.

      • Q. Shtik September 14, 2018 at 8:17 pm #

        Sorry, I wrote this hours after someone else made the same point. But let me be a little more specific. A whole world has opened up for people able to communicate via sign language.

        A Governor is speaking to the media and his constituents while a woman on his left is ‘signing’ that speech as fast as her little hands can speak. I noticed she had an English accent. She said something about a car with jual exhausts driving into 2 feet of water.

        • GreenAlba September 15, 2018 at 9:18 am #

          Let’s hope its owner has insoorance.

          • Q. Shtik September 15, 2018 at 4:24 pm #

            Or, better yet, insyoorance.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2018 at 6:02 am #

            Absolutely, Q. I’ll listen out for some Americans saying ‘insyoorance’ the way I say ‘dyoo-al’. 🙂

  27. JustSaying September 14, 2018 at 12:53 pm #

    Hardpan or caliche.


    To this day, much of the land in the South is still ruined. Instead of the thick black topsoil described by early settlers, the soil is thin and clayey, and sometimes missing entirely.

    • cbeard September 14, 2018 at 1:49 pm #

      The author should read Mark’s Daily Apple.

  28. RB September 14, 2018 at 1:01 pm #

    These storms create work. Roofers. Trash disposal. Reconstruction. New car sales. Lots. Insurance companies will spread the pain to those living in benign areas and raising rates on all. The storms add to the GDP. people die everyday from something. A flood is as good as a heart attack. Life is a risk no matter where you are. If you enjoy the coast then live there. Never a shortage of do gooders handing out advice. Oh, how about the poor slobs in MA who lost their houses due to natural gas overpressure? Bet they thought they were safe. Imagine the coming ass freezing winter and the thought in the back of your mind that my damn house might explode any moment. I will take the hurricane.


    • Walter B September 14, 2018 at 1:17 pm #

      Yes RB they certainly do create “economic opportunities” just like the events of 9/11 did, but it is not the loss of life that is the problem. There are plenty of people and we are easy to make and increasingly cheaper to maintain, at least for those who own us. The problem is that all of those “opportunities”, those jobs, just like the Fracking Boom, have to be paid for with future income, borrowed into existence under the requirement of those who follow to make payments on. Payments at interest too, that is why they have been keeping the interest rates at pretty much nothing. Heck it would all collapse very quickly if the rates did what they are supposed to do and everybody had to triple their monthly payments. Most can barely make them now.

      • RB September 14, 2018 at 2:13 pm #

        “for those who own us.”

        I do not feel owned. I have never felt that way with the exception of being drafted. Lesson learned there. No draft today. Why do you feel owned? Who controls you? Who makes your decisions for you? Typically, the deciding factor in most lives is finances. I do not know if “most can barely make it now.” I see my neighbors still stuffing their garages with exercise equipment, toys, clothing. They cannot park their new car in their garage. I’ve seen no evictions on my street. The theaters are full in the evenings. You have to stand in line at most restaurants. If there is a problem, I do not see it. If people are struggling financially then the options are to cut back on spending. Another is a second job. Deliver pizzas? I drive older vehicles (2004 and 2012). Bought used. I can afford a BMW, new, but my wants and needs remain separate. When everything else fails, then self-discipline is a wonderful attribute. Evidently there is not enough of that. I am also debt free and have been for 40 plus years. If you owe, then perhaps you are owned but you sold yourself into being owned.

        • Walter B September 14, 2018 at 2:37 pm #

          Well RB your point is well made and even though I have long since eliminated my debts and have socked away much for the proverbial rainy day, there are many ways in which we are controlled if not owned. Heck, I am even part of the local government so theoretically I “own” 1/5 of my paid off home, yet I still owe $475 a month in “rent” to the municipality. My vehicles are a well maintained 2000 MC and a 2002 PU Truck so that’s not too bad. Out here in Hunterdon County unfortunately we DO have many foreclosed homes, quite a few abandoned, some rotting away and I know because I carry a list of these and their implications on our tax base in my briefcase at all times.

          I am blessed that I no longer have race in 85 mph commuter traffic or sit in bumper to bumper crawls every day for many hours like the tens of thousands out there on Routes 78 & 80, but they are certainly “owned” or at least forced to suffer for wages that are shrinking. Yes RB, you and I have it far better than so many and “owned” may be a dramatization. Even “wage slaves” might be putting it harshly, but when you have seen the credit card and home equity bills that a very, very lot of my neighbors carry ($30k – $50k seems to be the average ), well freedom really does not seem all that free, at least to me.

          • RB September 14, 2018 at 2:48 pm #

            Ah yes, the lease payment to the local government also known as property tax. Could not agree more. I do not feel owned because of that. I could have retired abroad or lived aboard a boat or settled in a minimally taxed location. Every jurisdiction raises revenue some how. That is a separate issue which is to say that with the pension crises with governments, taxes are going to go up big time. Maybe I will feel owned then.


        • bibliomaniac September 14, 2018 at 7:51 pm #

          RB– “who owns us?” I’ve pondered this question many times and been told it’s algorithms.

    • GreenAlba September 14, 2018 at 1:24 pm #

      “These storms create work.”

      Basically, RB, you’re promoting the same logic as the warmongers and their ancillary industries.

      Disaster capitalism.

      • Walter B September 14, 2018 at 1:35 pm #

        Wikipedia calls capitalism….”an economic system based on private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit”.

        They attach no moral values nor any restrictions on what may be done to maintain a capitalist system and so we may logically conclude that profiting from war, the sale of drugs, prostitution, cutting up and selling the parts of dead bodies, simply anything that is done for profit fits the capitalism model.

        In a system where everything is for sale, eventually everything gets sold and then gets sold out. Without at least some form of morality (not religion btw) and therefore discipline the system crashes eventually. It is the Circle of Life.

      • RB September 14, 2018 at 2:03 pm #

        Well, WW II did create jobs. A lot of them. So what? It was a natural offshoot of having a war. Economic activity is an offshoot of a storm. Would you prefer to just leave everything as is and let it sit there rotting? Would you prefer everyone be forced to live in the interior of the country in concrete block houses? I do not deny there are warmongers. They are always with us. They put me in Vietnam against my will. A lot of positives came from that experience with the main one NEVER TO TRUST MY GOVERNMENT.

        If you have a means to control the weather, then I hope you will get on with it and hopefully send rains to our Southwestern desert.

        • Tate September 14, 2018 at 2:50 pm #

          What, you can’t control the weather! (Such an obvious observation.) But the moral preening is just so satisfying.

          • Tate September 14, 2018 at 2:54 pm #

            Not addressed to you, RB.

          • Walter B September 14, 2018 at 8:19 pm #

            Actually Tate, they can control the weather…..


            I printed out a copy of this and presented it to my Township attorney, a retired Major General in the US Air Force. “Where did you get this”, he asked me with a surprised look as he flipped through the pages. As we discussed the subject further it was clear that this is not even a secret, it is just another one of those things that the civilian population does not know because they really don’t care to know. It’s not like they would believe it even if the magically “authority”, whomever that might be, came out and announced it. There are so many things that regular people do not know about that are not even secrets because people generally only care about things that exist right in front of them, right in the middle of their own, personal lives. Most people care more about sports scores or how much they weigh, or how many grey hairs they have on their heads than any issues like weather control, global warming, or overpopulation. That is just how it is, no disrespect to them at all. Its probably better that way.

          • Tate September 15, 2018 at 1:32 pm #

            Uh-oh, this raises the issue of 6hemtrai1$.

          • Walter B September 15, 2018 at 3:10 pm #

            Well Tate, so many people argue vehemently about Global Warming or Climate Change or whatever it is or isn’t, but what exactly is being done about it besides nothing? If the government or military believes that it is a real problem and that something has to be done to combat it, and since people are so polarized on this issue, why would anyone think that they would not take whatever action they thought might work and keep the details to themselves? Did they send us memos to keep us updated about the atomic bomb they were working on in the 1940’s? Why would they not do aerosol spraying in the atmosphere? There are real life plans and even You Tube videos presented on these ideas, it is just that nobody admits to doing it, nor can they because of the liabilities. When it comes to the US government there are two major roadblocks that always get in the way of progress, incompetence and payoffs at the political level and the US public themselves. In fact, the only time our government ever gets anything done anymore is when they do it “backstage”.

        • GreenAlba September 15, 2018 at 7:26 am #

          “If you have a means to control the weather, then I hope you will get on with it and hopefully send rains to our Southwestern desert.”

          I don’t have a means to control the weather. But if we’d listened 40-50 years ago, we had the means to limit how much more extreme we made it. We still have the ability to make it much more extreme, and we seem happy to continue doing that. The tragic irony of the wildfires are Fort McMurray were not lost on everybody.

          As yet there hasn’t been enough work done to pronounce on a link between AGW and the frequency of hurricanes and cyclones – there may even be fewer – but one thing there’s no doubt about is that even a small rise in sea level creates an increase in storm surges and flooding.


          “Never mind the frequency, feel the width.”

          If you don’t mind the loss of life, I can’t argue with you. But I’m guessing that in the long term it will get harder and harder to find the resources – and the credit – to rebuild.

          • GreenAlba September 15, 2018 at 7:29 am #

            And fools who use stupid terms like ‘moral preening’ regarding a subject that presents an existential threat to our species are beyond help and best ignored.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 14, 2018 at 1:33 pm #

      War is Great too. Lots of profit to be made – usually for the victors that is.

      After Katrina, Black and White began to work together to rebuild the city. Then suddenly they were all fired: the Mexicans had arrived.

      America will die because it deserves to die. It is weak because it is no longer great, no longer great because it is no longer good.

      • PeteAtomic September 14, 2018 at 5:57 pm #

        When was the last time you were in the Big Easy, Janos? I was there for a short time this April. Wow, the place is an open sewer. The people there seemed joyless. The saxophonists & drummers played on, but unsmiling & tired out. Get out of the downtown, and it was just another suburban wasteland. Didn’t see the attraction to the place, whatsoever.

        • Janos Skorenzy September 14, 2018 at 9:10 pm #

          Yes, too much tourism will destroy anything. Even their joyful and easy going ways are destroyed. What happens when a man must play when he doesn’t feel it? Ditto for preachers. Ditto for everyone to some extent.

      • Tate September 15, 2018 at 1:40 pm #

        Well, I read Howard Zinn’s tome & discovered that America was never good. The discovery was earth-smashing, like when Rocky Balboa stood silent upon a peak in Darien & gazed upon the Pacific ocean with a wild surmise.

  29. malthuss September 14, 2018 at 1:16 pm #

    GREEN ALBA, ‘AGW is a mass ‘fantasy’,’

    It is a lie to distract you from the culture collapse that is all around us.
    Look over there.

    • GreenAlba September 14, 2018 at 1:22 pm #

      Oh, look, there’s a squirrel.

      Lucky me – I can contain two thoughts in my head at once, so I’m not that easily distracted.

      • PeteAtomic September 14, 2018 at 1:29 pm #

        is the squirrel gathering its nuts? 🙂

        or was Janos running around your yard again cuz the squirrel was black?

        🙂 ha ha

        • Janos Skorenzy September 14, 2018 at 1:37 pm #

          In other words, Whites don’t have the right to have their own Nations like other races. Are you just such a Cucked White or just a Non-White enemy?

          • RB September 14, 2018 at 2:19 pm #

            Janos, people want to believe that ultimately they will be treated fairly and justly. Jews in Germany for years thought that the Nazis would back off eventually. Oops. A segment of the white population believes that latinos, asians, and blacks will be fair in their exerting power when they have it and they will gain power. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA…. Never happen. That is not how human nature works. Whites have a greater sense of fairplay and justice than other races. Think abolitionist movement prior Civil War. People should spend time in Asia. Pick a place. Spend some months there. You will soon find out about racism.

          • PeteAtomic September 14, 2018 at 3:19 pm #

            I thought we were talking about rodents with bushy tails (are squirrels rodents?) that run around in yards.

            No clue what you going on about here, bud.

          • GreenAlba September 15, 2018 at 9:24 am #

            Me neither, PeteA. My squirrels were bushy-tailed rodents too.


          • GreenAlba September 17, 2018 at 5:59 am #

            Oh, look – five squirrels…


      • malthuss September 14, 2018 at 4:39 pm #

        You have mentioned AGW [a now passe term, as it didnt sell well enough] but you have not mentioned the change in UK, UK is the bow of your Titanic.

        • GreenAlba September 15, 2018 at 9:49 am #

          AGW remains a valid term, Malthuss. Climate change has, however, been increasingly used, quite possibly because some people are so dim that they confuse ‘global’ with ‘in my back yard’, as in ‘well, bud’, it seems to me all this global warming stuff is pure baloney, because right outside my window, there’s 18 inches of snow and last year there was only 12 inches’.

          And they know they’re right because the Uranus Examiner told them they’re right.


          You will find the problem is global, the statistics are global, and the consequences will be global, just not all the same at the same time. So it’s entirely possible to have an increasing number of wildfires or a drought of unheard-of length in one area while another has its crops simultaneously ruined by what used to be a 100-year flood but is now a five-year flood.

          The tendency to put fingers in ears and shout ‘lalalalala’ is global too, although it’s not identically prevalent everywhere.

          And with the true denier, it doesn’t matter what you call it. He doesn’t like it and that’s all he needs to know. So there. Lalala…

          • GreenAlba September 15, 2018 at 9:52 am #

            I’m not really casting aspersions on the Uranus Examiner. It was just handy. And for all I know if may be a very informative and outward-looking paper 🙂 .

          • GreenAlba September 15, 2018 at 9:53 am #


          • malthuss September 15, 2018 at 12:01 pm #

            I was at a talk, just yesterday.
            The North Poles sea lanes are opening.
            Who will own the North Pole?

          • GreenAlba September 15, 2018 at 12:06 pm #

            How can you own a notional point in the middle of an ocean?

          • Tate September 15, 2018 at 4:51 pm #

            The Chinese just built their first icebreaker (ship, not breath-mint.)

  30. beantownbill. September 14, 2018 at 1:31 pm #

    The best way to prognosticate the Carolinas’ post-hurricane future is to compare it with those areas in that were previously hit hard.

    I haven’t read much on post-Harvey Houston. What’s been happening there the past year? If someone knows, please tell me. How’s New Orleans really doing after Katrina?

    Walter and Q, you should know about the New Jersey shore’s situation after Sandy. What’s been going on there? I don’t hear much about these areas because, after all, the one-minute interest cycle of the public’s attention span is long gone. I really am curious.

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    • Walter B September 14, 2018 at 1:41 pm #

      The wealthy have pretty much rebuilt what they lost and sometimes even more, after all, many of these properties are owned by 1%ers. Some regular folks have repaired and are still rebuilding, others have vacant lots. There are still a number of damaged, unrepaired, unlivable homes scattered throughout the oceanfront “sandbar” .The Seaside Heights boardwalk that was decimated by the storms and by fire is rebuilt as far as the new plastic boardwalk goes, but there is much open boardwalk, a couple of missing piers, one new, empty pier and a lot less “attractions” The last I was there last year the big pier was still not open, I do not know about now.

  31. Janos Skorenzy September 14, 2018 at 1:35 pm #

    What is insurance but a tax on life – and thus a down payment on Death? But of course it makes sense to get it in a culture of death where an accident can destroy you because everything you need is so expensive.

    • tucsonspur September 14, 2018 at 6:04 pm #

      Variation on an insurance scam:

      “There was a very cautious man
      Who never laughed or played
      He never risked, he never tried,
      He never sang or prayed.
      And when he one day passed away,
      His insurance was denied,
      For since he never really lived,
      They claimed he never really died”.

  32. Luhrenloup September 14, 2018 at 2:02 pm #

    I was reminded when reading Jim’s essay of a book I once read. I have spent all morning trying to remember the book’s title, or the author’s name, and it just came back to me. Actually, it was the author’s editor that popped into my head, Max Perkins. From there it was easy to find “You Can’t Go Home Again” by Thomas Wolfe:

    “You can’t go back home to your family, back home to your childhood … back home to a young man’s dreams of glory and of fame … back home to places in the country, back home to the old forms and systems of things which once seemed everlasting but which are changing all the time – back home to the escapes of Time and Memory.”

    It’s an apt description of what possesses America of late. Unfortunately we can’t go back to a time of plenty, a time when we could easily bounce back from natural disasters. We cannot Make America Great Again, but with enough duct tape, cable ties and some plastic milk crates we ought to pull through.

    • Luhrenloup September 14, 2018 at 6:58 pm #

      What’s interesting about the book is that when the main character goes back home the townspeople are experiencing a financial bubble, there’s a crash and the inevitable bust. Plus ca change.

  33. My Point of View September 14, 2018 at 2:19 pm #

    Jim overlooked it. K-Dog mentioned it. That being the manure lagoons serving millions of hogs in the Carolinas and tidewater Virginia.

    Ya gotta love the meathead swine swindlers who flout pollution rules and call these reeking puddles of porcine poop “lagoons.” As if any minute now Brooke Shields will waddle out in her sequined mermaid costume to croon a siren song that lures innocent sailor boys to drown in pig pee.

    What a country.

    • capt spaulding September 14, 2018 at 2:37 pm #

      Turds bobbing gently in the waves.

      • RB September 14, 2018 at 2:51 pm #

        Is that sung to the tune of CHESTNUTS ROASTING ON AN OPEN FIRE? It is a beautiful line. Brought a tear.

        • capt spaulding September 14, 2018 at 4:00 pm #

          That’s a good one, RB.

        • malthuss September 14, 2018 at 4:42 pm #

          people want to believe that ultimately they will be treated fairly and justly.

          It is a sick form of projection.

  34. trypillian September 14, 2018 at 3:38 pm #

    James ought to have mentioned the proliferation of nuclear reactors within NC and SC. Near Wilmington, there are 2 vintage and brittle Fukashima style reactors on the shore only 20 ft above sea level. The media silence speaks volumes of the vulnerability of a potential disaster. Low and behold NC has 3 more reactors inland and SC has a grand total of 7. Inland plants are located near low elevation rivers in which record rainfall and flooding is in progress. If they are compromised somehow or other, the ticky tacky resortotopia will become uninhabitable. Cesium 137 and a full compliment of ionizing radiation working for you.

    • PeteAtomic September 14, 2018 at 5:53 pm #

      another 40+ inches of rain forecast on the way. Not lookin’ good.

    • CyberPass September 16, 2018 at 1:18 pm #

      Lagoons of radioactive stinking pig sh*t- now you have got my attention.

  35. Bill7 September 14, 2018 at 4:33 pm #

    A quite good article by Nafeez Ahmed:


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    • Exscotticus September 14, 2018 at 4:53 pm #

      As usual, not a peep about population growth—that which drives all else.

      • beantownbill. September 14, 2018 at 6:32 pm #

        Right you are. But nature has its own ways to balance everything out. People would be smart to beware.

      • capt spaulding September 14, 2018 at 11:15 pm #

        You are absolutely right, Exscotticus.

  36. PeteAtomic September 14, 2018 at 5:53 pm #

    Just watched some video on the massive China/Russia military exercises being held in Siberia. Holy crap. If they ever decide to move west with that horde, I don’t think the Eurotrash would have enough guys to stop until maybe they got to Dublin.

    • RB September 14, 2018 at 6:25 pm #

      Not to worry. Exercises are feel good things. Generals and admirals get to strut and admire themselves. War is about logistics. There are never problems with that in exercises. In Desert Storm the allied forces were always on the verge of no fuel. The biggest issue was 5000 gallon tankers to move the stuff forward. It is also problematic when the other team is shooting back. Just not fair. Exercises can be very deceiving to decision makers. The last part is the men who do the fighting, maiming and dying are scared shitless on both sides. The honor and glory is well behind the lines where the instigators are safe. War isn’t just hell, it is bullshit!!!

      • PeteAtomic September 14, 2018 at 8:32 pm #

        “War isn’t just hell, it is bullshit!!!”


  37. http://smallbatchgarden.blogspot.com/

    Remember that guy? I thought of him and the home he made out of big tent a few years- maybe a decade of clustrfuck nation- ago. Looks like he made it.

  38. On the subject of Toxic waste (Hog farm CAFOs, etc)



    How about them earthen dams holding back them coal tailings. How many various piles of used motor oil, worse, in low places. All the asbestos from all the brake linings and microscopic rubber and plastic and aluminum. Barrels of hydrochloric acid, Fluorides, old radioactive dental equipment, lead and mercury amalgams from the teeth of civil war corpses in so many little village graveyards.

    It all washes out… dead animals, pets, foam insulation chunks, miracle mattresses, political yard signs…..

    • beantownbill. September 14, 2018 at 6:47 pm #

      Geez, you’re thinking of everything. I don’t think it matters once you get to the radioactive dental equipment – people’ll be long dead or deathly ill by then. But now that I think about it, you forgot about all the bacteria from the pig lagoons – you know, the Creature From the Black Lagoon.

    • elysianfield September 14, 2018 at 8:38 pm #

      “It all washes out… dead animals, pets, foam insulation chunks, miracle mattresses, political yard signs…..”

      Yes, but I can’t see it from my house….

      • GreenAlba September 15, 2018 at 11:14 am #

        Doesn’t matter, EF – some of it’s in your dinner 🙂 .

        • elysianfield September 15, 2018 at 11:19 am #

          ” some of it’s in your dinner ”

          Well, I’ve been eating it all my life and I ain’t dead yet….

          • GreenAlba September 15, 2018 at 12:14 pm #

            Me neither, yet.

            Dust to dust, nanoplastics to nanoplastics?

  39. FincaInTheMountains September 14, 2018 at 6:30 pm #

    The Rhymes of History

    As Mark Twain said, “History does not repeat itself, it rhymes”, and today the History or the one who writes it, having spat on the desire of the winners to write history for it, offered humanity, the United States and Russia several rhymes to choose from, and on this choice depends the future of Russia and the United States and all of humanity.

    If you use the analogy with the ocean, than there are storms, sometimes horrific, but still these storms are ripples on the water, and there are ocean currents that exist for thousands of years and if the Gulf Stream changes its course, then Western Europe and Scandinavia will freeze solid and comes a new ice age, which will also last thousands of years.

    And in the previous post I wrote about the fact that in the US there is a struggle between world projects, on which the fate of mankind depends and not only of the people in the United States, and this struggle is an ocean current, and Kerry‘s talks with Iran for example, which I did not consider necessary to mention , and the publication of the saboteur manifesto in the New York Times, which I mentioned, but in passing only as an example of a relatively minor event, is certainly a storm, but also a ripple on the water too.

    And the ocean current is determined by the outcome of the battle of the world projects, and the outcome of the battle of the world projects is determined by what event in the past we will rhyme what is happening now.

    And indeed the saboteurs’ letter to the New York Times is a ripple on the surface of the water, and the current is that all Trump actions occur in exactly the right order, and no storm can distract him from the main thing: not to let Hillary Clinton take control of the very red button she gave to Lavrov, with a slight movement of her semantic fingers, turning Obama’s reset into Clinton’s overload.


    And this main thing is carried out in full accordance with the plan, which the Democrats for lack of brains published themselves, overhearing the conversation of the head of the congressional committee for intelligence Devin Nunes with the sponsors of the Republican Party:

    1. Judge Kavanaugh is first appointed to be a Justice of the Supreme Court, and this makes it pointless to subpoena Trump for interrogation, which is an attempt to lure him into a perjury trap and which he will immediately bring to the US Supreme Court, where, with God’s help, Kavanaugh will be sitting.

    2. Then Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein, supervising the investigation of Mueller, is impeached by the Republican Congress for refusing to provide Congress with documents related to the unlawful initiation of the investigation that became the Mueller Commission.
    3. Trump fires Attorney General Sessions who refuses to wrest control of the DOJ from the Clintonoids and appoints a person who will turn the Mueller commission into an investigation into the cooperation of Hillary Clinton with Russian oligarchs in fabricating false evidence of the need to investigate the links between the Russian government and the election campaign of Donald Trump.

    And what rhymes today with the past is that simultaneously with the coercion now of Manafort to cooperate with the Mueller Commission and the technogenic disaster in Massachusetts, the coast of the United States has just been hit by Florence, the largest hurricane in the history of hurricanes.

    And higher forces are inviting us to choose what this hurricane will rhyme with – Hurricane Sandy, which did not let Hillary Clinton’s protégé Mitt Romney to the White House, or with Hurricane Katrina, which deprived President Bush of the opportunity to throw Bastinda’s flying monkeys out from the White House and prevent them from preparing the Georgian war of 08.08 .08

  40. janet September 14, 2018 at 7:06 pm #

    Lot of lamentation among the Trump staff. Paul Manafort has flipped. President Trump’s former campaign chairman pleaded guilty today to two criminal charges — conspiring to defraud the United States and conspiring to obstruct justice — and agreed to cooperate with Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation.

    Manafort is the fifth member of the Trump campaign’s many law breakers to plead guilty to criminal charges. The cooperation agreement includes interviews and briefings, turning over documents, and testifying in other proceedings. Manafort also waived the right to have his lawyers present during interviews.

    The deal spares Manafort of a second criminal trial — he was convicted of eight charges in the first trial last month. It also means when Trump hired him to run his presidential campaign, Manafort was committing felony crimes like money laundering.

    There will be wailing and lamentation emanating from the Trump White House, as well as lamentable tweets. Poor little billionaire Donny is the victim of the big bad deep state.

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    • Exscotticus September 14, 2018 at 8:51 pm #

      Whoa! Game changer! So the guy whose credibility is totally shot after he first pleaded innocent, was convicted, and has now pleaded guilty to avoid more jail time, is going to tell us what really happened? The guy whom Trump fired from his campaign because…

      The family was particularly troubled by reports of Manafort’s involvement with Russia and felt he hadn’t been entirely forthright about his activities overseas, the source said. Family members were also unhappy about changes made to the GOP platform that were seen as beneficial to Russia, which they felt Manafort played a role in, the source added.

      That guy?

      Liberals can you please make up your mind? One minute you’re telling us he’s lying scum. Now he’s a bastion of truth. Show us the emails from Trump directing him to collude or we’re not interested.

      I laugh watching you pour your hopes and dreams into this. Keep building that sandcastle of evidence! The tide will wash it away in 52 days.

    • My Point of View September 14, 2018 at 9:52 pm #

      With Manafort flipping like a gymnast I’m expecting the mother of all tweet storms. All. Weekend. Long.

      The tweets will have all the usual memes: fake news, crooked Hillary, witch hunt, me me me, weak A.G., Obama the Kenyan, me me me, Mexicans, Russia good, Wall, me me me, Deep State, shut down the government, me me me, Benghazi, winning winning, no collusion, me me me.

      • Exscotticus September 14, 2018 at 11:33 pm #

        You forgot: me me me.

        Is the news not fake? Is Hillary not crooked? Is America not being invaded by illegal aliens? Was the FBI/DoJ deep state not colluding against Trump for Hillary? Did Hillary/Obama not ignore cries for help from Benghazi? Did Hillary/Obama not push the false narrative of a hurtful anti-Islamist film as the cause?

        No one elected Trump for his savoir-faire. We already had a poet-president. His name was Obama and he sucked. Now we have a guy that at least understands two fundamental concepts: that America is his priority, and that America belongs to Americans. That’s good enough for me.

        • Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 2:13 pm #

          Talk show host Joe Pags just made a good point: Obama had a very strange, broken cadence to his speeches, one that bespoke of high emotion and earnestness. It’s not the White Upperclass speech that he grew up with. And it’s not Black American either, nor his usual cadence. Pags thinks he was taught it somewhere by someone.

          He does have a couple of poems. One seems to be about being sexually abused by an older male friend he calls “Pop”.

  41. 100th Avatar September 14, 2018 at 7:42 pm #

    “The one salutary effect of Hurricane Florence may be that news of the after-effects will supersede the incoherent manufactured political blather welling up around the coming midterm elections — especially if the financial damage is powerful enough to disturb the debt-fueled occult economic “boom” attributed to the magic powers of our deal-wielding POTUS.”

    Like NY voting forward a corrupt dago from a dynasty of crooked politicians over a two-bit actress best known as the the small-part ugly friend in a cable TV show from the early oughts about casual sex.

    “If a man knows not which port he sails, no wind is favorable” L.A. Seneca

    Ship of fools

  42. janet September 14, 2018 at 9:11 pm #

    “I laugh watching you pour your hopes and dreams into this…” –exscotticus

    Your laughter makes me happy! Thank you your concern about hopes and dreams… and for sharing this kumbaya moment…

    • bukowskisghost September 14, 2018 at 11:29 pm #

      Ol Jim has been a waitin for the new south to die for at least twenty some years. In fact , he keeps awaitin for the whole dang thing to implode. I’m tired of Yankees fixing for us to die.

      • malthuss September 15, 2018 at 11:59 am #

        What about TripTicket, your southern immigrant who couldnt take the Black crime wave in Macon?
        Remember him?

        • K-Dog September 15, 2018 at 2:10 pm #

          I hope Trip is doing well. I hope he shows up someday to tell us what his thoughts of doom have evolved into. Trip never talked about blacks and you are just putting that out there. Trip had dignity and he would not have allowed himself to roll in the gutter, or did he need to. Trip was into permaculture.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 2:16 pm #

            Yeah he did cuz I made him. In the end he admitted I was right about race being very, very important. He never admitted Black inferiority, but he admitted they stuck together and that he had to stick with his own kind too – just like robins stick with robins and Chinee with Chinee.

          • K-Dog September 15, 2018 at 2:38 pm #

            The lies put out through the identities should be against the rules. But since ‘there is a war on‘ I suppose anything goes.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 3:12 pm #

            In other words, you want to force association – making the Bill of Rights meaningless. What next? Forcing robins to make with crows? That’s how Orcs were created….

          • malthuss September 15, 2018 at 6:18 pm #

            He mentioned, check for yourself, among other things;

            A Black woman pissing in the street or on sidewalk,
            A pit bull on his property he shot and killed,
            A break in or series of break ins to his car;

            In general, an unlivable place due to Macons undertow, so there.

          • Q. Shtik September 15, 2018 at 9:32 pm #

            Trip never talked about blacks and you are just putting that out there. – Dog


            I would say that Tripp never deliberately denigrated black people in the sense of being an inferior race but I do remember him describing a ‘final straw’ moment. He had acquired for a song a home (bought or leased? I forget) in a black area of some infamously black town in Georgia. (He was originally from Georgia, now returning from the upper northwest (Seattle, perhaps) where he held an engineering job in High Tech.) He seemed to be thinking to himself, ‘we’re all humans, how bad could it be?’

            He was walking with his daughter in the neighborhood one day when a black woman stopped and hoisted her dress and took a shit right there. I forget if she shit right on the sidewalk or stepped off the sidewalk on to a lawn but it was what you would describe as ‘taking a shit in front of God and everybody.’ In this case it was in front of him and his young daughter. He moved from there and wound up eventually in a big tent on some Georgia mountainside trying to make a go of his penchant for permaculture.

  43. janet September 15, 2018 at 12:05 am #

    “Show us the emails from Trump directing him to collude or we’re not interested.”


    Which email trail do you want to follow for proof of Trump-Russia?Michael Flynn? Paul Manafort? Jared Kushner? Carter Page? Roger Stone? Jeff Sessions? JD Gordon? Donald Trump Jr.? Michael Cohen? Michael Caputo? Erik Prince? Rex Tillerson? Wilbur Ross? Betsy DeVos? Felix Sater? Aras & Emin Agalarov? Alfa Bank? Vitaly Churkin?

    Now, with Manafort on board, Mueller and the Virginia AG’s and New York AG’s will be able to document more than the 400 crimes Trump has committed. It’s gonna be an avalanche of evidence that will make Hillary Clinton’s emails look like small potatoes.

  44. Joe Thomas September 15, 2018 at 1:45 am #

    It is a hurricane, We have had many hurricanes before. Building in coastal flood plains (or any flood plain) is stupid unless you are prepared for the potential losses. Houses are not built in the way they were in the 19th century (most were hovels unless you had money). Hurricanes care not for your politics, ergo about three fourths of the above comments are useless. The Yankee’s that have ruined most of the Carolina’s need to go home to the heaven that they left ( I’m a reluctant yankee in Ohio). If you are so politically oriented that every occurrence has a spin I truly do feel sorry for you. I was always told to beware of people who took the weather personally.

  45. baroto September 15, 2018 at 2:02 am #

    The Climate always changes.

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    • elysianfield September 15, 2018 at 11:23 am #

      Yes is does, and as Dylan opined…”A hard rain’s gonna fall…”

      But sometimes not.


      • elysianfield September 15, 2018 at 11:23 am #

        Yes, IT does….

    • Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 2:17 pm #

      Climate is what you expect and weather is what you get. Expectations change….

      But long term weather patterns do too.

      • Exscotticus September 15, 2018 at 3:39 pm #

        A weather report is what you expect and fake news is what you get.

  46. FincaInTheMountains September 15, 2018 at 6:14 am #

    The Weird Scripal Poisoning Case

    The GRU, acting on the direct orders of Putin, sends two gay agents to kill an elderly, untrustworthy, traitorous lieutenant-colonel, making living off small geshefts with various intelligence services, his daughter, his cats and his hamsters,

    Agents of unconventional sexual orientation, absolutely without any cover story, with passports whose numbers differ by one figure, fly to London directly from Moscow (where they then fly back), strictly at the same time pass through the inspection, settle in the same room of the most outrageous dosshouse hotel, sleep in the same bed,

    In order to whack Skrypal they twice under all the CCTV cameras ride a 120-kilometer train “to look at the Salisbury Cathedral “, carrying with them a terrible nerve-gas agent capable of killing 4,000 people in an unsealed fragrance bottle,

    Having seized the moment, they clumsily smear the handle of the Skrypal’s house with poison, and then they try to buy old coins (obviously, as a thank-you gift to the general who ordered the trip)

    Then agents-gays completely carelessly throw out the fragrance bottle with the unspent nerve-gas agent without remembering where, in a few months, it is found by a half-bum, which under the guise of fragrance gives it to his girlfriend and they in unison poison themselves, but the half-bum, by a strange coincidence, survives,

    The Scipal’s, daughter and one cat (who escaped due to spiritual trauma) survive the poisoning with a substance capable of killing a whole regiment, another cat and hamsters die the death of the brave for the glory of Britain purely because of a fuckup of the local police.

    Scipal, however, does not blame Russia, his daughter wants to return to her homeland, where they are now and what they do is unclear,

    Britain accuses Russia of everything, but refuses to send any official request, arguing that “Mordor will not give up anyone,” and referring to the testimony of some agent-defector “Apollo”,

    However, Vladimir Putin personally finds unlucky gay agents who, at his “request”, are on Simonyan RT and shpeel a complete nonsense, further confusing the matter: people stubbornly refuse to believe that GRU employs such losers and they begin to think that all this is Putin’s monstrously cunning operation with the aim of occupying Britain.

    I agree that the suspects look unconvincing. But it does not matter.

    For lawyers, it is important that their appearance in public radically changed the situation in the criminal process. Now the English have the right and the DUTY to interrogate them. Otherwise, the Britons can neither close the case, nor transfer it to court. The treaty on mutual legal assistance between Britain and Russia allows this to be done, as it was with Lugovoi.

    But, the request must contain the materials of the London case. Moreover, in Russia there is also a criminal case in connection with the attempt on the Russian citizen Julia Skripal. Therefore, based on the principle of reciprocity, Russia will require in exchange the right to interrogate Sergei and Julia Skripal, which Russia has been illegally denied for six months already.

    Thus further investigation, if Scotland Yard wishes to continue it, will be placed fully under the control and supervision of the Russian Federation Investigative Committee.

    • FincaInTheMountains September 15, 2018 at 6:43 am #

      Of course, the usual explanation of all that from the point of view of such commentators as Dmitry Orlov and some posters here on the CFN blog would be a complete idiocy and incompetence of the British special services trying to arrange a provocation with the aim of further deteriorating relationship between UK and Russia (perhaps for the purpose of justifying increase in military spending).

      But let me offer a different explanation based on the Colored Projects theory:

      There are obviously at least two teams at work here in England – let’s call them the Black Team and the White Team.

      The Black team is doing its best to increase the tensions between Russia and UK, and the White Team is tirelessly working to ease the tensions by the method of making a laughing stock of the efforts of the Black Team.

      The Black Team = group around Theresa May and the City of London, pro-EU, anti-Brexit

      The White Team = group associated with the British Monarchy, anti-EU, pro-Brexit.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 2:19 pm #

      One Israeli agent in Europe was caught because he was saving his receipts in order to be refunded. How Jewish is that?

  47. force September 15, 2018 at 7:17 am #

    This how the amerikan empire dies;blow after blow; failing foreign policy ,crumbling domestic infrastructure battered by increasingly severe & frequent storms & droughts.All the while the racial & political divides widen and the designated corporate/war whore puppet in charge, be they white,brown,orange or two-tone grey mouths empty platitudes & tries to keep the zombie carcass stumbling along for another few years.

    The gyre accelerates & increasing numbers of inmates of the Ponzi-gulag are sucked in & destroyed.No MAGA chanting or lib-tard hand wringing & Russia-blaming can change the course of this ship of fools,listing badly,waiting to sink into eternity’s impartial abyss.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 2:20 pm #

      Bryn Mawr?

  48. Chris at Fernglade Farm September 15, 2018 at 8:00 am #

    Dear Jim,

    Best wishes for the talk on Sunday. I for one would like to attend, but alas, it’s a long way away from here. 🙂

    Mate, I learned how to build houses (and now live in one that I built myself) by copying the old school Victorian era designs down here. I sort of figured they lasted at least a century – often with poor maintenance – so the builders must have known something. And I have first hand experience at repairing their faults so I have a good idea where they went wrong.

    Nowadays, I see houses with polystyrene cladding. WTF! It is nice that render is applied over the polystyrene, but I really do wonder about the longevity of the materials used given that impacts may damage the render. And I really hope a fire never gets into the timber walls that the polystyrene cladding is attached too. I dunno…

    And then I’ve also seen some newer houses where some walls used timber stud spacings of about two foot, when the old timers religiously stuck to a foot and a half (450mm in proper language).

    Maybe I’m just guilty of over engineering things, but I have heard anecdotal reports of the lifespan of some newer buildings and the numbers don’t make me feel comfortable at all.

    Anyway, best wishes for the talk.

    I paid my house insurance policy the other day. A 21% increase in one year. And they tell me that inflation is low…


    • beantownbill. September 15, 2018 at 12:16 pm #

      Newer construction up here (Boston, Mass area) is pathetic. The condominium I live in was built with what we call drywall sheathing. I don’t know how that compares to polystyrene, but it is not water resistant, but water absorbing. Not smart to build like that, but definitely cheaper than plywood.

      Our condo was also built with studs spaced 24” apart. That also saves developers a lot of money. One wall in our living room, which we exposed at one time, had studs placed side-by-side. While it makes for a solid wall, it isn’t bright when you are trying to minimize construction costs.

      We had flashing that was installed upside-down, heat pumps that had air-conditioning wiring installed to connect with the heat, so, in the summer, when the a/c was turned on, the temperature went up, decks that weren’t completely attached to the building, and many other weird construction errors.

      I should note that all the flaws were eventually discovered by the homeowners and gradually repaired, but at great cost. Now we have buildings in excellent condition.

      In several parts of Boston and in its suburbs, many old Victorians are still standing. They were mostly built between 1890 and 1920 and are very solid. We think we are so advanced, what with new construction materials and computer apps, but putting up a new house in 10 days just doesn’t cut it.

      • 100th Avatar September 15, 2018 at 3:24 pm #

        The problem is that your condo was contracted to a subcontractor to a framing crew to a roofing crew to a hvac crew with workers that were blowing leaves or filling chipotle bowls the day before last. Craftsmanship is dead.

        • beantownbill. September 15, 2018 at 5:05 pm #

          I was told the original construction was done by Mexican farmers bused in for very cheap labor. This was 30 years ago.

  49. FincaInTheMountains September 15, 2018 at 9:43 am #

    NPR Politics: Paul Manafort’s cooperation agreement with the special counsel does not include matters involving the Trump campaign, according to a person familiar with the case.


    So, who’s flippin’? Looks like Mueller himself decided to flip and start investigating Hillary’s Flying Monkey collusion with Russian Oligarchs to smear Trump!

  50. MontanaMan September 15, 2018 at 11:03 am #

    (I am not, not a Southerner. Born and raised here in Montana. 4th Generation. But, I know the Southern States very, Very well. From the first permanent village in Florida to The latest expansion of the Mobile Alabama Docks by Exxon due to there massive hiring boom.

    45 thousand full time high paying blue
    Collar jobs for there leviathan size LNG LPG Export facilities. In Mobile Al, Lake Charles, and Port Arthur Texas. I am a historical addict. By far. And I am without a doubt a voracious reader and a research addict. God how I love research. )

    I take umbrage with your entire, “sneering looking down on them, I’m better than them and better than you arrogant attitude drivel,”

    Furthermore you don’t have a clue, not a clue what you are talking about. Case in point.

    “Caliche/Hard Pan.” Are one and the same.

    “agriculture. A lot of the landscape was farmed so ruinously for two hundred years that the soil has turned into a kind of natural cement, called hardpan or Caliche. “


    (Jim, you are much better than this horse shit. Leave lying to the extreme far left Propaganda News Outlets and there Braindead Brain Washed village idiots. Like you see on CNN. MSNBC, etc. PLEASE PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH ON SUBJECTS That you know nothing about. )

    200 past years of farming in our GLORIOUS SOUTHERN STATES” did not turn the soil into “Hardpan/Caliche.” FLAT OUT LIE.” But lying is what generational Yankees win gold and silver in. And among many other things no one born 1 degree below the “Mason&Dixon line will ever come close to winning.

    Before I give you actual “geological facts,” pertaining to hard Pam and Caliche, I now turn to your own people that flee and have fled, fled those oh so precious uppity arrogant snot nose Blue Belly Yankee States.”

    Your own people Jim are the ones that flocked to the coastal areas of NC/SC called the Low Country bike generational coast-wise Southerners. The largest explosion in population has come directly from Yankees. Why? Simple.

    Because that Oh so precious blue state they lived in, worked in all there lives toiling away scratching out a life and a living just like the rest of us do regardless of what state you live in would have tax them right out of existence in retirement. From property tax to food gas etc etc.

    (I grew up in a hard working hard scrabble Oil&Gas family that scratched out it’s living. My has been poking holes in the ground for 90 years. It took a long long time before we could say something like,
    “That’s it. We have now officially arrived.” We are no longer equipment rich and cash flow poor, to be able to say we are now cash flow wealthy, big time strong balance sheet, and offices in ND MT WY CO & Northern Utah. )


    They know it and you know it to Jim. It is your people Jim. Your people that are the biggest block of retirees that fled NEW YORK STATE NEW JERSEY CONNECTICUT DELAWARE MAINE ILLEGAL MASSACHUSETTS RHODE ISLAND.

    And like a sky filled out here in North Dakota with Canadian Geese like me and Chad
    Weckerly sat in our pickups out on a part of the https://www.weckerlyfarms.com/ and watched.

    (All 34,688 continuous acreage the family owns. Plus a 8 state running grain and anhydrous ammonia hauling business. )

    This born & raised Montana Man Oil&Gas Nan knows the entire, entire coastal area of NC SC & GA so very well. Let’s just say that my family Jet and I get around.

    (I grew up in a hard working hard scrabble Oil&Gas family that has been poking holes in the ground for 90 years. It took a long long time before we could say something like,
    “That’s it. We have now officially arrived.” We are no longer equipment rich and cash flow poor, to be able to say we are now cash flow wealthy, big time strong balance sheet, and offices in ND MT WY CO & Northern Utah. )

    Turning now to your “playing fast and loose=flat out lie” about hardpan & Caliche.

    Caliche, geology teaches us that Caliche” is a shallow layer of soil or sediment in which the particles have been cemented together by the precipitation of mineral matter in their interstitial spaces. The cement is usually calcium carbonate; however, cements of magnesium carbonate, gypsum, silica, iron oxide, and a combination of these materials are known.

    “Furthermore Caliche is millions of years old.”

    “The name “caliche” originates from a Spanish word for porous materials that have been cemented by calcium carbonate.

    The name is used to refer to a piece of the material or the layer from which it was broken, or the cement itself that binds the materials together. Caliche is known by many other names, the more common of which are”

    “calcrete, hardpan, duricrust, and calcic soil.”

    “Caliche is also a colloquial term that has many different uses among miners in Spanish speaking countries.”

    “Calcic horizons form by the gradual precipitation of calcium carbonate(CaCO3) and, to a lesser extent, magnesium carbonate (MgCO3) within the B horizon of a soil and follow several well-documented stages of development ranging from I to VI. “

    “Stage I calcic soil horizons consist of partial carbonate coatings over the bottoms of gravel particles in the B horizons of coarse grained soils and thin carbonate filaments in the B horizons of fine grained soils. “

    “By stage III, carbonate is continuous throughout the zone of accumulation, and the zone of carbonate accumulation is known as the K horizon. Stages IV through VI are characterized be complete carbonate cementation of the former soil and, ultimately, brecciation. “

    “These most highly developed calcic horizons are sometimes referred to as petrocalcic because of their rock-like nature, and often form cap rocks atop bluffs and escarpments in arid to semi-arid regions such as the southwestern United States.”

    Let’s turn now to the other lie. Hardpan and past farming by Southern Farmers is what caused it. LIE.

    For the geography term, a dry terminus of an internally drained basin in a dry climate (i.e. salt flat/playa), see Dry lake.
    In soil science, agriculture and gardening, Hardpanor Ouklip is a dense layer of soil, usually found below the uppermost topsoil layer.[1] There are different types of hardpan, all sharing the general characteristic of being a distinct soil layer that is largely impervious to water. Some hardpans are formed by deposits in the soil that fuse and bind the soil particles. These deposits can range from dissolved silica to matrices formed from iron oxidesand calcium carbonate. Others are man-made, such as hardpan formed by compaction from repeated plowing, particularly with moldboard plows, or by heavy traffic or pollution.

    But farming is not what made the soil and the density. It was already there. Nor did past or present farming out the iron oxides in the soil.

    Furthermore what you are referring to, hardpan, is no longer a problem what so ever. Because of technology. You really should do some research about topics/subjects that are know-wheres close to your wheelhouse. I do enjoy reading your articles but when you are dead wrong I will jump in boots first.


    “Hardpan was more of a problem from around the 1930s to about the early 1970s. It was never really much of a problem with large open air field farming. When compared to gardening on a small to large scale. “

    “Simply because of impeding drainage of water and restricting the growth of plant roots. In these situations, the hardpan can be broken up by either mechanical means such as digging or plowing, or through the use of soil amendments and chemicals.

    “Starting in 1975 Monsanto Chemicals started experimenting with certain chemicals that led to the creation of “Triple 13” soil softening and reduction. No different than constipation. “

    the makeup of them are well protected to this day, on a 800 acre farm in what farmers called,

    “Hardpan Alley,” in the “Black Belt” area of Alabama. Outside of Prattville Alabama on the J.G. Whitfield Cotton & Soybean Farm that is descended from the behemoth original family owned Whitfield Manor Plantation. “

    The family still owns the farm and farms it to this day. But only 47,889 broken up acres. Severely broken up. Because of population growth, development that you do write about very well. I’ve read nearly all your books.

    “The Black Belt is a region of the Southern United States. The term originally described the prairies and dark fertile soil of central Alabama and northeast Mississippi.”

    “ Because this area in the 19th century was historically developed for cotton plantations based on enslaved African-American labor, the term became associated with these conditions.”

    “It was generally applied to a much larger agricultural region in the Southern US characterized by a history of cotton plantation agriculture in the 19th century and a high percentage of African Americans outside metropolitan areas. The slaves were freed after the American Civil War, and many continued to work in agriculture afterward.”

    “The broadfork is a manual tool specifically designed for this task; a digging forkor a spade might also be used. The chisel plow does a similar job with the help of a tractor.”

    “The use of soil amendments can also be employed to alter the soil structure and promote the dissolution of the hard pan.”

    “ It has been observed that increasing the amount of soil organic matter through the working-in of manure, compost or peat can both improve local drainage and promote the proliferation of earth worms that can, over time, break relatively thin hardpan layers.”

    “More difficult hardpans may be further improved through the action of both adjusting the soil pH with lime if the soil is acidic, and with the addition of gypsum, and with the addition of Monsanto triple 13-H44B64. “

    “This combination can help loosen clay particles bound into a hardpan by the actions of hard salts such as iron, calcium carbonate and sodium, by promoting their mobility through a higher pH while proving a suitable source of exchanging minerals (the gypsum)”.

    “This works because gypsum salts, although not “soft”, are still water permeable and have a larger, more open structure, the results of which do not promote as hard a matrix as was replaced.”

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    • elysianfield September 15, 2018 at 11:29 am #

      Jesus, what woke you up?

    • beantownbill. September 15, 2018 at 12:34 pm #

      All lies are untruths, but all untruths are not lies. What do you know about JHK that we all don’t that makes you assume he is lying?

    • “Hardpan and past farming by Southern Farmers is what caused it. LIE.”

      You didn’t make a case for this. You only made a case that Hardpan existed, and now continuous efforts must be used to create a growing medium of organic material. Which is great, it solves the problem.

      But the question IS: Did southern farming cause it?

      It came to my attention not too long ago that during the era and before the civil war, the subject of the Southerner’s absolute devastating soil conservation practices was a constant theme in the society, the media, and in the halls of Congress.

      Northerners specifically lambasted the state of affairs of southern agriculture, specifically in reference to its practices like monocultures and harvests of various food and fiber. Every aspect of southern agriculture was inferior to northern conservation.

      So maybe there is some truth that southern agriculture destroyed soil organic material on top of the hardpan.

      Its debatable whether or not something like sugarcane was profitable or not. The fact was it was all slave labor didn’t even help. They quickly found themselves in debt, selling and oversupplied commodity. Cotton fared better, still Cotton depleted the soil. When the boll weevil came it was all over. The South emptied out faster than a bucket.

  51. FincaInTheMountains September 15, 2018 at 11:37 am #

    The Last of the Mohicans

    So, why did Einstein annoy the mighty of this world and their scientific lackeys?

    I have one theory of political dimension, but I do not want to tell it yet, because it still needs to be considered in the context of Einstein’s scientific merit. And in order to realize these merits, it is necessary to go back four hundred years and possibly even earlier.

    It all began with the so-called conflict of “science and the church”.

    Quotation marks in the last phrase due to the fact that the parties to the conflict were not what they were called. Science was represented in this conflict by some esoteric communities, or simply by Masonic lodges, which really patronized scientists, and some of them, even cut frogs themselves and sent electric current through frog legs.

    All in order to find confirmation that they already knew for a long time that there is no god or that he has died and will never rise again. I even can directly hear how not the last one of them speaks to me in response to my questions:

    No, this is too much, the discussion of such topics goes beyond the scope of scientific discussions with profane. There is no god, and never was. And there is an eternal self-organizing Matter, the highest form of which is the protein bodies and higher nervous activity of these higher protein bodies, which is an electric current running along the nerves-wires.

    In this case, of course, there are individuals in whom these wires are laid especially well, but there are defective individuals who invent their own God, conscience and other morals to compensate for their not very successful electrical wiring and disguise their inability to withstand the individuals with the correct wiring in the war of all against all, which is life!

    Well, and the church was mostly represented by Catholics and Protestants, about whom I do not want to say anything bad, but I draw your attention to the obvious fact that from the point of view of an Orthodox Christian, Catholic and Protestant communities can not be called the Church in the Orthodox sense of the word. A-priory.

    At that time, later turned out to be the time of the preparation of the Great American Revolution (GAR) and the Great French Revolution (GFR), the so-called encyclopaedists became aware that a certain Antoine Lavoisier formulated the law of conservation of matter (mass). He heated various substances in a closed flask, thus showing that the increase in the weight of oxides is due to the absorption of oxygen from the air, and not to the mysterious effect of the elements of fire, which was called caloric

    “Here is the joy! Hurray three times! Here it is Matter of the Eternal!

    It later turned out that this effect was discovered and described by a certain Russian – Lomonosov, but “these Russians always poke their nose with their priority – Russia is the land of the bears!”.

    At the same time, it should be remembered that, as is known, the GFR, like the GAR, was not only an anti-feudal revolution, but also an anti-Catholic revolution, that in the conditions of France, where the Huguenots were enemies of the traditional Catholic masses, the revolution was primarily atheistic, and the preparation to it was conducted by encyclopaedists.

    It consisted, in particular, in the use of science, which was highly respected by the energetic Protestant bourgeoisie, for debunking the basic Catholic dogmas. The main object of these attacks was, of course, Genesis, theoretically common for all Abrahamic religions. At the same time, we must not forget that within the framework of Catholicism, a departure from the Abrahamic Genesis turned into an occasion for the persecution and genocide of an entire people during the Albigensian Crusade.

    Especially fierce attacks was subjected the assertion of the creation of all things, including matter, by One Creator. And, essentially, from nothing – ex nihilo.

    This was undoubtedly due to the fact that the aforementioned encyclopaedists were intellectual and spiritual heirs of the Albigensians, who considered matter to be the creation of an alternative deity, and who created it not out of nothing but from himself.

    That is why the matter in certain circles became the euphemism of this alternative deity, popularly known as Lucifer by the Great Russian poets Gumilev and Blok, who used to hang out in those lodges.

    It must be said that this not only gave a materialistic science some kind of sacredness in the eyes of very influential and ambitious political forces, but also ensured the attention of its political competitors to it. The Catholic Church, for example, certainly denied the contradiction between the Genesis and achievements of science, but as far as it could it ruined the life of individual scientists.

    But, since Catholic Church authority was undermined by its attempts to replace with itself the state in the Middle Ages, it was unable to formulate an adequate response to the challenges of the time. On the other hand, after the fall of Constantinople, the Orthodox Church was in such a deep intellectual crisis that it is simply not possible to talk about its participation in these discussions.

    Although Lomonosov, surprising Euler himself, very accurately applied philosophical apparatus to the problem of the caloric, in particular the “razor of William of Occam,” allows us to say that it was this work, which formulated the law of conservation of the masses, paradoxically was the first answer of the Orthodox science of the new time to the questions posed by the Gnostics.

    All these circumstances predetermined the development of science as an anti-clerical force, although the scientists themselves were often very religious people. Any scientific discoveries that could be interpreted in the anti-Abrahamic sense were enthusiastically met by esoteric communities and received solid financial support within the so-called charity.

    Nevertheless, science developed according to its own laws and, after Euler, Lagrange, and Maupertuis presented the mathematical formulation of the law of conservation of energy, momentum – linear and angular, it became clear that these laws are a consequence of the so-called “symmetry” of space and time with respect to infinitesimal transformations of the coordinate system. That is, the laws of physics are expressed by mathematical formulas that should not depend on transferring the origin of the coordinate system to another point of space and time or from turning the axes by some angle, since all points and directions are equivalent.

    And the process of establishing a coordinate system is necessary for people, as a mental way to give names to space and time locations and express the laws of physics with the help of mathematics.

    (to be continued)

  52. malthuss September 15, 2018 at 12:04 pm #


    This film has a savior of mankind. She is a Black female.
    The film also has a lot of ‘xenophobia is bad, Whites are evil’
    type shyte.

    Children of Men (2006)

    This modern masterpiece from Mexican filmmaker Alfonso Cuarón looks ahead to the Britain of 2027 – apparently the last surviving nation state in a world thrown into chaos by the sudden unexplained infertility of (it is thought) all females.

    As the film begins, we are told that not a single child has been born in 18 years, with the origin of the genetic defect unknown. This troubling and realistically presented imagining depicts the future Britain as a police state ruled by fear, where illegal immigrants are sent to a grimy refugee camp (in Bexhill-on-Sea of all places) and armed revolutionary groups stalk the countryside.

    • beantownbill. September 15, 2018 at 12:42 pm #

      And what does your comment have to do with this weekend’s subject matter?

      My suggestion is to ask Janos here whether he’d be willing to give you his email address, and if Janos is so willing, ask him to email JHK to give him permission to email Janos’ address to you.

      Just think, you and Janos could then communicate privately and hold long racist discussions at will.

      • Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 2:25 pm #

        Race concerns all of us. And the slander of Whites is a very important public issue. If you disagree, explain your disagreement. And if you disagree that Whites are being slandered, explain the hiring of Sarah Jeong by the New York Times.

        • beantownbill. September 15, 2018 at 3:22 pm #

          To you, race is almost all there iis (except for Jews, of course). But not to me. Or for many others. All I said was Malthuss’ bringing up what he did had no bearing on this weekend’s JHK post. Why not bring up the art of growing cabbage? It’s just as relevant to the current CFN discussion. Distraction is all I see.

          • malthuss September 15, 2018 at 6:24 pm #

            I meant to show brainwashing.
            And it exists.
            Look at commercials….the weak White men and the smart classy Blacks.

          • Q. Shtik September 15, 2018 at 10:10 pm #

            Why not bring up the art of growing cabbage? It’s just as relevant to the current CFN discussion. – beantown



            It was probably 5 or more years ago that JHK revamped his website, changed the font etc etc. Before that change the heading for Clusterfuck Nation mentioned that the topic was wide open to anything that anyone wanted to talk about. Jim, of course, had his favorite topics, the main ones being peak oil, strip malls,Happy Motoring, tattoos, and cheese doodles. But he never chastised anyone for going off topic. He suffered almost anything INCLUDING anti-semitism but he drew the line at someone being “scurrilous.” Only HE knew for sure what constituted scurrilousness. And, of course, there was ME correcting people’s spelling, grammar and usage. For some reason me playing ‘school marm’ bugs him no end. I have banned several times and received numerous emails from Jim telling me to knock it off, the most recent one about 2 weeks ago. Apparently it is OK to correct one’s self — something that Green Alba does frequently — but God forbid I should correct Green Alba or any other commenter.

            My point Bean is that there is no rule here that says we must all remain on the topic that Jim introduces each Monday and Friday. Generally we commenters stay on topic for a day or two and then it devolves into some of us getting on our own favorite hobby horses.

          • Q. Shtik September 15, 2018 at 10:18 pm #

            been banned

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2018 at 6:43 am #

            “Apparently it is OK to correct one’s self — something that Green Alba does frequently — but God forbid I should correct Green Alba or any other commenter.”

            My errors annoy me more than other people’s, Q. I prefer not to be rude and comment on other people’s grammar or spelling etc., except on the odd occasion when there is some good-natured humour to be had from it. Or if someone like yourself has specifically addressed a comment to me, on something like dyoo-al/dyoo-ration.

            But since we’re here and you’d like me to be as naughty as you, I’ll leave you with this:


            In the interests of pedagogy rather than pedantry, obviously 🙂 .

            Correcting one’s self would be an entirely deeper enterprise and one to which I should also apply myself. And my self…

        • Tate September 15, 2018 at 4:38 pm #

          Just look at the long list of leftist racial haters on Twitter with the coveted Blue Check Mark who talk about killing whites & want to see white people genocided. There is a watch list website for that but naturally because of the pervasive gas-lighting by Google, et al, I couldn’t immediately locate it through search.

          The blue check mark is not a sign of approbation by Twitter. It simply means that the identity of the holder has been verified. But the large number of such individuals who have no fear of revealing their identity indicates just how accepted it now is to call for violence & even genocide against whites.

          • malthuss September 15, 2018 at 6:41 pm #

            T Y

        • malthuss September 15, 2018 at 6:30 pm #

          My post was not about race but about brainwashing.
          That Whites are to feel so inferior.
          Its all thru the media and you know it.

          explain the hiring of Sarah Jeong by the New York Times.–that x a million plus.

          Perhaps to BB everything is about race.
          Today I gave directions [on the street] to a Black woman and a middle eastern man.
          I didnt have to take the time to do that.

      • malthuss September 15, 2018 at 6:23 pm #

        That Whites, Brits are being brainwashed
        That Whites are the Xenophobes.
        That Whites are holding back ‘progress.’
        Thats the story of the film.
        BRH regularly contrasts New England w Old New England.
        He charts the reality of the decline.
        the film shows EXACTLY the opposite.

        Get a life, you nasty man. You really are a nasty thing.

      • malthuss September 15, 2018 at 6:26 pm #

        You and BRH can have a drink, if he gets to beantown and is willing to put up with you.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 2:27 pm #

      Many of us love the movie because it shows Muslims behind barbed wire, being deported. And the action scenes are very well done.

      But yeah, the subtext is garbage – a Black Christ child or something.

      • GreenAlba September 15, 2018 at 4:05 pm #

        No, just a child. And therefore precious, in the context. There are other children, ‘offstage’, at the end. We aren’t told what colour they are. You can make them any colour you like in your mind.

        • Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 6:23 pm #

          So why a Black one then? Just coincidence? I think not. I don’t remember any other children. Was it made into a Play or a Play first?

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2018 at 6:54 am #

            “I think not”.

            You may think what you like. Most works of art allow you to do that.

            It was originally a novel by PD James, but the film director borrowed very little of the novel and created something different. You might like the novel better.

            The children’s voices were heard at the very end from the sanctuary where the woman was being taken with her baby in a boat. You’ll remember Clive Owen’s character got her on her way there but was fatally wounded and presumably died in the boat.

      • malthuss September 15, 2018 at 6:32 pm #

        I only watched the clip with the Black woman on the train and the hateful White Xenophobes. Gees, what utter propaganda.

        • Tate September 15, 2018 at 7:37 pm #

          Actors are almost as whorish as reporters. Very close.

  53. elysianfield September 15, 2018 at 12:21 pm #

    Well, ladies and germs,

    It has been announced that Elon Musk has sold ticket(s) for a round–the Moon trip on one of his Space-X rockets… a rocket soon to be developed, built and then deployed…rumor has it that the first ticket was sold to a Japanese citizen.

    A sizeable payment was rumored paid for the reservation.

    I am of the opinion that Musk is much more focused on plundering Uranus, rather than the Moon….


  54. FincaInTheMountains September 15, 2018 at 1:56 pm #

    The Last of the Mohicans p.2

    Looking back at these laws, a Christian could formulate the following:

    “Coordinates and mathematics are needed only for us sinners in order to express the laws of physics in the language of mathematics, and the All-knowing Lord already knows every point by its real, true name and to Him no mathematics is needed and He writes no formulas in establishing the laws of nature. ”

    Classical mechanics, which systematized the laws of physics discovered by Newton, was an internally consistent part of physics, but it is in an unsolvable contradiction with the electrodynamics created by Faraday and Maxwell, which states that electrical particles do not act directly on each other, but through an intermediate carrier called the electromagnetic field. Maxwell’s equations, describing in one and the same way the propagation of this electromagnetic field and the interaction of particles with it, showed unambiguously that the speed of propagation of electromagnetic waves does not depend on the coordinate system, which was perfectly coordinated with the principle of equality of all inertial reference systems, formulated by Galileo, moving relative to each other evenly and rectilinearly.

    But the scientists divided into two parties:

    Some thought that electromagnetic waves are vibrations of some filling space Ether and capable of being carried away by moving matter, which contradicted Galileo’s principle of the equality of inertial coordinate systems, since a preferential frame of reference can be associated with this Ether. Others argued that there is no Ether, but there is an electromagnetic field in the void and Maxwell’s equations need to be slightly corrected.

    And the whole scientific hell broke loose!

    What experiments were put together by Michelson, what theories about the imagined length and imagined duration came up with Lorentz and Poincaré! What brilliant mathematics, though a little wrong, was invented in order to shove the reality of Maxwell’s equations into a cozy, known since the time of Euclid, so-called “real” space and time!

    And then came the crazy Jew from Switzerland, who once distinguished himself by using the phenomenon of capillarity for the analysis of intermolecular forces and molecular dimensions, and, with the help of amateurishly simple arguments and school mathematics, literally using fingers on the palm of his hand, built the so-called Special Theory of Relativity (STR). The results of Lorentz and Poincaré from two interrelated postulates – the generalized Galileo principle and the constancy of the speed of light in any so-called inertial reference frames in which the body in the absence of the forces acting on it remain in a state of rest or uniform rectilinear motion.

    True, in this case, the objective, “real” space turned out to be imaginary, or rather mental, because not only the apparent length of the moving object change, but all observed lengths changed in this moving coordinate system, that is, the observable space itself changed, and the aforementioned “real” space became fundamentally unobservable.

    At the same time, from the point of view of the traditional scientific method created by the Emperor Justinian and Sir Isaac Newton, one of Einstein’s most important results was the restriction of the cognition of reality by scientific methods, since the Ether, whose existence Einstein did not deny, but showed that it was not needed for the construction of a physical theory, turned out not be an object of study by scientific methods.

    In fact, Einstein’s SRT was the ideal case for using “razor” of William’s from Occam, which radically contradicted Poincare’s approach, although he received the same mathematical results, but asserting that the Ether, albeit in principle we do not observe in the experiment, can be studied by scientific methods, since it is absolutely necessary for constructing the theory.

    This made Einstein’s STO a theory, primarily a philosophical one, as it raised the question of gnosis, that is, about the limits and methods of human cognition of reality, which from reality that was observed by scientific methods, turned into a Reality, which it is impossible to study using scientific methods.

    How amusing to read contemporary philosophers who talk about the eccentricities of Einstein, who used religious terminology to justify that intuitive leap from sensory experience to the axioms of the amazing number of fundamental theories he constructed, which he called the “Einstein Arc”. Meanwhile, without this leap of Einstein and the theories generated by him, it would be impossible for that tremendous rise of fundamental science in the twentieth century, which mysteriously stopped in the 1970s and has now been replaced by regression.

    They simply do not understand that what Einstein says about, describing his “Einstein arc,” is perhaps more important than the theories themselves.

    In addition, since the kinematics, that is, the method of describing the motion and the fundamental property of space can not depend on the moving object of consideration, in this case the electromagnetic field, the speed of light has turned out to be the speed of propagation of any interactions in an empty space of time, and not just an electromagnetic field.

    • K-Dog September 15, 2018 at 2:26 pm #

      The scientific discussion of consciousness always devolves into an argument from authority as there is no empirical evidence one way or another from which to make an argument. It is an interdimensional boundary issue and personally I find it foolish to wonder if I am conscious or not.

    • ozone September 15, 2018 at 8:44 pm #

      Please let us know when you decide to pull your head out of your own ass. We’ll know that it could be time to begin to pay attention to your insufferable navel-gazing. (We understand that it will be quite a while so there’s no need to get excited just yet. ‘Couple years when the real world is intruding mebbe?)

  55. K-Dog September 15, 2018 at 2:21 pm #

    Whatever one wants to say about America, this is great place for a dog. In China one could be eaten and in Europe I’m sure, dogs don’t get nose hits on Friday Nights. Only in America where kegs of beer in midnight fields is a perennial right of passage do the young drink that which is distilled and have such values instilled.

    This is a good thing. If you are not sure ask a dog.

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    • Walter B September 15, 2018 at 2:52 pm #

      Hate to be the one to break this to you dog, but there are two main purposes to having a “man’s best friend” around, and I have always had a good buddy or two and loved them all.

      The first is as in a police dog, when trouble is ahead of you, Fido is the one to go in first and take the bullet so that we do not have to. Or flush out the bear or mountain lion to give us the best shot to save us both, but Doggie Boy is always our Point Man.

      Secondly, our domesticated canines have always been great garbage disposals finishing off the meat left on the bones and the rest of what we humans do not ingest, but when worse gets to worst, you can always eat your little buddy. He’s a self sufficient last few meals if need be.

      • elysianfield September 15, 2018 at 7:10 pm #

        ” He’s a self sufficient last few meals if need be.”

        So you were a snake-eater! I knew it!!!

        • Walter B September 15, 2018 at 8:01 pm #

          Have not to date, but would if need be.

          • capt spaulding September 15, 2018 at 9:18 pm #

            A dog, (German Shepard), Is a faithful friend, a defender of property & children, burglar alarm, and is guaranteed to be happy to see you when you come home. Nothing beats having a good dog.

          • GreenAlba September 16, 2018 at 7:11 am #

            A German Shepherd just a few weeks ago attacked our gentle greyhound, while the greyhound was on a lead and the GS was tied to railings outside one of our local shops.

            Since the owner has absconded both without paying the £450 vet’s bill and with £5000 of his employer’s money the police are due to come by in about 45 minutes to discuss the matter.

            But I don’t really blame the German Shepherd – only the idiot owner, who isn’t fit to have a dog (it’s attacked other dogs too).

  56. Tate September 15, 2018 at 2:23 pm #

    We have a homo billionaire running for governor here who has adopted some small kids, he & his “husband.” I just hope they’re not sexually abusing those children, but you always have to wonder given numerous examples of folks turning a blind eye to the obvious because of fear of ‘thoughtcrime’.

    Now all the cringy details are emerging about the psychological unfitness of that Somali cop in Minneapolis who shot the Australian woman. If they had been attentive to the danger signs, she would be alive today. For example, he once held a gun to the side of a man’s head because the guy had flipped somebody off in traffic.

    • K-Dog September 15, 2018 at 2:29 pm #

      Here I’ll contribute to your pig shit parade.

      • Tate September 15, 2018 at 4:05 pm #

        This is a sick Jewish fantasy, Keith. The “white” jews out of their masochistic persecution complexes & the POC jews out of revenge fantasies.

        • malthuss September 15, 2018 at 6:32 pm #

          what was it?

          • Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 6:40 pm #

            By the Jewish cartoonist R Crumb. I think it’s called “When the Blacks Take Over America”. Kdog loves it as do many Skinheads – for different reasons I suppose. There another even better one about when the Jews take over America.

          • elysianfield September 15, 2018 at 7:13 pm #

            Speaking of R Crumb, did you ever see his graphic-novel treatment of the Old Testament? If you have not, your education is not complete.

          • Janos Skorenzy September 16, 2018 at 2:33 pm #

            No, I should though. You’re right!

            If you have been that cop who found himself in the wrong apartment, what would you have done so that poor Botham Jean would be now be alive? She said he did not follow commands! So she had to pop him….

          • elysianfield September 16, 2018 at 8:44 pm #

            The “cop” at the “wrong apartment” apparently had made a noise complaint to the apartment manager regarding Botham over the past several days. Botham lived one story directly above the “cop”. Botham was shot over a noise complaint. The “cop” committed a murder under color of authority, and I have absolutely NO sympathy for her horseshit excuse.

            She should be introduced to “Mr. Needle”….

            And who the hell writes such a ridiculous report? Where is the imagination? She SHOULD have said that someone slipped LSD into her tea at wherever she takes lunch, and she thought she saw Botham as a terrorist wearing a turban and ululating…God is Great!

    • Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 2:36 pm #

      I love the way he just didn’t feel like talking to anyone for a year or so – and it took that long to bring him up on charges. Compare that to the White female cop who shot poor Botham Jean! That’s a really strange case in any case.

      Perhaps this kind of paranoia and wild unpredictability is the strength of the Somali. They’re certainly physically feeble next to the Bantus. In other words, he may well be just a “perfectly” normal specimen of his people – and thus utterly unsuited to be a cop or much of anything else in our society.

      I admire Hirsi Ali. But despite being very intelligent, loving the West and fitting in very well, in the end her heart is with her people. She wants the mass migration of Somalis to continue. She thinks they can acculturate, but there is no evidence that is happening. So she is willing to risk that which she loves – the West – on a gamble that somehow they will. I don’t doubt she loves the West, but she obviously loves her own People more, despite hating their culture. Otherwise she wouldn’t make this gamble. The Call of the Blood is strong.

      • K-Dog September 15, 2018 at 2:59 pm #

        “The slaves toiling in the fields and performing all hard manual labor of which there’ll be plenty, as modern complex technologies rapidly disappear.

        Somalis will be very good overseers. They keep to themselves and don’t mix so they won’t identify with the slaves and they will be quick to report any seeds of rebellion. Somalis don’t mess around and they take care of business. Eritreans on the other hand are crazy motherfuckers always on the lookout for a cause célèbre. Since Eritreans are the same size as Somalis and since they smell exactly the same, mixing them up could lead to some fun and games. Eritreans cut white folks slack. Somalis get pissed and knives come out. Meanwhile somebodys daughter gets some much needed rest.

        • Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 6:24 pm #

          You’re really flying the Jolly Roger/Anti-fa flag today, Keith.

  57. Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 2:43 pm #

    Hurricane Florence is a flop. Only five dead. The Liberals must be wildly disappointed, hoping for hundreds or thousands. Then they could have impeached Trump for colluding with Flo.

    I’m disappointed too because I worship Great Storms as incarnations of Shiva. I miss the East Coast in this regard. People are going to meet their personal Waterloo sooner or later, why not at the Hand of a great Whirlwind? Would they rather slip in the tub and hit their head on the Loo?

    death and life are twin aspects of Life. death is thus an evil but not Evil per se. Of course it’s natural to mourn those who die too soon or people one knows. I would do so as well if I was in the path of such a Beautiful Storm. I would worship but try to save myself as well. The news casters and weather people also worship the storms as it makes them feel important. They yearn for massive casualties too. I can tell.

    • malthuss September 15, 2018 at 6:34 pm #

      What if the storm was HAARP caused?

      • Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 6:55 pm #

        Well then HAARP is weak and not a fit harp for Israfel (the angel of death) whose heart is a lute, to play.

        I had a friend who used to say Katrina was an inside job and caused by HAARP. She thought the Elite were hiding in Boston’s Big Dig under the city. Of all the places to live….

  58. janet September 15, 2018 at 2:54 pm #

    ” I just hope they’re not sexually abusing those children, but you always have to wonder” –Tate

    Actually you do not have to wonder, unless your mind is obsessed with such things, because a recent research study found no child abuse for children of same-sex couples. That is an old myth. Children of heterosexual couples are more likely to be sexually abused. The anti-same-sex-parents myth goes back to the 1980s.

    Back then [1986], Gartrell said, many people assumed that kids of same-sex couples would not fare well.

    “We were just coming out of a time period when homosexuality was considered a mental disorder,” Gartrell said. “There were people arguing that homosexual parents could not be good parents.”

    But Gartrell’s team has found that the reality does not match the stereotypes. One set of findings, published in 2010, showed that at age 17, kids of lesbian moms had fewer behavioral problems, versus the norm for U.S. teens. They were also doing better in school, based on their mothers’ reports.

    Beyond that, Gartrell said, none of the teens said they’d ever been physically or sexually abused by a parent or other caretaker — far different from the norm for U.S. teenagers.

    That finding, Gartrell said, counters the common myth that homosexual parents are more likely to abuse their children.

    According to Dr. Jack Drescher, a clinical professor of psychiatry at Columbia University in New York City, “Research shows us that what’s important for kids is that they have parents who love them — and not whether their parents are straight or gay.”

    The findings, published in the July 19, 2018 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine, come from the largest, longest-running study to track development of kids. No sexual abuse was found. No need to “wonder” except at Tate’s sex-obsessed mind.

    • Tate September 15, 2018 at 4:13 pm #

      I hope you’re right, otherwise we’ll have a generational epidemic of sexual-abuse casualties to add to those victims of Papal indifference & cover-up.

      But you do know don’t you that male homosexuality is a very different thing than lesbian homosexuality? The outcomes for lesbian parentage may indeed not be quite as harmful as the other way. Still, so unfortunate that episode where the two lesbians got into their van to go on a “camping outing” with their mixed-race adoptees (four of them if memory serves) & drove off a cliff on the Pacific coastal highway. That was deliberate murder-suicide.

      • Tate September 15, 2018 at 4:20 pm #

        Then read the book by the daughter (blood relation) of Marion Zimmer Bradley, author of The Mists of Avalon & Walter Breen, the infamous child molester, revealing the horror of growing up with those two monsters.

        Moira Greyland is her name. Her book is called The Last Closet. It has a five-star rating at Amazon.

  59. Walter B September 15, 2018 at 2:58 pm #

    Hey kids, this is really off topic and while their is nothing to lament about it at all, I thought you all would enjoy this news:

    “Texas State Board of Education votes to erase Hillary Clinton from history curriculum”……..


    Looks like HRC is headed the way of the Confederate statue. Welcome to the ranks of the “Little People” your highness! We ‘ve prepared a special spot for you next to the fire, well, actually in the middle of it where you will be warm. Better be careful, those pesky laws may even start applying to you too oh great and glorious Harpy of Doom!

  60. Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 3:09 pm #

    Girl fired from fast food joint for not being able to understand a customer speaking Spanish. Very ominous. Any PR can now get anybody fired by gabbling the gibberish and then complaining when they don’t understand.

    Coast Guardsman fired for making Ok sign. Said to be A White Nationalist hand sign. Maybe it is, but that’s the first I’ve heard of it. The Deep State is increasing its persecution of Whites obviously.

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    • K-Dog September 15, 2018 at 3:21 pm #

      You have the ingredients of a romance story here Janos. Get a style guide and get to work.

      In your story you can make the girl go to beauty school at night after she gets a new job. Give her big dreams. She can live like a single mom but really only be taking care of her little brother since their parents were killed in a car crash. It’s cool, he is 14 and a good kid and she is not damaged goods.

      The Guardsman can get a job as a night watchman and they can meet on a bus. He can teach her what a blowjob is after they fall in love.

      • Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 6:29 pm #

        I’m already writing it in my head or has it already been written by my Hispanic self in another body? It’s called, Bodega Dreams, about how the Light gleams off the dusty cans in the little store, illuminating all who come in.

        I’m afraid to check on Amazon to see if it already exists or not because if it don’t, I have to write it.

        Alba will publish it and you, Keith, will weep big white lib boy tears as you read it. That Black woman you met at the rally will see you weeping, and a whole nother inter-racial drama will begin.

        • malthuss September 15, 2018 at 6:36 pm #

          Please dont feed that Troll.

        • Q. Shtik September 15, 2018 at 10:33 pm #

          Bodega Dreams, about how the Light gleams off the dusty cans in the little store, illuminating all who come in. – Janos


          Hahaha…Bodega Dreams…LMAO

        • GreenAlba September 16, 2018 at 7:15 am #

          “Alba will publish it ”

          I’m afraid I only have experience in STM (scientific, technical and medical) publishing.

          But K-Dog has already suggested the blurb – ‘from low job, to no job, to blowjob…’

  61. FincaInTheMountains September 15, 2018 at 3:37 pm #

    The Russian television links the preventive sanctions for interference in the American elections with a new book by Bob Woodward, one of the journalists who promoted the Watergate scandal and got the nickname “Assassin of Presidents” for that.

    In fact, he would have to be called the Assassin of the treaty on limiting strategic arms, since now it becomes clear, including thanks to this book, that the Watergate scandal is a conspiracy of then just emerging Deep State against the president who referred the USSR roughly the same as Trump refers to Russia, and the fact that the Deep State now asphyxiating at the peak of its power uses the same hired assassins of presidents as then, inspires confidence that this time they are going to lose.

    Moreover, it shows the continuity of American politics, which actually works against Clintonoids, and not for. And Trump can at any time pick up the analogy of what is happening with him and the Watergate scandal and deploy it against Clinton, asking why President Nixon resigned, having erased just 3 hours of his tapes with his assistants, and this is the only thing that Rodino Commission could incriminate him with, and Hillary Clinton has erased her business correspondence for 3 years of her tenure as secretary of state, and she got away with it.

    Moreover, the director of the FBI Comey, confirming that she had erased these letters after she received court summons with the request to hand it over to the investigators of the congressional commission, said “that no reasonable prosecutor could bring a case against her” and in obstructing justice I blame not her, but Trump who fired such a director of the FBI.

    • FincaInTheMountains September 15, 2018 at 5:28 pm #

      Hillary Clinton fired from Watergate:


      No less interesting is the fact that according to the senior adviser to the Rodino committee, Jerry Zeifman, it was Hillary Rodham (in the future Clinton) who not only handed the commission’s conclusions to Nixon and his assistants (see the photo above), but was also that person who completely illegally locked herself up with Nixon in the interrogation room, snatched from the president a letter with a request for resignation, then Zeifman fired her with a “wolf ticket”.

      And the gut feeling tells me that when we find out why Nixon wrote this letter with a request for resignation, we will find out why Vladimir Putin recently came forward with support for the pension reform in Russia.

    • FincaInTheMountains September 15, 2018 at 5:37 pm #

      Donald Trump always goes around and around this topic, but does not consider it necessary to raise it, because over the years the Watergate scandal has become one of the proofs of the advantages of Jeffersonian democracy over the totalitarian USSR and the one of the reasons for the US victory in the Cold War.

      That is, the sacred cow of ideology that allegedly created or saved the US, and an attempt to slaughter this cow can have extremely serious consequences for him.

      But the irony of the Higher Power, whose possibilities far exceed the capabilities of not only Trump or the Deep State, but also the combined capabilities of Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping, do not give him to sweep Watergate under the carpet, bringing him back to this topic, as if forcing him and the US to repent not only the glorifying the Watergate scandal that destroyed the SALT-1 treaty, the Detente and the peaceful coexistence of various political systems that have become Nixon’s main achievements, but also in the unleashing of the Cold War.

  62. janet September 15, 2018 at 3:53 pm #

    “Girl fired from fast food joint… The Deep State is increasing its persecution of Whites obviously.” –janos

    Which fast food joint does the Deep State run, janos? Obviously?

  63. Bro Jobe September 15, 2018 at 5:40 pm #

    JHK overstates a few things. Yes, the development along the Outer Banks is unsustainable. Heck, the Outer Banks themselves are due to migrate westward with rising seas. All those second homes are sand-castles. But they will be rebuilt a few more times.

    While JHK notes the deprivation that Florence will create inland, I don’t think he understands the Southeast mentality. I don’t care for our overbuilt coast, but friends and family who do still dream of an ocean view. They troop to the region and have these OBX stickers on their big SUVs. When they cannot buy, they rent.

    The only thing stopping them from buying now is how expensive it is to get a house by the sea.

    If you have enough money, you still can get flood insurance, and the NC legislature passed a bill not long ago making it easier to build on the coast, even relaxing codes for building! Thus, the march of folly. We’ll keep building there until it’s impossible.

    • Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 6:32 pm #

      Yeah, just live in cardboard or plywood shacks by the sea. No worries if they blow away or get flooded. Just rebuild in a couple of days.

      • malthuss September 15, 2018 at 6:45 pm #

        By the Jewish cartoonist R Crumb.

        Robert Crumb was born on August 30, 1943, in Philadelphia to a Catholic household[2] of English and Scottish ancestry.[3] His father, Charles V. Crumb, authored the book Training People Effectively,[2] and was a Combat Illustrator for 20 years in the United States Marine Corps.[citation needed] His mother Beatrice was a housewife who reportedly abused diet pills and amphetamines.

        You might enjoy his movie. It played in theaters. ‘Crumb’—
        low budget documentary.
        he moves to France.
        He entered the wrong house but talked the gal into selling it.
        His crazy brother kills himself.

        • Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 6:59 pm #

          I saw Maxon, his other brother, meditating for money in a doorway in San Francisco once. Pretty sure it was him.

          Yes, his third brother never got over being bullied in high school it seems. That plus the Dad. They all took LSD and had visions of very angry East Asians cursing them. Crumb and Max theorized that their Dad did something terrible in Vietnam and was cursed by the locals or perhaps by a shaman. They felt the curse was real and had affected their lives.

    • But they don’t get rebuilt. Look at the mississippi peninsula, or the Cape hatteras.

      Now imagine southern florida. All gone. It will happen.

      • elysianfield September 16, 2018 at 11:25 am #

        “Look at the mississippi peninsula, or the Cape hatteras”

        …Can’t see it from my house….

  64. Tate September 15, 2018 at 7:53 pm #

    Vox: “Peter Grant responds to critics & comments concerning his original post on the existential threat posed by identity politics:

    “Our society is built around the concept of a nation state as the focus of our loyalties, embodying our families, our tribes and our communities into a higher order of commitment.  As former President Theodore Roosevelt famously said in a 1915 speech:

    ”There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all. This is just as true of the man who puts ‘native’ before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance. But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good an American as anyone else.

    “The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic. The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans; and there ought to be no room for them in this country. The man who calls himself an American citizen and who yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly mischievous part in the life of our body politic. He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the land to which he feels his real heart allegiance, the better it will be for every good American. There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

    “If you believe in the concept of a specifically American nation, it’s hard to disagree with him.

    “The concept of a “tribe” can be inimical to this national identity.  If one places more pride in being a socialist or communist or capitalist or Democrat or Republican, or a Christian or Muslim or Jew or Buddhist or Hindu, or a citizen of Texas or California or Vermont or Wyoming or Alaska, than one does in being an American, then one’s loyalty to one’s country is necessarily affected or influenced by the extent to which one identifies with that primary personal identity.  If the group(s) to which one belongs place similar emphasis on being this, or that, or the other, before being American, the same problem arises.

    “The trouble is, such divided loyalties end up weakening everybody – ourselves, our tribes, our communities, and our nation.

    Vox: “No doubt that is true. But the problem with Peter’s thinking is that loyalty to an artificially constructed ‘nation-state’ can be manufactured simply by everyone of goodwill electing to pretend that they are all part of the same nation. Even after centuries of being unified under a single British crown, the Scots voted for independence – it was the votes of the non-Scots resident in Scotland that caused the “Scottish” independence vote to fail.

    “And even Teddy Roosevelt himself said that ‘there ought to be no room’ in the country for those who do not consider themselves to be Americans and nothing else. That means forcibly deporting most of the post-1965 immigrants, all of the Jews, and all of the African-Americans, just for starters. And that’s a more extreme position than that espoused by the average member of the Alt-Right. I very much doubt most of the civic nationalists who cite Roosevelt’s stirring rhetoric realize precisely what it is they are implicitly endorsing.

    “The rise of 4GW has broken the state’s monopoly on violence. Once nukes or other weapons of mass destruction are accessible to non-state actors, that will break the state’s monopoly on political legitimacy as well, because there will be strength without the numbers provided by unity.

    “And like nukes, identity politics are not going to disappear simply because some people happen to find them distasteful. Identity politics are not a Marxist plot or a ‘right-wing SJW’ tactic, they are nothing less than the political environment in which Americans now find themselves due to their foolish and ruinous immigration policies of the last 53 years.

    • This function that Roosevelt referred to, still exists. Its called the U.S. Military. It strips identity (to the extent possible) and distributes the population across the landscape.

      Pretty well homogenized after 100 years. The question is, was it a good thing? I would vote no for many reasons, but primarily, because while it suppressed identity politics per se, it also destroyed regional identity and cultures, many of which were nascent.

      But it seems heterogeneity is the egg you have to crack to make an omelette-state.

      • Exscotticus September 15, 2018 at 9:26 pm #

        I have no problem with fifty shades of red, white, and blue. We have 50 state after all. But when you start letting in cultures that couldn’t care less about the values those 50 states have in common, then you know you’ve gone too far.

  65. Janos Skorenzy September 15, 2018 at 8:56 pm #

    Massachusetts Man killed by shark. This after four died in northeast Ma in gas explosions. Massachusetts is being hammered! But still tens of millions are left. Shiva is going to have to do a lot better….

    Or look at the case of poor Botham Jean. Yet people go on living as if nothing happened. Wait till it’s their turn and everyone ignores their tragedy!

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    • Tate September 15, 2018 at 9:19 pm #

      There’s something fishy about that case. The story doesn’t add up. Some people shouldn’t be in a police uniform. Generally, women shouldn’t be on a police force. They lack the physical strength for one thing. Dirty Harry was right to be skeptical.

      • Janos Skorenzy September 16, 2018 at 2:29 pm #

        Maybe she was a Dom and he was a client. He left the door open for her, but their White Female Cop scenario went wrong when she forgot her gun was loaded. Or maybe he went off script and she had to defend herself. The hazards of moonlighting!

        • Tate September 16, 2018 at 3:27 pm #

          Assuming everything that has come out so far is more or less the truth (& mistakes like that do occur), a woman is apt to over-react, knowing she will be overwhelmed in a physical struggle. Whereas a man might have simply exited the apartment & called for back-up, she blazes away. Not good!

  66. FincaInTheMountains September 16, 2018 at 5:56 am #

    The Last of the Mohicans 3

    On the other hand, reality and physics in the Poincaré theory split into two incompatible parts – the classical physics of particles with the kinematics of Galilean transformations and field physics, with the kinematics of Lorentz transformations.

    In Einstein’s theory, reality and physics turned out to be the same for the electromagnetic field and for all other interactions, however, the “real” space and time, the structure of which did not depend on the observer, disappeared. The very notions of matter and spirit began to scatter a little and mix with each other, but for very specific historical reasons, one of which was preparation for a World War, the esoteric communities, despite the angry cries of Poincaré supporters, decided to recognize the scientific merits of Einstein.

    They even gave him the opportunity to defend his thesis and continue to engage in science not only in his free time from the analysis of patents. The result was that Einstein managed to extend his epistemological approach, called the “Einstein’s Arc” to the analysis of the theory of gravity, since the time of Newton, invariably clearly formulated and equally invariably incapable of answering at least some question about the nature and mechanism of this interaction.

    Numerous attempts to introduce a consistent concept of the gravitational field were unsuccessful, and the theory of gravitation was the only refuge of the theory of long-range action, when one object instantly acts on another remote object. Moreover, a particularly intolerable situation developed after the creation of the SRT, when it became clear that the theory of long-range action in conjunction with SRT contradicts the law of causality.

    And only the principle of the equivalence of the forces of gravity and the so-called inertia forces, formulated by Einstein in 1915, according to which it is impossible to detect the existence of a gravitational field in a freely falling elevator of sufficiently small size, made it possible to generalize the principle of relativity to non-inertial frames of reference and create a theory of gravity that does not require a principle of long-range action.

    The truth was not the gravitational field, but the laws of geometry that could vary from point to point, and the long-range action disappeared, and the already buried law of causality, according to which the result of any action is in relation to it in the absolute past, rose from the coffin in good health.

    The result was a general theory of relativity based on the principle of covariance, according to which the mathematical formulation of the laws of nature should not depend on the inertiality of the frame of reference or the absence thereof.

    It is the minimal amount of initial assumptions and the logical harmony of Einstein’s theory, which freed the concept of time from the absolutization of the a priori of the assigned properties, made it possible to reveal the reciprocity of the connection between the properties of time and legitimate causality and even its priority.

    From a Christian point of view, this is especially important, since it is causality that allows a person to realize the connection between sin and the consequences of sin, which is an indispensable component of repentance. Thus, it is GRT that fully confirms the point of view of the Orthodox saints, for example Gregory of Nyssa, which he expressed more than a thousand years ago and according to which both the universe and the laws of nature governing it are created in such a way as to contribute to the repentance and salvation of man – the image and likeness of God.

    Another axiom of general relativity was the assertion that at low speeds and masses, general relativity must merge with the Newtonian law of universal gravitation. And that’s all, no other assumptions in deriving the equations of general relativity Einstein did not introduce. All other results were obtained by him in cooperation with Marcel Grossman and David Gilbert with the help of impeccable logic and virtuosic mathematics.

    But then, in 1915, when, after the battle on the Marne, it became clear that without Russia the Entente countries were doomed to a crushing defeat and the attention of the whole world was riveted on the Gallipoli meat grinder and the gas attack of the German army in Ypres, no one could understand all the consequences for mankind of this Einstein’s publication, in which he outlined the foundations of general relativity. This work fundamentally changed the awareness of mankind of its place in the world and, first of all, what is possible in this world and what is not. That is, this work of Einstein pushed the boundaries of the human imagination and revealed new possibilities of the human mind, and this is not only physics.

  67. Blockbuster New York Times this morning with a full section on how the 2008 financial crisis changed everything.

    • Exscotticus September 16, 2018 at 4:06 pm #

      And in most ways it changed nothing.

      Banksters still not prosecuted.
      “Too Big to Fail” still here.
      “Privatize the Profits, Socialize the Losses” still here.
      Artificial (ZIRP, QE-Infiity-based) bubble market still here.
      Fake (paid-for) CRA ratings still here.
      CRAs responsible for Great Recession still here; no one prosecuted.
      Preditory and usurious lending still here.
      Dodd-Frank weakened and under attack.
      Unpayable student loan debt still here—and growing.
      Auto loan delinquency rates soaring.
      People still not saving (57% of U.S. adults have less than $1,000 to their names).
      People still living beyond their means.
      Culture of irresponsibility encouraged at all levels.

  68. janet September 16, 2018 at 11:31 am #

    “ if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good an American as anyone else.” —Teddy Roosevelt

    America is about allegiance to the ideals of the founding documents… NOT about blood or soil or borders or papers.

    We are not “letting in other cultures” … they are Americans because they are comng on their own … With or without papers, they belong here. Immigrants are a net positive.

    Trying to deport 11 million “illegals” is foolish. Trying to build a wall to keep out other cultures is foolish and wasteful. Racism is un-American.

    • Tate September 16, 2018 at 2:35 pm #

      The founders thought otherwise regarding allegiance to the founding documents. Alexander Hamilton had something to say about this that rings true today:

      “The impolicy of admitting foreigners to an immediate and unreserved participation in the right of suffrage, or in the sovereignty of a Republic, is as much a received axiom as any thing in the science of politics, and is verified by the experience of all ages. Among other instances, it is known, that hardly any thing contributed more to the downfall of Rome, than her precipitate communication of the privileges of citizenship to the inhabitants of Italy at large. And how terribly was Syracuse scourged by perpetual seditions, when, after the overthrow of the tyrants, a great number of foreigners were suddenly admitted to the rights of citizenship? Not only does ancient but modern, and even domestic history furnish evidence of what may be expected from the dispositions of foreigners, when they get too early footing in a country.”

      And elsewhere, Hamilton wrote:

      ”The safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common National sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits; on the exemption of the citizens from foreign bias, and prejudice; and on that love of country which will almost invariably be found to be closely connected with birth, education and family.
      . . . The influx of foreigners must, therefore, tend to produce a heterogeneous compound; to change and corrupt the national spirit; to complicate and confound public opinion; to introduce foreign propensities. In the composition of society, the harmony of the ingredients is all important, and whatever tends to a discordant intermixture must have an injurious tendency.”

  69. capt spaulding September 16, 2018 at 2:52 pm #

    The Constitution was set up the way it was because the founders knew that people couldn’t be trusted. They are being proven right.

  70. janet September 16, 2018 at 3:21 pm #

    “Alexander Hamilton had something to say…” –Tate

    Lots of founders had lots of things to say. But what got into the Declaration of Independence (an official act taken by all 13 American colonies) is what founded the nation, not the conflicting opinions of individuals at the time.

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    ALL MEN**, NOT just the immigrants who have visas, NOT just naturalized citizens, NOT just those born here.

    **Men refers to members of the species Homo sapiens or all the members of this species collectively, without regard to sex:
    prehistoric man. Man refers to the human individual as representing the species, without reference to sex; the human race; humankind:
    Man hopes for peace. ALL is all-inclusive.

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    • janet September 16, 2018 at 3:40 pm #

      By the way, Tate, Alexander Hamilton was not among the founders who signed the Declaration of Independence.

      • Tate September 16, 2018 at 4:03 pm #

        Thomas Jefferson was not among the founders who convened for the Constitutional Convention.

        What’s your point?

    • Exscotticus September 16, 2018 at 4:04 pm #

      LOL janet quotes imperialist Teddy Roosevelt to prove her Lefty points. FAIL!

      Declaration of Independence not a legal document. Not part of any USA oath of allegiance. FAIL!

      janet painfully argues that “men” meant “mankind”—yet women were excluded from suffrage for over 100 years. FAIL!

      Black men could not vote, either. FAIL!

      If “men” means all humans then why can’t children vote? FAIL!

      Nothing in Constitution or laws to say all people have a right to USA citizenship. FAIL!

      Lefty racist janet hates “old white cis-gendered men”—who wrote all the Founding Documents and created the nation. FAIL!

      America not built by immigrants. Virtually no immigration from birth of nation to mid-1800s. America already thriving and prosperous (which is why immigrants came in the first place, duh!). FAIL!

      Not possible to put entire world on USA welfare. Open borders would destroy any welfare state. FAIL!

      Not enough resources in USA to feed entire world population of $7.5 billion. FAIL!

  71. Tate September 16, 2018 at 3:36 pm #

    Alexander Hamilton’s opinion was the majority view.

    In the Naturalization act of 1790, the path to citizenship (naturalization) was restricted to “free White persons of good character.” Remember that it was enacted BEFORE the Bill of Rights to the Constitution was even ratified. That says something about how seriously they took it.

    But of course, they didn’t mean it, right? Alll in jest… Somewhere along the line it evolved into a hip-hop musical, lol.

    • janet September 16, 2018 at 3:43 pm #

      Somewhere along the line, in court case after court case, the nation became a more perfect multicultural union… a union of races and cultures that go way beyond “free White persons” …

      Are you saying “free White persons” are the only ones who should be part of the United States?

      • Tate September 16, 2018 at 4:00 pm #

        Are you saying that the 1790 legislation was wrong for its time?

    • janet September 16, 2018 at 3:51 pm #

      “But of course, they didn’t mean it, right? Alll in jest…” –Tate

      Undoubtedly they meant it, but times change, and the system is set up with checks and balances. People (all people, not just citizens) have redress to the judicial branch. So, we continue evolving. But some things don’t change: non-citizens have rights, because the founding document applies to ALL PERSONS.

      Our constitution applies to “all persons,” not just “all citizens,” because that’s what the language of the document says.

      For example, if someone (a non-citizen) makes a constitutional challenge to any law which permits children to be separated from their parents, the courts will evaluate the law and determine whether it meets constitutional muster.

      • Exscotticus September 16, 2018 at 4:12 pm #

        So if “all persons” then children can vote? Then USA can start taxing all people on earth? And fine them and jail them and seize their assets when they do not follow USA law?


  72. Tate September 16, 2018 at 3:46 pm #

    Excerpted from Counter-Currents Publishing:

    by A. Graham

    “Three years after its premiere, Lin-Manuel Miranda’s Hamilton is still running and is currently on its second national tour. The hip-hop, racially diverse re-imagining of the life of Alexander Hamilton has been the object of nauseatingly fulsome praise since its premiere and has been zealously promoted by the mainstream media. Hamilton songs have even become part of high school and college curricula nationwide.

    “All of Hamilton’s cast members are non-white except for the actor who plays King George III. The plot emphasizes Hamilton’s immigrant background and humble origins. He is referred to as an immigrant in what feels like every other number. One critic gushes that ‘Miranda’s impassioned narrative of one man’s story becomes the collective narrative of a nation, a nation built by immigrants . . . .’

    “Its pro-immigrant message obscures the fact that Hamilton’s stance on immigration would be characterized as ‘xenophobic’ today. Hamilton was instrumental in passing the Alien and Sedition Acts. The Alien Friends Act authorized the government to detain and deport foreigners hailing from an enemy nation during wartime, and the Alien Enemies Act authorized the president to imprison or deport foreigners who were suspected of posing a threat to the country during either wartime or peacetime. Hamilton’s support for the acts was not motivated by reluctant political pragmatism (as Ron Chernow has argued); he was among the foremost proponents of their enforcement. John Adams even credited him with having devised them.

    “It is worth noting that, although Hamilton and Jefferson were bitter rivals, both opposed unrestricted immigration. Hamilton described the views on immigration outlined in Jefferson’s Notes on the State of Virginia as ‘undoubtedly correct.’ It is significant that they agreed on this issue given the multitude of differences between them. It was taken for granted that measures should be taken to preserve America’s national character; they merely disagreed on the details. Jefferson and the Democratic-Republicans opposed the Alien and Sedition Acts, but primarily on the grounds that they granted excessive power to the federal government and that the Sedition Act violated the right to free speech.

    “Hamilton was also an unabashed elitist who opposed democracy. He went as far as to call democracy a ‘poison’ in his last letter. He did not look well on the French Revolution. He was opposed to rebellions enacted by the ‘unthinking populace’ and supported the idea of using military force to suppress them if necessary.

    “Hamilton’s protectionism is likewise anathema to today’s neoliberal establishment. He supported instituting tariffs on imports in order to encourage American industry and reduce reliance on foreign products. He was the intellectual father of the American School of Economics, which came into being in the 1860s and was characterized by support for homegrown manufacturing and opposition to free trade. Trump’s ‘America First’ platform resembles this tradition.

    Hamilton opposed slavery and belonged to the New York Manumission Society, but he owned slaves himself and participated in the exchange of slaves…. His opposition to slavery was a minor aspect of his worldview, and he seldom commented on the subject. Miranda’s portrayal of him as a passionate abolitionist is wishful thinking.

    “All of this is overlooked in the musical (and also downplayed in Ron Chernow’s biography, upon which the musical is loosely based)….

    “As a work of art, Hamilton is vastly overrated. There are a handful of clever rhymes and well-placed references throughout, but the show overall resembles a two-and-a-half-hour-long glorified high school history skit. Michelle Obama called it ‘the best piece of art in any form that I have ever seen in my life,’ which is all one needs to know.

    “The Hamilton craze appears to be a bipartisan phenomenon. Its fans are mostly white liberals, though it is also admired by the neocon Boomers at the National Review, whose review of it is embarrassingly titled ‘Funky Founder.’ 77% of people who attend Broadway shows are white, and 80% have a college education. They are affluent; the average ticket to Hamilton is about $800…

    Hamilton has been trumpeted as the musical that ‘everyone’ is seeing (the greatest cultural event of the decade, even), but hardly anyone has seen it outside of a coalition of government/media insiders, rich New Yorkers, and others in their social network. The total number of Hamilton viewers from January 2015 to March 2016 likely did not exceed 384,000. In comparison, the NASCAR Cup Series finale of 2015 was watched by 7.6 million Americans.

    “Most establishment politicians have seen it. The Obamas, the Clintons, Dick Cheney, Joe Biden, Mitt Romney, and Rahm Emanuel number among its fans. It has also been praised by such celebrities as Oprah Winfrey, Beyoncé, and Amy Schumer. The only high-profile figure who has criticized Hamilton is Trump, who called it ‘highly overrated.’

    “Miranda… does not have much in the way of ‘street cred,’ despite his hip-hop pretensions. His father was an adviser to Ed Koch, his mother was a psychologist, and he attended Wesleyan University. He has spent most of his life around educated whites.

    “The musical is popular among white liberals (and ‘funky’ aging neocons) in large part because its pro-immigrant, anti-racist message enables them to signal their progressive bona-fides and experience diversity vicariously from the comfort of the theatre without actually having to interact with non-whites in real life. They can listen to Miranda’s anodyne, polished brand of hip-hop and congratulate themselves on being cool without experiencing the ‘vibrancy’ of hip-hop/ghetto culture first-hand…

    “It also panders to their high-minded fantasy that inside every black person lies a silver-tongued statesman or scholar waiting to emerge. White liberals do not really interact with black people (beyond token cases), so this fantasy is plausible to them.

    “White moderates need to realize that non-whites (blacks in particular) do not share their vision of a multiracial utopia in which the races live and work together in peace. Most do not want mere parity with whites, nor the opportunity to participate in and contribute to Western culture… Hamilton’s multiracial casting holds sentimental appeal for whites who idealistically envision non-whites as their equals, but non-whites have generally been less enthusiastic about the musical. A number of them have rightfully criticized its blindness to historical fact and its failure to acknowledge the fact that America was founded on ‘racism’ and inequality. They would rather see a musical involving a hypothetical black uprising against the Founding Fathers than one in which the Founding Fathers were played by non-whites.

    It is fitting and unsurprising that liberal/neoconservative elites have salivated over it. Their ‘patriotism’ is hollow and inauthentic, and their feel-good endorsement of diversity willfully ignores the dystopian reality of multiracialism and globalization…

    • janet September 16, 2018 at 4:02 pm #

      Their ‘patriotism’ is hollow and inauthentic, and their feel-good endorsement of diversity willfully ignores the dystopian reality of multiracialism and globalization… –Tate

      Tate, you don’t get to decide what is hollow or inauthentic. We fought a war over the principle “no taxation without representation”. Immigrants, including those without papers, immigrants who have residence here, immigrants who are working here, immigrants who are raising their families here, immigrants who pay taxes every time they shop at Walmart, immigrants who pay utility bills for water, electricity, etc. … those immigrants have earned the right to vote for their representation.

      All immigrants, including the millions without “papers” should have the right to vote. If they have an ITIN or other state-issued identification, they should be allowed to vote. The Individual Tax Identification Number (ITIN) is a tax processing number issued by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to ensure that people – including unauthorized immigrants – pay taxes even if they do not have a Social Security number and regardless of their immigration status.

  73. Tate September 16, 2018 at 4:11 pm #

    If they’re illegal aliens, they don’t have the right to vote. And they don’t have the right to remain here. These memes mock the very idea of a nation of laws with borders & it mocks the citizens who comprise that nation & who trust their leaders to protect those borders & to enforce those laws.

    • janet September 16, 2018 at 4:23 pm #

      “If they’re illegal aliens, they don’t have the right to vote. And they don’t have the right to remain here.” –Tate

      They want to remain here. They are American citizens by the fact they reside here. That is what the word citizen means.

      “it mocks the citizens who comprise that nation” –Tate

      No, it enriches our nation, and provides a just vote for representation… which is in keeping with the American principle of “no taxation without representation.” Immigrants are paying taxes and should be allowed to vote for their representation, according to our deepest American principle, the one we fought a war over.

      • Tate September 16, 2018 at 4:56 pm #

        Who is this “we” you speak of?

        • janet September 16, 2018 at 5:06 pm #

          Tate, in the Revolutionary War, slave owners often let their Black slaves enlist in the war with promises of freedom. Blacks and whites fought for your freedom. But many Blacks were put back into slavery after the conclusion of the war. White men cannot be trusted.

          • Exscotticus September 16, 2018 at 5:17 pm #

            Lefty racist janet loves immigrants says: “White men cannot be trusted.”


  74. janet September 16, 2018 at 4:27 pm #

    “Taxation without representation is tyranny.”

    About half of undocumented workers in the United States file income tax returns. The most recent IRS data, from 2015, shows that the agency received 4.4 million income tax returns from workers who don’t have Social Security numbers, which includes a large number of undocumented immigrants. That year, they paid $23.6 billion in income taxes.

    Those undocumented workers paid taxes for benefits they can’t even use, like Social Security and Medicare. They also aren’t eligible for benefits like the earned income tax credit. But the IRS still expects unauthorized immigrants to file their taxes, and many of them do so.

    • Tate September 16, 2018 at 4:55 pm #

      Illegal aliens cost American taxpayers vastly more in public services than they pay in taxes.

      You’re correct however that taxation without representation is tyranny.

      To escape the ‘tyranny,’ illegals should simply return to their country of origin.

      • janet September 16, 2018 at 5:31 pm #

        “To escape the ‘tyranny,’ illegals should simply return to their country of origin.” –Tate

        That is their decision to make, not ours. My opinion is they should stay and fight for their voting rights, maybe even get an amnesty like the one Ronald Reagan gave. The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 was signed into law by Ronald Reagan. Good move, in my opinion.

        As of May 2017, twelve states (California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Vermont, and Washington), the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico have laws in their books that allow illegal immigrants to obtain a driver’s license or some type of driving permit.

        Fight! Soon it will be 50 states.

        • Tate September 16, 2018 at 7:23 pm #

          You’re boring. Go away.

  75. janet September 16, 2018 at 4:56 pm #

    “Lefty janet loves immigrants hates “old white cis-gendered men”.” –exscotticus

    Recognizing the source of a problem is not “hating.”

    “If America is the culmination of Western white civilization, as everyone from the Left to the Right declares, then there must be something terribly wrong with Western white civilization. This is a painful truth; few of us want to go that far. … The truth is that Mozart, Pascal, Boolean algebra, Shakespeare, parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation of women, Kant, Marx, Balanchine ballets, et al., don’t redeem what this particular civilization has wrought upon the world. The white race is the cancer of human history; it is the white race and it alone—its ideologies and inventions—which eradicates autonomous civilizations wherever it spreads, which has upset the ecological balance of the planet, which now threatens the very existence of life itself.” –Susan Sontag

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    • Tate September 16, 2018 at 5:05 pm #

      Calling the White race the “cancer of human history” sounds a lot like hating to me. Some of us don’t cotton to the idea that we’re the equivalent of cancer. Some of us may beg to differ. Some of us are not going to roll over & drink the soy.

      • janet September 16, 2018 at 5:15 pm #

        “Calling the White race the “cancer of human history” sounds a lot like hating to me.” –Tate

        You appear to be a man with feeeeeelings, as Rush Limbaugh says. Apparently you can’t handle the truth about the destruction, exploitation, humiliation, and genocide whites have wrought upon millions in the world, on a scale, and with technologies of death unparalleled in human history.

        The Chinese and North Koreans have nuclear weapons. They don’t use them. The Muslims have nuclear weapons. They don’t use them. The Jews have nuclear weapons. They don’t use them. Whites are the only ones in world history who have used nuclear weapons, and they used them against defenseless civilian populations, more than once, murdering men, women, children, babies, newborns, and women with fetuses in utero.

        • Tate September 16, 2018 at 5:28 pm #

          Hypocrite. What do you care about “women with fetuses in utero?” Nothing at all, judging by your previous posts, which celebrate abortion.

          But hopefully, Supreme Ct. Justice Kavanaugh will help us to heal as a nation even though his appointment can’t bring back the millions who have been sacrificed on the altar of Moloch.

          • janet September 16, 2018 at 5:35 pm #

            “judging by your previous posts, which celebrate abortion.” –Tate

            I celebrate a woman’s right to choose, a woman’s right to control her own body. The nuclear attacks launched by white men killed the women and the fetus in utero. Abortion does not kill the woman. Often abortion is the way to save the life of the woman.

            I am sure you approve of abortion in the case of victims of rape, or to save the life of the woman. What federal laws are there that dictate what a man can do with his body?

          • Tate September 16, 2018 at 5:42 pm #

            Men don’t give birth. They don’t carry a child, another human life. So why would there be equivalent laws concerning men? Doesn’t make sense.

        • Walter B September 16, 2018 at 7:05 pm #

          Well janet, your point about white men being the only ones that have ever unleashed nuclear weapons upon mankind certainly cannot be argued, it remains fact. But just as folks like you will argue that white people with guns must be disarmed because they may use them for bad purposes, so too are all the other peoples that you point out who have nuclear weapons more than capable of unleashing them against other people, and these weapons only destroy civilians, women, children and their future spawn as well. Anyone that maintains a nuclear arsenal is potential murdering scum so what’s the point?

          You want to argue that white people suck because they can be violent and destructive? Duh, well yeah. pretty much any human can be violent and destructive. But they can also build societies and systems and civilizations that serve mankind as well. How do you like it when people argue that blacks are lazy scum and are worthless? Or that Hispanics are not too bright and cannot form governments that holds together for more than a few years? Seriously, what is the point of such racist ravings except to create tension and perhaps violence between the races? Well if that is what you are and that is the best you can do than I suggest that you go for it and get it started already.

          Me, I have found that working together with people of any sort and any kind towards common goals is a far better way to actually be productive. But that’s just me.

  76. janet September 16, 2018 at 5:01 pm #

    “Illegal aliens cost American taxpayers vastly more in public services than they pay in taxes.” –Tate

    Immigrants Are a Fiscal Boon, Not a Burden

    After a few years in America, the foreign-born pay more into the safety net than they take out.

    “During their first 20 years of life as working-age Americans, Evans and Fitzgerald found, refugees contributed about $21,000 more to the system than they took out. At first, refugees are a fiscal drain, since the government spends money to help them relocate and get started in the U.S., and because at first many refugees have trouble finding a job. But refugees steadily learned how to make it in the new land — six years after arriving, they hade higher employment rates than the average native-born American. They then mostly got off welfare and became taxpayers for many years.”

    The Economic and Social Outcomes of Refugees in the United States: Evidence from the ACS by William N. Evans, Daniel Fitzgerald. NBER Working Paper No. 23498


  77. Tate September 16, 2018 at 5:19 pm #

    ‘This is Hialeah!’ Taco Bell employee refuses to help client who doesn’t speak Spanish


    Shouldn’t we be pressing for making English the official language of the U.S.? I think so.

  78. FincaInTheMountains September 16, 2018 at 5:20 pm #

    Blockbuster New York Times this morning with a full section on how the 2008 financial crisis changed everything == snack pack

    The fact of the matter is that in the world until around 2008 one elite group dominated the World economic system – it can be called international financiers or FinIntern.

    To a large extent they dominated because they controlled a very important resource – the Philosopher’s Stone, also known as a printing press or in popular culture Federal Reserve System, which was solely responsible for emission of the US dollar.

    They didn’t control that very important instrument entirely legally, since FRS is under the jurisdiction of the United States of America, but as long as these international financiers controlled the administration of the US president, there was no difference, but for some time now there have been presidents in power in connection with other elite groups.

    First it was President Obama, and now it is President Trump.

    Obama was the first to act during the crisis of 2008 and international financiers realizing then that there are going to be problems, and for this reason in 2011, an attempt was made to pull out the issue of international currency from under the jurisdiction of the US – to make IMF into the Central Bank of the Central Banks, the IMF SDR replacing the US Dollar as a world currency and thus actually completing the Bretton Woods reform to there liking, finalizing their hold over international financial institutions of the Bretton Woods – the IMF, WTO, and the World Bank.

    It did not work out – the Obama administration responded to that threat with the Strauss-Kahn criminal case, the arrest of the head of the IMF in New York, after which it became clear that United States would not yield the Emission Center.


    In 2014, Obama took the next step – he banned the emission of the dollar – the liquidity crisis of the global financial system began.

    After that there were a lot of things, in particular devaluation of the 2014 of regional currencies (including Russian Ruble), as the world’s financiers needed resources, and they could only be taken from “developing” economies – the IMF gave the command to devalue the national currencies of “developing” countries for a tremendous capital flight – Russia lost about $200 billion, China lost $2 trillion. All “emerging economies” were hit as well.

    The results of midterm elections in 2014 in the United States made clear that the national-oriented forces in the United States alternative to global financiers could come to power and in 2016 Trump became president.

    Logic of Donald Trump is pretty straight-forward – in the face of the inevitable collapse of the existing global financial system based on US Dollar and Bretton Woods agreements, administration must support the US real sector and he began to do it – reduced taxes on the real sector, began to raise customs duties, destroying the WTO system, and he sought some agreements with representatives of other national economies – China and Russia in particular.

    The war was announced after Trump returned from Helsinki – on July 16 he met with Putin and on July 17, returning to the US, he announced that the Fed’s policy is not correct.

    For 104 years of the Fed’s existence, this was the first intervention by the administration of the American president into the Fed’s policy.

    • Tate September 16, 2018 at 5:39 pm #

      I don’t know about that. I heard through reliable sources that LBJ became very short-tempered with William McChesney Martin, chair of the Federal Reserve, at one particular private meeting.

      • FincaInTheMountains September 16, 2018 at 5:44 pm #

        I meant official public statement by the US President on disagreement with the FED policy.

        In private, they could’ve beaten each other over the head with their shoes.

    • FincaInTheMountains September 16, 2018 at 5:41 pm #

      *** IMPORTANT ***

      When I say inevitable crisis, the collapse of the existing global financial system based on US Dollar and Bretton Woods agreements I don’t mean that it has to have a catastrophic nature, on the contrary, I hope that it will be a smooth transition over the course of 5 – 15 years – nobody except the FinIntern is interested in uncontrollable collapse of the financial system, neither Russia, nor China, nor the US.

    • FincaInTheMountains September 16, 2018 at 6:13 pm #

      That is why I think that the Deep State in its current form was setup by Hillary back in 2000 to continue control of the Administration of US President after the loss of her protégé Al Gore in 2000 elections, regardless of who is in the office.

      And one of the goals of 911 was to show who is really in charge.

      And if you consider that according to a very persistent in the state of Arkansas rumor that Bill Clinton is an illegitimate son of the Rockefeller, you could see the rest of the picture.

    • FincaInTheMountains September 16, 2018 at 9:33 pm #

      Apparently, within the framework of the regular development of the situation, Trump wins.

      And for this reason, the global financier elite of the “Western” project organize chaos. It has almost lost (since Bush Jr., it does not control the entire executive power in the US), but it has serious chances and resources. And so they will fight to the end.

      And yes, they categorically need to involve Russia in this fight, which is still diligently trying to twist itself out of the situation.

      But, I repeat, it’s not the US as a state, it’s organized by a supranational financial group that controls virtually all world finances, but does not control the administrative power resource – such as Army, National Guard, Police and half of intelligence.

      And this must be taken into account.

  79. wm5135 September 16, 2018 at 7:23 pm #

    How long till it is Monday?

    • Walter B September 16, 2018 at 7:45 pm #

      Too long.

  80. Billy Hill September 16, 2018 at 8:39 pm #

    Though it’s late Sunday and this Friday’s post is near its end I feel obliged to write a sentence or two.

    It feels as if our host has used somethIng I would not wish on anyone as a pretext to do a little dixie bashing, to the glee of automatons like Janet who exclaim “good writing this week, Jim!” Janet — if she even exists — is in solitary confinement in her echo chamber and is incapable of entertaining a dissonant thought. She and her ilk regardless of persuasion are the problem.

    But I digress. Will our host dump on the political culture of Seattle should the great subduction occur? Is that a valid pretext for highlighting the perceived shortcomings of an entire region? Or should the Big One level LA — will that be an excuse to rail against the auto culture, as if the auto culture were somehow complicit in the destruction?

    Frankly, as our host points out, what remains of “Dixie” is vestigial, perhaps concrete as in soil depletion (hard to see that in the various farms along US 27 or US 19). Atlanta might as well be a suburb of Anywhere USA. The same chains emanating from the NYC takeover of local America dominate the landscape. Evangelical churches as giant muffler shops is a cheap shot — I could point out Chabad in strip centers in New Port Richey Florida. As far as I am concerned Thank God there is still some differentiation of section. Gives some people something to talk about and the rest of us something to ignore.

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    • ozone September 17, 2018 at 9:20 am #

      I can see your point, but it’s very “on defense” in nature.

      IMO, the main thrust is about throwing away a shit-load of resources on making the Carolinas one giant tourist trap and a collection of pleasant-weather themed “communities”. (Some former acquaintances moved to one such place and whine and moan about the difficulties in making friends of their neighbors. Well, shitfire, they don’t care about you, they’re just there for the delightful lack of snow.)

      “As survivors slosh around in the plastic debris in the weeks ahead, and the news media spins out its heartwarming vignettes of rescue and heroism, will there be any awareness of what has actually happened: the very sudden end of a whole regional economy that was a tragic blunder from the get-go?” — JHK

      …And yes, as you point out, I can name a lot of places around this neck of the woods that have the exact same strategy as a basis for their “economies”: “jobs” created to feed, house, sell chachkis to, and clean up after tourists. Pretty stupid and incredibly short-sighted plan, invented by grifters and their political buddies to make piles of cash, whether by tax revenue or “development”. The president of our regional powerhouse NPR station lives in one such community in MA near the NY line and drives to Albany each day. I don’t think he’ll live long enough to get the “big surprise”, but a large horde of his devoted listeners will, and I don’t believe they’ll be too happy about it. Neither will I, but at least I know what to expect from the crumbling facade of prosperity and foolhardy waste.

      This all goes away when the carefree auto-mobility does and it will leave the locals hanging on by the skin of their teeth and no meaningful work to speak of. Then comes de-population and DustBowl-esque desperate wanderings by legions of newly-minted, starveling hoboes. Lots of folks are in the immediate process of cashing out on the pretend piggy-banks of their homes and thinking of moving to where the “cost of living” is cheaper. For Sale signs are appearing everywhere — just where they think they’re going to go is beyond me.

      • Billy Hill September 17, 2018 at 1:42 pm #

        I think our host has somewhat obnoxiously delivered a cartoon.
        For perspective on the storm all those North of the Mason-Dixon line should visit downtown Providence Rhode Island:

        “In 1954, Hurricane Carol flooded downtown Providence with more than 12 feet of water. You can see the effects of the hurricane in the Biltmore lobby, where there is a plaque showing an eight-foot-high water mark. All told, the storm did approximately $200 million in damage.”

        “The 1938 New England Hurricane was one of the deadliest and most destructive hurricanes to ever hit New England, killing 682 people and destroying 57,000 homes across the East Coast. At this site near Canal Walk and on the side of the Old Market House, the Hurricane of September 21st, 1938, historical marker displays the height of the water sea as it tore through Providence. The city was hit especially hard, sweeping summer cottages out to sea. Because of economic difficulties caused by the Great Depression, much of what remained of Providence was looted after the storm was hit (and before the flood waters retreated). The Fox Point Hurricane was finally built after the 1938 and the 1954 hurricanes to avoid such extreme surges from flooding downtown again.”

  81. janet September 16, 2018 at 10:57 pm #

    There should be lamentation about the stumbling drunk, now being considered for the Supreme Court, a drunk who attempted to rape a woman. Because Kavanaugh denies the sexual assault happened, because he has covered up and continues to cover up, law enforcement should do a thorough investigation before Kavanaugh is voted on for the Supreme Court.

    It’s important to take Kavanaugh’s acts into consideration, regardless of when they occurred on his timeline. Judges are the arbiters of right and wrong. If they don’t have a moral code of their own to determine right from wrong, then that’s a problem. It was relevant 30 years ago. It’s relevant today. Supreme Court nominees should be held to a higher standard.

    • FincaInTheMountains September 17, 2018 at 3:00 am #

      So, what made that woman to come public at the last minute with 40-year old accusation?

      Threats? Bribery? Amazing amount of money?

      Well, the Giuliani plan B is still on the table, a much bloodier plan for the Nation, but what does janet care?

  82. BackRowHeckler September 17, 2018 at 9:54 am #

    Spent about 2 weeks without power during the Halloween storm in 2011. Around this small town it wasn’t too bad, people seemed to cope pretty good with the situation; on our street we all cooperated to clear fallen trees across the road with our chainsaws and untangle power and telephone lines. Most of us had portable generators and plenty of fuel so could keep the lights on, but hearing those engines revving all night was a little bit unnerving. What really helped was the town opening up the local High School where hot meals were served and hot showers were made available.

    Further afield tho, specially closer to Hartford, there were problems. People started dying right away; poisoned by burning charcoal inside their apartments, gas stove explosions, faulty kerosene heaters burning up, shootings and stabbings. Day 2 a massive traffic jam off I-91, an estimated 1000 vehicles lined up at the one working gas station in the area precipitated a riot with numerous fist fights and assaults. It continued on like this for the entire 2 weeks.

    Without electrical power it didn’t take long for civilization to begin to unravel. Many people just didn’t know how to take care of themselves; no cash in the house, no food, no way to keep warm, no gas for the car.



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