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We’re reminded this morning by The New York Times, America’s official psychotic fantasy generator, that the Russians are coming (again!) as an ad hoc arm of the committee to re-elect Mr. Trump. You have to ask yourself: Does Mr. Trump actually need their help? His opponents have been self-meddling so diligently that their party now looks like a Frankenstein creature assembled from the spare parts of Herbert Marcuse, Tupac Shakur, Leopold von Sacher-Masoch, and Jame Gumb. Imagine that monster running a government.

If Vlad Putin happened to express an aversion to the idea at an international cocktail party, can you really blame him? Plenty of Americans surely feel the same way. Anyway, the Times’ story never gets around to saying much about the alleged new Russian campaign besides this:

     They have made more creative use of Facebook and other social media. Rather than impersonating Americans as they did in 2016, Russian operatives are working to get Americans to repeat disinformation, the officials said. That strategy gets around social media companies’ rules that prohibit ‘inauthentic speech.’”

Wow, that’s pretty scary! Except when you consider that Americans have done a crackerjack job of mind-fucking themselves with disinformation the past several years, coincidentally via this very The New York Times, a figment machine so demented that it has come to resemble the proverbial crazy aunt locked in the attic. The true wonder is the Times’ poverty of imagination, reviving a tattered cockamamie story that bombed abjectly the first time around. I suppose, in a culture addicted to stupid sequels, they expect Robert Mueller will be called back on-duty to sort this one out like he did so nicely before.

Actually, you could make a credible argument that the vaunted US “Intel Community” is a bigger threat to American life than anything the Russians might do on Facebook. Hence, the good news that Mr. Trump has just appointed Ambassador to Germany, Richard Grenell, to the pivotal job as Director of National Intelligence, a position created in 2004 to supposedly coordinate the farflung activities of seventeen armies of spooks and snoops, lately notorious for feeding disinformation to The New York Times and its “Resistance” media allies. Note: right off the bat, The Washington Post characterized Mr. Grenell as a “partisan propagandist,” seeking to disable him from the get-go. One could reasonably assume that the officers of the seventeen intel agencies will do everything possible to work around Mr. Grenell, but he does have the power to ask questions, and to ask additionally the reason why he isn’t getting straight answers, and then to do something about it. Of course, that’s exactly what the Resistance is afraid of.

It was Mr. Grenell’s predecessor, Joseph Maguire, who fecklessly allowed the “whistleblower,” and that phantom’s enabler, ICIG Michael Atkinson, to play the nation on UkraineGate, a hideously embarrassing episode of engineered political subterfuge that instigated the grave process of impeachment, so that the whole world could see exactly how dishonest we are amongst ourselves — more proof that we don’t need Russia’s help sowing disorder and ignominy in our own country. Mr. Grenell might commence by asking some questions about that caper. There’s so much to dig into at the CIA, FBI, and the NSC after three years of deceitful shenanigans that he’ll need a Bucyrus RH400 hydraulic excavator to get the job done.

The Attorney General sure can use some help. No doubt you saw the circus around the Roger Stone case develop into another Lawfare operation to oust Mr. Barr when a thousand-odd former federal attorneys — including some who signed off falsely on FISA warrants — mobbed up a petition for his resignation. I suspect it only pissed him off and made him more determined to bring cases against some of them. Stone, of course, is a political clown with a weak sense of boundaries who made some legally foolish moves, considering the parlous times. But you can still argue he was treated rather unfairly, since his jury forewoman outed herself as a Resistance activist as soon as the trial concluded and no one, including Judge Amy Berman Jackson, has addressed how that happened.

The General Flynn matter is something else, and goes far deeper into the seditious misuse of US intelligence. Flynn has become the American Dreyfus, an honorable army officer dragged through the muck unjustly by the Intel Community working “six ways from Sunday,” in the immortal words of Senator Chuck Schumer, to prevent its dirty laundry from being aired. His ordeal has gone on for three years and is coming close to climax. The legal devices used to screw General Flynn are known to the public now, including the initial deceitful interrogation by FBI agents Strzok and Pientka, the withholding of exculpatory evidence by his prosecutors (and plenty of other misconduct), and the unethical behavior of his former lawyers from the Swamp firm of Covington and Burling. He’s going to eventually get off this ignoble rap sooner or later, one way or another. Silencing him was probably the key objective in the long train of seditions that I sum up as CoupGate.

It would be best if the federal court itself could clean up the Flynn mess by Judge Emmet Sullivan declaring it a malicious prosecution and throwing out the case, because that would begin to repair the institutional damage. But Mr. Trump might have to pardon him in the end. If he does, I hope he goes on national television and provides a detailed explanation of the aforesaid DOJ misconduct for the public, and I hope he does it from the teleprompter so it will come off clearly and coherently.


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  1. Zoltar February 21, 2020 at 10:18 am #

    I just learned that I need a Bucyrus RH400 hydraulic excavator.

    • ellipsis February 21, 2020 at 10:37 am #

      The bullshit’s that deep now, eh? Might need to add a deep sea diving suit and a copious supply of oxygen to the list as well, just in case.

  2. SW February 21, 2020 at 10:30 am #

    The big-wigs in the DNC watched the debate Wednesday night too and know the chances of them losing in November are very high indeed. So someone other than themselves must be blamed and who better than Russian “trolls” and racist, women hatin’ toxic men, knuckle-draggin’ religious fanatics, and deplorables who don’t realize Michael Bloomberg is smarter than they are? I’m not sure where I read this, but here’s the gist of the quote — people who read the NYT (and take it seriously) believe they’re the only ones fit to run the country. There you have it. They will never, ever face the fact that the Democrats deserted the working class — and that includes white collar workers — and left the door wide open for Trump to walk in.

    After watching the debate I’ve come to the conclusion the DNC is trying to kill Bernie and Joe (or at least hoping they’ll collapse on stage) as there’s yet another debate on the 25th.

    • ellipsis February 21, 2020 at 10:51 am #

      Apparently Bloomy has committed to opening his checkbook to the DNC throughout the Nov election sweepstakes, whether he’s the nominee or not. I take that to mean that he’ll consider it a success even if he only forces a brokered convention, at which point it’s reasonable to conclude that the Wicked Witch of Chappaqua might possibly sweep in for a much anticipated encore performance in Nov, possibly with her/their wealthy benefactor Bloomy riding VP sidecar and lending whatever gravitas to the tawdry affair he might provide. I like that match up purely for its entertainment value alone, if nothing else. Politics being best judged for its spectacle value these days, and all that. Of course I’m old school and still strongly advocate for a proper swimsuit competition and talent contest to decide this thing. I think that’s the least the fat bastards can do for us in return for subjecting us to this interminable death by a million commercials.

      • Beryl of Oyl February 21, 2020 at 11:18 am #

        It almost seems like Bloomberg is only on that stage to take shots at Bernie.
        The rest of the time he stood there like a cigar store Indian while a fake Indian hit him with stuff he had to know was coming. Why hadn’t he done any debate preparation?

        • King of Comedy February 21, 2020 at 12:15 pm #

          Especially when there are factual rebuttals to the attacks Bloomberg faced.

          Stop and frisk does seem to have been excessive in its execution but the simple factual reality is that roughly 90% of murders and 85% of rapes in NYC were committed by black or brown males. Those statistics according to the published NYPD Crime and Enforcement Activity Reports have been consistent from 2008 through the present. Stopping and frisking Swedish-looking people would have been somewhat pointless given those statistics.

          On the NDAs, there are evidently 40 discrimination cases of one sort or another from 1996-2016. In a company of 20,000 employees, that’s almost background noise. You literally cannot please all the people all the time in a group of 20 let alone 20,000.

          Bloomberg’s lack of preparedness not his record makes him suspect…

          • hmuller February 21, 2020 at 12:33 pm #

            You would think someone who spent 400 million dollars on TV ads could spend a little on a decent debate coach., Pitiful.

          • lbs February 21, 2020 at 1:14 pm #

            Just because there may be legitimate rebuttals Bloomberg could use doesn’t mean they would help him. Not in the world of today’s psychotic Democratic Party.

          • 4014HAMPHEDGE February 21, 2020 at 1:27 pm #

            Or a savvy & wise man, an astute negotiator showing well planned silence so as to let Warren in particular get some better numbers. Warren as Bloomberg’s VP in a brokered convention?

            A greater concern for al hands may be considering increasing possibility of False Flag events. PDRK, Russia and now China have leadership inclined to divert attention from their failings. Another source has China deploying numerous mobile high temperature incinerators in urban areas, purportedly to burn garbage, etc.

            Mobile incineration units appearing out of nowhere in very large numbers tell me China has made preparations with a longer view, to make easier the messy task of expediting removal of corpses after effecting an occupation? This whole business of Geopolitics is now slipping into zombieland, so use of high intensity ovens to dispose of unwanted populations is not a new idea… Testing equipment, methods & procedures, O inscrutable ones?

            USA homeland experience with false flag events begs attention to Famine Hedge, inasmuch as even limited sabotage of the grid can cascade into a large scale transportation/food distribution crisis. A large number of political hacks hitching their stars to Clinton Era (See Ahab & Jezebel narrative in Biblical 2Kings) establishment, with brains in a few covert agencies going too far, and things get out of hand in a kinetic way.

            A constant reminder here; please all hands give William Forstchen’s “ONE SECOND AFTER” narrative on the grid breakdown scenario. Chairman Chi read Forstchen’s book. Kind of lonely, but not altogether alone on these pages, sincere & well founded urgings to rehab the food district branch rail lines. A small percentage of those electronic wealth caches used for rail line sponsorships by a few dozen US Billionaires would be an existential level activity. Moreover you would have fun doing work with parallel bar railway, actually rebuilding America, girls & boys with bucks…

          • outsider February 21, 2020 at 2:24 pm #

            Pat Buchanan’s column today asked why Bloomberg’s highly paid staff even allowed him to debate. Did they warn him against it, at least? They should have known that he was going to get shot after shot thrown at him by the likes of the ever shrill and ghastly E. Warren. When it comes to a quick retort, he’s no Trump to say the least.

            Self-immolating debates are no way to assess the qualifications of a candidate anyway. Give each of the top candidates a half-hour of free time, without commercials, to make their case. This is what Bloomberg, sans the free time, should do, as did Ross Perot in ’92. But now that’s he’s made the mistake of entering that disastrous debate, it is no doubt too late to jettison the rest of them.

          • hmuller February 22, 2020 at 11:55 pm #

            I almost felt sorry for Bloomberg as Elizabeth Warren wasted no time at the outset wielding her tomahawk to scalp the little man. The former Mayor and his people haven’t seen anything like Warren since Ilse Koch (The Bitch of Buchenwald) started her lampshade business.

        • SW February 21, 2020 at 12:43 pm #

          A friend’s son works for Bloomberg and passed up a chance to get a master’s degree overseas and stayed in NY instead and attended night school. Why? Because if he quit his job he would never have been rehired. He considers anyone who quits automatically “the enemy” and disloyal — company policy. His distain and arrogance was on full display and not all the ads in the world with Obama reading from a script are going to get him elected. The South Carolina debate may make his wish he’d never left his penthouse.

          • abbybwood February 23, 2020 at 11:06 pm #

            Not sure what will happen in South Carolina with 60% of the vote by Black Americans. Black Americans who are predominately Christian, as is Buttigieg. Biden too I think. South Carolina is Biden’s “firewall”. I doubt his recent pronouncement that he was arrested in South Africa “back in the day” while trying to visit Nelson Mandela in prison (nobody remembers this) will do much for him now. (Pander much Joe?).

            Will the majority of that population care more about workers finally getting a fair shake, about all Americans having Medicare instead of just the 65 and up crowd? Which will mean no more bankruptcies due to medical bills. No more sticking with jobs one hates to avoid losing medical benefits (even benefits one can not afford to use!), no more not moving to another state for fear of losing medical benefits.

            College/trade schools now truly affordable with President Sanders. No more wars of imperialism/regime changes?!

            A lot to chew on for a South Carolina voter. Black, White or Tan.

            I hope they decide to vote for the Jewish guy with the righteous policies rather than the others who will talk some of the talk but who will never walk the walk. “Christians” or not.

    • K-Dog February 21, 2020 at 11:48 am #

      They will never, ever face the fact that the Democrats deserted the working class — and that includes white collar workers — and left the door wide open for Trump to walk in

      I agree.

      If we don’t get Bernie in. The oligarchy is going to go for the gold.

      • K-Dog February 21, 2020 at 11:55 am #

        Medicare SSI, kiss it goodbye. He could not do it his first term but as a lame duck with a mandate the true anal rape of the middle class can begin. Trump’s golden reflection from his pond of vanities shows a smile. He sees himself the founder of the capital city of Panem and all its elite horrors. His challenge, to make the fiction of literature and the big screen real.

        • hmuller February 21, 2020 at 12:37 pm #

          The trouble with Bernie supporters is they think the Khmer Rouge were too gentle.

          • SW February 21, 2020 at 12:56 pm #

            I’m a Bernie supporter b/c I know how desperately we need universal health care. Even if he gets elected our health care system may be unfixable. The profit motive is now so deeply entrenched and employs so many people to keep it going, it may not possible to transition. But I think we have to try.

            It wouldn’t surprise me if the DNC was behind the so-called Bernie Bros on the internet. And Mayor of Insignificant Backwater Pete stating that Bernie was “inspiring” attacks is below the belt.

          • draupnir February 21, 2020 at 12:58 pm #

            “Socialism–that’s what it’s about,”
            Said a voter, who was deep in doubt.
            “You can vote it in,
            It’s easy as sin,
            But you have to shoot your way out.”

      • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 12:59 pm #

        Bernie was called a Communist on stage and was outraged. But where is the proof he ever renounced this evil? As you know, Communism has never renounced violence and Project Veritas uncovered the rage festering underneath the surface in the Sanders campaign.

        • MoleMan February 22, 2020 at 12:04 pm #

          Hmm. You ever picked up that turtle, Project Veritas, and looked at its belly? Project Create the Veritas You Want to See in the World.

          • hmuller February 22, 2020 at 12:12 pm #

            Everyone is biased. For example, our adversarial justice system is founded on two opposing sides presenting biased, twisted versions of the facts. It is presumed this leads to TRUTH. Yes, really.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 1:00 pm #

        And that includes Whites.

        • SW February 21, 2020 at 1:15 pm #

          There is a lot of rage in this country but not it doesn’t mean everyone who wants to see reform in the health care system (which is Bernie’s primary platform and always has been) is a socialist or violent.

          Is Jeff Bezos a socialist b/c he requires cities to vie for his fulfillment centers with huge tax breaks? Isn’t that taxpayer money for the enrichment of multibillionaires? As a taxpayer, I’d like to see free/low-cost clinics for everyone. Most doctor visits are very routine but are now out of reach for many. And, yes, people are angry that this basic service is a financial stress.

          • BackRowHeckler February 21, 2020 at 1:44 pm #

            Those low cost clinics you mention SW is an idea whose time has come. You see more and more of them, staffed by PAs and RNs, which is probably sufficient to meet most people’s medical needs. Anything real serious can be referred to an MD specialist. CVS and Aetna Insurance are teaming up to build such clinics.

            Brh

    • abbybwood February 22, 2020 at 3:00 pm #

      Apparently Biden’s supporters are drifting to Mayor Cheat.

      After South Carolina we can stick a fork in Mayor Cheat, he’ll be done.

    • xxzzy999 February 23, 2020 at 2:17 pm #

      Bloomberg is entering the race for Hillary, and he doesn’t intend to win. His entry will help split the delegate vote at the Democrat Convention in July to help ensure no candidate has a 51% majority, thus forcing a brokered convention. Bloomberg is merely acting as the Man Behind the Curtain as in “The Wizard of OZ”. At some point Hillary will have entered the race and with the party bosses’ help and the Super Delegates 2nd round vote at the convention, she walks away with the nomination again.

      The primaries/caucuses and the convention is not necessarily a “fair” process, it’s how a “political machine” works their convention to deliver what the political bosses believe to be their best candidate to beat the rival party’s candidate.

      There is NO WAY the Democrat Party allows Bernie Sanders to be the Democrat nominee… just as in the 2016 Democrat Convention. Don’t kid yourself, the Clinton political machinery is still very much in control of the DNC and the Democrat Party.

      Also, Hillary is releasing her HULU biography during/right after Super Tuesday.

      • abbybwood February 23, 2020 at 11:15 pm #

        And Hillary will lose again.

        Only this time with a landslide of electoral votes for Trump, delivered to him by all the screwed Sanders supporters.

        Bring it on! What better way than to screw Bloomberg, Clinton and the DNC! Re-elect Orange Man Bad in a landslide!

        Works for me!

  3. malthuss February 21, 2020 at 10:30 am #

    I wonder about USA and World ‘economy’ [or uneconomy as Irv Schiff called it] and about Corona [not the beer].

    • ellipsis February 21, 2020 at 10:56 am #

      Gail Tverberg (a professional actuary), for one, views the economic aspects of it to be by far the greatest threat. It’s quite contagious, but so far at least, not all that deadly. Hysteria and overreaction might be its greatest threat.

      https://ourfiniteworld.com/2020/01/29/it-is-easy-to-overreact-to-the-chinese-coronavirus/

      • ellipsis February 21, 2020 at 10:57 am #

        Can’t speak to the beer, though. Been a while since I had it, but I never found Corona all that enticing. Basically just Mexican Budweiser.

        • BackRowHeckler February 21, 2020 at 11:50 am #

          Served cold tho, I mean iced cold on a steaming hot day, Corona is unbeatable.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 1:02 pm #

            That’s hard on your kidneys. On a hot day, you should drink hot fluids. Your Beer should be hot, steaming like Tea.

      • malthuss February 21, 2020 at 11:17 am #

        If Gail was dying from CV, she d have a different opinion of it.

        • ellipsis February 21, 2020 at 12:08 pm #

          Probably, but from a societal perspective you have to view it like that. Mass contagion is increasingly appearing to be inevitable regardless of protective measures. The fatalities are highly concentrated among elderly Chinese men in poor respiratory health thus far, so most Americans should be fine.

          • draupnir February 21, 2020 at 1:20 pm #

            Yesterday, I read that forty industrial incinerators, each over 20 feet long, are being moved into Wuhan. They say it is for medical waste, which might be true, depending on what is defined as medical waste. For weeks, though the air pollution over most of China has been decreasing, there are large plumes of So2, that can be seen from space, floating over Wuhan and also a city to the west. This is indicative of the burning of organic material, and a lot of it. Today, it was announced that they are going to build another 19 of those splap-dash hospitals in Wuhan. They’re supposed to let the WHO into Wuhan tomorrow. I have my doubts.

            Contemplate for a moment that we really have no idea what the true mortality/morbidity rate is, considering the notorious distortion of truth for which the Chinese are known. Now there are reports of those who recovered from their infection becoming ill again and presenting with either new infection or possibly relapse.

            Watch what they do, not what they say.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 2:14 pm #

            And yet you want unlimited Chinese immigration into New Zealand, right?

            Only the Maori have the right to say No – but as with their history of genociding the Native Red Heads, they’re not listened to.

            Your admiration of them very selective…..

          • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 2:16 pm #

            oops, that’s for Maj not either of you two. Apologies.

          • outsider February 21, 2020 at 2:39 pm #

            In fact it only seems to kill Asians, which is very suspicious to me. My question is, will the Tokyo Olympics still be held?

          • BackRowHeckler February 21, 2020 at 2:43 pm #

            I think there will be unlimited Chinese immigration into New Zealand whether Maj wants it or not. 300-400 hundred million sounds about right. Yeah, China has had its eye on that island of round eyes for a long time. Let me ask you, who’s going to stop it?

            Brh

          • Majella February 21, 2020 at 4:09 pm #

            Draupnir

            Some 2 weeks ago now, Steve Bannon (not my go to guy for anything really) screened an interview with a Chinese National whom Bannon rated as consistently credible.

            Back then, he stated that the infection number exceeded 1.5 million and that deaths were over 50,000. He also reported that the 127(???) crematoria in Wuhan were going 24/7.

          • Majella February 21, 2020 at 4:17 pm #

            Skorenzy;

            ‘ And yet you want unlimited Chinese immigration into New Zealand, right?

            Only the Maori have the right to say No – but as with their history of genociding the Native Red Heads, they’re not listened to.’

            And THAT particularly toxic diatribe was apropos of what comment I’ve made?

            Besides being your usual ragingly impotent anger-ejaculation, please point to;

            > where I’ve ever stated that I want unlimited Chinese immigartion?

            > where you conjured up the idea that only Maori ’have the right to say Not

            > the source for your claim of ‘genociding the Native Red Heads’ – not the Urban Dictionary again, I trust.

            You remain so ignorant and yet so full of bullshit opinions. It’s breathtaking.

          • Majella February 21, 2020 at 4:24 pm #

            Marlin, don’t play in Skorenzy’s cesspit of ignorance like that…

            Firstly, Aotearoa New Zealand consists of three main islands, not 1.

            Secondly, it’s pretty small (smaller than California) and much of it’s not particularly habitable. 300-400 million? The vast Australian continent has an optimal carrying capacity of around 16 million, based on water resources, current pop. is 24 million. ANZ could not support 300 million, even at poverty/subsistence levels.

          • Epicur February 21, 2020 at 4:45 pm #

            @ outsider 2:39

            Last week John Derbyshire, whose wife is native born Chinese, reported that she told him the Chinese blogs are buzzing with the idea that the USA sent them the virus.

            If the CCP is looking for a scapegoat that will be a good line to push, although probably not publicly.

          • draupnir February 21, 2020 at 5:56 pm #

            Epicur

            Cuba has accused us more than once of introducing insect pests to attack their crops, among other things. We really are the evil empire. So it’s not out of the range of probability, but they have a level 4 biocontainment lab just outside of Wuhan. This has already been the source of the escape of SARS four times as well as one release of smallpox in the recent past. They either have a containment issue, a procedural issue or a staff issue.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 6:08 pm #

            Maj: https://atlanteangardens.blogspot.com/2014/07/maori-legend-blonde-mummies-of-south.html

            Note the mummified head – one of eleven. Almost certainly these heads would prove to be of Europid ancestry if tested. Is that the reason for the lack of alacrity is so doing?

            Just google “red headed or haired Maoris”. The amount of material is overwhelming. Try youtube as well – there are still a few Maori/Paheka redheads left and they are willing to speak on camera.

            Your friends hunted the red heads down as game. Nice, huh?

          • Majella February 22, 2020 at 4:57 am #

            Skorenzy

            Firstly, interesting that the first point of the article reflected exactly what I pointed out when replying to your Urban Dictionary sourced ‘wisdom’ of a few weeks ago. Your retraction of that bullshit is accepted without any actual acknowledgement expected.

            Secondly, the article then goes on to speculate on several diverse themes – that the mythical Patupaiarehe of Maori lore were real – but who can know? There’s no proof either way, and given they were purportedly ‘little’ and forest dwellers, it seems more plausible that they were imagined than real.

            The idea that Maori who arrived from the northern islands, (most likely Rarotonga) did not have netting technology and that the little white-skinned (blue in the illustrations supplied) taught them this method, is just absurd.

            https://spccfpstore1.blob.core.windows.net/digitallibrary-docs/files/42/42babb27f628de35f958e93688b63599.pdf?sv=2015-12-11&sr=b&sig=mjB2MkWZuaJN%2Fy0WB3KVhaq8s%2FwZNj%2FNT44%2Fx3VM3f8%3D&se=2020-08-20T09%3A23%3A44Z&sp=r&rscc=public%2C%20max-age%3D864000%2C%20max-stale%3D86400&rsct=application%2Fpdf&rscd=inline%3B%20filename%3D%22TRAD4_12_Lieber.pdf%22

            Then it turns out your learned source heads well west to the Aryan asians, then to the Basque & Berbers, then to Atlantis/Atlantica. There’s some unsubstantiated references to Cro-Magnon man, and this may all be so, but in the absence of peer-reviews scientific evidence, any connection is vague, to say the least.

            (I fully expect you’ll try the ‘science is keeping all these facts suppressed!’ argument, right? The best response to that is “why?”

            The distraction in the article of an image of a British sailor, John Rutherford, sporting traditional ‘moko’ (being the facial markings) is entirely lacking in either context or import.

            The video speaks of how highly respected the Patupaiarehe were held, yet the text says they were hunted to extinction by the cannibalistic Polynesian/Melanesian invaders. I won’t even bother going into the difference between Poly & Mela somatotypes.The mythical red-haired ‘giants’ don’t get another mention other than the original reference, in either the article or the video.

            Then it turns out your ‘learned source’ is in the school of belief that holds there are subterranean environments – I guess like the Hollow Earth theory, supposedly pursued by the addle-brained NAZI elite? I guess that would make sense in your case.

            All in all, I found this more useful in understanding your own megalomaniacal derangement than anything else, so thanks, sort of. I continue to pity you…you’ve got yourself into a bizarre and life-sapping belief system from which you’ll never emerge.

            Clearly, you’ll live this miserable deluded existence for your remaining days, seething in frustration and anger. Blame your Jesuit tormentors of your formative years. Who knows what horrors you had to endure to become so fucked up.

            Given the apparent average age of our ‘community’ you’re probably not that young so your relief will come soon enough.

        • abbybwood February 23, 2020 at 11:24 pm #

          Cannot be pleasant to die from pneumonia drowning in your own pulmonary corona excretions.

          Especially considering that “if” you survive you can get it again a few weeks later! And give it to your entire family and friends and community just by going to the bank, grocery store, Home Depot, pump some gas…etc.

          Hey James?! Could this be that Black Swan event you have been mentioning for a while?

          We are in the middle of Los Angeles right now and are petrified thinking of six months from now.

          • Epicur February 24, 2020 at 9:33 am #

            “We are in the middle of Los Angeles right now and are petrified thinking of six months from now.”

            Six months from now is August – the sun will be high in the sky and most people in LA will have plenty of vitamin D in their system so the local infection rate will PROBABLY be minimal.

            Worry more about a month from now and ten months from now.

  4. doggersize February 21, 2020 at 10:46 am #

    Matt Taibbi claimed Russia is not even in the top ten of foreign countries that influence American elections. But they are not doing it right! You are supposed to channel a lot of money into lobbyists, think tanks, PACs, and the odd philanthropic organization.

    Russian entities just make up stupid shit and let semi-literate Americans share it with each other on Facebook and Twitter. That is Cheating! They are not doing it right! They are screwing up the game!

    • ellipsis February 21, 2020 at 10:59 am #

      We’ve apparently now entered the post-paranoid phase of our collective mental and political breakdown.

    • King of Comedy February 21, 2020 at 11:49 am #

      Entities like the NYT on balance probably had more to do with the election of Trump than the Russians could ever hope to. Things like the comic-book revisionism of the 1619 Project have a tendency to push even middle-of-the-roaders toward someone who at least on appearances is standing up for their culture, not to mention for a factual account of history. Make no mistake, Trump is the white grievance candidate but it’s only fair after all. The irony is that those who for decades have promulgated the Victim Olympics™ are now shocked to find that whitey has also fielded a team. As the saying goes, sow the wind…

      The white flagellant crowd as exemplified by some at the NYT is actually a testament to how great a force for human advancement Western Civilization and all those dastardly white males have been. I get why the POC lobby is all about trying to minimize the accomplishments of the aforementioned demographic. When your culture hasn’t exactly hit the civilization lottery, the natural inclination is to try to tear down one that has. But the melanin-challenged woke with their guilt and self-loathing are a phenomenon unprecedented in human history because times have never been so good and resources never so abundant for a culture to denigrate the very people who have created those good times and that abundance in the first place. It’s a completely artificial situation and as the world increasingly reverts back to its innate tribalism, prospects for the woke don’t look very promising.

      • JMR February 21, 2020 at 12:08 pm #

        Well said!

      • volodya February 21, 2020 at 12:40 pm #

        Great post.

      • ellipsis February 21, 2020 at 12:46 pm #

        Thirded!

      • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 1:06 pm #

        And remember, people like Bloomberg and the staff of the New York Times look White, but don’t identify as such. They’re the creators, funders, and disseminators of the non-melanin challenged Grievance Alliance against the White Man and his Civilization.

        • King of Comedy February 21, 2020 at 1:29 pm #

          No thanks. Not interested in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion nonsense. Most of those who pushed Western Civilization forward were white, no doubt, which was the point of my post but there were others along the way from “outside” that group, many of them Jews, who did the same.

          On top of that, it’s anecdotal but most of the white flagellants I’ve come across have been pretty far from Jewish. They’re very similar to the der Stormer crowd in one respect: I wouldn’t touch either with a ten foot pole.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 1:41 pm #

            Well yeah, exactly – the Tribe doesn’t self flagellate, but rather encourages or forces Whites to do it.

            Thank you for agreeing with me despite yourself.

        • King of Comedy February 22, 2020 at 10:49 am #

          Hmmm.. “encourages of forces Whites to do it”.

          That sounds much like “systemic racism” or “oppression” encouraging or forcing black folks to kill each other in Antietam-like numbers.

          Or the Russians encouraging or forcing the deplorables to vote for Trump.

          Holy shit! Is this Elizabeth Warren?

      • WayfaringStranger February 21, 2020 at 3:28 pm #

        O fer fuck’s sake. The so-called self-hating woke, white people are really just self-preserving elites. Bogarting the mic. They most certainly do not hate themselves. They spent the vast majority of their time and platforms accusing others and aking sure the voices of rebellion and dissent from the “marginalized populations” are their own.
        Mega-corporations do woke shit to keep any potential shifts in the market cornered. Staying out in front of the trends before most people even know they’re trends. The data showed that hipsters preferred to purchase products and services that had “meaning” baked in. So it’s not just a purchase but also counts as a tithe in the offering plate. Make a smug self-righteous difference and save the planet via your shoe purchase, or the hummus you buy. If you want to get really tough, you prohibit others from making purchases they’d like to buy. The revolution will not be televised because the revolution is fake. As fake as John McCain. The fake revolution will be televised.
        The most well-known front man of Black Lives Matter is a white guy. What else does anyone need to know.

        • Nightowl February 22, 2020 at 3:55 am #

          Welcome to the McResistance. Have a Pepsi.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwvAgDCOdU4

        • King of Comedy February 22, 2020 at 10:44 am #

          Does what used to be called “Madison Avenue” co-opt movements to turn a buck off the lemmings following along? No doubt. Nike, the most virtue-signaling of the virtue-signaling, comes immediately to mind. If by “elites” you’re referring to that aspect of the good old USA, I’m all in. The bleating crowd below that rarefied stratum though seems quite a different animal to me. Actively working to undermine your position and debase your history is one helluva strategy for self-preservation. It is in the same vein of that saying apocryphally attributed to any number of commie dustbin of history types about selling the rope they hang you with.

          • Nightowl February 22, 2020 at 11:53 am #

            I think the greater point is why does the McResistance gobble up anti-Trump news from the McMedia, the CIA, etc.?

            Normally the left is fairly critical of the corporate media, our intelligence services, and of corporate buck-turning off of social movements. Yet with Trump, it all goes out the window.

            I still consider myself on the left and I can no longer even discuss politics with most of my “like-minded” friends.

            There is a reason the NPC meme is so effective.

      • doggersize February 22, 2020 at 11:20 am #

        I’ve worked with African immigrants who are not worried about expressing harsh opinions of lower class african americans. in the absence of extremely racist whites, most asians and hispanics are not very impressed with african americans either.

        • SpeedyBB February 23, 2020 at 11:52 am #

          Your comment about “…not very impressed…” reminded me of the Watts riots, when Korean-American shopkeepers sat on their roofs, armed with shotguns.

          They did not get looted.

  5. K-Dog February 21, 2020 at 10:57 am #

    If he does, I hope he goes on national television and provides a detailed explanation of the aforesaid DOJ misconduct for the public, and I hope he does it from the teleprompter so it will come off clearly and coherently.

    Are you kidding, you have to be. The last thing big orange wants is clarity and coherence. That could lead to questions about using Giuliani to spread his own fake news about the Bidens, his tax returns and all the Russian help he has had as they tried and get their patsy in the White House. The first Term Orange had to maintain the theatrics but mostly its all about getting ready for the second term when the anal rape of the middle class can begin in earnest.

    • ellipsis February 21, 2020 at 11:03 am #

      I heard he was stumbling pretty badly through his speech the other night, although with Trump coherence is always judged on a massively handicapped sliding scale. He’s our (sometimes almost) lovable Lord Falstaff in Chief.

      • K-Dog February 21, 2020 at 12:20 pm #

        Saying a good movie is shit was not a good move. “Parasite” is a great movie. I have seen it.

        Snowpiercer also rocked.

        Trumps performance was:

        Il Duce on valium.

        • JohnAZ February 21, 2020 at 12:44 pm #

          You misinterpreted his statement. He did not call Parasite a bad movie at all. He just wonders why the wokesterism of Hollywood is against American movies.

          And Brad Pitt, if these egomaniacs in Hollywood would just keep their political pie holes shut, they would not get Trumpian feedback. Until then, GGG give them hell.

        • BackRowHeckler February 21, 2020 at 2:01 pm #

          Better than The joker?

          Better than 1917?

          • toktomi February 21, 2020 at 10:47 pm #

            @BackRowHeckler

            more mediocrity and in the case of joker, mixed with cinematic tripe of a nauseating variety

            ~toktomi~

        • Tate February 21, 2020 at 2:53 pm #

          We just saw Parasite. Can we please have our $4.29 back, Netflix? How can abnormal behavior at all levels not raise an eyebrow? Have the Koreans become that Americanized? Maybe that’s why it won the Oscar… Please.

          Of course, the Academy awards is not exactly viewers’ choice. The folks who pick the winners are as bizarre as they come.

        • toktomi February 21, 2020 at 10:44 pm #

          @K-Dog

          I took two runs at “Parasite”.

          On the first run I ran out of steam from boredom and it was beginning to get ornery.

          Then, I saw that it was nominated.

          So, on the second run I ran smack! into such ruthless, vicious behavior that I just couldn’t look anymore – too painful to watch.

          One of worst pieces of cinematic crap that I’ve ever witnessed would be the most glowing evaluation that could offer up for it.

          ~toktomi~

      • K-Dog February 21, 2020 at 12:34 pm #

        Beyond stumbling:


        we have ended the war
        in American energy there was a war and
        we’re up here and we’re doing it we are
        right now energy independent can you
        believe they want to use wind wind wind
        blow wind please please blow please
        please keep the birds away from those
        windmills please tell those beautiful
        bald eagles don’t know a bald eagle you
        know if you shoot a bald eagle they put
        you in jail for a long time but the
        windmills knock them out like crazy it’s
        so and I think they have a rule after a
        certain number are killed you have to
        close down the windmill

        • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 1:09 pm #

          That’s beautiful Spoken Word Poetry. You really need your head examined, dude.

          No one can go off script like Trump. I hate his guts but I have to give him credit as a Great Magician, beyond even what Obama was for your side.

          • K-Dog February 21, 2020 at 1:51 pm #

            Dude, it is a stump speech. Your praise would have merit if it was a one-off but I have heard it before. I think this was the third time I have heard it. Trump is a one trick pony who has oral diarrhea which rhymes with poetry. It is his only talent. But he is viper quick with it.

          • toktomi February 21, 2020 at 10:53 pm #

            @Janos Skorenzy

            What’s to hate?

            I can’t stand to look at his image, but I can’t imagine how any of these powerless political creatures could be hate worthy.

            It is all childish nonsense in a sea of lies.

            Why pretend that any of it is real?

            ~toktomi~

        • JohnAZ February 21, 2020 at 1:10 pm #

          Complain all you want about his method of verbalizing

          He got through to enough folks to get elected.

          His predecessor, a vaunted verbalist, never communicated as openly and honestly as GGG does. Or got as much done for the progress of the country. I remember the press bitching about Obama not communicating enough with them, now complaining that Trump talks too much.

          Maybe it is the MSM that is insane here.

          • K-Dog February 21, 2020 at 1:54 pm #

            Complain all you want about his method of verbalizing

            He got through to enough folks to get elected.

            Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

            Not that I was ever fooled about Trump. I’ve watched him for 40 years. His speech last night shows the man to be as empty as I always thought he was.

          • JohnAZ February 21, 2020 at 2:39 pm #

            Did you dislike him when he was being courted by the Democrats?

          • doggersize February 22, 2020 at 11:23 am #

            Trump is not honest. he is merely blunt. his followers like him because he is loud, aggressive, and mostly just makes stuff up. By supporting him, they can do that vicariously. They can be vicarious presidents, vicarious tv game show hosts, vicarious billionaiers. And they can pretend they are Getting Even with everyone they are aggravated by.

        • Nightowl February 21, 2020 at 2:40 pm #

          Here it is with TDS mode switched off.

          “We have ended the war
          in American energy. There was a war and
          we’re up here and we’re doing it. We are
          right now energy independent.

          Can you believe they want to use wind, wind, wind,
          — blow wind! Please, please, blow! Please,
          please, keep the birds away from those
          windmills! Please tell those beautiful
          bald eagles!

          Don’t know … a bald eagle … you know, if you shoot a bald eagle, they put you in jail for a long time; but the
          windmills knock them out like crazy. It’s so ….

          And I think they have a rule: after a certain number are killed, you have to close down the windmill ….”

          Looks perfectly fine for an off-the-cuff bit of oration.

    • hmuller February 21, 2020 at 12:43 pm #

      K-Dog, The Bidens are corrupt; Trump is not Putin’s puppet, the middle class has been raped long before Trump by the globalists and deep state (who hate Trump). Your bias and delusions are now clearly on display.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 1:11 pm #

        Trump is a globalist too – he said as much. And he intends to continue the rape of America by “legally” brining in more and more skilled and unskilled labor from abroad. Your bias (in favor of Trump) and delusions are now clearly on display.

        • lbs February 21, 2020 at 1:23 pm #

          Your point illustrates the bizarre reality of today’s politics. There’s a lot Trump deserves criticism for, but none of it is the nonsense that his psychotic critics complain about..

          • K-Dog February 21, 2020 at 1:56 pm #

            What about his critics that are not psychotic?

        • JohnAZ February 21, 2020 at 2:38 pm #

          And your bias (against Trump) and delusions are also now clearly on display.

        • Nightowl February 21, 2020 at 2:56 pm #

          He said the exact opposite in reality, and openly rejects globalism.

          The idea that we should have no immigration is absurd.

          • cbeard February 21, 2020 at 4:05 pm #

            Heard this morning that Chief of Staff Mulvaney says U.S. is desperate for more legal immigrants. True Americans should be desperate for a moratorium and deportations. Still preaching growth. Growth in population and economics both are impossible to sustain. We need to find a way to stabilize the economy and population instead of growing ourselves to death. Trump himself has stated that we need more legal immigrants. I wish we had someone to vote for who has some modicum of common sense.

      • doggersize February 22, 2020 at 11:26 am #

        the Bidens are conventional. The Biden Kid is a trained lawyer and experienced in business and government. Lots of trained lawyers work for lots of organizations and are paid a few ten grand a month.

        • hmuller February 22, 2020 at 5:03 pm #

          No sweetheart deals here, folks. No, nothing to see here, move it along, please. Just a drug addicted looser-lawyer getting paid shitloads of money for no work because of his name. Typical Washington stuff. No, nothing to see here.

    • Majella February 21, 2020 at 4:28 pm #

      K-Dog

      When I read that last line, my first thought was “surely he forgot to edit that one out? Soooo not JHK .”

    • JackStraw February 21, 2020 at 5:24 pm #

      You really should seek help, as you have one of the most serious cases of TDS I’ve ever seen. You even lack the ability to form a cohesive thought before you vomit all that hate all over your keyboard.

      Maybe, you should stick to the Democratic Underground where you and the rest of the uneducated dolts can all bleat back and forth at each other.

      Finally, get a job or something, because it appears all you have to do is sit around and bitch all day on this “forum”.

      • Majella February 21, 2020 at 5:54 pm #

        Go fuck yourself. As an example of lacking cohesive thought, sitting around all day spewing hatred, you get the Presidential Medal of Fuckwittery.

        • Majella February 22, 2020 at 5:05 am #

          I misread the handle, and thought it was Skorenzy.

          Having said that, you can still go fuck yourself.

      • malthuss February 22, 2020 at 12:18 am #

        thanks

      • Majella February 23, 2020 at 6:12 pm #

        Jack Straw

        I am actually wondering who, in fact, that rant was aimed at…possibly not me. Even if not, I still stand by the response.

  6. Beryl of Oyl February 21, 2020 at 11:04 am #

    Bernie himself went and repeated some foolishness from Hillary’s Russians plot, at the last debate.
    Questions finally came up about his supporters threats of violence, and he suggested it could be the Russians again.

    “All of us remember 2016, and what we remember is efforts by Russians and others to try to interfere in our elections and divide us up,” said the senator from Vermont. “I’m not saying that’s happening, but it would not shock me.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/20/sanders-implies-russia-not-his-supporters-may-be-blame-online-vitriol-experts-arent-so-sure/

    No Bernie, I remember 2016 quite well, but I don’t remember that part about Russian interference at all.

    • ellipsis February 21, 2020 at 11:10 am #

      Wow! He’s evidently gone all in and sold his soul to the party of lies. A sign of even greater things to come, no doubt. Soft peddling it like that doesn’t make it any better either.

    • neon sky February 21, 2020 at 11:11 am #

      I feel disenfranchised.

  7. Beryl of Oyl February 21, 2020 at 11:07 am #

    Speaking of remembering, I think I remember Mr. Kunstler writing about Ukraine and related issues, well before Donald Trump came down the escalator.
    I also think I remember commenters showing up to try to get him to stop writing about it.

    • Nightowl February 21, 2020 at 3:03 pm #

      I didn’t read the blog back then, though I did have many of JHKs books at home.

      It would not surprise me if many of those commenters are the same ones spiraling at present. The Ukraine was a centerpiece of Obama and Clinton’s neoliberal foreign policy. It is quite staggering how many were duped.

      For that same segment of people, I could probably, with no prior knowledge, say what their positions were on a variety of issues over the past 20 years with at least 90 percent accuracy.

      All one has to do is look at the narratives the McMedia was pushing at any given point in time.

      Nothing has changed.

  8. Beryl of Oyl February 21, 2020 at 11:13 am #

    I’m not keeping up with my reading habit at all this winter, but I did read two books from the memoir genre this month, and both contained gratuitous attacks on President Trump.
    It almost seems like you need that to get published these days.

    It could be like East Germany before the wall came down. The ‘authorities’ didn’t have to enticeGermans to denounce their neighbors, they just did it.

    • malthuss February 21, 2020 at 11:16 am #

      need research grants? do research on climate change.

      • JohnAZ February 21, 2020 at 12:38 pm #

        Malthuss

        Climate change

        Maybe the reaction of the planet to human population overgrowth, both in numbers and technology.

        This planet has many ways of dealing with over zealous species. Disease and warfare have always been in the forefront. Warfare is obsolete as there are no winners anymore.

        SARS, Corona19, HIV, drug resistant bacteria, more virulent influenza and even extended length rhinoviruses may be an indication that Mother Nature has Homo Sapiens in her sights.

        Overcrowding seems to be the common cause of a lot of these disease outbreaks. Just like any other species on earth.

        Consider that this may not be human created.

        • BackRowHeckler February 21, 2020 at 1:27 pm #

          It was 8°F here this morning.

          I know, I know, the world is on fire.

          Brh

        • BackRowHeckler February 21, 2020 at 1:36 pm #

          JAZ

          The wasn’t much crowding in Europe in 1348 when bubonic plague wiped out 1/3 of the population. It has to be some other cause.

          • JohnAZ February 21, 2020 at 2:34 pm #

            Yes there was.

            The Medieval model was agrarian, Nobles and serfs. By the late Middle Ages, improvements in agriculture increased productivity so serfs were not as necessary. Displaced serfs went to the newly created cities in great numbers, increasing urban populations greatly. (Sound familiar?). Europe’s urban technology was infantile at the time, sewage was handled by tossing the pot out the window. Anyway, Europe was becoming urbanized and overpopulated. The Church was still running the show.

            Then the Black Death hit. It came from the Orient over the Silk Road. The lack of sanitation and cats at the time made Europe a hot bed for a rat carried flea vector disease.

            The surprise was once the excess population disappeared, Europe flourished. The Renaissance and Reformation both happened when folks figured out that the Church had no power at all over the plague. The next big surge on population in the 1400 and 1500s was taken care of by moving folks to the Americas. BTW, the overpopulation of the Americas was avoided by the native population getting wiped out by small pox brought by the new visitors.

            We are just now filling up the Americas. Just like Europe, urbanization with its consequent infrastructural problems. Overcrowding breeds disease.

            History rhymes.

          • BackRowHeckler February 21, 2020 at 2:48 pm #

            Like I said, your best posts are about infectious diseases and medical issues.

          • Epicur February 21, 2020 at 5:04 pm #

            As far as crowding is concerned, crowding is relative to the disease susceptibility of the “herd”. As we have developed more and more resistance we have been able to sustain more and more crowding. 14th century Europeans did not have the resistance we have, just as Native Americans were not resistant to ordinary European diseases like measles and flu.

            The Native Americans were not “crowded” when Europeans arrived in numbers, but disease swept though them like wildfire.

        • SpeedyBB February 23, 2020 at 12:13 pm #

          JohnAZ,

          While I am not certain as to what you refer to as “…not human created…” that is certainly in accord with my own conclusion, after decades of observation. We are being steered in certain directions and deflected from others, oh-so-subtly. Who is doing this?

          Not “Deep State”, whose entitled, bureaucratic minions cannot be trusted to operate a vending machine properly. Other forces are at work, and whether you determine to ascribe “Jesus”, “Allah” or the Reptilians (or anyone else, on Earth or from off-planet) it seems certain that half-blind, drunk, perpetually angry humanity is receiving a firm hand of guidance from somewhere else.

          Whether this is for our benefit and to our advantage is another question altogether. It is also possible that someone doesn’t really care if we annihilate ourselves, as long as we leave the biosphere in a livable shape.

          For most humans the thought that we are sheep or cattle being herded down the trail is not unnaturally terrifying. So laugh it off. Because we know full well (as the livestock may suspect but does not know for sure) where the destination is.

  9. messianicdruid February 21, 2020 at 11:21 am #

    Flint Stone and Rubles, gonna be a great show. Yabba dabba do do…

  10. Beryl of Oyl February 21, 2020 at 11:21 am #

    I don’t care who is on trial, a hack judge is a hack judge and has no place on the bench.
    We used to have a lt of organizations that cared about a fair legal system.
    They seem to have all been corrupted too, or at least switched their mission to something far from its original purpose.

    • Majella February 21, 2020 at 4:36 pm #

      Hack judges? Kavanaugh? Gorsuch?

  11. sprawlcapital February 21, 2020 at 11:30 am #

    and I hope he does it from the teleprompter so it will come off clearly and coherently.
    =====================================================
    Yes, so he does not repeat his performance in the 2016 debates, when he rarely completed a sentence and was anything but coherent.

  12. volodya February 21, 2020 at 11:40 am #

    Yes, yes, “the Rule of Law” intone the Greatly Enlightened, Donald Trump threatens the Rule of Law, giving Lady Justice the vapors, making her unsteady on her stone pedestal. Somebody get the smelling salts. 

    And so the country gets years of distraction investigating nonsensical allegations plus the added treat of an impeachment farce, with one high administration official burdened with a mire of legal bills for crimes he didn’t commit, with no miscarriage of justice more ludicrous than the rock star of malfeasance herself walking, similarly those two FBI fart-boys. 

    Will guys like Brennan or Clapper ever see the inside of a cop-shop or court-room never mind a federal time-out facility? If you know to ask the question, you already know the answer, and in this and with all due respect I differ with our esteemed host. Trump’s been there three years now, the departments under his management showing exactly zero inclination to lift a finger. If it ain’t happened yet it ain’t gonna. 

    The Deep State no longer has the guts to kill pretenders to power it doesn’t like but it no longer makes any bones about its own existence and stopped making any effort at concealment, as evidenced by this latest caper over Russian interference in favor of the presidential incumbent. It’s a joke on so many levels you don’t know where to start but maybe the best place is the obvious paucity of imagination and creativity in these vaunted intel agencies, organizations allegedly endowed with the best, the brightest, the most patriotic, the most committed to the greatness of the American experiment. And they come up with shit like this? Gimme a fuckin’ break. 

    The threats to Democracy and the administration of justice come from Democrats and their allies in the permanent governing bureaucracy, not from Trump. 

    The thing is this, if Democrats stop making a point of screwing the very voters it counts on to get elected, they might actually get what they want – the Presidency, and Trump would never be an issue. 
    But it was a Democrat President that shepherded NAFTA and China into the WTO and who de-regulated Wall Street. It was a Democrat President that threw trillions at Wall Street in the aftermath of the 2008 financial mess and who declined to prosecute the malefactors sitting in those glass and steel Manhattan towers. You can’t minimize the destructive effects on ordinary Americans. 

    Was it racism and idiocy that got Trump elected? It was people in hundreds of counties that previously elected Obama that switched their votes. 

    I would address this to the NY Times and all those other august coastal publications if they were listening which they’re not: it wasn’t racism you mentally enfeebled dick-heads, it was enlightened self-interest, and to make it as plain as possible, they declined to vote for a Party that was most obviously working against them. 

    • volodya February 21, 2020 at 11:44 am #

      badly written:

      if Democrats stop making a point of screwing the very voters it counts on to get elected,

      should read:

      if Democrats stop making a point of screwing the very voters they count on to get elected,

      • WayfaringStranger February 21, 2020 at 3:38 pm #

        @_@

      • Majella February 21, 2020 at 4:38 pm #

        Huh? What correction?

        • volodya February 22, 2020 at 9:12 am #

          if Democrats stop making a point of screwing the very voters *it counts* on to get elected,

          should read

          *they count*

          I erred. No excuse. Excuses don’t matter.

    • Quick Joey Small February 21, 2020 at 1:25 pm #

      “Trump’s been there three years now, the departments under his management showing exactly zero inclination to lift a finger.”

      Well, just the one.

    • Majella February 23, 2020 at 1:20 am #

      V, you’re an open-minded sort of person, huh…

      I really recommend Matt Taibbi’s latest work “Hate Inc: Why today’s media makes us despise one another”. He admits his own role in this process over the last 4 years in particular, but takes a helicopter view of the landscapeover all.

      • volodya February 23, 2020 at 1:58 pm #

        Thanks for the compliment about being open minded even if I suspect that you harbor a wee suspicion that maybe I’m not.

        Because I’m often not. Like now I look at those retards propounding, yet again, that it’s Russians whispering behind the curtains. I’m sick of it.

        So my mind is closing and day-by-day I’m prepared to give less and less benefit of the doubt especially to what comes out of the FBI and intel. And more and more I’m prepared to assign less and less credibility.

        And thanks for the recommendation. I’ve read some of Taibbi’s stuff in Rolling Stone. He appears to be a man of a highly skeptical bent, something I wish I was myself.

        • Majella February 23, 2020 at 6:19 pm #

          V.

          Re: Open-minded…sure you are – you despise BOTH sides equally, don’t you?

          While your view on ‘the authorities’ as sources of reliable information may be – quite rightly – becoming jaded, as far as I can tell you haven’t fallen into the-black-abyss-from-which-there-is-no-return, Trumpistaland. At least, not yet.

          Taibbi’s book may give you some insight into how your mind-set is being subtlely manipulated into this lessening of trust as well.

          https://www.amazon.com/Hate-Inc-Todays-Despise-Another-ebook/dp/B07NJFS98Z/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=hate+inc%3A&qid=1582499819&s=digital-text&sr=1-1

          JohnAZ – you should read it too.

          • Nightowl February 24, 2020 at 4:12 am #

            “Trumpista”

            You know what the “ista” normally refers to when cracking these sorts of jokes?

            If you did, you would know it makes no sense here.

            But you don’t know.

            LOL.

  13. wwg1wga February 21, 2020 at 12:19 pm #

    ….so God made a Farmer.
    http://www.got-truth.com/docs/so%20God%20made%20a%20Farmer.pdf

  14. cc rider February 21, 2020 at 12:21 pm #

    My woke sensitivities are deeply offended by, and outraged over the opposition of Richard Grenell being nominated as the new DNI. He is after all a homosexual. He should therefore not be opposed at all, no matter what the position in government for which he is being considered.

    In fact, he has been pushing for homosexuality to be legalized in 68 countries where it is still illegal. And yet he is still being mocked and ridiculed by Trump’s political foes!

    How DARE them! How DARE them!

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/acting-intelligence-head-richard-grenell-s-push-decriminalize-homosexuality-has-n1140131

    • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 1:46 pm #

      Some day soon we will go to East African in a new crusade to force them to accept Homosexuality. The African Union will support us as they are Globalist. And Global Culture in anti-Heterosexual since that produces unwanted babies.

      How dare them? Indeed, THEY suck.

      • Majella February 21, 2020 at 5:58 pm #

        Utter cockamamie bullshit.

  15. JohnAZ February 21, 2020 at 12:28 pm #

    V

    Well said. The continued direction of the Democrats is a huge indication that the Stupidification of the American public that the Left has created and encouraged is working in their eyes.

    Except maybe it really is not working that well and the stupification is concentrating in the Democratic Party. Maybe, finally, the public is becoming aware of what it may lose if these neo Libs take control of their lives.

    Heard one Democrat say that if Bernie wins the presidency, his extreme views will make him the most ineffective president ever because no one is going to buy his BS. He is the spiritual leader of the Dems now.

  16. malthuss February 21, 2020 at 12:37 pm #

    In CALIFORNIA?

    There is a new law as of Jan 1 in CA. California Consumer Privacy Act.

    Demand to know from Amazon what data they have on you and then demand they delete it.

    • BackRowHeckler February 21, 2020 at 1:34 pm #

      There’s a new law in UK barring citizens from using coal or wood in stoves to keep their houses warm in the winter.

      “To fight global warming”

      No, I’m not sh#ttin yam look it up.

      Brh

      • malthuss February 21, 2020 at 7:10 pm #

        I thought this law existed in parts of USA.

      • Majella February 21, 2020 at 8:46 pm #

        As usual, a grain of truth on which to hang a sensationalising ‘story’.

        https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/21/house-coal-and-wet-wood-to-be-phased-out-by-2023-to-cut-pollution

        Open fires burning wood (termed ‘wet wood’ I.e. sappy) and coal are highly inefficient AND highly polluting. The use of these will be phased out over the next three years. Instead, the 2.5 million households affected will have to replace their current crappy outdated system with a modern efficient option, or switch to electricity (such as heat pumps). This is only in line with common refs in Europe (and NZ , btw), because it’s actually cheaper, more efficient and less polluting. Keep clutching your pearls Marlin.

      • GreenAlba February 22, 2020 at 10:47 am #

        It’s nothing to do with global warming, brh. Please read before you plead.

        It’s about atmospheric pollution, which is a major problem in terms of respiratory diseases.

        “Wood and coal burning accounts for 40% of harmful levels of background PM2.5 in the UK, and our research has shown that toxic PM2.5 can enter the bloodstream and damage our heart and circulatory system.”

        A wood-burning stove emits many times more harmful particulates than a huge diesel lorry. They have been gleefully acquired over the last decade by middle-class muesli crunchers and followers of fashion, who are more easily charmed than those of us who prefer to read up on things before we buy them.

        There have never been simple solutions:

        https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00022470.1976.10470341

      • GreenAlba February 22, 2020 at 10:52 am #

        “No, I’m not sh#ttin yam look it up.”

        I don’t know if you’re shitting ‘yam’, which sounds unpleasant, but you’re certainly shitting your readership.

        And it’s a bit rich to be telling people to ‘look it up’ when you have signally failed to do so yourself first.

      • GreenAlba February 22, 2020 at 11:35 am #

        On another matter, brh, you mentioned on the last thread something about almond milk and dairy and complained about everything being political (referring to dairy).

        Almond milk is political. Intensive almond farming is killing bees.

        https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/07/honeybees-deaths-almonds-hives-aoe

        The multi-faceted assault on bees is political, unless you don’t think future food shortages are political. You could do worse than forward that article to the almond-milk fans of your acquaintance.

        I believe there are less bee-destructive almond varieties but I know very little about it, not being a fan of almonds in any form.

  17. RIB February 21, 2020 at 12:46 pm #

    Is Russian interference okay if Trump doesn’t collude with them?

    • BackRowHeckler February 21, 2020 at 1:31 pm #

      RNC needs to post a few photos of Bernie Sandals honeymooning in Moscow.

      Does anybody doubt the KGB didn’t snap a few discreet photos of Sandals when he was honeymooning in Moscow?

      Brh

  18. RIB February 21, 2020 at 12:47 pm #

    Maybe we oughta send two or Minuteman 3 warheads down the Kremlin chimney stack…that oughta teach em

    • Majella February 22, 2020 at 5:09 am #

      It was a lot less well, you’ve spent millions on building and maintains them…the MIC depends on repeat business so I’m sure you’ll get no arguments from Raytheon et al…

  19. JohnAZ February 21, 2020 at 12:58 pm #

    New warning of Russian interference in 2020 elections favoring Trump.

    Wait a damn minute.

    No1. It is our vaunted intelligence agency that has reported this. Yes, the same group that have been discredited over and over.

    No2. Why would Russia promote a guy who has put serious sanctions on them rather than a “Democratic Socialist aka Communist” that would roll out the red carpet to them.

    Name one thing that Trump has done to promote Russian influence on this country. Right. Nothing!

    Who really have? Bernie is just the leader of a group of pro-socialistic Communists imbedded in this country, especially in the University sector. There’re goal for a hundred years has been the overthrow of the USA government for their Utopian ideal.

    Utopia, my foot, we are celebrating a surging economy again that is going to, once again, make the socialists look like a bunch of nincompoops.

    And its leader is Donald J. Trump.

    • cbeard February 21, 2020 at 4:16 pm #

      The surging economy is all smoke and mirrors.

    • Majella February 22, 2020 at 5:10 am #

      More catastrophic misrepresentation of reality, JohnAZ…

  20. Cargill February 21, 2020 at 1:10 pm #

    The General Flynn matter is something else, and goes far deeper into the seditious misuse of US intelligence. Flynn has become the American Dreyfus, an honorable army officer dragged through the muck unjustly by the Intel Community working “six ways from Sunday,” in the immortal words of Senator Chuck Schumer, to prevent its dirty laundry from being aired.

    Kunstler cannot be serious. Flynn is no Dreyfus – and certainly no victim. Can anyone forget his performance at that Trump (Nuremberg) rally? This vicious nasty venomous bile-spittin creature from the right-wing swamp – screaming “Lock her up! Lock her up!”.

    He was the perfect example of everything obscene about the right-wing angry white mail (privileged variety – even more scary and vicious than your dumb-ass MAGA-hatter rubes standing gormless and toothless out in the flyovers).

    The same disgusting view of the world that produced Brett Kavanagh’s sneering, snarling defence of his misogyny – his alcohol-fuelled “right” to be a complete prick, without consequences or loss of privileges.

    Flynn is a nasty piece of work just like him … to me they are more evil than the clownish hucksters who stumble through life ripping everyone off, lying, cheating, and licking the boots of real men – Stone, Manafort, and Cohen, for starters. And of course Trump himself – the most craven lickspittle of the whole swamp.

    • JohnAZ February 21, 2020 at 1:17 pm #

      Geez, Cargill.

      Tell us how you really feel.

      If it tears you up so much to read JHKs opinion pieces, why do you do it.

      He is obviously not going to change your vitriol loaded opinions, and by writing as you do, you are not going to change his.

      You definitely provide good comedy relief.

    • BackRowHeckler February 21, 2020 at 1:25 pm #

      “Flynn is a nasty piece of work” – Majella

      Really, a nasty piece of work? I thought he was a Lt. General in the United States Army who earned 4 Bronze Stars. He might not have the gravitas of say ‘the squad’, still, he’s a pretty formidable individual, IMHO.

      Brh

      • BackRowHeckler February 21, 2020 at 1:28 pm #

        Oh that was Cargill, from ‘Australia’ LoL!

        Cargill, Majella, what’s the diff?

        Brh

        • hmuller February 21, 2020 at 2:31 pm #

          I would take all Cargill’s colorful language and replace the names with left wing globalists traitors and their Antifa hirelings. I vilify them and Mr Cargill!

        • Majella February 21, 2020 at 8:25 pm #

          Marlin, the difference is huge. While you wouldn’t be able to distinguish between us from our accents, we could.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTwAoFR4DuM

          Most Australians & Kiwis, upon meeting someone with a North American accent will ask if they’re Canadian, just in case they are – they find being accused of being American quite insulting, which I entirely understand.

      • Cargill February 21, 2020 at 3:44 pm #

        He might not have the gravitas of say ‘the squad’, still, he’s a pretty formidable individual, IMHO.

        Have people really forgotten that night he ranted and raged? It was frightful, scary, bitter, rancid, utterly inappropriate and quite irrational.

        Trump surrounds himself with crooks, thugs, crims, and other bottom-feeders from society’s very dark underbelly. Yet the lunar right on here can’t get enough of these right-wing warriors and standover merchants.

        I can’t understand why … are you wishing you were the same, or something?

    • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 1:48 pm #

      Why, cuz he’s not Jewish? White Gentiles can only ever be victimizers and never victims in your lil red book.

    • K-Dog February 21, 2020 at 2:17 pm #

      I don’t know about that Cargill, there are aspects of Flynn that while I personally may find him repulsive his story is underdoggish.

      Not reporting a paycheck or two from RT the news agency. So what?

      But if he was covering up for Trump a tainted Muller investigation does not mean he is innocent of Lying to the FBI. Trump and Sergey Kislyak have connections.

      • K-Dog February 21, 2020 at 2:20 pm #

        But is lying to the FBI a bad thing if they are out to get you? I have other things to think about. Like the dozen of indigenous and environmental activists who have been murdered in the last month. Flynn at the end of the day will be OK.

    • Nightowl February 21, 2020 at 3:07 pm #

      https://i.imgflip.com/2u4cdm.jpg

    • WayfaringStranger February 21, 2020 at 3:43 pm #

      I’ll worry about Angry White Mail now every time I go down to the mailbox.

    • BornToKillPeace February 22, 2020 at 11:37 am #

      “He was the perfect example of everything obscene about the right-wing angry white mail (privileged variety – even more scary and vicious than your dumb-ass MAGA-hatter rubes standing gormless and toothless out in the flyovers).”

      Dang! I couldn’t get myself to vote for either of the two in 2016, but after getting that kind of verbal abuse for the past 3 and 1/2 years, I’m voting Trump in 2020 because of people like you.

  21. Pucker February 21, 2020 at 1:23 pm #

    Does Trump have any good, stalwart lieutenants, like Beria?

  22. Cargill February 21, 2020 at 1:40 pm #

    Anyway – in most cases these lowlife crims and perps cannot and will not escape state laws, even if and when they receive their totally unjustified, money-fuelled and law-flouting federal pardons.

    Goodness knows what Trump will do if he wins in November – a second-term lame-ducker, with no constraints, no scruples, and a couple of billion to be made in a short while.

    What a great Four Year Plan!

    • beantownbill. February 21, 2020 at 2:18 pm #

      Cargill, JHK’s long-term rant against TPTB has many backers on this web-site. Obviously, you aren’t going to convince them to change their world-view, which has developed over their lifetimes. So the question is, why are you posting here, especially since you seem to have enough brain power to realize this? You know you only irritate the commenters. Therefore, I can only come to the conclusion that either you are a paid shill for the anti-Trumpers or the Deep State, or you are overwhelmed and controlled by such exceptionally strong hatred that you have lost yourself. With all due respect, either get help or please leave us alone.

      • K-Dog February 21, 2020 at 2:32 pm #

        beantownbill,

        This is a wild guess but calling people paid shills could get you a personal email from JHK. Ad hominem has to be witty and paid shill? Not witty if you only use it by itself. You have to pair it with something. Something witty. And Cargill is not irritating me.

        • beantownbill. February 21, 2020 at 3:01 pm #

          I wasn’t trying to be witty. Wittiness doesn’t come naturally to me unless I’m in the mood, and I wasn’t. I used reason and came to my conclusion without vitriol. This is just my opinion. In context, I don’t think I said anything bad – you should know me better than that.

          Yes, you aren’t irritated by Cargill, and maybe I should have qualified my statement about irritating people. But many – and I believe most of the regulars – are in fact irritated. If I’m proven wrong, I’ll admit it.

          • EvelynV February 22, 2020 at 2:24 pm #

            The truth irritates a lot of people so of course many who are squandering what remains of their dull lives hanging out here are irritable.

        • WayfaringStranger February 21, 2020 at 3:49 pm #

          JHK sends disciplinary emails? Mwahahaha. I did not know that.
          p.s. You are clearly a paid shill. The paid-est and shill-est. Clearly.

          • beantownbill. February 21, 2020 at 5:34 pm #

            The correct word would be shilliest.

          • K-Dog February 21, 2020 at 5:35 pm #

            I piss him off enough, what is the mystery? That I’m a real person?

        • cbeard February 21, 2020 at 4:21 pm #

          Because you and he have a lot in common, I guess.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 5:31 pm #

          Not? That is truly damning, Kdog.

          • K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 11:31 am #

            If a check is in the mail it has been in the mail for a fucking long time. Shills have to be paid or all the term is a derogatory term for a sycophant. I don’t have any of that breed in me and I don’t agree with JHK when he goes off the rails.

      • Majella February 21, 2020 at 4:54 pm #

        BB

        So First Amendment Rights don’t exist hereabouts?

        It would be an awfully dull place if it was limited to right-wing table-bangers, conspiracy-theory choristers, religion-based apologists and One-eyed Trumpistas.

        Even LIQwl said recently that the likes of Cargill, K-Dog & me are the only reason he posts here.

        He went as far as saying he’d be too embarrassed to, otherwise. Still hoping he’ll clarify that, but given that’s unlikely, I can only postulate that he finds the incessant harping on about Dems hating America, the Constitution and white people and wanting unlimited immigration and free shit for poor people, just too laughable for his huge IQ.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 5:32 pm #

          Oh listen to you! As if you wouldn’t have half of us banned in a heartbeat if you could.

          • K-Dog February 21, 2020 at 5:37 pm #

            No, Vlad. You are not ready to admit it and I don’t like to admit it but you are …. evolving. I’d not stop that. It is a beautiful thing.

          • Majella February 21, 2020 at 6:05 pm #

            No, Skorenzy. I would defend you right to make a dickhead of yourself with my life. Just afford others the same privilege please.

            (You’re REALLY getting shrill today – can’t afford your medication this month?)

          • EvelynV February 22, 2020 at 2:31 pm #

            Janos, my ancestry has given me DNA more amenable to how your mind runs.

            Banned, quarantined, cremated, and remains dumped into a landfill or wherever it is the output of RV’s goes after an RV uses a dump station.

            But I mean that in a nice way.

        • elysianfield February 22, 2020 at 11:43 am #

          “No, Skorenzy. I would defend you right to make a dickhead of yourself with my life”

          Majella,
          I, too, would defend his right with your life.

          • Majella February 22, 2020 at 11:54 pm #

            Gee, I’m sure Janos will be doubly pleased…

        • Nightowl February 24, 2020 at 4:25 am #

          No, Maj. That isn’t what I said. I said I would be embarassed to return here if I could never back my claims with evidence.

          In other words, if I were you.

      • Cargill February 21, 2020 at 7:30 pm #

        Therefore, I can only come to the conclusion that either you are a paid shill for the anti-Trumpers or the Deep State, or you are overwhelmed and controlled by such exceptionally strong hatred that you have lost yourself.

        As I have said a couple of times previously, I came to this website many years ago (when I lived in a Cargill Street in Perth). I was alerted to it via The Oil Drum, and have had a life long interest in architecture, urban planning, landscape, and the environment generally – JHK spoke eloquently about these issues, and I was hooked. I’ve read a couple of his excellent books.

        This is married with a lifelong interest in (and frequent visits to) North America. Australia is an excellent country – with a pretty good mix of people (the accursed ‘multicultural society’), healthy free enterprise, and a robust social welfare net.

        There isn’t a lot to dislike (other than the terrible things we do to much of its fragile environment, and there is too little fresh water). However it is kinda ‘dull’ – so we travel to SE Asia, Western Europe, and North America – both for stimulation, and because we can afford to.

        We even visited the White House on the day of the 2000 general election – and watch in total fascination at a relative’s house for a couple of weeks – while the brawl over Florida played out. We do NOT have food-fights like that!

        However with the advent of the modern GOP (I guess starting with the Tea Party, Gingrich, the lunar evangelicals, and the Federalist Society stealth campaign – leading to Trump – my fascination with US politics increased (mostly in shock and horror), and I have watched JHK descend down a crazy path of anti-Democrat and Deep-State conspiracy.

        There appears there is nothing the Democrats can do that is worthy on here, and nothing the Republicans can do that is not heroic. It’s bizarre, anti-factual, and hugely partisan.

        For generations the “Deep State” has been regarded with suspicion, and sometimes repulsion – but by the Centre Left … now things have become so chaotic and turned upside-down that it is the Democrats who support the bureaucracy, seeking some protection from the GOP coup d’etat, and the hard right who decry theses same institutions as the enemy of the people.

        Who would not be fascinated by all this stuff? If you find my post irritating, just put it down to part of the rich tapestry of life. In the long run, we’re all dead.

        Have a great weekend!

        • beantownbill. February 21, 2020 at 8:57 pm #

          When you speak reasonably, as in this post, I don’t find you irritating. It’s only when you resort to extreme adjectives and name-calling that I do.

    • K-Dog February 21, 2020 at 2:40 pm #

      Goodness knows what Trump will do if he wins in November – a second-term lame-ducker, with no constraints, no scruples, and a couple of billion to be made in a short while.

      Nothing less than the anal rape of the middle class. There will be as sucking sound as your medicare and SSI gets siphoned off to oversea bank accounts. There will be a new golf course on the Black Sea. Next to it will be a dacha. It will be named mar-negro-a-lago.

    • RIB February 21, 2020 at 2:49 pm #

      He’ll pardon Harvey Weinstein if Harv’s found guilty. Satisfied?

      • BackRowHeckler February 21, 2020 at 3:29 pm #

        RIB

        It looks like Harvey might get off. Jury is still out as I type this.

        • RIB February 21, 2020 at 6:11 pm #

          BRH:

          “HOW DARE THEY?”

          • capt spaulding February 21, 2020 at 8:11 pm #

            Harvey gets off all the time, that’s what he’s on trial for.

          • hmuller February 22, 2020 at 11:12 am #

            Are we giving into cheap, risque witticisms now, Capt.?

            It looks like Harvey may have a hung jury. But are they as “hung” as he claims to be?

  23. beantownbill. February 21, 2020 at 1:55 pm #

    It’s a matter of momentum, I believe. Just as a boulder rolling down a hill keeps converting potential energy into kinetic energy, what is now a wokester joke began with good intentions by the boomer generation. I remember non-white discrimination very well, real discrimination. I remember when Blacks began appearing in tv commercials and I felt good about it. Individuals with social consciences began teaching their children, gen-xers and millennials, about discrimination.

    Unfortunately, they never were taught much about restraint and reasonableness by their boomer parents, who were still rebelling against their own depression-era parents. Anti-discrimination picked up momentum and got out of hand; thus the situation today.

    What many of these wokesters don’t realize is what happens when that boulder hits the barrier at the bottom of the hill. It won’t be pretty.

    • hmuller February 21, 2020 at 2:25 pm #

      I’m reminded of the black, female college student who loudly proclaimed in the Univ of Virginia multicultural center that ‘there are too many white people in here’. Having won the right to integration, many prefer to now self-segregate. Why,? Because most people feel more comfortable around their own kind.

      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51506733

      The molders of public perception have tried hard to present an image on TV and in movies where Americans are integrated in social settings, parties, churches, etc. Half the couples in TV commercials are now same sex or mixed race. Reality may not quite match the images promoted. But the social engineers are patient and will keep pounding their agendas into us.

      • malthuss February 21, 2020 at 7:17 pm #

        Blacks who have lots of money usually live among Whites.

        ergo, even blacks dont like blacks, when they have a choice.

        • Majella February 23, 2020 at 1:15 am #

          Sure, but not POOR white areas. It’s not the blacks they’re escaping, it’s neighbourhoods with atrocious living conditions and little or no civic support.

          • Majella February 23, 2020 at 1:16 am #

            ‘…but not into POOR white areas.’

    • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 5:08 pm #

      Was this before or after the Jews were driven out of Roxbury, the young Rabbi getting acid thrown in his face? If after, you suffer from the same toxic political correctness that so many Whites do.

      • beantownbill. February 21, 2020 at 5:31 pm #

        The correct answer is sufferED. I’m not a hater, like you. My first instinct is not to automatically dislike a person because of what group they belong to, but by their personality, whether white, black, brown or yellow.

        No one is without prejudices, but I don’t take it to an extreme like you do. You think you are a free thinker, but you are actually a prisoner of your prejudices and are one of the most restrictive persons I’ve ever communicated with.

        • malthuss February 21, 2020 at 7:09 pm #

          I’m not a hater,

          –on this we disagree.

          You said you were finished with this space, yet you cant leave.

          • beantownbill. February 21, 2020 at 9:06 pm #

            I was replying to Janos, not you. You are not a hater? You’ve called many Mexicans and blacks bad names many times here. You’ve disparaged Jews a lot. At least Janos is open about his true feelings, abhorrent as they are. You, on the other hand, are a weasel.

            I did leave this space for a while with all the nasty talk here, but I came back as CFN is a hard habit to break.

      • Majella February 21, 2020 at 6:07 pm #

        More vomited hatred. You really should look at a mirror from time to time.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 6:13 pm #

          Ask him if it happened or not. He’s being tricky again. But by using the past tense he kind of admits that it did happen and he did feel the normal hatred against the enemies of his people.

          Maj, you’re not clever enough to pick up on these things yourself after all.

          • Majella February 21, 2020 at 6:17 pm #

            You don’t offer anything but a bald statement of possible ‘fact’ then spin off on your usual hateful narrative. Vomiting the same old shit. You’re a really sad sight.

      • Majella February 21, 2020 at 6:23 pm #

        Skorenzy- that post seemed to signal actual empathy, which is rich for such a self-proclaimed Jew Hater.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 6:50 pm #

          You can’t figure out if you like me or hate me. My real State will always be beyond your comprehension. I take each person as they come – including Enemies. I can like or even love an Enemy. It doesn’t change the Fact of their being an Enemy though.

          I’m a person but not just a person. I belong to bigger things. As a mere “person”, you are just a bundle of changing likes, dislikes, loves, and hates. Even more as a female person….

          • Majella February 21, 2020 at 8:13 pm #

            What self-serving twaddle. And you threw in misogyny just to ice the shit-cake. Nice one.

          • hmuller February 22, 2020 at 11:24 am #

            It’s when people feel like they belong to “bigger things” that the mass executions become justified.

            A “mere person” only lashes out defensively against those who threaten him and his group.

            An ideologue wants to remake the world in his image by whatever means necessary.

          • BornToKillPeace February 22, 2020 at 12:19 pm #

            “It’s when people feel like they belong to “bigger things” that the mass executions become justified”

            or

            It’s when people feel like they belong to car usage that the mass crashes and death become justified.

            or

            It’s when people feel like they belong to rear end ramming that the mass stds and aids become justified.

            etc, etc etc, etc.

            Just hide under a blanket then.

  24. JohnAZ February 21, 2020 at 2:42 pm #

    All you folks that make fun of Trump’s orating ad lib, why don’t you try it sometimes. Every time he uses prompters, like Obama always did, the media says he made a great speech.

    Talking in front of thousands of folks is not Speech 101.

    • JohnAZ February 21, 2020 at 2:44 pm #

      Besides, I would rather have a guy who cannot speak the King’s English but gets things done.

      • beantownbill. February 21, 2020 at 3:29 pm #

        I agree. I wish he was eloquent like JFK or JHK, but getting things done is more important. Whatever Trump has done, however, is not enough. He promised many things but didn’t deliver. Yes, Congress stymied him on several matters, like healthcare, but then he gave up and didn’t seem to push them publicly anymore. There’s much he should be doing, or try to do, besides twitting.

        I know you like him – I don’t dislike him myself – but like many rich and powerful men, he does some things he shouldn’t be proud of, like cheating on his wife and not paying his contractors when he should. Still, he doesn’t deserve what the dems have done to him. We put up with Obama for 8 years and I wasn’t happy about it (I was hopeful when he won the election, but knew within a few weeks of his presidency when he appointed the same old government operators, that his term would be a disaster).

        • Nightowl February 21, 2020 at 3:49 pm #

          I don’t really see why it matters. He has personal flaws, as we all do, but since you can’t trust anything you read in the media, we will never know what is true or false, beyond what we can verify.

          The reason he is attacked is that he threatens the establishment. He policy lines up with what many left-leaning independents have been wanting for years.

          For left leaning indies who want neolib/con foreign policy reversed, a restoration of our manufacturing base and small towns, and social policies conducive to human welfare (though America has a ways to go, regardless) and that keep America open and free, there is literally no other choice at present.

          I last voted for Nader, and I may very well go Trump in 2020.

          • beantownbill. February 21, 2020 at 9:16 pm #

            It’s funny. True that you don’t really know the truth. I rail against those whose opinions are stated as fact, yet here I’ve done the same thing. Oops. I guess it’s hard to avoid.

        • K-Dog February 21, 2020 at 5:40 pm #

          I have it figured out. Sit Bernie down with Trump and have them play poker. Winner take the planet.

        • Cargill February 22, 2020 at 5:10 am #

          Whatever Trump has done, however, is not enough. He promised many things but didn’t deliver.

          I strongly disagree – the Trump machine has does many things he promised:

          – slashed taxes for the 1% and corporations
          – attacked social welfare benefits
          – tortured refugees on the Mexican border
          – appointed lickspittle cabinet members
          – appointed unqualified fruit-loop federal judges
          – slashed environmental protection laws
          – slashed consumer protection laws
          – gone after the vulnerable who use Obamacare

          But he has delivered precisely nothing (in fact far, far less than nothing) to the millions of MAGA true-believers out there. They are jobless, uneducated, substance-addicted, unhealthy, and hurting … and so long as they vote the right way, Trump laughs all the way to the bank. He cares less.

          • K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 11:25 am #

            – murders people every now and then
            – splits up families

            The truly amazing thing is that grown adults act like children around this buffoon. For no good reason.

      • Majella February 22, 2020 at 12:32 pm #

        Currently, it’s the Queen’s English…

  25. akmofo February 21, 2020 at 3:16 pm #

    The same gov mafia that shamelessly appoints hacks like Amy Berman Jackson as a “judge”, is the gov mafia that controls Afghanistan and the biggest dope production in the world. People refuse to put two and two together, and identify this mafia for what it is, because they are naive and stupid and are psychologically lobotomized by PC agendas.

    • JohnAZ February 21, 2020 at 4:42 pm #

      Akmofo

      I think you may be right. When you hear all the pieces, drugs, slavery, prostitution, gambling etc., you wonder if they are not all under the same organizations.

      D. Drugs
      A. Adult prostitution
      V. Violence
      O. Organized gambling
      S. Slavery

      • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 5:11 pm #

        Jewish Mobster Meyer Lansky was a big donator to Israel. When you even have gangsters on board, well that’s power.

        • akmofo February 21, 2020 at 5:37 pm #

          Lansky couldn’t buy himself a home anywhere, that’s how pathetic he and his supposed organization was. A one man show working for the Italians. An irrelevant and meaningless propaganda manikin.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 21, 2020 at 6:25 pm #

            https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/meyer-lanskys-house-former/

            His home was in Miami. It took less than a minute to disprove you. And according to Wiki, the FBI believed he died leaving 300 million in secret bank accounts. And that’s 1967. How much would that be worth today? Well over a billion, right?

            Wrong on both counts, sport. Don’t ever change, Akmo. You are too precious.

          • akmofo February 21, 2020 at 6:47 pm #

            Obviously he had a residence inside US. I was talking about a home outside the US. He had ZERO political clout, he was a marked man, and he had ZERO real money, because obviously he had ZERO political clout. A small timer money manager for small time NYC Italian/Jewish ghetto hoods.

            Only an idiot would consider Lansky and gang of poor ghetto hoodlums as somebodies. And that would be you.

          • malthuss February 21, 2020 at 7:06 pm #

            Janos, Id guess 300m, then = 3 to 6 billion, now.

          • akmofo February 21, 2020 at 7:15 pm #

            The guy couldn’t pay health insurance for his son, that’s how “rich” he was. It’s pathetic.

            From Wikipedia:

            ..his biographer Robert Lacey describes Lansky’s financially strained circumstances in the last two decades of his life and his inability to pay for health care for his handicapped son, who eventually died in poverty. For Lacey, there was no evidence “to sustain the notion of Lansky as king of all evil, the brains, the secret mover, the inspirer and controller of American organized crime.”[13] He concludes from evidence including interviews with the surviving members of the family that Lansky’s wealth and influence had been grossly exaggerated.

      • akmofo February 21, 2020 at 5:27 pm #

        The government is the mafia. When you look the richest counties in the US, you find out very quickly that they are all directly employed by the gov mafia agencies, and that they are all majority Roman Catholic. There is no such thing as coincidence. Nothing is by accident. Everything is planned.

        • akmofo February 21, 2020 at 5:57 pm #

          look ^at^ the richest counties in the US

      • Majella February 21, 2020 at 6:14 pm #

        Nice piece of construction, JohnAZ.

        Can’t you somehow work ritual child abuse, satanism, white replacement, climate hoax, the deep state and all the other diverse conspiracies that fill your head?

        • Tate February 21, 2020 at 6:46 pm #

          If white replacement isn’t a conspiracy, how come New York Times columnists with last names such as Cohen gleefully editorialize over it?

          • malthuss February 21, 2020 at 7:08 pm #

            wiki–white genocide conspiracy theory..they say its just nonsense…Andrea says ‘Iowa is too White’—they keep on keeping on to destroy the whites.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_genocide_conspiracy_theory

          • akmofo February 21, 2020 at 7:30 pm #

            they keep on keeping on to destroy the whites
            ==

            Well then, you must destroy them first, isn’t that so? You’re very good at that, so no need to fret except the victims of your systematic industrial genocides.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 22, 2020 at 4:40 am #

            Akmo accepts the premise and then lays out the logic of Hitler. What is there to say? Of course he is pretending to mock it, but it is obviously true as he well knows.

          • PeteAtomic February 22, 2020 at 9:21 am #

            I did find it interesting that on CNN/MSDNC they referred to Iowa & New Hampshire not representative of the country and the candidates needed to go to more “diverse” states.

            So, apparently to commentators in the MSM, only parts of the country are America. Not sure what the other parts are.

        • capt spaulding February 21, 2020 at 8:18 pm #

          D.A.V.O.S. , John AZ, are you saying all of this is orchestrated by Switzerland?

          • JohnAZ February 22, 2020 at 12:08 pm #

            Heck no, DAVOS is an international group of financial Elitists that just meet in Switzerland.

            I just wonder where they get all their money.

        • JohnAZ February 22, 2020 at 12:12 pm #

          Only very naive folks can observe what is happening today and not acknowledge that it is originating from a central focus.

  26. malthuss February 21, 2020 at 7:14 pm #

    WHERES GREEN ALBA?

    On other fronts, this week I went to a talk. One man stood up and said he liked Pete Buttgiggs.
    Another said Pete could ‘aim a gun and is a Rhodes ‘Scholar’.

    Obviously he thinks rhodes and scholarship go together.
    Cecil Rhodes was a globalist and the RS thing is to groom globalist
    flunkies like Bill Clinton.

    Buttgigg cant run a small city well.

    • K-Dog February 21, 2020 at 10:31 pm #

      Brexited ?

    • GreenAlba February 22, 2020 at 5:28 am #

      “WHERES GREEN ALBA?”

      Why the loud hailer, malthuss?

      • PeteAtomic February 22, 2020 at 9:15 am #

        How’s GreenAlba doin?

        Is that long, dark, rain soaked British winter over yet?

        😉

        • GreenAlba February 22, 2020 at 10:08 am #

          Fine, thanks, PeteA.

          Edinburgh’s hilly (‘the Athens of the North’) so many (most?) of us have missed out on the horrendous floods that are currently ruining the homes and lives of people in other parts of the country, and with depressing and increasing frequency.

          Today it has very briefly snowed here (wet, not ‘lying’ snow) and it’s a bit windy. Now it’s enthusiastically raining. bit it will likely be off again in 5 minutes. Last couple of weeks haven’t been great, but we lack the extremes of continental climates, and I’m lucky enough never to have lived anywhere flood prone. I’m also lucky enough to be housed in very solid sandstone, so when it’s really hot outside I have shelter from that too.

          I’m only concentrating on weather since you asked, of course, PA. Edinburgh has other charms (including architectural). And warts. 🙂

          Winters are shorter than they were, of course – and we are compensated for our short winter days by long summer ones (a bane for people with young children unless you have blackout curtains in their bedrooms!).

          I hope the family farming continues to do well, PeteA.

          • GreenAlba February 22, 2020 at 10:09 am #

            bit = ‘,but’!

          • JohnAZ February 22, 2020 at 12:06 pm #

            Maybe people appreciate you viewpoint, GA. I do.

          • BornToKillPeace February 22, 2020 at 1:16 pm #

            I do as well. Even if there were no common ground to her, I believe I still would.

            And as to you, GA,

            “I Was Booorrnn, by the Riiivver,” sincerely.

            Take good care, in whatever weather.

          • GreenAlba February 22, 2020 at 1:16 pm #

            That’s kind of you, JohnAZ, although I fear you’d have to look for my fan club with a microscope and it wouldn’t include malthuss. 🙂

          • PeteAtomic February 22, 2020 at 6:16 pm #

            sounds good Green Alba.. I didn’t realize UK was getting hit by floods yet again.. it seems like UK is hit by bad floods often now. Not sure if that’s a ‘new’ phenomena or not..

            Edinburgh is a beautiful city.. I was there 2 decades ago.. it was great…and yeah, seemed kinda hilly.

      • malthuss February 22, 2020 at 11:09 am #

        why not? do you deserve only small caps?

  27. ellipsis February 21, 2020 at 8:18 pm #

    LOL! Here it is ladies, gents, and miscreants: proof positive that the fix is already in on Sanders.

    Sanders told Russia is trying to help his campaign

    Washington (CNN)

    Sen. Bernie Sanders said Friday that his campaign was briefed about Russian efforts to help his presidential campaign, intensifying concerns about the Kremlin’s role in the US presidential race.

    It remains unclear how Russia is attempting to help Sanders, according to The Washington Post, which first reported the effort. The revelation comes a day after it was reported that the US intelligence community believes Moscow is taking steps to help President Donald Trump win and at a time when Sanders is emerging as the Democratic front-runner.

    Speaking to reporters in Bakersfield, California, Friday afternoon, Sanders confirmed that his campaign was briefed about the Kremlin’s efforts about a month ago and condemned Russia’s attempts to interfere in US elections.

    “It was not clear what role they’re going to play. We were told that Russia, maybe other countries, are going to get involved in this campaign, and look, here’s the message to Russia: stay out of American elections,” Sanders said.

    “And what they are doing, by the way, the ugly thing that they are doing, and I’ve seen some of their tweets and stuff, is they try to divide us up. That’s what they did in 2016 and that is the ugliest thing they are doing — is they are trying to cause chaos, they are trying to cause hatred in America.”

    The Vermont senator speculated that the news broke on Friday afternoon in order to have an impact on Saturday’s Nevada caucuses, in which he is a leading candidate.

    Two of Sanders’ centrist Democratic rivals seized on the news, with Michael Bloomberg’s campaign calling Russian support for Sanders a “no-brainer” for Moscow.

    “They either nominate the weakest candidate to take on their puppet Trump, or they elect a socialist as President,” Bloomberg’s campaign tweeted.

    And former Vice President Joe Biden told CNN’s Arlette Saenz in Las Vegas that the report indicates that Putin doesn’t want him to be elected.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/21/politics/bernie-sanders-russia-election-interference/index.html

    *****

    Sanders should do his followers a favor and drop out now, as this is the clearest indication yet that the powers that be within the beltway will never allow him anywhere near the WH. And to think, we thought the Russia, Russia, Russia narrative would be reserved for Trump alone. Oh well, Sanders had a nice run while it lasted. The poor bastard’s apparently even going along with it, proof positive once again that he’s not yet ready for prime time. Just watch how many Trump supporters who screamed bloody murder when this was directed at their guy go right along with it now that it’s aimed at Ageless Bernie. Commie, Commie, Commie! and all that horseshit. I imagine Putin is getting a right nice belly laugh out of all this nonsense. Only in ‘Murika!

    • Tate February 21, 2020 at 10:42 pm #

      This is the Deep State, neoliberal/neoconservative globalist money power uniparty string-pullers trying to throw panic into the ranks of the coalition of the Fringes that make up the Democrat party. Omigod! Sanders is Putin’s new puppet! we can’t vote for him, he will outlaw gay marriage! LOL

    • Nightowl February 22, 2020 at 3:40 am #

      I saw a post on Twatter recently that had a side-by-side graphic of Sanders partaking in the McMedia/prog conspiracy that Trump was aided by Russians on the left, and on the opposite side, a graphic with a McMeda headline that Sanders is the new Manchurian candidate.

      I wonder how much he regrets selling his soul.

      • Nightowl February 23, 2020 at 4:12 pm #

        There are no examples, because the Pied Piper strategy and the Russia Smear were cooked up by Robbie Mook and Skippy Podesta.

        Trump was not the only target. And much of the scheming can be read in black and white in the mails archived at Wikileaks.

    • JohnAZ February 22, 2020 at 12:03 pm #

      I am still waiting on someone, anyone to give one example of Trump supporting anyone in Russia. Just one?

      Or Putin supporting Trump, or Bernie.

      This BS is all coming from the same “lack of intelligence agencies” that brought us Russiagate, Ukrainegate and most of the other corrupted Leftist lies we have heard the last three years.

      Also, will someone, anyone tell me how anyone, not just Russia, can interfere with any vote in the US. Last time I looked it is every voter for themselves. If anything, Russia has convinced more Progressives to lose their minds than any Trumpsters.

  28. JohnAZ February 21, 2020 at 8:32 pm #

    Stop and frisk at a deterrent to crime in NYC. Bad bad right? How about security at the airports?

    • hmuller February 23, 2020 at 9:45 am #

      Airport choices. Is it better to have every body cavity groped and inspected or to submit to harmful irradiation? Oh, the joys of living in the Orwellian police state. But hey, traveling is a privilege, not a right, so we have no basis for complaint.

  29. capt spaulding February 21, 2020 at 8:46 pm #

    Read today that financier JP Morgan’s economists are warning it’s clients that that the climate crisis is a threat to the human race. I don’t recall JP Morgan as being much of a Chicken Little when it comes to most situations, so I have to guess that they’re taking it pretty seriously. But hey, it’s probably run by a bunch of hand wringing liberals, so just go ahead and ignore the implications.

    • Tate February 21, 2020 at 9:15 pm #

      They see dollar signs. Not that there isn’t climate change.

    • BackRowHeckler February 22, 2020 at 6:09 am #

      Well, if that’s the case, time to shut down the power plants and begin erecting windmills to run this place on. Also, get rid of our cars and start rising bikes,

      I known I known Captain, I am ignorant because I don’t understand your nuanced and eclectic humor. You’ve told me that twice already.

      Brh

      • capt spaulding February 22, 2020 at 9:23 am #

        I don’t think you are ignorant at all. I think cognitive dissonance is your problem. You only read or listen to things that agree with your already developed opinion. Look it up sometime, it’s a very common human way of thinking. You known?

        • malthuss February 22, 2020 at 10:55 am #

          climate change? nature is ever in flux, my dear.

          • capt spaulding February 22, 2020 at 12:19 pm #

            If we keep up with our wasteful ways, we’ll all be fluxed.

        • hmuller February 22, 2020 at 11:40 am #

          Capt, Is cognitive dissonance the correct term to use here?

          “Cognitive dissonance …refers to the mental conflict that occurs when a person’s behaviors and beliefs do not align.
          It may also happen when a person holds two beliefs that contradict one another.” https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/326738

          If Malthus never listens to another point of view, he won’t have “cognitive dissonance”; he’ll have “confirmation bias”.

          • capt spaulding February 22, 2020 at 12:21 pm #

            Having only encountered the condition in class, and not being a pro, I can accept conformation bias as reasonable.

  30. malthuss February 22, 2020 at 12:11 am #

    CORONA

    CHRIS MARTENSON

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnJ2iLZd7HY

  31. Pucker February 22, 2020 at 12:53 am #

    Guo Wengui says that the leadership in Beijing is started to be personally infected with the Covid 19 virus. Apparently, the Beijing University People’s Hospital is a Hospital serving the high Party leaders including Wang Qishan. Guo Wengui says that this hospital sells cradle-to-grave health maintenance packages to the Party leaders and tycoons. Guo Wengui says that there’s a section of the hospital in which the leaders and rich people can use their sperm to inseminate eggs collected from selected women and then implanted into surrogate mothers. After the kid is born, there are education services and upon death they’ll cremate you and box up your ashes nicely. Full Eugenics service to ensure the long term health and superiority of Party leadership. Michael Bloomberg would love it. And now, according to Guo Wengui, this hospital is now infected with the Covid 19 virus. Go figure…. So much for Com…munist Utopia. They’re all insane….

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hPvVNcisb-c

  32. K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 3:41 am #

    Flynn has become the American Dreyfus

    Does it fit?

    From 1894 to 1906 Dreyfusards and anti-Dreyfusards” embittered French politics and encouraged radicalization.

    From 2016 to 2024 Flynnards and anti-Flynnards” embittered American politics and encouraged radicalization.

    Yes it does. But Flynn is not going to Devils Island. Or Guantanamo.

    • BackRowHeckler February 22, 2020 at 6:22 am #

      Surprised to see General Flynn is from a little town in Rhode Island, one of nine kids — obviously a large Catholic family. Also, he didn’t go to West Point but to URI. To become a 4 star General from that humble background is nothing short of remarkable.

      Brh

      • malthuss February 22, 2020 at 10:57 am #

        screw war and the military. my family suffered enough by being in the US military.

        • Majella February 23, 2020 at 1:23 am #

          Care to expand on that please?

  33. Janos Skorenzy February 22, 2020 at 4:28 am #

    A Master speaks. Name: Christopher Caldwell.

    The following is adapted from a talk delivered on January 28, 2020, at Hillsdale College’s Allan P. Kirby, Jr. Center for Constitutional Studies and Citizenship in Washington, D.C., as part of the AWC Family Foundation lecture series.

    American society today is divided by party and by ideology in a way it has perhaps not been since the Civil War. I have just published a book that, among other things, suggests why this is. It is called The Age of Entitlement: America Since the Sixties. It runs from the assassination of John F. Kennedy to the election of Donald J. Trump. You can get a good idea of the drift of the narrative from its chapter titles: 1963, Race, Sex, War, Debt, Diversity, Winners, and Losers.
    I can end part of the suspense right now—Democrats are the winners. Their party won the 1960s—they gained money, power, and prestige. The GOP is the party of the people who lost those things.
    One of the strands of this story involves the Vietnam War. The antiquated way the Army was mustered in the 1960s wound up creating a class system. What I’m referring to here is the so-called student deferment. In the old days, university-level education was rare. At the start of the First World War, only one in 30 American men was in a college or university, so student deferments were not culturally significant. By the time of Vietnam, almost half of American men were in a college or university, and student deferment remained in effect until well into the war. So if you were rich enough to study art history, you went to Woodstock and made love. If you worked in a garage, you went to Da Nang and made war. This produced a class division that many of the college-educated mistook for a moral division, particularly once we lost the war. The rich saw themselves as having avoided service in Vietnam not because they were more privileged or—heaven forbid—less brave, but because they were more decent.

    Another strand of the story involves women. Today, there are two cultures of American womanhood—the culture of married women and the culture of single women. If you poll them on political issues, they tend to differ diametrically. It was feminism that produced this rupture. For women during the Kennedy administration, by contrast, there was one culture of femininity, and it united women from cradle to grave: Ninety percent of married women and 87 percent of unmarried women believed there was such a thing as “women’s intuition.” Only 16 percent of married women and only 15 percent of unmarried women thought it was excusable in some circumstances to have an extramarital affair. Ninety-nine percent of women, when asked the ideal age for marriage, said it was sometime before age 27. None answered “never.”

    But it is a third strand of the story, running all the way down to our day, that is most important for explaining our partisan polarization. It concerns how the civil rights laws of the 1960s, and particularly the Civil Rights Act of 1964, divided the country. They did so by giving birth to what was, in effect, a second constitution, which would eventually cause Americans to peel off into two different and incompatible constitutional cultures. This became obvious only over time. It happened so slowly that many people did not notice.
    Because conventional wisdom today holds that the Civil Rights Act brought the country together, my book’s suggestion that it pulled the country apart has been met with outrage. The outrage has been especially pronounced among those who have not read the book. So for their benefit I should make crystal clear that my book is not a defense of segregation or Jim Crow, and that when I criticize the long-term effects of the civil rights laws of the 1960s, I do not criticize the principle of equality in general, or the movement for black equality in particular.

    What I am talking about are the emergency mechanisms that, in the name of ending segregation, were established under the Civil Rights Act of 1964. These gave Washington the authority to override what Americans had traditionally thought of as their ordinary democratic institutions. It was widely assumed that the emergency mechanisms would be temporary and narrowly focused. But they soon escaped democratic control altogether, and they have now become the most powerful part of our governing system.

    How Civil Rights Legislation Worked
    There were two noteworthy things about the civil rights legislation of 1964 and 1965.
    The first was its unprecedented concentration of power. It gave Washington tools it had never before had in peacetime. It created new crimes, outlawing discrimination in almost every walk of public and private life. It revoked—or repealed—the prevailing understanding of freedom of association as protected by the First Amendment. It established agencies to hunt down these new crimes—an expanded Civil Rights Commission, an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), and various offices of civil rights in the different cabinet agencies. It gave government new prerogatives, such as laying out hiring practices for all companies with more than 15 employees, filing lawsuits, conducting investigations, and ordering redress. Above all, it exposed every corner of American social, economic, and political life to direction from bureaucrats and judges.
    To put it bluntly, the effect of these civil rights laws was to take a lot of decisions that had been made in the democratic parts of American government and relocate them to the bureaucracy or the judiciary. Only with that kind of arsenal, Lyndon Johnson and the drafters thought, would it be possible to root out insidious racism.
    The second noteworthy thing about the civil rights legislation of the 1960s is that it was kind of a fudge. It sat uneasily not only with the First Amendment, but with the Constitution as a whole. The Voting Rights Act of 1965, passed largely to give teeth to the 14th Amendment’s guarantee of equal rights for all citizens, did so by creating different levels of rights for citizens of southern states like Alabama and citizens of northern states like Michigan when it came to election laws.

    The goal of the civil rights laws was to bring the sham democracies of the American South into conformity with the Constitution. But nobody’s democracy is perfect, and it turned out to be much harder than anticipated to distinguish between democracy in the South and democracy elsewhere in the country. If the spirit of the law was to humiliate Southern bigots, the letter of the law put the entire country—all its institutions—under the threat of lawsuits and prosecutions for discrimination.

    Still, no one was too worried about that. It is clear in retrospect that Americans outside the South understood segregation as a regional problem. As far as we can tell from polls, 70-90 percent of Americans outside the South thought that blacks in their part of the country were treated just fine, the same as anyone else. In practice, non-Southerners did not expect the new laws to be turned back on themselves.

    The Broadening of Civil Rights
    The problem is that when the work of the civil rights legislation was done—when de jure segregation was stopped—these new powers were not suspended or scaled back or reassessed. On the contrary, they intensified. The ability to set racial quotas for public schools was not in the original Civil Rights Act, but offices of civil rights started doing it, and there was no one strong enough to resist. Busing of schoolchildren had not been in the original plan, either, but once schools started to fall short of targets established by the bureaucracy, judges ordered it.

    Affirmative action was a vague notion in the Civil Rights Act. But by the time of the Supreme Court’s 1978 Bakke decision, it was an outright system of racial preference for non-whites. In that case, the plaintiff, Alan Bakke, who had been a U.S. Marine captain in Vietnam, saw his application for medical school rejected, even though his test scores were in the 96th, 94th, 97th, and 72nd percentiles. Minority applicants, meanwhile, were admitted with, on average, scores in the 34th, 30th, 37th, and 18th percentiles. And although the Court decided that Bakke himself deserved admission, it did not do away with the affirmative action programs that kept him out. In fact, it institutionalized them, mandating “diversity”—a new concept at the time—as the law of the land.

    Meanwhile other groups, many of them not even envisioned in the original legislation, got the hang of using civil rights law. Immigrant advocates, for instance: Americans never voted for bilingual education, but when the Supreme Court upheld the idea in 1974, rule writers in the offices of civil rights simply established it, and it exists to this day. Women, too: the EEOC battled Sears, Roebuck & Co. from 1973 to 1986 with every weapon at its disposal, trying to prove it guilty of sexism—ultimately failing to prove even a single instance of it.

    Finally, civil rights came to dominate—and even overrule—legislation that had nothing to do with it. The most traumatic example of this was the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986. This legislation was supposed to be the grand compromise on which our modern immigration policy would be built. On the one hand, about three million illegal immigrants who had mostly come north from Mexico would be given citizenship. On the other hand, draconian laws would ensure that the amnesty would not be an incentive to future migrants, and that illegal immigration would never get out of control again. So there were harsh “employer sanctions” for anyone who hired a non-citizen. But once the law passed, what happened? Illegal immigrants got their amnesty. But the penalties on illegal hiring turned out to be fake—because, to simplify just a bit, asking an employee who “looks Mexican” where he was born or about his citizenship status was held to be a violation of his civil rights. Civil rights law had made it impossible for Americans to get what they’d voted for through their representatives, leading to decades of political strife over immigration policy that continues to this day.
    A more recent manifestation of the broadening of civil rights laws is the “Dear Colleague” letter sent by the Obama Education Department’s Office for Civil Rights in 2011, which sought to dictate sexual harassment policy to every college and university in the country. Another is the overturning by judges of a temporary ban on entry from certain countries linked to terrorism in the first months of the Trump administration in 2017.

    These policies, qua policies, have their defenders and their detractors. The important thing for our purposes is how they were established and enforced. More and more areas of American life have been withdrawn from voters’ democratic control and delivered up to the bureaucratic and judicial emergency mechanisms of civil rights law. Civil rights law has become a second constitution, with powers that can be used to override the Constitution of 1787.

    The New Constitution
    In explaining the constitutional order that we see today, I’d like to focus on just two of its characteristics.
    First, it has a moral element, almost a metaphysical element, that is usually more typical of theocracies than of secular republics. As we’ve discussed, civil rights law gave bureaucrats and judges emergency powers to override the normal constitutional order, bypassing democracy. But the key question is: Under what conditions is the government authorized to activate these emergency powers? It is a question that has been much studied by political thinkers in Europe. Usually when European governments of the past bypassed their constitutions by declaring emergencies, it was on the grounds of a military threat or a threat to public order. But in America, as our way of governing has evolved since 1964, emergencies are declared on a moral basis: people are suffering; their newly discovered rights are being denied. America can’t wait anymore for the ordinary democratic process to take its course.

    A moral ground for invoking emergencies sounds more humane than a military one. It is not. That is because, in order to justify its special powers, the government must create a class of officially designated malefactors. With the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the justification of this strong medicine was that there was a collection of Southern politicians who were so wily and devious, and a collection of Southern sheriffs so ruthless and depraved, that one could not, and was not morally obliged to, fight fair with them.
    That pattern has perpetuated itself, even as the focus of civil rights has moved to American institutions less obviously objectionable than segregation. Every intervention in the name of rights requires the identification of a malefactor. So very early on in the gay marriage debate, those who believed in traditional marriage were likened to segregationists or to those who had opposed interracial marriage.
    Joe Biden recently said: “Let’s be clear: Transgender equality is the civil rights issue of our time. There is no room for compromise when it comes to basic human rights.” Now, most Americans, probably including Joe Biden, know very little about transgenderism. But this is an assertion that Americans are not going to be permitted to advance their knowledge by discussing the issue in public or to work out their differences at the ballot box. As civil rights laws have been extended by analogy into other areas of American life, the imputation of moral non-personhood has been aimed at a growing number of people who have committed no sin more grievous than believing the same things they did two years ago, and therefore standing in the way of the progressive juggernaut.

    The second characteristic of the new civil rights constitution is what we can call intersectionality. This is a sociological development. As long as civil rights law was limited to protecting the rights of Southern blacks, it was a stable system. It had the logic of history behind it, which both justified and focused its application. But if other groups could be given the privilege of advancing their causes by bureaucratic fiat and judicial decree, there was the possibility of a gradual building up of vast new coalitions, maybe even electoral majorities. This was made possible because almost anyone who was not a white heterosexual male could benefit from civil rights law in some way.

    Seventy years ago, India produced the first modern minority-rights based constitution with a long, enumerated list of so-called “scheduled tribes and castes.” Eventually, inter-group horse trading took up so much of the country’s attention that there emerged a grumbling group of “everyone else,” of “ordinary Indians.” These account for many of the people behind the present prime minister, Narendra Modi. Indians who like Modi say he’s the candidate of average citizens. Those who don’t like him, as most of the international media do not, call him a “Hindu nationalist.”
    We have a version of the same thing happening in America. By the mid-1980s, the “intersectional” coalition of civil rights activists started using the term “people of color” to describe itself. Now, logically, if there really is such a thing as “people of color,” and if they are demanding a larger share of society’s rewards, they are ipso facto demanding that “non–people of color” get a smaller share. In the same way that the Indian constitution called forth the idea of a generic “Hindu,” the new civil rights constitution created a group of “non–people of color.” It made white people a political reality in the United States in a way they had never been.
    Now we can apply this insight to parties. So overpowering is the hegemony of the civil rights constitution of 1964 over the Constitution of 1787, that the country naturally sorts itself into a party of those who have benefitted by it and a party of those who have been harmed by it.

    A Party of Bigots and a Party of Totalitarians
    Let’s say you’re a progressive. In fact, let’s say you are a progressive gay man in a gay marriage, with two adopted children. The civil rights version of the country is everything to you. Your whole way of life depends on it. How can you back a party or a politician who even wavers on it? Quite likely, your whole moral idea of yourself depends on it, too. You may have marched in gay pride parades carrying signs reading “Stop the Hate,” and you believe that people who opposed the campaign that made possible your way of life, your marriage, and your children, can only have done so for terrible reasons. You are on the side of the glorious marchers of Birmingham, and they are on the side of Bull Connor. To you, the other party is a party of bigots.
    But say you’re a conservative person who goes to church, and your seven-year-old son is being taught about “gender fluidity” in first grade. There is no avenue for you to complain about this. You’ll be called a bigot at the very least. In fact, although you’re not a lawyer, you have a vague sense that you might get fired from your job, or fined, or that something else bad will happen. You also feel that this business has something to do with gay rights. “Sorry,” you ask, “when did I vote for this?” You begin to suspect that taking your voice away from you and taking your vote away from you is the main goal of these rights movements. To you, the other party is a party of totalitarians.
    And that’s our current party system: the bigots versus the totalitarians.
    If either of these constitutions were totally devoid of merit, we wouldn’t have a problem. We could be confident that the wiser of the two would win out in the end. But each of our two constitutions contains, for its adherents, a great deal worth defending to the bitter end. And unfortunately, each constitution must increasingly defend itself against the other.
    When gay marriage was being advanced over the past 20 years, one of the common sayings of activists was: “The sky didn’t fall.” People would say: “Look, we’ve had gay marriage in Massachusetts for three weeks, and I’ve got news for you! The sky didn’t fall!” They were right in the short term. But I think they forgot how delicate a system a democratic constitutional republic is, how difficult it is to get the formula right, and how hard it is to see when a government begins—slowly, very slowly—to veer off course in a way that can take decades to become evident.
    Then one day we discover that, although we still deny the sky is falling, we do so with a lot less confidence.

    JS: Fascinating and Fatal. And Caldwell isn’t even a Racialist much less a White Nationalist. He describes a descending cascade or whirlpool of Totalitarianism without ever even mentioning Race. Valuable for one like me who does value it greatly. A new Constitution, a dynamic one developed in opposition to the Old and official one. And one bereft of a Bill of Rights and opposed in principle to the equality of all People – if you believe that Whites are People and that White Rights are Human Rights. Caldwell does not say this – but it follows from his insights. I merely plug in the value of the variable that he provides.

    If Blacks hadn’t been here, some of the same dynamics could have played out exactly as he describes, but using the poor as pawns instead of minorities.

    • Epicur February 22, 2020 at 9:20 am #

      “I have just published a book that, among other things, suggests why this is.”

      Any attempt at explanation that does not reach back further, at least to the Cambrian, does not have a prayer of being right.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 22, 2020 at 2:38 pm #

        Yes, Race must be taken into account in all things. How can we let Blacks live among us, so alien as they are, descended from different forms of primeval man than us?

        “People” forget that Homo Erectus left Africa a million years ago. Are we to assume that no evolution took place outside of Africa? Such as the evolution of Neanderthal Man? If so, one assumes far too much.

  34. Cargill February 22, 2020 at 4:44 am #

    The following is adapted from a talk delivered on January 28, 2020, at Hillsdale College’s Allan P. Kirby, Jr. Center for Constitutional Studies and Citizenship in Washington, D.C., as part of the AWC Family Foundation lecture series.

    Far too long – didn’t read .. and why don’t you just provide a link, rather than having miles and miles of dreary text, and clogging up bandwidth?

    And my antennae smells BS … any outfit with “Family Foundation” in their name reeks of Tea Party, fruit-loop, Evangelista and Trumpster!

    Anti-women, anti-black, anti-gay .. in fact anti anything that makes life liveable and enjoyable. Party-poopers – came over on the boat with the Puritans – should have stayed in Salem!

    • Janos Skorenzy February 22, 2020 at 5:10 am #

      Johnson: “I’ll have those niggers voting Democrat for the next two hundred years.”

      Cargill snickers and then remembers that he’s supposed to be one of the good guys. He stifles it. His Abo Wife nods her hideous head. She’s gonna learn him even if it takes the rest of his life.

    • BackRowHeckler February 22, 2020 at 6:16 am #

      Do you know where Salem is, Cargill, from, ahem , ‘Australia’?

      • hmuller February 22, 2020 at 11:47 am #

        Good catch BRH, Salem is one of the places to which the Puritans went, not where they came from. But these flaming left wingers are often far less educated and intelligent than they imagine themselves to be.

      • JohnAZ February 22, 2020 at 11:49 am #

        Cargill and Biden

        Really are not sure where anywhere is.

        • hmuller February 22, 2020 at 12:29 pm #

          From Biden to Buttigieg. From hair plugs to butt plugs. This aint my working class father’s Democratic Party no more.

      • Nightowl February 23, 2020 at 4:15 pm #

        Cargill from Media Matters.

  35. Janos Skorenzy February 22, 2020 at 5:06 am #

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/anderson-cooper-calls-bulls-rod-025242120.html

    I love Blago. Of course he was a political prisoner! In other words, why should WASPS, Irish American, Italian Americans, Jews, and Jewish Catholics have all the fun when it comes to bullshitting their way to fame and fortune? Slavs have rights too!

    He did good work for Trump on The Apprentice. Of course he has the right to have his sentence commuted. This is America.

    New documentary: Cargill’s America. Leftist Australian of unknown heritage travels across our would be nation looking for the real America.

    • PeteAtomic February 22, 2020 at 9:11 am #

      “New documentary: Cargill’s America. Leftist Australian of unknown heritage travels across our would be nation looking for the real America.”

      Cargill better watch out for Jim Kunstler’s “henchmen” LOL

    • JohnAZ February 22, 2020 at 11:47 am #

      Cargill is looking for Amerika.

      • hmuller February 22, 2020 at 11:52 am #

        Cargill probably fears traveling across America, being captured by a Trump cult, and brainwashed into chanting anti-immigration slogans while wearing a red MAGA hat.

  36. Janos Skorenzy February 22, 2020 at 5:36 am #

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/steven-spielbergs-daughter-mikaela-becoming-161720473.html

    His mulatto daughter is planning on becoming a porn star. The parents are “supportive”! Oh Irony. The Rulers are now falling into pits and nets they set for us.

    The bright side for them: She doesn’t plan on engaging with any real person. So her “films” are going to be just her playing with herself? She’s not very good looking. Some mulatto women are – but not this one. No one is going to want to watch her and it’s just complete nonsense. Hopefully (for her) someday she will be very embarrassed by this. She’s talked it over with her “fiancé” – more nonsense.

    Just unwinding after a tough shift. Keeping it real. The nitty does get gritty. Don’t have to work tomorrow so I can get to the Gun Show and get more survival gear. Going to turn in now so over and out. No doubt I’ll be attacked by Kabbalistic Magicians on the Astral Plane, but I am ready for them.

    • malthuss February 22, 2020 at 10:59 am #

      I posted about this, earlier.

      But I put daughter in quotes.

    • hmuller February 22, 2020 at 11:57 am #

      It sounds like any corona virus walking zombies asking for food at your door will get a mouthful of shotgun. If they’re dark, they won’t get as far as the door. LOL

    • elysianfield February 22, 2020 at 12:13 pm #

      Janos,
      Yes. I would assume that had Spielberg a son who was a pederast he would celebrate the fact that his progeny likes to work with children….

      Do you think Spielberg sincere? How do his Landsmen “friends” relate to him at Synagogue? Perhaps there is a basic sea change of which we are not privy? Perhaps having a daughter work the pole is now something to celebrate?

      The daughter chooses sex work from a position of privilege. Would Kesa have made the same choice, if she had had means?

      Probably not.

  37. BackRowHeckler February 22, 2020 at 6:41 am #

    It looks like Bernie Sandals is poised for a big win in Nevada!

    Bernie Sandals/Stacy Abrams 2020!

    Aha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

    Trump is shaking in his boots.

    All we need now is a catchy, top notch slogan.

    Brh

    • PeteAtomic February 22, 2020 at 9:10 am #

      The Sanders campaign realizes that blacks won’t vote for him unless they glue Stacy Abrams (or really any other black person) onto him. Sanders already has the socialist & wokester faction on his side, so its just identarian politics at work.

      I’m not convinced Sanders will be the nominee.

      • Majella February 23, 2020 at 7:05 pm #

        The Nevada result showed 27% of the black vote went to Bernie and 39% to Biden.

        That’s not a huge gap, and when Biden finally gives up the ghost a lot of those will be headed to Sanders.

        the Stacy Abrams question is a long way off as yet.

    • malthuss February 22, 2020 at 11:12 am #

      who would vote for a man that old and that ill?
      people alarm me with their lack of sense.

      [common sense isnt common].

      • hmuller February 22, 2020 at 12:00 pm #

        If he knows the cure for getting up 6 times a night to pee, I’d consider voting for him.

        • elysianfield February 22, 2020 at 12:25 pm #

          hmuller,
          Just learn to like it…I have.

          • elysianfield February 22, 2020 at 12:34 pm #

            Reminds me of a story…

            Three old men were sitting, one early afternoon, on a park bench.

            The first man exclaims that he is constipated, considers it a real problem, and that he wishes it were otherwise.

            The second man then states…”You think you got problems? I can’t pee…I stand for 15 minutes at the toilet with no issue!”

            The third man then tells the others; “You guys have no problems…why, every morning, at 6 AM sharp I take a huge, steaming dump,. and then pee like a racehorse.”

            The first old man asks the third, “Well then, what’s the problem?”

            The third man states…”problem is I don’t wake up until 8:00….

          • Janos Skorenzy February 22, 2020 at 2:40 pm #

            Your arm is shot and you don’t see near as good as you used to. So you’re going to be the Outfielder in this kind of beisball.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUdr8yupdwo&pbjreload=10

            The nasty little guy is Cargill.

          • messianicdruid February 22, 2020 at 2:44 pm #

            Using the opportunity for a perimeter check and share some nitrogen with the fruit trees, two birds one pebble.

      • Majella February 23, 2020 at 7:07 pm #

        He doesn’t look ‘that ill’, malthuss.

        As one exchange with Bloomberg pointed out, they both have two stents. Bloomberg’s was some 25 years ago, so clearly they work.

    • malthuss February 22, 2020 at 11:21 am #

      why not Michelle as VP? Or Oprah? Or [insert famous blacks name]?

    • elysianfield February 22, 2020 at 12:38 pm #

      “All we need now is a catchy, top notch slogan”.

      BRH,

      “Next Year, Wakanda!”
      Bernie 2020

  38. sleek111 February 22, 2020 at 8:21 am #

    As I report from this region of the global insane aslyum known as “America”, it has become clear to me that the incessant loud screaming and howling from the inmates indicates a need for more electric shock therapy, in as much as everyone here has already had their lobotomy.

    • Epicur February 22, 2020 at 9:13 am #

      No doubt “therapy” is coming our way, but I wouldn’t be in too much of a hurry to see its arrival.

      To quote the Bible, “Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.”

      IOW, we should be careful what we wish for.

      • Pucker February 22, 2020 at 10:03 am #

        What do you suppose Stalin meant by this statement?

        “Even more than machines, tanks, aeroplanes, we need human souls.”
        – Stalin

        • JohnAZ February 22, 2020 at 11:43 am #

          Maybe referring to the battle of Stalingrad where guts and determination overcame technology.

  39. Katie Weddington February 22, 2020 at 9:40 am #

    There’s something very satisfying about this piece. So much so I went through the trouble of registering to leave this comment.

    Perhaps now that I’ve read every word, twice, I no longer have that burning desire to sound off on the first person to ask me what I think of Russiagate 2.0. I can’t anymore. I just can’t take it anymore. And I was a Democrat just 10 short years ago.

    You have expressed my own feelings perfectly, and I may copy and paste this article to my social media accounts, a landscape devoid of politics, just so people will know not to ask me that question.

    Thank you kindly. 🙂

    • stelmosfire February 22, 2020 at 10:09 am #

      What more can I say, “A picture is worth a thousand words”. Now we have proof of collusion!
      https://realfunny.net/picture-5790-topless-vladimir-putin-and-donald-trump-riding-a-horse-.html

      • GreenAlba February 22, 2020 at 10:15 am #

        Indeed, StE, and Trump has even had a body transplant to match, proving that imitation is indeed the sincerest form of flattery. 🙂

      • hmuller February 22, 2020 at 5:28 pm #

        If they ever do a sequel to Brokeback Mountain, I think we’ve found the actors.

      • EvelynV February 23, 2020 at 5:03 am #

        Obviously a phony photo. “Brokeback” would be referring to the horse if fat bastard’s weight was added to it. The horse should be a Budweiser horse for realism.

        • hmuller February 23, 2020 at 8:09 am #

          They call them “Clydesdales”.

    • JohnAZ February 22, 2020 at 11:41 am #

      You are still a Democrat if you favor the interests of the working folks. Like JHK, the Party made a sharp left turn and left you behind.

  40. Pucker February 22, 2020 at 10:19 am #

    Which would you rather do: Strive tirelessly, like Bernie Sanders and the Millennial Progressives on “The Young Turks”, to build a Com…munist Utopia? Or, drive a Chrysler Córdoba?

    • elysianfield February 23, 2020 at 12:21 pm #

      ” Or, drive a Chrysler Córdoba?”

      Puck,
      Tough choice…does it have rich Corinthian leather?

  41. wwg1wga February 22, 2020 at 10:57 am #

    …and NOW you have the rest of the story.
    http://www.got-truth.com/docs/and%20NOW%20you%20have%20the%20rest%20of%20the%20story.pdf

  42. Pucker February 22, 2020 at 11:14 am #

    Apparently, the Bolshevik leaders were big hypochondriacs. A third of the letters between the Bolshevik leaders fixated on all their health problems.

    I bet that this Covid 19 virus is a nightmare for the Chinese Com..,munist leadership in Beijing and their families?

    “ “Let’s drink to the health of Comrade Stalin,” called out the poet Lugovskoi. The novelist Nikoforov jumped up and said: “I’m fed up with this! We’ve drunk Stalin’s health one million one hundred and forty-seven thousand times. He’s probably fed up with it himself . . .”

    Stalin: The Court of the Red Tsar
    Simon Sebag Montefiore

    • SoftStarLight February 22, 2020 at 12:06 pm #

      Well you may want to avoid crowds. It’s probably here to stay. It will repeat several times. Our casual, disorganized, and disordered culture is not ready. Even the brute authoritarians can’t control it. The numbers are make believe. Its orders of magnitude worse. We don’t have enough ICU beds.

      • volodya February 22, 2020 at 12:17 pm #

        You’re probably right. I’ll bet a lot of people caught it and died from it last year and I’ll bet the Commies tried to cover it up.

        They don’t bloody learn, not least they’re not learning the basics of sanitation and hygiene to forestall these disease outbreaks. I don’t know what it takes to get through their heads over yonder that such considerations aren’t just white-man frivolities, but rather impact robust, rock-ribbed Chinese as much as pale and frail caucasians. Fine if only they die but these diseases spread and everyone suffers for their idiocy.

        • SoftStarLight February 22, 2020 at 12:54 pm #

          Actually an Italian man died due to the virus yesterday I believe. He was a native European. There is also an epidemic in Iran and five people have died thusfar. The Iranians are not East Asian. Perhaps we have been told that only East Asians succumb to the virus so that we are even more reckless and careless in our handling of it? As it is, infected people were flown in despite CDC orders.

          • hmuller February 22, 2020 at 5:42 pm #

            I’m really curious – when will the realization sink in among Americans? Aside from getting sick and dying, there’s the problem of being home quarantined, supply channels disrupted, grocery store shelves emptied, medicines out of stock.

            Look at the Chinese. That could be us in a few weeks. How’s your pantry looking? My philosophy: Panic early and panic often!

          • SoftStarLight February 23, 2020 at 2:46 pm #

            It seems really surreal to me too. I agree. I think it’s better to overthink something like this and then just hope for the best. Seems to be the best course of action with a brand new virus.

          • GreenAlba February 24, 2020 at 9:49 am #

            There is no shortage of reasons to wean ourselves off cheap Chinese goodies:

            https://www.pharmaceutical-journal.com/news-and-analysis/features/india-and-china-spark-concerns-for-uk-drug-supplies/20206998.article?firstPass=false

  43. malthuss February 22, 2020 at 11:19 am #

    This is for Bill, who thinks I hate mexicans,

    Ever since 1993, when Janet Reno and Hillary Clinton decided that the FBI crime statistics would count Mestizos as “White” when they committed violent crimes, but magically turn them brown again when they were victims, it’s been deliberately made very difficult to get hard data. Back then some people spoke of a 27:1 ratio–not 2.7 times, twenty-seven times–of violent crimes committed per capita, based on pre-1993 FBI crime statistics, but without more recent confirmation, who can be sure exactly what the current figure is?
    the inherent assumption that White high-school students and Mexican gangbangers are equally likely to commit murder is absurd.

    and wonders why I dislike certain groups [including wiggers],

    Afro male and his 18-year-old coal burner girlfriend used their car against two white boys on bicycles in Indiana. Ghetto-Becky strikes the same pose as Jontavius.

    Perry-Jones allegedly threatened to beat the boys up for calling 911, court records state.

    In the video, Perry-Jones also said that if police questioned him about it, he would just say the boys called him a racial slur.

    During the encounter, Perry-Jones allegedly drove his car through several yards, chasing them.

    https://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/boys-riding-bikes-with-trump-flags-ran-off-road-police/article_18ead463-9450-5968-8ef2-91683b2bd6c6.html

    • beantownbill. February 22, 2020 at 4:10 pm #

      i could compare the white and non-white crime rates as a percentage of their respective populations to make a point, but I won’t bother. You have your feelings and I have mine, and never the twain shall meet.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 22, 2020 at 11:17 pm #

        Because the only point you could logically make would be his and mine and not yours.

        Thus you take refuge in the irrational (feelings) and of course, the Will – your collective desire to displace the White Man from his own Civilization.

      • malthuss February 23, 2020 at 6:31 pm #

        Well, from 3% of USAs total population is drawn most murderers. NOT all of that 35, most are decent [only 1 in 3 is a convicted felon]…
        now whats your point?

  44. malthuss February 22, 2020 at 11:20 am #

    What do people make of Blago and his being freed?

    I always got the sense hes a sociopath.

    • JohnAZ February 22, 2020 at 11:37 am #

      Nope, just another corrupted Elitist that thought he was smarter than anyone else.

    • volodya February 22, 2020 at 12:12 pm #

      Can’t remember where I heard it, but supposedly Blago knew he was being listened in on when he was mouthing off about getting something for that senate seat, ie as if he was playing some dramatic movie role or something. If this was true you wonder what was going on inside his head. Very dumb. Didn’t he know better?

  45. Pucker February 22, 2020 at 12:14 pm #

    Like the Bolsheviks in the former Soviet Union and the “Progressives” of today, do you believe in the perfectibility of the “New Man”? Or, do you believe in the Fine Corinthian Leather of the Chrysler Córdoba?

  46. Pucker February 22, 2020 at 12:15 pm #

    Has anyone ever read the book “The Fourth U-Turning”?

    • SoftStarLight February 22, 2020 at 1:27 pm #

      You mean “The Fourth Turning”? I haven’t read it but I’ve heard about it. I should probably add it to my growing library. Some day for sure I’ll read all those books! You know, having an actual real book is a good prep for an EMP.

    • beantownbill. February 22, 2020 at 4:13 pm #

      Doesn’t making an even number of u-turns make you end up in the same direction?

  47. Pucker February 22, 2020 at 1:02 pm #

    The Bolsheviks hated the Russian peasantry in the same way that the “Progressives” today despise the Deplorables.

    Stalin: The Court of the Red Tsar
    Simon Sebag Montefiore

    • K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 1:30 pm #

      I think I have it figured out. Whenever you make up shit to be provocative you put it in “quotes”. What you really want in quotes is “Deplorable Progressives”.

  48. volodya February 22, 2020 at 1:10 pm #

    So, in this media environment of howling nonsense, where the organs of state do their utmost to upend elections or, barring that, to stymie duly elected officials, we get a report out of zerohedge that a certain paid-up member of an informal congressional group known colloquially as the squad, married her brother. Why, you ask? So he could get into the US.

    Have you seen any of this in any mainstream media? I haven’t. How much credulity do we give this? I don’t know, it sounds hard to believe, but then we live in a world where actual events outstrip believability. I mean, in 2015 how many people gave Trump a chance? Yet here he is.

    In any case, let’s ask a question, what if it were Trump that was alleged to have married someone he ought not to have. Like a sibling. Like when he was still married to one of his many present-day and ex-wives. Like wow, the shit-storm would put to shame the great, multi-century Jovian vortex known here on Earth as the Great Red Spot. Maddow would be all over it like ugly on an ape, likewise a more than eager bevy of msm journalists and pundits whose relationship with reason, reasonableness, logic, facts and evidence is more than sketchy.

    But no, we’re stuck with this boring, tiresome, laughable baloney about Russia.

    • GreenAlba February 22, 2020 at 1:34 pm #

      “Have you seen any of this in any mainstream media?”

      Yes, it’s been in the Daily Mail. And loads of other places.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8013283/Ilhan-Omar-DID-marry-brother-reveals-Somali-community-leader.html

      • SoftStarLight February 22, 2020 at 1:40 pm #

        Yep it has been around a bit here and there. It just goes to show how the immigration system is so racked with fraud. Another failed aspect of society that needs to be shut down.

        • K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 1:51 pm #

          If you were in her shoes would you have helped your brother like this? By shoes I mean it, he is in a dangerous place and you can get him safe.

          What are you going to do. Family First? What is is going to be gurl.

          • K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 1:52 pm #

            What is it going to be.

          • BackRowHeckler February 22, 2020 at 2:04 pm #

            “In her shoes”

            Don’t you mean “in her sandals”?

            Brh

          • SoftStarLight February 22, 2020 at 3:29 pm #

            Good point. I admit you tug at my heart strings with that. But I remember how many illegal aliens are here in our country and they have no concerns or worries about their status because many citizens are quite supportive. She didn’t have to go that far to ensure he stayed. Aren’t they in Minnesota? They adore Somalis there. He’s in good hands no doubt.

          • hmuller February 22, 2020 at 6:00 pm #

            K-Dog, Ilhan Omar’s brother was not hiding in the ruins of Mogadishu eating rats. He was very comfortably living the gay life in London. Her family wanted to separate him from those “bad influences”, hence the marriage to get him into the USA, specifically Minneapolis (where there are no gay influences).

            https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7258833/Trump-claims-theres-lot-talk-Ilhan-Omar-married-brother.html

          • PeteAtomic February 23, 2020 at 8:47 am #

            SoftStarLight:
            “She didn’t have to go that far to ensure he stayed. Aren’t they in Minnesota? They adore Somalis there.”

            No, we don’t.. they are completely foreign to the culture here, and they have zero interest in assimilation.

            Thousands of them have crossed illegally into Manitoba after Trump got into office, fearing their lost immigration cases would get them deported. They can uber Elrond around Winnipeg now.

          • Elrond Hubbard February 23, 2020 at 10:42 pm #

            PeteAtomic: “they have zero interest in assimilation.”

            If Ilhan Omar getting elected to Congress doesn’t indicate an interest in assimilation, what on earth possibly could? Hard to fathom the depth of denial that could lead someone to contradict reality this starkly.

            And Winnipeg isn’t anywhere near where I live. This, however, is:

            http://www.somalicanadian.com/

            With funding from the Ontario Ministry of Children and Youth Services, their Youth Entrepreneurship Program “provides youth ages 15-29 … with structured training, business resources, pre-launch coaching, ongoing mentoring and start-up financing of up to $1,500 to help youth launch and sustain successful businesses.” So by all means, send ’em our way — they’re an investment in Canada’s future. They and their kids will be contributing members of society in no time.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 22, 2020 at 1:56 pm #

        https://www.amren.com/news/2020/02/a-playwright-wants-only-critics-of-color-to-review-her-heres-what-our-own-critics-think/

        If Whites aren’t qualified to review a piece, then by the same coin they are “unqualified” to pay for ticket and view it. She is really saying that there is nothing in it for them, as they are just too ignorant by nature to understand her work. Whites should take her at her word, and stay away and otherwise just completely ignore her. Instead let them focus on their own culture which they can understand, appreciate, and discuss amongst themselves.

        Critics of color? As if an East Indian would have anymore appreciation of American Indians than a White would.

        Are you saying Ilhan didn’t marry her own brother because it’s in the Daily Mail? Logical fail! So what if she did? You don’t understand because you’re just a White.

        • malthuss February 22, 2020 at 3:16 pm #

          did you check the comments?

          ‘An educated White might enjoy it and understand it more than an immigrant illiterate Afro’

          and

          ‘Since when does an artist get to choose the critics. what gall.’

        • SoftStarLight February 22, 2020 at 3:43 pm #

          Another example that so called reverse racism is acceptable and normal. I agree that Whites should ignore and should disassociate from their Babylon altogether. Its doomed to fall apart anyway. Segregation is a good thing here. That way she expresses herself in her safe echo chamber. And we are spared from the annoyance of her hang ups and prejudices.

        • GreenAlba February 23, 2020 at 8:10 am #

          “Are you saying Ilhan didn’t marry her own brother because it’s in the Daily Mail? Logical fail! ”

          Who are you addressing? If it’s me, I was merely pointing out that the story is in the mainstream media. I find this happens often on this website, that someone claims a story is ignored by the mainstream media when it’s been right there in a dozen mainstream outlets you can find in 5 seconds. Repeatedly. I haven’t the slightest reason to think it’s not true. Nor do I think, in the context of your immigration laws, that it’s OK. I am especially disinclined to think such things are OK when they’re done by people who are not exactly desperate refugees, but rather capable people who know how to work the ropes.

          Logical fail. You let your emotions run away with you again.

      • PeteAtomic February 24, 2020 at 9:57 am #

        Elrond:

        The Somali are a tribal society in which you, Elrond, will always be an ‘ajnabi’.

        that’s their word for foreigner.

        Omar is a racist identarian, corrupt, power hungry politician who ‘married’ her homosexual brother so he could move to the US.

        The Somali population wants nothing to do with Minnesota, particularly the native black population of this state, which they consider slaves.

    • SoftStarLight February 22, 2020 at 1:36 pm #

      Yep V! The double standards are very in your face now. But why not? They completely get away with it and so the double standards and tiered caste system they are crafting will only expand. Force must be met with force. Punch and counter punch and all that. Or we segregate. Imagine that! It would be better in the end. But few can see. But yeah really, wtf about Russia? What is Russia? A small country with a ton of nukes trying to stay out of the Globalist order. Let em go. Who cares? You think they are influencing elections? Please! Dead people vote.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 22, 2020 at 1:58 pm #

        He’s for a divided America because that’s what helped his people to take over. The weaker we are, the stronger they are. His V is inverted, thus creating the Pyramid of Power seen on the dollar bill.

        • K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 2:02 pm #

          We agree again. These are indeed strange days.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 22, 2020 at 2:43 pm #

            It’s you who are growing to see me as I am for the first time. I’m only behind because I’ve almost lapped the pack.

        • SoftStarLight February 22, 2020 at 3:33 pm #

          A symbol that must be removed from our new society. Along with the Statue of Liberty. I see the hungry and poor right here to tend to.

    • K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 1:45 pm #

      Or believability is outstripping actual events! A manifestly unqualified criminal sits in the White House and people think this is a natural thing. A wolf in a golden fleece stalks while Russia distracts the flock.

      • BackRowHeckler February 22, 2020 at 3:48 pm #

        We need to start looking at Bernie Sandals links to Russia, for example, why did he choose Moscow as his honeymoon spot? I can think of better places for a honeymoon. Did Trump honeymoon in Russia? I don’t think so, just as Trump might be the only top level pol in all of DC who DID NOT score, and score big, with the Ukraine jackpot. Everybody else, from John Podesta, to Hunter Biden, to the Clinton’s has been raking in major league swag from Kiev since about 1990.

        Brh

        • K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 4:14 pm #

          Why would Trump get hooked up in Ukraine when he is already hooked up in Russia? His connections there go back years. Besides, he could not do it. All you get from the menu is one from column A or one from column B with a side of Stan. Trumped already picked Russia.

        • EvelynV February 23, 2020 at 6:33 am #

          BRH

          Did Bernie have Russian whores piss on him?

          The scuttlebutt says the fat bastard did.

          • hmuller February 23, 2020 at 9:19 am #

            Please try to keep up Evelyn. That scuttlebutt has been rebutted. Although in your mind it never can be. Every Trump hating lie sticks like glue. And then you deny having Trump Derangement Syndrome. The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem.

          • EvelynV February 23, 2020 at 2:49 pm #

            Oh yeah hmuller

            Wasn’t that about the same time they rebutted that fat piggy bastard had sex with prostitute?

            I do agree with your insistence that he’s deranged however so besides your amusing sense of humor and generally benign behavior on this savagely insane at times forum, we do have some common ground between us.

      • hmuller February 23, 2020 at 9:25 am #

        K-Dog, this week you’re sounding like a Rachel Maddow cult zombie. “The Russians are coming, the Russians did it, the Russians will stuff the ballot boxes!”

    • Nightowl February 23, 2020 at 5:23 pm #

      RE: Omar, indie media has been covering it for well over a year.

      Just another grifter. She also had an affair with a pudgy white dude, who she now lives with. This is, ofc, hilarious on multiple levels.

  49. Tate February 22, 2020 at 2:17 pm #

    Korea isn’t ‘blessed’ with a native parasitic species as we have in America. Korea is a highly homogenous culture where the whole works in ‘surprising’ (to us Westerners) harmony with itself. Thus the movie Parasite can be taken as an allegory of the danger that a culture faces from ‘the Other.’ That is to say, if the rich family in the film represents the culture itself, then the gutter family who infiltrates their lives is the nepotistic culture that comes ‘home’ to live in the rich culture’s idyllic household & who take over all functions necessary to keep things running smoothly. It is a warning that the Korean writer & filmmaker are sending to its audience, a universal message that the Hollywood academy members unironically embraced.

    Step by step, with a deadly & methodical intent, conspiring all the way, the parasitic basement-dwellers with their ne’er-do-well ethics, worm their way subtly into the rich family’s lives, by a series of tinsel recommendations & clever tricks, depriving the native help of their jobs as their plot unfolds. It is so ingenious a system that the rich innocents don’t even notice the situation they’ve put themselves in. Of course, they totally underestimate the wiles of their supposed inferiors, mistaking social status for humble aspirations.

    Then it all culminates in a rained-out camping trip whereupon the parasitic ‘help’ let down their guard & plunder the rich family’s booze supply in a sodden orgy. Next follows a plot twist which I won’t give away but which fits into an allegorical parallel of how the trusting bourgeois rich cannot help but be preyed upon by everyone below them, even in benign aspect.

    The last part of the film makes use of Morse code as a metaphor for how ‘the Other’ cleverly signals to its own without the dominant folk being any the wiser.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 22, 2020 at 2:46 pm #

      One is reminded of the Black Japanese, “Miss Universe”, speaking glibly about how they’re won’t be hardly any old Japanese in another century or so.

      Only the Samurai Spirit can save them and its Korean equivalent in Korea.

      • K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 3:13 pm #

        A parasite that kills the host is not a good parasite.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 22, 2020 at 3:37 pm #

          There are no good parasites from the pov of the host.

          Review your Zen Buddhism, as per the teachings of Hakuin. All human relationships can be summarized in terms of guest and host. The parasite is a bad guest. Mature relationships are host/host. Teenage romances are nearly all guest/guest.

          In other words, the host is the superior or elder brother; the guest the inferior (ignorant, immature, etc) younger brother.

          • K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 3:45 pm #

            Mature relationships are host/host. Teenage romances are nearly all guest/guest.

            This is an authentic pearl of wisdom.

          • Cargill February 22, 2020 at 5:00 pm #

            There are no good parasites from the pov of the host.

            Read your science a bit more comrade (Biology 101) – there are millions – possibly billions – of symbiotic relationships, where the host benefits from the co-evolved parasite.

            In many cases, the host would not even be alive if it were not for the benefit its parasites provide … what happens in the human gut is a good example.

            Korea isn’t ‘blessed’ with a native parasitic species as we have in America. Korea is a highly homogenous culture where the whole works in ‘surprising’ (to us Westerners) harmony with itself.

            Korean culture is scary and awful … it’s a “good” case of what happens when a monoculture is allowed to thrive for far too long without healthy input, competition, or challengers, and where its members think they are the duck’s guts.

            Give me the vigour and fun of a multicultural society any day.

          • EvelynV February 23, 2020 at 6:30 am #

            Janos

            Cargill just kicked your ass with his intelligent rebuttal to your inane blathering.

            What is your response?

            Keep in mind, foolish people mistakenly think admitting they were wrong is weakness.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 23, 2020 at 10:48 am #

            Evie: Apples and Oranges. A symbiote is not a parasite. You want us destroyed, right? Are you a symbiote?

            Ass kicked.

          • EvelynV February 23, 2020 at 2:58 pm #

            No Janos,

            Apple and oranges are both round, approximately the same size, edible, grow on trees, can be attacked by bugs, have outer peelings, thrive in sunlight, require water, are vital agricultural product in many regions of the country, cost approximately the same – the list of commonalities extensive.

            But on more relevant matters, during my academic period in life I was taught there were three kinds of parasitism, some good, most not so good for a host. Symbiotic parasites were examples of the sometimes good types.

            You should take some refresher courses.

            And leave off on hypocritical Zen references. “To argue is to lose the meaning of the way.”

        • SoftStarLight February 22, 2020 at 3:50 pm #

          Well and too, even if the host lives there is some loss of health and functionality at the very least. Would you agree to be a host for tapeworms? Ewww! The nation is a body too.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 22, 2020 at 7:06 pm #

            And ILL Han is just such a tapeworm as is her bro. She may be fine back in her own country. But she’d have to act like a normal Muslim woman there – and that’s means shutting up and covering up. Bet she wouldn’t like that….

          • SoftStarLight February 23, 2020 at 2:43 pm #

            Haha! I bet you in reality she would be the last one to. Very hypocritical on all accounts as far as I can see.

        • elysianfield February 23, 2020 at 12:27 pm #

          ” parasite that kills the host is not a good parasite.”

          Dog,
          Don’t be so goddamned judgmental…it might be a good parasite, but not a successful one.

    • BackRowHeckler February 22, 2020 at 3:29 pm #

      One is also reminded of the Simpsons episode when carny grifters worm their way into Marge and Homer’s house, and eventually take it over, summarily destroying the place, while the Simpson family ends up out on the street. One of the best episodes ever, right up there with the Flaming Moes.

      Brh

    • K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 3:44 pm #

      The Morse code at the end, yes perhaps. But it could be like the signal in the movie ‘On The Beach’. Who taps out the signal?

      The Sawfish an American sub under Australian naval command travels to San Fransisco after a nuclear holocaust to see who is alive. The radio signal they hunt down turns out to be a microphone tapping against a wall blown by a breeze. Nothing in America lives. Nothing in the Northern Hemisphere lives.

      The Tapping in the movie ‘On the Beach’ is a symbol of futility. Like comments made on a book authors website in the last days of a dying empire. The Morse code in Parasite could be the same thing, death throes.

      Or it could be hope, your choice. Whatever gets you through the day.

      A theme Bong’s movies is that violence permanently changes things for the worse. Violence makes a bad situation into a horror from which there is no escape. In Snowpiercer violence leads to collective suicide when reality presents terms not worth being alive for. In Parasite violence leads to a prison from which there is no escape. In both movies violence solves nothing.

      • K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 3:47 pm #

        A theme in Bong’s movies

        • BackRowHeckler February 22, 2020 at 3:55 pm #

          Speaking of violence, a shootout in Bloomfield, Ct last night. 2 dead. Just a generation ago Bloomfield was a yankee town of dairy and tobacco farms. It makes you dizzy how fast things have changed. Developers moved in. Apartment blocks were built. Farms are gone, Section 8 rules. It’s a bloody mess.

          Brh

          • K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 4:07 pm #

            Too many rabbits humping in the meadow.

          • BackRowHeckler February 22, 2020 at 4:13 pm #

            There are no more meadows, all have been plowed under and paved over.

          • K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 4:16 pm #

            Exactly!

          • Cargill February 22, 2020 at 4:49 pm #

            It makes you dizzy how fast things have changed.

            Makes me sad when I read such stuff – and I’ll preface my comments by stating that Oz has far fewer people, far fewer poor people, far fewer guns, far fewer gun-nuts, and generally less livi8ng pressure.

            And while there are a significant number of rural towns that have continued to decline (*a result of drought, and a drain of young people), overall, the “bush” as it’s called here is doing very well – it has reinvented itself.

            So towns like Bloomfield CT now thrive with great dining, great coffee, arts, crafts, other attractions – and lots of people from bigger cities who have done a tree-change, and they LOVE the towns they have adopted.

            Driving through so much of rural Oz is now rather more interesting than it was when I was a lad, when the John Deere showroom was the most interesting thing around.

          • BackRowHeckler February 22, 2020 at 5:20 pm #

            Do you know what Section 8 is, Cargill?

  50. BackRowHeckler February 22, 2020 at 3:31 pm #

    One question tho: are all Koreans named either Park or Kim?

    • Janos Skorenzy February 22, 2020 at 3:49 pm #

      According to Moon, Korea is the Center of the Universe. Both Adam and Christ failed in their mission to start a new Race. But he, MOON, succeeded.

      One Moonie girl flirted with me by telling me she like my watch. Pretty lame. But she was from Korea, right off the boat. What can you expect? My brother told me he knew a guy who was engaged to a girl in the Church, scheduled to for one of their mass marriages of thousands of couples. They went to a movie and his knee touched her. She freaked out and started saying, Not until after the wedding.

      • stelmosfire February 22, 2020 at 7:17 pm #

        Ah! Grasshopper! I doubt if a snowflake could actually grab the pebble, unless it was handed to them. I figure I could grab the pebble at 0:36 I am a viper! Vlad pay attention! I may be old but my reflexes are razor sharp. BOO! GOTCHA!
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzaWAEhFWpw

        • Janos Skorenzy February 22, 2020 at 11:25 pm #

          Did you see what I posted to E? If you want to be a pitcher, I’ll make you a pitcher. The catchers are the guys painted blue.

          It’s like the ancient battle site they found in North Africa between Whites and Blacks. Both were “paleo” types – heavy boned and massively muscled. But the Whites had the bows and the Blacks caught the arrows. And they never caught up…..

          • BackRowHeckler February 23, 2020 at 11:59 am #

            Look up the ‘Whirling Dervishes’, when the British Army first deployed the Maxim Machine Gun against a tribal people.

            Winston Churchill was witness to this event, and wrote it all down.

            Brh

    • K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 3:49 pm #

      The four most common surnames (Kim, Lee, Park and Choi) account for about half the population.

    • Cargill February 23, 2020 at 12:39 am #

      Do you know what Section 8 is, Cargill?

      I understood Section meant housing assistance for the ferals. No?

      Helps make the point(s) of my observation, I reckon.

      • malthuss February 23, 2020 at 6:44 pm #

        I read Jim Rigers bestseller [s].
        He mentioned Japan and Korea as being moribund.
        He dont like Indians [dot] either.
        Oddly, he likes China and now lives in Singapore and his daughters [the buzzard is 73-74 and has 2 young children] who just got some award, if I recall.

        Korea exists because of USA…No ugly yankees, no Korea. Financially or otherwise, our might and aid makes it run.

  51. tucsonspur February 22, 2020 at 4:35 pm #

    If the spaghetti doesn’t stick, you must acquit.

    • EvelynV February 22, 2020 at 7:55 pm #

      Could we use a big mac cheeseburger instead of spaghetti, please?

      The fat bastard doesn’t eat what he calls guinnea wop dago food.

      • hmuller February 22, 2020 at 11:51 pm #

        Are you referring to your husband, Evelyn?

        • EvelynV February 23, 2020 at 6:16 am #

          hmuller

          Seems to me you’re being impolite…asking questions about my personal life is a little beyond the pale id’n’it?

          But no – Fat Bastard is aka Tangerine Turd.

  52. tucsonspur February 22, 2020 at 4:45 pm #

    Clint Eastwood likes Bloomberg:

    “We’re really in a p—y generation. Everybody’s walking on eggshells. We see people accusing people of being racist and all kinds of stuff. When I grew up, those things weren’t called racist,” he said.

    Now, he’s changed his tune a bit on Trump.

    While he approves of “certain things” the president has done, he wishes that he would act “in a more genteel way, without tweeting and calling people names. I would personally like for him to not bring himself to that level,” he said.

    Who’s the p—y now, huh Clint?

  53. BackRowHeckler February 22, 2020 at 5:43 pm #

    What do you know about Ben Meng, CIO of CALpers?

    Some people are saying he is a member of the Chinese Communist Party, has pledged to serve the ‘Motherland’, works for PLA Intelligence, and is moving the $500 billion fund for which he is responsible into China and Chinese defense companies.

    Some people are saying lefty Cal is becoming de facto a province of mainland China, and Xi has Newsom by the short hairs. I don’t know how true it is. You hear all kinds of crazy stuff.

    Maybe that explains why California is such a goddam mess. It wouldn’t take much for a few Chinese Marine Divisions to land unopposed in Baja and move north, accompanied by units of the Mexican army. In LA they’d end the homeless problem real quick, hose down the streets, then commence cleaning out Hollywood Babylon. Haha! Then SF could deploy their new Tranny Division, if the Tranny Division is combat ready yet. Where’s the USS Harvey Milk? And how good are these tranny soldiers at digging trenches? China would promise Mexico that they’d be getting back what they lost in 1848, but is there any doubt who really would be the boss? Who’s the coolie now, Governor Newsom?

    Brh

    • tucsonspur February 22, 2020 at 7:32 pm #

      Yes, he of the “thousand talents.”

      “In human life, if there is an opportunity to serve the motherland, such responsibility and honor cannot be compared to anything,” Meng told the paper.”

      https://www.nationalreview.com/news/jim-banks-urges-firing-of-californias-public-pension-head-over-ties-to-chinas-thousand-talents-program/

      • K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 7:55 pm #

        This is literately follow the money. I did.

        The steps are emblematic of Mr. Meng’s overhaul of the $389 billion fund known as Calpers. Now as his first year comes to a close, Calpers has cut ties with a longstanding manager on a hometown project, jettisoned underperforming stock pickers, and slowed work on a multibillion-dollar private-equity experiment.

        Obviously someone with a bad paper does not want to get caught and this guy is relentless in getting the Calpers fund earning 7% to meet obligations in tough times.

        This propaganda is tragic because it immediately explodes on the first click. The tragedy is nine out ten people won’t click to find out what is going on. Instead cus they don’t click they are dicks and pricks.

      • K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 7:59 pm #

        Calpers CEO Marcie Frost praised Mr. Meng for taking “a hard look at the portfolio.”

        “He’s doing exactly what he was hired to do,” she said.

    • Cargill February 23, 2020 at 1:18 am #

      You hear all kinds of crazy stuff.

      Have you considered that it might be a function of the crazy stuff you choose to read? But your flights of fancy down very weird rabbit-holes has a certain entertainment value.

      And your obsession with race and sexual orientation is kind of creepy – it has to be said. Are these the only prisms through which you’re able to view the world?

      • BackRowHeckler February 23, 2020 at 2:43 pm #

        My obsession with it? Haha. Have you been watching the Dem debates from, ahem, ‘Australia’? Have you read a recent copy of the NYTs? That’s what it’s all about, my friend. That’s apparently what everything is about.

        Brh

    • Majella February 23, 2020 at 2:49 pm #

      ‘Some people are saying…’ is the least convincing argument opener, Marlin. Now, where do I hear it all the time since the 2016 presidential campaign started…?

      • Nightowl February 23, 2020 at 5:29 pm #

        Indeed. According to various “individuals familiar with the President’s thinking,” all of Maj’s wild spoon-fed, tin-foil-hat specials are true.

        • Majella February 23, 2020 at 7:24 pm #

          Gee, I thought you’d started to ignore me!

          Why am I not surprised to see you’re arrogant enough to claim to be an ‘individual familiar with the President’s thinking’ which would most certainly require an extremely high IQ to decipher, along with professional-level editing skills. You’re just the sycophant for the job.

          • Nightowl February 24, 2020 at 4:03 am #

            Only Maj could end up misunderstanding that comment.

            LOL.

  54. BackRowHeckler February 22, 2020 at 8:34 pm #

    New law in Cambridge, Mass. states illegals operating a motor vehicle without a DL inside city limits will not be arrested. Vehicle registration or insurance apparently not required either. For you, however, an American citizen, if caught without proper ‘papers’, its straight to jail, and your your car towed away to the impound yard. IOW, What a sucker you were to stand in line half the day to renew your license, and send in the $185 to DMV to register your car for 2 years. And if one of these illegals slams into your wife and daughter, driving without a license, drunk, which is not uncommon around here, well, that’s the price that must be paid for being a ‘welcoming community’. Tough sh#t for you, Xenophobe!

    brh

    • K-Dog February 22, 2020 at 9:07 pm #

      Would you rather have people driving without a license?

      Such seemingly lax law enforcement protects the public. If you don’t have a license you get popped no matter who you are. You did not think about that part and only a lunatic would think they are going catch less shit that anyone else for an actual violation.

      I caught your apparently. In other words, you don’t know jack about insurance or registration. I do.

      Once I got rear ended by a Brinks truck doing about thirty while stopped for a red light. I was launched into the air with the nose of my car coming down onto the trunk of the white Malibu in front of me.

      The white Malibu tried to drive away and got about two blocks before the wheels stopped turning. When I came to I learned the white Malibu was owned by an illegal beaner who was scared of being deported. We all got a summons to a court hearing after which I was able to go after Brinks for my damages as the beaner should have been able to. It would have been easier to open the back end of the Brinks trunk and tell us to help ourselves but it took two years and a lawyer to get my settlement. It did not make me rich. I spent it all on tuition and avoided a loan.

      The beaner got screwed. He never showed up to the hearing which is disappointing because he would not have been fucked with at all. It would have offended the peace and dignity of the court but he did not know that. He would have been able to go after Brinks and get paid as he should have been.

      Immigration issues have no place in a traffic proceeding.

      He got screwed out of a very nice car and likely had to move.

      You happy?

      • stelmosfire February 22, 2020 at 9:52 pm #

        What?

        • stelmosfire February 22, 2020 at 9:56 pm #

          “You don’t know jack about insurance or registration. I do.”
          WHAT? You are really showing your bogus BS.

          • stelmosfire February 22, 2020 at 10:02 pm #

            Different US states I guess. the lawyers make the rules and in MA the lawyers rule. Harvard and all.

    • Epicur February 23, 2020 at 8:20 am #

      All more arguments for no-fault insurance, but the trial lawyers are not going to let that happen.

      BTW, if anyone wants to go all moral on me, my brother and his wife were killed by a guy without insurance. Like so much of life, there is no easy answer.

  55. BackRowHeckler February 22, 2020 at 10:58 pm #

    Fighting heating up in Syria again, Russian airpower, Iranian artillery and Syrian infantry assaulting the city of Idbid in NW Syria. Turkeys army and ISIS also involved, with 900,000 civilians caught in the middle and moving toward Turkey. Wow, maybe another 900,000 refugees eventually headed to Europe. I thought that war was over.

    • Majella February 23, 2020 at 7:27 pm #

      Sure, the US involvement is over. Otherwise, it’s all going to plan.

  56. Pucker February 23, 2020 at 8:34 am #

    They think that Stalin may have beat-the-crap out of his wife Nadya just before she shot herself in the heart with the pistol given to her as a gift. Then, the Bolsheviks gave her a big state funeral in which Stalin cried. Stalin was so distraught by her suicide that he spent one night in his room sitting facing the wall spitting on the wall. The Bolsheviks were all whacked out. They basically starved the Russian people, the peasants, the Deplorables. I don’t really get this whole totalitarian change-human-nature, make everybody equal, human betterment, “Progressive” Thang. I’d rather cruise around in brand new Chrysler Córdoba with that new factory-dealer smell.

    • dorn February 23, 2020 at 8:50 am #

      Ricardo Montalbán would be proud.

    • stelmosfire February 23, 2020 at 8:54 am #

      Corinthian cowhides are cushy but Corinthian capitals are capable.

      • stelmosfire February 23, 2020 at 9:33 am #

        Q kicks ass again! Not on the felt but with a bow!
        https://www.fox5ny.com/news/700-pound-black-bear-shot-in-new-jersey-sets-world-record

        • BackRowHeckler February 23, 2020 at 10:42 am #

          RIP

          One wonders just how ‘wild’ a 700 lb New Jersey black bear is. Mr Bear probably spent his entire life dodging traffic, eating out of garbage cans in suburban neighborhoods, and stealing an occasional picnic basket, like Yogi. We had a black bear in our neighborhood a few summers back — not 700 lbs but big enough — who would get into my neighbors pool on hot summer days and just loll around and cool off. DEP finally had to come out. They captured him, and released him out in Nepaug State Forest.

          I’m not against hunting, but killing a bear like that hardly seems sporting.

          Brh

          • stelmosfire February 23, 2020 at 1:49 pm #

            You are totally correct. There is no way a Black bear would get that big in NJ without human interaction. I’ve seen 400 pounders up a tree around here and that is in a suburban neighborhood. In the Rockies a 400 pounder would be the exception.

    • Cargill February 23, 2020 at 12:47 pm #

      I’d rather cruise around in brand new Chrysler Córdoba with that new factory-dealer smell.

      From my experience, American cars are rubbish to drive … give me a good reliable Toyota, Mazda, Honda, etc.

      • Majella February 23, 2020 at 2:56 pm #

        (Now, you’re just LOOKING for trouble! Bet you once drove an FJ Holden…0

        • Cargill February 23, 2020 at 4:12 pm #

          And do you know the most incompetent car company in the world (GM) – apart from being loathsome and slimy – have just pulled out of Australia, despite all sorts of smooth assurances, and $2 billion in incentives from the Oz taxpayer.

          The very ugly side of capitalism – and dreadful products.

          No – I was too young for an FJ Holden, but did have a 1959 FC, and even a 1963 Ford Falcon. And when Japanese cars started reaching Australia in earnest around 1970, we thought it was heaven.

          • Majella February 23, 2020 at 7:31 pm #

            Yes, I’m well aware of the final demise of the Holden brand, though it’s been all but gone for a number of years has it not, with lots of Opel/Vauxhall & Isuzu models branded ‘Holden’?

  57. Pucker February 23, 2020 at 9:32 am #

    Is a Medical Marijuana Card good in all 50 states? Is it transferrable? Can I get a Medical Marijuana Card if I tell the doctor that my back hurts? That I sometimes have trouble sleeping? That I sometimes don’t like people?

    Are any of these “Mama’s Ganga” medical marijuana dispensaries any good?

    • Pucker February 23, 2020 at 9:42 am #

      If you don’t have a medical marijuana card, can a bloke hang out in the parking lot wearing dark sunglasses and a wig and ask a customer going in if he’ll buy some for you?

      • SoftStarLight February 23, 2020 at 2:13 pm #

        Lol the bloke may want to nix the idea of hanging out in the parking lot altogether. A wig? Lol you really are crazy!

  58. Pucker February 23, 2020 at 9:48 am #

    What do you think of Trump’s rodomontade?

    • SoftStarLight February 23, 2020 at 2:23 pm #

      I could put up with it if I had the Wall and an immigration moratorium. But without those things I have no time for it and it makes me feel sick.

  59. stelmosfire February 23, 2020 at 10:46 am #

    I’m not crazy about CNBC but this site has live updates
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/23/coronavirus-latest-updates.html

  60. wwg1wga February 23, 2020 at 11:05 am #

    Come on and STIR IT UP!

    http://www.got-truth.com/docs/Come%20on%20and%20STIR%20IT%20UP.pdf

  61. BackRowHeckler February 23, 2020 at 11:08 am #

    Looks like its Bernie Sandals in Nevada!

    Sanders/Abrams 2020!

    [Campaign slogan undetermined]

    EEh-Yaa!

    Brh

  62. BackRowHeckler February 23, 2020 at 11:16 am #

    How old was Paul Von Hindenburg when he became President of Weimar Germany in the 1920s?

    Brh

  63. Pucker February 23, 2020 at 1:33 pm #

    Stalin had the unique ability to both charm and terrorize people. This is probably necessary to be an effective Administrator? The Chinese seem to appreciate it when you tell them that other people seem nervous around you. They must associate fear with leadership? Hell, I don’t know…. Have you ever starved someone to death?

  64. SoftStarLight February 23, 2020 at 2:03 pm #

    I wonder if the stock market is going to go up this week? They’re still not officially calling it a pandemic are they? Though it sure does appear to be one. It seems like society spends a lot of energy trying to maintain and reinforce the normalcy bias. But if you look at it another way, the end of the world is always just around the corner.

    • K-Dog February 23, 2020 at 2:37 pm #

      And it is always just around the corner. That is what Homeland Security was created for; to keep reality one step around the corner. To communicate with and control mass media through a variety of mechanisms and also to keep public voice suppressed.

      Like this place: https://chasingthesquirrel.com/ as an example. If you are in a TARGET store today you won’t be able to get there. It has been blocked. Hate and Racist content a message says. It is my Website.

      Yes I am pissed.

      • SoftStarLight February 23, 2020 at 2:52 pm #

        Ah well you will be happy to know that I refuse to support Target. They’re one of the worst on this PC cancel culture front. And clearly they have a broad net. I would say eff em but that doesn’t help you. They shouldn’t have that type of power in the first place.

    • Cargill February 24, 2020 at 12:59 am #

      I wonder if the stock market is going to go up this week?

      The NZ, Australian, and East Asian stock markets have been savaged today (Monday). Gambling, travel, and those who are heavy traders with China have been the hardest hit.

      I guess the FTSE and Wall Street might be similar.

  65. volodya February 23, 2020 at 2:48 pm #

    So now it’s Bernie’s getting a hand-up from Putin. 

    But what about the Israelis? In Washington, the Israelis don’t pussy-foot around about their national interests so if you’re looking for meddling, ie lobbying, that’s one rich vein of ore you’d be mining. 

    And someone tell me, where do the Chinese figure in all this, I mean, given the billions they have invested in the US, given that they need the US export market to keep their many, many millions of workers working. You only hear about them when they steal technology, or when they compromise Harvard researchers, or about Huawei, but you never hear about their hidden hands in the electoral process, or about their money, and how often do you hear on the Sunday morning baffle-gab sessions that they’ve bent bureaucrats or elected officials. 

    That’s a tetch strange that there’s no apparent concern. So, the most obvious question, who’s on the Chinese payroll, who have they queered, who’s doing their bidding? 

    With all this Russia hysteria, could it be manufactured for the purpose of diverting attention from the real source of corruption, that gusher of money to the East? Because, in the end, it’s all about money. 

    I tell ya, it’s all smoke and mirrors and billionaires and Pentagoons and intel baffoons. But, in the end, follow the money.   

    • K-Dog February 23, 2020 at 3:08 pm #

      You only hear about them when they steal technology, or when they compromise Harvard researchers

      You should get out more. They have this thing called ‘One Belt, One Road’ and bribe money is part of the budget. The belt circles the globe and right now. Thes very fuckin minute, the rain forest in Brazil is being razed to grow soybeans for Chinese pork.

      Because, in the end, it’s all about money.

      Yes it was.

      Then it was no more.

      • volodya February 23, 2020 at 3:25 pm #

        That the Chines are bribing foreign officialdom is no shock. That’s how bizness is done. That ain’t the concern. It’s what they do in the USA. Who do they own?

    • BackRowHeckler February 23, 2020 at 3:25 pm #

      Well, we already know PM Xi has Gov Newsom by the short hairs out in Cal. Rumor has it there’s a direct line from Sacramento to Biejing: if Newsom has to take a leak, he needs Xi’s permission first.

      Chinese were backing LA Mayor Garcetti for pres, but the photos of 100,000 vagrants living in squalor near the Hollywood Walk of Fame threw a monkey wrench in the works. China wants their own man (or woman) in the White House, Kamala Harris, Newsom and Mayor Garcetti have proven to be losers. That’s ok Chinese are patient.

      Brh

  66. K-Dog February 23, 2020 at 2:52 pm #

    But I know I know. The machine is gearing up to call my suppression a personal problem. To which IDGAF.

    So I’m connected with this guy too. This will mean I won’t be able to see my website at O’Reilly Auto Parts or some such, but oh well.

    https://darkgreenmountainsurvivalresearchcentre.wordpress.com/2020/02/23/c5-announces-red-alert-corona-virus-covid-19-the-real-deal/

    • BackRowHeckler February 23, 2020 at 3:14 pm #

      Phew!!! Blue Oyster Cult

      ‘Don’t Fear the Reaper’, perfect song to accompany Coronavirus.

      Let’s all sing along.

      Ok, I heard yesterday from a close relative, an EMT member on medical helo flight crew, that corina virus is carrying HIV infection with it, and is suspected to have been created in a lab. And this is a pretty solid dude who is not known for going into crazy conspiracy theories.

      Brh

      • EvelynV February 23, 2020 at 7:08 pm #

        BRH

        You are having a bad week. “Do fear the Reaper” is what the song should be titled but don’t know of anyone who sang it. Barry Mcquire might be as close as you’ll get.

        • BackRowHeckler February 24, 2020 at 2:19 am #

          (Don’t Fear) The Reaper

          Blue Oyster Cult

          Group from LI Richard Meltzer put together in about 1969,

          That’s their most successful song, released in the late 70s.

  67. volodya February 23, 2020 at 3:30 pm #

    Here we go, DHS whistleblower found dead. Gunshot. Found roadside. Suicide they say.

    • JohnAZ February 23, 2020 at 4:46 pm #

      Just the start. The Deep State will go down swinging.

      Watch Barr for the attack on the swamp, not Trump. The DS is scared.

    • K-Dog February 23, 2020 at 4:56 pm #

      At the time of his wistle-blowing the word was out to get the American people to hate Islamic fundamentalism. That is what the Boston bombing was about and it did not work. Everyone knows we got played big on that one. Philip Haney did not get the memo about the big picture.

      Philip Haney discovered the deep state was allowing some false flag ammo in and he freaked out. If he killed himself it could be because he never got over his peek at the men behind the curtain and how the big boys really play. The wizard of OZ was a nice guy, but our deep state, not so nice. Think about meeting Agent Smith from the Matrix. That is what these guys are like.

  68. BackRowHeckler February 23, 2020 at 5:08 pm #

    Jeez, nobody on the board seems to be happy about Sanders big win in Nevada. I thought there’s be much rejoicing today, with some of you in a celebratory mood. You know who you are. Or maybe hatred of President Trump doesn’t necessarily translate into love for Bernie Sandals.

    • Cargill February 23, 2020 at 5:28 pm #

      Yes – I don’t think it translates.

      I find it almost impossible to believe that BOTH major parties cannot come up with anyone half-decent, half-competent, reasonably young, reasonably charismatic, and without awful baggage. I guess it proves the old adage that anyone who would make a really good president is smart enough not to want the job.

      I still don’t believe Sanders will be president, or even the candidate.

      • K-Dog February 23, 2020 at 5:48 pm #

        If I got right on it I could make a football pool that people could buy squares on. Then you could guess when drone droppers do him in. But I’m not laughing and there is good reason not to rejoice about the win. That people want him is not the issue.

        I just spent a half hour on my website putting Bernie videos in a sidebar list. I support him. I’m not putting up the list to get him through any of the primaries. Those are decided already. I’m putting the videos up with the hope that Bernie can make it through to the other side. If he makes it through I”ll fight for him.

        • Cargill February 24, 2020 at 2:45 am #

          If I got right on it I could make a football pool that people could buy squares on. Then you could guess when drone droppers do him in. But I’m not laughing and there is good reason not to rejoice about the win. That people want him is not the issue.

          Any chance you could translate this into English?

      • K-Dog February 23, 2020 at 5:51 pm #

        That people want him is not the issue. But this is American were the will of money, not people prevails.

        • EvelynV February 23, 2020 at 7:01 pm #

          So does that mean you are placing your chips on Bloomy?

      • EvelynV February 23, 2020 at 7:00 pm #

        Friends worry about Bernie’s age and electability. Age is not a hindrance to voting for him. He only needs to last a day once he displaces the grotesquerie for whom the corona virus perfectly fits with the zeitgeist pall his being has cast upon the intelligent half of the human race.

        No democrat will win without the millennials and other folks who support him so you might as well put your trust in the new alpha generation like it or not.

        Wisdom comes with age so don’t let one bad example of the opposite of that, ie. fat bastard, turn you away from the truth of it.

        • BackRowHeckler February 24, 2020 at 4:09 am #

          You need white women to win.

          In 2016 the majority of that demographic voted for Trump.

          The challenge is to get middle class white woman to vote against the interests of their sons and husbands. You’ll need to ramp up the hatred in a big way.

          Brh

    • malthuss February 23, 2020 at 7:00 pm #

      UNZ.COM

      More details emerge from the Riviera Beach funeral shooting. Arguing over funeral expenses outside the funeral home leads to a shootout which leave 2 dead, one shot.

      That was some mighty fine TNB going on in that article.
      Everyone here needs to read it in its entirety.
      Apparently, the guy had a 12k life insurance policy, Shanika, the one who got shot in the ass, was annoyed that the money was being spent on the funeral rather than more important things like weaves and sheeit.
      Another news article quoted an attendee “I’d hate to see what they would do if it was a million dollars.”

      https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/20200221/teen-arrested-in-fatal-shootings-outside-riviera-church

    • malthuss February 23, 2020 at 7:01 pm #

      WE DONT CARE

    • EvelynV February 23, 2020 at 7:04 pm #

      Do I count? It’s not over till it’s over and Biden hasn’t gone down for the count yet, sadly.

  69. Nightowl February 24, 2020 at 5:43 am #

    “Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report […] ”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2217286/Global-warming-stopped-16-years-ago-reveals-Met-Office-report-quietly-released–chart-prove-it.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top

    Science still not settled, I guess.

    • GreenAlba February 24, 2020 at 6:22 am #

      Haha. Even better than seeing Nightowl quote from his beloved ‘McMedia’ is seeing Nightowl quote from a discredited McMedia article from 2012.

      Recycling’s good in some ways, though, NN – keep going with the good recycling.

      What quoting this article in 2020 shows (since most of us who pay attention read it in 2012) is how much serious reading you’ve actually (not) done.

  70. stelmosfire February 24, 2020 at 8:38 am #

    Well that did not take long. The lawyers [leeches] are all over the Boy Scouts.

    • stelmosfire February 24, 2020 at 8:43 am #

      I was a boy scout. After they showed me how to make fire I was outta there and in the wind.Ba ha ha

  71. Majella February 24, 2020 at 2:41 pm #

    Hey Janos

    If you have a genuine interest in the goings-on in Aotearoa between Maori & Moriori, you can invest 15 minutes at this podcast to get the facts from a Moriori in 2020.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the-detail/story/2018735038/setting-aside-the-moriori-myth

  72. Iananna February 27, 2020 at 4:32 am #

    Would it be too fanciful to opine that the DNC is shitting itself that Sanders will snag the nomination, not because he might lose to Trump but because he might win?
    Imagine were he to implement a fraction of his policies & promises – the Establishment will drown itself in the swamp rather than live in such a society.

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